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Iguana Six
05-19-24, 06:07
.....The Great Debates of the ISG Biomedical Division.
What did Rick tell Morty? "Give it up Morty. You are trying to sell tickets to the policeman's ball to a black teenager."
I'll check back in a week or so.
Not at all. You do not think many beliefs of yesteryear were based on the science of that day? So people just threw leaches on each other because they believed it would do something? No. The science of that day was enough to prove it would do what they were saying. Bayer / Monsanto are paying out millions and millions to settle medical claims against Roundup bcos it causes cancer, although their version of science and the one that the establishment scientists accepted as correct at the time, showed that it was safe.
I watched a very compelling discussion today about how the Polio epidemic was caused by DDT. Another pesticide. Scientists still deny this, although they prefer to burn up a strawman rather than confront the real claim (just as they do with COVID). It seems that a huge proportion of the worst illenesses facing mankind have been caused by man following the 'science'.
Bayer / Monsanto are paying out millions and millions to settle medical claims against Roundup bcos it causes cancer, although their version of science and the one that the establishment scientists accepted as correct at the time, showed that it was safe.
I watched a very compelling discussion today about how the Polio epidemic was caused by DDT. Another pesticide. Scientists still deny this, although they prefer to burn up a strawman rather than confront the real claim (just as they do with COVID). It seems that a huge proportion of the worst illenesses facing mankind have been caused by man following the 'science'.DDT was invented in 1874. First suspected case of polio was in 1773.
I'm not suggesting DDT is safe to put on your corn flakes, but it doesn't take much to argue against something that didn't yet exist causing something else.
Not at all. You do not think many beliefs of yesteryear were based on the science of that day? So people just threw leaches on each other because they believed it would do something? No. The science of that day was enough to prove it would do what they were saying. The same as some science of today is enough to prove some things that will be discredited in years to come. One day Pluto is a planet and the next day it is not. Pluto has not changed in billions of years, but science has.You have the cart before the horse. The science comes after the beliefs, either as an attempt to prove or contest the beliefs. At times, and we're in one of those times now, beliefs overthrow reason. We're just entering into a new dark age.
You do realize that leeches are still used in medicine and have several applications? Now there was a period when leeching was overprescribed for almost everything, but if you were in the Navy you surely remember when Ibuprofen was given out like Halloween candy (and not long before that it was Tylenol 3 with Codeine).
Perhaps a basic explanation of what science is could simplify the conversation.
Science is the use of observation and experimentation to determine the best possible answer using available data. Technically, science is always wrong, at least in hindsight, because we're always learning more and improving data collection.
Casa No Va
05-20-24, 04:33
DDT was invented in 1874. First suspected case of polio was in 1773.
I'm not suggesting DDT is safe to put on your corn flakes, but it doesn't take much to argue against something that didn't yet exist causing something else.Aristotle.
"The sign of an intelligent mind is some who can entertain and idea without having to accept it".
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/polio-pesticides-ddt-science/
DDT was invented in 1874. First suspected case of polio was in 1773.
I'm not suggesting DDT is safe to put on your corn flakes, but it doesn't take much to argue against something that didn't yet exist causing something else.Your response just illustrates my point JB. You assume you know the argument and it is too simple and then you ridicule it, but it is not that way at all. I can link the video if your interested. It is not an argument akin to that the COVID vax contains track and spy technology.
You also skip the significant point that science pointed to DDT being safe.
Your response just illustrates my point JB. You assume you know the argument and it is too simple and then you ridicule it, but it is not that way at all. I can link the video if your interested. It is not an argument akin to that the COVID vax contains track and spy technology.
You also skip the significant point that science pointed to DDT being safe.No ridicule. Just pointing out the obvious. Work on your phrasing. "DDT caused the polio epidemic. " If the virus already existed and was already causing polio, the most DDT could have done was facilitate the epidemic.
I'm not interested in watching a video. If you link the peer-reviewed study demonstrating the link between the epidemic and DDT, I'll look it over. As I've stated several times, there are no requirements for posted videos. Anyone can post anything. With comment filtering and blocking they can even control the responses. It's the educational equivalent of a dictatorship.
On the other hand, a study, submitted to publication and opened up to examination and criticism by members of the field of study, requires the scientist to be able to defend their research. It's how Andrew Wakefield was discredited. He falsified data for financial gain.
More problems with your phrasing on the last paragraph. Science didn't point to DDT being safe. A scientist first synthesized the compound. Later another scientist discovered it was an effective insecticide and it was widely and successfully used to combat malaria by killing mosquitoes. Scientists and health organizations determined, based upon the data available at that time, that the benefit of battling malaria outweighed the risks against humans.
Science, on the other hand kept collecting data. Science determined that the environmental impact of widespread DDT use outweighed the benefits and most usage has been banned for 50 years. Science has continued to examine human health effects to determine in what other ways DDT may be harmful.
It's crucial to understand the 3 elements involved. First there are scientists, people who are passionate about unraveling questions and finding answers. They generally are highly focused upon the path their research takes.
Next is Science itself, the methodology used by everyone to find solutions. You use Science finding girls. You've developed your methods, tested them and determined which ways work best for you. Your fellow scientists in the field of mongerology might disagree with your methodology or findings. Some might use the same methods but ignore the human risks, and seek out underaged, trafficked, abused or addicted women. The science isn't evil, but it's subject to abuse.
Which brings us to the third player, Capitalism. Scientists are both brilliant and ignorant. They often look only at potential benefits for humanity and overlook environmental risks, or opportunities for financial gain. Fortunately, Capitalism is there to save the day. Capitalism weighs the human cost against profits for shareholders. It's a brutal, but effective scale.
As an example, look at asbestos, incredibly useful and highly profitable. Capitalism jumped in and exploited all the benefits of asbestos and money was made. Fortunately, for them, asbestos related health issues generally take decades to manifest, plus decades more to isolate the cause. Meanwhile, Capitalism used scientists to find more profit from asbestos. Eventually, science catches up, asbestos use is regulated and the grandchildren of the earlier Capitalists lose part of their trust funds.
Part of survival is the ability to make decisions. Often a bad decision is better than no decision. When it comes to any of the subjects currently being discussed here, decisions were made, based upon available data. And yes, part of the data is always focused on profit. Looking at Covid, drastic measures were taken. Some were ineffective. Years from now, more will be known about the effectiveness of each. Long after we're both dead science might decide that nothing should have been done about Covid, or it might determine failure to react would have been disastrous.
Meanwhile this is just a frivolous debate for a few people, and an excuse to babble incoherently for others.
No ridicule. Just pointing out the obvious. Work on your phrasing. "DDT caused the polio epidemic. " If the virus already existed and was already causing polio, the most DDT could have done was facilitate the epidemic.
Next is Science itself, the methodology used by everyone to find solutions.
Which brings us to the third player, Capitalism. Scientists are both brilliant and ignorant. They often look only at potential benefits for humanity and overlook environmental risks, or opportunities for financial gain. Fortunately, Capitalism is there to save the day. Capitalism weighs the human cost against profits for shareholders. It's a brutal, but effective scale.
When I speak of 'science', I generally mean 'the science community in general'. As you agree it is often (but not always) wrong. As a species we seem to be very good at developing technology (scientific breakthroughs) but lag way behind in understanding its impact. The issue w the COVID discussion here, I think, is that you are willing to accept what one section of the scientific community is saying, the section that is corrupted by capitalism, and dismiss the skeptics. It seems your general leaning is on the wrong side of the fence on this one.
As far as the new hypothesis goes WRT polio – polio refers to a paralysis caused by inflammation at the base of the spine. The polio virus causes this, but so do various other things – the virus is far from unique in causing that. So when 'scientists' claim that they recorded polio in the 18th century – they mean that people were observed with this paralysis at that time. No doubt there were sufferers of paralysis at the time, but that does not mean that the virus caused it. And indeed, no scientist had the know-how to identify a virus at that time. So the new hypothesis is that the polio VIRUS arrived in the USA at the end of the 19th century along with the new and widespread use of DDT, thus causing the epidemic.
Note – a polio epidemic is not the same as polio. Just as COVID can exist without there being a COVID epidemic.
Mr Enternational
05-21-24, 13:49
When I speak of 'science', I generally mean 'the science community in general'. As you agree it is often (but not always) wrong. As a species we seem to be very good at developing technology (scientific breakthroughs) but lag way behind in understanding its impact. They understand. I think they just use more of a cross that bridge when we come to it approach. When cars came out they knew the engine exhaust gave off pollution. But at least we will not have to deal with all this horseshit everywhere anymore. When electric cars came out they knew how mining lithium for the batteries fucks up the environment and the miners. But at least we will not have to deal with this smog anymore.
Woke up to crazy rain this morning. Yesterday I got in my Uber just before a torrential downpour. Electricity was spotty and wifi was out for a few hours. If you're coming to Medellin soon, check the weather and bring your umbrella.
Iguana Six
05-21-24, 19:42
They understand. I think they just use more of a cross that bridge when we come to it approach. When cars came out they knew the engine exhaust gave off pollution. But at least we will not have to deal with all this horseshit everywhere anymore. When electric cars came out they knew how mining lithium for the batteries fucks up the environment and the miners. But at least we will not have to deal with this smog anymore.Electric vehicles are very dangerous, especially the ones made in China. They are prone to explode and set fires.
I came across this report recently.
"Russia is preparing to file a complaint against the Ukraine, accusing them of war crimes. The Ukraine, facing a shortage of bombs and artillery ammunition due to the US Congress' allowing a lapse in foreign aid, has made up for the shortfall by dropping Chinese electric vehicles from bombers and launching electric vehicle batteries from artillery and long range rockets. Ukrainian saboteurs have also parked Chinese electric vehicles near Russian ammunition depots, defense plants, and aerodromes and allowed them to catch fire spontaneously, starting fires that take fire fighters days to extinguish and releasing toxic fumes that force the evacuation of nearby workers and residents. According to Moscow, this is an illegal circumvention of Geneva Convention rules against the use of Napalm and chemical weapons. ".
This is both wild and interesting Can you give us the source of this information about its use in the Ukraine war? I can't find it. Thanks
Electric vehicles are very dangerous, especially the ones made in China. They are prone to explode and set fires.
I came across this report recently.
"Russia is preparing to file a complaint against the Ukraine, accusing them of war crimes. The Ukraine, facing a shortage of bombs and artillery ammunition due to the US Congress' allowing a lapse in foreign aid, has made up for the shortfall by dropping Chinese electric vehicles from bombers and launching electric vehicle batteries from artillery and long range rockets. Ukrainian saboteurs have also parked Chinese electric vehicles near Russian ammunition depots, defense plants, and aerodromes and allowed them to catch fire spontaneously, starting fires that take fire fighters days to extinguish and releasing toxic fumes that force the evacuation of nearby workers and residents. According to Moscow, this is an illegal circumvention of Geneva Convention rules against the use of Napalm and chemical weapons. "..
AmorPorFavor
05-21-24, 22:04
This is both wild and interesting Can you give us the source of this information about its use in the Ukraine war? I can't find it. Thanks
.You can't find it because it is just more internet bullshit that people believe.
With that attitude you are probably right. No girl would give a flying FK about you.My attitude in terms of what I am willing to pay has in no way shape or form anything to do with how I treat the girls. I am always kind, never rude or violent.
But at the end of the day it is a service that you consume. You really do not have to pretend it is more than that. And prices matter. Not everyone makes $150 k+ a year.
This is both wild and interesting Can you give us the source of this information about its use in the Ukraine war? I can't find it. Thanks
.That is hilarious stuff. Someone in a basement somewhere is laughing their ass off at how it's spreading.
Elvis 2008
05-22-24, 00:46
When I speak of 'science', I generally mean 'the science community in general'. As you agree it is often (but not always) wrong. As a species we seem to be very good at developing technology (scientific breakthroughs) but lag way behind in understanding its impact. The issue w the COVID discussion here, I think, is that you are willing to accept what one section of the scientific community is saying, the section that is corrupted by capitalism, and dismiss the skeptics. It seems your general leaning is on the wrong side of the fence on this one.
As far as the new hypothesis goes WRT polio polio refers to a paralysis caused by inflammation at the base of the spine. The polio virus causes this, but so do various other things the virus is far from unique in causing that. So when 'scientists' claim that they recorded polio in the 18th century they mean that people were observed with this paralysis at that time. No doubt there were sufferers of paralysis at the time, but that does not mean that the virus caused it. And indeed, no scientist had the know-how to identify a virus at that time. So the new hypothesis is that the polio VIRUS arrived in the USA at the end of the 19th century along with the new and widespread use of DDT, thus causing the epidemic.
Note a polio epidemic is not the same as polio. Just as COVID can exist without there being a COVID epidemic.TK, almost all causes of neurodegeneration are the same, excessive amounts of the neurotransmitter glutamate destroy nervous cells. In polio, apparently only 1% of cases go that far. When I was looking at the numbers, I was shocked at how few cases of polio resulted in nervous system damage.
One of the issues I had with vaccines causing autism is if you talk about mercury, lead, aluminum is if you talk about direct toxicity to the brain, the brain shrinks. However, if these elements interfere with the ability to lower glutamate, the brain actually swells as there is more glutamate to detoxify and one of the by products of glutamate detoxification is excessive water production, and that IMO is why autistics have bigger heads. So IMO mercury's role with autism had to be indirect.
And while dopamine is the attention part of ADHD, glutamate is they hyperactive part. So you take an ADHD person, and they are more likely to be physical attractive because they are high energy people and to be normal and lower their glutamate, they exercise like crazy. Bipolars and borderlines are similar to ADHD, and these types of people typify the multiorgasmic, good in bed, easily slighted types. There is truth to the phrase the crazy ones are the best in bed and why negging can work. And alcohol and Xanax lower glutamate as well, so these people are likely to seek drugs like this out. Thing is my gal is ADHD and of the three types, they are the least crazy.
So with all these neurodegenerative diseases like ALS, MS, Alzheimer's, and poliomyelitis, the cause is the same, excessive glutamate but because there is such variance in glutamate levels between people, double blind studies, AKA "science" are not going to pick out. And when you have someone like myself who can spot a bipolar, borderline, or ADHD person a mile away, I can stick them in the control group and the low glutamate people, the chilled out hippie types, into the group getting vaccines or DDT or whatever, and rig a study. And you really cannot measure glutamate levels but like I can said, I can observe people or ask them questions and figure it out in a minute. In fact, my seemingly innocuous questions like, "When you study for school, do you need absolute quiet?" clue me into what their levels are. Low glutamate people can study in a rock concert.
The same goes with dopamine. I will ask "do you lose your keys and phone a lot?" That is another simple question. If you are low in dopamine, you will say yes. That also tells me the person has above average physical stamina as that is well known with low dopamine people. Thing is you cannot accurately measure dopamine levels either.
The problem with DDT, aluminum, mercury, and lead is that blood levels are only good for recent exposures. If you go a few months out, you have to chelate and then measure urine levels. Only then can you see how much those poisons are affecting people. RFK Jr. Caught one of these vaccinologists lying about the mercury put in vaccines. There was a version of mercury, the "safe kind", that was put in vaccines. People would get the vaccines and no one knew where the mercury went. It took a series of autopsies to show that the "safe kind" of mercury went right into the brain. RFK Jr. Asked the vaccinologist if he was aware of those biopsy results, and the vaccinologist hung up the phone on him.
For now, those who say vaccines do not cause autism have to explain why doctors cannot find an unvaccinated kid with autism and why the Amish, who mostly do not get vaccinated, have close to no autism in their communities. As I said before, I could easily rig a study to show why vaccines do not cause autism based on my observations.
So with DDT like mercury and lead, the mechanism is the same. In numerical terms, if you have to get to 100 to have poliomyelitis, maybe DDT adds 20 points. If you focus on the people who are likely to be 80 or less, you can design a study showing DDT is safe.
The other simple measure with things is blood type. I am O positive the most common type. I always do well with vaccines. Everyone told me the same thing. You have pain at the site the next day, and that is what I had. The second vax left my whole arm tender to the touch for three days. People misunderstood what I meant when I said that. That was my body reacting to the vaccine.
So if this happens to me, can you imagine how other people like AB negative types would react? I talked to one Mexican lady who had trouble walking around for a year. And this lady lived in a hilly neighborhood in Mexico, and she would fly around town once recovered. She got maimed after the first booster and her friends, family, and coworkers wanted to get more boosters. Can you imagine this shit?
And so when I see doctors, I do not want the ones with mastery of the studies. I can read the studies. I want doctors that are familiar with diagnosis and treatments. So when I talk to a an autism doctor I know and respect and ask him how many times he has seen vaccines lead to autism, and he rolls his eyes and says "thousands", that means a helluva lot more to me than some Fauci funded study. The whole concept of anecdotal as worthless completely depends on something else you cannot measure, the character of the observer. And in this case, it was not some doctor with an agenda but a doctor frustrated beyond belief at how many children have been hurt.
My attitude in terms of what I am willing to pay has in no way shape or form anything to do with how I treat the girls. I am always kind, never rude or violent.
But at the end of the day it is a service that you consume. You really do not have to pretend it is more than that. And prices matter. Not everyone makes $150 k+ a year.You can dress it up however you want. But let's look at what you said.
Tough luck. I'm not there to support hookers. I am here to use them. No moral issues with that at all. If any of those girls were in the US they would not even look at you.
Sounds harsh but what I am saying is if roles were reversed you can bet your ass that they would not give a flying FK about you either.I am not saying you need to pay a girl close to what would be required in the US or in Europe but you might try to show just a modicum of humanity. 5 or 10 dollars (converted to COP) as a tip would mean nothing to you (at least I hope not) but for her it is food for the family for a few days.
So you take an ADHD person, and they are more likely to be physical attractive because they are high energy people Now that observation is truly phenomenal.
When I speak of 'science', I generally mean 'the science community in general'. As you agree it is often (but not always) wrong. As a species we seem to be very good at developing technology (scientific breakthroughs) but lag way behind in understanding its impact. The issue w the COVID discussion here, I think, is that you are willing to accept what one section of the scientific community is saying, the section that is corrupted by capitalism, and dismiss the skeptics. It seems your general leaning is on the wrong side of the fence on this one.
As far as the new hypothesis goes WRT polio polio refers to a paralysis caused by inflammation at the base of the spine. The polio virus causes this, but so do various other things the virus is far from unique in causing that. So when 'scientists' claim that they recorded polio in the 18th century they mean that people were observed with this paralysis at that time. No doubt there were sufferers of paralysis at the time, but that does not mean that the virus caused it. And indeed, no scientist had the know-how to identify a virus at that time. So the new hypothesis is that the polio VIRUS arrived in the USA at the end of the 19th century along with the new and widespread use of DDT, thus causing the epidemic.
Note a polio epidemic is not the same as polio. Just as COVID can exist without there being a COVID epidemic.I don't ignore the skeptics who have done the work to support a valid hypothesis. I do ignore the ones who simply have an opinion, idea or complaint. Take the article that Immobile Home linked (Casa No Va is "house doesn't go". A house that goes is a mobile home). It's complaining that people with differing opinions can't get funding. Walk into any bank, tell them you have an opinion that if they loan you $1 million, you can turn it into $10 million in 30 days. You're not getting funding. Walk into the same bank with a solid business plan, market research, seed money and a list of investors, all showing your opinion has an excellent chance of success and walk out with the money.
Using the word polio to refer to symptoms of polio, not caused by the polio virus doesn't work. Vomiting and / or diarrhea are symptoms of some types of influenza, or symptoms of food poisoning, or symptoms of excessive alcohol consumption, or symptoms caused by taking a purgative and laxative. Only 1 of those 4 examples is contagious.
Polio, or a condition which produces polio like symptoms has been around long before pesticides, all the way back to ancient Egypt. It was first clinically described in the late 18th century, first classified as a disease mid 19th century and first shown to be caused by a virus early 20th century. First serious outbreak of polio in the US was in 1894. That's where the hypothesis falls to pieces.
While DDT was first invented in 1874, nobody was using it as a pesticide, nobody was using it at all. A chemist produced a compound which was stable, but nobody knew what it was good for. In 1939 someone discovered it worked well as a pesticide. Any polio outbreaks prior to 1939 can't possibly be attributed to DDT.
Assuming DDT can be shown to cause polio like symptoms, or can be shown to increase risk of infection by lowering immunity, then DDT could potentially be linked to polio outbreaks in the 1950's, 60's and 70's. However, if the main component of the polio outbreaks was caused by DDT rather than the polio virus, outbreaks would not have been significantly affected by the widespread distribution of the vaccines. Polio cases would have only started to disappear after DDT use was restricted. Yet, here's the timeline:
1952- worst recorded outbreak in NYC, 20,000 cases.
1955- Salk vaccine approved and mass vaccination begins.
1962- less than 1,000 cases in US.
1970- 33 cases of polio in US.
1972- US bans general use of DDT.
You can track the cases by year for any country which started vaccination while DDT was widely used, and in countries where it only had limited use, the results are the same.
Can DDT cause polio like symptoms? It's possible. However, we have nobody with polio like symptoms. While DDT was being widely used the majority of polio like symptoms were found in cities, rather than rural areas where DDT was more widely used. Outbreaks which primarily occur in areas with high population density indicate a contagious disease.
The only way to properly test the hypothesis is to expose children to DDT to see if they get polio like symptoms. Can you think of any reason why capitalism isn't throwing money towards that hypothesis?
They understand. I think they just use more of a cross that bridge when we come to it approach. When cars came out they knew the engine exhaust gave off pollution. But at least we will not have to deal with all this horseshit everywhere anymore. When electric cars came out they knew how mining lithium for the batteries fucks up the environment and the miners. But at least we will not have to deal with this smog anymore.Nobody was complaining about the environmental impact of lithium production during the cold War when it was used to build nuclear weapons. Build a bomb capable of destroying an entire city, Yay! Let's build 10,000 more! Build a car that you can plug in and charge and suddenly "what about the environmental impact?
Same thing with coal mining. Didn't hear a lot of complaints about the health risk to miners or the environmental impact, until solar panels and windmills started popping up. Now if you believe the stories, wind turbines are all surrounded by the carcasses of millions of dead birds.
There is mechanically no difference between a simple positive displacement pump and the reciprocating steam engine, invented in 1712, but the pump was invented about 2,000 years earlier. It took about 150 years after the steam engine for someone to figure out the same effect can be generated by gasoline. Thirty years later someone decides to put an engine in a wagon and the car is born.
Of course nobody was thinking about smog. Most heat and cooking was being done by burning coal. Imagine NYC when every building, every house is burning coal. One guy with a gasoline engine powered buggy isn't thinking about the environmental impact.
Using the word polio to refer to symptoms of polio, not caused by the polio virus doesn't work. Vomiting and / or diarrhea are symptoms of some types of influenza...
Much of what you question was covered in the video that your not interested to watch, a lot more was covered in his well researched book on the subject.
For Fu*ks sake I stop reading the thread for one week and it turns into Vaccine warfare!! Is there a Modrator in the house?
Where are all the posts about Bi*ches??
For Fu*ks sake I stop reading the thread for one week and it turns into Vaccine warfare!! Is there a Modrator in the house?
Where are all the posts about Bi*ches??This is the stupid shit in Medellin section.
The reports about bi*ches, as you call them, can be found in the main Medellin thread.
Now back to your regularly programmed stupid shit schedule.
Iguana Six
05-22-24, 23:56
You can't find it because it is just more internet bullshit that people believe.He can't find it because I made it up. Wasn't it obvious?
The only thing missing was a quote from a politician blaming "Tucker Carlson and Putin-loving Republicans congressmen" for holding up the aid.
Iguana Six
05-22-24, 23:58
For Fu*ks sake I stop reading the thread for one week and it turns into Vaccine warfare!! Is there a Modrator in the house?
Where are all the posts about Bi*ches??It is Day 29 of the Great Pointless Monger Debate / Science Fair.
He can't find it because I made it up. Wasn't it obvious?
The only thing missing was a quote from a politician blaming "Tucker Carlson and Putin-loving Republicans congressmen" for holding up the aid.What is funny is that he actually looked it up and was trying to find it. I literally LOL'd just now reading your comment.
Iguana Six
05-23-24, 02:31
That is hilarious stuff. Someone in a basement somewhere is laughing their ass off at how it's spreading.Thank you.
I wanted to add to Elvis's trenchant observation about selecting women with ADHD: bulimic women give great head because they've overcome that gag reflex. Or look for women with upper dental plates. They don't have the caved in faces of the truly edentulous but you get the same advantage. Or epileptics. Stick it in and trigger a seizure. I think Elvis's autism doctors have some more ideas. Donald Trump recommends taking advantage of autistic women because they won't make good witnesses. Plus like Elvis says, " doctors cannot find an unvaccinated kid with autism" so you'd be in less danger from the virus if you just stick to screwing autistic women, because Elvis proves conclusively that all autistics are vaccinated.
As far as The Big Big E's mis / disinformation or just plain inaccurate bullshit about the Amish, of course that's not true:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8195242/
Pay particular attention to this sentences, all you more ONS out there:
"Closed religious communities also resist epidemiological surveillance. "
So if and when these wing nuts show lower rates of infection it's because they're ignorant, and lying, and etc.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-amish-covid-vaccines-cancer-diabetes-autism-356029928165
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2N2NZ1TY/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/02/10/fact-check-false-claim-amish-dont-get-covid-19/4455551001/
This last one shows how misinformation was deliberately posted.
Meantime, follow Elvis's awesome theory and go for ADHD chicks. Confiscate their Ritalin and you have total control.
For Fu*ks sake I stop reading the thread for one week and it turns into Vaccine warfare!! Is there a Modrator in the house?
Where are all the posts about Bi*ches??Can you please take your monger posts elsewhere please, this is the Great Vccine Debate Forum. Go find a mongering forum to post sex comments or smthg.
Much of what you question was covered in the video that your not interested to watch, a lot more was covered in his well researched book on the subject.You're a smart guy. Summarize it. However, you're fighting an uphill battle.
Let's assume that there is a link between DDT and either polio, or polio like symptoms, which are not and will never be the same. Before I continue I want to be certain you have every opportunity to understand that point.
Polio is a communicable disease caused by a virus. We know beyond any doubt whatsoever this is fact. It's even part of a common anti-vax talking point. There were at least 2 times when quality control failure in vaccine manufacturing resulted in vaccines containing live virus were distributed and used, causing people who got the vaccine to come down with polio.
There are possibly many things which could produce polio like symptoms. However, that won't be polio. It won't be contagious, and quite likely, once exposure to the substance ceases the symptoms will disappear.
It doesn't much matter which we assume DDT causes, but the distinction is important, because a contagious disease requires different actions than an illness that's not contagious.
Back on track. We're saying DDT causes one or the other. A skeptic wants funding to prove the link, but nobody will give him money. Now let's buff up the skeptic. He's not just some guy who lacks the education and experience to be taken seriously. Nope. Our skeptic is a dual PhD and an expert in both pesticides and communicable disease. He's considered one of the top experts in the world. He's done all the preliminary work, has everything needed for a successful grant application. He might get funding, if he's not asking for too much. Someone with money might fund his research in the hope that they can get something useful from him later.
There's simple reason why nobody wants to fund that research. It has no benefit. You're spending money to fix a problem which no longer exists. Worldwide, 6 cases in 2021. Two of the three strains of virus have been eradicated. The remaining 1 can only be found in Pakistan and Afghanistan. To the best of my knowledge there have been no cases of polio like symptoms that weren't shown to be caused by the polio virus.
To compound problem, DDT usage has been mostly restricted for 50 years. While DDT was widely used countries which pursued vaccination showed rapid and drastic reduction in the number of cases.
So, without the possibility of exposure to DDT and lacking anyone with polio or polio like symptoms, the field of study yields nothing useful.
Elvis 2008
05-23-24, 19:03
As far as The Big Big E's mis / disinformation or just plain inaccurate bullshit about the Amish, of course that's not true:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8195242/LOL. Can you read? "First, we cannot track the cause of death through the obituary data. " So we cannot track the data but let's just assume that the increased in number of deaths in 2020 was due to a virus with a 0. 2% mortality.
And then you fall for the % change bullshit. Let's apply this to the vaccine data shall we?
3 participants in the BNT162 b2 group and 2 in the original placebo group who received BNT162 b2 after unblinding died.
You take that data and you can say, "Oh my God, you are 50% more likely to die if you get the Covid vaccine. " That is the game "scientists" play to scare people.
This study, and I do not even want to call it a study, this bullshit piece of propaganda was put into place to support the stupid shit government was doing and demonize the Amish, and a dumb fuck like you fell for it.
And you are not even debating about the vaccine because the vaccine was not available when this study was done.
"The importance of face-to-face rituals in CRCs and Amish groups' general resistance to mask-wearing and other CDC guidelines makes them especially vulnerable to COVID-19".
The one thing every country agreed on was to not have mass gatherings. Hell, I believed in that and did not go to mass gatherings back then, but the Amish did not and guess what? IMO that should be their fucking choice. Democratic douches like you support mass gathering BLM riots but freaked out when people went to church.
The really important part of this study is government is attacking the Amish. Government does not like how fucking healthy they are and how they resist government mandates, and there is a war brewing between them and government. If you follow the news, there is a horrible government case against the Amish and how one Amish person was growing his food and not even selling it to the general public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_zy3x1j1t0
Yeah, we cannot have people producing their own food and selling it to their neighbors! I am sure the government can conduct another bullshit study as to why this is saving us. Cough, cough.
Meantime, follow Elvis's awesome theory and go for ADHD chicks. Confiscate their Ritalin and you have total control.Ritalin is not widely used in other countries. We have a shit load more ADHD in our country after the vaccines and this stuff is given out by the pound now to combat what is not normal for kids to do: sit in a classroom for hours on end when young.
And what group flies in the face of the government's hairbrained "education" scheme? That would again be the Amish.
And no, I do not love the Amish or want to be a part of their group. I love freedom and as someone who loves freedom, that means leaving the Amish the fuck alone.
You're a smart guy. Summarize it. However, you're fighting an uphill battle.
Polio is a communicable disease caused by a virus. We know beyond any doubt whatsoever this is fact. I am smart enough to know that to make a decent effort to just summarise the main arguments would take several hours, and it would ultimately be an exercise in futility. Flogging a dead horse. The 2 guys in the video know far more about it than I will ever do, they have done the work (especially the author of the book), and they make a much better presentation than I coud ever make, so I really don't see any point in me wasting my time on it. If you were interested, you would watch the video and even read the book. And I can save my time and put it to better personal use. :)
But I can say that your starting 'fact' is dealt with at the start of the video. Polio is a condition of paralysis caused by swlling at the base of the spine. It can be caused by virus or several other factors. Thats their definition.
Elvis really wishes he could join the Amish. Dude, it's not a club.
Elvis 2008
05-24-24, 14:31
Elvis really wishes he could join the Amish. Dude, it's not a club.
And no, I do not love the Amish or want to be a part of their group. I love freedom and as someone who loves freedom, that means leaving the Amish the fuck alone.Yes, Huacho, you are a predictably stupid liar at this point.
What I do not get about you is you have the freedom to monger and travel but you are willing to throw you freedom in the trash over the smallest scare. Huacho, the government does not like your conduct and seeing that is all that matters to you, you must really hate yourself.
I am smart enough to know that to make a decent effort to just summarise the main arguments would take several hours, and it would ultimately be an exercise in futility. Flogging a dead horse. The 2 guys in the video know far more about it than I will ever do, they have done the work (especially the author of the book), and they make a much better presentation than I coud ever make, so I really don't see any point in me wasting my time on it. If you were interested, you would watch the video and even read the book. And I can save my time and put it to better personal use. :)
But I can say that your starting 'fact' is dealt with at the start of the video. Polio is a condition of paralysis caused by swlling at the base of the spine. It can be caused by virus or several other factors. Thats their definition.I understand that's "their" definition, but it's not a correct definition. If I had bothered to watch the video, I would have stopped right there, rolled my eyes and walked away. However, if I stayed around to see them explain polio as a swelling at the base of the spine, I'd probably have said a few choice words, before walking away. Polio isn't a swelling. Once the virus gets into the central nervous system, it destroys nerve cells, which creates the appearance of swelling.
This is a huge fundamental difference. Swelling isn't a permanent condition. In many cases, swelling can be controlled with steroids. In almost all cases, once the cause of swelling is removed, the swelling goes away. COVID-19 can cause that swelling and I can verify the swelling can lead to temporary paralysis. Nerve damage is irreversible. In some cases of Traumatic Brain Injury, different neural pathways can be used, although there are some side effects. Aphasia is common.
This is why I don't get my information from videos. Someone can make a great presentation, and it can sound incredibly convincing, but everything you're seeing is what they want you to see and everything path is the one they steered you down. You're not being asked to think, you're being told to believe without questions.
This reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who wanted to steer me into her religion. She had a book "The Case For Christ" written by an alleged lawyer. The format was a trial, to prove or disprove the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ. To me it was hilarious. Every bit of his "evidence" would have been inadmissible in an actual court and the logical fallacies were non-stop.
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This reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who wanted to steer me into her religion. She had a book "The Case For Christ" written by an alleged lawyer. The format was a trial, to prove or disprove the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ. To me it was hilarious. Every bit of his "evidence" would have been inadmissible in an actual court and the logical fallacies were non-stop.Sounds like another oldie but goodie "The Screwtape Letters" written by CS Lewis.
Elvis 2008
05-25-24, 04:09
She had a book "The Case For Christ" written by an alleged lawyer. The format was a trial, to prove or disprove the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ. To me it was hilarious. Every bit of his "evidence" would have been inadmissible in an actual court and the logical fallacies were non-stop.LOL. Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen just testified in court. No, he is not an alleged lawyer. He went to Yale, and he laid out a case with "experts" just like what was done with Covid. Instead of focusing on what he got wrong, and he got a lot wrong, because like Covid the "experts" had a huge conflict of interest.
In fact, the most compelling part of the book was the anecdotal, the author's own story. The rest was trash. The virgin birth, the date of December 25, the concept of more than one God (the Trinity) were advertisements to get the pagans to sign up, and the whole concept of asexuality of Jesus and his mother just seemed like such contrived notions to me. The church has been using sex to control people practically since its inception. Priests could not have legitimate children. Jesus never got laid and then there was the nonsense that the Bible and Jesus supported monogamy.
This was the exact same thing with Covid. The CDC and the NIH were protecting a brand by calling themselves experts and using political not scientific expertise to put people in check. When the best seller the the Vinci Code comes out, everyone freaks. Jesus had sex and a child, and that story is popular? Noooo!
Guys like this preached the Bible was perfect. It was the word of God which was always nonsense. There were all different kinds of gospels and without copy machines, scribes would not just err in copying the Bibles but get bored and make up their own stories. The four gospels in the Bible were a political not spiritual decision and the current Bible was not even that. Our current Bible just happened to be the book closest to the first known printing presses. There was no debate then about which book was most accurate.
The basis of the the Vinci code was one small paragraph about Jesus having sex and being in love with Mary Magdalene in one of the alternative gospels. So what? Those facts should not get in the way of the wisdom that is in the Bible but if you think your way is the best and only way, a tool for power which is ironic because Jesus preached that having power was not worth seeking as God had it all, then there are and were problems. The book was all politics and yes court rooms are political theater. Being popular trumps being right in court. So yeah, it was garbage and totally wrong, but the book was popular because it told people what they wanted to hear which is the same with you and Covid. You wanted to believe the government knew what it was doing when it obviously did not.
Swelling isn't a permanent condition. In many cases, swelling can be controlled with steroids. In almost all cases, once the cause of swelling is removed, the swelling goes away.Steroids can reduce certain swelling short term but cause swelling long term. And swelling most certainly can be a chronic condition. You do not know what you are talking about. Just stop.
Elvis really wishes he could join the Amish. Dude, it's not a club.
Yes, Huacho, you are a predictably stupid liar at this point.
Not a Surprise. Your lack of education is shining through once again. You shouldn't use big words (like "lie") that you don't understand.
Did you ever go to college? Did you ever take a philosophy course?
Let me give you some clarification. If I say that "Joe Biden is a much better President than was Donald Trump. " You may disagree. Say whatever you want.
BUT it isn't a "lie" it is an "opinion". An opinion may or may not have a factual basis. Even you, Elvis, can have an opinion without being a liar.
Here is another: I tell you today's date is Saturday May 24th, 2024. Well, that isn't true, is it? Today is Saturday, May 25th 2024. Was that a lie? Of course not!
It wasn't a lie, it wasn't an opinion. It was a mistake. What is the difference between a lie and a mistake? Intent! If I was intentionally trying to deceive you then it was a lie.
If it was unintentional then it was a mistake.
But wait! There is more.
What if you profess your admiration for the Amish sect and their refusal to have the members of their sect vaccinated because it goes against their medieval religious beliefs.
Someone comes along and states that you wish to join their sect. Is that a lie? Of course not! It is a statement made to highlight the stupidity of your previous comments.
Is it factual? Only you can answer that. But it can't be a lie because it wasn't an intentional statement trying to deceive anyone.
I understand that's "their" definition, but it's not a correct definition. if I stayed around to see them explain polio as a swelling at the base of the spine, I'd probably have said a few choice words, before walking away. Polio isn't a swelling.
.Thats good. Bcos its not what I wrote nor how the defined. They say it is a paralysis.
Elvis 2008
05-25-24, 20:12
Someone comes along and states that you wish to join their sect. Is that a lie? Of course not!
Is it factual? Only you can answer that. But it can't be a lie because it wasn't an intentional statement trying to deceive anyone.
And no, I do not love the Amish or want to be a part of their group. I love freedom and as someone who loves freedom, that means leaving the Amish the fuck alone.
What if you profess your admiration for the Amish sect and their refusal to have the members of their sect vaccinated because it goes against their medieval religious beliefs.And now you are lying.
Not a Surprise. Your lack of education is shining through once again. You shouldn't use big words (like "lie") that you don't understand.
Did you ever go to college? Did you ever take a philosophy course?Is that your excuse when you lie about people? Saying you are more educated than people? That sounds like something you would do. Great "group" you belong to.
And your "group" is voting for this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wso4sTKT6jw.
Thats good. Bcos its not what I wrote nor how the defined. They say it is a paralysis.Are you sure that's not what you wrote?
But I can say that your starting 'fact' is dealt with at the start of the video. Polio is a condition of paralysis caused by swlling at the base of the spine. It can be caused by virus or several other factors. Thats their definition.I understand that is what they say, but it's simply not true. Polio is a contagious disease caused by the poliomyelitis virus. There were 3 strains of the virus, 2 have been eradicated due to the success of worldwide vaccination. The third strain is only active in 2 countries, Pakistan and Afghanistan. There is also a lab created strain, used to produce the vaccines.
In most cases the virus attacks the gastrointestinal system and it causes flu like symptoms. In about 1 of every 200 infections the virus migrates to the central nervous system. Once there it destroys neurons which can cause paralysis. Like other viral infections, it is identified by the presence of antibodies in the blood.
Many different things can cause paralysis, temporary and permanent. Swelling causes temporary paralysis by interruptingthe neural pathway. Once the swelling goes away the pathway is restored. Damage to a neural pathway causes permanent paralysis.
All of this information is readily available, so I'm confused about your reluctance to check their beginning definition of polio.
What if you profess your admiration for the Amish sect and their refusal to have the members of their sect vaccinated because it goes against their medieval religious beliefs.
And now you are lying.
Now you see? Your lack of education keeps showcasing your stupidity. ANY sentence that starts with "What if" is called a hypothetical. By definition a hypothetical cannot be a lie. You may contest either clause. You could say, for example, the dependant clause ("What if") is false or untrue OR you could contest the independant clause ("then this would happen") as being erroneous or that you disagree with it.
But like I said before. You don't know what a lie is AND you obviously didn't do very well in you studies of the English language either.
It must be embarrassing to be constantly reminded of your lack of education.
Are you sure that's not what you wrote?
I understand that is what they say, but it's simply not true.
All of this information is readily available, so I'm confused about your reluctance to check their beginning definition of polio.Yes, I am sure. As your quote shows, I wrote that Polio is a paralysis caused by swelling. You wrote as me saying its swelling.
If you choose to define Polio by your terms, that's fine. They define it as smthg else. They would say you are describing the virus, not the condition.
But anyway, you are asking me so many Qs about this video yet you sy you don't want to watch it. Are you sure? I feel like the middle man between you and the video creators. These are their opinions, not mine. I simply wrote the video was interesting and persuasive. You could take your points up with them if you watched it, and save me the job.
The reason this came up at all was bcos I was demonstrating my point that the science community often make many mistakes, and gave DDT as an example. Everything else has been a distrraction.
Elvis 2008
05-27-24, 04:45
Now you see? Your lack of education keeps showcasing your stupidity. ANY sentence that starts with "What if" is called a hypothetical. By definition a hypothetical cannot be a lie.And now you lie again. What if you are a lying turd eating martian cockroach? That is not an insult because is said what if. It is a hypothetical. Are you really this fucking stupid?
For example, if I were to say that Elvis is a corpulent, needle dick, turd eating Martian who engages in felching, that would only be a lie if it wasn't true, and I knew it wasn't true. Otherwise, it's just an unsubstantiated allegation.
For example, if I were to say that Elvis is a corpulent, needle dick, turd eating Martian who engages in felching, that would only be a lie if it wasn't true, and I knew it wasn't true. Otherwise, it's just an unsubstantiated allegation.You Are-- What has Elvis done to you? I mean it is just so strange your personal attacks on him. You seem psychotic / unstable. Care to explain?
You Are-- What has Elvis done to you? I mean it is just so strange your personal attacks on him. You seem psychotic / unstable. Care to explain?So in your view, Baby Elvis can issue all kinds of personal attacks on anyone at anytime. BUT if they respond in kind, it is their fault. Go back to your street girls in Bogota and leave the real discussions to the people who have an education.
You Are-- What has Elvis done to you? I mean it is just so strange your personal attacks on him. You seem psychotic / unstable. Care to explain?No. You're observably stupid, so it would be a waste of time. You can't even write a single correct sentence.
Elvis 2008
05-29-24, 21:07
You Are-- What has Elvis done to you? I mean it is just so strange your personal attacks on him. You seem psychotic / unstable. Care to explain?I figured I would let them go first, and they did. What you have is two intelligent people with no common sense and the egotistical belief that government loves them and knows best, and they make fun of anyone who does not think of them.
So V says the vaccine lowered the death rate on Covid from 3. 5 to 0. 2% when it did not. That is just what he wanted to believe. The 3. 5% number was made up. Does he get mad at government and the media? No, he gets mad at me because he feels stupid for his trusting government.
Huacho pulls out this study to show more Amish died because they weren't vaccinated. I tell Huacho your study was conducted BEFORE the vaccine was available. So he feels stupid. Even after saying I do not want to be part of the Amish, but I do wish government would leave them the fuck alone, Huacho makes this comment about my loving them. That is all he can say. He cannot say he is wrong. Hell, this guy was more scared of Covid than anyone and locked himself away from everyone, but the Amish kept living their same lives.
And while these dumb asses are scared shitless of a virus that was maybe a little stronger than the flu, we have this HUGE health problem with one in thirty six children in our country being born autistic. Why? Instead of studying why the Amish have such low rates, the government is attacking them as dangerous just like they did with the unvaxxed. Autism was unseen when I was growing up. WTF changed? The people I have talked point to three culprits: heavy metals, pesticides like Roundup, and vaccines. What is so sad is that the government is okay with wheat that is drenched with Roundup but not how the Amish are growing food. Is this about safety? Were the vaccines about safety or about enriching corporations?
It has been written that the average American breaks three laws a day. I should also say that the average American thinks they are law abiding. For me, I knew I was breaking the law when mongering and I know that breaking the law versus getting arrested and being convicted beyond a reasonable doubt are two different things, so I want government small enough so they can focus on crimes with victims instead of what I was doing. If you let government get big enough, they will do all they can to steal your money and freedom and make up victims. That is what they did in the USA; government made prostitution and trafficking legally indistinguishable.
Maybe the conflict exists Woodman because with me and you, government is not giving us handouts. Maybe that is why these guys think government loves them. Thing is that it is not government sending these guys their money but working guys like you and me.
And when a monger gets arrested, V does not have sympathy for the monger. Oh no, that guy was with an underage woman because the police said that so fuck him. Instead of seeing the truth, this guy could easily have been him, he comes up with all these excuses why it could never happen to him in his head. The city of Medellin hates mongers like V, and that hatred has been approved of by the USA government. But he thinks everyone in Medellin loves him. And when I tell him that he is hated like all mongers in Medellin, that is where the anger comes from.
And I felt that hatred when I went through Medellin customs a while back. I met the profile of a monger and was treated as such. I did not take it personally, but people here had a fucking field day making up excuses of why it was me. They seem to forget the part when my gal and her daughter came through, the customs agent totally changed her tune. Those mongers cannot deal with the reality that they are hated.
It is not the same in Bogota, Woodman, but if Bogota does turn into Medellin, and I doubt it will, I am sure you will make adjustments and deal with it realistically like you did with Covid.
It is healthier for most people to believe in authority figures. To say that government knows what it is doing. Government likes and serves me. I am a law abiding citizen. I get it, but you should not live that way if you are a monger going against societal norms. You do not listen to government when it comes to sex. You made up your own mind about what was best. Why not do that for everything?
DriftClouds
06-02-24, 00:51
Is cocaine quality in Colombia less than the cocaine in the US? I don't do drug, but I am wondering what the hell is going on, I heard some terrible things about tourists in medellin get heart attack or stroke from Medellin cocaine, and legendary rock star celebrity died from colombian cocaine in Colombia. Like the OD rate seems way higher than US consumers. Is it because the quality control in medellin / Colombia is so bad you can't trust them? Is the same for the weed?
Is cocaine quality in Colombia less than the cocaine in the US? I don't do drug, but I am wondering what the hell is going on, I heard some terrible things about tourists in medellin get heart attack or stroke from Medellin cocaine, and legendary rock star celebrity died from colombian cocaine in Colombia. Like the OD rate seems way higher than US consumers. Is it because the quality control in medellin / Colombia is so bad you can't trust them? Is the same for the weed?I think you'll find that it's tussi that most of those people are having problems with. That shit could be anything. I don't mess with coke but there's nothing wrong with the weed there.
Mr Enternational
06-02-24, 03:01
Is cocaine quality in Colombia less than the cocaine in the US? I don't do drug, but I am wondering what the hell is going on, I heard some terrible things about tourists in medellin get heart attack or stroke from Medellin cocaine, and legendary rock star celebrity died from colombian cocaine in Colombia. Like the OD rate seems way higher than US consumers. Is it because the quality control in medellin / Colombia is so bad you can't trust them? Is the same for the weed?I think you have it mixed up or backwards from your own question. More that the cocaine in Colombia is purer because it has not been cut with a bunch of shit in order to stretch the profit margin after passing through so many hands. The people coming from other places are probably ingesting more as they are used to doing, not understanding the purity at the source. It is like how you can drink an entire bottle of alcohol at the club and feel just fine because the shit is watered down 50/50, but you try doing that same thing at home when you bought the bottle from the liquor store and it is not watered down and you need an ambulance.
JackTaggart
06-02-24, 03:39
Is cocaine quality in Colombia less than the cocaine in the US? I don't do drug, but I am wondering what the hell is going on, I heard some terrible things about tourists in medellin get heart attack or stroke from Medellin cocaine, and legendary rock star celebrity died from colombian cocaine in Colombia. Like the OD rate seems way higher than US consumers. Is it because the quality control in medellin / Colombia is so bad you can't trust them? Is the same for the weed?Colombia produces like 2/3 of the worlds cocaine. Where do you think the quality will be the best? What makes you say the OD rate is higher in Colombia? Have any actual statistics?
It's quite the opposite about quality. There is this movie based on real life events about the quality of cocaine in the usa. Here's the trailer. Be careful out there.
https://youtu.be/DuWEEKeJLMI?si=PTv3O5rdld1Aud7N
More that the cocaine in Colombia is purer because it has not been cut with a bunch of shit in order to stretch the profit margin after passing through so many hands. .It could also be related to price. You can buy a gram for as low as COP 4000 in Centro (but more likely 6 or 7000). Which in all cases is less than the price of a beer. So you can consume a hell of a lot more for a small amount of money.
I post a video here for anyone interested in informing themselves about some of the COVID truths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ZBJI_Pa7w
I know many here like to think that they are on the right side of the argument bcos they take comfort that the powerful tell them so. But they are being lied to, quite obviously so, and this video shows you how and why.
Why do I keep posting about this? Bcos history is written by the victors, those that hold power. People will look back at these times and read the mainstream press and believe the lies that have been written. We need to keep banging on the door and break it down. We need the truth to come out so that the lies and liars can be uncovered and held to account.
After a lifetime of experiencing with disbelief the lies that the West speak. Just look at COVID, Iraq, Palestine / Israel, Afghanistan /9-11, Russia, Apartheid, Communism / Socialism, the murders of many important figures, one questions even some of the more fundamental histories that we were told as evident truths, such as WW2. It's funny how we always bring justice and never have selfish intentions.
The problem with Martenson and his kind is they are taking advantage of the righteous indignation his followers feel about Big Pharma--and most of his followers lack the scientific credentials or the ability to reason to evaluate his claims.
He is trying to up his paid subscriber base by pandering. Most of it is simply baseless.
I post a video here for anyone interested in informing themselves about some of the COVID truths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ZBJI_Pa7w
I know many here like to think that they are on the right side of the argument bcos they take comfort that the powerful tell them so. But they are being lied to, quite obviously so, and this video shows you how and why.
Why do I keep posting about this? Bcos history is written by the victors, those that hold power. People will look back at these times and read the mainstream press and believe the lies that have been written. We need to keep banging on the door and break it down. We need the truth to come out so that the lies and liars can be uncovered and held to account.
After a lifetime of experiencing with disbelief the lies that the West speak. Just look at COVID, Iraq, Palestine / Israel, Afghanistan /9-11, Russia, Apartheid, Communism / Socialism, the murders of many important figures, one questions even some of the more fundamental histories that we were told as evident truths, such as WW2. It's funny how we always bring justice and never have selfish intentions.
The problem with Martenson and his kind is they are taking advantage of the righteous indignation his followers feel about Big Pharma--and most of his followers lack the scientific credentials or the ability to reason to evaluate his claims.
He is trying to up his paid subscriber base by pandering. Most of it is simply baseless.What is the problem with someone trying to grow their channel? I don't see that criticism levelled at anyone else. And what research did you do in orfer to claim "most of his followers lack the scientific credentials" , and again, why is that a problem?
If you watched his shows, you would see that he makes evidence based claims. In fact, one of his strengths is that he criticises false / bad science. So it seems the only thing baseless here, is your criticism.
Elvis 2008
06-11-24, 16:55
The problem with Martenson and his kind is they are taking advantage of the righteous indignation his followers feel about Big Pharma--and most of his followers lack the scientific credentials or the ability to reason to evaluate his claims.
He is trying to up his paid subscriber base by pandering. Most of it is simply baseless.Sorry, the Democratic douche credentials thing does not work when the FEC are the experts in election law and found Trump not guilty of election fraud and 12 uneducated about election law nonexpert jurors found Trump guilty of violating election law. That guilty verdict was arrived at only after the FEC experts were barred from testifying about its findings.
The Democratic douche version of expertise are experts who agree with you. Anyone who disagrees with you all is too stupid to understand anything or disreputable.
Meanwhile, the Washington Post was exposed today after it was learned it did Fauci's bidding with trying to deflect on his funding an experiment torturing dogs. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nih-scrambled-after-zerohedge-report-fauci-beagle-experiments-scrubbed-database-then-fed.
Just like with creation of the Covid virus, Fauci circumvented USA law by funding the experiment overseas.
And just like with Covid, Fauci et al made fun of the people reporting the story, They called ZeroHedge: "an illegitimate blog of no credibility".
Of course, ZH was just a blog reporting the story from another source. They just had the balls to publish that other source, and once more, ZH was right, and the WP was shown to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for government.
Fauci's famed quote, "It is really easy to criticize me but they're really critical of science because I represent science. ".
Only to discover that the NIH appears to have lied about funding the experiment, which involved beagles between 6 and 8 months old obtained from the kennels of the Pasteur Institute of Tunis. In the study, the beagles were sedated and then exposed to hundreds of sand flies that had been deprived of food for 24 hours. This exposure took place as part of research into zoonotic visceral leishmaniasis (ZVL), a disease carried by sand flies that can affect dogs and humans.
And nothing says science like infecting puppies with sand flies, an experiment against USA laws, and cutting out their vocal cords after they bark too much.
Maybe it is not the science that Fauci's critics have a problem with but the lying, illegal activity, and damage he has caused and using the term science to justify it.
So I guess people are too stupid to see that there were more deaths in the vaccinated group than the unvaccinated group. Are people too stupid to understand the photos of tortured animals too?
He is not a practicing physician, he's just a guy with a science background who realized there is a lot of money to be made voicing unfounded claims while people subscribe to him. Before Covid, he was actively involved preaching economic doom. Stagflation was his favorite choice for the future for many years. He then went on to Covid and the vaccines. Knowing conspiracy believers like yourself will fall for it.
What is the problem with someone trying to grow their channel? I don't see that criticism levelled at anyone else. And what research did you do in orfer to claim "most of his followers lack the scientific credentials" , and again, why is that a problem?
If you watched his shows, you would see that he makes evidence based claims. In fact, one of his strengths is that he criticises false / bad science. So it seems the only thing baseless here, is your criticism.
He is not a practicing physician, he's just a guy with a science background. Before Covid, he was actively involved preaching economic doom. Didn't realise you needed to be a practising physician to read and interpret statistics and report on the findings, and more importantly report on unsubstantiated claims. Sounds like he was correct about the economy too. If by 'conspiracy' you mean a claim that contradicts the government claim. Yes, I will gladly wear that badge with pride; anyone that doesn't is a gullible fool that is endangering civilisation.
I just don't know where to start with my response.
Let's take your absurd statement that he was right about the economy. He was preaching doom since the 1990's.
In 2009 he started a seminar called the "Crash Course" full of horse manure of the market crashing. At the end of 2009 the DJIA closed at 10,500 compared to today where it is at 38,800. I think even conspiracy believing morons can do the math here. He decided to drop that after draining the idiots of their money once the false narrative wasn't working anymore.
When the tit went dry for him there, he saw an opportunity to cash in on Covid. Knowing full well he can manipulate statistics and present his story line to conspiracy followers.
I actually give him credit for making a lot of money off stupid people.
Didn't realise you needed to be a practising physician to read and interpret statistics and report on the findings, and more importantly report on unsubstantiated claims. Sounds like he was correct about the economy too. If by 'conspiracy' you mean a claim that contradicts the government claim. Yes, I will gladly wear that badge with pride; anyone that doesn't is a gullible fool that is endangering civilisation.
You are really are special if you believe what you read from Zero Hedge. It is a far-right libertarian financial blog news aggregator preaching doom and disaster with false or misleading claims.
What do you mean he was found not guilty of election fraud? He is the one claiming election fraud. He is preaching to his idiot followers that there was fraud committed without proof. And knowing it is a lie.
Sorry, the Democratic douche credentials thing does not work when the FEC are the experts in election law and found Trump not guilty of election fraud and 12 uneducated about election law nonexpert jurors found Trump guilty of violating election law. That guilty verdict was arrived at only after the FEC experts were barred from testifying about its findings.
The Democratic douche version of expertise are experts who agree with you. Anyone who disagrees with you all is too stupid to understand anything or disreputable.
Meanwhile, the Washington Post was exposed today after it was learned it did Fauci's bidding with trying to deflect on his funding an experiment torturing dogs. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nih-scrambled-after-zerohedge-report-fauci-beagle-experiments-scrubbed-database-then-fed.
Just like with creation of the Covid virus, Fauci circumvented USA law by funding the experiment overseas.
And just like with Covid, Fauci et al made fun of the people reporting the story, They called ZeroHedge: "an illegitimate blog of no credibility".
Of course, ZH was just a blog reporting the story from another source. They just had the balls to publish that other source, and once more, ZH was right, and the WP was shown to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for government.
Fauci's famed quote, "It is really easy to criticize me but they're really critical of science because I represent science. ".
Only to discover that the NIH appears to have lied about funding the experiment, which involved beagles between 6 and 8 months old obtained from the kennels of the Pasteur Institute of Tunis. In the study, the beagles were sedated and then exposed to hundreds of sand flies that had been deprived of food for 24 hours. This exposure took place as part of research into zoonotic visceral leishmaniasis (ZVL), a disease carried by sand flies that can affect dogs and humans.
And nothing says science like infecting puppies with sand flies, an experiment against USA laws, and cutting out their vocal cords after they bark too much.
Maybe it is not the science that Fauci's critics have a problem with but the lying, illegal activity, and damage he has caused and using the term science to justify it.
So I guess people are too stupid to see that there were more deaths in the vaccinated group than the unvaccinated group. Are people too stupid to understand the photos of tortured animals too?
Sorry, the Democratic douche credentials thing does not work when the FEC are the experts in election law and found Trump not guilty of election fraud and 12 uneducated about election law nonexpert jurors found Trump guilty of violating election law. That guilty verdict was arrived at only after the FEC experts were barred from testifying about its findings.
The FEC did NOT absolve Trump of any wrongdoing with respect to the payoffs. You are either misinformed or just flat out lying. The staff lawyers at the FEC raised the issue but there was no plurality vote. The FEC is composed of 3 Republicans and 3 Democrats and a vote of 4 is required to make a decision.
https://www.citizensforethics.org/news/analysis/no-the-fec-did-not-absolve-trump-of-his-hush-money-campaign-finance-issues/
I just don't know where to start with my response.
Let's take your absurd statement that he was right about the economy. ...At the end of 2009 the DJIA closed at 10,500 compared to today where it is at 38,800. I think even conspiracy believing morons can do the math here.Your response is just the type of simplistic analysis that has landed the world in the state it is now in. You equate the economic health with some stock index. How Neandathal! The stock market collapsed several times since then, there have been housing crises, a huge transfer of wealth up the ladder, destruction of the middle class, huge swaths of people on second jobs bcos 1 job no longer pays enough to pay the extortionate landlords, millions sleeping on the streets, even more living pay check to pay check, inflation running riot. But yeah, the economy is doing really well. Maybe if your a billionnaire and control the government.
Elvis 2008
06-13-24, 07:29
The FEC did NOT absolve Trump of any wrongdoing with respect to the payoffs. You are either misinformed or just flat out lying. The staff lawyers at the FEC raised the issue but there was no plurality vote. The FEC is composed of 3 Republicans and 3 Democrats and a vote of 4 is required to make a decision.
https://www.citizensforethics.org/news/analysis/no-the-fec-did-not-absolve-trump-of-his-hush-money-campaign-finance-issues/You guys and your "they did not find Trump not guilty" nonsense. The FEC fined Hiliary Clinton and they fined Obama and did not fine Trump. Then you cite an article that says, " the dysfunctional FEC's failure to take action against Trump is again being used to attack the merits of the case against him. ".
"the agency's nonpartisan lawyers recommended that the FEC find reason to believe that Trump and others violated several campaign finance laws".
So the lawyers are nonpartisan, and the jurors are courageous because they went or wanted to go after Trump, and the FEC sucks it did not, and you swallowed this opinion piece and proclaimed it to be truth? LOL.
Cooksey and Trainor AKA the evil Republicans avoided addressing the merits of the allegations against Trump. Instead, they couched their votes as "an exercise of prosecutorial discretion".
And that was the exact same reason given as to why Hilary Clinton was not pursued for the email scandal.
What did I say? You are doing the Democratic douche thing where you assign expertise based on whether or not you like their point of view rather than their credentials.
Wow, Based on your ranting below, I and the people I know must all be billionaires because we are not living in extreme poverty.
Stock market collapsed? Really, how did I miss that? I mean my 401 K is doing just fine. Sure there have been ups and downs but I am most others have done well.
Are you living in Haiti or Somalia maybe?
Your response is just the type of simplistic analysis that has landed the world in the state it is now in. You equate the economic health with some stock index. How Neandathal! The stock market collapsed several times since then, there have been housing crises, a huge transfer of wealth up the ladder, destruction of the middle class, huge swaths of people on second jobs bcos 1 job no longer pays enough to pay the extortionate landlords, millions sleeping on the streets, even more living pay check to pay check, inflation running riot. But yeah, the economy is doing really well. Maybe if your a billionnaire and control the government.
Its sponsorship, lab-origins, the cover up, the complicity of 'science', it's all evidenced and its coming out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfSHifSiPhY
Its sponsorship, lab-origins, the cover up, the complicity of 'science', it's all evidenced and its coming out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfSHifSiPhYYou seem like an intelligent person, so why are you being such a fucking idiot as to get info from YouTube? There's no fucking evidence and it's been years now. You conspiracy theorists way overestimate people's ability to keep their mouths shut. There would have been a leak, whistleblowers, etc. But at least with you being a left wing crank and Elvis being a right wing crank, we get the full spectrum of fullofshitness.
FFlintstone69
06-17-24, 18:38
I post a video here for anyone interested in informing themselves about some of the COVID truths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ZBJI_Pa7w
I know many here like to think that they are on the right side of the argument bcos they take comfort that the powerful tell them so. But they are being lied to, quite obviously so, and this video shows you how and why.
Why do I keep posting about this? Bcos history is written by the victors, those that hold power. People will look back at these times and read the mainstream press and believe the lies that have been written. We need to keep banging on the door and break it down. We need the truth to come out so that the lies and liars can be uncovered and held to account.
After a lifetime of experiencing with disbelief the lies that the West speak. Just look at COVID, Iraq, Palestine / Israel, Afghanistan /9-11, Russia, Apartheid, Communism / Socialism, the murders of many important figures, one questions even some of the more fundamental histories that we were told as evident truths, such as WW2. It's funny how we always bring justice and never have selfish intentions.Then please tell us the truth about the "Holocaust" narrative, young wise one.
Elvis 2008
06-17-24, 20:16
You seem like an intelligent person, so why are you being such a fucking idiot as to get info from YouTube? There's no fucking evidence and it's been years now. You conspiracy theorists way overestimate people's ability to keep their mouths shut. There would have been a leak, whistleblowers, etc. But at least with you being a left wing crank and Elvis being a right wing crank, we get the full spectrum of fullofshitness.I love how you think TK and I were the cranks when we were banging the finest pussy the world ever offered up at dirt cheap prices while you locked yourself up for two years. You know at worst Covid was twice as deadly as the flu. You have to be the most arrogant fuck in the world, and you are, to think that was smart.
And TK, it is all there now for anyone to see.
I posted about Covid a bit just to see if these Democratic douches had wised up, and they were just as dumb as ever. They will never veer from the Democrat party line. Fauci funded the creation of Covid, paid for the research in China to skirt USA law, and then tried to cover up what he did once the shit hit the fan, and these Democratic douches still defend him, and they always will.
I love how you think TK and I were the cranks when we were banging the finest pussy the world ever offered up at dirt cheap prices while you locked yourself up for two years. It was a couple of months and Guatemala was all shut down and locked down, public transportation shut down, driving bans, parks taped off, etc. And after like two months I started fucking my neighbor in the building, great sex. In particular when I am in other countries, I follow most of their rules, especially when the army is patrolling the streets to enforce them. I really don't argue much with cardloads of masked dudes with automatic weapons.
Did you catch the part about how the airport was closed, all public transportation was shut down, and you weren't allowed to drive between partidos without a permit? So the best pussy in the world could have been ten miles away begging to be fucked and there was no way to get there.
Now call me a Democratic douche.
why are you being such a fucking idiot as to get info from YouTube? ... There would have been a leak, whistleblowers, etc. Youtube has the best news channels on the planet bcos they are not controlled by the establishment propaganda machines.
There are no need for whistleblowers or leaks bcos the truth is out. BUt you won't hear it bcos you don't watch Youtube, you only watch the mainstream media where uncomfortable truths are supressed / ignored.
Then please tell us the truth about the "Holocaust" narrative, young wise one.I must have been sleeping when I wrote about the holocaust since I can't remember mentioning it.
But here are some parts of the WW2 mythology:
- that the USA and UK entered the war to help save Europe and protect the Jews.
- that Churchill deserves his place as a national hero and is not really a raving racist and mass murderer, almost equal in number to Hitler.
- that the USA entering the war was the deciding factor.
- that the nuclear bombing of Japan was necessary and not simply a strategic move to prevent Russian influence in the region.
Am sure there are more. These are just a few that sprung to mind.
Youtube has the best news channels on the planet bcos they are not controlled by the establishment propaganda machines.
There are no need for whistleblowers or leaks bcos the truth is out. BUt you won't hear it bcos you don't watch Youtube, you only watch the mainstream media where uncomfortable truths are supressed / ignored.I assure you I watch zero mainstream media.
I must have been sleeping when I wrote about the holocaust since I can't remember mentioning it.
But here are some parts of the WW2 mythology:
- that the USA and UK entered the war to help save Europe and protect the Jews.
- that Churchill deserves his place as a national hero and is not really a raving racist and mass murderer, almost equal in number to Hitler.
- that the USA entering the war was the deciding factor.
- that the nuclear bombing of Japan was necessary and not simply a strategic move to prevent Russian influence in the region.
Am sure there are more. These are just a few that sprung to mind.Only Pollyanna believes the US or the UK entered the war to protect the Jews but Churchill cannot be juxtaposed with Hitler. The US entering the war was clearly the deciding factor. Your last point, I will never agree with nuclear bombing but I think it was a strategic move to end the war regardless of Russia. Where did you get your history degree from? My history program was top 20 ranked for the entire time I was there.
Only Pollyanna believes the US or the UK entered the war to protect the Jews but Churchill cannot be juxtaposed with Hitler. The US entering the war was clearly the deciding factor. Your last point, I will never agree with nuclear bombing but I think it was a strategic move to end the war regardless of Russia. Where did you get your history degree from? My history program was top 20 ranked for the entire time I was there.Churchill forced millions of Indians to die of starvation so that he could feed his troops. After all, the troops were white people and the Indians were just savages.
German ill-timed invasion and subsequent defeat in Russia was the deciding factor.
I got my history degree from UYT. Same place I source my news. Mainstream universities are not places of education, they are part of the brainwashing that goes on in the name of western global and elite domination.
FFlintstone69
06-19-24, 07:45
Youtube has the best news channels on the planet bcos they are not controlled by the establishment propaganda machines.
There are no need for whistleblowers or leaks bcos the truth is out. BUt you won't hear it bcos you don't watch Youtube, you only watch the mainstream media where uncomfortable truths are supressed / ignored.LOL ok that's because the owners are part of the oligarchy and very much establishment propaganda machines, and one of thee worst mate!!
Google LOL Overton Window.
https://www.google.com/search?q=google+founder+jewish&rlz=1 CAZJQH_enID1051&oq=google+founder+jewish&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRhA0 gEINTU4 MGowajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.
Elvis 2008
06-20-24, 02:33
It was a couple of months and Guatemala was all shut down and locked down, public transportation shut down, driving bans, parks taped off, etc. And after like two months I started fucking my neighbor in the building, great sex. In particular when I am in other countries, I follow most of their rules, especially when the army is patrolling the streets to enforce them. I really don't argue much with cardloads of masked dudes with automatic weapons.
Did you catch the part about how the airport was closed, all public transportation was shut down, and you weren't allowed to drive between partidos without a permit? So the best pussy in the world could have been ten miles away begging to be fucked and there was no way to get there.
Now call me a Democratic douche.Yeah, you are a Democratic douche because you agreed with what the government was doing and did not get the fuck out of dodge before they shut the country down.
LOL ok that's because the owners are part of the oligarchy and very much establishment propaganda machines, and one of thee worst mate!!
Correct. There are thousands of independent channels on YT. Ofc you can find the major mainstream news networks there too, but they don't occupy the entire airspace, unlike on TV and newsprint. So on YT you have the choice. To listen to independent news or establishment propaganda.
Elvis 2008
06-24-24, 13:46
Correct. There are thousands of independent channels on YT. Ofc you can find the major mainstream news networks there too, but they don't occupy the entire airspace, unlike on TV and newsprint. So on YT you have the choice. To listen to independent news or establishment propaganda.TK, this is the best Covid synopsis I have read. Hope you enjoy it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/radical-left-cant-understand-why-normal-people-are-angry
A bunch of unaccountable technocrats were carrying out gain-of-function experiments on bat viruses and were barred from continuing this line of research by the Obama administration. Even the Department of Defense, whom they later pitched the project to, rejected the program as too dangerous.
So instead of ceasing their work, they farmed out the research that Congress has forbidden and the military rejected, to a Chinese lab in Wuhan via private contractors, and then they deleted emails and paper trails to cover their tracks.
After a pathogen related to that work (a highly contagious one, because they made it that way) leaked from said lab, setting off a global pandemic that kills (by official tallies) over four million people, they manufactured a peer reviewed paper that dismissed any idea of a lab leak as "conspiracy theory".
For the next two years anybody who publicly observes that circumstantial evidence and detailed analysis of the virus itself are highly indicative of a lab leak have their careers destroyed. People are kicked off social media for even talking about it.
In fact, people are deplatformed and canceled for questioning anything about this pandemic:
That the lockdowns were pointless and destructive causing untold harm to children, who were low-risk, that it led to an increase in depression, suicide, domestic violence and bankrupted innumerable small businesses while accomplishing nothing.
That alternative pharmaceutical mitigation techniques like exercise, sunlight, vitamin the were dismissed as New Age Woo Woo while any discourse or content relating to them were deplatformed by Big Tech.
That effective pharmaceutical interventions like Ivermectin already existed but were subjected to government sponsored gaslighting campaigns.
That's just the warm up then the MRNA vaccines come out and the narrative goes into overdrive:
The story starts as "100% safe and effective: 96% immunity" these things are a magic bullet.
Except after a few months, it looks like they don't confer immunity after all (it was time for the CDC to change the definition of the word "vaccine".
Not only that turns out they didn't prevent transmission anyway vaccine mandates were pointless. It turned out later they weren't even tested for that.
And if that wasn't enough, after the smoke cleared (and the pandemic was largely over anyway), excess mortality rates accelerated globally, including instances of myocardis and strokes in young children and middle aged people who were in the prime of their lives.
For the next year, athletes and on-air personalities were dropping like flies on live TV nothing to see here.
Further, this new plateau of "suddenly and unexpected" didn't coincide with the pandemic, perhaps it was climate change? Video games? Nobody could know for sure (but it did match bang-on with the deployment of the vaccines).
Odd that.
In the meantime here in Canada anybody who was asking questions about all this, or objected to their civil rights being violated, who were being compelled to take these shots, were demonized by our own Prime Minister as "misogynists", "racists" and "fringe".
(Then he, and many others when the extent of their wrongness became undeniable, tried claiming "nobody forced you" or they called for "amnesty" for their behaviour).
When a popular revolt in the FreedomConvoy erupted, whose sole stated purpose was to end the vaccine mandates (despite the MSM agitprop to the contrary) the Canadian government enacted martial law, seized bank accounts of participants and contributors and violently suppressed the demonstrators.
Later inquiries showed that practically no aspect of the Freedom Convoy reporting by the MSM were neither accurate nor truthful.
Everything I've outlined above is now established as either circumstantially or documented fact.
Remembering everything we witnessed from the government, from the bureaucrats and especially the corporate media during the pandemic, we are now seeing the same playbooks of ineptitude, deceit and authoritarianism being run on the citizenry worldwide in the form of a so-called "climate crisis".
TK, this is the best Covid synopsis I have read. Hope you enjoy it.
What is more moving than two conspiracy theorists blowing each other while sharing their crackpot videos and articles.
TK, this is the best Covid synopsis I have read. Hope you enjoy it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/radical-left-cant-understand-why-normal-people-are-angry
A bunch of unaccountable technocrats were carrying out gain-of-function experiments on bat viruses and were barred from continuing this line of research by the Obama administration. Even the Department of Defense, whom they later pitched the project to, rejected the program as too dangerous...
Remembering everything we witnessed from the government, from the bureaucrats and especially the corporate media during the pandemic, we are now seeing the same playbooks of ineptitude, deceit and authoritarianism being run on the citizenry worldwide in the form of a so-called "climate crisis".This presents a very accurate version of some of the salient events during the pandemic, and they are all supported by clear evidence.
Unfortunately, the sheeple can do nothing but bleat about conspiracy, when it is obviously them that are engaged in the conspiracy.
Elvis 2008
06-26-24, 14:08
This presents a very accurate version of some of the salient events during the pandemic, and they are all supported by clear evidence.Yeah, and he was fair about the vaccine. I got the vaccine when it was effective. You did not, but you did not see me engaged in the idiotic antivaxx rhetoric like some here. How the hell do you mandate something when you have no idea of its long term effectiveness or side effects that is labeled experimental? The part the author did not put in is the huge payday NIH scientists got hawking the vaccine.
Unfortunately, the sheeple can do nothing but bleat about conspiracy, when it is obviously them that are engaged in the conspiracy.Well, I think here those guys are jealous that they sat scared in their basements when the greatest pussy bonanza in our lives was going on. I do not get how you reject government authority on prostitution and just lay down with them when it comes to Covid. It has to be that I am fucking working girls but government still likes me. Maybe that delusion mindset helps you live your every day life. I don't know. It does not help me.
And I think people forget how bad this really was particularly for Colombia. I was with a Colombian in Mexico when the travel ban hit. She literally got the last flight back into Colombia. For two weeks, she had to isolate, and the Colombian government was actively checking up on her. By the end of that two weeks, she was literally going out of her mind, and I got it. Even the short stint that I had of isolation in the USA in the keep under the curve fiasco made me depressed. I just think people want to forget, which may be better mentally health wise, how fucking awful this Covid fiasco really was.
Mr Enternational
06-26-24, 17:27
I do not get how you reject government authority on prostitution and just lay down with them when it comes to Covid. It has to be that I am fucking working girls but government still likes me. Maybe that delusion mindset helps you live your every day life. I don't know. It does not help me.Well their worries are over. Now the US federal government gets to decide what is misinformation and disinformation on social media and urge the platform owners to remove it.
Well their worries are over. Now the US federal government gets to decide what is misinformation and disinformation on social media and urge the platform owners to remove it.It really is a horrific moment in history that we are living through. This 'thought control' is terrifying. I think one must simply step outside it. Thru living overseas, alternative news, alternative social media channels. Don't let them control the narrative. But I don't see a happy ending to any of this. I am just thankful I don't have a full lifetime to face this BS.
Elvis 2008
06-27-24, 18:17
Well their worries are over. Now the US federal government gets to decide what is misinformation and disinformation on social media and urge the platform owners to remove it.Yeah, I could see why those headlines are there and they are scary. Thing is I read SCOTUS ruled on the suing parties lacking standing and the evidence submitted not being great. The evidence against the government was before the Twitter files. When Elon Musk bought Twitter and had independent journalists ferret out how the government was censoring Twitter, it took these independent journalists like a year to finally get a handle on what the government was doing. Mr. E, I am sure you know how the government hands out a lot of stuff it is illegal for them to do to government contractors and NGOs the government itself funds.
The other excuse given with censorship was Twitter / Facebook ETC were private companies and they not the government was censoring. Of course, the people at those companies were being pressured by government.
Thing is anyone with any objectivity can read the Twitter files and see how the government censored people who did not follow the government narrative on Covid. It is out there now. It is not conspiracy theory but fact.
So while I do not like the SCOTUS ruling, the way SCOTUS has worked with John Roberts at its head has been one ruling for Republicans and one for Dems. Given that SCOTUS is probably going.
To have to rule again with the Trump criminal case fiasco, politically speaking, SCOTUS had to give one to the Dems. I could be wrong, but I think and hope that this is not the green light for government censorship that that headline reads.
Neither. Energy Living has made its name as a place where foreign mongers can stay and not pay room fees for women. The best part of it was seeing all the fine women coming and going. English was spoken more there than Spanish.
My room was about half the size of a typical hotel room and the bed was on par with the shitty ones in strip clubs. Maybe there are nicer apartments there but mine was highly rated on Aibnb and sucked, and I think I paid $100+ a night there. I saw nothing impressive looks wise.
Even with the higher end hotels, the rooms are really pretty much the same as the lower end ones. What separates the high end from low end is the service and the public areas. The higher end hotels have nicer pool areas, gyms, lobbies, and restaurants but those vary. I do not expect any hooker who has seen many of the places to be impressed though. They might put their nose up at the lesser hotels though. Of the high end hotels, the Marriott was the nicest and Intercontinental was second. The best value was the Dann Carlton though, great pool area.
But the main thing with me was the bed comfort for fucking and the guest fees. Though not centrally located, I thought the Fairfield Inn in the Marriott chain was the best for mongers. You can bypass the lobby as it is on like the 7th floor and bring in how ever many women you want and being a Marriott, you can count on a decent bed, hot water, and okay food.
But if you are bringing a woman with you and this Hotel Dorado (I. E. Viliany's La Quinta) really has these Deluxe rooms without guest fees, I would look at getting two rooms there. You get a cheaper room for you and your woman and then a deluxe room to play in. Make sure though you emphasize the other room is not for your woman but solely for playing.Dann Carlton charges a USD $99 guest fee for each girl each day collected at the time the girl registers with reception. The first girl is free if she registers with you at the time of check in. Otherwise she will be subjected to the same policy mentioned above. I wish I had known this at the time of check in but they didn't respond to email inquiries.
KapnAmerica
07-05-24, 19:40
I don't know a single chick that used to take 40 k for sex. Not now, not years ago. Yeah, hoeflation exists everywhere in the world, but like I said, a steak never costs the same as a whopper and never will.I saw (and had) a lot of steaks for the price of whoppers in Peru. Maybe you need to expand your horizons.
Also, just because you have not found any diamonds in the rough in and around Medellíand does not mean that other guys have not found them or that they are not there. The talent pool is way to deep for there to not be gold in those hills. And what girl who is demanding 400 k is going to tell you that she used to put out for Pablo who lives in the casa down the calle for 40 k a pop.
You should be thankful for Pablo and Mr. E for breaking in some these high end girls and teaching them the value of a peso and how to provide good service. That way you get your 400 k worth out of them by the time they get to you. The ones who are actually good in bed and go the extra mile to give you a good experience didn't get that way by having a silver spoon in their mouth and thinking guys should bow down to them from the moment they graduated high school.
But if your definition of a "steak" is a pretty girl with a princess complex and no bedroom skills, or one who will not admit that she learned the ropes from guys like Pablo or Mr. E, then bon Appetit.
I saw (and had) a lot of steaks for the price of whoppers in Peru. Maybe you need to expand your horizons.
Also, just because you have not found any diamonds in the rough in and around Medelland does not mean that other guys have not found them or that they are not there. The talent pool is way to deep for there to not be gold in those hills. And what girl who is demanding 400 k is going to tell you that she used to put out for Pablo who lives in the casa down the calle for 40 k a pop.
You should be thankful for Pablo and Mr. E for breaking in some these high end girls and teaching them the value of a peso and how to provide good service. That way you get your 400 k worth out of them by the time they get to you. The ones who are actually good in bed and go the extra mile to give you a good experience didn't get that way by having a silver spoon in their mouth and thinking guys should bow down to them from the moment they graduated high school.
But if your definition of a "steak" is a pretty girl with a princess complex and no bedroom skills, or one who will not admit that she learned the ropes from guys like Pablo or Mr. E, then bon Appetit.You think a girl should bend over backwards for you for 400 k pesos. Sit there trying to seduce you when she could make triple that in one night on a weekend if she was hot.
What world are you living in? Lmao this is too funny.
Bitter guys who truly don't know the value of money. You expect a beautiful woman to try to seduce you and make you want her when at the end of the day you're paying for her body based on her appearance?? The only girls that work like this are the mediocre or below average girls because they know they can't compete based on beauty. So based on your pov and others it's pretty obvious your level of women. And your comment on Peru because those girls are definitely below average overall.
MaddTraveler
07-06-24, 20:54
I have already answered this in my prior posts. Thank god, Mr E and I fuck different girls, even if these girls come from the same neighborhood. Beauty is not neighborhood dependent. However, most other things, like level of education, median income (and hence, level of desperation when it comes to selling pussy), etc do depend on where a girl lives. The lower her estrato is, the more ghetto she is. What I mean by ghetto, is the way she talks, dresses, carries herself, etc. I try to avoid estrato 1 and 2 chicks and focus on estrato 3 to 5 because in general they are just a better company and provide much better service. But if you think pussy is pussy, and you fuck whatever moves, estrato wouldn't matter much. However, even in the lowest estrato, 40 k pesos will only get you an ugly hood rat.I don't usually reply to you or address you since you're the biggest idiot on here; almost like your trolling cause aint no way you're this slow LOL. But I'll do it for entertainment. Like accommodating a rtarded child.
Some experiences speak for themselves, here in Col, Brazil, Dr, most of the best gems are found in the barrios. Your high mileage, extra makeup, deepthroat experienced high body wgs arent dimes bro. The real prizes are from the poorest areas where we can find inexperienced, submissive, sweet, unspoiled women.
I've met many solid 9's and 10's from SA that actually live in estrato 1-2's. Also how would you differentiate the social classes in other countries with no estrato #s like Col? This rating is only in Col, and it's based on economic aspects of the city / town and has nothing to do with the look of the women LOL. This is by far your worst post. If you didn't come to Col you'd know nothing about Estratos since that doesn't exist in other countries, so stop writing about it as if it's a real thing you dummy.
Think about it! You think that a poor town has some correlation as to how their women look and their personality? You're a clown and lame af bro. The only thing that may be true is their education level, and then again you're not about to marry them so that shouldn't matter either. Besides, real men care more about a woman's feminism, beauty and submissiveness and not her edu or income. Not wgs at least. For Men, status has always been important, pretty much in all cultures. For women not so much.
Men who lack confidence and success in their lives often seek some superficial shit in women to make themselves feel accomplished, and you're really like a tear away from collapsing. All of your posts are cries and low self-esteem issues; and clear shown you're so desperately seeking that in women and from men here. You want to look so good, you spend more or pretending you do, that you get the best quality. Women arent stocks or products bro. Your money can't buy real love or affection, only fake smiles and extra make ups maybe.
Just enjoy your little hourly turn, pay more like a loser to feel better, and be quiet w all that BS.
I don't usually reply to you or address you since you're the biggest idiot on here; almost like your trolling cause aint no way you're this slow LOL. But I'll do it for entertainment. Like accommodating a rtarded child.
Some experiences speak for themselves, here in Col, Brazil, Dr, most of the best gems are found in the barrios. Your high mileage, extra makeup, deepthroat experienced high body wgs arent dimes bro. The real prizes are from the poorest areas where we can find inexperienced, submissive, sweet, unspoiled women.
I've met many solid 9's and 10's from SA that actually live in estrato 1-2's. Also how would you differentiate the social classes in other countries with no estrato #s like Col? This rating is only in Col, and it's based on economic aspects of the city / town and has nothing to do with the look of the women LOL. This is by far your worst post. If you didn't come to Col you'd know nothing about Estratos since that doesn't exist in other countries, so stop writing about it as if it's a real thing you dummy.
Think about it! You think that a poor town has some correlation as to how their women look and their personality? You're a clown and lame af bro. The only thing that may be true is their education level, and then again you're not about to marry them so that shouldn't matter either. Besides, real men care more about a woman's feminism, beauty and submissiveness and not her edu or income. Not wgs at least. For Men, status has always been important, pretty much in all cultures. For women not so much.
Men who lack confidence and success in their lives often seek some superficial shit in women to make themselves feel accomplished, and you're really like a tear away from collapsing. All of your posts are cries and low self-esteem issues; and clear shown you're so desperately seeking that in women and from men here. You want to look so good, you spend more or pretending you do, that you get the best quality. Women arent stocks or products bro. Your money can't buy real love or affection, only fake smiles and extra make ups maybe.
Just enjoy your little hourly turn, pay more like a loser to feel better, and be quiet w all that BS.Are you fucking blind? Go to any shitty part of a major town anywhere in the world and you will see that the environment people grow in definitely affects how they look and behave. Take Miami for example. Go past I-95 to Miami Gardens or Opa Locka, stop by at a local Walmart and see for yourself what ghetto girls look like. Ugly tattoos, and I'm not talking about small tattoos here and there, but tattoos on their hands, fingers, necks, etc. Long ass fake eyelashes and makeup. Wearing pajamas and slippers, wtf? Or see through skirts or tops with no bra underneath. Disgusting. Listen to what they talk about, pay attention to the slang they use. Good luck finding a cute, sweet, classy girl there. Now, Colombia is no different, with the exception that on average Colombianas look better due to genetics and are less overweight. You have met solid 9's and 10's in poor barrios? Okay, prove that. Show them to us. I bet you have no fucking clue what a 9 or 10 is. And what are someone's chances of finding one? 1 in 100? 1 in 1000? I'm pointing out obvious facts while mfs like you always try to point out some exceptions that only prove the general rule? It's like playing a lottery. You can play all your life and not win a dime, but this doesn't mean your chances of winning a jackpot are absolute zero. There is always a chance to win albeit ridiculously small.
And I never said I was into high mileage fake overpriced Gusto-type girls. If you could comprehend my prior posts you would know that I avoid those like the plague.
MaddTraveler
07-07-24, 18:01
Are you fucking blind? Go to any shitty part of a major town anywhere in the world and you will see that the environment people grow in definitely affects how they look and behave. Take Miami for example. Go past I-95 to Miami Gardens or Opa Locka, stop by at a local Walmart and see for yourself what ghetto girls look like. Ugly tattoos, and I'm not talking about small tattoos here and there, but tattoos on their hands, fingers, necks, etc. Long ass fake eyelashes and makeup. Wearing pajamas and slippers, wtf? Or see through skirts or tops with no bra underneath. Disgusting. Listen to what they talk about, pay attention to the slang they use. Good luck finding a cute, sweet, classy girl there. Now, Colombia is no different, with the exception that on average Colombianas look better due to genetics and are less overweight. You have met solid 9's and 10's in poor barrios? Okay, prove that. Show them to us. I bet you have no fucking clue what a 9 or 10 is. And what are someone's chances of finding one? 1 in 100? 1 in 1000? I'm pointing out obvious facts while mfs like you always try to point out some exceptions that only prove the general rule? It's like playing a lottery. You can play all your life and not win a dime, but this doesn't mean your chances of winning a jackpot are absolute zero. There is always a chance to win albeit ridiculously small.
And I never said I was into high mileage fake overpriced Gusto-type girls. If you could comprehend my prior posts you would know that I avoid those like the plague.You're right man. Going forward I will stay away from estrato 1 and 2 girls. Because somehow the zoning rating affects their brain and their skin or how they look. Why didn't I see that before? Preciate the enlightenment brother.
Matter of fact I'll add this question to all my greetings: "Hola, como estas? Donde vives amiga que estrato?" and I'll even make sure they arent sneaky like if they say 3 or 4, I'll even ask if they were born from a 1 and 2 or moved from a 1 and 2. That way I can ensure they have good genetics due to a higher economic class and have had better milk. The beauty secrets may well be in the better groceries, who knows. But you got it!!
Mr Enternational
07-07-24, 19:00
I was just watching a video on luxury handbags and it reminded me so much of the discussion in this thread. All you have to do it change out the word handbags and put in high-priced hoes. These are points the reporter made:
1. Pretty much all the bags are made in China the same as all those hoes come from Bello.
2. It all boils down to human psychology.
3. It gives people a sense of accomplishment to buy one.
4. Higher price almost never means higher quality.
5. Scarcity is used to drive up prices. There are only 3 9's and 1 10 in the world so take one at any price.
6. The comapnies prey on people's sense of insecurity and need for validation. The refined Ivy League graduate, Victoria Secret model that speaks the king's English who I found in Gusto's and gave 1 million pesos to is better than the one-legged, stank-pussy, crackhead who fucks 280 guys per day that you gave 40 K to downtown.
I was just watching a video on luxury handbags and it reminded me so much of the discussion in this thread. All you have to do it change out the word handbags and put in high-priced hoes. These are points the reporter made:
1. Pretty much all the bags are made in China the same as all those hoes come from Bello.
2. It all boils down to human psychology.
3. It gives people a sense of accomplishment to buy one.
4. Higher price almost never means higher quality.
5. Scarcity is used to drive up prices. There are only 3 9's and 1 10 in the world so take one at any price.
6. The comapnies prey on people's sense of insecurity and need for validation. The refined Ivy League graduate, Victoria Secret model that speaks the king's English who I found in Gusto's and gave 1 million pesos to is better than the one-legged, stank-pussy, crackhead who fucks 280 guys per day that you gave 40 K to downtown.You ever see a more bitter human than this? Statement number 6 says it all.
Higher price almost never means higher quality huh??lmao. I actually feel bad for you man. You can quote my posts all you want I'm simply not going to reply anymore.
You ever see a more bitter human than this? Statement number 6 says it all.
Higher price almost never means higher quality huh??lmao. I actually feel bad for you man. You can quote my posts all you want I'm simply not going to reply anymore.I have been mongering since I was 15 years old and #6 is totally correct concerning hookers. Higher prices almost never means higher quality. I absolutely have seen no correlation anywhere in the world (mongered on five continents) between the price I paid the hooker and how good the experience was. None. Zero.
Mr Enternational
07-08-24, 16:29
You ever see a more bitter human than this? Statement number 6 says it all.So bitter that I am in Barranquilla at the moment chilling with a chick that is not a hooker. No need to worry about 400 K or even 40 K. Am I getting what I am paying for? So don't feel bad for me; feel bad for yourself. Every statement was a paraphrase made from the video. It was not my original content, but similarities I noticed between the two subjects.
You can quote my posts all you want I'm simply not going to reply anymore.This is a public forum where people quote any post they are responding to. So do not feel that your posts in particular are so special. Maybe special ed content wise though.
You ever see a more bitter human than this? Statement number 6 says it all.I think he is being sarcastic with the extreme because those women in his post can make their own money, but only he can answer it. MB1 has very few choices to make him happy, while the opposite have broader choices. Who do you think will be more satisfied on a day-to-day basis? Why do you visit Colombia, instead of staying in USA, not because of the cost difference? If it is, then you should know how they feel all the time.
Higher price almost never means higher quality huh??lmao. I actually feel bad for you man. You can quote my posts all you want I'm simply not going to reply anymore.You don't go to Gusto anymore, right? If so, I think you actually agree with him to some degree. He has more choices or easier to satisfy his need than you. Why are you feeling bad for him?
400 K is a lot of money in Colombia, but it is not a lot of money when in a room full of foreigners is what I am reading. That is like when I am talking to a chick from a third world country and she tells me the amount of something is not much. Then when I tell her to pay it, it is crickets. It is not much money when it is coming out if your pocket, but it is a lot of money when it is coming out of theirs..
I know a chick that pays the babysitter 30 K to keep a kid overnight. That babysitter would need to keep 13 kids for that kind of dosh.And I know plenty of chicks that would laugh at you if you're opening is 400 k. This girl would need 400 k just to get met nails and make up done.
I think he is being sarcastic with the extreme because those women in his post can make their own money, but only he can answer it. MB1 has very few choices to make him happy, while the opposite have broader choices. Who do you think will be more satisfied on a day-to-day basis? Why do you visit Colombia, instead of staying in USA, not because of the cost difference? If it is, then you should know how they feel all the time.
You don't go to Gusto anymore, right? If so, I think you actually agree with him to some degree. He has more choices or easier to satisfy his need than you. Why are you feeling bad for him?He's a bitter guy who has an obvious hatred for women. And especially those that are smart enough to hustle their way into better situations to make big $ and have expensive things even in a country like Colombia. He's just very bitter. And lately he feels the need to quote everything I say. He always loves to point out his one or two time exceptions to the rules. Never posts pics of the type of girls he pays to bang then goes on to judge what others are not worth.
TheDerilious
07-08-24, 19:43
I have been mongering since I was 15 years old and #6 is totally correct concerning hookers. Higher prices almost never means higher quality. I absolutely have seen no correlation anywhere in the world (mongered on five continents) between the price I paid the hooker and how good the experience was. None. Zero.I understand your point but that statement is very hyperbolic. You are correct that price paid doesn't determine a higher quality experience; You can pay 1 million dollars for a top model and get a 0/10 experience, for sure. There is no denying this but it's insane to claim that higher prices have no correlation with better quality. A higher price tag usually entails a few noticeable benefits; attractiveness, baseline service, illusion of passion, amenities (incall apartment), to name a few. Does that mean you will get all of those? No, it doesn't. Does it mean that the increase in price is worth the benefits, it may not either. But you're no better than the idiots claiming that price paid = better experience if you say the opposite.
A better statement is; Higher prices correlates to a higher floor of service. It doesn't guarantee anything, but you have a much higher chance of getting the benefits you want. For example, it's much harder to get a good GFE experience in a bang and dash, 30 minute place. The average attractiveness of a Loutron girl is definitely higher than some cheap ass casa. For a personal example; I've had some bad experiences at K-girl agencies in the US, but there was a baseline to the service that always superseded the cheaper latina houses in the area.
Let's not get too silly with our statements on price meaning nothing.
Let's not get too silly with our statements on price meaning nothing.You have a point except there are too many variables in your example.
I think in this context, a better one will be two girls 1, and 2. You will wine and dine your date out in a restaurant, then back to apartment for sex. Which one will provide better experience? I think this is closer to the type of date MB1 is used to so I guess a more educated and better dressed one will be better for him because they have more to talk about, and that yield to better result in the bed but it is still hard to say for someone else.
If someone has the date in an apartment and still wine and dine, it could be the opposite and cost far less. And then there there are many who are not interest in this at all.
As far as Centro goes, point and shoot is not the only style. Centro to some is a place to socialize and that can achieve the same purpose.
I understand your point but that statement is very hyperbolic. You are correct that price paid doesn't determine a higher quality experience; You can pay 1 million dollars for a top model and get a 0/10 experience, for sure. There is no denying this but it's insane to claim that higher prices have no correlation with better quality. A higher price tag usually entails a few noticeable benefits; attractiveness, baseline service, illusion of passion, amenities (incall apartment), to name a few. Does that mean you will get all of those? No, it doesn't. Does it mean that the increase in price is worth the benefits, it may not either. But you're no better than the idiots claiming that price paid = better experience if you say the opposite.
A better statement is; Higher prices correlates to a higher floor of service. It doesn't guarantee anything, but you have a much higher chance of getting the benefits you want. For example, it's much harder to get a good GFE experience in a bang and dash, 30 minute place. The average attractiveness of a Loutron girl is definitely higher than some cheap ass casa. For a personal example; I've had some bad experiences at K-girl agencies in the US, but there was a baseline to the service that always superseded the cheaper latina houses in the area.
Let's not get too silly with our statements on price meaning nothing.I disagree that fucking a top model can be a 0/10 experience. Yes, she could be lame as fuck in bed, but for most men having a naked top model in their bed is a once in a lifetime event. Even if she is a star fish, even if she is bitchy or annoying. Even if the only service she provides is a handjob. So it can't be an absolute zero. Maybe a few points out of 10.
it's insane to claim that higher prices have no correlation with better quality. A higher price tag usually entails a few noticeable benefits; attractiveness, baseline service, illusion of passion, amenities Not in my personal experience, anywhere, ever, especially not the "illusion of passion. " Amenities-wise, yes, you will pay more for a chica with an apartment than a chica you have to take to a hotel, overall and in general, but that's just paying for an apartment, not the chica. You could pay X amount more for a chica with an apartment, or you could pay X for a hotel, or you could pay X for her to come to your place. I don't go to places like Loutron and I don't go to cheap ass casas either so maybe that's why my personal experience is not what you would like for it to have been to prove your point.
You will wine and dine your date out in a restaurant.So now we're talking about the price of the meal, not the price of the chica. Since the next hooker I "wine and dine" will be the first one, that doesn't invalidate my own personal experience either.
So bitter that I am in Barranquilla at the moment chilling with a chick that is not a hooker. No need to worry about 400 K or even 40 K. Am I getting what I am paying for? So don't feel bad for me; feel bad for yourself. Every statement was a paraphrase made from the video. It was not my original content, but similarities I noticed between the two subjects.
This is a public forum where people quote any post they are responding to. So do not feel that your posts in particular are so special. Maybe special ed content wise though.Oh I would love to see what that girl looks like.
I would show you pics of my exes all day. And I've had Colombian women pay for my trips and expensive gifts all day.
And oh by the way this is a hooker forum. I hire hookers because I want to not because I want to.
I don't go for bottom of the barrel girls that are so desperate they'll shack up with any man. I go for girls that have options and are doing well so there's a realistic chance she'll turn me down if I wanted something serious. Your game is so obvious. Come on bro show us this beauty. I've posted pics of my ex and other girls I banged. Show us what you're made of? Lmao.
Mr Enternational
07-09-24, 00:22
You can quote my posts all you want I'm simply not going to reply anymore.Damn, you sure changed your mind quick. Just like a broad.
And I know plenty of chicks that would laugh at you if you're opening is 400 k.Unlike you, I do not care about a hooker laughing. Hell I am already paying her for sex and she is the one fucking for money. Should I really be the one that is ashamed? Do you ever get tired of holding them hoes up on pedastals?
He's a bitter guy who has an obvious hatred for women. Never posts pics of the type of girls he pays to bang then goes on to judge what others are not worth.Are you only stupid or are you dumb as well? In all these years I have posted hundreds of chicks that I have actually fucked from my actual camera and phone. Matter of fact didn't I just post some last week talking about Help in Rio? Not like you pulling some random picture off the internet saying well I like to fuck girls like this.
Sorry, I am having a hard time typing in the back of this taxi since I am in Colombia and not in my mom's basement talking about about the chicks I would like to fuck instead of ones that I have actually fucked.
Damn. We just stopped next to a BMW SUV. Maybe there is a hooker inside laughing about someone offering her 400 K. Wait a minute! Just wait a damn minute. Aren't you the guy that came on here BITTER that some guy bought a hooker a car just like that? Yeah that was you. Maybe it was just jealousy and not bitterness though.
Please don't ever make fun of guys overpaying because if we pay more for pussy it's just for pussy.
But some guy just bought her a BMW suv. LOL. I know at least 6-7 guys who have raw dogged and CIM her including myself and the friends I passed her around too for 200-250 mil.Look at you HATING on a hoe! And this also begs a new question. You say you passed her around for 200 K. Did she laugh at that the same as the chicks you know that laugh at 400 K? And you also mentioned THAT to be overpaying? Funny. Because there is also another time you mentioned overpaying.
I will confess that my first couple trips to medellin I definitely overpaid a couple girls from Gustos. I was only there for a 4 day weekend and didn't know better. HA girl quoted me a price of 200 usd and instead of negotiating So chicks are laughing at 400 K, but you are paying them 200 K, after you learned your lesson about paying them $200. Dude you are all over the place. You need to check the carbon monoxide monitor in that basement.
Maybe one day you will inform us of how much we should actually be paying. We need to make a chart with all the figures you have brought up. 40 k is not enough. 50 k is not even enough to give a chick for walking outside with you. 200 K was overpaying a chick that owns a BMW. 400 K will get you laughed at by a chick that needs to do her nails. You did not know any better when you paid $200. Girl go on with that bullshit! It is looking like you, math, and truth do not get along.
TheDerilious
07-09-24, 02:14
You have a point except there are too many variables in your example.
I think in this context, a better one will be two girls 1, and 2. You will wine and dine your date out in a restaurant, then back to apartment for sex. Which one will provide better experience? I think this is closer to the type of date MB1 is used to so I guess a more educated and better dressed one will be better for him because they have more to talk about, and that yield to better result in the bed but it is still hard to say for someone else.
If someone has the date in an apartment and still wine and dine, it could be the opposite and cost far less. And then there there are many who are not interest in this at all.
As far as Centro goes, point and shoot is not the only style. Centro to some is a place to socialize and that can achieve the same purpose.In your example, the payment is also a "bet" on the floor expectations of the girl. For example, the girl that you wine and dine at the restaurant is less likely to dress like a slouch. It is more likely she will dress up and present a pleasing appearance. The girl at your apartment is more likely to dress down because there is no need to go out.
The girl who has been wined and dined in a restaurant may feel more inclined to sleep with her suitor and put in some good effort because of the effort he has put in or because she has a more enjoyable time being out and about on the town (this is a thing that women will do, from my experience).
You can also point to the time wasted in the apartment date to cook the food. You could cook your girl an amazing meal that she truly appreciates, but it is also time you "wasted" to save money. It may be easier for some to spend extra to have cooked food and enjoy the night more themselves.
As you said, there are too many variables to count that can make or break a sexual session, and it is my view that paying for a "top-end" experience (within reason, of course) can have tangible benefits in pushing some of those variables into a positive zone where they might be in a cheaper session.
Centro is not my style per se, but I have nothing against it. I am simply a tourist so it just doesn't match my needs. I come to visit family who live in the area but I am in and out within a 1-2 weeks. I.
Don't have the time to waste by going to a undesirable spot and trying to socialize with random girls, hoping there is one that I like. It is the benefit that all long-term residents or expats have where they can put feet on the ground to find those diamonds in the rough. They can cook that amazing meal in hopes of getting the reward they desire.
Mr Enternational
07-09-24, 03:47
In your example, the payment is also a "bet" on the floor expectations of the girl. For example, the girl that you wine and dine at the restaurant is less likely to dress like a slouch. It is more likely she will dress up and present a pleasing appearance. The girl at your apartment is more likely to dress down because there is no need to go out.
The girl who has been wined and dined in a restaurant may feel more inclined to sleep with her suitor and put in some good effort because of the effort he has put in or because she has a more enjoyable time being out and about on the town (this is a thing that women will do, from my experience).Well we fucked before we came to eat and we are both at the restaurant wearing shorts and t-shirts. There was no effort on either part. We were both horny and hungry.
All that work the waitress did for 11 K tip, while some say a hooker that walks outside with you at Gusto's is entitled to 100 K.
In your example, the payment is also a "bet" on the floor expectations of the girl.... (this is a thing that women will do, from my experience).
The girls are going to dress how they usually dress. The point is the type of girls that MB1 prefers will more likely dress for the occasion correctly. It's work so it means longer working hours but depending on girls. Most girls I know do not want to go to restaurant.
but it is also time you "wasted" to save money. It may be easier for some to spend extra to have cooked food and enjoy the night more themselves.
You got it wrong here. You don't have to cook. You can splurge to order from Rappi or it can be as simple as a plate of fruit which I will already have with or without the girl. Compare going to the restaurant, you will save time even if you have to prepare. You can eat, drink naked, or dance topless and other things that you can't do in a restaurant. All for as little as 1 USD that yields better result than spending a lot more going to a restaurant. Hehe.
Mr Enternational
07-09-24, 18:12
I hire hookers because I want to not because I want to.Cocaine is a helluva drug!
Elvis 2008
07-10-24, 13:49
I was just watching a video on luxury handbags and it reminded me so much of the discussion in this thread. All you have to do it change out the word handbags and put in high-priced hoes. These are points the reporter made:
1. Pretty much all the bags are made in China the same as all those hoes come from Bello.
2. It all boils down to human psychology.Of all the women I was with in Medellin, none were from Bello. I am not sure what does not have to do with human psychology.
3. It gives people a sense of accomplishment to buy one.Nah, that was only in the beginning. After that, it was for my pleasure. For women, the bag is kind of like a woman for the man. It is a sign of net worth. A woman has a Gucci bag much like some men have a 9-10 on their arm. It shows they have value.
4. Higher price almost never means higher quality.What is the goal of having the purse? If it is just to hold your shit in, then yeah, they probably do the job the same. Ironically, I used to go to Mexico or buy fake purses on line. They were high value gifts. The women used them and loved them. Many did not care if they were fake or if they looked good. However, one gave me a master class on a fake bag, and there were huge differences in quality between the counterfeit bags and the real things.
5. Scarcity is used to drive up prices. There are only 3 9's and 1 10 in the world so take one at any price.
6. The comapnies prey on people's sense of insecurity and need for validation. The refined Ivy League graduate, Victoria Secret model that speaks the king's English who I found in Gusto's and gave 1 million pesos to is better than the one-legged, stank-pussy, crackhead who fucks 280 guys per day that you gave 40 K to downtown.This is where your metaphor falls apart. You do not have to have Victoria Secret dimensions to be a 10. The reason you brought it up is because you still think the women you are fucking are the same as the ones I am and did. You yourself said that the hottest women at Loutron's are not going to get your money. That is an admission the hottest women intimidate you. Maybe you have a reverse snobbery but something is up with you guys and your constant griping about guys looking for better, and I think it is you all are scared to get better.
The hottest woman I met in Colombia was not my gal. She was one who IMO lowered her standards to meet me because there were so few guys after the pandemic. With her, all the comments you made are valid. With her attitude, I was shocked that she was slightly above average in bed. I have been with high dollar Penthouse Pet and girl from Playboy, and they were among the lamest lays of my life.
The second hottest in Colombia was my current gal. I asked her to send me a bikini photo of her, and I remember her looking so good, I got mad. The anger was a front for fear. I was wondering how this girl was going to fuck me over. It is that fear driving you guys. You can look at the above three women I described in the last paragraph as justification for your not paying the bigger $$.
It took me a full year to feel secure with my gal. When I speak of a line of guys wanting to buy a gal a drink, she meets that description. Outside of age, she has Victoria Secrets dimensions and personality. Unlike so many women this hot, she has friends and is very supportive of them.
But unlike with her looks and performance, and I have had women who match her, there is the compliment from her that she is the ultimate woman for me: I stopped chasing other women. When you guys say, I have a girlfriend, my follow up is have you stopped seeing other women? If not, she is really not that great in your eyes.
Hookers are fast food. They satisfy a hunger but they do not compare to steak, and they certainly do not compare to a woman who prepares a steak with the secret sauce she serves only to you. That is the ultimate, and you are dreaming if you think you get that in any place that serves the masses.
The best women only poke their heads out for a bit, and the reason is they are swooped up quickly. You guys talk about women where a 100,000 COP is a lot. I am in a world where I see families putting down between $5000 and $10,000 for a Quincera. I just met a friend of my gals who was an Au Pair in San Francisco to a wealthy woman, got a degree, and is living in Europe in an apartment with she and her husband and they split the $3000 a month rent. That is what the best women in Colombia do. They are not on the street or working at Gusto's.
And maybe there is a set of women in the USA as talented as my gal's daughter's friends but if so, I have not seen it. All of them have taken on the hardest dance moves in the world and have been able to perform them. That is what they do for their Quniceras. Just like with everything else thrown at them, when it comes to sex, they will master that when the time comes. Some are already making money modeling. The concept of women desperate for $25 is one I do not see in this world.
Getting back to the bag / purse analogy, no one wants to produce the ultimate, the purse you buy and have no desire to have any other because it is the best for you.
What has been fostered onto men is the Romantic notion of oneitis. What that means is you are desperate to find the one and you pursue that "one" to fit into society even at the expense of your own happiness. I was like that. I had everything society said was supposed to make me happy, but I was not. Once the dream became a nightmare, I finally stepped out and admitted to everyone all the different women I was seeing. Of course, it was not anything anyone else can emulate.
What you guys do not get is not that my woman is stunning. If she were aloof and gave of the air of a gold digger, no one would want what I have. It is the adoration. It is my being happy that is what makes others say, "If Elvis got this kind of happiness, I want it too. " And that is what is changing with others around me.
My own mother and I had the kind of frank discussions that are rarely ever had. She told me about her sex life with my father and the concept of my very own mother wanting a better sex life was something I never considered once I opened up about mine. She wanted to know what is was like to have a fulfilling sex life. She has told me I was her inspiration to step out and get on a dating site and now she has a BF and is happy. LOL.
And I told a friend of mine to have a frank discussion with his wife. I told him do not argue with her. Arguing with a woman is a waste of time. Tell her you are not happy and see if she is not happy and then make changes to your marriage or get out of it if your views do not mesh. As long as the goal is mutual happiness, there should not have to be any blame. His wife was engaging in emasculating behavior and that kind of talk is accepted in society but if you engage it in, and your man has any balls, he is going to get his testosterone back up seeing someone else.
Another friend, a lifelong bachelor, is looking at getting serious with a Colombian friend of my gals. He is like maybe I can be happy with this one woman and have a child with her.
When I spoke of earning my monogamy, it goes against the feminist doctrine of consent that is drilled into a woman's head. My ex used to say, "We cannot use sex for sleep" and "I am not going to suck that if it is dirty". Where the hell do women think that saying these things leads to a faithful man? Earning my monogamy means making yourself attractive to me and fulfilling my sexual needs. If I am going to rally against my nature of wanting to fuck everything that moves, you are going to have to be so important to my happiness that I would not step out on you.
Too often, that is the choice: paying for sex with a woman who cares about your happiness in the short term to get a buck versus one who thinks she can get away with pissing all over you because of some promise. I swear the goal in the USA is to kiss woman's asses so badly that men are willing to pay any amount of money to have sex. Hell, we now have women who have fattened themselves up and make us say, "Oh, you ladies are so beautiful". WTF? We all know no one thinks fat men should be models. So yeah, the guys who are seeing hookers in Colombia have at least had the sense to move on from these horrible American women.
But they have stopped there. Saying it does not get better than fast food or where the masses are served is just another form of quitting. Yeah, sure there are ripoffs out there. Women who will tell you want to hear for a buck and suck your dick for a buck and once they get it turn themselves into the emasculating witches we see in the Western world.
However, you should not be putting down guys who want to do better. You guys and your fucking GFs. Instead of looking for those little moments of pleasure, ask yourself what would it take for one woman to make you happy and strive for that. Sure, it is going to be painful when you are played and see that a woman is not the one, but you cannot win if you are not playing. MB is trying to do better, and you guys are not. That is why you are putting him down. You want him to sink to your level.
And maybe you do not meet that one woman who can fulfill your needs. I was happy in my SB world. If I had to go back, it would not be the worst thing in the world. But please just stop with the bullshit that the best food in the world is found in places that serve the masses. That may satiate hunger, but it is not the best, and you are full of shit if you think there is not better.
TheDerilious
07-10-24, 14:21
The girls are going to dress how they usually dress. The point is the type of girls that MB1 prefers will more likely dress for the occasion correctly. It's work so it means longer working hours but depending on girls. Most girls I know do not want to go to restaurant.
You got it wrong here. You don't have to cook. You can splurge to order from Rappi or it can be as simple as a plate of fruit which I will already have with or without the girl. Compare going to the restaurant, you will save time even if you have to prepare. You can eat, drink naked, or dance topless and other things that you can't do in a restaurant. All for as little as 1 USD that yields better result than spending a lot more going to a restaurant. Hehe.I have never known women to prefer more than a few weekend nights chilling at home before they start clamoring to go do something outside (go to a new restaurant or event). The whole point is that I think spending more for something is not necessarily a scam. There is always a point where something overpriced so make sure you are spending within reason, but the idea that all prostitutes are the same so you should always go for the cheapest option literally defies all conventional logic in all other situations. Even in your home example, you still added 1 USD to the cost of the date, so you are making the point I'm making. You added money to the equation to improve your experience. That's what I'm saying. Again, you shouldn't pay for a 10 course meal for a chick on the first date (and you probably don't need to pay thousands of USD for an OF model) but it makes sense to pay extra for a better experience if it improves your odds of having a successful date. Everyone needs to try out different options and see what works for them to give them the best results.
Mr Enternational
07-10-24, 14:51
Again, you shouldn't pay for a 10 course meal for a chick on the first date (and you probably don't need to pay thousands of USD for an OF model) but it makes sense to pay extra for a better experience if it improves your odds of having a successful date. Everyone needs to try out different options and see what works for them to give them the best results.Thing about that is that you only get one first date. You do not know what will improve your odds. Women already know if they want to fuck you when they meet you. So I do not know if you calling yourself improving odds is really doing anything at all. People are different. What turns one person on may be a complete turnoff for another.
Keep it simple. Go get ice cream with a chick. Keep your mouth closed and let her do all the talking. I have talked myself out of so much pussy by saying something a chick did not like. I am the type of mf that will say anything to anybody, so.
The last American chick I went on a first date with, we went to a Thai restaurant. I spent $100 and never heard from her again. If the chick is a hooker then I am already paying, so there are no odds to be improved anyway.
I really wish this forum would get back to just talking and giving practical advice about Medellin. But I wanted to reply to this post. Your perceptions of top escorts in the US is incorrect. A top-rated escort (model like looks, not girl-next door) in Miami who does a great GFE and more, with top ratings everywhere, is around $500/ HR. And she doesn't really watch the clock at that rate. Other top ones can be found for $350-400/ HR. Sure; you can always find exceptions that charge more (nothing is separated faster than a fool and his money), but the US top talent average is nowhere near the 1 K you quote.
If you talk to Medellin pros (those who have been doing this actively for 3 years or more), you will learn that yes, Medellin is not what it once was. But not the way you think. They tell me that it is harder and more difficult to find good clients, the 'party-bros' are terrible clients, and the previous wave of retirees and remote workers was much better. Some are moving away to Spain and other locations because they feel Medellin is 'drying up' for good clients. Just because you find the Instagram for some lucky ones who did trips doesn't mean they are all doing trips. While inflation is making everything more expensive, these girls tell me they are having to settle for $300-ish even if that is worth less to them than it was two years ago.
But let's talk what girls charge. They don't have a 'set price'. Most girls relate the money they get to frequency of work. Lots of $300 K guys means they need to get 3-4 (or more) a week to meet their financial needs. Find two $600 k guys and you did the same for half the work. There isn't the biggest 'business sense' here, if they hit their financial budget -- they go to party or shopping, they aren't wise enough to keep working to 'get ahead'. I've explained it before, the girls work with a range, usually looking at a mental minimum. They will take all you are willing to give them, but most will settle for a minimum of $300 k. Doesn't mean they will be thrilled and will most likely want to get a 2nd client that night. If they get $400-500 k then they seem to be more happy and less concerned and will hang with you all night. At $600 k I find most are willing to spend the night unless there's a child / pet situation that needs advance arrangement.
Asking initially for $600 k-$900 k in Park Llares is common as it is 'twice as hard and twice as dangerous' and a lot of party-bros are idiots, so might as well make the money and compensate for the fact that good hookups at the park are more difficult. But it doesn't mean those girls at the park clubs are better off financially or of higher quality. It is just the reality of the place and situation.300 k minimum doesn't make them thrilled? How about 40 k "gems" that some mfs have been talking about recently? To make 400 k they got to serve 10 dicks LOL.
4. Higher price almost never means higher quality.100%.
I had a friend that had a thriving business. He purchased the same bags made for the luxury brands. He then added the items that made them unique after the bag was purchased. He sold them for 10% of the price of the "originals". How did he do this? These companies make a production run. If the run is for 1000 then they run 1200 - 1300 and sell the remainder to an off brander like my friend. Everyone wins.
Now higher price can mean higher quality. But usually the value of the quality is in the eyes of the individual purchaser. I think Apple Products are superior. They cost more than the equivalent version of the competing brands. I pay those costs. Because I value what I get out of Apple Products. I have an Android Phone and a Pixel. Do they do the job they were designed for? They sure do. So, why do I prefer Apple Products? Is it because they are of higher quality? No. It is because of my personal preferences. That's all. My android and pixel phones function just fine. I just prefer the Apple UI.
Pussy is Pussy
They tell me that it is harder and more difficult to find good clients, the 'party-bros' are terrible clients, and the previous wave of retirees and remote workers was much better.
Asking initially for $600 k-$900 k in Park Llares is common as it is 'twice as hard and twice as dangerous' and a lot of party-bros are idiots, so might as well make the money and compensate for the fact that good hookups at the park are more difficult.Can you explain to me who the "party-bros" are? I am unfamiliar with that term.
I really wish this forum would get back to just talking and giving practical advice about Medellin.
But let's talk what girls charge. They don't have a 'set price'. Most girls relate the money they get to frequency of work. Lots of $300 K guys means they need to get 3-4 (or more) a week to meet their financial needs. Find two $600 k guys and you did the same for half the work. There isn't the biggest 'business sense' here, if they hit their financial budget -- they go to party or shopping, they aren't wise enough to keep working to 'get ahead'. I've explained it before, the girls work with a range, usually looking at a mental minimum. They will take all you are willing to give them, but most will settle for a minimum of $300 k. Doesn't mean they will be thrilled and will most likely want to get a 2nd client that night. If they get $400-500 k then they seem to be more happy and less concerned and will hang with you all night. At $600 k I find most are willing to spend the night unless there's a child / pet situation that needs advance arrangement.
Asking initially for $600 k-$900 k in Park Llares is common as it is 'twice as hard and twice as dangerous' and a lot of party-bros are idiots, so might as well make the money and compensate for the fact that good hookups at the park are more difficult. But it doesn't mean those girls at the park clubs are better off financially or of higher quality. It is just the reality of the place and situation.Good, common sense post. Thank you.
I have never known women to prefer more than a few weekend nights chilling at home before they start clamoring to go do something outside...I did not say they are all the same. I provided two different examples. It is more about what is effective and what type of woman you are buying service from.
I am giving what they want and not what I think they want. If they are hungry, I gave them my phone to order anything they want from Rappi after sex if I like the girl. What I have observed is they just want to do their job in the shortest amount of time possible, but they will spend enough time that is necessary to satisfy me for the repeat business because they think I live here and the ease of withdraw money when they need it from this ATM. Haha.
TheDerilious
07-11-24, 02:12
Now higher price can mean higher quality. But usually the value of the quality is in the eyes of the individual purchaser. I think Apple Products are superior. They cost more than the equivalent version of the competing brands. I pay those costs. Because I value what I get out of Apple Products. I have an Android Phone and a Pixel. Do they do the job they were designed for? They sure do. So, why do I prefer Apple Products? Is it because they are of higher quality? No. It is because of my personal preferences. That's all. My android and pixel phones function just fine. I just prefer the Apple UI.I'm sorry but this is a just patently false. You guys are referencing a difference in products whose price points are geared for the upper-middle class to the super rich. For real poor and middle class people, who have gone through life with shitty dollar store stuff, they would never make this statement. Go to Dollar General and buy some forks and tell me how quickly they bend, break, and rust compared to a normal stainless-steel set. Go buy a shitty $25 dollar phone and tell me how well it runs Android compared to a new Pixel. Go to a free clinic and tell me what kind of care you are getting there compared to a doctor who takes your company-sponsored insurance. Maybe you have lived the good life for too long or maybe you've never had to struggle a real day, but the majority of actual working class folk understand that price has a meaningful impact on the products and services they depend on. It's why most people seek to get out of poverty so they can afford to meaningfully improve their lives (usually by being able to just purchase things that improve their standard of living).
You guys keep bringing up Gucci bags and yachts but ignore things like doctors, education, and every fundamental part of your life that is improved when you can pay to get a quality output. As I've said repeatedly, extremism on both sides does no good. Paying out the nose for Gucci bags is stupid, just like choosing to be a cheapskate is also looked down on. When you show a lack of understanding about how quality works and then say something like all "Pussy is Pussy", readers who do spend more and get better service may shift over to the other extreme. When they take your advice and go to Centro for hours and don't find that diamond in the rough, they may just decide that you were full of it and go to the other extreme. Preach intelligent improvement, not dogma and dick waving.
TheDerilious
07-11-24, 02:40
Thing about that is that you only get one first date. You do not know what will improve your odds. Women already know if they want to fuck you when they meet you. So I do not know if you calling yourself improving odds is really doing anything at all.Absolutely not. That's what we (guys) do. If a girl is hot enough for us (or if we are desperate enough to overlook it), she would have do something supremely f'ed up to make us move on, and even then, most of us would still do it just to get our dicks wet.
Luckily for us, women tend to be more receptive. I've had girlfriends and Tinder hookups tell me they weren't sure about hooking up for a variety of reasons) but then changing their mind when a date went well. We call it Rizz nowadays but it's gone by many names over the years; Charm, aura, game, etc. But what's important is, it doesn't just have to do with how you dress or initial impressions, but how you woo people over to your own desires when you interact with them.
Mongering is nice for many guys because the money part lets them get away with having less charm while still getting more of what they want. It can help fill in the gap to a certain extent.
Mr Enternational
07-11-24, 03:18
You guys keep bringing up Gucci bags and yachts but ignore things like doctors, education, and every fundamental part of your life that is improved when you can pay to get a quality output.Well that is because hookers put yachts and Gucci bags on their instagram. When they start posting their doctors and degrees we can talk about how their lives are improving. But until then they will just turn back into pumpkins at a certain point. Enjoy the ride.
I believe they are the same lot who are also referred to as weekend warriors or one week millionaires, short term visitors who spend freely before heading back to reality.
Can you explain to me who the "party-bros" are? I am unfamiliar with that term.
Pussy or vagina is a part of the physical anatomy of a girl.
Pussy is Pussy
Now some guys pay for access to the pussy, ass or mouth of a girl. They also pay for them to participate in activities they think will give them pleasure. Since all girls have a mouth, pussy and ass. Please tell me how quality varies. You cannot.
Because when someone pays more or less for the items and services listed above what they are doing is paying for the pussy life support system of the pussy. THAT is what has different qualities that drive individuals to pay different amounts for what is the exact same set of anatomical items available on any given girl all over the world.
Im sorry but this is a just patently falseThe only reason you should be sorry is because you do not know the difference between a fact and an opinion. Everyone is allowed their own opinion but not their own facts. We differ in opinions. You are not right. Neither am I.
When you show a lack of understanding about how quality works and then say something like all "Pussy is Pussy", readers who do spend more and get better service may shift over to the other extreme. Exactly how did I show a lack of understanding of the meaning of quality? Quality is not an absolute thing. Prostitutes are mechanics. You hire them to drain your balls. Do you take your vehicle to the mechanic and pay more to you mechanic to have your oil changed?
If we take two computers and compare technical specifications you are going to get different numerical measurements. But the value of those numerical measurements are completely dependent upon your computing needs. If you have more demanding computing needs then you may want to pay more for higher capacity. Does that mean that you need a higher quality computer than I need because my computing needs are modest?
No, it does not!
If you want to pay to eat the pussy of your prostitute and lick the ass of your prostitute and you choose to pay more for those activities that does not mean that your prostitute is of higher quality than my prostitute.
One of the biggest problems of self reporting is that the reports do not include the sexual activities engaged in. If I higher a prostitute for a low price and it is "straight fucking; no kissing". But she sucks my dick good and lets me pound here in my favorite positions a deep and hard as I like. That is a high quality experience for me even at a low price.
If you TheDerilious need to illusion of the "girl friend experience" "girl friend experience" in order to get your rocks off. You know that bullshit of wining and dining a girl, kissing her, pretending that this is anything other than a paid sexual transaction. Personally I am not interested in such self deception as a grown man. But to each their own.
You are not going to be interested in my experience at any price. Nor will I be interested in yours. You will not find quality in the experiences I enjoy because of your personal preferences. You cannot say to me that: "girl friend experience" is of higher quality than "straight fucking; no kissing". You can only say that you prefer it.
The principle of spending money for value / quality is applicable no matter if a product or a service. If you TheDerilious want to pay to eat the pussy of a prostitute I have no problem with that. Whatever price point you wish to choose, I have no problem with that. But if you are going to tell me that you paid 10 times the amount that someone would pay in Centro and BECAUSE of that you got higher quality pussy than the person run Centro. I am going to tell you get the fuck out of here with you bullshit.
What you have done is paid for the pussy support system attributes that you find valuable. It is impossible for you to tell me the the quality of any actual pussy anywhere in the world is different based anything other than your personal preferences.
It is the same principle as beauty. Pussy is Pussy and the depends on the experience your dick has with said pussy. No matter what the price point it.
Pussy is Pussy
It is a pussy marketplace and the private transactions occur between individual parties. There is only self reporting of prices. There is no pussy brokers with an order book of bid and ask prices. Except for in a house of prostitution where all prices are the same.
When they take your advice and go to Centro for hours and don't find that diamond in the rough, they may just decide that you were full of it and go to the other extreme.My opinion holds no dominion over another mans decisions. Remember this the next time you are going to tell another man what they should be doing or not doing.
Man Law 101: No man ought to be telling another man how they should be spending his hard earned money or who to fuck.
Preach intelligent improvement, not dogma and dick waving.Follow your own advice and get the fuck out of here with your know it all attitudes. There is no improvement needed in order to higher a prostitute. All you have to do is find them negotiate a price and pay them. It helps if you know where to find the and the going rates for the pussy in the market you are operating in.
It should be noted:
I have lived through the entire range of economic experiences. From being down to my last 236 USD while being 23,000 USD in debt from student loans to having so much money coming into my bank account each month I didn't even look at a balance before spending money.
Dont step to me with assumptions about my life
Maybe you have lived the good life for too long or maybe you've never had to struggle a real day, but the majority of actual working class folk understand that price has a meaningful impact on the products and services they depend on.You are either projecting or mirroring. Because if you have a passport and enough financial resources to travel to from your country of origin in order hire prostitutes to cater to you sexual needs. All the while paying for accommodations food and drinks, here a news flash for you my ISG brother, your life is not that bad either. LOL!
Maybe my life experiences have taught me to step out of my own perspective and look at the world through the lens of reality. Today it has NEVER been easier to make money. Information is available for free. There are financial instruments and methods are available to those "real poor and middle class people". Broke is a temporary condition. I have been broke. Being poor is a mental attitude. I have never been poor.
How you like me now?
Mr Enternational
07-11-24, 14:02
I've had girlfriends and Tinder hookups tell me they weren't sure about hooking up for a variety of reasons) Most of them tell me they were scared. It is a wonder how many chicks have never met anyone online. I have been meeting chicks online since there was an online to be on. And before that I was meeting chicks on party lines, when they had to send their pictures through the mail.
Can you explain to me who the "party-bros" are? I am unfamiliar with that term.From the girls point of view I understand that it refers to the guys who are just there for the weekend. Many of them are partying heavy with drinking and drugs. It doesn't make for the best experience and there are frequently issues when it comes time to pay as they don't honor the agreement or 'misremember. ' A good number of Passport Bros are convinced from YouTube that Americans are in demand and that they don't need to pay the girls.
girlfriends and Tinder hookupsI think you need to clarify the context in your future posts if this is what you are talking about. Most of us are talking about P4 P with an agreement in place before meeting. In your case here, it maybe free, or you use the meeting to reach an agreement.
I had a Tinder hook up tell me she was scared. It was a spontaneous meeting after she had been clubbing (2 AM). We actually didn't even come to an agreement until we were on top of the bed with our clothes on. She was just as afraid I was going to scope her as I was the she was going to scope me.
400 K is a lot of money in Colombia, but it is not a lot of money when in a room full of foreigners is what I am reading. That is like when I am talking to a chick from a third world country and she tells me the amount of something is not much. Then when I tell her to pay it, it is crickets. It is not much money when it is coming out if your pocket, but it is a lot of money when it is coming out of theirs..
I know a chick that pays the babysitter 30 K to keep a kid overnight. That babysitter would need to keep 13 kids for that kind of dosh.EXACTLY! When the dumb gringo is paying, its "Only a little bit of money for you!" but let them have to fork over the money and they will be complaining for weeks!!
Mr Enternational
07-12-24, 00:34
But if you are going to tell me that you paid 10 times the amount that someone would pay in Centro and BECAUSE of that you got higher quality pussy than the person run Centro. I am going to tell you get the fuck out of here with you bullshit.I am glad my dick has never gotten angry with me and said I should have gotten the $200 pussy.
Mr Enternational
07-12-24, 00:41
EXACTLY! When the dumb gringo is paying, its "Only a little bit of money for you!" but let them have to fork over the money and they will be complaining for weeks!!I have an on and off girlfriend who is a teacher in Santa Marta. When we first met we went to a resort that I booked online. When we got there $5 in taxes still needed to be paid so I told her to pay it. She raised bloody hell. Meanwhile she is all in Punta Cana and Cancun and wherever else she wants to go with her money.
EXACTLY! When the dumb gringo is paying, its "Only a little bit of money for you!" but let them have to fork over the money and they will be complaining for weeks!!So you're saying that gringo who paid what was pennies to him meant the world to that third world country girl? And after service rendered the gringo could care less about that he's a 400 mil lighter because his time is more valuable but got his satisfactory nut and the girl from a poor country was thrilled about getting 400 mil?? Sounds like both sides leave happy there.
What I don't get is guys going to third world countries when they have third world budgets. All to meet women and get some sex. If you're going to travel the world and want to pay to bang women make sure you don't have to worry about the money you're going to spend. They do teach financial discipline in the west.
TheDerilious
07-12-24, 03:40
How you like me now?Bro, that was a lot of text to just agree with everything I said. While loudly screaming, "Pussy is Pussy", in the end you highlighted that guys have different needs for their p4 p sessions which is the exact opposite. As you said, you're in for the quick bang and not GFE; More power to you since that's great. You can get that at a certain price point with ease. Those who want GFE will generally have to pay extra since the level of service has "changed". And if some guy wants to get pegged, shit on, or wear a diaper, he probably has to pay even more than that since less girls provide that "change" in service. It's almost as if, and hear me out, there exists different service offerings that require different amounts of labor to perform. Getting pounded all day in doggy while you zone out and look out a window is actually easier than having to convince an ugly geriatric that you totally love how well he is fucking you and make him feel like a rockstar for an hour. It might require different skills that some girls don't have or want to train in. I'm trying to avoid saying "improve" since that seemed to trigger you but the point is that the change in quality is viewed as an improvement by the person purchasing it. Seems that "pussy isn't just pussy". And I totally avoided the whole concept of looks because that can of worms will just turn into "it's completely subjective" when we all know deep down that it's not.
In the future, just to help you with your argument, you should never compare a prostitute to a mechanic if you're trying to say that there is no difference in quality. It's literally one of the easiest examples of how service quality is vastly different. When you pay for cheap mechanics; your car often breaks down quicker, they use cheap parts to fix your car, they scuff up your car with oil and dirt and don't clean it up. Have you never had a mechanic fill your AC with the cheapest coolant possible so you're back to blowing hot air two months later? There is a reason that good, cheap mechanics are hard to find.
Finally, to make the point easier to understand, paying extra to have a mechanic put a lemon-scented freshener versus a pine-scented freshener (e. G. Paying 1 million vs. 500 K vs. 300 K vs. 150 K for potential GFE) is different from paying a mechanic to replace your coolant or using sub-standard parts (going to a 50 k fuck casa and expecting GFE). One is something you should analyze and optimize (don't overpay for GFE) and other is something to avoid (if you want GFE, casas are less likely to provide it). So no, all services and products are not the same. But you can have the last word on this since you seem to be making my point.
TheDerilious
07-12-24, 03:52
I think you need to clarify the context in your future posts if this is what you are talking about. Most of us are talking about P4 P with an agreement in place before meeting. In your case here, it maybe free, or you use the meeting to reach an agreement.I see where the wires are crossed now. Mr E was dipping into general game theory and that's what I was referencing.
But more broadly, it's clear that P4 P still shares commonality with normal hookups and how certain factors can improve the chance of a good session. For example, it's going to be hard to have a good session, no matter what you pay, if you smell like shit. Going to place that is more well known for providing the services you want would be another idea. If you want GFE, you probably don't want to go a random 50 k casa because that's not really the expectation. Finding a reputable agency or going to Lleras seems to have a higher hit rate. If you're trying to get a more mainstream attractive women without concern for GFE, it stands to reason that shopping in Centro may be less advantageous than top strip joints. If you've paid for a GFE session, having the ability to talk the language or having some charm will improve the odds of getting that.
Pussy is pussy.
A car is a car.
A house is a house.
McDonald's and lobster are just foods.
Yet people will fly into a third world country spend 1000+ dollars (unless you're like a pathetic airline steward and fly for free lmao) spend money on hotels all for the sake of getting pussy from a woman then bash her when she values her body at an unaffordable rate for you.
I know there's plenty of well off guys here who go to centro or sante de for street girls and own homes and businesses back home and live the suburbs and use this as a leisure.
Some do it up for the parties on weekends and spend more. The point is half the idiots here really got a problem with women wanting to make the most money for their hustle.
The other half of idiots just love to bash the guys that spend their money their way.
It's sad you got to count other people's money.
If a girl charges you something you don't want to pay simply walk away.
Once you start haggling you're more inclined to get a bad session. Of course there's some moron here who will always post his one or two time exception to the general but that's how life is.
You want to live by the creed that pussy is pussy that's fine.
I want to remember all the hotties I banged.
If pussy is pussy I'm sure every single state has crack junkies that will give you what you want for 20 $ and never have to jump on a flight or pay for a hotel again. So stop the fuckin nonsense.
I am glad my dick has never gotten angry with me and said I should have gotten the $200 pussy.Agreed!
Although in full disclosure I have paid 150/ hour to an agency girl in the Dominican Republic. Dick was not angry with me not was my wallet. Dick was happy and some times my wallet tells me there is enough in it so that this old man can.
Be ballin like a mother fucking pro!
Man Law 101: No man ought to be telling another man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck.
There are those who cannot distinguish price, value and quality. Here is one of them:
Im sorry but this is a just patently false.
You guys keep bringing up Gucci bags and yachts but ignore things like doctors, education, and every fundamental part of your life that is improved when you can pay to get a quality output.The point was quality is not always related to price. Sorry you missed that 100 MPH ace I sent up the tee that left you flat footed and you just watched it.
In the future, just to help you with your argument, you should never compare a prostitute to a mechanic
Finally, to make the point easier to understand, So no, all services and products are not the same. But you can have the last word on this since you seem to be making my point.Lots of words indeed. You want to give me the last word eh?
Quality can be completely unrelated to prices. Especially when it comes to highering the services of a prostitute. Don't make the error of thinking that just because you are paying a prostitute for more services that the higher price you pay is going to get you a higher quality experience. You have agreed with me that value is in the mind of the person paying for it.
Obviously since you came from a background of resource scarcity but have now made it, you see paying more money as automatically meaning improvement. Reach deep inside of you brother and figure out where it is coming from. You won the birth lottery. Maybe you worked hard. Maybe you just got lucky. But the fact that you are in the position to pay more for the quality you want does not mean that if I pay less for the quality I want that somehow suddenly you have made an improvement on the life that I have built for myself. Who triggered who? LOL!
I've owned Mercedes Benz's back in the days of my youth and high earnings. The car was excellent. But the maintenance costs were high. Even for the basics the oil changes were way more expensive for my E-class with the 8 cylinder engine than for my Honda with the 4 banger.
Is the oil change on a MB more complicated than on a Honda? Nope. Why the price differences? Because the MB mechanic knows I can pay it because I bought the car. The Honda mechanic knows that I am not going to pay MB prices to have my oil changed. Quality work was performed on them both. Now, I hear you now: but your Honda has less cylinders. Indeed it did. But on a per cylinder basis the oil changes on my E Class and my M class were about twice as expensive as on my Honda.
Pussy is and will continue to be Pussy
I can point you to a guy here on ISG that get the type of quality and services that you desire for a fraction of the price you pay for them. His handle is: Gabacho. He can relate plenty of stories of the girls he hires charging their clients way more money and providing less service and laughing with him about it.
If you have come here to argue I am not the one. If you disagree with my opinions I am good with that. But if you wish to continue the ad hominem attacks that is fine too. My prose is as sharp as ginsu and I'll use it on your arguments like I am preparing sushi. Thus endith the lesson for TheDerilious.
Game to Mr. Subcmdr. Your serve!
How you like me now?
I really wish this forum would get back to just talking and giving practical advice about Medellin. But I wanted to reply to this post. Your perceptions of top escorts in the US is incorrect. A top-rated escort (model like looks, not girl-next door) in Miami who does a great GFE and more, with top ratings everywhere, is around $500/ HR. And she doesn't really watch the clock at that rate. Other top ones can be found for $350-400/ HR. Sure; you can always find exceptions that charge more (nothing is separated faster than a fool and his money), but the US top talent average is nowhere near the 1 K you quote.
If you talk to Medellin pros (those who have been doing this actively for 3 years or more), you will learn that yes, Medellin is not what it once was. But not the way you think. They tell me that it is harder and more difficult to find good clients, the 'party-bros' are terrible clients, and the previous wave of retirees and remote workers was much better. Some are moving away to Spain and other locations because they feel Medellin is 'drying up' for good clients. Just because you find the Instagram for some lucky ones who did trips doesn't mean they are all doing trips. While inflation is making everything more expensive, these girls tell me they are having to settle for $300-ish even if that is worth less to them than it was two years ago.
But let's talk what girls charge. They don't have a 'set price'. Most girls relate the money they get to frequency of work. Lots of $300 K guys means they need to get 3-4 (or more) a week to meet their financial needs. Find two $600 k guys and you did the same for half the work. There isn't the biggest 'business sense' here, if they hit their financial budget -- they go to party or shopping, they aren't wise enough to keep working to 'get ahead'. I've explained it before, the girls work with a range, usually looking at a mental minimum. They will take all you are willing to give them, but most will settle for a minimum of $300 k. Doesn't mean they will be thrilled and will most likely want to get a 2nd client that night. If they get $400-500 k then they seem to be more happy and less concerned and will hang with you all night. At $600 k I find most are willing to spend the night unless there's a child / pet situation that needs advance arrangement.
Asking initially for $600 k-$900 k in Park Llares is common as it is 'twice as hard and twice as dangerous' and a lot of party-bros are idiots, so might as well make the money and compensate for the fact that good hookups at the park are more difficult. But it doesn't mean those girls at the park clubs are better off financially or of higher quality. It is just the reality of the place and situation.Agreed, there is a search function but it's clunky & a fair amount of pages are filled with philosophical debates / arguments. Comes with the format of. At least the Telegram COL groups are more organized imo.
The Miami escort pricest / values I've found to be all over the place. Strip clubs are avg $500, the clubs for OTC like E11 ven run 1 K, even the FOB Colombianas. And then all of them will do it for free in their personal life or for clout chasing.
While there are handfuls of Lleras 8's and 9's imo (majority being 6's to me), I would balk at any 500+k quote from a Lleras girl whether she's in a club, in check point or out of checkpoint. I get your point they want those near 1 mill prices because it's "2 x hard and dangerous", well in negotiations that works in our favor for negotiations. They're also a gamble for us, a new girl that's unvetted (I always ask why she's not in a club or allowed past security, but I expect lies) could easily rip you off so I don't concede to that idea of paying near triple. I'll give a reasonable low ball offer respectful, if she says No then we part ways. Though often they still ask for a number and agree without attitude. If the service is exceptional then yeah they can earn a tip after.
There is a lot of game theorizing in the Medellin market. While I've only been doing Colombia 2 Years and sounds like I missed the heyday, I haven't had much issue finding quality girls (through IG and even better a girls referral) to my tastes and without much interference from other gringos. Poblado and the La Islas have their purpose, I'm glad they exist as newb friendly but premium priced options, while not my preference they can provide some rare gems if timing and negotiation / willing to walk away are right.
But more broadly, it's clear that P4 P still shares commonality with normal hookups and how certain factors can improve the chance of a good sessionCompletely disagree. The only thing needed when it is time to hire a prostitute is to "know where the hos at" and to have the money. It is the self delusion to think otherwise. Prostitutes can pick and choose their clients. But the ideas that I have seen proffered all over ISG that "game" is needed to hire prostitutes does not align with my experience.
For example, it's going to be hard to have a good session, no matter what you pay, if you smell like shit. This is basic hygiene that should be applied in basic public situations. If this is your advice on "game" then I suggest that you stick with hiring prostitutes until you can step your game up. LOL.
Going to place that is more well known for providing the services you want would be another idea.This is some pretty obvious shit and once again has nothing to do with game. No reason to goto a Steakhouse and order chicken unless you have been invited to the restaurant and you don't eat red meet. Seems if you are the KING of obvious.
If you want GFE, you probably don't want to go a random 50 k casa because that's not really the expectation. Finding a reputable agency or going to Lleras seems to have a higher hit rate. If you're trying to get a more mainstream attractive women without concern for GFE, it stands to reason that shopping in Centro may be less advantageous than top strip joints. Once again all of these words can come down to "where the hos be at".
If you've paid for a GFE session, having the ability to talk the language or having some charm will improve the odds of getting that.Stands to reason that accomplishing almost everything in a Spanish speaking country would be better if you can speak Spanish. The alternative for the crowd that like to engage in the delusion of the the fake Girl Friend Experience is to get one that speaks the language you do.
Can someone tell me why you want to pay a girl to pretend to be your girl friend? I have always found it to be so much more satisfying to actually have a real girlfriend (or several) and hire prostitutes for their purpose. Performing dick maintenance service by draining my balls. They are nothing more than dick mechanics to me.
We in it for the pussy we don't love them hoes!
How you like me now?
John Gault
07-12-24, 14:41
Goes country to country to troll and look to start trouble.Maybe you could give us some info on CTG as you are a old hand in that area?
John Gault
07-12-24, 15:01
I see one fellow posted (guys going to third world countries when they have third world budgets.). I see no problem with that. What is a poor guy to do? A 50 K girl in Centro is better than jacking off to porno at home.
As far as Passport Bros that is the guys who used to go to the DR, but they ruined that, and then they first went to CTG, and now have discovered MDE. One of their main habits is (making it rain) To me that is a mark of disrespect. Oh how I hate You Tube.
I see one fellow posted (guys going to third world countries when they have third world budgets.). I see no problem with that. What is a poor guy to do? A 50 K girl in Centro is better than jacking off to porno at home.
As far as Passport Bros that is the guys who used to go to the DR, but they ruined that, and then they first went to CTG, and now have discovered MDE. One of their main habits is (making it rain) To me that is a mark of disrespect. Oh how I hate You Tube.But yet they can afford plane tickets and lodging just to get that 10 $ pussy.
And I have 0 issues with that. But traveling is a leisure and if thr most you can afford to spend is 10 $ on something you're obviously not in a position to travel.
If the attitude is pussy is pussy there are plenty of crackheads in almost every state that can be had for 20 $. And you save a ton of money on airfare and lodging. But these same guys are going country to country and complaining and hating on girls trying to make the most she can or guys who simply don't have to negotiate. These are the ones calling people names.
TheDerilious
07-12-24, 16:29
I can point you to a guy here on ISG that get the type of quality and services that you desire for a fraction of the price you pay for them. His handle is: Gabacho. He can relate plenty of stories of the girls he hires charging their clients way more money and providing less service and laughing with him about it.
As I said, you can get the last word since nothing was disputed, but I do want to highlight a difference for other mongers to understand. Gabacho, in my view, represents the difference between a tourist and a long-term resident. If your goal is to visit a country for sex tourism for 2 or 3 weeks at a time and wipe your hands clean after leaving to return to life back home, his experiences are not really relevant. I value his opinion and it may serve as a guide for improving your own travels but it doesn't really help unless you are willing to make an investment to "mastering" Medellin. I welcome him to correct me, but I view his game as focusing on finding diamonds in the rough before they really get into the game, cultivate longer-term relationships with promising prospects and use them to build up references to other prospects, and using his time and expertise in the area to find places that allow him to find those diamonds easier.
The average tourist can't do that effectively. Most are not looking to waste time texting a harem of chicks in Medellin while they are back in the US for family reasons or just because they don't want to. If you come for 7 days and spend 3 days trolling around Centro to get a list of a few prospects, you only have 4 days to enjoy it before you wipe the slate. And even if you did cultivate a group of girls who are willing to see you when you return a year (or more) later, many of those contacts may be out of the game by that point. Others don't want to spend weeks before a trip using burner facebook accounts to prune through options.
The good thing is that both sides can exist in harmony. Tourists get their nut and guys like Gabacho can laugh at them when they pay discount prices for the same girl because they've put in the work to cultivate a good arrangement. It's still good because for most of the tourists, it is no skin off their back to pay the prices they are paying to have a more leisurely time on their vacation. If any long-term resident wants to complain about guys spending too much, then they should just take the advice you so graciously put forward, "Make more money. " It's what I did. Girls charge 150 K pesos more than they did 4 years ago, but I get paid 50 k USD more than I did 4 years ago. Just do that LOL.
Pussy is pussy.I sure is. We have a point of agreement.
Yet people will fly into a third world country spend 1000+ dollars (unless you're like a pathetic airline steward and fly for free lmao) spend money on hotels all for the sake of getting pussy from a woman then bash her when she values her body at an unaffordable rate for you.Where in the fuck are you flying from? It costs me 200 USD round trip when I fly into Medellin. My AirBnB is 25 USD / night. Food not all that expensive. Plentiful and tasty. Bottle of Rum with 15 year old juice is 20 USD.
I know there's plenty of well off guys here who go to centro or sante de for street girls and own homes and businesses back home and live the suburbs and use this as a leisure.
Some do it up for the parties on weekends and spend more. The point is half the idiots here really got a problem with women wanting to make the most money for their hustle.
The other half of idiots just love to bash the guys that spend their money their way.
It's sad you got to count other people's money.Strange definition of well off. If that was the case they would be able to pull girls in their own society at a high level if they are truly high value men.
While we are at it lets talk about age? Why are young men running up into prostitutes? I didn't need prostitutes to regularly fulfill my needs until I was 50 years old.
WTF is up with young men of today?
Man Law 101: No man ought to be telling another man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck.You projecting or reflection brother.
If a girl charges you something you don't want to pay simply walk away.
Once you start haggling you're more inclined to get a bad session. Of course there's some moron here who will always post his one or two time exception to the general but that's how life is.Only thing you have written that I agree with.
You want to live by the creed that pussy is pussy that's fine.I do. Furthermore I don't need your permission to do so. You want to pretend / believe that the prostitutes you hire are better and "improves" the inner you in some way because you pay more for them. Who am I to stand in the way of your self delusion?
I get enough of it (pussy) to know it is not special and it ain't no thing. I do not have to get on a plane in order get it either. I goto Colombia because I like to visit the place. Don't really want to live there. But I do enjoy visiting. Used to have a nice business in Medellin, but it got shut down (long story). Still looking to set another one up again soon.
But don't try to tell me that because you pay more than I do that the prostitutes you hire are better than mine. Well you can but you can get in line right behind TheDerilious to do that.
I want to remember all the hotties I banged.You mean that you PAID to bang. If those are the types of memories you want, if you like it then I love it. In reality, it ain't no thing.
I have gotten enough pussy in my life so that most of it is forgettable. I'll never brag about or remember the prostitutes I fucked. I think that is what is really sad. Guys that hang their hat on that shit. As if is some kind of achievement.
But you will have to memories for the Glory Days. You will be able to sit around and talk about how Colombia used to be a good place for hos but now (insert the hated group of your choice) has ruined it. LOL!.
If pussy is pussy I'm sure every single state has crack junkies that will give you what you want for 20 $ and never have to jump on a flight or pay for a hotel again.I'll take you word for it. I don't even know what country you are talking about. Is this written from the typical North American centric point of view from someone who assumes the only people who travel to Colombia are from whatever country that you are from that has the sort of states you are talking about?
So stop the fuckin nonsense.Only possible if you stop posting. You talk a lot shit and I bet you practice what you preach.
So you're saying that gringo who paid what was pennies to him meant the world to that third world country girl? And after service rendered the gringo could care less about that he's a 400 mil lighter because his time is more valuable but got his satisfactory nut and the girl from a poor country was thrilled about getting 400 mil?? Sounds like both sides leave happy there.What is with the drama bro? It is a transaction. Mother fuckers up in here act like Colombian men don't go to prostitutes. You think that YOUR 400,000 COP is special. Nah mother fucker it is not. That shit spends not matter where she gets it from. LOL!.
What I don't get is guys going to third world countries when they have third world budgets. All to meet women and get some sex. If you're going to travel the world and want to pay to bang women make sure you don't have to worry about the money you're going to spend. They do teach financial discipline in the west.No they don't. Financial discipline is not taught. Unless things have dramatically changed since put my country of origin in the rear view mirror.
But yet they can afford plane tickets and lodging just to get that 10 $ pussy.
And I have 0 issues with that. But traveling is a leisure and if thr most you can afford to spend is 10 $ on something you're obviously not in a position to travel.
If the attitude is pussy is pussy there are plenty of crackheads in almost every state that can be had for 20 $. And you save a ton of money on airfare and lodging. But these same guys are going country to country and complaining and hating on girls trying to make the most she can or guys who simply don't have to negotiate. These are the ones calling people names.You do realize that you are repeating yourself Stop being a passive aggressive girly man. You know who uses the expression Pussy is Pussy. So don't hide. Speak to me directly as a man. If you can pay to fuck, then you can write as a man and be direct.
You seem to be writing out of jealousy. Why do actually care that people are paying less to hire your prostitutes than you are unless you really would like to pay less money also.
Not everyone posting here is a weekend warrior. But most are keyboard warriors. If Colombia is the only place you can afford to visit, you are doing yourself a disservice by not putting in some work that would allow you to explore the world. The world is full of prostitutes and there is no need to show your ignorance in thinking that the only inexpensive prostitutes can be found in your country of origin.
Am I to take from your writing that you travel to Columbia in order to pay higher amounts for higher quality prostitutes?
If you like it then I love it. Where I happen to be writing this from I can have lunch for 1. 50 USD. This is in a sit down restaurant, chicken, vegetable, soup and a bottle of water. Should I pay the restaurant more just because I can? No, I should not. If you are honest with yourself none of you mother fuckers talking that shit about price would do that either.
You know it does not mother fucking matter what the cost of my lunch was in USD. I am not on a USD economy. That were what the mono-country visitors get it wrong. They do not know how to think in the currency of the country they are visiting. Someone looking for self improvement should work on two areas. 1. Language Skills 2. Local economics. Dragging your fucked up Western Ideals all over the world does not serve you well. The ride to the airport should be the opportunity to open up your mind. Step out of your fucked up Western mindset you have to live in on a daily basis and explore the big wide world outside of your country of origin.
The only people I know that brag about how much they paid for something are multi millionares and professional tricks. Both have a rep to uphold. In the real world people are always trying to balance, price, quality and value. My understanding is that you North American mother fuckers have a tradition in your country called Black Friday. Can any tell me if the idea of this is to pay the MOST that you can?
Posters cannot win with you 2 faced mother fuckers. Pay a low amount and you are cheap. Make it rain and you are being disrespectful. How about everyone is allowed to spend their money without the critical commentary and hating? Because you are too high and mighty seeking to "improve yourselves" by hiring expensive prostitutes and that is why you do not go for inexpensive prostitutes. But you want to rain on the parade of the next man who wants to make it rain up in the club. Reality is those who talk that talk probably are broke, busted, bums. LOL!. Sometimes I like to economize and chill. Sometimes this old man wants to be ballin like a mother fucking pro! I can do both. Everyone should be able to with being talked down to by the price police that trying to lock everyone up.
The term is no longer "third world". It is developing country. Improve yourselves and stay abreast of geo political changes in the world. It should be noted that I can post in multiple countries because the administrator allows it. I've visited the countries I post about. Don't hate! Get off your lame asses and explore the world instead of talking shit about others that actually do it.
Mr Enternational
07-12-24, 19:10
But traveling is a leisure and if thr most you can afford to spend is 10 $ on something you're obviously not in a position to travel.
These are the ones calling people names.It seems we also have a problem with folks assuming guys can not afford a certain price instead of realizing that some guys choose not to pay a certain price. There is a difference.
Surely I can afford an 80,000 peso taxi from the airport. (Afterall, I just spent 200,000 on lunch yesterday and 200,000 at the bowling alley the day before.) But I choose to get a 14,000 peso bus from the airport. Me getting the bus is not saying that I can not afford the taxi. Is you getting the 80,000 peso taxi saying you can not afford a rental car for 200,000? Or do these assumptions of people not being able to afford things only begin and end with the price one pays for a hooker?
Because maybe a person is neither in a position to travel if they are not staying in the El Cielo Hotel. But I see no attempted shaming about what people are choosing to pay for a place to lay their head, only for a place to stick their dick.
I think youtube sucks. Basically, it is nothing more video illustration of information that has always been on the Internet. The problem I have with it is when I see somebody wandering around with a go pro mounted on a selfie stick, I move away as soon as possible because there is no way to know the agenda of the "youtuber" or how they may present images of you.
I see one fellow posted (guys going to third world countries when they have third world budgets.). I see no problem with that. What is a poor guy to do? A 50 K girl in Centro is better than jacking off to porno at home.
As far as Passport Bros that is the guys who used to go to the DR, but they ruined that, and then they first went to CTG, and now have discovered MDE. One of their main habits is (making it rain) To me that is a mark of disrespect. Oh how I hate You Tube.
I sure is. We have a point of agreement.
Where in the fuck are you flying from? It costs me 200 USD round trip when I fly into Medellin. My AirBnB is 25 USD / night. Food not all that expensive. Plentiful and tasty. Bottle of Rum with 15 year old juice is 20 USD.
Strange definition of well off. If that was the case they would be able to pull girls in their own society at a high level if they are truly high value men.
While we are at it lets talk about age? Why are young men running up into prostitutes? I didn't need prostitutes to regularly fulfill my needs until I was 50 years old.
WTF is up with young men of today?
You projecting or reflection brother.
Only thing you have written that I agree with.
I do. Furthermore I don't need your permission to do so. You want to pretend / believe that the prostitutes you hire are better and "improves" the inner you in some way because you pay more for them. Who am I to stand in the way of your self delusion?
I get enough of it (pussy) to know it is not special and it ain't no thing. I do not have to get on a plane in order get it either. I goto Colombia because I like to visit the place. Don't really want to live there. But I do enjoy visiting. Used to have a nice business in Medellin, but it got shut down (long story). Still looking to set another one up again soon.
But don't try to tell me that because you pay more than I do that the prostitutes you hire are better than mine. Well you can but you can get in line right behind TheDerilious to do that.
You mean that you PAID to bang. If those are the types of memories you want, if you like it then I love it. In reality, it ain't no thing.
I have gotten enough pussy in my life so that most of it is forgettable. I'll never brag about or remember the prostitutes I fucked. I think that is what is really sad. Guys that hang their hat on that shit. As if is some kind of achievement.
But you will have to memories for the Glory Days. You will be able to sit around and talk about how Colombia used to be a good place for hos but now (insert the hated group of your choice) has ruined it. LOL!.
I'll take you word for it. I don't even know what country you are talking about. Is this written from the typical North American centric point of view from someone who assumes the only people who travel to Colombia are from whatever country that you are from that has the sort of states you are talking about?
Only possible if you stop posting. You talk a lot shit and I bet you practice what you preach.First and foremost I have paid to bang hot girls and have had hot gfs I didn't pay to bang. Like a NFL cheerleader, models in USA and Colombia so I'm good.
And let's be real for a minute. WHO TF do you think you are you to me?? Seriously GTFOH. Unless this whole board is a bunch of cheap asses who care about average to ugly women then yea you would be the boss.
I'm good in my skin. I just hate people who hate on others. The glory days don't end for me until I stop breathing. Just got back from Bogota and banged a few nice hotties to add to my memory.
Yea you get forgettable pussy. Well the pussy I get is unattainable for you. Why? I deal with hot girls and in real life I deal with girls way out your league. It's so obvious just by the way you talk exactly what type of pussy you're getting. So yea stop the nonsense.
Medclubber
07-13-24, 01:30
4I know a chick that pays the babysitter 30 K to keep a kid overnight. That babysitter would need to keep 13 kids for that kind of dosh.Minimum monthly wage right now is $1. 462.000, which is including transport but without all extra's like the half yearly bonuses, pension, insurance etc. And that's for work in the day, at night is more expensive. Anyway I'll let you live in your fantasy world again where Colombians work all night long for 30 k and strippers in US bars can be had for $40.
Minimum monthly wage right now is $1. 462.000, which is including transport but without all extra's like the half yearly bonuses, pension, insurance etc. And that's for work in the day, at night is more expensive. Anyway I'll let you live in your fantasy world again where colombians work all night long for 30 k and strippers in US bars can be had for $40.Mr. E and don't agree on anything. But he does not live in a fantasy world. In fact if I had to place a bet I would guess that he has way more experience in Colombia and worldwide than you do,.
Stick to the facts (if you have them) and lay off the ad hominem attacks
If the attitude is pussy is pussy there are plenty of crackheads in almost every state that can be had for 20 $. And you save a ton of money on airfare and lodging. But these same guys are going country to country and complaining and hating on girls trying to make the most she can or guys who simply don't have to negotiate. These are the ones calling people names.Repeating himself in multiple threads.
I see one fellow posted (guys going to third world countries when they have third world budgets.). I see no problem with that. What is a poor guy to do? A 50 K girl in Centro is better than jacking off to porno at home.
As far as Passport Bros that is the guys who used to go to the DR, but they ruined that, and then they first went to CTG, and now have discovered MDE. One of their main habits is (making it rain) To me that is a mark of disrespect. Oh how I hate You Tube.Quick review of the Dominican Republic country threads and you will find them to be very lively and I see not signs that the Dominican Republic is ruined as your assert.
Goes country to country to troll and look to start trouble.No, I go country to country start business, hire prostitues and have fun. You should try it some time.
I really wish this forum would get back to just talking and giving practical advice about Medellin.Nice idea brother but it looks like it is never going to happen.
I believe they are the same lot who are also referred to as weekend warriors or one week millionaires, short term visitors who spend freely before heading back to reality.Thank you Knowledge. You always provided me with good intel in the Dominican Republic and I am sure you continue to do so wherever you are.
I don't really visit Colombia to hire prostitutes. I visit for general social / business reasons and to receive medical care. My experiences are limited but have been positive. I like the selection at Centro. I have had a positive hook up off of Tender (200000 COP) for an overnight.
It seems we also have a problem with folks assuming guys can not afford a certain price instead of realizing that some guys choose not to pay a certain price. There is a difference.
Surely I can afford an 80,000 peso taxi from the airport. (Afterall, I just spent 200,000 on lunch yesterday and 200,000 at the bowling alley the day before.) But I choose to get a 14,000 peso bus from the airport. Me getting the bus is not saying that I can not afford the taxi. Is you getting the 80,000 peso taxi saying you can not afford a rental car for 200,000? Or do these assumptions of people not being able to afford things only begin and end with the price one pays for a hooker?
Because maybe a person is neither in a position to travel if they are not staying in the El Cielo Hotel. But I see no attempted shaming about what people are choosing to pay for a place to lay their head, only for a place to stick their dick.Once again this dickhead wants to comment on my shit and start something.
I only shame those who are bitter and haters of anyone who wants to make $$ and better their lives. And also those losers who hate on fellow men for paying what they want to pay and always saying it's not worth 40 k or 200 k or whatever. Sound like anyone you know you dumb prick?
MongerHunger
07-13-24, 07:44
It seems we also have a problem with folks assuming guys can not afford a certain price instead of realizing that some guys choose not to pay a certain price. There is a difference.
Surely I can afford an 80,000 peso taxi from the airport. (Afterall, I just spent 200,000 on lunch yesterday and 200,000 at the bowling alley the day before.) But I choose to get a 14,000 peso bus from the airport. Me getting the bus is not saying that I can not afford the taxi. Is you getting the 80,000 peso taxi saying you can not afford a rental car for 200,000? Or do these assumptions of people not being able to afford things only begin and end with the price one pays for a hooker?
Because maybe a person is neither in a position to travel if they are not staying in the El Cielo Hotel. But I see no attempted shaming about what people are choosing to pay for a place to lay their head, only for a place to stick their dick.The last time that I went to Medellin I took the white bus from the airport also. It takes a little bit longer to get in the city because it doesn't go through the tunnel but I'm fine with that. It will drop you off at the San Diego Centro Comercial or behind Hotel Nutibara close to Ground Zero.
I agree that just because a person wants to pay less for anything doesn't mean they can't afford something at a higher price. Sometimes that can be the smart thing to do and I don't lead with my money. I lead with conversation and intellect.
First and foremost I have paid to bang hot girls and have had hot gfs I didn't pay to bang. Like a NFL cheerleader, models in USA and Colombia so I'm good.Think we have all paid and have not paid. Sorry, does not make you special at all my brother.
And let's be real for a minute. WHO TF do you think you are you to me?? Seriously GTFOH. Unless this whole board is a bunch of cheap asses who care about average to ugly women then yea you would be the boss.Well, I know exactly who I am. I don't give a fuck who I am to a someone who has attitudes like yourself. Just another one of those north american guys who won the birth lottery and think that their appearance gives them some privilege in the world. You want to go toe to toe with me when it comes to financial means?
Tell me how long you have had enough passive income to support yourself. I'll share how long my passive income stream has been supporting me.
Your problem is outlined below. You do not know the difference between, quality, value and price.
It seems we also have a problem with folks assuming guys can not afford a certain price instead of realizing that some guys choose not to pay a certain price. There is a difference.
Surely I can afford an 80,000 peso taxi from the airport. (Afterall, I just spent 200,000 on lunch yesterday and 200,000 at the bowling alley the day before.) But I choose to get a 14,000 peso bus from the airport. Me getting the bus is not saying that I can not afford the taxi. Is you getting the 80,000 peso taxi saying you can not afford a rental car for 200,000? Or do these assumptions of people not being able to afford things only begin and end with the price one pays for a hooker?
Because maybe a person is neither in a position to travel if they are not staying in the El Cielo Hotel. But I see no attempted shaming about what people are choosing to pay for a place to lay their head, only for a place to stick their dick.
I'm good in my skin. I just hate people who hate on others. The glory days don't end for me until I stop breathing. Just got back from Bogota and banged a few nice hotties to add to my memory.Well brother I don't have to get on a plane to bang hotties. I am using the computer that makes me money, on the table where I eat my food, in the room I fuck my hotties. What you doing back in your country of origin? Working? LOL! Nah, I don't do that shit. That.
News flash, my world does not revolve around pussy and I don't hate on anyone. I will continue to pay what I choose to pay for my pussy. You as a punk ass ***** mother fucker are trying to make yourself feel better by using nothing more than a playground rant I have not hear since elementary school (mine is better than yours) LOL! GTFOH. You shouldn't need to defend yourself or attack me. If you are really all about what you say you are about.
Yea you get forgettable pussy. Well the pussy I get is unattainable for you. Why? I deal with hot girls and in real life I deal with girls way out your league. It's so obvious just by the way you talk exactly what type of pussy you're getting.First of all this is the written form of communication. So, you must of missed a lot in your formative educational years.
I get all the pussy I am willing to pay for. I don't understand guys that claim to be high value yet goto prostitutes. Why pay for something you can get for free?
Nah, you are doing nothing more than being a keyboard warrior and beating on your chest. I obviously something I WROTE triggered you. You do not need to prove to me or anyone else you are getting hot girls. But that thought that I am jealous of you. LOL. Tell the stories of your achievements to your bitches. I am not the one.
When you have a medical student make soup for you and send it to you in a taxi because you are sick and then have her apologize that she cannot come over and take care of you because she has to study for her final tomorrow. That is when I'll know you are getting girls at least equal to the ones I am getting. LOL! Oh, she is a doctor now and still fucking me.
Sangnyc gets pussy that is unattainable for me. He knows this how? Just because because of who he is and because he has stood up upon his pedestal of privilege and declared it. LOL!.
So yea stop the nonsense.The nonsense cannot stop until either STFU or start WRITING posts that make sense.
I agree that just because a person wants to pay less for anything doesn't mean they can't afford something at a higher price. Sometimes that can be the smart thing to do and I don't lead with my money. I lead with conversation and intellect.Look at who can afford to live the life he wants, not how much he spends.
I agree that just because a person wants to pay less for anything doesn't mean they can't afford something at a higher price.It doesn't always mean they can't afford it. But it often very well does.
I see where the wires are crossed now. 40 mil is only for 30 minutes. MB1 is paying 400 mil or a little more for overnight based on what I remember from his posts. My observation is he wants different type of girls and he vets the girls very carefully by requesting work photos and stuff, so I think he values his money similarly.
If you come for 7 days and spend 3 days trolling around Centro to get a list of a few prospects, you only have 4 days to enjoy it before you wipe the slate. Centro is not for everyone so I think that is not how an average person should approach it. It works better when you are flexible and have other options like casas or facebook.
If you can adapt and are looking for good sex with an above average looking girls, it is just the same. It will be a mistake to go there to look for diamond (a so called 9 or 10). For a 400 mil girl, you have 1 strike while you have 10 strikes for a 40 mil girl, You have a stereo type on how things work and that limits you.
Gobacho is an exception, he does not always pay the going rate. Most people will pay the going rate for FB girls that starts at 200 or so. His thinking is not limited by the going rate and can get it quite a bit lower.
It seems we also have a problem with folks assuming guys can not afford a certain price instead of realizing that some guys choose not to pay a certain price. There is a difference.
Surely I can afford an 80,000 peso taxi from the airport. (Afterall, I just spent 200,000 on lunch yesterday and 200,000 at the bowling alley the day before.) But I choose to get a 14,000 peso bus from the airport. Me getting the bus is not saying that I can not afford the taxi. Is you getting the 80,000 peso taxi saying you can not afford a rental car for 200,000? Or do these assumptions of people not being able to afford things only begin and end with the price one pays for a hooker?
Because maybe a person is neither in a position to travel if they are not staying in the El Cielo Hotel. But I see no attempted shaming about what people are choosing to pay for a place to lay their head, only for a place to stick their dick.So you don't mind spending 200 k for lunch when you could just get a menu del DIA for less than 15 mil at a local cafe? Why spend 200 k to stuff your belly? Obviously, you wanted to have a meal at nice place and were willing to pay for it. So how is it different from someone willing to pay premium price for a hot girl and GFE experience? Also, let's face it, it's not like the exact same meal you paid 200 k for can be had at some other similar place for 20 k simply because the costs of running a small local cafe are not the same as the costs of running a high end restaurant. But you get what you pay for.
The last time that I went to Medellin I took the white bus from the airport also. It takes a little bit longer to get in the city because it doesn't go through the tunnel but I'm fine with that. It will drop you off at the San Diego Centro Comercial or behind Hotel Nutibara close to Ground Zero.
I agree that just because a person wants to pay less for anything doesn't mean they can't afford something at a higher price. Sometimes that can be the smart thing to do and I don't lead with my money. I lead with conversation and intellect.The debate is not really about what someone can or can't afford, rather about that some guys here as fucking cheapskates, especially when it comes to p4 p.
Mr Enternational
07-13-24, 16:21
I only shame those who are bitter and haters of anyone who wants to make $$ and better their lives. And also those losers who hate on fellow men for paying what they want to pay and always saying it's not worth 40 k or 200 k or whatever. Sound like anyone you know you dumb prick?Now that you mention it. YEP!
Please don't ever make fun of guys overpaying because if we pay more for pussy it's just for pussy. But some guy just bought her a BMW suv. LOL. I know at least 6-7 guys who have raw dogged and CIM her including myself and the friends I passed her around too for 200-250 mil.Looks like the hate is strong for a chick who is trying to better her life by some guy buying her a BMW. Not to mention someone who says it was overpaying when they paid the same chick a paltry sum of 200,000 pesos.
I will confess that my first couple trips to medellin I definitely overpaid a couple girls from Gustos. I was only there for a 4 day weekend and didn't know better.
A girl quoted me a price of 200 usd and instead of negotiating the number, I immediately went down the list of services I want provided.
If she tried to say it would cost extra I never went for it. For the simple fact that I knew she was overcharging me anyway.That post speaks for itself. Maybe AI has hijacked someone's handle because it has gone from I fucked up by paying so much and being overcharged because I did not know better, to don't make fun of me overpayinga chick with a BMW by giving her 200,000, to if you can not afford to overpay then why are you even traveling, to losers hate on men for paying what they want to pay. I guess the loser was hating on himself when he said he did not know any better when he paid the chick the $200 that he himself wanted to pay.
"Losers hate on men and say it is not worth it when they paid what they wanted to pay. Yeah I remember when I said I knew I was being overcharged by paying $200 because I did not know any better by paying what I wanted to pay. Cocaine is a helluva drug.
Stands to reason that accomplishing almost everything in a Spanish speaking country would be better if you can speak Spanish. The alternative for the crowd that like to engage in the delusion of the the fake Girl Friend Experience is to get one that speaks the language you do.
Can someone tell me why you want to pay a girl to pretend to be your girl friend? I have always found it to be so much more satisfying to actually have a real girlfriend (or several) and hire prostitutes for their purpose. Performing dick maintenance service by draining my balls. They are nothing more than dick mechanics to me.
We in it for the pussy we don't love them hoes!
How you like me now?You can drain your balls simply by watching Pornhub and masturbating. Or fucking a hole in the wall. Or removing a couple of ribs so that your mouth could reach your dick and sucking yourself off. Whatever option you choose is fine with me. I don't care how another man busts a nut. But don't tell me I need to do the same as you, because I prefer other options and I'm willing to pay for them. Nothing wrong with paying someone to pretend to be a girlfriend and have great GFE like sex. It is not your fucking business to tell me how I need to bust a nut, so stay in your lane, dumbass.
Mr Enternational
07-13-24, 16:47
So you don't mind spending 200 k for lunch when you could just get a menu del DIA for less than 15 mil at a local cafe? Why spend 200 k to stuff your belly? Obviously, you wanted to have a meal at nice place and were willing to pay for it. So how is it different from someone willing to pay premium price for a hot girl and GFE experience?I never said it was a nice place. Seems like you are assuming it was a nice place because of the price I paid, which may not be the case at all!
But just because I do not choose to pay 200,000 for a hooker, does not mean I do not choose to spend 200,000 on other things. Some posters falsely assume that if you do not spend 200,000 on a hooker, then you do not have 200,000 to spend.
You do not know the experience you will have with the girl before you agree to the price. So to say that you are paying for GFE would be counting your chickens before they hatch.
But you get what you pay for.Yep. Thought I was going to have a GRE (Great Restaurant Experience). Both me and old girl got sick from the 200,000 lunch and we ate different things. So much for getting what you pay for! LOL.
Is the oil change on a MB more complicated than on a Honda? Nope. Why the price differences? Because the MB mechanic knows I can pay it because I bought the car. The Honda mechanic knows that I am not going to pay MB prices to have my oil changed. Quality work was performed on them both. Now, I hear you now: but your Honda has less cylinders. Indeed it did. But on a per cylinder basis the oil changes on my E Class and my M class were about twice as expensive as on my Honda.
Pussy is and will continue to be Pussy
I can point you to a guy here on ISG that get the type of quality and services that you desire for a fraction of the price you pay for them. His handle is: Gabacho. He can relate plenty of stories of the girls he hires charging their clients way more money and providing less service and laughing with him about it.
If you have come here to argue I am not the one. If you disagree with my opinions I am good with that. But if you wish to continue the ad hominem attacks that is fine too. My prose is as sharp as ginsu and I'll use it on your arguments like I am preparing sushi. Thus endith the lesson for TheDerilious.
Game to Mr. Subcmdr. Your serve!
How you like me now?You can get your own supplies and go to any Jiffy Lube and get the same fucking price for oil change. Just like one can go to a casa / brothel and get a basic service paying some fixed rate.
Speaking of Gabacho, obviously you haven't read some of his reports where he fucked some disgusting women with a severe skin rash and greenish discharge coming out of pussy. Let alone midgets and preggos. After reading his reports I wanted to throw up, that's how gross they were. Other members would agree with me. But you know what? It doesn't bother me at all, I could care less. He can bareback a fucking cow or a crocodile. My point is his girls are not nearly of the same quality as mine, and we never would fuck the same women. So what he does and who he fucks has zero effect on me.
It is not your fucking business to tell me how I need to bust a nut, so stay in your lane, dumbass.MiamiBoy you have been a punk ass mother fucking ***** since the first time you ever replied to one of my posts here. Did you see me mention your name or respond to one of your posts lately?
Man Law 101: No man ought to be telling another man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck.
That means your dumb ass that you can DOWHATLIKE. It also means that I can comment on the different ways people choose to conduct their activities hiring prostitutes. Especially, if they are posting about it on a public internet forum. Now get back to work you you dumb mother fucking wage slave! I've got a girl on the way over.
BTW, you never answered the question: Can someone tell me why you want to pay a girl to pretend to be your girl friend? LOL!.
You can drain your balls simply by watching Pornhub and masturbating. Or fucking a hole in the wall. Or removing a couple of ribs so that your mouth could reach your dick and sucking yourself off. Whatever option you choose is fine with me. I don't care how another man busts a nut. But don't tell me I need to do the same as you, because I prefer other options and I'm willing to pay for them. Nothing wrong with paying someone to pretend to be a girlfriend and have great GFE like sex.
Well brother I don't have to get on a plane to bang hotties. I am using the computer that makes me money, on the table where I eat my food, in the room I fuck my hotties. either STFU or start WRITING posts that make sense.Don't have to get on a plane? That's because you have already fled your country of origin where you could not even get a crack head to fuck. And guess what, you had to take the fucking plane to get there. So stop fucking bragging.
You can get your own supplies and go to any Jiffy Lube and get the same fucking price for oil change. Just like one can go to a casa / brothel and get a basic service paying some fixed rate.
Speaking of Gabacho, obviously you haven't read some of his reports where he fucked some disgusting women with a severe skin rash and greenish discharge coming out of pussy. Let alone midgets and preggos. After reading his reports I wanted to throw up, that's how gross they were. Other members would agree with me. But you know what? It doesn't bother me at all, I could care less. He can bareback a fucking cow or a crocodile. My point is his girls are not nearly of the same quality as mine, and we never would fuck the same women. So what he does and who he fucks has zero effect on me.There you go again talking shit to me. Haven't I told you to keep my name out of your mouth? You just don't listen. And I have never fucked any women with greenish discharge. Show me the post where I said that? You lying sack of shit.
You wish you could fuck my beautiful paisa barrio girls but you don't even know Jack shit about whom I'm fucking and whom I'm not. Just talking shit as usual.
But you know what I don't have the time right now to call you out on all your bullshit so it is what it is and I don't really care anyways. I have more important shit going on in my life right now than to worry about some internet troll on a hooker board.
Gabacho.
You can get your own supplies and go to any Jiffy Lube and get the same fucking price for oil change. Just like one can go to a casa / brothel and get a basic service paying some fixed rate.Not the most intelligent thing I have read from you that you have written. You slipping.
Help me figure out what this has to do with paying for prostitutes? That no one has to pay for a prostitute if they just beat off? Really?! Is that were you are going? Save money by beating off? WTF?
Please stop being a idiot! There I asked you nicely. Can you please do it?
My point is his girls are not nearly of the same quality as mine, and we never would fuck the same women. Never seen pictures of the prostitutes that you hire and I think you be lying on your dick on a fairly constant basis so you have no credibility with me.
You are just another one of those north American wage slave mother fuckers who won the birth lottery and think that their appearance gives them some privilege in the world. If you ever actually travel someplace other than Colombia you are going find out quick fast and in a hurry that your pedigree does not mean shit around the rest of the world.
So what he does and who he fucks has zero effect on me.Bro, lay off of whatever you smoke before you write your posts. You are complete contradicting what you wrote in the paragraph below.
Speaking of Gabacho, obviously you haven't read some of his reports where he fucked some disgusting women with a severe skin rash and greenish discharge coming out of pussy. Let alone midgets and preggos. After reading his reports I wanted to throw up, that's how gross they were. Other members would agree with me. But you know what? It doesn't bother me at all, I could care less. He can bareback a fucking cow or a crocodile.Now who is being judgmental?
How you like me now?
It seems we also have a problem with folks assuming guys can not afford a certain price instead of realizing that some guys choose not to pay a certain price. There is a difference.
Surely I can afford an 80,000 peso taxi from the airport. (Afterall, I just spent 200,000 on lunch yesterday and 200,000 at the bowling alley the day before.) But I choose to get a 14,000 peso bus from the airport. Me getting the bus is not saying that I can not afford the taxi. Is you getting the 80,000 peso taxi saying you can not afford a rental car for 200,000? Or do these assumptions of people not being able to afford things only begin and end with the price one pays for a hooker?
Because maybe a person is neither in a position to travel if they are not staying in the El Cielo Hotel. But I see no attempted shaming about what people are choosing to pay for a place to lay their head, only for a place to stick their dick.Mr. E, you know we do not agree on much. But I give credit where credit is due. Your post is keeping it 100 and dead on point. I've said it once and I'll say it again, it appears to me that individuals cannot distinguish between quality, value and price. Consumers of goods and services in the real world are juggling those concepts all the time. But when it comes to hiring prostitutes people lose their mother fucking minds and have apoplectic fits if you pay less than they do because you value things that they don't. What is most interesting is that this is a problem that appears to me to occur worldwide. I've seen versions of this same topic of discussion in three different country threads that I've posted in.
As a poster you cannot win and ISG has a tough crowd: make it rain you get haters, pay the market rate, you get haters, spend lavishly, you get haters; get BBFS you get haters; travel the world and have big picture perspective of girls and prostitues you get haters. Emancipate yourself from being a wage slave and no longer have to trade your time for money, you get haters; live where others have to take a plane to go on vacation, you get haters. I think everyone gets the basic idea here. There are a lot of haters out there.
Don't have to get on a plane?Yes, that is what I said. Right now I am writing this to kill time while I am waiting for a prostitue to show up at my door. None of the GFE delusional bullshit. Straight fucking; No kissing. What are you doing right now mother fucker? Trying to get some rest so you can perform well busting rocks during your work day for the next 8 -12 hours? You have to get on a plane to get the pussy you want. I don't. FACT!
That's because you have already fled your country of origin where you could not even get a crack head to fuck.You go on believe that if you would like. Doesn't bother me. I'm at peace with myself and all others. Nice to be comfortable in your own skin.
Fled: run away from a place or situation of danger. .
I've never thought of this way, but you are right. I did flee from danger. I am a political refugee. There are death squads in my country called police that are authorized to kill individuals who look like me on the spot.
And guess what, you had to take the fucking plane to get there. I sure did. But every place that plane lands, every city I have a residence there are girls available and willing to rent the use of their mouth, pussy and ass for a specific amount of useless fiat currency that is printed by the governments the world over.
This is your third post responding to me. Something I wrote must have triggered you bad!
So stop fucking bragging It's not bragging if you can back it up - Muhammad Ali. Anytime you want me to back up anything I say here you just let me know in what country and city you would like to meet.
How you like me now?
It doesn't always mean they can't afford it. But it often very well does.Or it could mean they simply choose to spend their money on other things. IPad air 1225 USD; two sticks for yellow ball 400 USD; plane ticket to BKK 1600 USD; full service pussy: 500 THB. LOL!
There you go again talking shit to me. Haven't I told you to keep my name out of your mouth? You just don't listen. And I have never fucked any women with greenish discharge. Show me the post where I said that? You lying sack of shit.
You wish you could fuck my beautiful paisa barrio girls but you don't even know Jack shit about whom I'm fucking and whom I'm not. Just talking shit as usual.
But you know what I don't have the time right now to call you out on all your bullshit so it is what it is and I don't really care anyways. I have more important shit going on in my life right now than to worry about some internet troll on a hooker board.
Gabacho.And I don't have the time to go through your 1300+ posts to find and quote your disgusting reports. Those who read them, know what I'm talking about. And you know it too.
I never said it was a nice place. Seems like you are assuming it was a nice place because of the price I paid, which may not be the case at all!
But just because I do not choose to pay 200,000 for a hooker, does not mean I do not choose to spend 200,000 on other things. Some posters falsely assume that if you do not spend 200,000 on a hooker, then you do not have 200,000 to spend.
You do not know the experience you will have with the girl before you agree to the price. So to say that you are paying for GFE would be counting your chickens before they hatch.
Yep. Thought I was going to have a GRE (Great Restaurant Experience). Both me and old girl got sick from the 200,000 lunch and we ate different things. So much for getting what you pay for! LOL.Okay, so you went to the place that was NOT nice, but willing to pay 200 k for lunch. Sounds dumb to me. If you are willing to pay premium price for whatever product or service, you have higher expectations in regards to the quality of said products / services. Sure, sometimes it happens that your expectations are not met. But more often than not, they are met. You always come up with some exceptions to the general rule. You got to change your nickname to Mr. Exception. If I have 100 dinners at nicer, higher priced establishments with good reviews, and get a food poisoning 1 time, does this fact invalidate my 99% above average to excellent experiences? It fucking doesn't. Again, you get what you pay for.
TheDerilious
07-13-24, 18:25
Centro is not for everyone so I think that is not how an average person should approach it. It works better when you are flexible and have other options like casas or facebook.
If you can adapt and are looking for good sex with an above average looking girls, it is just the same. It will be a mistake to go there to look for diamond (a so called 9 or 10). For a 400 mil girl, you have 1 strike while you have 10 strikes for a 40 mil girl, You have a stereo type on how things work and that limits you.That could be true; we all have our blindspots and I'm not immune to that. In this case, I disagree that I'm missing anything because I actually agree with everything you said. It just makes logical sense to me that a very frugal approach to mongering requires much more time than a "normal" approach. But for most guys who visit, time is the one thing they are missing. Thus, they have to compensate with money to improve their odds. They will have limited "shots" to test out girls so they need to make the most of their shots. They don't have 10 strikes to use during a trip. They may not have hours to cultivate a facebook group and use up strikes on them. I've listed more upscale casas (like Ellas, though it's more agency than casa) that do return better results. All that said, it still seems to me that Lleras provides good service at a reasonable level for time limited mongers. They should be aware of the overpriced touts and massive Gusto's upcharge but they can negotiate in that space to generally get what they want.
I also get the feeling that it seems like people think I'm saying that only high-priced girls are good when that's not my intention at all. I just see the pendulum swung too far over in the other direction where mongers are being denigrated for even daring to walk past Lleras (not you, of course). I appreciate having a more logical back and forth with you and I do respect your opinion. It's refreshing compared to some of the dick waving monkeys with their heads up their asses.
I've got a girl on the way over.
BTW, you never answered the question: Can someone tell me why you want to pay a girl to pretend to be your girl friend? LOL!.Got a girl on the way? What an achievement! Sucking yourself off no longer helps?
To answer your question: your damaged brain can't figure out the correlation between the quality of sex and a girl being or pretending to be a girlfriend? I don't hire "dick mechanics", I hire girls who show me a good time.
Think we have all paid and have not paid. Sorry, does not make you special at all my brother.
Well, I know exactly who I am. I don't give a fuck who I am to a someone who has attitudes like yourself. Just another one of those north american guys who won the birth lottery and think that their appearance gives them some privilege in the world. You want to go toe to toe with me when it comes to financial means?
Tell me how long you have had enough passive income to support yourself. I'll share how long my passive income stream has been supporting me.
Your problem is outlined below. You do not know the difference between, quality, value and price.
Well brother I don't have to get on a plane to bang hotties. I am using the computer that makes me money, on the table where I eat my food, in the room I fuck my hotties. What you doing back in your country of origin? Working? LOL! Nah, I don't do that shit. That.
News flash, my world does not revolve around pussy and I don't hate on anyone. I will continue to pay what I choose to pay for my pussy. You as a punk ass ***** mother fucker are trying to make yourself feel better by using nothing more than a playground rant I have not hear since elementary school (mine is better than yours) LOL! GTFOH. You shouldn't need to defend yourself or attack me. If you are really all about what you say you are about.
First of all this is the written form of communication. So, you must of missed a lot in your formative educational years.
I get all the pussy I am willing to pay for. I don't understand guys that claim to be high value yet goto prostitutes. Why pay for something you can get for free?
Nah, you are doing nothing more than being a keyboard warrior and beating on your chest. I obviously something I WROTE triggered you. You do not need to prove to me or anyone else you are getting hot girls. But that thought that I am jealous of you. LOL. Tell the stories of your achievements to your bitches. I am not the one.
When you have a medical student make soup for you and send it to you in a taxi because you are sick and then have her apologize that she cannot come over and take care of you because she has to study for her final tomorrow. That is when I'll know you are getting girls at least equal to the ones I am getting. LOL! Oh, she is a doctor now and still fucking me.
Sangnyc gets pussy that is unattainable for me. He knows this how? Just because because of who he is and because he has stood up upon his pedestal of privilege and declared it. LOL!.
The nonsense cannot stop until either STFU or start WRITING posts that make sense.A medical student who couldn't bring you soup and apologized. That's your definition of love? Lmao. Well I had my ex model GF send 1000 $ to my best friend in the United States because the Versace website doesn't accept Colombian credit cards so that he can order it overnight for it to get to my house on time for my birthday. Or how about when this same beauty pays for vacations to Cartagena or random weekend getaways out of her own pocket.
And even after I broke it off with her she keeps all those moments with pics of me and us on her IG page.
So yea I'll actually double down on what I said. The women I get are unattainable for you.
Why do high value men pay for sex?? It simply cuts out the stress and time consuming stress of being in a relationship. Why?? Time is $$.
And in my country of origin I'm sitting on my million dollar property all paid off and a milly in investments and continuously growing to make more $$.
I know I ain't the richest guy on this forum. But it's so obvious the way you judge others you're a cheap ass hating MF that most in my position would def despise.
Why don't you go to the Dubai forums or Sao Paolo forums and make fun of how much guys are paying for pussy there?? You're an absolute joke lmao. Keep making that $$ off your computer lmao.
Now that you mention it. YEP!
Looks like the hate is strong for a chick who is trying to better her life by some guy buying her a BMW. Not to mention someone who says it was overpaying when they paid the same chick a paltry sum of 200,000 pesos.
That post speaks for itself. Maybe AI has hijacked someone's handle because it has gone from I fucked up by paying so much and being overcharged because I did not know better, to don't make fun of me overpayinga chick with a BMW by giving her 200,000, to if you can not afford to overpay then why are you even traveling, to losers hate on men for paying what they want to pay. I guess the loser was hating on himself when he said he did not know any better when he paid the chick the $200 that he himself wanted to pay.
"Losers hate on men and say it is not worth it when they paid what they wanted to pay. Yeah I remember when I said I knew I was being overcharged by paying $200 because I did not know any better by paying what I wanted to pay. Cocaine is a helluva drug.Lmao. You think I'm hating on a girl that got the bmw?? I'm feeling bad for the guy because he buying a 300 mil hooker whose been passed around to the whole community a bmw and he doesn't even know she has a past of being a hooker. And yes I know this for a fact.
Yea I've overpaid when I didn't know better. But at the end of the day I got what I wanted.
Lmao I can't stop laughing at how pathetic you are.
It's refreshing compared to some of the dick waving monkeys with their heads up their asses.Why do you talk about yourself like that? LOL!. What is you post count these days? Under 100.
As I said, you can get the last word since nothing was disputed, but I do want to highlight a difference for other mongers to understand.It is not about getting in the last word. It is about an accurate representation of the many words that I have written. I am not going to allow you to co-op my arguments by claiming we are in agreement. Nothing could be further from the truth.
You pivoted: Your original point was that price equals quality in life. I disagree. Now you want to take the position that higher quality and price has to do with the level of effort that you put in in order to attain it. That is some world class NFL running back type spin. A hat trick. A mid air Pele kick for a goal. LOL!.
Gabacho, in my view, represents the difference between a tourist and a long-term resident. If your goal is to visit a country for sex tourism for 2 or 3 weeks at a time and wipe your hands clean after leaving to return to life back home, his experiences are not really relevant.I see that as an excuse. I know many people who do not live in the Dominican Republic. But they can operate just as well or better than I do precisely because they decided to put in the work.
I value his opinion and it may serve as a guide for improving your own travels but it doesn't really help unless you are willing to make an investment to "mastering" Medellin. That work can be put in by anyone who has the determination and discipline to put it in. The knowledge is available for free on the internet.
If any long-term resident wants to complain about guys spending too much, then they should just take the advice you so graciously put forward, "Make more money. " It's what I did. Girls charge 150 K pesos more than they did 4 years ago, but I get paid 50 k USD more than I did 4 years ago. Just do that LOL.Good for you! Can we get a golf clap for the young fella. I say that the weekend warriors should not be complaining about guys who know the real deal getting prices way below what either they can or won't. While sitting walking past first class on the way to my seat I have never had anyone stop me and tell me that because I paid a lot less money my experience is going be of a lower quality.
Anyone who did do that I would just tell them that have paid a lot less for my plane ticket than they did because everyone on the plane is going to the same place and is going to arrive at the same time. LOL.
PUSSY IS PUSSY
Yet a weekend warrior will talk shit to a more experienced person in a minute about how how the quality of the prostitutes they hire are better and promote more "self improvement" than the less expensive ones that I hire.
It's what I did. Girls charge 150 K pesos more than they did 4 years ago, but I get paid 50 k USD more than I did 4 years ago. Just do that LOL.Your extra 50,000 USD / year, is not going to help you learn the language or culture of Colombia. You use some your hard earned money to buy some self help books, join a gym, consult with a dietitian, have personal chef prepare your meals, and get your clothes tailored, order to engage in "self improvement". But if you don't work your personal skills, the "soft skills" that money can't buy then even with a extra 50,000 USD / year you will just wind up being a pig with a good haircut in a good suit. LOL!.
The good thing is that both sides can exist in harmony. Tourists get their nut and guys like Gabacho can laugh at them when they pay discount prices for the same girl because they've put in the work to cultivate a good arrangement. It's still good because for most of the tourists, it is no skin off their back to pay the prices they are paying to have a more leisurely time on their vacation.Weekend warriors are the ones with the problems. Weekend warriors NEED to stop complaining about the prices that those who opt for a more immersive experience and put the work in to pay. If they do that then they can coexist. Weekend warriors need to stay in their mother fucking lane and not talk shit to those of us who already got things on lock. Speaking directly to you TheDerilious.
They say I'm bipolar so indecisive
So muthafuckin' what I know some bitches who like it. - By the way, Jezzy.
I get it now. You are little frustrated because not only are you a wage slave, you are writing from sex prison right now. I see that you need to strike out at me in order to feel better about yourself. It is not a problem. I can take it. LOL!. Just keep in mind that your ad hominem attacks will not change the fact that I get pussy on a nightly basis and you don't. Yes, I pay. Who posting up in here does not. LOL!
Got a girl on the way? What an achievement! Acrtually I am not the one who thinks hiring prostitutes is any kind of achievement at all.
To answer your question: your damaged brain can't figure out the correlation between the quality of sex and a girl being or pretending to be a girlfriend? You know why I have such trouble understanding the GFE self delusion bullshit? Because when I want a girl friend I get a real one that I don't have to pay. Not a single person has explained to me why they choose to pay for something that should be able to be had for free. I am all for play acting. I enjoy a girl in a french maid costume.
I don't hire "dick mechanics", I hire girls who show me a good time.There you go with all the other north american privilaged mother fuckers that somehow think that paying more equals higher quality. I will add your name to the list of individuals who cannot distinguish the difference between quality, value and price. My "dick mechanics" show me a very good time. What your brain needs to figure out is that we can all enjoy ourselves in different ways and at different price points.
I do not care what another mother fucker does with his money. Except when he comes up in here claiming that his deep pockets makes him better than everyone else because he pays his prostitutes more. ROTFLMAO. The difference between the price anyone plays has more to do with where they procure their prostitutes and their negotiating skill. The entire "I don't have time" argument is a bullshit cop out by mother fuckers to lazy to put in the work are too afraid to just ask for the price they want and if they don't get it move on. I always stay focused on the deal and not the girl.
I am still waiting for your PM letting me know when and where you would like to meet me. I'll get the first round!
They will have limited "shots" to test out girls so they need to make the most of their shots. They don't have 10 strikes to use during a trip.You don't have to finish.
it still seems to me that Lleras provides good service at a reasonable level for time limited mongers.As far as SG goes, what is the difference in service level? Most of them have similar background.
Don't have to get on a plane? That's because you have already fled your country of origin where you could not even get a crack head to fuck. And guess what, you had to take the fucking plane to get there. So stop fucking bragging.Um, I think he lives in México and not sure if you're aware, but you don't need a plane to decamp to México. You can get all the way from Alaska to the Darien Gap in a car. Then you just need to take a boat around the Darien Gap, and you can go all the way to the Straits of Magellan by car. Do you know what a boat is? Are you aware that the globe was circumnavigated before the invention of the airplane?
It doesn't always mean they can't afford it. But it often very well does.Totally agree. I'm not buying this bullshit about "I can afford it but choose to spend the minimum". Mfs should ask themselves a simple question. If money is no issue whatsoever, like, if they have an unlimited budget to spend, would they still choose a 14 k public bus to get to the city from the airport? Or would they still be flying economy vs first class? I bet mfs would jump on that first class like there is no tomorrow and be fucking top escorts everywhere in the world.
Totally agree. I'm not buying this bullshit about "I can afford it but choose to spend the minimum". Mfs should ask themselves a simple question. If money is no issue whatsoever, like, if they have an unlimited budget to spend, would they still choose a 14 k public bus to get to the city from the airport? Or would they still be flying economy vs first class? I bet mfs would jump on that first class like there is no tomorrow and be fucking top escorts everywhere in the world.I will. You have much to learn about life. I took the bus even on company's dime when I was not in a rush.
You can't tell if someone is cheap or not by what they spend on sex. Take Mr E for example, he told a story about he gave money to a veteran in the parking lot. That to me is not cheap. Read some interactions he had with his father, he is not cheap. That is how I tell if someone is cheap of not. You are looking at the wrong place.
I will. You have much to learn about life. I took the bus even on company's dime when I was not in a rush.
You can't tell if someone is cheap or not by what they spend on sex. Take Mr E for example, he told a story about he gave money to a veteran in the parking lot. That to me is not cheap. Read some interactions he had with his father, he is not cheap. That is how I tell if someone is cheap of not. You are looking at the wrong place.It's not only what they spend on sex. The bus from the airport is a great example. And you are weird af, if you prefer to ride a bus with 20-30 other people and no AC, and then take an Uber or walk to your hotel or airbnb once you get dropped off, versus hiring a private chauffeur with a comfortable car that drops you off at your doorsteps. I don't know a single person who rides a bus from the airport. Uber is fast and convenient and doesn't cost a fortune. I could understand if riding a bus was faster, similar to riding a metro in a big city, but no, the bus doesn't save you time.
Mr Enternational
07-13-24, 23:34
It's not only what they spend on sex. The bus from the airport is a great example. And you are weird af, if you prefer to ride a bus with 20-30 other people and no AC, and then take an Uber or walk to your hotel or airbnb once you get dropped off, versus hiring a private chauffeur with a comfortable car that drops you off at your doorsteps. I don't know a single person who rides a bus from the airport. Uber is fast and convenient and doesn't cost a fortune. I could understand if riding a bus was faster, similar to riding a metro in a big city, but no, the bus doesn't save you time.Tell Warren Buffett that he needs to get rid of that old beat up Cadillac and stop eating those free McDonald's meals. Imagine one of the richest men in the world driving that bullshit car and eating that bullshit food.
Life is not all about money and not everyone is in as big of a hurry as you are. To me life is about experiences.
So you turn your nose up to the thought of being on a bus with 20-30 Colombians, but you do not mind being in a plane with 150 of the same people for hours in order to arrive in Colombia and pay Colombians for sex or to pretend to be your girlfriend?
Me and old girl took Indriver to the restaurant the other day. It was 5. 3 km, took 31 minutes, and cost 16,000 pesos. When we left the restaurant we decided to walk the 5. 3 km back to the hotel. We must be weird af preferring to do that. We could have just called Indriver because it is a convenient, private chauffeur that does not cost a fortune.
Could we both together not afford 16,000 pesos one more time? Well since along the way I bought acai for 20,000 pesos, bought a horsehair shave brush for 25,000 pesos, saw a phone place and stopped to get a new custom gel screen protector for 20,000 pesos, I would say the issue was not money.
Many people would say you are weird af for paying all that money and flying all that way to have chicks pretend to be your girlfriend. Many people do not know a single person that would do such a thing. But I guess you have your reasons, the same as other people have their reasons for doing countless other things they do that are not the same as you would do.
P.S. No the bus from Medellin airport does not save you time, but it takes about the same amount of time as an Uber or taxi and costs way less. Still can't understand it though huh? Some people travel for total experiences, not just to hurry up and stick their dick into a woman they think is hot.
I will. You have much to learn about life. I took the bus even on company's dime when I was not in a rush.
You can't tell if someone is cheap or not by what they spend on sex. Take Mr E for example, he told a story about he gave money to a veteran in the parking lot. That to me is not cheap. Read some interactions he had with his father, he is not cheap. That is how I tell if someone is cheap of not. You are looking at the wrong place.Thank you Nounce for keeping 100 and I agree completely with you.
First of all too many people in life define themselves by their things and what they can buy with the worthless fiat currency they earn as wage slaves.
"I took the bus even on company's dime when I was not in a rush". Oh shit. Mother fuckers have reading compression problems. You explained your reasoning. when I was not in rush explains it all. Riding the bus never meant that you could not afford other transportation. You just choose the transportation that suited you when you had the luxury of time.
That is what people miss. Time is the true luxury. Freedom is the ability to do what you want. You make the decision to take the bus. Your choice. My entire life I have preferred to let someone else transport me. Plane, train, bus, automobile. I simply prefer to let someone else do the driving.
So, back when I was a wage slave before I emancipated myself, I was traveling and arrived at a destination and needed to get from the airport to my hotel. A limo driver approached me and asked if I needed a ride somewhere. I told him I couldn't afford him. He told me that I could. That he would take me for the same price as a regular taxi. I said, ok. So we arrive at my hotel and I pay him. He told me it was a win / win for us both because he needed to be in the city and by transporting me he did not have to dead head. Do you know that for the rest of my time traveling to that particular city he would always come to meet me at the airport and take me to my destination in the city for the exact same price he gave me that day?
If I had unlimited money would I fly first class all the time? No, only on international flights. On short flights First Class is overkill. But there is always an assumption that First Class is expensive. Not all the time. Sometimes you can catch anomalies in pricing. I can fly First Class at times because I am willing to take a route that is not optimal. I am time rich and cash poor. TheDerilious makes more money on his raises than I have in the bank. LOL! Not hating. Congratulations to him. I live where I want, pay for what I can afford. Travel where I want. Some would say I do it on the cheap. Maybe so. What exactly is it to them?
I have real girlfriends. I help them financially. You can argue that I am paying them for sex and if that helps you sleep better at night go ahead, you do that for yourself. My problem, I will not treat a prostitute better than I tread a girl who is checking in on me, willing to cook, clean, and take me to hospital, run errands for me, bring me food and basically handle anything in life I ask them do to within their abilities. That is what I speak of when I am referencing the girls in my life I consider my "girl friends". I will not treat a prostitute better than these real people (I have a girl friend every country I visit). If money was indeed unlimited I would provide even more financial assistance to them until the point where they would not even appreciate it. Then when they get out of pocket I would drop them like a hot pan and scream out the window: next. LOL!
My point is and always will be, when it comes to hiring prostitutes people lose their fucking minds and cannot distinguish between: quality, value and price. The idea is proffered by several of the poster up in here that the mere payment of a higher price automatically means that the quality their prostitutes are higher. Nothing could be further from the truth! If they want to tie up their self identity in something as trivial as that, then they can do it. I have absolutely zero problem with it. I'm comfortable in my own skin doing what it is I do.
Pussy is Pussy
And I don't have the time to go through your 1300+ posts to find and quote your disgusting reports. Those who read them, know what I'm talking about. And you know it too.Get the fuck out here with your bullshit. The search function on ISG works just fine. Takes seconds.
YOU LIE!
If you are lying about this what else are you lying about? Produce the post or apologize and shut the fuck up!
A medical student who couldn't bring you soup and apologized. That's your definition of love? No, it is the definition of kindness. Something that you simply do not understand.
Well I had my ex model GF send 1000 $ to my best friend in the United States because the Versace website doesn't accept Colombian credit cards so that he can order it overnight for it to get to my house on time for my birthday. Or how about when this same beauty pays for vacations to Cartagena or random weekend getaways out of her own pocket. And even after I broke it off with her she keeps all those moments with pics of me and us on her IG page. So yea I'll actually double down on what I said. The women I get are unattainable for you.Nothing is unattainable if you don't want in the first place. I give you an example of some who gave of themselves and you response with stories about money.
Why do high value men pay for sex?? It simply cuts out the stress and time consuming stress of being in a relationship. Why?? Time is $$. Time is not money. My time is more valuable that any worthless fiat currency than anyone can give me.
And in my country of origin I'm sitting on my million dollar property all paid off and a milly in investments and continuously growing to make more $$. I know I ain't the richest guy on this forum. But it's so obvious the way you judge others you're a cheap ass hating MF that most in my position would def despise.You have me there. I don't even have 50,000 USD in the bank. I don't own any property in the country of my origin. But I have all of my time. I have my health. I have my freedom. Impressive for a man who would be despised in your circles.
Why don't you go to the Dubai forums or Sao Paolo forums and make fun of how much guys are paying for pussy there?? You're an absolute joke lmao. Keep making that $$ off your computer lmao.Why don't you goto to Dubai and hire your prostitutes there.
You LIE! I have never made fun of anyone over what they have paid to hire a prostitute. But thanks for proving to me that you cannot distinguish between quality, value and price.
I have to keep making money on my computer in order to pay for my modest lifestyle. Don't have money like you brother. I am humbled and will remember to bow in your presence the next time we hang out. I will even present you a peace offering and buy you a drink. Thank you for taking the time to even respond to your lowly servant. I stand corrected and will always remember my place in life from now on. LOL!
BTW, how is your Spanish? You are fluent right?
Um, I think he lives in Mxico and not sure if you're aware, but you don't need a plane to decamp to Mxico. You can get all the way from Alaska to the Darien Gap in a car. Then you just need to take a boat around the Darien Gap, and you can go all the way to the Straits of Magellan by car. Do you know what a boat is? Are you aware that the globe was circumnavigated before the invention of the airplane?I think mf lives in the DR. If so, do you really think he got there by boat? Come on.
Get the fuck out here with your bullshit. The search function on ISG works just fine. Takes seconds.
YOU LIE!
If you are lying about this what else are you lying about? Produce the post or apologize and shut the fuck up!Apologize for what? He knows what I'm talking about but plays innocent.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2899572]Okay bro, since you asked for it, here it goes. This is a true story by the way. So I was in Cucuta, Norte de Santander. It's a medium sized city of about a million people on the Colombia / Venezuela border. Street walkers at the time, November of 2022, cost about $6 usd or 30,000 COP. Anyways it's about 6 pm and I walked down to this park called Parque Mercedes where there are street girls in the park waiting for customers and nearby hotels that rent rooms for 30 mins for a nominal fee (I want to say 5 mil pesos).
Anyways so I found this really attractive Venezolana named Valentina. About 5'3 athletic shaped body, cinnamon reddish brown skin, two french braids on each side of her head and a super pretty face with a smile que me llam la atencin. She said she was 20 years old.
Anyways I get her into the cheap 30 minute room and have her strip naked and sit on the edge of the bed and I begin performing DATY. She smells good, she tastes good, nice clean shaven pussy but wait, something wasn't quite right. Something was wrong.
She had all these little small skin tag looking bumps all over her pussy lips. I believe it was HPV. I could even feel them with my tongue like little small scabs scraping my tongue as I stroked her vulva up and down.
So the I thought to myself hmm. If she has HPV then she must be open to going bareback. So then I looked up at her and I said (keep in mind we had agreed to the normal rate of 30 mil pesos at this point) "si te pago mas podemos culear sin preservativo?" and she replied "cuanto? " It was then in this moment when I realized like wholly fuck I'm about to bareback this super pretty vennie with an active HPV outbreak. (Luckily I myself had already had an HPV outbreak back in 2016 and got over it and I have since had the Gardasil 9 vaccine as well).
So I respond "te doy 50 mil" which is 20 mil ($4 usd at that time) more than the original agreed upon price when we entered the room and she accepted. So I quickly reached for my tube of fisiomax (Colombian Lubricant) and lathered up my soldier and climbed up on the bed putting my arms under her legs and spreading her open nicely and stuck my penis inside her raw.
I shit you not, I could literally feel all her genital warts on my dick too like a prickly pear scratching at my dick as I penetrated her and they weren't just on the outer lips and vulva I could now feel that they were all inside her vagina too. It was a different experience than any other sexual encounter I could remember. But she was super pretty I just kept looking at her face and kissing her lips while I was doing the deed.
However, I soon realized the prickly pear feeling was keeping me from being able to cum so I had her change positions into the boca abajo position and I slammed her from the back thrusting as had as I fucking could and finally I busted a huge fucking nut inside her, filling her prickly pussy up with my hot load. I never felt more relieved than in that moment, hot and sweaty and heart pounding, finally releasing my jizz inside of her.
There never was a knock at the door and I'm pretty sure we were in there for more than 30 mins. Anyways we both got dressed and I gave her the 50 mil pesos we agreed upon ($10 usd at the time) and she was super happy and I felt super content and satisfied. I then walked back to my hotel on la septima and took a shower and went to bed.
Hope you enjoyed my story seor. It's the nastiest experience I can remember having at least recently.
Apologize for what? He knows what I'm talking about but plays innocent.No I do not know what you are talking about. I have never said that I fucked anyone with a "greenish discharge" leaking from her vagina. You may be thinking of the post I made in the Havana, Cuba section about a girl I fucked in Cucuta who had genital warts, but she did not have a "greenish discharge" I never said that.
And yes, Sub is correct that you should apologize. Apologize for talking shit and making up lies. You know you were lying about the "greenish discharge" and that is why you have yet to show where I said it. Like Sub said, it takes all of 3 seconds to use the search function.
So show the proof or STFU.
And BTW I don't expect you will actually apologize because I know you are just a hater and get off on talking shit to me; in fact your meager pathetic existence is just to troll people here on ISG. So no need to apologize just make sure that next time you want to talk shit, produce some facts first before you make statements that make yourself look like an idiot.
Gabacho.
Speaking of Gabacho, obviously you haven't read some of his reports where he fucked some disgusting women with a severe skin rash and greenish discharge coming out of pussyWhere in the post that you provided did Gabacho say anything about greenish discharge?
Apologize for what? He knows what I'm talking about but plays innocent.For making inaccurate statements. Funny thing you just proved yourself wrong with the post that you quoted. Don't know how to use the quote process correctly?
You don't need to apology for just being you Stupid will continue to be what stupid does. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Um, I think he lives in Mxico and not sure if you're aware, but you don't need a plane to decamp to Mxico. You can get all the way from Alaska to the Darien Gap in a car. Then you just need to take a boat around the Darien Gap, and you can go all the way to the Straits of Magellan by car. Do you know what a boat is? Are you aware that the globe was circumnavigated before the invention of the airplane?In order to preserve my personal safety against haters, I can neither confirm nor deny that I live in Mexico
I actually have multiple residences in different countries around the globe. My point was I do not need to get on a plane to get pussy when I am in one of my residences. MiamiBoy he does not seem to understand that.
I don't care if someone else wants to pay for a plane ticket, pay for lodging, buy food and drinks in order to take a vacation to another place or to Colombia. What they do with their dick and their money is no concern of mine. I simply ask that mother fuckers like MiamiBoy stop talking out the side of his neck about stuff he does not know about me. Hell, he cannot even use the search function on ISG to produce material he claims The G man wrote.
I suggest that he spends some time on self improvement along with TheD in order to learn the difference between quality, value and price. As you pointed out, paying attention to geography might help him also.
I just was in Bogota the other day for a cpl days 3/23 - 3/25.
Anyways this chica showed up on Monday to my hotel I stay at whenever I'm in Bogota on Cra 13 and 22 she's a friend of a friend.
Anyways we agree to BBFS CIP for 100 k COP.
I get her in the room strip her naked and lock her pussy it has a slight pungent smell and taste with an aftertaste of sweet. I have her give me BBBJ but she only does a mediocre job with minimal effort so I can tell she doesn't like sucking dick raw. At this point I decide to dive in to see how her pussy feels.
Right away I could tell something wasn't right. She had a fucking tampon inside her pussy. It felt horrible I couldn't get all of my dick in and it was scratching my dick too, very uncomfortable to say the least. So I pull back out and I have a talk with her in Spanish. I was like:
"mira ya se que te metiste algo en la cuca, no me importa si estas en tus dias o si tienes tu periodo, no me importa si estas sangrando, eso para mi no es problema, lo que me molesta ms es esa vaina que te metiste en la cuca, quitatelo porfa".
And she actually went in the bathroom and took the tampon out and thru it in the trash can and came back and got back on top. Instantly I could feel the difference and what a difference it was being able to insert all of my penis inside her and feel her moist warm walls gripping me and tugging on me and she goes up and down. Felt a million times better now. I could tell she felt embarrassed saying shit like "why si manchamos la cama?" so I just reasurred her that I didn't give a fuck saying "no imports la cams solo me importa el sexo" and I continued to BBFS her period pussy that now felt like heaven. Eventually she got tired so I got on top in missionary and pile driver and fucked her hard until I came inside her mixing my cum with her blood. Super nasty super sexy super fucking intense orgasm.
And guess what Mr. Igor, I'm not worried about any virus or bacteria, gonorrea chlamydia HIV or otherwise.
To live your life in fear is actually not living at all.
I say to hell with the fucking risks. Do what you enjoy doing and what makes you happy because for all we know we could die tomorrow and then you will have never had the experiences that made you happy.
I'm sure the people who died in the world trade center on Sept 11 2001 were not expecting to die that day. Wouldn't it have been a shame if you had died a virgin that day in the WTC because you were scared to have sex because of an STD you might or might not have contracted and then the next day you went to work and 9/11 happened and now you are fucking dead?
The point is that we are all here on a limited amount of time and we shouldn't be limiting ourselves from the things that we enjoy just because you are scared of some virus or bacteria. Hell in the years 2020 and 2021 more people died from Covid than died from Aids and those people weren't even having sex they just got covid from breathing so should I stop breathing because I am afraid of catching covid??
Anyways this is the end of this public service announcement.
Carry on.
-Gabacho.Another disgusting post.
Tell Warren Buffett that he needs to get rid of that old beat up Cadillac and stop eating those free McDonald's meals. Imagine one of the richest men in the world driving that bullshit car and eating that bullshit food.
Life is not all about money and not everyone is in as big of a hurry as you are. To me life is about experiences.
So you turn your nose up to the thought of being on a bus with 20-30 Colombians, but you do not mind being in a plane with 150 of the same people for hours in order to arrive in Colombia and pay Colombians for sex or to pretend to be your girlfriend?
Me and old girl took Indriver to the restaurant the other day. It was 5. 3 km, took 31 minutes, and cost 16,000 pesos. When we left the restaurant we decided to walk the 5. 3 km back to the hotel. We must be weird af preferring to do that. We could have just called Indriver because it is a convenient, private chauffeur that does not cost a fortune.
Could we both together not afford 16,000 pesos one more time? Well since along the way I bought acai for 20,000 pesos, bought a horsehair shave brush for 25,000 pesos, saw a phone place and stopped to get a new custom gel screen protector for 20,000 pesos, I would say the issue was not money.
Many people would say you are weird af for paying all that money and flying all that way to have chicks pretend to be your girlfriend. Many people do not know a single person that would do such a thing. But I guess you have your reasons, the same as other people have their reasons for doing countless other things they do that are not the same as you would do.
P.S. No the bus from Medellin airport does not save you time, but it takes about the same amount of time as an Uber or taxi and costs way less. Still can't understand it though huh? Some people travel for total experiences, not just to hurry up and stick their dick into a woman they think is hot.Warren Buffet is an exception, just like any other multi-billionaire in the world. People of his caliber are extremely talented in what they do and are "out of this world". He is 93 years old BTW. And bought his Cadillac when he was 83. Do you think at this age he would buy a Bugatti to drive it around Omaha?
I do fly to Colombia with 150-200 people on board simply because I have no other option to get there. If I could afford a private jet, I would absolutely fly private.
Walking back home after dinner to get some exercise and buy a few things along the way or taking a cab back can't be compared to taking a bus from the airport. It's like deciding what movie to watch, or what to eat for dinner, one option is not better than the other, just a matter of mood / preference. But if you decide to share a bus with 20-30 sweaty people after you had a long flight and spent 1-2 hrs in the immigration line, and have a baggage on you, just to save a few pesos, well, more power to you. I guess you and Nounce love to torture yourself.
The Nomad Capitalist is quick to tell you he does not fly private because he cannot justify the inordinate costs of doing so. He is a must-millionaire. The idea that everyone will spend money just because they have it is bogus. It is an idea that is proffered by people who don't have to money to live as they wish too. Nounce, Mr. E and I have enough money to live as we wish to. So we do not feel the need to spend money just because someone else might choose to make a different decision.
MiamiBoy instead of worrying about how others spend their money, how about you improve upon your own personal finances so you can spend money as you choose too.
How you like me now?
Warren Buffet is an exception, just like any other multi-billionaire in the world. People of his caliber are extremely talented in what they do and are "out of this world". He is 93 years old BTW. And bought his Cadillac when he was 83. Do you think at this age he would buy a Bugatti to drive it around Omaha?
I do fly to Colombia with 150-200 people on board simply because I have no other option to get there. If I could afford a private jet, I would absolutely fly private.
Walking back home after dinner to get some exercise and buy a few things along the way or taking a cab back can't be compared to taking a bus from the airport. It's like deciding what movie to watch, or what to eat for dinner, one option is not better than the other, just a matter of mood / preference. But if you decide to share a bus with 20-30 sweaty people after you had a long flight and spent 1-2 hrs in the immigration line, and have a baggage on you, just to save a few pesos, well, more power to you. I guess you and Nounce love to torture yourself.
Mr Enternational
07-14-24, 18:00
But if you decide to share a bus with 20-30 sweaty people after you had a long flight and spent 1-2 hrs in the immigration line, and have a baggage on you, just to save a few pesos, well, more power to you. I guess you and Nounce love to torture yourself.Once again, you can not stop referring to it being about money when it is obvious that everyone in here can afford the few dollars more it would be for a taxi.
If you could stomach being cooped up with 150 sweaty people on your long flight then surely I can deal with being with 20-30 (even though I think the bus holds less than 20) of them for a 40 minute bus ride. I more than likely came from a short flight within Colombia anyway, but I have also taken the bus in other countries after a long flight. Brazil, Thailand, Philippines, France, Scotland, England, Dominican Republic, Panama, Argentina, among other places. I am allergic to neither people nor bus rides.
In order to preserve my personal safety against haters, I can neither confirm nor deny that I live in Mexico.Such a pussy. LOL.
And you are weird af, if you prefer to ride a bus with 20-30 other people and no ACI refused my family to pick me up at the airport when I went back to US the majority of the times which actually costed a lot more. I am consistent. LOL.
Another disgusting post.That actually was a great post. Did you really not get it?
Such a pussy. LOL.I've told you more than one time I am willing to back up anything I post here in person.
I am still waiting for your PM letting me know when and where you would like to meet me. I'll get the first round!MiamiBoy you are a punk ass ***** mother fucker who is:
just a hater and get off on talking shit to me; in fact your meager pathetic existence is just to troll people here on ISG. So no need to apologize just make sure that next time you want to talk shit, produce some facts first before you make statements that make yourself look like an idiot.
TheDerilious
07-15-24, 03:50
You don't have to finish."Shots" more broadly reflects finishing but also time spent. Assume you have to waste about 30 minutes from agreeing with a girl in the street to determine a session is not up to snuff, it stands to reason that you are once again placing a multi-hour burden on mongers to find the right girl, including having to hold back multiple times to save up your nut. This doesn't seem like a reasonable activity at all, in my opinion in the hopes of finding an acceptable session.
As far as SG goes, what is the difference in service level? Most of them have similar background.This has been my experience.
Generic Casas. Not normally GFE, a 30-45 pop with decently attractive girls. Seems there is some variance here because some girls might provide GFE.
"Higher" level casas (like Ellas) - more likely to be GFE, generally around 60 minutes with attractive girls.
Strip Clubs like Fase Dos. Not GFE, 45-60 pop with conventionally (usually plastic) attractive girls. More mechanical but gives off a PSE vibe.
Centro. Not normally GFE, 30-45 pop with big variance in girl's attractiveness.
Lleras and facebook / online girls. More likely than the other options to be GFE or PSE. Less clock watching, especially among Facebook girls. They really seem to vibe check but I usually do order Facebook girls for the afternoon so they might have a lot of time to just hang out.
Online Agencies. Not so great in my view, especially the ones that cater to Foreigners with foreigner prices (you will see some 40+ year old women charging 800 K). I did get some GFE but I felt the clock watching. If you follow the reviews from the Colombian forums and pick the girls that have great reviews (they will obviously have more mileage), the service does noticeably improve.
TheDerilious
07-15-24, 04:02
You pivoted: Your original point was that price equals quality in life. I disagree. Now you want to take the position that higher quality and price has to do with the level of effort that you put in in order to attain it. That is some world class NFL running back type spin. A hat trick. A mid air Pele kick for a goal. LOL!.I don't care about the rest of your stupidity since I can feeling it sapping my own sanity, but I did not say this and you clearly can't read. I stated that it is stupid to say that "higher prices almost never equate to higher quality" which is what you said. I stated that there is a very clear point where that is true but there is also a much bigger portion of life where price does improve quality. I have never made a different point and I have never advocated for wasting money (e. G. Buying Gucci bags). If you couldn't understand that because you were so triggered or maybe you were beating your dick trying to prove how much of a man you are, then I can't help you. Go back and read my posts and tell me where I implied that paying more always improves quality. Please find it, I beg you. If not, just be a real man and apologize and accept the fact that you have literally always been agreeing with the point I made LOL.
Nounce and I have been debating the finer points of why he believes it is still more valuable to search non-Lleras areas for an optimal experience which is perfectly fine. I don't even disagree with that, in the end. I just don't have a raging hatred of guys using Lleras as an option (and not overpaying, of course) and don't like dismissing it as an option. I don't believe Nounce has a fundamental problem with people doing this either, just like I don't have a problem with people using Centro or anything else to find what works for them. It's why our conversation is a civil discussion unlike every conversation you having with everyone.
But I digress, it's time for your frothing response where bold text a bunch of words. Fire away, sailor, I'm glad to give you a better nut than any of your "girls" are apparently giving you.
I mainly am sharing information. I only wrote it because you were asking about it for next trip.
it stands to reason that you are once again placing a multi-hour burden on mongers to find the right girlYou interview the girl the same way you interview a girl in Lleras. What makes Lleras girl better if both pass your interview?
I said this.
Centro is not for everyone so I think that is not how an average person should approach it. It works better when you are flexible and have other options like casas or facebook.I picked one up from Lleras after dinner recently and I reported here. Lleras looked a lot like El Centro. She was barely over 18 but looked older due to makeup. She has worked there for 3 months and had 6 customers during the period. I also reached an agreement with another one about one month before her. But she was too young and she said she had 3 customers.
I think mf lives in the DR. If so, do you really think he got there by boat? Come on.Dude, you have your head so far up your ass. People take boats. I will take a boat over a plane 90% of the time. Spain to Morrocco, Holland to the UK, Buenos Aires to Montevideo, many other boat trips. But hey, I'm weird. I take the bus from the airport in MDE. And SJO. And EZE. And the subway from BCN. Don't know how I've made it through 57 countries without private drivers. Of course, I respect the laws of the countries I visit, so if Uber's not legal, I wouldn't use it for that reason alone.
I'd estimate I've screwed around a dozen women that I met on public transportation or while waiting for same. Have you screwed a dozen Uber drivers?
Dude, you have your head so far up your ass. People take boats. I will take a boat over a plane 90% of the time. Spain to Morrocco, Holland to the UK, Buenos Aires to Montevideo, many other boat trips. But hey, I'm weird. I take the bus from the airport in MDE. And SJO. And EZE. And the subway from BCN. Don't know how I've made it through 57 countries without private drivers. Of course, I respect the laws of the countries I visit, so if Uber's not legal, I wouldn't use it for that reason alone.
I'd estimate I've screwed around a dozen women that I met on public transportation or while waiting for same. Have you screwed a dozen Uber drivers?You are talking about taking a ferry for a short 1-3 hrs ride. Good luck taking a ferry to DR from the States. Unless you want to splurge on a cruise ship and spend a couple of days or whatever it takes to get there.
As I said earlier, public transportation is fine if it saves time. In a big city like NYC or Chicago subway makes sense. Sometimes public transportation is the only way (in rare cases) to get from point a to point be.
Dude, you have your head so far up your ass. People take boats. I will take a boat over a plane 90% of the time. Spain to Morrocco, Holland to the UK, Buenos Aires to Montevideo, many other boat trips. But hey, I'm weird. I take the bus from the airport in MDE. And SJO. And EZE. And the subway from BCN. Don't know how I've made it through 57 countries without private drivers. Of course, I respect the laws of the countries I visit, so if Uber's not legal, I wouldn't use it for that reason alone.
You are talking about taking a ferry for a short 1-3 hrs ride. Good luck taking a ferry to DR from the States. Unless you want to splurge on a cruise ship and spend a couple of days or whatever it takes to get there.There is a ferry from the Dominican Republic to Puerto Rico. Last time I checked Puerto Rico is a unincorporated territory of the United States of America. That means you can take a boat from the United States to the Dominican Republic.
https://ferriesdelcaribe.com/
I'd estimate I've screwed around a dozen women that I met on public transportation or while waiting for same. Have you screwed a dozen Uber drivers?Notice that he did not answer your question. LOL!
Mr Enternational
07-15-24, 17:28
This has been my experience.I like that assessment. It should be in the ROD thread.
Mr Enternational
07-15-24, 17:41
You are talking about taking a ferry for a short 1-3 hrs ride. Good luck taking a ferry to DR from the States. Unless you want to splurge on a cruise ship and spend a couple of days or whatever it takes to get there.LOL. Well if you want to be technical, there is actually a ferry that goes from the base of Zona Colonial in Santo Domingo to the States. It is a 14 hour ride and I think it is $90 or so.
MongerHunger
07-15-24, 20:12
This is some of the sickish shit that I have ever read!
Who else has a comment or are you too disgusted to say anything?
Okay bro, since you asked for it, here it goes. This is a true story by the way. So I was in Cucuta, Norte de Santander. It's a medium sized city of about a million people on the Colombia / Venezuela border. Street walkers at the time, November of 2022, cost about $6 usd or 30,000 COP. Anyways it's about 6 pm and I walked down to this park called Parque Mercedes where there are street girls in the park waiting for customers and nearby hotels that rent rooms for 30 mins for a nominal fee (I want to say 5 mil pesos).
Anyways so I found this really attractive Venezolana named Valentina. About 5'3 athletic shaped body, cinnamon reddish brown skin, two french braids on each side of her head and a super pretty face with a smile que me llam la atencin. She said she was 20 years old.
Anyways I get her into the cheap 30 minute room and have her strip naked and sit on the edge of the bed and I begin performing DATY. She smells good, she tastes good, nice clean shaven pussy but wait, something wasn't quite right. Something was wrong...
LOL. Well if you want to be technical, there is actually a ferry that goes from the base of Zona Colonial in Santo Domingo to the States. It is a 14 hour ride and I think it is $90 or so.How many people do you know or have heard of taking that ferry? What about the trip FROM the continental States to DR?
While your buddy Cmdr is right about Puerto Rico, we again are talking about very few exceptions. It's like discussing a possibility to travel to Russia via the Bering Straight vs taking a normal flight. Can be done technically, but in reality, almost impossible.
LOL. Well if you want to be technical, there is actually a ferry that goes from the base of Zona Colonial in Santo Domingo to the States. It is a 14 hour ride and I think it is $90 or so.Is there a casino on that boat, do you know? That's the only time I gamble, is on long boat rides. But I think the longest boat ride I've taken was around six hours. I took a 19 hour train ride once in Argentina, the whole width of the country from Bariloche to Viedma. It was beautiful, especially at sunset and sunrise. Nothing out there. Dunno if it's still running. It was a real piece of shit.
Public transportation is ecologically sound, economically sound, safer than a random Uber driver, and is a rich source of women to hit on.
This is some of the sickish shit that I have ever read!
Who else has a comment or are you too disgusted to say anything?Thank you for your feedback, brother.
To put everything into context, that post was in response to another post by a member named AmericanPi who told me to "tell us your dirtiest, nastiest, or best story".
So I'll take it from your comment that I successfully told my nastiest story. Mr AmericsnPi also told me to make it count. I think I did just that.
-Gabacho.
How many people do you know or have heard of taking that ferry? What about the trip FROM the continental States to DR?
While your buddy Cmdr is right about Puerto Rico, we again are talking about very few exceptions. It's like discussing a possibility to travel to Russia via the Bering Straight vs taking a normal flight. Can be done technically, but in reality, almost impossible.I've been in the Bering Sea on a Factory Trawler boat catching mackerel all the way out in Adak. Russia wasn't that far away. It's possible to go there by boat.
Still waiting for you to show me the evidence about the "greenish discharge" bro or are you going to admit you were wrong and apologize for spreading false information??
By the way Remember to vote for Trump / Vance in November and to support Project 2025.
Gabacho Out.
Mr Enternational
07-16-24, 02:43
How many people do you know or have heard of taking that ferry? What about the trip FROM the continental States to DR?
While your buddy Cmdr is right about Puerto Rico, we again are talking about very few exceptions. It's like discussing a possibility to travel to Russia via the Bering Straight vs taking a normal flight. Can be done technically, but in reality, almost impossible.You love moving the goal post don't you? If I say I know 800 people that have taken that ferry, you would respond well how many of them were wearing checkerboard pants and rainbow shirts.
Your statement was "Good luck taking a ferry to DR from the States. " Then when people show it is actually a thing, you want to holler well maybe it is possible but 70% of the population of the Western Hemisphere does not take it.
The fact is that you did not know it was a thing when you made the statement, but you can not admit you were wrong!
The ferry is fucking huge and is a regularly scheduled route. It is not something that only runs once a month or has to be chartered. It is NOT an exception. It has been running for years. I have been going to DR for as long as I have been going to Colombia, and for all of those 20 years I have always seen that ferry docked at that port.
I only know 1 person who has flown into Olaya Herrera Airport in Medellin, but that does not mean that a flight in or out of there is an exception. It seems things are only exceptions if they are not an option or frequently done by you. Fuck what any of the other 8 billion people on earth do; it is only considered normal and not an exception if YOU do it.
LOL. Well if you want to be technical, there is actually a ferry that goes from the base of Zona Colonial in Santo Domingo to the States. It is a 14 hour ride and I think it is $90 or so.Hey Mr. E, now that we both proved that MiamiBoy is knowledge challenged we are buddies. Please feel free to stop by the Bus Bar and let me get the first round to celebrate our new friendship.
How many people do you know or have heard of taking that ferry? What about the trip FROM the continental States to DR?
While your buddy Cmdr is right about Puerto Rico, we again are talking about very few exceptions. It's like discussing a possibility to travel to Russia via the Bering Straight vs taking a normal flight. Can be done technically, but in reality, almost impossible.Here we have MiamiBoy being so embarrassed that he has now chosen to move the goal posts in order to continue to "save face".
How you like me now?
I've been in the Bering Sea on a Factory Trawler boat catching mackerel all the way out in Adak. Russia wasn't that far away. It's possible to go there by boat.
Still waiting for you to show me the evidence about the "greenish discharge" bro or are you going to admit you were wrong and apologize for spreading false information??
By the way Remember to vote for Trump / Vance in November and to support Project 2025.
Gabacho Out.You got to be authorized by the Russian government to make that crossing. It is not an easy task. You can't just hop on a boat / ferry and go as you please.
I have posted a couple of disgusting posts of yours, they are more than enough to show the quality of girls you deal with. I'm not going to go over all of your 1300+ posts to produce more evidence. I don't even know what is more disgusting, genital warts or greenish discharge, both are in the same category.
You love moving the goal post don't you? If I say I know 800 people that have taken that ferry, you would respond well how many of them were wearing checkerboard pants and rainbow shirts.
Your statement was "Good luck taking a ferry to DR from the States. " Then when people show it is actually a thing, you want to holler well maybe it is possible but 70% of the population of the Western Hemisphere does not take it.
The fact is that you did not know it was a thing when you made the statement, but you can not admit you were wrong!
The ferry is fucking huge and is a regularly scheduled route. It is not something that only runs once a month or has to be chartered. It is NOT an exception. It has been running for years. I have been going to DR for as long as I have been going to Colombia, and for all of those 20 years I have always seen that ferry docked at that port.
I only know 1 person who has flown into Olaya Herrera Airport in Medellin, but that does not mean that a flight in or out of there is an exception. It seems things are only exceptions if they are not an option or frequently done by you. Fuck what any of the other 8 billion people on earth do; it is only considered normal and not an exception if YOU do it.You still have to fucking fly or get on the cruise ship to get to Puerto Rico if you then want to take that ferry. The point that I made is still valid. Puerto Rico's population is about 1% of the total US population. Therefore, only 1% of the US population can hop on that ferry without the need to take a plane. And 99% would get on a plane or splurge on a one-way cruise. Sounds like a fucking exception to me.
Warren Baffet drives a 10 yr old Cadillac. How many American billionaires (out of 750+) drive the same or similar car? Don't you think Warren is an outlier? No need to answer. I'm sure you will come up with some other BS exception, because this is what you do all day.
I only know 1 person who has flown into Olaya Herrera Airport in Medellin, but that does not mean that a flight in or out of there is an exception. It seems things are only exceptions if they are not an option or frequently done by you. Fuck what any of the other 8 billion people on earth do; it is only considered normal and not an exception if YOU do it.The fact that you know only 1 person who has flown into Olaya Herrera airport (I know 1 person as well) only proves that mongers do not know anything about it, or prefer to fly into the airport in Rio Negro.
Some people have both penis and vagina. I'm sure you will say, oh, I know a few hermaphrodites or even fucked a few. I don't know any, but I'm not saying they don't exist. But these people are outliers.
You love moving the goal post don't you? If I say I know 800 people that have taken that ferry, you would respond well how many of them were wearing checkerboard pants and rainbow shirts.
Your statement was "Good luck taking a ferry to DR from the States. " Then when people show it is actually a thing, you want to holler well maybe it is possible but 70% of the population of the Western Hemisphere does not take it.
The fact is that you did not know it was a thing when you made the statement, but you can not admit you were wrong!
The ferry is fucking huge and is a regularly scheduled route. It is not something that only runs once a month or has to be chartered. It is NOT an exception. It has been running for years. I have been going to DR for as long as I have been going to Colombia, and for all of those 20 years I have always seen that ferry docked at that port.
I only know 1 person who has flown into Olaya Herrera Airport in Medellin, but that does not mean that a flight in or out of there is an exception. It seems things are only exceptions if they are not an option or frequently done by you. Fuck what any of the other 8 billion people on earth do; it is only considered normal and not an exception if YOU do it.Miamiboy cannot admit that he is wrong, moves the goal posts then counter attacks. Just like TheDman does.
What exactly is his point about flying? Only one out of 4 people in the United States of America take a plane to get locations in their own country. If you are getting on a plane you are an outlier if you are a USA citizen no matter if it is domestic or international.
Any of us here that have a passport that are taking a plane, that are traveling to another country, that are paying for food, lodging and clothing are in the minority in of our country of origin. FACT!
Full Stop!
MongerHunger
07-16-24, 05:52
There is a ferry from the Dominican Republic to Puerto Rico. Last time I checked Puerto Rico is a unincorporated territory of the United States of America. That means you can take a boat from the United States to the Dominican Republic.
https://ferriesdelcaribe.com/
Notice that he did not answer your question. LOL!I have taken that ferry from PR to DR. Back when I took it you had to go to Rio Piedras neat the University and catch a shuttle from the ferry office all the way to Mayaguez, PR on the west coast. That's where the ferry was at. People even took their cars and motorcycles. When I got to Santo Domingo I was picked up and I stayed in San Pedro with a friend. During that trip it was my first time to Juan Dolio and Boca Chica, also went to La Romana. Since then I have been on several cruises that stopped in DR. There is a cruise port in Puerta Plata (Amber Cove) and La Romana. I've been to both ports. Met a chica at the Jumbo in La Romana and went across the street to a bar, had some Presidentes and took her to one of the rooms in the back of the bar. When I go to the Puerta Plata cruise port I have my driver pick me up. I met him on my first trip there. He will take me Sosua for the day and back to catch the ship. He knows all the spots. There's a nice place on the malecon in Puerta Plata that serves up some good Sancocho and Mariscos. I think it's at Long Beach at the end where the road curves.
You got to be authorized by the Russian government to make that crossing. It is not an easy task. You can't just hop on a boat / ferry and go as you please.
I have posted a couple of disgusting posts of yours, they are more than enough to show the quality of girls you deal with. I'm not going to go over all of your 1300+ posts to produce more evidence. I don't even know what is more disgusting, genital warts or greenish discharge, both are in the same category.The point isn't that they are both equally disgusting (which is your opinion). The point is that you made a false statement and you are not backing it up with any proof. But then again you make many false statements so nothing here is new.
Let's start SureMan Where are you from?
Now you fucking Americans start this shit about racism in Colombia;Please tell me that the perfect country you are from where there is not racism or color bias.
Let me educate you. The original passport boys were pale face mother fuckers who used there guns as passports to rape and pillage girls. They were the original pussy colonizers. They are the OG Passport Boys.
Keep that shit in America.It is all over the world bro. Colorism is all over the world. Don't understand that the lighter you are in Colombia the better you are perceived? You don't understand what a big deal the current Vice President in Colombia is? If not you need better cultural education before talking shit to others brother.
Morgan Freeman today that asshole Don Lemon if you stop talking about racism it will continue.How does a discussion about racism in the United States of America apply to any particular discussion that is being conducted about Colombia? Ask an Colombian and they could give a fuck about what Morgan Freeman has to say. WTF?
Most black people in America just talk about it to keep it alive.If you are not from the (Dis) United States of America how do you know? By watching TV or YouTube? So, you qualified your statement by saying "most". But it is still your opinion. You have got no statistical facts to back up your "most" even to show a simple 51% majority.
You black gringos should stop this shit in Colombia.I prefer the term "Gringo negro". That is what I got called in the Dominican Republic when I was there. If you are one of the privileged pale face mother fuckers from anyplace in the world that thinks your received some rights to superiority by birth, you better get the fuck out of here with your bullshit!
It a fucking mongering board.No the forum is to share information on having sex with girls. Please the FAQ if you do not understand this.
And fuck off all you racist asshole here.Are you saying the Black Americans that travel to Colombia are racist? Who are they and who are they racist against?
Whoever replies I don't give a fuck.Clearly!
Sureman.What exactly are you sure of?
You need to be more specific about your references and accusations. You are not making a bit of sense my ISG brother
Here is a picture of the Ferry inbound from Puerto Rico to Port of Call: Santo Domingo Republica Dominicana. I would often see it when I happened to be looking out of the window my ocean view apartment. Not bad for a broke, busted individual who doest not have 2 COP to rub together. LOL!
One more reason people should not speak out of turn when they don't know the facts.
Mr Enternational
07-16-24, 15:51
You still have to fucking fly or get on the cruise ship to get to Puerto Rico if you then want to take that ferry. Is there a ferry between the USA and the Dominican Republic? I am not asking is there a blue ferry. I am not asking if there is a ferry with submarine engines. I am not asking if there is a ferry with a Filipino captain. I just want you to admit that there is a ferry. It is a closed end question. Yes or no. Either there is a ferry or there is not one.
Mr Enternational
07-16-24, 15:55
The fact that you know only 1 person who has flown into Olaya Herrera airport (I know 1 person as well) only proves that mongers do not know anything about it, or prefer to fly into the airport in Rio Negro.Huh? What does me only knowing 1 person that has flown into that airport have to do with mongers? Are you assuming the only people that I know who go to Medellin are mongers? Because if that is the case you would be dead wrong. Most of the people I know who go to Medellin are not mongers at all. As a matter of fact, I can count the people I know who are mongers that go to Medellin on one hand. The people that I know who are not mongers that go to Medellin, I would run out of fingers and toes counting them.
I have taken that ferry from PR to DR. Back when I took it you had to go to Rio Piedras neat the University and catch a shuttle from the ferry office all the way to Mayaguez, PR on the west coast. That's where the ferry was at. People even took their cars and motorcycles. When I got to Santo Domingo I was picked up and I stayed in San Pedro with a friend. During that trip it was my first time to Juan Dolio and Boca Chica, also went to La Romana. Since then I have been on several cruises that stopped in DR. There is a cruise port in Puerta Plata (Amber Cove) and La Romana. I've been to both ports. Met a chica at the Jumbo in La Romana and went across the street to a bar, had some Presidentes and took her to one of the rooms in the back of the bar. When I go to the Puerta Plata cruise port I have my driver pick me up. I met him on my first trip there. He will take me Sosua for the day and back to catch the ship. He knows all the spots. There's a nice place on the malecon in Puerta Plata that serves up some good Sancocho and Mariscos. I think it's at Long Beach at the end where the road curves.Nice! You are definitely living well when your are in the Dominican Republic. I'm making an effort to establish a base in La Romana. If they can get the crime under control it will definitely be on the come up!
I have posted a couple of disgusting posts of yours, they are more than enough to show the quality of girls you deal with. I don't even know what is more disgusting, genital warts or greenish discharge, both are in the same category.I would say that if you have never had genital warts, syphillis and gonorrhea, you haven't lived.
You still have to fucking fly or get on the cruise ship to get to Puerto Rico if you then want to take that ferry. ... only 1% of the US population can hop on that ferry without the need to take a plane. Whatever airport in the USA you care to choose, most USAns would need to hop on a plane to get there. So your point is?
Whatever airport in the USA you care to choose, most USAns would need to hop on a plane to get there. So your point is?This is exactly my point. Mfs are saying you can get there by boat.
I would say that if you have never had genital warts, syphillis and gonorrhea, you haven't lived.I feel bad for you then.
This is exactly my point. Mfs are saying you can get there by boat.No, your missing the point. To leave USA from a particular airport, most USAns would need to take a flight to get to that airport, just as they would to get to Puerto Rico. So stating that it's an obstacle to get a flight o the ferry port is a disadvantage does not stand up (since it's the same if you choose to fly overseas too).
I feel bad for you then.You don't know what your missing.
Elvis 2008
07-23-24, 16:44
I feel bad for you then.Just stop MB! If ever the Medellin morons distinguished themselves at how fucking stupid they can be, it has been this thread.
I remember one time I tried to debate someone with dementia and I laughed at myself. What does it say about me that I think I can convince someone mentally ill of anything?
The boat from Puerto Rico? HPV but not green discharge? You have not lived until you have had Syphilis? WTF?
Tell them to have a nice day and then if you want to have success with women, you just do the exact opposite of everything they say.
He is missing the point. He was wrong. He refuses to admit it. It is really a non issue at this point. We all get what we want how every we get there right?
No, your missing the point. To leave USA from a particular airport, most USAns would need to take a flight to get to that airport, just as they would to get to Puerto Rico. So stating that it's an obstacle to get a flight o the ferry port is a disadvantage does not stand up (since it's the same if you choose to fly overseas too).
TheDerilious
07-23-24, 18:47
No, your missing the point. To leave USA from a particular airport, most USAns would need to take a flight to get to that airport, just as they would to get to Puerto Rico. So stating that it's an obstacle to get a flight o the ferry port is a disadvantage does not stand up (since it's the same if you choose to fly overseas too).The original point that was lost in the exchange is that there is a major advantage to flights that no other mode of transport can match unless you looking for something niche (some people fear flying, others want a leisurely trip and don't care about transit time, etc.). To take a ferry from PR to DR still requires Americans to deal with the hassles of airline travel (to PR) and then add in the hassle of handling your luggage and traveling to the boat, waiting for that, and then dealing with the boat travel time. So yes, there is a hard, tangible "disadvantage" to taking the ferry instead of just flying to DR. The cheap charlies always act like it's no big deal and that all " travel is travel" or something stupid like that and then move the goalpost to "well, I was just saying that it's possible" when called out.
This stuff always starts because some people can't accept that paying 100 k for a private, air-conditioned taxi from the Medellin airport directly to your hotel is a completely rationale and advantageous choice when compared to taking a 20 K public bus to San Diego / Centro and then paying another 20 k for a taxi to your place, all the while spending extra time to get to your destination and adding safety risks. It always has to be some sort of "weekend warrior throwing money away" or "foreigner getting fleeced" behavior so they can show off how they much save and how much better they are than others.
It's never good enough to just bring up the options and let people make their own choices on what they prefer, based on their budget and desire for comfort. They will say that but then sneer at people who agree and choose the option they don't like.
Mr Enternational
07-23-24, 20:43
The original point that was lost in the exchange is that there is a major advantage to flights that no other mode of transport can match.LOL. This is like playing operator. That was not the original point at all. The original point was that someone said good luck taking a ferry from the United States to the Dominican Republic as if a ferry between the two does not exist. When people showed there is actually a regularly scheduled ferry, the person did not want to admit being wrong, but instead made every excuse why said ferry was not practical.
I think mf lives in the DR. If so, do you really think he got there by boat? Come on.
Good luck taking a ferry to DR from the States. Unless you want to splurge on a cruise ship
To take a ferry from PR to DR still requires Americans to deal with the hassles of airline travel (to PR) Puerto Ricans are "Americans," as you ignorantly use the term, and they don't have to do that. Just sayin'.
I live in a smallish city that has an airport with connections to exactly three larger cities. Of those three, one is a four hour drive, another about the same, and the last one is a nine hour drive. The first two can also be accessed by train, about a six hour drive. The first one, which has the best connections, is also six hours by bus and that bus takes you right to that airport.
Just looking at city #1, many people living here adamantly refuse to drive, and fly, which if your goal is to arrive in that city's downtown, takes the same four hours if you arrive say an hour and a half before the flight. Conversely, many people here adamantly refuse to fly, and drive. These two groups of people are equally adamant their choice is correct. And, it's quite likely that both groups are making a logically correct decision for them.
And hardly anyone considers the train, where you have the most room and a bar car vs a two drink limit. People from this part of the country don't really have passenger trains on their radar. Anyway I have four options, drive my car, fly, take a bus, or take a train. Why would I not want to evaluate all of those options? Mostly I take the bus.
LOL. This is like playing operator. That was not the original point at all. The original point was that someone said good luck taking a ferry from the United States to the Dominican Republic as if a ferry between the two does not exist. When people showed there is actually a regularly scheduled ferry, the person did not want to admit being wrong, but instead made every excuse why said ferry was not practical.I actually responded saying SubCmdr was correct. However my point is still valid. In the context of this discussion it was obvious that I meant the continental USA, there was no need to clarify. But you and SubCmdr wanted to be too technical about it, and came up with this BS about Puerto Rico and the ferry. This doesn't change my fucking point. BTW, SubCmdr did not confirm nor deny taking that ferry on a consistent basis, not once in a lifetime, to get to DR.
I actually responded saying SubCmdr was correct. However my point is still valid. In the context of this discussion it was obvious that I meant the continental USA, there was no need to clarify. But you and SubCmdr wanted to be too technical about it, and came up with this BS about Puerto Rico and the ferry. This doesn't change my fucking point. BTW, SubCmdr did not confirm nor deny taking that ferry on a consistent basis, not once in a lifetime, to get to DR.You would not know the continental Yew Ess from the conterminous Yew Ess from a steaming plate of piss. What continent do you think Puerto Rico is in, Mars?
Elvis,
You are not any more informative when it comes to girls in Medellin than you are giving lame ass political commentary in another thread. Miami Boy was wrong about the Ferry. Period. Full Stop. He needs to man up and admit it. Did you see the picture I posted. I took that picture myself out the window of my ocean view apartment in Santo Domingo Este.
It takes no special skills to hire prostitutes. That is the lesson all new people should learn. All the rest of this is just mental masterbation by wage slaves that are bored to death waiting for their next trip to get some pussy because they are professional tricks and cannot get any pussy where they live.
Every place I have a residence I have pussy waiting for me. Can you or MiamiBoy say the same? LOL! If you are calling me a moron I am not interested in being what you think is smart. LOL!
I am a peace with myself and all others
Just stop MB! If ever the Medellin morons distinguished themselves at how fucking stupid they can be, it has been this thread.
I remember one time I tried to debate someone with dementia and I laughed at myself. What does it say about me that I think I can convince someone mentally ill of anything?
The boat from Puerto Rico? HPV but not green discharge? You have not lived until you have had Syphilis? WTF?
Tell them to have a nice day and then if you want to have success with women, you just do the exact opposite of everything they say.
You would not know the continental Yew Ess from the conterminous Yew Ess from a steaming plate of piss. What continent do you think Puerto Rico is in, Mars?Continental United States: The 49 States (including Alaska, excluding Hawaii) located on the continent of North America, and the District of Columbia.
I actually responded saying SubCmdr was correct.That is all I needed to read. Respect.
BTW, SubCmdr did not confirm nor deny taking that ferry on a consistent basis, not once in a lifetime, to get to DR..I have never taken the ferry ever. But I have also never gone to the moon in a space craft. It does not mean that it is not possible. That is not being technical. That is being logical. Using words precisely is a skill. I practice it.
I am at peace with myself and all others
TheDerilious
07-24-24, 18:06
Puerto Ricans are "Americans," as you ignorantly use the term, and they don't have to do that. Just sayin'.Most people, with a brain at least, can understand that making an assertion that 98% of a group has a "trait" doesn't not invalidate the existence of the 2% that doesn't. One can easily generalize that Americans have to fly / boat to PR even if Puerto Ricans (Americans) in PR don't have to. If I say that Americans as a population, like guns, are you going to point to the 20+% that want to repeal the 2nd amendment to say that I'm wrong? No, because everyone understand generalized analysis versus blanket statements since I never said "all". Best to take arguments in good faith rather than showing your ass and getting triggered. On a side note, I support PR (and DC) being formally adopted into the United States as a state.
Travel exampleThank you for making my point. Rationale humans take public transportation that works best for them. In this case, Air travel has almost become synonymous with international travel for a myriad of reasons. Air travel is generally synonymous with most all long term travel that requires passing a body of water. Clearly the broader population (I didn't say all) values the benefits of air travel over other methods, usually due to time savings. When time traveled is equivalent, you see more variance. I'm actually not even sure what's being argued here except for you guys deflecting from the main point by using edge cases to try to refute and inductive generalization. Let me reframe the logical fallacy at play (you're close to a atomistic fallacy and definitely a motte and bailey) for you and Mr. E.
Broader Discussion: Some types of travel are superior are better than others. Most pay to fly to Med and like to take the more expensive taxi to their hotel rather than use the bus and that should be considered acceptable. Broader back and forth on the validity of taking the bus and whether one is being a weekend warrior or a cheap charlie depending on their chosen travel options.
Cmdr: I don't take a flight. Then some *incoherent dick waving*.
Pointless Digression into where people live and taking boats.
Main Assertion: Americans take flights to DR, and Americans can't take a ferry to get to DR.
Counter: Here is a tiny percentage that can.
Miami: Okay, but I talking about the vast majority that can't to illustrate my point.
Counter: More anecdotes. If you can't resolve my tiny edge case, your point is invalid.
In the end, it's an absurd reduction of the argument to boil down the main arguments of traveling to whether a ferry exists from PR to DR when the argument was always generalized in nature (arguably an atomistic fallacy). It's definitely a motte and bailey to continue on the point of Miami being wrong about the ferry to ignore the broader the point being made about general travel trends.
Maybe this is the wrong place for this but I find it annoying. I have a girl that I see regularly when I am in Medellin and I guess its a sugar baby relationship. She knows I see other girls and I don't ask what she does when I'm away. I met her at a soccer match. Of late while I'm back home I have been sending her money to hold her over until I get back. Nothing big just maybe $100 or so even few weeks. I told her if she wants more she needs to go look for a real boyfriend. I am willing to do it because she offers A+ GFE does what I want and is a 9. The problem is even though I think we are on the the same page on what our relationship is whenever she wants money she will begin by texting me to see how I'm doing how's my mom, job etc. It will be sometimes a full day of texting before she gets around to ask me for money and does this every time. All the fake concern gets under my skin and I want to just tell her to just send one text to ask for money if that's what she wants. From reading posts here I guess this a thing in Colombia but how does this not seem insincere in Colombian culture. Could be a lot worse I could complain about I guess.
Mr Enternational
07-24-24, 18:48
It's definitely a motte and bailey to continue on the point of Miami being wrong about the ferry to ignore the broader the point being made about general travel trends.But it was never about general travel trends. It was about one thing and one thing only: not being able to take a boat from the USA to the DR unless it was a cruise ship. It was not about preference. It was not about the norm. It was not about what people do in general. It was not about what is easiest or quickest. It was about you are not taking a boat from the USA to the DR unless it is a cruise ship.
So go ahead and talk shit; Talk shit about me; And go ahead and talk shit; About my g-g-generation - My Generation Limp Bizkit.
Hey I see you are back in Colombia. Came over to the Rants section in Thailand and I broke it off in your ass half way around the damn world. Still have not had enough. Ok, lets play some more. Your serve.
On a side note, I support PR (and DC) being formally adopted into the United States as a state.Never happen! You know why!
Air travel has almost become synonymous with international travel for a myriad of reasons.False.
Example: European content. South East Asia. Train travel. Oh shit facts continue to fuck with people up in here. Don't get triggered by them.
Air travel is generally synonymous with most all long term travel that requires passing a body of water.True.
Cmdr: I don't take a flight.Never said that.
What is being displayed is a north american perception, on a web site wita international perspective.
Next argument will be: we millionaires up in here. What is best: Private jet or Commercial First Class?
Cause we don't, don't give a fuck, and We won't ever give a fuck until you; You give a fuck about me; And my generation - My Generation, Limp Bizkit.
That is some classic shit right there my ISG Brothers.
TheDerilious
07-25-24, 02:09
But it was never about general travel trends. It was about one thing and one thing only: not being able to take a boat from the USA to the DR unless it was a cruise ship. It was not about preference. It was not about the norm. It was not about what people do in general. It was not about what is easiest or quickest. It was about you are not taking a boat from the USA to the DR unless it is a cruise ship.If you're going to deny that the discussion 5 pages was about people taking buses to Centro vs. Paying for the airport taxi, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. Go back and look and you'll see a multi-page discussion on quality vs. Price. The topic was floating from "pussy is pussy" to buying MCDonald's burgers to travel costs. It was all generic discussions on finding tangible value in some things that cost more money. IMO, I think you're just being obtuse and harping on one point where you won a point without actually addressing the larger point. As some might say, missing the forest for the trees.
MiamiBoy can gladly correct me if my perception was wrong and that he was solely focused on boats from the US to DR as opposed to making a broader discussion where he happened to be somewhat wrong about one given point which, incidentally, means nothing to the larger point.
TheDerilious
07-25-24, 02:26
False.
Example: European content. South East Asia. Train travel. Oh shit facts continue to fuck with people up in here. Don't get triggered by them.Yup, what a great "fact" you just dropped. Sourced and everything.
What is being displayed is a north american perception, on a web site wita international perspective.No, what's being presented is the perspective of someone with a brain, my pobrecito. It's true that I have an American bias and yes the stats here do show that international travel is majority Air-oriented.
https://www.bts.gov/archive/publications/america_on_the_go/long_distance_transportation_patterns/entire
Most poor countries don't have a lot of international travel and maybe that's your general budget, but it's clear that developed nations like China have embraced flights for when they leave the country. Europe is the only outlier but that's clearly because of the small distances traveled to leave a nation. But I guess you can pull out another "fact" from your ass to counterpoint. Long distance travel is the relevant notion for international travel since it encompasses how people view their global experience, not the edge case of a dude living on the border and biking back and forth across it to get a drink at the pub.
But it was never about general travel trends.It was about one thing and one thing only: not being able to take a boat from the USA to the DR unless it was a cruise ship. It was not about preference. It was not about the norm. It was not about what people do in general. It was not about what is easiest or quickest. It was about you are not taking a boat from the USA to the DR unless it is a cruise ship.You are right.
Why is the TheDerelict fighting the battles of MBoy?
https://www.baleariacaribbean.com/en/new-route-dominican-republic-puerto-rico
Oh shit! Mother fuckers are entitled to their own opinions. Not their own facts!.
MiamiBoy can gladly correct me if my perception was wrongWhat do you think would have happened if MB admitted that he did not know about the boat and agree with the perspective of the 2%?
developed nations like ChinaAre you sure that is true?
like China have embraced flights for when they leave the country. Have you considered that is only because it is the only reasonable choice?
Europe is the only outlier but that's clearly because of the small distances traveled to leave a nation.China borders with many countries. There is a well known initiative that the name escapes me right now. 🤔
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