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PedroMorales
11-16-18, 17:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-RzXnz0az0
This youtuber is giving advice if you end up in Thailand. Apparently there are women selling sex in some place called Pattaya. I used to get sex for about 200 baht in the 1980's and I do note the beat has changed. Soon they will have the egg timer. Once the 3 minutes are up, so are you.
Regarding the Japophoibic remarks about 3 Rs, the significance of that was Japanese venturing out beyond their own well-established places and hitting places like Thermae and living to tell the tale. I am sure most proprietors would prefer Japanese who spend m one and behave themselves to Western English language teachers and football hooligans with big egos and bad hygiene habits.
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I can see the whole scene is gradually being taken over by online with private meet ups. I already do mostly private meet ups but I have not progressed to meeting new girls online, being a dinosaur, but I can see it might be necessary. I am yet to know if online is really conducive to checking a girl's looks and attitude in detail. I guess even harder to tell what the girl is really like, than perusing at the Thermae.....Impossible to assess girls' lower bodies online. Even the ones with a good lower body may not advertise it at all. Only the ladyboys seem to know what "body" entails. Another curse of online dating, at least as far as Tinder is concerned, is multiple accounts. Girls who work only online have more than one account. One Thai girl I sessioned (and who proved a disaster) has between 5 and 10 accounts. I know because I keep blocking her yet she keeps coming back like a bad penny under different aliases. I have had 8 different girls over through Tinder and only one I found worth a repeat. She is now in Bali after her Thai visa expired.
Impossible to assess girls' lower bodies online. Even the ones with a good lower body may not advertise it at all. Only the ladyboys seem to know what "body" entails. Another curse of online dating, at least as far as Tinder is concerned, is multiple accounts. Girls who work only online have more than one account. One Thai girl I sessioned (and who proved a disaster) has between 5 and 10 accounts. I know because I keep blocking her yet she keeps coming back like a bad penny under different aliases. I have had 8 different girls over through Tinder and only one I found worth a repeat. She is now in Bali after her Thai visa expired.There are risk in all forms of meeting girls. Online girls can manipulate their pics, there can be some shocks when picking freelancers when they undress and poor performance from go-go and bar girls. Out of my last my last dozen or so on line encounters I have been disappointed with 2 on body shape and 2 with baby damage and one of the body shapes girls was very disappointing in bed as well. I think all in all the girls online will in most cases perform better and will give better value regarding both St and LT encounters regarding time and shots. I think the other variant is if you meet the girl online a day or two before a rapport can be built which makes all the difference and you can let them know your preferences regarding BBBJ and CIM etc.
I find the go-go and bar girls are very time focused, and I can't blame them, but I can't see the value for money they offer in most cases.
My next trip to the LOS is in February and I will be using a larger proportion of On Line girls then Bars and Go-go's.
Rob.
I find the go-go and bar girls are very time focused, and I can't blame them, but I can't see the value for money they offer in most cases.
Obviously you book for a set time for an MP session, so you should get your time. I usually take 90 minutes for a new girl try and sometimes book 2 hours with girls I know well. Sometimes I don't use the full time. No big deal.
It is true, Thermae freelancers, bargirls, and street walkers are all time conscious with the last category being the most problem (because we pay them so little). However only a percentage of bargirls are trying to cheat the customer on time (doing a quicky).
Over several years of doing girls from Sheba, Suzie Wong, Doll House, Crazy House, Shark, and even Baccarat, I did not find many girls at all, to be overly time conscious, so my ST would always be 1 hour to 90 minutes. I had much more time conscious girl problems from Nana Plaza bars, but I really think it just depends on the particular girl. You need to asses the levels of girl impatience carefully before choosing.
So I don't agree. I pay well and expect a decent amount of time, and usually get it from well chosen bargirls / gogo girls. My girl problems are generally more due to being restrictive, dick scared, poor body, poor abilities, starfish, etc. It is probably worth asking a girl how long she believes a ST goes for and how long a LT goes for. Most bar girls do not want to do LT at all, and particularly if the money is not right. So pay low, and for sure the girl becomes very time conscious. My bargirl favourites are all girls with experience and stamina, even much more stamina than I can manage. They become a favourite because they simply don't quit. They have an ethic to earn the money. Sure we don't want lazy quickie type girls. That is one reason why most street walkers fail to be adequate for me, in addition to body problems.
The main reason you would choose the wrong body shape from a gogo girl would be double layer bras completely hiding the tits, or something else hiding railway track bellies. So I don't choose Coyotes wearing a double hard and padded bra that means I cannot tell what the tits are like. I like to see girls wearing as little as possible and leaving not much to the imagination. Topless is way better. I found recently I could still enjoy a 5 Star girl with stunning body and very good face, who was at least cooperative in the room if not particularly responsive. She still did not complain about how long I fucked her. So time was not a problem. She just was more placid (semi star fish) rather than wild and orgasmic that I meet more often. She was naked when chosen, so I knew 100% her body was fabulous for my taste (9 out of 10). She could maybe score a 10 if tits and ass were a little fuller. Still hard to take eyes off her. Exciting for me! Pussy turned out to be tight too. I had to start slowly to compensate.
Don't kid yourself. There are plenty of bargirls that can even enjoy a really good fuck and DATY, as well as take the money. They tend not to be so time conscious when enjoying themselves. Most of them are not going to do many more customers the same night, so no big rush, unless they have some party to get to urgently. Natty Bumpo would agree with me, I am sure. He tends to have even better success rates than me and likes similar types of girls.
I even remember one stunning Crazy House girl (Nat / Nut). She wanted to go to Pattaya that night for a birthday party but still needed to make some money first. She was the hottest girl they had at the time. Young, big natural tits (seemed to be still growing), no surgeries and even face was 8 out of 10. She was therefore very keen for me to BF her, and get out of the bar quickly, without worrying about taking many drinks. Mamasan had probably already indicated to her I had a good reputation with several girls. At ST Hotel nearby she still performed very well and so I did not notice time consciousness. So was a damn good fuck on the bed as well as stunning. So immediately after she could have her friend pick her up and charge off to Pattaya. Unfortunately Nat did not last long at CH.
So sure there are bad types of girls that want a quickie, but it is not bargirls in general in my experience. Choose well, and that should not be the worst problem. Bargirls do want to have a fun time to ease the boredom of the place, and make money.
When are you coming back? Give me the 4000 baht and I will get you in. I don't understand what the big fascination is though.1. Mr. E makes this comment.
The girl I bar fined from Palace said she normally only goes with Japanese. It was a combination of me willing to pay extra and the influence of Monkey Paw over the mamasan that allowed me to get her. And, look at what happened! 6000 baht basically wasted. For 2800 baht I spent the night with a Soi 6 girl who was hot and gave me an awesome GFE. So why should I want to pay 4000 to become a member of a club who has super expensive girls who may not even go with me and if they do will charge me 6000 baht and not even stay and hour and give me a lousy experience? Believe me, I will be thinking about the awesome BBBJ I got from the lowly Soi 6 girl long after I forget the hotness of the high end Palace girl who barely wanted to touch me.2. FL Hawk responds to Mr. E's above comment with an experienced he had at Palace about girl.
It might be that you should be very proud of your results with that 6,000 baht girl. For all anyone knows, you actually got better treatment from that girl in the privacy of a hotel room than MonkeyPaw has ever gotten from any of his so-called "Top Quality" recommended Thai girls. Maybe even better than his teddy bear gets.3. ET responds to FL Hawk post, making this all about Monkeypaw. Do trolls even know they are trolls? Dude? You must have a man crush on somebody. In case you were wondering, yes they are shaved clean and not hairy. Girls like them that way.
Mr. Paw:
Little to no ego?
Paw Dude, I'm fat stoned and silly. Even my mother thinks I'm an idiot. My Team is Millwall, only because of their motto. I drift though life with a smile on my face. Sometimes I go to overpasses at night and watch the traffic and cackle. I talk to the worm guy that slithers down Sukhmavit, but he doesn't understand about the conflict between Noe Jordania's Menshevik view of socialism as opposed to Koba Djugashvilis. At least he listens and makes appropriate gurgling noises.Clap clap clap! He finally gets it. This guy here always had a bit of potential, but now you have definitely shown the entire ISG whole board you can play along with the best. This is what the best of the best does. It's our minds. Most will get lost in translation, confused, and have no idea to what the hell is going on in this conversation. All because they are not on the same level of understanding to where the devil is in the" details". This is how we keep lurkers and trolls away from secrets, treasure maps, and hidden gems. They are not smart enough, not wise enough, and not spiritually high enough to decipher anything that is written. They are truly lost in their own egos and too busy pointing the finger everywhere, even up their own chute. Previously, you mentioned the annoyance of some Chinese at Thermae for their rudeness and behavior, correct? And of course you, like many, want to correct that behavior. It's the Monkeypaw thing to do just like the dirty not washing your hands thing. So believe it or not, our minds are similar. But we can't go around slapping the rude out of folks can we now? But given the same opportunity to peg the same rude folks with a ping pong ball at a Go Go bar. Then what? Ping pong balls get tossed all the time at Go Go bars. Can a customer really complain to management if 1, 2, 3 balls hits him or her in the head? Not really. Now you see how Monkeypaw punishes those who behave badly? My ping pongs are reserved for ding dongs. Just don't act like a ding dong and you will be safe from the Paw and those who think like the Paw. And trust me, you want to think like the Paw. Just have fun with it, punish with a little love, but do it in a way that you can get away with it and you won't end up in the Bangkok Hilton. Use that mind of yours to get back at those who are rude, yes even the Chinese guys (and I'm from Hong Kong), but in the correct, smart, and cunning way. It's a crowded bar, shoes get stepped on all the time. That's a given. Go buy some shoe black polish, dab a bit under your own shoe, and have a few bumping accidents with the rude pushy guys who wear white sneakers in there. When they like to hog those bar stools, sometimes I dab of shoe polish on the seat looks as if somebody had an accident in their pants. Enjoy.
P.S. You've driven a 1994 Porcha right? Now try driving a Porche777, not Porsche777 as you wrote it. I may be spelling it wrong. But you can figure it out.
Blanquiceleste
11-17-18, 19:13
Out of some curiosity generated by some pictures in the PG, I ended up reading some FRs in the Dubai thread.
Guess what? Monkey Paw you are famous there! People diligently read your posts and quote from them. And they wish there was more life in their own threads. Perhaps a roadshow there might be an idea?
Out of some curiosity generated by some pictures in the PG, I ended up reading some FRs in the Dubai thread.
Guess what? Monkey Paw you are famous there! People diligently read your posts and quote from them. And they wish there was more life in their own threads. Perhaps a roadshow there might be an idea?
SNIP. But it is heartening to see some good new FRs which is the spirit of this forum. I wish our forum is as lively as Bangkok forum which has some excellent posters, I read every posts by super seniors there who have 2000 plus posts, never miss banter around Monkey Paw who is unique character. I have some of his quotes which I will copy below to humor you guys. SNIP.
Quote by Monkey Paw (This is just to show what entertaining level a poster can go).
"A Story About Licking Leaking Lek"..If you were referring to the above post, then Monkeypaw is flattered to be recognized on other threads all across ISG. That means I'm famous! But Monkeypaw already sort of knew that if you look at post #200 of the SSIT (this thread). Even in other sites when posters refer to the Paw as "the greatest literary mind of our time. " I'm just happy with "greatest mind" and it keeps growing. I can see it's getting boring again, but hope is coming soon. And a little life will get injected in the near future. Now we should let FL Hawk have his moment. He will give credit where it's due. Besides me, Lew Ashby, FL, Dart, BB, and Phazze93 been tearing it up in Pattaya and too busy to post anything. Like I've said before, if you are a actually at ground zero hunting, it's a chore to write up a review. I talk about it with FL every day and even he admits that it's impossible to write up as much as some of these posters and play at the same time. Unless somebody is fibbing. Tsk tsk tsk. During the meantime while we wait, let's take time to give "thanks" to the teddy who has brought ISG so much joy this past year. Mogwai and ET, can you "bow your heads" and lead us in prayer to the teddy bear this Thanksgiving?
Hi Guys.
There has been a bit of chat about losing the desire to bang girls in Thailand thru a longer then 1 week stay! I have only had 5 day stays in Pattaya so I have little knowledge of it but thru my stay I do notice a mid week slump where the lack of sleep and constant banging has taken its toll and I either crash and burn in bed at 10 pm or find myself knocking out zzzz with a LT freelancer.
I can not take full credit for the following as Lew Ashby and myself came up with this concept when reminiscing on a recent Pattaya jaunt. Of course it is best used in a group of 2 or more but this should break up any doldrums that may sent in. Behold I give you the "Pattaya 8 Day Challenge", this can be changed to any city in the world.
1/ PICK UP FROM BUS. PICK UP A GIRL WHILE TRAVELLING IN THE BAHT BUS.
2/ PICK UP FROM ANY MALL. PICK UP A GIRL FROM ANY OF THE SHOPPING MALLS. 3/ PICK UP HOTEL STAFF. PICK UP ANY MEMBER OF HOTEL STAFF. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT DEPARTMENT THEY WORK 4/ PICK UP ANY SERVER FROM ANY RESTAURANT, CAFÉ ETC. MUSTN'T BE A BAR.
5/ PICK UP ANY MALL WORKER. PICK UP ANY GIRL WHO WORKS IN ANY MALL, SHOP ETC. CAN NOT BE MASSAGE.
6/ PICK UP ANOTHER BM GIRL. VERY LOOSE TO VERIFY BUT AS ACCURATE TO DESCRIPTIONS IN POST AS POSSIBLE. START TAKING NOTES OF NAMES, VENUES AND BADGE NUMBERS.
7/ PUBLIC SEX. A SEXUAL ACT OF ANY NATURE IN A PUBLIC AREA. CAN BE HJ IN OPEN BAR ON ONE OF THE SOI'S OR SEX OR BJ AT THE HOTEL POOL. THE GREATER THE ACT IN THE MORE OPEN AREA THE MORE POINTS OUT OF 10. NO EXTRA PAYMENT ALLOWED.
8/ SWAPPING PARTNERS. CONVINCE A GIRL ONCE BACK IN THE HOTEL TO HAVE ANY FORM OF SEX WITH AT LEAST ONE OTHER GUY.
I know its not everyone's cup of tea but what the hell its better then laying around feeling sorry for ones self because there is too much pussy, LOL.
I know by reading the forum over several years that many of these have been done but to get them all in one trip should be worthy of a special mention.
All the best.
Rob.
Blanquiceleste
11-22-18, 23:52
There has been a bit of chat about losing the desire to bang girls in Thailand thru a longer then 1 week stay! Perhaps its more fatigue than loss of desire. Perhaps it has to do with routine. Perhaps age. Perhaps company or the lack of it. Perhaps the quality of girls you shag. Perhaps its the hotel room you stay in. Perhaps food. Perhaps its the absolute loss of connection with the real world outside the bubble. Perhaps its the knowledge that this will end in a few days. I can think of so many more factors contributing to this phenomenon. And this is not theorizing. Because I have tried to correct several factors in isolation. None have worked conclusively.
I have such DMU feelings when I am in ONE SINGLE LOCATION for more than 5 days, but when I cover 2 or 3 different locations over a 15 - 20 day period or more, then I do not feel this way. Also, lately, I don't get the time to hobby for more than 2 weeks at a stretch these days. Problem solved.
I can not take full credit for the following as Lew Ashby and myself came up with this concept when reminiscing on a recent Pattaya jaunt. Of course it is best used in a group of 2 or more but this should break up any doldrums that may sent in. Behold I give you the "Pattaya 8 Day Challenge", this can be changed to any city in the world.5555. What a list! But I have to break it to you, this stuff is all too easy in Pattaya, especially #1 to #5. Not sure if sex in the balcony in broad daylight counts for points on #7. All in a single trip, of course.
Perhaps its more fatigue than loss of desire. Perhaps it has to do with routine. Perhaps age. Perhaps company or the lack of it. Perhaps the quality of girls you shag. Perhaps its the hotel room you stay in. Perhaps food. Perhaps its the absolute loss of connection with the real world outside the bubble. Perhaps its the knowledge that this will end in a few days. I can think of so many more factors contributing to this phenomenon. And this is not theorizing. Because I have tried to correct several factors in isolation. None have worked conclusively.
I have such DMU feelings when I am in ONE SINGLE LOCATION for more than 5 days, but when I cover 2 or 3 different locations over a 15 - 20 day period or more, then I do not feel this way. Also, lately, I don't get the time to hobby for more than 2 weeks at a stretch these days. Problem solved.
5555. What a list! But I have to break it to you, this stuff is all too easy in Pattaya, especially #1 to #5. Not sure if sex in the balcony in broad daylight counts for points on #7. All in a single trip, of course.Hi Blanq.
Numbers 1 to 5 very achievable LOL and 6,7 & 9 feasible but a push in 8 days. I think where the blues set in is when you are travelling alone and when you are with your mates you have each other to bounce off and motivate you to participate. This may sound anal but I have started to set an action plan with quite specific goals to achieve to keep myself focused. It works in the business world and to a degree in this hobby we are participating in, we are conducting business transactions daily.
Anyhow a bit of SSIT to start the day and you guessed I am not very busy this morning 5555.
Rob.
HorseTrader
11-23-18, 23:24
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
I don't know how much of this is true, but, I know it has happened in the past. In fact, an unmarried friend of mine did something similar to a girl after a 3-week trip. Eventually my friend sent money via Western Union, but it wasn't without a fight.
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
I don't know how much of this is true, but, I know it has happened in the past. In fact, an unmarried friend of mine did something similar to a girl after a 3-week trip. Eventually my friend sent money via Western Union, but it wasn't without a fight.What a situation that shouldn't happen. I don't understand why you would go to Thailand and limit yourself to one girl for 4 weeks, I like to limit myself to 2 to 3 a day. LOL. Being married myself the last thing I want is my missus finding out about my extra curriculum activities. To quote Forrest Gump "stupid is as stupid does!" First why tell her your real name? I will use my real first name but never my surname. How the hell did she get a copy of his licence? He doesn't use the room safe and keep his official forms of identity safe? 1000 TBH a day is SFA so why wouldn't he pay that?
I hope this guy learns from this and improves his game.
His actions truly belong in Stupid Shit in Thailand thread.
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
I don't know how much of this is true, but, I know it has happened in the past. In fact, an unmarried friend of mine did something similar to a girl after a 3-week trip. Eventually my friend sent money via Western Union, but it wasn't without a fight.A psycho Thai / Pina / Indo wih your details in suburbia for the sake of $900. . . That's value for money.
Much easier just to say she's going to get 5 k spending money only at the start then everyone knows where they stand and can make decisions accordingly.
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
I don't know how much of this is true, but, I know it has happened in the past. In fact, an unmarried friend of mine did something similar to a girl after a 3-week trip. Eventually my friend sent money via Western Union, but it wasn't without a fight.The girl should double her fee for going thru all this. Hope she took pictures of themselves together at scenic spots to prove her story and nail the guy.
He should honor his agreement.
HorseTrader
11-24-18, 01:10
How the hell did she get a copy of his licence? He doesn't use the room safe and keep his official forms of identity safe?That's a heck of a good question, probably lots of chances with 28 days together. I've seen it and it looks like a valid drivers license to me. His license picture is clearly the same person that appears in the vacation pictures. I have to admire her for being smart enough to take a picture of it.
The vacation pictures show fancy hotels, nice restaurants, and getting massages on beautiful beaches. They visited Hua Hin, Koh Samui, Krabi, Ranong, and Chiang Mai. And this guy can't save $35 per day to pay the girl as promised. He doesn't care that she and her children are now suffering.
That's a heck of a good question, probably lots of chances with 28 days together. I've seen it and it looks like a valid drivers license to me. His license picture is clearly the same person that appears in the vacation pictures. I have to admire her for being smart enough to take a picture of it.
The vacation pictures show fancy hotels, nice restaurants, and getting massages on beautiful beaches. They visited Hua Hin, Koh Samui, Krabi, Ranong, and Chiang Mai. And this guy can't save $35 per day to pay the girl as promised. He doesn't care that she and her children are now suffering.Knowing the girls' appetite for social media, and that he was married, who the fuck has ANY photos taken with any girl, anywhere? With compromising ones in multiple places!! On her phone!!
They can and may pop up anywhere.
I'm struggling to think of any positive outcome from having photos of Lucy Thai and Brian the clerk anywhere. 😲.
Mr Enternational
11-24-18, 03:08
Knowing the girls' appetite for social media, and that he was married, who the fuck has ANY photos taken with any girl, anywhere?Besides that, the longer you stay with 1 person, the more your chances of getting caught. Mfs that are catching and releasing are not getting caught up like that. It is mfs that are building a relationship over time with the same chick that are getting busted.
The girl should double her fee for going thru all this. Hope she took pictures of themselves together at scenic spots to prove her story and nail the guy.
He should honor his agreement.Agreed. It will cost him a lot more in the long run if his wife leaves him. Foolish decision on his part.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
If I were her friend, I would strongly encourage her to do exactly that and question why she would delay doing it by another day. However, I don't think engaging in some kind blackmail attempt by warning him ahead of time is a good idea. That could open her to legal problems added to her financial ones.
But as a lovely act of sweet and satisfying revenge? Go for it, honey!
Blanquiceleste
11-24-18, 07:39
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
I don't know how much of this is true, but, I know it has happened in the past. In fact, an unmarried friend of mine did something similar to a girl after a 3-week trip. Eventually my friend sent money via Western Union, but it wasn't without a fight.What a muppet! Knobheads like these deserve to be nailed. Stiffing a hooker is a classless low life act.
But as a lovely act of sweet and satisfying revenge? Go for it, honey!Agree. For once.
The girl should double her fee for going thru all this. If her blackmail ploy works, then she could milk him for a lot more.
A psycho Thai / Pina / Indo wih your details in suburbia for the sake of $900.Why call the girl psycho? I don't think anyone would tolerate not being paid after doing a job. Anyone would use all the leverage available to get the promised sum. And more, as compensation towards breach of trust.
I like to limit myself to 2 to 3 a day. LOL. You sir, are a legend. Mucho respeto!!
Franciscass
11-24-18, 08:17
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife..There are always two sides but assuming her story is true and accurate I feel she should fix an amount she feel she deserves. I would suggest at least double what she was promised as compensation for what he put her through. I would increase this by 50% for every week that goes by after she contacts him. Before she does anything she should gather all the information she can re his whereabouts I. E. Go online to confirm address and any other details she can dig up and then let him know what she intends to do if he refuses to pay up. This would include posts to his Facebook account and any other social media platform along with a sample of what she will send to his home address. Revenge is a dish best served cold so she should take her time planning how to get even.
Engine Driver
11-24-18, 09:51
What a muppet! Knobheads like these deserve to be nailed. Stiffing a hooker is a classless low life act.
What about all the punters who are cheated by hookers everyday, especially in Thailand? No need for anyone to do anything. He will get his comeuppance.
Member #4591
11-24-18, 11:30
Guys, blackmail is a major crime in Thailand. I don't condone what this guy did in anyway but he does not need to pay her anything now. He should take any evidence of her blackmail to the police to file a report.
PedroMorales
11-24-18, 11:39
So this poor Isaan hooker has a car and a mini army of children she abandoned to take a free holiday. There was also no discussion of payment during the month or no calls to send money back for the sick children and the sicker buffalo during that month. The married farang, meanwhile, allows the hooker access to his papers and doesn't pay her, knowing there could be marital consequences if things go pear shaped. Yeah, right.
Franciscass
11-24-18, 12:36
Guys, blackmail is a major crime in Thailand. I don't condone what this guy did in anyway but he does not need to pay her anything now. He should take any evidence of her blackmail to the police to file a report.This asshole owes her money via a verbal agreement for services rendered. No need for her to put asking for what she is owed in a form leaving her open to charges of blackmail, something dickhead would be unlikely to want to pursue or a case the police would want to take on. A gentle reminder that she knows where he lives and wants to share some intimate reminders with him of their time together should be enough to get his attention.
A psycho Thai / Pina / Indo wih your details in suburbia for the sake of $900. . . That's value for money.
Why call the girl psycho? I don't think anyone would tolerate not being paid after doing a job. Anyone would use all the leverage available to get the promised sum. And more, as compensation towards breach of trust.We are using different definitions of "psycho". I mean angry and seeking retribution not crazy and unreasonable.
MongerForSex
11-24-18, 17:37
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
I don't know how much of this is true, but, I know it has happened in the past. In fact, an unmarried friend of mine did something similar to a girl after a 3-week trip. Eventually my friend sent money via Western Union, but it wasn't without a fight.30 000 reais is very cheap for 28 days, If the girl is good looking with good attitude, it's not expensive.
Mr Enternational
11-24-18, 23:59
30 000 reais is very cheap for 28 days, If the girl is good looking with good attitude, it's not expensive.You mean 30,000 baht. It depends on several factors as to whether it would be considered cheap or not. Are we saying cheap for the guy or cheap for the girl? Is he fucking this chick 3 times per day or once every 3 days? Also have to add in all the other expenses. Getting her there, paying for her food and other shit. So it is costing the guy way more than 30,000 baht to whisk a chick away on vacation. 30,000 baht is only payment to the girl.
If the girl is some amazing superhooker making 5000 baht per day is it cheap? She would be losing 110,000 baht for 28 days by going away with some dude.
If the girl is a regular chick that works at the cable company making 10,000 baht per month is it cheap? You are giving her 3 x her salary to go on vacation.
A chick once told me that for 10,000 baht per month she could go back home and would not have to be a hooker anymore. I don't know how sick these kids were, but the other day I said I pay 500 for a doctor visit that includes 5 days worth of medicine. I think it costs 30 baht to go to a public hospital.
In general I give hookers 1000 baht per day. If I was taking them for multiple days then I would entitle myself to a multi-day discount. Just like going shopping; when you buy in bulk, you get a discount. You are paying for her time in bulk and it saves her from the stress of having to look for other customers during that time.
It appears that most guys look at it as the monger being lucky. I look at it as the chick being lucky. He could choose any chick to take and if he does not find one then he could sit there and jack off and still have a pocket full of money. If a chick does not get chosen then she does not have rent or food money and could be out on the street starving to death. A guy can go without pussy much longer than a woman can go without food and a roof over her head.
HorseTrader
11-25-18, 02:02
30 000 reais is very cheap for 28 days, If the girl is good looking with good attitude, it's not expensive.The girl is an ordinary woman in her late 30's who has 2 children. IMHO, her pictures are slightly prettier than average. Good value for money or not, it's disappointing that the farang didn't make the agreed payment.
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
Not sure I fully believe this story although is slightly feasible. Guys are unwise to cheat Thais who may well find a means of getting him back. We don't know if he accidentally ran out of money or just wanted to stiff her.
Firstly 30 K seems rather too low for 28 days. Lets assume he gets 2 fucks per day, although there maybe a very small percentage of guys who don't actually want the girl for sex purposes (yes hard to believe for us red blooded males but have heard of it). This should make the Thai girl suspicious already. A smart girl would not go for so long with a guy unless she knows him very well. The other thing is she should take progress payments including 5 K deposit as a minimum. When I took Thai girls on long holidays, I paid them better than this and sometimes paid them on a nearly daily basis. This would help to keep the girl absolutely at ease, having a fun time, and with no money worries. She can put her cash in the deposit machine from time to time.
It takes time to develop mutual trust.
In the end, the story does not quite ring true with me, unless the girl is really super dumb and nave. MPs now have full up front payments and even bars are trying to have the girl get paid in advance, because of the danger of guys who never intended to pay for sex but take a freebie.
Blanquiceleste
11-25-18, 06:30
We are using different definitions of "psycho". I mean angry and seeking retribution not crazy and unreasonable.No offence mate. The girl could be anything. Angry, seeking revenge, crazy, unreasonable, even schizophrenic or psychopathic. The issue here is the monger stiffed her after having a good time and in that process he screwed her earning potential for those number of days. He should pay up or face the music.
Blanquiceleste
11-25-18, 06:33
You mean 30,000 baht. It depends on several factors as to whether it would be considered cheap or not. Are we saying cheap for the guy or cheap for the girl? Is he fucking this chick 3 times per day or once every 3 days? Also have to add in all the other expenses. Getting her there, paying for her food and other shit. So it is costing the guy way more than 30,000 baht to whisk a chick away on vacation. 30,000 baht is only payment to the girl.
If the girl is some amazing superhooker making 5000 baht per day is it cheap? She would be losing 110,000 baht for 28 days by going away with some dude.
If the girl is a regular chick that works at the cable company making 10,000 baht per month is it cheap? You are giving her 3 x her salary to go on vacation.
A chick once told me that for 10,000 baht per month she could go back home and would not have to be a hooker anymore. I don't know how sick these kids were, but the other day I said I pay 500 for a doctor visit that includes 5 days worth of medicine. I think it costs 30 baht to go to a public hospital.
In general I give hookers 1000 baht per day. If I was taking them for multiple days then I would entitle myself to a multi-day discount. Just like going shopping; when you buy in bulk, you get a discount. You are paying for her time in bulk and it saves her from the stress of having to look for other customers during that time.
It appears that most guys look at it as the monger being lucky. I look at it as the chick being lucky. He could choose any chick to take and if he does not find one then he could sit there and jack off and still have a pocket full of money. If a chick does not get chosen then she does not have rent or food money and could be out on the street starving to death. A guy can go without pussy much longer than a woman can go without food and a roof over her head.Mr E, the point here is the loser reneged on a deal. Not done. What the money means for the girl and how it compares to her regular earning potential has no relevance.
In general I give hookers 1000 baht per day.In other words, you don't mind going with girls who are the bottom of the barrel.
Mr Enternational
11-25-18, 07:43
Mr E, the point here is the loser reneged on a deal. Not done. What the money means for the girl and how it compares to her regular earning potential has no relevance.I know the original. But I was replying to MFS saying how cheap it was.
Mr Enternational
11-25-18, 07:46
In other words, you don't mind going with girls who are the bottom of the barrel.Nope. I just go with chicks who realize that I know the true value of things in Thailand. I understand that the price of tea in China has nothing to do with the price of tea back home.
Nope. I just go with chicks who realize that I know the true value of things in Thailand. I understand that the price of tea in China has nothing to do with the price of tea back home.I thought the true value of things anywhere is what people are willing and prepared to pay for it. If a chick realizes that no one is willing and prepared to pay her more than 1000 baht for a day of her time and sexual favors, then I suppose 1000 baht will do it.
If a chick does not get chosen then she does not have rent or food money and could be out on the street starving to death.That only applies to the bottom of the barrel girls. The top girls do not have that problem.
Nope. I just go with chicks who realize that I know the true value of things in Thailand. I understand that the price of tea in China has nothing to do with the price of tea back home.Exactly. A good judge is what the local lads are paying. One look at Fin Fin Fan will tell you everything you need to know. Very few gals over 2 k.
Exactly. A good judge is what the local lads are paying. I have found that the locals pay MORE than foreigners for the top quality girls, but they pay less than foreigners for the low quality girls.
I have found that the locals pay MORE than foreigners for the top quality girls, but they pay less than foreigners for the low quality girls.I agree 100%.
Exactly. A good judge is what the local lads are paying. One look at Fin Fin Fan will tell you everything you need to know. Very few gals over 2 k.I think it very much depends on where the girl typically markets her wares or if she markets them anywhere at all. If you're encountering girls who market their wares in typical farang red light districts, then 1000 baht for a day (Mr. E said "a day", not per ST, so not sure if we're talking about the same thing anymore) is quite low and the girl is bound to be in very, very low demand at anything more than that amount. But maybe not in Pattaya, for instance. Personally, I can't think of a girl I've seen or been with in Pattaya that I'd pay as much as 1,000 baht for a ST. But that is another story.
However, if the girl is only marketing her wares on local Thai sites and in venues frequented only by locals, then 1000 baht for ST is probably fine. Again, not sure about 1,000 baht "a day". That still sounds low for what most punters would find acceptable on Fin Fin Fan and so on.
Still, on dating sites and in encounters around town, you can meet girls who aren't marketing their wares anywhere really and the only amount of baht you are competing with is what the old lady who owns the place pays that girl to wash clothes, sweep floors or serve pad thai. She might be unemployed entirely. In that case, replacing what they usually get paid in their regular job for "a day" of companionship and sex is doable for 1,000 baht. Even in Bangkok red light areas. And it is entirely possible that such a girl is younger, slimmer, cuter and better in bed than many pro P4P girls who market their wares in the usual way.
For several months I have been seeing a 29 year old once a week or so that I met on a Thai dating site (she didn't even post a photo!) whose looks, skills and loving attention in the bed would easily command 3,000 for ST via most farang red light district venues and bars, not including the barfine. But she didn't choose to go that route for whatever reason. I only give her 2,000 for all night that begins sometime around 6PM and ends the next day whenever we wake up and feel like parting ways, usually well after 12noon. I have only ever given her that amount and she has never balked or asked for more.
Banana Boi
11-26-18, 04:59
Personally, I can't think of a girl I've seen or been with in Pattaya that I'd pay as much as 1,000 baht for a ST. But that is another story.Cmon ET, I can't recall where you go to in Pattaya but I'll be in Bangkok in a few days. Tell me where there is a lineup better than Palace agogo and I will be there instantly. Walk in to Palace at 9:30 pm on a weekend night and sit for the 3 rotations. I'll even pay for your drink next time you're in town. There are other gogo bars I could name but Palace is the one that is most diverse to attract those with both Farang and Asian taste in women. If you hang out at beer bars, Soi 7, Soi 8, Beach Road, low end gogo bars like Windmill and Crazy House, and only infrequently go to Soi 6 then yes I agree with you but even then there are exceptions on the rare occasion. In fact, met a 19 year old who looks like a cute kpop singer in a grungy beer bar yesterday and ended up being late meeting the guys on WS. I didn't want to leave her and ended up leaving WS early to go see her again. She's been in Pattaya for 4 days now. One of the prettiest girls I ever met in Thailand was a girl from Burma who also worked in a beer bar.
I have found that the locals pay MORE than foreigners for the top quality girls, but they pay less than foreigners for the low quality girls.Totally agree here. Most mongers think that their money and skin give admission to anywhere they wish.
The reality is that 99% would be scared off by the true low end market and will not be permitted access to the high end.
I have found that the locals pay MORE than foreigners for the top quality girls, but they pay less than foreigners for the low quality girls.If they are interested in pursuing a relationship, then maybe, but for a one off; no.
Cmon ET, I can't recall where you go to in Pattaya but I'll be in Bangkok in a few days. Tell me where there is a lineup better than Palace agogo and I will be there instantly. Walk in to Palace at 9:30 pm on a weekend night and sit for the 3 rotations. I'll even pay for your drink next time you're in town. There are other gogo bars I could name but Palace is the one that is most diverse to attract those with both Farang and Asian taste in women. If you hang out at beer bars, Soi 7, Soi 8, Beach Road, low end gogo bars like Windmill and Crazy House, and only infrequently go to Soi 6 then yes I agree with you but even then there are exceptions on the rare occasion. In fact, met a 19 year old who looks like a cute kpop singer in a grungy beer bar yesterday and ended up being late meeting the guys on WS. I didn't want to leave her and ended up leaving WS early to go see her again. She's been in Pattaya for 4 days now. One of the prettiest girls I ever met in Thailand was a girl from Burma who also worked in a beer bar.Is Palace where FLHawk took a girl twice armed with MP and others' expert Pattaya "game", paid god knows how much, and got nothing but the pleasure of chatting with her and finding out she was not up to snuff when it came to actual GFE sexual satisfaction?
I am sure some go-go bars in Pattaya have a handful of overpriced lookers. But I wasn't talking about girls based only on their looks. I was talking about girls I have seen and have "experienced". I have seen, interviewed and taken many girls in Pattaya. But for the past 5-6 years and maybe 9-10 visits, there is not one I would pay as much as 1,000, scratch that, 200 baht to meet or "experience" again.
For several months I have been seeing a 29 year old once a week or so that I met on a Thai dating site (she didn't even post a photo!) whose looks, skills and loving attention in the bed would easily command 3,000 for ST via most farang red light district venues and bars, not including the barfine. But she didn't choose to go that route for whatever reason. I only give her 2,000 for all night that begins sometime around 6PM and ends the next day whenever we wake up and feel like parting ways, usually well after 12noon. I have only ever given her that amount and she has never balked or asked for more.This is what we call a semi-hooker, or casual or part time. Some might not even classify her as a hooker. There are girls that want sex. They may feel that they prefer Farangs or non Thai men. They may not refuse a small amount of monetary help.
Used to be a lot more common 20 to 30 years ago where a lot of Thermae girls were semi-hookers. Looking for a good time with a guy, and picking up a bit of bonus pocket money (as a gift). In the old days girls in Thermae were not just looking to make x amount of money in a rather short ST. Yes they could use some extra money when the regular job paid poorly, but they were looking for a good time too, not just to give service.
Therefore I don't think this girl is at all relevant to mainstream hooker discussions and their prices, nor even the talent pools in Pattaya.
I also had a regular girl for sometimes ST and sometimes LT sessions. Certainly no clock watching. Okay She needed some help with the rent, etc. She certainly said it was not about the money for her. She would not be fucking me, if not horny and having a good time, and liking my tongue and dick. Added bonus is I don't pry into her business, no interest in her official BF, don't ask difficult questions, show zero jealousy levels, etc. Easy and laid back and reliable and not selfish in bed. She is a horny girl but does not do Thai men, and has certain specs to met by a candidate guy. Older than your girl, but still hot enough. So I understand well enough, that normal mongering can decline a lot, when you have a special semi-P4 P girl that gives a lot more for a lot less. I have just the one special girl like this, outside of the regular GF. Not that easy to find someone very suitable (for liasons that can only happen when both our partners are absent). I did have a another regular Thai girl, a bit like this outside of Thailand, for many years, but in the end she started to get a bit too old (must be close to 50 now) to be really exiting any more and I was in her location less and less. So nothing has occurred for last few years and I assume ended. She was once a hooker, but retired maybe 15 to 20 years ago, retaining some sexual needs. At another time, had a Thai casual "girlfriend" who was a part time hooker in Germany. She was looking for a little more than just sex, but it was not to be paid.
Some girls want a husband, some want a 2nd boyfriend of sorts, who treats them better than the official primary BF / Partner / husband, some need not much more than the sex. Some need small money but don't want to become a full time hooker.
I am sure some go-go bars in Pattaya have a handful of overpriced lookers. But I wasn't talking about girls based only on their looks. I was talking about girls I have seen and have "experienced". I have seen, interviewed and taken many girls in Pattaya. But for the past 5-6 years and maybe 9-10 visits, there is not one I would pay as much as 1,000, scratch that, 200 baht to meet or "experience" again.How can it be the Bangkok hookers were really good sometimes, and even worth repeating, but impossible to find any good ones in Pattaya? Does not seem to make any sense unless you can explain why the Pattaya girls should be so bad in general or is it just an unfair attitude towards them?
Sounds slightly like my Thermae experience when all girls tried for last few years were pretty worthless, to me. Not one worth repeating (without bringing price into it).
Surely Pattaya must have some girls that really like old Farangs? Some must be capable of a good time. Are you saying all of those are just too ugly?
Used to be a lot more common 20 to 30 years ago where a lot of Thermae girls were semi-hookers. Looking for a good time with a guy, and picking up a bit of bonus pocket money (as a gift). In the old days girls in Thermae were not just looking to make x amount of money in a rather short ST. Yes they could use some extra money when the regular job paid poorly, but they were looking for a good time too, not just to give service.Remember it well. Still going strong when I moved here almost 20 years ago. End of the month was rent time and all the part-timers would come out. I even got driven to the ST hotel in a gals car once. So many office gals looking to supplement their salaries and as you said, have a little fun. Truly a great time. Nothing like that in Thermae now. What used to be a nightly party has devolved into some sort of boring middle school dance with dudes walking around in circles looking at bored gals, forcing a smile, none of whom are drinking any partying. Meh.
PedroMorales
11-26-18, 09:52
Exactly. A good judge is what the local lads are paying. One look at Fin Fin Fan will tell you everything you need to know. Very few gals over 2 k.Thai mileage varies. Most would not be sen dead with a dark-skinned Issaan bottom ender. Once I watched Thai officer cadets on parade. All were white skinned.
Is anyone doing a PhD on all this price variation and differentiation? I guess Thermae is a mainstream tourist as it comes now. I got some terrific bonks and experiences out of that place. One of them was fantastic the first few times but then took the egg timer route. I could do a PhD on her alone.
Member #4698
11-26-18, 12:12
some sort of boring middle school dance with dudes walking around in circles looking at bored gals, forcing a smile, none of whom are drinking any partying. Meh.That is how I see it too. Like a 1950's "American Graffiti" scene, but without cars or fun. Just a meat market with a ton of rather ordinary looking bored girls. I wish the girls were more outgoing or more lively and dressed better. None look that good to me in their drab street clothes. As a result I haven't taken a girl out of Thermae in years although I still stop in occasionally when I am walking by on my way somewhere else, somewhere better.
All that said, it is hard to knock success. Whatever management is doing wrong in our mutual opinions, they must be doing something very right from a commercial point of view. When I last dropped by Thermae on a drizzly Wednesday night in October around 11pm, the place was packed to the rafters with girls along all 4 walls and all around the island bar with NE Asians clogging up the walk around. So if the joint was filled to capacity on an ordinary Wednesday night in low season. I wonder what it will be like in December/January.
That is how I see it too. Like a 1950's "American Graffiti" scene, but without cars or fun. Just a meat market with a ton of rather ordinary looking bored girls. I wish the girls were more outgoing or more lively and dressed better. None look that good to me in their drab street clothes. As a result I haven't taken a girl out of Thermae in years although I still stop in occasionally when I am walking by on my way somewhere else, somewhere better.
All that said, it is hard to knock success. Whatever management is doing wrong in our mutual opinions, they must be doing something very right from a commercial point of view. When I last dropped by Thermae on a drizzly Wednesday night in October around 11pm, the place was packed to the rafters with girls along all 4 walls and all around the island bar with NE Asians clogging up the walk around. So if the joint was filled to capacity on an ordinary Wednesday night in low season. I wonder what it will be like in December/January.You would have loved it in the early 00's Natty. It was so much fun. A party every night. Management has always catered to the clientele. Most gracious wait staff in the city. Love those dudes.
This question definitely belongs here. I will be needing about 1/2 an hour per day access to a computer when I am next in Pattaya to write my reports. I can on my phone but it turns a quick process into a lengthy one due to small keys and fat fingers. I will obviously check if the hotels I'm booked into has a business centre but any suggestions. I did a laptop that I used exclusively for my hobby but it has died and it's hard to justify the expense of buying a new one for one or two uses a year.
Thanks.
Rob.
This question definitely belongs here. I will be needing about 1/2 an hour per day access to a computer when I am next in Pattaya to write my reports. I can on my phone but it turns a quick process into a lengthy one due to small keys and fat fingers. I will obviously check if the hotels I'm booked into has a business centre but any suggestions. I did a laptop that I used exclusively for my hobby but it has died and it's hard to justify the expense of buying a new one for one or two uses a year.
Thanks.
Rob.There should be some internet shops around.
I suggest you buy a small tablet <$100 and use free hotel Wifi or other local WiFi.
Banana Boi
11-27-18, 01:24
This question definitely belongs here. I will be needing about 1/2 an hour per day access to a computer when I am next in Pattaya to write my reports. I can on my phone but it turns a quick process into a lengthy one due to small keys and fat fingers. I will obviously check if the hotels I'm booked into has a business centre but any suggestions. I did a laptop that I used exclusively for my hobby but it has died and it's hard to justify the expense of buying a new one for one or two uses a year.There are hotels like LK Residence with computers in the lobby. Some hotels rent laptops. There are also internet cafes spread around Pattaya. You can type 'internet cafe' on Google map to search. If all else fails go to PowerBuy and type your reports from the laptops for sale.
This question definitely belongs here. I will be needing about 1/2 an hour per day access to a computer when I am next in Pattaya to write my reports. I can on my phone but it turns a quick process into a lengthy one due to small keys and fat fingers. I will obviously check if the hotels I'm booked into has a business centre but any suggestions. I did a laptop that I used exclusively for my hobby but it has died and it's hard to justify the expense of buying a new one for one or two uses a year.
Thanks.
Rob.Thanks for the responses. I am thinking about the cheap tablet option, plenty here for less then $100 AUD.
Rob.
Thanks for the responses. I am thinking about the cheap tablet option, plenty here for less then $100 AUD.
Rob.Actually this report belongs in the General section. It is not at all "Stupid Shit" and that is a relatively new section for more specific purposes.
This is what we call a semi-hooker, or casual or part time. Some might not even classify her as a hooker. There are girls that want sex. They may feel that they prefer Farangs or non Thai men. They may not refuse a small amount of monetary help.
Used to be a lot more common 20 to 30 years ago where a lot of Thermae girls were semi-hookers. Looking for a good time with a guy, and picking up a bit of bonus pocket money (as a gift). In the old days girls in Thermae were not just looking to make x amount of money in a rather short ST. Yes they could use some extra money when the regular job paid poorly, but they were looking for a good time too, not just to give service.
Therefore I don't think this girl is at all relevant to mainstream hooker discussions and their prices, nor even the talent pools in Pattaya.
-snip-In our first exchange on the dating site email page, I asked her what she was looking for here. Her response was, "sex for money". So there was no doubt she was a freelancer working the dating sites. I could just as well have met her in Thermae or in one of the usual discos. If I didn't pay her anything, she would not have come to spend the night with me more than that one time. LOL. This is not a case of a girl looking for a boyfriend and then hitting him up every now and then for financial help.
Of course, I have no idea how or where Mr. E is meeting his 1000 baht a day maximum girls and if they fit either or both categories.
There should be some internet shops around.
I suggest you buy a small tablet <$100 and use free hotel Wifi or other local WiFi.With a Bluetooth keyboard. Soooo much easier.
How can it be the Bangkok hookers were really good sometimes, and even worth repeating, but impossible to find any good ones in Pattaya? Does not seem to make any sense unless you can explain why the Pattaya girls should be so bad in general or is it just an unfair attitude towards them?
Sounds slightly like my Thermae experience when all girls tried for last few years were pretty worthless, to me. Not one worth repeating (without bringing price into it).
Surely Pattaya must have some girls that really like old Farangs? Some must be capable of a good time. Are you saying all of those are just too ugly?I don't know how it can be impossible to find any good ones in Pattaya either and that is why I never said that. I said of the ones I have seen, met, interviewed and been with I would not pay so much as 200 baht to repeat the experience. I was just there again about two weeks ago because a visiting usa friend had never been there and wanted to check it out. I did not search out the 2-3 go-go bars where there are supposedly a few great lookers headlining the show and commanding thousands and thousands of baht to pretend not to know how to get off a nice, well-meaning man having paid those thousands and thousands of baht.
From what I gather, the handful of great lookers in Pattaya work in relatively semi-secret go-go bars on Walking Street, never enter or emerge from those bars alone to be seen in public and try hard never to be seen walking to and from the hotels with their high paying customers. So I guess I have missed seeing them all these times. Again, not that their looking stunningly great means all that much to me by itself. It doesn't. But walking around the place again for the umpteenth time, I just didn't see more than 1-2 girls at most who had the looks (doesn't have to be top quality stunner for me) and projected demeanor that would inspire me to spend the time and money to find out just how godawful they are in bed after all.
IMO, Pattaya is a place where P4P girls who cannot cut it in Bangkok go to see if they can scrounge up work with customers who themselves find it more challenging than others to get girls to go with them in Bangkok. That is the girl-customer Match Made in Pattaya Heaven. I am not talking about the rare few guys who go there to hone their mastery of Pattaya "game" and also do well in Bangkok. But look around at the overwhelming demographics of customers walking along Beach Road, cruising up and down Walking Street, going in and out of the bars there and you will be hard pressed to find many that Thai girls are not quite vocal about wanting to avoid as a matter of cultural bias or from personal experiences that did not go well.
It is utterly logical that girls who cannot afford to turn down anyone in those demographics would flock to Pattaya to finally earn rent money where agreeing to go with and being seen with those customers is more locally accepted. And it is just as logical that girls who can afford to turn them down would for the most part not bother to relocate out of Bangkok in favor of a destination where they are sure to be swamped and surrounded by them day and night. Maybe there are some who must stay in Pattaya for family reasons. But that doesn't mean they are going to far outshine their Pattaya sisters on delivering a True GFE session in a location where they clearly never have to do that to make money.
HorseTrader
11-27-18, 04:32
Of course, I have no idea how or where Mr. E is meeting his 1000 baht a day maximum girls and if they fit either or both categories.I suspect the 1000 baht per day figure was a derivative of something I reported. That was a late 30's semi hooker (not a hottie) who agreed to a month luxury vacation for 30,000 baht, but her farang welshed and didn't pay her.
Lucky Nuts
11-27-18, 04:43
Taking my third trip to Pattaya soon and have a couple unplanned days I could spend in Bangkok. In my past trips I've only visited Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Thermae on my way in and out of BKK. Where or how (social media?) can I find the girls in Bangkok that are better than Pattaya girls?
Taking my third trip to Pattaya soon and have a couple unplanned days I could spend in Bangkok. In my past trips I've only visited Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Thermae on my way in and out of BKK. Where or how (social media?) can I find the girls in Bangkok that are better than Pattaya girls?ThaiFriendly was VERY productive for me on a recent visit.
Taking my third trip to Pattaya soon and have a couple unplanned days I could spend in Bangkok. In my past trips I've only visited Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Thermae on my way in and out of BKK. Where or how (social media?) can I find the girls in Bangkok that are better than Pattaya girls?Better for you? I have no idea. But I find better girls for me almost anywhere in Bangkok, including the places you mentioned. I would add ThaiFriendly and ThaiCupid. But those are going to be a bit trickier for someone spending only a couple of days in Bangkok except for the outright blunt "sex for money" freelancers working them. Then again, I have a very sweet and "innocent" non pro 28 year old girl in my bed right now who I met on ThaiFriendly. She said she would never have sex with a man other than her boyfriend, I made it clear I am NOT her boyfriend, and yet we fucked fully True GFE last night, our very first meeting.
ThaiFriendly was VERY productive for me on a recent visit.Yes, ThaiFriendly has been working much better for me than ThaiCupid lately. In Bangkok, that is.
IMO, Pattaya is a place where P4P girls who cannot cut it in Bangkok go to see if they can scrounge up work with customers who themselves find it more challenging than others to get girls to go with them in Bangkok. That is the girl-customer Match Made in Pattaya Heaven. I am not talking about the rare few guys who go there to hone their mastery of Pattaya "game" and also do well in Bangkok. But look around at the overwhelming demographics of customers walking along Beach Road, cruising up and down Walking Street, going in and out of the bars there and you will be hard pressed to find many that Thai girls are not quite vocal about wanting to avoid as a matter of cultural bias or from personal experiences that did not go well.
It is utterly logical that girls who cannot afford to turn down anyone in those demographics would flock to Pattaya to finally earn rent money where agreeing to go with and being seen with those customers is more locally accepted. And it is just as logical that girls who can afford to turn them down would for the most part not bother to relocate out of Bangkok in favor of a destination where they are sure to be swamped and surrounded by them day and night. Maybe there are some who must stay in Pattaya for family reasons. But that doesn't mean they are going to far outshine their Pattaya sisters on delivering a True GFE session in a location where they clearly never have to do that to make money.Actually there are a lot of BKK gals that work in Pattaya because they don't feel comfortable working in BKK. I have found quite a few gems amongst the fodder on Soi 6 and in the discos.
Lucky Nuts
11-27-18, 05:15
Better for you? I have no idea. But I find better girls for me almost anywhere in Bangkok, including the places you mentioned. I would add ThaiFriendly and ThaiCupid. But those are going to be a bit trickier for someone spending only a couple of days in Bangkok except for the outright blunt "sex for money" freelancers working them. Then again, I have a very sweet and "innocent" non pro 28 year old girl in my bed right now who I met on ThaiFriendly. She said she would never have sex with a man other than her boyfriend, I made it clear I am NOT her boyfriend, and yet we fucked fully True GFE last night, our very first meeting.Jajjajajaj you must be a charmer. Ooops I mean 555 or 333 or kwkwkwkw or whatever it is here. Ok I'll try those same places again. Maybe harder for me in Bangkok not speaking Thai.
Jajjajajaj you must be a charmer. Ooops I mean 555 or 333 or kwkwkwkw or whatever it is here. Ok I'll try those same places again. Maybe harder for me in Bangkok not speaking Thai.The key to it perhaps being easier for some of us who live here is not so much "charm", although there is an element of it at play with regard to speaking a minimum of basic Thai and putting some girls more at ease. It is that we (or I) don't give a shit if the girl says no to the way I want things. I just move on to another one. By now I know there is a never ending stream of girls waiting in the bull pen or to be added to the roster. In Pattaya, it isn't hard to find girls who will do what I want the way I want it. I am sure 90% of the girls lined up on Soi 6 would say Yes. And a decent percentage in the go-go bars too. The challenge is to find one I would even want to ask in the first place combined with her saying Yes and actually meaning it back in the room. That is way too much unnecessary work to do after a grueling and boring 2-3 hour trip to Pattaya when that combination for me is abundantly available right here in Bangkok.
The key to it perhaps being easier for some of us who live here is not so much "charm", although there is an element of it at play with regard to speaking a minimum of basic Thai and putting some girls more at ease. It is that we (or I) don't give a shit if the girl says no to the way I want things. I just move on to another one. By now I know there is a never ending stream of girls waiting in the bull pen or to be added to the roster. In Pattaya, it isn't hard to find girls who will do what I want the way I want it. I am sure 90% of the girls lined up on Soi 6 would say Yes. And a decent percentage in the go-go bars too. The challenge is to find one I would even want to ask in the first place combined with her saying Yes and actually meaning it back in the room. That is way too much unnecessary work to do after a grueling and boring 2-3 hour trip to Pattaya when that combination for me is abundantly available right here in Bangkok.A Pattaya trip for me is as much about getting out of BKK, breathing "cleaner" air, spending a day on Jomtien beach during the week when there is almost no one there, having some decent farang food, and some good beers at a reasonable price. Getting laid is part of it as well, but there are times I go and don't ever partake.
Blanquiceleste
11-27-18, 15:47
Cmon ET, I can't recall where you go to in Pattaya but I'll be in Bangkok in a few days. Tell me where there is a lineup better than Palace agogo and I will be there instantly. Walk in to Palace at 9:30 pm on a weekend night and sit for the 3 rotations. I'll even pay for your drink next time you're in town. I should have responded earlier. I would have told you to save your money for a drink because it will be a no show in all probability. You know why? Because I would have told you that our illustrious friend will find a way to explain the true meaning of what he posted, argue over the semantics, logical and lexical and try to appear intelligent.
And that is exactly what has happened, just I thought.
But I wasn't talking about girls based only on their looks. I was talking about girls I have seen and have "experienced".
I don't know how it can be impossible to find any good ones in Pattaya either and that is why I never said that. I said of the ones I have seen, met, interviewed and been with I would not pay so much as 200 baht to repeat the experience.And now add the "holier than thou" angle. Put down the girls and put down other mongers.
IMO, Pattaya is a place where P4P girls who cannot cut it in Bangkok go to see if they can scrounge up work with customers who themselves find it more challenging than others to get girls to go with them in Bangkok. That is the girl-customer Match Made in Pattaya Heaven. I am not talking about the rare few guys who go there to hone their mastery of Pattaya "game" and also do well in Bangkok. But look around at the overwhelming demographics of customers walking along Beach Road, cruising up and down Walking Street, going in and out of the bars there
I should have responded earlier. I would have told you to save your money for a drink because it will be a no show in all probability. You know why? Because I would have told you that our illustrious friend will find a way to explain the true meaning of what he posted, argue over the semantics, logical and lexical and try to appear intelligent.
And that is exactly what has happened, just I thought.
And now add the "holier than thou" angle. Put down the girls and put down other mongers.You think that pointing out that great "line ups" in terms of looks had little or nothing to do with what I posted is torturing semantics?
Man, you're dense.
Banana Boi
11-27-18, 16:19
I never like posting photos of girls I know but here are some Pattaya bar girls. These are not even gogo girls but rather just from local Pattaya area bars. I'm pretty sure most guys would consider paying 1000 baht for them. Am I correct? I'm very glad these girls can't cut it in BKK and have to come to Pattaya. I personally have yet to meet a girl as pretty as A1 in Bangkok. Please help me and let me where I can find one.
I never like posting photos of girls I know but here are some Pattaya bar girls. These are not even gogo girls but rather just from local Pattaya area bars. I'm pretty sure most guys would consider paying 1000 baht for them. Am I correct? I'm very glad these girls can't cut it in BKK and have to come to Pattaya. I personally have yet to meet a girl as pretty as A1 in Bangkok. Please help me and let me where I can find one, ET.In terms of looks, they're fine. But, now, now, BananaBoi, you are not really as intellectually stunted as another poster here to think my objections are based only on looks, right?
In the past couple of years, I took girls who looked very much like your first and second pics from Thermae. Both did bareback with me (oh, AND CIP!), which is what I negotiated in the bar. Paid 2,500 baht. Maybe 3,000 baht for one of them. Can't say I am all that into the looks of the next two. The last one has potential, but those big bolt-ons would probably be very distracting to me and not in a good way. Again, only talking about their looks here, which is probably no more than half of what would interest me in taking a girl. As you of all people must know by now, BananaBoi.
Do all of those girls do bareback with customers who negotiate it with them beforehand for the going rate or a little more than that? How about a BBBJ with a full CIM finish?
So those are just girls you met in bars around town and NOT go-go girls from those highly praised WS go-go bars? Hmm. Ok.
Banana Boi
11-27-18, 16:37
All of those girls do bareback with customers who negotiate it with them beforehand? How about a BBBJ with a full CIM finish?I don't do BBFS because I'm not old enough to risk my life for the momentary satisfaction so in that regard BBFS can only be a maybe. I also have a Thai GF who I care enough not to infect. I have NEVER had a single girl in Thailand ever say to me don't cum in my mouth so I can only think CIM is available. I can't finish that way so I can't confirm if they swallow or not.
Thermae used to have girls this hot 2 years ago but you have to admit the talent has gone way down or it's the same girls that I have already gone with. Hottest girl I ever met at Thermae was named Ritar, now 'retired'.
I don't do BBFS because I'm not old enough to risk my life for the momentary satisfaction so in that regard BBFS can only be a maybe. I also have a Thai GF who I care enough not to infect. I have NEVER had a single girl in Thailand ever say to me don't cum in my mouth so I can only think CIM is available. I can't finish that way so I can't confirm if they swallow or not.
I hope you realize that Blanquiceleste is bound to come crashing down on you any minute now in his typical motherly fashion for playing "semantics" games, right? LOL. No, just kidding. He won't.
Sorry, but I'm going to have to call that response a "no" to both BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM for those girls, based on your stated experience with them. Or at least an "I don't know". We only know you have done neither with any of them. Again, based solely on your statements above. Unless I misunderstand, regardless whether a Thai girl has ever said "Don't cum in my mouth", your following statement that you can't finish that way tends to eliminate any possibility that they have ever had to prove they are truly ready and willing to actually finish you that way, no?
These are not even gogo girls but rather just from local Pattaya area barsI have probably never seen any chicks in local bars that look as good as 4 of those chicks. The 2nd one looks pretty basic though. Outside of the gogo bars Pattaya is 98% skanks from what I have seen. Those chicks look way too good even for Soi 6. Even anything top tier in a soapy in Patts is pretty basic in the face. They look like gogo quality girls to me. I would imagine that is the way the Thais would arrange them from a business perspective.
Banana Boi
11-27-18, 17:17
I have probably never seen any chicks in local bars that look as good as 4 of those chicks. The 2nd one looks pretty basic though. Outside of the gogo bars Pattaya is 98% skanks from what I have seen. Those chicks look way too good even for Soi 6. Even anything top tier in a soapy in Patts is pretty basic in the face. They look like gogo quality girls to me. I would imagine that is the way the Thais would arrange them from a business perspective.With all due respect it's likely because you don't live here and go hunting high and low on a daily basis. I search every side soi there is to find that hidden gem. These bars are not on the beaten path. A hint - 2 of these girls are from a bar near Hollywood. These girls are from bars I have never heard mentioned (I may have once) on this board so I can only assume none of you know about them. A tourist is here for average 1-3 weeks. I certainly didn't find girls like this outside a gogo bar when I was still a tourist. OK, maybe my Burma Girl who worked at a bar on Soi Lengkee and one who worked out of Candle Bar on Soi 7 or 8 (she is now a gogo girl).
In the past couple of years, I took girls who looked very much like your first and second pics from Thermae. Both did bareback with me (oh, AND CIP!), which is what I negotiated in the bar. Paid 2,500 baht. Maybe 3,000 baht for one of them.
Good work. This goes again the general stereotype on here that Thermae girls are not good providers. I personally really enjoy my Thermae girls. Just wish there were some new ones.
With all due respect it's likely because you don't live here and go hunting high and low on a daily basis. I search every side soi there is to find that hidden gem. These bars are not on the beaten path. A hint - 2 of these girls are from a bar near Hollywood. These girls are from bars I have never heard mentioned (I may have once) on this board so I can only assume none of you know about them. A tourist is here for average 1-3 weeks. I certainly didn't find girls like this outside a gogo bar when I was still a tourist. OK, maybe my Burma Girl who worked at a bar on Soi Lengkee and one who worked out of Candle Bar on Soi 7 or 8 (she is now a gogo girl).
Good work. This goes again the general stereotype on here that Thermae girls are not good providers. I personally really enjoy my Thermae girls. Just wish there were some new ones.I was in Thermae last Wednesday. Approached the most attractive chick I have ever seen there. After negotiating price for 4 K ST (yes she was that hot for me) besides it was her first time P4P, she turned me down! I did another round and as I was walking past she called me over and said let's go. As we were heading out there was another hitch. She told me she wanted the cash up front. I said that's not how it is done and she was ready to head back to the bar. So I agreed half up front and half layer.
As to the action it was all covered but she was horny as hell. Subsequently I met her outside Thermae another couple of times.
Blanquiceleste
11-28-18, 01:08
You think that pointing out that great "line ups" in terms of looks had little or nothing to do with what I posted is torturing semantics?
Man, you're dense.Yeah. I am dense.
Someone else care to explain the first sentence?
I never like posting photos of girls I know but here are some Pattaya bar girls. These are not even gogo girls but rather just from local Pattaya area bars. I'm pretty sure most guys would consider paying 1000 baht for them. Am I correct? I'm very glad these girls can't cut it in BKK and have to come to Pattaya. I personally have yet to meet a girl as pretty as A1 in Bangkok. Please help me and let me where I can find one.Way better looking than anything you will find in the BKK bars for sure. They are all amazing looking.
Good work. This goes again the general stereotype on here that Thermae girls are not good providers. I personally really enjoy my Thermae girls. Just wish there were some new ones.There was a time up until about three years ago I would have been among those saying Thermae girls "only like Japanese customers" or were not good providers. Then, after returning there and giving it the old college try a few more times, I noticed and might have been one of the first to report here that things have changed in Thermae and that the "Japanese only" thing was officially over. After mine, other posters began to investigate and post similar reports.
I would say girls in any venue can and will be good providers as long as the punter negotiates well for it and stands by his decision to get what he wants and not accept too much less.
I never like posting photos of girls I know but here are some Pattaya bar girls. These are not even gogo girls but rather just from local Pattaya area bars. I'm pretty sure most guys would consider paying 1000 baht for them. Am I correct? I'm very glad these girls can't cut it in BKK and have to come to Pattaya. I personally have yet to meet a girl as pretty as A1 in Bangkok. Please help me and let me where I can find one.I know you regularly visit the gogos a lot but I didn't realize you worked the town looking for gold nuggets everywhere. Props to you and if I lived there I would do the same thing. As to the quality of girls in your recent pics, they are excellent. The 2nd and last pic are especially appealing to me. Much respect to you.
I would say girls in any venue can and will be good providers as long as the punter negotiates well for it and stands by his decision to get what he wants and not accept too much less.Agreed, unfortunately the latter part of your post is what most dudes don't stick to. They let the provider get away with far less than agreed upon. Us "residents" are far more likely to stand our ground.
Yeah. I am dense.
Someone else care to explain the first sentence?Yes, I am afraid so. You see, to "torture semantics" is just another way of saying what you accused me of in the related post:
Torture:
Inflict severe pain on.
"most of the victims had been brutally tortured".
Synonyms: inflict pain on, ill-treat, abuse, mistreat, maltreat, persecute.
"they have tortured suspects in order to extract confessions".
Semantics:
the meaning of a word, phrase, sentence, or text.
Plural noun: semantics.
"such quibbling over semantics may seem petty stuff".
Agreed, unfortunately the latter part of your post is what most dudes don't stick to. They let the provider get away with far less than agreed upon. Us "residents" are far more likely to stand our ground.What surprises me is how many guys don't even think a chat/negotiation about "For What?" ought to go hand-in-hand with virtually every quote from a girl re "How Much". And then they complain that they got this act covered, that didn't happen, she never did this and that. They thought they won the "negotiation" by talking the girl down from 2500 to 2000 without considering how godawful the girl can make it if you have not connected the "For What?" to the "How Much" part.
I would feel I won the negotiation if she agreed to 2500 UP from 2000 after she agreed to a True GFE, no tricks and no pay if it doesn't actually happen that way for me. Guys, that can actually be negotiated and agreed to if that kind of result is important to you. And then you are on the road to near certain Heaven your way from the moment you take that first step toward your hotel room and not need to have another conversation or confrontation about it again. Kudos to you if you also can bring down her asking price. But, seriously, are you going to walk away from that kind of low, low, low risk deal for 500 baht?
Crocodilexp
11-28-18, 07:51
What surprises me is how many guys don't even think a chat/negotiation about "For What?" ought to go hand-in-hand with virtually every quote from a girl re "How Much".The problem is that "for what" promises mean very little, it all depends on the execution. If the girl has a bad attitude, she can perform a token act, but in a way that doesn't please the customer much, if at all.
You can't meaningfully agree on a "True GFE", given that even most of mongers would not fully agree what it means. You can agree on the BBBJ, but it could end up being brief and poorly done. You can agree on DFK, and it might end up being minimal, forced and with a frown. You can agree on CIM, but if she does fine otherwise and pulls out, are you really not going to pay her?
One non-standard service that you can meaningfully agree on is anal. No way for a girl to do that without having a dick well inside her ass. Another one is BBFS, though it's madness with a working girl, especially one who readily agrees to it. Unfortunately, these days BBBJ needs to be added to the list, though it used to be 100% standard and expected just a few years ago. Almost anything else you can try to specify, but if a girl wants to avoid it or do a minimal job, there's no way to hold her to it.
I prefer my sessions to be spontaneous and friendly, rather than just checking items from a checklist, while the girl tries to resist you on each item.
HorseTrader
11-28-18, 08:12
The problem is that "for what" promises mean very little, it all depends on the execution. If the girl has a bad attitude, she can perform a token act, but in a way that doesn't please the customer much, if at all.
You can't meaningfully agree on a "True GFE", given that even most of mongers would not fully agree what it means. You can agree on the BBBJ, but it could end up being brief and poorly done. You can agree on DFK, and it might end up being minimal, forced and with a frown. You can agree on CIM, but if she does fine otherwise and pulls out, are you really not going to pay her?
One non-standard service that you can meaningfully agree on is anal. No way for a girl to do that without having a dick well inside her ass. Another one is BBFS, though it's madness with a working girl, especially one who readily agrees to it. Unfortunately, these days BBBJ needs to be added to the list, though it used to be 100% standard and expected just a few years ago. Almost anything else you can try to specify, but if a girl wants to avoid it or do a minimal job, there's no way to hold her to it.
I prefer my sessions to be spontaneous and friendly, rather than just checking items from a checklist, while the girl tries to resist you on each item.I agree 100%. There is no way to effectively predict performance in advance.
My most successful experiences in USA, Mexico, and Thailand have been when I could feel that the girl liked me and wanted to go with me more than some other punter. The girl needs to look good enough, but there is no point in working on the hottest girl around if she seems more interest in chatting with her friends or if she is going from man to man looking for anyone to bar fine her.
My lifetime best professional sex was with an average looking Butterflies gogo girl, but she clearly picked me from the crowd to work on.
The problem is that "for what" promises mean very little, it all depends on the execution. If the girl has a bad attitude, she can perform a token act, but in a way that doesn't please the customer much, if at all.
You can't meaningfully agree on a "True GFE", given that even most of mongers would not fully agree what it means. You can agree on the BBBJ, but it could end up being brief and poorly done. You can agree on DFK, and it might end up being minimal, forced and with a frown. You can agree on CIM, but if she does fine otherwise and pulls out, are you really not going to pay her?
One non-standard service that you can meaningfully agree on is anal. No way for a girl to do that without having a dick well inside her ass. Another one is BBFS, though it's madness with a working girl, especially one who readily agrees to it. Unfortunately, these days BBBJ needs to be added to the list, though it used to be 100% standard and expected just a few years ago. Almost anything else you can try to specify, but if a girl wants to avoid it or do a minimal job, there's no way to hold her to it.
I prefer my sessions to be spontaneous and friendly, rather than just checking items from a checklist, while the girl tries to resist you on each item.I agree with you, spontaneous is preferred; it's a shame that we have to resort to negotiations these days. On the occasions I do negotiate, I ask them if they have seen a "sex movie," then I tell them that is want, or I might tell them I want them to be like they are with a boyfriend they really like.
Sadly, I think the expectations of so many dudes is so low that the performance bar has been lowered to ridiculous standards.
Blanquiceleste
11-28-18, 15:00
Yes, I am afraid so. You see, to "torture semantics" is just another way of saying what you accused me of in the related post:
Torture:
Inflict severe pain on.
"most of the victims had been brutally tortured".
Synonyms: inflict pain on, ill-treat, abuse, mistreat, maltreat, persecute.
"they have tortured suspects in order to extract confessions".
Semantics:
the meaning of a word, phrase, sentence, or text.
Plural noun: semantics.
"such quibbling over semantics may seem petty stuff".Thank you.
This man (now I am not sure) is a scream! Someone give this guy here a medal. Pure entertainment.
Thank you.
This man (now I am not sure) is a scream! Someone give this guy here a medal. Pure entertainment.That's nothing. I'm still laughing about some fool who paid 2.5 million rupiah for a BATS girl in Jakarta.
The problem is that "for what" promises mean very little, it all depends on the execution. If the girl has a bad attitude, she can perform a token act, but in a way that doesn't please the customer much, if at all.
You can't meaningfully agree on a "True GFE", given that even most of mongers would not fully agree what it means. You can agree on the BBBJ, but it could end up being brief and poorly done. You can agree on DFK, and it might end up being minimal, forced and with a frown. You can agree on CIM, but if she does fine otherwise and pulls out, are you really not going to pay her?
One non-standard service that you can meaningfully agree on is anal. No way for a girl to do that without having a dick well inside her ass. Another one is BBFS, though it's madness with a working girl, especially one who readily agrees to it. Unfortunately, these days BBBJ needs to be added to the list, though it used to be 100% standard and expected just a few years ago. Almost anything else you can try to specify, but if a girl wants to avoid it or do a minimal job, there's no way to hold her to it.
I prefer my sessions to be spontaneous and friendly, rather than just checking items from a checklist, while the girl tries to resist you on each item.I largely agree, too. But when I referred to a "True GFE", I was mostly using that as a euphemism for what matters to me; BBFS+CIP. And, as you said, that is a non-standard service that you can meaningfully negotiate. Sure, the girl can go as stiff as a statue in the room and make it nearly impossible to accomplish. But, thankfully, that is very rare.
However, that also brings in the other part of the negotiation I have on occasion put into it. Sadly, these days it is sometimes necessary for me to add the "or I will not give you any money. You ok?" to the discussion. Mind you, I only add that part when I am hot enough for the girl but have that nagging feeling she is also a trickster. On the one hand, it eliminates some girls who cannot accept that proviso that I am very happy to be eliminated. And on the other hand, I have quite often had that girl who seems a bit too full of herself and capable of being a trickster agree and the rest of the night goes far better than I ever thought it would.
Banana Boi
11-29-18, 06:09
for what matters to me; BBFS+CIP.You really should consider Phnom Penh. Most bar girls there jump on you BBFS whether you want it or not. I don't think khmer girls know what condoms are. Oddly, they think a BJ is disgusting.
You really should consider Phnom Penh. Most bar girls there jump on you BBFS whether you want it or not. I don't think khmer girls know what condoms are. Oddly, they think a BJ is disgusting.Or pretty much anywhere in PI.
Mostek6502
12-02-18, 15:41
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
I don't know how much of this is true, but, I know it has happened in the past. In fact, an unmarried friend of mine did something similar to a girl after a 3-week trip. Eventually my friend sent money via Western Union, but it wasn't without a fight.If you agree to pay the girl, you pay her. Yes, she is naive. She should have seen the money every few days.
It is not blackmail on the girls part, she is just ensuring he meets the verbal contract he agreed to. He is reprehensible for doing this, and deserves it.
Hey guys,
I've been on this forum for a really long time and had my first trip to Pattaya I fucked up. I thought I knew what I was doing but it turned out I probably had the worse series of events happen to me. Are you sure the fucked up part didn't began from the moment you try to make a play on the Monkeypaw branded name? Monkeypaw is loved in the spirit world, and the good spirits don't fancy those that try to play him out. But lesson learned right? Now let's dive right into Monkeypaw's final report on my two weeks in Pattaya, shall we?
Part 1.
For those who have been long awaiting a Monkeypaw style report, Christmas has come early this year and Santa having ho ho hoed for the last two weeks or so, has granted your wish to cure you of this thing called boredom. And "no," I don't want nor do I need anybody to sit on my lap, not even the hottest Go Go bars girls, because then it means that they are something special to me and therefore can tie me down. I'm a Playboy, by nature (so basically I monger to save from breaking the normal girls' hearts and not really a monger), so nobody on this planet is that particular to me to get that privilege. Definitely, not a bunch fuddy duddies behind a keyboard, who may actually enjoy that kind of experience. So anyways, I just finished up two weeks in heaven, two weeks in hell, whatever you want to call it. The same conclusion still holds true as it did before. Pattaya is still #1 for Monkeypaw and Monkeypaw is still #1 for Pattaya. But, finally, I have some time with this little break from Thailand, due to flying back 31 hours to the States to take my Earth mom to the airport in Houston. Yep, that's the Monkeypaw thing to do because it shows you have true freedom from all evil and from this world. Monkeypaw is free from the influences of money, people, sex, pleasure, sleep, food, or even Father time. I do the things I do and when I do it, due to a higher calling, a higher power always guiding me. (can't' believe I just said do-do-do-due all in one sentence) But anyways again, it means when I feel the need to fulfill an oath, and not disappoint, you better hold on to your horses because only God can stop me then. Still on the topic of airport, my arrival at BKK around 6 am went more smooth than previous visits. The immigration officer, who was a lady, looked at my passport and said "Mister, you already have 10 tourist stamps this year. " To which I replied, "Yes, for a total of 299 days for holiday in Thailand this year, I know" with a grin. She then, of course, asked "Why you come so many many to Thailand and why you cannot get visa?" I was thinking very hard to what to say. Let's see, previously the excuses told were as follow.
1. I've already told them that my family sponsored two orphaned baby elephants in Thailand.
2. My family donated millions of bahts to Thai charities for abandoned children.
3. That I enjoy the sexual freedom and the girls at the Go Go bars that can only be found in Pattaya and Bangkok.
4. The last one I used was that I was married in Bangkok before, so I often travel here in order to reminisce the wedding to my departed wife.
So what should Monkeypaw say this time? Heck, after a few seconds of eerie silence, I just told her the truth. "I don't work. I don't go to school. Look at all these tattoos over my body. Who is going to hire me for a job?" (Honestly, I wanted to tell her, one of my nicknames is anh-Thai, so I'm thinking my daddy made Thailand as a place for me to find myself and play in) Then, I told her to look at some of those 30 day visa exempt stamps this year. 6 of those 10 stamps can be distinguished as coming from supervising immigration officers who have pulled me to the side, interviewed me, made a phone call or two, and then let me pass right along with their special stamp and a smile. I did however, left out the part that I heard the same words over and over again from them, "Please don't get in any more trouble with the police. " The lady immigration officer just sat there smiling, listening, and flipping through all the pages of my passport. As I spoke. She then finally said to me, "I think you come Thailand many. You sure you no have girlfriend here?" and then still stamped my passport for the 11th time this year. Monkeypaw just smiled back, took my passport, and said to her, "I do have girlfriend here. Her name Thailand. " Yep, immigration is entertaining as always, but this time it only took a few minutes and I was on my way.
For this trip, I decided to use the bus to shuttle to hotel service from BKK to Pattaya offered by Bell Travel. It was only 280 baht and offered a reclining seat so I can nap on the two hour ride. Could have paid 1000 baht for a private car, but those seats don't recline, plus I needed time to freshen up and eat after my long flight. Folks may wonder, MP, you aren't hurting for cash, why go cheap? Go reread the previous two sentences before this one and you will understand. To get to my level, you aren't stupid, logic m mind always rules. There is a reason and rationale for everything I do. It's all a part of a bigger plan that 99.9% of folks couldn't even begin to fathom and understand. Did I lose you yet? Even on ISG, all you have to do is look closely at my earliest posts, the attention it garnered, and follow me up until today. You then might be able to catch on that "the tortoise is about to whip ass on the hare. " Monkeypaw is that cold. By the way, while I was waiting on the bus and eating at the food court, I was approached by a very unattractive girl. She said to me "You don't remember me?" I frowned, shook my head, realizing she had no make up on and hoped it wasn't one the girls I took before in Bangkok. BB, can you guess who it was? Hint: meow meow (yeah don't want to see that without her liquid face with painted colors).
Now it's story time. Can I get a clap, your hands everybody. And everybody clap your hands? (By the way, does anyone know where that line came from?) It was famous movie 1980's movie that should have taught folks, brains over brawn, and having smarts can get you all the hot pussy in life. Here's a clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRG2oAQhso By the way, notice the "Blue M" at the beginning of the video. Might be important later on a pop quiz. Let's try to keep up and see how many underlying meanings you can get out of this report. There are so so many Blues Clues.
"Over 30 years ago, when I was but a tiny baby, I was crawling half naked onto a busy street in Bangkok. (This is when I would pretend to crawl with my hands and show a few baby pictures of me. The look on the faces of those who view these pictures were always were in awe at how cute the tiny version of Monkeypaw was a baby.) Then before I was about to get ran over and splatted on the road by a speeding tuk tuk, this tall farang tourist from America, from out of nowhere, ran towards me and scooped me away from the imminent danger. The curious and caring tall farang, then went searching for my parents only to find my two dirty brothers eating garbage and spoiled som tum out of a trash dumpster. My brothers didn't like to sharing with me, so that's why I had crawled away, alone, all by myself, (this is when I made a pouty face and kissy lip) in search of something to eat. I (would then rub my belly in front to say I was hungry.) To make a long story short, the then young, tall farang realized that we three were abandoned and orphaned, and adopted all of us, and sent us to different parts of the world to live a better life. Now we are all in Pattaya enjoying the end of the world as we know it."
The girls at the club would ask, who are your brothers? I would point to Phazze93 (staring back at me a little lost) and to Lew Ashby (too busy trying to grab titties). And this is our dad, pointing to FL Hawk, who was sitting there minding his own business sipping on a Diet Coke. When asked, the guys played along graciously with this story. Even FL Hawk told them, "Look at us now, I have definitely failed as a father. " The girls would smile, laugh, and roll their eyes at me all at once. But heck, it only takes one sucker out of the bunch to believe that story and give MP the experience of a lifetime, or not. Actually, all it was, is a subliminal call out that can be heard loud and clear to the hottest girls in that bunch or any bunch. They know, "this guy here obviously has alot of game and he is the one I want to play with, win lose, or draw. " This is the story we stuck with from bar to bar on this trip, when the girls we were drinking with at the Go Go bars asked how do we knew each other? It was always the Paw, also known under many nicknames as MP, Monkeypaw, Monkey, anh-Thai, Doc, Ducky, Mouse, Ut Deus, and perhaps one more name that some of you may already know, meeting up with good ole dad, FL Hawk, and my two bros Phazze93 and Lew Ashby, with visits from our long lost cousin Banana Boi, and even a guest appearance from time to time by Dart13, our Russian bodyguard. We were an odd looking bunch strolling on Walking Street, but things were always kept interesting, especially at Palace.
So since we are on the topic of games and hustle. For those who are scared to death to step into a top club like Palace because you fear these girls, there's not much to be said. The fear is real, the best and hottest girls will take your lunch, eat it, and share with their friends while watching you starve to slow and painful death. It's probably better that you just sit behind the computer and play "keyboard cowboy" and make up as many (as Bruce likes to say) yippee ki-yay excuses as you can not to venture into places like this. If money is the issue, then say money is the issue. But don't for an instant, think that these girls aren't top notch at their game, not hot enough, or not smarter than those of you that aren't even brave enough to play with them. So silly tricks like carrying a photoshopped doctor's note saying you don't have a disease in order to get BBFS will get you laughed by all the girls at Palace, which means ran out of Walking Street. But heck, if you got big balls that hang low enough, you can still try it. Just make sure you tuck those low hangers in to hide me. Also let me know when. And if it works, Monkeypaw will be the first one to download Adobe Acrobat software. Until then, some of us, will however, take a moment in silence, to listen to any other concerns and woes, you may have for not showing up. Moment over.
Also, I'll let Phazze93, FL Hawk, and Lew Ashby give details to what happened when they try to play with the top end trophy girls. At least I will give them a chance to speak out first to tell their side of the story. But hopefully, doing this in person with the Paw, one can really appreciate how in the fuck do I run all this game on the girls and get away with it. I'm that good. And I've been told by so many people even outside P4 P and all aspects of life as well. I once had this white girl in college turned herself into a stripper to paid for my apartment, food, and bills, while I was lazy doing nothing. My dad said, why you let this poor girl do this with all that you have. Devil made me do it dad was my only excuse. (But it was really me testing my game at an early age) Anyways back to my new found friends. These guys came with a shit load of money in their pockets, that made Monkeypaw's wallet seemed slim and my own budget of 8,000 baht a night seemed small. But of course, I'm not a weekend warrior or sex tourist on a holiday. I do this shit almost every fucking day and the 8,000 baht a day budget is just my daily fee for entertainment and almost like gym membership which gives me access to 2 hours of cardio with a sexy girl each night. One of us had so much money that "somebody" dropped a stack of it and was called back by a door girl to pick it up. Wonder, if you weren't with MP, you think they would have been called to back? Do you think we would have gotten all that prime seating with the excellent views in the middle of the bars? Only God knows right? All I can say, is I'm glad everybody who I met had a good and entertaining time. Yes, FL Hawk, the cool wet napkins is for customers they deem important. And that was you that night. Sorry, about the confusion there. By the way, I use those to wipe my shoes clean.
Now moving on to more important things. Monkeypaw always comes prepared to play games back with everybody who wants to play with him. And by everybody, I mean everybody. Be honest, yes even you, Lew, FL, Phazze, and BB. Do you guys ever get this feeling that Monkeypaw is fucking with all of us, just like he is fucking around with all the girls? Hahaha, you'll never know. But it's fun though, right? And like I told you all before, I bring LIFE to everything and everybody around me. It's entertainment from this world that we live in. And one day soon, you will really know what this world is and you will appreciate our time together. This time, on the menu for our fun and entertainment at the Go Go clubs were the following.
1. Cockroaches being thrown into the lady drinks. Yeah, MP and the rest of the guys really doesn't give a fuck.
2. Scorpions and centipedes being thrown on stages full of dancing and then screaming girls.
3. Go Go dancers, waitresses, mamasans, security, and random customers (whom we don't even know) getting electrocuted and shocked by lighters and laser pointers.
4. Girls hair getting pulled to make sure it's real and not fake extensions.
5. Dancers getting stung and popped in the ass with 20 baht missiles being launched by our hand made rubber band sling shots. FL for being in his 60's was popping them in their asses the hardest that it left red marks.
6. Miniature vibrators attacking the girls in the clubs, along with some wandering hands.
7. Buzzing cock rings handed to a few waitresses a souvenirs from Monkeypaw. That's is as close to an orgasm that these waitresses will get from me.
8. And to Lew, Monkeypaw two paws up for you. You've got some balls for riding fat bull like that. We were just joking. See how this Monkeypaw thing works?
9. And there was also some dancing on the stage when it was full of girls going on at Palace (I shall keep it anonymous, but not me).
10. And lastly, for the lucky girls that get chosen to go with me, the sex toys in my room and snake in the shower awaited you after all the above has been witnessed. But yet they still go, why? Because I am Monkeypaw and I do this shit for a living.
And I will ask you all this. You all had a feeling that all the other customers hated the attention we got, plus some of the girls were annoyed, right? But the whole time, you always felt safe with Monkeypaw and it was going to be just fine. The girls you chose still came when we called them and nobody was going to give us any trouble or kick us out, right? That's what is called respect , knowing that you are in the company of presence of something so much bigger than you, or what Monkeypaw likes to call a bigger spirit. You can look it as MP raises hell or brings LIFE to everywhere I go. Whatever you want to call it, you will NEVER call it boredom. In case you are unsure, ask FL Hawk, somebody who is twice his 3 adopted sons' age, who is typically reserved as a corpse, coming out of his shell to thoroughly enjoy himself with us, and living it up Monkeypaw style. I keep telling folks that Monkeypaw has the ability and power to get people to come out of their cocoon, become brave, and do some things that they are not accustomed to. But have peace of mind in knowing, that perhaps you aren't the only one, and even Monkeypaw has done more embarrassing things as well. Not many people have stripped down to their boxer shorts in front of Citibank at Asoke junction in hopes of transforming in an angel and flying away. Perhaps, a story for another night, or perhaps not.
To be continued.
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 02:37
I largely agree, too. But when I referred to a "True GFE", I was mostly using that as a euphemism for what matters to me; BBFS+CIP. If that is the case then 90% of the hookers that I meet in Thailand and P. I. are true GFE.
If that is the case then 90% of the hookers that I meet in Thailand and P. I. are true GFE.That was certainly my experience in the P. I., too. But not in Thailand. If 90% of the hookers I have met (and wanted to have sex with) in Thailand offered or accepted BBFS+CIP, that would mean BBFS+CIP was as standard in Thailand's P4P scene as it is in the P. I., which I never found to be the case for me. I could never rely on 90% of the Thai P4P girls I want to have sex with agreeing to BBFS+CIP. Certainly not for the going rate at a given venue or slightly above the going rate.
I never like posting photos of girls I know but here are some Pattaya bar girls. These are not even gogo girls but rather just from local Pattaya area bars. I'm pretty sure most guys would consider paying 1000 baht for them. Am I correct? I'm very glad these girls can't cut it in BKK and have to come to Pattaya. I personally have yet to meet a girl as pretty as A1 in Bangkok. Please help me and let me where I can find one.All well above average and all with the semi westernised look I think. Yes girls prettier than A1 do exist, although hard to find I guess, try Billboard. I can't name a specific one that is still to be found. 2 or 3 Crazy House girls long gone were that pretty to my taste at least (maybe less westernised). You have seen pic of Donut my favourite in the past. I actually slightly prefer A4, I think with a very natural look, and definitely don't go for the "Morticia Adams" white sharp face and with exaggerated eyes. I would not give a second glance to A3 either. Just not the style I like.
Yes I agree, not easy to do better in Bangkok bars and especially not in MPs.
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 04:57
That was certainly my experience in the P. I., too. But not in Thailand. If 90% of the hookers I have met (and wanted to have sex with) in Thailand offered or accepted BBFS+CIP, that would mean BBFS+CIP was as standard in Thailand's P4P scene as it is in the P. I., which I never found to be the case for me. I could never rely on 90% of the Thai P4P girls I want to have sex with agreeing to BBFS+CIP. Certainly not for the going rate at a given venue or slightly above the going rate.Well there is the difference. You are going on the offering accepting agreeing principle which ruins the mood. You are making it transactional. I just say lets go fuck and see what leads to what.
Well there is the difference. You are going on the offering accepting agreeing principle which ruins the mood. You are making it transactional. I just say lets go fuck and see what leads to what.If I were fine with choosing primarily random girls on the street, I wouldn't care about what leads to what either. I would also just say let's go fuck. And then if at crunch time in the room the girl refuses to fuck me bareback or give me a proper blowjob, I could just say, "No problem. Nice chatting with you. Bye."
However, if I am more into girls for whom buying a Lady Drink, paying a barfine and assuming to pay at least some basic amount of fee to her, I see little reason to pay all that upfront just to see what happens. Particularly since if at least one of those two above things doesn't happen, I won't be engaging in sex to completion. Besides, it is so easy to get "what happens" cleared up prior to spending much of anything. And with dating site girls there is almost no reason not to cover everything from shaved pussy to BBFS+CIP to BBBJ+CIM (and often Swallow) before I spend so much as a baht.
Meanwhile, I don't "need" to have 90% of the Thai girls I meet agree to BBFS+CIP with me and still have a life filled with so many cute young girls of my taste willing to do that with me I could fill a month with a different one every day and not repeat one. Then there would likely be all new ones on the roster by the end of that month. My rate of success on that count seems to be high enough without reaching 90% of every Thai girl I meet to make it very, very easy to walk away from a girl who does not respond well to my so-called transactional approach and find another one who will.
Yes girls prettier than A1 do exist
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I actually slightly prefer A4,
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I personally have yet to meet a girl as pretty as A1 in Bangkok.I like A1 and A4 too but they look very much alike. Aren't they one and the same?
And I like A5 as well. A2 and A3 don't do it for me.
If I were fine with choosing primarily random girls on the street, I wouldn't care about what leads to what either. I would also just say let's go fuck. And then if at crunch time in the room the girl refuses to fuck me bareback or give me a proper blowjob, I could just say, "No problem. Nice chatting with you. Bye."
However, if I am more into girls for whom buying a Lady Drink, paying a barfine and assuming to pay at least some basic amount of fee to her, I see little reason to pay all that upfront just to see what happens. Particularly since if at least one of those two above things doesn't happen, I won't be engaging in sex to completion. Besides, it is so easy to get "what happens" cleared up prior to spending much of anything. And with dating site girls there is almost no reason not to cover everything from shaved pussy to BBFS+CIP to BBBJ+CIM (and often Swallow) before I spend so much as a baht.
Meanwhile, I don't "need" to have 90% of the Thai girls I meet agree to BBFS+CIP with me and still have a life filled with so many cute young girls of my taste willing to do that with me I could fill a month with a different one every day and not repeat one. Then there would likely be all new ones on the roster by the end of that month. My rate of success on that count seems to be high enough without reaching 90% of every Thai girl I meet to make it very, very easy to walk away from a girl who does not respond well to my so-called transactional approach and find another one who will.I am more of the 'get in the room and see if she goes for BBFS' type of guy. I am curious though how you go about asking? Do you buy the lady drink first or do you wait until she says she will do BBFS' before buying her a drink? Or do you try to charm her first and then bring it up?
Mr. Paw, you owe me a bottle of screen cleaner.
You can make it up to me by reccomending a girl who will accept 100 baht a minute haha.
I'm pretty sure most guys would consider paying 1000 baht for them. Those were 1000 baht girls?
I am more of the 'get in the room and see if she goes for BBFS' type of guy. I am curious though how you go about asking? Do you buy the lady drink first or do you wait until she says she will do BBFS' before buying her a drink? Or do you try to charm her first and then bring it up?I use a different approach under different circumstances. The girl usually doesn't bring it up directly but gives me an opener to broach the subject if she says something most guys hear and don't recognize as an opportunity to broach the subject; I ask what will we do in the room? She says "Everything!" We've all heard that a thousand times, right? I say oh really? Let's find out if that is true or not. In my case I cannot wear a condom, but I got a vasectomy many years ago and I am very safe (can show a recent medical document if she wants to see it, which she rarely does). You ok to boom boom with me no condom?
A more likely scenario is I ask if she will do something special for me if I barfine her; which is give me a blowjob with a cum inside mouth finish. Will you do that for me? If she says yes, then I am usually fine with taking her to my room to "see what happens" with no discussion in the bar about BBFS. I now have a commitment from her to give me a BBBJ+CIM (yes, yes, I know that commitment can be broken, too). But I might have asked that question for only one reason and it isn't because I actually WANT her to give me a BBBJ+CIM. It is merely used to establish a floor, the bottom line default sexual act below which I would not accept an agreement to take a girl. By the time we get into the room and while we are there, the whole subject of why I want a BBBJ+CIM instead of boom-boom (with condom) might have been broached and cleared up yes or no. Or, more likely, I will become, like you, a "get in the room and see if she goes for BBFS" kind of guy. Many times we have never gotten around to me finishing with BBBJ+CIM and instead move right into BBFS+CIP. But if it turns out she is NOT going to allow a BBFS+CIP, then I will just have to muddle through somehow with her giving me that full and complete BBBJ+CIM instead. And that is a gamble I am fine with taking. LOL.
Other times I have been in go-go bars with so-called "Special" girls whose barfine is higher than the other girls, girls that frankly would believably rank as any "top girl" I have ever seen walking the streets or entering the best bars in any Thai red light district, and asked them (over a Lady Drink) why are they considered so "special"? Whatever answer they give, I feel totally justified in then asking them the "uncool" question if by "special" that means they are ok to go bareback with me (boom boom no condom)? A higher percentage of those higher priced barfine girls than most guys would predict will in fact give you an undisturbed and straight up "Yes, if you want" reply. That might also include paying her 500 baht more than the going rate to go along with the higher barfine, BTW. I am talking about a 1,500 baht barfine vs a 700 baht barfine.
Banana Boi
12-03-18, 18:08
Those were 1000 baht girls?No. My posting of the photos was in response to ET saying he wouldn't pay 1000 baht for any girl in pattaya. IIRC he has since responded that since I can't confirm BBFS or BBBJ CIM with these girls they are still not worth 1000 baht to him.
Even if I did know the answer I certainly would not be posting that information on a public board. That information is for people I meet and trust.
he wouldn't pay 1000 baht for any girl in pattaya.I wouldn't go that far, but I definitely do not like Pattaya and much prefer Bangkok. Same with Indonesia. I much prefer Jakarta over Bali.
Hi Guys.
I see a lot talk every now and then about having game when it comes to pulling hookers in Ago go's, Beer Bar's and other establishments in Pattaya! My idea with hookers is that all the game you need is money. I have a pal in Pattaya at the moment who has pulled a Hooters girl, now that is having game. My idea of game is getting laid for free by quality girls. My next trip is in February and I will be in Pattaya for 8 days and I am setting myself a target of 5 non hookers of any description, so that will exclude any payment other dinner, drinks and / or movie. I am in my late 50's not handsome, not fashionably dressed and over weight so if I pull this off I truly must have game. My target age group will be 20 to 30's but I will take on older ladies who are in good condition.
Now I know I am going to get shouted down by some members and lectured by others about the true meaning of game in their eyes but those of us who don't have heads in dark places will appreciate my post. I acknowledge that you guys who live there get free girls all the time and so you should.
I would love to hear other members idea regarding this subject as my friends and myself do chuckle when we read about having game when paying girls for sex.
Rob.
Member #4591
12-04-18, 00:21
Hi Guys.
I see a lot talk every now and then about having game when it comes to pulling hookers in Ago go's, Beer Bar's and other establishments in Pattaya! My idea with hookers is that all the game you need is money. I have a pal in Pattaya at the moment who has pulled a Hooters girl, now that is having game. My idea of game is getting laid for free by quality girls. My next trip is in February and I will be in Pattaya for 8 days and I am setting myself a target of 5 non hookers of any description, so that will exclude any payment other dinner, drinks and / or movie. I am in my late 50's not handsome, not fashionably dressed and over weight so if I pull this off I truly must have game. My target age group will be 20 to 30's but I will take on older ladies who are in good condition.
Now I know I am going to get shouted down by some members and lectured by others about the true meaning of game in their eyes but those of us who don't have heads in dark places will appreciate my post. I acknowledge that you guys who live there get free girls all the time and so you should.
I would love to hear other members idea regarding this subject as my friends and myself do chuckle when we read about having game when paying girls for sex.
Rob.Bravo Rob. You are right on the money with this. However with members like MP, game is pulling the most in demand go go girls and yes he is paying them. In my opinion, game is getting free pussy without paying the girl but have you ever thought about another aspect of this so called "game"?
What about pulling a hot working girl, paying her but getting exactly what you want from her. For example, one punter bar fines a hot girl, pays the premium price and gets a starfish. Another punter pulls the same girl but gets a true GFE in the sense of BBFS, CIP, CIM, and maybe pays a lower price. This in my opinion is also "game".
Anyways, at the end of the day, I could give a rats ass about Game. My goal is to fuck hot girls and get them to do what I want and have a blast doing it. Life is short so we must live everyday to the fullest!
PedroMorales
12-04-18, 00:54
My idea of game is getting laid for free by quality girls. I am in my late 50's not handsome, not fashionably dressed and over weight so if I pull this off I truly must have game.
Rob.Thousands of guys get free rides every day in Pattaya. We call them tuk tuk drivers. Nice work if you can get it.
Bravo Rob. You are right on the money with this. However with members like MP, game is pulling the most in demand go go girls and yes he is paying them. In my opinion, game is getting free pussy without paying the girl but have you ever thought about another aspect of this so called "game"?
What about pulling a hot working girl, paying her but getting exactly what you want from her. For example, one punter bar fines a hot girl, pays the premium price and gets a starfish. Another punter pulls the same girl but gets a true GFE in the sense of BBFS, CIP, CIM, and maybe pays a lower price. This in my opinion is also "game".
Anyways, at the end of the day, I could give a rats ass about Game. My goal is to fuck hot girls and get them to do what I want and have a blast doing it. Life is short so we must live everyday to the fullest!Hi Dog.
I have had only one bad experience in my limited time in Thailand and that was with a young street walker outside of Nana Hotel on a Thursday mid afternoon! Sent her packing with half of the 1000 agreed upon, I don't I even got my dick wet. I have had some great encounters and I put it down to showing a bit of respect to the girls and it is surprising what they will do for you.
All the best.
No. My posting of the photos was in response to ET saying he wouldn't pay 1000 baht for any girl in pattaya. IIRC he has since responded that since I can't confirm BBFS or BBBJ CIM with these girls they are still not worth 1000 baht to him.
Even if I did know the answer I certainly would not be posting that information on a public board. That information is for people I meet and trust.Before that takes on a life of its own, which they tend to do here, I would like to point out that what you were responding to by posting those pics was not really that I "wouldn't pay 1000 baht for any girl in pattaya":
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Personally, I can't think of a girl I've seen or been with in Pattaya that I'd pay as much as 1,000 baht for a ST. But that is another story.
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I am sure some go-go bars in Pattaya have a handful of overpriced lookers. But I wasn't talking about girls based only on their looks. I was talking about girls I have seen and have "experienced". I have seen, interviewed and taken many girls in Pattaya. But for the past 5-6 years and maybe 9-10 visits, there is not one I would pay as much as 1,000, scratch that, 200 baht to meet or "experience" again.And with regard to my question about whether they were up for certain sexual acts:
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Do all of those girls do bareback with customers who negotiate it with them beforehand for the going rate or a little more than that? How about a BBBJ with a full CIM finish?
-snip-Surely, you would not feel too uncomfortable about posting info about their availability for the BBBJ+CIM part of my question especially if, for instance, the girls you post pics of and clearly identify worked in a bar somewhat known for specializing in BJs or girls who work in MPs where BBBJ+CIM is somewhat the norm. And, as far as anyone knew at the time, some or all of those girls might have been working in such a venue. We still don't know.
However, BananaBoi, I am with you in not being comfortable about posting specifics about girls with whom I have engaged in BBFS+CIP and solely as related to that particular activity. But mostly in Thailand because there is still a stigma for girls to be known for offering it in Thailand. On the other hand, I assume you would not hesitate to post pics and specifics about girls you were with in Phnom Penh even after you stated that those girls will jump on you without a mention of the word condom, right? Maybe you would feel the same way regarding The Philippines.
Hi Guys.
I see a lot talk every now and then about having game when it comes to pulling hookers in Ago go's, Beer Bar's and other establishments in Pattaya! My idea with hookers is that all the game you need is money. I have a pal in Pattaya at the moment who has pulled a Hooters girl, now that is having game. My idea of game is getting laid for free by quality girls. My next trip is in February and I will be in Pattaya for 8 days and I am setting myself a target of 5 non hookers of any description, so that will exclude any payment other dinner, drinks and / or movie. I am in my late 50's not handsome, not fashionably dressed and over weight so if I pull this off I truly must have game. My target age group will be 20 to 30's but I will take on older ladies who are in good condition.
Now I know I am going to get shouted down by some members and lectured by others about the true meaning of game in their eyes but those of us who don't have heads in dark places will appreciate my post. I acknowledge that you guys who live there get free girls all the time and so you should.
I would love to hear other members idea regarding this subject as my friends and myself do chuckle when we read about having game when paying girls for sex.
Rob.
Bravo Rob. You are right on the money with this. However with members like MP, game is pulling the most in demand go go girls and yes he is paying them. In my opinion, game is getting free pussy without paying the girl but have you ever thought about another aspect of this so called "game"?
What about pulling a hot working girl, paying her but getting exactly what you want from her. For example, one punter bar fines a hot girl, pays the premium price and gets a starfish. Another punter pulls the same girl but gets a true GFE in the sense of BBFS, CIP, CIM, and maybe pays a lower price. This in my opinion is also "game".
Anyways, at the end of the day, I could give a rats ass about Game. My goal is to fuck hot girls and get them to do what I want and have a blast doing it. Life is short so we must live everyday to the fullest!Rob and Bkkdog, you guys just cited pretty much what I try to spend my time, money and precious ejaculate on in this hobby.
Mr Enternational
12-04-18, 06:16
I am setting myself a target of 5 non hookers of any description, so that will exclude any payment other dinner, drinks and / or movie. I am in my late 50's not handsome, not fashionably dressed and over weight so if I pull this off I truly must have game. My target age group will be 20 to 30's but I will take on older ladies who are in good condition.I know it is good to have goals, but in this case you are setting yourself up for failure. Fucking with women is already like herding cats. Getting chicks is part game and part luck. You really don't just set out to do it as you have said you will do. You just fall into situations that lead you to that. It is best to start off with no expections, read the signals, and swing accordingly at the balls that are thrown to you.
Definitely no game or anything else needed when fucking with hookers. For years I have said just walk up to them and say let's go. You know what they are there for and they know what you are there for. An example of this can be seen when you hit a chick up on WeChat or Thaifriendly. You say hello and she responds with prices for short time or long time.
I thought the whole idea of fucking with hookers was so you wouldn't have to go through all the games or mating rituals that you do with non-pros. You can just cut to the chase and start fucking. Funny how guys still like to go through the mating rituals in a hoarhouse. They want to buy them drinks and try to chat them up in the name of thinking they will receive better service, and in true cat fashion they end up wandering away to their friends or some other punter in the place.
Getting chicks is part game and part luck. You really don't just set out to do it as you have said you will do. You just fall into situations that lead you to that. It is best to start off with no expections, read the signals, and swing accordingly at the balls that are thrown to you.Perhaps that is the best Game of all: quickly being able to get the best out of situations as they present themselves. 😁.
Just out of curiosity, do you guys mind posting some pics of the girls you're pulling freebies with?
Wondering what type of girl you guys are thinking of
Part 1.
For those who have been long awaiting a Monkeypaw style report, Christmas has come early this year and Santa having ho ho hoed for the last two weeks or so, has granted your wish to cure you of this thing called boredom. And "no," I don't want nor do I need anybody to sit on my lap, not even the hottest Go Go bars girls, because then it means that they are something special to me and therefore can tie me down. I'm a Playboy, by nature (so basically I monger to save from breaking the normal girls' hearts and not really a monger), so nobody on this planet is that particular to me to get that privilege.Part 2 or Part "Deus".
Honestly, after reading some of these thoughtless discussion about BBFS+CIP, whether game is needed (for the 100th time), and advice on trophy girls in the top Go Go bars (from so called sexperts who don't even step foot inside of them), Monkeypaw is really tempted to immediately instill some useful knowledge to the minds of the mindless. Because for one, it's the Monkeypaw thing to do, correct those who need correction. You know, it's like the feeling you get when you see another member brag about a PSE experience with a hot piece of ass he just met off ThaiFriendly, but then posts a pic of something that looks more like a ladyboy instead of a girl? But also, since I have a history of volunteering and doing charity work with those with mental disabilities, those who need some enlightenment will always hold a soft spot in the Paw's heart and another one between the Paw's balls. So after a few minutes of head nodding and chuckling at some of these posts, I have to restrain myself from intervening because Monkeypaw does have a report to finish. And sometimes I like to let others dig their own graves deeper, knowing Monkeypaw holds the final trump cards. Yes, mercy on your souls, shall Monkeypaw ever decides to pull them out. However I did ask God, (as if I didn't know the answer already), "Why would God create those whose seem brainless?" God answered, "The devil can create as well."
Onwards to the second part of my report which I like to call, "the fall from grace in order to ascend. " The previous trip (before this last 2 week excursion) in Pattaya was a month long, and ended in just a "meh" and not a bang. In messaging with a few members on the board, I told them that basically my last 5 girls on that Pattaya trip were barfined repeat of girls that I have fucked before. The girls were still hot (plus or minus a kilo or two), the Go Go bar experience was still entertaining, and their service was still excellent, but there was absolutely no challenge whatsoever in getting them. That made me bored. Monkeypaw always likes challenges, but at that time, the Paw found himself in a little rut. So I made like the wind and broke for Tijuana, only to be met with a bunch of non hygienically clean big assed Mexicanas to which I reported on in the Tijuana thread. Cleanliness is next to Godliness, and I am who I am, so I was utterly disgusted and limited my activities to just simply searching for the best shrimp and fish tacos while in Mexico. I regrouped and then headed back to Pattaya to meet up with those who wanted to experience the Monkeypaw in living color action, especially FL Hawk. That dude can write and write. Sometimes I re-read his reports so I can get sleepy and want to take a nap. Still that's some good shit there! If FL Hawk weren't doing what he does, my dad would hire him just to follow me around and be my personal scribe. We wouldn't pay him though, perhaps offer him a little salvation in exchange for his work. All FL Hawk has to do is document Monkeypaw's life experiences and teachings just like they did with Jesus. But he should probably help out if anybody gets the urge to nail my ass to a cross. Now back to Pattaya and the girls. I needed a slump buster and somebody to break the rut that I was in. Urban dictionary defines a "slumbuster" as:
When you're in a slump, you need an easy score to get your confidence back up and break*the slump, a slumpbuster. Often this means lowering your standards, and sleeping with someone you would never otherwise associate with. The term is obviously negative, and can even damage the reputation of someone who uses it; it implies that the "slumpbuster's" only purpose is to screw someone who's desperate for sex, and also implies that the person invoking the term uses women for sex.
So the first thing I did when I arrived to Pattaya was headed off to Soi 6. Tons of slump busters there, but I was looking for a particular, magical one that "the transcended" of Pattaya always talked about. Now if you are a seasoned monger and you know your shit about Pattaya, and of course, believe in a little luck. There is an urban legend about a crossed eyed, Thai girl, that works at the Thai Rose Bar, on the right hand side as you enter Soi 6 from Second Road. Rumor has it, that guys from all around the world, near and far, come to her when they see their luck with girls as running out or they don't have any at all. Meaning their sorry asses keep on getting rejected over and over by the better looking girls all their lives and at all the pay for play venues in Pattaya. In some parts, she is also known to some, as a ceremonial "right of passage" into manhood, that must be partaken for first timers in Pattaya. Hence, that's why you see a lot of farang dads bring their late teenage sons to Son 6 in order to break them into fucking girls. But I was only in a little rut, so no big deal for me. Those who have experienced her magic previously had given me some good advice before I ventured into her lair. I was told, the key here, is not to stare at her directly in the eyes, at least in the beginning. Just like the Medusa they warned. Hell, I'm not even sure that is possible with one eyeball looking one way, and the other one spinning around and doing loops in its socket. Whatever the case, I kept in mind to minimize looking directly into her gaze, wherever in which direction it may be. When I arrived at Thai Rose, I asked the girls up front about "she who has no name" and just pointed to my eyes. They took me inside and led me to her. I paid the 1000 to her and 300 for the use of the room, no drink required. I was there for some serious game changing luck, not because I was thirsty. I had that, I mean business look on my face, that often intimidates most people, so there was no push for me to buy anything else. Besides it was like only 2 pm and they had no other customers.
I had two choices here: 1. I could throat fuck her deeply until I cum or 2. I could bang her missionary until I cum. No other choices on the menu when asking for the Thai Rose slump buster special. This was what I was told. Why you might ask? Because legend has it, that if her eyes come uncrossed the moment you cum and bust your nut inside of her mouth or her pussy (with a condom I hope, unless your name is. Ah never mind too easy), your slump is broken and you will have years of good luck with girls. So only these two options allow you to see her eyes uncross and face change. And if her eyes do not uncross when you cum, then the slump and bad luck will continue, getting worse, until you fuck a woman twice your own weight. Yes, then you have to carry a portable scale everywhere you go in Pattaya in order to find a girl that qualifies. I weigh 68 kilos, I raghwe not ness with that. Now if you can't cum at all with her supposedly, world renowned, dick sucking skills or with missionary sex in that hour, you might as well get dressed and head your ass over to Pook Bar down the Soi. It's over for you with women and you might as well get used to tall ladyboys with biceps bigger than your. Sorry, but that's just how the world works, dim sum, lose sum. Monkeypaw opted for choice numero uno with the BJ and deep throat. I've never had a problem cumming this way. I would just close my eyes and imagine my favorite porn scene with Riley Reid and my jizz would spew out in a matter of minutes.
From the moment my cock was in her mouth, I was like "wait a minute, this feels like heaven. " Her dick sucking skills were the best that I've ever experienced in my life. Even better than anything at the former Dr. BJ in Bangkok. It felt as if I wanted to cum within less than minute of her sucking my dick. The way she licked, sucked, puckered, and squeezed my balls, I actually didn't want her to make me finish so quickly. Spit was drizzling down her mouth and onto her naked tits. I had to yell out to her "slowly!" and then she she started doing things with her mouth, tongue, and hands in sequence that I could predict like clockwork. The feeling was sensational, this crossed eyed girl was edging me with her mouth. She could sense when I was nearing my peak and about to lose my load, and she would drop me back down to just a "feel damn good stage" and then work me back up again. She did this over and over for at least 30 more minutes. It was driving me crazy. Finally, I told her okay, I want you to make me cum and you swallow okay? Little Miss Muffet, then went NSNQCIM berserko on my dick and a few minutes later when I was about to cum, I grabbed her by the ears and shouted "Oh My God! Dammit, look at me! Look at meeee. " She then stared up at me, my now pulsating cock still in her mouth, and fear in her both of her eyes, with about a gallon of hot white cum oozing from the side of her mouth. That moment, that gaze, we connected at a spiritual level and she knew exactly who or what Monkeypaw was. Those dark brown eyes of her became uncrossed magically and her face briefly turned "angelic" to me. The struggles I endure to become what I am. Monkeypaw pulled his throbbing dick out her mouth and stood there in conquest and relieved. My slump was finally over and I was ready to hit Walking Street with the other ISG members again, and battle some more.
To be continued.
Just out of curiosity, do you guys mind posting some pics of the girls you're pulling freebies with?
Wondering what type of girl you guys are thinking ofI will in February when I return. If you read correctly instead of being quick to judge you will see it is a goal I have set. But I predicted such post LOL.
Perhaps that is the best Game of all: quickly being able to get the best out of situations as they present themselves. 😁.3 hotel changes for one LOL.
I know it is good to have goals, but in this case you are setting yourself up for failure. Fucking with women is already like herding cats. Getting chicks is part game and part luck. You really don't just set out to do it as you have said you will do. You just fall into situations that lead you to that. It is best to start off with no expections, read the signals, and swing accordingly at the balls that are thrown to you.
Definitely no game or anything else needed when fucking with hookers. For years I have said just walk up to them and say let's go. You know what they are there for and they know what you are there for. An example of this can be seen when you hit a chick up on WeChat or Thaifriendly. You say hello and she responds with prices for short time or long time.
I thought the whole idea of fucking with hookers was so you wouldn't have to go through all the games or mating rituals that you do with non-pros. You can just cut to the chase and start fucking. Funny how guys still like to go through the mating rituals in a hoarhouse. They want to buy them drinks and try to chat them up in the name of thinking they will receive better service, and in true cat fashion they end up wandering away to their friends or some other punter in the place.If it comes off I am a happy man if not well I will just go to a bar or an ago go. LOL.
I will in February when I return. If you read correctly instead of being quick to judge you will see it is a goal I have set. But I predicted such post LOL.
Woah woah woah settle down big boy. No need to get your tits twisted. Where did I judge? I'm just asking a question since beauty is subjective.
My idea of a 10 could be an 8 in your eyes. Your idea of a 10 could be a 4 in my eyes. (w / the latter probably being more likely haha).
Just teasing. But perhaps take a second to stop being so focused on measuring your epeen with other old dudes on a mongering forum & relax huh?
Just out of curiosity, do you guys mind posting some pics of the girls you're pulling freebies with?
Wondering what type of girl you guys are thinking ofThis is not the place to find guys posting brag pics of girls they managed to fuck unless they are hookers, and even then face pics are not so likely. Still you can post your pics if you want.
Yes we will never know mostly if guys are fucking hags or beauties, however there is a shortage of good lookers in the Photo gallery, generally, such that I don't even open those threads normally.
On Soi Cowboy I observe guys going past with a very beautiful girl. 90% of those guys were probably Japanese or Korean. Most Farangs are getting the dregs, either by accident or design. Maybe less fussy, on average or wanted the girls to be every cheap. I could say that 90%+ of the guys with a Ladyboy are also Japanese. 90% of the guys with ugly girls are not east Asian guys. I am omitting high surgeries girls from this comment, because of my known bias against them. Times are tough for us Farangs. In Thermae, the best girls to my taste show no interest in me, generally, and I show no interest in the lower standard 70 to 80% of them. The place is not well suited to me. A really hot girl who prefers Farangs is just not that likely to be there any more. Yes there maybe girls who take both equally well. All my favourite bargirls seem to prefer Farangs, and are appreciated more so by non-Japanese though.
This is not the place to find guys posting brag pics of girls they managed to fuck unless they are hookers, and even then face pics are not so likely. Still you can post your pics if you want.
Yes we will never know mostly if guys are fucking hags or beauties, however there is a shortage of good lookers in the Photo gallery, generally, such that I don't even open those threads normally.I really just asked because I was genuinely curious. Not trying to put anybody down or anything? To each their own.
More so just to gauge perspective. While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there is still a level of objectivity when it comes to measuring beauty.
With there being so many opinions, age ranges / generations on this board, I just don't think it would hurt to at least try and standardize what girls can qualify as stunners hot cute average, etc.
Would be beneficial for new members when referencing tips / suggestions on how to get each type of girl.
Agreed on the photo gallery. No offense intended, but you wouldn't be able to pay me to fuck most of those girls. But again, there is a huge range of age, standards, etc. on this board.
You'll never find me bashing a dude because I don't like the hooker he banged lol. Whatever floats your boat.. as long as you're happy.
Hotspot through your phone so no need for more than wifi on the tablet. Even a kindle will work. Get a keyboard that doubles as a hard case to protect the tablet screen.
Thanks for the responses. I am thinking about the cheap tablet option, plenty here for less then $100 AUD.
Rob.Happens more often than you would image. Some of the stories I hear is that the guy only pays partial. 50-70%. It just makes it harder for the next guy but plenty of girls out there. Think the advice for the girl is to accept per diem payments. As for mail, many different types will send letters to the home front. Don't give out your home address. Pointless if you are doing your housekeeper like many guys I know.
Over the last few days I've been talking to my favorite ThaiFriendly girl about one of her girlfriends. The girlfriend just finished a 28 day vacation with a married farang who promised to give her 30,000 baht at the end of the vacation. In the end, the farang said they spent too much money and he didn't have anything to give her. Of course, the girl stopped her normal job to take this trip so she doesn't get her normal income. This girl is now back in Isaan without the ability to make her payments for rent, car, phone, and electricity. She doesn't even have money to buy food for herself and her children.
She has a copy of the farang's driver's license and is talking about sending letters and intimate selfies in the mail addressed to his wife.
I don't know how much of this is true, but, I know it has happened in the past. In fact, an unmarried friend of mine did something similar to a girl after a 3-week trip. Eventually my friend sent money via Western Union, but it wasn't without a fight.
Just out of curiosity, do you guys mind posting some pics of the girls you're pulling freebies with?
Wondering what type of girl you guys are thinking ofBingo. In my opinion, a story without a photo tells us quite little. I always assume the worst looking scrag possible if they don't share a photo. Unfortunately, sharing photos is not popular on this site like it was 10 years ago. I'm not sure why it changed. I have also stopped sharing photos simply because almost nobody else does anymore, and if I do share a photo these days, the result is that my inbox gets bombarded with PMs asking for contact information from guys I've never even heard of before. In the past, I would share photos and others would also share theirs, then we would swap numbers.
Mr Enternational
12-04-18, 18:20
Getting chicks is part game and part luck. You really don't just set out to do it as you have said you will do. You just fall into situations that lead you to that. It is best to start off with no expections, read the signals, and swing accordingly at the balls that are thrown to you.There is a restaurant that we like to go to in the LK Metro area. Over a year ago Cool showed me a chick's facebook and the pictures were like wow. I said who the hell is that? He said it is the waitress. I said no way dude. So I haven't seen her in the restaurant in a long time, probably since that day.
Yesterday I was trolling Tinder and saw her so I clicked the like. She clicked the like back and we started talking. It was after midnight. I tried to get her to come over but she wouldn't. I'm spitting all kind of game. She said I have a boyfriend and I am not trying to do him like that. I said he is not my homeboy so what's up? But she refused. So some other broad ended up coming over.
I wake up today and the waitress sent me a message apologizing that she fell asleep and just woke up. She said she was about to get ready and go eat. I said me too and asked if she wanted to go together. She said sure. I told her that I had to go bowling after and that she could tag along if she liked.
So she came over and we head to Tequila Reef. Left there and went bowling. Left there and went to Central Festival for dessert. Then we went back to my place. She put her helmet inside her bike signaling that she would come in.
We watched a bunch of cartoons that I had downloaded. Big Mouth, Duck Tales, The Simpsons, and Family Guy. Then she asked for a towel and went to the bathroom and came out wearing just the towel. I said what is your boyfriend going to say? She said nothing because you don't know him remember? Now she is next to me asleep.
Bingo. In my opinion, a story without a photo tells us quite little. I always assume the worst looking scrag possible if they don't share a photo. Unfortunately, sharing photos is not popular on this site like it was 10 years ago. I'm not sure why it changed. I have also stopped sharing photos simply because almost nobody else does anymore, and if I do share a photo these days, the result is that my inbox gets bombarded with PMs asking for contact information from guys I've never even heard of before. In the past, I would share photos and others would also share theirs, then we would swap numbers.Same thing after my May trip. One girl was actually hurt by a guy I gave her contact detail to so I am very hesitant.
I really just asked because I was genuinely curious. Not trying to put anybody down or anything? To each their own.
More so just to gauge perspective. While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there is still a level of objectivity when it comes to measuring beauty.
With there being so many opinions, age ranges / generations on this board, I just don't think it would hurt to at least try and standardize what girls can qualify as stunners hot cute average, etc.
Would be beneficial for new members when referencing tips / suggestions on how to get each type of girl.
Agreed on the photo gallery. No offense intended, but you wouldn't be able to pay me to fuck most of those girls. But again, there is a huge range of age, standards, etc. on this board.
You'll never find me bashing a dude because I don't like the hooker he banged lol. Whatever floats your boat.. as long as you're happy.You have nailed it. We all have different goals to achieve and they vary from punter to punter. Some guys have to be seen with the hottest girls in town and others are happy to go with plain Janes. Some guys have bigger budgets. The important thing is that every one enjoys themselves and goes home happy.
Woah woah woah settle down big boy. No need to get your tits twisted. Where did I judge? I'm just asking a question since beauty is subjective.
My idea of a 10 could be an 8 in your eyes. Your idea of a 10 could be a 4 in my eyes. (w / the latter probably being more likely haha).
Just teasing. But perhaps take a second to stop being so focused on measuring your epeen with other old dudes on a mongering forum & relax huh?A 10 is great but if she is a dud in the bedroom is she still a 10? When parading thru Walking Street with a 10 your ego is inflated but in reality if she doesn't perform is it worth it? Apart from FL Hawk every poster here seems to forget about their dud fucks and quickly sweep them under the carpet but I can guarantee you most of those dud fucks are in the stratosphere you call a 10. And to be honest I don't really care who rates the girl / s I go with because I have seen something I like in them and unless someone else is paying them it shouldn't be of any concern to them.
On a side note please don't take my post too seriously as I don't and I am not that concerned about opinions of people I don't know so nothing taken personally here.
Anyone can answer or respond to this, this relates to the comment of showing proof that you are clear of STDs. Question is simple, I was under the impression that is you took a test in Thailand that showed that you aren't clean that you could be refused entry. Am I off base? Is there not a risk where you are living in Thailand and tests show that you are say hiv positive. Would taking such tests not risk your ability to live in Thailand?
On one hand you want to know if you caught something, on the other hand you have to wonder if taking the test in Thailand they are reporting on those who have something serious. Are you risking your retirement by taking this type of test where you live?
It's a funny thing about photos. They often mislead more than inform. Our phones are chock full of photos of our friends and ourselves with big grins on our faces pointing to the monument, the theme park ride or whatever and it is clear the intent was to suggest that level of happiness permeated the whole day's adventure. What a great time we all had! In reality the only times a big grin was plastered on our face was for the two seconds it took to get through those damn photo shoots.
Girls who look like stone fox 10s in photos come across as no more than above average in person. Girls whose photos elicit grimaces of disapproval from my friends turn those same guys into fawning puppies when they meet her in person. I told you, dude.
And our relationship to the photos we and others display goes goofy. We say we don't care what others think, but we do. We say we wouldn't judge, but we do. We just can't help ourselves I suppose.
Phazze93 seems like a good guy and I am sure he means well and means what he says as often if not more than anyone. But, Phazze, didn't you notice that almost every sentiment expressed in this post regarding photos of the girls contradicts the previous one? You conclude by bashing virtually everyone who posted a photo of their latest conquest in the photo gallery yet we'll never catch you bashing a dude on that issue? Good thing no offense was intended though. LOL. Again, we ALL are like that with regard to photos. Photos have an undue almost magical effect on us sometimes.
I really just asked because I was genuinely curious. Not trying to put anybody down or anything? To each their own.
More so just to gauge perspective. While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there is still a level of objectivity when it comes to measuring beauty.
With there being so many opinions, age ranges / generations on this board, I just don't think it would hurt to at least try and standardize what girls can qualify as stunners hot cute average, etc.
Would be beneficial for new members when referencing tips / suggestions on how to get each type of girl.
Agreed on the photo gallery. No offense intended, but you wouldn't be able to pay me to fuck most of those girls. But again, there is a huge range of age, standards, etc. on this board.
You'll never find me bashing a dude because I don't like the hooker he banged lol. Whatever floats your boat.. as long as you're happy.I'm not even sure what the point is in displaying a trophy photo of a girl we banged. To make others jealous? To elicit their approval? To squeeze out a bit more pleasure from the experience by showing her off in public? I usually feel I have had so much pleasure with the girl already, I not only do not need to squeeze out any more later, but fiddling with the experience any further by posting her photo online can only add a negative effect to it. I can't think of any reason it might improve it. Maybe her finding out will upset her or change how she is with me next time, if there is a next time. Who knows.
I am generally fine and even happy to share photos of my conquests or girlfriends with guys I know more personally on Line or on my phone if we are sitting next to each other. But even then I wonder if there is enough benefit to it vs potential downside. One very good friend of mine looks at a pic of one of my girls and says, "Oh, she isn't as good looking as your other girl, so-and-so." Hey, dude, who asked for your opinion? Actually, I kind of did by showing him her photo. But what happened to plain old, "Nice. She looks great!" to any photo I show you? LOL. Now I've got this idiot's somewhat unsolicited opinion rolling around in my head whenever the three of us are together and I start to wonder if maybe I should be with so-and-so more often than this one. But I like this one much better!
Works just as stupidly the other way. Some guy looks at a photo of me with a particular girl and he says, "Man, what a great photo. She is beautiful and you two look perfect together!" Meanwhile, I was just thinking about dropping this one from the roster out of pure boredom. Now I start to reconsider and wind up having two additional boring sessions with her I would have enjoyed much more with the one whose pic that dude grimaced over before. LOL.
Photos more often than not don't really tell others much of anything very important. But they do give them a chance to express unsolicited and all too often unwelcome and unhelpful opinions about this body part or that one. I do the same thing. I suppose it is useful if it is a photo of our girl sitting on our best friend's lap and sticking her tongue in his ear or of the girl we are warning others stole our tablet during last night's session.
Anyone can answer or respond to this, this relates to the comment of showing proof that you are clear of STDs. Question is simple, I was under the impression that is you took a test in Thailand that showed that you aren't clean that you could be refused entry. Am I off base? Is there not a risk where you are living in Thailand and tests show that you are say hiv positive. Would taking such tests not risk your ability to live in Thailand?
On one hand you want to know if you caught something, on the other hand you have to wonder if taking the test in Thailand they are reporting on those who have something serious. Are you risking your retirement by taking this type of test where you live?I think the idea is to screen out or deny entry for people who have a somewhat casually "contagious" type of disease. In that regard, HIV (as one example) is not one of them. It isn't like you can give it to someone else by coughing in their face on the skytrain. When I applied for my first retirement visa at the Thai Consulate back in the USA, I had to provide a letter from my doctor showing that I'd been tested for this and that disease and was all clear. HIV was definitely not one of them and, as I recall, neither was any other sexually transmitted disease. However, that was about 7 years ago. Maybe requirements have changed since then.
Subsequent annual visa extensions do not require me to provide a doctor's letter. So, again, that suggests nothing revealed in a medical check up, no matter how serious, is a reason for them to search you out and deport you.
I don't know what happens if your test at, say, Thai Red Cross, comes up positive for something serious while they probably have your name, passport number and phone number on file. I have never heard of someone being kicked out because of something found in one of those tests. Not saying it can't or doesn't happen though.
It's a funny thing about photos.
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Girls who look like stone fox 10s in photos come across as no more than above average in person. Girls whose photos elicit grimaces of disapproval from my friends turn those same guys into fawning puppies when they meet her in person. I told you, dude.....This may be true of Tinder style pics but a mommy body will usually come across as a mommy body on a full body pic. The photo galleries on this forum are meant to make the forum more attractive to prospective new customers so I don't like to critisize. I also do not want to hurt the posters' feelings. Who am I to critisize since I very rarely post any pics myself. But were I to speak my mind it would often be "don't tell me you flew half way round the world for that!"
I'm not even speaking of the series of close-ups of genitalia. They have the same effect on me as pages from a veterinary manual.
It's a funny thing about photos. They often mislead more than inform. I do believe that more often than not, a photo taken by your own phone when you are with the girl most often does tell the story. I do agree that sometimes girls simply aren't photogenic and look much better in real life than in the photo, but most times a real life photo does give a very good indication of what a girl looks like. Glamour shots, photoshopped pics, and pics using filters are worthless. Unfortunately, most of these girls use those edited photos as their social media profile pics.
Unfortunately, most of these girls use those edited photos as their social media profile pics.Yes. And some of these girls are brilliant masters at knowing exactly how to turn their head and body this way or that to make themselves look even better than they do in person!
I met a 30ish year old woman on a dating site whose face looked quite lovely. Very attractive. I showed other guys her pic and they all expressed the same, "Man, I'd tap that any time" sentiment. Terrific smile. And her body looked pretty good too.
In person, she turned out to be one of the ugliest women I have ever sat across a coffee shop table from or seen in public. No exaggeration. It wasn't because she had used old photos of her back when she looked good. It is hard to imagine that woman ever looking good. It was because she knew exactly the right angle to make it appear she had lovely, even and appealing features, those "standards of beauty" that one can argue do exist in the world.
How do I know that? Because she took a selfie of the two of us together at the coffee shop and sent it to my Line account. So it was a totally current photo with no clever lighting or photoshop tricks. I looked the same as I looked in the mirror that day. But she looked just as fine and doable as she looked in every other photo I ever saw of her on her dating site profile and Line account! That is when I noticed that she held her head and smiled in exactly the same way in every photo, including our selfie. Brilliant. She knew how to make herself look "Camera Beautiful" and put her face and body in that position for every photo.
Her Line account Timeline is full of hearts in the eyes love stickers from a dozen or more guys who apparently have only seen her pics and chatted with her on the dating site and on Line but never met her in person.
Mr Enternational
12-05-18, 04:24
I'm not even sure what the point is in displaying a trophy photo of a girl we banged. To make others jealous? To elicit their approval? To squeeze out a bit more pleasure from the experience by showing her off in public? I usually feel I have had so much pleasure with the girl already, I not only do not need to squeeze out any more later, but fiddling with the experience any further by posting her photo online can only add a negative effect to it.Great post. I was in Cuba with my dad. He had his cell phone in the safe and told me to use mine to take pictures of his girl so he could brag to his friends.
Mr Enternational
12-05-18, 04:28
In person, she turned out to be one of the ugliest women I have ever sat across a coffee shop table from or seen in public. No exaggeration. It wasn't because she had used old photos of her back when she looked good. It is hard to imagine that woman ever looking good. It was because she knew exactly the right angle to make it appear she had lovely, even and appealing features, those "standards of beauty" that one can argue do exist in the world.LOL. Yeah it happens. That is why I have to see a normal picture that someone else took at a distance. Not that closeup shit full of flowers and stars and app magic (that I call witchcraft.).
I'm not even sure what the point is in displaying a trophy photo of a girl we banged. To make others jealous? To elicit their approval? To squeeze out a bit more pleasure from the experience by showing her off in public? I just like to look at girls, so I enjoy the photos.
You have nailed it. We all have different goals to achieve and they vary from punter to punter. Some guys have to be seen with the hottest girls in town and others are happy to go with plain Janes. Some guys have bigger budgets. The important thing is that every one enjoys themselves and goes home happy.Post of the year. Here in Bangkok, I am content with finding a pleasing to my eye one who I can wham bam as cheaply and efficiently as possible. If I want GFE / PSE with a supermodel I'll wait till I get home to my GF.
A 10 is great but if she is a dud in the bedroom is she still a 10? When parading thru Walking Street with a 10 your ego is inflated but in reality if she doesn't perform is it worth it? Apart from FL Hawk every poster here seems to forget about their dud fucks and quickly sweep them under the carpet but I can guarantee you most of those dud fucks are in the stratosphere you call a 10. And to be honest I don't really care who rates the girl / s I go with because I have seen something I like in them and unless someone else is paying them it shouldn't be of any concern to them.
On a side note please don't take my post too seriously as I don't and I am not that concerned about opinions of people I don't know so nothing taken personally here.Ofc, 10 that sucks in bed is essentially un-rated. But in fairness, as much as I have been saying 10's 10's 10's. I didn't actually find any 10's during my trip haha.
The one palace girl I took multiple times was a 9 on stage in terms of looks and an 8. 5 outside the club in terms of looks & an 7. 5-8 in terms of performance. Numbers I'm ok with considering how difficult it is to find true 10's.
Phazze93 seems like a good guy and I am sure he means well and means what he says as often if not more than anyone. But, Phazze, didn't you notice that almost every sentiment expressed in this post regarding photos of the girls contradicts the previous one? You conclude by bashing virtually everyone who posted a photo of their latest conquest in the photo gallery yet we'll never catch you bashing a dude on that issue? Good thing no offense was intended though. LOL. Again, we ALL are like that with regard to photos. Photos have an undue almost magical effect on us sometimes.
LOL I was serious with the no offense part.
Its just a range of standards. I won't bash as in. Even if I don't agree with your taste, I won't bash you for having a good time & if that is what you like.
Again, whatever makes you happy. You do you.
I just like to look at girls, so I enjoy the photos.Preach.
Rather see a lot of photos than none at all.
Post of the year. Here in Bangkok, I am content with finding a pleasing to my eye one who I can wham bam as cheaply and efficiently as possible. If I want GFE / PSE with a supermodel I'll wait till I get home to my GF.Thanks dude. I didn't know my wife and your GF are identical twins LOL.
LOL. Yeah it happens. That is why I have to see a normal picture that someone else took at a distance. Not that closeup shit full of flowers and stars and app magic (that I call witchcraft.).That lady was a turning point in my dating site methods a couple of years ago. From that experience forward, one of the first things I do after we move from the dating site email chat to our Line accounts is to casually ask if she is ok to video chat for one minute now "just to say Hello". If she says no due to being at work or having company but without stating a more specific time when she can do it then I am very hesitant to bother chatting much further. She likely doesn't look anything like her photos and knows as soon as the guy sees her on video the fun and flirty exchanges come to a screeching halt. It also means she will likely never be available to meet in person either. She is a waste of my time.
My other early take away from that experience was to be wary whenever the girl displays several pics where she is posed (particularly facially) in exactly the same angle with exactly the same expression or smile on her face. That has been carefully practiced and experimented with to hide as many weird flaws as possible.
Another thing to be wary of, although that was not the problem here, is a girl who looks pretty good, displays many photos of her smiling, but none where her smile shows teeth.
Strangely enough, I have had very good experiences with some girls who at first displayed no photos at all on the dating site. They just clicked interested in me. Usually, I will ignore the no photo contact on those sites. But sometimes I reply politely and go with it a while. I can't exactly explain why. Maybe all the other things listed are favorable; her location is very near where I live, her age, her height and weight description, no kids, only looking for Romance/Dating, she says something in the email message that is intriguing, whatever. But 3-4 times it has turned out when we move to our Line accounts, the girl is good looking, we meet and we have a great time in bed. They just didn't like the kind of attention and comments they were getting when they posted their photos so they deleted them.
Thanks dude. I didn't know my wife and your GF are identical twins LOL.Are they both named Beulah?
Are they both named Beulah?That is definitely mine LOL.
A 10 is great but if she is a dud in the bedroom is she still a 10? When parading thru Walking Street with a 10 your ego is inflated but in reality if she doesn't perform is it worth it? Apart from FL Hawk every poster here seems to forget about their dud fucks and quickly sweep them under the carpet but I can guarantee you most of those dud fucks are in the stratosphere you call a 10. And to be honest I don't really care who rates the girl / s I go with because I have seen something I like in them and unless someone else is paying them it shouldn't be of any concern to them.
On a side note please don't take my post too seriously as I don't and I am not that concerned about opinions of people I don't know so nothing taken personally here.Without taking you too seriously, like are there any 10's on Walking street? This ego about parading on some street is a big mystery to me. Some of us don't wish to be seen by others we know. We take a good looking girl for our own enjoyment, anonymously. Most girls tried, we don't even have pics of. They can be forgotten quickly, particularly if were a dud and not repeated. The risk of forgetting duds quickly, is the possibility to accidently pick the same girl again after a few months or years.
I have reported plenty of dud fucks (although not in Pattaya Thread), as I am perhaps not as easily satisfied by a girl as when I was younger, and I appeal to the young girls less. The one thing that keeps my dud fuck reports down, is reluctance to try a new girl, without being very certain I cannot do without her. Repeats reduces dud fucks a hell of a lot. A great fuck is not going to be boring me in a big hurry especially if is good looking or has a hot body. As you may expect, I don't look at nasty ugly porn, only pretty porn, stunning girls, even some of them are somewhat similar in looks to my regular girls (but non Asian variations). I repeat one girl who is not a GFE really, rather passive, but not restrictive, purely because her body is a 9 and her face is 7. 5. She even allows tongue kissing but is just somewhat shy and passive about it.
I have zero interest to fuck ugly girls regardless of their cost or skills, or special services. Looks are important for some of us, but there has to be a compromise. Once one has had one or more well above average looking girlfriends, possibly with a great body, it becomes hard to drop the standards down to a much inferior looking girl. This has to make obvious sense. My GF was still very hot for me at 38 YO. I know some guys really don't care what a girls face looks like, but that is not all of us.
Rating schemes for a girl should be completely separate for her face, for her body, for her PSE skills, her GFE level and enthusiasm. No point to say a girl is not a 10 because she was a dud fuck. If her body is a 10 it remains a 10. Could be she just did not have any chemistry with the guy and was a dud fuck, but still capable of being great for a different guy.
Please keeps looks rating and performance ratings completely separate. There is probably no correlation between the two and some claim an anti-correlation, due to stunning girls being too lazy to provide good service, or just don't care. However I find that even stunning girls can be horny and them having an orgasm is possible if can get them in the mood, and some girls seem to enjoy even without a cum.
I know many guys don't care about girls having fun, just want to pay money for a service, however I am more of a doer than a receiver, so not many girls I kept repeating who did not appear to be getting any fun (unless they are just so hot I cannot give them up). I don't repeat any girls who resist DATY, for fear of being stimulated perhaps.
Some of us missed out on experiencing sex with a lot of young pretty girls when we were 18 to 30 (collected a GF/wife mistake too soon), so maybe in mongering we try to make up for lost youth. What is the point to pay a lot for ordinary to ugly girls? O.K. if very cheap or free I guess. O.K. if better than a wank.
Without taking you too seriously, like are there any 10's on Walking street? This ego about parading on some street is a big mystery to me. Some of us don't wish to be seen by others we know. We take a good looking girl for our own enjoyment, anonymously. Most girls tried, we don't even have pics of. They can be forgotten quickly, particularly if were a dud and not repeated. The risk of forgetting duds quickly, is the possibility to accidently pick the same girl again after a few months or years.
I have reported plenty of dud fucks (although not in Pattaya Thread), as I am perhaps not as easily satisfied by a girl as when I was younger, and I appeal to the young girls less. The one thing that keeps my dud fuck reports down, is reluctance to try a new girl, without being very certain I cannot do without her. Repeats reduces dud fucks a hell of a lot. A great fuck is not going to be boring me in a big hurry especially if is good looking or has a hot body. As you may expect, I don't look at nasty ugly porn, only pretty porn, stunning girls, even some of them are somewhat similar in looks to my regular girls (but non Asian variations). I repeat one girl who is not a GFE really, rather passive, but not restrictive, purely because her body is a 9 and her face is 7. 5. She even allows tongue kissing but is just somewhat shy and passive about it.
I have zero interest to fuck ugly girls regardless of their cost or skills, or special services. Looks are important for some of us, but there has to be a compromise. Once one has had one or more well above average looking girlfriends, possibly with a great body, it becomes hard to drop the standards down to a much inferior looking girl. This has to make obvious sense. My GF was still very hot for me at 38 YO. I know some guys really don't care what a girls face looks like, but that is not all of us.
Rating schemes for a girl should be completely separate for her face, for her body, for her PSE skills, her GFE level and enthusiasm. No point to say a girl is not a 10 because she was a dud fuck. If her body is a 10 it remains a 10. Could be she just did not have any chemistry with the guy and was a dud fuck, but still capable of being great for a different guy.
Please keeps looks rating and performance ratings completely separate. There is probably no correlation between the two and some claim an anti-correlation, due to stunning girls being too lazy to provide good service, or just don't care. However I find that even stunning girls can be horny and them having an orgasm is possible if can get them in the mood, and some girls seem to enjoy even without a cum.
I know many guys don't care about girls having fun, just want to pay money for a service, however I am more of a doer than a receiver, so not many girls I kept repeating who did not appear to be getting any fun (unless they are just so hot I cannot give them up). I don't repeat any girls who resist DATY, for fear of being stimulated perhaps.
Some of us missed out on experiencing sex with a lot of young pretty girls when we were 18 to 30 (collected a GF/wife mistake too soon), so maybe in mongering we try to make up for lost youth. What is the point to pay a lot for ordinary to ugly girls? O.K. if very cheap or free I guess. O.K. if better than a wank.The whole 10 is not to be taken seriously. It seems like a form of bullying to a degree that some guys use to boost their already inflated egos. I personally target the slightly above average girls who give the vibe of giving a good time. If I was collecting trophies I would be more inclined to have their heads on walls. LOL.
I can have fun with in bed with a "frigid" stunner who only sees me as a john but alas not with a mommy body MILF who worships the ground I stand on. Had I been born 20 years later I would have been perfectly happy fucking the sexbots that will come on the market 15 years from now. I guess I am also a good client for girls who are not at all into their clients because I don't insist on special blowjobs or tongue kissing etc. Ninety percent of the sex is doggy-style. This enables the girl to not look at me and switch off (especially since my cock is probably better than my looks), maybe fantasizing she is being fucked by her loverboy. This may be why I have been well-accepted by many top-girls in German FKKs despite my not being a big spender.
I can be mightily aroused by a good faker, even if her faking is gross. I pretend to be taken in by the faking so in the end it is she who is being taken for a ride, not I.
As I age and become uglier, my standards of female attractiveness do not go down an inch, that's for sure.
Well it had to arrive eventually, but I was hoping for another few years.
Taking a final short-cut through Soi Cowboy coming from the BTS to my hotel to do a bit of perving, sorry, research for the site I had only stepped a few meters into the soi and I hear the call.
'Papa, welcome'. (My Translation: Hey grandad, come in here and look at all the nubiles).
Now, not very good advertising in my mind. I know the cultural differences play a part here and respect for elders is inbuilt in Asian communities, but it hurt my sensibilities nevertheless. Anyway, brave face and onward.
Plenty of young, slim, fit looking girls on the soi at 9. 30 PM that evening. Oh yeah with plenty of camel-toe on view too. Now that's good advertising.
{SNIP}Rating schemes for a girl should be completely separate for her face, for her body, for her PSE skills, her GFE level and enthusiasm. No point to say a girl is not a 10 because she was a dud fuck. If her body is a 10 it remains a 10. Could be she just did not have any chemistry with the guy and was a dud fuck, but still capable of being great for a different guy.{SNIP}.MY own "scale" goes from 0 to 4.
0 is a woman you would not FKK.
1 is a woman that you would.
2 is a woman that you would DATY then FKK.
3 is a woman that you would FKK (BB) then DATY.
4 is a woman that you'd DATY after your buddy FKK'ed her (BB).
I have met a few 3's. But no 4's.
Banana Boi
12-07-18, 17:01
0 is a woman you would not FKK..I'm not sure if you know what FKK means. FKK is the German abbreviation for "Freie Krper Kultur". This means nudist or something like that. FKK in terms of mongering refers to the many FKK clubs / sauna club where sex is available with knockout women for 100 euro per hour in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, etc.
Thanks dude. I didn't know my wife and your GF are identical twins LOL.Great taste, guys.
Great taste, guys.The love of my life LOL.
Blanquiceleste
12-08-18, 06:11
The whole 10 is not to be taken seriously. It seems like a form of bullying to a degree that some guys use to boost their already inflated egos. I personally target the slightly above average girls who give the vibe of giving a good time. If I was collecting trophies I would be more inclined to have their heads on walls. LOL.A 10 girl is a myth. The minute she talks to me, she becomes a 9. That is just me.
Great taste, guys.These twins look like the two oldest prostitutes in Amsterdam (also twins) LOL.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1601577/these-twin-grandmothers-have-slept-with-an-eye-watering-355000-men-between-them
FKK is the German abbreviation for "Freie Krper Kultur". This means nudist or something like that. Freikörperkultur. Literally translated: free body culture.
A 10 girl is a myth. The minute she talks to me, she becomes a 9. That is just me.I know I mentioned 10's in multiple posts. But I think I did clarify. I never actually found a 10 in thailand yet.
Highest I've found has been a 9 WHILE she's on stage, 8. 5 after she gets dressed, 8 in bed. Thats the best I've had. If you've really got true taste for 10's, you won't find any amongst working girls. A 10 most likely knows they're a 10 in terms of looks. And wouldn't need to fuck dudes for a living.
A 10 girl is a myth. The minute she talks to me, she becomes a 9. That is just me.My GF at home is a 10 plus for Instagram model looks, a 10 plus for performance, a 10 plus for brains, a 10 plus for having a trust fund and a 10 plus for being under 25. That's a 50 plus.
She loses 10 points for leaving my heart in my throat when she punches the accelerator on her M5, 10 points for yelling at other drivers, 10 points for being obsessive about her looks, 10 points for being a know it all, 10 points for making an old man like me perform constantly, 10 points for not being able to cook, 10 points for narcissism, 10 points for bossiness and 10 points for being a Princess. -90.
Thus, she is a minus 40.
Now a skinny pretty woman with no gag reflex who doesn't speak English and charges by the minute. That's a 10. If her daddy owns a liquor store, and she can cook, Ill marry her.
Blanquiceleste
12-08-18, 09:26
I know I mentioned 10's in multiple posts. But I think I did clarify. I never actually found a 10 in thailand yet.
Highest I've found has been a 9 WHILE she's on stage, 8. 5 after she gets dressed, 8 in bed. Thats the best I've had. If you've really got true taste for 10's, you won't find any amongst working girls. A 10 most likely knows they're a 10 in terms of looks. And wouldn't need to fuck dudes for a living.Excellent point.
However, I would suggest you take a trip to The Pimp at least once. Blow that 25 K baht in one night and you will see a few on-stage 10's.
https://www.instagram.com/nnimiko/
A sample. There are pics of her workmates too. I am sure there will be many here who will not agree this girl is top notch, that is why its said "beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder".
I know I mentioned 10's in multiple posts. But I think I did clarify. I never actually found a 10 in thailand yet.I think 10's don't exist. There's not a single woman on the face of the earth who is 100% perfect in every aspect.
PedroMorales
12-08-18, 11:04
I know I mentioned 10's in multiple posts. But I think I did clarify. I never actually found a 10 in thailand yet.
Highest I've found has been a 9 WHILE she's on stage, 8. 5 after she gets dressed, 8 in bed. Thats the best I've had. If you've really got true taste for 10's, you won't find any amongst working girls. A 10 most likely knows they're a 10 in terms of looks. And wouldn't need to fuck dudes for a living.Just go to Bumrumgrad Hospital's Plastic Surgery section and find the babews with the very rich sugar daddies. Of course, you would need game for that.
I think 10's don't exist. There's not a single woman on the face of the earth who is 100% perfect in every aspect.Maybe Ivanka Trump.
Excellent point.
However, I would suggest you take a trip to The Pimp at least once. Blow that 25 K baht in one night and you will see a few on-stage 10's.
https://www.instagram.com/nnimiko/
A sample. There are pics of her workmates too. I am sure there will be many here who will not agree this girl is top notch, that is why its said "beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder".She's attractive, tall & slim. But for me she's not a 10. Closer to a 8. 5-9? Her face is more cute than sexy (rounder). Nice body though.
The last stunner I found in bkk was probably an 8? Similar in figure, but had sharper features, particularly her face which was nice. If it weren't for her mediocre fake tits & a few tacky tattoos, she would have been a 8. 5-9.
Never been to The Pimp, but I'm not sure if I'm ready to drop 25 k for a girl lol. What would be the terms of 25 k? 30 min? Haha.
Just go to Bumrumgrad Hospital's Plastic Surgery section and find the babews with the very rich sugar daddies. Of course, you would need game for that.LOL. Thats funny
Robert Long
12-09-18, 07:34
She's attractive, tall & slim. But for me she's not a 10. Closer to a 8. 5-9? Her face is more cute than sexy (rounder). Nice body though.
The last stunner I found in bkk was probably an 8? Similar in figure, but had sharper features, particularly her face which was nice. If it weren't for her mediocre fake tits & a few tacky tattoos, she would have been a 8. 5-9.
Never been to The Pimp, but I'm not sure if I'm ready to drop 25 k for a girl lol. What would be the terms of 25 k? 30 min? Haha.
LOL. Thats funnyThis discussion show how diverse the attraction we have for women. I completely disagree with any thin frail soft model type. And Smoothy, Ivanka Trump? Maybe 20 years ago. I personally like the athletic type with some body that looks healthy. Has a little strength and shape. Ie: a volleyball player or ladies football. I guess it's where your from and your background. Every man has his own taste in women.
RL.
Maybe Ivanka Trump.She gets 2 penalty points because of her daddy LOL.
Excellent point.
However, I would suggest you take a trip to The Pimp at least once. Blow that 25 K baht in one night and you will see a few on-stage 10's.
https://www.instagram.com/nnimiko/
A sample. There are pics of her workmates too. I am sure there will be many here who will not agree this girl is top notch, that is why its said "beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder".For faces, they look pretty good to me. Far above average. Yes some 9's. For bodies, I see quite a lot of disaster area boobies of rather ugly shapes. I would be just as happy in Billboard most likely with the skinny natural girls, although average face standard would be lower overall. Maybe can find about 3 girls in Billboard I would classify as really pretty, but enough if I can get to them. Then depends if they like me or not.
Yes each to their own. I really hate over exaggerated surgeries. Just my desire for the real natural shape and not rock hard coconuts. A good more subtle tit job, yes I can do it. Guys that are big boob crazed (regardless of shape) may see things completely different to me.
I might prefer to blow 3K, 8 times, or 2.5K, 10 times (etc.) over 25k just once, with no guarantee I am going to gel with the girl or get a great fuck, or I just don't appeal to her in any way whatsoever. However I have nothing against those that want to go with an such an expense. There is such a thing as value for money for me. You can tell I never drove a really expensive car, right?
Most of us probably know a hot young pretty thing for 3k or a lot less maybe, right, that performs good enough and is so enjoyable as to do regularly? So as a person who does not get bored with a superior girl so easily, I would do her 8 times, or even overnight bookings, rather than take a chance on one girl. The "Pimp" girl's face might be only 20% better, so to pay many times the cost, does not seem worth it, given I don't have a limitless budget. The Pimp is obviously there for rich guys that can afford it. That is not me any more. I hate the gamble and possible wastage of a large amount.
I already use/waste significant amounts on dependents.
Yes I have a skinny pretty girl with smallish tits, an exquisite fuck. Comes from a super poor family with nothing, needs money badly but has a very reasonable cost. Even if zero English, no problem. I would rather collect these types of girls, and do them very often, rotate them for variety, perhaps with another with big naturals, or alternate between shy girl and wild girl, whatever. LOL
On a tangent, I find Ivanka Trump to be about an 8 to 8.5 for the face, so well above average, not quite perfection.
In the end, most of us just have to weigh up what a girl offers compared to her price (money and time), and decide our preference or priority sequences.
Maybe I am wrong to assume the purpose of the girl is for sex only. However I am not much more complex than that when mongering, maybe a small amount of boozing if in the mood after the sex.
Member #4591
12-09-18, 13:03
My GF at home is a 10 plus for Instagram model looks, a 10 plus for performance, a 10 plus for brains, a 10 plus for having a trust fund and a 10 plus for being under 25. That's a 50 plus.
She loses 10 points for leaving my heart in my throat when she punches the accelerator on her M5, 10 points for yelling at other drivers, 10 points for being obsessive about her looks, 10 points for being a know it all, 10 points for making an old man like me perform constantly, 10 points for not being able to cook, 10 points for narcissism, 10 points for bossiness and 10 points for being a Princess. -90.
Thus, she is a minus 40.
Now a skinny pretty woman with no gag reflex who doesn't speak English and charges by the minute. That's a 10. If her daddy owns a liquor store, and she can cook, Ill marry her.Wow. What are you doing posting and mongering amongst us low lifes if you have such a gem 10/10 on your hands LOL.
Wow. What are you doing posting and mongering amongst us low lifes if you have such a gem 10/10 on your hands LOL.Well I'm here and she's there. Plus she's a minus, remember.
She gets 2 penalty points because of her daddy LOL.Ya, I hate it when girls have a billionaire father.
Part 2 or Part "Deus".
Honestly, after reading some of these thoughtless discussion about BBFS+CIP, whether game is needed (for the 100th time), and advice on trophy girls in the top Go Go bars (from so called sexperts who don't even step foot inside of them), Monkeypaw is really tempted to immediately instill some useful knowledge to the minds of the mindless. Because for one, it's the Monkeypaw thing to do, correct those who need correction. Part 3 The Rat.
This is a continuation of the above report. Sorry it's taken me awhile to finish up, but been I've bit busy sleeping and stuff, well that's until I saw that we've reached #666 for this thread. Then like clockwork, my inner spirit kicks in to fulfill my duty to root out you know what. Something about that number that triggers something inside of me. Guess it is because of who I am and what I was created for. Anyways, let's finish up reporting on my last two weeks in Pattaya, hanging out with FL Hawk, Banana Boi, Lew Ashby, Dart13, and some other guys not a part of this board. So in case you were wondering, it's a "fucking hell yeah," that Monkeypaw is able to come down from wherever, and possibly blend in with you folks. I think I do a good enough job of pretending to live amongst the common folk, just like Clark Kent sort of. But like everybody has always mentioned, there's something different about the Paw and the way the girls treat him. If I told you the actual 100% truth, you'the be either in great awe or in great fear, "if" you believed it was true. I'm glad to see that some off you folks have decided to waive the white flag with the Paw, while a few still try to sneak in a little something now and then. Yep, I take notice to that shit. I enjoy watching you dig yourself a little deeper and deeper until the rain comes, then you'll drown yourselves in all that bullshit. Nonsense that you write about. Until then, keep following my posts, because I know you do, whether you want to admit it or not. Like I mentioned before, when ISG had its glitch in the system that allowed us to see how many number of times our photos and posts were viewed, mine always hit around the 180-200 mark. And trust me, it wasn't because I was doing it myself. Nothing wrong with guys admitting the truth and saying they look forward to a Monkeypaw report or pics, because even I know they are entertaining as fuck! You don't have to worry, my dick doesn't get hard to flattery. I've been used to that shit all my life, so my response is to keep on keeping on.
Back on the topic of girls pics, I wanted to chime in first on some thoughts about the debate on posting them or not. All you have to do is admit the insecurity of your personal selections in girls, if you all you do is talk about others who post and you don't do any of your own. Now if you do post pics, feel free to talk shit to everybody else. You have that right because you are at the top of the food chain. Also, if you really don't give a flying rat's ass about what other guys think, post the damn pics. All the guys I hung out with have pics of the girls they hooked up with on this trip, whether it's, by LINE, Facebook, WeChat, or the camera. Why isn't nobody sharing? IMHO it is because you for some reason think it's "your" girl because you fucked her and there is a rapport. News flash, she is not your girlfriend! They were prostitutes when you met them and prostitutes after you left. And no matter how many other people they fuck, from now until you meet them on your next trip, it's highly unlikely the snugness of their pussies will change. So share that shit, post them pics, tell us where you found them, or at least identify them with some names and numbers. That way if Monkeypaw or anybody finds them to be hot, let us have our chance to stick our dicks in them as well. And please don't give me that I want to protect their safety lame ass shit excuse. Really, that shit is weak. Especially, when the same dudes are sharing and identifying Smooci and massage shop girls. Bar and club girls, not so much. What's the problem?
Are you saying these Go Go bar girls don't have a choice on who they fuck as well? Or you saying the Go Go bar girls aren't smart enough to screen their own customers. Top girls at the bars and way smarter, more cunning, more deceptive, and have much more game than 99.9 % of mongers. These top end girls will make you feel stupid. Ask Lew, ask Phazze93, ask FL Hawk what happened with some of the top girls? The only one that they dislike playing with is the Paw. I don't want sound rude to my acquaintances, but to everybody that I have met, these top girls still have way much more hustle in them than you brought with you. In time maybe you can learn and get better at playing. I feel sorry for the other ones where the average to below averages looking girls can get you to fly half way across the world to pay them for sex. Think about that. But the most stupidest excuse I've heard yet for not sharing pics is the white knight theory that somebody may "out" them. First, they work in a public place that sells sex. Secondly, if you don't know by now, and most of you don't know from your obvious silly comments, this world of sex for sale has unwritten rules. One is get labeled as a "snitch" in a Go Go bar environment is very very bad news for you. Think about how the conversation goes with a white knight snitch and a Go Go bar girl.
White Knight: I know online a website some guy posted pictures of you and said what you do for boom boom. I can show you. (Fumbling through ISG threads).
Go Go girl: Is it good or bad?
White Knight: he say you do this, you do that, and have your photos.
Go Go girl: I work a Go Go. I boom boom customers, that my job. Sometimes I take photos. But I can always choose. So why I need to know?
White Knight: Well, ummm. I just want to show you, err. (Now comes the awkward silence). He say you boom boom no condom.
Go Go girl: What if he lie? Why you tell me? He your friend?
White Knight: Ummm. No, I just want help you.
Go Go bar girl: Help me how?
Good luck answering the last question. See how stupid this conversation is getting and sounds? Congratu-fucking-lations, you just earned a nice jacket as a snitch. Now go wear it proudly because it becomes a part of your reputation wherever you go. Everybody in this P4P industry or any underground non-mainstream lifestyle, hates a snitch. That means you have no game whatsoever and will resort to the lowest, lamest, weakest tactic by tattle telling, thinking it will win you favors with the girls. Nope. You by snitching to the girls are saying that you will "out" anybody if you don't get your way. And there is no good reason why you telling the girl all of this. What's the point? From that moment that you are labeled by the girls as a snitch, they will play you out and have you running home back to your momma broke as a tooth fairy in a house full of meth heads. Trust Monkeypaw on this. This is the world I've learned to live in, full of drugs, sex, violence, and hustle, not some yuppie suburbia where you came from. But the reason I can relate to those who are oblivious to this is because I also spent my some life on your side as well. I excel at both worlds, books smarts combined with of streets and and extra helping of prison smarts. That's why those who have met the Paw always have this feeling as if, '"Monkeypaw comes off as knowing his shit ".
Now, I don't mind sharing pics and pointing out where to find the girls because it doesn't increase the competition for me. I'm confident that if I went into bar with the mindset on a particular girl I was hunting for the night, I will get her no matter who or where she was sitting. Isn't that the definition of a hunt. Are you guys actually "hunting?" Find a target, catch the target, and then nail that target. Or you guys going into a bar and the girls dictate who you end up with. You don't choose them, they choose you. Can't remember how may times, I've asked a guy, "Is that the hottest girl here?" And then they answer back, she's pretty hot. I would then say, "Go for it. " And then, it's excuses after excuses until they end up with an average looking girl who did nothing but smiled at them. Not sure what the hell is registering that cerebral cortex of theirs. A smile = she likes me? That is obvious game by the average looking girls. Because the top ones don't need to smile at anybody. So then comes the realization of the truth, which is a motherfucker. Everybody's 3000 baht is not worth the same amount, so I need to spend more or settle for less in terms of looks. It's like trying to go hunt a lion, but you end up with a half rotted dead fish that had washed ashore. I don't know if I can ever relate to those who fail like this. But feel free to live vicariously through the Paw. To be honest, a few of the girls on this past trip were not better looking than many of those from my previous trips because I am running out of girls. I try my hardest to bang new talent and not repeat. It's how this whole "playboy" thing works. The last thing I want is girls thinking they own me or have me whipped. So I need new girls, that's why I want to see what some of these posters have under these rocks left unturned, when they claim about being with stunners. I admit, I want to fuck your stunners, so point them out because I'm running out of girls to bang. I need some new talent to dick down. I've shown my cards, shared, and now waiting patiently for others to do the same. Or at this point, am I really number fucking one at this game, because I have yet to see or met anyone who can keep up?
To be continued (girls, girls, girls, with pics next).
Part 3 The Rat.
This is a continuation of the above report. Sorry it's taken me awhile to finish up, but been I've bit busy sleeping and stuff, well that's until I saw that we've reached #666 for this thread. Then like clockwork, my inner spirit kicks in to fulfill my duty to root out you know what. Something about that number that triggers something inside of me. Guess it is because of who I am and what I was created for. Part 4 Girls, girls, girls.
So as promised, form the last report (above). After paying my dues to the legendary slump buster of Soi 6, here is a review of all the girls I fucked on this past trip. I don't take notes like FL, so I try to go by strict memory. But there is enough identifying information in case anybody has an itch to find and play with these girls.
Palace Agogo (IMHO and the opinions of those who regularly frequent Go Go bars still #1 Agogo in Thailand).
1. Natcha (pictured in the red and black bikini next to the water), model, slim, one of best body at Palace, fake tits.
Services rendered: BBBJ, LFK, MPCFS, and COT.
Paid: 2000 barfine, 4 lady drinks, 3000 plus 100 tip for 2 hours.
Rest of story: To be honest, this was just a gratuity fuck to tick off #188, coyote, who used to be her best friend and roommate. More on this later, but the session was just so so and not really anything special or GFE. Sometimes, a little drama is needed to entertain me because I get so bored, so I like to play with all these girl's emotions. I think a few other folks folks can relate as well (wink wink).
2. Mo #101 (not pictured), coyote, short hair, very slim, huge fake tits, and has feather tattoo below her right front shoulder.
Services rendered: GFE, BBBJ, DATY, long intense 45 minutes of 69 ing, DFK, MPCFS, and CIM.
Paid: 1000 barfine, 2 lady drinks, 3000 plus 200 tip for 2 hours.
Rest of story: Seen her over a year now and it's finally her turn to get on this Monkey dick and get a ride of a lifetime. I have always seen her staring at me from the corner of my eye, but I just ignored her because it wasn't her time yet. All these girls need to learn patience and that Monkeypaw will call you whenever he calls you, just wait until your turn. Chill out and keep working those kegel muscles to keep the pussy tight. So she was the girl I told her to wait for me until I come back after 11 pm. Previously FL reported on this girl in case if folks are still wondering if I make this shit up.
I am sure we visited another club or two, but I have to agree Palace overall was the best. Monkey was patiently waiting on me to pick someone. At Palace, he had previously told the girl he wanted to wait on him, so he was under no time pressure, but it was time for me to fish or cut bait. I said let's go back to Palace, and when we did his girl came over to sit. And like a trained dog, Mo did because she has heard the rumors on what happened to the last girl who didn't wait and broke that promise. I also had to run a shit load of game and hustle that was pleasing to her ears to get the session above. I told her that I always liked her. But one time I was sitting with another girl and I pointed to her. The other girl told me, she (Mo) only like farangs, not tattooed up Asians. That was because she had told me that Mo had a bad experience with a Korean guy with tattoos. Of course all this shit was made up on the spot, but it worked like a charm. In the room, I'm sure she would have been agreeable to BBFS from the way she acted, but of course Monkeypaw doesn't roll that way. After our 69 session, I bent her over doggy and she was already grabbing my cock to put in her pussy. I hadn't even pulled out the condom yet. That shit is for the weak and those who have no sense of control of themselves. And clearly, that's not me. Monkeypaw is strong. Good session by a very tiny girl, tits on a stick should be her nickname.
3. Bom #444 (pictured in black panties and bra with tattoo on her neckline), model, fake tits.
Services rendered: BBBJ, DATY, LFK, COT, MPCFS, and decent fuck but not quite GFE.
Paid: 2000 barfine, 2 lady drinks, 3000 plus 100 tip for 2 hours.
Rest of story: Previously about 8 months ago, I saw Bom and thought she was "a new model". She was better looking than most that night awhile back, so I had mamasan bring her over from off stage. She gave me a slight cold shoulder (first drink ordered was tequila shot) and started with some game playing. Within 30 seconds, I realize this girl just lazy and just wanted to get off stage for the time being. I told her before she even finished her shot, "I need you to do me a favor and go back on stage and back to dancing. Keep the drink ticket for your salary, but the tequila is mine. " And with that I took her shot glass and chugged it down. Asshole move or not? Think about that. She called mamasan over and was told that if I wasn't going to buy her anymore drinks, she needs to go back on stage, to which she did, but all mad and angry like hooker who didn't get paid. Later, I found out that she was not new, but a returning popular model that I wasn't aware of. She had been gone over a couple of years, so we were not acquainted at all. Soon after that, when she kept seeing Monkeypaw over and over again at Palace, she of course started inquiring and found out who I was that gave her the boot. She asked around and the girls there talked. This was where the Paw's reputation kicked in. If you are a "hot girl," Monkeypaw would have already fucked you, they told her. I play off of their insecurities like that. She probably told them that I once wanted to barfine her, but of course nobody believed her. So Mom started sending friends over to me that kept pointing her out again, asking "Why don't you barfine her?" I told them shit like, "Her boob job is ugly and sucks. Look at how her nipples point upwards. " And of course, I did that knowing it will get back to her. There were times when she and another model would go around selling tequila off the trays. When they got to me, I would buy her friend one and NOT buy her one. I would tell her friend to drink it slowly in front of me while Bom had to stand there in awkwardness, empty handed. She was getting very upset because she think she is a top 5 model at Palace, and Monkeypaw can make anybody feel bottom of the barrel. Finally, on this night it was around midnight, and I wanted to see if I can make a girl flip with my game. She was nervously dancing in front of me, trying to avoid eye contact with me. And after 8 months of torture, I smiled at her and called her down for a drink. The game and hustle I had to spit at her is legendary and she apologized for the first nighty we met. In the room, during our session I can tell, she would have taken 2 sessions to break. Meaning a second barfine along with, "let me be one of your main girls" would have gotten the full GFE with CIM experience with Bom. She was embarrassed about how she was actually getting super wet and enjoying the experience with a guy that she just wanted to capture as a trophy to impress her model friends. I play that game all the time. I'll keep her on the list in case I get bored again. Now Phazze93's model girl keeps telling him that Bom wants to go with me again. She wants to be in the same class as Fha and Fern as the only 2 models I have taken multiple times at Palace. To that I said, it's all game, maybe next time. I want her to seriously beg for some Monkey love for the second round to happen.
4. Fern #401 (pictured sitting in white bikini) model, slender all natural body.
Services rendered: CBJ, LFK, DATY, MPCFS, non GFE but so much better than the starfish treatment she gave me the first time we went.
Paid: 2000 barfine, 2 lady drinks, plus 1 for her friend (whom I've banged before), 3000 plus 100 tip for 2 hours.
Rest of Story: Fern is number #1 at Palace amongst all the girls in terms of rank. Honestly, she may be the #1 girl of all Walking Street in revenue generated. She is very well known. She gets special treatment from the mamasans because she is able to pull in 45-55 drinks per night just for herself, not even including the drinks for her friends and staff. I did the math and her 500 drinks per 10 day contract puts her salary as a Palace model at around 35,000 for 10 days (13,000 for reaching 50 drinks and 50 baht x 450 for the remaining drinks). Include her take out rate which ranges from 5,000 to 8,000 (1-2 customers) per night and she makes in the range of 85,000 to 115,000 baht per 10 days. This was Monkeypaw and Fern's second time around and it was so much better than the session 5 months ago. You can read up on how it went the first time.
Last night at Palace I barfined a model #401, named Fern. According to most of the girls there, Fern is one of the top girls if not the top girl in hustling drinks for the bar. The day before, she got 42 drinks from customers. We have seen each other for about 2 years now, but last night was the first time I approached her when I saw her standing alone. She had been on my list to do, but for some reason she and I never connected. Before last night I have already barfined about 10 other models from Palace. Apparently her scheme was just to go and let me barfine her so that it kept he status as one of the top girls there. Meaning it looked odd to the other girls working there that after 2 years, I never took her. I think it's an ego and competition thing amongst the girls at each club. Anyways, she was lame in bed. No BJ, complained too much about everything. Still at least I got her off my check list. Most guys she won't even sit with unless she knows you have lots of money or status. Total damage was 10,000 including drinks, barfine, and for the girl for 3 hours. Wonder if anybody has had better luck with her?
Of note, she does have one of the sexiest slender all natural body in the entire Walking Street.So I have to eat my own words here, which I don't mind doing. Just like when I finally went to Windmill and took the hottest one there. It was something I thought I would never do. So after saying I would not repeat with Fern, I did. I was rather lucky that it was her 10th day and she was ending a contract. Fern had made beyond her quota in drinks and was waiting until she could go home at 1 am. She had no intention of going with a customer that night. I saw her sitting alone around midnight, and we chatted a bit before she agreed to go fuck short time. After we finished, she told me she could be "more friendlier" in bed, if I promised only barfine her and no other girls at Palace. She cared less about others on Walking Street clubs. To that, Monkeypaw said, "Nope. " She isn't going to break my spirit and whip me for this one girl one club thing. Don't care of she was top girl in Thailand, not going to happen with the Paw. Even Fern has got to get old eventually. Why not lie and play her out? Because her reputation is very trustworthy amongst the girls at Palace. She has a lot of friends and her word carries a lot of weight, so I rather not make this one angry at me.
5. Fha #434 (pictured in the dark red dress with silver neck choker holding teddy), model, petite, fake tits.
Services rendered: BBBJ, GFE, PSE, 69 ing intense session, DATY, CIM, sex toys, MPCFS, but she tried her damnedest to get me to BBFS.
Paid: 2000 barfine, 4 lady drinks plus one for her friend, and 5000 plus 100 tip for 5 hours.
Rest of story: Fha which means "blue," and ironically also my favorite color, is more of a let me make my drink quota, grab my customer, and go type of girl. So warning, if you are sitting buying her drinks for awhile, be very cautious of her intent not to go. She typically works less than one hour per night, unless she is hustling a shit load of drinks from a sucker. Fha was sort of my number one girl in there and the one model I have repeated with the most. I have used up every hole in that sweet sexy body of hers. IMHO she looks better than Fern, even Banana Boi thinks she may be #1 in terms of looks, but her hustle is not as good as Fern. When she can, she will get her customers to buy her friends drinks as well, but she's not as demanding. She has a bit of a conscience and is not cut throat, unless it's one of those weekend warriors or holiday millionaire customers, which all these girls have NO respect or sympathy for. And Fha doesn't not get along with the mamasans, who would rather she come in early and make the entire club a shit load of money because of her looks. She, instead, takes care of herself first and doesn't need to be popular amongst the girls or mamasans at Palace. The night I took her again, I was sitting with Phazze93 when she came in late. Honestly, I had no intention of grabbing her and even tried to hide from her. That night, as soon as she came in and changed into her bikini, she walked straight towards me and Phazze93 and sat next to me. I offered her the drinks because she has always been good to me. I was to be her first and only customer that night. Her spell on me was that strong, plus it was past 11:30 and I didn't feel like looking around anymore. She wanted to go bar hopping a bit and get drunk for some reason that night, so we strolled to a few other Go Go bars. Then when we finally made it to my room and showered, we had a long chat about life. How she wanted to go away on a vacation and just" tired" of it all. In other words, she lost her Korean sponsor. It was all game by her, even the attempted drunkenness. I was already peeping her out earlier in the night. We then had a long PSE session, were she attempted several times to let me fuck her bare and raw. I told her "no" each time and she started crying. Who does she think she is playing with? Like I mentioned before, Monkeypaw isn't weak and doesn't fall for that shit. Everything ended with a long intense 69 session that had my cum oozing from her mouth, a quick meal of some spicy stir fry noodles, and 100 baht for her taxi ride home. She said she was drunk and begged to sleep over. I ended letting her keep the 100 baht for a tip and used GRAB to get her home. That's straight up, unheard of, Monkeypaw, "playboy" type of shit there. I'm almost positive 99% of you guys would have fallen for that shit, bareback the girl, let her sleep over, and bareback her again the next day. Not sure what to say, but weak is all I can think of. Anyways, Fha must of heard that Fern got a chance to fuck me twice a few nights before and felt threatened. Tsk, tsk, tsk the Paw sometimes knows too much.
6. Mia (I have one a pic of her but it was taken by Lew and has him in it, so I need to wait on his permission), model, short hair last shoulders, nice body, fake tit, so so face.
Services rendered: BBBJ, DFK, MPCFS, no DATY my choice.
Paid: 2000 barfine, 2 lady drinks, 3000 plus 100 tip for 2 hours.
Rest of the story: Mia is a model that has been stalking me for like months on months and I never once bought her a drink. She recently started wearing glasses at work, which I find highly unattractive on her face, not that it is the most loveliest anyways with or without. Her body is banging though, perhaps top 5 body at Palace, in that category. Anyways, Lew Ashby and I ended up hitting Palace way after midnight. I did not want to get stuck with Fha (from above) again, but sure enough, guess who was there when we came in? Thank God, some farang called both of them over for drinks. He was sitting next to us and chatting to Lew Ashby on the ins and outs about Palace, the girls, and such. He was such a Palace expert, while I just sat there quietly, ignoring their conversation. Lew liked Mia, but she did not like his antics. He tried to barfine her but she wasn't having any of that. The customer that Fha and Mia were sitting with bought a shit load of drinks for the two girls and for a few of their friends as well. The bill was over 10,000 baht I believe (he showed Lew) and the night was not over. Then like clockwork, Fha sent Mia over to ask if I wanted to take her out tonight. To which I said, "no" because I see her making drinks for so many of the girls and the club, it would be unfair. What I really meant was "no," I want to find some new pussy that is going to let me fuck and then go in peace. The customer chatting with Lew intended to barfine both of the models, Mia and Fha, so he was racking up a big bill to impress them. It was my last night in Pattaya, so I called Mia over and asked if she wanted to go fuck. Honestly, I know she's friends with Fha, and I need to break that spell that Fha had on me. Mia of course turned to her right and asked Fha in Thai, if it was okay. Fha rolled her eyes at me, but told Mia, it was okay and that I was a good customer. So I bought Mia 2 drinks and paid the barfine. While she was changing, Fha told me that it was fine I took Mia because she has always liked me since she started working. This is all so high-schoolish, but ooh so fun. The farang customer just kind of sat there looking lost at what was transpiring in front of his face. Here he is, buying these two models, their friends, and the mamasans a crap load of drinks (probably reaching 12,000 baht by now) and yet, they are talking to the another customer (me) sitting 5 feet away and not him. On top of that, I only paid for 2 drinks and took one of his two models that he intended to grab. Classic Monkeypaw. I did leave him with Fha, who was my number one girl at Palace as a parting gift. So you see, I'm not greedy at all, nor am I overly jealous. Not sure what ended up happening there with her and him. Like an angel, I played cupid for Lew and he grabbed another model that I knew and fucked when she was at Fahrenheit. On the way out, the customer that was sitting with Fha and bought all the drinks, just gave me a nod, then smiled, and gave me a fist bump. I guess he recognized a true player when he saw one. The session with Mia was weird, too lovey dovey for a first session. She was talking way too much and telling all about her life. I really just wanted fuck her brains out and to break the spell by Fha, not enjoy it too much. But the way that Mia fucks in doggy, I was able to cum in her pussy with the condom on. She knows her angles and her arches. By the way, she demands to be fucked at least an hour or so and she wants to cum badly. She's told me she heard good things about the way I fuck and she is very vocal, telling you exactly what she wants in bed. Thank goodness, Lew was able to take her after I left. That's my excuse now to get rid of Mia. You fucked my buddy, so it's over for us (sniff, sniff, sniff). Best way to do charity.
7. Far (pictured with her photo saying Nongfar with sunglasses on her head), coyote, natural big, perky tits.
Services rendered: BBBJ, DATY, DFK, MPCFS, ANAL, CIM.
Paid: 4000 for an hour, plus 400 for short time room and 2 condoms.
Rest of story: I first met and fucked Far when she worked at Sensations, before she switched to Palace. She is only a part time coyote, so basically she comes in when she wants to but is charged by the bar her first two drinks to work that night and only gets 50 baht per drink afterwards, no salary. Girls who are part time usually come into work to find "holiday boyfriends. " What they do is look and stalk for newbies that are here for a short time holiday. They will go with a customer and give a customer a helluva experience to capture him and sucker him into getting them over and over again. They will often tell the customer that they have to pay their barfine everyday of 1500 so that they do not have to go into work plus 5000 baht per day for the girl. These part time girls will then pocket all that money for themselves and become a "holiday girlfriend" for 3 or 4 days, while going on shopping sprees, to the beach, getting wine and dined, and then fucked. If their hustle is really good, the guy goes back home with the girl constantly on their mind and they can get him to send over some money as well. Or at the least, get the guy to come back soon and take the same girl to do the same shit all over again. Until tonight, I hadn't seen Far for awhile. It had been over 6 months, since I took her from Palace. She came into the bar with a customer but in street clothes, so I assumed she was not working but just visiting friends with one of her "holiday boyfriends. " She saw me and smiled. I quickly LINEd her to say "Hi" and to confirm that she was with one of those "holiday boyfriends. " Long story short, she is one of those few girls that enjoy and know how to anal fuck and it was rare to have her in my sights, so with LINE, I offered her 4000 baht for a quickie (for me that's less than an hour) upstairs. Within minutes, we met outside. She had left her guy inside the club, saying that she needed to go outside to smoke. Not sure what excuse she made up after we were done, but poor old sap looked like he was pussy whipped and will believe anything she will say. We then headed upstairs above Palace to fuck. Far is willing to do ass to mouth, but you have to take off the condom. She knows how to prepare her ass properly and cleanly for a thorough ass plowing. Crazy thing is that the short time hotel offered no tooth brushes and after she finished me with a CIM, Far went back downstairs, and I watched that guy keep kissing her for the next few minutes. Nasty girl, yuck! He's lucky Monkeypaw drinks plenty of pineapple juice and likes to eats fruits.
The rest of these girls do not have much of a story line because it was simply I came, I saw, and I conquered with them. No need to game play because they were all new (besides Miza) or this was the first time they caught my attention. These girls were all the best looking ones at that time, in their respective place of work, and I was able to grab my first choice of girls. Easier than taking a shit after some bad Mexican food.
Baccara Agogo.
1. Miza (pictured black dress with black button in the center with wavy long brown hair), slim, fake tits.
Services rendered: BBBJ, DATY, DFK, MPCFS.
Paid: 1000 barfine, 3000 pus 500 tip for hour and a half, plus 2 lady drinks.
Rest of story: Not quite GFE, but was able to cum while fucking her doggy. She can bang a whole hour with no complaints. Very loud girl that squirms a lot, very Japanese submissive style fuck. So not sure was it faked or what? But still, very fun. This was our second session. First was when she worked at Sensations.
Sensations Agogo.
1. Forgot her name (only girl pictured with two photos hugging my bear), short hair, very pretty Korean style face, slim, petite, with fake tits, and nice ass.
Services rendered: GFE, DFK, PSE, BBBJ NSNQ, DATY, intense 69 ing, sex toys, MPCFS, and CIM.
Paid: 1500 barfine, 5 lady drinks, 5000 plus 100 tip for 5 hours.
Rest of story: Stole her from a group of young Korean guys who she obviously knew from the way they acted. Took her to Palace to show her off and introduce her to the girls and mamasans (in case she wanted a better venue to work) and then to go watch the shows with the guys and their girls at Imagine Club on a very wet and rainy night. Very hot session by a hot girl.
MP showed up then we left for Sensations, where he bar fined a really cute girl. She was new and she was pretty hot, and he likes to BF the new, hot girls at one of this favorite clubs and show them off. What's Up Agogo.
1. Forgot her name (pictured eating my delicious peppered fish and rice), slim, fake tits, nice ass, with a small tattoo above her right boob.
Services rendered: GFE, BBBJ, DATY, DFK, CIM, sex toys, MPCFS.
Paid: 1000 barfine, 4 lady drinks, 3000 plus 200 tip for 2 hours.
Rest of Story: She was a new girl working at What's Up for only 2 weeks but very fun in bed. The girls at What's Up and most bars, have learned to help me get the new girls in exchange for a drink or two. It's our deal. That we have with each other. Call it a professional courtesy. Those who want to pussy block, get Monkeypaw's attention. They end up getting clowned and embarrassed by the Paw. That is well known all over Walking Street. Ruthless.
Shark Agogo.
1. Tipp 636 (not pictured but very cute, slim, with natural average sized perky tits).
Services rendered: BBBJ, GFE, DATY, DFK, MPCFS, CIM.
Paid: 1000 barfine, 4 lady drinks, 3000 plus 200 tip for 2 hours.
Rest of story: Was walking back down Soi 15 to catch a motorbike taxi. I had already had an earlier session with Far in the short time room above Palace. Saw this cute girl holding a sign at Star around 1 am and invited her inside for a drink. Funny thing is she has seen the Paw for over a year walking with "many many girls" as she puts it because Soi 15 is often where we catch our motorbikes taxis. Nice session by a new cute girl.
Nightwish Bar.
1. Tan (black blouse and long black hair).
Services rendered: BBBJ, DFK, MPCFS, CIM.
Paid: 1000 plus 200 tip for an hour, 3 lady drinks plus 400 for short time room.
Rest of story: Only cute girl there slim with fake tits. Of note, I've always found CIM as pretty standard for me at Soi 6 bars. I've taken like 7 girls ever from Soi 6 and always had a CIM finish. Hell, they even have BJ bars on Soi 6. So if you are getting rejected or aren't getting CIM at a BJ bar on Soi 6, you have some serious issues, Or unless that whole BBFS reputation is biting you right in the ass. So, not too wise to be a fool and go around asking girls for BBFS in a closed environment like that beforehand. Even a newbie would know that if the girl tells you "no," and her friends asked her what's the problem with him (this is Soi 6 mind you, where nobody gets rejected), it won't take long for that BBFS jacket to get placed on you. The whole Soi 6 will know in no time at all. I bet the girls like that and have no problem pointing you out wherever you go.
I met up with MP at Night Wish and he chose to BF a lady from there, but despite it being a busy night, I saw no one else that I particularly wanted to BF. I did stop is to say Hello, to Jin at Horny Bar. She was feeling ill, and she looked ill.Toy Box.
1. Nam (not pictured).
Services rendered: BBBJ, DFK, MPCFS, CIM.
Paid: 1000 plus 100 tip for an hour, 3 lady drinks plus 400 for short time room.
Rest of story: Cutest girl there at the time, but one shower room shared for the entire hallway is just nutty. Some old dude walked in the bathroom as I was showering. Rooms are crappy, but the fuck was decent. Credit card acceptance there is a life saver with 1000 minimum.
Sabai Room.
1. Girl #56 (not pictured).
Services rendered: Typically soapy experience, but did do a short BBBJ in tub, LFK, DATY, MPCFS, COB.
Paid: 2500, plus 200 tip, plus 1 drink.
Rest of story: #56 has one of the prettiest faces I've seen since mongering, decent body with huge fake tits. Besides the BBBJ in the tub, typical soapy experience. She was smiling at me the day I went with BB and Phazze93, but gone when we finished touring the other soapies upon my return to grab her. So I just came back the next day and bang the shit out of that pussy.
Sabai Room was next. Not a great lineup but it had 2 nice girls. These turned out to be the prettiest soapie girls we saw. I didn't write down the numbers but off the top of my head they were 28 and 56. To be continued.
Excellent point.
However, I would suggest you take a trip to The Pimp at least once. Blow that 25 K baht in one night and you will see a few on-stage 10's.
https://www.instagram.com/nnimiko/
A sample. There are pics of her workmates too. I am sure there will be many here who will not agree this girl is top notch, that is why its said "beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder".Absolute not my style of girl. Her body is great of course, but the face is rather plain. More like the style that Japanese and Korean guys would like. The are many ladies. Even in Soi Cowboy. That have a far more attractive face. And with a body to match.
Absolute not my style of girl. Her body is great of course, but the face is rather plain. More like the style that Japanese and Korean guys would like. The are many ladies. Even in Soi Cowboy. That have a far more attractive face. And with a body to match.No the face is not at all rather plain.
Ha ha. Tastes vary obviously. Can you post your style of face? I thought the face was very good but not impressed by lump shape of the fake boobies.
Absolute not my style of girl. Her body is great of course, but the face is rather plain. More like the style that Japanese and Korean guys would like. The are many ladies. Even in Soi Cowboy. That have a far more attractive face. And with a body to match.When I first moved to Thailand my tastes were similar to yours. Boy has that changed. As one friends Thai wife once said, "When farangs first come to Thailand their eyes don't work. " She's kind of spot on. Once that switch flips you will look at the gals on Cowboy and wonder how you were ever attracted to them. Believe me, it'll happen to you.
When I am on Cowboy, which is a rare event, I can pick the northern gals (Chiang Mai, Chaing Rai, etc) from the Isaan gals instantly. There are very few northern gals, but they are the only ones that work for me these days.
I know this is a stupid question, that's why in this thread.
I sit on the corner of Cowboy and watch guys going past with their girl, unfortunately clothed of course. Which guys are with the prettiest girls? The number of times a Japanese guy (or Koren or Singapore) etc. Has a girl that impresses me with her looks is moderately high, if we ignore the lady boys and the ones with too much surgeries (for my taste). Quite common for me to think, fuck, where did he find that girl? Looks pretty hot.
Yet with Farangs walking past, the frequency I am impressed is significantly lower. Maybe the Farangs are choosing more raunchy girls. I guess the frequency of Asian guys in total is probably out-numbering the Farangs, but the point is still there. I think the Asian guys have overall better taste. Maybe they are coming up with high amounts of money for some Coyote girl, since I don't get to know where the girl came from. Maybe she is no good on the bed. Maybe she is not even from Cowboy at all. I am going by looks alone.
The number of girls walking on cowboy on the arm of an East Asian guy, that impress me for looks is even higher than Thermae girls, for both faces and body. Thermae girls are notorious for conservative dress hiding the body.
Yet I go in the Cowboy bars and fail to find so many good looking girls. That is why I start to suspect these impressive girls are not from Cowboy.
I admit my tastes in Thai girls have changed a lot in 27 years. Most of my pics of Thai girls from yesteryear don't impress me much any more. The odd exception. I became more fussy, for sure. My taste for very natural looking girls would still be very much classified as a Farang one, but still I do admire many classy girls with classy East Asian guys. I don't do well competing with those East Asian guys (e.g. in the Thermae), so I have to normally pick girls that prefer Farangs, if any pretty ones are left over.
I do like Issan girls, providing they are extra pretty. No bias toward Northern or southern girls. No prejudice and skin colour not a factor. Evaluate each girl on her own merits. All my regular girls these days are Issan, Lao, Khmer, Bangkok, etc. Have had some really great Northern girls in the past, especially in soapies (don't find many in the gogos), just none at present. The best three girls I ever had at Crazy House (best looking too: Nut, Donut, and May-Lee), I don't even remember where they came from. Wasn't that important, or my bad memory setting in. All long gone now and I get bored in this bar now.
Before for I start, Monkeypaw would like to point out this simple fact. Some folks on here have been playing checkers, while the Paw has been playing chess. Look at a couple of responses to this quote from Aviator12 about the girl in question previously posted by Blanquiceleste.
"Absolute not my style of girl. Her body is great of course, but the face is rather plain. More like the style that Japanese and Korean guys would like. The are many ladies. Even in Soi Cowboy. That have a far more attractive face. And with a body to match. " -Aviator12.
And the responses he got:
I know this is a stupid question, that's why in this thread. I sit on the corner of Cowboy and watch guys going past with their girl, unfortunately clothed of course. Which guys are with the prettiest girls? The number of times a Japanese guy (or Koren or Singapore) etc. Has a girl that impresses me with her looks is moderately high, if we ignore the lady boys and the ones with too much surgeries (for my taste). Quite common for me to think, fuck, where did he find that girl? Looks pretty hot.
Yet with Farangs walking past, the frequency I am impressed is significantly lower. Maybe the Farangs are choosing more raunchy girls. I guess the frequency of Asian guys in total is probably out-numbering the Farangs, but the point is still there. I think the Asian guys have overall better taste. -SNIP
When I first moved to Thailand my tastes were similar to yours. Boy has that changed. As one friends Thai wife once said, "When farangs first come to Thailand their eyes don't work. " She's kind of spot on. Once that switch flips you will look at the gals on Cowboy and wonder how you were ever attracted to them. Believe me, it'll happen to you. -SNIP Funny thing is that Monkeypaw already knew this and when I pointed this out (almost a year ago), I received nothing but backlash and arguments. Lots of anger. What's up with that? I guess the old saying that "the truth hurts," really does hurt and stings more when it came from Monkeypaw. With just a handful of posts back then. But even then, didn't some of you folks just get the hint that "this guy sorta knows his shit?" Now today, thanks to this awesome memory bestowed by God, I really enjoy saying this almost a year later, with the utmost pleasure, "I told you so. " The tortoise will always win over the hare when it comes to "race," because of the simple fact that one has a life span of 150 years, while the other just 7 years. When you try play this game or "race," it is all about the long run. I think you may be finally getting it. People don't know jack shit until finally the truth is revealed to them. Count yourself lucky, because others will never know the truth. The following post was from the Paw back in January. Checkmate.
SNIP- And besides, statistically speaking Asians, not most westerners, are usually the best judge for what counts as beauty in Asian culture. It's the same like everywhere in the world. I've seen so many Westerners on their first trip to an Asian country and pay for sex with the most below average looking Asian hooker. I ask if they would have pay for sex with street crack working girls in the USA? They say "no way. " I say back. "Why are you doing that here in Thailand?Part 5: Palace Girls Versus the Paw.
Part 4 Girls, girls, girls.
So as promised, form the last report (above). After paying my dues to the legendary slump buster of Soi 6, here is a review of all the girls I fucked on this past trip. I don't take notes like FL, so I try to go by strict memory. But there is enough identifying information in case anybody has an itch to find and play with these girls.
Palace Agogo (IMHO and the opinions of those who regularly frequent Go Go bars still #1 Agogo in Thailand).
1. Natcha (pictured in the red and black bikini next to the water), model, slim, one of best body at Palace, fake tits.
Services rendered: BBBJ, LFK, MPCFS, and COT.
Paid: 2000 barfine, 4 lady drinks, 3000 plus 100 tip for 2 hours.
Rest of story: To be honest, this was just a gratuity fuck to tick off #188, coyote, who used to be her best friend and roommate. More on this later, but the session was just so so and not really anything special or GFE. Sometimes, a little drama is needed to entertain me because I get so bored, so I like to play with all these girl's emotions. I think a few other folks folks can relate as well (wink wink). -SNIP
So it's story time again, and as promised, more on the above Natcha from Palace (pictured with tattoos in the red and black bikini and also pictured in the middle wearing black top with three girls in the photo). Now, I can't say enough about Palace, but Monkeypaw can't wait for the holidays to be over with. Then I can get my ass back to Thailand at the end of December for an extended two month stay this time and a non stop fuckathon. Maybe this turn, I'll spend a week or so in Bangkok before heading to Pattaya. Back on the topic about Palace. It's like Candyland for grown ups, with so much games and hustle, that it makes the Man from Iran's Bars in Soi Cowboy look shabby when it comes to scams. The biggest difference is that it is always packed at peak hours with customers and hot girls. Unlike those other bars at Soi Cowboy. So not only do you get a chance to play with the girls but against the guys as well. Good luck to anybody going there. Just ask Lew Ashby how Fern #401, made him feel after he called her down for a drink. By the way, Lew isn't old, farang, fat, or cheap, but it didn't matter to Fern. She sat to his left and while the Paw was sitting to his right. But I did warn him ahead of time that she is #1 girl at Palace and not easy to at all. But take some refuge in the fact that out of respect for the Paw, even though she ignored him completely, she only took Lew for 1 drink, which wasn't even finished before she got bored and walked away. Fern didn't even excuse herself. Lew Ashby turned to me and said, "She didn't even say Hello, ask me my name, or anything at all. " I only smiled at him and said back, "Welcome to Palace and trying to play with the trophy girls. " We then both watched as Fern took 4 drinks plus another 2 for her friends from the next guy, who sat across from us. He was also young, Asian, and had lots of money as well. She did it less than 10 minutes and walked away from him. The look on his face when the waitress then handed him a 1300 baht bill for 10 minutes of her company was priceless. He got upset, paid the bill, and walked out of Palace a bit angry. He might as well have gone into Moulin Rouge and got played with the Russian girls. Phazze93, also hit that same wall when he called #174 down for a drink. She just sat there, smiled a bit, and got up and left after a few sips of her Coke.
SNIP- EXCEPT #174 at Palace. Who seemingly has also turned down everyone else on this board LOL. If anyone manages to get her. Share please. Cheers you fuckers.Actually the Paw was given the choice to barfine her to take her out awhile back. It was agreed to just be limited to only barhopping and dining. Not sure it was game by her to limit what the rest of the club knows or doesn't know. About what she does outside the club. But for 1500 barfine plus 3000 baht for her wasn't worth the risk, just so that Monkeypaw can hold the title as being the only guy to ever take her out of the club. If she stuck to the terms, almost 5000 baht was just wasted out the door. But guess we will never know. Good luck for anybody thinking that game is not required and it's all about money. Yes, this includes young Asian guys as well. So keep on thinking that it is easy as see a girl, buy a drink, and barfine and fuck with the better looking girls at the go go bars. Like I said before, these top girls are pros at spotting out weekend warriors and holiday millionaires, their favorite guys to hustle and break. Have you ever seen the Thai girls make the double "O" with both their hands and other girls stick their fingers inside of it, followed by the hands toss over the shoulders? They usually do this when they are barfined and on the way out the door with their customer. It is the universal sign for "I've got a sucker. " he fucks me, while I fuck him out of his money, his family, and his life and then throw his ass away. Thank God, I've reached a point where they don't do that shit with their hands to me. I think they know Monkeypaw plays back harder and better than they do. How, you ask? My game is better, so I win.
Like I said before, Monkeypaw is still #1 for Palace and Palace is #1 in Thailand. Yep, it's transitive effect for all those that passed algebra, if A=be and be=see, then true as well is A=see. Get the picture? Sorry to interrupt for this important announcement: My favorite color is still "blue. " And because it's blue, evil and chaos always seem to follow me wherever I go. But it's okay, I'm strong and like the Energizer bunny, I am built to last and keep on going, and going, and going. Girls at Palace and most all bars are always in competition with one another. Who makes the most money, who gets the most customers, who gets the most drinks, who is the most popular? Natcha has always considered herself a top 5 at Palace. She comes in at around midnight and typically on works for an hour to hawk out a customer, preferably a sponsor type, and milk him for everything. She was a ways down the list for me because for 1, I did not like hunting past midnight and 2, I've always thought she was too "fake" in terms of looks. Don't get me wrong, her body is banging and one of the best I've seen, but the rest of her didn't appeal to me until after I've already barfined and fucked over 40 or so girls at Palace. She was was never worth me having to come back late night past midnight to Palace and risk running into Fha #434. To her and most of the girls at Palace and on Walking Street, Monkeypaw is seen as a trophy they desire. It's not that I'm the most handsome, have the nicest body, buy the most drinks, or pay the most money. It's my aura, my reputation, and my spirit they want to break. All the girls at Palace act like huntresses, and I'm the legendary winged lion, Cazrameck, that they hope to capture. The word at Palace is that if Moneypaw picks you to play with him, then consider yourself one of the hotter girls or better looking ones amongst the rest. Girls need validation, but "only" from those qualified to give it. Some random schmuck of a customer calling a girl in a bar "beautiful or pretty" doesn't quite cut it for them. Who the hell are you? Honestly, do you think if you have no style, bad hygiene, or don't take care of your body that your opinion counts to them? They are want that money, unless you are the Paw. Put yourself in their shoes and empathize. If an unflattering person tries to flatter you, do you take their words seriously? They need their point to be proven to other girls by someone who everybody knows and whose opinion they respect. If your dog likes your cooking that's one thing, but if Chef Gordon Ramsay says it's delish, jack-fuckihg-pot! That's Monkeypaw for you. The girls know, play real hard, capture the Paw, make him yours and you have done something that no other girl has done before. And of course, it's all about bragging rights at Palace amongst the girls.
Before the night that I took Natcha, she's always been terrified to look at the Paw in the eyes. She had heard the stories. He's picky, he's an ass, he criticizes and tears down girls' looks, if he doesn't like something about you and you try to hustle him. In other words if a dancer comes at me for a drink and Monkeypaw "politely" declines, but she keeps at it, trying to make me feel cheap or guilty, then she gets ripped a new asshole to the sound of, "I don't like how your nose job looks. You need to go back to Bangkok and ask the doctor for a refund. " She then will leave me alone forever, unless she gets drunk and tries to kick me (yes that's happened before). Lord forbid she tells another girl what I said, because it always has some truth to it. The other girls already know the aesthetic facts about their co-worker's face, but now they also know, "This guy can tell a good nose job from a bad nose job. Hmmm. I wonder what he thinks about me?" One of my favorite things to do to impress the girls is to look at their boob jobs and guess exactly how many CC's it is. They are amazed at how accurate or close I come. Once again, Monkeypaw is building his reputation as somebody who knows what beauty is or at least in their eyes what to should be. And he pays attention to details. Awhile back, I had taken her best friend #188 (pictured on the right with the Supergirl outfit, with a white dress on the right of Natcha wearing the black top in the pic with 3 girls, and leaning down, hand in the chin with the pic full of girls). She has been the only girl I let sleep with me from Palace and we went to grab lunch the next day. I was drunk that night, and like a witch, she almost had me spelled. She was that close to capturing Monkeypaw and getting bragging rights at Palace. She told everybody at Palace that I took her long time and fed her the next day. I didn't like that at all. Don't know how many times I've heard girls tell me, "You cooked for that one (another girl), why not me or you let her sleep with you, why not me?" Now, I try to not get drunk as much, because all it does is lead me down a path of "no good" and bareback sex that is not worth the drama. #188 and Natcha belong to a popular click of girls at Palace that have been with and trophied Monkeypaw. As you can see from the photos included, every girl that has the cute monkey logo has been Monkeypawed (which means tied down to the bed and fucked in all sorts of ways with my dick and sex toys) until they cum repeatedly and some even squirt everywhere. They of course don't share those details with each other because it better left untold. All they know is that they heard rumors that I have gone with one of their best friends in their circle. You should see the look on "all" their faces when I show up in a club with brand new pretty girl from another go go bar and they happen to be having birthday party, and everybody is in attendance. The feeling I get when I can walk into an environment, command attention via looks and stares from girls, knowing what I've done to them, is amazing. Perhaps you can relate, or maybe not. But that type of shit makes me feel inhuman in good way. Reminds me of when my father enrolled me at an all woman's university (almost all), just to learn from, play with, and bang girls. Too easy.
The drama at the club happened on several occasions. Of course, I do the Monkeypaw thing that needs to be done each time, which is smile at all the girls, wink at all of them, kiss the new girl I brought to the club in front of them, and then tell the waiter to send over to them a new bottle of Black Label and put it under my tab. Everything I do has a connection leading back to me. Most are not even aware what's happening. They just feel at this moment, it's very awkward and something is going on to make them feel either special, silly, or stupid. It's the Paw effect on folks. Anyways, Monkeypaw then let's them sulk in the drama and confusion for the rest of the night. Watching them kind of looking at one another and wonderig "why I sent the free bottle over and who did what with me," is priceless. I tell you the stuff I do is "legendary. " They love it and hate it at the same time. The last one in those group photos to be fucked by me was Natcha. She was the very last for that reason that I had a feeling and knew she wasn't going to be that great in bed. And sure enough she was just so so. To her I was just a trophy. Since I fucked all of her friends, she wanted to be in the "Monkeypaw Fucked Me" club as well. I took solace in then fact that by taking her, I was getting back at #188 for almost gaming me out previously. Monkeypaw revenge, plus I was able to take in my daily 90 minutes of cardio in fucking Natcha, is a two for one deal. Anyways, with that fuck, the Paw broke up their friendship and now the girls don't talk to each other anymore. They were already on shaky ground anyways. Boo hoo, cry me a river. In P4P, there is no loyalty and if you think about it, the whole world is one giant P4P isn't it? No such thing as free sex. Think about that, only the highly intelligent will understand that statement. Monkeypaw and my kind are known or will be known to break up families, friends, or any other bonds you can think of without hesitation, but all for the sake of this thing called good. Natcha and her friends is not the first time that I've done that to with a tight knit group of girls. I've done that with the girls from Rainbow inside Nana, pictured in the white dresses, aside from the birthday girl in black. Each girl who has the monkey logo has been dicked down and thrown away. All those girls worked in Nana and are besties with one another. In one picture, Monkeypaw showed up with the girl wearing the black dress standing on the left side with her arms folded. Just like Rudolph, the other girls didn't let her participate in any reindeer games. You can see that in the photo. Even then, we still took the table next to them. I bought them a bottle because it was the center girl, Nam Cha, in black dress, birthday. Then Monkeypaw watched the jealousy worked its magic through the entire group of girls. Crazy that I can walk up to a group of girls who are supposed to be good friends and say, "I fucked you, I fucked you, I fucked you, and so on and so on. " Also I played a little drunk, so I can flirt with the entire table and be able to get away with it by blaming the alcohol. I took several opportunities to tell certain girls how great a fuck they were previously, while others listen in. Creating tenison is so much fun sometimes. But technically, all I was doing is telling the truth and being charitable. Nothing wrong with that. It's their own ego that often makes people upset. Monkeypaw was fine and having a blast, just like my time spent on this board with you folks keeping me entertained.
To be continued.
Funny thing is that Monkeypaw already knew this and when I pointed this out (almost a year ago), I received nothing but backlash and arguments. Lots of anger. What's up with that? I guess the old saying that "the truth hurts," really does hurt and stings more when it came from Monkeypaw. With just a handful of posts back then. But even then, didn't some of you folks just get the hint that "this guy sorta knows his shit?" Now today, thanks to this awesome memory bestowed by God, I really enjoy saying this almost a year later, with the utmost pleasure, "I told you so. " The tortoise will always win over the hare when it comes to "race," because of the simple fact that one has a life span of 150 years, while the other just 7 years. When you try play this game or "race," it is all about the long run. I think you may be finally getting it. People don't know jack shit until finally the truth is revealed to them. Count yourself lucky, because others will never know the truth. The following post was from the Paw back in January. Checkmate.Actually MP, I have posted this quote several times; the first time perhaps 10 plus years ago, so it is you that are late to the party! All in fun there sir! Another anecdote you might like. We were in Thermae in about '08 and got to talking to a Japanese guy who owned a club in Tokyo. He spoke excellent English and was a hoot to talk with. After a few minutes he asked us which girls we were attracted to. We pointed a few out and he looked perplexed and said, "You have good taste. " Then he said, "Do you mind if I ask you a question?" No, of course we said. To which he replied, "Why do white guys like girls that look like monkeys?" We laughed and I told the story of my friend's gal who make the statement I quoted in the post. It's simple; when we first come here our eyes don't work, but once they do, it's a eye opener. Literally!
The what's "hot / attractive" to Asian eyes. Or farang eyes. Etc is a speculative exercise in stupidity although one can have some fun playing it.
What does it really matter to the white guy who's happy with his girl's looks if the Asian guy thinks she's a dog?? (or monkey?) And vice versa?
That's putting aside the other great factor (sometimes the greatest) which is body and the type of body the guy will be attracted to. Personality and "raunchiness" is another factor, though unrelated to looks.
Then, there is the "sexy" vs "beautiful" debate. Those two adjectives, though similar are not identical.
I've had these arguments / discussions with many Koreans.
One of the most lively was always their claim that the (young) Lucy Liu was ugly. Or at least average at best.
My personal tastes generally speaking run counter to most Asian guys (for e.g. I like darker skinned Thai girls and darker skin generally). to which I say - that's good for me.. and them.
P.S. at the risk of being over "generalizing", I will say that Asian tastes are vulnerable to "herd instinct"(s). For e.g. if one girl will be considered "beautiful" to say 3 Koreans, odds are she will be considered "beautiful" to 95 out of a 100 of them. This would not be the same in a group of farangs.
pp.s. I will say I admire Mr. Paw's taste in women. Very facially attractive girls. But he's into plastic tits for e.g. which are almost an immediate turn off for me. Vive la difference
PedroMorales
12-22-18, 15:00
The what's "hot / attractive" to Asian eyes.Rich Thai women have told me the AAsian spinners look like that as a punishment for what they got up to in a previous life. I asked an Isaan LBFM how many Thais she had serviced. The answer was one (tuk tuk drivers excluded).
All other factors kick in. Brown = working under the sun = poor. Africans like their heifers big and meaty. We like little Barbie dolls as we can look alpha.
One thing: poor women seem to be better animals in bed as richer sisters are trained not to let themselves go.
Observing what kind of women men choose while mongering tells you very little about their "taste" in women generally or what level of beauty they are used to enjoying in the real world back home.
Let's call it the Hugh Grant and Elizabeth Hurley vs Devine Brown Syndrome. LOL. Maybe do a Google Search on the names if you aren't familiar with that story. It is a common, classic human nature story, BTW.
It is entirely possible that Caucasian monger you see with less than beautiful dates married the Prom Queen back home or dated almost nothing but starlets, models and beauty contest winners. So he has had his fill of vacuous porcelein princesses and is now directing his "very good taste" in women in a different direction. Namely, more pleasures in the bed.
By contrast, it is entirely possible that Asian punter you see with "top quality" lookers could not get a girl above a 5 to so much as look at him in the real world back home. So now his mongering money is devoted to puchasing head-turners he can strut around in hopes of finally having someone at his side that will impress other men, the lousy sex he his getting with his expensive dates be damned.
Observing what kind of women men choose while mongering tells you very little about their "taste" in women generally or what level of beauty they are used to enjoying in the real world back home.
Let's call it the Hugh Grant and Elizabeth Hurley vs Devine Brown Syndrome. LOL. Maybe do a Google Search on the names if you aren't familiar with that story. It is a common, classic human nature story, BTW.
It is entirely possible that Caucasian monger you see with less than beautiful dates married the Prom Queen back home or dated almost nothing but starlets, models and beauty contest winners. So he has had his fill of vacuous porcelein princesses and is now directing his "very good taste" in women in a different direction. Namely, more pleasures in the bed.
By contrast, it is entirely possible that Asian punter you see with "top quality" lookers could not get a girl above a 5 to so much as look at him in the real world back home. So now his mongering money is devoted to puchasing head-turners he can strut around in hopes of finally having someone at his side that will impress other men, the lousy sex he his getting with his expensive dates be damned.This is an interesting, and apt observation, although I would be careful with generalizing / suggesting that most Asian punters have wives / gfs of "5" while farangs have "prom queens".
Even those kinds of rating are highly speculative. For e. G. I generally hate the typical "golfer" wife / GF. Most farang, especially Americans consider them the prototypical "prom queens".
This is an interesting, and apt observation, although I would be careful with generalizing / suggesting that most Asian punters have wives / gfs of "5" while farangs have "prom queens".
Even those kinds of rating are highly speculative. For e. G. I generally hate the typical "golfer" wife / GF. Most farang, especially Americans consider them the prototypical "prom queens".I don't think I was generalizing that way.
However, I will generalize in another way that applies to my point; the Japanese women I have dated were without a doubt the most sexually accommodating women I have had from any country. But I think Thai women by and large are better looking in body and face than Japanese women. So here we have Japanese punters choosing Thai P4P girls by putting a premium on their looks while at the same time the rap on them is they expect and demand far less sexually from their hookers than their Caucasian counterparts.
I do believe many of those Japanese dudes are buying here what they aren't used to getting in the real world back home in terms of better proprtioned bodies and more symetrical faces. And for the most part they are not particularly starving for great sex.
Mr Enternational
12-22-18, 17:36
The what's "hot / attractive" to Asian eyes. Or farang eyes. Etc is a speculative exercise in stupidity although one can have some fun playing it.
What does it really matter to the white guy who's happy with his girl's looks if the Asian guy thinks she's a dog?? (or monkey?) And vice versa?I agree. Makes no sense to chase after the next man's standard of beauty. That shit changes with the times and places and is purely subjective. In the western world fat women used to be the standard of beauty. It is still that way in many places in Africa.
I tend to like my Asians darker and my Latinas lighter. That is not to say that I shy away from either side. (Besides, my dad's family is darker, and my mom's family is lighter, so no prejudice from me.) I just go with the flow, not seeking out a single type. I like whoever likes me.
My first recollection of a Thai girl was when I was less than 10 years old and my uncle had a Penthouse magazine under his mattress. Inside, there was a dark skinned Thai chick and she looked so beautiful to me. On my roster I have chicks from ghostly white to dark chocolate around the world. There is nothing that makes one better than the other. Besides, monkeys are cute! Nobody ever goes around saying that was one ugly ass monkey.
Maybe your grandfathers didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground:
https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/
Maybe your grandfathers didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground
I hate seeing picks of supposedly "hot" women from yesteryear. More likely they were just raunchy types. Mostly very plain faces and too voluptuous for me. Fat thighs for example. Looks have changed a lot. I notice that more 20 YO girls can be better looking than they were when I was 20, even I have got much fussier. So I see the change of looks even since 40 years ago.
Why do I like exotic darker skinned slim model types with cute little upturned nose, and nice gap between the legs accentuating a peachy high ass? No idea why and who cares. Just that is what looks sexy to me.
Actually I have no prejudice against light skinned girls as long as not too pale. Ha ha. Light skinned red heads are more than acceptable, even with freckles.
Still great I can find young hot Thai girls (for my spec) that need me to fuck them (for economic reasons) but still can enjoy the sex too, even the guy is older than their father. Poorly educated, maybe low English, often single mothers where a 10 K per month waitress job is not enough to pay the bills and support other family members. They desperately need a sugar daddy or 3.
In general MPaw has fairly good taste but you can't get all pretty girls in a group pic. Of those latest pics, the first girl has ugly implants, and maybe only one or two of those girls in the whole set would interest me. Actually it is not easy to be sure from the odd still pic. The number of extremely pretty girls in any place is likely to be quite low, and heaps of average girls. Other places have heaps of below average girls. In second last set, I like the 2nd last girl in black, and maybe the pole dancer. Nongfar O.K. too. So that is a reasonable overlap. MP accepts obvious surgeries much more than I would, clearly. Surgeries can make girls look a little strange (unnatural plastic dolls) to me.
Billboard has a fairly hot line up but still I only find a small number to be really pretty. I think when I was 35, I was happy with any reasonable looking girl that wanted to fuck me, since coming from a bad situation in the home country made me easier to please.
I believe that having a pretty Thai GF with slim hot body for the last 13 years has helped reset my taste in Thai girls. I don't take average looking girls any more. They have to look special in some way and too many defects are hard to take. Only a certain amount of compromise becomes possible. Wearing a fucking condom is a big compromise already. Can I do a girl with body or face well behind the GF standard? Not really. Not that desperate to get the dick in a hole any more. More excitement is needed.
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Why do I like exotic darker skinned slim model types with cute little upturned nose, and nice gap between the legs accentuating a peachy high ass?
....I like the "high ass" look too. Upturned nose, upturned ass, upturned tits. And the void between the legs. Ideally you should be able to look at the sunset between a girl's thighs. The light triangle (different from the bush triangle). I'll post a real example of the high ass effect later in the foreign workers thread.
I tend to like my Asians darker and my Latinas lighter. That is not to say that I shy away from either side. (Besides, my dad's family is darker, and my mom's family is lighter, so no prejudice from me.) I just go with the flow, not seeking out a single type. I like whoever likes me.I am kind of the opposite. I like my Asians lily white and my Latinas and whites nicely tanned.
I am kind of the opposite. I like my Asians lily white and my Latinas and whites nicely tanned.Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, how a guy wanting white skin can like western girls tanned. Okay With Latinas you are probably stuck with dark skin, no choice, so that I can follow.
Western girls should not try to get tanned, dries out the skin and makes them age quickly, plus skin cancers etc. Most Asians are far more sensible and try to stay out of the sun. So their natural colours are acceptable to me.
I don't care about skin or hair colour much. The green girl Zoe Saldana in "Guardians of the Galaxy" or the blue Mystique (Rebbeca Romijn) with orange hair would be fine for me if smoothed out the skin so she does not look alien. Helps they have fab sleek but curvy bodies. Seven of 9, always fabulous for my taste, so sleek, slim face, cute little nose. Looks less alien than most of the Bangkok surgeries girls to me. Despite strange colours, these girls don't have weird noses or tits or chin, etc.
Not so keen on the new Mystique (Jennifer Lawrence). Not quite my type.
Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, how a guy wanting white skin can like western girls tanned.Does taste have to make sense?
PedroMorales
12-24-18, 11:51
Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, how a guy wanting white skin can like western girls tanned. Okay With Latinas you are probably stuck with dark skin, no choice, so that I can follow. Western girls should not try to get tanned, dries out the skin and makes them age quickly, plus skin cancers etc. Most Asians are far more sensible and try to stay out of the sun. So their natural colours are acceptable to me. I don't care about skin or hair colour much. .Like eggs, I prefer mine sunny side up. A perky bum, jauntily stuck up at a 45 degree angle to ease anal entry, then allowing her to lie down and on thee side before bonking her like a pin ball machine. Bonking from the back not only puts one in control but avoids having to look too long at the face or, indeed, to do a passport check.
My taste vary. Sometimes a strong legged woman who'd be good in the rice paddy if she could consider working for a living. Other times, a little snub nose Barbie type who'd be no good working in a rice paddy but who makes up for it by rodeo romping.
Much like alcohol. Cheap beer, cheap wine but good wine for good occasions.
Seven of 9, always fabulous for my taste, so sleek, slim face, cute little nose.Jeri Ryan (Seven of 9), one of my all time favourites. Stunning and a great actresses.
Jeri Ryan (Seven of 9), one of my all time favourites. Stunning and a great actresses.Mine too. But I always wondered what the other eight looked like.
It is entirely possible that Caucasian monger you see with less than beautiful dates married the Prom Queen back home or dated almost nothing but starlets, models and beauty contest winners. So he has had his fill of vacuous porcelein princesses and is now directing his "very good taste" in women in a different direction. Namely, more pleasures in the bed.
While I can understand somewhat, not the case for me. I expect all my Thai girls to be better looking than my ex Farang wife, and be more enjoyable on the bed as well. If they are pretty and have a fabulous sexy body, it helps with my enjoyment.
Of course many years ago I did experience the magic of some Thai girls in my own country, and soon realised I had a strong preference for Asian girls, unless the Farangs were exceptional (and out of my league). had been keen on a couple of Chinese girls not available to me too. In my own country Thai girl hookers performed sexually way better than Farang hooker girls on average, completely different attitude. Never had a bad fuck Japanese girl either (fairly small sample). Indo and Philippina girls also appealed to me.
Enjoyed one Indo girl umpteen times till she got deported back to her home country. Face and body 9 points each. A sexy dancer with attitude great. One could fall for her, she was so dreamy good. She was only supposed to provide sexy dance strip shows, but was a private room, so anything was possible if both wanted it. Did I want to go get a strip show from farang girls working at the same place? Nah! She was in a different league completely.
Before for I start, Monkeypaw would like to point out this simple fact. Some folks on here have been playing checkers, while the Paw has been playing chess. -SNIP
Looking at all the fish flavored candy and Blue Tongue Painter Lollipops that I have brought as gifts to give to the bar girls reminded me about those less fortunate than me on ISG. Anyways, if anybody walks into a bar and all the girls tongues are blue, Monkeypaw is somewhere nearby. So as a present to the others, some insightful thoughts and my very last mention of game. And that's a Monkeypaw promise.
Hi Guys.
I see a lot talk every now and then about having game when it comes to pulling hookers in Ago go's, Beer Bar's and other establishments in Pattaya! My idea with hookers is that all the game you need is money. I have a pal in Pattaya at the moment who has pulled a Hooters girl, now that is having game. My idea of game is getting laid for free by quality girls. My next trip is in February and I will be in Pattaya for 8 days and I am setting myself a target of 5 non hookers of any description, so that will exclude any payment other dinner, drinks and / or movie. I am in my late 50's not handsome, not fashionably dressed and over weight so if I pull this off I truly must have game. My target age group will be 20 to 30's but I will take on older ladies who are in good condition. Now I know I am going to get shouted down by some members and lectured by others about the true meaning of game in their eyes but those of us who don't have heads in dark places will appreciate my post. I acknowledge that you guys who live there get free girls all the time and so you should. I would love to hear other members idea regarding this subject as my friends and myself do chuckle when we read about having game when paying girls for sex.
Rob.Monkeypaw sees the hamster wheels trying to churn in the head and some logic maybe developing between the ears, but I still don't see a hamster. But you did ask for members' ideas regarding the subject, so of course, Monkeypaw has to chime in. The reason being is because I feel the need to not let people stay stupid no matter the circumstances. It's like somebody sticking a cellphone up their ass, thinking that's how booty calls are made. As funny as that is, I need to correct that behavior rather just laugh and ignore it.
Game.
1. You mentioned "all the game you need is money. " So if I gave 3000 baht to a naked, mute, illiterate, smelly, dirty homeless man, he will have no issues paying girls for sex for short time? He has money, so is it still a no brainer? But wait, what about his clothes, hygiene, being able to read and speak English, Thai, or whatever? Everything I just mentioned can be done better by the next person. And the better it's done, the stronger their game. It becomes their "style. " Build on that style consistently, then you have a "reputation. " Your reputation is your game. Ask yourself, "Who am I?
2. Gamesmanship (per Wikipedia) is described as "whatever dubious methods possible to achieve the desired end. " So, yes, even conversations and lies are a part of game, if to gets you the desired results. To get paid sex from hookers (your desired end result), you are saying no lies or hustle is needed and that you are in full transparency? No wife, no girlfriend, no kids, no friends to play game with or to tell lies? Remember, "whatever dubious methods to achieve the desired end. " If you have to lie to someone, anyone, in order to have sex with the girl, it's a part of the game. Deal with it. You are in the game and may not even know it.
3. But you are somewhat right, show them the cash and it's almost a guarantee that "somebody" will fuck you. But you realize that is just a fact of life right and has to do nothing with P4 P? Yes, that's P as in "play," as in a game to be played. Also, who that "somebody" is or what she (perhaps he) looks like or "how" they will fuck you, well that's all up to how much game you have. Can't have an outcall escort without hotel or home, but you can still get pay a street crack working girl to go behind the bushes. See what I mean? Same logic as guys thinking the nicer the hotel, the nicer the girl. As long as you don't feel stupid or any regrets, no worries there on "who" fucks you. I don't judge.
4. But keep in mind, there are those who get constantly fucked over in life with game, that don't even know they are getting screwed in the ass with no lube. A guy who gets married for "love" to one girl, for better or for worse, will eventually realize, that the devil and society played one of the biggest games on him. He just just signed a contract for the most expensive hooker in his life. So still thinking no need for game? Because it takes game to recognize game. That's where ignorance is bliss comes from. So the question that needs to be answered is that is there such a thing as being so stupid that you don't even know you are stupid?
As for Thailand, just having money alone doesn't allow everybody to (correct me if I am wrong) 1. Go inside any bar 2. Select the hottest girl 3. Pay the barfine for her and 4. Go then get to fuck her. This is what the "ID" part of your mind wants, your instinctual behaviors that you "think" you are entitled to the best. I got money, no game is needed, I can fuck all hot girls. Then, there is a thing called "ego", meaning your own sense of self and who you actually are, that will kick in and limit you. Perhaps, you start hearing a little voice questioning, "what if" she doesn't like me, my looks are not okay, she is trying to hustle me, or she has another customer? Insecurities kick in because there is such a thing as "rejection" and "competition", and that shit is well alive and happens. At at that moment, you will look around the bar at other customers, and start second guessing that perhaps the lady at the currency exchange booth may have ripped you off. For some reason, there is a YMMV note attached to the 3000 baht in your wallet because it's not worth the same as another guy's. I have the money, so what the fuck is up? Did I fly half way across the world to get rejected in a 3rd world country by a bunch of poor rice farmers' daughters who won't take my money? Could have saved me the trouble if my standards and expectations were lowered. Now, this is your "super ego" or conscience is speaking to you. That's what is called the voice of reason and sense. It's your choice to listen to it or not. But keep ignoring that voice, and your life keeps sucking and perhaps it get worse.
SNIP- Trying to describe the night with MonkeyPaw (Banana Boy had to bail) is impossible. When he arrived he was so excited to be back on WS that we skipped dinner and headed straight to Windmill, as the main clubs had not yet open. People don't flock to him, but he commands attention by his personality and his willingness to engage people, tip them and take care of them. I have no idea if his stories are true or are pure BS or somewhere in the middle. As long as he treats people well when I am around, I will let him be whatever he is or wants to be. At the least, he is entertaining and he never ignored me nor put a hoe before me. Regardless of his true story, the dude has Game. He immediately found the (subjectively) hottest girl there, and she was so hot (subjectively, in my opinion) I can't believe she would be working there. -SNIP So my final thought on game is this. So if you got game, you will always get the hotter girl. See quote above. If you have Monkeypaw type game, you get them all. Lucky for you guys, Monkeypaw shares, just like with the girl (blonde in skirt pictured) in the above quote. I'm sure FL Hawk has already attested, that the Paw will give you when and whatever he wants to give you. But you first, have to break your own ego, ask and it's still up to me. Stay away from the top end go go bars if you have no clue about what game and hustle is. The hotter girls will always be out of reach for you unless you feel like getting fucked with no lube, but the uglier ones will be available. Stick to the lower end establishments that is fitting for your own level of play that requires little to no smarts because the girls themselves have little to no smarts. Now, if you or anybody else think no game is needed for the better looking girls at the bars, and that everybody's money counts as the same amount. Let's hang out. I'll be in Pattaya and Bangkok from the end of December until mid February 2019. Come sit down next to me at a club and let me pick your girl. Don't worry, most guys say I have very good taste in girls and she will be one of the top girls in the bar. If she agrees to fuck you, I'll pay for her. If she doesn't, you pay for only my drinks. If you think it's a set up between the Paw and the girl, my drinks usually total around only 1000 baht, not enough for a girl lose out on the 3000 baht for herself if she goes with you. All they care about is the money right? It should be easy because "all the game you need is money. " And technically, you don't even need that, because it's going to be Monkeypaw's money. So any takers? By the way, you can always ask Lew or Phazze93, both young, Asian, and had bigger wallets than Monkeypaw, if rejection and the need for game is REAL. But like I said before, plan X, why, Z is always available if A through W doesn't pan out. But it's okay to keep doing whatever you are doing, because Monkeypaw needs to be entertained by others than just the go go bar girls. If you've ever enjoy sitting at Thermae and watching the "dynamics," interactions and guys failing, I think you know what I mean.
Free Sex.
Secondly, you mentioned "My idea of game is getting laid for free by quality girls. As my friends and myself do chuckle when we read about having game when paying girl for sex. " You are 50 something years old. You should be wise as fuck by now. Why haven't you realize yet, that there is no such thing as free sex? Did you just descend from the Heavens one morning with a pocket full of cash that you didn't have to work for and flew to Thailand on your invisible angel wings? There are costs and expenditures associated with you just being alive and in your present situation. I'll make it easier for you to understand. Is the sex from a wife or girlfriend really free? Or are there other costs associated with marriage that needs to be accounted for? Still don't quite understand? I want to invite you to a free dinner in Hong Kong in which Monkeypaw will pay the bill for you to eat. All you have to do is show up at the restaurant. So how free is that Big Mac and fries now? If you still think the meal is free from cost, then you might as well encourage guys to get married, for all the free sex of a lifetime. And I apologize if you already fell victim to that bullshit already. But, that's the same nonsense logic that you portray to those who can think on a higher level. The moment you bust your little nut, your head will clear. Start adding up all the money spent, work done, and time invested for that single moment of reward. It wasn't free was it? Because there is no such thing as free sex, only cheaper sex like Mr. E correctly points out. So you and your friends may "chuckle when reading about having game when paying for girls for sex," but I find it even more silly, that guys would pay 1000 dollars or more plus hotel and accommodations, to fly to Thailand to have sex with homely looking girls, even for "free. " When you are finished with your trip, add up the total costs from beginning to end for everything that was necessary for you to get the sex. Yes, even the clothes on your back, unless you showed up naked to meet them and had sex in the clouds in the sky. Divide that amount by the total number of girls you fucked. Then visualize the faces and bodies of those girls. If you have pics, that's the best. Match each of those girl's photos with the dollar amount configured for each. Then ask yourself, I paid this much for that? That's how much you know whether God loves you or the devil has your soul. Only person I know that has free sex is me. I don't work and don't even know where my money comes from. I am unable to associate the cash I spend to any earnings or work that I have done in my lifetime. So yep, it's all free for me because I am free from this world. And, if you were wondering, my favorite color is still blue.
2. My "Game Plan," My Reward, My Experiences.
"However with members like MP, game is pulling the most in demand go go girls and yes he is paying them. In my opinion, game is getting free pussy without paying the girl but have you ever thought about another aspect of this so called "game"? What about pulling a hot working girl, paying her but getting exactly what you want from her. For example, one punter bar fines a hot girl, pays the premium price and gets a starfish. Another punter pulls the same girl but gets a true GFE in the sense of BBFS, CIP, CIM, and maybe pays a lower price. This in my opinion is also "game". Anyways, at the end of the day, I could give a rats ass about Game. My goal is to fuck hot girls and get them to do what I want and have a blast doing it. ".
"I don't know what MPs success rate is at getting girls to do what he wants. He mostly talks about how his game is number 1 and he gets to be with the top rated girls in the bars. But his "Game Plan" as you so call it, in my opinion, will get you the top rated girls but it won't get you what you want in the bedroom on a consistent basis. Show me a punter who can get the top rated girls and get them to do everything that he wants in the bedroom such as BBFS, CIP, CIM and so on and then I will listen to him. I am 80% of my way there but haven't reached that 100% success rate yet but I am having fun trying and getting what I want most of the time. ".
My Game Plan.
Looking at those two quotes above by BKKDog, apparently Monkeypaw has definitely got a fan that desperately needs some of my attention. Funny thing here is that my "game plan" is just my life. Nothing written, nothing set in stone, and I wing the rest of it time. There are those who can try to mimic some aspects of it, but they can never be me. To be honest, the truth about my life is probably too much for anyone to bear. So my game plan is really having no game plan. It's my style, my aura, my reputation, and the image of how others (whose opinions matter) perceive me. That's it. All I know is that everywhere I go, I command attention and respect when it's warranted. Thats' why I get treated differently. I can sit in a bar for 30 minutes and buy one drink and not be thought of as a Cheapie Charlie. My conversations get listened to and I know how to bring out other's emotions, while keeping mine so calm. Everybody, who knows me in person, can confirm "Monkeypaw has a shit load of game. " If we go back to the definition of game or gamesmanship as "whatever dubious methods possible to achieve the desired end. " Substitute out the word "methods" with "knowledge, skills, and abilities. " All of it then reads like this, "Monkeypaw has a shit load of dubious knowledge, skills, and abilities possible to achieve the desired end. " Meaning simply, if I use my mind, my game, there is a good chance that whatever I desire will happen. So if I target something, more than likely it's going to be a bullseye. Scary isn't it? Aren't you happy my favorite color is still blue?
My Reward.
So what has all this game has gotten me as a reward?
1. Being #1 at Palace, the #1 go go bar in all of Thailand. That, itself, means I have enough game to do something, no other has claimed to do. Think about that and what it means to win against the girls at Palace. Beat them, meaning if you can take out the top 15 hottest girls at Palace (according to the girls) and fuck them for the standard amount, you pretty much can do whatever you want with the rest of the go go bar world.
2. And on top of that, Monkeypaw has done that for not only Palace, but all the top bars with all the top girls on Walking Street, Nana, and Soi Cowboy. Then for extra padding, all the pretty dancing girls below the trophy ones. And of course, not to be out done by getting all the rest of the girls at the bars with a decent face and decent body as well. So unless she is fat, ugly, too old, or sloppy, there is a good chance Monkeypaw has fucked her already.
3. I still am able to point, click, choose, and fuck girls at a 99.9% success rate without rejection and on the first try. Why does nobody find this amazing besides me? There is only one person I know that can walk into any go go bar, find out the the top or best looking one in the bar at that time, and it's a done deal. I know of no other guy being able to do this in my circle (guys with a shit load of money and / or status), or any other circle. I have had girls ask me, "No other guy gets away with this shit, how do I do it?" If you have this ability as well, come on let's go hang out and enjoy our powers together hunting girls. Or is it just only me?
4. Monkeypaw is the trophy for the girls. I've been told this is the conversation the girls have with each other when I find new talent at a bar. One girl will tell the other one, "If he asks to barfine you, you should go with him. " The new girl will ask, "Why?" The other girl will say, "They say he is nice, not cheap, and known for taking only the prettiest girls. " And that's how and why all the top girls, whether new or old, come flocking to the Paw. Once the girls know you have taste, it's all good. I warn people all the time about taking an ugly girl on the first try from a bar You are tainted afterwards. You honestly think that the best looking girl will go with you, knowing you have no taste? Stick with hot girls and you keep getting hot girls. It's like dating all the ugly Bettys in high school then trying to ask out the head cheerleader next. If you are like Monkeypaw, you can work your way down from the top, instead of trying to start at the bottom. But even I know, I don't want to venture down too far or it ruins my reputation. That's when you can always pretend you are drunk and can't see straight. I'll just pass.
5. And if Monkeypaw is #1 at this game at the go go bars, everything else from Thermae, gent clubs, night clubs, on downwards to soapies, Thai Friendly or whatever, where not a lot of game is needed, is ALL available to the Paw. Meaning, if I visited those places which I may have already, I will get the best they have to offer as well, and not have to spend the most. Why? Because nobody plays better than those trophy girls at Palace. And unless you have accomplished the whole #1 at Palace thing, you cannot ever fathom what the Paw is saying. Simply stated, Monkeypaw at anytime can play with any of your girls, but you can not necessarily play with all of the ones he's gotten before. No wonder some of you guys are hiding those stunners in your pockets and not sharing. And all this time, the Paw has been so unselfish to identify and share with the whole board. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.
Speaking of sharing, thanks Greenbud for pointing out #300 (hugging the bear) from Tantra as having a hot body. You guys keep pointing out the hot girls at the go go bars, Monkeypaw will keep knocking them out. Monkeypaw was able to fuck #300 and the pussy was tight. I've included a pic of her with her hair all messed up from being freshly fucked. See even the Paw has made the time to give credit when good info was sent his way and shared. Enjoy.
SNIP - At Soi 6, it seems the first price all the girls ask for is 1000 Baht for short time (for standard stuff). I'm wondering what percentage will accept 700. I just hate to negotiate with girls that will suck my dick, especially for $9 USD.
- Note: For my girl rating scale, I use a Bell curve. For all you non-engineering geeks out there, the shape of the curve is a bell. Most of the girls are average, around a 5. Very few high scores.
- IMO, many of the girls on Soi 6 are on the ugly side. Checked last month and the last 2 days around 3 PM. There are 5's around; only a few 6's; no 7's.
- At WS Tantra go-go, many 6's. I thought Nos. 129, 140, 242, 300, and 304 are 7's. I thought No. 322 is a 7.5. I liked the body of No. 300.
- At Infinity, I thought No. 403 is a 7. IMO, she's about 10 pounds overweight, although many people like the full figure type. I prefer skinny. I slipped a 20 Baht bill in her bikini, and I fondled her breast. She liked it (the money I assumed, LOL), and she gave me a wai. For less than a dollar! That's why I love Pattaya.So if you think about it, those 1 through 5 rewards listed above (there are more greater ones, but nobody on Earth will understand), are still fucking amazing. What else would anybody want? What's hilarious is the backlash that I often get from others who can't even get the attention of the top girls. But what about this girl? What about that one? What about this bar? What about that club? Did you fuck all of them? To make better sense of how silly those questions sound. It's like walking along with Mike Tyson, in his prime, through downtown New York and pointing at random strangers and asking, "bet you can't kick his ass, or his ass, or his ass over there. " Or even better, It's like God defeating the Satan, but now, all the other demons are saying you haven't taken on me, or this one, or that one. Shit becomes pointless. Go back to trying to understand what the concept of being "#1 at the #1" truly means. I reign over Palace like a King, but I'm too smart to know it's better to just be the Prince, in order to play and have my fun.
My Experiences.
The best advice some of the senior members have told me is that, "There really is nothing that anybody on the board can tell you or offer when to comes to girls. You already get the best, hottest, and prettiest girls. " So the only thing left for them to question or attack is "he might get the hottest girls, but what kind of experience does Monkeypaw get?" Other posters can easily see through that line of questioning.
You may have extrapolated my words. That happens when you are consumed by your own thinking, lack empathy, quit listening, and see the world with colored glasses. Very sad. What I meant by real deal is that he gets the hottest girls to go with him. The ones that will not cast a second glance at the old fogeys, even if they would shower the girls with drinks, tips, etc. And these girls will then throw themselves at him, fight over him and take pride in being selected by him. Anyone can be questioned about what happens inside the room. I am not getting that far.The answer is, "I can get any experience that I want. " It's all about how much game, money, and time, I want to invest in each girl. " I am in control of most of my experiences. If you want to know what I'm talking about, then do it yourself. Go to the top clubs and take out all the top hottest girls one by one by one. When you've reach that point, we will be in the same level and you will understand everything without me having to explain it all. For now, it's like me talking to a bunch of 3 year olds about the reality of Christmas, Jesus, and Santa Claus. We are not on the same playing level, so it all will not make sense. And since, I do this shit almost every day, Monkeypaw has grown so much spiritually, since I started playing. I'm at the point where I can easily choose the girl, any girl at the bars without fear of rejection. With a civilian, more lies have to be told, which I rather not do. I don't enjoy lying or breaking hearts. So this is where my "super ego," my conscience, always kicks in. I come from a better place. You can moan and whine that you think Monkeypaw has a self inflated ego. But even then, you sound very stupid. A self inflated ego is all about yourself, no empathy towards others, and selfishness to your own needs. Yet here is Monkeypaw, a single guy, not married, no kids, no wife or girlfriend to deceive. I take first world money and spend it in a third world country, repeatedly doing charity. I am not cheap and often spread the wealth. Want to call it ego because I throw money to even the poor ugly girls by making it rain in the club? I call it charity. I love myself enough to try to reward myself with the best looking girls, in the safest manner to protect my health, my body, my mind, and the girl, without trying to sacrifice too much pleasure and enjoyment. Then on top of that, I share with others who don't share with me. So all that sounds like a selfish person, right? It only sounds like narcissism because deep down, your inner spirit recognizes what I am. That inner spirit of yours is a little angry. It's best to keep it in check because "the good" always win out. Now because I've learned play that way, and since somebody asked, these are the exceptional experiences for myself that I've gotten, while growing as a player in this game.
1. Indescribable bliss without even needing to have sex or be touched, where it feels as if your soul is being lifted from your body and nothing matters anymore. A state of pure happiness, euphoria, and energy. I felt as if I was one with the universe. It was nice that I had a naked girl next to me, but even then, her existence didn't matter anymore. - This is my secret.
2. Sex for 4 hours straight with two girls, pure adrenaline, with constant dopamine and serotonin release, no tiredness, and my body felt as if was floating, while our bodies were melting in one another the whole time. Every moment felt as if I was having an orgasm with every touch and there was no need to even cum. It felt that good for all 4 hours. - This too is my secret.
3. I can cum twice without a refractory period. That means I can cum again in "less than one minute" apart from the first ejaculation because my dick stays rock hard for minutes after. The second one is always more explosive in cum and 10 times more intense that it makes me scream and shiver. Think about that, two orgasm less than one minute apart.
4. I can cum when I want to, whether it's 2 minutes or 2 hours or not even. I have control over when to shoot my load.
5. I can cum in a condom regularly, no problem.
6. I can regularly make the girls cum, no problem.
7. And of course, with history, I have done everything else that most of you guys "relish," like BBFS, CIM, GFE, PSE, 5-somes, bondage, toys, plus much much more. By the way GFE is not what she does. I hope you know that by now. GFE is a "feeling" you get. DFK, BBBJ, BBFS does not constitute real GFE. That can only be felt as if a girl is really into you, connected, and that none of what she does is for show or extra tip. Hard to explain unless you've felt it before. Just saying.
So technically, for the experience, I can choose 1-7 or a combination of those every time I have sex with a girl or two. Trust me, if you've ever experience 1 and 2, you would care less about anything else on that list. So my take is that since there are some guys who can't get the prettiest girls at the go bars to pay attention to them, they get a little butt hurt. So now they need to direct their attention to BBFS. When has this been the "standard of service" that everybody should be striving for in a country like Thailand with such a high prevalance HIV? There is also research data online that suggests HIV prevalences among female sex workers, as high as 20% in Bangkok and the prevalence of STDs amongst the clients (the johns) of female sex workers in Thailand is as high as 26%. Scary numbers to want to keep taking chances if you ask me. Next thing you know, the same guys who suggest BBFS as the standard for an excellent experience, will say I bet you can't get to be the girl's boyfriend, then after that is marry them, then after that is have a kid with them. See if you can do all that Monkeypaw. Come on, how stupid does that shit sound? I'm too smart for that shit to fall down to your level. Let me stick with just being a "playboy" and getting all the hottest and prettiest girls that are tough to play with. Let me also stick with my own rewards and experiences above. If you think you have accomplished something by having BBFS with weak minded prostitutes, especially while having a girlfriend or being married, the more power to you. Just sounds a little silly to me, that's all. To the Paw, it just means that you know your limits in life, and that you cannot play with the smarter people. Hardly impressive to Monkeypaw. But it also means that if you ever run into someone who has more game than you, that person will have you doing flips like a trained dog and you wouldn't even know what's happening. But you keep doing your thing, I've just grown beyond that and try to resist even though it's available to me. I just love myself that much to take care of myself. Besides I've seen many people die of AIDS while volunteering at AIDS hospice in Houston. It's like when I stopped eating red meat because I've seen what goes on in slaughterhouses. Nothing nice, all gruesome. And there were the times, I tested myself after a few BBFS excursions in the past, my stress level was so high each time I went to draw blood. I can't imagine people wanting to put themselves through all the stress and anxiety to test themselves over and over again because they can't control their urges. Glad I'm not alone in these sentiments.
For me condom use is a no brainer. Too many incurable STDs going around. For guys who already have an untreatable STD I suppose they think its ok to have bareback sex.I play this game with some level of respect for myself and for others. Are some that weak or perhaps, they just enjoy preying on the weak? Unless, all of this talk about BBFS is nothing but a ploy or smokescreen, to get newbie guys to make fools of themselves because misery loves company. It's like a bunch of old "has beens," who cannot get the girls they want, got together and said, "Our time is up. Let's encourage guys to walk into bars with fake doctor notes stating they are STD free and demanding BBFS from the girls. " Also let's get everybody to just ask the girls in advance, from ThaiFriendly, Nana, Soi Cowboy, Walking Street, and Thermae, will they do BBFS with CIP? Use your common sense here. If I didn't know any better, that type of behavior will get a guy "labeled" because these girls in this industry, know each other and they do share info and talk about customers. Once a guy is marked, labeled, and jacketed as unsafe and dirty, the best girls avoid him. That means less competition for me, if all along I just wanted all the top girls for myself. The more fools out there, the better it is for me. The top girls didn't get to be the best because they go out spreading their legs to fuck without a condom and to cum inside their pussy. So with that, let me stick to my BBBJ and CIM as the barest I would ever want to go to minimize the risks. Everything else in the bedroom let me keep to myself as my own heaven or hell to live out. And everyday, I thank God for showing me who I am not. My favorite color is still blue.
To be continued.
Game.A question for you, can you have "game" without sufficient money to get the top girls?
Engine Driver
12-29-18, 22:23
A question for you, can you have "game" without sufficient money to get the top girls?I'm sorry to say this, but "game" is worth jack shit when applied to prostitutes. Although the "pick up" information is amusing to read, if Mr Paw was really that talented, he would be getting hot looking girls in London, New York and Houston for the price of a cocktail and dinner. I'm talking about educated girls with proper jobs who aren't prostitutes. Why fly half way around the world to pick up barely literate, rice farmers' daughters in a sleazy go go bar to prove how good you are?
Mr Paw's theory also fails to take into account that the majority of punters don't necessarily want to pick up the hottest hooker from Palace. They don't need the stress and are perfectly happy banging a 6.
I know good looking guys who like picking up SWs in my country who have hot wives or girlfriends at home. Remember Hugh Grant and Divine Brown? And that was when he was dating Liz Hurley who would have been a 10. If you read Mr E's book on life, just fuck anything that moves. He seems to be having a better time than anyone.
Mr Enternational
12-29-18, 23:49
If you read Mr E's book on life, just fuck anything that moves. He seems to be having a better time than anyone.What is all this talk about moving? My motto is a hole and a heartbeat; heartbeat optional.
Engine Driver
12-30-18, 03:17
Monkeypaw sees the hamster wheels trying to churn in the head and some logic maybe developing between the ears, but I still don't see a hamster. But you did ask for members' ideas regarding the subject, so of course, Monkeypaw has to chime in. The reason being is because I feel the need to not let people stay stupid no matter the circumstances. It's like somebody sticking a cellphone up their ass, thinking that's how booty calls are made. As funny as that is, I need to correct that behavior rather just laugh and ignore it.
Your constant use of illeism to signal your power and status is getting a little tiresome man.
Maybe the average punter is happy to just bumble along without eating the tasty treats at the top go go bars. Who gives a fuck?
Pointy Stick
12-30-18, 03:39
Agreed. Its like a successful HLS educated guy going to some trailer park and picking up a meth addicted white trash chick and somehow proclaiming this is the height of game. Game is only worthwhile if it achieves a notable objective. For these girls selling fishball noodle soup by the side of the road would propel them up a social class.
Why fly half way around the world to pick up barely literate, rice farmers' daughters in a sleazy go go bar to prove how good you are?
Your constant use of illeism to signal your power and status is getting a little tiresome man.
Maybe the average punter is happy to just bumble along without eating the tasty treats at the top go go bars. Who gives a fuck?You don't have to read MP reports. I don't, because I don't like the style and delusions of grandeur. Likewise some hate my reports and don't have to read them.
I like factual reports with not much imagination, but a little bit of subtle humour. Nic Frenchy was the master at writing useful but amusing reports in the past. Unfortunately we don't all have the talents to be that amusing. e.g. irony or sarcasm, trying to be funny, does not work for me as a reader.
Read those posters that provide something useful, at least some of the time. It may well be as little as a suggested venue for finding hot girls, or what sort of behaviours are tolerated and considered O.K.
I find it amusing that anyone has time to type 2 paragraph report when on the ground, so how much time in someone's lonely existence can they find time to write their version of "Mein Kamph"?
Money, Power and Influence but very sad and lonely.
Banana Boi
12-30-18, 08:08
Depends how quickly you can type. I can type around 90 words per minute.
imo a Live Update when you are actually in a bar is the most useful thing. It tells me if I should go to that bar or not that evening. A guy followed my Live Update to check out Thermae last week and he thanked me for it because there were a ton of girls that night. If someone told me Kinnaree was crap the other day while they were there would have saved me 500 baht in taxi.
I find it amusing that anyone has time to type 2 paragraph report when on the ground, so how much time in someone's lonely existence can they find time to write their version of "Mein Kamph"?His version of Mein Kampf would probably be called My Game, LOL.
O shit, maybe I gave him inspiration now.
Observing what kind of women men choose while mongering tells you very little about their "taste" in women generally or what level of beauty they are used to enjoying in the real world back home.
Let's call it the Hugh Grant and Elizabeth Hurley vs Devine Brown Syndrome. LOL. Maybe do a Google Search on the names if you aren't familiar with that story. It is a common, classic human nature story, BTW.
It is entirely possible that Caucasian monger you see with less than beautiful dates married the Prom Queen back home or dated almost nothing but starlets, models and beauty contest winners. So he has had his fill of vacuous porcelein princesses and is now directing his "very good taste" in women in a different direction. Namely, more pleasures in the bed.
By contrast, it is entirely possible that Asian punter you see with "top quality" lookers could not get a girl above a 5 to so much as look at him in the real world back home. So now his mongering money is devoted to puchasing head-turners he can strut around in hopes of finally having someone at his side that will impress other men, the lousy sex he his getting with his expensive dates be damned.My GF at home, when made up, is a 10. But she makes me work. It's my job to please her.
Here, I like one that's my style and takes care of me for the 5 minutes I need LOL.
I find it amusing that anyone has time to type 2 paragraph report when on the ground, so how much time in someone's lonely existence can they find time to write their version of "Mein Kamph"?
Some guys are bored and nothing better to do. No work to be done. Not currently in a knock shop. Maybe not even in Bangkok or Pattaya. I could be bored even when at home with Thai Mrs. As she is not a clingy type and doing her own thing.
Personally I prefer a post with some information detail. The worst posts for me are a smart ass one liner like in Twitter. I am not on Twitter at all, naturally. I once posted on a German forum, and was criticised by the moderator for rather short "twitter like" posts. My German was not good enough to write extensively, so I gave only essential info on the girl and venue.
Anyway, obviously most of us are not constantly in bars and MPs. Not on sex holiday either. Mongering opportunities can be infrequent, and even 4 times a week is not frequent.
I'm sorry to say this, but "game" is worth jack shit when applied to prostitutes. Although the "pick up" information is amusing to read, if Mr Paw was really that talented, he would be getting hot looking girls in London, New York and Houston for the price of a cocktail and dinner. I'm talking about educated girls with proper jobs who aren't prostitutes. Why fly half way around the world to pick up barely literate, rice farmers' daughters in a sleazy go go bar to prove how good you are?
Mr Paw's theory also fails to take into account that the majority of punters don't necessarily want to pick up the hottest hooker from Palace. They don't need the stress and are perfectly happy banging a 6.
I know good looking guys who like picking up SWs in my country who have hot wives or girlfriends at home. Remember Hugh Grant and Divine Brown? And that was when he was dating Liz Hurley who would have been a 10. If you read Mr E's book on life, just fuck anything that moves. He seems to be having a better time than anyone.What happens for MP personally behind closed doors as a result of his game/pick up methods is anyone's guess. But the evidence for him being incapable of influencing or transfering those methods to anyone tagging along with him in the Thai P4P scene keeps mounting.
We fairly recently got the two latest detailed reports from fellows who tagged along with him and might have benefited from stray Magic Pixie Dust landing on them. But there was no evidence of it in their reports.
One was a horror story of a repeated waste of thousands of baht with no rewarding sexual conclusion in sight until he went on his own to the place most likely to find it for very little baht anyway; Soi 6 in Pattaya.
The other one merely demonstrated that if you are young, fit, Asian and willing to spend a lot af baht, you too might be able to score fully covered, far from True GFE (imo) sessions with some of the handful of really good looking girls in a few Walking Street go-go bars.
In both cases, no Magic Pixie Dust worked or appeared to be required.
To be fair, there is no one with Magic Pixie Dust for the Thai P4P scene who can make great things happen for others if they just tag along and follow, imo.
Engine Driver
12-31-18, 05:33
What happens for MP personally behind closed doors as a result of his game/pick up methods is anyone's guess. But the evidence for him being incapable of influencing or transfering those methods to anyone tagging along with him in the Thai P4P scene keeps mounting.
We fairly recently got the two latest detailed reports from fellows who tagged along with him and might have benefited from stray Magic Pixie Dust landing on them. But there was no evidence of it in their reports.
One was a horror story of a repeated waste of thousands of baht with no rewarding sexual conclusion in sight until he went on his own to the place most likely to find it for very little baht anyway; Soi 6 in Pattaya.
The other one merely demonstrated that if you are young, fit, Asian and willing to spend a lot af baht, you too might be able to score fully covered, far from True GFE (imo) sessions with some of the handful of really good looking girls in a few Walking Street go-go bars.
In both cases, no Magic Pixie Dust worked or appeared to be required.
To be fair, there is no one with Magic Pixie Dust for the Thai P4P scene who can make great things happen for others if they just tag along and follow, imo.Let's debunk Mr Paw's claims even further. Syzygies mentioned that the top girls at the top go go bars are pulling in 150,000 THB a month. This is entirely feasible, but it means they are giving their tonsils and pussies are fairly good workout. With a combination of salary, drink commissions and about 20 bar fines, they would get there. Now if these girls were so particular about who they went with and only waited for professional pick up artists with "game" like Mr Paw to enter the scene and to woo them, they'd starve to death. I haven't included sponsorship income as we will never know the extent of this, and in any case, it is rather fickle.
Ego also affects these girls in a bad way. This is a natural response when everyone is telling them how beautiful they are, the fact they are earning a fortune (by Thai standards) each month and they have a contact list for hundreds of wealthy foreign suitors. While they might accept a barfine, whether they are going to provide GFE, BBBJ CIM, BBFS CIP etc back in the room is questionable. Only Mr Paw knows whether this actually happened. My experience in banging hundreds of Asian hookers over 30 years is that the average looking girls (6-7) consistently provide the best experience. The truly beautiful ones (9-10) rarely deliver (except of course in Burgos Street!) as they firmly believe their shit doesn't stink.
Mr Enternational
12-31-18, 05:36
To be fair, there is no one with Magic Pixie Dust for the Thai P4P scene who can make great things happen for others if they just tag along and follow, imo.I have always said to walk up to them and say lets go fuck. That is what they are there for. Buying them all kinds of drinks and shit gets you the same thing as the pixie dust.
The Paw's methods have been witnessed by credible posters here. They have confirmed he has a unique style (game). His photos offer proof that he gets top girls. If nothing else his reports are entertaining. Just enjoy them or skip past them. Don't take your self so seriously that you feel the need to debunk his claims. If you feel the need to debunk or challenge his claims, I say congratulations. You have been monkeypawed.
While they might accept a barfine, whether they are going to provide GFE, BBBJ CIM, BBFS CIP etc back in the room is questionable. Only Mr Paw knows whether this actually happened. .I don't think he ever bragged about this. In my opinion, he is quite humble about it. Maybe that is why he is contantly talking about "game".
the average looking girls (6-7) consistently provide the best experience.I think MP will agree with you on this but he is bored and got too much time on his hands.
The truly beautiful ones (9-10) rarely deliver (except of course in Burgos Street!) as they firmly believe their shit doesn't stink.My understanding from reading is that he is trying to improve his statistic and get the truly beautiful ones to deliver the best experience. I will probably make the same choice as you but he is free to do what he pleases with his time.
I have always said to walk up to them and say lets go fuck. That is what they are there for. Buying them all kinds of drinks and shit gets you the same thing as the pixie dust.Could not agree more. Any more effort than that is too much.
The Paw's methods have been witnessed by credible posters here. They have confirmed he has a unique style (game). His photos offer proof that he gets top girls. If nothing else his reports are entertaining. Just enjoy them or skip past them. Don't take your self so seriously that you feel the need to debunk his claims. If you feel the need to debunk or challenge his claims, I say congratulations. You have been monkeypawed.Not really. There is always value in questioning questionable claims. And there is knowledge to be shared by identifying, challenging and debunking suspected hogwash. MonkeyPaw serves a purpose in acheiving those ends. He doesn't have to, of course. But it seems he just can't help himself.
I have always said to walk up to them and say lets go fuck. That is what they are there for. Buying them all kinds of drinks and shit gets you the same thing as the pixie dust.How does this work out for you? I'm not being facetious. It's a legitimate question.
Given all the chatter about dressing appropriately, Game etc, if a average male walks up to a stunner in a GoGo carrying the price of entry and asks point blank, what's the chance of success?
Using the direct approach with 10's has never been terribly successful for me elsewhere so I'm keen to hear others' experience in LOS.
Mr Enternational
01-01-19, 03:44
How does this work out for you? I'm not being facetious. It's a legitimate question.
Given all the chatter about dressing appropriately, Game etc, if a average male walks up to a stunner in a GoGo carrying the price of entry and asks point blank, what's the chance of success?
Using the direct approach with 10's has never been terribly successful for me elsewhere so I'm keen to hear others' experience in LOS.LOL. I have never gotten that. Well that is a lie; actually I have. I used to go to the hooker spot in Rio with a suit and crocodile shoes on. Soon I was in shorts and flip flops telling the doorman to let me in because I am a regular.
Me and my wingman were going around Pattaya all day and it came time to go to the disco. I mentioned something about going to take a shower and putting on nicer clothes. He said man I am not about to get dressed up for hookers. He was right. Since then I have been wearing shorts and flip flops just like he was.
As mongers, it seems we are trying to buy into a fantasy. But as I always say, the girls know why they are there, but it seems we do not. We are trying to apply real world pick up principles to a horehouse, which is ridiculous. They are there for the money, not your cologne or nice clothes. (Has a chick in Kinnaree ever told anyone in here that they would not go to the room with them?)
If a chick does not want to go with you, then she does not want to go with you. Your clothes or how many drinks you have bought do not have shit to do with it.
I was in Florida and another board member took me to a strip club. I cut to the chase with the girl and asked her how much to come to the hotel. She told me to go to the back room and get some private dances first and we can discuss it later. (I equate that to buying lady drinks.) I said I am not that stupid. Why am I going to go in the back room and spend the money that I could be giving you to fuck?
That is the same way guys spend all this money on drinks then find out the chick will not come with them for whatever reason. Establish that the chick will come with you first then spend your money warming her up or having fun or whatever after that.
I know chicks from the disco that all my friends have fucked but will not go with me for whatever reason. You think if I go home and change clothes they will come? Hell no! My clothes do not have shit to do with whether a hooker is coming or not. As with any normal woman, they know within 2 minutes whether they will fuck you or not. The shit is random. If a chick says she will not go with you then move on to the next before spending all kinds of money on her.
Engine Driver
01-01-19, 03:55
If a chick does not want to go with you, then she does not want to go with you. Your clothes or how many drinks you have bought do not have shit to do with it.
That is the same way guys spend all this money on drinks then find out the chick will not come with them for whatever reason. Establish that the chick will come with you first then spend your money warming her up or having fun or whatever after that.
What I want to know is can Mr E go into Windmill, Palace or Bacarra, go up to a 10, point and shoot? If so, what is your success rate with this method?
Banana Boi
01-01-19, 04:00
I have always said to walk up to them and say lets go fuck. That is what they are there for. Buying them all kinds of drinks and shit gets you the same thing as the pixie dust.I agree things don't have to be that complicated. I never feel like that if I wanted a particular girl I needed to do special things for her to go with me. My problem is that I am very particular to which girls I want to go with or even buy a drink for. Looks are important for me but just as important I want a girl who is smiley, fun, and has a happy demeanor. If I wanted a b1tch I'd still be with my model hot ex.
What I want to know is can Mr E go into Windmill, Palace or Bacarra, go up to a 10, point and shoot? If so, what is your success rate with this method?
I've never seen anyone over a 7 at Windmill. Different scale system or taste?
I have always said to walk up to them and say lets go fuck. That is what they are there for. Buying them all kinds of drinks and shit gets you the same thing as the pixie dust.To a certain extent I agree with you. However some of us (at least myself), need to spend a bit of time with the girl to work out if she really appeals to me, or if likely she will be a disaster. Rushed decisions are likely to be wrong. In one bar Crazy House, I rarely BFed a girl the first time I met her, and I was that wary. Some stunners were exceptions and I acted much quicker.
Many years ago I liked two particular girls at Long Gun, Noi and Ning. They were more than happy to drink with me and give me their time in the bar, but neither wanted to fuck me. Ning was a show dancer and rarely went with a guy. She claimed she much preferred roly poly teddy bear type guys, so I did not make the grade. Ha ha. Noi was a tall stunner with perfect body. She claimed she did not want to go with me because we were friends. Plenty of guys wanted her. After many refusals (on different occasions), she finally went with me and was crap on the bed, very reticent and restrictive. No kissing, no BJ. I guess my dick was supposed to be hard for her automatically, where kissing usually works well for me. One of the weakest ever for bed performance. The lesson is, if she doesn't want you, she means it, and it is difficult for me to be excited by a girl who does not want anything. She probably wanted some younger spunky guy. We remained friends as before however, with me still wishing she could be into it with me. However no acting from her. Totally true stories. We just cannot expect all attractions to be mutual. So when I get a girl that acts all lovey dovey and passionate, it makes such a huge difference to my fun and enjoyment.
Not exactly going to happen if go straight up and suggest a fuck, I think. My first Billboard girl, I fluked it, as she was so warm and so pretty as well, still it took a little bit of time in the bar for her to become so lovey dovey (maybe alcohol loosened her up a bit too) and for me to know she would be great. She did not last long there as a hooker, got a BF (sponser I presume) real quick.
When a girl in Twisters did not want to go with me, scared of Farang dick, etc., I had learned my lesson and just had to accept it. So yes would not matter how many drinks one bought for her, no help at all. Always best to find out if a girl might be keen early on, but tricky if have not yet decided if I want her or not. The girl being good looking and keen is a good start though.
Then you get girls supposedly very keen, but cannot go as it is their period. Ha Ha.
Mr Enternational
01-01-19, 15:20
What I want to know is can Mr E go into Windmill, Palace or Bacarra, go up to a 10, point and shoot? If so, what is your success rate with this method?This is a weird question to me. Can you walk into Hertz and rent a car? Can you go into McDonald's and buy a burger? These are hores we are talking about here. What is needed to get them besides the fact that you are paying them? I guess the saying, "Couldn't get laid in a horehouse" is rooted in truth. Evidently some guys actually can't get laid in a horehouse.
As I was saying before, can you walk into Kinnaree and get the best girl? Can you walk into a soapy and get the best girl? So what makes a gogo so different? You don't have to romance or impress hookers; you only have to pay them.
I was in Florida and another board member took me to a strip club. I cut to the chase with the girl and asked her how much to come to the hotel. She told me to go to the back room and get some private dances first and we can discuss it later. (I equate that to buying lady drinks.) I said I am not that stupid. Why am I going to go in the back room and spend the money that I could be giving you to fuck?
ROTFLMAO. I was at Insanity grooving on the music and the totally hot Coyote Dancer dancing on the platform came down and said "I work here". I said "really? She said, "Yes, you look nice, you buy me drink? I said "Well, ID rather just skip all that, how much for short time?
She gave me a dirty look and left. Couldn't even ask if she did CIM.
Many years ago I liked two particular girls at Long Gun, Noi and Ning. They were more than happy to drink with me and give me their time in the bar, but neither wanted to fuck me. Ning was a show dancer and rarely went with a guy. She claimed she much preferred roly poly teddy bear type guys, so I did not make the grade. Ha ha. Noi was a tall stunner with perfect body. She claimed she did not want to go with me because we were friends. Plenty of guys wanted her. After many refusals (on different occasions), she finally went with me and was crap on the bed, very reticent and restrictive. No kissing, no BJ. I guess my dick was supposed to be hard for her automatically, where kissing usually works well for me. One of the weakest ever for bed performance. The lesson is, if she doesn't want you, she means it, and it is difficult for me to be excited by a girl who does not want anything. She probably wanted some younger spunky guy. We remained friends as before however, with me still wishing she could be into it with me. However no acting from her. Totally true stories. We just cannot expect all attractions to be mutual. So when I get a girl that acts all lovey dovey and passionate, it makes such a huge difference to my fun and enjoyment.I had sex with pretty much all of the showgirls at Long Gun back in those days. I was "friends" with the mamasan and she hooked me up. The top show girls in those days most times did not go home with any guy until the end of the night. Those girls are valuable to draw guys in to watch the shows and buy drinks. But that mamasan used to allow them to go with me short time then they would return and dance again. I spent a lot of money buying that mamasan drinks, but she always hooked me up with the hottest girls in the place. And it seemed she had a word with the girls before I took them home telling them to provide me good service. Prior to meeting that mamasan, I would get crap service on occasion, but after meeting her all the girls were great. Unfortunately, the talent has been non existent there for a good many years now. Back in the day, that place was a goldmine of hotties.
Member #4698
01-01-19, 17:02
Yes, you can always cut to the chase in a Go Go or bar. The direct method works in most cases, ie you can have the girl you want unless she is already spoken for, but I prefer to take advangage of the Go Go & FL bar set up which encourages the customer to invite a girl over for a drink and have a little audition before making the decision to take her or not. A girl's serxy appearance is absolutely necessary. I don't enjoy shagging unattractive girls. Who does? But good looks alone is not sufficient. I seek out friendly girls who want to show me a good time and in the proces have a pretty good time themselves. In bordellos, which I frequent a lot in BKK, Jakarta, Gelang, and Macau, the customer doesn't usually have the benefit of an audition, a get to know her time, so he must rely on a girl's body language, facial expressons, and the reputation of the house. Some bordellos like the former Lord (BKK), Emporium Hotel (Jakarta), and Rio Sauna (Macau) have excellent reputations and their girls are trained and managed quite well, but other bordellos not so much and service in these latter places can vary widely depending on the girl. In the end everybody must choose the method that works best for them. We all are looking to have the best time we can given our individual preferences and tastes in girls and our various personal and financial contraints.
Steve 9696
01-01-19, 18:09
Natty's rather hit it on the head. Guys want different things from the experience. There are really three parts to the experience:
1) The club.
2) The girlfriend.
3) The sex.
Some guys are pretty transactional and just want sex with a pretty girl. Nothing wrong with that! So that is number 3 — and frankly the easiest to get. Most any format can lead here, whether escort incall / outcall, gogo, massage, Clinica, brothel, bar or what have you. Find pretty girl, have sex, pay. Easy.
Getting number 2 is a real challenge and strongly related to number 1. And when I say "girlfriend", I mean the connection part where, for whatever reason it "feels like" you both want to be there and are into each other. This is related to 1 because it is very hard to establish this with massage / Clinica, brothel lineup or incall / outcal for that matter. And for some of us (me!) this is the most important part. The experience is 10 x better when it feels more than physical.
Finally the club / format. Bars, Gogos, Boates, and even FKK to some extent provide two important parts of the experience. First, you preview the "girlfriend" part more extensively. While you can never be 100% sure in-venue chemistry translates to in-room chemistry, you can be 100% sure that if there is little / none it is not going to get better!
Secondly, the bar / gogo / FKK is a "king of the world" experience. There are 50 girls here, mostly naked or at least sexily dressed and they all want to go to the room with me! It's a candy store. Who doesn't love this part? I sure as heck do. First time I went to an FKK I about came in my shorts just from the club experience itself. Surely it can't be legal! Yet it is.
So it all depends how much each of us values parts 1, 2, and 3. For me, all three are critical and so I love the gogo / bar / Boate format best (Most FKKs now are really short on connection-time — still love them anyhow.).
Member #4698
01-01-19, 20:53
In my last post I outlined the utilitarian reason why I spend a good deal of pre-barfine time in Go Go's and FL pickup bars buying attractive working girls drinks and that was to screen out low performers and possible duds. But I left out the most important reason which is that I enjoy engaging in a little hanky panky in bars especially with potential NEW girls of my choosing. Perhaps it is a direct link to my misbegotten youth when my friends and I used to down a few ludes and head out to a favorite bar to party & pick up regular girls. I used to do a lot of wild stuff back in the day. Nowadays, I still enjoy asking a dancer over to my table, offering her a drink, moving to a back booth to play around with her and sometimes simultaneously with a couple of her friends. The goal is always to find a suitable barfine for the night, but who says you can't have a whole lot of fun along the way.
Now every bar has a slightly different bar culture. Some Go Go's and pick up bars are more conducive to fooling around with the girls than other bars. For example, Crazy Horse, Twister and Billboard are very hanky panky pro while Baccara and RB4 are not. So, I end up spending more time, buying more Tequila rounds, and partying around more in bars like CH and Twister than say Baccara or RB4. I still barfine girls out of the later 2 bars, but it is much quicker enter, select, decide and exit foray. Point of fact, I do not recall ever kissing a girl on ground floor Baccara, yet despite that, I still bafine from there ocasionally because I like some of their girls.
My favorite, almost anything goes, bars are Bottoms Bar in Makati, Malio Club in Jakarta, and CH & Twister in BKK in that order. Note: these bars also have the critical prerequisite: they each have a good selection of sexy girls. LOL. I don't give a fig for almost anything goes bars where the girls are not attractive. Interestingly, there are quite a number of those kind of bars in BKK, Pattaya, and Manila. I stay away. 555.
PS: I don't think these recent posts from yesterday & today on the direct point & shoot vs the indirect buy a girl a couple of drinks barfining methods belong in the "STUPID" thread. I thought this thread was set up mainly to handle one crazy BM's loony reports, pontifications and the resulting fallout. No offense intended. 555.
My favorite, almost anything goes, bars are Bottoms Bar in Makati, Malio Club in Jakarta, and CH & Twister in BKK in that order. Note: these bars also have the critical prerequisite: they each have a good selection of sexy girls. These bars are also at the higher end of town, cost wise. If I'm spending $20 on a 30 minute ST, that's not a lot to lose on a poor selection. The risk of loosing $400 and a whole night makes more time and money spent on the selection process justifiable in my eyes.
I'd agree that the selection period doesnt need to be onerous and can be a fun night in itself. 😁
Thread Starter.Ok. This is a rant and it's about the condition of sidewalks in Thailand and Bangkok specifically. I lived in Bangkok during the winter of 2015 and 2016 and thought the sidewalks were in horrendous condition. This year they are even worse. Check out near Soi 8 going in both directions and the opposite side of street headed towards Thermae and the high end hotels. Really abyismal. Of course, this extends to virtually every sidewalk area stretching from Siam to OnNut and beyond.
Last Sunday, I went to the Ari neighborhood for dinner though and was pleasantly surprised by the area. The sidewalks, albeit with telephone poles stuck in the middle, were in significantly better condition than further down on SUK. Plus traffic was negigible and I could feel a nice calm ambience all through this neighborhood. It's the last stop on BTS line before MoChit. Check it out. Some nice restaurants here as well plus some interesting shops and coffee hangouts.
With all the tax dollars coming in, one would think the city could improve the condition of the sidewalks but unlikely to happen. Is the city responsible for maintenance or the individual owners in front of the sidewalk?
With all the tax dollars coming in, one would think the city could improve the condition of the sidewalks but unlikely to happen. Is the city responsible for maintenance or the individual owners in front of the sidewalk?One could rant about the standards of many things, e. G. Non inforcement of road rules, too many drunk drivers, abysmal layout of power lines and poles, extremely frequent transformer blow-ups and other power outages. All very normal here. Even persons jumping off 5th floor of building did not hit the ground, rather hit the vast arrays of power lines on the way down. May have saved them if not electrocuted.
Walking pavements are continually ripped up and redone, due to problems with pipes and conduits underneath whether contain water, drainage, sewer, whatever. Also due to poor standard of the work not intended to last long. You learn to take care when walking due to uneven walks, sudden dips, holes, etc.
Believe it or not, sidewalks were far worse in 1991, including excessive foul stinks from drains everywhere. Always danger of foot going down some hole. Also severe danger to bash head on low hanging signs, trees, etc. , if taller than the Thai people. Even bashed my head on the aircon in a bus once. Less than 6 foot above the floor. Doorways into toilets were typically less than 6 foot high also.
Either things are a lot better or I just got used to it. Don't bash the head any more. Don't put foot into slimy sludge accidentally. Automatically more vigilent for problems.
The new government is Image conscious but action is a bit limited, and sometimes window dressing the problems, with unwelcome change, like cleaning out street stalls selling food and other stuff.
Getting number 2 is a real challenge and strongly related to number 1. And when I say "girlfriend", I mean the connection part where, for whatever reason it "feels like" you both want to be there and are into each other. This is related to 1 because it is very hard to establish this with massage / Clinica, brothel lineup or incall / outcal for that matter. And for some of us (me!) this is the most important part. The experience is 10 x better when it feels more than physical.
The GFE part is important to some of us, not really repeating girls that are just mechanical fucks, or clearly not into it at all, even making it difficult. In the 1990's I had a lot of great GFEs in soapies, especially ChaoPraya 2, but does seem harder to get in the modern day. Am I just too old now, maybe, but I think girls attitudes have changed too.
In former times, perhaps sometimes today, a girl might fuck the guy bareback in the bath or on bodyslide mat, when getting carried away, and it seemed like she was too horny to wait to get on the bed (even if not actually true).
Still when I go see a girl, and she just can't keep her tongue out of my mouth for very long, it does keep me in the mood big time. I feel the dick stirring just thinking of her kisses. Obviously I am a guy extremely oriented to get a customer well hooked. Ha ha.
I like to see what style the girl has, for a new girl. Not just pull the trigger immediately and request a fuck.
The GFE part is important to some of us, not really repeating girls that are just mechanical fucks, or clearly not into it at all, even making it difficult. In the 1990's I had a lot of great GFEs in soapies, especially ChaoPraya 2, but does seem harder to get in the modern day. Am I just too old now, maybe, but I think girls attitudes have changed too.
In former times, perhaps sometimes today, a girl might fuck the guy bareback in the bath or on bodyslide mat, when getting carried away, and it seemed like she was too horny to wait to get on the bed (even if not actually true).
Still when I go see a girl, and she just can't keep her tongue out of my mouth for very long, it does keep me in the mood big time. I feel the dick stirring just thinking of her kisses. Obviously I am a guy extremely oriented to get a customer well hooked. Ha ha.
I like to see what style the girl has, for a new girl. Not just pull the trigger immediately and request a fuck.They all should provide GFE or pse right off the bat without us having to spend time having to probe, question, et al. It's their job. Now if a customer wants to spend time romancing, playing, etc, theu should provide that as well. We're the customer ffs, seems so many guys forget that.
They all should provide GFE or pse right off the bat without us having to spend time having to probe, question, et al. It's their job. Now if a customer wants to spend time romancing, playing, etc, theu should provide that as well. We're the customer ffs, seems so many guys forget that.However girls cannot just switch on sexual desire. Maybe some are great actresses, but there are plenty who don't try to put on an act, and plenty who try but are obvious. For many guys its irrelevant. Just as well since if you are the 5th or more customer of a girl in the Oily or BJ shop, she is just providing a service and that is all. That type of service is not really my scene normally. Mostly I take fresh girls as their first customer for the day, and likely their only customer. This increases chances they are really into it with no need to put on an act, almost like my Thermae girls in the early 90's who were horny very part time girls.
They all should provide GFE or pse right off the bat without us having to spend time having to probe, question, et al. It's their job.Just as all carsalesmen should give a fair appraisal of his cars faults, a fair comparison against competitor models and not try to make a sale based upon short term profits.
I understand what you are saying but it is an ideal world rather than reality where any occupation tries to maximize their income with minimal effort. The best that we can hope for is that they are looking at long term return when customers return or refer them to others rather than income in the next 60 minutes.
However girls cannot just switch on sexual desire. Maybe some are great actresses, but there are plenty who don't try to put on an act, and plenty who try but are obvious. For many guys its irrelevant. Just as well since if you are the 5th or more customer of a girl in the Oily or BJ shop, she is just providing a service and that is all. That type of service is not really my scene normally. Mostly I take fresh girls as their first customer for the day, and likely their only customer. This increases chances they are really into it with no need to put on an act, almost like my Thermae girls in the early 90's who were horny very part time girls.It's not about their desire. They need to be good actresses. Yep, I miss the Thermae part-timers. They were fun.
I teach the girls to say "give it to me" over and over again during sex. That's a turn on for me.
Crocodilexp
01-03-19, 10:37
However girls cannot just switch on sexual desire. Maybe some are great actresses, but there are plenty who don't try to put on an act, and plenty who try but are obvious. For many guys its irrelevant. Just as well since if you are the 5th or more customer of a girl in the Oily or BJ shop, she is just providing a service and that is all.
It doesn't Katharine Hepburn level acting to have a nice GFE attitude, give a bit of DFK and eye contact along with all the standard services, which is sufficiently convincing for most guys. Indeed, some girls can overdo the acting and are obvious fakes, but it's not necessary (for me at least), a plain "I don't mind being here and fucking, and will try to make it good" is sufficient. I've had girls in 10-customer per day low-end venues who could pull off a decent enough friendly attitude on a regular basis.
Thai culture places general emphasis on getting along and being pleasant (as well as superficial deference to those perceived to have higher social standing). In the past, that has made for a great attitude of hookers on average. Unfortunately, times are changing. Part of the problem might be that Farang as a group are no longer held in especially high regard either.
Could not agree more. Any more effort than that is too much.That works for you, but some guys are looking for something different. I can remember each and every Thai hottie I have had. Even knowing Hawk's Law, I continue to try to find that super hottie, one who will give me that GFE I long for. I continually fail at it, but with very few exceptions, I still want to be with them again as they are so hot. I cannot, OTOH, remember each GFE or PSE I have received on Soi 6. So, given Hawk's Law, I know that I will never be able to walk up to such a dream girl and simply demand what I wish for. To have any chance of breaking Hawk's Law, I will need game. I am too old and too cheap to toss out 10,000's of TBH to otherwise buy it.
If guys are happy with what they are getting with the blunt approach, then excellent. Just accept that some vacationing dudes enjoy the chase of going after the hottest of the hot. We many never be totally satisfied (and maybe that is for the best for if they gave a GFE we might fall in love with them), but at least it provides some entertainment.
This is a weird question to me. Can you walk into Hertz and rent a car? Can you go into McDonald's and buy a burger? .The girls I tend to want would compare closer to La Tour the'Argent more than Hertz or McDonalds! That said, I usually settle for Outback or Taco Bell.
Engine Driver
01-04-19, 00:22
To have any chance of breaking Hawk's Law, I will need game. Engine Driver's Theory is that there is already one egotistical maniac on this board. LOL.
It doesn't Katharine Hepburn level acting to have a nice GFE attitude, give a bit of DFK and eye contact along with all the standard services, which is sufficiently convincing for most guys. Most of the girls did not go into prostitution because they want to have GFE sex with all of their customers. This is not a job most of them dreamed of having. It is simply a way to get money. I was acquainted with a lady close to my own age, and she once made a subdued pass at me. I thought about it for a second, but quickly realized that she was fat, had drooping skin and tons of wrinkles, and while I could probably get some decent sex from her, I couldn't possibly imagine kissing her and having our tongues in each other's mouth. I figured I would throw up. I would rather wait to have sex with a young Thai woman in 5 months than do this old fattie. I presume these same Thai girls are equally grossed out by some of us, and the fact some will actually do DFK with me and seem to enjoy it is something I find amazing. We may think it is part of the job, but they may think they are doing enough simply stripping down and spreading their legs for us.
1. Monkeypaw's Final Report at #333.
My first night in Bangkok was celebrated with an awesome time with an awesome girl. At this point, I can act like she doesn't have name like some folks in their reports, or I can just call her Kwan. Before our meet up at Thermae, I had strolled to Nana and Soi Cowboy and there wasn't any new talent that caught my eye. It was slow and early for a Sunday night. Around 9 ish, Monkeypaw made a detour to Thermae, but took the Soi 15 back entrance across from the Hooters. Monkeypaw Final Tip: Use this entrance if you want to not have to buy a drink just to look. This is where the girls and customer smoke to avoid the ladyboys out by the stairs in the front of Sukhumvit. As I walked by the bathroom, I saw Kwan one of my all time favorite and she was not only smoking, but literally smoking hot. I forgot that this is where she likes to stand to chat up customers who smoke. Her icebreaker is to always ask or bum a cigarette from a customer. She doesn't really smoke herself. It beats the same old "Hello, what's your name, where you from, how long you holiday yada, yada, yada. " At this point, I could choose not describe her looks or her body like some folks in their reports or better yet, I'll include photos below of Kwan. Because when Monkeypaw says a girl is smoking hot, he wants the whole world to know what his idea of smoking hot is, not just some random "beauty eye beholder" crap. Long story short, I walked in after telling her "Hi," did a round in Thermae, and there was nothing better looking than Kwan. Went back to the bathroom area and we agreed on 3000 for ST. Last time I grabbed her it was only 2500, but I guess she is gaining popularity. At this point, I can whine about raised prices for sex like some folks, or blame it on an entire race of customers, but I rather just get exactly what I want in terms of looks, and pay what she asked. That's because, I know her stomach is flat, those tits are nice and perky, and the ass is round and firm. At this point, I can just write up a hot and detailed session without any other identifying or locating information on the girl like some other folks, but let's just finish it with "the experience I got was GFE with a CIM finish that she swallowed every drop that was worthy of a Monkeypaw 2 Paws Up. ".
2. It's Just a Number's Game.
Numbers are universally easier to understand than ground or above ground or below ground nonsense. Not everyone understands English. Logical right?The countdown that Monkeypaw has been doing has luckily gotten to this point. I can do my final report in at #333, something I had foreshadowed way back when.
SNIP- There were a few more. Still hopelessly searching for #333 -SNIP.
SNIP- I'm still hoping for my #333 as well, but not at Tantra. Good report by the way and thanks for including the numbers. Monkeypaw 2 Paws Up for you.Interesting how all the stars aligned and everything seems like a coincidence, but Monkeypaw is pretty sure, that we are all a part of a bigger plan, with some holding a bigger role than others. How important is this? It means I'm balanced in body, mind, and spirit. I know already who I am and my purpose in life. I'm also believer that numbers are important as it is how the universe communicates with us. Since I can remember, the numbers 66,666 have always followed me around. From the street address I lived on, to the phone numbers I had, all the way to random times that it's appeared to my eyes like in the photo inside the taxi. Whether it's the mark of the beast, the devil's sign, or whatever evil that lies with the 6's, it's a part of me. Does to scare me? Nope, because I know my core. My favorite color is still blue. Or better yet, well stated by BB.
-SNIP He's the only Michael who can dance with the Devil.3. The Perfect 10.
So as a parting gift (since I need to devote less time writing lengthy posts as per Rob, who doesn't apparently know that Dragon speech recognition software exists. You and some other folks still need to get 20/20 in 2020.), I'll clear up this whole 10 and stunner thing as a last favor. It's always been subjective to "your own" history. So it's that simple. Use the scale below and pick only one number that the girl you are rating would fall under. You go by "your own" previous experience and let her numbers fall where they may. That's how beauty works. It's always society's (the majority) opinion that counts to what is beauty, not our own. That's how beauty pageants work. So it's better to have a standard scale that os easy to follow.
(Read carefully and pick only one based on "your own" history for the girl).
1. I'd rather experiment on the Japanese sex doll.
2. I have to be drugged, drunk, forced, dared and loss.
3. Have to pay me 2500 baht for short time (No BFE).
4. Only BBBJ worthy, but not tell anybody.
5. I'the do her, but not tell anybody.
6. Full GFE worthy. Willing to tell others. Seen in public together.
7. I'm willing to "PAY" her money for her services. Plus #6.
8. Better looking than 80% of all girls I've "been with "before. Plus #6 and #7.
9. Better looking than 90% of all girls I've "been with" before. Plus #6 and #7.
10. Better looking than "All or 100%" of the girls I've "been with" in my entire life. The "BEST. " Plus #6 and # 7.
I included a sample of this well agreed on "hot girl. " Feel free to upload your own pic, share, and get an idea where she stands using "anonvote", which is the site for creating anonymous polls.
http://www.anonvote.com/strawpoll/s12829v
4. Another Parting Gift.
My all time favorite scene from one of the best movies ever made, if anyone can guess. Pay attention to the sound bite right around the 2:03 mark.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-_6560AW1zQ
5. Bait and Switch.
Not sure why some folks on here still trying to bait Monkeypaw into talking anymore about "game. " I remember my promise from my last post, it's done and over with it. Shit is pointless. A promise is a promise, so go back and read my previous report. That was my "last mention of game. " But thinking back on my younger years, before I really experienced P4P, I did some pretty crazy ass shit. I guess once again, it's just my life, because I have what is called "LIFE. " Just going around letting people entertain me with fish candy and cockroaches, while I wait for my time.
1. In the USA and HK, I fucked models, employees and coworkers (at very job I've worked which is over a dozen), and so many girls (with boyfriends or already married) in their homes while their spouses were away. And yes, even fucked strippers in America for no money exchanged because I had straight-line access to the "goodies. " All free, even the "goodies."
2. Fucked so many random girls with just one phone conversation. While living in the USA when I was younger, I used the phone book to pranked call girls at random. Then I went to their houses that same night to fuck, just from that single conversion as our only rapport. A handful of times, I ran away because they lied about what they looked like.
3. At the suggestion of my father, enrolled in nursing program in Texas, at all women's university. It was hell getting accepted, but they finally let me in. While there, I fucked an hot Asian nursing student who eventually became a nurse (easy and obvious), another beautiful Asian regular student who wasn't a nursing student and didn't want to be a nurse that ended up being a nurse, a hot white girl nursing student with huge fake tits, who failed nursing school and became something else, an older (early 40's) but sexy nursing professor, and lastly a cute young Hispanic who was an actual nurse. I eventually got kicked out of the program for my bad behavior. At least it helped cured my boredom to past some time.
4. Took the girl next door who was attending community college, broke, and watering her grass. Shaved her pussy and fucked her on first meeting ever, in her mom's house. After fucking her again on the second meeting the next day, I talked her into becoming working girl for money and passed her around on another USA sex forum board. Some of you guys from the other board may have remembered her as the spinner Asian Alexis.
5. Dated a hot law student, a blonde white girl, while I was fresh out of high school. And convinced her to become a stripper because I wanted to move out of the house and my parents didn't want to give me any money. After she got me an apartment under my name paid out for a year, I dumped her. Now she's a successful corporate lawyer in Houston.
6. Picked up and fucked two legal aged runaway teenagers, one white, one Latina, from the bus stop for only two Jack in the Box tacos each. On top of that, it was buy 1 get 1 free 2 for 99 cents Taco Tuesday. They ended up staying with me for 3 days with non stop fucking and sucking, until I finally took them back home because of my conscience. This story was famous on another sex board in the USA.
7. Met, took to a motel, and fucked a really hot and sexy (2 months pregnant) white girl while she was leaving the at the doctor's office. Her boyfriend had ran off on her. After I fucked her, I convinced her that night to post on Craigslist and make some money selling her ass. I stole from her $40 while she was showering, because I had paid for the motel for her. I didn't wanted to be her pimp, just shown her the light. Hit and run.
8. Fucked 4 different Asian bridesmaids at one wedding. Simply amazing feat. (Picture attached).
9. Picked up a cute white girl, who needed a ride home from a night club in Houston. No drinks, no dancing, she only wanted a ride. On the way home we (a buddy and I) got her agree to a threesome including DP action at her apartment. After we were done and when she was showering, we ran off without even saying "bye. " We had promised tp take her to IHOP, but decided to renege.
10. When I was in high school, I needed some extra school clothes, so I got this cute white girl working at the Palais Royal, to agree to let us drop her off her home. This was our first encounter outside of her job. On the way to her house, she was sucking my dick in the front seat, while my friend was driving and kept fingering her. All this, in his ragged ass Dodge Dart with hole in floor that he bought for $100. Afterwards, we admitted that the reason we were always at her section in the store was that we were stealing clothes all the time. The next day, we went up to Palais Royal again, and she let us steal some more clothes. Then I blocked her number.
Now I see why my father said it is better I just do P4 P and let him foot the bill. They weren't ready for me. Once I've reached my reward at being #1 at the #1, nothing else needs to be proven. Unless anybody feels froggy and wants to jump.
SNIP- Let's hang out. I'll be in Pattaya and Bangkok from the end of December until mid February 2019. Come sit down next to me at a club and let me pick your girl. Don't worry, most guys say I have very good taste in girls and she will be one of the top girls in the bar. If she agrees to fuck you, I'll pay for her. If she doesn't, you pay for only my drinks. If you think it's a set up between the Paw and the girl, my drinks usually total around only 1000 baht, not enough for a girl lose out on the 3000 baht for herself if she goes with you. All they care about is the money right? It should be easy because "all the game you need is money. " And technically, you don't even need that, because it's going to be Monkeypaw's money. So any takers? -SNIPAmazing there are still no takers for a free session, paid for by yours truly, with a hot Go Go dancer. Unless it's a checkmate and "you've been Monkeypawed."
Most of the girls did not go into prostitution because they want to have GFE sex with all of their customers. This is not a job most of them dreamed of having. It is simply a way to get money. I was acquainted with a lady close to my own age, and she once made a subdued pass at me. I thought about it for a second, but quickly realized that she was fat, had drooping skin and tons of wrinkles, and while I could probably get some decent sex from her, I couldn't possibly imagine kissing her and having our tongues in each other's mouth. I figured I would throw up. I would rather wait to have sex with a young Thai woman in 5 months than do this old fattie. I presume these same Thai girls are equally grossed out by some of us, and the fact some will actually do DFK with me and seem to enjoy it is something I find amazing. We may think it is part of the job, but they may think they are doing enough simply stripping down and spreading their legs for us.For the purposes of procreation, Nature/Natural Selection has determined that, while there is definitely a time limit on when a human female can produce healthy offspring, if at all, there is no such time limit for human males. Women stop producing eggs at a certain age, these days I suppose at around age 50. Men virtually never stop producing sperm. 95 year old men can still father children. That being the case, Nature/Natural Selection has provided that women are not nearly as turned off by the prospect of having sex with an old man as men are turned off by the prospect of having sex with an old lady.
Some females can certainly be "equally grossed out" by the prospect of engaging in sexual activity with some older men. But it is not really built into the female brain that they would be "equally grossed out" by it in general. Thankfully.
Most of the girls did not go into prostitution because they want to have GFE sex with all of their customers. This is not a job most of them dreamed of having. It is simply a way to get money. I was acquainted with a lady close to my own age, and she once made a subdued pass at me. I thought about it for a second, but quickly realized that she was fat, had drooping skin and tons of wrinkles, and while I could probably get some decent sex from her, I couldn't possibly imagine kissing her and having our tongues in each other's mouth. I figured I would throw up. I would rather wait to have sex with a young Thai woman in 5 months than do this old fattie. I presume these same Thai girls are equally grossed out by some of us, and the fact some will actually do DFK with me and seem to enjoy it is something I find amazing. We may think it is part of the job, but they may think they are doing enough simply stripping down and spreading their legs for us.Doesn't really matter why they went into it. It is the path they chose. There are plenty of others they could have chosen. Sorry, whether you are fixing my car, serving my food, or attending to me sexually, I have certain expectations. If you don't want to do the job correctly and well, then be a FL where you have more freedom of choice, or choose another career.
Doesn't really matter why they went into it. It is the path they chose. There are plenty of others they could have chosen. Sorry, whether you are fixing my car, serving my food, or attending to me sexually, I have certain expectations. If you don't want to do the job correctly and well, then be a FL where you have more freedom of choice, or choose another career.+1 on that, Goatscrot.
That works for you, but some guys are looking for something different. I can remember each and every Thai hottie I have had. Even knowing Hawk's Law, I continue to try to find that super hottie, one who will give me that GFE I long for. I continually fail at it, but with very few exceptions, I still want to be with them again as they are so hot. I cannot, OTOH, remember each GFE or PSE I have received on Soi 6. So, given Hawk's Law, I know that I will never be able to walk up to such a dream girl and simply demand what I wish for. To have any chance of breaking Hawk's Law, I will need game. I am too old and too cheap to toss out 10,000's of TBH to otherwise buy it.
If guys are happy with what they are getting with the blunt approach, then excellent. Just accept that some vacationing dudes enjoy the chase of going after the hottest of the hot. We many never be totally satisfied (and maybe that is for the best for if they gave a GFE we might fall in love with them), but at least it provides some entertainment.There is a difference between residents and visitors, that is true. However, for us "old school mongers" who have been engaging in P4 P for 20 plus years and have been doing the BKK thing since the 90's, we remember a time when you could get the best lookers easily and the egos of punters played little to no part in the scene. Almost all of us came over here to escape the silly games back home. We had and still have no desire to "chase" women or pursue them. That would completely defeat the point of being here. Competition to over gals in a P4 P scene? What a ridiculous notion.
Thailand was easy. You could not walk 10 meters on Suk at night without hearing, "go with you, go with you. " The same held true with walking street. It required zero effort to find a great looking gal whose performance was going to be ok. When Cowboy and Nana closed you could stand outside of either and the gals who did not get a BF would come up to you and try to get you to take them. It was quite unreal. And hey, it was never more than 25 USD for the most part, so expectations were not the same. That being said, I've yet to meet a P4 P gal who is worth over a hundred US to me.
Every once in awhile you'd see a mild altercation between two guys in Nana Disco over a gal. The rest of us would just laugh. Too many gals to put forth that much energy.
Sadly the current crop of punters has a very different mindset and have created an environment that puts the customer at a disadvantage. Not being demanding enough, overpaying, and the most ridiculous of all; competing for working girls.
Some females can certainly be "equally grossed out" by the prospect of engaging in sexual activity with some older men. But it is not really built into the female brain that they would be "equally grossed out" by it in general. Thankfully.He he. While girls may not be totally grossed out by it, I am amazed that some young girls really get into enjoying it big time (me being over 60), while others can be the star fish no response type, and alcohol is capable of helping change a girl from controlled non-responsive to a bit wild for it. DATY has been particularly effective tool for me to change girls from just taking it, to wanting to cum (but not all girls). So putting a bit of effort into turning a girl on, has its benefits.
I wonder if it is also true that us old guys can get totally grossed out by a girl with a bad body, sloppy, fat, etc. And a tired old face, where the reverse does not seem to matter so much with girls, whether the guy is young or old. Some girls even seem to like fat guys more. Seems that guys vary, some accepting plain to terrible looks, with only the fuck mattering, and others like me failing to have the excitement to fuck ugly girls. Even some popular girls, well known on this forum, were pretty unappealing to me. Best I not name them now (have done it before). Don't know if this is really a biological mechanism, or fuelled by looking at beautiful girls originally in magazines, but latter in the internet. Even having slight fantasies about some favourite female movie stars, years ago.
My first Farang wife was probably only a bit better looking than average (not a fatty). Not we have the opportunity to take extra good looking girls for sex, I guess we take them because often out of our league in normal life. However my Thai long time GF now, is both pretty, great body, and more than 20 years younger than me. Here we can get such a girl, so why not. If I see the GF naked, it does still make me feel horny, after all these years. Good ass and tits. Could not say that for all my past GFs. She is not even naggy / bitchy complainer. Bad temper only occasionally. That is hugely important for me to not get sick of the sight of her, after many years.
It is always a worry though that GF is almost hitting the formula of half my age plus 7 years right now. Actually just 1 year over that. Will she still be appealing in 5 to 10 years when fails to fit the formula. Last night had the hots for young girl from a couple staying at my Hotel. I guess she is Thai but unsure as did not hear her speak Thai. Probably at least 10 years younger than my GF, in perfect condition. I was real impressed by his taste for a naturally beautiful girl.
I think it is a bit weird if a guy does not have a roving eyes for hot girls. The biological imperative to impregnate as many women as possible, and result in the best and most offspring. Women I don't think have the same imperative to be impregnated by many different guys. Just choose the best one for her offspring, be he rich, powerful, or whatever. It is just not natural for us to stick to fucking one girl, and religion cannot force us into sticking to one girl. Only certain low brained animals have one mate for life, even then some are playing up.
Women I don't think have the same imperative to be impregnated by many different guys. Just choose the best one for her offspring, be he rich, powerful, or whatever..Far be it from me to guess what goes on inside the brains of women, but it should be noted that college age and early 20's farang females in particular can be prolific in shagging guys that they find "hot", just for the sake of fucking, instead of longer term "security".
It should be acknowledged that societal / cultural norms play a powerful double standard that also curtails their natural drive (s). Do men get shamed for being "sluts" to nearly the same degree?
After 25 the girls begin to realize the the biological clock is ticking and even more importantly, that their window of catching the "hot AND rich guy" is about to / or is closing so it's now or never time to parlay her features into the best future long term deal she can get. (I'm generalizing but I think everyone gets and agrees with the general idea).
Far be it from me to guess what goes on inside the brains of women, but it should be noted that college age and early 20's farang females in particular can be prolific in shagging guys that they find "hot", just for the sake of fucking, instead of longer term "security".
I can imagine young girls trying lots of young guys, in order to find one or two that give the girl a great time, I. E. Not too selfish in the sex. Find out how good and bad a fuck can be. Young guys don't have the experience and training to know exactly how to do it right, and what various girls need, varies. I recall took me 2 or 3 months to work out how to get my first farang GF off. She did not even know what a cum was like at first. Turns out a quite unusual technique was needed (not at all typical). Eventually fluked it. Then always had to be done that way from then on.
Does the guys' skills and performances matter? Surely these girls want to get it off too. They might prefer slightly older more experienced guys or are they happy to get themselves off in cowgirl as long as the guy does not pop too quick.
One young Thai girl (platonic waitress friend of mine but studying economics) was complaining to me about her young French guy who always popped too quick and went flaccid too quickly when ever she tried to get off in cowgirl position. I. e. She wasn't getting a cum, because he was a bit useless. I suggested to dose him with Viagra in the hope he would stay up longer and then his pop might not be so urgent. He might consider holding it for a while. Also to train him up in DATY since so many young inexperienced guys either don't do DATY or "suck" at it. Alternative was for her to find a new Gik guy. She did feedback that the Viagra was a good help.
Many modern young girls do want to enjoy sex and not think about babies hopefully, but young Thai girls in the village seem to still be expected to make babies unfortunately, or even get pregnant on purpose without permission from the boy as means to try to force the Thai boy to marry them rather than just using them as a temporary sex partner. Unfortunately many boys dump the girl and move on to the next one even before the baby gets born. This is the horror young Thais low class society. Such a high percentage of Thai girls are having a baby in teens or early 20s. Many of these young girls have no intention to raise the baby, dumping the child with the girl's mother or the boy's mother, and going off to work in Bangkok. The young couples often split. Many very young children, are crying when the real mother visits because the child does not know his own mother. I see and hear about these things all too often.
Surely these girls want to get it off too. They might prefer slightly older more experienced guys or are they happy to get themselves off in cowgirl as long as the guy does not pop too quick.I don't give two shits if a girl I am paying gets off or not.
I don't give two shits if a girl I am paying gets off or not.One FKK girl testified she got off with a client no more than twice a week, otherwise it got too exhausting for her. This reduced the odds for each individual monger.
So looking at some condos on property websites I see mention of transfer fees. I saw something that mentioned I believe 1 mil on a particular 1,500,000 baht condo? What does it mean by that? HOA fees appear to be dirt cheap, but I wouldn't want to get suckered on transfer fees. I believe that transfer fees are shared 50/50 with buyer and seller?
Pointy Stick
01-07-19, 12:16
I don't give two shits if a girl I am paying gets off or not.Have you looked into sex dolls? They are getting increasingly lifelike. I have a regular back in farangland who I can make cum a minimum of 4 times a session. Blonde 6 ft something MILF and nasty. If she just laid there I'm sure I would have not seen her a second time.
Mr Enternational
01-07-19, 13:05
One FKK girl testified she got off with a client no more than twice a week, otherwise it got too exhausting for her. This reduced the odds for each individual monger.Makes perfect sense. Only people that are not getting sex regularly think it is really good to be getting off all the time. If you have to fuck for a living who wants to (or even can) be getting off 5 times a day. It ain't as fun when you have to do it for a job. That is why I laugh when I read reports saying she was really in to it.
Robert Long
01-07-19, 19:43
So looking at some condos on property websites I see mention of transfer fees. I saw something that mentioned I believe 1 mil on a particular 1,500,000 baht condo? What does it mean by that? HOA fees appear to be dirt cheap, but I wouldn't want to get suckered on transfer fees. I believe that transfer fees are shared 50/50 with buyer and seller?Not a very good location. I assume that the area is far from the central district. Everything I looked at was average 6 M +. I stayed in a tower condo on Soi 24, the room was new and the view was nice. The size was 27 SM, it sold for 12.5 MB. And they were selling units in a sales area on the entry. I was shocked at that price, in Honolulu we have some of the highest priced condos in the US, but nothing is that small for that price. I hope someone can answer your question on transfer fees.
RL.
Mr Enternational
01-07-19, 20:36
So looking at some condos on property websites I see mention of transfer fees. I saw something that mentioned I believe 1 mil on a particular 1,500,000 baht condo? What does it mean by that? HOA fees appear to be dirt cheap, but I wouldn't want to get suckered on transfer fees. I believe that transfer fees are shared 50/50 with buyer and seller?Stay off websites. You get the best prices when you are on the ground walking around. Go into the lobby and look on the board to see who is selling. But if you had to go to a website I would say maybe bahtandsold. Try to catch someone that has to leave the country and is desperate to get rid of their place. I don't know the HOA fees that you saw. I guess it depends on the amenities. In my buddy's new place that cost 1 million baht, the association fees are like $1000 per year he said.
have you looked into sex dolls? They are getting increasingly lifelike. I have a regular back in farangland who i can make cum a minimum of 4 times a session. Blonde 6 ft something milf and nasty. If she just laid there i'm sure i would have not seen her a second time.lol lol lol lol lol.
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