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Driver: Elvis; Shotgun: MiamiBoy; Rear Left Seat: Villainy; Rear Right Seat: Paulie97; Jump Seat: LoveItHere69. Anyone else who wants to ride let Elvis know. He is going to have to get his clown crew a SUV that seats seven so he can expand his sphere of stupidity.
They be trying to run down The CMDR but I'm an international trick moving about the world and they can't get me cause I stick and move!Excuse me! I am NOT riding in a car with Elvis driving. He doesn't know how to read.
LOL. You have never met her and you never will.Are you sure about that? I've been coming to (and in) Colombia for a decade. Are you sure I didn't meet your girlfriend years ago and fill her full of jizz?
I know she upgraded to Seeking and you thought you found your special girl jajajaja If you really want a scary thought, maybe SubCmdr dumped a load in there also.
Think about this the next time you are kissing her after she tongued your ass. Villainy and SubCmdr may have been the ones who taught her some of her sexual skills that you enjoy so much.
I wouldn't assume that he can afford it. About every expat down I've come across is rich, and the more they drink, the richer they got. LOL.Says the guy who goes to a bar alone (because neither of the 2 friends he has, wanted to go with him) drinks with a random hooker, gets drugged and robbed and then has a crisis of self worth when the story is shared with the ISG membership.
Yep that is the fool I would listen to when it comes to making judgements about other people.
Triple Darknes
09-08-24, 15:18
I find it funny to see that I've been trying my best to stay out of conflicts here on ISG and especially in the Medellin sections. I'm all the way on the other side of the world on my first SEA trip in Thailand and Indonesia. Just enjoying myself and posting a few trip reports here and there and minding my own business for the most part.
Then Elvis, the biggest DOAT (Douchebag of all Time) has to come out of the wood work to call me a fox and say that my women whom I see are not of quality and that I am not practicing safe sex, etc.
I thought we had an agreement to squash the beef and snide remarks but apparently Elvis is not a man of his word. Quite frankly, I fail to understand why the quality of women I choose to see is of any concern to you Elvis, and by extension to you too Miamiboy. You're like a little kid MB1 just hopping into a conversation to instigate and cosign onto another internet bully's remarks. It's my dick, it's my choice. You two douches ought to learn that.
If anything these comments just prove my point that Elvis, Miamiboy and the rest of his crew such as SangNYC, et al. Just continue to instigate flame wars by talking shit, making disrespectful comments, and fueling old fires that had been put out.
Hopefully the Admins and Moderators are taking note.
Too bad Jackson doesn't own the site anymore because guys like Elvis used to get banned for this type of behavior.
But say what you will about me, Elvis. I don't care about you and I'm not mongering to impress you and your high roller buddies who think you are better than me because you source your ladies from Seeking and pay top dollar or have an overpriced apartment in Boca Grande. I didn't use an agency to get my apartment, I rent directly from the owner for $540,000 COP a month and it may not be the most fancy place in Medellin but I m happy there and I've had the place for 2 years now.
After my Asia trip I'll be heading back there. Oh and Miamiboy, it's not a shower head this time, but a sprayer hose called a "bum gun" that I'm going to be installing in my bathroom when I get back. I'll have to post pics LOL.
Anyways I don't see the reason for the animosity and name calling.
Why can't we just agree to disagree and act like gentlemen?
-Gabachito Out.Where do you live at where you're paying 540,000 COP in Medellin?
Even in Cali that's What my Maid pays.
I'm not hating I really want to know.
If you don't live here full time I could see getting an apartastudio. Require more space than that but that's a good price for a second place.
Trip.
Where do you live at where you're paying 540,000 COP in Medellin?
Even in Cali that's What my Maid pays.
I'm not hating I really want to know.
If you don't live here full time I could see getting an apartastudio. Require more space than that but that's a good price for a second place..Santo Domingo Savio II.
Elvis 2008
09-08-24, 18:04
Are you sure about that?Yeah, I am sure.
I've been coming to (and in) Colombia for a decade. Are you sure I didn't meet your girlfriend years ago and fill her full of jizz?You believe the Covid vaccine lowered mortality so if you want to believe that, feel free to believe you fucked my woman. I am not going to change your fantasy driven mind.
Are you sure about that? I've been coming to (and in) Colombia for a decade. Are you sure I didn't meet your girlfriend years ago and fill her full of jizz?
I know she upgraded to Seeking and you thought you found your special girl jajajaja If you really want a scary thought, maybe SubCmdr dumped a load in there also.
Think about this the next time you are kissing her after she tongued your ass. Villainy and SubCmdr may have been the ones who taught her some of her sexual skills that you enjoy so much.Careful there hermano, Elvis gets Butt-Hurt when people talk about his beloved rim jobs that he receives from his supposed Estrato 6 colombiana who's faithful to only him.
Elvis 2008
09-08-24, 18:41
I find it funny to see that I've been trying my best to stay out of conflicts here on ISG and especially in the Medellin sections. I'm all the way on the other side of the world on my first SEA trip in Thailand and Indonesia. Just enjoying myself and posting a few trip reports here and there and minding my own business for the most part. Why can't we just agree to disagree and act like gentlemen?
-Gabachito Out.And you think calling me a douchebag is the way to go? SC dragged you into this. If you had any brains, you would have stayed out.
Then Elvis has to come out of the wood work to call me a fox and say that my women whom I see are not of quality and that I am not practicing safe sex, etc.You posted photos of ugly women, of getting robbed, of saying you were fucking fat women, of getting diseases. Your calling me names does not absolve you of what you posted about yourself. You made yourself look like a Medellin moron not me. SC wants you getting involved because he was getting his ass kicked, and you are so stupid, you took the bait.
I thought we had an agreement to squash the beef and snide remarks but apparently Elvis is not a man of his word.I would not agree to anything with you, you lying POS. You bragged about running to the moderator whenever you got butt hurt. You ran to him, got points for me, and then pretended like you did not. The only time I have EVER run to a moderator was when someone was talking shit about my gal's daughter who was under age.
And then you proved to me you are a liar. When I told of my issue with Medellin customs, you literally made up a bullshit lie about what happened when you were not even there. When other people had problems with customs, your fake ass tried to apologize. Oh, I guess you were right Elvis. Fuck you!
Why would I lie about that? You accused me of lying because your sorry ass cannot handle the truth: Colombia does not want men like you and instead of accepting that, you attacked me.
Quite frankly, I fail to understand why the quality of women I choose to see is of any concern to you Elvis.Because you are bragging about how little you paid for ugly women and are ragging on guys who pay more for quality. You are the one who said you were a loser for fucking ugly women not me. Your running around with a massive inferiority complex is the problem not me. I wish you were happy with what you were fucking versus saying you are and lying about it.
But now you have accepted that and moved on to a country like Thailand that accepts you? That is great. It is the only smart thing you have done. Honestly, I wish you the best of luck and that you stay there.
Elvis 2008
09-08-24, 18:48
Excuse me! I am NOT riding in a car with Elvis driving. He doesn't know how to read.We finally agree on something. The last person I would invite into my car is you. You would feel inferior and make fun of it. I would probably have to hear a story about how you have a car that is bigger and better than mine.
Excuse me! I am NOT riding in a car with Elvis driving. He doesn't know how to read.My apologies my man. I did not mean to offend you. LOL!.
Say Paulie, you can even tell people you went to an Ivy and SubCmdr was in your class. Hahahaha.Paulie69 ask that mother fucker where I went to university to receive my Bachelor's of Arts degree. Here is a clue for you both. Who did Cal Poly lose to on September 7, 2024? My alma mater. Holla!.
How you like me now?
Why would I want to meet you? Dude, you cannot handle what I have on an anonymous forum. You would lose your shit if we met IRL.You do not want to meet me because you do not have the testicular fortitude to speak your strong words to me in person directly to my face. We all know the type. Keyboard warrior typing words from behind the protection of screen. You know your ass can't cash them. LOL!
Elvis 2008
09-08-24, 22:03
Why do you come on here talking like you did something spectacular to get a so-called 10 other than pay her the same as anybody else can do? You are not "scoring" anything and you are not "doing better". YOU ARE PAYING!! Why are you trying to psych yourself up that it is anything other than you forking over money? You are seriously coming on a monger board bragging about the hookers that you pay as if they are off limits to other people's money. Besides that, you have yet to show any of these 10's that you have actually paid to fuck.I figured you would show up. If pussy is pussy, beef is beef right? Anybody who says that beef is beef IMO is eating hamburger, and we all have had hamburger that is good as or better than steaks. The goal for the higher end monger is a great steak. It is a different market than for hamburgers.
But what do we hear from the hamburger eaters? Your paying for so many $ for steak is making my hamburgers more expensive or in SC's case, he makes the totally idiotic claim that the hamburger is the better experience than the steak.
And now you are coming along and saying you do not pay for hamburger and before that, you said you were paying less than everyone else. That has nothing to do with anything. Who is talking about not paying?
The guys going for steak know that there are ripoffs. They know some steaks suck and are overpriced. They know that people are going to dress up hamburger as steak. Steak and Shake calls their meat sandwiches steak burgers. They are fucking hamburgers.
So Mr. E, you tell us you like average looking women, the hamburgers. And that would be great if it were true, and the reason I know it is not true is you showed up at one of the most famous steakhouses in Medellin. You went to Loutron and you said you looked at the women and said to yourself, "You are not getting 300,000 COP from me" which is a whopping $75 today. You can afford that financially. That is nothing for you.
But you cannot handle it emotionally. For whatever reason, it just pains you to much to get ripped off by a high end woman that you have given up trying to get one. So you strike out at people who can emotionally take it. That would be the guys who do pay, get ripped off, let it go, and keep moving. You are jealous of them. I just do not get it.
If you really just cared about having hamburgers, you would not be going to a steak house and bragging about not ordering a steak. That is fucked up.
Where do you live at where you're paying 540,000 COP in Medellin?
Even in Cali that's What my Maid pays.
I'm not hating I really want to know.
If you don't live here full time I could see getting an apartastudio. Require more space than that but that's a good price for a second place.
Trip.He rents a shack in Aranjuez. You can only imagine how the place looks like for under 150 usd a month. I get it, we all have different budgets to work with, but moving to a third world country from the States and downgrading your living conditions is questionable.
Driver: Elvis; Shotgun: MiamiBoy; Rear Left Seat: Villainy; Rear Right Seat: Paulie97; Jump Seat: LoveItHere69. Anyone else who wants to ride let Elvis know. He is going to have to get his clown crew a SUV that seats seven so he can expand his sphere of stupidity.
They be trying to run down The CMDR but I'm an international trick moving about the world and they can't get me cause I stick and move!And you are being dragged on the ground with your balls tied to the trailer hitch.
Why do you come on here talking like you did something spectacular to get a so-called 10 other than pay her the same as anybody else can do? You are not "scoring" anything and you are not "doing better". YOU ARE PAYING!! Why are you trying to psych yourself up that it is anything other than you forking over money? You are seriously coming on a monger board bragging about the hookers that you pay as if they are off limits to other people's money. Besides that, you have yet to show any of these 10's that you have actually paid to fuck.I expected this kind of response from you and you didn't disappoint. Your post shows that you have no experience with 9's and 10's. Do you really think money is all that is needed to get one? Sure, you can throw some crazy number at a woman hoping she will bite. Everything has a price, right? Rich Arabs in Dubai pay tens of thousands of USD to fuck models and shit on them and do other humiliating things to them. Any idiot with unlimited budget can get a 9 or 10, not every single 9 or 10 they come across, but some of them would definitely bite, if the number is high enough, especially in a 3rd world country. However, most of us are not oligarchs, most of us can't afford to pay crazy high rates. This is when other factors come into play. How you look, how you present yourself, how you treat a woman. Ability to speak their language, good sense of humor, social skills, etc all matters in scoring a top shelf girl. But you dumbass think this is only about money, because you only fuck your street hoes for 10-20 bucks. These hoes have low standards or no standards at all, just like yourself, and can go with anyone who got 20 bucks to pay. Old, young, fat or skinny, intelligent or dumb as fuck, doesn't matter as long as you have 20 bucks in your pocket. Or whatever the going rate is. True 9's and 10's are extremely selective, they don't sleep with random dudes. They have plenty of options and offers to choose from, and pick the best ones. MOST of them don't even consider p4p, at least not on a short term basis. They don't want a one night stand, they want a long term arrangement or a relationship with someone they have chemistry with and with someone who can support them long term. You got to realize, in order to fuck a top 1% of women, you got to be in that top 1% of men as well, or close to it. Most of the 9's and 10's are not desperate for money, unlike your street hoes and don't need to fuck multiple guys to make a living. Most of them are not even on the market, because they are already taken. Be it a sugar daddy, or a husband, or a BF. Heck, you won't even see them at the places you normally go to, because these girls only frequent high end places. Premium gyms, boutique stores, high end restaurants, luxury resorts, etc. Guys like Gabacho who lives in his shack in Aranjuez has no chance of even meeting a top shelf girl, let alone fuck them. These girls are sleeping with politicians, businessman, narcos, successful expats and their social circle is completely different from that of Lleras hoes. And again, I'm talking about top 1% of women. Just think about it. These girls are extremely difficult to find / meet let alone fuck. You got to know what a 9 or 10 is, and that comes with experience. Average Joe from Tulsa, OK who has been fucking his obese wife for 30 years, has no clue what a 9 or 10 is. If he comes to MDE any 18-20 yo Paisa would look like a 9 or 10 to him. You got to develop a good taste in women, but this ain't happening if you fuck the same woman for many years and not constantly raise your standards, improve yourself, meet women and get out of your comfort zone.
He rents a shack in Aranjuez. You can only imagine how the place looks like for under 150 usd a month. I get it, we all have different budgets to work with, but moving to a third world country from the States and downgrading your living conditions is questionable.I never said I lived in Aranjuez dumbass. That is where the Exito is located at where I offered to meet you to settle our differences but of course you didn't want to meet because you are a keyboard warrior:
A person who puts aggressive and offensive comments about people on the internet, especially one who hides their own identity. They're just faceless keyboard warriors, targeting people they don't even know
But you dumbass think this is only about money, because you only fuck your street hoes for 10-20 bucks. These hoes have low standards or no standards at all, just like yourself.Funny how you and your supreme leader Elvs always have something to say about the girls that other guys are fucking. Yet you show us no evidence of the girls you are fucking. You attack guys like myself and Mr Enternational talking shit about who we are fucking? Like seriously bro you are a fucking Douche-Tard.
Douche-Tard:
Someone who is simultaneously a "douche"
(i.e., an asshole, jerk, *******) and a "retard." Expresses both unpleasantness of personality AND stupidity at once.
That asshole is too dumb to even come up with a coherent insult. What a Douche-Tard.
You ought to learn not to worry about who the next man is fucking, Douche-Tard.
-Gabacho.
Mr Enternational
09-09-24, 03:51
I expected this kind of response from you and you didn't disappoint. Your post shows that you have no experience with 9's and 10's. Do you really think money is all that is needed to get one? Sure, you can throw some crazy number at a woman hoping she will bite. Everything has a price, right? Rich Arabs in Dubai pay tens of thousands of USD to fuck models What my posts show is that I am actually out mongering. So you are a rich Arab now? So you are just going to keep writing a bunch of words with no picture of a 9 or a 10 that you have actually fucked. So you learn a few phrases from Duolingo, put on a pair of slacks and a clown nose, and you are in there with all the 9's and 10's. What if you forget to bring the money?
Funny how you have seen pictures of no chicks that anybody else here has fucked (despite me posting hundreds over the years) but somehow you know they are all butt ugly, while posting zero pics of any hooker you have claimed to fuck exclaiming they are god's gift to mongering. Yeah nobody else in here has slacks or can make a chick laugh.
Why do you come on here talking like you did something spectacular to get a so-called 10 other than pay her the same as anybody else can do? You are not "scoring" anything and you are not "doing better". YOU ARE PAYING!! Why are you trying to psych yourself up that it is anything other than you forking over money? You are seriously coming on a monger board bragging about the hookers that you pay as if they are off limits to other people's money. Besides that, you have yet to show any of these 10's that you have actually paid to fuck.Excellent post Mr Enternational! I agree with each and every point that you made in it. Never once has anyone who claims they only go with 9's and 10's make the assertion that they were getting free pussy like you do all the time. THAT would impress me!.
And you are being dragged on the ground with your balls tied to the trailer hitch.Interesting analogy. I knew that Elvis was a WHWMF. But I didn't think your were until now.
Lynching in the United States of America by dragging: victims were also killed in a variety of other ways: being shot, burned alive, thrown off a bridge, dragged behind a car,.
Very clear to me exactly why your chose that particular way to illustrate how you would like to treat me in real life. To my international readers, you are getting real insight into the mind of the American of privilege.
SC wants you getting involved because he was getting his ass kickedIt was not happening here and it wouldn't happen in real life.
I quoted Garbacho because he is a real person. Not an anonymous internet personality like you Elvis.
Only you and those like you brag about being Professional Tricks. I have no idea why you tie up your personality and self worth in the attractiveness of the prostitutes you pay to fuck. I am not seeking respect from imaginary personalities on ISG making grandiose claims. I respect individuals I have met in person like Gabacho. He has been the only one so far to have the balls to meet me face to face. I wonder why that is? No, I know. Because he is real. While the rest of you mother fuckers are just imaginary internet personalities that are nothing more than keyboard warriors.
Triple Darknes
09-09-24, 06:03
Santo Domingo Savio II.How did you find the place?
I get that you checked window signs but how did you know to even look in the area?
I. e did you use facebook marketplace or some website or had a referral?
How did you find the place?
I get that you checked window signs but how did you know to even look in the area?
I. e did you use facebook marketplace or some website or had a referral?I found it on Facebook marketplace in summer 2022.
I then Messaged the perdon who posted the advertisement and then she gave me her WhatsApp number where she showed me more pictures and details of the apartment. It's a 2 bedroom by the way not a shack as some idiots think, although it does have a tin metal roof.
Anyways my rent was originally $500,000 COP a month back in 2022 and the deposit was $150,000. I plugged the address into Google maps and it showed me how to get there taking the metro to Acevedo station and then the metro cable to santo domingo station and then about 15 mins walking thru the barrios.
I showed up with my 650 mil pesos in hand and she had me sign a lease and gave me the keys right then and there after she showed me the place and I liked it.
It's actually somewhat expensive for the area. Other apartments in my barrio go for like 400 mil but with utilities separate. With mine the utilitied are included and paid for by the owner. The electricity is prepaid which means I have a little white box that I have to enter codes into to add KWh to the meter but the owner puts 50 mil on it each month and also it comes with a subsidy of about 100 kWh free per month along with the amount that the 50 mil pesos gets. She also pays the EPM acueducto bill and there is a gas line that I use for my stove. $540 mil all inclusive.
I also added an electric shower head in the bathroom in 2023.
-Gabacho.
How did you find the place?
I get that you checked window signs but how did you know to even look in the area?
I. e did you use facebook marketplace or some website or had a referral?I will add to this though that I am fluent in Spanish and I am a Mexican American, so I am Latino. Not sure if a regular English speaking gringo would have the same success as I do living in a Colombian barrio.
And you think calling me a douchebag is the way to go? SC dragged you into this. If you had any brains, you would have stayed out.
You posted photos of ugly women, of getting robbed, of saying you were fucking fat women, of getting diseases. Your calling me names does not absolve you of what you posted about yourself. You made yourself look like a Medellin moron not me. SC wants you getting involved because he was getting his ass kicked, and you are so stupid, you took the bait.
I would not agree to anything with you, you lying POS. You bragged about running to the moderator whenever you got butt hurt. You ran to him, got points for me, and then pretended like you did not. The only time I have EVER run to a moderator was when someone was talking shit about my gal's daughter who was under age.
And then you proved to me you are a liar. When I told of my issue with Medellin customs, you literally made up a bullshit lie about what happened when you were not even there. When other people had problems with customs, your fake ass tried to apologize. Oh, I guess you were right Elvis. Fuck you!
Why would I lie about that? You accused me of lying because your sorry ass cannot handle the truth: Colombia does not want men like you and instead of accepting that, you attacked me.
Because you are bragging about how little you paid for ugly women and are ragging on guys who pay more for quality. You are the one who said you were a loser for fucking ugly women not me. Your running around with a massive inferiority complex is the problem not me. I wish you were happy with what you were fucking versus saying you are and lying about it.
But now you have accepted that and moved on to a country like Thailand that accepts you? That is great. It is the only smart thing you have done. Honestly, I wish you the best of luck and that you stay there.You're damned right I called you a douchebag you fucking douchebag. SUB was simply pointing out that he and I have made amends and he provided me with quality information for which I thanked him because he helped me immensely in the planning of my SEA trip. Somehow that makes him responsible for the garbage that spews from your mouth?
Youare the biggest douchebag in ISG history and your post just goes further to prove my point. Who I am fucking is of no concern to you Elvis. Be them fat, be them glue-sniffers, be them midgets or preggos the fact remains that it is my dick and my money and it has nothing to do with you. And by the way I am happy with who I am fucking. Couldn't be happier. And yes in the past I have fucked some uglies, I have also fucked some solid beauties too. In fact I have a wide range of women I have fucked all ver tgr scale from 1 - 10. Again this doesn't concern you.
You should worry more about your rim jobs than about who Sub or myself is fucking LOL. You're just a hater Elvis. A jealous scumbag who has nothing better to do than to get on a hooker board and start a flame war and then try to blame it on someone' else (Sub) as if you aren't responsable for the shit you type up on your keyboard.
Grow a fucking pair you fucking mark.
If Jackson still had control you would have been banned a long long time ago. Maybe some day you will learn to keep your mouth shut about shit that doesn't concern you, maybe then people here would like you. Matter of fact does anyone here besides MB1 even like you? Villainy doesn't like you, Huacho doesn't like you, I know Sub and I sure the hell don't either, and I know Mr. E doesn't like you. All you have here are enemies because all you do is talk shit and repest your same bullshit. When was the last time you posted a trip report Elvis?
I never said I lived in Aranjuez dumbass. That is where the Exito is located at where I offered to meet you to settle our differences but of course you didn't want to meet because you are a keyboard warrior:
A person who puts aggressive and offensive comments about people on the internet, especially one who hides their own identity. They're just faceless keyboard warriors, targeting people they don't even knowI offered to meet for brunch at Marriott but you said you couldn't afford it. So shut the fuck up. I have zero interest in meeting you anyways. I normally meet like-minded individuals, because we have common interests and experiences to share. I have met 10+ ISG members in the last 3 years and I keep in touch with most of them.
What my posts show is that I am actually out mongering. So you are a rich Arab now? So you are just going to keep writing a bunch of words with no picture of a 9 or a 10 that you have actually fucked. So you learn a few phrases from Duolingo, put on a pair of slacks and a clown nose, and you are in there with all the 9's and 10's. What if you forget to bring the money?
Funny how you have seen pictures of no chicks that anybody else here has fucked (despite me posting hundreds over the years) but somehow you know they are all butt ugly, while posting zero pics of any hooker you have claimed to fuck exclaiming they are god's gift to mongering. Yeah nobody else in here has slacks or can make a chick laugh.I have said it multiple times. I don't post photos of the girls I slept with on a public forum, period. I respect their privacy. And I don't want to get a shit ton of messages from other members asking for contacts. The fact that you posted hundreds of photos speaks volumes about the quality of your girls and also that you don't give a fuck about their privacy. Obviously you post pics without their consent. I have a lot of photos on my phone, but only share them with the people I know in person.
When you tell people you are of modest means that means you are just above the poverty line. You can try to quote your dictionary and whatever else you want but that is what it means. Thank you a lot for this information. I'll send this memo over to Merriam-Webster's who have "average" at the top of both the definition and synonym lists for "modest. " I'll be sure to include a link to your post history here to secure credibility so they can revise this all without any delay.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/modest
Florida statewide average annual income is 64 to 69 K. I earned a bit less than that range, but am in a lower cost of living area. The poverty line in Florida for a one person household is a little over 15 K per year, and the minimum wage is $12 an hour.
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2024/06/06/highest-earning-salaries-state-rankings-florida-wallethub/73981938007/
I may choose to forgo the Laureles rented, fan cooled apartment, the no vehicle, always taxi at night, no driver or girls on retainer, and no personal assistant life you've secured in Medellin with your "great fortune. " But I'll still come down and get laid occasionally. I'll add that your mind reading skills as to the thought processes and intentions of others may have value, and could provide additional income to perhaps attain the great fortune that has alluded you. Explore that, and you can thank me later.
Thanks again.
Paulie.
I have said it multiple times. I don't post photos of the girls I slept with on a public forum, period. I respect their privacy. And I don't want to get a shit ton of messages from other members asking for contacts. The fact that you posted hundreds of photos speaks volumes about the quality of your girls and also that you don't give a fuck about their privacy. Obviously you post pics without their consent. I have a lot of photos on my phone, but only share them with the people I know in person.Fair enough. But how can you judge the photos of other people? How can you compare them when you are not offering to show yours? Do you really believe that the girls you play to sleep with you as the the Professional Trick that you are will not take that same amount of money or more to sleep with another trick?
What this means is you need to just STFU MiamiBoy and stop rolling as the CAP (Colombian Appearance Police). The girls that Gabacho has been with here in Thailand and the pictures he has shown me of girls he has been with in Colombia are not ugly. You are completely off base when it comes to that. You and your clown car driver. You have no standing to comment on the pictures that anyone posts if you are not posting them. I don't post pictures of girls on ISG either. Find a comment in the last 12 years that I have made about a picture someone else has posted.
Now both and your clown car driver can STFU or we can keep this beef going. Ball is in your court!
Triple Darknes
09-09-24, 23:52
I found it on Facebook marketplace in summer 2022.
I then Messaged the perdon who posted the advertisement and then she gave me her WhatsApp number where she showed me more pictures and details of the apartment. It's a 2 bedroom by the way not a shack as some idiots think, although it does have a tin metal roof.
Anyways my rent was originally $500,000 COP a month back in 2022 and the deposit was $150,000. I plugged the address into Google maps and it showed me how to get there taking the metro to Acevedo station and then the metro cable to santo domingo station and then about 15 mins walking thru the barrios.
I showed up with my 650 mil pesos in hand and she had me sign a lease and gave me the keys right then and there after she showed me the place and I liked it.
It's actually somewhat expensive for the area. Other apartments in my barrio go for like 400 mil but with utilities separate. With mine the utilitied are included and paid for by the owner. The electricity is prepaid which means I have a little white box that I have to enter codes into to add KWh to the meter but the owner puts 50 mil on it each month and also it comes with a subsidy of about 100 kWh free per month along with the amount that the 50 mil pesos gets. She also pays the EPM acueducto bill and there is a gas line that I use for my stove. $540 mil all inclusive.
I also added an electric shower head in the bathroom in 2023.
-Gabacho.Thanks for answering.
Triple Darknes
09-09-24, 23:54
I will add to this though that I am fluent in Spanish and I am a Mexican American, so I am Latino. Not sure if a regular English speaking gringo would have the same success as I do living in a Colombian barrio.No doubt, I don't know if I would be comfortable even though I do believe that the crime issue especially in Medellin versus Cali is slightly overblown.
I will add to this though that I am fluent in Spanish and I am a Mexican American, so I am Latino. Not sure if a regular English speaking gringo would have the same success as I do living in a Colombian barrio.
No doubt, I don't know if I would be comfortable even though I do believe that the crime issue especially in Medellin versus Cali is slightly overblown.Not only can my man Gabacho talk the talk; he can walk the walk. Unlike the the mother fuckers riding around in the clown car.
I told you Triple Darknes I had a friend that lives in a Strata 1 in Medellin. Gabacho goes hard in the mother fucking paint! Others, well they are just keyboard warriors talking shit from behind the safety of their computer keyboard. And when I invite them to meet me in person to say what they have to say to me in person. I only get excuses as to why they can't (they are scared) or crickets (complete silence).
No doubt, I don't know if I would be comfortable even though I do believe that the crime issue especially in Medellin versus Cali is slightly overblown.I actually feel much safer in the barrio than I do in Centro. I've never seen a snatch and grab in the barrio can't say the same about centro LOL. Also centro has alot more noise from people cars and busses. The barrio is much quieter except for ocasional dog barking and roosters crowing in the mornings.
Also the climate is noticeably cooler up in santo domingo too. Easily between 5 to 10 degrees cooler than the temperature in Centro. I don't know how many times I'll leave my place and it's chilly so I put on a hoodie and when I get down to Centro I need to take it off. Sometimes at night it can be downright cold to the point where you need an electric space heater or a heavy blanket. Definitely alot cooler than Cali. I've been to Cali twice and both times it felt warmer than what I'm used to in Medellin.
Fair enough. But how can you judge the photos of other people? How can you compare them when you are not offering to show yours? Do you really believe that the girls you play to sleep with you as the the Professional Trick that you are will not take that same amount of money or more to sleep with another trick?
What this means is you need to just STFU MiamiBoy and stop rolling as the CAP (Colombian Appearance Police). The girls that Gabacho has been with here in Thailand and the pictures he has shown me of girls he has been with in Colombia are not ugly. You are completely off base when it comes to that. You and your clown car driver. You have no standing to comment on the pictures that anyone posts if you are not posting them. I don't post pictures of girls on ISG either. Find a comment in the last 12 years that I have made about a picture someone else has posted.
Now both and your clown car driver can STFU or we can keep this beef going. Ball is in your court!I can comment on any post or a photo posted here. If a girl is ugly, I will say that she is ugly. If she is hot, I will congratulate a monger who fucked her, p4 p or not. Simple as that. You don't comment on anyone else's photos? Okay, that's your choice. If one doesn't want to get comments, they should refrain from posting photos. So STFU.
Your friend Gabacho has posted his girls, and also has posted some trip reports (disgusting at times) and it is obvious what the quality of his girls is. The fact that you don't find his girls ugly indicates that your standards are just as low as his. No surprise here, 2 tricks who roll similarly will almost always agree on everything and will rate hoes the same.
Now, show the photos of his girls to someone who is really experienced fucking hot women, and I'm not talking about myself here, because I'm still learning and improving myself, and you will get a fair assessment which both of you wouldn't like to hear.
Let’s tie his balls to the trailer hitch too, so that you have a company.
Lets tie his balls to the trailer hitch too, so that you have a company.And he shows his true colors.
Is this what you do with people you don't like or disagree with??
Tie them to the trailer hitch or your vehicle and drag them on the ground?
Is that what your parents / grandparents did to African Americans back in Mississippi or Alabama or wherever your family is from??
Are you proud of your own bigotry and racist remarks??
You might as well change your name to Lawrence Brewer and your buddy Elvis is Shawn Berry since he is the driver.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd_Jr.?wprov=sfla1
I have said it multiple times. I don't post photos of the girls I slept withWe mostly fuck women and don't waste time sleeping with girls, you short eyed gwal.
Elvis 2008
09-10-24, 18:24
Matter of fact does anyone here besides MB1 even like you? Villainy doesn't like you, Huacho doesn't like you, I know Sub and I sure the hell don't either, and I know Mr. E doesn't like you. All you have here are enemies because all you do is talk shit and repest your same bullshit. When was the last time you posted a trip report Elvis?Gabacho, isn't the story you made up about the customs agent was she did not like me too? I will remind you that she thought I was a sex vacationing monger, saw my gal and her daughter, and completely changed her tune. In other words, she thought I was like all the guys you mentioned and you. That is why you had to make up a lie about it. You could not stand the fact that Colombian customs hates you.
And you post valuable information? If customs knew how you behaved and guys let customs know they were following your lead, they would not get into the country.
Who I am fucking is of no concern to you Elvis.Actually, if you are being an ugly ass American, and you are, I could make the case you are of concern to me and any American who goes to Colombia.
But that is not what bugs me the most. What gets me about the classic Medellin morons the most is their obsession with what others pay. How many times have we heard the line you guys are overpaying and ruining Medellin? Well, maybe the reason prices are up is that guys like you are paying ugly chicks, and the hotter ones are saying, "If that girl charges $20, I am worth at least $60". Again, you are oblivious to the fact that you might be fucking things up for others.
You're just a hater Elvis. A jealous scumbag.Jealous of what exactly?
I do hate the idiotic misogynistic phrase pussy is pussy. Besides, anyone saying that is implying they are fucking ugly women, the concept behind that is if you are spending any money on a woman outside of just for sex, you are a fool and a simp. Isn't that what binds you and the rest of the Medellin morons? That you are so smart and do not let women sucker you out of money and you only spend money on pussy?
That "smart" attitude is looking pretty stupid right now but maybe it is working in Thailand. If so, I wish you the best and you should stay there.
Gabacho, isn't the story you made up about the customs agent was she did not like me too? I will remind you that she thought I was a sex vacationing monger, saw my gal and her daughter, and completely changed her tune. In other words, she thought I was like all the guys you mentioned and you. That is why you had to make up a lie about it. You could not stand the fact that Colombian customs hates you.
And you post valuable information? If customs knew how you behaved and guys let customs know they were following your lead, they would not get into the country.
Actually, if you are being an ugly ass American, and you are, I could make the case you are of concern to me and any American who goes to Colombia.
But that is not what bugs me the most. What gets me about the classic Medellin morons the most is their obsession with what others pay. How many times have we heard the line you guys are overpaying and ruining Medellin? Well, maybe the reason prices are up is that guys like you are paying ugly chicks, and the hotter ones are saying, "If that girl charges $20, I am worth at least $60". Again, you are oblivious to the fact that you might be fucking things up for others.
Jealous of what exactly?
I do hate the idiotic misogynistic phrase pussy is pussy. Besides, anyone saying that is implying they are fucking ugly women, the concept behind that is if you are spending any money on a woman outside of just for sex, you are a fool and a simp. Isn't that what binds you and the rest of the Medellin morons? That you are so smart and do not let women sucker you out of money and you only spend money on pussy?
That "smart" attitude is looking pretty stupid right now but maybe it is working in Thailand. If so, I wish you the best and you should stay there.What I deducted (or is deduced) from your Migracion Colombia (What you incorrectly refer to as customs) story, is that you went to the line that said Ciudadanos instead of extranjeros. I believe you said that in your own post. You then went on to mention that the agent was giving you a hard time after looking through your passport. This has never happened to me in all my trips to Colombia since 2018. So I assumed that she was simply mad at you because you were trying to cut the line by not going to the extranjero side and waiting for an agent. If that assumption was wrong I apologize. Months after that I saw that others also had hard times going thru migracion Colombia at MDE airport and I changed my opinion on the matter. This was reinforced by a video interview DC Rob did with a guy who was detained and deported from MDE airport, although I think he left out information in his interview with DC Rob, I see your point that the Colombian government is currently hostile towards some Americans, particularly those whom it thinks are mongers.
Hopefully things go back to normal after the current administrations change. Petro is too far left and is very unpopular among his own constituents. Fico while a popular mayor is too far right and his presidential aspirations are only that aspirations. History has shown us time and time again that extremist from either side of the spectrum don't last very long.
Anyways, compared to the racist comments from Miamiboy I find your comments to be not so offensive. I am actually enjoying Thailand and having a great time here. It's a pretty nice country and seems more developed than Colombia and some things are actually a better value here and the food is much better too.
When I met up with Sub we went to soi buakhao and we're drinking until midnight and it started raining and we kept drinking until the streets literally flooded. He is a real person and not just an internet personality and I'm actually glad that we put aside the bullshit and decided to meet up over drinks.
Anyways I'm willing to squash the beef.
And I apologize for the rim job comments.
-Gabacho Out.
Triple Darknes
09-10-24, 22:41
I actually feel much safer in the barrio than I do in Centro. I've never seen a snatch and grab in the barrio can't say the same about centro LOL. Also centro has alot more noise from people cars and busses. The barrio is much quieter except for ocasional dog barking and roosters crowing in the mornings.
Also the climate is noticeably cooler up in santo domingo too. Easily between 5 to 10 degrees cooler than the temperature in Centro. I don't know how many times I'll leave my place and it's chilly so I put on a hoodie and when I get down to Centro I need to take it off. Sometimes at night it can be downright cold to the point where you need an electric space heater or a heavy blanket. Definitely alot cooler than Cali. I've been to Cali twice and both times it felt warmer than what I'm used to in Medellin.I'd say that generally Cali is about 10 to 12 degrees hotter than Centro in Medellin.
I've been to Bogota and after years in Cali it was cold enough to require a jacket and a thick blanket at night /.
Humidity tends to be lower in Cali * because it's still rather hilly* than say Cartegena or Santo Domingo in the DR.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
It appears that a lot of ISG members do not know the difference between Immigration and Customs or at least they use the word Customs to refer to Immigration. I am going to correct this.
Immigration (Migracion):
These are the people who decide whether or not you can enter the country. These are the agents you have to show your passport to upon arrival and they ask you some basic questions about your travel and then stamp your passport allowing entry for 90 days. They also handle the checkmig forms and other types of visas for people entering on a visa for an extended stay.
Customs (Aduanas):
This is a separate entity from immigration. They are the people who (after you have been permitted to enter the country by immigration) check your luggage and backpack for prohibited items. Their main concern is to look for and confiscate things such as raw meat and produce. You may have accidentally had a bad of lemmons taken away from you at the x-ray machine that you forgot you had in your backpack. Those guys are customs (in Spanish they are called aduanas).
They are two separate entities and customs never stamps your passport. I think the confusion may come from the fact that in the US the two are combined into one agency called Customs and Border Protection (CBP). But in most countries, and Colombia and Mexico are no exception, immigration and customs are two separate government agencies with separate stations set up within the port of entry.
I really want to go medellin because I like to go party, club and take girl at the end.
But When I read this thread, I feel the girl in medellin cost more than girl in europe x).
In europe, you can have girl for 50 euros in Germany, and in medellin is 100 euros?
A bit strange.A valuable observation from an outsider. The real Medellin Morons (to borrow the phrase from the high and almighty Elvis) are those guys paying 400 k 500 k 600 k pesos and higher in places like parque lleras, loutron, gustos, etc.
The real actual cost of these women in Medellin is about $150 k - 200 k pesos. You can ask guys like Nounce, Mr. Enternational, Villainy and myself whom have years of extensive experience in Medellin and in Colombia as a whole.
I can guarantee that no local colombianos are paying more than what it costs in Germany for a local paisa chica. They pay about 150 k COP ($35 usd) max.
Only the Medellin morons pay theses 600 k prices.
A valuable observation from an outsider. The real Medellin Morons (to borrow the phrase from the high and almighty Elvis) are those guys paying 400 k 500 k 600 k pesos and higher in places like parque lleras, loutron, gustos, etc.
The real actual cost of these women in Medellin is about $150 k - 200 k pesos. You can ask guys like Nounce, Mr. Enternational, Villainy and myself whom have years of extensive experience in Medellin and in Colombia as a whole.
I can guarantee that no local colombianos are paying more than what it costs in Germany for a local paisa chica. They pay about 150 k COP ($35 usd) max.
Only the Medellin morons pay theses 600 k prices.I have to confirm what Gabacho is saying. It may depend a little bit on where you are pulling the girl. FaceBook rates are about 200-300 mil depending on the girl and what she perceives as her normal price point. If you speak Spanish you can improve your chances. But as Gabacho says no one is paying 500-600 mil, at least not anyone who lives here.
A valuable observation from an outsider. The real Medellin Morons (to borrow the phrase from the high and almighty Elvis) are those guys paying 400 k 500 k 600 k pesos and higher in places like parque lleras, loutron, gustos, etc.
The real actual cost of these women in Medellin is about $150 k - 200 k pesos. You can ask guys like Nounce, Mr. Enternational, Villainy and myself whom have years of extensive experience in Medellin and in Colombia as a whole.
I can guarantee that no local colombianos are paying more than what it costs in Germany for a local paisa chica. They pay about 150 k COP ($35 usd) max.
Only the Medellin morons pay theses 600 k prices.I can guarantee that 150 k-200 k girls are not in the same bracket looks wise as 400 k-600 k girls. Just accept the fucking fact that there are different levels of beauty at different price tags. Your local Colombians pay less just because they fuck uglies, not because they are locals or great negotiators.
I can guarantee that 150 k-200 k girls are not in the same bracket looks wise as 400 k-600 k girls. Just accept the fucking fact that there are different levels of beauty at different price tags. Your local Colombians pay less just because they fuck uglies, not because they are locals or great negotiators. So are you suggesting that these $600 k COP chicas do not fuck any local men at all and are exclusively fucking foreigners?
The justifications and explanations for what we pay are endless and in some cases very creative. There is always a subjective element. For a random example, for some the right to eat a girl's ass is worth any price requested while for other's it's worth less than nothing because they would not do it if paid. Some guys value facial appearance above all and permission to photograph themselves with the woman. I've witnessed this first hand when a guy in Sao Paulo showed me a picture of himself with an agency girl. He told me he paid double the asking price so she would allow the photo. Just because it's something some would not do does not make it wrong for anyone else.
It's different from dynamic pricing. Mainly it's people who are paying peak-price all the time. After you pay peak-price to the same girl a few times (I skip this step because I don't have the urgency), if you are patient. wait for the girl to contact you. For example, on a Tuesday, just let her know you can't pay Saturday tourist rate. Ask her how much she made on Monday or tonight when she argues. One should get an idea of where I am going. My experience also told me that the girls who accpeted are better performers and just think about it that you are paying less for better performance. Not all girls will agree but some will. There are some girls that can make a lot of money in a night but my observation is most can't. And that has nothing to do with what I think is attractive or not. I do not want to session with girls what can maintain high price from Lleras because that implies her mileage is high and service will be limited, supply and demand, right? LOL.
If one thinks the price indicate quality, i posted report that I have FB girl charging 450 coming on my term. and the recent report the Lleras 150 USD girl. They are higher price so they must be better looking too. Again, not all will do it but some will. You just need to learn how to get to those that are smart enough to adjust.
Nice guy usually won't get the best in this context. They think they get it but they don't know and have not tested the upper limit. For example, the reports that say Loutron is great. It may be great for someone, that is because he doesn't know how much better he can have. You can be nice but you have to be strict. Girls are constantly testing your boundary. In a way, this is where the respect is coming from and one reason why guys say girls are laughing at some guys who pay a lot because the guys give away power.
I can guarantee that 150 k-200 k girls are not in the same bracket looks wise as 400 k-600 k girls. Just accept the fucking fact that there are different levels of beauty at different price tags. Your local Colombians pay less just because they fuck uglies, not because they are locals or great negotiators.The fact of the matter is that the intrinsic value of these women is around $150 k COP and you are paying them an overvalued price. Whereas guys like Nounce, Villainy, Mr. Enternational and myself are purchasing closer to the equalibrium point or perhaps even undervalued. I'm sure this is over your head though. Continue paying $600 k and above. After all the Bidenflation and your homegirl comrade kamala wins the election you will be so much better off and be able to pay your colombianas $1. 2 Million COP.
I can guarantee that 150 k-200 k girls are not in the same bracket looks wise as 400 k-600 k girls. Just accept the fucking fact that there are different levels of beauty at different price tags. Your local Colombians pay less just because they fuck uglies, not because they are locals or great negotiators.You simply don't know what you are talking about. Where do you think these 400 k-600 k girls that you deem to be beautiful come from? You think they just got plucked from a tree? The reason you are misguided is because you are a visitor to Medellin. You seek out girls you deem to be beautiful even at high price points. Great! But where are you finding these girls? Seeking, Instagram, FaceBook maybe some higher end night spots like Loutron. So now let's put on our thinking cap (you do have a thinking cap?) The girls you are paying those rates meet your standard of beauty but you are finding them because they are marketing themselves to foreigners like you. They post on Instagram and Seeking or are listed with foreign friendly agencies so that you and people like you can find them. You may not believe this but some of those girls know nothing about social media. Their brother or aunt is posting their pictures and arranging their dates with foreigners like you. (Not all, of course, but more than you would think).
You seem to think these are unique special girls. Gabacho is telling you something you don't want to hear. Many of those girls grew up and live in the barrios. They learned to dress themselves, and market themselves. For every one of those there are 100 that don't do that. It doesn't mean they can be attained but you would have to do the work to get there. You would have to meet them near where they live. You would have to be able to initiate and conduct a conversation and perhaps arrange a meeting at a restaurant or coffee shop. At some point you might get an opportunity. Some girls grow up in religious households. Selling herself is considered the lowest thing a girl / woman can do. Hence she doesn't advertise herself and to you she is invisible. But if you establish a friendship, you can have a sexual relationship (beneficios mutuos) that is relatively cheap and the girl can easily be as beautiful as any you've met. Of course the drawback is that she may be less experienced.
Going back to the central point. You do you. But when you claim that you and only you are meeting the most beautiful women because you are willing to pay more.[Deleted by Admin] I live here. I have an ample budget and I've been with some of the highest end girls that you talk about. But I've also been with girls from the barrios or pueblos that are stunning girls but they don't promote themselves and so you never would meet them.
The fact of the matter is that the intrinsic value of these women is around $150 k COP and you are paying them an overvalued price. Whereas guys like Nounce, Villainy, Mr. Enternational and myself are purchasing closer to the equalibrium point or perhaps even undervalued. I'm sure this is over your head though. Continue paying $600 k and above. After all the Bidenflation and your homegirl comrade kamala wins the election you will be so much better off and be able to pay your colombianas $1. 2 Million COP.I'm not overpaying. I'm paying market rate, or close to it. And almost always, I get what I pay for, at least looks wise. Sure, performance may vary, but it is a different story. Any girl that gets 600 k consistently, won't accept 150 k, period. Good luck negotiating with her. She just going to laugh at your offer and consider you a cheap charlie. I have said it gazillion times, we fuck different girls, not the same girls. If you really could get the girls I'm paying 600 k to for 150 k, I would eat my hat and apologize, and I would publicly admit that you are the best negotiator on ISG. But this is never going to happen, because again, we fuck different girls that happen to be in different price brackets.
So are you suggesting that these $600 k COP chicas do not fuck any local men at all and are exclusively fucking foreigners?Yes, they focus mainly on foreigners, or locals who are well off. It makes no sense to fuck broke locals for cheap. Sure, some girls may have a local boyfriend or fuck buddy, who fucks them for free, but I bet these guys are more or less of their age and are attractive enough, not some overweight local brokie in his 50's.
I'm not overpaying. I'm paying market rate, or close to it. And almost always, I get what I pay for, at least looks wise. Sure, performance may vary, but it is a different story. Any girl that gets 600 k consistently, won't accept 150 k, period. Good luck negotiating with her. She just going to laugh at your offer and consider you a cheap charlie. I have said it gazillion times, we fuck different girls, not the same girls. If you really could get the girls I'm paying 600 k to for 150 k, I would eat my hat and apologize, and I would publicly admit that you are the best negotiator on ISG. But this is never going to happen, because again, we fuck different girls that happen to be in different price brackets.I agree with this. There are guys who believe that the girls are all the same and they will all accept a certain rate if you are savvy and a great negotiator but I don't believe this to be generally true based on my own personal experiences. I think everyone will agree with this statement. Each girl is unique and they are not all the same and will not act the same. Every girl has a different belief on your worth and how much she should get paid to go with you. Girls who believe that they are worth 600 k and get that price constantly will generally not accept 150 k or 200 k. I have personally experienced that time and time again. Now if she has not gotten that price for a while and needs to pay the rent, she may reconsider what she can get and drop her price but that's not a girl who constantly gets that price. It may just be that she has dropped in value and she is no longer the type of girl who demands that price. It happens and a girl needs to adjust to her new reality.
Girls who hang out in El Centro for 50 mil are generally not the type of girls who can command top dollar in Parque Lleras. Now she may get lucky from time to time but it's not happening every night.
The justifications and explanations for what we pay are endless and in some cases very creative. ....It's sharing the opportunities that I saw for someone who may come across similar situation and be able to take advantage of it. Whoever read it, should read others' posts to see different opportunities and take advantage of those observations.
If one follows my latest Lleras post, I gave in and offered 400, but she started to limit service. I said I am not interested. Eventually the price dropped to 200 mil and basically without limit as far as I am concerned. One reason is because I have a strong hand so I called her bluff by accident in a manner of speaking. I did not realize that until the end. How can one explain a service that goes from all covered for 150 USD to 200 mil without restriction. That is why I am saying you can be nice but you have to be strict. That is the language they can understand clearly.
I am someone that the girls can easily take advantage of. I have not changed my approach but I adjusted it based on my personality. There is a girl who stole from me twice. LOL. I got thru her eventually, and I was able to use that to help me get what I want. I would not suggest anyone to do it because you may not have the same personality shortcomings in this context, and you will have your own way to deal with this better.
As for all the price debate going on. The car analogy actually is a good one but the explanation was wrong. The explanation should be based on economic or circumstances but people just don't know how.
It's sharing the opportunities that I saw for someone who may come across similar situation and be able to take advantage of it. Whoever read it, should read others' posts to see different opportunities and take advantage of those observations.
If one follows my latest Lleras post, I gave in and offered 400, but she started to limit service. I said I am not interested. Eventually the price dropped to 200 mil and basically without limit as far as I am concerned. One reason is because I have a strong hand so I called her bluff by accident in a manner of speaking. I did not realize that until the end. How can one explain a service that goes from all covered for 150 USD to 200 mil without restriction. That is why I am saying you can be nice but you have to be strict. That is the language they can understand clearly.
I am someone that the girls can easily take advantage of. I have not changed my approach but I adjusted it based on my personality. There is a girl who stole from me twice. LOL. I got thru her eventually, and I was able to use that to help me get what I want. I would not suggest anyone to do it because you may not have the same personality shortcomings in this context, and you will have your own way to deal with this better.
As for all the price debate going on. The car analogy actually is a good one but the explanation was wrong. The explanation should be based on economic or circumstances but people just don't know how.Street hookers are literally the bottom of the barrel. Her initial ask was a joke. Over 600 k cop for a lleras girl and all covered service? Come on. You got your price only because you knew her asking rate was unrealistic to begin with. If the going rate at Lleras was indeed around 600 k, you would have zero chance of getting her for 200 mil.
Street hookers are literally the bottom of the barrel. Her initial ask was a joke. Over 600 k cop for a lleras girl and all covered service? Come on. You got your price only because you knew her asking rate was unrealistic to begin with. If the going rate at Lleras was indeed around 600 k, you would have zero chance of getting her for 200 mil.You are missing the points entirely.
Elvis 2008
09-14-24, 17:15
A valuable observation from an outsider. The real Medellin Morons (to borrow the phrase from the high and almighty Elvis) are those guys paying 400 k 500 k 600 k pesos and higher in places like parque lleras, loutron, gustos, etc.I am going to translate things to dollars so everyone can see what a paltry amount of money we are talking about. Yes, you can get laid in the FKKs for $55 or so. In Colombia, you have a much wider variety. There are clubs you can get laid in for as little as $10 or $15. The highest end places will charge you up to $150.
What the Medellin morons are saying is that they often see the same women in the cheaper and more expensive clubs. What bugs me is how do you know what is at the more expensive places unless you are going? And when you are going, you are telling me you do not partake? Please.
Guys typically go to the higher end clubs to save time. It is usually going to take a lot longer to find an attractive woman in a lower end club than a higher end one.
Thing is the Colombian government is cracking down on guys coming in and banging dozens of women on the cheap. Right now, it is just lip service in Cartagena and Bogota but Medellin, maybe because it has been overrun by foreigners, is legitimately cracking down.
And I do not know if you live in Europe but if you do, the amount you are going to save on women in Colombia versus the FKKs is probably going to be swallowed up on air and hotel costs.
As far as why I kept returning to Colombia, this is the reason.
I have two stunningly beautiful girls here in Manizales on monthly "allowance" for one million a month and they have to see me a minimum of three times a month for at least three hours and they are more than grateful and treat me like a king, we go out dancing and partying or they cook for me at my place and we put on music and have a good time eventually leading to the bedroom. For me it's not just about sex, I prefer a true GFE experience.I suspect Manizales is putting in the minimum three hours and three times a month to satisfy the monger crowd because I never had to specify a minimum time period with a Colombian woman who liked me. My guess is he does not have to either.
Thing is when you have an 8 to 10 type who is great in bed and is with you because she wants to be versus for money, the amount you are giving her feels more like a gift than an obligation. I think one of the things guys do not get is that even "legitimate" relationships are men looking for sex and women going for money.
To me, this is the big reason to come to Colombia: to find an 8 to 10 type, who is amazing in bed, loves spending time with you, and sucks your dick because she wants to and not for $. If you want to do the financial calculus on this, $1000 buys you this kind of woman for one hour in New York City versus months in Colombia.
Thing that is so annoying is hearing the Medellin morons comparing their $10 purchases to yours These guys think other guys do not you can get laid for $10. Well, yes, I do happen to know what I can get for $10. If you think bargaining women down from $20 to $10 or $15 makes you some kind of stud, have at it. If you want to compare what you are fucking to what I am, well you can go fuck yourself.
I am not sure of your situation, but the way I could justify travelling to Colombia is if I could get this kind of 8-10 mistress in Colombia for $250 to $500 a month versus what $3000 in Europe? The other reason to come is just the novelty of seeing it. In the USA, we do not have that $55 or 50 Euro option you do, and that is part of the reason Colombia is so popular.
I have said it gazillion times, we fuck different girls, not the same girls.In you mind, are you. 1. paying hooker for sex, 2, paying non-hooker for sex. Which is your answer 1 or 2? They both can exist in my book or at least I think I can understand the concept.
There are three girls with the same score, they all tell you the same questionable story that you can't verify. The only thing that is 100% is the following:
Girl A does not have passport, cost 200 . Girl B has a passport but she was denied US Visa, cost 400, Girl C has a passport and has a valid US Visa and has been to US, cost 600.
Same question as above except they all cost the same
Which girl would you choose?
I am not trying to trick you. It helps to focus discussion. I provided you this example to show my card, the girl that stayed for 5 hours with me last night has been to US with a US Visa. Our sex has no limit which means she won't say no to anything I asked. When I becomes soft, it does not mean stop. When we have intercourse, it does not mean leche. What many of us focus on is the outcome. Your focus or your priority is the other way around. You don't have to show photos, but you can share the service you got so we can learn from each other and some may go your route if there is something interesting.
A comment about service quality and Elvis. I think he is getting the best like he said but he is only able to get one to do it and he is not able to describe it well enough so others can understand it which maybe a little frustrating. I will just say I want to get what Elvis has if it is as good as I have imagined. hehe.
This endless debate about getting expensive girls cheaper if you are smart has been debated for years with no resolution and it will never be resolved. Is there any point to it? I don't think so but I guess it is entertaining in some way.
Now I am in Medellin and I can tell you that I don't spend very much time worrying about whether the next guy is paying less than me for the exact same girl. I can have a good time and other guys can have a good time and what he's paying and who he's seeing is really irrelevant to me.
Now I mentioned this before, that I've met a number of ISG members on this trip and we never debate about prices we paid or who is seeing better girls. We just see the girls we want for the prices we want to pay and we're having a good time.
We did share pictures of the girls that we have seen and I can see that we all have different taste and every guy is seeing the girl that he wants to see. I prefer to see the girls that I see and they prefer to see the girls that they see. I think it's good that everyone has different taste so we are not all chasing the same girls.
I can also see that everybody has different opinion of what a 10 is and that's also a good thing.
In you mind, are you. 1. paying hooker for sex, 2, paying non-hooker for sex. Which is your answer 1 or 2? They both can exist in my book or at least I think I can understand the concept.
There are three girls with the same score, they all tell you the same questionable story that you can't verify. The only thing that is 100% is the following:
Girl A does not have passport, cost 200 . Girl B has a passport but she was denied US Visa, cost 400, Girl C has a passport and has a valid US Visa and has been to US, cost 600.
Same question as above except they all cost the same
Which girl would you choose?
I am not trying to trick you. It helps to focus discussion. I provided you this example to show my card, the girl that stayed for 5 hours with me last night has been to US with a US Visa. Our sex has no limit which means she won't say no to anything I asked. When I becomes soft, it does not mean stop. When we have intercourse, it does not mean leche. What many of us focus on is the outcome. Your focus or your priority is the other way around. You don't have to show photos, but you can share the service you got so we can learn from each other and some may go your route if there is something interesting.
About Elvis. I think he is getting the best like he said but he is only able to get one to do it and he is not able to describe it well enough so others can understand it which maybe a little frustrating. I will just say I want to get what Elvis have if it is as good as I have imagined. hehe.What does her passport or US visa have to do with anything that I said? I don't care if she has one, unless I'm planning on traveling abroad with her or bringing her to the States. (the latter is not happening). Therefore, I place no value on her having a passport or US visa and I'm certainly not paying premium if she has one. Its like saying, girl A has a cat, girl be loves noodles, and girl see plays piano, and they charge 200,400 and 600 respectively, which one would you choose? The more I read your posts, the more confusing it gets. And you always ask some weird questions. You got to learn how to get your message across effectively.
Share the service I got? What do you mean? My goal is to get GFE all around. I think we all know what GFE is, no need to go into details. More often that not I do get GFE, but I got to say that it was much easier to get GFE a few years ago than nowadays.
Mr Enternational
09-14-24, 20:16
My goal is to get GFE all around. I think we all know what GFE is, no need to go into details. More often that not I do get GFE, but I got to say that it was much easier to get GFE a few years ago than nowadays.Actually we all don't. Reading this board, you can see that just like beauty, GFE means different things for different people. For some people GFE is if the girl will allow him to kiss her. For others it is if the girl will have a meal together. For others it is if the girl will stay the night.
You simply don't know what you are talking about. Where do you think these 400 k-600 k girls that you deem to be beautiful come from? You think they just got plucked from a tree? The reason you are misguided is because you are a visitor to Medellin. You seek out girls you deem to be beautiful even at high price points. Great! But where are you finding these girls? Seeking, Instagram, FaceBook maybe some higher end night spots like Loutron. So now let's put on our thinking cap (you do have a thinking cap?) The girls you are paying those rates meet your standard of beauty but you are finding them because they are marketing themselves to foreigners like you. They post on Instagram and Seeking or are listed with foreign friendly agencies so that you and people like you can find them. You may not believe this but some of those girls know nothing about social media. Their brother or aunt is posting their pictures and arranging their dates with foreigners like you. (Not all, of course, but more than you would think).
You seem to think these are unique special girls. Gabacho is telling you something you don't want to hear. Many of those girls grew up and live in the barrios. They learned to dress themselves, and market themselves. For every one of those there are 100 that don't do that. It doesn't mean they can be attained but you would have to do the work to get there. You would have to meet them near where they live. You would have to be able to initiate and conduct a conversation and perhaps arrange a meeting at a restaurant or coffee shop. At some point you might get an opportunity. Some girls grow up in religious households. Selling herself is considered the lowest thing a girl / woman can do. Hence she doesn't advertise herself and to you she is invisible. But if you establish a friendship, you can have a sexual relationship (beneficios mutuos) that is relatively cheap and the girl can easily be as beautiful as any you've met. Of course the drawback is that she may be less experienced.
Going back to the central point. You do you. But when you claim that you and only you are meeting the most beautiful women because you are willing to pay more. I live here. I have an ample budget and I've been with some of the highest end girls that you talk about. But I've also been with girls from the barrios or pueblos that are stunning girls but they don't promote themselves and so you never would meet them.Let's assume for a second that everything you said is true and there is indeed a competitive advantage that allows someone living there full time to find them gems and pay them very little. Don't you think that it is not fair to compete with short term visitors / tourists who don't have all the time in the world to find diamonds in the rough you were talking about and then nurture those contacts? It's like running a marathon and competing against a person in a wheelchair. The vast majority of members here are tourists / visitors. Gabacho and his team members attack them aggressively, call them fools for overpaying, etc. Do you think they have the right to do so? I yet have to see at least one hot girl that can be had for 150 k. All I have seen so far is a bunch of uglies or average (at best) looking chicks. Also, I disagree with your 1 to 100 ratio. Those barrio girls don't live in isolation, they all have social media accounts and they all know how to use them. Any hot girl quickly learns how to market and promote herself if selling pussy is what she wants to do. And I never claimed to be the only person meeting the hottest chicks because I'm paying them more. I have a bunch of friends who roll similarly, pay the same rates +/- for the same quality and the majority of them are happy with what they get.
Actually we all don't. Reading this board, you can see that just like beauty, GFE means different things for different people. For some people GFE is if the girl will allow him to kiss her. For others it is if the girl will have a meal together. For others it is if the girl will stay the night.Mr. Enternational, the post I quoted that you wrote is a drop the bat and watch walk off home run. It is a 95 yard kick off return for a touchdown. It is a flip upside down Pele style kick for a goal. Yeah, brother it was that good!.
Some simply will not accept that we are all individuals and we all have our individual preferences. Just because someone is willing to call me cheap and say I go with ugly prostitutes does not make a true. The same words have been used against me in the Thailand threads.
What is up with the individuals who claim they are better than others because they pay more for their prostitutes. Why do they have so much of their ego tied up into the amount they pay for their prostitutes. I am a friend of Gabacho I have see pictures of the girls he has gone with in Pattaya, Thailand and Medellin Colombia. They are NOT ugly!. And no mount of shouting from the tree tops is going to make them so just because he is not paying astronomical figures for the prostitutes he hires. Add to this that the individuals making these claims have never see pictures of the prostitutes I hire ever!
It bruises the egos of some to know they cannot do what others do. I do not know why the cannot be happy with what they can do and what they get. Personally I do not care what a man does with is hard earned money or who they fucked.
But when individuals say that something cannot be done they are only revealing their own inadequacies. Furthermore they are making a serious man accusation that someone is lying on their dick. Dem fighting words where I come from. But luckily this is the internet and we are all just keyboard warriors here. I'll leave you with the words of PitBull.
For those who didn't believe in the kid; y'all might as well be dead; Because what y'all thought couldn't be done, I did! - Dammit Man, PitBull.
Let's assume for a second that everything you said is true and there is indeed a competitive advantage that allows someone living there full time to find them gems and pay them very little. Don't you think that it is not fair to compete with short term visitors / tourists who don't have all the time in the world to find diamonds in the rough you were talking about and then nurture those contacts? It's like running a marathon and competing against a person in a wheelchair. The vast majority of members here are tourists / visitors. Gabacho and his team members attack them aggressively, call them fools for overpaying, etc. Do you think they have the right to do so? I yet have to see at least one hot girl that can be had for 150 k. All I have seen so far is a bunch of uglies or average (at best) looking chicks. Also, I disagree with your 1 to 100 ratio. Those barrio girls don't live in isolation, they all have social media accounts and they all know how to use them. Any hot girl quickly learns how to market and promote herself if selling pussy is what she wants to do. And I never claimed to be the only person meeting the hottest chicks because I'm paying them more. I have a bunch of friends who roll similarly, pay the same rates +/- for the same quality and the majority of them are happy with what they get.I have seen few casa girls, where they go for 130 for an hour at least in new life, in PL very often and they are demanding 300-400 mil. Same girls I see them on facebook, tinder etc. I think they have set price for each place.
Gabacho and his team members attack them aggressively, call them fools for overpaying, etc. Do you think they have the right to do so?I don't think Gabacho or "his team members" are attacking you for overpaying. It is your money you can do what you want with it. But when you claim that you are bedding the most beautiful women and everyone else is picking up the street walkers and hand-me-downs, well after laughing at the ignorance of it, they probably had a few terse words for you.
I yet have to see at least one hot girl that can be had for 150 k. All I have seen so far is a bunch of uglies or average (at best) looking chicks.And why is that? You like to believe it is because your standards are higher than everyone elses. But you fail to grasp the reasons. You are a visitor here. You don't have time to visit the barrios and various pueblos to see what life is like there. You don't have time to see all the sights, and sample all the bounty that is Colombia. If you lived here and had the time you would meet women who would topple whatever standards you think you have. You might need to speak the language to really make your explorations enjoyable.
And contrary to some of your other misconceptions, Latin American girls are not the same as American girls. They don't only go on dates with men that are in their 20's or 30's. Sure an obese pig of an American in his 60's probably doesn't get dates unless there is a payment involved. But 50's or 60's in good shape, speaks the language, has world experience and you could have a date every night of the week. It is a different culture than you are used to. I think that is the concept that Gabacho is trying to explain to you.
Again, no one cares that you have your own methodology and you enjoy it. Good for you.
Also, I disagree with your 1 to 100 ratio. Those barrio girls don't live in isolation, they all have social media accounts and they all know how to use them. Any hot girl quickly learns how to market and promote herself if selling pussy is what she wants to do.And your opinion is based on what? ..all the time you have spent in the barrios and pueblos outside of Poblado? Again one of your biggest problems is that you equate the customs and habits of Colombian girls with those of American girls. Their worlds are as different as the language they speak.
Gabacho and his team members attack them aggressively, call them fools for overpaying, etc.You have not seen every girl that Gabacho has been with. In Colombia or Thailand. Yet you made the following statement:
Your friend Gabacho has posted his girls, and also has posted some trip reports (disgusting at times) and it is obvious what the quality of his girls is. The fact that you don't find his girls ugly indicates that your standards are just as low as his. No surprise here, 2 tricks who roll similarly will almost always agree on everything and will rate hoes the same.Here is the fact, you don't post pictures of your girls. So as far as I am concerned: You are lying on your dick. Why? Because I have not seen a single post other than from you that make the claims that you make.
And I never claimed to be the only person meeting the hottest chicks because I'm paying them more.No, your clown car driver Elvis makes the same claim.
Now can both of you stop talking out the side of your neck about things you cannot prove. It is your opinions. I think that you are PABMF. But that is my opinion. I feel sorry for International Tricks such as yourself that tie your ego and self worth up in the attractiveness of the prostitutes your hire.
Below is the post from a man I never met. But I am telling you that each and every time he posted about a venue in the Dominican Republic I followed up on it. And his report was spot on. Read his words MiamiBoy Learn something!
The justifications and explanations for what we pay are endless and in some cases very creative. There is always a subjective element. For a random example, for some the right to eat a girl's ass is worth any price requested while for other's it's worth less than nothing because they would not do it if paid. Some guys value facial appearance above all and permission to photograph themselves with the woman. I've witnessed this first hand when a guy in Sao Paulo showed me a picture of himself with an agency girl. He told me he paid double the asking price so she would allow the photo. Just because it's something some would not do does not make it wrong for anyone else.
What does her passport or US visa have to do with anything that I said? I don't care if she has one, unless I'm planning on traveling abroad with her or bringing her to the States. (the latter is not happening). Therefore, I place no value on her having a passport or US visa and I'm certainly not paying premium if she has one. Its like saying, girl A has a cat, girl be loves noodles, and girl see plays piano, and they charge 200,400 and 600 respectively, which one would you choose? The more I read your posts, the more confusing it gets. And you always ask some weird questions. You got to learn how to get your message across effectively.Exactly, the question is based on your postings. Didn't you post that you verify their school, work and background info by photos rigidly? I got the impression that you want to date girls that have higher social status. US visa is difficult for young Colombian females to get in general. A girl won't be able to get a visa without a strong financial background which implies higher social class. I think I am wrong on this one. If so, why do you dislike the Lleras SGs?
Share the service I got? What do you mean? My goal is to get GFE all around. I think we all know what GFE is, no need to go into details. More often that not I do get GFE, but I got to say that it was much easier to get GFE a few years ago than nowadays.There is a spectrum of preference. At one end are the men that prefer casas, like different girls, pure physical sex, on the other end is men like Elvis who gets a real GF, and Elvis has told us he is getting it better which I think is true if one's preference matches his. Have you figure out where you are at in this spectrum? Because Colomianas will ration GFE, they will commit the minimum to fulfil the agreement, most are saving them up so they don't go all out. If that is your case, then what you receive is not better than someone who paid less.
That the girl said to me that night.
No me cambies por otra mujer porque soy tu novia.
Tu eres mi novio, yo soy tu novia.
Ya sabes, no ms novia para ti, yo soy tu novia.
Tu eres mi novio
Exactly, the question is based on your postings. Didn't you post that you verify their school, work and background info by photos rigidly? I got the impression that you want to date girls that have higher social status. US visa is difficult for young Colombian females to get in general. A girl won't be able to get a visa without a strong financial background which implies higher social class. I think I am wrong on this one. If so, why do you dislike the Lleras SGs?
There is a spectrum of preference. At one end are the men that prefer casas, like different girls, pure physical sex, on the other end is men like Elvis who gets a real GF, and Elvis has told us he is getting it better which I think is true if one's preference matches his. Have you figure out where you are at in this spectrum? Because Colomianas will ration GFE, they will commit the minimum to fulfil the agreement, most are saving them up so they don't go all out. If that is your case, then what you receive is not better than someone who paid less.
That the girl said to me that night.I don't do street girls, be it Lleras or El Centro or any other place or city in the world, because SW are the bottom of the barrel. I don't want to deal with crackheads, high volume, hardened pros. Plus, the risk of catching STD or getting robbed is much higher when dealing with street girls. Casas are safer, but the service is basically the same, all covered wham bam thank you ma'am type. This is why I don't do casas either. I prefer GFE, and my understanding of GFE service is all the things I normally would do when on a date with a real girlfriend. Mr E is playing stupid saying he doesn't know what GFE is. Maybe this is because he never had a real girlfriend jaja. Hard to find GFE when you pay street hookers 10-20 bucks.
Those barrio girls don't live in isolation, they all have social media accounts and they all know how to use them. Any hot girl quickly learns how to market and promote herself if selling pussy is what she wants to do. And I never claimed to be the only person meeting the hottest chicks because I'm paying them more. I have a bunch of friends who roll similarly, pay the same rates +/- for the same quality and the majority of them are happy with what they get.That is a misconception. There are other factors. They are young, and uneducated. Their mind is not as mature as yours. Some girls are lazy or not really liking this work so they work the bare minimum. A Lleras girl that I wrote about, she had 6 dates over the 3 months period. I asked how often did she work, she said should go more but she didn't so she did not have money. This one fucked like a Brazillian so I was pretty surprised that she did not at least get repeat.
The 150 USD girl has a Facebook account, but it is set to maximal privacy so nothing is shown and it also does not appear in search result.
I wrote about there are beautiful paisas that simply don't know how things work. Many of these will provide better GFE. I don't find them myself but there are friends who find them. They are mostly under the radar and I don't even want to be connected to them on social media so they are found easier. They will be found latter but not yet.
my understanding of GFE service is all the things I normally would do when on a date with a real girlfriend. Mr E is playing stupid saying he doesn't know what GFE is.
You can describe what you normally would do? I think there are many can list things that you do not require. I think even your definition of GFE would be different from Elvis', at least from the intensity point of view. He has more authentic one and you are unlike to have that.
I have a bunch of friends who roll similarly, pay the same rates +/- for the same quality and the majority of them are happy with what they get.
I agree with this until one day one meets some other experienced men outside of the circle who can show him he pays far less for similar looking chicks when naked.
I don't do street girls, be it Lleras or El Centro or any other place or city in the world, because SW are the bottom of the barrel. I don't want to deal with crackheads, high volume, hardened pros. Plus, the risk of catching STD or getting robbed is much higher when dealing with street girls. I agree that one pays more for safety. You have a few misconceptions because you don't have the actual experience. Do you think when a girl in El Centro got disease, she would be able to hide it? I would say the girls online are more likely to be able to hide it.
Hard to find GFE when you pay street hookers 10-20 bucks.
Then pay her the rate that will get you GFE.
I agree that one pays more for safety. You have a few misconceptions because you don't have the actual experience. Do you think when a girl in El Centro got disease, she would be able to hide it? I would say the girls online are more likely to be able to hide it.
Then pay her the rate that will get you GFE.GFE from a street girl? What are you smoking? I don't want to be kissing a girl who just sucked someone's dick 30 minutes ago, let alone share a meal with her and do all other things I would do with a GF. If I want a steak I go to a steakhouse, not a seafood place. If I want GFE, I certainly don't hire street hookers.
I agree with this until one day one meets some other experienced men outside of the circle who can show him he pays far less for similar looking chicks when naked.I have met Centro and Santa Fe rats, and most of the girls they fuck I wouldn't even touch regardless of price. Mfs have a lot of experience fucking uglies, but zero experience fucking stunners, there is nothing I could learn from them, mongering wise.
I have met Centro and Santa Fe rats, and most of the girls they fuck I wouldn't even touch regardless of price. Mfs have a lot of experience fucking uglies, but zero experience fucking stunners, there is nothing I could learn from them, mongering wise.I am not talking about them.
GFE from a street girl? What are you smoking? I don't want to be kissing a girl who just sucked someone's dick 30 minutes ago, let alone share a meal with her and do all other things I would do with a GF. If I want a steak I go to a steakhouse, not a seafood place. If I want GFE, I certainly don't hire street hookers.Are you talking about the men who take girls from Lleras too?
You are basically looking for girls with passport with US visa. It's the same
Mr Enternational
09-15-24, 19:17
Didn't you post that you verify their school, work and background info by photos rigidly? A girl won't be able to get a visa without a strong financial background which implies higher social class.Which would also imply that she does not need his 600,000 pesos.
Mr Enternational
09-15-24, 19:21
Mr E is playing stupid saying he doesn't know what GFE is.Well of course I do. The same as I know what the best position for sex is.
Mr Enternational
09-15-24, 19:48
And I never claimed to be the only person meeting the hottest chicks because I'm paying them more. I have a bunch of friends who roll similarly, pay the same rates +/- for the same quality and the majority of them are happy with what they get.I have friends in Thailand that have fucked the same chicks that I have. Found out that for some reason my friends give them $60 for short time while I give them $30 for long time. I guess during the day when they go for short time they are the hottest chicks, but at night when they come to my place for long time they are fat ugly drugged out street girls with diseases.
Do you and your friends even try to negotiate? Or do you all just assume as you have written that there is some type of market rate and go with the first price you are told?
The other day in a facebook group that I am in, one lady wrote about being overseas and negotiating prices. I was shocked at how many people in the group thought there was something wrong with doing that, refused to do that, or were too proud to do that. One person would not do it even after a local person told them that is what is expected. The responses were the same as ones that I have seen on this site over the years.
Do you and your friends even try to negotiate? Or do you all just assume as you have written that there is some type of market rate and go with the first price you are told?They are in a bidding war with each other. Friends are competitors. From the postings, I read the choices and services are diminishing and the price are rising. The girls have the pricing power indirectly because of other men. One will not get much better sex with that unless the girl really likes you. If the price trend keep going and don't plateau. Some will become casualties of their own doing, and some will have to become bargain hunter (or bottom feeder) if they don't up the spend.
I have friends in Thailand that have fucked the same chicks that I have. Found out that for some reason my friends give them $60 for short time while I give them $30 for long time. I guess during the day when they go for short time they are the hottest chicks, but at night when they come to my place for long time they are fat ugly drugged out street girls with diseases.
Do you and your friends even try to negotiate? Or do you all just assume as you have written that there is some type of market rate and go with the first price you are told?
The other day in a facebook group that I am in, one lady wrote about being overseas and negotiating prices. I was shocked at how many people in the group thought there was something wrong with doing that, refused to do that, or were too proud to do that. One person would not do it even after a local person told them that is what is expected. The responses were the same as ones that I have seen on this site over the years.Of course we negotiate. Oftentimes I just make my offer first (whatever amount I'm comfortable with) and see if she accepts. If we are too far apart, I move on, not a big deal.
They are in a bidding war with each other. Friends are competitors. From the postings, I read the choices and services are diminishing and the price are rising. The girls have the pricing power indirectly because of other men. One will not get much better sex with that unless the girl really likes you. If the price trend keep going and don't plateau. Some will become casualties of their own doing, and some will have to become bargain hunter (or bottom feeder) if they don't up the spend.We are not competitors, we just try to stick to the same price range and stay firm. Just like Lleras hookers stick to the same price point.
Are you talking about the men who take girls from Lleras too?
You are basically looking for girls with passport with US visa. It's the sameI told you, I don't care if they have a passport or a US visa.
We are not competitors, we just try to stick to the same price range and stay firm. Just like Lleras hookers stick to the same price point.Online dating (1 to many) and in person (1 to 1) are different. The girl is going to pick the highest bidder first.
I told you, I don't care if they have a passport or a US visa.It's an analogy. You just have not been able to make the connection. You effectively are saying if you see a 10 in Energy Living leaving and you would not have sex with her right way,.
Online dating (1 to many) and in person (1 to 1) are different. The girl is going to pick the highest bidder first.Generally yes, but not always. Example: you are 35, in a good shape, white, her type. You offer 500 k. Your competitor is 60, out of shape, black, not her type, but offers 650 k. You have better chances of being picked. Or, if she already knows you and likes you, she would rather pick you than a stranger who offers more.
It's an analogy. You just have not been able to make the connection. You effectively are saying if you see a 10 in Energy Living leaving and you would not have sex with her right way,.What are you talking about? I don't understand your analogies.
Generally yes, but not always. Example: you are 35, in a good shape, white, her type. You offer 500 k. Your competitor is 60, out of shape, black, not her type, but offers 650 k. You have better chances of being picked. Or, if she already knows you and likes you, she would rather pick you than a stranger who offers more.Now fine tune that a 35 year old arrogant racist white asshole who's in good shape and a cool 60 year old black guy with good Spanish who's out of shape. Then what do you get? An older dude getting your same pussy for less money. Doesn't that piss you off?
Now fine tune that a 35 year old arrogant racist white asshole who's in good shape and a cool 60 year old black guy with good Spanish who's out of shape. Then what do you get? An older dude getting your same pussy for less money. Doesn't that piss you off?No, it doesn't. If an older out of shape guy gets THE SAME girl for less money, kudos to him. Next time I will adjust my offers accordingly knowing that she (or any other girl of the same quality) can be had for less. Win win situation!
Now fine tune that a 35 year old arrogant racist white asshole who's in good shape and a cool 60 year old black guy with good Spanish who's out of shape. Then what do you get? An older dude getting your same pussy for less money. Doesn't that piss you off?Also, negotiations usually take place before you meet and do the deed, especially if you find her online. My example was more about the age and physical appearance which she can assess based on your profile / photos, she doesn't know anything about your personality at this point, unless you message each other for weeks / months prior to meeting. She doesn't know if you are cool or arrogant racist. You can fine tune this shit all day, my point doesn't change. Not always it is the highest bidder than wins.
You can fine tune this shit all day, my point doesn't change. Not always it is the highest bidder than wins.I think the old guy has won actually because she is going to pick both of you. You pay less than the old guy, but you will be paying even less without the old guy. You are still paying more because the girl leverage the power the higher paying customers to get you.
What are you talking about? I don't understand your analogies.Basically anything that you said you have done that makes me react like what you said.
What does her passport or US visa have to do with anything that I said? I don't care if she has one,
Also, negotiations usually take place before you meet and do the deed, especially if you find her online. My example was more about the age and physical appearance which she can assess based on your profile / photos, she doesn't know anything about your personality at this point, unless you message each other for weeks / months prior to meeting. She doesn't know if you are cool or arrogant racist. You can fine tune this shit all day, my point doesn't change. Not always it is the highest bidder than wins.I could talk to you online for two minutes and figure out that you're a white, racist asshole.
I could talk to you online for two minutes and figure out that you're a white, racist asshole.Congrats, you have lost the argument.
Congrats, you have lost the argument.About you being a racist?
And you are being dragged on the ground with your balls tied to the trailer hitch.
Lets tie his balls to the trailer hitch too, so that you have a company.
Interesting analogy. I knew that Elvis was a WHWMF. But I didn't think your were until now.
Lynching in the United States of America by dragging: victims were also killed in a variety of other ways: being shot, burned alive, thrown off a bridge, dragged behind a car,.
Very clear to me exactly why your chose that particular way to illustrate how you would like to treat me in real life. To my international readers, you are getting real insight into the mind of the American of privilege.
I could talk to you online for two minutes and figure out that you're a white, racist asshole.No, Huacho is dead on point. He sees it and I see it. Others have also commented on it. Not an isolated thought.
Says the guy who goes to a bar alone (because neither of the 2 friends he has, wanted to go with him) drinks with a random hooker, gets drugged and robbed and then has a crisis of self worth when the story is shared with the ISG membership.
Yep that is the fool I would listen to when it comes to making judgements about other people.Solo travelers go to bars alone all the time in Medellin, but this is only a crisis for you as a last stand after getting pulverized recently, caught vehemently denying what you repeatedly said and read just a few days prior, claiming you needed a hacker to post content from your PM box, claiming to have a "great fortune" while in a rented, fan cooled apartment in Laureles, no car, no driver on retainer, etc. That's some serious drugs or age related deficiencies, don't know which. I took the isolated event seven years ago that yielded virtually no loses as a learning experience and have had fun ever since. There was the issue of a member that posted an ever changing revised version out of petty revenge. I never did post the full version of his year long fiasco in Medellin. My synopsises were actually kinder.
Don't go to Spain or Nice, France though, where I have some good intel. It's likely out of your budget, but would be a big upgrade.
King of the Sloppy seconds. Are you sure about that? I've been coming to (and in) Colombia for a decade. Are you sure I didn't meet your girlfriend years ago and fill her full of jizz?"Sloppy seconds," really? You're 67 right? You're back at the lunchroom table insisting you have the most friends, more sad than funny actually.
And contrary to some of your other misconceptions, Latin American girls are not the same as American girls. They don't only go on dates with men that are in their 20's or 30's. Sure an obese pig of an American in his 60's probably doesn't get dates unless there is a payment involved. But 50's or 60's in good shape, speaks the language, has world experience and you could have a date every night of the week. It is a different culture than you are used to.Barring very peculiar exceptions, well up in your 60's you're still a repulsive grandpa to the young cuties, beer belly or no, and even in Colombia. They show you what they like in their FB feeds and WhatsApp updates, and they look nothing like you. And with your rented Laureles apartment, cabbing it with no driver on retainer, etc. You aren't even impressing them with money. Just because you act like an adolescent online doesn't make you look like one. Peter Pan is a fiction novel. Though he isn't right about everything, this is where MiamiBoy1 has a point, and will always have a point. Acknowledge his point and this pointless discussion can end.
It might be a little different with the over the hill hotel maids you claim to have lured. But just be the trick that you are for a bit of occasional entertainment, age with some dignity and grace, and stop coming here pretending like you are smarter than everyone else, looking for reinforcement of your fantasies that everyone knows are BS. I hope I was of help.
P.S. What "world experience" are you talking about? Surely you aren't talking about riding around Medellin in cabs, or sitting all day with Osteoknot huffing pink while looking at his anal cavity pics of streetwalkers. I don't think work at your New Mexico strip mall hustling high interest loans counts. And about every gringo I come across that reports to be fluent in Spanish knows about 50 words, though you've been stuck there a good while so you might top them.
Elvis 2008
09-17-24, 13:39
About you being a racist?
No, Huacho is dead on point. He sees it and I see it. Others have also commented on it. Not an isolated thought.LOL. Are the Democratic douche talking points helping you guys get laid? I cannot think of anything more ironic than elderly, often out of shape overweight black American men claiming to be victims of racism and white privilege flying to Colombia desperate to bang Latinas who make 10% of what the American black man makes. No, you Colombian Latinas do not know our pain, our suffering. OMG. Are you fucking kidding me? Claiming to have less privilege than Colombians when you were born in the USA? And yes, I must be racist for pointing out how fucking stupid that is. LOL again.
My Venezuelan ex-fiancée tried to tell me there was no racism in Venezuela, and I wondered if the same were true in Colombia.
Barring very peculiar exceptions, well up in your 60's you're still a repulsive grandpa to the young cuties, beer belly or no, and even in Colombia. They show you what they like in their FB feeds and WhatsApp updates, and they look nothing like you.I never talked politics with my gal for years. When Petro got elected, she texted me about her fears for Colombia. Would Colombia go the route of Venezuela? I never really got the cheering of left-right in Latin America like others. To me, it was always if they were corrupt or not. Latin presidents on both sides have a history of putting the countries assets in their pockets. If private property rights are right wing, then I guess she is right wing.
It was almost as if right on cue my gal showed me the video of the black female VP in Colombia flying around the country in a helicopter for "security purposes". I can imagine her defense being, "Well, would you object if it were a white man doing it?
Petro's approval rating now is at a whopping 26%. https://www.americasquarterly.org/article/colombias-petro-is-under-pressure-to-deliver-halfway-through-his-term/.
It has been my gal's daughter more than my gal who has let loose on how much racism in Colombia exists. A family friend said when I was much younger there is more racism in the Northern USA than the Southern USA, the North just hid it better, and I think the same of Colombia. It has learned to hide how racist much of it is.
I thought the hallmark of a Medellin moron was this notion that the women only are interested in you for your money and yet here we go with putting them on a pedestal thinking these virtuous women share your beliefs on privilege and the concept of white Americans and Colombians being privileged while black Americans were not.
From what I have seen personally, young women do not give a fuck about politics and will tell you whatever you want to hear.
Elvis 2008
09-17-24, 13:58
Generally yes, but not always. Example: you are 35, in a good shape, white, her type. You offer 500 k. Your competitor is 60, out of shape, black, not her type, but offers 650 k. You have better chances of being picked. Or, if she already knows you and likes you, she would rather pick you than a stranger who offers more.You see, MB, I do not get that. Is that your goal? Getting hookers for less than older guys?
I read that Manizales came on here and said he has two women he is paying $400 a month who are gorgeous, fucks the shit out of him, and treat him like a king. IMO that is how you beat the Medellin morons not getting a better price.
I was surprised no one gave him any shit. Maybe that is because he is claiming to do it in a place other than Medellin.
Instead of fucking hookers, I would be going after women the Medellin morons would never have a chance at.
Yes, women want $ and men want sex. That is almost always how it starts. The goal though should be to get beyond that.
About you being a racist?
No, Huacho is dead on point. He sees it and I see it. Others have also commented on it. Not an isolated thought.It was you who brought up the clown car with Elvis being a driver and me being a "shotgun". What kind of response did you expect? And what does my response have to do with racism? I never even mentioned your (or anyone else's) skin color / race. I don't even know if you are white or black, but based on your responses I would assume you are black. I have met many ISG dudes of all races and skin colors, from all over the world, and I don't give a damn about someone's race, what's important for me is personality and if we roll similarly.
It was you who brought up the clown car with Elvis being a driver and me being a "shotgun". What kind of response did you expect? And what does my response have to do with racism? I never even mentioned your (or anyone else's) skin color / race. I don't even know if you are white or black, but based on your responses I would assume you are black. I have met many ISG dudes of all races and skin colors, from all over the world, and I don't give a damn about someone's race, what's important for me is personality and if we roll similarly.You need to change how you respond if you don't want people to think that way.
Don't be throwing up that weak shit about not wanting to meet me. I know what that is about. FEAR! You prefer to stay behind the safety of your computer screen and bang on your keyboard to meeting another man face to face. Why? Because that requires for you to have you big boy pants on instead of you American Flag short skirt and your red white and blue pom poms.
Are the Democratic douche talking points helping you guys get laid? I cannot think of anything more ironic than elderly, often out of shape overweight black American men claiming to be victims of racism and white privilege flying to Colombia desperate to bang Latinas who make 10% of what the American black man makes.Well, I'm not sure exactly how American Politics and Race play into deciding who get to visits Colombia. Exactly who you are talking about? You cannot even define a Passport Bro nor tell me how to identify one.
Personally I am elderly. But if you want to see if I am overweight out of shape black man then stop beating on your keyboard and come out from behind the safety of your computer screen. Meet me in real life. Find out for yourself. Stop making massive assumptions in your replies to my posts.
Here is what is funny to me, if you are not elderly, not overweight, in good shape, make lots of money and have game. Tell me why men of any race have to fly to another country to pay to get pussy?
Why do they become International Tricks? The answer to the question is why I know neither you nor Miami Boy are directing your racist bullshit at me. You are both being ignorant idiots. Because I actually live in different countries outside my country of origin. I am not getting on a plane to get laid. I walk outside my door or it gets delivered to my door. I have pussy in my bed as I write this post. This girl sucks dick on an entirely different level, put me to sleep early. Then will wake up in the morning and fuck me before taking here shower, fixing breakfast and going to work.
You and Miami Boy both talk shit about others that do the exact same thing that you do. You are both International Tricks who simply pay more for their pussy than others so the can come on a obscure web site create internet personalities and brag. I'm a real person. People know me on ISG. I don't know who Miami Boy or you are Elvis. Both of you are afraid to come out of the woodwork and actually meet me. But we know what that is about. You both can continue to be KeyBoard warriors. I am cool with it and I understand it.
I must be racist for pointing out how fucking stupid that is. LOL again.Yes, just as racist and stupid as your fucking butt boy clown car shotgun rider who claims to not know that stating that he is comfortable with the imagery of dragging two Americans behind a car (one Black the other Mexican) does not represent racial insensitivity at best or that he's a WHWMF like you at best.
So, now I am going to call Elvis out by name. Because everything he writes is from the position of privilege that he received from what he looks like and where his mother dropped him out of his vagina.
He has called me out for pointing out the type of privilege that is given to those that look like him. Trump has the same privilege. And if you look like Trump. Don't hate. Because I don't hate you. I am just calling it the way I see it. I don't look like Trump. I don't have his privilege. What I have I earned I earned in the face of withering discrimination. Mother fuckers want to call me a victim and say I have a victim mentality. Nothing could be further from the truth. I did not let any of those mother fuckers kidnap my happiness and success. In fact I represent strength and resilience in the face of overwhelming odds due to my sheer determination to get mine!Click to read the complete post my ISG Brothers. Especially my ISG brothers that that are NOT from the United States of America. I am providing insight in to the mind of certain individuals like Elvis and Miami Boy unafraid to not only put their bigoted ideas on display but like Trump double down on them..
Solo travelers go to bars alone all the time in Medellin, but this is only a crisis for you as a last stand after getting pulverized recently, caught vehemently denying what you repeatedly said and read just a few days prior, claiming you needed a hacker to post content from your PM box, claiming to have a "great fortune" while in a rented, fan cooled apartment in Laureles, no car, no driver on retainer, etc. That's some serious drugs or age related deficiencies, don't know which. I took the isolated event seven years ago that yielded virtually no loses as a learning experience and have had fun ever since. There was the issue of a member that posted an ever changing revised version out of petty revenge. I never did post the full version of his year long fiasco in Medellin. My synopsises were actually kinder.
Don't go to Spain or Nice, France though, where I have some good intel. It's likely out of your budget, but would be a big upgrade.Wow! Paulie I am so touched that you are concerned with my financial condition. Not to distract you from your rant but let's see if we can remember a few of your admissions.
Florida statewide average annual income is 64 to 69 K. I earned a bit less than that range, but am in a lower cost of living area. The poverty line in Florida for a one person household is a little over 15 K per year, and the minimum wage is $12 an hour.
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2024/06/06/highest-earning-salaries-state-rankings-florida-wallethub/73981938007/
I may choose to forgo the Laureles rented, fan cooled apartment, the no vehicle, always taxi at night, no driver or girls on retainer, and no personal assistant life you've secured in Medellin with your "great fortune. " But I'll still come down and get laid occasionally.
Thanks again.
Paulie.So answer me this Paulie. You claim to have a "higher degree" but we all know that every University that offers Masters or Doctoral programs refers to them as Advanced Degree programs. But putting that aside for the moment. How is it that you have a "higher degree" and couldn't find a decent paying job in the private sector? Were you too dumb or too lazy?? How could someone with a "higher degree" reach retirement age even as a State / Local government employee earning less than the statewide average? Most of those statewide average earners are in their 30's-40's. You had 20-30 years more experience and a "higher degree" and you couldn't even earn the statewide average?
I'll drop it there. Let's not even remind everyone about your lack of friends or your inability to get a date without paying for it. What do people say about you? Sad!.
"If I were white and a member of the elite, they wouldn't be making a scandal about it," stated Mrquez. "It's normal for elites, born in their golden cradles, to be transported in these aircraft," she added. Mrquez also justified her daily commute with a military escort given security risks against her life. "For the elites it's not normal that a woman who worked as domestic help in a family home, and now Vice President of Colombia, moves around in a helicopter. ".
https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/vp-francia-marquezs-angers-colombians-over-helicopter-commute/#google_vignette.
The route the Vice President of Colombia must travel is dangerous and there has been a motorcade ambush. It is a security issue.
https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/vp-francia-marquezs-angers-colombians-over-helicopter-commute/#google_vignette.
Colombian Vice President Francia Marquez, who was elected on a history-making ticket in August, has said her security detail has foiled an assassination attempt close to her home.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/10/colombia-vp-marquez-says-security-foiled-assassination-attempt
People are trying to kill the Vice President of Colombia. Individuals like Elvis and Miami Boy are good with it.
You see, MB, I do not get that. Is that your goal? Getting hookers for less than older guys?
I read that Manizales came on here and said he has two women he is paying $400 a month who are gorgeous, fucks the shit out of him, and treat him like a king. IMO that is how you beat the Medellin morons not getting a better price.
I was surprised no one gave him any shit. Maybe that is because he is claiming to do it in a place other than Medellin.
Instead of fucking hookers, I would be going after women the Medellin morons would never have a chance at.
Yes, women want $ and men want sex. That is almost always how it starts. The goal though should be to get beyond that.My goal is to have a great time with the hottest and the nicest women I can possibly get with the limited resources that I have (money, time, looks, etc). I don't care if an older dude pays more, this is how it is supposed to be anyways, the larger the age gap, the more you have to pay, or the higher your status should be. But if I learn that I somehow pay more than others for the same quality and experience, I will definitely try to pay less next time. I'm not cheap by any stretch, but I don't like to be overpaying.
Speaking of this Manizales guy, don't you think he got an amazing deal? 400 bucks a month fucking a hot chick without any restrictions? Hell yeah, give me 3! In Medellin this would be impossible.
You need to change how you respond if you don't want people to think that way.And you need to learn how to get your point across in an argument, because when I read your posts, most of the times I can't even agree or disagree, simply because I don't understand what you were trying to say.
GiraffyBoy
09-17-24, 22:56
Just posted this in the Chit Chat Thread but see that is hasn't been visited since August and I don't want to wait for an answer.
I've been seeing a bunch of references to Instagram and I've never used it before. Forgive my ignorance, but I just signed up and am curious how guys find girls on IG. I've been searching around and can't figure it out.
Elvis 2008
09-18-24, 23:56
It was you who brought up the clown car with Elvis being a driver and me being a "shotgun". What kind of response did you expect? And what does my response have to do with racism? I never even mentioned your (or anyone else's) skin color / race. I don't even know if you are white or black, but based on your responses I would assume you are black. I have met many ISG dudes of all races and skin colors, from all over the world, and I don't give a damn about someone's race, what's important for me is personality and if we roll similarly.Just so you understand MB, SC is carrying on his shit from the American politics forum. He did not like it when I told him my father grew up begging for bread in a foreign country, and I was offended at his use of the world privileged in describing him solely because of his skin color. And then I knocked him down for going to 3rd world countries where he clearly is the one privileged and then he followed it up with the racist comment that blacks cannot be racist. I must have imagined all those times blacks referred to whites as crackers or honkeys. And the last one was his sexist comment pussy is pussy to justify fucking his 6's that would probably be 4's for me or you.
As to why he is fucking such lame women, he gives the excuse that I must be like you thinking I am getting better than him because I am paying more, and that is how you got dragged into it. I did not bother to correct his stupidity with facts. Like so many Medellin morons, and SC is definitely a Medellin moron, facts seem to confuse them.
Thing about Medellin morons is they play this game where they swear they are doing better or equal for to the guys with higher standards. Then they make these dumb comments like guys here cannot date elite Colombian women or admit to fucking fat women, diseased women, midgets, ghetto women, pregnant women, and 6's. If you are dumb enough to admit to that, then yeah I am doing better than you.
If you are a Medellin moron, you think that you just offer up double Manziales is paying and his women will come running to you. That won't happen. Medellin morons are not trustworthy. Look at JJBee and banging his "girlfriend's" best friend. If you think that the trust Manziales has not built up with his woman is important, you need to get out of the hooker game and talk to some real women.
Elvis 2008
09-19-24, 00:21
"If I were white and a member of the elite, they wouldn't be making a scandal about it," stated Mrquez. "It's normal for elites, born in their golden cradles, to be transported in these aircraft," she added.LOL. Yeah, I wish I predicted her justifying using a helicopter for transportation in the dirt poor country of Colombia with racism. Oh wait, I did just that!
Now that you know Colombia is so racist SC, maybe you should stop going. I know you think that Colombia might not make it without you, but I assure you they will survive.
Thing about it is the president of Colombia is down to a 26% approval rating. He was pulling a Hugo Chavez and trying to rewrite the Colombian Constitution to his benefit after swearing he would not, and that attempt is going nowhere. I have been told the Colombian president's career is done.
Before even going into the nuances of a right-left, red-blue, or even black-white debate, the Colombian people deserve a president who does not steal them blind and one who prevents stealing to be so rampant in the country.
Why are MiamiBoy and Elvis taking so much shit about the elderly ISG brothers among us. Here is another perspective. Perhaps if you are under 50 and having to hire prostitutes in order to have a girl get your dick off, you are the one that is fucked up!.
My goal is to have a great time with the hottest and the nicest women I can possibly get with the limited resources that I have (money, time, looks, etc). This is no different than what any of us is doing in life when we are being a consumer in the market place.
I don't care if an older dude pays more, this is how it is supposed to be anyways, the larger the age gap, the more you have to pay, or the higher your status should be.Why if you are a younger guy, in shape, with money and privilege (white) are you unable to get pussy in your country of origin where you have that privilege? Why have you become a International Trick?
FYI, Elvis is also. He is just in denial about being a International Trick and a man of privilege in his country of origin. I wrote the following a while back:
Are you one of the successful men in their prime? And do you pay these hot girls that are in demand to fuck you?
Because if you are under 50 and are paying hot girls to fuck you anyone and I do mean anyone of any age or appearance can do that. I was in my late 40's before I started to pay girls to fuck me. Now, if you are talking "real relationships" (however you define it), then yes that can make a difference. And yet, I have no problem having girls enter "real relationships" (as I define it) that are 20 to 30 years younger than I am.
Now I am new to Colombia. And there are individuals who insist on calling me "newbie", but I do believe that there is no stigma for young girls to get with older guys. If individuals get out of prostitution ally and out into the real parts of the city you will see that older Colombian men can pull young Colombian girls. There may be some stigma with being with an older gringo. But if the girl is happy then they ignore that.
Now if you take your standard of 50 that means 30 years younger is 20. That means for those like me (pushing 60) then 30 years younger is 30. Now thirty might seem old to you young bucks. And yes they have passed their "real relationship" expiration date. But that puts the pussy on discount and even discounted pussy can fuck good. Once again in my opinion if you are under 50 and you are paying for pussy something is wrong with you. Exceptions, when you are on trips and don't know anyone or don't have time to develop a "real relationship".
I got a few years of living in a Latin American culture. Visitors not going to tell me 2 COP worth of anything about about culture. Any one posting here can tell me about where to find prostitutes. I stipulate that you guys (especially Elvis 2008) knows more about prostitution in Medellin than I do. And so I ask, when you come to Colombia MiamiBoy do you develop real relationships or pay prostitutes?How you like me now?
As to why he is fucking such lame women, he gives the excuse that I must be like you thinking I am getting better than him because I am paying more, and that is how you got dragged into it. I did not bother to correct his stupidity with facts. Like so many Medellin morons, and SC is definitely a Medellin moron, facts seem to confuse them.Your problem Elvis is that you are deeply immersed in your perceptions and you fail take a step back and get some perspective. As the leader of the clown car crew it does not surprise me.
LOL. Yeah, I wish I predicted her justifying using a helicopter for transportation in the dirt poor country of Colombia with racism.This is you being so immersed in your perceptions that you have not perspective. That causes you to do what you accuse others do and that is to ignore the facts presented that apply to the situation.
What are the facts of this situation?
https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/vp-francia-marquezs-angers-colombians-over-helicopter-commute/#google_vignette.
The route the Vice President of Colombia must travel is dangerous and there has been a motorcade ambush. It is a security issue.
https://thecitypaperbogota.com/news/vp-francia-marquezs-angers-colombians-over-helicopter-commute/#google_vignette.
Colombian Vice President Francia Marquez, who was elected on a history-making ticket in August, has said her security detail has foiled an assassination attempt close to her home.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/10/colombia-vp-marquez-says-security-foiled-assassination-attempt
People are trying to kill the Vice President of Colombia. Individuals like Elvis and Miami Boy are good with it.
Just so you understand MB. When Elvis says "SC is carrying on his shit from the American politics forum" what he means is that I am presenting facts that he does not like and that want to counter them with ad hominem attacks and be an apologist on your behalf. Can't you speak for yourself?
I do not give a damn about his Father. Because it does not appear that the took any lessons from him. What I see is a man that had developed on his own into a keyboard warrior on a obscure site with the purpose of sharing information on having sex with girls. He is just a one country International Trick (similar to a duffle bag boy) hating on a brother that has achieve just as much as he has (or more) in the face of withering discrimination on a fraction of the resources.
What I know for sure is that neither your nor your clown car driver Elvis would take that racial shit you spew here on ISG into your workplace and talk it there, Nor would be braking about being a International Trick. Holla! Elvis is so rapped up in own perceptions that he thinks what he says is fact, in reality it is just his opinion.
Opinion: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
The thing about the Clown Car Crew is they play this game of: my prostitutes are better than your prostitutes because I pay them more and because I say they are. When the reality is that they are International Tricks up in here just like all the rest of us. And no amount of name calling or ad hominem attacks is going too change that basic fact. If you are paying for pussy, it does not matter if you are living outside of your country origin or inside of the United States of America, you still just a basic trick.
Elvis 2008
09-19-24, 21:21
Perhaps if you are under 50 and having to hire prostitutes in order to have a girl get your dick off, you are the one that is fucked up! Why if you are a younger guy, in shape, with money and privilege (white) are you unable to get pussy in your country of origin where you have that privilege? Why have you become a International Trick?
How you like me now?The first time I recall a black man getting a hot woman was Herschel Walker in the early 80's and that is when I started becoming interested in women. So my whole dating life, I have been seeing black men get hot white women so maybe your privilege shit works on guys here who saw a time when black men could only date black women, but it does not work on me. Your claim of "lacking privilege" is just another lame ass excuse for your not getting hotter women.
Colombian women on average are better looking than American women, and I noticed much more positivity with Catholics in the USA and given how many Catholics there are in Colombia, I have seen that same type of positivity there. That is the basis of the personality difference IMO with American and Colombian women.
The single biggest difference between the USA and Colombia is the victim mindset, which you SC show so vividly, pays off in the USA, and it does not in Colombia. Colombia does not have the money to pay the so called victims. The laws on the books are the same with regards to divorce and child support but if you think you are getting child support in Colombia, forget about it. If you think you are going to divorce your cheating husband and get part of his income, you are dreaming. So when there is a mother / wife or any women in need, the beauty of Colombia is the women turn to each other for help. Thing is if you try to play that victim card with said women, you are going to get your fucking teeth kicked in.
In the USA, we equate equal responsibility to a married man who gets his wife pregnant and a frat guy who bangs a woman when he is drunk. The married man is a father. The frat guy is a sperm donor. Trying to attach any responsibility to the frat guy and telling him he is the father and has to pay child support is bullshit. As being a mother is a choice, a woman should bear responsibility for that choice and being responsible does not mean aligning yourself with government to beat the snot out of a sperm donor. If the frat guy wants to participate, and he should only want to if the mother is not a total witch, that should be his choice.
If you are a witch in Colombia, you are not getting any money from the father. If you get a divorce because your husband is cheating, you better be prepared to make it on your own because unlike in the USA in so many cases, in Colombia, divorce is not going to result in some huge payoff. That is why there is so much infidelity in Colombia. The price men pay is much, much less than in the USA.
So if you an American woman, you can get fat and become unattractive, refuse sex, and be a complete witch, and the government has told you that is okay, and you should still expect a man's help if you do all those things. Women do not have to do anything when it comes to relationships with men. With rare exceptions, they are ALWAYS the victims in conflicts with men.
Thing with American women is even if you find a woman who is attractive, fucks the shit out of you, and is nice, are they going to be like that a few years after you commit to them? Probably not.
So unlike their American counterparts, the Colombian women have incentive to stay attractive, to continue to have sex, and not to be witches. That you do not know this, SC, once more, just shows me how dumb you are.
Why are MiamiBoy and Elvis taking so much shit about the elderly ISG brothers among us. Here is another perspective. Perhaps if you are under 50 and having to hire prostitutes in order to have a girl get your dick off, you are the one that is fucked up!. Fucked up? Seriously? If you are 40 or 50 years old, and out of shape, good luck fucking a 20 year old attractive (7+) girl in your country of origin (heck, in any country!) for FREE. What are you going to bridge the gap with, if not money? She going to fuck for free just because you have a good sense of humor?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2946188]This is no different than what any of us is doing in life when we are being a consumer in the market place. [ / be].
It seems like the medellin morons' goal is to bust a quick nut with the least amount of money, time and effort, disregarding the quality aspect.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2946188]Why if you are a younger guy, in shape, with money and privilege (white) are you unable to get pussy in your country of origin where you have that privilege? Why have you become a [be]International Trick[ / be]? [ / QUOTE].
First of all, I'm of no privilege in my country of origin, which is not the USA (you, idiot, didn't have a clue, did you? Second of all, who said I am unable to get pussy in my country of origin? Every time I travel there, I do get pussy, sometimes p4 p sometimes not. The girls are beautiful and I speak their language, so it is not that difficult. Thirdly, girls in other parts of the world are hotter than those in my country of residence (USA), they are friendlier, cheaper, the age gap is not uncommon and is easier to bridge with the resources that I have.
I will say it again, if you are under 50 years of age and having to hire prostitutes in order to have girl get your dick off you are the one that is fucked up..
I can speak that with confidence because I got "free" pussy right up until I left my country of origin at 50 years old. So, MiamiBoy answer the question: Are you fucked up or not because you are under 50 years old and a International Trick?
Only you and 2008 have every questioned my intelligence in person or online. Do you really have so much of your self worth tied up in the appearance of your prostitutes that you need to argue with a 60 year old man on an obscure website about sharing information on having sex with girls? Just because we have a difference in how to get pussy does not make my methods any better or worse than yours. No mater how many ad hominem attacks or how many names you call me is going change that. So, we should call a truce on that issue.
When it comes to quality, you are no position to judge the girls I hire as my prostitutes. You have never seen them. And if your are not trying be obtuse you will have to admit that is a fact. MiamiBoy has never seen a prostitute that SubCmdr has hired. If you are going with the guilt by association route then you are a racist because you hang with Elvis in the Clown Car riding shotgun. Make a choice. You cannot have it both ways.
What I know for sure is that neither your nor your clown car driver Elvis would take that racial shit you spew here on ISG into your workplace and talk it there, Nor would be bragging about being a International Trick. Holla! Elvis is so rapped up in own perceptions that he thinks what he says is fact, in reality it is just his opinion.
Opinion: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.Nothing surprises me about you MiamiBoy. You are a keyboard warrior that calls names but refuses to handle your business in person. It does not matter where the fuck you are from. The bottom line is that right now you are an International Trick just like me, just like Elvis2008. And if you are under 50, need to be an International Trick now, what is going to happen to you in 10 or 20 years. LOL!.
You have adapted well to your country of residence. You speak like man of privilege. You make racial references that anyone who says they live there would never do in polite company. If you cannot get pussy in the USA where you live (you are under 50, in shape, have money) then you are not what you say you are.
Because if you are under 50 and are paying hot girls to fuck you anyone and I do mean anyone of any age or appearance can do that And so I ask, when you come to Colombia MiamiBoy do you develop real relationships or pay prostitutes?
I have friends in Thailand that have fucked the same chicks that I have. Found out that for some reason my friends give them $60 for short time while I give them $30 for long time. Why did you use an example for negotiations with girls in Pattaya, Thailand (half a world away) here in the Medellin rants forum when you spend most of your time in Bogota? Are you saying that Thai Girls and Colombian Girls are the same?
I don't get the connection or relationship.
Are you one of those posters who can dish out the smart comments but can't take it when you get push back?
The first time I recall a black man getting a hot woman was Herschel Walker in the early 80's and that is when I started becoming interested in women.So this all started from envy of the Big Black Dick (BBD). I get it now. That is why you give me so much push back. You looked down saw what you were working with and figured out quick that you really had no hope. Money supplements your deficiencies in some areas.
Let me tell you 2008, just because I disagree with your pussy methods does not make me dumb. You say that to make yourself feel better. I am pretty certain that I am way smarter than you. Live a better life. Stress free. I can admit I am a International Trick but so are all of your buddies that get hot girls also. LOL! No matter what you think the girls I fuck look like. You simply do not know. That is a fact. You tell yourself you fuck the hottest girl on earth in order to protect your fragile ego from hard information that I present that the quality I seek can neither be bought or measured by your beauty standards. Or by your shotgun rider in the clown car either.
Now it is has been a long time since I have been in the United States of America. But before I left I fucked at will all the way up to age 50. No problems. Yes, I go put through the ringer. But the part you left out is that the laws work both ways. So, I am 1 - 1 in that department. Can you tell me why you talk shit about those who live in Third World countries all the while breaking your back to go there in order to pay to fuck them?
Now you run along you duffle bag boy and take care of the tasks for the girl who you are currently SIMPing for has given you.
Elvis 2008
09-20-24, 21:13
The thing about the Clown Car Crew is they play this game of: my prostitutes are better than your prostitutes because I pay them more and because I say they are. When the reality is that they are International Tricks up in here just like all the rest of us. And no amount of name calling or ad hominem attacks is going too change that basic fact.
If you are paying for pussy, it does not matter if you are living outside of your country origin or inside of the United States of America, you still just a basic trick.If you do not know that for a wealthy man the "I am not paying for pussy" is the most expensive pussy there is, then I would say that you are not wealthy, but I really do not think that. I think you are a fucking narcissist and that when you pay for pussy, it is somehow noble but when others do it, it is disgusting.
The thing about the Clown Car Crew is they play this game of: my prostitutes are better than your prostitutes because I pay them more and because I say they are. When the reality is that they are International Tricks up in here just like all the rest of us. Uh sure. You said that you bang 6's because of the experience. That tells me when you were with better looking women, you had lousy experiences, and you decided that if you had lousy experiences, then everyone else must have as well. I am sure that it never occurred to you that the problem you have with the hottest women might be you.
I just watched Beauty and the Beast again, a movie about two narcissists but where one was forcibly being taught to be more considerate. The untrained narcissist told the girl what she should like. The one trying to do better learned what the woman liked and accommodated her.
The reason I bring that up is I asked MB what game he was playing and his goals, and he answered it. His factual response, like most facts you do not like, was ignored. No, you decided you knew what MB's game and goals of the game were better than he did.
Given that the 8 to 10 types are inundated with narcissists trying to go out with them, you probably are best staying with the 6's. The high character 8 to 10's will avoid you, and the low character 8 to 10's will fleece you.
He is hating on a brother that has achieve just as much as he has (or more) in the face of withering discrimination on a fraction of the resources. I have equal or worse than the 6's you have? LOL. And you want me to meet you in person?
Outside of their being nothing for me to gain, I am doing you a favor never meeting you.
The thing about the Clown Car Crew is they play this game of: my prostitutes are better than your prostitutes because I pay them more and because I say they are. When the reality is that they are International Tricks up in here just like all the rest of us. And no amount of name calling or ad hominem attacks is going too change that basic fact. If you are paying for pussy, it does not matter if you are living outside of your country origin or inside of the United States of America, you still just a basic trick.Here is a good analogy for you. When you are hungry, you go grab McDonald's. Because it is cheap and quick, and all you care about is stuffing your belly. Okay, no problem, your choice. When I'm hungry, I go to a sit down restaurant and I get a nice, healthy meal which I enjoy. I also get a great service and I enjoy the ambiance of the venue. And yes, I pay more. My money, my choice, right? Now, you, mcdonald's guy, are saying you get the same experience as I do, for a fraction of the price I pay. Wrong! You are delusional as fuck. What we both get is food (mcdonalds crap vs seafood / steak) in our bellies, but our dining experiences are completely different.
MB, your analogy is as fucked up as you are. I don't goto McDonalds when I am in the United States of America. I most certainly am not going in the Dominican Republic, Colombia or Thailand. GTF!.
I speak mother fucking Spanish and can handle myself on the streets, and I am not scared on my own shadow like you, so I am not stuck in mother fucking tourist areas. You see I am going to a local restaurant in Medellin. One that is serving food that is satisfying the needs and desires of other Colombians that live in Medellin. One of my favorite restaurants you will not see a single mother fucking gringo / extranjaro that looks like you or E2008. But you will get a tremendous experience eating there (and for a very reasonable price). I took my ATF, her Sister and their Mother out for lunch there. They live in Medellin and had never been there. They like it a lot. Were very surprised that I found it on own. I got ten years of boots on the ground living in in LATAM. Don't ever compare yourself (a mother fucker is who just passing through cause he got a work release pass from sex prison) to me ever again. You cannot measure up.
When you hit the ground the wheels up clock starts running and you gots condoms in one hand a COP note taped to your forehead running around Poblado paying premium prices to get what you want. That is ok. Recognize what you are: a International Trick who is in shape, has money and under 50. It is all good. I am a international trick too. The biggest difference between you and I is that I keep a residence (Strata 3) in Medellin and in the two other places I named off (plus in the DisUnited States of America) above and you are just a visitor everywhere you go. You still operate on the visitors economy. And anyone that lives there will tell you the same if you would just shut trap, use your eyes, open your mind and learn something bro.
I don't think Gabacho or "his team members" are attacking you for overpaying. It is your money you can do what you want with it. But when you claim that you are bedding the most beautiful women and everyone else is picking up the street walkers and hand-me-downs, well after laughing at the ignorance of it, they probably had a few terse words for you.Exactly! And those that do things different have harsh words for you because the ignorance that you and E2008 display with the I pay more for my pussy therefore it is better and I am better.
Let me give you an example. You and I can get on an Airplane in MIA. The destination is MDE. You fly in first class. I fly in cattle class. Is your experience better than mine? Yes. Can I tell you that you paid too much for your ticket? No. Can you tell me that you are better than me because you flew in First Class? No. Well that is exactly what you and E2008 try to do. But when you two get pushback on the idea you both get your panties in a knot. For whatever reason (that you are both racists or otherwise) neither one of you can wrap your mind around the idea that I was on the same plane with you. Wheels up the same time you did. Wheels down the same time to did. Yep, you got off the plane before me. But we arrived at the same Airport. LOL! That concept just fucks both of your minds up.
And why is that? You like to believe it is because your standards are higher than everyone elses. But you fail to grasp the reasons. You are a visitor here. You don't have time to visit the barrios and various pueblos to see what life is like there. You don't have time to see all the sights, and sample all the bounty that is Colombia. If you lived here and had the time you would meet women who would topple whatever standards you think you have. You might need to speak the language to really make your explorations enjoyable.Here the man is speaking to you. He is putting wisdom in your eye holes. Because I am not in Colombia right now I will have to use an example: Last night I wanted some fruit. I went to the Supermarket and paid 37 THB for it. But I could have gone down to my local market (but I was lazy because I don't drive and would have had to walk a lot further) and bought the exact same fruit for 25 THB. You see how that works when you have llocal knowledge and learn how to stick and move. When ever I goto a new country I find a girl who picks me. I am not running behind here with stacks of COP notes because she fits my beauty ideas of 8 - 10. I'm looking for a quality personality and a willing to show me around. You can call them ugly, 2008 can call them lame. But unlike you two I do not have my self worth tied up in the appearance of the prostitutes I hire. Show up and call my ATF ugly to my face. I invite either one of you to do it. Let's see how that man to man conversation works out for you.
And contrary to some of your other misconceptions, Latin American girls are not the same as American girls. They don't only go on dates with men that are in their 20's or 30's. Sure an obese pig of an American in his 60's probably doesn't get dates unless there is a payment involved. But 50's or 60's in good shape, speaks the language, has world experience and you could have a date every night of the week. It is a different culture than you are used to. I think that is the concept that Gabacho is trying to explain to you.I am trying to explain it to you also.
Again, no one cares that you have your own methodology and you enjoy it. Good for you. I feel the exact same way. Just stop trying to say that the way you do things is inherently better than the way others do things. You and E2008 are still mother fucking wage slaves. How you going to tell me your life is better than mine. I might not have much money but it works for me, I don't get up and work for it. And just because I do not feel the need to throw a lot of money at a girl because my methodology is to pick girls that pick me. That way there is already a basic attraction and money that is gifted by me is a bonus. You also need to check yourself. I am pushing sixty. That means a girl 30 years my junior is 30. You are such and arrogant mother fucker that you think that means I am not getting a quality experience. ROTFLMAO. You man bitches from the USA are doing that in the USA. And if you could do that then you are not doing it for the price I am doing it. Date night in Thailand cost me 2000 THB. If we are wilding out and invite her sister and her husband it may cost me 5000 THB. We are going to a Thai Club. There are guys that have been visiting Thailand for years and never stepped foot in a Thai Club. They spend their time on Walking Street in in Pattaya and never venture out of the tourist zone. They cannot do what I do at the price I do it at. The experience of a Thai Club is off the chain. Just as much fun if not better for a fraction of the price you get at a gringo club. This is the same thing that happens to you when you visit Colombia. You pay gringo prices because that is what you want to do. But it does not make you better than anyone else. At least three other posters here have told you that.
And your opinion is based on what? .all the time you have spent in the barrios and pueblos outside of Poblado? Again one of your biggest problems is that you equate the customs and habits of Colombian girls with those of American girls. Their worlds are as different as the language they speak. Just like the man said. Mike drop. Mr. Gaida, prepare for jump. Aye, Commander, the board is green. Jump!.
I would say that you are not wealthy, but I really do not think that.You go ahead and think what you like. Your logic makes no sense. We both know that money trumps appearance and personality But by inference if I prefer a six (6) who takes care of me and and performs well in the bedroom by your definition: I am not wealthy. Furthermore you can find any number of comments made by individuals in many different forum and in this one we are posting in saying that because I refuse to pay a lot of money of pussy that I am poor. I have explained many time that I would prefer to spend my money on experiences with girls I like (my ATF) than give it to a prostitute. The only reason I go with the prostitute is that multiple relationships are difficult for me to manage time wise (I have better things to with my time and chase pussy). So by minimizing the amount of money I spend on prostitutes I get the best of both worlds.
I am not sure why you equate money with success and achievement. Anyone with money can get those girls that are eights (8) through tens (10) on your imaginary universal scale of worldwide beauty standards. You are a one country International Trick. I trave tlhe world. I am not wealthy, but I am time rich. It it feels glorious to not have anyone telling what what to do with your time. I was a wage slave working in the corporate, government, military wage slave plantations of my country of origins for years until I emancipated myself. How? Education!
Uh sure. You said that you bang 6's because of the experience. That tells me when you were with better looking women, you had lousy experiences, and you decided that if you had lousy experiences, then everyone else must have as well. I am sure that it never occurred to you that the problem you have with the hottest women might be you. Yes, E2000 you tell yourself this to make you feel better. Do you even know why you have such a problem with me?. Does not make any sense to me. Nothing I say or do affects anything your are doing with your eights (8) through tens (10) (why the range anyway, does that give you and your clown car crew room to have a off day? You are a man who knows nothing about me. Has never seen a girl I have dated or hired as a prostitute but you are willing to define me with your own mind. That is arrogance. It is also insecurity that you wrap so much of your self worth up into the appearance of the girls you date and the prostitutes you hire. Then you beat on your chest using your keyboard to make yourself look good do your crown crew brothers. My friends in real life here on ISG ask me:
Why do you fuck with that mother fucker Elvis. All he has ever done on ISG is talk bullshit. You are wasting your time with him
And you know what, it is true. But this is fun an games with me. Just hitting the ball over the tennis net practicing my shots. It is of no importance. What is the price of Bitcoin (BTC) as I write this? Hovering around 63 K USD. You have questioned if this is entertainment for me or not. Rest assured that is is. This is right brain activity.
Outside of their being nothing for me to gain, I am doing you a favor never meeting you.You actually doing yourself the favor out of fear and self preservation. The only favor you are doing for me is not wasting my time and proving that as a man you lack testicular fortitude. Please continue with your name calling and ad hominem attacks. Neither you nor MB seem to understand that this does not matter other than to yourselves.
They say I'm bipolar so indecisive; So muthafuckin' what I know some bitches who like it; The real n****** recite it, the real bitches they love it
It's just the way that I thug it it's what they want I'm like fuck it - By the Way, Jeesy.
E2008 you want to talk shit to me about ignoring facts.
You stated clearly that there was no justification for the Vice President of Colombia to be flying around in helicopters. Yet I presented you with two examples of attacks foiled by her protective security detail.
You are either the most callous man that has ever walked this earth or you have a reading comprehension problem. You do realize that her protective detail is also in the line of fire when the guns start going off? They are not in the business of taking unnecessary risks with their protectee nor the lives of their brothers in arms. They are all just hard working Colombians that just want to go home at the end of their shift and collect their paycheck on payday.
Are you going to stay with your position that the Vice President of Colombia is flying around on a helo for no reason when there are clearly individuals in her country that want her dead? May I add that they just captured Mauricio Presunto. The individual responsible for the attack on the Vice President of Colombia's Father. Security forces putting in work. Chalk up one for the good guys!
I just took the rock to the hole dunked it right in your mother fucken face E2008. Oh, that was nasty!.
are saying you get the same experience as I do, for a fraction of the price I pay. Wrong! You are delusional as fuck. I picked up my date at 7 Pm. She loves Chinese so we went to her favorite place to get some food to go for 70 mil. This can last several meals BTW. We went back to my apartment, I have her favorite drinks in my fridge and each cost than than 4 mil. It was maybe about 8 pm at this point. She played her favorite music, she danced, smoked (the cost is no more than 5 mil), we danced, and we chatted. We didn't actually start fucking until 9:20 PM. That is the GFE I got, and long foreplay. Haha. The sex continued until 12:05 AM. She left at 12:39 PM.
If the girl stays overnight, I go out to the best local bakery in the morning to buy fresh breads. The cost is less than 10 mil. On my way back, if I see flower vendor, i buy 2 mil of fresh flowers. I want to learn from you how you get it better by spending much more?
The girl that came last night at 8 PM. Again, I had her favorite drinks fully stocked and each costs less than 4 mil. Her favorite fruit is mango which I bought about 2 mil for the best quality and limon to go with it. Again it's more or less the same but she left early because she was preoccupied about a friend which I knew before hand because I also had sex with this civilian friend just a few days ago. Civilian usually is the best because you get a better GFE as they don't understand "working" yet. I want to know if your experience is better and how? For an average person, the girls in Medellin will hold back, especially the expensive popular ones. Elvis should be able to explain it to you. These girls do hold back but not anymore after some "talks".
There is a report about Gusto regular recently. If you look at the conversation, the girl is bluffing and position herself that she is doing the man a favor. He probably could get more out of it if it's something he wanted.
And you need to learn how to get your point across in an argument, because when I read your posts, most of the times I can't even agree or disagree, simply because I don't understand what you were trying to say.
Maybe because my goal is not to argue or win an argument
Nounce your experiences are similar to mine whenever I entertain in my residence in Medellin. But the most important part is that you use methods that work for you to get what you want. No statements about how you are doing better than everyone else. No statements that you ARE better than everyone else because of how you do things. I appreciate that you gave an actual example of your activities instead of all of the keyboard beating that goes on about how they do things (hottest girls in Medellin, 8 - 10's only, hamburger, seafood, steak).
I am hiring a prostitute not going to a restaurant To me the restaurant analogy fails in that you can have a dining experience that has wonderful service but you don't like the dish that you picked or how it was prepared. Some individuals act is if high payments ensure solid performance when we all know that is not true. In my opinion there is / are certain individual (s) have just been put in check. Holla!.
How you like me now?
I picked up my date at 7 Pm. She loves Chinese so we went to her favorite place to get some food to go for 70 mil. This can last several meals BTW. We went back to my apartment, I have her favorite drinks in my fridge and each cost than than 4 mil. It was maybe about 8 pm at this point. She played her favorite music, she danced, smoked (the cost is no more than 5 mil), we danced, and we chatted. We didn't actually start fucking until 9:20 PM. That is the GFE I got, and long foreplay. Haha. The sex continued until 12:05 AM that I blew my load. She left at 12:39 PM.
The girl that came last night at 8 PM. Again, I had her favorite drinks fully stocked and each costs less than 4 mil. Her favorite fruit is mango which I bought about 2 mil for the best quality and limon to go with it. Again it's the same. I doubt your experience will be better. For an average person, the girls in Medellin will hold back, especially the expensive popular ones. Elvis should be able to explain it to you. These girls do hold back but not anymore to get my business.
There is a report about Gusto regular recently. If you look at the conversation, the girl is bluffing and position herself that she is doing the man a favor. I won't allow that. hehe. He probably could get more out of it if it's something he wanted.
Wow! Paulie I am so touched that you are concerned with my financial condition. WOW! Twitany, the concern is with your dishonesty and hypocrisy. You go on and on about how even a janitor should retire with a "great fortune" while you yourself live in a rented fan cooled apartment in a mid-range Medellin neighbor, have no car, no driver on retainer, etc. If you are going to lie use what bit of brain you might have left and try to not to get caught in inconsistencies.
So answer me this Paulie. You claim to have a "higher degree" but we all know that every University that offers Masters or Doctoral programs refers to them as Advanced Degree programs. So answer me this Twitainy, why is it that the John A. Paulson School of Engineering at Harvard has a "Committee on Higher Degrees?
https://seas.harvard.edu/office-academic-programs/graduate-policies-procedures-and-forms/committee-higher-degrees
https://gc.seas.harvard.edu/committee-higher-degrees
That took all of two minutes, and is one of many examples. The terms are interchangeable.
But putting that aside for the moment. How is it that you have a "higher degree" and couldn't find a decent paying job in the private sector? Were you too dumb or too lazy?? How could someone with a "higher degree" reach retirement age even as a State / Local government employee earning less than the statewide average? Most of those statewide average earners are in their 30's-40's. You had 20-30 years more experience and a "higher degree" and you couldn't even earn the statewide average? About 65 K a year is decent pay for a single man living in a lower cost of living area of Florida. I chose the career that involves the work I love, though we are among the lower paid professionals. "Success" is relative. In my field state employees often make more than like workers in the private sector.
I'll drop it there. Let's not even remind everyone about your lack of friends or your inability to get a date without paying for it. What do people say about you?With friends it's quality over quantity for me. You keep repeating that theme over and over like a disgruntled third grader as if it's some big gotcha, but it's from the start been a big flop.
I couldn't care less what any online monger thinks of me, as the same are completely irrelevant in my day to day life, and even my fun when on vacation. Over the last 20 years I've met some good guys, and quite a few self-absorbed, dishonest little twits like you. That goes with the territory. LOL.
You're still a repulsive late 60's grandpa to the young cuties, whether you think you have a date or not.
Elvis 2008
09-21-24, 18:23
I am not sure why you equate money with success and achievement. Anyone with money can get those girls that are eights (8) through tens (10) on your imaginary universal scale of worldwide beauty standards.When I was in Brazil, I saw tons of drunk American men with goofy grins taking babes into their rooms. Maybe if I had not been laid recently (kind of difficult in Brazil), I would have been jealous, but the emotion I felt was more disgust than anything. I said to myself that I hoped I did not look like those men.
Your boy Gabacho, the one talking shit about me, accused me of being jealous of him. I asked him jealous of what? And he did not respond.
If you do not know what makes other men jealous and you are saying pussy is pussy, everyone knows the type of women you are fucking. Insulting me does not change that.
WOW! Twitany, the concern is with your dishonesty and hypocrisy. You go on and on about how even a janitor should retire with a "great fortune" while you yourself live in a rented fan cooled apartment in a mid-range Medellin neighbor, have no car, no driver on retainer, etc. If you are going to lie use what bit of brain you might have left and try to not to get caught in inconsistencies.Paulie, I don't need to lie, I have nothing to prove. You however, seem to be very insecure and I can understand why. You couldn't get a job in the private sector you worked until retirement and couldn't even earn the average for your state. I can understand why you are so sensitive. Oh and to correct you yet again. I didn't say a janitor should retire with a great fortune, I said even a janitor could retire with a sizable savings, all it would take is a little bit of discipline and self-control. Traits which it appears you never managed to accumulate.
What makes you think I live in a fan cooled apartment in a mid-range Medellin neighborhood? I actually life in a great location, probably one of the nicest areas outside of Poblado. Reminds me of when I was staying in Hotel Dorado and you used to say it was a dive on la 70. As usual you never know what you are talking about.
So answer me this Twitainy, why is it that the John A. Paulson School of Engineering at Harvard has a "Committee on Higher Degrees?
That took all of two minutes, and is one of many examples. The terms are interchangeable.So the Harvard Engineering school has a Committe on Higher Degrees? Wow! That is a clincher. Did you go to Harvard? I didn't think so. What does every other university call their graduate school programs? Let me help you out. Advanced Degrees. If you had one you would know that.
About 65 K a year is decent pay for a single man living in a lower cost of living area of Florida. I chose the career that involves the work I love, though we are among the lower paid professionals. "Success" is relative. In my field state employees often make more than like workers in the private sector.A field you love? 65 K a year? Sheesh Paulie, most of the college graduates with a bachelors degree in business earn more than that coming out of college.
You were earning only 65 K at retirement? Perhaps you should have learned a trade. I'm sure apprentice plumbers or electricians earn more than that. Dramatically more if they have 10+ years experience.
With friends it's quality over quantity for me. You keep repeating that theme over and over like a disgruntled third grader as if it's some big gotcha, but it's from the start been a big flop.How would you know Paulie? You don't have any friends. Oh wait, you said you have 2. Hahahahaha. No wonder you write people on the board asking to meet up for drinks. You accomplished nothing with your life. You weren't able to earn even an average salary. You have no friends. Does it really surprise you that people don't want to meet up with you? And ignore your pleas?
I couldn't care less what any online monger thinks of me, as the same are completely irrelevant in my day to day life, and even my fun when on vacation. Over the last 20 years I've met some good guys, and quite a few self-absorbed, dishonest little twits like you. That goes with the territory. LOL.
You're still a repulsive late 60's grandpa to the young cuties, whether you think you have a date or not.No Paulie you keep trying to attack me to maybe impress Elvis so that he might befriend you and treat you like an equal. How is that working out for you? Elvis and I don't see eye to eye on any issue. But I doubt he has any respect for you, Almost everyone here who has read your posts knows you are a loser.
Oh and by the way I can get dates with women here in Medellin without having to pay. How about you Paulie? When was the last time someone wanted to spend time with you without compensation?
I picked up my date at 7 Pm. She loves Chinese so we went to her favorite place to get some food to go for 70 mil. This can last several meals BTW. We went back to my apartment, I have her favorite drinks in my fridge and each cost than than 4 mil. It was maybe about 8 pm at this point. She played her favorite music, she danced, smoked (the cost is no more than 5 mil), we danced, and we chatted. We didn't actually start fucking until 9:20 PM. That is the GFE I got, and long foreplay. Haha. The sex continued until 12:05 AM. She left at 12:39 PM.
If the girl stays overnight, I go out to the best local bakery in the morning to buy fresh breads. The cost is less than 10 mil. On my way back, if I see flower vendor, i buy 2 mil of fresh flowers. I want to learn from you how you get it better by spending much more?
The girl that came last night at 8 PM. Again, I had her favorite drinks fully stocked and each costs less than 4 mil. Her favorite fruit is mango which I bought about 2 mil for the best quality and limon to go with it. Again it's more or less the same but she left early because she was preoccupied about a friend which I knew before hand because I also had sex with this civilian friend just a few days ago. Civilian usually is the best because you get a better GFE as they don't understand "working" yet. I want to know if your experience is better and how? For an average person, the girls in Medellin will hold back, especially the expensive popular ones. Elvis should be able to explain it to you. These girls do hold back but not anymore after some "talks".
There is a report about Gusto regular recently. If you look at the conversation, the girl is bluffing and position herself that she is doing the man a favor. He probably could get more out of it if it's something he wanted.
Maybe because my goal is not to argue or win an argumentYour dates seem very very basic, like your goal is to spend as little as possible, so that your funds last longer. I would assume you stay there for extended periods of time, so you can't afford to splurge every day, so you limit your expenses to 2 mil mangos and 4 mil local version of Smirnoffs. Some dudes live off of SSI or some other relatively small income, I get it. It all comes down to the question of affordability. Some rent $100 shacks, others rent $3-$5 k penthouses in Poblado. Some fly cattle, others always fly business or first. We all roll according to what we can comfortably afford. But what puzzles me is your inability to think of other ways or ideas of dates. Do you really think that what you described is an ideal date for you or anyone else? Chinese takeout, some smirnoffs and a joint at home? Fresh bread in the morning? Do you really feel like what you described CAN'T get any better? If so, I feel bad for you bro. Either you know about others things you can spend money on but can't afford them, or you simply never experienced anything better than what you described. Would you prefer to wake up with a Victoria secret model in a 4 seasons suite or wake up with a whale in a $100/ month shack? This is a very extreme comparison but I hope you got my point. Everything we want or desire in life comes with a cost.
When describing those two dates you had, you didn't even mention the girls' looks. Maybe you don't use the 1-10 scale, or maybe you think pussy is pussy and you don't care as long as she does what you want in bed. I would assume they were two poor, average looking (at best) barrio girls, that have no idea of what a proper date should be like, because all they have been doing on dates is fucking, smoking weed and drinking Four Locos.
Nounce your experiences are similar to mine whenever I entertain in my residence in Medellin. But the most important part is that you use methods that work for you to get what you want. No statements about how you are doing better than everyone else. No statements that you ARE better than everyone else because of how you do things. I appreciate that you gave an actual example of your activities instead of all of the keyboard beating that goes on about how they do things (hottest girls in Medellin, 8 - 10's only, hamburger, seafood, steak).
I am hiring a prostitute not going to a restaurant To me the restaurant analogy fails in that you can have a dining experience that has wonderful service but you don't like the dish that you picked or how it was prepared. Some individuals act is if high payments ensure solid performance when we all know that is not true. In my opinion there is / are certain individual (s) have just been put in check. Holla!.
How you like me now?You can stay home and jerk off. Why bother hiring someone? Can save yourself a few bucks.
Elvis 2008
09-22-24, 00:12
I picked up my date at 7 Pm. She loves Chinese so we went to her favorite place to get some food to go for 70 mil. This can last several meals BTW. We went back to my apartment, I have her favorite drinks in my fridge and each cost than than 4 mil. It was maybe about 8 pm at this point. She played her favorite music, she danced, smoked (the cost is no more than 5 mil), we danced, and we chatted. We didn't actually start fucking until 9:20 PM. That is the GFE I got, and long foreplay. Haha. The sex continued until 12:05 AM. She left at 12:39 PM.
If the girl stays overnight, I go out to the best local bakery in the morning to buy fresh breads. The cost is less than 10 mil. On my way back, if I see flower vendor, i buy 2 mil of fresh flowers. I want to learn from you how you get it better by spending much more?Nounce, those kind of things are great for a woman you know. MB said what he is looking for is what Manizales has who is paying two stunning women $250 a month apiece who treat him like a king, and my impression is he is not there yet. It will be more $ in Medellin, but the first part is finding the women and the second part is testing them out before you go to a monthly model.
The goal is to find the 8-10 woman in looks, sexual performance and then the intangibles like personality and character, and that takes time to assess.
The whole money thing was close to the last of my concerns when looking. I know it is more now, but the most I paid was $140 which was nothing compared to airfare and hotel. Time was more valuable than money when I was looking. But the biggest cost was emotional: being led on, stood up, taken advantage of, being disappointed, uncertain if the women liked you for only money and seeing that was true ETC. Thing is the best looking women IMO have a lot of mental issues (bipolar, OCD, ADD, borderline, narcissism) than the less attractive women and if you cannot pick that shit out, you are going to burned.
So when some rando comes along and thinks that if he just paid a few extra $ to have what I have or equates going to El Centro with what I did, they do not know what the fuck they are talking about. I searched the whole country and paid with money, time, and emotion over a long time, and the money was the easiest part. These assholes are paying $20 and are using the same thought process that goes into buying a cheeseburger.
So spend the time, money, and emotional costs and get the best women or STFU. It is not the same thing.
You are not going to catch any women unless you do something to attract them. I have said displaying wealth while not giving money and interviewing women with probing questions is what worked best for me, but that might not work for someone else. If MB has to offer up cash to attract women, then so be it. If you cannot get the attention of the women, you are never going to land one. Once you land a woman, giving gifts to keep her loyal is a great strategy but if you give gifts to a strange woman, a lot of women will not appreciate it and try to get more free shit.
You can stay home and jerk off. Why bother hiring someone? Can save yourself a few bucks.Why would I want to do that?
I am enjoying my life. Are you enjoying yours?
Why do you equate money with happiness?
Have you always had money? Born with a silver spoon up your ass? Some of us have had to work to earn our money. In that process we have learned to have a good life with what we have. Right now in my life I have no car. I live in the smallest space I have ever lived in my life. I spend the least amount on my fixed expenses as I ever have. I have EVERYTHING that I need! I spend 10 times the amount of money on the important people in my life than I spend on myself. And I am the happiest I have ever been in my life.
I am at peace with myself and all others!
Nounce,
I read your post and it looks to me like you are living the life. Isn't funny how everyone has their different perceptions and priorities. But none of the people being critical of you have any perspective. Individuals are giving your advice on how to catch a girl when you seem to be doing just fine on your own.
My display of wealth is my time. A girl does not see me work unless she is close to me. Yet, I pay for my life, take her to nice places and act as if money is no object. Because when I go on a date it isn't. If it is I don't go on the date. After the relationship is established I am generous.
Once you land a woman, giving gifts to keep her loyal is a great strategy but if you give gifts to a strange woman, a lot of women will not appreciate it and try to get more free shit.Well look at this. I've been doing what our relationship guru is suggesting most of my adult life. LOL. We are ALL very lucky to have him among us.
Problem is: These hos ain't loyal. Just one of the many reasons I say Pussy is Pussy!
Given that the 8 to 10 types are inundated with narcissists trying to go out with them, you probably are best staying with the 6's. The high character 8 to 10's will avoid you, and the low character 8 to 10's will fleece you.You are the one getting fleeced E2008. You are paying your Colombian girls amounts of money no Colombian man would pay. And you are fucking Colombian girls no Colombian man of status would even bother with. Your problem is that as an International Trick you don't know it.
When I was in Brazil, I saw tons of drunk American men with goofy grins taking babes into their rooms. Maybe if I had not been laid recently (kind of difficult in Brazil), I would have been jealous, but the emotion I felt was more disgust than anything. I said to myself that I hoped I did not look like those men.Yep, E2008 is a feminist at heart using words like: misogyny to describe my Pussy is Pussy philosophy.
Don't ever give a general example and try to compare your example to me or the Gman. You don't know me and you are afraid to meet me. Not because of any possibility of physical danger. I am long past those days. It is because I will shatter you world view of what you think people like me are.
Nobody cares what you think of them E2008. You get massive push back in every thread that you post. There has been complete silence on the Colombian Vice President security issue. You are just left with your opinions because you are hanging your hat on the idea that you are better than anyone else because of the type of girl you bed. You will never find me defining myself based on outside factors in front of a bunch people I don't know on a obscure web site that shares information on having sex with girls.
Do you really feel like what you described CAN'T get any better?Below is what I said, and I mean it.
I want to learn from you how you get it better by spending much more?You are unable to stick to the discussion while complaining about attack from others.
For 70 mil, I ordered 2 main dishes the girl liked even she only needed one to be happy. I have the freedom that I don't even need to think about it. Imaging you go to a restaurant and the girl likes the second dish that costs more than 100 USD, if you can afford it and is in your league, good for you. If not, that is not very smart with money. I checked the median income in Florida, even if you live in the zip code of the highest median income, it is not high enough.
When describing those two dates you had, you didn't even mention the girls' looks. Maybe you don't use the 1-10 scale, or maybe you think pussy is pussy and you don't care as long as she does what you want in bed.
It's like investment. I look for investment with good return regardless the amount. You seem to only care about how much you put in and does not care much about what you get back. We are just different.
Explorer8939
09-22-24, 16:27
Some initial impressions of Medellin:
Wow, that's a long tunnel between the airport and the city!
Medellin is big - 6 million people. And nestled between mountains. I'm in Poblado, which would be very upscale in Mexico. Because the city is located on hillsides, the streets are a mess, narrow and mostly uphill or downhill.
Taxis are cheap, and Uber is convenient.
There doesn't seem to be one bar area, they are scattered around the city.
The weather is similar to Kunming, China spring-like all year. I don't use the air conditioner.
Paulie, I don't need to lie, I have nothing to prove.Sure you do. You are so terrified of losing the few "friends" you think you have in the ISG audience that you are on my posts doing damage control the moment they pass the screener. You're in here lying saying you are traveling the world staying in luxury hotels. You claim to have a "great fortune," but have been in Medellin over four years now and are still paying rent, and in a mid-range area, don't have a car or a driver on retainer, and are cabbing it everywhere. Why did you miss the lay up? You're fucking full of shit. LOL.
You couldn't get a job in the private sector you worked until retirement and couldn't even earn the average for your state.You simply chose to ignore what you read and and repeat the same misinformation again. I didn't choose my career for money, but for the love of it and out of a sense of calling. I'm comfortably retired in Florida and have no regrets. I couldn't care less what a guy retired living in a rented apartment in a mid range neighborhood the 3rd World with no car thinks of my salary. LOL.
Reminds me of when I was staying in Hotel Dorado and you used to say it was a dive on la 70. You're lying yet again, even after being repeatedly corrected. I said the place was basic and accessible for $30 a night, and at the time it was. Seems you were in there about two years. Must have been some cash flow problems.
So the Harvard Engineering school has a Committe on Higher Degrees? Wow! That is a clincher. Did you go to Harvard? I didn't think so. What does every other university call their graduate school programs? Let me help you out. Advanced Degrees. If you had one you would know that. Way to move the goalposts. First it was every school calls degrees above bachelor's degrees advanced degrees rather than higher degrees, now it's every school but Harvard. Keep going. There's more. The terms are interchangeable. So since I didn't go to Harvard, and didn't say "advanced degrees" that proves I don't have one. ROFL That kind of twitish, infantile reasoning doesn't deserve a response but thought I'd indulge.
Oh and by the way I can get dates with women here in Medellin without having to pay.I'm sure everyone here is very impressed by this, and the 50 year old hotel maids you were able to corral while camped out at the El Dorado. Nonetheless, to the young cuties you're the repulsive grandpa, and yes even in Colombia. Here's some free advice. Stop coming in here playing spelling police, calling black guys subhuman, bickering talking about your "jizz" and "sloppy seconds," and just act your age with some dignity. Let it all flow from there, then you won't have such a need to come here pretending like you're very intelligent, rich, and physically attractive. Be who you are, and your own best friend. You'll find that very liberating.
Roll the credits.
The goal is to find the 8-10 woman in looks, sexual performance and then the intangibles like personality and character, and that takes time to assess.
The whole money thing was close to the last of my concerns when looking. I know it is more now, but the most I paid was $140 which was nothing compared to airfare and hotel. Time was more valuable than money when I was looking. But the biggest cost was emotional: being led on, stood up, taken advantage of, being disappointed, uncertain if the women liked you for only money and seeing that was true ETC. Thing is the best looking women IMO have a lot of mental issues (bipolar, OCD, ADD, borderline, narcissism) than the less attractive women and if you cannot pick that shit out, you are going to burned.
You are not going to catch any women unless you do something to attract them. I have said displaying wealth while not giving money and interviewing women with probing questions is what worked best for me, but that might not work for someone else. If MB has to offer up cash to attract women, then so be it. If you cannot get the attention of the women, you are never going to land one. Once you land a woman, giving gifts to keep her loyal is a great strategy but if you give gifts to a strange woman, a lot of women will not appreciate it and try to get more free shit.I just have one question for you Elvis. No it isn't a veiled attack, it is an honest question. How did language play a part in your prospecting and ultimate discovery of the woman you wanted as a partner?
I ask because I have worked on my Spanish since moving here years ago and I found that at the outset it was hard to arrange dates (not p-4-p dates, those were easy) but once I improved my Spanish so that I could have solid conversations I had little trouble making dates.
Sure you do. You are so terrified of losing the few "friends" you think you have in the ISG audience that you are on my posts doing damage control the moment they pass the screener.Hahaha says the man with 2 friends.
You're in here lying saying you are traveling the world staying in luxury hotels. You claim to have a "great fortune," but have been in Medellin over four years now and are still paying rent, and in a mid-range area, don't have a car or a driver on retainer, and are cabbing it everywhere. Why did you miss the lay up? You're fucking full of shit. LOL.I think I said I take a trip once or twice a year, usually to a place of historical interest.
I didn't choose my career for money, but for the love of it and out of a sense of calling.I'm comfortably retired in Florida and have no regrets. I couldn't care less what a guy retired living in a rented apartment in a mid range neighborhood the 3rd World with no car thinks of my salary. Yes of course. What was your calling? Sweeping floors? Security? Emptying garbage? I we all see that you are sensitive about your lack of success.
You're lying yet again, even after being repeatedly corrected. I said the place was basic and accessible for $30 a night, and at the time it was. Seems you were in there about two years. Must have been some cash flow problems.That isn't what you said then and your new version is still wrong. Dorado has different classes of rooms. Some are internal without windows and only 1 bed without much space. Yes those could have been rented for $30 a night once upon a time. My room was a double with two queen beds and a balcony, and a lot of space.
Way to move the goalposts. First it was every school calls degrees above bachelor's degrees advanced degrees rather than higher degrees, now it's every school but Harvard. Keep going. There's more. The terms are interchangeable. So since I didn't go to Harvard, and didn't say "advanced degrees" that proves I don't have one. ROFL That kind of twitish, infantile reasoning doesn't deserve a response but thought I'd indulge.Right, of course. SO why don't you tell us about your "higher degree" in a field you love that doesn't even pay an average salary after having worked in the field for 30 years.
This I have to see. BTW mine was an MBA from City College in NY. Just so you don't think I am as ashamed as you seem to be to talk about it.
I'm sure everyone here is very impressed by this, and the 50 year old hotel maids you were able to corral while camped out at the El Dorado.
Roll the credits.Well Paulie you really got me there. BTW when was the last time you had a date that didn't demand a payment? OK wait I know. It was the hooker you were drinking with and who drugged you and cleaned you out. Maybe you should have been trying to find a girl who didn't identify you as a "sucker".
Below is what I said, and I mean it.
You are unable to stick to the discussion while complaining about attack from others.
For 70 mil, I ordered 2 main dishes the girl liked even she only needed one to be happy. I have the freedom that I don't even need to think about it. Imaging you go to a restaurant and the girl likes the second dish that costs more than 100 USD, if you can afford it and is in your league, good for you. If not, that is not very smart with money. I checked the median income in Florida, even if you live in the zip code of the highest median income, it is not high enough.
It's like investment. I look for investment with good return regardless the amount. You seem to only care about how much you put in and does not care much about what you get back. We are just different.Again, you are talking about affordability. You can order 70 mil meal and not think twice about it, because you can afford it. $100 dish might be a different story. If one is broke, it would be stupid to go to a high end restaurant where a single dish can cost over 100 usd. Or book a first class flight when you literally live paycheck to paycheck. You basically confirm what I just said in the prior post.
You are saying I don't care about what I get back. If you read my recent response to Elvis, I said my goal was to have a great time with the hottest and nicest women I can possibly get with the limited resources that I have. Obviously, I do care about what I get back. But my goal is not to save money or spend as little as possible. I spend what I can afford. 2 mil mangos and 4 mil canned drinks at my place with an average looking girl is far from an ideal / memorable date. Yeah, you spend next to nothing and get laid, maybe this "investment" is considered great, but at the same time, you get what you pay for.
Elvis 2008
09-22-24, 23:08
No Paulie you keep trying to attack me to maybe impress Elvis so that he might befriend you and treat you like an equal. How is that working out for you? Elvis and I don't see eye to eye on any issue. But I doubt he has any respect for you, Almost everyone here who has read your posts knows you are a loser.
Oh and by the way I can get dates with women here in Medellin without having to pay. Do you keep bringing my name back into things to judge? Okay, fine, let's start with the above. I said that American men could date Colombian women without paying and you agreed with me. Now you say we are agree on nothing. Score one for Paulie.
I do not see eye to eye with either of you on Covid or politics. No difference.
On education, you seem to be under the impression that being educated and intelligent are the same. IMO they are not. Some of the smartest things I have ever heard have come from uneducated black men. To me, this is like a negative two. Why do you go on about being educated when you cannot remember what you said yesterday? Whatever you learned in school seems to be gone now, so I would shut up about your degree and worry a little about being smart versus claiming you are.
On friends, the goal should be having friends that lift you up. If they drag you down, that is a negative, and you are better off being alone. So when JJBee says guys here cannot date above a strata 4 girl, he is no one I would want as a friend. My friends help me reach my goals not tell me they are not possible. And why he is saying that? Because he cannot handle someone doing better than him.
You, Paulie, and JJBee have repeated the line of where most of the women guys here see come from. And what did I say? That is not true of the women I see. They are not from the areas you guys mentioned. Paulie says he that he does not get the big deal about seeing hot women. The hot women he has been with were not that great in bed. Not only do I agree with him, I think it is likely he has frequented the hotties as that is true. With hot women, they often can get by on just their looks and many think just showing up should make a guy happy.
With you, there is the line, I might have fucked your girl when she was younger Elvis. You fucked women in the slums, and she is as far from the slums as you can get. What this line shows is you are just dripping with insecurity. This is horrible, a negative five.
I do not care about you two fighting. Honestly, it bores me and I suspect it bores others here and it makes you both look badly, but V, it makes you look even worse.
What does every other university call their graduate school programs?...Advanced Degrees. Of course you don't know what every university besides Harvard on the planet does. Many tend to just call these graduate degrees. That's how it was back in my day. "Higher degrees" is also used at times within descriptions. Harvard's terminology didn't form in a vaccum. Your error is in assigning exclusivity which leads to fallacious conclusions, as was seen on other subjects. In this case, it's "you either describe the degree this way or you don't have a masters. " It's especially funny typing this as I look at what hangs on the wall above my computer desk. LOL This nonsense has been going on near a month, and it's definitely time to wrap it up.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/False-Dilemma
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Non-Sequitur
BTW mine was an MBA from City College in NY. I thought it was New Mexico St, where you moved onto your career in a strip mall thrifty loan center, but you are now living in the 3rd World and after four years are still paying rent in your favorite mid range area of Laureles, and can't afford a home. You not only lied about your "great fortune," but years ago you lied and said you "almost" bought an apartment in El Poblado but needed to avoid the hills. We all know you are lazy and out of shape, and four years later still without the coin to buy a place. You can't even afford a vehicle or to set up a driver in one. Too bad as there's some beautiful SUVs down there for sale. But instead you are riding in taxis everywhere, no ac and smelling BO. I won't be looking for you on any notable alumni lists. LOL.
P.S. Glad to see that you finally agree that a master's degree can be legitimately described a number ways, including as a higher degree, a graduate degree, as well an advanced degree. Yet another gotcha nothing burger evaporates.
Mr Enternational
09-23-24, 14:38
Again, you are talking about affordability. You can order 70 mil meal and not think twice about it, because you can afford it. $100 dish might be a different story. If one is broke, it would be stupid to go to a high end restaurant where a single dish can cost over 100 usd. Or book a first class flight when you literally live paycheck to paycheck. You basically confirm what I just said in the prior post.
You are saying I don't care about what I get back. If you read my recent response to Elvis, I said my goal was to have a great time with the hottest and nicest women I can possibly get with the limited resources that I have. Obviously, I do care about what I get back. But my goal is not to save money or spend as little as possible. I spend what I can afford. 2 mil mangos and 4 mil canned drinks at my place with an average looking girl is far from an ideal / memorable date. Yeah, you spend next to nothing and get laid, maybe this "investment" is considered great, but at the same time, you get what you pay for.I do not even think you understand what you are saying. YOU are not even confirming what you said! This guy went to Bogota and goes to a high end club. He spends all kind of money and you say he paid too much. Why didn't you say he got what he paid for? Afterall, according to him he had an ideal and memorable date and of course he was with a stunning 10 beauty queen since he paid more than you would have.
Was it your first time in Bogota? I can't believe you paid 680 mil to fuck on a small massage table and 800 mil for all covered service. Don't you negotiate at all? What puzzles me is that you seem to have a decent budget, but you don't get what you pay for. 150-200 USD in Bogota can easily get you a full GFE multiple hours service with a good looking girl (7. 5-8) in the comfort of your AirBnb.
Focus on semi-pros instead of hardened SF and club pros and you will get a much better experience.
Budget? I didn't have budget. 😂 I did what I wanted with who I wanted and paid what I wanted to get what I wanted. Absolut is a higher end place. It's more expensive. Like Vicky's and Lido. I met all the girls working and I picked the hottest one and I negotiated and that was what the price was. I don't regret it, but I wouldn't go back.
As for 800 for all night. That was the best money I spent. The girl is hot and she was very fun to hangout with. I don't regret it at all. Covered, uncovered, whatever. It was still GFE and I had a great time with her for 8+ hours (lap dances, outfit changes, massages, dinner, playing games at a bar, and somehow I managed to finish 3 times even though she was the 9th girl I was with in 3 days).
I do not care about you two fighting. Honestly, it bores me and I suspect it bores others here and it makes you both look badly, but V, it makes you look even worse.I have to agree, especially since it's been weeks since we covered any new ground. Yesterday I was out at the beach, fresh caught fried coconut shrimp, listening to the waves roll in and shooting the breeze with tourists. Today I return.
Of course you don't know what every university besides Harvard on the planet does. Many tend to just call these graduate degrees. That's how it was back in my day. "Higher degrees" is also used at times within descriptions. Harvard's terminology didn't form in a vaccum. Your error is in assigning exclusivity which leads to fallacious conclusions, as was seen on other subjects. In this case, it's "you either describe the degree this way or you don't have a masters. " It's especially funny typing this as I look at what hangs on the wall above my computer desk. LOL This nonsense has been going on near a month, and it's definitely time to wrap it up.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/False-Dilemma
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Non-SequiturHere Paulie, let me help you out. Instead of taking a few words out of context, why don't you just look.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/advanced%20degree
https://www.umassglobal.edu/news-and-events/blog/should-i-get-an-advanced-degree
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-6-part-f-chapter-5
https://www.mtu.edu/globalcampus/online-grad-students/advanced-degrees/
There are several thousand more references / definitions etc. Or you can just be a Paulie and take two words out of context and try to rationalize your ignorance.
BTW I really am curious what type of advanced degree prepared you for a career where your ultimate salary after years of education and experience didn't even reach the level of an average salary. Be.
I thought it was New Mexico St, where you moved onto your career in a strip mall thrifty loan center, but you are now living in the 3rd World and after four years are still paying rent in your favorite mid range area of Laureles, and can't afford a home. You not only lied about your "great fortune," but years ago you lied and said you "almost" bought an apartment in El Poblado but needed to avoid the hills. We all know you are lazy and out of shape, and four years later still without the coin to buy a place. You can't even afford a vehicle or to set up a driver in one. Too bad as there's some beautiful SUVs down there for sale. But instead you are riding in taxis everywhere, no ac and smelling BO. I won't be looking for you on any notable alumni lists. LOL.
P.S. Glad to see that you finally agree that a master's degree can be legitimately described a number ways, including as a higher degree, a graduate degree, as well an advanced degree. Yet another gotcha nothing burger evaporates.New Mexico State? Where did you come up with that one?
You are making fun of living in the Parque Laureles area which begs the question do you even know Medellin at all? You said you lived in a low income area of Florida which makes sense for an underachiever. I think it is likely I pay a higher amount in rent than you do Paulie. BTW who would own a car in Medellin? Where would I drive it? Cabs and private cars (DiDi, InDriver and Uber) are all very inexpensive, and safe. Why would anyone want to own a car in a foreign city?
And as to the rest of your personal attacks. Well Paulie, I am not the one with only 2 friends and can only get a date by paying girls to go out.
I do not even think you understand what you are saying. YOU are not even confirming what you said! This guy went to Bogota and goes to a high end club. He spends all kind of money and you say he paid too much. Why didn't you say he got what he paid for? Afterall, according to him he had an ideal and memorable date and of course he was with a stunning 10 beauty queen since he paid more than you would have.Who said he was with a stunning 10 beauty queen? You can't find an 8 in SF, let alone 9's and 10's. The pics he posted are just two average working girls asses.
This guy contradicts himself. Says everything was covered but still GFE. Are you fucking kidding me? GFE means girlfriend experience. Does your girlfriend suck you off with a condom on? GTFO.
He said he went to a high end club / spa, admitted that he overpaid and said he wouldn't come back. Then proceeds to tell he got what he paid for. LOL.
Then he said the girls they met at California were trying to upsell their services once they got to their rooms, and it was a turn off.
I suggested to focus on semi pros (and not even non pros, because they are even more difficult to find), he said he is not wasting time finding semi pros, then proceeds to tell that he had the best time of his trip with a non pro.
His whole trip was a hit or miss from what I'm reading. Once I pointed out he could do better, he got offended and proceed to tell me that it was a perfect trip lol.
You are making fun of living in the Parque Laureles area Regardless of the location you've been a renter for four years, even taking you two years to get off the daily rent plan at a middling hotel. He blew the lay up people. Keep moving as there's no "great fortune" here. LOL.
You said you lived in a low income area of Florida I said "lower cost of living part of Florida," ie. Not South Florida. We still have a lot of fun up here.
BTW who would own a car in Medellin? It's for transporation and luxury, highest safety for a guy who claims to have a "great fortune. " A guy with a great fortune should want that, and probably a driver on retainer as well. But you've already told us that your go to transportation is taxis which = no ac smelly BO and not as safe.
You lie so constantly that I also doubt the City University of NY claim, but that doesn't matter nor does my education. My arguments stand on their merits regardless of who I am. Where did this all start?
You were comprehensively impaled here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3946-Stupid-shit-in-Medellin&p=2942574#post2942574.
You not only were completely destroyed on your claim that I was actively trying to meet up with you early this year, you fumbled all over yourself denying what you repeatedly read and confirmed just a few days prior. And this just after attacking fellow seniors accusing them of dementia. It was the worst disaster I've ever seen in a flame war, talk about instant karma.
Then again here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3946-Stupid-shit-in-Medellin&p=2943695#post2943695.
Not only were you forced to back off of putting words in my mouth, and your claim that I said I worked for minimum wage, you are now in here mocking me for making three times that amount. ROFL That works, mission accomplished.
You are a weasel and a habitual liar. No wonder you've been driven down to the 3rd World, but the last two weeks have been just a desperate attempt for you to come up with some kind of face saving, ie. "you got drugged seven years ago, you don't have any friends, nobody here likes you" LOL You tell me I'm broke while you are so negligent as to brag about a "great fortune" while living for four years as a renter in the 3rd World, no vehicle, no driver or personal assistant, and with cabs as your go to transportation. Whatever man, you've been done for two weeks. And now we're done.
Mr Enternational
09-23-24, 22:43
Who said he was with a stunning 10 beauty queen?The price he paid said it. Didn't you say that you get what you pay for? He paid more than you so his girls must have looked better than yours. The same way you say people that pay less than you and take women home to eat fruit and watch movies instead of wining and dining them are with hideous chicks.
Elvis 2008
09-24-24, 01:07
I just have one question for you Elvis. No it isn't a veiled attack, it is an honest question. How did language play a part in your prospecting and ultimate discovery of the woman you wanted as a partner?If you go on the street with a phone with google translate, you are not going to get anywhere because it is a pain in the ass to have a conversation: the noise, the shitty internet connection, the potential of theft of the phones. One thing you guys never got with seeking was that it was not an escort service. It facilitates meetings and gives women incentive to have conversations. So instead of meeting in some shithole hotel, the place is nice. It is quiet. I have on a suit. You are putting yourself out as a man of wealth and the women have incentives to have conversations. I wanted the feeling of a job interview because it some ways that is what it was. I could not believe how many women had problems with a program as simple as google translate but a lot did. Usually if they were not good with that, they were not good in general. Anyway, when you are in a quiet place with a good wi fi connection, you can easily have a good conversation with GT. The speed is adequate.
Moving on, the next part is nonverbal. You have to prove you are not of excessive cost with stupidity. When you walk into my hotel, do you fit in or are you going to look like a hooker and the manager is calling about a guest fee? Can you get through customs into Mexico on your own or am I going to have to fly to Colombia and accompany you or eat the cost of a ticket? Even if you passed that test, you are still an expense.
And partner huh? LOL. Maybe you are not so clueless after all. Partnership means you are making your life easier on me not harder right? Women are masters at telling you what you want to hear so words should not mean much to a guy, so from my POV, language was not an issue. The actions are what matter. I told my gal to have the hotel send a fax for me. You might not think that is a big deal but I bet with half of the women I saw I would have to take over and do the task myself. She handled it easily.
Of course, I gave her more and more tasks, and she aced them all. If she cannot do it, she will turn to her large circle of friends for help or advice. Things that may take guys here weeks to do she can get done in hours.
JohnnieCash
09-24-24, 14:26
Women are masters at telling you what you want to hear so words should not mean much to a guy... The actions are what matter..Nice nugget of wisdom here that I completely agree with.
(I do enjoy the live-no-delay-conversations though and GT-based relationship just doesn't do it for me, too much hassle, too much time wasted on confusion, unwrapping the meaning, mistranslations, simply not practical nor enjoyable long term, which is why I've invested time and effort in learning Spanish and do not regret it one bit).
Again, you are talking about affordability. You can order 70 mil meal and not think twice about it, because you can afford it. $100 dish might be a different story. If one is broke, it would be stupid to go to a high end restaurant where a single dish can cost over 100 usd. Or book a first class flight when you literally live paycheck to paycheck. You basically confirm what I just said in the prior post.
You are saying I don't care about what I get back. If you read my recent response to Elvis, I said my goal was to have a great time with the hottest and nicest women I can possibly get with the limited resources that I have. Obviously, I do care about what I get back. But my goal is not to save money or spend as little as possible. I spend what I can afford. 2 mil mangos and 4 mil canned drinks at my place with an average looking girl is far from an ideal / memorable date. Yeah, you spend next to nothing and get laid, maybe this "investment" is considered great, but at the same time, you get what you pay for.Everything you said is basically describing you. You missed the fact that I got what the girls like regardless the cost, and it happened to just cost less. You see everything thru the price one pays, the result comes secondary to you.
You still can't describe how you get better sex by paying much more. I want to learn from you.
Regardless of the location you've been a renter for four years, even taking you two years to get off the daily rent plan at a middling hotel. He blew the lay up people. Keep moving as there's no "great fortune" here. LOL.Yeah, your ignorance knows no bounds. I considered buying a place during the "CoVid" times in 2020 because there were some serious bargains. I rejected the idea for the most basic of reasons. It would have been a silly thing to do. Colombia doesn't have an active mortgage market like the US or Europe. Banks lend on properties with a substantial down payment and at very high interest rates. Not the issue that stopped me, since I would have paid cash. But if you had ever studied finance you would know the question to ask.
What would I do if I wanted to sell the property later? You see, Paulie, buying is easy, it is the selling part that is difficult. It isn't like the US where you list the property and voila! You sell it. There is a very limited market for residential real estate here and properties in the $200 thousand dollar range ($800 million COP) are not so easy to sell. What about decades later when I expire? How would I bequeath the property? If I were married to a Colombian that might have made for a different decision.
I am not surprised that you think that being a renter is a sign of financial weakness. But of course you don't understand simple financial principles and you don't understand Colombia.
I said "lower cost of living part of Florida," ie. Not South Florida. We still have a lot of fun up here.Yeah, low income area vs. Lower cost of living part of Florida. Now that is a distinction without difference if there ever was one. You live in a poor area, own it.
It's for transporation and luxury, highest safety for a guy who claims to have a "great fortune. " A guy with a great fortune should want that, and probably a driver on retainer as well. But you've already told us that your go to transportation is taxis which = no ac smelly BO and not as safe.Like other fabrications you propagate, I think I said I was well-off after years of working, saving and investing. A great fortune? I wouldn't say that, but compared to you? Almost certainly.
I don't see much use for owning a car. It would be a vanity purchase without compensating utility. Sounds like the kind of decision of a person desperate to impress people would make.
You lie so constantly that I also doubt the City University of NY claim, but that doesn't matter nor does my education. My arguments stand on their merits regardless of who I am. You know, Paulie, like before, if you want to make a bet that you will pay when you lose, I would be happy to find my graduate degree records and documentation and we can have an independent person determine the winner of the bet.
You like to call everyone you disagree with a "liar" but I don't think you even know what the word means. Fine. I could call you a liar for all your distortions but I don't. You know why? I think you suffer from dementia. I am pretty sure that is why you misremember everything that you said or that others said.
Remember this one?
I said that you sent me several PM's offering to meet. You responded that I was lying that you only sent one at the beginning of CoVid. I then quoted one I still had from November of 2022. You said it was likely made up. Then you said it couldn't be proven, Then I offered to make a bet. Then you changed your tune again and said it sounded like you. Then you said yes you sent that one but were confused on the dates and it was the one during CoVid that you had previously referenced.
Of course, you altered the initial comment I made, to your own version "you said I was actively pursuing a meeting". I never said "actively".
You know you sent me several requests, I know it too. So either you are lying about it now or you have dementia and can't remember. I don't know which one it is but I don't really care. BTW I know that you asked several other people to meet for drinks also. Are they lying too?
Nounce, those kind of things are great for a woman you know. I was minding my own business in the living room. She danced toward me from the balcony and wrapped her arms around me followed with a kiss. She was taking selfie with my phone and tried to capture the video with me in it. She knew I won't send her the videos with me in it. She explained about the DJ and the places to me while watching the video.
Later, she started to play Salsa which is a change from the electronic dance music she always played. She taught me how to dance and I followed alone. She raised her head expecting me to kiss her. When we finished, she said she was going to take a shower and would come back to dance with me and some rico stuff that I did not get. I am her first and only gringo.
Because the foreplay is now very long, yes, I hoped the sex would start sooner, that was why I started to track time. The resulting observation is the foreplay did not eat into the other time because she stayed even longer.
I think you got my post so I am writing more to see if I see what you see. I was extremely attracted to one girl. The sex was great purely based on that. She could be dead, and the sex will still be good because the single-sided sexual attraction was so strong. It made me feel like a superman, and I was able to do things that I did not know I was capable of.
From reading messages elsewhere, I know she was popular in the sense that she was on todo list of many. Someone was paying her living expenses for many years too. What stopped them is that her reviews are lackluster, and the reviews are correct. Her attitude toward the customer is take it or leave it. Instead of lying, she would not say anything and she is always on time
I saw her so often that we spent a lot of time together and I was not interested in other girls because the sex with others just wasn't as good. She kind of just decided to move in with me for a short while. She would tell me she was going to see a customer when she went out, mostly regular. We talked a lot, so I know her very well. She has some issues and that is why I think she would ask me things like do you believe in God? By this point, sometimes I think she forgot about her job and will do things outside of her job description. When I mentioned any of it, she would be quiet, but she shut them down completely during sex. So, I learned to not mention anything happened during sex to her so I could still get them occasionally. I also learned not to push it so she wasn't aware of what she was doing and stopped. LOL. I remember so many details because they were scarce. That put me on another path to look for the same but with a girl who would give me back naturally. I look at different places and travelled to different cities wondering if I could find more. Now I have found more and better ones, like one would call me novio and said I can't replace her with someone else because I got her to show the feeling that she reserved for novio. It's not easy because it takes a lot of effort and money. This is the basis of what I am looking for.
Everything you said is basically describing you. You missed the fact that I got what the girls like regardless the cost, and it happened to just cost less. You see everything thru the price one pays, the result comes secondary to you.
You still can't describe how you get better sex by paying much more. I want to learn from you.You got what the girls like only because you pick the girls that don't know any better. Don't get me wrong, it is a great strategy for someone looking to save money and not looking for the best quality. But I can tell you, that in any major city pretty much anywhere in the world, you (by you I mean any monger who has a considerably wide age / looks gap with a girl) won't be able to fuck a true stunner for a can of beer and a joint. She simply won't fall for it.
As to your question about better sex, this is not just about sex, but rather experience as a whole. When I go out with a girl, this is not because it is required, but because we both want it. Picture yourself with a stunning lady wearing a nice evening dress and high heels, having dinner at a nice place, and everybody staring at her because she is so beautiful and you know she is yours for the night. Thats a great feeling that you don't experience staying home and watching TV. You have a nice meal, chat, maybe go to a bar after, have some drinks, dance. You build a rapport with her, which almost always leads to a better sex. Once you get to your hotel, the clothes are flying off, and the sex is so intense, because you have been eye fucking her all night long. Thats the memorable experience I'm talking about. I still remember all the awesome dates I had years ago, because they were that good. How many casa sessions do I remember? Or netflix and chill dates? Probably none. And yes, all the things that I talked about cost money. Nice hotel with a view cost money. High end restaurants, bars, etc. And obviously, a true stunner won't sell herself short.
Mr Enternational
09-25-24, 00:24
You got what the girls like only because you pick the girls that don't know any better. Don't get me wrong, it is a great strategy for someone looking to save money and not looking for the best quality. But I can tell you, that in any major city pretty much anywhere in the world, you (by you I mean any monger who has a considerably wide age / looks gap with a girl) won't be able to fuck a true stunner for a can of beer and a joint. She simply won't fall for it.LOL. So now the best quality hooker is one that requires you to spend a certain amount of money on her in addition to paying her an exorbitant amount. Incredible.
Some individuals are obsessed with the superficial items of life based on appearances. Someday they will grow up and learn what life is really about: Quality Relationships!
But this is a board about sharing information on having sex with girls. Those that still need to develop wisdom can be forgiven for being immersed in their perceptions while failing to have true perspective in life. I suspect just looking at the tone of the The Clown Car Crew their idea is:
I pay more money for my prostitutes than you do. Therefore they are more attractive. I have better experiences with them. The sex is better. And that makes me better than you. Furthermore that makes you (insert the favorite derogatory word of choice for the CCC member writing the post).
Nothing has me ROTFLMAO more than than this.
Furthermore they assume that every choice that a person makes is based on their personal economic circumstances. The ideas of spending less than they make has no appeal to them. I have traveled the globe and stayed in 5 star hotels in major cities in major counties and I have not paid a cent to do so. So, who is smarter? I have no desire to stay in a 5 star hotel at this point in my life. Especially if I am paying for it. To treat an ATF on a special occasion, yes. But it is better to have a girl like my ATF to says when I want to take her to a major mall to buy her something to say but is is so expensive, let me order something online that you like and pay for it for me.
Picture yourself with a stunning lady wearing a nice evening dress and high heels, having dinner at a nice place, and everybody staring at her because she is so beautiful and you know she is yours for the night.
Pure narcissism here! All of this occurs in the persons head.
You build a rapport with her, which almost always leads to a better sex.
You can only build rapport with a girl because you are spending money on her? What ever happened to personality and putting the best you forward for her to enjoy? While most individuals are having that nice dinner and spending that money the rapport she is seeking to build is with your wallet. Unfortunate that young men of today do not understand that.
I still remember all the awesome dates I had years ago, because they were that good.
I remember all the good sex I have had with girls. The sex was never related to how much money I spent on the girl before hand. LOL!.
And yes, all the things that I talked about cost money. Nice hotel with a view cost money. High end restaurants, bars, etc. And obviously, a true stunner won't sell herself short.
Well at least he realizes that he is tricking. Internationally or otherwise.
Now tell us, after all of the wonderful experiences you had, did the girl leave your nice hotel room with a view without any cash money in her hand?
Tell me yes, THEN I will be impressed!
LoveItHere69
09-25-24, 10:08
What would I do if I wanted to sell the property later? You see, Paulie, buying is easy, it is the selling part that is difficult.
I am not surprised that you think that being a renter is a sign of financial weakness. But of course you don't understand simple financial principles and you don't understand Colombia.
When you try to sell the buyer and seller realestate agent will work together to rip you off and split the proceeds. When you are ready to sell you will be in a far larger rush to sell than the speed you spent to buy. They know they have you in a time vise and they will squeeze you.
Have you been paying attention to the Colombian president? He is far left, Marxist, does not like Western countries, or capitalism. He or another president in the future may just outlaw foreigners owning property.
I knew a guy in Pattaya Thailand who bought a condo to live and invest in. 10 years later the Russians moved into the area. His condo is now worth half.
In the Philippines your new neighbor is a family of 9 (mom, dad, 3 boys, 2 girls, grandmother, grandfather). Another example is new neighbors move in and have barking dogs or 3 pet roosters you now get to hear every morning for hours on end. Or they have a videoake and sings songs all night everytime there is a holiday or birthday or just because.
My recommendation is to buy all the property you possible can.
I can tell you, that in any major city pretty much anywhere in the world, you (by you I mean any monger who has a considerably wide age / looks gap with a girl) won't be able to fuck a true stunner for a can of beer and a joint. She simply won't fall for it.Another shining example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
LOL. So now the best quality hooker is one that requires you to spend a certain amount of money on her in addition to paying her an exorbitant amount. Incredible.I said wining and dining is not required, unless you really want it. We are talking about different kind of girls. You are talking about hardened pros, be it Lleras, Centro, Mileroticos or whatever. Why would I wine and dine a Lleras hoe? She is not worth it. And she is not best quality, because street girls are the bottom of the barrel. I hire her to bust a quick nut and move on. Not interested in getting to know her and spending a night with her. Therefore it makes no sense to spend more on top of what we agreed on. The girls I'm taking about are semi pros / sugar babies / non pros, the ones I want to repeat with and add to my roster. These girls don't work the streets, casas or clubs. Most have regular job, study, or looking for an exclusive arrangement with 1 guy.
When you try to sell the buyer and seller realestate agent will work together to rip you off and split the proceeds. When you are ready to sell you will be in a far larger rush to sell than the speed you spent to buy. They know they have you in a time vise and they will squeeze you.
Have you been paying attention to the Colombian president? He is far left, Marxist, does not like Western countries, or capitalism. He or another president in the future may just outlaw foreigners owning property.
I knew a guy in Pattaya Thailand who bought a condo to live and invest in. 10 years later the Russians moved into the area. His condo is now worth half.
In the Philippines your new neighbor is a family of 9 (mom, dad, 3 boys, 2 girls, grandmother, grandfather). Another example is new neighbors move in and have barking dogs or 3 pet roosters you now get to hear every morning for hours on end. Or they have a videoake and sings songs all night everytime there is a holiday or birthday or just because.
My recommendation is to buy all the property you possible can.I think you are overstating the risks but not by a lot. Colombia has a bicameral legislature and the President would have trouble pushing Marxist policies that disadvantage the wealthy class. Nevertheless much of what you say is true and represents a far greater risk for a foreigner.
Of course, the financial wizard that goes by Paulie thinks that if you rent and don't own you can't be a person of substance.
Mr Enternational
09-25-24, 18:03
I said wining and dining is not required, unless you really want it. We are talking about different kind of girls. You are talking about hardened pros, be it Lleras, Centro, Mileroticos or whatever. Why would I wine and dine a Lleras hoe? She is not worth it. And she is not best quality, because street girls are the bottom of the barrel. I hire her to bust a quick nut and move on. Not interested in getting to know her and spending a night with her. Therefore it makes no sense to spend more on top of what we agreed on. The girls I'm taking about are semi pros / sugar babies / non pros, the ones I want to repeat with and add to my roster. These girls don't work the streets, casas or clubs. Most have regular job, study, or looking for an exclusive arrangement with 1 guy.My bad. I should have said:
"So now the best quality hooker is one that you meet online that requires you to spend a certain amount of money on her in addition to paying her an exorbitant amount. Incredible. ".
How would you know they are looking for an exclusive arrangement with one guy? Because that is what they told you? Certainly they would not tell you they are on offer to as many guys that are willing to pay. Just keep that her little secret I guess.
Elvis 2008
09-25-24, 18:12
You got what the girls like only because you pick the girls that don't know any better. Don't get me wrong, it is a great strategy for someone looking to save money and not looking for the best quality. But I can tell you, that in any major city pretty much anywhere in the world, you (by you I mean any monger who has a considerably wide age / looks gap with a girl) won't be able to fuck a true stunner for a can of beer and a joint. She simply won't fall for it. .No, MB, I have done it and if you recall I had a friend who met a friend of my gal, and she was a stunner too. That friend let my friend know in no uncertain terms she was open to him.
In the nonmonger world, women fuck men all the time if the men project wealth. In fact, that is the "norm" and socially acceptable. Fucking someone directly for a $ makes you a hooker.
Another shining example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.Prove me wrong. Let's see your 9's or 10's you spent next to nothing on. Until then, every post or comment of yours is just a fart in the wind.
Elvis 2008
09-25-24, 20:34
Later, she started to play Salsa which is a change from the electronic dance music she always played. She taught me how to dance and I followed alone. She raised her head expecting me to kiss her. When we finished, she said she was going to take a shower and would come back to dance with me and some rico stuff that I did not get. I am her first and only gringo.
Because the foreplay is now very long, yes, I hoped the sex would start sooner, that was why I started to track time. The resulting observation is the foreplay did not eat into the other time because she stayed even longer.
I think you got my post so I am writing more to see if I see what you see. I was extremely attracted to one girl. The sex was great purely based on that. She could be dead, and the sex will still be good because the single-sided sexual attraction was so strong. It made me feel like a superman, and I was able to do things that I did not know I was capable of. The first steakhouse quality sex I ever had was with a hooker, and she got so into the sex and it was so good, I almost blurted out I love you. I thought about why I wanted to say it, and the reason was the pleasure she gave me was so intense, and I loved how that made me feel. Outside of having kids, I think you can get men not to stray if the sex is really good. For me, right now, sex with someone other than my gal would probably be a let down.
My first sugar baby was stunning, and she provided insight for me from being a hot woman I may not have learned otherwise. She would have been the top rated escort (her BJ was off the charts) or one of the best looking women at a top strip club if she wanted to, but she told me her friends who went into that world were never the same after. I call it living with the stripper code and part of the code is to not give anything to a man unless you get paid. So that line about wanting another woman who is more naturally giving is something I would expect if you have been with a woman living with the stripper code.
Thing about the hooker I mentioned is I was not serious about love. I knew she had demons as they would peak out every once in a while. My SB was right about hookers and strippers. Of all the strippers and hookers I met, I think I met one without any demons. Thing about the stripper code is it is okay to fuck men over or be catty with women, but kids are off limits. So when a stripper or escort makes a comment like "Do you believe in God? My guess is she is reflecting on the wrongs she did with kids like she had abortions or abandoned or felt like she abandoned her children.
Thing is you can find the 8-10 looks type who are 8-10 types in bed in the more seedy places in Colombia. It is possible and more likely to have a kind of a sugar relationship if you hand out money or look wealthy but I had low expectations for women and was willing to live with average character. All I expected in return was the woman keep up her end of the bargain which meant hanging out and having sex. Thing I know now that I did not know then is sugar babies look for the same thing in sugar daddies that that they do in BFs or husbands. So I could have dated the sugar babies seriously if I chose to, but I would have had to make the first move and in hindsight, there really were none of my SBs I wanted as GF or wife. The 8-10 character was not there.
So the Colombian women I met who did not talk price were interested in showing me their character. They would cook for me or entertain me and try to show why they would make a good GF or wife. That is why I told guys not to bring up price with women all the time. You might find women like these.
It is funny when you mention the word novio, the sister of the girl I was dating before my current one used the word novio when describing me, and it bugged me, and I let her know. I said we are just dating, and I am not her novio. That girl I was dating said the difference in our ages did not matter to her, but I did not believe her. I felt like I was a compromise for her, and maybe that was why I objected to the word novio.
OTOH, my current gal hid her feelings, I know now that her reason for doing so was because they were so intense she was afraid that they would scare me off. It was only at the end of our trip and she thought that she was not going to see me again that I saw them. With her though, I desperately wanted her to use the term novio so I would have proof she really was into me. Weird huh?
Thing about character and loyalty though is men being critical of female hypergamy, which means women show no loyalty to men and are constantly in search of a better deal / guy than the one they have. There is this funny Romantic Comedy called "What's your number? And the running joke is if you have slept with over 20 men, you will never get married, and the lead female character has been with 19 men.
Rich Cooper of the manosphere world has said studies show the actual number for women when hypergamy kicks in is after four guys. He makes fun of women in the sense that they tend to leave off their one night stands as if they do not count. If you have one every few years, I am not sure it does. If you are banging a different guy every night or week, I think it does.
So if I am reading you right Nounce, you want a woman who performs sexually as the one you described but with a better character. Since I have been around more upper class Colombian families, I have seen the fathers and brothers be very protective of their daughters and sisters. The government may let men get away with shit but these guys won't. So I have been shocked. There is a whole lot less sex going on in that world than what I see in the USA. So what I thought of Colombia, a bunch of not committed promiscuous women, is not true at all. There are a ton of high character, low volume women in the country that could be loyal to a man.
Of all the stupid things JJBee said, the worst was guys here can be with high class Colombian women. They can. It is just easier to find women in the ghettos, bars, and streets. Breaking in the circle I am in and getting to know these people is going to be harder. A friend of mine asked me how to do it, and I was like you might find women like these if you look to hire them for real work.
Finding a beautiful women who is good in bed and is of high character is not easy, but I can tell you they are out there. Thing is, and I am not sure what the right term is, you have to pay your dues or do the work. You cannot just buy a high character woman like this like you do a hooker.
Prove me wrong. Let's see your 9's or 10's you spent next to nothing on. Until then, every post or comment of yours is just a fart in the wind.Some one is watching Shawshank Redemption.
Mr Enternational
09-26-24, 02:09
Prove me wrong. Let's see your 9's or 10's you spent next to nothing on. Until then, every post or comment of yours is just a fart in the wind.Says the man who refuses to show his 8's, 9's, and 10's. Everyone sees who is actually full of wind.
No, MB, I have done it and if you recall I had a friend who met a friend of my gal, and she was a stunner too. That friend let my friend know in no uncertain terms she was open to him.
In the nonmonger world, women fuck men all the time if the men project wealth. In fact, that is the "norm" and socially acceptable. Fucking someone directly for a $ makes you a hooker.Elvis, what you are talking about is a different story. Your friend was basically referred to your gal's friend. I'm sure your friend is well off and she knew that beforehand. And do you think inviting a girl over to have a beer and a joint is how you project wealth? I don't think so.
Some one is watching Shawshank Redemption.Morgan Freeman's best movie hands down.
Finding a beautiful women who is good in bed and is of high character is not easy, but I can tell you they are out there.Agreed! I have four of them.
Thing is, and I am not sure what the right term is, you have to pay your dues or do the work.No, it is simply about making the right choices.
You cannot just buy a high character woman like this like you do a hooker.I actually agree with this statement. But often times I see posters confusing the issue. Are you talking a relationship girls (I refer to as ATF) or a prostitute?
Personally, I don't wine and dine prostitutes. I have my ATFs for that.
Elvis 2008
09-26-24, 08:38
Elvis, what you are talking about is a different story. Your friend was basically referred to your gal's friend. I'm sure your friend is well off and she knew that beforehand. And do you think inviting a girl over to have a beer and a joint is how you project wealth? I don't think so.No, MB, my friend is married. I never would have thought to refer him to her because honestly why would I refer an average looking married friend of mine to a gorgeous single woman half his age? Referring a married man to a friend of my gal would make me look badly with both women. She would have bought him a beer and a joint, and after stressing out about it, he rejected her.
But I can tell you, that in any major city pretty much anywhere in the world, you (by you I mean any monger who has a considerably wide age / looks gap with a girl) won't be able to fuck a true stunner for a can of beer and a joint. She simply won't fall for it.I think I get what you mean, and you are pushing back against older guys who are buying women a beer and a joint and claim to be fucking women as hot as you are. You are saying the women would not sell themselves short right?
But if the older unattractive man says he is CEO of Exxon and she fucks him for no money, she is not selling herself short right? What if the guy is not CEO but makes himself appear to be CEO like? What if he says nothing but she thinks he is CEO of Exxon? What if the guy has drugs she likes? In all those cases, a hottie would fuck a guy without getting $.
You are not saying it specifically but the impression you are giving is the only way an older, average looking man could get a hottie like you have is money. That is not only inaccurate but I think is being perceived as offensive.
You have a nice meal, chat, maybe go to a bar after, have some drinks, dance. You build a rapport with her, which almost always leads to a better sex. Once you get to your hotel, the clothes are flying off, and the sex is so intense, because you have been eye fucking her all night long. Thats the memorable experience I'm talking about. I still remember all the awesome dates I had years ago, because they were that good. How many casa sessions do I remember? Or netflix and chill dates? Probably none.I agree with you rapport always leads to better sex. With me, Netflix and chill is after I have rapport with a woman. Casa dates have not been memorable for me.
It is just I have built rapport over a beer or coffee and had incredible and memorable sex 30 minutes or so after meeting a woman. If the drinking, dining, and dancing thing works for you, that is great.
I think the issue guys are having with you is that you are giving the impression to have the best sex, it is mandatory to spend money on drinking, dancing, and dining. If that is not what you mean, I would clear it up.
Elvis 2008
09-26-24, 15:52
Some individuals are obsessed with the superficial items of life based on appearances.That is your excuse for fucking ugly women.
I remember all the good sex I have had with girls.Yeah, the problem with that is the word girls not girl. When Nounce said he was with a woman who was so good in bed, he wanted no one else, he got what I had told him previously. I said I knew the sex he was having was not the best because he was with more than one woman. If you are getting the best, anyone else is a disappointment. You missed the part where the almost always mild mannered Nounce got super pissed at me. He gets it now. You don't. You are proclaiming you are doing the best while not doing the work.
Someday they will grow up and learn what life is really about: Quality Relationships!Quality huh? The kind of relationships you have are the same as animals do, the same as I have with my dry cleaner. If there was no money for cleaning my clothes, our relationship would not exist.
If that is what you call "quality" or grown up, you need to get a life. You think it is the dream of women to be one of your hookers on retainer? Scratch that! You are so full of yourself you probably do.
No, MB, my friend is married. I never would have thought to refer him to her because honestly why would I refer an average looking married friend of mine to a gorgeous single woman half his age? Referring a married man to a friend of my gal would make me look badly with both women. She would have bought him a beer and a joint, and after stressing out about it, he rejected her.
I think I get what you mean, and you are pushing back against older guys who are buying women a beer and a joint and claim to be fucking women as hot as you are. You are saying the women would not sell themselves short right?
But if the older unattractive man says he is CEO of Exxon and she fucks him for no money, she is not selling herself short right? What if the guy is not CEO but makes himself appear to be CEO like? What if he says nothing but she thinks he is CEO of Exxon? What if the guy has drugs she likes? In all those cases, a hottie would fuck a guy without getting $.
You are not saying it specifically but the impression you are giving is the only way an older, average looking man could get a hottie like you have is money. That is not only inaccurate but I think is being perceived as offensive.
I agree with you rapport always leads to better sex. With me, Netflix and chill is after I have rapport with a woman. Casa dates have not been memorable for me.
It is just I have built rapport over a beer or coffee and had incredible and memorable sex 30 minutes or so after meeting a woman. If the drinking, dining, and dancing thing works for you, that is great.
I think the issue guys are having with you is that you are giving the impression to have the best sex, it is mandatory to spend money on drinking, dancing, and dining. If that is not what you mean, I would clear it up.How does an older, average looking guy bridge the age and looks gap? There has to be some benefit involved. I'm not talking only about money / cash in her pocket. The exxon CEO is a great example. BTW, his net worth is close to $200 million. Even if he doesn't pay her cash, she will definitely get some other benefits of dating him. He will take her to luxurious places, show her the world, elevate her lifestyle, introduce her to other wealthy people. Maybe she manages to marry him and get set for life. And you can't say you are Exxon CEO and then bring her over to your rented basic studio apartment in Laureles, let alone a $100/ month shack in Aranjuez, for a beer and a joint. Nobody is going to buy into your BS. Everyone knows that people of this caliber live a very lucrative lifestyle. We all pay one way or another, and a girl who dates a wealthy guy will always get paid, directly or indirectly. Sometimes the benefit is not about the money or lifestyle at all. Lets say, you are a casting director and she is a young up and coming actress that needs a role. Or you are her boss and she needs a promotion, etc.
For some reason you guys are stuck on the "drinking, dining and dancing" thing, which is only one of hundreds of other ways to spend quality time with a woman and project your wealth. Buying her a 2 mil mango is definitely not of them, let's be fucking real.
Says the man who refuses to show his 8's, 9's, and 10's. Everyone sees who is actually full of wind.At least I don't claim that I fuck models for a can of beer like other guys do. If you claim you fuck models for free, lets fucking see them. People like Huacho crawl from under a rock, post a useless comment, and crawl back in.
Mr Enternational
09-26-24, 16:35
At least I don't claim that I fuck models for a can of beer like other guys do. If you claim you fuck models for free, lets fucking see them.We want to see the ones board members pay a lot of money to fuck too. Why can't we see those?
Explorer8939
09-26-24, 16:48
I checked out Lleras Park. It was surprisingly upscale, surrounded by bars and short time hotels. I was there in the late afternoon, and there were about 5 ladies looking for customers.
The bars were all empty, maybe they come alive after dark.
The frequent rain may be putting a damper on things.
How does an older, average looking guy bridge the age and looks gap? There has to be some benefit involved. I'm not talking only about money / cash in her pocket. The exxon CEO is a great example. BTW, his net worth is close to $200 million. Even if he doesn't pay her cash, she will definitely get some other benefits of dating him. He will take her to luxurious places, show her the world, elevate her lifestyle, introduce her to other wealthy people. Maybe she manages to marry him and get set for life. And you can't say you are Exxon CEO and then bring her over to your rented basic studio apartment in Laureles, let alone a $100/ month shack in Aranjuez, for a beer and a joint. Nobody is going to buy into your BS. Everyone knows that people of this caliber live a very lucrative lifestyle. We all pay one way or another, and a girl who dates a wealthy guy will always get paid, directly or indirectly. Sometimes the benefit is not about the money or lifestyle at all. Lets say, you are a casting director and she is a young up and coming actress that needs a role. Or you are her boss and she needs a promotion, etc.
For some reason you guys are stuck on the "drinking, dining and dancing" thing, which is only one of hundreds of other ways to spend quality time with a woman and project your wealth. Buying her a 2 mil mango is definitely not of them, let's be fucking real.When others do the same thing as you do, only your experience count because you pay more.
I have made friends with locals in Colombia and Brazil. I dress very simple or cheap in your definition, and wear flip flops. I took a long trip with a group of Brazilians this year. By the end of the trip, I knew the family doctor of my friends who came with us likes me. Because there were so many hints from the questions my friends asked. Like my friend asked the doctor wants a foreigner boyfriend, do you know anyone? During the trip, I told them I would agree to everything they want to do to let them know I don't want to be a burden because I don't speak Portuguese. One night, I told my friend I want to thank them for the hospitality that it would make me very happy if I can pay for the dinner for all. See how people treating friends is how I see if someone is generous or not. Spending money to impress hooker on a first date does not really tell you if someone is cheap or not. After I left the city, the doctor started to write to me and I confirmed that she likes me. The doctor also teaches in an university in Sao Paulo.
In Medellin, a female friend basically tried to rap me in my apartment after she drank almost 2 bottles of whiskies I had. BTW, the girls usually don't like them even though they are expensive, LOL. She is independent. I invited her to some expensive restaurants because she was my friend, not because I tried to impress her or have sex with her. She was shocked at the price tag the last time we went, she asked, and I did not volunteer that info. She told me she did not want to go to these places, and we could go to the normal places. I told her because I like trying new places and I would go alone without her but it would not be as enjoyable without a friend. She traveled to US last month and just came back. She told me she likes Medellin much better. hehe. She also traveled to Europe for Christmas on her own. I may meet her in Spain in a few months because she plans to go.
I don't have to show them I am wealthy, and they would know I have enough by observing my behavior, the interaction, what I carry, the quality of the things that I have and my living environment. What they see is genuine, not a facade that I put up. When they noticed my latest phone, i told them it was free. I guess that impressed them even more than I buy them. LOL. Pretty much this is the norm of my social circle in US as well. Most of the women are independently doing well, they work hard to support the luxury style they want to have. That actually is some have told me.
I could said that using your snubbish way, I don't treat those girls the same way you did because the women you dated are not high quality enough, they don't deserve it.
BTW, I know a large group of Paisas who speaks English. Even the girlfriend speak English. I think the capable Colombians got the hottest girlfriends.
I don't need an excuse to prioritize good character and to place that as the number one factor over appearance when choosing an ATF.
I don't let others (especially faceless internet personalities) define me or judge me. Their definition of a quality relationship is not mine. There are entire societies that have multiple wives. I am not from one of them. But since I am not. I build multiple quality relationships based on mutual respect and knowledge. I tell all my girls (who want to know) about the other girls. There are not secrets nor lying.
The one country International Tricks among us do not realize there is a man shortage worldwide. My ATFs have requested my understanding and care for the simple reason that I treat them good and they have all hit the wall and realize that I'm the best they are going to get at this point in their lives.
I don't need to be critical of others.
Man Law 101: No man ought to be telling another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.
Only those who think they are better than others make judgement of others. Last time I checked the most judgmental among us were not wearing any black robes nor had the been appointed by anyone to judge us. This very fact and given they are demanding pictures and making statements as if they were facts without evidence renders their judgments irrelevant.
If they look at my life and say I need to be more like them, honestly I'll pass. Let them continue to hold on to the fantasy that they have a better life than I do and I will just go on about my business like Nounce. I have never had to lead by showing my wealth. And I never will.
You know person is fucked up when you agree with them and they are still attacking you. Must be because I showed the the individual that does not know the first thing about economics after he called me a socialist..
I am a peace with myself and all others!
Elvis 2008
09-26-24, 18:54
For some reason you guys are stuck on the "drinking, dining and dancing" thing, which is only one of hundreds of other ways to spend quality time with a woman and project your wealth.LOL. Yeah, I saw you cleared that up before.
And you can't say you are Exxon CEO and then bring her over to your rented basic studio apartment in Laureles, let alone a $100/ month shack in Aranjuez, for a beer and a joint. And how would you know that? Are you CEO of Exxon?
Nah, I am just kidding. You are right.
How does an older, average looking guy bridge the age and looks gap? There has to be some benefit involved.On the looks front, the 8-10 woman has often if not usually been abused by a good looking guy. My first SB said it best, "I will not go out with someone better looking than myself. " It is the 5 to 7 types in my experience that are more interested in looks. For the 8-10 types, I think looks are like how men look at a woman and her wealth, nice but not necessary. They do not need a good looking man to attract attention to themselves.
With age, the worst is how a young woman and older man look to society. Everyone thinks she is a hooker out for a $, and the man is in an insecure midlife crisis. The guy has to be secure, happy, and show the world why a girl would fall for him, and she has to show that she really cares for the guy.
As for the attraction phase, you tell me. Why would a woman in her 20's or 30's choose a man in his 50's or 60's over one in his 30's or 40's? Can you come up with something other than money?
Elvis 2008
09-26-24, 20:04
I don't need to be critical of others.
The one country International Tricks among us do not realize there is a man shortage worldwide.
Must be because I showed the the individual that does not know the first thing about economics.The sad part about you is I bet you think the first comment does not contradict the other two.
My ATFs have requested my understanding and care for the simple reason that I treat them good and they have all hit the wall and realize that I'm the best they are going to get at this point in their livesLOL. You are the best they are going to get? I bet it never occurred to you how much that says about the quality of your women.
At least I don't claim that I fuck models for a can of beer like other guys do. If you claim you fuck models for free, lets fucking see them. People like Huacho crawl from under a rock, post a useless comment, and crawl back in.I neither use your idiotic scale nor take photos (of anything).
Yeah, your ignorance knows no bounds. I considered buying a place during the "CoVid" times in 2020 because there were some serious bargains. It's real easy to talk yourself out of buying property when you don't have the money. That's human nature. There's still serious bargains, real potential for growth in the market, while there's plenty of current articles with positive assessments of property ownership in Medellin. While if it were such a terrible idea you'd have never considered it before. Then again you probably never did, as you never mentioned buying a place until you were first ridiculed repeatedly for camping out in a $30 a night hotel while calling it "luxury. " This is as true as your claim to have been on track to retire in Spain but diverted to Medellin for the coffee. LOL.
I am not surprised that you think that being a renter is a sign of financial weakness. It is, especially when you go out of your way to brag about how rich you are, but are renting in a middle class area with taxis as your go to transportation.
Yeah, low income area vs. Lower cost of living part of Florida. Now that is a distinction without difference if there ever was one. There's high, middle, and low income folks in my area, but overall Northeast Florida has a lower cost of living than South Florida. This spells it out well.
https://www.thefloridaagents.com/north-florida-vs-south-florida-where-should-you-move/
You understood the context of the remark. But as a coward double down on the dishonesty, because, not only do you lack any integrity but are a lousy liar. LOL.
I think I said I was well-off after years of working, saving and investing. A great fortune? I wouldn't say that It's obvious that you don't have a "great fortune," and are like virtually every 3rd World expat, are down there putting up with weak infrastructure to squeeze more out of your retirement resources. But when you said an average saver should retire with a "great fortune," it's fair to assume you have one. I already knew you didn't, but thanks for the confirmation.
I don't see much use for owning a car. It would be a vanity purchase without compensating utility. There's loads of utility for a vehicle and driver on retainer for a so called "well off" guy, especially when it comes to safety and general comfort, when compared to your go to transportation which is smelly cabs, no ac, and drivers that could be up to about anything. But you aren't "well off. " That's the problem.
You know, Paulie, like before, if you want to make a bet that you will pay when you lose, I would be happy to find my graduate degree records I don't care about your personal information, like profession, degrees, or any lack thereof, while it was recently pointed out that intelligence and education aren't the same. That's no one's business here. But you're from New Mexico so a degree in NYC is well off the beaten path. Maybe, but if so you obviously didn't do much with it since success for you only relates to your personal finances, while we've already discussed these.
You like to call everyone you disagree with a "liar" So in saying this you tell another lie in the process, the above being obvious, to add to the Northeast FL is poor lie. What a fucking clown. LOL In person I just walk off from people like you. I'm surprised I'm even here tonight but am bored waiting on Helene.
I said that you sent me several PM's offering to meet. You responded that I was lying that you only sent one at the beginning of CoVid. I then quoted one I still had from November of 2022. You said it was likely made up. Then you said it couldn't be proven, Then I offered to make a bet. Then you changed your tune again and said it sounded like you. Then you said yes you sent that one but were confused on the dates and it was the one during CoVid that you had previously referenced. Here's another misquote. I never said anything was "likely made up. " LOL I assumed that it wasn't while confirming that it was too old (Nov 2022) to support your claim that I was trying to meet up in Feb 2024. The quote was irrelevant. The one with dementia is you, and it's all spelled out in the included screenshot, or you can go to my post to you from 9-5, post 7713. You couldn't even remember what you said and read a few days before! The validity of the Nov 2022 PM was acknowledged by each of us, twice, while a few days later and oblivious to that you were demanding a wager regarding the validity. That's cognitive decline 101.
And that's not all. You can look at the second screenshot, from 9-2, post 7697, and see where you changed your story regarding the non-existent 2023 PMs.
When you try to sell the buyer and seller realestate agent will work together to rip you off and split the proceeds. When you are ready to sell you will be in a far larger rush to sell than the speed you spent to buy. They know they have you in a time vise and they will squeeze you.
Have you been paying attention to the Colombian president? He is far left, Marxist, does not like Western countries, or capitalism. He or another president in the future may just outlaw foreigners owning property.
I knew a guy in Pattaya Thailand who bought a condo to live and invest in. 10 years later the Russians moved into the area. His condo is now worth half.
In the Philippines your new neighbor is a family of 9 (mom, dad, 3 boys, 2 girls, grandmother, grandfather). Another example is new neighbors move in and have barking dogs or 3 pet roosters you now get to hear every morning for hours on end. Or they have a videoake and sings songs all night everytime there is a holiday or birthday or just because.
My recommendation is to buy all the property you possible can.Your red baiting and anecdotes about other countries don't add anything to the discussion. But like Twitainy there's no reason to concern yourself with these attractive investment opportunities in Medellin when you lack the coin. I believe last report you were renting a room near Botero Plaza? Stick with that.
If you leave your country of origin and pay the girls in the country your visiting you are a Internatinal Trick If you do it mainly to one particular country you are a one country international trick. Those are facts not criticisms. The only way one could see it in another way is if they are engaged in self delusion. That is something no real man should ever do.
My girls are of high quality because they have chosen not to focus on superficial things like displays of wealth, age, looks but instead have chosen to focus on the quality of my character and how I treat them. They have found it to of the quality level they are satisfied with. How do I know this? They are all at least 27 - 30 years younger than me and have been with me from over 1 year to 12 years. You see I could also tell you that my friends considers my girls 7 - 9's. I rely on the opinions of others to make judgements in this case because I cannot judge them. I am biased. One is in Medellin, Colombia right now. She is waiting for me to return. I am part of her family and both she and their family takes care of me. She requires very little monetary assistance. And when we are together she does not require expensive dinners, hotel rooms and other displays of wealth. She has often told me she is just happy with me and would like me to spend more time in Colombia and I plan to do so. You have to believe it. Because I am equally justified in making my unsubstantiated claims as the next person: i.e. Those who ride around in the Medellin Clown Car.
I have no need to compare myself against anyone else
If they look at my life and say: I need to be more like them, honestly I'll pass. Let them continue to hold on to the fantasy that they have a better life than I do and I will just go on about my business like Nounce. I have never had to lead by showing my wealth. And I never will.I wonder why certain individuals among us have to use creative writing and editing of original quotes in order to make their points. When I wrote what I did below I was not being critical. I was stating a fact. For those with short memories I can pull up the exact post as it was written by the individual most crucial of my philosophy of: Pussy is Pussy.
You know person is fucked up when you agree with them and they are still attacking you. Must be because I showed the the individual that does not know the first thing about economics after he called me a socialist..I am a peace with myself and all others!
I neither use your idiotic scale nor take photos (of anything).Nor fuck hot women for cheap.
We want to see the ones board members pay a lot of money to fuck too. Why can't we see those?Stick to fucking your $20 hoes. They all look the same to you anyways. Pussy is pussy.
Mr Enternational
09-27-24, 18:08
Stick to fucking your $20 hoes. They all look the same to you anyways. Pussy is pussy.You must be kin to Kamala the way you are always ducking the question. Should change your handle to MiamiBob the way you are always bobbing and weaving away from the question.
It's real easy to talk yourself out of buying property when you don't have the money. That's human nature. There's still serious bargains, real potential for growth in the market, while there's plenty of current articles with positive assessments of property ownership in Medellin. While if it were such a terrible idea you'd have never considered it before. Then again you probably never did, as you never mentioned buying a place until you were first ridiculed repeatedly for camping out in a $30 a night hotel while calling it "luxury. " This is as true as your claim to have been on track to retire in Spain but diverted to Medellin for the coffee. LOL.Yes your understanding of how the real estate markets work in foreign countries is on a par with your understanding of what is and what is not prudent behavior in a bar with a hooker.
Here are a few examples of the risks attendant in buying property in Medellin. What if the "seller" doesn't own the property? Or perhaps he owns it jointly with other family members (a common situation BTW) Well, in the US the Title Insurer would have verified any claims on the property before closing and you would be protected. New flash Paulie! There are no title companies in Medellin. So how are transactions conducted? Through Attorneys. If the attorney doesn't conduct a proper title search? He doesn't have malpractice insurance, it isn't obligatory in Colombia. Good luck trying to get a court to award you damages against a Colombian attorney.
Bringing money into the country to make the purchase is an onerous affair. There are multiple declarations and certifications that are necessary to make sure that the money isn't from illegal activities.
What happens to the property when you die? I guess it would pass to your beneficiary who would have to come to Colombia to sell it and that process would be an adventure all on its own.
Another person even commented on the myriad risks involved in purchasing real estate in foreign countries. I guess you are the only one who doesn't have a grasp on common sense principles.
So, Paulie if you think there are such great bargains and there aren't any real risks. Why don't you come down and buy some properties?
There's high, middle, and low income folks in my area, but overall Northeast Florida has a lower cost of living than South Florida. I see, what that means is that you live in a poverty area and yet you criticize me for living in a much better environment in the Parque Laureles area of Medellin.
It's obvious that you don't have a "great fortune," and are like virtually every 3rd World expat, are down there putting up with weak infrastructure to squeeze more out of your retirement resources. But when you said an average saver should retire with a "great fortune," it's fair to assume you have one. I already knew you didn't, but thanks for the confirmation.You really like that argument don't you. I'm living in Medellin, so it must be out of necessity. Prior to retirement I looked at a lot of places and Medellin was my favorite.
I haven't even started to collect my social security. By deferring it until I am 70, it grows by 8% a year. Another financial principle at work. You really should take one of those basic finance courses, if you can afford it. It really might help you.
There's loads of utility for a vehicle and driver on retainer for a so called "well off" guy, especially when it comes to safety and general comfort, when compared to your go to transportation which is smelly cabs, no ac, and drivers that could be up to about anything.^My go to transportation is DiDi. The drivers all have GPS which makes it easy to get to where you are going. The cars are clean and mostly new. I do agree with you that Taxis are usually not so clean unless they are brand new.
I don't care about your personal information, like profession, degrees, or any lack thereof, while it was recently pointed out that intelligence and education aren't the same. That's no one's business here. But you're from New Mexico so a degree in NYC is well off the beaten path. Maybe, but if so you obviously didn't do much with it since success for you only relates to your personal finances, while we've already discussed these."intelligence and education aren't the same. " Pity that you have neither. BTW I lived in NYC for 10 years.
Oh let's argue some more about all the meeting requests you sent out. I suspect a huge group of people on ISG got similar requests from you. Makes sense, you have no friends and every time you came to Colombia you were hoping to find someone that you didn't have to pay, who would spend time with you. I guess you failed at that too.
Stick to fucking your $20 hoes. Mr. E. do you think Miami Boy has a problem because you fuck hoes? I wouldn't understand that because he fucks hoes also. Do you think he has a problem because you fuck for free or occasionally pay 20 USD? I don't understand that either.
Man Law 101: No man ought to be telling another man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck. You do not have to believe it is a law, but there are not real men in my inner circle that ever violate this most basic understanding between men.
They all look the same to you anyways. I don't remember that you ever said that.
Pussy is pussy.You have never said that Mr. E. I know because I am the only person that has said that. Not sure why everyone be trying to take credit for my words especially given the amount of bandwidth wasted trying to refute my most basic premise about prostitutes.
Like I said, wives, girlfriends and ATFs are different because you have a relationship with the pussy life support system. But sometimes basic reading comprehension of English give people problems.
Explorer8939
09-27-24, 20:54
I am amazed that no one has mentioned the fact that it is raining hard every day. Mornings are sunny, but after that, it's raining too much to go out.
Elvis 2008
09-27-24, 21:31
You see I could also tell you that my friends considers my girls 7 - 9's. I rely on the opinions of others to make judgements in this case because I cannot judge them. I am biased.I bet your friends like Gabacho do think your women are 7's to 9's. And besides judging after saying judging was bad, I thought you said your women were 6's. Oh, you are being sarcastic and making fun of what I said. It is too bad you were imitating me. You were actually not sounding like a completely narcissistic bullshit artist for the first time.
You are your own worst enemy. You said you go for 6's because of the experience. You said pussy is pussy. Your whole bullshit line is I could get a 10 too if I paid more. LOL. I think anyone who sees a pic with me and my gal or ex SBs thinks the exact same thing. What you do not get is you are mentally trained to think it. It is a frame. It is only true if you believe it is.
Picture this. I am in my early 20's and meeting with a 50 ish CEO with a pot belly and raspy voice, a friend of my father's. In the middle of the meeting, this stunning late 20's, early 30's red head comes in and kisses him and says, "I need a kiss for luck. " My jaw dropped. I had never seen a woman like her be with a man like him. In hindsight, it was obvious why she was with him, and it was not money or at least not all money, but you have no fucking clue as to why.
The irony is the only guy who has shown me he gets any of this is Viliany. He did not give a good description of it IMO but he is breaking or at the very least bending the frame.
You keep thinking MB and I are attached at the hip. If you were not so full of your own bullshit, you would see I challenged him. Yeah, why would a 20 or 30 year old hottie choose a 60 year old over a 40 year old outside of money? He came up with nothing, and he is way younger than you. You keep thinking MB and I are in the same car but we are not. You are in the same car with him. You feel the exact same way as he does.
When you say you are with ugly looking women because of the experience, that means that every good looking woman is a bad or excessively greedy person right? Talk about stereotyping. That is the thing with you Medellin morons. You literally tell the world how stupid you really are.
Explorer8939
09-28-24, 00:41
Walking around the city, the women are noticeably hotter than just about anyplace I have been to in the last 20 years.
I speak Spanish and have 10 years of living in LATAM. The problem with the DisUnited State of America is a lack of real men. The new generation of younger men are a bunch of girly men they are more like man bitches a horrible combination that does not serve the young man more the society he is growing up in.
No Fathers around, no Uncles to learn from to teach the young men of today. I did not need a YouTube channel to teach me how to hold frame other than to learn the lingo being used by the young ones to describe basic principles the Fathers and Uncles taught me. Uncles are great. They are not your Dad so they give you more leeway. But they are still the men brought up with the same principles as your Father so if they get out of line the will check you quick fast and a hurry. Plus they show you and tell you things that your Father will not (for reasons). So you get a alternative male personality to evaluate other than just your Father. I had Uncles I liked and and ones that I didn't. But they all taught me something. Even if was: "I don't want to be like him". LOL!.
How does all this factor into: International Tricking in no other place in the world have I seen what men should really behave like than in LATAM countries. Men in LATAM do not take nothing from their bitches. And that is the way it should be.
My boy Gabacho is real. I have seen pictures of his girls both in Thailand and Colombia. You are a fictional internet personality that has presented absolutely no proof that you exist in real life. I don't know if there was anything in it for Gabacho but the Flame War Truce that we negotiated had been useful for me. I developed a personal relationship with another ISG brothers and had the opportunity to assist in the introduction of Pattaya to him. That puts me on the give back. And makes me a real human being.
I used to tell myself, I do not want to be the oldest man in the club. But you know what, I am now. And everyone with me could give a fuck! My male friends 20 years younger than me WANT me to come out with them. They WANT me to travel with them. They WANT me to hang out with them. Actually surprised me. If someone had of told me it would be easier to get pussy at 60 years old than it was for me to get it at 20 I would have never believed them.
Are there 30 - 40 year olds that are eights (8) - tens (10)? I don't know and I don't give a fuck. I know there are plenty of girls that treat me good. At this point in my life, no drama, good treatment, good sex trumps appearance. If that makes (whatever) in your eyes so be it. In my world, you only exist here in the Stupid shit in Medellin thread.
I never said anything to anybody about anyone being jealous of me. The only people that tell me people are jealous of me are the people that want to do what I do. Those people are not here. Because they are already International Tricks.
What I said is because people have their reasons they simply cannot believe that I have a passport. I can get on a plane and travel and I can be a International Trick just like the rest of the mother fuckers posting up in dis * You want to say I gots privilege. Damn straight I have privilege. I worked for it. It sits in my bank account (at least the part I need in fiat currency to pay current expenses) the rest earns enough money for me to pay for the meager lifestyle that I live. That way I don't have to work. Certain individuals have questioned my financial standing. I probable live on less than you spend on your prostitutes. LOL!.
Pussy is Pussy
If an individual sets up his affairs in such a way to get the girls he chooses to get I have no problem. Good for them. The problem occurs when those same International Tricks want to come into this forum and tell me they are better than me because of how much money they spend on their prostitutes.
I will stipulate to the following: You are having a different experience than I am.. But just like I tell my children: not better, not worse, just different.
Now for me this flame war is over. I am going back to my regular enjoyment of life.
I am a peace with myself and all others
You must be kin to Kamala the way you are always ducking the question. Should change your handle to MiamiBob the way you are always bobbing and weaving away from the question.I'm in the red camp.
It makes no sense to share photos with a person who thinks pussy is pussy and can't tell the difference between a 6 and a 9.
You keep thinking MB and I are attached at the hip. If you were not so full of your own bullshit, you would see I challenged him. Yeah, why would a 20 or 30 year old hottie choose a 60 year old over a 40 year old outside of money? He came up with nothing, and he is way younger than you. You keep thinking MB and I are in the same car but we are not. You are in the same car with him. You feel the exact same way as he does.
When you say you are with ugly looking women because of the experience, that means that every good looking woman is a bad or excessively greedy person right? Talk about stereotyping. That is the thing with you Medellin morons. You literally tell the world how stupid you really are.I came up with nothing because you made a questionable statement that I don't agree with and you wanted me elaborate on it. All other things being equal, a young hottie will always choose a younger dude. If she chooses an older dude, all other things are not being equal and there are multiple factors that come into play that would affect her decision. Just look any age gap statistics around the world and see for yourself. People everywhere in the world tend to date people of their age (+/-), because they have more in common.
Mr Enternational
09-28-24, 15:06
You have never said that Mr. E. I know because I am the only person that has said that. Not sure why everyone be trying to take credit for my words especially given the amount of bandwidth wasted trying to refute my most basic premise about prostitutes.Actually I was saying that on this website as far back as 2007. I would not dare take credit for it though. I first heard it from Too Short, who said it on Ant Banks' "Big Thangs" record in 1997.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3005-2007-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=558331&viewfull=1#post558331
I'm in the red camp.
It makes no sense to share photos with a person who thinks pussy is pussy and can't tell the difference between a 6 and a 9.And exactly how do you know this?
I am amazed that no one has mentioned the fact that it is raining hard every day. Mornings are sunny, but after that, it's raining too much to go out.I think only Friday this week can be considered raining hard. The other days are just average.
Finding a beautiful women who is good in bed and is of high character is not easy, but I can tell you they are out there. Thing is, and I am not sure what the right term is, you have to pay your dues or do the work. You cannot just buy a high character woman like this like you do a hooker.I am looking for someone who can make me get an erection while looking at her interactively, or while I am thinking about her. I hope most can understand this. I pick the girls that give me the best sex. What is the best sex? It is the ones that make me not want to have sex with other girls, and I think you may get this part. The reason I am seeing multiple girls for backups and leverage.
You are in a special situation. You are not even with a hooker.
I came up with nothing because you made a questionable statement that I don't agree with and you wanted me elaborate on it. All other things being equal, a young hottie will always choose a younger dude. If she chooses an older dude, all other things are not being equal and there are multiple factors that come into play that would affect her decision. Just look any age gap statistics around the world and see for yourself. People everywhere in the world tend to date people of their age (+/-), because they have more in common.You have been indoctrinated in US culture and you can't seem to grasp that it just isn't universal. Latin America is distinctly different. Of course some 18 or 19 y/o girl is going to want to date boys her own age. But it isn't as absolute as you want to believe. Girls who have reached their mid 20's have become much more pragmatic. Probably with some help from their mother and aunts. It is extremely common in Latin America for women who have a little more maturity to prefer men who they view as nurturers. In other words, a more mature successful man. You see it in restaurants all the time. An older man and a younger woman. Yeah it might be his daughter jajajaja. How many men take their daughter alone to a nice restaurant? When they do something like that it is usually a family outing.
You are a visitor, a tourist. No one faults you for going for the prettiest girl you can find at a price that you are comfortable with. Nothing wrong with that. I know I certainly did that when I visited the first few times almost 10 years ago. But you really should recognize that you are nothing special in that regard. In fact, many call people like that weekend millionaires. There is another consideration. I call it the Barbie complex. A really gorgeous girl charges you whatever she can get but when it comes time to hit the sheets you find out she isn't all that skillful in bed. Why? She never had to learn any skills. She always got men with her looks and never really learned how to please her partner (or worse yet, never wanted to).
Other people take a different tack. Elvis is just one of several examples. I razz him all the time, but he found a woman that is the perfect partner for him. Sure he is much older but it is a symbiotic relationship. She takes care of his creature needs, food, sex, companionship and he takes care of her needs, a safe secure home, good school for her daughter and generally a better life. I think (but do not know for certain of course) that they genuinely care for each other and both get what they want and need out of the relationship.
It may not be your bailiwick, but there are tons and I do means tons of young women in their 20's and 30's that are drop dead gorgeous, some have children some do not. Some of them are well educated and have careers. If you could speak the language and offer something besides just money, you could find a whole new world open up. Many are not as concerned with a 20 year age difference as they are in starting a serious relationship with someone who is not a drunkard or druggie and handles responsibilities. They aren't looking for someone to financially support them, just someone who is independent and isn't a financial drain. Doesn't really fit your needs since you don't live here and you are too much of a player. but if you think the girls you see are better, I would say you dont know what you dont know and probably never will..
and everybody staring at her because she is so beautiful and you know she is yours for the night.That is you. I don't get the enjoyment of people staring at my paid girlfriend. I probably will feel embarrassed.
You have a nice meal, chat, maybe go to a bar after, have some drinks, dance . You build a rapport with her, which almost always leads to a better sex. You think we are not building rapport and only you do? I don't build rapport in one night. I build them over a long period of time. Based on what you said, which would be better sex? Think about it, are you doing this with the same girl on every date? If not, what's left?
Once you get to your hotel, the clothes are flying off, and the sex is so intense, because you have been eye fucking her all night long. How long does this last? Please expand, otherwise it sounds very quick to me.
Moments this week:
The master girl brings her entertainer sidekick with her at 7:30 PM. She often brings different friends with her. The friends are older than her, and are more like servant to her in a sense. She would sit there; the friend would bring her the shoes or help her put on the makeup. I am amused at this relationship.
We danced, then the master girl asked for toys. I brought them out and the master girl put the dildo and harness on and we continued to dance in front of the mirror with the 3 way kissing and licking. The entertainer went down the master to suck her dick. I was wondering when my turn would be. We moved to the room.
The entertainer said "mirror" so I went to move the mirror to the room. The entertainer told me she was going to suck the master until she came and they will give me delicious actions after. While the oral was going on. I went on top on the entertainer with her one leg between my legs and I went in. Then I switch leg.
My turn to lie down, the master started to give me oral. The entertainer slipped underneath the master in a 69 position to give her oral. We switched position and I started to have sex with the master while the master and the entertainer were kissing, and the entertainer was using a vibrator. I was tired so I stopped to rest. The master instructed the entertainer to suck while she gave me wet kisses.
They left at 2 PM.
Earlier in the week:
My massage oil arrived. The girl saw it and it was massage when I was expecting BJ, . But she used the lubricant by mistake instead of the oil. LOL. After we were done, she told me it's not finished yet and she was going to give me an oral after shower. She got fully dressed and she gave me a BJ before she left.
Actually I was saying that on this website as far back as 2007. I would not dare take credit for it though. I first heard it from Too Short, who said it on Ant Banks' "Big Thangs" record in 1997.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3005-2007-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=558331&viewfull=1#post558331Congratualtions. I find it interesting that only now you have decided to speak up and state that you also explicitly agree with the concept of:
Pussy is Pussy
Since you reached back to 2007 for a post you made in Brazil, tell us all why? Why now?
After reading extensive posts from others being critical of the phase that you have only chosen to point it out.
Elvis 2008
09-28-24, 19:05
I am looking for someone who can make me get an erection while looking at her interactively, or while I am thinking about her. I hope most can understand this. I pick the girls that give me the best sex. What is the best sex? It is the ones that make me not want to have sex with other girls, and I think you may get this part. The reason I am seeing multiple girls for backups and leverage.
You are in a special situation. You are not even with a hooker.Yeah, I understand. If you are looking just for the best sex, it is easier to go P4 P. And even if you cannot eat at the best steak house one night, you want to have one as a backup. I get it.
Mr Enternational
09-28-24, 20:27
The entertainer went down the master to suck her dick. I was wondering when my turn would be.No Diddy! I hope.
Mr Enternational
09-28-24, 20:52
You have been indoctrinated in US culture and you can't seem to grasp that it just isn't universal. Latin America is distinctly different. Of course some 18 or 19 y/o girl is going to want to date boys her own age. But it isn't as absolute as you want to believe. Girls who have reached their mid 20's have become much more pragmatic. Probably with some help from their mother and aunts. It is extremely common in Latin America for women who have a little more maturity to prefer men who they view as nurturers. In other words, a more mature successful man. You see it in restaurants all the time. An older man and a younger woman. Yeah it might be his daughter jajajaja. How many men take their daughter alone to a nice restaurant? At the beginning of Covid me and my girlfriend in Brazil were on a road trip. We stayed one night in Aracaju and ate at the nicest restaurant in town. A guy about 70 years old came in with a stunning young chick. I pointed it out to my girl. She then told me a story about when she was 19. She had already gotten married and had a son. They all got on the bus and the driver told her husband who was 48 at the time that he forgot to pay the fare for his daughter. She said she just laughed and her husband got mad.
That is you. I don't get the enjoyment of people staring at my paid girlfriend. I probably will feel embarrassed.Nobody knows if the girl I'm with is paid or not. I'm not a grandpa, not obese, and can easily pass as a boyfriend. And even if people knew she is p4 p, it doesn't bother me, because it is me fucking her that night, not them.
You think we are not building rapport and only you do? I don't build rapport in one night. I build them over a long period of time. Based on what you said, which would be better sex? Think about it, are you doing this with the same girl on every date? If not, what's left? When you tell your stories about fucking girls for a can of smirnoff, you got to let your audience know that you already know the girl and it was not your first date with her. Also, as always, you leave out all the important details about her looks. It is relatively easy to score a 5, especially in 3rd world countries, but exponentially more difficult to score an 8.
How long does this last? Please expand, otherwise it sounds very quick to me.Last what? The whole date from start to finish? The sexual intercourse itself? The foreplay? You got to learn how to ask more specific questions.
Moments this week:
The master girl brings her entertainer sidekick with her at 7:30 PM. She often brings different friends with her. The friends are older than her, and are more like servant to her in a sense. She would sit there; the friend would bring her the shoes or help her put on the makeup. I am amused at this relationship.
We danced, then the master girl asked for toys. I brought them out and the master girl put the dildo and harness on and we continued to dance in front of the mirror with the 3 way kissing and licking. The entertainer went down the master to suck her dick. I was wondering when my turn would be. We moved to the room.
The entertainer said "mirror" so I went to move the mirror to the room. The entertainer told me she was going to suck the master until she came and they will give me delicious actions after. While the oral was going on. I went on top on the entertainer with her one leg between my legs and I went in. Then I switch leg.
My turn to lie down, the master started to give me oral. The entertainer slipped underneath the master in a 69 position to give her oral. We switched position and I started to have sex with the master while the master and the entertainer were kissing, and the entertainer was using a vibrator. I was tired so I stopped to rest. The master instructed the entertainer to suck while she gave me wet kisses.
They left at 2 PM.
Earlier in the week:
My massage oil arrived. The girl saw it and it was massage when I was expecting BJ, . But she used the lubricant by mistake instead of the oil. LOL. After we were done, she told me it's not finished yet and she was going to give me an oral after shower. She got fully dressed and she gave me a BJ before she left.You post random sexual endeavors that have nothing to do with the subject being discussed. And leave out all the details. Whats the point? Are you trying to portray yourself as a stud who is so charming, so cool, so intelligent and so fun, that girls line up to fuck you for free? You said earlier about some chick from SP that liked you. So what? Did you end up fucking her or dating her? You said she was a doctor and teaches at university, emphasizing her intelligence and social status, but is she a 40 years old single mom of two? Or is she a 27 yo stunner with no kids?
You have been indoctrinated in US culture and you can't seem to grasp that it just isn't universal. Latin America is distinctly different. Of course some 18 or 19 y/o girl is going to want to date boys her own age. But it isn't as absolute as you want to believe. Girls who have reached their mid 20's have become much more pragmatic. Probably with some help from their mother and aunts. It is extremely common in Latin America for women who have a little more maturity to prefer men who they view as nurturers. In other words, a more mature successful man. You see it in restaurants all the time. An older man and a younger woman. Yeah it might be his daughter jajajaja. How many men take their daughter alone to a nice restaurant? When they do something like that it is usually a family outing.
You are a visitor, a tourist. No one faults you for going for the prettiest girl you can find at a price that you are comfortable with. Nothing wrong with that. I know I certainly did that when I visited the first few times almost 10 years ago. But you really should recognize that you are nothing special in that regard. In fact, many call people like that weekend millionaires. There is another consideration. I call it the Barbie complex. A really gorgeous girl charges you whatever she can get but when it comes time to hit the sheets you find out she isn't all that skillful in bed. Why? She never had to learn any skills. She always got men with her looks and never really learned how to please her partner (or worse yet, never wanted to).
Other people take a different tack. Elvis is just one of several examples. I razz him all the time, but he found a woman that is the perfect partner for him. Sure he is much older but it is a symbiotic relationship. She takes care of his creature needs, food, sex, companionship and he takes care of her needs, a safe secure home, good school for her daughter and generally a better life. I think (but do not know for certain of course) that they genuinely care for each other and both get what they want and need out of the relationship.
It may not be your bailiwick, but there are tons and I do means tons of young women in their 20's and 30's that are drop dead gorgeous, some have children some do not. Some of them are well educated and have careers. If you could speak the language and offer something besides just money, you could find a whole new world open up. Many are not as concerned with a 20 year age difference as they are in starting a serious relationship with someone who is not a drunkard or druggie and handles responsibilities. They aren't looking for someone to financially support them, just someone who is independent and isn't a financial drain. Doesn't really fit your needs since you don't live here and you are too much of a player. but if you think the girls you see are better, I would say you dont know what you dont know and probably never will..This is not about what I believe in. It is the statistics, real stuff. If you look it up, you will find out that the average age gap in Bogota is about 3 years, and in Medellin about 4. In the States, it is about 2. 3 years. And the couples where a man is 15-20+ years older than a woman account for only 1%-1. 5%. You, Elvis, and a few older folks living there full time are OUTLIERS. You don't follow the general trend. I go out a lot, but I rarely see a grandpa having dinner with a young cutie, maybe once a month. So what you are saying sounds like a BS to me.
Secondly, the age gap doesn't have to be that big in order for a man to be able to provide. There is plenty of dudes who are well off in their 30's and even high 20's. Especially if you come from a western country. This is the world we live in right now, and it seems like you live in your own bubble thinking only older folks are well off.
Thirdly, I'm happy for Elvis, but take out his money or ability to provide out of the equation, and see how long the relationship will last. Nobody wants to date a brokie, even if their personality is great.
Fourthly, if your Barbie doesn't fuck you good, doesn't mean she can't or has no skills to do so. This is not a rocket science, and it only takes 1-2 real boyfriends to learn everything. You got to reach a certain level of chemistry in order for her not to hold back in bed.
Lastly, you are right, I have no interest in women in their 30's (too old for me) with kids. I do not date single moms, not my cup of tea. I like them young and I don't want to be raising someone else's kids, I would like to have my own kids sometime in the future. And the women you are talking about. Professionals who don't look for financial help, would rather date someone of their age, because there is really no need to date a grandpa, when there is plenty of younger males around, be it at their workplace or social circle.
Elvis 2008
09-28-24, 21:51
All other things being equal, a young hottie will always choose a younger dude.They are never going to be equal.
Just look any age gap statistics around the world and see for yourself. People everywhere in the world tend to date people of their age (+/-), because they have more in common.No, that is the frame. When I was in Bolivia at a city's best steakhouse, I saw middle aged guy after guy with younger women. Good luck guessing the age of Asian women and in much of the Muslim world, you do not see the difference in ages because the way Muslims handle sexual desire (or try to) is to cover up the women. You are accepting the frame you have been given, and you want to believe it is like that.
So the 50 ish CEO is talking to me, and his wife comes in and kisses him, and she is gorgeous right? The shocking part is not that she was beautiful, which was nice to see, but she was so into him. I remember it because it was the first time there were cracks in the frame.
That is the part with the CEO that got me. The hottie LOVED him. It was not a detached hooker kiss.
So why was I seeing him? I was 22 years old, and I did not know what the future held for me. This CEO has 30+ years of life experience, and what my father did that was so smart was to realize I was tuning him out. He knew that I needed another source for guidance.
And the CEO's guidance was 100% on target, and it was a little different than my fathers. I listened and acted on 90% of what he said. I should have acted on 100% of it. I was all worried about blonde bimbos back then when I should have spent more time with him. He changed my life so much for the better after one meeting. So I could she was with him for all the reasons I was there seeing him: guidance, financial planning, emotional security, intelligence, and wisdom. Whatever issue or anxiety a person had in their life, this guy could help you himself or find you the help you needed.
Thing is a hottie like that I am sure had been with guys her own age. I am sure the advantage she had over me was that she had been with the male airhead studs and decided they were not worth her time. As far as things in common, why would she want to be with a guy who was just as clueless as she was?
The single hard working female college students main concern is their future. The single mother's #1 concern should be and often is their children. Yes, for the shallow women, and that is what hookers usually are, the main concern is going to be the quick $, the Instagram likes, the superficial envy of their friends, the fun things you do together.
The girl I was seeing before my current one kept saying age did not matter to her, but I felt like it did. And when I was semi-ignoring her because I found someone else, she broke things off with me. It was a proclamation that I could not do better than her. I am sure her friends were like, "he is an old man. You can do way better. " and she was shocked to learn the one who did better was me.
It really did not matter what she said at that point, but she confessed to me that the first night we were together was the best night of her life. For people stuck in the frame, that is not possible. They will tell themselves without even knowing her, she was lying.
Elvis 2008
09-28-24, 22:13
Now for me this flame war is over. I am going back to my regular enjoyment of life.There was no war. I was showing you how you were flaming yourself.
Are there 30 - 40 year olds that are eights (8) - tens (10)? I don't know and I don't give a fuck. I am a peace with myself and all othersSo when you said that you were with 6's for the experience, that was the only experience you had. Thanks for the honesty. So you are just some POS loser who cannot get better than a 6 and think if that is the best you can do, that is the best anyone else can do?
Yeah, that sounds about right. You and JJBee should be roommates.
This is not about what I believe in. It is the statistics, real stuff. If you look it up, you will find out that the average age gap in Bogota is about 3 years, and in Medellin about 4. In the States, it is about 2. 3 years. And the couples where a man is 15-20+ years older than a woman account for only 1%-1. 5%. You, Elvis, and a few older folks living there full time are OUTLIERS. You don't follow the general trend. I go out a lot, but I rarely see a grandpa having dinner with a young cutie, maybe once a month. So what you are saying sounds like a BS to me.There is nothing wrong with your statistics. It is the person interpreting them that is out of touch with reality. Did you bother to look how the statistics are compiled? Predominantly married couples. Why is that? Because they have to fill out a marriage license which lists their respective birthdays. Unmarried couples don't fill out any such forms so their age difference is not fairly represented. What does this do? It skews the numbers you are thinking about towards married couples and smaller age gap differences. Even with that you see that the age difference in Medellin is double that of the US. If you quantified unmarried couples the age difference would grow even more. (Yes even in Catholic Colombia that is a common thing, sheesh they even legalized abortion, imagine that).
Secondly, the age gap doesn't have to be that big in order for a man to be able to provide. There is plenty of dudes who are well off in their 30's and even high 20's. Especially if you come from a western country. This is the world we live in right now, and it seems like you live in your own bubble thinking only older folks are well off.How many times can I tell you this. You are fixated with the realities of the US and European employment markets. What do you think the median monthly salary is in Colombia?
It is 4 million pesos which is less than 1,000 US dollars. You can be sure that younger women are earning something closer the minimum salary which is 1,300,000 COP monthly. Which would be just around 300 US dollars.
https://www.timedoctor.com/blog/average-salary-in-colombia/
Do you think that men in their 20's and 30's from the US or Europe are coming to Colombia looking for a marriage partner? Is that the point you are trying to shovel? Because I think the answer to that is that those men are in the minority of tourists and they are looking for the same think you are looking for.
Thirdly, I'm happy for Elvis, but take out his money or ability to provide out of the equation, and see how long the relationship will last. Nobody wants to date a brokie, even if their personality is great.I am going to take a wild guess that Elvis will take exception to that comment. Women from the beginning of time have looked for men that will be able to support the family. If you have ever had any longer term relationships, I'm sure you would agree with that.
Fourthly, if your Barbie doesn't fuck you good, doesn't mean she can't or has no skills to do so. This is not a rocket science, and it only takes 1-2 real boyfriends to learn everything. You got to reach a certain level of chemistry in order for her not to hold back in bed.Yeah, well I'm not dating Barbies. I'll leave them for you. I just wonder how many girls have graciously accepted all your courting, dining, dancing and then went back to the room and gave you the starfish treatment hoping you would finish fast so she could collect her bounty and get away. I just bet you sweep them off their feet with your Google Translate conversations that take minutes to cut and paste or maybe you hold the phone 1 inch from her mouth so you can get a good recording.
Look, I'm giving you shit. You don't do anything that hasn't been done here a thousand times each week. You came, you saw you fucked you had fun you left. Sounds like a good formula. When Colombia stops being fun, you'll try Europe and the FKKs in Germany or the brothels in Prague and Budapest and then you'll discover Romania. Like I said, been there, done that.
Lastly, you are right, I have no interest in women in their 30's (too old for me) with kids. I do not date single moms, not my cup of tea. I like them young and I don't want to be raising someone else's kids, I would like to have my own kids sometime in the future. And the women you are talking about. Professionals who don't look for financial help, would rather date someone of their age, because there is really no need to date a grandpa, when there is plenty of younger males around, be it at their workplace or social circle.I don't think you are in the market to establish a meaningful long term relationship. So for you it makes sense to exclude women in the 25-35 range. I personally think that is where the most amazing jewels can be found. Still young enough to have their beauty and in addition you get some mind-warping sex. Best of all the women in this age group are more mature (for the most part. They are Colombianas after all). It would mean looking and learning some language and cutting down on the prostitutes, well who knows. One day you may grow up and look for something substantial.
If you look it up, you will find out that the average age gap in Bogota is about 3 years, and in Medellin about 4. In the States, it is about 2. 3 years. And the couples where a man is 15-20+ years older than a woman account for only 1%-1. 5%. So where did you look this up and why didn't you cite it? Because you are full of shit and made it up.
When you tell your stories about fucking girls for a can of smirnoffWhere did I say that? All you can concentrate on is cost. Didn't you say you are not fucking 9 or 10?
you leave out all the important details about her looks. I prefer the girls that excite me. The ones that I can get an reaction physically by looking or thinking about her. This girl and the sidekick have attractive face, slim. The master is tall with long legs. She can stand out in the crowd. The entertainer is sexy and seductive, fit. I could feel her six packs but not visually visible.
You post random sexual endeavors that have nothing to do with the subject being discussed. It actually has and that is the point but you don't get it. The girls go out of her way to give me a BJ when she did not have to. I did not intent spent the time to write the detail. The girls were coming. Now they went back home to change.
I finished my first pop and I was resting. In less then 10 minutes, the master girl started to blow me again so I could fuck the entertainer. She did not know I could not recover that fast. And surprisingly I did not know I could actually recover that fast. LOL. She enabled me to do the things that I did not know I could and look at the amount of time we spent together. I got practically as many blow jobs as I wanted. The girl does not count times. She count time. Haha.
So where did you look this up and why didn't you cite it? Because you are full of shit and made it up.Just fucking google it and see for yourself, you lazy piece of shit.
Does this idiot get the concept of supply and demand or is he another socialist that he thinks that he deserves better service because of his virtue signaling?Here you are calling me a socialist because I made the statement Pussy is Pussy!
Elvis, it amzaes me that you clearly know zero about socialism yet you state your views so authoratively.
"I quoted the exact definition" - You think there is only one definition of socialism on the internet? Good grief man. Where did you look, the official Repuplican website? Try this one:
"In socialist society power is in the hands of the working people, headed by the working class. They own the means of production. ".
https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/pe/pe-ch28.htm
Thanks for the honesty.JustTK gave you free education. Why did you ignore it? I have given you free education in the American Politics thread, you continue to ignore it. I handed you an opportunity to squash beef and you just continue spouting your half truths, twisting my words into the meaning that you choose. Spinning like your favorite politicians your country of origin. Answer for the words you wrote. No you will not do that. Will simply continue to repeat the same diatribe you always do and never address the fact that you are simply wrong.
I must have wounded you deeply. Why are you so BUTT HURT by the words of The Cmdr?
Why do you keep trolling me E2008? You lost the battle of wits, but I was in combat with a unarmed man. I will never judge myself by your standards. So you can continue with your ad hominem attacks all you like. You have your Medellin Clown Car full of your individualist that admire and look up to you. I am not one of them!.
You are only trolling me because you have squandered your privilege and allowed a black man who has experienced withering discrimination in his country origin best you in life. I don't work. You are still on a wage slave plantation. You either work in it or you own it. Either way you a punk ass * mother fucker who is a complete hypocrite.
I am a free man Financially Independent. I choose the girls that I decide to. The ones that choose me. I spend the money I earned how I choose to. Not anyone else. And if someone wants to come on the internet and call me a loser that is fine by me. But please note all you International Tricks out there talking shit: if you are still working you don't have anything going better than me. Because if you are still working you're a squandering the most important asset that you have in your life. TIME.
If you are still sucking on the teat of your country of origin, you are not like me. I trick internationally because I live in the country of the girls who are prostituting themselves. I am not a lame ass fuck that cannot get pussy in his country of origin with all the advantages of being, young rich and white. LOL!. You have to get on a mother fucking plane and fly to another country to get pussy. How lame is that? You wish you could be like me, pussy on call, knowledgable about world financial affairs and financially independent.
Anytime you would like to become a real man and step out from behind your computer screen in order to address me face to face, you let me know. Otherwise just continue to be a keyboard warrior who exits only as a ISG character.
Where did I say that? All you can concentrate on is cost. Didn't you say you are not fucking 9 or 10?You didn't say anything about paying them. All you mentioned was the money you spent on misc stuff. (which was very little BTW, next to nothing) That makes everybody think the girls were not p4 p and that you are such a prince charming that you are able to fuck girls 1/2-1/3 of your age for free.
I prefer the girls that excite me. The ones that I can get an reaction physically by looking or thinking about her. This girl and the sidekick have attractive face, slim. The master is tall with long legs. She can stand out in the crowd. The entertainer is sexy and seductive, fit. I could feel her six packs but not visually visible.Thats Jbbee's approach. While it works for you personally, it doesn't tell your audience anything about the quality / looks of your girls. Maybe you find morbidly obese girls sexy and attractive? If so, you are tricking your audience. And as always, no money were mentioned, so supposedly it was a free threesome just because you are so charming.
And your story about the girl who finished "almost 2 bottles of whiskies" is even more bizarre. Unless the bottles were like 50 ML, she would've gotten severely intoxicated and puked all over your place. Instead, she managed to rape you. For free, of course.
If a person writes something and draws from another source, why is that person afraid to quote the source he draws from? That makes the writer lazy or a liar.
If a man can buy a 80 inch Television but instead chooses to buy a 32 inch Television because that particular item is just not that important to him does that make him a looser.
What if instead he chooses to spend his time making money on the internet and so he bought 2 32 inch computer monitors and a upgraded computer instead of the big screen television?
I find the views of certain posting individuals regarding money to be wack. And if you are paying for pussy then:
Pussy is Pussy
Continue to ignore that I have said that free pussy is different. Pay as much as you want to maintain the best pussy that you have ever had in the world. I have never had pussy that good. LOL!.
Elvis 2008
09-29-24, 15:11
but take out his money or ability to provide out of the equation, and see how long the relationship will last. Nobody wants to date a brokie, even if their personality is great.I do not get why people say that. If she cut me off sexually, I would leave. If she could not physically have sex, I would not leave her and if I could not physically provide for her and her daughter, she would step up and make enough for all of us. She has been a provider before.
And in marriages where women make a lot of money, the women are way more likely to divorce.
Lastly, you are right, I have no interest in women in their 30's (too old for me) with kids. I do not date single moms, not my cup of tea.You can say that on the internet and believe it. I have seen too many times how men act when they see her in real life. Age is the last thing on their mind.
And many women are not going to tell you if they have kids up front, and they should not. You have probably been out with single moms and not known it.
You do not get that the woman I was dating before her was 24.
And you just gave a reason for women to reject you. The idea that a child could be a positive does not even enter your mind.
I would like to have my own kids sometime in the future.LOL. You are on the internet picking stuff out about people like you pick out things on a burger. You can be the best parents and have a bad or misbehaved kid that will totally take over your life, and you do not get to return them.
Professionals who don't look for financial helpYes, they do. The Colombian professionals I met were all making less than a $1000 per month, and some were in a lot of debt.
They would rather date someone of their age, because there is really no need to date a grandpa, when there is plenty of younger males around, be it at their workplace or social circle.LOL. You do not know that. My gal could date any age group and any beauty range. And yet she went out with me. The only reason can be for money right? And yet, she did not ask for any. If you are suspicious as to why, that makes two of us. If you asked her, and I did, she told me that I understood her and she loved how she felt around me. If you think that is an exception, that women do not care how men make them feel, you do not know anything about women.
And my gal has a gorgeous cousin in her family. I joked about her having a novio, and she said, "Nope, no men for me". She was devastated in a relationship but maybe she will see an older man because one made her cousin happy. She might not go out with someone her own age because someone her own age caused her so much pain.
And you seem to have missed that this "grandpa" rejected an amazing 24 year old. She gave me the impression she cared what her GFs thought about dating someone older, and that bugged me. Thing is once she was done in Medellin, she moved back home, and all those friends were not around her anymore, and she is alone to this day. You say that hot women may not want to date "grandpa", but the very notion that "grandpa" may not want to date or reject them is something you cannot even comprehend.
Again, this is real life. MB, you are just making up these stereotypes about what hot women like, and I am giving you concrete examples where what you say does not hold true.
Thats Jbbee's approach. While it works for you personally, it doesn't tell your audience anything about the quality / looks of your girls.How does someone that refuses to post pictures of the girls he goes with have any standing to make claims that another poster is lying on his dick?
Standing: standing is the right of a party to challenge the conduct of another party in court.. MiamiBoy has no standing to reject or comment the appearance of the girls others talk about. Why? Because he does not post pictures of his girl. Period. Full Stop.
Does he actually believe that you need to pay an attractive girl to fuck you? Can someone else please chime in on this? We have some PUAs among us don't we? You know those who travel all over the world and fuck girls for free.
There is nothing wrong with your statistics. It is the person interpreting them that is out of touch with reality. Did you bother to look how the statistics are compiled? Predominantly married couples. Why is that? Because they have to fill out a marriage license which lists their respective birthdays. Unmarried couples don't fill out any such forms so their age difference is not fairly represented. What does this do? It skews the numbers you are thinking about towards married couples and smaller age gap differences. Even with that you see that the age difference in Medellin is double that of the US. If you quantified unmarried couples the age difference would grow even more. (Yes even in Catholic Colombia that is a common thing, sheesh they even legalized abortion, imagine that).Well, if you have more accurate statistics that includes unmarried couples, I'm all ears. So far, you have only expressed your opinion not backed up by any numbers. Just because you live down there and date a younger woman, or know a couple of gringo expats who do the same, doesn't mean this is a common thing. I know a whole bunch of girls that I used to have arrangements with or date, some of them are currently in relationships and even have kids, and guess what? None of them date grandpas. Their partners are even younger than myself, and I'm not that old. The examples that I know of follow the general trend. Also, the average age gaps we are talking about are insignificant. Okay, the age gap in MDE is double of the USA, so what? Its only 4 fucking years. Heck, even 10 years gap is not that significant because it is technically of the same generation. It all gets fucked up when the age gap is 18+ years. This is when you start feeling a real difference in mentality, things in common, etc. Plus, the looks gap becomes much more pronounced. This is why large age gap relationships are not that common, married or unmarried doesn't matter.
Do you think that men in their 20's and 30's from the US or Europe are coming to Colombia looking for a marriage partner? Is that the point you are trying to shovel? Because I think the answer to that is that those men are in the minority of tourists and they are looking for the same think you are looking for. What made you think that only old farts are looking for a marriage partner? Guys in their 20's and 30's can't look for the same? Yeah, weekend warriors have different goals, but there is plenty of expats living down there full time, or for extended periods of time, and I bet most of them would love to settle down with the right woman. And I'm not only talking about gringos, there is plenty of local guys who are professionals in their 20's and 30's, looking for a relationship. Most girls would prefer to date a local guy as long as he is decent and financially stable.
Yeah, well I'm not dating Barbies. I'll leave them for you. I just wonder how many girls have graciously accepted all your courting, dining, dancing and then went back to the room and gave you the starfish treatment hoping you would finish fast so she could collect her bounty and get away. I just bet you sweep them off their feet with your Google Translate conversations that take minutes to cut and paste or maybe you hold the phone 1 inch from her mouth so you can get a good recording.Starfish experience? Very few. I bet every guy on here has fucked a starfish at least once in their lifetime. Sometimes you get bad apples too. I don't use google translate that often, my Spanish is very basic but I can get by. A good percentage of the girls I had arrangements with, spoke English, so that helped. And just for the record, English is not my native language, and Spanish is not my second.
Look, I'm giving you shit. You don't do anything that hasn't been done here a thousand times each week. You came, you saw you fucked you had fun you left. Sounds like a good formula. When Colombia stops being fun, you'll try Europe and the FKKs in Germany or the brothels in Prague and Budapest and then you'll discover Romania. Like I said, been there, done that. Just because you are older doesn't mean you know everything. You think I'm a typical weekend warrior, but I'm not. A tourist? Technically, yes. But I don't roll like a weekend warrior and have been coming to Colombia since 2016. I have been to other countries as well, and I'm certainly not interested in the brothels you suggested.
I don't think you are in the market to establish a meaningful long term relationship. So for you it makes sense to exclude women in the 25-35 range. I personally think that is where the most amazing jewels can be found. Still young enough to have their beauty and in addition you get some mind-warping sex. Best of all the women in this age group are more mature (for the most part. They are Colombianas after all). It would mean looking and learning some language and cutting down on the prostitutes, well who knows. One day you may grow up and look for something substantial.You see, the 25-35 range for you is not that wide because you are older. For me, this is a big variance. I generally would not touch a woman older than 30 yo (why would I? I have other options).
My perfect range is 21-26, a college student or fresh out of college, no kids, low mileage. I have had the best experience with this age group, not only in bed, but in general.
Got give credit where credit is due. Furthermore his ideas apply worldwide. I have multi country experience. Not just a one country International Trick.
I don't think you are in the market to establish a meaningful long term relationship. So for you it makes sense to exclude women in the 25-35 range. I personally think that is where the most amazing jewels can be found. Still young enough to have their beauty and in addition you get some mind-warping sex. Best of all the women in this age group are more mature (for the most part. They are Colombianas after all). It would mean looking and learning some language and cutting down on the prostitutes, well who knows. One day you may grow up and look for something substantial.He stunned him with that right upper cut. Standing 10 count.
I am a free man Financially Independent. I choose the girls that I decide to. The ones that choose me. I spend the money I earned how I choose to. Not anyone else. And if someone wants to come on the internet and call me a loser that is fine by me. But please note all you International Tricks out there talking shit: if you are still working you don't have anything going better than me. Because if you are still working you're a squandering the most important asset that you have in your life. TIME.
If you are still sucking on the teat of your country of origin, you are not like me. I trick internationally because I live in the country of the girls who are prostituting themselves. I am not a lame ass fuck that cannot get pussy in his country of origin with all the advantages of being, young rich and white. LOL!. You have to get on a mother fucking plane and fly to another country to get pussy. How lame is that? You wish you could be like me, pussy on call, knowledgable about world financial affairs and financially independent.
Anytime you would like to become a real man and step out from behind your computer screen in order to address me face to face, you let me know. Otherwise just continue to be a keyboard warrior who exits only as a ISG character.What an idiot you are. So, you motherfucker could not handle your country of origin, got the fuck out and now you are bragging about it? What a loser. Didn't you have to get on a mother fucking plane and fly to another country to get pussy too?
Do you actually realize that people might have the jobs they love in their country of origin? Have families, friends? Contracts / Responsibilities? Do you realize some people actually love their country of origin, with all its pros and cons?
Aren't you the one always saying you don't judge other men and that you are at peace with yourself and all others? So now you are saying that everyone who doesn't have the lifestyle you have is lame? WTF? What about someone younger in their 20's or 30's still working their asses off to become financially independent one day? Yes, mother fucker, people have to fucking work. Don't even compare your retired old ass with someone trying to make it in the US. You are not better than anyone else. I would never want your miserable life.
Got give credit where credit is due. Furthermore his ideas apply worldwide. I have multi country experience. Not just a one country International Trick.
He stunned him with that right upper cut. Standing 10 count.No, dumbass, he missed.
Elvis 2008
09-29-24, 20:35
Because if you are still working you're a squandering the most important asset that you have in your life. TIME.I am sorry you never liked your work, SC. Granted, if you worked a government job like TSA and are now living off a government pension, I could see why your think your time was squandered, and you have broken "free". I retired at 39 for five years and was bored out of my mind, so I do not envy you. I pity you. No work meant no purpose, and studies show those who quit working die sooner than those who do not. Retirement was not a dream but was a nightmare. I like my work. Obviously, that is a concept you do not get.
You have to get on a mother fucking plane and fly to another country to get pussy. How lame is that? You wish you could be like me.Getting pussy in the USA is not a problem. Being around American women is a different story. And no, I do not envy someone like you who is making excuses for fucking ugly women.
Elvis 2008
09-29-24, 20:41
Got give credit where credit is due. Furthermore his ideas apply worldwide. I have multi country experience. Not just a one country International Trick.
He stunned him with that right upper cut. Standing 10 count.Someone does not know the difference between a fight and a difference of opinion.
By this definition, a prostitute that you fuck on some regular basis is your girlfriend.Incorrect. My girlfriend is whomever I agree to be my girlfriend.
And since I am not weighted down by appearances in society like the Medellin Clown Car crew I don't care if my girlfriend is a prostitute. I laugh at the International Tricks that wine and dine her and pay her money to spend the night having sex with them. Then she gets up and brings me breakfast before going to work. After work she comes by and sees me. And she does not have her hand out. Just remember my six is your 8. LOL!.
I have been to other countries as wellYes, after looking trough 6 pages of your posting history I see you posted about seeking in the Brazil threats. Congraduations: You are now officially a TWO COUNTRY INTERNATIONAL TRICK! LOL!
What an idiot you are. How old are you? I emancipated myself from the wage slave plantations of the United States of America at the age of 37. Holla! Who is the idiot now?
So, you motherfucker could not handle your country of origin, got the fuck out and now you are bragging about it?You could not handle the country of origin nor the one you currently reside in. Didn't you mention in a reply to me that you were NOT and American Citizen? Or are you a United States Citizen but not from there originally? I am confused.
What a loser. Occasional I lose while trading yes. In fact I just took a loss after I shorted $ADA. It moved against me and stopped me out. But I got right back up on my hours and I shorted it again. Still have not moved into profit (down about 3. 25% as I write this) but the set up is solid. Lets see how the red and green candles appear for the next few hours or days. Good risk return ratio now that I seeing things correct. Don't get me wrong. This isn't work. No one is benefiting from my success of failure other than I am. What I am doing is being a Capitalist. And what does a Capitalist do gentlemen. They allocate capital. LOL!
But not say that over all I am a loser. I would consider myself a loser if I had my entire self worth tied up in what others thought of me to point where I have fantasies about waking into a restaurant with a beautiful girl my their arm. Soaking in the looks of envy that others are giving me because she's is a (8, 9 or 10 still have not figured out why some these mother fuckers need a 30% range of attractiveness to get pussy).
My fantasies are much more mundane. Mine are about walking into a room after they start playing: "Hail to the Chief". My first ride on Air Force One. Being shown how the nuclear codes work by my military aide. LOL!
Didn't you have to get on a mother fucking plane and fly to another country to get pussy too?Nope, fucked over 300+ girls in my country of origin before I left.
I left for the challenge as I had visited 48 of the 50 states and I saw the hand writing on the wall for the decline of the United States of America. After a police officer pulled a gun on me during a routine traffic stop for driving while black. I decided it was time to get out of the United States of America before a police officer killed my ass or the KKK lynched me by dragging behind the Medellin Clown Car.
One of my brothers from another Mother that I had traveled with to the Dominican Republic invited me to explore it as a place to live. So I got on a plane from LAS to SDQ. The rest was history. Pussy was not my draw. It was not my draw when I moved to Colombia. It was not my draw when I moved to Thailand. In each and very case people that I would trust with my life recommended that I explore the three countries that I mentioned.
Do you actually realize that people might have the jobs they love in their country of origin? Have families, friends? Contracts / Responsibilities? If your country of origin is to great why did you leave it and move to the United States of America? I have learn over my life and developing wisdom is that you can love your job, but your job will never love you back. I love the people in my life for making my life better. That its. Never seen anyone take any material goods when them when they day. My and my Mother were making plans to see each other in three months. We had dinner out with her grandchildren. It was a glorious day. By 0200 the next morning. She was dead.
MiamiBoy, don't you ever talk to me about what I realize or don't realize about life. All it does it make you look smaller as a man than you already are. You really need to grow up my man. Because your replies show me you have a lot of self development ahead of you. First thing you need to work on is your arrogance.
Do you realize some people actually love their country of origin, with all its pros and cons?If the United States of America is so great why do you fly to other countries to get pussy? Apologies. If you are not flying to other countries to get pussy I am very proud of your desire for personal development by exposing yourself to other cultures. LOL!
Aren't you the one always saying you don't judge other men and that you are at peace with yourself and all others?I am saying that. And I don't judge others. I only judge you. I do not have a problem judging those who judge me. See the next quote below.
Don't even compare your retired old ass with someone trying to make it in the US. You are not better than anyone else. I would never want your miserable life.You know what is so funny about statement. I made it in the very country where you are still a wage slave on a corporate plantation. If you don't want my life, so be it. STFU! Stay a wage slave.
I have a been a wage slave on a corporate / government plantation, I emaciated myself from it. I have been a free man and emancipated for longer that I was a wage slave. I would say that is a win considering most people spend way more time as wage slaves than they do emancipated. Notice I call it the way I see it. If you don't like it, put me on ignore.
You better hope to live as long as I do. If you do you might be able to have a life half as good as the one I have had. I don't mind being called old. I cannot get into a physical conflict with a young man. That young man would hand me my ass. But see what happens to that same young man when gets hit by 125 grain mass traveling at 1450 fps (p = mv) at point blank range John Wick Style. Us old folks call that The Equalizer.
So now you are saying that everyone who doesn't have the lifestyle you have is lame? No I am saying individuals talking shit to me about my lifestyle are lame. I would include you in the group.
I am saying that your ideas of what constitutes beauty are lame.
I am saying your focus on appearance over personality is lame.
I sam saying your idea that spending more money than the next person makes you better is lame.
I am saying the way you write and respond to others along with spending most of your time posting in this thread while providing very little information on actually having sex with girls is lame.
The above is how I use the word lame when I apply to you. Lame is as Lame does.
WTF?This is the question I ask myself each and every time I read one of your posts.
What about someone younger in their 20's or 30's still working their asses off to become financially independent one day.What about them. You write your response to me as if I don't remember what it was like to be in that position. Remember that was my life until was 37. Please don't rack your brain to figure out how I did it. That does not make me any better or worse than anyone else. I am no better or worse than anyone else. Remember I am lame.
I've been called a Socialist. That is why I was able to stop working at 37. I've been called a Socialist . That is why the stock market has made a major contribution to my becoming a capitalist. I've been called a Socialist. That is why I own a business. I've been called a Socialist. That is why I invest in crypto.
Am I a socialist MiamiBoy?
Yes, mother fucker, people have to fucking work.I know. I still work. I just don't work for the plantation owner. I am the owner of my own capital and I put it to work on my behalf and accept the losses or reap the benefits. I.
Along with make a point use my old Big Black Dick put in work as much as possible on some young pussy 20 to 30 years younger than I am in whatever country I happen to be. It should be noted that I did not hire a prostitute until I was 50 years old. So I ask you young guys, what the fuck is your problem?
How you like me now?
I do not get why people say that. If she cut me off sexually, I would leave. If she could not physically have sex, I would not leave her and if I could not physically provide for her and her daughter, she would step up and make enough for all of us. She has been a provider before. Didn't you just say the professionals you met make less than $1000? I guess your girl is an exception and makes more, but you have yet to see what's going to happen if you lose income.
And many women are not going to tell you if they have kids up front, and they should not. You have probably been out with single moms and not known it. And she actually should. I always ask them prior to meeting. Sure, they can lie about it, but what's the point? Eventually I will find out, and cut her loose (not only because she has kids, but also because she lied about it. Who wants to date a liar? Not me.
And you just gave a reason for women to reject you. The idea that a child could be a positive does not even enter your mind. And that's fine. I will reject her first. I don't view raising someone's kid as a positive, I want to raise my own kids and take responsibility for them. Bro, don't promote dating single moms because you happen to date one. Like I said before, single moms are not of my interest, period.
LOL. You are on the internet picking stuff out about people like you pick out things on a burger. You can be the best parents and have a bad or misbehaved kid that will totally take over your life, and you do not get to return them.I'm willing to take the risk. At least, I will be raising my own kids, my own blood. Not someone else's. BTW, any woman will always put her kid first, and you, the stepdad, second.
Yes, they do. The Colombian professionals I met were all making less than a $1000 per month, and some were in a lot of debt.But your girl is an exception, right? BTW, it was not me but Villainy who brought it up. He said you got to meet a girl who is independent and not looking for financial help. You two don't have a consensus here.
LOL. You do not know that. My gal could date any age group and any beauty range. And yet she went out with me. The only reason can be for money right? And yet, she did not ask for any. If you are suspicious as to why, that makes two of us. If you asked her, and I did, she told me that I understood her and she loved how she felt around me. If you think that is an exception, that women do not care how men make them feel, you do not know anything about women.Yet, you do provide. And that's fine.
And my gal has a gorgeous cousin in her family. I joked about her having a novio, and she said, "Nope, no men for me". She was devastated in a relationship but maybe she will see an older man because one made her cousin happy. She might not go out with someone her own age because someone her own age caused her so much pain.This has nothing to do with the age. One can be an asshole at any age. Eventually she will move on and find someone else, and it doesn't have to be an older dude.
And you seem to have missed that this "grandpa" rejected an amazing 24 year old. She gave me the impression she cared what her GFs thought about dating someone older, and that bugged me. Thing is once she was done in Medellin, she moved back home, and all those friends were not around her anymore, and she is alone to this day. You say that hot women may not want to date "grandpa", but the very notion that "grandpa" may not want to date or reject them is something you cannot even comprehend. You rejected her not because of her age, but because there were things about her that you didn't like. No wonder she can't find a gringo grandpa in the village she came from.
Elvis 2008
09-30-24, 05:49
Didn't you just say the professionals you met make less than $1000? I guess your girl is an exception and makes more, but you have yet to see what's going to happen if you lose income. Yet, you do provide. And that's fine.LOL. Yeah, I have. I was not giving her anything the first six months we went out. OTOH, you are paying women all the time and saying they like you because you are younger. Hell, I told you I was seeing women without paying, and you argued with me about it.
And she actually should. I always ask them prior to meeting. Sure, they can lie about it, but what's the point? Eventually I will find out, and cut her loose (not only because she has kids, but also because she lied about it. Who wants to date a liar? Not me.I am confused. Are you paying the women you date? Why would they not lie and tell you what you want to hear and keep collecting cash? And how are you going to find out? That sounds pretty creepy.
And that's fine. I will reject her first. I don't view raising someone's kid as a positive, I want to raise my own kids and take responsibility for them. Bro, don't promote dating single moms because you happen to date one. Like I said before, single moms are not of my interest, period. I'm willing to take the risk. At least, I will be raising my own kids, my own blood. Not someone else's. BTW, any woman will always put her kid first, and you, the stepdad, second.LOL. You can say you would reject the woman here because she has a kid, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apkAvzqCITw.
But no one would believe you.
I am not telling you to seek out single mothers, but if you really are looking for the best women, it is a mistake to be so close minded. One in 36 kids in the USA is born with autism. I have a nephew who is autistic and bites, fights, and destroys. If he ends up being a janitor, the parents would give thanks. 80% of parents with an autistic child get divorced. And you think a wife with "your" kid is not going to put you second? As for why a woman would pick someone older over you, that attitude right there is why. You are too immature. You can learn how to be a father, but you have a long way to go with your attitude.
When you guys keep bringing up this money thing, it just shows me how few guys can get out of the john mode. Would your mother have left your father and abandoned you if he did not provide? When a relationship is hooker-john, sure it will run out when the money you pay is gone. When the relationship is real, and if something happened, and I could not provide, friends and family, the people we have relationships with, would step in, and a big reason why would be the well being of the child.
A good kid will make a relationship better. A bad one will make it worse. You think a kid can only worsen a relationship. That is just dumb, really, really dumb.
You rejected her not because of her age, but because there were things about her that you didn't like.I rejected her because I found someone better.
No wonder she can't find a gringo grandpa in the village she came from.LOL. A charming, cute, smart professional 20 something woman who is good in bed can easily find a grandpa anywhere. The sex, fun, intelligence, and companionship I provided are a lot harder to come by. That you think none of that matters blows me away.
My gal's daughter and I have become close over time so close that she has has told me if something happened to her mom, she wants me to care for her. I thought that was really sweet and I told her I would. If this does not melt your heart, you do not have one.
What gets me MB is you keep going on about the hottest women. You have shown no one anything about why these women like you. This pains me to say it but when it comes to women showing real affection for the men, Viliany, Mr. E, and even fucking JJBee have shown me more than you have. All you talk about is how much you spend, how hot they are, and that you are young. You just sound like you are fucking expensive hookers.
If you think women want men with youth over men who make good fathers, you know nothing about women.
Granted, if you worked a government job like TSA and are now living off a government pension, I could see why your think your time was squandered, and you have broken "free".Can someone name a government job where the retirement age is 37? Who in the TSA has a diplomatic passport?
I am sorry you never liked your work, SC. From the time I left university (top ten in my country of origin) I have NEVER liked being a wage slave on a corporate / government plantation.
I like my work. Obviously, that is a concept you do not get.Now if you owned your own business from the get, as the founder of a business, I can understand why you may have enjoyed your work. But even as a owner of a business I do not like being boss. What I like is having people work for me and making money. Management of the business is some bullshit. I would much rather make decisions on the allocation of capital and type on my computer and phone to do it.
if you worked a government job like TSA and are now living off a government pensionWhy is it that it never occurred to you that there were other factors that could have come into play? Why is it that you used this illustration in order to demean the circumstances that led to this black man emancipating himself from his wage slave status under his corporate / government plantation masters and becoming a self emancipated free man? Or is it because the TSA gets in the way of your mad rush to become a International Trick and so you take it out on me?
Can we explore a few facts? I've been emaciated for longer than I worked. That would mean that if I started working for the government (did you grow up in the United States of America?) after I graduated from University the TSA was not in existence correct. When did the TSA come into existence (did you actually live in the United States of America during your young adult life)? November 19,2001. Gentleman can we all help E2008 do the math?
I experience the same small mindless half way across the world here in Pattaya, Thailand. White farangs who think they own the mother fucking place. Don't like seeing Black Americans here in Thailand. I have had to tell more than one of them that they had a choice. One of us can goto the morgue and the other can goto a Thai jail for life. They got out of my face and kept on stepping.
Homie dont play dat!
Why is it that a black man cannot be financial independent without government assistance? Since when did a pension become a bad thing? In my youth you had the choice of job with a pension, or big money in investment banking or consulting. I wanted the big money! I could not get into investment banking or consulting (despite graduating top of my class) so I took what I could get. Once again, who earns a pension in business or government at 37?.
Getting pussy in the USA is not a problem. Being around American women is a different story.Fuck yeah, a point of agreement
I do not envy someone like you who is making excuses for fucking ugly women.I understand that. It is how you compensate for the fact that my 6s are your 8s!
Someone does not know the difference between a fight and a difference of opinion.I know the difference
Why didn't you have anything to say when MiamiBoy wanted to tie me to the trailer hitch of the Medellin Clown Car and have you as driver drag me to my death the way they used to lynch people in my country of origin?
My question remains why do some people need to call me names when we are just having a different of opinion?
Does this idiot get the concept of supply and demand or is he another socialist that he thinks that he deserves better service because of his virtue signaling?
This pains me to say it but when it comes to women showing real affection for the men, Viliany, Mr. E, and even fucking JJBee have shown me more than you have. All you talk about is how much you spend, how hot they are, and that you are young. You just sound like you are fucking expensive hookers.Read your whole post once but I agree with all you have said based on my observation. Rarely see anyone as close minded on almost everything including race, sex and age.
The master girl brings her entertainer sidekick with her
The master suddenly told me she was going to introduce her family to me. I asked your family? she said her primos. I was thinking, why not primas. Hehe. She went home to change. I proposed to go to the clubs and I would pay the expenses. She insisted that my apartment was better because it would be much cheaper, I could not argue with that.
They showed up after midnight when I was expecting them to arrive around 8 or 9. She brough another sidekick that I met about 2 weeks ago. This one is GND. She told me the entertainer was very rude to GND. I told her she was jealous. Tall runs in her family. The cousins are tall and very stylish, clothing, hair and beard. She said her father is even taller. The cousins were really caring. Very friendly and explained to me things so I did not get lost. I have very low tolerance to almost any substance I know, including alcohol. The cousin kept giving me water and non-alcoholic drinks thru out the party. Small gestures that I appreciated. One cousin made a heart gesture to indicate the master girl like me. The cousins ordered all the stuff needed from my rappi account and elsewhere. They left after sunrise.
I understand the risk, and the illusion because I am paying. I am just reporting my experience.
LOL. Yeah, I have. I was not giving her anything the first six months we went out. OTOH, you are paying women all the time and saying they like you because you are younger. Hell, I told you I was seeing women without paying, and you argued with me about it. Some women, smarter ones, like to play a long game. They don't ask for money initially, but they know the right guy will support them down the road. If you were a janitor, barely supporting yourself, these freebies wouldn't date you because there was zero chance of you supporting them in the future, let's be real here, Elvis. I'm paying because I can't play a long game with them, I don't live in Colombia permanently, and they know it. Also, I'm not ready to settle down just yet. I enjoy having a few girls in rotation, and ppm works best for me. Some girls like me, some do not, and that's fine, because I'm not a $100 bill for everyone to like. The girls like me not only because I'm younger, but because I can show them a good time, I have great personality, and on top of that, they get paid. Win win situation.
I am confused. Are you paying the women you date? Why would they not lie and tell you what you want to hear and keep collecting cash? And how are you going to find out? That sounds pretty creepy.How do I find out? It is easy, Elvis. I'm not blind, I can see the baby damage. Protruding belly button, scars, etc. Heck, I can tell if a woman has a kid just by looking at her bikini photos. And I will be 95% correct. Also, social media accounts. If she has a kid, oftentimes she will post pics or stories. Some women are stupid enough to put "prefer not say" in the kids section of SA profile, which automatically means she got one. Also, as I said earlier, I meet younger college girls, who are less likely to have a kid. Finding a 35 yo hot woman with no kids might be a challenge.
I am not telling you to seek out single mothers, but if you really are looking for the best women, it is a mistake to be so close minded. One in 36 kids in the USA is born with autism. I have a nephew who is autistic and bites, fights, and destroys. If he ends up being a janitor, the parents would give thanks. 80% of parents with an autistic child get divorced. And you think a wife with "your" kid is not going to put you second? As for why a woman would pick someone older over you, that attitude right there is why. You are too immature. You can learn how to be a father, but you have a long way to go with your attitude. For me, the best women out there are not single mothers. Why do I have to settle on a single mom when I have other, better options? I don't live on a freaking deserted island. Why would a woman pick someone older? Because that older sucker has limited options, and she fucking knows it. If the sucker likes her, he got to suck it up and accept the fact that she comes with a package. Or maybe he already had his own kids with his ex-wife, so he no longer cares about spreading his seed. Guess what? Most of the times, it is an older dude willing to accept someone's kid, not a younger dude.
A good kid will make a relationship better. A bad one will make it worse. You think a kid can only worsen a relationship. That is just dumb, really, really dumb.You literally just said a bad kid will make a relationship worse. LOL. I don't want to be raising someone's good or bad kid. I want to raise my own, and do everything I can to make them grow into a great person. It is dumb to think that the way you raise your kids has nothing to do with what they will become.
LOL. A charming, cute, smart professional 20 something woman who is good in bed can easily find a grandpa anywhere. The sex, fun, intelligence, and companionship I provided are a lot harder to come by. That you think none of that matters blows me away. Why is she still single up to this day? Now that she doesn't have her MDE friends who used to comment on her relationships. Are you the only grandpa out there who is fun and intelligent? Let's be real, some pueblos have virtually zero gringo expats.
What gets me MB is you keep going on about the hottest women. You have shown no one anything about why these women like you. This pains me to say it but when it comes to women showing real affection for the men, Viliany, Mr. E, and even fucking JJBee have shown me more than you have. All you talk about is how much you spend, how hot they are, and that you are young. You just sound like you are fucking expensive hookers.
What puzzles me, Elvis, is now, that you settled down with the best woman on Earth, and raise her wonderful kid, and all is perfect, and rainbows and unicorns, you are still posting here daily, replying to me and some idiots like Shit Cmdr. Why is that? You are no longer mongering, no longer pay for play, no longer fucking other women, no longer in the game. Do you do this out of boredom?
And what exactly do you want me to show you? I keep my relationships and arrangements private, I don't post about them on a public forum, I don't post pics either, you know it. And frankly, I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I have briefly answered your question in my prior post, but I won't be giving you specific details, like Nounce does.
And what exactly do you want me to show you? I keep my relationships and arrangements private, I don't post about them on a public forum, I don't post pics either, you know it. And frankly, I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I have briefly answered your question in my prior post, but I won't be giving you specific details, like Nounce does.Then stop talking your wack mess to others. Answer the questions I have proposed you. You talk, talk, talk. But you don't back anything up. But you are good at calling names.
Remember this is just a difference of opinion!
Some women, smarter ones, like to play a long game. They don't ask for money initially, but they know the right guy will support them down the road. Seriously? How long have you been coming to Colombia? Short term thinking is 1 minute, long term thinking is 1 hour. There I just gave you a better understanding. When you have nothing (or next to nothing) as most girls do, there is no "long game".
OTOH, you are paying women all the time (talking about MiamiBoy1)and saying they like you because you are younger. Hell, I told you I was seeing women without paying, and you argued with me about it.
I am confused. Are you paying the women you date? Why would they not lie and tell you what you want to hear (referencing having had a child) and keep collecting cash? And how are you going to find out? That sounds pretty creepy.What can I say, Elvis isn't the only one who is (or has been) dating Colombian women without it being a pay-for-play transaction. And MiamiBoy, we're not talking about fuglies either.
I would love to show you an abdominal foto of a woman I saw a few times. She has two children and no cesarean scar or stretch-marks. Not a chance in hell if you saw her body you would guess she has had two children.
I am not telling you to seek out single mothers, but if you really are looking for the best women, it is a mistake to be so close minded And you think a wife with "your" kid is not going to put you second? Elvis beat me to it. Women are programmed to protect and nurture their children above all else. MiamiBoy, if you think you will find a woman who will put you above your children, well, I have to say it: you don't understand women.
If you think women want men with youth over men who make good fathers, you know nothing about women.You would do well to remember that quote from Elvis.
Elvis 2008
09-30-24, 19:46
What puzzles me, Elvis, is now, that you settled down with the best woman on Earth, and raise her wonderful kid, and all is perfect, and rainbows and unicorns, you are still posting here daily, replying to me and some idiots like Shit Cmdr. Why is that? You are no longer mongering, no longer pay for play, no longer fucking other women, no longer in the game. Do you do this out of boredom?I asked you a question, and you went off on me. I think that is very telling.
And what exactly do you want me to show you? I keep my relationships and arrangements private, I don't post about them on a public forum, I don't post pics either, you know it. And frankly, I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I have briefly answered your question in my prior post, but I won't be giving you specific details, like Nounce does.You ask a question and answered it yourself. Nounce provided one of his real experiences. You have shown none.
Why is she still single up to this day? Now that she doesn't have her MDE friends who used to comment on her relationships..She is a very accomplished, sweet, charming woman. I think most guys would be lucky to have her. That you have to put her down speaks volumes about you.
Some girls like me, some do not, and that's fine, because I'm not a $100 bill for everyone to like. The girls like me not only because I'm younger, but because I can show them a good time, I have great personality, and on top of that, they get paid. Win win situation..You are doing the SC thing and contradicting yourself. Not everybody likes me but they like that I am younger. You are not giving any examples of a woman who likes you. Not one. You are saying women like you because you are younger because that is what YOU want to believe.
And maybe the reason some women do not like you is because you are immature and they want someone older who is mature. Like SC, you are digging your own grave.
They don't ask for money initially, but they know the right guy will support them down the road. If you were a janitor, barely supporting yourself, these freebies wouldn't date you because there was zero chance of you supporting them in the future, let's be real here, Elvis. I'm paying because I can't play a long game with them, I don't live in Colombia permanently, and they know it. Also, I'm not ready to settle down just yet.Even when I was not paying, it is about money. OMG.
The reason I mentioned the CEO story is because most young people are worried about their future. The kind of life conversation that CEO gave me, I give to other people all the time. And the concept of a life time of earnings versus a few $ goes over your head.
Unlike other guys here, I had what you have for decades. I could have it back now and ten years from now. You do not have it now because you are young.
Occasional I lose while trading yes. In fact I just took a loss after I shorted $ADA. It moved against me and stopped me out.
But I got right back up on my hours and I shorted it again. Still have not moved into profit (down about 3. 25% as I write this) but the set up is solid. Lets see how the red and green candles appear for the next few hours or days. Good risk return ratio now that I seeing things correct. Don't get me wrong. This isn't work. No one is benefiting from my success of failure other than I am. What I am doing is being a Capitalist. And what does a Capitalist do gentlemen. They allocate capital. LOL!The above trade I mentioned? It hit my TP and increased my capital 40% in a matter of hours. I did not close out the entire trade. I am letting the rest of it ride. I have moved my SL to a point where I will still be in profit if the market reverses on me. Currently, as I write this my unrealized gain is bouncing between 56-57%.
ATF in Colombia needs some money. I'm going to send her some of my profits.
How you like me now? ROTFLMAO
Elvis 2008
10-01-24, 02:35
I understand the risk, and the illusion because I am paying. I am just reporting my experience.Stories like that are ones that I like to read and part of the reason I keep coming back to the site. This master girl lets her cousin know she likes you. Does she really like you or is this just a plot to suck you dry financially? The popular answer is to say look at her and look at how old you are, she cannot be into you, but is that the right answer? My guess would be no, and here is why.
I was watching the movie Office Space with my gal and her daughter. There is a person in there you are supposed to not like: bad acne, fat, glasses, mumbling voice, does not work. The director may as well have tattooed loser on him and the boss treats him as such and the joke is in the end, this loser wins. What got me is that both women HATED how the man was being treated. They empathized with him in a way IMO few American women would.
My gal, her daughter, and I were going out and doing fun things, and I knew that the daughter had a limited amount of fun with just us. I told her she could invite her friends, and it is implied I am paying for them because she asks how many. What I have found is that with American kids they are not that grateful. They have more of a you are lucky I showed up at your party kind of attitude.
I might joke with these girls or play a game with them if they ask me to but for the most part I stay in the background. The main reason I pay for this is to make my gal's kid happy but also I like to show people a good time especially kids. So the fun event is over, and all these girls come up to me and say thank you, a few even hug me which I did not expect, and they have had so much fun they are asking my gal's daughter when I am coming back in town. I was like wow, these girls really appreciate it when someone is nice to them; it is way different than the USA.
I would be shocked if they were not all virgins, but in a few years, they will all be in college and presumably on the market, but they all have different tastes in men / boys even at that age, and they are different mentally.
The prettiest girl IMO is a thin girl who dances ballet, and she suffers from such severe anxiety she could not get out of the bathroom at her own Quincera. And this fits what I said before about the best looking women usually having mental health issues. And you got MB saying he has the best woman. But money is not going to be enough to get close to this women. You have to beat that anxiety monkey off her back to have a shot with her. If you do not know stuff like this, you are probably not getting the best women IMO. She thinks if she goes to the grocery store she might die so she is not going to give a shit about your age or pec muscles.
And my gal would say she was so much happier when I was in town. It is not like I did not believe her but I was like is it really me or the fun things we are doing? One time I could tell she was really missing me and vice versa so I made a quick short trip to Colombia to see her and she had a friend staying with her. When I told my gal I was coming, her friend told me that my gal was a different person. Her daughter has said the same thing. Mom lights up when you are coming to town and often cries when you leave.
Point is Nounce in my experience when the girl brings in family, and family says the girl likes you, that means the girl likes you.
I would say that you need to look at the pictures of these so-called stunners willing to accept 250 k and it just might be a difference of opinon as to what qualifies as a stunningly beautiful girl and then it makes more sense.And that is why the whole numbering system is completely stupid. What is a 9 or 10 to knowledge may be a 4 or 5 to you. It is entirety subjective and varies from person to person. For example I don't care much for nig tits, I prefer perky be-cups over a DD rack. Some guys like skinny spinners, some guys like fat black asses. The whole numbering system is stupid. And if you guys are actually paying $200 usd to $300 usd you are. Only enabling them. Do you really think the normal Colombian men in the Barrios would be paying them that much??
But it's your money your dick so if you want to be a fool with it and trick it off, hey it's up to you.
It's like you're paying $300 usd for a share of KO stock that's valued at $72 then you say well my share looks better than yours jajajaja.
At the end of the day it's worth the same as all the other shares, it's worth it's market value.
And that is why the whole numbering system is completely stupid. What is a 9 or 10 to knowledge may be a 4 or 5 to you. It is entirety subjective and varies from person to person. For example I don't care much for nig tits, I prefer perky be-cups over a DD rack. Some guys like skinny spinners, some guys like fat black asses. The whole numbering system is stupid. And if you guys are actually paying $200 usd to $300 usd you are. Only enabling them. Do you really think the normal Colombian men in the Barrios would be paying them that much??
But it's your money your dick so if you want to be a fool with it and trick it off, hey it's up to you.
It's like you're paying $300 usd for a share of KO stock that's valued at $72 then you say well my share looks better than yours jajajaja.
At the end of the day it's worth the same as all the other shares, it's worth it's market value.Big tits.
Seriously? How long have you been coming to Colombia? Short term thinking is 1 minute, long term thinking is 1 hour. There I just gave you a better understanding. When you have nothing (or next to nothing) as most girls do, there is no "long game".Since 2016. Obviously long game applies to the girls who are not desperate to earn a quick buck because they are broke as fuck and need to put food on the table. My comment was addressed at Elvis and his gal, and I bet she wasn't desperate when they met, she could provide for herself and her daughter. Why the fuck do you respond to the comment that was not addressed at you and pull whatever I said out of context?
What can I say, Elvis isn't the only one who is (or has been) dating Colombian women without it being a pay-for-play transaction. And MiamiBoy, we're not talking about fuglies either.Congrats! You deserve a medal.
I would love to show you an abdominal foto of a woman I saw a few times. She has two children and no cesarean scar or stretch-marks. Not a chance in hell if you saw her body you would guess she has had two children.I said I would be 95% correct. Not 100% correct.
Elvis beat me to it. Women are programmed to protect and nurture their children above all else. MiamiBoy, if you think you will find a woman who will put you above your children, well, I have to say it: you don't understand women.I somewhat agree with this, but if you are not biological father of her kids, you are just a tool she uses to " protect and nurture her children above all else". If the relationship doesn't work, she will find a replacement, not a big deal. Because technically (unless you get married and get her kids legally adopted) you are just a stranger to her kids. Some dude that fucks their mom and pays for shit.
Then stop talking your wack mess to others. Answer the questions I have proposed you. You talk, talk, talk. But you don't back anything up. But you are good at calling names.
Remember this is just a difference of opinion!Are we in the fucking court room? I don't have to answer your stupid questions, Subpar Cmdr.
Are we in the fucking court room? I don't have to answer your stupid questions, Cmdr.No we are not in a courtroom MiamiChild. If we were you would have been found in contempt of court by the judge long ago.
But we are men up in dis *****. So it is logic that rules not emotions. It is not logical for you to make comments about the attractiveness of my girls nor the girls of others when you don't show pictures of the girls you claim are 8's - 10's. You an International Trick that be talkin out the side of your neck and lying on your dick.
MongerHunger
10-01-24, 22:01
Has anyone ever wondered what happened to "Osteoknot"? He used to be a prolific poster here and has not made an appearance since over 2 years ago.
Elvis 2008
10-02-24, 02:53
If the relationship doesn't work, she will find a replacement, not a big deal. Because technically (unless you get married and get her kids legally adopted) you are just a stranger to her kids. Some dude that fucks their mom and pays for shit.Do you realize you are coming across like some drunk foolish know-it-all in a bar? Good mothers do not bring men in and out of their child's life.
When a woman gets pregnant, she cannot have sex and is unattractive. One reason women place such value on loyalty is that they choose men who will stick with them when pregnant. Have you demonstrated loyalty to any woman? I know what the guy in the bar would say and can anticipate your response, "Well, no, but if it was my kid, I would. " Every woman has heard that line. It is meaningless.
And then you make this comment about how you would not go out with my woman as if it is your choice. That is like a guy in the bar saying, "I would not go out with Megan Fox. She has kids. " Do you know what guys never say with a 400 pound women? "I would not go out with her. She has kids. " That comment you made about my woman is the kind of comment a loser would make who has never had a 10 type really interested in him.
What gets me MB is that my first SB was come onto by NFL Hall of Famer Demarcus Ware. I have a feeling he was younger, richer, and better looking than you. She turned him down, and you know why? She already had the pro athlete experience. All 10 types I know have had that experience. What has shocked me is how many 6-7 types have had it too.
If you had been with a 10 and really gotten to know her, maybe you would have an idea as to why she was with me and not him. You keep showing me you have never really gotten to know a 10 type. Maybe you have fucked hookers who are really attractive, but that is all.
If she's got a six pack she'd never be higher than a 6 in my book. Throw the poor thing a sandwich or something!
If you're paying like $300-400 USD honestly you may as well just stay in the US already!Actually women who have masculine features such as six pack and and big biceps and triceps etc. Are fucking disgusting. Those a features for a man that's why they are called masculine features. Women are supposed to be in shaped but not masculine. It's better if they are the girl next door type of body.
MiamiBoy might as well have sex with a Male to Female post-op transgender woman. That is basically what he likes if he likes his pussy to have a six pack.
Medclubber
10-02-24, 13:40
MiamiBoy might as well have sex with a Male to Female post-op transgender woman. That is basically what he likes if he likes his pussy to have a six pack.MiamiBoy actually understands the market. You don't or you're just jealous or maybe both. Anyway this whole discussion is just so damn stupid, I already regret even jumping into it.
MiamiBoy actually understands the market. You don't or you're just jealous or maybe both. Anyway this whole discussion is just so damn stupid, I already regret even jumping into it.MiamiBoy understanda the market? Paying $300 usd for a male to female transgender is understanding the market?Ok.
That comment you made about my woman is the kind of comment a loser would make who has never had a 10 type really interested in him.
A woman in her late 30's / pushing 40's will never be a 10 for me, not even close, because she is way past her prime age (beauty wise). I told you what my preference is, I told you I don't want to take responsibility for someone's kid, but you keep attacking me for not wanting to go your route. You can call me a loser all day, but the real loser here is a sucker who couldn't get a younger girl with no kids and start a family with her, and raise your own kids. The kid you are taking care of will always call you "my mom's boyfriend", and you will always call her "my gal's daughter". I'm wondering how long your relationship will last since your gal is pushing 40's and is becoming less attractive day by day. Heck, you are not even married to her. Maybe this is reason you are still posting here daily, because you already know what's coming.
A woman in her late 30's / pushing 40's will never be a 10 for me, not even close, because she is way past her prime age (beauty wise). I told you what my preference is, I told you I don't want to take responsibility for someone's kid, but you keep attacking me for not wanting to go your route. You can call me a loser all day, but the real loser here is a sucker who couldn't get a younger girl with no kids and start a family with her, and raise your own kids. The kid you are taking care of will always call you "my mom's boyfriend", and you will always call her "my gal's daughter". I'm wondering how long your relationship will last since your gal is pushing 40's and is becoming less attractive day by day. Heck, you are not even married to her. Maybe this is reason you are still posting here daily, because you already know what's coming.Keep talking bro Elvis about to throw you out of the clown car.
MiamiBoy actually understands the market. You don't or you're just jealous or maybe both. Anyway this whole discussion is just so damn stupid, I already regret even jumping into it.It is a silly debate. Just go with girls that you like and don't worry about what others think. The one thing that the discussion does show is that everyone has different taste in girls. What one likes may not be what another guy likes and that is not necessarily a bad thing. You know what you want.
As for pricing, I don't worry about the other guy is paying. It doesn't really matter to me. I pay what I want to pay and you guys can pay more or less. It doesn't matter to me. It's not my money that you are spending.
Elvis 2008
10-02-24, 18:34
A woman in her late 30's / pushing 40's will never be a 10 for me, not even close.A 10 is a woman who drives both sexes crazy because of her beauty. That you do not know that means you do not know what a 10 really is. You do not have an objective definition? What a shock! The only women you consider 10's are the expensive hookers you are fucking.
I told you what my preference is, I told you I don't want to take responsibility for someone's kid, but you keep attacking me for not wanting to go your route.No, I am attacking you because you are an insecure, cocky john who does not want to believe guys older than yourself are getting better women than you for cheaper because they have game, and you do not. I wish you would quit thinking you know it all when you know so little.
My first sugar baby was hit on by NFL hall of famer Demarcus Ware, and she turned him down. Call me crazy but I think Demarcus Ware is richer, younger, and better looking than you. It turns out she was not alone. All my sugar babies had been hit on by pro athletes, and they all said the same thing. These men are men in name only. In reality, they are boys and the women wanted men, and I think the same thing about you. If you were a man instead of a boy, maybe you would not have to pay so much money. The other thing that shocked me is how many women griped the athletes were lousy in bed.
You can call me a loser all day, but the real loser here is a sucker who couldn't get a younger girl with no kids and start a family with her, and raise your own kids..When my gal danced at a club in Mexico City, there were so many guys hitting on her, she had to dance between two bouncers. Men are not rational around 10's, and you are this loser who is saying, "Oh, I would be rational. Shit, I might even reject her. " Instead of your false bravado, I was asking her and myself WTF are you doing with me? She said I understood her which I thought was not enough but eventually I got why she was into me.
I'm wondering how long your relationship will last since your gal is pushing 40's and is becoming less attractive day by day.First off, that is stupid. You may be attracted to someone who is attractive but if she does not have character, no matter how hot she is, she will become ugly. Eventually, my dick will go limp with low character women, and I have had other guys say the same thing. There was even a joke about this event in the movie, Forgetting Sarah Marshall. And here we go again. You do not know about this happening? Why not?
Second, when I first went out with my woman and everyone was going nuts about her, I was like, "Do you see what is happening?" There are the car horns, the stares, the crazy cat calling. And then like her, I got used to it, and you get use to the way she looks. It is not as much of a big deal.
You see all that? An objective 10 definition, the Demarcus Ware story, the story about athletes, Mexico City, getting used to the adulation with my gal, the limp dick, getting used to a woman's beauty. Where are your stories? That you do not have any tells me you are fucking hookers. You keep trying to win an argument when in reality you are digging your own grave.
Has anyone ever wondered what happened to "Osteoknot"? He used to be a prolific poster here and has not made an appearance since over 2 years ago.I can confirm that he is alive and doing well.
MongerHunger
10-03-24, 00:44
I can confirm that he is alive and doing well.He must have gotten married 2 years ago and stopped posting because his escapades have since dried up being a one woman man. He has no use for ISG anymore. Good for him. Send him a Congratulations!
Medclubber
10-03-24, 01:00
If you're paying $500 to eat at a restaurant with Joel Robuchon's name on it, you're paying a high price for essentially nothing. LOL after reading this I'm 100% confident you've never eaten there, which of course is ok. But just stop making yourself look stupid by talking about stuff you don't know about.
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