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What's up with all this palestine middle east talk in the Ukraine forum? Me no likey. But since we're on that subject, then I do have a lifelong fantasy fetish bucket list type thing. I've always wanted to fuck a hijab babe. Like she's all in the hijab gear, pretending to be all demure and stuff, but deep down inside she's a super skank. Then she'd get completely naked except the head covering, but not the full face only see the eyes ninja type, more like the one's you see in Indonesia, type. But with a Mia Khalifa look, big titties and all that. Yeah. Man, I'd pay real money to fuck that. That's my dream. Then I'd come all over her face, while she still has the hijab on. That would be so awesome! It'd be even better if I can fuck her on a Friday. IYKYK.
Better yet, if she was like an Uzbek type, or maybe a more blondish Lebanese type. The whole forbidden fruit thing, you know?LOL, I don't know, some people are just obsessed about the Israel-Palestine conflict. It's because they don't know anything else and have been brainwashed.
I think your bucket list thing is way more interesting as I share your fetish.
The closest I've come to achieve this fetish is with a Palestinian girl that used to wear a hijab when she visited the mosque during Ramadan.
Israel is the Greatest and most Just country to ever have existed.
This sick puke of a comment being what I thought was the most rotten thing I have heard from a fool like you, was eclipsed by this:
<< what else to expect from the irish, terrorism is deeply rooted in your culture. .
A cowardly dog like you smears the Irish anonymously and wouldn't do so in real life.
I have been on marches and I have said to the face of zionists what I think of them. I have stood shoulder shoulder with jews. Some of them orthodox- in these marches on the condemnation of Zion evilness. You insult Ireland and Irish people like the lowly coward that you are online, Shoebrain. In another age, it were no doubt your forefathers that oppressed the Irish and now you egest your hate.
Your so called greatest country that ever existed was BORN in terrorism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_terrorism
And this is why the rightful minded world despises you zionists: your evil hypocrisy which is used to nefariously further your goals of brutalisation and the massacre and exporpriation of the Palestinians by you evil zionists. So evil, that even the unconscionable right wing ardent zion supporting media, the Telegraph, AKA The Jerusalem Post, is disturbed by your perverseness:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/04/15/israeli-settlers-emboldened-by-trump-lay-siege-to-west-bank/
"It's not morally controversial to advocate for a Jewish, or Christian, state "? Well, it is when it is built on stolen land and on greater and greater theft and when the residents of that land are massacred in their 10's of thousands so that the evildoer's like you can get the resources and land. You know what that is, zionist? That's Lebansraum. The only difference between Nazi Germany and Israhell is that Nazi Germany doesn't exist today.
Keep massacring innocent babies, women and children, monster. Karma has a way of righting the wrongs of your kind. The brutality and wickedness of your Zionazis will be your downfall in 1 year, 10 years or a 100 years. Just as it was for your fellow nazis- and there won't be anyone left this time to shed tears for you and your ilk.The hypocrisy is your obsession and hatred against Israel when you don't spew any of that hate against turkey, and they murdered over two million Christians*.
It's embarrassing to see your unwillingness to criticize the radical palestinians no matter what. *.
The palestinian terrorists murdered, raped and kidnapped more than a thousand Israelis in one day and you're pretending that the Palestinians are the good guys. *.
I'm sorry but the hypocrisy is all yours.
Damn, you can't even see the most obvious.
Let me start by saying that the rise of Israel is extremely beautiful and just. The second coming of Israel is a rare example of how Karma actually can come back to bite some very bad people.
I know history, I understand why Israel had to be revived. *.
My question to you is: how can you deny Jews and Christians their human rights, forcing them to live in fear as second-class citizens, persecuted and oppressed?
What we need now is a Christian state in the Middle East. *.
Through centuries Palestinian terrorists kept massacring innocent Israeli babies, women and children. But Israel has a way of righting the wrongs of your kind. The brutality and wickedness of you Palestinian nazi-islamic terrorists is your downfall. I love how you nazi-islamic terrorists keep speaking about the "downfall of Israel" when it's becoming increasingly clear that your downfall is taking place right now in front of our very eyes. Just as it was for your fellow nazis in Germany and Islamist terrorists in Raqqa. *.
Can you clarify what you meant with this quote: "There won't be anyone left this time to shed tears for you and your ilk. ".
Did you read that in Mein Kampf or was it something you heard in a speech?
The 7th October 2023 will forever mark the beginning of the end of your atrocities against peaceful civilians.
I still don't get why you insist on hating Israel when Israel created an oasis of peace and freedom in a desert of terrorism, radical islam, oppression and persecution of females and religious minorities.
You have*.
It's always the same procedure, the Palestinians (and other Nazi-Islamic terrorists) starts a war against Israel and are boasting about how they are going to kill all the Jews and when reality sets in you start to cry about how "evil" Israel is because they wouldn't let you rape and murder all the Israelis.
The palestinians aren't interested in peace.
You're a hypocrite, you believe that Palestine should be for Arabs only but you have no problem with Arabs migrating to Europe and Australia.
We do not murder Arabs, we give them citizenship, social welfare and free education and health care.
It's nauseating to see your hypocrisy and willingness to accept the ideology of ISIS.
The war against Israel is not only about land, it's about religion. It's a religious war, Jihad, where people are considered pawns to be sacrificed at any time in any number. *.
And that's one of the key issues, palestine will never be free if it's governed by an ISIS look alike.
Palestinians are murdered by hamas and you don't care. Young palestinians are arrested for having a coffe with a person of the opposite sex.
What more do you want from me? Do you want me to defend Kim Jong Un, North Korea and pretend as if the North Koreans are "free"?
Everyone knows the North Korean people would be better off with a different government so why is it so controversial to say the same about Hamas, and the other extremist terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank?
QUOTE=Newton York; What's up with all this palestine middle east talk in the Ukraine forum? Me no likey. But since we're on that subject, then I do have a lifelong fantasy fetish bucket list type thing. I've always wanted to fuck a hijab babe. Like she's all in the hijab gear, pretending to be all demure and stuff, but deep down inside she's a super skank. Then she'd get completely naked except the head covering, but not the full face only see the eyes ninja type, more like the one's you see in Indonesia, type. But with a Mia Khalifa look, big titties and all that. Yeah. Man, I'd pay real money to fuck that. That's my dream. Then I'd come all over her face, while she still has the hijab on. That would be so awesome! It'd be even better if I can fuck her on a.
Friday. IYKYK.
Better yet, if she was like an Uzbek type, or maybe a more blondish Lebanese type. The whole forbidden fruit thing, you know?/ QUOTE.
For Your Eyes only, 2 Forbidden Fruits, But Not on a Friday, LOL.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm_kmgQ24QE
Jewish women wearing veils.
QUOTE=Newton York; What's up with all this palestine middle east talk in the Ukraine forum? Me no likey. But since we're on that subject, then I do have a lifelong fantasy fetish bucket list type thing. I've always wanted to fuck a hijab babe. Like she's all in the hijab gear, pretending to be all demure and stuff, but deep down inside she's a super skank. Then she'd get completely naked except the head covering, but not the full face only see the eyes ninja type, more like the one's you see in Indonesia, type. But with a Mia Khalifa look, big titties and all that. Yeah. Man, I'd pay real money to fuck that. That's my dream. Then I'd come all over her face, while she still has the hijab on. That would be so awesome! It'd be even better if I can fuck her on a.
Friday. IYKYK.
Better yet, if she was like an Uzbek type, or maybe a more blondish Lebanese type. The whole forbidden fruit thing, you know?/ QUOTE.
For Your Eyes only, 2 Forbidden Fruits, But Not on a Friday, LOL.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm_kmgQ24QE
Jewish women wearing veils.
The Rada has voted to extend Martial Law for 90 days. This means no elections and continuation of mobilization.
The Rada can at any time vote again to suspend Martial Law. Elections can't be held during ML as per the country's constitution as well as free debate and activity of opposition parties can't be sustained.
Continuation of mobilization means no ceasefire as it's a condition by Russia to implement one.
Presidential elections can be held as early as 60 days after the lift of ML, and elections to Rada as early as 90 days. This is the math for 2025.
The hypocrisy is your obsession and hatred against Israel when you don't spew any of that hate against turkey, and they murdered over two million Christians*.
It's embarrassing to see your unwillingness to criticize the radical palestinians no matter what. *.
The palestinian terrorists murdered, raped and kidnapped more than a thousand Israelis in one day and you're pretending that the Palestinians are the good guys. *.
I'm sorry but the hypocrisy is all yours.
Damn, you can't even see the most obvious.
Let me start by saying that the rise of Israel is extremely beautiful and just. The second coming of Israel is a rare example of how Karma actually can come back to bite some very bad people.
I know history, I understand why Israel had to be revived. *.
My question to you is: how can you deny Jews and Christians their human rights, forcing them to live in fear as second-class citizens, persecuted and oppressed?
What we need now is a Christian state in the Middle East. *.
Through centuries Palestinian terrorists kept massacring innocent Israeli babies, women and children. But Israel has a way of righting the wrongs of your kind. The brutality and wickedness of you Palestinian nazi-islamic terrorists is your downfall. I love how you nazi-islamic terrorists keep speaking about the "downfall of Israel" when it's becoming increasingly clear that your downfall is taking place right now in front of our very eyes. Just as it was for your fellow nazis in Germany and Islamist terrorists in Raqqa. *.
Can you clarify what you meant with this quote: "There won't be anyone left this time to shed tears for you and your ilk. ".
Did you read that in Mein Kampf or was it something you heard in a speech?
The 7th October 2023 will forever mark the beginning of the end of your atrocities against peaceful civilians.
I still don't get why you insist on hating Israel when Israel created an oasis of peace and freedom in a desert of terrorism, radical islam, oppression and persecution of females and religious minorities.
You have*.
It's always the same procedure, the Palestinians (and other Nazi-Islamic terrorists) starts a war against Israel and are boasting about how they are going to kill all the Jews and when reality sets in you start to cry about how "evil" Israel is because they wouldn't let you rape and murder all the Israelis.
The palestinians aren't interested in peace.
You're a hypocrite, you believe that Palestine should be for Arabs only but you have no problem with Arabs migrating to Europe and Australia.
We do not murder Arabs, we give them citizenship, social welfare and free education and health care.
It's nauseating to see your hypocrisy and willingness to accept the ideology of ISIS.
The war against Israel is not only about land, it's about religion. It's a religious war, Jihad, where people are considered pawns to be sacrificed at any time in any number. *.
And that's one of the key issues, palestine will never be free if it's governed by an ISIS look alike.
Palestinians are murdered by hamas and you don't care. Young palestinians are arrested for having a coffe with a person of the opposite sex.
What more do you want from me? Do you want me to defend Kim Jong Un, North Korea and pretend as if the North Koreans are "free"?
Everyone knows the North Korean people would be better off with a different government so why is it so controversial to say the same about Hamas, and the other extremist terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank?I posted a long response to your contemptible rant, zionist, which appears not to be posted yet, but as an addendum, read this and weep you lying zionist:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/18/jerusalem-christians-easter-israeli-crackdown-church-holy-sepulchre
I have seen with my own eyes how the Christians are spat at by the Israeli jews and cursed in a video in fact. So much for your "protection" of christians. Happy Easter.
Israel is an evil colony which is the tail that wags the American dog and warps the minds of evildoers like you to massacre and brutalise the Palestinians and encroach upon and steal their lands. The lies manifest in your post above are manifest in the Zionist owned media too, and the truth suppressed by jailing or deporting or punishing people for speaking the truth, and I have posted the facts which you conveniently ignored about how the genesis of Israel was terrorism, the real terrorists are the Israelis. You are merely a willing, mindless zionazi underling.
Bennett tried to negotiate a ceasefire or peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia in March of 2022. The two sides were very close. Here's the interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9tLDeWBzs
The part about Russia starts 2:20 (2 hours and 20 minutes) into the video and goes onto the 3 hour point. Remember that Israel depends on the USA for military, economic and moral support, and so Bennett isn't going to bite the hand that feeds it. Still the interview is eye opening. Here's a summary.
The USA believed there was no chance peace could be negotiated. The interviewer asks Bennett, "Maybe they (the USA) didn't want you to succeed?" Bennett: No response.
Bennett got Putin to agree to end his demand for denazification, which potentially would have involved killing Zelensky. Putin explicitly agreed than Zelensky would not be killed. Putin also agreed that Ukraine would not be required to disarm.
Zelensky agreed that Ukraine would not join NATO. The war broke out because Ukraine demanded to join NATO. So getting Zelensky to renounce this demand or goal was a big deal.
Earlier Ukraine had demanded a security guarantee, from France, the USA and Britain. Russia would have viewed such a guarantee the same as Ukraine joining NATO. It was a deal breaker.
Bennett told Zelensky, do you really think the USA is going to guarantee your security, say, 7 years from now? After it left Afghanistan with its tail between its legs? He encouraged Zelensky to look at Israel. It has a strong, independent military and can protect itself. Ukraine can do the same. Forget about the guarantees and build a strong military. As a result of Bennett's persuasion, Zelensky was willing to give up a security guarantee.
So there was a breakthrough. Both sides accepted this.
Then Bucha happened. (Details of the deaths of civilians in Bucha hit social media.) "I said it's over. I (still) saw solutions in that regard, that I don't want to go into. They're primarily related to postponing the argument by 99 years. "(In other words, he wasn't ready to give up.).
Bennett gave peace negotiations a 50% chance of success. Both sides very much wanted a ceasefire. Putin gave up denazification and Ukrainian disarmament. He did not want to continue at all costs. Yes, people can put on an act of course. But Bennett didn't think he was. And Zelensky had renounced joining NATO.
Boris Johnson adopted the aggressive line. (Boris wanted the war to continue.) The other point of view is that both sides lose in a war. Macron and Scholz were of (that kind of) more pragmatic view. Biden was in between.
There was a decision by the West to keep striking Putin, to take the more aggressive approach.
Everything I did was coordinated down to the last detail with the USA, France, Germany. They blocked it. I thought they were wrong. In retrospect though it's too soon to know. The downside of continuing the war was that there would be more Ukrainian and Russian casualties. This was a huge blow to Ukraine. Infrastructure was destroyed. There will have to be a Marshall Plan to rebuild it. Energy costs went up. Food exports to the Middle East and Africa were affected for a time. On the other hand, Biden created an alliance, that can reflect on other areas, like China and Taiwan. (In other words, he's saying western support for Ukraine may serve as a warning to other countries not to engage in something similar, like a Chinese takeover of Taiwan.).
There was a good chance of reaching a ceasefire if they (western powers) had not curbed it. But I'm not claiming it (blocking a ceasefire) was the wrong thing. In real time I thought the right thing was a ceasefire. Now I can't say. Maybe a ceasefire would have conveyed the wrong message to other countries. (Tiny's note: Is Bennett sincere, or is his statement colored by Israel's dependence on the USA?)
At the interview below:
"Denazification" of Ukraine should be understood as "prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements" and the need to "get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it," Putin explained in an interview with Carlson. The President noted that this problem was discussed during the talks in Istanbul in the spring of 2022, an agreement was even reached to ban the cultivation of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, but Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process.
Vladimir Putin, in an interview with Tucker Carlson, at the request of the American journalist, explained the meaning of the word "denazification" - this, according to him, is "the prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements. " The transcript of their conversation was published on the Kremlin website. The president repeated the thesis that Russia has not yet achieved the goals of the "military special operation"* in Ukraine.
Putin also explained the reasons why, in his opinion, denazification was necessary. The head of state noted that after the start of World War II, part of the "nationalistically minded elite" began collaborating with Adolf Hitler because they thought that he would "bring them freedom. " And although the shoots of nationalism are now being "crushed" in many countries, this is not happening in Ukraine: there, according to Putin, people who "destroyed Poles, Jews and Russians" were made into national heroes. "We need to get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it. That is what denazification is. That is what we mean by it," the head of state emphasized.
Putin noted that denazification was one of the issues discussed during the negotiations in February-March 2022. According to him, during these negotiations an agreement was reached that "neo-Nazism will not be cultivated in Ukraine", it was to be prohibited at the legislative level. But as a result, Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process, Ukraine "threw out all these agreements and accepted the instructions of Western countries under its salute", Putin concluded.
At the end of 2023, during a direct line and a large press conference, Putin said that peace in Ukraine would come after Russia achieved the goals of the "special operation". "These goals do not change", we are talking about denazification, demilitarization of Ukraine and its neutral status, Putin emphasized. He recalled that in 2022, Ukraine insisted during peace talks with Russia that there was "no fascism" in the country. "Well, how could there not be? When the national hero there is not just a nationalist, but a Nazi. Bandera, he is elevated to the rank of a national hero," he said on this matter. And he recalled that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, during a visit to Canada, stood up and greeted the former soldier of the SS Galicia Division, 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka, who, according to Putin, "directly participated in the extermination of 1. 5 million Jews, Russians and Poles in Ukraine. " "Therefore, the issue of denazification is relevant," the president concluded.
After the start of the "special operation", the parties held several rounds of negotiations: the first three were held in Belarus in late February and early March, and the fourth on March 29,2022 in Istanbul. After that, the negotiation process was frozen. On May 14,2022, Putin said that the negotiation process was "effectively" suspended "by Kiev, which shows no interest in serious and constructive dialogue. " In September 2022, the President of Ukraine signed a decree that "states the impossibility of holding negotiations with the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin. ".
Putin gave an interview to Carlson on February 6. It was published at about 2:00 Moscow time on February 9 on the journalist's website. In the morning, as promised by the Russian president's press secretary Dmitry Peskov, it appeared on the Kremlin website, including in Russian.
The Rada has voted to extend Martial Law for 90 days. This means no elections and continuation of mobilization.
The Rada can at any time vote again to suspend Martial Law. Elections can't be held during ML as per the country's constitution as well as free debate and activity of opposition parties can't be sustained.
Continuation of mobilization means no ceasefire as it's a condition by Russia to implement one.
Presidential elections can be held as early as 60 days after the lift of ML, and elections to Rada as early as 90 days. This is the math for 2025.Ukrainians support Zelensky who has balls to resist to criminal Putin and senile stupid Trump. It would be easier for Putin, if no more Zelensky.
At the interview below:
"Denazification" of Ukraine should be understood as "prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements" and the need to "get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it," Putin explained in an interview with Carlson. The President noted that this problem was discussed during the talks in Istanbul in the spring of 2022, an agreement was even reached to ban the cultivation of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, but Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process.
Vladimir Putin, in an interview with Tucker Carlson, at the request of the American journalist, explained the meaning of the word "denazification" - this, according to him, is "the prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements. " The transcript of their conversation was published on the Kremlin website. The president repeated the thesis that Russia has not yet achieved the goals of the "military special operation"* in Ukraine...I'm sorry but basically nothing you wrote is true.
Putin never wanted a ceasefire.
There's a reason why the war never ends from the Russian side.
Putin never gave up his demands when it comes to his desire to dictate Ukrainian politics and the disarmament to Ukraine to the degree where they won't be able to defend their country.
It's obvious that Ukraine need concrete security guarantees and any deal without it is a carte blanche for Putin to continue his war crimes in Ukraine.
At the interview below:
"Denazification" of Ukraine should be understood as "prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements" and the need to "get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it," Putin explained in an interview with Carlson. The President noted that this problem was discussed during the talks in Istanbul in the spring of 2022, an agreement was even reached to ban the cultivation of neo-Nazism in Ukraine, but Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process.
Vladimir Putin, in an interview with Tucker Carlson, at the request of the American journalist, explained the meaning of the word "denazification" - this, according to him, is "the prohibition of all neo-Nazi movements. " The transcript of their conversation was published on the Kremlin website. The president repeated the thesis that Russia has not yet achieved the goals of the "military special operation"* in Ukraine.
Putin also explained the reasons why, in his opinion, denazification was necessary. The head of state noted that after the start of World War II, part of the "nationalistically minded elite" began collaborating with Adolf Hitler because they thought that he would "bring them freedom. " And although the shoots of nationalism are now being "crushed" in many countries, this is not happening in Ukraine: there, according to Putin, people who "destroyed Poles, Jews and Russians" were made into national heroes. "We need to get rid of those people who leave this theory and practice in life and try to preserve it. That is what denazification is. That is what we mean by it," the head of state emphasized.
Putin noted that denazification was one of the issues discussed during the negotiations in February-March 2022. According to him, during these negotiations an agreement was reached that "neo-Nazism will not be cultivated in Ukraine", it was to be prohibited at the legislative level. But as a result, Kyiv withdrew from the negotiation process, Ukraine "threw out all these agreements and accepted the instructions of Western countries under its salute", Putin concluded.
At the end of 2023, during a direct line and a large press conference, Putin said that peace in Ukraine would come after Russia achieved the goals of the "special operation". "These goals do not change", we are talking about denazification, demilitarization of Ukraine and its neutral status, Putin emphasized. He recalled that in 2022, Ukraine insisted during peace talks with Russia that there was "no fascism" in the country. "Well, how could there not be? When the national hero there is not just a nationalist, but a Nazi. Bandera, he is elevated to the rank of a national hero," he said on this matter. And he recalled that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, during a visit to Canada, stood up and greeted the former soldier of the SS Galicia Division, 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka, who, according to Putin, "directly participated in the extermination of 1. 5 million Jews, Russians and Poles in Ukraine. " "Therefore, the issue of denazification is relevant," the president concluded.
After the start of the "special operation", the parties held several rounds of negotiations: the first three were held in Belarus in late February and early March, and the fourth on March 29,2022 in Istanbul. After that, the negotiation process was frozen. On May 14,2022, Putin said that the negotiation process was "effectively" suspended "by Kiev, which shows no interest in serious and constructive dialogue. " In September 2022, the President of Ukraine signed a decree that "states the impossibility of holding negotiations with the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin. ".
Putin gave an interview to Carlson on February 6. It was published at about 2:00 Moscow time on February 9 on the journalist's website. In the morning, as promised by the Russian president's press secretary Dmitry Peskov, it appeared on the Kremlin website, including in Russian.Thanks for the explanation of denazification Questner. It makes a lot more sense than the Israeli Prime Minister's.
In the course of the interview, the PM mentioned going to Germany, to visit Olaf Scholz. Bennett was conducting shuttle diplomacy. He said he made a vow to never visit Germany, because of the atrocities committed by the Nazis on Jews during World War II. But he made an exception for the cause of peace.
From memory (I haven't gone back and listened to the audio again), Bennett said something like "the only way to deal with a Nazi of course is to kill him. " That would reflect his abhorrence and anger, at what the Nazis inflicted on Jews and others. Said another way, "The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi." I suspect he equated denazification with killing "Nazis" in the Ukrainian leadership based on his prejudices, not on what Putin told him.
And before one of our fellow board members jumps down my throat, I'm not calling Zelensky a Nazi.
Thanks for the explanation of denazification Questner. It makes a lot more sense than the Israeli Prime Minister's.
In the course of the interview, the PM mentioned going to Germany, to visit Olaf Scholz. Bennett was conducting shuttle diplomacy. He said he made a vow to never visit Germany, because of the atrocities committed by the Nazis on Jews during World War II. But he made an exception for the cause of peace.
From memory (I haven't gone back and listened to the audio again), Bennett said something like "the only way to deal with a Nazi of course is to kill him. " That would reflect his abhorrence and anger, at what the Nazis inflicted on Jews and others. Said another way, "The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi." I suspect he equated denazification with killing "Nazis" in the Ukrainian leadership based on his prejudices, not on what Putin told him.
And before one of our fellow board members jumps down my throat, I'm not calling Zelensky a Nazi.Like Yehud Barak Bennett might be lucky in his military service but not so skillful as a politician. His revelation of buying a book and seeking advice from National Security Council on the atrocities of the WWII says it all about him. He did the right thing with respect to Israelis and Jews in Ukraine however did not admit he was played in the dark as 'more serious intermediary'.
The interview translation does not follow exactly the role of Biden as presented by Bennett. Bennett basically says Biden was in support of the continuation of the war.
On Bucha: Until Ukrainian side comes with names of the civilians who lost their lives under the circumstances as they were described I would continue to see it as staged propaganda operation.
There were two types of civilian deaths all very tragic: territorial defence and collateral losses. Personally I did my inquiry on the morgues records with names, addresses and ages and added them into a geo location map.
There are also speculations about the longevity of Mr. Zelensky but I can't verify them. He did and said publicly enough to be sure he is gone.
Any association with the nazi collaborators and their ideas and legacy is beyond the pale. Just to give you a very minor hint in comparison: How would you feel if the next US administration topples the monuments on the Arlington Cemetery and renames the streets around World Trade Center in NY in memory of the binladen crew?
Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.
I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.
Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.
Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.
I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.
Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.You are an idiot.
Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.
I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.
Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.One of the opinions is that the US wants to save face by walking away. The Ukrainian project that benefited the MIC and LNG and harmed absolutely everybody and everything else is now failing and its time to fold. Every sane stakeholder would prefer to end the hostilities. Trump is right when he says this war would not have happened should he be the POTUS. Trump would never have armed, financed and charged the AFU into the conflict. Just recently Ukraine failed to reach a deal with holders of $2. 6 billion in debt during talks in Washington this week. If no agreement is reached, the country faces default. Without financial aid and military support from the US Ukraine will eventually face a collapse even if it takes 1 to 2 years.
Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.
I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.
Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.Ukrainians, even those who didn t vote for him, support Zelensky who has balls to resist versus criminal dictator Putin who killed so many Russians with his personnal war, and stupid shameful robber Trump who just want to rob Ukraine. All my support to Ukrainians who were already stolen Crimea which did belong to Ukraine in 1991 , when Putin was nothing in KGB at this time.
One of the opinions is that the US wants to save face by walking away. The Ukrainian project that benefited the MIC and LNG and harmed absolutely everybody and everything else is now failing and its time to fold. Every sane stakeholder would prefer to end the hostilities. Trump is right when he says this war would not have happened should he be the POTUS. Trump would never have armed, financed and charged the AFU into the conflict. Just recently Ukraine failed to reach a deal with holders of $2. 6 billion in debt during talks in Washington this week. If no agreement is reached, the country faces default. Without financial aid and military support from the US Ukraine will eventually face a collapse even if it takes 1 to 2 years.Trump is just so senile, when his administration refused in 2018, only 7 years ago, Crimea robbery by Putin, but his too old neurons forgot. Old senile shameful for USA.
One of the opinions is that the US wants to save face by walking away. The Ukrainian project that benefited the MIC and LNG and harmed absolutely everybody and everything else is now failing and its time to fold. Every sane stakeholder would prefer to end the hostilities. Trump is right when he says this war would not have happened should he be the POTUS. Trump would never have armed, financed and charged the AFU into the conflict. Just recently Ukraine failed to reach a deal with holders of $2. 6 billion in debt during talks in Washington this week. If no agreement is reached, the country faces default. Without financial aid and military support from the US Ukraine will eventually face a collapse even if it takes 1 to 2 years.It's important to understand that putin is a war dictator. During putins dictatorship he has steadily had at least one war ongoing. There's no hope of russia living in peace during putins dictatorship.
I'm extremely thankful that Biden was the president and not the corrupt Donald trump who's most likely controlled by Russia.
Not only would putin have started the war against Ukraine, Russia would have received help from trump.
There's no end in sight to this war. Putin may short terms victories thanks to his control over trump; but they won't last.
Trump's living on borrowed time just like putin and Russia.
Putin isn't interested in peace and he's even less interested in having hundreds of thousands soldiers back in russia. If the war in Ukraine ends putin will just start a new one.
Looks like Trump is ready to walk away from this whole mess created by America itself. The dictator with no cards Zelensky has rejected the American peace proposal, the Russians seem to be ok with it.
I hope Trump makes good on his threat and walks away. This should mean no aid or support to Ukraine. IF that happens, expect a collapse of the Ukrainian front lines in the future. And IF that happens, expect the Russians to not just take 4 Oblasts (including Crimea) but 4 more.
Zelensky is a curse for Ukraine.You mean the mess created by russia and their dictator Vladimir putin.
Putin must have at least one active war during his bloody dictatorship.
Putins love for war is a curse for russia and all of Europe to be completely honest.
Only if putin loses his war in Ukraine can russia win. Regular russians and the russian economy will continue to suffer even (especially) if their dictator achieves his goals in Ukraine.
Did you ever consider Putin should pay a price for his atrocities? Or would you just prefer to be on good business terms with any warlord in the workd?
You are an idiot.And you are Slim Pickens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y
Pickens, also known as Major Kong, is the guy in the cowboy hat riding the bomb. Not to give away the plot but he's smack dab over Mother Russia and about to set off a bomb that leads to nuclear Armageddon.
I've decided you're a better candidate for the Slim Pickens award than Paulie97. Sorry Paulie.
Like Yehud Barak Bennett might be lucky in his military service but not so skillful as a politician. His revelation of buying a book and seeking advice from National Security Council on the atrocities of the WWII says it all about him. He did the right thing with respect to Israelis and Jews in Ukraine however did not admit he was played in the dark as 'more serious intermediary'.
The interview translation does not follow exactly the role of Biden as presented by Bennett. Bennett basically says Biden was in support of the continuation of the war.
On Bucha: Until Ukrainian side comes with names of the civilians who lost their lives under the circumstances as they were described I would continue to see it as staged propaganda operation.
There were two types of civilian deaths all very tragic: territorial defence and collateral losses. Personally I did my inquiry on the morgues records with names, addresses and ages and added them into a geo location map.
There are also speculations about the longevity of Mr. Zelensky but I can't verify them. He did and said publicly enough to be sure he is gone.
Any association with the nazi collaborators and their ideas and legacy is beyond the pale. Just to give you a very minor hint in comparison: How would you feel if the next US administration topples the monuments on the Arlington Cemetery and renames the streets around World Trade Center in NY in memory of the binladen crew?A better analogy would be memorials to Confederate War Heroes. In 1861, southern states in the USA seceded from the country and formed a new government, called the Confederacy. One of its aims was to maintain the institution of slavery. Many cities in the South have or had statues and the like, honoring men who served in the Confederate army.
There used to be a school in a city where I lived, called Robert E. Lee Elementary School. Robert E. Lee was the top general of the Confederacy. There was a movement to change the name of the school. I thought that was a great idea. How would you like to be a black kid, attending a school named for someone who fought to keep your ancestors enslaved? Well, there were a lot of people in the community who disagreed. Two of them ostracized me because I wouldn't sign their petition to keep the name.
But is that sufficient reason for a war? Admittedly I'm a pacifist, but I don't think so. NATO's continued encroachment to the east and the borderline persecution of some Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine would be much stronger arguments.
As to Bucha, regardless of whether it was real, shit happens. It happened to Vietnamese at the hands of Americans at My Lai. Americans gunned down women, children and old men. They raped some of the women first. The alleged death tolls at Bucha and My Lai were similar.
That doesn't change the fact that not that many civilians have died in the Ukraine War. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights puts the total 12,910 through March 31,2025 for Ukraine. The UN put the total at 45,000 Palestinians in Gaza as of December, 2024. There were about 18 X more people in Ukraine than there were in Gaza before the wars. And the war in Ukraine has been going on longer. The UN believes their estimates are low, for both places. But still it's hard for me to believe that the Russian leadership is targeting civilians, in Bucha or elsewhere. By the numbers, Israel obviously has a lot less respect for the lives of noncombatants than Russia.
Newton York
04-26-25, 04:03
It used to be that stupid shit in Kyiv was about bad taxi drivers or girls not being nice to you, or scams in the city, etc. Now it's all politics here. War, politics, war and then more politics. I'm sad about this. Dudes, come on man. Let's talk about pussy. Ukraine chicks. Hot Ukraine chicks!
A better analogy would be memorials to Confederate War Heroes. In 1861, southern states in the USA seceded from the country and formed a new government, called the Confederacy. One of its aims was to maintain the institution of slavery. Many cities in the South have or had statues and the like, honoring men who served in the Confederate army.
There used to be a school in a city where I lived, called Robert E. Lee Elementary School. Robert E. Lee was the top general of the Confederacy. There was a movement to change the name of the school. I thought that was a great idea. How would you like to be a black kid, attending a school named for someone who fought to keep your ancestors enslaved? Well, there were a lot of people in the community who disagreed. Two of them ostracized me because I wouldn't sign their petition to keep the name.
But is that sufficient reason for a war? Admittedly I'm a pacifist, but I don't think so. NATO's continued encroachment to the east and the borderline persecution of some Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine would be much stronger arguments.
As to Bucha, regardless of whether it was real, shit happens. It happened to Vietnamese at the hands of Americans at My Lai. Americans gunned down women, children and old men. They raped some of the women first. The alleged death tolls at Bucha and My Lai were similar.
That doesn't change the fact that not that many civilians have died in the Ukraine War. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights puts the total 12,910 through March 31,2025 for Ukraine. The UN put the total at 45,000 Palestinians in Gaza as of December, 2024. There were about 18 X more people in Ukraine than there were in Gaza before the wars. And the war in Ukraine has been going on longer. The UN believes their estimates are low, for both places. But still it's hard for me to believe that the Russian leadership is targeting civilians, in Bucha or elsewhere. By the numbers, Israel obviously has a lot less respect for the lives of noncombatants than Russia.Why do you pretend that Volodymyr Zelensky, a Jewish Ukrainian, is a nazi?
I'm glad however that you are finally out of the closet as a pro-Putin, pro-Russia, pro-disinformation and pro-war troll.
There are more nazis in russia than in Ukraine, it's a fact. European neo-nazist even travelled to russia for training camps together with the russian nazis.
So no, there's no basis for your shameless lies.
What excuse are you going to give for putins war against Georgia? Are the Georgians also nazis?
You're running out of excuses, but your credibility is already long gone.
Putin is a war criminal that's actively targeting Ukrainian civilians and children. There's no way any human can defend that, but you defend it.
You have zero regard for Ukrainian lives.
You, putin and russia have murdered at least 60'000 Ukrainians.
A better analogy would be memorials to Confederate War Heroes. In 1861, southern states in the USA seceded from the country and formed a new government, called the Confederacy. One of its aims was to maintain the institution of slavery. Many cities in the South have or had statues and the like, honoring men who served in the Confederate army.
There used to be a school in a city where I lived, called Robert E. Lee Elementary School. Robert E. Lee was the top general of the Confederacy. There was a movement to change the name of the school. I thought that was a great idea. How would you like to be a black kid, attending a school named for someone who fought to keep your ancestors enslaved? Well, there were a lot of people in the community who disagreed. Two of them ostracized me because I wouldn't sign their petition to keep the name.
But is that sufficient reason for a war? Admittedly I'm a pacifist, but I don't think so. NATO's continued encroachment to the east and the borderline persecution of some Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine would be much stronger arguments.
As to Bucha, regardless of whether it was real, shit happens. It happened to Vietnamese at the hands of Americans at My Lai. Americans gunned down women, children and old men. They raped some of the women first. The alleged death tolls at Bucha and My Lai were similar.
That doesn't change the fact that not that many civilians have died in the Ukraine War. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights puts the total 12,910 through March 31,2025 for Ukraine. The UN put the total at 45,000 Palestinians in Gaza as of December, 2024. There were about 18 X more people in Ukraine than there were in Gaza before the wars. And the war in Ukraine has been going on longer. The UN believes their estimates are low, for both places. But still it's hard for me to believe that the Russian leadership is targeting civilians, in Bucha or elsewhere. By the numbers, Israel obviously has a lot less respect for the lives of noncombatants than Russia.Let me tell you what my close friend was told by his ethnic russian relatives living in one of the occupied Ukrainian territories; Russians were not persecuted by Ukraine, but are afraid of putin, Russia and their unprovoked violence against Ukraine and civilians residing in Ukraine.
They do not want to be a part of putins dictatorship, and today they see no chance of ever being a part of a democratic russia in a humane way.
Let me be extremely clear, these are people that lived safely in a democratic Ukraine but now is forced to live in a war zone and they never know what will be putin's next genocidal move. Putin do not protect them, he puts them in danger. In fact, he has killed several ethnic russian Ukrainians.
One of the opinions is that the US wants to save face by walking away. The Ukrainian project that benefited the MIC and LNG and harmed absolutely everybody and everything else is now failing and its time to fold. Every sane stakeholder would prefer to end the hostilities. Trump is right when he says this war would not have happened should he be the POTUS. Trump would never have armed, financed and charged the AFU into the conflict. Just recently Ukraine failed to reach a deal with holders of $2. 6 billion in debt during talks in Washington this week. If no agreement is reached, the country faces default. Without financial aid and military support from the US Ukraine will eventually face a collapse even if it takes 1 to 2 years.You may very well be correct in saying that the United States just wants to save face and find an excuse to walk away. Trump has already said a few times that this is Biden's war, meaning he started it, and yes that is correct. But now it's Trump's war and he has to figure out what he is going to do.
I am on record saying here that this will be decided on the battlefield, with the Russians taking much more territory than what they currently hold and a collapse of the AFU. If Trump makes good on his vow to walk away and that means cutting off funding to Ukraine (that would make sense), then that is a very likely outcome.
The Russians will win an ugly victory and Ukraine will lose more territory. I would be happy if both sides accept the deal currently offered by Trump but I don't it's going to happen. I really hope I'm wrong. For Ukraine's sake.
John Clayton
04-26-25, 19:14
...I am on record saying here that this will be decided on the battlefield, with the Russians taking much more territory than what they currently hold and a collapse of the AFU. If Trump makes good on his vow to walk away and that means cutting off funding to Ukraine (that would make sense), then that is a very likely outcome...I am on record saying Putin will be killed by his generals, the Russian army will collapse and rapidly abandon Crimea.
...I would be happy if both sides accept the deal currently offered by Trump but I don't it's going to happen. I really hope I'm wrong. For Ukraine's sake.There are a lot of other people who hope the for the same, on both sides. Especially the grunts on the front lines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk8XJNn9Xtg
Let me tell you what my close friend was told by his ethnic russian relatives living in one of the occupied Ukrainian territories; Russians were not persecuted by Ukraine, but are afraid of putin, Russia and their unprovoked violence against Ukraine and civilians residing in Ukraine.
They do not want to be a part of putins dictatorship, and today they see no chance of ever being a part of a democratic russia in a humane way.
Let me be extremely clear, these are people that lived safely in a democratic Ukraine but now is forced to live in a war zone and they never know what will be putin's next genocidal move. Putin do not protect them, he puts them in danger. In fact, he has killed several ethnic russian Ukrainians.And this is what my colleague wrote to me in an email in July of last year.
This is a message I got today from a western business associate who worked in the FSU for a couple of decades. It's about one of his business partners who was originally from the Donbas. I've omitted places and names so I don't "out" myself or him.
*****s extended family, Aunts and Uncles and cousins live in (Name of city and area in Donbas) under the jack-boot of the Ukrainian Army and last time I heard feed-back about six months ago, they were fearing for their lives daily. Skin-heads patrol the streets and pistol whip any dissenters. They are afraid to speak Russian as they have a mixed Russian and Cossack heritage. *****s aunt and uncles and cousins have been living in their respective basements for a few years now, one cousin died of a heart attack last year (only 30 years old). ***** was devastated, it's all very sad for Ukrainians to be thrust into a major war with one of the most effective yet brutal armies historically and the west pouring weapons in, to 'save Ukraine just increases the misery of the people who can't do much as they don't live in a democracy as we understand it.
Reading is fundamental ShooBree.
Why do you pretend that Volodymyr Zelensky, a Jewish Ukrainian, is a nazi?Please note below.
...And before one of our fellow board members jumps down my throat, I'm not calling Zelensky a Nazi.
I'm glad however that you are finally out of the closet as a pro-Putin, pro-Russia, pro-disinformation and pro-war troll.
There are more nazis in russia than in Ukraine, it's a fact. European neo-nazist even travelled to russia for training camps together with the russian nazis.
So no, there's no basis for your shameless lies.Perhaps you'd like to point towards those shameless lies. I said denazification is NOT sufficient reason for a war. I can see why a monument to a leader of an organization that exterminated Polish and Jewish civilians in large numbers would grate on people though.
What excuse are you going to give for putins war against Georgia? Are the Georgians also nazis?
You're running out of excuses, but your credibility is already long gone.
Putin is a war criminal that's actively targeting Ukrainian civilians and children. There's no way any human can defend that, but you defend it.
You have zero regard for Ukrainian lives.I have a much higher regard for Ukrainian lives than you do. My constant message in this forum for the last couple of years has been that this is a stupid war and the powers involved need to end it, so people can stop dying.
Your claim that Putin's targeting Ukrainian civilians and children is bull shit. The numbers don't bear you out. Please see my comparison between civilian deaths in Ukraine and Gaza below in a reply to Questner, post #4271. Roosevelt and Churchill did target civilians and children in large numbers, when they carpet bombed Germany and Japan. There were single days when they killed more civilians than Russians killed during the entire Ukrainian war.
If you're going to adopt a very loose definition of "targeting", then maybe you have a case. But then wasn't George W. Bush orders of magnitude worse than Putin? Over 4 million people have died in post 9/11 wars by one estimate.
You...have murdered at least 60'000 Ukrainians.Get a grip ShoBree. You're not logical when you're hysterical. You might want to look at some of Paulie's posts on logic in this thread, although you'll have to wade through a ton of neoconservative clap trap to find them. I'm a poster on a hooker board. I'm not the Almighty. And like I said.
...I'm a pacifist...
I am on record saying Putin will be killed by his generals, the Russian army will collapse and rapidly abandon Crimea.OK, I'll go on record too, saying the clouds are made of cotton candy and the sky is a sea of dreams.
I am on record saying Putin will be killed by his generals, the Russian army will collapse and rapidly abandon Crimea.It will be best for Russians and our world, if we could be gotten rid of criminal dictator Putin. Unfortunately, stupid Trump wants to give him Donbass and Crimea, forgotting what he said in 2018 . Just senile and now robber.
I am on record saying Putin will be killed by his generals, the Russian army will collapse and rapidly abandon Crimea.Well, you're a dumbass, so you going on record doesn't mean jack shit.
Regards,
Blood Red.
Newton York
04-27-25, 00:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ylnQBRa28
Vladimir Putin was informed about the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces: Kursk region is liberated, the army is moving to Sumy.
The last village in Kursk Oblast has been cleared of Ukrainian soldiers, the Ukrainian operation has finally failed.
The fighting on Russian soil cost the AFU dearly. Kyiv brought in 60,000 men. They were completely ground to pieces in six months. The Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered no less heavy losses in military equipment.
76 thousand people. Losses killed and wounded. 7,700 units of military equipment were destroyed, including 412 tanks, 340 infantry fighting vehicles, 314 armored personnel carriers, 2,300 other armored combat vehicles.
- I would like to separately note the participation of the DPRK military personnel in the liberation of the border areas of the Kursk region. Soldiers and officers of the Korean People's Army, performing combat missions shoulder to shoulder with Russian military personnel, demonstrated high professionalism, showed fortitude, courage and heroism in battle, - The Chief of the General Staff.
Gerasimov reported. At the same time, the general emphasized that the participation of Korean soldiers is fully consistent with international standards. After all, the countries have a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty, which entered into force on December 4, 2024.
So, we have expected the above results around end of December or early January but it took longer.
John Clayton
04-27-25, 04:23
Vladimir Putin was informed about the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces: Kursk region is liberated, the army is moving to Sumy...Ukraine says they're still there...
Ukraine says they're still there...And you believe it. Dumbass. LOL.
If you knew absolutely anything about the conflict and have followed it over the years, you'd know that Ukraine never admits a loss until a long time afterwards. Like with Bakhmut, Avdivka, etc etc. They admitted they were driven out months later.
Vladimir Putin was informed about the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces: Kursk region is liberated, the army is moving to Sumy.
The last village in Kursk Oblast has been cleared of Ukrainian soldiers, the Ukrainian operation has finally failed.
The fighting on Russian soil cost the AFU dearly. Kyiv brought in 60,000 men. They were completely ground to pieces in six months. The Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered no less heavy losses in military equipment.
76 thousand people. Losses killed and wounded. 7,700 units of military equipment were destroyed, including 412 tanks, 340 infantry fighting vehicles, 314 armored personnel carriers, 2,300 other armored combat vehicles.
- I would like to separately note the participation of the DPRK military personnel in the liberation of the border areas of the Kursk region. Soldiers and officers of the Korean People's Army, performing combat missions shoulder to shoulder with Russian military personnel, demonstrated high professionalism, showed fortitude, courage and heroism in battle, - The Chief of the General Staff.
Gerasimov reported. At the same time, the general emphasized that the participation of Korean soldiers is fully consistent with international standards. After all, the countries have a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty, which entered into force on December 4, 2024.
So, we have expected the above results around end of December or early January but it took longer.Another failure for the Nazi Kiev regime. I said at the start that this was a huge blunder and only for optics. And Zelensky was going to use this as a bargaining chip, that sure turned out nicely. Now he wants to send 18 year olds to the front line. What an enormous tragedy.
Newton York
04-29-25, 01:43
While we're here talking about Kyiv. Which do you think is worse?
Being in an actual prison, like in Bangkok's Bang Kwang. Or the metaphorical prison of being trapped in a shitty job in the States?
One is literally prison, but it's in beautiful Thailand. While the other is not actually prison, but sure as hell feels like it. Especially with the asshole co-workers. Life is tough dudes. Fucking tough *sigh*.
'Our position on the agreement is well known. We proceed from the fact that Kiev's non-membership in NATO and confirmation of its neutral and non-aligned status in accordance with the 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine is one of the two pillars for a final settlement of the Ukrainian crisis that meets Russia's security interests. The second is to overcome the consequences of the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, formed as a result of the February 2014 coup, including its actions to legislatively and physically exterminate everything Russian — language, media, culture, traditions, and canonical Orthodoxy.
International recognition of Russia's ownership of Crimea, Sevastopol, Donetsk People's Republic, Lugansk People's Republic, Kherson Oblast and Zaporizhia is imperative. All of Kiev's commitments must be legally enforceable, have enforcement mechanisms and be permanent. On the agenda are the tasks of demilitarizing and denazifying Ukraine, lifting sanctions, lawsuits and arrest warrants, and returning Russian assets "frozen" in the West. We will also seek reliable guarantees of the security of the Russian Federation against the threats posed by the hostile activities of NATO, the European Union and its individual member states on our western borders. '.
Full interview here:
https://oglobo.globo.com/mundo/noticia/2025/04/28/a-bola-nao-esta-do-nosso-lado-diz-lavrov-sobre-negociacao-com-ucrania.ghtml
Another failure for the Nazi Kiev regime. I said at the start that this was a huge blunder and only for optics. And Zelensky was going to use this as a bargaining chip, that sure turned out nicely. Now he wants to send 18 year olds to the front line. What an enormous tragedy.Ukrainians are nazis? And Putin is best for human rights?
Reiner Otto
04-29-25, 15:59
It will be best for Russians and our world, if we could be gotten rid of criminal dictator Putin. Unfortunately, stupid Trump wants to give him Donbass and Crimea, forgotting what he said in 2018 . Just senile and now robber.Simplest and fastest and cheapest solution to end the war: Put a "contract" on Putler, just 1 Billion Dollars should do the trick.
Said it already 2 years ago.
Just take the money from the frozen assets.
Simplest and fastest and cheapest solution to end the war: Put a "contract" on Putler, just 1 Billion Dollars should do the trick.
Said it already 2 years ago.
Just take the money from the frozen assets.Good solution and Russians would be more free and could live with their brothers Ukrainians. Problem is Trump is too stupid and preferred to suck him and wants to rob poor Ukrainians.
'Our position on the agreement is well known. We proceed from the fact that Kiev's non-membership in NATO and confirmation of its neutral and non-aligned status in accordance with the 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine is one of the two pillars for a final settlement of the Ukrainian crisis that meets Russia's security interests. The second is to overcome the consequences of the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, formed as a result of the February 2014 coup, including its actions to legislatively and physically exterminate everything Russian language, media, culture, traditions, and canonical Orthodoxy.
International recognition of Russia's ownership of Crimea, Sevastopol, Donetsk People's Republic, Lugansk People's Republic, Kherson Oblast and Zaporizhia is imperative. All of Kiev's commitments must be legally enforceable, have enforcement mechanisms and be permanent. On the agenda are the tasks of demilitarizing and denazifying Ukraine, lifting sanctions, lawsuits and arrest warrants, and returning Russian assets "frozen" in the West. We will also seek reliable guarantees of the security of the Russian Federation against the threats posed by the hostile activities of NATO, the European Union and its individual member states on our western borders.In other words; the war will continue.
There won't be any international recognition, the Russian assets are now Ukrainian assets and the sanctions from the EU won't disappear.
How can Russia pretend to be the victim when they have nuclear weapons and always start wars against their peaceful neighbors, like Ukraine and Georgia.
They seem to live in a post truth society where every day is April fool's day.
I love how the Russian regime is crying about Russian culture in Ukraine when Putin killed the future of Russian culture in Ukraine. You don't exactly win the Ukrainian people's hearts and minds by murdering their children.
Newton York
05-03-25, 01:08
This war is getting out of hand. I don't understand why Russia is targeting Spain and Portugals power grid. This is getting scary guys.
Russia invaded Ukraine during the previous administration as they simply watched, played cheer leader, sent the money entrusted to them to others when it would be better spent on my fellow Americans. Trump has been in office for just over 100 days. Give the man at least as long as the previous administration has to effectively do something.
During this period of time France has not put boots on the ground to help the Ukrainians!
Good solution and Russians would be more free and could live with their brothers Ukrainians. Problem is Trump is too stupid and preferred to suck him and wants to rob poor Ukrainians.
Elvis 2008
05-03-25, 15:12
In other words; the war will continue.
There won't be any international recognition, the Russian assets are now Ukrainian assets and the sanctions from the EU won't disappear.
How can Russia pretend to be the victim when they have nuclear weapons and always start wars against their peaceful neighbors, like Ukraine and Georgia.It is pretty funny about how Europe is saying Russia being in Ukraine is so intolerable to Europe. The scam here is the same as almost every war has been since WW2, something akin to the domino theory. If we do not stop them in Ukraine, they could be breathing down the necks of Germany in no time.
What is so stupid is from 1945 to 1989, Russia was already in East Germany.
And they are supposed to give up their nuclear weapons is a new one. Really? Yeah, well, you are right. If that is a question of peace, the Russians can and should keep fighting.
The irony of the domino theory is that NATO did in fact expand until they were right on the Russian border and worse than that with NATO help, Ukraine actually invaded Russia. That the Russians want to keep a buffer zone and their nukes seems rational to me given all that has gone on.
Ukrainians are nazis? Some are yes, and they are a big part of the government. I guess you've not heard of the Azov battalion.
This war is getting out of hand. I don't understand why Russia is targeting Spain and Portugals power grid. This is getting scary guys.You're sounding like some of the Russophobes here Newton. They were sure that Russia sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines transporting its own gas. Ridiculous.
The power outage in Spain was caused by overreliance on solar and wind energy and underinvestment in the grid.
You're sounding like some of the Russophobes here Newton. They were sure that Russia sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines transporting its own gas. Ridiculous.
My favorite lie was that the Russians were bombing the Zaporzhia nuclear power plant, which they control. So basically the Russians were bombing themselves. Amazing.
Oh yeah the Russians are running out of missiles. The Russians are fighting with shovels too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQgr3De1AUQ
Posted today a unique interview with the President covering 25 years. Use Setting to generate captions. The translation has mistakes but generally tolerable. It's a long watch but highly recommended.
Some are yes, and they are a big part of the government. I guess you've not heard of the Azov battalion.Ukrainians never attacked Russia, not even after Crimea robbery, when criminal dictator Putin attacked Ukraine. These are real facts and so many Russians killed because of only Putin.
Ukrainians never attacked Russia, not even after Crimea robbery, when criminal dictator Putin attacked Ukraine. These are real facts and so many Russians killed because of only Putin.Crimea has always been Russian and the Crimean people voted to join Russia. I thought you folks in the collective west believe in democracy? Or do you only accept referendums that you yourself conduct and accepts the results you like, like the one in Kosovo?
Crimea has always been Russian and the Crimean people voted to join Russia. I thought you folks in the collective west believe in democracy? Or do you only accept referendums that you yourself conduct and accepts the results you like, like the one in Kosovo?Wasn t Crimea belonging to Ukraine since 1991 , when Putin was nothing then. Putin didn t respect what he signed in Minsk and fucked elections, so, same level of democracy than in Russia, killing challengers. He also tried to fuck elections in Georgia, Moldavia, Romania. For sure, Putin level of democrat, when a real criminal and dictator. Russians are too blind, when Putin is their worst disease. Opinion of somebody who love Russia, so I can only hate Putin who dirty Russia. Same for Trump in USA.
John Clayton
05-06-25, 05:13
Crimea has always been Russian and the Crimean people voted to join Russia. I thought you folks in the collective west believe in democracy? Or do you only accept referendums that you yourself conduct and accepts the results you like, like the one in Kosovo?This is pure Russian propaganda and disinformation. The history of Crimea is a complex; however, a unifying theme has been Russian imperialism attempting to gain total control over the last 250 years. Crimea was only demoted to an oblast in 1945 following the ethnic cleansing (by the Russians) of the Crimean Tatars in 1945. The Russians have wanted Crimea for centuries, but it has never been Russian.
Crimea has always been Russian and the Crimean people voted to join Russia. I thought you folks in the collective west believe in democracy? Or do you only accept referendums that you yourself conduct and accepts the results you like, like the one in Kosovo?Crimea as well as present territory of Kherson region became Russian in April of 1783.
As well,
Field Marshal Alexander Suvorov crossed the Swiss Alps between September 11 and October 7, 1799. This was part of his Swiss campaign during the War of the Second Coalition, where his Russo-Austrian forces attempted to drive the French out of Switzerland. His army faced extreme hardships, including fierce battles and treacherous terrain, but managed to escape encirclement.
Crimea as well as present territory of Kherson region became Russian in April of 1783.
As well,
Field Marshal Alexander Suvorov crossed the Swiss Alps between September 11 and October 7, 1799. This was part of his Swiss campaign during the War of the Second Coalition, where his Russo-Austrian forces attempted to drive the French out of Switzerland. His army faced extreme hardships, including fierce battles and treacherous terrain, but managed to escape encirclement.Crimea did belong to Ukraine since 1991 and according to Russia, til 2014 . At this time, when USSR split, Putin was only a nothing in KGB. When Russians and Ukrainians are brothers with so many mixed families, Russians should never follow such criminal dictator. Same for Israel with Netanyahou and USA with Trump.
Putin is kind of Staline hidden son and Russians are just pieces of meat for him. Russians would live more free and better without such criminal dictator.
Some are yes, and they are a big part of the government. I guess you've not heard of the Azov battalion.There are no nazis in the Ukrainian government, but there are a lot of nazis in Russia and the Russian government.
Crimea as well as present territory of Kherson region became Russian in April of 1783.
As well,
Field Marshal Alexander Suvorov crossed the Swiss Alps between September 11 and October 7, 1799. This was part of his Swiss campaign during the War of the Second Coalition, where his Russo-Austrian forces attempted to drive the French out of Switzerland. His army faced extreme hardships, including fierce battles and treacherous terrain, but managed to escape encirclement.Crimea and Kherson became Ukrainian in 1922 respectively 1954.
Crimea has a long history of being anything but Russian. Moscow's shameless and brutal imperialism doesn't give Russia right to anything but contempt.
If you want to talk history you're obligated to start with saying that Karelia belongs to Finland and how Russia started wars and murderous war crimes to steal Karelia from Finland. Russia also need to give up Kaliningrad since it's historically not a Russian territory.
Putin is kind of Staline hidden son and Russians are just pieces of meat for him. Russians would live more free and better without such criminal dictator.Putin showed again today to our world he doesn t want to stop war he started, while stupid crazy Trump keep on playing dangerous clown. Our world have to really isolate Russia and block their values, only way to stop this war making Russia broke, when they are not far to be.
Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian has always come for their money. And when they come. Do not rely on an agreement signed by you, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian is to play fair, or do not play.
The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia.
Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the decomposition of the main forces of Russia, which is based on millions of Russian. The latter, even if they break up international treaties, just as quickly re-connect with each other, like pieces of a particle of mercury.
Ukraine still winning? Obviously, the whole country will be taken.
Elvis 2008
05-27-25, 01:44
Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian has always come for their money. And when they come. Do not rely on an agreement signed by you, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian is to play fair, or do not play.
The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia.
Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the decomposition of the main forces of Russia, which is based on millions of Russian. The latter, even if they break up international treaties, just as quickly re-connect with each other, like pieces of a particle of mercury.That is probably the smartest thing I have read. There would have been no war in Ukraine if the USA kept its word about not moving NATO to the East. I get Trump's frustration with Putin but also why Putin and Russia cannot trust Trump. It is not Trump, but the fact that Trump will not be in office in 2029. What happens then? We have seen Russia make a deal with one American administration just to have another one come in and nix the plan later.
Kamala bragged about brining Ukraine into NATO right before the war. Does anyone believe she or any of the other Democrats would not do the exact same thing once Trump is out of office? Virutally all Democrats want Ukraine in NATO, and the Russians know it.
Ukraine still winning? Obviously, the whole country will be taken.Yes, Ukraine is winning.
The Russians are running of missiles. The Russians are running out of drones. The Russians are fighting with shovels. Putin is gravely ill. Crimea will be retaken. The Russians are bombing the ZNPP. The Russians blew up Nordstream. Russia has lost over a million soldiers.
Russia is broke, where did you get that from? Even after paying for a war now for several years, Russia's debt to GDP ratio was around 20 to 25%, unlike the 120% for the US or circa 90% for the Euro area. Russia is far from broke.
Putin was quite clear; you put Nato in my backyard and I am going to respond. So he responded.
History is a great teacher, the Europeans / Nato should have known better than to bait the bear!
Putin showed again today to our world he doesn t want to stop war he started, while stupid crazy Trump keep on playing dangerous clown. Our world have to really isolate Russia and block their values, only way to stop this war making Russia broke, when they are not far to be.
The Azov brigades and their backers in the Ukrainian establishment may disagree.
Western media was extensively reporting the far right threat from Ukraine all the way up to the point where they stopped as Europe suddenly became Ukraines ally in the war against Russia. Western media is morally bankrupt, why would you believe anything that comes from them over the Russians. Putin may only give you half the truth, but its more than you will get from the bastions of free speech in the West.
There are no nazis in the Ukrainian government, but there are a lot of nazis in Russia and the Russian government.
Yes, Ukraine is winning.
The Russians are running of missiles. The Russians are running out of drones. The Russians are fighting with shovels. Putin is gravely ill. Crimea will be retaken. The Russians are bombing the ZNPP. The Russians blew up Nordstream. Russia has lost over a million soldiers.I'm afraid Crimea and probably part of Donbass won't return to belong to Ukraine. Trump is sucking too much Putin and only interested to rob poor Ukrainians, with his lies about USA help money.
Russia is broke, where did you get that from? Even after paying for a war now for several years, Russia's debt to GDP ratio was around 20 to 25%, unlike the 120% for the US or circa 90% for the Euro area. Russia is far from broke.
Putin was quite clear; you put Nato in my backyard and I am going to respond. So he responded.
History is a great teacher, the Europeans / Nato should have known better than to bait the bear!I wrote: Rather than a stupid sucker Trump, our world have to make Russia becoming broke, not buying petrol and gaz which enable Putin to buy weapons to kill women and children, even many Russian companies are not paid by Putin. This war is only criminal dictator Putin war, when Ukraine and NATO never threatened Russia and same for Finland. For sure, Russian medias are as objective as in north Korea.
I'm afraid Crimea and probably part of Donbass won't return to belong to Ukraine. Trump is sucking too much Putin and only interested to rob poor Ukrainians, with his lies about USA help money.But I thought Ukraine was winning? That's what the mainstream western media keeps telling me. Are you saying they are lying?
But I thought Ukraine was winning? That's what the mainstream western media keeps telling me. Are you saying they are lying?Which western media claim Ukraine is winning? Tell us, when most medias report about too many killed by criminal Putin. But Ukrainians are for sure very courageous to resist to weak Russian army since more than 3 years.
Very long read however very important read on the above.
Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner.
Slavic Studies Panel Addresses "Who Promised What to Whom on NATO Expansion?
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early
Of course Gorby the traitor didn't listen to Baker's advice on economy, but it's another story.
Gentlemen, In light of developments today, has your prognosis for an end to the war improved? Or do you think peace is as far away as ever? Thanks in advance.
Gentlemen, In light of developments today, has your prognosis for an end to the war improved? Or do you think peace is as far away as ever? Thanks in advance.Unfortunately for poor Ukrainians, after Trump sucked Putin dick for months when Putin has Trump balls in his hand, now Putin just makes fun of the old senile telling white today and black tomorrow, without even understanding difference. I m afraid Crimea and probably other parts are lost for Ukraine and Putin doesn t respect agreements. Only way to stop this war is never Trump, but only making broke Russia, then maybe blind Russians will wake up and make same than to Ceacescu, when almost same dictator. Russia would live better without criminal dictator Putin, when nobody want to attack Russia, but only his paranoiac business. Same for criminal Netanyahou making his war business with everybody, to avoid prosecution and supported by so shameful Trump. All 3 would be prosecuted if they didn t make their business to avoid it. Poor world with such criminals.
Gentlemen, In light of developments today, has your prognosis for an end to the war improved? Or do you think peace is as far away as ever? Thanks in advance.No, I remain very pessimistic. The war has not yet started.
No, I remain very pessimistic. The war has not yet started.When crazy Putin, but he showed to the world his army is quite weak, after more than 3 years.
No, I remain very pessimistic. The war has not yet started.Do you mean you expect the war to expand and directly involve other countries besides Russia and Ukraine?
Your link to the National Securities Archive back in May, which I read a couple of years ago, explains why Russia could be so upset with the West's broken promises that this could spread.
Do you mean you expect the war to expand and directly involve other countries besides Russia and Ukraine?
Your link to the National Securities Archive back in May, which I read a couple of years ago, explains why Russia could be so upset with the West's broken promises that this could spread.Yes, I do. In respect to short and medium range missiles treaty of 1988 which I witnessed first hand we are back to square one. Any intervention on the part of NATO into Ukraine, any impediment of maritime traffic in the Baltic Sea, any action in Tiraspol all may broaden the conflict to disastrous outcomes.
Again, with the US being the main architect of the conflict, the US Administration has now the chance to close the Ukrainian project, to restore balance, to improve the relationship between the countries and then other issues will be resolved.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Russia's willing to agree to a ceasefire if Ukraine cedes all of Donetsk and Luhansk, and if the world recognizes Russia's claim to the Donbas and Crimea. From there details become sketchy. Zaporizhzhia and Kherson might be divided up along the current lines of control or Ukraine might end up with all of the two oblasts. A third possibility is that there might be a land trade for some part of Zaporizhzhia or Kherson currently under Russia's control for land in Donetsk controlled by Ukraine.
I'm only seeing this right now in the WSJ. Other media sources aren't reporting on it.
This could be good news.
Yes, I do. In respect to short and medium range missiles treaty of 1988 which I witnessed first hand we are back to square one. Any intervention on the part of NATO into Ukraine, any impediment of maritime traffic in the Baltic Sea, any action in Tiraspol all may broaden the conflict to disastrous outcomes.
Again, with the US being the main architect of the conflict, the US Administration has now the chance to close the Ukrainian project, to restore balance, to improve the relationship between the countries and then other issues will be resolved.
Thanks Questner, you’re insightful as always
Poor Ukrainians who may be fucked by senile Trump sucking Putin who hold his balls, in Alaska. Since 1991 , Crimea did belong to Ukraine and same for other places now invaded, when Putin who was just nothing in 1988 , is an invader. And Trump criticized on his first election Crimea invaded, but he is too senile now. Criminal Putin can t travel all over the world now, so he needs his criminal friends to receive him. Same for Netanyahou.
No, I remain very pessimistic. The war has not yet started.Russia has a bigger vision.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Russia's willing to agree to a ceasefire if Ukraine cedes all of Donetsk and Luhansk, and if the world recognizes Russia's claim to the Donbas and Crimea. From there details become sketchy. Zaporizhzhia and Kherson might be divided up along the current lines of control or Ukraine might end up with all of the two oblasts. A third possibility is that there might be a land trade for some part of Zaporizhzhia or Kherson currently under Russia's control for land in Donetsk controlled by Ukraine.
I'm only seeing this right now in the WSJ. Other media sources aren't reporting on it.First of all WSJ is anti-Trump and publishes mostly deliberate nonsense with respect to the conflict. Ignore it.
Ukraine can withdraw troops from 4 regions, but can't cede it without changes in the Constitution. Big difference mass media does not emphasize it to you.
Ceasefire can be only temporary, limited and conditional and by all means it should leave no chance to NATO's direct intervention.
It's up to individual countries to recognize the facts, like Nicaragua did recently, but it can't added to the treaty. The US can recognize, but I don't see how Congress passes it.
It's hard to comment about 2 regions, Zaporozhye and Kherson, the only thing is don't believe any news who may claim the RF promised to cede them.
Trump's efforts are laudable, but we discount them in the long term. It's our land for millennium and we will get it one way or another and unite the country.
Even if some technical details may be complicated, the general picture of the conflict is rather simple, and I don't know why some lack mental acuity to get it.
Russia has a bigger vision.Russian meat for war, or criminal dictator Putin?
Sir Tony Brenton had an interesting take on the meeting on CNN this afternoon. Brenton is a career British civil servant and old Russia hand who served as Britain's ambassador to Russia from 2004 to 2008, during Labour Party administrations.
Witkoff said today Russia was willing to accept security guarantees from the USA And other nations, akin to NATO's Title 5. Title 5 states that an armed attack against one NATO member is an attack against them all. Conversations between the Trump administration and European officials appear to confirm that Russia has agreed to accept robust security guarantees for Ukraine.
Brenton said Russia didn't and won't agree, under any circumstances, to Ukrainian membership in NATO. But a guarantee like what Witkoff described is just as good.
Brenton in fact believes the two countries now have a good path towards peace. And the meeting this Friday may be the beginning of the end. The security guarantee was the most problematic stumbling block.
That said, I'd trust Questner's forecast of what's to come over Brenton's, and Questner believes this has farther to go. Questner, I hope you're wrong this time. It would be great to see Russia, Ukraine, the United States, and Europe on the same page. And maybe with time they'll all be friendly, as they should be.
Peace and love.
Tiny.
Sir Tony Brenton had an interesting take on the meeting on CNN this afternoon. Brenton is a career British civil servant and old Russia hand who served as Britain's ambassador to Russia from 2004 to 2008, during Labour Party administrations.
Witkoff said today Russia was willing to accept security guarantees from the USA And other nations, akin to NATO's Title 5. Title 5 states that an armed attack against one NATO member is an attack against them all. Conversations between the Trump administration and European officials appear to confirm that Russia has agreed to accept robust security guarantees for Ukraine.
Brenton said Russia didn't and won't agree, under any circumstances, to Ukrainian membership in NATO. But a guarantee like what Witkoff described is just as good.
Brenton in fact believes the two countries now have a good path towards peace. And the meeting this Friday may be the beginning of the end. The security guarantee was the most problematic stumbling block..The membership in NATO is not acceptable as it means NATO's infrastructure and Participation of Ukraine herself in the block. Now, Russia has to able to enforce the neutrality: trust but verify but enforce. How this is going to be achieved is a mystery to me.
The second issue is dealing with many military bi-lateral agreements that Ukraine has signed recently. They all have to go. That 100 year agreement with the UK is one of them.
Any type of a guarantee resembling Article 5 is meaningless. Not only no one can profit from it now, it won't become any impediment to restart the conflict any time in future should the need come, and believe me Ukraine will be blamed for the restart.
Finally, unless the total re-balance is achieved and the relationships are improved between the EU, the US and the RF, this treaty may become short lived and be forgotten soon once the current leadership change. This is why I am pessimistic and expect a large scale conflict in years to come soon.
Too old, senile Trump sucking so good criminal Putin on red carpet, now want to give him Crimea when he criticized while invasion, and Dombass when Putin was never able to defeat Donetsk. Putin just waiting to cum in Orange mouth and dirty red carpet. Trump is just a sucker clown, not reliable, fucking stupid Americans and trying with our world.
PaulInZurich
08-18-25, 14:54
The Alaska summit was a shit show.
Putin got everything he wanted and gave nothing in return.
The level of incompetence in US foreign policy is astounding. First Witkoff gives 3 different statements what was agreed before and what will be confirmed at the summit. Of course, the outcome was the 4th version, because like with the trade negotiations, anything that was discussed without Trump present means exactly zero. That is just for starters.
In foreign policy symbolism matter. So let's start with that image with US soldiers literally on their knees rolling the red carpet towards the Russian government plane. The Russian (dis) information space had a great time with that one. I am old enough to remember the weeks with endless hours on TV with people clutching their pearls when Obama saluted a marine with a coffee cup in his hand or when he was wearing a tan suit. Then you have Trump waiting for Putin on the red carpet, then suddenly all smiles and clapping, yes, like a circus seal, clapping for a murderous thug. He looked like a freshman who gets to meet the star quarterback. The fact that they didn't have the common meal and the press conference after their meeting shows you that even Trump knows that it was a disaster. Of course, he can't admit that, so know the spin machine is revving at high speed. My explanation why the meeting was cut short is that Putin said "Donnie, the blowjob in your car was enough, no need for a second one. I am in a rush to get back, I have an appointment with my hair dresser".
From what came out so far, Putin asks for Ukraine to give up Donbass entirely, the areas that have the best Ukrainian fortifications. All he offered is that he doesn't ask for 100% of Zaporishia and Kherson. As long as these regions stay in the Russian constitution he can come back later and argue that well, actually. Then there is the vague "root causes of the war" which for him mean a pro Russian government and a severely reduced Ukrainian army.
Elvis 2008
08-18-25, 16:04
Sir Tony Brenton had an interesting take on the meeting on CNN this afternoon. Brenton is a career British civil servant and old Russia hand who served as Britain's ambassador to Russia from 2004 to 2008, during Labour Party administrations.
Witkoff said today Russia was willing to accept security guarantees from the USA And other nations, akin to NATO's Title 5. Title 5 states that an armed attack against one NATO member is an attack against them all. Conversations between the Trump administration and European officials appear to confirm that Russia has agreed to accept robust security guarantees for Ukraine.
Brenton said Russia didn't and won't agree, under any circumstances, to Ukrainian membership in NATO. But a guarantee like what Witkoff described is just as good..Yeah, I think it is different this time too. Trump had made a campaign promise on fixing the Ukraine war in 24 hours and Putin used that to his advantage. He kept saying all the right things to Trump but doing all the wrong things by pushing for more territory and ramping up the drone fights.
Interestingly, it was Melania Trump who got the Don to see the light on how he was being played by Putin. That is when Trump got pissed. He smoothed things over with Zelensky and told the Russians he was really going to clamp down on things and by clamping down, that meant taking Russian oil tankers via the USA Navy and increasing LNG shipments massively to Europe. With a reduction and oil and gas income, Russia is dead in the water.
The war mongers were all saying that Russia was coming from Europe. Russia has 110 million inhabitants versus 449 million in the EU. When I read this, I was laughing at the war monger deep state types that were pushing this Russia is coming for Europe narrative. They always want these forever wars and the checks that come with them.
And while there may have been popular support on both sides at the start of the war, that support has gone to nothing. Everyone on both sides is sick of this shit.
I am still not sure the USA should be in NATO, but one nice side effect of this war is Europe has stepped up their defense spending, and they have cut down on their idiotic green energy spending that left Spain and Portugal in the dark.
Trump did an amazing job with Israel and Iran which was something I worried about. I thought Trump was just going to have us doing Israel's bidding, but he blasted both Israel and Iran when the cease fire was violated, and things have calmed there. He deserves great credit for how he handled that situation, and I think we will see the same here.
Thing is even if he brings peace to Ukraine, the Democratic douches will still find something new to gripe about with Trump.
John Clayton
08-18-25, 17:12
...Trump did an amazing job with Israel and Iran ...Thing is even if he brings peace to Ukraine, the Democratic douches will still find something new to gripe about with Trump.For a perspective, read Frank Bruni's column in the NYT: "Give Trump the Nobel!
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/18/opinion/trump-nobel-peace-prize.html
From what came out so far, Putin asks for Ukraine to give up Donbass entirely, the areas that have the best Ukrainian fortifications. All he offered is that he doesn't ask for 100% of Zaporishia and Kherson. As long as these regions stay in the Russian constitution he can come back later and argue that well, actually. Then there is the vague "root causes of the war" which for him mean a pro Russian government and a severely reduced Ukrainian army.You obviously haven't been paying attention to anything Putin has been saying since forever. The root cause of this conflict was NATO expansion into Ukraine. That was Putin's red line and will never be allowed. Ukraine will have to be neutral along the lines of the Austrian model.
Gentlemen, In light of developments today, has your prognosis for an end to the war improved? Or do you think peace is as far away as ever? Thanks in advance.Let's see what happens today in DC.
Considering what is currently only being talked about and nothing agreed:
Ukraine giving up the entire Donbas, Russia freezing the contact line in Zap and Kherson, recognition of Crimea being Russian and no NATO in Ukraine.
I still find it a bit hard to believe that Putin would agree not to capture all of Zap and Kherson as they are now according to the Russian constitution a part of Russia. But then when I look at the whole picture and the geography, Russia would get the entire Donbas and would get to keep the land bridge to Crimea, get recognition of Crimea and there would be no Ukraine in NATO. Throw in some bits about Russian language and church rights, and you get some sanctions lifted, I think it is still a pretty good deal and a huge win IMHO.
Thoughts?
P.S I think the Europeans are going to try their hardest to get the corrupt illegal dictator of Ukraine with no mandate to walk away to keep this tragedy going. If that happens, I really hope Trump and the United States step aside. Then it will be settled on the battlefield of course with a comprehensive Russian victory and Ukraine losing not just 4 but possibly 4 more Oblasts. Ukraine really should take this deal to save what is left.
Europe don t trust Trump, when we know Putin is stronger than him, too old senile, playing for everything like in casino.
Couple of points to emphasize again.
This one for EU and UK leaders: Russia expects Ukraine to be neutral, non-aligned and non-nuclear. One of the goals of the SMO is demilitarization of Ukraine, I. E. Russia will not allow the current AFU forces to remain forward. Why would a peaceful neutral state want a million men army armed to the teeth?
Humanitarian aspect: All rights of Russian speaking and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church should be restored.
I can't imagine Rada voting for the above and the current government implementing the comprehensive agreement of this nature.
Remember, as I posted before, 'loose-loose' is a prevailing rural mentality that always shapes the policy and actions in Ukraine.
Couple of points to emphasize again.
This one for EU and UK leaders: Russia expects Ukraine to be neutral, non-aligned and non-nuclear. One of the goals of the SMO is demilitarization of Ukraine, I. E. Russia will not allow the current AFU forces to remain forward. Why would a peaceful neutral state want a million men army armed to the teeth?
Humanitarian aspect: All rights of Russian speaking and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church should be restored.
I can't imagine Rada voting for the above and the current government implementing the comprehensive agreement of this nature.
Remember, as I posted before, 'loose-loose' is a prevailing rural mentality that always shapes the policy and actions in Ukraine.When Putin is a liar and not respecting agreements, Ukraine and Europe have to protect versus such international criminal. He is crazy, but we know now his army is weak, when he was not even able to defeat Donetsk in 3 years and half. But he is stronger than too old Trump, so Europe can t trust them both.
Elvis 2008
08-19-25, 17:13
For a perspective, read Frank Bruni's column in the NYT: "Give Trump the Nobel!
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/18/opinion/trump-nobel-peace-prize.htmlThe last South Park episode skewered Trump and Kristi Noem and I laughed my ass off. Republicans were polled, and they liked it too. It was actually funny, and I thought Trump's spokesperson and Noem's response were pretty lame.
That some NYT columnist wrote the trash that he did ranks up their with Deniro's fuck Trump speech, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceQ0Zb1G8Io. If you thought that editorial or Deniro were great, you are in a cult.
I think the reason one is funny and the other two are not is South Park is using satire and exaggeration and the NYT and Deniro just come across as bitter losers.
And the timing is terrible. Trump is on the verge of something historic, and you Democratic douche cultists cannot stand to see him have any success even if it means saving millions of lives.
Trump could cure cancer, and you all would still find something to gripe about.
John Clayton
08-19-25, 20:30
...Trump is on the verge of something historic...Wondering what that would be?
Now that a lot of the BS from the Trump administration is out of the way, it's clear the Russians never explicitly said they would let go of the parts of Zaporizhya and Kherson they still don't control in exchange for full control of Donetsk. All this talk about security guarantees and the non-sense the Europeans are spewing (article 5 guarantees, European troops in Ukraine, seriously what planet do these warmongers live on?) are also non starters.
Putin will never meet the so called President of Ukraine with no mandate. That clown just wants a photo op and to try to look tough with Putin. Putin isn't stupid to meet with this corrupt actor with no solid agenda and stuff ready to sign.
So unfortunately, as I predicted months ago, this will be decided on the battlefield, and the result will be a Russian victory of course.
Now that a lot of the BS from the Trump administration is out of the way, it's clear the Russians never explicitly said they would let go of the parts of Zaporizhya and Kherson they still don't control in exchange for full control of Donetsk. All this talk about security guarantees and the non-sense the Europeans are spewing (article 5 guarantees, European troops in Ukraine, seriously what planet do these warmongers live on?) are also non starters.
Putin will never meet the so called President of Ukraine with no mandate. That clown just wants a photo op and to try to look tough with Putin. Putin isn't stupid to meet with this corrupt actor with no solid agenda and stuff ready to sign.
So unfortunately, as I predicted months ago, this will be decided on the battlefield, and the result will be a Russian victory of course.Russia weak army was not able to win and take Donetsk in 3 years and half and Zelensky is more supported by Ukrainians than criminal dictator Putin by Russians, when he can t even travel in the world. When we can t trust Trump show and business, our world have to make Russia broke, to make Russians eating Putin from starvation, when already big inflation in Russia. And same in USA with Trump taxes. All my support to Ukraine versus Putin and Trump, even Crimea is lost and probably part of Donbass, but not Donetsk yet.
Good points by all. A week's time has shown Questner and Blood Red were correct in their skepticism. We're back to where we were months ago.
It's a pity. This situation needs to be settled, for the benefit of all involved. Certainly Russia has plenty of good reasons to be aggrieved, going back to the broken promises made to Gorbachev. Certainly if the tables were turned the United States wouldn't sit still if Mexico were on track to become a member of the Warsaw Pact.
But why can't the sides fast forward and take this to an end before there are a million more casualties? Russia and Europe and Ukraine and the USA should be on the same side. Imagine the effect on the prosperity of the countries if they could, say, each cut defense expenditures by 2% or 3% of GDP. And if trade, like Russian gas flows to Europe, resumes. Sanctions need to go. Unfortunately, they have a way of dragging on forever, like Cuba. Look at Iran. That country was dragged into penury and remains there. Admittedly Russia has weathered sanctions much better, but they're still a drag.
With Trump in the United States presidency, there's a good chance they would be lifted if the fighting stops. Also Trump would appear to be more sympathetic to Russia's positions than most western leaders. There's about a 3-1/2 year window before Trump leaves office during which relations can be righted. I hope the various sides take the steps to make that happen.
And you know Elvis, yes you have to give Trump credit for at least trying. I hope he doesn't give up.
Good points by all. A week's time has shown Questner and Blood Red were correct in their skepticism. We're back to where we were months ago.
It's a pity. This situation needs to be settled, for the benefit of all involved. Certainly Russia has plenty of good reasons to be aggrieved, going back to the broken promises made to Gorbachev. Certainly if the tables were turned the United States wouldn't sit still if Mexico were on track to become a member of the Warsaw Pact.
But why can't the sides fast forward and take this to an end before there are a million more casualties? Russia and Europe and Ukraine and the USA should be on the same side. Imagine the effect on the prosperity of the countries if they could, say, each cut defense expenditures by 2% or 3% of GDP. Sanctions need to go. Unfortunately, they have a way of dragging on forever, like Cuba. Look at Iran. That country was dragged into penury and remains there. Admittedly Russia has weathered sanctions much better, but they're still a drag.
With Trump in the United States presidency, there's a good chance they could be lifted. Also Trump would appear to be more sympathetic to Russia's positions than most western leaders..Fortunately, Europe support much more Ukraine than robber senile Trump who forgot what he told about Crimea invasion years ago. When Ukraine became independent, Putin was only nothing in FSB, not even known by dogs. Now we have Putin and Trump for liars, Ukraine and Europe can t trust.
Elvis 2008
08-24-25, 18:43
Good points by all. A week's time has shown Questner and Blood Red were correct in their skepticism. We're back to where we were months ago. And you know Elvis, yes you have to give Trump credit for at least trying. I hope he doesn't give up.I do not agree we are back where we were. A ceasefire is easy to agree to, but Putin and Trump both said they were not going to do a ceasefire. There is a helluva lot stuff to hammer out. All the players have had their input. They need to work out details. Whether a deal is done is up in the air, but Russia has been able to sell their oil and gas with relative ease despite the so called sanctions. If that stops, and Trump has been bullshitted by Putin for months now and wants to get serious, then I think you can call this a failure.
I do not agree we are back where we were. A ceasefire is easy to agree to, but Putin and Trump both said they were not going to do a ceasefire. There is a helluva lot stuff to hammer out. All the players have had their input. They need to work out details. Whether a deal is done is up in the air, but Russia has been able to sell their oil and gas with relative ease despite the so called sanctions. If that stops, and Trump has been bullshitted by Putin for months now and wants to get serious, then I think you can call this a failure.Stopping war in 1 day, orange clown bad joke, when he is fucked deeply in the ass and even more since Alaska, since months. Only way to stop Putin is to make him broke and Russia under starvation to eat him, when already inflation.
I think what is happening here is Trump washing his hands off slowly and as much as he can. He knows this can't be settled via negotiations, the gaps are too wide and you just can't square that circle. Hence why Trump said let Putin and Zelensky meet. He knows that is not going to happen.
So yes, IMHO, we are back to square one and this will be settled on the battlefield with an ugly Russian victory and a frozen conflict.
I think what is happening here is Trump washing his hands off slowly and as much as he can. He knows this can't be settled via negotiations, the gaps are too wide and you just can't square that circle. Hence why Trump said let Putin and Zelensky meet. He knows that is not going to happen.
So yes, IMHO, we are back to square one and this will be settled on the battlefield with an ugly Russian victory and a frozen conflict.But Trump who told to stop in 1 day, is just ridiculous now, fucked by Putin who shoot US company in West Ukraine, despite MAGA sucked a lot criminal dictator Putin and also supporting other criminal Netanyahou.
Elvis 2008
08-26-25, 17:01
I think what is happening here is Trump washing his hands off slowly and as much as he can. He knows this can't be settled via negotiations, the gaps are too wide and you just can't square that circle. Hence why Trump said let Putin and Zelensky meet. He knows that is not going to happen.
So yes, IMHO, we are back to square one and this will be settled on the battlefield with an ugly Russian victory and a frozen conflict.Sigh. Yeah, you are right. Thing is with all the slop in journalism these days you often do not who to listen to. As such I trust the guys I pay for on Substack.
Seymour Hersh seems to have better contacts than anyone in government. He had Biden blowing up Nordstream and I was laughing my ass off at the cover story of a bunch of drunken Ukrainian divers taking out Nordstream. OMG was that a terrible story. He also got the USA bombing Iran story right days before it happened.
Anyway, here is what he has said about the summit: The much anticipated summit earlier this month in Anchorage was a flop: Putin rebuffed Trump's request for a ceasefire, and the woefully unprepared Trump seemed more intent on finding a way to earn a Nobel Peace Prize than striking a realistic bargain on Ukraine.
That is sad. It cracks me up when we people who like Trump get bashed as cultists. We know who he is and his flaws. I do not like the whole Russiagate bullshit narrative, but I do think that Putin knows how to kiss Trump's ass the right way and push Trump's buttons. South Park did a hilarious bit about the line of international and domestic leaders who lined up in the White House to kiss Trump's ass and give him gifts. That is sad but true. Trump gets disarmed by flattery.
So I do not know what we in the USA do at this point. We have most of the crap that went on from Russiagate. It is clear that the Democrats made Putin into this Hitleresque like character to distract from all the shit they were doing.
Thing is the old USSR had half of Germany. What is the big deal to the USA if Russia has the Eastern part of Ukraine that is mostly Russian? Why is that the end of the world?
The bullshit is always the same with war. If you do not stop him in Ukraine, then it is onto all of Europe and the USA! I am sick of it. I want our budget balanced. We cannot afford these forever wars anymore.
The big difference between Hitler and Putin is the German people suffered after WW One. The Germans were humiliated, bankrupted, and stabbed in the back. The Russian people have had it pretty good lately. It was rough in 2000 or so, but things had been going well for them.
I remember the videos of the Russian soldiers in the gas pipelines in the Kursk region of Russia. They were not happy and were cursing Putin by name.
I watched that documentary on Chernobyl, and if it was accurate, the workers were hardly in lockstep with the government. They were pissed at being asked to do what the government wanted. They did it but they were pissed.
So yeah, you can sell the Russian people on their own being abused in Ukraine, but I do not think you can go more than that. You will lose the support of the Russian people. I think the Russians have lost somewhere between half a million and a million men and how many more have been disabled? And it is not like people are not suffering at home as well. Ukraine has been taking out many Russian facilities and there have been casualties there as well.
So yeah, I agree with you, Bloodred. The Russians will continue to grind it out and take the parts of Ukraine they want, and we are just going to be throwing money down the drain trying to stop that.
I agree with you. Sadly, I cannot see this stopping until the Russians get what they want.
Sigh. Yeah, you are right. Thing is with all the slop in journalism these days you often do not who to listen to. As such I trust the guys I pay for on Substack.
Seymour Hersh seems to have better contacts than anyone in government. He had Biden blowing up Nordstream and I was laughing my ass off at the cover story of a bunch of drunken Ukrainian divers taking out Nordstream. OMG was that a terrible story. He also got the USA bombing Iran story right days before it happened.
Anyway, here is what he has said about the summit: The much anticipated summit earlier this month in Anchorage was a flop: Putin rebuffed Trump's request for a ceasefire, and the woefully unprepared Trump seemed more intent on finding a way to earn a Nobel Peace Prize than striking a realistic bargain on Ukraine.
That is sad. It cracks me up when we people who like Trump get bashed as cultists. We know who he is and his flaws. I do not like the whole Russiagate bullshit narrative, but I do think that Putin knows how to kiss Trump's ass the right way and push Trump's buttons. South Park did a hilarious bit about the line of international and domestic leaders who lined up in the White House to kiss Trump's ass and give him gifts. That is sad but true. Trump gets disarmed by flattery.
So I do not know what we in the USA do at this point. We have most of the crap that went on from Russiagate. It is clear that the Democrats made Putin into this Hitleresque like character to distract from all the shit they were doing.
Thing is the old USSR had half of Germany. What is the big deal to the USA if Russia has the Eastern part of Ukraine that is mostly Russian? Why is that the end of the world?
The bullshit is always the same with war. If you do not stop him in Ukraine, then it is onto all of Europe and the USA! I am sick of it. I want our budget balanced. We cannot afford these forever wars anymore.
The big difference between Hitler and Putin is the German people suffered after WW One. The Germans were humiliated, bankrupted, and stabbed in the back. The Russian people have had it pretty good lately. It was rough in 2000 or so, but things had been going well for them.
I remember the videos of the Russian soldiers in the gas pipelines in the Kursk region of Russia. They were not happy and were cursing Putin by name.
I watched that documentary on Chernobyl, and if it was accurate, the workers were hardly in lockstep with the government. They were pissed at being asked to do what the government wanted. They did it but they were pissed.
So yeah, you can sell the Russian people on their own being abused in Ukraine, but I do not think you can go more than that. You will lose the support of the Russian people. I think the Russians have lost somewhere between half a million and a million men and how many more have been disabled? And it is not like people are not suffering at home as well. Ukraine has been taking out many Russian facilities and there have been casualties there as well.
So yeah, I agree with you, Bloodred. The Russians will continue to grind it out and take the parts of Ukraine they want, and we are just going to be throwing money down the drain trying to stop that.
I agree with you. Sadly, I cannot see this stopping until the Russians get what they want.Inflation for Russians under war and even less freedom. They would live better if they got rid of Putin.
Anyway, here is what he has said about the summit: The much anticipated summit earlier this month in Anchorage was a flop: Putin rebuffed Trump's request for a ceasefire, and the woefully unprepared Trump seemed more intent on finding a way to earn a Nobel Peace Prize than striking a realistic bargain on Ukraine.He won't get a noble peace prize for Ukraine since it will be settled on the battlefield. Credit to Trump for at least talking to the Russians though. And one more thing to remember. Let's say Trump agrees to the Russian demands, there are still 2 other parties that need to agree and won't. The Europeans and especially the Zelensky regime.
The bullshit is always the same with war. If you do not stop him in Ukraine, then it is onto all of Europe and the USA! I can't believe some people actually buy into this horseshit. And what is funny is this. On one hand, we hear the collective west say Russia is weak, their army is shit, they are suffering such huge losses, the situation on the ground is a stalemate, blah blah blah. And then they tell us that Russia will go after Poland, the Baltic republics, etc afterwards. Laughable.
So yeah, I agree with you, Bloodred. The Russians will continue to grind it out and take the parts of Ukraine they want, and we are just going to be throwing money down the drain trying to stop that.
I agree with you. Sadly, I cannot see this stopping until the Russians get what they want.The best deal the Ukraine will get is the one on the table now, no matter how bad it looks. If this goes on for a couple of more years and there is a collapse of AFU (possible for sure), then expect the Russians to take 4 more Oblasts including Odessa. And then what, Ukraine becomes a land locked country.
What a needless tragedy.
He won't get a noble peace prize for Ukraine since it will be settled on the battlefield. Credit to Trump for at least talking to the Russians though. And one more thing to remember. Let's say Trump agrees to the Russian demands, there are still 2 other parties that need to agree and won't. The Europeans and especially the Zelensky regime.
I can't believe some people actually buy into this horseshit. And what is funny is this. On one hand, we hear the collective west say Russia is weak, their army is shit, they are suffering such huge losses, the situation on the ground is a stalemate, blah blah blah. And then they tell us that Russia will go after Poland, the Baltic republics, etc afterwards. Laughable.
The best deal the Ukraine will get is the one on the table now, no matter how bad it looks. If this goes on for a couple of more years and there is a collapse of AFU (possible for sure), then expect the Russians to take 4 more Oblasts including Odessa. And then what, Ukraine becomes a land locked country.
What a needless tragedy.Fortunately Europe resist to clown Trump, to support Ukraine, when MAGA clown wants to fuck them. Shame to MAGA.
John Clayton
08-28-25, 05:00
...The best deal the Ukraine will get is the one on the table now, no matter how bad it looks...What a needless tragedy.No thanks. In spite of duplicitous / traitorous Trump, Ukraine is winning. As an aside, I love the (surprising) videos of the little Bradley IFV'l raging through the Russians. Pure pleasure.
No thanks. In spite of duplicitous / traitorous Trump, Ukraine is winning. As an aside, I love the (surprising) videos of the little Bradley IFV'l raging through the Russians. Pure pleasure.Yes, Ukraine is winning. I have been saying this since day 1.
Fortunately Europe resist to clown Trump, to support Ukraine, when MAGA clown wants to fuck them. Shame to MAGA.International criminal killing mothers and babies Putin really fuck too old orange MAGA who wants to rob Ukraine.
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