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Pistons
05-23-21, 16:36
The only iffy thing here is that in order to achieve general AI, we might first have to understand the brain better on a large data sample. And one of the simplest ways of doing that is by nanorobots (not that it is simple. But the lesser of some difficulties perhaps). And that is where we are with vaccines and test kits developed by darpa too. This is where it stems from. It is due to transhimanism.

PaulInZurich
05-23-21, 16:38
... But my only drug is adrenaline I look for in my sports or on German autobahns... Did you ever thing to race cars on a track, not on public roads? You know, so that you don't put other people in danger? You probably would be laughed off the track though, so it's easier to brag in a forum.

Pistons
05-23-21, 16:39
I emphasize the Chinese story here, because they are the worlds best savers.True, but saving is only smart if you are the only one doing it. It's like avoiding bitcoin or dogecoin the moment the herds are investing.

PaulInZurich
05-23-21, 16:43
So I remember somebody here who was very sure that this is not possible when I posted about this weeks ago. Will that person now admit that they were wrong?

ExpatLover
05-23-21, 16:59
So I remember somebody here who was very sure that this is not possible when I posted about this weeks ago. Will that person now admit that they were wrong?I knew they will open in the last days I saw many big cars with Rumanian plates and prostitutes inside driving around Vienna. I could already go there today or tomorrow, will I go there for sure not.

BigBuddy69
05-23-21, 17:00
I just don't trust amateurs. And there are plenty of amateurs. I take about 10 pills per day myself ATM.You're the one who was afraid of the vaccines and now you're talking about nanorobots? Enjoy.

Mursenary
05-23-21, 17:00
The CRA demographic is an extreme example, but it seems the average Chinese millennial is also losing the savings reflex compared to past generations. The money that their parents saved is allowing Chinese millennials to have some financial cushion, which would provide them with more disposable income than their salary would suggest. It also seems common for Chinese parents (even on a taxi driver salary) to buy their children a home. This is due to their parents' legendary saving habits. And in part due to the one-child policy, that allowed financial resources to flow to a single offspring. P2 P lending also seems to be fueling new spending habits for the younger generation.

RE: Nigerians and Indians. I emphasize the Chinese story here, because they are the worlds best savers. And if the younger generation can undergo such a drastic change in spending habits, then it could happen anywhere. Immigrant savings habits are forged in great part due to the economic conditions back home, and much of that is dependent on what decade they were born in, and what year they left their home country. If each successive generation of Nigerians and Indians get more "spoiled" like the Chinese have, their savings reflex will also diminish. You said yourself, you are frugal, but nowhere near as frugal as your mother.To be honest, I've lost track of the main point of contention. Mine was that immigrant savings rates are higher than native born.

Sirioja
05-23-21, 17:36
Did you ever thing to race cars on a track, not on public roads? You know, so that you don't put other people in danger? You probably would be laughed off the track though, so it's easier to brag in a forum.If you know what it is, or look on internet, I rebuilt a crashed RS500 Cosworth when I was 26, using race pieces, putting more than 50% more on engine power, with race yellow injectors, race bigger Garett turbo and so impressive noise for race turbo wastegate for 1,8 bar, making fire under and behind car, and drove daily to go to work for nearly 15 years. When I meet people 15 years later, none forgot but asking about the legend, the image, the noise and starts with engine at 5000 tours / mn and putting left feet off clutch, good game with fire behind, was called rodeo girl, when new cars are so easy and my figures are 0 crash in Germany or Switzerland for snails, when I often see crashes there and was so many times in Switzerland with RS500 , I remember when climbing, maximum accelerating to ski resorts, like rallye runs. No radars in mountains. If You ever tried, You would know circuits kill tires, brakes and suspensions, when Audi don t understand how I kill so fast brakes disks, not only plaques, but just normal when You brake on high speed, then brakes reach high temperature and are killed much faster. I feel more safe pushing in Germany than snailing risking to feel asleep in Switzerland where I didn't return since 6 months. I regret for Verbier, but just easy about brothels.

Pessimist
05-23-21, 17:43
RE: Nigerians and Indians. I emphasize the Chinese story here, because they are the worlds best savers. And if the younger generation can undergo such a drastic change in spending habits, then it could happen anywhere. Immigrant savings habits are forged in great part due to the economic conditions back home, and much of that is dependent on what decade they were born in, and what year they left their home country. If each successive generation of Nigerians and Indians get more "spoiled" like the Chinese have, their savings reflex will also diminish. You said yourself, you are frugal, but nowhere near as frugal as your mother.For a long time, the Chinese saved because there was not much consumption to be had, no other ways to save money. By law, no one owns land, it is only a lease right for a few decades. Even this reform was introduced not that long ago, perhaps 20 or 30 years ago. Real interest rates are suppressed, capital flows in and out of the country are controlled by the government. Real estate was the primary investment vehicle but in the absence of a truly developed mortgage market, buyers need to save for down payments which are rather large. US is one of the few markets with long term mortgages widely available w / no pre-payment penalties; can never underestimate the impact this lack of prepayment penalty clause had in the development of this market here. There is a wide institutional ownership of such mortgages here, but such capital markets are not developed anywhere else. In fact, even in Europe, even now, even corporates depend on their banks for a large percent of their funding needs. Anyway, coming back to China, in the last decade, shadow banking is developing fast, there are other venues for investments, A share market is massive, and of course consumption has taken off. You can't ignore government role in all of this. Up to a decade ago, China's economy was inverted from that of US; here consumption is 70% of GDP while in China it was in the 40's. It was primarily an export driven economy funded by the people and their savings which were receiving artificially low interest rates. Now, they are engineering a massive turnaround into a consumption focused economy, as exports are slowing, there is widespread backlash from other nations due to trade deficits, and many other reasons. I would not attribute the savings rate differential to some mythical cultural traits ingrained in one race v other; under different circumstances, different economic conditions and policies by their governments, the same set of people would save and consume at different rates.

Sirioja
05-23-21, 18:08
So I remember somebody here who was very sure that this is not possible when I posted about this weeks ago. Will that person now admit that they were wrong?I didn't think Austria would allow risky brothels opening so fast, but how? FFP2? QR code? I will wait before going, I don't want to go to a hospital and I want free foods, even I really enjoyed my GT Vienna discovery on last Summer when not so crowded, without mask nor QR code. Maybe ZH and Germany will follow soon. Let's see, when Germany put now UK under 15 days quarantine. I don't believe so much what claim brothels.

Pessimist
05-23-21, 21:02
https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228?mod=hp_lead_pos3

I realize this site is full of CCP sympathizers and their apologists. But slowly the dialog is shifting to figuring out the true origin of this virus. The vicious backlash from CCP towards Australia with some CCP officials even mentioning nuclear weapons usage shows their defensiveness, and how edgy they continue to be. As of now, even the most strident CCP critics are staying with the accidental leak theory. At some point, if / when the lab origin of the virus is confirmed, the next question to be asked will be if the leak was accidental indeed or had the full blessing of Chinese admin / Xi.

A year ago, WSJ wouldn't have touched a story like this w / a ten foot pole. Now, it is their headline.

Sailor501
05-24-21, 14:05
Good morning guys, right now I have to pay $1.22 us to buy one euro, anybody want to comment on this, why this is happening, not the best deal to go to Europe, even if you could get there.

Turgid
05-24-21, 16:24
https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228?mod=hp_lead_pos3

I realize this site is full of CCP sympathizers and their apologists. But slowly the dialog is shifting to figuring out the true origin of this virus. The vicious backlash from CCP towards Australia with some CCP officials even mentioning nuclear weapons usage shows their defensiveness, and how edgy they continue to be. As of now, even the most strident CCP critics are staying with the accidental leak theory. At some point, if / when the lab origin of the virus is confirmed, the next question to be asked will be if the leak was accidental indeed or had the full blessing of Chinese admin / Xi.

A year ago, WSJ wouldn't have touched a story like this w / a ten foot pole. Now, it is their headline.What I find very confusing about the theory that the CCP deliberately leaked a lab engineered virus is why would they leak it in their own country?

Mursenary
05-24-21, 16:45
With a so exceptional mother, you can only love women. Enjoy with your friends here and in brothels, when you didn't understand from your experience in brothels.Won't exactly don't I understand?

Pessimist
05-24-21, 17:30
What I find very confusing about the theory that the CCP deliberately leaked a lab engineered virus is why would they leak it in their own country?Motives of CCP are not necessarily in alignment with the humanistic values we assume in the West. Here is one possibility: If they had felt they could control it and keep it limited to one province and deaths to a manageable #, and then unleash it on the rest of the world which crippled all their rivals while their own GDP was stable to growing, it was a calculated risk with large upside. The thousands of lives lost in Wuhan were acceptable collateral.

Now, even to their own citizens, CCP look like heroes. "hey, the party had defeated the virus much better; look at how the rest of the world struggled". CCP's regime and legitimacy constantly depend on stoking the "us v them" netionalistic fervor. I have no doubt that if a real poll were done, CCP's popularity in China is higher today than it was in December 2019.

I am not saying this is what happened. But there is also no proof that it did not happen. The investigation has been shoddy and non-existent at best, the west caved in, China feigned haughty indignity when pressed and some extreme elements in their regime almost threatened nuclear missile launches at the Aussies.

If this virus was leaked, and especially deliberately leaked (but even if done accidentally), something that resulted in potentially more deaths than from Nazi pogroms, should that be investigated? Even if it is a 1% chance, it should be investigated IMO. But the CCP apologists like to call it baseless conspiracy, belittle and shame those demanding investigations and squelch all discussion.

CCP killed millions in their own purges in the past. Whether it was called the Great Leap Forward or something else. People forget because those things happened a while ago that they have become lovey dovey loosey goosey but their goal is to keep absolute control over the nation and potentially expand internationally and the lives of some citizens have been and will be sacrificed in that grand quest.

Pessimist
05-24-21, 18:43
Good morning guys, right now I have to pay $1.22 us to buy one euro, anybody want to comment on this, why this is happening, not the best deal to go to Europe, even if you could get there.DXY has weakened from slightly more than 102 on March 20,2020 to slightly less than 90 today. DXY is a weighted dollar index against a basket of all major currencies. Specifically v Euro too, the same pattern: Euro spot weakened from 1. 24 in March'18 to 1. 07 in March'20 and since then rebounded back to 1. 22+. During the sell off into Covid crash, dollar strengthened as a safe haven. That might be laughable for some, but beggar they neighbor applies when it comes to currencies. Conversely, from March 2020, markets priced in an improving outlook (as reflected in stock prices as well), and during rebounds, the weakest that got crushed the most also rebound the most. Which is helping the other currencies vs Dollar. Finally, the US Fed has committed to a very extended extremely easy monetary policy and have stayed steadfast -- even in the face of obviously rising inflation. When the Fed says rates will stay at zero on the short end, no currency trader will fight it.

Personally, the market will snap at some point. Any business owner can tell you it is so tough to hire people these days. Inflation is creeping up quite fast. We will see how long the Fed will stay on this route. If / when Fed breaks their resolve and signal they will let go of the easy policy, dollar will rise sharp v other currencies. Conversely, I am a Euro skeptic, never see any sustained growth in Euro, and sooner or later their economy WILL suck, and that will pull down Euro with it.

Pistons
05-24-21, 19:57
You're the one who was afraid of the vaccines and now you're talking about nanorobots? Enjoy.I have understood for a long time that you have issues understanding logic. So here are a few hints:

1. Vaccines are a massive risk for all sorts of reasons, and the database showing side effects is only growing larger by the day. It is also just the top of the iceberg! And already hundreds of thousands of people in Europe alone are on the list of affected. If not millions (I haven't checked in awhile). Plus there is a lag on these numbers. And doctors and others have a tendency to point fingers at other causes.

2. The link between nanorobots and vaccines is not something I personally believe in. The darpa funded test kits and its potential link to such nanobots might even be more reasonable, though still dubious. But just because I wrote about it does not mean I think we are there yet. If ever.

3. If I were to insert nanorobs into a large population to study and control their brains, I'd contact Nestle or Coca Cola about it instead of some dubious (LOL) vaccine company! Though I have realised long time ago that even the richest or presumably smartest people on this planet are not as alpha as myself when it comes to smart strategical thinking! So who knows?

Pistons
05-24-21, 20:11
Then again, if Elon's brain chip becomes a success, people might just sign up for nanorobots for increased functionality as a 2nd generation arrives in 9 or 10 years anyway. Unless that is too late or unforeseen complications arrives. But that is the projected timeline.

Sirioja
05-24-21, 21:42
For sure ASAP most of the FKK will reopen, but what will be the LU and more importantly do you really believe that being vaccinated protect you to get sick, I will not meet any prostitute before the pandemy is completely under control.Quite average casting on 2020 reopening at Samya. If you are afraid to get sick, better not to go to risky playfield FKK. I survived from my many visits in Germany, Austria and Switzerland under covid, giving my real number to get contacted if needed.

Mursenary
05-25-21, 04:29
Though I have realised long time ago that even the richest or presumably smartest people on this planet are not as alpha as myself when it comes to smart strategical thinking! So who knows?Strange that a super intellectual alpha exists in such a mediocre position in life socially, professionally, physically, and financially. The appropriate question is: "By what metric."

Ararat
05-25-21, 08:04
Motives of CCP are not necessarily in alignment with the humanistic values we assume in the West. Here is one possibility: If they had felt they could control it and keep it limited to one province and deaths to a manageable #, and then unleash it on the rest of the world which crippled all their rivals while their own GDP was stable to growing, it was a calculated risk with large upside. The thousands of lives lost in Wuhan were acceptable collateral.They would be morons in that case which is not impossible but it would make more sense that the viruses escaped from the lab.

BigBuddy69
05-25-21, 13:32
Each time I read you, I wonder if you're trolling since the beginning or if you're just totally nuts.

Believe me, no one of us will see the day when you can easily replace some body parts with cybernetic prosthetics or use nanorobots to fix I don't know what. It will remain science fiction stuff for a really long time.

McAdonis
05-25-21, 17:34
Inflation is creeping up quite fast. We will see how long the Fed will stay on this route."Everything Screams Inflation: Investors are woefully unprepared for what may be a once-in-a-generation shift in the market": https://www.wsj.com/articles/everything-screams-inflation-11620163599?mod=article_inline.

"If Inflation Is Coming, Here Is What to Do About It: Investing to protect a portfolio against the likelihood of rising prices is harder than it looks": https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-inflation-is-coming-here-is-what-to-do-about-it-11620694235.

Both from the same author. Is he just trying to get more hits? Or some truth?

Mursenary
05-25-21, 18:17
They would be morons in that case which is not impossible but it would make more sense that the viruses escaped from the lab.I feel the same. While conspiracy and deliberate intent is often the more sexy story, I have found that incompetence and laziness more often than not explains society's problems.

Pessimist
05-25-21, 18:37
They would be morons in that case which is not impossible but it would make more sense that the viruses escaped from the lab.What we call them. Morons, heroes, etc - (depending on who is doing the calling) is less relevant.

What does matter is that there is evidence and an investigation that should have been pursued but which was not. Through 2020, there was even a rush to ignore it, give CCP a clean chit and accept their version of the origin. It was only some dogged pursuit of this by people who were ridiculed throughout 2020 that there is some new info coming to the surface.

If the leak was even an accidental one, it is a monumental scandal and heads would roll and many things would change in the future. But whether it even originated and leaked from a lab itself was almost not investigated because people (mostly the same ones who are now pooh poohing the deliberate leak or even the accidental leak possibility) were desperate to whitewash such a chance.

But if, as I said, there is even a 1% chance it was a deliberate leak, the CCP would most certainly be not morons. They would be perpetrators of a massive genocide. It may be more insidious and less public than the pogroms of WW2, but it would be a genocide in no unclear terms.

The question is, why would anyone (here or elsewhere) be so eager to ignore such a possibility? Are they always eager to turn a blind eye to genocides?

Pessimist
05-25-21, 18:46
"Everything Screams Inflation: Investors are woefully unprepared for what may be a once-in-a-generation shift in the market": https://www.wsj.com/articles/everything-screams-inflation-11620163599?mod=article_inline.

"If Inflation Is Coming, Here Is What to Do About It: Investing to protect a portfolio against the likelihood of rising prices is harder than it looks": https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-inflation-is-coming-here-is-what-to-do-about-it-11620694235.

Both from the same author. Is he just trying to get more hits? Or some truth?Do you think the two articles you cited are contradictory? I see them quite aligned.

James Mackintosh is one of the better journalists at WSJ IMO.

In the first link, he rightfully observes that if inflation is real, it is being ignored (by central banks, pols) at a time when things which kept inflation down for 50 years such as globalization and demographics are coming to the end of their cycles.

In the second, he is telling WSJ readers "hey, if inflation does come, at least protect your nest egg by doing x / why / z".

The key question is whether Mackintosh is actually right in that inflation does spike up and how sustainably. Even the Fed has not denied it but called it transitory. CPI came at 4. % you last week, so it would be futile for Fed to deny CPI is high. They are just saying it will not stay high for too long. As of now, markets (bonds, equities, other) are less certain than the Fed on this matter.

Mursenary
05-25-21, 18:53
Each time I read you, I wonder if you're trolling since the beginning or if you're just totally nuts.

Believe me, no one of us will see the day when you can easily replace some body parts with cybernetic prosthetics or use nanorobots to fix I don't know what. It will remain science fiction stuff for a really long time.I agree with your assessment of the poster but not the science. We can already create simple organs and have the scaffolding and cell lineage to create more complex organs. Many synthetic organs implant have already been successfully performed. We're just in the lull of hammering out the nuts and bolts of more complex organs.

But yes, the poster's diatribes about quantum whatever remains far far away. Cybernetic limbs and synthetic prothetics however not only will be achieved in our lifetimes, some already have. Easiest example of complex prosthetics; cochlear implants that have been around for decades. Simple synthetic organ implants such as urinary bladders and tracheas have already been performed and common use is right around the corner as they just have to be made financially affordable to the public. Complex organs such as hearts, lungs, and cybernetic limbs will take a few more decades to iron out kinks but the science is already there.

McAdonis
05-25-21, 20:13
Do you think the two articles you cited are contradictory? I see them quite aligned.They did not seem contradictory. I only read the titles and bylines (behind paywall). With so many things competing for our attention, scarier headlines sell. If Mackintosh is persuasive enough in the first article (threat is real), then that should drive traffic to the second article (how to protect against the threat).


In the second, he is telling WSJ readers "hey, if inflation does come, at least protect your nest egg by doing x / why / z".Any useful advice offered?

BigBuddy69
05-25-21, 20:31
Cybernetic limbs and synthetic prothetics however not only will be achieved in our lifetimes, some already have. Easiest example of complex prosthetics; cochlear implants that have been around for decades. Simple synthetic organ implants such as urinary bladders and tracheas have already been performed and common use is right around the corner as they just have to be made financially affordable to the public.Well I was thinking more of cybernetic arms, eyes and so on. I don't think that we'll see in our lifetime something as effective as our natural limbs and organs, or even half as effective. They've been working on synthetic hearts for decades, for the moment it's just still a way to delay your death a little bit no? And plugging chips in human brains? Well I don't want to think at the risk of infections, or neurodegerenative diseases. I just had a look at your cochlear implants, how do they rate compared to ears in good condition? There was a scandal lately about some kind of 'prostethic nets for pussies' made to prevent the prolapse of I don't know which internal organs, it turned out to be a fucking disaster with women totally crippled for life. The only prosthetics I have are three teeth and I don't want to get any more.

Pessimist
05-25-21, 23:12
https://www.wsj.com/articles/inquiry-into-covid-19s-origins-splits-u-s-and-china-11621969480?mod=hp_lead_pos3

"A deeper inquiry into the pandemic's origins is "a critical priority for us," Andy Slavitt, the White House senior adviser for the Covid-19 response, said at a briefing Tuesday. "We need to get to the bottom of this and we need a completely transparent process from China. We need the WHO to assist in that matter. We don't feel like we have that now."

But those efforts are up against a push by China to have the WHO shift that probe into other countries, contending that the pandemic may have originated elsewhere.

Complicating matters, leading public health officials—including WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus —have called for a thorough investigation into whether the pandemic could have begun with a lab accident.

Anthony Fauci, President Biden's chief medical officer, was asked in a May 11 Senate hearing whether the Covid-19 virus could have escaped from a lab in Wuhan—home to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which conducted extensive research on bat-borne coronaviruses. He responded, "that possibility certainly exists and I am totally in favor of a full investigation of whether that could have happened. "

China strongly contests that such a lab accident is a plausible explanation for the pandemic. "

So, China even denies that it leaked out of their lab is not even plausible. Seems like we have a fair number of CCP acolytes doing their bidding here.

The China stance that this virus instead originated in the US is reminiscent of the US politics. GOP contending that January 6 is not the issue but that summer 2020 protests needed to be investigated; or that Russia probe should never have happened but instead Hunter needs to be investigated.

I admire Fauci but he lost some credibility. He jumped the gun last year a little too soon. I remember having a dispute w / some dude here about this matter. At least, to his credit, Fauci now sensibly is supportive of a proper investigation.

Ctytek
05-25-21, 23:31
do you really believe that being vaccinated protect you to get sick, I will not meet any prostitute before the pandemy is completely under control.Yes, I do really "believe" that being vaccinated protects me from getting sick. You know, there is this thing called "medical science", which operates on facts and not just a matter of what you "believe".

You are certainly free to wrap yourself in a full body condom and lock yourself in the basement for the rest of times.

Pessimist
05-26-21, 01:34
They did not seem contradictory. I only read the titles and bylines (behind paywall). With so many things competing for our attention, scarier headlines sell. If Mackintosh is persuasive enough in the first article (threat is real), then that should drive traffic to the second article (how to protect against the threat).

Any useful advice offered?Since most of the readers already paid the subscription, there is no specific advantage to driving traffic to one article v the other. In general, he has a good reputation. WSJ is normally center right, their news articles are informative but the opeds are very right leaning. The ideologue readers come to WSJ mostly for the opeds and then argue endlessly about political points in the comments section. Kinda like ISG. Articles by people like Mackintosh, Greg IP and others are technical and don't drive up reader passions much. Anyway, inflation onset is being debated for 5 to 6 months now, and his headline is not scary nor new. It is just that he wrote up this theme again after the 4% number came out. As for tips, the usual suspects about buying commodities and TIPS as hedges; but commodity index funds have already run up huge. DBC is one example (GSG, CCRV are some others). There are many others. TIP is the ishares TIPS ETF and that has already run up big amount as well.

Generally speaking, by the time some advice appears in WSJ, that particular idea has been priced in the market more often than not. Not always, but often enough. The ones writing for WSJ get paid a small fraction of what the traders do; the ones who have the information keep it to themselves and make money off it, not writing and sharing it w / others.

Mursenary
05-26-21, 03:20
Well I was thinking more of cybernetic arms, eyes and so on. I don't think that we'll see in our lifetime something as effective as our natural limbs and organs, or even half as effective. They've been working on synthetic hearts for decades, for the moment it's just still a way to delay your death a little bit no? And plugging chips in human brains? Well I don't want to think at the risk of infections, or neurodegerenative diseases. I just had a look at your cochlear implants, how do they rate compared to ears in good condition? There was a scandal lately about some kind of 'prostethic nets for pussies' made to prevent the prolapse of I don't know which internal organs, it turned out to be a fucking disaster with women totally crippled for life. The only prosthetics I have are three teeth and I don't want to get any more.Any neuro-prosthetic is for sure a much much longer time away. We don't even understand the mapping of the brain and it is the most individualized organ. Add that we barely know anything about consciousness and sentiency and yeah, preserving life in regards to the human brain may not be accomplished in our lifetimes.

But the rest are just nuts and bolts, although complex ones. In most cases, you are right to assume that artificial implants do not compare to optimal natural varieties. For the ear, the common deficit is quality of sound but sensitivity can be superior. Overall, that's probably a win for natural ears. The same can be said for all other organs mentioned, They are inferior, currently.

But remember that these things are in their infancy. The fact that we can even successfully accomplish the basic implant in itself is huge and I think takes it out of the realm of science fiction. I dare say that we are deep into the research phase and are having to deal with the long-haul engineering and troubleshooting phase.

Currently, the tech is not evolving like science fiction where an entire diseased heart is replaced by a totally artificial one (although stem cell-derived hearts have already been made on top of a cartilage scaffolding. It was even stimulated to beat indefinitely). The current technology can replace the lower chambers of the heart (France actually leads in this sector), valves, and of course the pacemaker. Piece by piece it is coming together. One of the major problems with artificial hearts is one you where the average person not think, it is the problems of blood clotting when it comes in contact with inorganic substances such as the plastics and other materials in these prothesis.

As for cybernetic limbs, obviously they are still behind and not like the arm seen in the Winter Soldier. But prosthetics that are neurologically linked are already out there. The newest developments in Sweden even allow for sensation. As all of the neuro-sensory issues are hammered out to more closely emulate fine motor control, obviously these limb prosthesis will be far superior in terms of strength and durability.

Point is, these things are not exactly science fiction. But we are talking about the real world, tangible applications, not the dreamland tech that the original poster writes about. They are topics in which he does not understand but uses to profess his "enlightened superiority". That's why in his posts you only see superficial mentioning of hotwords and key terms. Anytime there is any indepth discussion, his ignorance is revealed. Just like when a kid who didn't do his assigned reading for school can be easily outed because it was obvious that he just wrote a book report using the summary in the back of the book.

Thampi62
05-26-21, 05:30
For sure ASAP most of the FKK will reopen, but what will be the LU and more importantly do you really believe that being vaccinated protect you to get sick, I will not meet any prostitute before the pandemy is completely under control.I am not pessimistic sir. But I think It will haunt us for some more time (couple of years). So one have to get acclimatize with the situation. I feel it will be better to move parallel with the situation. I will definitly take some calculated risk. But the main worry is when everything will open at least half way before this pandemic.

PaulInZurich
05-26-21, 06:12
What does matter is that there is evidence and an investigation that should have been pursued but which was not. The problem is that China will never ever allow a proper investigation. The only goal of the CCP is to stay in power and bully anybody who questions any of their decisions.

ExpatLover
05-26-21, 09:52
I am not pessimistic sir. But I think It will haunt us for some more time (couple of years). So one have to get acclimatize with the situation. I feel it will be better to move parallel with the situation. I will definitly take some calculated risk. But the main worry is when everything will open at least half way before this pandemic.I am really wondering how you can take calculated risk, knowing that the virus could be present everywhere, hair, skin, body fluid, table, door handle, even inside the air of the FKK, to protect our self we should open 15 minutes every hour the door and windows, this is just impossible in a FKK. Vaccinations are showing some efficiency against the serious form of covid but will not prevent to get sick for many days or weeks as long you don t need a ICU bed, for Pfister, and all the others the vaccines are efficient.

ExpatLover
05-26-21, 09:55
Yes, I do really "believe" that being vaccinated protects me from getting sick. You know, there is this thing called "medical science", which operates on facts and not just a matter of what you "believe".

You are certainly free to wrap yourself in a full body condom and lock yourself in the basement for the rest of times.Advice you to look carefully about the documents provided by Pfister and others to get approved, vaccines prevent you around 50% not to need a ICU bed, but you can get seriously sick for days and weeks. Nevertheless everyone can choose is destiny, I will not taking any risk just to fuck a prostitute, just because I believe it is at very high risk. Just try to understand why so many doctors and nurses even vaccinated are getting sick.

HammerTime96
05-26-21, 11:01
Yes, I do really "believe" that being vaccinated protects me from getting sick. You know, there is this thing called "medical science", which operates on facts and not just a matter of what you "believe".So please explain the "science" behind these stories.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-infection-despite-vaccination-maybe-but-jabs-still-save-lives/a-57014640

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56992121

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but the narrative is once again being manipulated by Big Pharma, the media and the lying politicians.

Last year, vaccinations were pumped and promoted as 'stopping Covid19,' but now suddenly the narrative has shifted to 'you still get it, but you'll be LESS sick. ' Hahahahaha!

Please explain the "science" that fully 'vaccinated' people will still have to socially distance and wear your face diaper.

Pistons
05-26-21, 14:07
They would be morons in that case which is not impossible but it would make more sense that the viruses escaped from the lab.Geez! When Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage manage to escape from Alcatraz, do you really think microscopic viruses we cannot even see with the naked eye has any problems at all escaping a Chinese lab? How dumb are you really?

Pistons
05-26-21, 14:17
Believe me, no one of us will see the day when you can easily replace some body parts with cybernetic prosthetics or use nanorobots to fix I don't know what. It will remain science fiction stuff for a really long time.We can already make nanorobots, but it is costly at large scale. At least publicly. I haven't mentioned cybernetic prosthetics. Not sure why you mention that here, but I met a guy at the gym just 2 days ago who did 150 kg squats with one artificial leg and one normal leg. And it was certainly the artificial one holding him back he claimed! But I don't see the essence of transhumanism to replace limbs. It is far more a question of neuromorphic compute and censoring as well as memory links that will enhance the human experience. Imagine boosting certain hormonal stimuli to the brain 10 x, making you into true sex junkie! I bet some militaries would love this! Just project a front line of holographic strippers near the enemy base and send brain stimulus through zenneck waves to make them 20 times hornier. They wouldn't give a shit in regards to winning, and just stand there frozen while ejaculating!

Pistons
05-26-21, 14:20
Each time I read you, I wonder if you're trolling since the beginning or if you're just totally nuts.

Believe me, no one of us will see the day when you can easily replace some body parts with cybernetic prosthetics or use nanorobots to fix I don't know what. It will remain science fiction stuff for a really long time.I am just setting it straight!

Through Machiavellianism and the covid play, our entire world is currently being trolled!

Pistons
05-26-21, 14:30
The question is, why would anyone (here or elsewhere) be so eager to ignore such a possibility? Are they always eager to turn a blind eye to genocides?Very true! As I have posted a few times here before already, everyone should watch the Australian 60 minutes episode related to the Wuhan lab virus leakage! There they are 100% aligned with me and Pessimist on this. And the chance of it being more than a 1% chance of a government plot is very high given how the event unfolded!

Like always, I am right and the amateur gang here on ISG who claims to be doctors are in essence snake sacrificing Satanists!

Pistons
05-26-21, 14:41
Well I don't want to think at the risk of infections, or neurodegerenative diseases. I just had a look at your cochlear implants, how do they rate compared to ears in good condition? There was a scandal lately about some kind of 'prostethic nets for pussies' made to prevent the prolapse of I don't know which internal organs, it turned out to be a fucking disaster with women totally crippled for life. The only prosthetics I have are three teeth and I don't want to get any more.All these things will be modeled through the use of AI. As soon as we can emulate the entire body, a lot of the problems we see today will be fixed. The question is all related to how much computing power we need, as well as the software of course. But that usually matures around 5 years after the hardware arrives.

HammerTime96
05-26-21, 17:08
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-57234741


"Covid-19: First man to get jab William Shakespeare dies of unrelated illness"Note how the the BigBlackCock propaganda outfit label his death an "unrelated illness" LOL! Where is the autopsy report?


Mr Shakespeare, who had lived in Brownshill Green, was an inpatient on the hospital's frailty ward at the time of his first jab, and said it had been "wonderful".Wonderful! Hahahahaha! It's almost like a religious cult where the First Communion is replaced with a "jab!" 'Branch Covidian!' 'Corona's Witnesses!' LOL!

You die in a motorcycle accident, then you get labeled "Covid19" but you die 6 months after getting injected with an experimental vaccine then it's quickly labeled as "unrelated illness."

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020

This is how you are brainwashed and manipulated!

Go ahead suckers: line up for those "jabs" and die! The planet will be much better off, the global average IQ will go up, and there will be more pussy for the rest of us!

Mursenary
05-26-21, 18:05
So please explain the "science" behind these stories.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-infection-despite-vaccination-maybe-but-jabs-still-save-lives/a-57014640

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-56992121

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but the narrative is once again being manipulated by Big Pharma, the media and the lying politicians.

Last year, vaccinations were pumped and promoted as 'stopping Covid19,' but now suddenly the narrative has shifted to 'you still get it, but you'll be LESS sick. ' Hahahahaha!

Please explain the "science" that fully 'vaccinated' people will still have to socially distance and wear your face diaper.Looking forward to visiting Samya in the near future.

So happy to see things progressing and international travel opened up by May. These signs of normalcy with German cases falling below 50 per 100 K are very encouraging!

So glad to see the vaccines are helping put an end to the pandemic by reducing disease severity, giving the body some ammo to fight off the virus before the person becomes very ill while also reducing the time for which transmission is possible / likely.

In the mean time, fully vaccinated people who now have the tools to fight the virus can help reduce transmission by slapping on a mask and reducing asymptomatic spread. Hooray for humans who are not likely to suffer much from the disease itself, but opting to help society by preventing vulnerable from getting sick.

Miss you on the rants thread bud. I understand that it must be difficult to face your critics but no hard feelings. We all make mistakes!

Mursenary
05-26-21, 18:07
Geez! When Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage manage to escape from Alcatraz, do you really think microscopic viruses we cannot even see with the naked eye has any problems at all escaping a Chinese lab? How dumb are you really?He literally said that it was more likely that the virus escaped from a lab.

Pistons
05-26-21, 18:29
Autopsy? That's a joke isn't it? I believe the snake sacrificers at WHO have clearly advised against this! The Russians are however rumored to not giving shit at least, and found expanded veins full of clotted radioactive bacteria in many of the dead covid victims. I guess only time will tell how accurate Russian news reports are. But I would not be surprised.

The wannabe gang are worse than just religious cultists. They are depopulation agenda sheeples and brainwashed Satanists. And the funny thing is that they seem woefully unaware of it themselves! LOL!

Pistons
05-26-21, 18:31
And this is why I stick to my anti coagulation strategy. Taking sauna, be-vitamin, the-vitamin, onion oil and have aspirin ready in case I start feeling ill.

Mursenary
05-26-21, 18:38
Very true! As I have posted a few times here before already, everyone should watch the Australian 60 minutes episode related to the Wuhan lab virus leakage! There they are 100% aligned with me and Pessimist on this. And the chance of it being more than a 1% chance of a government plot is very high given how the event unfolded!

Like always, I am right and the amateur gang here on ISG who claims to be doctors are in essence snake sacrificing Satanists!Why some people never admit error:


The answer is related to their ego, their very sense-of-self. Some people have such a fragile ego, such brittle self-esteem, such a weak "psychological constitution," that admitting they made a mistake or that they were wrong is fundamentally too threatening for their egos to tolerate. Accepting they were wrong, absorbing that reality, would be so psychologically shattering, their defense mechanisms do something remarkable to avoid doing so they literally distort their perception of reality to make it (reality) less threatening. Their defense mechanisms protect their fragile ego by changing the very facts in their mind, so they are no longer wrong or culpable.

People who repeatedly exhibit this kind of behavior are, by definition, psychologically fragile. However, that assessment is often difficult for people to accept, because to the outside world, they look as if theyre confidently standing their ground and not backing down, things we associate with strength. But psychological rigidity is not a sign of strength, it is an indication of weakness. These people are not choosing to stand their ground; theyre compelled to do so in order to protect their fragile egos. Admitting we are wrong is unpleasant, it is bruising for any ego. It takes a certain amount of emotional strength and courage to deal with that reality and own up to our mistakes. Most of us sulk a bit when we have to admit we're wrong, but we get over it.

But when people are constitutionally unable to admit theyre wrong, when they cannot tolerate the very notion that they are capable of mistakes, it is because they suffer from an ego so fragile that they cannot sulk and get over it they need to warp their very perception of reality and challenge obvious facts in order to defend their not being wrong in the first place.

How we respond to such people is up to us. The one mistake we should not make is to consider their persistent and rigid refusal to admit theyre wrong as a sign of strength or conviction, because it is the absolute opposite psychological weakness and fragility.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201811/why-certain-people-will-never-admit-they-were-wrongLet me admit error as to at least attempt to not fall into this trap of prideful psychological fragility:

Over a year ago I was wrong. I thought that this virus would run its course in a few months, half a year max. Only looking at the pathology of the disease with what we knew at the time, I thought that it was a mere respiratory disease, easily controlled by modern medicine and sound public health. By summer 2020, we learned so much more, proving how wrong I was. While my ignorance to the full nature of the virus's pathologic process led me to make these poor assumptions, my biggest mistake was ignorance and optimism regarding human nature. It created a blindspot to the degree to which human pride can thwart human progress and our ability to surmount challenges at the population level.

BigBuddy69
05-26-21, 19:10
Are you also fucking nuts or what? That's the sex deprivation which drives you so crazy?

Mursenary
05-26-21, 19:24
A lot of varieties, but limited access LOL! It is like watch, but do not touch situation LOL! America should make most innovative brothel, but their religious belief and society norm forbid them, I wonder where that comes from?It's a country founded by English puritans and further populated by Catholic immigrants and the incorporation of the Spanish southwest. The church was the foundation of westward expansion towns and cities.

We're still a relatively new society where the people owed much of their survival to the resources of the church. As such, our society is not too far removed from the days in which social pressure from the church and churchgoers dictates your place in society. More cosmopolitan areas such as the Northeast and Pacific coasts are a little different but those areas are still bound to the social resistance of rest of the nation.

Mursenary
05-26-21, 19:30
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-57234741

Note how the the BigBlackCock propaganda outfit label his death an "unrelated illness" LOL! Where is the autopsy report?

Wonderful! Hahahahaha! It's almost like a religious cult where the First Communion is replaced with a "jab!" 'Branch Covidian!' 'Corona's Witnesses!' LOL!

You die in a motorcycle accident, then you get labeled "Covid19" but you die 6 months after getting injected with an experimental vaccine then it's quickly labeled as "unrelated illness."

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020

This is how you are brainwashed and manipulated!

Go ahead suckers: line up for those "jabs" and die! The planet will be much better off, the global average IQ will go up, and there will be more pussy for the rest of us!I guess any vaccinated person to die will now be linked to the horrible vaccine. Give it a rest and put down your fragile ego. We're making progress in ending the pandemic. It's okay to be happy even when you're wrong.

McAdonis
05-26-21, 22:14
I realize this site is full of CCP sympathizers and their apologists. But slowly the dialog is shifting to figuring out the true origin of this virus. The vicious backlash from CCP towards Australia with some CCP officials even mentioning nuclear weapons usage shows their defensiveness, and how edgy they continue to be. As of now, even the most strident CCP critics are staying with the accidental leak theory. At some point, if / when the lab origin of the virus is confirmed, the next question to be asked will be if the leak was accidental indeed or had the full blessing of Chinese admin / Xi.I assume you are referring to me (or Delta Indigo) as we are both by your definition "acolytes". I have zero issue with the accidental leak theory. Intentional leak is borderline. I mostly took issue with your contention that the virus was man-made. Saying the virus was not man-made is to me not a pro-China stance. It simply is a sentiment that China does not not have the scientific know-how to manipulate the virus in a manner that other virologists would not be able to detect the tampering.


That is the key point I was making -- that the view that the virus is man made and came out of a Wuhan Lab is effectively the view of US government at the moment. We can all disagree but it IS the US government view for now.Here are my words from May 2020. I do not believe I am attacking China, but I am not sure if it would classify as a pro-China stance either:


Scientists can look at the RNA in the samples to determine if it is man made or not, they need not go to Wuhan to make this conclusion. I agree that China is in the wrong for blocking investigations of the Wuhan labs. It suggests a possible cover-up. Maybe scientists did not follow proper safety protocols and caught the virus from infected animals, resulting in an accidental spread to the general population.
China is most likely hiding that there was some sort of accident at the lab. I posted a link from Dot Gov website, not some liberal rag. This link from the Director of National Intelligence states that the scientific consensus believes the virus is not man made.AFAIK, the current stance continues to be either zoonotic spillover or accidental leak. There is now more circumstantial evidence pointing to accidental leak. But back in May 2020, these were also the two prevailing theories:


"The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified. The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan."

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2112-intelligence-community-statement-on-origins-of-covid-19It seems to me that when someone does not 100 percent adopt and endorse your viewpoint, you apply labels, and are convinced that they have "fealty" to the opposing side. I tend to just look at the arguments presented. I suppose I might attempt to assess if the person I am debating is mentally stable. Otherwise, I do not care about the other person's profession, nationality, allegiances between posters, or who is agreeing with who.

About two years ago, there were a few senior posters who believed one poster was behind half the handles in the German FKK threads. Their belief was that this person was harvesting ISG handles (many of which had 1000 or more posts). And he was replying to himself using these different handles, and agreeing with his other fake handles to build "credibility". I was slightly skeptical, simply because I have a hard time believing someone could make posting on ISG their full-time job. And without conclusive evidence, I did not want to malign someone. I try not to read too much into another poster's intent or hidden agendas. If one person is indeed behind most of the handles on here, then there is even less reason to care about who is agreeing with who!

Also, I must come across as sneaky or as someone who is always up to something. If there is something about my writing style, that makes others impugn my motives, I welcome the criticism. The last debate I had with Cane (whites in Brazil), I remember him saying something along the lines of: "I knew that would be your next tactic". Anyway if I cherry-picked or pulled anything out of context, those quotes should be clickable.

Clodius1
05-26-21, 23:52
It's a country founded by English puritans and further populated by Catholic immigrants and the incorporation of the Spanish southwest. The church was the foundation of westward expansion towns and cities.

We're still a relatively new society where the people owed much of their survival to the resources of the church. As such, our society is not too far removed from the days in which social pressure from the church and churchgoers dictates your place in society. More cosmopolitan areas such as the Northeast and Pacific coasts are a little different but those areas are still bound to the social resistance of rest of the nation.The evangelicals are a broken, spent political force these days. The feminazis are the problem now. The USA is genuinely hopeless, better to remain apolitical and just collect those frequent flyer miles across the pond.

Mursenary
05-26-21, 23:52
Are you also fucking nuts or what? That's the sex deprivation which drives you so crazy?I've also noticed his declining mental health.

Clodius1
05-27-21, 00:01
Looking forward to visiting Samya in the near future.

So happy to see things progressing and international travel opened up by May. These signs of normalcy with German cases falling below 50 per 100 K are very encouraging!

So glad to see the vaccines are helping put an end to the pandemic by reducing disease severity, giving the body some ammo to fight off the virus before the person becomes very ill while also reducing the time for which transmission is possible / likely.

In the mean time, fully vaccinated people who now have the tools to fight the virus can help reduce transmission by slapping on a mask and reducing asymptomatic spread. Hooray for humans who are not likely to suffer much from the disease itself, but opting to help society by preventing vulnerable from getting sick.

Miss you on the rants thread bud. I understand that it must be difficult to face your critics but no hard feelings. We all make mistakes!There are news reports noting the efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna against the Indian mutation. Has anyone heard anything about the J&J and India variant yet? Unfortunately (or not), I did the J&J and now I'm in limbo when it comes to follow-up studies. Thanks.

Pessimist
05-27-21, 00:04
I assume you are referring to me (or Delta Indigo) as we are both by your definition "acolytes". I have zero issue with the accidental leak theory. Intentional leak is borderline. I mostly took issue with your contention that the virus was man-made. Saying the virus was not man-made is to me not a pro-China stance. It simply is a sentiment that China does not not have the scientific know-how to manipulate the virus in a manner that other virologists would not be able to detect the tampering.

Here are my words from May 2020. I do not believe I am attacking China, but I am not sure if it would classify as a pro-China stance either:

AFAIK, the current stance continues to be either zoonotic spillover or accidental leak. There is now more circumstantial evidence pointing to accidental leak. But back in May 2020, these were also the two prevailing theories:

It seems to me that when someone does not 100 percent adopt and endorse your viewpoint, you apply labels, and are convinced that they have "fealty" to the opposing side. I tend to just look at the arguments presented. I suppose I might attempt to assess if the person I am debating is mentally stable. Otherwise, I do not care about the other person's profession, nationality, allegiances between posters, or who is agreeing with who.I don't remember who is Delta Indigo. I know I had some arguments with you in the past but the ones who stick in my mind very negatively are Gino with the endless Asian entry ban and the more recent not even debate but back and forth insults with a certain slimeball.

If I was referring to you, I would have said so very clearly. As you know, I did throw unnecessary insult at you last week but then regretted it and apologized for it because you were not in the middle of it.

As for the rest of your argument: believe what you believe and if what you said in the past is consistent with the more recent developments, it is fine. Whatever you think, millions died from a virus that came from China and my point in the past, present and until it is proven in the future is this: it was never investigated properly. CCP certainly had a motive. Many people in the west were too eager to swallow CCP's lies and ridicule people who did not nod their heads.

"Here are my words from May 2020. " If those were all the words you said and nothing more, good for you. I don't know why I would have disputed you on whether it was zoonotic or not, given I have no bio background. I stick w / topics I know.

https://www.ft.com/content/57174621-3863-42b0-a39a-a36801fd7481

Now, Biden is also calling for a thorough investigation. Perhaps he is also a conspiracy monger. Fauci did a you turn. Apparently Fauci is out of favor in China and w / CCP now.

If you are behind the paywall for FT, below is a snippet from the above FT link:

"But questions over the institute's role resurfaced over the weekend after a report in the Wall Street Journal said that US intelligence agencies had concluded three researchers from the WIV fell ill with the disease in November 2019, a month before the first official case was reported.

Andy Slavitt, one of Biden's pandemic advisers, on Tuesday reiterated the US's demand for a more comprehensive international investigation.

That demand prompted an angry response from China, where state media described the lab leak hypothesis as "a conspiracy created by US intelligence agencies". "

Whether it was you or whoever attacked me last year pretty much implied I was a conspiracy monger. Now, CCP / China's state media is accusing US intelligence agencies of being conspiracy mongering because they too questioned the origin of the virus. I guess we can who is aligned with whose view here.

"I mostly took issue with your contention that the virus was man-made. " Oh? Did I say so categorically that it was definitely man made? Care to show me when I said so?

"Saying the virus was not man-made is to me not a pro-China stance. " Straw man. But more importantly, how did you ever know it was definitely NOT man made? Privy to some info that even US intelligence / Fauci not have?

"It seems to me that when someone does not 100 percent adopt and endorse your viewpoint, you apply labels, and are convinced that they have "fealty" to the opposing side. " Pure nonsense. But no doubt it will please the slimeball and his other pimp. As such, I did not even mention your name but you found some chip on some shoulder and came out swinging. If anyone is throwing around labels, here it is clearly you, McAdonis.

Get this: From the beginning my stance was that this was never investigated, people who suggested alternate explanations were plausible were instead ridiculed (as you are doing to me here, and no doubt your slimeball friend will do so again, and he has a few more attacking dog pimps in his pay); however, from the beginning it was obvious that the one who benefited the most was indeed China. Which is what I said then, if I remember correctly.

In Financial crimes they say "follow the cash trail". Or just "who has the motive". China benefited. It originated in China. Why did some people (whether it was you or others is irrelevant to me, but the fact is, people did) rush to give a clean chit to China and disagree vehemently that a man made virus intentionally leaked was an impossibility?

I again want to know, if this virus was deliberately leaked, it is nothing short of a global genocide. Why was there a rush, at least an inclination, to not demand a thorough investigation? In fact, are you now demanding a thorough investigation into this? Are your views aligned with Biden's and Fauci's?

Mursenary
05-27-21, 00:10
I assume you are referring to me (or Delta Indigo) as we are both by your definition "acolytes". I have zero issue with the accidental leak theory. Intentional leak is borderline. I mostly took issue with your contention that the virus was man-made. Saying the virus was not man-made is to me not a pro-China stance. It simply is a sentiment that China does not not have the scientific know-how to manipulate the virus in a manner that other virologists would not be able to detect the tampering.

Here are my words from May 2020. I do not believe I am attacking China, but I am not sure if it would classify as a pro-China stance either:

AFAIK, the current stance continues to be either zoonotic spillover or accidental leak. There is now more circumstantial evidence pointing to accidental leak. But back in May 2020, these were also the two prevailing theories:Same. The accidental leak seems to be very plausible. But the jump to human virulence does imply that human manipulation played a role.

Actual intent seems contradictory to China's game plan. They have been steadfast and steady for decades. See financial lending, third world infrastructure building, finding a key position in supply chains, sending all their students to nearly every leading nation's institutions of higher learning. Western economies were already on a steady decline compared to theirs. Divisions among western nations were already seeded. Bioweapon sabotage would undermine decades of precision game-planning.

Still, even if accidental, they bear large responsibility for the cover up. Even if the jump occurred naturally, they still bear responsibility for the cover up in December of 2019.


Also, I must come across as sneaky or as someone who is always up to something. If there is something about my writing style, that makes others impugn my motives, I welcome the criticism. The last debate I had with Cane (whites in Brazil), I remember him saying something along the lines of: "I knew that would be your next tactic". Anyway if I cherry-picked or pulled anything out of context, those quotes should be clickable.Agreed. I know you enough to not be that clever. Pussy! Then again, those sneaky ching chongs. Jkjkjk!

Pessimist
05-27-21, 00:11
The problem is that China will never ever allow a proper investigation. The only goal of the CCP is to stay in power and bully anybody who questions any of their decisions.Of course. But who will stop an investigation? Who has the strongest motive in obstructing an investigation? If someone was clean, why would they stop this?

Several millions already died officially, but clearly death tolls are hugely understated. The number of Covid deaths worldwide make it clear this was nothing but a massive genocide, if it was an intentional leak. Only one group, namely CCP, is stopping that investigation.

Mursenary
05-27-21, 00:16
There are news reports noting the efficacy of Pfizer and Moderna against the Indian mutation. Has anyone heard anything about the J&J and India variant yet? Unfortunately (or not), I did the J&J and now I'm in limbo when it comes to follow-up studies. Thanks.The WHO says so. No evidence to think otherwise.

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-vaccines-effective-against-all-known-variants-says-who/a-57600323

Mursenary
05-27-21, 00:25
The evangelicals are a broken, spent political force these days. The feminazis are the problem now. The USA is genuinely hopeless, better to remain apolitical and just collect those frequent flyer miles across the pond.Not so sure man. Politicians in the States still pander to the evangelicals. Even the most liberal politicians still would not dare declare a disbelief in a God, and certainly not the Christian God. We all know Trump isn't a religious man but he still courted all of the conservative evangelicals and nearly won a second time. I have no faith that Obama was religious either, but his team always made sure to show him at church around election season.

We're still decades behind Western / Northern Europe in regards to secularism.

Agreed that unbridled (American) liberalism may actually be the bigger threat going forward. On average, our people just don't have enough knowledge about world affairs to know any better.

Mr Ho
05-27-21, 00:25
It's a country founded by English puritans and further populated by Catholic immigrants and the incorporation of the Spanish southwest. The church was the foundation of westward expansion towns and cities.

We're still a relatively new society where the people owed much of their survival to the resources of the church. As such, our society is not too far removed from the days in which social pressure from the church and churchgoers dictates your place in society. More cosmopolitan areas such as the Northeast and Pacific coasts are a little different but those areas are still bound to the social resistance of rest of the nation.That explains a lot of things, but because of that people are pressured sexually among other things and go and shoot guns as it was also found with guns by killing native Indian people and also left the country divided as they also kidnapped African people and enslave them to build a country and never really apologized for it, but act as it was normal thing and now they are welcome kind of attitude as if they did it for them. Well I must say though comparison to 20th century a lot more equality is restored to USA and many part of the world.

So church is the reason behind sexual oppression in USA? That kind of make sense why many things are happening as it is happening in USA. I never get how one can put so much value on things that is written 2000 years ago, one can get inspire from it, but to base all your value is not a wise thing in my opinion.

But I also value myself on something that was created even few thousands years ago before that, naked young beautiful stunner LOL! I like to fuck them, that is my religion LOL and believe me, it is very peaceful hobby as after fucking them, the last thing I want is to have war with someone or fight LOL!

Pessimist
05-27-21, 01:26
Since you dug up some past posts, I clicked on the link you presented; below that, in one of my own comments I said this:

"I appreciate the political discourse and insightful lessons from you Delta. The point still remains (a) the origin of the virus is not established because China is blocking any investigation (b) consequently we also have zero clarity on how it spread and how much of the spread and leak was intentional and unintentional (c) yes, many countries are adversely impacted w. Are. T. Their economies, including China BUT some are impacted much worse than others, and so far the trends are that China is less impacted than its key geopolitical rivals. If you have proof to refute these points, please do present them. Whether China foresaw how the impact would work out and was prepared to sacrifice a few pawns to capture the Queen of its opponent, that I do not know but there is no proof to say such a thing didn't happen. I will let you put probabilities. "

I did see the name Delta Indigo. It has been a long time, I guess that man has not been posting here much, or at least I did not see his name, so I forgot about getting into an argument with him.

But my own comment is quoted above. That was then. I still hold the same exact view. What has changed though is that now the US government is also pushing that view. Here is Biden today:

"As of today, the USA Intelligence Community has 'coalesced around two likely scenarios' but has not reached a definitive conclusion on this question. Here is their current position: 'while two elements in the IC leans toward the former scenario and one leans more toward the latter -- each with low or moderate confidence -- the majority of elements do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other,' " Biden said in the statement.

Mursenary
05-27-21, 01:58
So church is the reason behind sexual oppression in USA? That kind of make sense why many things are happening as it is happening in USA. I never get how one can put so much value on things that is written 2000 years ago, one can get inspire from it, but to base all your value is not a wise thing in my opinion.

But I also value myself on something that was created even few thousands years ago before that, naked young beautiful stunner LOL! I like to fuck them, that is my religion LOL and believe me, it is very peaceful hobby as after fucking them, the last thing I want is to have war with someone or fight LOL!Religion is the nominal scapegoat that is the culprit in the US. More universally, it is social the pressure of the herd and the flock needing a shepherd. Basically many people find comfort in being a part of a pack with a leader. In our case, that mantle falls on the church, at least historically. But the mentality has already taken root despite people not being really all that religious.

Mursenary
05-27-21, 02:00
I don't remember who is Delta Indigo. I know I had some arguments with you in the past but the ones who stick in my mind very negatively are Gino with the endless Asian entry ban and the more recent not even debate but back and forth insults with a certain slimeball.Let the hate run through you. Feel it course through your veins. It gives me great pleasure. Whoops, just creamed my pants. Excuse me while I grab a towel.

Sirioja
05-27-21, 05:19
After Germany, France also now put under quarantine all UK, even vaccined or negative test, to try to protect versus Indian mutant highly spreading there despite vaccine high rate, when despite brexit, but UK are the closest to EU. Only Spain can t afford anymore to protect. EU put AZ in trial and stop with this vaccine.

Downandup
05-27-21, 07:33
Advice you to look carefully about the documents provided by Pfister and others to get approved, vaccines prevent you around 50% not to need a ICU bed, but you can get seriously sick for days and weeks. Nevertheless everyone can choose is destiny, I will not taking any risk just to fuck a prostitute, just because I believe it is at very high risk. Just try to understand why so many doctors and nurses even vaccinated are getting sick.This is real world data from the results of the British vaccination program, one of the most closely large population monitoring results out there. The western vaccines are unusually effective if not perfect, few other vaccines for other diseases are so good.

Adindas
05-27-21, 08:55
Last year, vaccinations were pumped and promoted as 'stopping Covid19,' but now suddenly the narrative has shifted to 'you still get it, but you'll be LESS sick. ' Hahahahaha!

Please explain the "science" that fully 'vaccinated' people will still have to socially distance and wear your face diaper.I am not aware any scientist ever claims "vaccinations will stop Covid19", vaccine will be 100% effective. If you have evidence, link please!!

What have you probably seen is that a tabloid exaggerating the news? Keep in mind, the editor of a the tabloid is highly likely not a health expert, or virologist.

Nowadays almost every child/ toddler (if not all) gets various vaccinations. The decision is made by their parents. It does not matter whether later in your life when become an adult you want to reject the vaccine. It is already in your body.

You do not need to be a genius to understand that vaccination will not stop people from getting infection. What it does is to significantly reduce the chance of getting infection. That is the value that we accept and or forced to accept since in our childhood.

BigBuddy69
05-27-21, 09:48
This is real world data from the results of the British vaccination program, one of the most closely large population monitoring results out there. The western vaccines are unusually effective if not perfect, few other vaccines for other diseases are so good.Problem is that lots of people (usually the grumpy and paranoid ones) still listen to the likes of our good French doctor Didier Raoult despite the fact that he has been proven wrong constantly since one year.

ExpatLover
05-27-21, 11:30
This is real world data from the results of the British vaccination program, one of the most closely large population monitoring results out there. The western vaccines are unusually effective if not perfect, few other vaccines for other diseases are so good.What I really will never understand, all the figures are looking very positive, efficiency is also there against the Indian variant but more and restriction are put on place for travelers from the UK or India. Why in Marseilles 400+ people already with the 2 doses are sick, why so many doctors and nurses vaccinated are getting sick and some are dying. For me all those vaccines are just as efficient as the normal flue vaccine but life must go on so better to make the people think in the directions of the governments want. Are you aware that all those labs were condemned for bribery.

McAdonis
05-27-21, 18:37
Same. The accidental leak seems to be very plausible. But the jump to human virulence does imply that human manipulation played a role.The way I interpret the below (removed middle part for sake of brevity): virologists do not yet possess the skill to develop a virulent virus from scratch; they can only take an already virulent virus and make minor tweaks to it. But SARS-CoV-2 does not closely resemble anything they have seen before. Is this not the general negative opinion many hold of Chinese? They cannot develop anything themselves, they only know how to steal technology and make minor tweaks.

The devious ching-chongs could have randomly manipulated the genetic material, trying different combinations until they got lucky. I have no idea what kind of brute force effort or luck would be required. Would it be similar to digital encryption where it would take the fastest supercomputer a million years to crack 256-bit AES encryption?


To genetically engineer a new virus, scientists can combine pieces of viruses they’ve seen before. In the case of a genetically engineered coronavirus that was designed to infect humans, the bulk of its genetic material — its “backbone” — would come from SARS or a close relative, while the tools it used to infect cells would be grafted on. But the backbone doesn’t look like any disease-causing virus, and other key parts of the virus are new to science.

But, Garry said, the tip of the SARS-CoV-2 spike is unlike anything scientists have seen before, sharing only a single key amino acid with SARS. Modeling suggests that it shouldn’t be able to bind to human lungs well, but the new configuration is about as effective as the optimized SARS.

How SARS-CoV-2 acquired this unusual tip is still a mystery. But blaming it on genetic engineering overstates the abilities of scientists, Garry said. Guessing that these particular amino acids can bind to ACE2 so effectively is nearly impossible— there are 20 common types of amino acids, and tens of millions of ways to arrange them into a binding tip. It would be like if you looked out over the proverbial infinite monkeys with their infinite typewriters, guessed that a specific macaque would type out King Lear, and then picked the right animal.

“Nobody has that kind of insight into how the viruses evolve or cause disease,” said Garry. “You could randomly try to make changes, but we’re talking about thousands of years of trying pathogens out. I’ve been really lucky to know a lot of talented virologists, and they’re not clever enough to come up with a virus that’s quite this good at spreading.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-scientists-think-the-novel-coronavirus-developed-naturally-not-in-a-chinese-lab/.
Agreed. I know you enough to not be that clever. Pussy! Then again, those sneaky ching chongs. Jkjkjk!I will leave the leading questions and cross-examination of witnesses to someone like yourself, who is clever enough to think six moves ahead.

Mursenary
05-27-21, 19:24
Why in Marseilles 400+ people already with the 2 doses are sick, why so many doctors and nurses vaccinated are getting sick and some are dying.Anyone else hear about the 400+ sick vaccinated people in Marseille? Or the dying doctors and nurses?

McAdonis
05-27-21, 19:43
Are your views aligned with Biden's and Fauci's?Fauci simply says they need to investigate the matter further. His exact words when asked if it is possible that the virus is not naturally occuring: "That is a possibility". But he never quantifies how likely or unlikely he believes that possibility to be. Like most scientists, Fauci seems to not like being pinned down. If I am allowed to be pedantic, something can simultaneously be considered both possible and highly unlikely. For instance, one could say that it possible to win the lottery, but also realize that it is highly unlikely.

Apparently Fauci himself does not believe he flip-flopped according to what he told a reporter this Monday:


Some used Fauci's recent comments about the potential of a lab being the source of COVID-19 as a means of maligning his credibility. Fauci, however, denied he switched his stance on the origin, telling a reporter on Monday that he still believes it's a naturally occurring virus but since it can't be fully proven, he's open to investigating other theories.

https://www.newsweek.com/timeline-what-dr-fauci-has-said-about-wuhan-lab-covids-origins-1594698
In May 2020, Fauci does not speak with absolute certainty. He states that virologists are "strongly leaning" toward the virus being naturally occuring.


"There's two issues. If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats, and what's out there now it's very, very strongly leaning toward this virus could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated—the way the mutations have naturally evolved. A number of very qualified evolutionary biologists have said that everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that it evolved in nature and then jumped species"Biden says the the IC has coalesced around two scenarios: naturally occurring or lab accident. This is EXACTLY what the Director of National Intelligence said in May 2020. And what I concurred with in May 2020.

Pessimist
05-27-21, 21:14
Fauci simply says they need to investigate the matter further. His exact words when asked if it is possible that the virus is not naturally occuring: "That is a possibility". But he never quantifies how likely or unlikely he believes that possibility to be. Like most scientists, Fauci seems to not like being pinned down. If I am allowed to be pedantic, something can simultaneously be considered both possible and highly unlikely. For instance, one could say that it possible to win the lottery, but also realize that it is highly unlikely.

Apparently Fauci himself does not believe he flip-flopped according to what he told a reporter this Monday:

In May 2020, Fauci does not speak with absolute certainty. He states that virologists are "strongly leaning" toward the virus being naturally occuring.

Biden says the the IC has coalesced around two scenarios: naturally occurring or lab accident. This is EXACTLY what the Director of National Intelligence said in May 2020. And what I concurred with in May 2020.Everyone can judge if Fauci did flip and flop or not. He is an honorable man but even he will not admit a mistake publicly, few people do. Even the way you characterized his statements (I am too lazy to data check all your quotes), it was totally irresponsible on his part then to have (a) washed his hands off the matter by pointing to other virologists (b) even if that was a strong chance, it was not 100% chance and something that could be so egregiously horrible needed to be investigated to the last detail and not evading responsibility by pointing to the views of other virologists.

Since you are a scientist I believe, at least the slimeball implied it and also claimed the same status for himself (don't remember if his pimp was also a scientist), when you presented your scientific conclusions, did you do it with "I think X is almost 95% certain, probably 99% certain because that's what my gut tells me" (about Chinese authorities in this case) but whatever is the appropriate gut instinct in the proof you are presenting? QED.

So, there is a chance a genocide may have been committed. I don't know if it is 1% chance, 2% chance 0. 01% chance. Even back in May 2020, I had said "I will let you put the probabilities". Are you claiming it is 0% chance? If so, please present your evidence, and something more than whatever you think are commonsense arguments and gut instincts.

If it is a non zero chance, I want to know how you decided it is not worth pursuing and worth turning a blind eye to. You made some laughable excuse that because Hua Wei's business was killed in reaction to the Covid crime (it was not; Hua Wei was considered for entity list from 2019 itself, and Meng Wangzhou was arrested in 2018). In your view, a genocide and business sanctions on a criminal enterprise make it even stevens.

Even when a solitary murder is committed, are police expected to drop a lead because in their view, that lead is not very likely? But here, you kept arguing China was absolutely unlikely to have leaked the virus intentionally (note: a deliberate leak does not need to come from Xi himself. Could be a rogue element in the lab somewhere). In fact, it would be nice to hear that you are even supportive of a proper, open, no limit, investigation w / o the interference of the CCP thugs.

I don't have any doubt you will again be evasive as usual and pick and harp on some totally irrelevant point and play to your gallery. Anyway, that is your prerogative.

ExpatLover
05-27-21, 21:32
Anyone else hear about the 400+ sick vaccinated people in Marseille? Or the dying doctors and nurses?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ksZgwL7BA&ab_channel=IHUM%C3%A9diterran%C3%A9e-InfectionIHUM%C3%A9diterran%C3%A9e-Infection

It is from 10 of mai now it is 400+, just as a small reminder IHU Marseilles is the team which published the most on viruses and covid.

BigBuddy69
05-27-21, 21:40
Anyone else hear about the 400+ sick vaccinated people in Marseille? Or the dying doctors and nurses?The 400 figure comes from Didier Raoult, the famous French doctor who is always wrong and constantly craving for attention. And it's 400 infected or positive but they don't all have symptoms. The good doctor is carefully avoiding to say if they are really afflicted or not.

Rocky V
05-27-21, 21:58
Fauci simply says they need to investigate the matter further. His exact words when asked if it is possible that the virus is not naturally occuring: "That is a possibility". But he never quantifies how likely or unlikely he believes that possibility to be. Like most scientists, Fauci seems to not like being pinned down. If I am allowed to be pedantic, something can simultaneously be considered both possible and highly unlikely. For instance, one could say that it possible to win the lottery, but also realize that it is highly unlikely.

Apparently Fauci himself does not believe he flip-flopped according to what he told a reporter this Monday:

In May 2020, Fauci does not speak with absolute certainty. He states that virologists are "strongly leaning" toward the virus being naturally occuring.

Biden says the the IC has coalesced around two scenarios: naturally occurring or lab accident. This is EXACTLY what the Director of National Intelligence said in May 2020. And what I concurred with in May 2020.Precise and detailed as usual. However, I personally think we will never find patient 0 and know exactly where Covid originated. It may not even have originated in China, given its ability to transmit (via aerosol) and therefore spread exponentially around the world. For other types of viruses, identifying patient 0 is easier. E. g. The outbreak of Chapare virus in Colombia in 2020 was contained very well as soon as the virus acquired the ability to transmit from human to human. This is because that particular virus only transmits via contact and the spread is therefore much slower. I think they have even identified patient 0 now.

Rocky V
05-27-21, 22:04
What I really will never understand, all the figures are looking very positive, efficiency is also there against the Indian variant but more and restriction are put on place for travelers from the UK or India. Why in Marseilles 400+ people already with the 2 doses are sick, why so many doctors and nurses vaccinated are getting sick and some are dying. For me all those vaccines are just as efficient as the normal flue vaccine but life must go on so better to make the people think in the directions of the governments want. Are you aware that all those labs were condemned for bribery.In Europe you are, on average, 30 times more likely to be murdered than having a serious reaction to AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, just to put things into perspective.

Adindas
05-27-21, 22:18
Anyone else hear about the 400+ sick vaccinated people in Marseille? Or the dying doctors and nurses?

Oppps Only 400? and only a few dying doctors and nurses !!! lol. Considering millions of people have been vaccinated in France it should be more is it not??

I think I know what has happened. The nurses is getting jab by an infected patient using a special syringe from e.g., the patient private part. The vaccine is also very special as it comes directly from the patient private part. Other nurses then keeps getting jab by the doctors and other patients so they are all have been vaccinated.

Those who are sensible and have evidence that could stand scrutiny will see this as a golden opportunity to make money if the news has not been covered elsewhere.

Those who have evidence about 400+ sick vaccinated people or the dying doctors and nurses in Marseille sell news to the newspaper to make money.

Mursenary
05-27-21, 22:23
The way I interpret the below (removed middle part for sake of brevity): virologists do not yet possess the skill to develop a virulent virus from scratch; they can only take an already virulent virus and make minor tweaks to it. But SARS-CoV-2 does not closely resemble anything they have seen before. Is this not the general negative opinion many hold of Chinese? They cannot develop anything themselves, they only know how to steal technology and make minor tweaks.

The devious ching-chongs could have randomly manipulated the genetic material, trying different combinations until they got lucky. I have no idea what kind of brute force effort or luck would be required. Would it be similar to digital encryption where it would take the fastest supercomputer a million years to crack 256-bit AES encryption?

I will leave the leading questions and cross-examination of witnesses to someone like yourself, who is clever enough to think six moves ahead.The second half of the passage ignores one thing: The Shotgun Approach.

I've been out of the lab for over 10 years so am not up to date on the minutia of the current tech, but even back then, if you wanted to create a complimentary protein that binds to a receptor, it could be done by sequencing the amino acid chain with a specific region that has affinity for the receptor. While predicting how an amino acid chain would fold into its final protein form is quite a challenge, you would not have to do it with precision. Instead, you create numerous candidate amino acid chains containing that specific region, then you isolate the ones with affinity to the receptor using various methods such as tagging it with a fluorescent antibody. Once isolated, you just reverse sequence the corresponding DNA / rna sequence and insert it in your new virus using the most appropriate delivery vector for that virus. The rest is just the nuts and bolts of ensuring that your new virus expresses the protein. That's the theory anyway.

Anyway, the Chinese have the resources. Most state universities with a top tier microbiology department do. I just question why the Chinese would purposefully unleash a plan like that. Considering their new found formidable yet insecure position on the world stage, they had too much to lose to risk such a devious plan.

As for type of research they might have been conducting, all sorts of reasons exists. Outside of purposefully engineering a bioweapon, it could have even been an altruistic venture such as creating an inert protein that neutralizes the pathogenicity of a future SARS virus. After all, that region of the world have been dealing those types of endemics for quite a while, which each new strain having the potential for more severe disease. At any step leading to a final product, there could have been all sorts of steps from original virus to a final beneficial strand with intermediaries having unintended pathogenic properties. Such is the process of scientific development that the general public does not consider. It's sexier to go straight to the narrative of good versus evil, us versus them, rather than chalking things up to mere incompetence.

It's human nature to believe there is a plan devised by a more powerful authority. In a way it gives them comfort. It's much scarier for people to think that we are floating around with no plan or purpose. It's the basis of religion. Most people don't want to believe that they are insignificant.

Mursenary
05-27-21, 22:31
Precise and detailed as usual. However, I personally think we will never find patient 0 and know exactly where Covid originated. It may not even have originated in China, given its ability to transmit (via aerosol) and therefore spread exponentially around the world.Point of contention and a personal one as it affects my daily life with PPE requirements.

It's not actually aerosol. It's mainly droplet. By happenstance, it may become aerosolized temporarily under high pressure such as sneezes or medical respiratory devices.

Main point, it being a droplet disease, simple face coverings prevent most transmission. Transient aerosolization (becoming airborne) happens buy that's not the actual mode of transmission. All that focus on sanitizing surfaces and wearing full hazmat suits is quite a waste of resources. That is unless people are sucking the air from other people's sneezes or licking surfaces after an infected person recently just coughed on it.

Get vaccinated or just plop on a simple face covering and transmission would be negligible.

Mursenary
05-27-21, 22:53
Since you are a scientist I believe,He's not.


at least the slimeball implied it and also claimed the same status for himself (don't remember if his pimp was also a scientist)Former scientist. But weren't you the one who went on and on about how I'm *just* a lowly researcher? Respect and love to my research scientists out there!

But I'm not the type of slimeball that pledged "fealty" to another human in front of state or religious officials (perhaps both) only to betray the trust of the co-parent to his progeny. Shame on you, you sinner.

Slimeball, LOL. What a boomer word.

ShooBree
05-27-21, 23:04
Why would China release the virus?

I'm not saying that China did purposely release the virus, but let's have a look at the numbers.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-growth-annual

https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/gdp-growth

Let's see what's happening in the world, and the connection between Chinese vaccines, growing influence, PR victories and expensive loans.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-26/-comrade-xi-statue-serbia-wants-to-thank-its-friends-in-china

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/china-in-eurasia-hungary-montenegro-standish/31238707.html

https://apnews.com/article/sao-paulo-china-coronavirus-pandemic-business-global-trade-b455cc11c8a971fd1b72230e3b6be7b3

Pessimist
05-27-21, 23:13
OK here are two sets of statements from Fauci:

"If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, the scientific evidence is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated. Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that this virus evolved in nature and then jumped species," Fauci says.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd

And now; Dr Fauci in May 2021:

"I am not convinced about that," he added. "I think we should continue to investigate what went on in China until we continue to find out to the best of our ability what happened. ".

He continued: "Certainly, the people who investigated it say it likely was the emergence from an animal reservoir that then infected individuals, but it could have been something else, and we need to find that out. So, you know, that's the reason why I said I'm perfectly in favor of any investigation that looks into the origin of the virus."

Yes, entirely consistent. That is what MacAdonis says.

I am perfectly happy if Fauci changes his views. When new evidence comes in, a good scientist changes his views. But McA claims Fauci did not change his views. Do the two sets of statements above sound identical? To McA perhaps.

Here is McA's evasion: In May 2020 when I argued with you, the dispute was not whether it could have originated in a lab. You conceded it was not impossible then.

But McA maintained categorically that it was impossible that China deliberately leaked it. From Xi himself or a rogue actor. Period. Impossible. How did he know?

If a genocide occurred, however remote chance it might have been, we are supposed to go with the gut instinct of sino apologists that it is impossible for China to ever have taken such a rogue action. After all the regime that killed millions of their own citizens in past purges and who threatens Taiwan everyday and purged thousands in Tibet and Xinjiang, is incapable of such atrocity, as per these people. So, we should abide by the gut instincts of sino apologists and assume that a deliberate leak never happened.

However, there are people who would want to get to the bottom of this and not necessarily take the word of CCP rogue regime about a potential genocide. That unfortunately does not appeal to the sino apologists (whoever they may be).

Pessimist
05-27-21, 23:56
From the far rightwing rag aka MIT Tech Review:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/03/26/1021263/bat-covid-coronavirus-cause-origin-wuhan/

"It's important to know how the pandemic started, because after killing more than 2. 5 million people and causing trillions of dollars in economic losses, it's not over. The virus may well be establishing itself in new species, like wild rabbits or even house pets. Learning how the pandemic began could help health experts avert the next one, or at least react more swiftly.

We know that the payoffs of origin hunting are real. After the 2003 SARS outbreak, researchers started building up a big knowledge base about this type of virus. That knowledge is what turbocharged the development process for vaccines against the new coronavirus in early 2020.

One price of the politically charged atmosphere is that an entire year passed before WHO origins investigators got on the ground, arriving in January for a closely chaperoned trip. "It's a year later, so you have to ask what took so long," says Alan Schnur, a former WHO epidemiologist in China who helped track the original SARS outbreak. During that year, memories faded and so did antibodies, possibly erasing key clues. ".

Again and again, it comes back to the same thing: Who has an incentive to erase evidence of a crime? Who has the incentive to obstruct investigation? Why are so many sino apologists so supportive of that rogue regime, a regime that may have directly or negligently perpetrated a genocide? Why do these apologists have so little regard for human life but work super hard to absolve the rogue regime of any culpability?

(this is addressed to sino apologists, whoever they may be).

Mursenary
05-28-21, 00:34
Why would China release the virus?

I'm not saying that China did purposely release the virus, but let's have a look at the numbers.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-growth-annual

https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/gdp-growth

Let's see what's happening in the world, and the connection between Chinese vaccines, growing influence, PR victories and expensive loans.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-26/-comrade-xi-statue-serbia-wants-to-thank-its-friends-in-china

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/china-in-eurasia-hungary-montenegro-standish/31238707.html

https://apnews.com/article/sao-paulo-china-coronavirus-pandemic-business-global-trade-b455cc11c8a971fd1b72230e3b6be7b3Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional.

Hey, maybe they did release it intentionally. That cannot be 100% ruled out. But temporary economic growth when they were already in a position of strength and gaining favor with then Serbian Communist party hardly seems worth becoming more of a pariah to their geographic neighbors and to western nations, especially when it is completely contrary to their previous decades of power sequestration that was characterized by stepwise and precise methods.

Logic would suggest that if they were to commit an act of global mass murder, they would do it when they were either in a position of desperation or if they saw an opportunity to deal a finishing blow to their rivals. Neither of those were / are the reality.

Investigating the source is warranted. Demanding accountability is warranted. But accusing without proper evidence is just detrimental warmongering speak.

McAdonis
05-28-21, 01:40
The second half of the passage ignores one thing: The Shotgun ApproachVideo and transcript: https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T.

Creating the backbone of a virulent virus from scratch is virtually impossible. So the only known way to produce a new deadly virus inside of a lab is to use an existing backbone. The recycled backbone approach allows for two options.


Simply, there is just not enough knowledge about how to make a new virus that would also cause significant devastation, like SARS-CoV-2 has. So creating a new, deadly backbone is pretty much impossible. But there is another way the novel coronavirus could have been created in a lab, and that would be using an existing virus backbone or genetic sequence as a starting pointExisting backbone, option one: random additions, deletions:


They could've either quickly mutated it, or added and deleted parts of the existing virus. But additions and deletions in a virus leave a trace that can be pointed out pretty quickly, a little bit like removing a red brick from a wall and replacing it with a black brick.Existing backbone, option two, mutating an existing virus:


This is known as serial passage and acts in a similar way to selective breeding. Scientists are able to mimic evolution, to a degree. By forcing the virus to mutate over and over again into a potentially different form. This can be used to weaken a virus, which is how some vaccines have been made, or to strengthen a virus, say, by making it more transmissible.

But for this to work, the existing virus would have to show significant genetic similarity to the new virus. In fact, they would have to be almost identical. Yet Garry and his team found that the backbone for SARS-CoV-2 was strictly unique, differing significantly from other coronaviruses. The best candidate is RaTG13, a bat coronavirus with a 96% gene sequence similarity. .

Mursenary
05-28-21, 01:53
The 400 figure comes from Didier Raoult, the famous French doctor who is always wrong and constantly craving for attention. And it's 400 infected or positive but they don't all have symptoms. The good doctor is carefully avoiding to say if they are really afflicted or not.Yeah, just saw ExPat's video.

In summary, it broke down the roughly 9555 positive cases in what I assume to be found in that region from 7. Jan to 7. May. 350 of those were vaccinated with only 40 having had both jabs (not all 350). The video further goes on to breakdown the nature of the cases. His data suggests that the ratio of symptomatic cases and hospitalizations were the same when comparing vaccinated people with at least one vaccine dose to the unvaccinated population.

Giving the publisher of video the benefit of the doubt in regards to data accuracy since they did not cite sources; and ExPat the benefit in regards to the oversight of claiming that 400 people with 2 doses tested positive when only 40 had received both, the good news from the video was that of the the 9555 covid+ cases, only 40 were found in fully vaccinated people.

Of those 40, only 4 showed symptoms. That means that only 10% of fully vaccinated covid+ people even show symptoms. Unfortunately, it did not discuss the severity of symptoms in the fully vaccinated, so maybe 0% hospitalized?

In comparison, of the 9205 non-vaccinated covid+ cases, 8747 showed symptoms. That's a 95% chance of having symptoms when you are not vaccinated get infected compared to only 10% when you are fully vaccinated. That means getting vaccinated reduces your chance of showing symptoms by 9. 5 x.

Thank you ExPat for sharing such good news about vaccine efficacy!

P.S. I'm kinda impressed with myself for extracted the information from a video spoken and written totally in French. Bravo me.

Clodius1
05-28-21, 01:59
The WHO says so. No evidence to think otherwise.

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-vaccines-effective-against-all-known-variants-says-who/a-57600323Thanks for posting that DW link to the WHO report on J&J. Vielen Dank!

Pistons
05-28-21, 03:01
Patient 0 and patient 1 was found dead in a bat cave in Yunnan province in 2015. It was formerly a mining cave. This is a fact! Then the researchers (some Satanista) brought the virus samples from the cave to the Wuhan lab.

Pistons
05-28-21, 03:03
And there they ran the virus through the petri dish experiments multiple times in order to test different mutations. Thus speeding up the normal mutation process by tens of thousands of years. And at the end of the gain of function lab tests, we had covid19.

Pistons
05-28-21, 03:18
USA funded it:

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/shocking-us-gave-37-million-to-chinas-wuhan-lab-that-conducted-coronavirus-tests-on-bats/story/400831.html

And France (especially funded by billionaire Alan Mérieux) conducted the training of the researchers:

https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/310520/strange-saga-how-france-helped-build-wuhans-top-security-virus-lab?_locale=en&onglet=full

And we all know China did the whole coverup.

This is a true collaborative effort in order to both reduce the human population, create methods of control and implement a modern financial system aligned with modern and future automation, blockchain and AI technology.

Pessimist
05-28-21, 03:27
He's not.

Former scientist. But weren't you the one who went on and on about how I'm *just* a lowly researcher? Respect and love to my research scientists out there!

But I'm not the type of slimeball that pledged "fealty" to another human in front of state or religious officials (perhaps both) only to betray the trust of the co-parent to his progeny. Shame on you, you sinner.

Slimeball, LOL. What a boomer word.I have enormous respect for researchers, more so for the productive ones; and wish they would get paid more especially the ones doing truly fundamental research in academia. I have a couple of friends, extremely bright people, who spent years in lowly paid post doc roles. I did not insult you because you are a lowly researcher, I claimed you were a researcher and not a physician. That was a deduction. If I am wrong in my deduction, so be it.

I have no doubt I am a sleazeball myself for doing what I am doing, but I cover my tracks well and one can't be hurt by what they do not know. Not a rationalization, just a fact so far. And you would have more credibility with your insults if you demonstrated that you stayed loyal after 15+ years of marriage but you can't. From Gates and Bezos on, many men I respect have cheated; at least in my defense I am good in terms of my support and deeds otherwise.

Boomer. Whatever. In a year, you would have reached that status yourself and one of the things you pride most about yourself would be gone, forever. Poor baby.

Pistons
05-28-21, 03:35
There have however for years been a shift towards liberalizing and legalizing the p6 law. And even rewriting what constitutes a pimp. Mainly among the youth parties, as the divide between the young generation z and the boomers / get why seems to be a strong one in this case. That is how all the right wing parties shifted. And it seems to be the trend across the left side also, just that it takes longer there.

There is also a joke sentiment to everything related to Swedish politics sometimes. So being anti Swedish can even be an argument of itself when we see the swedes be naive.

Mursenary
05-28-21, 03:58
The way I interpret the below (removed middle part for sake of brevity): virologists do not yet possess the skill to develop a virulent virus from scratch; they can only take an already virulent virus and make minor tweaks to it. But SARS-CoV-2 does not closely resemble anything they have seen before. Is this not the general negative opinion many hold of Chinese? They cannot develop anything themselves, they only know how to steal technology and make minor tweaks.

The devious ching-chongs could have randomly manipulated the genetic material, trying different combinations until they got lucky. I have no idea what kind of brute force effort or luck would be required. Would it be similar to digital encryption where it would take the fastest supercomputer a million years to crack 256-bit AES encryption?

I will leave the leading questions and cross-examination of witnesses to someone like yourself, who is clever enough to think six moves ahead.To clarify, my gut instinct is that it actually does have a natural origin. I just meant to say that artificial engineering is *possible* if one were to take a Shotgun Approach to modifying an already evolved virus, not to create one from scratch.

I'll add my personal hunch of what I think actually happened leading up to December 2019, given all the probabilities and possibilities. Considering all of the other acquired traits of this virus (such as efficient human antibody evasion), it evolved naturally from animal to humans in a less pathogenic form. Over time, it acquired various traits that allowed it to infect the host without much harm to the host (That's parasite life 101). After some period of relatively dormant virulence, a more lethal strain eventually popped up in natural human circulation. At this point, it began its spread to God knows how far. (Donated blood in the United States from December 2019 already showed cases of SARS-CoV2 antibodies, which means that the virus was circulating around much earlier, at least since October 2019.)

The Chinese government or even maybe just the WIV itself likely had isolated the virus prior to the Wuhan outbreak and were likely already studying it. All of the other tidbits about labs leaks and bioweapons may be possible, but scientifically plausible? I'm not so sure. It could be just as likely that as the scientists in Wuhan were studying the virus, they became infected and jumpstarted the spread. Even this simple goof would cause to Chinese government to cover it up to "save face. " Given their history, protecting their image of control and competency is completely consistent with their modus operandi.

Gino02
05-28-21, 04:38
Well, we all know who in USA politically benefited from the Covid virus. So just follow the trail and you can easily find why half of the US politicians were against going after China all of last year. Funny that same half is now trying to come clean LOL.

Pessimist
05-28-21, 05:30
Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional..JB Hunt insures each of their truckers for a million. Often that is not enough. It is one of the largest trucking companies in the country. I think the average award in a serious accident against jB Hunt is a bit more than half a million dollars, as I recall. Serious accident but not death. And that half a million is averaged over several dozens of accidents, probably hundreds. If I recall right, each year, JB Hunt drivers are involved in causing a couple of dozen fatal accidents and the awards in those cases are much higher. If a young 40 year old high earning dad or mom is killed by a reckless JBHT driver, it ruins their family forever. Awards could be in dozens of millions in such instances. Sometimes these amounts are big enough that it impacts their quarterly earnings result.

What shall be the reparation for intentional or even more benign, reckless death of several million people around the world. Could be dozens of millions if accounted properly. Let me do the math: even an award of a million per capita for 5 million people means 5 trillion dollars.

If indeed this was deliberate, how is that not a crime against humanity? We tried Nazis at Nuremberg and later some were hung.

And no, we are only accusing the regime of culpably obstructing investigations. It is not an irresponsible accusation nor is it war mongering. Biden and Fauci had shut down prior investigation but now evidence is too damning, so they reopened it.

Accusing Chinese regime is not the same as being racist against Asian Americans or any Asians. The latter is reprehensible, the former is absolutely warranted.

One of the reasons we have NPT nuclear nonproliferation treaties is that dirt bombs may not fall into the hands of terrorists. Accidentally having nuclear bombs leak into the hands of rogue elements makes the leaker just as responsible as someone who sells the bomb to a terrorist. To the people who die in the bombing, it is no comfort to know that the bomb that killed them was obtained through an accidental leak and not through a greedy sale.

Pessimist
05-28-21, 05:35
Well, we all know who in USA politically benefited from the Covid virus. So just follow the trail and you can easily find why half of the US politicians were against going after China all of last year. Funny that same half is now trying to come clean LOL.What stopped Trump from really going after China in 2020? Other than coming up with Kung flu to appease his easily amused masses, he took zero action whatsoever. Too bad his thugs could not overturn the election for him on Jan 6.

Mursenary
05-28-21, 05:59
I have enormous respect for researchers, more so for the productive ones; and wish they would get paid more especially the ones doing truly fundamental research in academia. I have a couple of friends, extremely bright people, who spent years in lowly paid post doc roles. I did not insult you because you are a lowly researcher, I claimed you were a researcher and not a physician. That was a deduction. If I am wrong in my deduction, so be it.

I have no doubt I am a sleazeball myself for doing what I am doing, but I cover my tracks well and one can't be hurt by what they do not know. Not a rationalization, just a fact so far. And you would have more credibility with your insults if you demonstrated that you stayed loyal after 15+ years of marriage but you can't. From Gates and Bezos on, many men I respect have cheated; at least in my defense I am good in terms of my support and deeds otherwise.

Boomer. Whatever. In a year, you would have reached that status yourself and one of the things you pride most about yourself would be gone, forever. Poor baby.I have all the room to talk because I knew to not make that empty promise in the first place. Making promises you can't keep is nothing to be proud of dude.

If you can lie to the person you most love, your life partner, your teammate, you can lie to anyone. That is why you're the type that can't be trusted, ever. 15 years of marriage and a lifetime of infidelity. Yet here you are, calling someone else a slime ball. Your words have no meaning. You're just another cookie cutter, life by the recipe, color by numbers, corporate dork.

Nah man, the older I get, the better I get. Except that damn shoulder. Bugger's been giving me fits! Anyway, I'm getting some salt and pepper grays on the side. It looks great!

The thing I most pride myself are my personal relationships. Honest relationships. Mutually beneficial relationships. Entertaining relationships. Unique Relationships between people with interesting life experiences and worldviews. You on the other hand seem to be a generic slave of corporate institutions with a low "interesting human" factor. A blah human. In fact, that would be the best name for you, Blah. As in, no real personality. Certainly no character, no interesting hobbies, no interesting stories, no interesting experiences, no interesting points of views. Just a Blah human living a Blah life with Blah expectations. The movie American Beauty comes to mind when I imagine how boring your miserable life must be.

Have a good day Blah. Or a Blah day, whatever.

Mursenary
05-28-21, 06:18
Video and transcript: https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T.

Creating the backbone of a virulent virus from scratch is virtually impossible. So the only known way to produce a new deadly virus inside of a lab is to use an existing backbone. The recycled backbone approach allows for two options.

Existing backbone, option one: random additions, deletions:

Existing backbone, option two, mutating an existing virus:See my addendum that posted after your reply. The original just explained how China could feasibly have modified a more virulent virus if that was the intention. I agree that evolution in nature and circulation is the more likely course. Isolating the virus and causing a local lab leak in heavily populated Wuhan is also entirely plausible. Manipulation of a less virulent strain found in nature is also possible. Like your paper states, there are many adaptations in the virus that likely developed during normal circulation in a population. The spike protein however seemed inconsistent with expectations, hence the Shotgun Approach theory, I. E. Selective Kitchen Sink.

But again, refer to my reply for my actual suspicions.

Pistons
05-28-21, 11:25
There have however for years been a shift towards liberalizing and legalizing the p6 law. And even rewriting what constitutes a pimp. Mainly among the youth parties, as the divide between the young generation z and the boomers / get why seems to be a strong one in this case. That is how all the right wing parties shifted. And it seems to be the trend across the left side also, just that it takes longer there.

There is also a joke sentiment to everything related to Swedish politics sometimes. So being anti Swedish can even be an argument of itself when we see the swedes be naive.Why am I getting censored so heavily? This is ridiculous!

Rocky V
05-28-21, 13:03
Point of contention and a personal one as it affects my daily life with PPE requirements.

It's not actually aerosol. It's mainly droplet. By happenstance, it may become aerosolized temporarily under high pressure such as sneezes or medical respiratory devices.

Main point, it being a droplet disease, simple face coverings prevent most transmission. Transient aerosolization (becoming airborne) happens buy that's not the actual mode of transmission. All that focus on sanitizing surfaces and wearing full hazmat suits is quite a waste of resources. That is unless people are sucking the air from other people's sneezes or licking surfaces after an infected person recently just coughed on it.

Get vaccinated or just plop on a simple face covering and transmission would be negligible.Clinical precision, as usual!

BigBuddy69
05-28-21, 13:47
Kind of stuff which can happen when the anti vaxxers get totally freaking nuts:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/tennessee-woman-arrested-speeding-covid-19-vaccination-tent/story?id=77937352&cid=social_twitter_abcn#CS1-6.

Pistons
05-28-21, 16:43
Amateurs always go by gut instinct. This is another fact.

Mursenary
05-28-21, 18:33
If indeed this was deliberate, how is that not a crime against humanity? We tried Nazis at Nuremberg and later some were hung.If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?


And no, we are only accusing the regime of culpably obstructing investigations. It is not an irresponsible accusation nor is it war mongering.Perhaps you, but not the other.


Accusing Chinese regime is not the same as being racist against Asian Americans or any Asians.Who said it was?

Do better Blah.

Mursenary
05-28-21, 18:41
Why am I getting censored so heavily? This is ridiculous!Baby needs his binkie. Must have missed his nap.

Mursenary
05-28-21, 18:47
Amateurs always go by gut instinct. This is another fact.Not sure you know the meaning of the word fact.

Amateurs usually go by textbook protocol. That is a hallmark of novices. People not even on the field of play however often try to act like infallible experts. See "Armchair Quarterback".

Pessimist
05-28-21, 20:35
If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?The person to whose butt you are so firmly attached claims the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Your own statements have been suspiciously supportive of the CCP regime in this thread. When a doofus claims no investigation is warranted because it could never have happened, then the claim "if it was indeed deliberate, we are supportive of holding them responsible" is useless. You will never establish the culpability w / o an investigation and McA's posts have not demanded any investigations but he has posted several comments justifying his view that the cuddly Xi regime could never have done that (and so have you).

It is fine if you guys feel some allegiance to some ancestral lands but that won't change the responsibility for the genocide perpetrated by those mass murderers if they had indeed leaked it deliberately. Even an accidental leak would mean they killed millions around the world through their sheer incompetence and negligence.

Anyway, it is useless to discuss these things with a street thug like you.

Pessimist
05-28-21, 20:58
If deliberate, who said it wouldn't be?

Perhaps you, but not the other.

Who said it was?

Do better Blah.And as usual, you (and MCA. Just as I predicted0 are evasive. The question was about reparations. You made the claim that some reparations are warranted and in the past, your solution was that in return for the crime of murdering millions around the world, China should give a vaccine (that does not even work) for free. McA of course came up with his "they already suffered enough because Hua Wei was punished' theory. Unreal.

Pessimist
05-28-21, 22:00
I have all the room to talk because I knew to not make that empty promise in the first place. Making promises you can't keep is nothing to be proud of dude.

If you can lie to the person you most love, your life partner, your teammate, you can lie to anyone. That is why you're the type that can't be trusted, ever. 15 years of marriage and a lifetime of infidelity. Yet here you are, calling someone else a slime ball. Your words have no meaning. You're just another cookie cutter, life by the recipe, color by numbers, corporate dork.

Nah man, the older I get, the better I get. Except that damn shoulder. Bugger's been giving me fits! Anyway, I'm getting some salt and pepper grays on the side. It looks great!

The thing I most pride myself are my personal relationships. Honest relationships. Mutually beneficial relationships. Entertaining relationships. Unique Relationships between people with interesting life experiences and worldviews. You on the other hand seem to be a generic slave of corporate institutions with a low "interesting human" factor. A blah human. In fact, that would be the best name for you, Blah. As in, no real personality. Certainly no character, no interesting hobbies, no interesting stories, no interesting experiences, no interesting points of views. Just a Blah human living a Blah life with Blah expectations. The movie American Beauty comes to mind when I imagine how boring your miserable life must be.

Have a good day Blah. Or a Blah day, whatever.Oh brother. Well, you got one thing right, I am pretty happy to be boring. Most people have boring, normal lives. You appear to be one of those dysfunctional people who lives on the edge and thinks borderline kooky behavior makes you look interesting. You will only spiral down in life. And what fucking relationships do you have? With the hookers you bang for 50? I bet you get sentimental and have endless chats with the WGs in the clubs and thinks that implies they love you. Hint: they don't. It is just a pre-sales pitch for their next heist on you; I would not be surprised if you love all the Asian hunters too.

Considering you worship the CCP regime, it is certainly strange that you think corporations are slave owners. Well, in our case, we are a small sized firm in the scheme of things, but America runs on its corporations. By your definition, most Americans are slaves and some slave owners. And yet you love the CCP. Interesting.

Speaking of old movies, you remind me of the Anne Hathaway character in Rachel Getting Married: high on drugs (check), borderline psychotic (check, but more than borderline), and destroying everyone in their family (most likely, if you are being honest but you will not be), and thinks her / his life is interesting (if being a street thug is interesting).

Pistons
05-29-21, 01:40
Enjoy the facts:

https://youtu.be/8h2h3HNTnIc

This guy is summing up quite a few things I have posted here for a very long time now! So I will just save you some time given he complied a couple of dousin good sources into one good video!

Ofcourse China Uncensored is a anti Chinese youtube channel. But it is mainly 80-90% correct in all they fish up. Including this report. Or especially this report. Weather or not Peter Daszak was in on the leakage and planned it alongside the French businessman and a couple of Chinese among others is not something he can rule out though. But given the political stance of the channel, he has to. But it clearly is a bioweapon even if some people in all of this had no idea.

As always I am right and the Satanists are wrong (even if they are woefully unaware of being satanists themselves).

Fauci also lied:

https://youtu.be/tvomW4IkPN0

Again, all politics. Machiavellianism. And the idiots eat it for breakfast every time! Suddenly when things are 'debunked' (LOL what a word), the sheeples come up and nearly admit it. Just not totally. But the dick cutter snakes sacrificers here might just as well start. At least since there is not much of a dick they can cut off on themselves anyway.

Mursenary
05-29-21, 03:04
Oh brother. Well, you got one thing right, I am pretty happy to be boring. Most people have boring, normal lives. You appear to be one of those dysfunctional people who lives on the edge and thinks borderline kooky behavior makes you look interesting. You will only spiral down in life. And what fucking relationships do you have? With the hookers you bang for 50? I bet you get sentimental and have endless chats with the WGs in the clubs and thinks that implies they love you. Hint: they don't. It is just a pre-sales pitch for their next heist on you; I would not be surprised if you love all the Asian hunters too.

Considering you worship the CCP regime, it is certainly strange that you think corporations are slave owners. Well, in our case, we are a small sized firm in the scheme of things, but America runs on its corporations. By your definition, most Americans are slaves and some slave owners. And yet you love the CCP. Interesting.

Speaking of old movies, you remind me of the Anne Hathaway character in Rachel Getting Married: high on drugs (check), borderline psychotic (check, but more than borderline), and destroying everyone in their family (most likely, if you are being honest but you will not be), and thinks her / his life is interesting (if being a street thug is interesting).Pretty happy with my friends and family. And yeah, I also love dem ho's.

No kooky behavior, my life stories and experiences makes me interesting. No eccentricity needed.

You think "cookie cutter corporate dork is just a criticism of corporations? No dude, it's a criticism of your Blah personality. I'm a capitalist and an entrepreneur, corporations are fine by me. People who let the corporate mindset sink into their personal lives? Well those are slaves. Dude, you're a slave.

You seem to be able to think from only one perspective, your profession. Your mind only has one level. Anyway, the emphasis was the word "dork". You're just a boring dork who can only see society from one single angle shaped by your very boring thoughts and experiences. In millennial girl terms, they would call you a Basic.

I don't watch a lot of Anne Hathaway movies. No clue what you're referencing. But I'll assume it was quite a zinger from a Anne Hathaway fanboy. How was the Devil Wears Prada? Did it tickle your inner Basic.

A Blah Man is just a Basic B. Go put on your Yoga pants and have a Starbucks. Make it Pumpkin Spiced.

Mursenary
05-29-21, 03:55
The person to whose butt you are so firmly attached claims the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Your own statements have been suspiciously supportive of the CCP regime in this thread. When a doofus claims no investigation is warranted because it could never have happened, then the claim "if it was indeed deliberate, we are supportive of holding them responsible" is useless. You will never establish the culpability w / o an investigation and McA's posts have not demanded any investigations but he has posted several comments justifying his view that the cuddly Xi regime could never have done that (and so have you).
Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional.

Hey, maybe they did release it intentionally. That cannot be 100% ruled out.

Investigating the source is warranted. Demanding accountability is warranted. But accusing without proper evidence is just detrimental warmongering speak.
The second half of the passage ignores one thing: The Shotgun Approach.

*science passage. blah blah blah*

Anyway, the Chinese have the resources. Most state universities with a top tier microbiology department do. I just question why the Chinese would purposefully unleash a plan like that. Considering their new found formidable yet insecure position on the world stage, they had too much to lose to risk such a devious plan.

Can't speak for McA, even though that would be quite unlike him to make such a definitive statement regarding unknowns, but I certainly never claimed the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Also pretty sure that I never said that the CCP could not have done it. In fact, I've posted a pretty lengthy retort to McA that said that they were capable. Saying that is unlikely because it would not be in the greatest long term interest and would also be against their modus operandi is a very different point. Did I imply that no investigation was warranted? Pretty sure the exact opposite actually.


It is fine if you guys feel some allegiance to some ancestral lands but that won't change the responsibility for the genocide perpetrated by those mass murderers if they had indeed leaked it deliberately. Even an accidental leak would mean they killed millions around the world through their sheer incompetence and negligence.LOL, I'm not even Chinese. I'm Thai American. That's like asking if you have some allegiance to Athens or Sparta.

Then again, this is consistent with your previous tendency to paint an entire group of people as the enemy. Even innocent people who have nothing to do with your admitted biases. Instead of merely criticizing, you have a tendency to paint people as the enemy, warmongering.


For once, I agree with you 100%. France needs to be tougher. All these Muslims went to France because they wanted to, France did not abduct them from the ghettos they lived in their home countries. If they can't put up with their mullah and allah ribbed a little, they should have stayed in their homeland ghettos. The weird thing is that at least a majority of the Muslims in France must be aghast at these atrocities committed by their Islamic brothers, but as usual, they always keep quiet but raise their heads only when their beloved prophet is insulted. France should round these barbarians up and ship them back to their homeland. That is one action I would be fully supportive of.Evasive? Me?


And as usual, you (and MCA. Just as I predicted0 are evasive. The question was about reparations. You made the claim that some reparations are warranted and in the past, your solution was that in return for the crime of murdering millions around the world, China should give a vaccine (that does not even work) for free. McA of course came up with his "they already suffered enough because Hua Wei was punished' theory. Unreal.Oh you know, those sneaking slanty eyes. It must be built in to my nature. Evasive about what? Why don't you just answer the questions? Who said that deliberate release wouldn't be a crime against humanity? Who said anything about holding the CCP accountable would be racist? Pretty sure my criticism of the CCP and holding them accountable was pretty fair. Never even said that they should supply the inferior Sinovac vaccine. But you tell me:


But facts are facts and the Chinese government made things worse than it could have been. Instead of being assholes about it, it would behoove the nation to accept responsibility. And since their economy is the only major power to not substantially suffer, I would say some financial repercussion would be in order. At the very least, they could supply vaccines for free to every nation that needs it and wants it.
Obviously they have benefitted. Their attempts at burying the story late in 2019 should result in reparations to the world of some sort whether the source was zoonotic, accidental, or intentional.

Investigating the source is warranted. Demanding accountability is warranted. But accusing without proper evidence is just detrimental warmongering speak.I think my criticism of the CCP and Chinese people has been pretty clear.


Hell Japanese and rich Chinese are some of the most racist people in the world. Heck, you have called me a brown monkey yourself..
Can't forget the Chinese either. As the Chinese middle class grows, they are quickly becoming known to travel in large packs while on holiday and be absurdly unaware of how their noisiness disturbs the ambiance. I remember being in serene locales in Vietnam and Portugal only to have the majesty of the natural surroundings ruined by busloads of Chinese tourists invading like locust. Ugh, they're the worst.

Even the Vietnamese government had to ban Chinese tourists at one point, citing "uncivilized" behavior. When a third world country calls a nation's people uncivilized, there's a problem.
Even this simple goof would cause to Chinese government to cover it up to "save face. " Given their history, protecting their image of control and competency is completely consistent with their modus operandi.Daaayyuum Boomer, did you call me a thug? I love your word choices! Hahahaha. I'll take this as a compliment. But despite this, here you are, restarting it all by calling me a slime ball out of the blue even when I purposefully laid off of you. You just can't resist. I guess every Basic B_itch likes a bad boy. "Baby because I'm a thug. ". -Trick Daddy,2001.

https://youtu.be/rotWBW9af_Q?t=78



Anyway, it is useless to discuss these things with a street thug like you.

Mursenary
05-29-21, 05:19
The person to whose butt you are so firmly attached claims the chance of it being deliberate is 0%. Your own statements have been suspiciously supportive of the CCP regime in this thread. When a doofus claims no investigation is warranted because it could never have happened, then the claim "if it was indeed deliberate, we are supportive of holding them responsible" is useless. You will never establish the culpability w / o an investigation and McA's posts have not demanded any investigations but he has posted several comments justifying his view that the cuddly Xi regime could never have done that (and so have you).

It is fine if you guys feel some allegiance to some ancestral lands but that won't change the responsibility for the genocide perpetrated by those mass murderers if they had indeed leaked it deliberately. Even an accidental leak would mean they killed millions around the world through their sheer incompetence and negligence.

Anyway, it is useless to discuss these things with a street thug like you.You keep using that word genocide. But are you sure you know what it means? I wasn't aware that a specific ethnicity, religion, culture, or nationality was targeted. Pretty sure people from a wide range of nations and ethnicities have died.

But I guess the word genocide does illicit some pretty nasty feelings and serves your intent of creating an us versus them scenario. Warmonger.

Mursenary
05-29-21, 05:45
Guys, he's kind of a big deal.

His apartment smells of rich Mahogany. He has many leather bound books. He's kind of a big deal.

https://youtu.be/Hzx8KHjQD6c?t=15


As always I am right and the Satanists are wrong (even if they are woefully unaware of being satanists themselves).
I, Pistons should be head of center for disease control. In any country for that matter.
Do it the natural way, and call on Pistons! He'll chug some willow bark, and be ready to go, like the superhero he is!

Coming up with new words or spellings is what real intellectual alphas do all the time.

I do it all the time.
Like I have written here before. I change paradigms.
Me: an Alpha who calls anyone anything he likes. (Such as Zews; Because it looks superior).
I am an expert in media and information.

Canary
05-29-21, 07:03
More good news from the UK showing that the Vaccines really do work even with the Indian variant.

Only two people have died with the Indian variant after receiving both vaccinations, suggesting the jabs are playing a major role in preventing serious disease, even for the mutated strain.

UK health authorities say despite 5,599 cases of the Indian variant in the UK, just 12 people have died, of whom only two had been fully vaccinated.

Just 3% of infections were in people who had received both doses, with nearly 73 per cent of all cases in unvaccinated people, and 24% infected who had just one dose.

Of 201 people who ended up in hospital with the Indian variant, just five people had been fully vaccinated.

NiteRiderCal
05-29-21, 09:20
To give some perspective, way back in 2005, I take the envelope of HIV and combine it with a SIV core to create a SHIV. And grew massive amount of it in bioreactor. The purpose was to study HIV env in monkey to create a vaccine. The technology have come a long way in the last 15 years.

Now doing something like that you have to have respect for what the virus can do and to protect yourself and the general public. There need to be a culture of safety at the BLS facility to make this kind of work safe. For example, if I or anyone make a mistake, we feel very free to speak up and not fear ANY repercussion. Hey everyone look at me, I fuck up. That way everyone can take appropriate precaution.

Been Asian myself, I think that Asian culture in general (especially Chinese culture) is not good for this type of work. There is a pressure to not get out of line, not fuck up. And to sweep it under the rug. You get punish for stepping out or fucking up. Growing up in the west and knowing both cultures, I say this is a competitive advantage of the west.

Anyway, what most likely to happen is. They was doing gain of function research. Someone fuck up. That person hide it. Got themselves and their family sick. And you know the rest. Having say all of this. I think dr geert vanden bossche might be right. If he is right, the world is fucking up on a massive scale with covid vaccination. I personally will not take this vaccine.

Pessimist
05-29-21, 13:26
Pretty happy with my friends and family. And yeah, I also love dem ho's.

No kooky behavior, my life stories and experiences makes me interesting. No eccentricity needed.

You think "cookie cutter corporate dork is just a criticism of corporations? No dude, it's a criticism of your Blah personality. I'm a capitalist and an entrepreneur, corporations are fine by me. People who let the corporate mindset sink into their personal lives? Well those are slaves. Dude, you're a slave.

You seem to be able to think from only one perspective, your profession. Your mind only has one level. Anyway, the emphasis was the word "dork". You're just a boring dork who can only see society from one single angle shaped by your very boring thoughts and experiences. In millennial girl terms, they would call you a Basic.

I don't watch a lot of Anne Hathaway movies. No clue what you're referencing. But I'll assume it was quite a zinger from a Anne Hathaway fanboy. How was the Devil Wears Prada? Did it tickle your inner Basic.

A Blah Man is just a Basic B. Go put on your Yoga pants and have a Starbucks. Make it Pumpkin Spiced.Haha, you are interesting to who? Your other fake handles that agree with you here on this site? You do seem to have populated yourself a few times. Your admiration for CCP has been quite clear as is a visceral hatred for White Americans, whether you are Thai or Chinese or whatever. Do the Asian hunters tell you they love Thai food, is that why you squander your precious few dollars on them and then sleep in the car? (One wonders why you don't like girls of your own kind, not very pretty for your eyes or is that a revenge factor at work? That must have been quite a sob story high school experience, your life choices are still being driven by those days. Listen, you are a kook and thug just based on the way you lash out at every second member on this site. Enjoy your 40th birthday, grandpa. Apparently you are already going bald and grey, and a beer tummy will not be far behind a bum shoulder. Don't worry though, the Asian hunter will still take your money and confirm that you are "interesting " in her own English.

Pistons
05-29-21, 13:43
For example why did Dr. Shi Zhengli, who clearly is a well educated expert now in regards to gain-of-function lab testing, and headed this effort at the Wuhan virology lab send parts of the work over to level 2 and level 3 labs? Where some ignorant scientists of course got infected? If that is not one more smoking gun that it was planned to leak, I don't know!

Pessimist
05-29-21, 17:51
You keep using that word genocide. But are you sure you know what it means? I wasn't aware that a specific ethnicity, religion, culture, or nationality was targeted. Pretty sure people from a wide range of nations and ethnicities have died.

But I guess the word genocide does illicit some pretty nasty feelings and serves your intent of creating an us versus them scenario. Warmonger.I guess you must be retarded. Genocide has to be of one specific race or ethnicity only? Hitler killed millions of Jewish people, Poles, Catholics, Russians, Romany, and on and on. He pretty much had no regard for any lifeform that was not his ideal Aryan and with enough time and power would have wiped out all human life from this planet except his own kind. Tell each of those groups that Hitler did not commit genocide because he also killed other people. CCP likes to do today what Hitler tried then; except, they also killed millions of own citizens in their purges.

You keep defending your CCP overlords and then deny that you admire their handiwork. OK then. The only us v them is those who are trying to take the CCP thugs to task and the slimeballs defending the genocide of CCP.

Our healthcare analyst is ethnic Chinese. One of the nicest gentlemen, super bright and educated. Nothing like you. You keep trying to include other people in your little bandwagon to feel secure, even when it comes to online flame wars. Must be the Bsian beta man in you.

Sirioja
05-29-21, 18:32
More good news from the UK showing that the Vaccines really do work even with the Indian variant.

Only two people have died with the Indian variant after receiving both vaccinations, suggesting the jabs are playing a major role in preventing serious disease, even for the mutated strain.

UK health authorities say despite 5,599 cases of the Indian variant in the UK, just 12 people have died, of whom only two had been fully vaccinated.

Just 3% of infections were in people who had received both doses, with nearly 73 per cent of all cases in unvaccinated people, and 24% infected who had just one dose.

Of 201 people who ended up in hospital with the Indian variant, just five people had been fully vaccinated.But after UK mutant, Germany and France prefer now to put UK under 15 days quarantine, Bo Johnson probably not being anymore reliable enough for EU, even Spain can t afford anymore to protect. Not even test needed for French for a day in Germany.

Mursenary
05-29-21, 19:03
I guess you must be retarded. Genocide has to be of one specific race or ethnicity only? Hitler killed millions of Jewish people, Poles, Catholics, Russians, Romany, and on and on. He pretty much had no regard for any lifeform that was not his ideal Aryan and with enough time and power would have wiped out all human life from this planet except his own kind. Tell each of those groups that Hitler did not commit genocide because he also killed other people. CCP likes to do today what Hitler tried then; except, they also killed millions of own citizens in their purges.

You keep defending your CCP overlords and then deny that you admire their handiwork. OK then. The only us v them is those who are trying to take the CCP thugs to task and the slimeballs defending the genocide of CCP.

Our healthcare analyst is ethnic Chinese. One of the nicest gentlemen, super bright and educated. Nothing like you. You keep trying to include other people in your little bandwagon to feel secure, even when it comes to online flame wars. Must be the Bsian beta man in you.Facts:


genocide

noun: genocide; plural noun: genocides

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group

Origin
Genos (Greek): race
-cida (Latin) : kill

https://www.google.com/search?q=genocide&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS769US769&oq=genocide&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i433j46i433j0i433l2j0.1660j1j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
What an angry elf. You must be from the South Pole.

Mursenary
05-29-21, 19:25
Haha, you are interesting to who? Your other fake handles that agree with you here on this site? You do seem to have populated yourself a few times. Your admiration for CCP has been quite clear as is a visceral hatred for White Americans, whether you are Thai or Chinese or whatever. Do the Asian hunters tell you they love Thai food, is that why you squander your precious few dollars on them and then sleep in the car? (One wonders why you don't like girls of your own kind, not very pretty for your eyes or is that a revenge factor at work? That must have been quite a sob story high school experience, your life choices are still being driven by those days. Listen, you are a kook and thug just based on the way you lash out at every second member on this site. Enjoy your 40th birthday, grandpa. Apparently you are already going bald and grey, and a beer tummy will not be far behind a bum shoulder. Don't worry though, the Asian hunter will still take your money and confirm that you are "interesting " in her own English.Oh Blah, I get it, you hate being wrong. This must be quite frustrating to have the paper trail repeatedly prove you wrong.

I understand your sentiment though, we both look down on each other. The difference is that you look down with disdain. I do so with pity and disgust.

Pistons
05-30-21, 08:34
Guys, he's kind of a big deal.

His apartment smells of rich Mahogany. He has many leather bound books. He's kind of a big deal.

https://youtu.be/Hzx8KHjQD6c?t=15I will start an Onlyfans soon!

Pistons
05-30-21, 08:37
Just so that tiny willy guys can get even more frustrated.

Pistons
05-30-21, 08:42
Given how you managed to collect so many of my quotation gems, you could almost be one of my disciples. If you had a bigger dick.

Downandup
05-30-21, 10:00
But after UK mutant, Germany and France prefer now to put UK under 15 days quarantine, Bo Johnson probably not being anymore reliable enough for EU, even Spain can t afford anymore to protect. Not even test needed for French for a day in Germany.It's the Indian variant that's now the concern as it is spreading through the unvaccinated population faster than other variants. Yet Spain is begging UK tourists to come back.

ExpatLover
05-30-21, 11:42
It's the Indian variant that's now the concern as it is spreading through the unvaccinated population faster than other variants. Yet Spain is begging UK tourists to come back.Are you so sure that vaccinated people are not spreading anymore the virus? Even Moderna explain on Friday that the will be more variant around in the coming years. I am convinced that the vaccines from today will not be used in 2 years.

Sirioja
05-30-21, 12:32
It's the Indian variant that's now the concern as it is spreading through the unvaccinated population faster than other variants. Yet Spain is begging UK tourists to come back.Yes Indian mutant spreading now in UK and after UK mutant spread on beginning of the year in EU, so Germany first, followed by France, don t want to experience again same spreading, even not good for our business, for tourism in France and complicated about channel, but already too many deaths. Germany already forbid UK few months ago about UK mutant. English football teams couldn't play in Germany.

Canary
05-30-21, 14:42
It's the Indian variant that's now the concern as it is spreading through the unvaccinated population faster than other variants. Yet Spain is begging UK tourists to come back.Don't worry Downandup, it seems to me that Sirioja is on another planet!

Pistons
05-30-21, 19:17
Reports from Vietnam is that the Indian and British versions have kinda fused together. Meaning they have the mutations from both of them. I bet it happened in India and not in Vietnam though. But they hardly have much control in India, so there may soon be even more.

And this hybrid has like 8 or 9 mutations in the spike alone then I assume? (Just guessing here since I'm lazy right now). Wonder how inefficient the vaccines are against this one.

Mursenary
05-30-21, 20:31
Given how you managed to collect so many of my quotation gems, you could almost be one of my disciples. If you had a bigger dick.Ugh, bring back Pessimist. I already have visual confirmation that this one's completely beneath me.

Sirioja
05-30-21, 22:30
Don't worry Downandup, it seems to me that Sirioja is on another planet!Not my decision, but Germany twice on this year and even France when complicated about channel tunnel.

Ararat
05-30-21, 23:12
Given how you managed to collect so many of my quotation gems, you could almost be one of my disciples. If you had a bigger dick.Normally when a person is faced with such collection of one's own quotes the reaction would and should be to accuse the other poster of selectively quoting or taking things out of context.

You on the other hand seem to think the quotes are flattering.

BigBuddy69
05-31-21, 07:15
Normally when a person is faced with such collection of one's own quotes the reaction would and should be to accuse the other poster of selectively quoting or taking things out of context.

You on the other hand seem to think the quotes are flattering.That's a common feature among the most severely afflicted serial posters of this board: they don't understand 2nd degree, underlying messages, they don't realize that they are constantly embarrassing themselves and they are keen on self quoting.

Mursenary
05-31-21, 18:48
The bride and the bridesmaids are also sexy (better faces than miss titties). But holy shit, this music is a total disaster.

And as a side note, I wonder how McA finds this kind of videos on YouTube. Does he search for 'Turkish wedding big tits'?The algorithm sees snd knows on.

(Maybe part of the reason the kooks on the rants thread always seem to find videos by other kooks.).

Pessimist
05-31-21, 19:38
Facts:

What an angry elf. You must be from the South Pole.Hmm. You must have used up both of your brain cells to look up genocide / s. Impressive. You can copy / paste.

According to this "genius", all that the CCP has to do to not be called genocidal is to murder millions of multiple sets of people around the world. Retarded is indeed the right word to describe you.

Pessimist
05-31-21, 19:39
Ching Chongs? Nice. Is that like members of a certain ethnic group allowed to use and-word to each other but the rest of us will lose our jobs for saying it? I thought you were just a Thai anyway. Perhaps you are automatically granted honorary access to the insider status due to your CCP slavishness.

Is there any group you have left out? Women are cunts and Karens, gays are faggots and worse, Chinese are now Ching Chongs and on and on. And here, I'm getting trashed for saying the CCP goons caused genocide and for demanding deportation of throat slitting Islamic thugs out of Europe. Hypocrite is your middle name, Fucking is the fist name, we all know Slimeball is your last name.

Pessimist
05-31-21, 19:40
Oh Blah, I get it, you hate being wrong. This must be quite frustrating to have the paper trail repeatedly prove you wrong.

I understand your sentiment though, we both look down on each other. The difference is that you look down with disdain. I do so with pity and disgust.Blah man? So lame. You never amounted to much but at least could be counted on for a good insult once in a while. Now, the best you can do is blah man. Pity. Seems like you are losing your edge and aging in dog years now, fast sliding into senility.

What happened to your attack pimps? Don't see them much, anymore. Did you forget the passwords to your fake handles? Try resetting them. You badly need a show of support to feel secure, Bsian!

Pistons
05-31-21, 22:00
Normally when a person is faced with such collection of one's own quotes the reaction would and should be to accuse the other poster of selectively quoting or taking things out of context.

You on the other hand seem to think the quotes are flattering.He must have done an extremely poor job analyzing me if he thought those quotes was anything but flattering. Of course they are. I made about a dousing posts with those quotes at the center. LOL.

But given his weird psychology links all the time, it doesn't surprise me that he is confused.

Mursenary
06-01-21, 00:35
Blah man? So lame. You never amounted to much but at least could be counted on for a good insult once in a while. Now, the best you can do is blah man. Pity. Seems like you are losing your edge and aging in dog years now, fast sliding into senility.

What happened to your attack pimps? Don't see them much, anymore. Did you forget the passwords to your fake handles? Try resetting them. You badly need a show of support to feel secure, Bsian!The best insult is usually the most accurate one Blah.

Mursenary
06-01-21, 01:34
Hmm. You must have used up both of your brain cells to look up genocide / s. Impressive. You can copy / paste.

According to this "genius", all that the CCP has to do to not be called genocidal is to murder millions of multiple sets of people around the world. Retarded is indeed the right word to describe you.Man,

All I have to add is that originality and creativity is hard to coach. Figure it out. You a grown man.

Pistons
06-01-21, 02:59
That's a common feature among the most severely afflicted serial posters of this board: they don't understand 2nd degree, underlying messages, they don't realize that they are constantly embarrassing themselves and they are keen on self quoting.No no, believe me. This is a clash of civilizations! Any Scandinavian with a brain would have caught onto the meaning of all the posts he just quoted. I didn't think Americans were that backwards, but clearly he is. Or is it the Thai or Asian subculture? I am not sure. Either way, I can't stop laughing!

Pistons
06-01-21, 03:23
Actually the English here should get the meaning also.

PaulInZurich
06-01-21, 06:32
Are you so sure that vaccinated people are not spreading anymore the virus? Even Moderna explain on Friday that the will be more variant around in the coming years. I am convinced that the vaccines from today will not be used in 2 years.Yes, quite sure that transmission risk is much lower from fully vaccinated people. There are enough real world studies now from Israel, UK and US. Current case rise in England is due to not yet (fully) vaccinated people, it affects much more younger people compared to before. It has been said before, sooner or later everybody gets impacted by the virus. Either you get vaccinated or you will catch it at some point. Good for you if won't have symptoms when you catch it, but at minimum you will pass it on to others.

And yes, vaccines will be updated in time, booster shots will be available towards the end of the year, trials are already in progress. Let's not forget that we have many countries with very low vaccination rates outside Europe or US. Until the rest of the world gets enough vaccines the virus will be around. From a pure business point of view Pfizer, Moderna and other companies will make tons of money for years.

I find it interesting how in the US both sides are against a covid pass. I guess it will only impact them if they want to travel internationally.

Mursenary
06-01-21, 07:24
He must have done an extremely poor job analyzing me if he thought those quotes was anything but flattering. Of course they are. I made about a dousing posts with those quotes at the center. LOL.

But given his weird psychology links all the time, it doesn't surprise me that he is confused.The lack of self awareness that is obvious to others is glaring.

ShooBree
06-01-21, 14:54
That's a common feature among the most severely afflicted serial posters of this board: they don't understand 2nd degree, underlying messages, they don't realize that they are constantly embarrassing themselves and they are keen on self quoting.I agree, it's hilarious that you don't realize how much you're embarrassing yourself.

ShooBree
06-01-21, 14:55
Normally when a person is faced with such collection of one's own quotes the reaction would and should be to accuse the other poster of selectively quoting or taking things out of context.

You on the other hand seem to think the quotes are flattering.I could quote your posts, but I wouldn't find any trip report or anything else relevant to the topic of this forum.

Mursenary
06-01-21, 15:39
Ching Chongs? Nice. Is that like members of a certain ethnic group allowed to use and-word to each other but the rest of us will lose our jobs for saying it? I thought you were just a Thai anyway. Perhaps you are automatically granted honorary access to the insider status due to your CCP slavishness.

Is there any group you have left out? Women are cunts and Karens, gays are faggots and worse, Chinese are now Ching Chongs and on and on. And here, I'm getting trashed for saying the CCP goons caused genocide and for demanding deportation of throat slitting Islamic thugs out of Europe. Hypocrite is your middle name, Fucking is the fist name, we all know Slimeball is your last name.If you weren't such a boomer dork I would say that your "firm" is a marketing firm. Your selective memory, baseless accusations, and / or purposeful manipulation of the paper trail is quite blatant. Shame on you for steering so far away from your STEM background. The lack of professional loyalty in addition to the already established unapologetic matrimonial infidelity is rather disappointing. I can't help but suspect that the decline in integrity of your recent posting style is affecting by your alliance with Pistons. Lay with stray dogs and you'll get fleas.

Do better Blah, do better. Elevate yourself from the cesspool.

ExpatLover
06-01-21, 16:23
Yes, quite sure that transmission risk is much lower from fully vaccinated people. There are enough real world studies now from Israel, UK and US. Current case rise in England is due to not yet (fully) vaccinated people, it affects much more younger people compared to before. It has been said before, sooner or later everybody gets impacted by the virus. Either you get vaccinated or you will catch it at some point. Good for you if won't have symptoms when you catch it, but at minimum you will pass it on to others.

And yes, vaccines will be updated in time, booster shots will be available towards the end of the year, trials are already in progress. Let's not forget that we have many countries with very low vaccination rates outside Europe or US. Until the rest of the world gets enough vaccines the virus will be around. From a pure business point of view Pfizer, Moderna and other companies will make tons of money for years.

I find it interesting how in the US both sides are against a covid pass. I guess it will only impact them if they want to travel internationally.Nice to see that you still believe in what all the big pharma are communicating, I repeat all were condemned for corruption and bribery. Sorry there is no serious study confirming that the vaccinated are less contagious, I have nothing against those vaccines but I am quite sure that there efficiency is like the one for the normal flue which is around 50% and that we will need to get new shots every year at least like for the normal flue why should it be different?

Mursenary
06-01-21, 18:47
I could quote your posts, but I wouldn't find any trip report or anything else relevant to the topic of this forum.Good thing we're coming out of a pandemic and this is a Rants thread.

Mursenary
06-01-21, 20:54
Zero COVID deaths in UK today despite Indian Variant now accounting for about 75% of new cases.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-reports-no-new-covid-19-deaths-3165-new-infections-2021-06-01/

Mursenary
06-01-21, 21:36
Nice to see that you still believe in what all the big pharma are communicating, I repeat all were condemned for corruption and bribery. Sorry there is no serious study confirming that the vaccinated are less contagious, I have nothing against those vaccines but I am quite sure that there efficiency is like the one for the normal flue which is around 50% and that we will need to get new shots every year at least like for the normal flue why should it be different?He mentioned the most important study, what we see in the real world. Cases are significantly down in most vaccinated countries. More importantly deaths are magnitudes less in all vaccinated countries.

And again, different from flu vaccine because SARS CoV-2 mutates much more slowly than slowly.

Sirioja
06-01-21, 22:20
Yes, quite sure that transmission risk is much lower from fully vaccinated people. There are enough real world studies now from Israel, UK and US. Current case rise in England is due to not yet (fully) vaccinated people, it affects much more younger people compared to before. It has been said before, sooner or later everybody gets impacted by the virus. Either you get vaccinated or you will catch it at some point. Good for you if won't have symptoms when you catch it, but at minimum you will pass it on to others.

And yes, vaccines will be updated in time, booster shots will be available towards the end of the year, trials are already in progress. Let's not forget that we have many countries with very low vaccination rates outside Europe or US. Until the rest of the world gets enough vaccines the virus will be around. From a pure business point of view Pfizer, Moderna and other companies will make tons of money for years.

I find it interesting how in the US both sides are against a covid pass. I guess it will only impact them if they want to travel internationally.UK are so safe that they are under 15 days quarantine for Germany and France when really difficult for France business. UK were already forbidden few months ago by Germany. Liverpool was not allowed to play in Germany.

PaulInZurich
06-01-21, 22:21
Nice to see that you still believe in what all the big pharma are communicating, I repeat all were condemned for corruption and bribery. Sorry there is no serious study confirming that the vaccinated are less contagious, I have nothing against those vaccines but I am quite sure that there efficiency is like the one for the normal flue which is around 50% and that we will need to get new shots every year at least like for the normal flue why should it be different?I am not disputing that new shots will be needed.

Everything else you say is just wrong, as always you never have any data to support your claims.

Pistons
06-01-21, 23:00
The lack of self awareness that is obvious to others is glaring.You have an extraordinarily small brain. I believe it could be a paralel to your micropenis.

Mursenary
06-01-21, 23:08
You have an extraordinarily small brain. I believe it could be a paralel to your micropenis.Your dick is tiny. A girl told me so.

See how that works?

Pistons
06-01-21, 23:09
Man,

All I have to add is that originality and creativity is hard to coach. Figure it out. You a grown man.It only is if you have a tiny brain. Creativity is something that has been highly studied in parts of Europe and USA. The funny thing is that the more you seem to be educated in a factory like manner, the less creative you become. In other words, the more you get brainwashed, the tinier your brain gets. And you are clearly an arch example in all of this as you have shown here again and again and again and again! BigB also seem to have a tiny brainwashed brain.

The Waldorf education method pioneered by Rudolph Steiner is one example of a training method that can be used in order to avoid the reduction of creative thinking as you develop your brain. Media studies too helps in reducing the negative impact of the standard brainwashing schooling system.

Mursenary
06-01-21, 23:31
It only is if you have a tiny brain. Creativity is something that has been highly studied in parts of Europe and USA. The funny thing is that the more you seem to be educated in a factory like manner, the less creative you become. In other words, the more you get brainwashed, the tinier your brain gets. And you are clearly an arch example in all of this as you have shown here again and again and again and again! BigB also seem to have a tiny brainwashed brain.

The Waldorf education method pioneered by Rudolph Steiner is one example of a training method that can be used in order to avoid the reduction of creative thinking as you develop your brain. Media studies too helps in reducing the negative impact of the standard brainwashing schooling system.Says the office worker who gets paid to make other men rich, having no streams of asset allocation other than his trade-time-for-money mentality. A slave without any skills, easily replaceable. How sad.

Angry, ugly, with no marketable skills is a terribly combination.

Pistons
06-02-21, 00:27
Says the office worker who gets paid to make other men rich, having no streams of asset allocation other than his trade-time-for-money mentality. A slave without any skills, easily replaceable. How sad.

Angry, ugly, with no marketable skills is a terribly combination.Typical mr. Micro: all assumptions. And of course all wrong. Like always.

PaulInZurich
06-02-21, 02:23
UK are so safe that they are under 15 days quarantine for Germany and France when really difficult for France business. UK were already forbidden few months ago by Germany. Liverpool was not allowed to play in Germany.You are a lost cause when it comes to reading comprehension, so this is for the benefit of others reading the thread. None of what you say is contradicting my statement.

Pistons
06-02-21, 02:45
By the way, creativity is usually defined as Divergent Thinking.

One famous study looked at a lot of kids at the age of 3, and then retested them as they grew older several times. The result was that the more the kids got brainwashed by societal norms of thinking, the less divergent and thus less creative they got. Hence societal and schooling based brainwashing.

One of the questions they gave these kids was for example:

- How many things can you use a paperclip to?

3 year olds could in average come up with over 200 different uses. Later this average number fell in inverse correlated to their schooling and aging in society. So they got dumber and less creative. Basically they were unable to look at a task from different angles. They didn't manage to change paradigms in ways of thinking.

This certainly puts into question the idea of feng shui. And it is the essence and root of the legend of Chinese people copying things instead of being creative and inventive. But of course given China's lagging start of industrialization, we cannot yet say for sure. We have to wait for China to catch up. But unless Feng shui is given the middle finger, and some of the central ideas behind the ccp changes, they might just be having a big problem in terms of creativity and divergent thinking. Which is also probably why rich Chinese sends their kids to western schools and universities. Though this normally has deeper roots that won't be fixed after 3 or 5 years at a western school.

PaulInZurich
06-02-21, 02:54
Nice to see that you still believe in what all the big pharma are communicating, I repeat all were condemned for corruption and bribery. Sorry there is no serious study confirming that the vaccinated are less contagious, I have nothing against those vaccines but I am quite sure that there efficiency is like the one for the normal flue which is around 50% and that we will need to get new shots every year at least like for the normal flue why should it be different?If you say there is no serious study, according to you where would serious studies be published? NEMJ, Lancet, BMJ or youtube videos uploaded by John RandomInternetUser?

Gino02
06-02-21, 04:34
Here we go again:

China reports human case of H10 N3 bird flu, a possible first (https://apnews.com/article/china-bird-flu-flu-health-b5862e1d9892b25fdb470abf30432289).

Beijing (AP) A man in eastern China has contracted what might be the world's first human case of the H10 N3 strain of bird flu, but the risk of large-scale spread is low, the government said Tuesday.

Sirioja
06-02-21, 06:02
Zero COVID deaths in UK today despite Indian Variant now accounting for about 75% of new cases.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-reports-no-new-covid-19-deaths-3165-new-infections-2021-06-01/Yes no death and very good point, but increasing Indian cases put them under 15 days quarantine, ranked as risky mutants for UK and Indian area. Only Spain or Portugal can t afford anymore to protect their citizens, because too poor now without tourism, but spreading could cost much.

ExpatLover
06-02-21, 06:19
He mentioned the most important study, what we see in the real world. Cases are significantly down in most vaccinated countries. More importantly deaths are magnitudes less in all vaccinated countries.

And again, different from flu vaccine because SARS CoV-2 mutates much more slowly than slowly.Have a look on the curbs of countries like UK, France, Israel. You will see that in mid 2020 there were going down more without vaccination, it is too early to see what are the real impacts of the vaccination, nobody can predict the future of any epidemic.

Ararat
06-02-21, 06:45
It only is if you have a tiny brain. Creativity is something that has been highly studied in parts of Europe and USA. The funny thing is that the more you seem to be educated in a factory like manner, the less creative you become. In other words, the more you get brainwashed, the tinier your brain gets. And you are clearly an arch example in all of this as you have shown here again and again and again and again! BigB also seem to have a tiny brainwashed brain.

The Waldorf education method pioneered by Rudolph Steiner is one example of a training method that can be used in order to avoid the reduction of creative thinking as you develop your brain. Media studies too helps in reducing the negative impact of the standard brainwashing schooling system.Oh, that explains it.

I thought you were mentally ill but if you have been attending Waldorf schools then the illness is part of the eternal nature or nurture question. Did your parents send you there because they're insane or did you become insane by going to one of those 'schools'?

Your grandiose self-image combined with your real life failures is prime school shooter territory.

Downandup
06-02-21, 06:59
UK are so safe that they are under 15 days quarantine for Germany and France when really difficult for France business. UK were already forbidden few months ago by Germany. Liverpool was not allowed to play in Germany.It's the Indian varient that is causing this, it is spreading far faster than the Kent variant and that means that it is sweeping through the unvaccinated, but the UK will reach 49% / 50% fully vaccinated today and 75% of adults will have had their first jab. More good news is that the current vaccines are still working very well against the Indian variant if not as well as against the other strains. It's only a matter of time before enough of the population is covered. Europe is catching up too. I do think that ending the current restrictions in less than thee more weeks is too soon but it won't need to be too much longer.

Sirioja
06-02-21, 07:40
It's the Indian varient that is causing this, it is spreading far faster than the Kent variant and that means that it is sweeping through the unvaccinated, but the UK will reach 49% / 50% fully vaccinated today and 75% of adults will have had their first jab. More good news is that the current vaccines are still working very well against the Indian variant if not as well as against the other strains. It's only a matter of time before enough of the population is covered. Europe is catching up too. I do think that ending the current restrictions in less than thee more weeks is too soon but it won't need to be too much longer.UK keep on own restrictions and Germany and France prefer to protect after experiencing previous mutant which killed too many of our citizens. I wish heat will help Spain and Portugal when they take Indian spreading risk.

BigBuddy69
06-02-21, 09:33
Everything else you say is just wrong, as always you never have any data to support your claims.It's a common feature among bitter grumpy trolls.

Mursenary
06-02-21, 16:47
Typical mr. Micro: all assumptions. And of course all wrong. Like always.Ugly was definitely not an assumption. Visual confirmation was obtained. Frankenstein's Monster. Good news, all you have to do is buy 2 bolts and fix them to the sides of your neck and you have an easy Halloween costume.

180 cm monster with a 10 cm cock. How unfortunate.

Mursenary
06-02-21, 17:01
Have a look on the curbs of countries like UK, France, Israel. You will see that in mid 2020 there were going down more without vaccination, it is too early to see what are the real impacts of the vaccination, nobody can predict the future of any epidemic.You said that a few months ago too. And here we are, 5-6 months of general decline in cases and more importantly consistent decline in deaths in the UK, USA, and Israel. Compared to EU countries that lagged in vaccinations, it took until April before getting to the peak.

Was that a coincidence? Hmmm. Good thing that the early vaccination countries didn't take the side of vaccine hesitancy.

BigBuddy69
06-02-21, 17:44
Good news, all you have to do is buy 2 bolts and fix them to the sides of your neck and you have an easy Halloween costume..Perfect for the next Halloween party in LivingRoom. Because now we have a leprechaun and the Frankenstein monster on this board. Maybe they'll get a free entrance?

ExpatLover
06-02-21, 18:24
You said that a few months ago too. And here we are, 5-6 months of general decline in cases and more importantly consistent decline in deaths in the UK, USA, and Israel. Compared to EU countries that lagged in vaccinations, it took until April before getting to the peak.

Was that a coincidence? Hmmm. Good thing that the early vaccination countries didn't take the side of vaccine hesitancy.Waiting you are a great believer in vaccines, I am more skeptical, just today Israel announced 250 cases of severe heard disease on young people being vaccinated with Pfister. There is no medicine without side effects. Politicians are scrupules as long as their power is concerned: Take the shot, close your mouth and business as usual. And please on top of that don t start to think you are here to obey and so many are following it.

Adindas
06-02-21, 21:07
In the past people are talking about dodge coin here. Does anyone here take part in AMC stock short squeeze?? Google it and see what people are saying.

Mursenary
06-02-21, 22:11
I think also in the US the situation is quite different between a highly paid software engineer living on the west coast or a retired guy in Florida or a farmer from Arizona or a single mum with 2 children in NY, so it is the same in Europe. In none competitive economies like France, Italy, Spain the prices are facing strong inflation but this is not true in Germany or eastern Europe. The crisis is bringing big changes like people selling the apartments in the city centres to buy a house outside the cities, home working means also less travel. In March 20 I invested strongly on the stock market with very good results 1 year later, crisis always are bringing opportunities. My real-estate investment from 2018 has triple the value, I am not desperately waiting the reopening of the FKK to fuck, sex is not forbidden and I would say for those who are not so stupid, a bit attractive and flexible the opportunities are like on the stock market or real-estate very important at least for me.Yes for sure individual situations matter. But behind all of the media hoopla in the States, I don't think individual situations have turned for the worse for the average person, yet. For now, the poorer class have been saved by the generous unemployment benefits. In addition to the normal unemployment payments, various economic relief packages have given them first an extra $600 per week, then downgraded to $400, and now $300. In addition they were given $3600 in stimulus payments over 3 distributions plus another $400-$600 per child three times. That's a decent bit of money for vast amount of people accustomed to making a lower wage; in many cases, it was more than they would normally make. These people have been given between $2000 to $3500 per month when they were accustomed to probably something along the lines of taking home $2000-$2500 per month after taxes. That is why American businesses are now having a hard time re-hiring employees. $10-$15 per hour, taxed, is not worth giving up the $500+ per week for doing nothing. At the next level, professionals have enjoyed decent job security as so many industries have been declared "essential." I think there is a subset of people that fall in an unfortunate sweet spot of making too much money to qualify for relief payments and not working in industries that were able to keep their finances above water.

The most affected here are the entrepreneurs of retail businesses and temporary / gig workers. But recent relief packages have provided large sums of money to small businesses as requirements have been relaxed. For example, the most recent package only required people to show bank statements from February 2020 and fill out a small amount of paperwork.

There are some who fell through the cracks or didn't bother to apply for the relief money, but most people here are not suffering like the media suggests. Those people would be young people who were just entering the workforce or businesses that were doing very well to the point that relief money actually equated to less income. In addition, some small chain businesses have had to close or large businesses have seen lower profit margins due to increased cost of operation due to rises in expenses due to supply chain disruptions. Many non-essential professional firms have also seen losses such as the legal sector or elective medicine.

We also initially saw the same real estate shifts to the suburbs and countryside but that has subsided and home prices in major cities have skyrocketed after the initial dip at the beginning of the pandemic.

In the end, the average American pocketbook has not been so negatively impacted. The recent boom in holiday travel and retail sector provides optimism but what happens going forward may however change all of this. With all of the new printed money and paradigm shifts in how people view the the relationship between their personal lives and their professional work priorities is in flux, no one can know for sure how the elephant in the room that is pending inflation will affect our society. It may all come crashing down. But for now, most people's financial health is not ruined, save some that slipped through the cracks and various individual situations.

I assume that the differences between European nations will not be as uniform as what is happening in the States as each nation's economies and response to the pandemic differ much more than the economies and policies between American States. I don't know how all of the various European nations handled the pandemic but my family in rural, northern Italy say that they are doing just fine. My friends with lower incomes in the Netherlands say that their finances are okay. My professional friends in London tell me that they have not financially suffered.

But the big question is how will the profit losses in each nation's numerous businesses and corporations affect the lives of individual people. How will the huge amounts of money printing in Western nations affect inflation and future cost of living? Are Europeans culturally seeing the same paradigm shift that many middle and lower-middle class Americans seeing?

Perhaps some others here know more about the specific situations in various European nations.

Mursenary
06-02-21, 22:16
In the past people are talking about dodge coin here. Does anyone here take part in AMC stock short squeeze?? Google it and see what people are saying.FOMO here as I took profits during the initial bump. But was a good day for people who were heavily invested in speculation and recovery companies.

Mursenary
06-02-21, 23:04
Waiting you are a great believer in vaccines, I am more skeptical, just today Israel announced 250 cases of severe heard disease on young people being vaccinated with Pfister. There is no medicine without side effects. Politicians are scrupules as long as their power is concerned: Take the shot, close your mouth and business as usual. And please on top of that don t start to think you are here to obey and so many are following it.Their is a risk-benefit in all of medicine. But educating myself on the background science, critiquing my sources, integrating the data with personal knowledge, and observing real world observations allows me to formulate an educated stance. If you come into a decision situation with previously constructed expectations, without the willingness to bend and incorporate new data, your own positions can always be reasoned with selective sourcing of "evidence".

Mursenary
06-02-21, 23:35
Perfect for the next Halloween party in LivingRoom. Because now we have a leprechaun and the Frankenstein monster on this board. Maybe they'll get a free entrance?They asked me to make the party flyer.

Pistons
06-03-21, 04:31
Oh, that explains it.

I thought you were mentally ill but if you have been attending Waldorf schools then the illness is part of the eternal nature or nurture question. Did your parents send you there because they're insane or did you become insane by going to one of those 'schools'?

Your grandiose self-image combined with your real life failures is prime school shooter territory.I never went there actually. But studies show the kids who do perform better in creativity tasks as they grow older.

PaulInZurich
06-03-21, 04:33
just today Israel announced 250 cases of severe heard disease on young people being vaccinated with Pfister....Any sources for that?

Pistons
06-03-21, 04:34
They asked me to make the party flyer.I'm impressed! But you need to do even more work if you want that disciple status we were discussing earlier!

Adindas
06-03-21, 07:17
FOMO here as I took profits during the initial bump. But was a good day for people who were heavily invested in speculation and recovery companies.

I am already part of the ape rabid community and will "HODL" it until it reaches $100+ (hyperbolism obviously). When it reaches that price, I might quit my current job and focusing more on puss1es hunting. Theoretically, it could reach $100k, but practically I personally do not believe, if it will ever reach near that price

Sirioja
06-03-21, 07:18
Ugly was definitely not an assumption. Visual confirmation was obtained. Frankenstein's Monster. Good news, all you have to do is buy 2 bolts and fix them to the sides of your neck and you have an easy Halloween costume.

180 cm monster with a 10 cm cock. How unfortunate.I was really not impressed by your look at LR, didn't see a NBA tall and when you were hidden in Bruggen couch whole evening, Lucifer didn't notice your look, even she was looking for business when she couldn't get me. And when I see your French bald friend here, I just think we can't experience same, some girls making free for me, but never free as he told.

Pistons
06-03-21, 13:57
with a 10 cm cock. How unfortunate.At 18 Sauna in Macau while getting a thigh massage from one of the Vietnamese masseuses in the lounge there, another one of them ran over with a meter stick trying to measure it. It went down slightly as the pro masseuse left it over to the girl with the meter stick, but I clocked in at 18 cm. Apparently it was a bit of a talking point among those masseuses there. I haven't self tested higher, but I know I had more in me at the time, and need a hot girl to do the work. But it was enough to get a lot of jealous looks.

My go to Hunan girl at the time there claimed it was 22 or even 25 cm to all the other 150 or so girls at the club there. Maybe exaggerating a bit (LOL), but according to her it was pretty extreme on a girl at 1.53 or so tall. Still she took it all balls deep and she started choking me (while she was on top), demanding me to continue when I came for the first time. So with a dong full of cum, I kept going for another 3-5 minutes or so before the second time so she could get yet another orgasm. Memories!

Pistons
06-03-21, 14:00
She was even bragging so much about it to all the other girls that it became a talking point, and quite a bit of drama afterwards. Especially between the Chinese and Vietnamese. But also with two other Chinese girls I played chess with.

Mursenary
06-03-21, 15:13
I was really not impressed by your look at LR, didn't see a NBA tall and when you were hidden in Bruggen couch whole evening, Lucifer didn't notice your look, even she was looking for business when she couldn't get me. And when I see your French bald friend here, I just think we can't experience same, some girls making free for me, but never free as he told.We all have our taste and I'm glad that you do not want to fuck me!

But look, I found a picture of you spying on your love at LR.

Mursenary
06-03-21, 16:34
At 18 Sauna in Macau while getting a thigh massage from one of the Vietnamese masseuses in the lounge there, another one of them ran over with a meter stick trying to measure it. It went down slightly as the proReplies right on cue with more unverifiable stories. How predictable and how sad. Siri Jr in the making.

https://youtu.be/Hzx8KHjQD6c

Pistons
06-03-21, 16:35
I was really not impressed by your look at LR, didn't see a NBA tall and when you were hidden in Bruggen couch whole evening, Lucifer didn't notice your look, even she was looking for business when she couldn't get me. And when I see your French bald friend here, I just think we can't experience same, some girls making free for me, but never free as he told.Yeah it's funny how Mr. Micro considers 1.80 to be tall. In Europe at least 1.95 is a minimum to be considered tall. Average height for men in the Netherlands is 1.83 for example.

BigBuddy69
06-03-21, 16:51
Any sources for that?https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-probable-link-between-pfizer-vaccine-small-number-myocarditis-cases-2021-06-01/

I didn't know that "mild" was another word for "severe". Maybe among conspiracy theorist circles?

Sirioja
06-03-21, 16:54
We all have our taste and I'm glad that you do not want to fuck me!

But look, I found a picture of you spying on your love at LR.You came to me, I didn't ask you anything. Small ears, girls are jealous, and no hat for me, I don't even put helmet when I free ride in rocks or bicycle downhill, with more sensations when reaching 70 km / h than cleaning German autobahns at 250. I like too much my beautiful hair girls want to touch, they would need hours to get same. About my own image, when I often look at me in brothels mirrors, maybe they put more at Bruggen for me, girls saying: You are beautiful, some want to touch my face, many want to touch my hair.

Sirioja
06-03-21, 17:10
Yeah it's funny how Mr. Micro considers 1.80 to be tall. In Europe at least 1.95 is a minimum to be considered tall. Average height for men in the Netherlands is 1.83 for example.But he is not 180, I didn't see him so tall, maybe because I saw him spending too long time sitting in couch waiting for girls. No complex for me because I understood when I was 14/15 where was power, among those hiding looking at the wall and few proud, and it helps to be self confident and impress girls, even complicated with brothels small pussies, it was much easier in real life with normal women. Fortunately for me, I m not 20 cm because no girl would accept to have sex with me, when I really have to be very careful, even with busy superstars sex machines, but: You are big and very hard, and fucking more than 20's guys, so I really don t need Viagra.

Mursenary
06-03-21, 17:58
Yeah it's funny how Mr. Micro considers 1.80 to be tall. In Europe at least 1.95 is a minimum to be considered tall. Average height for men in the Netherlands is 1.83 for example.Funny how you only seem to consider certain people. Average height for men in the world is around 171 cm. Objective facts. Big world.

ExpatLover
06-03-21, 19:19
At 18 Sauna in Macau while getting a thigh massage from one of the Vietnamese masseuses in the lounge there, another one of them ran over with a meter stick trying to measure it. It went down slightly as the pro masseuse left it over to the girl with the meter stick, but I clocked in at 18 cm. Apparently it was a bit of a talking point among those masseuses there. I haven't self tested higher, but I know I had more in me at the time, and need a hot girl to do the work. But it was enough to get a lot of jealous looks.

My go to Hunan girl at the time there claimed it was 22 or even 25 cm to all the other 150 or so girls at the club there. Maybe exaggerating a bit (LOL), but according to her it was pretty extreme on a girl at 1.53 or so tall. Still she took it all balls deep and she started choking me (while she was on top), demanding me to continue when I came for the first time. So with a dong full of cum, I kept going for another 3-5 minutes or so before the second time so she could get yet another orgasm. Memories!Remains me the stories from the fishermen, they always catch the biggest fish, in German we say " Einbildung ist auch eine Bildung".

PaulInZurich
06-03-21, 22:26
No complex for me because I understood when I was 14/15 where was power, among those hiding looking at the wall and few proud, and it helps to be self confident and impress girls, even complicated with brothels small pussies, it was much easier in real life with normal women. Fortunately for me, I m not 20 cm because no girl would accept to have sex with me, when I really have to be very careful, even with busy superstars sex machines, but: You are big and very hard, and fucking more than 20's guys, so I really don t need Viagra.This would be hilarious if you wouldn't be delusional. Please visit a mental health professional, you need help.

Mursenary
06-03-21, 22:43
But he is not 180, I didn't see him so tall, maybe because I saw him spending too long time sitting in couch waiting for girls.I said I was tall? No I did not. But am also not leprechaun sized. LOL.


girls saying:
You are beautiful, some want to touch my face, many want to touch my hair.In your worlds, the "land of bullshits," and you believe the girls when they say this to you. Face reality, too many wrinkles, too many grey hairs, and no muscles for women to genuinely think you are physically beautiful. But then again you also believe them when they tell you their weight, not knowing what 55 kg really looks like.

Believe me little Leprechaun, they women only want your pot of gold.

Mursenary
06-03-21, 22:46
Remains me the stories from the fishermen, they always catch the biggest fish, in German we say " Einbildung ist auch eine Bildung".Every so often we agree.

Pistons
06-03-21, 22:58
But he is not 180, I didn't see him so tall, maybe because I saw him spending too long time sitting in couch waiting for girls. No complex for me because I understood when I was 14/15 where was power, among those hiding looking at the wall and few proud, and it helps to be self confident and impress girls, even complicated with brothels small pussies, it was much easier in real life with normal women. Fortunately for me, I m not 20 cm because no girl would accept to have sex with me, when I really have to be very careful, even with busy superstars sex machines, but: You are big and very hard, and fucking more than 20's guys, so I really don t need Viagra.He was talking about my height. But I totally understand you given the 10 cm dick reference. Which is his own size and not mine. But even that was an exaggeration for him as both the two girls who mentioned it to me showed something more in the line of 5 cm with their fingers.

Pistons
06-03-21, 23:00
Replies right on cue with more unverifiable stories. How predictable and how sad. Siri Jr in the making.

https://youtu.be/Hzx8KHjQD6cTake a trip there and show them a picture of me. I bet you they still recognize me. At least some of them.

Mursenary
06-04-21, 00:46
Take a trip there and show them a picture of me. I bet you they still recognize me. At least some of them.How can people forget when Frankenstein's monster makes a visit?

Mursenary
06-04-21, 00:51
He was talking about my height. But I totally understand you given the 10 cm dick reference. Which is his own size and not mine. But even that was an exaggeration for him as both the two girls who mentioned it to me showed something more in the line of 5 cm with their fingers.Stop lying, we both know that girls don't talk to you unless it is the word "Zimmer"? Or "Euros"? Or more often the words "Let me".

Sirioja
06-04-21, 07:50
This would be hilarious if you wouldn't be delusional. Please visit a mental health professional, you need help.I love my image, thanks to my so lucky and full of love childhood and nobody can do versus this. In brothels, I look at me in mirrors and girls often come to look with me, when I don't ask them anything. When in room, I asked some girls to come with me full naked in front of mirror, I was usually more comfortable about my own image than beauties.

Sirioja
06-04-21, 08:12
I said I was tall? No I did not. But am also not leprechaun sized. LOL.

In your worlds, the "land of bullshits," and you believe the girls when they say this to you. Face reality, too many wrinkles, too many grey hairs, and no muscles for women to genuinely think you are physically beautiful. But then again you also believe them when they tell you their weight, not knowing what 55 kg really looks like.

Believe me little Leprechaun, they women only want your pot of gold.Yes, they call me Richard Gere even I have less, but playing pretty woman. When I kick in my firm with no fat belly, they look at me with round eyes, asking me to stop, firm hard from everywhere, like a black wild pig. I wish you were at least able to see, after waiting her for hours, Lucifer is less than 50 kgs. Despite curves, Kate is 168 and around 50, didn't you ask them? Don't you know more fat and water for women than only bones and muscles for a black wild pig like me, when water is less heavy. In fashion, a 60 kgs girl would have to be at least 185, not many, when most are 177/180 and closer to 55 than 60 kgs. Maybe your US standards with plastic, but EU are slimmer, fortunately for me.

BigBuddy69
06-04-21, 09:54
In your worlds, the "land of bullshits," and you believe the girls when they say this to you.When someone bragged constantly about never visiting prostitutes before 2010 and bragged in another place that he started in 2007, every weekend, does that qualify for 'land of bullshits'?

Same thing for applying a strict 'club rate policy' when he bragged before about overpaying in Golden Time?

And having no relationships outside the clubs when he was proud of helping his first love interest when she was contacting him from Romania? And cancelled an hotel night with him?

Seems like some people create their own 'land of bullshits'.

Pistons
06-04-21, 16:52
Stop lying, we both know that girls don't talk to you unless it is the word "Zimmer"? Or "Euros"? Or more often the words "Let me".How is it to have a micro penis while having the body of a 57 year old at the age of 37? With Viagra you might be able to get hard, but 1. You won't feel anything. And 2. It still won't get longer than 5 cm.

PaulInZurich
06-04-21, 17:24
When someone bragged constantly about never visiting prostitutes before 2010 and bragged in another place that he started in 2007, every weekend, does that qualify for 'land of bullshits'?

Same thing for applying a strict 'club rate policy' when he bragged before about overpaying in Golden Time?

And having no relationships outside the clubs when he was proud of helping his first love interest when she was contacting him from Romania? And cancelled an hotel night with him?

Seems like some people create their own 'land of bullshits'.In the land of bullshits anybody can be number one Casanova in Europe, better driver than Lewis Hamilton and better cyclist than Peter Sagan.

It's also called being delusional "delusional. Characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder".

Mursenary
06-04-21, 18:34
How is it to have a micro penis while having the body of a 57 year old at the age of 37? With Viagra you might be able to get hard, but 1. You won't feel anything. And 2. It still won't get longer than 5 cm.LOL. All of your insults don't affect me when we both know that they are fabricated in order for you to save face in front of ISG strangers. Common mongers who have met us both can attest to as much. Fact is, you're still ugly and that can be attested by all. But go on ugly duckling, use the techniques of self delusion that sets you on your way to carrying the Siri torch. It's your personal decision. Frankenstein's monster and the little Leprechaun, makes for some entertaining folklore.

Mursenary
06-04-21, 18:39
Yes, they call me Richard Gere even I have less, but playing pretty woman. When I kick in my firm with no fat belly, they look at me with round eyes, asking me to stop, firm hard from everywhere, like a black wild pig. I wish you were at least able to see, after waiting her for hours, Lucifer is less than 50 kgs. Despite curves, Kate is 168 and around 50, didn't you ask them? Don't you know more fat and water for women than only bones and muscles for a black wild pig like me, when water is less heavy. In fashion, a 60 kgs girl would have to be at least 185, not many, when most are 177/180 and closer to 55 than 60 kgs. Maybe your US standards with plastic, but EU are slimmer, fortunately for me.Yes, the people who went with Lucy before me were my friends. We pretty much ran a train on her. What are friends you ask? I forget that you don't have the pleasure of having these things called "friendships".

That's cute that you think that Kate is only 50 kg. She would be flattered. I wrestled in my whole life and coached the girls, I think I am better able than you to judge weight.

Richard Gere, LOL. Was there a movie where he played a Leprechaun?

Mursenary
06-04-21, 18:44
When someone bragged constantly about never visiting prostitutes before 2010 and bragged in another place that he started in 2007, every weekend, does that qualify for 'land of bullshits'?

Same thing for applying a strict 'club rate policy' when he bragged before about overpaying in Golden Time?

And having no relationships outside the clubs when he was proud of helping his first love interest when she was contacting him from Romania? And cancelled an hotel night with him?

Seems like some people create their own 'land of bullshits'.I suspect that deep down inside he actually knows. Same with Frankenstein's monster. Sometimes I feel a little guilty for constantly reminding them that it is their fabricated armor in a cruel world that has always reminded them of their inferior place. The thing is, they have constantly revealed their asshole tendencies so that makes me feel less guilty. Being as asshole without the credentials to back it up is an unfortunately way to live.

Pistons
06-04-21, 20:25
I suspect that deep down inside he actually knows. Same with Frankenstein's monster. Sometimes I feel a little guilty for constantly reminding them that it is their fabricated armor in a cruel world that has always reminded them of their inferior place. The thing is, they have constantly revealed their asshole tendencies so that makes me feel less guilty. Being as asshole without the credentials to back it up is an unfortunately way to live.Mr. Micro. Wow, it must feel weird being such a beta not able to give women a proper orgasm.

Pistons
06-04-21, 20:29
LOL. All of your insults don't affect me when we both know that they are fabricated in order for you to save face in front of ISG strangers. Common mongers who have met us both can attest to as much. Fact is, you're still ugly and that can be attested by all. But go on ugly duckling, use the techniques of self delusion that sets you on your way to carrying the Siri torch. It's your personal decision. Frankenstein's monster and the little Leprechaun, makes for some entertaining folklore.Compared to you I'm a superstar model. Everyone who has met us both know this for a fact!

Sirioja
06-04-21, 21:51
Yes, the people who went with Lucy before me were my friends. We pretty much ran a train on her. What are friends you ask? I forget that you don't have the pleasure of having these things called "friendships".

That's cute that you think that Kate is only 50 kg. She would be flattered. I wrestled in my whole life and coached the girls, I think I am better able than you to judge weight.

Richard Gere, LOL. Was there a movie where he played a Leprechaun?You were lucky I did let her for others, when she came on 3 times and when she arrived at 7.30 pm. I really don t need brothels friends, I m only interested by attractive images. I wrote around 50, but not 55, when Kate needed to talk about her weight and image, at least with me. Weight full naked of course.

Sirioja
06-04-21, 22:00
I suspect that deep down inside he actually knows. Same with Frankenstein's monster. Sometimes I feel a little guilty for constantly reminding them that it is their fabricated armor in a cruel world that has always reminded them of their inferior place. The thing is, they have constantly revealed their asshole tendencies so that makes me feel less guilty. Being as asshole without the credentials to back it up is an unfortunately way to live.You can keep on as much you need, no problem for me from guys I know so pathetic stories about, with your obsessed follower who doesn't know anything, bald French friend here. I wish at least you met, because easier to understand when you see guys. Enjoy with your brothels friends, I prefer guys in my sports. No obsessed followers in my sports.

Mursenary
06-04-21, 23:08
Compared to you I'm a superstar model. Everyone who has met us both know this for a fact!LOL. Sometimes your jokes are funny. I'm pretty average, but you sir, well, how do quantify the word "gross"? Being so void of physical attributes, how does one not acquire some degree of charm or wealth in 35+ years on earth? Your mother cries every night knowing she raised such a failure. Having a father figure would have done you some good. Maybe that's why you were so thirsty to be attached to my hip when we met. So sad for you. Ugly, arrogant, and lacking skills is sad way to live.

Mursenary
06-04-21, 23:12
You were lucky I did let her for others, when she came on 3 times and when she arrived at 7.30 pm. I really don t need brothels friends, I m only interested by attractive images. I wrote around 50, but not 55, when Kate needed to talk about her weight and image, at least with me. Weight full naked of course.Um, she arrived around 5 pm when she talked to my French friend before you even knew.

You were lucky that McA told her to go talk to you. His mistake in contributing to your delusions.

Again, you believe a woman when she says her weight? How do live so many years and not know that and their age are the things they most lie about, too old to be so naive.

Mursenary
06-04-21, 23:16
You can keep on as much you need, no problem for me from guys I know so pathetic stories about, with your obsessed follower who doesn't know anything, bald French friend here. I wish at least you met, because easier to understand when you see guys. Enjoy with your brothels friends, I prefer guys in my sports. No obsessed followers in my sports.(Imaginary) Friends in your sport? Funny that of all sports, you pick the ones where people can escape from you at fast speeds.

Mursenary
06-04-21, 23:55
Compared to you I'm a superstar model. Everyone who has met us both know this for a fact!Man rips you apart and you basically just say the same thing he just said. What happened to that acclaimed "media studies" originality?

This is the online equivalent of "Nuh-Uh, you are."

Pistons
06-05-21, 01:00
I'm pretty average, Indeed, for a 57 year old.

PaulInZurich
06-05-21, 01:03
Yes, they call me Richard Gere even I have less, but playing pretty woman. Are you sure they don't call you Richard Gere because of the gerbilectomy internet rumor? Is that linked to you wanting to repeat your jail adventure with your Albanian friends?

BigBuddy69
06-05-21, 04:41
(Imaginary) Friends in your sport? Funny that of all sports, you pick the ones where people can escape from you at fast speeds.Which sports? Two days of ski every two years and a ridiculously low total cycling distance on an old beaten mountain bike with slick tires, only 4 months a year? Never took part in a competition because the outcome could damage his fantasy works?

Oh and I forgot the wrc driving on the highways with the car given by the company. Everyone knows that highways are narrow technical tracks with hairpin turns, jumps and so on.

Sirioja
06-05-21, 08:16
Um, she arrived around 5 pm when she talked to my French friend before you even knew.

You were lucky that McA told her to go talk to you. His mistake in contributing to your delusions.

Again, you believe a woman when she says her weight? How do live so many years and not know that and their age are the things they most lie about, too old to be so naive.I didn't wait nor look for her when I left her after 15 mn without touching her at Palace 9 months ago, but she came to me in outside restaurant before Mac and again after him, before you. I m fully sure she didn't try same with any other guy at Bruggen, if I followed her, you had to return on next day, when I'm not a rabbit, and again 1 month later at Velbert when she didn't like Bruggen rules, but I didn't go again. Remind me busy superstar at LR, I wrote her it was finished for me, but she delayed her whole week end booking and returned again on next Friday, she thought I would fall and I can only thank her for what she did to try to get me, but I already made so big efforts to return to her on 3 previous times, when I never returned to any other girl before her. But I like real facts more than words. In real life, women are proud to show You on weight machine, to be the prettiest for you, when they are in love. We may not have same standards from fat US and slim European women, but I wish you knew at least Ariana was less than 50 kgs when not full pregnant. Weight and image were so important for Kate, to even need to change her self image when she really didn't need, but what this business make to girls about their self image.

Sirioja
06-05-21, 12:49
Many guys seem more interested by other guys than girls in brothels, needing to come to speak, when I only focus on girls. I remember I missed a rare fresh brunette on my last Globe visit because of a too talkative guy. When I hear guys speaking about girls or what pathetic he needed to tell me, I prefer to run away, not at all interesting for me. I only laughed when I was told bald French story at LR, when I didn't even understand what she proposed me, but not pretty enough for me to pay even only 50 for her, when all girls don t worth same rate for me. Pretties worth more expensive when I don t pay for girls I would not go for free outside.

DrPoon
06-05-21, 12:58
So there are some flights from the USA to Greece or Italy, but what is the situation in the border between Greece and Italy and Switzerland? Can people with a USA passport fly to Switzerland from Greece or Italy to get to one of the open clubs?

Mursenary
06-05-21, 17:39
Compared to you I'm a superstar model. Everyone who has met us both know this for a fact!
Indeed, for a 57 year old.Okay Mr superstar model, no need for men to judge other men. Let the ladies decide. I'm doing pretty well for a "57 year old. " But explain the 2.8 rating. So embarrassing for you.

Pistons
06-05-21, 18:53
Okay Mr superstar model, no need for men to judge other men. Let the ladies decide. I'm doing pretty well for a "57 year old. " But explain the 2.8 rating. So embarrassing for you.I am also aware fat girls like fat guys. And old women likes old women. Goes to show what type of old fat American women go to that obscure website. Unless you just did more of your usual multihandelling.

Pistons
06-05-21, 19:06
LOL, I just tested that site, and only 3 out of the 15 people I got to vote on were women. Hardly something you can take serious! This is men voting on other men. Fine, so I don't look as gay as you!

I also voted the lowest score on all except one girl who I gave average score to.

Ararat
06-05-21, 19:31
LOL, I just tested that site, and only 3 out of the 15 people I got to vote on were women. Hardly something you can take serious! This is men voting on other men. Fine, so I don't look as gay as you!

I also voted the lowest score on all except one girl who I gave average score to.You took the bait. Loser.

Sirioja
06-05-21, 19:36
(Imaginary) Friends in your sport? Funny that of all sports, you pick the ones where people can escape from you at fast speeds.When I climb or free ride, I most often meet foreigners for me and sometimes a bit complicated to communicate, but we immediately feel our passion, even can have different level or aim, but we are there for passion, not to be paid, sharing about passion, much more interesting than sharing about fucking girls, when I don't need advice. Look forward starting, I wish with Summer ski soon and planned around 25 highest ranked climbing's, to make my Summer great.

Pahllus Maximus
06-05-21, 20:01
I've been pondering about the sniping and posturing here, not because I care, but as a mind exercise. Some have super human mountaineering. Others insight into CIA / fake moon landing COVID conspiracies. Others are into putting others down on a really personal note whist resorting to "proof" of their glamor / success / wealth / etc with screen shots and grade school type petty insults. Then the professor role comes out in the same way as a dog lifting its leg and marking its territory. And personal attacks. Naturally this is all one way hit 'and run. More humorous is the predictable lame symbols and superficiality. But the bigger question is: why bother? Look at the audience. Many would class this board as losers. Banging Romanian prostitutes is not exactly something to shout from the rooftops or requiring skill. Nor are low class Thai hooker wannabes with their airs.

The investment in time and energy (that they feel the need to impress this board) finally caused the penny to drop: the louder the drum, the more hollow inside. And look at where the drum is being furiously pounded.

Ararat
06-05-21, 20:37
I've been pondering about the sniping and posturing here, not because I care, but as a mind exercise. Some have super human mountaineering. Others insight into CIA / fake moon landing COVID conspiracies. Others are into putting others down on a really personal note whist resorting to "proof" of their glamor / success / wealth / etc with screen shots and grade school type petty insults. Then the professor role comes out in the same way as a dog lifting its leg and marking its territory. And personal attacks. Naturally this is all one way hit 'and run. More humorous is the predictable lame symbols and superficiality. But the bigger question is: why bother? Look at the audience. Many would class this board as losers. Banging Romanian prostitutes is not exactly something to shout from the rooftops or requiring skill. Nor are low class Thai hooker wannabes with their airs.

The investment in time and energy (that they feel the need to impress this board) finally caused the penny to drop: the louder the drum, the more hollow inside. And look at where the drum is being furiously pounded.I'm sure you also can see that some of the most active in that feud obviously have met IRL and it didn't go well.

I know from other venues that it can be hard to know whether someone's forum personality will translate to IRL so I won't bother with that. I don't think I'm above occasional sniping but I'd agree with you that it's not worth it.

I really think the big difference is between posters who realize they're (we're) 'losers' because we use prostitutes and those who don't see that. Then again, some of the more bizarre behaviour is clearly a coping mechanism.

Mursenary
06-05-21, 21:13
LOL, I just tested that site, and only 3 out of the 15 people I got to vote on were women. Hardly something you can take serious! This is men voting on other men. Fine, so I don't look as gay as you!

I also voted the lowest score on all except one girl who I gave average score to.That's why you select "Females only" dummy.

Numbers don't lie, you ugly. Mr 2.8. I mean, you're uglier than the ugliest girl at an FKK.

Mursenary
06-05-21, 21:16
I've been pondering about the sniping and posturing here, not because I care, but as a mind exercise. Some have super human mountaineering. Others insight into CIA / fake moon landing COVID conspiracies. Others are into putting others down on a really personal note whist resorting to "proof" of their glamor / success / wealth / etc with screen shots and grade school type petty insults. Then the professor role comes out in the same way as a dog lifting its leg and marking its territory. And personal attacks. Naturally this is all one way hit 'and run. More humorous is the predictable lame symbols and superficiality. But the bigger question is: why bother? Look at the audience. Many would class this board as losers. Banging Romanian prostitutes is not exactly something to shout from the rooftops or requiring skill. Nor are low class Thai hooker wannabes with their airs.

The investment in time and energy (that they feel the need to impress this board) finally caused the penny to drop: the louder the drum, the more hollow inside. And look at where the drum is being furiously pounded.Right, you're the guy who sabotages a hooker's business because she wouldn't stroke his ego. Get off your high horse the next time you come around in 3 weeks.

Get off the rants thread if you don't like it. Before I have the ladies rate your ugly ass too.

Beijing4987
06-05-21, 21:35
Nobody cares. It's all about getting the last word.

Mursenary
06-05-21, 22:31
Nobody cares. It's all about getting the last word.I care buddy. I care.

Pistons
06-05-21, 23:54
You took the bait. Loser.Cost me 1 minute. Then I realized Mr. Micro has used one of these costly looserproof tinder photographs. Since I had access to the picture he was using, I can tell. While for me he took a 15 year old plain Webcam photo.

Pistons
06-05-21, 23:59
That's why you select "Females only" dummy.

Numbers don't lie, you ugly. Mr 2.8. I mean, you're uglier than the ugliest girl at an FKK.Maybe so, but you most likely clicked male only while testing my generic picture.

Pistons
06-06-21, 00:10
Phallus just called me more humorous than Mr. Micro.

836 - 0.

I am almost loosing count.

Mursenary
06-06-21, 00:49
Cost me 1 minute. Then I realized Mr. Micro has used one of these costly looserproof tinder photographs. Since I had access to the picture he was using, I can tell. While for me he took a 15 year old plain Webcam photo.Just respective WhatsApps photos.

Costly? Flattered that you think my photos are professional quality. I'll tell my friend that she's a great photographer.

Either way. A fucking 2.8. Jeesus. I was expecting around a 4, but a 2.8? Never in my wildest trolling dreams would would the troll Gods return a 2.8. I didn't know they made them that ugly.

Pistons
06-06-21, 00:52
Man (70)(almost the age of Mr. Micro) died the day after he received the 3rd vaccine dosage! (Pfizer).

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/oAX4PK/mann-i-70-aarene-doede-dagen-etter-at-han-fikk-tredje-vaksinedose

Of course he was not really supposed to get 3 dosages, but still.

Remember the reports on a needed extra 3rd dosage?

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html

The real havoc from vaccine side effects have barely begun!

Mursenary
06-06-21, 01:41
I'm sure you also can see that some of the most active in that feud obviously have met IRL and it didn't go well.

I know from other venues that it can be hard to know whether someone's forum personality will translate to IRL so I won't bother with that. I don't think I'm above occasional sniping but I'd agree with you that it's not worth it.

I really think the big difference is between posters who realize they're (we're) 'losers' because we use prostitutes and those who don't see that. Then again, some of the more bizarre behaviour is clearly a coping mechanism.Good points. I can admit to my own vitriol-filled posts and know-it-all, asshole tendencies on this board. The internet face and the public face are often different personas. But the most important one is the one that comes out when you're around those you care most about, not the anonymous internet one or the public, professional one. Simple realities I think (that is if you are able to compartmentalize).

That being said, labeling losers and winners here is generally, indeed, a pretty trivial exercise. Gaining social validation on a hooker forum can't be a secure way to maintain psychological health, can it? But let me tell you, putting some people in their place is often a social faux pas that feels damn good on the anonymous interweb.

Mursenary
06-06-21, 01:45
I am also aware fat girls like fat guys. And old women likes old women. Goes to show what type of old fat American women go to that obscure website. Unless you just did more of your usual multihandelling.
So there are some flights from the USA to Greece or Italy, but what is the situation in the border between Greece and Italy and Switzerland? Can people with a USA passport fly to Switzerland from Greece or Italy to get to one of the open clubs?From my ExPat American boots on the ground: as of now, no. The EU is supposed to begin opening up to approved non-EU travelers by the beginning of July. Details are still in flux regarding quarantine, proof of vax / antibodies / negative tests. But given Italy and Greece are open and France being due for non-vax entry on 9th of June, it's hard to see other nations not following suit within the month.

Mursenary
06-06-21, 02:12
I didn't wait nor look for her when I left her after 15 mn without touching her at Palace 9 months ago, but she came to me in outside restaurant before Mac and again after him, before you. I m fully sure she didn't try same with any other guy at Bruggen, if I followed her, you had to return on next day, when I'm not a rabbit, and again 1 month later at Velbert when she didn't like Bruggen rules, but I didn't go again.

But I like real facts more than words. In real life, women are proud to show You on weight machine, to be the prettiest for you, when they are in love. We may not have same standards from fat US and slim European women, but I wish you knew at least Ariana was less than 50 kgs when not full pregnant. Weight and image were so important for Kate, to even need to change her self image when she really didn't need, but what this business make to girls about their self image.You still don't realize that the three of us already had her booked for the next several hours before you even caught sight and McA was nice enough to tell her to go to you because you staring at us with your arms crossed for 2 hours made everyone including the girl feel uncomfortable.

Wish I knew? Ariana, being near the same height as Kate was 54 kg at week 12 on a "weight machine" at the doctor's office and she was much more slim than Kate. Hell, she was on the low end of healthy weight for 170 cm, more slim than nearly all FKK girls. Facts.

American girls are on average heavier than Europeans, big whoop.

HammerTime96
06-06-21, 10:15
Right, you're the guy who sabotages a hooker's business because she wouldn't stroke his ego. Get off your high horse the next time you come around in 3 weeks.

Get off the rants thread if you don't like it. Before I have the ladies rate your ugly ass too.No, you're the one who is sabotaging the FKK business by advocating lockdowns, vaccines, and tracking apps!

McGrath
06-06-21, 16:37
Isn't this a rather peculiar discussion to have on a forum dedicated to people fucking prostitutes as a hobby.

I'm 50+, and unless you're very rich or a rock star (I'm neither), chasing women half your age you quickly become ridiculous. And even if you're succesful, you're a generation apart and most likely have nothing in common. I would never date a 25 year old, ever.

But I do want to fuck 25 year old prostitutes. Why? Obviously because they are hot and sexy. But I sure as hell would not fuck a 50+ prostitute.

This GF or spouse vs prostitute discussion doesn't make sense, its not the same thing or purpose.Do like I do nowadays. Just scroll fast past and don't read his and the little Frenchmans posts.

Canary
06-06-21, 16:43
Do like I do nowadays. Just scroll fast past and don't read his and the little Frenchmans posts.LOL, snap!

Sirioja
06-06-21, 18:29
You still don't realize that the three of us already had her booked for the next several hours before you even caught sight and McA was nice enough to tell her to go to you because you staring at us with your arms crossed for 2 hours made everyone including the girl feel uncomfortable.

Wish I knew? Ariana, being near the same height as Kate was 54 kg at week 12 on a "weight machine" at the doctor's office and she was much more slim than Kate. Hell, she was on the low end of healthy weight for 170 cm, more slim than nearly all FKK girls. Facts.

American girls are on average heavier than Europeans, big whoop.Don't make me laugh when you waited for hours and when she tried so much to get me before you and if I accepted, then you couldn't have her, when I never needed Mac for any girl when he gave me wrong information at Sharks, even he informed my LR girl I arrived and was diner. Ariana was a bit less tall than Kate, not more than 165 bare feet and less than 50 when she was empty. Did you forget she had other than You? As You told me. I agree with You American women are on average not so slim than Europeans, maybe why You think women weight 60 , which is heavy for a European woman, except strong sporty ones or taller than 180 and even young women are now not so slim than before. Also more and more fat now in Europe, from US culture for feeding, with MacDo and Cola. Preparing my ironman Summer tour, I was told 3/4 kgs make lose more than 5 mn on 15 kms 7% climbing, which is really not steep for me, so it would be much more time lost on my steeper and more than 70 kgs is handicap for real climbings, not only 2/3 kms, when some climbings are around 30 kms. I will be perfect with my great bicycle when need to be able to turn legs fast enough to make heart work on high enough rhythm versus lactic acid. Knowledge also help to perform.

PaulInZurich
06-06-21, 18:45
I will be perfect with my great bicycle Delusional Pierrot.

Pistons
06-06-21, 19:23
Either way. A fucking 2.8. Jeesus. I was expecting around a 4, but a 2.8? Never in my wildest trolling dreams would would the troll Gods return a 2.8. I didn't know they made them that ugly.The site is AI driven. I got an e-mail describing how to raise the score from 9% to 81%. You probably got the same e-mail. So they have AI bots giving out scores based on smiling, 3 d perception, outdoor etc etc. Probably with income generation in mind. Only fools buys into that sort of thing. But true, a lot of girls also look at those things on tinder. (My whatsapp is not a tinder though). Which only goes to show that most women (also) are not real persons, but AI programs in the matrix we live in. Simple AIs. Just like you.

Rocky V
06-06-21, 20:37
No, you're the one who is sabotaging the FKK business by advocating lockdowns, vaccines, and tracking apps!He must be such a powerful man if the FKK business is in his hands.

BigBuddy69
06-06-21, 21:35
You still don't realize that the three of us already had her booked for the next several hours before you even caught sight and McA was nice enough to tell her to go to you because you staring at us with your arms crossed for 2 hours made everyone including the girl feel uncomfortable.Next time do a gang bang in the lounge!