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PayForIt
07-30-20, 12:16
A new forum for those interested in the club scene only on the costa del sol. So nothing about villas / casas / the Spanish economy / just reports about visits to clubs, line ups, costs, good and bad service from the ladies.

PayForIt
07-30-20, 12:31
Can I ask that any of you guys who have attended any of the clubs on the CDS in the past 2 weeks please share details of which clubs, when you attended, quality of the line ups, girls you sessioned with and how good or bad they were, prices and how well attended the club was / service you received from staff / girls / doormen etc. Happy mongering!

PayForIt
07-30-20, 23:58
Contrary to some murmurings last week, all clubs on the CDS are still open. That includes Scandalos, E92, both Glass Palaces in Estepona and Malaga, Miladys Palace, Divas, Fontana and Cleofas (Campamento near Gibraltar). Not sure about Coq the'Or. Never been.

How long with they be open if the current increase in Spanish cases continues? No idea. All the more reason to fill your boots whilst you can!

PayForIt
08-01-20, 02:43
So first report in earnest having created this thread for clubs only.

After an hour at Admiral Casino at salida 24 (fabulous and worth a trip if only for the food. More than you can ever eat for 10 euros. Truly sensational), headed to Guadacorte Park to check in. Into Fontana (LOS Barrios). Really quiet at 10.30. Only Elizabeth (new pretty and slim Columbiana), new Patricia from Brazil and a coupe of others (both S American). So off to Club Cleofas. Had a sensational time with Monika (Ro) in January. The club is in Campamento. No close hotel - 18 euros from Guadacorte Park. It has a really family feel and some really very determined girls. Monika was there, just a fabulous body and wheel nut nipples. Her friend Dina (Moroccan) is a seriously very pretty girl, natural see cups and great English.

2. 5 hours in the room with them both. Lady drinks either 40 e or 20 e and room is 140/ hour per girl but with a deal if you stay longer. Truly fabulous night with them both.

On my return decided to see what Fontana was like at 2. 45 am. Packed. Monica (different brunette normally at E92 was there. Stunning body) and many of the usuals. Iris (fabulous size 6 tiny body and very pretty), Gabriella (blonde Ro) and of course Rosa (Ro. Brunette who virtually lives there). Too exhausted after my exploits at Cleofas. Will do Fontana instead of Cleofas in the nest 2 weeks but this end of the coast is thriving.

Pepe1976X
08-01-20, 14:53
So first report in earnest having created this thread for clubs only.

After an hour at Admiral Casino at salida 24 (fabulous and worth a trip if only for the food. More than you can ever eat for 10 euros. Truly sensational),.Hi PayForIt,

Glad to hear the great little Fontanas is doing well even if its a late arrival to get the best out of it! Have never attended that Casino or Cleofas (one evening 2 years ago had an aborted attempt at finding Cleofas but had to give up). Was also good to read that all Puticlubs were up and running. Can't beat the the Costa del Sol!

Sadly it's unlikely I shall be there this year but very much appreciate your reports and the time and effort creating them let alone the hard earnt $s that you spent to make them possible.

Regards Pep.

PayForIt
08-01-20, 22:36
Hi PayForIt,

Glad to hear the great little Fontanas is doing well even if its a late arrival to get the best out of it! Have never attended that Casino or Cleofas (one evening 2 years ago had an aborted attempt at finding Cleofas but had to give up). Was also good to read that all Puticlubs were up and running. Can't beat the the Costa del Sol!

Sadly it's unlikely I shall be there this year but very much appreciate your reports and the time and effort creating them let alone the hard earnt $s that you spent to make them possible.

Regards Pep.Thanks and good to hear from you Pep. All the clubs are open. Cleofas was bouncing last night - 8 girls working and 4 of them very appealing. Dina is particularly attractive and excellent service.

Hope you manage to get out here at some point.

Kind regards.

PayForIt
08-06-20, 01:35
Decided against a return to Fontana or E92 tonight and headed to Malaga / Scandalos.

Temperature test outside and two forms of entry now to the club. One along the terrace outside and into new bar in the old part you walked through via the club. Then main club as usual.

Wide selection of girls but not a single EE girl working in the club. Every single girl was South American. Some stunning bodies.

Finally selected Christina. Mistake - nice girl in the bar but not that great in the room.

I had vowed to avoid Scandalos after they increased the prices to 220/ hour which is truly ridiculous when e92 is still 150/ hour. Whilst there are undoubtedly more options in Scandalos, the service level in E92 I have enjoyed for the past 2 years is far better. Despite having paid my 220 I left the room unsatisfied after 45 minutes.

The club was very busy though they say they restrict numbers after 2 am. I wouldn't know, I was out by then.

If you don't mind blowing a lot of cash on Latina bodies this is the place for you. Personally I'll be heading back to Fontana / Cleofas and E92 for the quality of service going forwards.

Michal123
08-06-20, 15:44
Hi guys,

I know this thread is for Club Reports only, but I have visited E92 many times, and hope to visit the costa again when the travel corridors return. Whereabouts are Cleofas and Fontanas? I can't find any info on them.

Cheers,

Michal.

PayForIt
08-06-20, 23:15
Hi guys,

I know this thread is for Club Reports only, but I have visited E92 many times, and hope to visit the costa again when the travel corridors return. Whereabouts are Cleofas and Fontanas? I can't find any info on them.

Cheers,

Michal.Ok so Fontana is a big club (bigger inside than E92) on the main A7 road along the coast. You keep on going past the signs for Gibraltar towards Cadiz and Algeciras. It is Junction 113 B, around the roundabout, take the sign for Guadacorte, past the Guadacorte Park Hotel and it is on the right. You can park underground. 10 e entry buys your first drink as in Scandalos. Club doesn't really get going until gone midnight. Girl drinks from 30 euros now and rooms are 180 e for an hour. I have no idea about 30 minutes but you are not going to travel this distance along the coast for 30 minutes. If staying over stay at the Guadacorte Park hotel. About 65 euros. Don't take the breakfast it is awful and there are nearby cafes in the shopping mall.

Cleofas on the other hand is harder to find. Road towards Gibraltar from the E15. You will drive towards Campamento, at the big roundabout after the Gibraltar turning take third right towards the cemetery (signposted) and it is the first road on your right and is lit up. A tiny club. Very Spanish feel and the owner (Tony) works most nights. Barman Frank speaks good English. Only 6-8 girls to choose from. A nice pool table in the middle of the club that Frank, Tony and some of the girls will play you on. Girl drinks are 20 e or 40 e for champagne (and it is genuine). Rooms 140/ hour. Great atmosphere, no clock watchers and they look after you.

Enjoy the trip to the far end of the CDS and please report on your trip!

Nomeymom
08-07-20, 00:01
Ok so Fontana is a big club (bigger inside than E92) on the main A7 road along the coast. You keep on going past the signs for Gibraltar towards Cadiz and Algeciras. It is Junction 113 B, around the roundabout, take the sign for Guadacorte, past the Guadacorte Park Hotel and it is on the right. You can park underground. 10 e entry buys your first drink as in Scandalos. Club doesn't really get going until gone midnight. Girl drinks from 30 euros now and rooms are 180 e for an hour. I have no idea about 30 minutes but you are not going to travel this distance along the coast for 30 minutes. If staying over stay at the Guadacorte Park hotel. About 65 euros. Don't take the breakfast it is awful and there are nearby cafes in the shopping mall.

Cleofas on the other hand is harder to find. Road towards Gibraltar from the E15. You will drive towards Campamento, at the big roundabout after the Gibraltar turning take third right towards the cemetery (signposted) and it is the first road on your right and is lit up. A tiny club. Very Spanish feel and the owner (Tony) works most nights. Barman Frank speaks good English. Only 6-8 girls to choose from. A nice pool table in the middle of the club that Frank, Tony and some of the girls will play you on. Girl drinks are 20 e or 40 e for champagne (and it is genuine). Rooms 140/ hour. Great atmosphere, no clock watchers and they look after you.

Enjoy the trip to the far end of the CDS and please report on your trip!How many girls usually work in fontana? Is it on the same level as 92? I'm assuming its just a club too no casino etc.

PayForIt
08-07-20, 10:16
How many girls usually work in fontana? Is it on the same level as 92? I'm assuming its just a club too no casino etc.Yep just a club with no casino. However, if you are in a car and not public transport (unlikely in that part of spain as no trains etc) there is the huge and impressive admiral casino complex at Junction 124 of the main E15/ A7. Massive casino. Not just roulette. Everything. You need your passport to get in. Table during Covid don't open until 10 pm but there is a large number of machines for roulette and everything else. The beers are cheap and the food. Fabulous and really cheap. Got a club sandwich there last week - 8 euros and I literally could not eat it all. Was like a plate of sandwiches ready for 4 people!

Fontana girls. Before 11 pm you'll think the club is totally dead and might see only 6-8 girls working. That's the benefit of E92 - the girls hit the bar early. But by 1. 30 am in Fontana it is a total party and you can fine 40-50 girls. More of a mix than any of the other clubs on the coast. Probably 50/50 latinas from South America and Eastern Europe. I've had some great nights in there. Rooms are 180/ hour and its like Scandalos. You are NOT in the girl's own room so the phone goes. Annoying. But worth one trip at least. There are two sisters working at Fontana at the moment. Well over 6'ft in heels, long hair, Moroccan and if you go in there you are certain to want to try them. Hope you got to session with Ina at E92 - she can be a cold fish in the bar a bit but she is excellent in the room. Let me know and please report if you get to Fontana.

TeddyBears
08-07-20, 16:36
Thank you for reporting on Scandalo again! Their price structure is fucked up, but I will at least visit once upon my arrival next week! Can't stay away from all those Latinas LOL.

PayForIt
08-08-20, 08:13
Thank you for reporting on Scandalo again! Their price structure is fucked up, but I will at least visit once upon my arrival next week! Can't stay away from all those Latinas LOL.I have to tell you three things to try to assist - (1) do not spend most of your time inside the club. The better looking girls remain on the two terraced areas. One to the left of the entrance leading to a bar there. And the other to the right of the entrance. I don't know why but the pretty girls tend to stay outside!

(2) you need to get in there quickly if you are going at all. Big jump in Covid cases on the CDS in the last week and moves to close clubs. I will be surprised if any of the clubs are open in 2 weeks time.

(3) although I picked badly and had a poor experience, there were at least 5 truly stunning girls. Much higher level than normal. So very much worth the trip if you can make it.

TeddyBears
08-08-20, 15:50
Thanks for sharing PFI.

PayForIt
08-12-20, 02:36
Anticipated departure from CDS did not happen for various reasons. Here for a bit longer yet.

Back to E92 tonight. Name and number on entry but no ID verification and saw a "Mickey Mouse mobile 01234567890000" so not serious.

Punters cannot approach the bar. Waiter brings drinks. Casino opened 9 pm. Main club lounge opened midnight. A few new girls including one Latina who must be only just 18. Too young for me. Pretty. Usual suspects all still in the club.

Had an extremely profitable night on the roulette table which prompted an upgrade to suite. Jacuzzi, massive round bed, a genuinely excellent upgrade and well worth it. Bed large enough for 5 but restrained myself to 2 hours with the insatiable Ina (Ivana Trump double. Great body and excellent service and skills) and her friend Daniella brunette, great personality, great skills and very pretty. For the second hour we included recent favourite of mine Elena. A truly sensational 2 hours with 3 girls I know really well and we all had a party with multiple orgasms for all and a lot of laughter, fun, a few drinks and none of it cost me a penny. Not a single dime. I am grateful to the roulette wheel for throwing up my numbers consistently for 20 minutes of glory which prompted the party.

Good line up. Lots to choose from who are very tempting. Great atmosphere. Will for sure be back. Club got very busy indeed around 2 pm with a lot of Moroccan guys. Good business for the ladies and the club. A great night at E92.

The Cane
08-12-20, 21:11
Anticipated departure from CDS did not happen for various reasons. Here for a bit longer yet.

Back to E92 tonight. Name and number on entry but no ID verification and saw a "Mickey Mouse mobile 01234567890000" so not serious.

Punters cannot approach the bar. Waiter brings drinks. Casino opened 9 pm. Main club lounge opened midnight. A few new girls including one Latina who must be only just 18. Too young for me. Pretty. Usual suspects all still in the club.

Had an extremely profitable night on the roulette table which prompted an upgrade to suite. Jacuzzi, massive round bed, a genuinely excellent upgrade and well worth it. Bed large enough for 5 but restrained myself to 2 hours with the insatiable Ina (Ivana Trump double. Great body and excellent service and skills) and her friend Daniella brunette, great personality, great skills and very pretty. For the second hour we included recent favourite of mine Elena. A truly sensational 2 hours with 3 girls I know really well and we all had a party with multiple orgasms for all and a lot of laughter, fun, a few drinks and none of it cost me a penny. Not a single dime. I am grateful to the roulette wheel for throwing up my numbers consistently for 20 minutes of glory which prompted the party.

Good line up. Lots to choose from who are very tempting. Great atmosphere. Will for sure be back. Club got very busy indeed around 2 pm with a lot of Moroccan guys. Good business for the ladies and the club. A great night at E92.Some guys have all the luck. Literally. Congratulations PFI!

PayForIt
08-12-20, 23:16
Some guys have all the luck. Literally. Congratulations PFI!Thanks. I sure got very very luck last night have left the CDS now. And probably not before time. Looks like sadly Covid Rates are on a sharp rise in Marbella. Really hope it calms for everyone there. Hope you can return to your former mongering glories in the not too distant future. Until then. Stay safe.

PayForIt
08-12-20, 23:44
Some guys have all the luck. Literally. Congratulations PFI!Thanks. I sure got very very luck last night have left the CDS now. And probably not before time. Looks like sadly Covid Rates are on a sharp rise in Marbella. Really hope it calms for everyone there. Hope you can return to your former mongering glories in the not too distant future. Until then. Stay safe.

TeddyBears
08-14-20, 04:29
I have just returned back to my hotel in Benalmadena after my first visit at Estark92 since the lockdown. There are plenty of ladies there, a lot more Latinas than before I would say and not as many eastern European girls as there used to be? After entering the club I took my time as usual, there are always a few girls trying to take you to the room straight away. I tend to stay away from those girls even if one of them actually was just my type today, anyway after a while a black girl with a killer body enters the club area with her friends and they walked straight down to a table with guys and apparently a few more girlfriends. Her name was Judy from Cuba she is very thin with a pair of perfectly shaped silicon tits, she wore a black mask at her time in the club. I juts knew I had to get this girl, so after she moved away from those guys and her friends I followed her and did the common Q&A and had a look on her face under that mask. Her face is not as beautiful as her body, but still attractive enough probably in her early 30's. Just a few moments later I was lying in her bed having her cum hard in DATY then after that she went for a 69 and here were the only negative thing with her, she actually did CBJ even though we had agreed on BBBJ downstairs, I wasn't to happy about it but I didn't want to spoil the session either so I let it slide. She was very nice to fuck as well, and she kisses passionately which I like. I will repeat her!

I didn't see the girls you were with PFI, so maybe they had an off day? But I didn't think the lineup was too impressive, I had choices absolutely but real stunners were lacking in my opinion.

Later at night I spotted a very tight young girl with no body fat a cute face and fantastic smile, her name was Catalina from Colombia 20 years old!! She had relatively long tight legs with a fitness trained ass, as soon as I've seen her my mind was set! But she spoke zero English! Which is a slight problem for me because I understand most of what they speak, but I can't really communicate with them in Spanish. So a bit frustrating, because the Q&A was lacking which never is good IMO. Went to the room with her, and there were a few problems that would have made me to back away from her in the club, such as there are absolutely no kissing, no DATY and the blowjob was of course covered! Normally would this combined lack of service be a nightmare, but this girl have a golden vagina and she could ride like a champ as well, she was so tight so I had to slow down several times not to cum to fast, only spent half an hour with her so €80 to have sex with such a beautiful girl was worth it after all. Don't think I will repeat but you should never say never! LOL.

PayForIt
08-14-20, 10:23
I have just returned back to my hotel in Benalmadena after my first visit at Estark92 since the lockdown. There are plenty of ladies there, a lot more Latinas than before I would say and not as many eastern European girls as there used to be? After entering the club I took my time as usual, there are always a few girls trying to take you to the room straight away. I tend to stay away from those girls even if one of them actually was just my type today, anyway after a while a black girl with a killer body enters the club area with her friends and they walked straight down to a table with guys and apparently a few more girlfriends. Her name was Judy from Cuba she is very thin with a pair of perfectly shaped silicon tits, she wore a black mask at her time in the club. I juts knew I had to get this girl, so after she moved away from those guys and her friends I followed her and did the common Q&A and had a look on her face under that mask. Her face is not as beautiful as her body, but still attractive enough probably in her early 30's. Just a few moments later I was lying in her bed having her cum hard in DATY then after that she went for a 69 and here were the only negative thing with her, she actually did CBJ even though we had agreed on BBBJ downstairs, I wasn't to happy about it but I didn't want to spoil the session either so I let it slide. She was very nice to fuck as well, and she kisses passionately which I like. I will repeat her!

I didn't see the girls you were with PFI, so maybe they had an off day? But I didn't think the lineup was too impressive, I had choices absolutely but real stunners were lacking in my opinion.

Later at night I spotted a very tight young girl with no body fat a cute face and fantastic smile, her name was Catalina from Colombia 20 years old!! She had relatively long tight legs with a fitness trained ass, as soon as I've seen her my mind was set! But she spoke zero English! Which is a slight problem for me because I understand most of what they speak, but I can't really communicate with them in Spanish. So a bit frustrating, because the Q&A was lacking which never is good IMO. Went to the room with her, and there were a few problems that would have made me to back away from her in the club, such as there are absolutely no kissing, no DATY and the blowjob was of course covered! Normally would this combined lack of service be a nightmare, but this girl have a golden vagina and she could ride like a champ as well, she was so tight so I had to slow down several times not to cum to fast, only spent half an hour with her so 80 to have sex with such a beautiful girl was worth it after all. Don't think I will repeat but you should never say never! LOL.Nice report. Yes, more latinas than before. Bit surprised Elena / Alicia / Ina / Daniella were not present. Perhaps they were busy as they are ever presents in the club.

I've contemplated Cuban Judy a few times but not been to the room with her but after your report I may just try her.

I think have seen the girl you say is Catalina. Does she have a tiny hint of almost Asian? Long brunette / slim legs / tall? She was in the bar after I'the finished my marathon the other night. Great body but sounds a little staid in the room.

Let us know when you visit Scanadlos. You will find a lot more head turners but then 220/ hour is far from cheap.

TeddyBears
08-14-20, 15:11
I think have seen the girl you say is Catalina. Does she have a tiny hint of almost Asian? Long brunette / slim legs / tall? She was in the bar after I'the finished my marathon the other night. Great body but sounds a little staid in the room.

Let us know when you visit Scanadlos. You will find a lot more head turners but then 220/ hour is far from cheap.Catalina had long slim legs, very thin figure with a perfect set of firm be-Cup tits, touch of asian? No wouldn't say that, she has light brown hair. She needs some education in the art of sex as she clearly needs some pointers when it comes down how to suck a cock, she wasn't one bit enthusiastic in the room which meant I only stayed for half an hour. It can come down to lack of chemistry due to the fact we couldn't really communicate as well?! She is more cute than beautiful, but with that body and that tight vagina, it's hard to say you shouldn't go there!

Just found out that my old 'girlfriend' is working at Scandalos at the moment, we have a very problematic relation to each other so I need to think it through about going there. I will try to find out what day she has an off day, so I can visit at least once.

TeddyBears
08-14-20, 16:24
According to media all nightclubs, disco's, bars etc have to close at 1 am from today so there will be no more humping at nighttime!

This is of course very serious for the clubs and girls that get their main income after midnight.

PayForIt
08-15-20, 02:23
According to media all nightclubs, disco's, bars etc have to close at 1 am from today so there will be no more humping at nighttime!

This is of course very serious for the clubs and girls that get their main income after midnight.Thought this might come. It didn't stop me having a total party in Cleofas tonight. My usual Monika and Dina but joined tonight by the very pretty Daniella. Blonde from right here in Spain and clearly was a local. Had a fantastic night. Expensive but a real blast and of course with lockdown looming or clubs closing it is a case of making hay whilst the sun shines.

ShooBree
08-16-20, 00:27
According to media all nightclubs, disco's, bars etc have to close at 1 am from today so there will be no more humping at nighttime!

This is of course very serious for the clubs and girls that get their main income after midnight.I wonder if the clubs will get going earlier and the possibility of an all nighter after the club closes will increase.

PayForIt
08-16-20, 14:25
I wonder if the clubs will get going earlier and the possibility of an all nighter after the club closes will increase.So the intention was to be that there would be no access to clubs after 1 am. So as long as you were present inside before 1 am you were fine. But last night (Saturday) I exchanged messages with "friends" (ladies working in Scandalos / E92/ Fontana and Cleofas) and also with two owners of the stated clubs. None of the clubs were closed. All were open, the 1 am rule was not in operation. However at E92 there is a meeting with the police to decide what to do this week. Cleofas will decide on Monday. Will post more when I know more. What is very clear though is that there is a real drive to try to keep them open. Economic considerations are being listened to as well as public health.

PayForIt
08-17-20, 23:37
I wonder if the clubs will get going earlier and the possibility of an all nighter after the club closes will increase.Well despite the increasing number of cases along the CDS (several of the Malaga players having tested positive) the update at least for the moment is (perhaps surprisingly) no change. Scanadlos and E92 remain open, same for Fontana. Cleofas (Campamento) remains open but the bar area is closed. Drinks on the outside patio then in the room with the girls only.

TeddyBears
08-22-20, 03:35
E92 was closing at 1 am on Tuesday this week, as I understood you could stay in the room after that.

PayForIt
08-23-20, 00:26
E92 was closing at 1 am on Tuesday this week, as I understood you could stay in the room after that.The easy way around this is to book a room in the hotel - 75 e for the night or 165 if you want to splash out on the suites which are much better and have huge beds and jacuzzis. Had a great time with three ladies in one a few weeks ago.

DasBooty
08-24-20, 00:10
Arrived Friday 23.45 and the bouncer pointed me to a table with hand sanitizer and then to write my name and number on a sheet by the door to the bar. At this point I was still wearing a mask but I removed it right before going through the doors leading to the bar when I noticed that no one inside was wearing one. Place was kind of full but small! Men only by the tables on the left and girls on the right side of the bar. Not many girls to choose from (about 10) so I picked a short Romanian girl (Athena) that resembled a young Jennifer Love Hewitt. Ordered a Vodka cocktail (12€) and talked to her for 10 min before we agreed upon 30 min with bbj and CIM for 130€ (80+50). We actually ended up staying for more than 1 h and she hinted that I should tip her but I laughed it off. Then she asked me if I had 1 to give her which I did. She just had to get something extra from me eh? Service was good except that she refused to use the condom that I brought. Left the place at 01.15.

Came back on Saturday but much earlier, 22.30, thinking I would have more to choose from. I was alone with 30 girls! It was really awkward. So much that I immediately lost my buzz and almost decided to leave. I went to the bar and ordered a cola zero which cost f*cking 9€! What a rip off. Had a repeat with Athena, 1 h 150€ bbj+CIM and my condom. Better service this time around. Left the place at 23.45 and there were 3-4 guys hanging around by the bar.

CoastGuy62
08-24-20, 14:04
Was there Saturday 00:15 but they close the doors 00:00 and they did not let me in. And I think I meet Athena outside on her way in a car with some guys.

New try on Sunday 23:45 and the place was crowded with people, but not enough for the girls and I had a lots of offers that I was not interested of. Too crowded in my opinion. It was a bit uncomfortable because of the Covid shit so I left, maybe not so crowded tonight, maybe I be the only King in the rom.

Steve 9696
08-24-20, 16:43
Arrived Friday 23.45 and the bouncer pointed me to a table with hand sanitizer and then to write my name and number on a sheet by the door to the bar. At this point I was still wearing a mask but I removed it right before going through the doors leading to the bar when I noticed that no one inside was wearing one. Place was kind of full but small! Men only by the tables on the left and girls on the right side of the bar. Not many girls to choose from (about 10) so I picked a short Romanian girl (Athena) that resembled a young Jennifer Love Hewitt. Ordered a Vodka cocktail (12) and talked to her for 10 min before we agreed upon 30 min with bbj and CIM for 130 (80+50). We actually ended up staying for more than 1 h and she hinted that I should tip her but I laughed it off. Then she asked me if I had 1 to give her which I did. She just had to get something extra from me eh? Service was good except that she refused to use the condom that I brought. Left the place at 01.15.

Came back on Saturday but much earlier, 22.30, thinking I would have more to choose from. I was alone with 30 girls! It was really awkward. So much that I immediately lost my buzz and almost decided to leave. I went to the bar and ordered a cola zero which cost f*cking 9! What a rip off. Had a repeat with Athena, 1 h 150 bbj+CIM and my condom. Better service this time around. Left the place at 23.45 and there were 3-4 guys hanging around by the bar.I am stuck in the US and only way to go at the moment is with Sugar Babies. So jealously reading any thread with action and CDS and Medellin and very few others have it going on. CDS seems unique that club scene is still happening. Enjoy while you can!

Are you saying you agreed a half hour, stayed over an hour and then only paid for the half hour? If so, I would say that is not right. She absolutely deserves a tip for that and is very gracious for not being more difficult about it. If however you ended up paying an hour rate and no tip, then you would be in the right IMO. But paying a half and staying a whole and no tip is uncool IMO.

The 9€ Non alcoholic drink is unsurprising to me. The clubs can't generally make money off the girls legally so covers and drinks is where it's at for the club income. I've paid $20+ in Moscow and a heart stopping $27 (alcoholic) in São Paulo at nice clubs. It's part of their business model. So bless them I am HAPPY to pay it!

Soooo missing the clubs. Enjoy while you can.

ShooBree
08-24-20, 18:51
Read some interesting reports in a local forum regarding Scandalo. According to one poster Scandalo is functioning as a hotel and they've new prices: 150€ for 30 minutes 300€ for 60. The drinks are 25€, 50€ for lady drinks and the drinks can only be consumed upstairs in the room.

PayForIt
08-25-20, 00:26
Read some interesting reports in a local forum regarding Scandalo. According to one poster Scandalo is functioning as a hotel and they've new prices: 150 for 30 minutes 300 for 60. The drinks are 25, 50 for lady drinks and the drinks can only be consumed upstairs in the room.Interesting indeed. Hope not true. It was bad enough at 220 hour. I won't be returning at these prices at all.

The Cane
08-25-20, 00:45
Interesting indeed. Hope not true. It was bad enough at 220 hour. I won't be returning at these prices at all.Yes, those prices are absolutely unacceptable for mongering in Spain. For Germany I will go that high, because I know exactly what services I can get for that money at an FKK. But in Spain, the service levels are all over the place. I'm sure plenty of tutes in Spain will try to charge 300 euros an hour without offering anal and BBBJ / CIM being included, plus no kissing and other things a monger might want and rightly deserve for parting with that level of funds. Fuck that! I had already pretty much decided to stay away from Spain because I felt price points had gotten out of hand relative to the level of service that could be expected. It's not uniform enough for me. So if this news is true, then it will only solidify my decision as you know other clubs will follow suit. They will just push prices up and clients out the door until their business model is unsustainable, and they ultimate collapse and have to close. Well, I'm not paying that in Spain. The hell with them!

DasBooty
08-26-20, 06:33
I am stuck in the US and only way to go at the moment is with Sugar Babies. So jealously reading any thread with action and CDS and Medellin and very few others have it going on. CDS seems unique that club scene is still happening. Enjoy while you can!

Are you saying you agreed a half hour, stayed over an hour and then only paid for the half hour? If so, I would say that is not right. She absolutely deserves a tip for that and is very gracious for not being more difficult about it. If however you ended up paying an hour rate and no tip, then you would be in the right IMO. But paying a half and staying a whole and no tip is uncool IMO.

The 9 Non alcoholic drink is unsurprising to me. The clubs can't generally make money off the girls legally so covers and drinks is where it's at for the club income. I've paid $20+ in Moscow and a heart stopping $27 (alcoholic) in So Paulo at nice clubs. It's part of their business model. So bless them I am HAPPY to pay it!

Soooo missing the clubs. Enjoy while you can.Yes, paid 130€ for 30 min but stayed for an hour. She wasn't that bothered about it though, she was all smiles day 2. Day 2 rate with her was 150€ for 1 h which is far more reasonable.

PayForIt
08-26-20, 22:31
Yes, those prices are absolutely unacceptable for mongering in Spain. For Germany I will go that high, because I know exactly what services I can get for that money at an FKK. But in Spain, the service levels are all over the place. I'm sure plenty of tutes in Spain will try to charge 300 euros an hour without offering anal and BBBJ / CIM being included, plus no kissing and other things a monger might want and rightly deserve for parting with that level of funds. Fuck that! I had already pretty much decided to stay away from Spain because I felt price points had gotten out of hand relative to the level of service that could be expected. It's not uniform enough for me. So if this news is true, then it will only solidify my decision as you know other clubs will follow suit. They will just push prices up and clients out the door until their business model is unsustainable, and they ultimate collapse and have to close. Well, I'm not paying that in Spain. The hell with them!Not sure I agree the other clubs follow suit. Hasn't happened on the CDS. Miladys palace was 300 / hour for the last 10 years! Hasn't affected the other clubs much. E92 is still 150/ hour, Fontana and Glass palace Estepona 180/ hour and Cleofas 140/ hour. I very much doubt if the other clubs would follow this lead at all. The girls are desperate for work. Scanadalos just has a unique clientele now of mainly Moroccan guys willing to pay these prices. Such a shame. Once a great club has gone downhill.

The Cane
08-26-20, 22:43
Not sure I agree the other clubs follow suit. Hasn't happened on the CDS. Miladys palace was 300 / hour for the last 10 years! Hasn't affected the other clubs much. E92 is still 150/ hour, Fontana and Glass palace Estepona 180/ hour and Cleofas 140/ hour. I very much doubt if the other clubs would follow this lead at all. The girls are desperate for work. Scanadalos just has a unique clientele now of mainly Moroccan guys willing to pay these prices. Such a shame. Once a great club has gone downhill.I meant generally speaking throughout Spain. Not just the CDS. The new factor in all of this as opposed to before when Scandalo raised prices is the pandemic and clubs having to shut down and / or scale back. I mean this has been going on worldwide for about half a year already! I think there will be tremendous pressure to raise prices in an attempt to survive, especially if this thing continues to push on, which I think it will. Only time will tell who will be the winners and losers, and who will survive! If it were me, I would try to undersell my direct competitors if I could to build a long-term advantage.

PayForIt
08-26-20, 22:59
Yes, paid 130 for 30 min but stayed for an hour. She wasn't that bothered about it though, she was all smiles day 2. Day 2 rate with her was 150 for 1 h which is far more reasonable.Thanks for the reports. Glad you got there at least!

Arriving early is my favourite. You have the choice! But with current rules the club will not admit entry for anyone after midnight. Given the increases in cases along the CDS it is fortunate that all clubs are still open.

ShooBree
08-27-20, 12:14
Thanks for the reports. Glad you got there at least!

Arriving early is my favourite. You have the choice! But with current rules the club will not admit entry for anyone after midnight. Given the increases in cases along the CDS it is fortunate that all clubs are still open.Scandalo is closed, its only functioning as a hotel according to their website.

http://newscandalo.com/

Nomeymom
08-28-20, 02:08
I posted a few weeks ago about an incident where the condom came off in e92 with one of the girls upstairs.

Just got an outbreak of GW which I have never had before.

Can't believe it.

How can they let these women work when they have active HPV.

Its with me for life now.

Jummy1
08-28-20, 17:30
I posted a few weeks ago about an incident where the condom came off in e92 with one of the girls upstairs.

Just got an outbreak of GW which I have never had before.

Can't believe it.

How can they let these women work when they have active HPV.

Its with me for life now.Unlucky, LOL.

I'm sure Anadalus Expat will be along soon with some more advice about the perils of clubs.

I still think you are fantasist.

Grow up.

Nomeymom
08-29-20, 22:31
Unlucky, LOL.

I'm sure Anadalus Expat will be along soon with some more advice about the perils of clubs.

I still think you are fantasist.

Grow up.You're mental about fantasist I'm just pissed off they are allowed to work when they have these infections I thought everyone there was vetted mate come on now.

PayForIt
08-30-20, 00:13
You're mental about fantasist I'm just pissed off they are allowed to work when they have these infections I thought everyone there was vetted mate come on now.But how are you 100% it was there? Did you not monger anywhere else on the CDS. Your reports suggested you did. The possibility of GW from a short period when a condom come off is incredibly low. You may just have gotten incredibly unlucky. The girl might not know she has anything. GW are similar to the herpes simplex virus. Many carry it and have no idea. If you've ever had a cold sore. Or kissed someone who did. It could have happened years ago without you knowing and it's only just presented. You are assuming because of a condom hiccup this was the cause. No disrespect but you just cannot know that.

Jummy1
08-30-20, 06:58
You're mental about fantasist I'm just pissed off they are allowed to work when they have these infections I thought everyone there was vetted mate come on now.My philosophy is this: if you are going to stick your head into a Lions mouth, don't expect to always come away without a scratch!

It's the same if you are prepared to insert other parts of the anatomy into dubious places.

I certainly wouldn't come onto a forum like this looking for any form of sympathy or understanding.

Haitek
10-01-20, 19:24
I went to Estark92 on Sunday and yesterday. The club is open from 5 pm to 1 am, at 1 am the club closes the doors but lets the customers inside drink and play with the girls until 2 am. Only the casino side is open.

There are about 25 girls, Latinas and Romanians. Every time I have been there are a maximum of 20 clients, no more.

The situation is certaintly difficult for the girls. The positive side for us customers is the girls are very available. For exemple, I took a Bulgarian who comes from Vive in Madrid, without the closing of the clubs in Madrid, she would not have come to work at Estark92.

The prices have not changed in Estark92 for girls (80 euros for 30 min, 100 for 40 min 150 for 60 min) and for drinks (9 euros a beer, 12 a gin tonic or a whisky coca).

I went to Scandalo, 5 girls are waiting on the terrace, that's all. I did not stay.

PayForIt
10-06-20, 01:09
I went to Estark92 on Sunday and yesterday. The club is open from 5 pm to 1 am, at 1 am the club closes the doors but lets the customers inside drink and play with the girls until 2 am. Only the casino side is open.

There are about 25 girls, Latinas and Romanians. Every time I have been there are a maximum of 20 clients, no more.

The situation is certaintly difficult for the girls. The positive side for us customers is the girls are very available. For exemple, I took a Bulgarian who comes from Vive in Madrid, without the closing of the clubs in Madrid, she would not have come to work at Estark92.

The prices have not changed in Estark92 for girls (80 euros for 30 min, 100 for 40 min 150 for 60 min) and for drinks (9 euros a beer, 12 a gin tonic or a whisky coca).

I went to Scandalo, 5 girls are waiting on the terrace, that's all. I did not stay.Thanks for the report. Not sure it was needed in the main forum as well!!

Prices for drinks. That is odd as recently (August) it had increased to 30 for a girl drink. Good if they've changed that back.

Thanks again. Glad to hear some Vive girls are in town.

ShooBree
10-06-20, 18:36
I went to Estark92 on Sunday and yesterday. The club is open from 5 pm to 1 am, at 1 am the club closes the doors but lets the customers inside drink and play with the girls until 2 am. Only the casino side is open.

There are about 25 girls, Latinas and Romanians. Every time I have been there are a maximum of 20 clients, no more.

The situation is certaintly difficult for the girls. The positive side for us customers is the girls are very available. For exemple, I took a Bulgarian who comes from Vive in Madrid, without the closing of the clubs in Madrid, she would not have come to work at Estark92.

The prices have not changed in Estark92 for girls (80 euros for 30 min, 100 for 40 min 150 for 60 min) and for drinks (9 euros a beer, 12 a gin tonic or a whisky coca).

I went to Scandalo, 5 girls are waiting on the terrace, that's all. I did not stay.Thanks for your great report!

I heard from a local forum that the girls are working in shifts, they were 40 ladies in total the last Sunday. Before I read that I was asking myself what had happened with all the working girls.

MagicSheep74
10-09-20, 22:29
We'll back to Marbella after a year in the wilderness.

Findings so far.

Estark 92 - 1st October- 10 pm.

Temperature taken and sign in at the door.

All the same prices, just the Casino area open. Closed at 1 am, but can party in the rooms afterwards if you wish.

Didn't see anything I wanted to take upstairs, probably around 20 girls milling around. Nothing above a 6/10 for me.

Scandalo - 8th October - 10 pm.

Temperature at the door, name and number. Have to buy a 25 euros vouchers before being lead into the VIP bar area on the right hand side. Gets you 2 free drinks.

Around 25 girls available, seen about 2 or 3 that were quite nice. 7/10 or above. Mostly Latin.

Choose a girl named Ruby from Argentina. Recently left Madrid due to clubs being close.

Cracking body and good service. Steep at 120 euro's an hour.

Pleasantly surprised.

www.mansionbabylonmarbella.com - 7th October - 8 pm.

No checks going into this villa close to Marbella. Drinks 7 euros.

Girls 10 - customers - 0.

Took a very cute Cuban girl 8/10 - 120 euro for 30 minutes.

Excellent room, like the place, girls all seen very new to the game and quite inexperienced.

Anyway had to take the lead, girl was quite shy. The place is very handy for me as it 5 minutes from my house.

The CDS is still alive and kicking, unlike me as I now on a ventilator, LOL.

PayForIt
10-10-20, 08:52
We'll back to Marbella after a year in the wilderness.

Findings so far.

Estark 92 - 1st October- 10 pm.

Temperature taken and sign in at the door.

All the same prices, just the Casino area open. Closed at 1 am, but can party in the rooms afterwards if you wish.

Didn't see anything I wanted to take upstairs, probably around 20 girls milling around. Nothing above a 6/10 for me.

Scandalo - 8th October - 10 pm.

Temperature at the door, name and number. Have to buy a 25 euros vouchers before being lead into the VIP bar area on the right hand side. Gets you 2 free drinks.

Around 25 girls available, seen about 2 or 3 that were quite nice. 7/10 or above. Mostly Latin.

Choose a girl named Ruby from Argentina. Recently left Madrid due to clubs being close.

Cracking body and good service. Steep at 120 euro's an hour.

Pleasantly surprised.

www.mansionbabylonmarbella.com - 7th October - 8 pm.

No checks going into this villa close to Marbella. Drinks 7 euros.

Girls 10 - customers - 0.

Took a very cute Cuban girl 8/10 - 120 euro for 30 minutes.

Excellent room, like the place, girls all seen very new to the game and quite inexperienced.

Anyway had to take the lead, girl was quite shy. The place is very handy for me as it 5 minutes from my house.

The CDS is still alive and kicking, unlike me as I now on a ventilator, LOL.Great report. Thanks. I think you meant steep price at Scandalos was 220 not 120/ hour. If it was 120 / hour there would be a long queue out the door!

Hope to back in CDS soon enjoying the delights and will give the villa you mention a try.

TeddyBears
10-14-20, 00:41
I went to visit Estark92 the last week the first time I think it was on Thursday then I found myself being in that area about 19:30 or something like that, well anyway I decided to go in and see what's going on at that hour since they close earlier now. The answer is nothing more or less, as expected. Only 10 girls present none of them doable in my opinion and two punters. As others have pointed out before me, only the cafeteria area is open now.

Next time I was visiting was Saturday night, came around 23:30 there must have been about 30 girls on site. In my opinion there are not any stunners at all, I would say that there are only a handful of doable girls and the ambience is just plain boring with no music, maximum of 6-7 punters and the girls just sits there without making any efforts to make some money.

After talking about the details with Gabriela a fairly attractive Brazilian girl who has been working at Estark92 the last few years. I went up with her and had a good time for an hour, the girl can move! She fucked me good I must say, I have been with her before and wasn't that pleased then I remember, that's why we run through the details now! No kissing on the lips but everywhere else, and she sucked bareback this time, she usually doesn't so you need to talk with her before you take her to the room.

I came back late on Sunday as well with a friend of mine, he was drunk so he went up with the two first ladies that confronted him! And they weren't attractive I must say! LOL.

There were about the same amount of ladies on Sunday night, but as mentioned the ambience is so boring, it kind of feels like a funeral at times. On Sunday night there were even less customers than Saturday so I decided to go home without seeing anyone.

Let's hope they loosen up the restrictions regarding closing time soon, because I find it hard to see that anyone except the few doable girls at this club even break even at the moment. There are apparently hardly any customers at the club at the moment, didn't even see more than a couple of Arabic guys with questionable attitude this time.

PayForIt
10-15-20, 22:57
I went to visit Estark92 the last week the first time I think it was on Thursday then I found myself being in that area about 19:30 or something like that, well anyway I decided to go in and see what's going on at that hour since they close earlier now. The answer is nothing more or less, as expected. Only 10 girls present none of them doable in my opinion and two punters. As others have pointed out before me, only the cafeteria area is open now.

Next time I was visiting was Saturday night, came around 23:30 there must have been about 30 girls on site. In my opinion there are not any stunners at all, I would say that there are only a handful of doable girls and the ambience is just plain boring with no music, maximum of 6-7 punters and the girls just sits there without making any efforts to make some money.

After talking about the details with Gabriela a fairly attractive Brazilian girl who has been working at Estark92 the last few years. I went up with her and had a good time for an hour, the girl can move! She fucked me good I must say, I have been with her before and wasn't that pleased then I remember, that's why we run through the details now! No kissing on the lips but everywhere else, and she sucked bareback this time, she usually doesn't so you need to talk with her before you take her to the room.

I came back late on Sunday as well with a friend of mine, he was drunk so he went up with the two first ladies that confronted him! And they weren't attractive I must say! LOL.

There were about the same amount of ladies on Sunday night, but as mentioned the ambience is so boring, it kind of feels like a funeral at times. On Sunday night there were even less customers than Saturday so I decided to go home without seeing anyone.

Let's hope they loosen up the restrictions regarding closing time soon, because I find it hard to see that anyone except the few doable girls at this club even break even at the moment. There are apparently hardly any customers at the club at the moment, didn't even see more than a couple of Arabic guys with questionable attitude this time.Thanks for that report Teddybears though it makes grim reading! I hope to be back there this Saturday. I normally go see Sandra and check into a room first but I think I will check the LU before doing that this time. What is odd is that I WhatsApped Elena (Ro) yesterday and she said that although she went home (to Ro) Ina (blonde Ivana Trump lookalike), Daniella (her friend. Brunette) and blonde curly Alicia are still all at the club. Whilst none of those three are 10/10 I'the put them all at 7's or 8's and definitely doable. Indeed I have had great rooms with all three. But to each their own. I don't know Gabriella but if she has the usual SA bum (large) I wouldn't approach her as its not for me. Hence might not know her for that reason. If E92 is awful I'll have to head to expensive Scandalos. Probably a better choice but cannot abide paying 220 for an hour and fighting about the time after 45 minutes when the phone rings.

Will report on findings. Thanks for yours. Very informative. I assume they are still selling alcohol and allowing use of the roulette (to make some cash?

PayForIt
10-18-20, 10:51
Returned to E92 last night. I am a little bemused about a couple of things from recent reports.

Firstly, lady drinks are still 30 euros. Not less.

Secondly, of course we all like different things. But the guys who have reported that the LU is weak obviously have different tastes to me! I consider myself too picky. I don't like curvy (fat) girls. I'm not a fan of big silicones. I like pretty faces and don't go with girls who are not pretty. I have particular likes and dislikes in the room and I interview downstairs in the club before taking girls upstairs. If they are unwilling or just don't like what I like / want I don't take them however optifuk they are! So given that I have a long list of requirements, you would think I would find it hard to choose. And I feared from recent reports that I would struggle last night. Well, I did struggle. There were too many good choices!

For sure some ladies have gone. Along with my favourite Julia (gone one year now), Daniella (brunette Romanian), Elena (recent favourite), Ana (blonde Marilyn Monroe), Monika (brunette gone to Fontana), Denisa (slim Ro Brunette) - all gone.

But the options were still terrific for me. New Angela. Tall brunette Ro with amazing natural Dee cups. I always like the black lady (I think her name is Jahira. Or something similar) but have never been with her despite a recent report of her being superb in the room. I must return for her (and Angela). But along with my long time friend / fav Alicia (curly blonde Ro with good body and excellent natural. Gives great service), there was Maria (short blonde bob hair, pretty if a little curvy), Selena. Brazilian blonde with banging body, Adriana. Very young brunette Brazilian with very pretty face, and then Alicia's new friend Monica. Another one! Dark yes, long brunette hair, absolutely 10/10 gymnastic body. I honestly did not know who to choose. So a very pleasant surprise as I was expecting a miserable atmosphere (as Teddy Bears found) and no real options.

Booked into the suite, great big round bed and jacuzzi. Eventually (after much roulette with Angela. Not the new one who is tall but pretty but too skinny) girl, great English and good fun) took Alicia and new Monica to the suite for 2 hours and a fabulous time was had. Monica is hard to control in the room. Fabulous service from both.

I believe I'll be on CDS for a while now. And I intend to sample all of the above choices. I don't say that there is a large selection of Vive level stunners (though there are three now there from Vive Madrid which is closed), so not that level. But when I can have two excellent girls in a room without clock watching for 600 I have no intention of going to Scandalos, paying 220 per hour for one girl only and having the maid ring the room after 45 minutes. Even if you have checked the time with her first! My session last night with two equivalent girls in Scandalos would have cost 1080 euros! I bought Alicia and Monica two girls drinks (30 each x2). So my room cost 600+ 120 = 720. Still a lot for a great night out, and excludes the costs of my drinks, but still nearly 400 euros less than the same action in Scandalos. So whilst there are still good options in E92 it (and Cleofas. Monika and Deana) will remain my preferred choice on CDS.

I respect that other guys want pretty South American beauties with big asses! Just not for me and I suppose that's it. Whilst there are some SA girls in E92 with the exception of Adriana they are not very pretty and / or are too curvy for me. But the EE offerings remain more than sufficient for me.

The club atmosphere was fine. Sure there is no music, and only the casino / cafeteria open. But people were in good spirits given what is going on in the world and I had a great time. Whilst the club officially closes at 1 am, if you are in before that time the bar remains open until 2 am. And you can party in the rooms all night if the mood takes you.

Happy mongering.

TeddyBears
10-18-20, 16:14
Great report PFI.

I might have been unlucky that maybe the girls you mention have been in the room or had a day off when I visited the club or the possibility that we fancy different ladies!? I prefer pretty South American girls over eastern European but not the ones with big booties that's not for me either then they'll have to be rock hard as in fitness trained! Even if one of the independent ladies I choose to see last week has indeed a bigger booty than most (Thae).

Honestly it doesn't really matter as long as you are happy with the choices at the club! Totally agree with you about the price structure at Scandalo, it's definitely not worth those money they're asking for at that club. Just as you I also have a very clear idea what I want to happen in the room and it can't be echoed enough that a bit of Q&A is important before heading to the room.

Highlight of my week was undoubtedly Sakura a young independent stunning Spanish / Japanese girl that was super friendly with a great natural body and a personality that matched her beauty. For €120 an hour it's a no brainer if you are attracted in asian ladies. She doesn't work every week, told me she lives in Marbella with her family.

PayForIt
10-18-20, 19:36
Highlight of my week was undoubtedly Sakura a young independent stunning Spanish / Japanese girl that was super friendly with a great natural body and a personality that matched her beauty. For 120 an hour it's a no brainer if you are attracted in asian ladies. She doesn't work every week, told me she lives in Marbella with her family.Yep the "in the rooms" thing is always possible. I fancied a session with Ina (Ivana trump lookalike) last night. Impossible - she was in the room (save for being in the bar for 10 minutes) from when I arrived at 9. 30 pm until I took my two up at midnight.

Will give Sakura a shot. Don't normally do independents but big recommendation and the price is obviously good. I assume you visited her rather than brought her to you?

PayForIt
10-21-20, 22:10
And so to the return to Cleofas in Campamento near Gibraltar. This quirky little club still represents great value - 140/ hour for the girls, 20 e girls drink and a good standard 8 ball pool table. The owners keep it friendly and barman Frank is great fun.

Several girls left last week leaving only 4 to choose from early in the week. It mattered not to me. Whilst the latinas were a little curvy for me, one of my favs Dina (Moroccan brunette) was present, looked great, tight shorts and sexy red lipstick and she gives fantastic service in the room. Did my usual deal of 250 for 2 hours which in the current climate the girls on CDS outside of scandalous Scandalos (prices) will do. Amazing session. For once not joined by another girl and the Queen of Cleofas (Monica) Blonde Ro is in Madrid.

Another great night at Cleofas. Small, fun and haven't had a bad night there. For sure the options are very limited but somehow it's always a good night there.

Pepe1976X
10-23-20, 10:37
Hi Payfor It,

Great to hear you are making the most of your time "down South " ! And as Judith Charlmers used to say " wish I was there " ! Always previously enjoyed a 48 hour visit to Aleciras region. Avoiding the tourists and being treated with respect by the locals as they see far few Whities! Would not necessarily recommend a whole week in that region but as a days rest before maybe going to Cadiz is always wonderful.

Having spoken to my old wingman Angus! Recently I know there are fantastic opportunities available to Punters at present. There must be 10 WG for every Punter currently with the tourists not travelling and the Spanish being skint. I a can imagine the scenario of the 5/10 Club Putas becoming almost intolerable "cling ONS" as they are so desperate for money! Having recently looked at Passion I see there are plenty of indies coming back to work at very attractive prices!

Well enjoy and make the most of the once in a life time opportunity!

Regards.

Pep.

PayForIt
10-23-20, 23:03
Hi Payfor It,

Great to hear you are making the most of your time "down South "

Having spoken to my old wingman Angus! Recently I know there are fantastic opportunities available to Punters at present.

Pep.Hi Pep, good to hear from you as always. It's all a bit weird. I'm not sure I'm the right type to take advantage. I'm a sucker for a sob story and a lot of these girls are really struggling. It's meant my girl drinks, and tips have increased as well as my spending in the rooms. But then I take the view that you cannot take the cash with you and presently that might not be a long time for any of us. So make the most of it. Likely to return to E92 tomorrow and have my eye on 4 girls. I intend to have "an FKK day in Spain" and hit the club really early - 7 pm, one hour in the room, go eat, back, 1 hour at 9 pm, relax, beers, casino and finish with a three or foursome in the jacuzzi in the suite. If this covid malarkey is going to take me out I'm going out with a bang! Or more than one! Hopefully I'll dodge the bullet.

Take care, keep safe and hope you are able to return to fun in the sun soon.

PayForIt
10-25-20, 15:18
Back to E92 last night. Same situation, name on door, mobile, casino open not the club. Not even after midnight.

LU has changed a little. Some girls have headed home early for Christmas but some new arrivals including the three from Club Vive Madrid which is closed. One particularly attractive Ro. Tall dark hair bit didn't get a name as she was constantly busy.

Most of the usual candidates were present. Couldn't resist another session with Monica (Ro) - very slim, fabulous toned body and very pretty. She was wearing some black and silver lingerie which was incredibly sexy. Great service and we were joined for an hour by Lily. Brasiliera, very pretty if a bit curvy for me. Great fun for 3 hours in the red suite (third floor). Happy the autumn hour was added. Needed it! Another great night at E92 which is largely unaffected by the virus so far.

Haitek
10-27-20, 08:52
E92 remains open with the curfew, but closes its doors at 11:00 pm.

PayForIt
10-27-20, 10:15
E92 remains open with the curfew, but closes its doors at 11:00 pm.This is entirely correct thanks. But if you want to "play" for longer than 11 pm you need to book one of their rooms (standard is e75 suite 160 e but they will accept 120 e and the suites have huge round bed and jacuzzis which work and are great fun). I discovered that the curfew means people should be home or in their hotel room by 11 pm. For those wanting some fun but wanting to return home, realistically it will mean being in the room no later than 9. 30 pm. But it is the same if you are visiting a club, a villa or even an independent. She cannot be returning home after 11 pm, and neither could you if you visited her. So mongering is still possible after 11 pm but only if you are in a room and the girl is also staying in the same "hotel" or stays the night with you.

PayForIt
11-04-20, 01:29
Decided (Saturday) to try Scandalos despite the scandalous prices of 220/ hour. Greeted on the door by the lovely Jemma. Host / manager. Temperature taken and sanitised. Into club. What a total disaster. No approach to the bar. Sit at one table and wait for waitress (for drinks) and girls to approach. No possibility of preventing many doing so I had no intention of going with. The LU was truly awful. Worst I've ever seen and don't forget that these girls want 220/ hour! I left after one drink and headed to E92. Another 2 hours with my favourite Monica Ro. A genuine 10/10 body. Great service. Options for threesome with either Alicia, Marianna, Angela, Kelly (blonde Brasiliera), Ina (Ivana Trump double) or a new very pretty Ro brunette. Just a little curvy for me. Did 2 hours with Monica and sexy Marianna. Fantastic time. Thank God for E92 - won't be back to Scandalos for some time.

PayForIt
11-22-20, 22:14
Had a legitimate reason for being in the municipality for a business meeting on Friday. Decided to stay over in one of the suite rooms at E92. I had rather expected everything to close at 6 pm (it opens at 12 noon now) so got there for 5 pm, thinking I would need to take a girl to the room before 6 pm. Totally wrong.

As Star of the Sea is a Hotel, legitimately, and always has been, it remains "open" until 11 pm. It is possible in the cafeteria for hotel residents (only) to purchase food, and "room service" drinks. The casino remains open as does the fitness centre (which is actually very good with a large variety of equipment all in good working order).

So, work out, jacuzzi, into the bar area. The lack of customers due to the restrictions and club "closing" at 6 pm means a lot of the girls have headed home to Romania for the winter. There were in fact only 11 girls working. The lowest number I have ever seen.

For guys arriving at the club after the 6 pm closure of bars and restaurants, they are asked to pay for a room deposit to be a resident. There were only about 8 guys in the club. There is no music so it does all feel a bit low key.

Despite the low numbers I genuinely struggled to decide who to take up to the room with my new favourite Monica. A stunning brunette from Romania with an athletic body to die for, a really pretty face and very intelligent.

I've contemplated Kelly (blonde Brazilian) several times, as well as a couple of other latinas, one with great naturals and a good body but little bit of a big booty. Then there is the very elegant brunette from Romania who wears long skirts / evening dress. She was keen to win at the roulette (but didn't). I ended up selecting Kelly. Though not as excellent service wise as Monica, she was still great fun, large boobs and really got into it. 2 fabulous hours with the two of them.

For sure it isn't the same. It is a very low-key version of the club. But hats off to the management for keeping it going and to the girls who are hanging it out there. Several of them live near to the club and told me they will remain working throughout the pandemic. And the club owner told me he has no intention of closing completely whatever happens. And will keep the club going through thick and thin until things improve in 2021. And when they do. For sure. I will be back if not before!

The Cane
11-22-20, 22:17
Had a legitimate reason for being in the municipality for a business meeting on Friday. Decided to stay over in one of the suite rooms at E92. I had rather expected everything to close at 6 pm (it opens at 12 noon now) so got there for 5 pm, thinking I would need to take a girl to the room before 6 pm. Totally wrong.

As Star of the Sea is a Hotel, legitimately, and always has been, it remains "open" until 11 pm. It is possible in the cafeteria for hotel residents (only) to purchase food, and "room service" drinks. The casino remains open as does the fitness centre (which is actually very good with a large variety of equipment all in good working order).

So, work out, jacuzzi, into the bar area. The lack of customers due to the restrictions and club "closing" at 6 pm means a lot of the girls have headed home to Romania for the winter. There were in fact only 11 girls working. The lowest number I have ever seen.

For guys arriving at the club after the 6 pm closure of bars and restaurants, they are asked to pay for a room deposit to be a resident. There were only about 8 guys in the club. There is no music so it does all feel a bit low key.

Despite the low numbers I genuinely struggled to decide who to take up to the room with my new favourite Monica. A stunning brunette from Romania with an athletic body to die for, a really pretty face and very intelligent.Sounds like that's more like it! You lucky bastard! As I sit here in America without good options.

PayForIt
11-30-20, 00:57
Sounds like that's more like it! You lucky bastard! As I sit here in America without good options.Not for long my friend. Leaving CDS for pastures new this week. And from Andalus Experts (my new name for him!) comments in the main thread, probably good timing.

2 trips to Glass Palace to finish off the trip last week and one to E92. GP is functioning as a hotel, 60 to stay over, 20 entry. I was surprised at how many girls were working. Mixed LU. Best of the bunch were two from Dom Republic. Lexi - brunette very pretty good in the room, and Corina. Slim, young, sexy. E92 on Friday was dead again. There remain only 6 girls left in the club. Spoke to the owner who laughed at the idea of closure. The club will remain open unless laws close it or the pandemic lasts 3 years! Good news.

I have one final round left tomorrow with the pretty Dina from Cleofas. Full service (and I mean very full) - no holds barred and a really intelligent girl. Then will wave goodbye to Spain for the foreseeable. The "market" on the CDS has suffered due to the pandemic. No doubt ditto worldwide. Let's hope 2021 sees the vaccine, mobility, and a return to 'normal".

TeddyBears
12-23-20, 21:43
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year gentlemen! Hopefully will 2021 be filled with P4P again!

Stay safe and take care of your loved ones.

PayForIt
12-28-20, 00:46
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year gentlemen! Hopefully will 2021 be filled with P4P again!

Stay safe and take care of your loved ones.And to you TB. I was lucky enough to be able to enjoy our sport in Asia, Dubai, Singapore, KL, Thailand, Germany (FKKs), London, Manchester and our beloved CDS during 2020. So I really cannot complain. Not in Spain now and am unlikely to be before Feb. Am in contact with staff and girls at Scandalos, E92, Glass Palace, Fontana and Cleofas and most are reporting that business remains very low despite the relaxation of restrictions in Spain. The problem presently is the lack of tourists and I know the girls and clubs don't make much money out of the locals. That said, I haven't heard of anyone suggesting that any of the clubs will close, and hopefully therefore your wish, which I'm sure we all share, for P4 P to return to former glories in 2021 will come true. I suspect when most have been vaccinated in latter part of 2021 we will see a true resurgence. Was in Germany 2 weeks ago (not FKK) and the quality of the EE girls has improved. As money becomes tight, more glamorous girls are prepared to turn to the oldest profession. So hopefully 2021 will be blessed with rich pickings! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all members and I echo TBs hopes!

Qazwsx5
01-07-21, 22:59
Hello guys,

Has anyone tried the clubs recently? From what I have heard the one in front of the casino in benalmadena (oro) has been sold.

Nomeymom
01-13-21, 18:30
I went on a very long walk today I realized I was a mile away from Estark so I decided to walk there to my surprise it was open at 4 pm.

Apparently the opening times are 2 - 8 pm now.

I went in and there was a decent amount of girls in there (approx 15-18) and around 4/5 punters.

I saw about 5 I'd go up with and I've got standards.

Two of them were hot. Ivanka trump looking one is there too easy (8.5/10).

I was stinking of sweat and garlic so I went home I'm going to go back tomorrow and go on a mad rampage. Wish me luck.


Hello guys,

Has anyone tried the clubs recently? From what I have heard the one in front of the casino in benalmadena (oro) has been sold.

Qazwsx5
01-14-21, 22:52
I went on a very long walk today I realized I was a mile away from Estark so I decided to walk there to my surprise it was open at 4 pm.

Apparently the opening times are 2 - 8 pm now.

I went in and there was a decent amount of girls in there (approx 15-18) and around 4/5 punters.

I saw about 5 I'd go up with and I've got standards.

Two of them were hot. Ivanka trump looking one is there too easy (8.5/10).

I was stinking of sweat and garlic so I went home I'm going to go back tomorrow and go on a mad rampage. Wish me luck.Thats great, please report tomorrow after your visit.

PayForIt
01-16-21, 14:47
I went on a very long walk today I realized I was a mile away from Estark so I decided to walk there to my surprise it was open at 4 pm.

Apparently the opening times are 2 - 8 pm now.

I went in and there was a decent amount of girls in there (approx 15-18) and around 4/5 punters.

I saw about 5 I'd go up with and I've got standards.

Two of them were hot. Ivanka trump looking one is there too easy (8.5/10).

I was stinking of sweat and garlic so I went home I'm going to go back tomorrow and go on a mad rampage. Wish me luck.Good to hear and I know 4 or 5 of the girls who message me who say that they are doing fine. The club owner told me before end of November when I left CDS that E92 would remain open unless the law prevented it. If you've not been on your rampage yet, you might want to think of taking a room at E92 for the night. €75 but you might get a deal right now. Whilst the club closes to people coming in at 8 pm the hotel remains open all night. Including the bar and casino for "room service" so you'll be able to stick around, play the casino and take any number of girls to your room long after 8 pm.

Ina, (the Ivana Trump lookalike) gives fantastic service in the room. Well worth trying as are Blonde curly haired Alicia and dark haired Monika (very slim, intelligent and sexy). All of them care about service and if you are staying 1 hour + will make sure you have a great time. Enjoy and please report. Thanks.

Qazwsx5
01-16-21, 23:15
Good to hear and I know 4 or 5 of the girls who message me who say that they are doing fine. The club owner told me before end of November when I left CDS that E92 would remain open unless the law prevented it. If you've not been on your rampage yet, you might want to think of taking a room at E92 for the night. 75 but you might get a deal right now. Whilst the club closes to people coming in at 8 pm the hotel remains open all night. Including the bar and casino for "room service" so you'll be able to stick around, play the casino and take any number of girls to your room long after 8 pm.

Ina, (the Ivana Trump lookalike) gives fantastic service in the room. Well worth trying as are Blonde curly haired Alicia and dark haired Monika (very slim, intelligent and sexy). All of them care about service and if you are staying 1 hour + will make sure you have a great time. Enjoy and please report. Thanks.Hello PayForIt,

Nice to hear from you, are you going to come back any time soon? Where are these ones that you named from? Are they EE or Latina? I am very picky (like you I think) who are the best ones that you can suggest?

Thanks.

PayForIt
01-17-21, 01:18
Hello PayForIt,

Nice to hear from you, are you going to come back any time soon? Where are these ones that you named from? Are they EE or Latina? I am very picky (like you I think) who are the best ones that you can suggest?

Thanks.No plans to return presently. Am enjoying other pastures. In addition to Ina, Alicia and Monika. All EE Romanians there are other Romanians there who give good service and are slim. Like you I don't much like curvy or fat ass Latinas. Chrstina Ro. V pretty but a little heavy. Nicole, blonde with glasses, v slim and good in the room. Maria, shoet blonde Ro, again a little heavier but superb service. Another Monika, brunette, brace on teeth. V pretty, v slim and great service. Ana, blinde looks like Marylin Monroe. Selective about who she rooms with. Very pretty. Marianna still there. Short mousey hair, slim. Fabulous BBBJ.

Any notion of not many EEs being on CDS is, respectfully, a lack of knowledge of clubs.

I far prefer picking from a LU I can see than the horrible bait and switch of websites. Most villa prices are heavy and you have to chose quickly. In the clubs, take your time, talk to the girls, chose with your eyes and ears and have a lot of fun. Good luck.

Qazwsx5
01-17-21, 13:11
No plans to return presently. Am enjoying other pastures. In addition to Ina, Alicia and Monika. All EE Romanians there are other Romanians there who give good service and are slim. Like you I don't much like curvy or fat ass Latinas. Chrstina Ro. V pretty but a little heavy. Nicole, blonde with glasses, v slim and good in the room. Maria, shoet blonde Ro, again a little heavier but superb service. Another Monika, brunette, brace on teeth. V pretty, v slim and great service. Ana, blinde looks like Marylin Monroe. Selective about who she rooms with. Very pretty. Marianna still there. Short mousey hair, slim. Fabulous BBBJ.

Any notion of not many EEs being on CDS is, respectfully, a lack of knowledge of clubs.

I far prefer picking from a LU I can see than the horrible bait and switch of websites. Most villa prices are heavy and you have to chose quickly. In the clubs, take your time, talk to the girls, chose with your eyes and ears and have a lot of fun. Good luck.Great, thanks for the info.

I agree with you that clubs are safer choice, because you have many options, can relax or even leave if you don't like anything, safer and cleaner. However if you have time, you can also find very nice independent ones who give great service and cheaper, but I never ever try them without other punters recommending them (picky punters of course) .

I must go and try the ones you have mentioned, I am sure they are great.

There are some nice villas too as you say but they are pricer and not sure if they are worth it. I mean the ones on agency websites are 300 upwards, I don't dare to try them unless someone very experienced says that they are worth it.

BTW do you know how scandalo is doing? Is the one (most beautiful one that you like) still there?

Thanks.

Qazwsx5
01-17-21, 21:25
A few questions before going.

Does any one know if you still have to do the sign in thingy (leaving name and contact details) or not anymore?

Where is the entrance now? The main door (star of the sea is closed or not).

Is the bar closed? I mean where does everyone hang around in there, you have to sit down or can you move around and find what you like?

PayForIt
01-22-21, 00:58
A few questions before going.

Does any one know if you still have to do the sign in thingy (leaving name and contact details) or not anymore?

Where is the entrance now? The main door (star of the sea is closed or not).

Is the bar closed? I mean where does everyone hang around in there, you have to sit down or can you move around and find what you like?Can only answer from pre Christmas and some private messages from the girls but: (1) yes sign in. But they just don't check so you could put John Smith and anything that looks like a mobile. I think it is more to show the police that they are trying on track and trace! (2) go through casino entrance not main hotel entrance (3) the bar is not closed. It is open during opening hours of the club (till 8 pm) but as indicated in a previous post, if you are in there by 8 pm and say you are staying in the club, then because it is a "hotel" with paying guest rooms, the bar area and casino remain open for "guests" who wish to order food and drinks. So its really no different than normal (save for less punters and girls than the normal amount in non-pandemic times) with the girls in the bar / casino area. You are lucky to be there. I would be in E92 regularly if I could get there currently. Enjoy and please report.

Qazwsx5
01-22-21, 14:23
Can only answer from pre Christmas and some private messages from the girls but: (1) yes sign in. But they just don't check so you could put John Smith and anything that looks like a mobile. I think it is more to show the police that they are trying on track and trace! (2) go through casino entrance not main hotel entrance (3) the bar is not closed. It is open during opening hours of the club (till 8 pm) but as indicated in a previous post, if you are in there by 8 pm and say you are staying in the club, then because it is a "hotel" with paying guest rooms, the bar area and casino remain open for "guests" who wish to order food and drinks. So its really no different than normal (save for less punters and girls than the normal amount in non-pandemic times) with the girls in the bar / casino area. You are lucky to be there. I would be in E92 regularly if I could get there currently. Enjoy and please report.I planned on going there this weekend but unfortunately municipal borders have been shut again since Monday or something. I possibly can walk there as I don't live too far away from it. But don't want to get there all swaethy and stuff as the weather is really warm now. Not too sure if its worth the risk to go here by car, but will see what happens because the restrictions will be lifted in 8, 9 days I think.

I am hearing that the lineup is very decent, not just estark but everywhere along the coast, also the Russian apartment in fuengi has some lovely ones ATM, I ve been told, not too sure if you know the place or not.

PayForIt
01-23-21, 12:29
I planned on going there this weekend but unfortunately municipal borders have been shut again since Monday or something. I possibly can walk there as I don't live too far away from it. But don't want to get there all swaethy and stuff as the weather is really warm now. Not too sure if its worth the risk to go here by car, but will see what happens because the restrictions will be lifted in 8, 9 days I think.

I am hearing that the lineup is very decent, not just estark but everywhere along the coast, also the Russian apartment in fuengi has some lovely ones ATM, I ve been told, not too sure if you know the place or not.I would wait the few days until its over rather than drive. Could be a very expensive trip if you get fined. But take the walk slowly and in any event every room has a shower.

Don't know the Russian apartment. I tend to stay away from anything but clubs now (save for privates I know from clubs where I am happy to go to their apartments as I already know what they look like so no bait and switch. If the Russian apartment lets you select from a line up that's fine I suppose.

When you do get to E92 you'll meet the stunning Julia who messaged me last week to say she has returned to the club after a year away. She says that surprisingly the club is busy and doing well despite the troubles. She is brunette, long hair 10/10 figure and fantastic in the room. She is friends with Ina. The girl who is blonde, tall and looks like Ivana Trump.

Enjoy when you get there.

SouthernOcean
01-23-21, 13:16
I have been a lover of Latin American countries for mongering, but I would like to try Spain. I see no reports for Madrid. I would be traveling in about a year so the covid-19 scare should be over. So where in Spain do I go for the best experience and the costs. Will probably do the airbnb route for lodgings. I dislike using the websites as they are deceptive in Latin America as well. What type of girls dominate the business. Are they as beautiful as the Colombians.

Qazwsx5
01-23-21, 14:13
I would wait the few days until its over rather than drive. Could be a very expensive trip if you get fined. But take the walk slowly and in any event every room has a shower.

Don't know the Russian apartment. I tend to stay away from anything but clubs now (save for privates I know from clubs where I am happy to go to their apartments as I already know what they look like so no bait and switch. If the Russian apartment lets you select from a line up that's fine I suppose.

When you do get to E92 you'll meet the stunning Julia who messaged me last week to say she has returned to the club after a year away. She says that surprisingly the club is busy and doing well despite the troubles. She is brunette, long hair 10/10 figure and fantastic in the room. She is friends with Ina. The girl who is blonde, tall and looks like Ivana Trump.

Enjoy when you get there.Yes, you are right, I think I would wait a few days till it is over. BTW do the ones you have mentioned give BBBJ and DFK, or is it an extra? Because I have never been there and don't know what to expect and how to approach them.

PayForIt
01-24-21, 00:58
Yes, you are right, I think I would wait a few days till it is over. BTW do the ones you have mentioned give BBBJ and DFK, or is it an extra? Because I have never been there and don't know what to expect and how to approach them.Very much depends on several factors. Firstly, if you book a girl for 30 minutes only your prospects of BBBJ and DFK are almost zero. If you choose one of the less popular girls who is in bad need of cash / her fee for the room (though they are being very generous / relaxed with the girls about this during the pandemic) you might get lucky. If you book a girl for an hour, or more, BBBJ will almost certainly be included. But ask in the bar first. As it is your first time and they don't know you it is possible you will be considered easy new meat, and they'll ask for extra. Some girls don't do it at all. Since the start of the pandemic I've noticed some girls use the excuse on DFK that they don't want to exchange body fluids. So they won't do DFK, BBBJ or DATY. Of course if either of you was infected with the virus the high probability is that given the close contact in the room, you'd get it anyway!

I think what you will find is that you attend once, pick a girl, do an hour, and return second time, even if your girl didn't do BBBJ and / or DFK first time out, once they see you are likely to be a regular they will be more inclined to agree. Believing they won't want to lose a possible regular.

Normal rule applies. Ask in the bar to make sure what is on offer before agreeing to go to the room.

Qazwsx5
01-24-21, 01:50
Very much depends on several factors. Firstly, if you book a girl for 30 minutes only your prospects of BBBJ and DFK are almost zero. If you choose one of the less popular girls who is in bad need of cash / her fee for the room (though they are being very generous / relaxed with the girls about this during the pandemic) you might get lucky. If you book a girl for an hour, or more, BBBJ will almost certainly be included. But ask in the bar first. As it is your first time and they don't know you it is possible you will be considered easy new meat, and they'll ask for extra. Some girls don't do it at all. Since the start of the pandemic I've noticed some girls use the excuse on DFK that they don't want to exchange body fluids. So they won't do DFK, BBBJ or DATY. Of course if either of you was infected with the virus the high probability is that given the close contact in the room, you'd get it anyway!

I think what you will find is that you attend once, pick a girl, do an hour, and return second time, even if your girl didn't do BBBJ and / or DFK first time out, once they see you are likely to be a regular they will be more inclined to agree. Believing they won't want to lose a possible regular.

Normal rule applies. Ask in the bar to make sure what is on offer before agreeing to go to the room.Thanks PayForIt,

The thing is it is going to be my first time going to a big club (like Estark, Scandalo, etc) because I always felt awkward going to big clubs where there are many clients and the good ones are always taken or are not willing to please because they always have clients.

First time with someone I usually do 30 min to see how the service is up there, and do 60 min the next time, but thanks for the advice, I understand now that it is different at these clubs.

Body / face are very important for me (like you) so I won't be going up with the less popular ones, I always prefer the nice ones even if they don't do the things that I look for. There is no point in going up with someone who does everything but doesn't look good, you won't enjoy it.

I am sure that the good ones never approach you but the less popular ones will attack you as soon as you enter, so I need to be prepared for that, not to fall into this trap. (easier said than done to be honest).

BTW, the rates are fixed or you have to haggle?

I am sure that the good ones never approach you but the less popular ones.

Qazwsx5
01-24-21, 13:17
I have been a lover of Latin American countries for mongering, but I would like to try Spain. I see no reports for Madrid. I would be traveling in about a year so the covid-19 scare should be over. So where in Spain do I go for the best experience and the costs. Will probably do the airbnb route for lodgings. I dislike using the websites as they are deceptive in Latin America as well. What type of girls dominate the business. Are they as beautiful as the Colombians.Well Spain is great for everything really, specially mongering. There is a page for Madrid if you are just interested in Madrid, well I am not an expert but for the best experience I would suggest Madrid, costa del sol (Malaga) (this page actually), and Barcelona. And the costs can range from low to the super luxury one (1 month salary for an hour), but expect to pay on average 150-200 an hour. The workers are from all over the world, but lots of Latina (if that's what you like) and from other EU countries.

PayForIt
01-26-21, 00:37
I have been a lover of Latin American countries for mongering, but I would like to try Spain. I see no reports for Madrid. I would be traveling in about a year so the covid-19 scare should be over. So where in Spain do I go for the best experience and the costs. Will probably do the airbnb route for lodgings. I dislike using the websites as they are deceptive in Latin America as well. What type of girls dominate the business. Are they as beautiful as the Colombians.Hi. Sorry I missed your post. Firstly, as Qaz rightly says, there is indeed a Madrid forum. Presently you will find it very hard to visit Spain at all unless you are a Spanish resident or have an essential reason to travel (there are only three almost universally accepted (1) essential business travel (2) medical appointment or (3) educational reasons. In case you were wondering you can not put on the form "I am in Madrid to be educated by beautiful hookers in Club Vive on the art of sex". Nice try. Won't work!

Assuming your post is more generally about when things return to normal, whatever that is, or whenever that will be, then Madrid is an excellent mongering destination. Club Vive is renowned throughout Europe. It is a very large warehouse in northern Madrid but accessible by metro or cab. Cheap entry (about 17 euros) but prices in the club are very expensive - 50 euro drinks for the lady if you are happy to pay, and 240/ hour in the room and nobody will gov for 30 minutes.

They are the negatives. The positive is that it hosts the best selection of girls from all over the world and I mean the latter. You can ask the barman for a Russian, American, Japanese, Brazillian, Swedish, British or you name her. They will have some there! And the standard is off the scale. You will see many 10/10 girls. Worth a visit if only once in your life!

Other options. Pigmallion - club. Even more expensive.

Flowers Park. Long way out by cab and not that great in my view.

Factory Air. Club - not that far out. Very big club, great rooms, some excellent girls, cheaper than Vive.

Club Hot. In town, good if you like public sex as much of it in booths with curtains which don't stay shut!

My old favourite. Hotel Diana Park. Estark - cheap to get there by cab, 10 euros entry buys you first drink, small intimate club. Girls are between 100-150 per hour and will do 30 minutes. A strange mix of many girls you wouldn't dream of going with and always one or two real beauties. And I'm picky.

Madrid is a beautiful city and well worth visiting not just for mongering. Hope you get there and enjoy.

PayForIt
01-26-21, 00:57
Thanks PayForIt,

The thing is it is going to be my first time going to a big club (like Estark, Scandalo, etc) because I always felt awkward going to big clubs where there are many clients and the good ones are always taken or are not willing to please because they always have clients.

First time with someone I usually do 30 min to see how the service is up there, and do 60 min the next time, but thanks for the advice, I understand now that it is different at these clubs.

Body / face are very important for me (like you) so I won't be going up with the less popular ones, I always prefer the nice ones even if they don't do the things that I look for. There is no point in going up with someone who does everything but doesn't look good, you won't enjoy it.

I am sure that the good ones never approach you but the less popular ones will attack you as soon as you enter, so I need to be prepared for that, not to fall into this trap. (easier said than done to be honest).

BTW, the rates are fixed or you have to haggle?

I am sure that the good ones never approach you but the less popular ones.You sound pretty much like me on what you want. A really good looking girl. It is also very good practice to do what you say. Take the girl up for 30 minutes to see if the chemistry is there (and the body! But whilst that's great practice in a German FKK club, and the girl will often give DFK / BBBJ (was standard until law changed in 2017) and DATY, in the Spanish clubs, they are so used to guys only going for a quick 30 minute wham bam thank you mam, taking 10 minutes, that they won't believe you'll extend. If you are happy with this, tell them you'll do 30 minutes and see how its going. You'll be likely to only get BBBJ and no DFK. If you like the girl, the body is as good as the face (and trust me if you choose any of Julia / Ina / Alicia / Daniella / Monica it will be) then ask if they will agree to BBBJ and DFK if you agree now (and pay) to extend to the hour and I think you'll find they will all agree. There are one or two who will simply not do BBBJ since covid. You need to ask before you go to the room if it is on the agenda if you stay longer than 30 minutes.

Haggling on price. For 30 minutes no. It is 80 euros take it or leave it. For one hour no -150 and again deal or no deal. No negotiation. I fully appreciate that affordability is relevant for everyone. For me, if I'm having a fantastic night in a club I like, and I love E92, I will select a girl I like (and probably but not always know), and I'll offer 250 for two hours (so getting 50 off the normal price but guaranteed time with the girls). Some agree, some don't. In the past 3 years, I've rarely had anyone say no. And that includes the prettiest girls in the club because, like you, I won't go with anyone I don't find facially and bodily very attractive. If that means walking out I'll do that and have done many times. It is why using escorts who advertise online is not for me. Tried for a final time last year and had x3 disasters. Bait and switch. Girl is nothing like the pics and fat. I wouldn't have allowed some of those three to pay me for sex let alone the opposite. Truth is most online workers are doing it because they wouldn't get selected in a club. Or are at the very high end. So want 400+ per hour and won't work in clubs because they won't get that. In E92 the girl pays 75 euros to stay in the "hotel" but ALL of the money you pay her is hers. So she has her own "hotel room" and she can go there with you for free, for 80/150 or whatever she decides. If I really like two girls I'll offer a joint deal - 250 each for 2 hours and have a total party. I've had a lot of those in E92!

On approaching. Many of the girls do and many don't. Don't worry about it. E92 is not a "big" club. Compared to Scandalos or the clubs in Madrid it is very small. Especially now that the club area is closed! So only the bar and small casino. Very cosy! And you need not think there will be lots of clients. But even if there were. This is not bad it is good. It means you are not getting hounded by the girls too much, can sit quietly, have a beer, see what is on offer. A good tip in any club is to sit at the bottom of the stairs where you can see the punters coming out who just finished with a girl. If they are both laughing, he gives her a kiss goodbye, chances are that she was good fun, he looks happy and the service was good. If he storms down the stairs or looks unhappy maybe that girl is one to avoid!

But the notion that some have peddled about service in clubs being very poor is total nonsense. It's really simple economics and supply and demand. If you go into E92 once a week for say 3 weeks, or twice a week for 2 weeks, they will know you are becoming a regular and you'll be given respect if the girls see that you don't nurse one beer all night, maybe even buy a girl a drink, and always go to the room with someone. You'll have no problems at all. The staff are great in there, the girls will be friendly if you are. Not just the unattractive ones, and they will know you are a proper punter who will spend a few bob. So they will want you to be pleased so you repeat with them. Simples. I have had truly fabulous service from girls I know in clubs, and still do.

So when the restrictions (new today for that area) are lifted. Go on and head down there and I'm sure you'll have a great time. I nearly always do.

Qazwsx5
01-26-21, 22:26
You sound pretty much like me on what you want. A really good looking girl. It is also very good practice to do what you say. Take the girl up for 30 minutes to see if the chemistry is there (and the body! But whilst that's great practice in a German FKK club, and the girl will often give DFK / BBBJ (was standard until law changed in 2017) and DATY, in the Spanish clubs, they are so used to guys only going for a quick 30 minute wham bam thank you mam, taking 10 minutes, that they won't believe you'll extend. If you are happy with this, tell them you'll do 30 minutes and see how its going. You'll be likely to only get BBBJ and no DFK. If you like the girl, the body is as good as the face (and trust me if you choose any of Julia / Ina / Alicia / Daniella / Monica it will be) then ask if they will agree to BBBJ and DFK if you agree now (and pay) to extend to the hour and I think you'll find they will all agree. There are one or two who will simply not do BBBJ since covid. You need to ask before you go to the room if it is on the agenda if you stay longer than 30 minutes.Thanks PFI,

I will visit once the restrictions are lifted (tho it seems that things are getting worse), you are right about the escorts, the reason some people like it I guess is because they are normally cheaper, and some are afraid to be seen close to brothels for personal reasons. However you can find nice independent ones if you are willing to put in lots of effort, time etc, some are not pro and do it only for a short period of time and that's why they choose to work in apartments, I'm told that some very slim and nice ones are at the Russian apartment in fuengi now.

But clubs are different, it is much nicer experience because you can chill out there and there is no pressure to choose and then leave.

I prefer blonde, and I think you said there is Ana in estark who is blond. How was your experience with this one, services? And who do you think is the most beautiful one currently working there?

PayForIt
01-27-21, 01:47
Thanks PFI,

I prefer blonde, and I think you said there is Ana in estark who is blond. How was your experience with this one, services? And who do you think is the most beautiful one currently working there?That's really easy for me. Julia is one of the best looking escorts I've been with. But she is brunette. Stunning though. Of the blondes I would rate them as follows:

Alicia. Personality and attitude 10/10 - nicest girl in the club. Great natural boobs, good service, curly hair (long) body 8/10, looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

Ina - (not Ana) - looks like Ivana Trump. V tall. Pretty. Attitude 9/10. Body. Slim 9/10 (small natural boobs), great legs. Looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

Ana. Rarely there during pandemic. Looks ver like Marilyn Monroe. Same hair. Unmissable. Looks 9/10. Body 8/10, attitude - 7/10 very intelligent girl but perhaps a little cold.

Marianna. Mouse blonde. Looks 6/10 body 8/10 service 9/10.

Maria. Short bob blonde hair in a bun on top. Attitude 10/10. Service 9/10. Looks 7/10 and body 6/10 (a little curvy for me but great service).

Nicole. Short blonde hair always wears glasses. Attitude 10/10, service 9/10, body 8/10, looks 7/10. Lovely girl.

Hope that's enough. Keep safe and enjoy when you get there!

Wiild
01-27-21, 10:32
Totally agree, these 3 places are also lovely varied tourist destinations. Comparable to Medellin, Cartagena and Bogota in Colombia: each place has something unique. It is rather easy and cheap to travel: train or air. I would add that it is cheap and easy to fly over to let's say Berlin or London.

All this is when corona-situation gets better.


Madrid, costa del sol (Malaga) (this page actually), and Barcelona.

Qazwsx5
01-28-21, 00:17
That's really easy for me. Julia is one of the best looking escorts I've been with. But she is brunette. Stunning though. Of the blondes I would rate them as follows:

Alicia. Personality and attitude 10/10 - nicest girl in the club. Great natural boobs, good service, curly hair (long) body 8/10, looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

Ina - (not Ana) - looks like Ivana Trump. V tall. Pretty. Attitude 9/10. Body. Slim 9/10 (small natural boobs), great legs. Looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

Ana. Rarely there during pandemic. Looks ver like Marilyn Monroe. Same hair. Unmissable. Looks 9/10. Body 8/10, attitude - 7/10 very intelligent girl but perhaps a little cold.

Marianna. Mouse blonde. Looks 6/10 body 8/10 service 9/10.

Maria. Short bob blonde hair in a bun on top. Attitude 10/10. Service 9/10. Looks 7/10 and body 6/10 (a little curvy for me but great service).

Nicole. Short blonde hair always wears glasses. Attitude 10/10, service 9/10, body 8/10, looks 7/10. Lovely girl.

Hope that's enough. Keep safe and enjoy when you get there!Thank you very much.

It is great to know these things beforehand, so I think I must try Julia and Ina. Lets hope that they are not busy when I visit. Do they normally make an approach or I must go towards them?(I guess, the latter).

PayForIt
01-30-21, 00:13
Thank you very much.

It is great to know these things beforehand, so I think I must try Julia and Ina. Lets hope that they are not busy when I visit. Do they normally make an approach or I must go towards them?(I guess, the latter).Firstly you are in luck as they are best friends and will be located together unless one is busy. Easy to spot. Just look for Ivana Trump. Tall blonde very slim! Both excellent in the room. You will need to approach. They don't "work the room" as they don't really need to. They are popular. But although Ina can look a bit stern, she and Julia are really friendly and will be very happy to chat and make you feel relaxed. Have fun!

Qazwsx5
02-06-21, 20:28
Estark is open from 13 till 18, you can stay longer if you are willing to book a room and stay there.

Few girls come down to the bar at 13, though Julia and a few other nice ones are down in the bar around 1 o'clock with a few not so popular ones. You do not get attacked as expected, the atmosphere is quite chill with few punters, most of the girls start coming down to the bar at round 3 o'clock (after eating their lunch I guess), it is busiest at round 4 pm till 6 pm. Prices are same as before 30/75 (+5 for sheet and towel) or 60/150.

The girls are quite nice and very not pushy at all, and didn't ask for drinks or anything. Julia very nice person and great service.

Qazwsx5
02-06-21, 20:29
Estark is open from 13 till 18 , you can stay longer if you are willing to book a room and stay there.

Few girls come down to the bar at 13, though Julia and a few other nice ones are down in the bar around 1 o'clock with a few not so popular ones. You do not get attacked as expected, the atmosphere is quite chill with few punters, most of the girls start coming down to the bar at round 3 o'clock (after eating their lunch I guess), it is busiest at round 4 pm till 6 pm. Prices are same as before 30/75 (+5 for sheet and towel) or 60/150.

The girls are quite nice and very not pushy at all, and didn't ask for drinks or anything. Julia very nice person and great service.

Sirioja
02-07-21, 13:09
That's really easy for me. Julia is one of the best looking escorts I've been with. But she is brunette. Stunning though. Of the blondes I would rate them as follows:

Alicia. Personality and attitude 10/10 - nicest girl in the club. Great natural boobs, good service, curly hair (long) body 8/10, looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

Ina - (not Ana) - looks like Ivana Trump. V tall. Pretty. Attitude 9/10. Body. Slim 9/10 (small natural boobs), great legs. Looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

Ana. Rarely there during pandemic. Looks ver like Marilyn Monroe. Same hair. Unmissable. Looks 9/10. Body 8/10, attitude - 7/10 very intelligent girl but perhaps a little cold.

Marianna. Mouse blonde. Looks 6/10 body 8/10 service 9/10.

Maria. Short bob blonde hair in a bun on top. Attitude 10/10. Service 9/10. Looks 7/10 and body 6/10 (a little curvy for me but great service).

Nicole. Short blonde hair always wears glasses. Attitude 10/10, service 9/10, body 8/10, looks 7/10. Lovely girl.

Hope that's enough. Keep safe and enjoy when you get there!When I think will be complicated for Germany in 2021, maybe reopening in Austria and probably in Switzerland, when no ski big frustration again on this Winter, then sun and sea, with good ham with tomatoes on bread and good meat to enjoy in Spain. When much more attracted by East Europeans who close eyes and open mouth but with not much noises until storm in their belly, rather than fake porn moaning Latinas who are killing desire for me, is Estark92 more with East Europeans or Latinas? When new Scandalo seem more for Latinas? When really far from Paris, but Spain motorways are relaxing pleasure, like in Italy, when Germany is world champion for works on motorway, for low average speed.

PayForIt
02-07-21, 17:01
Estark is open from 13 till 18 , you can stay longer if you are willing to book a room and stay there.

Few girls come down to the bar at 13, though Julia and a few other nice ones are down in the bar around 1 o'clock with a few not so popular ones. You do not get attacked as expected, the atmosphere is quite chill with few punters, most of the girls start coming down to the bar at round 3 o'clock (after eating their lunch I guess), it is busiest at round 4 pm till 6 pm. Prices are same as before 30/75 (+5 for sheet and towel) or 60/150.

The girls are quite nice and very not pushy at all, and didn't ask for drinks or anything. Julia very nice person and great service.Really glad you liked Julia. She has always been terrific and very pretty. Glad to see you got to the club and enjoyed it.

PayForIt
02-07-21, 17:21
When I think will be complicated for Germany in 2021, maybe reopening in Austria and probably in Switzerland, when no ski big frustration again on this Winter, then sun and sea, with good ham with tomatoes on bread and good meat to enjoy in Spain. When much more attracted by East Europeans who close eyes and open mouth but with not much noises until storm in their belly, rather than fake porn moaning Latinas who are killing desire for me, is Estark92 more with East Europeans or Latinas? When new Scandalo seem more for Latinas? When really far from Paris, but Spain motorways are relaxing pleasure, like in Italy, when Germany is world champion for works on motorway, for low average speed.Hey. My good old pal from the FKK forums! Good to see you here Siri! I'm not in Spain presently and am unlikely to return until maybe sometime between March and May. The restrictions are significant and easier and less risky to monger in the Far East presently though I'm not a fan of the ISG forums. There are others I prefer.

I really miss FKK land. Once anybody has been to Oase, workout in the morning before, then head to Friedrichsdorf, on to the club, sunbathing around the pool with 40-50 naked beauties, a bit of football with them, or table football, lunch, an hour or so on the garden cabanas with a beautiful girl or two, into relax area, professional massage, glass of wine, sauna, swim in the pool, sunbathing with a few naked girls rubbing suntan oil everywhere, watching the long legged stunners walk by, watching the sun go down in the company of some lovely ladies, more food, party in the bar, end the day with several sessions. It's unforgettable and for me, the best sex experience in the world. And like you. I have been to a lot of places (though would love to try Brazil and have never been). But of course FKK land is closed. Likely to be closed until at least September. When enough have had the vaccine it will open. Meanwhile the clubs in Spain remain open despite a lot of restrictions.

In answer to your question, E92 is predominantly EE. Scandalos is mainly Latina. Both clubs have some of each but there are far more EE at E92. Scandalos is now 220/ hour and the mamasun is watching the clock, cheats, pinches time etc. The rooms are very basic. Nothing like the opulence of FKK Mainhattan, or Sakura. Think of the old rooms downstairs by the pool at FKK World and you'll get the picture. Lady drinks €50! It's cheaper to by a €150 bottle of champagne in FKK Sharks by the time you buy a girl three drinks in Scandalos. Mainly latinas, one or two decent EE but the girls will not negotiate on price and currently it is awful because it is table service and you cannot move around the club. E92 much better, nice vibe, some casino, small but intimate. Imagine the layout and size of FKK Mainhattan. Similar. The girls are very friendly. 80/30 minutes, 150/ hour but if you extend they will negotiate. They pay a daily fee (like in FKK land) so you can do deals (again like in FKKs). Unlike in FKKs they don't have set prices for extras like CIM / DATY / Anal. It is nearly always all included though you have to ask what the lady will do in the bar. Most do DFK but then I don't do 30 min rooms and I hear that if you only book 30 minutes its not DFK. The girls are far less happy about BBBJ in Spain until they get to know you. First trip unlikely unless you make clear at the beginning that you won't go to the room without it. They don't charge extra. It is their discretion. I know you are not a fan of quick rooms (like me) and prefer to take your time, treat a girl properly, develop some chemistry etc. It is the same all over the world. If you invest some time, as well as money, it pays off. I find that if you only invest the money, in fact the service is still not as good as ensuring the girl can see you are treating her with respect, being kind, making her laugh etc. When they feel that they will enjoy their time with you, as well as making money. The service is far better. No different to FKKs.

The weather in Spain is of course excellent. The drive from Switzerland would not be that bad. I know how much you drive anyway in Germany / Austria / France. If you plan on heading down there in March or April please do PM me. Would be great to meet up. The food is good, (you don't eat in the clubs unlike FKKs), and you could drive down for 3/4 days, take in the sun, food, some tourism and a lot of fun.

Sirioja
02-07-21, 19:58
Hey. My good old pal from the FKK forums! Good to see you here Siri! I'm not in Spain presently and am unlikely to return until maybe sometime between March and May. The restrictions are significant and easier and less risky to monger in the Far East presently though I'm not a fan of the ISG forums. There are others I prefer.

I really miss FKK land. Once anybody has been to Oase, workout in the morning before, then head to Friedrichsdorf, on to the club, sunbathing around the pool with 40-50 naked beauties, a bit of football with them, or table football, lunch, an hour or so on the garden cabanas with a beautiful girl or two, into relax area, professional massage, glass of wine, sauna, swim in the pool, sunbathing with a few naked girls rubbing suntan oil everywhere, watching the long legged stunners walk by, watching the sun go down in the company of some lovely ladies, more food, party in the bar, end the day with several sessions. It's unforgettable and for me, the best sex experience in the world. And like you. I have been to a lot of places (though would love to try Brazil and have never been). But of course FKK land is closed. Likely to be closed until at least September. When enough have had the vaccine it will open. Meanwhile the clubs in Spain remain open despite a lot of restrictions.Thanks for your informative answer. For me, no comparison between Spain and Germany which only worth for brothels and to test cars, even most of Germans are nice, but higher quality of life in Spain: sea sex and sun and much better foods. When you tell EE, you mean Romanians? Which is a quality for me for love sex, or Slavians? Do E92 girls compete for looks with prettiest at Oase? When 150/60 for GFE with a beauty is a good deal for me to take time to enjoy to take care of her, when most Spanish go mostly for fast fuck with a prostitute, so quite easy to play different game with girls, same like in Germany. I prefer pleasure rather than discount grocery, if I want to save money, better to stay at home, when would be nearly 1800 kms to drive from Paris, but should have a pit stop in north Gerona Paloma Blanca where sometimes pretty real Slavians speaking Russian, when most claimed in Germany are not able and don t understand Russian. Have You ever visited the Angelo Alicante? Which is also on the way for this long trip. When Germany is really still in trouble after nearly 1 month and half under strict lockdown, when their clubs only opened on September to close on November, when not enough vaccine now in Western Europe, so may have to adapt enjoying great Spain and I also love Gaudi and magic Barcelona on the way, when Dolomiti will remain for my sporty climbing holidays of course, maybe recovering in Austria if reopen. About same rates in Austria than E92. When unfortunately, not anymore many escorts fresh beauties in Paris now, even I started this year on high level for charm and sweetness with really cute Ukrainian Rosie rdv. I always loved Spain, like Italy, when Switzerland now and Germany are only brothels lands for me. Wait and see for what will be 2021 versus covid and more and more mutants, even I still dream about ski until April, but if not opening, then Spain could be other kind of pleasure.

PayForIt
02-08-21, 16:51
Thanks for your informative answer. For me, no comparison between Spain and Germany which only worth for brothels and to test cars, even most of Germans are nice, but higher quality of life in Spain: sea sex and sun and much better foods. When you tell EE, you mean Romanians? Which is a quality for me for love sex, or Slavians? Do E92 girls compete for looks with prettiest at Oase?Yes. By EE I mean Romanians but there are some from Moldavia too. Like in Germany. E92 is managed by a very nice Romanian guy who is really helpful. It would not be correct to say the girls in E92 all compete with the prettiest in Oase. But certainly there are some who do. Julia is really very pretty, slim, natural breasts, great service. Ina, tall blonde looks like Ivana Trump. Pretty and great service. I did a longer post recently and named most of the girls. If there, Ana, blonde looks like Marilyn Monroe. VERY pretty. One girl from Georgia. Very attractive. Mainly Romanians. A couple of very pretty latinas who are not too big.

I would be surprised if you were disappointed. The selection in Scandalos is undoubtably better. A lot more pretty girls. But then the club is currently not worth going to. Prices / attitude of the Mami, clock watching etc.

Like you, I don't like to compromise quality of the girls, sex, and service by shopping too cheaply. If Club Vive Madrid is Versace, Sharks, Oase and E92 are Hugo Boss, then Scandalos is overpriced goods, and the online escort websites in spain are cheap clothes stores!

I have never even been to Alicante so not mongered there. I prefer Madrid to Barcelona and for sure you could travel from Paris via Madrid. If you do decide to head to E92 I recommend you stay at Double Tree Hilton Higueron. Less than 1 mile away, underground secure free parking, good hotel, good food, nice views, great sports facilities and excellent gym and only around €130 per night. Good value. Currently I stay in E92 when I go because of pandemic restrictions and better to be a "hotel guest" to be able to take the girls to your room when the "hotel" closes. But in "normal" non-pandemic times, Higueron is better and if you like the girl you can take her out of the club to the hotel which is 5 minutes in a taxi or a long uphill walk!

Sirioja
02-09-21, 00:21
Yes. By EE I mean Romanians but there are some from Moldavia too. Like in Germany. E92 is managed by a very nice Romanian guy who is really helpful. It would not be correct to say the girls in E92 all compete with the prettiest in Oase. But certainly there are some who do. Julia is really very pretty, slim, natural breasts, great service. Ina, tall blonde looks like Ivana Trump. Pretty and great service. I did a longer post recently and named most of the girls. If there, Ana, blonde looks like Marilyn Monroe. VERY pretty. One girl from Georgia. Very attractive. Mainly Romanians. A couple of very pretty latinas who are not too big.

I would be surprised if you were disappointed. The selection in Scandalos is undoubtably better. A lot more pretty girls. But then the club is currently not worth going to. Prices / attitude of the Mami, clock watching etc.

Like you, I don't like to compromise quality of the girls, sex, and service by shopping too cheaply. If Club Vive Madrid is Versace, Sharks, Oase and E92 are Hugo Boss, then Scandalos is overpriced goods, and the online escort websites in spain are cheap clothes stores!

I have never even been to Alicante so not mongered there. I prefer Madrid to Barcelona and for sure you could travel from Paris via Madrid. If you do decide to head to E92 I recommend you stay at Double Tree Hilton Higueron. Less than 1 mile away, underground secure free parking, good hotel, good food, nice views, great sports facilities and excellent gym and only around 130 per night. Good value. Currently I stay in E92 when I go because of pandemic restrictions and better to be a "hotel guest" to be able to take the girls to your room when the "hotel" closes. But in "normal" non-pandemic times, Higueron is better and if you like the girl you can take her out of the club to the hotel which is 5 minutes in a taxi or a long uphill walk!Thanks again. I love Romanian natural beauties who are usually good for my game. I don't need 10, but only 1 beauty can be great for me. I'm afraid I will be disappointed but still wish for ski until April, when other than sun and good foods, but Spain worth for sea for me. I love sea, relaxing my mind, you go to swim in the sea to open your lungs and then you will be hard tool and easy for girls, what a good day: sun, sea and sex. I should think for the run after ski season. You tell girls are prettier at new Scandalo? When mostly Latinas? When I m more attracted by Romanians or Slavians. I m not into south Americans, nor black, nor Asians, even white skin tall north Chinese could attract me, if they don't moan little bird noises.

PayForIt
02-10-21, 01:01
Thanks again. I love Romanian natural beauties who are usually good for my game. I don't need 10, but only 1 beauty can be great for me. I'm afraid I will be disappointed but still wish for ski until April, when other than sun and good foods, but Spain worth for sea for me. I love sea, relaxing my mind, you go to swim in the sea to open your lungs and then you will be hard tool and easy for girls, what a good day: sun, sea and sex. I should think for the run after ski season. You tell girls are prettier at new Scandalo? When mostly Latinas? When I m more attracted by Romanians or Slavians. I m not into south Americans, nor black, nor Asians, even white skin tall north Chinese could attract me, if they don't moan little bird noises.Yep I much prefer Romanian pretty girls. But a lot of guys (and Spanish) much prefer latinas. I say the girls in Scandalos are generally of a higher standard. By no means all, the prettiest in E92 easily compete with, or are better than 90% of the girls in Scandalos. Obviously depends on the line up at any given time. There are ugly girls in both clubs!

I love a day starting with a run or swim in the sea, good fish for breakfast, long walk in the sun, sunbathing, swimming, workout, more sun in the afternoon, great food for dinner. Then great sex during the evening. Spain offers all of this!

I find latinas facially very pretty. But I don't like girls with big asses. And that's a lot of latinas! I prefer slim athletic girls. Like Julia / Ina / Monika / Stephany. All at E92. If you don't like S Americans I would totally avoid Scandalos. There are a few at E92 but it is still predominantly Romanian. Enjoy the skiing until April and head to the sun. A friend in Berlin told me today that he believes Artemis will open in May. It was one of the last FKKs to close. Obviously depends on vaccines / new strains. Some suggestion of travel health pass. Having to show vaccine certificate. One club owner in Thailand has now introduced "test negative to enter". Blood test at the door. Negative means entry no mask. Positive obviously rejected. Not a bad idea.

Sirioja
02-10-21, 10:42
Yep I much prefer Romanian pretty girls. But a lot of guys (and Spanish) much prefer latinas. I say the girls in Scandalos are generally of a higher standard. By no means all, the prettiest in E92 easily compete with, or are better than 90% of the girls in Scandalos. Obviously depends on the line up at any given time. There are ugly girls in both clubs!

I love a day starting with a run or swim in the sea, good fish for breakfast, long walk in the sun, sunbathing, swimming, workout, more sun in the afternoon, great food for dinner. Then great sex during the evening. Spain offers all of this!

I find latinas facially very pretty. But I don't like girls with big asses. And that's a lot of latinas! I prefer slim athletic girls. Like Julia / Ina / Monika / Stephany. All at E92. If you don't like S Americans I would totally avoid Scandalos. There are a few at E92 but it is still predominantly Romanian. Enjoy the skiing until April and head to the sun. A friend in Berlin told me today that he believes Artemis will open in May. It was one of the last FKKs to close. Obviously depends on vaccines / new strains. Some suggestion of travel health pass. Having to show vaccine certificate. One club owner in Thailand has now introduced "test negative to enter". Blood test at the door. Negative means entry no mask. Positive obviously rejected. Not a bad idea.I dream of ski, but unfortunately, skis and ski shoes stay in the car, because closed in France and our borders are closed to try to protect versus mutants which are already in Western Europe. But after ski time, when borders should open inside EU, I think on May, but not so sure for German brothels, then will be time for a bit of holidays and Spain is much more enjoyable for this than Germany, loving Serrano with tomatoes on bread. I think Paloma with Slavians, DAngelo Alicante and E92 can be good pit stop to let car recovering, and all close to the sea. I don t know when Germany will take risk to reopen, when really in big trouble under second wave which is much more difficult for them. I wonder how can make a safe blood test in a Thai brothel? Like for diabetics? But I m not attracted by Thailand, like I let fake moanings Latinas to others. But I love Romanian or Slavian natural beauties.

Qazwsx5
03-13-21, 00:30
Yep I much prefer Romanian pretty girls. But a lot of guys (and Spanish) much prefer latinas. I say the girls in Scandalos are generally of a higher standard. By no means all, the prettiest in E92 easily compete with, or are better than 90% of the girls in Scandalos. Obviously depends on the line up at any given time. There are ugly girls in both clubs!

I love a day starting with a run or swim in the sea, good fish for breakfast, long walk in the sun, sunbathing, swimming, workout, more sun in the afternoon, great food for dinner. Then great sex during the evening. Spain offers all of this!

I find latinas facially very pretty. But I don't like girls with big asses. And that's a lot of latinas! I prefer slim athletic girls. Like Julia / Ina / Monika / Stephany. All at E92. If you don't like S Americans I would totally avoid Scandalos. There are a few at E92 but it is still predominantly Romanian. Enjoy the skiing until April and head to the sun. A friend in Berlin told me today that he believes Artemis will open in May. It was one of the last FKKs to close. Obviously depends on vaccines / new strains. Some suggestion of travel health pass. Having to show vaccine certificate. One club owner in Thailand has now introduced "test negative to enter". Blood test at the door. Negative means entry no mask. Positive obviously rejected. Not a bad idea.Hello PFI,

How's life? Who is Stephany? Is it the one with green eyes, brunette? If so, how is the service? Can you give more info please.

PayForIt
03-13-21, 02:46
Hello PFI,

How's life? Who is Stephany? Is it the one with green eyes, brunette? If so, how is the service? Can you give more info please.Life is as good as it can be amidst the strange times we find ourselves in and I'm lucky to be able to monger where I am. But that is not in Spain! I have never met or been with Stephany, but she is a good friend of Julia's, brunette, slim, sexy, and Julia messaged me with a few pictures of them together and I have vowed to enjoy a threesome with them when I return to CDS which could be end of May or more likely June. Other than with x4 girls in E92 and one in Cleofas (near Algeciras) I haven't been keeping in touch with the CDS scene at all. Please do report if you session with Stephany and let us know what her service is like. When were you last in E92?

Sirioja
03-13-21, 11:52
When less busy for job when safety conditions delay work and when sea will be warmer, wish to go for sun, jamon with tomatoes, sea and sex, in Catalunya and pushing to Alicante the Angelo and Malaga. But no hurry, I can manage to wait, pleasure should be more fresh.

Qazwsx5
03-13-21, 12:41
Life is as good as it can be amidst the strange times we find ourselves in and I'm lucky to be able to monger where I am. But that is not in Spain! I have never met or been with Stephany, but she is a good friend of Julia's, brunette, slim, sexy, and Julia messaged me with a few pictures of them together and I have vowed to enjoy a threesome with them when I return to CDS which could be end of May or more likely June. Other than with x4 girls in E92 and one in Cleofas (near Algeciras) I haven't been keeping in touch with the CDS scene at all. Please do report if you session with Stephany and let us know what her service is like. When were you last in E92?Last I was there about a month ago. I saw Julia with another girl, she was brunette, green eyes and very nice. I have forgotten her name. But when I saw your message mentioning the name Stephany it kinda sounded familiar, so I think it can be the name of that girl, Julia said that she is a friend of hers. She had tattoo on her hand, do you think its the same girl as in the photos?

Mongering is quite good here ATM.

PayForIt
03-13-21, 18:08
Last I was there about a month ago. I saw Julia with another girl, she was brunette, green eyes and very nice. I have forgotten her name. But when I saw your message mentioning the name Stephany it kinda sounded familiar, so I think it can be the name of that girl, Julia said that she is a friend of hers. She had tattoo on her hand, do you think its the same girl as in the photos?

Mongering is quite good here ATM.Sure that is her. Glad to hear it is good there. What time is the club opening at the moment and have all the restrictions been lifted?

Qazwsx5
03-13-21, 22:10
Sure that is her. Glad to hear it is good there. What time is the club opening at the moment and have all the restrictions been lifted?Malaga metro area is open from morning till 9:30 pm. Costa del sol till 6:00 pm but from Thursday it will be till 9:30 pm on the coast too. The curfew is at 22:00, so till 21:30 basically means open all day.

Haitek
03-14-21, 08:23
I went to 92 last week, the club is open from 1 pm to 6 pm (after 6 pm you have to pay 30 euros to have your room and allowed to satay in the bar). There are between 12 and 15 girls and very few clients. Almost all the Latinas have returned to their country. Fortunately there are 4 or 5 new Romanians coming from Madrid.

We are all hoping that Costa Del Sol is upgraded to health alert level 2 next Friday so that businesses can open until 9:30 pm.

Sirioja
03-14-21, 09:38
I went to 92 last week, the club is open from 1 pm to 6 pm (after 6 pm you have to pay 30 euros to have your room and allowed to satay in the bar). There are between 12 and 15 girls and very few clients. Almost all the Latinas have returned to their country. Fortunately there are 4 or 5 new Romanians coming from Madrid.

We are all hoping that Costa Del Sol is upgraded to health alert level 2 next Friday so that businesses can open until 9:30 pm.For 30€, you can get a room and stay with girls at the bar? If so, just great deal.

Haitek
03-14-21, 23:19
For 30, you can get a room and stay with girls at the bar? If so, just great deal.You can stay up to 22 pm. To stay all night, the standard room cost 75 euros.

PayForIt
03-15-21, 00:43
I went to 92 last week, the club is open from 1 pm to 6 pm (after 6 pm you have to pay 30 euros to have your room and allowed to satay in the bar). There are between 12 and 15 girls and very few clients. Almost all the Latinas have returned to their country. Fortunately there are 4 or 5 new Romanians coming from Madrid.

We are all hoping that Costa Del Sol is upgraded to health alert level 2 next Friday so that businesses can open until 9:30 pm.Very helpful report thanks. Let's hope the easing of restrictions tempts some girls (and punters) to return.

Haitek
03-19-21, 08:56
Good news! All business are allowed to open until 10:30 pm In Costa del Sol. Curfew starts at 11 pm.

Sirioja
03-19-21, 11:24
Good news! All business are allowed to open until 10:30 pm In Costa del Sol. Curfew starts at 11 pm.Thanks for your information. If arriving at 2 pm at E92, can get a room until 10 pm for only 30? Looking forward warmer sea to go to enjoy Spain with good foods, I miss jamon with tomatoes on bread.

Haitek
03-20-21, 20:30
Thanks for your information. If arriving at 2 pm at E92, can get a room until 10 pm for only 30? Looking forward warmer sea to go to enjoy Spain with good foods, I miss jamon with tomatoes on bread.Now the club can legally open until 10:30 pm, you don't need to pay 30 euros extra to get a room and be a hotel guest. You can stay in the bar until 10:30 pm.

Sirioja
03-20-21, 21:54
Now the club can legally open until 10:30 pm, you don't need to pay 30 euros extra to get a room and be a hotel guest. You can stay in the bar until 10:30 pm.When you succeed to find a girl on your tastes, how are rooms? Window? Good light? Shower? Large bed? I need my comfort like at home and a clean girl to enjoy sex.

Qazwsx5
03-21-21, 00:35
When you succeed to find a girl on your tastes, how are rooms? Window? Good light? Shower? Large bed? I need my comfort like at home and a clean girl to enjoy sex.Nice rooms, great views, good lighting, it is clean but don't expect a 5 star hotel room, it is basic but nice and cozy.

Qazwsx5
03-21-21, 00:39
Very helpful report thanks. Let's hope the easing of restrictions tempts some girls (and punters) to return.Hi PFI,

Apart from Julia, who gives the best service at estark? I know it is different and depends on chemistry and etc. But who have given you the best experience? If you could name your top 5.

Thanks.

PayForIt
03-21-21, 01:19
When you succeed to find a girl on your tastes, how are rooms? Window? Good light? Shower? Large bed? I need my comfort like at home and a clean girl to enjoy sex.Hi Siri hope you are keeping safe and well. E92 is no 5 star hotel. The rooms are of a reasonable but very basic standard. I would recommend you take the 30 room till 10 pm but if you want to sleep somewhere this isn’t great. I would say the rooms are bigger than FKK Oase but probably about the size of Mainhattan rooms and of the standard only of FKK World downstairs. So have your fun at the club in a cheap 30e room then stay at the Hilton Double Tree Higueron. It is less than 2 km away. Though up a very steep climb. Nothing for you as a skier. But still not something you would want to walk after a night in the club. Taxi outside E92 always and only 10 e max to the Hilton - a very nice hotel with great rooms, great gym / paddle tennis courts, good foods. Book early it gets booked up - average €135 per night. More expensive than 75e for the night at E92 but immeasurably better.

Alternatively you could upgrade from the very basic 75 room at E92 (not worth it) to a suite. They are normally 160 but the management will do a deal at 120 (if you need a direct contact number for the manager PM me). Suite is bigger, huge round bed, jacuzzi in the room. Still far from the standard of the Hilton. But I've had fantastic fun with up to 4 girls in the jacuzzi with me, some champagne and a lot of fun. Even at 120e is not the standard or comfort of the Hilton, but taking a few girls up for fun on the huge round bed and jacuzzi is worth it!

If you arrive early, have a bit of fun in the bar, but want some excellent food (none is served at E92 - well, there is food but it is awful) then you can walk from the club to the beach (0. 1 km) turn right and go to the fantastic Restaurante Las Tablas Del Rey.
Paseo Martimo Rey de Espaa, 142,29640 Fuengirola, Mlaga, Spain. Google it. The food is not Michelin star but is a truly fabulous restaurant and the food is superb. Large selection of premium wines. It is not overly expensive but also not cheap. I go there every time I visit E92 for my food before I have my fun. It might end up being say 30-40 euros for a nice meal and a couple of excellent glasses of wine for one person. Not expensive at all. Great quality food.

If you stay in Spain for more than a night or two, it might be worth you getting to know a couple of the girls and take them for an early evening dinner at this lovely restaurant. I have done this before now. Some of the girls are very happy to be treated and so will join you for a very pleasant dinner, dressed in a beautiful dress and very sexy before you return to the club for fun and won’t charge anything (other than you paying for dinner) to go to the restaurante with you. I did this with two girls on my last trip to CDS - started in the club, quick chat, out to the restaurante, dinner for the three of us, back to the hotel, some drinks, casino, then up to the room - great night

If you are going to stay on the Costa Del Sol for any period of time (say more than 2-3 nights), you do NOT really want to be based at even Hilton Higueron. This is because Fuengirola is not a great area. Having read your many posts in the FKK sections, if you drive your Porsche all the way to Costa del Sol you will want to stay in a really nice hotel. I recommend Marbella club, or Hotel Guadalpin in Puerto Banus. Some distance away but superior hotels. Similar standard in Malaga and if you stay for say 7 nights you should definitely try Scandalos one night. Expensive (220 per hour so Globe type prices without that high level) but good.

If you PM me before you actually travel I can give you more help on where to stay, how to plan your trip, other clubs. I would strongly suggest you avoid the escort scene in Spain. It is full of bait and switch.

Currently you cannot travel to Spain. You need Spanish residencia to enter. But they are looking at EU Vaccine passports. Green certificate. If you have had both of your vaccine jabs you will be able to travel for the summer.

Separately, I also spoke to a long time favourite at FKK Oase yesterday who says they hope to open in September. Fingers crossed.I miss the outdoor naked table tennis and football! Let me know when you plan to head to Spain.

Berthold
03-21-21, 10:08
Currently you cannot travel to Spain. You need Spanish residencia to enter. But they are looking at EU Vaccine passports. Green certificate. If you have had both of your vaccine jabs you will be able to travel for the summer.

Separately, I also spoke to a long time favourite at FKK Oase yesterday who says they hope to open in September. Fingers crossed.I miss the outdoor naked table tennis and football! Let me know when you plan to head to Spain.If you are citizen of the european union of course you can enter Spain. You just need to have a negative PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to your arrival in Spain and you are required to fill out a form which you can download from the internet.

PayForIt
03-21-21, 12:30
If you are citizen of the european union of course you can enter Spain. You just need to have a negative PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to your arrival in Spain and you are required to fill out a form which you can download from the internet.Thanks and good point. This is correct of course. But outside of EU, including USA and UK. No entry. Which is in itself silly given that infection rates and deaths in Germany, France and Italy are now massively more than in UK which has now seen more than 50% of its population vaccinated. So it should probably be that Spain should say its ok for visitors from the UK but not France, Italy or Germany. But of course that would be very anti-EU! Noticed yesterday that Germany has abandoned the EU vaccination scheme and is now buying its vaccines from Russia. The notion of a united EU is long gone and I suspect we will see other countries leaving the EU in the next couple of years. All conjecture though.

The main problem going forward is therefore not getting into Spain. It's the likelihood of having to quarantine upon returning home from any EU country given the high infection rates currently. Though Spain's rates are not that bad at all.

PayForIt
03-21-21, 12:37
Hi PFI,

Apart from Julia, who gives the best service at estark? I know it is different and depends on chemistry and etc. But who have given you the best experience? If you could name your top 5.

Thanks.Sorry missed this. So of course we all have different likes and dislikes and preferences in the bedroom, so my top 5 might not be everyone else's. Your question was also directed at service. So I'll answer your question in two ways:

Top 5 list of optifucks (so looks not service).

1. Julia.

2. Ana. Looks like Marilyn Monroe. Not there now.

3. Daniella. Brunette Ro friend of Julia and Ina.

4. Ina. Blonde Ivana Trump lookalike.

5. Monica. Ro brunette great body still there now.

But service, very different:

1. Alicia. Curly blonde Romanian. Works hard, good skills, lovely girl.

2. Elena. Brunette Romanian. Was there for most of 2019 - brunette. Terrific in the room.

3. Julia. Still there.

4. Ina. Skills - still there.

5. Maria. Blonde - short bob. Great in the room was there most of 2020.

Sirioja
03-21-21, 12:52
Hi Siri hope you are keeping safe and well. E92 is no 5 star hotel. The rooms are of a reasonable but very basic standard. I would recommend you take the 30 room till 10 pm but if you want to sleep somewhere this isnt great. I would say the rooms are bigger than FKK Oase but probably about the size of Mainhattan rooms and of the standard only of FKK World downstairs. So have your fun at the club in a cheap 30e room then stay at the Hilton Double Tree Higueron. It is less than 2 km away. Though up a very steep climb. Nothing for you as a skier. But still not something you would want to walk after a night in the club. Taxi outside E92 always and only 10 e max to the Hilton - a very nice hotel with great rooms, great gym / paddle tennis courts, good foods. Book early it gets booked up - average 135 per night. More expensive than 75e for the night at E92 but immeasurably better.

Alternatively you could upgrade from the very basic 75 room at E92 (not worth it) to a suite. They are normally 160 but the management will do a deal at 120 (if you need a direct contact number for the manager PM me). Suite is bigger, huge round bed, jacuzzi in the room. Still far from the standard of the Hilton. But I've had fantastic fun with up to 4 girls in the jacuzzi with me, some champagne and a lot of fun. Even at 120e is not the standard or comfort of the Hilton, but taking a few girls up for fun on the huge round bed and jacuzzi is worth it!.Hi,

I don't think for opening in Germany before elections when beloved Angela fell on recent elections in 2 landers, under covid and many deaths. Brothels are not the best for safety when Germany is in trouble since before Christmas. I have bad mood because no ski for second Winter, waiting now for Summer ski and for warmer sea to go to great Spain, I wish around end of May beginning of June, before starting my bicycle tour for my long sporty Summer until end of October beginning of November.

Sirioja
03-21-21, 12:58
Thanks and good point. This is correct of course. But outside of EU, including USA and UK. No entry. Which is in itself silly given that infection rates and deaths in Germany, France and Italy are now massively more than in UK which has now seen more than 50% of its population vaccinated. So it should probably be that Spain should say its ok for visitors from the UK but not France, Italy or Germany. But of course that would be very anti-EU! Noticed yesterday that Germany has abandoned the EU vaccination scheme and is now buying its vaccines from Russia. The notion of a united EU is long gone and I suspect we will see other countries leaving the EU in the next couple of years. All conjecture though.

The main problem going forward is therefore not getting into Spain. It's the likelihood of having to quarantine upon returning home from any EU country given the high infection rates currently. Though Spain's rates are not that bad at all.But because of UK mutant, UK spread too much in Western continental Europe, killing Europe and many citizens at the moment.

Haitek
03-21-21, 17:05
When you succeed to find a girl on your tastes, how are rooms? Window? Good light? Shower? Large bed? I need my comfort like at home and a clean girl to enjoy sex.Standard room at 92 is similar to Ibis hotel room.

Now that the club stay open up to 22.30 pm, taking a room for yourself is not an obligation. You can stay at the bar to drink and chat with the girls. Once your choice is made, you go with the girl to her room.

Sirioja
03-21-21, 23:03
Standard room at 92 is similar to Ibis hotel room.

Now that the club stay open up to 22.30 pm, taking a room for yourself is not an obligation. You can stay at the bar to drink and chat with the girls. Once your choice is made, you go with the girl to her room.Thanks for your information. I don't need room to sleep, but I prefer a clean room with shower with girls and shower together can be really erotic. Are girls rooms with shower? Window for natural light?

Qazwsx5
03-22-21, 00:40
Sorry missed this. So of course we all have different likes and dislikes and preferences in the bedroom, so my top 5 might not be everyone else's. Your question was also directed at service. So I'll answer your question in two ways:

Top 5 list of optifucks (so looks not service).

1. Julia.

2. Ana. Looks like Marilyn Monroe. Not there now.

3. Daniella. Brunette Ro friend of Julia and Ina.

4. Ina. Blonde Ivana Trump lookalike.

5. Monica. Ro brunette great body still there now.

But service, very different:

1. Alicia. Curly blonde Romanian. Works hard, good skills, lovely girl..Thank you very much for info.

I think I must try Ina or Stephany or Alicia (no idea who she is or where is sat normally) next time. How is ina? Is DFK or CIM possible with any of the ones you mentioned?

Haitek
03-22-21, 09:07
Thanks for your information. I don't need room to sleep, but I prefer a clean room with shower with girls and shower together can be really erotic. Are girls rooms with shower? Window for natural light?Yes for shower and yes for naturel light!

By the way, you did ask for skiing. Sierra Neveda is two hour drive from Malaga. It offer 100 km of slopes at 2000 m. It is not comparable with french Alpes but it is a good alternative when french skiing stations are closed during Covid.

Sirioja
03-22-21, 10:18
Yes for shower and yes for naturel light!

By the way, you did ask for skiing. Sierra Neveda is two hour drive from Malaga. It offer 100 km of slopes at 2000 m. It is not comparable with french Alpes but it is a good alternative when french skiing stations are closed during Covid.Thanks again for your informations. Sierra Nevada is open for ski? Lucky Spanish. But I don't really ski normally anymore, when I learned with slalom for so many years, but I turned to free ride since 35 years and only run for this now, when you feel freedom, nearly to fly in powder, in puff as we say. Sometimes also enjoying bumps sessions, but painful from many shocks for back and knees. I usually go to Spain for warmer sea than in France, when I loved so much 30 degrees Atlantic in Miami, when 19 in France, just unfair. I also like Spain for foods. Will try to go to enjoy after so sad Winter, before my sporty Summer I look forward, maybe with few Summer ski days, to make oxygen in blood and open and clean lungs.

PayForIt
03-23-21, 01:38
Thank you very much for info.

I think I must try Ina or Stephany or Alicia (no idea who she is or where is sat normally) next time. How is ina? Is DFK or CIM possible with any of the ones you mentioned?I've never sessioned with Stephany. She looks hot in the couple of pictures I have been pm'the but she arrived after I left in December 2020 (not been back since and unlikely for me before summer or possibly now autumn depending on EU rates of infection / lack of vaccines).

Alicia is a really sweet girl who gives her all if she likes you. Ina is more mechanical but her service is very good indeed.

I have DFK with some of these girls but its probably not fair to shout out. I say this because I don't want to set expectations, and in honesty most of them are the types who would want to have gotten to know you, had several sessions before they would contemplate it. By far the most passionate of all of these girls is Elena. Loves sex, doesn't need to fake anything and if you click you very much feel like she is really into it. I left off the list (there were too many and you asked for top 5) a few other really good girls, Gihay (spelt wrong but matters not) black girl from Cuba. Lives in Granada. Fabulous body, slightly older. Superb service. Also Daniella, very pretty brunette Romanian. Great personality. Classy.

As for CIM I honesty don't know as it's not something I seek. To each their own but just not my bag. I rather doubt it. Don't ask me why as they are up for a lot of things but something tells me that's probably off the agenda. A bit like anal. For most girls its a non-starter but you can always find someone who will fulfil your dreams! If anal. Head to Dina in Cleofas. A true connoisseur! Again not really my thing but she is a professional at it! I suspect she would do CIM. A very willing (and pretty) lady. But then different club and I have no idea now if it even opened in 2021.

Have fun, please do post if you are able. Even though the club is now open until 11 pm it will still be tough times until foreign travel is in full flow. The girls don't make much out of the local Spanish market who mainly prefer to sit, watch, enjoy the pretty girls and nurse two beers for 5 hours than spend real money! You get some guys who are dependent on the roulette for spending. They win they drink and go to rooms for hours, they lose and go home! But overall it is the tourists who make up the clubs, and girls' income. I suspect we might see a return to some form of normality towards the end of 2021. Let's hope so.

Qazwsx5
03-26-21, 21:23
I've never sessioned with Stephany. She looks hot in the couple of pictures I have been pm'the but she arrived after I left in December 2020 (not been back since and unlikely for me before summer or possibly now autumn depending on EU rates of infection / lack of vaccines).

Alicia is a really sweet girl who gives her all if she likes you. Ina is more mechanical but her service is very good indeed.

I have DFK with some of these girls but its probably not fair to shout out. I say this because I don't want to set expectations, and in honesty most of them are the types who would want to have gotten to know you, had several sessions before they would contemplate it. By far the most passionate of all of these girls is Elena. Loves sex, doesn't need to fake anything and if you click you very much feel like she is really into it. I left off the list (there were too many and you asked for top 5) a few other really good girls, Gihay (spelt wrong but matters not) black girl from Cuba. Lives in Granada. Fabulous body, slightly older. Superb service. Also Daniella, very pretty brunette Romanian. Great personality. Classy.

As for CIM I honesty don't know as it's not something I seek. To each their own but just not my bag. I rather doubt it. Don't ask me why as they are up for a lot of things but something tells me that's probably off the agenda. A bit like anal. For most girls its a non-starter but you can always find someone who will fulfil your dreams! If anal. Head to Dina in Cleofas. A true connoisseur! Again not really my thing but she is a professional at it! I suspect she would do CIM. A very willing (and pretty) lady. But then different club and I have no idea now if it even opened in 2021.

Have fun, please do post if you are able. Even though the club is now open until 11 pm it will still be tough times until foreign travel is in full flow. The girls don't make much out of the local Spanish market who mainly prefer to sit, watch, enjoy the pretty girls and nurse two beers for 5 hours than spend real money! You get some guys who are dependent on the roulette for spending. They win they drink and go to rooms for hours, they lose and go home! But overall it is the tourists who make up the clubs, and girls' income. I suspect we might see a return to some form of normality towards the end of 2021. Let's hope so.Thanks very much for the info.

The club is open from 13,00 till 22,30. I don't have the number of julia or stephany, could you please ask julia, around what time they will be in the bar area. Because I am sure they won't be working from 1 till 10 pm and I don't have much time and can't stay there for a long time for them to show up, so want to go there during the hours they work.

Much appreciated.

PayForIt
03-27-21, 17:15
Thanks very much for the info.

The club is open from 13,00 till 22,30. I don't have the number of julia or stephany, could you please ask julia, around what time they will be in the bar area. Because I am sure they won't be working from 1 till 10 pm and I don't have much time and can't stay there for a long time for them to show up, so want to go there during the hours they work.

Much appreciated.Sure. Just let me know what day you want to go. Wouldn't want to give you a time on a day they might not even work (though currently I imagine they are having to work every day). And maybe PM me with your Christian name so I can tell them to expect you.

Sirioja
03-27-21, 18:08
Spain can't afford anymore lockdown for their weak economy. Many French go to Madrid, to escape French lockdown, even we can go out with no time limit, but no bar nor restaurant open and only until 7 pm.

Qazwsx5
03-27-21, 18:11
Sure. Just let me know what day you want to go. Wouldn't want to give you a time on a day they might not even work (though currently I imagine they are having to work every day). And maybe PM me with your Christian name so I can tell them to expect you.Thanks,

I can only go there on Tuesdays at the moment, so I hope they work on Tuesdays.

Thank you.

PayForIt
03-28-21, 09:03
Thanks,

I can only go there on Tuesdays at the moment, so I hope they work on Tuesdays.

Thank you.Messaged Julia last night and both she and Stephany have returned to Romania now until 20th April. So alas you won't be able to see either until then. I'm sure you'll find some of the other options to your liking. Have a great time and please do report (good or bad experiences). Thanks.

Sirioja
03-28-21, 09:43
Messaged Julia last night and both she and Stephany have returned to Romania now until 20th April. So alas you won't be able to see either until then. I'm sure you'll find some of the other options to your liking. Have a great time and please do report (good or bad experiences). Thanks.If your pretty Julia is Romanian, she should have returned for orthodox Easter which is very important for Romanians.

Qazwsx5
03-28-21, 10:09
Messaged Julia last night and both she and Stephany have returned to Romania now until 20th April. So alas you won't be able to see either until then. I'm sure you'll find some of the other options to your liking. Have a great time and please do report (good or bad experiences). Thanks.Oh that's unlucky, I really wanted to try Stephany, seemed very nice. What about Ina, Monica and Daniella? Do you know anything about them buddy? Don't want to go there and see all of them not working.

Thanks very much.

TeddyBears
03-29-21, 00:40
I have recently returned home after two weeks in sunny Spain. During this time I did visit Estark92 on three occasions, as others have pointed out only the cafeteria / casino part is open. The part that has changed inside is that now you are allowed to order directly at the bar and face masks aren't mandatory anymore. There are currently only about 20 girls working at the club with no real stunners in my opinion, even if there are a few decent options.

In my visits I stayed with girls in the room until after midnight and then returned to my hotel in a taxi with no problem even if it was after the time of the curfew.

I was with black girl Yahaira from Cuba a few times, she has a very sculptured body with enhanced tits and fairly attractive face in my opinion. She is 39 yo but her body is extremely well shaped and her service level is very good, even if I suspect that part is also due to chemistry. If anyone of you are in Fuengirola then visit the place they need your support in these strange times, because there are certainly not many guests at the moment.

PayForIt
03-29-21, 08:08
Oh that's unlucky, I really wanted to try Stephany, seemed very nice. What about Ina, Monica and Daniella? Do you know anything about them buddy? Don't want to go there and see all of them not working.

Thanks very much.Not sure my friend as I'm not in Spain. But maybe Teddybears can assist after his excellent report of recent trips. I also echo his comments on Cuban Yahiera. Great service.

PayForIt
03-29-21, 08:13
I have recently returned home after two weeks in sunny Spain. During this time I did visit Estark92 on three occasions, as others have pointed out only the cafeteria / casino part is open. The part that has changed inside is that now you are allowed to order directly at the bar and face masks aren't mandatory anymore. There are currently only about 20 girls working at the club with no real stunners in my opinion, even if there are a few decent options.

In my visits I stayed with girls in the room until after midnight and then returned to my hotel in a taxi with no problem even if it was after the time of the curfew.

I was with black girl Yahaira from Cuba a few times, she has a very sculptured body with enhanced tits and fairly attractive face in my opinion. She is 39 yo but her body is extremely well shaped and her service level is very good, even if I suspect that part is also due to chemistry. If anyone of you are in Fuengirola then visit the place they need your support in these strange times, because there are certainly not many guests at the moment.Nice report TB. As you rightly say. The girls need support during these tough times. That said, April 1st Spain allows non-EU residents back across its borders so hopefully that will drive up custom. I too like Yahaira (you got the right spelling. My previous reports did not!) - lovely girl with great service.

In honesty, I haven't seen a true "stunner" in any of the Spanish clubs since Melissa left Scandalos a few years ago. But that's true of many other mongering destinations. True 10/10 girls are hard to find in this business and don't look fresh for long given the toll the job brings. All that said, as previously opined, I think financial hardship due to the pandemic will mean we do see more and more really attractive girls in clubs in the next year or so as the World recovers to a degree of normality. Glad you managed to get there during your trip. If you went to Scandalos at all please report on your findings. Many thanks.

Sirioja
03-29-21, 09:44
Nice report TB. As you rightly say. The girls need support during these tough times. That said, April 1st Spain allows non-EU residents back across its borders so hopefully that will drive up custom. I too like Yahaira (you got the right spelling. My previous reports did not!) - lovely girl with great service.

In honesty, I haven't seen a true "stunner" in any of the Spanish clubs since Melissa left Scandalos a few years ago. But that's true of many other mongering destinations. True 10/10 girls are hard to find in this business and don't look fresh for long given the toll the job brings. All that said, as previously opined, I think financial hardship due to the pandemic will mean we do see more and more really attractive girls in clubs in the next year or so as the World recovers to a degree of normality. Glad you managed to get there during your trip. If you went to Scandalos at all please report on your findings. Many thanks.Aren't pretty Romanians? On same level than prettiest in Germany? Where I enjoyed real beauties, when 3 times more far than Germany or Switzerland. But at least, sea and better foods.

TeddyBears
03-29-21, 10:48
Not sure my friend as I'm not in Spain. But maybe Teddybears can assist after his excellent report of recent trips. I also echo his comments on Cuban Yahiera. Great service.Ina was working the days I visited, I have never spoken to the girl but wanted to take her upstairs this time, but she was always occupied during my visits. I don't know who the other girls are, I went with Bianca a couple of times, petit dark haired girl with enhanced tits, not a stunner but she knows what she's doing, excellent service. In my opinion there are a few options, and I am picky.

Qazwsx5
03-29-21, 16:13
I have recently returned home after two weeks in sunny Spain. During this time I did visit Estark92 on three occasions, as others have pointed out only the cafeteria / casino part is open. The part that has changed inside is that now you are allowed to order directly at the bar and face masks aren't mandatory anymore. There are currently only about 20 girls working at the club with no real stunners in my opinion, even if there are a few decent options.

In my visits I stayed with girls in the room until after midnight and then returned to my hotel in a taxi with no problem even if it was after the time of the curfew.

I was with black girl Yahaira from Cuba a few times, she has a very sculptured body with enhanced tits and fairly attractive face in my opinion. She is 39 yo but her body is extremely well shaped and her service level is very good, even if I suspect that part is also due to chemistry. If anyone of you are in Fuengirola then visit the place they need your support in these strange times, because there are certainly not many guests at the moment.Thanks Teddy for the report.

Are ina (the blonde one), Monica or Daniella there? How would you rate the quality there ATM?

Qazwsx5
03-29-21, 23:24
Ina was working the days I visited, I have never spoken to the girl but wanted to take her upstairs this time, but she was always occupied during my visits. I don't know who the other girls are, I went with Bianca a couple of times, petit dark haired girl with enhanced tits, not a stunner but she knows what she's doing, excellent service. In my opinion there are a few options, and I am picky.Seems that ina is very popular. Always busy.

PayForIt
03-30-21, 22:58
Seems that ina is very popular. Always busy.It is her service level in the room. Not only is she tall, slim, blonde and looks like Ivana Trump, she is very friendly, but really knows how to please with fabulous BJ skills.

Qazwsx5
04-02-21, 20:57
Not so many clients at round 6,7 pm in estark but about 20 girls working, a few approach but go away when they see you are not interested, about 7 or 8 nice ones, the quality is quite good to be honest considering the current situation. Ina great service, everything perfect. And other clients were happy too with their choices, so it seems that the quality of service has gone up, you do not see them promise this and that and throw it out of the window upstairs. That's real good to see.

In general everything is working quite well along the coast, bars are open, live music, gogo dancers are all out in force. I think its really a great time to be in CDS.

Qazwsx5
04-07-21, 23:19
It is her service level in the room. Not only is she tall, slim, blonde and looks like Ivana Trump, she is very friendly, but really knows how to please with fabulous BJ skills.Hi PFI,

Yes, it is great. Downstairs seems very cold but upstairs.

Could you provide more info about Monica? Is she still there? The looks and service?

Thanks.

PayForIt
04-10-21, 10:02
Hi PFI,

Yes, it is great. Downstairs seems very cold but upstairs.

Could you provide more info about Monica? Is she still there? The looks and service?

Thanks.No idea if she is still there I am afraid. Long brunette hair, very slim, great figure. Intelligent girl who is excellent in the room. If she is there she is likely to be talking to Alicia (blonde Ro curly hair).

I agree downstairs Ina (Ivana lookalike) can appear cold. I think it is because of the number of time wasters the girls have to deal with. But once you've selected her and take her to the room she is terrific.

Hopefully now travel restrictions from the UK are being lifted there will be more punters and the club will get back to what it was before. Though I notice the number of cases (covid) in Spain is sadly increasing again.

Sirioja
04-10-21, 12:31
What are time wasters? Guys who want to speak but don t go with girls? When Spanish seem to be for fast rooms. Good because easy to be different for girls. Spain can t afford anymore to lockdown, so they chose to live with virus, they can't do better.

PayForIt
04-11-21, 06:14
What are time wasters? Guys who want to speak but don t go with girls? When Spanish seem to be for fast rooms. Good because easy to be different for girls. Spain can t afford anymore to lockdown, so they chose to live with virus, they can't do better.I think there is a difference between guys who are there to go to rooms, who speak to several girls first to choose and then go, and other guys who like going to a club to see sexy girls in sexy dresses, but with no intention of going to a room with any girl. They are wasting the girls' time.

Spain has imposed a lot of restrictions without returning to full lockdowns. You are correct it cannot afford another lockdown. I don't think Spain is for fast rooms other than a few punters who do 30 minutes rooms. But in my experience that is more likely to be locals than people who travel any distance to the clubs. Let's hope the current rise in cases in Spain subsides quickly.

Sirioja
04-11-21, 08:42
I think there is a difference between guys who are there to go to rooms, who speak to several girls first to choose and then go, and other guys who like going to a club to see sexy girls in sexy dresses, but with no intention of going to a room with any girl. They are wasting the girls' time.

Spain has imposed a lot of restrictions without returning to full lockdowns. You are correct it cannot afford another lockdown. I don't think Spain is for fast rooms other than a few punters who do 30 minutes rooms. But in my experience that is more likely to be locals than people who travel any distance to the clubs. Let's hope the current rise in cases in Spain subsides quickly.I didn't write Spain but Spanish, many going for fast rooms, compare to Swiss or even some Germans. Free entry at Estark? At Aphrodisia Zurich city, city businessmen go more to take a free drink, or drug, when free entry, rather than for girls who are for 280/30 or 500/60 , looks not worthing such expensive rates, when many were more fresh in Germany before.

Qazwsx5
04-11-21, 21:16
I think there is a difference between guys who are there to go to rooms, who speak to several girls first to choose and then go, and other guys who like going to a club to see sexy girls in sexy dresses, but with no intention of going to a room with any girl. They are wasting the girls' time.

Spain has imposed a lot of restrictions without returning to full lockdowns. You are correct it cannot afford another lockdown. I don't think Spain is for fast rooms other than a few punters who do 30 minutes rooms. But in my experience that is more likely to be locals than people who travel any distance to the clubs. Let's hope the current rise in cases in Spain subsides quickly.The thing is you don't really have to go for an hour nowadays. At least the girls at estark are not really tough on time,(dunno why, maybe because there ain't many customers or something) you can go for half an hour but stay for 45 - 60 minutes, and they are fine with it and don't say anything, I am not sure if this is a new thing or its always been like this. Of course you can give a tip if you want, but they won't say a thing.

The situation is not that bad as it is said in the media, the coast is quite buzzing to be honest, yes, some places have shut but there are many bars and clubs open and very busy, specially on the western side of the coast.

You must come and see it for yourself.

PayForIt
04-11-21, 23:43
I didn't write Spain but Spanish, many going for fast rooms, compare to Swiss or even some Germans. Free entry at Estark? At Aphrodisia Zurich city, city businessmen go more to take a free drink, or drug, when free entry, rather than for girls who are for 280/30 or 500/60 , looks not worthing such expensive rates, when many were more fresh in Germany before.Sorry didn't spot that. Yes. Locals do seem to spend 3 hours nursing a few drinks then select. A girl for 30 minutes. But then I do know some Spanish who the girls say are long time room customers.

TeddyBears
04-12-21, 00:33
Sirioja.

I have also been to Aphrodisia I Zurich a couple of times, I don't really understand why they give away high quality booze for free when there are no entry fee? Maybe they don't have a problem with freeloaders but certainly some people go there for free alcohol and not the girls?! As you point out, almost no girl is worth those rates.

I agree with PFI about time wasters and might ad that I think that mainly locals in the clubs in Spain are time wasters as many of them are in the clubs to drink and to a greater extent than tourists are touchy / feeling the girls without the intention of having sex, this according to club-girls I have get to know over the years. Of course there are drunk tourists behaving badly as well, so no pun intended.

Lets hope the summer can be as close to normal in the clubs, and in the world in general of course!

Sirioja
04-12-21, 21:02
Sirioja.

I have also been to Aphrodisia I Zurich a couple of times, I don't really understand why they give away high quality booze for free when there are no entry fee? Maybe they don't have a problem with freeloaders but certainly some people go there for free alcohol and not the girls?! As you point out, almost no girl is worth those rates.

I agree with PFI about time wasters and might ad that I think that mainly locals in the clubs in Spain are time wasters as many of them are in the clubs to drink and to a greater extent than tourists are touchy / feeling the girls without the intention of having sex, this according to club-girls I have get to know over the years. Of course there are drunk tourists behaving badly as well, so no pun intended.

Lets hope the summer can be as close to normal in the clubs, and in the world in general of course!Very expensive girls rate pay drinks, including whisky or vodka, at Aphrodisia, but was never able to find a wow look there worthing such rate, when saw some who were in Germany before. Aphrodisia is elephant cemetary for WGs, the end of the road. I wish girls are prettier at Estark, to worth so many kilometers from Paris. I doubt for Germany for this Summer, maybe Austria, Switzerland and 6 ens NL, like on 2020 .

Qazwsx5
04-13-21, 00:22
Very expensive girls rate pay drinks, including whisky or vodka, at Aphrodisia, but was never able to find a wow look there worthing such rate, when saw some who were in Germany before. Aphrodisia is elephant cemetary for WGs, the end of the road. I wish girls are prettier at Estark, to worth so many kilometers from Paris. I doubt for Germany for this Summer, maybe Austria, Switzerland and 6 ens NL, like on 2020.Well, the girls at estark are not bad, but if you are looking for high end of the market, then there is milady palace in Marbella and some private villas surrounding puerto banus, but that's 300 euros upward an hour, also you can find some independent ones at expensive bars and restaurants over there.

Sirioja
04-13-21, 07:17
Well, the girls at estark are not bad, but if you are looking for high end of the market, then there is milady palace in Marbella and some private villas surrounding puerto banus, but that's 300 euros upward an hour, also you can find some independent ones at expensive bars and restaurants over there.I like pretty faces with slim natural body, looking like normal Caucasian women. Not silicon nor tattoos nor heavy make up like a stolen car.

PayForIt
04-13-21, 08:16
Very expensive girls rate pay drinks, including whisky or vodka, at Aphrodisia, but was never able to find a wow look there worthing such rate, when saw some who were in Germany before. Aphrodisia is elephant cemetary for WGs, the end of the road. I wish girls are prettier at Estark, to worth so many kilometers from Paris. I doubt for Germany for this Summer, maybe Austria, Switzerland and 6 ens NL, like on 2020 .I have never been to Aphrodisia. Tried Globe but only once and whilst the quality of service was fabulous (at least from the three girls I sessioned) the prices are quite high and the club looked tired to me. But then I find everything in Switzerland is expensive! I believe Andiamo (Austria / Villach) is open again and I know you've been there before (and Wellcum but I think it is closed still? Never been to Sixens but would like to try it. I agree with you that Germany / FKKs look doomed for 2021.

So to CDS. You would have plenty of options if you went for a week Sirioja. Sun by day and they have in the last two years worked really hard on the Senda Litoral De Malaga (Malaga coastal path) and if when completed will run from Nerja to Manilva and span 163 kms. I know you love your fitness (as do I) so you could use it for running / cycling / roller blading! As Qazsx5 says, for upmarket try Miladys Palace. Central Marbella. Girls are 300 e / hour. The club is actually similar in decor to Globe! There are several villas with attractive girls around pools in the Marbella area. Scandalos was the top club in Malaga. Rooms are horribly basic and fees are now 220/ hour but the standard is usually high. On your drive back to Paris go via Madrid and try Club Vive when it is open. Undoubtedly the best standard of any club I have been to anywhere in the world. A LOT of 10/10's and you would not just go once - 240/ hour but the quality really is superb. And then our little E92 and its beauties at a very reasonable 150/ hour.

You should try Spain this summer.

Sirioja
04-13-21, 09:13
I have never been to Aphrodisia. Tried Globe but only once and whilst the quality of service was fabulous (at least from the three girls I sessioned) the prices are quite high and the club looked tired to me. But then I find everything in Switzerland is expensive! I believe Andiamo (Austria / Villach) is open again and I know you've been there before (and Wellcum but I think it is closed still? Never been to Sixens but would like to try it. I agree with you that Germany / FKKs look doomed for 2021.

So to CDS. You would have plenty of options if you went for a week Sirioja. Sun by day and they have in the last two years worked really hard on the Senda Litoral De Malaga (Malaga coastal path) and if when completed will run from Nerja to Manilva and span 163 kms. I know you love your fitness (as do I) so you could use it for running / cycling / roller blading! As Qazsx5 says, for upmarket try Miladys Palace. Central Marbella. Girls are 300 e / hour. The club is actually similar in decor to Globe! There are several villas with attractive girls around pools in the Marbella area. Scandalos was the top club in Malaga. Rooms are horribly basic and fees are now 220/ hour but the standard is usually high. On your drive back to Paris go via Madrid and try Club Vive when it is open. Undoubtedly the best standard of any club I have been to anywhere in the world. A LOT of 10/10's and you would not just go once - 240/ hour but the quality really is superb. And then our little E92 and its beauties at a very reasonable 150/ hour.

You should try Spain this summer.Wellcum reopened on Summer 2020 and GT Vienna, but not Andiamo unfortunately. Will see on 2021. Before starting my climbing tour on June for whole sporty Summer until October, I wish to go to Spain for the sea, relaxing me, for sun, good foods, sea and sex if I find pretty girls in CDS and Catalunya, when I m only attracted by pretty Caucasian types, so Scandalos and Vive should not be for me, when You told about pretty Romanians in Estark. My eyes will choose, I only trust them for my pleasure. Could also give a look at Miladys Marbella, looking for Romanian or Slavian beauties. Also heard about the Angelo Alicante. Should be busy holidays.

Andalus Expat
04-13-21, 19:01
Sirioja.I agree with PFI about time wasters and might ad that I think that mainly locals in the clubs in Spain are time wasters as many of them are in the clubs to drink and to a greater extent than tourists are touchy / feeling the girls without the intention of having sex, this according to club-girls I have get to know over the years. Of course there are drunk tourists behaving badly as well, so no pun intended.I've pointed out before the basic misapprehension of the place the 'puti club' has in Spanish culture. Few of the locals would be going to a club purely to have sex with the girls. Why would they? They know where they can get far better sex much cheaper. They're going to a club for what you see. Drinking. Flirting with the girls. Getting their egos groomed. Maybe they'll take it further with a girl. Maybe they won't. The business model of the club is set up for this. It makes its money from renting rooms to the girls & over the bar. Drinks for the customers. Drinks bought by the customers for the girls. On which the girls normally get a kick-back. It's a matter of indifference to the club whether a girl takes a client upstairs or not. These guys are not "time wasters" to the club, as long as they're putting money over the bar. They're the club's bread & butter. If the clubs just sold sex, they'd go out of business. There's no way they could legally make money out of doing so. To the club, YOU may be the "time waster". If you're giving your money to the girls, not to the club. Of course, a club where no client ever took a girl upstairs would soon lose its girls. The attraction gets the customers in, in the first place. They won't hang around if they're not earning. And a puti club without its girls is just another bar.

Sirioja
04-14-21, 07:10
I've pointed out before the basic misapprehension of the place the 'puti club' has in Spanish culture. Few of the locals would be going to a club purely to have sex with the girls. Why would they? They know where they can get far better sex much cheaper. They're going to a club for what you see. Drinking. Flirting with the girls. Getting their egos groomed. Maybe they'll take it further with a girl. Maybe they won't. The business model of the club is set up for this. It makes its money from renting rooms to the girls & over the bar. Drinks for the customers. Drinks bought by the customers for the girls. On which the girls normally get a kick-back. It's a matter of indifference to the club whether a girl takes a client upstairs or not. These guys are not "time wasters" to the club, as long as they're putting money over the bar. They're the club's bread & butter. If the clubs just sold sex, they'd go out of business. There's no way they could legally make money out of doing so. To the club, YOU may be the "time waster". If you're giving your money to the girls, not to the club. Of course, a club where no client ever took a girl upstairs would soon lose its girls. The attraction gets the customers in, in the first place. They won't hang around if they're not earning. And a puti club without its girls is just another bar.Interesting. Not drinking alcohol, I will be a real waster for brothels, I prefer beauties who give me more pleasure than having brain in fog.

PayForIt
04-14-21, 08:23
I've pointed out before the basic misapprehension of the place the 'puti club' has in Spanish culture.Whilst (for once) I don't disagree with most of your post (see below), truth is that a lot of locals nurse one or two beers for 4 hours whilst they ogle the girls. That is hardly boosting club income. Clubs make income from the girls who pay to work there as well as punters. And then they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc. In a club like E92 the club receives no money when a punter takes a girl to the room.

We will always disagree about there being "far better sex much cheaper" outside of clubs. Bait and switch on escort sites means it is not even on a par let alone far better. Most tourists don't have time to spend hours acquainting themselves with who is and who is not good independently. And having had a LOT of experience of mongering in clubs, and outside of them, in my opinion the option to select from a large line up, when added to the quality of sex I have often enjoyed in clubs, mean they beat the alternatives hands down. And if that wasn't true. I would stop going to the clubs! But I never will.

Andalus Expat
04-15-21, 13:31
Whilst (for once) I don't disagree with most of your post (see below), truth is that a lot of locals nurse one or two beers for 4 hours whilst they ogle the girls. That is hardly boosting club income. Clubs make income from the girls who pay to work there as well as punters. And then they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc. In a club like E92 the club receives no money when a punter takes a girl to the room.I'd disagree with " they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc." Most of them may not see a tourist from one week to another. And then only in the 4 month holiday season. For a club to be viable it needs punters 7 nights of the week, 52 in the year. Or it's a club without girls. I'd guess there are, or at least were, around 40 clubs within a half hour drive of the CDS coast. (Manilva to Nerja) The expertise here seems to encompass 3 or 4 of them. I'm hoping to add to that by comprising a list of where they are & what you'd find when you get there. But don't expect it any time soon. It's a case of finding which of them still exist after a year of strife.

PayForIt
04-16-21, 23:57
I'd disagree with " they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc." Most of them may not see a tourist from one week to another. And then only in the 4 month holiday season. For a club to be viable it needs punters 7 nights of the week, 52 in the year. Or it's a club without girls. I'd guess there are, or at least were, around 40 clubs within a half hour drive of the CDS coast. (Manilva to Nerja) The expertise here seems to encompass 3 or 4 of them. I'm hoping to add to that by comprising a list of where they are & what you'd find when you get there. But don't expect it any time soon. It's a case of finding which of them still exist after a year of strife.

Certainly the bigger clubs do rely upon tourists. I know owners of three of of the largest and they would all tell you that without the tourists income would be badly hit. You will recall that in 2020 you predicted (wrongly) that clubs like E92 would go out of business. I told you then that would not happen. Well they have endured not having a lot of tourists (certainly from the UK and USA) but have survived. They won’t close. Truth is that the clubs generate a lot of money. Their owners are not short of money. Even the smaller clubs are managing to get by.

Extensive golf options on the CDS, and the weather, mean the season is a lot longer than the 4 months you suggest. Indeed most golf trips are March-April then Sept-October meaning the "season" is as long as 9 or 10 months in some areas.

A list of the type you mention would be very useful but the expertise you suggest only spans 3 or 4 is significantly greater. I have visited every one of the 21 venues listed below.

So I will start the list and hope you complete it.

Starting at the far end of the coast at least towards Gib:

1. Cleofas. Small - family run by Tony and his wife. Campamento. Pool table really nice rooms and great service though seldom more than 6 girls and most punters are local Spanish.

2. E95 LOS Barrios. Sister to E92 in fuengirola. Not sure how it survives. Barely very many punters.

3. Sala Platinum bar. Huge club opposite side of N340 on way to Algeciras, along from E95 but on other side. Black and white stripes decor outside, classy bar but every time I've tried it the girls have been very averages.

4. Fontana. LOS barrios by guardacorte park hotel. One of the big clubs. Now 180// hour. Some very pretty long time girls there. At one point was IMHO the best club on the coast but declined in 2020/ with pandemic and slightly before.

5. Club Aladdin. West of Estepona opposite Hotel Elba on other side of N340 - some great selections in 2018 but has declined.

6. Glass Palace Estepona. Formerly Oasis. Prices are now 200/ you. Fabulous rooms. Entrance is not punter friendly but always a few good options.

7. Robertinos. Sign with dancing leg outside. Same side as GP Estepona, heavily lit at night. Hit and miss over the years. Often older girls available.

8. Club California. End of shops by garden centre. Same side Estepona bound of N340 from Marbella but rarely decent options.

9. Golf Hole 19 - same group of shops as (8) - all oriental offerings.

10. Club Bel Air. Tiny club at on Urb Bel Air / Benavista (roadside of El Paraiso). Surprisingly decent options from time to time, popular in the urbanisation.

11. Club Playboy. San Pedro. Recently refurbished (beach side of the town).

12. Miladys Palace. Marbella - Golden Mile most expensive club on the coast - 300/ hour but some great quality.

13. Cleopatras. Neuva Andalusia. Often closed!

14. E92/ Star of the Sea. Carajval / Fuengirola. Best club on this end of the coast for the past 2 years.

15. Club LE Coq the'Or. Close to E92 opposite casino in Torrequebrada. Small - only been once and not impressed.

16. Milady Palace. Marbella golden mile. Most expensive club on CDS with girls 300/ hour but top quality.

17. Villa Walla. Small villa close to MP (16 above). Expensive and no time given to drink / select. True of most villas I have been to but that's only 3 of them! Many pop up then disappear so it isnt really correct to include them on a clubs list.

18. Casa Masa. Another villa on golden mile Marbella. Ditto 17 above 250/ hour.

19. New Scandalos. Malaga / Guadalhorce. Was the best club on the coast with the best girls but pricing in 2018 went mad. Now 220 / hour and you will be lucky to get a full hour. Mainly Latina girls.

20. Glass palace Malaga. Across road from Scandalos. Sister of GP Estepona. Big club, cheaper prices but low quality offerings.

21. Salas Divas. Only been once. Malaga - 10 minutes from Scandalos. Small but decent options.

I've not included pick up bars where escorts are available from line up. Too many to list. Most famous Navy Bar and Havana in Puerto Banus and Casino there at Andalusia Plaza hotel.

I don't venture east of Malaga to monger!

I'm sure there are many I have missed but the above list is at least a start.

Sirioja
04-17-21, 10:04
Thanks for list. What You mean with lucky to get full hour? Latinas are rushing to finish? When 220/60. Where are prettiest Caucasian natural looks I look for?

PayForIt
04-18-21, 09:32
Thanks for list. What You mean with lucky to get full hour? Latinas are rushing to finish? When 220/60. Where are prettiest Caucasian natural looks I look for?Sadly the Mama San on reception at Scandalos have ultra fast watches! The phone will ring in your room usually between 10-15 minutes BEFORE the hour is up. The girls always say "oh I don't keep the time. I trust what they say". So a few years ago I took to the practice of saying to the Mama San, in front of the girl, "ok so please look at my watch. You can see the time is now, (for example) 11.10 pm, so we finish at 12.10 am correct?" Two things would happen after that: (1) the Mama San agree but hate it that you made such a display of this. They must be on commission on monies (normal in all clubs and brothels but this is taking the proverbial) (2) despite making it very clear that I was carefully monitoring the clock. You guessed it. Well before the hour the phone would ring. When the girl would say "no I'm with the guy who showed you his watch" they would leave it for the final 10/15 minutes before calling.

I reported this to the club management who said it is difficult for the receptionists to always keep track. Total nonsense. So when you add to the fact you are paying 220/60 the fact that they try to short change you on time, it has meant me having very serious reservations about returning to Scandalos.

Why would I return at all? Because it often has the best looking girls on the coast. Perhaps because they know they get 220 for 45 minutes!

In answer to your question Sirioja. You will get the best looking Caucasian girls still in either Scandalos or E92. Whilst Scandalos has more latinas there are still a reasonable proportion of EE girls. And that was still the case in 2020. I have not been to either club, or Spain at all in 2021. I am making plans to get there in the next 2 to 3 months work and travel restrictions permitting. I have been on the other side of the world for nearly 6 months so getting to Spain would not have been easy. I am hoping that will change in the next few months.

Back to the list. Whilst Andalus Expat has offered to draw up a list, if anyone else can add to the list I have already produced I am sure we would all benefit from a complete list.

Sirioja
04-18-21, 09:58
Sadly the Mama San on reception at Scandalos have ultra fast watches! The phone will ring in your room usually between 10-15 minutes BEFORE the hour is up. The girls always say "oh I don't keep the time. I trust what they say". So a few years ago I took to the practice of saying to the Mama San, in front of the girl, "ok so please look at my watch. You can see the time is now, (for example) 11.10 pm, so we finish at 12.10 am correct?" Two things would happen after that: (1) the Mama San agree but hate it that you made such a display of this. They must be on commission on monies (normal in all clubs and brothels but this is taking the proverbial) (2) despite making it very clear that I was carefully monitoring the clock. You guessed it. Well before the hour the phone would ring. When the girl would say "no I'm with the guy who showed you his watch" they would leave it for the final 10/15 minutes before calling.

I reported this to the club management who said it is difficult for the receptionists to always keep track. Total nonsense. So when you add to the fact you are paying 220/60 the fact that they try to short change you on time, it has meant me having very serious reservations about returning to Scandalos.

Why would I return at all? Because it often has the best looking girls on the coast. Perhaps because they know they get 220 for 45 minutes!.Real killing pleasure from Scandalos staff, no way for me, when I m used girls don t rush me about time, and I m not into Latinas, I trust more Romanians, less fake and usually quite honest.

Qazwsx5
04-18-21, 22:44
Certainly the bigger clubs do rely upon tourists. I know owners of three of of the largest and they would all tell you that without the tourists income would be badly hit. You will recall that in 2020 you predicted (wrongly) that clubs like E92 would go out of business. I told you then that would not happen. Well they have endured not having a lot of tourists (certainly from the UK and USA) but have survived. They wont close. Truth is that the clubs generate a lot of money. Their owners are not short of money. Even the smaller clubs are managing to get by.

Extensive golf options on the CDS, and the weather, mean the season is a lot longer than the 4 months you suggest. Indeed most golf trips are March-April then Sept-October meaning the "season" is as long as 9 or 10 months in some areas.

A list of the type you mention would be very useful but the expertise you suggest only spans 3 or 4 is significantly greater. I have visited every one of the 21 venues listed below.

So I will start the list and hope you complete it.

Starting at the far end of the coast at least towards Gib:

1. Cleofas. Small - family run by Tony and his wife. Campamento. Pool table really nice rooms and great service though seldom more than 6 girls and most punters are local Spanish.

2. E95 LOS Barrios. Sister to E92 in fuengirola. Not sure how it survives. Barely very many punters..There is another one called club La luna, calle jazmines Marbella (aloha) , it is cozy club, never been inside, but the other day I saw it from outside.

Qazwsx5
04-18-21, 22:48
Sadly the Mama San on reception at Scandalos have ultra fast watches! The phone will ring in your room usually between 10-15 minutes BEFORE the hour is up. The girls always say "oh I don't keep the time. I trust what they say". So a few years ago I took to the practice of saying to the Mama San, in front of the girl, "ok so please look at my watch. You can see the time is now, (for example) 11.10 pm, so we finish at 12.10 am correct?" Two things would happen after that: (1) the Mama San agree but hate it that you made such a display of this. They must be on commission on monies (normal in all clubs and brothels but this is taking the proverbial) (2) despite making it very clear that I was carefully monitoring the clock. You guessed it. Well before the hour the phone would ring. When the girl would say "no I'm with the guy who showed you his watch" they would leave it for the final 10/15 minutes before calling.

I reported this to the club management who said it is difficult for the receptionists to always keep track. Total nonsense. So when you add to the fact you are paying 220/60 the fact that they try to short change you on time, it has meant me having very serious reservations about returning to Scandalos.

Why would I return at all? Because it often has the best looking girls on the coast. Perhaps because they know they get 220 for 45 minutes!The best looking ones I think are in milday palace and some expensive disco bars in Marbella area, but the quality is usually very good at Scandalos.

There are more girls at Estark now, it seems that the business is picking up little by little, they should be opening the bigger bar pretty soon as the restrictions are being lifted.

Qazwsx5
04-18-21, 22:53
I'd disagree with " they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc." Most of them may not see a tourist from one week to another. And then only in the 4 month holiday season. For a club to be viable it needs punters 7 nights of the week, 52 in the year. Or it's a club without girls. I'd guess there are, or at least were, around 40 clubs within a half hour drive of the CDS coast. (Manilva to Nerja) The expertise here seems to encompass 3 or 4 of them. I'm hoping to add to that by comprising a list of where they are & what you'd find when you get there. But don't expect it any time soon. It's a case of finding which of them still exist after a year of strife.I agree with you, for the clubs and villas to be viable they do need locals too, you can't just survive on tourists. But tourists are also very important to them, specially during the summer months. Villas less so as they are not easy to find and are more suited to locals who are afraid of being spotted around known brothels.

Sirioja
04-19-21, 08:34
The best looking ones I think are in milday palace and some expensive disco bars in Marbella area, but the quality is usually very good at Scandalos.

There are more girls at Estark now, it seems that the business is picking up little by little, they should be opening the bigger bar pretty soon as the restrictions are being lifted.You mean Milady Palace? Mostly Caucasians or Latinas? What are rates there?

Qazwsx5
04-19-21, 23:37
You mean Milady Palace? Mostly Caucasians or Latinas? What are rates there?They usually have both, depends on the day because they change the girls so. But the quality is quite high, the rates are 300 an hour upward, and they don't do half hours I think. So serious money tbh.

Andalus Expat
04-20-21, 19:39
Here's a few more to add to yours, PfI.

Alhaurin el Grande. Oxigeno - A404 Carretera de Coin on right just after roundabout N36.65029 -W 4. 70288.

Alhaurin de la Torre. Locura - Calle Sta Isabel.

Gozozos Relax. Calle Gladiolos 14, Rincon de Victoria.

Royal. N340 (dir Almayate) Torre del Mar.

Sala Loka. Calle Velazquez, Velez Malaga.

Club Titanic. Av Andalucia 16, Torrox.

Club Selecta. Calle Decano Juan de Hoyo 10, El Pinillo, Torremolinos.

Velazquez24 - Av de Velazquez 24, Malaga.

Circus Bar. Paseo de Guatemala 8, Elviria.

Luna at Churriana I know is dark There's a for sale notice on it.

Those just the ones off the top of my head I can give a location for. There's another club somewhere to the east of Alhaurin el Grande I found a few years back. Short distance from a roundabout, out in the campo. Ring a bell with anyone? Nuria reckons there's a second at Torre del Mar. She should know. She works the town. But I can't make head nor tail of her directions. More as they occur but I'm going to stick to the defined Costa del Sol. Once you start on the Costas del Luz & Tropical where does it end. Portugal?

Of course, which ones have survived's another matter. Excuse to give the new car some exercise come the warmer evenings. But I think I'll take a puta with me. Safer.

Dropped into Estark earlier, since I was on the way back from Torremolinos. First time I've darkened that door for a while. Amusingly, the famous Pepe from here rang me just as I was parking. He must be psychic. Contents? Just the café bar was open with around a dozen non-descript putas & a Norwegian bloke in his 60's calls himself Eric. The money hunger coming of the putas was almost tangible. Like a hot glare on the back of your neck. Ordered & paid for a coffee. 6€ FFS!. What happened to 2,50€? Chatted with a mulata Cubana for a few minutes. I got the impression there may have been a couple more girls not currently in the bar but going on the fierceness of the putas, nothing more in the way of punters. Discretion being the better part of valour, I made my excuses & left. As I was getting in the car, another old geezer was parking. He may have been using a zimmer frame. He may have not.

OK. This was late afternoon rather than evening. (I have better things to do with my evenings) But somehow the club & the girls have to make some money. Each of those xicas has to get laid for half an hour just so she can break even on the room rent. With so few hours in the day available at the moment, it's just difficult to see how they're doing it. This may be your idea of good entertainment, PfI, It's not mine.

PayForIt
04-21-21, 23:29
This may be your idea of good entertainment, PfI, It's not mine.Thanks for the list but to be honest with one exception only I have never seen a single report from anyone on any of the rest.

As for your experience at E92 I would say:

1. You have a jaundiced view and have made many adverse comments about clubs in the main thread. It was why I started this clubs only thread. I therefore cannot take your opinion on any club seriously.

2. Very recently Qazwsx5, who reports on both clubs and other options visited several times, sessioned with some of my recommendations and only last week posted that there are more and more girls of a night so the remainder of the club re-opening will be soon. I eagerly await that for when I return.

3. Too many other senior members have reported good times at the club for your report, of a 30 min visit mid-afternoon to be taken with more than a pinch of salt.

4. I have reported before, frequently, that I've had brilliant nights in this club. And did so only last summer mid-pandemic. You know already that I am (A) picky when it comes to looks and (B) not short of spending good money on our favourite sport. Why on earth, when I am used to the fabulous pickings in over 25 FKKs I have visited, and the many venues I have enjoyed all over the world, would I ever contemplate spending time and money in a clubs if it was awful as you represent? I could very easily spend my money elsewhere (including I suppose you will say at your villa which hosts girls who you say always provide the best sex on the planet for peanuts). I don't because, I repeat, I have great entertainment and enjoyment at E92.

You did not give it a fair chance, did not stay until evening when it gets busy, and it is still the case that restrictions are in place. You are not likely to ever comment positively on it because of your jaundiced views, to which you are of course entitled. But as this is a blog which I control as moderator please know that if you seek to use this blog for consistently negative (in my view biased) reporting, I will just delete the posts. I have no problem at all with anyone presenting a fair opinion. I am not all positive about clubs. I criticised Scandalos policies and prices only last week. So very happy to have people express honest opinions. And if that means someone posts that E92 was disappointing that’s fine if it is their clearly and honestly held view. But as you operate a villa with girls in it, I find it hard to accept that you don't have a personal interest in promoting such venues or private apartments and doing your best to discredit clubs. For those reasons, I cannot take your views on clubs seriously.

The Cane
04-21-21, 23:45
Thanks for the list but to be honest with one exception only I have never seen a single report from anyone on any of the rest.

As for your experience at E92 I would say:

1. You have a jaundiced view and have made many adverse comments about clubs in the main thread. It was why I started this clubs only thread. I therefore cannot take your opinion on any club seriously.

2. Very recently Qazwsx5, who reports on both clubs and other options visited several times, sessioned with some of my recommendations and only last week posted that there are more and more girls of a night so the remainder of the club re-opening will be soon. I eagerly await that for when I return.

3. Too many other senior members have reported good times at the club for your report, of a 30 min visit mid-afternoon to be taken with more than a pinch of salt..When I was down there on the coast (was a good while ago), I liked Scandalos the best, followed by E92. I had pleasurable, memorable experiences at both clubs. But what I want to know is why is he in here in this thread anyway when it was him complaining about too much of a heavy club focus in the Costa del Sol reports? Like I said before, I wish you had never created a separate thread for clubs since that was wholly unnecessary. But you did in response to his consternation and objections, and now here he is!

Qazwsx5
04-22-21, 00:13
Here's a few more to add to yours, PfI.

Alhaurin el Grande. Oxigeno - A404 Carretera de Coin on right just after roundabout N36.65029 -W 4. 70288.

Alhaurin de la Torre. Locura - Calle Sta Isabel.

Gozozos Relax. Calle Gladiolos 14, Rincon de Victoria.

Royal. N340 (dir Almayate) Torre del Mar.

Sala Loka. Calle Velazquez, Velez Malaga.

Club Titanic. Av Andalucia 16, Torrox.

Club Selecta. Calle Decano Juan de Hoyo 10, El Pinillo, Torremolinos.

Velazquez24 - Av de Velazquez 24, Malaga.

Circus Bar. Paseo de Guatemala 8, Elviria.

Luna at Churriana I know is dark There's a for sale notice on it.

Those just the ones off the top of my head I can give a location for. There's another club somewhere to the east of Alhaurin el Grande I found a few years back. Short distance from a roundabout, out in the campo. Ring a bell with anyone? Nuria reckons there's a second at Torre del Mar. She should know. She works the town. But I can't make head nor tail of her directions. More as they occur but I'm going to stick to the defined Costa del Sol. Once you start on the Costas del Luz & Tropical where does it end. Portugal?

Of course, which ones have survived's another matter. Excuse to give the new car some exercise come the warmer evenings. But I think I'll take a puta with me. Safer.A few days ago I saw another bar / small club just 100 meters away from el corte (decoration) in marbella, just behind the bank, it is called California pub, it was closed when I saw it but says on the door that it is open from Wednesday till Sunday. From outside it is quite small, but you never know, it may surprise you.

About your visit to estark. I think you arrived too early, because the good looking ones normally come down later, maybe around 6, or 7. The service is really good the few times I have visited, the girls do not look at the time even tho I just did the half hours but stayed for an hour both times without giving any tip or extending the time. And they try to make sure that you have a good time. There is no cheating, they do what they tell you they would do in the room, but of course I do not know about all of the girls. I understand that the bar prices are high and a negative, but that's how it works as you know because the bar needs to make money too. But you can take your time and enjoy yourself till you find someone you like, maybe that's the positive because they don't push you to buy more. Both times I went there recently I spent 90 euros in total but was in the room for an hour, so I think it is quite worth it (even cheap independents want 100 for an hour nowadays). Maybe give it another chance but this time go later and go up to the room. You may change your opinion, maybe lack of work has made them work harder and give better service. Because they now know that locals make up most of the clients so they want you to go back (so speaking in Spanish, and telling them that another day you had great time with another girl over there helps a lot).

PayForIt
04-22-21, 00:50
When I was down there on the coast (was a good while ago), I liked Scandalos the best, followed by E92. I had pleasurable, memorable experiences at both clubs. But what I want to know is why is he in here in this thread anyway when it was him complaining about too much of a heavy club focus in the Costa del Sol reports? Like I said before, I wish you had never created a separate thread for clubs since that was wholly unnecessary. But you did in response to his consternation and objections, and now here he is!Ah but there is a huge difference my friend. Whereas I couldn't stop the persistent moaning and objections in the main thread, as I didn't create it, here in the Clubs Only thread as moderator I can just delete his comments if they continue to be so biased. But I am a great believer in both free speech, and as such, a one-time only unjustified whinge will be tolerated. After that, it will be adios and he can post whatever he likes in the main thread but not here. And to be honest. Whilst it is a bit of a yawn to have to scroll down in Spain to this thread (which I have registered an objection to Admin about but which has been ignored), the fact that we are heading towards 200 posts inside one (pandemic hit) year, tells me that most people who have any interest in the clubs have located it pretty quickly. I would hazard a guess that this thread has actually had more posts since its creation than the main CDS thread! I totally get why you thought it unnecessary, and may still do believe that, but it was control over the same old "amazing service at peanuts away from clubs" mantra that I had had enough of in the main thread, without any ability to impact it. So I either just abandoned the CDS thread entirely and only posted on ISG for other locations, or else I set up a new thread. Which has gone rather well.

Qazwsx5
04-22-21, 00:57
Thanks for the list but to be honest with one exception only I have never seen a single report from anyone on any of the rest.

As for your experience at E92 I would say:

1. You have a jaundiced view and have made many adverse comments about clubs in the main thread. It was why I started this clubs only thread. I therefore cannot take your opinion on any club seriously.

2. Very recently Qazwsx5, who reports on both clubs and other options visited several times, sessioned with some of my recommendations and only last week posted that there are more and more girls of a night so the remainder of the club re-opening will be soon. I eagerly await that for when I return.

3. Too many other senior members have reported good times at the club for your report, of a 30 min visit mid-afternoon to be taken with more than a pinch of salt.

4. I have reported before, frequently, that I've had brilliant nights in this club. And did so only last summer mid-pandemic. You know already that I am (A) picky when it comes to looks and (B) not short of spending good money on our favourite sport. Why on earth, when I am used to the fabulous pickings in over 25 FKKs I have visited, and the many venues I have enjoyed all over the world, would I ever contemplate spending time and money in a clubs if it was awful as you represent? I could very easily spend my money elsewhere (including I suppose you will say at your villa which hosts girls who you say always provide the best sex on the planet for peanuts). I don't because, I repeat, I have great entertainment and enjoyment at E92.

You did not give it a fair chance, did not stay until evening when it gets busy, and it is still the case that restrictions are in place. You are not likely to ever comment positively on it because of your jaundiced views, to which you are of course entitled. But as this is a blog which I control as moderator please know that if you seek to use this blog for consistently negative (in my view biased) reporting, I will just delete the posts. I have no problem at all with anyone presenting a fair opinion. I am not all positive about clubs. I criticised Scandalos policies and prices only last week. So very happy to have people express honest opinions. And if that means someone posts that E92 was disappointing thats fine if it is their clearly and honestly held view. But as you operate a villa with girls in it, I find it hard to accept that you don't have a personal interest in promoting such venues or private apartments and doing your best to discredit clubs. For those reasons, I cannot take your views on clubs seriously.I just think that he likes mongering in a different way, I can understand that. I think andalus expat likes to take his time, get to know the girl, maybe a dinner or something before the main thing. Well of course that's not club way of doing it. Also as he says, he doesn't really care much about beauty, he cares more about the services offered and stuff. So of course if you get to know a girl outside and repeat with her, she is going to offer better services (normally cheaper than clubs, however as I said in the previous post, now prices at estark are very good considering the time they let you stay). But it takes time to find independents you like on pasion ads (there are many fakes photos) and possibly speaking Spanish is a must, so not good option for tourists (regular visitors of course can find good independents as they visit quite often).

As he says he has left the club scene a long time ago, so I can understand that quality of services started going down hills as more people rushed to the coast and prices going up. But times change, now maybe clubs are making a comeback (offering better services).

I do not mind clubs, independents or villas, the most important thing is the girl (beauty, body, face, personality) and the quality of the service and in the end the price. In the end it is about having fun and feeling good and not cheated after the session. You can have good times at clubs or villas or with independents. But you also can have bad times.

One positive of the clubs and villas is that you get to see the girls before going up, but with independents you can not, so you have to accept the risk, and the quality of service you never know until you try them. But as andalus expat knows many of them and has tried them so he knows most of the time what he is going to get, that's why sites like this are very useful, sharing info and trying to help others.

Andalus expat has provided some good info about some pasion ads that had caught my eyes. And PFI great info about clubs and girls. Very useful reports both of them.

I just think that andalus expat should give clubs a chance and try them once in a while and PFI give some independents with nice reviews a chance once in a while for a change. Because the most important thing is the girl. She can work in a club or at her own home.

The Cane
04-22-21, 13:42
I just think that he likes mongering in a different way, I can understand that.But I believe that all of his complaints about the way other people like to do it and report on it (clubs) was a bit much, and showed little respect for the preferences of others. So, PFI creates a thread focused exclusively on the clubs, and it turns out to be more popular than the original thread. Surprise, surprise! That's because for most of us here, at least for now (for years now actually), that's where we like to play when in Spain. And look at who decides to join us in the thread about the clubs.

PayForIt
04-23-21, 01:00
I just think that he likes mongering in a different way, I can understand that. I think andalus expat likes to take his time, get to know the girl, maybe a dinner or something before the main thing. Well of course that's not club way of doing it. Also as he says, he doesn't really care much about beauty, he cares more about the services offered and stuff. So of course if you get to know a girl outside and repeat with her, she is going to offer better services (normally cheaper than clubs, however as I said in the previous post, now prices at estark are very good considering the time they let you stay).
I just think that andalus expat should give clubs a chance and try them once in a while and PFI give some independents with nice reviews a chance once in a while for a change. Because the most important thing is the girl. She can work in a club or at her own home.Please believe me:

(1) I have good relationships with several independent girls I have got to know outside of Spain so I am not against using independents.

(2) I don't believe services are any better with independents no matter how much you know them. Once a customer in a club becomes well known to the girls for treating the girls with respect, making them laugh, and of course spending money with them, the girls go out of their way to provide great service to someone they know is a frequent customer who pays well and treats them well. The notion of "much better sex" is therefore a fallacy.

(3) I have no doubt that a longterm deal with a regular girl means paying less. But I manage to negotiate deals with girls in clubs too! Because I don't do short rooms (and the girls know it), they are willing to negotiate for longer time -- same the world over. So whilst I do accept that some independents charge less, it will mainly be the ones who are not so attractive.

(4) to prove that I do try independents I can state that only recently, after a great report from Teddy Bears on the main thread, I PM's him to get some of the details of the girls / websites. If I get a report of a very pretty independent who gives great service I will happily go there.

I actually think the first part of Andalus Expat's report in this thread about other clubs was a genuine attempt to be helpful and provide details of other locations. Which for a comprehensive list, is useful. But he had to have his usual dig a few posts ago "it seems the expertise here is on only 3 - 4 clubs" which was wholly misconceived. Then when he posted his list he had to take a swipe at E92 based upon a 30 min visit where he believes he saw very mediocre offerings, a guy with a zimmer frame arriving and asked if I thought this was great entertainment. All that told me that he was mainly not seeking to be helpful at all. But rather to take another swipe at Club users. That is just churlish. Nobody with proper eyesight is going to see Julia (back there now), Stephany, Alicia, Daniella, Ina and more and think they are run of the mill. That is just not right and even if he didn't like one or two of them, most of them are very pretty and far more attractive than the girls he posts are at his villa. But as you say, he is not into beauty. In which case if he went in E92 and found no stunners he would have been very interested!

I have no doubt that many girls who are sadly very unattractive would elect to give fabulous service to ensure they make a living.

The Cane's point is of course characteristically accurate. I got fed up with Andalus Expat's almost vitriol, persistently expressed, about clubs, owners, tales of woe of them not surviving (which has proven to be nonsense), and not having a good or even constructive word on the club scene at all. I am all for exchanging information and views, including negatives, but at times his prose sounded like he was the uncrowned king of all information about mongering on the CDS, and even about being in Spain itself. Truth is that nobody has such a monopoly. We all have information to share and that is why over the years reading information from fellow members about good and bad experiences (clubs or not) has been so valuable. So contributions are really appreciated, but it was as if AE had taken over the main thread. I had no idea whether a new thread would get any traction at all. But it has, and it should be limited to information only about clubs, though even I listed a couple of villas on my list! It's not supposed to be competitive. It is about information sharing for the benefit of all. And for the record, whilst I'm no expert on Spanish life and don't live there as AE does (so he will know more), I am almost fluent in the language and have a very good knowledge of Spanish culture. I am sure others can say the same.

As AE prefers girls in his or other villas and / or independents that's great. He has almost a monopoly over the formerly "main" CDS thread to report on them and I'm really pleased actually that other members do still report on there. And I still look at it with interest. But it would be better, if, given his very biased views against clubs, he stayed off the clubs thread as his opinions are jaundiced, old, and unlikely to be of any value.

Sirioja
04-23-21, 12:59
Don't worry so much, we are all different as say girls, each one own tastes, I'm not a big specialist but I think much more numerous pisos than clubs in Spain. Keep on your way like I do and I won t change for some here. Only pleasure with girls is important in this business. Maybe because I don t know yet, but I find this thread interesting and informative, looking forward experiencing soon new playfield after sea to wake up to.

PayForIt
04-23-21, 23:57
Don't worry so much, we are all different as say girls, each one own tastes, I'm not a big specialist but I think much more numerous pisos than clubs in Spain. Keep on your way like I do and I won t change for some here. Only pleasure with girls is important in this business. Maybe because I don t know yet, but I find this thread interesting and informative, looking forward experiencing soon new playfield after sea to wake up to.Oh fear not I do not "worry" my friend. ISG is but a pastime. Though an enjoyable one. Yes you are correct. Much more pisos than clubs. But then a lot of ugly girls behind those doors who put up fake pictures to lure you to their door. The beauty of clubs of course is, as many have said, is that you get to see before you buy. Perfect.

I'm glad you like the thread, and having read your many excellent, entertaining and informative reports in the FKK threads over the past 8 years I very much hope you get to Spain, enjoy the weather, the sea, the food and the options on offer in the best clubs. If driving (as I know you do), remember that there are speed limits in Spain that you don't need to worry about in Germany, and that you should go via Madrid and experience both Pigmallion and Club Vive. Then head south to the sea and the lovely ladies in E92 and other clubs. I know you have a particular penchant for ladies who are intelligent as well as pretty and I can point you in the direction of one or two. One in particular at E92 you will find enchanting I believe. PM me when you plan to travel and we can meet up for sure. I can take you to an excellent local restaurant before we enjoy the options.

Sirioja
04-24-21, 08:37
Oh fear not I do not "worry" my friend. ISG is but a pastime. Though an enjoyable one. Yes you are correct. Much more pisos than clubs. But then a lot of ugly girls behind those doors who put up fake pictures to lure you to their door. The beauty of clubs of course is, as many have said, is that you get to see before you buy. Perfect.

I'm glad you like the thread, and having read your many excellent, entertaining and informative reports in the FKK threads over the past 8 years I very much hope you get to Spain, enjoy the weather, the sea, the food and the options on offer in the best clubs. If driving (as I know you do), remember that there are speed limits in Spain that you don't need to worry about in Germany, and that you should go via Madrid and experience both Pigmallion and Club Vive. Then head south to the sea and the lovely ladies in E92 and other clubs. I know you have a particular penchant for ladies who are intelligent as well as pretty and I can point you in the direction of one or two. One in particular at E92 you will find enchanting I believe. PM me when you plan to travel and we can meet up for sure. I can take you to an excellent local restaurant before we enjoy the options.Most of guys don't feel self confident with beautiful girls. So many times I heard in Germany: she is pretty but I m sure she gives bad service, from guys who didn't even try with the girl, when we know, when we love beautiful women, they are the best pleasure, when beautiful girls are so surprised to be treated like a woman, when they have to face so often frustration from guys who are not able with beautiful women, but feel more confident with average looks or prostitute behavior. When I only look for Caucasians and I learned to love Romanians I didn't know in Paris, I should drive in June, fortunately Spain is not Switzerland, can drive quite fast on Catalunya motorways, when Malaga is far from Paris. Even I will let my eyes choose for beauty and charm I need, as I always do, but I will let you know when I can go, before starting my Summer climbing tour in my beloved mountains, I look so much forward my sport after no ski on 2 last Winters, I feel so light when climbing, feeling not touching the floor when walking, but I also wish for warm sea in Spain to relax swimming, I remember when I swam for much more than 1 hour in sea, much more enjoyable than in chlore swimming pool and they are too cold in Germany. The only warm swimming pool was at Globe, but not anymore since end of 2016 , with useless Mainhattan area now. Are beautiful Caucasians at Pygmalion and Vive? I m not attracted by others. Spain is a real pleasure country, same like Italy or France. I wish you can return to enjoy your pleasures, when not all guys have same pleasures, some in this business preferring to bullshit about others than to be able to enjoy beauties, when hard job for me to find beauties for my desire.

Wiild
04-24-21, 18:17
Great news on Estark, thanks for update Qazwsx5. Can you provide some more details on the talent in the expensive disco bars in Marbella area?

Were these just normal girls you spotted or are high end normal clubs frequented by pros and semipros? I love that kind of setup!


The best looking ones I think are in milday palace and some expensive disco bars in Marbella area, but the quality is usually very good at Scandalos.

There are more girls at Estark now, it seems that the business is picking up little by little, they should be opening the bigger bar pretty soon as the restrictions are being lifted.

Wiild
04-24-21, 19:06
Me too! It is a good thread, thanks for the recent updates and the list! I do enjoy the Malaga coast, hope to be back soon. The bigger puti-clubs that are discussed here, Scandalos, E92 etc have been really nice experiences on my visits previously. To me a couple of hours in a nightclub / puticlub is a nice part of the evening, I actually often do NOT have anything better to do as I really love the partying, flirting, atmosphere in these clubs. .


....I find this thread interesting and informative .....

Qazwsx5
04-25-21, 00:32
Great news on Estark, thanks for update Qazwsx5. Can you provide some more details on the talent in the expensive disco bars in Marbella area?

Were these just normal girls you spotted or are high end normal clubs frequented by pros and semipros? I love that kind of setup!The semipros (very nice ones) frequent high end normal clubs (discos, beach clubs and etc) in Marbella area. In these famous clubs you can see groups of girls sitting at the tables eating and then dancing and etc, you just have to be blind not to notice that they are looking for rich guys. The quality is quite high but so are their rates. The Marbella area is quite busy actually, you have to book a few days in advance to be able to get a table for the weekend at these clubs.

I have not tried them but made eye contact and smiled a few times and they smile back and start talking to you. So just make eye contact, smile, they will smile back and there you go. The rates I have heard range from 300 up to 500 or even more, plus expect to pay for her drink and food there (not cheap).

Also if you google escorts Marbella you can find some agency girls or independent ones with their numbers. I contacted one, she said full GFE ,350 an hour (they usually don't have a place) so she suggested we meet at an expensive hotel in Marbella (don't want to say the name of the hotel here, but have a guess which one it is) so very expensive, I didn't do it.

You should try these places if you like this kind of set up. It is quite nice, I like it too, not just for mongering but eating, drinking and watching shows, live music and etc.

Qazwsx5
04-25-21, 00:46
Here's a few more to add to yours, PfI.

Alhaurin el Grande. Oxigeno - A404 Carretera de Coin on right just after roundabout N36.65029 -W 4. 70288.

Alhaurin de la Torre. Locura - Calle Sta Isabel.

Gozozos Relax. Calle Gladiolos 14, Rincon de Victoria.

Royal. N340 (dir Almayate) Torre del Mar.

Sala Loka. Calle Velazquez, Velez Malaga.

Club Titanic. Av Andalucia 16, Torrox.

Club Selecta. Calle Decano Juan de Hoyo 10, El Pinillo, Torremolinos.

Velazquez24 - Av de Velazquez 24, Malaga.

Circus Bar. Paseo de Guatemala 8, Elviria.

Luna at Churriana I know is dark There's a for sale notice on it.

Those just the ones off the top of my head I can give a location for..Velazquez 24 is very very nice, they have a website, look at the photos. It is quite good, reasonable prices.

Another one to add, club Cherrie Torremolinos, just 500 meters from the Benalmadena / Torremolinos border area on the main road. Sometimes you can find nice ones.

Sirioja
04-25-21, 10:21
Me too! It is a good thread, thanks for the recent updates and the list! I do enjoy the Malaga coast, hope to be back soon. The bigger puti-clubs that are discussed here, Scandalos, E92 etc have been really nice experiences on my visits previously. To me a couple of hours in a nightclub / puticlub is a nice part of the evening, I actually often do NOT have anything better to do as I really love the partying, flirting, atmosphere in these clubs.Catalunya, Costa Brava and del Sol, are just great to relax, sunny paradise. I think I will spend most of my day watching the sea, so relaxing, and want to check if I m still able to swim far from the beach, good sport for body and to open lungs, for mind and then you feel strong for sex on late afternoon and night, for sun, sea and sex, and good jamon or meat with tomatoes on bread. I should be more interested by brothels clubs with more girls for choice, when locals may go more for fast in small pisos, each one own experience of course, no truth, only important is to find pleasure.

Sirioja
04-25-21, 19:32
The semipros (very nice ones) frequent high end normal clubs (discos, beach clubs and etc) in Marbella area. In these famous clubs you can see groups of girls sitting at the tables eating and then dancing and etc, you just have to be blind not to notice that they are looking for rich guys. The quality is quite high but so are their rates. The Marbella area is quite busy actually, you have to book a few days in advance to be able to get a table for the weekend at these clubs.

I have not tried them but made eye contact and smiled a few times and they smile back and start talking to you. So just make eye contact, smile, they will smile back and there you go. The rates I have heard range from 300 up to 500 or even more, plus expect to pay for her drink and food there (not cheap).

Also if you google escorts Marbella you can find some agency girls or independent ones with their numbers. I contacted one, she said full GFE ,350 an hour (they usually don't have a place) so she suggested we meet at an expensive hotel in Marbella (don't want to say the name of the hotel here, but have a guess which one it is) so very expensive, I didn't do it.

You should try these places if you like this kind of set up. It is quite nice, I like it too, not just for mongering but eating, drinking and watching shows, live music and etc.What origins are these expensive girls? South America Latinas? Who are very numerous in Spain, or Romanians, or Slavians? 300 for a real Russian with model type look and pleasure to chat in Russian, can be interesting for me.

PayForIt
04-26-21, 23:19
What origins are these expensive girls? South America Latinas? Who are very numerous in Spain, or Romanians, or Slavians? 300 for a real Russian with model type look and pleasure to chat in Russian, can be interesting for me.Whilst I have not frequented Miladys Palace since late 2019 (enough options at E92) you are very likely to find "real" Russians there. The CDS has become popular with wealthy Russians and the ladies from Russia know their men like real girls and have money to pay. So you will be very likely to find some attractive blondes in there who are real Russians. Some of the very pretty Latinas are also at MP. As previously mentioned, in Scandalos you will find a mix. For about 3 years there were less Latinas than previously at Scandalos and more Romanians. But that ratio has returned to previous days and the latinas outnumber Romanians, Moldavians etc in Scandalos. But you will find some pretty Romanians there who believe they are worth more than the 150/ hour at E92. However some of the pretty Romanians in E92 tell me they are busier at E92 than when they tried Scandalos because they know the main attraction to customers going to Scandalos are Latinas!

If you are down for more than a few days you should try Miladys Palace one night, definitely visit Scandalos one night but I suspect you will end up preferring E92. It is not as pretty a club as Scandalos. To give you some insight / reference. Scandalos is an up market FKK Palace since the refurb (better quality but a circular walkaround the bar). Miladys Palace is the Spanish Globe, and E92 is a bit like a very small Oase with no outdoor area but two main rooms, one a bar (think to the left of reception at Oase) and a walkthrough passage then the main nightclub. Probably not the best description. And they are definitely different but gives you a little insight.

Sirioja
04-27-21, 07:05
Whilst I have not frequented Miladys Palace since late 2019 (enough options at E92) you are very likely to find "real" Russians there. The CDS has become popular with wealthy Russians and the ladies from Russia know their men like real girls and have money to pay. So you will be very likely to find some attractive blondes in there who are real Russians. Some of the very pretty Latinas are also at MP. As previously mentioned, in Scandalos you will find a mix. For about 3 years there were less Latinas than previously at Scandalos and more Romanians. But that ratio has returned to previous days and the latinas outnumber Romanians, Moldavians etc in Scandalos. But you will find some pretty Romanians there who believe they are worth more than the 150/ hour at E92. However some of the pretty Romanians in E92 tell me they are busier at E92 than when they tried Scandalos because they know the main attraction to customers going to Scandalos are Latinas!

If you are down for more than a few days you should try Miladys Palace one night, definitely visit Scandalos one night but I suspect you will end up preferring E92. It is not as pretty a club as Scandalos. To give you some insight / reference. Scandalos is an up market FKK Palace since the refurb (better quality but a circular walkaround the bar). Miladys Palace is the Spanish Globe, and E92 is a bit like a very small Oase with no outdoor area but two main rooms, one a bar (think to the left of reception at Oase) and a walkthrough passage then the main nightclub. Probably not the best description. And they are definitely different but gives you a little insight.Thanks again for your information's. Girls look and charm are the most important for my desire, when I don't care about clubs but I only need quite good rooms with good light to enjoy sex with a beauty. Globe Zurich is nothing high level for the club, with average rooms and no more swimming pool, and girls are not anymore prettier but less natural than prettiest in Germany. When WGs don t all worth same rate for me, prettiest worthing more expensive when I don t pay for looks who would not attract me in real life, but paying less expensive for a beauty can be part of quality, I take my time to enjoy a beauty. I wish to give a visit on June, really long time I didn't spend holidays at the sea, wish situation in EU will be better then.

Andalus Expat
04-27-21, 18:29
The semipros (very nice ones) frequent high end normal clubs (discos, beach clubs and etc) in Marbella area. In these famous clubs you can see groups of girls sitting at the tables eating and then dancing and etc, you just have to be blind not to notice that they are looking for rich guys. The quality is quite high but so are their rates. The Marbella area is quite busy actually, you have to book a few days in advance to be able to get a table for the weekend at these clubs.

I have not tried them but made eye contact and smiled a few times and they smile back and start talking to you. So just make eye contact, smile, they will smile back and there you go. The rates I have heard range from 300 up to 500 or even more, plus expect to pay for her drink and food there (not cheap).
You should try these places if you like this kind of set up. It is quite nice, I like it too, not just for mongering but eating, drinking and watching shows, live music and etc.Ah! You're talking about an interesting & wonderful playground, there. Great fun. But you need to know what you're doing. The expensive places you can run across the top line international escorts. They're hoping to latch onto rich geezers in the yacht & Ferrari class & be the girlfriend for a week. You're talking in the thousands. Generally they don't do hours unless they're after some loose change to pay the hairdresser. They'll be very nice company for ten minutes whist they assess your net worth then go look for someone worth their trouble. Down market a bit's the girls pitching for the rented Merc & vacation apartment crew. Same deal but less thousands. All of these girls are professionals & fully documented. Maybe to the extent of a couple of passports & being registered companies for tax purposes.

But on the same scene there's another bunch of xicas floating around. They've come to Spain on visitors visas to try their luck & haven't found it. They can't work legit because none of the clubs, villas or apartments will touch them with a barge-pole. The fines resulting from having one of them found on the premises can be eyewatering. They have trouble renting apartments for the same reason. So they end up sofa surfing & living out of suitcases.

If you want to indulge in it, it's a bloodsport. They want to get the maximum out of you. You want to get the maximum out of them, for the least expenditure. They're trying to con you, so con them. When I've played the game I make sure wherever they wanted, we eat at a restaurant owned by a mate. Where they'll get what they're given irrespective of what they order off the menu or wine list. I stay as far away as possible from any form of retailing. I carry cash not plastic. I wouldn't reckon on any of them costing more than 100€ a day plus expenses. Eventually they catch on that I'm just as mercenary as they are, then it's up to them. They either move on or settle for what I'm willing to offer. Can be good fun. I had a very tasty Venezolana hanging around for a while had some kinky tastes. Find the right one, you could even consider making her a permanency. Just be aware of what you're getting into. Don't give them an opportunity to steal. I'd caution against having one in the car in the early hours of the morning. Use taxis. You get pulled over by the police you may be in for a tedious interlude.

A response to PayForIt re clubs. We're on completely different pages, mate. I see clubs the same way the Spanish do. As social venues, like going to the pub. I first visited Estark back in 2011, I guess. When I was still based in France. I rented an apartment a few minutes walk from it for two years. I'm a few minutes drive from it now. It's somewhere I might drop in to on the way home for a drink & some company. I wouldn't dream of spending an evening there, unless I was meeting with some buddies. I wouldn't go there with the intention of "rooming" a girl. (Although occasionally one's caught my interest) Generally I prefer the smaller clubs to the big meat-racks like Estark & Scandalos. They're cheaper. They're friendlier. The girls are much less competitive & pushy. There was a place I used to frequent on the route out of Granada (Alas since closed) Cerveza 4€. Play pool or dance with the girls. Buy them a 10€ drink for their company. Maybe fuck one. Local Spaniards had a card game running some nights. Take a few hands of poker. That's a proper club. Why I'd like to compile a comprehensive club list. They're not that easy to find. Not everyone wants to travel 25 km to one of the big ones for what they offer. But with the emphasis on the club, not the girls. Girls are fungible. There'll be a different bunch in there in a month. Who cares?

I'm writing from the perspective of someone who lives here, hopefully for the benefit or others the same. Not for the vicarious entertainment of blokes 2000 km north who probably won't see the CDS until next year. If then. Who are familiar with the options other than clubs & are comfortable with exploring them. If I took a swipe at Estark after last week's visit, it earned it. A dozen girls sitting at a bar without a single drink on it tells a story. The hustling starting the instant you cross the threshold another. The doubling of the price of a cup of coffee a third. It's just not a place I'd want to drop into for a casual drink any more. Whether it's got a future I couldn't tell you. The earnings of putas is a pretty good window on the contents of the wallets of the Spanish working male. The girls I know are making less than half of what they were pre-Covid. Tourism & the leisure industry were a big feed-in to the local economy. Whether we'll get a summer season here, this year, remains to be seen. No doubt, as nominally a hotel, Estark's benefited from some of the government support to the industry. They'll probably cop the latest 200€ a bed handout been promised. But most of this support has been by way of loans. Which have to be repaid. Demands for repayment are already being made. The smaller clubs may survive due to customer loyalty & small overheads. Not sure about the big ones.

Qazwsx5
05-01-21, 17:01
Ah! You're talking about an interesting & wonderful playground, there. Great fun. But you need to know what you're doing. The expensive places you can run across the top line international escorts. They're hoping to latch onto rich geezers in the yacht & Ferrari class & be the girlfriend for a week. You're talking in the thousands. Generally they don't do hours unless they're after some loose change to pay the hairdresser. They'll be very nice company for ten minutes whist they assess your net worth then go look for someone worth their trouble. Down market a bit's the girls pitching for the rented Merc & vacation apartment crew. Same deal but less thousands. All of these girls are professionals & fully documented. Maybe to the extent of a couple of passports & being registered companies for tax purposes.

But on the same scene there's another bunch of xicas floating around. They've come to Spain on visitors visas to try their luck & haven't found it. They can't work legit because none of the clubs, villas or apartments will touch them with a barge-pole. The fines resulting from having one of them found on the premises can be eyewatering. They have trouble renting apartments for the same reason. So they end up sofa surfing & living out of suitcases.

If you want to indulge in it, it's a bloodsport. They want to get the maximum out of you. You want to get the maximum out of them, for the least expenditure. They're trying to con you, so con them. When I've played the game I make sure wherever they wanted, we eat at a restaurant owned by a mate. Where they'll get what they're given irrespective of what they order off the menu or wine list. I stay as far away as possible from any form of retailing. I carry cash not plastic. I wouldn't reckon on any of them costing more than 100 a day plus expenses. Eventually they catch on that I'm just as mercenary as they are, then it's up to them. They either move on or settle for what I'm willing to offer. Can be good fun. I had a very tasty Venezolana hanging around for a while had some kinky tastes. Find the right one, you could even consider making her a permanency. Just be aware of what you're getting into. Don't give them an opportunity to steal. I'd caution against having one in the car in the early hours of the morning. Use taxis. You get pulled over by the police you may be in for a tedious interlude.

A response to PayForIt re clubs. We're on completely different pages, mate. I see clubs the same way the Spanish do. As social venues, like going to the pub. I first visited Estark back in 2011, I guess. When I was still based in France. I rented an apartment a few minutes walk from it for two years. I'm a few minutes drive from it now. It's somewhere I might drop in to on the way home for a drink & some company. I wouldn't dream of spending an evening there, unless I was meeting with some buddies. I wouldn't go there with the intention of "rooming" a girl. (Although occasionally one's caught my interest) Generally I prefer the smaller clubs to the big meat-racks like Estark & Scandalos. They're cheaper. They're friendlier. The girls are much less competitive & pushy. There was a place I used to frequent on the route out of Granada (Alas since closed) Cerveza 4. Play pool or dance with the girls. Buy them a 10 drink for their company. Maybe fuck one. Local Spaniards had a card game running some nights. Take a few hands of poker. That's a proper club. Why I'd like to compile a comprehensive club list. They're not that easy to find. Not everyone wants to travel 25 km to one of the big ones for what they offer. But with the emphasis on the club, not the girls. Girls are fungible. There'll be a different bunch in there in a month. Who cares?.I know what you mean, I am interested in that playground, it is really great fun as you say but I still have not been able to take the risk, they do definitely want to suck out as much money as they can from you, so pretty hard to handle the situation unless you are very experienced, if you play hard to splash cash they usually move on because they think you don't have that much money, if you splash cash, then they want much more and keep you hungry till you give them what they want (if it gets to this stage its difficult to move on, hard to resist the temptation, so you may give in and end up bankrupt).

Last year found a great looking Latin in one of the beach clubs in Marbella, after 5 minutes of talking to her, she wanted me to invite her and 3 of her friends to an expensive restaurant / disco bar, so I just left. The best thing to do is to keep them hungry and not give in till they accept what you are willing to give, but for this to happen they must believe that you are very rich and not short of options, and also interested in her. Easier said than done, because they are pros, can quickly find out if you are bluffing or are actually rich. May try my luck again in this playground pretty soon.

As for clubs, of course they have been hit hard by the covid thing, but not only clubs, this thing has hit all sectors of the economy, not only clubs are doing badly compared to last years, but also independents, villas and etc, if the men do not have money, they can't spend it on girls, be it clubs girls, villas or etc.

I am sure that you have noticed that independent rates have gone up, nowadays 60 euros, 70 euros half an hour is pretty normal for an average looking girl (stupid thing to do when business is bad, but that's what they usually do for some weird reasons) . But club rate are still same as before, the drinks have gone up but not the girls. So I am hearing that many pop into Estark, choose quickly and go up without buying anything at the bar. So you never know maybe clubs now become more competitive because one the reasons locals go to independents is the cheaper rate as you correctly point out, so if the club rate gets very close and the service gets better, many locals may prefer clubs over independents.

The service the few times I visited recently was really good, so can't complain.

MagicSheep74
05-02-21, 14:29
Thanks again for your information's. Girls look and charm are the most important for my desire, when I don't care about clubs but I only need quite good rooms with good light to enjoy sex with a beauty. Globe Zurich is nothing high level for the club, with average rooms and no more swimming pool, and girls are not anymore prettier but less natural than prettiest in Germany. When WGs don t all worth same rate for me, prettiest worthing more expensive when I don t pay for looks who would not attract me in real life, but paying less expensive for a beauty can be part of quality, I take my time to enjoy a beauty. I wish to give a visit on June, really long time I didn't spend holidays at the sea, wish situation in EU will be better then.Hello Sirioja,

I live in Marbella and you won't like Milady Palace. It's been closed for a year, doubtful if open in June. Quality is not better than Globe or Aphrodisia in Zurich and you are never impressed with them. Price is Milady is now 350 an hour, 200 for 30 minute. In summary. Overpriced and a lower standard of women than Club Vive or Pigmalion in Madrid. The only thing that is better in these Spanish clubs mentioned is they are. In my opinion better fun than clubs or bars in Switzerland or Germany.

Just go to Estark 92 - cost effective and go with Inna. Great service and cracking body.

Casamasa in Marbella on occasion has some very attractive Latin women, but its 200 an hour.

Babylon Mansion also a villa in Marbella also has some very attractive Latin women - 200 an hour, 120 for 30 minutes.

I sometimes go to Latin places for fun, but overall have a preference for white chicks. Hence my current Ukrainian bird.

If you do go in June, please report back. Spain is great fun in general, so I am sure you'll enjoy.

Cheers.

Sirioja
05-02-21, 16:17
Hello Sirioja,

I live in Marbella and you won't like Milady Palace. It's been closed for a year, doubtful if open in June. Quality is not better than Globe or Aphrodisia in Zurich and you are never impressed with them. Price is Milady is now 350 an hour, 200 for 30 minute. In summary. Overpriced and a lower standard of women than Club Vive or Pigmalion in Madrid. The only thing that is better in these Spanish clubs mentioned is they are. In my opinion better fun than clubs or bars in Switzerland or Germany.

Just go to Estark 92 - cost effective and go with Inna. Great service and cracking body.

Casamasa in Marbella on occasion has some very attractive Latin women, but its 200 an hour.

Babylon Mansion also a villa in Marbella also has some very attractive Latin women - 200 an hour, 120 for 30 minutes.

I sometimes go to Latin places for fun, but overall have a preference for white chicks. Hence my current Ukrainian bird.

If you do go in June, please report back. Spain is great fun in general, so I am sure you'll enjoy.

Cheers.Thanks for your information. I never saw a wow look worthing the rate at Aphrodisia, but I enjoyed many girls at Globe and even on last Summer, even level of looks fell for my eyes who have allergy with silicon and average faces. When Germany and Switzerland mostly worth for brothels for me, I fully agree Spain is to feel on holidays and really would like to swim in sea if not cold. I look for white skin with pretty face and natural body, what I call normal Caucasian woman look. Where are the prettiest ones? Are there in Vive and Pygmalion? What are rates there?

PayForIt
05-02-21, 23:29
I live in Marbella and you won't like Milady Palace. It's been closed for a year, doubtful if open in June. Quality is not better than Globe or Aphrodisia in Zurich and you are never impressed with them. Price is Milady is now 350 an hour, 200 for 30 minute. In summary. Overpriced and a lower standard of women than Club Vive or Pigmalion in Madrid. The only thing that is better in these Spanish clubs mentioned is they are. In my opinion better fun than clubs or bars in Switzerland or Germany.

Just go to Estark 92 - cost effective and go with Inna. Great service and cracking body.

If you do go in June, please report back. Spain is great fun in general, so I am sure you'll enjoy.

Cheers.Siri. MagicSheep is an experienced, well travelled senior member and his knowledge and views are always appreciated and accurate. I hadn't realised MP was closed for a year now or that prices had increased. I actually like the club but I won't be paying 350/ hour when 20 kms towards Malaga in E92 you can get great quality (like Ina) at 150/ hour. She looks like Ivana Trump. Great body and service as MS reports. But there are other excellent options. I don't share MS's view that the Spanish clubs are more fun than German FKKs but to each their own. I do love the time I spend in the clubs on CDS and when I get to Vive, (which you should 100% try on your trip down), but there is nothing like being in the sunshine around the pool of FKK Oase with over 100 naked ladies in your company!

Do report back please as MS suggest. But then I know you would most certainly do so. Hope to get down there myself in late May or early June if travel is permitted from Asia.

Sirioja
05-03-21, 06:32
Siri. MagicSheep is an experienced, well travelled senior member and his knowledge and views are always appreciated and accurate. I hadn't realised MP was closed for a year now or that prices had increased. I actually like the club but I won't be paying 350/ hour when 20 kms towards Malaga in E92 you can get great quality (like Ina) at 150/ hour. She looks like Ivana Trump. Great body and service as MS reports. But there are other excellent options. I don't share MS's view that the Spanish clubs are more fun than German FKKs but to each their own. I do love the time I spend in the clubs on CDS and when I get to Vive, (which you should 100% try on your trip down), but there is nothing like being in the sunshine around the pool of FKK Oase with over 100 naked ladies in your company!

Do report back please as MS suggest. But then I know you would most certainly do so. Hope to get down there myself in late May or early June if travel is permitted from Asia.When you go whole day to brothel in Germany because nothing else attractive around, but in Catalunya or Costa Brava or del Sol, will be day on the beach after great breakfast, enjoying the sea, and only evening inside, for few holidays. I understood some Romanians and I love them, at E92 close to the beach, but what about at Vive Madrid which is quite far? To change my way when more enjoyable to drive through Catalunya for me. Like RTC versus high level clubs like Palace in Germany, pisos and some clubs like was Moonight with real Russian dancers in Spain. Just different business. Need attestation and negative test for Spain which is waiting for tourism it really needs, should go on June after achieving job. Are girls in dress at E92 ? And at Vive?

Qazwsx5
05-03-21, 10:21
Hello Sirioja,

I live in Marbella and you won't like Milady Palace. It's been closed for a year, doubtful if open in June. Quality is not better than Globe or Aphrodisia in Zurich and you are never impressed with them. Price is Milady is now 350 an hour, 200 for 30 minute. In summary. Overpriced and a lower standard of women than Club Vive or Pigmalion in Madrid. The only thing that is better in these Spanish clubs mentioned is they are. In my opinion better fun than clubs or bars in Switzerland or Germany.

Just go to Estark 92 - cost effective and go with Inna. Great service and cracking body.

Casamasa in Marbella on occasion has some very attractive Latin women, but its 200 an hour.

Babylon Mansion also a villa in Marbella also has some very attractive Latin women - 200 an hour, 120 for 30 minutes.

I sometimes go to Latin places for fun, but overall have a preference for white chicks. Hence my current Ukrainian bird.

If you do go in June, please report back. Spain is great fun in general, so I am sure you'll enjoy.

Cheers.Hello magicsheep.

Since last month I have wanted to go to milady but as you say every time I go it is closed, however I don't think it is permanent, as you say I think its going to open in June as travel restrictions are lifted, but 350 is real expensive. Maybe picking up gogo dancers in disco bars in Marbella is a better option at this rate. Have you ever tried it?

PayForIt
05-03-21, 16:03
When you go whole day to brothel in Germany because nothing else attractive around, but in Catalunya or Costa Brava or del Sol, will be day on the beach after great breakfast, enjoying the sea, and only evening inside, for few holidays. I understood some Romanians and I love them, at E92 close to the beach, but what about at Vive Madrid which is quite far? To change my way when more enjoyable to drive through Catalunya for me. Like RTC versus high level clubs like Palace in Germany, pisos and some clubs like was Moonight with real Russian dancers in Spain. Just different business. Need attestation and negative test for Spain which is waiting for tourism it really needs, should go on June after achieving job. Are girls in dress at E92 ? And at Vive?Oh for sure Spain is a more interesting country than Germany (IMHO) though trips down the Rhine are stunning and Munich and Hamburg are beautiful cities. But I don't sunbathe alongside 100 nude ladies around the Oase pool because there is nothing else around. The whole experience of an entire day eating, drinking, sunbathing, playing football and ping pong with naked women (oh yes. And of course the sex!) is just not something which can be beaten. For me, a great week is to spend 2/3 days at Oase / Sharks / maybe one other FKK then head for the sea, food and clubs of Spain.

Vive is a long way from the RTC offerings like Dietzenbach! (I know it isn't listed as RTC but you will recall the many posts from Kosher Cowboy about the BBFK availability). You won't see any of that in Vive! But I would not re-route for it. For sure enjoy Catalunya first. Barca has many offerings though its not a favourite of mine (for mongering or even visiting). I much prefer Madrid. But obviously no sea there!

All girls in the Spanish clubs are dressed. Some more than others. You will find girls in dresses, others in jeans, and several (in the summer) in bikinis in the club. But none of the nudity of FKKs. Which sort of adds to the mystique but leaves the possibility of disappointment when the dress and bra come off in the room. But you won't go wrong with girls like Julia, Ina, Monica. All great bodies. Slim, athletic Romanians. .

Yes I see that Spain has some restrictions but not for Schengen countries. So you should be ok to travel even before June if you need to.

MagicSheep74
05-03-21, 18:37
Hello magicsheep.

Since last month I have wanted to go to milady but as you say every time I go it is closed, however I don't think it is permanent, as you say I think its going to open in June as travel restrictions are lifted, but 350 is real expensive. Maybe picking up gogo dancers in disco bars in Marbella is a better option at this rate. Have you ever tried it?Hello my friend,

Totally agree that Milady will open again, but at 350 an hour it has priced itself out of the market. I did participate a few times for 300, but the girl was a really beautiful Russian girl that had been thrown out her rich boyfriends villa in Marbella. I have never been to a go go bar / strip club in Marbella as I have been told they are terrible. If you are referring to disco / bars where there are freelancers, then my 3 favourites are.

1. La Habana. Puerto Banus / mostly Latin girls ranging for 100-300 an hour back at there house or mine.

2. Mosh Fun kitchen. High end girls mostly Eastern European with some Latin - 300-500 ranging from 2 hours, if lucky they stay the night.

3. La Suite. Puente Romano. Extreme gold diggers looking for a rich guy. If they go home empty handed, deals can be done 300-500 for a few hours.

I am to lazy these days to drive down to Scandalo to be disappointed for 220, although I have some amazing memories in that club from 2015 to 2019.

Nowadays, I use seeking.com sometimes for a girl if I fancy going out for night, Estark once a week, and a villa if I want to party.

Enjoy reading your reports, stay safe.

MS.

Sirioja
05-03-21, 21:45
Oh for sure Spain is a more interesting country than Germany (IMHO) though trips down the Rhine are stunning and Munich and Hamburg are beautiful cities. But I don't sunbathe alongside 100 nude ladies around the Oase pool because there is nothing else around. The whole experience of an entire day eating, drinking, sunbathing, playing football and ping pong with naked women (oh yes. And of course the sex!) is just not something which can be beaten. For me, a great week is to spend 2/3 days at Oase / Sharks / maybe one other FKK then head for the sea, food and clubs of Spain.

Vive is a long way from the RTC offerings like Dietzenbach! (I know it isn't listed as RTC but you will recall the many posts from Kosher Cowboy about the BBFK availability). You won't see any of that in Vive! But I would not re-route for it. For sure enjoy Catalunya first. Barca has many offerings though its not a favourite of mine (for mongering or even visiting). I much prefer Madrid. But obviously no sea there!

All girls in the Spanish clubs are dressed. Some more than others. You will find girls in dresses, others in jeans, and several (in the summer) in bikinis in the club. But none of the nudity of FKKs. Which sort of adds to the mystique but leaves the possibility of disappointment when the dress and bra come off in the room. But you won't go wrong with girls like Julia, Ina, Monica. All great bodies. Slim, athletic Romanians. .

Yes I see that Spain has some restrictions but not for Schengen countries. So you should be ok to travel even before June if you need to.Yes, Bavaria is beautiful, Berlin, Hamburg and Koln are interesting, but Barcelona is magic. Germany is not for holidays for a French, when Spain is pleasure, different game in Spain with sun, sea, jamon with tomatoes on bread and sex. Really no interest for BB sex available with low level looks at Dietzenbach or other RTC, but so much more interesting when happening with more exclusive beauties, for free and without begging, just happening sometimes when I don't run for. When far from Mediterranee, are there pretty Caucasian looks at Vive, for 125 per 30 , when I know in Catalunya, real Slavians for 70/30 . Even for French, attestation with QR code and negative test needed for Spain. Girls with dress or underwear are more glamour than most of full naked. When you know a bit about women, you can usually analyze risk for hidden, and I love so much to put them off, really erotic game for foreplay.

Qazwsx5
05-03-21, 21:54
Hello my friend,

Totally agree that Milady will open again, but at 350 an hour it has priced itself out of the market. I did participate a few times for 300, but the girl was a really beautiful Russian girl that had been thrown out her rich boyfriends villa in Marbella. I have never been to a go go bar / strip club in Marbella as I have been told they are terrible. If you are referring to disco / bars where there are freelancers, then my 3 favourites are.

1. La Habana. Puerto Banus / mostly Latin girls ranging for 100-300 an hour back at there house or mine.

2. Mosh Fun kitchen. High end girls mostly Eastern European with some Latin - 300-500 ranging from 2 hours, if lucky they stay the night.

3. La Suite. Puente Romano. Extreme gold diggers looking for a rich guy. If they go home empty handed, deals can be done 300-500 for a few hours.

I am to lazy these days to drive down to Scandalo to be disappointed for 220, although I have some amazing memories in that club from 2015 to 2019..Thanks for the reply, great info.

In fact a few days ago I went to Habana during the daytime, there were 2 girls one blond and one brunette sitting at a table eating, I highly believe that they were freelancers, but did not know how to approach them, there are always bouncers around there, so didn't want to risk it, not looking for trouble, is there a way to approach them? Because it was my first time there.

I have been to mosh once, they have this stupid dress code which is really annoying because you see people inside with normal T shirts but they decide not to let you in because you are wearing a T shirt, dunno how it works, many girls around but again find it difficult to spot the working ones, because many girls also go there to party so it is a bit confusing.

What about the other expensive club up the road, very close to Olivia, is it just gold diggers or you could find something for 200,300 euros?

Thanks very much.

Qazwsx5
05-03-21, 22:56
When you go whole day to brothel in Germany because nothing else attractive around, but in Catalunya or Costa Brava or del Sol, will be day on the beach after great breakfast, enjoying the sea, and only evening inside, for few holidays. I understood some Romanians and I love them, at E92 close to the beach, but what about at Vive Madrid which is quite far? To change my way when more enjoyable to drive through Catalunya for me. Like RTC versus high level clubs like Palace in Germany, pisos and some clubs like was Moonight with real Russian dancers in Spain. Just different business. Need attestation and negative test for Spain which is waiting for tourism it really needs, should go on June after achieving job. Are girls in dress at E92 ? And at Vive?Look buddy, vive is one of most famous puticlubs in the world, so without a doubt you going to love it, I haven't been there but heard that you can find whatever you like. The other club worth visiting is Pygmalion if you like top girls, went inside a few years ago as I was staying close by, really really great talent there but the place looked damn expensive, it had 300 or even more euros an hour all over it, I was in no mood to splash cash so ran away. The cost of living has really gone up here, it used to cheap when compared to northern Europe, but nowadays I don't really see any difference, it is basically same as France, the Netherlands or even the Scandinavian countries (except cheap beer and wine that you can get here).

The Cane
05-04-21, 00:08
Look buddy, vive is one of most famous puticlubs in the world, so without a doubt you going to love it, I haven't been there but heard that you can find whatever you like. The other club worth visiting is Pygmalion if you like top girls, went inside a few years ago as I was staying close by, really really great talent there but the place looked damn expensive, it had 300 or even more euros an hour all over it, I was in no mood to splash cash so ran away. The cost of living has really gone up here, it used to cheap when compared to northern Europe, but nowadays I don't really see any difference, it is basically same as France, the Netherlands or even the Scandinavian countries (except cheap beer and wine that you can get here).What is Siri going on about now? The last time I was in Spain (a few years ago) Vive was wall to wall rocking! So many hotties to choose from! The two I went with ended up kind of choosing me. I say "kind of", because in the end, it's my money and always my choice. One was a cute little petite, milk white, blonde spinner from Romania who approached me. The other was a cute, petite, curly-haired, brunette from Hungary with a potty mouth in the bedroom (Siri would not like such unladylike behavior hahaha).

I stopped by Pygmalion that held an even hotter collection of ladies of the night. Had my arms around a hot, red-headed, Brazilian "branca" (white girl) with a plump, round butt. Saw a gorgeous blonde espanola (Spanish girl), with skin as white as fresh milk, who was giving me the eye. But in the end, I couldn't pull the trigger in Pygmalion. Those tutes up in there want too much! No, I went to Club Estark at Hotel Diana Plus where I found what I wanted at far more favorable pricing (white Russian girl and another Hungarian tute who looked like a tanned Latina). Stop talking Siri and get out there and mount and conquer! Like riding your bike to climb the Alps!

Sirioja
05-04-21, 21:57
Look buddy, vive is one of most famous puticlubs in the world, so without a doubt you going to love it, I haven't been there but heard that you can find whatever you like. The other club worth visiting is Pygmalion if you like top girls, went inside a few years ago as I was staying close by, really really great talent there but the place looked damn expensive, it had 300 or even more euros an hour all over it, I was in no mood to splash cash so ran away. The cost of living has really gone up here, it used to cheap when compared to northern Europe, but nowadays I don't really see any difference, it is basically same as France, the Netherlands or even the Scandinavian countries (except cheap beer and wine that you can get here).I should go on June, after job and before starting my Summer sport, but you don't know me, I don't pay for just sex, I need to dream, l need girls who are able to make me dream from their look, aura, charm, elegance and manners. Very often I visited most famous clubs in Germany or Swiss and preferred to leave full balls, but of course I would prefer to enjoy dreamed beauties. I will see and decide, but at least I will have the sea, but not in Madrid. Pygmalion is a bar? Not a club.

PayForIt
05-04-21, 23:15
What is Siri going on about now? The last time I was in Spain (a few years ago) Vive was wall to wall rocking! So many hotties to choose from! The two I went with ended up kind of choosing me. I say "kind of", because in the end, it's my money and always my choice. One was a cute little petite, milk white, blonde spinner from Romania who approached me. The other was a cute, petite, curly-haired, brunette from Hungary with a potty mouth in the bedroom (Siri would not like such unladylike behavior hahaha).

I stopped by Pygmalion that held an even hotter collection of ladies of the night. Had my arms around a hot, red-headed, Brazilian "branca" (white girl) with a plump, round butt. Saw a gorgeous blonde espanola (Spanish girl), with skin as white as fresh milk, who was giving me the eye. But in the end, I couldn't pull the trigger in Pygmalion. Those tutes up in there want too much! No, I went to Club Estark at Hotel Diana Plus where I found what I wanted at far more favorable pricing (white Russian girl and another Hungarian tute who looked like a tanned Latina). Stop talking Siri and get out there and mount and conquer! Like riding your bike to climb the Alps!I really must get to Pygmalion. Never been and it's the only Madrid club I've not been to. Even if it is only to go and do one room there, have to take it off my bucket list. Loved Factory Air in the early days. Vive is just heaven. I've never found choosing so hard. Every time I've been there there have been 20+ girls I would select and I believe I am picky. Every nationality catered for and have never had a bad night there. Cheap entry though the drinks are not cheap. Love the vibe even if it is a bit far out in the north of Madrid. I love Estark 92 at Hotel Diana Plus. Had some fabulous nights there. Must take a trip I to Madrid when the madness subsides. One of my favourite cities. But to get back to the good old CDS, can you guys actually on the ground (Qazwsx5) say which clubs are now open. We know E92 is, but are Scanadalos / Glass Palace Estepona, and Fontana open? Hearing that Miladys P is closed still makes me wonder which clubs on the CDS other than E92 are open. Thanks.

The Cane
05-04-21, 23:34
I really must get to Pygmalion. Never been and it's the only Madrid club I've not been to. Even if it is only to go and do one room there, have to take it off my bucket list. Vive is just heaven. I've never found choosing so hard. Every time I've been there there have been 20+ girls I would select and I believe I am picky.Yes, you must. But, they don't have on-premises rooms there (at least I don't think they do). In which case, you would have to bring the girl back to your hotel room. And, your feelings about Vive are how I feel when I step into "the other" Scandallo. The one in Sao Paulo, Brazil. The one that I call the baddest "puta palace" on the planet!

https://vimeo.com/162586573

Qazwsx5
05-05-21, 01:05
I really must get to Pygmalion. Never been and it's the only Madrid club I've not been to. Even if it is only to go and do one room there, have to take it off my bucket list. Loved Factory Air in the early days. Vive is just heaven. I've never found choosing so hard. Every time I've been there there have been 20+ girls I would select and I believe I am picky. Every nationality catered for and have never had a bad night there. Cheap entry though the drinks are not cheap. Love the vibe even if it is a bit far out in the north of Madrid. I love Estark 92 at Hotel Diana Plus. Had some fabulous nights there. Must take a trip I to Madrid when the madness subsides. One of my favourite cities. But to get back to the good old CDS, can you guys actually on the ground (Qazwsx5) say which clubs are now open. We know E92 is, but are Scanadalos / Glass Palace Estepona, and Fontana open? Hearing that Miladys P is closed still makes me wonder which clubs on the CDS other than E92 are open. Thanks.Pygmalion is like milady palace. I think they have rooms there too, but not too sure.

Ok CDS, Malaga area =scandalo is open, sala divas is open too (this one not too sure but pretty sure), velazquez24 is open, atico is open, the rest I don't know.

Marbella area =casa masa open. A few days ago I saw glass palace ad cards in banus, so it should be open but again not too sure. Never been to Fontana but since it is like Estark (hotel thingy) I think it is open as there ain't that many puticlub around there. Expect others in Marbella area to be open too.

Milady is closed but expect it to be back in June, LE coq dor is shut since last year (not sure if they ever open again or not).

Qazwsx5
05-05-21, 01:10
Yes, you must. But, they don't have on-premises rooms there (at least I don't think they do). In which case, you would have to bring the girl back to your hotel room. And, your feelings about Vive are how I feel when I step into "the other" Scandallo. The one in Sao Paulo, Brazil. The one that I call the baddest "puta palace" on the planet!

https://vimeo.com/162586573I can confirm that Vive and Pygmalion are open everyday till 23:00 due to curfew. But Sunday the curfew ends, so back to normal possibly.

Wiild
05-05-21, 14:01
Nice. I wonder how a top 10 list of world wide best puti-clubs would look like? Some have been mentioned here already, maybe add Hong Kong club in Tijuana. Some Rio clubs? La Isla in Medellin, Colombia maybe. Questionably the top Swiss, Austrian and German FKKs could make it. If the Buenos Aires clubs from 10 years ago would be open they would qualify for sure.


The one that I call the baddest "puta palace" on the planet!

https://vimeo.com/162586573

Qazwsx5
05-05-21, 23:28
I really must get to Pygmalion. Never been and it's the only Madrid club I've not been to. Even if it is only to go and do one room there, have to take it off my bucket list. Loved Factory Air in the early days. Vive is just heaven. I've never found choosing so hard. Every time I've been there there have been 20+ girls I would select and I believe I am picky. Every nationality catered for and have never had a bad night there. Cheap entry though the drinks are not cheap. Love the vibe even if it is a bit far out in the north of Madrid. I love Estark 92 at Hotel Diana Plus. Had some fabulous nights there. Must take a trip I to Madrid when the madness subsides. One of my favourite cities. But to get back to the good old CDS, can you guys actually on the ground (Qazwsx5) say which clubs are now open. We know E92 is, but are Scanadalos / Glass Palace Estepona, and Fontana open? Hearing that Miladys P is closed still makes me wonder which clubs on the CDS other than E92 are open. Thanks.Just to add, selecta torremolinos is also open.

PFI, are Julia and Stephany back at estark now? Around what time do these two come down to the bar? Could you please text her and ask her.

PayForIt
05-06-21, 00:59
Qazwsx5 - thanks for the information on open / closed clubs. I know Julia is back. She text me 3 days ago asking when I'm returning. I had hoped end of May or June but I have work now in Australia so that is looking unlikely. Beginning to wonder when I will ever see Spain again. Nightmare given I have a property on CDS! Anyway, don't know if Stephany is back but have WhatsApped Julia to find out and will let you know when she replies (with their starting times). Interesting that Vive is open as I know from the owner of E92 that they are happy to have had 4/5 girls from Vive go down to coast to work.

Cane. Oh I've seen the reports about the alternative Scandallo and for sure I would love to get there.

PayForIt
05-07-21, 02:11
Just to add, selecta torremolinos is also open.

PFI, are Julia and Stephany back at estark now? Around what time do these two come down to the bar? Could you please text her and ask her.Spoke to Julia today. She is in Spain but not working at the moment. As you know. She is very popular and does not therefore need to overwork / tire her body or mind out. Stephany is back in Romania. So currently these two are not options. Sorry. Will let you know if that changes and they tell me.

Qazwsx5
05-07-21, 16:16
Spoke to Julia today. She is in Spain but not working at the moment. As you know. She is very popular and does not therefore need to overwork / tire her body or mind out. Stephany is back in Romania. So currently these two are not options. Sorry. Will let you know if that changes and they tell me.Thanks,

I want to go there next week, really wanted to try Stephany, hope she is back by then.

Qazwsx5
05-07-21, 17:46
Update,

Nearly all of the measures are lifted from Sunday, restaurants can stay open till 00:00, discos till 2 AM, no curfew and etc. And from 21th of June starts the normal life in Andalucía.

Wiild
05-10-21, 19:35
Thanks for update Qazwsx5. I get happy, optimistic hearing this.


Update,

Nearly all of the measures are lifted from Sunday, restaurants can stay open till 00:00, discos till 2 AM, no curfew and etc. And from 21th of June starts the normal life in Andaluca.

Qazwsx5
05-11-21, 23:15
Thanks for update Qazwsx5. I get happy, optimistic hearing this.Selecta in Torremolinos is open, looked busy the other night from outside.

Disco club part of the Estark is open again (from 5 pm) it is the only entrance to the club. The line up is very good, some new Latinos.

Scandalo is open too, 230 euros an hour now. Line up not that good, but will possibly improve as situation is getting back to normal.

The Cane
05-11-21, 23:43
Selecta in Torremolinos is open, looked busy the other night from outside.

Disco club part of the Estark is open again (from 5 pm) it is the only entrance to the club. The line up is very good, some new Latinos.

Scandalo is open too, 230 euros an hour now. Line up not that good, but will possibly improve as situation is getting back to normal.I think the Scandalo price is a rip-off! You can't even count on BBBJ / CIM and anal for that! Forget it man! Other places like Germany and Brazil offer more value for the money.

Qazwsx5
05-12-21, 01:15
I think the Scandalo price is a rip-off! You can't even count on BBBJ / CIM and anal for that! Forget it man! Other places like Germany and Brazil offer more value for the money.Also you have to pay 25 euros entrance (gets you 2 drinks) , now half an hour is 115 euros, an hour 230 euros. You are right about the value, but sometimes they raise the prices to stand out and attract only rich clients who are willing to spend more and are less of a problem (they are not interested in young noisy guys without money going there just to watch and cause problems, rich men usually go to places where it is safe, quiet and classy) , and attract better girls too. Whether there are enough rich guys to keep it going remains to be seen, (miladys been 350 for years now and it is still going, but of course that is in Marbella).

But they have lowered the 30 min from 150 to 115 ,so that's better now.

Qazwsx5
05-12-21, 01:18
Spoke to Julia today. She is in Spain but not working at the moment. As you know. She is very popular and does not therefore need to overwork / tire her body or mind out. Stephany is back in Romania. So currently these two are not options. Sorry. Will let you know if that changes and they tell me.Hi PFI,

Do you know when Stephany is going to come back? Has Julia told you anything about it?

Thanks.

PayForIt
05-14-21, 03:55
Hi PFI,

Do you know when Stephany is going to come back? Has Julia told you anything about it?

Thanks.Alas not. I enquired not only for you but me. As I had hoped to be able to get to Spain before end of May / early June and hoped to visit but that is not possible (for non covid reasons). Julia has still not returned to the club. I believe she has a couple of wealthy private clients. For the avoidance of doubt she does not advertise on any of the bait and switch escort sites. Stephany remains in Romania with no current plan to return. Sorry it is not better news. If it changes and they tell me I shall post to let you know.

Sirioja
05-14-21, 10:22
Alas not. I enquired not only for you but me. As I had hoped to be able to get to Spain before end of May / early June and hoped to visit but that is not possible (for non covid reasons). Julia has still not returned to the club. I believe she has a couple of wealthy private clients. For the avoidance of doubt she does not advertise on any of the bait and switch escort sites. Stephany remains in Romania with no current plan to return. Sorry it is not better news. If it changes and they tell me I shall post to let you know.Didn't your pretty Julia tell you when she plans to return to work? Because very long drive only worth if beauties, when I'm not sure sea will be warm enough on first mid June, but last snow falls in France should be good for early Summer ski in Tignes, maybe 2 Alps to cross Girose glacier to make oxygen, and Klein Matterhorn. Ch if Breuil Cervinia. It can reach.

PayForIt
05-15-21, 00:56
Didn't your pretty Julia tell you when she plans to return to work? Because very long drive only worth if beauties, when I'm not sure sea will be warm enough on first mid June, but last snow falls in France should be good for early Summer ski in Tignes, maybe 2 Alps to cross Girose glacier to make oxygen, and Klein Matterhorn. Ch if Breuil Cervinia. It can reach.No confirmation yet but as ever Siri. You should not make a journey to any venue (club or otherwise) just for one girl! You never know when she has a day off / is unwell etc.

Julia is a very pretty girl. She is not a 10/10 stunner. But a solid 9 and a lovely girl. There are other pretty girls at E92 but then I have not been there since last year. So better rely upon more recent reports from Qaz who last reported an upturn in numbers.

I most definitely wouldn't make the sort of long trip by road you are contemplating without having an itinerary to visit more than one club.

Hoping to finally get back to the CDS business permitting in early June.

Sirioja
05-15-21, 06:47
No confirmation yet but as ever Siri. You should not make a journey to any venue (club or otherwise) just for one girl! You never know when she has a day off / is unwell etc.

Julia is a very pretty girl. She is not a 10/10 stunner. But a solid 9 and a lovely girl. There are other pretty girls at E92 but then I have not been there since last year. So better rely upon more recent reports from Qaz who last reported an upturn in numbers.

I most definitely wouldn't make the sort of long trip by road you are contemplating without having an itinerary to visit more than one club.

Hoping to finally get back to the CDS business permitting in early June.Never been to E92, but I don't think I will find so many beauties for me, when I usually don't find in most clubs, even very expensive ones like Aphrodisia Zurich, and when you tell 2 girls are now off even never saw both, when Milady seem still closed, when Scandalo should not be for my tastes, when nearly 4000 kms driving which is not a problem for me about kilometers and hours driving, but need motivation, even Spain with sea and good foods is better than Germany for holidays. Also thinking about ski as soon reopening, to prepare for bicycle.

Qazwsx5
05-15-21, 22:17
It seems that LE coq dor (fancy club in front of casino torrequebrada) is open again, since Thursday the lights are on again and the gate is open.

Qazwsx5
05-15-21, 23:15
Never been to E92, but I don't think I will find so many beauties for me, when I usually don't find in most clubs, even very expensive ones like Aphrodisia Zurich, and when you tell 2 girls are now off even never saw both, when Milady seem still closed, when Scandalo should not be for my tastes, when nearly 4000 kms driving which is not a problem for me about kilometers and hours driving, but need motivation, even Spain with sea and good foods is better than Germany for holidays. Also thinking about ski as soon reopening, to prepare for bicycle.Milady palace will be open by the time you come here. And yes there are so many beauties around here (Marbella area) if you are willing to spend BIG. Don't know how much you are willing to spend, if money is no problem for you, then you won't have hard time finding what you like, but expect to spend huge sums of money for stunners.

Sirioja
05-16-21, 05:47
It seems that LE coq dor (fancy club in front of casino torrequebrada) is open again, since Thursday the lights are on again and the gate is open.What type of girls there? Only Latinas who could interest me are Argentinas looking like Italians.

Sirioja
05-16-21, 06:01
Milady palace will be open by the time you come here. And yes there are so many beauties around here (Marbella area) if you are willing to spend BIG. Don't know how much you are willing to spend, if money is no problem for you, then you won't have hard time finding what you like, but expect to spend huge sums of money for stunners.If I can manage about job, I have only a 5 days week end on 10 June, before my Summer sports. May be a bit early for warm sea. For me, all girls don t worth same rate, depending on look and aura, but good time for not so expensive rate is part of quality for me, when I have a big default to be very picky for look and manners. I won t pay more than 200/30 and 300/60 and she will really have to be a elegant supermodel. I don't like to waste my money. I was used to have beauties in Germany for 100/60.

Qazwsx5
05-16-21, 22:44
What type of girls there? Only Latinas who could interest me are Argentinas looking like Italians.Mostly Latina, but sometimes there are quite a few EE.

Qazwsx5
05-16-21, 22:45
If I can manage about job, I have only a 5 days week end on 10 June, before my Summer sports. May be a bit early for warm sea. For me, all girls don t worth same rate, depending on look and aura, but good time for not so expensive rate is part of quality for me, when I have a big default to be very picky for look and manners. I won t pay more than 200/30 and 300/60 and she will really have to be a elegant supermodel. I don't like to waste my money. I was used to have beauties in Germany for 100/60.300 euros for 60 min, you should be able to find some good looking ones (freelancers in Marbella area) but if you want real stunner then you must pay much more as Andaluz expat and Magicsheep have reported.

Sirioja
05-17-21, 22:35
300 euros for 60 min, you should be able to find some good looking ones (freelancers in Marbella area) but if you want real stunner then you must pay much more as Andaluz expat and Magicsheep have reported.I never play rich with girls, not my game. The girl will have to be a lovely supermodel to deserve my 300, when I used to have beauties for 100/60.

Wiild
05-18-21, 07:15
Alright now we know ALOT about Sirioja's likes, dislikes, favorite girls, willingness of paying, what venues might suit this one member. Sirioja: I suggest you say thank you and use this information that the friendly experts here have provided you, then fly to Malaga and find out yourself report back. Have fun.

Qazwsx5
05-18-21, 18:39
Ina was working the days I visited, I have never spoken to the girl but wanted to take her upstairs this time, but she was always occupied during my visits. I don't know who the other girls are, I went with Bianca a couple of times, petit dark haired girl with enhanced tits, not a stunner but she knows what she's doing, excellent service. In my opinion there are a few options, and I am picky.Hi buddy,

Does Bianca have a tattoo on her thigh? Is it that one?

Sirioja
05-18-21, 22:00
Alright now we know ALOT about Sirioja's likes, dislikes, favorite girls, willingness of paying, what venues might suit this one member. Sirioja: I suggest you say thank you and use this information that the friendly experts here have provided you, then fly to Malaga and find out yourself report back. Have fun.My best pleasure may be the driving from Paris, it will be more than 3000 kms to go and back, like I love to clean German autobahns. Wish sea will be warm enough for me, meaning warmer than 24. I love jamon with tomatoes on bread, and I will see for girls, at least will be my first holidays since October, when had sad Winter with no ski. But I want Summer ski, as soon will open, snow should be quite good.

PayForIt
05-19-21, 08:47
Alright now we know ALOT about Sirioja's likes, dislikes, favorite girls, willingness of paying, what venues might suit this one member. Sirioja: I suggest you say thank you and use this information that the friendly experts here have provided you, then fly to Malaga and find out yourself report back. Have fun.In fairness to Sirioja. He has been a prolific reporter of his experiences in the German FKK threads and provided a LOT of very useful information on girls / clubs what to expect etc. So he is most definitely not in the "all about me" club. He is clearly just sounding out new territory, getting a feel for what to expect and I have no doubt that should he visit, he will post equally informative accounts.

Glad to read from Qazwsx5 that things are picking up - 30+ girls at E92 etc.

I am very much hoping to get over to Europe / Spain in June.

Wiild
05-19-21, 13:09
Si senor. Looking forward to it. And I am also looking forward visiting soon and getting some of that jamon with tomatoes on bread.


In fairness to Sirioja, he will post equally informative accounts.

Sirioja
05-19-21, 21:21
In fairness to Sirioja. He has been a prolific reporter of his experiences in the German FKK threads and provided a LOT of very useful information on girls / clubs what to expect etc. So he is most definitely not in the "all about me" club. He is clearly just sounding out new territory, getting a feel for what to expect and I have no doubt that should he visit, he will post equally informative accounts.

Glad to read from Qazwsx5 that things are picking up - 30+ girls at E92 etc.

I am very much hoping to get over to Europe / Spain in June.And I thank you and Qaz and MagicS for information's, at least a useful thread, when Cost del Sol is very far for me, so I need a bit more motivation than jamon, even I love it. If I go, it will be on 10 June, or I will have to wait November after my Summer tour.

Qazwsx5
05-21-21, 22:43
Well, there are more girls in estark now, more are coming and the quailty has gone up compared to a few weeks ago, the disco area does not open till 23,00 , so maybe a sign that there aint that many mongers, but they think that its going to change soon (so better be quick if you want to visit before it gets real busy).

Scandalo: the quality is rocketing up tbh. One month ago the quality was bad and not worth the 230 euros an hour but now there are much more girls and some real hotties. 15 euros entrance and 230 an hour so not cheap but the quality is really high. Lets hope it stays that way.

Fontana: is open, quality not too sure.

Glass palace open, quality is good.

Lots of independents are also around according to andalus expat (check out the main page for details).

So not a bad time to come here.

Sirioja
05-22-21, 06:58
Well, there are more girls in estark now, more are coming and the quailty has gone up compared to a few weeks ago, the disco area does not open till 23,00 , so maybe a sign that there aint that many mongers, but they think that its going to change soon (so better be quick if you want to visit before it gets real busy).

Scandalo: the quality is rocketing up tbh. One month ago the quality was bad and not worth the 230 euros an hour but now there are much more girls and some real hotties. 15 euros entrance and 230 an hour so not cheap but the quality is really high. Lets hope it stays that way.

Fontana: is open, quality not too sure.

Glass palace open, quality is good.

Lots of independents are also around according to andalus expat (check out the main page for details).

So not a bad time to come here.Thanks again for your news. What types of girls in Scandalo at the moment? I thought I also read 30 mn rate? Wish for warm sea without medusas.

PayForIt
05-22-21, 09:25
Well, there are more girls in estark now, more are coming and the quailty has gone up compared to a few weeks ago, the disco area does not open till 23,00 , so maybe a sign that there aint that many mongers, but they think that its going to change soon (so better be quick if you want to visit before it gets real busy).

Scandalo: the quality is rocketing up tbh. One month ago the quality was bad and not worth the 230 euros an hour but now there are much more girls and some real hotties. 15 euros entrance and 230 an hour so not cheap but the quality is really high. Lets hope it stays that way.

Fontana: is open, quality not too sure.

Glass palace open, quality is good.

Lots of independents are also around according to andalus expat (check out the main page for details).

So not a bad time to come here.Thanks for the update. All sounds very positive.

Qazwsx5
05-28-21, 00:19
Thanks again for your news. What types of girls in Scandalo at the moment? I thought I also read 30 mn rate? Wish for warm sea without medusas.30 min is 115 at scandalos, mostly Latina but also some EE, the quality is high. Also check out slumi Marbella, there are independents, very high quality, with faces uncovered and videos.

CoastGuy62
06-01-21, 22:24
Hi guys!

Finaly back at CDS next week, how is the opening hours at Estark? Homepage shows 01 pm to 22:30, isn't it open to 02:00?

How is the lineup early on the day? Or is most of the Girls going down later as always before??

Any tall or blonde Romanian girls?? None of my favorites is there but hopefully there is new ones to find.

Qazwsx5
06-02-21, 20:08
Hi guys!

Finaly back at CDS next week, how is the opening hours at Estark? Homepage shows 01 pm to 22:30, isn't it open to 02:00?

How is the lineup early on the day? Or is most of the Girls going down later as always before??

Any tall or blonde Romanian girls?? None of my favorites is there but hopefully there is new ones to find.Estark is op2 n till 2,00 AM, the disco area opens at round 23.00 so that's when it gets busy. It is open from 13.00 I think but most of the girls come down later in the day. There are about 40-50 girls working so you won't have problem finding what you like.

Scandalo is also open and quality is very high, Marbella area is also very lively, high quality but very pricy.

Please report back.

Qazwsx5
06-04-21, 23:23
I can confirm that milady palace is open again. About 7,8 punter at round 7 o clock.

Sirioja
06-05-21, 12:32
I can confirm that milady palace is open again. About 7,8 punter at round 7 o clock.What type of girls? Rate?

Qazwsx5
06-06-21, 00:48
What type of girls? Rate?Mostly EE, rate 350 an hour.

PayForIt
06-06-21, 01:00
So finally got back to the CDS last week and tonight was my first trip to E92 for some time. I have been spoilt in other pastures where the pickings were plentiful and good.

Checked into the club and selected my usual suite with big round bed. Casino area open until 12 but after that it closes and the club bar opens. I am sad to say that whilst there were are lot more girls than the end of 2020, the standard IMHO was really very poor. Many old favourites. Nicole (blonde glasses), Monika (slim brunette) Monica (long brunette hair and braces (very sexy girl with great service), and Bianca (slim and now with large silicones), as well as Sabrina (athletic body) big glasses.

Ina, Julia, Stephany, Elena, Alicia, Ada, Daniella all not present.

The options were poor and I actually wondered about leaving and going to Scandalos. Hit the bar final time and saw Camilla. Very slim Columbian. Not typical in shape. Very tight body. Enhanced boobs but her ass was not fat and was superb in the room. Great service. Nice girl. Shower and back into the bar. Contemplated Sabrina. Always looks sexy but opted for Florentine. Dark haired pretty Romanian. Bigger in size than my normal choice but her language skills were excellent and she as good in the room.

I normally find a girl I really like and do several hours. Not so tonight. Waited some time for this and alas I was disappointed and felt that I will try Sala Divas, Fontana, Cleofas or even scandalous prices Scandalos next week.

Sirioja. E92 not currently worth a long drive with poor options.

Sirioja
06-06-21, 07:11
So finally got back to the CDS last week and tonight was my first trip to E92 for some time. I have been spoilt in other pastures where the pickings were plentiful and good.

Checked into the club and selected my usual suite with big round bed. Casino area open until 12 but after that it closes and the club bar opens. I am sad to say that whilst there were are lot more girls than the end of 2020, the standard IMHO was really very poor. Many old favourites. Nicole (blonde glasses), Monika (slim brunette) Monica (long brunette hair and braces (very sexy girl with great service), and Bianca (slim and now with large silicones), as well as Sabrina (athletic body) big glasses.

Ina, Julia, Stephany, Elena, Alicia, Ada, Daniella all not present.

The options were poor and I actually wondered about leaving and going to Scandalos. Hit the bar final time and saw Camilla. Very slim Columbian. Not typical in shape. Very tight body. Enhanced boobs but her ass was not fat and was superb in the room. Great service. Nice girl. Shower and back into the bar. Contemplated Sabrina. Always looks sexy but opted for Florentine. Dark haired pretty Romanian. Bigger in size than my normal choice but her language skills were excellent and she as good in the room.

I normally find a girl I really like and do several hours. Not so tonight. Waited some time for this and alas I was disappointed and felt that I will try Sala Divas, Fontana, Cleofas or even scandalous prices Scandalos next week.

Sirioja. E92 not currently worth a long drive with poor options.I wish you will find good girls for You, maybe also in Madrid? Can t You contact your favs in CDS? I planned for next week end, but covid complicated and delayed my job, and after I will have to start my sporty with Summer ski and many climbing Summer, so I will see on October / November for maybe Indian Summer there.

Qazwsx5
06-06-21, 13:43
So finally got back to the CDS last week and tonight was my first trip to E92 for some time. I have been spoilt in other pastures where the pickings were plentiful and good.

Checked into the club and selected my usual suite with big round bed. Casino area open until 12 but after that it closes and the club bar opens. I am sad to say that whilst there were are lot more girls than the end of 2020, the standard IMHO was really very poor. Many old favourites. Nicole (blonde glasses), Monika (slim brunette) Monica (long brunette hair and braces (very sexy girl with great service), and Bianca (slim and now with large silicones), as well as Sabrina (athletic body) big glasses.

Ina, Julia, Stephany, Elena, Alicia, Ada, Daniella all not present.

The options were poor and I actually wondered about leaving and going to Scandalos. Hit the bar final time and saw Camilla. Very slim Columbian. Not typical in shape. Very tight body. Enhanced boobs but her ass was not fat and was superb in the room. Great service. Nice girl. Shower and back into the bar. Contemplated Sabrina. Always looks sexy but opted for Florentine. Dark haired pretty Romanian. Bigger in size than my normal choice but her language skills were excellent and she as good in the room..As you say the quality at Estark is not great although there are more girls coming. But there are still a few options if it is your first time, I understand your disappointment as you have already tried those before.

I suggest that you have a look at slumi marella page, filter videos. So you can see their faces and everything. There are some real hotties (I know you like clubs better, but the quality is really good, so worth a try).

Jummy1
06-07-21, 15:53
I'm on the Costa too for 4 weeks! Arrived Saturday.

I would be interested in views on Club Selecta, and Sala Divas, never been! PFI, if you fancy hooking up let me know somehow?

PayForIt
06-07-21, 23:09
As you say the quality at Estark is not great although there are more girls coming. But there are still a few options if it is your first time, I understand your disappointment as you have already tried those before.

I suggest that you have a look at slumi marella page, filter videos. So you can see their faces and everything. There are some real hotties (I know you like clubs better, but the quality is really good, so worth a try).You make a fair point. For a first timer I think there are some decent options. Bianca now with her large silicones and slim body looks really good. But for me it felt like I walked into a brothel where there really were only very few new girls. Probably why I opted for Camilla and Florentine. Both nice girls and Nicolette slim, tall, brunette Ro was pretty. Don't know why I expected it to change so much in only a few months. Somehow thought there would have been a lot more options but I suppose if Julia / Ina / Alicia / Daniella / Elena / Ana / Gihara had all been there I would have been spoilt for choice!

Thanks re Slumi but I'm afraid I am completely done with escorts. Been the victim of so many bait and switch. Not only in Spain but elsewhere. I want to choose a girl in the flesh. I doubt I'll ever do anything else in future other than when a girl I know goes independent. Which has happened with a few here. But then I know what I'm getting. Even then, how they dress matters to me. I had 10 rooms with Monica last year. She looked hot every week! On Saturday she wore jeans and a t shirt and looked very plain. Had I never seen her in some stunning outfits last year I would have rated her as very average. It's a night out for me not just about the sex. So the whole mingling with the girls and having a chat, playing casino, having a few beers. I don't want to knock on a door and get straight to it. However pretty the girl is.

I'm minded to try Cleofas and Scandalos and even Sala Divas and will report back if I do.

Jummy1 - thanks for the invite but I honestly don't know where I'll be on any day, or even if I will stay in Spain for long this trip.

Qazwsx5
06-08-21, 00:50
You make a fair point. For a first timer I think there are some decent options. Bianca now with her large silicones and slim body looks really good. But for me it felt like I walked into a brothel where there really were only very few new girls. Probably why I opted for Camilla and Florentine. Both nice girls and Nicolette slim, tall, brunette Ro was pretty. Don't know why I expected it to change so much in only a few months. Somehow thought there would have been a lot more options but I suppose if Julia / Ina / Alicia / Daniella / Elena / Ana / Gihara had all been there I would have been spoilt for choice!

Thanks re Slumi but I'm afraid I am completely done with escorts. Been the victim of so many bait and switch. Not only in Spain but elsewhere. I want to choose a girl in the flesh. I doubt I'll ever do anything else in future other than when a girl I know goes independent. Which has happened with a few here. But then I know what I'm getting. Even then, how they dress matters to me. I had 10 rooms with Monica last year. She looked hot every week! On Saturday she wore jeans and a t shirt and looked very plain. Had I never seen her in some stunning outfits last year I would have rated her as very average. It's a night out for me not just about the sex. So the whole mingling with the girls and having a chat, playing casino, having a few beers. I don't want to knock on a door and get straight to it. However pretty the girl is..Scandalo should be better, milady is also open. So report back please if you visit. I know what you mean about escorts, but I have heard very good things about some of them. They also do come out for dinner and everything, so may be worth it. There are a few I like on slumi Marbella. May try them.

Wiild
06-08-21, 07:51
I so much agree with this. To me the hobby is about having a great experience and that includes so much more than just finding a good looking, well performing girl. The Malaga area is great for this.

E92 and Scandalo are pretty easy to reach with local transportation / taxi, not always the case in Spain, this means one can have 2-4 drinks.


how they dress matters to me. ...... It's a night out for me not just about the sex. So the whole mingling with the girls and having a chat, playing casino, having a few beers. I don't want to knock on a door and get straight to it.