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Anthony2023
03-08-23, 01:30
What a stupid post. Street WGs are at the bottom of a puta hierarchyAgreed, it was such a stupid post I didn't even bother replying back to that LOL. But yeah a lot of these dudes are lost, it's a waste of time trying to explain anything to them.

Anthony2023
03-08-23, 01:38
My first time in Medellin I asked a taxi to give me a tour of el centro red light area at night. It's a dump. I don't care if you speak Spanish or look Latino. I'm not broke or desperate enough to party and walk around there. If you're living on 1 k social security a month, then maybe. Other than that, no way.Haha, taxi driver was probably like do you want us to get robbed? LOL.

It speaks volumes about the type of a person they have to be to go there.

BlueChange
03-08-23, 02:49
All these fucking paisa chicks saying how Sushi is their favorite food, and then you take them and they don't even know how to fucking use chopsticks!

Just be honest *****, you only pick it cause it's the most expensive (for you) thing you know.

Fucking amatuer, ahh fuck.

JjBee62
03-08-23, 04:27
Haha, taxi driver was probably like do you want us to get robbed? LOL.

It speaks volumes about the type of a person they have to be to go there.It speaks much more when a person makes judgements about things they know nothing about.

There was a guy who used to hit me up to go to El Centro casas and strip clubs. He was about 40, married, ex-pat living in one of the best parts of Poblado. Bought a 3 level penthouse, around 6,000 sq. Ft. Nice wife, who let him go scratch his itch every now and then. Lost touch with him when they sold the place and moved on. A mutual friend told me it went for $5 million USD.

Another guy, also ex-pat, in his 50's, living in Laureles, liked to visit the El Centro strip clubs. Normally hung out in Poblado, cultured, sophisticated, not hurting for money. Not some low life, or scum, or pedophile.

All types of persons go there, for all types of reasons. Until you get to know El Centro (whether or not you do any mongering there), you've never really been to Medellin. You're just a lost gringo pretending to visit Colombia while hiding in Poblado.

Mr Enternational
03-08-23, 06:29
All these fucking paisa chicks saying how Sushi is their favorite food, and then you take them and they don't even know how to fucking use chopsticks!LOL. Why do chopsticks need to be used? Why can"t they use a spoon, fork, or those gloves they eat chicken and barbecue with?

Gabacho
03-08-23, 07:04
What a stupid post. Street WGs are at the bottom of a puta hierarchy. Bottom feeders, the most desperate putas out there, who will do anything for money or extra tip. Most of them are on drugs or have other health issues. Doing multiple guys every freaking day, oftentimes without a condom, increases the odds of STD significantly. Cheap rates make SW girls fuck more guys per day to make ends meet vs a Seeking girl who might only have one, or very few, sugar daddies, or who would fuck gringos part time, because of other commitments, like a regular job, college, family, etc. High end girls tend to charge more, fuck less, and have the means to take care of their health, and their clientele is also much more upscale and clean vs an average local guy who doesn't give a fuck about his own health. All the wealthy guys that I know are very picky about whom they bareback, do STD checkups regularly and have an urologist on a speed dial.Your post is the one that is stupid. It doesn't matter I'd it's a high end seeking girl or if it's a street girl, they are both fucking for money. Like I said high paying gringos have more money to offer and more likely to pay for BBFS than an average local fucking a street girl for 30 k - 40 k. Even if they see more clients they are less likely to bareback vs a seeking girl. But keep living in your fantasy world thinking you are safer because you are paying more.

Gabacho
03-08-23, 07:08
Wealthy guys must be fucking weird.

I've spent a lot of time with a lot of guys. Not once has one of them mentioned how frequently they get tested for STDs, their criteria for barebacking girls or anything to do with their urologist. And who's using a speed dial these days? Or needs a urologist so often they would put him on one?

If those guys are having urinary tract infections so often they call their urologist more often than they call their children, it seems like the highest risk girls are the ones they're fucking.Exactly, I read all the time about dudes posting on here they always get BBFS from seeking or facebook girls. It carries the same risk weather it be a SA girl, FB girl, or a street girl. Anthony and MB are fucking delusional idiots.

Villainy
03-08-23, 14:05
All these fucking paisa chicks saying how Sushi is their favorite food, and then you take them and they don't even know how to fucking use chopsticks!

Just be honest *****, you only pick it cause it's the most expensive (for you) thing you know.

The more it costs the better it is. Where have I heard that kind of thinking before? . Oh I know! From some of the members on this board.

JustTK
03-08-23, 14:32
All these fucking paisa chicks saying how Sushi is their favorite food, and then you take them and they don't even know how to fucking use chopsticks!
There is an expression from Thailand. You can take the girl out of Pattaya, but you can't take Pattaya out of the girl.

JustTK
03-08-23, 14:32
Don't act stupid. You know exactly what I mean.Don't worry Anthony, yes I do know exactly what you meant unfortunately - > you were talking shlt again.

JustTK
03-08-23, 14:34
There are others who have lots in common..Yes they do, but perhaps not as striking as what u2 have in common. You seem to be the 2 most self-opinionated yet conversely ignorant contributors currently here.

Nounce
03-08-23, 15:07
All these fucking paisa chicks saying how Sushi is their favorite food, and then you take them and they don't even know how to fucking use chopsticks!

Just be honest *****, you only pick it cause it's the most expensive (for you) thing you know.

Fucking amatuer, ahh fuck.I think not knowing how to use chopsticks is understandable. I don't use it sometimes. The weirder thing for me is they like sushi but some don't eat raw meat.

Gabacho
03-08-23, 15:11
Yes they do, but perhaps not as striking as what u2 have in common. You seem to be the 2 most self-opinionated yet conversely ignorant contributors currently here.The 2 most arrogant contributors as well.

JjBee62
03-08-23, 15:27
I think not knowing how to use chopsticks is understandable. I don't use it sometimes. The weirder thing for me is they like sushi but they don't eat raw meat.I've seen that a few times in the US. People who say they love sushi, but won't try anything with raw fish.

I've watched a few girls try to use chopsticks in Medellin. They had a lot of trouble, but had some fun with it. My girlfriend is slowly learning. Introduced her to a big spread of sushi and sashimi. To her credit she tried everything. She said she liked the taste, but the texture was weird.

Nounce
03-08-23, 15:36
Agreed, it was such a stupid post I didn't even bother replying back to that LOL. But yeah a lot of these dudes are lost, it's a waste of time trying to explain anything to them.I will explain why people think you say idiotic and stupid things. You like things handed to you without your own effort. You asked the questions that have obvious answer or ask them in the wrong place. This post is one of the better one among the other.


Tell me more about these termas, I'm thinking about a Brazil trip in the near future. I.

When I see the word terma I think a club, kind of dark inside, or like a sauna with plenty of thick big butt Brazilians who love anal. Is that accurate or I'm I way off?You talk about things you don't know and you are very proud of it. El Centro is a good example. I don't put TJB in your category because he clearly stated a context which is meaningful.

You are not in the same league as MB1. He only aligns with you because he has the same opinion on one topic with you. I would be surprised that he think highly of you. You are being talked like a kid, do you see that?

You like to do these preemptive strikes, mostly telling people their feeling are hurt before they even feel it. LOL. These guys are battle tested. Unlike you, it's in their comfort zone and you can't see that?

Most pedophiles I have heard of are actually in your camp. I know about them because I dated their chicks or their expired chicks. I wrote about it occasionally. I don't write them that much because some detail could be easily identified simply because they are wealthy and are doing things not many could do. I know you have another purpose. You are calling older members dating adult younger chicks in el centro pedophiles. That shows you true color when you were insinuating about this topic before.

JustTK
03-08-23, 16:33
You are being talked like a kid, do you see that?

You are calling older members dating adult younger chicks in el centro pedophiles. I doubt he could even (correctly) define what paedophile means. He seems confused with what one is and with others that like young women.

BlueChange
03-08-23, 18:30
I think not knowing how to use chopsticks is understandable. I don't use it sometimes. The weirder thing for me is they like sushi but some don't eat raw meat.Yeah they just eat a deep fried whatever the fuck roll and drown it in teykaki sayce.

MiamiBoy1
03-08-23, 21:12
Your post is the one that is stupid. It doesn't matter I'd it's a high end seeking girl or if it's a street girl, they are both fucking for money. Like I said high paying gringos have more money to offer and more likely to pay for BBFS than an average local fucking a street girl for 30 k - 40 k. Even if they see more clients they are less likely to bareback vs a seeking girl. But keep living in your fantasy world thinking you are safer because you are paying more.The difference is that a street girl would do it for a few extra bucks because she is desperate and doesn't care, while a seeking girl would want to see your STD test results, or would want to build more trust, become your regular or exclusive, before going raw. Normally seeking girls do not upcharge for extras, they are all inclusive. You must be an idiot if you bareback street girls, good luck with that. Hope your dick falls off before you know it.

MiamiBoy1
03-08-23, 21:29
I've spent a lot of time with a lot of guys. You better spend a lot of time with a lot of women, maybe you'll learn something about them.

JjBee62
03-08-23, 21:47
You better spend a lot of time with a lot of women, maybe you'll learn something about them.Apparently, I already know something, at least enough that I don't need to have a Urologist on speed dial.

Mr Enternational
03-09-23, 05:19
The difference is that a street girl would do it for a few extra bucks because she is desperate and doesn't care, while a seeking girl would want to see your STD test results, LOL. Do they also want to see my covid card or all those covid test results I had to make myself when they were required to travel? No. Those hoes only want to see the money. The only reports I can remember of some guy showing a chick test results, it was his idea, not hers. The majority of guys report going with the flow and they are raw dogging those sa and fb chicks without a second thought.

JustTK
03-09-23, 06:13
Why do chopsticks need to be used? Why can"t they use a spoon, forkCan tell you have lived in Asia. .

JustTK
03-09-23, 06:19
a seeking girl would want to see your STD test results, or would want to build more trust, become your regular or exclusive, before going raw.Even if we assume your correct here, don't you see that a Seeking girl has likely countless guys that she is building trust with all the time, so she can go out on dates every night and make big bucks? Even if you visit her for 1 week every year, she needs ro have 50+ raw guys to keep busy.

MiamiBoy1
03-09-23, 08:17
Even if we assume your correct here, don't you see that a Seeking girl has likely countless guys that she is building trust with all the time, so she can go out on dates every night and make big bucks? Even if you visit her for 1 week every year, she needs ro have 50+ raw guys to keep busy.Well it is on you, as a monger, to determine if she is a hardcore puta or a semi-pro who does this part-time with very few guys or a non-pro who is new to this and just wanted to give it a try. Seeking has all kinds of girls, and some of them are pros. Learn how to weed them out and you will be seeing girls with much lower milage. Some girls are simply not interested in seeing someone who is in town for a few days, they focus on wealthy local, expats or guys who travel down there multiple times a year for extended periods of time. Just because a girl is on Seeking doesn't automatically mean she is not a pro / high milage girl, you have to do your homework to find the right ones.

Anthony2023
03-09-23, 09:39
It speaks much more when a person makes judgements. Until you get to know El Centro (whether or not you do any mongering there), you've never really been to Medellin. You're just a lost gringo pretending to visit Colombia while hiding in Poblado.See Mon. Jbee, let's not pretend like we don't know the kind of mongers el centro attracts and the type of activities they can find there. Nobody has to physically go there to know what's really happening there.

But anyways, how was your experience in guatape? Did you reach the top of the rock? I heard Elvis fat ass ran out of breath trying to scale that thing.

Also how is the whole bubble sky glamping thing? I'm going to try it out next month instead of just "hiding" in poblado.

Nounce
03-09-23, 14:50
Well it is on you, as a monger, to determine if she is a hardcore puta or a semi-pro who does this part-time with very few guys or a non-pro who is new to this and just wanted to give it a try. Seeking has all kinds of girls, and some of them are pros. Learn how to weed them out and you will be seeing girls with much lower milage. .... Just because a girl is on Seeking doesn't automatically mean she is not a pro / high milage girl, you have to do your homework to find the right ones.The same thing can be said about El Centro so why the argument? If you read what LIH69 said, he looked for semi-pro.

If it's like you said, all girls in centro are ugly, how can they be high mileage? Usually the higher mileage ones are the hot ones unless they are taken out of the market like Elvis did.

Gabacho
03-09-23, 14:59
The difference is that a street girl would do it for a few extra bucks because she is desperate and doesn't care, while a seeking girl would want to see your STD test results, or would want to build more trust, become your regular or exclusive, before going raw. Normally seeking girls do not upcharge for extras, they are all inclusive. You must be an idiot if you bareback street girls, good luck with that. Hope your dick falls off before you know it.Not sure why what I choose to do concerns you, but if you must know, my dick hasn't fallen off yet and I keep it clean with Azythromycin and Valacyclovir.

Mr Enternational
03-09-23, 15:11
If it's like you said, all girls in centro are ugly, how can they be high mileage? Usually the higher mileage ones are the hot ones unless they are taken out of the market like Elvis did.Because they assume a prettier chick is going to charge more and do less people, but an ugly chick is going to have to charge less and find more customers. The reality is that you only know what goes down when it is your turn. You do not know where she came from before she came to you or where she is going after you leaves you. They assume the girl wants to stop and go home after getting 200,000 from 1 customer.

Huacho
03-09-23, 15:31
unless they are taken out of the market like Elvis thinks he did.Fixed that for you!

JustTK
03-09-23, 16:48
to determine if she is a hardcore puta or a semi-pro who does this part-time .... Learn how to weed them out and you will be seeing girls with much lower milage.Weed them out? Those are the ones that I want to choose! Why would I want to choose a low-mileage girl? Makes no sense to me.

JustTK
03-09-23, 16:50
Fixed that for you!Hehe. Very cruel.

Gabacho
03-09-23, 18:11
Weed them out? Those are the ones that I want to choose! Why would I want to choose a low-mileage girl? Makes no sense to me.Exactly, those are the ones that give bad service. I like the ones that know what they are doing and do it well. Obviously MB doesn't know much about what he is talking about; he over pays for inexperienced chicas and bad service and gets on here to talk shit about us centro street rats who actually know what we are doing and know what we should be paying.

Just the other day I saw 2 cute vennies near hotel calle real and I asked if they were working and they responded "solo trabajamos en el poblado why cobramos cien dolares" I laughed and walked off but I couldn't help but think that idiots like Anthony, MB1, and the other poblado boys are the ones causing these girls to think that they can charge obscene amounts of money.

JjBee62
03-09-23, 19:31
See Mon. Jbee, let's not pretend like we don't know the kind of mongers el centro attracts and the type of activities they can find there. Nobody has to physically go there to know what's really happening there.But "we" don't know, because only 1 of us has been there and seen what kind of mongers go there. Only 1 of us has seen what kind of girls can be found there. The other half of "we" knows that the same types of activities go on all over Medellin.

El Centro is the heart of Medellin. It's the original city center. Poblado is just the newest suburb. The least one could do is go to Laureles, the original suburb.

Until you physically go there enough times to get over your fear, you'll never know what's happening there.


But anyways, how was your experience in guatape? Did you reach the top of the rock? I heard Elvis fat ass ran out of breath trying to scale that thing.I didn't climb El Penol. My experience there was good until the storm rolled in while we were in the middle of the lake. Hail is no fun, especially when you're doing 25 knots across a lake and there's nothing to block it. After we got back to shore nobody felt like climbing a metal staircase in a thunderstorm.


Also how is the whole bubble sky glamping thing? I'm going to try it out next month instead of just "hiding" in poblado.I've some friends who did glamping around Guatape, although I don't know which place they used. Try CerroTusaSprings, you can find them on Instagram. It's not at Guatape, but a nice area. You'll probably want to rent a car for the trip, or at least a moto.

Huacho
03-09-23, 20:13
Not sure why what I choose to do concerns you, but if you must know, my dick hasn't fallen off yet and I keep it clean with Azythromycin and Valacyclovir.Right, because routine use of powerful antibiotics is such a good idea.

JjBee62
03-09-23, 20:14
The difference is that a street girl would do it for a few extra bucks because she is desperate and doesn't care, while a seeking girl would want to see your STD test results, or would want to build more trust, become your regular or exclusive, before going raw. Normally seeking girls do not upcharge for extras, they are all inclusive. You must be an idiot if you bareback street girls, good luck with that. Hope your dick falls off before you know it.The difference is, every time you start making shit up, you end up looking foolish. Granted, you start out looking foolish, so it's just a subtle change.

A street girl might go bareback for a few bucks, but 95% of her customers are poor Colombians who don't have a few extra bucks to spend. Plus, many have a wife or girlfriend back home and bringing home a STD tends to upset the domestic tranquility.

A Seeking girl wants to see your STD test results? Yeah. Right. Only time that's going to happen is with a hardcore pro, who barebacks everyone for a fee (because the guys on Seeking have the money to spend).

Or she wants to build more trust, or become your regular before barebacking? Trust? Becoming a regular? Same story. Chances are she has more than 1 regular, and they're all fucking other girls. That's not counting the Colombian gang bangers they're buying drugs for with your money. Your risk of exposure is roughly the same as the guy being picky with street girls. And apparently he's much better at picking girls, because he doesn't need to have a Urologist on speed dial.

Then there's the other issue. Maybe your Urologist can explain how the human reproduction system works. Chances are neither the street girl nor the Seeking girl are on birth control. Now the street girl, if she gets pregnant, she's stuck. Another kid is something to worry about, something she can't afford. She has incentive to not get knocked up by a random customer.

But little miss innocent from Seeking, she's a different story. She's got a name, a phone number and an address where her trusted regular stayed. A surprise kid is just icing on the cake. It might get her a green card, a husband to fleece and then a whole new life. At the very least, it's an almost guaranteed source of income, for years to come.

Personally, I don't bareback hookers. Did it twice. The first time the girl insisted (after the fact) that I pay for the Plan be. The second time ended with me on antibiotics. Neither was a street girl, neither charged extra for bareback, or even discussed it. Neither asked for recent STD tests, trust or for me to become a regular.

From my own experience, bareback has been a free option with about half of the Facebook girls and maybe 20% will go straight to bareback without saying anything, unless I stop them and pull out the condom. It's never been offered in the El Centro casas or strip clubs and the goto move for the girls has always been to reach for the condom.

Of course it's really not fair to base things on experience, instead of just making shit up.

By the way, why exactly do you meet wealthy guys to talk about their penises?

MiamiBoy1
03-09-23, 20:15
The same thing can be said about El Centro so why the argument? If you read what LIH69 said, he looked for semi-pro.

If it's like you said, all girls in centro are ugly, how can they be high mileage? Usually the higher mileage ones are the hot ones unless they are taken out of the market like Elvis did.A girl who is working the streets is a pro by default or, if she is new to this, will become a pro in no time. Semi pros. Those who have a regular job or study, would be embarrassed / scared to work the streets. I already said this, SW girls are bottom feeders. Heck, some of them don't even have cell phones or computers to work Seeking, Tinder, etc or are just too dumb to do so.

Ugly girls are cheap. Cheap girls = high mileage, because an average local client is broke as fuck. Cheap rates make them fuck more guys to make ends meet. Nounce, do you even read my posts? Why am I repeating myself?

A high end girl in Dubai who charges a few thousand $ per date is a low mileage girl. She doesn't need to fuck 10 guys per day. Simple as that. Yes, there are rich guys in Dubai, but it's not like there is a line of clients waiting to fuck her and willing to pay her rate.

JjBee62
03-09-23, 20:17
Fixed that for you!Yeah, but at her age, she wasn't too far from being tossed into the dumpster behind the market.

MiamiBoy1
03-09-23, 20:22
Weed them out? Those are the ones that I want to choose! Why would I want to choose a low-mileage girl? Makes no sense to me.Don't forget to use a condom if you don't want your dick to fall off. BTW, when you kiss or god forbid, DATY a high mileage SW, do you taste someone else's cum in her mouth or pussy? If you do, that probably was Gabacho's or JJbee's.

MiamiBoy1
03-09-23, 20:37
Because they assume a prettier chick is going to charge more and do less people, but an ugly chick is going to have to charge less and find more customers. The reality is that you only know what goes down when it is your turn. You do not know where she came from before she came to you or where she is going after you leaves you. They assume the girl wants to stop and go home after getting 200,000 from 1 customer.Most of the times, I know exactly where my chicks are coming from and where they go after. I know where they live, where they work, and what they do outside of work, at least when I'm in town.

If I occasionally happen to fuck a pro, I know what's up, I know my risks and I don't care what she does after I kick her out or what she did prior to coming over to my place, I'm not a newbie and definitely not naive.

LoveItHere69
03-09-23, 21:28
Nounce clean your box out.

JjBee62
03-10-23, 01:06
Don't forget to use a condom if you don't want your dick to fall off. BTW, when you kiss or god forbid, DATY a high mileage SW, do you taste someone else's cum in her mouth or pussy? If you do, that probably was Gabacho's or JJbee's.First you get together with wealthy guys to discuss their penises and now you're fantasizing about the taste of my semen? Who is it who needs to spend time around women?

I'm wondering if your stupidity is by choice, or if it's a congenital defect.

Gabacho has stated that he prefers El Centro street girls. I've stated repeatedly that I've never done an El Centro street girl and it's highly unlikely I ever will, especially with the current girlfriend situation. How stupid do you have to be to imagine we're somehow fucking the same girls?

And how strong is that submissive, homosexual urge, if whenever someone belittles you, you immediately start imagining the taste of their cum?

Anthony2023
03-10-23, 01:30
The least one could do is go to Laureles, the original suburb.

Until you physically go there enough times to get over your fear, you'll never know what's happening there.

I didn't climb El Penol.

I've some friends who did glamping around Guatape, although I don't know which place they used. Try CerroTusaSprings, you can find them on Instagram. It's not at Guatape, but a nice area. You'll probably want to rent a car for the trip, or at least a moto.I walked alone thru the streets of Laureles on my last visit during the day and past midnight. Also saw Comuna 13. I don't fear going to dangerous places. I grew up in that environment. So don't think of me of some kind of pussy LOL. There's a difference between having fear and being stupid. Plus like I've mentioned before I doubt I will find my type in el centro so there's no reason to go there.

The one me and my lady friend are staying at is called bubble sky glamping it's not far from la piedra. And here I thought jjbe has done it all, that's why I thought I'd ask you.

Anthony2023
03-10-23, 03:00
Don't forget to use a condom if you don't want your dick to fall off. BTW, when you kiss or god forbid, DATY a high mileage SW, do you taste someone else's cum in her mouth or pussy? If you do, that probably was Gabacho's or JJbee's.I'm pretty sure some of these weird dudes would enjoy it, as much as they like to defend each other on here haha.

Anthony2023
03-10-23, 03:16
Exactly, those are the ones that give bad service. I like the ones that know what they are doing and do it well. Obviously MB doesn't know much about what he is talking about; he over pays for inexperienced chicas and bad service and gets on here to talk shit about us centro street rats who actually know what we are doing and know what we should be paying.

Just the other day I saw 2 cute vennies near hotel calle real and I asked if they were working and they responded "solo trabajamos en el poblado why cobramos cien dolares" I laughed and walked off but I couldn't help but think that idiots like Anthony, MB1, and the other poblado boys are the ones causing these girls to think that they can charge obscene amounts of money.The fact that you laugh at them when they tell you their price says everything I need to know about guys like you.

All you have to do is say no thanks and walk away, but instead you laugh, shows how pathetic you are. You ever heard of "her body, her rules?" Yeah you don't get to decide that for her. If $100 is an obscene amount of money to you regardless of what the average Colombian salary is or how often you monger then perhaps maybe you should concentrate more on your finances. Next time you're out and you hear the song that goes "if you ain't got no money take your broke ass home" consider doing so haha.

JustTK
03-10-23, 07:40
Most of the times, I know exactly where my chicks are coming from and where they go after. I know where they live, where they work, and what they do outside of work, at least when I'm in town.
I know my risks and I don't care what she does after I kick her out or what she did prior to coming over to my place, I'm not a newbie and definitely not naive.Sounds like you don't want a puta. So WTF are you paying for? Sounds like the biggest loser position there is.

JustTK
03-10-23, 07:43
when you kiss or god forbid, DATY a high mileage SW, do you taste someone else's cum in her mouth or pussy? If you do, that probably was Gabacho's or JJbee's.I thought you are a young guy? But you wrote almost the same thing 6 months ago. Maybe your memory is fading. Mine is fine from all the vitamins I get from drinking other customer's sperm.

MiamiBoy1
03-10-23, 10:36
Exactly, those are the ones that give bad service. I like the ones that know what they are doing and do it well. Obviously MB doesn't know much about what he is talking about; he over pays for inexperienced chicas and bad service and gets on here to talk shit about us centro street rats who actually know what we are doing and know what we should be paying.

Just the other day I saw 2 cute vennies near hotel calle real and I asked if they were working and they responded "solo trabajamos en el poblado why cobramos cien dolares" I laughed and walked off but I couldn't help but think that idiots like Anthony, MB1, and the other poblado boys are the ones causing these girls to think that they can charge obscene amounts of money.Who said that I overpay? You know nothing about how much I spend and what kind of service I get. You are the one making shit up. I pay according to the going rates for a particular venue I am at, and according to my budget. If I happened to be in El Centro and wanted to fuck a street hoe, why would I pay 200 mil if the going rate is 50 mil tops? And guess what, when I go to La Isla, I pay La Isla rates. When I pull a Facebook girl, I pay Facebook rates. Simple as that, but probably too complicated for you, idiot, to understand. Also, you know nothing about the quality of girls I'm fucking, and if you knew, you would shut the fuck up. You are just another low life cheap fuck, who doesn't know any better.

MiamiBoy1
03-10-23, 10:50
But "we" don't know, because only 1 of us has been there and seen what kind of mongers go there. Only 1 of us has seen what kind of girls can be found there. The other half of "we" knows that the same types of activities go on all over Medellin.

El Centro is the heart of Medellin. It's the original city center. Poblado is just the newest suburb. The least one could do is go to Laureles, the original suburb.

Until you physically go there enough times to get over your fear, you'll never know what's happening there.

I didn't climb El Penol. My experience there was good until the storm rolled in while we were in the middle of the lake. Hail is no fun, especially when you're doing 25 knots across a lake and there's nothing to block it. After we got back to shore nobody felt like climbing a metal staircase in a thunderstorm.

I've some friends who did glamping around Guatape, although I don't know which place they used. Try CerroTusaSprings, you can find them on Instagram. It's not at Guatape, but a nice area. You'll probably want to rent a car for the trip, or at least a moto.What's the allure of El Centro besides cheap putas, drugs and booze? You sound like every single monger visiting Medellin needs to get acquainted with El Centro, spend some time there, fuck some cheap hoes, get robbed, drugged, and whatnot, to fully experience the city. Like it is a must do. Do you realize that some mongers prefer safety and comfort, and not set foot in El Centro? It is a filthy, disgusting, dangerous part of town that no sane person would want to visit frequently. If one wants to fuck as many putas as possible, for as little money as possible, and doesn't care about anything else, then El Centro is the place to be. Street rats love it. Other than that, it sucks.

Gabacho
03-10-23, 13:32
Who said that I overpay? You know nothing about how much I spend and what kind of service I get. You are the one making shit up. I pay according to the going rates for a particular venue I am at, and according to my budget. If I happened to be in El Centro and wanted to fuck a street hoe, why would I pay 200 mil if the going rate is 50 mil tops? And guess what, when I go to La Isla, I pay La Isla rates. When I pull a Facebook girl, I pay Facebook rates. Simple as that, but probably too complicated for you, idiot, to understand. Also, you know nothing about the quality of girls I'm fucking, and if you knew, you would shut the fuck up. You are just another low life cheap fuck, who doesn't know any better.You are the one who needs to shut the fuck up. You're just a fucking troll posting bullshit.

Villainy
03-10-23, 15:33
What's the allure of El Centro besides cheap putas, drugs and booze? You sound like every single monger visiting Medellin needs to get acquainted with El Centro, spend some time there, fuck some cheap hoes, get robbed, drugged, and whatnot, to fully experience the city. Like it is a must do. Do you realize that some mongers prefer safety and comfort, and not set foot in El Centro? It is a filthy, disgusting, dangerous part of town that no sane person would want to visit frequently. If one wants to fuck as many putas as possible, for as little money as possible, and doesn't care about anything else, then El Centro is the place to be. Street rats love it. Other than that, it sucks.You are about as uninformed and oblivious as you could possibly be. Do you know what "El Centro" means? It means the center and in most Latin American cities it means the cental commercial zone. There are stores there, medical office buildings, tech places, restaurants, museums and everything else you could possibly imagine.

But you only know about Botero plaza and the hookers that hang there and the casas that are generally in that area. You apparently have no idea that El Centro is many times larger and more diverse than just Botero Plaza.

Oh and just for your edification. I live in Medellin and I go to El Centro with some degree of frequency. Never to pick up girls, I have my own "friends with benefits", but for all the other things that are available in that part of the city.

Just a thought. You might enjoy your trips here more if you learned a little bit about the culture and history of the city and the country. You might try visiting various places of interest in the city and take a small break from being just another sex-tourist.

MiamiBoy1
03-10-23, 20:33
You are about as uninformed and oblivious as you could possibly be. Do you know what "El Centro" means? It means the center and in most Latin American cities it means the cental commercial zone. There are stores there, medical office buildings, tech places, restaurants, museums and everything else you could possibly imagine.

But you only know about Botero plaza and the hookers that hang there and the casas that are generally in that area. You apparently have no idea that El Centro is many times larger and more diverse than just Botero Plaza.

Oh and just for your edification. I live in Medellin and I go to El Centro with some degree of frequency. Never to pick up girls, I have my own "friends with benefits", but for all the other things that are available in that part of the city.

Just a thought. You might enjoy your trips here more if you learned a little bit about the culture and history of the city and the country. You might try visiting various places of interest in the city and take a small break from being just another sex-tourist.I know what central commercial zone is. So what? Other parts of town have stores, restaurants, offices, you name it (and much nicer ones, BTW) and provide safer and cleaner environment. I'm not questioning why locals work, live and play in El Centro, it is obvious. I am speaking from a gringo visitor perspective. A typical foreigner would not fit that aggressive environment, and doesn't need to, because there are other options. Don't tell me this BS about museums and stores, nobody gives a fuck about that. It takes literally one day to check out the main attractions in El Centro. Lets be real here, cheap hookers and drugs is what attracts guys like you and Gabacho, not the freaking museums and fruit stands.

MiamiBoy1
03-10-23, 20:44
You are the one who needs to shut the fuck up. You're just a fucking troll posting bullshit. Meet me at xito Aranjuez at 3 pm if your not a scared little *****!?I have no business to do in your shitty barrio, and I am not even in Colombia, dumbass.

JjBee62
03-10-23, 21:43
Who said that I overpay? You know nothing about how much I spend and what kind of service I get. You are the one making shit up. I pay according to the going rates for a particular venue I am at, and according to my budget. If I happened to be in El Centro and wanted to fuck a street hoe, why would I pay 200 mil if the going rate is 50 mil tops? And guess what, when I go to La Isla, I pay La Isla rates. When I pull a Facebook girl, I pay Facebook rates. Simple as that, but probably too complicated for you, idiot, to understand. Also, you know nothing about the quality of girls I'm fucking, and if you knew, you would shut the fuck up. You are just another low life cheap fuck, who doesn't know any better.That's confusing.

You pay the going rates for each venue and mention La Isla and Facebook. All good. Normal stuff.

Except:


Most of the times, I know exactly where my chicks are coming from and where they go after. I know where they live, where they work, and what they do outside of work, at least when I'm in town.

If I occasionally happen to fuck a pro, I know what's up, I know my risks and I don't care what she does after I kick her out or what she did prior to coming over to my place, I'm not a newbie and definitely not naive.Just yesterday it was "if I occasionally happen to fuck a pro", and today it's "La Isla" and "Facebook. ".

The first post makes it seem as if you have at least a few, if not several, informal girlfriends. You know where they live and work and know what each is doing each day and night. That seems a bit extreme to me. After all, I've got a formal girlfriend, and while I know where she lives, where her sister, mother, grandmother and 2 aunts live, as well as where she goes to school, I certainly don't try to track her every movement day and night. Except for the nights when she's in my bed, then I know exactly what she's doing.

But your follow-up post mentions just the normal venues many guys use, all pros, not particularly exceptional, as your main sources.

There's nothing wrong with La Isla and Facebook. I've used both and when I was pulling girls, most came from Facebook (meaning it's more likely you've tasted my cum than JustTK, I'll be sure to drink more pineapple juice for you). It's just pathetic how you constantly try to pass yourself off as getting only "elite" girls unobtainable to the teeming masses, but in reality you're swimming in the same pool as half the guys on ISG.

JjBee62
03-10-23, 22:41
What's the allure of El Centro besides cheap putas, drugs and booze? You sound like every single monger visiting Medellin needs to get acquainted with El Centro, spend some time there, fuck some cheap hoes, get robbed, drugged, and whatnot, to fully experience the city. Like it is a must do. Do you realize that some mongers prefer safety and comfort, and not set foot in El Centro? It is a filthy, disgusting, dangerous part of town that no sane person would want to visit frequently. If one wants to fuck as many putas as possible, for as little money as possible, and doesn't care about anything else, then El Centro is the place to be. Street rats love it. Other than that, it sucks.I don't do drugs, don't do cheap putas and rarely drink more than a few beers and seldom do I seek out the cheapest beers. On average, I probably spend more on my lodging than you as well as more on food, at least over the last 3 years. So there must be some allure outside of the "cheap" angle.

It's not something you could ever understand, if it was possible for you to overcome your fear.

What I'm saying is that until you know El Centro, until you're able to see beyond your twisted misconceptions and recognize the allure of El Centro, you'll be just another clueless gringo, pretending he's a big shot.

None of that requires drugs, sex with cheap hookers, or getting robbed. As far as "getting drugged" that isn't much of a risk, except in the places which you think are safe.

Then again, getting robbed is just as likely, all over the city, except outside of El Centro, the gringo victims are much more likely to get injured or killed.

It's not a must do, to get to know El Centro. It's just a matter of growth. There are guys who have been visiting Medellin for 15 years, twice a year, and they stay at the Mansion every time. By now they're on their second generation of the same girls, in the same rooms, doing the same thing. They're happy with that routine and that's fine.

There are guys who have been staying in El Centro for the past 15 years, same thing. They have no desire to do anything else. Other than the money they spend, there's no difference between the 2 groups. Neither group is interested in stepping outside of the little box where they feel comfortable.

Add in Laureles, Manila, Belen and Sabaneta. Or look stateside. Plenty of people take the same vacation every year, same beach, same hotel, doing all the same things. That's all fine. It's their money, their life, but it's just a comfortable rut.

If I have been taking a 2 week vacation to Panama City Beach for the past 10 years, would you say I know Florida? How can I know Florida without knowing Miami? Or Tampa? How can I know Miami if I've only been in 1 hotel in Miami Beach?

If the only reason you go to Medellin is because it's one of the few places, accessible to you, where you can afford to buy good pussy, there's no need to step outside of your perceived safe zone. But if that's the case, stay in your lane. Talk about the Airbnb in Laureles, or about the restaurants where you go. Talk about your trips to La Isla or the various Facebook girls. Stick with the things which are within your direct experience and stop trying to put down anyone who isn't doing the exact same thing as you.

Every guy here is doing what makes them happy, or trying to find what makes them happier. Where they're doing it, who they're doing it with, shouldn't matter to anyone else.

Balboa
03-11-23, 00:26
I know what central commercial zone is. So what? Other parts of town have stores, restaurants, offices, you name it (and much nicer ones, BTW) and provide safer and cleaner environment. I'm not questioning why locals work, live and play in El Centro, it is obvious. I am speaking from a gringo visitor perspective. A typical foreigner would not fit that aggressive environment, and doesn't need to, because there are other options. Don't tell me this BS about museums and stores, nobody gives a fuck about that. It takes literally one day to check out the main attractions in El Centro. Lets be real here, cheap hookers and drugs is what attracts guys like you and Gabacho, not the freaking museums and fruit stands.Why do you get so angry and nasty about it though?

You do your thing and others do theirs whether it be in Poblado, Bello, Botero or Itagui.

I actually enjoy all of the above and more.

Different days, different venues.

Enjoying life your way is what's important, regardless of what others may be doing.

Enjoy the weekend!

JustTK
03-11-23, 05:47
I am speaking from a gringo visitor perspective. A typical foreigner would not fit that aggressive environment, and doesn't need to, because there are other options. Don't tell me this BS about museums and stores, nobody gives a fuck about that. It takes literally one day to check out the main attractions in El Centro. Lets be real here, cheap hookers and drugs is what attracts guys like you and Gabacho, not the freaking museums and fruit stands.I get it. You like plastic barrios, protected by plastic walls, so you can meet your plastic women.

Mr Enternational
03-11-23, 06:12
I know what central commercial zone is. So what? Other parts of town have stores, restaurants, offices, you name it (and much nicer ones, BTW) and provide safer and cleaner environment. I'm not questioning why locals work, live and play in El Centro, it is obvious. I am speaking from a gringo visitor perspective. A typical foreigner would not fit that aggressive environment, and doesn't need to, because there are other options. Don't tell me this BS about museums and stores, nobody gives a fuck about that. It takes literally one day to check out the main attractions in El Centro. Lets be real here, cheap hookers and drugs is what attracts guys like you and Gabacho, not the freaking museums and fruit stands.LOL. Damn I finally agree with MB on something. The average vacationing foreigner or monger is not suited for the belly of the beast and I can not see them wanting to spend their vacation that way. I do not mind going into the forest and picking my berries for cheap in the wild. Some people would rather pay extra to be served the same berries by a waiter in a restaurant. Looking behind the curtain will probably turn them off from berries period.

Downtown is not for the faint of heart; neither is a slaughterhouse or sausage factory. To some people like me all that matters is the product. Others can not consume the product without it being in a certain setting and ambiance and without knowing how it is made.

Some people would rather sit in Poblado and pay 300,000 to a chick with the assumption she is coming unblemished straight from the candy factory and is a quasi virgin. Others have no delusion of what a hooker is and lose no sleep in paying a chick 30,000 with the knowledge she is going to the room with anyone else that passes by with 30,000.

Gabacho
03-11-23, 09:36
Lets be real here, cheap hookers and drugs is what attracts guys like you and Gabacho, not the freaking museums and fruit stands.You need to keep my fucking name out of your mouth bro! And for the record I don't do drugs, I don't even smoke weed anymore. I go to Centro for many reasons, cheap putas I'll admit is one of those reasons but not drugs.

I've been coming to Colombia since 2018 and living on and off in Medellin since 2021. I got my cheap apartment in my "shitty barrio" as you call it last summer and I love it here.

Centro for me, besides when I'm looking for sex, is like the heart of the city, bustling with people going on about their daily lives. Whether I'm just sitting down at Parque San Antonio drinking a coffee watching people walk by, whether I need to go to a ferreteria to pick up a shower head or a saw to cut wood for shelving in my apartment, it can all be done in Centro. Not to mention my favorite fried chicken place at the bottom of the coultejer tower or the taco place on la playa. I also go shopping there for kitchen ware at this store called hogar why decor; they have great deals there. So no thr allure of Centro is not just cheap putas or drugs.

Maybe you should know what your talking about before you open you mouth Boy. Also I've been in many other "centros" all over Colombia, Bogota, Cucuta, Cali, Santa Marta, Bucaramanga, Melgar, Villavicencio, so I think I know alot more about "el centro" than you ever will.

MiamiBoy1
03-11-23, 09:41
That's confusing.

You pay the going rates for each venue and mention La Isla and Facebook. All good. Normal stuff.

Except:

Just yesterday it was "if I occasionally happen to fuck a pro", and today it's "La Isla" and "Facebook. ".

The first post makes it seem as if you have at least a few, if not several, informal girlfriends. You know where they live and work and know what each is doing each day and night. That seems a bit extreme to me. After all, I've got a formal girlfriend, and while I know where she lives, where her sister, mother, grandmother and 2 aunts live, as well as where she goes to school, I certainly don't try to track her every movement day and night. Except for the nights when she's in my bed, then I know exactly what she's doing.

But your follow-up post mentions just the normal venues many guys use, all pros, not particularly exceptional, as your main sources.

There's nothing wrong with La Isla and Facebook. I've used both and when I was pulling girls, most came from Facebook (meaning it's more likely you've tasted my cum than JustTK, I'll be sure to drink more pineapple juice for you). It's just pathetic how you constantly try to pass yourself off as getting only "elite" girls unobtainable to the teeming masses, but in reality you're swimming in the same pool as half the guys on ISG.Again, you are making wrong assumptions. The point I was trying to make is what I pay depends on the venue and my budget. I don't offer La Isla girls 50 mil because the going rate, which is actually fixed, is 350 mil or whatever it is right now. And I would never offer 350 mil to a SW girl in El Centro if I wanted to fuck one.

Yes, I have a few informal girlfriends, I would rather call them friends with benefits or sugar babies, but once in a while I can go to a strip club like La Isla if I have a friend in town who wants my company. Once in a while I can do a facebook girl, if she is referred to me by a fellow monger. Out of every 10 girls that I fuck, maybe only 1 (or 10%) comes from FB, strip clubs and casas combined. The other 90% are regulars, friends of regulars, Seeking, Tinder (before I got banned), IG. And speaking of fucking a pro, I have already said this, Seeking got plenty of pros on there too, and I can't weed them out 100% of the time, sometimes they fall through the cracks and I deal with them.

MiamiBoy1
03-11-23, 10:28
I don't do drugs, don't do cheap putas and rarely drink more than a few beers and seldom do I seek out the cheapest beers. On average, I probably spend more on my lodging than you as well as more on food, at least over the last 3 years. So there must be some allure outside of the "cheap" angle.

It's not something you could ever understand, if it was possible for you to overcome your fear.

What I'm saying is that until you know El Centro, until you're able to see beyond your twisted misconceptions and recognize the allure of El Centro, you'll be just another clueless gringo, pretending he's a big shot.

None of that requires drugs, sex with cheap hookers, or getting robbed. As far as "getting drugged" that isn't much of a risk, except in the places which you think are safe.

Then again, getting robbed is just as likely, all over the city, except outside of El Centro, the gringo victims are much more likely to get injured or killed.

It's not a must do, to get to know El Centro. It's just a matter of growth. There are guys who have been visiting Medellin for 15 years, twice a year, and they stay at the Mansion every time. By now they're on their second generation of the same girls, in the same rooms, doing the same thing. They're happy with that routine and that's fine.

There are guys who have been staying in El Centro for the past 15 years, same thing. They have no desire to do anything else. Other than the money they spend, there's no difference between the 2 groups. Neither group is interested in stepping outside of the little box where they feel comfortable.

Add in Laureles, Manila, Belen and Sabaneta. Or look stateside. Plenty of people take the same vacation every year, same beach, same hotel, doing all the same things. That's all fine. It's their money, their life, but it's just a comfortable rut.

If I have been taking a 2 week vacation to Panama City Beach for the past 10 years, would you say I know Florida? How can I know Florida without knowing Miami? Or Tampa? How can I know Miami if I've only been in 1 hotel in Miami Beach?

If the only reason you go to Medellin is because it's one of the few places, accessible to you, where you can afford to buy good pussy, there's no need to step outside of your perceived safe zone. But if that's the case, stay in your lane. Talk about the Airbnb in Laureles, or about the restaurants where you go. Talk about your trips to La Isla or the various Facebook girls. Stick with the things which are within your direct experience and stop trying to put down anyone who isn't doing the exact same thing as you.

Every guy here is doing what makes them happy, or trying to find what makes them happier. Where they're doing it, who they're doing it with, shouldn't matter to anyone else.First sane post of yours that I've read. But you still haven't answered my question about the allure of El Centro. You are saying the allure is not cheap hookers, drugs and booze, so what is it then?

You are saying you probably spend more money on lodging and food than I do. What does this has to do with El Centro? This means you lodging is definitely not in El Centro, and you definitely don't wine and dine there. And since you stated you don't do street girls, don't do drugs and barely drink, this only proves my point that there is no allure to it and you prefer to stay in your "plastic barrio protected by plastic walls".

MiamiBoy1
03-11-23, 10:38
Why do you get so angry and nasty about it though?

You do your thing and others do theirs whether it be in Poblado, Bello, Botero or Itagui.

I actually enjoy all of the above and more.

Different days, different venues.

Enjoying life your way is what's important, regardless of what others may be doing.

Enjoy the weekend!I get defensive because I have been attacked by a local gang of street rats, who accused me of being clueless, overpaying, being an idiot and whatnot. Heck, one retard even wanted to meet in person LOL.

Enjoy your weekend too!

Anthony2023
03-11-23, 12:34
If I have been taking a 2 week vacation to Panama City Beach for the past 10 years, would you say I know Florida? How can I know Florida without knowing Miami? Or Tampa? How can I know Miami if I've only been in 1 hotel in Miami Beach?

But if that's the case, stay in your lane. Talk about the Airbnb in Laureles, or about the restaurants where you go. Talk about your trips to La Isla or the various Facebook girls. Stick with the things which are within your direct experience and stop trying to put down anyone who isn't doing the exact same thing as you.

Every guy here is doing what makes them happy, or trying to find what makes them happier. Where they're doing it, who they're doing it with, shouldn't matter to anyone else.Hey jjbe there's this Asian guy on YouTube goes by the name of 420 jon69, he thinks we are idiots for going all the way to Colombia instead of just going to Tijuana.

For the longest time he lived in Asia and people kept telling him to visit Tijuana and he kept blowing it off because he believed nothing would beat where he was currently at until he finally went and now he lives in Tijuana and loves it.

But what's funny is that he says Colombia isn't worth checking out because he knows it doesn't compare to Tijuana LOL.

I just think that's hilarious. Maybe he reads this. I would be surprised if he's not on ISG.

Huacho
03-11-23, 15:14
I get defensive because I have been attacked by a local gang of street rats, who accused me of being clueless, overpaying, being an idiot and whatnot. It's really not necessary to accuse you of anything. It's only necessary to read your posts, which basically define clueless.

JjBee62
03-11-23, 18:50
First sane post of yours that I've read. But you still haven't answered my question about the allure of El Centro. You are saying the allure is not cheap hookers, drugs and booze, so what is it then?

You are saying you probably spend more money on lodging and food than I do. What does this has to do with El Centro? This means you lodging is definitely not in El Centro, and you definitely don't wine and dine there. And since you stated you don't do street girls, don't do drugs and barely drink, this only proves my point that there is no allure to it and you prefer to stay in your "plastic barrio protected by plastic walls".If I still go there, without the attraction of the things you say are the only reasons to go, it proves there is an allure. Do you understand the basic principle of logic there?

The allure? The people, the energy, the gritty reality of life in Medellin, or is it the beauty? The history? The sense of being grounded, connected to the city?

JustTK
03-11-23, 23:37
the allure of El Centro. You are saying the allure is not cheap hookers, drugs and booze, so what is it then?

.Those are undoubtedly some of the attractions, but as I wrote previously, for me the attraction is that El Centro is the centre of diversity in MDE. You can and will meet people from all walks of life. Students, professors, business people, office staff, street vendors, street hookers, bohemains, homeless, drug addicts, disabled folks, artists, charity workers, musicians, young, old, families, lovers, gays, straights, trans, black, white, brown, some even purple. Its a huge melting pot of experiences. Folks are very firndly and usually intrigued when they meet foreigners. Its also where new arrivals to tend to live, whether they are from Vnzla, other south american countries, or other parts of Colombia. So it is also intersting bcos it always has new input. There are also theatres, museums, an immense number of malls where you can buy phones, clothes, shoes, electrics, at a fraction of the price of the suburbs.

Its reality, not plastic. BUt if ur the type of person that say, goes on holiday to LA and stays the entire time in Santa Monica ... well then, enjoy Poblado.

Paulie97
03-12-23, 01:45
If you have common sense (or call it street smarts) you improve your chances exponentially.The two aren't the same, not even close. If someone thinks they are it pretty much proves they don't have street smarts. Research it.

Keep in mind this is the same guy that thinks kidnappers are sure to let you go if your bank account shows empty at the ATM receipt. That's without considering that the criminals may be well aware that many Americans have replenish accounts. This also ignores the fact that many kidnappers may want to make a witness disappear. Thus many professionals suggest that at the beginning of such a situation it's best that you fight for your life as it likely will be your last chance to.

And it's the same guy that assumes that when when a girl posts pics of themselves at nice hotels that they've found "wealthy clients. " That's even though in the Colombian or Mexican economies any American working stiff can afford to take girls to such places. Thus we have a guy without "street smarts" that probably should have his passport seized for his own safety.

JjBee62
03-12-23, 02:04
Hey jjbe there's this Asian guy on YouTube goes by the name of 420 jon69, he thinks we are idiots for going all the way to Colombia instead of just going to Tijuana.

For the longest time he lived in Asia and people kept telling him to visit Tijuana and he kept blowing it off because he believed nothing would beat where he was currently at until he finally went and now he lives in Tijuana and loves it.

But what's funny is that he says Colombia isn't worth checking out because he knows it doesn't compare to Tijuana LOL.

I just think that's hilarious. Maybe he reads this. I would be surprised if he's not on ISG.Sounds like he's a slow learner.

There is no "better" or "best" when it comes to cities or parts of cities, although there are bad and worse. It's all a matter of what appeals to each person.

If I'm going to write an opinion about something, then I'm going to experience it first, really experience it, and not just take a quick look around and pass judgment. I get annoyed at "experts" who've never experienced the things they are putting down. I also get annoyed at people who put others down over things which don't involve them and are none of their business.

Add to my "things that annoy me" list, people who insist their way is best for everyone. Everyone has to find their own way. I've spent a lot of time looking at and trying just about every way. I've found what works for me, depending on my current mood. If someone asks for advice, I ask questions. There's no sense in steering them towards something which doesn't appeal to them.

Anthony2023
03-12-23, 12:00
Sounds like he's a slow learner.

There is no "better" or "best" when it comes to cities or parts of cities, although there are bad and worse. It's all a matter of what appeals to each person.

If I'm going to write an opinion about something, then I'm going to experience it first, really experience it, and not just take a quick look around and pass judgment. I get annoyed at "experts" who've never experienced the things they are putting down. I also get annoyed at people who put others down over things which don't involve them and are none of their business.

Add to my "things that annoy me" list, people who insist their way is best for everyone. Everyone has to find their own way. I've spent a lot of time looking at and trying just about every way. I've found what works for me, depending on my current mood. If someone asks for advice, I ask questions. There's no sense in steering them towards something which doesn't appeal to them.Agreed. Well than the same can be said for those who put down others who don't mind paying higher prices. They get so worked up about it. Like you said let them be. Would be better if people would instead just give each other advice instead of just going straight to attacking each other. I guess people get bored sometimes. It's fine, I welcome anyone who wants the smoke too LOL. "Smoke" meaning drama, beef, fighting for you old heads.

SdesChain19
03-12-23, 13:55
Anyone feel the earthquake in Medellin?

MiamiBoy1
03-12-23, 15:32
You need to keep my fucking name out of your mouth bro! And for the record I don't do drugs, I don't even smoke weed anymore. I go to Centro for many reasons, cheap putas I'll admit is one of those reasons but not drugs.

I've been coming to Colombia since 2018 and living on and off in Medellin since 2021. I got my cheap apartment in my "shitty barrio" as you call it last summer and I love it here.

Centro for me, besides when I'm looking for sex, is like the heart of the city, bustling with people going on about their daily lives. Whether I'm just sitting down at Parque San Antonio drinking a coffee watching people walk by, whether I need to go to a ferreteria to pick up a shower head or a saw to cut wood for shelving in my apartment, it can all be done in Centro. Not to mention my favorite fried chicken place at the bottom of the coultejer tower or the taco place on la playa. I also go shopping there for kitchen ware at this store called hogar why decor; they have great deals there. So no thr allure of Centro is not just cheap putas or drugs.

Maybe you should know what your talking about before you open you mouth Boy. Also I've been in many other "centros" all over Colombia, Bogota, Cucuta, Cali, Santa Marta, Bucaramanga, Melgar, Villavicencio, so I think I know alot more about "el centro" than you ever will.Whatever you said in your post has nothing to do with an average gringo monger. Visitors do not go to El Centro to pick up a shower head, kitchen ware or a saw to cut wood. Other parts of town have their own taco places, burger joints, fruit stands, and fried chicken places, and I doubt those you find in El Centro are any better (cheaper, yes) and worth spending time in traffic. Any major city, not only in Colombia, has downtown where you see people of all walks of life. No need to leave NY, Chicago or San Francisco to see people hustling and bustling.

Villainy
03-12-23, 15:59
The two aren't the same, not even close. If someone thinks they are it pretty much proves they don't have street smarts. Research it.

Keep in mind this is the same guy that thinks kidnappers are sure to let you go if your bank account shows empty at the ATM receipt. That's without considering that the criminals may be well aware that many Americans have replenish accounts. This also ignores the fact that many kidnappers may want to make a witness disappear. Thus many professionals suggest that at the beginning of such a situation it's best that you fight for your life as it likely will be your last chance to.

And it's the same guy that assumes that when when a girl posts pics of themselves at nice hotels that they've found "wealthy clients. " That's even though in the Colombian or Mexican economies any American working stiff can afford to take girls to such places. Thus we have a guy without "street smarts" that probably should have his passport seized for his own safety.Look who's back, it's the King of the Bed Bugs.

I didn't realize you were such an expert on protecting yourself in Colombia. So tell me Paulie, instead of parsing phrases, how does one go about getting "scoped" in Colombia? You see, I have lived here for years and never had the experience and neither have any of the expats in my circle.

I've always thought that a person had to be careless or worse. But you're the expert, right? You been scopalomined, so educate us?

Were you devoid of 'common sense'? Or was it that you weren't 'street smart'? Maybe you just weren't 'situationally aware'? Which was it?

What all did the person take from you? Where were you staying? Was it another one of those hostels or cheap hotels without any security that you like so much? Did you file a police report? I've heard you can't speak Spanish at all. So, how did you report your experience to the police? Did you go to a clinic or hospital to get checked out? How long were you out? Did they get your PIN number and drain your bank account?

I'm curious how the thieves could put one over on the foremost authority on bed bugs and personal safety.

Mr Enternational
03-13-23, 03:36
Well than the same can be said for those who put down others who don't mind paying higher prices.I do not see it starting out as people putting people down who don't mind paying higher prices. What I see is people trying to school those that pay higher prices that there is no need to pay that much. Then the people that pay higher prices get prideful and defensive and say things like it is their money and the girl is better and they get better service because they are paying more. Then they end up calling the person that is trying to school them cheap and broke.

A chick was coming over last night. She told me $43 for short time and $86 for all night. I told her fuck that and that I would pay $29 for short time. She said no at first, but then said she would only stay 1 hour in that case. I said okay. She got here at 9 pm and ended up not leaving until 7 am and trying to come back tonight when she finishes work. Sure I could have paid the $86 for long time she originally offered, but I know there is no reason to throw around that kind of money here. And what would the $86 have gotten me that the $29 did not get me from the same damn chick?

Maybe it just works out for me because I have never met any pussy that I had to have so I am able to hold out and to say no. You can't miss what you never had and I do not remember the chicks over the years that I had not been able to come to an agreement with.

I get happy when someone teaches me that I could be paying less for something. Why pay more when I do not have to. It confuses me when people would rather pay more for the same thing. Like the taxis at the airport for instance. A seasoned traveler knows that the people saying taxi taxi when you arrive at the airport are going to charge exorbitantly and you can go to where taxis are dropping people off to get one for normal price. Yet there are still people who refuse to walk a few steps in order to pay half the money for the same thing.

Nounce
03-13-23, 04:35
.... Other parts of town have their own taco places, burger joints, fruit stands, and fried chicken places, and I doubt those you find in El Centro are any better (cheaper, yes) and worth spending time in traffic. ....In El Centro, you interact with people, in El Poblado, you interact with corporation. In El Centrol, it's the owner making the fried chicken, espresso. They recognize you after a few visits. They are more interested in you too. You can ask for custom order easily. You see it made in front of you. Sometimes I waited in the rain with flip flops waiting for up to an hour at night because I want the fresh batch or it was just sold out. People walking by would fist bump with me for no reason. LOL. It's different type of food. I asked the owner to make the popular sauce mixture on the fries so I can learn what it is supposed to be like. Try that in a random cooperate owned places. You can have as many empanadas as you like and pay after. You basically see it made right there when you eat them and different vendor may have different home made sauce which can make a big difference. There are many unique food items simply not easy to find elsewhere. If we are just talking about Colombian food, some of the best ones are not in El Poblado or even around the area, fine dinning maybe, but that's not really Colombian food IMO.

It is a place that fruits and vegetables are often sold by pile or bag, not by weight. Several times I gave the owner a choice of taking bills or taking a bunch of coins and bill I have. They would take the coins and didn't even count it while knowing it is less than what I should pay. I bought two bad melons one time without checking. I brought it back the next day to get an exchange without receipt because there is none.

It's also a place people go to socialize. You can see many people dancing under the metro even for today in the rain.

I don't know why you and Elvis seem to overreact and just fire your counterattack aimlessly like others when you both seem very experience and intelligent elsewhere. Even if you think people are attacking you but did you notice they actually spend time writing posts with substance trying to help you understand?

Nounce
03-13-23, 15:41
.... Why pay more when I do not have to. It confuses me when people would rather pay more for the same thing. ....I think for me, many things you said took me out of my comfort zone but that is where I learned. Same thing when posting Spanish conversation, I felt embarrassed at times but that is also because I learned from the mistakes pointed out by members.

This is with a girl who I think is very hot but she is kind of under the radar that is why I picked her. I knew she would be expensive that is why I started at a slightly higher price and she accepted it which is much lower than she usually gets without much problem after I told her my reason. I expect her to make effort to earn my business. I doubt one will get better service from her by paying her double the amount.

Huacho
03-13-23, 16:23
I know I represent a sample size of one, but I recently completed fifty years of mongering so within that sample size of one monger is an "and" of well over a thousand hookers. If I were to run a regression analysis to determine the correlation of the price I have paid for hookers to the quality of service I received, I'm quite confident the "are" would be statistically indistinguishable from zero. Oh and I never got robbed or scoped while mongering. One time I was getting a blow job in a doorway in Barrio Xine in Barcelona and a guy came up with a knife but I just ran with my dick hanging out. I have gone back and forth over the years, whether the hooker was involved, but my gut tells me no. So I don't know if I am street smart or have common sense or maybe my luck has not run out yet. I have mongered in El Centro, Santa Fe, Bocatorena, etc. But also higher end brothels in Europe. And when I was living in Argentina, I mongered at pretty much every possible level. The one thing I know is, you never know, and all these generalizations being made by some of the callow youths on this board just don't hold any water.

Nounce
03-13-23, 16:30
Anyone feel the earthquake in Medellin?It felt pretty smooth. And I thought I was dreaming. I don't know what time it was because I had two chicas with me until 4 in the morning.

The chica brought a non pro bisexual friend with her. But I think I turned her into a pro because I paid her while I did not pay the pro at the same time. LOL.

The non pro left her panty at my place and I left it on the table. They came again Saturday night but with her lesbian girlfriend which caught me by surprise and I had to rush to hide the panty as I wasn't sure how open are they.

JjBee62
03-13-23, 16:33
I do not see it starting out as people putting people down who don't mind paying higher prices. What I see is people trying to school those that pay higher prices that there is no need to pay that much. Then the people that pay higher prices get prideful and defensive and say things like it is their money and the girl is better and they get better service because they are paying more. Then they end up calling the person that is trying to school them cheap and broke.

A chick was coming over last night. She told me $43 for short time and $86 for all night. I told her fuck that and that I would pay $29 for short time. She said no at first, but then said she would only stay 1 hour in that case. I said okay. She got here at 9 pm and ended up not leaving until 7 am and trying to come back tonight when she finishes work. Sure I could have paid the $86 for long time she originally offered, but I know there is no reason to throw around that kind of money here. And what would the $86 have gotten me that the $29 did not get me from the same damn chick?

Maybe it just works out for me because I have never met any pussy that I had to have so I am able to hold out and to say no. You can't miss what you never had and I do not remember the chicks over the years that I had not been able to come to an agreement with..I've always said that whatever you're comfortable with paying, pay it. It's just the rationalization that is silly. "She charges more because she recognizes her value. " Nope. Chances are most of her customers pay 1/3 of the price she throws out to a gringo. She charges more to see if she can land a sucker.

It's just a game. When I lived in San Diego I wanted a chess set, so I went looking in Tijuana. First guy wanted $75. I walked away. 15 minutes later I paid $12 for the $75 chess set and the guy still made a good profit. I had budgeted $25, so everyone was happy.

In the end, once a price has been reached, 50% or more of her performance depends on you, not on the price.

Elvis 2008
03-13-23, 19:06
it's the owner making the fried chicken, espresso. They recognize you after a few visits. They are more interested in you too. You can ask for custom order easily. You see it made in front of you. Sometimes I waited in the rain with flip flops waiting for up to an hour at night because I want the fresh batch or it was just sold out.

It's also a place people go to socialize. You can see many people dancing under the metro even for today in the rain.

I don't know why you and Elvis seem to overreact and just fire your counterattack aimlessly like others when you both seem very experience and intelligent elsewhere. Even if you think people are attacking you but did you notice they actually spend time writing posts with substance trying to help you understand?I guess you want my comments seeing as how you keep bringing me up, Nounce. Yeah, I agree with you that the Medellin morons are the problem then and not Miami Boy nor me if you look at other forums, but the issue is not that we are the problem but how the forums have been moderated and that the Medellin section is a fucking mess. It is an embarrassment to what ISG was supposed to be about.

The forum was founded on the philosophy that money was the greatest aphrodisiac. There was the notion that paying for sex was not something to be ashamed of, but here you guys go again with a mindset that is the virtue signaling I see in the Democratic party. All of sudden you Medellin morons are not pushing the other notion: that you are not paying for sex and are virtuous for not doing so. Or paying less for it. Or now there is the notion that you are going to El Centro for the culture and not the sex.

And while you morons are busy waiting for your medals that show you are more culturally aware that the crude mongers who go to El Centro for just sex, what losers! You seem to not have noticed that your efforts go totally against what the site was founded for to begin with.

Miami Boy's case that most guys go to El Centro for cheap sex should not be argued but greeted with a shrugging of the shoulders and a question, "Your point is what exactly?" Instead, it is seen as heresy by a bunch of virtue signaling morons who claim they are seeing the real Colombia and others are not. My point to MB, and one I should have made much sooner, is by now you know how fucking crazy these morons are, and what does it say about you that you are, and I was, arguing with them? Crazy is never going to admit they are crazy. By arguing with them, you are saying they are not crazy which gives them the ultimate compliment, and so they are going to come back at you again and again. Now do you get why these Medellin morons cannot shut up about me?

And Nounce, I really want to reward your triangulating bullshit so just let me know what color medal you want, and I will pin said medal on you in El Centro. The medal will be inscribed with the phrase "more virtuous than the average monger" seeing as how that is what you want.

MB, just put these fools on ignore like I did. You really are not missing anything in doing so. 99% of what these morons do is just beat their chests.

In the mean time, I was super impressed with a group I met and a tour guide in Colombia. Because of the guide, these guys had access to the best restaurants and best women, and it was a lesson on how to get by a country's road blocks. Leave the Medellin morons to the slums they think are so fucking great and do what these guys did and get the best food and finest women. The tour guides know 1000 x more than these morons ever will.

Anthony2023
03-13-23, 19:51
I do not see it starting out as people putting people down who don't mind paying higher prices. What I see is people trying to school those that pay higher prices that there is no need to pay that much. Then the people that pay higher prices get prideful and defensive and say things like it is their money and the girl is better and they get better service because they are paying more. Then they end up calling the person that is trying to school them cheap and broke.

A chick was coming over last night. She told me $43 for short time and $86 for all night. I told her fuck that and that I would pay $29 for short time. She said no at first, but then said she would only stay 1 hour in that case. I said okay. She got here at 9 pm and ended up not leaving until 7 am and trying to come back tonight when she finishes work. Sure I could have paid the $86 for long time she originally offered, but I know there is no reason to throw around that kind of money here. And what would the $86 have gotten me that the $29 did not get me from the same damn chick?

Maybe it just works out for me because I have never met any pussy that I had to have so I am able to hold out and to say no. You can't miss what you never had and I do not remember the chicks over the years that I had not been able to come to an agreement with.

I get happy when someone teaches me that I could be paying less for something. Why pay more when I do not have to. It confuses me when people would rather pay more for the same thing. Like the taxis at the airport for instance. A seasoned traveler knows that the people saying taxi taxi when you arrive at the airport are going to charge exorbitantly and you can go to where taxis are dropping people off to get one for normal price. Yet there are still people who refuse to walk a few steps in order to pay half the money for the same thing.Let's take that same concept and apply it to everything else.

9 out of 10 times, no matter what it is you are paying for, you will most likely receive better service when you pay someone more money, for example that cab driver, will most likely get your bags for you vs the guy you negotiated with, you'll be lucky to even get a "have a nice day" when you step out. Another example if you go to a restaurant and leave a bad tip, the next time you step in there I doubt the same waitress will attend to you like she did before.

It's like saying why pay $1000 to fly United when you can pay $300 to fly spirit or avianca if you're still flying from a to be.

That's if you care about service. If you don't agree then you simply don't get it. Some people don't mind paying a little more to "expect" better service.

JustTK
03-14-23, 05:37
It's like saying why pay $1000 to fly United when you can pay $300 to fly spirit or avianca if you're still flying from a to be.

This flight analogy was thoroughly debunked a few months ago. Not to mention, that the difference in flight price is most often a higher price for less service / flight time... Which seems to work in the opposite direction to what you intend.

Mr Enternational
03-14-23, 06:42
9 out of 10 times, no matter what it is you are paying for, you will most likely receive better service when you pay someone more money, for example that cab driver, will most likely get your bags for you vs the guy you negotiated with, you'll be lucky to even get a "have a nice day" when you step out.I am not paying double for someone to get my bags out of the trunk or to tell me have a nice day. I am not needy like that.


Another example if you go to a restaurant and leave a bad tip, the next time you step in there I doubt the same waitress will attend to you like she did before.You assume the service was not bad the first time therefore warranting a bad tip. Should I just leave more money this time in hopes that the service will be better next time, because I left more than I should have? How do I even know that the waiter will remember me and my tip the next time or that I will even get the same waiter next time?

That is USA bullshit anyway. When you travel to other places people understand they are being paid to do a particular job, and their performance is not based on whether or how much tip a person is going to leave. Tips in other countries are minimal and not magnanimous like the 20% and 25% people are expected to leave in the USA.


Some people don't mind paying a little more to "expect" better service.What do you do when you pay more and the service turns out to not be better? If I am paying more for something then I want to KNOW I am getting something better, not just hope or expect it will be better.


It's like saying why pay $1000 to fly United when you can pay $300 to fly spirit or avianca if you're still flying from a to be.
United and Spirit have measurable differences that would warrant a person paying more for one than the other. But if they were the exact same besides the paint job on the outside, would you pay a $700 difference hoping United will be better because you paid more? Probably not. You already know the seat on Spirit is not going to recline and you are going to have to pay extra for water. You can expect the seat on United is going to recline and you are going to get a free drink. Now are those things worth the $700 difference is for you to decide.

What better service is the 500,000 peso hooker going to give you that the 100,000 peso one is not, and is it worth the 400,000 peso price difference? As I have said before, for me it is not. I date plenty of normal chicks so I am not looking for my hooker to act like the girlfriend I don't have. I am looking for her to be the hooker that I want for the next hour or so. The 400,000 peso difference for me could be better spent on plane tickets to get me and a non-hooker chick I am dating to San Andres or Leticia or wherever. I have never had the need or desire to pay a bunch of money to borrow something half the people on the planet is in possession of.

Anthony2023
03-14-23, 09:29
This flight analogy was thoroughly debunked a few months ago. Not to mention, that the difference in flight price is most often a higher price for less service / flight time... Which seems to work in the opposite direction to what you intend.No sir.

There is very little difference between flight time and service.

There is no non stop flight from Texas to medellin. There is no non stop flight to Colombia from pretty much anywhere in the USA except Miami.

In fact there are spirit flights that get you there faster than United flights, yet people will still pay a lot more for United because they expect better service.

Nounce
03-14-23, 13:33
Let's take that same concept and apply it to everything else.

9 out of 10 times, no matter what it is you are paying for, you will most likely receive better service when you pay someone more money, for example that cab driver, will most likely get your bags for you vs the guy you negotiated with, you'll be lucky to even get a "have a nice day" when you step out. Another example if you go to a restaurant and leave a bad tip, the next time you step in there I doubt the same waitress will attend to you like she did before.

It's like saying why pay $1000 to fly United when you can pay $300 to fly spirit or avianca if you're still flying from a to be.

That's if you care about service. If you don't agree then you simply don't get it. Some people don't mind paying a little more to "expect" better service.If they know how to do it, you may get it. If a girl girl does not know how to perform a cowgirl smoothly, more money won't solve it. You won't get a good one if she does not have the stamina either. There are many golden nuggets buried in the forum that tell you how to get better service, and they don't involve money exchange. LOL. I have experienced almost all of them when some people were dismissing those ideas.

Also by offering to pay more, you likely shift the bargaining power balance. You will also be in a better position if they ask first. For example, the girls know I travel so they ask me to take them, and you know what, for "free", and not just one but two, and possibly more if I want. LOL. But I most likely have to pay them if I ask first.

Most don't think the way you do. The extras you offer to them are just "very little" because many have already been conditioned by other mongers and want something that is more than you will offer.

I went into the barrio to pick up a girl last night and walked thru some streets that didn't look like street. I was going to take her to my place. You know what she said to me "no en metro" so I left alone. LOL. I was going to give her 50 mil to keep and she knows that, on top of what I was going to pay her. I was trying to show her she can save more money by not taking taxi. That is why I made the trip. This is my regular offer, I will accompany her from and to the metro from my place when she takes metro and will still receive 50 mil. I have reported similar experience before so this is not the first instance. There is a reason some will stay poor. Just to be clear, the Uber cost will be less than 30, the extra is just a bonus for encouragement and I don't make these offers to everyone.

Nounce
03-14-23, 14:23
I guess you want my comments seeing as how you keep bringing me up, Nounce. Yeah, I agree with you that the Medellin morons are the problem then and not Miami Boy nor me if you look at other forums, but the issue is not that we are the problem but how the forums have been moderated and that the Medellin section is a fucking mess. It is an embarrassment to what ISG was supposed to be about.....A speaker constantly speaks about the dick of El Centro monger falling off, or the El Centro mongers? Most El Centro mongers seem alive and well after day in and day out mongering in El Centro. I have not found any dick scattering around in El Centro so I guess these mongers are not morons after all.

Why do the men who date elite women talk in a way that does not seem to match the "eliteness"?

Huacho
03-14-23, 15:52
Most El Centro mongers seem alive and well The dead ones usually stop posting.

Anthony2023
03-14-23, 21:55
A speaker constantly speaks about the dick of El Centro monger falling off, or the El Centro mongers? Most El Centro mongers seem alive and well after day in and day out mongering in El Centro. I have not found any dick scattering around in El Centro so I guess these mongers are not morons after all.

Why do the men who date elite women talk in a way that does not seem to match the "eliteness"?The elite talk like this seee. Like Gatsby see. Listen up Old sport or the fat lady gets it!

Oh wait that's classic 1920's mafia gangster.

Anthony2023
03-14-23, 22:06
That is USA bullshit anyway. When you travel to other places people understand they are being paid to do a particular job

United and Spirit have measurable differences that would warrant a person paying more for one than the other. But if they were the exact same besides the paint job on the outside, would you pay a $700 difference hoping United will be better because you paid more? Probably not. You already know the seat on Spirit is not going to recline and you are going to have to pay extra for water. You can expect the seat on United is going to recline and you are going to get a free drink. Now are those things worth the $700 difference is for you to decide. That's precisely my point. With United you have to pay a $700 difference for "free" water and so your seat can recline 3 inches vs spirit. Yet, people rather pay to fly United because they don't want to be seen flying in the yellow bus. Typical USA bullshit LOL.

Gabacho
03-14-23, 22:11
The dead ones usually stop posting.Does that mean Ostee is dead? LOL.

MiamiBoy1
03-14-23, 23:21
A speaker constantly speaks about the dick of El Centro monger falling off, or the El Centro mongers? Most El Centro mongers seem alive and well after day in and day out mongering in El Centro. I have not found any dick scattering around in El Centro so I guess these mongers are not morons after all.

Why do the men who date elite women talk in a way that does not seem to match the "eliteness"?Do you really think Centro rats would post here about them catching STDs? Also, people normally don't die from an STD, this is why El.

Centro mongers are still around. To each his own, but I would never bareback a street girl, why would I want to exponentially increase my odds of catching something? Barebacking ANY girl is always a risk, barebacking a street girl is just stupid.

Gabacho
03-15-23, 00:36
Do you really think Centro rats would post here about them catching STDs? Also, people normally don't die from an STD, this is why El.

Centro mongers are still around. To each his own, but I would never bareback a street girl, why would I want to exponentially increase my odds of catching something? Barebacking ANY girl is always a risk, barebacking a street girl is just stupid.Thinking that barebacking an SA or FB girl is less of a risk than barebacking a street girl, is in fact what is stupid. But hey I guess you have you gynecologist on speed dial right? Oh my bad I meant urologist, LOL.

Oh and by the way you may have thought I didn't notice that you called me a retard in one of your previous posts, but I did. I just find it ironic that the real idiot, the real retard here, has the nerve to call someone else with 100 x more experience in medellin and Colombia in general, a retard. Get off your high horse man, you are no better than anyone else here, arrogant perhaps, but better fuck no!

Paulie97
03-15-23, 01:20
Look who's back, it's the King of the Bed Bugs.Well, once again twerp, these can invade just as quickly at your 25 a night "high end" LOL 3rd world hotel as any other place. Experts confirmed this, both in the areas of insect science and hotel management, so your pompous nonsense while you escape USA high prices, slumming in the third world is exposed.

But yea, so you advise someone here to drain their ATM accounts with the surety that kidnappers that take them on ATM runs will let them go, is again an example of a twit that hasn't street smarts. Kidnappers may also murder the victims with the purpose of not allowing a witness to survive. They may also want the victim to drain savings accounts or contact relatives to replenish checking accounts, all obvious items of "street smarts" that completely sailed over your head.

We also get it, that you are so stupid as to believe that girls who post pictures of themselves at high end hotels most surely are scoring "high end" clients, when any working stiff can afford such trips over a few days in Colombia, Mexico, or the DE, thus you betray yourself as just a run of the mill failed pencil pushed streteching meager resources on Colombia.

So, you talk out of your ass but have little to offer but bad advice. That was the poiint and it's again confirmed. .

Paulie97
03-15-23, 01:33
"She charges more because she recognizes her value. " Nope. Chances are most of her customers pay 1/3 of the price she throws out to a gringo. She charges more to see if she can land a sucker.I mean if a gorilla pounds on a keyboard long enough brilliance eventually will ensue. Make this is sticky and 70% of the discussions here will be settled. Yo.

Paulie97
03-15-23, 02:05
Do you really think Centro rats would post here about them catching STDs? Also, people normally don't die from an STD, this is why El.

Centro mongers are still around. To each his own, but I would never bareback a street girl, why would I want to exponentially increase my odds of catching something? Barebacking ANY girl is always a risk, barebacking a street girl is just stupid.But you are a John. No matter how much you are paying, you are a John. No matter how much you or the girl wants to think otherwise, you are a paying customer and you are at risk, and perhaps even more at risk than the guys paying street girls, whom given the volume may be more apt to take precautions. But these hierachy of Johns discussions have always been a joke, and will continue to be.

The big question is, why do guys like you spend so much time trying to convince guys online that you are something that you aren't? That in itself is the big tell. LOL.

Elvis 2008
03-15-23, 04:08
A speaker constantly speaks about the dick of El Centro monger falling off, or the El Centro mongers?The STD part is the only part MB and I would disagree. The rest of it, you guys going to El Centro for culture, is about as believable as men saying they buy Playboy for the articles.


Why do the men who date elite women talk in a way that does not seem to match the "eliteness"?Well, you just had a moron say my elite woman is still doing tricks and then another say she was soon to be thrown into the trash heap at her age. And let me guess this right: the problem with this forum is not those comments but how guys like MB and I react to them? Truth is I had not posted here in a month. Maybe YOUR problem is you are too tolerant of the morons who make comments like this.

Mr Enternational
03-15-23, 05:06
But you are a John. No matter how much you are paying, you are a John. No matter how much you or the girl wants to think otherwise, you are a paying customer and you are at risk, and perhaps even more at risk than the guys paying street girls, whom given the volume may be more apt to take precautions. But these hierachy of Johns discussions have always been a joke, and will continue to be.

The big question is, why do guys like you spend so much time trying to convince guys online that you are something that you aren't? That in itself is the big tell. LOL.This is the shit that needs to be on a sticky. We are all paying chicks to get some ass. The hierarchy the chick I am paying is better than the chick you are paying or I am better than you because I like to pay more or my girl does not have a disease because she charges more is dumb as hell. Maybe it is just human nature.

Know yourself and do what floats your boat. My youngest brother's first time to Thailand, we went in the club and I spent $500 on bottles of liquor. They were $100 each. I felt no different than when I am in the club how I usually am, with just a glass of bubbly water.

Same as I know that if I spend 500,000 pesos on a hooker, I am not going to be 5 times more satisfied than if I spend 100,000 on one. Maybe some guys would rather save all their money up to spend big on hookers, but it is not my thing and I am fine with that. Just not something I value.

TheProcess
03-15-23, 06:49
Those are undoubtedly some of the attractions, but as I wrote previously, for me the attraction is that El Centro is the centre of diversity in MDE. You can and will meet people from all walks of life. Students, professors, business people, office staff, street vendors, street hookers, bohemains, homeless, drug addicts, disabled folks, artists, charity workers, musicians, young, old, families, lovers, gays, straights, trans, black, white, brown, some even purple. Its a huge melting pot of experiences. Folks are very firndly and usually intrigued when they meet foreigners. Its also where new arrivals to tend to live, whether they are from Vnzla, other south american countries, or other parts of Colombia. So it is also intersting bcos it always has new input. There are also theatres, museums, an immense number of malls where you can buy phones, clothes, shoes, electrics, at a fraction of the price of the suburbs.

Its reality, not plastic. BUt if ur the type of person that say, goes on holiday to LA and stays the entire time in Santa Monica ... well then, enjoy Poblado.I agree with this. I'm still 'new' so I don't want to be a braggy expert. But I stayed in El Poblado for two weeks and was out every night. I have been back quite a few nights since. I personally prefer going to El Centro. Not just for the cheap hookers. But I like that in El Centro I'm more often treated just like everyone else. There are countless people just looking for gringos to single out like in El Poblado. Sure every once in a while someone will specifically target me, but in El Centro it is less than just about everywhere else. Even on LA 70 I get far more targeted than in el Centro.

Also anyone that scoffs at all the stuff to buy and all the shops and maze of shopping as a reason to check it out. Well what can I say? I have had a lot of sex and sometimes I just want to check out the environment. Particularly in the late morning through the afternoon there is just so much more going on than in El Poblado IMO. I'm a day game guy and El Poblado is meh for me when it comes to day game.

Paulie97
03-15-23, 07:30
The rest of it, you guys going to El Centro for culture, is about as believable as men saying they buy Playboy for the articles.That one is funny for sure if not side splitting. So they are down there to observe and take pics of those fat chick statues? It's amazing the gymnastics twits will go through to try and avoid the fact that they are a client to prostitutes. I've been observing it here for 25 years. They need to just grow a pair and admit what they are, a "John. " It's okay. It won't hurt that bad. That even applies to the morons that come here with with the "high end" end around. No sell.

MiamiBoy1
03-15-23, 15:08
I'm a day game guy and El Poblado is meh for me when it comes to day game.You have just admitted that El Centro hookers is what attracts you. Could not find brothels or SW girls in El Poblado to fuck in the daytime, huh? Next time you come down to MDE do yourself a favor and book a place in El Centro, I would like to see how long you will last.

MiamiBoy1
03-15-23, 15:31
This is the shit that needs to be on a sticky. We are all paying chicks to get some ass. The hierarchy the chick I am paying is better than the chick you are paying or I am better than you because I like to pay more or my girl does not have a disease because she charges more is dumb as hell. Maybe it is just human nature.

Know yourself and do what floats your boat. My youngest brother's first time to Thailand, we went in the club and I spent $500 on bottles of liquor. They were $100 each. I felt no different than when I am in the club how I usually am, with just a glass of bubbly water.

Same as I know that if I spend 500,000 pesos on a hooker, I am not going to be 5 times more satisfied than if I spend 100,000 on one. Maybe some guys would rather save all their money up to spend big on hookers, but it is not my thing and I am fine with that. Just not something I value.Have read many of your posts, and it seems like you put pussy in the commodity category. Pussy is pussy, right? Like a barrel of crude oil, or a bottle of Coca Cola. Structurally, all pussies are the same, made of flesh and blood. You just want to stick your dick in one of those, do the deed and get out / kick her out. And you want to pay the bare minimum. You don't care about the experience as a whole, as long as she makes you climax. You don't care how attractive she is, as long as she can help you get it up, you don't care about her personality or if she is a good, fun company. This is why to you it makes no sense to pay 500 k when you can stick your dick in a 100 k hooker, because hookers are hookers, they are all the same, right? And that's fine with me, because you are honest about it. But don't make others follow your path. I value a good company, fun personality, great looks, and amazing skills in bed, and I'm willing to pay for all of the above, because essentially I'm paying for the experience, and it better be a memorable one. I'm sure I wouldn't even touch your 100 k hoes simply because they won't meet my minimum optics standards.

Mr Enternational
03-15-23, 17:04
Have read many of your posts, and it seems like you put pussy in the commodity category.If half the people on Earth have one, what would you call it if not a commodity? It is plentiful and not scarce or rare.


You just want to stick your dick in one of those, do the deed and get out / kick her out. And you want to pay the bare minimum. You don't care about the experience as a whole,For experiences as a whole I have stated plenty of times that I date normal chicks and have normal girlfriends. I do not need to get my love and affection from a hooker. With that said, there is no shortage of hookers that come with GFE. It is not something that I need to or find the need to pay extra for. I live in Thailand for god sake. Damn near every hooker that comes over is oozing with what you call "experience as a whole" and for $35 all night! Chicks come over giving massages and cooking and cleaning up the next day; teeming with "experience as a whole".


You don't care how attractive she is, as long as she can help you get it up, you don't care about her personality or if she is a good, fun company. I never said that I did not care how someone looks. As has been shown time and time again, how much you pay and looks have nothing to do with each other. Last time I was in Fase 2 there were chicks that had looks all over the place, yet they were all the same price.


This is why to you it makes no sense to pay 500 k when you can stick your dick in a 100 k hooker, because hookers are hookers, they are all the same, right? And that's fine with me, because you are honest about it. But don't make others follow your path. I value a good company, fun personality, great looks, and amazing skills in bed, and I'm willing to pay for all of the above,Once again, all the things you value in a hooker, I get from normal chicks I am dating, so no need to pay a hooker 5 times over for that. I fuck hookers for the fun of it, not because I need to get some type of paid experience or fulfillment from it as you do. I am paying for pussy, not mental or emotional stimulation.

Huacho
03-15-23, 17:29
I value a good company, fun personality, great looks, and amazing skills in bed, and I'm willing to pay for all of the aboveMe too. But fifty years tells me you can get that (although certainly not always) almost anywhere on the pricing spectrum. It does require time, effort, and language skills.

Villainy
03-15-23, 18:32
Well, once again twerp, these can invade just as quickly at your 25 a night "high end" LOL 3rd world hotel as any other place. Experts confirmed this, both in the areas of insect science and hotel management, so your pompous nonsense while you escape USA high prices, slumming in the third world is exposed.Paulie, you are King of the Bed Bugs. I certainly have no experience with them.


But yea, so you advise someone here to drain their ATM accounts with the surety that kidnappers that take them on ATM runs will let them go, is again an example of a twit that hasn't street smarts. Kidnappers may also murder the victims with the purpose of not allowing a witness to survive. They may also want the victim to drain savings accounts or contact relatives to replenish checking accounts, all obvious items of "street smarts" that completely sailed over your head.I thought we were talking about being Scopalomined, weren't we? Were you kidnapped too?

Paulie I want to hear about all your 'common sense' or 'street smarts' or was it 'situational awareness' and how you got yourself scopalomined. I used to assume it was a girl that got you but maybe it was a tranny or just a gay guy? Tell us all about it Paulie? Most of us have never been "scoped" before. Jajaja You're the experienced guy with all the common sense. How did they get you?

Did you report it to the police? Did you go get checked out at the hospital? How long were you out? What all did he / she / it take from you?

Don't be embarrassed Paulie, just tell us all about it. Don't worry, no one thought you were very bright anyway, so no one is going to think a lot less of you. A lot of us here just want to know the details.

Paulie97
03-15-23, 23:34
Paulie, you are King of the Bed Bugs. I certainly have no experience with them. Your reported experiences (anecdotes) are completely useless. I've likewise never experienced bed bugs in hotels. But that's all beside the point twit, isn't it? As you were chatising people for taking reasonable precautions while bragging about traveling the world staying in "end end" hotels, right? But you've sat in one place, and sheepishly admitting so, at a 25 a night, Spartan place on la 70. This while you abandon any real retirement ambitions to squeeze a buck in a third world country while in here pretending to be an investment expert. Lolol.


you got yourself scopalomined. No twerp it wasn't scope if you could learn how to spell it, but a benzodiazepine and associated with an Aregentine I'd known for a year. Only 200 mil was lost and no phone. And this is all from a story told from a wormy, drooping over little piece of dogshit JJBee62 who published a story that he committed to keep in confidence, but when he got his feelings hurt about an unrelated matter, put it on blast here. He'd never have the balls to face me with any of that.

But back to the points that you persistently avoid, say that a guy is sure to be let go from a kidnapper if his ATM receipts show empy. No, criminals are smarter than that and are aware of replinish accounts. They may also want to contact a relative for extortion. All points oblivious to your pencil pushing half empty head.

Villainy
03-16-23, 00:43
Your reported experiences (anecdotes) are completely useless. I've likewise never experienced bed bugs in hotels. But that's all beside the point twit, isn't it? As you were chatising people for taking reasonable precautions while bragging about traveling the world staying in "end end" hotels, right? But you've sat in one place, and sheepishly admitting so, at a 25 a night, Spartan place on la 70. This while you abandon any real retirement ambitions to squeeze a buck in a third world country while in here pretending to be an investment expert. Lolol.OK Professor Bed Bugs. BTW I just got back a week ago from a visit to the US and then a week in Prague. Didn't see any bed bugs in either place.


No twerp it wasn't scope if you could learn how to spell it, but a benzodiazepine and associated with an Aregentine I'd known for a year. Only 200 mil was lost and no phone. And this is all from a story told from a wormy, drooping over little piece of dogshit JJBee62 who published a story that he committed to keep in confidence, but when he got his feelings hurt about an unrelated matter, put it on blast here. He'd never have the balls to face me with any of that.Oh it wasn't scopolamine it was benzodiazepine. Right? Who cares? How did your "Aregentine" (using your misspelling) administer it to you? Where was your common sense or street smarts or situational awareness? And he / she only got 200 mil and no cell phone? Wow, I knew you were a pauper but I had no idea. I take it you had no credit cards either? I guess your hostel or flop-house didn't have a front desk that took their cedula or passport information. Maybe insead of kvetching about where I stay you should work an extra week at your McDonald's job and stay at a nicer, safer place.

Just a thought.

OH and I guess this was all JJBee's fault? You stay at a hostel that doesn't record a visitor's document, you bring them to your room and obviously you consume some kind of drink paying no attention to what is happening around you, demonstrating a complete lack of 'common sense' or call it 'situational awareness' and it is JJBee's fault. You're a sad little man Paulie.


But back to the points that you persistently avoid, say that a guy is sure to be let go from a kidnapper if his ATM receipts show empy. No, criminals are smarter than that and are aware of replinish accounts. They may also want to contact a relative for extortion. All points oblivious to your pencil pushing half empty head.OK why a kidnapper? Your attacker was invited into your room, you paid no attention to what she (or he) was doing and then drank a spiked drink. I guess you are right in part. Certainly this criminal was a heck of a lot smarter than her (or his) victim. What I think you typically forget in your blather is that most criminals didn't live in the US for most of their lives. They don't know much about bank accounts. They are probably poor and might not even have one. If they do, it is a savings account where they can pull what they have deposited but that is all. They don't really know much about linked investment accounts. Apparently you don't either. But that's OK Paulie. No one ever accused you of being knowledgeable about anything, except Bed Bugs.

Paulie97
03-16-23, 03:11
OK Professor Bed Bugs. BTW I just got back a week ago from a visit to the US and then a week in Prague. Didn't see any bed bugs in either place.The minute I post you are right there in you're hovel ready to reply. You've never been to Prague, nor have you been beyond your questionable motel on la 70. You can't even afford to rent a furnished apartment, something anyone on the ground could help you with if you had one.

Your advice is silly telling people they are safe if their ATM receipt shows zero after kipnapped, though the same may wish you to contact relatives, use replenish accounts, or kill you to get rid of a witness, all all points your persistently ignore. That and your laughable claim that girls who posts pics of themselves at high end resorts on FB have scored "wealthy clients" when any working stiff can afford to take them there in Colombia and Mexico.

Yes I let my guard down for a moment in Medellin as everyone has done. This was shared with JJBee in confidence, who when roughed up regarding public information, in desperation and in full scum bag mode put it on blast. It just depends on what kind of person you want to be pal. That was back in 2017 and the mistake was never repeated. For anyone that wants to know about that night just PM me.

JjBee62
03-16-23, 05:44
OK Professor Bed Bugs. BTW I just got back a week ago from a visit to the US and then a week in Prague. Didn't see any bed bugs in either place.

Oh it wasn't scopolamine it was benzodiazepine. Right? Who cares? How did your "Aregentine" (using your misspelling) administer it to you? Where was your common sense or street smarts or situational awareness? And he / she only got 200 mil and no cell phone? Wow, I knew you were a pauper but I had no idea. I take it you had no credit cards either? I guess your hostel or flop-house didn't have a front desk that took their cedula or passport information. Maybe insead of kvetching about where I stay you should work an extra week at your McDonald's job and stay at a nicer, safer place.

Just a thought.

OH and I guess this was all JJBee's fault? You stay at a hostel that doesn't record a visitor's document, you bring them to your room and obviously you consume some kind of drink paying no attention to what is happening around you, demonstrating a complete lack of 'common sense' or call it 'situational awareness' and it is JJBee's fault. You're a sad little man Paulie.

OK why a kidnapper? Your attacker was invited into your room, you paid no attention to what she (or he) was doing and then drank a spiked drink. I guess you are right in part. Certainly this criminal was a heck of a lot smarter than her (or his) victim. What I think you typically forget in your blather is that most criminals didn't live in the US for most of their lives. They don't know much about bank accounts. They are probably poor and might not even have one. If they do, it is a savings account where they can pull what they have deposited but that is all. They don't really know much about linked investment accounts. Apparently you don't either. But that's OK Paulie. No one ever accused you of being knowledgeable about anything, except Bed Bugs.It appears that Paulie wants me to tell the story for him again. It's been over 5 years, so I might miss a few minor details. Plus he's changed his version of the story at least twice. I'll also reveal the completely unrelated matter which convinced me to reveal Paulie as the victim (although, to be fair, the thieves had to spend quite a bit of time with him, which makes them victims as well). This is the version he first told me, sitting at a streetside table at the pool hall on La 70.

A bir of background before I get to the story.

A few months earlier Paulie went psycho on Whatsapp. I attempted to calm him, but he was completely nuts. As a result I stopped talking to him. Sometime, I believe in September 2017 he came to Parque Lleras looking for me I was just leaving, but agreed to meet the next day in Laureles.

Just a few days earlier he said he'd been drugged and robbed, was unconscious for 14 hours and had woken up in a hospital. I don't recall if he had stated which drug had been used. However, it doesn't really matter. If someone shoots you, the manufacturer of the gun isn't a crucial detail.

His initial version had him drinking at a bar on 70, I think the name was Pico and Botella, or something like that. It's on the west side. He was with a "Colombian friend" who has now become an Aregentine friend, which I think means he's silver plated. There were 2 hot girls, and him and his silver friend were buying them drinks. But there was another guy also buying them drinks, according to Paulie, trying to get the girls for himself.

At some point, they were drinking shots of whiskey with the guy. That's basically where his story ends. At the time he claimed his friend had been robbed too and had lost a laptop and more money than Paulie. I don't recall the amount he said he lost, but it wasn't a huge amount.

His later version he said he thought he'd been drugged at Luna Lunera and that his silver Colombian friend had been in on it. His third version changed the Colombian friend to what I can only assume is an Argentine.

Paulie told me the story and asked me to put it on ISG, but he didn't want to be identified. I complied and made one assumption. Because of how he told the story, I assumed the third guy was buying shots, which is how I wrote it. Cue Paulie psycho PM rant. The gut wasn't buying shots, Paulie had bought a bottle. After putting up with his constant abuse for a few days I revealed him as the victim and he's mostly been on my ignore list ever since.

Since then, any time I'm in a pissing contest with someone else, Paulie is in their PMs, making up shit about me and trying to give them ammunition to use against me. I've called him out on it a few times and a few other guys have told me about it. That's how brave he is.

I'll be more than happy to discuss any of that face to face Paulie, although you might need to wait awhile. Medellin isn't on my itinerary for my next 2 vacations, but I might slip in a short visit late in the year. However, with all your money you can come see me anytime. Just tell someone to send me a PM and I'll send you my number. Or post a week before your next trip and I'll squeeze in a quick 48 hour visit just to talk to you.

Villainy, how do you rate a $25 room, and a bare bones one at that? I think they charged me $80 the last time and the room was excellent. Of course, several guys have reviewed the hotel and called it the nicest in Laureles. It's certainly much nicer than the one you were in the first time we met.

Paulie97
03-16-23, 10:24
Paulie, you are King of the Bed Bugs. I certainly have no experience with them.

I thought we were talking about being Scopalomined, weren't we? Were you kidnapped too?

Paulie I want to hear about all your 'common sense' or 'street smarts' or was it 'situational awareness' and how you got yourself scopalomined. I used to assume it was a girl that got you but maybe it was a tranny or just a gay guy? Tell us all about it Paulie? Most of us have never been "scoped" before. Jajaja You're the experienced guy with all the common sense. How did they get you?

Did you report it to the police? Did you go get checked out at the hospital? How long were you out? What all did he / she / it take from you?

Don't be embarrassed Paulie, just tell us all about it. Don't worry, no one thought you were very bright anyway, so no one is going to think a lot less of you. A lot of us here just want to know the details.That alone is all we need to see. What a bunch of rambling, flailing nonsense from a guy that only has bad advice to offer, sniffing the stench from his la 70 hovel while dreaming of trip to Prague, classic.

JjBee62
03-16-23, 17:43
OK Professor Bed Bugs. BTW I just got back a week ago from a visit to the US and then a week in Prague. Didn't see any bed bugs in either place.

Oh it wasn't scopolamine it was benzodiazepine. Right? Who cares? How did your "Aregentine" (using your misspelling) administer it to you? Where was your common sense or street smarts or situational awareness? And he / she only got 200 mil and no cell phone? Wow, I knew you were a pauper but I had no idea. I take it you had no credit cards either? I guess your hostel or flop-house didn't have a front desk that took their cedula or passport information. Maybe insead of kvetching about where I stay you should work an extra week at your McDonald's job and stay at a nicer, safer place.

Just a thought.

OH and I guess this was all JJBee's fault? You stay at a hostel that doesn't record a visitor's document, you bring them to your room and obviously you consume some kind of drink paying no attention to what is happening around you, demonstrating a complete lack of 'common sense' or call it 'situational awareness' and it is JJBee's fault. You're a sad little man Paulie.

OK why a kidnapper? Your attacker was invited into your room, you paid no attention to what she (or he) was doing and then drank a spiked drink. I guess you are right in part. Certainly this criminal was a heck of a lot smarter than her (or his) victim. What I think you typically forget in your blather is that most criminals didn't live in the US for most of their lives..A couple of thoughts I left out.

1. Street smarts tells you that getting into a drinking contest with strangers is a bad idea.

Common sense tells you that getting drunk in public, in Medellin is also a bad idea.

Apparently, Paulie lacks both.

2. His silver plated Colombian friend had to have known robbing Paulie wasn't going to get him much money. I'm thinking he was drugged just because the guy was sick of listening to his incessant blabbering.

Elvis 2008
03-16-23, 19:27
That alone is all we need to see. What a bunch of rambling, flailing nonsense from a guy that only has bad advice to offer, sniffing the stench from his la 70 hovel while dreaming of trip to Prague, classic.Just put him on ignore, Paulie. V used to annoy the hell out of me and then one day I realized he was a textbook narcissist and was not able to see anything outside of his narrow view of the world. He thinks cabbies trying to rip me off or your getting drugged and his not being drugged or ripped off is due to his being morally superior. Really.

With investing, my final tally for the year was being up $30,000+ but V cannot handle that. You can be sure he will be spouting out off I am a liar not because he knows that I am but because of his ego. He thinks he is a great investor but he is anything but. He lacks the humility to be one. When my stocks went up, he said that I did not buy them. When they were down, he would make fun of me for the losses, and that is the exact behavior of a narcissist.

With the bedbugs, it is the same thing. Of course, you are completely right about them and they can be find in the finest establishments, but you have to understand what he is really saying. Bed bugs or lice would never be found on someone as great as him, and you are wasting your breath trying to convince him otherwise.

Elvis 2008
03-16-23, 19:53
This is why to you it makes no sense to pay 500 k when you can stick your dick in a 100 k hooker, because hookers are hookers, they are all the same, right? And that's fine with me, because you are honest about it.MB, he is not honest about it. He is always riding guys for not holding the line on prices. When he says that paying more for women does not float his boat or whatever, he expects everyone else to be like him, and IMO he was very jealous about the quality of women I have scored even though he would not come out and admit it.

His game works great if you want to pay as little as possible to average woman or below. Where he is full of it is his saying that he does not care about the finest or in demand women. The reality is that he is just too cheap and lazy to pay the price to get them.

What gets me is how he brags about his expensive phones. With me, I would rather by a cheaper phone and get better women, but it cracks me up that saying that goes against the Medellin moron culture. It is gauche to say you paid too much for a phone but pay an extra $50 to get a higher quality woman and the Medellin morons go nuts.

MiamiBoy1
03-16-23, 21:24
MB, he is not honest about it. He is always riding guys for not holding the line on prices. When he says that paying more for women does not float his boat or whatever, he expects everyone else to be like him, and IMO he was very jealous about the quality of women I have scored even though he would not come out and admit it.

His game works great if you want to pay as little as possible to average woman or below. Where he is full of it is his saying that he does not care about the finest or in demand women. The reality is that he is just too cheap and lazy to pay the price to get them.

What gets me is how he brags about his expensive phones. With me, I would rather by a cheaper phone and get better women, but it cracks me up that saying that goes against the Medellin moron culture. It is gauche to say you paid too much for a phone but pay an extra $50 to get a higher quality woman and the Medellin morons go nuts.Not only that, he brags about spending $500 at the night club, even though he admitted he saw no value in doing so. Brags about having multiple girlfriends, but still fucks cheap hookers for fun? Doesn't make sense. I'm wondering what kind of quality you can get for $35 in Thailand, cooking and cleaning included.

MiamiBoy1
03-16-23, 21:29
Thinking that barebacking an SA or FB girl is less of a risk than barebacking a street girl, is in fact what is stupid. But hey I guess you have you gynecologist on speed dial right? Oh my bad I meant urologist, LOL.

Oh and by the way you may have thought I didn't notice that you called me a retard in one of your previous posts, but I did. I just find it ironic that the real idiot, the real retard here, has the nerve to call someone else with 100 x more experience in medellin and Colombia in general, a retard. Get off your high horse man, you are no better than anyone else here, arrogant perhaps, but better fuck no!What amazes me is that having "100 x more experience" than I do, you are still dumb as fuck to understand simple concepts.

MiamiBoy1
03-16-23, 21:36
If half the people on Earth have one, what would you call it if not a commodity? It is plentiful and not scarce or rare.

Shakira has a pussy. My cleaning lady has one too. Both pussies are of the same age and virtually the same on the inside. By your logic, Shakira's pussy should cost the same as my cleaning lady's pussy. Good luck getting in Shakira's panties for $35.

MiamiBoy1
03-16-23, 21:45
Those mfs who frequent El Centro to experience the culture and not for the hookers, why don't you travel to Somalia then? There you will have a fantastic opportunity to experience real poverty and if you get lucky, get back home in one piece.

Villainy
03-17-23, 00:18
It appears that Paulie wants me to tell the story for him again. It's been over 5 years, so I might miss a few minor details. Plus he's changed his version of the story at least twice. I'll also reveal the completely unrelated matter which convinced me to reveal Paulie as the victim (although, to be fair, the thieves had to spend quite a bit of time with him, which makes them victims as well). This is the version he first told me, sitting at a streetside table at the pool hall on La 70.

A bit of background before I get to the story.

A few months earlier Paulie went psycho on Whatsapp. I attempted to calm him, but he was completely nuts. As a result I stopped talking to him. Sometime, I believe in September 2017 he came to Parque Lleras looking for me I was just leaving, but agreed to meet the next day in Laureles.

Just a few days earlier he said he'd been drugged and robbed, was unconscious for 14 hours and had woken up in a hospital. I don't recall if he had stated which drug had been used. However, it doesn't really matter. If someone shoots you, the manufacturer of the gun isn't a crucial detail.

His initial version had him drinking at a bar on 70, I think the name was Pico and Botella, or something like that. It's on the west side. He was with a "Colombian friend" who has now become an Aregentine friend, which I think means he's silver plated. There were 2 hot girls, and him and his silver friend were buying them drinks. But there was another guy also buying them drinks, according to Paulie, trying to get the girls for himself.

At some point, they were drinking shots of whiskey with the guy. That's basically where his story ends. At the time he claimed his friend had been robbed too and had lost a laptop and more money than Paulie. I don't recall the amount he said he lost, but it wasn't a huge amount.

His later version he said he thought he'd been drugged at Luna Lunera and that his silver Colombian friend had been in on it. His third version changed the Colombian friend to what I can only assume is an Argentine.

Paulie told me the story and asked me to put it on ISG, but he didn't want to be identified. I complied and made one assumption. Because of how he told the story, I assumed the third guy was buying shots, which is how I wrote it. Cue Paulie psycho PM rant. The gut wasn't buying shots, Paulie had bought a bottle. After putting up with his constant abuse for a few days I revealed him as the victim and he's mostly been on my ignore list ever since.

Since then, any time I'm in a pissing contest with someone else, Paulie is in their PMs, making up shit about me and trying to give them ammunition to use against me. I've called him out on it a few times and a few other guys have told me about it. That's how brave he is.

I'll be more than happy to discuss any of that face to face Paulie, although you might need to wait awhile. Medellin isn't on my itinerary for my next 2 vacations, but I might slip in a short visit late in the year. However, with all your money you can come see me anytime. Just tell someone to send me a PM and I'll send you my number. Or post a week before your next trip and I'll squeeze in a quick 48 hour visit just to talk to you.

Villainy, how do you rate a $25 room, and a bare bones one at that? I think they charged me $80 the last time and the room was excellent. Of course, several guys have reviewed the hotel and called it the nicest in Laureles. It's certainly much nicer than the one you were in the first time we met.My room has two king size beds and lots of space and a large balcony. Not to mention the 24 hour reception desk, free breakfast, weight room, sauna and daily maid service.

I went to pay my rent for the month of February before taking my trip and I told them I should only be paying $25 a night (with the appropriate COP conversion of course) afterall that is what Paulie said I was paying. They asked if that was the guy who got benzodiazepined by one of his "friends". I said yes that was the one and they said he probably hasn't recovered his mental faculties yet.

Villainy
03-17-23, 00:40
Just put him on ignore, Paulie. V used to annoy the hell out of me and then one day I realized he was a textbook narcissist and was not able to see anything outside of his narrow view of the world. He thinks cabbies trying to rip me off or your getting drugged and his not being drugged or ripped off is due to his being morally superior. Really.

With investing, my final tally for the year was being up $30,000+ but V cannot handle that. You can be sure he will be spouting out off I am a liar not because he knows that I am but because of his ego. He thinks he is a great investor but he is anything but. He lacks the humility to be one. When my stocks went up, he said that I did not buy them. When they were down, he would make fun of me for the losses, and that is the exact behavior of a narcissist.

With the bedbugs, it is the same thing. Of course, you are completely right about them and they can be find in the finest establishments, but you have to understand what he is really saying. Bed bugs or lice would never be found on someone as great as him, and you are wasting your breath trying to convince him otherwise.Hey! Look who crawled out of the baseboards of ISG. It's Elvis! I see you are here to lend moral support to Paulie. Good for you! What a guy.

Say I see you are back talking about your investment prowess. Could you tell me more about the 25,000% winner you booked a while back? I'm really dying to hear all about it.

I was also wondering about your understanding of the meaning of a "narcissist". Did you learn about the characteristics from all the advance classes you took at the University? No?? Hmmm.

I bet it was from those psychiatric textbooks you assimilated while preparing for the Medical Boards? No?

I know! You discovered the classic traits of a "narcissist" by looking in the mirror!

Mr Enternational
03-17-23, 06:03
Shakira has a pussy. My cleaning lady has one too. Both pussies are of the same age and virtually the same on the inside. By your logic, Shakira's pussy should cost the same as my cleaning lady's pussy. Good luck getting in Shakira's panties for $35.If Shakira was not famous she would be the same chick you could get down at the casa for 50,000 pesos. You are putting the value on the fame or popularity and not the pussy, same as you guys do the Instagram chicks and the like. Just like Jamie Foxx said about Jennifer Lopez. "J-Lo? I remember when it was Hey Ho!

If Shakira was a chick you knew growing up, you would not put that much value on her pussy. She would just be Shakira from down the street to you.

And as people say, do not meet your idols because you will be disappointed. Some chick you do not know that is out of reach is worth $1 million to you, but once you get to know her or have fucked her a few times you are ready to throw her out with the trash. Halle Berry is an example. She has left many a guy saying just get this crazy broad away from me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBpxl2_a0ps

LoveItHere69
03-17-23, 15:39
Surfer500 is back and immediately spouting off Centro prices on his first day. In 2-3 days he will be bitching about all the monger tourists in Centro. Simply brilliant!

JjBee62
03-17-23, 17:01
My room has two king size beds and lots of space and a large balcony. Not to mention the 24 hour reception desk, free breakfast, weight room, sauna and daily maid service.

I went to pay my rent for the month of February before taking my trip and I told them I should only be paying $25 a night (with the appropriate COP conversion of course) afterall that is what Paulie said I was paying. They asked if that was the guy who got benzodiazepined by one of his "friends". I said yes that was the one and they said he probably hasn't recovered his mental faculties yet.That's quite likely. However, Paulie recovering his mental faculties after being drugged is like a quadriplegic recovering from a broken leg. It's still not something he'll ever be able to use.

Elvis 2008
03-17-23, 18:44
Not only that, he brags about spending $500 at the night club, even though he admitted he saw no value in doing so. Brags about having multiple girlfriends, but still fucks cheap hookers for fun? Doesn't make sense.They are not girl friends but friends with benefits. If you have a woman who says I do not care if you sleep around, she does not care that much about you.

One of the problems with the forum is you cannot assess the quality of the woman and how much demand she is in, so the guys who gripe about prices really do not know what they are talking about. Yeah, Mr. E is a master at getting the average women and below at a good price, but I could have cared less about that because I was not interested in that kind of woman.

And I am not sure about his later post. Yeah, there are times you do not get what you pay for, but there are times you absolutely do.

Anthony2023
03-19-23, 00:52
I was watching some YouTube videos the other day of walks thru el centro, man it looks rough. I really don't see why anyone would want to visit that area. I call bullshit on mongers who say they don't go for the cheap hookers, there's really nothing there to bother seeing.

It also made me think, what is the average centro rat age and appearance like?

Are there any non fat mongers under 40 that visit centro hookers? I would imagine your standards have to be really low if you do.

JjBee62
03-19-23, 02:51
I was watching some YouTube videos the other day of walks thru el centro, man it looks rough. I really don't see why anyone would want to visit that area. I call bullshit on mongers who say they don't go for the cheap hookers, there's really nothing there to bother seeing.

It also made me think, what is the average centro rat age and appearance like?

Are there any non fat mongers under 40 that visit centro hookers? I would imagine your standards have to be really low if you do.So, you look at videos of 2 blocks out of over 1,000 that are in El Centro and not only do you know everything about the entire area, but you know everything about everyone who has ever gone there. That's quite a skill.

Mr Enternational
03-20-23, 03:45
I was watching some YouTube videos the other day of walks thru el centro, man it looks rough. I really don't see why anyone would want to visit that area. I was watching some youtube videos the other day of a cow going from farm to table. It looked really horrible and gross. I do not see why anyone would want to eat meat, but boy do I love me a ribeye steak.

Anthony2023
03-20-23, 13:09
So, you look at videos of 2 blocks out of over 1,000 that are in El Centro and not only do you know everything about the entire area, but you know everything about everyone who has ever gone there. That's quite a skill.It's funny because I just made a comment on the medellin forum about a guy complaining why street girls give shitty bjs LOL. It's like no shit. What you expect? It's a street girl, she's not going to give you top service. She's just trying to get it over with. You see jbbe I don't even have to go there to know about simple things like that. Amazing isn't it?

You know what would be cool tho, when the new gta 6 game comes out that's set in Miami, rumor has it that you will be able to fly out to medellin. So maybe than we can all visit el centro LOL.

Huacho
03-20-23, 16:50
Are there any non fat mongers under 40 that visit centro hookers? I would imagine your standards have to be really low if you do.What the fuck is it with you and the age thing? You will be 40 some day.

JjBee62
03-20-23, 16:57
It's funny because I just made a comment on the medellin forum about a guy complaining why street girls give shitty bjs LOL. It's like no shit. What you expect? It's a street girl, she's not going to give you top service. She's just trying to get it over with. You see jbbe I don't even have to go there to know about simple things like that. Amazing isn't it?

You know what would be cool tho, when the new gta 6 game comes out that's set in Miami, rumor has it that you will be able to fly out to medellin. So maybe than we can all visit el centro LOL.Yet, as many have reported over the years, those who frequent street girls in El Centro, who are seeking BJs are often able to find girls who meet or exceed their expectations.

It's the same with anything. Some people develop the skills needed to achieve their goals, others watch YouTube videos.

JjBee62
03-20-23, 18:53
Yet, as many have reported over the years, those who frequent street girls in El Centro, who are seeking BJs are often able to find girls who meet or exceed their expectations.

It's the same with anything. Some people develop the skills needed to achieve their goals, others watch YouTube videos.I left something out.

There have also been years worth of reports from guys paying top dollar, for the best girls, and getting lousy BJs and overall crappy service.

Getting a good BJ (or a good anything else) requires good personal hygiene and 2 other things:

1. The ability to choose the best employee.

2. The ability to motivate that employee.

The world's greatest BJ queen will give a lousy BJ if you can't motivate her to put forth her best effort. A girl, who everyone says sucks at sucking, will rock your world if you're able to get her interested in the task.

Fools think that paying more guarantees success, but it doesn't. If it did, every CEO would have their job for life and everyone would be raving about the BJs at Loutron.

I've gotten some great BJs in Medellin, mainly because I don't spend any time looking at YouTube videos.

Anthony2023
03-20-23, 19:37
Yet, as many have reported over the years, those who frequent street girls in El Centro, who are seeking BJs are often able to find girls who meet or exceed their expectations.

It's the same with anything. Some people develop the skills needed to achieve their goals, others watch YouTube videos.YouTube is awesome.

Anthony2023
03-20-23, 19:50
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Paulie97
03-20-23, 22:23
A couple of thoughts I left out.

1. Street smarts tells you that getting into a drinking contest with strangers is a bad idea.

Common sense tells you that getting drunk in public, in Medellin is also a bad idea.

Apparently, Paulie lacks both.

2. His silver plated Colombian friend had to have known robbing Paulie wasn't going to get him much money. I'm thinking he was drugged just because the guy was sick of listening to his incessant blabbering.This from the person who literally can't keep his mouth shut, whether in person or online, because that's all you have is your mouth. There were no drinking contests nor any drunkeness in public. The story was told to you in confidence and you betray that online when you got your feelings hurt because you are a scumbag without honor or personal integrity. You also refuse to tell the story as it was reported to you, making stuff along the way much of which is inconsistent. But I'm no longer going to engage with it as the story is in the open only because of betrayed confidence which is a dirtbag move.

Keep on drooping along, running your mouth to whomever will listen. Wink.

Paulie97
03-20-23, 22:35
That's quite likely. However, Paulie recovering his mental faculties after being drugged is like a quadriplegic recovering from a broken leg. It's still not something he'll ever be able to use.Your health problems are very real, and none of them learned by us via betrayed personal confidence. You have serious problems with a cardiac arrhythmia that you've been rushed to the hospital with several times. You've had fainting spells both in Medellin and at home. You also have chronic arthritis which likely is related to your drooping posture. You are as childish twit who betrays personal confidence and are living out your karma. Keep on passing out.

I got out of the drugging unscathed, health is great and lost little cash.

Paulie97
03-20-23, 22:46
Villainy, how do you rate a $25 room, and a bare bones one at that? I think they charged me $80 the last time and the room was excellent. You've of course never stayed there and are just pulling prices out of your ass, as you do here and in person. You spout off whatever sounds good to you at the time, accuracy is always optional. You are a slimeball without integrity, living out your karma each time you are rushed to the ER. I'm not going to name the hotel as I won't give out a member's full time address, but you can search Google and get in there for 30 to 35 a night, and certainly less with a walk in. And even less paying a monthly rate negotiated during Covid. The place isn't a dump but it's basic.

Paulie97
03-20-23, 22:54
You discovered the classic traits of a "narcissist" by looking in the mirror!Wow such a very creative insult, a grade school staple from the guy slumming in the 3rd World who can't afford to rent an apartment. But you get very excited here, jumping in your plastic backed chair at your Spartan desk in your mediocre hotel, first thing in the AM to see who might be abusing you in Stupid Shit. It's sad in to have so little going on in retirement.

Paulie97
03-20-23, 23:18
With the bedbugs, it is the same thing. Of course, you are completely right about them and they can be find in the finest establishments, but you have to understand what he is really saying. Bed bugs or lice would never be found on someone as great as him, and you are wasting your breath trying to convince him otherwise.This is simply common knowledge. I'll also add that the people with the least reason to act self-important are typically the ones doing so. That's because a pompous attitude is all that this Villiany twit has to show for a life's work. He's in a 3rd World hotel that can be booked online for about $30, while with any charm at all a much lower monthly rate could be negotiated. He can't afford an apartment, while anyone who calls him out he accuses of staying in "hostels," a venue I've never been to much less stayed in.

And he's likely already convinced that the bug scientists and pest control experts are correct, that brief checks when entering a new property regardless of the rates is a good idea. But it stopped being about that a long time ago. Now it's all about saving safe in Stupid Shit. Well have at it. LOL.

Dropping the mic.

Paulie97
03-21-23, 00:14
My room has two king size beds and lots of space and a large balcony. Not to mention the 24 hour reception desk, free breakfast, weight room, sauna and daily maid service. Who knows. We know you aren't using any excercise facilties as you told us you can't handle the hills in El Pablado. 24 hour reception is a selling point? Lolol Even your lowest end hotels have this. All we know for sure is that you are a proven liar, and the hotel you purport to stay at can be booked online for around 30 a night. We also know that you purported to negotiate a low monthly rate during Covid. You are likely in one of their more Spartan rooms. Now go steal some travel photos online. Wink.


They asked if that was the guy who got benzodiazepined by one of his "friends".It's a guy who works at a local shop I did business with, much more an associate than a friend. He may or may not have been involved. You also are using a story that was told in confidence and spilled here for revenge. I have never betrayed JJBee62's confidence, nor would I. How you feel about that is up to you, but it demonstrates that you aren't somone to be trusted and likely lack integrity in any sense.

Paulie97
03-21-23, 00:30
A couple of thoughts I left out.There's a lot that has been left out as of late, about the twit (you) who meets a sex worker online then moves to Colombia to rent a room from her. Within one year your entire life savings were blown while you were never paid a penny, by your admission for your work running her camera. In the aftermath you are crying to anyone who would listen about how mistreated you were, by her and her manager. They saw your effeminate ass coming while it took you an entire year to even muster up the balls to ask for some pay, of which you saw none. And that whole year, including the times I saw you you bragged away about how you were on the verge of making your fortune in the webcam business. Here we are talking about a sucker to the core, duped continually for a year, very different from a bad moment or a bad night.

But then we saw the last ditch Hail Mary, after crying to everyone online, when we tried to start your own studio but never hired anyone or were able to cut on hot water service. And he wants to talk about common sense or street smarts? Lolol That's just because he has to get involved some way, can't help himself.

MiamiBoy1
03-21-23, 01:34
I left something out.

There have also been years worth of reports from guys paying top dollar, for the best girls, and getting lousy BJs and overall crappy service.

Getting a good BJ (or a good anything else) requires good personal hygiene and 2 other things:

1. The ability to choose the best employee.

2. The ability to motivate that employee.

The world's greatest BJ queen will give a lousy BJ if you can't motivate her to put forth her best effort. A girl, who everyone says sucks at sucking, will rock your world if you're able to get her interested in the task.

Fools think that paying more guarantees success, but it doesn't. If it did, every CEO would have their job for life and everyone would be raving about the BJs at Loutron.

I've gotten some great BJs in Medellin, mainly because I don't spend any time looking at YouTube videos.Paying more does not guarantee success but greatly increases your odds. And while money and performance in bed have little correlation (but still a positive one), because there are other factors, chemistry being the most important, money can definitely buy better looks.

Paulie97
03-21-23, 02:04
Paying more does not guarantee success but greatly increases your odds. And while money and performance in bed have little correlation (but still a positive one), because there are other factors, chemistry being the most important, money can definitely buy better looks.You also have to keep in mind the source here, JjBee62 who often pays a great deal but gets little if anything for it. Take for example the experience just noted, where beating off online he met a webcam girl, then sold his whole lot to run to Medellin and rent a room in her apartment. From there he spent his entire life savings, by his admission, plus gave a her one year of free labor running her camera. And he would have worked for free even longer if her manager didn't tell him to get his sniveling, effeminate ass out the door, which he promptly did, tail between the legs of his drooping posture.

And now, he thinks he has a "girlfriend" as he sends $ in response to all the hard luck stories while getting little for it. So consider the source. Right, wrong or indifference the JJBee62 ineptitude and hypocrisy are undeniable. That's very often the case with the resident "experts" here who are out to set new posting records. Most actually have little if any experience in Medellin.

Mr Enternational
03-21-23, 02:34
money can definitely buy better looks.Well Victoria Secret should have bought someone better looking than Tyra Banks. And still nobody has explained why all the chicks in the strip club or fuck house cost the same if that is the case. In Thailand they have soapies where the chicks are divided by different prices. In my opinion the more expensive ones look no better than the cheaper ones. I asked the manager how it is decided and he said that it is by age, tit size, and if the chick has kids. (I guess Elvis' ten would be in the lowest category there.) he said nothing like well fool can't you see that the more expensive ones look better.

Paulie97
03-21-23, 03:00
JJBee was given permission to retell the drugging story as long as my personal or online identity wasn't attached. He never told it accurately and each new version changes. But later he decides to betray that confidence and connect one of his versions of the story to my online identity here. He admitted here that he betrayed that confidence, so I'm not willing to give it much airtime here. However anyone is welcome to PM me here and I'll share what went down that night.

P.S. I think what initially got him so hot and bothered and seeking retribution was when he claimed that strata one and two girls don't thank gringos for favors, that they must be at least strata three to do that. I laughed my ass off as the pseudo-intellectual tried to impose some class warfare model grabbed off leftist news media, then blocked me in Whatapp for telling him how stupid the idea was. Anyone here ever have a poorer Colombian girl thank them for a tip or other favor? Damned it's about constant. But JJBee wants to play intellectual without putting in the time at university, and shouldn't complain when he occasionally steps on his dick. Yo.

JjBee62
03-21-23, 05:21
You've of course never stayed there and are just pulling prices out of your ass, as you do here and in person. You spout off whatever sounds good to you at the time, accuracy is always optional. You are a slimeball without integrity, living out your karma each time you are rushed to the ER. I'm not going to name the hotel as I won't give out a member's full time address, but you can search Google and get in there for 30 to 35 a night, and certainly less with a walk in. And even less paying a monthly rate negotiated during Covid. The place isn't a dump but it's basic.I did stay there. Mayof 2022, although just overnight. I posted about it here. Had to park in the street to check in and then took 2 trips driving around to find the parking garage entrance (it's on Carrera 69).

I'll post the name, as Villainy has posted it more than once, as have others. Hotel Dorado La 70. Attached is a photo of a quote for July 10 from Booking and a photo of my last stay. I also checked the price for tomorrow night, pretty cheap at $56, well above your make believe price. I was wrong about the price I paid. I paid over $100.

Now, what were you saying about integrity?

JjBee62
03-21-23, 05:47
Who knows. We know you aren't using any excercise facilties as you told us you can't handle the hills in El Pablado. 24 hour reception is a selling point? Lolol Even your lowest end hotels have this. All we know for sure is that you are a proven liar, and the hotel you purport to stay at can be booked online for around 30 a night. We also know that you purported to negotiate a low monthly rate during Covid. You are likely in one of their more Spartan rooms. Now go steal some travel photos online. Wink.

It's a guy who works at a local shop I did business with, much more an associate than a friend. He may or may not have been involved. You also are using a story that was told in confidence and spilled here for revenge. I have never betrayed JJBee62's confidence, nor would I. How you feel about that is up to you, but it demonstrates that you aren't somone to be trusted and likely lack integrity in any sense.Funny. I was just in Villainy's room, December 26. My girlfriend's family had, among the other gifts, given me a 6 pack of Stella Artois and a bottle of Bailey's. Since he frequently has women over, and since Bailey's goes over well, and since he drinks better beer than the cheapest available which you drink, I regifted before we went to lunch. 2 king beds and a balcony, just as he said.

He and I discussed his hotel about 3 years ago. A friend of mine was considering staying in Laureles and I asked Villainy about Dorado La 70. At the time he told me that there was a chica fee with the basic room, but no fee if you were in a deluxe room. If I remember correctly, he stated his price at that time as $90. However, at that time, the exchange rate was around 3600.

Anyone and everyone can go check what the room rate is, for the cheapest room and for the deluxe. The can check hotel amenities and look at room photos and read reviews. Then they can decide whether or not you are being honest, or just making up a story.

Now, if he was really needing to save money, he could be staying at Hotel 47 Street. The last time the aforementioned friend stayed there, he got a rate of $17 per night by dealing directly with the hotel.

Of course you would never betray anything I told you in confidence. I would never tell you anything in confidence, even before you went completely psychotic. You would however, just as an example, betray things which were only posted on my Facebook and not intended for ISG. Or, another example, send PMs to others revealing private information about me. Maybe it's time to climb down off your high horse.

JjBee62
03-21-23, 06:59
There's a lot that has been left out as of late, about the twit (you) who meets a sex worker online then moves to Colombia to rent a room from her. Within one year your entire life savings were blown while you were never paid a penny, by your admission for your work running her camera. In the aftermath you are crying to anyone who would listen about how mistreated you were, by her and her manager. They saw your effeminate ass coming while it took you an entire year to even muster up the balls to ask for some pay, of which you saw none. And that whole year, including the times I saw you you bragged away about how you were on the verge of making your fortune in the webcam business. Here we are talking about a sucker to the core, duped continually for a year, very different from a bad moment or a bad night.

But then we saw the last ditch Hail Mary, after crying to everyone online, when we tried to start your own studio but never hired anyone or were able to cut on hot water service. And he wants to talk about common sense or street smarts? Lolol That's just because he has to get involved some way, can't help himself.Can't get over that obsession, can you?

You do understand that hot water service isn't "turned on. " Right? There isn't a system of hot water piping running under the streets of Medellin. The city doesn't turn off your hot water if you don't pay your hot water bill. It requires a hot water heater. In Colombia they mostly use in-line heaters, instead of the tank style common in the US. The apartment had no water heater, which is quite common in Medellin, especially in older buildings. One of the 3 bathrooms had a shower head heater, but it wasn't working. After a couple of weeks of cold showers, I bought a new shower head heater, installed it and had nice hot showers. I might have done it sooner, but it wasn't a priority.

This probably seems strange to you, but I don't usually see the point in telling everything that has happened to me over the past 6 years, every time I respond to something. If someone asks me where's a good place to stay in Medellin, I don't first tell them 2300 days worth of my life before suggesting a hotel. Should I? You seem upset that I'm not posting about an entire year of my life, a year that ended 5 years ago, on at least a weekly basis, but then you complain my posts are too long.

Since I'm here, let's correct at least one of your errors. I never started a webcam studio. An expat friend wanted to start one and asked me to work with him. That started well before the other events which you keep misrepresenting. You're right that I never hired anyone. I wasn't in charge of hiring. I did bring in 2 models, 3 if you include that one cammed with her boyfriend. But too little, too late.

Let's correct one other thing, for I think the 5th time. I never rented an apartment, from anyone. For 1 year, I paid no rent. I did pay utilities. Small price to pay for what amounted to a 1 year vacation. It's pretty funny that you now keep making the false claim that I rented an apartment, when initially you were calling me a freeloader because I wasn't paying rent. I guess that's just more of the Paulie integrity.

I enjoy every time you bring up this stuff. I look back at it all and smile. I met a bunch of great people and 1 psychopath, made a bunch of friends and have a lot of incredible memories.

Here's 1 that I was just reminded of on Valentine's Day. I didn't post about it, but I made a very short trip to Bogota over Valentine's Day, only in Bogota for 36 hours. Had a flight credit I needed to use with Delta. Delta flies to Bogota. Had my girlfriend meet me in Bogota and we spent 2 nights together.

On Valentine's Day we met up with my old roommate for lunch. We met up with her at her mother's house and her mother was thrilled to see me again. She showed me an item of mine I had forgotten at the apartment and had figured was gone forever. Then she asked me for a recipe.

The first time she came, along with her mother, to visit my roommate in Medellin, I cooked a simple casserole. It wasn't anything special, quick, easy and cheap to make. It wasn't even something I cooked for them, as I didn't know they were coming until I had started. I left it out to cool and headed out for a few hours. When I returned, it was all gone. They had eaten the whole thing.

A simple dish, made nearly 6 years ago, and she remembered it and wanted to know how to make it. How great is that? We had a great lunch, talked, laughed and just enjoyed ourselves for a few hours. Then it was time to go back to the hotel and give my girlfriend her Valentine's presents. If you want, I can upload the hotel room information. The price was more than $25 per day.

In the end, getting "duped" for a full year cost me around $25,000. That's right. I spent $25 k to take a 1 year vacation in Medellin, took 3 months of Spanish classes, got a new laptop, a new guitar, and new clothes. During that year I lost 60# and walked, on average, 30 miles per week. I learned my way around Poblado, Envigado, Itagui, El Centro and Laureles. I visited casas, strip clubs, the Mansion and dozens of restaurants. Let's not forget the dozens of women I fucked. As a result, if I ever want to take advantage of it, I have a free place to stay in Bogota and no shortage of people in Medellin I can hang out with (and none of them try to drug and rob me, although 1 would sell me weed if I wanted some). The only guy who you could find to hang out with you didn't care if he killed you.

So who really lost during that year? You got drugged and robbed and blew any chance of ever having a friend in Medellin and I walked away with dozens of friends, a ton of new experiences and a bunch of memories. The only downside is I picked up an obsessed nutcase who stalks my Facebook.

Anthony2023
03-21-23, 11:30
This from the person who literally can't keep his mouth shut, whether in person or online, because that's all you have is your mouth. There were no drinking contests nor any drunkeness in public. The story was told to you in confidence and you betray that online when you got your feelings hurt because you are a scumbag without honor or personal integrity. You also refuse to tell the story as it was reported to you, making stuff along the way much of which is inconsistent. But I'm no longer going to engage with it as the story is in the open only because of betrayed confidence which is a dirtbag move.

Keep on drooping along, running your mouth to whomever will listen. Wink.Is this true jbbee? Did you really betray this mans confidence? That doesn't sound like what a stand up guy would do. I was looking forward to meeting you but now I'm not sure. I hope this isn't true.

JjBee62
03-21-23, 17:36
Is this true jbbee? Did you really betray this mans confidence? That doesn't sound like what a stand up guy would do. I was looking forward to meeting you but now I'm not sure. I hope this isn't true.Calling him a man is a bit of a stretch.

As I've said too many times, Paulie came looking for me, told me his story, asked me to write his story and asked me to keep his name out of it.

Before I get to that, here's a side note. Just days before he got drugged I had posted my doubts about some of the druggings. They were always reported as happening to someone else. If a married man goes to Medellin for business and ends up spending $2000 on hookers, drugs and booze. "I was drugged and robbed" makes a convenient excuse and prevents an expensive divorce.

What I didn't consider was that many mongers are too embarrassed to report when bad things happen, so they either don't report it, or get someone else to do it.

On Paulie's previous visit we had hung out a few times. He had told me about a Venezuelan girl who he was trying to fuck. All his attempts failed and he spent a bit of money in his efforts. His last attempt involved buying pizza for her and all the Venezuelan street rats she hung out with. That failed too. He hit my Whatsapp complaining, none of the street rats thanked him for the pizza. He was furious. I asked him what he expected from a bunch of street rats? He acted like spending $10-$20 should have caused them to worship him.

I suppose I should have told him he was justified to kill them all for their failure to laud him for such an awesome act of charity, but I just didn't see the problem. If he had passed out at the bar they would have emptied his pockets. If they had found him on a dark street they would have robbed him. They'd probably never thanked anyone in their lives and I doubt cheap pizza was going to change things.

My response caused all that rage to be directed at me. Message after message, full of anger and insults. It went on for most of the day. Once the abuse stopped, I made a peace offering. I suggested that he was stressed because he was in a rut, drinking beer all day, going to the same cheap casas each day and the same cheap strip clubs at night. I made the offer to take him out of his rut, show him more of Medellin, without the constant diet of viagra and Pilsen. All expenses paid by me, just a day to relax. His response was "Fuck You. ".

About a month later I was arguing with a troll online and the guy says something about someone telling him I didn't know anything about Medellin and that nobody could stand to be around me. I didn't mention Paulie by name but told the guy only 1 person could have told him that. Paulie sent me a PM admitting he had tried to backstab me. He never apologized for his earlier psycho outburst, or for his passive-aggressive attack, but he was a bit more humble. We kept in contact through PM for a few weeks.

Then he showed up in Lleras and the next day told his story. I reported it as it was told and then all hell broke loose. My PMs were pounded by complaints that I had told the story wrong, over the minor detail of how the whiskey was bought. He had mentioned whiskey, he had mentioned shots. I assumed shots of whiskey were bought. I didn't consider someone buying a bottle.

He was still anonymous, it didn't really change the story, but he was furious, unloading abuse at me, until I finally got tired of it. I put him on ignore, posted his name and told everyone they could ask him about it.

So yes, I betrayed his confidence. That's just how I am. If you treat me like a friend, or just are indifferent to me, I'll keep your secrets. If you constantly attack me, pass out my private information to people with bad intentions towards me and both publicly and privately insult me, I no longer have any obligation to protect you.

I gave him 3 chances. That's 2 more than he deserved. Once I realized that Bipolar cycle was going to constantly repeat, I put myself outside the loop. Now he can only show his true face and it limits the number of people who will be subjected to his outbursts.

Of course it leaves him stuck with repeating the same story, although he never tells it the same, about my life 6 years ago. I suppose he thinks it will someday destroy me, but it backfires. Usually after he repeats it I'll get a few PMs asking about webcam or webcam models. And it always makes me happy to look back on one of the best years of my life.

I will close with a minor defense of Paulie. When he told me the story about being drugged, he was still foggy. There were lapses in his memory and he was trying to stitch together the bits he could remember. It's understandable that as he remembered more fragments he would change his story.

JjBee62
03-21-23, 18:42
You also have to keep in mind the source here, JjBee62 who often pays a great deal but gets little if anything for it. Take for example the experience just noted, where beating off online he met a webcam girl, then sold his whole lot to run to Medellin and rent a room in her apartment. From there he spent his entire life savings, by his admission, plus gave a her one year of free labor running her camera. And he would have worked for free even longer if her manager didn't tell him to get his sniveling, effeminate ass out the door, which he promptly did, tail between the legs of his drooping posture.

And now, he thinks he has a "girlfriend" as he sends $ in response to all the hard luck stories while getting little for it. So consider the source. Right, wrong or indifference the JJBee62 ineptitude and hypocrisy are undeniable. That's very often the case with the resident "experts" here who are out to set new posting records. Most actually have little if any experience in Medellin.And he's off. His medication.

You can't even make it 2 days without changing your story. Which at this point is definitely your story because nothing much of my story remains.

I see you are still spending an unhealthy amount of time fantasizing about me masturbating. You caught me about 10 years too late, or you could have paid a small fee and watched.

Again, never rented an apartment, except for the ones through Airbnb, never for more than 2 weeks. The apartment (first of 2) wasn't "her apartment. " It was an apartment she rented to use as a webcam studio. She lived elsewhere. The other person living there was a webcam model who remains a close friend.

Nobody "runs" a webcam model's cam. A monitor provides direction to the model, helps with translation and often handles chat and PMs. Everything with the cam is handled by the model, since the monitor isn't in the same room. Often they're not in the same building or even the same country. I worked as a monitor, but I wasn't a monitor for either the webcam model who had leased the apartment, or the webcam model who lived there.

Funny thing about my girlfriend. She never tells me hardluck stories. At least she never tells them and asks for money. For example, shortly before Christmas her grandmother was in the hospital for knee surgery. She never asked for anything. Well, she did ask for 1 thing. Since her car was in the shop (alternator, which she also forgot to ask me to pay for) and since I had a rental car, she asked if I would go pick up grandma from the hospital. I did. It was fun talking with 4 Colombian women from 3 generations, although the traffic sucked.

That sort of stuff happens all the time. Car breaks down, someone gets sick, pet gets sick. I hear about it, but I don't get asked to pay for it. That doesn't mean I don't pay for things, or give her money. Thanks to me she now has a rather impressive collection of sex toys and lingerie. I'm sure it seems like a lot of money to you, but you consider the price difference between Pilsen and Club Colombia an almost insurmountable financial hurdle.

Do I get very little out of it? I get enough, at least enough for me. Besides, she easily fits within my budget. Are you upset because you can only afford cheap hotels and the cheapest casas? It's not my fault you lack any marketable skills. After all, you completely freaked out over the price of a pizza. Or are you upset because I can remain sane long enough to develop and maintain relationships?

JjBee62
03-21-23, 19:39
I planned on responding to your highly inaccurate claims about my health today. However, I've already exceeded my daily limit for your insanity. I might get around to it tomorrow.

In the meantime, tell us more about your integrity.

MiamiBoy1
03-21-23, 20:25
Well Victoria Secret should have bought someone better looking than Tyra Banks. And still nobody has explained why all the chicks in the strip club or fuck house cost the same if that is the case. In Thailand they have soapies where the chicks are divided by different prices. In my opinion the more expensive ones look no better than the cheaper ones. I asked the manager how it is decided and he said that it is by age, tit size, and if the chick has kids. (I guess Elvis' ten would be in the lowest category there.) he said nothing like well fool can't you see that the more expensive ones look better.You have low standards and no taste in women, therefore for you women are more or less the same. You don't see any difference. Any venue has a mix of hot chicks, average or below average chicks, the difference is in the quantity and proportions. An average chick at La Isla is hotter than an average chick at Luna Lunera, and an average chick at Luna Lunera is hotter than an average chick at some low end brothel in El Centro. Every venue has its price point. And generally, the higher the price point, the better the talent. Scandallo has the hottest women in Brazil, and perhaps in LaTam, and guess what? The rates reflect that. High end escorts in Dubai get $1000+ per date, some of these chicks are ridiculously hot. Elvis was right about you, you fuck average or below average chicks for cheap and just don't know any better. And that's fine, if it floats your boat, but not admitting that women do differ in the looks, and command different rates depending on how hot and in demand they are, is just stupid. Wake the fuck up!

Huacho
03-21-23, 22:45
It just seems to me to strain credibility when someone says these two things simultaneously: 1) Centro girls and low end centro clubs are X, why, and Z. Then 2) I have never done the Centro scene. It just makes it really hard to take anyone's opinion about something they have never experience. Maybe that's just me. Here. Let me try it.

The termas in Brazil have much hotter women than the FKK clubs in Germany. Do people agree or disagree with that statement? Because I have never been to a terma or an FKK. But, that's not going to stop me from pontificating about what they are like.

Villainy
03-21-23, 23:21
.........That's because a pompous attitude is all that this Villiany twit has to show for a life's work. He's in a 3rd World hotel that can be booked online for about $30, while with any charm at all a much lower monthly rate could be negotiated. He can't afford an apartment, while anyone who calls him out he accuses of staying in "hostels," a venue I've never been to much less stayed in.
If not for the fact that JjBee62 has met you in Medellin, I would be convinced that you were an alter ego for Marquis (remember him) and had never been to Medellin. But I think I get you. When someone contradicts some of the stupid things you write you get your panties in a bunch. Let me see if I can help you with a dose of reality. You are finding the least expensive room in this hotel which apparently is posted at $30 a night. This hotel has rooms with two king beds and a view and a balcony or rooms that are internal that have no windows, no balcony and only a small space with a single double bed. Which do you think is charged out at $30 a night? No importa. BTW how much is $30 a night for 30 nights? I pay almost double that a night (which is less than I used to pay, only because the COP has weakened and is now at 4,825/ US dollar).

But say we use $30 a night x 30 nights (a normal month). Isn't that $900? When converted to COP (at at 4,825) isn't that $4,342,500? So, can you find a great apartment in one of the nicer areas of Laureles for that amount?

We're talking about Zuniga in Envigado or LOS Conquistadores or LOS Colores or Parque Laureles. Unfurnished 2 bedroom apartments in these Strata 4-5 areas are anywhere from $2 - $3. 5 million and furnished 2 bedroom apartments from $3 to $4. 5 million. So even at $30 a night which is slightly more than 1/2 of what I pay, you could rent a very nice apartment in one of the better areas in the city and most of these apartments would have other amenities in addition.

But of course, instead of grounding your comments in reality (where are you hiding your "integrity") it is easier to just make up your complaints.

BTW where do you stay when you finally save enough to visit Medellin? You said that you were not very secure financially. So where do you stay? I'm guessing a much cheaper place.


Funny. I was just in Villainy's room, December 26. My girlfriend's family had, among the other gifts, given me a 6 pack of Stella Artois and a bottle of Bailey's. Since he frequently has women over, and since Bailey's goes over well, and since he drinks better beer than the cheapest available which you drink, I regifted before we went to lunch. 2 king beds and a balcony, just as he said.

Anyone and everyone can go check what the room rate is, for the cheapest room and for the deluxe. The can check hotel amenities and look at room photos and read reviews. Then they can decide whether or not you are being honest, or just making up a story.

Ooops, I guess JjBee62 kind of confirmed your dishonesty. Tell me again Paulie, about integrity or better yet, tell me about it when you find yours.

Paulie97
03-21-23, 23:32
The whole idea that kidnappers will "have no reason to keep you" if they see your account empty in an ATM receipt as Villainy claimed is ludicrous. They may not want to keep a witness alive. Many are well aware that some will have replenish accounts or relatives to send ransom money. Thus Villainy's proposed sure ticket to safety is a joke. It matters not if the person who exposed his faulty reasoning had their drink spiked in a night club once in their already pretty long life. That's a deflection attempting to save face, ie. "What about you!" Here's the fallacy in play by the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

So Villainy, it matters not if my drink was spiked while blind drunk 100 times in Medellin, your reasoning still hasn't gotten any better. And that would include your claim that FB girls who post pics from "high end resorts" have scored "wealthy clients" is beyond stupid as any working stiff can afford to take them for a few days to resorts in 3rd World countries. As someone escaping USA pricing, slumming in a hotel to make your retirement income work, you should know about these economic factors. But yea, all these points have been completely ignored, and will continue to be. And If one is aware and capable when kidnapping is first attempted it may be the best time to fight for your life, as many in law enforcement and military intelligence suggest, as more than likely it will be your last chance to.

P.S. I'll add that it's sad that JjBee62 doesn't feel you can handle your own battles, and feels the need to jump and try and rescue you. Had he minded his own business he'd have been left alone. But instead we had to rehash all the information he published about himself, no reliance on any information said backchannel and under a agreement to keep the info in confidence was needed. That's because he's a crybaby that must air out all his personal failings and life challenges in public. His pocket was picked by a webcam model for a year, stealing his labor, then she sent his drooping ass tail between his legs out of his rented room and down the highway. He's repeatedly had his pocket picked by strippers and girls he invited to his apartment. That's because he's so timid, doesn't want to insult them by taking his pants with him to the bathroom, thus reality comes home and he's robbed. He's also in poor health due to his past and current lifestyle, but I'll refer readers to my recents posts for details. It's a train wreck, and all the more apparent when he's met in person.

Paulie97
03-22-23, 01:09
Is this true jbbee? Did you really betray this mans confidence? That doesn't sound like what a stand up guy would do. I was looking forward to meeting you but now I'm not sure. I hope this isn't true.That's exactly what he did. He was given permission to retell the story but without my name attached. He then got his feelings hurt during normal disagreements regarding public information, then in an ad hominem move (attack the messenger rather then the message) put the private info on blast here. Plus he tells the story inaccurately every time. And he admitted to doing this saying "I owe you nothing. " But he does owe me, his word and committment or the bro code if you so call it, but even more he owes himself to have some honor, to make shaving in the morning easier. He's been married I think it's three, five times? Ask the ex-wives how much honor the guy has. Go ahead and meet him if you like. He likely can point you toward some clubs or casas, but don't trust him. He's extremely talkative.

P.S. I danced with a girl next to a table in a La 70 night club. There's hookers working out of these places like in Lleras but fewer. I had a wing sitting next to my drink but that was insufficient. Yes I let my guard down, but this was back in 2017, before we all we so in tuned to how prevalent and widespread the drugging scams are. It was a one time lifetime event and never repeated. It's likewise largely irrelevant in these discussions other than as a hit back piece for slimeballs on the ropes in online discussions.

Elvis 2008
03-22-23, 02:27
Is this true jbbee? Did you really betray this mans confidence? That doesn't sound like what a stand up guy would do. I was looking forward to meeting you but now I'm not sure. I hope this isn't true.LOL. You can't tell? Paulie says JJBee was mooching for hot water. JJBee goes on a rant about how Paulie does not understand the water system in Colombia, and then admits he had no hot water.

Paulie said JJBee lost his ass starting up a cam business and then JJBee says Paulie was wrong, but he admits to helping open up a cam business.

Vilainy made out his hotel to be the Taj Mahal. I asked Paulie the name of it, and he would not tell me, but JJBee the mouth just did. Rooms go for $40 a night on line and the hotel has the same ratings as La Quinta.

So that is what you have with those two, one guys aspiring to be in La Qunta and one who lives there and thinks he has it made.

But JJBee is right up your alley, Antony. A young, fit stud like you thinks there is no way I could get a better girl than you right? And hell, JJBee is the same way. The Mouth that meowed said no one here could date the Colombian elite after I had been doing so. Eh, but just blow that off. What could I know.

The reality is to get the best you have to do what it takes, and that means rejection, money sent down a pit, being led on, and worst of all, time wasted. To find the diamond in the rough, you have to go on a lot of shitty dates with some really shitty women and keep at it. That takes the humility to learn, the stamina to move forward, and the notion that some day the money you spent will pay off.

It is so easy to put a guy down shooting for the stars.

So why bother? You had best be like Viliany and JJbee and tell yourself that your world is as good as it gets. Maybe some day you too can make it and live full time in Viliany's version of the Medellin La Quinta.

Paulie97
03-22-23, 02:36
You have a guy like JJBee with his mop of Spanish moss over his head, and this drooping over posture. He then comes to you begging for a meet like hes some savor for you for the Medellin scene, and for what reason? When you come to the meet destination you find out it's just a bent over old loser, begging for any kind of audience for him to tell how wonderful he is. And as his monologues carry on they get more ridiculous. He's even a rock expert that claims Roger Daltrey wrote most of the songs for Who, or that Paul McCartney was an insignificant member of the Beatles. I'd call him a truck stop wannabe, and his educational level is about the same, but I doubt if any around the truck stops wants to listen to it. That's assuming he even drives a truck, who knows.

Paulie97
03-22-23, 02:57
Which do you think is charged out at $30 a night? No importa. BTW how much is $30 a night for 30 nights? I pay almost double that a night I'm impressed that you can speak one Spanish work, and is likely more in your category can do. LOL It's 30 a night about now for online reservations, 25 easy for walk in, monthly rental? No telling with a bit of salesmanship that any claiming to be an investment man should know. Why are you so weak and stupid to pay more?? But I don't know. You've been caught in so many lies who knows where you are staying or even if you have a visa in Colombia.


We're talking about Zuniga in Envigado or LOS Conquistadores or LOS Colores or Parque Laureles. Unfurnished 2 bedroom apartments in these Strata 4-5 areas are anywhere from $2 - $3. 5 million and furnished 2 bedroom apartments from $3 to $4. 5 million. So even at $30 a night which is slightly more than 1/2 of what I pay, you could rent a very nice apartment in one of the better areas in the city and most of these apartments would have other amenities in addition.Why are we even considering any of this? I mean you can look up some big figures in Google to look important while for three years you've been camping out in a mediocre hotel rather than renting a luxury apartment to entertain Manrique's finest high end girls? Why are we even talking about apartments when you can't afford one?? WTF.


Ooops, I guess JjBee62 kind of confirmed your dishonesty. Tell me again Paulie, about integrity or better yet, tell me about it when you find yours.The ridiculous part is you are still sucking this guy's cock, a drooping, dying, piece of dogshit that admitted to betraying personal confidence and betraying the bro code. Let him make his own way to hospise. Stand on your own two feet like a man if you've ever known one, no matter what dump or mediocre hotel you are hiding out in. Yo. I'm talking reason here so grow a pair, perhaps for the first time in your life. I just did you a favor.

Mr Enternational
03-22-23, 03:11
Elvis was right about you, you fuck average or below average chicks for cheap and just don't know any better.But I like 35 year old single moms the same as Elvis does. I am just not fool enough to shell out $500 for their rent every month. Maybe I do not know any better.

Huacho
03-22-23, 05:04
Regarding the continuing years long Paulie and JjB saga, in Reddit terms it long ago became an ESH (everyone sucks here) situation. The constant melodramatic rehashing is humdrum and it's obvious P is bipolar and J is OCD. Neither can post concisely and both are very boring. J contributes a lot of valuable and detailed local information so that offsets somewhat but P is a waste of bandwidth. Both seem to overlook the fact that nobody gives a shit about their continued petty dispute and both have an insane need to prove themselves. Ideally both would STFU or figure out how to ride a new pony but I'm not very optimistic about that. It will probably be dueling boring posts until one or the other dies.

Nounce
03-22-23, 16:20
But I like 35 year old single moms the same as Elvis does. I am just not fool enough to shell out $500 for their rent every month. Maybe I do not know any better.I think that is not how Elvis calculates it. I think he actually saves money by doing so, otherwise he would need to pay more for hotel. Besides, the girl probably cooks for him too.

JjBee62
03-22-23, 16:22
Regarding the continuing years long Paulie and JjB saga, in Reddit terms it long ago became an ESH (everyone sucks here) situation. The constant melodramatic rehashing is humdrum and it's obvious P is bipolar and J is OCD. Neither can post concisely and both are very boring. J contributes a lot of valuable and detailed local information so that offsets somewhat but P is a waste of bandwidth. Both seem to overlook the fact that nobody gives a shit about their continued petty dispute and both have an insane need to prove themselves. Ideally both would STFU or figure out how to ride a new pony but I'm not very optimistic about that. It will probably be dueling boring posts until one or the other dies.Pretty much dead on with that one.

JjBee62
03-22-23, 17:37
You have a guy like JJBee with his mop of Spanish moss over his head, and this drooping over posture. He then comes to you begging for a meet like he's some savor for you for the Medellin scene, and for what reason? When you come to the meet destination you find out it's just a bent over old loser, begging for any kind of audience for him to tell how wonderful he is. And as his monologues carry on they get more ridiculous. He's even a rock expert that claims Roger Daltrey wrote most of the songs for Who, or that Paul McCartney was an insignificant member of the Beatles. I'd call him a truck stop wannabe, and his educational level is about the same, but I doubt if any around the truck stops wants to listen to it. That's assuming he even drives a truck, who knows.Wait. What? You really are off your meds.

That early onset baldness is something you're pretty touchy about, isn't it? Yep. I still have hair. A lot of hair. Need a haircut right now, but I'll probably put it off for another month.

I have never messaged a single person and asked to meet them. Every person I've met in Medellin, including you, contacted me first and asked to meet. Many offered to buy me a beer.

Ask the board. Not once. To the best of my recollection, I've only made first contact with one person, Slapshot, during his heyday. I said I might know a few girls who would like to get into one of his nightly jacuzzi 3 some parties. There may have been 1 other guy who wrote something so profound, I wanted to congratulate him, but I can't think who that would be.

Rock expert? Me? Nope. Granted, I think the Who's music catalog is vastly superior to The Doors', but that's a fairly common consensus. After all Jim Morrison was just an early version of Justin Bieber. Unfortunately, Bieber hasn't been as dedicated to heroin. Never really was much of a Beatles fan. Don't have much of an opinion on any of them.

I don't spend any time in truck stops, except to buy fuel, which I buy a lot of, as I'll demonstrate, and for food. Not that the food is any good. It's a struggle to find anything other than fast food and prepackaged crap. You should probably move on from "Smokey and the Bandit. " Things are different now.

I'm baffled why you'd suggest I'm lying about being a truck driver. It just doesn't seem like the type of thing anyone would lie about. "I don't want to brag, but I'm a truck driver. Yep. I can do something that is only slightly more difficult than what everyone else does every day just to get to their jobs. " Heck, I'm sure I could impress more people if I claimed to have an enlarged prostate.

So tell me, Mr. Integrity, with all of my horrible, negative qualities, why did you keep coming back? First you messaged me with a bunch of flattery, wanting to meet. Then you came to Parque Lleras to hang out with me, the first time you had ever been there. You messaged me about every little thing, from girls with bad attitudes, to getting pissed off at Exito, to getting made a fool of by a Venezuelan girl.

And it didn't end there. After I called you out for your backstabbing on ISG, you started messaging me again, several times each day. After you got drugged and robbed, who did you seek out? Who did you come to Parque Lleras, Jenson's Bar, to find? Who was the one person in all of Medellin, out of everyone you know, you sought out in your moment of distress?

I'm horrifying to look at, a misshapen, disheveled hunchback, with no conversational skills, weak, unhealthy, desperate for any attention, yet you kept coming back. Even now. You're like my toxic ex girlfriend who tells all the other girls I have VD and am a horrible person, because she thinks I'll take her back if I can't get any other girls.

Go ahead and explain that conundrum.

JjBee62
03-22-23, 18:43
I'm impressed that you can speak one Spanish work, and is likely more in your category can do.That's a fabulous piece of gibberish.


LOL It's 30 a night about now for online reservations, 25 easy for walk in, monthly rental? No telling with a bit of salesmanship that any claiming to be an investment man should know. Why are you so weak and stupid to pay more?? But I don't know. You've been caught in so many lies who knows where you are staying or even if you have a visa in Colombia.Cheapest price right now is $42 per night. $39 without taxes. However, anyone with a visa has to pay an additional 19% tax on hotel stays. Which brings the cheapest room to almost $50. Photos attached.


Why are we even considering any of this? I mean you can look up some big figures in Google to look important while for three years you've been camping out in a mediocre hotel rather than renting a luxury apartment to entertain Manrique's finest high end girls? Why are we even talking about apartments when you can't afford one?? WTF.I think you're considering it because it's something you keep bringing up. Over and over and over. But that's kind of your MO.

If he's paying $25 per night, with the additional tax, it's almost $30, which is $900 per month. At today's rate, that's almost 4 million COP monthly. There are thousands of vacant apartments in Medellin for under 4 million. For example, there's a 4 bed, 3 bath newer house in Laureles, estrato 5 area for 2. 85 million (photo attached). If he's barely able to afford $900 per month, under $600 per month (maybe $700 with cable and utilities) is much more affordable. You do understand that $700 is less than $900?


The ridiculous part is you are still sucking this guy's cock, a drooping, dying, piece of dogshit that admitted to betraying personal confidence and betraying the bro code. Let him make his own way to hospise. Stand on your own two feet like a man if you've ever known one, no matter what dump or mediocre hotel you are hiding out in. Yo. I'm talking reason here so grow a pair, perhaps for the first time in your life. I just did you a favor.The ridiculous part is that you can't seem to think about me without imagining me in some type of sexual scenario. If it helps, I'm sitting on the couch in my underwear right now. I'll be heading to the shower to get ready for work soon.

Let me fill you in on "the bro code. " First, I don't subscribe to it. If you're a worthless piece of shit, I don't care what your gender is. You don't get a pass because you're male. To think otherwise has some pretty twisted homosexual overtones.

Second, now pay attention, if you stab me in the back, you lose any and all bro code privileges. Miss Perkins, your membership has been, by thine own hand, revoked.

I'm going to take a wild guess. See how close I get. I'm guessing that at some point shortly before you launched your campaign against Villainy, you contacted him and tried to get him to meet you. My guess is that he shot you down. After that you became best buds with Elvis. Am I right? If I am right, will you admit it?

It's fun the way you keep this going. Half the people I meet ask me what's wrong with you. I don't really have an answer, but it makes an interesting conversation starter.

I realize that Villainy needs no help from me. I just do it because it's so much fun to watch you flounder.

JjBee62
03-22-23, 21:29
Your health problems are very real, and none of them learned by us via betrayed personal confidence. You have serious problems with a cardiac arrhythmia that you've been rushed to the hospital with several times. You've had fainting spells both in Medellin and at home. You also have chronic arthritis which likely is related to your drooping posture. You are as childish twit who betrays personal confidence and are living out your karma. Keep on passing out.

I got out of the drugging unscathed, health is great and lost little cash.There's a minor flaw with your diagnosis. That's without considering the fact you've never known what you're talking about, with anything.

As a licensed commercial vehicle operator, I'm required to get a physical every 2 years. If I don't pass, I don't drive. If I have a significant health concern, at the very least that requirement will be reduced to every year. Or even every 6 months.

Funny thing, my atrial flutter, a type of arrhythmia was first detected 7 or 8 years ago during my physical. The GP wouldn't sign off until I saw a cardiologist. Lots of tests, no symptoms, nothing adverse. He prescribed beta blockers and put me on 1 year physicals. I've been back on every 2 years for the past 5 years.

If, as you claim, I've been rushed to the hospital several times due to severe cardiac arrhythmia, I would no longer be allowed to drive a truck. Which means someone needs to explain why I've bought over 1200 gallons of diesel fuel this month (photo attached).

I have fainted. 3 or 4 times, once in Medellin, over the last 11 years. At least twice I wasn't on medication for the atrial flutter. Catch me on another day and I'll explain why it's not a huge concern, at least for me and my cardiologist.

I've been rushed to the hospital several times? If I include the Navy Dispensary, then yes, in my life I've been rushed to the hospital several times. Here's the full list.

1. When I was 3 or 4, we were traveling cross country by train. Somewhere in Utah the train stopped. I stood up, the train lurched, I fell and received a nasty cut above my eye. At the next town, there was a taxi waiting to rush me to the hospital, where it took 5 stitches to close the cut. The taxi took us back and the train continued. For several years the family joked I was an outlaw because I held up a train. No EKG was performed.

2. At 16 or 17, pulled a groin muscle during football practice. Doctor sent me to the hospital for x-rays, although I had to wait until practice was over. No EKG.

3. At 17 cut my hand while building a model, nicked an artery. Waited for 45 minutes trying to stop the bleeding before a slow drive to the emergency room (heavy snowstorm). 11 stitches, no EKG.

4. Age 19, first about of strep throat, high fever, delirious. My roommate had an ambulance called. Drug test, throat culture and prescribed antibiotics. No EKG.

5. Age 20, playing Frisbee, chased after an errant throw, dived and caught it. Other arm and shoulder went through my open car window and my neck hit the roof edge. Drove to the Navy Dispensary. Gave me a neck brace but no EKG.

6. Still Age 20, strep throat. Made 3 normal trips to dispensary. Each time was told to double my dosage of antibiotics, which put me at a nearly lethal dosage. Friend rushed me to the Dispensary, where I waited for an hour. Finally saw the doctor. He called in the Corpsmen, chewed them out, and cut me off the antibiotics. Still no EKG.

7. Age 22, broke my collarbone skiing at Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Got pulled down the mountain in a basket by the Ski Patrol and taken to the clinic. Got morphine, a funky brace and a sling, but no EKG.

8. Probably 49, hurt my back golfing, bad enough I couldn't finish the round. Woke up in extreme pain at 2 am. Got dressed, drove to ER, told the admissions nurse what happened, when it happened and about my long history of back problems. The NP that was sitting there immediately declared I had kidney stones. I repeated my story. Nope. Kidney stones. Spent 2 hours waiting for an x-ray, 2 hours waiting for a radiologist to read the x-ray and 2 hours for a doctor to confirm. Doctor told me "good news. You don't have kidney stones. You probably sprained your back. " Still no EKG.

9. Age 54 while packing and getting ready to move tripped and landed hard on my ribs. A few hours later I drove to the ER for an x-ray. No EKG.

10. Age 58, at a drive up Covid test, nurse detected Atrial Fibrillation. Finally an EKG! Nurse suggested calling an ambulance, I told her I could drive. We compromised. I drove my car home and my brother drove me to the hospital. We took the scenic route. Lots of tests. Placed back on medication and spent the night in the hospital for observation.

11. Age 59, after a grueling 70+ hour week, where my sleep schedule kept getting interrupted, started feeling bad on the 2 hour drive home. 45 minutes from home decided I was not going to make it. Called for an ambulance and was rushed to the hospital, but no sirens. EKG, blood tests, brain scan, drug test, echo cardiogram, tested me for everything, except Covid. Released after several hours. Two weeks later, tested positive for Covid and quarantined in Bogota for 2 weeks. Turned out it wasn't cardiac related.

Out of 11 urgent trips to a hospital or clinic, only "rushed" 3 times, never for a cardiac issue. Only went once for a cardiac issue.

It looks like you won't be getting that medical license after all. Go watch "Dream Team" and channel Christopher Lloyd. Being insane and thinking you're a doctor is completely relatable for you.

By the way, it's rheumatoid arthritis. No bone loss, no inflammation, only occasional minor pain. Strange that someone who hasn't seen me since before I had rheumatoid arthritis seems to completely disagree with my rheumatologist who sees me twice per year. Either you're the world's greatest rheumatologist, or a deranged idiot.

Just a bit of information you don't seem to be aware of. Everyone is dying. It's a process that begins the day you're born and it infects 100% of the population. Some die young, some die old. Nobody gets out alive.

Some die heroically, dramatically, or tragically. I suppose you'll die as you've lived. Pathetically.

Anthony2023
03-22-23, 23:25
LOL. You can't tell? Paulie says JJBee was mooching for hot water. JJBee goes on a rant about how Paulie does not understand the water system in Colombia, and then admits he had no hot water.

Paulie said JJBee lost his ass starting up a cam business and then JJBee says Paulie was wrong, but he admits to helping open up a cam business.

Vilainy made out his hotel to be the Taj Mahal. I asked Paulie the name of it, and he would not tell me, but JJBee the mouth just did. Rooms go for $40 a night on line and the hotel has the same ratings as La Quinta.

So that is what you have with those two, one guys aspiring to be in La Qunta and one who lives there and thinks he has it made.

But JJBee is right up your alley, Antony. A young, fit stud like you thinks there is no way I could get a better girl than you right? And hell, JJBee is the same way. The Mouth that meowed said no one here could date the Colombian elite after I had been doing so. Eh, but just blow that off. What could I know.

The reality is to get the best you have to do what it takes, and that means rejection, money sent down a pit, being led on, and worst of all, time wasted. To find the diamond in the rough, you have to go on a lot of shitty dates with some really shitty women and keep at it. That takes the humility to learn, the stamina to move forward, and the notion that some day the money you spent will pay off.LOL man all you guys have some stories. As far as what I think, you couldn't be more wrong, I never said you can't get a girl better than me LOL, anybody can get any girl, the trick is maintaining it. Keeping a girl. Obviously looks and money helps but it's not everything. But here's the difference between me and you, I'm not looking for that diamond in the rough nor do I care to do so, women aren't a priority to me at this time. I'm not looking for a wife. I'm damn sure not chasing any of them, who was it that said pussy is only pussy and I get it when I need it. That's all it is and I'm just having fun, what you or others do doesn't concern me.

Anthony2023
03-22-23, 23:34
All this talk about cheap hotels and mediocre apartments. Bed bugs. Has me concerned.

I'm staying at energy living for a week next month. Will girls get wet when they see where that I brought them there or will they instantly dry up?

Anyone have bed bug issues there? It looks nice from the pics I seen but some of you guys are talking like these hotels are for peons. Do peasants stay there? Maybe I should of stayed at the charlie or click clack hotel?

Paulie97
03-22-23, 23:39
LOL. You can't tell? Paulie says JJBee was mooching for hot water. JJBee goes on a rant about how Paulie does not understand the water system in Colombia, and then admits he had no hot water. He sold everything, put all his worldly belongings in two suitcases and moved to Colombia to rent a room from a webcam girl he met spanking his monkey online. She used him for one year then told him to scat, leaving him with never any pay for his labors. He admitted to all of this, then for months cried and cried in social media about what a victim he was to anyone that would listen. But yea, after she tossed his ass to the curb, when he rented the apartment he said he hoped to have hot water soon but never hired anyone, and thus his last ditch dream of being a player in the Medellin webcam scene died a quick death. He returned to the states penniless.

But he'll fight to the death here for any face saving, as ISG is the only place he has where he can pretend to be important. Everyone who truly knows him knows better.


Vilainy made out his hotel to be the Taj Mahal. I asked Paulie the name of it, and he would not tell me, but JJBee the mouth just did. Rooms go for $40 a night on line and the hotel has the same ratings as La Quinta.Yea though it depends on the booking site. One currently has it at 36. I've seen it as low as 30 and 32. His initial lie was that he was "traveling the world staying in luxury hotels," but the more we chipped away at that delusional BS the more that angle had to be modified and downgraded by him. The backpeddling has been hilarious.

Elvis 2008
03-23-23, 02:15
I think that is not how Elvis calculates it. I think he actually saves money by doing so, otherwise he would need to pay more for hotel. Besides, the girl probably cooks for him too.When you really care about someone, you throw out the calculator.

Sadly, I have to read some of these dumb comments when you guys quote them. Maybe $500 a month is a lot if you are slumming in the third world on a pension, but that is how much guys up here pay for an hour with an average hooker.

If you cannot put yourself in someone else's shoes, you are not going to do well with women. For men like me, $500 a month is a paltry amount in comparison first to the lost income with traveling, second the hassle of traveling, and finally as you point out the cost of room and board. And while Mr. E comes on this forum and acts like what I am doing is so weird, among American men what I am doing is greatly envied.

And then there is this dumb point from guys pushing and over 60 saying 35 is too old? LOL. Again, this shows no understanding of others. I HAD a cute 25 year old very interested in me and she thought by seeing someone older it was a sacrifice. In fact, she played a game breaking up with me and thought I would be desperate to get her back when I had already moved on.

The typical 25 year old I have seen is posting on Facebook and IG trying to get likes playing they are rich and living the life when they have no money. I would much rather have a woman who spent her time raising a child than spending hours a day posting on social media.

And only a dunce would say an average 25 year old is more in demand than a stunning 35 year old.

So if age was an issue with a 25 year old and me, are these fools saying it is not with them? Or are they just interested in hookers and average looking ones and below at that?

And Mr. E cannot see past himself when it comes to what others find valuable. He thinks he knows what is best for everyone about everything. He put Brazil up as the ultimate not knowing I had been there. Yes, some of the women I saw there were amazing, but what I have in Colombia is better than anything I had in Brazil.

And the other part that gets me is guys who try to put up these average women and below and claim they are equal to the quality of the in demand women. So many guys look at said women and say, "I would not do that for free. " And these guys act like we do not what we are missing. Yeesh.

Why the hell would men like me fly to Colombia to bang ugly women?

Paulie97
03-23-23, 02:47
All this talk about cheap hotels and mediocre apartments. Bed bugs. Has me concerned.

I'm staying at energy living for a week next month. Will girls get wet when they see where that I brought them there or will they instantly dry up?

Anyone have bed bug issues there? It looks nice from the pics I seen but some of you guys are talking like these hotels are for peons. Do peasants stay there? Maybe I should of stayed at the charlie or click clack hotel?There's two routes you could take. You could follow Villiany's lead and stay at a $30 a night or so La 70 area room and declare yourself immune. Or you could take a few reasonable precautions when entering any new property. It takes only a few minutes if that, and is worth the effort. There's plenty of instructional videos in Youtube for room inspections. Bed Bugs at the present are likely less common in Medellin than some parts of the US that have been hot spots.

Mr Enternational
03-23-23, 03:18
And Mr. E cannot see past himself when it comes to what others find valuable. He thinks he knows what is best for everyone about everything.Alert! Someone has hacked Elvis's login. The real Elvis knows it is him that can not see past himself when it comes to what others find valuable. He thinks he knows what is best for everyone.

Just a few months ago the real Elvis was spouting off that everyone is jealous of his girl and relationship because they could not get one like it. Nevermind whether they VALUED the same thing and or wanted the same thing. No I do not value paying any broad's rent and the chicks that I deal with would not even ask me to do it because they are able to support themselves.

Elvis 2008
03-23-23, 03:59
LOL man all you guys have some stories. As far as what I think, you couldn't be more wrong, I never said you can't get a girl better than me LOL, anybody can get any girl, the trick is maintaining it. Keeping a girl.Not that it matters to you, but we have been together two years, junior.


Obviously looks and money helps but it's not everything.When it comes to hookers, money is ALL that matters, Junior.


But here's the difference between me and you, I'm not looking for that diamond in the rough nor do I care to do so, women aren't a priority to me at this time. I'm not looking for a wife. I'm damn sure not chasing any of themThen why bring up your looks? Are the hookers chasing you and you have to shoo them away?


That's all it is and I'm just having fun, what you or others do doesn't concern me.I guess I must have misread you trying to school Nounce. If it is just about you having fun, why are you bragging about paying some Tijuana hooker to fly to Medellin then? You think other guys have not done that or at least been smarter than you about it?

All you have showed me is you are a fool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act.

In its original form the act made it a felony to engage in interstate or foreign commerce transport of "any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose".

Any other illegal activity you want to post here, junior?

Anthony2023
03-23-23, 14:11
Not that it matters to you, but we have been together two years, junior.

When it comes to hookers, money is ALL that matters, Junior.

Then why bring up your looks? Are the hookers chasing you and you have to shoo them away?

I guess I must have misread you trying to school Nounce. If it is just about you having fun, why are you bragging about paying some Tijuana hooker to fly to Medellin then? You think other guys have not done that or at least been smarter than you about it?

All you have showed me is you are a fool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act.

In its original form the act made it a felony to engage in interstate or foreign commerce transport of "any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose".

Any other illegal activity you want to post here, junior?1.2 years is nothing Junior.

2. Who said I was only talking about hookers.

3. As a matter of fact some of them I do have to do just that.

4. When did I mentioned I was bragging about it? LOL Why would I?

All you have showed me junior is that like others have mentioned you are really bad at comprehension and have the mentality of a total simp.

I'm sure If I went to Wikipedia and looked up the word simp it would mention Elvis. Like seriously, where do you come up with such dumb garbage. Every one of your replies just makes me laugh at how dumb you make yourself look, just the fact that you thought I was bragging about taking a hooker on vacation with me tells me that you thought that was something to brag about lmao. It's your simp mentality that makes you think this way.

Anthony2023
03-23-23, 14:24
I guess I must have misread. If it is just about you having fun, why are you bragging about paying some Tijuana hooker to fly to Medellin then? You think other guys have not done that or at least been smarter than you about it?Apparently you misread a lot of things kid. I only mentioned that the only thing I was paying for was her flight, why? Because I'm obviously the one inviting her. Junior.

I'm not paying her for her time or sex like I'm sure you would probably have to if you invited even a non hooker on a vacation, If you want to call that bragging then sure whatever floats your boat.

As far as the other dumb comment you made, of course plenty of other guys have done the same, but I am curious to see what other dumb response you have as far as what you meant by that others have been smarter than me about it? So please enlighten me. How so?

Huacho
03-23-23, 14:39
For men like me, $500 a month is a paltry amount..Right, because for "men like you," that's only a dollar a pound!

Anthony2023
03-23-23, 14:41
There's a minor flaw with your diagnosis. That's without considering the fact you've never known what you're talking about, with anything.

As a licensed commercial vehicle operator, I'm required to get a physical every 2 years. If I don't pass, I don't drive. If I have a significant health concern, at the very least that requirement will be reduced to every year. Or even every 6 months.

Funny thing, my atrial flutter, a type of arrhythmia was first detected 7 or 8 years ago during my physical. The GP wouldn't sign off until I saw a cardiologist. Lots of tests, no symptoms, nothing adverse. He prescribed beta blockers and put me on 1 year physicals. I've been back on every 2 years for the past 5 years.

If, as you claim, I've been rushed to the hospital several times due to severe cardiac arrhythmia, I would no longer be allowed to drive a truck. Which means someone needs to explain why I've bought over 1200 gallons of diesel fuel this month (photo attached).

I have fainted. 3 or 4 times, once in Medellin, over the last 11 years. At least twice I wasn't on medication for the atrial flutter. Catch me on another day and I'll explain why it's not a huge concern, at least for me and my cardiologist.

I've been rushed to the hospital several times? If I include the Navy Dispensary, then yes, in my life I've been rushed to the hospital several times. Here's the full list..They say the average person lives to be 75. Jjbee if I was you, I wouldn't waste your last remaining years going back and forth with people on the net. Can't be good for your health.

Villainy
03-23-23, 16:24
All this talk about cheap hotels and mediocre apartments. Bed bugs. Has me concerned.

I'm staying at energy living for a week next month. Will girls get wet when they see where that I brought them there or will they instantly dry up?

Anyone have bed bug issues there? It looks nice from the pics I seen but some of you guys are talking like these hotels are for peons. Do peasants stay there? Maybe I should of stayed at the charlie or click clack hotel?The only person on here that is known to stay in cheap hotels is Paulie. Of course his jealousy rages when he sees that other people are staying in places he could never afford. As to staying at Energy; you shouldn't have any issues. The main problem you will face is that if you are pulling girls form Bello or up North, they may be very late especially if you are pulling them during rush hour when las autopistas are jam packed with traffic.

Nounce
03-23-23, 17:00
When you really care about someone, you throw out the calculator....I guess you have advanced to the next level. I think 35 is too old if she is a sex worker. I also think others think you will be taken advantage of in the end. To me that is what most of the comments is about. You said you don't know either so it remains to be seen.

I had a date this week that reminds me of you. The girl asked to come to my place after work with a catch. She had a friend visiting her. After some conversation, both came. After greeting, my date told her friend I wasn't seeing other chicas, and asked me to confirm it to her friend. She brought her friend to my place to have sex so she knows I do have sex with other girls like her friends. But I guess in her mind, I wasn't seeing others. Fast forward, we finished around 2 AM. She asked to sleep with me in my room and her friend in another room. I told her I only registered her and not her friend so they couldn't stay overnight. She said to me: Thank you for trusting me. That was unexpected. Do I have a future to have as good sex as you have?

Elvis 2008
03-23-23, 17:28
He sold everything, put all his worldly belongings in two suitcases and moved to Colombia to rent a room from a webcam girl he met spanking his monkey online. She used him for one year then told him to scat, leaving him with never any pay for his labors. He admitted to all of this, then for months cried and cried in social media about what a victim he was to anyone that would listen.And this from the guy making fun of me for a breakup with my ex Venezuelan fiance years ago? LOL. The lack of honesty is what makes this forum so rough. Everyone is trying to pretend they are a stud on a hooker board. So JJBee makes a year of drinking, whacking off, going in debt, and hanging in a bar into this wonderous journey instead of the obvious truth, he hit rock bottom.


But he'll fight to the death here for any face saving, as ISG is the only place he has where he can pretend to be important. Everyone who truly knows him knows better.But you can see through it if you read enough of his posts. Like I said, he had a sugar baby he stupidly called a GF, and it did not work out. I could see it a mile away. Instead of asking how I knew, he does what he always does and engages in the same narcissistic bullshit he always employs, no one can understand my life only me. You didn't understand how hot water worked, and I did not understand the strata system. Only Professor Shit for Brains knows all.

What really pissed me off the most with my ex fiance was not her stringing me along. It was being in South America and being sexually unsatisfied. For whatever reason at the three month mark in a relationship, I have seen so many women just put other things in front of sex in a relationship. At that point, you can either talk / gripe about it, lie and see other women, or just do what I did and never commit. Of course, the bullshitters here will say that NEVER happens with them, but that is where I came up with the phrase, one made fun of here, that you have to earn my monogamy. The societal default is if you are fucking one woman, you only should be fucking her is one I no longer recognized.

So I was looking for the best sex, and eventually tired of the hookers and upped my game and got the pay per meet sugar babies. If I rotated a group to keep them fresh I was finally sexually satisfied. I did not have to worry about SBs not fucking me. And of course, life fucked that up, and I meet this current woman who wants it more than I do and who has never, ever said no to anything and we are going on two years now. All it took was 50+ years of my life to find it though.

So Professor Shit for Brains commits to his SB he calls GF, pays for everything, and a few months after that, things do not work out. We all know damned well what happened because it has happened to all of us. He gave away his monogamy to a woman who did not earn it. Quit being such a patronizing dick and learn something for once.

But will he learn something this once? Hell, no. You can expect the 10 page War and Peace novel like he just wrote to you about his health, and what will be the theme? You do not understand, Elvis.

Elvis 2008
03-23-23, 18:26
I guess you have advanced to the next level.Yes.


I think 35 is too old if she is a sex worker.She is not and has never been a sex worker. She got on seeking.com/ SA because her friends found BFs and husbands there.

But if look at preferred411, you will see tons of women in their 40's and 50's getting top $ as SWs, and very few are even in the same ballpark as her looks wise.


I also think others think you will be taken advantage of in the end. To me that is what most of the comments is about. You said you don't know either so it remains to be seen.I do know now. The group that came and visited us in Colombia had several lawyers in it. I was told prenups are the most contested contracts there are by a lawyer in California. That is what made me nervous. However, in Texas unlike California, the prenups are upheld. As one lawyer said about Texas, "they have to be". I mentioned a plan to give her what she is getting now, and another said, "You do not have to be that generous. ".

The big thing with her is that she said that she would sign whatever I wanted. Her concern has always been just being with me. I know how it sounds but she has backed it up. I told her that I did not want what she earned, and she said she did not want what I earned, so we are just going to keep things separate. I will cover the expenses until my gal starts working, but the overall expenses will probably be about the same as I am not going to be having to keep two places afloat.

One thing I have said to guys here that has been misunderstood is to only commit to Colombians who are in the elite class. For the poorer Colombians, they cannot think long term. With the elite, they typically have a relative working in the USA and the wage disparity is very real to them. In my gal's case, her daughter wants to be in a elite profession and has the brains and work ethic to do it. The difference in career income for her if she worked in Colombia versus the USA is in the millions of dollars. The difference between my gal's daughter and the typical Colombian is she knows it is possible. She has met enough Americans who have told her the job she wants is doable besides me.

If you are an elite hard worker, those millions is the money that matters. If not, then the guy's money is what the women will focus on.


II had a date this week that reminds me of you. The girl asked to come to my place after work with a catch. She had a friend visiting her. After some conversation, both came. After greeting, my date told her friend I wasn't seeing other chicas, and asked me to confirm it to her friend. She brought her friend to my place to have sex so she knows I do have sex with other girls like her friends. But I guess in her mind, I wasn't seeing others. Fast forward, we finished around 2 AM. She asked to sleep with me in my room and her friend in another room. I told her I only registered her and not her friend so they couldn't stay overnight. She said to me: Thank you for trusting me. That was unexpected. Do I have a future to have as good sex as you have?LOL. Maybe. Just think of it this way. If you are committed to a woman, she is going to give you all she is got. So however good she is, add 10% to that. So if she is among the best you have, then yeah, you might but do not forget the three month rule. That is about how long after you commit that so many woman get comfortable and will make your sex life less of a priority.

The problem is all women would swear their men are sexually satisfied and that they are the bomb when they are in bed. These women, especially the ones in demand, almost cannot conceive that any guy could not be satisfied with them.

That was a line in the movie Annie Hall. The wife said we have sex all the time like twice a week. The guy said we never have sex and only have it like twice a week.

Like I said, you can talk to the woman about your future sex life, but at the end of the day, I was like why would I want to be with a woman who does not sexually satisfy me? So I would re-evaluate things after you commit in three to six months and ask if your sex life is good because if it is not and you are an ex-monger, you are going to cheat, and you do not want the stigma of being a cheater.

There is all this bullshit about counseling and making it work. One of the things a Men Rights guy said, and he is totally right, is that a relationship should not be hard. Hell, I could just see a counselor making out some sex schedule to make sure a guy's sexual needs are met. Fuck that. If your woman no longer wants to fuck you, get out.

I have given the hot and great in bed sugar babies second and even third chances. In EVERY case, I asked myself why I dumped then and a short time later remembered why I did after said women behaved the same way. If you think you should leave a woman, you probably should because IMO things are rarely going to get better.

IMO finding a woman who is going to always sexually satisfy a guy is tough, and that is why I think it is not something most guys should shoot for. IMO it is far more likely guys are going to be sexually satisfied rotating women than hooking up with one woman.

Elvis 2008
03-23-23, 19:18
I'm staying at energy living for a week next month. Will girls get wet when they see where that I brought them there or will they instantly dry up?Neither. Energy Living has made its name as a place where foreign mongers can stay and not pay room fees for women. The best part of it was seeing all the fine women coming and going. English was spoken more there than Spanish.

My room was about half the size of a typical hotel room and the bed was on par with the shitty ones in strip clubs. Maybe there are nicer apartments there but mine was highly rated on Aibnb and sucked, and I think I paid $100+ a night there. I saw nothing impressive looks wise.


It looks nice from the pics I seen but some of you guys are talking like these hotels are for peons. Do peasants stay there? Maybe I should of stayed at the charlie or click clack hotel?Even with the higher end hotels, the rooms are really pretty much the same as the lower end ones. What separates the high end from low end is the service and the public areas. The higher end hotels have nicer pool areas, gyms, lobbies, and restaurants but those vary. I do not expect any hooker who has seen many of the places to be impressed though. They might put their nose up at the lesser hotels though. Of the high end hotels, the Marriott was the nicest and Intercontinental was second. The best value was the Dann Carlton though, great pool area.

But the main thing with me was the bed comfort for fucking and the guest fees. Though not centrally located, I thought the Fairfield Inn in the Marriott chain was the best for mongers. You can bypass the lobby as it is on like the 7th floor and bring in how ever many women you want and being a Marriott, you can count on a decent bed, hot water, and okay food.

But if you are bringing a woman with you and this Hotel Dorado (I. E. Viliany's La Quinta) really has these Deluxe rooms without guest fees, I would look at getting two rooms there. You get a cheaper room for you and your woman and then a deluxe room to play in. Make sure though you emphasize the other room is not for your woman but solely for playing.

JjBee62
03-24-23, 04:01
They say the average person lives to be 75. Jjbee if I was you, I wouldn't waste your last remaining years going back and forth with people on the net. Can't be good for your health.In my family, those who make it past 60 average making it past 89. Oldest made it to 108. Several got to 95.

Mostly I don't worry about it. If I wake up tomorrow, that's fine with me.

Huacho
03-24-23, 04:49
So I was looking for the best sex, and eventually tired of the hookers and upped my game and got the pay per meet sugar babies. All of whom, of course, are hookers. And if you think your current woman is not a hooker, and never had sex for money before meeting the great Elvis, you are delusional. To be clear, there is nothing wrong with any of that, other than you're just so fucking stupid to deny it. I would say you are stupid not to realize it, but you realize it and know it, so that makes it even more stupid to deny it. Denial is a river in Egypt as far as you are concerned.

Anthony2023
03-24-23, 05:10
The only person on here that is known to stay in cheap hotels is Paulie. Of course his jealousy rages when he sees that other people are staying in places he could never afford. As to staying at Energy; you shouldn't have any issues. The main problem you will face is that if you are pulling girls form Bello or up North, they may be very late especially if you are pulling them during rush hour when las autopistas are jam packed with traffic.Yeah I could see that being the case with its location. I think me and my lady friend that's traveling with me will stick to mostly pulling girls from the clubs.

Anthony2023
03-24-23, 05:14
Right, because for "men like you," that's only a dollar a pound!Lmaoooooooo wtf LOL.

JjBee62
03-24-23, 09:42
And this from the guy making fun of me for a breakup with my ex Venezuelan fiance years ago? LOL. The lack of honesty is what makes this forum so rough. Everyone is trying to pretend they are a stud on a hooker board. So JJBee makes a year of drinking, whacking off, going in debt, and hanging in a bar into this wonderous journey instead of the obvious truth, he hit rock bottom.Come on. I've made fun of you for dozens of things. It's so easy. You're the guy who tries to be an alpha male then says a man has to be worthy of a woman. You're the guy who says a 10 is a woman who is the most sexually desirable and then say your woman's 14 year old daughter is a 10. You're the guy, well I could go on for hours, but I think it's obvious that making fun of you, on almost any subject isn't difficult.

Is dementia contagious? If so, did you catch it from Paulie, or did he catch it from you? I've been over and over that entire year, which will have ended 5 years ago in 5 days,10 times or more. Yet neither of you seem capable of remembering any of the details except it was in Colombia and a webcam model was somehow involved. The rest you just make up whatever sounds good at the moment.

Paulie keeps going on about me renting an apartment, when I didn't. He blabbers that the failed deal with the webcam model lasted a year, then I tried for another 3 months to start a webcam studio, rented another apartment and somehow managed to fit 15 months into 1 year (352 days). It doesn't even make sense. If, after a year, I had rented another apartment, which would have required a minimum of 6 months deposit, where did the money come from? I was already broke. Remember?

He says I ran the webcam model's camera, which is impossible. I was there because the model was supposed to be starting her own studio. The studio never got started, I worked for 2 other webcam studios, but there wasn't enough work, and eventually received a small payment for my time. Not enough to cover what I'd spent, but enough for a few more months.

You and Paulie constantly fantasizing about me masturbating would freak me out, except I got over any homophobia long ago. It's just strange that 2 middle aged men are always imagining me masturbating and aren't ashamed to tell the world that they can't think about me without visualizing me stroking off.

Back on subject. Sure. On March 28,2018, I was feeling low. However, on March 29 I had a job and a place to live. Within a few months I was out of debt and improving my situation. It's been almost 5 years, I've not only replaced, I've upgraded everything I had before all of that. I've recovered my losses and then some and my income is double what it was before I started.

During that year (I'll repeat what I've already stated several times because between the 2 of you, your combined IQ barely breaks 80) I met a lot of people (ISG members, expats, Colombians, business owners, plus plenty of women), I improved my Spanish from struggling to put together 3 sentences, to carrying on conversations with several people at once, and I got to know Medellin. I made friends who will last a lifetime and I made memories. So, looking back, it was an incredible journey, it cost me very little and gained me a great deal. Feeling down for a few weeks was a small price to pay.


But you can see through it if you read enough of his posts. Like I said, he had a sugar baby he stupidly called a GF, and it did not work out. I could see it a mile away. Instead of asking how I knew, he does what he always does and engages in the same narcissistic bullshit he always employs, no one can understand my life only me. You didn't understand how hot water worked, and I did not understand the strata system. Only Professor Shit for Brains knows all.That's incredible! You could see it a mile away? But you've never been within a mile of it, which means you can't see it. I still have the same girlfriend, or whatever you and everyone else who knows nothing about it wants to call her. I spent a few weeks deciding whether or not I wished to continue and decided to keep her around for now. It's approaching 2 years, 3 years since we started talking. I'm pretty sure she's less expensive than bringing in a bunch of lawyers to draw up prenuptial agreements, or in relocating a hooker to another country.

Paulie apparently didn't understand how hot water worked. I'm going from memory here, he said I didn't have the hot water turned on. Hot water isn't a service that can be turned on or off. There's either an installed heater, or there isn't. There wasn't. Fortunately, Colombia has a cheap and easy option for anyone with basic electrical skills, a showerhead heater. Works great, takes 5 minutes to install.

You clearly didn't understand the estrato system and I doubt if you understand it now. You demonstrated beyond any doubt that it was as foreign to you as finger puppets are to a snake. Remember how it's so easy to make fun of you?

Nobody CAN understand my life. There are times when even I'm scratching my head. You would have to be insane, I'm talking rubber room, strait jacket, constantly medicated, stark raving lunatic, to think you can understand another person's life, particularly someone who you've never met. Fuck, you can't even understand my relationship with my girlfriend, or the estrato system.


So Professor Shit for Brains commits to his SB he calls GF, pays for everything, and a few months after that, things do not work out. We all know damned well what happened because it has happened to all of us. He gave away his monogamy to a woman who did not earn it. Quit being such a patronizing dick and learn something for once.

But will he learn something this once? Hell, no. You can expect the 10 page War and Peace novel like he just wrote to you about his health, and what will be the theme? You do not understand, Elvis.What else can the theme be? When you clearly don't understand, I'm rather limited. For example, it's not been a few months, closer to 2 years, I haven't paid for everything, except when she came and stayed with me in the US. But I have to pay for my living expenses regardless. It just meant I spent more on food.

You apparently know damned well what happened, but I'm lost. Can you fill me in on what caused the breakup which never happened? Or just tell me why I was considering moving on.

I never had any monogamy to give away. I don't see things in that way. For example, I spent 5 years committed to a woman, yet we often swapped, or had group sex with 4 or 5 other couples, or 3 somes with another girl, every weekend. Sex is just sex. Sometimes it's great, but if your sole definition of a relationship is how often you're getting laid, it's not a relationship.

Now, did I stop seeing hookers? Yes. Did I stop trying to find new girls? Yes. I'm well past the point of needing any more Whatsapp numbers. Did I call in lawyers and start talking about marriage? No. Only an idiot would pull a woman from a third world country, give her a first world lifestyle and expect happily ever after. Check any strip club in the US and you'll find those third world ex-wives, sucking dicks for dollars. Matter of fact, a good friend of mine has introduced me to several guys she knows who married third world women (she's a third world woman herself). Every one had nothing but regrets.

All I did was decide to stay on this ride until I get tired of it. When I do, I won't cry on ISG about my ungrateful ex who I relocated to a different country. I'll just go back to whatever feels right.

By the way, you might want to check out War and Peace again. It's more than 10 pages.

JjBee62
03-24-23, 10:19
It was a simple question. Why can't you answer it? I'll rephrase it and ask again.

According to you, I'm a horribly disfigured, unkempt wretch, who nobody could possibly bear to be around. All of that may well be true, let's assume it is. Now the question:

Why did you keep seeking my company?

You sent me a PM and wanted to meet. I didn't know who you were because you never posted. We met and had a few beers. Instead of politely making an exit so you wouldn't have to see my grotesque form or listen to my inane conversation, you asked me to accompany you to a casa. Why?

I've never known which casa it was, because I never had a desire to return. You said it was your favorite, but when we arrived there were only 3 girls and only 1 looked decent. Unfortunately the Colombian who was there before us took her. You took the average looking one then later complained about her horrible odor. Meanwhile, I turned down the only other girl, but took the 4th one who showed up. She was nothing special, but was clean and enthusiastic. Strange that with all your experience, you didn't know a casa with halfway decent women. Sorry. I got distracted.

After we parted ways, you wanted to meet up again, this time in Parque Lleras. Why? I'm so horribly disfigured I'd cause the Elephant Man to retch and listening to me is worse than fingernails on the blackboard, but you not only suggested spending the evening together, you stayed for several hours. What possessed you to waste your time with such a freak?

Up to the point where you went postal, every day you were messaging me. What was the appeal?

And it didn't end there. Once you had an excuse to send me a PM you were again messaging me every, single day. Then, after getting drugged, you made a trip to Parque Lleras, just to see me.

Please explain it. Your descriptions of me depict a freak show in a torture chamber, yet time after time you sought my companionship. After your terrible experience, of all the people you might have messaged, or called, instead you took a taxi hoping to find me. Tell me why.

You haven't seen me since I sat down to listen to your story. Therefore, I had to have been, in your eyes, a shambling, drooping, moss-headed boor before then. Why? Why? Why? Why were you not only willing, but eager to place yourself in my presence then, but now feel you must constantly expound upon my horrifying description?

Come now. With all that integrity you're overflowing with, you should have an honest answer to such a simple question.

Nounce
03-24-23, 14:57
Yes.She is not and has never been a sex worker. ...That is what I am trying to point out. I don't know what others are thinking but I guess some will think like me.


I do know now. ...You never know so you must speak to a divorce lawyer on how to protect yourself before you commit to marriage.


LOL. Maybe. Just think of it this way. If you are committed to a woman, she is going to give you all she is got. ...I am not committing to anything, not to the type of girls I am seeing now anyway. I mostly just observe and go alone to agree with them with a smile. I know when they take advantage of me but I am not concerned about that small amount as long as we have fun together. In this case, this girl is bring her friends to have sex together and thinking I am not having sex with other women so I think generosity has its reward sometimes and it pays off in a way that is unexpected.

Gabacho
03-24-23, 14:59
Paulie apparently didn't understand how hot water worked. I'm going from memory here, he said I didn't have the hot water turned on. Hot water isn't a service that can be turned on or off. There's either an installed heater, or there isn't. There wasn't. Fortunately, Colombia has a cheap and easy option for anyone with basic electrical skills, a showerhead heater. Works great, takes 5 minutes to install.I can 100% vouch for jjbee62 about the hot water shower head thing. Here's a cpl pictures of the one I installed in my apartment. I absolutely love it BTW. If you want the water really hot you just open the valve a little bit and if you want it Luke warm then you open the valve more.

Villainy
03-24-23, 18:53
She is not and has never been a sex worker. She got on SA because her friends found BFs and husbands there.

The big thing with her is that she said that she would sign whatever I wanted. Her concern has always been just being with me. I know how it sounds but she has backed it up. I told her that I did not want what she earned, and she said she did not want what I earned, so we are just going to keep things separate. I will cover the expenses until my gal starts working, but the overall expenses will probably be about the same as I am not going to be having to keep two places afloat.




(Post #5088)
And here you go again. In what world do you think you are the equal of everyone here? My gal got pregnant and pulled herself up by her boot straps. She got a government job, worked out 3 hours a day, and has been an amazing mother with a child with a bright future. She is in her early 30's and done more with her life than you have. Can you believe that? Yeah, she was not just straight up about cash or looks.




Post #5162
Why are you making a comment about her job like that when you know nothing about what she did? Because you are jealous and you say something you know is not true. When you say ranking a girl 1 to 10 is subjective, that means you are not dating a 10. When you say elite status is determined by what level housing the woman lives in and back off once you feel like my gal has yours beat, that is why I think you and know are dating less than desirable women.

And the stuff with my girl is the funniest. I have not put a photo of her up, did not say what level housing she lived in, did not mention her job specifically, yet that has not stopped your crew, Huacho, Mr. E, and V from saying the most nasty stuff about her. And when you idiots do that, it speaks volumes about you all.

So, explain this to me Elvis. You say that you will cover her expenses until she starts working. But in previous posts (listed above) you said she pulled herself up by her bra-straps and had a government job. Later you chastised people for claiming she was your hooker dependant when she had a job.

So which is it? Is she working now? Has she ever worked? (Other than as a hooker?) Did she lose her government job when the boss who hired her got tired of her blow-jobs?

I think your inconsistency needs an explanation, don't you think.

JjBee62
03-25-23, 01:07
So, explain this to me Elvis. You say that you will cover her expenses until she starts working. But in previous posts (listed above) you said she pulled herself up by her bra-straps and had a government job. Later you chastised people for claiming she was your hooker dependant when she had a job.

So which is it? Is she working now? Has she ever worked? (Other than as a hooker?) Did she lose her government job when the boss who hired her got tired of her blow-jobs?

I think your inconsistency needs an explanation, don't you think.I think that was a typo. She pulled herself up by gringo's nut sacks.

The only thing consistent about Elvis is his inconsistency.

Mr Enternational
03-25-23, 04:27
Just think of it this way. If you are committed to a woman, she is going to give you all she is got. So however good she is, add 10% to that.Dude you must have been asleep at the keyboard when you wrote this. Since when does one person's commitment have to do with how the other person acts or treat them? Never. Remember you were committed to the chick in Peru and all you got was shit in your face.

Anthony2023
03-25-23, 11:23
I can 100% vouch for jjbee62 about the hot water shower head thing. Here's a cpl pictures of the one I installed in my apartment. I absolutely love it BTW. If you want the water really hot you just open the valve a little bit and if you want it Luke warm then you open the valve more.Haha I seen those on TikTok or memes of people saying they don't want to risk dying by using those because I seen photos of some airbnbs even have them with the wires exposed LOL. So they're electric shower heads? Just curious, regardless anytime I stay at a Airbnb I prefer one that has a ceiling rainfall type shower. Might as well if you're paying for one.

Elvis 2008
03-25-23, 15:06
When I do, I won't cry on ISG about my ungrateful ex who I relocated to a different country.No, you cry about getting dumped on social media to try to suck money out of people by playing the victim.


You're the guy who tries to be an alpha male then says a man has to be worthy of a woman. You're the guy who says a 10 is a woman who is the most sexually desirable and then say your woman's 14 year old daughter is a 10. .Never said I was an alpha male nor daughter was a 10. You have built so many straw men you are a fire hazard.

As for being worthy, when you are with a woman who stops traffic and is sophisticated enough to be on the president of Colombia's arm. , it begs the question, "And what is she doing with me?" That is when the question of worthiness arises, but now I see why you do not get it given the kind of women you run with.


You clearly didn't understand the estrato system and I doubt if you understand it now.I heard of the Colombian class system when I first went to Colombia long ago. You told me nothing I did not already know. Like everything else, you state the obvious and proclaim yourself a genius. Maybe you should write 10 pages on that too.

Paulie says you are obsessed with this system, and you make it out to be as daunting as nuclear physics. Why? To impress people with your "solid" strata 4 girl? You pulled the same inflated image crap with Viliany's "La Qunita" hotel.


I spent 5 years committed to a woman, yet we often swapped, or had group sex with 4 or 5 other couples, or 3 somes with another girl.When you say committed, did you mean you were both in a mental institution? That is the only way the term committed makes sense.


I Sex is just sex.Not for women. If she does not care that you are fucking other women, then she does not really care that much about you.


I never had any monogamy to give away.Yeah, no sane woman would ever believe you could be faithful.


I still have the same girlfriend, or whatever.Or whatever? Why do you guys do this? Mr. E is fucking everything that walks while having a "girlfriend". Huacho has this 50 something toothless ex-ho he calls GF and you have a SB you are saying is a GF. WTF?


Did I call in lawyers and start talking about marriage? No.I didn't "call them in" but why would you use lawyers? You have nothing to protect, but your fianc should to protect herself from your mountains of debt.


Only an idiot would pull a woman from a third world country, give her a first world lifestyle and expect happily ever after."First world lifestyle" sounds like a line you feed women in your centro dive bars.

Maybe once a week I wish there was something in Colombia I had from the USA. Outside of my gal and her daughter, my life is 99% the same in Colombia as the USA.

And I bet my gal lives better in Colombia than your "first world" lifestyle.

I am already the family provider, and marriage is the way for us to get more time together. Nothing more. My primary concern was the kind of Democratic douche judge you know and love who would void a contract and rule that my gal was entitled to half if things did not work.

As for the strip clubs, yeah, that would be a problem with your sugar baby not my gal. She has already been pursued by jet owning multi millionaires. I bet most of the women you are with have never been on a plane.

It is true that your "solid 4" SB is an upgrade from your usual, the ghetto dwelling, glue sniffers of El Centro you pay off with food stamps. But when you say guys here cannot date the elite, you are making my point. You do not think you are worthy of dating an elite woman like my gal, and I agree. You losers need to quit trying to compete with your "girlfriends" and be happy with your multiple skanks.

JjBee62
03-25-23, 16:33
Haha I seen those on TikTok or memes of people saying they don't want to risk dying by using those because I seen photos of some airbnbs even have them with the wires exposed LOL. So they're electric shower heads? Just curious, regardless anytime I stay at a Airbnb I prefer one that has a ceiling rainfall type shower. Might as well if you're paying for one.They're pretty popular. Many of the houses up on the hills are put together using scrap and they aren't properly set up with services. No gas lines, water and electricity are sketchy. They use a propane cylinder to run the stove. It would be difficult to install a water heater because no planning went into building the house. But wiring is easy to run, so showerhead heaters are used.

They wouldn't be so scary if they were wired through GFCIs.

Gabacho
03-25-23, 16:45
Haha I seen those on TikTok or memes of people saying they don't want to risk dying by using those because I seen photos of some airbnbs even have them with the wires exposed LOL. So they're electric shower heads? Just curious, regardless anytime I stay at a Airbnb I prefer one that has a ceiling rainfall type shower. Might as well if you're paying for one.Yea it's an electric shower head that's wired directly into the circuit breaker. It turns on automatically when you open the water valve and it heats up the water within about 5 seconds and I've taken a shower for up to a half hour and it stays hot the whole time. The trick is to only open the water valve just enough to trigger it to turn on and then you get perfect hot water just like in the US. Or if it's hot outside and you want a cooler shower then you open the valve a little bit more and it comes out cooler. My last trip I didn't have it and I was taking cold showers for the whole 3 months, so when I got back in January this was one of the first things I bought LOL.

Gabacho
03-25-23, 17:02
Haha I seen those on TikTok or memes of people saying they don't want to risk dying by using those because I seen photos of some airbnbs even have them with the wires exposed LOL. So they're electric shower heads? Just curious, regardless anytime I stay at a Airbnb I prefer one that has a ceiling rainfall type shower. Might as well if you're paying for one.However, in all fairness to Paulie, there is a hotel I stay at when I'm in Bogota that has a tank hot water heater that services all the rooms in the hotel and they literally do cut it on and off (to save gas I suppose). Anyways I always have to go down to the reception and ask them to turn on the hot water for me in the mornings if I want to take a shower before like 8 am when they turn it on by default. And usually by 3 pm it's turned off again. Maybe that is where he got the idea of cutting the hot water on and off.

Anthony2023
03-26-23, 02:17
As for being worthy, when you are with a woman who stops traffic and is sophisticated enough to be on the president of Colombia's arm. , it begs the question, "And what is she doing with me?" That is when the question of worthiness arises, but now I see why you do not get it given the kind of women you run with.

She has already been pursued by jet owning multi millionaires. I bet most of the women you are with have never been on a plane. As much as you put your jet owning multi millionaires pursued gal on a pedestal LOL, you would think you would not have a problem linking her social media or at least share a picture of this drop dead gorgeous so we could see for ourselves what you're always talking about LOL. By the way does your elite GF know you constantly talk about her on almost a daily basis on a hooker forum? LOL.

JjBee62
03-26-23, 03:08
As much as you put your jet owning multi millionaires pursued gal on a pedestal LOL, you would think you would not have a problem linking her social media or at least share a picture of this drop dead gorgeous so we could see for ourselves what you're always talking about LOL. By the way does your elite GF know you constantly talk about her on almost a daily basis on a hooker forum? LOL.Pretty soon she'll have been the only Colombian to land on the moon, trip financed by the world's wealthiest men, just for the privilege of having hee smile at them. I'm pretty sure she's won at least 8 Nobel prizes and sells used panties for $3 million per pair.

Elvis has an insecurity problem that is bigger than his weight problem. It's always like that. Originally, she told Elvis that if he wanted to see her, he had to give $500 a month, to cover the money she would make if she moved and took a job. Now she's dancing Salsa with the President of Colombia and turning down dates with private jet owning millionaires, just to be with a walking advertisement for Jenny Craig.

I just date normal women. They only have to be attractive to me. No Olympic champions, no Miss Colombia's, no playthings for billionaires. Just normal women.

If a woman tried to get more money from me because some guy with his own jet wanted her, I'd tell her she better give him a call. That's worse than being a cuckold. It's blackmail for simps. All she has to do is mention some guy with more money than ElSimps daddy gives him and he's opening up his wallet. Then when she decides that no amount of money is worth living with a man too fat to wipe his own ass he'll be crying again.

Elvis 2008
03-26-23, 03:57
The only thing consistent about Elvis is his inconsistency.The only thing consistent is you guys being fucking morons when it comes to money. You inflate Vi's hotel from $20 to $90. Then you brag about how little you spend on the lowlife women. "Hey, JJBee, I banged this centro wench for a $1 and a bottle of glue. " And you all are obsessed about the $4 bank fees. And somehow the most studly thing to do is mooch housing off a woman.

Of course, the Medellin morons financial advisor is Viliany, a guy bragging about his hotel and its 24 hour receptionist and hot towels. Until his government checks came in, I guess he was staying at motels with hourly rates. I guess those towels come in handy when he is looking at the Marriott beating off, "Some day, I will be staying there. Some day. ".

And V worked in the securities industries, and unless he was mopping the floors, he was vastly underqualified to work there. Anyone can look at his record on investing and see that. Last year it was commercial real estate and this year, it is the banks.

So V thinks he has me. V, why the fuck would I spend anywhere from $500 to $1000 on a plane ticket to see a woman who would be at work all day getting paid $500 a month? I made $30,000 last year just screwing around in the market part time. That is enough to support her for five years. And as stupid as the market has been lately, I expect to do even better this year.

And when I meant my gal would go to work and was talking about her coming to the USA, do you think I meant the $500 a month in Colombia or making $5000 a month in the USAA working when I was working V? Be careful. It could be a trick question.

After getting your ass kicked in the market and after being exposed as being in a La Quinta type hotel, and after Paulie made fun of you about your line about staying in the "great luxury hotels", I would think if you had any common sense or humility, you would shut the fuck up, but I know better. You are a fucking narcissist without a drop of humility in your body.

Mr Enternational
03-26-23, 04:03
you have a SB you are saying is a GF. WTF?
Says the man that met his girlfriend on an actual sugar baby website and takes care of her like one. WTF is right! I guess she got what she literally signed up for.

Huacho
03-26-23, 04:32
Haha I seen those on TikTok or memes of people saying they don't want to risk dying by using those because I seen photos of some airbnbs even have them with the wires exposed LOL. So they're electric shower heads? Just curious, regardless anytime I stay at a Airbnb I prefer one that has a ceiling rainfall type shower. Might as well if you're paying for one.So I live in Guatemala now and a month or so ago, my shower literally caught on fire. That's hard to do but with these shower heads, you can. Actual flames while I was showering since the wires are higher than the water. I had been smelling burnt wire for a month or so before that. Also when you touch the faucet you often get a bit of a shock. And if you want a HOT shower it will basically be a drizzle. I will say my landlords, who are the best, replaced it the very next day, with a better model but it still sucks. It will burn up again in a few years but I will be gone by then. It's quite a shock to many gringos to see these things, literally and figuratively.

Huacho
03-26-23, 04:38
Huacho has this 50 something toothless ex-ho he calls GF Dude, you are confusing me with someone else or are off your meds or something. I have not had or called anyone my girlfriend in years. And how would you know the dental status of anyone I am associated with? Nor have I had any lovers in their 50's since a madura I fucked for a while in Argentina 20 years ago. You're delirious. I've never, ever referred to a girlfriend on this board.

Rocko20
03-26-23, 04:52
As much as you put your jet owning multi millionaires pursued gal on a pedestal LOL, you would think you would not have a problem linking her social media or at least share a picture of this drop dead gorgeous so we could see for ourselves what you're always talking about LOL. By the way does your elite GF know you constantly talk about her on almost a daily basis on a hooker forum? LOL.I agree. One has to laugh at people who brag about how good their hooker is, on a hooker forum with other mongers.

Even when they do post a picture, it's usually some average woman that many mongers wouldn't be interested in because they are a dime a dozen.

Huacho
03-26-23, 06:59
However, in all fairness to Paulie, there is a hotel I stay at when I'm in Bogota that has a tank hot water heater that services all the rooms in the hotel and they literally do cut it on and off (to save gas I suppose). Anyways I always have to go down to the reception and ask them to turn on the hot water for me in the mornings if I want to take a shower before like 8 am when they turn it on by default. And usually by 3 pm it's turned off again. Maybe that is where he got the idea of cutting the hot water on and off.Lots of lower end hotels in LatAm only offer hot water at certain times of the day. They turn the central boiler off. Peru is notorious for that. I wonder if that really saves gas vs. Firing up again. Dunno. In Buenos Aires the "chinos" (smaller Asian owned grocery stores) liked to turn the refrigerators off at night, which is scary, and I also wonder if that really saves electricity. Dunno. Maybe. I had no hot water when I lived in Medellin and I got used to it. To be honest, I had never run into that before so I just "assumed" any apartment anywhere would have hot water. In Mexico and Argentina they did. Shoulda checked but did not. Here in Guate I have the "suicide shower" as we call those things, but no hot water at the sinks. I just use a little bleach when I wash dishes. But for sure in Colombia if you have an on demand system the women might cut you a deal just for the hot water.

Nounce
03-26-23, 13:16
I agree. One has to laugh at people who brag about how good their hooker is, on a hooker forum with other mongers.

Even when they do post a picture, it's usually some average woman that many mongers wouldn't be interested in because they are a dime a dozen.It's just a label. Elvis does not consider her a hooker. Is a woman a hooker because you are the only person ever pay for her? Even if she is a regular hooker, it's his choice, his money. Even if you think he is dumb, I have respect for his foolishness, his loyalty, and being able to withstand all the attacks here.

Villainy
03-26-23, 13:58
As much as you put your jet owning multi millionaires pursued gal on a pedestal LOL, you would think you would not have a problem linking her social media or at least share a picture of this drop dead gorgeous so we could see for ourselves what you're always talking about LOL. By the way does your elite GF know you constantly talk about her on almost a daily basis on a hooker forum? LOL.Well let's remember some of the contradictions: (Elvis wrote every one of these statements (unless it is clearly identified as my opinion)).

His hooker girlfriend is a Colombian elite. She got knocked up and the baby-daddy fled the scene.

She was never a sex worker. She was advertising her "availability" on Seeking Arrangement. (afterall, all the Colombian elites do that).

She completed her education and got a government job. Elvis is supporting her until she finds a job.

She and all her "elites" were terrified of Petro and wanted to leave the country if he was elected. She is sophisticated enough to be on the President of Colombia's arm.

She is a "10" and stops traffic. My speculation is that she stops traffic like a traffic cop so that her obese sugar-Elvis can waddle across the street.

So why is it that Elvis has never posted photos or the social media links?

1. Perhaps she is only a "10" in his imagination and if the world saw her pictures, well the lie would be uncovered.

2. Perhaps he is deathly afraid that there will be a chorus of "Oh, that is Sofia. I nailed her 2 nights running in Cartagena last summer. " Or something similar.

3. Of course, one can't discount the possibility that she is just a figment of his imagination.

JjBee62
03-26-23, 15:36
Lots of lower end hotels in LatAm only offer hot water at certain times of the day. They turn the central boiler off. Peru is notorious for that. I wonder if that really saves gas vs. Firing up again. Dunno. In Buenos Aires the "chinos" (smaller Asian owned grocery stores) liked to turn the refrigerators off at night, which is scary, and I also wonder if that really saves electricity. Dunno. Maybe. I had no hot water when I lived in Medellin and I got used to it. To be honest, I had never run into that before so I just "assumed" any apartment anywhere would have hot water. In Mexico and Argentina they did. Shoulda checked but did not. Here in Guate I have the "suicide shower" as we call those things, but no hot water at the sinks. I just use a little bleach when I wash dishes. But for sure in Colombia if you have an on demand system the women might cut you a deal just for the hot water.I was in a hotel in Bogota that had a solar hot water heater. The tank would hold enough to last until 8-9 pm, after that, cold showers until after 6 am.

Same with me, when I walked through the apartment. Never thought to look for the water heater, until I moved in and took my first shower. Only the shower in the maid's nook had the "suicide shower" but it was cracked. Easy replacement, and I've done enough wiring that I wasn't worried.

Before someone complains because I mentioned "Maid's nook", it was a large, 3 bed apartment in an old building, better part of Laureles. Off the kitchen was a room, not much bigger than a closet, just enough room for a twin bed and small dresser, with its own small bathroom. The only reason it had hot water was because the breaker box was on the other side of the wall.

JjBee62
03-26-23, 16:16
The only thing consistent is you guys being fucking morons when it comes to money. You inflate Vi's hotel from $20 to $90. Then you brag about how little you spend on the lowlife women. "Hey, JJBee, I banged this centro wench for a $1 and a bottle of glue. " And you all are obsessed about the $4 bank fees. And somehow the most studly thing to do is mooch housing off a woman.

Of course, the Medellin morons financial advisor is Viliany, a guy bragging about his hotel and its 24 hour receptionist and hot towels. Until his government checks came in, I guess he was staying at motels with hourly rates. I guess those towels come in handy when he is looking at the Marriott beating off, "Some day, I will be staying there. Some day. ".

And V worked in the securities industries, and unless he was mopping the floors, he was vastly underqualified to work there. Anyone can look at his record on investing and see that. Last year it was commercial real estate and this year, it is the banks.

So V thinks he has me. V, why the fuck would I spend anywhere from $500 to $1000 on a plane ticket to see a woman who would be at work all day getting paid $500 a month? I made $30,000 last year just screwing around in the market part time. That is enough to support her for five years. And as stupid as the market has been lately, I expect to do even better this year.

And when I meant my gal would go to work and was talking about her coming to the USA, do you think I meant the $500 a month in Colombia or making $5000 a month in the USAA working when I was working V? Be careful. It could be a trick question.

After getting your ass kicked in the market and after being exposed as being in a La Quinta type hotel, and after Paulie made fun of you about your line about staying in the "great luxury hotels", I would think if you had any common sense or humility, you would shut the fuck up, but I know better. You are a fucking narcissist without a drop of humility in your body.Definitely off the meds. You know it's not good for you.

Let's start with a challenge. Show me proof that you can rent a deluxe room at Hotel Dorado La 70 for $20 and I'll send you $1,000. I said I thought I had paid $90, but when I checked and posted proof, it turned out to be 483 k, about $110 on May 5, 2022. That was for a deluxe room. I also showed that the cheapest room rate for that hotel right now is $42 per night. If you choose your dates and book ahead you could get a slightly better rate, for a basic room.

It's funny that you compare it to LaQuinta. Google lists both hotels as 4 star hotels. Only problem with La Quinta in Medellin is that it's on Las Palmas, a long taxi ride to anywhere. Dorado La 70 is a short, flat walk to everything. The real surprise came when I looked at La Quinta for tomorrow night on Booking. Both 4 star, only 0. 1 better customer rating for La Quinta, but La Quinta wants $168 for a room, Dorado wants 340 k.

So you, Mr "I made $30,000 last year", the world's most savvy investor, believe, for 2 hotels which you claim are equal, it makes more sense to pay $168 per night instead of $72 per night. Or, if there was any truth to your claim that it's a $20 night room, getting a room equal to a $168 per night room is pure fucking genius.

It was fun reading through the rest of your silliness. You made $30,000 last year and when you were working you made $5,000 per month? That's big money. It's understandable why you need so many lawyers to keep her from getting half. I literally can't find a job as a truck driver that pays $5000 per month. These days, that's nearly impossible to find. About $6000 is the cheapest anyone is paying now, and those are the crappiest jobs with worn out equipment.

JjBee62
03-26-23, 17:29
No, you cry about getting dumped on social media to try to suck money out of people by playing the victim.Here's the problem when you just get your information from Paulie, it's almost guaranteed to be 100% wrong. You should have picked that up after your "Paulie was the best friend ever" fiasco. I posted about the events after they happened, told the basic story on Facebook. Never asked for nor received money, just a plane ticket.


Never said I was an alpha male nor daughter was a 10. You have built so many straw men you are a fire hazard.So I was right about the dementia? Technically you never said your old lady's daughter was a 10. You called her mother a 10, then said:


I want you to fast forward four years and imagine you are me. My gal's daughter turns 18 then. She is top of her class. She has her mother's figure and is tall and slender, and she works out 3 hours a day, and she is an art whiz and is self taught on the piano and plays very well. She wants to be a doctor and every sign says she has the smarts and work ethic to be one.
You really shouldn't make sexual comparisons between a 14 year old girl and her mother.


As for being worthy, when you are with a woman who stops traffic and is sophisticated enough to be on the president of Colombia's arm. , it begs the question, "And what is she doing with me?" That is when the question of worthiness arises, but now I see why you do not get it given the kind of women you run with.Your old lady is a traffic cop who gave a ticket to the President of Colombia and then got a selfie with him? You did say it was a government job.

You remind me of an old friend. She was sophisticated enough to attend the Oscar's every year, with her boyfriend, a Producer. She had a 2 year old 500 SL, mink coats and a bunch of diamonds. Shortly before I met her she was Personal Assistant to one of the elitest of the elite A-List actors. Then her boss caught her dipping into his cocaine.

I never asked "what's she doing with me. " I knew then and I know now my self worth. If you can only measure your value in dollars, you have no value.


I heard of the Colombian class system when I first went to Colombia long ago. You told me nothing I did not already know. Like everything else, you state the obvious and proclaim yourself a genius. Maybe you should write 10 pages on that too.

Paulie says you are obsessed with this system, and you make it out to be as daunting as nuclear physics. Why? To impress people with your "solid" strata 4 girl? You pulled the same inflated image crap with Viliany's "La Qunita" hotel.I did say you probably still don't understand it. Thanks for proving my point.

There are no "estrato 4" or "estrato 6" girls. The estrato system is similar to a township tax assessment. Depending on where you live in a county you pay a different tax rate. I live less than a mile from where I lived before, but I'm in a different township in a different county and pay less in taxes.

Every city in Colombia is mapped out based upon average income and assigned a rating, 1 to 6. The estrato is used to determine the subsidies applied to basic services. Things like water, gas, electricity are cheaper the lower the estrato.

There are people well below the poverty line living in estrato 6 areas, and people's with high incomes living in estrato 1 zones. Paulie or you made some comment about my girl being from Manrique or Bello and I pointed out that she lived within an estrato 4 sector of Envigado. Had I been bragging I'd have claimed she lived less than mile away in an estrato 6 area.


When you say committed, did you mean you were both in a mental institution? That is the only way the term committed makes sense.

Not for women. If she does not care that you are fucking other women, then she does not really care that much about you.

Yeah, no sane woman would ever believe you could be faithful.I'm not limited to 2 dimensional thinking. I recognize that sex is just a biological function. We used it to greatly enhance our pleasure. Of course, someone like you with debilitating insecurity issues, could never fuck in front of 50 people, or kick back and chat with the guys while their 4 wives are busy giving your girl a birthday present (1 eating her, 1 on each breast and 1 making out with her while she fingered 2 of them). People in the swinger lifestyle laugh at people having vanilla sex. You talk about having a harem, but freak out over any of them knowing you had other women? Shit, my wife would go to the bathroom at a swingers club and come out with someone for me to fuck. I'd come home for work and she would tell me she found a unicorn and asked if she could invite her over (to swingers, a unicorn is a single, bisexual woman).


Or whatever? Why do you guys do this? Mr. E is fucking everything that walks while having a "girlfriend". Huacho has this 50 something toothless ex-ho he calls GF and you have a SB you are saying is a GF. WTF?We do this because there are a few people, like yourself, who insists on altering reality to fit their tiny view of the world. I call her "girlfriend", which should be sufficient. What you call her is up to you.


I didn't "call them in" but why would you use lawyers? You have nothing to protect, but your fianc should to protect herself from your mountains of debt.What debt? I don't have any significant debt, other than my car payment. At 1. 9%it just doesn't make sense to not take it. I'm also carrying a small amount at 0% for 2 years, from when I replaced my living room furniture last year. I fucked up on that one. I had 2 years to pay it, but I'll have it cleared well before 1 year is up. That's it. Pretty typical of you, making a mountain out of a molehill.

And I don't have a fiancee. That requires a commitment to marriage. That's definitely not on my agenda.


"First world lifestyle" sounds like a line you feed women in your centro dive bars.

Maybe once a week I wish there was something in Colombia I had from the USA. Outside of my gal and her daughter, my life is 99% the same in Colombia as the USA.

And I bet my gal lives better in Colombia than your "first world" lifestyle.

I am already the family provider, and marriage is the way for us to get more time together. Nothing more. My primary concern was the kind of Democratic douche judge you know and love who would void a contract and rule that my gal was entitled to half if things did not work.

As for the strip clubs, yeah, that would be a problem with your sugar baby not my gal. She has already been pursued by jet owning multi millionaires. I bet most of the women you are with have never been on a plane.

It is true that your "solid 4" SB is an upgrade from your usual, the ghetto dwelling, glue sniffers of El Centro you pay off with food stamps. But when you say guys here cannot date the elite, you are making my point. You do not think you are worthy of dating an elite woman like my gal, and I agree. You losers need to quit trying to compete with your "girlfriends" and be happy with your multiple skanks.That's all I have time for now. Time to go to work.

$5000 per month Hahahaha.

Elvis 2008
03-26-23, 21:09
I agree. One has to laugh at people who brag about how good their hooker is, on a hooker forum with other mongers..Oh, okay, and that is not the goal? That is not winning, having all your needs sexually satisfied? I have probably said a million times guys who strive for that should have multiple women not one, because it is so rare for one woman to do it but if your goal is not to be sexually satisficed, WTF are you doing here?


Even when they do post a picture, it's usually some average woman that many mongers wouldn't be interested in because they are a dime a dozen.At this point, there is so much jealousy I could post a pic of an unknown most beautiful women in the world, and you would be like, "Eh, she is average. " There is no way someone as arrogant as you would admit to being wrong.

And she has been called every name in the book. I say, "No, it is like this" and now I have to hear how much I constantly bring her up. LOL. The only reason guys are knocking her is they know she really is a 10 and are jealous as fuck. Unlike other guys, I have never lied about the quality of women I see.

The funny part about the hooker lingo is IMO all women have an expectation of reimbursement with sex. Why should they not want to be compensated for something of value?

IMO the only difference between a hooker and normal woman is a hooker will have sex with anyone for money.

IMO most men who are getting it "for free" are stringing the woman along with promises of a future payout. Often these guys spend huge $ on cars and clothes just to believe they are not paying for it.

And they have this fantasy land of virgins who only care for you and not money. I have never seen such a land, but I swear to God we got guys so delusional about this fantasy land of virgins, they would swear their mothers are virgins.

And it is like guys do not even get why women go with guys with money to begin with. Women seek out men with money because they are not desirable when pregnant and are basically helpless when with an infant and need a male provider.

Please show me your saintly pool of desirable virgin women who do not care about being financially cared for. And if you cannot do that, what is the point of your calling a woman seeing only one man a hooker? I mean, outside of your being an asshole?

Elvis 2008
03-26-23, 21:48
I just date normal women. They only have to be attractive to me. No Olympic champions, no Miss Colombia's, no playthings for billionaires. Just normal women.That is not by choice, Mr. Truck Driver.

I didn't say billionaires, but all of my hotter American sugar babies have been pursued by rich people and famous athletes. If a woman is a 10, she is going to be hit on by most everyone. Duh. It is just a question of the company she is with at the time.


Pretty soon she'll have been the only Colombian to land on the moon, trip financed by the world's wealthiest men, just for the privilege of having hee smile at them. I'm pretty sure she's won at least 8 Nobel prizes and sells used panties for $3 million per pair.You are just confirming how ugly the women you see are. A 10 gets hit on by everyone. It is obvious you have never been around one.


Elvis has an insecurity problem that is bigger than his weight problem. It's always like that. Originally, she told Elvis that if he wanted to see her, he had to give $500 a month, to cover the money she would make if she moved and took a job. Now she's dancing Salsa with the President of Colombia and turning down dates with private jet owning millionaires.If I am the insecure one, why do you keep lying? There was no ultimatum. She was given a job in a town where it would be hard for me to see her, and she was depressed about it. I asked her how much her job was paying and covered her salary. Paying her was my idea, and this was six months after we started dating.

And you were making fun of my phrase of being worthy of a woman. Well, yeah, what guy is going to be insecure with the glue sniffer centro rats you see? OTOH, you got a woman who stops traffic and appears to be nuts about you, and it is natural to ask, "Uh, why are you interested in me?" because such a woman so often has secondary motives.

You make fun of the phrase being worthy of a woman because you have never been with a woman whose beauty and class is that intimidating.

And now you are saying you just date normal women? No shit.

But there are other guys on here who want to do better than that, and yet you are such a narcissist you cannot believe anyone could do better than you. I repeat, you are the insecure one. Narcissists like yourself cannot stand guys doing better than you.

MiamiBoy1
03-27-23, 01:05
Says the man that met his girlfriend on an actual sugar baby website and takes care of her like one. WTF is right! I guess she got what she literally signed up for.It doesn't matter where he met her or what she did for living before. What matters is what happens after. Is the relationship exclusive and genuine? Do they see themselves together in 5 years, 10 years, or for the rest of their lives? And it is totally fine for a man to take care of his girlfriend, wife, or his family, don't you think? You probably won't understand, because you fuck your $35 hookers, whom your call "girlfriends". BTW, what's up with this trend of calling hookers "girlfriends"? Some of you guys are being delusional, they are not your girlfriends, take the money or any benefits they got from you out of the equation and see how long this "relationship" will last. Don't tell me BS about dating or a genuine relationship with a girl who could be your granddaughter, I'm not buying it.

Mr Enternational
03-27-23, 03:12
You probably won't understand, because you fuck your $35 hookers, whom your call "girlfriends". BTW, what's up with this trend of calling hookers "girlfriends"? Some of you guys are being delusional, they are not your girlfriends, take the money or any benefits they got from you out of the equation and see how long this "relationship" will last. You must have the wrong person. I have never referred to anyone that I give money to as a girlfriend, and I especially would not do it if I was paying her rent every month. I have always said on this forum that if you want to know how someone really feels about you then show up without money. I can do that with a girlfriend. A hooker is performing a service that I pay for. I can say with 100% certainty that I have never had a girlfriend that wanted me for money, because I have never given money to girlfriends.

The other night a barber chick met up with me when I was having dinner. The next day in our chat it came out that her idea of boyfriend was someone that gives money. So that is to say that when I run out of money, then I run out of girlfriend. Her dumb ass is going to tell me that is why I do not have a woman, because I am not coming off of any money. Well bih I have plenty of women that I do not have to give money to. As a matter of fact I just came from an island vacation with one an hour before she met up with me. Her blind ass can not see that she does not have a boyfriend because evidently she is having a hard time finding an Elvis to pay her rent every month. I guess that shit is easier said than done.

For me variety is the spice of life. Being so, I am not going to give the same chick $500 per month for her to be my "girlfriend" when I can pay a different chick $35 every 2 days to fuck. But that is just me.

P.S. There is a hooker in my bed right now that insisted to come over for free. I did not want company so I told her I did not have any money. But she insisted she wanted to come sleep over. Delusional broad thinking I do not have anyone because I will not give money. I pay chicks because I want to, not because I have to.

Mr Enternational
03-27-23, 09:24
Don't tell me BS about dating or a genuine relationship with a girl who could be your granddaughter, I'm not buying it.LOL. I am 50 and my grandkids are 5, so that definitely is not me. I am not a guy that seeks out barely legal chicks. I meet people that I like and that like me, and not because they fit within a certain age range. But I am not a guy trying to date Madonna or Cher; I don't care how much money they have.

Huacho
03-27-23, 12:14
I'm still waiting for pussy whipped simping Elvis to come up with where I ever talked about a girl friend or any dental issues. But that got me thinking about about dental issues and an argie hooker who had a removable upper plate. I knew her for a couple of years and one night she left the bathroom door open and I saw her brushing the plate. She saw me seeing and it was kind of an "okay so now you know this" moment. In the instant, I knew and she knew what it meant: I would eventually ask her to take out the plate for better blow jobs. I waited a gentlemanly length of time, three or four sessions more, and brought it up. No. Saw her for a few more years, never did get it. But my point is, don't underrate toothless hookers. They have their advantages.

Nounce
03-27-23, 12:41
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If I am the insecure one, why do you keep lying? There was no ultimatum. She was given a job in a town where it would be hard for me to see her, and she was depressed about it. I asked her how much her job was paying and covered her salary. Paying her was my idea, and this was six months after we started dating.

And you were making fun of my phrase of being worthy of a woman. Well, yeah, what guy is going to be insecure with the glue sniffer centro rats you see? OTOH, you got a woman who stops traffic and appears to be nuts about you, and it is natural to ask, "Uh, why are you interested in me?" because such a woman so often has secondary motives.....I think the problem is you and some that share your view associate money spent and wealth with the women, and being able to date these women seem to make you superior. Guys like that raving about how much they spent, how hot the girls are but the reports always lack substance. From my point of view, I think it is shallow. If you look at the top 10 billionaires, do most of them date or marry the most beautiful women? Why do you keep disparaging the centro hookers? At least they hold a job and trying to make a living. Does that mean something to you? Does it mean a hooker that charges USD200 deserves more respect than a hooker that charges US $10?

About buying drinks. You will never see me buying drinks for the 10 that everybody wants to buy drink for because I have no interest to be like everybody.

The elites that I know have a job waiting for them by the time they graduate from college. When someone is from an elite family, that person would not have problem getting a job simply from family connection.

JjBee62
03-27-23, 16:39
That is not by choice, Mr. Truck Driver.

I didn't say billionaires, but all of my hotter American sugar babies have been pursued by rich people and famous athletes. If a woman is a 10, she is going to be hit on by most everyone. Duh. It is just a question of the company she is with at the time.

You are just confirming how ugly the women you see are. A 10 gets hit on by everyone. It is obvious you have never been around one.

If I am the insecure one, why do you keep lying? There was no ultimatum. She was given a job in a town where it would be hard for me to see her, and she was depressed about it. I asked her how much her job was paying and covered her salary. Paying her was my idea, and this was six months after we started dating..You got one thing right. I've never been with a woman who intimidated me. I'm not intimidated by women, regardless of their position, wealth, class, or power.

You think a woman is intimidating because she's beautiful? That's pathetic. She's just a woman. Her beauty is meaningless. If she relies upon it to get through life, she's no better than the one-legged man begging for change on the street. She's hopping through life on a crutch, looking for charity.

Unless you want to live as a submissive, a slave to a woman, it's the woman who has to be worthy of you. As you said elsewhere, when she's pregnant and shortly after giving birth, she's mostly helpless. If she's not worthy of being sheltered, protected and cared for, she's on her own.

As I said, I know my own value.

You keep calling everyone a narcissist. I don't think you know what it means. Or you do know but you're following the first rule of the narcissist club: "I'm not a narcissist, you're a narcissist. ".

I can't stand guys doing better than me? Nobody is doing better than me. And I'm not doing better than anyone else. This is a concept that clearly defines who is a narcissist.

When I go out to eat, I am eating for me. I'm not looking at what everyone else is eating and wondering if they are eating better. When I get in my car, it's just my car. Nobody else's car is on my mind. I don't care if someone has a better car. I don't care if someone has better clothes, lives in a better place.

When I'm with a woman it's the same thing. She only needs to be attractive to me. I'm not looking around to see if someone else has a better looking girl. Whether your woman is so beautiful she'd give Michelangelo an erection, or she's a typical middle aged Colombian woman doesn't matter. I'm not fucking her, have no desire to fuck her and don't care who is fucking her.

We went through this a few months ago when, put of the blue you accused me of claiming I was superior to everyone. You constantly accuse everyone of being arrogant. You make up ridiculous stories about everyone believing in a land of virgins and every day exaggerate more and more about your girl.

If you remember, you posted some pictures of girls in your harem. The first was attractive, by Colombian standards, nothing spectacular. She was (if I remember correctly) wearing a one piece bathing suit and had a sash like a beauty contestant. The picture was standing in dirt with what looked like a bar in the background. I believe you claimed she was a Miss Colombia runner-up. Strange that they hold the Miss Colombia competition in a dirt lot outside a cheap bar.

The second photo showed 2 girls facing a beach. Not a world class beach, the type of beach poor Mexicans and Colombians go to. The picture was taken from a distance behind the girls. Quite obviously it was taken without their knowledge. The girl on the right looked to have a good body, but the girl on the left was curvy, not fat, just big hips, big thighs. You claimed they were both your girls and that the curvy one had 0% body fat. Remember that one? I challenged you to show a real picture of them, taken with their knowledge and you stopped posting pictures.

There are only a few people on ISG claiming they are getting better girls than everyone else and I'm not one of them.

Elvis 2008
03-27-23, 20:27
I think the problem is you and some that share your view associate money spent and wealth with the women, and being able to date these women seem to make you superior. Guys like that raving about how much they spent, how hot the girls are but the reports always lack substance.Sorry, Nounce, I did not know who was pursuing her for months after I met her. What was shocking to me was how many not so attractive women were pursued by men of wealth, fame, and power. It was actually a friend who said "Every decent looking woman has been pursued by a famous athlete. ".


IFrom my point of view, I think it is shallow. If you look at the top 10 billionaires, do most of them date or marry the most beautiful women?.I do not know or care. What I think is you have the image of billionaires getting whomever they want. I have seen the opposite. I have been stunned at how underconfident some are.


Why do you keep disparaging the centro hookers?I am not. I am disparaging the men who are trying to equate them with hotties who are GF / wife material. I said on average sexually speaking the Santa Fe / El Centro type were better sexually than the seeking types. Of course, if a seeking type was lousy in bed, I would not repeat.


About buying drinks. You will never see me buying drinks for the 10 that everybody wants to buy drink for because I have no interest to be like everybody.Then the only 10 you are going to meet is a hooker who would fuck anyone for money, and I think you are taking this too literally. When I say everyone wants to buy her a drink, what I mean is guys are coming onto her day and night. How do you sell yourself such that she thinks of you as a worthy suitor? Saying you do not care is bullshit Nounce. Every guy in the world wants a 10 who thinks they are the shit. Your saying you do not want to compete is just fear based on rejection that probably stems from a previous painful relationship. Go ahead and get pissed at me, but I know what I am talking about.

Money can buy you looks; it can buy great sex. What it cannot buy is true desire; that comes from personality and later character. Of course, women are going to be attracted to confident men, and be desirable towards them. Thing about confidence is whether or not that confidence truly reflects ability and character and when you have guys like JJBee and Viliany, eventually the women are going to see their confidence is based on narcissism and dump them.

What you do not get about narcissists is their confidence game. With fellow men, they try to get them to feel as they are in some special, misunderstood group, and it is attractive. Who does not want to feel part of a special group? Thing is once you get sucked in they have you, and you will do anything to prove you belong to their special group, and you obviously have been sucked in by guys like these two and their language.

The one good thing about the mentally ill like these two is their lack of originality. What is their shaming technique? People in the group are laughing at you. JJbee just used it. We swingers are laughing at you guys and your vanilla sex lives. Is that is what is going on? Or are swingers hiding their lifestyles, married people fucking everything that moves, from society?

My confidence and hold on reality means the narcissistic jedi mind tricks do not work. The same goes with Miami Boy but not you. JJBee comes forward with the most disgusting marriage I have ever heard of and then tries to redefine what a GF is and you swallow it whole.

Elvis 2008
03-27-23, 21:33
Here's the problem when you just get your information from Paulie, it's almost guaranteed to be 100% wrong.That is lie #1.


Technically you never said your old lady's daughter was a 10.And you are admitting lie #2.


You really shouldn't make sexual comparisons between a 14 year old girl and her mother.Saying a woman is tall and slim like her mother has nothing to do with sex. Lie #3.


She was sophisticated enough to attend the Oscar's every yearTickets to the Oscars are $750 apiece. That has zero to do with being sophisticated. Lie #4.


Shortly before I met her she was Personal Assistant to one of the elitest of the elite A-List actors. Then her boss caught her dipping into his cocaine.On what planet is a lying, law breaking, disgraced, cocaine snorting, fired personal assistant peon fit to be first lady of a country? Lie #5.


If you can only measure your value in dollars, you have no value..You claimed I was making $5000 a month. Lie #6. Then you made value based judgments on salary. Lie #7.


If There are no "estrato 4" or "estrato 6" girls. Paulie or you made some comment about my girl being from Manrique or Bello and I pointed out that she lived within an estrato 4 sector of Envigado.This one gets a double point bonus. You make a statement and then lie about it in the next paragraph. That is 8 and 9.


If TI'm not limited to 2 dimensional thinking. I recognize that sex is just a biological function.Lie #10. Sex has huge emotional and societal implications.


If Of course, someone like you with debilitating insecurity issues, could never fuck in front of 50 people, or kick backThat is lie #11. I do not have insecurity issues and do not get off like you do on getting attention. If you are married and care more about how you look fucking someone on stage than your wife's physical and emotional needs, you have no clue what the duties of a husband are.


and chat with the guys while their 4 wives are busy giving your girl a birthday present (1 eating her, 1 on each breast and 1 making out with her while she fingered 2 of them). People in the swinger lifestyle laugh at people having vanilla sex. You talk about having a harem, but freak out over any of them knowing you had other women? Shit, my wife would go to the bathroom at a swingers club and come out with someone for me to fuck. I'd come home for work and she would tell me she found a unicorn and asked if she could invite her over (to swingers, a unicorn is a single, bisexual woman).Lie #13 is this whole fucked up think you call "marriage". I am shocked, shocked it did not last. / sarc.


We do this because there are a few people, like yourself, who insists on altering reality to fit their tiny view of the world. I call her "girlfriend", which should be sufficient. What you call her is up to you..Lie #14 is you have a girlfriend.


You made $30,000 last year and when you were working you made $5,000 per month?$5000 a month is what I said my woman will make when she comes to the USA. That you did not understand that just means you are stupid not lying. Saying I make $5000 a month is a lie but I already counted it.

I am going to call my making $30,000 a lie because you are trying to say that is all I had. To make $30,000 in the market, you have to put money, usually much more to work. Again, it is possible that you are so stupid and have never invested in the market in your life, but I am going to give you a break and call you a liar instead of stupid. So that is lie #15.


I'm not intimidated by women, regardless of their position, wealth, class, or power.Sorry, you already said the photos of the women I post are meant to intimidate. Lie #16.


Her beauty is meaningless. Lie #17. No explanation needed.


Unless you want to live as a submissive, a slave to a woman, it's the woman who has to be worthy of you. As you said elsewhere, when she's pregnant and shortly after giving birth, she's mostly helpless. Lie #18. You are confusing the courtship phase and commitment phase of relationships.


I can't stand guys doing better than me? Nobody is doing better than me. And I'm not doing better than anyone else.Lie #19. This is bullshit that makes no sense in an attempt to be profound.


When I go out to eat, I am eating for me. I'm not looking at what everyone else is eating and wondering if they are eating better. When I get in my car, it's just my car. Nobody else's car is on my mind. I don't care if someone has a better car. I don't care if someone has better clothes, lives in a better place.

When I'm with a woman it's the same thing.This is the same one as women do not intimidate me. Sorry, you already admitted that other people's women intimidate you and now you are saying you do not care again. Lie #20.


Whether your woman is so beautiful she'd give Michelangelo an erection, or she's a typical middle aged Colombian woman doesn't matter.Repeat lie of beauty does not matter. #21.


If you remember, you posted some pictures of girls in your harem. The first was attractive, by Colombian standards, nothing spectacular. She was (if I remember correctly) wearing a one piece bathing suit and had a sash like a beauty contestant. The picture was standing in dirt with what looked like a bar in the background. I believe you claimed she was a Miss Colombia runner-up.We will go with faulty memory versus lie. She was not a member of my harem. She was Miss Cartagena. The pageant was in El Centro and her name was in lights in one of the photos, and I never said she was a great beauty, but anyone with a title like that is going to be sought after.


The second photo showed 2 girls facing a beach. Not a world class beach, the type of beach poor Mexicans and Colombians go to.Rate on that hotel now is $444 a night. Again, I will go with stupid versus lie. I got it at a great discount during Covid when you were scared shitless in your mom's basement.


There are only a few people on ISG claiming they are getting better girls than everyone else.Lie #22. No explanation needed.

3 posts, 22 lies, and two dumb as shit comments. And I am the one insecure? Your posts just prove you are a stupid, lying narcissist.


There are only a few people on ISG claiming they are getting better girls than everyone else. and I'm not one of them.I am tempted to say this is the ONLY example of a true statement you wrote but IMO it is just fake humility in an attempt to bullshit.

JjBee62
03-27-23, 22:18
It doesn't matter where he met her or what she did for living before. What matters is what happens after. Is the relationship exclusive and genuine? Do they see themselves together in 5 years, 10 years, or for the rest of their lives? And it is totally fine for a man to take care of his girlfriend, wife, or his family, don't you think? You probably won't understand, because you fuck your $35 hookers, whom your call "girlfriends". BTW, what's up with this trend of calling hookers "girlfriends"? Some of you guys are being delusional, they are not your girlfriends, take the money or any benefits they got from you out of the equation and see how long this "relationship" will last. Don't tell me BS about dating or a genuine relationship with a girl who could be your granddaughter, I'm not buying it.It doesn't matter whether or not you buy it, and not only because you're irrelevant. I've got some time to explain it. I'll start with Elvis.

Elvis has a woman who is around 20 years younger than him, maybe more. He's convinced that she loves him, so convinced he's talking about marrying her and taking on the responsibility of raising her daughter. As long as he's convinced that she loves him, that his relationship is real, then he has a relationship. It doesn't matter if she's just using him, or if she secretly is disgusted by him. As long as she keeps him convinced of her love, it's all sunshine and rainbows.

Elvis's only mistake is trying to convince everyone of the perfection of his woman and his relationship. If he spent half the time on her as he spends trying to convince himself everyone is jealous of him, it would last forever.

Do you grasp that? As long as 2 people are each willing to put forth the effort to convince each other that they are happy together, they have a relationship. Whenever 1 or both stop putting forth the effort it crumbles and falls apart. That's the only significant thing.

If a girl young enough to be my granddaughter (in a world where a childless man can have a granddaughter) continues to convince me that she enjoys my company and is eager to be with me, while I convince her that I'm satisfied with her company, then it works.

That's all that matters. Nothing I do, nothing she does, requires your approval.

Iguana Six
03-28-23, 07:26
I came across the current back and forth a couple of weeks ago, and when I checked back in this morning, I saw it was still going on.

Anthony2023
03-28-23, 11:40
I came across the current back and forth a couple of weeks ago, and when I checked back in this morning, I saw it was still going on.What would you suggest? Should we call a vote to have admins ban a couple guys?

Villainy
03-28-23, 13:28
I came across the current back and forth a couple of weeks ago, and when I checked back in this morning, I saw it was still going on.You did notice the name of the forum, yes? You were expecting an intellectual discussion of the bio-diversity in Colombia by region?

Assuming you are at least semi-literate you would probably recognize this paraphrase: Abandon all hope of normalcy, ye who enter here.

Gabacho
03-28-23, 17:55
What would you suggest? Should we call a vote to have admins ban a couple guys?I think the "stupid shit in medellíand" forum is serving its purpose. It's a place to keep all this shit so it doesn't flood the real medellin forum. This is exactly what it was created for.

LoveItHere69
03-28-23, 20:43
You did notice the name of the forum, yes? .This sub-forum is supposed to be about Stupid Stuff in Medellin. Example 1) This restaurant I know that leaves their condiments out at night and do not put in the refrigerator at night or ever. Example 2) I told a street girl that is she comes to Botero tomorrow that I wanted to be with her again. She asked for taxi money.

But instead guys write novels about why the other guy is stupid and we should all care for some reason. This has nothing to do with Medellin or what happens in Medellin.

I have never see so many guys trying to beat the hell out of a dead horse over and over and over again. Then do it again weeks or months later. The only positive thing I can say is at least you guys are not quitters.

JjBee62
03-29-23, 05:31
This sub-forum is supposed to be about Stupid Stuff in Medellin. Example 1) This restaurant I know that leaves their condiments out at night and do not put in the refrigerator at night or ever. Example 2) I told a street girl that is she comes to Botero tomorrow that I wanted to be with her again. She asked for taxi money.

But instead guys write novels about why the other guy is stupid and we should all care for some reason. This has nothing to do with Medellin or what happens in Medellin.

I have never see so many guys trying to beat the hell out of a dead horse over and over and over again. Then do it again weeks or months later. The only positive thing I can say is at least you guys are not quitters.Nope. This thread was created to move the bickering out of the Medellin thread. Same thing with the Stupid Shit in Bogota thread.

JustTK
03-31-23, 01:47
Those mfs who frequent El Centro to experience the culture and not for the hookers, why don't you travel to Somalia then? .Africa is my fave continent. But Somalia presents a language problem to me. I have to stick to those countries where English can get me understood.

JustTK
03-31-23, 01:49
Just like Jamie Foxx said about Jennifer Lopez. "J-Lo? I remember when it was Hey Ho!

If Shakira was a chick you knew growing up, you would not put that much value on her pussy. She would just be Shakira from down the street to you.
Haha. Plus you would have probably fkd her already anyway.

JustTK
03-31-23, 01:51
I was watching some youtube videos the other day of a cow going from farm to table. It looked really horrible and gross. I do not see why anyone would want to eat meat, but boy do I love me a ribeye steak.Can we choose better analogies please?

Gabacho
03-31-23, 05:04
Africa is my fave continent. But Somalia presents a language problem to me. I have to stick to those countries where English can get me understood.Madagascar looks like a cool place to monger. They speak French instead of Spanish. I think the money is similar in value to Colombian money. They have a forum on here with lots of guys posting that they monger in a place called nosy be. I think its cheaper even than Colombia. Guys report getting BBFS for like 15 k.

JustTK
03-31-23, 15:35
Madagascar looks like a cool place to monger. They speak French instead of Spanish. I think the money is similar in value to Colombian money. They have a forum on here with lots of guys posting that they monger in a place called nosy be. I think its cheaper even than Colombia. Guys report getting BBFS for like 15 k.Yeah, Nosy Be is the main tourist beach area of Madagascar. I never went mongering there myself. I went for scuba diving and chasing lemurs w an ex-GF. I can see how it could fit that bill though. Must be very low key though. At least when I was there, it was very quiet as a tourist destination, mostly French expats. Food was terrible, so that's another thing in common w Colombia.

Elvis 2008
03-31-23, 17:17
Is the relationship exclusive and genuine?But, but JJBee's relationships are not exclusive and real while mine are exclusive but not real. LOL. I want to post positively for a change. First off, MB when I mentioned a guy being worthy of a 10, I made the analogy of the woman with a line of guys out to buy her a drink, and did you see how practically every guy ran away from her? So we should not even start with the game of getting a 10. It looks like most guys are too chicken shit to even get up to the plate. As I have gotten older, I have learned to give myself pats on the back for things that are nothing. So pat yourself on the back MB for just getting up to bat. It seems like nothing but it is.

I am reading this book about the evolution of desire, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J16LJQ2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_o04?ie=UTF8&psc=1, and it tries to answer the age old question of what do women want, and they have a novel approach: they actually ask the women. LOL.

And what was listed was #1 is resources, #2 is social status which is affiliated with education, #3 is age, All these cueseconomic resources, social status, and older ageadd up to one thing: the ability to possess resources. But the possession of resources is not enough. Women also need men who possess traits that are likely to lead to the sustained acquisition of resources over time.

Listed next then is ambition and industriousness, dependability and stability, then intelligence, compatibility, and then finally, LOL, looks.

Then there were the deal breakers: Most deal breakers, however, are simply the inverses of the qualities that women desirelacking resources, drive, ambition, or status; lacking intelligence; being undependable or emotionally unstable; being small, weak, or feminine in appearance; being unhealthy or asymmetrical; being mean or cruel; and lacking love specifically for the woman doing the mate selecting.

Unlike the Covid crap, this is real, actual science. Now granted this is what women want in a partner not a one night stand but MB when I was your age, I though I was what women really wanted, but did not feel it. Also, I just did not do a good job of projecting confidence. Granted, I had an ex-wife keeping my ego down. I thought she was as good as I could get but obviously I could and did get way better.

This blonde was the first hooker / stripper type that I could have had as a SB. Deal with her is that I felt like it was too transactional. I just kept her on a P4 P leash and recommend you do that with those types of women.

The first real sugar baby is the red head in the black dress. Her friends called her Angie Everhart and she does have a striking resemblance to said super model. We were together for years and most of the time she was a 9 but she had a period where she had a BF trainer who pushed her to a 10 IMO. She was a wonderful conversationalist. Great personality. Best head ever. Good not great in the sack. Smart and athletic enough to get a big 12 scholarship.

We had good times together and great sex, but I felt she was way out of my league. After my divorce, I asked her hypothetically if she would be interested in dating me, and she told me yes but only if I gave up my other women which I refused to do. Even though I felt she was out of my league, the reality was the opposite.

Why did I feel that way? Because in my 20's, I was beaten up. Back then, all I had to offer women was my potential. Only way you are going to get decent women then without resources is looks and relationships based on looks do not last long.

So my lack of confidence was being beat up not just by the women but also the better looking and confident men but as you see here, when you go down the list you have to get to #8, intelligence, before JJBee checks a box. Does he act like that? Fuck no. There have been so many times the guys I meet who are uber confident are narcissists.

MB, I could make a case we are neck and neck on what women want, or you are even ahead, but I would get a woman over you solely on the basis of confidence. You think you have what women want and you do, but you do not know it and feel it. That is the difference but how do you get the confidence? Compliment yourself on the little things and that rack up successes. When I interview a sugar baby prospect, I focus on whether or not she meets what I want and if she does, then I will see if I can meet her needs. That way it may not feel like rejection if things do not work. Again, with some women, a billion is not enough but even with the 10's, you have to see if she is long term material.

Other reason I bring up Angie is she dated a male 10. She did what you wanted and showed up with him in a high end Ferrari at some club and everyone stared at her, and she loved it. Well, it turns out he got his money conning people and was put in jail. She had to fight off other women with a stick and after they broke up said, "I will never date a man better looking than me. " When I asked why, she said when you have a male 10, he really is never yours. It turns out he was fucking everything in site behind her back.

IMO unless you are the attention loving narcissists like JJBee and V who live to be the the center of attention the juice on said appearances is not worth the long term squeeze. People are going to try to knock you down and with appearance the joy goes down and people's expectations of you go up. And what got me with Angie was the thing you are most proud of is how you look and not what you have done? Do I really want that for a long term GF?

Elvis 2008
03-31-23, 17:36
It doesn't matter whether or not you buy it, and not only because you're irrelevant. I've got some time to explain it. I'll start with Elvis.

Elvis has a woman who is around 20 years younger than him, maybe more. He's convinced that she loves him, so convinced he's talking about marrying her and taking on the responsibility of raising her daughter. As long as he's convinced that she loves him, that his relationship is real, then he has a relationship. It doesn't matter if she's just using him, or if she secretly is disgusted by him. As long as she keeps him convinced of her love, it's all sunshine and rainbows.LOL. Like I said, I am reading this book on what women really want in a man, and I could say a lot of things about it or I could make it simple. Women do not want you.


Elvis's only mistake is trying to convince everyone of the perfection of his woman and his relationship. If he spent half the time on her as he spends trying to convince himself everyone is jealous of him, it would last forever.That is one way of looking at it. The correct one is you are completely crazy.


Do you grasp that? As long as 2 people are each willing to put forth the effort to convince each other that they are happy together, they have a relationship. Whenever 1 or both stop putting forth the effort it crumbles and falls apart. That's the only significant thing.
No, that is not how it works. Number one thing women look for in a man is provision of resources. You are saying it is happiness because you cannot provide resources and are full of shit.

Second thing you mention is women tell you that you have a great body. Again, that is not what is important. Women look at the health of the male and given your health and passing out everywhere, no desired or quality woman is going to invest in you once they know how you really are.

Early on, I needed some convincing. Why was this woman interested in me? She gave me some good answers but something was missing. There is a 20+ year difference in ages and she can obviously get younger and better I thought, but she held off on telling me she had a kid. Given her child's age and my ability to provision resources for her child, yeah, now the partnership and her choosing me made perfect sense. If she had a one year old or no kids, yeah, being with me made no sense.

As for women, outside of the cultures where there are very few men, 80+% of women will not marry someone unless they are in love, but that is something you will never have to worry about Mr. Truck Driver unless you find another stripper type to "marry".

I cannot believe I ever took you seriously. You are not just a loser but a crazy one at that.

Elvis 2008
03-31-23, 17:39
And first SB are here.

Huacho
03-31-23, 20:39
Yo Elvis, if you have truly found the woman and relationship you want, congratulations. But you do realize that most of just want to fuck and move on? That this is hooker board and not a lonely hearts' club? And that bragging is generally unattractive? And that most of us have enough money and aren't jealous of you in that regard? And that one characteristic of narcissists is that they routinely accuse others of being narcissists?

Oh, wait a minute; obviously you don't realize any of that. The technology does not currently exist to develop a machine that can be calibrated in large enough increments to measure how full of shit you are.

Gabacho
04-01-23, 09:38
And first SB are here.Are those your perfect 10/10's Elvis?? Are you sure they aren't trans LOL. ??

JjBee62
04-01-23, 15:34
Are those your perfect 10/10's Elvis?? Are you sure they aren't trans LOL. ??I joked before that I was dating 10's. Need to recalibrate the scale now. Apparently I'm dating 12's.

The funniest thing is that Elvis never posts a picture taken by Elvis. He posts pics pulled off Seeking, FB or Instagram, or photos girls send to potential customers.

MiamiBoy1
04-01-23, 22:05
And first SB are here.Elvis, what's the point of these photos? Nobody can properly assess these girls' looks, because the photos are low quality, small, and the blond's pic is heavily edited. Damn, if you guys want to post pics here, at least pick the ones of good quality and size, otherwise posting makes zero sense. Me personally, prior to meeting a girl, any girl, I always request multiple photos, selfies, full body, bikini, plus social media (instagram, FB, etc), and 9 out of 10 would look exactly like photos. If a girl sends me selfies only, I know she is fat.

BlueChange
04-01-23, 23:42
WHAT happend? Use to be I could get a great monhtly for 500-700 now its like 1200 for something in the same area.

Is this inflation or just the gringo tax for medellin.

Huacho
04-02-23, 00:11
WHAT happend? Use to be I could get a great monhtly for 500-700 now its like 1200 for something in the same area.

Is this inflation or just the gringo tax for medellin.Air BnB eats shit with a spoon. Use booking.com instead.

DramaFree11
04-02-23, 00:39
WHAT happend? Use to be I could get a great monhtly for 500-700 now its like 1200 for something in the same area.

Is this inflation or just the gringo tax for medellin.Both of he same thing happened in CDMX.

MiamiBoy1
04-02-23, 02:14
Air BnB eats shit with a spoon. Use booking.com instead.You won't save shit using booking. Prices went up because of the high demand. Doesn't matter what platform you use.

Huacho
04-02-23, 03:04
You won't save shit using booking. Prices went up because of the high demand. Doesn't matter what platform you use.Well, you sure will save money if you use it enough. I am "triple genius" level and routinely save 20-25% vs. The prices on Air Bnb or Kayak.

BlueChange
04-02-23, 19:49
Well, you sure will save money if you use it enough. I am "triple genius" level and routinely save 20-25% vs. The prices on Air Bnb or Kayak.Is it the same as apartments on airbnb or is it just hotels?

Without having that status how much are we looking for a monthly for entire place near el Tesoro.

Nounce
04-02-23, 20:11
Is it the same as apartments on airbnb or is it just hotels?... near el Tesoro.I would think the price for that area has increased significantly. Even San Peter has increased by a large percentage. Some hosts are not making good financial decision because I looked at some that I have stayed were available but with much higher prices. Some areas like they have an union that all priced similarly but mostly vacant. It's like some chicks sitting at home all week waiting for a 300 customer, instead of having a 200 customer each day when they can make more money.

Huacho
04-02-23, 20:35
Is it the same as apartments on airbnb or is it just hotels?

Without having that status how much are we looking for a monthly for entire place near el Tesoro.It has apartments as well as hotels. How much it costs depends on size, quality, location, etc. , just like any real estate anywhere in the world. Just go on there and have a look for yourself.

NoClue
04-03-23, 13:19
This sub-forum is supposed to be about Stupid Stuff in Medellin. Example 1) This restaurant I know that leaves their condiments out at night and do not put in the refrigerator at night or ever. Example 2) I told a street girl that is she comes to Botero tomorrow that I wanted to be with her again. She asked for taxi money.

But instead guys write novels about why the other guy is stupid and we should all care for some reason. This has nothing to do with Medellin or what happens in Medellin.

I have never see so many guys trying to beat the hell out of a dead horse over and over and over again. Then do it again weeks or months later. The only positive thing I can say is at least you guys are not quitters.This is one great post. LOL! On the last part. They are definitely not quitters.

Mr Enternational
04-03-23, 17:02
And first SB are here.Great April Fools joke Elvis. Potential Sugar Boy. LOL. You are a hoot.

Anthony2023
04-05-23, 08:19
You have time to read Amazon books but no time for the gym? So Pathetic. One thing for sure women don't want is a fat slob. So get up and workout! Stop being a girly man. But if you're too lazy to do that at least read a book about how to lose weight!

JustTK
04-05-23, 13:51
You have time to read Amazon books but no time for the gym? So Pathetic. One thing for sure women don't want is a fat slob. So get up and workout! Stop being a girly man. Conversely one could say thyat those that pump weights in the gym are emotionally insecure and immature, and have bought in to modern media marketing as to what you should do and be to be attractive, i.e. A consumerist sucker that they can make money off.

Anthony2023
04-06-23, 02:08
Conversely one could say thyat those that pump weights in the gym are emotionally insecure and immature, and have bought in to modern media marketing as to what you should do and be to be attractive, i.e. A consumerist sucker that they can make money off.What are you talking about? Working out is good for your physical and mental health period.

JustTK
04-06-23, 18:10
What are you talking about? Working out is good for your physical and mental health period.Aerobic exercise, yes. Pumping weights is for aesthetics / vanity.