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Mtndew704
09-12-22, 03:28
Is it just me, or do you see a ton of disabled people everyday in MDE?

Blind people with canes. People missing arms and legs, tons of cleft palates or cleft noses, etc.

And this is everyday, in the states I see this like once in a blue moon.

What is the reason for this? Underdeveloped / expensive healthcare?I see them all the time in el centro, shits wild.

Juan Carter
09-12-22, 16:58
Actually Santa Anna was broke (again), NM's governor unilaterally declared parts of the Mesilla Valley to be part of the Yew Ess, and Stephen Douglas and William Walker were putting pressure on Mxico militarily. And this was only a few years after Guadalupe Hidalgo so the treaty was not 'negotiated. ' It was signed under duress. Just as was the Hay-Herran Treaty. After we offered Colombia either $25 or $75 million and they said no, we didn't negotiate. We just took it. See, for example:

Deeds, Susan M. (1996). "Gadsden Purchase". Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture. Vol. 3. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons. Pp. 12.

Ibarra, Ignacio (February 12,2004). "Land sale still thorn to Mexico: Historians say United States imperialism behind treaty". Arizona Daily Star.

Dude. Wilson backed Carranza against Villa and Zapata and sent troops in to Mxico (that is known as an invasion) to overthrow Huerta. The US Navy shelled Veracruz. Do you truly not know this stuff? He sent General Pershing and 12,000 troops after Villa (unsuccessfully).

https://veteranmuseum.net/research-united-states-interventions-in-mexico/#text=President%20 Woodrow%20 Wilson%20 was%20 reluctant, by%20 seizing%20 the%20 port%20 of.

One of the first things Wilson did after he was inaugurated was pressure him to resign, and imposed an arms embargo when he did not. Read Freidrich Katz's 'The Secret War in Mxico,' or Alan Knight's 'The US and the Mxican Peasantry,' to give two of the many examples of evidence. Or just read this wiki article:.I love the guys who understand our horrible history of right by might that spans from the Mexican War to this day. We landed in Veracruz.

Elvis 2008
09-12-22, 17:01
So from "rare" to "a lot less," keep moving the goal posts, you'll get there eventually. Wink I refer eveyone back to my post from today with the heading "Summary. " Brief inspections are worthwhile when checking into a new rental property, regardless of the rental rates, so says pest control specialists and entomologists. Thus your thesis folds and the discussion was worthwhile. Anything else from you is only noise attempting to save face after entering the discussion with arrogance while stepping on your dick.

Not to mention that bed bugs can be very tough to eradicate even with prompt treatment as a number of steps are carried through over a three to six week period. They are extremely resilient. Reports from guests may also be slow coming as many do not have severe reactions from bites, plus it typically takes from one to fourteen days for bites to appear so a connection to the hotel may not be made.

No you are living in a budget traveler area, on La 70, strata 3 neighborhood out of 6, where there are no "high end hotels. " You can't even afford a place in El Pablado or to set yourself up in a luxury apartment as you've been in that mid range hotel since the start of the pandemic. And you aren't "traveling the world. " You're stuck in that same hotel in a single developing country sitting by your fan at a Spartan desk arguing over the internet. It's sad that this is all the "luxury" and lifestyle that your completed work life can afford. Jajaja Thus my aim is laughing at pretenders. Monger communities are full of them.That is pretty revealing V, and you did not dispute a word of it. No wonder you brag about not getting ripped off with $3 cab fares or a $20 Rappi bill. That sounds like it is a lot of money for someone like you.

ChuchoLoco
09-12-22, 22:23
I love the guys who understand our horrible history of right by might that spans from the Mexican War to this day. We landed in Veracruz.Our "right" to interfere by might goes back even further and has been used in modern times and for sure will be again. The Monroe Doctrine. You guys are more knowledgeable than most. I have a Few Mexican buddies who know much less. We need to admit where we did wrong and not continue the same but that's not likely. The oil in Venezuela is just waiting to be seized up but we have too many other distractions at the moment. Don't forget the "sink the Maine" BS that got us in the Spanish-American War aka Cuban War for Independence. Bobby Kennedy wanted to do same thing and then invade Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crises. Only missiles that should be going off are the ones in our pants. Better for everyone. One last comment. Does anyone know the real reason Bush 1 invaded Panama?

Villainy
09-12-22, 23:59
That is pretty revealing V, and you did not dispute a word of it. No wonder you brag about not getting ripped off with $3 cab fares or a $20 Rappi bill. That sounds like it is a lot of money for someone like you.Reading has never been your strong point. See #4691 and #4694.

DontSayMuch
09-13-22, 03:30
Our "right" to interfere by might goes back even further and has been used in modern times and for sure will be again. The Monroe Doctrine. You guys are more knowledgeable than most. I have a Few Mexican buddies who know much less. We need to admit where we did wrong and not continue the same but that's not likely. The oil in Venezuela is just waiting to be seized up but we have too many other distractions at the moment. Don't forget the "sink the Maine" BS that got us in the Spanish-American War aka Cuban War for Independence. Bobby Kennedy wanted to do same thing and then invade Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crises. Only missiles that should be going off are the ones in our pants. Better for everyone. One last comment. Does anyone know the real reason Bush 1 invaded Panama?I think it's in response to the song "Panama" by Van Halen. Bush hated that song and only wanted to become president to invade Panama and then rid the world of Van Halen's single.

Paulie97
09-14-22, 07:17
The higher-priced properties are having the pests exterminated. That is why they have a lot less problems.You've just repeated the same overly generalized statement again without addressing the rebuttal. That's no wonder, as in debate the strongest points are always the ones that are ignored. The fact that pest control specialists and entomologists recommend room inspections for bed bugs, plus luggage in the bathroom or on metal luggage racks away from the wall, when checking into any new rental property regardless of the price tells us all we need to know. That's because extermination is often not performed at great efficiency even at high end properties. And this efficiency can vary a lot from property to property, even among the high end as was stated in the article you alluded to. Plus bed bugs are tough, and can hide away completely in walls or in fabric covered, cushioned chairs while evading poisons. Your solution was an inadequate one. Bottom line. Your only efforts to recover from that have been spelling police, mud slinging, and nursery rhyme insults. That's all you have because that's all there is.


Rare and "a lot less" are synonyms.I'm not going to split hairs with you on semantics other than to say that "a lot less" soft peddles "rare. " The former could mean 10% fewer occurrences per check ins, while the later gives the impression of very uncommon like a rare coin.


I guess if you tell the same lie enough times you start to believe it.The discussion started with a lie from you so guess you'd know. You're still hanging around. Wink.


"Laureles-Estadio is known as Comuna 11 and it has 15 barrios (neighborhoods). 99% of the homes in this comuna are classified as estrato 4 or 5 and only 1% of homes are classified as estrato 2 or 3. It has no homes classified as estrato 1 or estrato 6.Yea I put in a correction. It's a middle a class area, average rating 4. 6 with the spot you are at likely in the 4 range. There's nothing "high end" about La 70. It's a middle class party zone with run of the mill business traveler hotels.


Afford a place? I seriouisly considered buying a place in Poblado..Lolol How do you expect anyone to believe that you can afford to buy a place in El Poblado when you are camped out in a 3 star hotel on La 70? A middle class area for mid range Colombian business travelers? You already told us the name of it in the context of girl friendliness. Others have stayed there. It's around $40 a night booking online, and no doubt cheaper walking in. And much cheaper negotiating a monthly rate and during Covid. You can do all that plus girls on a modest Social Security check. We know BS when we see it. You enter a discussion on a Stupid Shit thread acting superior when you are clearly a loser and superior to no one here. Then to step on your dick the more, you offer a silly, easily debunked solution to stay in "high end" hotels that you aren't even following. ROFL.


But that's OK Paulie Wolly Doodle..With this you just embarrass yourself, while it tells us all we need to know. It's not even juvenile but much earlier and just weird coming from a 60+ year old camped out in a Latin American hotel. No wonder you have to pay the girls above the going rate.


I haven't really traveled the world. Just three trips, one to Asia and two to Europe. Great. Please link us to your trip reports to these cities. Wink. How many trips to Europe since you moved to La 70 Medellin and started living the life of luxury traveling the world?

P.S. Hotels in developing countries typically deserve a one star deduction. For example the Hotel Taormina in San Jose, Costa Rica is rated 4 star but is far from "high end. " And your $35 a night walk in price hotel is not "high end. " Nor is your neighborhood. Wow. Lololol.

Dropping the mike.

Crank up your fan. Pull up your Spartan plastic desk chair to your Spartan desk and write me another reply. Maybe I'll get around to reading it. Ya never know. Wink. That's even though you were cooked on the central point from the get go, and that hasn't changed nor will it.

Paulie97
09-14-22, 07:22
That is pretty revealing V, and you did not dispute a word of it. No wonder you brag about not getting ripped off with $3 cab fares or a $20 Rappi bill. That sounds like it is a lot of money for someone like you.30 or so dollar a night room, walk in rate, and a big bargain Covid monthly rate. He's making the most of his Social Security check living above the hooting and hollering of the La 70 bars. LOL.

Paulie97
09-14-22, 08:07
You still can't even spell El Poblado correctlyIn your last post you spelled seriously "seriously. " Typo perhaps, but nine times in ten people who play spelling police make mistakes of their own in the process. Plus it's the clearest indicator that someone has run out of arguments or never had any to begin with. You fit the latter category.


And if you think the wealthy only live in El Poblado..That was a general statement. Based on my research it's the only neighborhood in Medellin with anything like 75%+ strata 6 homes. But that's all beside the point anyway. Your $30 a night walk in rate, 500 or so monthly rate hotel room isn't "high end. " There's some high end rooms in El Poblado though, and surely even some luxury apartments near Estadio since you say you don't like to walk up hills, and with view, large balcony, jacuzzi, large living rooms, washer and dryer, all ideal for entertaining your "high end" Facebook hookers from Bello and Manrique but you are on a budget. What a crying shame to be so deprived after working hard all your life. No wonder you had to leave the US.

Paulie97
09-14-22, 16:17
Reading has never been your strong point. See #4691 and #4694.He was right. You didn't dispute anything in my post other than to assert that all "high end" properties the world over kill all the bugs before they are ever seen or cause a problem which is hogwash. That followed by your claim that you were about to buy a "high end" apartment in El Poblado but are too lazy to walk up hills so decided to stay camped out in your 3 star La 70 hotel. Aside from the nursey rhymes that's the Cliff's Notes version.

I doubt I have any more time to waste on you as you bring nothing new to the table, but still I'm expecting same day service as usual which means replies today. Thanks in advance. Wink.

ChuchoLoco
09-14-22, 17:36
I think it's in response to the song "Panama" by Van Halen. Bush hated that song and only wanted to become president to invade Panama and then rid the world of Van Halen's single.Good answer.

Villainy
09-14-22, 21:29
In your last post you spelled seriously "seriously. " Typo perhaps, but nine times in ten people who play spelling police make mistakes of their own in the process. Plus it's the clearest indicator that someone has run out of arguments or never had any to begin with. You fit the latter category.

That was a general statement. Based on my research it's the only neighborhood in Medellin with anything like 75%+ strata 6 homes. But that's all beside the point anyway. Your $30 a night walk in rate, 500 or so monthly rate hotel room isn't "high end. " There's some high end rooms in El Poblado though, and surely even some luxury apartments near Estadio since you say you don't like to walk up hills, and with view, large balcony, jacuzzi, large living rooms, washer and dryer, all ideal for entertaining your "high end" Facebook hookers from Bello and Manrique but you are on a budget. What a crying shame to be so deprived after working hard all your life. No wonder you had to leave the US.Your ignorance or dishonesty knows no bounds. But I think almost everyone here knows that.

You are claiming that you spelled El Poblado as "El Pablado" two times and it was a typo??

You do know that the "a" and "o" are on opposite sides of the keyboard? I don't mean to laugh at you too hard on that. I'm just surprised that someone who claims he visits Medellin as much as you claim, wouldn't be able to spell that barrio correctly. Maybe you were staying with that other "imaginary" visitor. Your buddy MDS??

The Hotel I'm staying at is rated as 4 star by: Hotels.com, Priceline, Kayak, Trip Advisor, Travelocity, Booking.com, Expedia and Agoda. Perhaps they forgot to consult you.

BUT much like another character without integrity on the board. You never let the truth get in the way of the story you want to tell. Or perhaps, you just aren't smart enough to look things up.

Tell us, Paulie Wolly Doodle, which is it??

As to my budget, PWD, indeed I am on a budget. But it's a pretty good one. How about your budget Paulie Wolly Doodle? Where do you stay when you "visit" Medellin?? Not the imaginary fantasy trips you dream about, but the real ones. Assuming you actually are able to save enough to visit. I have heard from sources that you stay in hostels and / or two story hotels. Surely Walmart is paying you more these days, so you can keep up with inflation.

Keep saving Paulie. Maybe we can read one of your real trip reports one of these days, when you can afford to visit.

JjBee62
09-14-22, 23:57
In your last post you spelled seriously "seriously. " Typo perhaps, but nine times in ten people who play spelling police make mistakes of their own in the process. Plus it's the clearest indicator that someone has run out of arguments or never had any to begin with. You fit the latter category.

That was a general statement. Based on my research it's the only neighborhood in Medellin with anything like 75%+ strata 6 homes. But that's all beside the point anyway. Your $30 a night walk in rate, 500 or so monthly rate hotel room isn't "high end. " There's some high end rooms in El Poblado though, and surely even some luxury apartments near Estadio since you say you don't like to walk up hills, and with view, large balcony, jacuzzi, large living rooms, washer and dryer, all ideal for entertaining your "high end" Facebook hookers from Bello and Manrique but you are on a budget. What a crying shame to be so deprived after working hard all your life. No wonder you had to leave the US.The estrato system isn't something applied to each home. It's a zoning set up for taxation and municipal services. There are no estrato 6 or estrato 1 homes, just estrato 6 and 1 areas. You should be able to find a map of Medellin which is marked off by estratos.

El Poblado is new growth with heavy foreign investment. If you're part of the local government and are deciding who to hit hardest with municipal taxation, who do you select? On one hand there's all the old, established, wealthy families living in Laureles. On the other are a bunch of foreigners and loud young newly wealthy folks.

The hotel in question, the best rate I've seen for it is $50 per night. I believe I paid $70 when I stayed there in the spring. It's a nice place, much nicer than what is available towards the south end of La 70. I doubt if he's spending less than $1000 per month. However, within walking distance there are several hotels where he could be spending $500 or less.

If he was really desperate to save money he could easily find an apartment for $300 or less and save more money by eating in.

I've had lunch with Villainy a few times. He orders Corona, instead of Pilsen. He eats at the more expensive restaurants, and not at the 6 k fried chicken place (which has some pretty good chicken). If your line of attack is through his finances, he's in a much better position than you are.

Elvis 2008
09-15-22, 01:59
30 or so dollar a night room, walk in rate, and a big bargain Covid monthly rate. He's making the most of his Social Security check living above the hooting and hollering of the La 70 bars. LOL.Paulie, I know we have had our difference but I have been straight about my experiences with women and where I have stayed when in Colombia. I have had go arounds with you and Mr. E and JJbee, but the truth is if I had information that would help you guys out I would. Even on the political forum, with all the name calling, (that is what you deal with for not having censorship), I do not take things personally. It is pretty fucked up that we have to talk on a hooker board based in the Netherlands and not be censored. Well, we used to not be censored.

Unlike anyone else, with Viliany though, I would like to take a wrench and smack him in the fucking head, and now I know I why. If anyone else came at me like he did, they would be getting points. Hell, I just got points in the political section being "argumentative". LOL. What is the point of that forum if not to argue?

Thing is I know when I am over the line and insulting someone, and agreeing with you did insult Viliany but I did not do that on the political forum, and it is the second time I have gotten points after insulting his sorry ass. I do not know if he is a mod or fucking a mod but something is up with that asshole. Half that prick's posts are him riding my ass.

What really pisses me off is this asshole does not want me posting because his sorry narcissistic ass cannot handle it because he thinks he deserves better. He hears about me with a 10 GF and a great place in Cartagena and thinks he is a loser and if that is the case, who are we to say otherwise?

The other hoot was Viliany, AKA Mr. Stock market, said he was not fighting the Fed. Well, guess who just handed his ass to him? Drum roll please. The Fed. I told this prick the Fed was doing all it could to get the market down. Powell came out and gave a speech that rattled the market, and the Dow was down 1,000 points. Hell, after his speech, a Fed governor said the market going down was a good thing. How much more clear can they be? If you want to be long the market, have at it but be logical not this bullshit that the Fed likes me. That is the narcissist with this guy. Fauci likes me. Biden likes me. They do not know who the fuck he is, but he thinks they do. Oh yeah, and bed bugs would never snap at his "rich" ass and neither would lice. LOL. I know rich people with kids have had hair lice. Jesus. What a piece of work.

Hey, V, my gal, the one my friends said was a boob job away from being a 10 is getting one, and she is better looking, better in bed, and nicer than anyone you have been with or will be with. My place in Cartagena has three bedrooms, and they all have 65+ inch TVs. There is a computer in every room, a play station in the main room, and I spent $5000 on the furniture. I stay in a better place one week a month than your sorry ass does who lives there. Oh, and I have a stunning view of the ocean. When I was in Medellin, I did not live in some flea bag hotel and then said I was close to Dann Carlton, the Marriott, and the Intercontinental, I stayed at all those hotels. And finally, I am back up 25% for the year while your sorry ass is down 15%.

So brag all you want about how Taxis and Rappis do not rip you off. I am so fucking jealous of that / sarc.

Fun Luvr
09-15-22, 05:49
It is pretty fucked up that we have to talk on a hooker board based in the Netherlands and not be censored. Well, we used to not be censored.I'm glad you added that second sentence. Seems to be selective censoring on this site, depending on topic and who is posting.

Elvis 2008
09-15-22, 21:05
The hotel in question, the best rate I've seen for it is $50 per night. I believe I paid $70 when I stayed there in the spring. It's a nice place, much nicer than what is available towards the south end of La 70. I doubt if he's spending less than $1000 per month. However, within walking distance there are several hotels where he could be spending $500 or less.

If he was really desperate to save money he could easily find an apartment for $300 or less and save more money by eating in.

I've had lunch with Villainy a few times. He orders Corona, instead of Pilsen. He eats at the more expensive restaurants, and not at the 6 k fried chicken place (which has some pretty good chicken). If your line of attack is through his finances, he's in a much better position than you are.Paulie's wealth has nothing to do with anything. Paulie was not bragging about being a man of such "great wealth" that he could not get lice or bed bugs.

Here is a guy bragging about not getting ripped off for a few bucks from cabs and Rappi yet he could get an apartment for $300 a month nicer than this flebag hotel. What is up with that?

Well, I know because I got an apartment and it was a $5000 deposit and thousands more to furnish it. So this man of "great wealth" does not have the money for furnishings and a deposit. He is every bit the pretender than that Paulie said he was.

V sounds like a guy with $25,000 in the bank getting a $2000 monthly pension but because he lives in Colombia, he has convinced himself how wealthy he is.

Paulie97
09-17-22, 19:58
Paulie's wealth has nothing to do with anything. Paulie was not bragging about being a man of such "great wealth" that he could not get lice or bed bugs.

Here is a guy bragging about not getting ripped off for a few bucks from cabs and Rappi yet he could get an apartment for $300 a month nicer than this flebag hotel. What is up with that?

Well, I know because I got an apartment and it was a $5000 deposit and thousands more to furnish it. So this man of "great wealth" does not have the money for furnishings and a deposit. He is every bit the pretender than that Paulie said he was.

V sounds like a guy with $25,000 in the bank getting a $2000 monthly pension but because he lives in Colombia, he has convinced himself how wealthy he is.Well said, plus paying a little extra for a Corona as opposed to good local beer doesn't prove much of anything.

I wouldn't call his hotel a "flea bag," but it is typical La 70 hotel fare. I stay in the area myself, every trip. When I checked Google the other day one booking site had it at 38 a night, another 39, another 43 and others were a bit higher. Walking in you can do much better, and for a Covid monthly rate? No telling how low it would go.

As to myself, I'm clear to everyone I meet that I'm of modest means with a pension and an online business that is also a hobby. A recent inheritance has improved my situation some. I have good genes with the vast majority in my recent family tree living to near or beyond age 90 so I'm waiting for the greatest benefit before taking Social Security.

At the end of the day, and to go back to where it started, the stewardess, who certainly isn't staying in dumps or hostels, was wise to keep her luggage in the bathroom. She probably does inspections also, all wise no matter what you pay for the rental property according to the specialists that know what they are talking about. The aim is to prevent bringing any of these creatures with you when you leave that can ultimately wreak havoc in your primary residence. It's worth a bit of extra effort, and those here discussing it were on the right track.

P.S. I'll add for the readers that the injection "lice" into the discussion was a false equivalence. They can only survive one to two days without a host. Bed bugs can last up to a year without any feeding whatsoever, and thus are the far greater threat in hotels.

Paulie97
09-18-22, 04:16
Oh yeah, and bed bugs would never snap at his "rich" ass and neither would lice. LOL. The quotation marks are most appropriate as he certainly isn't "rich. " Two years in Medellin and he's still in a midrange hotel, Covid monthly rate inviting in "high end" (wink) Facebook girls from Bello and Manrique. Someone with deep pockets would at least up their game to a luxury apartment but that hasn't been in the plans. Plus the truly rich will tend to be in places like the Mediterranean coast with varieties of different, better educated hookers of all shades and from all cultures. And this while enjoying better food and infrastructure, stunning scenery, and meals without a beggar pounding on the window or showing up at the table every ten minutes shouting Reggaeton into a microphone.

No your typical ISG member is looking for interesting locals and value in P4P with average income and V is no different, in spite of the pretensions.

Villainy
09-18-22, 15:25
Well said, plus paying a little extra for a Corona as opposed to good local beer doesn't prove much of anything....



Paulie, I know we have had our difference(s) but I have been straight.....Jajajaja.

A blooming bromance. Ain't love grand. Care to share what you got each other for "DIA de amor y amistad"?

Villainy
09-18-22, 15:58
Thing is I know when I am over the line and insulting someone, and agreeing with you did insult Viliany but I did not do that on the political forum, and it is the second time I have gotten points after insulting his sorry ass. I do not know if he is a mod or fucking a mod but something is up with that asshole. Half that prick's posts are him riding my ass. .Feeling persecuted Elvis? I certainly don't have a personal grudge against you. I don't even know you. I just feel compelled to correct you when you post completely unfounded drivel (not even dressed up as an opinion) or maybe you're just prevaricating. You can decide for yourself which it is on a case by case basis.


he hears about me with a 10 GF and a great place in Cartagena.

Hey, V, my gal, the one my friends said was a boob job away from being a 10 is getting one, and she is better looking, better in bed, and nicer than anyone you have been with or will be with.So, is she a 10 now? Or will she be a 10 after the boob job? You did mention in posts that she was a past her prime hooker you found on Seeking and that she was well into her 30's with a teenage daughter.

I'm not trying to insult you (jajaja well, maybe a little). Those were your words, weren't they?

You pay her expenses for a nice apartment (or so you say) and you're there, how often? Kind of makes one wonder what the 10, stale-dated hooker with the droopy boobs is doing when you're not there.

Mmmm. I'll try real hard not to be jealous jajajaja (that is sarcasm Elvi).

Villainy
09-18-22, 19:04
The quotation marks are most appropriate as he certainly isn't "rich. " Two years in Medellin and he's still in a midrange hotel, Covid monthly rate inviting in "high end" (wink) Facebook girls from Bello and Manrique. Someone with deep pockets would at least up their game to a luxury apartment but that hasn't been in the plans. Plus the truly rich will tend to be in places like the Mediterranean coast with varieties of different, better educated hookers of all shades and from all cultures. And this while enjoying better food and infrastructure, stunning scenery, and meals without a beggar pounding on the window or showing up at the table every ten minutes shouting Reggaeton into a microphone.

No your typical ISG member is looking for interesting locals and value in P4P with average income and V is no different, in spite of the pretensions.Paulie, sorry if I was ignoring your BS, but Elvis and his fantasy life are just too inviting to address.

I never said I was "rich" (which, of course, is a relative term) but if you are the comparison point, well, maybe "extremely wealthy" would be a more appropriate term of comparison. My "mid-range" hotel is a place where you can't afford to stay. I seem to remember you said as much before. But I do understand your plight.

As to the girls that I spend time with. How would you know? Yes, I've acknowledged that I do use FaceBook to find some girls, and I also use Instagram and other social media. I used to be on Seeking before I retired but I've decided it isn't worth it here in Colombia. Afterall the best girl on there is now with Elvis (or so says he) and I'm just not into mid-30's stale-dated hookers with droopy boobs with teenagers.

This is a non-BS point. If you are clean cut and not gross looking or overweight and you can carry at least a semblance of a conversation in Spanish there are a lot of young beautiful women who are thrilled to talk to you and dine with you (on your tab of course). They don't get invited to dine out very often and certainly not at nicer restaurants where they can dress up. We're not just talking El Poblado but also Parque Laureles is flush with high quality restaurants. Take a girl to dinner once and maybe she comes home with you, maybe not. But one thing for sure (at least in my experience) is that if you like her and invite her to dine out a second time. She isn't going to accept unless she is planning on going home with you. How does that compare to your existence in the US?

You really think I live here because "I have too?" I haven't started taking social security yet, because of the annual increment for deferring.

Don't worry Paulie Wolly, now that you have a bromance going with Elvis maybe he'll put you up in his apartment in Cartagena.

SoberHans69
09-30-22, 09:45
Anyone else had trouble with Uber not letting you use your cards to pay for journeys and only cash?

About a year ago when I was in Medellin, in the middle of my trip Uber wouldn't let me use my cards anymore, said something like 'this payment method is unavailable. ".

My banks were aware of where I was and I was only using Uber for myself and cards in my name. No payments have ever failed and I've only received 5 star ratings. I wasn't using Uber much so never messaged them about it.

Went to Brazil about 6 months ago and had the same trouble, tried to contact them about it but due to me not speaking Portuguese I couldn't.

I finally remembered to contact them in my country a few days ago and they came back and said ID broken their terms and conditions.

I emailed them back to say which rules and they replied with something about fraud. I replied saying I'm the only person to use my account with my cards and then replied with taking fraud seriously.

Emailed them back again and they said they wouldn't tell me what they think I've done wrong, won't tell me which terms I've broken and want reply to me again.

Stupid company, anyone else have similar issues?

Will just use their competitors in the future.

Knowledge
10-03-22, 15:03
That is a problem I have never had. I've used uber in 5 or 6 countries. Try registering different and multiple credit and debit cards.


Anyone else had trouble with Uber not letting you use your cards to pay for journeys and only cash?

About a year ago when I was in Medellin, in the middle of my trip Uber wouldn't let me use my cards anymore, said something like 'this payment method is unavailable. ".

My banks were aware of where I was and I was only using Uber for myself and cards in my name. No payments have ever failed and I've only received 5 star ratings. I wasn't using Uber much so never messaged them about it.

Went to Brazil about 6 months ago and had the same trouble, tried to contact them about it but due to me not speaking Portuguese I couldn't.

I finally remembered to contact them in my country a few days ago and they came back and said ID broken their terms and conditions..

Captain1234
10-07-22, 23:41
When a Paisa asks an American for money within the first 5 minutes, of the start of a facebook conversation. The girl is no better than a homeless person interrupting someone while they're eating to beg for money. It is not only rude and insulting, it is racist. Paisas do not treat Colombian men this way. When Paisas treat an American this way it shows that Paisas do not any respect for kind hearted Americans. A racist is someone who treats someone differently because of their skin color. Paisas are very quick to tell you that they're not like other people but they are all the same.

Captain1234
10-08-22, 00:10
I've traveled extensively around the world but exclusively in South America for the last 3 years. In the last 3 years I've gone through probably 15 phones. Yes I'm a drug addict *****monger that is not careful. But one thing that I've noticed is girls love to hack my phone. I have had them clone my phone and try to transfer money from my bank account, using PayPal and zoom account, I even had one girl still my wallet and write a $8,700 check, that was the exact amount that was in my checking account at the time but I was lucky that it did not go through because my brother had cash a check I left for him. I turn off all photos on WhatsApp because a girl can simply hack your phone by sending you a photo that is an executable file not an actual photo, on WhatsApp. I no longer let girls even touch my phones even whenever I'm using my phone to play music through my speaker. Do not trust these working girls with anything!

JjBee62
10-08-22, 07:34
I've traveled extensively around the world but exclusively in South America for the last 3 years. In the last 3 years I've gone through probably 15 phones. Yes I'm a drug addict *****monger that is not careful. But one thing that I've noticed is girls love to hack my phone. I have had them clone my phone and try to transfer money from my bank account, using PayPal and zoom account, I even had one girl still my wallet and write a $8,700 check, that was the exact amount that was in my checking account at the time but I was lucky that it did not go through because my brother had cash a check I left for him. I turn off all photos on WhatsApp because a girl can simply hack your phone by sending you a photo that is an executable file not an actual photo, on WhatsApp. I no longer let girls even touch my phones even whenever I'm using my phone to play music through my speaker. Do not trust these working girls with anything!It sounds like the girls aren't the problem.

1. There's nothing racist about it. If you want someone to give you money, why waste time asking people who have no money? A gringo is more likely to have money.

2. The Facebook issue is easy. Click. Block. Problem solved. Or you just don't respond. I got several messages 3 weeks ago that a girl's grandmother would die if I didn't send money. There hasn't been a funeral yet.

3. An executable file sent through Whatsapp won't execute unless you click on it. It's pretty obvious that it's not a photo or video. Don't click on shit if you don't know what it is.

4. Why bring a blank check to Colombia? Why let a girl use your phone? Why log into your banking app for her? How does a Colombian even cash a check drawn on a US bank?

5. How does someone get 15 phones stolen in 3 years and not figure out how to keep from getting his phone stolen?

Mr Enternational
10-08-22, 23:51
When a Paisa asks an American for money within the first 5 minutes, of the start of a facebook conversation.It is not only rude and insulting, it is racist. Paisas do not treat Colombian men this way. When Paisas treat an American this way it shows that Paisas do not any respect for kind hearted Americans. A racist is someone who treats someone differently because of their skin color.Of course they do not do Colombian men like that because Colombian men use more discretion with their money. It is nothing racist. They are just asking mfs that are known to give it. How many posters here have you seen talk about sending money and giving exorbitant tips? If I was them I would ask too!

Combo
10-09-22, 01:12
When a Paisa asks an American for money within the first 5 minutes, of the start of a facebook conversation. The girl is no better than a homeless person interrupting someone while they're eating to beg for money. It is not only rude and insulting, it is racist. Paisas do not treat Colombian men this way. When Paisas treat an American this way it shows that Paisas do not any respect for kind hearted Americans. A racist is someone who treats someone differently because of their skin color. Paisas are very quick to tell you that they're not like other people but they are all the same.Racist? It has nothing to do with race. The girls take advantage of foolish (or just plain stupid) foreigners, who could be black, white, Asian, Arab or whatever.

You're in a country where the typical person makes about $225 US Dollars a month. You're hanging out with hookers, who generally aren't the most upstanding people around. If you act like a big shot and don't pay attention to what you're doing, yes you're going to get robbed (or worse) and it doesn't matter what color your skin is.

Mtndew704
10-09-22, 01:29
When a Paisa asks an American for money within the first 5 minutes, of the start of a facebook conversation. The girl is no better than a homeless person interrupting someone while they're eating to beg for money. It is not only rude and insulting, it is racist. Paisas do not treat Colombian men this way. When Paisas treat an American this way it shows that Paisas do not any respect for kind hearted Americans. A racist is someone who treats someone differently because of their skin color. Paisas are very quick to tell you that they're not like other people but they are all the same.You hanging with the wrong paisas my friend.

DandyMan51
10-09-22, 03:45
Anyone else had trouble with Uber not letting you use your cards to pay for journeys and only cash?

About a year ago when I was in Medellin, in the middle of my trip Uber wouldn't let me use my cards anymore, said something like 'this payment method is unavailable. ".

My banks were aware of where I was and I was only using Uber for myself and cards in my name. No payments have ever failed and I've only received 5 star ratings. I wasn't using Uber much so never messaged them about it.

Went to Brazil about 6 months ago and had the same trouble, tried to contact them about it but due to me not speaking Portuguese I couldn't.

I finally remembered to contact them in my country a few days ago and they came back and said ID broken their terms and conditions.

I emailed them back to say which rules and they replied with something about fraud. I replied saying I'm the only person to use my account with my cards and then replied with taking fraud seriously.

Emailed them back again and they said they wouldn't tell me what they think I've done wrong, won't tell me which terms I've broken and want reply to me again.

Stupid company, anyone else have similar issues?

Will just use their competitors in the future.


That is a problem I have never had. I've used uber in 5 or 6 countries. Try registering different and multiple credit and debit cards.I have had similar issues before. For Uber specifically, I always pay through paypal or google pay. Since the payment is tokenized, the credit card company doesn't know anything beyond the vendor and the cost. Also put a travel notice on your cards if you haven't already.

Combo
10-09-22, 16:18
When a Paisa asks an American for money within the first 5 minutes, of the start of a facebook conversation. The girl is no better than a homeless person interrupting someone while they're eating to beg for money. It is not only rude and insulting, it is racist. Paisas do not treat Colombian men this way. When Paisas treat an American this way it shows that Paisas do not any respect for kind hearted Americans. A racist is someone who treats someone differently because of their skin color. Paisas are very quick to tell you that they're not like other people but they are all the same.Furthermore, what makes you kind-hearted? Certainly not playing the big shot with hookers in a relatively poor country. If you want to be kind, why not help out the everyday Colombian who works 50 hours a week for a miserable (by our standards) income?

If a girl on Facebook asks you for money within the first 5 minutes, ignore her. She only does it because she thinks there is a reasonable chance you're foolish enough to do it. Like the chicas in Gustos asking a foreigner for $200 USD. Why not ask? A certain % of guys will be stupid enough to agree to that amount (again close to a month's income for the typical Colombian).

Villainy
10-09-22, 16:58
If a girl on Facebook asks you for money within the first 5 minutes, ignore her. She only does it because she thinks there is a reasonable chance you're foolish enough to do it. Like the chicas in Gustos asking a foreigner for $200 USD. Why not ask? A certain % of guys will be stupid enough to agree to that amount (again close to a month's income for the typical Colombian).Right answer, maybe not the right reason. Consider this. A friend I know had a date with some FB girl and it went pretty well. About a week later she asked him for money becuase her dog got hit by a car and needed to go to the vet. A week later her grandmother had a stroke and she wanted to help with the hospital bill and medications. He obliged. I told him that he was making a big mistake. Sure enough the next week she was late on rent and was going to be evicted. He had this sad look on his face.

So I took over. I had him send 1 mil. Yes you're reading that right 1 frickin' mil to her bank account. (That's less than $0. 25 US). Why you ask? Because when you use the app to send money from bank to bank it lists the name of the account. Oddly enough it was a guy's name. (he never noticed it before).

He asked her to explain it and of course she said it was her cousin's account because hers was closed. I think he finally got the picture. His FB contact has a boyfriend who started harvesting her friends for money. Duh?? So if the girl needs money, you should be sympathetic and invite her over to earn it the old fashioned way: on her back. Or if you have lost interest, tell her to get lost.

Bill
10-10-22, 15:11
Making the mods police a good thread because of arguing internet pinheads.

Noone wants to read about your weak pissing matches.

No wonder the price of girls has gone up and the service down.

You got idiots comparing apples to pineapples because your lonely and it shows.

Get a room fkng homos. LOL.

JjBee62
10-10-22, 18:17
Making the mods police a good thread because of arguing internet pinheads.

Noone wants to read about your weak pissing matches.

No wonder the price of girls has gone up and the service down.

You got idiots comparing apples to pineapples because your lonely and it shows.

Get a room fkng homos. LOL.This looks like a good starting point.

There are many factors affecting price and service. None of them are in any way connected to arguments on ISG.

There have always been girls who provide poor service. Perhaps because too many guys don't care. They just want a place to stick their dick and don't give a shit about anything else.

Price increases come from many sources. Inflation has already been mentioned, which should be obvious to guys who have seen everything else get more expensive. It's crazy how a bunch of international travelers can pay more for airfare, parking, taxis, hotels, food, clothing and literally every single thing they pay for and then expect the price of pussy to constantly decrease (buying power decreases with inflation. A stagnant price is a price decrease). Maybe you can explain that one.

I was going to write more, but I need to go beat up the guy who paid $40 for a gallon of diesel fuel and drove up the price.

DramaFree11
10-11-22, 00:18
Making the mods police a good thread because of arguing internet pinheads.

Noone wants to read about your weak pissing matches.

No wonder the price of girls has gone up and the service down.

You got idiots comparing apples to pineapples because your lonely and it shows.

Get a room fkng homos. LOL.So true, great report. These guys are crazy on this page. Throw in Drugs, Violence and bad food MDE is paradise.

Elvis 2008
10-11-22, 03:37
So true, great report. These guys are crazy on this page. Throw in Drugs, Violence and bad food MDE is paradise.DF, when I was in Colombia with my gal, she pointed out to me all these supposed great restaurants in Colombia. After she listed a number of them, including Mexican restaurants, I finally asked, "Are they any good restaurants that server Colombian food or is that an oxymoron?" She got jokingly mad and has tried to show me good restaurants in Colombia. With one exception, she has failed.

Now when we go to Mexico, like the first thing I do is ask the cabbie if there are any Colombian restaurants in Mexico City, and the always say no, and she kicks me in the cab, but it is worth it.

But last time we go to Mexico City, we asked the cabbie and he said that there was a Colombian restaurant in Mexico City named Medellin (very original) and I was like I have to check out this place, and it was crowded which shocked me but I later learned why.

It was the first restaurant I had been to where there was a one to one latrine to customer ratio. It did not seem like people were happy eating their food. You know how you give your order, you pay them, and get your food. It was different here. At Medellin, you place your order, they give you food, and then they pay you.

I did not like the smell and look of the food so I asked the waiter about traveler's diarrhea and he said, "Oh do not worry about getting traveler's diarrhea (AKA Pablo Escobar's revenge), when you eat our food, you will get it for sure. ".

So when you are in Mexico City, I highly recommend going to Medellin if you have to atone for some previous sin. It is torture without the leather.

Bill
10-12-22, 21:04
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JustTK
10-13-22, 02:31
I propose a temporary trial format of community self-policing the Medellin thread.

A "dislike" button for useless posts and troublesome posters that are serial trolls with their argumentative style, misinformation, violation of forum rules and general waste of bandwidth.

An accumulation of X amount of dislikes for the offensive post and it disappears into a tird hole and the senior status of the chronic dufus member temporarily revoked.

Just a thought. Thanks for your time.Don't you see some issues here? -.

Who are you or I to say a post or member is a waste of bandwidth? Or misinformation?

And it takes 2 to argue, so who's side should we be on?

LoveItHere69
10-13-22, 23:49
Don't you see some issues here? -.

Who are you or I to say a post or member is a waste of bandwidth? Or misinformation?

And it takes 2 to argue, so who's side should we be on?Seriously you can not think of someone to ban for life? I sure can. MarquisdeSade1. Please feel free to argue his value here.

Nounce
10-14-22, 14:55
.... They are just asking mfs that are known to give it. How many posters here have you seen talk about sending money and giving exorbitant tips? If I was them I would ask too!Are you talking about me? LOL.


There was a young girl that just came out of period told me she didn't have money to buy food. I said take metro to me and I will buy food for her. She said she did not have Civica card. I said that was the only condition I could buy her food. She showed up because her mother gave her the taxi money. LOL. So I took her to have dinner and gave her some money to go home with, and she took taxi back.

That above is not even the observation I try to make. What happened after is she asked my wingman for money after she got money from me. I taught her a bad lesson. LOL.

My guess is the girls that take metro regularly are usually the girls with regular job. Many girls I know don't even have metro card so I guess it probably has nothing to do with P4 P.

Bill
10-14-22, 18:54
Don't you see some issues here? -.

Who are you or I to say a post or member is a waste of bandwidth? Or misinformation?

And it takes 2 to argue, so who's side should we be on?Think about it for a while and the answers will come to you.

On a different note something stupid about Medellin could be the way some mongers are used to bad service at home so they expect it from girls in Medellin.

Like getting shorted on time, paying first, tipping, gifts, and over paying the going rate because they can.

This is often found with girls from Venezuela. Local paisa Medellin girls used to be more honest, not clock watchers, service oriented and laid back and accepted the locals rate by foreigners, but have recently been trained by the aforementioned hobby ruiners to gouge gringos.

JjBee62
10-15-22, 17:32
Seriously you can not think of someone to ban for life? I sure can. MarquisdeSade1. Please feel free to argue his value here.I can think of plenty. Everyone who posts here has value, even if they're just a good example of what not to post. Once you start banning people for being disagreeable you end up on a slippery slope.

Although they screw it up sometimes, the admins do a decent job of wracking peepees and keeping the shit from getting too deep.

JustTK
10-16-22, 02:14
Seriously you can not think of someone to ban for life? I sure can. MarquisdeSade1. Please feel free to argue his value here.Thats not fair on MDS. I agreed w smthg he wrote about 3 weeks ago. I was quite surprised, but it did happen, I know bcos I didn't take the vax so my mind is still intact. Hehe.

There are a few people here I don't like. But I woulndt say its fair to ban them even though some of them seem to do very little apart from argue and try to ridicule people. But I think they have as much right to be here as anyone else. They seem to get on w each other, so its clear that my view is not unanimous.

Mtndew704
10-20-22, 21:57
Think about it for a while and the answers will come to you.

On a different note something stupid about Medellin could be the way some mongers are used to bad service at home so they expect it from girls in Medellin.

Like getting shorted on time, paying first, tipping, gifts, and over paying the going rate because they can.

This is often found with girls from Venezuela. Local paisa Medellin girls used to be more honest, not clock watchers, service oriented and laid back and accepted the locals rate by foreigners, but have recently been trained by the aforementioned hobby ruiners to gouge gringos.I was just in Medellin in September hanging around the El Centro area and all seemed normal to me. Regardless if the chica was Colombian or Venezuelan. As far as rates they seem to actually be slightly cheaper because of the high exchange going on unless my math is way off.

MiamiSammy
10-24-22, 20:41
I am glad that you had a good time. However, President Uribe apparently does not share your opinions:

You can find many articles similar to this in English in http://colombiareports.com/.

We have some very serious problems these days in Medelln.Uribe is a politician, and a conservative one at that. Nothing brings out the base like a law and order campaign. They do the same in the US and all over the world. Right now the right has a hard on for Chicago and Philadelphia.

MiamiSammy
10-24-22, 20:43
This may all be true, but the impression I got from reading this thread, was that they were killing gringos, and girls servicing Gringos. However, I was talkng to some people from Colombia, and I was discussing the heavy security at the airport coming back, which actually made me feel more comfortable that The plane wasn't going to be blown up or flown into a building somewhere, had to do with the article you shared.Try reading the nature of Colombia Reports. They're aligned with the far right and consistently side with the Administration. Good journalism doesn't take sides.

Zeos1
10-24-22, 23:08
Try reading the nature of Colombia Reports. They're aligned with the far right and consistently side with the Administration. Good journalism doesn't take sides.10 year old thread. Uribe is not in power, although may be influencing things in the opposition.

Knowledge
10-26-22, 17:49
I think your math is spot on. You would have to be paying 20% to 25% more than you used to pay to begin to have a higher cost in euros or dollars. Clock watchers can be annoying but at these prices I don't see that it much matters since it's quick and easy to just grab another girl.


I was just in Medellin in September hanging around the El Centro area and all seemed normal to me. Regardless if the chica was Colombian or Venezuelan. As far as rates they seem to actually be slightly cheaper because of the high exchange going on unless my math is way off.

Gabacho
11-03-22, 09:57
I think you missed the whole thing as far as strip clubs. The girls that go up to dance are paid by the 2 mil tips that everyone gives them. That is how it works. Your cover charge has nothing to do with it, what the club gives them to dance is probably 0, they are paid by the patrons that give them those tips. So by gettting bent out of shape about it you basically just insult everyone in the place. But that is just because you are looking at it from a totally different angle. That of a foreigner who has no idea of how these clubs work. When you go in make sure you have a stack of 2 mil bills, if you run out get the waiter guys to bring you change, and give them a 2 mil for their effort. Everything will then be cool and you can enjoy yourself. 2 mil is about 50 cents, that's what you pay to watch a girl dance on the stage. Of course you can refuse, and I doubt anything really bad would happen, but it is just not cool.All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.

JjBee62
11-03-22, 19:31
All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.Really? What's stupid is the "anyone who doesn't do everything my way is stupid" mentality. Considering that almost everything you post is a complaint, your way doesn't seem too appealing. Why choose a path that leaves one constantly pissed off at the world?

Strip clubs are an option. For some they are a good option. For others they aren't. Paying $4-$5 for a beer isn't going to break the bank. Paying $0. 40 for a naked woman to dance on your crotch for 2 minutes probably isn't going to wipe out your mongering budget. You can easily spend 2 hours in Barre Ejecutiva, drink 2 beers, feel up 20 women, fuck 1 woman and spend less than $40. Rather then be miserable and complaining on my vacation, I'll happily drop a whopping $40 for an evening's entertainment that includes beer and sex.

And 30 k for sex in El Centro doesn't include the cost of the room. Stop spreading false information.

MarquisdeSade1
11-03-22, 20:07
Seriously you can not think of someone to ban for life? I sure can. MarquisdeSade1. Please feel free to argue his value here.Just when I thought I had escaped this online psych ward, I read this jajajaa.

Huge Congrats yes, you are one of the head whackjobs around here that add nothing but drama and toxicity.

Case in point arent you that psycho the Tall Man wrote, was stalking him around in el centro hiding in bushes etc?

Lets us guess you are a clone of that Danny Devito character in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest (he described you as a short and weird little creature).

And arent you also the one that was sooper "wounded" when I couldn't stop LMAO.

Because you wrote pinay putas "walk on water" wasnt that you? ROTFLMMFAO.

Arent you also the one that writes how much he hates everything about Colombia and MDE?

Why the fuck are you still in this thread? Do they provide free wifi in state psych wards in the USA?

JustTK
11-03-22, 20:20
Maybe they're stupid and a waste for you, but you're not everybody. Maybe some guys don't mind tipping 25 cents or 50 cents to sip on a beer and watch dances..

Nothing stupid and wasteful about it, if that's what one wants to do and enjoys it.One doesn't have to tip either. Girls will still dance even if you don't tip. Many of the Colombians don't tip, and its not a foreigner tax. .

I see it though, rather like tipping a waiter / waitress in a restaurant. Maybe Gabacho thinks we should not use restaurants either?

Gabacho
11-05-22, 18:51
Maybe Gabacho thinks we should not use restaurants either?Dude don't be an idiot, there is a difference between paying for something of value such as food in a restaurant and throwing money away for free such as tipping girls in a strip club. All I'm pointing out is that the money can be better spent elsewhere.

If you and the others who attacked me here enjoy. Throwing your money around in order to look like big ballers or weekend warriors to impress your friends or to impress strippers in a club then that's your choice. The same girls can be had in Centro or in Santa Fe or in Cúcuta for a fraction of the price. And no I'm not complaining I'm simply pointing out that you guys are waiting money, but I get it you guys don't live here, you come down for a. Week and blow a bunch of money and you go home broke to the US feeling some sense of fulfillment. If that's what floats your boat then carry on.

LoveItHere69
11-05-22, 21:51
I hate restaurants that the waitresses pool their tips to together and divide amongst them. Why should the stellar waitress continually give her higher income to the waitress that makes the least amount because the low tip earner has a bad attitude, screws up orders, poor hygiene, etc? This actually punishes the great waitresses who work harder.

I hate going to these type of stripper joints because the girls keep interrupting me when I am chatting to my friend or another girl. If the owner knows you guys will tip ANY girl he will thus hire ANY girl to fill the position rather than the hot girl he should hire. Next the owner will hire some guy to dance. Why? Why not? You idiots give tips to everyone.

The point is not the money it is whether it was earned or not. Strippers should be pretty, not pretty ugly. If they were pretty then all the guys would be paying close attention to stage, thus tipping more, staying longer, and drinking more.

JjBee62
11-06-22, 07:25
I hate restaurants that the waitresses pool their tips to together and divide amongst them. Why should the stellar waitress continually give her higher income to the waitress that makes the least amount because the low tip earner has a bad attitude, screws up orders, poor hygiene, etc? This actually punishes the great waitresses who work harder.

I hate going to these type of stripper joints because the girls keep interrupting me when I am chatting to my friend or another girl. If the owner knows you guys will tip ANY girl he will thus hire ANY girl to fill the position rather than the hot girl he should hire. Next the owner will hire some guy to dance. Why? Why not? You idiots give tips to everyone.

The point is not the money it is whether it was earned or not. Strippers should be pretty, not pretty ugly. If they were pretty then all the guys would be paying close attention to stage, thus tipping more, staying longer, and drinking more.Ah yes! The magical, mythical strip club where all the strippers are gorgeous and have great attitudes. Instead of bouncers they have leprechauns riding unicorns and giving gold to random customers.

Strip clubs, in most places, don't hire girls. They are considered independent contractors. All the management does is approve them to work there. If they only allowed pretty girls to work there they would quickly be out of business. Of course that's without considering that the management might have a different opinion of pretty than you do.

What every club needs is a mix. You need all types. You need plain girls who are great dancers. You need the older women who are great listeners. You need women with personality, along with a few beauties. Otherwise you end up with a club with very few dancers because of jealousy and attitudes and very few customers.

Most guys go to a strip club to have fun, although it seems ISG has a bunch of guys who go to strip clubs to complain. That means girls who can entertain, rather than just girls who stare at their phones and look pretty.

DonCarlos1234
11-06-22, 09:12
All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.Locals: I am a local in Las Vegas. I used to waste $ in strip clubs like most of the tourists do. Since I live here I see no reason to visit them like I used to. LOL.

Tourists: I deal with tourists quite often. I see them do amazingly "stupid" things spending thousands of dollars. LOL but Las Vegas survives on tourism. (So does La Isla) FYI In 2022 the "Medellin tourism bureau estimated the expenditure of tourists at 26 million dollars. - with 39% of all travelers coming from America". I used to be a tourist.

Regulars: Some people visit more often and they learn (or choose) which establishments are the best value for them. Often they enlist the locals to show them around and give them advice. (I do a lot of that, I am in the tourism business) Business everywhere would rather have regular customers. They are going to visit more often and spend more in the long run. That's what I do.

You may be a local with the fortune to have friends working at La Isla. Terrific. But La Isla would rather have people spend $. Tourists & Regulars. So would most businesses in Medellin. I am sorry if you were insulted by what people spend for their entertainment and the assumption I made that no money means "no honey" most of the time on the planet. It seems like entitlement and also impolite to hang out and not tip anyone.

So La Isla charges a cover and now things are changing. It will not affect the tourists or the regulars. Hopefully it brings in top talent for the clubs patrons. (& ME .

Huacho
11-06-22, 13:40
impolite to hang out and not tip anyone.I guess every single Australian, New Zealander, and Japanese must be impolite then. Tipping is out of control. And especially don't take tipping advice from somebody who lives in Las Vegas, for god's sakes.

RamDavidson84
11-06-22, 14:35
Dude don't be an idiot, there is a difference between paying for something of value such as food in a restaurant and throwing money away for free such as tipping girls in a strip club. All I'm pointing out is that the money can be better spent elsewhere.

If you and the others who attacked me here enjoy. Throwing your money around in order to look like big ballers or weekend warriors to impress your friends or to impress strippers in a club then that's your choice. The same girls can be had in Centro or in Santa Fe or in Ccuta for a fraction of the price. And no I'm not complaining I'm simply pointing out that you guys are waiting money, but I get it you guys don't live here, you come down for a. Week and blow a bunch of money and you go home broke to the US feeling some sense of fulfillment. If that's what floats your boat then carry on.Tip the girls a 2 mil note when they come up to you. Yes, you end of spending a whole 5 dollars throughout the course of an entire night, but it's the right thing to do. People burn in hell for not tipping, they end up in the same level of hell as the working girls who don't finish guys haha. Tip your strippers boys.

P.S. I am not saying ball out and throw wads of cash around, I am just saying throw the girl a 2 mil note and make her feel good when they come dance on you.

Villainy
11-06-22, 15:24
Tip the girls a 2 mil note when they come up to you. Yes, you end of spending a whole 5 dollars throughout the course of an entire night, but it's the right thing to do. People burn in hell for not tipping, they end up in the same level of hell as the working girls who don't finish guys haha. Tip your strippers boys.

P.S. I am not saying ball out and throw wads of cash around, I am just saying throw the girl a 2 mil note and make her feel good when they come dance on you.How crass can someone be? A girl is taking her clothes off for your viewing pleasure. I'm sure that was her dream as a little girl: to grow up and take her clothes off in front of a bunch of.

Fat, loud foreigners and some local men too. The truth is she isn't there because it is her dream, she is there to earn enough to feed her hungry children or mother or whatever. All you have to do is suck it up and give her a 2 mil note with is now worth about $0. 40.

If that clown really thinks that is giving money away for free. He shouldn't be in a strip club. I have to wonder if he goes around and trys to eat out of the garbage cans? Afterall, giving the restaurant or food vender money for food that he can find discarded in the closest garbage cans is the same as giving money away for nothing. Or perhaps, he should go back home and pull bottles out of the garbage there for the recycling deposit. A couple of good days retrieving empty beer bottles and he might be able to afford tipping a few of the girls.

NeilGeorge
11-06-22, 15:41
Strip clubs, in most places, don't hire girls. They are considered independent contractors. All the management does is approve them to work there. If they only allowed pretty girls to work there they would quickly be out of business. Of course that's without considering that the management might have a different opinion of pretty than you do.

What every club needs is a mix. You need all types. You need plain girls who are great dancers. You need the older women who are great listeners. You need women with personality, along with a few beauties. Otherwise you end up with a club with very few dancers because of jealousy and attitudes and very few customers.

Most guys go to a strip club to have fun, although it seems ISG has a bunch of guys who go to strip clubs to complain. That means girls who can entertain, rather than just girls who stare at their phones and look pretty.Went there and 10-12 girls. They give you a note pad to write down the names of girls you would like to screw. Then you pick one of the independent contractors and they all try to charge you extra fees for services you though were included: kissing, DATY, BBBJ, etc. Would be better if they all were all inclusive and not independent hustlers.

JjBee62
11-06-22, 18:03
Went there and 10-12 girls. They give you a note pad to write down the names of girls you would like to screw. Then you pick one of the independent contractors and they all try to charge you extra fees for services you though were included: kissing, DATY, BBBJ, etc. Would be better if they all were all inclusive and not independent hustlers.Would it be? From what I've seen and what I know, when everyone is providing the same service, for the same price, the service settles in the mediocre level. There's no point in providing better service if you get paid the same for crappy service.

Unless you're talking slavery, the girls all choose to work there and they choose what level of service they will provide. Some see it as a chance to make more money. Some see it as a way to discourage things they don't want to do.

JjBee62
11-06-22, 18:12
I guess every single Australian, New Zealander, and Japanese must be impolite then. Tipping is out of control. And especially don't take tipping advice from somebody who lives in Las Vegas, for god's sakes.If they all go to places where the employees or contractors are paid by tips and they don't tip, yes, they're impolite.

Interesting thing about people who live in Las Vegas. They don't usually spend money at the same level as tourists visiting Las Vegas. The ones who don't learn control end up homeless. They understand that there's nothing wrong with tipping, without needing to throw money around.

RamDavidson84
11-07-22, 03:40
I guess every single Australian, New Zealander, and Japanese must be impolite then. Tipping is out of control. And especially don't take tipping advice from somebody who lives in Las Vegas, for god's sakes.I could be wrong, but I always thought countries that don't expect a tip to the server factor that into the cost of the meal and pay the server more per hour. As an American, I can say with certainty that if you don't tip, you are an asshole, plain and simple. Obviously if someone's not American they have their own customs so they get a pass.

A very good friend of mine's mother put her self through nursing school while living in section 8 housing with her 3 kids and collecting welfare and working a side job as a waitress for extra cash. She made it very clear to us as kids, Hell is reserved for dudes who don't tip correctly. Chivalry is not totally dead if a scumbag like me still enjoys tipping a little bit LOL.

Huacho
11-07-22, 05:14
I could be wrong, but I always thought countries that don't expect a tip to the server factor that into the cost of the meal and pay the server more per hour. As an American, I can say with certainty that if you don't tip, you are an asshole, plain and simple. Obviously if someone's not American they have their own customs so they get a pass.As to your first sentence, you are not wrong. So, in countries that make their employees rely on tips, you need to tip. That doesn't make it good or right or sane. It just means some greedy business is convincing its customers to pay its employees. Countries like Australia realize how demeaning that is. As far as to your second sentence, you are mostly right. But let's look at Washington state. Servers there get the minimum wage, which is among the highest in the country. And serving is pretty much an entry level job in the Yew Ess, not a profession such as in Italy, Spain, France, etc. And it is no coincidence that tipping is not prevalent there. So in WA all I might do is round say $23.80 to $25 and I don't this 'Hi, my name is Mindy and I will be taking care of you tonight' bullshit.

Yet, despite the fact that WA does not have a 'sub minimum wage' of 40% or 60% of minimum as they do in say CO, and despite the fact that Seattle city has an even higher minimum wage, the servers there still expect tips and shame non-tippers. Why? Because tipping is out of control in the Yew Ess. It is a cultural phenomenon that is metastasizing into arenas where it was not previously expected. Why did the advice to tip in restaurants go from 15% in my youth to 20% now? And please don't say inflation.

Let me give a recent example. Last week I was in Chile with a friend and we took a day tour. 15 people on the tour, 13 chilenos, my woman friend from the Yew Ess, and me. So as the trip grew near its conclusion, she asked me about tipping. I said that we would be getting dropped off almost last and that she, closer to the exit door, should watch to see what the locals did. What they did was thank the driver for a nice trip and shake his hand. 11 chilenos, 11 hand shakes, zero tips. So we got off the bus when only two chilenos remained. I gave the driver / guide a fist bump and complimented him on his driving. My friend shook his hand awkwardly because she was slipping him a tip. It embarrassed him.

Look, if you want to run a business and have employees, then why don't you pay them? It is insulting to me that you think I, as a customer, should be paying your employees, and it should be disgraceful to you. And yeah duh I understand restaurants and etc. Would have to raise their prices by a fair amount. So do that, and we would have an Australian type of model, and it would be way way better.

JjBee62
11-08-22, 02:01
To where it belongs.


You're not wrong. I'd actually go one step farther and say that I've outgrown this hobby altogether. I started banging hookers partly because I was put off by the entitlement of regular women. What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.The only entitled one here is you. As I've already repeated too many times, strippers asking for tips in strip clubs is normal behavior. If you don't tip them they don't have you thrown out and they don't get pissed off and start spouting irrational bullshit. They move on to the next customer. Where in that is the entitlement?

The entitlement is located somewhere between your belt line and your anus, which is where you seem to keep your brain. The entitlement is getting pissed off when a naked woman takes 1 second of your time asking for a miniscule amount of money. The entitlement is stomping out of the club pissed off when another girl does the perfectly normal thing the first girl did. The entitlement is ranting about the club paying girls so you don't have 2 seconds of your precious time wasted every 5 minutes by a naked woman hoping for a measly 2 k. The entitlement is calling a woman a perra because she's not at your door when you expected her.

Let's dig into that last one.

It was almost midnight when you set a 1 am appointment with the girl and you wanted her at your door at 1 am. Did you ever try to find a taxi at midnight in an estrato 1 or 2 neighborhood? Not a lot of taxis are sitting up there waiting around for non-existent customers. She probably knows a few taxi drivers and probably messaged them. To further speculate, when she messaged back for the address, she had most likely finally found one and was ready able to head to you.

If you had ever bothered to read the forum or pay attention to advice you would have checked back with the girl to make sure she was on her way. It's unreasonable to expect you to consider how difficult it might be for her to get a taxi at that time of night. Very few guys here think about that. However, reading the forum would have uncovered the advice to hedge your bets. If you want her there at 1 am, tell her 12:30. Greatly reduces your waiting around time.

Frankly, expecting a girl who is at least 25 minutes away to get ready, arrange transportation, arrange for someone to watch her kids and to be at your door in less than 2 hours is entitlement, especially so late at night. If the girl isn't somewhere working then she's in her pajamas with no makeup, watching TV from her bed at 11 pm. If she lives with her mother (likely) and has kids (also likely), she's got to wake her mother and tell her she's leaving, probably shower, put on makeup, brush out her hair and get dressed before trying to find transportation. If she can't find transportation (again, likely), she's stuck waiting.

How great the world would be if young, Colombian hookers would just send us a message explaining the problem, but they don't. So we're left waiting, and getting pissed. Of course with most of the guys here, if the girls did explain the situation they'd still get pissed.

There are almost certainly entitled hookers in Colombia, if you fiddle around with the definition of entitlement. Mostly, the ones you think are entitled are just like all of us. They've decided to only accept offers which meet their standards.

Back to your entitlement. You bitched about the ventilation in your Airbnb and demanded a different place. You didn't bother to consider that what you were so upset about is a standard feature throughout Medellin. You complain about the noise without considering that you're in a city of more than 4 million, with one of the highest population densities in the western hemisphere. There's going to be noise.

With most people I'd bend over backwards trying to salvage their trip, but any effort would be wasted on you. So go ahead with your ranting and crying and then get your entitled ass back where someone can change your diaper and pick up your pacifier when you drop it.

RamDavidson84
11-08-22, 05:52
As to your first sentence, you are not wrong. So, in countries that make their employees rely on tips, you need to tip. That doesn't make it good or right or sane. It just means some greedy business is convincing its customers to pay its employees. Countries like Australia realize how demeaning that is. As far as to your second sentence, you are mostly right. But let's look at Washington state. Servers there get the minimum wage, which is among the highest in the country. And serving is pretty much an entry level job in the Yew Ess, not a profession such as in Italy, Spain, France, etc. And it is no coincidence that tipping is not prevalent there. So in WA all I might do is round say $23.80 to $25 and I don't this 'Hi, my name is Mindy and I will be taking care of you tonight' bullshit.

Yet, despite the fact that WA does not have a 'sub minimum wage' of 40% or 60% of minimum as they do in say CO, and despite the fact that Seattle city has an even higher minimum wage, the servers there still expect tips and shame non-tippers. Why? Because tipping is out of control in the Yew Ess. It is a cultural phenomenon that is metastasizing into arenas where it was not previously expected. Why did the advice to tip in restaurants go from 15% in my youth to 20% now? And please don't say inflation.

Let me give a recent example. Last week I was in Chile with a friend and we took a day tour. 15 people on the tour, 13 chilenos, my woman friend from the Yew Ess, and me. So as the trip grew near its conclusion, she asked me about tipping. I said that we would be getting dropped off almost last and that she, closer to the exit door, should watch to see what the locals did. What they did was thank the driver for a nice trip and shake his hand. 11 chilenos, 11 hand shakes, zero tips. So we got off the bus when only two chilenos remained. I gave the driver / guide a fist bump and complimented him on his driving. My friend shook his hand awkwardly because she was slipping him a tip. It embarrassed him.

Look, if you want to run a business and have employees, then why don't you pay them? It is insulting to me that you think I, as a customer, should be paying your employees, and it should be disgraceful to you. And yeah duh I understand restaurants and etc. Would have to raise their prices by a fair amount. So do that, and we would have an Australian type of model, and it would be way way better.I must admit, I am clearly biased as an American, so take that into consideration as you read this. Here are some answers to the questions you asked. I am going to assume you have never run a business of your own. It is a lot easier to run a business when you only have to pay your workers minimum wage as compared to what ever wage you would have to compensate them if tipping was not customary. This allows more individuals to take a chance at being an entrepreneur and contributing to the private sector which is the back bone of the modern western economy. Here is an intangible benefit to think about as well. Self-reliance is a strong American ideal which not only contributes to a strong economy, but also gives a business owner a strong sense of self worth. Individuals who take ownership of their work usually out perform a salaried employee.

I am also going to assume you are not American, because I have never met an American who has been offended by the custom of tipping. Tipping allows the customer more freedom in his / her economic decision as to the amount they are going to compensate their service provider. If you are not a wealthy individual or the service was not particularly good, you can tip the minimum. If you enjoyed the service of the service provider and you have the funds to show your appreciation, you can tip more. The decision is yours to make. When I worked service jobs where a tip was involved, I can tell you from experience, I loved receiving big tips. It gave me a great sense of self worth and I really enjoyed the overall experience. It conditioned me to always provide good service. It also allows me now to really enjoy tipping others when appropriate as I know my show of gratitude will truly be appreciated. On the other end of that, yes it does suck to have to tip the minimum when you get an asshole who provides inadequate service.

I have heard from others that Americans are too quick to tip when not appropriate in foreign nations. I can recall one time gambling at a casino in Santo Domingo. I was tipping the roulette dealer every time I won. I was quickly given the death look from the others players at the table. I instantly understood that the Dominicans didn't want the dealers to start expecting a tip every time a player won. For the rest of my time in the casino, I was known as New Jersey by the other players LOL. Still had a great time.

Frisky Frank
11-08-22, 12:25
I loved reading this. This guy SUCKS and his complaining was annoying as hell. It's unfortunate he'll never realize he's the problem.


To where it belongs.

The only entitled one here is you. As I've already repeated too many times, strippers asking for tips in strip clubs is normal behavior. If you don't tip them they don't have you thrown out and they don't get pissed off and start spouting irrational bullshit. They move on to the next customer. Where in that is the entitlement?

The entitlement is located somewhere between your belt line and your anus, which is where you seem to keep your brain. The entitlement is getting pissed off when a naked woman takes 1 second of your time asking for a miniscule amount of money. The entitlement is stomping out of the club pissed off when another girl does the perfectly normal thing the first girl did. The entitlement is ranting about the club paying girls so you don't have 2 seconds of your precious time wasted every 5 minutes by a naked woman hoping for a measly 2 k. The entitlement is calling a woman a perra because she's not at your door when you expected her.

Let's dig into that last one.

It was almost midnight when you set a 1 am appointment with the girl and you wanted her at your door at 1 am. Did you ever try to find a taxi at midnight in an estrato 1 or 2 neighborhood? Not a lot of taxis are sitting up there waiting around for non-existent customers. She probably knows a few taxi drivers and probably messaged them. To further speculate, when she messaged back for the address, she had most likely finally found one and was ready able to head to you.

If you had ever bothered to read the forum or pay attention to advice you would have checked back with the girl to make sure she was on her way. It's unreasonable to expect you to consider how difficult it might be for her to get a taxi at that time of night. Very few guys here think about that. However, reading the forum would have uncovered the advice to hedge your bets. If you want her there at 1 am, tell her 12:30. Greatly reduces your waiting around time.

Frankly, expecting a girl who is at least 25 minutes away to get ready, arrange transportation, arrange for someone to watch her kids and to be at your door in less than 2 hours is entitlement, especially so late at night. If the girl isn't somewhere working then she's in her pajamas with no makeup, watching TV from her bed at 11 pm. If she lives with her mother (likely) and has kids (also likely), she's got to wake her mother and tell her she's leaving, probably shower, put on makeup, brush out her hair and get dressed before trying to find transportation. If she can't find transportation (again, likely), she's stuck waiting.

How great the world would be if young, Colombian hookers would just send us a message explaining the problem, but they don't. So we're left waiting, and getting pissed. Of course with most of the guys here, if the girls did explain the situation they'd still get pissed.

There are almost certainly entitled hookers in Colombia, if you fiddle around with the definition of entitlement. Mostly, the ones you think are entitled are just like all of us. They've decided to only accept offers which meet their standards.

Back to your entitlement. You bitched about the ventilation in your Airbnb and demanded a different place. You didn't bother to consider that what you were so upset about is a standard feature throughout Medellin. You complain about the noise without considering that you're in a city of more than 4 million, with one of the highest population densities in the western hemisphere. There's going to be noise.

With most people I'd bend over backwards trying to salvage their trip, but any effort would be wasted on you. So go ahead with your ranting and crying and then get your entitled ass back where someone can change your diaper and pick up your pacifier when you drop it.

Mr Enternational
11-08-22, 20:25
So, in countries that make their employees rely on tips, you need to tip. That doesn't make it good or right or sane. It just means some greedy business is convincing its customers to pay its employees.Excellent post. I don't think the businesses were being greedy when it started. They were actually trying to stay afloat. It was the 1920's when the USA was going through tough financial times and somehow the idea of the customers paying the workers instead of the business paying them worked and caught on.

America has gone mad. Like you said waitering and working at McDonald's are supposed to be entry level jobs that noneducated or preeducated people did. Now they are talking about a livable wage. Who would have wasted their time with school if they knew they could have made the same amount without going.

Paulie97
11-10-22, 00:54
An uncontrolled outburst of anger and frustration, typically in a young child.

"he has temper tantrums if he can't get his own way".

Being pissed off does does not equate to a tantrum. I'm sorry but I didn't read the rest of what you wrote because if you're going to try to frame being pissed off internally but leaving a club with composure as a tantrum, then I really don't care about the rest of what you have to say.

Met up with a seeking girl. Not going to go into detail but have I mentioned how much I fucking love this city? Honestly it was the best sex I've ever had and I feel like Austin Powers after he got is mojo back. Sending good vibes, even to you JBee something or another.You're there on the ground enjoying yourself, venting a few frustrations likely while intoxicated which is forgiveable. Some frustrations are fine and normal, as long as you get back on the field. Other than working for free for a webcam girl for a year who sent him home penniless, JJBee's experience is primarily about sending Western Unions to Medellin as he met a working girl there that he thinks is his "girlfriend. " That and buying videos from FB girls to whack off to, some of whom stiff him and he has to come here naming and complaining about them. And this all in the context of someone who has an opinion about everything, approaching 5000 posts in ISG LOL while out to break some kind of record.

Read the last post from JjBee on this thread and we will see who is having the trantrum, and a protracted one at that. Enjoy your trip and send more reports.

Paulie97
11-10-22, 04:13
Excellent post. I don't think the businesses were being greedy when it started. They were actually trying to stay afloat. It was the 1920's when the USA was going through tough financial times and somehow the idea of the customers paying the workers instead of the business paying them worked and caught on.

America has gone mad. Like you said waitering and working at McDonald's are supposed to be entry level jobs that noneducated or preeducated people did. Now they are talking about a livable wage. Who would have wasted their time with school if they knew they could have made the same amount without going.Per usual you go off pontificating without doing any research. That's ironic as tipping inspires work ethic, something you have little of. The practice way pre-dates the 20's, which was actually a financial boom in the US. It's true that the bit of philosophical resistance to the practice was squashed by then. The larger question is, why should anything be compelled to wait on, much less offer sexual services to a fat piece of shit like you without a tip? The whole idea inspires repulsion, thus the concept of "gratuity" is born. This as it gives laborers incentive to work harder while the prices of meals don't have to be increased.

Plus where do you get the idea that general laborers are not untitled to a living wage? There's a lot of that work that needs to be done, and it can't all be covered by suburban high school kids wanting to flip a few burgers to supplement their allowance. So there's obviously a lot of fat between your ears as well.

https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/

Paulie97
11-10-22, 04:20
I loved reading this. This guy SUCKS and his complaining was annoying as hell. It's unfortunate he'll never realize he's the problem.Then don't read what he has to say, though following that logic likely is too much for you. The guy's on the ground in Medellin constantly fucking, and the guy you are sucking off, JJBee, is crouched on a bed in a roadside motel writing up his ten five paragraph ISG posts for the day, after sending his "girlfriend" 100 via Western Union. Who would you rather be?

Paulie97
11-10-22, 09:20
I have heard from others that Americans are too quick to tip when not appropriate in foreign nations. I can recall one time gambling at a casino in Santo Domingo. I was tipping the roulette dealer every time I won. I was quickly given the death look from the others players at the table. I instantly understood that the Dominicans didn't want the dealers to start expecting a tip every time a player won. For the rest of my time in the casino, I was known as New Jersey by the other players LOL. Still had a great time.It can depend a lot according to your social situation. That's even from venue to vengue in Medellin, and especially in the US. You have to feel out each situation as you don't want to buck the norms. But sometimes the norms are in your favor, and the critic is pissed that they are being pushed out. It's up to you to weigh it.

P.S. I remember my years back in the 80's in sales, in midwestern and southwestern bars, and if you brought the cash they were missing, they had the music, weed, booze, and women. Getting your foot in the door is the same, no matter your country. You'll know it when that offer is made.

Thanks for the thought provoking post! You shocked me. Wink. Refreshing.

JjBee62
11-10-22, 11:12
Excellent post. I don't think the businesses were being greedy when it started. They were actually trying to stay afloat. It was the 1920's when the USA was going through tough financial times and somehow the idea of the customers paying the workers instead of the business paying them worked and caught on.

America has gone mad. Like you said waitering and working at McDonald's are supposed to be entry level jobs that noneducated or preeducated people did. Now they are talking about a livable wage. Who would have wasted their time with school if they knew they could have made the same amount without going.And Colombian chicas aren't supposed to be banging old gringos. It's weird nobody ever complains about us perverting the natural order of things.

Name one fast food restaurant chain that went into business because they wanted to provide jobs for high school students. They all went into business for the same reason, to make money. Long ago they figured out they could hire kids to work part time and increase profits. They didn't have to provide benefits and they didn't have to pay them much. After all, all they were working for was extra money to buy cigarettes and condoms. Unfortunately, not enough went towards the latter.

No job was ever supposed to be just for certain classifications of people. A job is a job. There are tasks which need to be done. Someone has to do them, someone has to pay to get them done. If you're not finding anyone to do the job, then you aren't paying enough.

When I was about 10 I rode my bike to granny's house. Her sister was there and they were talking. As soon as I walked in granny asked "how would you like a dollar?" I told her I would love a dollar, that was a soda, and a whole bunch of candy. When she told me everything I needed to do to get the dollar I told her "I don't want it that bad" and my aunt nearly died laughing.

Many members of this forum can tell you that the traditional work model no longer applies. Their office is anywhere they can connect to the internet. Their hours are the ones they choose.

All those people you think those restaurant jobs are meant for have other options too. Why work a weird, inflexible schedule for $10 an hour when you can work when you want, for as long as you want and make up to twice as much?

Any job that's full-time should provide a livable wage. If not, why would anyone work it? And if it doesn't provide a livable wage then the taxpayers have to make up the difference. Take your pick. Have the privately owned companies pay a livable wage, or start lobbying for higher taxes so we can all pick up the tab and protect corporate profits.

Paulie97
11-10-22, 11:48
The Hotel I'm staying at is rated as 4 star by: Hotels.com, Priceline, Kayak, Trip Advisor, Travelocity, Booking.com, Expedia and Agoda. Perhaps they forgot to consult you.Just now got around to checking these posts. Doesn't matter who you list off here. Why are you in a three star hotel, and, admittedly, too pshyically trashed to walk up hills in El Poblado if you are "traveling the world staying in high end hotels?" It doesn't matter what the marketing sites rate your budget. We've seen the pictures, with the plastic back chair and Spartan desks, and know that many of 3 star hotels by USA standards get 4 in the developing world. Plus "high end" hotel aren't charging 38 a night, and very negotiable for long stay so you aren't "traveling the world in high end hotels" as you claimed. Lolol.


indeed I am on a budget. Of course you are, and as a hindered individual struggling to walk up hills, stretching their retirement income in a developing country is of importance.


I have heard from sources that you stay in hostels and / or two story hotels. When? At your last colonoscopy? That's assuming you can afford one camped out in a 3rd World hotel, and that's a huge if. Though I've stayed in a few "two story" hotels in my life (only a few) I've never stayed in a hostel.

So the bottom line, as it always was, and according to professionals, bed beds are best examined for, no matter the price level of the property as they are of the most resilient. Stewardesses check for them, as do the best of academics including endomologists and pest control experts, as it only takes a few minutes. And bed bugs, unlike the "lice" this twerp wants to pivot to can last for a year or more without feeding, as a opposed to a day or two. So you are just a decriped joke camped out in a third world hotel.

JjBee62
11-10-22, 18:56
Then don't read what he has to say, though following that logic likely is too much for you. The guy's on the ground in Medellin constantly fucking, and the guy you are sucking off, JJBee, is crouched on a bed in a roadside motel writing up his ten five paragraph ISG posts for the day, after sending his "girlfriend" 100 via Western Union. Who would you rather be?I see you finally recovered from the last time you decided to take a few swings at me. Good for you. It would be better for you if you addressed the mental health issues which cause your psychotic outbursts, but in lieu of treatment, it's good to know your early onset dementia allows you to forget the humiliation from each new round of attacks.

As always, you have a fertile imagination. Have you been replacing your dead brain cells with agar?

Can't say that I've been in a roadside motel recently. Doesn't make much sense when I'm usually in my apartment. Crouching on the bed, not happening either. I've a perfectly good desk, although I am partial to my recliner. Just don't think I could crouch long enough for 50 paragraphs.

Keeping with the current trend, you're wrong again. I haven't used Western Union for 3 years. Can't remember when I last sent "100" either. I'm assuming you mean dollars, but that makes no sense. If I'm sending money to Colombia, I'm sending pesos. It just makes more sense to send 100 k pesos than to check the exchange rate, calculate the fees and then figure out how much is needed so the recipient gets the right amount.

Sure, I have a girlfriend. She meets all my requirements in order for me to consider her a girlfriend. You're welcome to pass judgement on her and to create your own fictional backstory. I'd love to read all about it. I also do send her money. However, since it's my money and I have more than enough to meet both my needs and desires, I don't feel obligated to request your permission or approval.

But, enough about me. How are you doing? Is that twitch getting worse? Still having those mental meltdowns at the end of each visit to Medellin? Still trying to meet up with guys in Medellin and then going batshit crazy on them over petty little things? How's that working out for you? Still staying in Laureles, taking taxis to El Centro because you haven't figured out how to use the Metro?

So many questions. Of course the biggest question is why? It's been 5 years since you got pissed off at me because your Colombian friend set you up, drugged and robbed you. It's been almost 5 1/2 since you got pissed off at me because you couldn't get a Venezuelan street girl into bed and her friends failed to thank you for buying pizza in a last ditch effort to win her heart.

Certainly, some might wonder why you are angry at me over your own failures. You don't see me lashing out at anyone when I fuck up. Why are you so obsessed with me? I fully grasp the reality that some people don't like me. Popularity isn't my goal. However, that's not it. After your first meltdown you came looking for me, wanting to spend time with me. After your second meltdown you came back to pm with me after I called you out for your passive-aggressive crap.

Each time I was willing to talk and listen, until I realized the cycle would continue to repeat and I walked away. What is it about me that keeps you coming back? The result is always the same. I'm willing to keep playing the game as long as you're thrilled to lose every time. I just don't grasp what's in it for you.

One final point, before I try to crouch on my bed. The guy who's on the ground in Medellin constantly fucking, isn't. His trip, according to his reports, has mostly been getting pissed, and getting stood up, with a few disappointing sessions and apparently 1 good one. If I remember correctly, you called him out on the same thing I did about strippers asking for tips.

True to form, when you realized he might be an ally in your irrational war against me, suddenly he's the Messiah of Medellin and you're washing his feet. How many times have you done this? How does it always end? It ends with you sulking for 2 months, while I continue doing my same thing.

Paulie97
11-11-22, 04:08
Taking "swings" at you is shooting fish in a barrel. It's just a matter of a wild hair. My life, unlike you, isn't built around posting in a hooker forum. You rarely visit Medellin, other than to get reamed by a webcam girl as you cried here about how she never paid you for running her camera. You now think you have a "girlfriend," even though you walk around like a forward sloping question mark with a mound of erratic Spanish moss on top of what sorta resembles a head. In a word, you are a loser, and talking about how others need "meds," one of the oldest lines on the internet does nothing to help you.

You actually were a guy with potential, but choked, forever living off the laurels of a Navy nuke past but never had the balls to complete a higher degree. So you are a guy with aptitude but spotty coherence, little common sense or emotional maturity as you respond with five paragraphs here to any real or perceived slight. You are an eight year old kid with high tests scores of old, that never served any purpose other than to feign superiority in a hooker forum.

P.S. Yes I have tremors after a hard night of vacation drinking. It's of the most common hangover systems, and when the same goes away so do the tremors. Duh. Unlike you, who post with sleep apnea hoses connected to that Spanish moss mop, while rushing to the ER from time to time with cardiac arrhythmias, not to mention that with any half assed gust of wind you are going to plunge headlong in the nearest pothole, it's ironic when you talk about another's health. So you see, loser, this is a game I know how to play as well, though much better than you. Though I'm not in here playing it every day like you as your indentity depends on it. LOL.

Paulie97
11-11-22, 04:39
The biggest problem I see with your writing JJBee is you spend five paragraphs to make points you could have made in one. Do you realize that the vast majority of people here never read your posts because they are too long and poorly organized? And that could have been avoided had you grown a pair and took advantage of one of the many excellent universities in your state. Academics despise fluff and tangents. So that's what we keep coming back to, balls, balls enough not to rent a room and run the camera for a webcam girl while not getting paid. That scam should have been deflated in a week, but you put up with it a year! Balls enough not to send money to FB girls for whack off material who then stiff you, and balls enough not to pretend to have a "girlfriend" in Medellin when she will take any cock as long as the guy pays the going rate.

P.S. Send me the number of your "girlfriend" on the backchannel. I'll plug her next week.

JjBee62
11-11-22, 07:53
Attention please. The Bipolar Paulie Crazy Train Express, with continuing service to OCD Junction, Paranoid Schizophrenia Falls and Narcissim City is now arriving on track 2. Passengers are reminded to collect their excessive emotional baggage and please use caution when disembarking. The mental platform may be unstable. Thank you for traveling with Nutjob Railways.


You're there on the ground enjoying yourself, venting a few frustrations likely while intoxicated which is forgiveable. Some frustrations are fine and normal, as long as you get back on the field. Other than working for free for a webcam girl for a year who sent him home penniless, JJBee's experience is primarily about sending Western Unions to Medellin as he met a working girl there that he thinks is his "girlfriend. " That and buying videos from FB girls to whack off to, some of whom stiff him and he has to come here naming and complaining about them. And this all in the context of someone who has an opinion about everything, approaching 5000 posts in ISG LOL while out to break some kind of record.

Read the last post from JjBee on this thread and we will see who is having the trantrum, and a protracted one at that. Enjoy your trip and send more reports.At first it was funny, but when I realized the mental illness was real, it wasn't as funny. However, upon accepting that it's not as much of an illness as a personal choice, it became hilarious. Of all the things you could have been, you selected this.

I'm amused each time you have a big reveal of things I've written about many times, as if you've discovered Tutankhamun's tomb. Wow! Really? You called a press conference to announce a discovery that's been discussed ad nauseum for going on 5 years now?

Even though the entire story has been told at least half a dozen times, your grasp of the details is about the same as a duck's grasp of neurosurgery. However, let's focus on the 1 indisputable fact. On March 28,2018 I left Medellin, following 50 consecutive weeks in the city, penniless. The entirety of my worldly possessions fit easily in 2 suitcases. Absolutely true. A sad tale, to be sure. But my story didn't end there.

On March 29 I was officially employed and began working on March 30. By the end of April I had a car and a place to live, along with about $2500 of debt. By the end of October I was debt free. Completely. By July of 2019 I had upgraded my living situation to better than my pre-Medellin situation and had already returned for a 2 week visit to Medellin. October of that year saw me returning to the job I'd left to go to Medellin at significantly higher pay. I could have gone back sooner, but I had an obligation to fulfill first.

Early in 2020 I splurged on a new car. Nothing special, but a huge upgrade from what I was driving before (or after) my Medellin adventure. Early this year I got a 40% pay raise. Now I've got all new furniture, new appliances and an income roughly double my 2016 income. I've made 4 trips back to Medellin and have another set for Christmas.

From my perspective, my Medellin disaster was a huge win for me. Anyone else can form their own opinion. There's no question that my financial situation is greatly improved, but at what cost?

Over 50 weeks I spent roughly $25,000. Add the debt I incurred on my return and round it to $30 k. That's $30 k for a 1 year vacation, because watching naked women on webcam and offering my guidance for a few hours each night, while drinking beer in a bar, really doesn't sound like work to me. $30 k to improve my Spanish from 5% to 40%. $30 k to become intimately familiar with Poblado, Laureles, El Centro, Envigado and Itagui. $30 k to meet many people, several who are now lifelong friends. $30 k to spend 10 months in an upscale apartment with a successful webcam model (successful enough to emigrate to a 1st world nation and own property on 2 continents), one of those friends.

Sure I missed out on my income for a year, but all things considered, I'll make that trade every time.

To add to my sorrowful tale I now have a girlfriend. I'm not entirely certain I want a girlfriend, but for the moment I'm quite happy with her. While you are free to imagine whatever you wish, you know absolutely nothing about her. Feel free to improvise.

To address another of your pointless points, I did buy videos from several Facebook girls, particularly early in the pandemic. It's kind of disturbing you imagine me masturbating while watching, but I suppose when the Viagra no longer brings the wood you've got to pump it up with your forbidden fantasies. Again, improvise as necessary.

Now let's compare misadventures. I believe it was September of 2017 when you went out with (in your words) a Colombian friend and got drugged and robbed and ended up in the hospital. You've told at least 3 versions of the story, in the third, your friend was the one who drugged and robbed you.

I've got a few friends, some are better than others. However, I absolutely refuse to be friends with anyone who is willing to kill me in order to steal a few hundred dollars. Then again, I can afford to be somewhat picky with my friends. Meanwhile, after so many psychotic outbursts towards every person you get to know, perhaps you have to take anyone who is willing to hang out with you, even if they're only there to rob you. I guess you're lucky the guy wasn't a cannibal.

Thanks for the entertainment. I look forward to your next thrilling installment. Keep on twitching.

Paulie97
11-11-22, 15:42
Attention please. The Bipolar Paulie Crazy Train Express, with continuing service to OCD Junction, Paranoid Schizophrenia Falls and Narcissim City is now arriving on track 2. So the twit writes up two different replies to the same post. Talk about obsession, and from a droop along weirdo fuck that never brought up any "twitch" until cornered about some taboo interests in Medellin. Call it the Hail Mary of Hail Marys.

Tremors from hangovers yea, occasionally when really tying one on, no twitches. But what you are into? God help you bro.

Paulie97
11-11-22, 16:06
However, let's focus on the 1 indisputable fact. On March 28,2018 I left Medellin, following 50 consecutive weeks in the city, penniless. The entirety of my worldly possessions fit easily in 2 suitcases. Absolutely true. A sad tale, to be sure. That's all we need to know. And your whole life is a sad tale, even now as you get ripped off from FB girls when you send them $ for beat off material, or wire $ to an active prostitute that you call your "girlfriend" online. Not to mention that your health is shot, your posture is horrible, you can't maneuver a hairbrush or find your way into a barber shop, your heart is failing and you have to hook yourself up to what by all appearances is a World War I gas mask just to try to sleep through the night. You're done Bro, and even though you passed the standardized tests to get into the Navy, you never manned up to at least earn a bachelors degree. But nothing has changed, passing your wives around as a swinger, to getting swindled and laughed at by hookers today, to gasping for air while you pass out in public transit and can't stand up straight.

That was the Cliff Notes version, and this while propping yourself up as an expert on Medellin, compensating for your failures by attacking newbies, etc. This while your on the ground experience is very minimal, as you've spent very little time in country aside from the time penniless in your rented room, filling your role as a strap on boy receiver to be used by a web cam girl you met beating off online. You are are fraud. Get it? That's what the community here needs to know, and now they know it.

Paulie97
11-11-22, 18:35
Thanks for the entertainment. I look forward to your next thrilling installment.Thank me for forcing you to type out War and Peace playing defense, trying to explain yet again how you managed to get yourself strap on reamed yet again by a sex worker? My pleasure any time. You can count on me. On the latter, rest assured that you are about a sure bet for the last word. Your ego is way too invested here as your hooker forum guru status is on the line, at least among those that read stupid shit. Plus I'm in Medellin next week. If you happen to be around shoot me a PM here. The Pilsens are on me. Anything I tell you here I'd of course say to your face. I never pulled punches before.

Elvis 2008
11-11-22, 21:06
Sure, I have a girlfriend. She meets all my requirements in order for me to consider her a girlfriend. You're welcome to pass judgement on her and to create your own fictional backstory. I'd love to read all about it. I also do send her money. However, since it's my money and I have more than enough to meet both my needs and desires, I don't feel obligated to request your permission or approval.Let's get the positive out of the way first. Your gal is cute and if she traveled to Chicago to meet you, there is more than the usual P4P.

So you are paying your "girlfriend"? Does she pick up her money with her Colombian boyfriend? Isn't that what your sorry douche ass said about every guy who sends money to women in Colombia?

And you let Paulie's comment about fucking her slide which tells me there is truth to it. Your definition of girlfriend then is what everyone else calls a sugar baby. Welcome to the club douche! And after your autobiography about how great a year you had sliding into debt, it tells me the real reason you were not in the club was not desire but because your jealous and cheap ass had no money.

The only thing left to ask is that now that you have a job, are you going to keep voting Democrat?

If Viliany had listened to Paulie about the dangers of Colombia, maybe that douche would not have told his friends, who later got robbed, how safe Colombia was. And believe it or not, Paulie has been a good and loyal friend to both you assholes even when you trashed him.

To paraphrase Animal House, fat, drunk, stupid, in debt, and watching live and video porn is no way to go through life son. Only you would try to justify a year like that. The rest of us would call it what it was, hitting rock bottom. Unless Paulie was a person keeping you down, and I doubt he was, then you have no clue what a friend really is.

MaddTraveler
11-12-22, 00:03
Instead of generalizing, I give specific observation. I went to gusto last week. The pretties girl is a tall Negra with nose ring. More than half should not be there, meaning charging that kind of money, I won't even take one of them for 30 mil.

Some mongers are paying more because of competition. You already implies so with your own situation. I said this a few times before. Online dating is asymmetric and it benefits the seller. One pays more because he has to outbid the other foreign mongers. Using seeking as an example, all the mongers on it are bidding against each other in some way. In El Centro, mongers share more, instead of compete, that reduces the cost.

As for quality, last time I checked Seeking, two of the best looking by pictures are two higher price FB girls. One is Negra who goes by Vitoria. The other is a Blanca who goes by Elisabeth. Members will know who I am talking about if you are on FB long enough.Dude with 2000+ posts one would think you're posting truthful info but you're not. If you hate SA / Seeking and not using it as you sound, why make a comment on something you don't know? Geesh why assuming and be dead wrong and be laughed at by the guys who use it?

No, men aren't bidding for pussy nor have we a price war in seeking lmao. Dude, majority of girls on seeking are non pros or semi pros.

The pros are the ONLY ones who want the price upfront before the meet. I'm in Bogota now and only 1 out of 10 appointments discussed price upfront cause she insisted.

The others, guess what? They have normal day jobs, we plan to go on dates, dancing, mall, museum, all cheesy daytime shit and then chill.

Many say they're ok with whatever gift I offer, some we haven't discussed any price or exchange of anything yet. In Medellin I have 3 that I always fuck raw even from our first meet, never discuss price, and they take gladly what I offer. I spend less than 400 k usually for all nights, multiple pops, with girls that range from 8-10. You can't get that shit on FB or anywhere else. I'm flying over one of my MDE wifeys to BOG, she agrees to come spend 3 days, 500 k per day, all raw, mult pops + gifts, food, travel. That's a sweet deal for me and she's a solid 10.

My MDE ones are university students living w parent, one works as an RN. One of the new candidates from Bog is a fucking Doctor intern she claims. So I don't know WTF you're talking about on price bidding. No such thing.

On seeking women are prob 100 to 1, as most men especially from this forum are too cheap to pay $109 monthly to be on that platform, which I don't mind at all. So stay in your fucking lanes LMAO, not you per se Nounce, but anyone here always crying about girls, pricing, or tipping LOL. This aint for you.

Beside it's illegal to discuss pricing or PPM (pay per meet) on the platform anyway, illegal as in you go to jail mofos. So it's not the practice there and the site warns on it. I only discuss pricing if I must w the few pros only via whatsapp, AFTER I LAND where it's legal to do so.

Paulie97
11-12-22, 02:02
An uncontrolled outburst of anger and frustration, typically in a young child.

"he has temper tantrums if he can't get his own way".

Being pissed off does does not equate to a tantrum. I'm sorry but I didn't read the rest of what you wrote because if you're going to try to frame being pissed off internally but leaving a club with composure as a tantrum, then I really don't care about the rest of what you have to say.

Met up with a seeking girl. Not going to go into detail but have I mentioned how much I fucking love this city? Honestly it was the best sex I've ever had and I feel like Austin Powers after he got is mojo back. Sending good vibes, even to you JBee something or another.This guy had what he deemed were some bad experiences, but brushed himself off, got back on the field and back to getting his brains fucked out. Good for him. JJBee, who essentially only sends $ to Medellin, doesn't vacation there, slams him from afar and got called out for it. The same goes in panic mode with his delusional and pitiable hooker forum guru / king of the hill status under attack, and starts talking about mental illnesses, imagined "twitches" while typing out War and Peace trying to explain why he's been bending over and taking the strap on from women all his life. I'm not impressed, and neither should anyone else here. TalkYes, welcome to the forum and keep on posting. New blood here is welcome, as after all you are the future of ISG.

P.S. I knew Elvis would get his two cents worth in (LOL), and with some good thoughts. We aren't going down the political road until his crowd dumps Trump and the election denialism. At that point I'll consider some Repubs. Until then I'm stuck with the Dems, most of whom are more left than me. Beers and a chat session have been offered to him as well, though he's spending time outside Medellin these days. Good luck out there bro.

Paulie97
11-12-22, 02:37
If Viliany had listened to Paulie about the dangers of Colombia, maybe that douche would not have told his friends, who later got robbed, how safe Colombia was. There's organized gangs there that never work alone. Don't deal with girls in pairs unless it's in a structured environment like a casa or strip club, or if you know one or both of them very well. Even still the latter has risk as these girls can change or fall into temptation. But one's chances of being robbed or drugged in a place like New Life or Zandalay is virtually zero. The only way it could happen is if a girl acted alone and she'd be canned immediately for it. Those places are gold. The same can be said for Bara Ejectiva if you are out at night.

Anyone can be got. That's because none of us have perfect attention spans and we all occasionally drop our guards. Avoid major errors while watching out (ojo con eso) in the moment and you'll very likely be okay. No Medellin isn't "just as safe as any major city in the world. " And no, just because you know street in St Louis and NYC doesn't mean you are safe in Colombia, as there are different phenomenons going on there.

Good luck guys and have fun.

Paulie97
11-12-22, 04:26
To paraphrase Animal House, fatWe have to get some reality going. JJBee might have a truck stop pot belly going by now. But when I saw him he was too broke to even buy food, all while whimpering about how the web cam model and her alpha male boss were so mistreating him. He had this massive gray ungroomed mop on top of his head, which if he'd have been the many that lose his hair he'd have been blessed, but no such luck. He then walked around with these forward reaching droops, lurches and hiccups where you are waiting for the moment when he goes head first into the sidewalk. And this actually happened one day, when two street urchens tried to rob him in Centro, though he had no $, one doing a front body block while JJBee screamed to high heaven, "I have nothing!" and they believed him. Honesty is the best polcy I guess.

Villainy
11-12-22, 16:28
If Viliany had listened to Paulie about the dangers of Colombia, maybe that douche would not have told his friends, who later got robbed, how safe Colombia was. And believe it or not, Paulie has been a good and loyal friend to both you assholes even when you trashed him.
Much like you, Paulie has no friends. Also, in your inimitable style, both of you are prepared to weave a tale without even the least semblance of truthfulness.

As a glaring example, . I should have listened to Paulie about the dangers of Colombia? And then my friends would not have been robbed? Do tell? I am not aware of any of my friends getting robbed, not a single one. But then again, when has truthfulness ever been a requirement when composing one of your blusterous screeds. Or one of Paulie's for that matter.

Nounce
11-12-22, 19:56
Dude with 2000+ posts one would think you're posting truthful info but you're not. ....When you say something like this, it means your reason is weak. Lets count the number of posts that you or I try to help another memeber out? For this week, this month or this year, that will be more meaningful and it is public information that everybody can see.

The attached image shows I helped another member to get a Seeking girl contact. You don't know me. What you say about me displays your bias, not mine.

MaddTraveler
11-12-22, 20:16
When you say something like this, it means your reason is weak. Lets count the number of posts that you or I try to help another memeber out? For this week, this month or this year, that will be more meaningful and it is public information that everybody can see.

The attached image shows I that helped another member to get a Seeking girl contact. You don't know me. What you say about me displays your bias, not mine.I ain't trying to debate you or measure post counts. I referred to it cause I'm disappointed in you and you're still doing it, like bruh stay on topic, the subject is about using SA that you haven't used, yet assuming and writing invalid and incorrect info about it on a public forum. Now you're deterring the topic and want to discuss post counts? Who's weak again?

It's not a big deal man, I only post facts based on my experience and clearly many have had similar posts and experience on SA.

You do a girl search in Medellin within 50 miles radius and you'll have 10,000 results, it's like the girls outnumbers the fellas by 100/1 or even more. Yet you writing garbage like we're bidding against each other blah blah. SA is a dating site, most meet or require to meet w / o price discussion, at least not on the site. It's not a puta price bidding site. I you're wrong, grow some balls and admit it. I could careless of how little I've posted vs you BS.

Elvis 2008
11-12-22, 21:12
Also, in your inimitable style, both of you are prepared to weave a tale without even the least semblance of truthfulness.

As a glaring example, . I should have listened to Paulie about the dangers of Colombia? And then my friends would not have been robbed? Do tell? I am not aware of any of my friends getting robbed, not a single one.This is your post September 26 2022, #57957.


I am an idiot. OK, I just had two friends, (one lives here and the other has visited several times) message me and tell me that they have been robbed. These two friends aren't careless or show-offs or anything of the like. So, I'll back-pedal what I said. Medellin can be a little more dangerous than I let on. I guess places like Phillipines or Thailand are safer.What is your excuse now for lying now douche? You have a stroke?

And I have no friends? Paulie asked me to have a beer with him, and I could not because I am meeting with my GF, you know the one you made fun of for having saggy tits?

And so now the friends line is bullshit too. Can you label two sentences together without contradicting yourself? And why are you even posting here? You get off on lying? Because you have zero credibility.

Seeing as how I said I would not read you anymore, you can accuse me of not being truthful, and I will plead guilty as charged. Of course, when I was not signed in and saw you say you are an idiot, I could not help myself and unblocked you.

But leaving me out of it, Paulie warned about the dangers of Medellin while you blabbed about how safe it was because you never had any problems, and he was right and you were wrong. You admitted to that and now tried to lie about it again.

So insult me some more douche. What else do you got when your own words say you are full of shit?

Elvis 2008
11-12-22, 22:07
P.S. I knew Elvis would get his two cents worth in (LOL), and with some good thoughts. We aren't going down the political road until his crowd dumps Trump and the election denialism. At that point I'll consider some Repubs. Until then I'm stuck with the Dems, most of whom are more left than me. Beers and a chat session have been offered to him as well, though he's spending time outside Medellin these days. Good luck out there bro.Paulie, the whole Dem-Republican thing came out of of Covid and the travel ban to Colombia with Covid. I was pissed as shit about that because there was zero scientific evidence it worked. And in fact, it was Republicans and Trump who said banning flights from China would stop the spread of Covid. Of course, it did not. Worse, even Fauci said travel bans did not work early on. He also said the same thing about masks not working.

What governments were doing was making rules: some based on science, some based on scientific anecdotes, and some pulled out of their ass, and travel bans were in the last category. The Dems, who seem to worship whatever scientists say and not look at what their opinions are based on, were critical of me. I could not believe this. This whole thing should have been apolitical.

So the political discussions on this really made no sense. Being pro-vax and anti-vax were political definitions. I was pro-vax when the vaccine was 95% effective and antivax now when it is 0 to 20% effective, yet more often that not, being provax or antivax has to do with what party you belong to. Why the fuck is that? And how is that productive?

The last time I went to Colombia I was asked for my vaccine card, and it cracked me up. It has been shown definitively that being vaccinated has nothing to do with the spread of Covid. I can almost hear people say "Well, they are just wanting to be safe" when it is fucking stupid. It should be made fun of not excused.

Still, unlike my showing my card, the lockdowns and travel bans actually hurt Colombians so much so they rebelled. It is a flat out lie to say the lockdowns and travel bans were pulled because safety was achieved. Those measures were stopped not because they worked with Covid, but Covid was spreading anyway.

Just like the vaccine debate where politics really should have had nothing to do with anything, the lockdowns and travel bans were political too. The Democrats lock up scientists and said that if anyone goes against their scientists, they are stupid. That is just wrong. Science is data not people, and I do not appreciate people who are too foolish to know the difference lecturing others. It is fine to lecture people on fact based conjecture but not on opinions and so much of Covid policy was based on opinion and not data.

DonCarlos1234
11-12-22, 23:56
You want to know something funny! After I discovered SA and being in this hobby, at first I hesitated sharing intel w a bunch of horny and thirsty dudes on sites like this one so they don't go ruin it, but then I realize few others were on it and discussed it, yet sooooo many don't believe the reports and stay away from it. Meaning it's not for everyone, which is good.

Part of it is because it's not cheap, and also most guys prefer point and click environment and are lazy to actually take a girl on a date, or have small talk, etc. So now I don't mind sharing bc I know the losers will stay away. But if you're the guy who want to travel and want to diversity your time between casas / hardcore putas, and also go on actual dates with beautiful ladies, then it's for you.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements

Most guys here have the curiosity but self identify as "Mongers" think of this as a "hobby" and are too cheap to have any meaningful relationships. STILL there are some that use it, try it and it can be life changing. Treat them with resect, do not expect them to want to hear about $ till they know who you are. Do not let them contact you. You contact them.

JustTK
11-13-22, 03:02
Most guys here have the curiosity but self identify as "Mongers" think of this as a "hobby" and are too cheap to have any meaningful relationships. Treat them with resect.I will treat them w the same respect that you give to guys that don't happen to be attracted to SA.

JustTK
11-13-22, 03:07
They have no clue what real GFE is, and don't even want to try, because they are too lazy, insecure, etc.I wonder which guys you have met in order to arrive at these statements. Knowing you from other comments you made, probably none.

MiamiBoy1
11-13-22, 03:30
I wonder which guys you have met in order to arrive at these statements. Knowing you from other comments you made, probably none.I have met quite a few. Most of them are super cool dudes. I tend to meet only like-minded individuals and have zero interest in meeting guys like you because we have the opposite views and mongering style.

JjBee62
11-13-22, 07:10
Let's get the positive out of the way first. Your gal is cute and if she traveled to Chicago to meet you, there is more than the usual P4P.

So you are paying your "girlfriend"? Does she pick up her money with her Colombian boyfriend? Isn't that what your sorry douche ass said about every guy who sends money to women in Colombia?

And you let Paulie's comment about fucking her slide which tells me there is truth to it. Your definition of girlfriend then is what everyone else calls a sugar baby. Welcome to the club douche! And after your autobiography about how great a year you had sliding into debt, it tells me the real reason you were not in the club was not desire but because your jealous and cheap ass had no money.

The only thing left to ask is that now that you have a job, are you going to keep voting Democrat?

If Viliany had listened to Paulie about the dangers of Colombia, maybe that douche would not have told his friends, who later got robbed, how safe Colombia was. And believe it or not, Paulie has been a good and loyal friend to both you assholes even when you trashed him.

To paraphrase Animal House, fat, drunk, stupid, in debt, and watching live and video porn is no way to go through life son. Only you would try to justify a year like that. The rest of us would call it what it was, hitting rock bottom. Unless Paulie was a person keeping you down, and I doubt he was, then you have no clue what a friend really is.Ah yes. Paulie, the ever loyal friend, unfairly dismissed and abused by the evil Jjbee. Of all the crazy shit you've spouted, this might be your Mona Lisa.

Let me tell you how great of a friend Paulie is. This will take a bit.

When he messaged me because he had spent too long in a checkout line at Exito, I asked what he expected. It's Colombia. Cashiers are slow, in the best of times. He got angry and began insulting me. Being the evil bastard I am, I let it slide. A few days later his last ditch failed attempt to get a Vennie street girl in bed involved buying pizza for her and the guys she hung out with. Shockingly, none of the street punks thanked him for the pizza (and he didn't get laid). When he told me the story, once again I asked what he expected. What followed was about an hour of verbal abuse and insults, before I stopped responding. Quite the friend, isn't he?

Before I get to the next example of his exceptional friendship, I'll go over how I responded to the abuse, some hours after. I told him I felt he needed a break from his usual routine. I offered to meet him and take him around the city, play tourist and get off his daily routine of viagra, beer and hookers, completely at my expense. His response? "Fuck you. ".

A few months later he came to Parque Lleras looking for me. He wanted to talk. I went to Laureles the next day to hear him out. He told me the first version of his "I was drugged and robbed" story and asked me to post it, without mentioning his name, which I did. The next day I log on to find abusive PMs from superfriend Paulie. His first version of the story had mentioned drinking shots with a stranger and that the stranger kept providing shots. I assumed the stranger was buying shots. However, version 2 Paulie had bought a bottle. Version 3 came much later and involved a completely different bar and the revelation his Colombian friend had set him up.

But wait! There's more. Several months later I was going back and forth with a basement dwelling troll (which, if I remember correctly is what you were saying about Paulie not long ago). When the troll mentioned that he had heard nobody likes me, along with more stuff I replied that I knew where he was getting the information from, something Paulie confessed to via PM. Because I'm such a terrible person, I had a PM conversation with Paulie for a few months. I didn't hold his past transgressions against him and kept it polite. It wasn't until he went on another unwarranted, abusive rant when I finally put him on ignore.

I know of at least 1 other occasion when friend of the year Paulie tried to get another BM to go to war with me via PM, and several times he's tried to score points on me by attacking me through replies to other members, a tactic which you seem to favor. Kinda funny when he's saying I don't have balls.

In the future, you might want to verify your facts before jumping into something you know nothing about. Then again, why change horses in the middle of the race?

Villainy
11-13-22, 13:12
This is your post September 26 2022, #57957.

What is your excuse now for lying now douche? You have a stroke?You certainly caught me there, Elvis. I was a little loose with my language, I said "friends" when I should have said "acquaintances". I met them at the St. Peter bar watching the football games.

I must say I'm really impressed. You must remember ever post I've made and here I was, thinking you couldn't even read.

But let's be real. Medellin is a big city but has a large population of people who are barely getting along. Most of them (in my opinion) are honest but if the kids are screaming that they are hungry and they see a "gringo" walking around with a $1,000 I-phone and gold jewelry. Well, what do you think is going to happen?

I think the city is safe as long as you are careful. Don't walk down empty streets at night, don't wear your jewelry or watches. Don't pull your cell phone out on the streets. It takes a little adjusting but nothing hard. Most of the friends I have here (as opposed to acquaintances) have not had any bad experiences. Paulie was ranting and raving about the gangs in the barrios. Yeah they exist but then again, why would you be hanging around alone in one of the poor barrios?

I wrote a bunch of "rules" for people visiting Medellin (called 'villainy's rules' A lot of the trouble guys have with girls here could be avoided. Just as an example: Don't arrange an overnight 'cita' with a girl you've never met. Unlike you, I've tried to post information that would be helpful to people who bother to read the forum.


And I have no friends? Paulie asked me to have a beer with him, and I could not because I am meeting with my GF, you know the one you made fun of for having saggy tits? Really? Jajajajaja. Don't feel too special, he asked me to have a beer with him too. I wonder if he has asked JjBee too? Needless to say, I have better things to do. Like watching grass grow jajajaja.

Oh and how is Miss Saggy Tits? Did you pay for the breast lift yet?


And so now the friends line is bullshit too. Can you label two sentences together without contradicting yourself? And why are you even posting here? You get off on lying? Because you have zero credibility.I realize that any time anyone makes a mistake, they must be lying. Right? No one (except you) can ever misspeak or make an honest mistake. I know you're not very analytical and that comes from not having a good education. (Sorry, but we both know it is true) but lying is saying something you know is not true. Mistakes? Misjudgements? Misspeaking? It happens but they aren't lies unless you knew it and intentionally misrepresented it. Which is one reason I laugh at so many of your posts in the Opinions / American Politics section. You call everyone one a dumb Democrat and a liar. Those guys are sometimes wrong, sometimes misinformed but rarely "lying", they just happen to honestly believe things that you don't believe or don't understand.

Speaking about lying. I'm still waiting for you to show me those broker statements demonstrating all those money making trades you claimed you made. I have called "BS" on you many times for those claims. I saw that now you claimed you cashed in before the market had that big bounce the other day. How amazing is your timing? Or how much of it is fantasy BS??


So insult me some more douche. What else do you got when your own words say you are full of shit?Happy to oblige, Elvis. But only because you asked nicely, jajajajaja.

JustTK
11-13-22, 14:57
I tend to meet only like-minded individuals and have zero interest in meeting guys like you because we have the opposite views and mongering style.Exactly. But you have no problem in smearing us w negative character traits despite never meeting me / us. Your a ignorant piece of work.

MoonShot
11-13-22, 15:50
I agree with the other board member that there are many types of mongers and you can't categorize mongers into two categories, winners and losers which is essentially what the other guy is saying. Every monger has his own situation.

That is all I will say about the topic.

As for me, when I go to Medellin, I do what I want to do and I really don't give a shit about what a bunch of anonymous board members say. I would also recommend this approach to other guys, Don't worry about what a bunch of anonymous guys think. Do what you want and pay what you want, it is your money and your time.

I am still in Medellin now But the trip is winding down.

I am having a great time with the girls from Facebook. They have all provided GFE experiences for me and I've been very happy with their performances. Most have been young, in the 18 to 20 age range and I am experienced enough not to believe that any of them are in love with me or have any great desire for me other than for making some money.

That is fine for me. I'm not looking for a girlfriend or a wife here. I'm just looking to have a good time young attractive women for a reasonable price. So far the flakiness is minimal, just one girl but she did it twice to me. There is always some crazy excuse but in both instances, I was able to get another girl for the night so no big deal.

The fun continues for me for a few more days before I return to the reality of work.

I will say that to group mongers together is a bit off. The younger mongers are completely different from the older mongers in their '50's and up. For older mongers, it is not the case that we can't attract women, it is that we are unable to attract women who are in the 18-24 age range. At least that is the case with me.

Villainy
11-13-22, 20:01
Exactly. But you have no problem in smearing us w negative character traits despite never meeting me / us. Your a ignorant piece of work.Hahahaha you are not allowed to call some one ignorant when you don't know the difference between "your" and "you are / you're" it just comes out wrong.

JustTK
11-13-22, 20:51
Dude don't be an idiot, there is a difference between paying for something of value such as food in a restaurant and throwing money away for free.

If you and the others who attacked me here enjoy. Throwing your money around in order to look like big ballers or weekend warriors .Haha. I didn't attack you. I just made a joke at your expense. I never go to high end clubs bcos I think theyre a waste of money, regardless of tipping.

Sry for not replying earlier, I didn't see your reply as it was moved. And now I just spent 45 minutes giggling at the latest banter on this section.

Nounce
11-13-22, 21:17
I ain't trying to debate you or measure post counts. I referred to it cause I'm disappointed in you and you're still doing it, like bruh stay on topic, the subject is about using SA that you haven't used, yet assuming and writing invalid and incorrect info about it on a public forum. Now you're deterring the topic and want to discuss post counts? Who's weak again?

It's not a big deal man, I only post facts based on my experience and clearly many have had similar posts and experience on SA.

You do a girl search in Medellin within 50 miles radius and you'll have 10,000 results, it's like the girls outnumbers the fellas by 100/1 or even more. Yet you writing garbage like we're bidding against each other blah blah. SA is a dating site, most meet or require to meet w / o price discussion, at least not on the site. It's not a puta price bidding site. I you're wrong, grow some balls and admit it. I could careless of how little I've posted vs you BS.I am just gentle with you to tell you your attack is meaningless. Go ask each girl how many guys contacted her, how many she keeps in contact, and why she go out with you? Then post the answer here. It will provide answer to what I said. The competition does not have to be money. Do you really think it's pure luck that the girl pick you randomly to have sex with you?

I don't look at the total number. I only look at new members. I think you still have a bit too learn.

You think I am not posting my own observation based on my own experience? You are making a fool of yourself in front of the people who know me personally.

JjBee62
11-13-22, 22:02
Sorry. I couldn't address all of your errors in 1 post.


Let's get the positive out of the way first. Your gal is cute and if she traveled to Chicago to meet you, there is more than the usual P4P.

So you are paying your "girlfriend"? Does she pick up her money with her Colombian boyfriend? Isn't that what your sorry douche ass said about every guy who sends money to women in Colombia? Am I paying her? No. Payment requires an agreement on exchange of goods and / or services. Do I send her money and buy things for her? Yes. Does she take her boyfriend to pick up the money? Probably not. Cost is lower, exchange rate is better and transaction is easier if I send directly to her savings account. Although, I have also sent money to her sister to buy presents for her.

As always, your facts aren't correct. I have said that webcam models often pick up money with their boyfriend. On webcam being "single" is important, but seldom the reality. I've also said that if you want to send money, send it. It's your money. However, I caution that there are no guarantees when you send money, except for future requests for money.


you let Paulie's comment about fucking her slide which tells me there is truth to it. Your definition of girlfriend then is what everyone else calls a sugar baby. Welcome to the club douche! And after your autobiography about how great a year you had sliding into debt, it tells me the real reason you were not in the club was not desire but because your jealous and cheap ass had no money.Sorry, but I've been busy. I can only respond to a limited amount of insanity in 1 post, so both you and Paulie will have to wait, as your posts always exceed the threshold. As for Paulie's mention of fucking my girlfriend, even if she was a working girl, it's unlikely he could afford her, or that she would lower her standards to his level.

Where did you get "jealous and cheap?" I'm neither. My girl might have a boyfriend. I doubt it, but recognize the possibility. Why worry about it? She meets my needs. During her 7 week stay at my place there were no signs of a boyfriend, or that she was missing anyone except her sister, mother and dog. Unless the alleged boyfriend gets in my way, it's not something I worry about. And if there's a boyfriend that interferes in any way, I just walk away. Life's too short to waste it trying to change reality. Accept it and move on. It's not like there's a shortage of girls.

And cheap? Me? Sorry. Wrong guy. If I'd been cheap I wouldn't have left Medellin broke. I tend towards extravagance. Always have.

There was no reason to have a SB when in Colombia and no reason to specifically seek one. I wasn't looking for a SB or girlfriend when I found my girl and she wasn't looking for a SD. Is she now a SB? Maybe. I ponder that from time to time. As I've said, we had been talking for 2 years before we started dating. No money sent, nothing discussed about support. During that time her and her sister were my airport taxi service, we hung out, but never alone and had dinners together, still not alone.

Last trip I spent a night at her place, after her sister and her picked me up at the airport. It was somewhat awkward, but ended up much better. Definitely a new experience for her. The next day we flew to the coast for 5 days. If she's a SB, I'm comfortable with that.


The only thing left to ask is that now that you have a job, are you going to keep voting Democrat?I've always had a job. Over the past 45 years, except for a serious work injury that required over 1 year of physical therapy and my year in Colombia I've never been unemployed longer than 1 week. At a guess my lifetime average is 60+ hours of work per week. I've averaged almost 70 for the last 3 years. I've never voted Democrat. I used to vote Republican. Then I realized voting for a party was stupid. The purpose of both parties is the same; power and control. Voting strictly for a party is just choosing who you want to hold the leash. I vote Republican when there's an honest, conscientious candidate. I vote Democrat when there's no good Republican option. When Republicans come up with better candidates, they'll get my vote.


And believe it or not, Paulie has been a good and loyal friend to both you assholes even when you trashed him.I left that line in because it's so funny. When I first met Paulie he mentioned meeting one other guy, who he praised, the way he used to praise me. After his first blowup, I asked if he had ever had the same thing happen before, where he became unhinged over a reasonably minor matter. Yes. With the only guy he had ever mentioned meeting. Since then, only 1 guy has mentioned meeting Paulie, once. There's been no other mention. I wonder if guy 3 experienced the same thing. I have a mutual friend. Maybe I'll get him to ask. What do you think Paulie? Any skeletons in that closet?

Who knows how many others Paulie has shown his special brand of friendship to? Nobody ever mentions him. Nobody ever says thanks for showing them around, or providing them with information. Is it because he doesn't meet anyone, or because he blows up at everyone? Something to ponder.


To paraphrase Animal House, fat, drunk, stupid, in debt, and watching live and video porn is no way to go through life son. Only you would try to justify a year like that. The rest of us would call it what it was, hitting rock bottom. Unless Paulie was a person keeping you down, and I doubt he was, then you have no clue what a friend really is.Again with the lack of knowledge. Well, it is your trademark.

When I arrived in Medellin I weighed 260#. At 6'4" that's not morbidly obese, but certainly fat by my standards. Long before I was in debt I was down to 205#. With my height, at that weight, everyone is worried that I'm not eating. Once I got into debt, I dropped to 180#, which leaves me looking like someone should be showing my picture on TV and asking you to please help. Now I'm at 220#, about 10# above my ideal weight. That rules out fat. Just curious, how do you stack up?

Drunk? I got drunk 3 times in Medellin. Before that, over the previous 15 years, maybe twice. Zero times since then. I rarely drink, and then only in moderation. You're thinking about Paulie. Go hang with him and see what I mean. You can hear all about Jim Morrison and The Doors.

Stupid? Absolutely. Everyone is stupid at various times. Spend 15 minutes on the interstate and you'll see what I mean. For most of us, it's a temporary break from reason. For others it's an addiction. Where do you stand?

Hitting rock bottom? You've said that before and it reveals something about you, which you've never mentioned. Everything you have came from daddy, didn't it? He set you up so you didn't have to earn your position. Right? How many times did he bail you out when you fucked up?

You see, there's nothing wrong with hitting rock bottom. Shit happens, mistakes are made, and sometimes it's just bad luck. What's important is what you do when you hit rock bottom. Only someone who's never had to worry where their next meal is coming from wouldn't understand.

I spent 3 months struggling to stay afloat (which is how I ended up at 180# I spent a few days wallowing in self pity before I swallowed my pride and reached out for help. Help was offered, I accepted, and got myself back on the right road.

You obviously feel that where a person has been is more important than where they are. Another sign of daddy putting you where you are. Most of us, including Paulie, have had our struggles. We've accomplished things through our will and effort. We've fallen down and gotten back up. We can look back at rock bottom and laugh, because we crawled out and got back on our feet. You'll never know that feeling. If you ever hit rock bottom you'll grab a Thermos and a chair and go lay down and cry.

There's power in failure. As a friend told me when he was teaching me to ski, straight to the black diamond trails, "if you're not falling down, you're not learning. Stop worrying about falling and learn to get back up. ".

Left out the "watching porn" part. Don't really do that much anymore. When I was doing it a lot I was getting paid for it. Just not getting paid enough. When I was buying it. Well, maybe I'll talk about that later.

Nounce
11-13-22, 22:02
Exactly. But you have no problem in smearing us w negative character traits despite never meeting me / us. Your a ignorant piece of work.MB treats people differently based on perceived wealth. He did something similar in Sao Paulo forum but because most Scandello club regulars are high end spenders so he would not treat them the same way he treats Centro rates, instead he proposed Seeking as "value" but he failed to see the value otherwise. I am a regular on both. I have the experience and know mongers from both sides. I don't see a real difference as far as satisfaction goes.



http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements

...are too cheap to have any meaningful relationships. ...



This is not only about being cheap. It is their "pussy is pussy" mentality. They have no clue what real GFE is, and don't even want to try, because they are too lazy, insecure, etc. Most of the reports that I see here are so boring and bland. Went to casa X, paid X mil cop, shot 1 load, got out. Meh. Read Steve's reports in the Seeking thread just to compare, and see for yourself what a real girlfriend experience is.

Guys should stop posting something like this. If you read Surfer's report, you think he is not getting GFE when he takes a girl on a trip? And only seeking users get GFE? There is also GB who did something similar. Surfer and GB both speak Spanish, do you guys speak Spanish as well as either one of them?

Most Centro rates are here on longer term. You think they wouldn't get GFE they want with all the time here?

No one hates Seeking, what people hates is the attitude of some Seeking users as shown in the quoted posts, and the superiority displayed.

Elvis 2008
11-14-22, 19:48
You certainly caught me there, Elvis. I was a little loose with my language, I said "friends" when I should have said "acquaintances".

I must say I'm really impressed. You must remember ever post I've made and here I was, thinking you couldn't even read.

I think the city is safe as long as you are careful. Don't walk down empty streets at night, don't wear your jewelry or watches. Don't pull your cell phone out on the streets. It takes a little adjusting but nothing hard. Most of the friends I have here (as opposed to acquaintances) have not had any bad experiences.God, you are a clueless dumb ass. You admit your friends or whatever they are followed your advice and got robbed, and you think that people here are dying to hear your advice on safety? You are a narcissistic boob. My whole point was that your friends should have listened to Paulie instead of your sorry ass.


I realize that any time anyone makes a mistake, they must be lying. Right?You are not just anyone. I said unlike anyone else here I wanted to hit you in the head with a wrench, and I suspect that is a common reaction you bring out in others.


I'm still waiting for you to show me those broker statements demonstrating all those money making trades you claimed you made. I have called "BS" on you many times for those claims.And let's make that clear. You believed my amazing trades were bullshit when they were in the money. When they were not in the money for a few days, you couldn't shut up about how real they were. Maybe you "forgot" that too.

I think everyone knows all they need to be about you now: You are a liar. You are a narcissistic blowhard. You admit you give horrible advice. You are a horrible friend, and you know next to nothing about investing or safety.

And your beef with me was that I come off as too much of an expert? LOL. Well, here is my "expert" opinion: I know envy and jealousy when I see it, and you are such a narcissist you are threatened by it.

JjBee62
11-14-22, 21:15
I agree with the other board member that there are many types of mongers and you can't categorize mongers into two categories, winners and losers which is essentially what the other guy is saying. Every monger has his own situation.

That is all I will say about the topic.

As for me, when I go to Medellin, I do what I want to do and I really don't give a shit about what a bunch of anonymous board members say. I would also recommend this approach to other guys, Don't worry about what a bunch of anonymous guys think. Do what you want and pay what you want, it is your money and your time.

I am still in Medellin now But the trip is winding down.

I am having a great time with the girls from Facebook. They have all provided GFE experiences for me and I've been very happy with their performances. Most have been young, in the 18 to 20 age range and I am experienced enough not to believe that any of them are in love with me or have any great desire for me other than for making some money.

That is fine for me. I'm not looking for a girlfriend or a wife here. I'm just looking to have a good time young attractive women for a reasonable price. So far the flakiness is minimal, just one girl but she did it twice to me. There is always some crazy excuse but in both instances, I was able to get another girl for the night so no big deal.

The fun continues for me for a few more days before I return to the reality of work.

I will say that to group mongers together is a bit off. The younger mongers are completely different from the older mongers in their '50's and up. For older mongers, it is not the case that we can't attract women, it is that we are unable to attract women who are in the 18-24 age range. At least that is the case with me.Glad to hear it's working out for you. Mainly I'm here to comment on the last paragraph.

When we're young, dumb and full of cum, we can easily find women who want to fuck us from 18-60 years old. Up to 30, the selection doesn't change much. By 40 the bottom end of the scale is losing numbers and after 50, you'll have to dig and work to get a good one under 30. When I hit 50 I looked at my easy options, dismissed them, then at my options I could get if I worked hard enough. I decided paying for what I wanted made more sense than working for what I was willing to settle for.

JjBee62
11-14-22, 21:19
MB treats people differently based on perceived wealth. He did something similar in Sao Paulo forum but because most Scandello club regulars are high end spenders so he would not treat them the same way he treats Centro rates, instead he proposed Seeking as "value" but he failed to see the value otherwise. I am a regular on both. I have the experience and know mongers from both sides. I don't see a real difference as far as satisfaction goes.

Guys should stop posting something like this. If you read Surfer's report, you think he is not getting GFE when he takes a girl on a trip? And only seeking users get GFE? There is also GB who did something similar. Surfer and GB both speak Spanish, do you guys speak Spanish as well as either one of them?

Most Centro rates are here on longer term. You think they wouldn't get GFE they want with all the time here?

No one hates Seeking, what people hates is the attitude of some Seeking users as shown in the quoted posts, and the superiority displayed.There are guys who are strictly Centro rats who are the same way as some of the Seeking guys.

JjBee62
11-14-22, 21:37
You certainly caught me there, Elvis. I was a little loose with my language, I said "friends" when I should have said "acquaintances". I met them at the St. Peter bar watching the football games.

I must say I'm really impressed. You must remember ever post I've made and here I was, thinking you couldn't even read.

But let's be real. Medellin is a big city but has a large population of people who are barely getting along. Most of them (in my opinion) are honest but if the kids are screaming that they are hungry and they see a "gringo" walking around with a $1,000 I-phone and gold jewelry. Well, what do you think is going to happen?

I think the city is safe as long as you are careful. Don't walk down empty streets at night, don't wear your jewelry or watches. Don't pull your cell phone out on the streets. It takes a little adjusting but nothing hard. Most of the friends I have here (as opposed to acquaintances) have not had any bad experiences. Paulie was ranting and raving about the gangs in the barrios. Yeah they exist but then again, why would you be hanging around alone in one of the poor barrios?

I wrote a bunch of "rules" for people visiting Medellin (called 'villainy's rules' A lot of the trouble guys have with girls here could be avoided. Just as an example: Don't arrange an overnight 'cita' with a girl you've never met. Unlike you, I've tried to post information that would be helpful to people who bother to read the forum.

Really? Jajajajaja. Don't feel too special, he asked me to have a beer with him too. I wonder if he has asked JjBee too? Needless to say, I have better things to do. Like watching grass grow jajajaja.

Oh and how is Miss Saggy Tits? Did you pay for the breast lift yet?

I realize that any time anyone makes a mistake, they must be lying. Right? No one (except you) can ever misspeak or make an honest mistake. I know you're not very analytical and that comes from not having a good education. (Sorry, but we both know it is true) but lying is saying something you know is not true. Mistakes? Misjudgements? Misspeaking? It happens but they aren't lies unless you knew it and intentionally misrepresented it. Which is one reason I laugh at so many of your posts in the Opinions / American Politics section. You call everyone one a dumb Democrat and a liar. Those guys are sometimes wrong, sometimes misinformed but rarely "lying", they just happen to honestly believe things that you don't believe or don't understand.

Speaking about lying. I'm still waiting for you to show me those broker statements demonstrating all those money making trades you claimed you made. I have called "BS" on you many times for those claims. I saw that now you claimed you cashed in before the market had that big bounce the other day. How amazing is your timing? Or how much of it is fantasy BS??

Happy to oblige, Elvis. But only because you asked nicely, jajajajaja.Oh yes. Paulie did ask me to have a beer with him. That's how all this silly stuff began. We had a few beers and went to a casa. I had a good time, he had a girl with an odor issue. He went back to the casa, or another one and I went home. A few days later he came to Parque Lleras, where we met 2 other mongers, before going to Jenson's bar. We were the only customers. After that my Whatsapp blew up. Mostly complaints about ISG and about certain members. Then came the crazy shit.

Didn't give him much of a thought until he came to Jenson's looking for me a few months later. His tale of woe followed, over beers and shortly after came his next psychotic outburst. That one got him blocked on Whatsapp.

After I called him out over feeding my information to some troll, he admitted it and began sending PMs, several each day. I can't remember what his third blow-up was about, but that was the third strike and he went on ignore.

An invitation to have a beer is an invitation to have him go completely nuts on you. Is there anyone out there who has had a different experience with him?

Villainy
11-14-22, 21:42
God, you are a clueless dumb ass. You admit your friends or whatever they are followed your advice and got robbed, and you think that people here are dying to hear your advice on safety? You are a narcissistic boob. My whole point was that your friends should have listened to Paulie instead of your sorry ass.Where did I say I gave them advice? I didn't. They ended up going to some bars en el centro at night and got jumped coming out. As is always the case with you, Elvis. You have a story to tell and the truth of the matter doesn't play any part.


You are not just anyone. I said unlike anyone else here I wanted to hit you in the head with a wrench, and I suspect that is a common reaction you bring out in others.What a charming fellow you are. I'm living here in Medellin, Elvis. Bring your wrench buddy. But you might want to bring some salsa too. It might make the wrench taste better when you eat it.


And let's make that clear. You believed my amazing trades were bullshit when they were in the money. When they were not in the money for a few days, you couldn't shut up about how real they were. Maybe you "forgot" that too.Yes, Elvis I said your trades were BS. You argued about how savy they were. Where was the evidence? Everyone is still waiting. I pointed out that your trades (hypothetical trades) were pure speculation and turned South just as fast as they went up. I said it then and I say it now. You are full of BS. You never made a trade except in your dreams.


And your beef with me was that I come off as too much of an expert? LOL. Well, here is my "expert" opinion: I know envy and jealousy when I see it, and you are such a narcissist you are threatened by it.I don't think you come off as an expert. Not even a little. Your an insecure child in a man's body. You failed to get an education and your write ponderous posts trying to gain respect on a hooker-board. You'll just have to trust me on this. I'm not envious of your lack of education or success in the world.

BTW did you use all your imaginary gains to get a breast-lift for your imaginary girlfriend with saggy tits? I know I'm not the only one who is dying to know. Jajajajaja.

MiamiBoy1
11-15-22, 06:11
MB treats people differently based on perceived wealth. He did something similar in Sao Paulo forum but because most Scandello club regulars are high end spenders so he would not treat them the same way he treats Centro rates, instead he proposed Seeking as "value" but he failed to see the value otherwise. I am a regular on both. I have the experience and know mongers from both sides. I don't see a real difference as far as satisfaction goes.

Guys should stop posting something like this. If you read Surfer's report, you think he is not getting GFE when he takes a girl on a trip? And only seeking users get GFE? There is also GB who did something similar. Surfer and GB both speak Spanish, do you guys speak Spanish as well as either one of them?

Most Centro rates are here on longer term. You think they wouldn't get GFE they want with all the time here?

No one hates Seeking, what people hates is the attitude of some Seeking users as shown in the quoted posts, and the superiority displayed.Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. I think we both would agree that a job in IT, for example, is superior to mopping floors at Walmart for a minimum wage, for obvious reasons. Any dumbass can mop floor as long as he has arms and legs, but not anyone can succeed in IT. Same goes for ways of mongering. Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. I understand that one may prefer cheap SW girls, rather than spending time and money on Seeking girls, but the truth is, dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

Speaking of Scandallo, I did suggested Seeking as an alternative for those mongers who, like myself, seek value, but at the same time, not penny pinching. The same girls, or girls of similar quality, could be found online for a much cheaper rate. Me personally, I would rather go out with a Seeking girl, and get her spend a night at my place rather than paying premium for the club ambiance. I have always said that Scandallo is not the best place for price sensitive mongers. And I would never advise someone to fuck Lleras girls, because we all know the same girls can be found in Centro in the daytime for a fraction of Lleras rates. Exact same SW girls, who provide exact same service. Paying 5 x-10 x more for the convenience of Lleras park is ridiculous.

So you have tried both Scandallo and SW in El Centro and see no difference as far as satisfaction goes? Either you are blind, or have "pussy is pussy" mentality, in either case, there is, indeed, no difference

Elvis 2008
11-15-22, 06:33
Where did I say I gave them advice? I didn't. They ended up going to some bars en el centro at night and got jumped coming out. As is always the case with you, Elvis. You have a story to tell and the truth of the matter doesn't play any part.It is your story not mine douche, and this is the 4th version of it.


You argued about how savy they were.Totally not true. You are stroking out again.

The funniest thing you said was I am not fighting the Fed, and you did not list one quote from them to back you up. That pretty much says it all about you. In your fucked up head, you think the fed governors are friends of yours and would never hurt you. Of course, they do not know who the fuck you are.

So if the Fed says they are going to do X, and I invest accordingly, I am not brilliant. That is common sense. OTOH, if you think the Fed is going to do Z when they are saying they are going to do X, and you lose, then you have proven to the world once again you are a fucking moron.

You are not fighting me douche. You are fighting the Fed but are such a narcissist you do not see it. This little exchange like this recent rally may make you feel a little better but when it is all said and done, your portfolio is going to be trash.

Skill in the market is training yourself to go against natural emotions. You make yourself happy when things go down because you can buy them cheaper. The natural tendency of the unskilled was exemplified by what you did when your investment was going well. You are happy, beat your chest about how smart you were, and sold nothing.

I said I bought in April, bought more when the market rallied this summer, and sold half my stake in October, and I will be adding more soon.

RamDavidson84
11-15-22, 06:35
Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. I think we both would agree that a job in IT, for example, is superior to mopping floors at Walmart for a minimum wage, for obvious reasons. Any dumbass can mop floor as long as he has arms and legs, but not anyone can succeed in IT. Same goes for ways of mongering. Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. I understand that one may prefer cheap SW girls, rather than spending time and money on Seeking girls, but the truth is, dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

Speaking of Scandallo, I did suggested Seeking as an alternative for those mongers who, like myself, seek value, but at the same time, not penny pinching. The same girls, or girls of similar quality, could be found online for a much cheaper rate. Me personally, I would rather go out with a Seeking girl, and get her spend a night at my place rather than paying premium for the club ambiance. I have always said that Scandallo is not the best place for price sensitive mongers. And I would never advise someone to fuck Lleras girls, because we all know the same girls can be found in Centro in the daytime for a fraction of Lleras rates. Exact same SW girls, who provide exact same service. Paying 5 x-10 x more for the convenience of Lleras park is ridiculous.Hey Miami, always liked your posts BTW. Here is something to think about as you stay in this game longer as I am going to assume you are a younger guy. A lot of the guys who hit centro up for SW are older, don't have much money, and their bests days are behind them. Not all, but a lot. They get better service and have a better more authentic time with these types of working girls compared to the gems you get from seeking or the non-pros you pull. Same thing with your IT job comparison to the custodian. Switch roles with the custodian working the IT which he doesn't have the skills to effectively work at. The stress from being ineffective at his position along with the constant threat of losing his IT job, and it's just a matter of time until he prefers working the lower paying job as a custodian. As a custodian he knows his service is appreciated in this position and he has the comfort of job security. Yes IT is a better job, but some people would still prefer the job mopping the floors. Some guys will always prefer spending their money in centro and getting the type of service they desire which they don't get from the girls on seeking.

For a guy like you who prefers class, keep doing the things you need to do to keep pulling girls from the top ranks of the spectrum as you stay in the game longer.

Mr Enternational
11-15-22, 06:50
Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.LOL. All I date is normal chicks in Colombia and a lot of them are white collar professionals. You are trying to make the shit sound like a unicorn or brain surgery. All it takes is talking to them the same it does for any other chick on the planet. Nothing magical about it.

Elvis 2008
11-15-22, 07:54
Sorry. I couldn't address all of your errors in 1 post.No one cares about any of the personal stuff. The only thing that is relevant in your personal story is your inability to say something sucks. If you hit rock bottom and bounce, the only thing to say is that you learned enough so it will not happen again. Saying it was part of some master plan you hatched is crazy.

Most of the time you see a pro, it is not good. It is like fast food. You are scratching an itch. If you have been on a desert island or the sex prison, and you come to Colombia, I get the need to stuff one's self with it as you have been deprived, but it is rare to have great sex fucking someone on a cardboard bed or massage table surrounded by paper walls with Clorox in the air.

But if you find a good one, then it is worthwhile to try to keep her on retainer. Maybe you find her in a club, on the street, or on line, it does not matter. It pays to keep quality.

Thing is I found it better to have more than one, and I think three or four is ideal. If I rotated my women, I cured the need to get strange. You are getting enough different and you are getting the highest quality women and sex to boot.

Guys who have done this know it is way better than just your random street girl. Some guys call this hooker on retainer but I do not like that because there is more intimacy with these women then a hooker, so I go with sugar baby.

What is annoying about this is when you are paying the retainer fee, some douche like you used to be says that money is not worth it because the girl ALWAYS picks it up at Western Union with her BF. What you are trying to say is how much better you are because damn it, you only pay for sex. You think we are getting ripped off by these women when we are paying a retainer. We were never paying for exclusivity.

Of course, you never got it JJBee. Maybe you do now. You are paying for a good time in the future, a retainer or investment. So when you come to Colombia, she is going to drop everything and show you a good time. You dumb asses made fun of the term investment and now you are doing just that. LOL. I repeat. Welcome to the club.

What you never got is that I do not care if she has a BF. I care that when I am in town she treats ME like I am her BF. I cannot control her when I am not there and vice versa. Hell when I got to know my SBs, they would talk to me about their BF problems.

And of course, if you are collecting the best looking and performing women in your SB harem, you are going to have better sex than just some random WG. How could that not be true? It was stupid that people were actually debating this.

Unless you are exclusive with her and she with you, you do not have a GF, and it is not like having a GF is automatically better. With a GF, there are expectations you have to meet that as a SD you do not. A GF is going to demand more of your time whereas a SB will be on your schedule.

And just because you meet family does not mean the woman is not a SB. You will and should be intimate with your SBs. That enhances the relationship but a SB SD relationship will not or should not exist unless there is money for sex. It is P4 P plus some intimacy.

I honestly think the situation where a man has three or so women he rotates as SBs is ideal. Yes, you will have to cut some off when they get overly greedy, get BFs, or are not dependable. The desire to upgrade also is something that can keep things fresh and exciting. Still, when you have a harem, you have pussy in abundance and companionship that is not solely $ based without the emotional commitment of a typical relationship. It is the most realistic and best sexual relationships that most guys can get.

Most guys get GF to get pussy. They go from starving to abundance, and that is when I think women have the upper hand. With me, I was coming from abundance, and the woman had to earn my giving up other women. She had to be so hot, so good in bed, and so nice that I look at my harem and say "I am better with just this one woman. " That is what I call earning a man's monogamy.

And JJBee if you are not willing to give up other women and she other men, you do not have a GF. You are just saying that because you think GF is a more mainstream term than sugar baby.

You have a real GF when you willingly give up all other pussy.

As for my dispute with Nounce and saying this is the best sex there is, it has to be. If my harem was made up of some of the best P4 P women there are, and if I am giving up my harem for one girl, then she had better be sexually better than the harem. IMO it is very rare to find such a woman.

Maybe you will get this now. It is a natural progression for guys when one is looking for the best sex.

Mtndew704
11-15-22, 09:04
Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. I think we both would agree that a job in IT, for example, is superior to mopping floors at Walmart for a minimum wage, for obvious reasons. Any dumbass can mop floor as long as he has arms and legs, but not anyone can succeed in IT. Same goes for ways of mongering. Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. I understand that one may prefer cheap SW girls, rather than spending time and money on Seeking girls, but the truth is, dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

Speaking of Scandallo, I did suggested Seeking as an alternative for those mongers who, like myself, seek value, but at the same time, not penny pinching. The same girls, or girls of similar quality, could be found online for a much cheaper rate. Me personally, I would rather go out with a Seeking girl, and get her spend a night at my place rather than paying premium for the club ambiance. I have always said that Scandallo is not the best place for price sensitive mongers. And I would never advise someone to fuck Lleras girls, because we all know the same girls can be found in Centro in the daytime for a fraction of Lleras rates. Exact same SW girls, who provide exact same service. Paying 5 x-10 x more for the convenience of Lleras park is ridiculous.

So you have tried both Scandallo and SW in El Centro and see no difference as far as satisfaction goes? Either you are blind, or have "pussy is pussy" mentality, in either case, there is, indeed, no differenceYou aren't sleeping with strata 6 chicas because of your good looks or personalities. Quit lying to yourself.

JjBee62
11-15-22, 09:30
Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. I think we both would agree that a job in IT, for example, is superior to mopping floors at Walmart for a minimum wage, for obvious reasons. Any dumbass can mop floor as long as he has arms and legs, but not anyone can succeed in IT. Same goes for ways of mongering. Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. I understand that one may prefer cheap SW girls, rather than spending time and money on Seeking girls, but the truth is, dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates. Requires even more time and effort, and A game. Very few guys on here can have it accomplished, and those who did, get my respect.

Speaking of Scandallo, I did suggested Seeking as an alternative for those mongers who, like myself, seek value, but at the same time, not penny pinching. The same girls, or girls of similar quality, could be found online for a much cheaper rate. Me personally, I would rather go out with a Seeking girl, and get her spend a night at my place rather than paying premium for the club ambiance. I have always said that Scandallo is not the best place for price sensitive mongers. And I would never advise someone to fuck Lleras girls, because we all know the same girls can be found in Centro in the daytime for a fraction of Lleras rates. Exact same SW girls, who provide exact same service. Paying 5 x-10 x more for the convenience of Lleras park is ridiculous.

So you have tried both Scandallo and SW in El Centro and see no difference as far as satisfaction goes? Either you are blind, or have "pussy is pussy" mentality, in either case, there is, indeed, no differenceNo. It isn't superior. It's just different. A job in IT isn't superior for someone who doesn't have the aptitude, or doesn't have the desire to work in IT. And from my time in IT I can guarantee there is no shortage of dumbasses holding jobs in IT.

Any dumbass can also get girls off Seeking. Just read the posts. The dumbasses aren't hard to find. As a friend used to say, "If you can't see it, you might be it. " There's no "A game" required and not much effort either. Getting girls online to date and fuck isn't difficult. I've been doing it for over 30 years. When you narrow it down to a website specifically designed for dating and fucking, it's about as difficult as getting wet in a swimming pool.

It isn't superior in the same way that steak isn't superior to hamburger. If you only want to eat steak, that's fine. It doesn't make you better than someone who would rather eat hamburgers. The steak isn't superior to the hamburger. Either one can be dry or overcooked. Either one might be delicious.

JustTK
11-15-22, 14:08
Any dumbass with $10 in his pocket can go to Centro and get laid or get a quick CBJ without any social or language skills, regardless of the looks and personality. Finding a great repeat girl off Seeking or any other platform with whom you have great chemistry is a challenge, requires time and effort, but the reward might be high. dating Seeking girls is superior, like flying first class is superior to flying economy, both will get you from point A to point be, but the experience is different. Dating non-pros, beautiful, intelligent, successful white collar professionals is another level compared to Seeking dates.
So you have tried both Scandallo and SW in El Centro and see no difference as far as satisfaction goes? Either you are blind, or have "pussy is pussy" mentality, in either case, there is, indeed, no differenceSeems that MB is not of the world's great listeners.

JustTK
11-15-22, 14:09
You aren't sleeping with strata 6 chicas because of your good looks or personalities. Quit lying to yourself.Strata 6 girls would not be offering themselves as paid sex to some materialist, egotistical bloke from a facist state.

MiamiBoy1
11-15-22, 14:29
You aren't sleeping with strata 6 chicas because of your good looks or personalities. Quit lying to yourself.Why don't you enlighten all of us on what it takes to sleep with strata 6 girls?

Villainy
11-15-22, 15:07
Strata 6 girls would not be offering themselves as paid sex to some materialist, egotistical bloke from a facist state.How would you know?

Mtndew704
11-15-22, 16:27
Why don't you enlighten all of us on what it takes to sleep with strata 6 girls?I never have nor will I ever claim to know how / where to meet strata 6 girls. Just because you throw around more money than others doesn't automatically make your experience better or superior. If the seeking method works for you, that's great keep at it. I don't need some girl to act like my GF, I already got a Dominican 1 in the states.

MiamiBoy1
11-15-22, 16:59
I never have nor will I ever claim to know how / where to meet strata 6 girls. Just because you throw around more money than others doesn't automatically make your experience better or superior. If the seeking method works for you, that's great keep at it. I don't need some girl to act like my GF, I already got a Dominican 1 in the states.Then your prior comment is useless. BTW, it was you who threw looks and personality out of the equation, assuming strata 6 girls would only want money.

MiamiBoy1
11-15-22, 17:18
It isn't superior in the same way that steak isn't superior to hamburger. If you only want to eat steak, that's fine. It doesn't make you better than someone who would rather eat hamburgers. The steak isn't superior to the hamburger. Either one can be dry or overcooked. Either one might be delicious.Your analogy is faulty. Steak comes from a limited area of the cow, so there are only so much steaks can be made. Hamburger can be made from meat anywhere on the animal, but they never waste steaks to make hamburger. You get a lot more hamburger from an animal than you get steaks, and price is always based on availability. Therefore, steak is always superior, no matter your preference.

MiamiBoy1
11-15-22, 17:41
Any dumbass can also get girls off Seeking. Just read the posts. The dumbasses aren't hard to find. As a friend used to say, "If you can't see it, you might be it. " There's no "A game" required and not much effort either. Getting girls online to date and fuck isn't difficult. I've been doing it for over 30 years. When you narrow it down to a website specifically designed for dating and fucking, it's about as difficult as getting wet in a swimming pool.

Getting girls off Seeking is not a rocket science and doesn't require a degree. But saying that it is not difficult, doesn't require A game and much effort is totally wrong. I bet you have never used it and have no idea what you are talking about. Go ahead and try to set up a date with a Tinder or Seeking chick that is in top 5-10% without discussing a price or throwing some big $, and I can pretty much guarantee she won't even reply, let alone sleep with you. Now, if one wants to just bust a nut with ANY random girl, one would be better off visiting a casa or hitting El Centro.

Mtndew704
11-15-22, 17:44
Then your prior comment is useless. BTW, it was you who threw looks and personality out of the equation, assuming strata 6 girls would only want money.I threw it out the equation because you have deluded yourself into thinking its a big factor in why you land these girls from seeking. Take the money part away and I'm confident your success will come to a screeching halt.

MiamiBoy1
11-15-22, 17:57
I threw it out the equation because you have deluded yourself into thinking its a big factor in why you land these girls from seeking. Take the money part away and I'm confident your success will come to a screeching halt.If you are a dumbass, the money won't help you land a strata 6 girl.

Villainy
11-15-22, 18:10
It is your story not mine douche, and this is the 4th version of it.No Elvis, just your 4th repetition of your version of the story which still isn't true. I know you come from the school that if you say it loud and often people will believe it. But it still isn't true.


The funniest thing you said was I am not fighting the Fed, and you did not list one quote from them to back you up. That pretty much says it all about you. In your fucked up head, you think the fed governors are friends of yours and would never hurt you. Of course, they do not know who the fuck you are.I don't think I ever said anything about you "following or fighting the Fed". If anything, I would posit that you haven't the fainest clue what the Fed does, what their mandates are or how they operate. But that is par for the course. You read some article somewhere and you now think you are an expert about investing and how the Fed operates. You have demonstrated time and time again that you don't understand basic economics, or statistics or finance or investing.


Skill in the market is training yourself to go against natural emotions. You make yourself happy when things go down because you can buy them cheaper. The natural tendency of the unskilled was exemplified by what you did when your investment was going well. You are happy, beat your chest about how smart you were, and sold nothing.This kind of sums up everything you understand about markets. You don't understand investing. You are describing a trading strategy and only a very simpleton version which, of course, comports with your educational and intellectual deficits. Investing isn't about making trades that may or not make you a few percent and then cashing out. Investing is about understanding the fundamentals of a company and how those fundamentals play forward. You make a fortune by buying an Apple when they unveil their new invention "the smart phone" and you hold on for dear life. 15 years later you are a wealthy man living in Colombia jajajajaja.


I said I bought in April, bought more when the market rallied this summer, and sold half my stake in October, and I will be adding more soon.Keep saying it over and over. You never did anything of the sort and you can't show that you did either. All you are doing is Monday morning quarterbacking. You see. I can tell you that I bought Amazon and Google in 2002 rand 2004 respectively, and sold them in November 2021. But I didn't do that. I wish I had but I didn't. You see Elvis, I don't have to lie about my investments.

Mtndew704
11-15-22, 18:29
If you are a dumbass, the money won't help you land a strata 6 girl.If picking up women is a tough task for you than I feel sorry for you.

JjBee62
11-15-22, 20:51
Your analogy is faulty. Steak comes from a limited area of the cow, so there are only so much steaks can be made. Hamburger can be made from meat anywhere on the animal, but they never waste steaks to make hamburger. You get a lot more hamburger from an animal than you get steaks, and price is always based on availability. Therefore, steak is always superior, no matter your preference.I never expect you to understand simple concepts and you never disappoint me.

Using your analogy, since cow shit comes from an even smaller area of the cow than steak, eating cow shit is always superior to eating steak. Feeling hungry?

Beef liver, beef heart and of course the testicle are also less available than steak. Still superior?

And if price is always based on availability, then it has nothing to do with beauty or level of service. One legged, blind women must be pretty high on your bucket list.

JjBee62
11-15-22, 23:13
If you are a dumbass, the money won't help you land a strata 6 girl.You're not landing estrata 6 girls. I know an estrata 6 girl (and no, I never landed her or tried) and you're not going to find them on Seeking weeding through the chumps. If they want to meet gringos their family will just send them to spend a few years at some university in the US (and if they don't want it to be gringos, Spain, Germany or anywhere else).

At best you're occasionally getting an estrata 3 girl with a rare 4.

JjBee62
11-15-22, 23:27
If you are a dumbass, the money won't help you land a strata 6 girl.Shit. I forgot to congratulate you on your new friend. Paulie is almost certain to become a member of your fan club now.

JustTK
11-16-22, 00:03
If you are a dumbass, the money won't help you land a strata 6 girl.It doesn't seem to prevent you.

LoveItHere69
11-16-22, 01:58
Well, dating Seeking / Tinder / FB girls is indeed superior to banging Centro SW. So basically if she has a job as a janitor she is ugly and is horrible in bed. Then she gets promotes to working on the manufacturing line she is then ok looking and is ok in bed. Then if she works really hard she becomes the CEO then magically becomes sexy as hell and is a goddess in bed?

Comparing women to airline seats is pointless. More costly seating has more room, more cushion in the seats, more leg room, etc. Everyone agrees. But that does not apply to women. So poor uneducated prostitutes (Centro) have small boobs, are fat, and horrible in bed. Better educated with more money prostitutes (casas) have medium boobs, little chubby, and ok in bed. Finally the Parque Lleras or FB prostitutes with even higher education and more money have huge boobs, skinny, and awesome at sex.

Wow! Your world is overly simplistic.

DramaFree11
11-16-22, 04:24
Elvis / Miami Boy I will never understand why you guys are slumming it in Colombia, but that is your decision. You both seem to have your shit together. Come to CDMX or MTY you do not have to deal with the drugs, violence, the girls bad attitudes and bad food.

You are wasting your time arguing with these guys, they hate everything, there whole goal in life is to be cheap, I guess this is why they are hanging out in MDE. They get pissed off if you do not agree with there cheap ass lifestyle.

Move on the, grass is greener on the other side.

RacShack
11-16-22, 15:14
Elvis / Miami Boy I will never understand why you guys are slumming it in Colombia, but that is your decision. You both seem to have your shit together. Come to CDMX or MTY you do not have to deal with the drugs, violence, the girls bad attitudes and bad food.

You are wasting your time arguing with these guys, they hate everything, there whole goal in life is to be cheap, I guess this is why they are hanging out in MDE. They get pissed off if you do not agree with there cheap ass lifestyle.

Move on the, grass is greener on the other side.Interesting, thanks bud, are you saying theirs no drugs, violence, and girls "all " have amazing attitudes in Mexico, don't they just do it differently their and if remember right us chocolate instead of scop? Oh and no gangs their neither. ? Any and all information will be greatly appreciated bud! Thanks travel safe guys! I understand the food part!

MiamiBoy1
11-16-22, 17:10
So basically if she has a job as a janitor she is ugly and is horrible in bed. Then she gets promotes to working on the manufacturing line she is then ok looking and is ok in bed. Then if she works really hard she becomes the CEO then magically becomes sexy as hell and is a goddess in bed?

Comparing women to airline seats is pointless. More costly seating has more room, more cushion in the seats, more leg room, etc. Everyone agrees. But that does not apply to women. So poor uneducated prostitutes (Centro) have small boobs, are fat, and horrible in bed. Better educated with more money prostitutes (casas) have medium boobs, little chubby, and ok in bed. Finally the Parque Lleras or FB prostitutes with even higher education and more money have huge boobs, skinny, and awesome at sex.

Wow! Your world is overly simplistic.Your conclusions are all fucked up. Clearly, you have poor reading comprehension. I will follow Dramafree's advice and move on. I no longer want to waste my time explaining simple things to you, morons (JustTK, BBBJ62, and their fan club). Good luck!

Mtndew704
11-16-22, 17:23
Lmao mans said there's no violence or drugs in Mexico, I'm done.

DramaFree11
11-16-22, 17:33
Interesting, thanks bud, are you saying theirs no drugs, violence, and girls "all " have amazing attitudes in Mexico, don't they just do it differently their and if remember right us chocolate instead of scop? Oh and no gangs their neither. ? Any and all information will be greatly appreciated bud! Thanks travel safe guys! I understand the food part!Yes, In Mexico if you behave yourself, you will have no issues. In Colombia trouble can find you quickly, sorry it is true. Read the reports.

Obviously, not all the girls have good attitudes, but in general far better then the fat ass Colombian girls in MDE and the ones that travel to CDMX are even worse, They love to tell me how hot they are, and most I would not do for free. If I read anything about Colombia in Mexico instant block. Life is much better without there terrible attitudes.

Elvis 2008
11-16-22, 18:17
I don't think I ever said anything about you "following or fighting the Fed". If anything, I would posit that you haven't the fainest clue what the Fed does.Faintest? Okay Mr. Grammar police. Here is a summary of our dialogue:

V: I am long real estate. I am not fighting the Fed.

Me: Fed chair Powell said the real estate market is overvalued and he is determined to bring it down.

V: You are an idiot who does not understand the Fed, and I never said I was not fighting the Fed.


Investing isn't about making trades that may or not make you a few percent and then cashing out. Investing is about understanding the fundamentals of a company and how those fundamentals play forward. You make a fortune by buying an Apple when they unveil their new invention "the smart phone" and you hold on for dear life.Me: Fundamentals are about knowing the value of something. If something is worth $3000, you sell when someone offers you $4000 and buy when someone offers to sell it to you at $2500.

V: What I read about fundamentals comes from a book. You do not need an exit strategy. Buy Apple. It will always go up.


I can tell you that I bought Amazon and Google in 2002 rand 2004 respectively, and sold them in November 2021. But I didn't do that. I wish I had but I didn't. You never did anything of the sort and you can't show that you did either. All you are doing is Monday morning quarterbacking.V: In August 2022 Amazon was $140 a share and Google was at $120. Today they are both at $90+ but I know what I am doing. Google and Amazon will always go up.

Me: I bought SQQQ around $45. It went to $60+, and I sold a chunk of it. It went back down and I bought more at $50+. It went up to $60+. I sold half my total stake and am now looking to get back in now that the price is at $45.

V: You are a liar. People should listen to me.

And then there is the future conversation we would have:

Me: It is hard to double down on an investment when you see nothing but red / losses. The emotion you feel is fear, and there is the desire to sell. You have to train yourself that you are not wrong but things are getting cheaper. The opposite goes when you are seeing nothing but green. That is the skill: knowing you are right and the market is wrong. Shorting the market was easy. Anyone who listened to CNBC knew the market was going down. The hard part is when to buy and sell.

V: That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Me: That is pretty much what Warren Buffett said. Be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy.

V: You do not understand Buffett.

I am not sure you have to post any more V. It is pretty obvious what you are going to say. Your giving advice about investing is as worthy as the advice you gave on crime, and I am sure in your fucked up head, you think that is a compliment.

Elvis 2008
11-16-22, 19:57
Elvis / Miami Boy I will never understand why you guys are slumming it in Colombia, but that is your decision. You both seem to have your shit together. Come to CDMX or MTY you do not have to deal with the drugs, violence, the girls bad attitudes and bad food.

You are wasting your time arguing with these guys, they hate everything, there whole goal in life is to be cheap, I guess this is why they are hanging out in MDE. They get pissed off if you do not agree with there cheap ass lifestyle.

Move on the, grass is greener on the other side.DF, half the time I am with my gal, it is in Mexico. I am in Colombia now. Roads are flooded due to the rain. Did I ever tell you I drove halfway from Medellin to Bogota? It is mountainous and about 250 miles and google maps put the time to get from Medellin to Bogota at 9 hours. It was also dangerous as hell.

It is the same distance from Mexico City to Acapulco. Again, the road is mountainous and total time to get from CDMX to Acapulco is 4 and a half hours but I felt much much safer. When your have shit infrastructure like Colombia has, you will always be poor.

That said, there is opportunity among the women you will find in Colombia that you will not get in Mexico. You can date an elite woman here. In Mexico, there is so much money it is much harder to do so. If my gal was not here, the only reason I would be coming is the women I had met before.

As for posting here, it is strict payback. I sat on Villiany's stupid crime comments for months. JJBee and Paulie got in a fight, and Paulie left some juicy gossip. It was time to pounce. After giving me shit for years about paying Colombian women from the USA, Mr. Hypocrite JJBee AKA Professor Shit for Brains has been doing the exact same thing. He has a sugar baby and calls her a GF. He tries to make her out to be elite and then says if his broke and ugly ass cannot date elite women, certainly you can not. Once again, he is lecturing about seeking while not having the money for years to use it.

As you know, Colombia cuts up cities in level or stratas. Level 6 was the highest but according to my gal, there are higher levels now. I never thought much of it but when I introduced a hot woman that I turned down to a friend, my gal said she was a level 3 girl, and she subsequently ripped my friend off.

If you are going to hook up long term with a gal, she needs to have a good relationship with one parent preferably the father. Otherwise she is not going to be trusting with an older man. So while I was dating good looking and performing women in Mexico, I never dated the elite like in Colombia. I went out with three beauty queens, my current gal who was living in strata 6 housing when we met, and the daughter of a brain surgeon among others.

I am looking back at that time with that daughter, and I wish I had picked up on what was different about her. You can imagine a girl challenging and being defiant if their parents are druggies or alcoholics but a brain surgeon? Probably not, and she acted like I should have anticipated. She whined about money and wanted it for doing nothing. That was annoying and the bad and should have been expected. The good is she did anything I wanted in bed. There was zero resistance with anything, and I should have pushed it even further than I did, and my gal is the same way. She has never said no. Waking her up for a blowjob at 5 AM? Okay, honey, and she does it.

I wrote what I found in my post and what the natural order will be in guys looking for the best sex. You are rotating a number of hotties that are good looking and great in bed. Mixing them up kind of quashes the desire to find something new. The times you venture out for strange you are looking for an upgrade to your harem or if you cannot get together with your women. Been there, done that, and like you are doing now, it is a lot of fun.

But the women know you are seeing other women, and they do hold a part of themselves back. You have to commit to a woman in order for her to give all of herself to you. Thing is I did not find any woman in Mexico where I ever even dreamed of totally committing. The best I did was a stunning lawyer with mental health issues. There were three women here, amazing women, where I considered it AKA wife material.

Unlike V and JJBee, who are pretty much centro rats and deny it, Paulie admits that is what he sees. DF, seeing as how you did not use seeking when you were here, my assumption is that you did not date the elites. The women you described, and I am not talking looks or performance, seemed to be low strata women with their attitudes.

It sounds like MB is dating the elites and I know Don Carlos has. My gal was in strata 6 housing in Bogota. She paid a 1/3 of the rent and it was a few hundred bucks. Cartagena is the most expensive city in the country. I asked my gal what strata we are in and she said strata 5 or 6 and it is 3 million COP a month for our place. That was $700+ or so when we moved in and now is close to $600, and I am sure it is lower than that in Medellin.

And it is 3 bedroom. So you are talking $200 a month if you split it 3 ways, and Professor shit for brains is saying guys here cannot date strata 6 women? LOL. Give me a fucking break. How cheap is that MF?

When you date lower class women or hire people for a McDonald's, Mr. E's approach is totally correct. I am giving you this amount of money. Take it or leave it. If you leave it, I will find someone else.

What he does not get is that approach does not work on elite women. Directives work on the poor and lower classes. Incentives are best for the elites.

At some point, you are going to get tired of the SB roller coaster you are on, DF. Yeah, the relationships are great now. There is more in the relationship than just $ for sex, but you know if there were no $, the women would be gone. At some point, you are going to want to find someone who likes you for you. I was looking for that without even realizing I was.

At that point, you should consider returning to Colombia. There is great SB material in Mexico DF, but I never did find much wife material there. Maybe you did but there is much more of it here.

But in general, I agree with you. Outside of the women and prices, there really are no other reasons to be here. And there really is not much point in arguing with two arrogant douche bags who never admit they are wrong outside of my enjoying rubbing their face in their lies and hypocrisy, and I did enjoy it so.

Bill
11-16-22, 20:45
No one cares about any of the personal stuff. The only thing that is relevant in your personal story is your inability to say something sucks. If you hit rock bottom and bounce, the only thing to say is that you learned enough so it will not happen again. Saying it was part of some master plan you hatched is crazy.

Most of the time you see a pro, it is not good. It is like fast food. You are scratching an itch. If you have been on a desert island or the sex prison, and you come to Colombia, I get the need to stuff one's self with it as you have been deprived, but it is rare to have great sex fucking someone on a cardboard bed or massage table surrounded by paper walls with Clorox in the air.

But if you find a good one, then it is worthwhile to try to keep her on retainer. Maybe you find her in a club, on the street, or on line, it does not matter. It pays to keep quality.

Thing is I found it better to have more than one, and I think three or four is ideal. If I rotated my women, I cured the need to get strange. You are getting enough different and you are getting the highest quality women and sex to boot.

Guys who have done this know it is way better than just your random street girl. Some guys call this hooker on retainer but I do not like that because there is more intimacy with these women then a hooker, so I go with sugar baby.

What is annoying about this is when you are paying the retainer fee, some douche like you used to be says that money is not worth it because the girl ALWAYS picks it up at Western Union with her BF. What you are trying to say is how much better you are because damn it, you only pay for sex. You think we are getting ripped off by these women when we are paying a retainer. We were never paying for exclusivity.

Of course, you never got it JJBee. Maybe you do now. You are paying for a good time in the future, a retainer or investment. So when you come to Colombia, she is going to drop everything and show you a good time. You dumb asses made fun of the term investment and now you are doing just that. LOL. I repeat. Welcome to the club.

What you never got is that I do not care if she has a BF. I care that when I am in town she treats ME like I am her BF. I cannot control her when I am not there and vice versa. Hell when I got to know my SBs, they would talk to me about their BF problems.

And of course, if you are collecting the best looking and performing women in your SB harem, you are going to have better sex than just some random WG. How could that not be true? It was stupid that people were actually debating this.

Unless you are exclusive with her and she with you, you do not have a GF, and it is not like having a GF is automatically better. With a GF, there are expectations you have to meet that as a SD you do not. A GF is going to demand more of your time whereas a SB will be on your schedule.

And just because you meet family does not mean the woman is not a SB. You will and should be intimate with your SBs. That enhances the relationship but a SB SD relationship will not or should not exist unless there is money for sex. It is P4 P plus some intimacy.

I honestly think the situation where a man has three or so women he rotates as SBs is ideal. Yes, you will have to cut some off when they get overly greedy, get BFs, or are not dependable. The desire to upgrade also is something that can keep things fresh and exciting. Still, when you have a harem, you have pussy in abundance and companionship that is not solely $ based without the emotional commitment of a typical relationship. It is the most realistic and best sexual relationships that most guys can get.

Most guys get GF to get pussy. They go from starving to abundance, and that is when I think women have the upper hand. With me, I was coming from abundance, and the woman had to earn my giving up other women. She had to be so hot, so good in bed, and so nice that I look at my harem and say "I am better with just this one woman. " That is what I call earning a man's monogamy.

And JJBee if you are not willing to give up other women and she other men, you do not have a GF. You are just saying that because you think GF is a more mainstream term than sugar baby.

You have a real GF when you willingly give up all other pussy.

As for my dispute with Nounce and saying this is the best sex there is, it has to be. If my harem was made up of some of the best P4 P women there are, and if I am giving up my harem for one girl, then she had better be sexually better than the harem. IMO it is very rare to find such a woman.

Maybe you will get this now. It is a natural progression for guys when one is looking for the best sex.This may take a while to read and may be worth the effort.

JjBee62
11-16-22, 23:03
Elvis / Miami Boy I will never understand why you guys are slumming it in Colombia, but that is your decision. You both seem to have your shit together. Come to CDMX or MTY you do not have to deal with the drugs, violence, the girls bad attitudes and bad food.

You are wasting your time arguing with these guys, they hate everything, there whole goal in life is to be cheap, I guess this is why they are hanging out in MDE. They get pissed off if you do not agree with there cheap ass lifestyle.

Move on the, grass is greener on the other side.Ah yes. DramaQueen has returned. And his grasp of reality remains as tenuous as ever.

Top 50 cities in the world by murder rate. 13 of the top 25 cities by murder rate are in Mexico. 21 of the top 60 are in Mexico, and only 2 in Colombia. After 60 it's basically all US cities. Violent crime rate by country, Mexico is 4th in the world, Colombia is 7th.

Of course the footnote in both countries is that tourists are less likely to be victims than natives.

I've never had to deal with the violence or the drugs. I've almost never encountered girls with bad attitudes. Although I've probably eaten nearly 1,000 meals in Colombia and probably less than 50 in Mexico, guess which country's culinary offerings put me on the toilet for 7 days.

Nobody has gotten pissed off because those 2 don't agree with their lifestyles. In fact I'll wager that my lifestyle in Colombia is much better than Miamiboy's. What annoys people is when they come along insulting everyone who doesn't follow their style.

So if CDMX is so incredibly good to you, what brings your sorry ass here? I just checked on the fabulous, can't be beat CDMX forum and there have been 2 posts this month. Seems to me, if it's so fucking incredible, someone would occasionally post something talking about how great it was. Shit. Battle Creek, Michigan, population 52,000 has more activity on their forum than CDMX.

Is that the problem? You need to beg people to come to CDMX so maybe 1 person might agree with your opinion? Good luck. While I enjoyed playing tourist in CDMX, I didn't see anything to convince me it was worth choosing as a mongering destination.

JjBee62
11-16-22, 23:13
Your conclusions are all fucked up. Clearly, you have poor reading comprehension. I will follow Dramafree's advice and move on. I no longer want to waste my time explaining simple things to you, morons (JustTK, BBBJ62, and their fan club). Good luck!I have a fan club now? Oh goody! Is there a secret handshake? I really want a secret handshake.

You've never successfully explained anything and I doubt if you ever will. You start off by assuming the way you want to do things is the best way and insult everyone who doesn't accept your way. Meanwhile, you've never provided any evidence that you've ever had any success with your way. Although you have pointed out girls who won't even respond to you.

Please do. Follow DramaQueen's advice and head to CDMX. You won't have to worry about trying to explain things, because there's nobody there to explain things to.

Huacho
11-17-22, 01:44
Of course the footnote in both countries is that tourists are less likely to be victims than natives.But that airport, MEX will still really suck regardless. MDE airport only sort of sucks and you can buy lots of dangerous drugs there such as Ambien, Valium, etc. Maybe you can in MEX too but connecting through there is too much of an ordeal to deal with it to find out. MDE it is all right there and you can buy beers and drink wherever.

Villainy
11-17-22, 02:02
Here is a summary of our dialogue:

V: I am long real estate. I am not fighting the Fed.

Me: Fed chair Powell said the real estate market is overvalued and he is determined to bring it down.So, I see you called this a summary and didn't show any quotes or references to our actual discussions. Why is that? Oh! I know. Because you needed to tell your story and quoting our converstaion would show that you were making it all up. As is your way.

I never said I was long real estate and clearly the Fed Chairman never said he was determined to bring down the real estate market. This maybe what you thought but like I've said at least 100 times: Reading isn't a skill you ever mastered. Make believe. Now that is your forte.


V: You are an idiot who does not understand the Fed, and I never said I was not fighting the Fed.

Me: Fundamentals are about knowing the value of something. If something is worth $3000, you sell when someone offers you $4000 and buy when someone offers to sell it to you at $2500.Well. OK I am certain I did call you an idiot. At least I am honest. I also agree that you do not understand the Fed at all. As to the last part, I'm certain I would not have said that.

Why? Because in English we don't use double negatives. Surely you learned that in the 6th grade. You did get that far in your education, right??

Fundamentals are about: yada yada yada. Elvis you shouldn't use big words you don't understand. Or at the very least you should look them up.


V: In August 2022 Amazon was $140 a share and Google was at $120. Today they are both at $90+ but I know what I am doing. Google and Amazon will always go up.Again with the incapacity to read. I told you that I could have Monday Morning Quarterbacked just like you did. But I never bought Amazon and Google in 2002 and 2004. Go back and read it again and if you still can't understand it. Ask your sugar-baby to explain it to you.


Me: I bought SQQQ around $45. It went to $60+, and I sold a chunk of it. It went back down and I bought more at $50+. It went up to $60+. I sold half my total stake and am now looking to get back in now that the price is at $45.

V: You are a liar. Now that is a fair summary of what I said. You are a liar you never made the trades that you claim and you can't back it up.


Shorting the market was easy. Anyone who listened to CNBC knew the market was going down. The hard part is when to buy and sell.

CNBC? Are you getting your tips from Jim Cramer now? Great! I heard that there is a new ETF which takes a contrarian position in anything Cramer recomends (or pans). I hear it is oversubscribed too. Jajajajaja.

Why don't you tell us about that 2,500% investment winner you booked? Remember that whopper? I am dying to hear all about it jajajaja.

RamDavidson84
11-17-22, 02:56
Ah yes. DramaQueen has returned. And his grasp of reality remains as tenuous as ever.

Top 50 cities in the world by murder rate. 13 of the top 25 cities by murder rate are in Mexico. 21 of the top 60 are in Mexico, and only 2 in Colombia. After 60 it's basically all US cities. Violent crime rate by country, Mexico is 4th in the world, Colombia is 7th.

Of course the footnote in both countries is that tourists are less likely to be victims than natives.

I've never had to deal with the violence or the drugs. I've almost never encountered girls with bad attitudes. Although I've probably eaten nearly 1,000 meals in Colombia and probably less than 50 in Mexico, guess which country's culinary offerings put me on the toilet for 7 days.

Nobody has gotten pissed off because those 2 don't agree with their lifestyles. In fact I'll wager that my lifestyle in Colombia is much better than Miamiboy's. What annoys people is when they come along insulting everyone who doesn't follow their style.

So if CDMX is so incredibly good to you, what brings your sorry ass here? I just checked on the fabulous, can't be beat CDMX forum and there have been 2 posts this month. Seems to me, if it's so fucking incredible, someone would occasionally post something talking about how great it was. Shit. Battle Creek, Michigan, population 52,000 has more activity on their forum than CDMX.

Is that the problem? You need to beg people to come to CDMX so maybe 1 person might agree with your opinion? Good luck. While I enjoyed playing tourist in CDMX, I didn't see anything to convince me it was worth choosing as a mongering destination.If I total up all the time I have spent in both Mexico and Colombia, its close to a year in both countries and I have visited multiple cities in both countries as well. Mexico is significantly safer than Colombia. Not just safer either, for the most part, people do not try to hassle the fuck out of you or scam you out of 2 bucks constantly in Mexico either. If you are not on top of your game, you can very easily end up in a dangerous situation in Colombia. I suppose danger can happen in Mexico or USA as well, but it's really not up for debate, Colombia is all around more dangerous if you are there for pussy. If you are a smooth operator who holds their drug and drink well and you know the ropes, you really won't have any serious trouble in Colombia. It can be exhausting and take away from the moment to always have your guard though. Keep that in mind.

Colombia is also significantly cheaper and easier to monger. The ease of places like Parque Lleras and Cartagena are unmatched by any destination in Mexico both in terms of ease of access and price for quality GFE pussy. Again, there really is no debate here.

Food is not bad at all in Colombia. Mexico really has some amazing high end restaurants if that's what you want. Mexico has better high end food.

I have said this before and I will say it again even though no one came out and asked LOL; If you are a top G and by Top G I mean- you speak Spanish- have class- sufficient funds- want a beautiful woman to engage with outside of sex- have solid online game- do not want to deal with desperate beggars and thieves- CDMX / Mexico is your city all day every day and there is no debate.

If you want physically beautiful girls for the best price and ease of access and you don't mind dealing with low end hookers, shady drug dealers, crooked cab drivers, and everything in between- Colombia is your paradise.

RamDavidson84
11-17-22, 03:29
Ah yes. DramaQueen has returned. And his grasp of reality remains as tenuous as ever.

Top 50 cities in the world by murder rate. 13 of the top 25 cities by murder rate are in Mexico. 21 of the top 60 are in Mexico, and only 2 in Colombia. After 60 it's basically all US cities. Violent crime rate by country, Mexico is 4th in the world, Colombia is 7th.

Of course the footnote in both countries is that tourists are less likely to be victims than natives.

I've never had to deal with the violence or the drugs. I've almost never encountered girls with bad attitudes. Although I've probably eaten nearly 1,000 meals in Colombia and probably less than 50 in Mexico, guess which country's culinary offerings put me on the toilet for 7 days.

Nobody has gotten pissed off because those 2 don't agree with their lifestyles. In fact I'll wager that my lifestyle in Colombia is much better than Miamiboy's. What annoys people is when they come along insulting everyone who doesn't follow their style.

So if CDMX is so incredibly good to you, what brings your sorry ass here? I just checked on the fabulous, can't be beat CDMX forum and there have been 2 posts this month. Seems to me, if it's so fucking incredible, someone would occasionally post something talking about how great it was. Shit. Battle Creek, Michigan, population 52,000 has more activity on their forum than CDMX.

Is that the problem? You need to beg people to come to CDMX so maybe 1 person might agree with your opinion? Good luck. While I enjoyed playing tourist in CDMX, I didn't see anything to convince me it was worth choosing as a mongering destination.I have spent a significant amount of time in both Mexico and Colombia. Probably close to 8-10 months of total time in each destination. My reasons for visiting both nations was purely pleasure and not business. For anyone who reads this, please take all of that into account.

Without a doubt, Colombia is significantly more dangerous than Mexico. Dramafree is correct when he stated, even if you do not look for trouble- trouble can find you in Colombia. I did not say "will find you", I said "can find you". It is not just the danger of being robbed or drugged either, the pestering from the beggars and low end hookers can become very annoying as well in some spots. Cab drivers can also be crooked and a pain in the ass. If you know how to play the game and are a smooth operator who keeps his guard up, chances are you should be fine. It can take away from enjoying the moment to constantly keep your guard up though. Colombia's food is fine, but the country will never be know for its gourmet cuisine to put it mildly. Personally, I found many of the paisas to not be exceptionally mentally stimulating outside of sex, but what do you expect when you are paying for pussy?

With that said, the ease of access to beautiful women at the best prices is where Colombia shines. If you can deal with the thieves, drug dealers, and low hookers, you can have a great time in Colombia at unbeatable prices. Guys on a budget who just want to run through bitches all night will appreciate Colombia much more.

Mexico is for the guy who is a Top G and wants to truly party like an international playboy in style. To do this- obviously, you must have the funds. Virtually everything will be more expensive, but you are not going to deal with the bullshit or element of danger like you will in Colombia. Mexico also has significantly better high end restaurants. This is not up for debate, if you enjoy high end food, Mexico is clearly better. Hotels and service are world class in CDMX. They are better in every regard than Medellin. The ease of access to beautiful women will take much more effort and the guys who have strong online game and speak Spanish will by far get the most out of this. Keep in mind, there is no Clocktower or Parque Lleras type scene in Mexico. If you are going to monger in Mexico, be prepared to drop a few hundred through the course of a night if going to the strip clubs in a place like Guadalajara. If you are going the sugar baby / seeking route, have some class- speak decent Spanish- and a strong online profile and you will be in heaven compared to the USA dating scene. All that being said, if you are out in the city and you act like a big shot asshole who can't hold his drink and drug, trouble may find you. If you play by the rules, I would be very surprised if you ever had trouble.

For 85% of mongers out there, you will probably enjoy Colombia more due to being on a budget and abundance of pussy.

For the Top GS who speak Spanish and have game and / or a large bank account- you will certainly enjoy Mexico more.

Huacho
11-17-22, 08:30
I have spent quite a bit of time in both countries. In fact I have been in jail in both countries and I think they are both pretty dangerous. Cops are even more corrupt in México and hassle you even more. Colombia I find the average person to be a little more fake and untrustworthy. In México you just have more gang infiltration of the police and military and they seem to be targeting tourists towns now, which were previously somewhat off limits. I find Colombia to be going slightly forward in terms of safety and México going backwards. Obviously both are big countries and it depends on what city in México you are comparing to what city in Colombia. Pussy is cheaper in Colombia in most exchange rate environments. Mexican pussy can be really, really great, or a complete waste of time. Colombian pussy tends to be more mean reverting. These are my experiences in the two countries. And yeah Méxican food is better but yeah you are also more likely to get the shits there.

JjBee62
11-17-22, 10:10
This may take a while to read and may be worth the effort.Well, at your suggestion I just read it. Other than for entertainment purposes I'm not sure it was worth the effort. However, I'm kind of stuck waiting around for other people to do their jobs, so I not only read it, but I'll address it. This will also take some time to read. Worth it? Probably not.

The numbers correspond to paragraphs in the post quoted.

1. I never claimed being penniless was part of a master plan. I merely stated, with hindsight I feel the experience was worth the money spent.

2. Not sure what to make of this. Almost all the girls I've seen in Medellin have been at my place.

3. I see no need to keep a pro on retainer. I don't care how good she is, if I'm just seeing her to pay for sex, there's no reason to pay for 6 months to spend 3 nights with her.

5. If you'll recall, not many months ago the same person was talking about how important it was to commit yourself to 1 girl in order to have the best sex. Now it's 3 or 4.

6. As I recently stated, my mention of girls picking up cash with their boyfriends was in a discussion about webcam models, not SBs. However, I stand by my statement that money sent doesn't guarantee anything.

7. The girl in question also "dropped everything" to spend 8 weeks in the US with me. When I'm in Colombia I don't expect her to drop everything. There's no reason not to work around her schedule.

8. The poster, in the past, got quite upset when others suggested his girl was probably seeing someone else. Just look at paragraph 6 to see how paragraph 8 is not exactly truthful.

9. I'm curious where "random WG" comes from. When you're picking a girl, do you just grab a random girl, or are there certain things you look for? Personally, I've had great sex with all different types of girls. Very few have been random.

10. I'm confident the girl in question is exclusive to me and I've been exclusive to her once I made the decision to try this out. There haven't been any demands on my time. Quite the opposite. The only time there was anything close to a demand was the night she locked herself out of the apartment at 11 pm when I was halfway to Chicago. She was apologetic and was willing to sit and wait 7 hours for me to return. Instead, I called an Uber, booked a hotel room and emailed a copy of her passport so she could check in. The locking herself out was partially my fault.

It sort of goes downhill from there, with repetition and contradiction. Such as, the best is to have 3 or 4, but the best is to have just 1.

In my opinion the claim that guys get girlfriends to get pussy only applies if you're still a teenager. If I'm not having sex with a woman on a regular basis, there's no way she's ever going to be a GF. You decide a girl is a girlfriend when the time spent with her is fulfilling enough to make a commitment.

16. This might be the strangest bit. To illustrate why, I'll ask you a question. What is the best meal I've ever had?

You read that right. If you think about it, you could probably come up with several great meals that you've had, but you have no clue about my best meals. If we sat down and listed some of our favorites, you still wouldn't know if you enjoyed your best meals more than I enjoyed my best meals. Our best meals might be completely different. We might have had the exact same meal at the same restaurant and we almost certainly have different opinions about it.

"The best sex there is" is completely subjective. Claiming the sex you're having is better than the sex someone else is having is just plain silly.

BTW, I've been wondering if you ever found a Colombian flag patch?

Gabacho
11-17-22, 14:48
I have spent a significant amount of time in both Mexico and Colombia. Probably close to 8-10 months of total time in each destination. My reasons for visiting both nations was purely pleasure and not business. For anyone who reads this, please take all of that into account.

Without a doubt, Colombia is significantly more dangerous than Mexico. Dramafree is correct when he stated, even if you do not look for trouble- trouble can find you in Colombia. I did not say "will find you", I said "can find you". It is not just the danger of being robbed or drugged either, the pestering from the beggars and low end hookers can become very annoying as well in some spots. Cab drivers can also be crooked and a pain in the ass. If you know how to play the game and are a smooth operator who keeps his guard up, chances are you should be fine. It can take away from enjoying the moment to constantly keep your guard up though. Colombia's food is fine, but the country will never be know for its gourmet cuisine to put it mildly. Personally, I found many of the paisas to not be exceptionally mentally stimulating outside of sex, but what do you expect when you are paying for pussy?

With that said, the ease of access to beautiful women at the best prices is where Colombia shines. If you can deal with the thieves, drug dealers, and low hookers, you can have a great time in Colombia at unbeatable prices. Guys on a budget who just want to run through bitches all night will appreciate Colombia much more.

Mexico is for the guy who is a Top G and wants to truly party like an international playboy in style. To do this- obviously, you must have the funds. Virtually everything will be more expensive, but you are not going to deal with the bullshit or element of danger like you will in Colombia. Mexico also has significantly better high end restaurants..I lived in Mexico from 2015 to 2021 in Tijuana and traveled and mongered extensively in various different Mexican cities and states. I started coming to Colombia is 2018 and last summer I ditched my Tijuana apartment for a better one in Medellin. Anyways since 2020 I started spending more time in Colombia than in Mexico and I believe that Colombia is much better than Mexico for not only mongering but also living, traveling, even food is better in Colombia, and you are correct that everything is much more affordable than in Mexico.

CDMX is a dirty city. I remember back months ago DramaFree, DF would post such great things about DF LOL, but I have spent significant time in El DF and I saw it from a much different perspective. And to correct you there is a street scene in CDMX such as the clocktower, Botero, or Santa Fe and it is where I spent alot of time in Mexico City, it is called la merced, particularly a big wide street with 5 or 6 lanes for care and a chain link fence separating the sidewalks from the streets. This street is called Anillo de Circunvalacion and there are street hookers lined up on both sides of the street and the chain link fence (now a green solid metal structure) anyways it runs from about mixcalco all the way to the mercado de la merced, with short time hoteles inside that market by the metro station. It also runs down Calle San Pablo where they sell the bikes and bike parts and along that pedestrian walkway street where they sell clothes and shoes I want to say it's called corrigedora or some shit. Anyways this area is CDMX's version of Botero. And the women are hideous both in their looks and their attitudes, also many have bad hygiene, many do not shave their their pussies and are hairy as can be, many use a drug called activo that is similar to paint thinner that they sniff LOL. I will take Botero and the vennies and paisas any fucking day over la merced in DF. Also prices are higher and value is lower. Expect to pay the Mexican perras of the merced $200 to 300 mxn if you want them to give a crappy CBJ with their crappy missionary sex. And if you want to see some tetas be prepared to cough up cien pesos mas. A very bad value for very ugly perras and bad service. Also hoteles in the area will run you about $300 mxn a day which is about $15 usd compared to hoteles in medellin around centro run about $40 k COP a day which is like $7. 50 usd so hoteles are twice as much too.

I have also mongered in Tijuana, Puebla, Veracruz (Puerto, Cordoba, and Orizaba), Chiapas (zona galáctica, and centro tuxtla), and I've used mileroticos in Cancun. Every time I have paid more in Mexico than in Colombia, everytime the women are worse quality in Mexico than in Colombia, and have bad hygiene and bad attitudes and it feels like they don't really want to do their jobs. And in Colombia there is a plethora of beautiful energetic vennies costeńas and paisas that are happy to fuck you with a smile, and many are open to BBFS (alot more than in Mexico) and they don't have the shitty attitudes like in Mexico.

As far as food, Mexican food is good, I especially love the tacos de suadero from the street vendors and birria when I'm. In the north of Mexico, but it does give you the shits there is no question about that. And you can find good Mexican food in Colombia, Medellin has several good Mexican restaurants, but you can't find good Colombian food in Mexico, so as far as price, variety, and not having to shit every 20 mins for 4 hours eating, if say the food winner is Colombia not Mexico.

As far as being more dangerous, and I'm only speaking from my own experience and that probably is different than yours. I would have to say that Mexico is way more dangerous than Colombia. From my time living in Tijuana crossing the border everyday for work, etc. I have seen many fights, 2 of my coworkers in San Diego had gotten killed in Tijuana, I've known people who got their cars stolen from parking lots by the border, I've been shaken down by crooked cops in zona norte. In Mexico City the crooked cops are not as much of an issue as in Tijuana but there are other dangers there in the streets.

In Colombia your biggest problem is a taxista trying to give you fake money for change, it's best to just not use taxis. Use inDriver app if you absolutely need a taxi but it is better to just use the metro system and busses in Medellin, I've never had a bus driver or a cívica card recharge person give me fake money for change not even once.

Hope this helps.

Mtndew704
11-17-22, 15:20
I have spent quite a bit of time in both countries. In fact I have been in jail in both countries and I think they are both pretty dangerous. Cops are even more corrupt in Mxico and hassle you even more. Colombia I find the average person to be a little more fake and untrustworthy. In Mxico you just have more gang infiltration of the police and military and they seem to be targeting tourists towns now, which were previously somewhat off limits. I find Colombia to be going slightly forward in terms of safety and Mxico going backwards. Obviously both are big countries and it depends on what city in Mxico you are comparing to what city in Colombia. Pussy is cheaper in Colombia in most exchange rate environments. Mexican pussy can be really, really great, or a complete waste of time. Colombian pussy tends to be more mean reverting. These are my experiences in the two countries. And yeah Mxican food is better but yeah you are also more likely to get the shits there.How did you end up in jail?

Huacho
11-17-22, 16:31
How did you end up in jail?It's too long of a story and too long ago and been told too many times. Short version is, resisted a robbery, fucked a guy up, cops wanted a bribe, I wouldn't pay it and they locked me up all weekend trying to get money out of me. México it was just a big bar fight, which I was attempting to run from, and they just grabbed everybody running out. That was just a night in the drunk tank and they kicked us out the next morning. Some big fat fucker made me clean the toilet though. Colombia was way worse but nothing really happened I didn't get over.

Elvis 2008
11-17-22, 19:52
I never said I was long real estate..And here we go again. You said you were long a REIT, real estate investment trust. Now I have to listen to your cocky idiotic douche ass explain how this is different than real estate all over again when your dumb ass does not understand the case against REITs and real estate is the exact same.


I told you that I could have Monday Morning Quarterbacked just like you did. You are a liar you never made the trades that you claim and you can't back it up.Right so when I play the game it does not count but when you do it does?

Hey, douche, what you are trying to push is the oldest trick in the book. You have some portfolio where you jettisoned all the times you lost your ass and held onto all your gains and are trying to show the world how smart you are. What you offer as proof then is anything but.

Hillary Clinton had one of electoral sugar daddies pull this shit in the 90's and she claimed to have made $100,000 trading cattle futures. Amazingly, she never traded like that again because she did not do it the first time. She made money because her sugar daddy took the hit for all the losses in the portfolio and gave her the credit for all the wins.

If I was MMQB, I would say you were an idiot for not selling at the absolute peak instead of just going back a few months when the discussion began. 2021 was as close to ideal conditions for big tech as there were. I could ask then what your exit strategy is but it is pretty clear, you do not have one and therefore are making the same mistake today as you did then.

The reason you buy and hold is because you think everything has nowhere to go but up. What is so stupid with you is you think what worked the last 20 years ago is going to work again. But douche, we are back in the conditions of the 1970's.

And what I know about you is you are so egotistical, judgmental, and pigheaded, you just cannot adapt to the market, you cannot adapt that way in real life. Your cockiness is just a mask your fear, and you should be afraid because you do not know what the fuck you are doing.

Yield curve inversion, multiple contraction, exit strategy, long term demographic trends mean nothing to you douches and instead of admitting you are getting your asses beat, all you can do is come back with cockiness and lies.

Stocks did so badly in the 1970's, there was a cover story on Business Week Magazine in 1980 entitled, "The Death of Equities" and yeah, I know you did not know that. I also know my telling you that will do nothing except get you even more upset and respond with even more vile posts, another bad sign because that means fear is beating rational thought. Been there, done that.

I enjoy debating people with positions opposite mine who know what they are taking about. You are not one of those people V. You have no made case for your positions outside of how great you are.

Elvis 2008
11-17-22, 21:04
Well, at your suggestion I just read it. Other than for entertainment purposes I'm not sure it was worth the effort. However, I'm kind of stuck waiting around for other people to do their jobs, so I not only read it, but I'll address it. This will also take some time to read. Worth it? Probably not.Well, you have to actually try to learn something.


If you'll recall, not many months ago the same person was talking about how important it was to commit yourself to 1 girl in order to have the best sex. Now it's 3 or 4.This is so you, JJBee. You pick something random out and try to burn me instead of trying to learn what I was saying. It is too fucking funny. I was not arguing but explaining the journey.


II'm confident the girl in question is exclusive to me. There haven't been any demands on my time. Quite the opposite. Meets the definition of a GF? Confident she is exclusive? No demands on my time? Oh brother.

And yet here I thought every time an American guy used Western Union to send money to a Colombian woman, it had to be that she picked up the money with her BF. Now that you are sending money to her the reason she is not picking up with her BF is that you are not using Western Union? That is the best you can do?

You know when I would use a term like "meets the definition of GF"? It is when I had a sugar baby that I liked who I hoped like me as much back. What would snap me out of that funk would be realizing I had to give up all other women for her.

And the discussion of having the best sex of your life is futile? That you think such a discussion is futile tells me you are not having the best sex of your life. That significantly raises the chances you will stray looking for better or she will.

If another poster posted like this two years ago, you would have been up his ass about what a fool he was, and everybody here knows it.

RamDavidson84
11-17-22, 21:37
I have spent quite a bit of time in both countries. In fact I have been in jail in both countries and I think they are both pretty dangerous. Cops are even more corrupt in Mexico and hassle you even more. Colombia I find the average person to be a little more fake and untrustworthy. In Mexico you just have more gang infiltration of the police and military and they seem to be targeting tourists towns now, which were previously somewhat off limits. I find Colombia to be going slightly forward in terms of safety and Mexico going backwards. Obviously both are big countries and it depends on what city in Mexico you are comparing to what city in Colombia. Pussy is cheaper in Colombia in most exchange rate environments. Mexican pussy can be really, really great, or a complete waste of time. Colombian pussy tends to be more mean reverting. These are my experiences in the two countries. And yeah Mexican food is better but yeah you are also more likely to get the shits there.Good point about the cops in Mexico, I was shaken down once by them. Not a fun time. The Mexico I was referring to, was Mexico minus Tijuana. I have actually never been to Tijuana, but from what I understand Tijuana is more similar to Medellin in monger style compared to other Mexican cities.

Mr Enternational
11-17-22, 23:24
If you are a top G and by Top G I mean- you speak Spanish- have class- sufficient funds- want a beautiful woman to engage with outside of sex- have solid online game- do not want to deal with desperate beggars and thieves- CDMX / Mexico is your city all day every day and there is no debate.

If you want physically beautiful girls for the best price and ease of access and you don't mind dealing with low end hookers, shady drug dealers, crooked cab drivers, and everything in between- Colombia is your paradise.Seems you have compared 2 tourist places in one country with the capital of another. If you compared Bogota to CDMX or Acapulco to Cartagena would make more sense. That way we get more apples to apples.

Nounce
11-18-22, 02:38
...As for my dispute with Nounce and saying this is the best sex there is, it has to be. If my harem was made up of some of the best P4 P women there are, and if I am giving up my harem for one girl, then she had better be sexually better than the harem. IMO it is very rare to find such a woman....I don't know we have a dispute. LOL.

I have a dynamic view. For example, some people rank women from 1 to 10. I think there is a range of sexuality from 1 to 10 too. 1 has no interest in sex so the sex likely won't be good and chemistry won't help. 10 requires very little chemistry to have good sex with. Using MiamiBoy as an example, from the sound of it, he may treat 5 and 10 the same while I may just look for the 9 or 10 in sexuality that does not require me to wine and dine them. MiamiBoy said that is how he likes it. My understanding from that is that he will do it for himself, even if the girl does not need it. I agree chemistry helps but you don't necessary need it when you meet a 10 in sexuality. There is also skill that can go from 1 to 10 too. For me, in order to claim to have the best sex, you probably need to get 9 or 10 in most areas. That is why I say it is a rare combination. I don't disagree about your assessment of what is the best for you but I don't think that is the best for me. A lot of stuff happen in our head and my head too.

See how this girl evolves, the one that I did not know like woman. she now trying to arrange 3 some about once a week.

RamDavidson84
11-18-22, 05:14
Ah yes. DramaQueen has returned. And his grasp of reality remains as tenuous as ever.

Top 50 cities in the world by murder rate. 13 of the top 25 cities by murder rate are in Mexico. 21 of the top 60 are in Mexico, and only 2 in Colombia. After 60 it's basically all US cities. Violent crime rate by country, Mexico is 4th in the world, Colombia is 7th.

Of course the footnote in both countries is that tourists are less likely to be victims than natives.

I've never had to deal with the violence or the drugs. I've almost never encountered girls with bad attitudes. Although I've probably eaten nearly 1,000 meals in Colombia and probably less than 50 in Mexico, guess which country's culinary offerings put me on the toilet for 7 days.

Nobody has gotten pissed off because those 2 don't agree with their lifestyles. In fact I'll wager that my lifestyle in Colombia is much better than Miamiboy's. What annoys people is when they come along insulting everyone who doesn't follow their style.

So if CDMX is so incredibly good to you, what brings your sorry ass here? I just checked on the fabulous, can't be beat CDMX forum and there have been 2 posts this month. Seems to me, if it's so fucking incredible, someone would occasionally post something talking about how great it was. Shit. Battle Creek, Michigan, population 52,000 has more activity on their forum than CDMX.

Is that the problem? You need to beg people to come to CDMX so maybe 1 person might agree with your opinion? Good luck. While I enjoyed playing tourist in CDMX, I didn't see anything to convince me it was worth choosing as a mongering destination.Most of the guys who monger in CDMX probably do not have the time to post a bunch of be. S. On a sex mongering forum. Before visiting CDMX I had the same concerns as you, "how could such a huge Latin American city have so few posts on its' threads? Then I visited it and quickly realized it's not a budget destination and most of the guys mongering there most likely live quite busy lives. I don't think you get the digital nomad sex monger type in CDMX, more like the successful married American / European businessman type who is there for the weekend on business or escaping the wife for a few days. To those types of guys, time is much more important than money. They are not wasting there time posting because they are too occupied with their professional and personal life.

I could really care less what any of you do, but for those looking for a different type of experience and may want to try CDMX one day, for the right type of monger it is certainly worth a visit.

JustTK
11-18-22, 15:22
I could really care less what any of you do.Hey Ram. How are you? So why do you care what some of us do?

Villainy
11-18-22, 16:37
And here we go again. You said you were long a REIT, real estate investment trust. Now I have to listen to your cocky idiotic douche ass explain how this is different than real estate all over again when your dumb ass does not understand the case against REITs and real estate is the exact same.Clearly you don't understand Real Estate and why (or how) a REIT (real estate investment trust) is different. You might be the only person I have every encountered from Texas that doesn't understand Real Estate. I could try to explain it to you but you can't read so it would be a waste of time.


Right so when I play the game it does not count but when you do it does?You don't know anything about investing, Elvis. Listening to Cramer on CNBC doesn't make you knowledgeable about investing. Have you ever taken a Finance course? At least that might be a place to start.


Hey, douche, what you are trying to push is the oldest trick in the book. You have some portfolio where you jettisoned all the times you lost your ass and held onto all your gains and are trying to show the world how smart you are. What you offer as proof then is anything but.

If I was MMQB, I would say you were an idiot for not selling at the absolute peak instead of just going back a few months when the discussion began. 2021 was as close to ideal conditions for big tech as there were. There you are. I never owned big tech stocks. You still haven't learned to read. Why is that Elvis? If I were a Monday morning Quarterback like you, I would have claimed to have bought all those tech stocks after the tech bubble burst in 2001 and I would claim to have made millions. I wish I had done that. But I didn't. Practice your reading skills, Elvis. I'm sure there is a remedial high-school somewhere near you.


I could ask then what your exit strategy is but it is pretty clear, you do not have one and therefore are making the same mistake today as you did then.Hahahaha my exit strategy? Pretty clear what my exit strategy is, and it is well documented too. It is called a will. Naturally since I was a CPA I read all the financial statements and if things look like they are changing for one of my investments then I modify my holdings.


The reason you buy and hold is because you think everything has nowhere to go but up. What is so stupid with you is you think what worked the last 20 years ago is going to work again. But douche, we are back in the conditions of the 1970's.No, Elvis. I saved and invested all my working years. Something I learned from my parents. Luckily I did very well. Not hard to fathom. Just keep investing in quality companies or S&P index funds from 1970-2019 and you will have a pretty sizeable fortune for retirement. It wasn't rocket science. So what do you do when you reach retirement? Continue to invest in equities and take chances? Or plug everything into bonds? Neither was appropriate. I changed my portfolio to slowly move monies into solid dividend paying companies. Several of these are REITs. I have the advantange of a very nice income from dividends with very good appreciation. This is one way to derisk a portfolio. I could see that interest rates were not going to be low for eternity so bonds were not a reasonable option.


And what I know about you is you are so egotistical, judgmental, and pigheaded, you just cannot adapt to the market, you cannot adapt that way in real life. Your cockiness is just a mask your fear, and you should be afraid because you do not know what the fuck you are doing.You don't know me at all. I am far more reasonable than you and I don't have to call you names. Only undereducated children have that compulsion.


I enjoy debating people with positions opposite mine who know what they are taking about. You are not one of those people V. You have no made case for your positions outside of how great you are.Hardly. You are extremely insecure. You make up your investment trades after the fact and you even throw in that you have a 2500% investment winner. Tell me all about that one Elvis. I'm still wating to hear about it. Why do you do these things?? Because of your insecurity. You need people to think you are something more than an overweight, undereducated slob. Sadly you haven't changed many hearts or minds.

Villainy
11-18-22, 16:49
I don't know we have a dispute. LOL.

I have a dynamic view. For example, some people rank women from 1 to 10. I think there is a range of sexuality from 1 to 10 too. 1 has no interest in sex so the sex likely won't be good and chemistry won't help. 10 requires very little chemistry to have good sex with. Using MiamiBoy as an example, from the sound of it, he may treat 5 and 10 the same while I may just look for the 9 or 10 in sexuality that does not require me to wine and dine them. MiamiBoy said that is how he likes it. My understanding from that is that he will do it for himself, even if the girl does not need it. I agree chemistry helps but you don't necessary need it when you meet a 10 in sexuality. There is also skill that can go from 1 to 10 too. For me, in order to claim to have the best sex, you probably need to get 9 or 10 in most areas. That is why I say it is a rare combination. I don't disagree about your assessment of what is the best for you but I don't think that is the best for me. A lot of stuff happen in our head and my head too.

See how this girl evolves, the one that I did not know like woman. she now trying to arrange 3 some about once a week.Nounce,

I can't presume to comment on what works best for you as opposed to anyone else. But as I read through the WA exchange with the girl. She agreed to go along with your preferences after stating that she didn't want to do some of those things. You reasonably, thanked her and were preparing to move-on. Then she said "OK I'll do kissing"etc.

My question for you is. Did you see her? How was the session? I've generally followed a similar strategy of describing what I most enjoy in a session (cita) and sometimes the girl says yes I like those things too or no, I don't like this or that. When they say they don't like something but then turn around and say they will do them, I get the sense of desperation and at least for me. Generally those sessions turned out poorly. Sometimes they back away from what they said they would do, or the performance is less than enthusiastic. So, I've generally not booked a session if there is an initial dispute about certain preferences or if there is a dispute about compensation.

I'm curious about your experiences in that regard.

MiamiBoy1
11-18-22, 17:18
I don't know we have a dispute. LOL.

I have a dynamic view. For example, some people rank women from 1 to 10. I think there is a range of sexuality from 1 to 10 too. 1 has no interest in sex so the sex likely won't be good and chemistry won't help. 10 requires very little chemistry to have good sex with. Using MiamiBoy as an example, from the sound of it, he may treat 5 and 10 the same while I may just look for the 9 or 10 in sexuality that does not require me to wine and dine them. MiamiBoy said that is how he likes it. My understanding from that is that he will do it for himself, even if the girl does not need it. I agree chemistry helps but you don't necessary need it when you meet a 10 in sexuality. There is also skill that can go from 1 to 10 too. For me, in order to claim to have the best sex, you probably need to get 9 or 10 in most areas. That is why I say it is a rare combination. I don't disagree about your assessment of what is the best for you but I don't think that is the best for me. A lot of stuff happen in our head and my head too.

See how this girl evolves, the one that I did not know like woman. she now trying to arrange 3 some about once a week.Not sure what you meant by saying I treat 5 and 10 the same. I only apply 1 to 10 scale to the looks, not performance, and I would not even touch a girl that doesn't meet my minimum standards (7/10) looks wise. I have never used 1-10 performance scale, and never seen it used, because it varies a lot. The exact same girl may be great in bed one day, and a total disaster the other day for various reasons (sick, grandma just passed, etc). She may be great in bed with me, but suck with you, or vice versa, depending on chemistry. So it makes no sense to use 1-10 scale to assess performance, unless you do it only for yourself. Wine and dine, yes, I like it, but it also helps building rapport which leads to a better performance after. Who doesn't like to eat good food, drink and have fun?

And speaking of performance again, my personal assessment would be as follows. Will I repeat with her? If not, I will move on. If yes, was the sex good or amazing? Obviously, an ideal scenario is a hot girl, 8+ that provides an amazing sex, but I will take a solid 7-7. 5 that does the same any day rather than a hotter girl that is average or just above average in bed. I won't repeat with any girl whose performance sucks, no matter how hot she is. Amazing sex with 7 and good sex with 8 or 9 would probably be a tie, but in this case I will definitely be focusing on a hotter girl, building a better rapport with her, so that the sex upgrades from good to amazing.

Nounce
11-18-22, 17:28
Not sure what you meant by saying I treat 5 and 10 the same. I only apply 1 to 10 scale to the looks, not performance, and I would not even touch a girl that doesn't meet my minimum standards (7/10) looks wise. I have never used 1-10 performance scale, and never seen it used, because it varies a lot. The exact same girl may be great in bed one day, and a total disaster the other day for various reasons (sick, grandma just passed, etc). She may be great in bed with me, but suck with you, or vice versa, depending on chemistry. So it makes no sense to use 1-10 scale to assess performance, unless you do it only for yourself. Wine and dine, yes, I like it, but it also helps building rapport which leads to a better performance after. Who doesn't like to eat good food, drink and have fun?

And speaking of performance again, my personal assessment would be as follows. Will I repeat with her? If not, I will move on. If yes, was the sex good or amazing? Obviously, an ideal scenario is a hot girl, 8+ that provides an amazing sex, but I will take a solid 7-7. 5 that does the same any day. I won't repeat with any girl whose performance sucks, no matter how hot she is. Amazing sex with 7 and good sex with 8 or 9 would probably be a tie, but in this case I will definitely be focusing on a hotter girl, building a better rapport with her, so that the sex upgrades from good to amazing.It's not about performance. In the case of sexuality, if Brazilian is 10, Colombian maybe 7 on average. These are just relative number I use for explanation, it's not exact. Skill will be more about performance but I will still look at the whole package.

Using your example, there are girls that can easily have chemistry with more men, there are girls that takes work, some take a lot of work. You can make a scale out of that.

I am not trying to invalidate your view, instead I am giving a reason why we think differently.

Mr Enternational
11-18-22, 17:37
I only apply 1 to 10 scale to the looks, not performance, and I would not even touch a girl that doesn't meet my minimum standards (7/10) looks wise. I have never used 1-10 performance scale, and never seen it used, because it varies a lot. But that same thing goes for looks! She could be a 4 looks wise one day and a 7 another day!

Mr Enternational
11-18-22, 17:52
It's not about performance. In the case of sexuality, if Brazilian is 10, Colombian maybe 7 on average. These are just relative number I use for explanation, it's not exact. Skill will be more about performance but I will still look at the whole package.Glad I don't have to put all that pressure on myself worrying that I can not go with a chick because she is only a 6 1/2 instead of a minimum 7 that I must have. I am just out to have a good time.

MiamiBoy1
11-18-22, 20:56
But that same thing goes for looks! She could be a 4 looks wise one day and a 7 another day!No. She can't be fat one day, and fit the next day. She can't have fucked up teeth one day, and have a beautiful smile the next day. Make up and clothing can make a small difference, maybe 0. 5-1 point. 3 points difference is huge, a true 4 can't become a 7 overnight, and would probably need to undergo a whole bunch of surgeries and other procedures to become one. It seems you don't understand the 1-10 scale nor use it, that's fine, stick to your own scale, this has been argued over so many times in the MDE forum.

MiamiBoy1
11-18-22, 20:59
Glad I don't have to put all that pressure on myself worrying that I can not go with a chick because she is only a 6 1/2 instead of a minimum 7 that I must have. I am just out to have a good time.There is plenty of chicks in MDE that I find attractive, 7+. You can keep all 5's and 6's and below to yourself, no worries.

RamDavidson84
11-18-22, 21:24
Seems you have compared 2 tourist places in one country with the capital of another. If you compared Bogota to CDMX or Acapulco to Cartagena would make more sense. That way we get more apples to apples.Good point and both Bogota and Acapulco are on my to do list at some point, but I have never been.

I was comparing the places a guy is most likely to visit if hes going the high end route in Mexico compared to what the average guy does in Colombia. Most guys visiting Colombia these days are hitting Medellin up and a distance second is Cartagena.

RamDavidson84
11-18-22, 21:27
Hey Ram. How are you? So why do you care what some of us do?Ehh I am alright, to be honest I have been takin it real easy since summer ended and I had to return to the USA. Hope all is well with you.

I was just posting to help anyone who is deciding between Mexico and Colombia. I was once in that situation and I am just spreading some knowledge based on experience. Both places can be great for high end and low end, but my opinion is, Mexico is better for high end / SA action and Colombia is the better budget destination.

RamDavidson84
11-18-22, 21:44
I lived in Mexico from 2015 to 2021 in Tijuana and traveled and mongered extensively in various different Mexican cities and states. I started coming to Colombia is 2018 and last summer I ditched my Tijuana apartment for a better one in Medellin. Anyways since 2020 I started spending more time in Colombia than in Mexico and I believe that Colombia is much better than Mexico for not only mongering but also living, traveling, even food is better in Colombia, and you are correct that everything is much more affordable than in Mexico.

CDMX is a dirty city. I remember back months ago DramaFree, DF would post such great things about DF LOL, but I have spent significant time in El DF and I saw it from a much different perspective. And to correct you there is a street scene in CDMX such as the clocktower, Botero, or Santa Fe and it is where I spent alot of time in Mexico City, it is called la merced, particularly a big wide street with 5 or 6 lanes for care and a chain link fence separating the sidewalks from the streets. This street is called Anillo de Circunvalacion and there are street hookers lined up on both sides of the street and the chain link fence (now a green solid metal structure) anyways it runs from about mixcalco all the way to the mercado de la merced, with short time hoteles inside that market by the metro station. It also runs down Calle San Pablo where they sell the bikes and bike parts and along that pedestrian walkway street where they sell clothes and shoes I want to say it's called corrigedora or some shit. Anyways this area is CDMX's version of Botero. And the women are hideous both in their looks and their attitudes, also many have bad hygiene, many do not shave their their pussies and are hairy as can be, many use a drug called activo that is similar to paint thinner that they sniff LOL. I will take Botero and the vennies and paisas any fucking day over la merced in DF. Also prices are higher and value is lower. Expect to pay the Mexican perras of the merced $200 to 300 mxn if you want them to give a crappy CBJ with their crappy missionary sex. And if you want to see some tetas be prepared to cough up cien pesos mas. A very bad value for very ugly perras and bad service. Also hoteles in the area will run you about $300 mxn a day which is about $15 usd compared to hoteles in medellin around centro run about $40 k COP a day which is like $7. 50 usd so hoteles are twice as much too.

I have also mongered in Tijuana, Puebla, Veracruz (Puerto, Cordoba, and Orizaba), Chiapas (zona galctica, and centro tuxtla), and I've used mileroticos in Cancun. Every time I have paid more in Mexico than in Colombia, everytime the women are worse quality in Mexico than in Colombia, and have bad hygiene and bad attitudes and it feels like they don't really want to do their jobs. And in Colombia there is a plethora of beautiful energetic vennies costeas and paisas that are happy to fuck you with a smile, and many are open to BBFS (alot more than in Mexico) and they don't have the shitty attitudes like in Mexico.

As far as food, Mexican food is good, I especially love the tacos de suadero from the street vendors and birria when I'm. In the north of Mexico, but it does give you the shits there is no question about that. And you can find good Mexican food in Colombia, Medellin has several good Mexican restaurants, but you can't find good Colombian food in Mexico, so as far as price, variety, and not having to shit every 20 mins for 4 hours eating, if say the food winner is Colombia not Mexico.

As far as being more dangerous, and I'm only speaking from my own experience and that probably is different than yours. I would have to say that Mexico is way more dangerous than Colombia. From my time living in Tijuana crossing the border everyday for work, etc. I have seen many fights, 2 of my coworkers in San Diego had gotten killed in Tijuana, I've known people who got their cars stolen from parking lots by the border, I've been shaken down by crooked cops in zona norte. In Mexico City the crooked cops are not as much of an issue as in Tijuana but there are other dangers there in the streets.

In Colombia your biggest problem is a taxista trying to give you fake money for change, it's best to just not use taxis. Use inDriver app if you absolutely need a taxi but it is better to just use the metro system and busses in Medellin, I've never had a bus driver or a cvica card recharge person give me fake money for change not even once.

Hope this helps.Nice post with good info. When I say Mexico has better high end food, I am referring to the nicer restaurants in cities like CDMX, GDL, Cancun, and MTY. Not like average restaurant food, but if your looking for a nice high end restaurant, Mexico has some really amazing places. Medellin has some very goods spot as well, but it's really no contest when comparing the best vs best in regards to food.

Obviously Mexico is a huge country. I was referring to mainly the cities of CDMX, GDL, Cancun, etc. You are correct about Tijuana from what I have read about it.

In terms of danger, Parque Lleras and the Clock Tower are shady. The vast majority of guys visiting Colombia are going to be mongering in those spots. I saw alot of fights this summer, alot of homeless beggars, shady drug dealers, just some unsavory people in general. If your in CDMX or GDL for a weekend and your doing the sugar baby / SA route, your just not going to deal with any of that. In those cities there is no in person mongering venues outside of the strip clubs. If that's what you want, then you hit a place like Medellin up, but be ready to deal with those shady characters more compared to the big Mexican cities. The areas of CDMX to pick up the street walkers are a bit shady, but again I am referring to guys who don't mess with street walkers, I am speaking to the type of guy who only deals with 8-9-10's off SA or the high end girls in the strip clubs.

You are 100% correct, if you want streetwalkers that are good looking and give good service at an affordable price, Medellin is the best spot in the world at the moment. If you want to ball out with very high end escorts and deal with no shady characters or bullshit of that nature, eat at outstanding restuarants and stay in classy 4/5 star hotels then CDMX and the big Mexican cities are your "best" option. They are not your "only" option.

Of course you can go high end and low in either country, I am just letting anyone on the fence know, Mexico is better for high end and Colombia is far better for low end.

Mtndew704
11-18-22, 22:25
Most of the guys who monger in CDMX probably do not have the time to post a bunch of be. S. On a sex mongering forum. Before visiting CDMX I had the same concerns as you, "how could such a huge Latin American city have so few posts on its' threads? Then I visited it and quickly realized it's not a budget destination and most of the guys mongering there most likely live quite busy lives. I don't think you get the digital nomad sex monger type in CDMX, more like the successful married American / European businessman type who is there for the weekend on business or escaping the wife for a few days. To those types of guys, time is much more important than money. They are not wasting there time posting because they are too occupied with their professional and personal life.

I could really care less what any of you do, but for those looking for a different type of experience and may want to try CDMX one day, for the right type of monger it is certainly worth a visit.The food alone is worth the trip to CDMX.

Elvis 2008
11-20-22, 02:20
Clearly you don't understand Real Estate and why (or how) a REIT (real estate investment trust) is different. You might be the only person I have every encountered from Texas that doesn't understand Real Estate. I could try to explain it to you but you can't read so it would be a waste of time.And your REITs have been clobbered. Here you are mouthing off again when you lose money. I told you the smart thing to do is buy loan participation funds when the Fed is raising rates. Obviously, you were too stupid to do it. One such fund is SNLN. Since I started talking investing in April, its monthly payout has gone from 3 cents a share to 12 cents a share per month.

Any of your REITs quadrupled their payouts? How about your dividend paying stocks?

Maybe one of these days V you will actually pick an investment that actually does well.

Villainy
11-20-22, 17:08
And your REITs have been clobbered. Here you are mouthing off again when you lose money. I told you the smart thing to do is buy loan participation funds when the Fed is raising rates. Obviously, you were too stupid to do it. One such fund is SNLN. Since I started talking investing in April, its monthly payout has gone from 3 cents a share to 12 cents a share per month.

Any of your REITs quadrupled their payouts? How about your dividend paying stocks?

Maybe one of these days V you will actually pick an investment that actually does well.Your silly comments belie your complete lack of understanding. REITs are frequently very specialized. Some own apartments, some own malls, some shopping centers, some offices, some gambling properties, some single-owner retail, some own hospital properties, some industrial property, some marijuana growing facilities, some self-storage. Are you getting the idea?

There are some types that I avoid like the plague. Office REITs for just one example. CoVid initiated a work from home displacement which seems to be continuing, so I have no interest in those types of REITs. I only had one REIT investment coming into 2022 but as inflation rates accelerated I picked several super strong REITs at really attractive prices. I'm up on all but a few of my picks.

But now let's talk about your investment advice. SNLN. You claim you bought this ETF in April when it paid a monthly dividend of $0. 0309 a share and now you're thrilled because the November dividend is $0. 1177 a share. That would be great. IF it was sustainable. But maybe you noticed that they pay a monthly dividend and it varies depending on earnings. So it almost quadrupled for these two months. But is it a sustainable dividend? The obvious answer is that it is not. So color me unimpressed.

Perhaps you looked at the principal change during that same time??

You say you bought it in April (I routinely doubt anything you say with respect to your investments). Well the average price in April 2022 was 15.55 per share. Where is the ETF today? 14.69. That is a 5. 5% drop in value. So when I look at the monthly dividends paid over the last year. It looks like you are going to end the year with a net nothing to show. Dividends not even equal to the drop in price. And yet you wonder why people don't take your investment advice?? Could it be because you are analytically challenged or because just don't know anything??

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11-20-22, 22:14
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Elvis 2008
11-20-22, 22:36
Your silly comments belie your complete lack of understanding. REITs are frequently very specialized. Some own apartments, some own malls, some shopping centers, some offices, some gambling properties, some single-owner retail, some own hospital properties, some industrial property, some marijuana growing facilities, some self-storage. Are you getting the idea?No one cares.


I'm up on all but a few of my picks.I am not sure what that means.


You claim you bought this ETF in AprilNever said I bought it. Obviously, you have no clue as to why I posted it.


That would be great. IF it was sustainable. But maybe you noticed that they pay a monthly dividend and it varies depending on earnings. So it almost quadrupled for these two months. But is it a sustainable dividend? The obvious answer is that it is not. So color me unimpressed.Yeah, that is what I expected of you. Good luck to you. I think it is best if this is the last word anyone says on the topic.

Villainy
11-22-22, 15:18
Never said I bought it. Obviously, you have no clue as to why I posted it.

Yeah, that is what I expected of you. Good luck to you. I think it is best if this is the last word anyone says on the topic.You never bought it? But you were holding it out as a prime example of your sage advice. Only problem is that it won't even turn a profit in 2022. (Dividends not covering principal loss).

And you can't even begin to point to any reason to expect a more successful year in 2023 or 2024.

I can see why you don't want to discuss it further. You have demonstrated countless times that you don't know the difference between speculating and investing. You make suggestions that are devoid of any reasonable or logical basis. You criticize anyone else who doesn't agree with you with a child-like understanding of fundamentals. And your profound knowledge and expertise comes from watching a clip of Jim Cramer on CNBC.

Yes, Elvis, I can see why you want to end the discussion.

Elvis 2008
11-22-22, 22:52
You make suggestions that are devoid of any reasonable or logical basis.LOL. You just described yourself.


That would be great. IF it was sustainable. But maybe you noticed that they pay a monthly dividend and it varies depending on earnings. So it almost quadrupled for these two months. But is it a sustainable dividend? The obvious answer is that it is not. So color me unimpressed.I already explained why loan participation dividends were going to go up, and you are so fucking stupid or demented, you are clueless as to why. You bragged about two investment classes that get crushed with higher interest rates and I suggested one that does well when rates go up.


And you can't even begin to point to any reason to expect a more successful year in 2023 or 2024.You are so fucking stupid you do not even know the conditions that benefit your own investments.

If you think interest rates stay high or are going higher, like I do, and you need income, you buy loan participation funds. If you want to take on more risk, you go short.

If you think interest rates are going lower, then you want to be in REITs, dividend paying stocks, and bonds. If you want more risk, you go long growth stocks.

And V, you are so fucking stupid that you think these statements you think these statements are up for debate.

So now let us go over how fucking stupid your comment is about dividends in loan participation funds going down. The dividends go down when interest rates go down. Did you say that? No. Did you make a prediction based on interest rates? No. Do you know what the market is predicting with regards to interest rates in 2023 and 2024? No.

You are so fucking stupid that you make no case that loan participation dividends have to go down outside of your own fucking ego.

And no, I am not interested in listening to some dumb shit who thinks what he bought is going up and has no reason or a stupid reason as to why. If you buy something and have no case made for why it has to go up, that is not skill. It is luck.

And I have seen not one speck of skill from you V. Not one speck. You do not know what the fuck you are doing.

Villainy
11-23-22, 20:31
I already explained why loan participation dividends were going to go up, and you are so fucking stupid or demented, you are clueless as to why. You bragged about two investment classes that get crushed with higher interest rates and I suggested one that does well when rates go up.I guess I could have anticipated your post. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is "fucking stupid or demented". I tried to explain to you that REITs have a wide variety of specializations. Some do well in some economic environments some do well in others. Only an uninformed blowhard would think that they all preform the same. Oh well, I guess it is impossible to enlighten someone who can't read.


You are so fucking stupid you do not even know the conditions that benefit your own investments.You have an opinion on everything don't you? You don't have any idea what investments I own other than a general idea about certain groupings. Within each group there are hundreds of possibilities but you "know" which they are and how they perform.


If you think interest rates stay high or are going higher, like I do, and you need income, you buy loan participation funds. If you want to take on more risk, you go short.

If you think interest rates are going lower, then you want to be in REITs, dividend paying stocks, and bonds. If you want more risk, you go long growth stocks.Really? Is that what you think? So you are assuming interest rates are going to continue to go higher? How much higher and for how long? One thing that you seem to forget about loan participation funds is that they lend on a variable rate basis. So when rates are climbing they earn more income and thus pay higher dividends. Right? But there is more to the story. What about the borrowers? The companies that are healthy start taking their free cash flow and pay down the variable rate debt first. So you start getting more and more redemptions. What about the businesses that don't do so well and can't afford to pay off their variable rate debt? Well if rates keep climbing they go under and then you are left with some bankruptcies or loans in various stages of default.

It isn't all gravy Elvis. By the way, what is going to happen in late spring 2023? Year over year comparisons will start to decline. Because the base year month had the higher level of inflation. That is unless you think inflation is going to continue at 8+ percent into perpetuity. When rates start moderating, your loan particpation funds will start recording less earnings and therefore less dividends.


So now let us go over how fucking stupid your comment is about dividends in loan participation funds going down. The dividends go down when interest rates go down. Did you say that? No. Did you make a prediction based on interest rates? No. Do you know what the market is predicting with regards to interest rates in 2023 and 2024? No.
You are so fucking stupid that you make no case that loan participation dividends have to go down outside of your own fucking ego.

Yes Loan Participation Funds start paying smaller dividends when rates are coming down AND when they start recording large redemptions and defaults. Apparently you forgot about those factors. Which shouldn't be a surprise, since you were jumping up and down about some LPF that had rising dividends but also had a drop in share price. You then admitted you didn't even own it.

Do you own any LPCs?

I'll try to remind you of something. Calling someone, who doesn't agree with you a "fucking idiot" doesn't make your argument any stronger. It is the sign of someone who is uneducated and can't reason intelligently.

JustTK
11-24-22, 01:27
The food alone is worth the trip to CDMX.I am genuinely curious to know what folks find so great about Mexican food. I have tried it in many countries, and been to Mexico itself 5 or 6 times. Whenever I have Mexican food I always get the feeling the menu is just a study on how many different ways a restaurant can serve up 5 or 6 ingredients. Cheese / beans / tortilla / sour cream / pico / jalepenos. Plus it always tastes like fast food.

What am I missing?

Mtndew704
11-24-22, 16:10
I am genuinely curious to know what folks find so great about Mexican food. I have tried it in many countries, and been to Mexico itself 5 or 6 times. Whenever I have Mexican food I always get the feeling the menu is just a study on how many different ways a restaurant can serve up 5 or 6 ingredients. Cheese / beans / tortilla / sour cream / pico / jalepenos. Plus it always tastes like fast food.

What am I missing?I love tacos and all types of them so that's the biggest draw for me.

LoveItHere69
11-24-22, 17:13
Whenever I have Mexican food I always get the feeling the menu is just a study on how many different ways a restaurant can serve up 5 or 6 ingredients. Cheese / beans / tortilla / sour cream / pico / jalepenos. Plus it always tastes like fast food.

What am I missing?I think Italian food is worse because they change the shape of the pasta and give it a a new name like the shape of the pasta creates a new meal.

RamDavidson84
11-24-22, 18:36
I am genuinely curious to know what folks find so great about Mexican food. I have tried it in many countries, and been to Mexico itself 5 or 6 times. Whenever I have Mexican food I always get the feeling the menu is just a study on how many different ways a restaurant can serve up 5 or 6 ingredients. Cheese / beans / tortilla / sour cream / pico / jalepenos. Plus it always tastes like fast food.

What am I missing?Not much, do you really care about food on your travels or do you care about the girls? Personally I am much more concerned with the women and their attitudes / performance than I am the food. For the guy who wants the best vacation possible, I have found the better restaurants in Mexico to be superior to Colombias. They usually have fresher food, especially the avocado, better more professional service, nicer more upscale atmosphere, better presentation, and I genuinely enjoy Mexican cuisine very much. GDL has some great places on ave. Chapultepec. There is a really cool American Rock Bar that had great burgers and very cold satisfying Russian beers that I would recommend for any dude who enjoys a cold one. I think they were like 8-9% alcohol too. Listening to a bunch of Mexicans sing Guns and Roses is maybe my fondest memory of Mexico haha. I also loved the mini silver dollar tacos in Mexico City.

The main caveat here is you must know where to go. You can't just walk into any restaurant and expect it to be top notch in Mexico. When I really wanted a good meal which was maybe once or twice a week, I would ask around and get the name of a decent place and I was usually pretty satisfied. I made the mistake of ordering cheap food on both Rappi and Uber Eats in Mexico a few times, and it was sloppy cheap street food. Just a heads tip, don't waste your money with that stuff and make sure you only order from places with good reviews.

That being said, the food for me in Colombia is fine. I am a big fan of the Corral Restaurants, I usually get the Mexican burger and a fruit milkshake which is pretty good. I can say I was not at all impressed with the nicer restaurants in Cartagena, but at the end of the day its fine and it will not ruin your vacation or anything. The mall with the Bodytec gym in Cartagena has some good options, they just need to blast that AC a bit more, it always felt around 71-72 F and humid in the mall. At the lower end of Bocagrande, there was a cool themed Persian Restaurant where they had performers dress up like Persian dancers, and they had outstanding pina coladas, but food was meh. Still a cool time though. Sorry can't remember the name of the place.

Mr Enternational
11-25-22, 00:40
That being said, the food for me in Colombia is fine. I am a big fan of the Corral Restaurants, I usually get the Mexican burger and a fruit milkshake which is pretty good.I am dating a chick in law school in Bogota. She told me how good the street burgers were and that people from the coast make them the best. She had never been to El Corral. I took her there and it blew her mind. I said now what were you saying about those street burgers?

JustTK
11-25-22, 20:56
I think Italian food is worse because they change the shape of the pasta and give it a a new name like the shape of the pasta creates a new meal.You mean like spaghetti bolognese becomes fettuccine bolognese? Or fusulli bolognese? A good chef will tell you thiough that they choice of pasta is important to the dish.

Nounce
11-26-22, 16:21
... They usually have fresher food, especially the avocado, better more professional service, nicer more upscale atmosphere, better presentation, and I genuinely enjoy Mexican cuisine ...I will be surprised that they have better avocado. That is almost impossible, LOL.

It is not hard to find good food in Mexico. One can just go to a market and eat food that they make from fresh right in front of you.

LoveItHere69
11-26-22, 17:10
You mean like spaghetti bolognese becomes fettuccine bolognese? Or fusulli bolognese? A good chef will tell you thiough that they choice of pasta is important to the dish.Yeah. Round pasta is horrible, square pasta is bad, triangle pasta is ok, but spiral pasta is out of this world delicious. I ought to be a chef. So if I use different shaped bread buns for my hamburger it will also change the taste and my dining experience? That makes me think that the "Sliders" at White Castle are a delicacy.

Chefs will also tell you that glacial water is far superior in taste than iceberg water because it has been aged properly with the highest quality ingredients since it is closest to the source (clouds).

Elvis 2008
11-26-22, 17:33
That being said, the food for me in Colombia is fine. I am a big fan of the Corral Restaurants, I usually get the Mexican burger and a fruit milkshake which is pretty good. I can say I was not at all impressed with the nicer restaurants in Cartagena, but at the end of the day its fine and it will not ruin your vacation or anything. The mall with the Bodytec gym in Cartagena has some good options, they just need to blast that AC a bit more, it always felt around 71-72 F and humid in the mall. At the lower end of Bocagrande, there was a cool themed Persian Restaurant where they had performers dress up like Persian dancers, and they had outstanding pina coladas, but food was meh. Still a cool time though. Sorry can't remember the name of the place.Name of that restaurant is Persepolis.

And Corral is good too. I do actually like it better for a burger than the American chains. I will try the Mexican burger in the future. In Cartagena, they have a burger called the Costena which is really good as it has the taste of the region in it.

Elvis 2008
11-26-22, 19:41
I guess I could have anticipated your post. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is "fucking stupid or demented". I tried to explain to you that REITs have a wide variety of specializations. Some do well in some economic environments some do well in others. Only an uninformed blowhard would think that they all preform the same. Oh well, I guess it is impossible to enlighten someone who can't read. Really? Is that what you think? So you are assuming interest rates are going to continue to go higher? How much higher and for how long? One thing that you seem to forget about loan participation funds is that they lend on a variable rate basis. So when rates are climbing they earn more income and thus pay higher dividends. Right? But there is more to the story. What about the borrowers? The companies that are healthy start taking their free cash flow and pay down the variable rate debt first. So you start getting more and more redemptions. What about the businesses that don't do so well and can't afford to pay off their variable rate debt? Well if rates keep climbing they go under and then you are left with some bankruptcies or loans in various stages of default.Oh just stop. This is not a difference of an opinion. It is your sorry ass excuse for not buying loan participation funds when rates are going up. LPFs actually have lower downside dividend risk than REITs and REITs have more upside, and either you can figure that out or you are in denial. You were wrong not to have done bought LPFs because your income would have quadrupled, and you are not fooling me with your "I do not know what you own" bullshit. REIT index hit a 52 week low a few months ago, and you got killed.

And your doomsday scenario of businesses not paying their loans but continuing to pay their rents is another example of you being a fucking idiot.

Your problem is you read and imitate Buffett but you do not understand how there are differences between you and him. Here is a quote from him.

"There's nobody whose predictions on interest rates I would pay attention to, even myself, even Charlie. ".

And this is the philosophy you follow. Because no one knows what interest rates are going to do, you buy and hold. You think Buffett bought and held great companies like Coca Cola and Gillette and Wells Fargo and so will I but here is another Buffett quote.

The value of every business, the value of a farm, the value of an apartment, the value of any economic asset is 100% sensitive to interest rates. The higher interest rates are, the less that present value is going to be. Every business, whether it's Coca-Cola or Gillette or Wells Fargo its intrinsic valuation is 100% sensitive to interest rates.

What is different about this market is the Fed has been screaming and telegraphing their moves. Of course, Buffett is going to hold his stakes. He is going to get murdered if he tries to unwind his stakes now.

As for it not being all gravy, of course it is. If you know which way interest rates are going, you know where stocks are headed. Here is another Buffett quote:

If I could only pick one statistic to ask you about the future before I gave the answer, I would not ask you about GDP growth. I would not ask you about who was going to be president, or a million other things. I would ask you what the interest rate is going to be over the next 20 years on average.

And so this is another reason you are a fucking idiot. You think you are smart by doing what Buffett is doing instead of what Buffett would be doing if he were in your shoes. Of course, he would sell high and buy low if he could given this once in a decade opportunity.

And not only do you bring your dumb buy and hold philosophy to the long side, you think it applies to the short. Puts have a time limit on them and that is why you see a rapid push down and pull back pattern as the shorts buy and then sell. The greatest rallies occur in bear markets because the shorts cash in their puts. So an intelligent investor has to play the buy low, sell high game when going short.

Of course, you picked in the summer right in the middle of when the Fed was raising rates and at the peak of a bear market rally to put me down about how wrong I was and how smart you are. I bought low then and sold in October and did quite well thank you very much while you got killed. The Fed is not done raising rates so this is another bear market rally, and I am buying again.

And you have the 2-10 yield curve inversion.

https://mishtalk.com/economics/the-2-10-yield-curve-inversion-recession-signal-is-the-strongest-in-over-40-years

"Never before have we seen such strong inversions except right before or in recessions. ".

But none of this matters to you V, you think you are so smart because you are a buy and hold guy. Well, you were a buy and hold guy and then after I pointed out how dumb you were, you came up with this stupid measure of reconfiguring your portfolio. Why? So you take less of a loss versus going short and getting a gain? Buffett said all asset classes go down when interest rates are higher. Apparently, you think he is wrong.

And this is not a debate. It is why my portfolio is up and yours is down, and the reason is you are a fucking idiot. You held when the Fed was raising rates and you are holding right when the greatest indicator for a recession is flashing red.

Get together with your fellow long idiots and your finance professor and tell yourselves how smart you all are and how dumb I am. Console yourself with anything in the past. Remember how wrong Elvis was with his Covid predictions? Oh wait, you already did that. Well, do it again. That will make you feel better and relieve your anxiety a little.

Of course, it will not make you money. The one thing that would is if you pulled your collective heads out of your asses and realized you are not fighting me but fighting Buffett, fighting the Fed, and fighting the entire bond market and change your positions. But the best bet I wish I could make is against any of you doing that. You dummies think denial is a river in Egypt. This is not my first rodeo V. I see the same examples of human nature again and again.

Well, that is enough of an ass kicking for today. I bet you do not get half of what I said.

JustTK
11-27-22, 13:36
Yeah. Round pasta is horrible, square pasta is bad, triangle pasta is ok, but spiral pasta is out of this world delicious. I ought to be a chef. So if I use different shaped bread buns for my hamburger it will also change the taste and my dining experience? Thats correct. A burger tastes better with a proper bun w sesame seeds than in between 2 slices of cardboard white bread.

As for spagehetti, I have a soft spot for aphabetti spaghetti, and spaghetti hoops... It doesn't just taste great but is nutritious too; enriched with iron to support normal cognitive development, naturally low in fat...

Villainy
11-27-22, 19:46
Oh just stop. ......and you are not fooling me with your "I do not know what you own" bullshit. REIT index hit a 52 week low a few months ago, and you got killed.How many times can I say it. You can't read and your analytical skills are similar to those of a 5th grader.

You know why I didn't get killed, in fact am up nicely for the year?? It would take too much analytical skill from someone like you. So I'll just tell you.

A. I don't own the REIT index, I own specific REITs that I think were oversold and have great businesses.

B. I didn't own the 9 REITs I currently hold at the beginning of the year. I had only 1 to begin the year. The other 8 I bought mostly in the 2nd and 3rd quarter after I had seen them drop far more than was warranted.

C. Every one of the REITs I own have raised their dividend since I bought them and none have lowered their dividend.

So why not Loan Participation Funds? I don't think rates are going to continue to increase very far into the future. The brunt of the rate increases are behind us. Sure there are going to be a few more Fed funds rate increases but I see them stopping early to mid-year 2023 at the latest. The market is anticipatory and that is why you've seen a serious rally the last few weeks.


And your doomsday scenario of businesses not paying their loans but continuing to pay their rents is another example of you being a fucking idiot.No, Elvis. I'm sorry you still need to get your GED and then take a few college courses. Bonds have suffered for years when rates have increased. I don't just mean that their value has dropped (that is a given since rates and price have an inverse relationship). I'm talking about redemptions first and defaults second.

One of the considerations I evaluated prior to investing in one of the REITs I own was the quality of their tenants. So you see, the tenants in my REITs are high quality / high rated businesses. They don't take out variable rate loans and on the few occasions when they do. They pay them back immediately as rates start to drift upwards. So we just aren't talking about the same types of borrowers.


Your problem is you read and imitate Buffett but you do not understand how there are differences between you and him. Here is a quote from him.

"There's nobody whose predictions on interest rates I would pay attention to, even myself, even Charlie. ".I have to guess that he wouldn't think very much of your predictions on interest rates either. Especially if he knew what a analytical joke you were when it came to predicting the number of CoVid cases.


And this is the philosophy you follow. Because no one knows what interest rates are going to do, you buy and hold. You think Buffett bought and held great companies like Coca Cola and Gillette and Wells Fargo and so will I.If I were a lot younger I might indeed go that route. But I'm retired, I was delighted, no exhilarated to cash in some of my long held winners and start converting them into long-term quality dividend payers. Unlike you, I can read and I am certain that the individual REITs and dividend payers I selected will be increasing in value and raising their dividends irrespective of what happens to the economy in 2023 or beyond.


What is different about this market is the Fed has been screaming and telegraphing their moves.You just discovered it so it must be new?? The Fed has been announcing their rate decisions and publishing their reasoning for at least a decade.



Of course, you picked in the summer right in the middle of when the Fed was raising rates and at the peak of a bear market rally to put me down about how wrong I was and how smart you are. I bought low then and sold in October and did quite well thank you very much while you got killed. The Fed is not done raising rates so this is another bear market rally, and I am buying again.No, Elvis. I criticized you because you didn't make any of the trades you claim. It was all Monday morning quarterback blather. Just like the 2500% winner you claimed that you picked a while back.

Where is the evidence? It would be easy to prove you actually did what you said?? No. It is just all made up. Everyone knows you are, well, undereducated. You try your hardest to post rehashed articles that you read or saw to try to impress people. You did the same thing consistently during the CoVid pandemic. Now you are doing the same thing with investing. You're just a windbag.

Oh and by the way, if you think I am SO wrong in my investment selections, I would be glad, no delighted to list them for you so that you could short every single one of them.

LoveItHere69
11-27-22, 22:30
Corrections on your post.


I saw a drunk tourist on his first visit pull out his phone and show pics of FB chicas to multiple people while asking them about getting to Poblado. This kind of behaviour is appalling!First, of all you are wrong because I have read many posts from idiots stating there is no wrong way to monger. Second, Nounce is on some stupid crusade as of late and for God knows why to make sure we do not judge anyone so he will be posting shortly to question you about the definition of what "appalling" is.



Many SA chicas I have seen early in the year have now moved on to other (richer) daddies. *One explicitly told me that I cannot afford her since she is high maintenance despite me paying her generously by SA standards. She got 2 iphone 14 pros from one of her regular guys!This is also way wrong. So many idiot posters have repeatedly stated that 2 week millionaire and sugar daddy types do not have any effect on prices. You must have misunderstood what she was telling you.

RacShack
11-28-22, 02:39
Yes, In Mexico if you behave yourself, you will have no issues. In Colombia trouble can find you quickly, sorry it is true. Read the reports.

Obviously, not all the girls have good attitudes, but in general far better then the fat ass Colombian girls in MDE and the ones that travel to CDMX are even worse, They love to tell me how hot they are, and most I would not do for free. If I read anything about Colombia in Mexico instant block. Life is much better without there terrible attitudes.Really what about a major poster on CDMX John, the girl that poison him with chocolate was Colombian? Thanks I did not know that, hmmmmmmm, or does it happen in CDMX? Hmmmm.

RamDavidson84
11-28-22, 05:08
A certain discussion on the Medellin forum has prompted me to post this. I did not want to waste anymore space on the Medellin forum so I will post it to the wasteland known as "Stupid Shit in Medellin" LOL.

This is for anyone in the game, young or old, Pro or Rookie, sloppy or fit, sharp or dull. This is for you. A monger should view himself like a prize fighter. You should look at your travels as a career. The goal of a fighter's career is not just to be the champ. It is to maximize your earnings while minimizing potential risk and damage as much as possible. Longevity is key. As a monger, your career will last longer and you will maximize the number of beautiful women you enjoy your time with before your little dick goes limp. This means choosing wisely the girls you decide to partner with. Do you want the full time 40 year old pro who just serviced a dozen cocks before you, or do you want the weekend warrior who is just trying to make a quick buck to pay off some bills? Always strive for the latter, she has less mileage and is the healthier option. You will not always achieve that goal, so enjoy it when you do.

Just like a fighter can only take so many punches, a monger can only handle so many viral or bacterial infections before his immune system is permanently damaged or worse. If your immune system or other vital organs are damaged from years of abuse, don't expect to enjoy your time as much. Expect to be sick more often and more severely. This means, wrap your fucking dick up. If your dick goes in a pussy, don't be a dirt bag and put a fucking condom on it. And if this is just out of the question for you, at least get tested regularly. This also means, you must learn how to pace yourself even if you can afford all the goodies in the candy store. Learn how to be content with one girl a night, weekend, or even vacation. In the long run, you will be happier and not become desensitized to the ludicris amount of pussy out there. Same goes for drug and drink. Pace yourself for 15 rounds, fight 12, and keep 3 in the bank for emergencies. Trust me on that one, you never know.

A fighter wants the weakest fighter who will make him the most money. It must be the right opponent, at the right time, at the right price, at the right location. That is the sweet spot, we call this "easy money". For a monger, find the girl who you enjoy the most at a price you are comfortable with who poses the least risk. Everyone will differ a bit here, but you need to find that sweet spot for yourself. Don't pursue that hard money. Personally I am not going after the $500 an hour instagram model who is probably going to give me shitty service. The risk to reward is not cost effective for me. I would much rather pursue a cheaper option whose potential to fulfill my level is satisfaction is much higher. Also decide wisely on the location of your dance. Do you really want to bring them all back to your hotel for reception to see all night? Is the back room at the strip club more convenient? Is the cheap love motel across town at 3 am Really worth it? These are decisions you should contemplate before hand and have planned out. Again, use logical risk-reward thinking when making these decisions, you can save yourself a lot of time, trouble, and money by choosing the best location for a particular situation.

A fighter must study his opponent. Preparation is key. This is a very underrated aspect of the game. You should be researching before your trip. Study the language of the country you will be visiting. Study the price of service, lodging, transportation, etc. Most importantly, study the possible dangers of the area you will be mongering in. Is this place known for mugging, pick pockets, drugging, police shake downs, etc. Make yourself aware of all possible worst case scenarios and then develop a game plan to deal with them. I also advocate to study the maps of the cities you will be visiting, I can't express how many times that has helped me out of a sticky situation.

Just like a fighter must build a report with his fans, a monger should leave a positive impression on both the women he interacts with as well as anyone in the local community. A monger should conduct himself with social grace and class in public at all times. Do not be that obnoxious privileged foreigner who compensates for all his failures by throwing money around in a poor nation and trying to "big man" his way through his trip. Nothing looks more pathetic to the locals and will leave them with a lasting negative impression of foreign tourists. At the very least, just keep your head down and go unnoticed.

Follow these rules and you will maximize your potential, longevity, and level of satisfaction. No matter your wins and losses in this game, always know the memories are yours and nothing in this world can take those away.

Take all this with a grain of salt and I hope this post helps a few of you out there.

JjBee62
11-28-22, 09:34
Corrections on your post.

First, of all you are wrong because I have read many posts from idiots stating there is no wrong way to monger. Second, Nounce is on some stupid crusade as of late and for God knows why to make sure we do not judge anyone so he will be posting shortly to question you about the definition of what "appalling" is.

This is also way wrong. So many idiot posters have repeatedly stated that 2 week millionaire and sugar daddy types do not have any effect on prices. You must have misunderstood what she was telling you.What type of crusade are you on?

Showing pictures of girls and talking loudly about paying for sex in a public place isn't mongering. It's just someone without a clue behaving badly.

If the way that you monger works for you, then it works for you. If someone else does things differently and it works for them, then it works. In that way, whatever way a person uses is acceptable, if it works for them. However, the laws in Colombia and in most other countries clearly define some wrong ways to monger.

Your second comment is just as silly as the first one. Two week millionaires and sugar daddies do have an effect on prices, of individual women. If a girl has a guy paying her 500 k and up every day, she's probably not interested in taking 30 k from someone else. It's exactly the same as what happened when my boss gave me a 40% pay raise early this year. He changed the amount of money it will cost another employer to gain my services, but he didn't change the pay scale for everyone else.

There might be 100,000 women in Medellin who will accept some form of payment for sex. A handful of gringos who visit a few times per year won't cause all of them to double or triple their prices.

I'll simplify it.

If a girl is making enough money to support herself and her family, she doesn't need to fuck every random asshole who waves a few dollars at her. If a girl has no money for food and the kids need medicine, then she's going to do whatever it takes to get the money she needs.

Knowledge
11-28-22, 16:22
I think you points are valid and I appreciate that you made them without calling anyone an idiot.


What type of crusade are you on?

Showing pictures of girls and talking loudly about paying for sex in a public place isn't mongering. It's just someone without a clue behaving badly.

If the way that you monger works for you, then it works for you. If someone else does things differently and it works for them, then it works. In that way, whatever way a person uses is acceptable, if it works for them. However, the laws in Colombia and in most other countries clearly define some wrong ways to monger.

Your second comment is just as silly as the first one. Two week millionaires and sugar daddies do have an effect on prices, of individual women. If a girl has a guy paying her 500 k and up every day, she's probably not interested in taking 30 k from someone else. It's exactly the same as what happened when my boss gave me a 40% pay raise early this year. He changed the amount of money it will cost another employer to gain my services, but he didn't change the pay scale for everyone else..

JjBee62
11-28-22, 16:51
I think you points are valid and I appreciate that you made them without calling anyone an idiot.Baby steps, I'm trying to be less of an asshole without losing my assholish charm.

MiamiBoy1
11-28-22, 16:54
Why don't you end your never ending battle that has nothing to do with mongering or Medellin or keep fighting via PM?

This is not a freaking investment forum, jeez. Nobody gives a fuck about your investment strategies

JjBee62
11-28-22, 17:21
How many times can I say it. You can't read and your analytical skills are similar to those of a 5th grader.

You know why I didn't get killed, in fact am up nicely for the year?? It would take too much analytical skill from someone like you. So I'll just tell you.

A. I don't own the REIT index, I own specific REITs that I think were oversold and have great businesses.

B. I didn't own the 9 REITs I currently hold at the beginning of the year. I had only 1 to begin the year. The other 8 I bought mostly in the 2nd and 3rd quarter after I had seen them drop far more than was warranted.

C. Every one of the REITs I own have raised their dividend since I bought them and none have lowered their dividend.

So why not Loan Participation Funds? I don't think rates are going to continue to increase very far into the future. The brunt of the rate increases are behind us. Sure there are going to be a few more Fed funds rate increases but I see them stopping early to mid-year 2023 at the latest. The market is anticipatory and that is why you've seen a serious rally the last few weeks.

No, Elvis. I'm sorry you still need to get your GED and then take a few college courses. Bonds have suffered for years when rates have increased. I don't just mean that their value has dropped (that is a given since rates and price have an inverse relationship). I'm talking about redemptions first and defaults second.

One of the considerations I evaluated prior to investing in one of the REITs I own was the quality of their tenants. So you see, the tenants in my REITs are high quality / high rated businesses. They don't take out variable rate loans and on the few occasions when they do. They pay them back immediately as rates start to drift upwards. So we just aren't talking about the same types of borrowers.

I have to guess that he wouldn't think very much of your predictions on interest rates either. Especially if he knew what a analytical joke you were when it came to predicting the number of CoVid cases.

If I were a lot younger I might indeed go that route. But I'm retired, I was delighted, no exhilarated to cash in some of my long held winners and start converting them into long-term quality dividend payers. Unlike you, I can read and I am certain that the individual REITs and dividend payers I selected will be increasing in value and raising their dividends irrespective of what happens to the economy in 2023 or beyond.

You just discovered it so it must be new?? The Fed has been announcing their rate decisions and publishing their reasoning for at least a decade.

No, Elvis. I criticized you because you didn't make any of the trades you claim. It was all Monday morning quarterback blather. Just like the 2500% winner you claimed that you picked a while back.

Where is the evidence? It would be easy to prove you actually did what you said?? No. It is just all made up. Everyone knows you are, well, undereducated. You try your hardest to post rehashed articles that you read or saw to try to impress people. You did the same thing consistently during the CoVid pandemic. Now you are doing the same thing with investing. You're just a windbag.

Oh and by the way, if you think I am SO wrong in my investment selections, I would be glad, no delighted to list them for you so that you could short every single one of them.This is completely unrelated, topically, but there's an essential similarity you might appreciate.

At the family Thanksgiving dinner one of my relatives, after another relative arrived to provide moral support, started on a rant about electric vehicles and alternative energy. I ignored it, because it's not worth trying to explain the concept of incremental change to someone who can't grasp the concept.

Then he guaranteed that "every one of those wind turbines holds 30,000 gallons of oil. " I didn't say anything, just gave him a look. After he tried to argue his point, I just said, "I'm pretty sure that's not right" and reached for my phone. End of conversation.

For the record, the largest wind turbines have about 370 gallons of oil in the main gearbox. There are also a few smaller oil sumps for blade pitch control gears and bearings, and current lubricants are good for 7-10 years.

I sent him that information along with an excellent article on the subject from ExxonMobil (who are thrilled about the future of wind energy). No reply.

I'll let you get back to the financial disclosure forms and will hit you up in a few weeks for lunch.

SankarShetty
11-28-22, 19:17
What type of crusade are you on?

Showing pictures of girls and talking loudly about paying for sex in a public place isn't mongering. It's just someone without a clue behaving badly.

Its not just about any public place. Its not Calle 10. Its the freaking immigration line for extranjeros!!




Your second comment is just as silly as the first one. Two week millionaires and sugar daddies do have an effect on prices, of individual women. If a girl has a guy paying her 500 k and up every day, she's probably not interested in taking 30 k from someone else. It's exactly the same as what happened when my boss gave me a 40% pay raise early this year. He changed the amount of money it will cost another employer to gain my services, but he didn't change the pay scale for everyone else.

There might be 100,000 women in Medellin who will accept some form of payment for sex. A handful of gringos who visit a few times per year won't cause all of them to double or triple their prices.

I'll simplify it.

If a girl is making enough money to support herself and her family, she doesn't need to fuck every random asshole who waves a few dollars at her. If a girl has no money for food and the kids need medicine, then she's going to do whatever it takes to get the money she needs.I do believe weekend millionaires do have an effect. Roughly about 2 k active profiles (logged within the past 2 months) on SA Med, therefore, as more tourists come so will the price move, both PPM and overnights. What I found fascinating was sheer number of students / office chicas on monthly or weekly support and showing off expensive gifts like phones and bikes. SA gringos are burning cash in style. Hehehe.

ChuchoLoco
11-28-22, 19:27
Why don't you end your never ending battle that has nothing to do with mongering or Medellin or keep fighting via PM?

This is not a freaking investment forum, jeez. Nobody gives a fuck about your investment strategiesYou read my mind and that of many others here MB1! I think they should kiss and makeup. That could be a whole new topic of discussion.

LoveItHere69
11-28-22, 21:23
What type of crusade are you on?

Showing pictures of girls and talking loudly about paying for sex in a public place isn't mongering. It's just someone without a clue behaving badly.

It was a joke! The "idiots" part was the clue like a double negative. You say showing pix of girls and talking about sex in public is not mongering. Disagree because he could be indirectly trying to chat a guy up to find a fellow monger to get info on women or hoping some girl who needs money will overhear him and approach him. Slim and not likely so I give you that. But his public stupidity and the more and more guys showing this behavior affects ALL us mongers in a negative way even if we are simple tourists. Locals will stereotype all foreigners as sex tourists. Whether he was mongering or not was not the main point. The main point was he was announcing he was a monger to an audience that was I am sure a very high majority of non-mongers. That is a huge problem for everyone on this site.

SankarShetty's post is another example that there is in fact bad ways to monger (and / or be a monger) and overpaying does effect others. I have posted about it several times using others tourist reports as proof per their observations.

Elvis 2008
11-28-22, 22:57
Why don't you end your never ending battle that has nothing to do with mongering or Medellin or keep fighting via PM?

This is not a freaking investment forum, jeez. Nobody gives a fuck about your investment strategiesI feel sorry for you Miami Boy. You must have had one of your so called sugar babies tape you to the monitor and force you to read this thread. If not, then what are you mouthing off about it? Maybe you can join one of those cancel culture outlets and scroll around all day and read something that offends you and pisses you off and gets someone cancelled. Maybe you can get paid for your bitching then.

This is called the stupid shit thread, junior, and this is some of the stupidest shit there is.

Mtndew704
11-29-22, 00:12
I got my balls out for Medellin.

Villainy
11-29-22, 00:44
Why don't you end your never ending battle that has nothing to do with mongering or Medellin or keep fighting via PM?

This is not a freaking investment forum, jeez. Nobody gives a fuck about your investment strategies


You read my mind and that of many others here MB1! I think they should kiss and makeup. That could be a whole new topic of discussion.


I feel sorry for you Miami Boy. You must have had one of your so called sugar babies tape you to the monitor and force you to read this thread. If not, then what are you mouthing off about it? Maybe you can join one of those cancel culture outlets and scroll around all day and read something that offends you and pisses you off and gets someone cancelled. Maybe you can get paid for your bitching then.

This is called the stupid shit thread, junior, and this is some of the stupidest shit there is.It pains me to no end to agree with Elvis. But when we want your opinion MB1 & CL. we'll give it to you.

Mr Enternational
11-29-22, 03:06
At the family Thanksgiving dinner one of my relatives, after another relative arrived to provide moral support, started on a rant about electric vehicles and alternative energy.
I sent him that information along with an excellent article on the subject from ExxonMobil (who are thrilled about the future of wind energy). No reply.
Did you also send him something saying how bad the making of lithium batteries is for the environment? We got talked into fossil fuels because they convinced everyone how the horse shit all over the place was bad for the environment. Now we are being talked into lithium because the fossil fuel is bad for the environment. We just go from one bad thing to another bad thing. Just a matter of convincing people (first worlders) how bad the current bad thing is.

JjBee62
11-29-22, 05:23
Its not just about any public place. Its not Calle 10. Its the freaking immigration line for extranjeros!!

I do believe weekend millionaires do have an effect. Roughly about 2 k active profiles (logged within the past 2 months) on SA Med, therefore, as more tourists come so will the price move, both PPM and overnights. What I found fascinating was sheer number of students / office chicas on monthly or weekly support and showing off expensive gifts like phones and bikes. SA gringos are burning cash in style. Hehehe.Sure. But SA makes up a tiny percentage of the available women. Same thing with Gusto girls. If you go on SA, you'll probably be paying SA prices. If you go to Gusto, you'll probably be paying Gusto prices. If you go to Botero Plaza, what someone spent in Gusto last night has no effect on the price you'll pay.

ChuchoLoco
11-29-22, 16:54
It pains me to no end to agree with Elvis. But when we want your opinion MB1 & CL. we'll give it to you.Thanks for the kind offer V but no thanks. However it's nice to see you two agree on something even if it's painful, It's progress.

JjBee62
11-29-22, 19:04
Did you also send him something saying how bad the making of lithium batteries is for the environment? We got talked into fossil fuels because they convinced everyone how the horse shit all over the place was bad for the environment. Now we are being talked into lithium because the fossil fuel is bad for the environment. We just go from one bad thing to another bad thing. Just a matter of convincing people (first worlders) how bad the current bad thing is.No. And no, we didn't get talked into fossil fuels as a replacement for horses because of horseshit.

Quantitatively, which is worse for the environment, making lithium-ion batteries, or burning about 3 trillion gallons of gas and diesel each year? Don't forget that, once a battery is made, it's environmental impact is negligible until it needs to be disposed.

I'm surprised you didn't mention that our current electric grid can't handle charging 150 million electric vehicles.

It's how progress works. It's also how capitalism works. Choose which one you want to get rid of.

Progress finds a better way, without considering there's always a downside to change. Often we make things worse to make things better. Think of the impact of building a national network of highways. Was it worth it? In 1919 the Army sent a convoy from Washington DC to San Francisco, to test cross country travel capabilities. It took 62 days. Today I could do the trip in 3 days by car, or 4 days by truck (legally). In 1927 it took 33 hours for 1 man to fly from NYC to Paris. Today it takes 7 hours and costs less than $500 and thousands make the trip daily. If you're going to throw out the environmental impact of making lithium-ion batteries, I expect you to throw away your cellphones, laptops and tablets. While you're at it, you shouldn't be flying anywhere from now on. Yeah. Them damn aircraft manufacturers have been busy switching to Lithium-ion batteries, because they're lighter and more cost effective.

Capitalism then? The reason cars replaced horses is because some smart capitalists quickly realized there was a lot more profit opportunities in automobiles. Same reason trains replaced barges on canals. Same reason why every auto manufacturer is advertising their electric vehicles. Profit. We've had the technology to build electric vehicles for 60 years. Now there's a market. Toyota proved there was money in the hybrid market 25 years ago. It had nothing to do with a bunch of tree huggers singing "Kumbayah" and handing out flowers. It all came from a bunch of rich Japanese guys who realized they could make more money by adding a hybrid.

Progress goes nowhere if there's no profit in it.

It's always been the same strategy. It's disappointing so few people can see through it. Sure making batteries isn't environmentally friendly. Neither is drilling, transporting, refining and burning oil.

RamDavidson84
11-29-22, 21:26
Did you also send him something saying how bad the making of lithium batteries is for the environment? We got talked into fossil fuels because they convinced everyone how the horse shit all over the place was bad for the environment. Now we are being talked into lithium because the fossil fuel is bad for the environment. We just go from one bad thing to another bad thing. Just a matter of convincing people (first worlders) how bad the current bad thing is.At least electric is cheaper. I heard from a friend, gas is up to 8. 00 $ a gallon in some parts of California. Charge times still suck though.

PigSavinBoy
11-29-22, 23:38
So, how often do the Medellin working women actually work, aka fuck?

My fucks per month guestimates:

Centro SW: 15-40.

Centro casa girl: 15-50.

Centro stripper: 10-20.

FB chica: 5-15.

One Centro SW once told me (out of the blue) that she slept with 120 men (and was extremely curious how many women did I sleep with; told her she was my first of course).

Knowing women, the real number is probably x2 or more, though I was surprised she was even counting at that point.

She was 21 at the time, worked every day 2 pm until 6 pm except Sunday and seemed to have at least one client every day. So that is at least 26 fucks per month, which, assuming 40 mil per fuck, adds up to the minimum wage of 1 k mil, for the total of 13 hours time spent on the back.

Mr Enternational
11-30-22, 05:09
So, how often do the Medellin working women actually work, aka fuck? My fucks per month guestimates:What difference does it make? Are you also guesstimating how many cars your mechanic works on in 1 month? I am there to get the service that I need, not to worry about any other work they are doing.

Mr Enternational
11-30-22, 05:16
At least electric is cheaper. I heard from a friend, gas is up to 8. 00 $ a gallon in some parts of California.But that is due to taxes. Oil is a commodity that you can look up the price of everyday. You think once they coax everyone into electric vehicles they are not going to find some way to tax them to maintain or increase that tax revenue? Like they are just going to lose out on that gasoline tax money. Stop concentrating on the trees and back up and look at the forest.

Mr Enternational
11-30-22, 05:33
Progress finds a better way, without considering there's always a downside to change."Progress" also depends on who pays politicians the most. Here in Thailand weed was just legalized in June. Now they are talking about making it illegal again. They are spouting how bad it is for you with no mention of how bad cigarettes and alcohol are. Why shouldn't those products be made illegal too? Every Joe and their brother are out selling weed on each corner unlike cigarettes which are sold in stores where the tax money is easily tracked.

In the States once upon a time street cars were the thing. They were very economical and environmentally friendly. But I think it was the rubber companies that were not having that. They wanted to sell more tires so they made those street cars disappear. Progress is not always progress. A lot of times it is just corporations trying to increase profits.

JustTK
11-30-22, 15:38
So, how often do the Medellin working women actually work, aka fuck?

My fucks per month guestimates:
I am curious to know why you think it's important. If you want a virgin, you can go to church, or go to the Phils and pick a cherry girl. If you want a girl tat knows what she is doing, surely you want one with a lot of experience? A few years under her anus, and plenty of rimming.

PigSavinBoy
11-30-22, 16:28
What difference does it make?
I am curious to know why you think it's important. If you want a virgin, you can go to church, or go to the Phils and pick a cherry girl. If you want a girl tat knows what she is doing, surely you want one with a lot of experience? A few years under her anus, and plenty of rimming.Planning to open a bordello and considering the potential profitability LOL.

Seriously though makes no difference to me and I don't consider it important when choosing a girl (unless she's a cherry of course), nor do I ask them about it; just killing some time at work and for some reason started to wonder how much do the girls actually make per month, and whether it's a good salary (locally). So to get an idea of that I figure it could be approximated from the average numbers of monthly fucks.

And I do agree, I'd rather get in with a girl with some experience under her belt, same as I'd rather hire an experienced electrician not someone fresh out of school.

JjBee62
11-30-22, 19:32
"Progress" also depends on who pays politicians the most. Here in Thailand weed was just legalized in June. Now they are talking about making it illegal again. They are spouting how bad it is for you with no mention of how bad cigarettes and alcohol are. Why shouldn't those products be made illegal too? Every Joe and their brother are out selling weed on each corner unlike cigarettes which are sold in stores where the tax money is easily tracked.

In the States once upon a time street cars were the thing. They were very economical and environmentally friendly. But I think it was the rubber companies that were not having that. They wanted to sell more tires so they made those street cars disappear. Progress is not always progress. A lot of times it is just corporations trying to increase profits.Everything is corporations trying to increase profits. If they could make an 80% net profit on them Hobby Lobby would be selling DIY Home Abortion Kits. The greenest company would be barbecuing bald eagles if it increased profits.

Had me confused for a second until I realized you were talking about streetcars. With only a few exceptions, public transportation in the US sucks. But that's one of those evil socialism things. Using tax money to provide low cost transportation, even if eventually it will pay for itself, isn't popular with many.

JjBee62
11-30-22, 19:45
But that is due to taxes. Oil is a commodity that you can look up the price of everyday. You think once they coax everyone into electric vehicles they are not going to find some way to tax them to maintain or increase that tax revenue? Like they are just going to lose out on that gasoline tax money. Stop concentrating on the trees and back up and look at the forest.They already are. Look at your home electric bill.

Forget about the price of gasoline. Gasoline is mainly for entertainment. The country runs on diesel. I drive more than most and I'll probably buy about 400 gallons of gasoline this year. I've already bought over 20,000 gallons of diesel. That's just 1 truck.

JustTK
11-30-22, 21:23
Planning to open a bordello and considering the potential profitability LOL.
That thought has crossed my mind from time to time too. I wonder how much under the table you'd need to fork out though. You'd have to choose a good front woman with wide hips for you to hide behind.

RamDavidson84
11-30-22, 21:53
But that is due to taxes. Oil is a commodity that you can look up the price of everyday. You think once they coax everyone into electric vehicles they are not going to find some way to tax them to maintain or increase that tax revenue? Like they are just going to lose out on that gasoline tax money. Stop concentrating on the trees and back up and look at the forest.I think a lot of it is also supply and demand. There is only a few decades of affordable oil left, whether we use it for gas, diesel, plastic, etc. It all comes from crude oil. You don't want to be the last nation to convert its economy to run off electricity when the price of oil shoots up due to limited supply. I am not saying saying electric cars are perfect for the environment, but as of now it seems to be the future.

I could never or want to imagine an America where the predominant form of personal travel is public transportation. The convenience of the personal automobile is something I don't mind working a extra few hours for, I think most Americans would agree as well.

PigSavinBoy
11-30-22, 22:03
That thought has crossed my mind from time to time too. I wonder how much under the table you'd need to fork out though. You'd have to choose a good front woman with wide hips for you to hide behind.Yes, a silent partner hidden deep under her skirt. One does not simply walk into Mordor.

In this hypothetical scenario she would already need to be plugged in and knowing all the right people and proper amounts that don't set anyone accidentally on fire or make one slip and fall on a knife several times.

Mr Enternational
12-01-22, 03:47
You don't want to be the last nation to convert its economy to run off electricity when the price of oil shoots up due to limited supply.And where does the electricity come from? From the same shit they are telling us we need to stop using. Most of it is not solar, wind, hydro, or nuclear (and even the waste from those create a mess when it needs to be disposed of). People are being sold a bunch of rainbows and unicorns and bullshit. Most politicians are dumb asses anyway. Hello. Vote for me. I want to make rules on something I do not know shit about.

Mr Enternational
12-01-22, 07:55
Yes, a silent partner hidden deep under her skirt. One does not simply walk into Mordor.

In this hypothetical scenario she would already need to be plugged in and knowing all the right people and proper amounts that don't set anyone accidentally on fire or make one slip and fall on a knife several times.In that case seems she would just go into business for herself. What would she need you for?

Elvis 2008
12-02-22, 17:19
Where is the evidence? It would be easy to prove you actually did what you said?? No. It is just all made up. Everyone knows you are, well, undereducated. You try your hardest to post rehashed articles that you read or saw to try to impress people. You did the same thing consistently during the CoVid pandemic. Now you are doing the same thing with investing. You're just a windbag.
Probably the worst of the Covid thing was when JJBee called me a narcissist on the subject. I could see why. I thought and still think I was as smart as Fauci when it came to decision making. Of course, that is a misnomer. He did not know what to do and neither did I. The difference in our approaches would have been I would have taken a do no harm approach first as opposed to doing something just to show I cared.

A better way to have put it was that I was just as dumb as Fauci and so were you and everyone else here, and that is not narcissistic; that is fact.

The problem with Democratic douches like yourself is that you pay off and deify someone with the title of "scientist", and we are supposed to follow everything that person says and damn the data or in this case, pretend there was data.

What played out is that Trump listened to Xi in China said "he is my friend" and believed him when Xi said Covid was contained. Josh Rogin of the Washington Post said this on Joe Rogan's show and Joe Rogan groaned and so did I. I had little doubt that this happened as it sounded just like something Trump would do.

And your being a Democratic douche, V, I expect you to believe that too. What you will not believe is that Fauci pretty much did the same thing. He sent one guy to China and crafted policy based on what China was doing and what they told his guy.

You douches seem to recall my saying the virus would kill 80,000. What you forget was that was based on the curve of the initial variant. When that trend was broken, I concluded way before anyone else that the virus had changed. Back then, your douche paper of record the NYT was breathlessly pointing out all the countries which handled Covid better than the USA. I said of those countries "just you wait, they will get hit too", and they were. In fact, China's policy of lockdowns is blowing up in their face just as it did in Colombia.

Even now even with the evidence that the only thing severe lockdowns do is create riots you Democratic douches all would have us go into lockdowns if Covid surged again. Hell, with you douches, lockdowns were not the greatest health policy debacle ever. No, they would have worked if Republicans (and Colombians) had been more compliant.

Of course, the data says otherwise, and my articles were data reliant. It is no wonder you were intimidated by them. You had no answer for them but arrogance.

And your douchery shows its ways with investing as well. It is Democratic douches like yourself who make the claim, "everyone knows you are undereducated. " That is as delusional a statement as one can make. First, do you have any data showing education levels equals better market performance? Of course not. Peter Lynch said that investing is more about the stomach than the brain, and I agree with that.

And despite the fact that I have said why I made 2500% in one stock is irrelevant to our current discussion, you dismiss it out of hand. Why? You have no data to say otherwise. You just do not want to believe it.

And finally, the people on ISG who have met me would very much dispute the education level comment not that it means anything outside of showing you are a douche who think your education level somehow means you are more likely to be correct about something. It is irrelevant to investing as all that matters with investing once again is data.

Speaking of irrational, a friend showed me his newsletter and was disappointed when I suggest he throw it in the trash. All the 2022 picks were in the red, and he gave an overly rosy S&P 500 prediction. My friend knows logistics and was certain companies he bought in the field were going up. After the market went sky high after the Fed press conference, a total nothingburger IMO, he called me up and said I told you so.

Maybe you have learned something V because you did not take the occasion to beat your chest. I agree with your prediction on interest rates and more importantly so do those who buy and sell Fed fund futures, however, you did what you always do and ignored the huge elephant or in this case bear in the room, the inverted yield curve. The traders and investors on CNBC's Fast Money are not as blind as you. They had on an economist who pointed out how the yield curve inversion and a few other markers always point to recession. There was then a healthy debate on which to listen to the sunny stock market or gloomy bond market and of some market tailwinds but no one dismissed the bond market and the overwhelming response for those invested dare I say consensus was to take profits in stocks, keep your powder dry, and listen to the bond market. In fact, all the Fast Money traders heard the same old nothing new message from the Fed as I did.

And I suspect you already know what my response would have been had you beaten your chest. Yes, I bought SQQQ at $45 and am looking to add more at $40. If we have another market decline I will unload some and look to buy more on the cheap. And when we hit the inevitable recession, I will unload it for good. That is my market strategy. And when the recession hits and the market hits its inevitable decline, then I will look at fixed income vehicle like REITs. It is not the right time for REITs. Stocks hit their bottom when the Fed finishes raising rates.

So you are not totally wrong V. You are just early and just as I saw all the investments the newsletter picked out in 2022, I know your investments went down too. If you were not short and had more than one stock like Dollar General, you were down. Still, if you had a brain, you would look at this Fed induced rally to take some profits on your REITs and look to get back into them at a later time. Maybe even (Gasp) go short for a change.

And enough with this quality shit. Microsoft is a quality company and they pulled out of real estate and selling items in Microsoft stores. The whole notion than that you REITs have quality companies paying rents is ludicrous then. The real issue is not the company's quality but how dependent they are on having a physical location. The pandemic changed that metric for many businesses.

And no doubt if you applied your quality model to airlines, you would have put your nose up at Spirit. It is at $21.25 a share and has a shareholder accepted offer of $33.50 per share from Jet Blue. If the deal is blocked for antitrust reasons, JetBlue will pay Spirit a $70 million reverse breakup fee and will pay Spirit's shareholders $400 million. So the airline that is the worst quality wise has the greatest room to advance in the near term. Stocks are either over, fairly, or undervalued and the market may give a higher multiple for "quality" but that is all that it means.

MarquisdeSade1
12-13-22, 04:46
https://dailystormer.in/georgia-man-kills-ex-wifes-divorce-lawyer-sets-law-office-on-fire-internet-people-cheer/

Igor54
12-14-22, 04:07
Not sure what you meant by saying I treat 5 and 10 the same. I only apply 1 to 10 scale to the looks, not performance, and I would not even touch a girl that doesn't meet my minimum standards (7/10) looks wise. I have never used 1-10 performance scale, and never seen it used, because it varies a lot. The exact same girl may be great in bed one day, and a total disaster the other day for various reasons (sick, grandma just passed, etc). She may be great in bed with me, but suck with you, or vice versa, depending on chemistry. So it makes no sense to use 1-10 scale to assess performance, unless you do it only for yourself. Wine and dine, yes, I like it, but it also helps building rapport which leads to a better performance after. Who doesn't like to eat good food, drink and have fun?

And speaking of performance again, my personal assessment would be as follows. Will I repeat with her? If not, I will move on. If yes, was the sex good or amazing? Obviously, an ideal scenario is a hot girl, 8+ that provides an amazing sex, but I will take a solid 7-7. 5 that does the same any day rather than a hotter girl that is average or just above average in bed. I won't repeat with any girl whose performance sucks, no matter how hot she is. Amazing sex with 7 and good sex with 8 or 9 would probably be a tie, but in this case I will definitely be focusing on a hotter girl, building a better rapport with her, so that the sex upgrades from good to amazing.My young friends, everything depends on the tension. What is today 5/10 tomorrow could be 9/10 if you need it badly. Everything is subjective. Read something on psychology or wikipedia.

CenTexCrash
12-14-22, 05:00
Went to Luna Lunera with a few ISGers. First guy took a girl in, asked him after he said it was 250 k and what included. Was itching for my turn but with different girl, no we weren't tunnel buddies albeit the option was very well there.

Paid the house staff for the session and took her upstairs.

It was a great session, then finished in room she wanted a propina. This caught me off guard first guy didn't mention that part. All I had was a 50 k note. Sure it didn't break my bank but did catch me off guard, not sure if it's mandatory or she marked me as a gringo.

(For those keeping score, two other ISGers did their civic duty instead of taking her upstairs at club rates got her personal WhatsApp to meet her outside of club hours / rates).

Huacho
12-14-22, 14:35
It was a great session, then finished in room she wanted a propina. This caught me off guard first guy didn't mention that part. All I had was a 50 k note. Sure it didn't break my bank but did catch me off guard, not sure if it's mandatory or she marked me as a gringo.Of course it's not mandatory and of course she marked you as a gringo. Grow a pair and 'just say no. '.

Mr Enternational
12-14-22, 16:01
Went to Luna Lunera with a few ISGers. First guy took a girl in, asked him after he said it was 250 k and what included. Was itching for my turn but with different girl, no we weren't tunnel buddies albeit the option was very well there.

It was a great session, then finished in room she wanted a propina. This caught me off guard first guy didn't mention that part. All I had was a 50 k note. Sure it didn't break my bank but did catch me off guard, not sure if it's mandatory or she marked me as a gringo.If it was mandatory it would not be called a tip. Service charge maybe? You are a foreigner and foreigners are known to give out extra money for no apparent reason. She would be a fool not to ask, because maybe it just slipped your mind. Try saying no. The more you do it, the easier it gets.

Pro "tip": And if you only had a 50 there is nothing wrong with asking for change!

MiamiBoy1
12-14-22, 21:47
My young friends, everything depends on the tension. What is today 5/10 tomorrow could be 9/10 if you need it badly. Everything is subjective. Read something on psychology or wikipedia.You, and some other posters, fail to understand the 1. 10 scale concept. If I rate a girl 7, or whatever number, she is a 7 to me no matter how badly I want to fuck. What changes is the amount of money I'm willing to pay to fuck her, or the amount of time I'm willing to spend with her. Just because I have blue balls doesn't mean she automatically turns into a 9, but if I'm desperate or have no other options, I will gladly do a 7, because she meets my minimum requirements.

5/10 and 9/10 are completely different leagues, and a 5 will never become a 9, period. I'm tired to repeat the same stuff all over again. Feel free to not use the 1-10 scale if you feel like it is useless.

Mr Enternational
12-14-22, 22:49
5/10 and 9/10 are completely different leagues, and a 5 will never become a 9, period. Unless you are judging naked with no makeup and hair pulled back I would beg to differ. And there are tons of transformation videos on the internet that would agree.

MiamiBoy1
12-15-22, 01:35
Unless you are judging naked with no makeup and hair pulled back I would beg to differ. And there are tons of transformation videos on the internet that would agree.Makeup / clothes could add 1 point or so, but there are things you can't hide. Crooked teeth, fat belly, short legs, big nose, etc. You can't turn a below average looking girl into a victoria's secret model overnight.

JjBee62
12-15-22, 03:29
Makeup / clothes could add 1 point or so, but there are things you can't hide. Crooked teeth, fat belly, short legs, big nose, etc. You can't turn a below average looking girl into a victoria's secret model overnight.You're right. It usually only takes 2 to 3 hours. Hollywood has been doing it for decades. So has Victoria's Secret. Sure they have those who are natural beauties, but mostly they are merely looking for women who fit a particular mold.

One of life's incredible coincidences, I was just talking about this subject a few hours ago, with someone who knows. One of the reasons for the timing of this visit was to catch up with my old roommate, a very successful webcam model. Her normal everyday appearance is girl next door cute. She'll turn some heads, but she won't stop traffic. Just some basic makeup and the right lighting and camera angles easily bumps her up a point. Occasionally, for special shows, she'll hire professionals to do hair and make-up, add 2 more points. So a 6 becomes a 7, becomes a 9 for a few hours and in the morning she's a 6 again.

Another subject we talked about was a recent topic: insecurity. This is someone who not only hears how beautiful she is hundreds of times each week, guys throw a lot of money at her. Yet she agrees that now matter how beautiful a woman is, when she looks in the mirror she sees flaws.

MiamiBoy1
12-15-22, 05:14
You're right. It usually only takes 2 to 3 hours. Hollywood has been doing it for decades. So has Victoria's Secret. Sure they have those who are natural beauties, but mostly they are merely looking for women who fit a particular mold.

One of life's incredible coincidences, I was just talking about this subject a few hours ago, with someone who knows. One of the reasons for the timing of this visit was to catch up with my old roommate, a very successful webcam model. Her normal everyday appearance is girl next door cute. She'll turn some heads, but she won't stop traffic. Just some basic makeup and the right lighting and camera angles easily bumps her up a point. Occasionally, for special shows, she'll hire professionals to do hair and make-up, add 2 more points. So a 6 becomes a 7, becomes a 9 for a few hours and in the morning she's a 6 again.

Another subject we talked about was a recent topic: insecurity. This is someone who not only hears how beautiful she is hundreds of times each week, guys throw a lot of money at her. Yet she agrees that now matter how beautiful a woman is, when she looks in the mirror she sees flaws.A girl who is cute and will turn some heads, is already a 7, not a 6. Makeup and hair might make her face prettier, but the body stays the same. 7 to 8 transition is definitely doable, but adding 2 more points is a big stretch.

ChuchoLoco
12-15-22, 16:56
Unless you are judging naked with no makeup and hair pulled back I would beg to differ. And there are tons of transformation videos on the internet that would agree.I had made acquaintanceships with a few trans in San José years ago and these "girls" were quite attractive. Actually prettier than most of the real girls there. But for whatever reason they showed me there cédulas which had their pictures as men. They were ugly, I mean ugly dudes but they transformed into beautiful women. Nice legs and asses too but no tits. So if they can go from ugly guys to beautiful women then the same is even more true for a biological woman so what you have said is true in my opinion and experience.

Igor54
12-17-22, 03:44
You, and some other posters, fail to understand the 1. 10 scale concept. If I rate a girl 7, or whatever number, she is a 7 to me no matter how badly I want to fuck. What changes is the amount of money I'm willing to pay to fuck her, or the amount of time I'm willing to spend with her. Just because I have blue balls doesn't mean she automatically turns into a 9, but if I'm desperate or have no other options, I will gladly do a 7, because she meets my minimum requirements.

5/10 and 9/10 are completely different leagues, and a 5 will never become a 9, period. I'm tired to repeat the same stuff all over again. Feel free to not use the 1-10 scale if you feel like it is useless.It's more easy to post some pics from the internet what is 5/10 and 10/10.

Anthony2023
12-20-22, 04:08
Jesus this dude hasn't even be to Medellin once? Holy shit.Yeah and what's your point? In case you haven't noticed this forum is full of first time travelers to medellin.

Anthony2023
12-20-22, 04:23
If I blur the face, it would make posting pics pointless. Face, at least to me, is super important. One can't rate a girl properly without seeing a face.

I think it was just one time when I posted some Instagram chick for rating purposes, and I said that she was just a random chick that I never fucked.

Some other people (not all people, of course) don't get the type of girls I'm getting not because they can't, but because they are too lazy, cheap, have "pussy is pussy" mentality, lack of self-confidence, etc. This has a lot to do with the age, the older one gets, the lower his standards become.That could be true. Not stupid at all like JJb said. I think if we all had to post our age when discussing our views and writing these reports it would help to determine if we could relate with the OP. I can see an older person or even just a fat out of shape man lowering his standards definitely. Hell I can be picky right now because I"m in my mid 30's but let's be real if I was 45+ or fat out of shape I definitely wouldn't care as much. I'm curious to know how old some of ya'll are. Makes no sense to go back and fourth and we can't relate.

MiamiBoy1
12-20-22, 06:36
That could be true. Not stupid at all like JJb said. I think if we all had to post our age when discussing our views and writing these reports it would help to determine if we could relate with the OP. I can see an older person or even just a fat out of shape man lowering his standards definitely. Hell I can be picky right now because I"m in my mid 30's but let's be real if I was 45+ or fat out of shape I definitely wouldn't care as much. I'm curious to know how old some of ya'll are. Makes no sense to go back and fourth and we can't relate.That was exactly my point and JJb doesn't get it. If you are 60 and had been married all your life and lived in a pussy prison, but now are finally divorced and come down to MDE, any younger girl you fuck, 18-30 yo, even if fat or unattractive, would be a huge progress compared to your boring, older ex-wife. You fuck whatever moves, and you don't care. I bet when I hit a certain age and get out of shape, I will be gladly fucking any girl I can possibly get, and I will care less about her looks. But as of now, I can afford to be picky.

I think age / standards level correlation has a bell curve. When you are young, inexperienced, horny, and most likely, broke, you fuck any girl you can get. Your standards are low. As you grow up, your wealth grows, as well as your experience with women, and so you become picky and try to get the best women possible. At certain age your health starts to deteriorate, you get out of shape, get sick and tired of your boring married (or single) life, and you gladly fuck the girls you would fuck in your teenage / young years.

JjBee62
12-20-22, 07:01
That could be true. Not stupid at all like JJb said. I think if we all had to post our age when discussing our views and writing these reports it would help to determine if we could relate with the OP. I can see an older person or even just a fat out of shape man lowering his standards definitely. Hell I can be picky right now because I"m in my mid 30's but let's be real if I was 45+ or fat out of shape I definitely wouldn't care as much. I'm curious to know how old some of ya'll are. Makes no sense to go back and fourth and we can't relate.Let's try this. You're from a Latino background? So that means you're a lazy criminal? Now, are you going to say "that could be true", or will you say it's "stupid?" You're probably familiar with the term "trophy wife. " Ever seen a trophy wife who is old, fat and ugly? If old guys, or fat guys automatically lower their standards, why would a guy dump a "lower standards" wife, at great expense, to acquire a "higher standards" wife at an even greater expense?

I'll start. I'm 60. Can you relate now? Nope. Because you've never been 60. And when you are 60 you still won't be able to relate, because you're not me. You won't have the same experiences, you won't have aged the same. The only experiences you can truly relate to are your own.

You probably grew up around other people. Went to school with them, played with them and graduated with them. True? Trace your life back to when you were 18. Look at all of the guys who you knew then. How many of them are where you are right now? Probably some are married with kids, others might be on their 2nd or 3rd wife. A few might have come out as gay. One might have had surgery and now calls herself Jennifer. Some might be deeply in debt, unemployed, addicted to drugs or even dead. Still others might be addicted to religion. And that's just looking at guys your own age.

Can you relate to a guy who has only had sex with the woman he married 16 years ago? Can you relate to a guy who has been in prison for 15 years? Again, that's just people who started out with a similar background at the same time as you.

Yet, without knowing anything about anyone here you feel that by knowing someone's age you can suddenly understand them? Fuck, why don't you just ask everyone their zodiac sign? "You're a LEO? Now I understand everything."

Now, since you know my age, I'll tell you I have a Colombian girlfriend. What does she look like? How old is she? On Miamiboy's foolproof 1-10 scale, what's her number? What's her educational background? How about her family? What estrato do they live in? What did we do together for 7 weeks in the US? How are you doing with relating to me?

Most of us old guys (and there are a lot of us) don't waste everyone's time trying to claim the girls we're getting are better, or the sex is better. Why? Because it doesn't matter. If Fun Luvr is enjoying the women he's doing, it doesn't matter if I think my girl is better, or if you believe you're having better sex. His pleasure doesn't rely on your opinion. The same is true when you get around to fucking the women you want to fuck. Are you going to kick a girl out because she's not my type?

Here's the part which you really need to learn. If you're paying for pussy, you've already lowered your standards. If you ever get around to paying for pussy in Colombia, chances are that some old guy's dick has already been there.

Nounce
12-20-22, 07:07
.... and so you become picky and try to get the best women possible. ...But that does not mean you have more fun which seems to be what your are implying from your other posts. You only have fun occasionally because of your high standard while others have the same fun or more everyday! I am going to guess you disagree.

As for posting pictures with face, it is pretty easy actually. You could just post someone who is available that you no longer want, or the ones you filter out.

Nounce
12-20-22, 07:15
...They won't just flat out assault you in public even at night. ...I hope members give the guy a break. He is raising awareness which is not a bad thing. I wish I still think the way you do. Unfortunately, I agree with the poster. It is not a good feeling to be constantly on your guard, and this is not about El Centro.

I did exactly like he said. Less than a month ago, I was walking back from lunch in Laureles with an ISGer. I saw two guys passing me from the opposite direction, also in Laureles. By this point of my stay due to other incidents, I was super aware and I always look back in situation like this, basically keep my head on a swivel. One of the guys had turned around and was following me. I got away and he turned around after.

Like you I rarely had problem in El Centro and I can say that I went there at all hours, frequently. I reported once about almost being robbed by 2 guys on a moto. That was my fault that I went out too late at night on Oriental which is a main street. I was in Medellin for a long time, practically live here. When I left, the immigration made sure I wasn't coming back. lol

I say go to youtube and you are going to see many first hand robbery reports from bloggers, including Life with David and he was not robbed in El Centro

Anthony2023
12-20-22, 11:39
Oh my goodness. So much wrong with this statement, but if this dude ever actually makes it to Colombia, he will sure find out just how way, way off base this statement is. Quantity sure. Quality no. Just ask any divorced rich guy. Start with Tom Brady and Elon Musk.I'm pretty sure paying more for a club, Facebook or seeking girl will be better quality than paying for a centro street hooker. I don't see why that is hard for some of you to understand. Just like in other places in the world, I don't have to actually have sex with a crack head street hooker to find out if she's better quality than a high end escort. But knock yourself out if you think otherwise. That's just my take on it.

Oh and I'll be landing in Medellin mid next month. Can't wait. The balcony view from my Airbnb up on the hill looking down at Poblado itself alone will be worth the trip. Excited to experience Provenza, la 70 and all the nicest coolest places to dine and drink at. Also going to do some tours and go paragliding. Since it will be my first time, have to go all out and do Medellín right before I get too old like you old fat fucks and be too tired do any of that shit LOL.

JjBee62
12-20-22, 13:50
That was exactly my point and JJb doesn't get it. If you are 60 and had been married all your life and lived in a pussy prison, but now are finally divorced and come down to MDE, any younger girl you fuck, 18-30 yo, even if fat or unattractive, would be a huge progress compared to your boring, older ex-wife. You fuck whatever moves, and you don't care. I bet when I hit a certain age and get out of shape, I will be gladly fucking any girl I can possibly get, and I will care less about her looks. But as of now, I can afford to be picky.

I think age / standards level correlation has a bell curve. When you are young, inexperienced, horny, and most likely, broke, you fuck any girl you can get. Your standards are low. As you grow up, your wealth grows, as well as your experience with women, and so you become picky and try to get the best women possible. At certain age your health starts to deteriorate, you get out of shape, get sick and tired of your boring married (or single) life, and you gladly fuck the girls you would fuck in your teenage / young years.Seriously. Give. It. The. Fuck. Up.

You're simply trying to insult people who you know nothing about. Nothing more. Just calling the US "pussy prison" shows that you know nothing about it. And your whole scenario doesn't apply to a single monger who I've met, and I've met a few.

At 21 I married, lasted until I was 23. At 26 I married. Lasted to 30. Reason it ended was at 29 I learned that "pussy prison" was actually a pussy paradise. Married for the last time at 32, separated at 34, divorced at 35. From the time I separated until divorced, met and fucked probably 20 women, a couple became regulars, most were up for 2nd encounters.

Now, where do I fit into your scenario? Until I was 26 I was living in pussy prison, but then I learned that the door was never locked. There were no guards keeping me there. All that pussy was free and just waiting for me to take it. And I took it. My standards weren't high. When you're working 80+ hours of hard, physical labor every week, in a different city nearly every day, there aren't always a lot of options quickly available. Most were just average, some above average and a few exceptional. And it was all free. Sure, I bought dinner or coffee for a few, there were even a couple of prostitutes, but I don't really count them. There were a couple of strippers who I tipped, but the fucking happened away from the club. It wasn't anything like a prison.

That stopped at 40 when I moved back to the midwest. My standards went down, then back up at 43, then down again at 48 until 50, when I put myself back in pussy prison. At 52 I went to Bogota. 8 years later, I look at the women I've been fucking, especially over the last 5 years, and nearly every 1 falls into the top 10 of the women I fucked in "pussy prison."

The difference is I'm paying for it now. I'm not paying the most, I'm not paying the least. If it's your belief that I'm only paying fat, ugly or old women, then you go ahead a run with that. It makes you look like a foolish man with self-esteem issues, but whatever it takes to lift you up.

For everyone else, you don't need to make up twisted fantasies about who other people are fucking. You don't need to rationalize to support your fantasies. Just enjoy what you're doing. If an old guy, or a young guy is doing something different, be happy he's enjoying his thing. And if you're smart, seek out those old guys, and young guys too. Every single person on this board knows something you don't.

JustTK
12-20-22, 17:28
I'm pretty sure paying more for a club, Facebook or seeking girl will be better quality than paying for a centro street hooker. I don't see why that is hard for some of you to understand.Hi Anthony, I don't understand it so please explain it to me. First, start by explaining what you mean by 'better quality' bcos all will hinge on that. Just to let you know, I am starting from the position that the only thing that paying more will guarantee, is that you will spend more money on the transaction.

Looking forward to your explanation.

Just Incognito
12-20-22, 17:42
I'm pretty sure paying more for a club, Facebook or seeking girl will be better quality than paying for a centro street hooker. I don't see why that is hard for some of you to understand. Just like in other places in the world, I don't have to actually have sex with a crack head street hooker to find out if she's better quality than a high end escort. But knock yourself out if you think otherwise. That's just my take on it.

Oh and I'll be landing in Medellin mid next month. Can't wait. The balcony view from my Airbnb up on the hill looking down at Poblado itself alone will be worth the trip. Excited to experience Provenza, la 70 and all the nicest coolest places to dine and drink at. Also going to do some tours and go paragliding. Since it will be my first time, have to go all out and do Medelln right before I get too old like you old fat fucks and be too tired do any of that shit LOL.I was in Conejitas one late afternoon and for 60 kcop had one of the best sessions ever. Incredible BBBJ with her giving me a fantastic rim job and after I came in her mouth she kept sucking and sucking. I said 'sigue sigue'. She looked up. With my divk in her mouth and I sid--sigue por dos. Propina no problemo. She kept sucking me until I came a 2nd time--which was a while! During that while my balls and asshole got the full treatment from her mouth. She was fantastic--a tiny little light black spinner-great attitude, great fuck, incredible BJ, ass play and overall great experience. For 60 kcop and I tipped her 40 kcop for the 2nd load / time and incredible service. So-your 1st point is total bullshit as I have also had 300 kcop facebook chicks, fase dos overpriced hotties and other that were not as good and way more expensive. I spent 400 kcoop at loutron 10 years ago and it wasn't as good of at least 2 sessions I had in centro clubs for 50-70 kcop. Price doesn't dictate performance, looks or service. It just doesn't. You don't know what you are talking about. Attitude determines quite a lot in Medellin.

& your attitude and energy in the 2nd part of this post--cash bragging ego driven bloviators who insult people on this board that are just offering experienced and hnest information are the ones who get scoped and taken advantage of the easiest. You belong in the Mansion but are too conceited to understand that-I predict you will get robbed, drugged and ripped off more than once in Medellin if your online persona is what you are like in real life--and I can tell you: no chicas are going to want to see you again or enjoy being with you at all so service will be poor for you. You come off as a buffoon.

JjBee62
12-20-22, 17:50
I'm pretty sure paying more for a club, Facebook or seeking girl will be better quality than paying for a centro street hooker. I don't see why that is hard for some of you to understand. Just like in other places in the world, I don't have to actually have sex with a crack head street hooker to find out if she's better quality than a high end escort. But knock yourself out if you think otherwise. That's just my take on it.

Oh and I'll be landing in Medellin mid next month. Can't wait. The balcony view from my Airbnb up on the hill looking down at Poblado itself alone will be worth the trip. Excited to experience Provenza, la 70 and all the nicest coolest places to dine and drink at. Also going to do some tours and go paragliding. Since it will be my first time, have to go all out and do Medelln right before I get too old like you old fat fucks and be too tired do any of that shit LOL.And I'm pretty sure you're wrong. That's without doing any street girls.

I've done plenty of Facebook and club girls and I've paid many different prices. I dabbled into Seeking briefly but dumped it. Why pay $100 a month to find a girl who'll fuck you for $150, when you can often find the same girl who will fuck you for $75 if you contact her from Facebook?

Love the hyperbole by the way. Why specify only "crack head street hookers" and "high end escorts?" There's a huge middle ground. There are Facebook and Seeking girls who are much worse than the typical street girl. There are high end escorts who are complete starfish with a long list of rules about what's allowed. I don't care how beautiful, if she just lays there stopping me from doing my thing, that's not quality.

On the other hand, if she picks me up at the airport, is sticking her tongue down my throat before we start driving and spends the whole trip giving me a handjob while I finger her and play with her tits, takes me to an ATM, takes me to my place and proceeds to fuck me until I can't stand and spends 6 hours with me, I consider that quality.

Anthony2023
12-20-22, 18:00
Let's try this. You're from a Latino background? So that means you're a lazy criminal? Now, are you going to say "that could be true", or will you say it's "stupid?" You're probably familiar with the term "trophy wife. " Ever seen a trophy wife who is old, fat and ugly? If old guys, or fat guys automatically lower their standards, why would a guy dump a "lower standards" wife, at great expense, to acquire a "higher standards" wife at an even greater expense?

I'll start. I'm 60. Can you relate now? Nope. Because you've never been 60. And when you are 60 you still won't be able to relate, because you're not me. You won't have the same experiences, you won't have aged the same. The only experiences you can truly relate to are your own.

You probably grew up around other people. Went to school with them, played with them and graduated with them. True? Trace your life back to when you were 18. Look at all of the guys who you knew then. How many of them are where you are right now? Probably some are married with kids, others might be on their 2nd or 3rd wife. A few might have come out as gay. One might have had surgery and now calls herself Jennifer. Some might be deeply in debt, unemployed, addicted to drugs or even dead. Still others might be addicted to religion. And that's just looking at guys your own age.

Can you relate to a guy who has only had sex with the woman he married 16 years ago? Can you relate to a guy who has been in prison for 15 years? Again, that's just people who started out with a similar background at the same time as you..You had to write a whole book? LOL I'm not reading all of that. I guess you are sensitive as well. Well I can't say I'm surprised that you are 60. Just as I suspected, that explains a lot. Yeah some of us been wasting our time going back and fourth because you're right I can't relate to you. I'm surprised you can still get it up LOL more power to ya. Don't take this the wrong way I wouldn't want nothing bad to happen to ya. I'm well aware of the chances, just like you should be aware as well that chances are a girl will enjoy the sex better thus give better service (better sex) with someone she's more attracted to and closer to her age vs someone who's old enough to be grandpa with old wrinkly balls LOL. Don't get your panties all in a bunch and reply back with a book, It's just a joke.

Anthony2023
12-20-22, 18:05
Hi Anthony, I don't understand it so please explain it to me. First, start by explaining what you mean by 'better quality' bcos all will hinge on that. Just to let you know, I am starting from the position that the only thing that paying more will guarantee, is that you will spend more money on the transaction.

Looking forward to your explanation.Pretty self explanatory. Better quality (better looking / better service) what's that saying from papa John's? Better ingredients, better pizza LOL. Well same thing. I don't have to test drive a Mercedes to know it looks and drives better than a Honda.

Mr Enternational
12-20-22, 19:19
I'm pretty sure paying more for a club, Facebook or seeking girl will be better quality than paying for a centro street hooker. I don't see why that is hard for some of you to understand. Just like in other places in the world, I don't have to actually have sex with a crack head street hooker to find out if she's better quality than a high end escort. .You say that as if there are no crack head high price escorts or no high end street hookers. 99% of the posts here that guys mention doing drugs with chicks or getting drugged or robbed, guess where they did not come from? Yep. Got them from clubs and online. Not centro!

JustTK
12-20-22, 21:20
what's that saying from papa John's? Better ingredients, better pizza .Well since you like wothless anecdotes, how about paying USD 15 for a Pepsi in a club, when you cango to a corner shop and pay 50 c. ?

You know where the majority of fb girls come from? Bello, manrique, and the barrios east of centro. You know where the majority of centro girls come from? Same places, same ingredients. Same chef.