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RobaFresca
03-07-25, 14:17
1) According to this logic, Hitler was no monster, too.
2) All Baltics and Poles are afraid of Putler.
3) A monster is not necessarily suicidal.Hey! I am not here to read such a brain twisted political bullshit but to know about girls.
Would be nice if you all could get back on topic.
Thanks.
Elvis 2008
03-07-25, 15:23
1) According to this logic, Hitler was no monster, too..Hitler was killing his own citizens. The nazis are on the side of Ukraine. Hiter conquered all of Europe in 2 years, and the Russians more than anyone were instrumental in defeating the Nazis. Russia has more land than it knows what to do with. They want a neutral Ukraine not to take it over.
All Baltics and Poles are afraid of Putler.I said the Poles were skeptical of the Ukraine good, Russia bad routine. Like I do, the Poles do not think the Ukrainians are angels.
3) A monster is not necessarily suicidal..And here we go again. In one breath, you say Putin is a mad man trying to conquer Europe and with the next, you say he is rational. Here is the problem I have with you Europeans. You keep trying to tell us how terrible Putin is and outside of Poland, no one in Europe has been coughing up cash for defense.
You Europeans want the USA to pay for the war, and you want to seize the $300 billion in Russian assets in European banks.
The UK just hosted Zelensky right after he saw Trump and Vance.
Not only did the PM meet him but King Charles did as well. And then I read this, https://www.19fortyfive.com/2025/02/the-british-army-may-have-only-25-active-main-battle-tanks/.
Out of those 160, the Royal Armored Corps can't find many tanks that are fully operational. They are trying to get at least 59 that are in "green" or "go" phase and many are still in "red" or "no go" status. Again, as noted by the article above, the active force of tanks has dwindled down to around 20 to 25, and getting 59 tanks ready to go will not be possible for an indefinite period of time.
NATO members Denmark and Sweden have more active tanks.
And the UK is going to put boots on the ground and planes in the sky huh? What a crock of bullshit. Yeah, Hitler is coming, and the UK has 20 to 25 tanks after three years. Give me a fucking break!
Reiner Otto
03-07-25, 17:37
Hey! I am not here to read such a brain twisted political bullshit but to know about girls.
Would be nice if you all could get back on topic.
Thanks.Would be nice, you first read (and understand) the title of this thread, before ranting around. Especially as a very new kid on the block.
Hey! I am not here to read such a brain twisted political bullshit but to know about girls.Would be nice if you all could get back on topic. In as much as the pro Zelensky nazis are geting butt fucked. Maybe ask them what creams they use to soothe their raw arses?
For clarity, I am not American. I also don't favour Trump- I think he is one crazy SOB who is unravelling all the gains the world has made since WW2 and could well precipitate a WW3. My only point to you was that there are some comprehensible reasons why Americans voted for Trump. A choice between two rubbish candidates was going to be a lose situation, whatever the reasons. I explained the reasons why Trump won. It is not a case of my liking these reasons. In the same way as if I drop a glass it falling is not my liking gravity. It just is a fact.Biden neurons were not more senile than Trump's and Biden is by far more clever for our world, when Trump is at least as dangerous as Putin and as China for pollution. USA won t MAGA with Trump bullshits. Just now a shameful country.
In as much as the pro Zelensky nazis are geting butt fucked. Maybe ask them what creams they use to soothe their raw arses?When almost all Ukrainians and most of the world support and welcome Zelensky, does it mean we are all nazis? Then, I would be proud to be a nazi supporting Ukraine and freedom. I love Russia, so I can only hate Putin who is really bad for Russians condition, becoming more and more poor, when they are so blind.
Hitler was killing his own citizens. The nazis are on the side of Ukraine. Hiter conquered all of Europe in 2 years, and the Russians more than anyone were instrumental in defeating the Nazis. Russia has more land than it knows what to do with. They want a neutral Ukraine not to take it over.
I said the Poles were skeptical of the Ukraine good, Russia bad routine. Like I do, the Poles do not think the Ukrainians are angels.
And here we go again. In one breath, you say Putin is a mad man trying to conquer Europe and with the next, you say he is rational. Here is the problem I have with you Europeans. You keep trying to tell us how terrible Putin is and outside of Poland, no one in Europe has been coughing up cash for defense.
You Europeans want the USA to pay for the war, and you want to seize the $300 billion in Russian assets in European banks.
The UK just hosted Zelensky right after he saw Trump and Vance.
Not only did the PM meet him but King Charles did as well. And then I read this, https://www.19fortyfive.com/2025/02/the-british-army-may-have-only-25-active-main-battle-tanks/.
Out of those 160, the Royal Armored Corps can't find many tanks that are fully operational. They are trying to get at least 59 that are in "green" or "go" phase and many are still in "red" or "no go" status. Again, as noted by the article above, the active force of tanks has dwindled down to around 20 to 25, and getting 59 tanks ready to go will not be possible for an indefinite period of time.
NATO members Denmark and Sweden have more active tanks.
And the UK is going to put boots on the ground and planes in the sky huh? What a crock of bullshit. Yeah, Hitler is coming, and the UK has 20 to 25 tanks after three years. Give me a fucking break!UK is going to put boots on the ground and planes in the sky huh? What a crock of bullshit. Yeah, Hitler is coming, and the UK has 20 to 25 tanks after three years. Give me a fucking break!
The UK like the rest of EU couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. They are a bunch of pussies who like to beat up on basket cases countries like Iraq, but only if Uncle Sam asks them to. They have totally lost the plot if they think they have the capability or the unity or the financial resources or the internal support to fight Russia, if Russia truly wanted to go to war with them, leave alone China.
Leave alone the weaponary, the UK is on its knees financially and moreover their own citizens are spineless and hate the idea of war. Their army is down to a tiny untrained figure. Vance humiliated them when he said they don't know war, but he wasn't wrong.
Reiner Otto
03-07-25, 23:17
1) no one in Europe has been coughing up cash for defense.
2) You Europeans want the USA to pay for the war,
1) Until short time ago, Europe trusted the RF. No need until then to "cough up cash", as Europe not so imperialistic like USA.
Needing large military to rob other countries. Remember Iraq, which cost the USA about 3000 x1 Billion bucks?
2) Hasn't the USA some type of moral obligation? Ooops, not any more, as any moral gone.
Hasn't the USA some type of contractual obligation? Oops, not any more, USA does not care about any agreements from the past (Budapester memo, incl. Guaratees for UA).
Besides, 10% of the cost of USAs robbery attack on Iraq is too much to spend for UAs defence.
Yes, you are right: Europe was stupid enough to trust Russia. And even more stupid, to trust the USA.
May be, they really are "The Great Satan".
UK is going to put boots on the ground and planes in the sky huh? What a crock of bullshit. Yeah, Hitler is coming, and the UK has 20 to 25 tanks after three years. Give me a fucking break!
The UK like the rest of EU couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. They are a bunch of pussies who like to beat up on basket cases countries like Iraq, but only if Uncle Sam asks them to. They have totally lost the plot if they think they have the capability or the unity or the financial resources or the internal support to fight Russia, if Russia truly wanted to go to war with them, leave alone China.
Leave alone the weaponary, the UK is on its knees financially and moreover their own citizens are spineless and hate the idea of war. Their army is down to a tiny untrained figure. Vance humiliated them when he said they don't know war, but he wasn't wrong.Putin showed us his military is quite weak and he seems to worry about Europe reaction to help more Ukraine without USA who are now better as robbers threatening blackmailing. At the moment, Vance is just nothing in politics, but he may become dangerous in future. Putin prefer his friend Trump to rule and fuck Ukraine than Europe supporting Ukraine, easier for him to be sucked swallowed by robbering the poor, Trump.
1) Until short time ago, Europe trusted the RF. No need until then to "cough up cash", as Europe not so imperialistic like USA.
Needing large military to rob other countries. Remember Iraq, which cost the USA about 3000 x1 Billion bucks?
2) Hasn't the USA some type of moral obligation? Ooops, not any more, as any moral gone.
Hasn't the USA some type of contractual obligation? Oops, not any more, USA does not care about any agreements from the past (Budapester memo, incl. Guaratees for UA).
Besides, 10% of the cost of USAs robbery attack on Iraq is too much to spend for UAs defence.
Yes, you are right: Europe was stupid enough to trust Russia. And even more stupid, to trust the USA.
May be, they really are "The Great Satan".It is a combination of naivety, ineptitude and extreme ideology that has got Europe to its knees and this is most true for Germany and UK. Taking Germany- Naiveity: to entrust their energy needs to Russia, to such an extent that their industry is now collapsing under unbearable energy prices; ineptitude: to shut down their entire nuclear programme so whimsically and think it would be inconsequential; to invite a million migrants in one go without any meaningful screening and think it would be inconsequential; extreme ideology: the highly socialist / leftist swing by Germany's predecessor government as manifested in the above two policies was going to without doubt have a countervailing protest movement as is now occurring with the AfD advances.
The centrist political position is the most sustainable in the long term. When politics too far left or right, there are countervailing political measures eventually. We have seen this throughout history, yet in conformance with Santanaya's admonishment: We forget the lessons of the past and are doomed to repeat it.
That was my simple point regarding Trump: the narrative that American's are stupid is in itself a stupid narrowminded one. He is a consequence of the excessive ineptitude and swing to a political landscape unsatisfactory for many people. His time too will come to an end. Eventually. I hope for America's sake and the world's that it settles into the centrist ground.
1) Until short time ago, Europe trusted the RF. No need until then to "cough up cash", as Europe not so imperialistic like USA.
Needing large military to rob other countries. Remember Iraq, which cost the USA about 3000 x1 Billion bucks?
2) Hasn't the USA some type of moral obligation? Ooops, not any more, as any moral gone.
Hasn't the USA some type of contractual obligation? Oops, not any more, USA does not care about any agreements from the past (Budapester memo, incl. Guaratees for UA).
Besides, 10% of the cost of USAs robbery attack on Iraq is too much to spend for UAs defence.
Yes, you are right: Europe was stupid enough to trust Russia. And even more stupid, to trust the USA.
May be, they really are "The Great Satan".OK, let's be a little more realistic. It was not about "trusting". First, Russian energy was cheap, second, European politicians love bribes. No one forced Schroder to join the Board of Gasprom, did they?
It is a combination of naivety, ineptitude and extreme ideology that has got Europe to its knees and this is most true for Germany and UK. Taking Germany- Naiveity: to entrust their energy needs to Russia, to such an extent that their industry is now collapsing under unbearable energy prices; ineptitude: to shut down their entire nuclear programme so whimsically and think it would be inconsequential; to invite a million migrants in one go without any meaningful screening and think it would be inconsequential; extreme ideology: the highly socialist / leftist swing by Germany's predecessor government as manifested in the above two policies was going to without doubt have a countervailing protest movement as is now occurring with the AfD advances.
The centrist political position is the most sustainable in the long term. When politics too far left or right, there are countervailing political measures eventually. We have seen this throughout history, yet in conformance with Santanaya's admonishment: We forget the lessons of the past and are doomed to repeat it.
That was my simple point regarding Trump: the narrative that American's are stupid is in itself a stupid narrowminded one. He is a consequence of the excessive ineptitude and swing to a political landscape unsatisfactory for many people. His time too will come to an end. Eventually. I hope for America's sake and the world's that it settles into the centrist ground.Another crack of BS. Europe is not collapsing. Europe, in fact, is doing fine. Weaning off the Russian energy needle is the best thing that's happened to Europe in the last 50 years.
However, strange as it sounds (because I don't normally agree with anti-Semites on anything) I agree that centrism would be best for any country, although I don't see Americans embrace centrist values any time soon.
Dude, you are talking like a complete imbecile. There are so many non-sequiturs (look it up) and strawman arguments (look that up too) and false premises (even you won't need to look that one up. Maybe) in your self indulgent ramblings that you could confound a Philosophy professor. Give your head a shake....Here you go Paulie97. We now have a board member who's willing to debate you on your terms with all that ad hominem, sequitur stuff. Time to come back and participate. Unless you're CHICKEN! Bawk bawk bawk bawk!
Reiner Otto
03-09-25, 08:38
It was not about "trusting". First, Russian energy was cheap, second, European politicians love bribes. No one forced Schroder to join the Board of Gasprom, did they?
Europe trusted the idea, that commercial business, profitable for both parties, eliminates the danger of war. Europe sold a lot of industrial product to the RF, and RF sold a lot of energy.
The idea of American "jealousy" just pops up. Blow up Nordstream 2 should be a piece of cake for the SEALS, I guess.
For an imperialistic country like the USA the idea of a successful collaboration between industry rich Europe and resourceful country like RF has to be a nightmare.
Divide and conquer, instead. Before thinking about China.
Regarding bribes, I do not consider it to be unusual for American businessmen, too. Espeially when looking at US weapons industry and business with foreign governments.
Anyway, this does not seriously compare to imperialistic war for oil, which was the real reason to spend 3000 Billlions in Iraq.
Whether highest scale bribes here were the real catalysts, to be determined, I have to admit.
OK, let's be a little more realistic. It was not about "trusting". First, Russian energy was cheap, second, European politicians love bribes. No one forced Schroder to join the Board of Gasprom, did they?
Another crack of BS. Europe is not collapsing. Europe, in fact, is doing fine. Weaning off the Russian energy needle is the best thing that's happened to Europe in the last 50 years.
However, strange as it sounds (because I don't normally agree with anti-Semites on anything) I agree that centrism would be best for any country, although I don't see Americans embrace centrist values any time soon.Another crack of BS. Europe is not collapsing. Europe, in fact, is doing fine. Weaning off the Russian energy needle is the best thing that's happened to Europe in the last 50 years. <<.
You sound like someone with his head up his ass, because that is what you precisely are. You clearly have no idea what is going on in Europe if you think it's "doing fine".
With reference to your persistent anti-semitism smear, you reveal yourself to be one of those racist, Palestinian hating, neo colonisers who think it's ok to steal and occupy people's land and massacre their people. Are you the same hypocrite who protests about Russia's war on Ukraine, or am I mixing up my fuckwits?
Europe trusted the idea, that commercial business, profitable for both parties, eliminates the danger of war. Europe sold a lot of industrial product to the RF, and RF sold a lot of energy.
The idea of American "jealousy" just pops up. Blow up Nordstream 2 should be a piece of cake for the SEALS, I guess.
For an imperialistic country like the USA the idea of a successful collaboration between industry rich Europe and resourceful country like RF has to be a nightmare.
Divide and conquer, instead. Before thinking about China.
Regarding bribes, I do not consider it to be unusual for American businessmen, too. Espeially when looking at US weapons industry and business with foreign governments.
Anyway, this does not seriously compare to imperialistic war for oil, which was the real reason to spend 3000 Billlions in Iraq.
Whether highest scale bribes here were the real catalysts, to be determined, I have to admit.If you haven't noticed, this clown Xpartan knows jack shit about Europe. He's one of the top 1% of Americans who know where Europe is on the map, and he's let his being in the elite of America go to inflate his head and to delude him into thinking he actually knows what he's talking about. It's quite amusing actually.
The hero doesn't realise that Germany was signing trade deals with Russia, while Russia was running rampant over Europe, committing terrorist attacks on British and European citizens. It was a stupid decision to make at that time, not necessarily in hindsight.
As for Imperial America's assault on war, which the British lapdogs also fell in line on, to be fair it wasn't all about oil. It was also about protecting Israel, as even our Zionist oppressors apologist will no doubt concede, if he has even a little honesty.
Sad attack on Mockba, killing at least 3 innocents. Pity, Putin didn t respect his Minsk signature and attacked Ukraine. Tanks are much less useful than drones which can kill at nearly 1000 kms now. Time now for these new weapons. Despite no more USA support, but Ukrainians don t give up. Trump support, but deads in his home for Putin. Russia under Putin, is not in safety.
Elvis 2008
03-11-25, 19:25
You sound like someone with his head up his ass, because that is what you precisely are. You clearly have no idea what is going on in Europe if you think it's "doing fine".
With reference to your persistent anti-semitism smear, you reveal yourself to be one of those racist, Palestinian hating, neo colonisers who think it's ok to steal and occupy people's land and massacre their people. Are you the same hypocrite who protests about Russia's war on Ukraine, or am I mixing up my fuckwits?LOL. Great post!
Elvis 2008
03-11-25, 19:47
Europe trusted the idea, that commercial business, profitable for both parties, eliminates the danger of war. Europe sold a lot of industrial product to the RF, and RF sold a lot of energy.
The idea of American "jealousy" just pops up.It was not jealousy. Trump in his first term asked why you all are sending money to Russia versus buying it from the USA when the USA is paying for your defense from Russia?
You Europeans thought he was stupid because USA LNG was much more expensive but then the war happens, and Trump was proven right.
I thought Biden blowing up Nordstream was dumb, but what is the point of our giving aid when Europe kept buying Russian gas?
I really do not care what Europe does in the future with Russian energy. Thing is though if you are going to buy it again, then the USA definitely needs to check out of NATO.
I was envious of France's nuclear program and then it was just one dumb thing after another. Solar in Germany? Russian gas? Europe's energy program has made no sense to me. You all need to sit those climate change weirdos on the sidelines.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-makes-100-square-kilometre-advance-kursk-region-2025-03-11/
Several days ago about 800 Russian serviceman went through 1. 4 meters in diameter 15 km gas pipeline to Sudzha which led to a collapse in Ukrainian ranks in the region.
Another crack of BS. Europe is not collapsing. Europe, in fact, is doing fine. Weaning off the Russian energy needle is the best thing that's happened to Europe in the last 50 years. <<.
You sound like someone with his head up his ass, because that is what you precisely are. You clearly have no idea what is going on in Europe if you think it's "doing fine".
With reference to your persistent anti-semitism smear, you reveal yourself to be one of those racist, Palestinian hating, neo colonisers who think it's ok to steal and occupy people's land and massacre their people. Are you the same hypocrite who protests about Russia's war on Ukraine, or am I mixing up my fuckwits?My response was once again lost in moderation and I don't feel like rewriting it all over again in its entirety, so here are two brief points.
1. Throwing pointless insults around is a sign of weakness, not strength. If you claim that I have "my head up my ass" it's not unimportant to explain why. You did an awful job in this department.
If Europe is not doing fine due to severing energy ties with the Russia Failed Fascist Mafia State, please be more specific. High energy prices don't tell me much, maybe because my ConEd prices have skyrocketed in the last 10-12 years without any wars (and the greedy bastards are planning on doubling them again this year).
2. If you're upset about being called an anti-Semite, stop using anti-Semitic tropes on public. Masking your canards under the guise of so-called antizionism is a very long and tired parlor trick. Anyone can see you coming from a mile away.
Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitic, in intent or effect, as it invokes anti-Jewish tropes, is used to disenfranchise, demonize, disparage, or punish all Jews and/or those who feel a connection to Israel, equates Zionism with Nazism and other genocidal regimes, and renders Jews less worthy of sovereignty and nationhood than other peoples and states.https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/anti-zionism
It was not jealousy. Trump in his first term asked why you all are sending money to Russia versus buying it from the USA when the USA is paying for your defense from Russia?
You Europeans thought he was stupid because USA LNG was much more expensive but then the war happens, and Trump was proven right.
I thought Biden blowing up Nordstream was dumb, but what is the point of our giving aid when Europe kept buying Russian gas?
I really do not care what Europe does in the future with Russian energy. Thing is though if you are going to buy it again, then the USA definitely needs to check out of NATO.
I was envious of France's nuclear program and then it was just one dumb thing after another. Solar in Germany? Russian gas? Europe's energy program has made no sense to me. You all need to sit those climate change weirdos on the sidelines.When Russia show they are as weak army as Putin is crazy, weak Ukrainians even succeeding to shoot Mockba when so far from war, Europe except Orban we don t care about, have to become without USA and let USA apart with their crazies we can t trust. High level market is Europe, when the USA fall with inflation start under Trump who knows nothing about economics and most of the world and many in USA hate. USA should become one of the most hated country, competing now with the worst.
My response was once again lost in moderation and I don't feel like rewriting it all over again in its entirety, so here are two brief points.
1. Throwing pointless insults around is a sign of weakness, not strength. If you claim that I have "my head up my ass" it's not unimportant to explain why. You did an awful job in this department.
If Europe is not doing fine due to severing energy ties with the Russia Failed Fascist Mafia State, please be more specific. High energy prices don't tell me much, maybe because my ConEd prices have skyrocketed in the last 10-12 years without any wars (and the greedy bastards are planning on doubling them again this year).
2. If you're upset about being called an anti-Semite, stop using anti-Semitic tropes on public. Masking your canards under the guise of so-called antizionism is a very long and tired parlor trick. Anyone can see you coming from a mile away.
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/anti-zionismMy response was once again lost in moderation .
I wonder why.
If Europe is not doing fine due to severing energy ties with the Russia Failed Fascist Mafia State, please be more specific. High energy prices don't tell me much, maybe because my ConEd prices have skyrocketed in the last 10-12 years without any wars (and the greedy bastards are planning on doubling them again this year).
Read your question twice, and the first sentence seems to be drivel. Disinclined to read it again. To indulge you, Germany and UK are doing badly from not just energy security and terrible choices over decades. Europe as a whole is doing badly economically, demographically, and socially. What have I not covered?
2. If you're upset about being called an anti-Semite, stop using anti-Semitic tropes on public. Masking your canards under the guise of so-called antizionism is a very long and tired parlor trick. Anyone can see you coming from a mile away.
ADL? You trot out the ADL to make your "point"? What else are you going to trot out next? A nazi to defend against criticisms of anti-nazism? The communist party's manifesto to defend against criticisms of Communism? A Russian government spokesman to defend against criticism of Russia?
Israel is a tyrannical neo colonist state which occupies and oppresses the Palestinians and your hypocrisy in condemning the Russians for the same whilst excusing the Israelis is morally obscene. I don't care what you call me- just know: no free shots, hero.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-makes-100-square-kilometre-advance-kursk-region-2025-03-11/
Several days ago about 800 Russian serviceman went through 1. 4 meters in diameter 15 km gas pipeline to Sudzha which led to a collapse in Ukrainian ranks in the region.As we all know, the best lie always has its origins in truth, so let's cut through Questner's.
Two things have happened during a short period of time.
1. "Genius" Russian military tacticians sent roughly 800 servicemen to crawl 12-15 km (info varies between sources) through a non-functioning gas pipeline to sneak-attack Ukrainian troops in Sudja.
2. Ukrainian troops left Sudja.
Questner used these two unrelated facts to invent the lie that the attack was a resounding success and led to Ukrainian collapse.
THE TRUTH.
The Russian sneak attack was a complete disaster. The pipe hadn't been cleaned of methane--as a result, hundreds of Russian servicemen suffocated, while others were ambushed by the Ukrainians who, by the way, had well been aware of the infiltration attempt and waited for the Russians to emerge outside. After the Russians on the outside were eliminated, the exit was sealed, which probably didn't help those who stayed behind.
Contrary to Questner's lies, the operation was a pure meat assault -- the only kind Russian commanders know. The servicemen were told that the pipe had been ventilated and cleaned of gases, that all means of communications and provisions had been set. All were lies.
The worst part of this Russian callousness toward their own troops is that it was completely unnecessary. The Ukrainian units had already started withdrawing simply because the Russians managed to establish fire control over their only logistical rout, the highway from Sumy to Sudja. For Ukraine it was time to retreat or lose thousands of men.
You'll have to forgive me for removing some of your verbal diarrhea that you sprinkled all over your post.
To indulge you, Germany and UK are doing badly from not just energy security and terrible choices over decades. Europe as a whole is doing badly economically, demographically, and socially. What have I not covered?To indulge me? Did you or did you not say this: "Naiveity: to entrust their energy needs to Russia, to such an extent that their industry is now collapsing under unbearable energy prices"?
First, I do not disagree that Europe shouldn't have entrusted anything at all to Russia, not only their energy needs.
Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!
Third, "doing badly economically, demographically, and socially"? Really? Put your big empty words where sun doesn't shine?
Either you have nothing to back your claim up, or you're plain lazy.
ADL? You trot out the ADL to make your "point"? What else are you going to trot out next? A nazi to defend against criticisms of anti-nazism? The communist party's manifesto to defend against criticisms of Communism? A Russian government spokesman to defend against criticism of Russia?So help me understand. You're putting the Anti-Defamation League, a non-violent, US-based advocacy group combating anti-Semitism next to the mass-homicidal political movements and governments of:
- The Nazis.
- The Communists.
- Putin's government.
Correct?
You know, there is no need to label you an anti-Semite. You do it wonderfully on your own.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-makes-100-square-kilometre-advance-kursk-region-2025-03-11/
Several days ago about 800 Russian serviceman went through 1. 4 meters in diameter 15 km gas pipeline to Sudzha which led to a collapse in Ukrainian ranks in the region.There goes Zelensky's Kursk 'Bargaining Chip'.
Also, I think Trump is delusional if he thinks the Russians are going to accept a 30 day ceasefire. It won't happen. I mean Putin would have to be a complete idiot to accept that.
Israel is a tyrannical neo colonist state which occupies and oppresses the Palestinians and your hypocrisy in condemning the Russians for the same whilst excusing the Israelis is morally obscene. I don't care what you call me- just know: no free shots, hero.That's the problem with these people. They are up in arms about Putin invading Ukraine but silent over the genocide in Gaza. The worst kind of hypocrites.
That's the problem with these people. They are up in arms about Putin invading Ukraine but silent over the genocide in Gaza. The worst kind of hypocrites.I told we have to give a real country to Palestinians, but when loving Russia, I think our world have to get rid of Putin who is not trustable and even fuck Russians.
There goes Zelensky's Kursk 'Bargaining Chip'.
Also, I think Trump is delusional if he thinks the Russians are going to accept a 30 day ceasefire. It won't happen. I mean Putin would have to be a complete idiot to accept that.We may as well witness the deal that has been already done to unfold and everything else is smoke and mirrors.
Telegram and public opinion agree with you, no ceasefire, as has been told in media many times over.
Russian oligarchy wants a deal where the rights of the Russian speaking in Ukraine to be restored, all right of the Orthodox church restored and properties returned (conditions onto Ukraine), half of the sanctions lifted and half of the frozen funds reopened (conditions both to EU and the US).
Ukraine has to recognize four regions plus Crimea as part of the RF. Ukraine has to amend its constitution to drop its aspirational NATO membership.
In my view Ukraine has also to become a federal state, - why not to unify and join Russia? - this way the balance will be restored. However, its not a position of political leadership as well as many others on the left and right who oppose the unification.
Again, I remain pessimistic, as I see very intimately the character of the scumbags in Kiev.
There goes Zelensky's Kursk 'Bargaining Chip'.
Also, I think Trump is delusional if he thinks the Russians are going to accept a 30 day ceasefire. It won't happen. I mean Putin would have to be a complete idiot to accept that.Of course, he would. How otherwise would he explain Russian warmongers that not a single announced objective of this war has been achieved, LOL?
Besides, all these Orcs accustomed to killings with impunity? I hear those few who've managed to return so far are already terrorizing the local population.
During the three years of the war in Ukraine, the Russian military participating in the invasion, who returned "to civilian life", killed and maimed more than 750 citizens. At least 378 people were killed, in another 376 cases people received life-threatening serious injuries, Verstka reports, which studied court files, media reports and publications about dead servicemen.No one needs hundreds of thousands of these marauders back, least of all Putin. He must find a way to grind them all down to a manageable number.
Hence, he's going to keep the meatgrinder revving as long as he's allowed to breeze.
P.S. BTW, is it true that you guys offed your namesake Girkin? Just curious.
We may as well witness the deal that has been already done to unfold and everything else is smoke and mirrors.
Telegram and public opinion agree with you, no ceasefire, as has been told in media many times over.
Russian oligarchy wants a deal where the rights of the Russian speaking in Ukraine to be restored, all right of the Orthodox church restored and properties returned (conditions onto Ukraine), half of the sanctions lifted and half of the frozen funds reopened (conditions both to EU and the US).
Ukraine has to recognize four regions plus Crimea as part of the RF. Ukraine has to amend its constitution to drop its aspirational NATO membership.
In my view Ukraine has also to become a federal state, - why not to unify and join Russia? - this way the balance will be restored. However, its not a position of political leadership as well as many others on the left and right who oppose the unification.
Again, I remain pessimistic, as I see very intimately the character of the scumbags in Kiev.I doubt not only Zelensky, but almost all Ukrainians would agree to join Russia and his criminal dictator Putin who killed so many Ukrainians. Ukraine is independant since 1991 and just want to keep same borders than since 2014 , when was already robbed Crimea and again attacked by Putin 3 years ago. Putin stayed in KGB in his mind, but not for money. Our world have to make Russia broke, to make Putin not able anymore to make war.
That's the problem with these people. They are up in arms about Putin invading Ukraine but silent over the genocide in Gaza. The worst kind of hypocrites.The issue with the loathsome hypocrites like Xpartan is that their hatred and their racist evilness garbed under their hypocritical duplicity is the cause of the suffering of very many people.
We are asked to weep for the holocaust of jews (even though it was 80 years ago and nothing to do with us whatsoever) and every year there's yet another holocaust movie, yet when Israels and the zionists in general are committing a holocaust on the Palestinians, the mere criticism of Israel is "anti semitism".
These evil monsters weaponise their history to commit wickedness in the present. Who will stand up to these monsters?
You'll have to forgive me for removing some of your verbal diarrhea that you sprinkled all over your post.
To indulge me? Did you or did you not say this: "Naiveity: to entrust their energy needs to Russia, to such an extent that their industry is now collapsing under unbearable energy prices"?
First, I do not disagree that Europe shouldn't have entrusted anything at all to Russia, not only their energy needs.
Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!
Third, "doing badly economically, demographically, and socially"? Really? Put your big empty words where sun doesn't shine?
Either you have nothing to back your claim up, or you're plain lazy.
So help me understand. You're putting the Anti-Defamation League, a non-violent, US-based advocacy group combating anti-Semitism next to the mass-homicidal political movements and governments of:
- The Nazis.
- The Communists.
- Putin's government.
Correct?
You know, there is no need to label you an anti-Semite. You do it wonderfully on your own.First, I do not disagree that Europe shouldn't have entrusted anything at all to Russia, not only their energy needs.
Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!
Third, "doing badly economically, demographically, and socially"? Really? Put your big empty words where sun doesn't shine?
You are an ignoramus, who doesn't know that he is an ignoramus. YES, energy prices in UK and Germany but especially the UK are having catastrophic impact on people's livelihood. You are too dumb to know or care, but people in the UK are literally facing the choices of heating or eating, with either the highest or one of the highest energy prices in the world, something like 3 x what Americans pay. It is unbearable for very many people despite the government subsidising these heavily, and were the subsidy removed most of UK would be in the dark. Speaking of which there is constant talk of the lights being switched off possibly because of energy issues. Meanwhile German industry is on its freaking knees! The You are talking out of your ass, I mean it's literally like talking to a freaking moron!
Oh BTW, just today, there's an article on how parts of UK are poorer than Malta and it looks to get worse. Look I could speak entire pages about how Europe is doing badl yeconomically, demographically and socially, but the fact that I even have to address this with you genuinely is astonishing, and you seriously need to deal with your moronity.
*So help me understand. You're putting the Anti-Defamation League, a non-violent, US-based advocacy group combating anti-Semitism next to the mass-homicidal political movements and governments of:
- The Nazis.
- The Communists.
- Putin's government.
Correct?
So, there are two kinds of people in the world (actually there are more but I don't want to fry your few remaining brain cells) : those who aren't that smart but know they are not that smart, and those who aren't that smart but don't realise this. The problem with people in the latter category to which you belong is that you may as well be talking to a goat. Your misapprehension is a logical fallacy- given the likelihood that you're not a Harvard Philosophy alumnus it's probably be not worthwhile to explain this to you but nonetheless I feel behoven to attempt a prefunctory explanation of your imbecility: giving you an logical reasoning that appealing to a biased source on something through analogy does not mean that the components of the analogy are the same.
Since you are probably on the floor now in a jello like state I'll put it even more simply: if I say " This man is as busy as a bee" it is not to say the man = a bee.
So yes, appealing to the PRO ISRAELI ADL to defend "anti semitism = anti zionism" IS like asking a nazi to defend how "anti nazism = hatred of Germany".
The evil zionists have committed a genocide on the Palestinians and gotten away with it because of hypocrites such as you. No matter how much you try and excuse your hypocrisy that truth doesn't change.
Now kindly extract your head out of your ass and give it a wobble.
Elvis 2008
03-13-25, 14:24
THE TRUTH.
The Russian sneak attack was a complete disaster. The pipe hadn't been cleaned of methane--as a result, hundreds of Russian servicemen suffocated, while others were ambushed by the Ukrainians who, by the way, had well been aware of the infiltration attempt and waited for the Russians to emerge outside. After the Russians on the outside were eliminated, the exit was sealed, which probably didn't help those who stayed behind.Okay, so now you are completely engulfed in Ukrainian propaganda. There is footage of soldiers SMOKING in the pipeline. The methane was pumped out, holes were cut in the pipeline, and the first soldiers moved in with oxygen tanks to make sure it was safe. There were a few who got sick and were treated. The Russians were well aware of the potential dangers of methane.
2. Ukrainian troops left Sudja. The Ukrainian units had already started withdrawing simply because the Russians managed to establish fire control over their only logistical rout, the highway from Sumy to Sudja. For Ukraine it was time to retreat or lose thousands of men.So the pipeline tactic was not necessary because Ukraine lost before then? And how does that change things in the bigger picture? They did not beat us with the pipeline trick, they beat us at regular war? That is even worse when it comes to the future of Ukraine.
Elvis 2008
03-13-25, 14:34
There goes Zelensky's Kursk 'Bargaining Chip'.
Also, I think Trump is delusional if he thinks the Russians are going to accept a 30 day ceasefire. It won't happen. I mean Putin would have to be a complete idiot to accept that.Well, Trump is talking tough in public but is probably conceding a lot in private. There is a lot of money squirreled away in Europe, and Russia would like the sanctions removed. Putin is going to drive a hard bargain to be sure but I think it will happen. The Russians will get most all of what they want, and I put the odds of it happening as better than 50-50. Putin needs to make Trump look good especially after Zelensky's performance.
Elvis 2008
03-13-25, 14:45
You'll have to forgive me for removing some of your verbal diarrhea that you sprinkled all over your post.
Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!https://apnews.com/article/europe-economy-france-germany-us-trade-0381c0a74385766bf13d7e6cb021608a
Even before the French and German governments collapsed, Europe's economy had enough difficulties. Tepid growth and lagging competitiveness versus the USA And China. An auto industry that's struggling. Where to find billions for defense against Russia? And now Donald Trump threatening tariffs.
Solutions will be harder to find while the two countries that make up almost half of the eurozone economy remain stuck in political paralysis well into 2025.
Where once there was the so-called French-German axis to push Europe ahead, now there's a vacuum.
Ratings agency Fitch revised France's outlook from "stable" to "negative," citing French Prime Minister Michel Barnier's challenges in trying to bring down the country's spiraling debt.
At the same time, Moody's Ratings delivered a cut to its rating outlook for Belgium.
German Economy Minister Robert Habeck on Wednesday revealed that the government in Berlin expects the country's economy to shrink for a second year in a row forecasting a contraction of around 0. 2 percent after previous predictions of 0.3 percent growth.
End of link.
As Putin said, and you did not listen, the Russian economy is now bigger than the German one. The sanctions on Russia have hurt Europe more than Russia. Forget the news agencies. If you read the Moscow forum, you have a monger in Russia saying that the Russian economy being bad is pure bullshit.
I told we have to give a real country to Palestinians, but when loving Russia, I think our world have to get rid of Putin who is not trustable and even fuck Russians.On what land? When the jews from Brooklyn or wherever come to pour in as "settlers" (the zionists mindfuck / gaslight you even with the nomenclature- let's not say it as it is: occupiers) into stolen land in defiance of UN resolutions. Yeah, the UN resolutions which were used to invade and assault Iraq to steal their oil and protect the zionists. The stench of hypocrisy should be nauseating to any decent person.
On what land? When the jews from Brooklyn or wherever come to pour in as "settlers" (the zionists mindfuck / gaslight you even with the nomenclature- let's not say it as it is: occupiers) into stolen land in defiance of UN resolutions. Yeah, the UN resolutions which were used to invade and assault Iraq to steal their oil and protect the zionists. The stench of hypocrisy should be nauseating to any decent person.Gaza land as Palestine, not a beach resort as told by stupid Trump, same than Jews were given a country.
https://apnews.com/article/europe-economy-france-germany-us-trade-0381c0a74385766bf13d7e6cb021608a
Even before the French and German governments collapsed, Europe's economy had enough difficulties. Tepid growth and lagging competitiveness versus the USA And China. An auto industry that's struggling. Where to find billions for defense against Russia? And now Donald Trump threatening tariffs.
Solutions will be harder to find while the two countries that make up almost half of the eurozone economy remain stuck in political paralysis well into 2025.
Where once there was the so-called French-German axis to push Europe ahead, now there's a vacuum.
Ratings agency Fitch revised France's outlook from "stable" to "negative," citing French Prime Minister Michel Barnier's challenges in trying to bring down the country's spiraling debt.
At the same time, Moody's Ratings delivered a cut to its rating outlook for Belgium.
German Economy Minister Robert Habeck on Wednesday revealed that the government in Berlin expects the country's economy to shrink for a second year in a row forecasting a contraction of around 0. 2 percent after previous predictions of 0.3 percent growth..Reality is Russia economics ls about to fall and Putin doesn't control anything about, but spending much more than income. Best would be to make Russia broke, not able anymore for war, and maybe blind Russians would wake up, from starvation, and get rid of their dictator, same like Ceacescu. Ro.
HotDog, I think you may be a bit hard on Xpartan. He's not stupid or evil. Actually I believe he's intelligent and good, just sadly deceived by neoconservatives and defense hawks. And not a realist.
Newton York
03-14-25, 05:09
How is the Ukraine economy doing so well when the stock market is crashing in these disunited States? I don't get it, doesn't make any sense. My brokerage account is so deep in the red it's ridiculous now, it's like covid times again. But Ukraine's economy is booming? I just don't get it. At this point, just about every economy on earth is doing better *sigh* FML.
Okay, so now you are completely engulfed in Ukrainian propaganda. There is footage of soldiers SMOKING in the pipeline. The methane was pumped out, holes were cut in the pipeline, and the first soldiers moved in with oxygen tanks to make sure it was safe. There were a few who got sick and were treated. The Russians were well aware of the potential dangers of methane.
So the pipeline tactic was not necessary because Ukraine lost before then? And how does that change things in the bigger picture? They did not beat us with the pipeline trick, they beat us at regular war? That is even worse when it comes to the future of Ukraine.I'm talking about the pipeline, for fuck's sake! That was a disaster that ended in hundreds of deaths.
Since you love Youtube videos so much, here's one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zZzi0HRdiI
But wait, here's another one.
https://youtu.be/cIRcP2IRlp8
All that was shot BY the RUSSIANS SOLDIERS themselves inside the FUCKING PIPE! Ukraine's propaganda, my ass!
Ukraine's propaganda? Listen to what THEY and Russian PRO-WAR MILBLOGGERS are saying about this calamity, you brainwashed ignoramus.
How is the Ukraine economy doing so well when the stock market is crashing in these disunited States? I don't get it, doesn't make any sense. My brokerage account is so deep in the red it's ridiculous now, it's like covid times again. But Ukraine's economy is booming? I just don't get it. At this point, just about every economy on earth is doing better *sigh* FML.What? Where did you get that Ukraine's economy is booming? Ukraine is attacked by a 1000-pound mad gorilla, how exactly can it be booming. Both Ukraine's and Russia's economies are focused on the war, and there's no such thing as booming.
HotDog, I think you may be a bit hard on Xpartan. He's not stupid or evil. Actually I believe he's intelligent and good, just sadly deceived by neoconservatives and defense hawks. And not a realist.Ah! The classic "intelligent but sadly deceived. " Nothing quite like a hefty dose of condescension, thank you!
"Sadly" was an especially nice touch.
Reiner Otto
03-14-25, 09:05
How is the Ukraine economy doing so well when the stock market is crashing in these disunited States? Military production, probably. Look at Russia. Their economy runs because of same reason.
Ah! The classic "intelligent but sadly deceived. " Nothing quite like a hefty dose of condescension, thank you!
"Sadly" was an especially nice touch.Thank you! And you’re welcome!
Elvis 2008
03-14-25, 19:21
I'm talking about the pipeline, for fuck's sake! That was a disaster that ended in hundreds of deaths.
Since you love Youtube videos so much, here's one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zZzi0HRdiI
But wait, here's another one.
https://youtu.be/cIRcP2IRlp8
All that was shot BY the RUSSIANS SOLDIERS themselves inside the FUCKING PIPE! Ukraine's propaganda, my ass!.LOL. You read the comments in your videos?
Here are the first three comments on the Sun video:
They were not wiped out.
According to many mappers it was a success. The Sun is lying as usual.
You mean the "dead" Russians that have capured Kubatkin north of Sudzha and linked up with ground forces attacking from the east?
And the first four comments on the second Kanal 13 video:
Because of this reason sudzha had been fallen I guess.
Who the hell captured the towns and cities then? 😂 wtf?
This channel smoking some good stuff. Banning immediately.
I don't even care about either of the two countries fighting. But this channel is just full of misinformation. Even DW and BBC said the operation was successful. And I also saw many other channel saying the same thing, but only this Kanal 13 is lying. Respect your viewers.
Ukraine's propaganda? Listen to what THEY and Russian PRO-WAR MILBLOGGERS are saying about this calamity, you brainwashed ignoramus.https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraines-kursk-blunder-opens-door-russian-invasion-north
The Kremlin has responded to President Donald Trump's request that the lives of the Ukrainian troops encircled in Russia's Kursk Region be spared, which was conveyed in a Friday Truth Social post by the president. Moscow says it is "sympathetic" to this request, and the pattern in the battle to retake Kursk has been to take POWs if weapons are laid down.
At the same time President Putin has called immediate surrender of all Ukrainian troops remaining on Russian soil. Trump had acknowledged that "thousands of Ukrainian troops" are "completely surrounded by the Russian military" in the southwest Kursk region.
End of link.
Gee, I do not remember Israel doing this with Gaza. Hell, those Israeli assholes were gunning down "Palestinians" waving white flags. And you are calling the Russian soldiers orcs? Yeah, you are the brain dead ignoramus. How dare you run around calling people anti-semitic when you have such little regard for human life?
You go around from forum to forum calling me names saying I am in a cult as if you are clear headed. Is this your idea of winning?
Putin has every right to slaughter those soldiers. They invaded Russia. If Putin were the monster you said he was, he would be slaughtering those Ukrainian soldiers right now.
When I saw Putin on Tucker Carlson, I saw Putin as a reluctant warrior, and this just shows me my impression of him was right.
QUOTE=HotDogThe issue with the loathsome hypocrites like Xpartan is that their hatred and their racist evilness garbed under their hypocritical duplicity is the cause of the suffering of very many people.
We are asked to weep for the holocaust of jews (even though it was 80 years ago and nothing to do with us whatsoever) and every year there's yet another holocaust movie, yet when Israels and the zionists in general are committing a holocaust on the Palestinians, the mere criticism of Israel is "anti semitism".
These evil monsters weaponise their history to commit wickedness in the present. Who will stand up to these monsters?/ QUOTE.
Many of The Bravest voices to stand up and be counted in the present conflict you refer to are to be found in Israel. https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-ex-defense-chief-yaalon-warns-israel-on-path-of-ethnic-cleansing-in-gaza/.
The path we are being dragged down is one of occupation, annexation and ethnic cleansing in the Gaza Strip," the prominent government critic told Democrat TV.
Nearer home we have an elected politician calling for the Final Solution!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-rep-tim-walberg-suggests-gaza-handled-nagasaki-hiroshima-rcna145752
Rep. Tim Walberg, are-Mich. , said this week that the conflict in Gaza should be over quickly "like Nagasaki and Hiroshima," and the United States should refrain from sending any humanitarian aid to the besieged enclave.
HotDog, I think you may be a bit hard on Xpartan. He's not stupid or evil. Actually I believe he's intelligent and good, just sadly deceived by neoconservatives and defense hawks. And not a realist.Dunno man, I mean the cognitive dissonance needed to be hostile to Russia when your own leader is doing pretty much the same thing: look what these neocons and zionists have ended up doing with this mahmud (- locking up and trying to deport a US resident for protesting against Israel's genocide. That could be me. Land of the free? Home of the brave? Seriously. America is turning into Russia on steroids. And Trump too is using the canards out of this Xpartan's book: it is anti semitic to attack Israel - Israel is our friend - it is Anti American - deprive this man of his liberty and his residency.
Dunno man, I mean the cognitive dissonance needed to be hostile to Russia when your own leader is doing pretty much the same thing: look what these neocons and zionists have ended up doing with this mahmud (- locking up and trying to deport a US resident for protesting against Israel's genocide. That could be me. Land of the free? Home of the brave? Seriously. America is turning into Russia on steroids. And Trump too is using the canards out of this Xpartan's book: it is anti semitic to attack Israel - Israel is our friend - it is Anti American - deprive this man of his liberty and his residency.Yes HotDog, Xpartan doesn't recognize the hypocrisy in supporting Netanyahu's war on Palestinians. And yes, on Israel and Gaza, he's shoulder to shoulder with President Trump.
Before the wars, Ukraine had 20 times more people than Gaza. Yet more civilians have died in Gaza. I doubt that Xpartan will ever believe that though as he prefers numbers the mayor of Mariupol pulled out of thin air.
The thing is though that there are many intelligent people who believe exactly as he does. You turn on CNN and the majority of the pundits do.
My belief is that the USA should support peace in Ukraine and Gaza, and not enable war. And you have to accept reality. Israel and Russia have vastly superior militaries. They're not going to lose. The USA should be twisting arms to bring this to an end, and is finally doing that in Ukraine.
Reiner Otto
03-15-25, 19:08
And you have to accept reality. Israel and Russia have vastly superior militaries. They're not going to lose. The USA should be twisting arms to bring this to an end, and is finally doing that in Ukraine.The difference between Israel making war on Gaza and Russia making war on Ukraine is, that Israels war on Gaza would not be possible without vast support from the USA.
And now the USA wants to be shoulder to shoulder with both the aggressors. Well, matches the old Wild West. Back to the roots.
It's quite bemusing to watch this intense collective drive to derail and hijack the topic of Russia's criminal war against Ukraine by injecting it with anti-Semitic tropes and lies. It almost feels like a concerted efforts between Putin propagandists, Trump's sympathizers and virulent anti-Semites.
Quite creepy, I must say.
Pahllus Maximus
03-16-25, 00:29
No more violence, have some elections and see what happens. The cash has already been extracted on both sides of the Atlantic by the real players, so it's time to stop pretending about motherhood statements like democracy that is little more than entertainment in the USA and the gullible that are somehow continually fooled by bullshit platitudes rather than anything concrete of direct benefit.
My own view is the people in charge need a pretty 18 year old with bee stung lips and short flouncy dress to provide a blowjob.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/ukraines-kursk-offensive-was-a-miserable-failure/
It was reported there that during the military operations in the Kursk direction, the AFU lost more than 67,630 servicemen, 393 tanks, 317 infantry fighting vehicles, 283 armored personnel carriers, 2,199 armored combat vehicles, 2,437 vehicles, 555 artillery pieces, 52 multiple launch rocket system launchers, including 13 HIMARS and 7 MLRS made in the USA, 26 anti-aircraft missile system launchers, a self-propelled anti-aircraft unit, 10 transport and loading vehicles, and 120 electronic warfare stations. The Ukrainian Armed Forces also lost 16 counter-battery radars, 10 air defense radars, 56 units of engineering and other equipment, including 23 engineering obstacle clearing vehicles, a your-77 mine clearing unit, 5 bridgelayers, an engineering reconnaissance vehicle, as well as 15 armored repair and recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.
Those losses are more than total US losses in Vietnam.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/ukraines-kursk-offensive-was-a-miserable-failure/
It was reported there that during the military operations in the Kursk direction, the AFU lost more than 67,630 servicemen, 393 tanks, 317 infantry fighting vehicles, 283 armored personnel carriers, 2,199 armored combat vehicles, 2,437 vehicles, 555 artillery pieces, 52 multiple launch rocket system launchers, including 13 HIMARS and 7 MLRS made in the USA, 26 anti-aircraft missile system launchers, a self-propelled anti-aircraft unit, 10 transport and loading vehicles, and 120 electronic warfare stations. The Ukrainian Armed Forces also lost 16 counter-battery radars, 10 air defense radars, 56 units of engineering and other equipment, including 23 engineering obstacle clearing vehicles, a your-77 mine clearing unit, 5 bridgelayers, an engineering reconnaissance vehicle, as well as 15 armored repair and recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.
Those losses are more than total US losses in Vietnam.Aha, yep, right. Vietnam.
Here is how they operate.
They would throw in a seemingly legit link, then add a bunch of hot, nonsensical BS.
"It was reported"? You don't say!
By who?
67,000 servicemen? There were only 10,000-12,000 Ukrainian troops in Kursk. You killed 600% of Ukrainians who crossed the border?
Some "independent thinkers" will believe anything as long as it's aligned with whatever worldviews they hold. So maybe Questner lies exclusively for Elvises of the world.
I have no idea if this is the case.
But now it was reported, so it must be.
It's quite bemusing to watch this intense collective drive to derail and hijack the topic of Russia's criminal war against Ukraine by injecting it with anti-Semitic tropes and lies. It almost feels like a concerted efforts between Putin propagandists, Trump's sympathizers and virulent anti-Semites.
Quite creepy, I must say.Don't know which Putin propagandist and which Trump sympathiser you're referring to, the anti-semite smears is a feature of your own hateful zionist hypocrisy and this is the main reason I've posted on this forum: to expose your loathsome hypocrisy. I don't expect to change zionist's minds-and furher Trump appears to be doubling down on this with his ethnic cleansing endeavours and genocidal threats- but you people's hypocrisy must be exposed to the world, regardless of the fact we are powerless under your overwhelming power. Your time will come and your evilness will be undone, in this life or the next.
the anti-semite smears is a feature of your own hateful zionist hypocrisy and this is the main reason I've posted on this forum: to expose your loathsome hypocrisy. I don't expect to change zionist's minds-and furher Trump appears to be doubling down on this with his ethnic cleansing endeavours and genocidal threats- but you people's hypocrisy must be exposed to the world, regardless of the fact we are powerless under your overwhelming power. Your time will come and your evilness will be undone, in this life or the next.Even when they vehemently deny their anti-Semitism and -- you'd think -- must be careful in what and how they say things, they just CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES.
"YOU people"?
"Powerless under YOUR overwhelming power"?
Really?
Under WHOSE power? WHOSE overwhelming power makes you suffer so much, Mr. HotDog?
The Department of State has used a working definition, along with examples, of antisemitism since 2010. On May 26, 2016, the 31 member states of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), of which the United States is a member, adopted a non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism at its plenary in Bucharest. This definition is consistent with and builds upon the information contained in the 2010 State Department definition. As a member of IHRA, the United States now uses this working definition and has encouraged other governments and international organizations to use it as well.
- Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
- Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
- Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.https://www.state.gov/defining-antisemitism
I'd say, the glove fits with abandon.
Son of Sam
Mad as a hatter
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/1520-6696%28198404%2920%3A2%3C150%3A%3AAID-JHBS2300200204%3E3.0.CO%3B2-0
https://www.jstor.org/stable/260396
https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/1997nbs/what_are_the_most_obscure_insane_or_interesting/
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/ukraines-kursk-offensive-was-a-miserable-failure/
It was reported there that during the military operations in the Kursk direction, the AFU lost more than 67,630 servicemen, 393 tanks, 317 infantry fighting vehicles, 283 armored personnel carriers, 2,199 armored combat vehicles, 2,437 vehicles, 555 artillery pieces, 52 multiple launch rocket system launchers, including 13 HIMARS and 7 MLRS made in the USA, 26 anti-aircraft missile system launchers, a self-propelled anti-aircraft unit, 10 transport and loading vehicles, and 120 electronic warfare stations. The Ukrainian Armed Forces also lost 16 counter-battery radars, 10 air defense radars, 56 units of engineering and other equipment, including 23 engineering obstacle clearing vehicles, a your-77 mine clearing unit, 5 bridgelayers, an engineering reconnaissance vehicle, as well as 15 armored repair and recovery vehicles and a command and staff vehicle.
Those losses are more than total US losses in Vietnam.It was a colossal failure no doubt. It actually failed fairly quickly at the start because the real goal of this incursion was to capture the Kursk nuclear power plant, which they failed to do so. After that, it was a suicidal mission to stay there, they diverted resources from the Donbas where the Russians made big gains in the last 6 months. All for political consumption for Zelensky to show the west that the Ukrainians still have some fight left in them so the money and arms keep flowing. The failure in Kursk compares to another huge failure which was the 'counter offensive' in 2023 which also failed miserably.
Until the last Ukrainian.
The difference between Israel making war on Gaza and Russia making war on Ukraine is, that Israels war on Gaza would not be possible without vast support from the USA.
Are you fucking kidding me? The war in Ukraine is a PROXY WAR between the United States and Russia! Without American support, weapons, intel and money, Ukraine wouldn't last long at all. And don't forget, the primary instigator in making sure this war happened is USA aka NATO.
Yes HotDog, Xpartan doesn't recognize the hypocrisy in supporting Netanyahu's war on Palestinians. And yes, on Israel and Gaza, he's shoulder to shoulder with President Trump.
Before the wars, Ukraine had 20 times more people than Gaza. Yet more civilians have died in Gaza. I doubt that Xpartan will ever believe that though as he prefers numbers the mayor of Mariupol pulled out of thin air.
.Even if he believed it, he would not care. Because disgusting people like Xpartan have dehumanized Palestinians. To them they are 'human animals'. Palestinian lives are worthless to them. That is the reality.
It was a colossal failure no doubt.For 8 months 10,000 Ukraine troops held their ground against 60,000 Orcs and North Koreans.
1. For the first time since the WW2 the "sacred" motherrussia was violated in the most comical and persuasive way.
2. The Russians fled or surrendered. No troops stationed in Kursk offered even the slightest hint of resistance.
3. The Russian civilians either fled or began befriending AFU right away. Not even one Molotov cocktail was thrown in Kursk.
4. No, comrade, the Ukrainians never planned "to capture the Kursk nuclear power plant". If your superiors weren't cretins, they would never ask you to spread this idiocy.
5. For 8 fucking months, the Orcs couldn't get anywhere until they massed up a 60,000 strong army including 12,000 cyborgs from the hermit kingdom. 6 to 1 -- that's the math that allowed you to "liberate" Kursk.
6. Well, that and incessant bombing of your own civilians. Kursk is lying in ruins. We'll probably never know how many Russian civilians have died in the rubbles from your bombs. Like I said, Russians don't give a fuck who they're killing.
Russians evacuated to Ukraine after Kursk shelter bombed
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/12/ukraine-russia-kursk-civilians-sudzha-shelter
BTW, yesterday your chieftain promised to kill or capture all Ukrainians in Kursk. How's that going, I wonder? How are things in Pokrovsk, Kupyansk, or Toretsk that you "fully liberated" 38 days ago, LOL? How about elsewhere?
And before I forgot, is all good with your meat fodder? I've heard the darnedest thing.
Flights out of Russia sell out after Putin orders partial call-up
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/flights-out-russia-sell-out-after-putin-orders-partial-call-up-2022-09-21/
Seems to me, the Kursk SMO has achieved quite something after all, LOLOL.
The difference between Israel making war on Gaza and Russia making war on Ukraine is, that Israels war on Gaza would not be possible without vast support from the USA.
And now the USA wants to be shoulder to shoulder with both the aggressors. Well, matches the old Wild West. Back to the roots.I worry about crazy Trump and Putin conversation, when Trump support more Putin to make business with him and wants to fuck poor weak Ukrainians. When they are so courageous versus dictator Putin, I wish they will be same with Neron Trump. They should see how the world want to resist to such crazy who will make fall USA economics.
Until the last Ukrainian.I listened to one of Zelensky's side kicks say just that about Kursk yesterday. Hiter's orders, hiold fat (or we'll give you a bullet).
L.
Even when they vehemently deny their anti-Semitism and -- you'd think -- must be careful in what and how they say things, they just CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES.
"YOU people"?
"Powerless under YOUR overwhelming power"?
Really?
Under WHOSE power? WHOSE overwhelming power makes you suffer so much, Mr. HotDog?
https://www.state.gov/defining-antisemitism
I'd say, the glove fits with abandon.This glove fits you zionists one and all.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNddrYS9h/
Zionists control America. End of.
No more violence, have some elections and see what happens. The cash has already been extracted on both sides of the Atlantic by the real players, so it's time to stop pretending about motherhood statements like democracy that is little more than entertainment in the USA and the gullible that are somehow continually fooled by bullshit platitudes rather than anything concrete of direct benefit.
My own view is the people in charge need a pretty 18 year old with bee stung lips and short flouncy dress to provide a blowjob.You mean really democratic with fair true information in Russia? When Putin is elected like north Korean. Zelensky is legal according to Ukraine constitution and supported by Ukrainians versus Russians who attacked, after Crimea on 2014 .
Reiner Otto
03-17-25, 12:51
1) The war in Ukraine is a PROXY WAR between the United States and Russia! 2) And don't forget, the primary instigator in making sure this war happened is USA aka NATO.1) Assuming, your hypothesis is correct, then still the minor problem, that Russia did the first shot.
2) Another hypothesis. Opposing the fact, that Russia also signed the Budapest Memo, to guarantee UAs borders.
Unfortunately, UA did not take Putler into consideration. And his puppet, called Trumpi. Both of them do not care about agreements. Unless into their own favor.
Anyway, Israel has the American favor, to get uninterrupted supply of weapons, whatever they want. To continue the killing in Gaza. Although being the attacker.
1) Assuming, your hypothesis is correct, then still the minor problem, that Russia did the first shot.
2) Another hypothesis. Opposing the fact, that Russia also signed the Budapest Memo, to guarantee UAs borders.
Unfortunately, UA did not take Putler into consideration. And his puppet, called Trumpi. Both of them do not care about agreements. Unless into their own favor.
Anyway, Israel has the American favor, to get uninterrupted supply of weapons, whatever they want. To continue the killing in Gaza. Although being the attacker.I agree USA under shameful Trump help criminal Netanyahou and Trump seems to like Putin cum, for new business, when he has only taxes versus EU and China, so he tries to fuck and rob poor weak Ukrainians. USA are really not MAGA, but narrow minded country. I would be happy Trump and Musk make fall USA economics.
Don't know which Putin propagandist and which Trump sympathiser you're referring toOh really? Say no more, I'm here to help.
Questner and BlahRed actively and persistently peddle the official Russian Failed Fascist Mafia State narrative.
Jarango, Jojosun and Riina are more into raining shit on Ukraine, but they're too lazy and inconsistent to make a sustained effort.
Our complimentary Tiny is not a propagandist per se, but he's an intense Russophile with blinders on.
Of course, some of them can easily be the same person, but determining this is far beyond the scope of this dissertation.
This glove fits you zionists one and all.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNddrYS9h/
Zionists control America. End of.Like I said, can't help themselves. The prosecution rests.
End of.
Good news: The Russian forces lost over 100,000 troops in the last 3. 5 months.
Bad news: Not all of these Orcs are dead. Some will even have a chance to re-join the glorious Russian Army. On crutches.
As the war has escalated, Ukraine's tally, which includes both those wounded and killed, has found that Russia has lost more than 100,000 troops in the last three-and-a-half months. Newsweek has yet to verify this.
Russia's loss of troops also spiked since June 2024 and reached its peak in December 2024 and January 2025.
Moscow's loss of soldiers reached approximately 2,000 per day in January, but it has since fallen to be anywhere from 1,200 to 1,500 soldiers per day in February and March.
Since the war began when Russia illegally invaded Ukraine in 2022, Kyiv has found that Russia has lost a total of 895,450 men, according to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.https://www.newsweek.com/russian-losses-ukraine-cross-grim-2025-milestone-2045796
Good news: The Russian forces lost over 100,000 troops in the last 3. 5 months.
Bad news: Not all of these Orcs are dead. Some will even have a chance to re-join the glorious Russian Army. On crutches.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-losses-ukraine-cross-grim-2025-milestone-2045796100,000 Orcs in 3.5 months.
Good news: The Russian forces lost over 100,000 troops in the last 3.5 months.
Bad news: Not all of these Orcs are dead. Some will even have a chance to re-join the glorious Russian Army. On crutches.
Orcs, what kind of low life characterizes humans as orcs? A low life zionist, that's who. You zionists are as big monsters as these so called orcs.
1) Assuming, your hypothesis is correct, then still the minor problem, that Russia did the first shot.Assuming? Do you live under a rock or what? People like Boris Johnson and Lindsey Graham have openly boasted that this is a proxy war between NATO (USA / EU) and Russia using the poor Ukrainians as canon fodder.
2) Another hypothesis. Opposing the fact, that Russia also signed the Budapest Memo, to guarantee UAs borders.
NATO also said they would not expand eastwards, and they did. The root cause of this war is NATO expansion.
Good news: The Russian forces lost over 100,000 troops in the last 3. 5 months.
Bad news: Not all of these Orcs are dead. Some will even have a chance to re-join the glorious Russian Army. On crutches.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-losses-ukraine-cross-grim-2025-milestone-2045796Where is the evidence you stupid bastard? A biased western media link is not evidence.
Assuming? Do you live under a rock or what? People like Boris Johnson and Lindsey Graham have openly boasted that this is a proxy war between NATO (USA / EU) and Russia using the poor Ukrainians as canon fodder.
NATO also said they would not expand eastwards, and they did. The root cause of this war is NATO expansion.No, this war is only due to crazy Putin, when nobody threatened Russia. He will cum on Trump but won t stop to kill and rob Ukrainians.
No, this war is only due to crazy Putin, when nobody threatened Russia. He will cum on Trump but won t stop to kill and rob Ukrainians.Bro, with all due respect, this stuff is not your forte.
Where is the evidence you stupid bastard? A biased western media link is not evidence.You expect this zionist motherfucker to care about evidence? He will make ad hominem attacks instead of refuting evidence presented to him.
This POS on one hand uses dehumanising language like orcs whilst tensing silent as his fellow zionists massacre hundreds of civilians, even just today. Fucking hypocrite.
Oh really? Say no more, I'm here to help.
Questner and BlahRed actively and persistently peddle the official Russian Failed Fascist Mafia State narrative.
Jarango, Jojosun and Riina are more into raining shit on Ukraine, but they're too lazy and inconsistent to make a sustained effort.
Our complimentary Tiny is not a propagandist per se, but he's an intense Russophile with blinders on.
Of course, some of them can easily be the same person, but determining this is far beyond the scope of this dissertation.
Like I said, can't help themselves. The prosecution rests.
End of.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-airstrikes-ceasefire-hamas-hostages-netanyahu-b2717353.html
Read this, evil zionist, and know that your soul belongs in hell.
100,000 Orcs in 3.5 months.
Good news: The Russian forces lost over 100,000 troops in the last 3.5 months.
Bad news: Not all of these Orcs are dead. Some will even have a chance to re-join the glorious Russian Army. On crutches.
Orcs, what kind of low life characterizes humans as orcs? A low life zionist, that's who.To answer your question, it's the Ukrainian people who "characterize" those "human beings" as Orcs.
I doubt, though, many Ukrainians "characterize" themselves as Zionists, but you could ask them if in doubt.
You zionists are as big monsters as these so called orcs.Huh? In two consecutive sentences you "characterize" Russians as "human beings" and "monsters like Orcs". You seem to be one thoroughly confused fella, huh?
Assuming? Do you live under a rock or what? People like Boris Johnson and Lindsey Graham have openly boasted that this is a proxy war between NATO (USA / EU) and Russia using the poor Ukrainians as canon fodder.
No, they haven't.
NATO also said they would not expand eastwards, and they did. The root cause of this war is NATO expansion.No, it didn't say that.
Where is the evidence you stupid bastard? A biased western media link is not evidence.LOL. What evidence do you accept?
You expect this zionist motherfucker to care about evidence? He will make ad hominem attacks instead of refuting evidence presented to him.
This POS on one hand uses dehumanising language like orcs whilst tensing silent as his fellow zionists massacre hundreds of civilians, even just today. Fucking hypocrite.Ad hominem, huh?
A humble request for MODS: Please open a corresponding forum in Israel section where "anti-Zionists" could bash "Zionists" to their heart's content rather than pollute this thread, which doesn't have anything to do with the Middle East, either politically or geographically.
No, it didn't say that.
LOL. What evidence do you accept?Yeah you don't have any other than a BS link. Dumbass.
Bro, with all due respect, this stuff is not your forte.And Ukrainians feel so fucked by schizophrene Trump the robber. I wish Europe will help them versus criminal dictator Putin who attacked them, after robbering them Crimea. Only funny is Putin asking for no more Zelensky who is supported by Ukrainians. Is dictator scared by Zelensky who was able to resist to big Russia for 3 years, showing to the world Russian army is weak, needing Wagner and 12000 north Koreans meat. All my support to Ukrainians, versus friends Putin who hold Trump balls in his hand.
To answer your question, it's the Ukrainian people who "characterize" those "human beings" as Orcs.
I doubt, though, many Ukrainians "characterize" themselves as Zionists, but you could ask them if in doubt.
Huh? In two consecutive sentences you "characterize" Russians as "human beings" and "monsters like Orcs". You seem to be one thoroughly confused fella, huh?** To answer your question, it's the Ukrainian people who "characterize" those "human beings" as Orcs.
I doubt, though, many Ukrainians "characterize" themselves as Zionists, but you could ask them if in doubt. *.
Yes, I too doubt that most Ukrainians are zionists. Why would they be? Being the victims of interloping aggressors- they would be mightly stupid, wouldn't they? If anything, I would suspect they are anti zionists.
The point however is not them but YOU and your hypocrisy in selectively dehumanising one aggressor whilst being an apologist for another.
I may or may not be a "confused fella" but I'm not a fucking hypocrite, at least, like you are.
Questner, You're the only one here who follows Russian media. And your view is closer to the Kremlin's than other posters. So I have some questions.
How does the Russian press view the recent call between Putin and Trump? Is this being viewed as possibly the beginning of the end of the war? Or is the press rather emphasizing the rapprochement in Russian / United States relations?
Is Russia indeed not willing to agree to a comprehensive temporary ceasefire unless western military aid and intelligence sharing is stopped? Or is that just the starting Russian position for purposes of negotiation?
Ultimately do you believe Russia will accept either an Ukraine that’s not neutral, or alternately a neutral Ukraine with western security guarantees?
Do you believe it's more likely the war ends in 2025, or drags on for years longer?
Thanks.
QThanks.It is quite amazing you babble on without even clicking on Russia Today, Sputnik etc. Are you an Xpartan bot?
Questner, You're the only one here who follows Russian media. And your view is closer to the Kremlin's than other posters. So I have some questions.
How does the Russian press view the recent call between Putin and Trump? Is this being viewed as possibly the beginning of the end of the war? Or is the press rather emphasizing the rapprochement in Russian / United States relations?
Is Russia indeed not willing to agree to a comprehensive temporary ceasefire unless western military aid and intelligence sharing is stopped? Or is that just the starting Russian position for purposes of negotiation?
Ultimately do you believe Russia will accept either an Ukraine that's not neutral, or alternately a neutral Ukraine with western security guarantees?.All Russian medias suck Putin, or they would have big problems. Putin is elected like in north Korea. No real Pravda in Russia, but a dictator. Russians would have a much better life if they woke up and got rid of him. Pity, when a so great country with superb women with who, drunk guys there are not able. After Putin, I would be happy to enjoy there again.
It is quite amazing you babble on without even clicking on Russia Today, Sputnik etc. Are you an Xpartan bot?Questner's comments are often more insightful than what's on RT, or in the western press.
To answer your question, yes, I’m a bot, created by Xpartan with the help of ChatGPT!
Ad hominem, huh?
A humble request for MODS: Please open a corresponding forum in Israel section where "anti-Zionists" could bash "Zionists" to their heart's content rather than pollute this thread, which doesn't have anything to do with the Middle East, either politically or geographically.Look zionist, you may own America, but you don't own this forum so you do not get to wag the forum owners' dog.
Even mongerers have a sense of propriety and want nothing to do with soonish or the evil state of Israel.
Elvis 2008
03-19-25, 23:14
Ad hominem, huh?
A humble request for MODS: Please open a corresponding forum in Israel section where "anti-Zionists" could bash "Zionists" to their heart's content rather than pollute this thread, which doesn't have anything to do with the Middle East, either politically or geographically.Yeah, you call me in a cult, call other people Rusophiles, Putin dick suckers, orcs, and antisemitic, and now you run like a baby to mommy about the phrase zionist?
If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Do you believe it's more likely the war ends in 2025, or drags on for years longer?
Dragging on for years seems to be the reality.
So I have some questions.
Is Russia indeed not willing to agree to a comprehensive temporary ceasefire unless western military aid and intelligence sharing is stopped? Or is that just the starting Russian position for purposes of negotiation?
I'll take a crack at some of these questions for fun and express my opinion.
I think Putin stuck to his guns and gave very little, if anything away. This 30 day ceasefire on ENERGY infrastructure means very little. So it means in essence that for 30 days, Russia will not attack Ukrainian energy infrastructure, right? Well, anyone that has been following the Russian attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure targets (like I have) would know that the Russians usually carry out 1 attack each month. And the last one was a few days before this ceasefire was agreed upon. So this ceasefire means very little. And yes, this may lead to somewhere IF western aid and intelligence is stopped.
Ultimately do you believe Russia will accept either an Ukraine thats not neutral, or alternately a neutral Ukraine with western security guarantees?I think this is a silly question. Russia will never ever accept a Ukraine that is not neutral. If you have been watching the news, Trump and his team have already said Ukraine will never join NATO so that sticking point appears to have been settled between the 2 great powers here (USA and Russia). Ukraine will just be informed of their decisions.
Do you believe it's more likely the war ends in 2025, or drags on for years longer?
Thanks.This is a tricky one. The Euros want to fight on for a long time using the poor Ukrainians. If Trump is really serious about ending this and it does look like he is, if he cuts off ALL AID to Ukraine, makes the territorial concessions plus neutrality for Ukraine that the Russians are demanding, then I think there is a chance for the war ending this year. The Euros can't do dick without American support.
Questner, You're the only one here who follows Russian media. And your view is closer to the Kremlin's than other posters. So I have some questions.
How does the Russian press view the recent call between Putin and Trump? Is this being viewed as possibly the beginning of the end of the war? Or is the press rather emphasizing the rapprochement in Russian / United States relations?
Is Russia indeed not willing to agree to a comprehensive temporary ceasefire unless western military aid and intelligence sharing is stopped? Or is that just the starting Russian position for purposes of negotiation?
Ultimately do you believe Russia will accept either an Ukraine thats not neutral, or alternately a neutral Ukraine with western security guarantees?
Do you believe it's more likely the war ends in 2025, or drags on for years longer?
Thanks.Like in the Bible, everything is truth, but not all the truth. You have to be an intelligent reader to follow any press including Russian as it caters to different audience.
The Russian press is highly choreographed with official statements. The recent call was audio only and the longest in history for 2 hours and 28 minutes. Most of it is dark matter, that is topics that were not for the press. Diplomacy like money likes privacy. The end of the war as for now is far away. As we like to say, the caravan moves on while dogs are barking. There is a confusion sometimes between the US / Russia dialogue and the war in Ukraine. Clearly the first is more important and the war is just an offspring of the long term deterioration. Obviously, the relationship between the US and the RF is a broader topic, more technical and opaque so we see fewer guests and journalists talk about it.
30 days ceasefire may come to fruition and the technical talks in Jidda will resume on the 23rd of March. We need the Ukrainian mobilization to stop as it will be much easier to mobilize during the ceasefire because of lesser perception risk and higher wages all bankrolled by the West. I expect the period to cover the Orthodox Easter into first 2 weeks of May. Military aid should stop. Sharing of intelligence has never stopped, don't be gullible.
We need a neutral non-nuclear Ukraine with all issues permanently resolved and all hostilities ended. I would prefer Russian guarantees only as we have now with Belarus.
You can also see how top to bottom approach may work and draw a plan on a napkin. When you will draw it visually you will see that Ukraine has to call the elections and amend its constitution.
Hopefully this won't fall on deaf ears.
There are some topics that usually can't be intelligently discussed. That's why for example this forum is not about gay stuff as the subject can't be discussed in civilized matter.
The tragic events in the Middle East in the past and at present in my view is another example of such topic. And if it's discussed it should be done in a different thread and with proper moderation.
There are also soft topics which cover the tragedy of war itself. To both sides of this civil conflict the greatest enemy is war.
Here is the recent article from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meduza This news media has been banned in Russia for good reasons. However the article has not been published in English. As with RT the content is very different depending on the audience, internal or external.
Google translate will struggle a bit with this one, and I can provide annotations to abbreviations, technical terms, colloquials and expletives.
https://meduza.io/feature/2025/03/17/otsyuda-vyhod-odin-trista-ili-dvesti
(200 means dead, 300 means injured, 500 means deserter).
Yeah, you call me in a cult, call other people Rusophiles, Putin dick suckers, orcs, and antisemitic, and now you run like a baby to mommy about the phrase zionist?
If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!None of the epithets you listed represent ad hominem attacks.
Yes, I called Tiny a Russophile because that's what he is.
Yes, I called Mr. Hotdog an anti-Semite because that's what he is.
I don't remember if I called Trump, Vance at al Putin cocksuckers, but that sounds about right, so be it.
And yes, I called you a member of the Donald Trump cult because that's what you are.
In all these cases, I've thoroughly explained and provided irrefutable evidence as to why these individuals, including you, are what they are.
That's not ad hominem attacks. Not even close.
On the other hand, calling opponents motherfuckers and POS, is nothing but.
Now that this part of your misapprehension sorted, let me explain a thing or two about cooking facilities, since you appear to be confused with them as well.
I have no issues with kitchens. I don't mind kitchens. It's normal when temps rise in a kitchen. Not every kitchen, of course, I guess, sushi chefs don't need all that heat, do they?
But here is the kicker: whatever you cook in the kitchen, should belong in that particular kitchen, otherwise why do we even need all these forums and threads and shit.
Are you with me so far?
Let's move on. The kitchen called "Stupid shit in Ukraine" has nothing to do with the state of Israel, Gaza Strip or the Middle East in general.
Furthermore, anti-Semites, Russian propacondoms and Trump's cult members are using this kitchen inappropriately to dilute and poison the equipment dedicated to the heroic Ukrainian fight against Putin onslaught, which is nowadays wickedly supported by Trump and his allies.
The reason I'm asking the Mods to create a new kitchen is to make sure that whenever any anti-Semites, Trump cultists and Russian propacondoms feel the need to bash Jews and Israel, they were able to do so IN A FACILITY THAT WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR THAT PARTICULAR AFFLICTION. Whether the Mods will be willing to do so or not I have no idea, but to me that would be the most logical solution.
You know logical, Elvis? Look it up.
Dragging on for years seems to be the reality.Only way to stop this war is to isolate more Russia, to really block their economics and values, to make them broke, for no more money for war. Unfortunately, stupid Trump gives hopes to Putin to make new business, when Russian economics now is not far from falling, when more and more difficult to pay. But robber Trump prefer to fuck Ukrainians. Can t trust him, nor Putin of course.
They calculate death rates as if it was a regular war, at 1:3 / 1:4 dead to wounded.
But this is not a regular war. Wounded Orcs don't often get delivered from the death fields. If they can't crawl back to safety, they're goners more often than not.
Then there are MIAs who no one seems to include in any counts. There were over 50,000 MIA for January 2025. Obviously the vast majority of those are gone.
And then there is another huge group of invisibles -- the fodder meat from Crimea, DNR and LNR. Considering that there are practically no military-age men left (especially in the 3-letter "republics") that's probably another 100,000 or very close.
Contrary to the famous adage, the numbers can lie. The UK's estimate is a wishful thinking.
The UK's Ministry of Defence estimates 200,000 to 250,000 Russian troops have been killed since the war began in February 2022.
That is the largest death toll of Kremlin forces since Germany's invasion of Russia in 1941.
The MoD added: 'President Putin and the Russian military leadership highly likely prioritise their conflict objectives over the lives of Russian soldiers.'
The UK research also showed Russia has incurred an estimated 900,000 casualties, most recruited from impoverished regions and ethnic minorities.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pm-will-deploy-troops-as-putin-would-breach-a-ceasefire-without-them/ar-AA1Blt0U
Igor Lipsits is one of the most prominent Russian economists, and he's rarely been wrong. Here is his interview in English for anyone who wants to know how splendidly Russian economy is doing. Yes, really.
Putins economic illusion is crumbling top Russian economist warns of looming collapse
"Putin's economic boom is an illusion, and it's coming to an end. Even before the war, official statistics were questionable, but now they are outright manipulated.
The government is still trying to put on a brave face, but even Putin has started to admit that growth is "slowing." Thats just their way of preparing people for bad news. The reality is that the boom is already over.
For years, Russia poured massive amounts of money, about $180-200 billion per year into the economy, particularly the military-industrial complex. This initially created the appearance of economic growth.
But at the same time, it destroyed civilian industries. Russias economy is now flooded with money, but there arent enough goods to absorb it. Imports are shrinking, and domestic production is failing.
To slow inflation, the government raised deposit interest rates, which temporarily trapped money in bank accounts. But when rates fall, those savings will flood the market all at once, triggering hyperinflation."
"Meanwhile, entire industries are collapsing. The coal industry is the most affected -- virtually the entire sector is unprofitable. In Kuzbass, a region where around 200,000 people rely on coal mining, a social crisis is looming. Many will lose their jobs.
Steel production is also in trouble. Russia lost its export markets, and domestic construction has slowed because the government stopped subsidizing mortgages. Regional budgets, which used to fund infrastructure repairs, are also struggling. Without government purchases, demand for steel pipes and other materials has plummeted.
This crisis is spreading across forestry, aviation, transportation, and logistics. Each month, another industry succumbs to the economic metastases of the war."
"The Rubles strength is an illusion. Everyone knows the ruble is being artificially propped upincluding me. This isnt the result of market forces, but direct government intervention.
Putin and the Finance Ministry are forcing large exporters to sell more foreign currency, which temporarily strengthens the ruble. This helps slow inflation for imported goods.
But exporters are suffering. When they convert their foreign earnings, they get fewer rubles per dollar, yet their domestic costs -- wages, energy, resources -- remain high.
Russian companies are begging Putin to let the ruble weaken to at least 100 rubles per dollar. The government will have to comply eventually, and when they do, inflation will return with full force."
"Russia's budget Is running on empty. Just in the first two months of 2024, the deficit hit a record highdouble the amount projected for the entire year.
Military spending remains massive, while tax revenue is falling. The government raised the corporate profit tax from 20% to 25%, expecting higher revenue. But with so many industries now operating at a loss, theres nothing to tax.
The Finance Ministry admitted that in 2023, they collected 500 billion rubles ($5.5 billion) less than expected in profit taxes. Oil and gas revenues are also disappointing.
To plug the gap, the government is draining its emergency reserves. The National Wealth Fund has shrunk from over 8 trillion rubles ($88 billion) at the start of the war to just 34 trillion rubles ($3344 billion) today.
If they used it to cover the deficit, it would be gone in one year.
The Kremlin is now borrowing heavily, but that creates another problem -- rising debt and higher interest payments. Nearly 10% of Russias budget is now spent just on servicing existing debt.
Russia Is running out of options. Soon, the Kremlin wont be able to hide the truth: Russias economy isnt just slowing down; it's on the verge of collapse."https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/putin-s-economic-illusion-is-crumbling-top-russian-economist-warns-of-looming-collapse/ar-AA1Bl9qV
Zelensky is fully right not to accept Ukrainians being robbed by shameful robber Trump, when they were already robbed Crimea by Trump friend Putin.
None of the epithets you listed represent ad hominem attacks.
Yes, I called Tiny a Russophile because that's what he is.
Yes, I called Mr. Hotdog an anti-Semite because that's what he is.
I don't remember if I called Trump, Vance at al Putin cocksuckers, but that sounds about right, so be it.
And yes, I called you a member of the Donald Trump cult because that's what you are.
In all these cases, I've thoroughly explained and provided irrefutable evidence as to why these individuals, including you, are what they are.
That's not ad hominem attacks. Not even close.
On the other hand, calling opponents motherfuckers and POS, is nothing but.
Now that this part of your misapprehension sorted, let me explain a thing or two about cooking facilities, since you appear to be confused with them as well..No imbecile, your "anti semite" accusation is both technically and logically flawed as it is flawed in veracity. A) Palestinians are semites too- and in fact Scientific evidence shows them to be more semitic than the Ashkenazi jews are- and I am an ardent supporter of Palestinians. B) I don't genuinely have anything against Jews- but I have everything against Jews and Christians and any other person for that matter who supports the genocidal assaults on Palestinians and the theft of Palestinian's lands by Israel- ie zionists. You don't do either scientific evidence or logical reasoning, do you?
The fact that you actually think you provided "irrefutable evidence" troubles me greatly about mindsets of not just you but those of your ilk whose perverted mindset is the cause of half the world's political ills.
Now spew your anti Russian bile again- we could do with the spectacle.
- and I am an ardent supporter of Palestinians. B) I don't genuinely have anything against Jews- but I have everything against Jews and Christians and any other person for that matter who supports the genocidal assaults on Palestinians and the theft of Palestinian's lands by Israel- ie zionists.
I like your statement. Thanks.
I was kind of sad after the Putin / Trump conversation didn't produce much. Now after hearing Blood Red's, Questner's and Riina's thoughts I'm more depressed. I thought there was a good chance this would be over soon. Unfortunately probably not.
There are also soft topics which cover the tragedy of war itself. To both sides of this civil conflict the greatest enemy is war.
Here is the recent article from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meduza This news media has been banned in Russia for good reasons. However the article has not been published in English. As with RT the content is very different depending on the audience, internal or external.
Google translate will struggle a bit with this one, and I can provide annotations to abbreviations, technical terms, colloquials and expletives.
https://meduza.io/feature/2025/03/17/otsyuda-vyhod-odin-trista-ili-dvesti
(200 means dead, 300 means injured, 500 means deserter).Thank you for turning me on to this website Questner. It has some excellent articles. I encourage all BM's to take a look. Regardless of what you believe or whose side you're on, you'll find it interesting.
Also thanks for your insightful reply to my questions. As I told one of the posters here, you're more knowledgeable about the war than any of the media pundits I follow.
I think this is a silly question. Russia will never ever accept a Ukraine that is not neutral. If you have been watching the news, Trump and his team have already said Ukraine will never join NATO so that sticking point appears to have been settled between the 2 great powers here (USA and Russia). Ukraine will just be informed of their decisions.How does this end Blood Red? The west is probably going to keep arming Ukraine in a big way, unless there's a ceasefire that leads to a peace agreement. That means that Russia potentially would need to go medieval to win the war. By that I mean treat Ukraine like Israel treated Gaza. In which case there will be blood. Lots of blood. I don't see Ukraine accepting a ceasefire unless it's able to keep a substantial military; or there's a guarantee by western governments that they'll come to the aid of a neutral Ukraine in the event of an attack; or there are peacekeepers on the ground. And the only nations that appear willing to supply peacekeepers are NATO countries and Australia, which is problematic for the Russians.
Are there any realistic compromises that could end the war without a lot more bloodshed?
No imbecile, your "anti semite" accusation is both technically and logically flawed as it is flawed in veracity. A) Palestinians are semites too- and in fact Scientific evidence shows them to be more semitic than the Ashkenazi jews are- and I am an ardent supporter of Palestinians. B) I don't genuinely have anything against Jews- but I have everything against Jews and Christians and any other person for that matter who supports the genocidal assaults on Palestinians and the theft of Palestinian's lands by Israel- ie zionists. You don't do either scientific evidence or logical reasoning, do you?
The fact that you actually think you provided "irrefutable evidence" troubles me greatly about mindsets of not just you but those of your ilk whose perverted mindset is the cause of half the world's political ills.
Now spew your anti Russian bile again- we could do with the spectacle.Lmfao, you're a raging anti-semite.
What happened the 7th October 2023?
That's what started this war. The Palestinians shouldn't have started this war by committing a genocidal attack and mass rapings against Israelis.
It's important to understand that gaza is full of radical islamistic terrorist groups like hamas and islamic jihad. It's basically no different than isis.
Do you think your lifestyle would be accepted in gaza? Lmfao, they would kill you in 5 seconds and no one would blink an eye or give a second thought about it.
The Christian Palestinians are being treated horribly by the other palestinians.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2011-006179_EN.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Look zionist, you may own America, but you don't own this forum so you do not get to wag the forum owners' dog.
Even mongerers have a sense of propriety and want nothing to do with soonish or the evil state of Israel.You do realize that you come across as a neo nazi when you feel the constant need to call people "Zionist" in all of your posts?
Liar criminal Putin keep on shooting Zaporija. We can t trust him nor Trump.
Like in the Bible, everything is truth, but not all the truth. You have to be an intelligent reader to follow any press including Russian as it caters to different audience.
The Russian press is highly choreographed with official statements. The recent call was audio only and the longest in history for 2 hours and 28 minutes. Most of it is dark matter, that is topics that were not for the press. Diplomacy like money likes privacy. The end of the war as for now is far away. As we like to say, the caravan moves on while dogs are barking. There is a confusion sometimes between the US / Russia dialogue and the war in Ukraine. Clearly the first is more important and the war is just an offspring of the long term deterioration. Obviously, the relationship between the US and the RF is a broader topic, more technical and opaque so we see fewer guests and journalists talk about it.
30 days ceasefire may come to fruition and the technical talks in Jidda will resume on the 23rd of March. We need the Ukrainian mobilization to stop as it will be much easier to mobilize during the ceasefire because of lesser perception risk and higher wages all bankrolled by the West. I expect the period to cover the Orthodox Easter into first 2 weeks of May. Military aid should stop. Sharing of intelligence has never stopped, don't be gullible.
We need a neutral non-nuclear Ukraine with all issues permanently resolved and all hostilities ended. I would prefer Russian guarantees only as we have now with Belarus.
You can also see how top to bottom approach may work and draw a plan on a napkin. When you will draw it visually you will see that Ukraine has to call the elections and amend its constitution.What you're really saying is that russia must be given more times to produce weapons and mobilize their troops while Ukraine must be weakened so Russia can invade their country. Russia is not the boss of Ukraine. Russia is not the boss of Poland. Russia is not the boss of Finland nor Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania.
You're against democracy, you're against human rights, you're against international law and you're against free souvereign nations.
Ukraine will not and can not have elections when their country is invaded and occupied by russian nazis.
Who's going to count the votes in Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Cherson?
Who's going to go out to vote so the russian nazis can bomb them easier?
None of Russia's neighbors have attacked russia, but all of russia's neighbors have been attacked by russia.
If we're going to reach any kind of peace russia must be demilitarized so they can't attack their peaceful neighbors!
Ukraine needs more weapons, russia less.
I'll take a crack at some of these questions for fun and express my opinion.
I think Putin stuck to his guns and gave very little, if anything away. This 30 day ceasefire on ENERGY infrastructure means very little. So it means in essence that for 30 days, Russia will not attack Ukrainian energy infrastructure, right? Well, anyone that has been following the Russian attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure targets (like I have) would know that the Russians usually carry out 1 attack each month. And the last one was a few days before this ceasefire was agreed upon. So this ceasefire means very little. And yes, this may lead to somewhere IF western aid and intelligence is stopped.
I think this is a silly question. Russia will never ever accept a Ukraine that is not neutral. If you have been watching the news, Trump and his team have already said Ukraine will never join NATO so that sticking point appears to have been settled between the 2 great powers here (USA and Russia). Ukraine will just be informed of their decisions.
This is a tricky one. The Euros want to fight on for a long time using the poor Ukrainians. If Trump is really serious about ending this and it does look like he is, if he cuts off ALL AID to Ukraine, makes the territorial concessions plus neutrality for Ukraine that the Russians are demanding, then I think there is a chance for the war ending this year. The Euros can't do dick without American support.You're basically admitting that you and putin wants this war and you're willing to do nothing to achieve peace. It's truly horrendous to see how you enjoy people getting murdered for no reason.
The energy infrastructure ceasefire is something that russia needed after Ukraine's successful attacks against their oil refineries.
Stopping Western aid and intelligence to Ukraine won't stop the war. It will prolong the war, right now the russians are suffering in Ukraine.
Putin is desperate and is hoping for the West to gift him Ukraine.
Putin is the Hitler of the 21th, he will not stop unless he is stopped. Western support to Ukraine is accomplishing just that. What you want is for the russian 21th century Hitler to invade all of Ukraine and there after attack Moldova, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
It's some truly evil shit that you're supporting. It's a crime against humanity and international law.
Two things;.
1. trump is not USA. In less than four years from now trump will not be the president.
What putin can accept and what he will get are two very different things. Russia obviously doesn't have the capability to make Ukraine their vassal state. And no one, absolutely no one, can make Ukraine or the Ukrainian people "neutral" after this failed russian war. Try to be honest for a second, do you really believe that the Ukrainians will be neutral? That's a funny joke.
Ukraine obviously hasn't accepted putin's demands. The russian nazis will continue with their war crimes and failed war.
You seem to be uninformed about the fact that Ukraine is a sovereign country with a population of over 40 million people, it's not something that russia has the military capability or strategic ability to defeat. Especially not if Ukraine receives help from the EU.
Russia couldn't win any of their wars in Afghanistan, Syria or even in Cheznya, what makes you delusional enough to believe that russia would win the war against a much bigger and stronger Ukraine?
Here's the deal; the EU consists of peaceful countries that were fully concentrated on improving the quality of life for its citizens while russia has no interest in improving anything for its citizens but that doesn't mean that Europe isn't strong militarily. The EU is much stronger than the third world country russia.
Assuming? Do you live under a rock or what? People like Boris Johnson and Lindsey Graham have openly boasted that this is a proxy war between NATO (USA / EU) and Russia using the poor Ukrainians as canon fodder.
NATO also said they would not expand eastwards, and they did. The root cause of this war is NATO expansion.No, the root cause of the war is russian imperialism.
Don't you read history? It's kinda sad to see how uninformed and misinformed you are.
I listened to one of Zelensky's side kicks say just that about Kursk yesterday. Hiter's orders, hiold fat (or we'll give you a bullet).
L.Dude, putin is literally the russian Hitler of the 21th century.
Are you fucking kidding me? The war in Ukraine is a PROXY WAR between the United States and Russia! Without American support, weapons, intel and money, Ukraine wouldn't last long at all. And don't forget, the primary instigator in making sure this war happened is USA aka NATO.Russia started this war just like they started the war against Georgia in 2008 and all the wars against Finland and the Baltics.
I feel sorry for you, hopefully one day you will be less opinionated about something you clearly are so uninformed and misinformed about.
A) Palestinians are semites too- and in fact Scientific evidence shows them to be more semitic than the Ashkenazi jews are- and I am an ardent supporter of Palestinians. It's hard to imagine that a grownup living in the 21st century, who can read and isn't mentally retarded, can seriously would employ this "Arabs are Semites too" fallacy -- considering that idiocy was debunked over 100 years ago. Wilhelm Marr who SPAWNED the term Anti-Semitism had never seen an Arab in his life. His Anti-Semitic League was always persecuting Jews and Jews alone. He would've been mightily surprised if anyone told him "but Arabs are Semites too, you know, why do you hate them so much"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Marr
With every new post you somehow manage to reveal yourself with more and better details. Goodness, if most anti-Semites weren't dumb as a doorknob!
https://www.britannica.com/topic/antisemitism
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitism
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/anti-semitism
I was kind of sad after the Putin / Trump conversation didn't produce much. Now after hearing Blood Red's, Questner's and Riina's thoughts I'm more depressed. I thought there was a good chance this would be over soon. Unfortunately probably not.Trump doesn't care about Ukrainians. He just want to rob everybody. A shameful for USA.
Elvis 2008
03-22-25, 16:49
You're against democracy. Ukraine will not and can not have elections.How can you be pro-Democracy and against elections?
you're against human rightsHow can you be pro human rights when you advocate for killing Russians and "Palestinians"?
None of Russia's neighbors have attacked Russia. You're against free souvereign nations.Didn't Ukraine just invade Russia?
Ukraine has been invaded and occupied by russian nazis.Uh, Russia has more reason to hate Nazis than anyone. That is why the Putin-Hilter comparisons are so stupid. And the USA has lifted the weapons ban on the neoNazi Azov brigade in Ukraine. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/azov-ban-lifted/.
Ukraine needs more weapons, Russia less.So you are for giving Neonazis more weapons? And saying the country who fought the Nazis and beat them need less weapons?
What happened the 7th October 2023?
It's important to understand that gaza is full of radical islamistic terrorist groups like hamas and islamic jihad. It's basically no different than isis.
Lmfao, you're a raging anti-semite. There was no question the Palestian terrorists needed a response after October 7 but what gets me about people like you is how discriminatory you are. Oh, being anti-semitic is terrible but yet you paint the same brush of hatred with Arabs and Palestinians, and you are cheering on the death of Russian Christians.
I just wonder whose Kool Aid you are drinking to make comments that are as ridiculous as I am pro-Democracy and against elections and Russians are nazis. Is it the Zionist Kool Aid? The Democratic douche Kool Aid or both?
Elvis 2008
03-22-25, 17:12
None of the epithets you listed represent ad hominem attacks.
Yes, I called Tiny a Russophile because that's what he is.
Yes, I called Mr. Hotdog an anti-Semite because that's what he is.
I don't remember if I called Trump, Vance at al Putin cocksuckers, but that sounds about right, so be it.
And yes, I called you a member of the Donald Trump cult because that's what you are.
That's not ad hominem attacks. Not even close.
In all these cases, I've thoroughly explained and provided irrefutable evidence as to why these individuals, including you, are what they are. You know logical, Elvis? Look it up.How can I be a member of the Trump cult when I have criticized him for his tariffs, excessive government spending, lockdown of our county during the pandemic, and being antivaxx when the vaccine quit working?
That is the evidence you call irrefutable?
Meanwhile, I have not ever seen a Democratic douche like yourself take a position contrary to Democratic talking points. Ever!
I have distinguished between a person voting Democrat and being a cult member Democratic douche like yourself. You have not. Anyone who voted for Trump is in the Trump cult.
As for ad hominems, you might want to know what ad hominem means before you use it, A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.
In other words, you do not have to factually refute anyone. You just call them names when you cannot logically refute what they say.
So tell me Xpartan, when have you been at odds with any Democrat positions? Hmmm?
How can you be pro-Democracy and against elections?
How can you be pro human rights when you advocate for killing Russians and "Palestinians"?
Didn't Ukraine just invade Russia?
Uh, Russia has more reason to hate Nazis than anyone. That is why the Putin-Hilter comparisons are so stupid. And the USA has lifted the weapons ban on the neoNazi Azov brigade in Ukraine. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/azov-ban-lifted/.
So you are for giving Neonazis more weapons? And saying the country who fought the Nazis and beat them need less weapons?
There was no question the Palestian terrorists needed a response after October 7 but what gets me about people like you is how discriminatory you are. Oh, being anti-semitic is terrible but yet you paint the same brush of hatred with Arabs and Palestinians, and you are cheering on the death of Russian Christians.
I just wonder whose Kool Aid you are drinking to make comments that are as ridiculous as I am pro-Democracy and against elections and Russians are nazis. Is it the Zionist Kool Aid? The Democratic douche Kool Aid or both?Did Ukraine attack Russia on 2014 , or 2022 ? Yes, Putin is kind of son of Hitler. Read Ukraine constitution: no election under war, but USA fuck their own constitution, except for free weapons to kill children.
How can you be pro-Democracy and against elections?
How can you be pro human rights when you advocate for killing Russians and "Palestinians"?
Didn't Ukraine just invade Russia?
Uh, Russia has more reason to hate Nazis than anyone. That is why the Putin-Hilter comparisons are so stupid. And the USA has lifted the weapons ban on the neoNazi Azov brigade in Ukraine. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/azov-ban-lifted/.
So you are for giving Neonazis more weapons? And saying the country who fought the Nazis and beat them need less weapons?
There was no question the Palestian terrorists needed a response after October 7 but what gets me about people like you is how discriminatory you are. Oh, being anti-semitic is terrible but yet you paint the same brush of hatred with Arabs and Palestinians, and you are cheering on the death of Russian Christians.
I just wonder whose Kool Aid you are drinking to make comments that are as ridiculous as I am pro-Democracy and against elections and Russians are nazis. Is it the Zionist Kool Aid? The Democratic douche Kool Aid or both?I do realize that you trump-supporters have little to no respect for democracy, laws and the constitution but Ukraine is a constitutional democracy where the President actually respects and follow the law and constitution.
Elections during a war, an invasion and occupation is explicitly forbidden according to the Ukrainian constitution.
It's not enough for you trump supporters to disrespect the US constitution, now you also want to disrespect the Ukrainian constitution.
It's one thing that you're against the constitutions of USA and foreign countries like Ukraine, but your total lack of empathy for human beings (yes, Ukrainians are humans) is deeply disturbing, shocking and shameful.
The Ukrainian people are united, what they want, and what they need is peace.
Can you, trump and putin respect that?
You speak about democracy and pretend to care about the Ukrainian people but when will you respect the Ukrainian people's call for a real peace, democracy and sovereignty from russian imperialism and war crimes?
Show your true colors.
How are the Ukrainians supposed to have elections when a fifth of the country is under direct occupation and the rest is being heavily attacked by russian war criminals?
Who would dare to go to any polling station where they would be sitting ducks for putin and his war criminals?
Do you seek to murder more Ukrainians?
Who will count the votes in the occupied parts of Ukraine? Putin? That would be hilarious.
Please, stop the charades.
Everyone who's ever been to russia or read history or read the news knows that nazism is deeply rooted in the russian society.
Have you ever been to russia? Have you even been to Europe?
The russians for sure didn't seem to mind the nazis when they signed the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact in 1939.
And now 86 years later we might see a trump-putin pact.
It's not even funny anymore to see how the history seems to always repeat itself.
Come on, didn't you know that russia and the nazis were allied when the Second World War started?
https://18-24.army.gov.ua/ Ukraine started to mobilize the younger males age 18 to 24 with 1 year contract. 1 million hryvnas in 3 installments and 120,000 hryvnas per month. The recruits can choose one of 17 brigades. The dead already flooding the front lines, with a description from the Russian army: the dead all have better teeth.
Women also find their way into infantry. I thought it was fake news until I saw the videos of Ukrainian female infantry dead near the destroyed vehicles.
There is an interview on X by Tucker with Steve Witkoff posted on March 21,2025 The first part deals with the Middle East and the second with the conflict in Ukraine. I encourage to listen to this interview in full.
https://18-24.army.gov.ua/ Ukraine started to mobilize the younger males age 18 to 24 with 1 year contract. 1 million hryvnas in 3 installments and 120,000 hryvnas per month. The recruits can choose one of 17 brigades. The dead already flooding the front lines, with a description from the Russian army: the dead all have better teeth.
Women also find their way into infantry. I thought it was fake news until I saw the videos of Ukrainian female infantry dead near the destroyed vehicles.
There is an interview on X by Tucker with Steve Witkoff posted on March 21,2025 The first part deals with the Middle East and the second with the conflict in Ukraine. I encourage to listen to this interview in full.Why would anyone listen to fake news from russian war criminals or a crazy person like Tycker Karlsson and an incompetent nepotism hire like Witchoff?
We all know that the russians are suffering and are not even close to winning the war, the only person that can save putin is trump.
Anyone with the slightest knowledge about russia knows that lies and propaganda are what the russians excelled at even back in the days of the Soviet Union.
Don't you people learn anything from history?
Reiner Otto
03-23-25, 11:18
Come on, didn't you know that russia and the nazis were allied when the Second World War started?Hey, he is American, obviously. No need for education. Anyway, the fact, that Putler learned a lot from Adolf is very obvious.
Hitler-Stalin agreement about Poland, now Putin-Trump trying to do similar business with Ukraine.
Adolfs March into Sudetenland, to free the German part of population. Putlers March into Crimea and Donbass.
Adolfs breach of non-attack agreement with the SU, Putlers breach of Budapest agreement.
The main difference is, that Adolfs troops were welcome in Sudetenland with flowers; Putlers green men were welcome with steel, when trying to go to Kiev.
To be fair, I am not against Russians. But against Putler.
Being someone, who lived and worked 5 years each in RF and UA. Knowing the Palace Square as well as kazantip.
Lmfao, you're a raging anti-semite.
What happened the 7th October 2023?
That's what started this war. The Palestinians shouldn't have started this war by committing a genocidal attack and mass rapings against Israelis.
It's important to understand that gaza is full of radical islamistic terrorist groups like hamas and islamic jihad. It's basically no different than isis.
Do you think your lifestyle would be accepted in gaza? Lmfao, they would kill you in 5 seconds and no one would blink an eye or give a second thought about it.
The Christian Palestinians are being treated horribly by the other palestinians.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2011-006179_EN.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com*Lmfao, you're a raging anti-semite.
What happened the 7th October 2023?
That's what started this war. *.
No, zionist, what started this was the appropriation of PALESTINIANS' Land by the jews instrumented by the imperialist west, principally the UK, and the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from their own freaking lands and the racist dehumanising of the remaining Palestinians by the Israelis.
You do realize that you come across as a neo nazi when you feel the constant need to call people "Zionist" in all of your posts?I do realise that hypocritical zionists and / or imperialistic neo cons racists will oppose the criticism of zionists and Israel by hypocritical attacks. I call Zionists, "Zionists", because as your Zionist counterpart asserted: if the shoe fits- let the zionist wear it.
What you're really saying is that russia must be given more times to produce weapons and mobilize their troops while Ukraine must be weakened so Russia can invade their country. Russia is not the boss of Ukraine. Russia is not the boss of Poland. Russia is not the boss of Finland nor Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania.
You're against democracy, you're against human rights, you're against international law and you're against free souvereign nations.
Ukraine will not and can not have elections when their country is invaded and occupied by russian nazis.
Who's going to count the votes in Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Cherson?
Who's going to go out to vote so the russian nazis can bomb them easier?
None of Russia's neighbors have attacked russia, but all of russia's neighbors have been attacked by russia.
If we're going to reach any kind of peace russia must be demilitarized so they can't attack their peaceful neighbors!
Ukraine needs more weapons, russia less.You're against democracy, you're against human rights, you're against international law and you're against free souvereign nations. *.
LOOOL- What a fucking hypocrite this shameless clown is. Have you no shame? Have you genuinely no shame? Idiot.
It's hard to imagine that a grownup living in the 21st century, who can read and isn't mentally retarded, can seriously would employ this "Arabs are Semites too" fallacy -- considering that idiocy was debunked over 100 years ago. Wilhelm Marr who SPAWNED the term Anti-Semitism had never seen an Arab in his life. His Anti-Semitic League was always persecuting Jews and Jews alone. He would've been mightily surprised if anyone told him "but Arabs are Semites too, you know, why do you hate them so much"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Marr
With every new post you somehow manage to reveal yourself with more and better details. Goodness, if most anti-Semites weren't dumb as a doorknob!
https://www.britannica.com/topic/antisemitism
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitism
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/anti-semitismI don't give a fuck who coined the phrase, or how it came to be coined. I literally explained to you how the definition of it does not make sense because scientifically (it is presumptuous to think someone as stupid as you would do science given you cannot fathom basic logic) the Palestinians are SEMETIC.
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-801607
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11543891/
https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/most-ashkenazi-jews-are-genetically-europeans-surprising-study-finds-8c11358210
I do not genuinely believe you were born stupid but that your warped perverted hypocritical and callous mindset in watching tens of thousands of innocent women and children be massacred and excusing it is a consequence of your evil ideology. But you must be brought to account for your vile ideology.
How can I be a member of the Trump cult when I have criticized him for his tariffs, excessive government spending, lockdown of our county during the pandemic, and being antivaxx when the vaccine quit working?
That is the evidence you call irrefutable?
Meanwhile, I have not ever seen a Democratic douche like yourself take a position contrary to Democratic talking points. Ever!
I have distinguished between a person voting Democrat and being a cult member Democratic douche like yourself. You have not. Anyone who voted for Trump is in the Trump cult.
As for ad hominems, you might want to know what ad hominem means before you use it, A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.
In other words, you do not have to factually refute anyone. You just call them names when you cannot logically refute what they say.
So tell me Xpartan, when have you been at odds with any Democrat positions? Hmmm?*As for ad hominems, you might want to know what ad hominem means before you use it, A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. *.
Dammit man, will you stop posting "facts"! Get with the programme. We do not do facts on this forum. If Xparatan and his mini me micro intellectual pal say " Up is down" because "State department of Up is Down" said "Up is down" then Goddamnit DO NOT APPEAL TO REASON. Up is down and you are an anti-upper for denying it.
You really need to take a long hard introspective look at yourself, and so do I.
Ok, sarcasam off. These dumb motherfuckers belong in the world of 1984.
I do realize that you trump-supporters have little to no respect for democracy, laws and the constitution but Ukraine is a constitutional democracy where the President actually respects and follow the law and constitution.
Elections during a war, an invasion and occupation is explicitly forbidden according to the Ukrainian constitution.
It's not enough for you trump supporters to disrespect the US constitution, now you also want to disrespect the Ukrainian constitution.
It's one thing that you're against the constitutions of USA and foreign countries like Ukraine, but your total lack of empathy for human beings (yes, Ukrainians are humans) is deeply disturbing, shocking and shameful.
The Ukrainian people are united, what they want, and what they need is peace.
Can you, trump and putin respect that?
You speak about democracy and pretend to care about the Ukrainian people but when will you respect the Ukrainian people's call for a real peace, democracy and sovereignty from russian imperialism and war crimes?
Show your true colors.
How are the Ukrainians supposed to have elections when a fifth of the country is under direct occupation and the rest is being heavily attacked by russian war criminals?
Who would dare to go to any polling station where they would be sitting ducks for putin and his war criminals?
Do you seek to murder more Ukrainians?
Who will count the votes in the occupied parts of Ukraine? Putin? That would be hilarious.
Please, stop the charades.
Everyone who's ever been to russia or read history or read the news knows that nazism is deeply rooted in the russian society.
Have you ever been to russia? Have you even been to Europe?
The russians for sure didn't seem to mind the nazis when they signed the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact in 1939.
And now 86 years later we might see a trump-putin pact.
It's not even funny anymore to see how the history seems to always repeat itself.
Come on, didn't you know that russia and the nazis were allied when the Second World War started?This conflation of nazism and Putin's action is stupid even for a half wit like you.
Russia is traumatised by the nazis' assaults on it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14526795/Vladimir-Putins-mother-gruesome-deaths-barbaric.html
When Putin initiated his attacks on Ukraine, he characterized it as a war on nazism and the Ukrainians as Nazis.
Yes, gaslighting, but then that's something you're very familiar with, aren't you, zionist?
https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/
Good article. Sentiment is changing on the great clusterfuck and probably due to all the independent news outlets.
Hey, he is American, obviously. No need for education. Anyway, the fact, that Putler learned a lot from Adolf is very obvious.
Hitler-Stalin agreement about Poland, now Putin-Trump trying to do similar business with Ukraine.
Adolfs March into Sudetenland, to free the German part of population. Putlers March into Crimea and Donbass.
Adolfs breach of non-attack agreement with the SU, Putlers breach of Budapest agreement.
The main difference is, that Adolfs troops were welcome in Sudetenland with flowers; Putlers green men were welcome with steel, when trying to go to Kiev.
To be fair, I am not against Russians. But against Putler.
Being someone, who lived and worked 5 years each in RF and UA. Knowing the Palace Square as well as kazantip.Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mr. Hot-not-antiSemite-for-he-loves-Arabs- Dog is not an American. He's either English or one of your closest EU neighbors. Being an American is not a pre-requisit for being an ass. Which is precisely what he is.
An ass!
Snotty, ill-natured, uneducated, anti-Semitic ass. The way he's talking to his opponents here is anything but unique. This is how he communicates on all forums -- just check his "musings" in the Jakarta thread.
https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/
Good article. Sentiment is changing on the great clusterfuck and probably due to all the independent news outlets.I worry Trump and his gang enjoy to suck Putin and want to fuck Ukrainians. I wish courageous Ukrainians won t accept to be fucked by such shameful, about their land, when they were already robbed Crimea by criminal dictator Putin.
https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/
Good article. Sentiment is changing on the great clusterfuck and probably due to all the independent news outlets.Ah! Alan Kuperman! Where could I've heard this name before? But of course!
https://www.rt.com/russia/interview-with-allan-j-kuperman
https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/265660-west-humanitarian-intervention-invasion
No, "sentiment" is not changing, propacondom. Useful idiots and sellouts don't change, LOL!
The Dems still don't understand Trump and his minions.
Sigh.
Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA), who sits on the House Armed Services Committee, didn't try to hide his dismay Monday when asked about a top U.S. official echoing Vladimir Putin's talking Points on Ukraine.
Steve Witkoff, U.S. special envoy to the Middle East, told Fox News over the weekend that some parts of Ukraine are "Russian territory."
Witkoff also appeared on former Fox News host Tucker Carlson's podcast and CNN's Kate Bolduan played a clip of Witkoff telling Carlson that "There have been referendums where the overwhelming majority of the people have indicated that they want to be under Russian rule."
Moulton reacted with total disbelief.
"It's just insane, and I think we've known for a while that Tucker Carlson is on the Kremlin's side and has been for some time, but now the lead negotiator for the United States is taking the Tucker Carlson/Putin position on these negotiations. He's literally negotiating for the other side, negotiating for the aggressor, negotiating for the violator of international law. And what does he say? He says, 'Oh, I take Putin at his word.' Is this guy a total idiot? Is he just completely nave?"
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Moulton then suggested that Witkoff was being "paid off by Russia."
Bolduan interjected, "I get your point, but there's no evidence that that has been presented, that there's any payoff that has actually been happening to Steve Witkoff."
"I'm not I'm not saying there's any evidence," Moulton acknowledged. "I'm just trying to understand why on earth would a U.S. negotiator takes our adversary's side? I mean, Reagan must be rolling over in his grave here. The Republican Party has become subservient to Russia."
Boulduan read a portion of a new Time Magazine interview with Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky that read, "I believe Russia has managed to influence some people on the White House Team through information. Their signal to Americans was that Ukraine doesn't want to end the war and something should be done to force them.
Moulton claimed that Zelenskyy was trying to introduce some reality "that the trump Team apparently can't figure out because Vadimir Putin is a KGB agent who is playing Trump like a violin."I respectfully disagree.
No, he's not "naive".
Did Russia bribe him? Maybe, he's been with the Master for decades after all.
But they didn't have to.
People who've chosen to serve Trump do not have a backbone. That's why they've been selected. They can't afford a backbone. The backbone would get them in trouble in a New York minute. Even long-term friends.
All Trump had to say was this:
Hey Steve, you gotta say something nice about Vladimir. I have Tucker Carlson somewhere in my back pocket -- wait, where is -- ah, here he is. Hey Tucker, can you do a solid to my bud Steve here. He needs to talk to you about Russia Russia Russia. And also about that bitchy Ukraine too.That's all it took and even less maybe.
Lmfao, you're a raging anti-semite.
What happened the 7th October 2023?
That's what started this war. For ignorant fools like you, the Israeli Palestinian war started on Oct 7, 2023. It didn't. But then again that's what the western media told you so you don't know any better. Just like the Russia Ukraine war didn't start on Feb 2022. I don't have time to educate you right now but may do so later.
The Palestinians shouldn't have started this war by committing a genocidal attack and mass rapings against Israelis.The only genocide that is happened is happening right now in Gaza. But that's okay with you because for you the Palestinians are human animals, right? And the only proven rapes are the ones committed by the IDF of Palestinians.
It's important to understand that gaza is full of radical islamistic terrorist groups like hamas and islamic jihad. It's basically no different than isis.
Do you think your lifestyle would be accepted in gaza? Lmfao, they would kill you in 5 seconds and no one would blink an eye or give a second thought about it.
The Christian Palestinians are being treated horribly by the other palestinians.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2011-006179_EN.html?utm_source=chatgpt.comSince you care so much about Christians, what do you have to say about the Christians getting slaughtered in Syria by ISIS which is now backed by the EU and USA?
How does this end Blood Red? The west is probably going to keep arming Ukraine in a big way, unless there's a ceasefire that leads to a peace agreement. That means that Russia potentially would need to go medieval to win the war. By that I mean treat Ukraine like Israel treated Gaza. In which case there will be blood. Lots of blood. I don't see Ukraine accepting a ceasefire unless it's able to keep a substantial military; or there's a guarantee by western governments that they'll come to the aid of a neutral Ukraine in the event of an attack; or there are peacekeepers on the ground. And the only nations that appear willing to supply peacekeepers are NATO countries and Australia, which is problematic for the Russians.
Are there any realistic compromises that could end the war without a lot more bloodshed?I'll give you a few scenarios as to how this may end (or continue) and then share which I believe is the most likely one:
1. Trump forces Ukraine to accept Russian control of the 4 new territories + Crimea and agree to neutrality. The issue here is that the Russians don't control all of the 4 new territories and Putin has demanded that Ukraine cede full control to the Russians. I find it hard to believe that the Ukrainians will ever accept all these conditions, so this scenario looks a bit unlikely to me.
2. Trump cuts all aid and intelligence to Ukraine and the AFU collapse. While a collapse may very well happen if the conflict continues, I don't see the USA cutting off all aid to Ukraine.
3. The conflict continues, the Russians take more and more territory, and we reach a frozen conflict where both sides stop shooting at some point and the Russians laying claim to Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipropetrovk and Nikolaiv. That will be disastrous for Ukraine. Remember, the longer this goes on, the more territory Ukraine will lose.
Unfortunately, I see 3 as the most likely scenario. I really hope I'm wrong and I hope it's 1 that actually happens.
Russia started this war just like they started the war against Georgia in 2008 and all the wars against Finland and the Baltics.
I feel sorry for you, hopefully one day you will be less opinionated about something you clearly are so uninformed and misinformed about.You don't know the history. Russia attacked Georgia in response to Georgia attacking Russian troops. But you don't know this because the mainstream media didn't tell you this. But now you know.
You seem to be uninformed about the fact that Ukraine is a sovereign country with a population of over 40 million people, it's not something that russia has the military capability or strategic ability to defeat. Especially not if Ukraine receives help from the EU.
.This shows how little you know. Ukraine HAD a population of 40 million before the war, sure. Tens of millions have left that will never come back. Over a million men have died in a needless war. Ukraine will become a rump dysfunctional state thanks to NATO and the EU. I hope you warmongers are happy.
https://18-24.army.gov.ua/ Ukraine started to mobilize the younger males age 18 to 24 with 1 year contract. 1 million hryvnas in 3 installments and 120,000 hryvnas per month. The recruits can choose one of 17 brigades. The dead already flooding the front lines, with a description from the Russian army: the dead all have better teeth.
Women also find their way into infantry. I thought it was fake news until I saw the videos of Ukrainian female infantry dead near the destroyed vehicles.
There is an interview on X by Tucker with Steve Witkoff posted on March 21,2025 The first part deals with the Middle East and the second with the conflict in Ukraine. I encourage to listen to this interview in full.Until the last Ukrainian. What a horrific needless tragedy.
Until the last Ukrainian. What a horrific needless tragedy.You mean until the last russian?
Putin is just like Stalin. He's willing to sacrifice every russian, except for himself.
John Clayton
03-24-25, 21:26
Until the last Ukrainian. What a horrific needless tragedy.Right. End the tragedy immediately. Russians withdraw behind 1992 internationally guaranteed borders. Peace talks to begin with reparations.
This shows how little you know. Ukraine HAD a population of 40 million before the war, sure. Tens of millions have left that will never come back. Over a million men have died in a needless war. Ukraine will become a rump dysfunctional state thanks to NATO and the EU. I hope you warmongers are happy.You're the warmonger. Putin started this war and you're willing to do everything to help putin continue his failed war in Ukraine.
You don't seem to understand that everything you say only highlights the importance for Ukraine to not lose this war against the genocidal russian war criminals.
You don't know the history. Russia attacked Georgia in response to Georgia attacking Russian troops. But you don't know this because the mainstream media didn't tell you this. But now you know.No, that's not even close to the truth.
It's preposterous that you even try to tell such a stupid lie.
Everyone in the free world knows that russia started the war against Georgia.
For ignorant fools like you, the Israeli Palestinian war started on Oct 7, 2023. It didn't. But then again that's what the western media told you so you don't know any better. Just like the Russia Ukraine war didn't start on Feb 2022. I don't have time to educate you right now but may do so later.
The only genocide that is happened is happening right now in Gaza. But that's okay with you because for you the Palestinians are human animals, right? And the only proven rapes are the ones committed by the IDF of Palestinians.
Since you care so much about Christians, what do you have to say about the Christians getting slaughtered in Syria by ISIS which is now backed by the EU and USA?Wow, you truly are at odds with all established science and experts. The current ongoing war between Israel and Palestine isn't the first war between them, but there wasn't any war going on the 6th of October before the palestinian genocide and rapes against Israelis the 7th October.
ISIS and HTS are supported by turkey but terror listed by both the EU and USA, maybe you should try to make one single post without telling a lie? That's my challenge for you.
How are you supposed to educate anyone when all know are a bunch of lies?
This conflation of nazism and Putin's action is stupid even for a half wit like you.
Russia is traumatised by the nazis' assaults on it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14526795/Vladimir-Putins-mother-gruesome-deaths-barbaric.html
When Putin initiated his attacks on Ukraine, he characterized it as a war on nazism and the Ukrainians as Nazis.
Yes, gaslighting, but then that's something you're very familiar with, aren't you, zionist?So why is russia and putin literally giving military training to European nazis? Lmfao, you war loving nazis are hilarious.
https://amp.dw.com/en/german-neo-nazis-trained-at-russian-camps-report/a-53692907
For ignorant fools like you, the Israeli Palestinian war started on Oct 7, 2023. It didn't. But then again that's what the western media told you so you don't know any better. Just like the Russia Ukraine war didn't start on Feb 2022. I don't have time to educate you right now but may do so later.
The only genocide that is happened is happening right now in Gaza. But that's okay with you because for you the Palestinians are human animals, right? And the only proven rapes are the ones committed by the IDF of Palestinians.
Since you care so much about Christians, what do you have to say about the Christians getting slaughtered in Syria by ISIS which is now backed by the EU and USA?It's sad to see your lies when it's impossible for us Europeans to escape the truth.
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240619-french-teens-charged-with-anti-semitic-rape-in-attack-condemned-by-political-leaders
During the recent interview Steve Wikoff demonstrated on purpose or honestly that he didn't know the brief. The position of the Russian political leadership on Ukraine even described concisely by the President in February and March 2022 is true to the facts. It's not only four regions plus Crimea that are culturally Russian, it's most of the territory of today's Ukraine.
Ukraine became a de facto independent state as a non-aligned and non-nuclear. No one at the kitchen table in 2007 nervously fidgeted and pleaded with the Rada out of fear to join NATO. Ukraine could have continued to leave in peace but instead the country had lost its independence and allowed the foreign nations, the US and to lesser extent some other EU nations to decide its policy. Its the US who could have left the country in peace but chosen to corrupt its leadership and undermine its independence. Everyone sane, thoughtful and caring understood very well that you don't bring an adversary to your brother's doorstep. The Bucharest memorandum of 2008, the decision to add an aspiration to join NATO in 2015 and the public statements by Zelensky to seek and acquire nuclear weapons in 2021, all led to inevitable conflict.
It's time for Geppetto to put his wooden toy boy back into the box.
My advice in very simple: no carrots for Ukraine with occasional stick, and no stick for Russia with occasional carrot.
You're the warmonger. Putin started this war and you're willing to do everything to help putin continue his failed war in Ukraine.
You don't seem to understand that everything you say only highlights the importance for Ukraine to not lose this war against the genocidal russian war criminals.Ukraine cannot win, shit for brains. What part of that does a Euro like you not get, or not want to get? It's the bitter reality. Soon it will be evident when the Russians take all the 4 new territories and Ukraine declares neutrality. We will revisit this in the near future.
It's sad to see your lies when it's impossible for us Europeans to escape the truth.
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240619-french-teens-charged-with-anti-semitic-rape-in-attack-condemned-by-political-leadersI thought you were talking about the rapes on Oct 7 and the beheaded babies etc, all that which was debunked and proved as Israeli lies.
Wow, you truly are at odds with all established science and experts. The current ongoing war between Israel and Palestine isn't the first war between them, but there wasn't any war going on the 6th of October before the palestinian genocide and rapes against Israelis the 7th October.You really are a dumbass Euro that only watches Fox news or the BBC. The Palestinians were under an illegal criminal blockade which made Gaza an open air prison. Before that, Israel was bombing them left and right in a policy called 'mowing the lawn'. That is all okay for you because you have dehumanized the Palestinians. Palestinian lives do not matter to you. To you, they are human animals. Why don't you just admit that?
ISIS and HTS are supported by turkey but terror listed by both the EU and USA, maybe you should try to make one single post without telling a lie? That's my challenge for you.
How are you supposed to educate anyone when all know are a bunch of lies?Well dumbass, maybe you should get up to speed with the news. The EU is now visiting Damascus, talking and cozying up to the terrorist ISIS Government in Damascus and having a donor conference for them in Brussels. I guess Sky news didn't tell you this? Neither did the BBC? Here you go, I am happy to educate fools like you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/world/middleeast/syria-damascus-visit-foreign-ministers.html
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/20/germany-reopens-damascus-embassy-13-years-after-syrian-war-forced-its-closure
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/syria-assad-regime-sednaya-prison-tour-germany-france-hts-sharaa/
Why are top EU diplomats visiting Syria if HTS is listed as a terror organization?
No, that's not even close to the truth.
It's preposterous that you even try to tell such a stupid lie.
Everyone in the free world knows that russia started the war against Georgia.Read up on history, son. You can close your eyes to it but what I stated were facts.
You're the warmonger. Putin started this war and you're willing to do everything to help putin continue his failed war in Ukraine.
You don't seem to understand that everything you say only highlights the importance for Ukraine to not lose this war against the genocidal russian war criminals.I'm calling for the war to end, I'm calling for a ceasefire. You want Ukraine to fight until the last Ukrainian. Who is the warmonger here?
I thought you were talking about the rapes on Oct 7 and the beheaded babies etc, all that which was debunked and proved as Israeli lies.Why do you even try to deny the horrific rapes and crimes against humanity the palestinians committed on the 7th October?
We all know the truth, we have seen the pictures and heard the testimonies from the victims and witnesses.
Right. End the tragedy immediately. Russians withdraw behind 1992 internationally guaranteed borders. Peace talks to begin with reparations.Who let you out of gaga land?
I'm calling for the war to end, I'm calling for a ceasefire. You want Ukraine to fight until the last Ukrainian. Who is the warmonger here?Still counting fallen Ukrainians I see. While your own losses are approaching 1 million. And fast.
Your boss doesn't want peace Igor. While there is a war he stays in power. When it's over -- well, you don't want the army of armed, disillusioned marauding killers to come back home. Killers who can't and don't want to do anything else. Those few who managed to come back so far have already given a preview of what's coming.
Troops discharged from Putin's war kill and maim more than 750 Russian people
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/troops-discharged-putins-war-kill-34748138
Of course, Puting wouldn't give a flying fuck about some dead serfs. But hordes of Orcs coming home to nothing from the war they essentially lost can be more than a nuisance.
They can make life difficult for Puting and his oligarchs.
That's why Puting keeps spewing insane, ridiculous conditions no one will accept.
Puting loves war.
War's good for Puting.
Peace? From his dead, cold fingers.
Ukraine cannot win, shit for brains. What part of that does a Euro like you not get, or not want to get? It's the bitter reality. Soon it will be evident when the Russians take all the 4 new territories and Ukraine declares neutrality. We will revisit this in the near future.We have seen during these three years that russia can't win and resistance is the only way to deal with the russian war criminals.
What you say can only happen if at least A or be is true:
A. Trump supports Russia.
B. Trump is weaker than Biden.
A euro is a currency, a coin. I'm not a coin. I'm a person, I'm a European.
It's funny how all of Europe's neighbors are obsessed with us while we just want to be left alone and continue improving our countries.
Why do you even try to deny the horrific rapes and crimes against humanity the palestinians committed on the 7th October?
We all know the truth, we have seen the pictures and heard the testimonies from the victims and witnesses.Share the pictures of the rapes and the beheadings if you have seen them. Share the evidence. There is none.
There is however evidence of IDF criminals raping Palestinians:
https://theintercept.com/2024/08/09/israel-prison-sde-teiman-palestinian-abuse-torture/
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-faces-backlash-amid-fresh-evidence-of-war-crimes/3288932
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-sexual-abuse-palestinian-prisoners-rcna165811
Do you condemn this?
Still counting fallen Ukrainians I see. While your own losses are approaching 1 million. And fast.
.As I said to you before you dumb bastard, you have no evidence to back up that fiction.
As I said to you before you dumb bastard, you have no evidence to back up that fiction.Wow, why do you get so defensive?
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/minister-for-the-armed-forces-statement-on-ukraine-19-december-2024
A lot of Russians are dying, a lot. All because putin wanted to be the tough guy. Very sad.
Maybe, maybe instead he should have asked for hair tips from Trump or just gone to turkey to get a hair transplant.
It might cost a bit, but still a hell of a lot cheaper than the failed, failed, super failed war in Ukraine.
And anyways, since when is money an issue for Putin? We all know what Big Vlad likes to say;.
Russia's money are my money, that's why I'm the richest, toughest guy alive".
But as we all can see, what's money worth when you can't have hair on your head or military victories in Ukraine?
We have seen during these three years that russia can't win and resistance is the only way to deal with the russian war criminals.
What you say can only happen if at least A or be is true:
A. Trump supports Russia.
B. Trump is weaker than Biden.
A euro is a currency, a coin. I'm not a coin. I'm a person, I'm a European.
It's funny how all of Europe's neighbors are obsessed with us while we just want to be left alone and continue improving our countries.What you're too stupid to comprehend is that Russia defeated Ukraine in March 2022 when Ukraine sued for peace in Istanbul and said they would be neutral and a peace agreement was almost reached before UK and USA derailed it. Since then, it's a proxy war between USA aka NATO and Russia. And still Russia is slowly but surely winning on the battlefield. Ukraine can't sustain this, they don't have the manpower, Russia does. Anyone with any brain would know that Ukraine cannot defeat Russia, just like Mexico cannot defeat USA. This is a war of attrition. The Russians are slowly winning. The longer this goes on, the more territory Ukraine will lose and more men. If you Euros care so much about Ukraine, put your own troops there, but you will never ever do that because you to use Ukraine to weaken Russian using Ukrainian men and women. You Euros are sick warmongers and cowards and I'm glad there is some sanity on this in the White House and they will soon put a stop to this madness.
You really are a dumbass Euro that only watches Fox news or the BBC. The Palestinians were under an illegal criminal blockade which made Gaza an open air prison. Before that, Israel was bombing them left and right in a policy called 'mowing the lawn'. That is all okay for you because you have dehumanized the Palestinians. Palestinian lives do not matter to you. To you, they are human animals. Why don't you just admit that?
Well dumbass, maybe you should get up to speed with the news. The EU is now visiting Damascus, talking and cozying up to the terrorist ISIS Government in Damascus and having a donor conference for them in Brussels. I guess Sky news didn't tell you this? Neither did the BBC? Here you go, I am happy to educate fools like you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/world/middleeast/syria-damascus-visit-foreign-ministers.html
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/20/germany-reopens-damascus-embassy-13-years-after-syrian-war-forced-its-closure
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/syria-assad-regime-sednaya-prison-tour-germany-france-hts-sharaa/
Why are top EU diplomats visiting Syria if HTS is listed as a terror organization?Dude, have you even been to Europe? No one in Europe watches Fox News. You definitely have been watching Al Jazeera and Russia Today way too much.
In regards to Gaza allegedly being an "open-air prison" I find it pretty funny how the palestinian " prisoners" seem to have no problem smuggling in long-range rockets, anti-tank missiles and drones.
Since when do prison inmates have ballistic rockets and anti-tank guided missiles? If it's truly a prison, maybe they should use the tunnels to escape instead of stockpiling weapons? Or does that ruin the victim narrative?
It's a bit hypocritical to cry about Gaza being some kind of "outdoor prison" considering how the gazans raped, tortured, and murdered thousands of Israeli civilians, including children and grandmas.
I don't get your hypocrisy, Hamas, Islamic Jihad are ideological siblings of HTS and Isis. It's the same thing.
While speaking of hypocrisy; I don't see you complaining about what's going on inside of Russia and the violence, oppression and Islamization of Dagestan and Chechnya. Or the fact that Assad and Putin's best friends in Iran are murdering school girls for not wearing a hijab. Iran is the Shia version of ISIS, HTS and Iran is even literally best pals with Islamic Jihad and Hamas.
It's also funny how you sent me a link from the turkish fake news government media Anadolu Agency meanwhile the turkish dictator erdogan is literally guilty of putting HTS in power and empowering ISIS and other terrorist groups to murder Kurds in northern Syria.
Regarding Syria, of course the EU is going to take an interest. There are millions of Syrians living in Europe, and unless the EU manages to have a positive impact on the HTS, another migrant crisis is just around the corner.
It's called diplomacy for a reason, use the leverage you have to create the best possible outcome. The golden rule in geopolitics is that it hates vacuums. Point in case: Russia is already trying to get in bed with HTS, so maybe you should turn your fake criticism away from the EU and turn it to your dear pal tough guy vlad putin.
And by the way, the German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock didn't even shake hands with the HTS during her visit. In what world is that a "cozy" meeting? Welcome to Russia Today, your ultimate science fiction media! Guaranteed not a truth in sight.
Please tell me, what exactly did you find so controversial in the links you posted? Because after reading them, I see the follow statements:
French Foreign Minister Barrot expressing hope for a "sovereign, stable, and peaceful" Syria, while acknowledging that it's a "fragile hope. "
German Foreign Minister Baerbock saying Germany wants to help Syria become a "safe home" for all its people and a "functioning state, with full control over its territory. "
The Biden administration stating that the US could recognize a new Syrian government under certain conditions, including protecting minorities, ensuring humanitarian aid, preventing terrorism, and securing chemical and biological weapons.
Baerbock calling for an "inclusive and peaceful transfer of power" and warning against acts of vengeance, delays in elections, and the Islamization of Syria's judicial and education systems.
Barrot meeting with Syria's Christian communities and emphasizing France's commitment to a pluralistic Syria with equal rights for all, including minorities.
So, tell me, which part of this is the scandal? That European leaders are advocating for democracy, stability, human rights for all Syrians, including women & minorities, and the prevention of radicalism? That the EU and US want to avoid Syria becoming a terrorist haven? Or that they're calling for a peaceful transition into democracy?
You're so desperate to spin reality that you've ended up proving the exact opposite of what you were trying to say. Maybe you should step out of the Russia Today sci-fi fantasy world and start engaging with reality?
What you're too stupid to comprehend is that Russia defeated Ukraine in March 2022 when Ukraine sued for peace in Istanbul and said they would be neutral and a peace agreement was almost reached before UK and USA derailed it. Since then, it's a proxy war between USA aka NATO and Russia. And still Russia is slowly but surely winning on the battlefield. Ukraine can't sustain this, they don't have the manpower, Russia does. Anyone with any brain would know that Ukraine cannot defeat Russia, just like Mexico cannot defeat USA. This is a war of attrition. The Russians are slowly winning. The longer this goes on, the more territory Ukraine will lose and more men. If you Euros care so much about Ukraine, put your own troops there, but you will never ever do that because you to use Ukraine to weaken Russian using Ukrainian men and women. You Euros are sick warmongers and cowards and I'm glad there is some sanity on this in the White House and they will soon put a stop to this madness.Is this some sort of joke?
Ukraine is obviously not defeated.
Russia hasn't won the war, and they won't win the war.
The Russian losses on the battlefield are not sustainable.
The current Russian economy is not sustainable.
Modern warfare is about military technology, strategy and undoubtedly much less about manpower.
Putin started this war, just like Putin started a war against Georgia in 2008. What you write is not even close to be even remotely true.
War is Russia's thing, war is Putin's thing. Russia can't compete with USA, China or the EU when it comes to economy so they have to resort to wars to remain somewhat relevant.
Without war Russia is nothing. That's why all of the countries in Eastern Europe are turning to the EU. The EU is successful, Russia is not.
John McCain said it best: "Russia is a gas station with nukes".
I'm calling for the war to end, I'm calling for a ceasefire. You want Ukraine to fight until the last Ukrainian. Who is the warmonger here?Putin doesn't want to stop war, same like Netanhyaou, and Trump and his gang want to suck Putin for business.
I thought you were talking about the rapes on Oct 7 and the beheaded babies etc, all that which was debunked and proved as Israeli lies.It can't be lies, because Israelis said there were beheaded babies, and the Israelis are our friends. They wouldn't lie so it must be true.
Meanwhile, all those Palestinian babies having their limbs torn into pieces, all lies and propaganda.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mr. Hot-not-antiSemite-for-he-loves-Arabs- Dog is not an American. He's either English or one of your closest EU neighbors. Being an American is not a pre-requisit for being an ass. Which is precisely what he is.
An ass!
Snotty, ill-natured, uneducated, anti-Semitic ass. The way he's talking to his opponents here is anything but unique. This is how he communicates on all forums -- just check his "musings" in the Jakarta thread.I'm Irish, and I understand the pain of the Palestinians at the hands of your people because the same was done to my people, motherfucker, by the English who brutalised my people.
You will only understand the suffering associated with brutal occupation if you are subject to it. I hope you are subject to this at some point in your life.
QUOTE=HotDogI do realise that hypocritical zionists and / or imperialistic neo cons racists will oppose the criticism of zionists and Israel by hypocritical attacks. I call Zionists, "Zionists", because as your Zionist counterpart asserted: if the shoe fits- let the zionist wear it. [QUOTE.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-847309 Goldknopf filmed dancing to anti-Zionist Neturei Karta anthem, sparks outrage.
Newton York
03-26-25, 03:45
Why is everyone talking about Gaza and the middle east in this here Ukraine section? Weird no? It's called stupid shit in Kyiv. I would love to bang some hot blonde babes in Kyiv. You know if memory serves, I did manage to bang a Ukraine babe in Prague years and years ago. So that's a notch on my belt. But yes, I would love to bang a hijab Palestinian babe too, but that's a long shot. I tell ya, if that happens, like a Mia Khalifa huge tits type arab hijab babe, they can chop my head off right away, cause I'd die happy. Hah!
QUOTE=Newton York; Why is everyone talking about Gaza and the middle east in this here Ukraine section? Weird no? It's called stupid shit in Kyiv. I would love to bang some hot blonde babes in Kyiv. You know if memory serves, I did manage to bang a Ukraine babe in Prague years and years ago. So that's a notch on my belt. But yes, I would love to bang a hijab Palestinian babe too, but that's a long shot. I tell ya, if that happens, like a Mia Khalifa huge tits type arab hijab babe, they can chop my head off right away, cause I'd die happy. Hah!/ QUOTE.
Have you seen what a woman looks like wearing The Frumqa?? https://forward.com/opinion/309258/jewish-woman-under-the-veil/.
Putin doesn't want to stop war, same like Netanhyaou, and Trump and his gang want to suck Putin for business.Putin killed hundreds Russians with FSB on 1999 , then made war with Tchetchens and got power after fucking Russians.
QUOTE=Jojosun; QUOTE=HotDogI do realise that hypocritical zionists and or imperialistic neo cons racists will oppose the criticism of zionists and Israel by hypocritical attacks. I call Zionists, "Zionists", because as your Zionist counterpart asserted: if the shoe fits- let the zionist wear it. QUOTE.
www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article- Goldknopf filmed dancing to anti-Zionist Neturei Karta anthem, sparks outrage / QUOTE.
Some really Anti Zionists this lot in Israel. https://www.timesofisrael.com/outrage-as-students-at-state-funded-haredi-yeshiva-sing-anti-zionist-anti-enlistment-anthem/Outrage as students at state-funded Haredi yeshiva sing anti-Zionist, anti-enlistment anthem.
'We don't believe in the government of infidels and we won't show up at their army recruitment offices,' sing thousands of Ateret Shlomo young men at mass wedding.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/outrage-as-students-at-state-funded-haredi-yeshiva-sing-anti-zionist-anti-enlistment-anthem/
'We don't believe in the government of infidels and we won't show up at their army recruitment offices,' sing thousands of Ateret Shlomo young men at mass wedding. QUOTE.
Wow, why do you get so defensive?
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/minister-for-the-armed-forces-statement-on-ukraine-19-december-2024
A lot of Russians are dying, a lot. All because putin wanted to be the tough guy. Very sad.
Maybe, maybe instead he should have asked for hair tips from Trump or just gone to turkey to get a hair transplant.
It might cost a bit, but still a hell of a lot cheaper than the failed, failed, super failed war in Ukraine.
And anyways, since when is money an issue for Putin? We all know what Big Vlad likes to say;.
Russia's money are my money, that's why I'm the richest, toughest guy alive".
But as we all can see, what's money worth when you can't have hair on your head or military victories in Ukraine?I'm not defensive, I just like to call Xpartan names cause he's a dumb fuck.
Of course a lot of Russians are dying. But the kill ratio between Russians to Ukrainians is 1:7, in some places 1:10.
Dude, have you even been to Europe? No one in Europe watches Fox News. You definitely have been watching Al Jazeera and Russia Today way too much.Sorry, I should've said Sky News in addition to the BBC, etc.
In regards to Gaza allegedly being an "open-air prison" I find it pretty funny how the palestinian " prisoners" seem to have no problem smuggling in long-range rockets, anti-tank missiles and drones.
Since when do prison inmates have ballistic rockets and anti-tank guided missiles? If it's truly a prison, maybe they should use the tunnels to escape instead of stockpiling weapons? Or does that ruin the victim narrative?It's amazing how ignorant you are. Gaza is under an Israeli OCCUPATION and BLOCKADE. But for you that is okay because you consider the Palestinians 'human animals'.
It's a bit hypocritical to cry about Gaza being some kind of "outdoor prison" considering how the gazans raped, tortured, and murdered thousands of Israeli civilians, including children and grandmas.Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. There were no rapes or beheadings. On Oct 7 2023, close to 1200 people were killed. Many out of those, about 400, were Israeli soldiers who are fair game in a war. From the other 800, many were killed by the Israeli military as part of the Hannibal Directive that was implemented. You obviously have no idea about any of this so please google it. And yes, Hamas did kill several hundred innocent Israeli civilians which is a crime and they should not have done that and I condemn them for doing that.
I don't get your hypocrisy, Hamas, Islamic Jihad are ideological siblings of HTS and Isis. It's the same thing.No it's not the same thing. One is fighting an illegal occupation and is a resistance group.
HTS = Al Qaida rebranded. Get a clue.
While speaking of hypocrisy; I don't see you complaining about what's going on inside of Russia and the violence, oppression and Islamization of Dagestan and Chechnya. Or the fact that Assad and Putin's best friends in Iran are murdering school girls for not wearing a hijab. Iran is the Shia version of ISIS, HTS and Iran is even literally best pals with Islamic Jihad and Hamas.
It's also funny how you sent me a link from the turkish fake news government media Anadolu Agency meanwhile the turkish dictator erdogan is literally guilty of putting HTS in power and empowering ISIS and other terrorist groups to murder Kurds in northern Syria.The Syria project is one sponsored by the USA, Israel and Turkey.
Regarding Syria, of course the EU is going to take an interest. There are millions of Syrians living in Europe, and unless the EU manages to have a positive impact on the HTS, another migrant crisis is just around the corner.
HTS = Al Qaida. Do you not understand this? Their criminal terrorist leader JOLANI who now calls himself Al Sharraa (nice name change) is a hardcore Al Qaida terrorist. He was number 2 to Al Baghdadi in ISIS. Do you know any of this?
It's called diplomacy for a reason, use the leverage you have to create the best possible outcome. Yeah, support terrorists when it suits you. See how that turns out.
The golden rule in geopolitics is that it hates vacuums. Point in case: Russia is already trying to get in bed with HTS, so maybe you should turn your fake criticism away from the EU and turn it to your dear pal tough guy vlad putin.
And by the way, the German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock didn't even shake hands with the HTS during her visit. In what world is that a "cozy" meeting? Maybe she didn't want to cozy up too much to the terrorist. I mean it is terrible optics. How did the donor conference.
For the HTS terrorists turn out?
Welcome to Russia Today, your ultimate science fiction media! Guaranteed not a truth in sight.
Please tell me, what exactly did you find so controversial in the links you posted? Because after reading them, I see the follow statements:
French Foreign Minister Barrot expressing hope for a "sovereign, stable, and peaceful" Syria, while acknowledging that it's a "fragile hope. "
German Foreign Minister Baerbock saying Germany wants to help Syria become a "safe home" for all its people and a "functioning state, with full control over its territory. "
The Biden administration stating that the US could recognize a new Syrian government under certain conditions, including protecting minorities, ensuring humanitarian aid, preventing terrorism, and securing chemical and biological weapons.
Baerbock calling for an "inclusive and peaceful transfer of power" and warning against acts of vengeance, delays in elections, and the Islamization of Syria's judicial and education systems.
Barrot meeting with Syria's Christian communities and emphasizing France's commitment to a pluralistic Syria with equal rights for all, including minorities.
So, tell me, which part of this is the scandal? That European leaders are advocating for democracy, stability, human rights for all Syrians, including women & minorities, and the prevention of radicalism? That the EU and US want to avoid Syria becoming a terrorist haven? Or that they're calling for a peaceful transition into democracy?
You're so desperate to spin reality that you've ended up proving the exact opposite of what you were trying to say. Maybe you should step out of the Russia Today sci-fi fantasy world and start engaging with reality?Like I said, you're forgetting or conveniently ignoring that HTS = AL QAIDA. If you're okay with that, say so.
And these HTS terrorists killed tens of thousands of Christians and Alawites in the coastal regions of Syria. The media you watch didn't tell you this but I'm happy to educate you again.
Is this some sort of joke?
Ukraine is obviously not defeated.
Russia hasn't won the war, and they won't win the war.
The Russian losses on the battlefield are not sustainable.
The current Russian economy is not sustainable.
Modern warfare is about military technology, strategy and undoubtedly much less about manpower.
Putin started this war, just like Putin started a war against Georgia in 2008. What you write is not even close to be even remotely true.
War is Russia's thing, war is Putin's thing. Russia can't compete with USA, China or the EU when it comes to economy so they have to resort to wars to remain somewhat relevant.
Without war Russia is nothing. That's why all of the countries in Eastern Europe are turning to the EU. The EU is successful, Russia is not.
John McCain said it best: "Russia is a gas station with nukes".You once again fail at reading comprehension. Russia defeated Ukraine in March 2022 when Zelensky sued for peace in Istanbul.
Since then, it is Russia vs NATO using the poor innocent Ukrainians as cannon fodder.
What part of that do you not understand? Do you want me to type that for you in a different language? Which Euro language do you speak? Or I can dumb it down for you so you finally grasp it.
You once again fail at reading comprehension. Russia defeated Ukraine in March 2022 when Zelensky sued for peace in Istanbul.
Since then, it is Russia vs NATO using the poor innocent Ukrainians as cannon fodder.
What part of that do you not understand? Do you want me to type that for you in a different language? Which Euro language do you speak? Or I can dumb it down for you so you finally grasp it.Criminal dictator Putin seems afraid of Zelensky who had balls to resist to him since 3 years, when he propose now peace without Zelensky, but just lies, when only wanting to keep on war to kill Ukraine. Zelensky is not like USA on their knees sucking DT Putin.
You once again fail at reading comprehension. Russia defeated Ukraine in March 2022 when Zelensky sued for peace in Istanbul.
Since then, it is Russia vs NATO using the poor innocent Ukrainians as cannon fodder.
What part of that do you not understand? Do you want me to type that for you in a different language? Which Euro language do you speak? Or I can dumb it down for you so you finally grasp it.Zelenskyy wanted peace before the war started, Zelenskyy wants peace now, but putin wants war and that's the only reason why there is a war in Ukraine today. Until you manage to comprehend that one single, simple thing you won't understand what's going on in the world today.
Do you really believe what you write on here?
Everyone else knows that it's not true, you can get mad but your childish attempts to insult me doesn't work. It just makes you come across as intellectually challenged.
You're a liar just like putin and trump. I will never be stupid enough to believe any of your blatant lies.
It's the war criminal Putin and his imperialistic russia that are starting wars in Europe. NATO isn't even involved in the war, you have to be able to do better than this.
Ukraine doesn't start wars, Ukraine's neighbors are not afraid of Ukraine. France doesn't start wars, France's neighbors are not afraid of France.
It's russia, russia, russia that is starting all the wars!
I'm not defensive, I just like to call Xpartan names cause he's a dumb fuck.
Of course a lot of Russians are dying. But the kill ratio between Russians to Ukrainians is 1:7, in some places 1:10.More russia soldiers are dead and are dying, that's why putin had to beg North Korea to send troops.
NATO isn't even involved in the war
LOL.
Ignorant, stupid and hopeless.
I rest my case.
More russia soldiers are dead and are dying, that's why putin had to beg North Korea to send troops.I know you're not the brightest bulb but let me ask you something (I hope the simple question won't be too challenging for you mentally) and then explain something very simply to you so even you can maybe understand. Do try.
I know you do not have a military background, but this is a war of attrition. What matters the most in a war of attrition? Artillery.
The Russians have a 7 to 1 advantage in artillery. In some place, 10 to 1. Who is going to lose more men?
Try to grasp that and have a think.
LOL.
Ignorant, stupid and hopeless.
I rest my case.You sure are a stupid, ignorant, hopeless liar and that's exactly why all you have to offer are lies and insults.
I don't feel threatened by you in any way; your anger, lies and insults just confirms that you have nothing better to respond with.
You're defenseless against the truth.
Sorry, I should've said Sky News in addition to the BBC, etc.
It's amazing how ignorant you are. Gaza is under an Israeli OCCUPATION and BLOCKADE. But for you that is okay because you consider the Palestinians 'human animals'.
Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. There were no rapes or beheadings. On Oct 7 2023, close to 1200 people were killed. Many out of those, about 400, were Israeli soldiers who are fair game in a war. From the other 800, many were killed by the Israeli military as part of the Hannibal Directive that was implemented. You obviously have no idea about any of this so please google it. And yes, Hamas did kill several hundred innocent Israeli civilians which is a crime and they should not have done that and I condemn them for doing that.
No it's not the same thing. One is fighting an illegal occupation and is a resistance group.
HTS = Al Qaida rebranded. Get a clue.
The Syria project is one sponsored by the USA, Israel and Turkey.
HTS = Al Qaida. Do you not understand this? Their criminal terrorist leader JOLANI who now calls himself Al Sharraa (nice name change) is a hardcore Al Qaida terrorist. He was number 2 to Al Baghdadi in ISIS. Do you know any of this?
Yeah, support terrorists when it suits you. See how that turns out.
Maybe she didn't want to cozy up too much to the terrorist. I mean it is terrible optics. How did the donor conference.
For the HTS terrorists turn out?
Like I said, you're forgetting or conveniently ignoring that HTS = AL QAIDA. If you're okay with that, say so.
And these HTS terrorists killed tens of thousands of Christians and Alawites in the coastal regions of Syria. The media you watch didn't tell you this but I'm happy to educate you again.And that is why HTS is considered a terrorist organization by both USA and the EU. Just like hamas and islamic jihad.
HTS, Al Qaida, hamas, islamic jihad and isis have the same ideology. They are all terrorists.
And that's why it's great to see the EU doing their best to use their leverage to pressure HTS into having free and democratic elections and ensure humans rights for all Syrians regardless of gender and religious affiliation.
But it's not looking great and that's why HTS is still on the terror list.
It really isn't difficult to understand for most people.
It's a shame that putin betrayed Assad just like he betrayed Armenia. Putin sure is doing a lot of losing.
You support russian war criminals, palestinian terrorists and rapists.
We all know what happened the 7th, you can repeat your lies and your bad excuses but you will never convince anyone with a brain.
Originally Posted by ShooBree View Original Post.
NATO isn't even involved in the war. QUOTE.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_192648.htm. Since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022, NATO and Allies cooperation has been intensified in critical areas.
And of course Putin is now an indicted war criminal with an arrest warrant on his head, as well as Netanyahu and both Rightly so.
John Clayton
03-28-25, 18:50
I know you're not the brightest bulb but let me ask you something...Simply another tactic of of authoritarian propagandists. 1) Propaganda, disinformation and false information. If that doesn't work then 2) Insult and denigrate the opposition. And, if neither of those works, then 3) Flood the information space with lies and gibberish to blot out any real information.
Transparently this is paid propaganda. I don't know how this particular agent is paid, whether its by the word or the post; however, he is obviously required to pump out a certain amount of crap every day. It is clearly futile to try to engage him on a rational level. I am sure he is just a low level minion working at his "job". It is actually possible that his compensation is dependant on the level of engagement his posts get on this and other forums. I suggest you don't engage -- it's a waste of bandwidth.
LOL.
Ignorant, stupid and hopeless.
I rest my case.I went through Shoobree's posts. Nearly all in the various stupid shit / American politics sections and some deleted by the mod for being argumentative. Hookers sure earn their crust dealing with these jerk-off locos.
I went through Shoobree's posts. Nearly all in the various stupid shit / American politics sections and some deleted by the mod for being argumentative. Hookers sure earn their crust dealing with these jerk-off locos.Wow, aren't you embarrassed by your own hypocrisy and the fact that I so easily managed to make you my stalker or are you simply too stupid to understand how ridiculous you are?
But have fun licking the boots of putin's boot lickers.
Why is everyone talking about Gaza and the middle east in this here Ukraine section? Weird no? It's called stupid shit in Kyiv. I would love to bang some hot blonde babes in Kyiv. You know if memory serves, I did manage to bang a Ukraine babe in Prague years and years ago. So that's a notch on my belt. But yes, I would love to bang a hijab Palestinian babe too, but that's a long shot. I tell ya, if that happens, like a Mia Khalifa huge tits type arab hijab babe, they can chop my head off right away, cause I'd die happy. Hah!Palestine has been raised as an issue for one reason alone: the hypocrisy of certain motherfuckers who whilst condemning Russia for its aggression excuse Israel's equal and frequently worse evil genocide and gang rapes and brutalisation of Palestinians and these same motherfuckers' attempts to stifle this condemnation by labelling people criticising Israel and Israel supporters as anti semitic.
Originally Posted by ShooBree View Original Post.
NATO isn't even involved in the war. QUOTE.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_192648.htm. Since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022, NATO and Allies cooperation has been intensified in critical areas.
And of course Putin is now an indicted war criminal with an arrest warrant on his head, as well as Netanyahu and both Rightly so.Why even bother with this ignorant fool? LOL.
Here's the actual link:
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_192648.htm
NATO and Allies continue to provide Ukraine with unprecedented levels of support, helping to uphold its fundamental right to self-defence.
But NATO isn't even involved in the war he says. This guy makes Xpartan look bright.
And that is why HTS is considered a terrorist organization by both USA and the EU. Just like hamas and islamic jihad.
HTS, Al Qaida, hamas, islamic jihad and isis have the same ideology. They are all terrorists.
And that's why it's great to see the EU doing their best to use their leverage to pressure HTS into having free and democratic elections and ensure humans rights for all Syrians regardless of gender and religious affiliation.
So you agree HTS are terrorists, and you admit that the EU is cozying up to them because it suits them right now. That's all I'm saying too. Glad we could find some common ground, dipshit.
So you agree HTS are terrorists, and you admit that the EU is cozying up to them because it suits them right now. That's all I'm saying too. Glad we could find some common ground, dipshit.What I am saying is that you're a liar and the EU is pressuring the HTS to have elections and respect human rights for all Syrians. Meanwhile putin is supporting the terrorists in Tehran guilty of murdering school girls for not wearing hijabs and you're supporting palestinian rapists and terrorists.
Why even bother with this ignorant fool? LOL.
Here's the actual link:
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_192648.htm
NATO and Allies continue to provide Ukraine with unprecedented levels of support, helping to uphold its fundamental right to self-defence.
But NATO isn't even involved in the war he says. This guy makes Xpartan look bright.Ridiculous, NATO isn't involved in the war. China, Brazil and India are more involved in the war and their support for russia.
Wow, aren't you embarrassed by your own hypocrisy and the fact that I so easily managed to make you my stalker or are you simply too stupid to understand how ridiculous you are?
But have fun licking the boots of putin's boot lickers.You do not belong here. It took me about 2 minutes to glance through your posts. Whatever educational system you are a product if is broken, just like you are a broken record.
You do not belong here. It took me about 2 minutes to glance through your posts. Whatever educational system you are a product if is broken, just like you are a broken record.Wow, I love that you read all of my posts and feel so threatened by my words but yet you failed to formulate any criticism that doesn't make yourself come across as dumb and uneducated.
But don't worry, I will continue to speak the truth on this forum and you will continue to cry.
John Clayton
03-29-25, 16:32
You do not belong here. It took me about 2 minutes to glance through your posts. Whatever educational system you are a product if is broken, just like you are a broken record.This is paid political propaganda. The poster should be banned from this forum.
This is paid political propaganda. The poster should be banned from this forum.If you lot were parrots, you would be eaten, because you are incapable of learnign any more lines. Despicable, Nazi worshipping human beings.
This is paid political propaganda. The poster should be banned from this forum.You're pathetic. How many times have you called for a poster to be banned just because you disagree with them?
Ridiculous, NATO isn't involved in the war. China, Brazil and India are more involved in the war and their support for russia.As I said, your dumbass makes Xpartan look intelligent.
As I said, your dumbass makes Xpartan look intelligent.Coming from you I will take that as a compliment. Everyone already knows that russia can't win a war against Ukraine and would get completely annihilated if NATO decided to join in.
You're not living in this world, you're peddling lies to support russian war criminals.
Anyways, I will end my post with some relatively positive news from Syria;.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-swears-in-new-transitional-government-four-months-after-ousting-assad/amp/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/syrian-christian-hind-kabawat-becomes-first-woman-named-to-new-syria-government/
The new Syrian government is already less radical than the dictatorship in Iran, Gaza and the russian regions Dagestan and Chechnya.
Here are the dolls their kids are supposed to play with, dolls of young women with shredded limbs. And before any of our resident morons scream about Putler, there are plenty of such women in Ukraine, cannon fodder for Zelensky; s wife.
The 300,000 odd Nazis who run Ukraine are a suck lot and so are their paid sock puppets here.
Newton York
03-30-25, 17:33
Dude, no way is that real. It just can't be. It's got to be AI. Heck, at this point I might be an AI. Just some chat bot somewhere thinking I'm actually alive. Anyway, no way Ukrainians would bother wasting time making toys like that when they actually have real shit to deal with like fighting a war.
Now, if only I can have sex with some of them hijab babes in gaza.
Here are the dolls their kids are supposed to play with, dolls of young women with shredded limbs. And before any of our resident morons scream about Putler, there are plenty of such women in Ukraine, cannon fodder for Zelensky; s wife.
The 300,000 odd Nazis who run Ukraine are a suck lot and so are their paid sock puppets here.LOL, you are a clear case of the ZDS, Zelenskyj derangement syndrome.
It will get even worse for you when you realize that Zelenskyj will have streets, squares and avenues named after him all over Europe. Not to mention if you dare to open a history book; Zelenskyj is the 21th century version of Churchill and Putin is the 21th century Russian Hitler.
It's over for you buddy boy. You have already lost. You're on the wrong side of history. Just read the history books.
There's a comprehensive, well-researched article in today's New York Times about military aspects of the war in Ukraine, written from the American perspective. It's well worth a read. I believe you can read 10 free articles a month if you sign up with the NYT, but if anyone wants to read it and can't, please shoot me a PM and I'll try to figure out a way of getting it to you. It's far to long to post excerpts here.
My big takeaway, and I'm admittedly biased, is that there was a good chance Russia would have used tactical nuclear weapons if Ukraine had looked like it was going to take Crimea. In other words, Russia is not going to lose this war, so in my opinion Ukraine and the West should be looking for an end to this through peaceful means.
The piece describes several instances where Ukraine unwisely ignored USA Intelligence and advice at pivotal points because some of its generals didn't trust it, or were overly cautious, or were overly concerned with politics. Again though, it's written from the American perspective.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/29/world/europe/us-ukraine-military-war-wiesbaden.html
My big takeaway, and I'm admittedly biased, is that there was a good chance Russia would have used tactical nuclear weapons if Ukraine had looked like it was going to take Crimea.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/29/world/europe/us-ukraine-military-war-wiesbaden.htmlUkrtane has no chance of taking Crimea. The only thing Ukraine is taking is Western tax payers for a very expensive ride.
Thuis aritcle is written as the USA is openly talking about using nukes on Iran.
Edit: Is this the piece, comrade? https://archive.is/Fdwq3
Ukrtane has no chance of taking Crimea. The only thing Ukraine is taking is Western tax payers for a very expensive ride.
Thuis aritcle is written as the USA is openly talking about using nukes on Iran.
Edit: Is this the piece, comrade? https://archive.is/Fdwq3That's the article Jarango, https://archive.is/Fdwq3.
When it comes to Iran, Trump parrots the neoconservatives, but he's not as hawkish as some. By withdrawing from the nuclear treaty and imposing additional sanctions on Iran he figured he'd get them to come to the negotiating table. That was a bad bet. Sanctions and trade embargos don't work, as the USA's experience with Cuba, Venezuela and other countries has clearly shown. They didn't work against Russia.
Unfortunately Trump hasn't learned from his mistakes the last time around. Threatening to bomb Iran will only harden its resolve.
Apologies in advance to Xpartan and others for not starting a new "Stupid Shit in Iran" thread to discuss this.
That's the article Jarango, https://archive.is/Fdwq3.When it comes to Iran, Trump parrots the neoconservatives, but he's not as hawkish as some. .Bottom line, theIsraelis have them all. Vance was less hawkish on Yemen than the others. Gubbard, who was against it, is now all fir it. They all want war. Maybe war, in the form of giant mushroom clouds, is the way forward. The gangsters, who run Europe, want it. It beats me, in Europe at least, how these obvious morons and grifters gain power, or the illusion of it.
On the plus side, it is great to see the NGO lot lose their jobs in big numbers. Like Zelensky's lot, they are a gang of spongers.
QUOTE=Newton York no way is that real. It just can't be. It's got to be AI. Heck, at this point I might be an AI. Just some chat bot somewhere thinking I'm actually alive. Anyway, no way Ukrainians would bother wasting time making toys like that when they actually have real shit to deal with like fighting a war.
Now, if only I can have sex with some of them hijab babes in gaza. / QUOTE.
Start practicing with real. Dlls with hijab.
QUOTE=Newton York no way is that real. It just can't be. It's got to be AI. Heck, at this point I might be an AI. Just some chat bot somewhere thinking I'm actually alive. Anyway, no way Ukrainians would bother wasting time making toys like that when they actually have real shit to deal with like fighting a war.
Now, if only I can have sex with some of them hijab babes in gaza. / QUOTE.
Start practicing with real. Dlls with hijab. Dlls with hijab.
When it comes to Iran, Trump parrots the neoconservatives, but he's not as hawkish as some. By withdrawing from the nuclear treaty and imposing additional sanctions on Iran he figured he'd get them to come to the negotiating table. That was a bad bet. Sanctions and trade embargos don't work, as the USA's experience with Cuba, Venezuela and other countries has clearly shown. They didn't work against Russia. I see you still haven't tired of coming here day after day giving new meaning to the word wuss while sucking up to every new Russia supporter that crawls out of the woodwork. Sanctions have worked, as they promote deterrence by sending a message on the world stage while making life tougher for bad actors. They aren't just about winning converts or securing regime changes, while you've never made a case for your vague and wishy-washy do nothing and appeasement alternatives.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/30/world/europe/us-ukraine-military-war-takeaways.html
The war in Ukraine is at an inflection point, with President Trump seeking rapprochement with the Russian leader, Vladimir V. Putin, and pressing for an end to the fighting.
But for nearly three years before Mr. Trump's return to power, the United States and Ukraine were joined in an extraordinary partnership of intelligence, strategy, planning and technology whose evolution and inner workings have been known only to a small circle of American and allied officials.
With remarkable transparency, the Pentagon has offered a public accounting of the $66.5 billion in weaponry it has supplied to Ukraine. But a New York Times investigation reveals that America's involvement in the war was far deeper than previously understood. The secret partnership both guided big-picture battle strategy and funneled precise targeting information down to Ukrainian soldiers in the field.
Here are five takeaways from the investigation.
A USA Base in Wiesbaden, Germany, supplied the Ukrainians with the coordinates of Russian forces on their soil.
The idea behind the partnership was that America's close cooperation with Ukraine would compensate for Russia's vast advantages in manpower and weaponry. To guide the Ukrainians as they deployed their ever-more-sophisticated arsenal, the Americans created an operation called Task Force Dragon.
The secret center of the partnership was at the USA Army garrison in Wiesbaden, Germany. Each morning, USA And Ukrainian military officers set targeting priorities — Russian units, pieces of equipment or infrastructure. American and coalition intelligence officers searched satellite imagery, radio emissions and intercepted communications to find Russian positions. Task Force Dragon then gave the Ukrainians the coordinates so they could shoot at them.
Military officials worried that it might be unduly provocative to call the targets "targets. " Instead they were referred to as "points of interest. ".
USA Intelligence and artillery helped Ukraine quickly turn the tide against the Russian invasion.
In spring 2022, the Biden administration agreed to send High Mobility Artillery Systems, or HIMARS, which used satellite-guided rockets for strikes up to 50 miles distant.
In the war's first year, the Ukrainians were extremely dependent on the Americans for intelligence, and Task Force Dragon vetted and oversaw virtually every HIMARS strike.
The strikes caused Russian casualty rates to soar, and Ukraine's 2022 counteroffensive was largely successful: By December, the Ukrainians held an unlikely, David-versus-Goliath upper hand against their Russian foe.
The Biden administration kept moving its red lines.
From the first, administration officials sought to lay down a red line: America was not fighting Russia; it was helping Ukraine. Still, they worried that steps taken to accomplish that might provoke Mr. Putin to attack and. A. T. O. Targets or perhaps make good on his nuclear threats. Even as the administration developed an ever-greater tolerance of risk to help Ukraine meet the evolving threat, many of the most potentially provocative steps were taken in secret.
Easing a prohibition against American boots on Ukrainian ground, Wiesbaden was allowed to put about a dozen military advisers in Kyiv. To avoid drawing public attention to their presence, the Pentagon initially called them "subject matter experts. " Later the team was expanded, to about three dozen, and the military advisers were eventually allowed to travel to Ukrainian command posts closer to the fighting.
In 2022, the USA Navy was authorized to share targeting information for Ukrainian drone strikes on warships just beyond the territorial waters of Russian-annexed Crimea. The see. I. A. Was allowed to support Ukrainian operations within Crimean waters; that fall, the spy agency covertly helped Ukrainian drones strike Russian warships in the port of Sevastopol.
In January 2024, USA And Ukrainian military officers in Wiesbaden jointly planned a campaign — using coalition-supplied long-range missiles, along with Ukrainian drones — to attack about 100 Russian military targets across Crimea. The campaign, named Operation Lunar Hail, largely succeeded in forcing the Russians to pull equipment, facilities and forces in Crimea back to the Russian mainland.
Ultimately, the USA Military and see. I. A. Were allowed to help with strikes into Russia.
The hardest red line was the Russian border. But in spring 2024, to protect the northern city of Kharkiv against a Russian assault, the administration authorized the creation of an "ops box" — a zone of Russian territory within which USA Officers in Wiesbaden could provide the Ukrainians with precise coordinates. The box's first iteration extended across a wide swath of Ukraine's northern border. The box was expanded after North Korea sent troops to help fight the Ukrainians' incursion into Russia's Kursk region. The USA Military was later allowed to enable missile strikes in an area of southern Russia where the Russians staged forces and equipment for their offensive in eastern Ukraine.
Longstanding policy barred the see. I. A. From providing intelligence on targets on Russian soil. But the see. I. A. Could request "variances," carve-outs to support strikes for specific objectives. Intelligence had identified a vast munitions depot in Toropets, 290 miles north of the Ukrainian border. On Sept. 18,2024, a swarm of drones slammed into the munitions depot. The blast, as powerful as a small earthquake, opened a crater the width of a football field. Later, the see. I. A. Was allowed to enable Ukrainian drone strikes in southern Russia to try to slow advances in eastern Ukraine.
Political disagreements in Ukraine contributed to the 2023 counteroffensive's collapse.
The 2023 counteroffensive was meant to build momentum after the first year's triumphs. But after the partners held war games in Wiesbaden and agreed on a strategy, the plan ran headlong into Ukrainian politics.
The Ukrainian armed forces chief, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, embraced the plan, whose centerpiece was an assault in the direction of the southern city of Melitopol that would cut off Russian supply lines. But his rival and subordinate, Col. Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky, had his own plan — to impale Russian forces in the occupied eastern city of Bakhmut. The Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, sided with him and divided up the ammunition and forces between two main fronts instead of one. The Ukrainians never did reclaim Bakhmut, and within months, the counteroffensive ended in failure.
Russia now had the upper hand.
My big takeaway, and I'm admittedly biased, is that there was a good chance Russia would have used tactical nuclear weapons if Ukraine had looked like it was going to take Crimea. In other words, Russia is not going to lose this war, so in my opinion Ukraine and the West should be looking for an end to this through peaceful means.Which of course completely ignores the likely devastating Western military response to any use of tactical nuclear weapons, and generally the fact that Russia isn't the only nuclear country. Nonetheless the West and Ukraine need to just bend over and grab their ankles now while begging Russia not to make it hurt too bad. In fact that's what they all should have done three years ago. Why? Because Tiny, an obsessed little weasel in a hooker forum says so. Damn Ukraine for objecting to the invasion of their country based on myths and distorted history. The same goes for complaining about all the war crimes, as Little Vlad has rattled the nuclear saber and Little Tiny in Stupid Shit insists on a surrender. All will be well, until the next time a little weasel decides to threaten nuclear war.
Here are the dolls their kids are supposed to play with, dolls of young women with shredded limbs. And before any of our resident morons scream about Putler, there are plenty of such women in Ukraine, cannon fodder for Zelensky; s wife.
The 300,000 odd Nazis who run Ukraine are a suck lot and so are their paid sock puppets here.Russian loses are substantial and heartbreaking. Just ask their mothers, but you know that already don't you? Speaking of sock puppets and morons, while the smarter ones packed up and ran for the border to dodge the draft. Wink.
But in any case, your imagined superpower status with an economy about the size of Texas has long ago been exposed, while you can't even conquer your much smaller neighbor. The West isn't impressed, nor is the audience of under 10 on an overflow thread in a hooker forum.
LOL, you are a clear case of the ZDS, Zelenskyj derangement syndrome.
It will get even worse for you when you realize that Zelenskyj will have streets, squares and avenues named after him all over Europe. Not to mention if you dare to open a history book; Zelenskyj is the 21th century version of Churchill and Putin is the 21th century Russian Hitler.
It's over for you buddy boy. You have already lost. You're on the wrong side of history. Just read the history books.I wonder what this dumb shit will say when Zelensky packs his bags and runs away to one of his mansions in Europe. But he will find some way to justify that too I'm sure.
My big takeaway, and I'm admittedly biased, is that there was a good chance Russia would have used tactical nuclear weapons if Ukraine had looked like it was going to take Crimea. In other words, Russia is not going to lose this war, so in my opinion Ukraine and the West should be looking for an end to this through peaceful means.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/29/world/europe/us-ukraine-military-war-wiesbaden.htmlI agree. The high point for Ukraine was in Late 2002 when Russia made those tactical withdrawals from Kherson and Kharkov region. That was the best time for the Nazi Kiev regime to have negotiated. Since then it has all been downhill and will continue to be so. And yes, Russia would have used tactical nukes if Crimea was threatened and even if Ukraine had been able to severe the land bridge to Crimea during the now FAILED counter offensive in Summer 2023. And there's no way the USA would have responded back with a nuclear weapon. There's no way that a USA president would risk losing Chicago, NYC or LA for Ukraine. Not going to happen.
Bottom line, theIsraelis have them all. Vance was less hawkish on Yemen than the others. Gubbard, who was against it, is now all fir it. They all want war. Maybe war, in the form of giant mushroom clouds, is the way forward. The gangsters, who run Europe, want it. It beats me, in Europe at least, how these obvious morons and grifters gain power, or the illusion of it.
On the plus side, it is great to see the NGO lot lose their jobs in big numbers. Like Zelensky's lot, they are a gang of spongers.Trump's hands are tied. So are Tulsi Gabbard's. The Israeli lobby is too powerful, they control everything.
Ukrtane has no chance of taking Crimea. The only thing Ukraine is taking is Western tax payers for a very expensive ride.
They only reached the first Russian defense belt out of multiple ones during the much-touted failed counter offensive in 2023. Crimea is forever gone, so are the 4 new territories. Better for Ukraine to negotiate seriously now before they lose Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipro and Nikolaev. And tens of thousands of more men, like the EU warmongers want.
They only reached the first Russian defense belt out of multiple ones during the much-touted failed counter offensive in 2023. Crimea is forever gone, so are the 4 new territories. Better for Ukraine to negotiate seriously now before they lose Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipro and Nikolaev. And tens of thousands of more men, like the EU warmongers want.Hahaha, Russia can't even fully control the four regions they falsely claimed to be a part of their little nazi Russia. I love that Russia is starting war after war and you are crying because Russia can't win their failed war against Ukraine due to the military support from the Biden administration and the European countries.
The EU doesn't start wars, the EU is even criticized for not spending enough on their military and the people of Russia is suffering because Putin is spending all their money on wars.
It is obvious that no one loves peace more than the European Union.
Little nazi Russia starts wars, little nazi Russia commits war crimes and little nazi Russia refuses to end the war.
Almost 1 million dead Russians and now we see how Putin and Kim have to send North Koreans to die just because Putin suffers from a severe inferiority complex.
Shouldn't Putin deal with the failed Russian economy and the radical Islamization of Dagestan and Chechnya?
Little Putin can't even control his own country.
Sad to see that putin is getting ready to send 160'000 more russian teenagers to die in Ukraine.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/49935
I agree. The high point for Ukraine was in Late 2002 when Russia made those tactical withdrawals from Kherson and Kharkov region. That was the best time for the Nazi Kiev regime to have negotiated. Since then it has all been downhill and will continue to be so. And yes, Russia would have used tactical nukes if Crimea was threatened and even if Ukraine had been able to severe the land bridge to Crimea during the now FAILED counter offensive in Summer 2023. And there's no way the USA would have responded back with a nuclear weapon. There's no way that a USA president would risk losing Chicago, NYC or LA for Ukraine. Not going to happen.RE: The bold text, Mark Milley said the same thing, or at least that's what the journalist says in the NYT article that Questner summarized and that Jarango and I linked to. In early 2023, recognizing that Ukraine was in the strongest possible position, he floated the idea that Ukraine should pursue cutting a deal with Russia. As you probably already know, Milley was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest military officer in the USA, right under the Secretary of Defense.
Another takeaway from the article is that the USA Military wanted Ukraine to pursue strategies to get the war over with, be it through peace as suggested by Milley, or through aggressively pushing through to Melitopol or Mariupol when the Ukrainians had the chance. Now, is the latter, actually trying to win the war, a good idea? Given the Russians have the largest nuclear armory in the world, and as you imply was willing to get medieval if backed into a corner, that's debatable. But in any event the American generals were pushing the Ukrainians and the Biden administration to get this over with. The Biden administration, Zelensky and the Ukrainian generals, with one exception (General Zabrodskyi) on the other hand, knowingly or not, appeared intent on drawing the conflict out as long as possible. In your words, fighting this war "to the last Ukrainian. ".
Which of course completely ignores the likely devastating Western military response to any use of tactical nuclear weapons, and generally the fact that Russia isn't the only nuclear country. Nonetheless the West and Ukraine need to just bend over and grab their ankles now while begging Russia not to make it hurt too bad. In fact that's what they all should have done three years ago. Why? Because Tiny, an obsessed little weasel in a hooker forum says so. Damn Ukraine for objecting to the invasion of their country based on myths and distorted history. The same goes for complaining about all the war crimes, as Little Vlad has rattled the nuclear saber and Little Tiny in Stupid Shit insists on a surrender. All will be well, until the next time a little weasel decides to threaten nuclear war.
....you've never made a case for your vague and wishy-washy do nothing and appeasement alternatives.I may be a globalist, but I'm also a realist. Ukraine's not going to win this war. You, on the other hand, are Slim Pickens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y
Since I first posted in this thread, in June of 2023, I've been arguing Ukraine should pursue peace, the same advice Mark Milley offered a few months before (see post #4214). As Blood Red correctly argues, Ukraine's position has gotten worse since then.
When did I threaten a nuclear war? You need to get a grip Paulie. I'm merely a poster on a hooker board. I have no control over world events.
I see you still haven't tired of coming here day after day giving new meaning to the word wuss while sucking up to every new Russia supporter that crawls out of the woodwork. Sanctions have worked, as they promote deterrence by sending a message on the world stage while making life tougher for bad actors. They aren't just about winning converts or securing regime changes, while you've never made a case for your vague and wishy-washy do nothing and appeasement alternatives.Hey Paulie, You should visit Cuba and Russia and see for yourself. Cuba is destitute and many Cubans blame sanctions imposed by the USA. I've even heard that from Cuban "political" refugees in America. Russia on the other hand is doing marvelously. There's an article in the WSJ today, For Russias Economy Peace Poses a Threat, that argues the country will take an economic hit if the war stops.
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/russia-war-economy-ukraine-peace-deal-783b8bdb
As to deterrence, perhaps you have a point, with respect to China for example. But at what cost? Sanctions kill a lot of people. UNICEF estimates over 500,000 Iraqi children died by 1999 because of sanctions. The CEPR attributes 40,000 Venezuelan deaths to USA Sanctions in 2017 and 2018 alone. Many more have died in Iran, Cuba and North Korea.
But, you know, you're right. I shouldn't, as you say, make vague and wishy-washy comments. So I wrote a well-researched essay for you!
WHY SANCTIONS DONT WORK
By The Little Weasle!
Sanctions are widely used as a foreign policy toolimposed to punish aggression, deter nuclear proliferation, or pressure governments into reform. They are often viewed as a less violent alternative to war, allowing nations to signal disapproval and exert influence without direct conflict. But despite their popularity, sanctions rarely deliver on their promises. In fact, they often entrench the very regimes they aim to weaken, while causing widespread suffering among ordinary people.
According to a landmark study by Gary Clyde Hufbauer, Jeffrey Schott, and Kimberly Ann Elliott in their book Economic Sanctions Reconsidered, sanctions are only successful about 30% of the time. That means in 7 out of 10 cases, sanctions fail to produce the desired change in behavior. And that 30% includes many cases where success was partial or achieved in tandem with other forms of pressure, such as military threats or diplomacy.
Take Russia. Since 2014 and especially after the 2022 invasion of Ukraine the West has unleashed a historic barrage of sanctions on Russia: freezing central bank assets, cutting off banks from SWIFT, blocking exports of high-tech goods, and restricting oil revenues. Yet despite the economic damage, Russia continues its war. Far from buckling, the country has reoriented its economy, expanded trade with China and India. They've provided political fuel, as they can be framed as proof of Western hostility, and they've rallied domestic support.
Cuba illustrates how sanctions can become frozen in place despite decades of failure. The USA Embargo, imposed in the early 1960's, has now lasted more than 60 years. It has not ended communist rule or ushered in democracy. What it has done is contribute to economic stagnation, limit access to vital goods, and offer the Cuban government a convenient scapegoat for internal dysfunction. The regime has not collapsedinstead, it adapted, survived, and even built soft power through medical diplomacy and resistance branding.
Iran offers another instructive case. Sanctions have long been used to pressure Iran over its nuclear ambitions and regional behavior. While they arguably helped bring Iran to the negotiating table for the 2015 nuclear deal (JCPOA), the USA Withdrawal from the agreement in 2018 and reimposition of "maximum pressure" sanctions failed to produce a better dealor a change in regime behavior. Instead, Iran resumed uranium enrichment, cracked down domestically, and deepened ties with non-Western powers. The sanctions hurt the Iranian economy, but not enough to break the regime's hold on power.
In Venezuela, sanctions were intended to dislodge Nicols Maduro and support democratic transition. Instead, they helped accelerate an economic meltdown that was already underway. The result wasn't regime change, but mass emigration, humanitarian crisis, and further consolidation of authoritarian rule. Maduro used the sanctions to paint the opposition as collaborators with foreign aggressors, strengthening his narrative and weakening dissent.
These cases aren't anomaliesthey are part of a pattern. Sanctions tend to fail because they rest on flawed assumptions: that pain leads to capitulation, that regimes act in good faith under pressure, and that people suffering under sanctions will rise up and demand change. In reality, authoritarian governments are often most skilled at weathering external threats. They repress opposition, exploit patriotic sentiment, and channel hardship into regime loyalty.
Moreover, the humanitarian impact is profound. Sanctions can lead to inflation, medicine shortages, decaying infrastructure, and a deteriorating quality of lifewithout touching the powerful. They often hurt those least responsible and least able to change the system. And they rarely include effective off-ramps or diplomatic pathways, meaning that once sanctions are imposed, they become politically difficult to lift.
Even when sanctions seem to "work," it's usually because they're paired with credible diplomacy or military leverage, not because of economic pressure alone. Sanctions without strategy become little more than symbolic gesturesmorally satisfying, but practically ineffective.
In short, the historical and empirical record is clear: sanctions fail far more often than they succeed. They have not broken the back of regimes in Cuba, Iran, or Venezuela. They tend to prolong crises, deepen suffering, and rarely produce the political change they promise.
Newton York
04-02-25, 02:39
Things are sad enough as it is, how are you guys not making yourselves sadder by arguing about all this war and politics stuff? I sure wish the 'stupid shit in Kyiv' thread was about Ukraine chicks and their crazy antics. Granted, this thread has become like this now because Ukraine was invaded, but still. Even during war there's got to be sex being sold, especially in Kyiv.
RE: The bold text, Mark Milley said the same thing, or at least that's what the journalist says in the NYT article that Questner summarized and that Jarango and I linked to. In early 2023, recognizing that Ukraine was in the strongest possible position, he floated the idea that Ukraine should pursue cutting a deal with Russia. As you probably already know, Milley was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest military officer in the USA, right under the Secretary of Defense.
.Mark Milley was also the one that said 'Kiev in 3 days' before the invasion. The pathetic fake dishonest western mainstream media then lied and said it was Putin who said that when the war started which he didn't.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources
AntonySun1996
04-02-25, 14:27
Things are sad enough as it is, how are you guys not making yourselves sadder by arguing about all this war and politics stuff? I sure wish the 'stupid shit in Kyiv' thread was about Ukraine chicks and their crazy antics. Granted, this thread has become like this now because Ukraine was invaded, but still. Even during war there's got to be sex being sold, especially in Kyiv.Exactly my thought.
Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.
There are too many pussies out there waiting to be fucked for people to waste time on this shit.
Mark Milley was also the one that said 'Kiev in 3 days' before the invasion. The pathetic fake dishonest western mainstream media then lied and said it was Putin who said that when the war started which he didn't.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sourcesNo, Putin said two weeks.
And here we are three years later.
Little Putin failed, but he managed to lose 300 billion dollars of the Russian state's money.
Exactly my thought.
Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.
There are too many pussies out there waiting to be fucked for people to waste time on this shit.Many posters on this thread who have never been to Kiev or other parts of Ukraine.
Exactly my thought.
Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.
There are too many pussies out there waiting to be fucked for people to waste time on this shit.Many posters on this thread who have never been to Kiev or other parts of Ukraine.
Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.I would, that's who! But only on days when Paulie97 comes out to play.
Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum..Arguing about politics is fine. Lots of informed people do it and not everyone has a 24/7 obsession to jacking off to beaver, which is why a wholev range of threads exist on this site. The problem is arguing with igoramuses like Paulie, XPartan and the other sewer idiotss. Wrestle with a pig etc.
Many posters on this thread who have never been to Kiev or other parts of Ukraine.But I meet Ukrainian women who needs to leave their country and they all tell me they dream to return, even quite poor country, after Putin who doesn't want to stop war and feel supported by shameful Trump gang.
QUOTE=AntonySun1996 Exactly my thought.
Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.
There are too many pussies out there waiting to be fucked for people to waste time on this shit. / QUOTE.
The talk about Sex and Politics in Kiev in 2009 ,going down memory lane.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?816-Kyiv/page1105
Indeed times have changed, No Thanks To Bad Vlad.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE
QUOTE=Jojosun; QUOTE=AntonySun1996 Exactly my thought.
Who the fuck would argue about politics all day on a sex forum.
There are too many pussies out there waiting to be fucked for people to waste time on this shit. / QUOTE.
The talk about Sex and Politics in Kiev in 2009 ,going down memory lane.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?816-Kyiv/page1105
Indeed times have changed, No Thanks To Bad Vlad.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD//QUOTE
For Your Dicks Only, LOL, The EU or Closer to Russia! That was the Question on this Forum back in November 2009.
: Quote Originally Posted by Strike 69.
I heard a rumour about this new elections and the intentions of the new government to get closer to Russia rather than the west (US), even to start demanding visas again to Americans, does anybody knows something about?
I hope it is true. It will mean, much better prices for (us) western mongers.
With every crises there is a silver lining.
Closer to the west means one thing, on the road to the European union and western prices.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?816-Kyiv/page1104
/ QUOTE=Sirioja;2 But I meet Ukrainian women who needs to leave their country and they all tell me they dream to return, even quite poor country, after Putin who doesn't want to stop war and feel supported by shameful Trump gang. / QUOTE.
LOL, Why do you think he is called PUTIN, and not PULLOUT.
QUOTE=ShooBree; No, Putin said two weeks.
And here we are three years later.
Little Putin failed, but he managed to lose 300 billion dollars of the Russian state's money. / QUOTE.
But he managed to prove that the Russian Army is The Second Best Army in Ukraine. LOL.
No military expert here, But I am willing to wager that The Israeli Army which is the best in the region, with many of soldiers and commanders are either Russian or Russian origin, would easily defeat The Russian Army in a conventional war, thanks to unlimited support by The US.
Yet this same Israeli Army was caught off guard on Oct 7, 23 by a Militia? One Israeli Arab Comedian joked, Palestinians proved 'Toyotas don't Break Down'. He was referring to the Toyota Pick Up trucks used by Nasty Hamas in its invasion of Israel on October 7.
All the talk here about wars, Himaris, Artillery, Jogged my memory back to what life was like in a Bunker in past wars as shown here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWhSCdnThaY.
LOL, Much more interesting Having Goldie Hawn pop up in the Bunker than a Ukrainian Look_alike of the Iron Lady born in Kiev, Golda Meir.
Elvis 2008
04-08-25, 15:00
I was listening to the treasury secretary talk on Tucker Carlson yesterday, and it was clear that he knew that the Trump tariffs were going to take down the stock market in the short term. He made the case not just for the long term benefits. He said that the bottom 50% of Americans did not own any stock and were in debt, and that lower interest rates would help them. He also reiterated that the best thing for corporations to do was to move their businesses to the USA to avoid tariffs. The Democratic response will be that Trump did not know what he is doing, but that is bullshit, Trump was willing to take the short term hit to do what he thought was best for the country in the long term.
And that is why you know the Democrats are full of shit on Ukraine. If the elites and government really thought Putin was Hilter, then Biden should have not put on these bullshit just for show sanctions on Russian oil but really taken it totally off the market. So if this war were really serious and Putin really was Hitler, Russian oil should have been boycotted, and the price of gasoline would have reached $8 a gallon.
Did the Democrats say that though? Did they say $8 gasoline was the price we would have to pay to stop Putin? Of course not. In fact, the Democratic douches did the opposite of that. They drained the strategic reserve to get gasoline prices lower, and that is how you know the war is total bullshit. Do you remember what the Bush administration told us when we were at war with Iraq? Oh, yeah, go to the mall. Go shopping. Say what? Saddam had weapons of mass destruction he was going to use, and you are telling us to go to the mall? That told me the Bush crew and his prowar neocons, the same ones advising Biden, were full of shit.
In fact, the whole Ukraine thing was to distract from Covid which was taken very seriously when it should not have been. In fact, the end of the world apocalypse of Covid was switched out with the end of the world Putin is Hitler apocalypse. So whenever the government is spreading that kind of message, you should see if governments are really willing to put their economies at risk for that cause.
The government was willing to do that with Covid (even though they should not have) but not with Ukraine. If Europe really quit buying Russian natural gas and gasoline prices were $8 a gallon, then I might listen to you about Putin as Hitler, but until that happens, shut the fuck up! Get back to me when you are willing to make sacrifices.
/ QUOTE=Sirioja;2 But I meet Ukrainian women who needs to leave their country and they all tell me they dream to return, even quite poor country, after Putin who doesn't want to stop war and feel supported by shameful Trump gang. / QUOTE.
LOL, Why do you think he is called PUTIN, and not PULLOUT.When senile Trump failed to stop Putin war, I wish petrol rate will fall very down very fast, for less money for Putin criminal war. No more money is only way to stop Putin, when shameful Trump wants to make business with him and sucking him.
But I meet Ukrainian women who needs to leave their country and they all tell me they dream to return, even quite poor country, after Putin who doesn't want to stop war and feel supported by shameful Trump gang.The majority of the Ukrainians that have left Ukraine for the EU, etc will never return. Why would they. That's why Ukraine is dying demographically too.
The majority of the Ukrainians that have left Ukraine for the EU, etc will never return. Why would they. That's why Ukraine is dying demographically too.Not what I hear from their mouth. Why? Because they love their country and family. Despite stupid Trump, I wish criminal Putin won t get anymore money for his war soon. Petrol falling rate is good point versus Putin who will stop when only no more money.
The majority of the Ukrainians that have left Ukraine for the EU, etc will never return. Why would they. That's why Ukraine is dying demographically too.LOL, many of the Ukrainians will return but we all know that russia is dying from the inside.
The Russian people are fleeing putin and his failed war and his failed economy but they are not welcomed in the EU so that's why Georgia and Armenia are full of russian refugees.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/14/world/europe/russians-georgia-armenia-war.html
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/russia-tomorrow/a-russia-without-russians-putins-disastrous-demographics/
https://www.business-standard.com/amp/world-news/russians-ignore-putin-s-call-for-more-babies-as-population-declines-125030800426_1.html
Putin truly is a low level rat faced kgb translator that doesn't have the intelligence to run any country.
It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.
Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.
Putin is not fit to be the leader of russia, he is mentally weak (putin lost 300 billion dollars at the start of the war) and he has a distorted view of reality. How else can you explain the horrendous photos of him without a shirt with his flabby belly and chips tits out for the world to laugh at? I would be embarrassed if I looked liked that and the whole world saw it.
Little putin should be way too old, fat and ugly to pose for those kind of pictures like he's a hot slutty college girl gone wild on Spring Break.
It's embarrassing, russia's governed by an old, fluffy egomaniac with the mentality of a slutty college girl gone wild.
There's no doubt that putin and his russia is waging a war against all of humanity and Donald trump is now his accomplice.
It has been obvious for years, and now no one can any longer with credibility deny the obvious, little putin is not interested in peace for humans. When the inadequate trump and evil putin speak about peace, they mean peace for russian oil and russian warships in the Black Sea guilty of murdering Ukrainian children.
Little putin wants wars, death and destruction.
He needs the dictatorships and wars to live on.
He wants children, humanity, democracy and honesty to die a gruesome death.
https://kyivindependent.com/russian-attack-on-kryvyi-rih-kills-19-people-including-9-children-injures-68/
It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.
Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.
This is an over 18 site, Go away.
It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.
Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.
Putin is not fit to be the leader of russia, he is mentally weak (putin lost 300 billion dollars at the start of the war) and he has a distorted view of reality. How else can you explain the horrendous photos of him without a shirt with his flabby belly and chips tits out for the world to laugh at? I would be embarrassed if I looked liked that and the whole world saw it.
Little putin should be way too old, fat and ugly to pose for those kind of pictures like he's a hot slutty college girl gone wild on Spring Break.
It's embarrassing, russia's governed by an old, fluffy egomaniac with the mentality of a slutty college girl gone wild.
There's no doubt that putin and his russia is waging a war against all of humanity and Donald trump is now his accomplice.
It has been obvious for years, and now no one can any longer with credibility deny the obvious, little putin is not interested in peace for humans. When the inadequate trump and evil putin speak about peace, they mean peace for russian oil and russian warships in the Black Sea guilty of murdering Ukrainian children.
Little putin wants wars, death and destruction.
He needs the dictatorships and wars to live on.
He wants children, humanity, democracy and honesty to die a gruesome death.
https://kyivindependent.com/russian-attack-on-kryvyi-rih-kills-19-people-including-9-children-injures-68/
Putin is an indicted war criminal by The International Criminal Court and rightly so and I said so on this thread more than once.
No whatabouty here, but this same court also indicted A Certain leader in The Middle East whose name we can't mention here in case it offends some!, Who will do his best to get what's left of Palestine For Free, Free Palestine what a bargain, LOL, And president Trump gets Gazzaland.
QUOTE=ShooBree; It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.
Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.
Putin is not fit to be the leader of russia, he is mentally weak (putin lost 300 billion dollars at the start of the war) and he has a distorted view of reality. How else can you explain the horrendous photos of him without a shirt with his flabby belly and chips tits out for the world to laugh at? I would be embarrassed if I looked liked.
That and the whole world saw it.
Little putin should be way too old, fat and ugly to pose for those kind of pictures like he's a hot slutty college girl gone wild on Spring Break.
It's embarrassing, russia's governed by an old, fluffy egomaniac with the mentality of a slutty college girl gone wild.
There's no doubt that putin and his russia is waging a war against all of humanity and Donald trump is now his accomplice.
It has been obvious for years, and now no one can any longer with credibility deny the obvious, little putin is not interested in peace for humans. When the inadequate trump and evil putin speak about peace, they mean peace for russian oil and russian warships in the Black Sea guilty of murdering Ukrainian children.
Little putin wants wars, death and destruction.
He needs the dictatorships and wars to live on.
He wants children, humanity, democracy and honesty to die a gruesome death.
https://kyivindependent.com/russian-attack-on-kryvyi-rih-kills-19-people-including-9-children-injures-QUOTE
Putin is an indicted war criminal by The International Criminal Court and rightly so and I said so on this thread more than once.
No whatabouty here, but this same court also indicted A Certain leader in The Middle East whose name we can't mention here in case it offends some!, Who will do his best to get what's left of Palestine For Free, Free Palestine what a bargain, LOL, And president Trump gets Gazzaland.Cherry picking and whataboutism would be the right way to describe your irrelevant posts and obsession to talk about the Middle East when we are in the Ukrainian part of the forum.
Do you still remember the 7th October when the Palestinians decided to rape, murder and kidnap over a thousand innocent Israelis, children and elderly.
You really don't want to talk about that.
The Middle East and North Africa is full of leaders that have committed atrocities, not at least the Palestinian, Gazan, Turkish and Iranian leaders.
I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but when it comes to MENA there's no city I would rather live in than Tel Aviv, a city where people are guaranteed human rights, free speech and religious freedom.
Have you ever asked yourself the question why Jews had to flee from there homes in other countries in the MENA region?
As I said earlier I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but I will never support isis, Iran and Palestinian terrorist groups.
Putin is an indicted war criminal by The International Criminal Court and rightly so and I said so on this thread more than once.
No whatabouty here, but this same court also indicted A Certain leader in The Middle East whose name we can't mention here in case it offends some!, Who will do his best to get what's left of Palestine For Free, Free Palestine what a bargain, LOL, And president Trump gets Gazzaland.This Shroobee dumbfuck doesn't have the balls to call a spade a spade. And yes, Netantyahu and Gallant are both also indicted by the ICC.
Cherry picking and whataboutism would be the right way to describe your irrelevant posts and obsession to talk about the Middle East when we are in the Ukrainian part of the forum.
Do you still remember the 7th October when the Palestinians decided to rape, murder and kidnap over a thousand innocent Israelis, children and elderly.
You really don't want to talk about that.
The Middle East and North Africa is full of leaders that have committed atrocities, not at least the Palestinian, Gazan, Turkish and Iranian leaders.
I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but when it comes to MENA there's no city I would rather live in than Tel Aviv, a city where people are guaranteed human rights, free speech and religious freedom.
Have you ever asked yourself the question why Jews had to flee from there homes in other countries in the MENA region?
As I said earlier I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but I will never support isis, Iran and Palestinian terrorist groups.From the chronology of the thread, you clearly don't understand the meaning of cherry picking nor whataboutism, neither of which fallacy is apposite in your discussion.
If anyone were guilty of these, it would be you. When you highlight the hamas atrocities but ignore completely the fact that Israel has massacred 50 x as many (50,000) innocent Palestinians, including women and children, in the last 1. 5 years alone.
Of course, you'd prefer to live in Tel Aviv or Israel, a colonising, misanthropic, rterrorising racist, state seems right up your street.
You should sacrifice your own land and your homes to the Israeli jews. We would see how far your supposed magnanimity stretches.
From the chronology of the thread, you clearly don't understand the meaning of cherry picking nor whataboutism, neither of which fallacy is apposite in your discussion.
If anyone were guilty of these, it would be you. When you highlight the hamas atrocities but ignore completely the fact that Israel has massacred 50 x as many (50,000) innocent Palestinians, including women and children, in the last 1. 5 years alone.
Of course, you'd prefer to live in Tel Aviv or Israel, a colonising, misanthropic, rterrorising racist, state seems right up your street.
You should sacrifice your own land and your homes to the Israeli jews. We would see how far your supposed magnanimity stretches.Hahaha, I'm not surprised to see another one of your unhinged rants about Israel and people guilty of criticizing the Palestinian terrorist organizations in Gaza.
I'm not a fan of Netanyahu, I wrote it two times in the post you replied to so people would be able to see that I'm under no illusions that Netanyahu is a perfect leader. It's obvious that the Israelis and their leaders are increasingly adjusting to the dominant Middle Eastern culture under which minorities like Jews and Christians have suffered immensely.
I can't help but to notice that you fail to address my question regarding why the Jews in other MENA countries had to flee their homes and go to Israel?
I understand that you don't want to answer that question because you'the be forced to face the truth and explain that Jews could only be safe in Israel, far away from the oppressive neighbors.
You call the Israelis colonizers but you avoid the fact that Christians and Jews have been oppressed by their muslim neighbors for centuries. Why would Jews and Christians have to live under oppression, violence and Sharia laws?
I have been to Tel Aviv many times and it's a wonderful Israeli city built by the Israelis.
When I go to Tel Aviv I feel freedom, I feel liberation.
Iran, gaza and turkey would benefit from that kind of freedom.
In Iran women get murdered by the regime for showing their hair.
In turkey terrorists from hamas walk the streets freely but journalists, politicians and ordinary people are jailed for wanting freedom and democracy.
In gaza Christians are suffering under islamists.
That's not the case in Israel.
I'm not Jewish, but Israel is the only country in the MENA where my human rights as a Christian are guaranteed.
You obviously don't know nor do you understand what cherry picking and whataboutism means. It's pathetic how badly you failed when you tried to throw it back at me. You truly are a child.
I don't understand why you're so aggressive when it comes to Israel when you ignore so many other issues.
1. Turkey & Northern Cyprus – Turkey has occupied Northern Cyprus since 1974, ethnically cleansing Greeks from the region, yet you people who demand "Free Palestine" don't say a word about "Free Cyprus. " Why? Because Turkey is a Muslim country, and criticizing it doesn't fit the "good vs. Evil" narrative you want to push.
2. Turkey's Foundation on Stolen Lands – Turkey itself was built on genocide and land theft. The Armenian Genocide, the mass slaughter of Assyrians, the ethnic cleansing of Greeks, and the ongoing oppression of Kurds—yet Turkey plays the victim and positions itself as a "Muslim defender. "
3. Azerbaijan's Ethnic Cleansing of Armenians – In Artsakh, Azerbaijan, backed by Turkey and jihadists, ethnically cleansed 120,000 Armenians in 2023. Did you care? No. No protests. No UN emergency meetings. Why? Again, because the victims weren't politically convenient.
4. Morocco & Western Sahara – Morocco and the Arabs have occupied Western Sahara since 1975, oppressing the Sahrawi people and silencing Berbers in the south. Yet Morocco waves the Palestinian flag as if they are against "occupation. "
Why is it Always About Israel?
1. Antisemitism – The obsession with Israel is fueled by deep-rooted Jew-hatred. Many of you people don't actually care about human rights — you just want to attack Jews and frame Israel as the ultimate villain.
2. Anti-Western Sentiments – Israel is often falsely labeled as a "white European settler state," even though over half of Israelis are Mizrahi Jews (from Israel, the Middle East and North Africa where they were victims of oppression and massacres from their Muslim neighbors). This false claim allows the far-left and Islamists to group Israel with "Western imperialism. "
3. Islamist Influence – Many of the loudest voices supporting Palestine are influenced by Islamist ideology, which doesn't just oppose Israel—it also supports Turkish expansionism and Arab supremacy. That's why Turkey and Morocco can wave the Palestinian flag while being some of the biggest oppressors themselves.
If you people actually cared about "occupation" and "colonialism," you wouldn't ignore Turkey in Cyprus, Azerbaijan in Artsakh, Morocco in Western Sahara, and Turkey's treatment of Kurds, Assyrians, Greeks and Armenians. But you don't care. Because for you, it was never about justice, it was about hating Jews and pushing an anti-Western agenda.
Hahaha, I'm not surprised to see another one of your unhinged rants about Israel and people guilty of criticizing the Palestinian terrorist organizations in Gaza.
I'm not a fan of Netanyahu, I wrote it two times in the post you replied to so people would be able to see that I'm under no illusions that Netanyahu is a perfect leader. It's obvious that the Israelis and their leaders are increasingly adjusting to the dominant Middle Eastern culture under which minorities like Jews and Christians have suffered immensely.
I can't help but to notice that you fail to address my question regarding why the Jews in other MENA countries had to flee their homes and go to Israel?."You people" LOL, spoken like a good little bigot that you are. We understand what the "you people" means, it's "You" being the zionazis and evangelical christians against those who protest against your evilness. "You" vs. "Us". The same narrative used by "you people" to invade, assault, humiliate and massacre Iraqis, yes? You, people.
I have no issues condemning Turkey's assault on Armenia. And I have no issues condemning whatever discrimination was caused to the jews in the 40's or 50 sin other parts of the Middle East (even if it were the direct consequence of the establishment of Israel). Here's the thing, Mr. Act your shoo size, YOU can't condemn the wickedness of your zionazis which is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds and encapstulates your shamelessness. You zionazi's profess a moral superiority due to supposed injustices against you yet you brutalise and behave in far worse manner towards your victims.
You zionazis have literally stolen and continue to steal the lands of the Palestinians. You cannot condemn this can you? Land which continues to be stolen by blue eyed, blond supposed "semites" from Brooklyn with the natives thrown out of their homes. You align yourselves with massacring and brutalising (conveniently ignore the statistics that I presented earlier) genociders while indulging in logical and moral fallacies, such as "Iranians killing women for showing hair". That licenses your kind to massacre Palestinian Babies? What a sick perverse mind you possess.
The condemnation of Israel is for one reason alone: it's an evil, oppressive genocidal state. These are facts, not opinions. And if you condemn one belligerent state (Russia) you cannot get away with the selective ignoring of another contemporaneous belligerent state, Israel. That's why this is being flagged here, and no matter how much you try to cloak your hypocrisy in whataboutery fallacies you won't get away with it.
"You people" LOL, spoken like a good little bigot that you are. We understand what the "you people" means, it's "You" being the zionazis and evangelical christians against those who protest against your evilness. "You" vs. "Us". The same narrative used by "you people" to invade, assault, humiliate and massacre Iraqis, yes? You, people.
I have no issues condemning Turkey's assault on Armenia. And I have no issues condemning whatever discrimination was caused to the jews in the 40's or 50 sin other parts of the Middle East (even if it were the direct consequence of the establishment of Israel). Here's the thing, Mr. Act your shoo size, YOU can't condemn the wickedness of your zionazis which is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds and encapstulates your shamelessness. You zionazi's profess a moral superiority due to supposed injustices against you yet you brutalise and behave in far worse manner towards your victims.Please explain why we Christians and Jews should accept to be treated as second class citizens and face discrimination, Sharia laws and massacres in dictatorships all across the MENA region?
Israel is the Greatest and most Just country to ever have existed.
I'm extremely happy that your words and opinions have absolutely no impact whatsoever on the situation in Israel.
It's funny how you keep proving me right, you don't care about facts, human rights, genocides, colonialism as long as it's committed by the "right" people against the "wrong" people.
When I write "you people" I'm referring to you nazis, radical islamists, left wing extremists and ignorant SJWs. Its way too late for you to pretend that you're not a mentally unstable and deeply deranged and hateful person.
You call me a bigot because I believe in democracy, religious freedom, human rights and minorities must be protected even in the Middle East.
The women in Iran would have a lot more freedom in Israel, and sadly many Iranian women would still be alive today if they had been lucky enough to live in Israel.
But what else to expect from the irish, terrorism is deeply rooted in your culture. We should never have allowed Ireland to be a part of the EU.
I will be forever grateful to those who fought against Nazi Germany, the Ottoman Empire, isis, russia, irgc, hezbollah, hamas and Islamic Jihad. Eight different shades of evil.
To lose is not an option.
Your whole stance is built on hate against Jews and Israelis, you don't have the tools nor desire to actually understand the MENA region. Jews had to live as second class citizens and faced multiple genocides way before the war in 1948. Your whole argumentation is built on a highly flawed understanding of history and the MENA culture. And the fact that you're actively trying to defend these massacres against Jews is disgusting and tells me all I need to know about you.
It shouldn't be morally controversial to advocate for a Jewish, or Christian, state to exist in the Middle East where dictatorships without human rights (especially for women and religious minorities) is way too common.
You'the rather see a Palestinian dictatorship without human rights where Christians and Jews are persecuted and subjected to genocide than the Israeli democracy with true freedom for all people.
It's also interesting to see how you couldn't care less when palestinians are murdered by hamas and Islamic Jihad. You truly are a hypocrite.
The Middle East doesn't need another dictatorship.
You keep crying about Israel while in reality the palestinians have no desire to create a democratic state with human rights for all people regardless of gender and religion. The palestinians are literally celebrating terrorists and rewarding them for murdering children. How can you fail to condemn the evil genocidal palestinian movement?
What is that you support so much about the palestinians? The indoctrination of little palestinian children to become terrorists? Or is it the rapes? The kidnappings? The genocide of the 7th October?
Here's the deal, you're the poster child of whataboutism and cherry picking. Israel is the poster child of human rights and democracy in the Middle East.
If you truly want to compare the russian aggression to another country it would be turkey but yet you keep crying about Israel.
Turkey is an artificial state built on genocides on other people's lands. The only difference between Nazi Germany and turkey is that Nazi Germany doesn't exist today.
Ukraine has a lot more in common with the Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks than the palestinians.
But please explain why Christians and Jews should accept to be treated as second class citizens in dictatorships all across the MENA region?
Israel may not be perfect, but the alternative is inhumane and a disgrace to humanity.
"You people" LOL, .Word to the wise. Shoobree et al are Hasbara trols, paid to engage you in endless disputes and dead ends. Not worth engaging with. Most likely a low level hasbara trol, learning the ropes here before being promoted to more prominwet sites. There is a vast literature on these hirelings.
Word to the wise. Shoobree et al are Hasbara trols, paid to engage you in endless disputes and dead ends. Not worth engaging with. Most likely a low level hasbara trol, learning the ropes here before being promoted to more prominwet sites. There is a vast literature on these hirelings.
This is an over 18 site, Go away.
It's heartbreaking to see the evil that's attacking Ukraine and murdering Ukrainian children.
Little putin is an extremely evil war criminal and horrendously bad and corrupt old man.
Putin is not fit to be the leader of russia, he is mentally weak (putin lost 300 billion dollars at the start of the war) and he has a distorted view of reality. How else can you explain the horrendous photos of him without a shirt with his flabby belly and chips tits out for the world to laugh at? I would be embarrassed if I looked liked that and the whole world saw it.
Little putin should be way too old, fat and ugly to pose for those kind of pictures like he's a hot slutty college girl gone wild on Spring Break.I absolutely love that you're still crying over my post about Putin and his topless photos.
Aren't you too old to idolize an old attention working girl like Putin?
Man up for a second, stop being a vatnik and admit the obvious, Putin is embarrassing himself and Russia by posing for topless photos like a girl on Spring Break.
Please explain why we Christians and Jews should accept to be treated as second class citizens and face discrimination, Sharia laws and massacres in dictatorships all across the MENA region?
Israel is the Greatest and most Just country to ever have existed.
I'm extremely happy that your words and opinions have absolutely no impact whatsoever on the situation in Israel.
It's funny how you keep proving me right, you don't care about facts, human rights, genocides, colonialism as long as it's committed by the "right" people against the "wrong" people.
When I write "you people" I'm referring to you nazis, radical islamists, left wing extremists and ignorant SJWs. Its way too late for you to pretend that you're not a mentally unstable and deeply deranged and hateful person.
You call me a bigot because I believe in democracy, religious freedom, human rights and minorities must be protected even in the Middle East.
The women in Iran would have a lot more freedom in Israel, and sadly many Iranian women would still be alive today if they had been lucky enough to live in Israel.
But what else to expect from the irish, terrorism is deeply rooted in your culture. We should never have allowed Ireland to be a part of the EU.
I will be forever grateful to those who fought against Nazi Germany, the Ottoman Empire, isis, russia, irgc, hezbollah, hamas and Islamic Jihad. Eight different shades of evil.
To lose is not an option.
Your whole stance is built on hate against Jews and Israelis, you don't have the tools nor desire to actually understand the MENA region. Jews had to live as second class citizens and faced multiple genocides way before the war in 1948. Your whole argumentation is built on a highly flawed understanding of history and the MENA culture. And the fact that you're actively trying to defend these massacres against Jews is disgusting and tells me all I need to know about you.
It shouldn't be morally controversial to advocate for a Jewish, or Christian, state to exist in the Middle East where dictatorships without human rights (especially for women and religious minorities) is way too common.
You'the rather see a Palestinian dictatorship without human rights where Christians and Jews are persecuted and subjected to genocide than the Israeli democracy with true freedom for all people.
It's also interesting to see how you couldn't care less when palestinians are murdered by hamas and Islamic Jihad. You truly are a hypocrite.
The Middle East doesn't need another dictatorship.
You keep crying about Israel while in reality the palestinians have no desire to create a democratic state with human rights for all people regardless of gender and religion. The palestinians are literally celebrating terrorists and rewarding them for murdering children. How can you fail to condemn the evil genocidal palestinian movement?
What is that you support so much about the palestinians? The indoctrination of little palestinian children to become terrorists? Or is it the rapes? The kidnappings? The genocide of the 7th October?
Here's the deal, you're the poster child of whataboutism and cherry picking. Israel is the poster child of human rights and democracy in the Middle East.
If you truly want to compare the russian aggression to another country it would be turkey but yet you keep crying about Israel.
Turkey is an artificial state built on genocides on other people's lands. The only difference between Nazi Germany and turkey is that Nazi Germany doesn't exist today.
Ukraine has a lot more in common with the Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks than the palestinians.
But please explain why Christians and Jews should accept to be treated as second class citizens in dictatorships all across the MENA region?
Israel may not be perfect, but the alternative is inhumane and a disgrace to humanity.Israel is the Greatest and most Just country to ever have existed.
This sick puke of a comment being what I thought was the most rotten thing I have heard from a fool like you, was eclipsed by this:
<< what else to expect from the irish, terrorism is deeply rooted in your culture. .
A cowardly dog like you smears the Irish anonymously and wouldn't do so in real life.
I have been on marches and I have said to the face of zionists what I think of them. I have stood shoulder shoulder with jews. Some of them orthodox- in these marches on the condemnation of Zion evilness. You insult Ireland and Irish people like the lowly coward that you are online, Shoebrain. In another age, it were no doubt your forefathers that oppressed the Irish and now you egest your hate.
Your so called greatest country that ever existed was BORN in terrorism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_terrorism
And this is why the rightful minded world despises you zionists: your evil hypocrisy which is used to nefariously further your goals of brutalisation and the massacre and exporpriation of the Palestinians by you evil zionists. So evil, that even the unconscionable right wing ardent zion supporting media, the Telegraph, AKA The Jerusalem Post, is disturbed by your perverseness:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/04/15/israeli-settlers-emboldened-by-trump-lay-siege-to-west-bank/
"It's not morally controversial to advocate for a Jewish, or Christian, state "? Well, it is when it is built on stolen land and on greater and greater theft and when the residents of that land are massacred in their 10's of thousands so that the evildoer's like you can get the resources and land. You know what that is, zionist? That's Lebansraum. The only difference between Nazi Germany and Israhell is that Nazi Germany doesn't exist today.
Keep massacring innocent babies, women and children, monster. Karma has a way of righting the wrongs of your kind. The brutality and wickedness of your Zionazis will be your downfall in 1 year, 10 years or a 100 years. Just as it was for your fellow nazis- and there won't be anyone left this time to shed tears for you and your ilk.
Word to the wise. Shoobree et al are Hasbara trols, paid to engage you in endless disputes and dead ends. Not worth engaging with. Most likely a low level hasbara trol, learning the ropes here before being promoted to more prominwet sites. There is a vast literature on these hirelings.You're probably right. It is hard to not rise to the bait of these evil zio's. They control the media, and the apparatus of the Govt and the economy- and they are flexing their muscle. So far this medium is one of the few that doesn't let these tyrants get away with their tyranny.
Newton York
04-16-25, 01:30
What's up with all this palestine middle east talk in the Ukraine forum? Me no likey. But since we're on that subject, then I do have a lifelong fantasy fetish bucket list type thing. I've always wanted to fuck a hijab babe. Like she's all in the hijab gear, pretending to be all demure and stuff, but deep down inside she's a super skank. Then she'd get completely naked except the head covering, but not the full face only see the eyes ninja type, more like the one's you see in Indonesia, type. But with a Mia Khalifa look, big titties and all that. Yeah. Man, I'd pay real money to fuck that. That's my dream. Then I'd come all over her face, while she still has the hijab on. That would be so awesome! It'd be even better if I can fuck her on a Friday. IYKYK.
Better yet, if she was like an Uzbek type, or maybe a more blondish Lebanese type. The whole forbidden fruit thing, you know?
So far this medium is one of the few that doesn't let these tyrants get away with their tyranny.I don't understand this. What medium? The internet? ISG? How is the "medium" stopping tyranny?
I have sometimes wondered whether I am too hard on you, SubCmdr, but two picoseconds later I realize that no, I am not, you are truly an imbecile.Asking as an imbecile. Is is possible to help a ISG brother out. Please educate as to the meaning of your statement.
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