Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Just ran across this report from a few years back. Best pure sex of my life — to this day. True lesbian lovers who needed some dick in the mix and I was the lucky guy! Hope some of you enjoy it.

Cincinnati -- Sometimes It's Just Sex!

(not that there's anything wrong with that! LOL).

OK I am definitely on a black girls run. Confirmed tonight with a last minute duo score. Of course I was just with Kayla in Florida, but have traveled to Cincinnati. I had researched it before and had some prospects but honestly I was fucked out. Just couldn't muster the energy.

Till night three. LOL. There was a work event and after a couple glasses of wine, I start thinking "why not" and start texting girls randomly from my playlist or brand new prospects from SA. Very aggressive opener — like "I'm going out tonight to a nice dinner and drinks. Want to join me?" I had used this approach in London with some success and generally recommend it.

A few nibbles but really no bites and I am now back in my hotel room half heartedly sending out inquiries, when I get a response from two black girls. "Sure. $500 for us both". They aren't quite my type but marginally cute and I haven't had a duo in a while so I say let's do it. I'm a little wary of course because you rarely get that direct a come on. But I go with the flow — carefully.

Originally, I suggest we meet at a bar, but they remind me they are both only twenty and underage for drinking. LOL. So better to come to the room. Of course my scam radar is on high. Because they are driving 30 miles to see me and coming straight to the room. Not exactly standard offering. We are texting and they say they are on their way. I am certain I am going to get the "oh we are out of gas can you send money" text and resigned to jacking off. But the text never comes and sure enough they show up! WTF?

Amara is a rail thin tall dark black girl and Kayara is a thick light black girl. Couldn't be two more different looking black females. Turns out they are girlfriends and have been dating nine months. This ends up being very important to the vibe and what all we do. Amara is clearly the alpha and Kayara enjoys being a sub.

We chat amiably over some wine and I learn lots of interesting things. They are both freshman in college (skipped a year after HS) so there's that fantasy to check off. They tell me about their relationship. And I also learn that they have tried Seeking twice and were stood up both times! One time they drove two hours and were stood up! Poor things — all they want is a daddy to fuck! So I am their first SD and boy do we make it memorable.

You can tell they are both a little nervous but the wine is helping Amara. Kayara doesn't drink and def seems a bit more shy. We actually have a really good conversation— what are they studying and why, what do I do for work etc. Eventually I excuse myself to go pee and say for them to get more comfortable if they like. They are both just in sweats because this was a last minute deal and they just came on. But in a way it's great because I'm going to be fucking two freshman coeds you might see on the the quad! LOL.

On returning, Amara is under the covers but sweatshirt still on and Kayara is slowly undressing. When Kayara is down to her bra (nice big the Cups) I come over and embrace her and go for the kiss. At first I get a cheek, then two small pecks on the lips. Hmm, this seems like a bad sign but I just go with the flow. Glad I did!

I say "it's really cute that you are both so new to this" and they say why do I say that. And I say just by the way you kissed, I could tell you are really nervous. So Amara, the skinny one — and I mean she must be 5-10 and weigh 80 pounds — really amazing in an odd way — she gestures for me to come to the bed where she rears up and plants a deep and passionate French kiss on me — like this is how it's done baby. I find that even though she is in her sweatshirt she is naked down below. I squeeze that amazing tight ass with both hands and start to grow hard.

Pretty soon I am naked standing at the side of the bed, Kayara has finished undressing revealing a thick but attractive bod and Amara pulls her sweatshirt off over her head. Kayara starts blowing me while I make out with Amara but soon they are both blowing the fuck out of me and I remember why I like duos!

The double BJ is absolutely epic. They seem to be totally in sync. Two mouths on shaft side to side. Kayara on shaft, Amara on balls. Amara on upper shaft, Kayara on lower. After a while I stop paying attention to what's what. There is so much sloppy shit going on down there that it's mind blowing and I can't keep track of all the sensations.

A couple of times I get the urge to fuck, but then think bloody hell why would I stop this? They must blow me easily for 20 minutes before I decide I've got to fuck one or the other. First up is Kayara in doggie style where she can eat Amaras pussy. Of course girls are pros at eating pussy, so she is driving Amara absolutely bat shit crazy as I fuck her from behind. She has a nice thick butt to grab on to and as she gets more and more lost in it (she likes fucking) she's whispering "fuck me daddy. Yes, like that. Harder. " LOL.

After an eternity of this (I had jacked off earlier that day thinking it was going to be a celibate night) I decide to try out Amara and I swap them up. No need to change condoms because they are lovers! Amara is still on her back so Kayara moves up to sit on her face and I plunge into mish with Amara. She's very tight as you might expect given her body type. Some light bites and kisses on Kayara's back since it's right where my face lands. And some great mish pounding of Amara.

I eventually decide I want to cum, hoping to even do a round 2 but that's never guaranteed. So I lose the condom and lie on my back and they go to work. It's spectacular again and a lot of it but not quite cumming. So I move to standing again where they are on the edge of bed and I get a great visual. After quite a bit more I start to cum in Kayaras mouth (she is better on shaft) and she pulls me out of our her mouth. So I start to shoot on Amaras shoulder as she is on ball work. Good girl she is, Amara doesn't want to waste good cum, so she gets me in her mouth for a few pumps of finish CIM. Damn. Like that girl's swagger!

They start working me and kissing me for round two instantly but I say I need to rest a bit. So we cuddle, but after a minute, Amara starts to finger Kayaras pussy and they are off to the races for the best girl on girl I've ever witnessed. I learned a lot!

Amara is using her two middle fingers inside Kayara and fucking her aggressively and hard while slathering her clit with her tongue. Kayara is off in space somewhere and squealing and moaning. Then Amara switches to fingers side to side on clit. Her hand is moving so fast it's a blur -- I mean literally a blur. And Kayara is going nuts. She has a clenching O but Amara is merciless and drives her for another O right after and then another.

I join the fun as we are just using Kayara like a fuck toy and she is sooooo down with that. So Amara starts finger fucking her again and I simultaneously do the furious clit side to side rubbing so she is getting doubled up. And fuck she goes thru two or three more Os. She's convulsing and shaking and eventually swats both our hands away (literally). It's like she's had electroshock and is just totally wiped out.

I only let her rest a minute or so and bring Kayara to the edge of the bed for mish with me standing (The Steve). So now Kayara can do Amara for a while when Amara sits on her face. She's a lot more gentle but Amara seems to like it and has some face scrunching Os. The fucking of Kayara goes on a long time- and I love that position. Even though I think Kayara is all fucked out, not so. Her legs are straight up in the air as I fuck her deep and she has a couple Os one right after the other. Her right leg goes stiff and vibrates like a motherfucker and then subsides and then about 10 strokes later she's hit by another wave and the leg goes batshit crazy again. Can't fake that shit!

At some point I get the desire to finger fuck Amara the way she did Kayara. So while Kayara is curled up in a fetal ball resting, LOL, I start making out with Amara and finger fucking her with my middle and ring finger as I learned from her. I am going in and out aggressively but she hand signals to do the same; but not in and out — but instead, aggressive gspot tapping. This is prob what she was doing inside of K — finger fucking and gspot tapping both look similar from outside. So I am tapping her gspot like a madman and she has some crashing Os.

I've had pussys clamp down on me before but hers it like a full pushout. It feels like her pelvic floor is coming down and absolutely drives my fingers out. Then it relaxes and back in I go. And tap tap tap and boom another wave. Normally I would stop but I learned from watching them, that a girl can have a connected string of Os. So I go again and give her a couple more where she totally clamps down and pushes me out with her pussy. It's really something. Wow.

Ok time to fuck Amara again so I fuck her in doggie and she eats Kayaras pussy some more. Eventually we all kinda tire and they slide under the covers and create a little space between them for me. I squeeze in and we doze and snuggle for a while, a girl's head on each shoulder. King of the world.

They are lightly playing with me by hand under the covers and I say I think I have one more shot in me if they are game. So we pull back the covers and down they go. A true labor of love -- they must be at it another ten minutes or more and it is truly great. I think I might have to go to a hand finish but when Kayara is on shaft and Amara on balls. OMG. It's soooo good. Eventually I shoot a load — again Kayara backing off but Amara quickly slurps up the goods! What a team.

So then we just doze and cuddle but eventually they have to go. Amara has class at 10:30 AM but Kayara has a 7:00 AM class. College girls! Def one of my best pure sex experiences ever. Never been with two girls so passionately into each other but still with the right focus on me. It was a two hour blur of nonstop fucking and sucking and fingering. Five stars!

[Gfefan]

Been a while.

A close family member was not well and I had to drop it all to take care.

Returning after a long hiatus. Excited to be back but I quickly realize how fickle things are in the US.

I did not fall off the radar but informed those girls that I will be out for so and so reason. Coming back 3 out of 4 girls don't give a damn. Don't get me wrong. I don't expect them to. These are quid pro quo.

But I can't help not comparing my Europe bases. All the three of those. Messaged me right back saying "I know it must be hard coming out of what you are coming out of. If you need to talk to someone, just call me. I a here to listen".

Such Atlantic sized gulf of difference in attitude and approach. Now, why wil I not help EU SBs even if we don't fuck! That personable non-transactional interaction doesn't seem to exist in consumerist US.

[Steve 9696]

Been a while.

A close family member was not well and I had to drop it all to take care.

Returning after a long hiatus. Excited to be back but I quickly realize how fickle things are in the US.

I did not fall off the radar but informed those girls that I will be out for so and so reason. Coming back 3 out of 4 girls don't give a damn. Don't get me wrong. I don't expect them to. These are quid pro quo.

But I can't help not comparing my Europe bases. All the three of those. Messaged me right back saying "I know it must be hard coming out of what you are coming out of. If you need to talk to someone, just call me. I a here to listen".

Such Atlantic sized gulf of difference in attitude and approach. Now, why wil I not help EU SBs even if we don't fuck! That personable non-transactional interaction doesn't seem to exist in consumerist US.

First. Great to have u back GFE. U are a great SA slayer and I always enjoy ur write ups.

So agree the US bites and are all entitled biatches. But there are exceptions if you look hard enough. Nerdy Girl was a nice find locally. And now Hood Girl is likely to replace her just a few weeks later. (I call her Hood Girl because she grew up dirt poor and lives very low income today). But damn she's a sweet soul! Such a nice girl. So grateful for any kindness. Shy and submissive. I predict greatness here.

And not to count chickens too much but last night I FINALLY after a month of looking scored a gem in a large US city. Still got meetup but we've done a lot of voice and she is 100% reall. Doesn't know what to ask because she doesn't want to feel like a pro. Going to take kid gloves but she's one in a million. Smokin hot and unspoiled as a newborn. Crossing fingers. But that was after a solid month of looking nightly. You got to be on it and pounce because they aren't going to be on next time youre on. (Hood Girl hasnt been on in the past month once we agreed a meetup). I know you know this GFE but daily persistence is essential in the US.

[MrBuckley]

Hoping there can be some contribution on the range of cost of dates in some city in Europe. Trying to decide where to visit next.

Last year Italy and Milan were overall not worth it dates were typically 4-600 eu. Some asking more than that, not sure anyone agreed for less than 400.

I am trying to get some info on the cost of dates in Portugal, Spain, maybe some other places that may deem themselves affordable.

Recently had a nice time in Guadalajara and found dates to be nicely priced.

[FilthyBeaver]

The standard of living in Mexico vs Europe is generally not comparable. There are always exceptions and I'm sure there are guys that claim they've pulled a girl off seeking for nothing but as a general rule 4-500 is the number in western Europe. Maybe 3-500 in eastern Europe. How hard you want to look for something cheaper than that who also meets whatever criteria you want is entirely up to you, both your patience and your game.


Hoping there can be some contribution on the range of cost of dates in some city in Europe. Trying to decide where to visit next.

Last year Italy and Milan were overall not worth it dates were typically 4-600 eu. Some asking more than that, not sure anyone agreed for less than 400.

I am trying to get some info on the cost of dates in Portugal, Spain, maybe some other places that may deem themselves affordable.

Recently had a nice time in Guadalajara and found dates to be nicely priced.

[Elvis 2008]

Hoping there can be some contribution on the range of cost of dates in some city in Europe. Trying to decide where to visit next.

Last year Italy and Milan were overall not worth it dates were typically 4-600 eu. Some asking more than that, not sure anyone agreed for less than 400.

I am trying to get some info on the cost of dates in Portugal, Spain, maybe some other places that may deem themselves affordable.

Recently had a nice time in Guadalajara and found dates to be nicely priced.I always used escort prices as a guide and Spain and Portugal are cheaper than Italy, and I was just in Spain and Italy with my gal and daughter. All of Western Europe have had shrinking populations and using immigration to compensate. Of all the countries in Western Europe, Spain may have had the easiest of time of it as they have been importing Spanish speaking people in from Latin America and trying to keep the others out, and as you can imagine, the Latinas are going to have less of an issue with escorting than Muslims for example.

The other Latinas are also going to have an easier time in Spain and Portugal than Italy is the language. I thought Italian and Spanish were comparable and boy they were not. I had to translate for us more often than not because so many Italians knew English and not Spanish.

So you have that influx of not just Latinas but I would venture to say the top Latinas looking for a better life. I want a lover trying to be better all the time and that is what the Latinas who have gone to Europe were doing, looking for better. I wondered why all of them preferred Europe to the USA though. I realized that was because so many only consider NYC, California, and Orlando, Florida the USA, and I do not want to be in those places either. I swear you spend half your life in traffic or in line if you live there.

It is funny when I went to Venezuela I was underwhelmed by the beauty of the women and yet outside the country, I saw some of the most beautiful women, who were Venezuelans, I had ever seen. So it would not surprise me if some if not most of the best looking Latinas are in Spain and Portugal now.

I was surprised going that I thought the women in Italy and Spain were better looking than those in Mexico and Colombia. I certainly did not expect that.

[Steve 9696]

The standard of living in Mexico vs Europe is generally not comparable. There are always exceptions and I'm sure there are guys that claim they've pulled a girl off seeking for nothing but as a general rule 4-500 is the number in western Europe. Maybe 3-500 in eastern Europe. How hard you want to look for something cheaper than that who also meets whatever criteria you want is entirely up to you, both your patience and your game.+1 got to go with FB on this. You might find a Spain girl will take 300, which is less than Milan for sure. But doubt anyone's going for 200 anywhere in Europe. Got to go Brazil or Colombia or Thailand to hit the basement prices.

[FilthyBeaver]

I'll add that I don't think seeking in general is for bargain hunters. There are pros there but if you're looking for a quick lay there are lots of options. If you want to dine, dance, build some kind of connection, etc then seeking is for you but it's been said a million times, it's a ton of work.


+1 got to go with FB on this. You might find a Spain girl will take 300, which is less than Milan for sure. But doubt anyone's going for 200 anywhere in Europe. Got to go Brazil or Colombia or Thailand to hit the basement prices.

[VanessasClient]

Hoping there can be some contribution on the range of cost of dates in some city in Europe. Trying to decide where to visit next.

Last year Italy and Milan were overall not worth it dates were typically 4-600 eu. Some asking more than that, not sure anyone agreed for less than 400.

I am trying to get some info on the cost of dates in Portugal, Spain, maybe some other places that may deem themselves affordable.

Recently had a nice time in Guadalajara and found dates to be nicely priced.I was able to find girls for less than 200 in EU, but it wasn't for the whole night. If you want dinner starting at 6 PM, and dessert after midnight, I think for 6+ hours you'd be hard pressed to find a girl willing to go much below 300. I'm sure you could in Greece, possibly Romania, or some of the really poor parts of the Eastern Bloc such as Latvia, etc. But I personally don't find those run down countries very appealing, and I'm guessing you don't speak Greek or the other obscure languages. Not like there's a whole lot to do in those places anyhow, and I wouldn't feel exceptionally safe wandering around alone. Turkey definitely below 300 equivalent, possibly below 200 for the whole night.

[VanessasClient]

Hey guys, when do you normally assume that you won't hear back from a Seeking member. If their profile says "last active 3 weeks ago" Do most of those not respond to messages? Or do you normally see them off market when it says 6 months or more?

[Steve 9696]

Hey guys, when do you normally assume that you won't hear back from a Seeking member. If their profile says "last active 3 weeks ago" Do most of those not respond to messages? Or do you normally see them off market when it says 6 months or more?I never contact a girl unless she's online. Too many girls come on and never come back. Plus sometimes you get a relatively real time conversation going which is best.

[VanessasClient]

I never contact a girl unless she's online. Too many girls come on and never come back. Plus sometimes you get a relatively real time conversation going which is best.So even if it says she was last online 4 hours ago, you still don't reach out?

[Steve 9696]

So even if it says she was last online 4 hours ago, you still don't reach out?Yeah but maybe that's me being lazy. You can see their green dot without even going in their profile. So I just contact green dot girls. I suppose if the market is very thin I browse the next ones down that aren't green dot. But that's pretty rare. It's just a lot more productive mining amongst the online girls.

[FilthyBeaver]

I'm picky, like really really picky. My only limit is I don't contact anyone that hasn't been on in more than two weeks. 1) there really aren't that many girls that fit my criteria anyway and 2) the girls who are on a lot usually have a whiff of pro, semi-pro, or scammer about them.


I never contact a girl unless she's online. Too many girls come on and never come back. Plus sometimes you get a relatively real time conversation going which is best.

[VanessasClient]

Yeah but maybe that's me being lazy. You can see their green dot without even going in their profile. So I just contact green dot girls. I suppose if the market is very thin I browse the next ones down that aren't green dot. But that's pretty rare. It's just a lot more productive mining amongst the online girls.That has to be what is getting me; I'm looking at a somewhat obscure city. Not too many girls to choose from; especially given I have other criteria on the filter, like age, etc.

[WhileImYoung]

Hi all, I'm a relatively new poster but have observed for a bit. I spent almost a year in Bogota and Medellin with Seeking. Happy to share some experiences there.

I'm thinking about heading to check out Panama City or another nearby country next. Any experiences for folks in those parts?

[GoingDumb]

Recently checked some things off the sex wishlist with the girl I've been seeing for awhile.

Backshot. I know this is standard for some of you but I'the been too scared to try but pulled it off one night. Still makes me a little nervous but curious how you guys make sure you pull out in time?

Swallowed. Mentioned she always swallowed (never been with a girl who did that) and had been kicking myself for not doing it. CIM has gotten harder for me for some reason and finishing from BJs in general. While I enjoyed it it's almost a little too degrading for me / I feel like porn makes it seem better than it is ie you don't really see much.

Road head. Coming back one night she got super horny did it after I made her come in the car. I enjoyed it but the driving was hard. Probably best not on the highway. She really wanted to fuck but I didn't know where to pull over. Should've tried harder haha.

Now the bad. Noticed she disappeared from my messages and found she blocked my account. Paid for premium with burner account I use to browse and found her no problem. Had it set to hide views so I hope it worked w / the burner but still not a great feeling. Could be something, could be nothing but I guess all I can do is enjoy it.

[Steve 9696]

Think I mentioned I got a new number one at home. But don't think I posted the full sexcapades. Here's the report out from date 1. Date 2 was even a bit better in the bedroom. Since I knew she wa submissive I gave her blow by blow blowjob instructions and she took to it like a fish to water. Plus added in some improv and finished CIM swallow w a smile. Def a keeper.

I have a new favorite local girl. Still not up to par w my Brazilian nor my Italian girl but seems quite promising for my smallish city. And beggars can't be choosers. Better optics than Nerdy Girl and much better kissing and BJ than Fuck Bunny. Though they both remain on the backup roster and I'the probably make a date if they show any initiative.

I met Gina on Seeking about a month ago. Nice little chat and quick to WhatsApp. Some nice girlfriendy back and forth and she seemed a legit girl just looking for a bit on the side. At barely 21 she's a bit on the younger side but had a good girl next door vibe.

She signed up easy to my proposed dinner and intimacy menu but when discussing allowance she said she didn't really like asking for things and I should do what she deserved. This was a little bit of a red flag but I let it roll.

Took a bit to arrange a date between my travel and her work schedule (two jobs) but we finally worked it out. She said she likes Mexican and Chinese so we found a great taco place.

Day of the date she says will we meet there or will I pick her up and she says either works. So I say ok I will pick her up. But when she sends her address I am a bit sketched out because it's in a rough part of town and a really run down multi unit.

I don't really want to bail but I think it could be a setup because girls don't usually get in cars with strangers. After a bit of thought I have the epiphany and say babe I will send you an Uber and she is down with that. So it's on!

I arrive at the taco place a few minutes early and track her to the door. Very pleasant surprise when she walks in. She's looking smokin in low rise corduroys and a crop top sweater. She looks like her best picture yes but even better in person and love the sexy outfit.

Turns out she is basically a girl from the hood. Her current low income living conditions are a big step up from how she grew up. But the amazing thing is instead of being sad and bitter she is humble and grateful for the smallest kindness. Shockingly, despite our quite different backgrounds the conversation flows super well. It's darn clear that not only is she a solid person I can def improve her life.

We both order three tacos and they are pretty big. For a skinny girl that girl can eat. I only eat 2. 5 of mine and she asks if she can finish the third one and then asks super politely if I mind if she orders another. Damn she can put it away. And is still super slim.

At some point she mentions she hopes I don't mind that she vapes tho she didn't bring it with her. I say not only do I not mind but let's get you one on our way. So after the "want to get out of here" I take her to Shayla's (former SB) favorite smoke shop and get her a new vape. She is of course thrilled and I am so happy to do her small favors.

I get kind of a laugh when I pull into the hotel parking lot and she says "oh are spending the night? I woulda brought my PJs". Hahaha no girl only and hour or two. Checkin is easy and we are soon on the bed together making out.

At first it's a bit of dry humping and making out which frankly I love. I push my hard dick rhythmically against her pussy and we both are loving the kissing and rhythm. But soon enough I say it seems like we have on too many clothes and both get naked.

Often the girl initiates BJ but she's on her back. So I move to the side of the bed and position for Steve 2. I start fingering her and position my dick near her head, me on my knees. She takes the hint and starts a really nice slow in and out BJ.

Fingering her is great fun. She's sloppy wet from the get go and I start with my middle finger but soon have two fingers in stroking her gspot. She's left on her little no-show socks and I am enjoying watching her curl her toes as I pleasure her. Of course she is blowing me (the magic of Steve 2) and it feels absolutely great.

We must go at this for at least 15 minutes because we are both getting what we want but I'm getting a bit tired in that posture and flop to my back where she mounts up cowgirl. She has a great time riding and makes the ugliest faces like she's at a funeral so I know it's real. LOL.

After a while I switch to the Steve and give her a real pounding at the edge of the bed. It feels absolutely great but I don't threaten to blow a stack having whacked off day before and had several drinks. After a while I say "let's take a rest". I was thinking a short rest but she rolls over to spoon position like we're kinda done.

Of course here is where it's great she's a seeking girl and not a GF because I'm def not going to just be ok packing it in. So I let us both rest a bit and say "Can we do some more blowjob" and she says sure!

I position her between my legs (any of the rest of you care about symmetry? I don't like it from one side.) and she goes to town. Very credible in and out work. But then I ask her to do my balls. You can tell she doesn't do this a lot but she's earnest in her task. She's just licking away and I say you can suck too. So she does but not like the big ball suck of some girls. She's just doing a very thoughtful and gentle worshipping of my sack and it feels amazing. Like 10+ minutes of amazing and I am hard as a brick again.

I consider finishing in her mouth but honestly I want to fuck her again so I ask her to go doggie at end of bed and I slide in. She's not as wet as before so I start gentle but after a bit of fucking she is super wet again and I am pumping away.

I love that she says "You can be a lot rougher with me if you want, Steve" Ilove the way she used my name there in mid sex. It was just so endearing. And so I really start hammering. Making sure I hit hard and balls deep on every thrust. And man I can feel the build. I just keep hammering away and then pull and shoot a load on her butt and back. Niceeee!

Lovely wind down where she says "I'm sorry I'm not very good at blowjobs". Don't you love this girl? I assure her it was fine but going to let her take that humble submissive attitude and train her up just the way I like it next time!

As we wrap things up I ended up giving her $350 (sure she would have taken less but I wanna help her) which was in an envelope sight unseen. And even though she didn't even know what was in there, she said "I knew you were a nice guy Steve but I didn't know you would be this much fun. I'd love to see you again!" Again she has no idea how much I gave her and she wants to see me again — that’s my kinda girl. Definite repeat and hopefully a keeper for a bit.

[FilthyBeaver]

Out of curiosity how do you keep a roster so big? Not all, but I'd say most, of the girls I've seen are somewhat reliant on our meetings. Especially the legit college girls. I have known girls that I call once every blue moon but that is definitely the minority. I would think most would move on if they weren't getting the sugar regularly.


Think I mentioned I got a new number one at home. But don't think I posted the full sexcapades. Here's the report out from date 1. Date 2 was even a bit better in the bedroom. Since I knew she wa submissive I gave her blow by blow blowjob instructions and she took to it like a fish to water. Plus added in some improv and finished CIM swallow w a smile. Def a keeper.

I have a new favorite local girl. Still not up to par w my Brazilian nor my Italian girl but seems quite promising for my smallish city. And beggars can't be choosers. Better optics than Nerdy Girl and much better kissing and BJ than Fuck Bunny. Though they both remain on the backup roster and I'the probably make a date if they show any initiative.

I met Gina on Seeking about a month ago. Nice little chat and quick to WhatsApp. Some nice girlfriendy back and forth and she seemed a legit girl just looking for a bit on the side. At barely 21 she's a bit on the younger side but had a good girl next door vibe.

She signed up easy to my proposed dinner and intimacy menu but when discussing allowance she said she didn't really like asking for things and I should do what she deserved. This was a little bit of a red flag but I let it roll.

Took a bit to arrange a date between my travel and her work schedule (two jobs) but we finally worked it out. She said she likes Mexican and Chinese so we found a great taco place.

Day of the date she says will we meet there or will I pick her up and she says either works. So I say ok I will pick her up. But when she sends her address I am a bit sketched out because it's in a rough part of town and a really run down multi unit.

I don't really want to bail but I think it could be a setup because girls don't usually get in cars with strangers. After a bit of thought I have the epiphany and say babe I will send you an Uber and she is down with that. So it's on!

I arrive at the taco place a few minutes early and track her to the door. Very pleasant surprise when she walks in. She's looking smokin in low rise corduroys and a crop top sweater. She looks like her best picture yes but even better in person and love the sexy outfit.

Turns out she is basically a girl from the hood. Her current low income living conditions are a big step up from how she grew up. But the amazing thing is instead of being sad and bitter she is humble and grateful for the smallest kindness. Shockingly, despite our quite different backgrounds the conversation flows super well. It's darn clear that not only is she a solid person I can def improve her life.

We both order three tacos and they are pretty big. For a skinny girl that girl can eat. I only eat 2. 5 of mine and she asks if she can finish the third one and then asks super politely if I mind if she orders another. Damn she can put it away. And is still super slim.

At some point she mentions she hopes I don't mind that she vapes tho she didn't bring it with her. I say not only do I not mind but let's get you one on our way. So after the "want to get out of here" I take her to Shayla's (former SB) favorite smoke shop and get her a new vape. She is of course thrilled and I am so happy to do her small favors.

I get kind of a laugh when I pull into the hotel parking lot and she says "oh are spending the night? I woulda brought my PJs". Hahaha no girl only and hour or two. Checkin is easy and we are soon on the bed together making out.

At first it's a bit of dry humping and making out which frankly I love. I push my hard dick rhythmically against her pussy and we both are loving the kissing and rhythm. But soon enough I say it seems like we have on too many clothes and both get naked.

Often the girl initiates BJ but she's on her back. So I move to the side of the bed and position for Steve 2. I start fingering her and position my dick near her head, me on my knees. She takes the hint and starts a really nice slow in and out BJ.

Fingering her is great fun. She's sloppy wet from the get go and I start with my middle finger but soon have two fingers in stroking her gspot. She's left on her little no-show socks and I am enjoying watching her curl her toes as I pleasure her. Of course she is blowing me (the magic of Steve 2) and it feels absolutely great.

We must go at this for at least 15 minutes because we are both getting what we want but I'm getting a bit tired in that posture and flop to my back where she mounts up cowgirl. She has a great time riding and makes the ugliest faces like she's at a funeral so I know it's real. LOL.

After a while I switch to the Steve and give her a real pounding at the edge of the bed. It feels absolutely great but I don't threaten to blow a stack having whacked off day before and had several drinks. After a while I say "let's take a rest". I was thinking a short rest but she rolls over to spoon position like we're kinda done.

Of course here is where it's great she's a seeking girl and not a GF because I'm def not going to just be ok packing it in. So I let us both rest a bit and say "Can we do some more blowjob" and she says sure!

I position her between my legs (any of the rest of you care about symmetry? I don't like it from one side.) and she goes to town. Very credible in and out work. But then I ask her to do my balls. You can tell she doesn't do this a lot but she's earnest in her task. She's just licking away and I say you can suck too. So she does but not like the big ball suck of some girls. She's just doing a very thoughtful and gentle worshipping of my sack and it feels amazing. Like 10+ minutes of amazing and I am hard as a brick again.

I consider finishing in her mouth but honestly I want to fuck her again so I ask her to go doggie at end of bed and I slide in. She's not as wet as before so I start gentle but after a bit of fucking she is super wet again and I am pumping away.

I love that she says "You can be a lot rougher with me if you want, Steve" Ilove the way she used my name there in mid sex. It was just so endearing. And so I really start hammering. Making sure I hit hard and balls deep on every thrust. And man I can feel the build. I just keep hammering away and then pull and shoot a load on her butt and back. Niceeee!

Lovely wind down where she says "I'm sorry I'm not very good at blowjobs". Don't you love this girl? I assure her it was fine but going to let her take that humble submissive attitude and train her up just the way I like it next time!

As we wrap things up I ended up giving her $350 (sure she would have taken less but I wanna help her) which was in an envelope sight unseen. And even though she didn't even know what was in there, she said "I knew you were a nice guy Steve but I didn't know you would be this much fun. I'd love to see you again!" Again she has no idea how much I gave her and she wants to see me again thats my kinda girl. Definite repeat and hopefully a keeper for a bit.

[Steve 9696]

Out of curiosity how do you keep a roster so big? Not all, but I'd say most, of the girls I've seen are somewhat reliant on our meetings. Especially the legit college girls. I have known girls that I call once every blue moon but that is definitely the minority. I would think most would move on if they weren't getting the sugar regularly.I think we have to break this down into travel and home girls. With travel, the expectation is set from the start that I am a flyin guy and only going to be a couple times a year at best. This works fine for most girls. They are thrilled to have me show up and drop some nights out and cash on them. Maybe they have another SD more regular or a BF and I don't really care but they seem VERY happy to see me. I have girls on the roster that I met in 2018 that I still see (though that is a small number now). And the ones I really like I travel somewhere and that seals the deal. These girls are not going to be traveling in their own.

At home I am generally a one girl guy. It's just been hard to find a replacement for Shayla (and doubt I ever will that moved into the serious love category). So I've been balancing the three local girls of late. But as you say it's not always easy. Nerdy Girl and Gina are happy to get slices as they can. But had a serious convo w Fuck Bunny who wants me to be mor regular but I can't. We will see if she will take what she can get (I do like her!) or want to fade things out. She wants something regular and I thought she had that with another SD and I just filled the space but turns out she was exclusive w me (and her live in BF of seven years. LOL.). So we will see if I can keep her on the roster from time to time. But right now Gina has the ball. She’s never gonna be Shayla but I like her and the sex is good.

[FilthyBeaver]

When I've met girls away from home I've always made an effort to give them more than usual if I want to see them again. I want them to drop whatever they're doing when I return to make themselves available to me. It's mostly worked.

At home, I've always believed that once a girl fucks you she'll always be willing to fuck you. Problem is I'm only good for once maybe twice a week these days and a girl that fills that need is more than enough if she's the right girl. I've let the others go. I couldn't imagine trying to juggle 3 girls on an even semi regular basis, it just hurts my head. I'm fairly confident I can text a girl I haven't seen in a year and she'd be up for a meal and a fuck. Don't care to try it but I'm sure it'd work out.


I think we have to break this down into travel and home girls. With travel, the expectation is set from the start that I am a flyin guy and only going to be a couple times a year at best. This works fine for most girls. They are thrilled to have me show up and drop some nights out and cash on them. Maybe they have another SD more regular or a BF and I don't really care but they seem VERY happy to see me. I have girls on the roster that I met in 2018 that I still see (though that is a small number now). And the ones I really like I travel somewhere and that seals the deal. These girls are not going to be traveling in their own.

At home I am generally a one girl guy. It's just been hard to find a replacement for Shayla (and doubt I ever will that moved into the serious love category). So I've been balancing the three local girls of late. But as you say it's not always easy. Nerdy Girl and Gina are happy to get slices as they can. But had a serious convo w Fuck Bunny who wants me to be mor regular but I can't. We will see if she will take what she can get (I do like her!) or want to fade things out. She wants something regular and I thought she had that with another SD and I just filled the space but turns out she was exclusive w me (and her live in BF of seven years. LOL.). So we will see if I can keep her on the roster from time to time. But right now Gina has the ball. Shes never gonna be Shayla but I like her and the sex is good.

[AmericanPi]

When I've met girls away from home I've always made an effort to give them more than usual if I want to see them again. I want them to drop whatever they're doing when I return to make themselves available to me. It's mostly worked.
.This. 100%. I always give generously and then give more than asked. Our time is the most valuable thing at this point. A day lost to a flake is a horrible expensive waste.

You know what's a nice touch? When I take a girl to dinner, if she really liked what she ate I get her one to go. She walks out with a boxed plate of what she likes and the next day she eats it. And I always hear about it. And it helps ensure I'm always at the top of the list when my text comes in. And it's not an expensive cherry on top.

[Nachoy]

I'll add that I don't think seeking in general is for bargain hunters. There are pros there but if you're looking for a quick lay there are lots of options. If you want to dine, dance, build some kind of connection, etc then seeking is for you but it's been said a million times, it's a ton of work.Yes definitely leg work. I'm starting to figure out the routine. Dinner / Lunch then fun I'll been using pros outside seeking for quick fuck so it's a bit more adjustment for me to figure out how these semi pros work One thing I still have trouble with is photos of hot looking ones that I know are red flags possible flakes / scams / but still obsessed and hold on to the possibility that they are real and I continue to probe to see if they will meet or video chat and that's where the chat ends.

[Gfefan]

After a long hiatus, due to personal circumstances, I was out of game for last few months.

Back now and reinitiated membership. As cited by many, SA has gone downhill. Becoming increasingly difficult (later learned its same for girls too).

Signed up last week, messaged the "favorites" I had been accumulating over weeks before. Quite a few responses but many were right away $ (pros) or the babysitter story (scam).

Two progressed to meet. One was relatively fast and met quickly but seemed like she came for free lunch. Weirdly got food to go, had a drink with me and would not even let me touch her hand. Oh well, I am ok with a $75 waste.

The second one was more charming. Showed up casually in her work clothes. We had a great connection, though. Lot of talks, flirts.

We agreed to exchange test results this week and then meet up few days later. I have a feeling this is going to be a fuck fest. Can't wait. Wish me luck.

[The Cane]

After a long hiatus, due to personal circumstances, I was out of game for last few months.

Back now and reinitiated membership. As cited by many, SA has gone downhill. Becoming increasingly difficult (later learned its same for girls too).

Signed up last week, messaged the "favorites" I had been accumulating over weeks before. Quite a few responses but many were right away $ (pros) or the babysitter story (scam).

Two progressed to meet. One was relatively fast and met quickly but seemed like she came for free lunch. Weirdly got food to go, had a drink with me and would not even let me touch her hand. Oh well, I am ok with a $75 waste.

The second one was more charming. Showed up casually in her work clothes. We had a great connection, though. Lot of talks, flirts..You mean to tell me somebody showed up for a date and got food to go? Now that's a new shameful low in unacceptable behavior by these "soft-core" prostitutes! Unbelievable!

[Elvis 2008]

It is pretty funny I have a friend who wants what I have, and he tends to focus on one woman for too long. He needs to cast a wider net. I think with SBs, I only did long term with one out of every 10 seeking dates or maybe even less. I thought about the high quality women my gal hangs around and I realized the only way they would meet him is if they were looking for work.

I was pretty sure banging the boss is acceptable in Colombia but my gal has a friend who is a lawyer and we were talking about something else, and I brought it up. If my gal had not know my friend, I am not sure the asking for the friend line would have worked. When I asked the lawyer, ironically, her husband jumped in. He was like, "Oh yeah, it is fine. One, two, or three. Most of my friends do it. It is fine, perfectly fine here in Colombia". He went on for like 5 minutes, and it took all my willpower to not say, "Dude, your wife is sitting right there. You might want to shut up."

But yeah, the sexual harassment laws in Colombia per them were practically nonexistent. My friend told me to look at hiring my gal as an assistant, and I was like, "Yeah, that makes sense. " so I looked into it and was shocked at how easy it was. From my POV, I just have to have her fill out IRS form W-8 BEN. Ironically, you just have to have the person you hire fill this out every 3 years. You do not have to submit to the IRS; you just need it if audited.

Countries have independent contractor agreements that you have to follow but Colombia does not. Thing is she has to pay taxes on what she collects if the work she did was in Colombia. However, unlike in the USA where you are often required to pay taxes on what you earn abroad, if she can claim to have worked in a country without income tax (Bahamas, Cayman Islands) then she would not pay any tax. That makes a nice excuse to head out to a fun tax haven, but ultimately, the tax burden is on her and not you.

Thing is this guy has oodles of paperwork and he is paying $40,000 a year to an American. I laughed and said he could probably get 3 or 4 Colombians for that. So not only would you have more women working and you can be banging them, each would probably do a better job than what you are getting now.

I told him I could get him a translator and figure out the best places to put the help wanted ads. He wanted them to speak English but I said he could pay for English language schooling as a cheap perk. They are ample on line classes in Colombia. But I am kind of anxious to see if this works out. Has anyone ever heard of this before or done this?

Mark Cuban described the natural phase of a fad is first the innovators, then the imitators, and then the idiots. After reading the comments, I wonder if we are the idiot phase now. It sure seems like that in the USA.

[VanessasClient]

After a long hiatus, due to personal circumstances, I was out of game for last few months.

Back now and reinitiated membership. As cited by many, SA has gone downhill. Becoming increasingly difficult (later learned its same for girls too).

Signed up last week, messaged the "favorites" I had been accumulating over weeks before. Quite a few responses but many were right away $ (pros) or the babysitter story (scam).

Two progressed to meet. One was relatively fast and met quickly but seemed like she came for free lunch. Weirdly got food to go, had a drink with me and would not even let me touch her hand. Oh well, I am ok with a $75 waste.

The second one was more charming. Showed up casually in her work clothes. We had a great connection, though. Lot of talks, flirts.

We agreed to exchange test results this week and then meet up few days later. I have a feeling this is going to be a fuck fest. Can't wait. Wish me luck.Tell more more about the babysitter scam. Is that when they ask you to send them money electronically, saying they can't meet in person without funds to hire a sitter?

[AmericanPi]

Been getting a surge of messages lately from long since seen SBs. Of course I'm curious as to why. So I ask each one. It's a range. This one needs money for school which is starting. That one feels sick and needs money to see the doctor (no universal care in her country). The next one has her phone turned off.

It's funny and sad at the same time. There's a notion in the US that half the country couldn't come up with 400 dollars if they needed it. This is that population. It's like they need a quick infusion of cash and must be thinking "what about that guy from 1.5 years ago who gave me 6000 pesos or 500 bucks that one night. Maybe he'll do it again. " Honestly I don't hate this.

[FilthyBeaver]

To be fair, $400 was a lot of money to me in my early 20's. I remember losing $300 in Vegas back then and my friend freaking out because it was so much money 🤑.

Not sure I'd see any of them but reinforces my point from a few days ago.


Been getting a surge of messages lately from long since seen SBs. Of course I'm curious as to why. So I ask each one. It's a range. This one needs money for school which is starting. That one feels sick and needs money to see the doctor (no universal care in her country). The next one has her phone turned off.

It's funny and sad at the same time. There's a notion in the US that half the country couldn't come up with 400 dollars if they needed it. This is that population. It's like they need a quick infusion of cash and must be thinking "what about that guy from 1.5 years ago who gave me 6000 pesos or 500 bucks that one night. Maybe he'll do it again. " Honestly I don't hate this.

[Zzzzzz6]

Does anybody here have any ideas / suggestions / thoughts on finding sugar babies 'off the beaten path'? Preferably in first world countries, because third world countries have a different 'dynamic'.

I'm not really too satisfied with the 'quality' of women on the conventional platforms (Seeking Arrangement, SDM, MSD), so I figured: why limit myself to those platforms? I've already tried quite a few things, so I'll share the results of those 'experiments'.

My most successful attempt was a video on TikTok (LOL). Basically, I took a picture of a stack of cash in a luxury hotel room (along with a handwritten note with my username on it) and put a line of text on it along the lines of 'Are you interested in a sugar daddy?' (in my native language, however). It went 'viral' (over 10 k views within a few hours, and then it got deleted) after a lot of trial and error, and I got quite a lot of messages. I can elaborate on this approach some more, but I'll leave things here for now.

I tried 'advertising' on dating apps like Tinder and Badoo, but I feel as if this approach is pretty much impossible. First of all, your profile will barely have any visibility in the first place (unless you're significantly above average, in terms of attractiveness). Secondly, the word filter will probably catch any references to 'dating for benefits' in your biography (and if not, you'll get reported at some point).

I've also toyed with the idea of simply messaging random women on social media (Instagram, TikTok). I've never actually done this, but I think that this method could be quite successful (with the right preparation and the right approach). You'd need an Instagram account that exudes wealth and looks legitimate / trustworthy (bonus points if you're relatively young and look decent). You pick your 'target', send her a flirty message to break the ice (a specific compliment, for instance), and then you ask her how she feels about 'sugar dating'.

[AmericanPi]

I actually posted this on USASG but figured I'the post here too because people need to know.

I am traveling to a 3rd tier us city so the seeking pickings were slim. So I figured I'd try out a backup site. Signed up for Secret Benefits.

It's a different model. You pay to send messages.

One thing you learn pretty quickly is that all of those users with the green "online now" sign are totally a lie. They aren't online and they probably haven't been for a long time. They had like 40 people "online" in this midwestern city when even the great seeking only had like 6 people that had even logged in in the past 2 days.

You will be shocked, shocked I say, to learn 2 things.

1. I got a steady drumbeat of girls, like 3 per day, in that city messaging me directly. Surprise: you have to pay to read the messages.

2. Not one person ever returned a message I wrote, either directly or in response to the girls reach outs.

It doesn't take long to realize this site is 99.9% fake and just honey potting its users.

[Steve 9696]

I actually posted this on USASG but figured I'the post here too because people need to know.

I am traveling to a 3rd tier us city so the seeking pickings were slim. So I figured I'd try out a backup site. Signed up for Secret Benefits.

It's a different model. You pay to send messages.

One thing you learn pretty quickly is that all of those users with the green "online now" sign are totally a lie. They aren't online and they probably haven't been for a long time. They had like 40 people "online" in this midwestern city when even the great seeking only had like 6 people that had even logged in in the past 2 days.

You will be shocked, shocked I say, to learn 2 things.

1. I got a steady drumbeat of girls, like 3 per day, in that city messaging me directly. Surprise: you have to pay to read the messages.

2. Not one person ever returned a message I wrote, either directly or in response to the girls reach outs.

It doesn't take long to realize this site is 99.9% fake and just honey potting its users.Yeah 100% scam. In addition to all those girls messaging you, they weren't even doing it! A seeking GF of mine said she went on there and there were guys contacting her and saying thanks for contacting them! She never sent any messages! Site was sending them for her. Total 100% scam.

[VanessasClient]

I still stand behind my statement that Seeking the USA god awful, beyond any measure. The sense of entitlement and sheer vanity of most girls in America on the site, compared to girls in South America, is off the charts. This country corrupts women. I sure hope the US is not spreading it's cultural influence regarding "feminism" to the rest of the world. If so, everyone is doomed.

[Steve 9696]

Met Lila on Seeking earlier this year. Was a bit of an odd date because we met up for sushi lunch but then she had to go to the doctor w her Gran. And we met up again at 6 PM and had an amazing session at the hotel. Not the usual start!

But I could tell from minute one this girl is a ball of bubbly chatty energy and perfect for me. So a month or two later I flew her to Vegas and we had such fun. Great dinners out. Lounging in the pool. But the highlight was Latin dancing for four hours the last night. OMG it was soooo fun. Couldn't wait to hook up with this force of nature again.

As luck would have it, I was flying to her home city for a work event. She could only get off two nights from work (classic seeking girl, non pro, with second shift low wage job). But they were a great two nights.

First night we went to a vibey Asian fusion spot. I knew we were going to pickup where we left off when she got of the elevator and squealed and rushed over to kiss me. The waitress seated us same side of table which I love. And such amazing animated conversation. Nothing off limits. We talked spouses and girlfriends (her also!) and Scandallo and FKK and she was just fascinated and said she loved the idea of such places. Just an amazing force of life.

After dinner we bounce to a Latin dancing place. I love how Mexican restaurants convert to dance floors late night. And it being her hometown she knows them all. So she picks something close to my hotel and we are off. We both have vehicles so we drop mine at the hotel and she drives her monster truck! Nothing like a smokin hot Mexican blasting thru town in her monster truck. It was hot as fuck.

At the club we have an amazing time. It's just a small place but there is a local dance celeb there making the dance floor fun. We dance on the other side of the bar more intimately and what fun. She is teaching me bachata and I am catching on fast and she is thrilled. We just have a great time and kill a few ranch waters (tequila and soda) before heading to the hotel.

Lovely time in the room. We both get naked fast and it's me on top making out and grinding junk. She likes to kiss which I love. After a bit I head down to her tits which are lovely firm Bcups. She's the type where her tits are connected to her pussy so I know as I suck them hard and deep she is moaning and writhing and I know she's getting wet.

Eventually I work my way down and tease her good with kissing and licking everywhere but her pussy. And when I do finally touch her clit it's electric. I recall that she likes clit sucking / licking with gspot circles (pays to write this down!) and so that's my plan. She has quite meaty lips so I suck on them some and move them aside to give direct clit access. A lot of sucking and bottom lip slip side and she is going nuts.

I learned in vegas that I don't want her to quite get her nut. Some girls go into grateful pleaser mode after they cum. And others feel a bit exhausted and done and she is the latter and I'm having none of that! So I don't let her quite get there and instead mount up. Fuck she feels amazing. I focus mostly on missionary and the Steve as my faves. Damn I fuck her good!

I can't quite recall all the sex or the order. There is def some BJ in there. And we do 69 for quite some time. Some cowgirl and a ton of mish and the Steve. That said as some point she does tire and kinda rolls on her side facing away from me. She'the done this in vegas and I let it just die there. But not this time.

So I lightly stroke my dick against her. And then grind a bit. And put her hand on my dick. Eventually she catches her breath and knows I want to finish. So good girl that she is she rolls back over and starts a between the legs BJ. Very solid and I am directing her a bit on ball work. Eventually I feel the build and get her on consistent shaft work. That long black hair in my hands. The view of those thick natural Latina lips up and down my shaft. And boom! A beautiful CIM blast. Ahhhhhh.

We sleep the sleep of the dead and she slips out some time early morning to take her Grampa to the airport but lets me sleep on. We already have plans to meetup night after next and it's even more epic. Stay tuned! This girl is my number one seeking crush right now — and that despite my three home girl rotation and my solid euro and Brazil GFs. She's just a wonderful amazing human and joy to be with in all ways. Can't wait to see her again!

[Steve 9696]

I still stand behind my statement that Seeking the USA god awful, beyond any measure. The sense of entitlement and sheer vanity of most girls in America on the site, compared to girls in South America, is off the charts. This country corrupts women. I sure hope the US is not spreading it's cultural influence regarding "feminism" to the rest of the world. If so, everyone is doomed.Totally agree with this. Seeking is shooting fish in a barrel outside US. And shoot urself in the head in the US. But to be fair that is a generalization. Yes 99.9% suck but that. 1% can be amazing. It's just exhausting but as I said I am stunned to have three girls in my local smallish city competing for my $$/ affection so it def can work still.

[Laj505]

I have recently completed my holidays in morocco and I spent nights with total 3 girls on my entire trip.

1st girl for 2 days completely in Rabat, 2nd girl for 2 days in marekesh, and final one for 2 day Casablanca. Surprisingly all the girls have looks which is mix of arabian and spanish looks and prices for first 24 hrs is around 300 to 400 usd, as I booked for 48 hrs so got them at 600 to 700 USD. Very nice behaviour, awesome intimacy and cooperative.

I plan next to central europe and talking to some ukraine or polish girls. Ukraine girls are proposing they will come to warswas by a cab and then can fly to any european city and ask rate is 200 to 350 USD max for 24 hrs and discounts on multiple days. Looks genuine from conversation but ukraine girls ask for cab and flight fare to their paypal before leaving their country and polish girls want money or I can buy tickets for them.

For ukraine girls asking money for tickets by paypal is this normal or some scam. Can anyone elaborate.

I would love to meet the girls as they chat well and damm hot. If anyone has experience kindly write here.

[FilthyBeaver]

Don't ever send money to someone you've never met in person. I assure you they will gladly take it and never speak to you again. If you don't believe me, send me $500 and I'll send you a 10 for an entire week to do as you please. I must warn you that she hates condoms, clothes, and fancy food.

FYI, that "damn hot" girl is a guy named Boris.



For ukraine girls asking money for tickets by paypal is this normal or some scam. Can anyone elaborate.

I would love to meet the girls as they chat well and damm hot. If anyone has experience kindly write here.

[Ailton]

1st girl for 2 days completely in Rabat, 2nd girl for 2 days in marekesh, and final one for 2 day Casablanca. Surprisingly all the girls have looks which is mix of arabian and spanish looks and prices for first 24 hrs is around 300 to 400 usd, as I booked for 48 hrs so got them at 600 to 700 USD. Very nice behaviour, awesome intimacy and cooperative.Did the Hotels allow you to bring them to your room? Or did you book a second room? I would love to try out Morocco, but the hotel problem has kept me away so far.



For ukraine girls asking money for tickets by paypal is this normal or some scam. Can anyone elaborate.

I would love to meet the girls as they chat well and damm hot. If anyone has experience kindly write here.These are scams. Don't fall for it.

[Steve 9696]

So despite the fact that Seeking mostly sucks balls in the US, it can deliver the rare gem if you put in the work. And once you find the gem, repeating is easy and comfortable and frankly better than any unpaid GF you ever had and def better than the hourly escort gig. It's unique and wonderful and worth every ounce of bullshit (which is measured in pounds if not tons). Here's how day 2 went down.

Yes. She's absolutely beautiful. And yeah she's a bubbly ball of fun. But damn she's just a nice person and great GF as well. As we are planning our date that night by text, she offers to help me dump my rental car since I have an early morning flight and just drive me after the club. What a great and thoughtful idea.

So I drive to the Rental Car center at the airport and drop my car and she picks me up there. I can't tell you how fun it is to be the passenger for a change. My girl driving us all over the city catching great food and dancing.

We start at an amazing Mexican restaurant with rooftop dancing late night. It's high end Mexican with valet parking and amazing food. I change the table setup to sit adjacent again and she likes that, putting her hand on my thigh and holding hands quite a bit. Food is excellent and it's very romantic.

After dinner we head up to the rooftop. Unfortunately it's dead with only a handful of people. It's a lovely place but just no one there. Shame. Of course one thing I love about her is she is not shy. I can't tell you how many girls would be "no one else is dancing I'the be embarrassed ". Not her! We get some ranch water and a margarita and start cutting a rug right there at the bar.

Of course we can only generate so much vibe ourselves so we are considering a move when they announce last call and they are closing at midnight instead of 2. Damn. Well that turns out to be great. She's consulted her phone and lightly suggests a gay club thinking I will not be down as the old white dude but I am all over it and she is thrilled.

Side note: if you haven't taken your girl to a gay club you are missing out. They are off the hook free and fun and not to be missed. Put all your homophobe shit in a box for a night. You won't be sorry.

Anyhow we find a vibey Latin gay club on the gay bar strip part of town. Not packed (like Heaven in London will have 400 people midweek!) but prob 30 people having fun. We are one of the only pure straight couples but it's a hugely accepting place and no one even gives us a glance. I change to Red Bull vodka to make sure I can keep up w my girl and we hit the floor.

Both of us are pretty lit by now so the dancing is off the hook sexy. She does show me a few more moves and I do a credible job but mostly I dance like I don't give two fucks. As she dances a lot and has taken lessons the small compliments she gives me mean a lot. And the grinding is on point. She will turn around and back into me and I will pull her close hands on hips and we will grind and slow fuck there on the floor. Damn she's a hottie. I took some videos which I will watch daily!

Although we would both dance for hours we are painfully aware of my early AM flight and decide we best make a break to have time for lots of good fucking before the flight. But not before a bit of late night comedy. She's left the lights of her truck on and the batteries dead.

This leads to me flagging down trucks full of gay Mexicans leaving the club scene late night and trying to find jumper cables. Of course they don't speak English and the old white dude doesn't know jumper cables in Spanish so when I get one to stop she rushes over and talks animatedly in Spanish till we hit pay dirt. The guys are super nice and do all the work and voila we are back in business.

Damn back at the room we are so comfortable. We get naked and flop on the bed. Very similar routine. Making out. Damn I loooove kissing. And then awesome tit work. I know just what she likes and I love fingering her and feeling her respond. Once again quite a bit of awesome DATY but not till finish.

The fucking in Mish and the Steve is divine and her blowjob is on point tonight but damn we are drunk as fuck and eventually sorta pack it in. She goes to shower and I realize I'm not quite wanting to finish without finishing! So I just wank lightly to stay hard.

When she returns from the shower she flops on her back looking sexy as hell. I am still wanking lightly. So. I rear up on my knees between her legs so she is watching me. And after a bit I put her hand on her pussy. This is really for me but she starts the slow circles and I can see she's starting to enjoy herself. I slide in my thumb into her sloppy goodness and that is making me hard as a brick.

Despite some really enjoyable spit wabking and pussy feeling I am hard but not going to cum. But I have an inspiration. Why not go again? I move her hand and put my hard dick on her clit and continue the clit massage. It feels great but I want her around me. So I push my dick down just an inch or two and slide in.

Damn she feels fine. And my hard cock is soooo ready now. It must feel great to her also because she starts to clamp. She has what I call a paint roll style orgasm where her pelvic floor pushes down hard. I've only felt it with girls before when fingering. But she starts orgasming and it's pushing me out and making it hard to fuck!

Fortunately I keep the slip slide going long enough for her O to pass and mine build. I start to build and can feel a massive shot coming which I pull out and shoot on her stomach. Damn I am glad I started that extra round. It was a drink inspired moment of greatness and we both got a massive O in the end. Win win.

Damn this girl is solidly my new crush. Yes I have GFs that are prettier and yes some better on the sex front. But damn for a bubbly chatty dancing machine and solid fucking I am all in! Love this girl!

[Laj505]

Did the Hotels allow you to bring them to your room? Or did you book a second room? I would love to try out Morocco, but the hotel problem has kept me away so far.

These are scams. Don't fall for it.You have to book two hotel rooms but can stay in one. Also no PDA in public spaces. But inside room the girls are hot and deliver good. Complete crazy sex.

But buddy, those ukraine girls are damm good at convincing. They continuously texting and sending screenshots of flights and all. Looks like interested but I guess better not to waste money on a scam.

[Laj505]

Don't ever send money to someone you've never met in person. I assure you they will gladly take it and never speak to you again. If you don't believe me, send me $500 and I'll send you a 10 for an entire week to do as you please. I must warn you that she hates condoms, clothes, and fancy food.

FYI, that "damn hot" girl is a guy named Boris.Should I ask for video call? Few even agreed for video call.

Also looks like flying any girl is risky. Always meet them at their country and then maybe can bring them as my holiday partner.

Any opinion on polish girls? Any ukraine girls Whats their standard charges?

Who is that girl you mentioned who is a 10.

[DramaFree11]

I have recently completed my holidays in morocco and I spent nights with total 3 girls on my entire trip.

1st girl for 2 days completely in Rabat, 2nd girl for 2 days in marekesh, and final one for 2 day Casablanca. Surprisingly all the girls have looks which is mix of arabian and spanish looks and prices for first 24 hrs is around 300 to 400 usd, as I booked for 48 hrs so got them at 600 to 700 USD. Very nice behaviour, awesome intimacy and cooperative.

I plan next to central europe and talking to some ukraine or polish girls. Ukraine girls are proposing they will come to warswas by a cab and then can fly to any european city and ask rate is 200 to 350 USD max for 24 hrs and discounts on multiple days. Looks genuine from conversation but ukraine girls ask for cab and flight fare to their paypal before leaving their country and polish girls want money or I can buy tickets for them.

For ukraine girls asking money for tickets by paypal is this normal or some scam. Can anyone elaborate.

I would love to meet the girls as they chat well and damm hot. If anyone has experience kindly write here.Avoid Ukraine girls at all cost. 99% of the time it is just a scam.

As others said do not fly girls in unless you have already met a few times.

[Steve 9696]

Should I ask for video call? Few even agreed for video call.

Also looks like flying any girl is risky. Always meet them at their country and then maybe can bring them as my holiday partner.

Any opinion on polish girls? Any ukraine girls Whats their standard charges?

Who is that girl you mentioned who is a 10.Definitely never send a girl cash that you haven't met. Whether she is local or fly in doesn't matter. Never send cash ahead. Never ever. Also tho never fly a girl you haven't met and slept with. Fuck you will be together a few days. You better like each other for more than sex.

That said once you have met up and fly a girl there is nothing better. Fair warning I was even burned once on a girl I thought I knew well back in 2019. But prob 10 trips since then with flying in a girl I know and damn. It's the best.

Ps video call solves nothing. Just means she’s a real person. Doesn’t mean she’s not gonna just keep ur dough and go fuck her bf.

[Shyzai]

Hi guys,

I am not new to seeking since I have been using it-on and off-in SoCal, and when the fat women started asking for 1 k USD ppm, that's when I knew I had to bail, LOL. So I started testing the waters on Tijuana seeking and this lady asked for 25 k pesos per month. She also added that this is apart from the hotel and travel fees I would also be responsible for.

We would be meeting weekly. I can afford it since it comes down to $361 per meet, which is a bargain here, but the manner in which she just threw out the number just left a bad taste in my mouth.

https://members.seeking.com/member/398b646d-77fc-4672-be9e-d11204653be2

[Gfefan]

Exactly what happened. She was quick to respond texts. Didn't ask for $ to m&g. I followed the "let's meet and close the deal" and agreed to meet at a restaurant. She came, chatted a but, ordered food to go. I was like "hmmm. Maybe she doesn't like me" but she was upset that I closed the check and prepared to leave because she wasn't trying to communicate she doesn't like me. But, she wouldn't allow me to even touch her hand.

Weird. Cut my losses and left.


You mean to tell me somebody showed up for a date and got food to go? Now that's a new shameful low in unacceptable behavior by these "soft-core" prostitutes! Unbelievable!

[Gfefan]

They will talk sweet, setup a M&G. But the will somehow have a kid that magically appears or a grandma who needs a caretaker and ask you for $ to cover.

This has always been the case but now that I return after a long hiatus, he frequency if such scams are alarming. If seeking doesn't fix this, I am sure it's going downhill from here. For now, I have found a sweet one (1 to fuck from nearly 40+ leads) and going to keep her. Seeking is becoming more and more work as days pass. Sad but true.


Tell more more about the babysitter scam. Is that when they ask you to send them money electronically, saying they can't meet in person without funds to hire a sitter?

[Steve 9696]

Have a friend who plays internationally at clubs but doesn't do Seeking. Too afraid of blowback w the wife. But he's in Mexico looking for action in a college town. So I pulled my pics off the site and went gem mining. Snagged two hotties for him and sent over to his Whatsapps to seal the deal. Has one on for tomorrow night!

What are friends for after all?

[Steve 9696]

Wow. Seeking can be so interesting. Because it's real world. So as you know I been kinda juggling three home girls trying to find the one. It kinda settled on Gina because she's a nice compromise all around. Attractive. Sweet. Submissive. Great BJ. What's not to like.

Then tonight. I reunited with Fuck Bunny who I hadn't seen in two months. And damn I like that girl! Yes her kissing and BJ are mediocre. But we met up for a platonic reunion just to reconnect and DAMN I like that girl. Solid nine with spectacular dcups on a petite Mexicans frame. And we literally chatted and laughed and drank for three hours with no sexual connection except making out twice at the bathrooms. LOL. And it was an amazing. Best three hours ever with a girl with her clothes on. She's really keeper.

Got to make her my prime. No question. Going to meetup and fuck Sunday. Damn I like this girl!

[HumbleHal]

They will talk sweet, setup a M&G. But they will somehow have a kid that magically appears or a grandma who needs a caretaker and ask you for $ to cover.
I simply hang up the phone if they want money to meet. Not worth wasting my time, it never ends. If you agree to help them with gas money, then they need money for a babysitter. And not $30, more like $200. So best just to hang up the phone.

Your time has to be worth more than theirs anyway, are you supposed to be the one supporting them financially because you earn more? When I have told them that I get more argument, so JUST HANG UP!

[VanessasClient]

For ukraine girls asking money for tickets by paypal is this normal or some scam. Can anyone elaborate.

I would love to meet the girls as they chat well and damm hot. If anyone has experience kindly write here.NEVER send money to a woman you haven't had sex with before, and are established with. If you want to take that level of risk, then you tell them to send you their passport, and you will buy the ticket for them, and the cost of getting from their house to the airport is their responsibility. And no, they cannot have cash because they don't have a suitcase to travel with, or for any other "bullshit" excuse.

She can't do anything with a ticket in her name, other than possibly take the flight and attempt to dodge you on arrival. Which, if they are as financially strapped as they appear / claim, that would be stupid. They would be stranded in a foreign country with barely enough money for food and uber / taxi. Plus you could immediately cancel the hotel reservation and end the return portion of the round trip flight. They would be quite thoroughly butt fucked at that point; possibly sleeping at the airport and asking for food handouts from strangers who might not even speak their language.

Even if it is a refundable ticket, and she cancels it, the money goes back to your credit card, and not to her as cash.

NEVER EVER EVER send cash to someone you don't have a physical rapport with. If they don't have the wherewithal to find someone to watch their kid, get basic travel supplies, or anyone else they would request money for, then you need to move on to the next girl.

I have sent money to girls I've hooked up with in the past, and the results have been mixed. Some were honest and kept their word; others were cheats. But you have to be prepared to lose the money either way; just like investing in a high risk security.

[AmericanPi]

Wise words you wrote.

The few times I was stupid enough to send an advance gift I regretted it. Even if I wasn't breadcrumbed, which I was, it would've set the precedent that that's how things go. Pay first and then we'll talk about what's next.

The other many times I said I'm sorry I don't or can't send digital cash before I meet someone, I was rewarded for it. Eg a girl immediately blocks you and you realize oh it was in fact a scam.

Wisdom is the ability to learn from the mistakes of others and not need to learn them yourself.


NEVER send money to a woman you haven't had sex with before, and are established with. If you want to take that level of risk, then you tell them to send you their passport, and you will buy the ticket for them, and the cost of getting from their house to the airport is their responsibility. And no, they cannot have cash because they don't have a suitcase to travel with, or for any other "bullshit" excuse.

She can't do anything with a ticket in her name, other than possibly take the flight and attempt to dodge you on arrival. Which, if they are as financially strapped as they appear / claim, that would be stupid. They would be stranded in a foreign country with barely enough money for food and uber / taxi. Plus you could immediately cancel the hotel reservation and end the return portion of the round trip flight. They would be quite thoroughly butt fucked at that point; possibly sleeping at the airport and asking for food handouts from strangers who might not even speak their language.

Even if it is a refundable ticket, and she cancels it, the money goes back to your credit card, and not to her as cash..

[Gfefan]

Wise words.

I do NOT send money in advance at all. Unless I have known, met many times and have a connection with the girl.

My best ever in Spain. We know each other for nearly 3. 5 years now. Met, dated, and fucked many times in first two years. Then, I moved.

These days, while traveling, I go to Spain to see her but that is more like once in six months.

Last year, I learned from. Her friend that she had a minor accident and insurance did not cover about 1 k EUR. Lot for her but this girl never asked me.

I sent it over without she asking me. And she first refused before reluctantly agreeing to keep it on the condition that it's a loan and she will return it. As we were on different continents, I said OK andshe used it for paying debt.

3 months later, when we met, this Cutie gave me 500 EUR and said she will pay remainder when we meet next.

I left the entire 500 plus her allowance in her bag beforei left Spain. I later was chided for doing so. She simply wants to return my money.

I am going to take it next time we meet because she doesn't want to feel indebted to someone. I understand that sentiment.

But, boy, I must admit. The tender girl friend experience with her only keeps getting better and as a result our sex keeps getting better. If I met her more frequently, I think we will lose it. So, deliberately keeping it once every 4 months or so.

Best girl, best sex, and she will do me even if I don't pay her.


NEVER send money to a woman you haven't had sex with before, and are established with. If you want to take that level of risk, then you tell them to send you their passport, and you will buy the ticket for them, and the cost of getting from their house to the airport is their responsibility. And no, they cannot have cash because they don't have a suitcase to travel with, or for any other "bullshit" excuse.

She can't do anything with a ticket in her name, other than possibly take the flight and attempt to dodge you on arrival. Which, if they are as financially strapped as they appear / claim, that would be stupid. They would be stranded in a foreign country with barely enough money for food and uber / taxi. Plus you could immediately cancel the hotel reservation and end the return portion of the round trip flight. They would be quite thoroughly butt fucked at that point; possibly sleeping at the airport and asking for food handouts from strangers who might not even speak their language.

Even if it is a refundable ticket, and she cancels it, the money goes back to your credit card, and not to her as cash.

NEVER EVER EVER send cash to someone you don't have a physical rapport with. If they don't have the wherewithal to find someone to watch their kid, get basic travel supplies, or anyone else they would request money for, then you need to move on to the next girl.

I have sent money to girls I've hooked up with in the past, and the results have been mixed. Some were honest and kept their word; others were cheats. But you have to be prepared to lose the money either way; just like investing in a high risk security.

[Indy69]

For ukraine girls asking money for tickets by paypal is this normal or some scam. Can anyone elaborate.

I would love to meet the girls as they chat well and damm hot. If anyone has experience kindly write here.Echo the thoughts of others here. Never, ever, ever, no matter how hot the girl, how harrowing the apparent bind she is in give her money in advance for anything. Unless you have a very well established relationship / arrangement. And even then. I've made the mistake of giving advances to girls I thought I knew and who I'd fucked multiple times, only for them to ghost me.

As for Ukraine girls, I just wouldn't entertain them. Unless they are in your country and down to meet, trying to set something up involving international travel for a first meet is just going to be a waste of your time, unless you are the one doing the travelling and the girl is for your entertainment. Hence I quickly bin Ukraine based girls who come into my matches / orbit. Both my time and my money are valuable to me.

[NoBuglyFitches]

She can't do anything with a ticket in her name Depending on the ticket and airline rules, if she misses the flight or cancels it, she might get flight credit -- in her name. I. e. It doesn't go back to your card. Then the scammer can cash it out by buying another plane ticket for someone else. I've had girls ask for train tickets and I assumed it's some scam, then I found the explanation on reddit.

[VanessasClient]

Depending on the ticket and airline rules, if she misses the flight or cancels it, she might get flight credit -- in her name. I. e. It doesn't go back to your card. Then the scammer can cash it out by buying another plane ticket for someone else. I've had girls ask for train tickets and I assumed it's some scam, then I found the explanation on reddit.I guess that's possible, but if you are the authority on the ticket, that would make it very difficult. If the flight credit went back to my email address, I would still have the redemption even if it's in her name. If someone did something like that, then I would sell her passport info on the dark web to help cover the loss, then file a chargeback with my credit card company. I can see a scammer potentially poking holes in a plane ticket, but it's way less risky than sending cash.

[Steve 9696]

I think we all agree. Never ever send money or tickets to a girl you don't know. But a couple cautionary tales about being too trusting with girls you DO know.

I spend a weekend with a seeking girl in Buenos Aires. She was amazing. I dug her. She dug me. It was the real deal. So I flew her to London. And once she got there she dumped me. Had some other guy in BA put her up at a $600/ night hotel so she wouldn't stay with me. And she fucked guys all over town after I flew her there! What a biatch. Thought I knew her. Was wrong.

And more recently. A girl I have know for five years. She borrowed 200. Paid it back. She borrowed 500 paid it back. Now she's into me for 2000 and has ghosted me. Thought I knew her. I was wrong.

Now that said these are a couple fails amongst a mountain of successes. But you never even know with girls you know. And you sure as he'll don't know with girls you don't know. So just keep your wits about you and enjoy the ride!

[FilthyBeaver]

This kind of shit happens all the time. I would bat a lash over it. If they ever ask for something above and beyond our status quo, I make it clear it's a gift. Anything else and you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. Or worse, losing someone you really like.

Short on rent money? Fine so long as it's occasional. Need an advance on the next liaison? Fine. When and if they try to remind me the next time we meet that I have credit I give it to them anyway. I pat myself on the back and know I've got an honest one.

I don't let anything come up that I don't mind losing. One time I met a girl for dinner and it went awesome. She was hurting for tuition money and I agreed to give her what she was short to just have dinner with me (which was dumb but I don't regret because we ended up having a good time). We were supposed to continue at my place but she ended up getting too drunk to drive herself. Next day we meet again and I offer her a 4 digit sum to spend the weekend with me. Mostly knowing she needed the help and she was cute enough to really do it for me. She agrees, I give her the money, and a few hours later she "feels sick" and wants to go home then proceeds to ghost me. Oh well, cost of doing business. If I let it upset me I'd miss out on the positive experiences and there are way more of those.


I think we all agree. Never ever send money or tickets to a girl you don't know. But a couple cautionary tales about being too trusting with girls you DO know.

I spend a weekend with a seeking girl in Buenos Aires. She was amazing. I dug her. She dug me. It was the real deal. So I flew her to London. And once she got there she dumped me. Had some other guy in BA put her up at a $600/ night hotel so she wouldn't stay with me. And she fucked guys all over town after I flew her there! What a biatch. Thought I knew her. Was wrong.

And more recently. A girl I have know for five years. She borrowed 200. Paid it back. She borrowed 500 paid it back. Now she's into me for 2000 and has ghosted me. Thought I knew her. I was wrong.

Now that said these are a couple fails amongst a mountain of successes. But you never even know with girls you know. And you sure as he'll don't know with girls you don't know. So just keep your wits about you and enjoy the ride!

[HumbleHal]

At a restaurant, tonight I met a fatty who posted that her body type was "slim" and some of her photos were large in the butt. I passed on her a month ago, recently she said she had had "liposuction" a few weeks ago, another lie. On the way to dinner she called me lying that she was almost out of gas and was wondering if I had Venmo or a cash app to give her some gas money, another lie. I said no, I do not do those. So she wanted to change the restaurant and meet closer to her house, claiming she only had 20 miles left on her gas, another red flag.

I met her at the restaurant and saw the same fat belly. Said she was 33 years old, in person, when her profile said 28, another lie. She said she wanted $500 PPM and we had discussed it before and she had come down from $700, which was a lie. I said the most I would do for PPM was $400. Then she argued, the women in your county get $1,000. She asked me why I would not do another hundred more? I said I did not value it at that. I did not call her a fatty nor mention her weight, but should have been honest with her. Then she tried to get $450. I said "no. " She got up and left the table. I enjoyed finishing eating her pizza and cancelled the desert she ordered. The bill came to $57 and I left a $7 tip. What a Heffer.

My best decisions are the women I pass on! It is necessary to meet them at a restaurant to evaluate them, just like a job interview. So on the way home I texted my regular, a slim tall blonde, who is coming over tomorrow for $200, I have been with her for about 5 years. I would post photos, but do not have permission of the fatty or my slim regular.