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I would ban you for a month for that comment. The offensive part aside it does not make any sense. Why am I paying her mother money and making money off of her daughter?
No, Mr. Truck Driver, I am supporting her mother and her daughter. That is what men do with people they care about which your selfish ass has never done long term. YOU are the sleazeball making money off young Colombian girls.You're the guy going on about a girl still 4 years short of her 18th birthday having her mother's curves and being a perfect 10. The 1-10 scale is nothing except a rating of a woman's sexual desirability. Then you took it a step farther, claiming that acting as a stepfather, you would have no problems with her going out with Mami'sBoy, a *****monger. If you said it, why do you find it offensive?
As for your makes no sense question, there was a guy named Jake who had a similar plan. Perhaps you've heard how that turned out.
Selfish? Me? Last year you were complaining that I was being to frivolous taking girls out to dinner.
No, that's not what men do. What men do, when they find someone they want to support, they put a ring on it, and adopt the kid. At the very least they register a domestic partnership. Been there, done that.
How am I making money off Colombian girls? Just a few days ago you were blowing about me working for free for Colombian girls. I wouldn't really call them young either. My roommate was 26. Only 1 model I worked with was under 24 and she was 20.
And I cannot imagine how attractive that is to women once they figure that out.
For $200, I bought my gal's daughter a keyboard at Christmas. She ripped it open, saw what it was and squealed with delight. She gave me a huge hug, and had the kind of smile that reminds you why Christmas can be as special as it is. She assembled it that day and played it right then and has played it every day since.
I guess that pales in comparison to other Hi (not high) value men who would have spent that money on booze, broads, gambling, or cigars. I am so low value / sarc.
When you are in a bar, it is a cost to buy a 5 a drink. With a 10 it is a privilege because everyone in the bar wants to buy her a drink.
And the same is true with a kid. With a brat, it is a cost caring for them. With a good kid, it is an honor.
But given the trash you guys hang around, I am not sure you have ever seen a 10 or a good kid for that matter.If I was looking for a wife, and the woman had children, I would evaluate the woman as my partner, and as a mother. I would also evaluate the kids. If I'm looking for someone to fuck on a regular basis, I might support them, but not her kids. The kids need someone who has committed to be there, not someone who shows up every 2 months, keeps the mother from being with her kids and leaves some money.
I'll ask again, because you can't seem to grasp how to answer.
1. What trash are we hanging out with? First she was "cute", then she was "fat and ugly" and now she's "trash. " Is it any wonder everyone thinks your 1-10 scale is useless bullshit?
2. What makes you think none of us have seen a good kid? First thing, in Colombia we're not hanging out with kids. We're there to fuck women. If you're hanging out with kids while fucking their mother, you've got serious problems.
3. Why would you buy a 5 a drink? And why buy a 10 a drink? If everyone else is buying her drinks, you talk her into sharing with you while you laugh at all the guys lining up to buy her drinks. Then you take her home.
For Christmas I spent $250 making my girl's grandmothers shower wheelchair accessible. She didn't squeal, but she did hug me. You bought a $200 keyboard and I'm selfish? You can't get a halfway decent one without spending $500 or more. If you want to brag about it, buy a good one.
Doing super beta shit from the passenger seat in Brazil. Too bad my girl is just a normal ass taxi driver and not an elite that I have to foot the bill for though.It's important to check fluid levels.
When you are in a bar, it is a cost to buy a 5 a drink. With a 10 it is a privilege because everyone in the bar wants to buy her a drink.I believe Dave Chapelle captured the essence of Elvis when he said about Herschel Walker, 'the man is observably stupid. '.
Yeah, and to clarify that Anthony, it means making me feel good in every phase of my life if I am paying the bills. Yes, sexually, it means satisfying me however it means making me feel better in every aspect of my life. That means enhancing relationships with acquaintances, friends, and family. It means when I come home that I want to go in the house versus standing outside of it. It means when I am done talking to you I am smiling happy that I called you. It means being open to having fun when I need to have fun. And for the most part, home will be a sanctuary from stress and not a place with constant drama. They actually had articles in the 50's for women about how to care for their man. Now it is women deserve everything.
You would think that I would after all these years be able to pick out a guy who had the above situation, and I cannot. Chris Rock made a joke about this and said every married man here gets the same lousy ass blowjob. It is three licks and the woman says, "Is it hard yet? Put it in. I got laundry to do. " Yes, it is funny because it is true, but his solution was worse. If your job in the band is to play the tambourine, you just smile, be happy, and play the shit out of it. I think your generation is seeing that if you are paying for the whole band, then fuck just playing the tambourine.
My response and yours Anthony is then I will not form a band but just pay for one myself where I can be the star, and it is a lot cheaper and more satisfying. And that is what I meant by thinking no one would ever meet my criteria. I thought no one woman could best the concept of a harem because in my harem when a woman does nor perform, and they almost always do not perform over time, I just replace her, and usually it is almost always an upgrade at least for a while. If you do find a woman who can best a harem, then lock her up because even in Colombia, they are not easy to find.Blah blah blah, useless Epstein babble.
JJbee AKA professor shit for brains was flat out lying when he said single moms cannot be part of the elite, and the reason he said that is he cannot date the elite. What woman is going to commit herself to an in debt, unhealthy, 60 year old truck driver? They have no future with him and if he had any brains, he would not even think about long term with any woman.They're trading pussy for money. There's no commitment. If you are willing to pay for the pussy that's all the commitment needed.
I am 60, I do drive a truck. I'm not in debt and my health is quite good. A few minor issues, easily controlled with medication. I can still put in a 70 hour week in 4 1/2 days, every week. Anytime you're ready I'll take you on a walk and we'll see who taps out first.
But I am glad he brought it up because I talked to my woman about this single mom issue in Colombia, and she told me single motherhood is very, very common in Colombia, so I googled the number and 84% of the kids in Colombia are born out of wedlock. Can you believe that? 84 fucking percent! That sucks for the women, and it says horrible things about Colombian men, but it is great for us.Roughly 80% of Colombians live in estrato 1, 2 or 3 neighborhoods. Take a guess where almost all of those single mothers live.
So my gal is pregnant at 19, has her kid at 20, and she has had help from her family. The baby daddy is scum but his parents actually helped out. Still, most of the job of being a parent was on her, and she has no pie in the sky idea about being a mother and having a family and what the man's job is. If he is a nice guy and provider, she is going to appreciate that because it is better than what she had, and her daughter is old enough now to appreciate it too.How do you know he's scum? She picked him. Either she prefers scum, which explains her current situation, or she's a lousy judge of character.
Thing is how many women are there out there who look like her, really appreciate a man, and how do you find them? I am sure there are more, and I do not know where you find them, but I guarantee you that it is not going to be in the slums where women have no concept of a long term relationship. And if you cannot find a woman like mine, and it is not easy to find one, then by all means, stick with your harem.Your girl came from the slums. It's easy to find girls like that. Okay not that easy. By the time they get to 34 years old, they've already gotten a situation and aren't settling for desperate gringos on Seeking. It's easy to find much younger girls, many who were smart enough to avoid getting pregnant.
Mr Enternational
01-22-23, 18:48
I talked to my woman about this single mom issue in Colombia, and she told me single motherhood is very, very common in Colombia, so I googled the number and 84% of the kids in Colombia are born out of wedlock. Can you believe that? 84 fucking percent! That sucks for the women, and it says horrible things about Colombian men, but it is great for us.Why weren't you more specific by asking about single motherhood in the elite class that she is from? See we all know that single motherhood is common in Colombia amongst the common folk. The argument was about single motherhood in elite circles that you say your girl is from.
I actually see the 84% as saying a lot about the women. Like why are they choosing to get knocked up by a dude that is not their husband? Are they really that stupid? They saw Barbara get knocked up and the guy was gone. They watched Ann get knocked up and the guy is gone. Now they get knocked up and expect the guy to stay?
I guess that is the same as the many mongers that get involved with hookers and swear my hooker would not do me the same as the other hookers do those other guys. My hooker is different and elite.
Of course not. You never post that you do anything. All you post is silly bullshit insisting everyone use the same 1-10 scale you use.
Damn. I struck a nerve there.
It varies, but for most men, once puberty hits getting laid is a priority. Pretty soon, for most, it becomes a top priority. Can't say I've ever heard of a man who decided to just wait until he could afford to pay to get laid. You should sell that script to the Hallmark channel.
Sure. If you assume that the time it takes to talk with a woman is a cost. Although, come to think of it, there were plenty of times when even that wasn't needed.
Isn't that everyone's goal? I've talked with a lot of mongers. Not one has claimed they are looking to have a mediocre time and boring experiences.
Why did you, a few weeks ago, bring up your discussion of the kind of sex older mongers are having? If at your age you have such an advantage, why not exploit it and get the free pussy. You should be able to walk into any store or restaurant and walk out with 2 or 3 numbers of regular girls who would love a date with you.
Why does the free sex topic come up every week? I'm not the first to mention it.
I just love it when someone says "I bet. " I especially love it because the kind of people who say "I bet" won't take a bet when I offer one. Here's the bet: If I score an Instagram model on my next Medellin trip, I win. If not, I lose. The bet is $1000. To qualify, the Instagram model needs a minimum of 10 k followers. I've already scored one with 6,000.I won't take your bet because it is a stupid one. You want me to pay you $1000 if you score an Instagram model. Okay, but how do I know you scored her? Unless you videotape everything. Scoring an insta model is relatively easy if you throw a crazy amount of money at her. How about $500/ HR everything covered? That's over 2 million COP. Almost any girl would accept that. You pay her $500 and you keep another $500, sweet deal, isn't it? Heck, even if you pay her $1000 and don't make any money off this bet, it is still a sweet deal for you because you will be fucking a model on my dime. How about I pay you $100 if you score one? Huh? The bet is not so sweet any more, right?
Elvis 2008
01-22-23, 22:12
Life isn't always either or my friend. There's always plenty of other choices and things going on in between. And you don't know where I've been or whose kids I've seen. You do you (I don't believe that equates to being a "beta" or a "cuck" by the way). And I'll do me.Yeah, but you are hanging around the trash that is piling on Cane, and you are identifying yourself with them. LuvMexicans is a troll who has never been to Colombia. Viliany spins these crazy delusional fantasies. Huacho has said treating a 5 and 10 in the bar the same is "observably stupid".
In a rare moment of truth, JJBee said the photos of women I have had are meant to be intimidating. None of their photos have intimidated me.
JJBee asked me how I knew other men were fucking fat and ugly women. First off, if you are intimidated by my women, that is a clue. With Huacho, I knew before he posted that he admitted fucking ugly women of the type he ran with. It was easy because he is a fucking coward. He is not going to take the financial and emotional risk to get a 10.
Viliany's is a delusional narcissist who also cannot handle rejection. A 10 that rejects him instantly becomes a 5. And a 5 on his arm instantly becomes a 10. He cannot tell the difference between the truth and what he wants to be true, and it is fun watching him confuse the two. I tell him that he does not have an objective bone in his body, and he keeps proving me right.
Why would you buy a 5 a drink? And why buy a 10 a drink? If everyone else is buying her drinks, you talk her into sharing with you while you laugh at all the guys lining up to buy her drinks. Then you take her home.
And this is the king of the losers right here. Don't you wish this were true? Don't you want that guy to be you? The problem is Lebron here just admitted that rating women is subjective and what he really meant by that is like Viliany any woman on his arm is a 10, and any on yours is a 5.
And if the goal is to fuck a 10, why not just pay a hooker? Even if you bang her, is banging a drunk 10 better? Blah. Give me the hooker any day.
Of course, even their fantasies show how fucked in the head they are. The real fantasy should be having a 10 fall for you and trust you and want to suck your dick and fuck you day and night, and if this is your fantasy, just fucking a 10, it just tells me you have not had one.
You were just on seeking a month, scored once, and quit right? Try being on it for years: spending the money, getting blown off on dates, being lied to or led on, the time wasted, the lack of consistent effort. It is not easy finding a gem, and it is a helluva lot easier and cheaper just saying your 5 is a 10. My question to you Cane: is that what you are doing too?
ChuchoLoco
01-22-23, 22:27
And I cannot imagine how attractive that is to women once they figure that out.
For $200, I bought my gal's daughter a keyboard at Christmas. She ripped it open, saw what it was and squealed with delight. She gave me a huge hug, and had the kind of smile that reminds you why Christmas can be as special as it is. She assembled it that day and played it right then and has played it every day since.
I guess that pales in comparison to other Hi (not high) value men who would have spent that money on booze, broads, gambling, or cigars. I am so low value / sarc.
When you are in a bar, it is a cost to buy a 5 a drink. With a 10 it is a privilege because everyone in the bar wants to buy her a drink.
And the same is true with a kid. With a brat, it is a cost caring for them. With a good kid, it is an honor.
But given the trash you guys hang around, I am not sure you have ever seen a 10 or a good kid for that matter.Not sure how or why this discussion started and it doesn't matter. All I can say is that this little girl will remember that moment of joy and you and your gift forever. There is nothing like the look of joy and happiness in a little kid. We all know that life is not all roses so why not make someone who is still young and innocent happy! Good for you E. At least in this case.
DramaFree11
01-23-23, 02:26
That sounds like a 10 to me. Huge fuckin eye roll.Luvmudd good to see you are still positive as usual and stalking Elvis. I doubt you have ever been to MDE you are way to cheap.
LuvMexicanas
01-23-23, 03:19
Luvmudd good to see you are still positive as usual and stalking Elvis. I doubt you have ever been to MDE you are way to cheap.Girlfriend has come to support girlfriend I see. Elvira tries to convince everyone his single mom puta is a 10 and you're a compulsive liar who's the clown that said in one post he lived in Ukraine three times and in another post you claimed you lived there twice. Who the fuck confuses the number of times they lived in a foreign country? Only liars do such as you.
It's not a 'privilege' to buy anybody a drink. It might be a kindness, it might be an investment, it might just be your shout, but anyone who thinks it is a 'privilege' to buy any person of any gender of any level of attractiveness a drink is observably stupid. I've known mongers to buy cars for hookers (or motos ja ja Osteo) and that is also observably stupid.
Huacho has said treating a 5 and 10 in the bar the same is "observably stupid".No, I said you are observably stupid. The post I quoted was just an example of your routine illogical stupidity. Has anyone seen you and Herschel in the same room lately?
Elvis 2008
01-23-23, 07:22
Roughly 80% of Colombians live in estrato 1, 2 or 3 neighborhoods. Take a guess where almost all of those single mothers live. Your girl came from the slums.LOL. Was it 1, 2, or 3? I guess it does not matter as long as it was lower than your GF's 4. When you and Viliany engage in your mental masturbation like this, do you guys jerk each other off?
For Christmas I spent $250 making my girl's grandmothers shower wheelchair accessible. She didn't squeal, but she did hug me.So now spending money on a woman and her family is cool and a guy is not a sucker for doing so? LOL, Well, at least you are consistent Lebron, a consistent narcissist.
And the bet with MB? Shit, if we hang around long enough, my guess is you are going to be making jokes about your dick.
Elvis 2008
01-23-23, 07:44
Why weren't you more specific by asking about single motherhood in the elite class that she is from?Because I am enjoying the stories you losers make up about her to feel better about yourselves. You guys are so desperate to think your 5's are cheaper and better than her.
See we all know that single motherhood is common in Colombia amongst the common folk. The argument was about single motherhood in elite circles that you say your girl is from.And now we all "know" that the elite girls go to Mexico when they get pregnant like Monarch butterflies in the winter.
I actually see the 84% as saying a lot about the women. Like why are they choosing to get knocked up by a dude that is not their husband? Are they really that stupid?Actually, I think this says a lot about you. Was your mother stupid having you? You think a woman is smart who kills her kid versus having it? Unreal.
And you and V were perfect at 19 with making decisions?
It is fun watching all this bullshit flow.
If it makes you feel any better, there is no difference between a 5 and 10 after a 12 pack. Ask Huacho. He knows.
I won't take your bet because it is a stupid one. You want me to pay you $1000 if you score an Instagram model. Okay, but how do I know you scored her? Unless you videotape everything. Scoring an insta model is relatively easy if you throw a crazy amount of money at her. How about $500/ HR everything covered? That's over 2 million COP. Almost any girl would accept that. You pay her $500 and you keep another $500, sweet deal, isn't it? Heck, even if you pay her $1000 and don't make any money off this bet, it is still a sweet deal for you because you will be fucking a model on my dime. How about I pay you $100 if you score one? Huh? The bet is not so sweet any more, right?You truly lived up to your Mami'sBoy name there. First you bet that I can't score an Instagram chick, because they're out of my league, then you won't take the bet because I can easily score an Instagram chick.
Oh wait. I see the problem. You can't afford to pay $1000. That's sad. But you'll pay $100?. I'll take that bet. I would think a few pictures should easily prove my success. Looks like I'll need to take a short trip in April.
You truly lived up to your Mami'sBoy name there. First you bet that I can't score an Instagram chick, because they're out of my league, then you won't take the bet because I can easily score an Instagram chick.
Oh wait. I see the problem. You can't afford to pay $1000. That's sad. But you'll pay $100?. I'll take that bet. I would think a few pictures should easily prove my success. Looks like I'll need to take a short trip in April.Any idiot including yourself can score an insta chick if he pays her 5-10 times the going rate. Don't forget to post her insta profile here so we all could check her out and confirm she got at least 10 k followers. Once you fuck her, send me a proof and an invoice, and I will gladly wire transfer your winnings.
Any idiot including yourself can score an insta chick if he pays her 5-10 times the going rate. Don't forget to post her insta profile here so we all could check her out and confirm she got at least 10 k followers. Once you fuck her, send me a proof and an invoice, and I will gladly wire transfer your winnings.There you go again. First you say they're out of my league, now you say they're not out of anyone's league if they spend enough money.
Sorry, I won't post her Instagram profile here. That's unacceptable. You'll receive a PM with the necessary information.
You're only partially right, which is a huge step forward. Any Instagram girl who is selling pussy, can be had by almost anyone who offers enough money. Enough money is her going rate. Just offering random girls large amounts of money is a waste of time and money. It's a simple process. First figure out if she's for sale. Second, figure out her price range. Then just make an offer.
Of course, not every girl will sell sex. They require a different approach.
Mr Enternational
01-23-23, 18:33
It's not a 'privilege' to buy anybody a drink. It might be a kindness, it might be an investment, it might just be your shout, but anyone who thinks it is a 'privilege' to buy any person of any gender of any level of attractiveness a drink is observably stupid. I've known mongers to buy cars for hookers (or motos ja ja Osteo) and that is also observably stupid.I have known them to buy houses for chicks. I guess Elvis does not have enough privilege and his girl is not elite enough for him to treat her like this real man treats his. Elvis needs to level up and buy his single mom elite 10 what she deserves or he is going to get dumped quick when a man like this comes along.
I have known them to buy houses for chicks. I guess Elvis does not have enough privilege and his girl is not elite enough for him to treat her like this real man treats his. Elvis needs to level up and buy his single mom elite 10 what she deserves or he is going to get dumped quick when a man like this comes along.You're not lying! I know a simp who bought a tute a house in Panama City for $50,000 (that was a good price back then for that particular property and neighborhood). Fifty grand, and she didn't even want to be with his fat ass! Beyond pathetic and sad. Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm. A shame and a scandal! The things a simp will do for "love" (rolling eyes).
I know her since she was 19. Phone girl has a sugar daddy for a few years, yes you read it right. LOL.
She and her SD rarely have sex and that is where I come in. She calls me and I don't call her. Sometimes she would come to see me on her way to her SD's place to spend the night. The SD is pretty wealthy because I know the kind of place he has the trips they took. The SD supports three generations of her family. She also said to me she could never leave him because the support he gives her.
The reason I called her phone girl is because the SD gave her a phone and likely put a tracker on the phone. One day he tracked her to my apartment. She could even hear and recognize the sound of his car while we were out on the balcony because he was circling around angrily and sent messages to her telling her where she was. Her heart was pounding, and she turned everything off. I would not believe it if her SD did not confront me later when we went out.
This girl is a 9. 9 if I must give a rating since that is so important. She does not look like a typical Paisa. She dresses very well because her SD brought everything from US for her. She is easily one of my favorite.
This roughly give you an idea. I may tell another one if I have time.
Mr Enternational
01-24-23, 21:35
This roughly give you an idea. I may tell another one if I have time.Clean your box out.
I have known them to buy houses for chicks. I guess Elvis does not have enough privilege and his girl is not elite enough for him to treat her like this real man treats his. Elvis needs to level up and buy his single mom elite 10 what she deserves or he is going to get dumped quick when a man like this comes along.Yeah, I knew a rich fool in Argentina that bought a house for an old, used up hooker and her two totally useless daughters. Actually I think Elvis probably met this guy, but he was banned and I think if I post his screen name it will be hidden. E x o and 1 2 3. He's dead now. First he went to prison for forging his wife's name on a stock certificate during their divorce, then he discovered Argentina, then he threatened a federal judge over the internet and went back to prison in his 70's. Was out for about a year or two and dropped dead. Wonder how the house is doing. He did a lot of improvements to it also.
Yeah, I knew a rich fool in Argentina that bought a house for an old, used up hooker and her two totally useless daughters. .Daughters are never useless, are they? )
Elvis 2008
01-28-23, 17:47
It's not a 'privilege' to buy anybody a drink.And this is why you will never get a 10. It is fine if you really do not want one, but it is obvious to me that you and others are insecure that you are getting an inferior product and experience. Gee, I wonder why I do not feel likewise.
I've known mongers to buy cars for hookers (or motos ja ja Osteo) and that is also observably stupid.What is observably stupid is you and other mongers going from buying a drink to buying a car and a house. I must have missed the line of guys out the door willing to do that for women.
Quite frankly, if you go back to the hypothetical bar and the woman stops asking for a drink and starts demanding a $500 bottle of champagne, my guess is most guys will have lost interest. I know I would because she has just identified herself as a ho and can be valued as such.
And I am not sure why you use the term investment as if all your investments turn to crap. There is no possible way that buying a drink could result in a positive return then? Yeah, given what you have been dating, I would agree. You leave little doubt as to what that is Huacho.
And now we got Nounce in here like Osteoknot talking about banging the kept woman on the side as if that is inevitable.
There is a part you guys do not get, and I am not even sure if it is worth bringing up because you all are so certain about her (even more certain than me I might add) and I so enjoy your stories, but do you see it as possible that a woman might, just might refuse a house, car, or $500 bottle of champagne and why they might do so?
I just wonder if even one of you can come within a mile of why my woman or any other woman would refuse such a thing.
LuvMexicanas
01-29-23, 01:34
And this is why you will never get a 10. It is fine if you really do not want one, but it is obvious to me that you and others are insecure that you are getting an inferior product and experience. Gee, I wonder why I do not feel likewise.
What is observably stupid is you and other mongers going from buying a drink to buying a car and a house. I must have missed the line of guys out the door willing to do that for women.
Quite frankly, if you go back to the hypothetical bar and the woman stops asking for a drink and starts demanding a $500 bottle of champagne, my guess is most guys will have lost interest. I know I would because she has just identified herself as a ho and can be valued as such.
And I am not sure why you use the term investment as if all your investments turn to crap. There is no possible way that buying a drink could result in a positive return then? Yeah, given what you have been dating, I would agree. You leave little doubt as to what that is Huacho.
And now we got Nounce in here like Osteoknot talking about banging the kept woman on the side as if that is inevitable.
There is a part you guys do not get, and I am not even sure if it is worth bringing up because you all are so certain about her (even more certain than me I might add) and I so enjoy your stories, but do you see it as possible that a woman might, just might refuse a house, car, or $500 bottle of champagne and why they might do so?
I just wonder if even one of you can come within a mile of why my woman or any other woman would refuse such a thing.Just stop being an imbecile. You don't have a 10 either.
Mr Enternational
01-29-23, 02:00
What is observably stupid is you and other mongers going from buying a drink to buying a car and a house. I must have missed the line of guys out the door willing to do that for women.
Quite frankly, if you go back to the hypothetical bar and the woman stops asking for a drink and starts demanding a $500 bottle of champagne, my guess is most guys will have lost interest. I know I would because she has just identified herself as a ho and can be valued as such.You sure do love moving the goal post. In your original post the woman never asked for anything. It was you or other people volunteering to buy a drink. So you are saying she does not get a choice what to drink; she has to drink what is offered?
Why is it that if you spend your money on the girl then she is an elite 10, but if someone else spends less money on the girl then she is not an elite 10; and if even another spends more money than you on the chick then she is a ho?
After you have paid a chick's rent for so many months, guess what you have just done? Paid for a house. And didn't you buy your elite 10 a motorbike to go with the apartment? So if I would have bought the girl a bicycle she would have been a 5, but if someone else bought her a car then she is a ho. That Elvis logic is a mf.
do you see it as possible that a woman might, just might refuse a house, car, or $500 bottle of champagne and why they might do so?
I just wonder if even one of you can come within a mile of why my woman or any other woman would refuse such a thing.Bcos she doesn't want to feel obliged to anyone, least of all someone she doesn't love.
Yeah, given what you have been dating, I would agree. You leave little doubt as to what that is Huacho.You don't have the slightest idea who I see or what I do. I will tell you that what I do not do is 'date. ' And I don't pay women's bills, or give them monthly allowances. And I don't put my balls in any woman's purse.
And this is why you will never get a 10. It is fine if you really do not want one, but it is obvious to me that you and others are insecure that you are getting an inferior product and experience. Gee, I wonder why I do not feel likewise.
What is observably stupid is you and other mongers going from buying a drink to buying a car and a house. I must have missed the line of guys out the door willing to do that for women.
Quite frankly, if you go back to the hypothetical bar and the woman stops asking for a drink and starts demanding a $500 bottle of champagne, my guess is most guys will have lost interest. I know I would because she has just identified herself as a ho and can be valued as such.
And I am not sure why you use the term investment as if all your investments turn to crap. There is no possible way that buying a drink could result in a positive return then? Yeah, given what you have been dating, I would agree. You leave little doubt as to what that is Huacho.
And now we got Nounce in here like Osteoknot talking about banging the kept woman on the side as if that is inevitable.
There is a part you guys do not get, and I am not even sure if it is worth bringing up because you all are so certain about her (even more certain than me I might add) and I so enjoy your stories, but do you see it as possible that a woman might, just might refuse a house, car, or $500 bottle of champagne and why they might do so?
I just wonder if even one of you can come within a mile of why my woman or any other woman would refuse such a thing.Back in 2017 I took a pretty typical Bello girl on a date. Nothing special, just dinner and a movie. And other than her blowjob skills, which were off the charts, there was nothing special about her. She was a good fuck, sexually compatible and easy to be around.
After dinner we had a 90 minute wait for the movie so we walked around Santa Fe mall. I tried to take her in a couple of stores to buy her something, a shirt or dress, again nothing special. She refused and wouldn't let me but her anything.
A few months later I took a girl from El Centro shopping. She lived about 20 blocks east, up the hill from El Centro. I took her to Mayorista, which has a lot of good clothing bargains, cheaper than Poblado, better quality than El Centro. She let me but her 1 thing and complained it was too expensive.
So yes, I fully understand that some women will refuse expensive gifts. Those things have no value to them. A girl can get the same feeling from ca $500 or a $5 bottle of champagne and chances are she can't tell the difference. Try a real world situation. Give her a choice between a new iPhone 13 Pro and the cheapest basic phone you can buy in Colombia. Give her a choice between a week on the beach in Turbo, Colombia or the Maldives. Give her a choice between the cheapest apartment in the worst part of Cartagena or a luxury apartment in a good location. Now you're dealing with things which she values. Feel free to make up whatever response you think best suits your fantasy.
BTW, I eventually had to block both girls. While they weren't interested in gifts of clothing, they had no problems with asking for cash. Why don't you put your girl to that test. Try taking away the money you give her and see how much she values your company.
P.S. I feel bad for Huacho. Apparently he is unable to fuck a woman without you watching him. Tell the truth. Are you spying on him to check out his women, or do you just like his ass?
And this is why you will never get a 10. It is fine if you really do not want one, but it is obvious to me that you and others are insecure that you are getting an inferior product and experience. Gee, I wonder why I do not feel likewise.
What is observably stupid is you and other mongers going from buying a drink to buying a car and a house. I must have missed the line of guys out the door willing to do that for women.
Quite frankly, if you go back to the hypothetical bar and the woman stops asking for a drink and starts demanding a $500 bottle of champagne, my guess is most guys will have lost interest. I know I would because she has just identified herself as a ho and can be valued as such.
And I am not sure why you use the term investment as if all your investments turn to crap. There is no possible way that buying a drink could result in a positive return then? Yeah, given what you have been dating, I would agree. You leave little doubt as to what that is Huacho.
And now we got Nounce in here like Osteoknot talking about banging the kept woman on the side as if that is inevitable.
There is a part you guys do not get, and I am not even sure if it is worth bringing up because you all are so certain about her (even more certain than me I might add) and I so enjoy your stories, but do you see it as possible that a woman might, just might refuse a house, car, or $500 bottle of champagne and why they might do so?
I just wonder if even one of you can come within a mile of why my woman or any other woman would refuse such a thing.I almost forgot to mention something. After much deliberation I've decided to use the 1-10 scale. Even better, I've decided to use the 1-10 scale exactly the same way you and Mami'sBoy use it, with 1 notable exception. I won't use the scale when talking about children, or about women who refuse to acknowledge my existence.
Using your 1-10 scale, every woman I've had sex with over the last 6 years has been at least a 7, and most have been 9's and 10's. Everyone who has ever agreed with me on something over the same period has had similar women, except the best they can get are 9. 5's. Obviously nobody else can get what I get.
Furthermore, every person who has disagreed with me has never had a woman who is better than a 7, mostly they only get 3's and 4's. It's really sad that they just don't have my superior understanding of everything, otherwise they might some day hope to have a 9 or 10.
Stay tuned. Next week I might explain how giving a girl more money for less sex is better.
And this is why you will never get a 10. ...I remember that you said you don't know what is your end game? Is it still true?
I look at this what can be considered as shouting match as love fest. I personally don't want to have only friends that agree with me on everything. I actually don't want that kind of friends.
Your girl is a 10. Can you rate the following cases individually.
The same girl without kid
The same girl that doesn't limit your freedom. Her sexual performance does not require you to promise or commit anything.
The same girl who is independent, does not need support
The divorce is the time you will be able to tell what she really wants from you.
Elvis 2008
01-29-23, 21:33
I remember that you said you don't know what is your end game? Is it still true?Yeah, there is a lot to consider, and I know of no one who is on the path that I am on. It was a lot less opaque just playing the field.
I look at this what can be considered as shouting match as love fest. I personally don't want to have only friends that agree with me on everything. I actually don't want that kind of friends.That is definitely a civilized way to look at it. What I see are guys so invested in knowing it all and having it all figured out they are threatened when someone comes up with a better model. They claim to be all happy and have it all figured out when it is obvious that is not the case.
Your girl is a 10.That is why my friends said with regards to her looks. A 10 may just be a girl guys want to fuck but not have a relationship with. Others who have actually met her would actually focus much more on her personality and character and have expressed a desire to find someone like her.
With a kid, it depends on the kid. If the kid was a bad kid, I would not be with said woman no matter what her value is. I think a good kid enhances the relationship. You could say the kid is a cost but that could be true of any kid. So why have them at all? To me, it is repayment for what my parents did for me. So initially they are an investment in karma, but there is an immediate payoff. Kids can be a shit load of fun and a joy helping them accomplish their goals in life.
I think most guys think when you hook up with just one woman your sex life goes to shit, and I know of only one guy where that did not happen. Before her, I was only sexually satisfied seeing multiple women. So "freedom" for me meant sexual satisfaction as I suspect it was for many guys. And that is the strange part here. A breakup and my sex life likely gets worse.
As for expenses, if I worked three weeks and came down to Colombia for one week, stayed in a hotel for a week, and spent $500 a week banging strange, would anyone here be saying anything?
The divorce is the time you will be able to tell what she really wants from you.I had a lawyer joke with me and say if you marry her, she will get divorced 2 years and one minute after you are married (I. E. After she gets her green card). Then in the next breath he said, "You know but that really is not that bad of a deal. " And if you have a prenup with that provision, she has no claim to your assets at all. But does that work if I file for divorce or does it have to be her? And do I want that and does she? You never fucking know what your life is going to be like in 2 years let alone what hers and her kid would be like in the USA.
Premarital agreements are the most voided contracts there are and in reality if you divorce, your life will be determined solely by a judge. So it may not be what she wants but what she agreed to. The issue is I do not know what some random judge will do and neither do you.
Elvis 2008
01-30-23, 06:16
So you are saying she does not get a choice what to drink; she has to drink what is offered?This is as dumb as your smithers as gay comment.
Elvis 2008
01-30-23, 06:18
You don't have the slightest idea who I see or what I do.You just admitted you fuck ugly women and you do not buy women drinks. It is pretty obvious what you date and why you are piling on. You cannot handle someone doing better than you.
You just admitted you fuck ugly women and you do not buy women drinks. It is pretty obvious what you date and why you are piling on. You cannot handle someone doing better than you.I think we're all pretty aware of your poor reading comprehension skills but what I actually said is that it isn't a privilege to buy a woman a drink. I never said I never did it. You aren't doing better than I am just because you are paying some hooker a monthly fee to pretend to like your fat ass.
LuvMexicanas
01-30-23, 21:16
You just admitted you fuck ugly women and you do not buy women drinks. It is pretty obvious what you date and why you are piling on. You cannot handle someone doing better than you.Single moms are pump and dump only. Your decision to play house with one is your call, but assessing her as a 10 is not something anyone else has to agree with yet you try so hard to convince others of that.
DramaFree11
01-31-23, 10:08
Single moms are pump and dump only. Your decision to play house with one is your call, but assessing her as a 10 is not something anyone else has to agree with yet you try so hard to convince others of that.LovMudd. , maybe you could take a trip to Colombia and meet Elvis. You guys could work out your disagreements, but that require your cheap Ass taking a trip, abroad. You have never been to Colombia, so why are you involved. This just shows how truly angry and jealous you are. You and a couple of other haters complain about everything.
I do think you would fit in perfectly with the other clowns on this this page, jealous, angry and hate others having fun. Elvis is not perfect, but he gives some good advice. I can careless how much he gives her, I am sure it is more then let's on, but how cares. You guys could learn a few things from Elvis.
There is nothing wrong with women that have kids and probably most of the women you are banging have kids. Try and be nice.
Elvis 2008
01-31-23, 16:29
I never said I never did it.Well, that is a crystal clear sentence. Is it my reading or your shit writing that is the issue?
what I actually said is that it isn't a privilege to buy a woman a drink.Didn't you say it was stupid to buy a drink? So have you done it or not? And if you did and it is stupid and you did it, why did you do it?
You aren't doing better than I am just because you are paying some hooker a monthly fee to pretend to like your fat ass. So I do not know what women are dating, but you know this woman is pretending to like me? LOL.
Maybe try posting before you drink your nightly twelve pack.
Mr Enternational
01-31-23, 17:38
Elvis is not perfect, but he gives some good advice. I can careless how much he gives her, I am sure it is more then let's on, but how cares. You guys could learn a few things from Elvis.If you like a chick that doesn't like you, then pay for her family to relocate to another country? If you like a chick that chose to have a kid with a deadbeat drug addict, then step in and take on the responsibility? Make sure you pay a chick's rent on time every month? Yep, the good advice from Elvis never stops flowing.
Elvis 2008
01-31-23, 18:24
Back in 2017 I took a pretty typical Bello girl on a date. Nothing special, just dinner and a movie. And other than her blowjob skills, which were off the charts, there was nothing special about her. I tried to take her in a couple of stores to buy her something, a shirt or dress, again nothing special. She refused and wouldn't let me but her anything. BTW, I eventually had to block both girls. While they weren't interested in gifts of clothing, they had no problems with asking for cash.Wow, you really do not understand women. Here is what happened. For some stupid reason you put on this air of being a legit man and provider. She thinks you are going to be loyal and see only her, and she shows you that she can be a frugal partner. When she realizes that she is "nothing special" and you are a just a john paying to get laid, she does what most women do and inflates the value of her pussy to suck you dry.
The first meet with any woman should not be dinner and a movie but a drink where you assess what kind of woman she will be: wife material, girl friend, sugar baby, or hooker. You should never give the hooker anything outside of cash when you are done. With a sugar baby, the gifts should be only what benefits you, and yes, I violated that rule and was wrong in doing so.
Give her a choice between a new iPhone 13 Pro and the cheapest basic phone you can buy in Colombia.LOL. She bought her own damned Iphone, and in part because she did not want a new one and in part to show she was a good partner, she refused an upgrade.
Why don't you put your girl to that test. Try taking away the money you give her and see how much she values your company.She already passed the test. For the first six months, she asked for nothing. After that, her Covid pay was done, and she had a job in a city in a very rural area. She did not ask, "Hey can you pay my salary so we can be together?" She said that she was sad because she had to take the job and would not see me much.
And what is this "wouldn't let me buy her anything?" Oh, you mean women let you buy them a drink? Or not let you buy them a new Iphone? Or let you pay for their rent? So here you go again and shoot yourself in the ass. I thought all women were greedy pigs out to suck men dry. Maybe you can twist yourself into a knot explaining that one like Huacho did.
I will try for you. I never said I did not never have a woman let me not buy nothing. Hope that clears things up.
And you all act like the traditional roles do not exist. A suitor is a guy trying to get a woman to marry him, and the more desired the woman, the more suitors there are. A man is vying with other men to take on the role of provider from the father (or in my case from the woman herself). And the winning suitor "gets to" care for the woman in exchange for sex, companionship, child rearing ETC. When did this totally stop?
As for the elite part, I only brought that up because what I saw were the only Colombian women worthy of commitment were in those in white collar jobs or studying to be, and others found the same thing.
Unlike in centuries past, I did not inquire about family wealth. Only when I mentioned that previously I had family members hit me up for stuff that I learned of her family's wealth and why that would not happen. Tt was just bits and pieces. This aunt owns so many houses. Grandfather has a business that employs a lot of people ETC. I still do not know the extent of their wealth nor do I care.
When you said guys here were not dating the elite, JJBee, Don Carlos and I already were, and I am sure Miami Boy has or will be. DC even told you that a few hundred bucks did not mean much to the women he was seeing. And that $500 a month you dummies think is so important could have been provided then by my gal herself or obviously by her family. She chose to not "let herself" (there is that let world again) be dependent on her family and she "let herself" be dependent on me.
So how do I know you are seeing fat and ugly women? Because you losers are not stepping up in the suitor game.
Lebron, all you and your crew are showing me is that you do not have the balls, money, and game to step up and try to get a 10 and are content to say "Our 5's are as good as your 10's. " If you cannot get off your ass and go for the best, then shut up and be happy with what you have instead of continuing to make asses of yourselves.
I do think you would fit in perfectly with the other clowns on this this page, jealous, angry and hate others having fun. Elvis is not perfect, but he gives some good advice. I can careless how much he gives her, I am sure it is more then let's on, but how cares. You guys could learn a few things from Elvis.
There is nothing wrong with women that have kids and probably most of the women you are banging have kids. Try and be nice.I'll try to avoid being a hater for a moment. Who on here hates other people having fun? Of all the people here, with the exception of a few trolls, I don't think anyone comes across as hating others having fun. Also, I'm going to be presumptuous and state that nobody is jealous of Elvis.
If Elvis stuck with giving good advice, there wouldn't be any issues with him. However, most of his posts, even those which might contain good advice have 1 of 2 things. Either there is a claim, not just of superiority, but of supremacy, or there's an insistence of someone else's inferiority. Frankly, nobody really cares whether his girl makes Miss Universe look like a 3, or if she makes Whoopi Goldberg look like a 10. It's all of the "nobody can get as good as I can" and "you can only get fat and ugly girls" foolishness that makes him an easy target.
What is it we can learn from Elvis? I'm sure everyone here knows how to find women and how to fuck them. I'm also certain they're able to find women who fit all their basic requirements. With regards to ISG, isn't that what matters?
Each one has different objectives. Learning about marrying a woman and moving her family to the US doesn't help someone who has no desire to get married. Learning how to have a Sugar baby won't help those who just want one and done. Learning how to spend $100 per month to find girls who expect $100+ per date is of no benefit to a guy who fucks 40 women a month and spends $200 doing it.
You're right. There's nothing wrong with banging girls with kids, or with banging 34 year old women with kids. What's wrong is repeatedly making the claims that hooking up with a 34 year old woman, with a kid, in Colombia, is a feat which nobody else could ever achieve. Literally it only takes 3 steps.
1. Say Hello.
2. Ask her age.
3. If she is 34, ask if she has kids.
The only obstacle is that she might be married or have an average or better boyfriend. If she doesn't, at worst getting a date is a 50-50 proposition.
It's simple. At that age, her chances of finding a dependable partner who is able to support her and who will be loyal are slim and on a starvation diet. It doesn't matter what she looks like, because in Colombia there's always someone young, pretty and willing, with a lot less drama. An opportunity for a good meal, in a nice restaurant, with a man who can afford to travel internationally? It's not exactly a hard sell. Add in that he's looking for sex and might be generous and panties are dropping.
I've been stressing the age, 34, for a reason. For most women that's right in the range when they start to go downhill. Even with great effort the body starts to give in to the years, but that's not the worst part. The worst part is that's when the hormones start getting payback. Mid 30's women are a blast to fuck, perhaps that's the best age for the best sex. However, it's at the beginning of the worst age range to play house, in my experience.
Now, with all of that, it doesn't matter. If it's what Elvis wants, if he's enjoying himself, that's fabulous. I sincerely wish him the absolute best with it. I just wish he'd stop insisting that everyone wants what he has and that nobody else can get it (unless they agree with him and tell everyone how wonderful he is).
LuvMexicanas
01-31-23, 21:00
LovMudd. , maybe you could take a trip to ColombiaAren't you the guy who goes on every ISG thread unrelated to Colombia and whenever Colombia is mentioned, you utterly trash it and tell people not to ever go there? You're also the same guy who posted he'd been to Tijuana 30 times during the first year of the pandemic even though your post history clearly debunks that. I will give you credit that when you lie, you go for the gusto. Finally, I revert back to your lie about living in Ukraine twice in one post and three times in another post. Which is it? The problem with lies is you have to keep them straight.
Mr Enternational
01-31-23, 22:50
Didn't you say it was stupid to buy a drink? So have you done it or not? And if you did and it is stupid and you did it, why did you do it?.So you can neither read nor scroll. You have to be trolling because nobody could really be this stupid. Well since you consider it a privilege to spend your money on someone maybe you are not just trolling.
It's not a 'privilege' to buy anybody a drink. It might be a kindness, it might be an investment, it might just be your shout, but anyone who thinks it is a 'privilege' to buy any person of any gender of any level of attractiveness a drink is observably stupid. I've known mongers to buy cars for hookers (or motos ja ja Osteo) and that is also observably stupid.
DramaFree11
02-01-23, 03:31
Aren't you the guy who goes on every ISG thread unrelated to Colombia and whenever Colombia is mentioned, you utterly trash it and tell people not to ever go there? You're also the same guy who posted he'd been to Tijuana 30 times during the first year of the pandemic even though your post history clearly debunks that. I will give you credit that when you lie, you go for the gusto. Finally, I revert back to your lie about living in Ukraine twice in one post and three times in another post. Which is it? The problem with lies is you have to keep them straight.Joker pup the lies. I have invited you several times to meet me, you never show up. Yes, Colombia sucks, but I have actually been to MDE, unlike you.
Elvis 2008
02-01-23, 04:37
I just wish he'd stop insisting that everyone wants what he has and that nobody else can get it (unless they agree with him and tell everyone how wonderful he is).Uh, wrong. I tell the truth about my life, and you cannot handle it. I am not the one refusing to use the 1 to 10 scale objectively, telling guys they cannot date the elite, always making bets with everyone.
I am telling guys they can date the elites and 10's, and you are saying they cannot. With your crew, everything is we can get better for cheaper than you, and I am telling everyone that you all are full of shit.
Hell, you had a girl from estrato 4 so my girl had to be lower. Of course, she was from estrato 6 and as I said, I did not care, but you sure as hell did. So you lost 6 to 4 with your rules. LOL.
And your butt buddy Viliany makes this comment about how the elites go to college, and if she was elite, she would have had to meet in college, and she and her baby's father did not meet there. Well, they did meet in university. I am laughing at how I could have corrected him but what then? The university was not elite? Her major would not have been elite? The question then became: why is your crew so invested in putting her down? And the answer is you all cannot handle someone doing better than you.
I am out of the game man. This was not winning an argument. It was identifying to everyone the fucking losers with the inferiority complexes who do not want other board members here to do well. It was payback for your all fucking harassment and now everyone knows who the jealous asshole losers really are.
And let me tell you from a popularity contest with Covid, you won, but that is not the game I was playing. My game was challenging everyone else to gain knowledge. Was Covid another scare like AIDS and condoms from the government, or was it real? I argued to see what I missed. Well, there were more risks than AIDS for sure but once I had the appropriate risk: benefit scale, I played Covid to my advantage and had the time of my life. And without Covid, I never would have met the woman who is the envy of every friend I have. So you won the argument on a hooker forum, and I got a 10. Feel better now, Mr. Winner?
Wow! When you get something wrong, you don't mess around with just minor misunderstanding. You don't even go off on a tangent, which at least briefly touches the subject,. You warp yourself straight to another dimension (actually another set of dimensions, but that's a physics thing and like basic English, beyond your ability to comprehend).
Wow, you really do not understand women. Here is what happened. For some stupid reason you put on this air of being a legit man and provider. She thinks you are going to be loyal and see only her, and she shows you that she can be a frugal partner. When she realizes that she is "nothing special" and you are a just a john paying to get laid, she does what most women do and inflates the value of her pussy to suck you dry.What? Where in fuck did you get that? Example #1 was a girl I fucked and paid several times. I also gave her the thumbs up for a few other BMs, who also fucked and paid her. One night I felt like catching a movie, probably after 4 or 5 fucks with her. In fact, I had fucked her that afternoon. A few hours later, when the urge to see a movie hit, I asked if she wanted to go with me and offered dinner, because I planned on eating before the movie. I never put on any air of being a provider, nor suggested that I was looking for a girlfriend, wife or anything else. Because we were in the mall and had time to kill, I asked if she wanted anything and tried to head into a store, maybe Falabella? She said she didn't want anything and didn't want to go in any of the stores. I don't know why you think that she thought I was going to be loyal. She had more than once seen me taking other women, including a girl she brought out to me.
When she started asking for money was almost 2 years after the last time I had seen her. I guess it just took her awhile to figure it out, right?
Example #2 I never had sex with solo. It was always 3 somes with her. She also cleaned the apartment 3 or 4 times, along with her mother. She had a boyfriend and I never suggested I was going to replace him. I just enjoy 3 somes with truly bisexual women. Mayorista is walking distance from the apartment, and I walked there often. 1 day I took her with me. The rest followed. Once again, the requests for money came long after I'd been back in the US.
So, completely wrong on that one. Let's see what alternate universe your next one takes us to.
The first meet with any woman should not be dinner and a movie but a drink where you assess what kind of woman she will be: wife material, girl friend, sugar baby, or hooker. You should never give the hooker anything outside of cash when you are done. With a sugar baby, the gifts should be only what benefits you, and yes, I violated that rule and was wrong in doing so.First off, dinner and a movie wasn't the first meet. The first meet was probably after I had seen her several times in the bar where I hung out. Almost all the customers were gringos and girls frequently went in looking for customers. She spent a few hours each time giving me the eye, but I wasn't interested, not my type. One night another gringo was complaining he couldn't find a girl, so I pointed her out. He gave her a pretty good review, so I decided to give her a try. Do I get points because I probably bought her a drink before we went to fuck? Anyway, as I mentioned, incredible BJ skills and sexual compatibility convinced me to see her several times. Mostly because she was right there in the bar.
As you might have figured out, I already knew she was a hooker and had no need to assess anything. Certainly I'm not stupid enough to meet someone once and decide on anything other than "are we going to fuck?
As expected, even Captain Kirk never went to where you boldly and blindly went.
LOL. She bought her own damned Iphone, and in part because she did not want a new one and in part to show she was a good partner, she refused an upgrade.Uh-huh. As someone else mentioned, you do have a thing about moving the goalposts and a thing about making it up as you go along. The question isn't what she did, or what you claimed she did. The question was, to take her tired old ass to the Claro store, tell her you're going to buy her a phone and to give her 2 and only 2 choices.
She already passed the test. For the first six months, she asked for nothing. After that, her Covid pay was done, and she had a job in a city in a very rural area. She did not ask, "Hey can you pay my salary so we can be together?" She said that she was sad because she had to take the job and would not see me much.That wasn't the original story, but we already covered how facts aren't really a consideration when you're being creative.
And what is this "wouldn't let me buy her anything?" Oh, you mean women let you buy them a drink? Or not let you buy them a new Iphone? Or let you pay for their rent? So here you go again and shoot yourself in the ass. I thought all women were greedy pigs out to suck men dry. Maybe you can twist yourself into a knot explaining that one like Huacho did.Forget Captain Kirk. Even Timothy Leary never took a trip so far from reality. It's going to be a real simple knot, like the one on your head, which caused the concussion, which seems to be muddling your thinking. We were in a mall. We were standing outside a store. I asked if she wanted to go in the store. I said I would buy her something. She said she didn't want anything. She then said she didn't want to go in the store. What part of that was confusing?
I don't know if she would have let me pay her rent or buy her an iPhone, because I never offered. That seems like an irrational leap. "Hey, since we're waiting to see a movie, why don't I pay your rent, buy you a new phone and pay for your family to move to Peru? Or maybe just some popcorn?
Obviously this will confuse you, but I don't do that, except for the popcorn. If I'm meeting with a hooker, I might buy drinks, or dinner. I might take her to a movie or to Parque Arvi. Afterwards we fuck and I pay her. If she's a hooker I've seen a few times, I might give a little, inexpensive gift. I don't meet a hooker and then suggest that I pay her rent or relocate her family.
If I'm looking for a wife, or a girlfriend I'm not searching for her on a hooker website. If she's on a hooker website, either she's a hooker, or she's incredibly stupid and doesn't realize she's on a hooker website. I have high standards. Hookers and incredibly stupid women don't make the cut. And Seeking, formerly Seeking Arrangement, has always been a hooker website. The only difference between someone "Seeking an Arrangement" and a hooker, is that one is on salary and the other works hourly.
I will try for you. I never said I did not never have a woman let me not buy nothing. Hope that clears things up.Since nothing like that was mentioned, there's nothing to clear up, at least on my end. Clearing up anything for you would take a the-9 Caterpillar and a lot of explosives.
And you all act like the traditional roles do not exist. A suitor is a guy trying to get a woman to marry him, and the more desired the woman, the more suitors there are. A man is vying with other men to take on the role of provider from the father (or in my case from the woman herself). And the winning suitor "gets to" care for the woman in exchange for sex, companionship, child rearing ETC. When did this totally stop?Spoken like a man who thinks he has to be worthy of a woman. Who the fuck goes on a hooker website and tries to get a woman to marry him? Who is so desperate he will compete with other men to marry a hooker, let alone marry one and raise her kids?
Traditional roles require you to impress a woman's father. Because traditional roles require that the father chooses husbands for his daughters. The daughter has no say in the matter. Or are you just making these traditions up as you go along? The winning suitor gets to pay the father the price he has set for the daughter. In no situation does the choice lie with the daughter.
Of course, those traditional roles no longer hold in much of the world and you obviously don't believe in them. Otherwise, you would have immediately insisted that she quit her job. Because the traditional mother's place is in the home, keeping the house, raising the children and remaining shielded from temptation. Not to mention, you would have rejected her outright, because it's her father's role to support her until a suitor has paid for her pussy.
As for the elite part, I only brought that up because what I saw were the only Colombian women worthy of commitment were in those in white collar jobs or studying to be, and others found the same thing.Worthy of commitment? But traditional roles do not require the man to commit sexually to 1 woman. In fact, depending on how traditional you want to go, a man is expected to seek other outlets for his lustful desires as sex with his wife is for procreation. Other women are for recreation. Of course you're forgetting that traditional roles require that a woman seeking a traditional husband doesn't work and only studies subjects helpful to providing comfort to her husband.
Let's forget for a moment that you directly contradicted yourself with traditional roles and white collar jobs. A woman with a white collar job is not the best choice for commitment, stereotypically. Certainly not for someone hung up on traditional roles. First, she has no need for you. She can pay her own way. Second it puts her out where every other guy can compete for her affection. Finally, when she decides she's done with you, she's in a better position to acquire more of your shit. That blue collar girl knows she can't get a better situation and she is thrilled to give up her job and live the good life.
Your choice is between a woman you have to fight to keep and a woman who will fight to keep you.
Unlike in centuries past, I did not inquire about family wealth. Only when I mentioned that previously I had family members hit me up for stuff that I learned of her family's wealth and why that would not happen. Tt was just bits and pieces. This aunt owns so many houses. Grandfather has a business that employs a lot of people ETC. I still do not know the extent of their wealth nor do I care.Again, Uh-huh. Isn't it amazing how her family history develops as if by magic? At least try to make it believable. Why would you bring that up to begin with? Unless of course one of her family members had hit you up for something. Besides, if her family is swimming in wealth, it would have been immediately obvious. Just a few minutes of conversation would have told you her family's social standing.
Even assuming you are clueless enough to bring the subject up (which you obviously are) why mention an aunt and a grandfather and skip the parents? Is she an only child? Does she only have 1 aunt? If her parents are dead, then she already has the wealth. Besides, owning "so many" houses in Colombia doesn't require much wealth. 1 house is "so many. " Neither does running a business with a lot of employees (6 is a lot for some businesses, for others it's10,000). Although, I'm impressed. Her grandfather almost has to be in his 70's and 80 isn't unreasonable. That's amazing he hasn't passed the business down. But it's a whole family full of unbelievable things.
When you said guys here were not dating the elite, JJBee, Don Carlos and I already were, and I am sure Miami Boy has or will be. DC even told you that a few hundred bucks did not mean much to the women he was seeing. And that $500 a month you dummies think is so important could have been provided then by my gal herself or obviously by her family. She chose to not "let herself" (there is that let world again) be dependent on her family and she "let herself" be dependent on me.Yes, of course. Although, just like your 1-10 scale, elite is simply your hyperbole hard at work. I perfectly understand women who don't consider a few hundred bucks as a lot of money. Why would a woman with significant wealth in her grasp, already being supported at a level beyond her dreams, turn away for pocket change?
The problem is that you have always defined every woman who you paid to fuck (sorry. I meant that you won over from her hoards of suitors) as "elite. " When you chose to post pictures of those "elite" girls they were just typical girls which you can find easier than peanut butter in Colombia. For all anyone knows "your woman" makes Aphrodite jealous, is a Nobel Laureate, owns a controlling interest in Apple and can suck a basketball through 50 feet of IV tubing. Or she's just a typical 34 year old Colombian mother. Nobody but you knows and you've shown that your descriptions can't be trusted.
So how do I know you are seeing fat and ugly women? Because you losers are not stepping up in the suitor game.
Lebron, all you and your crew are showing me is that you do not have the balls, money, and game to step up and try to get a 10 and are content to say "Our 5's are as good as your 10's. " If you cannot get off your ass and go for the best, then shut up and be happy with what you have instead of continuing to make asses of yourselves.In the suitor game? You should have put that first. It would have saved all that writing. Although it is amusing seeing how badly you can misunderstand simple sentences.
Nobody else is playing "the suitor game. " Nobody else wants to play the suitor game. Even if anyone did want to play the suitor game, they would be crazy to play it in a third world country.
What everyone else is doing is fucking. Some are fucking a few girls, some are fucking many. Some are just fucking 1. And everyone is fucking the girls who appeal to them. Everyone is looking for different qualities. Everyone has different opinions on everything about the whole selection and fucking process. If you ever learned to comprehend what you read, that would be blatantly obvious.
Nobody is looking for a woman to marry and certainly not a woman who is, at best, just beginning the downward spiral into mediocrity. Nobody is looking for a chance to raise someone else's kid.
Balls, money and game? What in the fuck are you babbling about?
Balls? It takes balls to say "if you will fuck me I'll support your worn out ass?" Although it does take some balls to say "your teenage daughter is at the top of my fuckable scale and I'm going to pimp her out in a few years. " However, I doubt if you've told her that yet. A lot of "you can't tell anyone" going on there?
Money? Why throw thousands into a $20 hole? Besides, money is what you use if you don't have:
Game. You have no clue what game is. If you did you wouldn't be putting girls in apartments, moving families, supporting kids and spending all kinds of money trying to prove you're worthy of a woman. Correction, more worthy than everyone else she's fucking.
Besides, I already cleared all that up. Using your scale every woman I'm fucking is automatically a 10, while my "crew" are all fucking 9's. I just don't see any reason to bother with marrying an old one and raising her kid. That's like looking for the stale, moldy bread and buying 1 slice for the price of 30 loaves.
Elvis 2008
02-01-23, 08:10
So you can neither read nor scroll. You have to be trolling because nobody could really be this stupid. Well since you consider it a privilege to spend your money on someone maybe you are not just trolling.Uh no, Huacho got caught trying to change the word expense to investment and you are the one who is stupid for buying into it. An expense is never a privilege but an investment could be.
But I did not give a shit about the semantics. What is pretty obvious to me and I think everyone here is you two losers are opposed to even buying a woman a drink. Like Huacho, Mr. E, you can try to back out of it, but you are not going to convince anyone. And if you are not going to buy women drinks, you certainly are not going to get the most sought after women.
And if you are not going to buy women drinks, you certainly are not going to get the most sought after women.Since we are here on this section of the forum, I will ask a Q that we have discussed before. Elvis, why would someone want to "get the most sought after women"?
I mean, for example. I never listen to the most sought after music. I like my own choices. I don't buy a car based on which model is most popular either. Why would I seek the most sought after women? I am curious why someone would want to do that. Knowing Mr E just a little, I know he DOES (at least occassionally) buy drinks for girls, but I am almost 100% certain he would not be seeking "the most sought after women".
.... I've known mongers to buy cars for hookers (or motos ja ja Osteo) and that is also observably stupid.Technically, he bought the moto for his girlfriend. He did not pay for sex with her. It's like Mr E has mentioned that he recently found out his girlfriend actually is a hooker after he posted their WhatsApp conversation. I don't know what part makes that stupid?
Mr Enternational
02-01-23, 18:14
Technically, he bought the moto for his girlfriend. He did not pay for sex with her. I don't know what part makes that stupid?Because people are using the same word to mean different things. Was it his girlfriend in a traditional sense? From his reports it seems it wasn't. It seemed like a hooker he was seeing on a regular basis that spent a lot of time with him and they would do drugs, pick up other chicks, etc. Shit does happens, but I would say one would be hard pressed or the luckiest guy in the world to just waltz into town and soon meet a traditional girlfriend that will go along with all the shenanigans. It did not sound like a chick that had a regular job and he would wait until she got off work and go on family outings together. I could be wrong. It was hard to get through the majority of those reports.
LuvMexicanas
02-01-23, 18:38
Joker pup the lies. I have invited you several times to meet me, you never show up.Just can't stop lying can you? You've never invited me to Tijuana.
Uh, wrong. I tell the truth about my life, and you cannot handle it. I am not the one refusing to use the 1 to 10 scale objectively, telling guys they cannot date the elite, always making bets with everyone.You wouldn't know the truth if it crawled up your ass and gave birth to an elephant. Besides, I have no trouble handling your life, because I really don't care. Your desperate claims are nothing more than the wailing of a toddler because he's not getting any attention from mommy.
Always making bets? When someone says, and I'm paraphrasing, "80,000 US deaths from Covid? I'll take the under on that every time", of course I'll make the bet. When someone says "I bet you can't do this" and it's something I've already done, again I'll take the bet. What am I supposed to do? It's not my fault people are too stupid to realize they're offering bets and too weak and pathetic to stand behind their claims. Although I'll give partial credit to Mami'sBoy. He did agree to bet a meaningless sum, although I'm almost certain he'll pull an Elvis and move the goalposts when it's time to pay.
A 1-10 scale isn't objective. It can't be used objectively. Your main complaint is that people aren't doing something that can't be done. You've certainly never used it objectively.
But you can fix that. I'll even simplify it for you and only ask you to quantify 10 factors which go into determining a woman's sexual attractiveness to men. Assign your 10 value to the measurement of each.
1. Height -how tall is a 10? How much does 1 inch in height change the 1-10 rating?
2. Weight. How much does a 10 weigh? How does the rating vary for heavier vs lighter?
3. Skin color. What shade of skin does a 10 have?
4. Hair color. Is a 10 a blonde, brunette, redhead, multi-colored?
5. Hair length. What length of hair earns a 10 rating?
6-8. Measurements. Chest, waist and hips. What number gets a 10 rating for each?
9. Breast size. Not to be confused with chest measurement. Which bra cup size earns a 10 rating?
10. Age. How old is a 10?
Once you've assigned a numeric value to each objective measurement, for every possible value above 1, you can objectively measure a woman, average her scores and, even though it's still subjective, at least there's a basis for comparison. I'll give a simple example:
Height - 10 is 4'11" to 5'1". Drops by 1 per inch under 4'11" to 4'6", then drops by 2 per inch. Drops by 0. 25 per inch above 5'1" to 5'8", then by 0. 5 per inch. So at 5' a girl is a 10 in height, but at 5'11" she would be 6. 75.
Did the light just come on? You're thinking "no way is someone 5' tall a 10. " Right? If I gave you a definitive scale for all 10, you'd almost certainly disagree with every one. And that's grossly oversimplified. To fully quantify beauty requires some really hairy calculus, because physical beauty deals with various ratios, which don't change linearly.
And even if someone came up with such a scale, nobody would agree with it. Why? Because "beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ".
I am telling guys they can date the elites and 10's, and you are saying they cannot. With your crew, everything is we can get better for cheaper than you, and I am telling everyone that you all are full of shit.No. I've been telling guys they are almost all getting girls from the same pool. And most of them aren't "dating. " They're fucking. Sometimes they fuck the same girl for several days, sometimes they fuck several girls every day. Some are paying 50 k, others pay 500 k, but chances are, the 500 k girls live in the same type of situation as the 50 k girls.
When CFI's (Clueless Fucking Idiots) start trying to rationalize that their girl is "elite", show me on the map where she lives. She might be prettier, have better clothes and know how to speak English, but her chassis rolled out of the same factory as the girls on the street in El Centro.
Hell, you had a girl from estrato 4 so my girl had to be lower. Of course, she was from estrato 6 and as I said, I did not care, but you sure as hell did. So you lost 6 to 4 with your rules. LOL.If you didn't care, why do you keep bringing it up? Why did you demonstrate that you know nothing about the estrato system? Again, show me on the map where your old lady grew up. Show me on the map where she lived before you started paying her.
I'll repeat it again because you're a CFI. The estrato system is really nothing more than a generalized property tax assessment map. It's similar to the way property taxes are assessed in the US. A nice house in a bad neighborhood pays lower taxes than the same house in a better neighborhood. It's an objective map developed by the government for distribution of services, allocation of resources and taxation. There are no estrato 4 or 6 people. It's lines on a map.
I didn't lose anything. First, you had no clue about estratos, until I explained it. Second your old lady (I refuse to call a Colombian old enough to be a grandmother "girl") wasn't from estrato 6, wasn't from a wealthy family until after I pointed out the estrato system. And finally, it's not a competition. I'm fucking who I want, when I want and where I want. You're babbling about marrying retirement age hookers and raising their kids. Completely different game.
And your butt buddy Viliany makes this comment about how the elites go to college, and if she was elite, she would have had to meet in college, and she and her baby's father did not meet there. Well, they did meet in university. I am laughing at how I could have corrected him but what then? The university was not elite? Her major would not have been elite? The question then became: why is your crew so invested in putting her down? And the answer is you all cannot handle someone doing better than you.Pretty sure you completely missed his point, but what else is new. Socially "elite" families tend towards conservative values. Slutty daughters getting knocked up violates those values and hurts family reputation. While it's no big deal for the lower classes, it's rare amongst the "elite. ".
I am out of the game man. This was not winning an argument. It was identifying to everyone the fucking losers with the inferiority complexes who do not want other board members here to do well. It was payback for your all fucking harassment and now everyone knows who the jealous asshole losers really are.Inferiority complexes? Who on ISG says things like "nobody can do what I've done?" That's just 1 of 100 times or more where you've claimed ridiculous shit trying to make yourself look better. Then you claim everyone wants what you have, when almost everyone else is laughing at what you have. That's why everyone else is here, because they have no interest in waking up to a worn out old piece of ass and have to pay to raise her kids. Almost everyone else would rather fuck something young and sweet and then send her away.
Don't want other board members to do well? That's mainly what I do. I answer questions, offer advice and help others do well when they visit Medellin. I don't waste their time with meaningless bullshit about how wonderful and perfect some old hooker is. I tell them what they need to know.
Now we're all losers? There's nothing to be jealous of. There's nothing about your situation that anyone wants. But losers? In what? Practically everyone else on ISG just wants to find girls to fuck. They aren't looking for "The Idiot's Guide to Marrying Old Colombian Hookers with Kids. " If they were, you'd have a best seller.
In the ISG game winning is easy.
1. Travel internationally.
2. Fuck.
3. Repeat as necessary.
4. Don't get stuck with 1 old hooker.
Hmmm. Looks like everyone but you has a perfect score.
And let me tell you from a popularity contest with Covid, you won, but that is not the game I was playing. My game was challenging everyone else to gain knowledge. Was Covid another scare like AIDS and condoms from the government, or was it real? I argued to see what I missed. Well, there were more risks than AIDS for sure but once I had the appropriate risk: benefit scale, I played Covid to my advantage and had the time of my life. And without Covid, I never would have met the woman who is the envy of every friend I have. So you won the argument on a hooker forum, and I got a 10. Feel better now, Mr. Winner?You've never gained knowledge. How can you challenge others to do what you've never attempted?
Ah yes. This is an example of that knowledge? Over 10,000 people die from AIDS in the US each year and more than 50 k are newly infected with HIV. Protection against HIV infection is a common topic on ISG. While risk of transmission is very low for heterosexual men, there's no denying the severity of AIDS. Fortunately, there are now drugs to control the HIV infection. It certainly wasn't a government scare. Since the government refused to acknowledge the existence of AIDS for several years.
And Covid. Your stance on Covid changed quicker than the diapers in a maternity ward and had the exact same content. You flip-flopped every day on everything. And every single time you were shown to be full of shit. I'll just toss a number out. Now remember, you firmly stated that US Covid deaths would never exceed 80,000. 1. 12 million. Just in the US.
Which brings us back to the old woman who is the envy of every friend you have.
1. If they're your friend, their judgment is already horrible. After all, you're the guy who proclaimed what a great friend Paulie was. Yet, when I detailed just how good of a friend Paulie was, even though he's been on ISG longer, not 1 single person, not even you, came to his defense. Even Paulie stayed off ISG for a month after that.
2. You appear to only have 1 or 2 friends and if they're anything like you, they would be envious of almost any woman with a pulse.
There's no argument to win. You're arguing that everyone wants to marry worn out old hookers with kids and everyone else is saying "ewwww. " You're arguing that nobody else will use a subjective scale objectively and everyone else is saying "how the fuck do you do that. " You're arguing that you're the best at everything and everyone else is jealous and has an inferiority complex, while everyone else is laughing at you being a textbook example of an inferiority complex.
Technically, he bought the moto for his girlfriend. He did not pay for sex with her. It's like Mr E has mentioned that he recently found out his girlfriend actually is a hooker after he posted their WhatsApp conversation. I don't know what part makes that stupid?She wasn't his girlfriend in reality, is the point. She was just one of many hookers he was fucking. Remember how he kept re-numbering his chicas? The only way buying a hooker a moto makes any sense is if you are going to be seeing her for a heck of a long time and want to take away one potential excuse for being maddenlying late all the fucking time..
So JJBee living out his life typing out War and Peace on Stupid Shit. I don't even need to read the drawn out posts, which I haven't. What we see though is a life lost, desperately grasping for some kind of validation on a thread formed to segregate disruptions or anything else that deters us from the forum's purpose. JJBee, die in peace.
Anthony2023
02-02-23, 07:33
My god you losers are still babbling about the same BS smh. You gossip more than housewives LOL, just joking don't get butt hurt. I just got back from Medellin a couple days ago. Had an amazing time, already making plans to go back! And no miraculously the only thing I got drowned in was pussy not scopolamine. Got to do tourist things, enjoyed many nice restaurant's with my "elite" looking instagram thot who wanted to stay with me the whole trip LOL, and learned a lot about the history and culture. The only bad impression I received were some douche bag foreigners coming off the plane being loud and wearing shades at the airport like they were ready to hit lleras, I thought to myself no wonder locals don't like these type of imbeciles. Other than that it was a blast. Obviously didn't have time to be on here during my trip, but now that I'm back I'll be glad to answer any questions any newbies my have.
My god you losers are still babbling about the same BS smh. You gossip more than housewives LOL, just joking don't get butt hurt. I just got back from Medellin a couple days ago. Had an amazing time, already making plans to go back! And no miraculously the only thing I got drowned in was pussy not scopolamine. Got to do tourist things, enjoyed many nice restaurant's with my "elite" looking instagram thot who wanted to stay with me the whole trip LOL, and learned a lot about the history and culture. The only bad impression I received were some douche bag foreigners coming off the plane being loud and wearing shades at the airport like they were ready to hit lleras, I thought to myself no wonder locals don't like these type of imbeciles. Other than that it was a blast. Obviously didn't have time to be on here during my trip, but now that I'm back I'll be glad to answer any questions any newbies my have.We all have a good time when there. How can you possibly not have a good time where your dollars are worth five times more? Where prostitution and drug enforcement don't exist? It's a world Americans only dream of, and though they get plenty wrong there, they get some things right. That said, lower your guard for a moment then you can get the "scopolamine" or worse, as there are eyes on your cocky ass. That's said for you, and the audience.
Anthony2023
02-02-23, 21:01
We all have a good time when there. How can you possibly not have a good time where your dollars are worth five times more? Where prostitution and drug enforcement don't exist? It's a world Americans only dream of, and though they get plenty wrong there, they get some things right. That said, lower your guard for a moment then you can get the "scopolamine" or worse, as there are eyes on your cocky ass. That's said for you, and the audience.Oh no sir, I never lowered my guard while I was there. I was always paying attention to my surroundings. That's the only downside to it is that you have to be vigilant at all times.
Elvis 2008
02-02-23, 21:40
Since we are here on this section of the forum, I will ask a Q that we have discussed before. Elvis, why would someone want to "get the most sought after women"?
I mean, for example. I never listen to the most sought after music. I like my own choices. I don't buy a car based on which model is most popular either. Why would I seek the most sought after women?I addressed that TK. I said if you are happy eating hamburger when other are eating steak you should actually be happy. You are satisfied and paying less.
The issue is arguing that the hamburger is more or in equal demand than the steak, and other guys are stupid paying for the steak.
When I showed a pic of a beauty queen I went out with, the losers here said she was lying and no beauty queen. That told me they are not really happy with their hamburger. They just do not want other guys getting steak.
I know he DOES (at least occassionally) buy drinks for girlsGee, that is a shocker. / sarc.
but I am almost 100% certain he would not be seeking "the most sought after women".Yeah, and unlike the rest of the loser crew, he does admit to that. He and Huacho tripped all over themselves when I mentioned that buying an in demand girl a drink was the cost of speaking to her. What they were trying to say is that it was stupid and a expense, and when they did it, it was an investment, a hope the drink would get the woman in bed.
Of course, a woman in demand can charge a higher price. That is one of the laws of supply and demand. JJBee's crew just does not like that fact, and so they spin all these fantasies to try to get around it. All women are the same. You cannot tell which women are in high demand ETC.
My point was be happy with the hamburger or get off your ass and do what it takes to get the steak. And STFU about guys doing what it takes to get the steak.
Thing is I admit that some of the time I was happy with hamburger an on occasion it was better than steak, and in your case TK, I am not sure I have read where you chastise guys going for the most in demand women.
With Mr. E, he may say he is happy with the average looking women but what he does tells me he really feels otherwise.
Elvis 2008
02-02-23, 22:01
She wasn't his girlfriend in reality, is the point.Nope.
She was just one of many hookers he was fucking.Nope.
The only way buying a hooker a motoNope.
makes any sense is if you are going to be seeing her for a heck of a long timeWhat does a "heck of a long time" mean in real terms?
and want to take away one potential excuse for being maddenlying late all the fucking time.WTF are you talking about? We stay in an apartment together. And maddenlying? I am guessing that is maddeningly. What do I or we have to be on time for in Colombia?
Nounce already corrected you on when I bought the scooter, and yet you insisted you were right when you were wrong. Your making shit up just shows everyone you are a drunk, cowardly, stupid, piling on loser who lives in the gutters. Pick yourself up or STFU about how everyone else lives.
LuvMexicanas
02-03-23, 01:26
If you're a lion, make your own pride. Don't be a chump taking on the responsibility of a baby mama and some other man's cub. And don't be butthurt when men scoff at the notion that a woman in her 30's who got impregnated by some loser is a 10 or elite.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
What does a "heck of a long time" mean in real terms?
WTF are you talking about? We stay in an apartment together. And maddenlying? I am guessing that is maddeningly. What do I or we have to be on time for in Colombia?
Nounce already corrected you on when I bought the scooter, and yet you insisted you were right when you were wrong. Your making shit up just shows everyone you are a drunk, cowardly, stupid, piling on loser who lives in the gutters. Pick yourself up or STFU about how everyone else lives.I really hate to bring this to your attention Elvis, but he wasn't talking about you. Huacho was talking about another monger who bought his girlfriend a motorcycle. I only mention it because I think it is well established that you can't read, and this is just another one of many examples.
Oddly enough not every post is about you.
Anthony2023
02-03-23, 03:26
Hey jjb, since you know about the webcam industry. What's this I over heard with one of the girls who spent the night with me complaining to her friend on the phone about how she is getting ripped off by one of her webcam bosses? She was telling her friend about how most new girls get ripped off and that they basically work for free because the boss tells them they owe money.
I asked her why doesn't she just do it independently and have her own onlyfans or whatever. She explained because this webcam studio already has a huge following and it would take time to build a client base. Not to mention she wouldn't be able to keep a low profile. Sounds like she works with that Juan Bustos character you mention.
Is this true? Do they take advantage of new girls? Are these studios professional? Another question is do they get sexually involve with their talent? Sounds to me like a money grab or a way to fuck the new girls to repay there debt. I can't imagine them being so professional if that's what's going on.
Mr Enternational
02-03-23, 04:06
WTF are you talking about? We stay in an apartment together.
Nounce already corrected you on when I bought the scooter, and yet you insisted you were right when you were wrong. Your making shit up just shows everyone you are a drunk, cowardly, stupid, piling on loser who lives in the gutters. Pick yourself up or STFU about how everyone else lives.So you could not save at least 2 of those dollars that you spend on that single mom and that other man's kid to go to the dollar store to buy some reading glasses? But I guess a hit dog will holler.
It's not a 'privilege' to buy anybody a drink. It might be a kindness, it might be an investment, it might just be your shout, but anyone who thinks it is a 'privilege' to buy any person of any gender of any level of attractiveness a drink is observably stupid. I've known mongers to buy cars for hookers (or motos ja ja Osteo) and that is also observably stupid.
Elvis 2008
02-03-23, 17:18
So JJBee living out his life typing out War and Peace on Stupid Shit. I don't even need to read the drawn out posts, which I haven't. What we see though is a life lost, desperately grasping for some kind of validation on a thread formed to segregate disruptions or anything else that deters us from the forum's purpose. JJBee, die in peace.Imagine you are rolling dice with JJBee and the higher roll wins. He rolls a 4. You roll a 6 but do not tell him. He then decides you have rolled a 1,2, or 3, and then he goes on and on about his victory in his typical narcissistic tone. His Butt Buddy Viliany pops in and agrees with him because he is an expert on 5's and 6's and makes up all these dumb rules as to why I cannot have one.
After a week of sheer cockiness, I tell Lebron I actually rolled a 6 but I do not care because the game I was playing was making him look like an ass. His War and Peace novel was an attempt to say he won and was not an ass. Among his excuses was that I did not understand the numbers on the dice, and the rules of throwing dice, and he proclaimed himself the victor.
It was the same with Viliany and stocks. He loses and then goes on the narcissistic rant about how he did not lose but I just cannot understand how he won.
Mr. E says I am gay. Huacho calls me late. And the two of them cannot make up their mind why you buy a woman a drink and if they ever do. It is 4 to 1 or 5 to 1 against and because these idiots think they are in the majority, they think what they say cannot be stupid when it is the dumbest shit anyone has ever read.
But they still are desperate to win and won't shut up. My guess is that they think their board cred comes from their perpetuation of the myth that they are getting it for better and cheaper than you but it is pretty obvious from this discussion with all their lies and stupid comments that they are full of shit.
Elvis 2008
02-03-23, 17:20
So you could not save at least 2 of those dollars that you spend on that single mom and that other man's kid to go to the dollar store to buy some reading glasses? First, there was the gay comment and now this. How old are you? 12?
I addressed that TK. I said if you are happy eating hamburger when other are eating steak you should actually be happy.
My point was be happy with the hamburger or get off your ass and do what it takes to get the steak. And STFU about guys doing what it takes to get the steak.
... in your case TK, I am not sure I have read where you chastise guys going for the most in demand women.
Hey Elvis. I haven't chastised anyone for choosing the girls that they want. The main thing that annoys me about these exchanges is htose people that tell others that they know best whio the girls are that others should be choosing. I think we all know who the main culprit is in that regard.
And about your steak v hamburger analogy. What if your a vegan? And I mean that metaphorically (for a change! Hehe. Meaning that your desires are just totally different to others. Thats a legitimate choice, and why this 1-10 scale is total nonsense. Nothing to do w price, everything to do w preference.
Hey jjb, since you know about the webcam industry. What's this I over heard with one of the girls who spent the night with me complaining to her friend on the phone about how she is getting ripped off by one of her webcam bosses? She was telling her friend about how most new girls get ripped off and that they basically work for free because the boss tells them they owe money.
I asked her why doesn't she just do it independently and have her own onlyfans or whatever. She explained because this webcam studio already has a huge following and it would take time to build a client base. Not to mention she wouldn't be able to keep a low profile. Sounds like she works with that Juan Bustos character you mention.
Is this true? Do they take advantage of new girls? Are these studios professional? Another question is do they get sexually involve with their talent? Sounds to me like a money grab or a way to fuck the new girls to repay there debt. I can't imagine them being so professional if that's what's going on.Any new model, no matter what she looks like, or how well she interacts on camera, needs a minimum of 6 weeks before she'll start making even a minimal amount of money. On her first day, she'll usually make a few dollars, literally $2-$3. Over the next 3 weeks she'll average less than $1 per day. Somewhere in the 4th week she'll start getting a bit more and if she sticks with it by 6 weeks she might be making $20 per day. From there, it might take off or stabilize at under $50 per day.
During that time the webcam studio is paying her a certain amount, depending on the studio, either daily or weekly, provided she shows up on time and puts in her hours. It's a serious grind, 6 to 8 hours daily trying to keep smiling and have energy and getting nothing. It's why most webcam models only last a few weeks.
The studio is providing a workspace, the necessary equipment (computer, camera, lights), toys, sometimes clothing and a stable high-speed internet connection. The studio also provides a monitor (an online mentor, cheerleader, coach and supervisor). In exchange, after the probation and guaranteed pay period the studio usually takes 50%. There are a bunch of factors to raise or lower the studio cut.
Depending on the studio, after the probation period, they dock the model for the money advanced to them, until the debt is paid.
Are the studios professional? Depends on the studio. Many places are just fly by night places put up by wannabe pimps. Juan Bustos has over 2,000 models, some outside of Colombia. Several years ago he received a $1 million USD grant from Cam4 (a webcam platform) to set up his own webcam platform, QCams. It never took off though. He has lawyers, accountants and an international liason. He has his own magazine dedicated to webcam, runs a school teaching everything about how to succeed as a webcam model and has hundreds of apartments in Poblado used by his models. Both OnlyFans and PornHub have people in Medellin assigned to his studio. So yes, professional.
Do they get sexually involved with the talent? Depends on the studio. When I was there Juan had a webcam model girlfriend. I monitored for her for awhile. She was a pain in the ass diva and impossible to work with, mostly because she was fucking the boss. I'm sure over the years there have been plenty of others.
Is it a money grab? Again, Depends on the studio. At a rough guess, he's probably got expenses of $250,000+ monthly and a new model is about a $2,000 investment before she starts breaking even. And like I said, most don't last long enough to break even.
The reason why girls don't start independent is because they can't afford the initial investment. They also have no idea what they're doing. They don't know English well enough to handle chat and they are lost with dealing with all the weirdos and rude pricks. Plus, most of them have the hooker work ethic: "If I've got money I don't need to work. ".
So JJBee living out his life typing out War and Peace on Stupid Shit. I don't even need to read the drawn out posts, which I haven't. What we see though is a life lost, desperately grasping for some kind of validation on a thread formed to segregate disruptions or anything else that deters us from the forum's purpose. JJBee, die in peace.Oh my! Someone got their tender little feelings hurt.
Stings when someone goes in depth on all your bullshit and not one single person even gives you a nod. Surely someone on ISG, who has spent time with you can chime in with something positive about you. But total crickets. Fuck, even Elvis has a cheerleader.
Well, I suppose you can always call your Colombian friend and see if he wants to hang out and drug and rob you again.
... Remember how he kept re-numbering his chicas? ....The numbers are ranking for his girlfriends that he does not pay for sex. The one that he bought moto for was his number 1, and was still number 1 before he disappeared. I understand what you said about the hooker part and I am not debating that.
Here I am, thinking about how much he, Elvis and JjB have a common, and I mean in a respectful way.
Mr Enternational
02-04-23, 00:11
Mr. E says I am gay. Huacho calls me late. , they think what they say cannot be stupid when it is the dumbest shit anyone has ever read.Because your reading and comprehension skills are shit. I never said you were gay. You said you were like a gay cartoon character. All I did was point out the guy was gay. Huacho pointed out something that another board member did, explicitly naming the person. Yet with your reading and comprehension you and the other member must share the same name or either you desperately want someone to be talking about you and can not imagine when they are not.
Elvis 2008
02-04-23, 01:40
And about your steak v hamburger analogy. What if your a vegan? And I mean that metaphorically (for a change! Hehe. Meaning that your desires are just totally different to others. Thats a legitimate choice, and why this 1-10 scale is total nonsense. Nothing to do w price, everything to do w preference.Think of a 1 as the least in demand woman and a 10 as the most in demand woman appearance wise. If you are truly happy with less desirable women, I have no issue with that.
Thing that guys here do not want to admit is the more in demand women can ask for more and get it and IMO the approach to win said women has to be different.
Elvis 2008
02-04-23, 01:41
The numbers are ranking for his girlfriends that he does not pay for sex. The one that he bought moto for was his number 1, and was still number 1 before he disappeared. I understand what you said about the hooker part and I am not debating that.
I never rated women 1 to 10. You guys are confusing me with Osteoknot who did.
Anthony2023
02-04-23, 04:16
The reason why girls don't start independent is because they can't afford the initial investment. They also have no idea what they're doing. They don't know English well enough to handle chat and they are lost with dealing with all the weirdos and rude pricks. Plus, most of them have the hooker work ethic: "If I've got money I don't need to work. ".Yes I guess there's a lot to consider and like she said she wants to keep a low profile and wouldn't be able to do that if she wanted to go independent. She doesn't seem to enjoy working for the studio and would rather go to panama with her hooker friends. That's another thing I noticed, what's up with girls being recruited to panama? Didn't realize panama was much of a monger town or I guess maybe they get paid better over there. Sounds like usually it's for parties or trios.
Think of a 1 as the least in demand woman and a 10 as the most in demand woman appearance wise. If you are truly happy with less desirable women, I have no issue with that.
I don't seek out most nor the least in demand women. I simply seek girls that I desire (me).
Given your explanation Elvis, you must admit then that a girl could be a 10 in 1 country, but say only a 3 or 4 in another country (different countries / cultures demand different women). Furthermore, a woman could be a 10 in 1 context, yet only a 3 or 4 in another. So, likesays, the sclae is pointless.
That's another thing I noticed, what's up with girls being recruited to panama? Didn't realize panama was much of a monger town.Def it is. There are a few nightclubs with working girls, mostly Colombianas, but also from other Latin countries. And Panama is also quite expensive compared to Colombia, so clients are used to paying far more money for girls. . And it's cheap and easy for Colombian girls to get to.
There are however, some clubs there at the other end of the scale. I found a bar close to the entrance to the old town where it was USD 10 a session. There was 40 or 50 girls in the bar, again, mostly Colombians. Super boring city though. Dunno why tourists go there.
LuvMexicanas
02-04-23, 15:35
I don't seek out most nor the least in demand women. I simply seek girls that I desire (me).
Given your explanation Elvis, you must admit then that a girl could be a 10 in 1 country, but say only a 3 or 4 in another country (different countries / cultures demand different women). Furthermore, a woman could be a 10 in 1 context, yet only a 3 or 4 in another. So, likesays, the sclae is pointless.A single mom in her mid 30's like he has is closer to a 1 than a 10 for most guys yet he tries to convince everyone his baby mama with some other man's child is elite and that she's better than the chicas others on the board are getting (huge fuckin eye roll).
.... You guys are confusing me with Osteoknot who did.We ae talking about him.
Nounce already corrected you on when I bought the scooter, and yet you insisted you were right when you were wrong. Your making shit up just shows everyone you are a drunk, cowardly, stupid, piling on loser who lives in the gutters. Pick yourself up or STFU about how everyone else lives.I was talking about Osteo buying a scooter. I didn't know you were also stupid enough to buy one for somebody. It doesn't surprise me though. If we ever meet again we can talk about cowardly, you fat piece of shit. Not sure where all the stuff about me being a drunk comes from. I just like to drink beer. It kind of reminds me of another fat piece of shit who said I was a loser who could not hold a job. At the time he posted this, I was in the eleventh year at the same job. Now I am retired with plenty of money so fuck you.
Huacho calls me late.Dude. I have never called you late. I have called you fat, stupid, and illiterate. You could maybe lose weight but there is just no cure for stupid and you have zero reading comprehension.
The numbers are ranking for his girlfriends that he does not pay for sex. The one that he bought moto for was his number 1, and was still number 1 before he disappeared. I understand what you said about the hooker part and I am not debating that. Yeah, right, did not pay them for sex. Would you like to buy some swamp land in Florida? Or are you just too dumb to realize that buying a moto is paying for sex?
The numbers are ranking for his girlfriends that he does not pay for sex. The one that he bought moto for was his number 1, and was still number 1 before he disappeared. I understand what you said about the hooker part and I am not debating that.
Here I am, thinking about how much he, Elvis and JjB have a common, and I mean in a respectful way.I believe that only the top 1 or 2 didn't get paid, but received compensation in other ways. The higher numbers were getting paid.
Think of a 1 as the least in demand woman and a 10 as the most in demand woman appearance wise. If you are truly happy with less desirable women, I have no issue with that.
Thing that guys here do not want to admit is the more in demand women can ask for more and get it and IMO the approach to win said women has to be different.Most and least desirable to whom? That's the heart of the matter. If you read enough in any forum, you'll find plenty of examples. Monger A wants short and thin, Monger be wants curvy with silicone, Monger see wants tall and wispy, Monger the wants 25-30 years old, Monger E only wants 18-20.
Depending on where you are in the world, the most in demand women might look like trash to you, while the least in demand is what you find desirable.
However, in most cases the most in demand women aren't available anyway. Someone else has already spent more than you can afford, or she was never looking for anyone outside her area.
If you're competing with other men, to land the most in demand woman, you're just one of the pack fighting over the same scrap. Especially if you're looking for something long term, someone worth investing in.
It's because desire goes both ways. The hottest woman on the planet is worth nothing to me if she doesn't also desire me. Not my money, not a green card, not even my famous pancakes. Me. If I've got to outspend everyone else to get her, she's not worth more than $75 to me. I'll fuck her, pay her and maybe cook her breakfast, but there's no reason to support her.
You're looking for a girl on a pedestal, overlooking their admirers and wondering how much she can get from the chumps. I'm looking for the girl who ignores all the clowns waving money, because she's looking for me.
Yes I guess there's a lot to consider and like she said she wants to keep a low profile and wouldn't be able to do that if she wanted to go independent. She doesn't seem to enjoy working for the studio and would rather go to panama with her hooker friends. That's another thing I noticed, what's up with girls being recruited to panama? Didn't realize panama was much of a monger town or I guess maybe they get paid better over there. Sounds like usually it's for parties or trios.That's the hooker mentality. That's why, no matter how much they make they end up with nothing. They want to work for an hour, get paid for a week and party until they run out of money.
Mr Enternational
02-04-23, 20:36
I never rated women 1 to 10. You guys are confusing me with Osteoknot who did.Again, anywhere in his post did you see him say ELVIS?! He IS talking about Osteoknot, but you are so on edge hoping someone is talking about you and your elder elite 10 estrato 6 single mom that you assume they are when they are not.
Anthony2023
02-04-23, 21:20
Def it is. There are a few nightclubs with working girls, mostly Colombianas, but also from other Latin countries. And Panama is also quite expensive compared to Colombia, so clients are used to paying far more money for girls. . And it's cheap and easy for Colombian girls to get to.
There are however, some clubs there at the other end of the scale. I found a bar close to the entrance to the old town where it was USD 10 a session. There was 40 or 50 girls in the bar, again, mostly Colombians. Super boring city though. Dunno why tourists go there.That's crazy, I was just reading some posts here in the Panama section and those guys are nuts, paying basically usa prices $400 per day for girls when I paid less than $300 total for 3 whole days with a supermodel looking Colombian in medellin.
Anthony2023
02-04-23, 21:39
If we ever meet again we can talk about cowardly, you fat piece of shit. Not sure where all the stuff about me being a drunk comes from. I just like to drink beer. It kind of reminds me of another fat piece of shit who said I was a loser who could not hold a job. At the time he posted this, I was in the eleventh year at the same job. Now I am retired with plenty of money so fuck you.Wait elvis is fat?
This isn't directed at anybody specifically but if you are fat and overweight perhaps you should spend more time in the gym than chasing hookers or commenting on a hooker forum. I'm sorry but I can't respect anybody who has no self discipline. I wonder how many fat boys on here are actually judging single mothers, that would be pathetic because you really don't have room to talk if you yourself look pregnant.
Yeah, right, did not pay them for sex. Would you like to buy some swamp land in Florida? Or are you just too dumb to realize that buying a moto is paying for sex?Based on this logic, does it mean girlfriend will become prostitute even if one buys one's girlfriend a $5 dinner?
You think I am debating with you about something when I am not.
LuvMexicanas
02-05-23, 01:26
Wait elvis is fat?
This isn't directed at anybody specifically but if you are fat and overweight perhaps you should spend more time in the gym than chasing hookers or commenting on a hooker forum. I'm sorry but I can't respect anybody who has no self discipline. I wonder how many fat boys on here are actually judging single mothers, that would be pathetic because you really don't have room to talk if you yourself look pregnant.Apparently he is fat according to others in this thread. Not that it matters but I'm not fat and athletically built if nothing else. However, that's not the point. I have nothing against single moms for pump and dump. The issue is when a guy who acts like a know it all keeps trying to say his single mom in her mid 30's is elite and better than what anyone else is getting. Like I said, for pump and dump single moms can be great and I partake often, but I'm not getting into a serious relationship with or playing house with one and paying her and her kid's bills unless that's the best I can do, which seems to be the case for your guy. Well, I suppose was your guy until you found out he was fat and you're now distancing yourself from.
Wait elvis is fat?
This isn't directed at anybody specifically but if you are fat and overweight perhaps you should spend more time in the gym than chasing hookers or commenting on a hooker forum. I'm sorry but I can't respect anybody who has no self discipline. I wonder how many fat boys on here are actually judging single mothers, that would be pathetic because you really don't have room to talk if you yourself look pregnant.I don't think anyone is judging single mothers, although we've been pretty harsh. What people are judging is the position that a single mother is preferable to a single woman with no kids.
If you're just fucking for fun it doesn't matter if they have kids, or a boyfriend or even husband. But if you're looking for a wife, that's different. Not only is it an added expense and responsibility, kids limit your options. You can't be spontaneous. You have to make plans for the kid and any kid related problems mean the fun is over.
Then there's the dark side, especially with a daughter. All the mother or daughter has to do is say that you did something inappropriate and you're fighting to stay out of prison. Forget about your reputation. It's toast immediately.
Of course no women are vindictive or willing to lie about something to get what they want, so it has probably never happened.
Based on this logic, does it mean girlfriend will become prostitute even if one buys one's girlfriend a $5 dinner?
You think I am debating with you about something when I am not.Actually I think your English is not quite good enough to get some of the nuances in here. You take things very literally.
Wait elvis is fat?When I met him, I thought he looked like a bag of melted caramels. That was pushing twenty years ago. Now he probably looks like a bag of melted caramels that just got dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag.
those guys are nuts, paying basically usa prices $400 per day for girls when I paid less than $300 total for 3 whole days with a supermodel looking Colombian in medellin.Some would say your nuts too, paying so much. All things are relative.
if you are fat and overweight Could it be otherwise?
I thought he looked like a bag of melted caramels. Now he probably looks like a bag of melted caramels that just got dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag.I am struggling, yet having fun, to think what a bag of melted caramels looks like.
Actually I think your English is not quite good enough to get some of the nuances in here. You take things very literally.It can be said about you similarly, it seems you treat human relationship as black and white.
Mr Enternational
02-05-23, 16:53
Some would say your nuts too, paying so much. All things are relative.I would say he was nuts for giving a more than likely uneducated third world hooker $100 per day. People in the USA with the same education and skill level do not make that much if they are being paid the $7. 25 per hour minimum wage. Unless his dick was inside of her 24 hours of each day. Otherwise he probably bought food for her and took her places, which made is actual cost more than the $100 that he actually handed her. Definitely relative.
A buddy put this meme up in one of our chats a few weeks back. I pointed out that the guy actually cheated himself if he was not fucking her 24 hours of each day. He was paying her more to wait around than to do what he was actually paying her for.
"but he was not going to be fucking her 24 hours in a row for 6 days. Diminishing returns. Smarter to pay the 100 and be done than 30 times more. Her joy was because she was going to make a lot more to sit around and do nothing. ".
It can be said about you similarly, it seems you treat human relationship as black and white.Well, I have 'human relationships' with a lot of black women and a lot of white women, that's for sure.
Elvis 2008
02-06-23, 01:04
Wait elvis is fat?I have not met anyone in this thread outside of Dramafree, and I described myself as overweight which I am. It went from that to I am a 400 lb whale. Of course, all these losers accepted that.
When it came to dating a beauty queen or an elite 10, they did not believe that. So they completely believe the negative but not the positive and that is the point. My point was that I was overweight and got an elite 10 which is all the more impressive. You have to be really, really skilled to do that, and I wanted to inspire guys, all guys that they could do it because if I could do what it took to get one, they could too. But it took time, work, money, and desire to achieve said goal.
I'm sorry but I can't respect anybody who has no self discipline. I wonder how many fat boys on here are actually judging single mothers, that would be pathetic because you really don't have room to talk if you yourself look pregnant.Yeah, well, sorry, I cannot respect anyone who is a hypocritical stupid idiot. Which one helps least with weight loss? Gastric bypass, ozempic, or your choice of exercise? The correct answer is exercise and you do not know that because you are stupid. And it takes zero self discipline to get surgery or take a shot.
And you and everyone else here is a hypocrite on the weight issue who called me fat. We cannot use a 1 to 10 scale with regards to what men desire, but we know what women want women want on a 1 to 10 scale, and they do not want fat or overweight man like me. They want a guy like you. You cannot get more hypocritical than that. LOL.
And who the fuck are you to tell other people what to do? Fat guys should be in the gym versus getting women? What you are really saying is you are afraid that the women might like fat guys who have more game or are more generous than you are, and you do not want to deal with the competition.
And isn't the point of paying for women that it does level the playing field? Aren't you a cowardly chicken shit that a fat guy might pay more for a woman and beat you? And doesn't that mean that a fat guy outworked you? The last I checked, no one was handing out money to people who were fat, and fat people have a helluva lot harder time advancing in the work place.
Anthony, I am happy you went on Instagram and got a great looking woman who wanted to spend time with you but somehow you think I am not deserving of the same, and that is what makes you a fucking asshole.
Anthony2023
02-06-23, 01:51
Apparently he is fat according to others in this thread. Not that it matters but I'm not fat and athletically built if nothing else. However, that's not the point. I have nothing against single moms for pump and dump. The issue is when a guy who acts like a know it all keeps trying to say his single mom in her mid 30's is elite and better than what anyone else is getting. Like I said, for pump and dump single moms can be great and I partake often, but I'm not getting into a serious relationship with or playing house with one and paying her and her kid's bills unless that's the best I can do, which seems to be the case for your guy. Well, I suppose was your guy until you found out he was fat and you're now distancing yourself from.I don't favor anyone on this board. I'm not on anyone's side. But that is correct, I might get along or like you but if you have no self discipline about your physique and especially if you are being judge mental about others peoples weight when you yourself aren't fit, don't expect me to take you serious.
I agree also about women with kids, been there done that and not going back to that. I'm not looking for anything serious and if I was why would I even be on a forum like this. But yes, if I was looking to be serious with a woman she would have to be at least 30 and no kids, which might not be easy to find and that's fine.
Anthony2023
02-06-23, 09:31
I have not met anyone in this thread outside of Dramafree, and I described myself as overweight which I am. It went from that to I am a 400 lb whale. Of course, all these losers accepted that.
who the fuck are you to tell other people what to do? Fat guys should be in the gym versus getting women? What you are really saying is you are afraid that the women might like fat guys who have more game or are more generous than you are, and you do not want to deal with the competition.
And isn't the point of paying for women that it does level the playing field? Aren't you a cowardly chicken shit that a fat guy might pay more for a woman and beat you? And doesn't that mean that a fat guy outworked you? The last I checked, no one was handing out money to people who were fat, and fat people have a helluva lot harder time advancing in the work place.
Anthony, I am happy you went on Instagram and got a great looking woman who wanted to spend time with you but somehow you think I am not deserving of the same, and that is what makes you a fucking asshole.LOL wtf are you talking about? All I said is I don't have respect for dudes who are too fucking lazy and not have the self discipline to get their asses up and Work out and do something about their weight. If your fitness and health isn't a priority how do you expect anyone to take you seriously? As far as you getting laid or any other fat fuck getting laid I could care less, I don't care if you are deserving or not, that has nothing to do with me. Oh and trust me I'm not one bit insecure. I spar fat boys in the boxing gym all the time, several years ago I used to weight as high as 235 but now I'm around 180. But still not afraid to spar heavyweights. You think I'm worried about anyone LOL. Not to mention if you were in better shape you will have better stamina in the bedroom LOL. If that makes me an asshole so be it.
Anthony2023
02-06-23, 10:07
I would say he was nuts for giving a more than likely uneducated third world hooker $100 per day. People in the USA with the same education and skill level do not make that much if they are being paid the $7. 25 per hour minimum wage. Unless his dick was inside of her 24 hours of each day. Otherwise he probably bought food for her and took her places, which made is actual cost more than the $100 that he actually handed her. Definitely relative.".I could see your point but just based off looks and chemistry to me she was worth $100 a day. From what I seen in the states, chicks as gorgeous as her, even some less beautiful ask for 1 k plus per day which I would never pay. $100 a day for a drop dead gorgeous playboy model looking girl IMO again "in my opinion" you will never get that in the states, not for $100 especially if you just met & that's only because after the 1st day I told her it was optional if she wanted to stay overnight or not and I wasn't going to pay her more than $100 to stay. But obviously the money, the amazing apartment I was staying at and the nights out was enough to keep her intrigued besides myself. Now I know This chick usually gets recruited with her friends to places like panama for triple what I was paying.
Since I came solo and wanted to try out nice restaurants & clubs / bars to me $100 for that company and unlimited sex, massages in the jacuzzi, not to mention she even cleaned the apartment LOL, all that was more than worth it but yeah after the 3rd day I had to kick her out because I wanted to explore more talent.
Now the problem will be avoiding her on my next visit. I might bring one of my mexico girls that wants to visit next time.
Well, I have 'human relationships' with a lot of black women and a lot of white women, that's for sure.That's a good one.
Mr Enternational
02-06-23, 17:45
My point was that I was overweight and got an elite 10 which is all the more impressive. You have to be really, really skilled to do that, and I wanted to inspire guys, all guys that they could do it because if I could do what it took to get one, they could too. But it took time, work, money, and desire to achieve said goal.It is not impressive. It is stupid. See a person knows right off if they like you. If I do not like a chick from the beginning, she can cook me all the gourmet meals and give me all the massages (use her skills) that she wants. It is not going to make me like her any more.
An example is a chick that I used to mess with 20 years ago. She is a PhD and has money. She wanted a serious relationship with me. She offered to pay my child support if I was in a relationship with her. She also wanted a kid with me and said I would not need to take care of the kid. I turned all that down because she really was not my type but I loved her as a friend because she is smart. We are still friends and speak often and she is still single and still offering to take me on trips and shit.
What you are describing is a person that did not really like you, but after you put in "WORK AND MONEY" they realized it may be beneficial to be with you. In other words it had nothing to do with your skill or you as a person and all of what they could get from you. Not saying fair exchange is a robbery; just saying stop being naive and illusioned. As has been said many times before, stop the money then come back and say how impressive it is. But you will not do that, because deep down inside you already know the truth.
That's crazy, I was just reading some posts here in the Panama section and those guys are nuts, paying basically usa prices $400 per day for girls when I paid less than $300 total for 3 whole days with a supermodel looking Colombian in medellin.The thing about paying 100 dolar a day or the amount you paid is the minimum montly salary working everyday is around 200 $ depending on currency exchange 180 usd to 220. For you it might be cheap but for non gringos it is not. You paid her work for full month and a half in 3 days.
I would say he was nuts for giving a more than likely uneducated third world hooker $100 per day. People in the USA with the same education and skill level do not make that much if they are being paid the $7. 25 per hour minimum wage. Unless his dick was inside of her 24 hours of each day. Otherwise he probably bought food for her and took her places, which made is actual cost more than the $100 that he actually handed her. Definitely relative.
A buddy put this meme up in one of our chats a few weeks back. I pointed out that the guy actually cheated himself if he was not fucking her 24 hours of each day. He was paying her more to wait around than to do what he was actually paying her for.
"but he was not going to be fucking her 24 hours in a row for 6 days. Diminishing returns. Smarter to pay the 100 and be done than 30 times more. Her joy was because she was going to make a lot more to sit around and do nothing. ".100 bucks for a smoking hot girl, per day, is a great deal, even in Colombia. Mfs pay 200-300 USD for Gusto girls. Average looking FB chick charges 250 mil + taxi for a couple of hours. A quickie at La Isla is 350-400 mil plus entrance fee. Do your math. And El Centro chicks are too ugly and do not meet my minimum requirements, therefore, I don't care if they charge $10 or $100.
If you think $100 per day in MDE is not a good deal, go ahead and message the hottest girls on Seeking, Tinder, Instagram and offer them less, and see what happens. I'm sure you will be told to fuck off.
And why do you even compare minimum wage in the US to hooker rates in Colombia? Ugly crackheads in Miami, that I would not even touch, charge 200-250 USD for 1 hour.
Well, I have 'human relationships' with a lot of black women and a lot of white women, that's for sure.What? No doggy?
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 01:55
If you think $100 per day in MDE is not a good deal, go ahead and message the hottest girls on Seeking, Tinder, Instagram and offer them less, and see what happens. I'm sure you will be told to fuck off. That's even if they reply back, they will most likely ignore offers of a 100 or less. At least the "elite" looking ones haha.
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 02:10
The thing about paying 100 dolar a day or the amount you paid is the minimum montly salary working everyday is around 200 $ depending on currency exchange 180 usd to 220. For you it might be cheap but for non gringos it is not. You paid her work for full month and a half in 3 days.Well yes I understand that but you have to consider these minimum salary workers also aren't getting naked and letting someone randomly fuck them (at least not physically) for their salary. The same can be said for usa escorts who charge 8 k or more for overnights, But no one seems to question that.
Just because the average worker might make $10 a day does that mean a girl is only worth paying $10 a day? Of course not right. It's all about service and what you think it's deserving of, if I have the opportunity to bless someone and deserves it, I have no issues doing that whether its a uber driver, a waitress, hell I tipped my barber more than what I was charged because it was 3 times less expensive and better service than what I normally get in the states.
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 02:26
An example is a chick that I used to mess with 20 years ago. She is a PhD and has money. She wanted a serious relationship with me. She offered to pay my child support if I was in a relationship with her. She also wanted a kid with me and said I would not need to take care of the kid. I turned all that down because she really was not my type but I loved her as a friend because she is smart. We are still friends and speak often and she is still single and still offering to take me on trips Sounds like a very desperate individual. Why wasn't she your type?
I could see your point but just based off looks and chemistry to me she was worth $100 a day. From what I seen in the states, chicks as gorgeous as her, even some less beautiful ask for 1 k plus per day which I would never pay. $100 a day for a drop dead gorgeous playboy model looking girl IMO again "in my opinion" you will never get that in the states, not for $100 especially if you just met & that's only because after the 1st day I told her it was optional if she wanted to stay overnight or not and I wasn't going to pay her more than $100 to stay. But obviously the money, the amazing apartment I was staying at and the nights out was enough to keep her intrigued besides myself. Now I know This chick usually gets recruited with her friends to places like panama for triple what I was paying.
Since I came solo and wanted to try out nice restaurants & clubs / bars to me $100 for that company and unlimited sex, massages in the jacuzzi, not to mention she even cleaned the apartment LOL, all that was more than worth it but yeah after the 3rd day I had to kick her out because I wanted to explore more talent.
Now the problem will be avoiding her on my next visit. I might bring one of my mexico girls that wants to visit next time.Here's my free advice:
If you enjoyed it, don't worry about it.
I've never paid a girl to spend multiple days with me. I've never even paid a girl to spend the night with me. That doesn't mean I've never had a girl spend the night, or spend multiple days, it's just not something I'm interested in paying for. Same for a BBBJ. I've never paid extra for it, never will.
If I'm paying a girl, it's to fuck. She might spend the night, but that's her call, extra payment isn't happening. If she starts asking for extra money for this or that, I say no thanks, bust my nut, give her the money and push her out the door.
That's me. It works for me. If paying $100 a day for 3 days works for you, it doesn't matter if it doesn't work for someone else. Could you have got the same for less? Probably. Who cares? If at the end of the day you're smiling about it, then don't worry about it.
However, it's always a good idea to consider the other side. In fact, you already did. You said you might have to hide from her next trip. If you had just fucked her a couple of times and sent her home, different girl each day, then next trip you could easily work her into the rotation without any problems.
I have not met anyone in this thread outside of Dramafree, and I described myself as overweight which I am. It went from that to I am a 400 lb whale. Of course, all these losers accepted that.
When it came to dating a beauty queen or an elite 10, they did not believe that. So they completely believe the negative but not the positive and that is the point. My point was that I was overweight and got an elite 10 which is all the more impressive. You have to be really, really skilled to do that, and I wanted to inspire guys, all guys that they could do it because if I could do what it took to get one, they could too. But it took time, work, money, and desire to achieve said goal.
Yeah, well, sorry, I cannot respect anyone who is a hypocritical stupid idiot. Which one helps least with weight loss? Gastric bypass, ozempic, or your choice of exercise? The correct answer is exercise and you do not know that because you are stupid. And it takes zero self discipline to get surgery or take a shot.Bear with me. I'm having fun at your expense, again, after a difficult weekend.
Let's start with the 1-10 scale. Although it's not discussed here, doesn't the same scale apply to men? In other words, each man on here, could also be rated from 1-10.
So, in the eyes of women, you walk into the room, they look you over and hold up your score. What do you get? Isn't any woman accepting you just settling for someone fat and ugly because she lacks the game to land a 10? Isn't she just settling because she doesn't want to put in the work it takes to do better? Or putting up with your admitted shortcomings because she needs the money?
If she's in such high demand, isn't it likely there's someone also competing who has money and isn't fat? Otherwise, you're really not competing. Game is useless, unless you fuck them and move on. And a girl from a wealthy family, with a good job and a bright future, shouldn't put money and generosity at a higher value than physical attraction. Well, unless she's got some obvious shortcomings of her own.
Which leaves us with a problem. A woman, without flaw, ranked as among the most beautiful by all who see her, from a family of considerable wealth, with a fine education from a highly respected university, an absolute unicorn, can't attract 1 man of reasonable income who isn't fat and ugly, and thinks she's worth spending a few dollars on.
It is not impressive. It is stupid. See a person knows right off if they like you. If I do not like a chick from the beginning, she can cook me all the gourmet meals and give me all the massages (use her skills) that she wants. It is not going to make me like her any more.
An example is a chick that I used to mess with 20 years ago. She is a PhD and has money. She wanted a serious relationship with me. She offered to pay my child support if I was in a relationship with her. She also wanted a kid with me and said I would not need to take care of the kid. I turned all that down because she really was not my type but I loved her as a friend because she is smart. We are still friends and speak often and she is still single and still offering to take me on trips and shit.
What you are describing is a person that did not really like you, but after you put in "WORK AND MONEY" they realized it may be beneficial to be with you. In other words it had nothing to do with your skill or you as a person and all of what they could get from you. Not saying fair exchange is a robbery; just saying stop being naive and illusioned. As has been said many times before, stop the money then come back and say how impressive it is. But you will not do that, because deep down inside you already know the truth.Nothing is impressive if you're the only 1 claiming it's impressive. It's like making a fake "Man of the Year" Time magazine cover, hanging it on your wall and telling everyone about your incredible accomplishment and then getting offended when they point out it's all bullshit.
That bit reminded me of a PhD girl I met. I could have really fallen for her and I think she could have fallen for me. Just 1 problem. She knew I was still married, and I refused to use any excuses, or to claim we were getting divorced, although we were and eventually did.
First time we just hung out for several hours, purely platonic. Couldn't stop thinking about her. So I called her the next day. She was heading to a beach city for 5 days, the same city I was headed towards and didn't have to be there for 3 days. She had a nice hotel room, Oceanview, paid for by her boyfriend who supposedly was getting a divorce (I eventually met 3 other women with the same boyfriend, who never did get the divorce), but he wouldn't be there until the evening after I had to leave.
She told me I could stay there, 2 beds, but nothing was happening because I was still married and she had a boyfriend. That lasted for about 3 hours. Didn't take money, although I splurged on dinner the first night, didn't take time, or much effort. It didn't even take game. It just took, putting myself in front of her and knowing when to offer her food from my fingers. Although a moonlight stroll on an empty beach, after hand feeding her crab and letting her suck the butter from my fingers, helped to seal the deal.
Impressive? Not especially, but I highly recommend it.
Voodoo Jones
02-07-23, 17:09
The thing about paying 100 dolar a day or the amount you paid is the minimum montly salary working everyday is around 200 $ depending on currency exchange 180 usd to 220. For you it might be cheap but for non gringos it is not. You paid her work for full month and a half in 3 days.Yeah, but from what I experienced in Medellin, that isn't abnormal for attractive non-pros. Even the best looking pros online will charge 200 K / hour for outcalls. The exchange rate is around 460 K COP to $100 USD last week, so it seems like a good deal for the day or at least most of it.
Personally, I prefer semi-pro women who work normal jobs and come to me because I'm much more relaxed at my own hotel. I wouldn't spend hours with a pro and they charge less because they're fucking multiple dudes a day.
That's even if they reply back, they will most likely ignore offers of a 100 or less. At least the "elite" looking ones haha.There's your problem. Who starts a conversation with a stranger with "I'll pay you $100 to fuck me?" Appeal to her curiosity. Get her interested in who you are. Give her a reason to reply to your message instead of just throwing money until she responds.
Elvis 2008
02-07-23, 22:17
It is not impressive. It is stupid. See a person knows right off if they like you.Says who? I liked a girl just fine, thought she was GF material and then learned she was an alcoholic and then no more. You can learn more or less about something all the time. This is the stupidest thing I have heard.
Then you give this example of a girl who liked you. Great.
IWhat you are describing is a person that did not really like you, but after you put in "WORK AND MONEY" they realized it may be beneficial to be with you. In other words it had nothing to do with your skill or you as a person and all of what they could get from you. Not saying fair exchange is a robbery; just saying stop being naive and illusioned.So when a woman likes me, it is for money but when a woman likes you, it is because of you. LOL. God, you are such a blowhard.
Dummy, when a woman is a 10, which you know nothing about because clearly you go for less attractive women, she has guys throwing money at her right and left. I have a female best friend who is super hot used to be married to the lead in a rock band, everyone here knows. She has no problem getting a rich guy, no problem getting guys to buy her drinks, no problem having people wanting to be her friend. Unlike idiots like you, I know what she wants in a guy and it is not money. Nothing would turn her off more than guys throwing cash at her because she was with a guy who used money to control her. She proudly says, "I don't need no man for money. ".
So where did you get the dumb idea I was taking about paying off a woman when I said it takes money?
And you just said a woman likes you or not right away so what is the point of work? So you have no clue what the money is for and no clue what the work is.
And there is no point in talking to my female friend because with your philosophy, all you have to do is say "Hi", and that is it. In 2 seconds, she knows whether she should marry you or not just based on that first impression.
The amazing thing about you and these pile on posts is how fucking stupid they are, and you will go on and on with insults and cheap shots trying to show everyone you are not that stupid when clearly you are. If you are the competition, Mr. E, it is no wonder I have a 10.
And the reason I have dated a beauty queen and landed a 10 is because I paid the money and did the work, and you do not, and you cannot handle it. I have kicked your ass because your game, and the amount of effort you put in, sucks ass.
Elvis 2008
02-07-23, 23:07
Nothing is impressive if you're the only 1 claiming it's impressive. It's like making a fake "Man of the Year" Time magazine cover, hanging it on your wall and telling everyone about your incredible accomplishment and then getting offended when they point out it's all bullshit..Here is the definition of impressive: making or tending to make a marked impression: having the power to excite attention, awe, or admiration.
I already said the point of it being impressive was to excite others that they could do likewise dumb shit. Changing words and definitions around to make yourself look good or win an argument is what you do all the time. What was the point of you bragging about your height and body and calling yourself Lebron asshole? You are the egotistical loser looking in the mirror day and night not me.
Let's start with the 1-10 scale. Although it's not discussed here, doesn't the same scale apply to men? In other words, each man on here, could also be rated from 1-10.Well, per you all that matters on the 1 to 10 scale is weight and checking account balance so that is all that is measured.
Isn't any woman accepting you just settling for someone fat and ugly because she lacks the game to land a 10? Isn't she just settling because she doesn't want to put in the work it takes to do better? Or putting up with your admitted shortcomings because she needs the money?
If she's in such high demand, isn't it likely there's someone also competing who has money and isn't fat? Otherwise, you're really not competing. Game is useless, unless you fuck them and move on. And a girl from a wealthy family, with a good job and a bright future, shouldn't put money and generosity at a higher value than physical attraction. Well, unless she's got some obvious shortcomings of her own.
Which leaves us with a problem. A woman, without flaw, ranked as among the most beautiful by all who see her, from a family of considerable wealth, with a fine education from a highly respected university, an absolute unicorn, can't attract 1 man of reasonable income who isn't fat and ugly, and thinks she's worth spending a few dollars on.But you do not know what the game is. The money I spend is for a fake scale and app that multiplies what I have in my bank account by 1000. So I just get on the scale, and it shows my perfect weight and then my checkbook balance, and voila, all the 10's want to fuck me. Aren't you jealous that you did not come up with such an idea?
I also have a machine that automatically says I am 30. It is funny why you missed that age point Lebron. Is that maybe because you think all women want you versus the truth that they think you are an old fart?
I wonder how many guys here have seen Beauty and the Beast because every guy here seems to want to be Gaston. He goes up to Belle the beauty and basically says, "I am hot. You are hot. Let's have a hot life together", and he describes a life that has zero appeal to her. That is you guys with women.
Belle's father is captured by the beast, and Belle tells the beast to imprison her instead. So what was her life real about? Not muscles. Not balance sheets. Her father. Her family.
Oh right, but that is just a fairy tale. We all know women do not give two shits about their parents and family.
Is it any wonder why I have a 10 now and you do not?
Elvis 2008
02-07-23, 23:10
Nothing is impressive if you're the only 1 claiming it's impressive. It's like making a fake "Man of the Year" Time magazine cover, hanging it on your wall and telling everyone about your incredible accomplishment and then getting offended when they point out it's all bullshit..Here is the definition of impressive: making or tending to make a marked impression: having the power to excite attention, awe, or admiration.
I already said the point of it being impressive was to excite others that they could do likewise dumb shit. Changing words and definitions around to make yourself look good or win an argument is what you do all the time. What was the point of you bragging about your height and body and calling yourself Lebron asshole? You are the egotistical loser looking in the mirror day and night not me.
Let's start with the 1-10 scale. Although it's not discussed here, doesn't the same scale apply to men? In other words, each man on here, could also be rated from 1-10.Well, per you all that matters on the 1 to 10 scale is weight and checking account balance so that is all that is measured.
Isn't any woman accepting you just settling for someone fat and ugly because she lacks the game to land a 10? Isn't she just settling because she doesn't want to put in the work it takes to do better? Or putting up with your admitted shortcomings because she needs the money?
If she's in such high demand, isn't it likely there's someone also competing who has money and isn't fat? Otherwise, you're really not competing. Game is useless, unless you fuck them and move on. And a girl from a wealthy family, with a good job and a bright future, shouldn't put money and generosity at a higher value than physical attraction. Well, unless she's got some obvious shortcomings of her own.
Which leaves us with a problem. A woman, without flaw, ranked as among the most beautiful by all who see her, from a family of considerable wealth, with a fine education from a highly respected university, an absolute unicorn, can't attract 1 man of reasonable income who isn't fat and ugly, and thinks she's worth spending a few dollars on.But you do not know what the game is. The money I spend is for a fake scale and app that multiplies what I have in my bank account by 1000. So I just get on the scale, and it shows my perfect weight and then my checkbook balance, and voila, all the 10's want to fuck me. Aren't you jealous that you did not come up with such an idea?
I also have a machine that automatically says I am 30. It is funny why you missed that age point Lebron. Is that maybe because you think all women want you versus the truth that they think you are an old fart?
I wonder how many guys here have seen Beauty and the Beast because every guy here seems to want to be Gaston. He goes up to Belle the beauty and basically says, "I am hot. You are hot. Let's have a hot life together", and he describes a life that has zero appeal to her. That is you guys with women.
Belle's father is captured by the beast, and Belle tells the beast to imprison her instead. So what was her life real about? Not muscles. Not balance sheets. Her father. Her family.
Oh right, but that is just a fairy tale. You all "know" women do not give two shits about their parents and family.
Is it any wonder why I have a 10 now and you do not?
Anthony2023
02-08-23, 03:18
There's your problem. Who starts a conversation with a stranger with "I'll pay you $100 to fuck me?" Appeal to her curiosity. Get her interested in who you are. Give her a reason to reply to your message instead of just throwing money until she responds.I never said that's my approach haha, I don't usually talk money, I just say if she is interested in meeting we can make arrangements when that time comes. 3 things usually happen, She will agree and give me her number so I can contact her when it's closer to the date, other's tell me their price right away, and some just don't reply or ever open the message.
I do agree I would have better results if I put more time and effort into messaging these women but I just don't have the time for it.
But like I just mentioned in a comment I just posted about how the older guys tend to put in more work with these girls, I'm sure I could learn a thing or two from older gents like yourself, after all you should have more experience.
Anthony2023
02-08-23, 03:25
Personally, I prefer semi-pro women who work normal jobs and come to me because I'm much more relaxed at my own hotel. I wouldn't spend hours with a pro and they charge less because they're fucking multiple dudes a day.I agree, this is exactly how I ended up with the 19 yr old on my last day. I was trying to decide whether I should see a pro or this chick on fb. I just went with it and said well if she doesn't show ill just go see a pro. But like you said I prefer the comfort of being in your own place and not it being so transactional with someone is has a line of guys coming in and out. Although there is 2 independent pros I wanted to see that guys keep raving about their services and how hot they are but they seemed to always be busy and hard to get in touch with.
I'll treat this as something worthy of serious consideration, rather than the inane rambling of an idiot with an unfathomable compulsion to make himself look stupid whenever he encounters my name.
I don't need to know you, or know her, in order to make a simple conclusion that a 60 yr old gringo truck driver has very little (if anything at all) in common with a 20 yr kid from Colombia. You are being delusional when calling her your girlfriend.Actually you do need to know me. If you are rushed to the emergency room with life threatening injuries and the doctor says"I don't know anything about treating your injuries, but I don't need to know anything", you're going to die. Physically die, to match the brain death you long ago succumbed to.
What could I possibly have in common with a 20 year old Colombian girl? Now if you knew both of us, or really anything, you would think we have many possible things in common. Of course that assumes you would suddenly begin to think.
Let's start with music, something most Colombians love. What music does she enjoy? How does that match with my music? Turns out, there's a good intersection. At first I was playing Colombian music which I didn't like because I thought she would like it. She changed it to Colombian music I liked. Then she surprised me by playing and singing Bohemian Rhapsody. Later I started putting on stuff to see if she liked it. The Manhattan Transfer album Brasil was very well received. There were several others.
Movies are a good subject and what young woman doesn't like a good movie? In this area, we were almost 100% in agreement. I pulled up movies from long before her time as well as current hits and she loved them all. Some that she particularly enjoyed were: "Iron Will", "Batteries not Included", "Ready Player One", along with all of the Blade movies. We probably watched 50 movies together and only 1 bored her. It bored me as well. It seemed much better 30 years ago.
On the subject of movies, Netflix and Disney+ are your best choices. All the stuff on Disney can be played with Spanish audio and English subtitles, or vice versa. Everything on Netflix can have Spanish subtitles, plus there's a good selection of Spanish movies and series. For a girl with decent English reading skills Vudu / Fandango has practically everything with English subtitles.
Animated movies, superhero movies and vampire movies were all popular with her, as well as sentimental ones.
What else is there? Food? On this one I blew her away. I introduced her to foods you can't get in Medellin and she loved it. The only thing she was lukewarm on was sashimi. She liked the taste, but not the texture. , although she was fine with all the sushi.
Her top favorite was Thai food. Unlike many Colombians she likes a bit of spice. There were too many things to list, but there were 2 surprises. Bread and butter pickles, she went crazy for. So crazy that I brought her a jar for Christmas and she insisted that everyone try them. She also loved fried dill pickles.
What more is there? Art? Check. Games? Check. Cooking? Check. Love of animals? Check. Social causes? Check. Political views? Check? Helping others? Check. Religious views we differ on, but it's not a huge split. In that area, she and I are closer than I am with any of my family.
Is there anything else? The reason we first began talking more seriously was because I knew where she lived, or knew the area. She grew up a 10 minute walk away from where I lived in Poblado. I had literally walked past her front door dozens of times. Chances are we passed each other on the street 2 or 3 years before we met.
Thinking about it all, I probably have as much or more in common with her than with any of my previous long-term relationships. Most of those were based on our desire to fuck and we made do with everything else.
So what should I call her? Every day I wake up to find a message from her and she checks in with me at least 3 or 4 times daily. She's always sending pictures of what she's doing, pictures with different friends or family members, or her pets. She asks for my advice and opinions and shows concern when I have problems.
For my part, I mostly give her space. I don't make demands, don't try to control her and I treat her with respect. There have been a few problems, but we've worked through them. Sometimes I make her laugh, sometimes I make her horny. Granted, I'm the breadwinner, but that's been the case with every previous relationship.
So, now that you have all that information, what should I call her? Sugar Baby won't work, because that's an arrangement based on sex. We have sex, but it's not a requirement. Give me a word that you feel I should use to refer to her, then explain why that's better than just saying "girlfriend. ".
Maybe I could just call her my Betty. Instead of saying "my girlfriend said the police arrested a gringo who raped 2 girls", I could say "My Betty said. " Of course then everyone would ask who was "My Betty" and why do I call her that? Is she a good cook? Does she look like Betty White? Is she black and did she have a child that went wild?
Then I would have to explain "Mami'sBoy refuses to allow me to refer to my girlfriend as my girlfriend without clogging up the forum with a bunch of whining, so I have to call her my Betty and clog up the forum with a bunch of unnecessary explanations. ".
Sounds good?
The girl who I refer to as my girlfriend, pending guidance from Mami'sBoy on the proper term for a girl involved with me in ways he knows nothing about, sent me a picture today. She had run into her best friend from high school at the University. I've talked a lot with the girl, although we've never met.
Thinking about the 2 of them, I realized something. Both of them are certifiably, undeniably elite. Not in the sense of the most beautiful women in the world, not for immense family wealth or spectacular academic achievements, but in the category of belonging to elite groups through personal achievement.
Before I explain their elite status, there's a backstory that explains the birth of Elvis's "elite" harem. Time to fire up the way back machine.
Elvis first introduced himself to the Colombia forums over 3 years ago, with the sad tale of his Venezuelan ex. He moved her and her parents to Peru, set them all up and then learned his true love no longer had any use for him. Unfortunately, I had just donated my entire collection of sympathy for excessive naivete to Goodwill and had only mockery to aid him in his time of despair. Thus began our battle.
Fast forward to the beginning of the pandemic. While Elvis was jumping onto every inconceivable conspiracy theory about Covid, I was considering changing my approach to Medellin (without neglecting my Elvis mockery).
Facebook had grown a bit stale. I was bored with "cuando nos vemos" and "quiero verte. ". I wanted conversations that didn't mention condoms. It didn't matter if I found working girls or regular girls, but I didn't want to start with the expectation of p4 p sex.
Whether it was good timing, or good luck, I found what I was looking for, girls I could just talk to, and get to know before deciding if we wanted to meet. Some were undoubtedly working girls, but I wasn't approaching them like a customer, so they didn't act like hookers. Others were definitely not interested in p4 p, but were open to meeting. In a few weeks I had 20 or more Whatsapp numbers and began choosing my favorites. Eventually I selected 7 as my targets. The first 6 were my girlfriend, pending, nevermind, her sister, the girlfriend's friend and 3 of her sister's friends. Number 7 had no connection to the others.
To break up the monotony of Blakman's cheap, popcorn eating, table dancing, Mileroticos girls and Slapshot's jacuzzi threesomes, I wrote about my possible new options. To date I've met 5 of the 7. By the time I posted about them, 5 were sending me videos. My girlfriend and 1 of her sister's friends were the only exceptions. That girl is uncrackable. I've met her, she's gorgeous, but she's not that kind of girl.
Although I don't recall my names for all of them, 2 I can't forget. The first was girl number 7, the model. If you knew the Facebook girl Mariana Penagos before the boob job, #7 was comparable, before her boob job. The other girl I named was the cheerleader, my girlfriend (or not girlfriend).
Within a few days of my post clearing the censors, Elvis was posting about his elite harem. Previously his girls had been beautiful, slightly better girls. Overnight they became supermodels and beauty queens. Keep in mind, at that time I hadn't met any of the girls, although I felt I could get 6 of them in my bed. I still feel I could achieve that goal, if it still mattered to me, but I'm content with where I'm at.
Maybe the ascension of Elvis to the ultimate elite girl level was just a coincidence, or maybe he felt it was time to stop being so modest. It doesn't matter.
Now that you're bored to death I'll explain my elite girlfriend and her elite friend.
Both girls have a US B1/ B2 visa. This is a combination business and tourist visa. It's granted for things like business conferences, exhibitions or to participate in sporting events. So how do 2 teens from Medellin get such a visa?
Let's start with the friend. She's a volleyball player. She's a good enough player to make it on a team which competed internationally, including in the US. How many Colombians can make that claim? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but in sports you don't make it to the top if you don't win.
Finally we get to the girl of undefined status who I call my girlfriend. Care to guess how she got her visa? Pat yourself on the back if you said it has something to do with why I called her the cheerleader, in Spanish "porrista. " I was surprised to learn that cheerleading is a big deal in Colombia. If you go to estadio you'll find many teams practicing. When she was 16, she wad chosen to to be one of Colombia's representatives for international competition. Her team made it to the finals in Orlando. They didn't win.
Once again, only a select few make it to that level each year and it's something that can only be achieved through years of dedication and practice. What's more elite than being one of the best cheerleaders in Colombia?
Now to the most important part. None of that matters. We don't sit around talking about cheerleading. She's never done the splits for me (except for 1 short video). She's never even put on her cheerleader outfit for me (hmmm). The flexibility has come into play, but it's not crucial.
My conquest of her didn't require anything special. I doubt if it will be mentioned in my obituary. Nobody has asked me to do a Ted talk. Even Hollywood isn't calling for the movie rights. It all happened through a series of coincidences. No competition, no game. Shit, there's still no competition.
Just one quick thing I forgot. Although physical fitness is required, competitive cheerleading isn't based on beauty. Makeup artists and hair stylists amplify what's there.
If you have a cheerleader fantasy, it might seem incredible. It isn't. Finding an escort who was a cheerleader shouldn't be difficult. And chances are her cheerleader outfit will be a lot sexier.
Mr Enternational
02-08-23, 17:59
Says who? I liked a girl just fine, thought she was GF material and then learned she was an alcoholic and then no more. You can learn more or less about something all the time. This is the stupidest thing I have heard.
Then you give this example of a girl who liked you. Great.
So when a woman likes me, it is for money but when a woman likes you, it is because of you. LOL. God, you are such a blowhard.I give up on you learning to read and comprehend. Somehow your comprehension always ends up way different from what the person wrote.
Voodoo Jones
02-08-23, 18:14
Why are the Medellin threads always filled with constant arguing? I mean, why are you wasting your time arguing with strangers on a forum meant to help others?
The Bogota threads actually have advice that you don't need to scroll through pages to find. Like I wouldn't have tried SA if it wasn't for guys like Elvis recommending it in Bogota and I used it again to great success in Medellin. So much so that I returned to Bogota a month after my first trip and I'm returning to Medellin this Friday after my first trip in December.
Elvis 2008
02-08-23, 18:43
But like I just mentioned in a comment I just posted about how the older guys tend to put in more work with these girls, I'm sure I could learn a thing or two from older gents like yourself, after all you should have more experience.OMG. Say it ain't so. Let me give you a civilized approach to your question about health then. As for your health question, the answer is that people have a limited amount of willpower in their life. Let me put it this way. Why were you 235 pounds to begin with? And now that you are 180, are you sure you are going to stay there because I am sure whatever happened in you life that got you to 235 will happen again, and my guess is you will be even heavier next time.
And as far as being fit, that just gets you in the door. I was married and seeing SBs having a great time doing so for years while the single guys suffered. Those fools were spending thousands on looking good versus just paying women directly like I was. So I hang out with my single guy friends one night, and there is like a 7 and a 8 or 9 sitting with them. The women mentioned they hang out with the San Antonio Spurs when they are in town. I was shocked and thought "You two?
One friend said that every decent looking woman has been with a pro athlete. I never thought to ask my sugar babies about interactions with themselves and athletes and was stunned at how many they had. Point is while you are all happy with your body, any decent looking woman can get a guy with a better body than yours and probably has already had more than one.
I argue with people when think I am right, but I am not personally cocky about myself. So when I learned this, I was like, "Well, WTF are you doing with me then?" The simple answer is money, but it is more than that. For example, one dancer was sitting with some roided out baseball player at a club. His at bat is being shown on ESPN and he roughly grabs the girl by the face, points it at the TV, and says "Look, I am on TV. ".
When I was with a different SB, she and a friend went through all the guys on a football team and said who they would go out with. I was thinking they would die to be with any of them. Nope, and they rejected most of the guys. Yes, they picked the ones out who had more money and looks and race was an issue too, but I was shocked at how well they knew the character of the players.
With a gal like mine, she could give a shit about men and their muscles outside of a fling. I did not know about my gal's daughter when I went out with her in the beginning and she was sizing me up. Her #1 concern and the concern of most single mothers is the safety of their children. You want a single mom long term that is how you get them.
When I sat back and listened to Colombian women, which so few guys do, I cannot recall meeting one woman I gave a shit about who was not all about her family.
Like I said, most guys strive to be like Gaston from Beauty and the Beast and tell women what they should like instead of listening to what is important to them. The difference with me is I fucking listen.
Elvis 2008
02-08-23, 20:32
Maybe the ascension of Elvis to the ultimate elite girl level was just a coincidence, or maybe he felt it was time to stop being so modest. It doesn't matter.As Paulie said, I think you write these War and Peace novels that no one reads to revisit history to recount that you won when you lost.
As for elite, the only thing I mentioned that when guys are looking for a long term relationship even a sugar baby, guys should focus on the higher classes. The poor or those who come from a poor culture have no concept of long term.
Now that you're bored to death I'll explain my elite girlfriend and her elite friend.Nobody cares. I did not set out to find elite dummy. I went for good looking and good in bed. I have had better in bed initially and better looking in Colombia than my current woman. For guys into the one nighters, which is most, they should ignore what I say.
You ex was not your GF. She was a sugar baby. She was cute and upper middle class. The whole elite thing came up because you assholes tried to knock my gal down. Now you are trying to bring your ex SB up. All this and all the other shit shows how insecure you all are.
What guys should learn from my situation is that the USA pushes the oneitis thing like crazy. Fuck that. You do not really know what you want in a woman. Once you have had your fill of strange that will get disappointing, build a harem. Learn what you like and do not like.
If you are a half way nice guy, pleasant company, and dependable on paying out, you are going to get finer women than you have ever dreamed of. Got that? With sugar babies, it was not that I was so great, it is that other guys acted like such idiots. Women did not mind spending time with me and often enjoyed themselves. Yeah, it was really that fucking simple.
When I lost a woman when I was younger, I would say, "I will never find someone as good as her again" and was wrong. There was always a better next one. But when you have a huge sample, when you say, "I will never find someone as good as her again", it probably will be true. IMO it is only then a guy should really even consider to committing to anything.
Paulie told me a lot about you, Lebron, but the one I can share here is you cannot shut up and need to be the center of attention. Well, that may attract a woman early on, but after a while, that gets old, and she tunes you out and what happens then? You move onto the next one who thinks you are great until she gets bored / annoyed with you. Rinse and repeat.
So instead of saying I can have an elite 10 like Elvis, you should be saying I do not want one woman. I want and need a harem. You are not happy until you have it better than the next guy but there is always going to be a next guy who has better.
You see? I know what makes you happy better than you do, and that is why you are a fucking loser. You still have not figured out what makes you happy at age 60.
Anthony2023
02-08-23, 22:41
I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?
She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.
I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.
I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?
She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.
I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.I don't think your "almost" 60 year old family member is being dishonest with you. (But you know her better than anyone here). BUT she may be expressing an opinion that is based on her life experience and the cultural norms of where she has spent her life.
If there is one thing that I routinely see here in Colombia, it is Americans who expect their values are universal and anyone who thinks or acts differently is odd / strange / wierd etc etc etc.
In Latin America there is a machismo mindset that still exists today. It was pretty universal in the US until the 70's /80's. Let me give you an example. Years ago in anticipation of retirement I started taking Spanish lessons from a well known professor here in Medellin. She told me she graduated from a University with a degree in Engineering. She said she finished 2nd in her class of 35 (I'm generally remembering what she told me). Well the job offers came piling in and she was offered a position with a salary commensurate with the lowest male graduate in her class. She was furious and pursued a career in teaching languages (English to Spanish speakers, Spanish to English speakers and Portuguese to either group).
Women are urged to be very receptive to older successful men. Why? Because it is a cultural norm that dates back many centuries. Even in a world where women are granted much more latitude in their career options. Machismo still dominates. I have gone out to restaurants with many younger women (20's-30's) and I never get as much as a raised eyebrow. One reason may be that my companions have been very judicious in their choice of clothing. If she is dressed provocatively like a street-walker we are absolutely not going out anywhere.
BTW I see many young attractive women eating with Colombian men who are clearly older. That too draws no attention. Many young women are taught to choose a companion who is successful and who can help the family when needed. The thing about older men having a smell is patently ridiculous. There is a modern invention that takes care of that. It is called soap and water.
So just to summarize. If you think that being in your mid to late 30's gives you a big advantage in dating women here, well, not so much. The big factor that will really differentiates someone younger versus someone like me is that I live here. Dating someone who is here for two weeks and then gone makes it a more transactional process.
I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?
She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.
I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.Why not ask your family member who fit that description? You always seem to ask the question that you can find answer easily.
Elvis 2008
02-09-23, 15:44
I give up on you learning to read and comprehend. Somehow your comprehension always ends up way different from what the person wrote.I understand perfectly what you said. You thought I was stupidly throwing my time and money at women who were completely uninterested in me. Or did I miss something?
And when I said it costs money to get a 10, I meant subscribing to seeking, buying drinks, staying in nice places, buying and wearing suits. So it is your comprehension that is off.
And when I said it takes time, that means sending PMs back and forth with women, going on bad dates, getting ripped off, getting stood up. The work is having to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a princess, but it is obvious that is not something you do. You are happy with the frogs.
I wrote something and you took the most negative interpretation of it possible. That is nothing new. Your comprehension is the one that is off.
Elvis 2008
02-09-23, 15:52
I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?
She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.
I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.Anthony, what do you think the women say to us about guys your age? Do you think they say, "Well, we settle for you because we cannot get younger."
They tell us you are video game playing, lazy, overly sensitive, insecure, cheap, possessive immature twerps.
Do you know how many times I have had sex with a woman and had her young loser boyfriend text or call me? "She is my girlfriend. She is not fucking other guys. Stay away from her. She does not want you to call her" after she just got done sucking my dick? Plenty.
But it is no surprise that you hear only what you want.
Anthony2023
02-09-23, 20:54
Anthony, what do you think the women say to us about guys your age? Do you think they say, "Well, we settle for you because we cannot get younger."
They tell us you are video game playing, lazy, overly sensitive, insecure, cheap, possessive immature twerps.
Do you know how many times I have had sex with a woman and had her young loser boyfriend text or call me? "She is my girlfriend. She is not fucking other guys. Stay away from her. She does not want you to call her" after she just got done sucking my dick? Plenty.
But it is no surprise that you hear only what you want.Elvis. Elvis. Elvis. Oh man I can see why so many pick on you, everytime you comment you say some really dumb irrelevant comments. From beauty and the beast to video game playing, are you drunk when you post?
Anyways cool story bro, that's great those are your observations but like many have told you not everything applies according to you. I don't even remember the last time I played a video game, heck I wish I had the time and patience to play video games.
Anthony2023
02-09-23, 21:05
Why are the Medellin threads always filled with constant arguing? I mean, why are you wasting your time arguing with strangers on a forum meant to help others?
The Bogota threads actually have advice that you don't need to scroll through pages to find. Like I wouldn't have tried SA if it wasn't for guys like Elvis recommending it in Bogota and I used it again to great success in Medellin. So much so that I returned to Bogota a month after my first trip and I'm returning to Medellin this Friday after my first trip in December.I agree it's pathetic to see, I guess it's true what they say about older people starting to behave like a babies, worse than housewives gossiping, I thought I would see more people sharing useful information.
I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?
She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.
I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.Ah. So you actually believed that as men age, just touching their skin will burn young people? You do understand pH right? Does it become more acidic, or basic? Do we need to use lye, or hydrochloric acid to prevent our bodies from dissolving?
Now try this one. Get 2 pictures to show your chemist family member. 1 is an aging actor. 70-75 years old. The other of a young actor, 20-25 years old. Make sure both pictures are similar. No shirts. What's her reaction?
I don't think your "almost" 60 year old family member is being dishonest with you. (But you know her better than anyone here). BUT she may be expressing an opinion that is based on her life experience and the cultural norms of where she has spent her life.
If there is one thing that I routinely see here in Colombia, it is Americans who expect their values are universal and anyone who thinks or acts differently is odd / strange / wierd etc etc etc.
In Latin America there is a machismo mindset that still exists today. It was pretty universal in the US until the 70's /80's. Let me give you an example. Years ago in anticipation of retirement I started taking Spanish lessons from a well known professor here in Medellin. She told me she graduated from a University with a degree in Engineering. She said she finished 2nd in her class of 35 (I'm generally remembering what she told me). Well the job offers came piling in and she was offered a position with a salary commensurate with the lowest male graduate in her class. She was furious and pursued a career in teaching languages (English to Spanish speakers, Spanish to English speakers and Portuguese to either group).
Women are urged to be very receptive to older successful men. Why? Because it is a cultural norm that dates back many centuries. Even in a world where women are granted much more latitude in their career options. Machismo still dominates. I have gone out to restaurants with many younger women (20's-30's) and I never get as much as a raised eyebrow. One reason may be that my companions have been very judicious in their choice of clothing. If she is dressed provocatively like a street-walker we are absolutely not going out anywhere.
BTW I see many young attractive women eating with Colombian men who are clearly older. That too draws no attention. Many young women are taught to choose a companion who is successful and who can help the family when needed. The thing about older men having a smell is patently ridiculous. There is a modern invention that takes care of that. It is called soap and water.
So just to summarize. If you think that being in your mid to late 30's gives you a big advantage in dating women here, well, not so much. The big factor that will really differentiates someone younger versus someone like me is that I live here. Dating someone who is here for two weeks and then gone makes it a more transactional process.When I was with the cam studio the owner and her boyfriend took me and my roommate out to eat. A mid 50's man (me), mid 30's man and 2 mid 20's women. This happened once per month. Without fail the waiter would bring me the check, even though the other guy was the one calling over the waiter, placing orders, obviously in charge of the group. It's just the way the culture works.
Of course he forgot to make his questioning fair. Why didn't he ask her what she thinks about him flying to different countries to fuck impoverished prostitutes? Where's her reaction to that one? Why not ask her if the prostitutes he sees are just seeing him because he's only 15 years older than them? Or does it have something to do with the money?
And the ultimate question. Ask her, if she was going to pay someone for sex, would she pay an 80 year old man, or a 40 year old man?
If nothing else, should make Thanksgiving dinner interesting.
I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?
She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.
I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.You have a sense of smell? You live in a place where there are 60 year old men? I take it you don't grasp the basic principles of science.
You had a 60 year old in front of you and you didn't notice the horrible odor? How are opinions from strangers on an anonymous internet forum your goto for answers that are literally right in front of your nose?
Let's say your relative is correct. At a certain age prior to 60, all men begin to stink. How in the fuck haven't you noticed it? Why hasn't a single company making hygiene products, perfumes, herbal supplements or anything else jumped on the "all old men stink" gravy train and rode it to untold riches? Just look at the success of Febreze.
Do you know what my brothers and sisters think about me having a 20 year old girlfriend? Remember, 3 of the 4 have met her and the other apologized for avoiding her. Want to know what they said when I asked them?
2 are fundamentalist Christians, very outspoken on religion. 1 is hardcore ultra right wing, white supremacist, anti-immigrant Republican and the last is a more soft spoken Christian with a grandson only 2 years younger than my girlfriend.
Any guesses?
I never asked them. I don't care what they think about it. I'm an adult and do what I want, instead of running around like a child and asking permission. Or going around like a nutjob asking others whether they approve of choices made by complete strangers.
I know. You're just sharing your opinion and aren't judging anyone.
Your opinion has been noted. In about 5 hours, after I get home, I will file it in the appropriate place, when I flush after adding my own shit to the file.
I will add something. 1 brother, who I shared a house with for 4 years, behaved rudely when he met her. It didn't help that he was drunk. The next day, in his passive aggressive way, he indicated his disapproval. He's done that before and I've called him out on it. This time I just started looking for an apartment and let him know I'd be out at the end of the month.
I don't require anyone's approval, but I demand they treat anyone I'm with, with courtesy and respect.
Anthony2023
02-10-23, 02:04
Ah. So you actually believed that as men age, just touching their skin will burn young people? You do understand pH right? Does it become more acidic, or basic? Do we need to use lye, or hydrochloric acid to prevent our bodies from dissolving?
Now try this one. Get 2 pictures to show your chemist family member. 1 is an aging actor. 70-75 years old. The other of a young actor, 20-25 years old. Make sure both pictures are similar. No shirts. What's her reaction?Not sure sir that's why I asked.
All I know is she said old people usually tend to smell LOL.
She said she just feels bad for the young girls who have to deal with it.
The subject came up because I over heard her watching a tiktok talking about Leonardo's 19 yr old GF LOL.
Anthony2023
02-10-23, 02:35
Here's a question because I think my lady question got removed.
And let me remind the mods this is "stupid shit in Medellin" thread so I think it's appropriate. I'm also not trying to offend anyone with this question, I'm just curious to know how the older gentleman in this hobby really feel.
So my question is are you older folks 55+ that are still in the game seeing pros, semi pros, sugar babies, "gfs" young enough to be your grand kids age. Are you truly happy with your situation? Would you recommend this lifestyle at your age? Do you see yourself continuing to do this till you physically can't anymore?
Or would you had preferred to have settled down with your old gal or at least someone closer to your age spending time with your great grand kids like some fairy tale ending?
I'm curious because I'm not sure what path I would prefer at this point. For now I'm just enjoying my freedom and youth but I know time goes fast and not sure if it will still be fun.
Mr Enternational
02-10-23, 04:24
Why are the Medellin threads always filled with constant arguing? I mean, why are you wasting your time arguing with strangers on a forum meant to help others?
LOL. When I first started reading the Medellin thread it was under permanent moderation. No idea what was going on then but must have been worse than what is going on now.
Mr Enternational
02-10-23, 04:33
I don't think your "almost" 60 year old family member is being dishonest with you. (But you know her better than anyone here). BUT she may be expressing an opinion that is based on her life experience and the cultural norms of where she has spent her life.
That is why I advised him to ask a woman that does it. If I want to know about cooking with onions I am not going to ask a person that does not like onions. My grandfather was in his 60's when he died. I remember at the time he was dating a 19 year old chick from the projects where I was born. My grandfather was not rich and did not have a bunch of money to pass out. He was on dialysis and in worse shape than my father who is in his 70's is now.
Mr Enternational
02-10-23, 17:52
All I know is she said old people usually tend to smell LOL. She said she just feels bad for the young girls who have to deal with it.A youtube channel that I subscribe to went over this a couple of years back. It is not them personally that smell. It is more so their houses due yo shit having been sitting around for 40 years.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4BBcpa4aTO8
Not sure sir that's why I asked.
All I know is she said old people usually tend to smell LOL.
She said she just feels bad for the young girls who have to deal with it.
The subject came up because I over heard her watching a tiktok talking about Leonardo's 19 yr old GF LOL.I'll ask again. Do you have a sense of smell? If so, answer the question yourself. If someone tells you something that sounds ridiculous you should test it. It's not difficult.
Here's information from an old person. Some old people begin to put less effort into personal hygiene, especially if they're rarely around others. Which could account for some old people with a bad odor. However, I've noticed that problem more often with younger people.
Of course, problems which affect some people aren't universal. Bathing still works. Soap and water, shampoo and conditioner, all still effective. Add in deodorant and toothpaste and problem solved.
Did you ask her how she feels about the young girls who turn to prostitution because of poverty? Did you ask her about young men who seek out poor women to hire as prostitutes? Why not?
Curiosity is the catalyst for knowledge. A curious person would explore all the angles, instead of seeking validation for their beliefs. That's the action of someone incapable of learning. You might as well join a cult.
You remind me of a stupid waste of tax money in San Diego about 30 years ago. The San Diego Police wanted to become the morality police, kind of like you. They took citizens to strip clubs to get opinions on whether the clubs should be shut down. They loaded their team with old women, school teachers, religious folks, all people who they thought would be horrified by men going to strip clubs.
The results? Most of the citizens said things like "I don't like going there, but I don't see why other people shouldn't go there if they want. "
Mr Enternational
02-10-23, 21:23
Would you recommend this lifestyle at your age? Or would you had preferred to have settled down with your old galI am not sure that you can recommend any type of lifestyle because there are different strokes for different folks. I like scuba diving but you may be afraid of water. And who says that you can not have both? I love my main girlfriend because she lets me cheat in peace. None of that who are you talking to and trying to look in my phone shit.
Mr Enternational
02-10-23, 21:34
You remind me of a stupid waste of tax money in San Diego about 30 years ago. The San Diego Police wanted to become the morality police, kind of like you. They took citizens to strip clubs to get opinions on whether the clubs should be shut down. Well 30 years ago I was stationed in San Diego. I took myself to a strip club and decided they should definitely be shut down. I think the name was Body Shop or something like that. Growing up in Atlanta I had no idea how they could call that bullshit of a place a strip club.
Anthony2023
02-10-23, 21:44
Did you ask her how she feels about the young girls who turn to prostitution because of poverty? Did you ask her about young men who seek out poor women to hire as prostitutes? Why not?
You remind me of a stupid waste of tax money in San Diego about 30 years ago. The San Diego Police wanted to become the morality police, kind of like you. They took citizens to strip clubs to get opinions on whether the clubs should be shut down. They loaded their team with old women, school teachers, religious folks, all people who they thought would be horrified by men going to strip clubs.
The results? Most of the citizens said things like "I don't like going there, but I don't see why other people shouldn't go there if they want. "I did ask her actually. She said it's a very sad situation for the girls but she can't judge them for what they do, she only feels blessed that she didn't have to live that kind of life.
As far as the men she said the same thing about not one to judge, she said at the end of the day these young men are helping out these poor girls.
Considering tijuana is just down the road they might as well had shut down those strip clubs in San Diego.
Anthony2023
02-11-23, 00:46
A youtube channel that I subscribe to went over this a couple of years back. It is not them personally that smell. It is more so their houses due yo shit having been sitting around for 40 years.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4BBcpa4aTO8That's very interesting.
Well I told her mr. Jjbs response and she said of course he's not going to admit he smells but she said there is no denying that your body oder and skin gets worse with age. She said you can use all the soaps, lotions & oils you want but there's no changing that fact. She said all he has to do is ask his GF.
RubMeister100
02-11-23, 01:49
Why are the Medellin threads always filled with constant arguing? I mean, why are you wasting your time arguing with strangers on a forum meant to help others?
I agree it's pathetic to see, I guess it's true what they say about older people starting to behave like a babies, worse than housewives gossiping, I thought I would see more people sharing useful information.I agree. It is pretty pathetic.
I have been wanting to visit MDE for a few years and have tried to wade through the fucking know-it-alls bickering over typical losers with too much time on their hands arguments. And when someone tries to ask a simple question, they are admonished to RTFF. Yeah, and wade through thousands of USELESS posts from the same posters doing the scolding to RTFF.
Mr Enternational
02-11-23, 03:22
I agree. It is pretty pathetic.
I have been wanting to visit MDE for a few years and have tried to wade through the fucking know-it-alls bickering over typical losers with too much time on their hands arguments. And when someone tries to ask a simple question, they are admonished to RTFF. Yeah, and wade through thousands of USELESS posts from the same posters doing the scolding to RTFF.Maybe you missed the search box at the top right. I can't just go to google and immediately read what I am looking for. I have to give it some kind of clue. You can do the same thing here instead reading from cover to cover.
Well 30 years ago I was stationed in San Diego. I took myself to a strip club and decided they should definitely be shut down. I think the name was Body Shop or something like that. Growing up in Atlanta I had no idea how they could call that bullshit of a place a strip club.Yeah. San Diego strip clubs never were very good.
I did ask her actually. She said it's a very sad situation for the girls but she can't judge them for what they do, she only feels blessed that she didn't have to live that kind of life.
As far as the men she said the same thing about not one to judge, she said at the end of the day these young men are helping out these poor girls.
Considering tijuana is just down the road they might as well had shut down those strip clubs in San Diego.30 years ago Tijuana was a lot different. A lot different.
I agree. It is pretty pathetic.
I have been wanting to visit MDE for a few years and have tried to wade through the fucking know-it-alls bickering over typical losers with too much time on their hands arguments. And when someone tries to ask a simple question, they are admonished to RTFF. Yeah, and wade through thousands of USELESS posts from the same posters doing the scolding to RTFF.So visit Medellin. If you have questions, ask them. I've probably answered 1,000 questions and rarely will I tell anyone to RTFF. I can't imagine wanting to do something for years and not doing it because of an easily overcome obstacle.
Here's something you should have learned long ago. Whenever anyone says "I'm not trying to offend anyone", they are trying to offend someone. It's the same when someone says "I'm not going to lie. " Things not meant to offend don't need a disclaimer.
BTW, several of the older gentlemen in the hobby have several times told you how they feel. It's obvious you're not paying attention.
Here's a question because I think my lady question got removed.
And let me remind the mods this is "stupid shit in Medellin" thread so I think it's appropriate. I'm also not trying to offend anyone with this question, I'm just curious to know how the older gentleman in this hobby really feel.
So my question is are you older folks 55+ that are still in the game seeing pros, semi pros, sugar babies, "gfs" young enough to be your grand kids age. Are you truly happy with your situation? Would you recommend this lifestyle at your age? Do you see yourself continuing to do this till you physically can't anymore?
Or would you had preferred to have settled down with your old gal or at least someone closer to your age spending time with your great grand kids like some fairy tale ending?
I'm curious because I'm not sure what path I would prefer at this point. For now I'm just enjoying my freedom and youth but I know time goes fast and not sure if it will still be fun.None of this will help you. Besides, apparently, you'll smell really bad long before you get to my age.
When I was 18 I was certain I wanted to get married and have a bunch of kids. At 20 I got married and started doubting my original plan. A few years later I tried again with a much better woman. Didn't work. Not really a good idea to start having kids when receiving chemotherapy. Then a few years later, a lot of options were dead and gone.
Years passed, and I gave it one last shot. Sometime before that fell apart I started to rethink it all. I saw all those people living that dream and many were miserable. Kid problems, wife problems, always dealing with money issues. A lot of guys get stuck in jobs they hate because they don't have the flexibility to make a change. So they find ways to escape, they drink, mess around with other women and usually end up splitting up.
Some make it through all that and years later they manage to make a happy life. Some just go numb and plod on. Naturally, there are some who never want anything more. They stay married to the same woman until the end. Happily ever after and all that.
28 years ago, I started making changes. I tried 1 more somewhat traditional relationship. She was my age at least. We were swinging together for 5 years, but when we stopped, there was no real reason to stay.
After trying almost everything, I'm satisfied with where I am. I'm not stuck with a fat, flabby woman who stopped wanting sex 15 years ago. I have the freedom to do whatever I want. And whenever I want there is an inexhaustible supply of women 18-25 who apparently all have no sense of smell. Whether I want to limit myself to more traditional dating, or pay as I go, it's all at my fingertips.
I've never dated anyone young enough to be my grandchild. I'm not sure you understand how it works. Maybe your stinky relative can explain it. First you have to have a child. If you never have a child there will never be anyone young enough to be your grandchild.
Perhaps you meant girlfriends who are young enough to be someone else's grandchild? Again, ask old smelly about it. See, any girl, at any age is old enough to be someone's grandchild, great grandchild, great, great, great grandchild. In fact, every girl is.
Would I recommend anything to anyone? No. What am I? Your mother? If you can't figure out how you want to live your life, I guess you're fucked.
I agree. It is pretty pathetic.bickering over typical losers with too much time on their hands arguments. And when someone tries to ask a simple question,.So where is your Q? I answered one today about typical casa opening times. You sound "worse than housewives gossiping".
she said there is no denying that your body oder and skin gets worse with age. This article agrees w you in that older people tend to have a unique smell.:
https://www.franklinpark.org/blog/old-people-smell
However this article suggests each age group has its own odour:
https://www.healthline.com/health/older-people-smell-different#purpose.
This article agrees w you in that older people tend to have a unique smell.:
https://www.franklinpark.org/blog/old-people-smell
However this article suggests each age group has its own odour:
https://www.healthline.com/health/older-people-smell-different#purpose.Quote from the first article:
During this study, each participant was given an unscented t-shirt with underarm pads to sleep in for five days. The age groups consisted of men and women from young (20 to 30 years old), middle-aged (45 to 55 years old), to seniors (75 to 95 years old).
Of the age groups, the middle-aged women in the study were ranked the highest for the best smell; directly behind them was senior men.
Anthony2023
02-11-23, 19:07
Here's something you should have learned long ago. Whenever anyone says "I'm not trying to offend anyone”
I've never dated anyone young enough to be my grandchild. I'm not sure you understand how it works. Maybe your stinky relative can explain it. First you have to have a child. If you never have a child there will never be anyone young enough to be your grandchild.
Perhaps you meant girlfriends who are young enough to be someone else's grandchild? Again, ask old smelly about it. See, any girl, at any age is old enough to be someone's grandchild, great grandchild, great, great, great grandchild. In fact, every girl is.
Would I recommend anything to anyone? No. What am I? Your mother? If you can't figure out how you want to live your life, I guess you're fucked.Interesting, oh no I was just curious, I certainly wouldn't take any life decision advice from any one here, I was just curious how some of the older gents feel on this subject.
No worries mate. Hopefully no one was offended.
Anthony2023
02-11-23, 19:08
This article agrees w you in that older people tend to have a unique smell.:
https://www.franklinpark.org/blog/old-people-smell
However this article suggests each age group has its own odour:
https://www.healthline.com/health/older-people-smell-different#purpose.You actually looked it up LOL
Anthony2023
02-11-23, 19:16
So visit Medellin. If you have questions, ask them. I've probably answered 1,000 questions and rarely will I tell anyone to RTFF. I can't imagine wanting to do something for years and not doing it because of an easily overcome obstacle.Here's a question nobody had an answer too, and well I didn't want to risk the ATM taking my money.
What's the max a bancolombia or dividienda ATM will let you take out in a single transaction.
For bancolombia the highest withdrawal option displayed was 600 k but I wasn't sure if I could take out more in the custom option.
I ended up doing 3 separate transactions of 600 k and of course my bank charged me 3 $5 fees.
For dividienda I think the highest displayed was 900 k.
So I'm wondering could I had avoided those other 2 fees if it would let me take out 1,800,000 in a single transaction?
Quote from the first article:Sure, but chk out the sample sizes. Insignificant. Whereas there are so many articles about it on the internet that it seems indisputed.
I agree. It is pretty pathetic.....This will help you find information. This is not a hint to tell you RTFF. It is to address the problem you have not being able to find information.
Searching, the easy way:....But first you can go to ROD.
Threads in Colombia, ....I personally don't think most posters that are active on this thread do what you said. Just look at JjB here. He still answers questions regardless the attitude of the poster.
I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?
She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.
I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.No it's not true. You can say that to your mother aka 60 yo family member.
Sure, but chk out the sample sizes. Insignificant. Whereas there are so many articles about it on the internet that it seems indisputed.I know. I was going to comment on the sample size, but got busy with something else.
There is a certain smell I associate with old people's houses. It's not unpleasant, but it is common in houses where people have lived for many years, as MrE noted. However, it's primarily not from accumulated body odor. Old wood, old books (one of my favorite smells), old fabric and cooking odors are the main culprits.
Here's a question nobody had an answer too, and well I didn't want to risk the ATM taking my money.
What's the max a bancolombia or dividienda ATM will let you take out in a single transaction.
For bancolombia the highest withdrawal option displayed was 600 k but I wasn't sure if I could take out more in the custom option.
I ended up doing 3 separate transactions of 600 k and of course my bank charged me 3 $5 fees.
For dividienda I think the highest displayed was 900 k.
So I'm wondering could I had avoided those other 2 fees if it would let me take out 1,800,000 in a single transaction?I can actually answer that. Bancolombia max 600 k. You cannot take out more in the custom option.
Dividienda, the max is higher, I think it was 2100 or 2200 mil. You can definitely take out 1800 mil in a single transaction at that bank.
I was just in Medellin a few days ago and was trying out a number of ATMs, that is how I know from personal experience.
Here's a question nobody had an answer too, and well I didn't want to risk the ATM taking my money.
What's the max a bancolombia or dividienda ATM will let you take out in a single transaction.
For bancolombia the highest withdrawal option displayed was 600 k but I wasn't sure if I could take out more in the custom option.
I ended up doing 3 separate transactions of 600 k and of course my bank charged me 3 $5 fees.
For dividienda I think the highest displayed was 900 k.
So I'm wondering could I had avoided those other 2 fees if it would let me take out 1,800,000 in a single transaction?Bancolombia charges a fee on each withdrawal. I never NEVER use them so I can't tell you what the maximum withdrawal is these days or the fee (it was $600 k pesos last I checked). If your bank also charges a fee on foreign ATM use. You might want to switch to a Fidelity, Schwab or Capital One bank account. I believe none of these 3 charge you a foreign ATM fee and they reimburse any fees the dispensing bank charges.
Next Davienda typically allows a maximum withdrawal of $2 million pesos in a single transaction and there is no fee. Make sure to decline the bank rate conversion. You will get your money using the Visa Exchange Rate which will be dramatically better.
The other transaction allows you to select an amount between amounts offered. You type in what you want. You can't select an amount that exceeds the maximum withdrawal offering. For example at Davienda you can't select $3 million pesos when the maximum is set at $2 million pesos.
All of this has been discussed many many times. It seems a little wierd to me to travel on vacation to a foreign country and not check out which banks are best to use, which charge the lowest fees and how much your bank will charge in fees for using a foreign ATM.
You know that smell your almost 60 year old person was telling you about? Maybe it was the smell of money which a lot of us older expats have.
Anthony2023
02-12-23, 03:00
No it's not true. You can say that to your mother aka 60 yo family member.So you are 100% sure of that? My mother is over 60 but nice guess.
Anthony2023
02-12-23, 21:22
The other transaction allows you to select an amount between amounts offered. You type in what you want. You can't select an amount that exceeds the maximum withdrawal offering. For example at Davienda you can't select $3 million pesos when the maximum is set at $2 million pesos.
All of this has been discussed many many times. It seems a little wierd to me to travel on vacation to a foreign country and not check out which banks are best to use, which charge the lowest fees and how much your bank will charge in fees for using a foreign ATM.This is the answer I was looking for "how much will the other option let you take out" so you are saying you can't take out more than the max amount displayed in a single transaction correct.
Trust me I looked on this forum for this question, I looked online, on other forums, Reddit, the banks website, didn't find any info on this. I already knew about everything else like declining the exchange rate, the other fees banks charge, switching to Schwab etc, that information gets replayed like a broken record.
From my experience the best bank was davivienda. Higher withdrawal option and no fee.
Anthony2023
02-12-23, 21:26
I can actually answer that. Bancolombia max 600 k. You cannot take out more in the custom option.
Dividienda, the max is higher, I think it was 2100 or 2200 mil. You can definitely take out 1800 mil in a single transaction at that bank.
I was just in Medellin a few days ago and was trying out a number of ATMs, that is how I know from personal experience.Got it thanks. Yeah what I was confused about was if I could take out more in the custom option but now I know. I had heard of people being ripped off by the machine stating it gave them the money but never actually received it, so I didn't want to risk that happening.
LoveItHere69
02-12-23, 22:11
I am not a very experience monger. I'm 62, American, look OK for my age, I'm divorced 10 years and I'm really depressed.
At any rate I went on seeking two weeks before the Lisbon trip. I sent out a lot of messages. I was offering 600 euros per day paid at the beginning of each day for three days. I got some responses. I asked for a video chat. Four agreed.
I always give the girl the money up front the moment that we meet and I have had success with that, in brothels and seeking. In another thread you did all this research on robberies but did not research any prostitute pricing in Colombia at all? I am sure the druggings and theft are more than double what you read. Many guys are too embarrassed or do not have time on their short vacations to visit the police knowing next to nothing will or can be done.
For 3,050,000 COP per day I could have had her, her sister, mother, and two cousins which would have been 610,000 each per day. Plus, you had to have paid another 100,000 minimum for food and drinks each day.
You are telling us you handed over 3,050,000 COP before even sitting down and having lunch together? It could have been a trans or she had menstruation.
If you are from USA and you are in Colombia then why the hell are you talking Euros for?
Here's a question nobody had an answer too, and well I didn't want to risk the ATM taking my money.
What's the max a bancolombia or dividienda ATM will let you take out in a single transaction.
For bancolombia the highest withdrawal option displayed was 600 k but I wasn't sure if I could take out more in the custom option.
I ended up doing 3 separate transactions of 600 k and of course my bank charged me 3 $5 fees.
For dividienda I think the highest displayed was 900 k.
So I'm wondering could I had avoided those other 2 fees if it would let me take out 1,800,000 in a single transaction?That question has been answered more than "do you want fries with that?" One of the most common complaints on the Medellin forum is that too many posts are about ATMs.
Of the ones I remember:
Bancolombia 600 k.
BBVA 400 k.
Servibanca 780 k.
All charge a fee.
Colpatria / Scotiabank 900 k.
Banco Pichincha 1 million.
Davivienda 2,020,000.
All had no fee, although Colpatria might have changed.
The maximum offered by Davivienda might be different depending on your bank. Fees charged by your bank might be reduced by changing to a different type of checking account. If you travel often you could benefit from switching to a bank with no fees and which reimburses other bank's fees.
If you try to withdraw more than the maximum allowed at an ATM your money doesn't disappear. The transaction won't go through.
Also your bank may limit your maximum withdrawal per transaction and per day.
Anthony2023
02-13-23, 07:05
Also your bank may limit your maximum withdrawal per transaction and per day.Considering all the stories about people being drugged it would be wise of you to lower your daily ATM and transaction limit. SMH to those that leave their limit high or unlimited.
Mr Enternational
02-13-23, 18:58
Oh my giddy aunt. Harry, can I be your agent? I will manage your financial affairs while your in Colombia. How does that sound?I think this is the same guy that posted a gazillion "stupid" questions in the Rio thread, but once the date came that it was time to go, something came up. Now it is time to do the same in the Medellin thread.
Mr Enternational
02-14-23, 23:31
I had heard of people being ripped off by the machine stating it gave them the money but never actually received it, so I didn't want to risk that happening.I have not used Bancolombia since 2018 or 2019 when I hit the 600,000 button and it did not give me money, but still took it out of my account.
Anthony2023
02-15-23, 04:39
I have not used Bancolombia since 2018 or 2019 when I hit the 600,000 button and it did not give me money, but still took it out of my account.Did you eventually get it refunded?
Considering all the stories about people being drugged it would be wise of you to lower your daily ATM and transaction limit. SMH to those that leave their limit high or unlimited.Yeah, I lower it from $1000 a day to $500 a day when in dodgy countries. I don't see the point to limiting it per transaction though. Thieves know how to make two transactions. And separate your stuff. A credit card here, an ATM card there. I carry at least two ATM cards and at least two credit cards in different places, even if it is just different pockets at times. And if you are my age, send yourself an email or text about what you put where ja ja. Having a no fee ATM card such as Charles Schwab's also limits your risk because there is no need to take out the maximum and walk around with it. I got my ATM card cloned and my account emptied in Guatemala and Schwab sent me a new card by DHL courier the next day. Most of the money they put back that next day too although there was one withdrawal that I had to argue about for five days or so.
Mr Enternational
02-16-23, 03:40
Did you eventually get it refunded?Schwab gave it back to me, but I do not think Bancolombia gave it back to them. I do not know which bank my ex-girlfriend in Bogota uses, but when her card was cloned and the money went gone, she was just shit out of luck.
Anthony2023
02-16-23, 05:39
You've mentioned this a few times and it makes no sense. Lower your daily withdrawal limit? When they withdraw money they see your balance (at least at most banks here). Which means they take out what they can and come back the next day and the next and the next until they have it all. What do they do with you? Keep you unconscious or just kill you.
At the very least hide your damn credit card somewhere no one could ever find it. A lot of better hotels have a security box in the reception area (at my hotel it is like a safe deposit box). Put your card in an envelope and leave it there. From what I've seen reported, In most cases you won't be knocked out for more than 48 hrs. A lower daily withdrawal limit means you have better odds of not being wiped out. I'm not referring to people who are being held kidnapped, I'm referring to the typical street theft or drugging.
Pay cash at restaurants and stores? Terrible advice. Better exchange rate paying with card.
Keep your debit card in the hotel safe? Even worse advice. Never trust hotel safes. Many reports of staff getting in them.
Hide your card in your room, have you not heard most scope victims find and hand over their hidden items to the perpetrators? Yeah that's not going to work.
Based on research that I have done, I think that there are several reasons why Medellin gets more attention on ISG that any other city in the world. It seems to be like the #1 monger destination or at least a top contender.
Several things combine to make Medellin the world's best sex worker destination:
Genetics:
The population is a mix of about 80% Spanish and 20% Native American.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisa_(region).
The Spanish were mainly from the Extremadura and Basque areas. Women will generally be about 5'2", European features, dark eyes, dark straight hair shoulder to waist length, light brown to white skin. There are also many recent Venezuelan refugees.
Poverty:
More than 50% of the population in the Medellin metropolitan area is poor, meaning an income of under $90 per month per person.
https://www.oecd.org/education/executive.pdf
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-poverty-rate-down-to-39-3-as-economy-recovers-from-pandemic/
The youth unemployment rate amounted to 26.44 percent in 2021. The youth unemployment rate refers to the share of the economically active population aged 15 to 24 currently without work but in search of employment. The youth unemployment rate does not include economically inactive persons such as the long-term unemployed or full-time students.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/811936/youth-unemployment-rate-in-colombia
Sex drive:
Spanish people seem to have a very high sex drive.
https://www.expatmadrid.com/2018/05/28/sex-in-spain/
https://latinawoman.org/latina-women-in-bed
So Medellin offers a vast number of passionate, beautiful and very poor girls which may be unmatched elsewhere.
The only fly in the ointment seems to be the drugging and robbing problem, however that never or almost never happens with a WG. So long as you are paying her for sex, you should be fine. Plus of course stick to low crime areas like El Poblado and don't do anything illegal like buying drugs, selling drugs, pimping out girls, sex with underage girls etc.This should be pinned at the top and titled "How to tell you haven't a clue. " That shows, better than anything, you should avoid Medellin until you find someone to hold your hand.
As I've already said, Medellin isn't even #1 in Colombia and Bogota isn't #1 in South America. Judging based on number of posts doesn't work. Just look at all of your posts. How many have you put in the Medellin forum? And you've never been. Or look at all of mine, although I've at least gotten laid there.
El Poblado isn't a safe area. Stupidity in Poblado is just as likely to be punished as stupidity in El Centro. Just yesterday I pointed out where I was robbed within a few blocks of the best area in Bogota. That happened when I was almost as clueless.
Most of the drugging is perpetrated by working girls. You think all those girls go directly from being perfect angels to helping to rob people? You think there's some special school that teaches virgins how to convince strange men to drink with them and take them to their rooms? You don't learn how to close a deal without spending your time selling something.
Mexico has a higher poverty rate and 3 times the population of Colombia, along with a lot more tourism. They even import hookers from Colombia. Forget about places like Bangkok which is so accessible to most of the world's population.
I love Colombia, especially Medellin, but that doesn't make it the world's top destination.
Instead of wasting time trying to find reasons to go to Colombia, making false assumptions and jumping to ridiculous conclusions, buy a fucking plane ticket and get some Colombian pussy. I can guarantee it's a much better way to spend time.
Here's a tip for everyone else. If you're checking a bag, make room for a jar of bread and butter pickles. I wrap the hard in bubble wrap and put it in a zip lock bag. I think you'll be surprised by how much girls like them.
Anthony2023
02-16-23, 10:29
Okay so you want to make yourself feel better about paying. Truth is there's no reason for anyone young, in shape with looks, game, and decent income to be paying outside of rare occasions. And no you don't "pay one way or another. " Buying someone drinks and a meal doesn't count of course as many of us do that for family and friends. Picking up the tab at the restaurant is just custom on a date, not payment for sex. Plus sex is typically better with someone who wants to have it with you as opposed to those that do it because they were paid.Dude that's your opinion.
Different strokes for different folks, I've had long relationships, I was married for several years, enjoyed the ups and downs of family life and trust me when I say nothing is free in this world, so yes you do pay for it one way or the other.
It's better when you don't pay for it? LOL ok that's your opinion as well. Some of the best sex I've ever had was straight pay for play. But like I said everyone has their opinion, I'm just sharing mine.
Anthony2023
02-16-23, 10:36
It was pretty much useless in the first place. I dunno why anyone would think their experience with a particular girl is going to be like any other person's experience with a girl. Personal reviews are pointless beyond red flagging.I don't think it was because it made finding Facebook girls who play much easier. You used to be able to browse thru profiles on the main page and see profile pictures. Now you can only search up names to pull anything up which makes it useless now to find any one new.
Anthony2023
02-16-23, 10:55
The President of Colombia earns about 600 k pesos per day.Those numbers are from several years ago, it's at least double that now.
From what I've seen reported, In most cases you won't be knocked out for more than 48 hrs. A lower daily withdrawal limit means you have better odds of not being wiped out. I'm not referring to people who are being held kidnapped, I'm referring to the typical street theft or drugging.
Pay cash at restaurants and stores? Terrible advice. Better exchange rate paying with card.
Keep your debit card in the hotel safe? Even worse advice. Never trust hotel safes. Many reports of staff getting in them.
Hide your card in your room, have you not heard most scope victims find and hand over their hidden items to the perpetrators? Yeah that's not going to work.1. "In most cases" doesn't matter, because in some cases the victim was taken elsewhere and kept while large amounts were withdrawn over several days and in those cases the victim tends to be found days or weeks later, occasionally in pieces. Ideally you avoid being a victim. Failing that, probably better if the thieves can't see the advantage in keeping the bank from locking down your accounts.
2. Many places in Colombia charge a fee for credit card transactions. Often hotel rates are much lower with cash, paid at the desk, rather than using a credit card through a discount booking site. Then there's the ever present risk someone will clone your card. In addition dealing in cash and keeping your cards in a safe place limits your losses on the street to cash on hand.
3. Choice between walking around with around $50 k in plastic money, plus $200 in cash, or just walking around with $200 in cash while that $50 k is locked away (and in some cases unable to be used) with the option of being alerted if any of the plastic is used? That's a tough one.
4. Not all room thefts involve getting drugged. Whatever you leave easily accessible can end up in a girl's pocket if you turn your back. Again, it's a choice between trying to minimize your loss or making it easier for someone to get the most possible from you.
On #2 I've experienced the hotel issue a few times. The most memorable was a place I booked for $69 USD for 1 night, with a posted normal daily rate of $85. When I checked out I was initially charged $40, until the desk clerk noticed I had agreed to the "discount rate" of $69. There's also the frequently reported issue of credit card transactions in Colombia charged in dollars instead of pesos, resulting in a worse exchange rate (the same as accepting the bank conversion at the ATM).
Schwab gave it back to me, but I do not think Bancolombia gave it back to them. I do not know which bank my ex-girlfriend in Bogota uses, but when her card was cloned and the money went gone, she was just shit out of luck.Probably Bancolombia. A girl I know left her billfold with cedula, driver's license, Bancolombia debit card and Bancolombia Visa at a hotel. The hotel found it and it was sent to her, but it arrived with no cash, no Bancolombia card and no Visa. They didn't get much from her savings account, but 2 million COP was charged on her Visa and she had to pay it.
Maybe it's a good idea understand one language well before learning or explaining another. "His, him, he, her, she, her" are examples of masculine and feminine you suggested do not exist in English. Ser vs. Estar is easier to understand as an equation (I. E. Profession. He is a doctor, equations. One plus one is two vs location. He is in Medellin or state of being. She is ill).
The literal translations of the Spanish verbs "estar" and "ser" are the exact same in English (to be), but they absolutely do not mean the identical same thing in Spanish. Keeping it really, really simple the former can be temporal while the latter is about the essence of something or someone that is more of a fixed or permanent characteristic. In English we don't have multiple verbs for "being". This makes it confusing and challenging, at least at first, to learn the differences between estar and ser and how to use those verbs in Spanish correctly. English also doesn't have "masculine" and "feminine" which I find to be (ser would be appropriate here haha) really fucking annoying! Why? Just to make it harder to learn Spanish? LOL!
Maybe it's a good idea understand one language well before learning or explaining another. "His, him, he, her, she, her" are examples of masculine and feminine you suggested do not exist in English. Ser vs. Estar is easier to understand as an equation (I. E. Profession. He is a doctor, equations. One plus one is two vs location. He is in Medellin or state of being. She is ill).I speak three languages and understand very, very well what I'm talking about. Of course English has what you say (rolling eyes). I didn't mean it that way. What I was specifically referring to is masculine and feminine nouns: https://study.com/academty/lesson/masculine-feminine-in-spanish.html. It would be a good idea for you to seek to fully understand before drawing negative conclusions about what somebody else's knowledge is (or isn't). And there's so much more to "estar" and "ser" than it's appropriate for here. Example: Ella esta (a conjugation of estar) enojada (she's mad now or in the moment). Ella es (a conjugation of ser) enojada (she has a personality that is ill-tempered or grumpy). But hey, we don't come here for language lessons do we except for what's right here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations.
HarryDubois
02-16-23, 20:31
This should be pinned at the top and titled "How to tell you haven't a clue. " That shows, better than anything, you should avoid Medellin until you find someone to hold your hand.I'm very sorry however you obviously don't understand the advantage which my high intelligence gives me when it comes to analyzing complex subjects. This is why I understand Medellin far better than most other people who have been there dozens of times.
Aside from that how dare you imply that the working girls of Medellin might engage in robbery? These are hard working professionals with hearts of gold. Shame on you.
Anthony2023
02-17-23, 00:01
I love Colombia, especially Medellin, but that doesn't make it the world's top destination.
Instead of wasting time trying to find reasons to go to Colombia, making false assumptions and jumping to ridiculous conclusions, buy a fucking plane ticket and get some Colombian pussy. I can guarantee it's a much better way to spend time.Maybe you're being a little too harsh on the guy. Some guys are just in love with the fantasy of it all, maybe he's tied down and just wants to fantasize about leaving his wife for Colombia, or maybe he's trying to save up so that he can purchase a ticket. Don't beat him down, let him enjoy the journey.
Haha I on the other hand lasted a whole 3 weeks after leaving medellin before already buying another flight back. I'll be there again soon. If you are around I'the like to have a word with you face to face.
Maybe you're being a little too harsh on the guy. Some guys are just in love with the fantasy of it all, maybe he's tied down and just wants to fantasize about leaving his wife for Colombia, or maybe he's trying to save up so that he can purchase a ticket. Don't beat him down, let him enjoy the journey.
Haha I on the other hand lasted a whole 3 weeks after leaving medellin before already buying another flight back. I'll be there again soon. If you are around I'the like to have a word with you face to face.Being too hard on him? Nah. It's a hard world. If you sugar coat everything you just end up with another fat diabetic whining about the cost of insulin. Besides I'm just paying it forward from all the guys who were harsh with me when I thought I knew everything (That will get a few response).
I just left Bogota yesterday. It will be awhile before I'm back in Medellin. You'll get a chance eventually. Until then welcome to PPAA (Paisa Pussy Addicts Anonymous). Help yourself to coffee and donuts. If they aren't cream filled they soon will be.
I'm very sorry however you obviously don't understand the advantage which my high intelligence gives me when it comes to analyzing complex subjects. This is why I understand Medellin far better than most other people who have been there dozens of times.Really? Well your "high intelligence analyzing" apparently yields "analysis paralysis". Because you go into these threads asking question after question after question sucking up the time of people who choose to engage with you, and then you end up not going anywhere. Like the man said. You did the same thing in the Brazil threads. You didn't go to Brazil. And you won't go to Colombia either. Analysis paralysis is not a strength! You could be an undercover "Macunaima" for all we know.
I'm very sorry however you obviously don't understand the advantage which my high intelligence gives me when it comes to analyzing complex subjects. This is why I understand Medellin far better than most other people who have been there dozens of times.
Aside from that how dare you imply that the working girls of Medellin might engage in robbery? These are hard working professionals with hearts of gold. Shame on you.Is this meant to be sarcastic bro?
You've never been to medellin yet you claim to understand it better than guys who have been here dozens of times. I think jjbee has a much better understanding of Medallo than you ever will.
And you say working girls never rob or steal? Then can you explain to me how a working girl stole may laptop back in January?
I think this is the same guy that posted a gazillion "stupid" questions in the Rio thread, but once the date came that it was time to go, something came up. Now it is time to do the same in the Medellin thread.And stupid questions! Yeah I have news for people. There is such a thing as a stupid question (and ugly people too haha). And some people have a penchant for asking them! Time to "let go" so to speak.
https://youtu.be/6bqqyQaGtA8
Litmus Smut
02-17-23, 18:30
Is HarryDubois trolling like the troll master, Ken M? Or does he have an ego on par with Steven Seagal?
If you have not had the pleasure of reading some of Ken M's comments on Yahoo's new stories, then you're missing out on a piece of modern art. I am willing to bet Ken single-handedly caused Yahoo to mentally meltdown and shut down their comments, totally making the place useless.
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I'm very sorry however you obviously don't understand the advantage which my high intelligence gives me when it comes to analyzing complex subjects. This is why I understand Medellin far better than most other people who have been there dozens of times.
Aside from that how dare you imply that the working girls of Medellin might engage in robbery? These are hard working professionals with hearts of gold. Shame on you.
It started out innocently. I saw this and saw some humor in it:
Jealous? Far from it. You think the Colombian BFs can not figure out what she is doing out every night without him while dressed to kill? This idiot posting the youtube videos could cut into her and her Colombian BFs Western Union gravy train. I hope the youtuber gets what he deserves because he is making Colombia and our sport look bad.Which set up perfectly for:
It's a sport now? Not many sports where you can get into the pros with just a dick and $10.I didn't think it needed an explanation, but apparently I was mistaken.
I am in the sport. I am not a pro. I am in the Pee Wee League building up my confidence. I do not think I am winning but after every game I feel as if I just won the Super Bowl.He kind of missed it, but finished on a good note. So, I put it out there again, making the play on words a little more obvious:
If you're not getting into the pros every time, you're doing it wrong.That's where things went horribly wrong. At least for Elvis. I understand that it's more of a groaner than a side splitter, but surely anyone should be able to pick up on the pun. Almost anyone.
Uh, okay fish story, we all know you are bigger, badder, and better than everyone else in your own mind. Give it a rest, Mr. "solid 4".Not only did he miss it completely, he somehow thought I was trying to brag about something.
That might be the most embarrassing moment in the history of ISG.
Mr Enternational
02-18-23, 16:00
That's where things went horribly wrong. At least for Elvis. I understand that it's more of a groaner than a side splitter, but surely anyone should be able to pick up on the pun. Almost anyone.
Not only did he miss it completely, he somehow thought I was trying to brag about something.That is par for the course. If you write what you mean, then he can not pick up on it; if you write what you don't mean, then he can not pick up on it. I think everyone is used to it by now.
Probably Bancolombia. A girl I know left her billfold with cedula, driver's license, Bancolombia debit card and Bancolombia Visa at a hotel. The hotel found it and it was sent to her, but it arrived with no cash, no Bancolombia card and no Visa. They didn't get much from her savings account, but 2 million COP was charged on her Visa and she had to pay it.I am from Canada, and fraudulent credit card charges are not the responsibility of the card holder. This is Colombia and this is not easy to make happen, but once the banks start being held liable for fraudulent charges and then naturally they will next come down on the merchants I believe things will change. How could the store clerk not check the ID with the name on the credit card? They are in pure cohoots. Once the merchant gets charged and loses their ability to process electronic payments, things will improve for the victims.
Elvis 2008
02-19-23, 01:46
It started out innocently. I saw this and saw some humor in it:
Which set up perfectly for:
I didn't think it needed an explanation, but apparently I was mistaken.
He kind of missed it, but finished on a good note. So, I put it out there again, making the play on words a little more obvious:
That's where things went horribly wrong. At least for Elvis. I understand that it's more of a groaner than a side splitter, but surely anyone should be able to pick up on the pun. Almost anyone.
Not only did he miss it completely, he somehow thought I was trying to brag about something.
That might be the most embarrassing moment in the history of ISG.Horribly wrong? Most embarrassing moment in ISG? How about your spreading Covid throughout Colombia after bragging about how you knew so much about it? Oh, yeah, that was nothing.
Loveithere is calling the hobby, paying women for money, a sport. You attempt to make a joke with the word sport, and it was not funny at all.
What you miss is he takes your comment seriously. "I am not a pro. I am in the Pee Wee League building up my confidence. I do not think I am winning".
Does that sound like a guy who got your joke? If so, then why did you repeat it a second time?
Then you double down and claim that "he is doing it wrong".
Now you are like, "Elvis was too stupid to get my pun. " No, I got it, but the reason you repeated it is that you think you are so fucking brilliant people cannot understand you.
So this is your game. When I kick your ass, you do not admit defeat. You are such an arrogant fuck you just think I do not understand your POV.
In fact, your "joke" says it all. Your "joke" was not funny. So what did you do? The same shit you always do. You think If you tell it a different way, everyone will laugh their heads off when it was even more offensive and more arrogant than your first attempt and just as painfully not funny.
And if my reading comprehension was the problem, then why did you tell your dumb "joke" a second time?
Narcissists tend to be selfish and self-involved and are usually unable to understand what other people are feeling. That just is another check mark to add to the list Lebron. You are just embarrassing yourself again.
I am from Canada, and fraudulent credit card charges are not the responsibility of the card holder. This is Colombia and this is not easy to make happen, but once the banks start being held liable for fraudulent charges and then naturally they will next come down on the merchants I believe things will change. How could the store clerk not check the ID with the name on the credit card? They are in pure cohoots. Once the merchant gets charged and loses their ability to process electronic payments, things will improve for the victims.I use credit and debit cards all the time in the US, Canada and Colombia. I've never been asked for my ID that I can recall. Many places there's nobody to check your ID, with the self checkout lanes. And of course there are all the online merchants.
In most cases, if you're using a US or Canadian bank you're not liable for fraud. However, if you're using a card issued by a Colombian bank, those protections don't exist.
You might not suffer a financial loss, but it can be troublesome if your card gets canceled due to fraud.
LoveItHere69
02-19-23, 17:13
What you miss is he takes your comment seriously. "I am not a pro. I am in the Pee Wee League building up my confidence. I do not think I am winning".
Does that sound like a guy who got your joke?I assumed he was talking about me. I do street girls and the ones I go after I do not consider "pro". Most the girls I am with are part-timers not everyday, work 2 years max and find a financial supporter, and ones that may be in the game longer but do not have that hardened attitude. I consider the "pros" to be the ones that charge for every little thing as extras, mechanical or dead fish in bed, watch the clock, rush things, fake their having fun by moaning after just 5 seconds thinking you will cum faster. My "pro" and your "pro" definition may not be the same. I do not care. Let's not spend 5 pages on its definition please. The only "pro" I have been with in the last year is Rosy Palm and she pulled a tendon. A moment of silence please to reflect on the good times.
AmorPorFavor
02-19-23, 18:28
I use credit and debit cards all the time in the US, Canada and Colombia. I've never been asked for my ID that I can recall. Many places there's nobody to check your ID, with the self checkout lanes. And of course there are all the online merchants.
In most cases, if you're using a US or Canadian bank you're not liable for fraud. However, if you're using a card issued by a Colombian bank, those protections don't exist.
You might not suffer a financial loss, but it can be troublesome if your card gets canceled due to fraud.I thought you recently said to use cash for everything in Colombia? I will be in MDE next week and I will be using my two no foreign transaction fee cards that protect me from fraud for everything I can and the cards will never leave my sight when making a purchase. I will get the daily conversion rate. One stays locked up in the safe at all times with my ATM card when not in use. I stay in a building with very tight security. This makes my vacation much easier than dealing with cash all the time and limits the amount of wasted time going to ATM's. Cash is for the chicas and misc small purchases or if they don't take cards. And I don't do street girls or tinder. Only SA and FB girls who I have been friends with for a while and post a lot about their lives.
I thought you recently said to use cash for everything in Colombia? I will be in MDE next week and I will be using my two no foreign transaction fee cards that protect me from fraud for everything I can and the cards will never leave my sight when making a purchase. I will get the daily conversion rate. One stays locked up in the safe at all times with my ATM card when not in use. I stay in a building with very tight security. This makes my vacation much easier than dealing with cash all the time and limits the amount of wasted time going to ATM's. Cash is for the chicas and misc small purchases or if they don't take cards. And I don't do street girls or tinder. Only SA and FB girls who I have been friends with for a while and post a lot about their lives.I use both, or all 3 in Colombia: Cash Credit cards and Debit cards.
I usually rent a car and use a credit card for that for the additional insurance coverage. For lodging I might use anything, depending on where I'm staying. For restaurants it depends. For more typical meals I'll use cash, fancy dinners I'll use a card. For store purchases I always use cash and pay with either a 50 k or 100 k note, to get more small bills.
Also, if the exchange rate is peaking I'll withdraw a bunch for next time.
I've found that timing my withdraw and using cash occasionally results in a better than best exchange rate.
Mr Enternational
02-20-23, 04:58
How could the store clerk not check the ID with the name on the credit card? They are in pure cohoots. Once the merchant gets charged and loses their ability to process electronic payments, things will improve for the victims.Damn man. You are living in the stone ages. I do not think anyone on this planet has asked me for ID when I have handed them a credit card in the last 20 years. Why do you assume the clerk is at fault? There are data breaches all the time.
AmorPorFavor
02-20-23, 05:06
I use both, or all 3 in Colombia: Cash Credit cards and Debit cards.
I usually rent a car and use a credit card for that for the additional insurance coverage. For lodging I might use anything, depending on where I'm staying. For restaurants it depends. For more typical meals I'll use cash, fancy dinners I'll use a card. For store purchases I always use cash and pay with either a 50 k or 100 k note, to get more small bills.
Also, if the exchange rate is peaking I'll withdraw a bunch for next time.
I've found that timing my withdraw and using cash occasionally results in a better than best exchange rate.Now you are making some sense.
I assumed he was talking about me. I do street girls and the ones I go after I do not consider "pro". Most the girls I am with are part-timers not everyday, work 2 years max and find a financial supporter, and ones that may be in the game longer but do not have that hardened attitude. I consider the "pros" to be the ones that charge for every little thing as extras, mechanical or dead fish in bed, watch the clock, rush things, fake their having fun by moaning after just 5 seconds thinking you will cum faster. My "pro" and your "pro" definition may not be the same. I do not care. Let's not spend 5 pages on its definition please. The only "pro" I have been with in the last year is Rosy Palm and she pulled a tendon. A moment of silence please to reflect on the good times.Actually, I wasn't talking about anyone. I didn't know you wrote the post about sport until you responded with the "pee wee league" post.
I try to read and respond to posts before seeing who wrote them. It lets me view the content without prejudice.
I found your reference to our "sport" funny, so I went with it. Sport - $10, a dick and a hooker and you're "into the pros. ".
Although it was clear you missed the joke, I enjoyed the Pee Wee League reply. All by itself it was a good post. Which led to my 2nd joke and Elvis' epic failure. Again, it wasn't a dgf at you, just a joke.
I don't know if it will take 5 pages, but there's a problem with your definition. Common usage here accepts "pro" as a generic term for a prostitute. You might consider the girls you see as amateurs, but if you're paying for sex, they're pros.
You can add whatever adjectives you want, but at the heart of it there's still a pro, a girl who fucks for money.
Personally, I agree with your preferences.
My jokes might not have been funny to you or Elvis, but the fact they went completely over your heads is hilarious.
LoveItHere69
02-20-23, 18:33
I don't know if it will take 5 pages, but there's a problem with your definition. Common usage here accepts "pro" as a generic term for a prostitute. You might consider the girls you see as amateurs, but if you're paying for sex, they're pros.
You can add whatever adjectives you want, but at the heart of it there's still a pro, a girl who fucks for money.Disagree. You can pay in movies, dinners, drinks, shopping, trips, or cash. Any way you slice it you are paying with money. One way is direct payment and the others are indirect payment. You really consider the girl who just came over the border and been available for a month the same as the 40 year old that has been doing it for 15 years?
You pay with time, energy, and / or money. I do not want to waste my time or my energy anymore. I want a sure money straight up deal.
Mr Enternational
02-20-23, 19:56
Actually, I wasn't talking about anyone. I didn't know you wrote the post about sport until you responded with the "pee wee league" post.
I found your reference to our "sport" funny, so I went with it. Sport - $10, a dick and a hooker and you're "into the pros. ".
Although it was clear you missed the joke, I enjoyed the Pee Wee League reply. Made sense to me because when I see pro I read it as being short for prostitute. I know other guys read it as being a level or frequency of selling pussy; or read it as being short for professional.
Disagree. You can pay in movies, dinners, drinks, shopping, trips, or cash. Any way you slice it you are paying with money..You are correct if your only interest in women is their pussy. And they can sense it when you are only picking up the tab at the restaurant to try and get in their pants. That's precisely why they enjoy eating a fine steak on you only to leave you high and dry. LOL And that's precisely why you, though only in your 30's, have to lurk around Botero Plaza putting up with the fake moaning and requests of "leche baby. " I rest my case.
I'll add that buying dinner and drinks while spending time in the company of an interesting woman is money well spent. I do the same for family and friends. It's not "payment" for anything, and it's truly sad when someone has such a shallow view of personal relationships. It's also custom in our culture for men to pick up the tab on dates though some women like to pay their own way.
Elvis 2008
02-21-23, 17:32
Disagree. You can pay in movies, dinners, drinks, shopping, trips, or cash. Any way you slice it you are paying with money. One way is direct payment and the others are indirect payment. You really consider the girl who just came over the border and been available for a month the same as the 40 year old that has been doing it for 15 years?
You pay with time, energy, and / or money. I do not want to waste my time or my energy anymore. I want a sure money straight up deal.Yeah, that is right. A father's worst nightmare is an unemployed daughter marrying an unemployed guy for "love."
In every culture I have studied, marriage involves some kind of exchange of money for the woman, and the clowns here forget why. It is because when a woman is pregnant and gives birth, she is often a near invalid and totally dependent on the man. If the man does not provide, the burden shifts back to the woman's family and that makes them unhappy. So a family is going to want a husband who is a provider who keeps the woman safe, secure, and happy. This notion that you "don't pay for sex" is also saying you are shit suitor material.
If you want to short change the above process, and most guys should unless they want to be married, then you pay directly as you suggest.
On the flip side, if you are an in demand woman with hundreds of suitors, you would be a complete idiot not to consider money when picking a mate. A lot of these women may have a fling with some Adonis type just for fun or a one night stand with some cute or funny guy when they are at a point in life where they are not interested in marriage. These guys delude themselves into thinking the women really like them because they did not pay them when they are just a fling. When these women get serious, they are going to evaluate a man as provider.
With the Medellin morons here though, they are fucking women so ugly no one would pay them, and they try to make themselves out as studs because they are "not paying for it." Ironically, many of the women they have seen are former broken down WGs.
Look at the women who really would not take money or do not get money for sex. What do you have? Nuns, ugly women, Inexperienced and frigid women, lesbians, or women who hate men (a lot of those). Guys who think banging a virgin is the ultimate have never been with one. It is not a good time.
So while the Medellin morons say "we do not pay for it" on a P4P forum, they are not getting quality women. When they say they are getting pussy for less they really are not. When I went to Colombia and thought about paying what they did, I could get women, but the women were pigs. And with the Medellin morons, there is no such thing as an in demand women. No, all women are the same.
Bottom line is you are doing fine. I just do not like it that the Medellin morons are making you feel like a rookie. I think you have it figured out better than most.
Mr Enternational
02-21-23, 18:01
You are correct if your only interest in women is their pussy. There is a difference between a cost and a payment. Should I turn down a job because there is a cost I will incur for a car and gas in order to get there? Life costs money, but that does not mean we are paying to live. It costs money to go out and do things with a person that you like, but that does not mean you are paying for the person.
Anthony2023
02-21-23, 23:43
Why do colombianas like tussi so much?
I understand it used to be popular among the "elites" when in was priced much higher.
Is it still popular with the "elites" or are only the hood rats using it?
I personally wouldn't sniff anything up my nose, too much fentanyl going around now a days.
Anthony2023
02-22-23, 00:05
though only in your 30's, have to lurk around Botero Plaza putting up with the fake moaning and requests of "leche baby. .Are girls at botero plaza really requesting "leche" ! Oh my! I'm not a street guy but if a some what attractive street girl randomly asked to give her my leche that would be really intriguing LOL. I would still most likely politely turn down but would be flattering. I get a lot of "psss" like I'm some kind of dog in Tijuana LOL to the point where I just started wearing AirPods when I would walk around the zona. I think I'll go just to experience the request if this is true LOL.
Personally I don't think anyone in their 30's should be picking up street girls unless you are fat or ugly.
PigSavinBoy
02-22-23, 01:35
Are girls at botero plaza really requesting "leche"He means during sex.
Personally I don't think anyone in their 30's should be picking up street girls unless you are fat or ugly.Why you don't think anyone in their 30's should be fucking hookers (unless fat and ugly)?
Anthony2023
02-22-23, 04:52
He means during sex.
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Why you don't think anyone in their 30's should be fucking hookers (unless fat and ugly)?Key word "street" hookers. Well there's many reasons why but I guess even if you are fat and ugly you shouldn't if you're in your 30's. Why because those are usually the bottom of the barrel, usually unattractive and more than likely don't care as much about their health. Another reason they tend to attract cheap johns that more than likely don't care about their health either. So unless you are in your 30's or younger and don't care about any of that go ahead and knock yourself out.
I on the other hand have been with many hookers but never any I picked off the street. I rather take less risks and pay more attractive women. That's just my experience. I'm also aware some street girls go to clubs or work fb I'm aware of all that, I'm just going by from what I've personally seen on the street. I'm sure as you age and get older you'll start caring less and less if your dick falls off one day, especially once you start needing to take pills just to get it up. But like I said if you are in your 30's or younger I wouldn't recommend street girls or barebacking any type of hooker. Your health should be more important. The guys who are barebacking hookers tend to usually be older gentlemen who don't care as much about the risks anymore. I guess if they catch something they figured well at least they've lived past 50 LOL.
Key word "street" hookers. Well there's many reasons why but I guess even if you are fat and ugly you shouldn't if you're in your 30's. Why because those are usually the bottom of the barrel, usually unattractive and more than likely don't care as much about their health. Another reason they tend to attract cheap johns that more than likely don't care about their health either. So unless you are in your 30's or younger and don't care about any of that go ahead and knock yourself out.
I suggest you look up the meaning of "non sequitur".
Yeah, that is right. A father's worst nightmare is an unemployed daughter marrying an unemployed guy for "love."
In every culture I have studied, marriage involves some kind of exchange of money for the woman, and the clowns here forget why. It is because when a woman is pregnant and gives birth, she is often a near invalid and totally dependent on the man. If the man does not provide, the burden shifts back to the woman's family and that makes them unhappy. So a family is going to want a husband who is a provider who keeps the woman safe, secure, and happy. This notion that you "don't pay for sex" is also saying you are shit suitor material.
If you want to short change the above process, and most guys should unless they want to be married, then you pay directly as you suggest.
On the flip side, if you are an in demand woman with hundreds of suitors, you would be a complete idiot not to consider money when picking a mate. A lot of these women may have a fling with some Adonis type just for fun or a one night stand with some cute or funny guy when they are at a point in life where they are not interested in marriage. These guys delude themselves into thinking the women really like them because they did not pay them when they are just a fling. When these women get serious, they are going to evaluate a man as provider.
With the Medellin morons here though, they are fucking women so ugly no one would pay them, and they try to make themselves out as studs because they are "not paying for it." Ironically, many of the women they have seen are former broken down WGs.
Look at the women who really would not take money or do not get money for sex. What do you have? Nuns, ugly women, Inexperienced and frigid women, lesbians, or women who hate men (a lot of those). Guys who think banging a virgin is the ultimate have never been with one. It is not a good time.
So while the Medellin morons say "we do not pay for it" on a P4P forum, they are not getting quality women. When they say they are getting pussy for less they really are not. When I went to Colombia and thought about paying what they did, I could get women, but the women were pigs. And with the Medellin morons, there is no such thing as an in demand women. No, all women are the same.
Bottom line is you are doing fine. I just do not like it that the Medellin morons are making you feel like a rookie. I think you have it figured out better than most.Yeah. You might want to check your blood sugar, because even for you this is batshit crazy.
1. Pretty sure there are many worse nightmares for a father.
2. I'm pretty sure Loveithere and almost everyone else has no desire to be a suitor. According to him, his preferred fishing spot is El Centro.
3. Unless you're looking to buy a wife, the "in demand" thing is just garbage. If you're looking for someone to spend the rest of your years with, there's much more to it than "how much am I going to have to give her to overlook my obvious faults. " If you had ever been able to get a woman, instead of buying one you would understand. You see, that fling with the Adonis type, it will happen again and again, because some needs aren't filled with money. Hell, chances are they aren't even anything special, just normal guys who they're not afraid to let get on top of them.
4. According to you, the only ISG member you've met is DramaQueen. How do you know what the girls anyone else is fucking look like? I've met dozens of guys from here, and from the women I've seen them with, or seen pictures of, not a single one comes anywhere close to "so ugly no one would pay them. " Unless you have some special clairvoyant abilities, you have no idea what kind of women anyone else is fucking.
5. Lots of women will not take money for sex. Most women will not take money for sex. Most women aren't even interested in men who would give money for sex. If your statement carried any weight there would easily be 1 million prostitutes in Medellin and 3 million in Bogota. They would all starve for lack of customers.
6. Nobody is saying they don't pay for it. Again, check that blood sugar.
7. Nobody has said all women are the same. The only comment close to that is what I've long said, find what works for you. It doesn't help anyone if they follow your advice, spend several thousand dollars to try to convince an over the hill chick to marry them, when they're just looking for a quick fuck from someone without grey pubes.
8. Nobody is making Loveithere look like a rookie. I made a joke. He didn't get it. I made another joke neither you nor he got it. He likes street hookers. Nothing wrong with that. However, he's doing the exact thing you're complaining about people doing; getting the girls he wants instead of finding an "in demand girl" and becoming a "suitor. ".
Just a little addendum on your previous lunacy.
You've never managed to kick my ass, haven't even made it up to my ankle. Frankly, the possibility of you kicking my ass in any literal or figurative sense is beyond laughable. If you even tried, your fat ass would do the ol' Humpty Dumpty.
Key word "street" hookers. Well there's many reasons why but I guess even if you are fat and ugly you shouldn't if you're in your 30's. Why because those are usually the bottom of the barrel, usually unattractive and more than likely don't care as much about their health. Another reason they tend to attract cheap johns that more than likely don't care about their health either. So unless you are in your 30's or younger and don't care about any of that go ahead and knock yourself out.
I on the other hand have been with many hookers but never any I picked off the street. So in actual fact, you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about. At all.
Mr Enternational
02-23-23, 02:21
Key word "street" hookers. Well there's many reasons why but I guess even if you are fat and ugly you shouldn't if you're in your 30's. Why because those are usually the bottom of the barrel, usually unattractive and more than likely don't care as much about their health. On the contrary, I would say the exact opposite is the truth. Usually the street chicks insisting on condoms even for oral, while folks mention going raw with how many chicks that they have gotten off facebook or sa? Not sure how you can even make a comparison if you have no experience with one of the categories.
Mr Enternational
02-23-23, 02:26
Yeah, that is right. A father's worst nightmare is an unemployed daughter marrying an unemployed guy for "love."
In every culture I have studied, marriage involves some kind of exchange of money for the woman, and the clowns here forget why. It is because when a woman is pregnant and gives birth, she is often a near invalid and totally dependent on the man. If the man does not provide, the burden shifts back to the woman's family and that makes them unhappy. So a family is going to want a husband who is a provider who keeps the woman safe, secure, and happy. This notion that you "don't pay for sex" is also saying you are shit suitor material.This would usually be for a young virgin girl that has no kids, not a 35 year old with a kid that is almost grown themselves. That ship has already sailed. Nobody is making a big deal over a chick that could literally be a grandmother any day now.
According to you, the only ISG member you've met is DramaQueen. I have met Elvis but I am sure he blocked it out since he made such a fool out of himself. I doubt he remembers me but that doesn't stop him from talking about who I fuck, how much I drink, etc. I believe he is a serial bloviator and likely engages in felching.
Elvis 2008
02-23-23, 18:02
I have met Elvis but I am sure he blocked it out since he made such a fool out of himself. I doubt he remembers me but that doesn't stop him from talking about who I fuck, how much I drink, etc. I believe he is a serial bloviator and likely engages in felching.Oh yeah, you were the guy wearing drag clothes. Sorry, I never met you. Before I had guys saying I had not been to Colombia and now you keep claiming I met you. I never met you and do not know why you keep lying about it.
Elvis 2008
02-23-23, 18:03
This would usually be for a young virgin girl that has no kids, not a 35 year old with a kid that is almost grown themselves. That ship has already sailed. Nobody is making a big deal over a chick that could literally be a grandmother any day now.Yawn, obviously, you have never been with a virgin.
Elvis 2008
02-23-23, 19:07
the "in demand" thing is just garbage.If you want to know how I know you are fucking ugly women, you post crap like no women are in more demand. Saying 10's and 1's having equal demand is you advertising you fuck ugly women.
If you had ever been able to get a woman, instead of buying one you would understand.LOL. And here you go again bragging about not paying for it while you banged ugly drunk women.
You see, that fling with the Adonis type, it will happen again and again, because some needs aren't filled with money. Hell, chances are they aren't even anything special, just normal guys who they're not afraid to let get on top of them.So Mr. 60 year old truck driver who was hanging around a bar whacking off all day for a year is God's gift to women? And you are banging 10's while doing so? Oh right, there are no 10's in your world. That is too subjective. You fuck ugly drunk women and think you are such the stud.
How do you know what the girls anyone else is fucking look like? I've met dozens of guys from here, and from the women I've seen them with, or seen pictures of, not a single one comes anywhere close to "so ugly no one would pay them. " Unless you have some special clairvoyant abilities, you have no idea what kind of women anyone else is fucking.Yeah, it is not like I paid for sex and saw what was available for what cost. Your comment that you have never met any woman who comes "anywhere close to so ugly no one would pay for them" also speaks volumes about the quality of women you are fucking.
Lots of women will not take money for sex. Most women will not take money for sex. Most women aren't even interested in men who would give money for sex. If your statement carried any weight there would easily be 1 million prostitutes in Medellin and 3 million in Bogota. They would all starve for lack of customers.So most women are not interested in money now? God, you are dumb.
Nobody is saying they don't pay for it.You just said most women do not take money for sex. Then you bragged about banging women without paying. Now it is every guy pays for it here. Can you make up your mind?
Nobody has said all women are the same.You just did when you said there is no such thing as "in demand" women.
It doesn't help anyone if they follow your advice, spend several thousand dollars to try to convince an over the hill chick to marry them, when they're just looking for a quick fuck from someone without grey pubes.As opposed to your advice of driving a truck? Or thinking you are God's gift to women sitting in a bar drinking and watching porn night after night? Or being scammed by some cam girl?
My advice dumb ass was that people NOT follow what I am doing but get themselves a harem. I have said that time and again. I guess YOUR reading comprehension is shit.
Nobody is making Loveithere look like a rookie.I made a joke. He didn't get it. I made another joke neither you nor he got it.Is that your version of what happened? Keep telling yourself that 10 X and maybe you will believe it.
However, he's doing the exact thing you're complaining about people doingI said "Bottom line is you are doing fine. I think you have it figured out better than most. " Obviously, your definition of complaining is as bad as your definition of joke. Maybe we should just define any of your posts as a joke and move forward.
getting the girls he wants instead of finding an "in demand girl" and becoming a "suitor. ".Here is what I posted, "If you want to short change the above process, and most guys should unless they want to be married, then you pay directly as you suggest. ".
Your post is so full of straw men it is a miracle it did not catch fire.
You've never managed to kick my ass, haven't even made it up to my ankle.With this post, I did not need to. It was so fucking stupid you kicked your own ass. You are just ranting for the sake of ranting.
Elvis 2008
02-23-23, 19:53
not a 35 year old with a kid that is almost grown themselves. That ship has already sailed. Nobody is making a big deal over a chick that could literally be a grandmother any day now.LOL. https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/beauty/a12835565/average-age-most-beautiful-woman-38/.
The average age of the world's most beautiful person is now 38.
Scientists from Boston University School of Medicine compared the 50 celebrities who were listed in People magazine's "World's Most Beautiful" list in 1990 with the 135 featured in the 2017 ranking. While the average age of those named the most beautiful was 33.2 around 27 years ago, it was found to be 38.9 this year.
When you say "nobody", you should say none of you Medellin morons care. That would better reflect what a bunch of morons you all really are. To a Medellin moron, there is no definition of what a 10 is and no such thing as an in demand women. You yourself said any woman with a pussy has demand, but you morons sure as hell as keep pushing this bullshit that younger is always better.
Granted, there are fewer attractive women in their 30's than 20's but for me even before I met my current gal, the women who kept their looks into their 30's and beyond blew away the younger women in terms of sexual performance and overall experience.
Anthony2023
02-24-23, 00:13
On the contrary, I would say the exact opposite is the truth. Usually the street chicks insisting on condoms even for oral, while folks mention going raw with how many chicks that they have gotten off facebook or sa? Not sure how you can even make a comparison if you have no experience with one of the categories.I compare by looking at the type of John's that walk up to the street girls. They almost appear to look homeless, most of the time cheap and nasty looking. That tells you a lot about the kind of girls that would work with these men. I'm not just talking about Colombia, I'm talking about all street John's. John's looking for a cheap fuck most likely have stds and rather risk giving it to street hookers vs a girl they met or a GF. I mean if you had a std or even worse aids I doubt you would be dating right?
Yeah no thanks I'll pass on girls who take risks on the street.
Anthony2023
02-24-23, 00:15
So in actual fact, you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about. At all.Not a single clue.
Oh yeah, you were the guy wearing drag clothes. Sorry, I never met you. Before I had guys saying I had not been to Colombia and now you keep claiming I met you. I never met you and do not know why you keep lying about it.We met in Argentina.
I compare by looking at the type of John's that walk up to the street girls. They almost appear to look homeless, most of the time cheap and nasty looking. That tells you a lot about the kind of girls that would work with these men. I'm not just talking about Colombia, I'm talking about all street John's. John's looking for a cheap fuck most likely have stds and rather risk giving it to street hookers vs a girl they met or a GF. I mean if you had a std or even worse aids I doubt you would be dating right?
Yeah no thanks I'll pass on girls who take risks on the street.What an idiotic thing to post. Your basically being racist or classist.
Like I said, check that blood sugar. Probably should have stopped after the first dozen donuts. And I see your reading comprehension remains at about 2nd grade level.
If you want to know how I know you are fucking ugly women, you post crap like no women are in more demand. Saying 10's and 1's having equal demand is you advertising you fuck ugly women.Nope. Never posted that no women are in demand. Which has nothing to do with the women I've fucked or am currently fucking. However, if just looking for a girl to fuck, why spend weeks or months trying to outbid all the other fat clowns? You can't turn around in Medellin without bumping into a beautiful woman. Who, other than you, is pathetic enough to spend enough to support 10 Colombian families for a year, for an hour of sex? And if you're looking for a girl to marry, and you have to be a huge loser if you can only find one desperate enough in a third world country, what kind of idiot keeps throwing money at someone until she'll finally overcomes her disgust and agrees to be with him?
LOL. And here you go again bragging about not paying for it while you banged ugly drunk women.I understand that you're easily confused. Sure I've gotten sex without paying for it. I still can. Anyone can, except for you. From my teens to early 40's, fucking 18-30 year olds was easy. After that, it remained easy, but they kept getting older. When I hit 50 and that bottom age was approaching 40, I decided I didn't want to plow in those fields. I saw 2 options, either put a lot more time and effort into finding women under 30 who were into guys my age, or rent them. So you're going off of stuff 10 years out of date.
For the record, haven't fucked a drunk woman in at least 15 years. Won't even spend time with a woman who is the least bit tipsy. I also won't hang with any that do any drugs other than an occasional girl who smokes weed, and then only for a quick fuck.
So Mr. 60 year old truck driver who was hanging around a bar whacking off all day for a year is God's gift to women? And you are banging 10's while doing so? Oh right, there are no 10's in your world. That is too subjective. You fuck ugly drunk women and think you are such the stud.That first sentence? First grade English, and that's being generous.
Maybe the bars you hang out in allow guys to whack off, but I don't frequent those kinds of places.
It appears your constant state of confusion is contagious. Are you talking about the current me, the 60 year old truck driver, or the guy who was in Medellin 5-6 years ago? I wasn't 60 then, or driving a truck. And of course since I do consider a subjective scale to be a subjective scale, I never made any claim about any 10's, or about being a stud. Although I have repeatedly pointed out that getting laid isn't hard to do, especially in Medellin.
Yeah, it is not like I paid for sex and saw what was available for what cost. Your comment that you have never met any woman who comes "anywhere close to so ugly no one would pay for them" also speaks volumes about the quality of women you are fucking.There's that damned reading comprehension tripping you up again. I never said that. Not even close. Maybe it's time to dust off all that old "Hooked on Phonics" stuff.
Let's try this again. I've met dozens of ISG members in Medellin. We've talked about various women, comparing notes, asking opinions, sharing pictures. Some of us are friends on Facebook. In more direct terms, I know some of the women they've fucked. Most know some of the women I've fucked. Based upon that knowledge, none are fucking ugly women or fat women.
So most women are not interested in money now? God, you are dumb.That reading comprehension is a real pain in the ass isn't it? It's tripping you up on every fucking sentence.
Nobody said most women aren't interested in money. Certainly I never said it. I said:
"Most women will not take money for sex. Most women aren't even interested in men who would give money for sex. ".
See the difference? Interesting tidbit: one of my ex-girlfriends was an engineer for a company that has a big market share in glucose test strips for fat diabetics. If you want I can see if she can recommend a different glucose monitor for you.
You just said most women do not take money for sex. Then you bragged about banging women without paying. Now it is every guy pays for it here. Can you make up your mind?You should get a lawyer and sue whatever teacher claimed to have taught you to read. They lied out their ass. I'm assuming they just gave you a passing grade so they didn't have to deal with the fat kid getting stuck in his desk every day.
Can I make up my mind about what?
1. Most women won't take money for sex. Simple. Testable.
2. I've had sex with women who didn't require payment. Most guys have.
3. Most guys on ISG say they are paying for sex.
None of these things are contradictory.
You just did when you said there is no such thing as "in demand" women.Now even I'm getting pissed at the teachers who failed to do their jobs with you.
1. As noted above, I never said there's no such thing as in demand women.
2. Even if I did, that in no way would suggest that all women are the same.
As opposed to your advice of driving a truck? Or thinking you are God's gift to women sitting in a bar drinking and watching porn night after night? Or being scammed by some cam girl?I don't recall giving advice on driving a truck. Nobody seems to come on ISG asking for truck driving advice. If they did, I'm probably reasonably well qualified to give it.
I'm really baffled about this "God's gift to women" trip you're on. Where did that come from? Haven't really sat in a bar much in several years either, other than to have a beer with a fellow ISG member. We don't watch porn when we meet and chat. Poor wifi.
Never got scammed by a cam girl either, but we've already been over that 46 times.
My advice dumb ass was that people NOT follow what I am doing but get themselves a harem. I have said that time and again. I guess YOUR reading comprehension is shit.My reading comprehension is fine. The advice to get a harem is equally as useless to a guy who wants nothing more than to fuck once and move on to the next.
Is that your version of what happened? Keep telling yourself that 10 X and maybe you will believe it.
I said "Bottom line is you are doing fine. I think you have it figured out better than most. " Obviously, your definition of complaining is as bad as your definition of joke. Maybe we should just define any of your posts as a joke and move forward.
Here is what I posted, "If you want to short change the above process, and most guys should unless they want to be married, then you pay directly as you suggest. ".
Your post is so full of straw men it is a miracle it did not catch fire.There's really nothing there worth the effort to make fun of.
With this post, I did not need to. It was so fucking stupid you kicked your own ass. You are just ranting for the sake of ranting.I agree. Your post was so fucking stupid, you kicked your own ass.
LuvMexicanas
02-24-23, 18:59
We met in Argentina.Given that he claims you're lying which I don't think is true, perhaps provide a detailed physical description to jog his memory.
LuvMexicanas
02-24-23, 21:19
I meant of him not you and beyond him just being a gordo.
I meant of him not you and beyond him just being a gordo.Dude it was a LOT of years ago. Taller than me, younger than me is all I got except fat. White. Now it's possible I am wrong if there is more than one Elvis who posts. There was another Elvis on the Argentina board but his name was actually Elvis and he was from Ecuador.
Elvis 2008
02-26-23, 00:09
Nope. Never posted that no women are in demand. Which has nothing to do with the women I've fucked or am currently fucking. However, if just looking for a girl to fuck, why spend weeks or months trying to outbid all the other fat clowns? You can't turn around in Medellin without bumping into a beautiful woman. Who, other than you, is pathetic enough to spend enough to support 10 Colombian families for a year, for an hour of sex? And if you're looking for a girl to marry, and you have to be a huge loser if you can only find one desperate enough in a third world country, what kind of idiot keeps throwing money at someone until she'll finally overcomes her disgust and agrees to be with him?I am sure that is what you believe. Truth is I went out with a 10 right before having an epic trip with three SBs. I saw her for six months and paid her nothing for sex just expenses. She ran out of Covid pay, and I volunteered to pay her wages so I could see her more. We have been together for 2 years solid now, and I have not seen any woman posted on these forums who can top her.
On the other hand, you got all lovey-dovey with a sugar baby, mistook her for a GF, paid for everything, and either got bored or got dumped. And in your fucked up head, you consider that winning. Is Charlie Sheen your brother?
Sure I've gotten sex without paying for it. I still can. Anyone can, except for you.And now you are lying again. I went on seeking, advocated that guys go on the site, and not offer women money and got crap for saying that was not realistic. On at least four occasions, and even with the current woman, I was not asked for money.
From my teens to early 40's, fucking 18-30 year olds was easy. After that, it remained easy, but they kept getting older. When I hit 50 and that bottom age was approaching 40, I decided I didn't want to plow in those fields. I saw 2 options, either put a lot more time and effort into finding women under 30 who were into guys my age, or rent them.Who cares what you did when you were 40? What does it cost to get laid on the low end in Colombia? $5? $10? What is the fucking difference? You think you are a stud because you can get laid and not pay $10? Big fucking deal. Truth is you were dumb not to pay for it at 40.
For the record, haven't fucked a drunk woman in at least 15 years. Won't even spend time with a woman who is the least bit tipsy. I also won't hang with any that do any drugs other than an occasional girl who smokes weed, and then only for a quick fuck.So you have standards for hookers? I care if they look good and fuck good when I pay for them. I guess you are too busy doing drug screens on them.
Maybe the bars you hang out in allow guys to whack off, but I don't frequent those kinds of places. I don't hang out in bars. You bragged about watching web cams, getting in debt, and hanging in bars for a whole year. And now the bars are classy? Wow, you really got me there.
It appears your constant state of confusion is contagious. Are you talking about the current me, the 60 year old truck driver, or the guy who was in Medellin 5-6 years ago? I wasn't 60 then, or driving a truck.And here I thought you were 60 now and 60 twenty years ago. You got me there too.
II never made any claim about any 10'sYeah, I know. That is why you fuck ugly women, and you are jealous because I do not.
I have never made a claim about being a stud.LOL. The only thing you have not done yet is post a photo of your dick.
Let's try this again. I've met dozens of ISG members in Medellin. We've talked about various women, comparing notes, asking opinions, sharing pictures. Some of us are friends on Facebook. In more direct terms, I know some of the women they've fucked. Most know some of the women I've fucked. Based upon that knowledge, none are fucking ugly women or fat women.You were bellyaching that La Isla had a few women who met your standards but now all the photos of women you have seen were hot women. I have a Facebook account and looked at the women there. Three are some gems there but there are tons of dogs.
So you are not going to rate them 1 to 10, that is subjective. But your saying they are not ugly is fact? Yeesh. You rate them on a 0 to 1 scale. 0 is ugly. 1 is not, and 100% of the women are 1's. Wow. Your rating system is pure genius, not.
Nobody said most women aren't interested in money. Certainly I never said it. I said:
"Most women will not take money for sex. Most women aren't even interested in men who would give money for sex. "..Oh I see. I must have missed that. Most women are interested in men's money, but they are not exchanging it for sex. So men just throw money at women with no expectations of anything? What color is the sky in your world?
The advice to get a harem is equally as useless to a guy who wants nothing more than to fuck once and move on to the next.That advice is for guys who are tired of fucking the WGs and the typically bad sex that entails. It is rare for a WG to have mind blowing sex with a guy. It happens but not often. The advice is to counter the long term oneitis that is so prevalent in our culture. It is so guys do not get so hung up on one girl like your sorry ass did.
Your post was so fucking stupid, you kicked your own ass.LOL. All you do if fucking lie and say stupid shit. You were not 60 five years ago? Most women are interested in money and men pay them without expecting sex? 0-1 ratings scale where every woman you have ever met is a 1? Your thinking my relationship is a failure but you know what you are doing? Saving $10 when you get laid? What you were doing at 40?
Truth is you were dumb not to pay for it at 40.
Stupid would be an improvement over this post. It was lame and predictable. I am just waiting for you to post a dick pic and brag about how big your cock is and how the women love it so.
It is rare for a WG to have mind blowing sex with a guy. It happens but not often. Ha ha. Mind blowing sex with a WG is rare for you. Maybe you need some anatomy lessons.
Anthony2023
02-27-23, 13:14
What an idiotic thing to post. Your basically being racist or classist.Call it what you want, if you're offended by what I said you obviously fall in that category of John. Stay safe.
Mr Enternational
02-28-23, 01:45
Ha ha. Mind blowing sex with a WG is rare for you. Maybe you need some anatomy lessons.Exactly! Had a chick suck me off in the ante room of a hoarhouse the other day in front of everybody. She insisted on giving me a sample of her mouth.
PabloEscobar
02-28-23, 01:46
Uribe is a politician, and a conservative one at that. Nothing brings out the base like a law and order campaign. They do the same in the US and all over the world. Right now the right has a hard on for Chicago and Philadelphia.As they should, I live in Chicago and it is a war zone. The Democrats don't know how to run a city.
Call it what you want, if you're offended by what I said you obviously fall in that category of John. Stay safe.You damn right I'm a centro street rat to the fucking core. And I wasn't offended by your post, I just find it to be idiotic and I'll advised to make assumptions that street girls are more likely to have Stds than girls from other sources (Facebook, SA, Tinder, whatever you use). The fact of the matter is a high paid SA girl is just as likely to have an Std as a working girl in Botero. You don't know who's usi g condoms and who isn't and with whom. To assume your girl is cleaner because you met her on SA and you paid her 10 x more than you should have, I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken. Odds are your SA girl is probably more likely to have an STD than a street girl because all her clients are dudes who can afford the SA membership fees and obviously have alot more plata to dish out than your average colombian dude seeing a street girl.
That is all, carry-on.
Call it what you want, if you're offended by what I said you obviously fall in that category of John. Stay safe.Add me to the list of people who are not offended by you but think you have no clue whatsoever. You probably won't get robbed and killed since you're latino and fluent but your entire concept of how things work between older mongers and younger hookers and just how things work in Colombia are highly flawed. That's not surprising based on your one single visit. Work on the racism, ageism, and classism thing and work on being less obnoxious. Then you might live long enough to be one of those old mongers you disrespect so often, and might find a woman who is not a gold digger. Odds of you doing that are fairly low, but you don't seem extremely stupid so there could be hope.
Mr Enternational
03-04-23, 01:12
Add me to the list of people who are not offended by you but think you have no clue whatsoever. You probably won't get robbed and killed since you're latino and fluent Except that fluent Latinos are getting robbed and killed everyday.
Except that fluent Latinos are getting robbed and killed everyday.Of course, but you and I both know that the palefaced monoglot is a lot more vulnerable in the mongering arena than the fluent Latino. And, you also knew that was exactly what I meant.
Of course, but you and I both know that the palefaced monoglot is a lot more vulnerable in the mongering arena than the fluent Latino. And, you also knew that was exactly what I meant.It happens to "blanquitos como yo" all the time. Fortunately, if you have common sense (or call it street smarts) you improve your chances exponentially.
Anthony2023
03-06-23, 20:25
You probably won't get robbed and killed since you're latino and fluent I most likely won't get killed and robbed because I have a little something called common sense.
I also don't venture into sketchy parts of town like el centro because I'm not a cheapskate or a pedophile.
Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for.
Being aware of this automatically makes me smarter than you.
LoveItHere69
03-06-23, 21:18
Being aware of this automatically makes me smarter than you.Nobody has really agreed with any of your posts. But myself and others have mentioned repeatedly about your stupidity which you seem to have forgotten about. So you are less than bright and have a memory issue to attend to.
Anthony2023
03-07-23, 04:19
Nobody has really agreed with any of your posts. But myself and others have mentioned repeatedly about your stupidity which you seem to have forgotten about. So you are less than bright and have a memory issue to attend to.Do you really think I post in "stupid shit in medellin" for others to agree with me? In fact I expect most not to agree with me and don't care if I offend anyone because unlike most people on here I'm not afraid to voice my opinion.
My point was that the simple fact that I don't explore "shady parts of town like" el centro, automatically makes me wiser than people who do. Again that's just my take on it. So if you don't agree with that, well you know what to do.
I also don't venture into sketchy parts of town like el centro because I'm not a cheapskate or a pedophile.
Not sure which part of town you stay in when your here, but name me the week when there was not a mugging or robbery in Poblado or Laureles?
Also name me the paedophile that was targetted to commit a crime against.
I most likely won't get killed and robbed because I have a little something called common sense.
I also don't venture into sketchy parts of town like el centro because I'm not a cheapskate or a pedophile.
Like the old saying goes, you get what you pay for.
Being aware of this automatically makes me smarter than you.My first time in Medellin I asked a taxi to give me a tour of el centro red light area at night. It's a dump. I don't care if you speak Spanish or look Latino. I'm not broke or desperate enough to party and walk around there. If you're living on 1 k social security a month, then maybe. Other than that, no way.
Do you really think I post in "stupid shit in medellin" for others to agree with me? In fact I expect most not to agree with me and don't care if I offend anyone because unlike most people on here I'm not afraid to voice my opinion.
My point was that the simple fact that I don't explore "shady parts of town like" el centro, automatically makes me wiser than people who do. Again that's just my take on it. So if you don't agree with that, well you know what to do.You are truly amazing, and greatly admired.
You damn right I'm a centro street rat to the fucking core. And I wasn't offended by your post, I just find it to be idiotic and I'll advised to make assumptions that street girls are more likely to have Stds than girls from other sources (Facebook, SA, Tinder, whatever you use). The fact of the matter is a high paid SA girl is just as likely to have an Std as a working girl in Botero. You don't know who's usi g condoms and who isn't and with whom. To assume your girl is cleaner because you met her on SA and you paid her 10 x more than you should have, I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken. Odds are your SA girl is probably more likely to have an STD than a street girl because all her clients are dudes who can afford the SA membership fees and obviously have alot more plata to dish out than your average colombian dude seeing a street girl.
That is all, carry-on.What a stupid post. Street WGs are at the bottom of a puta hierarchy. Bottom feeders, the most desperate putas out there, who will do anything for money or extra tip. Most of them are on drugs or have other health issues. Doing multiple guys every freaking day, oftentimes without a condom, increases the odds of STD significantly. Cheap rates make SW girls fuck more guys per day to make ends meet vs a Seeking girl who might only have one, or very few, sugar daddies, or who would fuck gringos part time, because of other commitments, like a regular job, college, family, etc. High end girls tend to charge more, fuck less, and have the means to take care of their health, and their clientele is also much more upscale and clean vs an average local guy who doesn't give a fuck about his own health. All the wealthy guys that I know are very picky about whom they bareback, do STD checkups regularly and have an urologist on a speed dial.
What a stupid post. Street WGs are at the bottom of a puta hierarchy. Bottom feeders, the most desperate putas out there, who will do anything for money or extra tip. Most of them are on drugs or have other health issues. Doing multiple guys every freaking day, oftentimes without a condom, increases the odds of STD significantly. Cheap rates make SW girls fuck more guys per day to make ends meet vs a Seeking girl who might only have one, or very few, sugar daddies, or who would fuck gringos part time, because of other commitments, like a regular job, college, family, etc. High end girls tend to charge more, fuck less, and have the means to take care of their health, and their clientele is also much more upscale and clean vs an average local guy who doesn't give a fuck about his own health. All the wealthy guys that I know are very picky about whom they bareback, do STD checkups regularly and have an urologist on a speed dial.Wealthy guys must be fucking weird.
I've spent a lot of time with a lot of guys. Not once has one of them mentioned how frequently they get tested for STDs, their criteria for barebacking girls or anything to do with their urologist. And who's using a speed dial these days? Or needs a urologist so often they would put him on one?
If those guys are having urinary tract infections so often they call their urologist more often than they call their children, it seems like the highest risk girls are the ones they're fucking.
What a stupid post. Street WGs are at the bottom of a puta hierarchy. Bottom feeders, the most desperate putas out there, ... vs a Seeking girl who might only have one, or very few, e a regular job, college, family, etc. High end girls tend to charge more, fuck less, and have the means to take care of their health, and their clientele is also much more upscale and clean vs an average local guy who doesn't give a fuck about his own health..Anthony, meet MB. U2 have lots in common.
Anthony2023
03-08-23, 00:47
Not sure which part of town you stay in when your here, but name me the week when there was not a mugging or robbery in Poblado or Laureles?
Also name me the paedophile that was targetted to commit a crime against.Don't act stupid. You know exactly what I mean.
Anthony2023
03-08-23, 01:21
Anthony, meet MB. U2 have lots in common.There are others who have lots in common, they just don't comment because they don't want to be targeted by all the haters and keyboard warriors in this forum.
Like mb, I don't care what others think.
This particular forum is full of haters, what are you going to do LOL, haters are going to hate.
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