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Mursenary
12-14-20, 00:50
Partly because people exaggerated, partly because other countries followed. Sweden was very progressive in many areas in the first decades after the war. It's not as if Sweden was lightyears 'ahead' but I think there were sections of society in Southern Europe and the Americas that was a little bit more conservative. IMO, that's long gone.Do you mean to say that Swedish girls are less sexually open now than before or that Southern Europeans and Americans are more so these days?

Mursenary
12-14-20, 00:56
A Swedish guy makes a response which is informative: "If you meet someone like super drunk and you have hilarious fun for five hours, if you meet them the next day, you won't say Hello".Side note, this reminds me of a conversation the other day where someone said that when Japanese coworkers go out and get drinks, while drunk, it is common to bond or even say insulting things to each other like telling off your boss. The next day at work, it's as if nothing happened.

Wonder how much truth there is to this phenomenon.

ShooBree
12-14-20, 04:06
For above 2019 study, almost two-thirds of young Swedish women have not had casual sex in the last twelve months. Nevertheless, the fact that someone has an occasional ONS ("being easy") does not necessarily mean that said person is not living a somewhat or mostly solitary life. ONS is by definition a way to NOT let people get emotionally close you, which aligns with the Scandinavian stereotype. You see them once, and then keep them at a distance. Also having an occasional ONS does not necessarily mean that Scandinavians are comfortable with random strangers breaching their infamous one meter physical distance bubble. Let's say a girl has had four ONS within the last twelve months. That is four strangers that she either found super attractive (or she was inebriated and in the mood). Every other Tinder date, she could have kept at a comfortable one meter distance. Conversely, Spanish and Italian are easier to befriend and they do "la bise" (cheek-to-cheek kiss) with people they barely know, but they are definitely not generally known for as many ONS as the more sexually liberated Scandinavians.LMFAO, you're most def overthinking it. I wonder what planet, I mean country, you're from.

BTW, Swedes, Danes and Norwegians are not the same. Lumping them together as a homogeneous group is a sign of ignorance. Finland isn't even a part of Scandinavia. Please, address the polar bear problem in Scandinavia! You're our expert, the YouTube professor.

Mursenary
12-14-20, 04:16
And you know I am wrong how? I know at least in one case (my friend) hospital didn't disclose that he was heavy user of drugs.Do you assume everyone is a drug abuser until proven otherwise? Or just hospitalized patients?

Doesn't matter anyway as if they are drug users, what matters is how damaged their livers are as a result of the drug abuse. And as stated, we know their liver functions after initial labs in the ED. Your scenario is both overly judgmental and irrelevant.

Turgid
12-14-20, 13:35
The Swedish Erotica line of loops probably had a lot to do with it. Although, I don't know that the production of these movies had anything to do with Sweden at all. In fact their hugest star, who went by the stage name of "Seka", was / is an American woman originally from Virginia LOL!

https://www.hotmovies.com/series/28650/Swedish-Erotica-8mm-/I remember Seka well; she came on the scene when I was just getting seriously into porn in the late 70's. I actually always thought she was American. However, I'm talking about the 60's. The porn I saw back then was genuine Scandinavian porn, especially Swedish. I never saw any US porn until much later sometime in the 70´s. Would love to have gone to Sweden back then. My first trip to Europe was in 1973 with family. We did not go to Scandinavia but had a blast watching lots of porn in Amsterdam's red light district with my brother. We did not have the money to sample hookers.

The Cane
12-14-20, 14:01
I remember Seka well; she came on the scene when I was just getting seriously into porn in the late 70's. I actually always thought she was American. However, I'm talking about the 60's. The porn I saw back then was genuine Scandinavian porn, especially Swedish. I never saw any US porn until much later sometime in the 70s. Would love to have gone to Sweden back then. My first trip to Europe was in 1973 with family. We did not go to Scandinavia but had a blast watching lots of porn in Amsterdam's red light district with my brother. We did not have the money to sample hookers.Swedes have the rep (or had it), but I think the Danes may have been even more liberal with respect to sex and porn. I know there was a time when you could buy hardcore porn on the street, like you were buying a newspaper out of a coin machine haha! Don't know if that's still true.

Sebastiane
12-14-20, 17:33
I am sad that Palace is still closed. -- its been over 6 months. I'm glad I was able to go last spring before the shutdown due to Covid19. I hope it doesn't shut down completely. That would be a terrible loss!

Any idea if FKK clubs in Hessen will likely reopen by end of Jan 2021?

McAdonis
12-14-20, 17:39
LMFAO, you're most def overthinking it. I wonder what planet, I mean country, you're from. You're our expert, the YouTube professor.You fail to address the fundamental questions. Swedish had no rules to limit their social contact. So if Swedish had been crowding each other and breathing on one another sans mask inside enclosed, indoor spaces, shouldn't Sweden have reached natural herd immunity the first few months of pandemic? Sweden's cumulative cases on October 11th was at 100075 and by December 10th it reached 320098. We are over 300 days into the pandemic. Yet more than two-thirds of Sweden's cases came within the last 60 days? Also Sweden hit it's daily death record on December 2nd.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden

Ararat
12-14-20, 17:49
Do you mean to say that Swedish girls are less sexually open now than before or that Southern Europeans and Americans are more so these days?Mostly the latter.

ExpatLover
12-14-20, 21:50
Prediction right now are rather worthless. When rates have gone down for a couple of weeks in a row, due to vaccinations or other, it can be interesting to start speculating. But sadly everything looks dark at the moment.Vaccination like wearing a mask, social distancing is a tool, at the end of the end what matters for the politicians to take decisions is the number of deaths and the how the healthcare are loaded, even the vaccine is very efficient if mid of 2021 the number of deaths is skyrocketing the life will not return to normal, some specialist are saying now that even 2021 Christmas will not be a normal one.

Mursenary
12-14-20, 22:37
You fail to address the fundamental questions. Swedish had no rules to limit their social contact. So if Swedish had been crowding each other and breathing on one another sans mask inside enclosed, indoor spaces, shouldn't Sweden have reached natural herd immunity the first few months of pandemic? Sweden's cumulative cases on October 11th was at 100075 and by December 10th it reached 320098. We are over 300 days into the pandemic. Yet more than two-thirds of Sweden's cases came within the last 60 days? Also Sweden hit it's daily death record on December 2nd.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/swedenShoeBree rubbish aside, what's impressive here is the quick rise and fall of their daily deaths. Their death curve showed a steep rising slope but an equally steep downward slope. Every other European nation that's on the decline is experiencing a much more shallow down curve, if there is even a down curve at all.

I wonder if it is more a reflection of culture or government policy response? Or perhaps a testament to Swedish health and healthcare? (Enquiring about the latter two particularly because their case rate has not gone down in the same manner).

Mursenary
12-14-20, 22:46
Mostly the latter.I can definitely say that varies between regions and cultural sub groups. White American women from the Deep South and varieties of brown skinned immigrants still often demand a degree of relationship commitment. For promiscuity, I've always had a much easier time with women from the Northeast and even Midwest. My disdain for attitudes of west coast women have prevented me from speaking with much knowledge about their promiscuity in the bedroom.

Smoke Light
12-14-20, 23:23
I can definitely say that varies between regions and cultural sub groups. White American women from the Deep South and varieties of brown skinned immigrants still often demand a degree of relationship commitment. For promiscuity, I've always had a much easier time with women from the Northeast and even Midwest. My disdain for attitudes of west coast women have prevented me from speaking with much knowledge about their promiscuity in the bedroom.One could write books about female sexuality, its ambiguity and complexity. Unless a man is willing to risk his emotional well-being and psychological health, better leave such discussion to professional therapists. Man's sexuality, on the other hand, is defined by one simple question: do I have an erection?

McAdonis
12-14-20, 23:41
ShoeBree rubbish aside, what's impressive here is the quick rise and fall of their daily deaths. Their death curve showed a steep rising slope but an equally steep downward slope. Every other European nation that's on the decline is experiencing a much more shallow down curve, if there is even a down curve at all.

I wonder if it is more a reflection of culture or government policy response? Or perhaps a testament to Swedish health and healthcare? (Enquiring about the latter two particularly because their case rate has not gone down in the same manner).Sweden reports data differently so final tallies are not in yet according to this:


In the data that we present on Our World in Data, which comes directly from the European CDC, deaths in Sweden are shown by date of death, while deaths in other countries are shown by date of report.

This matters because it takes a number of days until all deaths for a particular day are reported. In practice this means that Sweden might today only report 10 deaths for yesterday, but once reporting is complete the death count for that day might increase to 40.

The death counts for the last 10 days in Sweden should therefore always be interpreted as an incomplete count of the deaths that occurred in this period.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-sweden-death-reporting..Clarification for previous post: I pulled daily death data from the graph that appears when you type "Sweden coronavirus deaths", which reports Johns Hopkins University data. On December 2nd Sweden set a daily record with 174 deaths. Previous daily death record occurred on April 7th and April 14th with 115 deaths.

Mursenary
12-15-20, 00:31
One could write books about female sexuality, its ambiguity and complexity. Unless a man is willing to risk his emotional well-being and psychological health, better leave such discussion to professional therapists. Man's sexuality, on the other hand, is defined by one simple question: do I have an erection?Or we can have casual but fruitful discussions on an public internet forum.

ShooBree
12-15-20, 00:35
You fail to address the fundamental questions. Swedish had no rules to limit their social contact. So if Swedish had been crowding each other and breathing on one another sans mask inside enclosed, indoor spaces, shouldn't Sweden have reached natural herd immunity the first few months of pandemic? Sweden's cumulative cases on October 11th was at 100075 and by December 10th it reached 320098. We are over 300 days into the pandemic. Yet more than two-thirds of Sweden's cases came within the last 60 days? Also Sweden hit it's daily death record on December 2nd.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/swedenPeople modify their behavior in a pandemic regardless of the laws and I consider the presented number of new cases to be nothing but the tip of the iceberg. Especially in the beginning of the pandemic when access to testing ranged between non-existing and extremely scarce. That became extremely obvious to me when I compared the death rate between different countries.

That's my view of it anyways.

ShooBree
12-15-20, 00:40
Translation: "I'm taking my ball and I'm going home."

You got beat, accept it like a man.You're a clueless demagogue. I see no point in having a pseudo-discussion with anyone, especially not with a liar like you.

Sirioja
12-15-20, 01:01
One could write books about female sexuality, its ambiguity and complexity. Unless a man is willing to risk his emotional well-being and psychological health, better leave such discussion to professional therapists. Man's sexuality, on the other hand, is defined by one simple question: do I have an erection?Women like pleasure, orgasms, then they ask for again with no headache. For me, pleasure in mind is so much more enjoyable than only little death.

Ararat
12-15-20, 06:48
The headline is that it's the deadliest November since the Spanish Flu.

"A total of 8,088 deaths were recorded in Sweden last month, corresponding to an excess mortality of 10 percent compared to the average between 2015 and 2019, according to Statistics Sweden. ".

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-sweden-deadliest-november-spanish-flu.html

Gino02
12-15-20, 08:19
Swedes have the rep (or had it), but I think the Danes may have been even more liberal with respect to sex and porn. I know there was a time when you could buy hardcore porn on the street, like you were buying a newspaper out of a coin machine haha! Don't know if that's still true.You can still buy a hardcore porn magazine from most newsstalls (pre-Covid) or at most gas stations in Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Hungary and many other countries in Europe. Some gas stations in Spain still sells hardcore porn videos, though I never saw anyone buying one LOL. Oh and technically and legally speaking, you can not only walk around naked, but also have full on sex in most public places in Spain as its protected by some weird constitutional rights, except for few regions that recently banned it with some other opposite interpretation of it. That's why tons of nudists and swingers from UK and Europe head to Spanish Gran Canaria all winter.

McAdonis
12-15-20, 12:59
The headline is that it's the deadliest November since the Spanish Flu.

"A total of 8,088 deaths were recorded in Sweden last month, corresponding to an excess mortality of 10 percent compared to the average between 2015 and 2019, according to Statistics Sweden. ".

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-sweden-deadliest-november-spanish-flu.htmlI do not want to minimize November 2020, but that headline is scarier than the rest of the article. It says that per capita more people died in November 2010 than November 2020. The surge of new cases seemed to started late-October and the current number of new cases now is several times higher than they were in late-October, so the fear is that December 2020 could be much worse than past Decembers for Sweden: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102203/cumulative-coronavirus-cases-in-sweden/.

Smoke Light
12-15-20, 18:01
Women like pleasure, orgasms, then they ask for again with no headache. For me, pleasure in mind is so much more enjoyable than only little death.Brothels are perfect places for hot romantic dinners, dating, weddings, and honeymoons. No headache! It's by design.

"And only those who have been on this verge know life. Everything else is just a pastime, repeating the same task. Without coming to the edge, without looking into the abyss, a person will grow old and die, never knowing what he was doing in this world. " - Paulo Coelho.

Mursenary
12-15-20, 18:50
You're a clueless demagogue. I see no point in having a pseudo-discussion with anyone, especially not with a liar like you.Cool story bro.

Pistons
12-15-20, 20:01
LMFAO, you're most def overthinking it. I wonder what planet, I mean country, you're from.

BTW, Swedes, Danes and Norwegians are not the same. Lumping them together as a homogeneous group is a sign of ignorance. Finland isn't even a part of Scandinavia. Please, address the polar bear problem in Scandinavia! You're our expert, the YouTube professor.I have to agree here. That analysis by McAdonis is probably the least accurate description I have read by him in any post here on the forum. For one, he claims Scandinavians have more one night stands than Iberians. Heck, every time I am in Spain I hit up random girls for one night stands in normal discos. Not even close to a 100% rate in Scandinavia!

But I believe the main thing here is that when you meet someone you are not scared of meeting again the next day, be it an exchange student or a foreigner, it becomes a lot easier. In Europe, some Asian women are also seen as exotic. In Latin countries, a blonde person is seen as exotic etc etc. In prostitute hotspots like Romania and Thailand, the non-prostitutes tries to make up for the liberal nature of the prostitutes, so they turn even more conservative than the averages in neighbouring non-prostitute hotspots! Mainly due to the influence of local men's protectionism because they have a fear of loosing out.

Ararat
12-15-20, 20:08
I do not want to minimize November 2020, but that headline is scarier than the rest of the article. It says that per capita more people died in November 2010 than November 2020. The surge of new cases seemed to started late-October and the current number of new cases now is several times higher than they were in late-October, so the fear is that December 2020 could be much worse than past Decembers for Sweden: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102203/cumulative-coronavirus-cases-in-sweden/.Sure, I added some info from the article because it is true that November, although worse than virtually any year, wasn't some kind of freak show. I just hope December won't be as bad as feared but the reports are that hospitals are full.

Pistons
12-15-20, 21:48
The covid vaccine targets the Syncytin-1 gene of the spike protein on the virus. The same gene is what creates the female uterus.

In other words, the entire vaccination program in relation to covid-19 is one massive depopulation experiment!

Thank me later for the warnings, but I fear for many of the sauna girls who may be forced to take this vaccination in order to work.

And women having sex with a man who has been vaccinated, may also become infertile. So I will not vaccinate myself.

The Pfizer CEO just admitted this. Indirectly of course. And now the internet corps of liars are full out desperate regaring the coverup of this issue!

ShinyCrazy
12-15-20, 23:27
Anyone want to make a guess as to which countries will be the first to see resumption of international mongering? It will likely be countries that have early access to the vaccines and the organizational skills to implement a country-wide vaccination program (like Germany, Austria, Switzerland) or countries that are so dependent on tourism that they will re-open to vaccinated foreigners before their own population is fully vaccinated (Thailand).

Possible early post vaccine travel:

London, UK.

Berlin, Germany.

Zurich, Switzerland.

Singapore.

Montreal / Quebec, Canada.

Israel.

Bangkok, Thailand.

Your guesses? Should buy plane tickets to London for late summer? Or am I fantasizing?

Mursenary
12-16-20, 00:03
Funny to see how serial posters here have issues with reality:
Figured this post also applies to posts here. It seems that Ararat is the only Scandinavian poster who is not living in KooKoo Land.

Let's factcheck the ridiculous vaccine claim:

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9856420671

ExpatLover
12-16-20, 00:43
Anyone want to make a guess as to which countries will be the first to see resumption of international mongering? It will likely be countries that have early access to the vaccines and the organizational skills to implement a country-wide vaccination program (like Germany, Austria, Switzerland) or countries that are so dependent on tourism that they will re-open to vaccinated foreigners before their own population is fully vaccinated (Thailand).

Possible early post vaccine travel:

London, UK.

Berlin, Germany.

Zurich, Switzerland.

Singapore.

Montreal / Quebec, Canada.

Israel.

Bangkok, Thailand.

Your guesses? Should buy plane tickets to London for late summer? Or am I fantasizing?Do you really believe that the vaccine will be efficient? Even it will work it will not be better than the flue vaccine and we still have a lot of flue cases every year. I will not take any ARN vaccine that is for sure and so many people will do the same. At the end what matters is the number of deaths and as long they are high life will not come back to normal.

Mursenary
12-16-20, 01:13
Heck, every time I am in Spain I hit up random girls for one night stands in normal discos.Bahahahaha. Almost died laughing.

Mursenary
12-16-20, 03:14
Do you really believe that the vaccine will be efficient? Even it will work it will not be better than the flue vaccine and we still have a lot of flue cases every year.There is no way you can know this. Even clinically-trained research scientists cannot know for sure; however, every piece of data suggests the opposite of what you predict.

Your scientifically-naive claims and their promotion thereof will be the biggest detriment to how effective the vaccine will be in practice.

Sirioja
12-16-20, 05:51
Anyone want to make a guess as to which countries will be the first to see resumption of international mongering? It will likely be countries that have early access to the vaccines and the organizational skills to implement a country-wide vaccination program (like Germany, Austria, Switzerland) or countries that are so dependent on tourism that they will re-open to vaccinated foreigners before their own population is fully vaccinated (Thailand).

Possible early post vaccine travel:

London, UK.

Berlin, Germany.

Zurich, Switzerland.

Singapore.

Montreal / Quebec, Canada.At the moment, Germany with more than 20.000 cases per day and Switzerland are closing. Despite vaccine, London is also closing. I'm afraid Winter to be a bit complicated. At the moment, ski is closed in France, Italy and Germany and Merkel asked for closing everywhere.

Sirioja
12-16-20, 17:09
There is no way you can know this. Even clinically-trained research scientists cannot know for sure; however, every piece of data suggests the opposite of what you predict.

Your scientifically-naive claims and their promotion thereof will be the biggest detriment to how effective the vaccine will be in practice.How vaccines could prevent to catch and give, still spreading, if they can be efficient enough to protect from bad disease.

Sirioja
12-16-20, 19:48
At the moment, Germany with more than 20.000 cases per day and Switzerland are closing. Despite vaccine, London is also closing. I'm afraid Winter to be a bit complicated. At the moment, ski is closed in France, Italy and Germany and Merkel asked for closing everywhere.When Trump and Sweden think they are stronger, Germany is now under covid storm with more than 1000 deaths yesterday. We will have to wait for a while for German brothels.

Mursenary
12-17-20, 00:23
How vaccines could prevent to catch and give, still spreading, if they can be efficient enough to protect from bad disease.Quick immunology lesson:

Normal events:

*Exposure to virus* / over several days, virus proliferates and multiplies / over a few more days, person shows symptoms / over the next week, patient carries high viral load, spreading to others / over another week to weeks, person remains symptomatic and infectious / Meanwhile, body is slowly making antibodies for the first time to virus, a process that may take several weeks.

(Infectious time: days to weeks).

Vaccinated person:

*Vaccination*/ body sees foreign particle, some immune cells make antibodies, immune system selects for immune cells that recognize virus and other immune cells that make antibodies to virus (memory cells)/ Memory cells lay dormant.

*Exposure to virus*/ over several days, virus begins to proliferate (person may be infectious) / memory immune cells immediately recognize virus and tells antibody producing memory cells to proliferate and make antibodies / virus proliferation is contained within days / patient no longer contagious.

(Infectious time: zero to days).

Summary:

Contagious time is reduced from weeks to only days (if they even become infectious at all).

Thank You for coming to my TedTalk.

Kuni042
12-17-20, 00:31
Yup. Let's save the money, renovate our homes, and try to get exercise too.

Its not the time to fuck around nor to make many friends either.


When Trump and Sweden think they are stronger, Germany is now under covid storm with more than 1000 deaths yesterday. We will have to wait for a while for German brothels.

Sirioja
12-17-20, 04:40
Yup. Let's save the money, renovate our homes, and try to get exercise too.

Its not the time to fuck around nor to make many friends either.When much too many deaths in my France, I don't say like US or Swedish we are right about virus, and I'm very sorry for what happen now in Germany, because when Trump is just crazy, I know Germany tried their best to control virus and succeeded for first wave, but second is much stronger there. When Germany helped France for first wave, I wish we will help back if needed. And pretty sure, after US thanksgiving killer, we will have after Christmas and Sylvester killer in cold January for third wave, South Korea already have and their worst wave. Vaccines should start on beginning of new year in France and Germany for old, weak and medical people, but won t stop spreading. Even I hate, because can t see women beautiful faces, but mask may be more efficient versus spreading, when we don t even know for how long vaccines will work, when some caught several times virus. When more and more violence at home, more and more suicides, more and more people becoming poor, and no ski for me, so big frustration. What is just funny for me at the moment is just before brexit start, so many UK running staying card to be allowed to stay in France, for a better life as they say. Of course, they are welcome in beautiful with good way of life France. NL now follow Germany to try to fight virus, this is our Europe.

Sirioja
12-17-20, 09:15
Quick immunology lesson:

Normal events:

*Exposure to virus* / over several days, virus proliferates and multiplies / over a few more days, person shows symptoms / over the next week, patient carries high viral load, spreading to others / over another week to weeks, person remains symptomatic and infectious / Meanwhile, body is slowly making antibodies for the first time to virus, a process that may take several weeks..US are starting vaccine, UK already started, Germany will start before end of December and Western Europe will follow them, when vaccines will be only for old, weak, medical and rich people, then we will see for real about spreading, when young will think again: now with vaccine for at risk people, no more risk, and spreading again, when I don't think old and weak are those who are spreading the most. Should need to vaccine most of population to slow spreading, if vaccine really efficient lasting in time. Should take a while for this.

Mursenary
12-17-20, 16:02
US are starting vaccine, UK already started, Germany will start before end of December and Western Europe will follow them, when vaccines will be only for old, weak, medical and rich people, then we will see for real about spreading, when young will think again: now with vaccine for at risk people, no more risk, and spreading again, when I don't think old and weak are those who are spreading the most. Should need to vaccine most of population to slow spreading, if vaccine really efficient lasting in time. Should take a while for this.Yes, we are likely going to have a long winter with late March / April looking to show the first signs of normalcy. I wouldn't make any international travel plans before May, June to be safe.

Wiild
12-17-20, 16:14
Yes, I believe vaccines will be efficient. After lets say 4 weeks of successful vaccination of medical personnel and older / risk groups then we will se large drop in number of deaths and therefor the pressure on hospitals will drop, which is so important. Then when vaccination of age groups 60, 50, 40 begin we will see gradual decrease in spreading.

To the comparison vs flu you should add that better hygienic practices (washing hands) and social distancing has led to flu almost being at zero levels this season. Most of these practices will continue. In total I think we have reasons to be optimistic about everything looking rather positive in February or March 2021.


Do you really believe that the vaccine will be efficient? Even it will work it will not be better than the flue vaccine and we still have a lot of flue cases every year.

ExpatLover
12-17-20, 18:15
When much too many deaths in my France, I don't say like US or Swedish we are right about virus, and I'm very sorry for what happen now in Germany, because when Trump is just crazy, I know Germany tried their best to control virus and succeeded for first wave, but second is much stronger there. When Germany helped France for first wave, I wish we will help back if needed. And pretty sure, after US thanksgiving killer, we will have after Christmas and Sylvester killer in cold January for third wave, South Korea already have and their worst wave. Vaccines should start on beginning of new year in France and Germany for old, weak and medical people, but won t stop spreading. Even I hate, because can t see women beautiful faces, but mask may be more efficient versus spreading, when we don t even know for how long vaccines will work, when some caught several times virus. When more and more violence at home, more and more suicides, more and more people becoming poor, and no ski for me, so big frustration. What is just funny for me at the moment is just before brexit start, so many UK running staying card to be allowed to stay in France, for a better life as they say. Of course, they are welcome in beautiful with good way of life France. NL now follow Germany to try to fight virus, this is our Europe.Beautiful France, are you joking? Why you never speak about the 200+ areas where the police and you can t enter and those are less than 7 kilometres from the Champ Elysee, are you taking the RER be to airport CGD after 10 PM. Sorry France is not what you describe, it is becoming a terrible place with a lot of migrants involved in criminal activities and on top of that a completely split society. Let us speak about covid, Germany 90 Millions people and 25000 deaths, France 65 Millions and 60000 deaths, is Germany doing so bad?

Sirioja
12-17-20, 23:13
Beautiful France, are you joking? Why you never speak about the 200+ areas where the police and you can t enter and those are less than 7 kilometres from the Champ Elysee, are you taking the RER be to airport CGD after 10 PM. Sorry France is not what you describe, it is becoming a terrible place with a lot of migrants involved in criminal activities and on top of that a completely split society. Let us speak about covid, Germany 90 Millions people and 25000 deaths, France 65 Millions and 60000 deaths, is Germany doing so bad?Facts are many British don't want to return to live in UK after brexit, also many Germans or Belgium or NL choose to live or spend holidays in France, not so bad. More cases and deaths in Germany than in France at the moment and I m sorry for them, when they close stores, schools.

Sirioja
12-18-20, 06:21
Yes, I believe vaccines will be efficient. After lets say 4 weeks of successful vaccination of medical personnel and older / risk groups then we will se large drop in number of deaths and therefor the pressure on hospitals will drop, which is so important. Then when vaccination of age groups 60, 50, 40 begin we will see gradual decrease in spreading.

To the comparison vs flu you should add that better hygienic practices (washing hands) and social distancing has led to flu almost being at zero levels this season. Most of these practices will continue. In total I think we have reasons to be optimistic about everything looking rather positive in February or March 2021.Maybe less deaths which are mostly old and at risk health, but what about cases number exploding at the moment and still spreading? If many cases, not only old and weak finish in hospitals but also some between 20 and 50. Old and weak are not those who spread the most.

PaulInZurich
12-18-20, 10:13
Yes, I believe vaccines will be efficient. After lets say 4 weeks of successful vaccination of medical personnel and older / risk groups then we will se large drop in number of deaths and therefor the pressure on hospitals will drop, which is so important. Then when vaccination of age groups 60, 50, 40 begin we will see gradual decrease in spreading.Even if the vaccine studies were rushed, by the time I will have the option to get one of the vaccines, tens of millions of people would have been vaccinated, so short term side effects will be known. Longer term studies is another topic. At this point it looks like for population not at high risk or in contact with high risk people vaccinations won't be available before April or May.

McAdonis
12-18-20, 12:56
Facts are many British don't want to return to live in UK after brexit, also many Germans or Belgium or NL choose to live or spend holidays in France, not so bad. More cases and deaths in Germany than in France at the moment and I m sorry for them, when they close stores, schools.I cannot predict what will. Happen after Brexit, but more French live in the UK than the opposite: 191000 French living in UK and 145090 British living in France. British people prefer living in Spain much more than France.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1061625/french-population-in-united-kingdom

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1059795/uk-expats-in-europe/

Turgid
12-18-20, 14:23
Yup. Let's save the money, renovate our homes.........That's exactly what I'm doing. Taking a break now for the season. Will continue next month.

ExpatLover
12-18-20, 16:13
That's exactly what I'm doing. Taking a break now for the season. Will continue next month.You are right, it is also what I am doing even before the pandemic, my finances are so much better and my overall life have improved a lot, met great people, new real-estate project, new classic car I will never spend again so much money with prostitutes as before.

Sirioja
12-18-20, 18:52
I cannot predict what will. Happen after Brexit, but more French live in the UK than the opposite: 191000 French living in UK and 145090 British living in France. British people prefer living in Spain much more than France.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1061625/french-population-in-united-kingdom

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1059795/uk-expats-in-europe/In deep Dordogne, French administration created a service dedicated to British, this service would not get me service even paid with my tax, to give British allowances to stay living in France as they wish, after brexit. Of course UK, Germans, NL and Belgium also love Costa Brava, Catalunya and Baleares, for quality of life compare to their home country, same like in France and Italy. Arithmetic's just talk: small France and Paris are number 1 for tourism, huge US, NYC, LA, China, India can t compete. Spain and my beloved Italy are also in top 4 for tourism, with magic Roma, Venezia, Firenza, Barcelona, Cadix. Great foods and high quality of life in these 3 countries and high medical healthcare in France as say British, compare to UK and when around French population don t have insurance in country number 1 in the world, US, even for some people who have several jobs, but no healthcare insurance, third world for social. A bit shame in front of the world, not a good example for American dream.

Sirioja
12-18-20, 20:03
My life learned me unfortunately, can change very fast: I can be killed by terrorism, crash with car, detected with cancer and die in less than 3 months, so then, I won't need money I sleep on, and as far I know, I would not have anymore pleasure when dead. Money is just to live in good way for me, I don't need anymore more, when I could make much more working more, but I just want my pleasures: skiing my spots, climbing my beloved mountains, dedicating my life to beauty, what is my pleasure with adrenaline. I let being or becoming rich to others, I don't need 3 houses, I need only 1 bed and I usually sleep better in my car, when we will all be equal under ground, when we are different for life.

Ararat
12-18-20, 21:26
I cannot predict what will. Happen after Brexit, but more French live in the UK than the opposite: 191000 French living in UK and 145090 British living in France. British people prefer living in Spain much more than France.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1061625/french-population-in-united-kingdom

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1059795/uk-expats-in-europe/Yes, but the British migrants there will have to move back to Blighty unless they've managed to claim permanent residency by now. Unlike migrants in other countries those are older and won't get work visas. Their problem is also that if they're older then health care won't be available like before due to reciprocal agreement no longer valid. As with most groups down there they're not particularly integrated into Spanish society. That doesn't help them either.

We'll see about the overall effects but the migrants in Spain are most likely in for a rollercoaster ride.

The Cane
12-19-20, 00:16
So says the King: https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-55347021.

ExpatLover
12-19-20, 02:29
My life learned me unfortunately, can change very fast: I can be killed by terrorism, crash with car, detected with cancer and die in less than 3 months, so then, I won't need money I sleep on, and as far I know, I would not have anymore pleasure when dead. Money is just to live in good way for me, I don't need anymore more, when I could make much more working more, but I just want my pleasures: skiing my spots, climbing my beloved mountains, dedicating my life to beauty, what is my pleasure with adrenaline. I let being or becoming rich to others, I don't need 3 houses, I need only 1 bed and I usually sleep better in my car, when we will all be equal under ground, when we are differen,t for life.You have fully right and are living a healthy life, I also used to do a lot of sport but by getting older I have to reduce my activity some knee problems, some shoulder. And with the pandemic am it is not the good time to get any unnecessary surgery. Being also a bit hyperactive I need always to have new projects in my life.

McAdonis
12-19-20, 05:45
In deep Dordogne, French administration created a service dedicated to British, this service would not get me service even paid with my tax, to give British allowances to stay living in France as they wish, after brexit. Of course UK, Germans, NL and Belgium also love Costa Brava, Catalunya and Baleares, for quality of life compare to their home country, same like in France and Italy. EU citizens like retiring in Spain because it is cheaper, and has good weather, but still only a one to two hour flight home to visit family.


Arithmetic's just talk: small France and Paris are number 1 for tourism, huge US, NYC, LA, China, India can t compete. Spain and my beloved Italy are also in top 4 for tourism, with magic Roma, Venezia, Firenza, Barcelona, Cadix.France is number one for tourism, but it is worthwhile to also look deeper into the numbers. Travelling between Schengen countries is cheap, easy, and requires little time because countries are smaller and closer together, which makes it easier to generate higher tourist figures. Many Europeans travel back and forth between the same 3-4 EU countries. Someone living Frankfurt can be in Paris in about 3 hours by train. Families from Belgium and NL can get in a car and be in Disneyland Paris on the weekend. Chinese tourists who arrive in EU usually go on a group tour bus and visit ten different countries. Young backpackers from USA and Australia will also do a multi-country itinerary when they visit EU.


Travellers from another of France's neighbours, Germany, made up 13 million visitors to France last year, more than any other country. However, not all these visitors are coming to see France itself.

“Because of France's position many tourists are forced to pass through the country on their way to other destinations,” explains Didier Arino, president of tourism industry specialists Protourisme. “Between 15 and 20 million of the visitors who come to France are just passing through on their way to Italy or Spain.”

https://www.thelocal.fr/20190410/france-retains-crown-as-most-visited-country-on-earth.

BigBuddy69
12-19-20, 07:10
Don't say that and don't talk about the mask who is now mandatory in public transports and don't say anything about the Lask dude who has been speaking about local lockdowns, you're going to make shooTroll very angry. And not a single word about the new limitations in restaurant (that's 4 no?), it's just a very slight adjustment of their guidelines.

BigBuddy69
12-19-20, 07:31
https://time.com/5901352/sweden-local-lockdowns/

I feel really bad but the guy is named Nojd and not Lask.

And as soon as he said the evil word that cannot be said, some official jumped in front of the stage to say that it was only new guidelines. Naughty Johan what did you say?

It reminds me of Evil dead when they find the Necronomicon.

Sirioja
12-19-20, 08:42
You have fully right and are living a healthy life, I also used to do a lot of sport but by getting older I have to reduce my activity some knee problems, some shoulder. And with the pandemic am it is not the good time to get any unnecessary surgery. Being also a bit hyperactive I need always to have new projects in my life.My parents made me start ski when I was not 3 yet, I started real off slopes at 14 , when I see when I go now to ride and really wish they will open lifts to let me live my freedom and pleasure, feeling to fly. I bought a VTT bicycle in 2003 to climb like in tour de France, when I discovered Dolomiti I improved bicycle with 34/36 for more than 20% climbing, getting older but I improved so much my records, I climb only for this, I gave up 6 times in la Bonette 2802 meters high on this Summer, for bad weather on top or because I couldn't break my record, so no interest to reach the top if not for record. Of course I wish to return to break record on next Summer. Was closed with snow when I finished on October, climbing Agnel 2744 meters high topless with snow on road on last kilometer to top and 5 degrees on top when 20 at the bottom, just exceptional experience. Despite pains, sometimes hardly able to walk with blocked back or knees from shocks when skiing, when I destroyed one shoulder being ejected by skis reaction to pressure, but I need so much, my drug. Even can t ski in France, but I will put skis and shoes in car, meaning I m ready, for a better mood, when I know it won t open soon with our too many cases increasing again, but happy to see them everyday, my best friends with bicycle, I give them my life when I m among rocks or crevaces, to press and cut the ice, when I m really not interested to make friends in brothels. My passions which feed my life now.

Sirioja
12-19-20, 13:50
EU citizens like retiring in Spain because it is cheaper, and has good weather, but still only a one to two hour flight home to visit family.

France is number one for tourism, but it is worthwhile to also look deeper into the numbers. Travelling between Schengen countries is cheap, easy, and requires little time because countries are smaller and closer together, which makes it easier to generate higher tourist figures. Many Europeans travel back and forth between the same 3-4 EU countries. Someone living Frankfurt can be in Paris in about 3 hours by train. Families from Belgium and NL can get in a car and be in Disneyland Paris on the weekend. Chinese tourists who arrive in EU usually go on a group tour bus and visit ten different countries. Young backpackers from USA and Australia will also do a multi-country itinerary when they visit EU.Fortunately for our economy, many foreigners coming to visit and spending holidays. Not on 2020, but many US, Asians and Arabians coming to spend money in France. Also many coming to live or retire, not for cheap like in Spain, but for our quality of life, good foods and wines and healthcare. Just figures for being number 1 for tourism and Paris for the most visited, city of love as say girls, when Spain and Italy also in top 4, when Germany and UK are behind.

Sirioja
12-19-20, 13:57
Yes, mask now in Sweden, when Germany, NL, Italy on 21, Austria on 26, Switzerland are closing. Not anymore in France since 15 December, but big risk on January. Will be complicated Winter. In France, only +65 and at risk and medical people are planned for vaccine and I think it will take almost 2021, so spreading is not finished.

Turgid
12-19-20, 14:57
You are right, it is also what I am doing even before the pandemic, my finances are so much better and my overall life have improved a lot, met great people, new real-estate project, new classic car I will never spend again so much money with prostitutes as before.Unless the most unlikely situation of me meeting a compatible babe who sweeps me off my feet and gets me to settle down happens I will continue to pursue this bobby. I will travel again when I can visit a country where I can sit in the park and look at beautiful girls pass by with no masks on.

ExpatLover
12-19-20, 15:48
Unless the most unlikely situation of me meeting a compatible babe who sweeps me off my feet and gets me to settle down happens I will continue to pursue this bobby. I will travel again when I can visit a country where I can sit in the park and look at beautiful girls pass by with no masks on.Of course I am also doing it but all the girls are not prostitutes, probably in a park there is 0 prostitutes.

Sirioja
12-20-20, 12:58
Rushing for vaccine but new kind of covid found in UK. Will vaccine work versus this new? London under confine for Christmas. EU think to close from UK, when NL and Belgium already did.

ExpatLover
12-20-20, 16:24
Rushing for vaccine but new kind of covid found in UK. Will vaccine work versus this new? London under confine for Christmas. EU think to close from UK, when NL and Belgium already did.Last week I wrote about this, first I will not take a RNA vaccine and second like the flue vaccine it efficiency is far less for old people or people with comorbidity and those are the first to be vaccinate. Nothing proves that the vaccine will work with the new mutant.

Sirioja
12-20-20, 19:59
Now information are arriving about Chinese government lies about virus, when their doctor Li warned on last December, but politics threatened him if not stopping to tell and he died very fast, also about not reliable tests. Real danger for the world.

McAdonis
12-21-20, 00:02
Fortunately for our economy, many foreigners coming to visit and spending holidays. Not on 2020, but many US, Asians and Arabians coming to spend money in France. Also many coming to live or retire, not for cheap like in Spain, but for our quality of life, good foods and wines and healthcare. Just figures for being number 1 for tourism and Paris for the most visited, city of love as say girls, when Spain and Italy also in top 4, when Germany and UK are behind.USA made $217 billion from tourists in 2018, France made only $67 billion, and Thailand made $63 billion. Each arrival to USA spends an average of $2694, in Thailand $1644, and in France only $753. Probably a third of France's tourist arrivals stay for only 1-2 days. Why? Because you have so many countries within driving distance and open borders. In one weekend, how many times do you cross a border? In most other places in the world the type of country hopping you do every weekend is not so easy and not so cheap. People who go to Australia spend the most money, $4891 per arrival. Why? Because Australia is far and if you fly that far, you will probably stay longer. And the only other country you can really hop to from Australia is New Zealand. So yes France is number 1 in tourist arrivals, Spain is number 2. But the full story, if you choose to look deeper, is USA makes three times more money from tourism than France: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/map-countries-by-tourist-spending/.

Mursenary
12-21-20, 04:30
USA made $217 billion from tourists in 2018, France made only $67 billion, and Thailand made $63 billion. Each arrival to USA spends an average of $2694, in Thailand $1644, and in France only $753. Probably a third of France's tourist arrivals stay for only 1-2 days. Why? Because you have so many countries within driving distance and open borders. In one weekend, how many times do you cross a border? In most other places in the world the type of country hopping you do everyLOL, you're asking certain people to look deeper against their cemented beliefs. Has 2020 taught us nothing? Haha.

Every time I arrive in Charles De Galle Airport, I spend my 3 euro for a coffee and croissant and try to get the fuck out of France as quickly as possible. The feelings of snobbery when anywhere near Paris is just, well, icky.

Mursenary
12-21-20, 04:38
Last week I wrote about this, first I will not take a RNA vaccine and second like the flue vaccine it efficiency is far less for old people or people with comorbidity and those are the first to be vaccinate. Nothing proves that the vaccine will work with the new mutant.Last week, people more clinically educated than you wrote about it too.

"Prof Tom Solomon, the Director of the NIHR Health Protection Research Unit in Emerging and Zoonotic Infections, at the University of Liverpool, said:

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus which cause Covid-19 is evolving and mutating all the time, as do all similar viruses. Such changes are completely to be expected.

"In the UK we are doing very detailed genetic assessment of many of the virus strains detected. From what Matt Hancock has announced it sounds as though a particular variant is being detected especially across the South of England. Just because there has been a small change in the virus' genetic make-up this does not mean it is any more virulent, nor that vaccines won't be effective. Our experience from previous similar viruses suggests that the vaccines will be effective despite small genetic changes."

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-the-new-variant-of-sars-cov-2/

Just doing my part to prevent misinformation.

Sirioja
12-21-20, 07:33
Last week I wrote about this, first I will not take a RNA vaccine and second like the flue vaccine it efficiency is far less for old people or people with comorbidity and those are the first to be vaccinate. Nothing proves that the vaccine will work with the new mutant.I don't know how will stop spreading when our doctors think we may have third wave in France on mid January after Christmas and Sylvester, when Germany, Switzerland, Italy and South UK are under now, but I wish vaccine won't kill too many and will protect old people, at health risk and medical people, for less deaths, when too many deaths, much more than 1 million. In France, should vaccine in 2021, +65 yo ones.

ExpatLover
12-21-20, 07:33
Fortunately for our economy, many foreigners coming to visit and spending holidays. Not on 2020, but many US, Asians and Arabians coming to spend money in France. Also many coming to live or retire, not for cheap like in Spain, but for our quality of life, good foods and wines and healthcare. Just figures for being number 1 for tourism and Paris for the most visited, city of love as say girls, when Spain and Italy also in top 4, when Germany and UK are behind.You love France I don't. Except some British several years ago (mostly in Creuse, Limousin.) very few wealthy European citizen are choosing France as their principal living place for retire. On the opposite, 400000 migrants (mostly Muslim, uneducated, and poor) come to France every year. 200000 French citizen (mostly educated, middle and upper classes) are expatriating (like me). French economy is in a terrible situation near to bankruptcy without the support of the BCE and low interest rate. On the opposite mostly French people are not welcome as tourist just because of their behaviour and attitude, without speaking about their poor foreign languages capabilities.

Sirioja
12-21-20, 09:28
USA made $217 billion from tourists in 2018, France made only $67 billion, and Thailand made $63 billion. Each arrival to USA spends an average of $2694, in Thailand $1644, and in France only $753. Probably a third of France's tourist arrivals stay for only 1-2 days. Why? Because you have so many countries within driving distance and open borders. In one weekend, how many times do you cross a border? In most other places in the world the type of country hopping you do every weekend is not so easy and not so cheap. People who go to Australia spend the most money, $4891 per arrival. Why? Because Australia is far and if you fly that far, you will probably stay longer. And the only other country you can really hop to from Australia is New Zealand. So yes France is number 1 in tourist arrivals, Spain is number 2. But the full story, if you choose to look deeper, is USA makes three times more money from tourism than France: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/map-countries-by-tourist-spending/.Number 1 for tourism visits and same for Paris, for my small country with best foods and wines, champagne, best healthcare when a covid test cost more than 100 in UK, when more than France population don t have insurance in US, even when working, when unemployed and foreigners get in France, paid with my tax, for one of the highest quality of life with many foreigners choosing to come to live in this small beautiful country, when I think American dream is falling a bit and Chinese are scared about their government. At least in France, we may disagree with Macron, but we are not afraid of him. Under lockdown at the moment, Germans come to buy for Christmas in France, they know they will find same quality, better foods and good point for our economy which need under this crisis and when EU close now borders with UK to protect about virus.

BigBuddy69
12-21-20, 10:49
Wow McA you're so boring with your real facts. Please let everybody enjoy their own fantasy world.

Samplerr
12-21-20, 12:51
So yes France is number 1 in tourist arrivals, Spain is number 2. But the full story, if you choose to look deeper, is USA makes three times more money from tourism than France: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/map-countries-by-tourist-spending/.Fair points, but according to your link Spain, France, Switzerland and especially Austria earn far more per capita from tourism than the USA.

ShooBree
12-21-20, 13:06
https://time.com/5901352/sweden-local-lockdowns/

I feel really bad but the guy is named Nojd and not Lask.

And as soon as he said the evil word that cannot be said, some official jumped in front of the stage to say that it was only new guidelines. Naughty Johan what did you say?

It reminds me of Evil dead when they find the Necronomicon.That's just laughable, especially considering when the article was written. Talk about being desperate to push their false narrative.

Oh well, the gullible sheep's without any knowledge of Sweden are swallowing the fake news.

ShooBree
12-21-20, 13:16
Don't say that and don't talk about the mask who is now mandatory in public transports and don't say anything about the Lask dude who has been speaking about local lockdowns, you're going to make shooTroll very angry. And not a single word about the new limitations in restaurant (that's 4 no?), it's just a very slight adjustment of their guidelines.Oh dear bigtroll, why do you use so many words when you could just as well have written that the restaurants are still open.

Get back when you understand the difference between restrictions and a lockdown. It was hilarious when you claimed that it's a lockdown when they close the museums. Thank you for the laughs.

Turgid
12-21-20, 13:52
Number 1 for tourism visits and same for Paris, for my small country with best foods and wines, champagne, best healthcare when a covid test cost more than 100 in UK, when more than France population don t have insurance in US, even when working, when unemployed and foreigners get in France, paid with my tax, for one of the highest quality of life with many foreigners choosing to come to live in this small beautiful country, when I think American dream is falling a bit and Chinese are scared about their government. At least in France, we may disagree with Macron, but we are not afraid of him. Under lockdown at the moment, Germans come to buy for Christmas in France, they know they will find same quality, better foods and good point for our economy which need under this crisis and when EU close now borders with UK to protect about virus.Lets say mongering is totally out of the picture which country would I choose? The number 1 answer is good old United States. I have everything else I need here, good food, great shopping, museums, the best entertainment in the world, etc. Outside of the USA I would choose the UK, I can get good food here, great shopping, theater, concerts, good socializing, great pubs, the best museums in the world, etc. Elsewhere I would choose the Caribbean for turquoise beaches, relaxation and revitalization.

McAdonis
12-21-20, 14:47
Fair points, but according to your link Spain, France, Switzerland and especially Austria earn far more per capita from tourism than the USA.OP seems to emphasize how desirable his country is for tourists. If so, is it relevant to know how much each citizen of a country earns from tourism dollars? Does the amount each French, Spaniard, or Austrian make from tourism, make it more of a "destination" in the minds of international tourists?

My point for emphasizing how much each country earns is strictly to emphasize that tourists that fly into USA, Thailand, or Australia are making a commitment to stay there for more than 1-2 nights. It's a commitment in terms of cost, travel time, and in some cases tourist visa paperwork, so the tourists that go to these countries are jumping through extra hoops. And in that sense, these non-EU countries can be thought of as more desirable destinations to visit. Here is a population density map that shows us clusters of large populations that border France. These are places that are a 100 EUR one hour flight away. And as quoted from an earlier article, 15-20 percent of France's tourists are people that stay in France en-route to Spain or Italy, so think a German family packed into a car on their way to Spain. https://luminocity3d.org/WorldPopDen/#6/48.807/2. 703.

OP also emphasizes the number of expats who love living in France. Well there appears to be many French leaving France if we look at net migration rate. While not bad, the English-friendly and high-income countries seem to do much better: Singapore, Switzerland, Macau, Qatar, UAE, Luxembourg, Nordic countries, Canada, UK, Australia, USA, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_net_migration_rate.

Sirioja
12-21-20, 20:57
USA made $217 billion from tourists in 2018, France made only $67 billion, and Thailand made $63 billion. Each arrival to USA spends an average of $2694, in Thailand $1644, and in France only $753. Probably a third of France's tourist arrivals stay for only 1-2 days. Why? Because you have so many countries within driving distance and open borders. In one weekend, how many times do you cross a border? In most other places in the world the type of country hopping you do every weekend is not so easy and not so cheap. People who go to Australia spend the most money, $4891 per arrival. Why? Because Australia is far and if you fly that far, you will probably stay longer. And the only other country you can really hop to from Australia is New Zealand. So yes France is number 1 in tourist arrivals, Spain is number 2. But the full story, if you choose to look deeper, is USA makes three times more money from tourism than France: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/map-countries-by-tourist-spending/.As written by another one, when US are 14 times larger than small France and 5 times for population, but with French population with no health insurance in a modern country, then arithmetic's like at school talk for your figures, in percent, US are far behind. I think US are ranked third for tourism, but not in percent. But I agree New York, Boston, New Orleans and San Francisco are interesting.

Sirioja
12-21-20, 21:16
Lets say mongering is totally out of the picture which country would I choose? The number 1 answer is good old United States. I have everything else I need here, good food, great shopping, museums, the best entertainment in the world, etc. Outside of the USA I would choose the UK, I can get good food here, great shopping, theater, concerts, good socializing, great pubs, the best museums in the world, etc. Elsewhere I would choose the Caribbean for turquoise beaches, relaxation and revitalization.Are you joking for good foods in US or UK compare to France, Italy or Spain or Argentinian meat, even I love UK breakfast and cranberries in US. For us, Europeans, US are new, when killed their past history, compare to our history and culture. Also, worrying weapons allowance when so many crazy there, but no more Indians to kill. I remember on my first visit, in a Miami market, a guy opened his car back and there were weapons and some military for a army. I entered rent car and left fast.

Gino02
12-21-20, 23:19
Health "experts" say flu cases have significantly DECLINED globally because people ARE wearing masks and practicing social distancing.

However, Covid-19 infection rates are UP because people are NOT wearing masks and social-distancing.

Don't question the narrative. It's Science.

If you question as a good Doctor should, you might lose your job.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/contra-costa-co-doctor-says-he-was-reassigned-after-questioning-covid-19-restrictions/2427600/

PhuckBiden
12-22-20, 00:46
Health "experts" say flu cases have significantly DECLINED globally because people ARE wearing masks and practicing social distancing.

However, Covid-19 infection rates are UP because people are NOT wearing masks and social-distancing.

Don't question the narrative. It's Science.

If you question as a good Doctor should, you might lose your job.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/contra-costa-co-doctor-says-he-was-reassigned-after-questioning-covid-19-restrictions/2427600/Is this where you are from?

Mursenary
12-22-20, 02:17
Health "experts" say flu cases have significantly DECLINED globally because people ARE wearing masks and practicing social distancing.

However, Covid-19 infection rates are UP because people are NOT wearing masks and social-distancing.

Don't question the narrative. It's Science.

If you question as a good Doctor should, you might lose your job.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/contra-costa-co-doctor-says-he-was-reassigned-after-questioning-covid-19-restrictions/2427600/This post demonstrates how a 13 year old reasons.

Any other year, there were zero PPE usage and distancing. Some use this year leads to flu decline.

However, not enough people are using PPE and distancing so COVID remains uncontrolled.

Duh. Idiocy.

Mursenary
12-22-20, 02:22
As written by another one, when US are 14 times larger than small France and 5 times for population, but with French population with no health insurance in a modern country, then arithmetic's like at school talk for your figures, in percent, US are far behind. I think US are ranked third for tourism, but not in percent. But I agree New York, Boston, New Orleans and San Francisco are interesting.LOL, now he wants to talk arithmetic and percentages. Not so much when he talked about covid numbers. The bias is glaring.

Paris is gross. So are the people in it.

Sirioja
12-22-20, 06:33
You love France I don't. Except some British several years ago (mostly in Creuse, Limousin.) very few wealthy European citizen are choosing France as their principal living place for retire. On the opposite, 400000 migrants (mostly Muslim, uneducated, and poor) come to France every year. 200000 French citizen (mostly educated, middle and upper classes) are expatriating (like me). French economy is in a terrible situation near to bankruptcy without the support of the BCE and low interest rate. On the opposite mostly French people are not welcome as tourist just because of their behaviour and attitude, without speaking about their poor foreign languages capabilities.Ask British about Dordogne and around, or Bretagne. A good example is famous Nice with so famous English promenade on more than 6 kilometers, when angels bay is only second name. When wall fell, when they could choose Genova, not Geneva. Ch, or San Remo, or Monaco but maybe more difficult, but Nice became nearly Russian. I remember in restaurants, written in French, English and Russian. Not anymore now because needed to clean the place from East mafia. I don't feel not welcome when I go abroad, even only few German words or in Italian or Spanish and even in Russia where they are not really welcoming, but when You speak a bit of Russian to them, then they smile to you. You just get from what you are and how you are able to adapt, not only from where you come, even many WGs are running Asian business.

Turgid
12-22-20, 14:42
Are you joking for good foods in US or UK compare to France, Italy or Spain or Argentinian meat, even I love UK breakfast and cranberries in US. For us, Europeans, US are new, when killed their past history, compare to our history and culture. Also, worrying weapons allowance when so many crazy there, but no more Indians to kill. I remember on my first visit, in a Miami market, a guy opened his car back and there were weapons and some military for a army. I entered rent car and left fast.I am very serious. There are very good restaurants in NYC that serve excellent food for my taste. Better than what I would get in Europe. For me though the best food in the world can be found in Mexico and Peru.

Regarding safety, in every part of the world there are areas you ought to avoid and those you can traverse safely. I am certain there are neighborhoods in Paris that you would not dare enter. I am more fearful of terrorist attacks in Europe than in the US.

ExpatLover
12-22-20, 15:20
I am very serious. There are very good restaurants in NYC that serve excellent food for my taste. Better than what I would get in Europe. For me though the best food in the world can be found in Mexico and Peru.

Regarding safety, in every part of the world there are areas you ought to avoid and those you can traverse safely. I am certain there are neighborhoods in Paris that you would not dare enter. I am more fearful of terrorist attacks in Europe than in the US.Sorry but you have countries were you can go everywhere, Switzerland, Austria, Luxembourg, Poland, Slovenia, Korea, China, Japan, Hungary. There the police and the justice are doing their job. Every one has is own taste, I am half French and really I don't know what is French cuisine, the habits are so different from north to south but they are common points, very expensive and bad service. That is why I like Italian cuisine or Chinese or Japanese before you enter you know which kind of food you will get.

McAdonis
12-22-20, 18:04
France has a geographic advantage to pad its tourism arrivals: "Location, Location, Location". In 2017, there were 87 million tourists, but over 61 million of the tourists came from UK, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, NL, Switzerland, Spain, Italy. All are less than a two hour flight to CDG. And if Ryanair, probably less than a 50 EUR ticket. Switzerland is not EU, but one can drive across border and rarely will border control ever stop them. UK citizens have to pass through passport control so 30 minutes max. USA only has two bordering countries, but Mexican citizens are not allowed easy and cheap access. They need to go to the embassy in Mexico City and pay $131 for a visa in addition to their airfare. But I am willing to acknowledge, that USA being a larger landmass means it has more unique terrains and geographies (Hawaii, Alaska, Rocky Mountains, Grand Canyon, two oceans etc) which might make it appealing.


In 2017, 37 million international tourists came to France for stays of one, two or three nights. Short stays thus accounted for 43% of the total. France’s accessibility and central position in Europe makes it an attractive destination both for short stays, especially for bordering countries, and as a stage on journeys to other destinations.

https://www.entreprises.gouv.fr/files/files/directions_services/etudes-et-statistiques/4p-DGE/2018-07-4p-N84-EVE-version-anglaise.pdfI took the train from Germany to Paris a few years ago, then straight to airport hotel at CDG, and next morning international flight. When I checked into hotel, they probably counted me as a tourist arrival. I spent 14 hours in France. The five largest populations in Western Europe in order are Germany, France, UK, Italy, and Spain. And what country is the geographic center? France. This means UK, Dutch, German family who want to drive to Spain, will probably book an overnight hotel in France. Family from Zurich or Rome driving to Malaga would probably also spend a night in France. More accurately, one night on the drive to Spain, and another night on the drive back home.

McAdonis
12-22-20, 19:19
That is why I like Italian cuisine or Chinese or Japanese before you enter you know which kind of food you will get.Those are the top three cuisines in the exact order that you specified, according to a survey of 25000 people from 24 countries: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/food/articles-reports/2019/03/12/italian-cuisine-worlds-most-popular.

I believe you said you lived in China before. Was Chinese food one of your favorite cuisines BEFORE living in China? Because I have been to a Chinese buffet in France. There were a few hundred people eating there, and I do not think there was a single Chinese. But this is most people's only exposure to Chinese food. They had an entire section dedicated to charcuterie and cheeses, so their menu was definitely designed to cater to local tastes, and not at all authentic. I was surprised I did not see Coq au Vin and Bouef Bourguignon being served there.


For me though the best food in the world can be found in Mexico and Peru.Food is highly subjective. If you look at the survey I linked, most people's favorite cuisine is the cuisine from their own country. If not, then it is usually a cuisine that they were exposed to early in life. For Americans, most lists have the top three as Mexican, Chinese, and Italian. The order would be interchangeable based on the state or perhaps the age of people surveyed. But if you trace the history of those three cuisines in America, all three were initially thought of as "disgusting" cuisines. And up until recently, all three were bastardized versions of the originals. They were altered to cater to Anglo-American tastes and the dishes were adapted to use local ingredients that were more readily available in America. BTW, this bastardization also occurred in Peru: Lomo Soltado, was invented by Chinese who immigrated to Peru.

But the food scene seems to be changing. I believe Instagram and the Internet is driving millennials, well the ones that can afford it, to seek out more regional and authentic cuisines. So now it is Oaxacan instead of just generic "Mexican". Or Sichuan or Shandong instead of just generic "Chinese". Personally, instead of Tex-Mex that is drenched with an excess of cheese and refried beans, I prefer lamb birria or mole. And I do not shy away from cilantro.

Mursenary
12-22-20, 19:20
France has a geographic advantage to pad its tourism arrivals: "Location, Location, Location". In 2017, there were 87 million tourists, but over 61 million of the tourists came from UK, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, NL, Switzerland, Spain, Italy. All are less than a two hour flight to CDG. And if Ryanair, probably less than a 50 EUR ticket. Switzerland is not EU, but one can drive across border and rarely will border control ever stop them. UK citizens have to pass through passport control so 30 minutes max. USA only has two bordering countries, but Mexican citizens are not allowed easy and cheap access. They need to go to the embassy in Mexico City and pay $131 for a visa in addition to their airfare. But I am willing to acknowledge, that USA being a larger landmass means it has more unique terrains and geographies (Hawaii, Alaska, Rocky Mountains, Grand Canyon, two oceans etc) which might make it appealing.

I took the train from Germany to Paris a few years ago, then straight to airport hotel at CDG, and next morning international flight. When I checked into hotel, they probably counted me as a tourist arrival. I spent 14 hours in France. The five largest populations in Western Europe in order are Germany, France, UK, Italy, and Spain. And what country is the geographic center? France. This means UK, Dutch, German family who want to drive to Spain, will probably book an overnight hotel in France. Family from Zurich or Rome driving to Malaga would probably also spend a night in France. More accurately, one night on the drive to Spain, and another night on the drive back home.Yes, most men agree with you, France sucks. Croissants are cool. But the French even stole that from the middle east. So basically, France all around just sucks.

BigBuddy69
12-22-20, 19:47
LOL, now he wants to talk arithmetic and percentages. Not so much when he talked about covid numbers. The bias is glaring.

Paris is gross. So are the people in it.Paris is a very dirty town and only the snobby Parisians or the retired Chinese people believe it's the most beautiful city in the world (and the Chinese realize it's not true as soon as they land in Roissy or Orly) . Among big French towns, Lyon and Strasbourg are obviously more beautiful but the average Parisian guy thinks that's there is nothing outside the périphérique.

And if you talk about big cities in Europe, Kraków, Vienna, Budapest, maybe even Berlin are miles ahead of Paris. The most beautiful things in France are in the countryside. Go in Ardèche, Drôme, Gard, Hérault, Alpes de Haute Provence, you'll see wonderful landscapes.

The Cane
12-22-20, 21:54
Paris is a very dirty town and only the snobby Parisians or the retired Chinese people believe it's the most beautiful city in the world (and the Chinese realize it's not true as soon as they land in Roissy or Orly) . Among big French towns, Lyon and Strasbourg are obviously more beautiful but the average Parisian guy thinks that's there is nothing outside the priphrique.

And if you talk about big cities in Europe, Krakw, Vienna, Budapest, maybe even Berlin are miles ahead of Paris. The most beautiful things in France are in the countryside. Go in Ardche, Drme, Gard, Hrault, Alpes de Haute Provence, you'll see wonderful landscapes.Vienna is the nicest city I have been to in continental Europe. Doesn't have the best mongering, but as a city it was "par excellence". Isn't that French? LOLOLOL!

Sirioja
12-22-20, 22:10
France has a geographic advantage to pad its tourism arrivals: "Location, Location, Location". In 2017, there were 87 million tourists, but over 61 million of the tourists came from UK, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, NL, Switzerland, Spain, Italy. All are less than a two hour flight to CDG. And if Ryanair, probably less than a 50 EUR ticket. Switzerland is not EU, but one can drive across border and rarely will border control ever stop them. UK citizens have to pass through passport control so 30 minutes max. USA only has two bordering countries, but Mexican citizens are not allowed easy and cheap access. They need to go to the embassy in Mexico City and pay $131 for a visa in addition to their airfare. But I am willing to acknowledge, that USA being a larger landmass means it has more unique terrains and geographies (Hawaii, Alaska, Rocky Mountains, Grand Canyon, two oceans etc) which might make it appealing.

I took the train from Germany to Paris a few years ago, then straight to airport hotel at CDG, and next morning international flight. When I checked into hotel, they probably counted me as a tourist arrival. I spent 14 hours in France. The five largest populations in Western Europe in order are Germany, France, UK, Italy, and Spain. And what country is the geographic center? France. This means UK, Dutch, German family who want to drive to Spain, will probably book an overnight hotel in France. Family from Zurich or Rome driving to Malaga would probably also spend a night in France. More accurately, one night on the drive to Spain, and another night on the drive back home.Not on this year, but many US, Asians and Arabians usually visiting France and making shopping and Paris hotels business. Of course, many UK, Germans, NL and Belgium coming to spend their holidays rather than in their own country and even on this Summer. For some here who don't like me, most being jealous, I m not France which is much more famous all over the world than me, but I m happy I made my life in Paris, even I plan to retire in my beloved mountains. When girls know I m from Paris, almost all saying: city of love, still the image of Paris. Do they say the same for NY or Tokyo or Pekin?

Sirioja
12-22-20, 22:28
France has a geographic advantage to pad its tourism arrivals: "Location, Location, Location". In 2017, there were 87 million tourists, but over 61 million of the tourists came from UK, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, NL, Switzerland, Spain, Italy. All are less than a two hour flight to CDG. And if Ryanair, probably less than a 50 EUR ticket. Switzerland is not EU, but one can drive across border and rarely will border control ever stop them. UK citizens have to pass through passport control so 30 minutes max. USA only has two bordering countries, but Mexican citizens are not allowed easy and cheap access. They need to go to the embassy in Mexico City and pay $131 for a visa in addition to their airfare. But I am willing to acknowledge, that USA being a larger landmass means it has more unique terrains and geographies (Hawaii, Alaska, Rocky Mountains, Grand Canyon, two oceans etc) which might make it appealing.

I took the train from Germany to Paris a few years ago, then straight to airport hotel at CDG, and next morning international flight. When I checked into hotel, they probably counted me as a tourist arrival. I spent 14 hours in France. The five largest populations in Western Europe in order are Germany, France, UK, Italy, and Spain. And what country is the geographic center? France. This means UK, Dutch, German family who want to drive to Spain, will probably book an overnight hotel in France. Family from Zurich or Rome driving to Malaga would probably also spend a night in France. More accurately, one night on the drive to Spain, and another night on the drive back home.5 seas around small France, 4/5 different mountains, famous for foods, wines and champagne, for fashion, best healthcare for everybody, what I call a modern social country, even unfortunately, we have poor and unemployment.

ExpatLover
12-22-20, 23:04
Those are the top three cuisines in the exact order that you specified, according to a survey of 25000 people from 24 countries: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/food/articles-reports/2019/03/12/italian-cuisine-worlds-most-popular.

I believe you said you lived in China before. Was Chinese food one of your favorite cuisines BEFORE living in China? Because I have been to a Chinese buffet in France. There were a few hundred people eating there, and I do not think there was a single Chinese. But this is most people's only exposure to Chinese food. They had an entire section dedicated to charcuterie and cheeses, so their menu was definitely designed to cater to local tastes, and not at all authentic. I was surprised I did not see Coq au Vin and Bouef Bourguignon being served there.

Food is highly subjective. If you look at the survey I linked, most people's favorite cuisine is the cuisine from their own country. If not, then it is usually a cuisine that they were exposed to early in life. For Americans, most lists have the top three as Mexican, Chinese, and Italian. The order would be interchangeable based on the state or perhaps the age of people surveyed. But if you trace the history of those three cuisines in America, all three were initially thought of as "disgusting" cuisines. And up until recently, all three were bastardized versions of the originals. They were altered to cater to Anglo-American tastes and the dishes were adapted to use local ingredients that were more readily available in America. BTW, this bastardization also occurred in Peru: Lomo Soltado, was invented by Chinese who immigrated to Peru.

But the food scene seems to be changing. I believe Instagram and the Internet is driving millennials, well the ones that can afford it, to seek out more regional and authentic cuisines. So now it is Oaxacan instead of just generic "Mexican". Or Sichuan or Shandong instead of just generic "Chinese". Personally, instead of Tex-Mex that is drenched with an excess of cheese and refried beans, I prefer lamb birria or mole. And I do not shy away from cilantro.Chinese buffet in Europe have nothing to do with Chinese cuisine, usually in the different China towns you get real Chinese food, like in NY or Budapest, but it is not true for Chinatown in Paris where mostly Vietnamese and Cambodia people live. Easy for me to test I just need to speak mandarin usually they don t understand. Chines cuisine has a big diversity from the North in Harbin to the South in Guangdong or in the West with Sichuan.

Gino02
12-23-20, 03:06
This is becoming funnier by the day. Of course it is too little too late. The whole world should have banned the Asians, particularly the Chinese travelers, back in January 2020 or before, even before I suggested that on this board. But hey, the smart people said that would have been Xenophobic, some of you in USA even voted for a guy just last month who was saying that. Enjoy your isolated life forever, while I try to salvage my normal life with FKK girls from the mess of lockdowns that many of you still support. Wake up if you want to lead a normal life before you die in your basement.

NYT: Can Travel Bans Really Stop the Spread of Coronavirus Variants? Experts Are Skeptical (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/world/europe/travel-bans-coronavirus-variants.html).

BigBuddy69
12-23-20, 05:40
We don't really say 'par excellence' in French, maybe you could say 'la creme de la creme'. I forgot Amsterdam in the list of the most beautiful cities in Europe but I think that right now my favourite one would be Krakow. I have to see Prague this year. Dubrovnik is beautiful too but technically it's a small city.

Sirioja
12-23-20, 09:59
Vienna is the nicest city I have been to in continental Europe. Doesn't have the best mongering, but as a city it was "par excellence". Isn't that French? LOLOLOL!Yes Vienna is beautiful and with brothels, when maisons closes were closed in Paris and escorts level fell, but Saint Petersburg is just wow, museum town and not only Ermitage, Peterhof is just wow, falling in Baltic, and what a models contest in streets, just wow for eyes, but better to speak a bit of Russian. Born, living and working daily in Paris for more than half century, even working at risk outside under covid since mid March, I don t stay in my bed close to heater, waiting to be paid by french government because I would lose too much money and my clients would not like delay, so I check and test risks for my teams before them, and still healthy and powerful according to my sporty climbing's Summer and what girls say: You fuck more than in 20's guys, when they feel something inside them, when having to be careful not to hurt them with most, so, beautiful cultural Paris is not so bad for my health, even too much traffic jam which daily stress me. And from France medical strategy, I won t get vaccine, so I will have to resist more than 10 years more, working in so risky Paris, being daily at risk, but when rider in mountains, happy to keep on being a warrior in Paris, Les Mureaux 78 , Sarcelles / Garges les Gonesses 95 , Saint Denis / Pierrefitte 93 , for good interesting experiences in my life, with no fear, but meeting one of the 2 women of my life, for six years together, first met in Sarcelles where she lived and worked, and anywhere we went together, all guys were looking at her, with her so beautiful face and little girl smile, even in famous restaurants on famous most beautiful avenue in the world Champs Elysées as called all over the world.

Turgid
12-23-20, 14:30
Sorry but you have countries were you can go everywhere, Switzerland, Austria, Luxembourg, Poland, Slovenia, Korea, China, Japan, Hungary. There the police and the justice are doing their job. Every one has is own taste, I am half French and really I don't know what is French cuisine, the habits are so different from north to south but they are common points, very expensive and bad service. That is why I like Italian cuisine or Chinese or Japanese before you enter you know which kind of food you will get.I probably ought to stand corrected regarding safety issues in countries. Of the countries you listed I have been to Switzerland, Austria and China. I walked everywhere at night in these three countries and had no problems except that I almost got into a fight with some drunk blokes in Vienna way back in 1973.

My father's mother was from France so I guess that makes me quarter French but I never really liked so called French cuisine. I absolutely do not like Eastern cuisine. I suffer for food in China, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, India, Malaysia, etc. In most of those countries especially India and Thailand you are consuming spices with food intermingled. I don't like the taste. I like good old American food, steak, baked potatoes, corn on the cob, mushrooms and veggies, pot roast, NYC pizza, Jambalaya, ham, wild salmon, baked beans, meatloaf, apple pie, barbecue ribs, lobster thermidor, etc. I also like Caribbean and Latin American cuisine.

Mursenary
12-23-20, 14:44
This is becoming funnier by the day. Of course it is too little too late. The whole world should have banned the Asians, particularly the Chinese travelers, back in January 2020 or before, even before I suggested that on this board. But hey, the smart people said that would have been Xenophobic, some of you in USA even voted for a guy just last month who was saying that. Enjoy your isolated life forever, while I try to salvage my normal life with FKK girls from the mess of lockdowns that many of you still support. Wake up if you want to lead a normal life before you die in your basement.

NYT: Can Travel Bans Really Stop the Spread of Coronavirus Variants? Experts Are Skeptical (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/world/europe/travel-bans-coronavirus-variants.html).Nice bro. Oddly enough, the most cogent of your thoughts. Hyperbolic and chronologically flawed, but oddly the most cogent nonetheless.

Hope everyone realizes that racism will get worse before it gets better. Buckle up Buckeroos.

The Cane
12-23-20, 14:55
We don't really say 'par excellence' in French, maybe you could say 'la creme de la creme'. I forgot Amsterdam in the list of the most beautiful cities in Europe but I think that right now my favourite one would be Krakow. I have to see Prague this year. Dubrovnik is beautiful too but technically it's a small city.And you don't consider Krakow to be small? Because I do. It's a lovely place, but really not in the same league as some of the other cities you have mentioned in terms of size. It's overall weak for mongering too, but I did get me some hehehe!

BigBuddy69
12-23-20, 16:13
The guy is half French, half Chinese, half German, a former pro athlete. He's been a lot of things, he fucks so many women for free, yet he finds the time to come and write ad nauseam 'over fucked prostitutes blablabla'.

I wonder what's happening.

BigBuddy69
12-23-20, 16:16
The historic center of Krakow is rather small but I don't think that the whole city is so small compared to the other ones. And the history of Krakow is fascinating.

Paulie97
12-23-20, 16:46
This is becoming funnier by the day. Of course it is too little too late. The whole world should have banned the Asians, particularly the Chinese travelers, back in January 2020 or before, even before I suggested that on this board. But hey, the smart people said that would have been Xenophobic, some of you in USA even voted for a guy just last month who was saying that. Enjoy your isolated life forever, while I try to salvage my normal life with FKK girls from the mess of lockdowns that many of you still support. Wake up if you want to lead a normal life before you die in your basement.

NYT: Can Travel Bans Really Stop the Spread of Coronavirus Variants? Experts Are Skeptical (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/world/europe/travel-bans-coronavirus-variants.html).Quit crying day after day in a monger forum and go live your "normal life. " If you are in an area with "restrictions" then come here to Florida. In my city all the strip clubs are cranking better than ever by all reports (I don't go in them), the booze is flowing, no masks inside, lap dances are full contact and plenty of strippers are selling sex on the side. Or, fly down to Colombia. No Covid tests or insurance are required for entry. It's essentially business as usual, Facebook girls are working, brothels are all open, as are the strip clubs which have rooms on site. There are plenty of people like you who aren't concerned about catching Covid and likewise aren't concerned about spreading it to others. Quit crying all over your keyboard and go join them!

We have a worldwide pandemic going on. These happen periodically, and have since the beginning of recorded history. They often last a couple of years or so. When considering a lifetime, that's a short period of time. And one can follow some reasonable guidelines, mask and social distance while having some quality of life, and all without living as a shut in. It all requires some patience though and concern for the well being of others. But you have options.

McAdonis
12-23-20, 17:32
Chinese buffet in Europe have nothing to do with Chinese cuisine, usually in the different China towns you get real Chinese food, like in NY or Budapest, but it is not true for Chinatown in Paris where mostly Vietnamese and Cambodia people live. Easy for me to test I just need to speak mandarin usually they don t understand. Chines cuisine has a big diversity from the North in Harbin to the South in Guangdong or in the West with Sichuan.Okay, I will phrase the question more clearly. On a scale of 1-10, what was your impression of Chinese food when you lived in France? And what was your rating for Chinese food after living there for 5 years?

I have spoken with a lot of White-American and White-Europeans who have worked or studied in China. As far as food goes, it was culture shock for them. Some of these expats never liked Chinese food at all before living in China. Or some were initially terrified to find out that their favourite Westernized versions of Chinese food back home do not exist at all in China. No "Orange Chicken" and no "Arroz Chaufa". But most just eventually adapted to and started to really appreciate authentic Chinese food. For students, it was an economic necessity because Western food is considerably more expensive than local Chinese street food. In general, millennials are more adventurous with foods because (1) they want to get an Instagram shot, and (2) there is social pressure especially amongst educated, "liberal snowflake" millennials to be more "worldly". So they try the food and slowly over time begin to like it.

McAdonis
12-23-20, 17:37
I absolutely do not like Eastern cuisine. I suffer for food in China, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, India, Malaysia, etc. In most of those countries especially India and Thailand you are consuming spices with food intermingled. I don't like the taste. I like good old American food, steak, baked potatoes, corn on the cob, mushrooms and veggies, pot roast, NYC pizza, Jambalaya, ham, wild salmon, baked beans, meatloaf, apple pie, barbecue ribs, lobster thermidor, etc. I also like Caribbean and Latin American cuisine.Most people give up on a cuisine after only sampling a subset of that cuisine's dishes. As an American, it is normal for you to like your own cuisine. But I am guessing you don't like 100 percent of your country's cuisine. For instance, somebody from Iowa might not necessarily appreciate a Maine lobster roll. Even when you start to sample a fuller range of dishes from a particular cuisine, sometimes you still have to try a dish at multiple restaurants before you start to appreciate it. I could go to twenty different burger places, or I can try NYC slices from twenty different pizza shops. They are not all created equal. Chances are, I will like 2-3 spot significantly more than the rest. And the best one, may not necessarily be the one with the most reviews on TripAdvisor. Or the place that a famous celebrity chef visited.

Certain foods just take longer to get used to. You have a distaste for Eastern cuisine. Well for 3 billion of the world's population that is their favourite cuisine. On the opposite end of the world, most Chinese have a distaste for cheese. It is completely foreign to them. And many Chinese who try cheese for the first time will literally spit it out, which is illogical because most of the rest of the world has a love affair with cheese. In fact, Chinese tourists are notorious for travelling everywhere as a group by bus. So on a trip to USA, they might try one burger place and one BBQ place, and then eat nothing but Chinese food the for rest of their meals. And then they would dismiss American food as disgusting after only trying two dishes from two different restaurants. That said, millennial Chinese are starting to warm up to the taste of cheese but 50-year old Chinese who grew up before globalisation and Instagram not so much.

Sirioja
12-23-20, 22:06
Even Chinese government lie and many Chinese are scared about their own government, but just a shame to say they should be forbidden to travel, even I think their production is low level for cheap rate.

Sirioja
12-23-20, 22:24
Sorry but you have countries were you can go everywhere, Switzerland, Austria, Luxembourg, Poland, Slovenia, Korea, China, Japan, Hungary. There the police and the justice are doing their job. Every one has is own taste, I am half French and really I don't know what is French cuisine, the habits are so different from north to south but they are common points, very expensive and bad service. That is why I like Italian cuisine or Chinese or Japanese before you enter you know which kind of food you will get.Part French? Really? As 100 % French, I feel safe in my country, much more safe than in Switzerland where they don't respect your rights, where polizei and administration steal you. Did you walk at night around Mainhattan Frankfurt?

ExpatLover
12-24-20, 05:22
Even Chinese government lie and many Chinese are scared about their own government, but just a shame to say they should be forbidden to travel, even I think their production is low level for cheap rate.May be like me you should live several decades in China, having a Chinese driving license, speaking some Chinese to have a better understanding. You like cars, the biggest Bosch factory is in China Wuxi. Mostly all the Apple products are manufactured in China, mostly all the batteries, wind mills. Because you think the French government is not lying when just today ago they try to pass a new law just before Christmas to oblige people to be vaccine about covid.

Turgid
12-24-20, 14:50
Most people give up on a cuisine after only sampling a subset of that cuisine's dishes. As an American, it is normal for you to like your own cuisine. But I am guessing you don't like 100 percent of your country's cuisine. For instance, somebody from Iowa might not necessarily appreciate a Maine lobster roll. Even when you start to sample a fuller range of dishes from a particular cuisine, sometimes you still have to try a dish at multiple restaurants before you start to appreciate it. I could go to twenty different burger places, or I can try NYC slices from twenty different pizza shops. They are not all created equal. Chances are, I will like 2-3 spot significantly more than the rest. And the best one, may not necessarily be the one with the most reviews on TripAdvisor. Or the place that a famous celebrity chef visited.

Certain foods just take longer to get used to. You have a distaste for Eastern cuisine. Well for 3 billion of the world's population that is their favourite cuisine. On the opposite end of the world, most Chinese have a distaste for cheese. It is completely foreign to them. And many Chinese who try cheese for the first time will literally spit it out, which is illogical because most of the rest of the world has a love affair with cheese. In fact, Chinese tourists are notorious for travelling everywhere as a group by bus. So on a trip to USA, they might try one burger place and one BBQ place, and then eat nothing but Chinese food the for rest of their meals. And then they would dismiss American food as disgusting after only trying two dishes from two different restaurants. That said, millennial Chinese are starting to warm up to the taste of cheese but 50-year old Chinese who grew up before globalisation and Instagram not so much.Good advice maybe for a 16 year old or maybe even a 26 year old but not for a 66 year old who has travelled the length and breadth of the US for many decades and all over Europe, from Canada to Argentina, throughout the Caribbean and all over Asia while sampling cuisines from all over the world for over fifty years.

Turgid
12-24-20, 15:00
...The whole world should have banned the Asians, particularly the Chinese travelers, back in January 2020 or before, even before I suggested that on this board.....It is said that hindsight is 20 20, for good reason. Back in January, 2020 news came out of a new coronavirus from which one man in China died. At the time did you think that all Asians should be banned from travelling? The news was so innocuous that I booked my trip to Germany for 3 months. I travelled in the middle of January but had to beat a hasty retreat in the middle of March. In any event it is said that covid 19 was already in Europe way back in October, 2019.

Sirioja
12-24-20, 16:36
May be like me you should live several decades in China, having a Chinese driving license, speaking some Chinese to have a better understanding. You like cars, the biggest Bosch factory is in China Wuxi. Mostly all the Apple products are manufactured in China, mostly all the batteries, wind mills. Because you think the French government is not lying when just today ago they try to pass a new law just before Christmas to oblige people to be vaccine about covid.Real French like me would only be scared about LE Pen or other extremes or integrists, but thinking is one thing, when making is different, and no compulsory vaccine in France, even many old don t want to play cobaye. I m sure China is a interesting country for past culture, but now, production is just made there because cheap, not for quality, with US culture to change very often. Yes I love cars, I bought for first car a H3 E21 for my 21 and improved it with some Alpina pieces when I was still studying, not working yet, but working more than 16 hours per day on most of my Summer holidays to spend on her. I got a legendary RS500 Cosworth for nearly 25 years. I met a guy few months ago for job, after 15 years, and he asked me: You still have? He didn't forget the waste gate 1,8 bars noise and fire behind the car. For both, my girlfriends were jealous about my love for my creations. So, with such culture and still, fighting with Audi, can t drive Chinese, not my quality. Cars batteries are built in China with big pollution when China don't care and also about their citizens, electric cars are just big hypocrisy, just moving pollution in China, but on our earth.

Mursenary
12-24-20, 19:02
Good advice maybe for a 16 year old or maybe even a 26 year old but not for a 66 year old who has travelled the length and breadth of the US for many decades and all over Europe, from Canada to Argentina, throughout the Caribbean and all over Asia while sampling cuisines from all over the world for over fifty years.Number of years lived does not equate to quality of years lived.

Merry Christmas to everyone.

Turgid
12-25-20, 14:54
Number of years lived does not equate to quality of years lived.

Merry Christmas to everyone.You apparently have some regrets seeing that the only person you know on ISG is yourself. Merry Christmas to one and all.

Mursenary
12-25-20, 15:14
You apparently have some regrets seeing that the only person you know on ISG is yourself. Merry Christmas to one and all.Not even sure what that's supposed to mean. But okay.

Gino02
12-25-20, 16:53
It is said that hindsight is 20 20, for good reason. Back in January, 2020 news came out of a new coronavirus from which one man in China died. At the time did you think that all Asians should be banned from travelling? The news was so innocuous that I booked my trip to Germany for 3 months. I travelled in the middle of January but had to beat a hasty retreat in the middle of March. In any event it is said that covid 19 was already in Europe way back in October, 2019.Well, more reasons they should have been banned even earlier, going forward maybe forever because those countries keep producing new deadly virus every decade! Go one decade without producing another deadly pathogen, then the ban would be relaxed. I know it's a draconian drastic stance, but that's exactly what now we are doing to ourselves for their repeat offences / mistakes anyway!

We must be smart and forward looking, not chasing our tails after the shit happens.

Mursenary
12-25-20, 17:38
Well, more reasons they should have been banned even earlier, going forward maybe forever because those countries keep producing new deadly virus every decade! Go one decade without producing another deadly pathogen, then the ban would be relaxed. I know it's a draconian drastic stance, but that's exactly what now we are doing to ourselves for their repeat offences / mistakes anyway!

We must be smart and forward looking, not chasing our tails after the shit happens.Next thing you know, we'll be throwing babies off of cliffs.

"This is Sparrta!

That's inner voice that tells you to do evil things, you should address that problem.

Jmioffe
12-26-20, 13:03
https://indica.medium.com/its-been-a-year-white-people-can-t-blame-china-anymore-878d9f2b4a34

PedroMorales
12-26-20, 13:13
https://indica.medium.com/its-been-a-year-white-people-can-t-blame-china-anymore-878d9f2b4a34The guy is an obvious nutter with his talk of white nations. India, just to his north, has the world's third highest number of Covid fatalities (Brazil is in second place).

McAdonis
12-26-20, 13:24
Good advice maybe for a 16 year old or maybe even a 26 year old but not for a 66 year old who has travelled the length and breadth of the US for many decades and all over Europe, from Canada to Argentina, throughout the Caribbean and all over Asia while sampling cuisines from all over the world for over fifty years.Just making generalized observations, not all were directed towards you. I commend you for at least trying local cuisine. Almost 60 percent of American tourists avoid locals cuisines when travelling abroad: https://www.travelpulse.com/news/features/majority-of-americans-dont-try-local-cuisine-on-vacation.html.

Prior to the 1920's, most Anglo-Americans limited or avoided their exposure to Italian food due to bias. Anglo-Americans of the time considered Italian food too "garlicky and spicy". As a result, the mainstream acceptance of what is arguably America's favourite ethnic (albeit Americanized) cuisine was delayed by decades, and a generation of Americans missed out. In 1945, "pizza" was not widely known in the USA outside of the cities with large Italian enclaves: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/food/the-plate/2016/05/04/how-italian-cuisine-became-as-american-as-apple-pie/.

In an earlier post, I stated that baby-boomer Chinese tourists were biased toward Western food. I would say the opposite is true as well: there are a fair amount of Westerners born prior to the 1980's who have a distaste or bias against non-Western cuisine. At the same time, some of the most celebrated chefs from white Western countries list Asian food and restaurants among their favourites. Are these chefs just ahead of their time? https://www.vogue.com/article/worlds-best-chefs-share-their-favorite-food-cities.

I would argue that "sampling" the full spectrum of a nation's cuisine would require hundreds of sit-down meals. If sampling Thai cuisine means trying 10 dishes at 5-6 restaurants on your first trip to Bangkok in 1975 and then refusing to eat Thai food on all subsequent trips since, I would say that is not sufficient. Now if one gets a Thai GF or over time has many meals with Thai colleagues and friends, then real culinary sampling happens. These social situations force you to not only try a larger variety of dishes, but also to try the same dish multiple times by multiple chefs. At the very least a foreigner can find one or two "safe" dishes from that cuisine that they consistently order. I used 1975 as a hypothetical year here, but my guess is the 1975 Bangkok food scene is different from that of 1995 or 2020.

McAdonis
12-26-20, 15:02
Well, more reasons they should have been banned even earlier, going forward maybe forever because those countries keep producing new deadly virus every decade! Go one decade without producing another deadly pathogen, then the ban would be relaxed.The strain of CV19 that entered the USA did not come directly from China but via Western Europe. To implement the travel ban you are speaking of, a hundred plus countries would need to collectively sign off and ban East Asians from entering. This would effectively establish two travel corridors. Every country in the world would be forced to pick a side or decide which travel corridor they want to belong to. If India chooses to allow Chinese to enter India (or Indians to travel to China), then no Indians would be allowed to enter USA or Western Europe. And nobody from USA or Western Europe would be allowed to enter India.

The problem is there are millions of non-Asians living, studying, and working in East Asia. And there are millions of East-Asians living, studying, and working in Europe. Would these people be banned from visiting family in their home countries? Or would they be forced to enter a 30-day quarantine at both ends of travel?

I could imagine Westerners, even the ones with no social, business, or romantic connections to East Asia protesting about the loss of their individual rights and freedom of movement. "If I want to travel to China and risk being infected by some yet to be discovered pathogen, I should be allowed to do so!" And the sexpats in the Thai forums would definitely align with that cause.

Turgid
12-26-20, 15:17
Not even sure what that's supposed to mean. But okay.You obviously have cognitive problems in addition to the others. Know what that means?

Mursenary
12-26-20, 15:47
You obviously have cognitive problems in addition to the others. Know what that means?Well that seems unnecessary. Alzheimer's setting in already?

ShooBree
12-26-20, 16:25
https://indica.medium.com/its-been-a-year-white-people-can-t-blame-china-anymore-878d9f2b4a34He manifest everything what's wrong with the world and in particularly the internet and social media.

The dude is completely clueless, unintelligent, uneducated, irrelevant and best left to rot away writing BS for obscure sites that simply cannot get enough of race baiting. Or maybe he's just getting paid by the CCP.

Mursenary
12-26-20, 16:58
https://indica.medium.com/its-been-a-year-white-people-can-t-blame-china-anymore-878d9f2b4a34He could have made all of those points without being so polarizing. Regardless of the valid facts he pointed out, the blog only enflames the venomous thoughts of people who think like Gino and Shoo.

Mursenary
12-26-20, 17:08
The guy is an obvious nutter with his talk of white nations. India, just to his north, has the world's third highest number of Covid fatalities (Brazil is in second place).Per capita cases versus raw case numbers. Duh.

Half the (documented) cases in India with 4 times the population of USA.

Only four times the (documented) cases in India with 20 times the population of France.

Sirioja
12-26-20, 22:19
I remember on September 2018 at LR when I needed 11 months to find a new interesting beauty for me, but when she threw me her towel in face, when I went and asked to sit with her, when I took only her hand and look at her feet nails, when she was a bit crazy around the bar and lounge, but what a changing behavior after 2 minutes sitting with her, and what a good surprise after. After 4 times really enjoying her becoming woman behavior, I told her I couldn't come on next Thursday evening, when we finished enjoyable weekly room after pizzas and she prepared me a sandwich when no more pizzas. One here told me he would prefer my sandwich than pizzas, when I would have preferred pizzas even she was really lovely, but I preferred to enjoy this natural beauty rather than pizzas. I sent her I could come after Zoncolan. She asked me where was Zocolan? I told her nearly on Slovenian border, in Frioul, nearly 1000 kms away from LR, but I could drive after Zoncolan through mountains, Austria, Bavaria, to her. If he doesn't know what is Zoncolan, but when Italians see you arriving on top from Ovaro, the most difficult side, then you are a heroe for Italians, when I climbed more than 5 times since I discovered driving a BMW Xdrive and thought more than 200 CV could not climb, but after Federico Bahamontes. SP picture, when body and head full burning, then you don't feel anymore pain, and as long I will be able to climb, or Mortirolo, then I know I don't need vaccine nor viagra to fuck more than in 20's guys as say girls, but this one here knew very well how to show my writings here to good surprise. Very different behavior as say girls.

Mursenary
12-27-20, 05:52
If one contributor has 4 k posts in 2 years is it a blog or forum. I personally miss the clubs as well as posts that provide information about women in a specific club. I remember one time reading a post about an amazing sounding woman at a club just to later find out it was a report on a different lady at a different club in a different country. I asked a girl about Climbing Zoncolan one time. She talked to me about Champaign and Caviar but said she couldn't offer Zoncolan. A colan massage was also an option. All these code words are such a puzzle to me. BTW, that massage was curious of the end of her tongue which really surprised me.Was this the same woman who was with a client in a room, stepped out to get pizza, then proceeded to French kiss another client in the hallway before she returned to the chump waiting in the room for her?

Gino02
12-27-20, 06:03
The strain of CV19 that entered the USA did not come directly from China but via Western Europe. To implement the travel ban you are speaking of, a hundred plus countries would need to collectively sign off and ban East Asians from entering. This would effectively establish two travel corridors. Every country in the world would be forced to pick a side or decide which travel corridor they want to belong to. If India chooses to allow Chinese to enter India (or Indians to travel to China), then no Indians would be allowed to enter USA or Western Europe. And nobody from USA or Western Europe would be allowed to enter India.

The problem is there are millions of non-Asians living, studying, and working in East Asia. And there are millions of East-Asians living, studying, and working in Europe. Would these people be banned from visiting family in their home countries? Or would they be forced to enter a 30-day quarantine at both ends of travel?

I could imagine Westerners, even the ones with no social, business, or romantic connections to East Asia protesting about the loss of their individual rights and freedom of movement. "If I want to travel to China and risk being infected by some yet to be discovered pathogen, I should be allowed to do so!" And the sexpats in the Thai forums would definitely align with that cause.Your thoughts aren't too far fetched, we are already seeing so many countries doing selective travel bans (eg British people banned in EU countries now). Who would have imagined that there will be so many travel bans for almost a year now, and most people seems to be okay with it. If this is ok by people, I wouldn't be surprised this one year becomes one decade. And if it's OK to ban British people, what's wrong with banning Asian people?

Gino02
12-27-20, 06:15
Quit crying day after day in a monger forum and go live your "normal life. " If you are in an area with "restrictions" then come here to Florida. In my city all the strip clubs are cranking better than ever by all reports (I don't go in them), the booze is flowing, no masks inside, lap dances are full contact and plenty of strippers are selling sex on the side. Or, fly down to Colombia. No Covid tests or insurance are required for entry. It's essentially business as usual, Facebook girls are working, brothels are all open, as are the strip clubs which have rooms on site. There are plenty of people like you who aren't concerned about catching Covid and likewise aren't concerned about spreading it to others. Quit crying all over your keyboard and go join them!

We have a worldwide pandemic going on. These happen periodically, and have since the beginning of recorded history. They often last a couple of years or so. When considering a lifetime, that's a short period of time. And one can follow some reasonable guidelines, mask and social distance while having some quality of life, and all without living as a shut in. It all requires some patience though and concern for the well being of others. But you have options.How are the Covid-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths situations in Florida and Columbia compared to New York and Germany now in your opinion?

ShooBree
12-27-20, 12:45
He could have made all of those points without being so polarizing. Regardless of the valid facts he pointed out, the blog only enflames the venomous thoughts of people who think like Gino and Shoo.Yikes, you should get a life (or a friend) instead of obsessing over me. Maybe you should see a professional, and I'm not talking about a prostitute. LMFAO!

You should take a look in the mirror, or just read and absorb what Turgid wrote about you. He pinned you down perfectly.

You're arrogant, narcissistic and way dumber than you realize. It is embarrassing to read your pathetic posts where you can't get anything right.

Gino02
12-27-20, 18:21
He could have made all of those points without being so polarizing. Regardless of the valid facts he pointed out, the blog only enflames the venomous thoughts of people who think like Gino and Shoo.I agree with you that blog is full of shit. But if we don't ban the origins of these viruses (like we are doing with banning travel from UK now) for a prolonged period, we will keep seeing more and more deadly pathogens coming out of the repeat offenders like China. We can debate how difficult that would be to the people there or people with business or relatives there, but that same logic of difficulty also goes with now banning people from UK.

At the end of the day, rest of the world needs to ban travels to and from China (and any country that allows travel to and from China) until they can prove their credibility by not starting another deadly pathogen for at least a decade. If we don't learn from the multiple horrible experiences like SERS, MERS, Covid-19, and be simply greedy to do business with them, but then end up losing our own life, businesses and locking down ourselves for years, we are simply big stupids who don't learn from the mistakes.

Mursenary
12-27-20, 18:59
And if it's OK to ban British people, what's wrong with banning Asian people?Uh I dunno, maybe because Uk is a country and Asian is a whole race of people. Why you would extrapolate Chinese to all Asian and not British to all Caucasian reveals all we need to know about your mindset.

Mursenary
12-27-20, 19:27
Yikes, you should get a life (or a friend) instead of obsessing over me. Maybe you should see a professional, and I'm not talking about a prostitute. LMFAO!

You should take a look in the mirror, or just read and absorb what Turgid wrote about you. He pinned you down perfectly.

You're arrogant, narcissistic and way dumber than you realize. It is embarrassing to read your pathetic posts where you can't get anything right.Supervillains assemble. So much venom.

BigBuddy69
12-27-20, 19:58
She also offered a CIM and swallowed his load but some drops fell on the pizza.

Gino02
12-27-20, 20:29
Uh I dunno, maybe because Uk is a country and Asian is a whole race of people. Why you would extrapolate Chinese to all Asian and not British to all Caucasian reveals all we need to know about your mindset.You are again twisting the facts. Asia is a continent (and people who live there are Asians), same as UK is a country (and the people who live there are British). My argument is if it is OK to ban all people travelling from UK (a country made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), what's wrong with banning all people travelling from Asia (particularly from the country China)?

Simply ban all flights and other entry points for a decade for people travelling from China (and for people from any other country that allows people traveling from China), if they don't start another deadly pathogen in that decade, then relax the bans. May have to extend this similar ban to people traveling from other Asian countries if any of them starts. You can keep arguing with me on these, but it's being super stupid not to learn after so many repeat offences (SERS, MERS, H1 N1, COVID-19) from the same region.

I have never said all Asians are Chinese, please learn to read first.

Sirioja
12-27-20, 20:34
Was this the same woman who was with a client in a room, stepped out to get pizza, then proceeded to French kiss another client in the hallway before she returned to the chump waiting in the room for her?She didn't get out of room, but I stopped our sex because she told me she didn't have time to eat since our first room when she started at 2 pm, so I proposed her to go to eat pizza, she looked at me with round eyes, for sure no other client never proposed her this before, and we were together in restaurant to take pizzas and we returned to room where we ate, and I didn't see her kissing another guy after she sucked me, when we were around the middle of our room. This was in September 2017, even I could offer her time to eat, my tip for her past behavior, but I preferred to stop with her on mid October 2017, when good surprise was discovered on September 2018, and previous was very angry I chose good surprise, but I didn't know about them, my choice was not to hurt her, when interesting beauties were rare at LR since end of 2017, when some stopped. But you saw at GT how long you had to wait for a girl who asked me to go with her. I only trust facts I see in brothels, not all bullshits written, when previous never told me she preferred to go with claiming guy. Everybody: German guys, staff, knew who she chose.

Sirioja
12-27-20, 21:02
She didn't get out of room, but I stopped our sex because she told me she didn't have time to eat since our first room when she started at 2 pm, so I proposed her to go to eat pizza, she looked at me with round eyes, for sure no other client never proposed her this before, and we were together in restaurant to take pizzas and we returned to room where we ate, and I didn't see her kissing another guy after she sucked me, when we were around the middle of our room. This was in September 2017, even I could offer her time to eat, my tip for her past behavior, but I preferred to stop with her on mid October 2017, when good surprise was discovered on September 2018, and previous was very angry I chose good surprise, but I didn't know about them, my choice was not to hurt her, when interesting beauties were rare at LR since end of 2017, when some stopped. But you saw at GT how long you had to wait for a girl who asked me to go with her. I only trust facts I see in brothels, not all bullshits written, when previous never told me she preferred to go with claiming guy. Everybody: German guys, staff, knew who she chose.I could add one here told me he saw weekly for months, previous who was LR busy superstar coming to me every Friday when starting, and also me with good surprise he showed me, before showing her my writings here, 2 months later. Maybe he will write react facts which happened. Funny was desk still asking me if I waited for previous when I stooped with her for 1 year and came only for good surprise.

ShooBree
12-27-20, 22:30
Supervillains assemble. So much venom.You should grow up and get your act together.

Mursenary
12-27-20, 23:54
She didn't get out of room, but I stopped our sex because she told me she didn't have time to eat since our first room when she started at 2 pm, so I proposed her to go to eat pizza, she looked at me with round eyes, for sure no other client never proposed her this before, and we were together in restaurant to take pizzas and we returned to room where we ate, and I didn't see her kissing another guy after she sucked me, when we were around the middle of our room. This was in September 2017, even I could offer her time to eat, my tip for her past behavior, but I preferred to stop with her on mid October 2017, when good surprise was discovered on September 2018, and previous was very angry I chose good surprise, but I didn't know about them, my choice was not to hurt her, when interesting beauties were rare at LR since end of 2017, when some stopped. But you saw at GT how long you had to wait for a girl who asked me to go with her. I only trust facts I see in brothels, not all bullshits written, when previous never told me she preferred to go with claiming guy. Everybody: German guys, staff, knew who she chose.What does cum drizzled pizza taste like?

Mursenary
12-28-20, 00:11
You are again twisting the facts. Asia is a continent (and people who live there are Asians), same as UK is a country (and the people who live there are British). My argument is if it is OK to ban all people travelling from UK (a country made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), what's wrong with banning all people travelling from Asia (particularly from the country China)?

Simply ban all flights and other entry points for a decade for people travelling from China (and for people from any other country that allows people traveling from China), if they don't start another deadly pathogen in that decade, then relax the bans. May have to extend this similar ban to people traveling from other Asian countries if any of them starts. You can keep arguing with me on these, but it's being super stupid not to learn after so many repeat offences (SERS, MERS, H1 N1, COVID-19) from the same region.

I have never said all Asians are Chinese, please learn to read first.You don't get it, so let's try this again: Why would you propose to exclude all people from the Asian continent for a virus started in China but not exclude all people from the European continent for a strain started in the UK.

By your logic I guess by excluding Asians, you also meant to exclude people from Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Kazakhstan, and Siberian Russia. Or do you just think that East Asians are chronic disease carriers?

This thought process should be interesting.

Mursenary
12-28-20, 03:48
You should grow up and get your act together.But then how would I be able to relate to you?

Gino02
12-28-20, 05:28
You don't get it, so let's try this again: Why would you propose to exclude all people from the Asian continent for a virus started in China but not exclude all people from the European continent for a strain started in the UK.

By your logic I guess by excluding Asians, you also meant to exclude people from Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Kazakhstan, and Siberian Russia. Or do you just think that East Asians are chronic disease carriers?

This thought process should be interesting.Dude,

Do you even know how to read? Or you forgot what your mom taught you "think before speak"? I clearly said ban people from China now for a decade, and ban people from other countries who start another deadly pathogen or if they continue to allow travel to and from China.

Repeat offenders must be proactively handled or we will keep seeing pandemics every few years. If we don't ban the Chinese people now, we shouldn't blame them when the next Chinese deadly pathogen hits us, it's our fault of not taking the necessary steps proactively.

Sirioja
12-28-20, 06:19
What does cum drizzled pizza taste like?If she followed me to improve in bed, and never said limit, but we didn't have same tastes for pizzas, she took hers in her plate and I took mine, she took drinks at the bar, maximum 5 minutes off the room and we returned to eat and finishing our second room of the day, like weekly for months. I don t remember she told me she preferred to go with another one, because for sure, I would have answered: Go, run. And of course, we repeated on next Friday. No more pizzas, all eaten, when we finished with good surprise, 1 year later, so lovely to go to kitchen and prepare me a sandwich. Pizzas were my tip for my respect for previous, maybe sandwich was my tip from good surprise, for my behavior with her. Maybe also why Lucifer. De came 3 times to me when full busy at GT, and came again at Velbert 1 month later, when I left our room at Palace after 15 mn, 9 months ago. In real life, a way for a woman to love a man is to prepare him to eat.

Sirioja
12-28-20, 07:00
Chinese government hide and lied from October 2019 to January 2020 and even after for figures, when UK was just isolated for 48 hours, to know a bit about virus mutant, when UK won t be isolated from EU after brexit start. I think good point for both economy for UK and EU. Vaccine started now in many countries, wish will protect people who need and medical, but as far I understood, should protect but not prevent from catching and giving to others, so how to stop spreading? Even wish deaths will lower, when young ones don't care much about.

Chongmal
12-28-20, 15:31
Was this the same woman who was with a client in a room, stepped out to get pizza, then proceeded to French kiss another client in the hallway before she returned to the chump waiting in the room for her?It seems to bring back memories for some people. I personally don't remember the night described but I was most likely there in the kitchen. The night that brings back memories was when a client almost struck disaster with a lit cigarette. Brings new meaning to fire in bed on a forum when actual burning objects are involved. I guess it was some attempted foreplay gone wrong or perhaps he was a jilted lover like the guy who set off stink bombs in Frankfurt. Heck, it could have possible been the same one.

Mursenary
12-28-20, 17:24
This is becoming funnier by the day. Of course it is too little too late. The whole world should have banned the Asians, particularly the Chinese travelers, back in January 2020 or before, even before I suggested that on this board.
It is said that hindsight is 20 20, for good reason. Back in January, 2020 news came out of a new coronavirus from which one man in China died. At the time did you think that all Asians should be banned from travelling?
Well, more reasons they should have been banned even earlier, going forward maybe forever because those countries keep producing new deadly virus every decade! Go one decade without producing another deadly pathogen, then the ban would be relaxed.

And if it's OK to ban British people, what's wrong with banning Asian people?
Uh I dunno, maybe because Uk is a country and Asian is a whole race of people. Why you would extrapolate Chinese to all Asian and not British to all Caucasian reveals all we need to know about your mindset.
You are again twisting the facts. Asia is a continent (and people who live there are Asians), same as UK is a country (and the people who live there are British). My argument is if it is OK to ban all people travelling from UK (a country made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), what's wrong with banning all people travelling from Asia (particularly from the country China)?

Simply ban all flights and other entry points for a decade for people travelling from China (and for people from any other country that allows people traveling from China), if they don't start another deadly pathogen in that decade, then relax the bans. May have to extend this similar ban to people traveling from other Asian countries if any of them starts. You can keep arguing with me on these, but it's being super stupid not to learn after so many repeat offences (SERS, MERS, H1 N1, COVID-19) from the same region.

I have never said all Asians are Chinese, please learn to read first.
You don't get it, so let's try this again: Why would you propose to exclude all people from the Asian continent for a virus started in China but not exclude all people from the European continent for a strain started in the UK.

By your logic I guess by excluding Asians, you also meant to exclude people from Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Kazakhstan, and Siberian Russia. Or do you just think that East Asians are chronic disease carriers?

Do you even know how to read? Or you forgot what your mom taught you "think before speak"? I clearly said ban people from China now for a decade, and ban people from other countries who start another deadly pathogen or if they continue to allow travel to and from China.Nah, paper trail says otherwise. You definitely lumped all Asians together and proposed a ban on all Asians regardless of nationality while not applying the same standard to the Brits.

It's cool man. Your original unabashed stance was just fine. No need to backtrack. I'd rather deal with an out-of-the-closet bigot than a clandestine one. Own that shit. Be you.

Mursenary
12-28-20, 17:27
If she followed me to improve in bed, and never said limit, but we didn't have same tastes for pizzas, she took hers in her plate and I took mine, she took drinks at the bar, maximum 5 minutes off the room and we returned to eat and finishing our second room of the day, like weekly for months. I don t remember she told me she preferred to go with another one, because for sure, I would have answered: Go, run. And of course, we repeated on next Friday. No more pizzas, all eaten, when we finished with good surprise, 1 year later, so lovely to go to kitchen and prepare me a sandwich. Pizzas were my tip for my respect for previous, maybe sandwich was my tip from good surprise, for my behavior with her. Maybe also why Lucifer. De came 3 times to me when full busy at GT, and came again at Velbert 1 month later, when I left our room at Palace after 15 mn, 9 months ago. In real life, a way for a woman to love a man is to prepare him to eat.So a little creamy? Or like eating oysters?

Sirioja
12-28-20, 20:24
So a little creamy? Or like eating oysters?I liked her milky sticky nearly squirting juice, but she didn't want to taste her on my fingers. Of course, not like claimed Spanish who took so many towels when going to room, the one I advised you when you asked me, not able to choose a girl by yourself. Even we were together to take pizzas, if she really DFK another guy, then he got my dick taste when we already had foreplay and she was fast to return with me to room, rather than staying with him, she also didn't waste time to eat, she ate fast, I remember not even finishing her pizzas, she said she took too much, when I finished mine and she had to wait I finished, then we finished our sex as usual, with about 10 rooms for 15 hours per month. I don't remember any problem in restaurant on this night of September 2917, nor in September 2018 when I was surprised no more pizza at 30 past midnight when we finished, so got a sandwich prepared by my girl. Who here got same from his girl?

Paulie97
12-28-20, 21:55
Simply ban all flights and other entry points for a decade for people travelling from China (and for people from any other country that allows people traveling from China), if they don't start another deadly pathogen in that decade, then relax the bans. May have to extend this similar ban to people traveling from other Asian countries if any of them starts. You can keep arguing with me on these, but it's being super stupid not to learn after so many repeat offences (SERS, MERS, H1 N1, COVID-19) from the same region.What did you learn this? News Max? The Rush Limbaugh Show? What is SERS? The only reference I can find for that involves a viral detection method. Enlighten me please, and make the connection to China. MERS was first discovered in Saudi Arabia and most cases have come from that region.

https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-may-2020-mers-saudi-arabia/en/

No one knows where H1 N1 or the Spanish Flu originated, but most theorize Western Europe or the US. The 2009 Swine Flu was first identified in Mexico.

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

In any case there's been a lot of epidemics, plagues, and pandemics throughout the ages and most aren't traced to China.

https://www.healthline.com/health/worst-disease-outbreaks-history#smallpox.

https://www.livescience.com/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html

Once the cat got out of the bag the biggest problem in the US was stupid rednecks and their associated behaviors. Sadly that disease is chronic, with no cure in sight, and it will add fuel to the fire of a pandemic every time. A lot of countries did well, especially ones in Asia or the Asia Pacific, Thailand, New Zealand, Taiwan, etc.

Gino02
12-28-20, 21:58
China sentences citizen journalist to four years in prison for Wuhan lockdown reports (https://www.foxnews.com/world/citizen-journalist-in-china-who-reported-on-covid-19-sentenced-to-4-years).

Gino02
12-29-20, 01:52
Japan bans entry from all countries to block new strain's spread (https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-bans-entry-from-all-countries-to-block-new-strain-s-spread).

Now what would be wrong with all other countries banning people from Japan? I am always ahead of you slow people in thinking what's coming and what should happen, like I said back in January to ban Asians, particularly the Chinese, into any other continent (and in FKKs as far as this forum is concerned). Want to try again to prove me wrong? LOL.

Mursenary
12-29-20, 02:01
I liked her milky sticky nearly squirting juice, but she didn't want to taste her on my fingers. Of course, not like claimed Spanish who took so many towels when going to room, the one I advised you when you asked me, not able to choose a girl by yourself. Even we were together to take pizzas, if she really DFK another guy, then he got my dick taste when we already had foreplay and she was fast to return with me to room, rather than staying with him, she also didn't waste time to eat, she ate fast, I remember not even finishing her pizzas, she said she took too much, when I finished mine and she had to wait I finished, then we finished our sex as usual, with about 10 rooms for 15 hours per month. I don't remember any problem in restaurant on this night of September 2917, nor in September 2018 when I was surprised no more pizza at 30 past midnight when we finished, so got a sandwich prepared by my girl. Who here got same from his girl?Got it. So you're saying swallowing cum was like swallowing a raw oyster. Good for you!

Mursenary
12-29-20, 02:17
Vaccine started now in many countries, wish will protect people who need and medical, but as far I understood, should protect but not prevent from catching and giving to others, so how to stop spreading?Because after many repeated attempts of explaining it, you either refuse to or are incapable of understanding the concept of (R 0), basic reproductive number, and its relationship to the path to herd immunity.

Mursenary
12-29-20, 02:25
Japan bans entry from all countries to block new strain's spread (https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-bans-entry-from-all-countries-to-block-new-strain-s-spread).

Now what would be wrong with all other countries banning people from Japan? I am always ahead of you slow people in thinking what's coming and what should happen, like I said back in January to ban Asians, particularly the Chinese, into any other continent (and in FKKs as far as this forum is concerned). Want to try again to prove me wrong? LOL.Right out of the Trump playbook. Never admit wrong and just skip to the next calamity while ignoring all facts that are evident to all others. It really has become a neck and neck race to the bottom between you and Shoo.

Just say it out loud and get it off your chest, "I am a white supremacist bigot."

Jimmy Boy 99
12-29-20, 02:42
Enough already with the stupid posts.

Mursenary
12-29-20, 03:25
Enough already with the stupid posts.You're not my dad.

PaulInZurich
12-29-20, 03:59
Got it. So you're saying swallowing cum was like swallowing a raw oyster. Good for you!Thumbs up, hilarious thread.

Sirioja
12-29-20, 07:07
Enough already with the stupid posts.Frustrated jealous have only this, or showing to girls what we write here, as did some here, one even sending by email to LR, when normal process, reason to go in brothels, for me, is to get girls we want and to get what we want from our girls, each one own level and standard for this of course. I remember one here writing she was always full busy, I don t understand, she came to me to start her day every Friday and asked for second room later at night, she could change her appointments with bigger money for me and I loved her behavior for me, when many were waiting for her, so she could choose to go with others, but she never told me she preferred to go with claiming in restaurant, when she thanked me for my behavior to give her time to eat. Must be a reason for real facts happening, and I remember on January 2018 at LR and GT. Now I wish her to be free, to get her money for her, after fucking with everybody as she turned, and to have a woman life, and wish a good health and success for business to good surprise.

Sirioja
12-29-20, 07:27
Number 1: US 320000 but can't really know with so many illegals and with no healthcare, more than 60 millions people.

Number 2: Brazil, and Russia where we start now to get the truth, with nearly 200.000. Won't be enough vaccines and maybe Russia aim to sell Sputnik.

Can't know the truth for China.

UK more than 70.000.

Italy nearly 70.000.

France not far from 65.000 and Spain more than 60.000.

Too many deaths, wish for 2021 vaccines will be efficient to protect weak and medical, but vaccines don t prevent to catch and give, so not enough to stop spreading, when pharma won t produce enough for all those who want and if efficient, but nobody know for how long? Bad killer virus.

Gino02
12-29-20, 07:27
What did you learn this? News Max? The Rush Limbaugh Show? What is SERS? The only reference I can find for that involves a viral detection method. Enlighten me please, and make the connection to China. MERS was first discovered in Saudi Arabia and most cases have come from that region.

https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-may-2020-mers-saudi-arabia/en/

No one knows where H1 N1 or the Spanish Flu originated, but most theorize Western Europe or the US. The 2009 Swine Flu was first identified in Mexico.

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

In any case there's been a lot of epidemics, plagues, and pandemics throughout the ages and most aren't traced to China.

https://www.healthline.com/health/worst-disease-outbreaks-history#smallpox.

https://www.livescience.com/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html

Once the cat got out of the bag the biggest problem in the US was stupid rednecks and their associated behaviors. Sadly that disease is chronic, with no cure in sight, and it will add fuel to the fire of a pandemic every time. A lot of countries did well, especially ones in Asia or the Asia Pacific, Thailand, New Zealand, Taiwan, etc.LOL tell me when was the last time the stupid rednecks and their associated behaviors in US started a global pandemic, or even an epidemic? Never! Now let's try to discuss intelligently and unbiased.

BigBuddy69
12-29-20, 19:24
Some words are missing, maybe I need my Chongmal translator.

ShooBree
12-29-20, 19:27
What did you learn this? News Max? The Rush Limbaugh Show? What is SERS? The only reference I can find for that involves a viral detection method. Enlighten me please, and make the connection to China. MERS was first discovered in Saudi Arabia and most cases have come from that region.

https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-may-2020-mers-saudi-arabia/en/

No one knows where H1 N1 or the Spanish Flu originated, but most theorize Western Europe or the US. The 2009 Swine Flu was first identified in Mexico.

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

In any case there's been a lot of epidemics, plagues, and pandemics throughout the ages and most aren't traced to China.

https://www.healthline.com/health/worst-disease-outbreaks-history#smallpox.

https://www.livescience.com/worst-epidemics-and-pandemics-in-history.html

Once the cat got out of the bag the biggest problem in the US was stupid rednecks and their associated behaviors. Sadly that disease is chronic, with no cure in sight, and it will add fuel to the fire of a pandemic every time. A lot of countries did well, especially ones in Asia or the Asia Pacific, Thailand, New Zealand, Taiwan, etc.It's embarrassing to see how incorrect you are. CNN and liberal media brainwashed you into the abomination you're today. The Spanish flu originated from China. You're embarrassing yourself, you don't even know what SARS is!

The biggest problem in USA would be the libtards, just look at the states where most died people because of Covid-19. New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts. All of them are full of good for nothing libtards. Just answer me if there's any ethnicity that's worse affected than the others in USA?

Morons like you give Americans a bad name.

Mursenary
12-29-20, 20:18
LOL tell me when was the last time the stupid rednecks and their associated behaviors in US started a global pandemic, or even an epidemic? Never! Now let's try to discuss intelligently and unbiased.Intelligent and unbiased requires one to be truthful. Not owning one's bigotry and while denying one's own postings excludes you from this type of conversation.

Mursenary
12-29-20, 20:22
Frustrated jealous have only this, or showing to girls what we write here, as did some here, one even sending by email to LR, when normal process, reason to go in brothels, for me, is to get girls we want and to get what we want from our girls, each one own level and standard for this of course. I remember one here writing she was always full busy, I don t understand, she came to me to start her day every Friday and asked for second room later at night, she could change her appointments with bigger money for me and I loved her behavior for me, when many were waiting for her, so she could choose to go with others, but she never told me she preferred to go with claiming in restaurant, when she thanked me for my behavior to give her time to eat. Must be a reason for real facts happening, and I remember on January 2018 at LR and GT. Now I wish her to be free, to get her money for her, after fucking with everybody as she turned, and to have a woman life, and wish a good health and success for business to good surprise.Loosen up and laugh a little Pepe LePew.

Mursenary
12-29-20, 20:30
Number 1: US 320000 but can't really know with so many illegals and with no healthcare, more than 60 millions people.

Number 2: Brazil, and Russia where we start now to get the truth, with nearly 200.000. Won't be enough vaccines and maybe Russia aim to sell Sputnik.

Can't know the truth for China.

UK more than 70.000.

Italy nearly 70.000.

France not far from 65.000 and Spain more than 60.000.

Too many deaths, wish for 2021 vaccines will be efficient to protect weak and medical, but vaccines don t prevent to catch and give, so not enough to stop spreading, when pharma won t produce enough for all those who want and if efficient, but nobody know for how long? Bad killer virus.The cognitive dissonance is quite remarkable. Impressive, bravo.

Lack of scientific knowledge and reporting of news packaged to the lowest common denominator is quite sad for a man who's lived over half a century on this earth.

ShooBree
12-29-20, 21:31
Right out of the Trump playbook. Never admit wrong and just skip to the next calamity while ignoring all facts that are evident to all others. It really has become a neck and neck race to the bottom between you and Shoo.

Just say it out loud and get it off your chest, "I am a white supremacist bigot."Why am I not surprised to learn that you hate White people. You should spend less time on here and more in the psychiatrist's office.

You're a true demagogue.

Gino02
12-29-20, 22:47
You're not my dad.At JimmyBoy99, he agrees that his posts are stupid, but he won't stop because you are not his dad. Maybe he's still looking for a dad to give him some paternal advices, teaching and intelligence. Let's wish good luck to him.

Mursenary
12-29-20, 23:50
It seems to bring back memories for some people. I personally don't remember the night described but I was most likely there in the kitchen. The night that brings back memories was when a client almost struck disaster with a lit cigarette. Brings new meaning to fire in bed on a forum when actual burning objects are involved. I guess it was some attempted foreplay gone wrong or perhaps he was a jilted lover like the guy who set off stink bombs in Frankfurt. Heck, it could have possible been the same one.I know of one young American who was kicked out of a club for taking a video of a girl. The only other person I know who was ejected from a club was a regular who was kicked out of both GT and LR at different points due to multiple issues with multiple girls. Creeper status.

Gino02
12-30-20, 01:10
Right out of the Trump playbook. Never admit wrong and just skip to the next calamity while ignoring all facts that are evident to all others. It really has become a neck and neck race to the bottom between you and Shoo.

Just say it out loud and get it off your chest, "I am a white supremacist bigot."No reaction to Japan banning everyone else huh? Just change the topic?

Gino02
12-30-20, 07:11
Trump wins title of Americans' most admired man in 2020 annual survey (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/29/trump-gallup-most-admired-452126).

See? Didn't I tell you before that most people actually love him (except for criminals and stupid people). Now let's get rid of the frauds in the last Election.

BigBuddy69
12-30-20, 08:11
I know of one young American who was kicked out of a club for taking a video of a girl. The only other person I know who was ejected from a club was a regular who was kicked out of both GT and LR at different points due to multiple issues with multiple girls. Creeper status.Was it the pillar lover?

BigBuddy69
12-30-20, 08:15
About the origin of the Spanish flu, my dear Swedish friend who lives under a bridge may have it wrong (who said as usual?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htm

Sirioja
12-30-20, 11:44
The cognitive dissonance is quite remarkable. Impressive, bravo.

Lack of scientific knowledge and reporting of news packaged to the lowest common denominator is quite sad for a man who's lived over half a century on this earth.In France, vaccine nobody know about efficiency and for how long, are for old and medical, after will be for at risk for health, but what we are sure in France is not old or weak or medical spreading virus, but young who just don t care as long they are not in hospital, so vaccine won t stop spreading, just protect weakest and wish for less deaths. When I remember on March, your ridiculous Trump telling to find disinfection to clean inside body, like washing inside body, the image of US and so many voted for to re elected, when what about for more than 10 millions illegals and 50 millions without insurance, for vaccine? Will they get vaccine for free? Not to spread among poor who were the most numerous dying, with fridge trucks in streets and Hart island for rich NYC. Are these facts about crazy orange golfer who was nearly to be re elected or what happened when he claimed on March: US were stronger than virus, but number 1 for deaths in the world, with big unemployment and poverty now, information's we get from journalists working and living in US, not true? At least in France, we know we have big problem about virus and even vaccine starting, worst towns will be locked at 6 pm, to try to prevent spreading, when it worked on each lock down and same everywhere in Western Europe, even Germany, and starting again when no more lock down, when vaccine people can still catch and transmit, for R0 . Just wish they will really be protected.

There are facts and there are bullshits, Trump being a specialist, same like in land of jealousy brothels. I only trust real facts I see or experience in brothels, like with GT superstar Kate for 5 years starting in Velbert, or weekly for months with the prettiest woman types at LR, when previous Eve was the busy superstar many were waiting for, but never had to wait for her when she came weekly to me, like Lucifer. De at GT. Maybe matter of size to feel.

Mursenary
12-30-20, 14:10
No reaction to Japan banning everyone else huh? Just change the topic?My reaction is that autonomous nations have the right to exclude all foreigners if they choose. Their decision is not based on racial bias and bigotry but a desire to be isolationists, something not new to their history. The issue is when you vehemently propose the exclusion of an entire race of people yet try to deny that you did so only to explicitly promote the same message once again. Furthermore you selectively chose to extrapolate the categorization of the people of a single east Asian nation to an entire half of a continent. Meanwhile selectively choose to not extrapolate that same logic to a predominantly Caucasian nation to a predominantly Caucasian continent.

Speaking of changing the subject, how about a retort to the paper trail of evidence I posted that exposed your explicit lie of proposing a ban to only the Chinese?

These are points that would be obvious to the common 10th grade reader reading your posts, yet here you are, either through shear delusion or deception, choose to make wildly inconsistent statements that are not aligned with your own comments or common sense at large.

Like I said, just a half a step above ShooBree but it's a neck and neck race to the bottom.

Mursenary
12-30-20, 14:18
Why am I not surprised to learn that you hate White people. You should spend less time on here and more in the psychiatrist's office.

You're a true demagogue.I love white people. That's my natural in-group. But most white people in the world don't spew as many detrimental ideas and straight out lies as a select few posters on this forum. I once thought that perhaps the posts were just trash by people who actually knew better, just wanting to get a reaction, but I'm grateful to silent non-posters who have inboxed to say, "No, they really are that fucking dumb."

Mursenary
12-30-20, 14:19
At JimmyBoy99, he agrees that his posts are stupid, but he won't stop because you are not his dad. Maybe he's still looking for a dad to give him some paternal advices, teaching and intelligence. Let's wish good luck to him.He wasn't talking about my conversations with you. Silly rabbit, dicks are for chicks.

Mursenary
12-30-20, 15:29
In France, vaccine nobody know about efficiency and for how long, are for old and medical, after will be for at risk for health, but what we are sure in France is not old or weak or medical spreading virus, but young who just don t care as long they are not in hospital, so vaccine won t stop spreading, just protect weakest and wish for less deaths. When I remember on March, your ridiculous Trump telling to find disinfection to clean inside body, like washing inside body, the image of US and so many voted for to re elected, when what about for more than 10 millions illegals and 50 millions without insurance, for vaccine? Will they get vaccine for free? Not to spread among poor who were the most numerous dying, with fridge trucks in streets and Hart island for rich NYC. Are these facts about crazy orange golfer who was nearly to be re elected or what happened when he claimed on March: US were stronger than virus, but number 1 for deaths in the world, with big unemployment and poverty now, information's we get from journalists working and living in US, not true? At least in France, we know we have big problem about virus and even vaccine starting, worst towns will be locked at 6 pm, to try to prevent spreading, when it worked on each lock down and same everywhere in Western Europe, even Germany, and starting again when no more lock down, when vaccine people can still catch and transmit, for R0 . Just wish they will really be protected.

There are facts and there are bullshits, Trump being a specialist, same like in land of jealousy brothels. I only trust real facts I see or experience in brothels, like with GT superstar Kate for 5 years starting in Velbert, or weekly for months with the prettiest woman types at LR, when previous Eve was the busy superstar many were waiting for, but never had to wait for her when she came weekly to me, like Lucifer. De at GT. Maybe matter of size to feel.Trump is dumb.

For the third time, vaccination will slow spread by reducing infectious time and thus reduces transmission rate (R 0).

Prostitutes like money more than old dick and grey pubic hair.

No one here cares about the size of your dick.

The end.

Mursenary
12-30-20, 16:12
Was it the pillar lover?The Roman-Statue Midget indeed.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 16:14
About the origin of the Spanish flu, my dear Swedish friend who lives under a bridge may have it wrong (who said as usual?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htmYou're wrong as usual. Everyone knows that the Spanish flu came from China. Don't you get tired of being a pathetic troll?

https://www.google.se/amp/s/api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/news/2014/1/140123-spanish-flu-1918-china-origins-pandemic-science-health

Gino02
12-30-20, 16:33
My reaction is that autonomous nations have the right to exclude all foreigners if they choose. Their decision is not based on racial bias and bigotry but a desire to be isolationists, something not new to their history. The issue is when you vehemently propose the exclusion of an entire race of people yet try to deny that you did so only to explicitly promote the same message once again. Furthermore you selectively chose to extrapolate the categorization of the people of a single east Asian nation to an entire half of a continent. Meanwhile selectively choose to not extrapolate that same logic to a predominantly Caucasian nation to a predominantly Caucasian continent.

Speaking of changing the subject, how about a retort to the paper trail of evidence I posted that exposed your explicit lie of proposing a ban to only the Chinese?

These are points that would be obvious to the common 10th grade reader reading your posts, yet here you are, either through shear delusion or deception, choose to make wildly inconsistent statements that are not aligned with your own comments or common sense at large.

Like I said, just a half a step above ShooBree but it's a neck and neck race to the bottom.Didn't I write that the Asian, particularly the Chinese ban for a decade is needed because they keep producing new deadly pathogen every few years? Didn't I write that ban could be relaxed when they prove their credibility by not producing another deadly pathogen for a decade? It's result oriented action, nothing to do with racism. You are probably an Asian, so you feel it's racism, but start to think about others when your people keep creating deadly epidemics every few years. Look inside and fix your own home first, before calling your neighbors racist.

If western world doesn't ban these Asian countries, particularly China for at least a decade, the western world is to blame themselves for their greed and stupidity when their own people gets killed and everything gets shutdown by these pandemics.

Gino02
12-30-20, 16:44
I love white people. That's my natural in-group. But most white people in the world don't spew as many detrimental ideas and straight out lies as a select few posters on this forum. I once thought that perhaps the posts were just trash by people who actually knew better, just wanting to get a reaction, but I'm grateful to silent non-posters who have inboxed to say, "No, they really are that fucking dumb."LOL you love stupid white people like Joe Biden who thinks his wife is his sister, or corrupt white people like Joe Biden who keeps covering crimes by his son with the help of the swamp. You hate smart white people like Trump because they know how to do things right, and they quickly understand how stupid and bad of a human being you are.

The Cane
12-30-20, 17:06
You're wrong as usual. Everyone knows that the Spanish flu came from China. Don't you get tired of being a pathetic troll?

https://www.google.se/amp/s/api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/news/2014/1/140123-spanish-flu-1918-china-origins-pandemic-science-healthMaybe you should try actually reading the sources you quote as backing up your claims. Because if you did, then you would have seen this: "Humphries concedes that a final answer to the mystery of the Spanish flu's origins is still a ways off".

BigBuddy69
12-30-20, 18:20
ShoeTroll I think you don't understand what you quote


one of the side stories of the war—the mobilization of 96,000 Chinese laborers to work behind the British and French lines on World War I's Western Front—may have been the source of the pandemic'may have been', that's pretty clear to me no? But at least for the first time you used a rather reliable source, not a random argument coming from your fantasy world, congrats!

BigBuddy69
12-30-20, 18:24
The Roman-Statue Midget indeed.I thought it was some sort of halfling, like the ones you find in the works of sir Tolkien. He even created his own language coming straight for middle earth.

BigBuddy69
12-30-20, 19:19
Maybe you should try actually reading the sources you quote as backing up your claims. Because if you did, then you would have seen this: "Humphries concedes that a final answer to the mystery of the Spanish flu's origins is still a ways off".Thumbs up my friend.

I didn't see that one.

Beijing4987
12-30-20, 21:15
LOL you love stupid white people like Joe Biden who thinks his wife is his sister, or corrupt white people like Joe Biden who keeps covering crimes by his son with the help of the swamp. You hate smart white people like Trump because they know how to do things right, and they quickly understand how stupid and bad of a human being you are.Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.

All of the horses and all of the king's men couldn't put Humpty together again.

Humpty. An egg, is a symbol of fertility. But also fragility.

A symbol of the earth, which is not round, but slightly egg-shaped.

Stay tuned: on January 6, Congress counts the electoral and declares the winner, or if you insist, not the loser, but the one who dint win.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 22:11
ShoeTroll I think you don't understand what you quote

'may have been', that's pretty clear to me no? But at least for the first time you used a rather reliable source, not a random argument coming from your fantasy world, congrats!I don't think that you understand what "may have been" means.

The flu came from China according to most experts.

You can't even tell the difference between millions and billions. Go back to school.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 22:12
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.

All of the horses and all of the king's men couldn't put Humpty together again.

Humpty. An egg, is a symbol of fertility. But also fragility.

A symbol of the earth, which is not round, but slightly egg-shaped.

Stay tuned: on January 6, Congress counts the electoral and declares the winner, or if you insist, not the loser, but the one who dint win.The CCP clearly didn't like Trump, that's probably why they campaigned for Biden.

China and Iran are celebrating Biden's victory. Dumb Americans.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 22:14
Maybe you should try actually reading the sources you quote as backing up your claims. Because if you did, then you would have seen this: "Humphries concedes that a final answer to the mystery of the Spanish flu's origins is still a ways off".So in other words you claim that Bidtroll was incorrect when he claimed that the flu came from USA? Good to know that you don't agree with him.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 22:18
I love white people. That's my natural in-group. But most white people in the world don't spew as many detrimental ideas and straight out lies as a select few posters on this forum. I once thought that perhaps the posts were just trash by people who actually knew better, just wanting to get a reaction, but I'm grateful to silent non-posters who have inboxed to say, "No, they really are that fucking dumb."Funny thing is that I keep getting messages from other members thanking me for correcting your lies. You should spend more time with your psychiatrist and less time spewing your moronic lies on here.

Mursenary
12-30-20, 22:19
Didn't I write that the Asian, particularly the Chinese ban for a decade is needed because they keep producing new deadly pathogen every few years? Didn't I write that ban could be relaxed when they prove their credibility by not producing another deadly pathogen for a decade? It's result oriented action, nothing to do with racism. You are probably an Asian, so you feel it's racism, but start to think about others when your people keep creating deadly epidemics every few years. Look inside and fix your own home first, before calling your neighbors racist.

If western world doesn't ban these Asian countries, particularly China for at least a decade, the western world is to blame themselves for their greed and stupidity when their own people gets killed and everything gets shutdown by these pandemics.Listen to yourself. You keep confounding your own words.

"Ban these Asian countries". Why does a dude from Singapore get lumped up with the Chinese? Why do the Koreans get lumped up with the Chinese? Why do the Japanese? Now why are you not lumping the Dutch with British? Why not lump the Germans with the British? The Italians? Huh? Answer that.

At least skin heads are open about their racism. You're the worst kind of racist. The one that'll stab you in the back with a smile.

BigBuddy69
12-31-20, 00:03
The flu came from China according to most experts..All those little voices in your head don't qualify as experts.

Do you realize that you've been constantly embarrassing yourself on this forum with all your rants about herd immunity in Sweden, your botched comparison with Ireland when Ireland has less deaths, your homoerotic passion for trump and so on?

Now you're quoting an article that doesn't support your claims. Just because you didn't read past the title. Too many words maybe?

BigBuddy69
12-31-20, 00:35
Funny thing is that I keep getting messages from other members thanking me for correcting your lies.They're coming from the other accounts that you created.

Mursenary
12-31-20, 01:33
Funny thing is that I keep getting messages from other members thanking me for correcting your lies. You should spend more time with your psychiatrist and less time spewing your moronic lies on here.Well that's obviously a lie.

Gino02
12-31-20, 02:25
Listen to yourself. You keep confounding your own words.

"Ban these Asian countries". Why does a dude from Singapore get lumped up with the Chinese? Why do the Koreans get lumped up with the Chinese? Why do the Japanese? Now why are you not lumping the Dutch with British? Why not lump the Germans with the British? The Italians? Huh? Answer that.

At least skin heads are open about their racism. You're the worst kind of racist. The one that'll stab you in the back with a smile.Are you an Asian?

Mursenary
12-31-20, 05:57
Are you an Asian?I'm American. And yes ethnicity is East Asian. Chinese? No. How about you?

I'll ask again. Why ban all Asians for sins you attribute to China but not all Europeans for strains found in the UK. Why are you choosing to lump East Asians together but not people from predominantly Caucasian countries?

Sirioja
12-31-20, 09:18
Still incredible KKK power in Oregon for racism and Trump who didn't make US great but ridiculous with covid on 2020 in front of the world, and also for image for racism versus black, with murders.

Sirioja
12-31-20, 11:18
Trump is dumb.

For the third time, vaccination will slow spread by reducing infectious time and thus reduces transmission rate (R 0).

Prostitutes like money more than old dick and grey pubic hair.

No one here cares about the size of your dick.

The end.In brothels, I like to take long, sometimes for 20 minutes, very hot water showers, not because I think girls are dirty, when I don't go with girls I find dirty or with dirty behavior, but to relax, also good for my body pains, and funny to see under shower, then you understand a lot under shower, when I m proud of my fit, firm body for my age, of my size of course, when my real sports make I don't need to take Viagra at my age, so I m not even up under shower, but those who are still up are usually not impressive for size. From your childhood with your mother which give you your own image and for women, and from your size, I remember when I played football, US soccer, when we took shower when we were around 15 with our body and mind changing and complex for many, when I was one of the less tall, but many faced the wall under shower, when we were all looking at each other and I didn't need to hide, so when I was not even the best player, nor the fastest runner, only the best stamina working for balance of our team, but boys made me captain for 2 years, decision coming from behavior under shower, from choice with their eyes. When I asked few who were my friends why they chose me, of course some were afraid to be, but they said: because You have the biggest. This give You self confidence and self image for women, when You put off your towel or robe. I remember LR previous with her 1,73 when we arrived for our first room, when she worked at LR since 3 weeks, then she sit on the edge of bed, telling me: I can t with You, my pussy is too small, I thought she wanted we left the room, I told her: we can try and if painful for You, then we stop. No other attractive girl for me at LR on this day and we didn't stop but repeated on day, even I didn't think about when leaving the room when she was so low level when since 3 weeks at LR. Of course I always had to be careful with her, for all our weekly rooms for months, but she always came to me to start her Friday or Saturday when I visited, to be wide opened, but with my care and respect and she followed me a lot, must be a reason to always make others waiting, or even to delay her appointments with bigger money. I also had to be careful with GT busy superstar Kate and she knew about my care with her. Also funny when girls touch my belly or ass or legs, when I kick in my belly, then they usually say with round eyes: please, stop this. Having clubs busiest stars for regulars, just for real facts, when frustrated jealous have only bullshits for pleasure. Each one own game, from our self image and potential with women, when I m proud of my image and no girl never took me to desk nor send me any staff to complain. I complained for first time about a girl on reopening at Samya after covid, because after really bad room, I could accept it was my fault for this, my mistake for choice, but she tried to fuck me for time when I stopped sex, then Turkish staff came, they spoke to her, they gave me a free entry, I paid the real time written on list on desk, and didn't see her on next week, even I only said I only wanted to pay for real time, as written on desk. I hated to have to complain, just killed my mood, like I hated to have to complain about vulgar, unrespectful Jane at LR when we never had any room, as I wrote I never noticed her and she could be angry, but not on my standard and at least I had balls to go to complain about her behavior in lounge, when some just don t dare, when she is a shame compare to many nice Romanian girls I met at LR, like so tender sweet Daria. I have both balls and size, for my self image, when I just don t like when girls want to touch my hair or face or dick in lounge, when I don t touch, even my regulars in lounge.

ShooBree
12-31-20, 12:12
Well that's obviously a lie.Thank you for saying that since it only shows how out of touch with reality you are. You're so arrogant and full of yourself that you can't even imagine that there are even more people disagreeing with your blatant lies and demagoguery.

You really should see a psychiatrist ASAP.

ShooBree
12-31-20, 12:14
They're coming from the other accounts that you created.That sounds more like something you, big troll, would do. "Mursenary" is known for creating new accounts for himself.

ShooBree
12-31-20, 12:32
All those little voices in your head don't qualify as experts.

Do you realize that you've been constantly embarrassing yourself on this forum with all your rants about herd immunity in Sweden, your botched comparison with Ireland when Ireland has less deaths, your homoerotic passion for trump and so on?

Now you're quoting an article that doesn't support your claims. Just because you didn't read past the title. Too many words maybe?Funny that you are using "homoerotic" as an insult, especially considering that we're on a forum about having sex with women. Can it get any dumber than that? Well, you obviously can.

It's funny how ignorant you are. If you actually did some research you would have known that there are several experts claiming that the virus came from China. But you're just a worthless piece of shit that doesn't know anything.

Talking about embarrassments, you can't even tell the difference between millions and billions, you think closing the museums constitutes a lockdown (LMFAO!) and you got it completely wrong several times how much more money Sweden contributes with per capita to the EU compared to lousy France.

You're just a silly clown from a shithole country.

What we see today is that Bolsonaro and I got it right, the lockdowns didn't eradicate the virus and countries with lockdowns are worse off than Sweden.

Turgid
12-31-20, 14:22
...No one here cares about the size of your dick. The end.Says the guy with the tiny pee pee.

Mursenary
12-31-20, 15:16
Says the guy with the tiny pee pee.That's the most wit a sexagenarian can come up with?

7 decades of fatty deposits in penile vasculature reduces erection potential. So how much of your "former self" are you now? Bahahaha.

Mursenary
12-31-20, 15:21
In brothels, I like to take long, sometimes for 20 minutes, very hot water showers, not because I think girls are dirty, when I don't go with girls I find dirty or with dirty behavior, but to relax, also good for my body pains, and funny to see under shower, then you understand a lot under shower, when I m proud of my fit, firm body for my age, of my size of course, when my real sports make I don't need to take Viagra at my age, so I m not even up underPerhaps the longest diatribe of bragging about one's own ding song in the history of mankind. Your prize is a cum drizzled pizza.

Looking at other dudes junk in the shower, strange hobby.

Mursenary
12-31-20, 15:29
Thank you for saying that since it only shows how out of touch with reality you are. You're so arrogant and full of yourself that you can't even imagine that there are even more people disagreeing with your blatant lies and demagoguery.

You really should see a psychiatrist ASAP.We should all tend to our mental health. My personal mental health nurse practitioner is a great guy. Perhaps you should try it. Might help resolve some of your personal deficiencies.

Chongmal
12-31-20, 15:38
Listen to yourself. You keep confounding your own words.

"Ban these Asian countries". Why does a dude from Singapore get lumped up with the Chinese? Why do the Koreans get lumped up with the Chinese? Why do the Japanese? Now why are you not lumping the Dutch with British? Why not lump the Germans with the British? The Italians? Huh? Answer that.

At least skin heads are open about their racism. You're the worst kind of racist. The one that'll stab you in the back with a smile.It's simple optics oriented problem. My question would be, has he ever sat down and spent an afternoon in a club in conversation with an Asian? The opportunity must be there if Asians arrive in such high numbers that they are a problem. There are millions of Asians in Europe, and even in Germany. Would his 10 year ban include rounding them up and expelling them or placing them in isolated high density living quarters with only other Asians? What do we do with those that are half Asian? They should probably stay together with the Asians too. Who knows, their poor living habits may bring a new pandemic that is more dangerous because half of their genetics is more similar to those of European decent. Is 25% Asian still too dangerous? Now, let's remind people that historically Europeans traveled to Asian. It wasn't the Chinese who arrived by shipboard on the shores of Italy and said, "look at the ground flour mixed with eggs and water formed in the shape of long noodles. We should take this and mix it with brown bean sauce and call it Ja-Ja-Myun. " It wasn't Asians who brought ship loads of Europeans in to build the Wanli Changcheng because they were such good workers but then panicked when they discovered they were intelligent and could multiply.

I have heard Europeans spout that the issue with immigrants from Asia is that they don't integrate but then they turn around and say we need to isolate them. We are all on this glob of space degree, stuck in orbit around a star. Just like the air we breath, water we drink, the dust, the germs, the animals, etc. Everything including people are moving around on the planet. This includes human beings. Entropy, it's a scientific term you should look up.

As far as someone else discussing taking a 30 minute shower at a club and being proud of his member, Yay. Now, go stand next to Mini and feel good about yourself. LOL, LOL.

Everyone knows it's Apolyon and anyone who didn't accept his truths was fake and just a duplicate.

Chongmal
12-31-20, 15:43
Listen to yourself. You keep confounding your own words.

"Ban these Asian countries". Why does a dude from Singapore get lumped up with the Chinese? Why do the Koreans get lumped up with the Chinese? Why do the Japanese? Now why are you not lumping the Dutch with British? Why not lump the Germans with the British? The Italians? Huh? Answer that.

At least skin heads are open about their racism. You're the worst kind of racist. The one that'll stab you in the back with a smile.It's simple optics oriented problem. My question would be, has he ever sat down and spent an afternoon in a club in conversation with an Asian? The opportunity must be there if Asians arrive in such high numbers that they are a problem. There are millions of Asians in Europe, and even in Germany. Would his 10 year ban include rounding them up and expelling them or placing them in isolated high density living quarters with only other Asians? What do we do with those that are half Asian? They should probably stay together with the Asians too. Who knows, their poor living habits may bring a new pandemic that is more dangerous because half of their genetics is more similar to those of European decent. Is 25% Asian still too dangerous? Now, let's remind people that historically Europeans traveled to Asian. It wasn't the Chinese who arrived by shipboard on the shores of Italy and said, "look at the ground flour mixed with eggs and water formed in the shape of long noodles. We should take this and mix it with brown bean sauce and call it Ja-Ja-Myun. " It wasn't Asians who brought ship loads of Europeans in to build the Wanli Changcheng because they were such good workers but then panicked when they discovered they were intelligent and could multiply.

I have heard Europeans spout that the issue with immigrants from Asia is that they don't integrate but then they turn around and say we need to isolate them. We are all on this glob of space degree, stuck in orbit around a star. Just like the air we breath, water we drink, the dust, the germs, the animals, etc. Everything including people are moving around on the planet. This includes human beings. Entropy, it's a scientific term you should look up.

As far as someone else discussing taking a 30 minute shower at a club and being proud of his member, Yay. Now, go stand next to Mini and feel good about yourself. LOL, LOL.

Everyone knows it's Apolyon and anyone who didn't accept his truths was fake and just a duplicate.

Chongmal
12-31-20, 15:47
Some words are missing, maybe I need my Chongmal translator.I can't keep doing it. Perhaps it will help if you study the early works of Tolkien. Skip the 15 variants of Elven languages and concentrate on Dwarvish and the language of the Oarcs.

Sirioja
12-31-20, 15:58
Says the guy with the tiny pee pee.You also know? When was told by another one here. For sure, create big frustration and don't help for image with girls, even when they go for money, and easier when you are small rather than what I consider as normal, not elephant, but enough to be felt inside a belly, then have to be careful not to hurt because they would not repeat, when sometimes 3 rooms on same day, even needing a bit time to recover vagina, but repeating weekly for months, for real and best proof. I enjoy how girls look at the tool and when growing for them, with blood coming, and round eyes, some a bit scared, but I judge from how they hold my arms when I enter, opening them, really enjoyable moment when she looks at you and understand you are very careful for her, what they are not used to.

Mursenary
12-31-20, 21:39
I remember when I played football, US soccer, when we took shower when we were around 15 with our body and mind changing and complex for many, when I was one of the less tall, but many faced the wall under shower, when we were all looking at each other and I didn't need to hide, so when I was not even the best player, nor the fastest runner, only the best stamina working for balance of our team, but boys made me captain for 2 years, decision coming from behavior under shower, from choice with their eyes. When I asked few who were my friends why they chose me, of course some were afraid to be, but they said: because You have the biggest.Wait wait wait. This dude right here is painting a scenario in which after a bunch of teenage boys shower together, whilst they check out each other's dongs, then pick the captain of the futball team based on his dick size?

Um, did anyone else think that's a fucked up school this dude went to? Explains a lot though. Did the coach shower with you guys too? Did you play hide the bratwurst when showering together?


You also know? When was told by another one here. For sure, create big frustration and don'tYou and another man message each and talk about my dick? Super creepy dude, super creepy. I'm flattered but kind of sketched out by a man who checks out other dudes in the shower and text message other men about other dudes' dicks.

Mursenary
12-31-20, 21:47
I can't keep doing it. Perhaps it will help if you study the early works of Tolkien. Skip the 15 variants of Elven languages and concentrate on Dwarvish and the language of the Oarcs.Remember in the movie when Bilbo Baggins turned Smeagol face? The resemblance is uncanny.

"My precious".

https://images.app.goo.gl/schboaWRhqSGK8AF7

Chongmal
01-01-21, 01:33
We should all tend to our mental health. My personal mental health nurse practitioner is a great guy. Perhaps you should try it. Might help resolve some of your personal deficiencies.My personal mental health practitioner is temporarily out of business. She is a great listener, normally not saying much. Mmmhmmm, mmmmmhmmm, that's 25 extra.

BigBuddy69
01-01-21, 09:23
What we see today is that Bolsonaro and I got it right, the lockdowns didn't eradicate the virus and countries with lockdowns are worse off than Sweden.Especially the close ones.

Denmark, Norway, Finland, they're really doing worse!

ShooBree
01-01-21, 12:59
We should all tend to our mental health. My personal mental health nurse practitioner is a great guy. Perhaps you should try it. Might help resolve some of your personal deficiencies.Says the mental patient! LMFAO!

Many on here seem to believe that your mental problems stems from you having a tiny Asian dick, but I'm not even sure that you're Asian given all the lies and dishonest behavior that you've mad yourself known for on here. Anyways, I hope you get the help that you need so your life get some meaning.

Why am I feeding the troll?

Turgid
01-01-21, 15:00
That's the most wit a sexagenarian can come up with?

7 decades of fatty deposits in penile vasculature reduces erection potential. So how much of your "former self" are you now? Bahahaha.I was joking! Obviously I don't know you but did I touch a nerve? If so, I'm sorry.

Mursenary
01-01-21, 15:14
I was joking! Obviously I don't know you but did I touch a nerve? If so, I'm sorry.I always trust what people say when they are in the heart of the moment more than what they say when packaging it up in a more socially acceptable recreation.

But sentiment are noted.

BigBuddy69
01-01-21, 15:57
I'm flattered but kind of sketched out by a man who checks out other dudes in the shower and text message other men about other dudes' dicks.The beginning of a new romance. Soon you'll eat pizzas covered with white pearls and eat sandwiches after midnight together. Or you'll lock yourselves in the bathroom for some steamy hot shower action. Who will drop the soap?

McAdonis
01-01-21, 17:25
https://indica.medium.com/its-been-a-year-white-people-can-t-blame-china-anymore-878d9f2b4a34Is the higher number of deaths in the West indicative of a poor response? To the author, that would be a yes. However, it seems 20-40 percent of the West would disagree with the author. Throughout ten months of the pandemic, the approval rate for Trump's pandemic response among Republicans has held steady between 77-86 percent. Among Democrats 6-27 percent. Number of deaths and hospitalizations, second and third peaks, do not seem to make much difference in public opinion.

The author believes that the West continuing to blame China for their relatively "poor" response is evidence of racism. Perhaps amongst certain segments of the population in the West, it is driven by racism. Regarding the blame game, is it just far-right, populists who continue to blame China? Or is larger swaths of people in the West? Even if the latter, is it racism or are they just waging a propaganda war against a geopolitical rival? At the height of the Cold War, I do not believe the Western nations had much complimentary things to say about USSR and the USSR didn't have much complementary things to say about the West.

McAdonis
01-01-21, 18:36
I have heard Europeans spout that the issue with immigrants from Asia is that they don't integrate but then they turn around and say we need to isolate them.Back in the mid-14th century, Jews were relatively spared from the ravages of Black Death. Europeans of that period made Jews the scapegoats for this plague and massacred them. Interestingly, cultural habits, geography, demographics, and hygiene also played a role in reducing spread of this infectious disease:


There are many possible reasons why Jews were accused to be the cause for the plague. One reason was because there was a general sense of anti-Semitism in the 14th century. Jews were also isolated in the ghettos, which meant in some places that Jews were less affected. Additionally, there are many Jewish laws that promote cleanliness: a Jew must wash his or her hands before eating bread and after using the bathroom, it was customary for Jews to bathe once a week before the Sabbath, a corpse must be washed before burial, and so on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jews_during_the_Black_Death.


Dr. Martin J. Blaser, a historian who is chairman of medicine at New York Universitys medical school, offers an intriguing hypothesis for why Jews became scapegoats in the Black Death: they were largely spared, in comparison with other groups, because grain was removed from their houses for Passover, discouraging the rats that spread the disease.

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/health/01plague.html.
Now, let's remind people that historically Europeans traveled to Asian. It wasn't the Chinese who arrived by shipboard on the shores of ItalyHistorically, most diseases originated in either Europe or Asia. Domestication of animals and agricultural advances resulted in the emergence of densely populated cities and villages. This human-to-animal contact created an environment for germs to jump from animal to human, mutate, and then transmit from human-to-human. To your point about shiploads of Europeans, well I would also add that Europeans have spread their fair share of disease to the rest of the world. Were these Europeans villains? I don't know. History shows that when populations grow, urban centers become more crowded and trading ports open (facilitating interaction), diseases and plagues emerge and spread more easily.


In the later context of the European colonization of the Americas, 95% of the indigenous populations are believed to have been killed off by diseases brought by the Europeans. Many were killed by infectious diseases such as smallpox and measles. Similar circumstances were observed in Australia and South Africa. Aboriginal Australians and the Khoikhoi population were decimated by smallpox, measles, influenza and other diseases.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel

In Uganda, shortly after the arrival of European colonists, there was an explosion of epidemics of hitherto unknown diseases of smallpox, plague, gonorrhoea and syphilis. Later measles, cholera and typhoid.

https://www.newvision.co.ug/news/1239715/colonial-masters-brought-infectitious-diseases-africa

ShooBree
01-01-21, 19:22
Especially the close ones.

Denmark, Norway, Finland, they're really doing worse!Oh, I see that you're out cherry-picking again. Your speculations are nothing but speculations, looking at your posting history I would say that you're probably wrong again.

Both Brazil and Sweden have seen less Covid-19 related deaths than France despite their lockdown. You surely didn't learn anything from France's mistakes.

Mursenary
01-01-21, 19:43
Says the mental patient! LMFAO!

Many on here seem to believe that your mental problems stems from you having a tiny Asian dick, but I'm not even sure that you're Asian given all the lies and dishonest behavior that you've mad yourself known for on here. Anyways, I hope you get the help that you need so your life get some meaning.

Why am I feeding the troll?So many here are so obsessed with my dick. #Flatterred.

I supposed I am a dick. But at least I ain't no asshole:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2GwrR-4Q9E&list=FL0r7k72gkp9Oq5b-TLp0ZKg&index=453

BigBuddy69
01-01-21, 23:18
Oh, I see that you're out cherry-picking again. Your speculations are nothing but speculations, looking at your posting history I would say that you're probably wrong again.

Both Brazil and Sweden have seen less Covid-19 related deaths than France despite their lockdown. You surely didn't learn anything from France's mistakes.That's called facts ShoeTroll. Look at this nice little chart (I know you don't like when you have to read papers past the title).

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..2020-12-31&country=SWE~NOR~FIN~DNK&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=total&perCapita=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

Between Norway and Sweden that's one to ten no?

BigBuddy69
01-01-21, 23:27
So many here are so obsessed with my dick. #Flatterred.You should consider a menage a trois with WorthingVaginalBehavior and ShoeTroll.

You'll do a dick contest under the shower!

Mursenary
01-02-21, 02:34
Oh, I see that you're out cherry-picking again. Your speculations are nothing but speculations, looking at your posting history I would say that you're probably wrong again.

Both Brazil and Sweden have seen less Covid-19 related deaths than France despite their lockdown. You surely didn't learn anything from France's mistakes.Stop speaking out of your butt hole. Are these lies or just plain wrong? Hmmm.

Mursenary
01-02-21, 02:57
To your point about shiploads of Europeans, well I would also add that Europeans have spread their fair share of disease to the rest of the world. Were these Europeans villains? I don't knowWant to know who would know? North American Native Americans who received smallpox blankets. Aztecs of Mexico and Indigenous South Americans who succumbed to mumps, measles, influenza, typhus, typhoid, and probably yellow fever.

BigBad
01-02-21, 03:03
I live in the US. Been to Oase many times. I was just curious the general situation in Germany. I'm guessing there hasn't been much of any discussion about when the FKKs can open again. Maybe sometime in late 2021 if the vaccine becomes effective?

What have most of the girls in the clubs done? Have they gone back home to Romania or remained in Germany and possibly escorting to make some money while the clubs are closed?

Sirioja
01-02-21, 08:04
Perhaps the longest diatribe of bragging about one's own ding song in the history of mankind. Your prize is a cum drizzled pizza.

Looking at other dudes junk in the shower, strange hobby.In my opinion, I m about normal Caucasian size, even many girls tell: You are big and Ariana became suffering with my size before becoming crazy ready for anything with many, high risk girl, when never had any girlfriend telling me I was too big, but from what I see in brothels with so many really small and I remember our jokes with a NL GT every Saturday regular. Since football, when some tallest faced the wall, showing their ass, I m proud of fit firm not needing Viagra under shower and when I put off towel or robe in front of a girl, also not to be bald but beautiful hair girls like to touch and not fat which is not efficient for performance except sumo. Must be reason for real facts happening weekly.

ExpatLover
01-02-21, 08:54
I live in the US. Been to Oase many times. I was just curious the general situation in Germany. I'm guessing there hasn't been much of any discussion about when the FKKs can open again. Maybe sometime in late 2021 if the vaccine becomes effective?

What have most of the girls in the clubs done? Have they gone back home to Romania or remained in Germany and possibly escorting to make some money while the clubs are closed?I guess the situation is different for each girl, may be let us put in some groups, one group of girls moved to other countries like Switzerland, or Spain, or England when travelling and working was still possible, another group went back to Rumania but I don t believe it is the majority just because when the girls go home usually they spend a lot of money for the family but this time they have no money. A third group is working as escort in Germany but all the girls are not able to do escort just because it is more stressing and risky than waiting of the monger in a secure place like FKK. Also there is the problem of where to escort, in hotels it is not possible more than several days because of the hotel management in apartments also very difficult because of the neighbours who are also at home due to home office work and for most of the girls is it impossible to rent a apartment under their own name therefor I believe they rent from some BF. I met many escorts in Germany, 0 Rumanian girl only German native some real students. The registered prostitutes paying taxes are getting financial support from the government and also some are taking German lessons and learning a job all this is paid buy the job centre.

Sirioja
01-02-21, 12:23
Wait wait wait. This dude right here is painting a scenario in which after a bunch of teenage boys shower together, whilst they check out each other's dongs, then pick the captain of the futball team based on his dick size?

Um, did anyone else think that's a fucked up school this dude went to? Explains a lot though. Did the coach shower with you guys too? Did you play hide the bratwurst when showering together?

You and another man message each and talk about my dick? Super creepy dude, super creepy. I'm flattered but kind of sketched out by a man who checks out other dudes in the shower and text message other men about other dudes' dicks.But you are well known as a many profiles faker, like some others here, and also bullshiting specialists, kind of bald club with not best look, when nobody can say I'm a faker, when I don't hide, even under shower.

ShooBree
01-02-21, 15:56
Stop speaking out of your butt hole. Are these lies or just plain wrong? Hmmm.Omfg, how fucking stupid are you? I was obviously referring to per capita.

Are you autistic?

Mursenary
01-02-21, 15:59
. Since football, when some tallest faced the wall, showing their ass, I m proud of fit firm not needing Viagra under shower and when I put off towel or robe in front of a girl, also not to be bald but beautiful hair girls like to touch and not fat which is not efficient for performance except sumo. Must be reason for real facts happening weekly.So you liked that? I mean other dudes in the shower presenting their asses to you? Do you prefer the ones who shave their asses or do you prefer the unshaven, "au naturale" man ass? Strange.

ShooBree
01-02-21, 16:00
That's called facts ShoeTroll. Look at this nice little chart (I know you don't like when you have to read papers past the title).

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..2020-12-31&country=SWE~NOR~FIN~DNK&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=total&perCapita=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

Between Norway and Sweden that's one to ten no?Could you look at the difference between France and Sweden? Or is that too complicated for you?

If you had any intelligence whatsoever you would have realized how ridiculous and irrelevant your cherry-picking is.

ShooBree
01-02-21, 16:04
You should consider a menage a trois with WorthingVaginalBehavior and ShoeTroll.

You'll do a dick contest under the shower!Highly disturbing that your obsession of me turned sexual.

You're not only a pathetic troll, you're also a coward. I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the history and reputation of France.

Mursenary
01-02-21, 16:05
But you are well known as a many profiles faker, like some others here, and also bullshiting specialists, kind of bald club with not best look, when nobody can say I'm a faker, when I don't hide, even under shower.I noticed that when I teach students and they don't know the answer, they just start rambling about something off topic, never really answering the question.

Mursenary
01-02-21, 16:09
You should consider a menage a trois with WorthingVaginalBehavior and ShoeTroll.

You'll do a dick contest under the shower!Let's be honest here. Even if I could be gay, I'm out of their league.

Mursenary
01-02-21, 16:19
Omfg, how fucking stupid are you? I was obviously referring to per capita.

Are you autistic?
Both Brazil and Sweden have seen less Covid-19 related deaths than France despite their lockdown. You surely didn't learn anything from France's mistakes.Then work on your writing skills.

BigBuddy69
01-02-21, 16:49
Could you look at the difference between France and Sweden? Or is that too complicated for you?

If you had any intelligence whatsoever you would have realized how ridiculous and irrelevant your cherry-picking is.One day I'll try to teach you how to make a comparison if you want it to be relevant. I'd like also to teach you good manners but I think it's a lost cause.

Have you ever heard of something like 'all other things considered equal'? You want to judge the efficiency of a lockdown, you compare two countries with similar characteristics, one with a lockdown and one without. I don't think they teach you this in your far right wing white supremacist holiday camp, they rather have chapters on 'how to be a stupid bully' and 'how to change the subject with some insults when you realize that you are totally wrong'.

Ask them next time to teach you how to read an article past the title, like the one about the Spanish flu in which a 14 yo school boy could understand that finally, we have no idea where it came from.

I know the lancet is a little bit out of your league but try again this one:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20) 32750-1/ fulltext.

Don't stop at the title, you would understand it's a new book by Michael Connelly.

Then skip to this one:

https://theconversation.com/achieving-covid-19-herd-immunity-through-infection-is-dangerous-deadly-and-might-not-even-work-148769

It's about the herd immunity you were so proud of this summer.

That's funny but we never heard you again opening your big mouth about it since a few months.

And look, finally your government grew a pair of balls and is ready to enforce a real lockdown, not the half ass partial lockdowns that are totally inefficient.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL8N2J8194

I also read in the famous newspaper 'LE monde' (not the stupid Christian bigot website that you're quoting in the other thread) that there was now some kind of corona shame from the inhabitants from your wonderful country because you have 8 to 10 times more deaths than your neighbours. Now they don't want you to enter their country!

Kuni042
01-02-21, 18:37
Yes. Very important website: this here is my current most favourite web page: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&time=latest&region=World.

I am guessing that with the new corona-mutation which is significantly more infectious, red-light will be banned in Germany and many other places until Germany has a 60 or 65 instead of a 0. 2 (% of vaccinated persons).

And I am guessing that belgians and NL and french have to show similar numbers if they want to acquire entrance.

Check out Israel as a role model here, BTW. And I am totally missing France!?


That's called facts ShoeTroll. Look at this nice little chart (I know you don't like when you have to read papers past the title).

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..2020-12-31&country=SWE~NOR~FIN~DNK&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=total&perCapita=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

Between Norway and Sweden that's one to ten no?

ExpatLover
01-02-21, 19:09
Yes. Very important website: this here is my current most favourite web page: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&time=latest&region=World.

I am guessing that with the new corona-mutation which is significantly more infectious, red-light will be banned in Germany and many other places until Germany has a 60 or 65 instead of a 0. 2 (% of vaccinated persons).

And I am guessing that belgians and NL and french have to show similar numbers if they want to acquire entrance.

Check out Israel as a role model here, BTW. And I am totally missing France!?In your statement you assume that the vaccine is efficient, for me the vaccine will be as efficient as the flue one, we all know a lot of people getting the flue vaccine but already catching the flue. Is the vaccine efficient against the new variant, probably not more than 50%. Just advice you to have a look back to March 2020, all the statements or promises from the politicians, so on doctors. Today 360000 deaths in the US, most of the countries in quarantine, covid stronger than never. Do you still believe the vaccine is efficient?

Chongmal
01-02-21, 19:36
West continuing to blame China for their relatively "poor" response is evidence of racism. Perhaps amongst certain segments of the population in the West, it is driven by racism. Regarding the blame game, is it just far-right, populists who continue to blame China? Or is larger swaths of people in the West? Even if the latter, is it racism or are they just waging a propaganda war against a geopolitical rival? At the height of the Cold War, I do not believe the Western nations had much complimentary things to say about USSR and the USSR didn't have much complementary things to say about the West.I believe that it is laced with fear. Perhaps the person at the top is not afraid, or perhaps they are. The reality is how do you generate a mob backing. Fear is one of the most powerful tools available. This is evident through history. The bad guy is coming. The will rape, pillage and plunder. Violent crime will increase if we allow them in. They will try to overthrow our beliefs and our civilization. I remember as a child when we had afraid drills during school. Funny thing, later in life I spoke with people my age on the other side. They also recalled air raid drills for when we attacked them. Neither of us had any personal dealings with each other but we had been taught to fear each other.

BigBuddy69
01-02-21, 20:15
Unfortunately the beginning of the campaign has been delayed because as usual it's a mess.

Chongmal
01-02-21, 20:51
Highly disturbing that your obsession of me turned sexual.

You're not only a pathetic troll, you're also a coward. I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the history and reputation of France.Shoe, easy on the insults bro. This is just a sex forum, for the purpose of finding ladies for the purpose of sex. Honestly, pay sex in formal establishments won't resume in Europe until enough of the population has some immunities and death rates go down. What Sweden did was bold. It could prove to be genius or the ultimate mistake. We won't know until real herd immunity is in effect. Remember, keep the shoes on the proper feet. Left is left and right is right!

ShooBree
01-02-21, 23:17
Then work on your writing skills.The problem is your lack of intelligence. I'm not used to communicating with people suffering from Asperger's.

ShooBree
01-03-21, 00:07
One day I'll try to teach you how to make a comparison if you want it to be relevant. I'd like also to teach you good manners but I think it's a lost cause.

Have you ever heard of something like 'all other things considered equal'? You want to judge the efficiency of a lockdown, you compare two countries with similar characteristics, one with a lockdown and one without. I don't think they teach you this in your far right wing white supremacist holiday camp, they rather have chapters on 'how to be a stupid bully' and 'how to change the subject with some insults when you realize that you are totally wrong'.

Ask them next time to teach you how to read an article past the title, like the one about the Spanish flu in which a 14 yo school boy could understand that finally, we have no idea where it came from.

I know the lancet is a little bit out of your league but try again this one:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20) 32750-1/ fulltext.

Don't stop at the title, you would understand it's a new book by Michael Connelly.

Then skip to this one:

https://theconversation.com/achieving-covid-19-herd-immunity-through-infection-is-dangerous-deadly-and-might-not-even-work-148769

It's about the herd immunity you were so proud of this summer.

That's funny but we never heard you again opening your big mouth about it since a few months.

And look, finally your government grew a pair of balls and is ready to enforce a real lockdown, not the half ass partial lockdowns that are totally inefficient.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL8N2J8194

I also read in the famous newspaper 'LE monde' (not the stupid Christian bigot website that you're quoting in the other thread) that there was now some kind of corona shame from the inhabitants from your wonderful country because you have 8 to 10 times more deaths than your neighbours. Now they don't want you to enter their country!Maybe you could start with teaching yourself to not lie or being a pathetic troll? So many things you need to teach yourself before you get any ideas of "teaching" me anything. You could teach yourself to stop it with your childish ad hominem attacks.

It's funny to see your moronic guesses when we have the facts on the table, the lockdowns failed. Sweden luckily made much better decisions and managed to have even less Covid-19 related deaths / capita (have to write per capita or the autistic Mursenary will get confused) than Switzerland, the best country in Europe.

You have a lot to explain for your wild guesses to become even remotely relevant, several neighbors have seen different results with on the surface similar tactics.

Spain vs Portugal.

Iran vs Saudi.

Belgium vs Netherlands.

Just to get the facts straight, Sweden banned Danes from entering the country.

https://www.thelocal.se/20201221/sweden-blocks-travel-from-denmark-over-virus-fears

You're a typical Frenchman, an arrogant moron.

According to many experts the Spanish flu came from China, but you claim to know better. You're so incredibly arrogant and full of yourself for no good reason.

You've been wrong the entire time, you even confused billions with millions. For real? Are you a kindergartner? I'm laughing at you and your stupidity. You still haven't understood that there are more factors in play than just the number of deaths. Especially considering that it's a relatively mild virus which almost only kills the weak and old. I've no desire to quarantine for a virus that can't hurt me. Children needs to go to school and get an proper education, we don't want to end up like France. Grown ups needs to make a living and have a job to go to. It wouldn't be fair to sacrifice them for a small minority that would die sooner rather than later anyways. There are no easy decisions but you've clearly shown that you're not capable of seeing the full picture. You're still inside the box.

It's been a great year for the Swedish currency, it's still weak but thanks to the moronic leaders in other countries our currency appreciated against most currencies.

Well, we will see what's happened, but according to you Sweden has a lockdown since we closed the museums.

ShooBree
01-03-21, 00:29
Shoe, easy on the insults bro. This is just a sex forum, for the purpose of finding ladies for the purpose of sex. Honestly, pay sex in formal establishments won't resume in Europe until enough of the population has some immunities and death rates go down. What Sweden did was bold. It could prove to be genius or the ultimate mistake. We won't know until real herd immunity is in effect. Remember, keep the shoes on the proper feet. Left is left and right is right!Treat me with respect and I will treat you with respect. Treat me with disrespect and that's what you get back. I'm not Jesus, I don't turn the other cheek.

When it comes down to it all I think that the right thing was done for all the wrong reasons. The government thought it was easier to let the epidemiologist make the decisions, for them it was a way to avoid accountability. The leading epidemiologist said several incorrect things that the public laughed at. But it was also tough situation, planes full of people came from the Alps and Iran. At that time Iran and the Alps were two of the worst affected countries / regions.

I've been enjoying some Thai chicks here in Sweden, the quality isn't too bad in our AMPS, and there's a lot of them where I live.

Mursenary
01-03-21, 01:49
The problem is your lack of intelligence. I'm not used to communicating with people suffering from Asperger's.Ugh, boring, tedious, fruitless, lack of entertainment value and originality. Do you have any wit or comedic value to contribute?

Mursenary
01-03-21, 01:55
In your statement you assume that the vaccine is efficient, for me the vaccine will be as efficient as the flue one, we all know a lot of people getting the flue vaccine but already catching the flue. Is the vaccine efficient against the new variant, probably not more than 50%. Just advice you to have a look back to March 2020, all the statements or promises from the politicians, so on doctors. Today 360000 deaths in the US, most of the countries in quarantine, covid stronger than never. Do you still believe the vaccine is efficient?Only 5% of the population in the US has received the vaccine. This assertion of vaccine efficiency (sic) regarding "new" strain is against all predictions by anyone with actual credentials. I'd expect this type of baselessness from Shoe or Gino but a retiree should have the years and wisdom to know better.

Mursenary
01-03-21, 03:30
Shoe, easy on the insults bro. This is just a sex forum, for the purpose of finding ladies for the purpose of sex.LOL, that's all he's capable of, brut insults. Forget substance of the posts. Even the insults, they're never clever. No wit. No subtlety. No elegance in prose. It all suggests a person lacking both depth and breadth.

ShooBree
01-03-21, 13:52
Ugh, boring, tedious, fruitless, lack of entertainment value and originality. Do you have any wit or comedic value to contribute?I'm just being honest, you should try it sometime. You're not funny and you're certainly not honest.

You're a disgusting troll.

ShooBree
01-03-21, 14:07
LOL, that's all he's capable of, brut insults. Forget substance of the posts. Even the insults, they're never clever. No wit. No subtlety. No elegance in prose. It all suggests a person lacking both depth and breadth.You're not funny, honest nor are you intelligent. You're just a lousy hypocrite. I laugh at you because you're so incredibly stupid, I loath you because you're a liar and your ad hominem attacks only confirms how immature you are without any sense of humor whatsoever.

The worst part about you would be that you're a coward, and not your stupidity, hypocrisy, immaturity or dishonesty.

You would never dare to say a word to my face, you're such a coward.

ShooBree
01-03-21, 14:11
Only 5% of the population in the US has received the vaccine. This assertion of vaccine efficiency (sic) regarding "new" strain is against all predictions by anyone with actual credentials. I'd expect this type of baselessness from Shoe or Gino but a retiree should have the years and wisdom to know better.You really should see a professional since your obsession with me is not normal.

It's probably because you're suffering from Aspergers and don't have any life of your own.

Mursenary
01-03-21, 14:52
I'm just being honest, you should try it sometime. You're not funny and you're certainly not honest.

You're a disgusting troll.Opinion of the lowest class noted. Now move along.