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Pistons
02-08-21, 10:50
Another indication is that he has a beta dick. Only so that while the rest of us are enjoying beautiful Romanian and Bulgarian girls at FKK clubs, we will feel even greater. The brain behind this very NPC was a smart person indeed!

Sirioja
02-08-21, 10:51
MMA = Mixed Martial Arts.

It's a brutal sport but they are real apex athletes. Stamina, agility, and strength must be incorporated. Their training is more intense than most other athletes. Half of them might be dumb as bricks with brain damage but 15 minutes in the Octagon takes much more physical fitness than a half day "climbing" up a mountain or should I say walking up a mountain as climbing would entail belaying, gripping rocks with your hands, or traversing. They are real athletes in the octagon who must maintain top physical condition rather than being one dimensional endurance "athletes."I agree for brutal violent and dangerous sport, but most of them would not be able to bicycle climb my spots, when professional racers wanted to avoid Zoncolan for years, but Giro of Italia want to try to compete with tour de France, nor to climb with heart on edge of red zone for hours, meaning between 140 and 160 and more when more steep than 15%. Like in superbowl where the old was so much more efficient than the young new superstar. No rhythm but always adverts more than sport. I would like to see Tonga or Fuiji playing, they would break helmets and protections, when rugby is a real sport, not just a show. Maybe why Brady keeps on still being the best, after more than 20 years in this business more than sport, when I improved since I started nearly 20 years ago at age when professionals are usually on their top for resistance, but I perform better now than when in 30's.

Ararat
02-08-21, 19:36
Another indication is that he has a beta dick. Only so that while the rest of us are enjoying beautiful Romanian and Bulgarian girls at FKK clubs, we will feel even greater. The brain behind this very NPC was a smart person indeed!Can you translate this into English, please?

Sirioja
02-08-21, 23:29
Another indication is that he has a beta dick. Only so that while the rest of us are enjoying beautiful Romanian and Bulgarian girls at FKK clubs, we will feel even greater. The brain behind this very NPC was a smart person indeed!I could claim I have alpha size and I'm able to count my hands and feet fingers, when I didn't achieve for one of the 10 best French school, higher ranked than any French university, to play sport to show my school, but I preferred to work to improve cars with money earned while holidays except going to ski.

Pistons
02-08-21, 23:34
Can you translate this into English, please?NPC = Non Playable Character. Meaning that in our simulated reality, not all people have consciousness.

Sirioja
02-09-21, 00:01
In worst France than elsewhere but less deaths per people than in US, UK and Portugal, but now we have UK, south African and Brazilian mutants, looking forward Californian one, when I never heard any medical telling about French or German mutant, and our neighbors countries should have same than us, Germany forbidding UK to enter now and being under very strict lockdown since Christmas and not finished. I'm not so sure for less deaths on 2021 than on 2020. Sun and heat may make our organism make more vitamin the to be stronger to fight virus, but after Summer? How many mutants then? When vaccine have only short efficiency = not more than 1 year. And even I m sure Biden is much more honest than Trump, how can they really know among 11 millions illegals and more than 50 millions without healthcare insurance, so they die hidden, because they can't pay for healthcare or hospital. Even I don't worry so much for my health and won't change my way of life, even job became much more complicated since November, needing to be daily on the field, in the cold, to check safety, but I feel more safe with French healthcare.

ManicGuy
02-09-21, 00:37
Oh look, the entire world cv19 trend is down for both cases and deaths. Praise Jesus. Glory to Allah.

Mutants. Pfft. A speed bump at best. Wash your hands, wear your face masks, get the vaccine. Avoid unnecessary, unprotected close quarter contact and we'll continue this long road back to some form of normalcy! Maybe if we're lucky, there will be some form of international mongering by summer.The problem is not that the world is facing mutants or increase and decrease in cases & deaths.

The real challenge is the virus symptoms and long term effect of it on the people and overall health also the vaccines are not tested enough on variety of people so there is big number of factors we hope to understand to overcome the virus.

Simply the symptoms differ from group to group of people and too much unknown on how the virus acts on us.

Thus until collecting a good amount of data and understand the how it affects different organs and why is the immuno response different widely.

We still hope for the best and wait.

Mursenary
02-09-21, 02:42
I agree for brutal violent and dangerous sport, but most of them would not be able to bicycle climb my spots, when professional racers wanted to avoid Zoncolan for years, but Giro of Italia want to try to compete with tour de France, nor to climb with heart on edge of red zone for hours, meaning between 140 and 160 and more when more steep than 15%. Like in superbowl where the old was so much more efficient than the young new superstar. No rhythm but always adverts more than sport. I would like to see Tonga or Fuiji playing, they would break helmets and protections, when rugby is a real sport, not just a show. Maybe why Brady keeps on still being the best, after more than 20 years in this business more than sport, when I improved since I started nearly 20 years ago at age when professionals are usually on their top for resistance, but I perform better now than when in 30's.And professional racers, rugby players, and football players would literally get killed in the ring / octagon against a trained MMA fighter. But walking up a hill is not climbing a mountain unless you free climb with your hands or belay with a partner. Walking up a hill is not a sport. Keeping fit as you age with cardiovascular exercise is a nice hobby to extend life. Bragging about it as if one is an athlete is a joke.

Mursenary
02-09-21, 02:50
Well according to your second graph the trend is not very robust and the number of daily deaths is still very high.The point is to look where things are going, not where they are. Just like investing in stocks, the losers are the ones who jump on a trend based on what has already happened. The biggest winners look at the trajectory, incorporate variables, and then make big moves.

Mursenary
02-09-21, 03:11
This is roughly what I've been saying for half a year now: mutations will render the "vaccine" mostly ineffective, and we will be in a never ending series of lockdowns, and "vaccines."

Now the 'usual suspects' like for example Mursenary and McAdonis can post long off-topic stories or come up with all sorts of accusations of "conspiracy theories" in order to push my post to the bottom and out of sight.Still waiting for those sources for autoimmune disease and DNA altering effects from the vaccine homie.

BTW, welcome to the rants and WTF are you talking about and coronavirus thread.

Mursenary
02-09-21, 03:22
In worst France than elsewhere but less deaths per people than in US, UK and Portugal, but now we have UK, south African and Brazilian mutants, looking forward Californian one, when I never heard any medical telling about French or German mutant, and our neighbors countries should have same than us, Germany forbidding UK to enter now and being under very strict lockdown since Christmas and not finished. I'm not so sure for less deaths on 2021 than on 2020. Sun and heat may make our organism make more vitamin the to be stronger to fight virus, but after Summer? How many mutants then? When vaccine have only short efficiency = not more than 1 year. And even I m sureQuestion, can you define what determines when a mutation becomes called a "mutant"? Can you tell me what actually differentiates one "mutant" from another?

BigBuddy69
02-09-21, 06:57
NPC = Non Playable Character. Meaning that in our simulated reality, not all people have consciousness.Do you realize that the things generated by your PlayStation are not real?

HammerTime96
02-09-21, 10:25
Sun and heat may make our organism make more vitamin the to be stronger to fight virus, but after Summer? How many mutants then? When vaccine have only short efficiency = not more than 1 year. The lockdowns have actually kept this virus alive for much longer than normal, allowing multiple mutations, but at the same time they have completely destroyed the economy that is needed to support a healthcare system. Merkel and Macron have done the opposite of what is logical.

This is why the WHO recommends lockdowns only as an absolute LAST resort, and only for a very limited time like a few weeks in order "to buy time" and to release pressure off the hospital system. In Europe, most strict lockdowns started at the end of October and are still ongoing. Most people don't expect any easing of these lockdowns until Easter, which this year is on April 4th.

That means: 5 months (nearly half a year) of almost pure lockdowns with closed restaurants, closed gyms, closed shops, yet "cases" have continued to increase which means that the virus is still spreading and continues to mutate. This also means that lockdowns have an extremely limited use.

Directly from the WHO website: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19.


"However, these measures can have a profound negative impact on individuals, communities, and societies by bringing social and economic life to a near stop. Such measures disproportionately affect disadvantaged groups, including people in poverty, migrants, internally displaced people and refugees, who most often live in overcrowded and under resourced settings, and depend on daily labour for subsistence.

WHO recognizes that at certain points, some countries have had no choice but to issue stay-at-home orders and other measures, to buy time.

BigBuddy69
02-09-21, 12:24
The consequences of bullying on feeble minds are terrible.

BigBuddy69
02-09-21, 15:46
Question, can you define what determines when a mutation becomes called a "mutant"? Can you tell me what actually differentiates one "mutant" from another?Easy. Just watch all the X-men movies. Or ask professor Xavier.

BigBuddy69
02-09-21, 15:50
Keeping fit as you age with cardiovascular exercise is a nice hobby to extend life. Bragging about it as if one is an athlete is a joke.Except that in order to improve your condition or to keep fit, you have to train regularly. And 2 or 3 weeks in a year is not what I call 'regularly'. Especially for endurance sports.

BigBuddy69
02-09-21, 16:46
Being a creepy stalker is being special and different!

Sirioja
02-09-21, 16:49
Question, can you define what determines when a mutation becomes called a "mutant"? Can you tell me what actually differentiates one "mutant" from another?All medicals, even in US, except you, tell about mutants, at least 4 known at the moment and EU countries closed borders, even inside EU because of mutants spreading, when I have nothing to do with this EU decision to try to protect us, when I would really prefer to go to ski, or to FKK land, than closed borders and no ski at the moment in France nor Germany nor Italy. Don't you have a Californian mutant? With California which was down under very few weeks ago. UK was in panic and London out of control on beginning of this new year, under their mutant.

TonyMontanaaO7
02-09-21, 16:57
Being bullied makes young people incredibly insecure: When you're being bullied, you can feel constantly insecure and on guard. Even if you're not actively being bullied, you're aware it could start anytime. It has a big mental and emotional impact—you feel unaccepted, isolated, angry, and withdrawn. You're always wondering how you can do better and how you can escape a bully's notice. You're also stunted because of the constant tension and because maybe you forego making certain friendships or miss out on taking certain chances that could actually help your development.

Paulie97
02-09-21, 17:18
Now the 'usual suspects' like for example Mursenary and McAdonis can post long off-topic stories or come up with all sorts of accusations of "conspiracy theories" in order to push my post to the bottom and out of sight.Paranoia is obviously in your DNA, thus the penchant for conspiracy theories.

Paulie97
02-09-21, 17:23
Still waiting for those sources for autoimmune disease and DNA altering effects from the vaccine homie.As Jed Clampett used to say, "take off your shoes, set a spell" because you are going to be waiting a very long time. Wink.

HammerTime96
02-09-21, 18:06
You are not special to the girls. You are in no position to judge them. You really should think about what you post.

I wouldn't know who you are if a girl hadn't pointed you out and called you a stalker. Always standing by the stairs at Sharks watching everybody all day.Amen! I've heard very similar feedback from girls.

ExpatLover
02-09-21, 18:31
You are not special to the girls. You are in no position to judge them. You really should think about what you post.

I wouldn't know who you are if a girl hadn't pointed you out and called you a stalker. Always standing by the stairs at Sharks watching everybody all day.I think most of us know who he is, he is speaking too much to the girls, never trust a prostitute, and in a FKK every thig is lie and bullshit. Personally I stated mongering after 48 and a hard divorce, spent 15 years fucking prostitutes and sorry it was enough for me, fortunately I was able to understand that there is no future for me by doing this.

ExpatLover
02-09-21, 18:37
Amen! I've heard very similar feedback from girls.Unfortunately for him, we all heard the same thing, sad to see that some guys still believe that the girls are looking for orgasm, good sex, big cock. They are just looking for money. I always recommend to the guys who are thinking differently to go 1 day to her favorite in a FKK and telling today you have no money, I can already guess the answer of the girl.

BigBuddy69
02-09-21, 18:44
I wonder if 1990's women also found a 163 cm, 65 kg male stature to be irresistible.Maybe not in the 90's, but I'm sure that in the 2000's some girls had a crush on Elijah Wood when he saved our asses by entering the Mordor.

Well maybe a tiny part of them are fantasizing about an ageing creepy version of Elijah.

Pistons
02-09-21, 20:23
Do you realize that the things generated by your PlayStation are not real?Define reality.

Everything we observe are made up of waves, and given we have enough computer power, we can generate waves the exact same way. Especially inside a simulated reality.

Sirioja
02-09-21, 20:31
All medicals, even in US, except you, tell about mutants, at least 4 known at the moment and EU countries closed borders, even inside EU because of mutants spreading, when I have nothing to do with this EU decision to try to protect us, when I would really prefer to go to ski, or to FKK land, than closed borders and no ski at the moment in France nor Germany nor Italy. Don't you have a Californian mutant? With California which was down under very few weeks ago. UK was in panic and London out of control on beginning of this new year, under their mutant.To add, UK sport teams which are tested very often, are now forbidden in Germany and also in Spain, so I think should be same for UK citizens, and I'm sure I have no power about these decisions and also to close borders, even inside EU. EU decisions and they may have good reasons for this when it really not help our economy, when new Aztra Zeneca don't seem efficient versus south African, from a UK discovery, not me, I promise.

Pistons
02-09-21, 20:47
Maybe not in the 90's, but I'm sure that in the 2000's some girls had a crush on Elijah Wood when he saved our asses by entering the Mordor.

Well maybe a tiny part of them are fantasizing about an ageing creepy version of Elijah.I heard he recently starred in a horror movie named Come to Daddy.

Tuber19
02-09-21, 20:52
The lockdowns have actually kept this virus alive for much longer than normal,
completely destroyed the economy . Merkel and Macron have done the opposite of what is logical.

In Europe, most strict lockdowns started at the end of October until Easter, which this year is on April 4th.

That means: 5 months (nearly half a year) of almost pure lockdowns with closed restaurants, closed gyms, closed shops, yet "cases" have continued to increase which means that the virus is still spreading and continues to mutate. This also means that lockdowns have an extremely limited use.
.And they use fear to justify this and make people obey.

Sirioja
02-09-21, 21:09
And they use fear to justify this and make people obey.I don't agree and even I really miss to go to ski, but I agree Macron and Merkel when they try to save life, when too many deaths as a real fact. France don't have such strict lockdown than our neighbors and we are not worst at the moment, with no panic in hospitals, but we have now 3 mutants and Aztra Zeneca don't seem efficient versus south African. Lockdowns saved life, when we see about UK panic, when not putting on masks.

BigBuddy69
02-09-21, 21:59
I heard he recently starred in a horror movie named Come to Daddy.I just saw him in Maniac, the remake of an old horror movie.

He's stalking the girls, killing them and taking their scalp to play with mannequins he has in his house. The stalking part reminds me of someone, close to his size.

Turgid
02-09-21, 22:31
Except that in order to improve your condition or to keep fit, you have to train regularly. And 2 or 3 weeks in a year is not what I call 'regularly'. Especially for endurance sports.The best way to improve your condition is with sex. I do different positions for enjoyment, the bonus is that I get to work out all my muscles. Pleasure and keeping fit in one go. Life is good.

Gino02
02-09-21, 23:04
The lockdowns have actually kept this virus alive for much longer than normal, allowing multiple mutations, but at the same time they have completely destroyed the economy that is needed to support a healthcare system. Merkel and Macron have done the opposite of what is logical.

This is why the WHO recommends lockdowns only as an absolute LAST resort, and only for a very limited time like a few weeks in order "to buy time" and to release pressure off the hospital system. In Europe, most strict lockdowns started at the end of October and are still ongoing. Most people don't expect any easing of these lockdowns until Easter, which this year is on April 4th.

That means: 5 months (nearly half a year) of almost pure lockdowns with closed restaurants, closed gyms, closed shops, yet "cases" have continued to increase which means that the virus is still spreading and continues to mutate. This also means that lockdowns have an extremely limited use.

Directly from the WHO website: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19.Lockdowns have literally no good effect is stopping the virus. Look at California and New York as opposed to Florida and Texas. In fact long term lockdowns (anything more than a month) make people more vulnerable to the virus as their body (immune system) forgets how to fight against unknown pathogens.

Not Savvy
02-09-21, 23:47
Unfortunately for him, we all heard the same thing, sad to see that some guys still believe that the girls are looking for orgasm, good sex, big cock. They are just looking for money. I always recommend to the guys who are thinking differently to go 1 day to her favorite in a FKK and telling today you have no money, I can already guess the answer of the girl.We are here in a place where we can fantasize about everything, like we are in a FKK. Why not pretend a Superman.

I have seen many regulars of this forum in clubs. The guy with the nicest body among them never writes about his body and likes to talk about statistics in this forum. This is an interesting fact.

McAdonis
02-10-21, 02:17
Being bullied makes young people incredibly insecure: When you're being bullied, you can feel constantly insecure and on guard. Even if you're not actively being bullied, you're aware it could start anytime. It has a big mental and emotional impactyou feel unaccepted, isolated, angry, and withdrawn. You're always wondering how you can do better and how you can escape a bully's notice. You're also stunted because of the constant tension and because maybe you forego making certain friendships or miss out on taking certain chances that could actually help your development.Everything you mention is well documented, but I think supportive parents can soften most if not all of the of the impact of bullying. In an ideal world, parents would emphasize early childhood development and the teaching of social skills. If a child is 4 years old, but still has the social skills of a 2 year old, he will be ostracized. And once he gets ostracized, and he has no children his age to play with, his social skills will fall further and further behind. Social skills get stunted and it just becomes too difficult to catch-up. In that sense, it is no different than reading or arithmetic.

Unfortunately, getting bullied is a normal part of life for boys. It will always exist. So one should be equipped so that they can overcome bullies. Many people who were bullied find their niche. If you are short, fat, or a minority, you can develop other parts of your personality. Many comedians honed their skills because making other children laugh was their pathway to being well-liked, and that allowed them to "escape their bully's notice". Many successful people were bullied. Elon Musk and Chris Rock come immediately to mind. They used it as fuel to prove people wrong and succeed in life. Many boxing and MMA champions were bullied as children and that motivated them to learn self-defense. But yes, you are right others get discouraged and withdraw. They lose confidence and stop trying in life (socially, academically, or professionally). They find a safe space and stay there. I think that is fine too, as long as they aren't bitter and angry at the world like some incel shooter.

Chris Rock was bullied when he attended an all-white school:


That was just a horrible existence, Rock said. The closest character I can relate to is Tim Robbins in The Shawshank. Every day was hell. I was a n-r, and I got fing my ass beat. And I got physically fed up, and sometimes some sexual s happened, and yeah. I wasnt raped, but rape-ish.

I was doing a movie a couple of years ago, and one of my bullies was working security on the movie. A guy who literally, one day at school, turned me upside down and shook the money out of my pockets.

When Rock first saw his former bully, he wasnt sure it was him. However, they both quickly realized that they knew each other for a very bad reason.

Im filming a scene, this is Top Five, and I look and Im like, Is that B? Ill just say B. And he nodded He was kind of ashamed. And I just gave him a quick look like, Hey man, I hope youre doing well. Take care.

Despite the immense power Rock had at the time as the director of the film, he chose not to take revenge on his former bully. Instead, he turned the other cheek and allowed the unnamed man to marinate on what was happening.

I kept it moving, I didnt like, Get him off the set, get him fired! Rock said. His sin has punished him. He couldve been my friend. The fact that he had to go through that whole day and watch me walk around and watch me be me, in all my glory. And to be so close to me, but yet so motherfing far.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/chris-rock-ran-into-one-of-his-childhood-bullies-on-the-set-of-top-five-a-guy-who-turned-me-upside-down-and-shook-money-out-of-my-pockets.html/..

Mursenary
02-10-21, 06:08
Lockdowns have literally no good effect is stopping the virus. Look at California and New York as opposed to Florida and Texas. In fact long term lockdowns (anything more than a month) make people more vulnerable to the virus as their body (immune system) forgets how to fight against unknown pathogens.Okay pal, there hasn't been real "lock downs" in the USA since last summer.

Does anyone here actually live in Texas, NY, FL, and CA? Or visited in 2020/21? In 2020, I spent a month in NYC. My permanent home is in Florida and have returned half dozen times for a total of about a month's time. There were little differences in restrictions. NYC, NY had 10 pm mandatory closures and Miami, FL had a midnight curfew. Both had similar indoor occupancy requirements. Smaller towns and cities in both states had similar minimal regulations.

So really have no idea what you are talking about with lock downs outside of regurgitated rightwing talking points.

Mursenary
02-10-21, 06:30
The lockdowns have actually kept this virus alive for much longer than normal, allowing multiple mutations, but at the same time they have completely destroyed the economy that is needed to support a healthcare system. Merkel and Macron have done the opposite of what is logical.

This is why the WHO recommends lockdowns only as an absolute LAST resort, and only for a very limited time like a few weeks in order "to buy time" and to release pressure off the hospital system. In Europe, most strict lockdowns started at the end of October and are still ongoing. Most people don't expect any easing of these lockdowns until Easter, which this year is on April 4th.

That means: 5 months (nearly half a year) of almost pure lockdowns with closed restaurants, closed gyms, closed shops, yet "cases" have continued to increase which means that the virus is still spreading and continues to mutate. This also means that lockdowns have an extremely limited use.

Directly from the WHO website: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19.Why has Mexico, with next to zero restrictions, had some of the worst case numbers in the world?

Cases increasing in Europe? Where besides France? In Germany, max cases was 6 weeks ago. Current case numbers are under 10 K when it was over 25 K in late January.

It seems like you're imagining things as if you're actually rooting for the coronavirus.

Mursenary
02-10-21, 06:35
All medicals, even in US, except you, tell about mutants, at least 4 known at the moment and EU countries closed borders, even inside EU because of mutants spreading, when I have nothing to do with this EU decision to try to protect us, when I would really prefer to go to ski, or to FKK land, than closed borders and no ski at the moment in France nor Germany nor Italy. Don't you have a Californian mutant? With California which was down under very few weeks ago. UK was in panic and London out of control on beginning of this new year, under their mutant.So what are "all medicals" saying about mutants in relation to vaccines efficacy?

You still haven't answered the question:


Question, can you define what determines when a mutation becomes called a "mutant"? Can you tell me what actually differentiates one "mutant" from another?It doesn't seem like you know.

Mursenary
02-10-21, 06:36
The consequences of bullying on feeble minds are terrible.

Being bullied makes young people incredibly insecure: When you're being bullied, you can feel constantly insecure and on guard. Even if you're not actively being bullied, you're aware it could start anytime. It has a big mental and emotional impactyou feel unaccepted, isolated, angry, and withdrawn. You're always wondering how you can do better and how you can escape a bully's notice. You're also stunted because of the constant tension and because maybe you forego making certain friendships or miss out on taking certain chances that could actually help your development.Bingo fellas, nailed it.

HammerTime96
02-10-21, 10:21
As Jed Clampett used to say, "take off your shoes, set a spell" because you are going to be waiting a very long time. Wink.What's "unsubstantiated" about my claim that no long term studies have been done?

We simply do not know all long term effects, because all those "vaccines" are deployed under "emergency-use rules" allowing them to skip long term studies.

You want to see long term studies? Look in the mirror: you are it! You're the Guinea pig, and DNA altering side effects simply can NOT be ruled out!

The fact that pharmaceutical companies are NOT liable for any side effects should be a huge red flag for everybody, but government trolls like yourself and Murcenary continue to gaslight here, trying to twist my words around.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/11/pfizer-biontech-interim-report-promising-but-lack-of-data-very-concerning/


“The lack of data is very concerning,” adds Peter Doshi, associate professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy. “All we have right now is a headline by Pfizer.”Would you buy a car that has never been thoroughly tested? Would you drive 200 km / h on the German Autobahn with the risk that the brakes might not work or the suspension might collapse because the car manufacturer has not tested those components? Would you feel screwed over if you couldn't even sue the manufacturer while you spend the rest of your life in a wheel chair after the car crash?

Suckers who blindly believe the unverified claims from a pharmaceutical company are probably the same suckers who blindly believe the claims from a working girl and then are fleeced and upsold when they go to a room with her. LOL!

Sirioja
02-10-21, 11:11
The best way to improve your condition is with sex. I do different positions for enjoyment, the bonus is that I get to work out all my muscles. Pleasure and keeping fit in one go. Life is good.Do you see only fit, looking a bit sporty guys in brothels? Just ask girls and also about what many guys do in room, or just under shower or in lockers, when I feel insulted when girls say: You are a pornstar, fucking more than in 20's guys, when I have to be careful with most of WGs who don't have normal women vagina potential, even when you are their first choice to start their day, or when you take them on late night and feel them tight like a virgin. For my sports, to perform, I need to look at my weight which is my enemy versus chronometer, when I always only go to break my records, when I feel I can't, I prefer to give up to save my energy for next day. Stopped 6 times in col la Bonette 2802 meters high on last Summer when weather was complicated to perform under 2 hours. 39/24 or 28 is good for this 23 kms climbing.

TonyMontanaaO7
02-10-21, 13:12
Lockdowns have literally no good effect is stopping the virus. Look at California and New York as opposed to Florida and Texas. In fact long term lockdowns (anything more than a month) make people more vulnerable to the virus as their body (immune system) forgets how to fight against unknown pathogens.Lockdowns are a good tactic in situations where transmission is spiraling out of control and there is a threat of the health system being overwhelmed. As Nabarro says, they can "buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources".

But they should not be used as the main strategy against COVID-19 more broadly. And the decision to impose a lockdown should be considered carefully, with the benefits weighed against the often very significant consequences.

Lockdowns also have a disproportionate impact on the most disadvantaged people in society. This cost is greater still in poorer countries, where not going to work can mean literally having no food to eat.

Mursenary
02-10-21, 13:49
Maybe not in the 90's, but I'm sure that in the 2000's some girls had a crush on Elijah Wood when he saved our asses by entering the Mordor.

Well maybe a tiny part of them are fantasizing about an ageing creepy version of Elijah.You have the wrong hobbit. It was the one with the wavy hair and irresistible face. It's this one:

Or perhaps the second one.

"My FKK Eve, My precioussss, my precioussss!

Mursenary
02-10-21, 16:16
Unfortunately, getting bullied is a normal part of life for boys. It will always exist. Small side note. My workplace is easily 70% women. Believe me when I say that bullying in the female world is just as ferocious, perhaps much more, especially bullying of the mental variety.


Many people who were bullied find their niche.

Many successful people were bullied. Elon Musk and Chris Rock come immediately to mind. They used it as fuel to prove people wrong and succeed in life.

But yes, you are right others get discouraged and withdraw. They lose confidence and stop trying in life (socially, academically, or professionally). They find a safe space and stay there. I think that is fine too, as long as they aren't bitter and angry at the world like some incel shooter.For every Musk or Chris Rock, there are probably hundreds of millions that end end up in the fringe news and conspiracy theory world.


Chris Rock was bullied when he attended an all-white school:

When Rock first saw his former bully, he wasnt sure it was him. However, they both quickly realized that they knew each other for a very bad reason.

Despite the immense power Rock had at the time as the director of the film, he chose not to take revenge on his former bully. Instead, he turned the other cheek and allowed the unnamed man to marinate on what was happening. "The best revenge is living a better life" -Paraphrased from George Herbert.

Mursenary
02-10-21, 17:36
What's "unsubstantiated" about my claim that no long term studies have been done?

We simply do not know all long term effects, because all those "vaccines" are deployed under "emergency-use rules" allowing them to skip long term studies.Vaccines have been tested with the same phase III rigor as other pharmaceuticals.

Another and myself have explained to you that evaluation of efficacy and safety are made after phase III results. Have explained that with any other medication, participants are followed for usually less than a year during phase III after which that participant is progressed into phase IV, a phase that does not factor into initial pharmaceutical FDA approval. Have explained to you that the reason phase III usually takes years is due to waiting for funding and participant enrollment. Have explained to you that phase III was completed quickly for these vaccines because funding and waiting for an participant enrollment did not obstruct the timeline.

Your choice not to listen.


DNA altering side effects simply can NOT be ruled out!Same thing as saying when you have a blueprint for a bridge, it cannot be ruled out that a double sided dildo would be constructed by accident. You're not technically wrong. But, probability and statistics. And burden of proof.

Still waiting for your DNA alteration source. Autoimmune side effects source?

Crickets.


government trolls like yourself and Murcenary continue to gaslight here, trying to twist my words around.Gaslighting: psychological manipulating someone into questioning their sanity.

Questioning your own sanity. Yes. Go with that. Self evaluate.

BigBuddy69
02-10-21, 19:52
You have the wrong hobbit. It was the one with the wavy hair and irresistible face. It's this one:

Or perhaps the second one.

"My FKK Eve, My precioussss, my precioussss!The hair, the stare, everything look familiar. As for the second one, I thought he was hiding in a grotto, not under some stairs or behind a pillar?

McAdonis
02-10-21, 20:14
Small side note. My workplace is easily 70% women. Believe me when I say that bullying in the female world is just as ferocious, perhaps much more, especially bullying of the mental variety.OP was talking about victims foregoing relationships and stunting their own development, so I assumed he was speaking about childhood bullying as opposed to workplace bullying. With childhood bullying, the research shows girls are more likely to get bullied than boys: 30 percent of girls versus 22 percent of boys: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/13/girls-more-likely-to-be-bullied-than-boys-english-schools-survey-finds.

When a girl gets bullied, she just gets excluded from the "popular group", but aside from suffering from lower self-esteem, she still develops socially at the same rate as her peers, because bullied girls are still able to form friendships with less popular girls. When a boy gets bullied, there is a higher possibility that he will withdraw socially, playing video games all day to escape reality. He rejects the world, before the world can reject him. He might enter adulthood without ever having a single friend, much less a GF. Result: arrested social development, sometimes accompanied with bitterness and anger at the world.

Sirioja
02-10-21, 20:38
So what are "all medicals" saying about mutants in relation to vaccines efficacy?

You still haven't answered the question:

It doesn't seem like you know.I m not a medical, but maybe you didn't hear, despite your draws, UK telling their Aztra which is for less than 65, would not be efficient versus south African, when UK, south African and Brazilian already spreading in Western Europe which decided to close borders, even inside, to prevent big spreading of mutants, when original is at home in Europe since a while. Once again, not my decision when I would prefer to go to ski, but EU decision and I trust them about trying to save life. Didn't you also hear about Californian mutant and California which was down under few weeks ago? For my job, I have to listen news daily, to try not to have too big problems.

Mursenary
02-11-21, 01:12
OP was talking about victims foregoing relationships and stunting their own development, so I assumed he was speaking about childhood bullying as opposed to workplace bullying. With childhood bullying, the research shows girls are more likely to get bullied than boys: 30 percent of girls versus 22 percent of boys: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/13/girls-more-likely-to-be-bullied-than-boys-english-schools-survey-finds.

When a girl gets bullied, she just gets excluded from the "popular group", but aside from suffering from lower self-esteem, she still develops socially at the same rate as her peers, because bullied girls are still able to form friendships with less popular girls. When a boy gets bullied, there is a higher possibility that he will withdraw socially, playing video games all day to escape reality. He rejects the world, before the world can reject him. He might enter adulthood without ever having a single friend, much less a GF. Result: arrested social development, sometimes accompanied with bitterness and anger at the world.I agree with you with the end effect of males ending up more as social outcasts, even to the point of incel mass murderers or the Japanese recluse. But I would hesitate to relegate the ferocity of female bullying to "just" exclusion from the popular group and low self esteem. Even the "less popular" girls can be pretty harsh to each other, especially if the girl is sort of a weirdo or a type A know-it-all.

Isn't the social rejection the root cause of the psychological issues or do we believe that the physical part of bullying is the key difference? I would actually say that psychological bullying and social rejection is more detrimental to women because they evolutionarily need the group more than men. After all, there is the male lonewolf archetype that is okay on his own. But that's usually the kind of guy who prefers that path, not thrown into it due to social rejection. The type of guy who can live by himself for a month in a cabin in the woods with only a monthly visit in town to restock supplies (and perhaps the visit to that western saloon for a whiskey and a session with a prostitute.). Actually I do know a 60 year old loner who hates going into the city but every time he does he visits an Asian Massage parlor.

Just a theory, I believe the effect would be the same if women were not in the position of desire by men. Even the lowest tier women would stumble across a man who would desire her, even pay for her. Or the fact that we all know the girls with no female friends but end up becoming accepted by a group of dorky males. I think girls are saved from the path of becoming m internet weirdos or mass shooters, not because female psychological bullying is less detrimental, but rather because women can always find a group of males that would include her in group activities. As such, even the bullied girls are provided a path for social development.

Mursenary
02-11-21, 01:17
The hair, the stare, everything look familiar. As for the second one, I thought he was hiding in a grotto, not under some stairs or behind a pillar?Every so often the baby troll must come out from under his bridge. Usually he blocks the bridge so no one can cross and claims that all the people come from all over the world because they desire to be him, when it fact, the people just want him to stop blocking the fucking path so they can continue on their journey.

Mursenary
02-11-21, 01:45
I m not a medical, but maybe you didn't hear, despite your draws, UK telling their Aztra which is for less than 65, would not be efficient versus south African, when UK, south African and Brazilian already spreading in Western Europe which decided to close borders, even inside, to prevent big spreading of mutants, when original is at home in Europe since a while. Once again, not my decision when I would prefer to go to ski, but EU decision and I trust them about trying to save life. Didn't you also hear about Californian mutant and California which was down under few weeks ago? For my job, I have to listen news daily, to try not to have too big problems.What's a "medical"? What's a "draws"?

Don't you know that there like already 5 other approved vaccines besides AZ?

Maybe you don't know that AZ is different than the rest because it is a DNA vaccine, not an mRNA or attenuated live viral vaccine? Maybe you don't know that the AZ study in Africa produced zero cases of severe disease, only mild and moderate symptoms. Maybe you don't know that while AZ vaccine is not the best, it is still good enough to decrease the number of people from becoming hospitalize and dying. Maybe you don't know that South Africa is moving forward with the Johnson and Johnson vaccine because it WAS proven effective in South Africa. Maybe you don't know that JJ, while less efficacious than the Moderna and Pfizer, is more easily stored and can be given in one single dose. Maybe you don't know that JJ vaccine is better suited to be administered in poor countries where they don't have negative 30 see freezers, where the infrastructure and rural areas makes it even more difficult to get people to come back for a second shot? Maybe you don't know that is actually okay because the poorest countries are also the countries with the youngest people so don't need the most potent vaccine.

Didn't you hear that the South African, UK, and California variants also came from places where case number have been decreasing the entire time you have been ranting about the scary mutants?

Watch the news for your job? Hah! It IS my job. While you get your facts from laymen news reporters, it's actually my job to know. And how do I verify the facts? From Infectious Disease doctors who are specialist, much more informed than myself, not by reading a headline meant to be sensational in order to drive more readers and viewers.

And also, it's obvious that you let your personal contempt drive your bias.

At least you're not like the other fringe conspiracy nut jobs who I believe to actually be rooting for the virus and against the vaccine. Twisted people they are.

Paulie97
02-11-21, 05:04
Same thing as saying when you have a blueprint for a bridge, it cannot be ruled out that a double sided dildo would be constructed by accident. You're not technically wrong. But, probability and statistics. And burden of proof.

Still waiting for your DNA alteration source. Autoimmune side effects source?Crickets.Monger forums, for whatever reason, are an endless sea of logical fallacies. This just goes to demonstrate that the ability to pay for pussy in no way implies that one is educated and / or honest.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

Turgid
02-11-21, 14:37
Small side note. My workplace is easily 70% women. Believe me when I say that bullying in the female world is just as ferocious, perhaps much more, especially bullying of the mental variety....Female bosses may not harass you sexually but they can make your work life very difficult. I once refused the advances of a female work mate, then she became my boss and made my work life a living hell.

Canary
02-11-21, 14:46
I m not a medical, but maybe you didn't hear, despite your draws, UK telling their Aztra which is for less than 65, would not be efficient versus south African, when UK, south African and Brazilian already spreading in Western Europe which decided to close borders, even inside, to prevent big spreading of mutants, when original is at home in Europe since a while. Once again, not my decision when I would prefer to go to ski, but EU decision and I trust them about trying to save life. Didn't you also hear about Californian mutant and California which was down under few weeks ago? For my job, I have to listen news daily, to try not to have too big problems.Listening to the proper medical experts and scientists I certainly wouldn't be concerned about receiving the AZ vaccine, in fact living in the UK I'm likely to receive it.

I would much prefer to have it than nothing at all when it's clearly shown to currently stop hospitalizations, serious illness & prevent death with all the current variants.

McAdonis
02-11-21, 17:05
Isn't the social rejection the root cause of the psychological issues or do we believe that the physical part of bullying is the key difference? I would actually say that psychological bullying and social rejection is more detrimental to women because they evolutionarily need the group more than men.With boys, the victim tends to be permanently excluded from the group. With girls, it is more common for the victim to be friends with her bully. So when she is on good terms with her bully, the opportunities to socialize still exist, until ofc the next falling out occurs.


Bullying among friends, also known as relational bullying, stems from a natural tendency to develop an identity based on your friends. Young people often join groups defined by who is included or excluded, experts say, but it crosses the line when it becomes a sustained campaign to hurt someone who is not currently "in."

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/29/living/bullying-friends/index.html.
Girls use exclusion as a way to both maintain social status and keep others from obtaining social status. Girls within a friendship group can also exclude their own friends. These alliances within a friendship group can change from week to week and sometimes, day to day. In some cases, a girl may never really know where she stands in her group, and this uncertainty can cause stress and anxiety.

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/surviving-relational-aggression-tips-for-adults-and-girls-0315174
I would agree, compared to boys, girls have a greater need to be part of the group. If a girl gets bullied, she will work harder to gain approval of the friendship group that temporarily banished her, or she will seek out a different friendship group. Boys who are bullied go play in the sandbox by themselves.


After all, there is the male lonewolf archetype that is okay on his own. But that's usually the kind of guy who prefers that path, not thrown into it due to social rejection. The type of guy who can live by himself for a month in a cabin in the woods with only a monthly visit in town to restock supplies (and perhaps the visit to that western saloon for a whiskey and a session with a prostitute.). Actually I do know a 60 year old loner who hates going into the city but every time he does he visits an Asian Massage parlor.Like you say, this archetype probably had friends at one time, and then later on in life made the choice to lead a solitary life. I don't claim to be the most emotional intelligent person in the world, but I can somewhat read social cues. But some guys I have met in the club? They have borderline Aspergers. It seems evident that they have not had many opportunities to socialize.


Just a theory, I believe the effect would be the same if women were not in the position of desire by men. Even the lowest tier women would stumble across a man who would desire her, even pay for her. Or the fact that we all know the girls with no female friends but end up becoming accepted by a group of dorky males. I think girls are saved from the path of becoming m internet weirdos or mass shooters, not because female psychological bullying is less detrimental, but rather because women can always find a group of males that would include her in group activities. As such, even the bullied girls are provided a path for social development.The scenario you paint probably wouldn't materialize until the lower-tier woman reached her teens, after she had already experienced ten years of bullying. But the point is valid, because a socially rejected girl may get boost of self-esteem, and then start making attempts to socialize, undoing some of that early childhood trauma. The socially rejected boy, who does not receive attention from the opposite sex, will see his self-esteem plummet even further during adolescence.

Society and parents play a role as well. A little girl that gets bullied, will be comforted when she runs home crying. She will be encouraged to express her emotional pain. Society expects boys to stand up to their bullies, and not show emotional vulnerability, so boys who get bullied are more likely to hide the fact that they were bullied out of shame. And that emotional pain gets bottled up, and it festers. If a parent sees their ten-year old daughter, sitting in a dark room, playing video games 16 hours a day, that parent will probably intervene. With boys, some parents might find this behavior acceptable.

Mursenary
02-11-21, 20:33
With boys, the victim tends to be permanently excluded from the group. With girls, it is more common for the victim to be friends with her bully. So when she is on good terms with her bully, the opportunities to socialize still exist, until ofc the next falling out occurs.

I would agree, compared to boys, girls have a greater need to be part of the group. If a girl gets bullied, she will work harder to gain approval of the friendship group that temporarily banished her, or she will seek out a different friendship group. Boys who are bullied go play in the sandbox by themselves.

Like you say, this archetype probably had friends at one time, and then later on in life made the choice to lead a solitary life. I don't claim to be the most emotional intelligent person in the world, but I can somewhat read social cues. But some guys I have met in the club? They have borderline Aspergers. It seems evident that they have not had many opportunities to socialize.

The scenario you paint probably wouldn't materialize until the lower-tier woman reached her teens, after she had already experienced ten years of bullying. But the point is valid, because a socially rejected girl may get boost of self-esteem, and then start making attempts to socialize, undoing some of that early childhood trauma. The socially rejected boy, who does not receive attention from the opposite sex, will see his self-esteem plummet even further during adolescence.I think we have very differing views on female psychology, the sociology behind their relationships, and the way those principals manifest themselves in the group setting.

I think a lot of your points unfortunately dates us as officially old dudes as many scenarios you describe are no longer the reality for today's kids. Today's fathers don't push their sons to have stone hearts anymore. Instead of watching sports on the couch after work, today's father might be taking his kid to a Crossfit class with him and have a low carb smoothie afterwards. It's now socially acceptable to raise an emotionally sensitive boy, it may actually even be encouraged. While parents may be alarmed if their daughters have the same video game habits as boys, they are not as concerned with the girl scrolling on her phone for hours and hours on end. These girls even spend hours playing mobile games themselves on their phones.

In my worldview, I believe that it is easier to read a room full of men or boys to get a sense of the hierarchy, alliances, and any existing tensions. If it were a medieval court, it would be easy to figure out who were the noblemen, who were the knights, and who were the court jesters.

For girls and women, the relationships are much more subtle and definitely more calculating, a Game of Thrones energy really. The scenario of girls being friends with her tormentor is a charade. They're not really friends. If you think about it, I'm sure you can recall many female-female relationships that present as friendships but in realty they are just alliances for either beneficial gain for even sadomasochism as I think females actually enjoy the dramatics of social maneuvering. What's worse, the situation of the girl victim being fake friends with her bully may be even more psychosocially abusive as now she is a social captor likely subjected to the regular barrage of daily passive aggressive interactions, while not full blown conflict. Think the movie "Mean Girls."

We can chalk off this Machiavellian social dynamic as not developing until adolescence, but in recent years I have been surprised by the manipulative behaviors seen in the daughters of my friends. My peer group consists of parents of children from infants to early teens. Let me tell you, the age that scares me the most is the 5-10 year old kids, not the tweens and teenagers. In the 80's and 90's, Junior High was when kids generally divided into groups of cool kids, nerdy kids, dorky kids, rich kids, poor kids, etc. That's sort of when the the manipulative behaviors would arise, the cattiness, the snarkiness, etc.

Today, I think those dynamics arise earlier. The way I see these 8 year old girls manipulate their peers and even adults, it's scary. Extrapolating this to a school environment where kids are free to form their own groups and hierarchies with minimal adult supervision, I can imagine how twisted the social webs of 3rd and 4th grade classes can be. Think "Lord of the Flies".

Thinking back to my days as literally the only Asian-American kid in the American Deep South surrounded by mostly low income blacks and whites whose parents were largely culturally ignorant, I was definitely ostracized regularly. School bus rides home were especially dreaded as that's when the boys really tested each other as a single adult bus driver cannot see what's happening in the back of a 10 meter school bus. But many other boys were bullied by the same handful of asshole kids. As such, I can't recall a situation where there was a boy who literally had no friends or allies at all.

I think that is another key gender difference. With the girls, they are all capable of being super cunts to each other, that's their game. Boys, on the other hand, usually just have to deal with a handful of assholes that go around trying to make life hell for other kids. A bullied boy is hardly ever the only one.

Sirioja
02-11-21, 21:06
Listening to the proper medical experts and scientists I certainly wouldn't be concerned about receiving the AZ vaccine, in fact living in the UK I'm likely to receive it.

I would much prefer to have it than nothing at all when it's clearly shown to currently stop hospitalizations, serious illness & prevent death with all the current variants.In France, they give UK AZ to less than 65 and medical. Don't UK plan other injection after AZ? Versus mutants.

Sirioja
02-11-21, 21:30
What's a "medical"? What's a "draws"?

Don't you know that there like already 5 other approved vaccines besides AZ?

Maybe you don't know that AZ is different than the rest because it is a DNA vaccine, not an mRNA or attenuated live viral vaccine? Maybe you don't know that the AZ study in Africa produced zero cases of severe disease, only mild and moderate symptoms. Maybe you don't know that while AZ vaccine is not the best, it is still good enough to decrease the number of people from becoming hospitalize and dying. Maybe you don't know that South Africa is moving forward with the Johnson and Johnson vaccine because it WAS proven effective in South Africa. Maybe you don't know that JJ, while less efficacious than the Moderna and Pfizer, is more easily stored and can be given in one single dose. Maybe you don't know that JJ vaccine is better suited to be administered in poor countries where they don't have negative 30 see freezers, where the infrastructure and rural areas makes it even more difficult to get people to come back for a second shot? Maybe you don't know that is actually okay because the poorest countries are also the countries with the youngest people so don't need the most potent vaccine..But for real, when only Pfizer and AZ at the moment in EU, waiting for Moderna, I know EU decided to close inside borders because of mutants already spreading and UK are forbidden in Germany or Spain and nothing about brexit. My job being much more complicated now about safety with french administration, can't work now from my car. But never forget Sharks story and for another French with Bob Marley daughter at LR, so can you imagine what I can think about such level of desperate guys writing here, just laughable when I know and saw looks, when no girl can 't say same story about me. I doubt my girls would give much details about our sex.

PumDiPum
02-12-21, 02:36
If the virus mutants are as harmless as the original sars cov2 was in winter / spring 2020.

(at the peak mid April, 3000 ill people needed a ventilator, Germany easily has 1000 hospitals who are able to handle many covid19 victims, so an average of 3 covid19 victims per hospital, far far away from collapsing).

And government don't start to double up the number of weekly tests in the near future, than the hairdressers are going to open from the 1st of March again. Good news. You know what was the explanation of government for opening the hairdressers?

Because a order, fresh haircut is hygienic!

Maybe Angie and her 16 MP's, plus a few corrupt scientists should take a look in history. As public enemies, people who didn't fit in the system and the Jewish people were sitting in concentration camps. These people had very hygienic haircuts, the whole head was completely shaved.

Hygienic haircuts.

Everybody in Germany with dreadlocks, everybody who knows someone who had dreadlocks once in lifetime, everybody who had or has long hair to make a political statement, everybody who has dry head skin from too much chemical shampoo, get up, stand up!

A bit over 2. 3 million positive test results so far. Close to 2. 1 million are officially recovered. Even without a specific Corona medicine, Germany has a recovery rate of 90.3%. Don't be afraid, just careful.

I don't talk about the death, because the saying goes "rest in peace" not "rest in propaganda".

83.6 million German citizens, 159.300 active cases. Only 0. 19% of the citizens are currently, officially infected.

Warning!

Sirioja
02-12-21, 10:26
If the virus mutants are as harmless as the original sars cov2 was in winter / spring 2020.

(at the peak mid April, 3000 ill people needed a ventilator, Germany easily has 1000 hospitals who are able to handle many covid19 victims, so an average of 3 covid19 victims per hospital, far far away from collapsing).

And government don't start to double up the number of weekly tests in the near future, than the hairdressers are going to open from the 1st of March again. Good news. You know what was the explanation of government for opening the hairdressers?

Because a order, fresh haircut is hygienic!

Maybe Angie and her 16 MP's, plus a few corrupt scientists should take a look in history. As public enemies, people who didn't fit in the system and the Jewish people were sitting in concentration camps. These people had very hygienic haircuts, the whole head was completely shaved.

Hygienic haircuts.Isn't Germany suffering much more, with much more deaths, since end of 2020 than under first wave 1 year ago? In north of France, more than 20% cases are UK variant and in East of France, very close to Germany, 500 south African and Brazilian cases when nobody was found coming from these countries or close, so I m pretty sure quite same in our German neighbour and don't Germany forbid UK and not EU, when not good for German economy, as also not good for France nor Spain which also forbid UK. And unfortunately, not enough vaccine in EU to protect our weak people, Germany thinking about Russian sputnik. I really wish France will get enough vaccine for at risk people, but even I love Russia, Russian beauties, but wish won t buy sputnik, for Navalnyi, when Russians didn't even try to get French medical administration allowance at the moment. I m afraid 2021 will kill more than 2020 did. EU closing being to try to protect our citizens, when original and mutants were not born in continental EU.

Sirioja
02-12-21, 11:47
When I like so much to share about passion, on my sports, even sometimes a bit complicate to communicate with foreigners, but really interesting to share a bit of passion, each one on own level, facing yourself for level, but really enjoyable and even giving new energy. Sometimes meeting while climbing, and climbing together for a while, even not speaking much, not to waste energy, but you hear breathe rhythm and you know. More complicated on extreme free ride, but when sometimes arriving above a blind hidden spot like above Chancel lake la Grave la Meije, impossible to see below, but since 2003, now I know a bit for 2 spots, even never the same, but at least I know the way and for rocks everywhere, so sometimes opening the run for others and keeping on together for a while, feeling so alive after such run, we are all smiling, sharing our sensations, really interesting. When guys in brothels, from their behavior and words about women, like some write here from their porn culture, and when you know about stories for few here and you saw them, so pathetic and laughable compare to what they write, really not interesting level for me, I only drive for girls, but not to find a prostitute girlfriend like some here, when I don't share my girlfriends, but just for easy, fast, with no risk pleasure, when girls may think I'm in love because they are not used to such way with women, but you control all as some say, when I don't look for a girlfriend working in brothels, not even for escort, when I don't need their money, even when I meet for 15 hours on a month, but never proposed anything out of club. Woman image and behavior is just enough for my pleasure, and when you had women in real life, then You know the big difference. I really don't need to make brothels friends, when I don't need to get information about girls nor to ask to find a girl, when I have my eyes and brain to choose. Many followers went to my girls, being disappointed, made me laugh and was happy about that. We are different as say girls, so, they are different with us, and I like when they trust me following my game and return to repeat, when I won't run after to repeat, they know, they can judge, they are free to decide, as sang Dolores O Riordan with Irish Cranberries.

BigBuddy69
02-12-21, 13:35
What you say has absolutely no sense, I think you're suffering from a severe brain infection caused by the coronavirus.

McAdonis
02-12-21, 15:27
I think a lot of your points unfortunately dates us as officially old dudes as many scenarios you describe are no longer the reality for today's kids. Today's fathers don't push their sons to have stone hearts anymore. Instead of watching sports on the couch after work, today's father might be taking his kid to a Crossfit class with him and have a low carb smoothie afterwards. It's now socially acceptable to raise an emotionally sensitive boy, it may actually even be encouraged. While parents may be alarmed if their daughters have the same video game habits as boys, they are not as concerned with the girl scrolling on her phone for hours and hours on end. These girls even spend hours playing mobile games themselves on their phones.This brand of "woke" parents probably only became more prevalent after 2010. Ultimately, we will not know what type of adults their children become for another two or three decades. Old guys like us grew up with old-school gender norms and less technology. We grew up during an era where there was a stronger sense of community. If you needed your social fix, you had to leave your house and meet up with people, you could not just retreat into a dark room to find community. It is evident that many hardcore mongers, most of which were born between the 1960's and 1980's, missed out on these opportunities to socialize. Many of us lack the social intelligence to read social cues.


For girls and women, the relationships are much more subtle and definitely more calculating, a Game of Thrones energy really. The scenario of girls being friends with her tormentor is a charade. They're not really friends. If you think about it, I'm sure you can recall many female-female relationships that present as friendships but in realty they are just alliances for either beneficial gain for even sadomasochism as I think females actually enjoy the dramatics of social maneuvering. What's worse, the situation of the girl victim being fake friends with her bully may be even more psychosocially abusive as now she is a social captor likely subjected to the regular barrage of daily passive aggressive interactions, while not full blown conflict. Think the movie "Mean Girls."To be clear, I never minimized the emotional trauma that girls face when they are bullied by their "fake-friends". I do believe this type of relational aggression results in more long-term psychological damage than the physical bruises that boys get. My main point is that girls get more practice with socializing than boys do, and this is true even pre-adolescent, before the opposite sex comes into the picture. If anything, all this social maneuvering that 8 year old girls do only heightens their ability to read social situations and read social cues. Look, I experience this more when interacting with men than women: monopolization of conversations, excessive bragging, not realizing that other party is bored or annoyed, inability to see something from someone else's shoes, etc. That said, I do realize that some people have the social awareness to know that they are turning off their conversational partner, and perhaps just don't care. But I assume most are attempting to connect with their conversational partner, but just have poor social skills. Or maybe I am wrong, and they are just self-centered people looking for someone to hear them complain about life or talk about themselves. In any case, the foundation for strong social skills would have been established in early childhood.


In human children, studies have found a direct link between the amount of social practice they get and their social skills. In one group of Portuguese pre-schoolers, those who increased their social engagement experienced a corresponding boost to their social abilities, while participating in afterschool activities has been repeatedly shown to help even sport. Meanwhile, children who have more siblings tend to be more adept at navigating the social world, and as with adults, children who spend more time alone are more susceptible to interpreting social situations in self-defeating ways.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201022-how-solitude-and-isolation-can-change-how-you-think
People who lack human relationships also seem to be more prone to obsessions and fantasies. I would guess that many hardcore mongers had other solitary hobbies before coming to this world (other than porn consumption):


Apart from the inability to form relationships, loners also prefer to stick to familiar routines and are often thrown by slight changes in circumstances. Like Robert, they can be arrogant, overestimating their own abilities. As children, loners tend to have special interests verging on obsessions - coin collecting, train-spotting, electronics - pursued single-mindedly and alone. Others create a fantasy world into which they can periodically withdraw: one child invented an island with its own language, legal and political system. The fantasy began when he was four and persisted into adult life. These obsessions and fantasies seem to replace normal human relationships.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/please-just-leave-me-alone-1584161.html.

ShooBree
02-12-21, 15:47
What you say has absolutely no sense, I think you're suffering from a severe brain infection caused by the coronavirus.Why is the bigtroll allowed to continuously attack and belittle other members of this forum? That worthless troll should be banned from this site.

Canary
02-12-21, 17:07
In France, they give UK AZ to less than 65 and medical. Don't UK plan other injection after AZ? Versus mutants.UK has enough of the AZ to vaccinate the whole population with plenty spare. AZ won't stop some new mutations giving mild illness but will stop hospitalizations and death. AZ is already revamping the vaccine for mutations which will be available in the Autumn. The UK government is confident that yearly jabs like the flu will be required each year hence it is already planning for it.

The UK is currently also using the Pfizer vaccine and other vaccines are on order, it's one thing the UK government have got right as well as the vaccination programme which has now delivered over 14.5 million vaccinations.

I feel great sympathy for other continents who do not have the resources or financial ability to look after its population. Hopefully the richer countries will help them once they have sorted the problem in their own country.

Unfortunately I think the reopening of FKK venues is still far on the horizon.

Mursenary
02-12-21, 17:52
If the virus mutants are as harmless as the original sars cov2 was in winter / spring 2020.

(at the peak mid April, 3000 ill people needed a ventilator, Germany easily has 1000 hospitals who are able to handle many covid19 victims, so an average of 3 covid19 victims per hospital, far far away from collapsing).April huh? So that was after travel restrictions and such were placed wasn't it?

Still would love to know how you armchair public health experts explain the situations in Lombardi, Italy and NYC? Was it all just a hoax? Faked and filmed in a basement like the moon landing?

Mursenary
02-12-21, 18:27
But for real, when only Pfizer and AZ at the moment in EU, waiting for Moderna, I know EU decided to close inside borders because of mutants already spreading and UK are forbidden in Germany or Spain and nothing about brexit. My job being much more complicated now about safety with french administration, can't work now from my car. But never forget Sharks story and for another French with Bob Marley daughter at LR, so can you imagine what I can think about such level of desperate guys writing here, just laughable when I know and saw looks, when no girl can 't say same story about me. I doubt my girls would give much details about our sex.Since it's been an ongoing theme is these posts.

https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4419-1698-3_50


Flight of ideas is a formal thought disorder. It refers to the expression of rapidly shifting thoughts in an individual.

Flight of ideas may occur in the course of a manic episode, during a psychosis, but is not uncommon in individuals with an autistic disorder of multiple complex developmental disorder.Cues or signs to watch for when assessing mania in bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.


-Flight of ideas
-Function on just a few hours of sleep.
-May experience excessive confidence or grandiosity.
-More talkative than usual
-Very distractible
-Increased energy
-May not use discretion in their actions*Disclaimer: I am not a mental health expert. All thoughts expressed are opinions and are intended for entertainment purposes only. Should you feel you are having symptoms, please consult your local mental health professional. If you this is a medical emergency and you are having thoughts of self harm please hang up the phone and dial 911 for immediate assistance (112 in continental Europe).

Mursenary
02-12-21, 18:42
To be clear, I never minimized the emotional trauma that girls face when they are bullied by their "fake-friends". I do believe this type of relational aggression results in more long-term psychological damage than the physical bruises that boys get. My main point is that girls get more practice with socializing than boys do,

all this social maneuvering that 8 year old girls do only heightens their ability to read social situations and read social cues. Agreed.


Look, I experience this more when interacting with men than women: monopolization of conversations, excessive bragging, not realizing that other party is bored or annoyed, inability to see something from someone else's shoes, etc. That said, I do realize that some people have the social awareness to know that they are turning off their conversational partner, and perhaps just don't care. But I assume most are attempting to connect with their conversational partner, but just have poor social skills. Or maybe I am wrong, and they are just self-centered people looking for someone to hear them complain about life or talk about themselves. For many of the most vocal voices here on a message board? Likely the former. Perhaps a voice in the back of the head says to care, but primitive or pathological impulses clouds judgement and prevents such restraint.


People who lack human relationships also seem to be more prone to obsessions and fantasies. I would guess that many hardcore mongers had other solitary hobbies before coming to this world (other than porn consumption)Any association with the tendency to gravitate toward individual rather than team sports? Or even 1 v1 competition for that matter? Say cycling and skiing?

Sirioja
02-12-21, 20:42
UK has enough of the AZ to vaccinate the whole population with plenty spare. AZ won't stop some new mutations giving mild illness but will stop hospitalizations and death. AZ is already revamping the vaccine for mutations which will be available in the Autumn. The UK government is confident that yearly jabs like the flu will be required each year hence it is already planning for it.

The UK is currently also using the Pfizer vaccine and other vaccines are on order, it's one thing the UK government have got right as well as the vaccination programme which has now delivered over 14.5 million vaccinations.

I feel great sympathy for other continents who do not have the resources or financial ability to look after its population. Hopefully the richer countries will help them once they have sorted the problem in their own country.

Unfortunately I think the reopening of FKK venues is still far on the horizon.Some brothels are open in Spain and Switzerland. I m pretty sure nearly whole Switzerland and Austria should reopen before Summer. I don't know for Germany. Maybe NL before.

Sirioja
02-12-21, 20:51
Since it's been an ongoing theme is these posts.

https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4419-1698-3_50

Cues or signs to watch for when assessing mania in bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.

*Disclaimer: I am not a mental health expert. All thoughts expressed are opinions and are intended for entertainment purposes only. Should you feel you are having symptoms, please consult your local mental health professional. If you this is a medical emergency and you are having thoughts of self harm please hang up the phone and dial 911 for immediate assistance (112 in continental Europe).Stressed by administration which delay my job, but really no need of US medical like you advices, when I remember so laughable at Sharks, for a US medical. Some took credit to buy house in Romania to their brothel GF and her phone didn't work anymore, some bought very expensive watch, or even car, or sending big money, but I heard only once such story and only crazy like her could fuck not only one guy like this.

Mursenary
02-13-21, 00:19
Stressed by administration which delay my job, but really no need of US medical like you advices, when I remember so laughable at Sharks, for a US medical. Some took credit to buy house in Romania to their brothel GF and her phone didn't work anymore, some bought very expensive watch, or even car, or sending big money, but I heard only once such story and only crazy like her could fuck not only one guy like this.Yep, definitely existing on the manic end of the spectrum right now. Who broke you dude?

BigBuddy69
02-13-21, 07:19
Some gave 10 k-15 k euros to their first flame in a Spanish club for the pimp to buy a new car and got an offer for bareback anal sex in return.

Some count the used condoms in the trash bin when they visit an escort girl.

So many creepy behaviors among addicts.

ShooBree
02-13-21, 11:58
Yep, definitely existing on the manic end of the spectrum right now. Who broke you dude?Congratulations on reaching over a hundred posts in the pat three weeks. Please tell me the secret to your success.

Sirioja
02-13-21, 13:10
Yep, definitely existing on the manic end of the spectrum right now. Who broke you dude?You forgot experience at Sharks? I didn't, like for your bald French friend here about well known experience at LR. You both, as my followers, can ask all my girls and none will tell such pathetic stories about me, when I think to be able to keep control a bit more for my brain, maybe too much as say some girls who don t understand from my way to treat them when they are not used to, so, don t give me advice about my behavior, when you are really not on level to be able, and same for other French of course, when I really can't compete for such level of pathetic. When I see guys in brothels, I prefer not to be like most, when I really don t need to follow as obsessed, as told me one of my regular at Bruggen about all what she heard about me from guys, when she could judge on so many times for many years, not even needing my business.

Mursenary
02-13-21, 18:02
Congratulations on reaching over a hundred posts in the pat three weeks. Please tell me the secret to your success.Taking an interest in psych medicine. Lot of material to work with here! Thanks for your contribution!

Mursenary
02-13-21, 18:06
You forgot experience at Sharks? I didn't, like for your bald French friend here about well known experience at LR. You both, as my followers, can ask all my girls and none will tell such pathetic stories about me, when I think to be able to keep control a bit more for my brain, maybe too much as say some girls who don t understand from my way to treat them when they are not used to, so, don t give me advice about my behavior, when you are really not on level to be able, and same for other French of course, when I really can't compete for such level of pathetic. When I see guys in brothels, I prefer not to be like most, when I really don t need to follow as obsessed, as told me one of my regular at Bruggen about all what she heard about me from guys, when she could judge on so many times for many years, not even needing my business.No sir, I did not forget. But seriously, how did you get so broken. Us fans are dying to know!

If pretty much everyone tells you that something is wrong, perhaps you should consider the possibility. Your best allies may be your biggest critics. As such, the first step in fixing your problem, is to first admit that you have a problem.

Turgid
02-13-21, 19:08
I am amazed at how some of you guys know fellow mongers in FKK. I know no one and no one knows me.

I rarely talk to other hobbyists in FKK but in Sharks 2017 I was standing in line for food and the guy behind me said something and we got to talking. He was from my state and was a professional in a field similar to mine but there ended the similarity for we had different tastes in women. He was younger than me and quite handsome. His favorite was a late 20's early 30's Romanian who always sits in the same place. When you enter the club and go left around the bar you come to the manicurist who does the girls' nails. There are some couches there and opposite to the manicurist at the other end is a couch where this girl sits all the time. She's about 5 ' 5¨. From talking to this guy I gathered that in addition to his other attributes he is also quite well off. Yet he generally goes with the lesser looking girls in the club. Because of that I have thought of going with her to find out what he sees in her but never have as I always end up going with a hotter girl.

Anyway I also met him in Sharks in 2018 and 2019. He has never been to Oase, Palace or Mainhatten but some other nondescript clubs in other cities one of which is not even in ISG. In 2019 he made friends with another guy in the club and we hung out. It was fun. We actually spoke of ISG with which he is familiar, he told me he does not post and I told him the same. I will chat with a guy in the FKK but I don't think I will want him to know my ISG personna.

Mursenary
02-13-21, 19:22
Congratulations on reaching over a hundred posts in the pat three weeks. Please tell me the secret to your success.Meanwhile you have 100 in the past 4. Striking lack of self awareness.

The Cane
02-13-21, 19:59
I am amazed at how some of you guys know fellow mongers in FKK. I know no one and no one knows me.Same here, and that's how I intend to keep it for now. I was able to identify an ISG board member just based on the kind of behaviors he told us he exhibits when visiting a certain club in Spain (that's where I saw him). The member is PayForIt, and he has confirmed that most likely it was him. I've had a wing man just one time in my life, and I swore never again. The guy was a disaster fucking up my action and shit! Never again!

Sirioja
02-13-21, 21:29
No sir, I did not forget. But seriously, how did you get so broken. Us fans are dying to know!

If pretty much everyone tells you that something is wrong, perhaps you should consider the possibility. Your best allies may be your biggest critics. As such, the first step in fixing your problem, is to first admit that you have a problem.But from you and your Sharks experience, or obsessed follower bald French here with his LR experience and reading all my writings since more than 8 years, even before here, I can't compete yet with you both. I knew Japanese wrote about me on a Japanese blog, reporting I wrote Evita was Asian specialist, wasn't it true she was? I know a US tried my World regular after reading me and was not so enthusiastic than me, but just is problem being just a follower. A US advising me a new beauty at LR, to a bad guy like me, he should really hate this girl who was not new at all, but good surprise for me after 2 mn sitting and chatting with her and enjoying her many times weekly. No story like yours for both, for me, no girl will never tell such stories. When only girls interest me, my test is very simple: on introduction I ask them if they want we go, and after, I wait they return to me, and you saw at crowded GT when you waited for her and when she already asked twice, but returning for third time. Girls are free to decide with who they want to go. Just easy.

Sirioja
02-13-21, 21:39
I am amazed at how some of you guys know fellow mongers in FKK. I know no one and no one knows me.

I rarely talk to other hobbyists in FKK but in Sharks 2017 I was standing in line for food and the guy behind me said something and we got to talking. He was from my state and was a professional in a field similar to mine but there ended the similarity for we had different tastes in women. He was younger than me and quite handsome. His favorite was a late 20's early 30's Romanian who always sits in the same place. When you enter the club and go left around the bar you come to the manicurist who does the girls' nails. There are some couches there and opposite to the manicurist at the other end is a couch where this girl sits all the time. She's about 5 ' 5. From talking to this guy I gathered that in addition to his other attributes he is also quite well off. Yet he generally goes with the lesser looking girls in the club. Because of that I have thought of going with her to find out what he sees in her but never have as I always end up going with a hotter girl.

Anyway I also met him in Sharks in 2018 and 2019. He has never been to Oase, Palace or Mainhatten but some other nondescript clubs in other cities one of which is not even in ISG. In 2019 he made friends with another guy in the club and we hung out. It was fun. We actually spoke of ISG with which he is familiar, he told me he does not post and I told him the same. I will chat with a guy in the FKK but I don't think I will want him to know my ISG personna.My advice and you are right: don't speak with guys in brothels, not the place to make what I call friends, but for sure place for jealousy and bullshits. I always thought brothels worth to find enjoyable girls, not to go for gay party.

BigBuddy69
02-13-21, 22:01
Taking an interest in psych medicine. Lot of material to work with here! Thanks for your contribution!If you open a practice, with all the basketcases from here, you'll be rich very soon.

ShooBree
02-14-21, 00:39
Some gave 10 k-15 k euros to their first flame in a Spanish club for the pimp to buy a new car and got an offer for bareback anal sex in return.

Some count the used condoms in the trash bin when they visit an escort girl.

So many creepy behaviors among addicts.Speaking of addicts and creepy behavior, I've noticed that you got over 1600 posts on this site. But it seems to me that you've forgotten the purpose of this site.

ShooBree
02-14-21, 00:41
Taking an interest in psych medicine. Lot of material to work with here! Thanks for your contribution!You never considered getting an actual life instead of trolling this site? It seems to me that you haven't understood the real purpose of this forum.

Mursenary
02-14-21, 02:23
But from you and your Sharks experience, or obsessed follower bald French here with his LR experience and reading all my writings since more than 8 years, even before here, I can't compete yet with you both. I knew Japanese wrote about me on a Japanese blog, reporting I wrote Evita was Asian specialist, wasn't it true she was? I know a US tried my World regular after reading me and was not so enthusiastic than me, but just is problem being just a follower. A US advising me a new beauty at LR, to a bad guy like me, he should really hate this girl who was not new at all, but good surprise for me after 2 mn sitting and chatting with her and enjoying her many times weekly. No story like yours for both, for me, no girl will never tell such stories. When only girls interest me, my test is very simple: on introduction I ask them if they want we go, and after, I wait they return to me, and you saw at crowded GT when you waited for her and when she already asked twice, but returning for third time. Girls are free to decide with who they want to go. Just easy.You talking about the time I got a hooker pregnant? Yeah, I'm still pretty proud of that. Thanks!

Meanwhile, mental health illness is for real:

Flight of ideas.

-Function on just a few hours of sleep.

-May experience excessive confidence or grandiosity.

-More talkative than usual.

-Very distractible.

-Increased energy.

-May not use discretion in their actions.

Manic or bad English. Hard to differentiate.

Mursenary
02-14-21, 02:25
Do the guys who are so much against making acquaintances in clubs have any real life relationships anyway?

Mursenary
02-14-21, 02:25
You never considered getting an actual life instead of trolling this site? It seems to me that you haven't understood the real purpose of this forum.Nope, hear just for you big guy. I love you.

Mursenary
02-14-21, 04:27
My advice and you are right: don't speak with guys in brothels, not the place to make what I call friends, but for sure place for jealousy and bullshits. I always thought brothels worth to find enjoyable girls, not to go for gay party.But here you are, posting with a bunch of dudes who you deem not worthy of friendship, in a German FKK board, when no FKK's are in Germany are open. Nope, the math doesn't quite add up.

PaulInZurich
02-14-21, 07:57
I was able to identify an ISG board member just based on the kind of behaviors he told us ... I've had a wing man just one time in my life, and I swore never again. I didn't recognize guys from ISG, but I recognized several guys posting on the Swiss forum 6 profi based on their reports. Funny how big the difference was between how they were describing themselves and how they looked in real life. Especially one guy who was claiming to be this sex connaisseur, the dream of all the prostitutes, was in reality under 1.70 m, bigfoot hairy, huge belly. I will never forget the disgusted look a prostitute had when she was massaging his furry back.

I went a few times to FKKs together with the guy who introduced me to them. While we otherwise get along really well, it just wasn't working with regards FKKs. We had completely different rhythms in the club, he was deciding very fast and was doing only one or two 30 minutes rooms, then he would have to rush home because of his family. I must admit that it was very helpful to have a wingman the first visits.

BigBuddy69
02-14-21, 08:06
Meanwhile you have 100 in the past 4. Striking lack of self awareness.It's different with shoe troll, it's a consequence of his coprolalia, coupled with his far right wing tendencies. The poor bloke is so fucked up that he can't control anything.

ShooBree
02-14-21, 09:41
Meanwhile you have 100 in the past 4. Striking lack of self awareness.Actually I've had around 75 posts in the last four weeks, 100 in the last five weeks. You can't even get simple facts right. If you had any self awareness you'd have realized that you're a stupid.

Anyways, so you're saying that you needed two weeks less than me to reach over a hundred posts. It's rather pathetic that you have to resort to whataboutism. What don't you just get a life instead?

Turgid
02-14-21, 16:32
If you open a practice, with all the basketcases from here, you'll be rich very soon.Hey, as you mentioned that I recalled a guy who used to post here many years ago called Basketcase. I wonder what became of him.

ExpatLover
02-14-21, 17:45
I didn't recognize guys from ISG, but I recognized several guys posting on the Swiss forum 6 profi based on their reports. Funny how big the difference was between how they were describing themselves and how they looked in real life. Especially one guy who was claiming to be this sex connaisseur, the dream of all the prostitutes, was in reality under 1.70 m, bigfoot hairy, huge belly. I will never forget the disgusted look a prostitute had when she was massaging his furry back.

I went a few times to FKKs together with the guy who introduced me to them. While we otherwise get along really well, it just wasn't working with regards FKKs. We had completely different rhythms in the club, he was deciding very fast and was doing only one or two 30 minutes rooms, then he would have to rush home because of his family. I must admit that it was very helpful to have a wingman the first visits.You are right, when you want to meet a no pro escort for the first time they will always ask a picture from you and to have a phone call prior to the date. The girls know how much the guys are cheating, the girls are cheating to earn money the guys are cheating I don't know for what reason.

BigBuddy69
02-14-21, 17:51
Hey, as you mentioned that I recalled a guy who used to post here many years ago called Basketcase. I wonder what became of him.I think he's still living under a few different nicknames.

BigBuddy69
02-14-21, 18:03
Do the guys who are so much against making acquaintances in clubs have any real life relationships anyway?Define real life. Define reality. Define life. Define definition.

As for wingmen, it's really complicated to have the same agenda and the same favorite places so I never took a full trip with another guy but every time I come, I try to meet a Belgian guy who has been my friend for many years and there are some other guys from the French board that I always meet with pleasure. I just try to stay clear of the weirdos, I don't want to be associated with them in one way or another, but they are easy to spot. They look like crackheads or sexual harassers: same repetitive behavior, wandering erratically in the club, staring at everyone in a very uncomfortable way.

Luckily sometimes the management takes measures against them and bye bye!

Sirioja
02-14-21, 18:53
You talking about the time I got a hooker pregnant? Yeah, I'm still pretty proud of that. Thanks!

Meanwhile, mental health illness is for real:

Flight of ideas.

-Function on just a few hours of sleep.

-May experience excessive confidence or grandiosity.

-More talkative than usual.

-Very distractible.

-Increased energy.

-May not use discretion in their actions.

Manic or bad English. Hard to differentiate.For sure, you have to be proud, when you knew you were not even the only one she played with, when she really became crazy, and you did believe her bullshits. And I forgot who you asked at LR for a girl on beginning of 2018, the one of your French bald friend here, because I understood you were both into not safe girls for risky sex. I m pretty sure no other here visited so many times per year than me, and no pride nor competition about this, but never caught bad thing from any girl, nor same pathetic stories of course for me. We really don't have same values for life. I will stay on my own values.

Sirioja
02-14-21, 19:18
I didn't recognize guys from ISG, but I recognized several guys posting on the Swiss forum 6 profi based on their reports. Funny how big the difference was between how they were describing themselves and how they looked in real life. Especially one guy who was claiming to be this sex connaisseur, the dream of all the prostitutes, was in reality under 1.70 m, bigfoot hairy, huge belly. I will never forget the disgusted look a prostitute had when she was massaging his furry back.

I went a few times to FKKs together with the guy who introduced me to them. While we otherwise get along really well, it just wasn't working with regards FKKs. We had completely different rhythms in the club, he was deciding very fast and was doing only one or two 30 minutes rooms, then he would have to rush home because of his family. I must admit that it was very helpful to have a wingman the first visits.But, even at Globe, girls can decide, so I don't understand why a girl goes with a guy if she is disgusted, if she goes and as long he doesn't force her, this is her decision to be ready for anything for money. Unfortunately, many girls are ready for nearly everything for money. Image I have of girls, depend on what I see and I usually don't go with girls I see on public exhibition, not exciting for me, prostitute more than woman image for me.

Sirioja
02-14-21, 19:46
But here you are, posting with a bunch of dudes who you deem not worthy of friendship, in a German FKK board, when no FKK's are in Germany are open. Nope, the math doesn't quite add up.Exchanging opinions here, if you tell me you prefer small blond and I prefer tall brunette, is no problem and can even be interesting to have different opinions, most feeling more confident with average looks, thinking they will do better for them, when I'm more excited and motivated by princess behavior beauties who are closer to real life for me, but nothing about friendship for me, but if you look for friends in brothels, just keep on, no problem for me, but I really don't need brothels friends, I much prefer to make friends in my sports where guys are much more interesting for me and I met 3 girlfriends making 14 years of my life at work with 2 last who came to me, wishing for a new life. But I never and don't try to find a prostitute for girlfriend, I never proposed to any girl to meet out of club, and I always avoided to answer when was proposed, not my image for a girlfriend. In brothels, I much prefer to focus on girls, when usually hard job for me to find a attractive one for me, I don't go to find friends, even too many guys need to come to talk to me and even except with few French and a German, I try to stay polite as I was at LR, even giving advice, when I never ask for advice about girls, I'm able to choose on my own.

Rocky V
02-14-21, 20:05
I am amazed at how some of you guys know fellow mongers in FKK. I know no one and no one knows me.

I rarely talk to other hobbyists in FKK but in Sharks 2017 I was standing in line for food and the guy behind me said something and we got to talking. He was from my state and was a professional in a field similar to mine but there ended the similarity for we had different tastes in women. He was younger than me and quite handsome. His favorite was a late 20's early 30's Romanian who always sits in the same place. When you enter the club and go left around the bar you come to the manicurist who does the girls' nails. There are some couches there and opposite to the manicurist at the other end is a couch where this girl sits all the time. She's about 5 ' 5. From talking to this guy I gathered that in addition to his other attributes he is also quite well off. Yet he generally goes with the lesser looking girls in the club. Because of that I have thought of going with her to find out what he sees in her but never have as I always end up going with a hotter girl.

Anyway I also met him in Sharks in 2018 and 2019. He has never been to Oase, Palace or Mainhatten but some other nondescript clubs in other cities one of which is not even in ISG. In 2019 he made friends with another guy in the club and we hung out. It was fun. We actually spoke of ISG with which he is familiar, he told me he does not post and I told him the same. I will chat with a guy in the FKK but I don't think I will want him to know my ISG personna.Once in Sharks a very prolific ISG poster came up to me and introduced himself with his ISG name and asked me about a girl I had been with. He was a very polite and pleasant older guy and we had a brief chat before he went with a girl to a room. However, I also don't tend to talk to guys in clubs, but sometimes you meet funny characters and you end up exchanging a few words with them. Like the bold smiley German guy in his 50's from Sharks, who is very tactile and always hugs girls when they approach him. I find him very funny and we had some banter a few times.

ExpatLover
02-14-21, 20:09
But, even at Globe, girls can decide, so I don't understand why a girl goes with a guy if she is disgusted, if she goes and as long he doesn't force her, this is her decision to be ready for anything for money. Unfortunately, many girls are ready for nearly everything for money. Image I have of girls, depend on what I see and I usually don't go with girls I see on public exhibition, not exciting for me, prostitute more than woman image for me.Of course they are ready for everything to get money, even play with shit in the room (explains sometimes the terrible smell), they need to feed their BF and most of them have very low self esteem.

Rocky V
02-14-21, 20:10
But, even at Globe, girls can decide, so I don't understand why a girl goes with a guy if she is disgusted, if she goes and as long he doesn't force her, this is her decision to be ready for anything for money. Unfortunately, many girls are ready for nearly everything for money. Image I have of girls, depend on what I see and I usually don't go with girls I see on public exhibition, not exciting for me, prostitute more than woman image for me.Once a girl from Globe told me they cannot reject customers 'too frequently' otherwise they get kicked out.

Sirioja
02-14-21, 20:42
Once a girl from Globe told me they cannot reject customers 'too frequently' otherwise they get kicked out.When I feel a girl doesn't welcome me, I won't insist when some obsessed followers here tell I harass girls but for real facts none never took me to any desk to complain, but many returning to repeat. If girls are able to switch off brain for everything for money, but I m not used to this, I would not know what to do with a girl if I felt she is not fine with me, few were not good for sex and I preferred to stop room not finishing when they asked me to stay to finish, but none never made me feel uncomfortable from her reactions, fortunately for me because it would kill my mood for the day, maybe returning to Paris.

ShooBree
02-14-21, 21:06
It's different with shoe troll, it's a consequence of his coprolalia, coupled with his far right wing tendencies. The poor bloke is so fucked up that he can't control anything.You should read your own posts, over 1600 posts and basically all of them are derogatory comments about other members on this site. You should go see a shrink and get some really strong pills subscribed. Just remember to take them.

The bigtroll is a great example of serious mental health issues.

ExpatLover
02-14-21, 22:48
Once a girl from Globe told me they cannot reject customers 'too frequently' otherwise they get kicked out.I was never rejected by any prostitute, yes of course in all the FKK the girls can t be too selective and also in Globe they have to work 12 hours per day and do anal sex. Most of the girls who tried Globe hated that place and left very fast.

Mursenary
02-15-21, 02:12
For sure, you have to be proud, when you knew you were not even the only one she played with, when she really became crazy, and you did believe her bullshits. And I forgot who you asked at LR for a girl on beginning of 2018, the one of your French bald friend here, because I understood you were both into not safe girls for risky sex. I m pretty sure no other here visited so many times per year than me, and no pride nor competition about this, but never caught bad thing from any girl, nor same pathetic stories of course for me. We really don't have same values for life. I will stay on my own values.Yeah, I don't lie to myself. Probably the most important value.

Mursenary
02-15-21, 02:21
Exchanging opinions here, if you tell me you prefer small blond and I prefer tall brunette, is no problem and can even be interesting to have different opinions, most feeling more confident with average looks, thinking they will do better for them, when I'm more excited and motivated by princess behavior beauties who are closer to real life for me, but nothing about friendship for me, but if you look for friends in brothels, just keep on, no problem for me, but I really don't need brothels friends, I much prefer to make friends in my sports where guys are much more interesting for me and I met 3 girlfriends making 14 years of my life at work with 2 last who came to me, wishing for a new life. But I never and don't try to find a prostitute for girlfriend, I never proposed to any girl to meet out of club, and I always avoided to answer when was proposed, not my image for a girlfriend. In brothels, I much prefer to focus on girls, when usually hard job for me to find a attractive one for me, I don't go to find friends, even too many guys need to come to talk to me and even except with few French and a German, I try to stay polite as I was at LR, even giving advice, when I never ask for advice about girls, I'm able to choose on my own.So that's your point of pride? Another monger asks for your opinion about a hooker? Man, you must really be reaching for validation. That's pretty sad little bro.

PaulInZurich
02-15-21, 10:26
... also in Globe they have to work 12 hours per day and do anal sex. Most of the girls who tried Globe hated that place and left very fast.Regarding working hours Globe is a very tough place for the girls. Pre-Covid, the new girls were told only in the evening after 9 or 10 pm, if they work the next day and at what time they start. That is tough. Girls who have been in Globe longer would have the working days agreed upon, but would know the start time for the next day as well just in the evening.

Most definitely the girls don't have to offer anal or any other extra (eg CIM). Standard service is DFK, BBBJ and covered sex. Everything else is at the discretion of the girl.

It's not surprising that girls who didn't or couldn't stick around longer hated the place. I wonder how many of these girls left on their own or were kicked out. Especially before 2018 or so, there was a long waiting list for girls who wanted a tryout in Globe since the earning potential was higher.

Sirioja
02-15-21, 10:51
I was never rejected by any prostitute, yes of course in all the FKK the girls can t be too selective and also in Globe they have to work 12 hours per day and do anal sex. Most of the girls who tried Globe hated that place and left very fast.Globe don't ask girls to provide anal and pretty sure not even CIM. Visited many times and not far from 15 visits on last year, had regulars and when CIM is for 100 and anal for 200, I was never proposed. When I went to Globe for exceptional Romanian Katalina discovered and real wow at Sharks, but Globe became the worst club for Romanians for a Romanian lover like me, spending my last Summer with new German superstar ex Artemis, when enjoying Romanian beauties at Amesia, or Freubad, or Zeus. Globe girls know how to show if they are welcoming or not, princess attitude as said, but I don't agree, not princess behavior which means for me elegance and charm, when real lack of elegance and charm now, but many silicon and average faces, for 140/30 out of extra.

Turgid
02-15-21, 14:01
I was never rejected by any prostitute...What a surprise!

PaulInZurich
02-15-21, 15:44
Once a girl from Globe told me they cannot reject customers 'too frequently' otherwise they get kicked out.How did she define "too frequently" ?

This kinda contradicts the posts from all the people complaining about the Globe "princesses" who reject everybody while waiting for their whales.

Before I was a regular, I can remember only one girl completely ignoring me when I tried to talk to her. That was at the time Micky, who came back years later as Olivia when she was much less choosy.

Rocky V
02-15-21, 21:13
How did she define "too frequently" ?

This kinda contradicts the posts from all the people complaining about the Globe "princesses" who reject everybody while waiting for their whales.

Before I was a regular, I can remember only one girl completely ignoring me when I tried to talk to her. That was at the time Micky, who came back years later as Olivia when she was much less choosy.She didn't say how frequently she could reject, but she was comparing the policy at Globe with her previous club in Germany and she said that, while in the German club she could reject guys as much as she wanted, in Globe this isn't really possible. Unless the monger was visibly drunk / high or rude, she kinda had to go with him. I guess this behaviour is difficult to verify unless the mongers report it to the front desk.

Paulie97
02-15-21, 22:21
It's different with shoe troll, it's a consequence of his coprolalia, coupled with his far right wing tendencies. The poor bloke is so fucked up that he can't control anything.The biggest thing he can't control is the fact that he isn't an American, though he pretended to be one here for a long time, acting as if he had some say in our politics while dingleberry farming up Trump's butt. Yet he's stuck in his basement in Sweden. We don't want him.

Sirioja
02-15-21, 22:47
Yeah, I don't lie to myself. Probably the most important value.Ask all your FKK or forum friends here, do you know them for real? Did you ever see their look? If they ever heard same stories than pathetic at Sharks or LR, about me? Even from very angry girls? I'm pretty sure one would have been proud if I returned with her, even she was the busiest, but I never felt again the magic I need to enjoy sex. I know you had a FKK friend and how is it now? Really not the place for friends and I'm so sure about this. Also better to find a normal woman to build something good like a baby.

Sirioja
02-15-21, 23:02
Germany now thinking to close border with cousin Austria. If Bavarian become after Angela, not sure he will be good for brothels.

Mursenary
02-16-21, 00:47
Exchanging opinions here, if you tell me you prefer small blond and I prefer tall brunette, is no problem and can even be interesting to have different opinions,

I try to stay polite as I was at LR, even giving advice, when I never ask for advice about girls, I'm able to choose on my own.

I don't go to find friends, even too many guys need to come to talk to me and even except with few French and a German.How absurd. First states that exchanging opinions on the forum is okay but then criticizes someone for asking about their opinion when actually inside a club where you can actually see and point out the girls. The disconnect in thought process is glaring.

Another strange behavior is for someone who thinks he is above others, who advocates against making friendships in sex clubs, is to wait in the locker room 15 minutes after the club is closed, already fully dressed in street clothes, waiting for another monger to finish the last room of the night in order to chat with the monger about the room with a WG he "refused."

Recap: states that making friends in sex clubs is gay, states he did not want to go to a room with a WG at GT, intentionally waits in GT locker room after the club is closed to check if a monger had a good room with a WG he refused. Obsession with the WG or the monger, I'm not sure. Maybe you just have a Cuckhold fetish?

Mursenary
02-16-21, 03:10
Ask all your FKK or forum friends here, do you know them for real? Did you ever see their look? If they ever heard same stories than pathetic at Sharks or LR, about me? Even from very angry girls? I'm pretty sure one would have been proud if I returned with her, even she was the busiest, but I never felt again the magic I need to enjoy sex. I know you had a FKK friend and how is it now? Really not the place for friends and I'm so sure about this. Also better to find a normal woman to build something good like a baby.I did. I've met quite a few. They all think you're annoying ass fuck.

BigBuddy69
02-16-21, 07:55
The biggest thing he can't control is the fact that he isn't an American, though he pretended to be one here for a long time, acting as if he had some say in our politics while dingleberry farming up Trump's butt. Yet he's stuck in his basement in Sweden. We don't want him.This is really not polite to decline a gift. Take it as a present from the European union. We're sending you a few samples.

BigBuddy69
02-16-21, 10:11
Is it a sign of politeness when you constantly badmouth young women, saying that they're ready to be fucked by anyone for money, that they're not normal women, that some of them are ugly GND you wouldn't fuck for free, saying that they're not nobel awards, that they didn't worked enough in school, and so on?

And when you do the same thing with the other guys (old fat hairy ugly monkeys) , and with the management (they didn't let me play with the remote control)?

I thought it was a sign of complete rudeness, disrespect and an obvious lack of education.

And of course if you do it only on the internet and in an obsessive way, mumbling about things that happened 3 years ago or more, it's a sign of cowardice and of a deeply troubled mind.

PaulInZurich
02-16-21, 11:00
She didn't say how frequently she could reject, but she was comparing the policy at Globe with her previous club in Germany and she said that, while in the German club she could reject guys as much as she wanted, in Globe this isn't really possible. Unless the monger was visibly drunk / high or rude, she kinda had to go with him. I guess this behaviour is difficult to verify unless the mongers report it to the front desk.Yes it's tough for new girls. They have to avoid reclamations. There used to be guys who would try to use this to their advantage, either to put pressure on girls or trying to get a free entrance when complaining at the reception.

Established girls are protected by Globe management, up to mongers getting banned.

I wonder how things will be once the FKKs really reopen, let's say after most people are vaccinated.

HammerTime96
02-16-21, 14:40
Here we go again. Look no one knows for now, it's still a waiting game.

At least Germany has decided some targets to open up when the number of cases drop, it looks as if when cases drop to 35 per 100,000 then they will start to open schools, then if the cases don't rise after two weeks then the distancing rules will be relaxed. After another two weeks if the cases are still below that number then restaurants and hotels, group sports will be allowed. That's all that has been said so far. Look at Easter as the earliest possible date but don't count on it and certainly don't book a trip.Well don't forget that there is a lot of political pressure in Germany to continuously lower those "targets" (the so-called "Inzidenzwert" I. E. The "Incident value" of infections per 100 k inhabitants over the past 7 days) in Germany. Initially it was 50 infections per 100 k, and now they have moved to goalpost to 35 infections per 100 k.

An example is Karl Lauterbach from the German Socialist party, advocating for an "unlimited lockdown:" https://www.sueddeutsche.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-rki-1.5158990.

Lauterbach also wants to lower the Inzidenzwert to "below 25" : https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-impfungen-lockdown-lauterbach-100.html.

With these continuously moving goalposts which make it more difficult to relax the lockdown, and the complete lack (read: chaos) of a credible vaccinating time table in Germany, I wouldn't be too certain that German FKK clubs will open this year.

The German brainwashing media is already preparing the public for "mutations," a 'lack of efficacy of the vaccine against these mutations,' and a "3rd wave" in the autumn.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but my prediction is that by February 2022, we'll be in more or less the EXACT same situation as we are this year simply because Corona viruses always mutate, and the "vaccine" is a complete joke that has been thrown together in a few months without enough testing. Some bars, gyms and restaurants might open in the summer of this year, but forget about FKK clubs. Even if some clubs are allowed to reopen, line-up will be extremely poor and there will be ridiculous rules about having to wear face diapers and social distancing in a brothel! / sarc.

P.S. So far my predictions have been reasonably good; I predicted last year that the re-openings during summer 2020 would be very short-lived, and I predicted that the "vaccine strategy" would be a complete mess with mutations destroying it's efficacy. The long term side effects of those mRNA "vaccines" are anyone's guess because they skipped the long term tests and the politicians went for an emergency rollout.

Ursula von der Leyen (another German, and another Angela Merkel protege) has finally admitted that the Covid vaccine rollout is a complete mess: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/10/ursula-von-der-leyen-admits-errors-in-eu-covid-vaccine-rollout.

HammerTime96
02-16-21, 17:39
How absurd. First states that exchanging opinions on the forum is okay but then criticizes someone for asking about their opinion when actually inside a club where you can actually see and point out the girls. The disconnect in thought process is glaring.

Another strange behavior is for someone who thinks he is above others, who advocates against making friendships in sex clubs, is to wait in the locker room 15 minutes after the club is closed, already fully dressed in street clothes, waiting for another monger to finish the last room of the night in order to chat with the monger about the room with a WG he "refused."

Recap: states that making friends in sex clubs is gay, states he did not want to go to a room with a WG at GT, intentionally waits in GT locker room after the club is closed to check if a monger had a good room with a WG he refused. Obsession with the WG or the monger, I'm not sure. Maybe you just have a Cuckhold fetish?Ha! We finally agree on something! LOL!

When you carefully read, or better, managed somehow to decipher his posts, he actually writes very little actually useful information, because that's how creepy and possessive stalkers operate. He thinks that he is some sort of a Cassanova, and all other customers and forum users are unworthy of 'his' girls.

About 4-5 years ago, I met a very nice Asian-American customer, ended up chatting with him for a while in Sharks (it was a very busy weekend with long waiting times, so we decided to take a break and chat about the WGs) and at one point he introduced me to the French clown whom he knew. And yes, he was hovering around near the entrance area in front of the staircase.

I remember a forum member by the name of Hessen Bub, who also looked straight through the complete bullshit stories of the French "mountain climber," his phantasy stories of driving 'his Porsche (read: some crappy mediocre French car) with 200 km / h on the German Autobahn,' and other James Bond 'extraordinaire' adventures.

Mursenary
02-16-21, 18:09
Actually I've had around 75 posts in the last four weeks, 100 in the last five weeks. You can't even get simple facts right. If you had any self awareness you'd have realized that you're a stupid.

Anyways, so you're saying that you needed two weeks less than me to reach over a hundred posts. It's rather pathetic that you have to resort to whataboutism. What don't you just get a life instead?Don't you understand the term, whataboutism. Try again.

Mursenary
02-16-21, 19:19
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but my prediction is that by February 2022, we'll be in more or less the EXACT same situation as we are this year simply because Corona viruses always mutate, and the "vaccine" is a complete joke that has been thrown together in a few months without enough testing. Some bars, gyms and restaurants might open in the summer of this year, but forget about FKK clubs. Even if some clubs are allowed to reopen, line-up will be extremely poor and there will be ridiculous rules about having to wear face diapers and social distancing in a brothel! / sarc.Saving post and prediction for time capsule safekeeping.

Along similar lines, cases in Germany down to October levels and deaths down to Pre-Christmas levels despite vaccine naysayers reaching with scary mutant talks.

ShooBree
02-16-21, 19:47
Don't you understand the term, whataboutism. Try again.Why don't you admit that you were wrong about me having 100 posts in the last four weeks?

Unlike you I actually know what whataboutism is.

You're wrong all the time.

ShooBree
02-16-21, 19:56
This is really not polite to decline a gift. Take it as a present from the European union. We're sending you a few samples.You could start with returning the money you stole from me and other taxpayers in Sweden.

Clodius1
02-16-21, 20:13
Saving post and prediction for time capsule safekeeping.

Along similar lines, cases in Germany down to October levels and deaths down to Pre-Christmas levels despite vaccine naysayers reaching with scary mutant talks.I cannot say what is going to happen in Deutschland this year and next. Actually, I cannot say what's going to happen anywhere for that matter. BUT. My guess is that American mongers will be ready to board das flugzeug to hop across the pond by das Oktoberfest. What is my reasoning? A convergence of vaccines and herd immunity. The American schools are finally starting to send their kids back into the classrooms, vaccine or not. What do you think is going to happen to all those parents? They are going to get the virus and not bother to get tested or report anything. Meanwhile, 65+ grandma and grandpa are all getting the vaccine. Mongers are dripping in geld here and itching to spend it in FKK. So das ist mein prediction: probably not even worth two cents LOL. Prost!

Mursenary
02-16-21, 20:38
Why don't you admit that you were wrong about me having 100 posts in the last four weeks?

Unlike you I actually know what whataboutism is.

You're wrong all the time.Yes if you want to measure your self worth with posts counts I guess you're free to do so. 100 posts in 33 days versus 28 days, I suppose I was wrong. Is that really the sword you're going to fall on? Strange and trivial indeed.

BigBuddy69
02-16-21, 22:22
Don't you understand the term, whataboutism. Try again.Yes you're totally wrong. He had 100 posts in 4 weeks and 5 days. The 5 days make all the difference.

Sirioja
02-16-21, 23:16
How absurd. First states that exchanging opinions on the forum is okay but then criticizes someone for asking about their opinion when actually inside a club where you can actually see and point out the girls. The disconnect in thought process is glaring.

Another strange behavior is for someone who thinks he is above others, who advocates against making friendships in sex clubs, is to wait in the locker room 15 minutes after the club is closed, already fully dressed in street clothes, waiting for another monger to finish the last room of the night in order to chat with the monger about the room with a WG he "refused."

Recap: states that making friends in sex clubs is gay, states he did not want to go to a room with a WG at GT, intentionally waits in GT locker room after the club is closed to check if a monger had a good room with a WG he refused. Obsession with the WG or the monger, I'm not sure. Maybe you just have a Cuckhold fetish?When she went to me on 3 times on this evening, when I didn't want to go with her even she behave lovely, when I saw you waiting for hours for her, in couch close to entry, so I just wanted to know if your long waiting did worth for you, when you told me on previous night when we met on first time, your now French bald friend here girl was disappointment, but I agree with you, my mistake to care if you had better time than on previous night, I wish I didn't scare you too much at 2 am, at least I know she was not scared about me when she returned to me later at Velbert or Gold, and just confirm for me, according to our French expression: better to stay single than with bad companionship, and very adapted to brothels in my opinion. I m only interested, when I drive from far, by girls, I even advice guys to avoid a bad guy like me.

Sirioja
02-16-21, 23:37
Ha! We finally agree on something! LOL!

When you carefully read, or better, managed somehow to decipher his posts, he actually writes very little actually useful information, because that's how creepy and possessive stalkers operate. He thinks that he is some sort of a Cassanova, and all other customers and forum users are unworthy of 'his' girls.

About 4-5 years ago, I met a very nice Asian-American customer, ended up chatting with him for a while in Sharks (it was a very busy weekend with long waiting times, so we decided to take a break and chat about the WGs) and at one point he introduced me to the French clown whom he knew. And yes, he was hovering around near the entrance area in front of the staircase.

I remember a forum member by the name of Hessen Bub, who also looked straight through the complete bullshit stories of the French "mountain climber," his phantasy stories of driving 'his Porsche (read: some crappy mediocre French car) with 200 km / h on the German Autobahn,' and other James Bond 'extraordinaire' adventures.I remember HB also on lustcout, who needed to ask the clown about Hessen legend Katalina, when clown never needed to ask him about any girl, even he is German. Unfortunately, can't have Neo 66 or bicycle in 911 turbo 4's, but clown loves so much to clean German autobahns with his crappy German Audi with skis and bicycle inside, and with red nose Audi, cars usually move fast to right line when seeing arriving fast in back, much faster than only 200, when 200 is only 4000 tours per minute for engine, to see passing the clown. I miss to push to grip limit and better to have a compact and not too heavy car, just matter of dynamic versus inerty, in Germany, even nothing for sensations compare to going downhill on bicycle at 70 km / h, or downhill on skis close to 100 km / h.

Sirioja
02-17-21, 00:03
Saving post and prediction for time capsule safekeeping.

Along similar lines, cases in Germany down to October levels and deaths down to Pre-Christmas levels despite vaccine naysayers reaching with scary mutant talks.Figures in Germany make them thinking to close border with cousin Austria which is the closest for culture to Germany, or thinking to buy Sputnik when EU don't allow sputnik, so, must not be so good figures in Germany according to Germans who decide there, when under very strict lockdown with schools closed since 2 months. I think Germans are those who know the most how to protect their safety and we see their decisions inside EU.

Sirioja
02-17-21, 00:09
Yes it's tough for new girls. They have to avoid reclamations. There used to be guys who would try to use this to their advantage, either to put pressure on girls or trying to get a free entrance when complaining at the reception.

Established girls are protected by Globe management, up to mongers getting banned.

I wonder how things will be once the FKKs really reopen, let's say after most people are vaccinated.I knew many girls arriving from Germany to Globe which don't seem so difficult for them when they get business, then usually, they will stay at Globe, like Megan since April 2017 . Globe seem difficult for girls when they don't get much business.

ShooBree
02-17-21, 07:42
Yes you're totally wrong. He had 100 posts in 4 weeks and 5 days. The 5 days make all the difference.I've noticed that you don't care much about facts, it's like when you claimed that Sweden had a lockdown because the museums were closed. LMFAO.

ShooBree
02-17-21, 07:48
Yes if you want to measure your self worth with posts counts I guess you're free to do so. 100 posts in 33 days versus 28 days, I suppose I was wrong. Is that really the sword you're going to fall on? Strange and trivial indeed.You're wrong and I'm right. I'm curious as to why you lied / couldn't get such a simple fact right from the beginning. Really strange that you brought it up if you consider it to be so "trivial". Why can't you just be honest and stop it with the lies and dishonesty?

I caught you in a lie, you should apologize and admit that you're either incompetent or a liar. Or both.

Mursenary
02-17-21, 08:37
When she went to me on 3 times on this evening, when I didn't want to go with her even she behave lovely, when I saw you waiting for hours for her, in couch close to entry, so I just wanted to know if your long waiting did worth for you, when you told me on previous night when we met on first time, your now French bald friend here girl was disappointment, but I agree with you, my mistake to care if you had better time than on previous night, I wish I didn't scare you too much at 2 am, at least I know she was not scared about me when she returned to me later at Velbert or Gold, and just confirm for me, according to our French expression: better to stay single than with bad companionship, and very adapted to brothels in my opinion. I m only interested, when I drive from far, by girls, I even advice guys to avoid a bad guy like me.Aww how sweet. You cared about me, flattered. It's creepy and stalkerish but flattered.

As for the girl, she's a hooker. She came back to everyone dummy. Yes even to me and to hundreds of other guys at Aca and Gold. She even went back to suck face in public with a 125 kg German Acapulco regular everyday. Strange to feel special for this universal hooker behavior.

HammerTime96
02-17-21, 08:41
Saving post and prediction for time capsule safekeeping.

Along similar lines, cases in Germany down to October levels and deaths down to Pre-Christmas levels despite vaccine naysayers reaching with scary mutant talks.Do you speak German? Do you live in Europe? Can you actually read & understand what's being written and said in German papers and TV shows?

So why don't you make a 'time capsule' posting and stick your neck out? What's your prediction? Give us some hard numbers. Clubs open by the time the Oktoberfest starts (which is in mid September by the way, LOL) as Clodius1 is hoping for?


I cannot say what is going to happen in Deutschland this year and next. Actually, I cannot say what's going to happen anywhere for that matter. BUT. My guess is that American mongers will be ready to board das flugzeug to hop across the pond by das Oktoberfest. What is my reasoning? A convergence of vaccines and herd immunity. The American schools are finally starting to send their kids back into the classrooms, vaccine or not. What do you think is going to happen to all those parents? They are going to get the virus and not bother to get tested or report anything. Meanwhile, 65+ grandma and grandpa are all getting the vaccine. Mongers are dripping in geld here and itching to spend it in FKK. So das ist mein prediction: probably not even worth two cents LOL. Prost!

Mursenary
02-17-21, 09:55
Figures in Germany make them thinking to close border with cousin Austria which is the closest for culture to Germany, or thinking to buy Sputnik when EU don't allow sputnik, so, must not be so good figures in Germany according to Germans who decide there, when under very strict lockdown with schools closed since 2 months. I think Germans are those who know the most how to protect their safety and we see their decisions inside EU.You keep focusing on the maybe's and possibles. German public officials and their policies don't change the universal principles of math. And the math says Coronavirus case numbers and deaths in Germany peaked many weeks ago and are declining rapidly. Same with most of the rest of the world.

BigBuddy69
02-17-21, 14:46
Aww how sweet. You cared about me, flattered. It's creepy and stalkerish but flattered.Did you take the opportunity to make a quick dick contest under the shower?

And well, correct me if I'm wrong, but you banged the little Andrea?

Mursenary
02-17-21, 15:31
Do you speak German? Do you live in Europe? Can you actually read & understand what's being written and said in German papers and TV shows?

So why don't you make a 'time capsule' posting and stick your neck out? What's your prediction? Give us some hard numbers. Clubs open by the time the Oktoberfest starts (which is in mid September by the way, LOL) as Clodius1 is hoping for?I don't live in Germany and I don't speak fluent German but can understand enough. Most time spent in Germany was 6 months in a given year. Do you live in Germany? Is your Deutsch fluent? What does it matter?

You seem to tend to take a little bit of information that may even have a bit of truth but extrapolate it without considering all parameters, variables, and wildcards. Simply put, it's speaking out of your ass.

On the other hand, why would I make a prediction for something that has so many variables? I can admit that I don't have all of the information to predict what governments will do 3 months out. My professional knowledge base is molecular biology, public health, and medicine, not government, political science, or economics.

As such, I can only professionally speak to the clinical science and say that numbers are down, vaccines have been tested with the same rigor as other medications, and that the social calendar does not present another Christmas-like gathering event in the near future. The opportunities for spread is limited compared to other parts of the year. Vaccines, even with poor national rollouts, will only reduce hospitalizations and the risk of a super mutation rendering vaccines completely ineffective is miniscule. As such, to say that we will be in the same exact situation in a year does not compute or make logical sense given the facts.

In short, I wouldn't be so stupid as to make such a prediction for 2022 when so many things are in flux. My instincts and educated guess however leads me to believe that you are terribly wrong in thinking that the SARS-COV2 situation will be the same one year from now, hence the time capsule.

Mursenary
02-17-21, 15:47
Did you take the opportunity to make a quick dick contest under the shower?

And well, correct me if I'm wrong, but you banged the little Andrea?It was even more strange, the hobbit was already fully dressed waiting around for me in the locker room. I remember paying the WG with him staring at us. She gave an uncomfortable look and a few days later asked me if I knew him and why he was awkwardly staring. But who knows what goes on in the mind of a cuckhold.

I dunno, can't recall a specific Andrea at LR or GT. I've never had a terrible room at either place. Worst rooms at either were when girls were too fake with the acting or the one girl who tried to cheat on time.

Mursenary
02-17-21, 15:59
Yes you're totally wrong. He had 100 posts in 4 weeks and 5 days. The 5 days make all the difference.Yah. I sense a "little brother" syndrome. For all of the personalities, at least the hobbit doesn't brings some boots on the ground info, albeit you have to sift through the pages of self grandeur. This other one, absolutely useless.

ShooBree
02-17-21, 20:09
Yah. I sense a "little brother" syndrome. For all of the personalities, at least the hobbit doesn't brings some boots on the ground info, albeit you have to sift through the pages of self grandeur. This other one, absolutely useless.All your posts are absolutely worthless and irrelevant to the topic of this website. My suggestion would be that you either get a life or actually start posting about the topic of this website.

You're a good example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Not only do you lack intelligence, you also lack self awareness.

HammerTime96
02-17-21, 20:24
I don't live in Germany and I don't speak fluent German but can understand enough. Most time spent in Germany was 6 months in a given year. Do you live in Germany? Is your Deutsch fluent? What does it matter?It matters because it gives you a perspective of how things are developing 'on the ground' in Europe and Germany.

Seems like you're stuck in your own little academic and medical world, but you seem to have very little concept about the political and economical games that are being played on a much higher level than your little laboratory.

Sirioja
02-17-21, 22:27
It was even more strange, the hobbit was already fully dressed waiting around for me in the locker room. I remember paying the WG with him staring at us. She gave an uncomfortable look and a few days later asked me if I knew him and why he was awkwardly staring. But who knows what goes on in the mind of a cuckhold.

I dunno, can't recall a specific Andrea at LR or GT. I've never had a terrible room at either place. Worst rooms at either were when girls were too fake with the acting or the one girl who tried to cheat on time.You are real US for paranoia, I was not interested how much you paid her. Not Andrea who asked me 10 times per week if I wanted to go with her and as I am too polite when answering, she didn't understand I would never pay for her, but many towels to go to room, not safe Bob Marley daughter Issa for who one fell for risky, entertaining story at LR.

Sirioja
02-17-21, 22:40
You keep focusing on the maybe's and possibles. German public officials and their policies don't change the universal principles of math. And the math says Coronavirus case numbers and deaths in Germany peaked many weeks ago and are declining rapidly. Same with most of the rest of the world.But do you know UK brought their mutant in Switzerland when they went to ski for Christmas and Sylvester, meeting other nationalities and then UK mutant spread now in Switzerland neighbours. Now also south African in south Tirol Austria or France close to German border and even new Nigerian one now arriving, when EU medical is waiting for mutants high peak on March, when our second vaccine AZ is not efficient versus mutants. Do all your figures posted here know about this, when EU medical worry and they should know better than you about EU. Wish at least you know a bit about US. 4 mutants are now in western Europe.

Sirioja
02-17-21, 22:53
Aww how sweet. You cared about me, flattered. It's creepy and stalkerish but flattered.

As for the girl, she's a hooker. She came back to everyone dummy. Yes even to me and to hundreds of other guys at Aca and Gold. She even went back to suck face in public with a 125 kg German Acapulco regular everyday. Strange to feel special for this universal hooker behavior.Maybe I felt guilty you didn't enjoy my previous night advice at LR, when your French friend was so crazy about her. Did she take 5 towels with you and proposed you: I can do everything for you? But really everything, but I prefer risk when free riding, less dangerous for me, and she was really not pretty enough for my desire. At LR, when some Germans were waiting, but my best student for sex always came to the same not German, and sometimes even delaying bigger money or appointments. She must had a reason to choose like this every week for months.

Mursenary
02-17-21, 23:57
All your posts are absolutely worthless and irrelevant to the topic of this website. My suggestion would be that you either get a life or actually start posting about the topic of this website.

You're a good example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Not only do you lack intelligence, you also lack self awareness.Well, I sifted through your first 25 posts and didn't see much hooker talk there either.

More importantly after reading some of those posts though, you're a mean little dude, amigo. Like, for no reason. So angry. It's a little scary actually.

Oh, I feel like you've used that the-K line like 3 times already. Some fresh material would be more entertaining. Reruns get boring. Please and thank you. Kisses.

Mursenary
02-18-21, 00:11
It matters because it gives you a perspective of how things are developing 'on the ground' in Europe and Germany.

Seems like you're stuck in your own little academic and medical world, but you seem to have very little concept about the political and economical games that are being played on a much higher level than your little laboratory.Yeah, hence why I said there's too many variables to make an asinine prediction into 2022 as if anyone alive has any experience with the current world situation whatsoever.

But yeah, I wouldn't know what it's like in Germany at the moment. But do you? Have you been there yourself lately?

Mursenary
02-18-21, 00:11
Maybe I felt guilty you didn't enjoy my previous night advice at LR, when your French friend was so crazy about her. Did she take 5 towels with you and proposed you: I can do everything for you? But really everything, but I prefer risk when free riding, less dangerous for me, and she was really not pretty enough for my desire. At LR, when some Germans were waiting, but my best student for sex always came to the same not German, and sometimes even delaying bigger money or appointments. She must had a reason to choose like this every week for months.Oh my god stop crying already.

BigBuddy69
02-18-21, 07:33
Oh, I feel like you've used that the-K line like 3 times already. Some fresh material would be more entertaining. Reruns get boring. Please and thank you. Kisses.Oh no really more than that. You can add a zero after the 3. Use the search engine if you're in for some counting action.

BigBuddy69
02-18-21, 09:15
Oh my god stop crying already.Let's face it you're jealous because you don't have a mighty Caucasian tool which is the center of attention when you're under the shower and you have this big Bush, so big that the girls have to take some toilet paper with a hole.

Me too I had a girl who was mesmerized by the power of my love spear made of flesh and blood. It was this tall brunette who started in LR around Christmas 2016. Fair skin, black hair, red lipstick, just a little tattoo near her collarbone, she had this kind of aura like she was some glamourous movie star from the 50's like Ava Gardner (minus the sexy velvet dress) or like the first woman walking the earth, you know the GF of Adam wink wink!

She was already popular at the time, because of her looks, her nice attitude and her freshness but I managed to make 2 sessions with her on this day. The sex was rather good but not great, she didn't really know how to play with a gigantic sledgehammer like mine and BJ and HJ could be a little painful. But still I had a good time.

So I came back one month later a Saturday or a Friday I think and she was getting even more popular. I couldn't get her for a while so I spent some time with other girls but later in the evening I saw her apparently free, just walking in the corridor and kissing Hello, some kind of strange halfling (even without the heels the guy was probably 10 cm shorter than her). So I tried my luck and caught her up in the famous LR stair.

I played some comedy and looked at her with my famous kitten eyes: "Oh you've been so busy today and I didn't have the chance to see you."

She - "Yes but you see this guy, he comes only for me every weekend from far away (the city with the big iron tower)."

Me - "Pleeeeease, I haven't seen you for a while and I'd like to see you again."

She - "Go wait for me downstairs on the couch (the famous LR couch close to the spa)."

And 5 minutes later, she was here! I don't know what she told to her lovesick puppy admirer, but she had no problems sending him to wait in the garden while she was playing with my thick pleasure piston. During 1 h30 actually. And I hope that she washed enough after because I rubbed it everywhere on her, maybe the puppy did enjoy how I taste?

Anyway, after my shower, I got to the restaurant before leaving and guess who were here? My girl and her vertically reduced Casanova! The guy was acting as if he was taking her to an high end restaurant. Like "please my dear, would you enjoy those delicious bami slices with pommes? They come straight from the freezer."

Anyway, good things come to an end because she lost her freshness and her friendly attitude rather quick. One year later she was acting like some posh princess, She got thicker, her skin got darker, actually she was becoming a little like badass Jane, the girl who kicks creeps out of the club. I always wondered if the puppy played a role in all of that. If enough customers act really servile with a girl, she can realize that there is a lot of money to be done without working too much by controlling the wallet of her money slaves.

ShooBree
02-18-21, 16:02
Well, I sifted through your first 25 posts and didn't see much hooker talk there either.

More importantly after reading some of those posts though, you're a mean little dude, amigo. Like, for no reason. So angry. It's a little scary actually.

Oh, I feel like you've used that the-K line like 3 times already. Some fresh material would be more entertaining. Reruns get boring. Please and thank you. Kisses.Hilarious, why don't you call 911 if you're so scared? Pathetic.

It's interesting to see how much time trolls like you have to spend writing up all sorts of irrelevant nonsense and derogatory comments against members who actually contributes with relevant information to this site.

I tell you the same thing as you told Sirioja: Stop crying.

Mursenary
02-18-21, 18:17
Hilarious, why don't you call 911 if you're so scared? Pathetic.

It's interesting to see how much time trolls like you have to spend writing up all sorts of irrelevant nonsense and derogatory comments against members who actually contributes with relevant information to this site.

I tell you the same thing as you told Sirioja: Stop crying.Where's your contribution? Still looking. I'll wait.

Mursenary
02-18-21, 18:20
Oh no really more than that. You can add a zero after the 3. Use the search engine if you're in for some counting action.One trick pony that guy. Not even a simple pun in any of his posts for entertainment value.

Mursenary
02-18-21, 19:13
Obviously an opening date for Sharks or any FKK is purely down to speculation at this early stage.

However anyone who lives in Germany who can give relative updates on the Corona / lockdown situation over there are always appreciated as any first steps towards normality can only bring the reopening of these venues a step closer.

Living in the UK the return of regular flights without quarantine to Germany or indeed to anywhere is a few months away and only then could I turn my attention to returning to watching dozens of naked women vying for my body. Or more specifically my wallet!Not going to get much first hand info about the situation in Germany right now on this forum. Not many German residents posting here right now. I only know one currently active poster who lives there. Perhaps that poster can shed some light. It sounds like the biggest restraint is the 15 km leash that people have.

A female friend in Bavaria says that border restrictions with Czech and Western Austria are due to rising case numbers in Eastern Europe and some fears of the be. 1. 1. 7 variant that is more prevalent in that region. As of now, current restrictions were extended until 7. March. Their safe threshold is 35 cases per 100,000 people per week. Their current weekly incidence rate is around 65 cases per 100 K per week. Basically that's about 7000 total cases per day when they need to get to about 4000 total cases per day. Hopefully the trend of decreasing cases continues and they start easing restrictions.

My personal opinion is that the best case scenario is some clubs opening in May but that's likely too optimistic. But with vaccines distribution surely to improve, it's hard to see a situation where German society isn't mostly open by the end of the summer. Opening venues such as sex clubs obviously has the highest threshold so it is more difficult to predict.

Mursenary
02-18-21, 19:50
The role of variants in extending the pandemic cannot be determined with complete certainty but we can make some reasonable educated guesses on how things will play out. All variants so far have been identified prior to the Christmas surge with some having been identified as early as last summer. The most notable ones were found to be circulating in greatest numbers prior to Christmas. But despite that, the case incidence has spiked and has since come back down. And the mutations apparently just made them more transmissible but has not proven to show a higher mortality.

Looking at the major variants and their regions of origin (UK, South Africa, Brazil, Japan, California), those areas seem to have seen a peak after Christmas and the incidence has since come down. Brazil is the only place where the decreases have not been drastic. But Brazil has been known to have enforced very little regulations.

Things may change and a "super mutant" that is capable of escaping recognition by the immune response elicited by all major vaccines is possible but the chances are small.

ShooBree
02-18-21, 21:18
Where's your contribution? Still looking. I'll wait.Aren't you the person who had to create a new account to be able to continue trolling this forum? Pathetic.

It's hilarious to see that coming from you considering the fact that all your posts are irrelevant nonsense. I've contributed with my fair share to this website but given the large number trolls like you I have no longer any reason nor desire to share my wealth of information.

Congratulations on ruining this forum by constantly posting derogatory comments and irrelevant gibberish.

ShooBree
02-18-21, 21:22
One trick pony that guy. Not even a simple pun in any of his posts for entertainment value.It's still true.

Every post you write is a reminder of your stupidity and arrogance.

So you think that your posts are witty? Sorry to disappointed you, but your posts aren't funny.

ShooBree
02-18-21, 21:24
Oh no really more than that. You can add a zero after the 3. Use the search engine if you're in for some counting action.I love how you're still obsessing over me because I called you out for lying about Sweden having a lockdown. Such a fragile and stupid little boy you're.

Mursenary
02-19-21, 04:18
Aren't you the person who had to create a new account to be able to continue trolling this forum? Pathetic.

It's hilarious to see that coming from you considering the fact that all your posts are irrelevant nonsense. I've contributed with my fair share to this website but given the large number trolls like you I have no longer any reason nor desire to share my wealth of information.

Congratulations on ruining this forum by constantly posting derogatory comments and irrelevant gibberish.Where's this contribution? We'll all keep waiting. And waiting. And waiting.

Mursenary
02-19-21, 05:21
Ok- I am german resident. No 15 km-radius restrictions for most of us. While some things are opening (e. G. Schools) - this opening is likely only temporary. Consensus is that there is a 3rd wave of the british mutant piling up. Numbers just start to increase yet again and since our politician are very slow, it will be likely severe. Vaccination effort is immensely slow, BTW in relative percentage points we are lagging behind UK, US etc tremendously.

If I had to guess, there won't be an re-opening of amusement parks, nightclubs and FKK land before May 1. Maybe June 1 if we are lucky. My bets is currently on Aug 1.My friends in Bayern and Stuttgart say that the radius restriction is in place where they live. It appears that it varies from one Bundesland to another. Article below states that not all states are enforcing the rule, or perhaps you live in an area with low case numbers, Hamburg?

https://www.thelocal.de/20210111/15km-rule-which-areas-of-germany-are-affected-by-new-movement-restrictions

Consensus? Media, political, or medical consensus? Medical majority is a bit more optimistic regarding variants.

Are you sure about the numbers going up? Most published sources say the opposite:

https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/de/

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/germany?country=~DEU

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/

Somewhat concerning is that this week's numbers did not show a rapid decline when compared to recent weeks, but rather plateau'the from last week. Either an increase is on the horizon or we are witnessing a baseline level of spread given the current moderate restrictions.

Attached regional map shows the highest number of cases in Saxony and Bayern (because of proximity to the Czech border). My suspicion is that all of the stress is due to Germany's greatest concern now being the "Eastern Front. " History must think she's being funny.

I agree with your estimates regarding reopening dates. Hoping for May, betting on August.

Canary
02-19-21, 10:33
Not going to get much first hand info about the situation in Germany right now on this forum. Not many German residents posting here right now. I only know one currently active poster who lives there. Perhaps that poster can shed some light.I knew there were plenty of posters on this site outside Germany but I didn't realize how few German residents report on here. I have a German friend who gives me updates every so often & a SP keeps in touch on What'App but she has little info. Most of my info on what's happening in Germany from another sex website & via the reputable world news organisations.


Ok- I am german resident. No 15 km-radius restrictions for most of us. While some things are opening (e. G. Schools) - this opening is likely only temporary. Consensus is that there is a 3rd wave of the british mutant piling up. Numbers just start to increase yet again and since our politician are very slow, it will be likely severe. Vaccination effort is immensely slow, BTW in relative percentage points we are lagging behind UK, US etc tremendously.

If I had to guess, there won't be an re-opening of amusement parks, nightclubs and FKK land before May 1. Maybe June 1 if we are lucky. My bets is currently on Aug 1.I greatly appreciate the update from the German prospective.

I live in the UK which has been hit badly by the virus but the situation in the UK is improving rapidly every day. For some reason I always assume the German authorities are more in control and better organised than the UK and when things are improving in the UK I automatically assume Germany's situation is improving too. It appears I was wrong!

The British wave isn't as bad as some report, all the vaccines currently prevent serious illness, hospitalisations & death with this & other variants although it doesn't guarantee prevention from mild illness with some other mutations.

If the British variant was that bad the UK figures wouldn't be reducing very quickly in transmissions, hospitalisations and deaths.

Our Idiot Prime Minister Johnson is announcing on Monday the "road map back to normality" although foreign trips are not on the agenda yet it is being talked about how travel will recommence as 17 million Brits have already had their first vaccination, (having mine tomorrow!

As you correctly say FKK land will be way down the list of venues to reopen but I always appreciate the latest news in Germany as any positive news is a small step forward to their reopening so thank you for posting.

Personally I hope there will be some of the summer left to visit Sharks, Oase etc.

HammerTime96
02-19-21, 10:54
Not going to get much first hand info about the situation in Germany right now on this forum. Not many German residents posting here right now. I only know one currently active poster who lives there. Perhaps that poster can shed some light. I'm regularly for work in Germany and I already explained it all to you, see my quoted post below, but you refuse to listen.


Ok- I am german resident. No 15 km-radius restrictions for most of us. While some things are opening (e. G. Schools) - this opening is likely only temporary. Consensus is that there is a 3rd wave of the british mutant piling up. Numbers just start to increase yet again and since our politician are very slow, it will be likely severe. Vaccination effort is immensely slow, BTW in relative percentage points we are lagging behind UK, US etc tremendously.

If I had to guess, there won't be an re-opening of amusement parks, nightclubs and FKK land before May 1. Maybe June 1 if we are lucky. My bets is currently on Aug 1.This is mostly what I've been saying for a long time, except for the IMHO very optimistic case of reopening on 1st August. I'm regularly in Germany and I was in Germany last week for business, and despite that both hospitalizations and "cases" are way down, the restrictions are becoming more and more absurd. PCR testing and online registration required for entering the country and staying in hotels. Most of my German friends and colleagues that I talk to are getting more and more fed up and frustrated with the incompetence of the German government, and many of them advocate to getting our freedoms back whilst protecting old and vulnerable people.

As I said, the restrictions is getting more absurd by the week, and in Berlin the police used a helicopter to chase young kids off a frozen lake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLIA5KPnB-Y or here in Bavaria where you have to wear a mask outside in the middle of a snowy forest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeAOmO-u03U.

You can't even have some snow fun outside (keeping distance of 10 meters or more in the fresh air), and yet people really believe that FKK will open this summer and you're allowed to get close to a WG, or even are allowed to lay on top of her to have sex? Dream on! Knowing the Germans, the new Merkel Stasi Regime will probably install cameras in the rooms to make sure you're both wearing your face diapers and are only fucking her doggystyle. / sarc.

Trying to read politicians and '*****nalists' is a bit like interviewing a hooker: not an exact science, and you have to trust your gut feeling and your instincts, and you have to be able to read between the lines a lot. Just like Kuni42 said: now the German media and politics are pumping the "mutations" propaganda to justify the continuing lockdowns and closures of bars, gyms, restaurants, DIY stores etc. The borders with the Czech Republic and Austria are almost like the good old DDR again, and the Bavarian president Soeder is being nicknamed SoeDolf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpt2KJ2kehE.

The way some people here blindly trust the politicians and media reminds me of naive idiots who pay hundreds of Euros for a standard 50 E fuck and suck session by a hooker who specialises in ripping off tourists with upselling. "Don't worry, just install a tracking app on your phone, get vaccinated every 3-6 months with the 'updated' Bill-Gates-Vaccine-Update, and all will be fine. Just trust us politicians, we will have a great time together. " LOL!

Here's a reminder for Mursenary, our Big Pharma and Deep State sponsored mercenary troll, LOL!


Well don't forget that there is a lot of political pressure in Germany to continuously lower those "targets" (the so-called "Inzidenzwert" I. E. The "Incident value" of infections per 100 k inhabitants over the past 7 days) in Germany. Initially it was 50 infections per 100 k, and now they have moved to goalpost to 35 infections per 100 k.

An example is Karl Lauterbach from the German Socialist party, advocating for an "unlimited lockdown:" https://www.sueddeutsche.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-rki-1.5158990.

Lauterbach also wants to lower the Inzidenzwert to "below 25" : https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-impfungen-lockdown-lauterbach-100.html.

With these continuously moving goalposts which make it more difficult to relax the lockdown, and the complete lack (read: chaos) of a credible vaccinating time table in Germany, I wouldn't be too certain that German FKK clubs will open this year.

The German brainwashing media is already preparing the public for "mutations," a 'lack of efficacy of the vaccine against these mutations,' and a "3rd wave" in the autumn.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but my prediction is that by February 2022, we'll be in more or less the EXACT same situation as we are this year simply because Corona viruses always mutate, and the "vaccine" is a complete joke that has been thrown together in a few months without enough testing. Some bars, gyms and restaurants might open in the summer of this year, but forget about FKK clubs. Even if some clubs are allowed to reopen, line-up will be extremely poor and there will be ridiculous rules about having to wear face diapers and social distancing in a brothel! / sarc.

P.S. So far my predictions have been reasonably good; I predicted last year that the re-openings during summer 2020 would be very short-lived, and I predicted that the "vaccine strategy" would be a complete mess with mutations destroying it's efficacy. The long term side effects of those mRNA "vaccines" are anyone's guess because they skipped the long term tests and the politicians went for an emergency rollout.

Ursula von der Leyen (another German, and another Angela Merkel protege) has finally admitted that the Covid vaccine rollout is a complete mess: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/10/ursula-von-der-leyen-admits-errors-in-eu-covid-vaccine-rollout.

ShooBree
02-19-21, 15:49
Where's this contribution? We'll all keep waiting. And waiting. And waiting.Are you schizophrenic, or why are you referring to yourself as "we"?

You wouldn't need to ask that question if you had bothered reading through my posts. You're just a lazy troll who never contributed with nothing to this forum.

The question you should ask yourself is when you ever posted any information of value on this site. You're just a troll creating one account after another to ruin this forum.

McAdonis
02-19-21, 19:03
https://www.thelocal.de/20210111/15km-rule-which-areas-of-germany-are-affected-by-new-movement-restrictions.Seems to change by day. Here are news sources from this week.

Relaxing in most parts of Sachsen: https://www.mdr.de/sachsen/ausgangssperren-fuenfzehn-kilometer-radius-aufgehoben-landkreise-100.html.

Pforzheim just lifted yesterday: https://bnn.de/pforzheim/pforzheim-stadt/ausgangssperre-in-pforzheim-ist-aufgehoben.

Passau lifted on Thursday, but going back to curfew starting Saturday:https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/passau-ab-samstag-wieder-ausgangssperre.

Curfew still applies in various parts of Bavaria: https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/ausgangssperre-wo-sie-in-bayern-noch-gilt.

Sirioja
02-19-21, 19:51
In Western Europe, everybody know mutants, we have 4 spreading in Europe, will be at peak on March. Our knowledge from inside.

Mursenary
02-20-21, 00:38
Are you schizophrenic, or why are you referring to yourself as "we"?

You wouldn't need to ask that question if you had bothered reading through my posts. You're just a lazy troll who never contributed with nothing to this forum.

The question you should ask yourself is when you ever posted any information of value on this site. You're just a troll creating one account after another to ruin this forum.I guess that means we'll have to keep waiting for your contribution. Kisses darling.

Mursenary
02-20-21, 03:04
Seems to change by day. Here are news sources from this week.

Relaxing in most parts of Sachsen: https://www.mdr.de/sachsen/ausgangssperren-fuenfzehn-kilometer-radius-aufgehoben-landkreise-100.html.

Pforzheim just lifted yesterday: https://bnn.de/pforzheim/pforzheim-stadt/ausgangssperre-in-pforzheim-ist-aufgehoben.

Passau lifted on Thursday, but going back to curfew starting Saturday:https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/passau-ab-samstag-wieder-ausgangssperre.

Curfew still applies in various parts of Bavaria: https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/ausgangssperre-wo-sie-in-bayern-noch-gilt.Sounds like Germany's doing a pretty good job responding to potential threats before they get out of hand while also trying not to go needlessly into complete lock down mode. It's better than what we're doing in the States. Contact tracing? It too hard of a concept for US government officials to even consider. Localized restrictions tailored to the numbers in a particular region? Apparently it's too hard for them to sift through the details and regional data. Germany is probably Western Europe's MVP at the moment, holding down that Eastern front before it gets out of hand. It helps when your head of state has a doctorate in biochemistry and actually listens to her health experts and pushes for the implementation of region appropriate measures.

On the flip, their vaccine rollout is a complete joke with less than 5% vaccinated. That's lower than the EU average. Meanwhile, UK and US are over 20% and 10 % vaccinated respectively.

Mursenary
02-20-21, 03:10
Seems to change by day. Here are news sources from this week.

Relaxing in most parts of Sachsen: https://www.mdr.de/sachsen/ausgangssperren-fuenfzehn-kilometer-radius-aufgehoben-landkreise-100.html.

Pforzheim just lifted yesterday: https://bnn.de/pforzheim/pforzheim-stadt/ausgangssperre-in-pforzheim-ist-aufgehoben.

Passau lifted on Thursday, but going back to curfew starting Saturday:https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/passau-ab-samstag-wieder-ausgangssperre.

Curfew still applies in various parts of Bavaria: https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/ausgangssperre-wo-sie-in-bayern-noch-gilt.Sounds like Germany's doing a pretty good job responding to potential threats before they get out of hand while also trying not to go needlessly into complete lock down mode. It's better than what we're doing in the States. Contact tracing? It too hard of a concept for US government officials to even consider. Localized restrictions tailored to the numbers in a particular region? Apparently it's too hard for them to sift through the details and regional data. Germany is probably Western Europe's MVP at the moment, holding down that Eastern front before it gets out of hand. It helps when your head of state has a doctorate in biochemistry and actually listens to her health experts and pushes for the implementation of region appropriate measures.

On the flip, their vaccine rollout is a complete joke with less than 5% vaccinated. That's lower than the EU average. Meanwhile, UK and US are over 20% and 10 % vaccinated respectively.

ShooBree
02-20-21, 06:50
I guess that means we'll have to keep waiting for your contribution. Kisses darling.Yikes, I see that you're still suffering from schizophrenia.

You don't need to wait for anything, you just need to stop being so lazy and actually read my posts.

You on the other is a worthless troll with over 600 posts of irrelevant nonsense.

Mursenary
02-20-21, 12:05
I greatly appreciate the update from the German prospective.

I live in the UK which has been hit badly by the virus but the situation in the UK is improving rapidly every day. For some reason I always assume the German authorities are more in control and better organised than the UK and when things are improving in the UK I automatically assume Germany's situation is improving too. It appears I was wrong!

The British wave isn't as bad as some report, all the vaccines currently prevent serious illness, hospitalisations & death with this & other variants although it doesn't guarantee prevention from mild illness with some other mutations.

If the British variant was that bad the UK figures wouldn't be reducing very quickly in transmissions, hospitalisations and deaths.

Our Idiot Prime Minister Johnson is announcing on Monday the "road map back to normality" although foreign trips are not on the agenda yet it is being talked about how travel will recommence as 17 million Brits have already had their first vaccination, (having mine tomorrow!

As you correctly say FKK land will be way down the list of venues to reopen but I always appreciate the latest news in Germany as any positive news is a small step forward to their reopening so thank you for posting.

Personally I hope there will be some of the summer left to visit Sharks, Oase etc.Let's calibrate the definition of bad, good, and better.

I think we have to gauge the standards for each country. The Germans are making a big deal right now, but their threshold for action is much more strict than the UK or the US. At their peak, their case count was 25 per 100 K per day. The UK was sitting at about 90 per 100 K per day, the US at about 75. Currently the case counts are 8 per 100 K per day in Germany and 16 in the UK. Both put the US to shame as we are still sitting at 25. Worst, France and Sweden are sitting at 27 and 30 respectively. For perspective, the latter 3 countries, despite the recent improvement in numbers, are currently still seeing more cases than Germany at their peak!

That being said, the German poor vaccine rollout came as a huge surprise to me. Is it the logistics? Did they not pre-order enough doses? Are the Germans more reluctant to get vaccinated? Things I don't know. The entire EU is sitting at about 6% vaccinated with Germany not too far behind at around 5%. The UK is above 20 and the US is approaching 15%. We're currently vaccinating at 0.5% of the population per day. At that rate, the USA will be at half the population vaccinated by June. But that rate may even increase as the general public will soon be included into the list of eligible vaccines recipients and as more vaccines such as AZ and Johnson and Johnson will soon add to the total vaccine supply.

I fully endorse your observations regarding the British situations, vaccine efficacy, and effects of variants. UK was ground zero and they got through the worst of its effects. Same with South Africa. As such, I am cautiously optimistic that most western nations will control the effects of variants on potential surges. A little bump may be in the works but nothing near the magnitude of the Christmas surge. 2 steps forward with one step back is perfectly reasonable to expect as long as the trend continues to move in the right direction.

For all the rhetoric about mainstream media manipulation, it seems that people with certain agendas seem to pick and choose observations at their convenience in order to make their points. But if their predictions are right and we see the same case numbers with restrictions one year later, I'll commit to the revolution with my pitchfork and musket like they apparently would like to see.

TonyMontanaaO7
02-20-21, 13:03
I hope that this paramedic end soon, and I wish you all whom are reading this comment, that they carry a good health.

Thank you.

HammerTime96
02-20-21, 16:41
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/19/german-politicians-counter-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-scepticism-with-show-of-support


....only about 17% of doses delivered to the country have been administered so far.
According to the German disease control agency’s monitoring, 129,021 doses of a delivered 736,800 had been administered by Thursday this week.
Karl-Dieter Heller, the director of the Herzogin Elisabeth hospital in Braunschweig, told Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper that he had decided to vaccinate his staff only in smaller groups and on Fridays, after 40% of one group called in sick with flu-like symptoms after receiving their jab on a Thursday.
In south-west France, a hospital in Périgueux asked in an open letter that the AstraZeneca vaccine be replaced with shots from Moderna and BioNTech/Pfizer after 50% to 70% of injected staff experienced side-effects.https://www.fr.de/wissen/coronavirus-corona-astrazeneca-impfstoff-nebenwirkungen-vakzin-90208229.html

"Astrazeneca-Impfstoff: Mehr Nebenwirkungen als gedacht" (translation: Astrazeneca vaccine: more side effects than previously thought).

These are just the short term side effects that are immediately visible, but what might be the possible side effects in the long term? What does this (barely tested) stuff do to your body over the next 5 years? Over the next 10 years? Or 20 years?

In the meantime, Stasi Mutti Merkel has already stated that: "the pandemic will only defeated when everybody in the world has been vaccinated:" https://youtu.be/GTDIrhpJ-1Q.

So only count on society and FKK clubs to reopen again as 'soon' as 7,8 billion people have been vaccinated and no more mutations appear. Translation: probably never!

Ararat
02-20-21, 16:47
On the flip, their vaccine rollout is a complete joke with less than 5% vaccinated. That's lower than the EU average. There have been lots of news that German health care providers refuse to be vaccinated by the Astra Zeneca vaccine so that means things will go slowly until they change their minds or other vaccines are available.

I've read about the same thing from France.

Mursenary
02-20-21, 18:51
Yikes, I see that you're still suffering from schizophrenia.

You don't need to wait for anything, you just need to stop being so lazy and actually read my posts.

You on the other is a worthless troll with over 600 posts of irrelevant nonsense.I agree. I'm the worst!

Nonetheless. I looked but couldn't find anything of yours that was helpful. Perhaps you can lead us all to your "contributions."

Kissy face.

HammerTime96
02-20-21, 19:01
There have been lots of news that German health care providers refuse to be vaccinated by the Astra Zeneca vaccine so that means things will go slowly until they change their minds or other vaccines are available.

I've read about the same thing from France.It's not that some people refuse to be vaccinated.

The problem is that hospitals immediately run into staffing shortages if 40-70% of the vaccinated people call in sick for a number of days because they are suffering from side effects. See my post below yours.

It's the hospitals that are deliberately scheduling less vaccinations, in order to make sure that enough healthy (read; not vaccinated! LOL!) hospital staff is available to work.


That being said, the German poor vaccine rollout came as a huge surprise to me. Is it the logistics? Did they not pre-order enough doses? Are the Germans more reluctant to get vaccinated? Things I don't know.The German government couldn't organise a binge drinking party in a brewery, and the only way they can 'organise' something is with a massive government bureaucracy. (see: WW1 and WW2, and the DDR) Getting anything done with the German 'Behoerde' (authorities) like taxes, permits, approvals, is an extreme exercise in patience and endurance.

This Covid19 crisis has been a complete exposure of the incompetence of many governments. The initial chaos and panic in February-March last year was understandable, but one would have hoped (and guessed) that in the meantime cooler heads would have prevailed, also in Germany. But no. It's still chaos everywhere in Europe, including in Germany. Lockdowns, masks, no masks, closed borders, 15 km travel restrictions, online registrations for border crossings, quarantines, PCR test chaos, contact tracing, it's all one big chaos with no end in sight.

For the last 15-20 years I've been regularly in Germany by car, and when I return to a certain area, city or Autobahn months later, I still see the same construction sites, the same potholes, the same closed down lanes leading to massive traffic jams. Where fixing a road takes a few weeks in Belgium, The Netherlands, Denmark, France or the UK, it takes months or even years in Germany!

Sirioja
02-20-21, 19:59
There have been lots of news that German health care providers refuse to be vaccinated by the Astra Zeneca vaccine so that means things will go slowly until they change their minds or other vaccines are available.

I've read about the same thing from France.Yes, AZ don t seem too welcome to be vaccined also by French medical, when not efficient versus mutants. New high peak should be on March in Western Europe, when not enough vaccine. I wonder if, when you know You are healthy with clean lungs, may be better to get and build your own soldiers, for most efficient vaccine. Of course, wish weak and at risk can be vaccined.

ShooBree
02-21-21, 01:47
I agree. I'm the worst!

Nonetheless. I looked but couldn't find anything of yours that was helpful. Perhaps you can lead us all to your "contributions."

Kissy face.Stop writing BS and start reading.

Pahllus Maximus
02-21-21, 04:55
I don't see this happening. It is total chaos, randomly flung about pharmacies, counties, states, doctors and whatever, most have broken web pages that require registration and excludes illegal immigrants because they cannot exist because the management consultants and their flow diagram assumptions are perfect. It's supposed to be free, but in typical fashion there are footnote, daggers and asterix that requires cash to be paid or insurance. I just checked one site, no appointment through 2023 ! USA is a pigs breakfast. It's not going to happen any time soon or at all.

I don't see how airlines will survive or much of the economy. And the stats don't lie. This is an older baby boomer disease; over 64 is 85% mortality and / or the obese or diabetes. Their one last selfish act on their way out. Pricks.

Mursenary
02-21-21, 06:00
Stop writing BS and start reading.Last 50 posts, found zero hooker reviews.

Mursenary
02-21-21, 06:58
Had a patient who had been in the same hospital room for one month straight; during that month, even with Noninvasive 100% oxygen support, he could not move more than 3 meters from his bed. He was never intubated, no Intravenous sedation meds, very limited visitors, liquid food for one month, required nurses to wipe his shit every time he had to poop (on a hospital bed). He was a 2 meter, 130 kg, 55 year old man. Last week he dropped his jello on the ground. The guy started crying uncontrollably for an hour. It was a complete mental breakdown. As evident with some of these rants, hospitalization and confinement are not necessary for similar mental breakdowns during this pandemic. On a positive note, the man was finally discharged home today to his wife and daughter.

BigBuddy69
02-21-21, 07:47
At ht96: on the other hand the autobahns are free in Germany, not in France. And the bureaucracy of Germany couldn't be slower than the French one.

HammerTime96
02-21-21, 10:49
I don't see this happening. It is total chaos, randomly flung about pharmacies, counties, states, doctors and whatever, most have broken web pages that require registration and excludes illegal immigrants because they cannot exist because the management consultants and their flow diagram assumptions are perfect. It's supposed to be free, but in typical fashion there are footnote, daggers and asterix that requires cash to be paid or insurance. I just checked one site, no appointment through 2023 ! USA is a pigs breakfast. It's not going to happen any time soon or at all.

I don't see how airlines will survive or much of the economy. And the stats don't lie. This is an older baby boomer disease; over 64 is 85% mortality and / or the obese or diabetes. Their one last selfish act on their way out. Pricks.I couldn't agree more, especially when you look at the facts and statistics about who is affected: just boomers are affected, the most spoilt and selfish generation in the world's history. The average age of Covid19 deaths in Germany is something like 84, and as I've repeatedly pointed out, according to Professor Ioannidis (one of the most cited and respected scientists in the world) infection mortality of people under 70 is 0,05% and the average (incl. People over 70) is 0,23%. See page 7 on the WHO website: https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf.

The biggest clue is the way you're not allowed to question any official narrative, and how the narrative keeps on changing to meet the purpose of more lockdowns.

*) In January, February last year, people were calling for closing borders and wanted to buy face masks, but the governments told those people: "you are racist conspiracy nutcases," and they allowed the virus to spread spread and spread! Now they lock people inside and force them to wear face masks, yet the number of "cases" still continue to rise and rise.

*) Voicing any questions or concerns about the "vaccine" are not allowed on the extreme left wing social media (again, those are "rightwing conspiracy theories" discussing successful conventional treatment methods with the use of HCQ or Ivermectin is also not allowed by the 'fact' checkers. Lots of virologists, microbiologists and other scientists are getting blocked on social media when they question the 'science' of for example Dr Drosten, the German (and Merkel's darling) who came up with the PCR test that is used to 'diagnose' the Sars-Cov-2 virus.

*) In Germany they have quietly reduced the threshold to justify lockdowns from 50 to 35, supposedly to 'combat mutations.'

*) Any side effects from the vaccine are swept under the rug.

The way they block any scientific and adult discussion with scientists who have a different opinion, it seems that all the 'scientists' that are on the government's payroll (puppets for the politicians) have a lot to hide.

As the joke-meme goes: "you only had one job. " and the government has been deliberately manipulating and brainwashing everybody that the "vaccine" is the only way out. So they completely mess that up that "one job" they gave themselves, while shop owners, restaurants, airlines, bars, and gyms are going bankrupt and people are losing their jobs being locked inside their own houses.

I was chatting to a German colleague who has 3 kids yesterday, and he told me that one of his children is showing serious signs of depression: not wanting to play with his friends, not wanting to do homework, not wanting to eat, basically not wanting to do anything except to just hang on the couch. His kids have basically been locked inside for 1 year; schools closed, then briefly reopened again, then closed again. "Thankfully," he said, " we have 3 kids, so they can play with each other, but imagine how lonely onliest children who don't have any brothers or sisters are growing up."

It's truly criminal what the German government is doing, but when you look at their history, it's not the first time they get caught up in a collective madness and hysteria!

Sirioja
02-21-21, 12:50
It's not that some people refuse to be vaccinated.

The problem is that hospitals immediately run into staffing shortages if 40-70% of the vaccinated people call in sick for a number of days because they are suffering from side effects. See my post below yours.

It's the hospitals that are deliberately scheduling less vaccinations, in order to make sure that enough healthy (read; not vaccinated! LOL!) hospital staff is available to work.

The German government couldn't organise a binge drinking party in a brewery, and the only way they can 'organise' something is with a massive government bureaucracy. (see: WW1 and WW2, and the DDR) Getting anything done with the German 'Behoerde' (authorities) like taxes, permits, approvals, is an extreme exercise in patience and endurance.

This Covid19 crisis has been a complete exposure of the incompetence of many governments. The initial chaos and panic in February-March last year was understandable, but one would have hoped (and guessed) that in the meantime cooler heads would have prevailed, also in Germany. But no. It's still chaos everywhere in Europe, including in Germany. Lockdowns, masks, no masks, closed borders, 15 km travel restrictions, online registrations for border crossings, quarantines, PCR test chaos, contact tracing, it's all one big chaos with no end in sight.For sure, Germans are European champions for works on autobahns, can only be really fast at night but better to know how to kick in brakes when entering works zones limited to 80 or 60 , just stressful and exhausting. When driving in Switzerland lead to jail, but what a relaxing pleasure to drive pushing in Italy between Tarvisio on Austrian border and Cuneo not so far from Genova and sea to go to climb for 22 kms la Bonette 2802 meters high and really look forward returning. I remember in NL around Maastricht, when you drive like me, you have drugs dealers thinking You are a go fast, making lights flashes to you and running after you, or also when arriving much faster in back, when Germans, Belgians, Austrians, Swiss or even Italians move to right line to let you go, but some NL braking just in front of you when you are in their back, because they just don t want You are faster, so most often having to kick really hard in brakes, then accelerating to pass on right line, letting snails sleeping on left line.

BigBuddy69
02-21-21, 16:41
Last 50 posts, found zero hooker reviews.Maybe you'll have some more chance if you scan the last 500.

Sirioja
02-21-21, 21:15
Had a patient who had been in the same hospital room for one month straight; during that month, even with Noninvasive 100% oxygen support, he could not move more than 3 meters from his bed. He was never intubated, no Intravenous sedation meds, very limited visitors, liquid food for one month, required nurses to wipe his shit every time he had to poop (on a hospital bed). He was a 2 meter, 130 kg, 55 year old man. Last week he dropped his jello on the ground. The guy started crying uncontrollably for an hour. It was a complete mental breakdown. As evident with some of these rants, hospitalization and confinement are not necessary for similar mental breakdowns during this pandemic. On a positive note, the man was finally discharged home today to his wife and daughter.Very good news fot him, his wife and daughter, but maybe 130 kgs didn't help him? Don't medicals say weight is a problem for health? When I know weight is handicap for dynamic, as I learned at school when I was a child, this for me, for cars, for bicycle.

In Western Europe, when we saw what happened in Portugal under UK mutant, but we should have more UK mutant cases than Chinese on March to come, Germany and Spain forbidding UK, when after Wengen. Ch cluster after ski on Christmas and new year, then they had to close, but now they welcome virus in Saint Moritz and Davos with tourists from all over the world, some north Americans, Asians, Europeans, Switzerland being everything for money cluster in the middle of western Europe.

Funny, Russia is proud about sputnik, but Russians don't trust to take, when they know Putin ex KGB lies, when KGB and CIA could compete to fuck citizens.

ShooBree
02-21-21, 23:21
Last 50 posts, found zero hooker reviews.Read your last 600 posts and no relevant posts whatsoever. It's interesting how you come to this site to pick fights. Typical troll behavior.

You should stop being lazy and start reading.

ShooBree
02-21-21, 23:22
Maybe you'll have some more chance if you scan the last 500.Are you talking about yourself now or what LMFAO!

Mursenary
02-22-21, 02:10
Very good news fot him, his wife and daughter, but maybe 130 kgs didn't help him? Don't medicals say weight is a problem for health? When I know weight is handicap for dynamic, as I learned at school when I was a child, this for me, for cars, for bicycle.

In Western Europe, when we saw what happened in Portugal under UK mutant, but we should have more UK mutant cases than Chinese on March to come, Germany and Spain forbidding UK, when after Wengen. Ch cluster after ski on Christmas and new year, then they had to close, but now they welcome virus in Saint Moritz and Davos with tourists from all over the world, some north Americans, Asians, Europeans, Switzerland being everything for money cluster in the middle of western Europe.

Funny, Russia is proud about sputnik, but Russians don't trust to take, when they know Putin ex KGB lies, when KGB and CIA could compete to fuck citizens.Read again and try to figure the main idea of the passage.

Mursenary
02-22-21, 05:58
Maybe you'll have some more chance if you scan the last 500.Managed to skim his last 100. He basically only posts on the non mongering special topics sub forums. He did manage to troll the Colombian sub forum though. Wonder what brought him there? Kids say the darnest things.

BigBuddy69
02-22-21, 07:03
Read again and try to figure the main idea of the passage.Evil Switzerland?

Chongmal
02-22-21, 11:44
Had a patient who had been in the same hospital room for one month straight; during that month, even with Noninvasive 100% oxygen support, he could not move more than 3 meters from his bed. He was never intubated, no Intravenous sedation meds, very limited visitors, liquid food for one month, required nurses to wipe his shit every time he had to poop (on a hospital bed). He was a 2 meter, 130 kg, 55 year old man. Last week he dropped his jello on the ground. The guy started crying uncontrollably for an hour. It was a complete mental breakdown. As evident with some of these rants, hospitalization and confinement are not necessary for similar mental breakdowns during this pandemic. On a positive note, the man was finally discharged home today to his wife and daughter.You know there will be some self righteous asshole that thinks they are a superior being to other mere earthlings, that will reply to this. They will reveal their total lack of grace and etiquette, hinting at a false humanity and compassion in one breath and in the next blaming the patient for their inferior health. I thought that etiquette was of French origin but it seems not to be a national trait. Let's see if we can set a higher standard.

I'm happy for you and your patient. It make me happy to hear their condition has improved to a level where they were able to be released and rejoin their family at home.

Pistons
02-22-21, 13:10
Are you schizophrenic, or why are you referring to yourself as "we"?
This has been ongoing for years here now. Mursenary / Takedown / Phallus Maximus / and 2-3 other nicknames. Those are the 'we's' he is referring to. All operated by the same person using VPN.

Pistons
02-22-21, 13:29
I don't see this happening. It is total chaos, randomly flung about pharmacies, counties, states, doctors and whatever, most have broken web pages that require registration and excludes illegal immigrants because they cannot exist because the management consultants and their flow diagram assumptions are perfect. It's supposed to be free, but in typical fashion there are footnote, daggers and asterix that requires cash to be paid or insurance. I just checked one site, no appointment through 2023 ! USA is a pigs breakfast. It's not going to happen any time soon or at all.

I don't see how airlines will survive or much of the economy. And the stats don't lie. This is an older baby boomer disease; over 64 is 85% mortality and / or the obese or diabetes. Their one last selfish act on their way out. Pricks.Yet you fail to understand how the pandemic is a cover-up to take the blame for the collapse of the current capitalistic currencies around the world. Especially the usd.

It is also an attempt to reduce world population, as has been studied to death by professors who consult the real world leaders since the 1970's. Back then the world's carrying capacity was at about 3 billion. I expect that figure has risen since then. But it is still below 5 billion. Meaning we are soon 3 billion too many. But who needs to go? A pandemic is one efficient way there. Besides, we can just make mutant viruses as we go along and while the stupid masses get their annual poison injections. Either giving them auto immune diseases, increased toxicity, upholds their immune system or a combination of all. In addition to side effects related to cocktail effects. Cocktail effects stemming from the 300+ poisons the same secret societies have managed to inject into our every day lives. From cock shrinking PFC's in frying pans and furniture (something I bet Mursenary has eaten a lot of since he refuses to believe in 'conspiracies' LOL) to sperm killing sulfur dioxide basically coating all non-organic fruit and vegetables. And the happy masses still think there cannot be any such thing as a conspiracy. We are all just happy little cute nice people aren't we? With no bad intentions. Especially people in power. Right?

Some links:

https://www.ladbible.com/news/interesting-non-stick-pans-linked-to-smaller-penises-20181205?fbclid=IwAR0xFQSXo8o1sZtw6ruSG4KptSEvxlEUPMzwexiIEA95N1IrkbBJ7EWVazI

https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/web/2017/10/Sulfur-dioxide-pollution-tied-degraded-sperm-quality.html?fbclid=IwAR0xFQSXo8o1sZtw6ruSG4KptSEvxlEUPMzwexiIEA95N1IrkbBJ7EWVazI

P.S. This is just the top of the iceberg. I have bucketloads of information related to most of the 300+ toxins injected into our every day lives for one reason only: population reduction. But this was just a quick post. Happy wanking guys!

HammerTime96
02-22-21, 15:52
As I've explained before, the benchmark that the federal German government uses is a threshold of 50 positive PCR tests per 100.000 inhabitants over the last 7 days. This is called the "Inzidenzwert" in German, or loosely translated, the incident value.

Is the Inzidenzwert 50 then lockdown measures will be taken like closing gyms, bars, restaurants, cinemas, so a logical conclusion would be that if this falls below 50, then things can be relaxed and reopened a little bit, right? No wrong, because the German government has already quietly lowered this value to 35, because obviously not enough companies are bankrupt yet.

Well, for all the lockdown fanboys, the face-rag-wearing Cov-idiots, the vaccine-hopers, and for the impotent losers who never want to visit FKK clubs again, there is even better news!

A few weeks ago this was of course "just a right wing conspiracy theory" and "fake news from anti-vaxxers" but now Jens Spahn, the German health minister, is openly talking about lowering this 'Incident value' to 10! This more or less guarantees permanent lockdowns! Halleluja!

https://www.merkur.de/politik/coronavirus-deutschland-lockdown-merkel-stufenplan-sport-kultur-news-aktuell-90212501.html


Spahn wischt Lockerungspläne bei Seite: „Geht halt gerade nicht“ - Minister will jetzt Inzidenz 10'Spahn whisks aside reopening plans: "not appropriate now" Minister wants an Incident value of 10. ' (my translation).

And from the Bayrische Rundfunk: https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/zeit-fuer-lockerungen-debatte-ueber-corona-oeffnungsplan-geht-weiter, SPftLoG.


"Inzidenz unter 10 weit weg": Debatte über Öffnungsplan'Incident value of 10 far away: debate about reopening plan. ' (my translation).

Well good luck guys! Looks like another year jerking off to porn, spending fortunes on sugardaddy websites, or paying for overpriced escorts!

Communism 2. 0 here we come! Everybody bankrupt, the State owns everything, and long live the Covid19-84 Police State!

HammerTime96
02-22-21, 15:55
At ht96: on the other hand the autobahns are free in Germany, not in France. And the bureaucracy of Germany couldn't be slower than the French one.Elections in September this year, let's wait what plans the neo-communists ('greens' and the SPD) will come up with. They have been pushing for years to have a speed limit, and hey, if we're 'lucky' they might also throw in an even more strict prostitution law like in Sweden! (of course all in the name of "public health," "protecting women" and "road safety."

HammerTime96
02-22-21, 16:05
P. S. For all the face-rag wearing Cov-idiots, this how 'important' Merkel's CDU party masks are: https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news/parteitag-der-cdu-100-menschen-ohne-maske-in-einem-raum-li.141482.

More than 100 people in a room during a CDU party meeting, all without face masks! 'Masks for thee, but not for me,' or as George Orwell wrote: "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

Politicians wining and dining on the taxpayer's expense, and all that while normal business are going bankrupt and people are locked inside their houses!

This is how 'deadly' Covid19 and all the "English mutation" is! / sarc.

Paulie97
02-22-21, 17:52
Managed to skim his last 100. He basically only posts on the non mongering special topics sub forums. He did manage to troll the Colombian sub forum though. Wonder what brought him there? Kids say the darnest things.There was a lot of Covid disputes on the "Stupid Shit in Medellin" thread. He picked up the scent and set up camp. He's certainly never set foot in Colombia.

Mursenary
02-22-21, 19:03
I don't see this happening. It is total chaos, randomly flung about pharmacies, counties, states, doctors and whatever, most have broken web pages that require registration and excludes illegal immigrants because they cannot exist because the management consultants and their flow diagram assumptions are perfect. It's supposed to be free, but in typical fashion there are footnote, daggers and asterix that requires cash to be paid or insurance. I just checked one site, no appointment through 2023 ! USA is a pigs breakfast. It's not going to happen any time soon or at all.How about some composure as we go through the bumps in the road of distribution to over 200 million people.

1.8 million doses are being given per day in the United States and is increasing. The rate was 1. 5 million per day the previous week. Currently, 13% of the population has already been given their first dose during a time where the pool of eligible recipients were limited to only elderly, at risk, and frontline workers. The pool of eligible recipients is being expanded as the weeks go by.

Previously, only hospitals and health departments were administering the vaccine. Now the retail pharmacies and private practice offices are administering them also.

While the previous administration did nothing to aid distribution, the current administration has been more proactive in his initial month in office tripling vaccination rates since taking office. As supply increases and the eligible pool is expanded to the general population, FEMA and the National Guard will be deployed to set up mobile vaccination clinics.

Johnson and Johnson's single dose vaccine which will not require extreme cold storage will likely be approved this week and begin administration next week. This will ease logistics of distribution and increase compliance.

At the same time, the Defense Production Act is to be implemented to increase production of vaccines and supplies.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state

At current vaccination rates, we're predicted to reach the 60% threshold by August and 75% by September. That rate is predicted to double in the upcoming month even before factoring the Johnson and Johnson supply and ease of distribution logistics it will bring. Best case estimates to threshold, although unlikely to go without some speed bumps, is Late May or June. But even before herd immunity is reached, transmission rates will continue to decline barring any super mutation events.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state


excludes illegal immigrants because they cannot exist
Citizenship and legal status documentation is not a requirement for vaccination, at least not as a general rule. Their personal fears are another matter. In fact, public health officials advocate for the higher need to vaccinate undocumented immigrants due to their High risk positions as essential workers.

We all know that large democracies are less efficient, lack standardization, and are often times incompetent. There are already enough bat brains spewing unverifiable garbage on here, no need to add to their attempts to spread more paranoia and cynicism.

BigBuddy69
02-22-21, 19:49
Elections in September this year, let's wait what plans the neo-communists ('greens' and the SPD) will come up with. They have been pushing for years to have a speed limitIt would be a not so bad thing since some psychos tend to mistake autobahns for a racing track.

BigBuddy69
02-22-21, 19:50
He's certainly never set foot in Colombia.Nor in Germany.

Mursenary
02-22-21, 19:55
You know there will be some self righteous asshole that thinks they are a superior being to other mere earthlings, that will reply to this. They will reveal their total lack of grace and etiquette, hinting at a false humanity and compassion in one breath and in the next blaming the patient for their inferior health. I thought that etiquette was of French origin but it seems not to be a national trait. Let's see if we can set a higher standard.

I'm happy for you and your patient. It make me happy to hear their condition has improved to a level where they were able to be released and rejoin their family at home.With the couple of rather strange French and Swedish representatives, if I am the single American offender, I think we're doing pretty good!

HammerTime96
02-22-21, 20:14
At current vaccination rates, we're predicted to reach the 60% threshold by August and 75% by September.Well, congratulations! The US has always been very good in poisoning themselves (legal drugs, illegal drugs, garbage nutrition, GMO foods) and rates at the bottom for as far as life expectancy and obesity goes in the 1st world. Just compare the US numbers to Japan, northern Europe and Scandinavia!

Please explain how US vaccination rates will this help open German FKK clubs? Will German FKK clubs start featuring fat American WGs instead of curvy Romanians? LOL!

Or are you just promoting the 'vaccine' because that's your 'job?' Question for 'doctor' Mercenary (someone who is for hire): "Does your doctor get money from drug companies?" https://youtu.be/WWMh3spivGc.


There are already enough bat brains spewing unverifiable garbage on here, no need to add to their attempts to spread more paranoia and cynicism.Just show us the long term trials of the "vaccines."

ShooBree
02-22-21, 20:42
There was a lot of Covid disputes on the "Stupid Shit in Medellin" thread. He picked up the scent and set up camp. He's certainly never set foot in Colombia.Stop self projecting, one of us visited Colombia several times before COVID-19 and it's not you.

You're a troll who only posts derogatory comments against other members. You've never been abroad and you've never made a trip report.

ShooBree
02-22-21, 20:43
Nor in Germany.Unlike you I have actually been to Germany and the FKK: s several times and posted trip reports.

Your just a worthless little troll.

ShooBree
02-22-21, 20:44
Managed to skim his last 100. He basically only posts on the non mongering special topics sub forums. He did manage to troll the Colombian sub forum though. Wonder what brought him there? Kids say the darnest things.You've never posted a trip report, why? Because you're just another worthless troll.

ShooBree
02-22-21, 20:48
It's time to ban trolls like Fredo, bigtroll and nursenary. They are a bunch trolls addicted of posting derogatory comments against contributing members while they never write anything related to the purpose of this forum. Probably because they've never been outside their basement.

Mursenary
02-22-21, 21:22
Well, congratulations! The US has always been very good in poisoning themselves (legal drugs, illegal drugs, garbage nutrition, GMO foods) and rates at the bottom for as far as life expectancy and obesity goes in the 1st world. Just compare the US numbers to Japan, northern Europe and Scandinavia!Gilbaltar, Israel, and UAE are all outpacing the US in vaccinations.


Please explain how US vaccination rates will this help open German FKK clubs? Will German FKK clubs start featuring fat American WGs instead of curvy Romanians? LOL! No idea, but two other people were speaking about the American situation because we're interesting in improving our situation here in order to be eligible to visit German FKKs in the future, even if that's not before 2022 according to your predictions. (Still have that post filed away).

Anyway, there are still more attractive people of all ethnicities living in the US than there total people in boring, homogeneous Sweden. Simple math really.


Or are you just promoting the 'vaccine' because that's your 'job?' Question for 'doctor' Mercenary (someone who is for hire): "Does your doctor get money from drug companies?" https://youtu.be/WWMh3spivGc.I work in emergency medicine and critical care so I don't know much about the finances of vaccination. I gave someone a tetanus shot once though. Unfortunately I was not compensated extra for doing so.


Just show us the long term trials of the "vaccines."Sure, as soon as you show causative proof of autoimmune and DNA altering effects from mRNA vaccines. Still waiting a month later.

Sirioja
02-22-21, 21:43
Elections in September this year, let's wait what plans the neo-communists ('greens' and the SPD) will come up with. They have been pushing for years to have a speed limit, and hey, if we're 'lucky' they might also throw in an even more strict prostitution law like in Sweden! (of course all in the name of "public health," "protecting women" and "road safety."Already not anymore so many free speed zones in Germany, more and more limited to 120/130. On average, I drive much faster in Italy. When new Audi had engine problems, on last Summer, old one with 550 000 kms for engine, nearly 500 000 in 5 years, was 20 km / h faster than Audi tests, but with 50% improved power with Shiftech and longer time for injectors and higher turbo pressure, my good work. Now Audi changed engine on new one when I proved them, look forward testing cleaning German autobahns, with 65 power more, to reach German cars speed limit, race karting, easy when you are used to speed, they your mind and eyes are relax. Maybe more sensations than brothels.

Paulie97
02-23-21, 00:54
Sure, as soon as you show causative proof of autoimmune and DNA altering effects from mRNA vaccines. Still waiting a month later.There of course is no such proof thus Hammer Time got caught talking out of his ass. He needs to find someone in Sweden to sell him some pussy so he doesn't have to spend so much time every day venting his anger in a monger forum.

Paulie97
02-23-21, 01:30
Anyway, there are still more attractive people of all ethnicities living in the US than there total people in boring, homogeneous Sweden. Simple math really.Too damned cold there. Give me Florida any day, with plenty of access to beaches and live NFL, NBA, and MLB games. It's also only a three hour plane ride to Colombia.

Pistons
02-23-21, 01:36
homogeneous Sweden. Simple math really.Homogenous Sweden? You should google The Stockholm Syndrome. Sweden is anything but homogenous. Most other Europeans have jokes on the swedes because they have this instinctual feminist love of being violated, abused and raped by immigrants from war torn countries. Basically, there is is common gene in Sweden giving most of the population what is known as The Stockholm Syndrome.

Sirioja
02-23-21, 08:11
When one here claims everything going better, but Biden cried yesterday for now more than 500000 deaths and not finished, when not really knowing for illegals nor millions without insurance, when rich Texas fell under cold with no water. Compare to optimistic statistics put here, real figures are just sad for me. UK is far over 100000 deaths, they spread mutant all over Western Europe, helped by everything for money Switzerland cluster in the middle of EU, so now we have more UK mutant new cases than the original one. Of course, can t blame Germany to try to protect, forbidding UK like Spain, or thinking to close inside EU borders, or thinking about sputnik when not enough vaccine. Like for everything and in brothels, I always prefer real facts and figures, rather than beautiful draws, when I think Biden told only about 400000 on superbowl not long ago, meaning 100 000 more deaths very fast, when 4000 on some days. But of course, can only wish for less deaths, and maybe a bit of ski if Italy open on April.

Chongmal
02-23-21, 11:02
This has been ongoing for years here now. Mursenary / Takedown / Phallus Maximus / and 2-3 other nicknames. Those are the 'we's' he is referring to. All operated by the same person using VPN.Does that make you Apolynon, the great conspirator of multiple profiles? As I predicted the actual person with multiple profiles. We must protect the sanctity and value of this forum from the crazy dangerous poster. If you encounter him in the club exercise extreme caution. We have utilized top level analysis to conclude some 20 plus profiles created and controlled by the same individual. The phraseology, cadence, punctuation and grammar make it easy and obvious to ascertain who is a clone. Fuck this fake profile bullshit and the horse it rode in on.

Turgid
02-23-21, 14:36
Well, congratulations! The US has always been very good in poisoning themselves (legal drugs, illegal drugs, garbage nutrition, GMO foods) ...Well I live in the US and do not do illegal drugs but most likely do all the others. As long as the girl is hot I can easily get it up so I'm good.

Turgid
02-23-21, 14:42
Elections in September this year, let's wait what plans the neo-communists ('greens' and the SPD) will come up with. They have been pushing for years to have a speed limit, and hey, if we're 'lucky' they might also throw in an even more strict prostitution law like in Sweden! (of course all in the name of "public health," "protecting women" and "road safety."Should we blame communism for strict anti-prostitution? When Russia, Cuba and China were at the height of their communism phase the mongering was very good. Look at the state of prostitution in the worlds number one capitalist country!

Chongmal
02-23-21, 15:50
It's time to ban trolls like Fredo, bigtroll and nursenary. They are a bunch trolls addicted of posting derogatory comments against contributing members while they never write anything related to the purpose of this forum. Probably because they've never been outside their basement.LOL, one of the most insulting least contributing of useful information members of this site calling for the ban of accounts just like his. Just stop responding with insults and they leave you alone. Stop reading them and they don't bother you.

HammerTime96
02-23-21, 15:51
Just show us the long term trials of the "vaccines."
Sure, as soon as you show causative proof of autoimmune and DNA altering effects from mRNA vaccines. Still waiting a month later.The answer to any possible long term side effects lies in long term testing, and since no long term testing was conducted, we simply don't know. That has been my point all this time, but you continue to gaslight me.

Show me one post where I stated that there is "proof" that there are autoimmune and DNA altering effects from mRNA vaccines! We simply don't know and the current "vaccines" are only 'approved' under an "Emergency Use Authorization" which allows manufacturers to skip steps in the approval process.

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

But don't worry, the FDA and Big Pharma say that the vaccines "have been rigorously tested," just like the FAA and Boeing said that the 737 MAX was "safe to fly" when it first came out. / sarc.

Have you ever heard of the "corrupt revolving door" between regulators and big corporations?


Gilbaltar, Israel, and UAE are all outpacing the US in vaccinations.
Again: so? Who cares who is first? What matters is that Germany is in full lockdown and that there is no end in sight. Have you read my posts about Germany and the so-called 'Inzidenzwert?' Or did you simply decide to ignore those posts, for the sake of promoting 'your' vaccine and to twist my words around regarding any *possible* long term DNA altering and autoimmune side effects?

Canary
02-23-21, 16:16
After yesterday's UK Government announcements regarding the timetable of easing restrictions everybody is talking about foreign travel & holidays for 2021.

There are various different schedules, March, all children back to school. April, Gyms & hairdressers to open with pubs & restaurants to open outdoors. May pubs / restaurants to open inside etc etc etc.

The Government is reporting back on 15th April regarding how foreign travel will work, IE vaccine passports etc.

However If all goes according to the plan. LOL! Normality should resume on 21st June.

It does help the UK with 18 million people already vaccinated and numerous data studies clearly showing that vaccinations not only protect people from being seriously ill and dying but also reduces transmissions. That applies to both Pfizer & Oxford AZ.

Despite an appalling death rate in the UK the Government has eventually done something right with the fast vaccine roll out, it's already organizing "one off" booster vaccine shots for autumn / winter for virus variants.

So once Europe quickly sorts out its vaccination programme life should return to some sort of normality. Then FKK Clubs can reopen Yipeeeeee!

Ararat
02-23-21, 18:08
So once Europe quickly sorts out its vaccination programme life should return to some sort of normality. Then FKK Clubs can reopen Yipeeeeee!UK is in Europe.

Anyway,

I'm not sure borders will open that easily and it will most likely be intra-EU first. Let's see if Saudis, Nigerians, Mexicans, Brits and others can visit Germany this year. I don't think it's clearcut just yet.

Ararat
02-23-21, 18:12
Yet you fail to understand how the pandemic is a cover-up to take the blame for the collapse of the current capitalistic currencies around the world. Especially the usd.

Britain maybe because they need to hide the effects of Brexit. Other countries not so much.

ExpatLover
02-23-21, 18:32
After yesterday's UK Government announcements regarding the timetable of easing restrictions everybody is talking about foreign travel & holidays for 2021.

There are various different schedules, March, all children back to school. April, Gyms & hairdressers to open with pubs & restaurants to open outdoors. May pubs / restaurants to open inside etc etc etc.

The Government is reporting back on 15th April regarding how foreign travel will work, IE vaccine passports etc.

However If all goes according to the plan. LOL! Normality should resume on 21st June.

It does help the UK with 18 million people already vaccinated and numerous data studies clearly showing that vaccinations not only protect people from being seriously ill and dying but also reduces transmissions. That applies to both Pfizer & Oxford AZ.

Despite an appalling death rate in the UK the Government has eventually done something right with the fast vaccine roll out, it's already organizing "one off" booster vaccine shots for autumn / winter for virus variants.

So once Europe quickly sorts out its vaccination programme life should return to some sort of normality. Then FKK Clubs can reopen Yipeeeeee!What I modestly learned from the covid crisis is that no prediction is working, who was speaking in June 20 about the British variant, yes the vaccine are working but not against all the variants and probably not against the new variant that will come in the next months. Most of the normal flue, and other virus or bacteria related diseases have drastically reduces since the implementation of the mass hand washing, social distancing, mask. But we have to admit that it is not.

Working against the spread of the covid.

Mursenary
02-23-21, 19:42
The answer to any possible long term side effects lies in long term testing, and since no long term testing was conducted, we simply don't know. That has been my point all this time, but you continue to gaslight me.

Show me one post where I stated that there is "proof" that there are autoimmune and DNA altering effects from mRNA vaccines! We simply don't know and the current "vaccines" are only 'approved' under an "Emergency Use Authorization" which allows manufacturers to skip steps in the approval process.

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

But don't worry, the FDA and Big Pharma say that the vaccines "have been rigorously tested," just like the FAA and Boeing said that the 737 MAX was "safe to fly" when it first came out. / sarc.

Have you ever heard of the "corrupt revolving door" between regulators and big corporations?

Again: so? Who cares who is first? What matters is that Germany is in full lockdown and that there is no end in sight. Have you read my posts about Germany and the so-called 'Inzidenzwert?' Or did you simply decide to ignore those posts, for the sake of promoting 'your' vaccine and to twist my words around regarding any *possible* long term DNA altering and autoimmune side effects?You seem like to make a lot of predictions based on selective maybes. Not my style. We'll just part ways here.

ShooBree
02-23-21, 20:54
LOL, one of the most insulting least contributing of useful information members of this site calling for the ban of accounts just like his. Just stop responding with insults and they leave you alone. Stop reading them and they don't bother you.Oh look at that, another troll account showed up. It would be much better if you told your troll friends to stop polluting this forum with their endless tirades of irrelevant nonsense and derogatory comments. I won't back down to worthless bullies like you and your other troll accounts.

You can stop talking me now, or not. I don't really care nor will I be silenced by trolls like you.

ShooBree
02-23-21, 20:56
Homogenous Sweden? You should google The Stockholm Syndrome. Sweden is anything but homogenous. Most other Europeans have jokes on the swedes because they have this instinctual feminist love of being violated, abused and raped by immigrants from war torn countries. Basically, there is is common gene in Sweden giving most of the population what is known as The Stockholm Syndrome.That's very much correct, unlike Nursenary you actually know what you're talking about.

Nursenary is a worthless narcissist.

Sirioja
02-23-21, 21:57
After yesterday's UK Government announcements regarding the timetable of easing restrictions everybody is talking about foreign travel & holidays for 2021.

There are various different schedules, March, all children back to school. April, Gyms & hairdressers to open with pubs & restaurants to open outdoors. May pubs / restaurants to open inside etc etc etc.

The Government is reporting back on 15th April regarding how foreign travel will work, IE vaccine passports etc.

However If all goes according to the plan. LOL! Normality should resume on 21st June.

It does help the UK with 18 million people already vaccinated and numerous data studies clearly showing that vaccinations not only protect people from being seriously ill and dying but also reduces transmissions. That applies to both Pfizer & Oxford AZ.

Despite an appalling death rate in the UK the Government has eventually done something right with the fast vaccine roll out, it's already organizing "one off" booster vaccine shots for autumn / winter for virus variants.

So once Europe quickly sorts out its vaccination programme life should return to some sort of normality. Then FKK Clubs can reopen Yipeeeeee!At the moment, UK are forbidden in Germany and Spain. I wonder how so many tourists from all over the world could reach Swiss Grisons in rich Saint Moritz and Davos. Are they flying?

BigBuddy69
02-23-21, 23:14
LOL, one of the most insulting least contributing of useful information members of this site calling for the ban of accounts just like his. Just stop responding with insults and they leave you alone. Stop reading them and they don't bother you.Baby ShoeTroll is crying to get some attention because his internet mommies don't care about him anymore.

The ignore function works perfectly fine on him, too bad he still doesn't get how it works.

Mursenary
02-24-21, 00:46
When one here claims everything going better, but Biden cried yesterday for now more than 500000 deaths and not finished, when not really knowing for illegals nor millions without insurance, when rich Texas fell under cold with no water. Compare to optimistic statistics put here, real figures are just sad for me. UK is far over 100000 deaths, they spread mutant all over Western Europe, helped by everything for money Switzerland cluster in the middle of EU, so now we have more UK mutant new cases than the original one. Of course, can t blame Germany to try to protect, forbidding UK like Spain, or thinking to close inside EU borders, or thinking about sputnik when not enough vaccine. Like for everything and in brothels, I always prefer real facts and figures, rather than beautiful draws, when I think Biden told only about 400000 on superbowl not long ago, meaning 100 000 more deaths very fast, when 4000 on some days. But of course, can only wish for less deaths, and maybe a bit of ski if Italy open on April.Real figures? You mean the ones put out by WHO, CDC, and EU CDC? By drawings you mean graphs that plot data? How strange to not understand how plotted data works.

For someone who likes fast cars and driving dangerously, I figured incidence curves would tap into some understanding of velocity and acceleration of case rates.

https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/de/

American deaths on Superbowl Sunday (7. Feb) was 480 K. It is now 510 K. That's 30 K, quite a bit less than 100 K. Real facts and figures:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

PaulInZurich
02-24-21, 05:56
Gilbaltar, Israel, and UAE are all outpacing the US in vaccinations.
Considering the size of the country I think US is doing a good job with vaccinations. UK too. Encouraging numbers from Israel, first studies will come out showing that the vaccines prevent not only hospitalizations but also transmission. Probably by the end of the year travel and other activities will be possible for people who can show the right QR code on an app on their phone.

PaulInZurich
02-24-21, 06:10
and maybe a bit of ski if Italy open on April.I guess it's not so terrible to live in Switzerland, ski season was great so far without the tourist masses. For example, on Tuesday morning when I woke up I decided to take a day off work and go ski. Before 10 am I was on the slopes.

Paulie97
02-24-21, 06:51
You seem like to make a lot of predictions based on selective maybes. Not my style. We'll just part ways here.Well said. Paranoid monger forum conspiracy theory peddlers aren't worth your time. Of course some proof to back up his claims would be interesting, but he's already admitted that he doesn't have any, so, that's that. If you were sitting at the bar in a club and he was next to you squawking his Chicken Little nonsense absent any proof, how long would you engage before you went to find another seat? Wink. He'll find a new sounding board soon enough.

BigBuddy69
02-24-21, 07:20
You're becoming really picky. Professor Xavier from the UK is sending all of his mutants to conquer Europe (or maybe Magneto I'm not so sure), evil Switzerland prepares itself for world domination with chocolate and watches, the cumulative number of deaths still increases in USA, Romania lost one third of his population because of the pimps, that's checked facts!

Oh and I forgot: Sweden has defeated the virus in August!

Sirioja
02-24-21, 09:15
Real figures? You mean the ones put out by WHO, CDC, and EU CDC? By drawings you mean graphs that plot data? How strange to not understand how plotted data works.

For someone who likes fast cars and driving dangerously, I figured incidence curves would tap into some understanding of velocity and acceleration of case rates.

https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/de/

American deaths on Superbowl Sunday (7. Feb) was 480 K. It is now 510 K. That's 30 K, quite a bit less than 100 K. Real facts and figures:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/I'm pretty sure Biden told about only 400.000 on superbowl when old Brady taught how to play to others, but he should not drink so much. But when I m not afraid of speed, sliding over quattro and super soft tires grip even on dry track, jumping to free ride among rocks or between crevaces even I'm very careful in these spots, maybe why I m not dead yet after so many years, about 30 years of extreme runs, when starting at 20 yo with what were called rodeo girl cars, H3 E21 improved, then RS500 Cosworth improved on 964 turbo power, when 964 was the last real one, with engine refreshed by air, but never crashed anybody but only me alone, but I m more scared, when we fight now versus mutants in Western Europe, France will go to 100 000 deaths, after UK, on 2021 which will kill more than 2020, when not enough vaccine in EU. If I could leave my work field, but I have to go daily to check safety, when I need so much to go in my mountains, to fly closer to the sky. As soon Italy open, I will make a scratch run through mountains, to go to fly like a free bird I am.

HammerTime96
02-24-21, 09:59
You seem like to make a lot of predictions based on selective maybes. Not my style. We'll just part ways here.Hahaha, ah yes of course. You get challenged to show us the long term vaccine tests, and you get challenged with the current facts on the ground in Germany, and then you quickly resort to an aloof: "we'll just part ways here."

Typical for people who support the political mainstream narrative: when confronted with inconvenient questions, arguments and facts: then just attack the messenger by gas lighting and trolling.

P.S. For a 'doctor' who allegedly works in an ER, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands for posting here. I thought you doctors and nurses were "so busy fighting Covid19-84" and ERs get flooded with patients? https://youtu.be/yhUAJRYA3bk.

Canary
02-24-21, 10:25
who was speaking in June 20 about the British variant, yes the vaccine are working but not against all the variants and probably not against the new variant that will come in the next months.1: As I stated the June 20th date (when UK hopes to return to some sort of normality) was from the UK Government (PM Johnson).

Finally the UK Government are complying with the advice of scientists & the data flow.

2: The vaccines currently available in the UK are all working against all the variants. Hospitalisations & deaths for those who.

Have taken the vaccine have been drastically reduced.

3: No one knows, not even the experts about new variants however UK scientists are confident that the current working vaccines.

Can be "tweaked " to accommodate & reduce the effects of new variants.

The AZ vaccine has been declared unreliable by various EU government's & medical people when new data continues to emerge of its success. In Scotland 95% reduction of hospitalisations for those who've taken AZ.

However there would now be a battle to convince EU citizens of its safeness & effectiveness after high profile incorrect criticism. Even today a German high ranking health minister was trying to convince his citizens of the safety in using AZ.

How ironic that the EU were recently enraged with AZ and the UK regarding lack of AZ vaccine supply but now due to incorrect public statements about it (especially President Macron) EU citizens are rejecting the vaccine.

The only reason I bother to post on this subject is I read so much doom & gloom on here and not all of it is actually factually correct.

Whether people don't believe in the vaccines or don't want the Pfizer or AZ is entirely their personal choice but they do need to be careful where they get their information from to arrive at a decision.

ShooBree
02-24-21, 11:52
Baby ShoeTroll is crying to get some attention because his internet mommies don't care about him anymore.

The ignore function works perfectly fine on him, too bad he still doesn't get how it works.LOL! The bigtroll is still crying and obsessing over me because I corrected him when he falsely claimed that Sweden had a lockdown because the museums were closed. LMFAO! This forum is full of French morons.

ExpatLover
02-24-21, 19:14
1: As I stated the June 20th date (when UK hopes to return to some sort of normality) was from the UK Government (PM Johnson).

Finally the UK Government are complying with the advice of scientists & the data flow.

2: The vaccines currently available in the UK are all working against all the variants. Hospitalisations & deaths for those who.

Have taken the vaccine have been drastically reduced.

3: No one knows, not even the experts about new variants however UK scientists are confident that the current working vaccines.

Can be "tweaked " to accommodate & reduce the effects of new variants.

The AZ vaccine has been declared unreliable by various EU government's & medical people when new data continues to emerge of its success..Nobody is able to predict the future of this pandemy, the crowd needs positive infuse so give them the vaccine to eat. The coming months will demonstrate how efficient the vaccine are, Pfister and co are already testing new formulation why if the current one is so efficient? 1 year back I was described as a very negative and pessimistic guy when I was saying this pandemic will take years to be solved, today the situation is worse than even I could imagine and obviously many mongers on this forum ere saying normal life will be back mid of 2020. I believe in the vaccine but I believe also that the virus is always mutating by principal and that the the Pfister and Moderna vaccine are mostly targeting the spike protein which is a challenging approach in case of important mutation.

Sirioja
02-24-21, 23:09
I guess it's not so terrible to live in Switzerland, ski season was great so far without the tourist masses. For example, on Tuesday morning when I woke up I decided to take a day off work and go ski. Before 10 am I was on the slopes.You can't imagine how I loved so beautiful Wallis where I spent my youth best part for nearly all my holidays, about 2 months for 10 years, I learned more ski there than in France, even I turned to free ride after 18 yo in France. I remember when in Summer we slept in mountains. But I discovered behind the curtain, like drugs business, being informed by Albanians, and I will never forgive how they treated me. Even more difficult to reach, but now I prefer to go to Breuil. It than Zermatt, I could only make exception to break my runs records in Verbier, I will think if I can reach from Aosta, I m sure on this way, no one will follow me. I wonder what happen in Saint Moritz or Davos which are out of control after Wengen, not same laws for rich.

Mursenary
02-25-21, 02:04
I'm pretty sure Biden told about only 400.000 on superbowl when old Brady taught how to play to others, but he should not drink so much.

but I m more scared, when we fight now versus mutants in Western Europe, France will go to 100 000 deaths, after UK, on 2021 which will kill more than 2020, when not enough vaccine in EU.Numbers say differently, 478 K American deaths on 6. February:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Mursenary
02-25-21, 02:29
1: As I stated the June 20th date (when UK hopes to return to some sort of normality) was from the UK Government (PM Johnson).

Finally the UK Government are complying with the advice of scientists & the data flow.

2: The vaccines currently available in the UK are all working against all the variants. Hospitalisations & deaths for those who.

Have taken the vaccine have been drastically reduced.

3: No one knows, not even the experts about new variants however UK scientists are confident that the current working vaccines..Thanks for adding one more to Team Reasonable and Rational. My optimism is that the cool heads are the ones who remain silent. They are certainly wiser people than me. It's cool, the situation in the US and UK are much improved and I too share in your optimism. For all reasons that led to the EU states lagging behind on vaccinations, it seems that they are ramping up efforts. The rising cases in Eastern Europe gives me some pause but that situation will just need to be monitored. Germany did a good job addressing it pretty early so hopefully their partial Eastern border closer in combination with Europe's traffic light approach for inter EU travel will assure that Western Europe does not see too much of a bump in cases. My hope is that we'll continue winding down these cases, while putting out any brushfires as I'm sure some speed bumps will arise over the upcoming months.

I hold some reservations that as we approach critical mass in vaccinations, say 50%, that the pool of willing recipients of the vaccine will shrink, slowing down vaccination rates. Another issue may be as cases dwindle, younger and healthy people will delay their efforts to get vaccinated. There has to be a concerted effort to make getting the vaccine as effortless as possible as the slow appointment system will easily deter personal efforts. In my city, FEMA (Disaster response agency) and the National Guard has set up a drive through vaccination clinic. As supply increases, more of these setups will be of most importance.

Mursenary
02-25-21, 02:39
Considering the size of the country I think US is doing a good job with vaccinations. UK too. Encouraging numbers from Israel, first studies will come out showing that the vaccines prevent not only hospitalizations but also transmission. Probably by the end of the year travel and other activities will be possible for people who can show the right QR code on an app on their phone.The US's decentralized system of diverse states poses a challenge to efficient distribution throughout all areas, but it seems that the Presidential Administration has stepped in to help with logistics. My state is lagging behind in vaccinations which is likely why there are currently federal agencies assisting here.

The UK decided to make the aggressive play by going against the recommended dosing schedule and delaying the second dose, opting to use supplies to give more people their first vaccination. It seems that gamble is paying off as witnessed by their much improved situation.

Mursenary
02-25-21, 02:53
P.S. For a 'doctor' who allegedly works in an ER, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands for posting here. I thought you doctors and nurses were "so busy fighting Covid19-84" and ERs get flooded with patients? https://youtu.be/yhUAJRYA3bk.I'm comfortable with my contribution to help control the COVID situation this past year having not taken a single week off from the ICU. Likewise, I'm sure you'll comfortable with your position. Best wishes to you and yours.

Paulie97
02-25-21, 03:12
Typical for people who support the political mainstream narrative: when confronted with inconvenient questions, arguments and facts: then just attack the messenger by gas lighting and trolling.What "facts?" You were repeatedly asked to present proof of your anti-vaxer nonsense regarding alterations to DNA and immune deficiencies. Everyone has been waiting over a month, and thus shouldn't feel compelled to further entertain your deflections and dodges.

Probably the funniest move from you here was when you used these "America's frontline doctors" buffoons / quacks as a source for your Covid denialism. They naturally have the antivaxer angle going now, and one was just arrested for involvement in the Capital riot. In a word you are a joke. It makes no difference what you decide to call a "fact" or if your feet are on the ground in Germany. There are plenty of dumb people in Europe, just like everywhere else.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/washington-watch/washington-watch/90778

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90536

Rocky V
02-25-21, 12:14
The AZ vaccine has been declared unreliable by various EU government's & medical people when new data continues to emerge of its success. In Scotland 95% reduction of hospitalisations for those who've taken AZ.

However there would now be a battle to convince EU citizens of its safeness & effectiveness after high profile incorrect criticism. Even today a German high ranking health minister was trying to convince his citizens of the safety in using AZ.

How ironic that the EU were recently enraged with AZ and the UK regarding lack of AZ vaccine supply but now due to incorrect public statements about it (especially President Macron) EU citizens are rejecting the vaccine.

The only reason I bother to post on this subject is I read so much doom & gloom on here and not all of it is actually factually correct.

Whether people don't believe in the vaccines or don't want the Pfizer or AZ is entirely their personal choice but they do need to be careful where they get their information from to arrive at a decision.Having looked closely at the controversy about AZ vaccine, the issue seems to be related to the fact that AZ didn't include enough over 65 people in their clinical trials and so various governments are only recommending this vaccine only for younger people. This is simply because the AZ vaccine wasn't tested enough in elderly people and they need to wait and see more evidence that it works in such a frail population. US is also likely to reject permission to use AZ vaccine in US, so here is another big country having the SAME concerns as the EU.

I also live in the UK and we all know we are now under a sort of Tory dictatorship, which twisted the MHRA arm to speed up approval of AZ vaccine. In the end MHRA was forced to approve the vaccine, but with reservations and subject to continued monitoring. Also the UK strategy to give only one dose of the vaccine instead of two, so that the vaccination numbers look good, may be a gamble the government is taking on people's lives. We all know the Tories don't care about people, in fact, among the few people (below 500,000 to date) that have received the two doses of the vaccine there are the Boris Johnson's parents and few other relatives of Tory MPs.

Rock.

PaulInZurich
02-25-21, 15:01
The US's decentralized system of diverse states poses a challenge to efficient distribution throughout all areas, but it seems that the Presidential Administration has stepped in to help with logistics. My state is lagging behind in vaccinations which is likely why there are currently federal agencies assisting here.Countries with a federal system like Germany or Switzerland have their own challenges, you get friction between federal and local governments. Right now, the main issue is that not enough vaccine is available, but at least in Switzerland they would need to severely ramp up vaccination capabilities to keep the promise that everybody who wants to be vaccinated will have the opportunity by June / July.

Mursenary
02-25-21, 16:43
Countries with a federal system like Germany or Switzerland have their own challenges, you get friction between federal and local governments. Right now, the main issue is that not enough vaccine is available, but at least in Switzerland they would need to severely ramp up vaccination capabilities to keep the promise that everybody who wants to be vaccinated will have the opportunity by June / July.It seems that a lot of the supply issue came from the fact that the EU nations were slow to approve the vaccines. Hopefully that just means that EU nations are just a month behind.

For the US, there was no so much an issue with friction between levels of government but more issues with lack of direction and coordination. The result is having some states with vaccination rates of 25% and some with less than 5%.

ShooBree
02-25-21, 17:07
Having looked closely at the controversy about AZ vaccine, the issue seems to be related to the fact that AZ didn't include enough over 65 people in their clinical trials and so various governments are only recommending this vaccine only for younger people. This is simply because the AZ vaccine wasn't tested enough in elderly people and they need to wait and see more evidence that it works in such a frail population. US is also likely to reject permission to use AZ vaccine in US, so here is another big country having the SAME concerns as the EU.

I also live in the UK and we all know we are now under a sort of Tory dictatorship, which twisted the MHRA arm to speed up approval of AZ vaccine. In the end MHRA was forced to approve the vaccine, but with reservations and subject to continued monitoring. Also the UK strategy to give only one dose of the vaccine instead of two, so that the vaccination numbers look good, may be a gamble the government is taking on people's lives. We all know the Tories don't care about people, in fact, among the few people (below 500,000 to date) that have received the two doses of the vaccine there are the Boris Johnson's parents and few other relatives of Tory MPs.

Rock.Hahaha, it's laughable to see what kind of left wing weirdos with tinfoil hats this forum attracts.

Canary
02-25-21, 20:03
Having looked closely at the controversy about AZ vaccine, the issue seems to be related to the fact that AZ didn't include enough over 65 people in their clinical trials and so various governments are only recommending this vaccine only for younger people. This is simply because the AZ vaccine wasn't tested enough in elderly people and they need to wait and see more evidence that it works in such a frail population. US is also likely to reject permission to use AZ vaccine in US, so here is another big country having the SAME concerns as the EU.

I also live in the UK and we all know we are now under a sort of Tory dictatorship, which twisted the MHRA arm to speed up approval of AZ vaccine. In the end MHRA was forced to approve the vaccine, but with reservations and subject to continued monitoring. Also the UK strategy to give only one dose of the vaccine instead of two, so that the vaccination numbers look good, may be a gamble the government is taking on people's lives. We all know the Tories don't care about people, in fact, among the few people (below 500,000 to date) that have received the two doses of the vaccine there are the Boris Johnson's parents and few other relatives of Tory MPs.

Rock.I totally agree with your comments regarding Johnson & the Conservatives, they have completely mismanaged the epidemic with horrendously poor communication and a general lack of intellect in the Cabinet.

However I think you're maybe giving a disservice to some of the medical & scientific team like Jonathan Van Tam who have guided the country out of the mess along with the marvellous NHS. It was them who pushed the Government to do the one dose strategy in 12 weeks ignoring the advise of the WHO and everyone else as their data & info was pointing them in this direction.

It won't be the UK politicians that gets us through this pandemic but the scientists & NHS.

Hopefully I will be able to raise a glass to them in the Sharks garden later this summer?

Canary
02-25-21, 20:21
I hold some reservations that as we approach critical mass in vaccinations, say 50%, that the pool of willing recipients of the vaccine will shrink, slowing down vaccination rates. Another issue may be as cases dwindle, younger and healthy people will delay their efforts to get vaccinated. There has to be a concerted effort to make getting the vaccine as effortless as possible as the slow appointment system will easily deter personal efforts. In my city, FEMA (Disaster response agency) and the National Guard has set up a drive through vaccination clinic. As supply increases, more of these setups will be of most importance.You certainly have a point that the younger age groups may not be so bothered to take the vaccine but hopefully people in the UK and indeed throughout Europe & the world have more sense and will ignore some of the anti vaccine propaganda which is frankly being disproved with new data every week.

Latest figures for the UK for vaccine uptake are:

94.3% of people aged 80 and over had received their first dose.

100% of people aged 75-79.

94.4% of people aged 70-74.

75.3% of people aged 65 to 69. (this age range continue to be vaccinated).

Sirioja
02-25-21, 20:31
1: As I stated the June 20th date (when UK hopes to return to some sort of normality) was from the UK Government (PM Johnson).

Finally the UK Government are complying with the advice of scientists & the data flow.

2: The vaccines currently available in the UK are all working against all the variants. Hospitalisations & deaths for those who.

Have taken the vaccine have been drastically reduced.

3: No one knows, not even the experts about new variants however UK scientists are confident that the current working vaccines.

Can be "tweaked " to accommodate & reduce the effects of new variants.

The AZ vaccine has been declared unreliable by various EU government's & medical people when new data continues to emerge of its success. In Scotland 95% reduction of hospitalisations for those who've taken AZ.AZ is not forbidden in France, but many and medical don't trust so much. Only given to less than 65 yo in France. When lack of vaccine, when need to vaccine old, weak, at risk, to protect them, for less deaths, but virus still spreading, mostly now UK one.