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Jdbkk555
11-17-07, 05:55
A brief report on my week in GDL. I arrived late on Sunday. On arrival, made some calls and in half an hour or so, this rather tall lady shows up at my door. Though not really my type, I figure what the hell. Ball buster. She had this thing about yanking the crown jewels, cracking them together. My god, I walked gently the next day. She's on my do not try again list.

Monday night I figure. Try again. An acceptable 28 year old lady with a strong perfume shows up. After the previous night, I was a bit nervous about getting another nazi hooker. I'd guess this gal has been in the biz for a while, she was an expert at the slip the lid on CBJ. Ok overall. I started to get a bit frustrated. My last trip, this agency sent me young chica babe, one after another. Perhaps the well ran dry. I talked the the nice English speaking lady on the phone that is there till 8:00 most days. Told her of my disappointments.

Tuesday. A very nice, young, sexy lady appears at my door with a soft knock. It's 9:30 or so at night. She is nervious on arrival and says in pretty good English that the security guys are on to her. Sure enough. A minute later a knock at the door. Two security dudes with the thing in the ear tell me the young lady has to go to the lobby to register. I say ok. Ok. Back in the room, she tells me she didn't bring her papers. We decide to punt for the night. I give her taxi fare and off she goes with the guys in the suits. Later I read the little hotel book and sure enough. There is a Mexican law requiring all guests to register. Unfortunately, I'm in one of two hotels in the city that takes law enforcement seriously. I'm an unhappy camper.

Wednesday. I try the early shift, before dinner, thinking this will work better as the security nazi's are not as serious at that hour. The attached nice 19 YO gal named Krystal shows up at my door. I'm pretty sure she is one that visited me last trip. I was her initiation customer. Nice body, good spirit. The pics attached are a progression of her after clean up and on route out the door. She was a bit leary of her picture being taken but agreed in the end.

Thursday. I sit in the lobby for a bit to understand how the security nazi's operate. Sure enough. Virtually every young, nice looking chica that comes in solo is approached by the guys in the suits. The truck show across the street must have brought out tight security. This might explain why my ok and a bit older Sunday/Monday get past just fine and Tue got bounced. I called in and settled for miss Monday again figuring I'd rather be a sure thing and a bit disappointed than left holding the bag alone. She showed up, same strong perfume. We got to chat a bit, she turned out nicer than my impression from early in the week. She's anxious to get down to business and is becoming wet to the touch (a contrast to the dry well of Monday). Turns out to be a good ride partner afterall. I simply let her take charge. She came 3-4 times. She was a wealth of information. Told me about which are the difficult hotels for security and which are easy (obviously she has experience). Gives me the run down on the city's escort scene.

Friday. I pre-arranged an appetizer of miss Krystal. Apparently she still lives at home with mom/dad and doesnt work after 8:00. Damn hot chick. I sat her on the little sofa in the room where we tried several positions. I wanted to see how much she enjoyed my company. I positioned her onto the floor to ceiling windows to enjoy the view a bit while I test her back door. I like this young lady. Firm and despite being a fresh 19, knows how to enjoy herself and please a man. As I'm leaving noonish tomorrow, perhaps I'll give one last call for a last sample of this fine lady.

Happy hunting

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Jdbkk555
11-17-07, 19:38
I had time to kill today, Saturday so I decided to enjoy another morning of luxury. I called up my agency lady. She gave me the run down. There seem to be a different selection during the day than at night. Young ones in the day. I offered to take a young 20 yo blonde. Unfortunately, she showed up in the lobby with way too obvious "call me a hooker" clothing and was snagged by the nazi security team right away. I sat near by to watch the proceedings. As she moved from one lobby area to another. The security lady assigned to her would simply move and stand 15ft from her. A half an hour later, the game plan changed. Fortunately for me. My favorite chica Krystal was also in the lobby. I'm not sure why exactly, perhaps the back up plan? Anyway, just as the two ladies started to March off, I headed for the lift to my room. I was not sure if I was to be disapointed (again) or not. Fortunately, a very sexy Krystal was standing there on the other side of a knock. She came in and told me that the blonde had too much security problems and asked if she was ok. Of course she was ok. So we banged and licked for a couple of hours till I'm ready for the long flight home.

Miss Krystal was already moist to the touch, signaling that she must enjoy herself in my company. This time, I noticed she was freely stroking herself from underneith when I was behind her. I just hope this little sexy young chica remains somewhat amature in her serivce. Some day she'll make an outstanding wife.

I suspect the secret to how Krystal is successful getting past the nazi guards is because she drives her own car to the hotel and uses the garage lift to enter. This must not trigger the same security reaction when blonde bomb shell steps out of a taxi or worse yet walks in from the street.

Overall. This week has been a mixed week. One absolute dud. I tried to explain a dead fish to one of the ladies and she laughed. One unfortunate security interruption event (too bad as she looked hot), 2 nights with a nice but not exactly hot material 28 yo, and 3 rounds with Krystal. I suppose the 3 solid rounds with miss K really boosts the average up, but compared to my last visit, still a bit of a let down. Perhaps next time I'll stay at the Camino Real which is reported much easier on the security scene.

Till next time. Ciao and happy hunting.

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Happy Hunting
11-19-07, 19:39
Ok So one thing about strip clubs in GDL, they are a complete waste of money. There are definitely some girls there that are ready for some action however the price is usually not worth it. One exception to this is a club called boom boom. I went in this place one time and there were absolute monsters on stage. Roaches all over and to be honest I just could not wait to leave. Out of all the girls there only one was hot. I few days ago the story was completely different. I was convinced buy a group of friends to give it another shot because you can spend well over 8 hrs there for less than 100 dlrs. I took the bait and I am glad I did.

When I walked it I was shocked to find that there were about 15 Hot girls working. Beers were about 2 dlrs and to buy a girl a drink it was only about 6 dlrs. That is about how much a regular drink costs in the states so I was happy. If you don’t know how it works in Mexico lady drinks can be as much as 30 dlrs. I was there with a few friends and there wasn’t a time where there was less than 2 hot ladies at the table. So here are the prices my friend got a BJ in the back for 150 pesos if you want full service it is about 65 dlrs. The bill came at the end of the night and I thought the guy dropped a phonebook on the table. The bill wasn’t even 80 dlrs each. This night in the states would have easily cost us 2, 500 dlrs. We tipped the waiter 20 and I thought he wanted to blow us. The trick is to keep these guys happy and they will take good care of you. He kept the linebackers away and only brought the girls we asked for to the table. In short the Boom Boom was great one time and terible one time but it is cheap and you can have some fun without breaking the bank.

Mill Just
11-19-07, 22:12
You should do what I usually do when out of my hometown of Morelia and staying at a nice hotel. I keep a mongering room at a decent motel de paso so that I can take care of all my "needs" at the motel and keep a decent reputation at my swankier hotel. This way, there are no embarrassing security problems and I'm assured to get any chica I like with absolutely no hassle. Sometimes, when staying at a nice hotel, the dreaded "mongering death walk" to the lobby to pick up a chica or vouch for her can be the biggest pain in the ass, but for a 200 peso motel de paso, all that can be avoided.

Have Fun,

Mill


I had time to kill today, Saturday so I decided to enjoy another morning of luxury. I called up my agency lady. She gave me the run down. There seem to be a different selection during the day than at night. Young ones in the day. I offered to take a young 20 yo blonde. Unfortunately, she showed up in the lobby with way too obvious "call me a hooker" clothing and was snagged by the nazi security team right away. I sat near by to watch the proceedings. As she moved from one lobby area to another. The security lady assigned to her would simply move and stand 15ft from her. A half an hour later, the game plan changed. Fortunately for me. My favorite chica Krystal was also in the lobby. I'm not sure why exactly, perhaps the back up plan? Anyway, just as the two ladies started to March off, I headed for the lift to my room. I was not sure if I was to be disapointed (again) or not. Fortunately, a very sexy Krystal was standing there on the other side of a knock. She came in and told me that the blonde had too much security problems and asked if she was ok. Of course she was ok. So we banged and licked for a couple of hours till I'm ready for the long flight home.

Miss Krystal was already moist to the touch, signaling that she must enjoy herself in my company. This time, I noticed she was freely stroking herself from underneith when I was behind her. I just hope this little sexy young chica remains somewhat amature in her serivce. Some day she'll make an outstanding wife.

I suspect the secret to how Krystal is successful getting past the nazi guards is because she drives her own car to the hotel and uses the garage lift to enter. This must not trigger the same security reaction when blonde bomb shell steps out of a taxi or worse yet walks in from the street.

Overall. This week has been a mixed week. One absolute dud. I tried to explain a dead fish to one of the ladies and she laughed. One unfortunate security interruption event (too bad as she looked hot), 2 nights with a nice but not exactly hot material 28 yo, and 3 rounds with Krystal. I suppose the 3 solid rounds with miss K really boosts the average up, but compared to my last visit, still a bit of a let down. Perhaps next time I'll stay at the Camino Real which is reported much easier on the security scene.

Till next time. Ciao and happy hunting.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

CrimsonKing
12-03-07, 05:58
Went out mongering on a Sunday evening in el Centro in Guadalajara. It was Sunday night about 8 PM--traffic was a nightmare in el Centro, so I was already in a bad mood. I went to several hotels (Hotel Paris, Hotel Hidalgo and The Orange Wall). All three had terrible selection--nothing better than a 4 or a 5--fat and ugly. Going price was 250 pesos for sex--room paid by the *****. I passed on all offers. One of the *****s suggested that I come during the day for a different selection, starting at 10 AM. I'll let you know how it goes.

Coahuila
12-04-07, 07:10
i was just there on saturday. selection was shitty as well, but i banged some chick from puebla at hotel hidalgo.

here are some notes i have picked up over the last few months (i live here)

hotel hidalgo: sometimes there are some ok hotties during the day. if you like indias.

hotel paris: i have found one decent one there in the evening, around 8 pm. here name was sandra (alejandra) and she was from el salto. too much of a stomach but the rest was great for $180 pesos.

hotel independencia: never seen anything worthwhile.

hotel vigo: never seen anything worthwhile, although one oaxacan girl was kind of cute but she looked ****d.

orange wall: never seen anything worth while, until this last saturday, when i saw two girls outside that looked doable... i meant to go back and investigate better, but forgot.

hotel ? (lisboa maybe) around the corner from orange wall:
always bitches there, never anything useful.

if you want some hot ass girls from cheap, try the calle 52, between alvaro obregon and 12 de julio. starting at 8 or 9 pm there are absolutely smoking girls in a little house which charge you $350 pesos per trip. the best kept secret in guad.

cheers,

coahuila

CrimsonKing
12-07-07, 16:15
I picked up the local sports newspaper “Esto,” from Guadalajara which has two full pages of ads for working girls. I called Julieta (her ad stated in Spanish, cute university girl, smart with good attitude, little and thin, a great lover). She would not come to my house, only hotels—so I passed.

Next, I called Jessica (her ad stated 19 years old, promotion 700 pesos for 1 hour). On the phone she stated 700 pesos for 1 hour, 900 pesos for 90 minutes. I asked her to come over to my house at 3 PM on a Wednesday afternoon. She arrived a little late. She was at best 6 because she was not horribly fat. Her complexion was nice, but she was just FUGLY. She insisted I pay her 900 pesos up front. And the price was actually 900 pesos for 60 minutes (not the 700 in the ad, and that we agreed to on the phone). I’m in my late 30’s and in good physical condition – I could not maintain an erection—one never even started. When we started to undress she started with a fake high pitched moan. It was like needles in my ears and the beginning of the end. No GFE whatsoever. No kissing. This was horrible. Her looks did not help. She tried jacking me off, and CBJ to no avail. I gave up and told her I’m used to more attractive girls and led her out. Lesson learned. If she is not up to your standards, dismiss her. Make that clear before she arrives.

Guadalajara Don
12-11-07, 18:54
I have read with interest reports regarding my home city. I have lived here for over six years now. It is only fair that I share some of the knowledge that I have accumulated. First of all, learn a little Spanish. A very few words will take you a long way. Second of all, if you know no Spanish (and even if you do) be respectful and polite. The Table Dance Clubs that advertise on billboards, etc. are to be avoided. They are overpriced rip off joints. Most of the girls there claim to be from other countries, they feel that this makes them more exotic and therefore they can charge outrageous prices. The truth is that 90% of them are Mexicanas, beautiful none the less.

Stay away from Juniors. He employs more guys than girls. Unless you are gay or enjoy being cheated, avoid this place and any others where they employ as many "suits" as girls. There are at LEAST 50 table dance bars in the area.
Only five or so have ever gotten any press here. Ask your cab driver to take you someplace where the Mexicans go. If you are driving, just keep your eyes open. This goes for esteticas masculino as well. There are probably even more of these. Quality is always a consideration, if you don't see one you like, walk away. Anything over 1000 pesos is a waste of money.

The area around the Plaza del Sol shopping mall is famous for transvestites. Late in the evening, that is. Stay away unless you are so inclined.

There are many medium sized bar/nightclubs where non-pro girls can be met.
Ask your cabbie and keep you eyes open. Also, don't bother going before 10PM, they stay open until 3-4AM. You will be suprised at how many speak English, even if only on a limited basis. Ask them to dance, then offer to buy them a drink. You will seldom be turned down.

Good luck and have fun!!

TeddyBoy
12-12-07, 00:12
Guadalajara Don

Welcome to ISG. Your knowledge and expertise are most valued here amigo.

Regarding your statement "There are many medium sized bar/nightclubs where non-pro girls can be met." it would be much appreciated if you could be a little more specific.

As you can see from recent Guadalajara posts there are numerous places that are not so good.

I will be in the Guadalajara area during January and February and as a newbee to that city any additional information would be great.

Loco1234
12-16-07, 09:56
I am a gringo that has been living in Puerto Vallarta for several years. Link most gringos with a dream to Move to PV , I just could not take the heat in the summer any more.

I lived in GDL before and the climate was way more tolerable , except for the floods that seem to happen on summer nights. The other horrible thing was the NOISE. I mean traffic, music, you name it. It takes a lot of getting used to.

GDL is full of fun gals to "do". Perhaps I can post some adventures here and if any of you are on your way down, and want to look me up, that just may work out.

If there are any spots you might like me to check out the current scene I may be able to do that as well. Not that I want to spend frivolously mind you, so lets keep it to a minimum, or I suppose you could cover my expenses!

Will be in touch!

Aggie Rod
12-21-07, 10:43
Hola Loco. I have been told on numerous occasions that GDL has some of the prettiest "gueritas" in all of mexico. I will be going down within the next month. Please keep in touch. Via PM

Coahuila
12-24-07, 07:30
ok, i live close to guad and have lived here for 4 years. i am going to give you a quick breakdown of the scene. and will follow this up in a few weeks with more detail.

there are several different ways to get sex in guadalajara.

1. streets and motels:

there are several areas where there are some sws and many situated in the doors of shitty hotels waiting for customers. these are the lowest grade of girls, although the quality really varies. hotties are either really new, really druggged up, or too young to work anywhere else. the hotels are located in the area around the san juan de dios market, on the streets of hidalgo, gigantes, 5 de mayo and independencia to name a few. some hotels have more action during the day, others at night, some all the time. girls range from 3. 8, though most are below 6. the average going cost is about $200 pesos ($19 usd) for about 20 minutes hotel included. this should be fully nude, although a hottie may receive up to $300 pesos ($28 usd) for full service nude. don't expect anything over half an hour, unless you are a good negotiator. another area with higher quality chicas are a few houses on the streets 50, 52, 54, near where they intersect with gigantes or with obregon. there you will find better quality chicas for about $350 pesos for full service or $450 pesos for full service nude. careful there are a lot of tvs in this area, but one of the houses (on 52, between gigantes and 12 de octubre) have numerous chicks between 20 and 24 that look like they are 16. i would like to point out this area is kind of ghetto, and cops will try to bribe you out of money, or at least they do it to the mexicans.

2. esteticas/ casas de citas:

esteticas are male massage parlors. some of them are actually just houses meant for fucking, and thus referred to as casas de citas. in guadalajara, the difference is very blurry, and they are basically the same thing. the prices vary, from $250 pesos ($23 usd) to $1, 300 pesos ($120 usd). the difference is as you go up in price, the installations get better, and the girls get skinnier and above all whiter. the service is apparently pretty good in all of them if you pick the right girls. of course, some aren't great. there are about 50 of these in guad, and i will post a list with addresses or phone numbers in the future. in general, service includes a massage, a bj and 1 sex act. extra acts or anal can be extra, or included if the girl likes you. these esteticas are all over town, so when i post the list you can find the closest to where you are. some of them are high class, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), monsieur, aristos, alexander, alcala, mediteraneo, luigi's, gaby's, arlette's, montecristo, cassanova, but those are just a few of many. one thing important to remember when walking into one of these, make sure to get the terms of the service at the beginning. then, make sure they show you all the girls. the amount can vary from 2 to 20. when you see them all make your pick. if you don't like any of them, bail. they are used to it.

3. escorts:

the escort business in guad is huge, but there is a lot of bullshit to be weeded through. most escort agencies will anounce themselves in the web (www.seductoras.com. mx, www.vivastreet.com. mx, www.divas.com. mx) among others, in newspapers (such as esto) or on cards that they pass out at traffic lights. the common rip off is that they will send you some chick that is totally different than what you expected, over priced, and that will give you a bad service. however, there are good agencies and also independents that i will post in the future. in general, escorts of decent appearance will charge between $700 pesos ($65 usd) and $1000 ($90 usd) per hour. some will come to your home and office, all will come to a hotel. the price may or may not include the taxi to get there. it is common they will ask you for up to $200 pesos extra for the taxi. never give them more than that. if the girl that shows up is not what you want, send her back, and don't give her anything more than the taxi, and that only if you are feeling generous. most of the agencies are bullshit, but there are some that send good material. futhermore, there are some people that act as agencies for independents that reliably send good material. those numbers coming soon.

4. strip clubs:

in strip clubs in guadalajara the girls may or may not be prostitutes. i would venture a guess that 90% are, depending on the price. surprisingly, considering the quality of girls, strip clubs can be pretty expensive. this is because you have to pay the girls and the club to fuck them. the cheapest i have heard of is around $600 pesos ($55 usd) for fs in the boom boom to over $3000 pesos ($280 usd) in some of the other clubs. personally, i stay away from these places, unless i am looking to get phone numbers for girls to meet up later outside on their own. that being said, some people have fun at them. apparently strip clubs that can have good deals are titanic blue, nuevo galeon, lipstick, boom boom, teatro lirico. some of them are ghetto, but that is good for price. clubs apparently to stay away from are kaos, golden club, candi's, and several others. they are too expensive for what you get. at titanic blue you can apparently get action inviting a girl upstairs when you buy her a bucket of beer (approx. $40 usd). at least you will get to know her name and her pussy.

ok, that's it for now. i promise i will post in the future with more details. long live international sex guide. thank you for being free and informative!

cheers,

coahuila

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Coahuila
12-24-07, 07:40
Supposedly, there is no mongering around here. I have lived here for a year and even the locals tell me that. Well, it is not true... you just have to know the tricks. Apparently there are several cantinas (bars which have chicks that will fuck for $$$ on the weekends). At this point I have found the following:

Jocotepec - at least 1
Ajijic - at least 1
San Antonio - 0
Riberas del Pilar - 2
Chapala - 3
areas within 15 min of Chapala - 3

I have not really tried out any of these but will this week. If anyone is lakeside and interested please post and I will give more details.

Cheers,

Coahuila

Coahuila
12-24-07, 15:28
so here goes again. btw this is a reminder that everyone should copy long reports to the clipboard. i did, luckily.

here goes.

ok, i live close to guad and have lived here for 4 years. i am going to give you a quick breakdown of the scene. and will follow this up in a few weeks with more detail.

there are several different ways to get sex in guadalajara.

1. streets and motels:

there are several areas where there are some sws and many situated in the doors of shitty hotels waiting for customers. these are the lowest grade of girls, although the quality really varies. hotties are either really new, really druggged up, or too young to work anywhere else. the hotels are located in the area around the san juan de dios market, on the streets of hidalgo, gigantes, 5 de mayo and independencia to name a few. some hotels have more action during the day, others at night, some all the time. girls range from 3. 8, though most are below 6. the average going cost is about $200 pesos ($19 usd) for about 20 minutes hotel included. this should be fully nude, although a hottie may receive up to $300 pesos ($28 usd) for full service nude. don't expect anything over half an hour, unless you are a good negotiator. another area with higher quality chicas are a few houses on the streets 50, 52, 54, near where they intersect with gigantes or with obregon. there you will find better quality chicas for about $350 pesos for full service or $450 pesos for full service nude. careful there are a lot of tvs in this area, but one of the houses (on 52, between gigantes and 12 de octubre) have numerous chicks between 20 and 24 that look like they are 16. i would like to point out this area is kind of ghetto, and cops will try to bribe you out of money, or at least they do it to the mexicans.

2. esteticas/ casas de citas:

esteticas are male massage parlors. some of them are actually just houses meant for fucking, and thus referred to as casas de citas. in guadalajara, the difference is very blurry, and they are basically the same thing. the prices vary, from $250 pesos ($23 usd) to $1, 300 pesos ($120 usd). the difference is as you go up in price, the installations get better, and the girls get skinnier and above all whiter. the service is apparently pretty good in all of them if you pick the right girls. of course, some aren't great. there are about 50 of these in guad, and i will post a list with addresses or phone numbers in the future. in general, service includes a massage, a bj and 1 sex act. extra acts or anal can be extra, or included if the girl likes you. these esteticas are all over town, so when i post the list you can find the closest to where you are. some of them are high class, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), monsieur, aristos, alexander, alcala, mediteraneo, luigi's, gaby's, arlette's, montecristo, cassanova, but those are just a few of many. one thing important to remember when walking into one of these, make sure to get the terms of the service at the beginning. then, make sure they show you all the girls. the amount can vary from 2 to 20. when you see them all make your pick. if you don't like any of them, bail. they are used to it.

3. escorts:

the escort business in guad is huge, but there is a lot of bullshit to be weeded through. most escort agencies will anounce themselves in the web (www.seductoras.com. mx, www.vivastreet.com. mx, www.divas.com. mx) among others, in newspapers (such as esto) or on cards that they pass out at traffic lights. the common rip off is that they will send you some chick that is totally different than what you expected, over priced, and that will give you a bad service. however, there are good agencies and also independents that i will post in the future. in general, escorts of decent appearance will charge between $700 pesos ($65 usd) and $1000 ($90 usd) per hour. some will come to your home and office, all will come to a hotel. the price may or may not include the taxi to get there. it is common they will ask you for up to $200 pesos extra for the taxi. never give them more than that. if the girl that shows up is not what you want, send her back, and don't give her anything more than the taxi, and that only if you are feeling generous. most of the agencies are bullshit, but there are some that send good material. futhermore, there are some people that act as agencies for independents that reliably send good material. those numbers coming soon.

4. strip clubs:

in strip clubs in guadalajara the girls may or may not be prostitutes. i would venture a guess that 90% are, depending on the price. surprisingly, considering the quality of girls, strip clubs can be pretty expensive. this is because you have to pay the girls and the club to fuck them. the cheapest i have heard of is around $600 pesos ($55 usd) for fs in the boom boom to over $3000 pesos ($280 usd) in some of the other clubs. personally, i stay away from these places, unless i am looking to get phone numbers for girls to meet up later outside on their own. that being said, some people have fun at them. apparently strip clubs that can have good deals are titanic blue, nuevo galeon, lipstick, boom boom, teatro lirico. some of them are ghetto, but that is good for price. clubs apparently to stay away from are kaos, golden club, candi's, and several others. they are too expensive for what you get. at titanic blue you can apparently get action inviting a girl upstairs when you buy her a bucket of beer (approx. $40 usd). at least you will get to know her name and her pussy.

ok, that's it for now. i promise i will post in the future with more details. long live international sex guide. thank you for being free and informative!

cheers,

coahuila

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Mr North
12-26-07, 21:04
I enjoyed your posts Coahuila.

I've been lakeside for the past week, and am around for a few more.

The lake is quite different from my last visit here (8 years ago) and I've been trying to follow your posts, poke around and find some pooning spots.

Because its Christmas, lots of things seem to be closed. I did find David's Bar (1/2 way between Ajijic and Chapala) to have a few ladies (5-ish), but the language is a barrier. Now that Christmas is out of the way, I'm hopeful that a few more cantina's will open up (and you'll share some more of your valuable experience).

Perhaps you've be interested in meeting up for a beer and trading notes?

Cheers,

Mr. North

Tiny 12
12-26-07, 22:41
Nice report Coahuila -- looking forward to your follow ups.

Coahuila
12-29-07, 02:41
I wouldn't mind meeting up with you. Not sure how we can do it though, I can't post email addys. Maybe phone numbers? Mine is a cell [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]. Please be discreet when calling though. Ask for Chris and say it is regarding the forum.

Saludos,

Coahuila

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Coahuila
12-29-07, 13:01
OK, here is what I know.

Starting from the east:

Jocotepec:

Apparently there are two spots for mongering. Probably a few more, but I don't know them yet.

1. Chivis Bar - This place is a typical mexican pueblo strip club. I have been there two times, and there is nothing worth speaking about. 4 - 8 girls, fat and ugly, that will fuck for between $20 and $40 USD. Supposedly there are hotter chicks on Saturday, but I have not been. I doubt that it is worth it.

2. Supposedly there is a second bar on the highway that goes from Jiquilpan to Guadalajara, right in Jocotepec. I have looked for it but I have not found it. Didn't look too hard. Supposedly there is at least one girl about 35 yo that is worth the trip. If you find it let me know.

San Juan Cosala:

This place used to have strip clubs, but apparently they were all closed down. One thing is for sure, it has nice girls, especially if you like indias. Still looking for some mongering around there.

Ajijic:

I know of one place, that definitely has hookers, but they are not too hot. I have seen a hot girl or two out front, but all the times I have gone in (a total of three) they have not been there. These girls will definitely fuck for money. However, I think you have to be lucky or horny to find something useful there. This place is about half way between Ajijic and San Juan Cosala, heading west. You will pass la Canacinta, La Cristina, and then it will be on the north side of the highway next to a big tree. It isn't always open, but when it is it's usually open between 6 PM - 1 AM mas o menos.

There are several "billardes" (pool halls) in the western part of Ajijic, the area know as Seis Izquinas, that may have working girls. Check it out... I have once, but didn't see much worth it.

San Antonio:

Nothing of interest except for some possible independents. I am working on getting in contact with those and will post if I do.

Riberas del Pilar:

There are two bars...

1. David's Sport's Bar, located halfway between Chapala and Ajijic, on the northern side. Normally 5 girls work there. 2 are fat and ugly. 1 is moderate and ugly. 1 is fat but with a cute face. The last 1 is cute and skinny, if you like indian girls. The price apparently is $20 USD to take them away from the bar, and the rest you negotiate with the girl. Shouldn't be more than $20 USD for FS. Haven't scored with the hot one yet (wouldn't with the rest) but I will let you know.

2. Bar Kru, located a bit closer to Ajijic on the southern side, apparently has working girls sometimes. That's all I know at this point, I have never gone in.

Chapala:

Chapala may have a few options, not sure how many. Here are a few to check.

1. Bar Lobos, located on the same street as the one you come in from from Ajijic, just past the traffic light. Supposedly there are girls that will "hook" if they like you on Saturdays and Fridays. I went today and didn't see shit. Not sure how good this is.

2. Bar Roy's, just across from Lobos, seemed to have two ugly light skinned hookers on a thursday some weeks ago. Haven't been since. Not sure if it is good or not.

3. Bar Checos, on the main strip in Chapala about halfway on the west side, definitely has some working girls some nights. Definitely not dependable, and only once did I see a girl I would actually do, even drunk.

4. Cañejos, or something like that. No idea where it is or what's up. Apparently it has girls sometimes. But I have neither seen it nor been able to verify.

5. There are two other Cantinas, Gato 13 and another one that I forget the name, which probably have some ugly girls working sometimes. However, I have not verified it.

In final, there are three bars where you will definitely find working girls in Lakeside. Those are Chivis in Jocotepec, the nameless ones west of Ajijic, and the David's Sports Bar (known to the locals as La Puerta Negra) in Riberas Del Pilar. I have only seen one girl in the three of them that I would fuck without them paying me.

Saludos,

Coahuila

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Strike 69
12-30-07, 01:09
what was said about guadalajara is not true. you just have to know the scene.

please see my new post about guad in the guad forum.

thanks,

coahuila

ps - i just had sex with two girls that "looked like" 15 years old in guad yesterday for $35 usd. i won't say their real ages but you get the point.

cheers!i'm telling you the truth, i've lived in gdl for some years therefore i know the scene quite well and due a hypocrital double moral attitude of the guadalajaran population it's the worst city i have ever seen to monger in north america which is too bad because the tapatias are some of the most beautiful women i've seen in mexico (also the girl's trend is to judge you according to how much worthy are you in front of their eye$$$$$)

for example recently the provider of working girls for politicians, businessmen and drug dealers known as the "cow" (la vaca) was caught alongside with the "procurador" (one of the most radical "puritanos" of the political party pan who attacks prostitution in a constant basis) in a sex party with middle school girls (chicas de secundaria in spanish) the avarage age of middle school chicks in mexico is from 12 to 15 years old.

guadalajara cannot match monterrey in strip clubs (there are more than 60 tabla dances there according to the "ayuntamiento") and in some clubs you can have full service with porn-star looking girls for 20 to 30 usd and in the high end clubs (amnesia, premier, prestige, obsession) prices are ridiculous cheap compared with the outrageous prices i saw in the high end clubs in guadalajara such as the men's club or the golden club ....also the quantity and quality of girls in monterrey's strip clubs are so much better. not even the candys ( a middle end club in gdl ) can match a mty or df club.... in mexico city the solid gold is a dream cum true. in gdl strip clubs not all girls are prostitutes so you only get horny inside the club but you cannot have sex with them and that really sucks in mty for instance all table dances are full service clubs. the kaos, the lipsticks, the ramses, the juniors they all were places to avoid in gdl as far i can remember.

and regarding escorts guadalajara simply cannot match mexico city.... mexico city along montreal are two best escorts spots in north america.

in guadalajara the majority of the agencies are bait and switch (gato por liebre) the royal prestigue, the new york escort, modelos galilea etc etc .... the one that has (sometimes) good girls was the royal prestige along with javier (the name of his agency was "rubias and morenas" the time i was there) even that the monterrey escort escene is not as big as the df, monterrey has better escort options than gdl.... bomboncitas regias or misses (incall and outcall services) absolutly kick ass and you will receive no bait and switch or get scammed when ordering a girl and that's type of service that i could find in guadalajara's agencies. in gdl there's a common phrase of the agencies owners: "caliente mija no te regresa", which means something like:" if he's horny he will not return you" and based on that statament some providers promises hot women and send instead ugly ones the type of girls that should pay customers in order to be fucked by them.
in gdl if you want to find decent escort the best option is to check the divas pagas of mexico city and see which girls are currently available in guanatos.

regarding incalls in guadalajara there was the jet set (i think it was closed by those mochos) the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), the luigi's, the nefertiti (the place it's closed now i think) and at last but not least the eduards. in those guadalajaran esteticas the quality of the girls were from irregular to bad, the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) had the most decent looking girls but you couldn't find any knock out either. in monterrey there are the: marcella (30-50 usd for full service with a hot [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)), the faraonas, the astrid, the misses (the best in incalls in mty, knock out's and bomb shells type girls available there), the romanos, the signore, the florecitas, the modelos monterrey etc, etc, in mexico city there are the extreme sport spa, the first shout with high quality girls at good prices.........
the esteticas in gdl cannot match the saunas in scotland or the quality of the massage parlors in sao paulo, because in gdl sadly no one cares about the sexual needs of the men there.

so basically guadalajara has it all to be a major monger paradise in mexico (very beautiful girls, nice weather... excluding the floods) but sadly due a hypocrital double moral behavior and pseudo puritanism present in the guadalajaran population the local sex market it's very poor and it's really dissapointing to experimented mongers so yes is a wasteland when it comes to the sex market.

and for non pros in gdl (tapatias) the best aphrodisiac that makes them instantly horny is money, for example a lot of them seem to think that your car is an extension of your penis, so better the car you have better the quality of girls you can enjoy, so they will judge you based on your car, the type of clothes you wear, how much money you have in your bank accounts, where do you live, who's your family, what career do you have etc, etc, etc and for some unknown reason inside mexico the materialism trend presented in the guadalaran girls is the highest i ever seen within the country.

one day i did an experiment with a couple of chicks there, they never ever spoke to me (i'm not ugly neither uneducated) they never ever talked to me not even a "buenos dias". it's important to note that i was wearing casual clothes nothing fancy the majority of the times that i saw them, but someday i was wearing a fancy suit (due a work presentation) and i was driving an audi of a friend, and .............oh my gosh!!! it was like magic, when those girls that never said "hi" or "good morning" saw me, they almost run to where i was and said "hi" and they tried to get inside the car and kissed me in the chicks..... then i thought what the fuck?? they never ever talked to me in the past and now because i have those clothes and this fancy car they are now here talking to me, offering themselves spreading theirs legs and getting wet at the same time.

if you think that guadalajara is a monger paradise go to mexico city, monterrey (inside mexico) or to montreal, rio de janairo, sao paulo, buenos aires, caracas, bogota, scotland, germany (fkk clubs), london, prague, denmark, madrid, barcelona or thailand just to mencion a few more options to see what a true sex paradise looks like. feel free to ask me for information regarding these places (i speak spanish).

Mr North
12-30-07, 04:36
Coahuila. You are a rock star. Your contributions to this forum are truly appreciated.

Things Lakeside over the X-mas holidays have been very slowwww.a few years ago I was able to hook up with a visiting tourist and a local, while caging some of the local bars, but this year it seems very slow and dry. So I've been venturing out in search of other pursuits.

Despite the numerous warnings about Juniors, I ventured down from the lake to check it out on a Thursday. When I walked in around 11pm, I was customer #1, but decided to have a beer anyway. There were around 8 girls, but a few tables of locals started drifting in. The dancers on the stage started shortly after my arrival. I decided to pay for my beers as I drank (and avoid any credit card hassles), but even then, the waiter tried to trick me into demanding money for beers that I paid for much earlier. As mentioned by others, don't expect change from anything you give out. Otherwise, I wasn't really hassled by the waiters, they mostly left me alone, and the ratio of M/W was fine, despite earlier posts on the contrary.

I eyeballed a very slim and tight 20-something (7-ish), and she joined me for a beer. She didn't stop grinding me the whole time, flipping over and rubbing against me front and back. Language was a barrier, but we had a few laughs. I sent her away so that I could enjoy a cigar and try and let my eyes see what other talent was available. The answer being not much.

Later, I called her back and the waiter got involved and led us to a room behind the back wall. Their first offer was 1500 for 1/2 hour with room. I offered 1800 for the hour, with 2 beers thrown in. The waiter wouldn't come down from 2400, so I walked. I was quiet surprised that the waiter didn't come back to me and try and counter-offer, while I was finishing my beer to leave. I did get the girls' digits, so there could be some fun times ahead.

Last night I decided to venture to Chivas, as described by Coahuila. In a word. Its rough. 10 women, but the majority have obviously hit every branch on the way down their fall off the ugly tree. Surprisingly, everyone in the place left me along to enjoy my cigar. After I'd had a few beers, one girl (who appeared to be a 5-ish), caught my eye, but she took a while to leave a table full of locals. Nice enough girl, and we went to her room beside the bar. 500. She was a bit mechanical at first, but after I made her cum, she let her hair down and gave a passible GFE.

I'll stop by the Music Box at 10 pm on Sunday (30th) night to have a beer, so if you're in the neighborhood Coahuila, stop by and I'll buy you a cold one. I'll be the only gringo in the place. And yes, my OTHER middle name is discretion.

Cheers,

Mr. North

OldGuy
01-02-08, 02:01
I'm about to make my first mongering visit to GDL, and, in preparation, I've been doing some work beyond reading this thread. I found the following link:

http://guadalajara.vivastreet.com.mx/escorts-masajistas+guadalajara-y-area-met

which appears to be similar to Craigs List. (Note: it works for all over Mexico, and for a range of products and services, but the link I've posted is specifically for erotic ads for GDL). There SEEM to be a lot of independent girls advertising on the site. I'm sure that switch and bait is an issue, but has anyone had experience with the site? I would say that the site is only useful if you're pretty conversant in Spanish. On the other hand, there are ladies advertising in it for $400 pesos per hour and up, which sure beats the strip joints.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Hunkrah
01-02-08, 04:13
Greetings Gentlemen,

Thanks for all of your great posts! I live in Asia, but will be travelling to Guad next week for a conference. I'm arriving at my hotel at aroun 9pm on the 7th.

Would love to tap some sweetness, but quality is a must, and I don't speak much Spanish. Generally, I like freelancers, but also love the gogo bar scene in Asia.

Any suggestions? I like the idea of Calle 52 that Coahuila was talking about, but not sure how to get there and have safety concerns.

Beers on me for a guided tour of the dark side!

Hunkrah
01-02-08, 04:36
Greetings gentlemen!

I'm coming to GDL for the first time next week and am very interested in finding some good sweet young action. But. I've never been there before, and don't really know the best way to find quality quickly.

I read the mention of Calle 52 with interest, but am not sure where it is, how to get there, or safety.

I arrive on the 7th, and should be at my hotel by 9pm. Any suggestions for where to go, what to do? Plaza Del Sol is right near the hotel. Is it worth it for some nice freelance action?

Insights/suggestions appreciated! Beer is on me if anyhone wants to volunteer to be my tour guide.

Tiny 12
01-02-08, 21:04
excellent report strike, that should be read by anyone thinking about making a trip to gdl just for the mongering or chasing nonpros. although i've met some gems, many of the women are indeed materialistic and superficial. i've driven around town in a tsuru, mercedes, and rent cars and you're right, you get so much attention from women when you're in a nice car, and it's not because you're a gringo. when you meet a tapatia, what comes out of your mouth doesn't make a whole lot of difference, unless she surmises from what you say that you're rich. what's important is your watch, your shoes, your nails, and your clothes.

i have encountered some stunners in the esteticas in years past, but my last two trips to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) didn't turn up anything better than a 7. also, the higher end stripper clubs, like kaos, ramses, golden, can be fun if you don't get turned off by the high pressure sales tactics. you can set up something at a reasonable price for the next day with some of the more ordinary looking women without spending an arm and a leg. i have had sex with stunners from the clubs, but it wasn't cheap. and agreed, not all will do the deed.

Strike 69
01-03-08, 00:43
excellent report strike, that should be read by anyone thinking about making a trip to gdl just for the mongering or chasing nonpros. although i've met some gems, many of the women are indeed materialistic and superficial. i've driven around town in a tsuru, mercedes, and rent cars and you're right, you get so much attention from women when you're in a nice car, and it's not because you're a gringo. when you meet a tapatia, what comes out of your mouth doesn't make a whole lot of difference, unless she surmises from what you say that you're rich. what's important is your watch, your shoes, your nails, and your clothes.

i have encountered some stunners in the esteticas in years past, but my last two trips to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) didn't turn up anything better than a 7. also, the higher end stripper clubs, like kaos, ramses, golden, can be fun if you don't get turned off by the high pressure sales tactics. you can set up something at a reasonable price for the next day with some of the more ordinary looking women without spending an arm and a leg. i have had sex with stunners from the clubs, but it wasn't cheap. and agreed, not all will do the deed.

thank you tiny 12, you are absolutly right. i remember when i was there some guys told me that they were considering other options for example to "import" girls from russia (or any other former soviet republic) in order to get marry because they were sick of the superficial and materialistic tapatias. some guys eventually just gave up on guadalajaran women because marriage for many of them is only an economic and social arrangement in which they have kids at the horrible cost of having a man around. this type attitude is very common in specially in large cities like guadalajara if you don't have a fancy car, clothes, and tons of money you can forget having a girl there (either pretty or not) but if you are rich no matter how trashy, ugly or uneducated you are because you will have dozens and dozens of girls chasing you and if by mistake you run out of money the girls will dump you like an old shoe.

i remember for example a co worker of mine he was a 45 year old man and his lover was a beautiful 18 year old guadalajaran blonde with the biggest tits i saw in a non pro there, she was with him obviously because he was a considerable wealthy man. i also knew that that girl offered guys money (money coming from his 45 y.o. lover) or allowed the guys to touch and suck her big tities in exchange for doing her college homeworks because she studied in prestigeous private college there and needed to obtain good notes. when i was in guadalajara i didn't like that even though it's a big city the local sex market it's small and don't have many options available in contrast with other large mexican cities like the df (mexico city) or monterrey for example.

the prices that i saw in gdl high end clubs (golden club, the mens) are absolutly outrageous. in high end clubs in monterrey (amnesia,prestige, obsession) prices are cheaper (even though they are expensive by local standards) and the quality and quantity of girls are also so much better. in some low end mp you can find some jewels and have full service for 500 pesos like in the infamous marcella (www.pompis.com.mx) and some mid to low end strip clubs like the one called "el infinito" you can have porn-star looking girls for 300 pesos. and in mexico city you have the largest (and the best) escort market in the country (and the best strip clubs also), so you definitive have more options available.

feel free to ask me about mexico city or monterrey (i'm an expert in massage parlors and escorts there despite i'm not an expert in strip clubs but i can introduce you to some nice fellas in the mty sections who are experts in the strip club area there)

OldGuy
01-03-08, 22:41
I'm going to be spending the next two weeks mostly in a hotel in GDL very near the Centro Magno on Avenida Vallarta. Are any of the recommended esteticas nearby?

Thanks--reports to follow

Tiny 12
01-04-08, 17:57
oldguy,

select, eduardo's and monsieur are within walking distance. of those three, select is the closest, and eduardo's is the best known. i think happy hunting posted some photos from monsieur. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and high class are a short cab ride away.

Tiny 12
01-04-08, 18:17
hunkrah, unfortunately, strike 69 in his recent posts is spot on when it comes to action in guadalajara -- it's there, but not worth writing home about.

it sounds like coahuila found something interesting on calle 52. but in general if you're looking for quality, forget about the street wh*res who hang out in front of cheap hotels. i've never found one who's attractive and also gave good service.

there aren't any freelancer bars that i'm aware of. yeah, you might find a few hanging around in bars, but there's nothing that remotely compares to something like cm2, nana hotel disco or cafe la from your neck of the woods.

your best bet is the esteticas. there are a number about 15 minutes (in taxi) from plaza del sol, including ones listed in my post just below to old guy. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) would be a good one-- it's convenient to your location, and better quality than most. gfe is a little harder to come by there though.

i enjoy the strip clubs too, but they're not for everyone, and you can spend a lot of money in a hurry in some of the higher priced clubs if you're not careful. some people have had decent luck with escorts, which is something i've never investigated. read the thread.

Coahuila
01-04-08, 23:39
Thank you Tiny 12, you are absolutly right. I remember when I was there some guys told me that they were considering other options for example to "import" girls from Russia (or any other Former Soviet Republic) in order to get marry because they were sick of the superficial and materialistic Tapatias. Some guys eventually just gave up on Guadalajaran women because marriage for many of them is only an economic and social arrangement in which they have kids at the horrible cost of having a man around. This type attitude is very common in specially in large cities like Guadalajara if you don't have a fancy car, clothes, and tons of money you can forget having a girl there (either pretty or not) but if you are rich no matter how trashy, ugly or uneducated you are because you will have dozens and dozens of girls chasing you and if by mistake you run out of money the girls will dump you like an old shoe.

I remember for example a co worker of mine he was a 45 year old man and his lover was a beautiful 18 year old Guadalajaran blonde with the biggest tits I saw in a non pro there, she was with him obviously because he was a considerable wealthy man. I also knew that that girl offered guys money (money coming from his 45 y.o. lover) or allowed the guys to touch and suck her big tities in exchange for doing her college homeworks because she studied in prestigeous private college there and needed to obtain good notes. When I was in Guadalajara I didn't like that even though it's a big city the local sex market it's small and don't have many options available in contrast with other large Mexican cities like the DF (Mexico City) or Monterrey for example.

The prices that I saw in GDL high end clubs (Golden Club, the Mens) are absolutly outrageous. In high end clubs in Monterrey (Amnesia,Prestige, Obsession) prices are cheaper (even though they are expensive by local standards) and the quality and quantity of girls are also so much better. In some low end MP you can find some jewels and have full service for 500 pesos like in the infamous marcella (www.pompis.com.mx) and some mid to low end strip clubs like the one called "El infinito" you can have porn-star looking girls for 300 pesos. And in Mexico City you have the largest (and the best) escort market in the country (and the best strip clubs also), so you definitive have more options available.

Feel free to ask me about Mexico City or Monterrey (I'm an expert in massage parlors and escorts there despite I'm not an expert in strip clubs but I can introduce you to some nice fellas in the Mty sections who are experts in the strip club area there)Strike 69, with all due respect, you are seriously mistaken about Guadalajara. I am 25 years old, white, and I have lived here for 3 years. I am pretty damn broke (especially for North American or Tapatio standards) though I make enough to live and have fun. I have a very attractive tapatia girlfriend, and several more girls in tow that would like the opportunity. None of them are after money, as I neither have it nor pretend that I do. I have had various other girlfriends from the area, with similar experiences. Although there DEFINITELY are gold diggers in Guadalajara, there are just as many in DF and more in Monterrey. Furthermore, any good looking 18 yo dating a 45 year old "wealthy" man, is a gold digger, whether in Guadalajara, Los Angeles or China.

Sorry you had bad experiences here in Guad, but let me tell you with all honesty that you just missed the ball. My buddy just screwed a true stunner, let's just say she was 18 but looked 16, for $200 pesos (yes, pesos). Oh and he got two pops.

Saludos,

Coahuila

Coahuila
01-04-08, 23:44
Here's a little tip from you that was passed on to me from my Mexican buddies that are into mongering. There is a little casa de citas on the street called Leñadores between Avenida Mexico and Avenida Vallarta. The street is tiny, only 1 block long, so you will either need a taxista that knows the are or a good map. It is within walking distance of Centro Magno.

This little Casa de Citas has older women (35 - 45) working in it, that supposedly give an exceptional service (some of them anyway). Cost should be between $300 and $600 pesos. Don't you dare pay more as you fuck it up for the rest of us gringos.

Once you are on the street, Leñadores, about halfway down you'll see an apartment on the lower story with a bunch of advertisements pasted to the door advertising lots and houses for sale. This is a cover up, knock and the door and a girl will open and let you in. Ask to see all the girls. Biggest selection should be Thurs - Sat between 2 PM and 5 PM. I haven't gone in, so I can't confirm quality or service, but I'm sure about the price and I can also confirm location as I have driven past it.

Good luck, and post a report.

Saludos,

Coahuila

PS - These girls won't be gold diggers either. LOL!

Coahuila
01-04-08, 23:47
I just want to make sure you guys realize something. Calle 52 is in the Ghetto, and the installations in the places I mentioned are VERY GHETTO. Think the shitty hotels in the Zona Norte of Tijuana. The girls of high quality (why I don't know, maybe under 18?) but the place is ghetto and this is not where a gringo wants to be caught alone at night. Take a taxi and have him wait, or better yet, arrange to go with a Mexican in a NOT TOO FLASHY car if you can.

Also, another tip from a friend that's a stripper, Lipstick on Independencia has various girls working there that are apparently not 18. That's why they look so young. You may want to check it out if you are into that kind of thing, but remember, sleeping with them is wrong and illegal.

Saludos,

Coahuila

Strike 69
01-05-08, 08:29
Strike 69, with all due respect, you are seriously mistaken about Guadalajara. I am 25 years old, white, and I have lived here for 3 years. I am pretty damn broke (especially for North American or Tapatio standards) though I make enough to live and have fun. I have a very attractive tapatia girlfriend, and several more girls in tow that would like the opportunity. None of them are after money, as I neither have it nor pretend that I do. I have had various other girlfriends from the area, with similar experiences. Although there DEFINITELY are gold diggers in Guadalajara, there are just as many in DF and more in Monterrey. Furthermore, any good looking 18 yo dating a 45 year old "wealthy" man, is a gold digger, whether in Guadalajara, Los Angeles or China.

Sorry you had bad experiences here in Guad, but let me tell you with all honesty that you just missed the ball. My buddy just screwed a true stunner, let's just say she was 18 but looked 16, for $200 pesos (yes, pesos). Oh and he got two pops.

Saludos,

Coahuila

For the response I saw in your post you have assimilated quite well into the Tapatian culture. You have lived only for 3 years in GDL and you think you know already the Tapatian's costumes and way of life...... knock knock let me tell you something I was there for 10 years (I have Mexican citizenship by the way), and I can tell you are increideble naive because you think that those Tapatias want a chance with you without having a "hidden interest" (mainly economic)?? I wish you good luck really because in general with some exceptions the trend in Guadalajara passed along from mothers to daughters is to educate them to be with a man and try to catch him only if they can get something good in exchange whether is economic benefits, political or social status or other kind of "benefits". You think that they want a chance with you only because they like you?? That's what you think ....If you were in any other part of Mexico I could say yes you are right but not in Guadalajara dude. I hope you don't regreat those words in the future when your female friends find another dude of whom they can obtain better benefits (whether economic, social or political ). Just look at the malls, the majority of the girls dress and walk like they are in a fashion parade ...some are just like a bait waiting to catch a fish, some others are just acting cocky about their economic status..... in Mexico I have seen that kind of attitude only in Guadalajara. Just look in the "womens' studies" section of a large bookstore in the Guadalajaran's schools. Read a little from some of the books you find. The attitudes are amazing; it is a wonder that marriage even exists here anymore. Marriage is viewed something like a business arrangement, or some sort of deal whereby the Tapatian Women gets to have children at the horrible cost of having a man around.

You are white?? so what?? so I am??? You can have full service for 200 pesos in some places in GDL?? so what??? in Mexico City and Monterrey you can have it for 100 or even 50 pesos in some places.
To say that there are as many SP's in GDL as there are in Monterrey or Mexico City is absolutly ridiculous... for example Monterrey have more than 60 strip clubs full of chicks. How many in Guadalajara?? No more than 10 ... regarding high end clubs in GDL there are the Mens Club and the Golden Club only two in which having fun will cost you an arm and a leg in contrast in Monterrey there are the Amnesia, the Metropolis Premier, the Prestige, the Obsession, the Poisson and many others.
Mexico City has the largest and best escort market in Mexico meanwhile the escort scene in Guadalajara is unexistant if you run with luck you will find bait and switch tarjetas or agencies.

Any good looking 18 yo dating a 45 year old "wealthy" man, is not a gold digger, whether in Guadalajara, Los Angeles or China that is called a superficial, materialistic, double moral and frivolous woman. I forget to tell you that girl had several guys more or less their age but she ignored them all because they didn't have a cent to offer (she said that by the way) and at the same time she was at the church all the time pretending to be a religious person....how hypocrital but that's very common in Guadalajara of course.
Sex with Tapatias in general is extremely easy if you have the economic means (or at least if they think that you are rich) so in my personal experience I would say... If I have the chance to have sex with a starbucks blondie Tapatia maybe I'll do it... but I will never pick up a frivolous Tapatia for a serious relationship no way José........
I've talked with other people coming from other Mexicans states and other foreigners and many of them agreed that despite some exceptions from all of Mexico the Tapatias are the most frivolous and materialistic type of women within the country.

I suggest you to travel outside Guadalajara and outside Mexico to see other type of women so you can compere. Some Women in Eastern Europe are far so much prettier than Tapatias and less frivolous for example.

Tiny 12
01-05-08, 21:05
Coahuila, I haven't spent as much time in Guadalajara as you -- if you add it all up, maybe 9 months in the last 5 years. I've dated two women in Guadalajara that are as you described, though probably not as attractive -- really down to earth, good women that treated me well and weren't materialistic or superficial. Unfortunately, I guess I want the flashy hottie and am willing to put up with the B.S. sometimes to get her.

Anyway, as far as the average goes for very attractive women in Guadalajara, Strike is right, especially for those of us in our late 30's on up. I can go to Juarez or Panama City or just about any city in Colombia and get a ton more attention without having to come off like a rich playboy. I think the reason is because Guadalajara is more prosperous than most of the rest of Latin America, and it's reasonably safe -- if somebody has some money they can show it off without having to be shadowed by security, unlike, say, Mexico City or Bogota. Also, I agree with Strike about PFP. Only Mexico City, Cancun and Los Cabos are more expensive, in my experience. Everyplace else I've been in Latin America was cheaper, except I guess Buenos Aires before the devaluation.

I'm glad both you and Strike have started contributing to the Guadalajara board, and hope you'll continue to do so -- you know a lot more about the city than the rest of us that just pass in and out for business or vacation.


I am 25 years old, white, and I have lived here for 3 years. I am pretty damn broke (especially for North American or Tapatio standards) though I make enough to live and have fun. I have a very attractive tapatia girlfriend, and several more girls in tow that would like the opportunity. None of them are after money, as I neither have it nor pretend that I do.

OldGuy
01-06-08, 00:19
Well, on two hours of sleep after taking a redeye to GDL, I decided I wasn't up to the challenge of taking on an estetica just yet, so used the Internet site http://guadalajara.vivastreet.com.mx/escorts-masajistas+guadalajara-y-area-met that I discovered several weeks ago (pretty much a Craigs List kind of site.) I called Grecia, see pic from the site, who came over exactly on time, 90 minutes after I had called her. Her internet pic pretty much tells the story of the body. Her face was not a knockout, but she was quite attractive. 49 kilos, she says (and I believe), probably about 5' or 5' 1", and she looked about 17. She self reported as 20 and, despite a tight little body, she did show the signs of recent child birth (loose tummy, all else slim). Physically, I'd rate her an 8, and I was pretty pleased when she showed up. However, she had none of the charm I've come to associate with Argentine chicas, who I normally engage in 15 or 20 minutes of conversations before and after the action. Interesting, despite what I like in a body and face, I kinda felt like I was rolling around with the Mexican equivalent of a 17 year old idiot valley girl. BTW, she spoke no English, which is not an issue for me.

So, the experiment was half successful and half not. I did, in fact, get the girl in the picture. On the other hand, an inflatable doll would have had about as much personality. Maybe I'm too choosy, or I should start looking to the 26 to 30 year olds. We'll see where we go from here...

Dickhead
01-06-08, 00:56
Looks 17, self-reports 20 = prison if you are American and she is actually 17. Check ID! And read up on "rights of extraterritoriality." México ain't Argentina. Believe me, I know the difference.

OldGuy
01-06-08, 02:08
Looks 17, self-reports 20 = prison if you are American and she is actually 17. Check ID! And read up on "rights of extraterritoriality." México ain't Argentina. Believe me, I know the difference.
A good message to us all.

Mr North
01-06-08, 05:24
this week i travelled down from lake chapala to spend a few days in gdl (mid-week).

i stayed at the mission carlton, which is just on the edge of the central core. its a pretty standard 2-3 star, but its getting quite well worn. it was good being on the 12th floor, as it blocked much of the traffic noise, otherwise its an unremarkable hotel. there always seemed to be a few porters or front desk staff doing double duty as security. i didn't intend to invite anyone up to my room, so it wasn't an issue.

my first stop was across the street to med esteticas. 500 pesos for 1/2 hr, and i picked out a smiling, energetic girl who was a 6 (in my books). there were 5 girls to choose from (mostly 5's), and i was happy with the service for the price.

in the afternoon, i decided to try and find the 52 calle that coahuila spoke of. i have a car, and bought a detailed map from a gas station. coahuila mentioned that the house doesn't kick off till night, but knowing how poorly streets and houses are marked, i wanted to do a drive-by. i didn't have difficulty locating the cross streets, but could not find the exact house number. anyway, figuring that i was within a block, i planned to return later that evening.

next i ventured to find high class. i was surprised how much difficulty i had locating it. its on a busy road, and its not easy to loop around, because of heavy traffic and lack of places to pull off. i did find [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) (god i hate that name). i decided to go into [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), but reluctantly because i was so intent on finding hc. which i'm sure i must have driven past it a few times). anyway, at [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) i was led upstairs and it was explained that rates were 500 pesos for the room, and 700 for the girl for 45m. 1 hr. we reached a stalemate when i was told that i could not see the girls unless i agreed to proceed for sure, and i explained that i wouldn't decide or agree until i saw the girls first.

eventually he led in 6 girls. honestly, i think i would have been happy with any of the chicas. they were are solid 7's, in their 20's and slim. i decided on a petite high 7, with long black hair. she was sweet little thing, who seemed to love sex (can't remember her name).

after stopping at the restaurant next door for a steak and a beer, i ventured out to boom-boom table dance. it was early (10pm), but with 1/2 dozen patrons and the same number of girls, it seemed pathetic. i sat down and had a beer, and shooed away the girl that the waiter led to my table. the room was freezing, and i felt badly for the scantly clad girls, especially a couple of the skinny ones who don't have much body fat. one beer was enough to send me packing.

next stop was back to the neighborhood with #52. i drove a loop around the area. there were 1/2 dozen figurines standing in dark doorways within a block of where the map matched coahuila's directions. the neighborhood also has a smattering of table dance places within a few blocks.

i parked a block away, and went in on foot. as i passed 5 different doorways with 'girls', it became clear that they were all tv's. i walked around the block and wandered into one of the table dance bars. there were a couple low grade women (although one girl had a huuuuge rack), and i polished off a beer before moving on. back on the street, there were a few druggies stumbling around, and a few groups gathered out front of bars, but i didn't feel unsafe. like everywhere in gdl, the cops were doing loops ever so often with their lights flashing. so, disappointed, i headed back up towards central to check out the street action and a bar. neither was very interesting (more tv's on the street), and titanic had a high sausage factor, so bailed back to the hotel.

the next day day i wandered back over to med, and picked out a different girl. very happy with the quality for the price.

i'll likely head back down to gdl next week for another overnighter (maybe this time i'll find hc), but i don't think i'll bother with the strip clubs or the street scene next time, and stick with the massage parlors / esteticas.

i also wanted to clear up any confusion i may have caused regarding an earlier post, in which i mentioned a trip to juniors. it appears that there are 2 clubs called jrs. (same owner? ) the one i visited is 1/2 between the airport and lake chapala, on the main highway, while i believe that another poster was referring to the one in gdl.

Coahuila
01-07-08, 18:18
There are about 15 spots with TVs, and 5 with real girls. Of those 5, only 2 have any material worth while. The hotties are EXACTLY between Obregon and 12 de Octubre, ON Calle 52, on the west side of the street in a small door almost in the middle of the block. IN THAT DOOR, girls are 7. 9 s. The rest of the doors offer 1s. 6s at best, although one of the doors on 12 de Octubre supposedly has some good quality girls that never bother to stand in the door due to the amount of regular clients they have.

Mr. North, how and when are we going to meet up. I wouldn't mind taking you by the area, I have some unfinished "business" there with a chica. LOL. If you are in Ajijic, stop by the real estate office named "Casa Mexico" in the Plaza Ajijic and leave a message for Chris with your number. Again, be discreet.

Cheers,

Coahuila

World Wise
01-07-08, 21:39
Mr. North, when looking for High Class, look for a horseshoe of green and yellow balloons around the entranceway, right on the sidewalk. That is my landmark. The sign is low key, but I can spot the balloons from the other side of the street, and then just turn around at the traffic circle, and park on a side street.
The first time finding it is always the most difficult. But IMHO it is worth the effort.

Strike 69
01-08-08, 15:32
Some links to local forums, they are in Spanish and there's no much information available but they could come in handy:

http://boards5.melodysoft.com/app?ID=sexxxyprovincia

Inside there's a boutton with a link to the main group inside yahoo group whih is called: "foro temporal 2004"

There was another forum created about one year and a half ago called: Caderas Tapatias or Tapatian Hips, I don't remember the address and it wasnt an open forum it was some sort of "VIP" membership based in your contributions.

Coahuila
01-08-08, 22:17
All in spanish but with great information (better than sexxxyprovincia) is:

www.portalguadalajara.com.mx

It is free and you just have to register. It is down currently, but should be back up in a week or so. They are changing servers... mexican style.

Cheers,

Coahuila

Guadalajara Don
01-08-08, 23:21
Ignorance is saying that there are only 10 strip clubs in Guadalajara. The number is closer to 50. Probably on the up side of 50. Gringo tourists just don't know where to look.

Tiny 12
01-09-08, 18:03
Don, Do you have any favorites, where you don't have to spend lots of money to get drunk and get laid? The only low end strip clubs I've actually visited are the three between the airport and Hotel Tapatio, which were a lot of fun, although the quality of the women left something to be desired. Oh yeah, and Guadalajara del Dia -- that place really deteriorated with the years, if it's even still open -- it used to be the best in town.


Ignorance is saying that there are only 10 strip clubs in Guadalajara. The number is closer to 50. Probably on the up side of 50. Gringo tourists just don't know where to look.

Strike 69
01-09-08, 18:33
Ignorance is saying that there are only 10 strip clubs in Guadalajara. The number is closer to 50. Probably on the up side of 50. Gringo tourists just don't know where to look.


Oh yeah?? Don't make me laugh, let's count one by one the strip clubs in Guadalajara some of them are:

The Candy's
The Ramses
The Lipstick
The Golden paradise
El Juniors
The Golden Club
The Men's Club
The Ladies Bar
D'Klub
Guadalajara de Dia


Even though if there are now more than 10 strip clubs for what is worth? The best quality girls are found in the high end clubs such as the Mens Club and the Golden club, some time if you run with luck can found some in the Candys (not a high end one) and usually the rest (and many others low end clubs) have girls going to avarage to bad quality in both beauty and service offered (not all offer full service by the way) so for what is worth to have more than a dozen of clubs if they are full of bad or avarage quality girls who don't offer full service or offer bad service.

Coahuila
01-10-08, 17:37
Try around 80 to 100. The vast majority are in the centro, east of Independencia (I only see one of the maybe 20 or 30 in that area listed, namely Ramses) or on the highways leading out of town towards Saltillo, Mexico or Chapala. Supposedly the best strip club in town right now is Titanic Blue. Other good one's are Nuevo Galeon, another one in front of the estadio (name escapes me) and one on the salida towards Zapotlanejo near Puente Grande (sorry name escapes me). None of these are listed. There are 5 Junior's AT LEAST so saying there are only 10 strip clubs is plain stupid. Also, saying that only the high end clubs have nice girls, is also stupid. Men's and Golden's hire like 90% foreign girls, so if you are looking for Ukranians and Brazilians they are great, but if you want to see some hot Mexicanas you have to go to middle or lower end clubs. In fact, Candy's (upper middle end) hires about 50% or more extranjeras. For pure Mexicanas go even lower than that.

I would give more info but I'm really not a strip club kind of guy myself. Why pay the same amount of cash to watch one dance as to fuck one a parlor? BUT I have heard that Titanic Blue has live sex shows, lesbian shows AND a bucket of beers for a girl costs $400 pesos for which you can take her to a privado for an hour and fuck her. Of course, you have to look moderately decent, otherwise I'm sure she will charge you extra.

Have fun boys... oh, and I would be willing to bet a lapdance if you counted strip clubs 1 by 1 Guadalajara would have Monterrey beat silly. You just need the right guide.

Coahuila

Tiny 12
01-10-08, 23:33
Coahuila, that might work for young guys like you, assuming she's drunk on her ass or your girlfriend. But the rest of us don't have a prayer. Good info, I'm looking forward to checking out Titanic Blue next trip. Where's it at?


Titanic Blue has live sex shows, lesbian shows AND a bucket of beers for a girl costs $400 pesos for which you can take her to a privado for an hour and fuck her. Of course, you have to look moderately decent, otherwise I'm sure she will charge you extra.

Tiny 12
01-11-08, 00:27
Strike recently recommended a local web site that was previously mentioned here a few years ago. Anyway I was reading through it today, and Javier's escort service is getting almost unanimously rave reviews. According to the reviews, the quality and service are good, and prices are 1000 pesos for an hour, 1500 for 2 hours, and 3000 for TLN. Apparently he doesn't have a web site, and ISG site rules don't permit me to write the phone number here, but you can find it at

http://boards5.melodysoft.com/app?ID=sexxxyprovincia&msg=1306

http://boards5.melodysoft.com/app?ID=sexxxyprovincia&msg=1061&DOC=61

Apparently this is his cell phone.

Guadalajara Don
01-12-08, 00:53
Two new strip clubs have opened within the last six months between the airport and the Hotel Tapatio. Bucanero is the first right that you can make when exiting the airport going toward Guad. It is only about 50 meters after you leave the exit ramp, so be careful not to miss it. Cadillac is on the same side of the Caratera as the Boom Boom, just a little farther south. Neither gets going until after 10, so go to the Boom Boom first. They have a shift change at 9, so get there about 8-8:30. The early girls are borocha by then and good times can be had. If they are all fat and ugly, go back the next night. Things do change. After 9, 98% of them are fat and ugly and not worth your time.

After thinking about it for a few days, I have upped my estimate on the number of strip clubs in the area. It is over 100. Don't depend on a guy that uses the yellow pages to get his information. And don't be afraid to leave and go on to the next joint if you don't like what you see. Like I said, things change from night to night.

GD

Ken Tucky
01-12-08, 15:43
I spent 4 hours in this area yesterday. I wanted to see IF what was being published here had any validity. First of all, Calle 52 is not named "Calle 52" it has another name and that makes it difficult to find. Secondly, it is 3 blocks between Obragon and 12 de Octubre, so when it is stated that there is a "place in the middle of the block" it makes it hard to find at the very least. Anyways, I was there between 4 and 8. There were about 4 DOGS working and 1 pup. Most all wanted 150pesos. They were just too ugly to even waste my time! Although the pup was interesting. I only saw one TV who wanted 200pesos. Hmmm. There were about 4 clubs in the area. Most did not open until 9.

I have mongered in Monterrey. There may be "Monterrey Style" clubs in GDL but I have YET to find them. And IF you did find them, they would be few and FAR between. Not like in MTY where they are literally door to door in a ten block area. I'll keep exploring. Thanks for the info Coahuilla. I had a good time exploring yesterday. The easiest way to get to Calle 52 area is to take the east/west metro/train/subway. Just ask someone where to get off for "Calle 52. " It's only about 2 blocks from the station.

Ken Tucky
01-13-08, 16:36
Coahuila. I know that I appreciate your reports BUTT. When you give information please be more accurate. I checked out the "best kept secret" location yesterday on "Lenadores" which is actually pretty close to my house. First of all, it is LEONIDAS, not Lenadores. IF it is located between Vallarta and Ave. De Mexico. The street was about 4 blocks long. It was very residential. It was near Plaza de Mexico. Finding a house with advertisements, etc. Posted on it was next to impossible. Why don't you register with ISG so we can communicate?

Tiny 12
01-13-08, 20:14
Thanks Guadalajara Don, that sounds like a good strategy at Boom Boom. I don't remember whether it was the Boom Boom or another bar nearby, but I ran across an absolute stunner one night. Never got a chance to talk to her though.

Coahuila
01-14-08, 05:37
but it is obviously stronger than what I am smoking...

The street is called Leñadores (Lumber Jacks if you will) it is between Vallarta and Lazaro Cardenas I believe. It IS one block long and I have seen it. Not sure of the street names there, but look up Leñadores and you will find it.

As for the 52, let me get this straight, go Gigantes until Calle 52 (you will have to ask people, as the streets are labeled by names, but everyone knows them by numbers) when you get to 52, take a right. The next street is 12 de Octubre. The girls are between Gigantes and 12 de Octubre ON 52, about at the halfway point of the block. The last 3 weeks there have been uglier girls (not TVs, but not the same girls from before). Not sure what has changed, but I will investigate. When you hit 12 de Octubre you can take a right and 3 houses down there are more girls. Normally not my type, but last time there were two hotties. I couldn't investigate but will this week. Good luck, and this info is real .

Have fun,

Coahuila

Ken Tucky
01-14-08, 23:08
Gracias Coahuila.

Thanks for the verification on the street name. I'm using Guia Rojo for my info. And I do not know everyword in spanich. I'll go back to the area soon. I also have some more info that I'm going to check out that is in that area.

I went back to Calle 52 last night (Sunday) later in the night and YES. There are lots of real deals there. Three or four great girls. You DO have to be careful as some of these "girls" have really deep vioces. I had a blast there last night for less the $20US. I never felt threatened or afraid.

My new years resolution is to find the "local spots" not the tourist spots in GDL. I'm sure there is good puncha in this town!

Tiny 12
01-14-08, 23:51
Coahuila, I don't have any problem with what you write and appreciate your contributions -- you've livened up the board, and pointed me towards a couple of places I'm going to check out. You do have a different perspective at 25 than many of the rest of us.

KenTucky, Regarding location of Leñadores, see following - it looks like you were too far to the east:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Le%C3%B1adores+Guadalajara&sll=20.676921,-103.402946&sspn=0.007729,0.012338&ie=UTF8&ll=20.676917,-103.402934&spn=0.015458,0.024676&z=16&om=1

Since Calle 52 is Antonio Tello, those places should be here (don't know which side of Calle 52/Antonio Tello it's on from description):

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=20.665915,-103.318455&daddr=&mra=mi&mrsp=0&sz=16&sll=20.665935,-103.318348&sspn=0.015459,0.024676&ie=UTF8&z=16&om=1

Coahuila
01-15-08, 23:27
That was tongue in cheek man, I am German, so you have to put up with some sarcasm. Check out the areas, they are fun. Although, the house on 52 has not had the quality the last two times I drove past it as it did over the last 6 months. I hope that's just because the girls are on a winter break, and not a more permanent situation.

Saludos,

Coahuila

Ken Tucky
01-15-08, 23:52
Well. I just got back from Lenadores. One side of the street is some kind of a "compound" with a 15ft wall surrounding it and the other side is apartments. Now, I walked the area 4 times over a 2 hour period and I saw NOTHING that looked like it had ANY women. It looked very residential and family.

Coahuila. This is very exhausting. Noone is doubting your "reports" but you are NOT giving very good info like HOUSE NUMBERS. And WHY would someone go to this much trouble when there are at least 8 Esteticas within 5 blocks of Centro Magna? All will charge you the same price as what you call "the best kept secret" in GDL. IF you are going to give info, please give details.

Country John
01-16-08, 01:40
I would give more info but I'm really not a strip club kind of guy myself. Why pay the same amount of cash to watch one dance as to fuck one a parlor? BUT I have heard that Titanic Blue ........................................
Coahuila

Is Kenia still there?

Country John

Phase6
01-16-08, 05:24
The street is Lenadores and it is between Avenida Mexico and Vallarta before the train tracks. The deal is 600 pesos for one pop but its negociable. The thing is its wierd cuz after you agree to the deed the chick takes you to another apt. About 5 minutes away. Its secure just a little wierd the whole set up. The only chick abvailable was Lucy. 42 y/o and has 2 kids. Cool service. Wish they had more chicks.

Ken Tucky
01-17-08, 22:08
OMG! The question IS: What is the apartment number!!! There are 30 apartments on that street! Is a person suppose to go door to door?? Guys, this is ridiculous! And 600 pesos! Negotiable!? I would hope so! And one old hag with 2 kids! This is a SECRET! As far as I'm concerned this is best left to be a secret! I've already wasted too much time on this!

I'm looking for a house that is near the train station and Super Gigante. It's in the same area? Anyone know about this?

Phase6
01-18-08, 16:37
OMG! The question IS: What is the apartment number!!! There are 30 apartments on that street! Is a person suppose to go door to door?? Guys, this is ridiculous! And 600 pesos! Negotiable!? I would hope so! And one old hag with 2 kids! This is a SECRET! As far as I'm concerned this is best left to be a secret! I've already wasted too much time on this!

I'm looking for a house that is near the train station and Super Gigante. It's in the same area? Anyone know about this?Calm down buddy! I wa trying to help. The number is 18. And as stated by other posters its the only only one with you bunch of signs and posters on the front of it. As for the rest of the deal everyone knows that things change at these places more than than the girls change their underwear sooo that was my experience bout 2 months ago. Could very well have changed.

Phase6
01-18-08, 17:01
Here is the chick and place in question.

Phase6
01-18-08, 17:02
I forgot the link.

http://guadalajara.vivastreet.com.mx/escorts-masajistas+guadalajara/lucy-en-promocion/1110966

Coahuila
01-18-08, 21:33
It is halfway down the street, with signs of "lots for sale" all over the front door. The only one there that is like that. There usually are between 2 and 5 girls working, or at least there were. They are all older than 30. I think the number may be #118.

As for the other esteticas around Centro Magno. I don't know them. I recently checked out Alexander and Sagitarrios, both on Federalismo. There is a chica that goes by Paulina at Sagitarrios that is OK in the looks department (maybe a 6), but gives really good service and is really nice. That is the only one I could recommend at either of those esteticas at this point.

Have fun!

Coahuila

Ken Tucky
01-23-08, 19:36
I went downtown last night just to check out what was happening on a Tuesday night in January. The last time I was downtown "exploring" was back in August. I was on Independencia between Revolution and Morelos Park. I've just given up on the SC's here. Lipstick had a bunch of balloons and a bunch of big bouncers out front. I wouldn't even dare look at them muchless go in. Funny, but one of the bouncer recognized me as a gringo and looked as if he wanted to 'persuade' me to go in. The SC scene here is just plain stupid. Just plain stupid! I know that it has to do with the local politics and religion. But still, this is Mexico! And the street scene is about as wide open as I've seen anywhere. Ok. So, you have a lot of street action on both sides of Independencia for about a mile. There were at least 10 girls working in Morelos Park. Now granted, these are NOT hot mamasitas, but there was one who was completely adorable. 200pesos. That's the price. I like to pretend that I don't speak any Spanish and let them quote me a price. Usually I do this only with the fugly mammas. Anyways, I'm gonna go to the SC in the Calle 52 area this weekend. I've been there but it has been way too early. Problem is, Calle 52 is a long way from where I live and the buses and subway close at 11pm. Hard to get into the 'game' in the SC when you know that you have to take a 30min taxi ride home. Ok. Happy New Year.

Ken Tucky
01-27-08, 17:35
I went to Calle 52 last night. I particularly wanted to check out the strip clubs. There are actually 6 in the area. All have big impressive facades on their entrances, but as of 10: 30pm they were all DEAD. I went into one who made me pay a $40mxnpeso cover. They told me there were 5 girls working. They lied. It just felt like the same song and dance as every other SC in GDL.

I did run into some trouble: with the police. I was walking on the sidewalk. They pulled over, checked me and stole $100mxnpesos from me! These were federales, not the local policia.

There are lots of chicas of all kinds in the Calle 52 area. Just be careful with the police!

Brito
01-30-08, 04:03
Hey guys,

First, Old Guy, how much was Grecia going for?

About the gem of a brothel close to Plaza Mexico, on leandores I had a look for it the other week. Difficult to find but with the house number you get it. Theres a sign advertising rooms for rent on a tree by the house. Well I knocked and an old dear opened the door. She lead me to the kitchen and I met a chica, dirty blonde, forgot her name, she told me that she was the only girl available. We negociated. She was quite pretty. In her 30's and slim. We went upstairs and got to it. Id go back, she was pleasing and sexy.

Hows Mediterrano thses days?

Fraga1
01-31-08, 08:20
hello to all,

i am local mexican, excuse for may english skills but i want to comment my last experiences in the scene of girls in guadalajara, the last week i went as to 2 of afternoon to estetica eduar's www.eduars. 7dtodo.com in golfo de cortez 2876-b by the glorieta minerva and takes the surprise to me of which there are new girls, like 8, i chose a girl name tamara, 19 years, 1, 70 m pretty, sexy, pleasant, she did bbj and very pleasant to have sex in any position, she's from the state of sinaloa and is new in the business, it is a very recommendable, she's a real ninfo, requests $1. 050 pesos but accepted by $1. 000, it was really worth it.

also in previous weeks i visited estetica alex in av. 876 arcos, col. jardines del bosque with many [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) girls some very young but legal, some very pretty, there were like 7 girls, almost every 2 weeks enter 2 or 3 new working girls, costs $1. 000 pesos full service, in special there is a new very pretty girl of 18 years, non remember her name, she is very sexual girl. another place that i visited in last days was the table dance ramses near the area calle 52 and obregón, it has the best selection of girls of that area, in special there is a foreign girl from uruguay, 21 years, very sexy, went to the private with her and she has a divine body and face. please post your comments if you visit these places, remember that many times we depend on the luck to find quality in this city and the best places usually have high personal rotation, especially if you want to avoid old hags, good luck!

Tiny 12
01-31-08, 20:16
Welcome aboard Fraga! It sounds like Eduars is worth visiting again. Hope to hear more from you soon.

Dean69
02-01-08, 07:15
Made the usual visit to High Class. Had Vicki. 550. She was quite nice. Worth returning to see her again.

Ken Tucky
02-01-08, 16:21
Just want to keep everyone informed: You DO NOT have to pay 1000pesos to get good 'Estetica" service in GDL. There are dozens of esteticas for 400pesos. I have been to Eduars and I walked out after they quoted the price. Now IF you want to spend that kind of money, fine. Just want you to know that 400pesos is the going price at an Estetica.

Also, I appreciate the report about the Leanordes Location, but I still DO NOT know why this place is such a 'gem. ' Especially since I still do not know the price.

The 'going rate' for this kind of 'backdoor' location is usually 200pesos. Again, there are lots of these kind of locations around town.

Tiny 12
02-01-08, 17:31
ken tucky, that's 400 pesos for 30 minutes, right? when you pay 1000 to 1200 pesos at the higher-priced esteticas you're getting an hour, so i don't think that's directly comparable. also, i can walk into, say, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), pay 1200, and be assured i'm at least going to a place with nice facilities and some good looking women. that's not always true of the lower priced places (and admittedly not true of some of the higher priced establishments either).

what are your favorite esteticas right now?

Guadalajara Don
02-01-08, 22:01
I hope you didn't kiss Vicki, Dean69. I was there about noon and had a very nice BBBJ. I consider her a bargain for 550 pesos. Don't wory too much about the kiss, she had a toothbrush and toothpaste with her. haha

Was Pancho still painting in the stair area when you were there?

To all others: Vicki was the only worthwhile Puta there, the rest were Gordas (and ugly). Perhaps there was a better selection after 2, when the rest of them come in.

Phase6
02-02-08, 09:08
Just want to keep everyone informed: You DO NOT have to pay 1000pesos to get good 'Estetica" service in GDL. There are dozens of esteticas for 400pesos. I have been to Eduars and I walked out after they quoted the price. Now IF you want to spend that kind of money, fine. Just want you to know that 400pesos is the going price at an Estetica.

Also, I appreciate the report about the Leanordes Location, but I still DO NOT know why this place is such a 'gem. ' Especially since I still do not know the price.

The 'going rate' for this kind of 'backdoor' location is usually 200pesos. Again, there are lots of these kind of locations around town.Can always find out the price if you walk in the joint and ask. I wouldn't call it a Gem myself.

Dean69
02-02-08, 13:32
I was walking along Lopez Mateos, going to High Class, when I saw a sign for Casanova. Ave. Lopez Mateos Sur #1623. Now, I remembered having read something about the place a few years back, but I cannot find it now.

Anyhow, I decided to stop. Was offered 1 chica for 500, 2 for 800. I opted for Nicole and Angie. Nicole is a bit bigger, Angie more thin. Angie's hands were so good that I came almost immediately. No fear, offered another one. Nicole did CBJ. No FS offered. I was disappointed by that, but all in all not a bad experience.

Dean69
02-02-08, 13:33
I hope you didn't kiss Vicki, Dean69. I was there about noon and had a very nice BBBJ. I consider her a bargain for 550 pesos. Don't wory too much about the kiss, she had a toothbrush and toothpaste with her. haha

Was Pancho still painting in the stair area when you were there?

To all others: Vicki was the only worthwhile Puta there, the rest were Gordas (and ugly). Perhaps there was a better selection after 2, when the rest of them come in.I was there later in the afternoon, and the selection was ample. However, IMHO, she was the best.

Ken Tucky
02-02-08, 19:23
Tiny. Yep 30 min. Hell, that's how I learned to do it: start at the bottom and bid up. And plenty of us have been ripped off at the high dollar places to know that there is NOT a guarentee there either. The backdoor girls in Calle 52 area start at 150pesos. I can't imagine what would happen IF I offered them 500 or 1000!! To each his own. Just my 'dos pesos' worth.

Fraga1
02-05-08, 09:42
Often the rule is you get what you pay in the Estetica but no always, by example referring to my last post, the time service is longer, better looking girls, more amateur and younger, better and cleaner facilities, Bare blow jobs, no rush, it's really worth it if you prefer quality.

Do you know that Esteticas High Class, Mediterraneo and Alcala belong to the same owner and they rotate the girls once a while, that means they usually are higher mileage girls but sometimes you find a gem into these places.


Just want to keep everyone informed: You DO NOT have to pay 1000pesos to get good 'Estetica" service in GDL. There are dozens of esteticas for 400pesos. I have been to Eduars and I walked out after they quoted the price. Now IF you want to spend that kind of money, fine. Just want you to know that 400pesos is the going price at an Estetica.

Also, I appreciate the report about the Leanordes Location, but I still DO NOT know why this place is such a 'gem. ' Especially since I still do not know the price.

The 'going rate' for this kind of 'backdoor' location is usually 200pesos. Again, there are lots of these kind of locations around town.

Dollar Bill
02-05-08, 17:34
hi all,

i was in town visiting with the family and had a moment of escape to visit both of these places.

i remembered approximately where high class (and jovi (now closed)) were but they have done some major work on improving the roads in front of hc. (i knew [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) was close but i was not exactly sure where it was).

i entered high class and was presented the girls (about 6-8 of them). they were mainly 5-7's imho but i found one (vanessa) that would work. i was told the price was $550 mn for 1/2 hour. vanessa came in, asked if i wanted to start up the jacuzzi, but i passed and told her i only wanted the relation. she was cool with that and left for the condom. 5 minutes later, cbj and then move to the rear entry standing. it was all good and after several minutes, i was done. great, fast way to clean the pipe.

i asked her about [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and she told me where it was (across the street next to the beer place). i cleaned up and left and went to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

15 seconds before i entered, a guy went in. he was shown to his room and me to my room. the line up passed his room then mine. the 8-10 women presented looked better than at high class (7-8's imho). i was already good to go since i had cleaned the pipe twice that day (once with wife in am and then once with venessa in hc). the lady came around and asked which one i wanted and i picked the one with the nicest face/body (enhanced), but then she told me that she had already been chosen by the guy that came in before me. i used that as my excuse to leave saving me the $1200 pesos price that they were asking. (i really only wanted to see the line up so i could report to you all).

[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is much nicer place with nicer women but also at a higher cost. not for some of you budget mongers.

take care!

$bill

DrBrew1
02-09-08, 20:23
I was walking along Lopez Mateos, going to High Class, when I saw a sign for Casanova. Ave. Lopez Mateos Sur #1623. Now, I remembered having read something about the place a few years back, but I cannot find it now.

Anyhow, I decided to stop. Was offered 1 chica for 500, 2 for 800. I opted for Nicole and Angie. Nicole is a bit bigger, Angie more thin. Angie's hands were so good that I came almost immediately. No fear, offered another one. Nicole did CBJ. No FS offered. I was disappointed by that, but all in all not a bad experience.Are there hotels close enough that one could walk to these MPs?

Thanks in advance.

Dean69
02-11-08, 05:09
Are there hotels close enough that one could walk to these MPs?

Thanks in advance.The Hilton is on Avenida Rosas and Mariano Otero-- it is a walk, but not too bad. Also, Mariano Otero has some less expensive hotels. Lopez Mateos also has high end, like the Intercontinental as well as slightly less expensive places. Again, it is a bit of a walk, but not bad.

Moby Dav
02-11-08, 20:19
Yesterday I was passing through the city and I thought I'd drop in to High Class for a 1/2 hour session. Last time I was there I saw Vanessa who, as Dollar Bill reported recently, gave a quite good performance.

This time there were about half a dozen chicas, all pretty plain, so I went with the one who met me at the door - Jessica. She's quite attractive although she could stand to lose about 20 lbs, and she seemed very friendly when she greeted me.

I paid for a half hour, took a shower, and we started. She gave me a back rub with cold cream that lasted about 3 minutes, then had me roll over so the she could get me hard with her hands and put on the cover, then proceeded to climb on. I said "What about oral?" and I shouldn't have bothered. The good thing about it was that she only did it for about 30 seconds, and then climbed on again for CG. After she had humped around for about a minute she stopped and said "Did you finish?". I said no, she suggested perrito, and by this time all I wanted to do was get it over with, so that's what I did. Total time including showers before and after just under 15 minutes.

To top it all off it was only an hour later that I realized I had forgotten to collect my 50 pesos change.

I've never had bad service at HC before, although never anything truly great either. However if this is an example of what can happen there these days, I'm not going to waste time and money trying out any others.

Moldy Cork
02-12-08, 20:18
Hi,

I'm new to this board, and to the area, but I hope geezers like me are welcome. I'm retired in Ajijic, and I've read with interest the reports about activity locally. So far it sounds fairly depressing, but whenever my leash-holder goes north to visit her family, I look forward to exploring the possibilities. I've seen a place called Intimo Bar and Motel at the Ajijic end of the bypass; does anyone know if there is any action there? Or any other possibilities than the ones reported on previously?

Ken Tucky
02-15-08, 17:47
You guys who pay 1000mxn and more for service do NOT get what you pay for! You just get ripped off for more! i.e. the High Class experience recently posted by Moby Dave. I am here to tell you where the prices 'start' at most places here in GDL. IF you decide to pay more, iT DOES NOT guarantee better service. GDL is a different scene than other places I've been in Mexico. The religion and politics of GDL determine of lot of it's protocal. I've only lived here for 6 months and have learned a lot. Who knows what I will learn in the future? Just the 'usual' haunts that are posted and reported here are NOT anywhere near what GDL offers. The area around Centro Magna is rich with 'opportunities.' Check my other posts if you'd like to know what I think and pm me if you have any specific questions.

Ken Tucky
02-18-08, 17:40
Ok guys, I’ve listed ten locations within walking distance a Centro Magno that are great Esteticas. The prices are reasonable (starting at 400mxn), the facilities are clean, and the girls are nice. I’ve listed these in order of preference. I've got pics of all of them but am not going to attach them. Let’s see what you guys think. Happy trails.

Griegos (Lopez Cotilla & Ave. America) always hot mamasitas! Go after 4.

Christopher (Hidalgo & Francisco Rojas Gonzalez) always hot mamsitas. Go anytime.

Valentino & Molino Rojo (Justo Sierra y Severo Diaz, near Lopez Mateos)
Luigi (Lopez Cotilla & M. Cervantes)

Beauty Garden (La Paz & Simon Bolivar) Never very many girls, but the ones who are there are usually hot.

Barba Azul (Vallarta & Calderon de la Barca) Really nice facilities. Not many girls. Starts at mil pesos!

Casandra (Bernardo de Balbuena & Garibaldi) Hole in the wall with poor facilities, but hot mamasitas and will salida.

World Men’s (Pedro Moreno between Balbuena & Pacencia) Go after 4. Never tried it, I shopped it once and there was only one girl.

General Manuel M. Dieguez #264 & Reforma. Been here twice. They are sisters. One big one and one very very nice one. 220mxn is a great price.

World Wise
02-18-08, 19:59
Wonderful contribution, KT. I will be there in April for a week, and will do my best to work through the entire list. Thank you!

Mou7189
02-19-08, 23:15
Dudes! Where have you been? I have been to Guadalajara twice in the past 4 months and have left feeling pissed off. First let me set the stage. I am from Detroit (a white guy) but speak ZERO spanish and had never been to Mexico before. Each time I went I was there for 1 night only.

First time I stayed at Holiday Inn in downtown. By the time my meetings got finished and I got checked into the hotel room it was 8PM. Was hoping that my locals would leave me alone and let me find some good spots but they stayed to have dinner with me. Which did absolutely nothing for me. As soon as they left I was out the door looking for trouble. After walking around downtown for several hours and not finding one damn place I resorted to the yellow pages back at the hotel room. I had to use the shotgun approach until I found someone who spoke a little English. I told them I wanted small and petite. 45 minutes later a guy and a woman appear at the door. I had to pay the bastard to leave so I could be alone with the sub-par lady. It was late and I was horney so I nailed her and sent her on her way. Total cost $1750 MXP. I know I got ripped off but hey where the hell were guys when I was looking for a piece?

Next trip was last week and I decided to try a different place. This time it was the Holiday Inn Select. Again it was 1 nighter and I did not get to the hotel until 7PM. I asked the taxi driver for Chicas but he did not have a clue what I was saying, or maybe I did not have clue what he was saying but either way I was not led to a piece of ass. I walked around the block or two looking for some action but did not find any. After the last experience I just went back to the room and crashed by 9PM. I am now going back next week for 2 nights. This time however I will be Aguascalientes. Can anyone provide some leads? I have no room reservations at this time. I need to stay on the north side of town.

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Monger X
02-21-08, 00:49
two things that i can suggest right away:
one, the first hi you stayed at was a good choice. what you may not have tried was discreetly asking one of the evening bellmen about some chicas. i had a couple offers last time i stayed there; they quoted 2000 pesos for the hour. while i think thats a bit high it does include "insurance" that you won't be hassled. it also helps if you tell them they'll get a nice tip. i usually give em 100 pesos depending on who they find. alternately, if you exit the hotel and go to the right, you end up on independencia where there are usually sg's to be found late afternoons and into the night. depending on your spanish and comfort level you might be able to negotiate bringing one back with you. naturally you would be targeting the better looking ones (less than 10% of whats out there) that are dressed neatly and doesnt look strung out.
if you go the escort route, they can always meet you in the bar on the second floor or, if it's early enough, at the coffee shop off the main lobby.

second: the hi select is a nice place but from what i have observed on numerous stays, a little more rigid with their rules on getting someone upstairs during late evening hours (other members please feel free to correct this if i am wrong). but don't despair!! it also happens to be in close walking distance (approx 1 km) to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and high class esteticas. if you have good rapport with your chosen chica you can ask for her number and arrange to have her meet you after work for a visit. theres also a good steakhouse restaurant next to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) if your workout works up an appetite!

all that said i will be in gdl next week and plan on partaking in some hot latina lovin!

Mou7189
02-21-08, 14:33
Like I said, where were you before I went to Guadalajara?

Speaking ZERO and I mean ZERO spanish puts me at a huge disadvantage. While at the HI I must have walked 10km looking for a piece of ass. Maybe I just do not know how to approach the chicas but I came up with zero. The escort route really sucked but I did not have any problems getting the girl past the front and I did not tip. It took her alot longer than I thought for her to arrive. I did receive a fews calls regarding her arrival but I could not tell you if they were from the guy that delivered her or from the front desk of the HI. They guy that came to the door with here was not from HI. The girl was not really what I was looking for but but she had a pussy and I did not.

About the HIS, I did not know that I was so close to places that I have read you guys talking about. I asked the taxi driver and like I said, either I did not undertsand him or he did not understand me but I know I cleary asked him for Chicas. I did not walk around near as much while at this hotel as I was tired and the neighborhood looked to upscale to have such places. I must have walked in the wrong damn direction. I would agree that it would be very hard to get a girl past the front door at this place as they had no less than 4 bell boys standing there all night long.

Can anybody help with the scene in Aguascalientes? I will be there next week for 2 nights and would like to at know where to go for a piece before arriving and spinning my wheels.

Monger X
02-22-08, 19:19
Don't feel bad. My first trip to GDL I read the forum and thought I had it all figured out as well. *I* had no idea three esteticas (Jovi was open then too) were so close until I was headed back to the airport and the cab drove right past them. I also spent a lot of time exploring all the way to Minerva Circle and eventually down to centro- the opposite way from where I wanted to go. What helped me tremendously was the posts made here along with the Guia-Roji street map of GDL.
Just make sure to file all this info for the next time you go down and I can assure you a much better result than your previous trips.

Mou7189
02-22-08, 20:03
MongerX,

Can you help with Aguascalientes?

Looks like I will be staying 30 minutes to the north of the airport at a place called "Los Trojes". Can anyone help?

Monger X
02-22-08, 20:14
K T

Thanks for the information. I broke out the Guia Roji and located the spots you mentioned. All in a pretty nice area and close enough to Santo Coyote for a good meal afterwards!

Ken Tucky
02-23-08, 21:35
I picked up a copy of the little newspaper called 'Metro' yesterday (Friday). It has 3 or 4 pages of escorts and esteticas. I located a couple on Federalismo that I wanted to check out. One is called Sagittarious and is located at 376 Federalismo (at La Paz). The other is Alexander and is actually located on Morelos #776 (and Federalismo) only two shops off Federalismo next to the Pemex. There was a nice selection and good prices starting at 250mxn, completo! I then went downtown and played with the girls in the Centro. I love the selection around Parque Morelos! It was a beautiful warm spring day here in GDL with love in the air. Beats the wind, snow, and cold in the EEUU. Think I might head toward Calle 52 tonight. Happy Trails.

Fire This
02-25-08, 05:24
Hi Fellas!

I just find out this forum and it is pretty cool, Ive lived all my life here in Guad and I think is not fair for you (Foreign visitors) to pass through a hell to have nice chicas fun here in town, there for I will like to offer you my help in this matter, just IM me or send me an email or at this forum I can help you with places, prices, risk and stuff, I do this for fun and I hope I can have the same support when I visit any where out of Guad.

Disclaimer: I dont own or handle any of this business, am employee on an international company and because of that I have a lot of experience in business hang outs for fun.

Later

Ken Tucky
02-25-08, 16:35
Thanks Native for the 'offer' to help. But first of all you need to be able to receive private messages. I'd love to meet you and talk about the many other 'opportunities' available here in beautiful Guadalajara!

Fire This
02-27-08, 01:28
Thanks Native for the 'offer' to help. But first of all you need to be able to receive private messages. I'd love to meet you and talk about the many other 'opportunities' available here in beautiful Guadalajara!Am able to do so, I will wait for you.

Regards

DrBrew1
02-27-08, 02:42
Hi Fellas!

I just find out this forum and it is pretty cool, Ive lived all my life here in Guad and I think is not fair for you (Foreign visitors) to pass through a hell to have nice chicas fun here in town, there for I will like to offer you my help in this matter, just IM me or send me an email or at this forum I can help you with places, prices, risk and stuff, I do this for fun and I hope I can have the same support when I visit any where out of Guad.

Disclaimer: I dont own or handle any of this business, am employee on an international company and because of that I have a lot of experience in business hang outs for fun.

LaterFire this are there certain clubs that are better for a 1st timer in your city? I make my first visit in July and need some help.Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Fire This
02-27-08, 04:19
Fire this are there certain clubs that are better for a 1st timer in your city? I make my first visit in July and need some help.Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.Dr Brew.

Certainly you can go to one of the best well SC in town, they are not cheap but you can find high end stuff and it's a very good training, the price is given back in security and comfortable facilities, take a cab to Candy's Club, the one near Galerias Mall (on Vallarta Ave) and a mile ahead you'll find DKlub those are good if you are going solo or without guidance.

Later

Coahuila
02-29-08, 17:02
I picked up a copy of the little newspaper called 'Metro' yesterday (Friday). It has 3 or 4 pages of escorts and esteticas. I located a couple on Federalismo that I wanted to check out. One is called Sagittarious and is located at 376 Federalismo (at La Paz). The other is Alexander and is actually located on Morelos #776 (and Federalismo) only two shops off Federalismo next to the Pemex. There was a nice selection and good prices starting at 250mxn, completo! I then went downtown and played with the girls in the Centro. I love the selection around Parque Morelos! It was a beautiful warm spring day here in GDL with love in the air. Beats the wind, snow, and cold in the EEUU. Think I might head toward Calle 52 tonight. Happy Trails.Hey Ken Tucky, if you are going to go back to those parlors I recommend Paulina. She's kind of dark and works at Sagittarius now (used to work at Alexander, both belong to the same owner). She isn't the hottest girl in Guad, but she is the best looking one in those clubs and gives really killer service. She is down to meet up afterwards too for $200 or $400 pesos.

Good luck, and post a report.

Cheers,

Coahuila

Uvlguy
03-01-08, 10:39
Hey all I am here in guad and am looking to take my buddy to a estecia but I am not sure where the best ones are. I am in chapala so I need to have the address so at least I could look it up on a map since I am not familiar with the city but I am fluent in spanish so thats helps alot. Any help would be great.

Thanks

Fire This
03-02-08, 15:14
hey all i am here in guad and am looking to take my buddy to a estecia but i am not sure where the best ones are. i am in chapala so i need to have the address so at least i could look it up on a map since i am not familiar with the city but i am fluent in spanish so thats helps alot. any help would be great.

thankshey dude,

here is the info of the esteticas accd to my experience those has the better quality, let me know if you need further info....

alex: av. arcos 876. costo:1,000

select: av. la paz 2546 tel:1204-9004 y 3563-6503. costo:1000-1100

[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123): av. lazaro lardenas xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx costo: 1100 aprox

eduars: golfo de cortes 2876 a 1 cuadra de la minerva

jet set: av. mexico entre americas y chapultepec.

world mens: pedro moreno 1701? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx a 2 cuadras de americas

high class: lazaro cardenas entre lopez mateos y los arcos del milenio. 3122-0540. costo: 450

christopher: hidalgo 1758 3616-9173.

cassandra: bernardo de balbuena 287 a 2 cuadras de av. mexico y a 1 de lopez mateos. 3615-2894 costo $400-450.

palacio real: (en “remodelacion” y por abrir ya) lopez cotilla 1537 y entre americas y chapultepec. 3630-4836.costo x reapertura $400.

aristos: plan de san luis a media cuadra de circunvalacion (ubicate: cerca de la glorieta colon)

monsieur: lopez mateos 123 frente a sport city, cerca de la minerva

mediterraneo: niños heroes. frente a la nissan y hotel carlton. 2 cuadras de 16 de septiembre.

nombre=?: av. federalismo a media cuadra de plan de san luis.

kassandra: lopez mateos 1623 cerca av. las rosas. costo: 450 aprox.

nombre=?: av. la paz 2155 esq. gral san martin.(esta a medio nivel abajo del nivel de la calle) costo $800.00

Moldy Cork
03-02-08, 20:53
Hi to all,

Since my last posting — asking for mongering info for the Lake Chapala area — got no response (which tells me things really are as dead as I thought at Lakeside), let me try this instead.

Has anyone had any experience, positive or negative, with AdultFriendFinder? Some of the chicas appearing there look really hot, and I'm wondering if they are authentic independents or rip-offs (fronts for agencies, etc.), or something else. Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Monger X
03-03-08, 21:29
Didn't have as much time to check out the esteticas that Ken mentioned in an earlier post so my last night in GDL I opted to call out for room service. Chose Prestige as it was recommended earlier in the forum.
Called in the afternoon to set things up for later that evening, the mms was not fluent in English but between her English and my Spanish we did fine. Called back later that evening to confirm and the evening mms spoke perfect English and said that she was waiting for my confirmation. Price quoted was $1500MN for 90 minutes plus $150 MN for the taxi afterwards.
She described Valeria and I gave the OK. I also suggested that she meet me in the restaurant/bar but was told it should be early enough for there not to be a problem with hotel security. Well the mms should have listened to me; after 45 min a call came from the front desk where I was asked to come down and meet my lady (after the requisite paperwork). The poor girl looked horrified and I couldn't say I blamed her. She was dreesed in a nice conservative black business pants suit, minimal make up, nothing to indicate why she was there.
I played it off- greeted her like an old friend- and we retired back to my room.
Valeria said she was 25 years old, one kid and is about 5"2 nice dark hair just past her shoulders with reddish hilights. First there was some hugging and cuddling, light kisses and little Monger was getting excited! She took off her jacket to reveal a lacy bra that held her perky 34 B's. We got her out of her sexy lingerie and I started by giving her a light massage that took her by surprise but she really enjoyed. I started kissing her and worked my way down to a nice shaved Y with a neat little landing strip. Just above the strip was a c-scar but not all that noticeable. I asked if she liked DATY and was given the go ahead and proceeded to devour her for the next hour until she said it was my turn. She began with a nice BBBJ giving lots of attention to lil Monger and his twin brothers, really getting into what she was doing. She got me close a couple times and when I thought I was finally gonna lose control we stopped for a few minutes to let things simmer down. Got the cover that I had left for her on the nightstand and we went through CG, RCG, ACG, doggie and finally mish where I couldn't hold back any longer. I got a couple towels and cleaned us both up and gave her another massage- she wanted to curl up and sleep- so we did for a little while. She got up and called the agency and from the look on her face it seemed like they were not too happy she had gone over the alotted time. We dressed real quick and I walked her out through the lobby (like an old friend) where her driver was waiting just down from the hotel.
All in all it was an excellent service and I have no problem recommending it to anyone here. Only thing I would suggest is to insist to the mms that the lady meet you in the bar if its after 7PM to avoid any uncomfortable circumstances for her.

Moby Dav
03-11-08, 20:31
Hit another jackpot yesterday thanks to these nice guys who posted lists of esteticas recently. However, I absolutely could not find Barba Azul, although I did a square search on foot all around the intersection of Vallarta and Calderon de la Barca. I did locate Griegos (1790 Lopez Cotilla, north side of the street just east of Ave. America) and Luigi at 1882 Lopez Cotilla.

Went in to Luigi and was greeted by Adriana who took me directly to a smallish but clean room. I didn't ask to see anyone else because she looked just about perfect to me! The price was right. 450 for half, 650 for full hour. I took the half and at first she gave a very firm massage, then switched to very light strokes teasing around the balls a bit, and I could tell she was at least topless by this time because I could feel her nipples on my back as she leaned over me.

When I rolled over she removed her thong, and I have to say she is just about the best built I've ever seen. Maybe 5'4 to 5'6, 36C with no hint of chubbiness. She started with a CBJ, then took my hand and had me stroke her pussy for a while, then got on for some energetic CG and finishing "ratito"

Highly recommended!

Fire This
03-13-08, 17:48
Hit another jackpot yesterday thanks to these nice guys who posted lists of esteticas recently. However, I absolutely could not find Barba Azul, although I did a square search on foot all around the intersection of Vallarta and Calderon de la Barca. I did locate Griegos (1790 Lopez Cotilla, north side of the street just east of Ave. America) and Luigi at 1882 Lopez Cotilla.

Went in to Luigi and was greeted by Adriana who took me directly to a smallish but clean room. I didn't ask to see anyone else because she looked just about perfect to me! The price was right. 450 for half, 650 for full hour. I took the half and at first she gave a very firm massage, then switched to very light strokes teasing around the balls a bit, and I could tell she was at least topless by this time because I could feel her nipples on my back as she leaned over me.

When I rolled over she removed her thong, and I have to say she is just about the best built I've ever seen. Maybe 5'4 to 5'6, 36C with no hint of chubbiness. She started with a CBJ, then took my hand and had me stroke her pussy for a while, then got on for some energetic CG and finishing "ratito"

Highly recommended!It is funny how the esteticas charge you more just because you're american, when a native goes there they offer you 450 for full hour and 650 for 2 girls, I guess is better to go with good company.

Moby Dav
03-16-08, 19:49
It is funny how the esteticas charge you more just because you're american, when a native goes there they offer you 450 for full hour and 650 for 2 girls, I guess is better to go with good company.Actually, I'm not Mexican - blond hair, blue eyes, very limited Spanish, and not young and good-looking. I wasn't offered two girls for 650 at Luigi - the difference in price, as she explained to me, was whether I wanted one or two "ejaculationes". I think I'm a bit old for two in one hour!

Double Dong
03-31-08, 02:13
Hi,

I'm totally new to both this forum and the whole scene in general. I'm living in GDL at the moment and next week I'm gonna get some action going on. I've read a big part of this thread but I still have a couple of questions, which I hope someone could answer:

1. At this stage, I'm only looking for a massage and a handjob (so no actual sex), what would be the correct price for this service in the esteticas?

2. When I enter the esteticas, how does the deal go down? Do I just directly ask for what I'm looking for or is there some "code language" in use etc.? Also, do I pay before or after the service?

Thanks for help!

Mou7189
04-01-08, 21:17
Double Dong,

Please do keep us posted. I am not sure when yet but believe that within the next 30 days I will be visiting Guadalajara. I have been there twice before and have not had good luck. Mostly becasue I do not speak any spanish.

Would love to meet up and monger together after you have scoured the land.
When I visit I have satyed at the Holdiay Inn downtown and the Holiday Inn Select. From what I have read, there are a couple of spots near the Holiday Inn Select but to be honest I had no luck there. Not as much to see in that area and I probably quit looking too soon.

The downtown area was neat because it was full of people. No luck finding anything in that area but I know they were there. I spent a good deal of time walking around which was not all that bad.

Fire This
04-02-08, 22:14
Double Dong,

Please do keep us posted. I am not sure when yet but believe that within the next 30 days I will be visiting Guadalajara. I have been there twice before and have not had good luck. Mostly becasue I do not speak any spanish.

Would love to meet up and monger together after you have scoured the land.
When I visit I have satyed at the Holdiay Inn downtown and the Holiday Inn Select. From what I have read, there are a couple of spots near the Holiday Inn Select but to be honest I had no luck there. Not as much to see in that area and I probably quit looking too soon.

The downtown area was neat because it was full of people. No luck finding anything in that area but I know they were there. I spent a good deal of time walking around which was not all that bad.Hey Mou

Let me know when you are in guad, I can help you, read some of my previous posts....

Regards

Mou7189
04-04-08, 19:58
Looks like I may be there from the 23rd to the 25th of this month. In all likelihood I will be staying at the Holiday Inn Select. Not sure which night I may be able to monger but will let you know and perhaps we could meet in the lobby?

Tiny 12
04-05-08, 18:24
i was reading the forum on divas.com.mx today, which is mainly for higher end escorts in mexico city although there are some posters from guadalajara too. anyway, there was one review by a monger who paid 3500 pesos for an hour with a hooker named pammela in guadalajara -- she did upsell him -- it was only 2500 then she jacked it up by 1000 for extra services like bbbj. another by someone who frequents the men's club in gdl, and says arranging a date with a woman there will run you 5000 plus, but it's worth every penny. and that's typical -- lowest priced service in gdl i read about was 1200 at an estetica (500 for massage only double dong -- probably at [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)), and there was mention of a madam who had hot girls for 3000 to 3500. anyway, it's not the stupid gringos like me that are running the prices up in mexico. it's the stupid mexicans.

Ken Tucky
04-05-08, 18:49
Me thinks I smell a rat! Por favor! Por Favor! DO NOT PAY!!! There is NOT A woman on the planet worth those prices!! Putang is expensive in SOME places in GDL, but POR FAVOR! Please DO NOT pay those prices. I've listed and listed and listed places where you can get good service for 400mxn. I've even listed several places where you can get 'it' for 200.

And MOU, I just don't understand you. You stayed downtown and couldn't find any? Give me a break! 2 weeks in Augascalientes and you couldn't get laid there either? Son, either you just ain't trying or you got some kind of a major defect! Even if you CAN'T speak a lick of Spanish, there are women all over the place looking for action in downtown GDL. Morning, Noon and Night!

Sorry, I think the GDL ISG post may be filled with 'promoters' or 'cons.' I KNOW that Divas.com is! Don't even go there Tiny. Experienced mongers know better.

Mou7189
04-07-08, 13:44
Kentucky,

Part of the issue in my opinion is that I arrived at 10PM and had tp leave the hotel by 5Am the next morning to catch my flight. I had only a bried perioed of time to search for a piece of ass. Perhaps I walked in the wrong direction from the hotel? You claim these women are everywhere and that I should have been able to find them even though I did not speak Spanish? I guess I would ask you how I would know which girls are looking and which ones aren't? Was I supposed to walk up to them and ask them if they wanted to suck my dick or perhaps just grab their tits? You must also understand that this was my FIRST visit to Mexcio. I did not want to do anything that would land me in jail or get me killed.

As for Aguascalientes, I think you misunderstood my post. I stated that in two weeks I would be there, not there for 2 weeks. I was faced with the same senario when there as I arrived at 10PM and had a 6AM flight.

You have listed places yes but I have no idea where these places are at. Street names mean nothing to me my friend. I come from a small town in the states that does not even have a flashing light.

Ken Tucky
04-07-08, 23:58
You are killing me MOU. Listen, IF you are a ISG member then send me a pm and I'll be glad to take your hand and show you all the lovely pieces of ass in downtown GDL. If you are NOT a ISG member, then just ask the people at your hotel how to get to Morelos Park. I'm SUUUUURRRE that they speak English at your hotel. Most everyone in GDL speaks a little English. It's a great town.

Mou7189
04-08-08, 13:45
I am not a member so I will not be able to PM. Once my travle plans are set I will post and perhaps you or anyone that wants to meet up, we can make arrangements to meet in the hotel lobby.

Double Dong
04-08-08, 19:03
Oh, come on, Ken Tucky! Cut us some slack, will ya. You really should understand that not everybody are experienced, hard-boiled perverts like you who can spot a working girl miles away. I mean, I speak fluent Spanish and I've been living in Mexico for a few years now but since I've never had any contact with this kind "business" and thus I have absolutely no idea which girls walking the streets of downtown GDA are there "looking for action" and which are not. I mean, how am I supposed to know if they're giving me the eye because I just happen to be a good-looking blonde guy or because they are looking for a client? What's the difference, you tell me. Also, like Mou asked, how do you proceed? And in his case he doesn't even speak Spanish. So, you go to Morelos Park and then what? You stand there looking like a complete idiot and wait for someone to come up to you or do you start chatting the girls up in English asking "how much"?

Yeah, it might be easy for you but you have to take into consideration that people come from different backgrounds and experiences. So laugh all you want but unless you give some useful advice you might just as well shut up. Thanks.

PS. Personally, I'm not looking for any "real action".

Anonimo Gdl
04-08-08, 23:02
Holly crap, I joined this forum to see if I can get an upgrade in my escort list, I haven't read all the posts yet, but for the last couple of them all I can infer is people fighting over where to find more girls! Come on guys this is a forum not an arena. And please for the guy who said that the stupid mexicans like me are inflating the chicas market, then you should not look further than Parque morelos and the Zona gigantes area because theres the place to find chicas ranging 50 to 500 pesos! I'm use to pay for a good and fresh 100 pounder girl at a nice estetica 1000 to 1200 pesos, not the prettiest ones. If I want something better and prettier kinda a tapatia fresa I'll pay more than that, if I want a real doll with a pretty face then theres some Divas in town and the fare goes up to 2000-2500, and yes there are girls that are much more expensive than that, I'm sorry in this life everything has a price, and in which world do you guys live that you think you are going to find a 10 for 500 pesos! I know that everybody has different tastes but it shouldn't be a huge difference when some one rates a girl, 1 to 10 is not that hard!

If this forum is mostly Americans visiting GDL then ya'll should be able to pay 100-120 usd for a nice girl.

And please don't misunderstand me I know how much a nice chica is worth and I don't like to give away my money, I've sent back more chicas than you can imagine and even without paying the "Taxi" fare, if they are offering me something then they gotta stick to it. Its very usual for some people to pay 900-1200 pesos for something that its worth 500 or less but it seems when the Testosterone is kicking nobody says NO!

I think I've rejected about 85% percent of the girls that I've been sent in the past 5 years, and I know thats a lot of money wasted in Motels but I personally like to score with good looking girls and make my money worth every cent. Now I've a list of a really few girls that I would say are worth what they charge, and I'm trying to expand that list by joining this forum.

I hope I didn't offend anybody with my post, feel free to PM me or ask me about chicas and I would glady give you pointers in this beautifull GDL!

Saludos

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Tiny 12
04-08-08, 23:45
Ken Tucky, at first I had about the same opinion as you did about Mou, but after re-reading his post, I think I see where he's coming from. If you're mongering in Guadalajara during daytime, there's no excuse. If you've done your research on this board and maybe the yellow pages, you should have a list of esteticas and know the prices. You show the taxi driver the name and the address and he takes you there.

But Mou has been trying to monger after 10:00 PM. I've been to Guadalajara maybe 20 times (admittedly not always mongering), and until your groundbreaking research wasn't aware that there are cost effective, good quality late night options. I confined myself to the esteticas because I didn't want to blow two or three hundred dollars getting laid at a high-end strip club and wasn't satisfied with the quality at the lower end clubs. And I didn't want to wake up tired and with a hangover the next day.

Mou, I'd suggest you read the thread. Pay attention to Ken Tucky's posts. He's probably a little short with you because he's already answered your questions in his posts.

Double Dong,

You don't have to worry about using any code language. I've never gone into a Mexican massage parlor looking for a hand job, but I'd guess you'd pay $20 to $50 for the massage and $10 to $30 tip for the hand job. Odds are someone will speak English at the estetica, especially the better ones, and you can get their numbers from yellow pages and call ahead to make sure if you want. Or, print this out, take it to the estetica, and point to the appropriate phrase.

Quiero una hora. (I want an hour)

Quiero media hora (I want half an hour.)

No quiero sexo. Solo quiero un masaje. (I don't want sex. I only want a massage.)

Cuanto cuesta? Escribalo aqui. (How much does it cost? Write it here.)

Si la chica me mastubara, cuanto mas costaria? Escribalo aqui. (If the woman masturbates me, how much more would it cost? Write it here.)

Senorita, cuanto cobrarias por masturbarme? Esribalo aqui. (Miss, how much would you charge to masturbate me? Write it here.)

And your question about when to pay -- it's normally up front for the complete service, including sex. But given that you just want a massage with hand job, you might try paying for the massage and then negotiating a tip with the woman for the hand job.

Vandaddio
04-09-08, 08:17
Seems there are some real idiots here that need to take a chill pill!

We are brother pooners that need to get along, not fight each other.

Mou7189
04-09-08, 14:14
Wow! I can only hope that the rest of Mexico is as friendly as you have been.

When I say I speak zero spanish I mean I speak zero spanish. Try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get. Now try that in a foreign country. I live in Detroit and have learned to get around some of the toughest parts of the city. I consider myself pretty good at reading people know all of the spots in the city to get laid. I am no rookie at this.

I guess maybe next time I will just take a sign with me that says 'LOOKING FOR PUSSY" and stand in downtown Guadalajara until either a chic comes along or I get dragged away by the police. What are the jails like in Mexico? Do I get a phone call? If I do, can I make international calls? How much is bond? Do they accept credit cards? How long before I see a judge? There are judges right?

Thanks for the tips....errrrrr I mean thanks for advice......errr I mean thanks for nothing.

Galaxxxy69
04-09-08, 21:07
Wow! I can only hope that the rest of Mexico is as friendly as you have been.

When I say I speak zero spanish I mean I speak zero spanish. Try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get. Now try that in a foreign country. I live in Detroit and have learned to get around some of the toughest parts of the city. I consider myself pretty good at reading people know all of the spots in the city to get laid. I am no rookie at this.

I guess maybe next time I will just take a sign with me that says 'LOOKING FOR PUSSY" and stand in downtown Guadalajara until either a chic comes along or I get dragged away by the police. What are the jails like in Mexico? Do I get a phone call? If I do, can I make international calls? How much is bond? Do they accept credit cards? How long before I see a judge? There are judges right?

Thanks for the tips....errrrrr I mean thanks for advice......errr I mean thanks for nothing.Hey Mou. Whats up. I live in GDL and can help you out when you come here. Is there any way to contact you other than this medium? Due to my job. Which I believe is in the same industry as yours. It has to be private. I'm assuming you are either a Sales Manager or engineer in the Electronic industry here. I work with managers for my accounts that come and visit the city and know exactly what you mean when you say you have to go to dinners that you don't want to. Etc. Etc. Let me know if you got a way to contact you Privately. I can help you out when you come this way.

Tiny 12
04-10-08, 02:03
and please for the guy who said that the stupid mexicans like me are inflating the chicas market
sorry anonimo, i didn't intend to insult you or your paisanos. on this web site, i've been called a stupid gringo and accused of driving up the price of pussy several times. a few examples --

$400 for 5 hours with an argentine diva in d.f. i'd say she was a girlfriend experience except that she treated me much better than my girlfriend -- even cleaning the puke off my face (i was drunk and got sick) before she gave me a blow job.

$350 for toda la noche with drop dead, beautiful, model-looking colombianas from a brothel in panama

$300 to pay for brain surgery for a hooker in colombia. (well, o.k., maybe i really am a stupid gringo.)

in every instance, except the brain surgery, i thought the money was well spent, and a lot cheaper than what i'd pay in the u.s. there are people here, though, who believe inflation in the price of poontang is solely because sex tourists and foreign businessmen are driving up the price. but that's not the case at all. as you know, there are a lot more wealthy, free-spending mexicans in guadalajara than estadounidenses, japanese, etc. some of these people can drop $1000 or $2000 in a gentlemen's club or $300 or $400 on a hooker and never miss it. and i don't really think they're stupid. i think $350 spent on a hooker makes a lot more sense than, say $5000 spent on a rolex watch. my point was, it's not the gringos that determine the price of pussy in mexico (or panama or colombia), it's the mexicans (and panamanians, colombians, etc.).



when i say i speak zero spanish i mean i speak zero spanish. try egtting around in a city where yoo do not speak the native tounge and see how far you get.
mou, anybody who gets into town at 10:00 pm and leaves at 6:00 am is going to have it tough. but you're not going to have that problem next time. again, just read the thread, you'll find addresses and phone numbers here for some places, and you can always use the yellow pages when you get here. look under "esteticas masculinas" for the massage parlors and "clubes nocturnos" for the strip clubs. you'll know the prices from looking at the thread so you shouldn't get screwed. i've been to places before where nobody spoke english and i didn't speak the local language, and still had a good time. true, it's better and easier when you can speak the language, but you'll still do fine. write the name, address and phone number of the place where you want to go on a piece of paper and give it to the taxi driver. have a pen and paper handy to negotiate price in case you're talking to someone who doesn't speak english.

[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) might be a good place to get your feet wet. it's more expensive than ken tucky's picks, but clean, consistent, they won't screw you, and english is spoken. i'll be in town part of the 24th and the 25th and might be able to get away for a few hours. so now you've got two potential guides, but you'll need to sign up and pay $19.95 to isg so you can get pm's and we can get your contact info.


i speak fluent spanish and i've been living in mexico for a few years now
double dong, sorry, i got you confused with mou in previous post -- normally i wouldn't try to give spanish and culture lessons to someone who knows both better than me.

Mou7189
04-14-08, 18:19
trip has been bumped up and i will be in guadalajara for only one evening, the 16th of this month. as usual, i probably will not have much time.

to galaxxy.....your assumptions are close. i am a sales manager but for a japanese automotive supplier. i arrive at noon and by the time my meetings are done and i get back to the hotel (i chose the holiday inn in downtown) it probably will be 7pm. not sure how i will get out of dinner but i will figure out a way. so if anybody want to join me for a beer or two and chase the pussy around, meet me in the lobby at 7:30pm of the holiday inn on juarez. i should not be that hard to find as i will be one of the only gringo's there by themselves wearing wranglers.

i chose downtown versus the holiday inn select as i want places within walking distance. i also like the reports of the ladies on the streets of independencia. i will start there. i am not sure i want to try having one sent to my room without knowing what they look like. i am always so horney that by the time they get there no matter how fat, ugly or fat and ugly they are i always let them in. i have printed out maps and previous posts so i will have a report next week for all. worst case i will find my way to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

Henry Vi
04-14-08, 21:44
$400 for 5 hours with an Argentine diva in D.F. I'd say she was a girlfriend experience except that she treated me much better than my girlfriend -- even cleaning the puke off my face (I was drunk and got sick) before she gave me a blow job.




Ah, Ayelén. Those were the days.

Too bad she can't enter Mexico now.

Tiny 12
04-15-08, 00:23
Henry, Good to hear from you, you haven't been posting recently.

Yes, Mexico misses Ayelen, and I'm sure Ayelen misses Mexico. The last I heard she was in Buenos Aires, earning about 30% of what she was making in Mexico. I think she charges 200 Argentine pesos for an hour, or about US$60.

Double Dong
04-15-08, 01:21
This is a bit off-topic but do you guys have any idea if you can buy Cialis etc. from the farmacies (such as Farmacias Guadalajara) in Mexico without a prescription? A friend back home claims that you can and he's telling me to bring him some but before going to the farmacy to embarass myself I'd like to know what's the deal?

Anonimo Gdl
04-15-08, 16:01
Tiny 12 I wasnt really offended its really hard to offend a Mexican I was just being dramatic, we don't belive in being politically correct here. Double Dong you can buy viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Diazepam, syringes etc from any drugstore without prescription, just walk into the store and ask for a pack of cialis, and thats it.

But I would hesitate about going to Farmacias GDL, they belong to a fellow highschool buddy and his family and they are really into the Opus Dei and they don't sell condoms and other birth control methods, believe it or not this shit still happens in 2008!

Tiny 12
04-15-08, 19:02
worst case i will find my way to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

suggest you call ahead and make sure they'll be open. i suspect they'd close around 9:00 or 10:00 pm, but really don't know.

Henry Vi
04-15-08, 21:25
Henry, Good to hear from you, you haven't been posting recently.

Yes, Mexico misses Ayelen, and I'm sure Ayelen misses Mexico. The last I heard she was in Buenos Aires, earning about 30% of what she was making in Mexico. I think she charges 200 Argentine pesos for an hour, or about US$60.

Well, I'm semiretired from this hobby.

Part of the reason is the high prices you mention.

Mou7189
04-18-08, 14:38
Just returned from my trip to GDL and have a different view on the place now. In the past, my mongering has beeb limited to opening the yellow pages and just shotgunning the places that offer messages until I get someone who speaks English. Every time I have been disappointed with the girl that arrived and always paid 1500 PESO for the girl and had to tip the guy with her as well. I should have turned them away but I wanted a piece of ass and they were there so I always went for it. This time, I arrived earlier than I had in the past. I checked into the Holiday Inn on Juarez arounf 5:30PM istead of the usual 10:00PM. This worked out great! After traveling all day I needed a nice walk. I had printed out a ton of the posts on this site and taken them with me for reference. On the way to the hotel I saw the Mission Carlton and remembered seeing a post that ssaid there was some action right acrossed the street. So after checking in and changing into some clothes that would allow me to blend in a bit, I headed out for a little walk. I found the Med Eseticas and walked in. It was just like previous posts have indicated. I speak ZERO spanish and there was only one grl who spoke very little english but she knew what I was there for. They put me on a couch and the girls paraded by one by one. I chose Katia. Probably in here early 20's and small. Cost was 480 PESO, I actually gaver her 500 and was so pleased with the price I totally forgot to ask for change. Tatia spoke ZERO english so we had trouble communicating. I guess I should have known that she knew what I was there for. When we went into our room she kept motioning her hand toward her mouth and saying something. All I could tell was that it was a question. Now my past at "massage" parlors in the north is that they ALWAYS upsell. They get you in the room and if want this it is extra and if you want that it is extra. I just assumed that what she was motioning for was if I wanted her to suck my cock. I did the same motion she did only with a more detail. My hand was cupped more and when my hand approaced my mouth I put my tounge in my cheeck. She got a good laugh out that one and then I realized what she was asking if I wanted something to drink, which I accpeted.

Anyway, when we got down to business she sucked my cock for a bit and then we proceeded to have at it. She was very willing and I fucked her in several positions. Total time I spent with her was probably around 20 minutes and TOTAL COST. 500 PESO.

No GFE experience from her but I really don't understand why anyone would want GFE. I mean there is a reason I don't a GF. I can't stand to listen to them. All I want is a piece of ass. I could care less what the conversation is.

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Tiny 12
04-21-08, 04:46
I was in a new restaurant and club this weekend, De Santos, that might be interesting if you're into nonpros and know the language. It's in Zapopan on Avenida Patria close to Acueducto. Upstairs there's a bar that seems to attract a younger crowd that might be O.K. if you're Coahuila's age. For people who are a little older and know the language, the first floor looked more promising. We had a booth right next to the first floor bar. I was eating dinner with a group so not looking but did have a chance to observe. During the four hours I was there, I noticed three young, attractive women, around 22-30, that were taken out by older guys, around 40 to 50. The food and the music were good and there was lots and lots of eye candy.

Double Dong
04-27-08, 03:24
Since most of you are using taxis while in Guadalajara, here are some important notes about the prices. This is copied from Wikitravel, where I just edited the Gdl taxi information. Remember not to pay the ridiculous prices the drivers ask for at first!

Taxis are another option if you don't want to try to figure out the buses. You can either agree to a price with the cab driver or ask him to turn the meter on. Using the latter option, there is a risk that driver doesn't the take the shortest possible route if he thinks you don't know it yourself. As always, be sure to ask the fare before you get in. Cabs cost more at night or when they have to cross the outer ring of the city. Day-time fares should never exceed 100 pesos within the city and almost always the price should be even under 50 pesos. The drivers almost always quote a ridiculously high price for foreigners but you just have to be persistent. At night-time, the prices are doubled. As a rule of thumb, at day-time the fare is about 3-4 pesos per kilometer and at night about 8-9 pesos but if the driver is using a meter, there's also a starting price of around 5-10 pesos.

Fares for the airport are set. If arriving at the Guadalajara airport, a taxi monopoly provides the service (about 200 pesos for service to the Centro Historico) from the airport. Pre-purchase your taxi ride at the booths outside of the arrival halls. You can take a normal taxi to the airport, though. The price is around 150-200 pesos depending on where you are coming from.

Gringo8
04-29-08, 02:03
Any recommended esteticas near Av. Vallarta & Av. Patria (the hotel Arboledas Galarias)?

Tiny 12
04-29-08, 19:34
gringo8, i don't know anything in that immediate vicinity -- you'll need to go back to the east, towards the center of town but it will be a short drive, maybe 10 minutes. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and hi class are a straight shot down lazaro cardenas, which y's off of vallarta. i recommend [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) for quality and consistency although price is high (1200 pesos for an hour). do a search on "minerva". the glorieta minerva is east of your location on vallarta, and someone did a review on esteticas near there a few months back. it's also a reasonably short cab ride away. in that area, eduars historically has had a good reputation although i haven't been there or read anything about it in a long time.

Carrigni
05-01-08, 06:28
gringo8, i don't know anything in that immediate vicinity -- you'll need to go back to the east, towards the center of town but it will be a short drive, maybe 10 minutes. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and hi class are a straight shot down lazaro cardenas, which y's off of vallarta. i recommend [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) for quality and consistency although price is high (1200 pesos for an hour). do a search on "minerva". the glorieta minerva is east of your location on vallarta, and someone did a review on esteticas near there a few months back. it's also a reasonably short cab ride away. in that area, eduars historically has had a good reputation although i haven't been there or read anything about it in a long time.i as a local man agree with tiny 12. in my experience of esteticas i can tell you that [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is on of the best (if dont the best) that i have known.

by the way if you like the semi pros girls, try downtown in the plaza tapatia where it is a monument called quetzalcoatl (something like that)

wach the wood benchs around that place, and you will see several young females discretionly waiting for a customers. no expensive and good job (them)

Tiny 12
05-02-08, 00:09
Nice tip Carrigni, thanks, and I hope you'll post more here in the future.


Wach the wood benchs around that place, and you will see several young females discretionly waiting for a customers. No Expensive and good Job (them)

Unboncoit
05-07-08, 03:25
I was at a “table dance” club in Guadalajara last Friday. Around 4:00 AM, woman nearest to me, at the next table, part of a group, asked for my drink (rum & coke).
I let her take it, but she didn’t drink. Buried it in her chest, and her and boyfriend seemed “busy” with it.

Without either drinking, she handed it back to me. Then she began turning around every 10 seconds, for a few minutes, to see if I had drank.

I was pretty drunk, but never stupid, and never touched that glass again. Offered it to the woman with me, but she preferred her beer. Got another drink, and wished I’d had a sample bottle with me, to submit that drink for testing, but…….

Better safe than sorry. The signs of an adulterated drink were too clear for me.

Club was Las Penas, Periferico sur, next to Execs (a much better club).

Always watch your drinks, specially if you’re alone.

Anonimo Gdl
05-07-08, 14:58
Unboicot I'm glad to hear that nothing else happened.

But let me ask you something how in the name of the lord did you venture to those places? , not even a Mexican with many years of experience in Zonas Rojas, clubs, parlours, teibols you name it would go there. Those places are poor, filthy, full of gordas and in sketchy zones of the city, if you go there you are asking for trouble. I stopped going to "tables dance" becasue I always felt insecure, and yes I'm a mexican, if I have to go to one table dance the minimum place acceptable on my list would be one of the Juniors and with some reservations that place is still cheap but you might find some hidden jewels sometimes, I rather go to the golden paradise, Dklub or candys girls, and still always on my guard because you never know. 15 days ago and after a year of tables retirement I decided to give it a try again, and went to Candys club in Av Vallarta, cover is 100 pesos and includes a "sexy" or lapdance with any girl and like any other club all the staff is really annoying they always want tips even for showing you where the bathroom is, just say no, that later you are going to tip them or that you don't have cash. I was really suprised by the quality of the girls they have in there, I hook up with one named "sabrina" its a cute girl white skin, beautifull face, green eyes, and a perfect natural body, no silicon the real stuff. I invited her a drink, 200 pesos I think, chated for a while, used my free lap dance with her and then I decided to hit the " full privado" 20 minutes of sex for 2200, wich was a really good investment, because I got a really good sex with a girl that looks like my Gf and that I could take with me to dinner to any restaurant, to my parents house, or with my friends to vango or any other club and she would fit in perfectly shes educated and I think she got some undergrad title, she used to be a model but got tired of her bosses to persuade her to do more than modeling as always happens in that bussines, and got hooked by the easy money and decided to work in a "teibol". We had a really good chemistry so she have me her real name and phone number without even asking for it. And now I'm enjoying of a new friend and good fuck without a compromise, and for free, well I got to take her first to Santo Coyote to have some drinks and dinner. So fellow troopers I would highly recommend you to dare to invest a few bucks more (around 300usd) a night in a nicer place and hook up with a nice lady, and then you can get a real bombshell to fuck anytime you are back in GDL, probably you might not be as lucky as I was that night because I've to humble admit theres a good chemistry between us, but you can gain a girls confidence and phone number and they will agree to see you at your hotel or motel and charge you half of the price that the club charges for 20 min in a privado but you get a really nice piece of ass. There is no point in expending 700-1000 pesos per hour with a "good looking" escort (testosterone makes us see the hidden beauty in every woman), when you can pay 1200 up to 2000 depending on the girl and yur skills for a real godess. And thats in Candys club, I've gone before to Golden but that place is more expensive, 5000 pesos for a 30 min privado, but there is more good looking girls, and there are some from south america, but thats another story.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Carrigni
05-09-08, 05:58
Nice tip Carrigni, thanks, and I hope you'll post more here in the future. Your welcome tiny12. The main reason that I don't post too much, is that my writing english it is no so extended, so very often I have to use the dictionary.

But anyway I'll do my best to give any information about this city.

By theway, respect to the post of Anonimo GDL, I don't know what do you Think, but for me, to pay 200 or 300 USD for a girl (except if the girl has: angel face, venus body, and Youth) it's a lot of money. If we thinking in girls of 8 or 9(for my tastes)? . I repeat, it's a lot a money. He say they are from south America, it is that the reason that they charge too much? . In thay case I would prefer travel to that countries y fuck for much less of that money with that kind of gilrs.

I've been in Cuba, and oh my god! You can really find a hot latinas with beautiful faces and bodies (9 or 10) and spend much less than 200, 300, or 450 USD by session.

Mou7189
05-09-08, 16:16
Ano,

I had trouble finding a pieve of ass when I first started making trips to GDL. But I never paid 2200 for it. That is just crazy. And you claim to be a local? Visitors don't need your help finding good places. They can go it alone and save $ over your suggestions. Hell, I don't even pay that pulling ass out of ANY strip club in Detroit. And why would you compare the girl to your GF? Isn't the whole point of this to get something different? If you like your GF then just go get it from her and save the 2200. Seems logical to me.

Just my opinion.

Anonimo Gdl
05-09-08, 19:16
Carrigni, those girls that I'm talking about are mexicans and believe that I'm really picky in my taste, and I don't say you have to pay 200-300usd everytime, just one time to go to the club and get the contact with the girl after that if you are extremely lucky you can just invite her to eat and then get laid, if not you'll have to pay her a regular escort rate around 1200 pesos but 1200 in a true beauty that you have previously met, not more scams, not more gordas.

I won't pay 200-300 unless its one of the Divas true angels (not anymore) which by the way I've sent back 2 of them and lost the money I paid in the motel because they were the girls but in the page they appear airbrushed and photoshoped.

And Mou7189 I'm a Tapatio, and if you don't like my suggestions just don't take them. Stick to your 300-500 pesos esteticas that only have girls in the 2-4 range scale (out of 10) or 2 escorts by 700 pesos taxi included.

My point is if you have the money and I not mean waste your money, make some research digg a litle bit more and you can get really pretty tapatias for 1000-1200, but well I'm sure we have different tastes you might like to frequent esteticas like mediterraneo and I would never go there, and if you do go there then I respect your choice and your opinion, but don't facking tell me what to do or that I can't give my advice. In my 10+ years mongering experience I know I won't get what I want for less than 800 pesos, period.

And if I want to bone other girls rather than my GF and spend my money in pussy thats my problem.

Tiny 12
05-09-08, 19:30
Carrigni, your English is good, and I agree, the foreign prostitutes in Mexico charge too much. I have done what Anonimo did, pay big bucks for sex in a strip club, but only once in Guadalajara, in Ramses Mens Club. And it was worth it. The room was on the second level of the club, had glass windows and overlooked the stage. And the woman gave great service. But a much better strategy, suggested by Anonimo, is to get a woman's telephone number at the table dance club, and negotiate a lower price for after work or the next day.

Please note that Anonimo is now banging this woman for the cost of a meal and drinks at Santo Coyote. So maybe he paid too much the first night, but in the long run maybe he will do O.K.

Anonimo Gdl
05-09-08, 20:13
and here i attach a couple of girls that imho are a good deal.

ericka from [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), which is my favorite there shes a 6-7 in my scale, but her service excels a gfe and now i bang her outside [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) for 800 pesos a really nice deal.

the other one is alondra you can find her in the http://sexoservidoras.net/escorts-en-guadalajara-jalisco.html page, and i think shes the only one there with real photos, she charges me 1000 pesos and its a really cute girl with a really nice body, sweet face, honey colored eyes, and fucks like a champ, she really enjoys giving you head and getting laid.

and yes like tiny12 said, i only paid that much once, and the next fucks only the price of a meal and the last time none, 0 pesos and at her place and that girl from candys is at another level, shes a solid 9 in my scale.

Mou7189
05-09-08, 20:17
Maybe for some banging the chic for the cost of a meal is what you are after. But, for us that occosionally blow into town for a business trip, we do not want to put this much effort into banging a chic. We want a nice piece of ass at the cheapest price that we can get it at and when we are done we want the chic to leave, or we leave, and never see her again. If I wanted to bang the same chic over and over again I would get a GF and it would cost be less that price of a meal. I don't pay for meals when travelling!

Detwing1
05-10-08, 00:31
i also had a hard time finding a piece of ass the first few times i visited guadalajara. either i arrived too late or i was with clients. last time there i had a good experience at [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) however.

anyhow, thanks for all the good reports. they are very helpful for those of us who only have a day or two to explore.

btw, does anyone know where to score a piece of ass in aguascalientes? i am down there quite often. however, i have yet to have any luck in that town.

well anyhow, next week i'll be in europe (fkk clubs).

happy mongering

Mou7189
05-12-08, 13:39
det. i would assume you are from detroit? if so, we must hook up as i too am from detroit and frequent both guadalajara and aguascalientes for work.

i will have to visit [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) on my next visit to gdl.

as for aguascalientes. i have gotten zero help from this forum for finding a piece of ass there. i have not had good luck there on my own either. if you speak spanish you can use the local classifieds but i speak zero, and i mean zero spanish so it has been hit and miss for me. i stay on the north side of town at the hotel las trojes. very nice hotel but not for mongering. security very tight there but also very crooked as well. last time the security guy broke into the place to get my chic to the room. see my report in aguas. for the details. i have heard the downtown area is very nice and you may have better luck there.

keep me posted.

DrBrew1
05-13-08, 04:15
and here i attach a couple of girls that imho are a good deal.

ericka from [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), which is my favorite there shes a 6-7 in my scale, but her service excels a gfe and now i bang her outside [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) for 800 pesos a really nice deal.
the other one is alondra you can find her in the http://sexoservidoras.net/escorts-en-guadalajara-jalisco.html page, and i think shes the only one there with real photos, she charges me 1000 pesos and its a really cute girl with a really nice body, sweet face, honey colored eyes, and fucks like a champ, she really enjoys giving you head and getting laid.

and yes like tiny12 said, i only paid that much once, and the next fucks only the price of a meal and the last time none, 0 pesos and at her place and that girl from candys is at another level, shes a solid 9 in my scale.anonimo gdl. the chicas on the web site are hot.the clubs you posted about(candys and golden) are the prices the same for all the girls working there? i'm going to gdl. in a couple months and am trying to figure what clubs and parlours to visit. thanks for the info.

Detwing1
05-13-08, 11:44
mou. fellow detroiter here. maybe we can go get a beer sometime then.

i was just in agua and guad about 3 weeks ago

anyhow. i read your report on aguascalientes. i have never stayed at that hotel before. however i am very familiar with that part of town. i always stay at fiesta americana when i'm in agua. however, i have never once scored a piece of ass in that town. although i'm sure its very easy to get a gf in aguascalientes, i have neither the time nor the interest.

in guadalajara, i always stay at crowne plaza. however, i've never tried to sneak a chica in there yet. also, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and another estetica are not too far away. with that, i will be back to agua and guad early june. i will keep you posted on what i find. in the meantime, i'm off to europe for the rest of this week.

Anonimo Gdl
05-13-08, 15:16
Anonimo Gdl. the chicas on the web site are hot.The clubs you posted about(candys and golden) are the prices the same for all the girls working there? I'm going to Gdl. in a couple months and am trying to figure what clubs and parlours to visit. Thanks for the info.Hey but let my warn you that almost all the girls in that page like in any other page are scams, Alondra is one in a million, Ive heard before that maybe ruby is another girls that is real, but if you noticed like 8 girls in there have the same phone number so its an agency and agency for me are a no no.

And yes, all the girls in Candys cost the same, its a rate fixed by the club, you just buy from the waiters, 100 pesos for a regular topless lapdance where you can touch :) , 2100 for the full monty in a nice private room upstairs, and I think there is another fare around 1000 pesos for oral sex in the private room and maybe a 400 or 500 for a full nude lapdance.

Another strategy that I haven't done in years because i don't frequent clubs anymore is to choose the 1000 pesos service and once upstairs and with the girl offer her 500 pesos to go for the full service, but only offer that to the girl not mention it to the waiter and if the girls agrees you get laid for less.

Guadalajara Don
05-13-08, 16:42
There are a couple of places just outside of town that have what you are looking for. Ask a cabbie to take you there and have wait for you.

Mou7189
05-13-08, 18:38
Don. Provide more detail. Which way out of town would be helpful. I am staying on the southside and if I have to go to the north side it will not happen. Names of places would also be helpful and a report of what to expect when I arrive. I have tried the cabbie twice before with no luck. Both times the cabbies have taken directly to my hotel and told the bell boys something that I could not understand. These were high end hotels and there was no way a piece of ass was walking through the lobby to my room at thoses places.

DET. Gotta hook up in Aguascalientes. Heading there on Monday and will be back there again on Jun 4-6.

You and I must be in the same typical det business? I work for the Japs. I woudl assume you travel to Aguas to visit your plant and Guad to visit a certain jap OEM? That is what I do. No European travel just Mexico about every other week.

In Det. Ever been to Lachambre on Tel in Southfield? I have pulled some fine pieces out of that place. Craigslist has been a disappoint.

Stay in touch

Tiny 12
05-16-08, 02:03
Tell the taxista to take you to Las Violetas. It is south of the city. RTFT.



Don. Provide more detail. Which way out of town would be helpful. I am staying on the southside and if I have to go to the north side it will not happen. Names of places would also be helpful and a report of what to expect when I arrive.

Tiny 12
05-16-08, 02:36
I was inclined to think some of us, including me, had been a little rough on you. Now I'm reconsidering. First you say he's "fucking nuts", then this. Is this thread here for the sole purpose of educating your clueless ass? Maybe this would be interesting to some of the rest of us who don't just blow in and blow out and who at least occasionally would like to bang a "9" or a "10" and have GFE.


Maybe for some banging the chic for the cost of a meal is what you are after. But, for us that occosionally blow into town for a business trip, we do not want to put this much effort into banging a chic. We want a nice piece of ass at the cheapest price that we can get it at and when we are done we want the chic to leave, or we leave, and never see her again. If I wanted to bang the same chic over and over again I would get a GF and it would cost be less that price of a meal. I don't pay for meals when travelling!


Your fucking nuts
Ano,
I had trouble finding a pieve of ass when I first started making trips to GDL. But I never paid 2200 for it. That is just crazy. And you claim to be a local? Visitors don't need your help finding good places. They can go it alone and save $ over your suggestions. Hell, I don't even pay that pulling ass out of ANY strip club in Detroit. And why would you compare the girl to your GF? Isn't the whole point of this to get something different? If you like your GF then just go get it from her and save the 2200. Seems logical to me.

Mou7189
05-16-08, 13:41
Tiny,

What an appropiate name.

One thing that I have learned from travel experiences is that we all are different and we all like different things.. My comment about being fucking nuts was directed at the person who was payign 2000 PESO for a piece of ass, which by the way if you read ALL of the threads, their were several locals on here complaining about us gringos coming into your town and over paying for services and ruining it if you guys.
I live in Detroit and at that price I could ANY 10 out of ANY strip club and get laid. I would expect it to cost alot less in Mexico.

So at the end of the day it was a great report for those that like the GFE. But, then why don't you bash your fellow mexican for bitching about us fringos coming into town and paying the same amount to bang a 10? Can't have it both ways my friend.

Strike 69
05-17-08, 07:47
Tiny 12 I wasnt really offended its really hard to offend a Mexican I was just being dramatic, we don't belive in being politically correct here. Double Dong you can buy viagra, Cialis, Xanax, Diazepam, syringes etc from any drugstore without prescription, just walk into the store and ask for a pack of cialis, and thats it.

But I would hesitate about going to Farmacias GDL, they belong to a fellow highschool buddy and his family and they are really into the Opus Dei and they don't sell condoms and other birth control methods, believe it or not this shit still happens in 2008!


I'm really sick of this type of conservative mochos fellows that are currently ruling in Mexico, for example the Governor of Jalisco made a donation of 90 million pesos (9 million dollars) for the construction of a Church and the excuse given was "religious turism". That money could be better spend in giving food to the hungers, local infrastructure, Hospitals, Schools, improvement of the local security, etc.
In Monterrey a Sex Expo was canceled recently because some mochos (conservative parties, Opus Dei, Associations etc) made pressure to the Government and the reason given was because this type of events promotes "depravation"..... unbelievable.... in 2008.... They didn't care that there are a lot of people in Mty that like that sort of events.
Some Schools books that have information regarding masturbation (not into a obscene way but a educative one) were banned, and also in public buildings Women are forbidden to wear skirts.

That's amazing... this is 2008, we are not in the Medieval Times

Strike 69
05-17-08, 15:43
Henry, Good to hear from you, you haven't been posting recently.

Yes, Mexico misses Ayelen, and I'm sure Ayelen misses Mexico. The last I heard she was in Buenos Aires, earning about 30% of what she was making in Mexico. I think she charges 200 Argentine pesos for an hour, or about US$60.

This confirms two points:

1. Mexican Immigration is really nasty with Foreigners.

2. South American girls (Argentinians, Venezuelans, Brazilians, etc) charges 2x, 3x and even 4x more than in thier home countries, and in some cases (I found this often with Argentinians) with a lot more of restrictions. Ayelen at least provided great service, more expensive but it was the same that she offered in Buenos Aires, however a lot of her fellows Argentinians charge 3000 pesos (300 USD) for a fuck, offer oral with condom, no tit sucking or Russian (even though they have huge tits), no anal, no daty, no kissing, and only one shot on goal, wherereas in their home country (Argentina) they offer Porns Star Services (oral without condom, CIM, facial, Russian, tit sucking, daty, deep french kissing, anal, multiple shots on goal etc) for 60 USD an hour, no more than 100 USD per hour if the model it's hot as hell and I mean it. I found Argentinian girls to be more nasty than Venezuelan or Brazilian when they are in Mexico, all of them charge 3x or 4x more the price but at least Venezuelan and Brazilian often provide the same service that the offer in their home countries (Porn Star experience) but the Che's girls (Argentinians) charge 4x the price with a lot more of restrictions than they usually have in their home countries (yes I've seen escorts here that offer no anal, and in Argentina they not only do anal but it's already included in the original price, it's not charged as an extra)

I have read in South Americans mongering forums how "boludos" (pendejos in Mexican Spanish.... something like idiots or assholes) Mexicans are for paying those ridiculous prices to their girls.
I agree that the ones that elevate those prices are the Mexican themselves because some have no mongering culture or other simply want to brag about their economic position. This situation is often discussed in the Divas forum.
That's the reason why dozens and dozens and dozens of South American girls seek so desesperately to go and work in Mexico as escorts.

And before somebody says something, I'm myself Mexican (well at leat I have Mexican citizenship).

Henry Vi
05-17-08, 17:49
I completely agree with all your points.

I'd like to add that argentinas (not including Ayelén) feel like they're doing us mexicans a favor for being here. They can all go back to their country as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, venezuelans offer great service in Mexico, but they are starting to charge $2,500 pesos and up. There's one that charges $3,500! She is in Guadalajara right now by the way.

We mexicans tend to copy the US too much, including mongering prices (at least in the big cities).


This confirms two points:

1. Mexican Immigration is really nasty with Foreigners.

2. South American girls (Argentinians, Venezuelans, Brazilians, etc) charges 2x, 3x and even 4x more than in thier home countries, and in some cases (I found this often with Argentinians) with a lot more of restrictions. Ayelen at least provided great service, more expensive but it was the same that she offered in Buenos Aires, however a lot of her fellows Argentinians charge 3000 pesos (300 USD) for a fuck, offer oral with condom, no tit sucking or Russian (even though they have huge tits), no anal, and only one shot on goal, wherereas in their home country (Argentina) they offer Porns Star Services (oral without condom, CIM, facial, Russian, tit sucking, anal, multiple shots on goal etc) for 60 USD an hour, no more than 100 USD per hour if the model it's hot as hell and I mean it. I found Argentinian girls to be more nasty than Venezuelan or Brazilian when they are in Mexico, all of them charge 3x or 4x more the price but at least Venezuelan and Brazilian often provide the same service that the offer in their home countries (Porn Star experience) but the Che's girls (Argentinians) charge 4x the price with a lot more of restrictions than they usually have in their home countries (yes I've been escorts here that offer no anal, and in Argentina they not only do anal but it's already included in the original price, it's not charged as an extra)

I have read in South Americans mongering forums how "boludos" (pendejos in Mexican Spanish.... something like idiots or assholes) Mexicans are for paying those ridiculous prices to their girls.
I agree that the ones that elevate those prices are the Mexican themselves because some have no mongering culture or other simply want to brag about their economic position. This situation is often discussed in the Divas forum.
That's the reason why dozens and dozens and dozens of South American girls seek so desesperately to go and work in Mexico as escorts.

And before somebody says something, I'm myself Mexican (well at leat I have Mexican citizenship).

Tiny 12
05-21-08, 15:11
Strike, interesting comments. If it's not too late you should consider a career as a psychologist or sociologist and specialize in either foreign w*hores or Tapatias.

Strike 69
05-22-08, 01:11
Strike, interesting comments. If it's not too late you should consider a career as a psychologist or sociologist and specialize in either foreign w*hores or Tapatias.

I can specialize in French Canadians also lol.

Monger X
05-22-08, 05:56
and here i attach a couple of girls that imho are a good deal.
the other one is alondra you can find her in the http://sexoservidoras.net/escorts-en-guadalajara-jalisco.html page, and i think shes the only one there with real photos, she charges me 1000 pesos and its a really cute girl with a really nice body, sweet face, honey colored eyes, and fucks like a champ, she really enjoys giving you head and getting laid.


business brought me back to this beautiful city for the last couple days and i planned to fully take advantage of the opportunities in my area.
night one i tried out estetica alex located on av arcos about 3 blocks from the milennium arch and well within walking distance from my hotel (located about 4 blocks from [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)). nice lineup and although there were only 6 to choose from they were all solid 8-9's. i chose eva, a 20 year old spinner who said she was from gdl and who speaks no english so my pidgin spanish had to suffice. fee was 1000mn for one hour service that included a very good massage! this lady has very talented hands and worked out some knots and kinks that have been driving me nuts for weeks. after the theraputic portion of the program she told me to flip and asked what i wanted..i told her and she playfully feigned shock but after we both had a good laugh she got right down to business. excellent cbj followed by cg, rcg and a finish in mish. walked back to my hotel with a grin on my face. stopped along the way at hacienda navarro for a very good ribeye dinner.
night two i was able to contact alondra and arranged for her to come and visit. needless to say i was pleasantly surprised when i opened the door and extremely pleased..i was sorry i had only scheduled one hour but for a first time visit thats what i always do. everything anonimo wrote about her is spot on..cute and funny with a great attitude and definitely goes the extra mile to please. all this for only 1200 mn including the taxi! thanks for the excellent recommendation sir!
can't wait to come back!

Anonimo Gdl
06-02-08, 18:07
last week i felt the urge again of experimenting with new girls so i decided to go trough the painfull process of installing myself in a motel and calling agencies.

everything started same as usual,i called two agencies and just promises of real princess but i had to sent the girls back, then i called some girls reported as independents in the "seductoras" website and same bullshit ever, not the girl in the pics (maya and rubi). so i was on my way out when the phone if the room rang, it was a girl from the reception telling me that they know some agencies, so they contacted me with one but i even didnt accept anything with the first one because their rates where 800 pesos for "bellas diosas" wich sounded like bs to me, then she suggested me another agency that has true "modelos" according to them, again the pimp told me that their rates where 2500 for 3 hours which in my experiencia that means a gordita. so last try the girl from the reception told me, "it seems you are looking for soemthing really special right?", no shit sherlok i thought, " i know a really pretty mexican girl who charges 2500 bla bla" and i tought it might be a "diva" but according to the description the girl told me i decided to give her a chance.

i called the girl and the first impression i got is that she was clueless about what she was doing, we tried to arrange something but she said she was busy. so i called her the next day, and again i got the same vibe, i asked her to meet outside a motel so i can knew her without risking my money and time, and she agreed. i asked to meet her outside motel "gran via" and she had no facking clue about where that place is, i gave her directions and again she had not a clue about the two major avenues where gran via is located.

after 30 min she arrived, ive got to say that i was spying on her just in case she was fugly i would run, haha.

but from one block away she looked smoking hot, kinda skinny but super hot,
so i call her and told her where i was, and ohhhh great disappointment she looked hot to me but only in the distance, so duddelny i fake a phone call and told her that i got a work emergency, that i would give her a ride or money for a cab, and she said a ride would be fine, thing that a pro would never do.

so we chatted for a while in the car, and i confirmed my doubts, she seems to be really into this, but she denied it. i told her that her rate is way too much for girl like her, and she told me that men pay that for her service, thing that i refuse to believe. on the way to the place where she asked me to drop her we chatted and i felt the "click" so i began to be more "aggressive" and i parked on a underground parking lot and began to "chat" more and impress her she said shes 19 y/o but i dunno maybe younger :s. i felt who she was soooooooo naive and inexperienced, i kept telling her how beautyfull she is blah blah, it was more like a girl i picked from a bar, so i kiss her and then we started making out in the parking lot and she almost went down on me only because i stopped her i didnt want to end in the police "separos", yes it was quite an experience hahaha, then i told her i was a photographer and that i brought my camera with me and that i would love to photograph her and she agreed, hehe.

so here are a few pics of her, she is not my type, shed like solid 6 to me, i didn't like her face and her teeth (yes,teeth means a lot to me), but i thought some of you my like her ( way way better that the fuglyness that prevails in the esteticas like mediterraneo) and also you can fulfill the "[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) " fetish. if someone wants her cellphone pm me.

and oh i forgot, there is one more thing, you still have to negotiate with her, she really things that she is worth 2500 pesos for 2 hours, thing that i would never ever pay in my life to a girl like her, maybe 800 pesos an hour but after my experience with her i know that if i feel horny and don't have money with me i would call her and get laid for some beer and a joint.

i posted about her (without pics) in the sexxxy provincia forum so maybe some of my colleagues there might work her and let her known that she is so wrong in asking for 2500 pesos.

saludos!

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Papeleria123
06-05-08, 02:12
Anonimo,

Please give her number I really like the photos of thi dalila, anyway after my experience I will tell you everything obout her so please the phone!

Coahuila
06-13-08, 06:11
I noticed a definite increase in Mexican users recently. Any of you guys from the former portalguadalajara website that mysteriously disappeared.

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De todas formas... bienvenidos!

Un saludo!

Coahuila

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Member #4147
06-25-08, 15:38
I will have @ 20 hrs to initiate myself. Getting in this evening leave tomorrow afternoon. Any pointers for a non Spanish speaker appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Member #4147
06-27-08, 06:04
Thanks to those who took the time to pm me. Trip went down w/@ 12 hrs notice so little time to research. Last minute change of plans on arrival in that we went to the Holiday Inn El Centro instead of the Hilton a change I didn't want but was arranged for me so whatever. Hotel is in an older part of town numerous shops around. En route from the airport our driver pointed out & somewhat recommended Krystal Mens Club which was @ a 15 minute walk from the hotel. Get to the hotel a little before 8pm, called Alondra & set her up for 9. Walked to a nearby square for a disappointing but quick taco & margarita. Back to the room Alondra arrived right on time. Just after she called I get a call from the front desk & he says visitor hrs are over & there is a fee for gusts after 8pm, now shes knocking & I say I gotta go. There she is not unlike her web description altho I'd guess mid 20's & 60 kg, as opposed to her stats listed @23 & 50 kg not an improvement given my preferences but cute & friendly so no thought of sending her away. Thought I'd try the $100/hr option & see how we hit it off. She has a very nice smile, great teeth, reasonable english, snuggly, round in a lot of places, open to much, gung ho kisser which is not usually my thing but I didn't protest much. She had a sexy outfit, nice c to d's which again big uns aren't a big deal to me but again not complaining. If you like well endowed, semi thick, clean shaven she may be for you. She really seems to like to talk, suck & fuck & we did as much as an hr would allow. Then to meet up w/my partner for a stroll to Krystal's. Stayed from @1030 to 230, drank a combined 8 beers, 2 shots bought 2 ladies drinks which seemed to include a lap dance. Wasn't tempted to take any of the ladies upstairs for 20 minutes for $200 us. Only had 9 or so girls, most were thick & tatted up not my taste but if you like plump & then some could be for you. Cost was almost $200 inc tips. Raining as we left so got gouged $7 for the cab ride. Next day walked, shopped, snacked. Checkout & the hotel they tried to hit me up w/a visitors fee, $20, I protested & got the manager to waive the fee, this time only she said, last time I stay here I hope, I thought. Ride to the airport our driver is telling us what a great time he had @ Candy's, 75 girls mostly cute. Sounded equally expensive but much greater selection. So if I go back it'd be a different hotel & different club for me. Osmosis Amoebas

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Mou7189
07-09-08, 14:10
This post as well as others have been quiet for a bit. I am heading back to Guadalajara next week (been a few months since I have been there). I usually stay at the Holiday Inn El Centro. I know some don't like it but this was the first hotel that I stayed at while there and I really don't like changes, unless it involves sex and women.

Any reports on the latest scene there? Anyone care to hook up and monger for Street Walkers together? Not sure of when I will be there but it looks like this trip will be a 2 nighter, usually only 1 night, and will be next Wednesday and Thursday, the 16th and 17th.

Would kind of like to maybe get at least one other guy and perhaps split the cost of 3 or 4 chics and have a mini orgy. Anyone interested?

El Mojado
07-18-08, 09:41
Hey there -- It's been a while since I have posted but yes, I sure wish I could join you for that "Chica Fest" you mentioned :) I am also like you in the way I like staying at the same hotel. It's comfortable and once you pick a good place no need to go looking elsewhere.

I can mention the places I would recommend... but the beds are a little hard to actually sleep on...

I usually go to the Motel Lomalinda on Av Colon #4292. It is located in El Sauz, Tlaquepaque in the southern end of Guadalajara close to the Espana tren lijero stop. (I saved my last "nota de consumo" from when I was there late last year. It was only 245 pesos for 8 hours as it is a motel and not a hotel. It's very close to the tren lijero "Espana" stop if I remember correctly, and a nice OXXO nearby. Don't buy the food they sell at the motel, get snacks at the OXXO -- they will let you leave for a max of 1 hour but if you don't come back in that time you lose your room (the OXXO is a 10 minute walk there and back)

The rooms are clean, everything valuable is BOLTED to the floor (Pues estamos en Mexico jeje!), the TV is small but gets a fair amount of channels. They have plenty of hot water and even some "sitting room" style furniture -- only you cannot move it around (bolted down). There are even plants growing at the bottom of the stairs... nice touch for a Sex Motel! Be careful when going down the stairs if the light is off... it would be easy to slip if the stairs are wet at all, and the handrail is bolted to the building, there's not one on the other side of the stairs as I remember... You want to remember the motel for the fun times and sore muscles from going at it hard, not from falling off the stairs WHILE hard...

The reception will be more than happy to call a chica in for you... well, they dial an agency they're "affiliated" with and you speak to the agency phone operator and they can send you a chica or two or three or more if you like. I think it was $800 for an hour. I wasn't going to be too picky, I had just gotten off the plane and wanted to enjoy my arrival to sweet Mexico and whoever showed up at the door as long as they were biologically female and Mexicana was going to be mine for an hour :) Well, I guess I would have turned away a woman who was as heavier than me weight wise and over 35... but after being cooped up around Gringas that are easily 2 times my weight where I work (disgusting) a woman my weight is relatively "Thin" by comparison! I got lucky and it turned out that they sent me a cute, perky 25 year old Tapatia with sweet eyes and even sweeter, natural C size boobs! :) I asked her if we could go for an hour and a half instead and she checked in with the mamacita and the price went to $1000 pesos which is fine and was totally worth it. Taxi cost was included. She even drank a beer with me and chatted it up really well after our "actividad" and shower together. Quite a sharp contrast to Gringalandia...

I am so sick of being around these ball-busting gringas :(

$800 for an hour from the agencies seems to be the norm. I think you can find $600 pesos an hour or "45 minute hour", but the only place I know of where you can call in a chica for as low as $300 pesos (plus taxi of $100) is Mexico City... but there you really are rolling the dice. I've done it and though they were not more than 6's in looks, they came through with 8's and 9's in attitude! Hell, I just love women :) I like being like Don Quixote... you treat her like Dulcinea and she'll become somewhat like Dulcinea (just don't leave your wallet out...) Dulcinea was always a ratera... (a thief).

Jdoggg
07-25-08, 05:49
I have been so fortunate to find this site. Wow. What a gem you have in Guadalajara. After doing some research I decided to try Alondra. Took a few calls to get her. She speaks pretty good english which was very helpful being I speak no spanish. We set on a time and the price $120 US for the hour. She did not make it at the time. I called her and she answered and we worked out another time. She arrived at my room and WOW. She is one hot girl. Not super thin, but curves in all the right places and no fat on her. Great body and beautiful face. She obviously likes to kiss, as I do, so that was great. We had a great time, well worth the price and more. What a bargain. Would love to see her again. Here is her link.

(http://sexoservidoras.net/escort-alondra699.html).

Tiny 12
07-30-08, 17:03
Runner Up, responding to your questions and comments,

1. GDL is one of the last places I'd go for nonpros. Colombia and Cuba are much better. There are many Mexican males who go to Cuba, for the same purpose that you're going to Mexico -- because the women are easier there.

2. Non pro bars aren't a good bet. Personal introductions from friends and dating process is the best way to get to know women, but you don't have time for that.

3. Day activities and tours -- other than El Centro, there's not a lot to see. Maybe a day trip to Tequila or to Lake Chapala might be worthwhile. You're much better off in, say, Oaxaca or Guanajuato, for that sort of thing. You mention you're into shopping. I'd recommend a daytime trip to Tlaquepaque. There are a lot of craft type shops and also some very good restaurants.

4. You can't stay anywhere close to all the action, because the action is dispersed throughout the city. I would rent a car or be prepared to take taxis. In the mid-price range, I like Hotel Tapatio a lot. It's like a reasonably-priced country resort in the middle of a large city, but not located well with respect to any of the sites except the strip clubs close to the airport. Recommended if you have a car. Howard Johnson's is reasonably priced, clean, and next door to Golden strip bar, which is an expensive strip club. Crowne Plaza and Presidente (at one time affiliated with Intercontinental, maybe it still is) cost more, but are nicer and reasonably well located with respect to esteticas. Hilton is best value for the money at the upper end IMHO. There are decent hotels close to downtown, that I've never stayed in. Expect to spend a little more than you would in the U.S., unless you're from California or East Coast.

5. This is the internationalsexguide. It is a site to find sex, not girlfriends. It is not a matrimonial site. However, there have been some posts on nonpros. I've done you the favor of ferretting some out. The argument between Coahuila and Strike may be enlightening. I tend to agree with Strike, but if you're 25 years old and since you speak fluent Spanish, your experiences could be closer to Coahuila's, if you decided to move to and live in GDL:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=733731&postcount=630
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=690670&postcount=533
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=690414&postcount=532
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=690235&postcount=529
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=689228&postcount=524
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=687645&postcount=519

Anonimo Gdl
08-01-08, 17:15
Runner Up,

IMHO and as a tapatio I can tell you, GDL its one of the best places in the world to get non pros and I've lived in 3 countries before.

Actions here is amazing at least for me and with girls on her late 20's maybe beacause I'm young too.

You have to be able to recognize between several types of girls and you'll be able to score, theres uptight tapatias fresas, party type tapatias fresas, beautifull middle class tapatias, sluty tapatias, and maybe more types depending on whom you ask, you have apply a different approach for each one, but all of them have pussy so theres always a chance.

I've to admit tapatias and tapatios could be very close to their social circle and its really hard to enter but if you have to got the skills (charm, look, and money) may be easier.

Places about where to go I would say all the bars, restaurnts, lounges, etc at Av Lopez Cotilla between Perez verdia and Chapultepec, that area is packed with good night life and plenty of girls.

Also its easier to get a girl at a "antro" or dancing club than in a Bar or restaurant, forget about going to Vango or Bosse, because those are where the créme de la créme goes and its like going back to highschool or college with all of my friends there, sure you can see the most good looking girls in the planet there but they "behave" in there because everybody is watching so its really hard to get something there. But there is good news, the same girls that go there, when they feel like going wild go to other clubs and mix with the other "type" of tapatias and go nuts, usually when I feel like "hunting" I go there too, Chess on Av. Lopez Mateos, Mood a Av Patria and Guadalupe, Dubai at Avenida Patria 3 blocks from Mariano Otero, La Follie I forgot the name of th street but is one block parallel from Lopez mateos and one block from Avenida de las rosas, you will have tons of fun there and lots and lots girls to choose from!

Good luck and happy hunting!

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Tiny 12
08-02-08, 20:51
Anonimo, respectfully, GDL is one of the best places in the world for YOU to get nonpros, because you're a Tapatio.

Runner Up, the wingman might be a good idea. One of my best all time trips was to Guadalajara back in about 1994 with a friend. I don't remember if I got laid, but we did have a blast hanging out and meeting women in some hokey Mariachi clubs on Lopez Mateos, eating in Tlaquepaque, and going to some really cool sexually-oriented clubs (Guadalajara del Dia, Las Cascadas, Lipstick, some theater with a live sex show). If I'd been there by myself I wouldn't have done all of that. Since then, Guadalajara has changed a lot. It's become more like Houston and a thousand other places, and lost a lot of its charm, IMHO. Or maybe I've just gotten old.

Tjmee
08-02-08, 23:57
What is a Tapatio, and why does it give you a better chance with the girls?

Strike 69
08-03-08, 23:58
What is a Tapatio, and why does it give you a better chance with the girls?


Tapatio (male) and Tapatia (female) are the nicknames given to the Mexicans born in the State of Jalisco and in a more specific and direct way, is the nickname of Mexicans who were born in the city of Guadalajara.
Sometimes it only applies to Guadalajarans.

By the way the genetic of the Tapatias regarding big round asses are among the best in Mexico, but like Tiny said if you are not a Tapatio or you are not worthy enough ($$$) in front of their eyes is near impossible to taste a Tapatian ass from a non pro.
Guadalajara has a considerable percentage of white people blondes and green eyed brunnetes are not hard to find in the streets.

Tapatian social circles are very close unlike in other areas of Mexico, it doesn't matter you charm or education they will consider you worthy of entering only if you have the money $$$$. The same applies to a large porcentage of Tapatias whether they are Tapatias Fresas from Valle Real or Puerta de Hierro or modest Tapatias from the UDG

Coahuila
08-11-08, 23:43
Tapatio (male) and Tapatia (female) are the nicknames given to the Mexicans born in the State of Jalisco and in a more specific and direct way, is the nickname of Mexicans who were born in the city of Guadalajara.

Sometimes it only applies to Guadalajarans.

By the way the genetic of the Tapatias regarding big round asses are among the best in Mexico, but like Tiny said if you are not a Tapatio or you are not worthy enough ($$$) in front of their eyes is near impossible to taste a Tapatian ass from a non pro.

Guadalajara has a considerable percentage of white people blondes and green eyed brunnetes are not hard to find in the streets.

Tapatian social circles are very close unlike in other areas of Mexico, it doesn't matter you charm or education they will consider you worthy of entering only if you have the money $$$$. The same applies to a large porcentage of Tapatias whether they are Tapatias Fresas from Valle Real or Puerta de Hierro or modest Tapatias from the UDGSlutty tapatias from poor and lower middle class neighborhoods are REALLY easy to pull, as long as you are good looking (or just white) and speak at least some decent Spanish. Try chatting up girls on the street in Guad east of the Calzada or in Tlaquepaque. Just look for poor city areas that are not TOO Poor. The poorest parts of Guadalajara are also the most dangerous, actually really the only dangerous parts but they can be pretty bad.

Cheers,

Don Cascabel

Strike 69
08-13-08, 17:19
Slutty tapatias from poor and lower middle class neighborhoods are REALLY easy to pull, as long as you are good looking (or just white) and speak at least some decent Spanish. Try chatting up girls on the street in Guad east of the Calzada or in Tlaquepaque. Just look for poor city areas that are not TOO Poor. The poorest parts of Guadalajara are also the most dangerous, actually really the only dangerous parts but they can be pretty bad.

Cheers,

Don Cascabel


It doesn't matter for the Tapatias if you are white, brown or black as long as you have money. Money is what makes them instantly horny unlike some other Mexican females from other areas, they don't care if you can speak decent Spanish or not as long as you have a fancy car and can pay for their bills

A Tapatia will be with you as long she can obtain somekind of benefit from the relationship whether it's an economic (the most common) social, political or even an academic one.

I agree that the most poor areas of Guadalajara are also the most dangerous.

Tiny 12
08-13-08, 19:53
I don't have nearly the experience that Coahuila and Anonimo do in bedding nonpros, other than women I've dated for a while. I'd rather pay for it. If I were in my 20's like them it might be different. They also seem to have identified some target rich environments for finding slutty women. Anyway, available women I've met seem to fall into three categories,

1. Ugly women. Her economic status doesn't make much difference. I can pull an ugly woman from, say, U-fit in Puerta de Hierro (health club with California-like member fees), no problem.

2. Reasonably attractive, traditional women. There are a lot of these out there that would be interested in dating a gringo. But they typically don't fuck on the first date. Or the second or the third.

3. Attractive non-traditional women. This is the target we're all interested in. If your typical ISG gringo and his buddy walk into an upscale bar and start hitting on women like these, they'll strike out. If you're dressed well, good haircut, clean finger nails, expensive watch -- all those superficial things --you're likely to do a little better. These women are interested in money, more so on average than U.S. women. Now, if you start dating one of these women, and she figures out you've got money, all her friends are going to want you to fix them up with your rich gringo friends. It doesn't really matter if your buddies are 20 years older or if they don't speak Spanish, as long as they've got money. In fact, some of her friends are probably going to want to date you. This is why you see Strike and Anonimo and some others pointing out the importance of cliques in Guadalajara.

If you're traveling through town and looking for a piece of ass, I think you're better off going to the esteticas instead of trying to pick up a nonpro.

Strike 69
08-14-08, 00:46
Excellent post Tiny you have described quite well in a short post how's the situation when it comes to Guadalajaran women (Tapatias).

If you are looking for non pros other cities of Mexico are so much better choice than Guadalajara.

Coahuila
09-10-08, 13:23
No offense here, but Guadalajara is not what you portray it to be. I admit, that in Guad girls are more interested in money than in other Mexican cities, but that comes with the Jalisco standard of living (not to mention their looks). In the USA, girls from San Diego are much better looking and much more interested in $$$ than say girls from Lawrence, Kansas or whatever other middle town you can think of.

That being said, I am young, good looking, but relatively bad off financially and I have a serious limp from a car accident. Never the less, in the past week I have played with 5 non-pros and fucked 2. The other 3 are for this week You have to play by the rules. These girls have parents you know. If I were interested in girls above 25, that wouldn't be a problem and I could easily pull more. Money is not an object, if I spend more than $30 US on a date she better be doing anal. So, in other words, Guad has some money hungry girls, but they are certainly not the rule rather they are the exception.

Have fun.

BTW. I have noticed an interesting trend in downtown guad lately. The casa naranja, hotel paris, calle madero (2 blocks west of 16 de septiembre) as well as the hotel around the corner from the casa naranja have had some good looking you girls lately. In the last 3 passes I have made, I have seen some good quality at some or all. I haven't tried it because I've been having too much fun with nonpros, but I was certainly tempted. I prefer hours in a motel than 20 min in some shitty hotel. However, that being said, anyone in the area check out those 4 spots. I have seen the best quality in the last weeks than I have in 2. 5 years. Oh and for what it's worth, Hotel Hidalgo has gotten worse, though it was never good. Make sure you don't pay more than $250 pesos, unless you're getting anal or something, because you will jack up the prices for us other extranjeros.

Suerte!

Coahuila

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Tiny 12
09-22-08, 23:07
Coahuila, What you don't get is that you're young, good-looking and live in Guadalajara, and most of the rest of us are not. Keep the good tips coming -- it sounds like downtown is worth checking out.

Guadalajara Don
09-25-08, 23:18
High Class has been mentioned here many times, some things good, some things not so good. I have been there many times, but not for the last six months or so, until yesterday. What a pleasant surprise. The cost is still 550 pesos. He hasn't inceased his prices for well over a year. Pancho, the owner, has really been working hard to spruce the place up. It is looking good.

Now for the important part. I arrived at approx 4:30 PM. The parade included at least 10 girls to choose from. Two 9's, two 8's, the rest 6's & 7's. I must say that if the girl is at all overweight, she loses big. I chose Gaby, barely 20, a solid 9. Her only drawback was the scar on her stomach compliments of her one year old. Other than that - Perfecto!! Pretty, great tits, great cocksucker, and a tight little pussy. I look forward to partaking of her again.

Another good old place gotten better is Blackjack's, on the Periferico, one light west of the Chapala Highway. Great fucking and cocksucking in a relaxed atmosphere upstairs. If you plan to stay downstairs, take your earplugs. Take 10 minutes to choose a girl the gorditas always come first.

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Redneck Roy
09-29-08, 00:31
High Class has been mentioned here many times, some things good, some things not so good. I have been there many times, but not for the last six months or so, until yesterday. What a pleasant surprise. The cost is still 550 pesos. He hasn't inceased his prices for well over a year. Pancho, the owner, has really been working hard to spruce the place up. It is looking good.[/blue][/size]Where is High Class? Do you have an address? I have GPS and a hard dick

Tiny 12
09-30-08, 00:34
Redneck, 2913 Lazaro Cardenas, close to glorieta (traffic circle) with Mariano Otero.

Pvfan
10-04-08, 15:05
Was down in Guadalajara for a couple of days for work and stopped by High Class. Saw Vanessa who was very good in the massage part and excellent about everything else. She did have a couple of sore spots on her back and said it was a liposuction.

Randomnavin
10-05-08, 23:33
Just got back from my second visit to High Class this year. Quality of girls was low compared to my last visit in March 08. Of five girls available on a Sunday afternoon, only one named Vicky was decent. She spoke zero English, but we were able to make due with what little Spanish I can remember from high school during the Reagan administration. Cost was 550 pesos for a half hour (media hora), and she led me up to the same room I had with Vanessa back in March.

Vicky is probably late twenties, brunette with brown eyes, I'd guess 35C-D cups, with a well groomed furry kitty. She was a little thick around the middle, but not bad. Certainly not BBW territory, but not a spinner either.

What I really liked about her was that she was very responsive to what I wanted to do and provided a very enjoyable 30 minutes. She massaged me for about 10-15 minutes while teasing between my legs, jacked me off with very skilled strokes, sucked my balls while I jacked off, then let me fuck her nice natural tits while she played with my balls. We finished with me fucking her missionary for a while before finishing all over her tits.

She didn't smile much but she moaned pretty convincingly in a manner that didn't get in the way of me having a good time. It was NOT a GFE by any standard, but overall it was a good time.

My experience with Vanessa last spring was a bit better. She was able to manage a few words of English and seemed to enjoy teaching me some Spanish while we fucked in a few different positions. I opted for an hour with her, which was 900 pesos if memory serves.

Randomnavin
10-05-08, 23:35
Just got back from my second visit to High Class this year. Quality of girls was low compared to my last visit in March 08. Of five girls available on a Sunday afternoon, only one named Vicky was decent. She spoke zero English, but we were able to make due with what little Spanish I can remember from high school during the Reagan administration. Cost was 550 pesos for a half hour (media hora), and she led me up to the same room I had with Vanessa back in March.

Vicky is probably late twenties, brunette with brown eyes, I'd guess 35C-D cups, with a well groomed furry kitty. She was a little thick around the middle, but not bad. Certainly not BBW territory, but not a spinner either.

What I really liked about her was that she was very responsive to what I wanted to do and provided a very enjoyable 30 minutes. She massaged me for about 10-15 minutes while teasing between my legs, jacked me off with very skilled strokes, sucked my balls while I jacked off, then let me fuck her nice natural tits while she played with my balls. We finished with me fucking her missionary for a while before finishing all over her tits.

She didn't smile much but she moaned pretty convincingly in a manner that didn't get in the way of me having a good time. It was NOT a GFE by any standard, but overall it was a good time.

My experience with Vanessa last spring was a bit better. She was able to manage a few words of English and seemed to enjoy teaching me some Spanish while we fucked in a few different positions. I opted for an hour with her, which was 900 pesos if memory serves.

Randomnavin
10-05-08, 23:42
Just got back from my second visit to High Class this year. Quality of girls was low compared to my last visit in March 08. Of five girls available on a Sunday afternoon, only one named Vicky was decent. She spoke zero English, but we were able to make due with what little Spanish I can remember from high school during the Reagan administration. Cost was 550 pesos for a half hour (media hora), and she led me up to the same room I had with Vanessa back in March.

Vicky is probably late twenties, brunette with brown eyes, I'd guess 35C-D cups, with a well groomed furry kitty. She was a little thick around the middle, but not bad. Certainly not BBW territory, but not a spinner either.

What I really liked about her was that she was very responsive to what I wanted to do and provided a very enjoyable 30 minutes. She massaged me for about 10-15 minutes while teasing between my legs, jacked me off with very skilled strokes, sucked my balls while I jacked off, then let me fuck her nice natural tits while she played with my balls. We finished with me fucking her missionary for a while before finishing all over her tits.

She didn't smile much but she moaned pretty convincingly in a manner that didn't get in the way of me having a good time. It was NOT a GFE by any standard, but overall it was a good time.

My experience with Vanessa last spring was a bit better. She was able to manage a few words of English and seemed to enjoy teaching me some Spanish while we fucked in a few different positions. I opted for an hour with her, which was 900 pesos if memory serves.

Manax
10-07-08, 06:17
Anyone have any mongering maps of GDL? I'm planning a trip this winter. Thx.

Manax

Guadalajara Don
10-07-08, 22:37
Sunday is family day in Mexico. Try again during the week. And only pay the 550 pesos for 1/2 hour. The girl will stay longer and do more for a tip, thus saving you money and enhancing your experience.

No hay de que

Bustaload
10-22-08, 03:06
Guys,

I'm heading to Guad for a week after a week in Monterrey. Can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. Is there some place for a gringo to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish? What about the street walker scene? I'll be staying at the El Presidente and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?

Help me out guys.

Mou7189
10-22-08, 16:17
bustaload...

listen to me. it sounds like we are very similiar. i speak zero spanish, i mean zero. i have spun my wheels in guadalajara many times and become very frustrated. take the time to read reports from 2008 on. print them out and take them with you.
i do not know where your hotel is at so i will give you two scenarios.
1. if you are close to downtown find the wal mart or the mision carleton. they are on the same street. on the same side of as wal-mart and opposite of mision carleton but in the opposite direction of the wal mart you will find a small place that appears to be a beauty salon. i do not recall the name of it but you will know it when you see it.
once inside they will parade all of the girls one at a time in front of you and you can choose your girl i paid 400 peso.
if you are close to the holiday inn select try [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). again read previous posts for the directions but it close by.
turst me......the streetwalker scene is not for guys like us in guadalajara. some may success but they speak spanish. you are handicapped because of this but if you listen to the reports you will have a great time.
post back and let us know how it went.
i myslef am headed to aguascalinetes..plane leaves in less than 3 hours. very hard place to monger there but i have found some success. just hoping to get some time to monger. it seems i am the only one who reports on the scene in aguascalientes and it has been a while so i am not sure if things have changed.
another word of caution.........drug lord activity has increased. you will be alright but do not put yourself in a bad situation by letting your little head do the thinking for you. stick the to the plan and do not try the streetwalker scene. you and i are gringo's and they know it.

Tiny 12
10-22-08, 17:07
guys,

i'm heading to guad for a week after a week in monterrey. can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. is there some place for a gringo to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish? what about the street walker scene? i'll be staying at the el presidente and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?

help me out guys.

a poster located some of the esteticas in relation to your hotel:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=530867&highlight=presidente#post530867

i'd call to make sure the place is open, write down the name, address and telephone number and give that to the taxi driver. these are not open late at night -- they're daytime and early evening places.

i can vouch for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and eduar's. jet set is so-so. i haven't been to the others on the list. although it's not one of my favorites, a lot of people here like hi class, which isn't on the list, but it's very close to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and convenient to your hotel -- scroll down a few posts for the address.

Detwing1
10-24-08, 11:42
i also was just down in gdl very recently. please listen to mou. you do not want to try the streetwalkers. i also stay in the el presidente hotel. there is some action within walking distance (a fairly long walk though).

probably about 1 to 1. 5km past plaza del sol (right hand side), there is an estetica (forgot name), but its right on the main street past the pharmacia guadalajara. the price is 600 pesos. however, the quality is not so great.

the place mou is talking about is called meditereneo (i think thats how its spelled). i was just there the other day. there were probably 10 girls in there. i paid 550 pesos with a tip. session was nice. also, the quality was very nice. in my opinion, this place was very good for the price.

i've never tried [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or hc yet, so i can't comment on those places.

about the streetwalker scene. there are many streetwalkers that hang out in plaza del sol (near your hotel). however, i would never try them. i think a lot of them are not actually girls if you know what i mean.

anyhow, good luck.

mou,

i have not reported in aguacalientes lately because i have had absolutely zero luck there.

Mou7189
10-24-08, 20:17
DET.....How nice to see you have found some success in Mexico.
Hopefully the guy will listen as the SW is not for girngis that speak no english.

As for as Aguas goes.........was headed there Wed. of this week and never it made past Houston. Airport was closed and I missed my connection. Only one flight a day into Aguas every night at 6:30. Missed my meeting in the AM so I stayed the night at the Houston airport...no hotels, and took the 7AM flight to Metro. Long trip for nothing.
Have a feeling I will headed to Guad within the next several weeks....looking forward to it.

Saul Espinoza
10-28-08, 20:00
DET.....How nice to see you have found some success in Mexico.
Hopefully the guy will listen as the SW is not for girngis that speak no english.

As for as Aguas goes.........was headed there Wed. of this week and never it made past Houston. Airport was closed and I missed my connection. Only one flight a day into Aguas every night at 6:30. Missed my meeting in the AM so I stayed the night at the Houston airport...no hotels, and took the 7AM flight to Metro. Long trip for nothing.

Have a feeling I will headed to Guad within the next several weeks....looking forward to it.Another option is you really really want to go and this happens again. If you are trying to get to Agauascalientes, why not catch a flight to Guadalajara. When you arrive there have a cab take you the "Centro de Camiones" (bus terminal) It is inexpensive, they have daily routes to Aguascalientes at a relatively low cost. I think the most I have aver paid fo rhte bus trip was 20.00 US dollars for a first class ticket. For me I fly from LAX to Guadalajara then catch a bus to Aguascalientes with taxis and all it is still far more inexpensive then a direct flight to Aguasccalentes. Also flights to Guadalajara are probably more common than the Aguascalientes as it is a larger airport and city. (cost effective) IF you plan it right you can get back to Guadalajara before your flight departs and get in on some pre-flight daytime action. http://www.etn.com.mx/ To see schedules, times, distance along with prices. That is the line I use, get a sandwich, a soda and watch a movie before you know it you are there.

Mou7189
10-30-08, 12:55
Another option is you really really want to go and this happens again. If you are trying to get to Agauascalientes, why not catch a flight to Guadalajara. When you arrive there have a cab take you the "Centro de Camiones" (bus terminal) It is inexpensive, they have daily routes to Aguascalientes at a relatively low cost. I think the most I have aver paid fo rhte bus trip was 20.00 US dollars for a first class ticket. For me I fly from LAX to Guadalajara then catch a bus to Aguascalientes with taxis and all it is still far more inexpensive then a direct flight to Aguasccalentes. Also flights to Guadalajara are probably more common than the Aguascalientes as it is a larger airport and city. (cost effective) IF you plan it right you can get back to Guadalajara before your flight departs and get in on some pre-flight daytime action. http://www.etn.com.mx/ To see schedules, times, distance along with prices. That is the line I use, get a sandwich, a soda and watch a movie before you know it you are there.

Great Idea and was not not only thought of by me, but everyone else flying into Mexico as well. You could not get on the flights to Guadalajara, Leon, Mexico City, or anyone else as they were booked.
I have missed my flight out of Aguas before and took the cab to Leon so I know it works.

Monger X
11-03-08, 16:46
Had a visit last week from Alejandra at Prestige agency. I had used them earlier this year and received good value with their 1500MN/1.5 hour promoccion so since I was unable to locate my regular favorita here, I decided to try them again. I asked for someone about 30 years old, mas o menos, and morena. At the appointed time Alejandra was gently knocking on my door. She was about 5-8, 110 pounds and nice natural 36-D's and claimed she was 29. She greeted me with a kiss on the cheek and excused herself to shower.
She returned wrapped in a towel and looked marvelous. I attempted to cuddle and have some get to know you chit-chat/foreplay but unfortunately she was not into it. Now my Spanish may not be fluent but there are some things that you can do and say that easily get the point across. at this point I learned that her list of dont's was almost as long as my ex-wife’s. Don’t kiss, don’t touch the kitty, don’t DATY, Don’t BBBJ. She gave an adequate CBJ but as soon as little Monger was hard she wanted to move to CG and after 15 minutes in the cama I was just not ready to go so fast. She reluctantly resumed the CBJ with somewhat less enthusiasm (after changing the cover because it came in contact with her kitty for a nanosecond). I had to finish putting the hat on as she had really long acrylic nails and she couldn’t unroll the hat. After regaining little Mongers interest she again attempted CG. I went for it thinking I could fondle and gently suck on her titties. Wrong again! She then requested mish and I countered with doggie to which she agreed. We got things moving and next thing I know she has her fingers blocking me form any real penetration. I'm not THAT big LOL! Now her finger claws were digging into my sack on every thrust. I finally pushed her hand away pointed to her nails and said OUCH! She made sure the hat was OK then allowed me to finish. When it was all said and done a whole 30 minutes passed by. I tried again to cuddle and pleasure her but she was still having none of it. After 45 minutes she went to take another shower. When she was done I told her if she wanted to leave early it was OK. Sometimes it’s like they say- you’re not paying for the service- you pay em to leave afterwards.
I may give Prestige another shot as I am 1 for 2 but will definitely ask they NOT send Alejandra again.

Mou7189
11-04-08, 16:37
Ok Guys......headed back to Gaudalajara and will be staying the night of Nov. 10. I am looking for fellow monger, perhaps a local, to hook up with 3 or 4 chics and have a mini orgy. Is there anyone who may be interested?

I can stay anywhere but worst case is I will stay at Mission Carlton and hit the Meditereneo. Been there and know what I am getting there and can have for no more than 500 Peso. For those that have not been to Meditereneo, they parade each girl in front of you one by one and you can take your pick of which one you want. I like this versus calling an agency as you never know what you will get, especially since I speak no Spanish and can not even tell to NOT send a FAT chic!

Saul Espinoza
11-04-08, 21:07
Ok Guys......headed back to Gaudalajara and will be staying the night of Nov. 10. I am looking for fellow monger, perhaps a local, to hook up with 3 or 4 chics and have a mini orgy. Is there anyone who may be interested?

I can stay anywhere but worst case is I will stay at Mission Carlton and hit the Meditereneo. Been there and know what I am getting there and can have for no more than 500 Peso. For those that have not been to Meditereneo, they parade each girl in front of you one by one and you can take your pick of which one you want. I like this versus calling an agency as you never know what you will get, especially since I speak no Spanish and can not even tell to NOT send a FAT chic!Local guy and poster on this forum (el Aleman) from posts he is very very knowledgable.

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Mou7189
11-06-08, 17:50
I have no idea of who you are refering to...perhaps due to the email address being deleted.
Although my travel plans were changed and my visit has been delayed a week or two, nobody intersted in hooking up while I am there and finding 3 or 4 chics and just abusing them for a couple of hours?
Is mongering dead in Guadalajara?

Rockdriguez
11-11-08, 06:47
Hey Mou,

I am a local and would love to get in touch, the scene is ok, there are a few good spots, but it depends on what are you looking for, either the massage parlor, which I like the most ans escort scene, to wich my point of view it is a little overprice.

Saul Espinoza
11-12-08, 22:35
I have no idea of who you are refering to...perhaps due to the email address being deleted.

Although my travel plans were changed and my visit has been delayed a week or two, nobody intersted in hooking up while I am there and finding 3 or 4 chics and just abusing them for a couple of hours?

Is mongering dead in Guadalajara?Cuahila is his handle Go back and see past posts on this thread he seems to be a local that is very knowledgable from what I have seen

Mou7189
11-19-08, 23:02
Are you freaking nuts? 1500 - 2500 PESO? If you are paying that then you are running the price up for the rest of us. I would not pay that even in the states or anywhere else.

Guadalajara Don
11-20-08, 16:09
Which of the photos is of you? You are obviously not one of us. Poor has little do do with anything. Stupid does. Only a Chilango would pay those prices. Post again when you have some useful information.

Anonimo Gdl
11-20-08, 18:32
The one that your you are poor is not my problem friend, the there very good truth and girls are worth each weight that payments.

www.modelosgalilea.comModerator, This is for sure "Ramon" one of the pimp from Chicas Galilea, Chivas MG, former Petochas Model agency, etc. , It would be smart to ban him, besides they are a scam, I have called them maybe 12 times in the past 3 years and not accepted a single girl because all the photos are fake. The only good experience was like 8 years ago with a girl that was helping them in an emergency I guess "Roxanna" but she was an independent and Ramon didn't have girls by the time I called him and he sent me Roxanna but to his surprise I already knew her.

She was real babe, white soft skin, nice tits, light brown hair, shaved pussy, brown eyes, she was a ten that attend only upscale customers , she always arrived at the meetings driving her SLK Mercedes !

Well thats not the point, the thing here is that we don´t need pimps here!

So Ramon please go a do your propaganda somewhere else, and not in sexxxyprovoincia forum please because we know you well around there too.

Mou7189
11-20-08, 19:04
poor? I don't think so my friend but just because you have $ would you pay 400 PESO for a Hot Dog? Didn't think so.
If you want to waiste your $ go right ahead but my problem is that you are making these girls think that they can get that kind of $ from the rest of us. You are the one who is destroying the sport of mongering.

Saul Espinoza
11-21-08, 19:23
poor? I don't think so my friend but just because you have $ would you pay 400 PESO for a Hot Dog? Didn't think so.

If you want to waiste your $ go right ahead but my problem is that you are making these girls think that they can get that kind of $ from the rest of us. You are the one who is destroying the sport of mongering.Mou, this guy is a pimp or advertising agency. Best bet is gonna be when you get there contact the Coahila guy I told you about based on his posts he is in Guadalajara, and knows his stuff. Whenever you go through an agency like this where there alot of middle men the mark-up is going to be super big because everybody wants their cut. That being said cut out middle men in all dealings and you will find yourself geting your money's worth. Guadalajara is a wonderful place to go. Good women, Good food, good cigars, good tequila, what more can any one ask for? I'd jump on a filght right now in a heartbeat if I could and meet you there, whiel I am not an expert in art of mongering I can get myself around and spea spanish fluently so I can atleast translate for you if all else fails LOL, but business is kinda slow this year and I am going to ride out the hoiliday season and hope it picks up.

Petochas
11-21-08, 21:21
Unfortunately for many of you the good hill, all the girls of www.modelosgalilea.com but of 50 girls with real photos, and as you veran you are really beautiful, I do not believe that if you do not have even money you to make the ridiculous one buy ferrari, truth? They can say what they want but good looking that no of you to contracted lately in our agency. I never initiate no aggression if they want to erase of the forum this good to me but she would only be observed the little intelligence and much poor woman of the members that estan angry by my commentary. But as in all sides always it exists the opportunity and variety can choose where to contract at to no we forced it moment to mark itself.

Petochas
11-21-08, 21:57
In your next trip to Guadalajara, they zapopan or tlaquepaque the best girls of all Mexico you would only find in www.modelosgalilea.com but of 50 girls with real photos, sex-limousine, porno-star and much more.

Tiny 12
11-22-08, 06:10
Petochas is indeed a pimp, but I don't think he's trying to hide it:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=433681#post433681

Mou, I've paid 5000 pesos for a hooker in Mexico. And I've paid 150 pesos. I know a woman who received 500,000 pesos for a 4 day weekend. She agreed to 120,000, but her client was generous. I laugh everytime I see you write "don't pay too much because you're ruining it for the rest of us and destroying the sport of mongering." That makes about as much sense as me telling all my friends not to pay too much for jewelry in Dubai because it will run the price up. Cut out the border towns, and I bet if you take the sum total of everyone on ISG, and then add every gringo who's ever *****d around in Mexico, in total they don't account for 2% of the patrons of Mexican prostitutes. And there's such a variety of hookers available at every price point from dirt cheap to very expensive.

If there were a Mongers Union and every male in Mexico agreed not to pay over 500 pesos, you're not going to start banging Divas for 500 pesos. They'd either sponge off of sugar daddies or go to Spain.

I enjoy your reports, but please consider being a little more enlightened about those who pay higher prices.

Tiny 12
11-22-08, 21:00
In your next trip to Guadalajara, they zapopan or tlaquepaque the best girls of all Mexico you would only find in www.modelosgalilea.com but of 50 girls with real photos, sex-limousine, porno-star and much more.

Petochas, from Anonimo GDL, we know some of the photos on your web site aren't photos of the women that work there. How can we know the woman in the photo is the woman that will show up at our door? If I were to send you a private message and ask if the photos of a particular woman were real, would you let me know? I'm thinking English isn't your first language, so I'll translate,

De los comentarios de un miembro estimado aqui, Anonimo GDL, sabemos que hay fotos en tu sitio de ciertas mujeres que no trabajan por tu agencia. Como podemos saber si la mujer de la foto es la mujer que va a venir? Una sugerencia, si pagaras 19.95 USD para hacerte miembro de International Sex Guide, podriamos comunicar contigo con mensajes privados. Si uno de nosotros pensara en contratar a una chica, el podria comunicar contigo y preguntarte si las fotos de la chica particular son en realidad fotos de esa chica.

Anonimo Gdl
11-22-08, 22:15
You, I've paid 5000 pesos for a hooker in Mexico. And I've paid 150 pesos. I know a woman who received 500, 000 pesos for a 4 day weekend. She agreed to 120, 000, but her client was generous. I laugh everytime I see you write "don't pay too much because you're ruining it for the rest of us and destroying the sport of mongering. " That makes about as much sense as me telling all my friends not to pay too much for jewelry in Dubai because it will run the price up. Cut out the border towns, and I bet if you take the sum total of everyone on ISG, and then add every gringo who's ever *****d around in Mexico, in total they don't account for 2% of the patrons of Mexican prostitutes. And there's such a variety of hookers available at every price point from dirt cheap to very expensive.

If there were a Mongers Union and every male in Mexico agreed not to pay over 500 pesos, you're not going to start banging Divas for 500 pesos. They'd either sponge off of sugar daddies or go to Spain.

I enjoy your reports, but please consider being a little more enlightened about those who pay higher prices. tiny 12 you have just hit the nail here, Mou don't worry I guess we are taling about two differnets things here, pussy worth 400-600 pesos always will be worth that, I don't think somebody is goign to be realyy stupid and go to one of those nasty esteticas like mediterraneo and bang one of the fugly girls in there for 1200 pesos, that niche will always be there for you my friend. You should take advantange of the USD-MXP parity right now (13. 9 pesos per usd) you have a really nice leverage right now, unstuck your head out of the slumps and go and score something like alondra or alejandra for 1200 pesos you would really enjoy it and you might never want to go back to the fattys for 400 pesos. If you have never spent 1500-2000 pesos for a girl in the States my guess is you are doing quickies with crystal meth girls for 20 bucks in some nasty alley.

So please be more open to the idea of us paying more than 600 pesos for a girl because there are girls that really worth their weight in pesos, we have girls in Guadalajara or any part of Mexico that migh be expensive even for Elliot Spritzer, theres a huge market of pussy out there my friend and there will always be there something for you. In my case I'm only trying to share and enlighten fellow mongers with my experience with girls within my personal taste and budget of course, I feel comfortable paying 1500-2000 for a girl that fulfills my needs (looks and face mostly) and I'm totally against people like Ramon and Galileas trying to charge 1500-2500 for girls that are worth 800 pesos! Don't let your dick to decide for you when he arrives with the girls, just say no! He always shows up with 3 or 4 girls but none are worth the money he asks for.

El Mojado
11-23-08, 01:27
Hey just wanted to chime in on this part of the thread. Certainly seems like the finances are getting strained all over the place these days. But just to let you know, the women only get to keep 1/2 of what they take in (on average). The other half goes to the agency that they work with / for.

I know this is true for High Class and a number of the agencies listed in the newspapers that you can contact by phone. Same with the agencies that the Motels de Paso use (those really nice looking, condominium style hotels that charge roughly $250 pesos for 8 hours on weekends, 12 hours during the week). I have made very good use of those hotels for pre-flight Mongering sessions as they are clean, bright, and have excellent showers overall (at least the ones on Avenida Colon do, near Periferico Sur along the tren ligero line).

So... The chica at High Class who gets a 1/2 hour service gets paid about $225 to $250 pesos. If she gets the hour service, she gets $450 pesos. I would assume the same with Modelos Galilea, though they have quite the website set up. I am very pleasantly surprised with the quality of the website and very proud that Mexicanos have been behind designing such sites. But the whole discussion on price and such here... I mean who on earth would pay a chica $500,000 pesos for 4 days? A NARCO!!! (Or a member of the Mexican Government, Military or Police... que es lo mismo! ja!) Turbulence over Mexico City my A...

But drug cartel politics aside, any lady working for an agency only gets to keep about half of what is paid. Independents are hard to find.

What I find particularly interesting about Modelos Galilea is that they are running on 1 cell phone number. The more successful agencies in Mexico City have a variety of phone lines, landlines, not cell phones. The sheer number of independents and agencies in Mexico City makes it difficult to make it if you only have 1 line. If someone calls and the line is busy, they will dial another agency. If you have several lines available and even with just one line operator you can still have a live voice at the other end to deal with. Out of curiosity I will contact Modelos Galilea very soon and report back with what I hear.

I am planning a trip to GDL very soon... hopefully around the beginning of December. I want to go see if the Geisha massage parlor is still in operation out back behind Sears. They are not far from Mediterraneo (in front of Howard Johnson hotel). I ALMOST went there once but the woman left in charge screwed up on the cost for an hour of service, so I went to Geisha. At that time I had a chica in Geisha named Susana, very nice, big rack, but a short girl. She was there a year leater and didn't recognize me. That time I went with a VERY busty gal named Sonia. She was freaked out a bit when I caressed her nipples with my tongue -- she liked it, but had had a very bad experience with a drunk Mexican man who bit her hard a few months back. Sonia really likes it doggie style and man, for those of you who like to titty fuck, she has the tits for it! VERY nice! She is a bit thick around the middle, but she is very, very skilled with every part of her body (well, I didn't do any backdoor activity, but that is probably available for the right price).

Geisha is listed on previous reports, 2 blocks from Sears, about 4 or 5 blocks up the street from Howard Johnson hotel. There is a large covered "food court" area with lots of great Mexican "antojitos" style food places. I have eaten there several times, great food, great prices, helps greatly if you speak Spanish, but they have pictures of their food in some of the menus so you can simply point something out.

I wish that mongering was legal in the U.S. But at least it is legal in Mexico! Que Viva Mexico!!! I guess those with enough cash can go to Nevada and pay through the nose for bad treatment at one of the "Ranches" - gotta have that Gringa woman "Wife Experience", right? Some of the best experiences and best treatment I have received from women have been from las bellas putas de Mexico... Bellas, beautiful, not always because they are physically appealing but because they tend to reciprocate based on how you treat them. They are doing this to support their families. If you happen to find one that is doing this to support a drug habit then you are better off selecting one that is using the money for her kids. This is not a judgement call, but safety-wise and GFE-wise you will fare much better with someone who is doing this for a nobler cause than getting her next fix of Perico up her nostrils.

Keep it covered when you head south :)

If I make it down to Guadalajara I will post to see if anyone else is around. I am bilingual and fluent and aside from mongering I also like buying very fine tequila and I know the location of a major distributor that is the ONLY one now that sells 1000 Agaves in Guadalajara. I had to travel to Michoacan to get that stuff once they stopped selling it in La Playa years ago.

Petochas
11-23-08, 05:27
Petochas, from Anonimo GDL, we know some of the photos on your web site aren't photos of the women that work there. How can we know the woman in the photo is the woman that will show up at our door? If I were to send you a private message and ask if the photos of a particular woman were real, would you let me know? I'm thinking English isn't your first language, so I'll translate,

De los comentarios de un miembro estimado aqui, Anonimo GDL, sabemos que hay fotos en tu sitio de ciertas mujeres que no trabajan por tu agencia. Como podemos saber si la mujer de la foto es la mujer que va a venir? Una sugerencia, si pagaras 19.95 USD para hacerte miembro de International Sex Guide, podriamos comunicar contigo con mensajes privados. Si uno de nosotros pensara en contratar a una chica, el podria comunicar contigo y preguntarte si las fotos de la chica particular son en realidad fotos de esa chica.We have a policy or guarantee if your flames 30 minutes before and we confirmed that the girl who your you look for this available, S.A. to arrive she at your door is not the one of the photo nonpayments. no agency in the world gives this guarantee you.

Mou7189
11-24-08, 18:51
i guess it is just a difference in opinion but no pussy is worth the amount of peso that has been mentioned here. i don't really care if the girl only ends up with 1/2, 3/4, or 1/4 of what i pay. to me, part of this sport is finding the best piece of ass that you can for the least amount of money. when i hear of guys spending 1500 peso to 2500 peso it jacks the price up for the rest of us.
sorry if some of you feel i not being open minded, i try to be. but that is just crazy money for anywhere in the world to spend on a piece of ass. look, i have been in this sport for a long time and have gotten a piece from all parts of the world. with very, and i mean very few exceptions, anytime there is a middle man the experience has not been good. i have a rule now that i have learned from my personal experience. keep in mind, this rule may not apply to others but for me it is what i have learned.......if i can't see the goods before agreeing to the deal then i am not interested. now, i don't mean that the girl shows up and has to drop her clothes. i mean that i no longer call agencies not knowing what will show up at the door. i get so excited that my little head starts making the decisions for my big head and i have put the hammer to some fat ugly chicks over the years, simply because i got worked up waiting for them and when they showed up i was usually so drunk that the little head said to the big head...."hey, a piece of ass is better than no piece of ass."
so money aside, thanks but no thanks. i will keep hitting places like mediterean, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), etc.

El Mojado
11-25-08, 09:23
o.k. as promised, i am reporting back on the escort service "modelos galilea". they have a snazzy website and use a cell phone to deal with incoming calls. i only called and asked about services, i did not use their services as, unfortunately, i am still in the u.s. for a while...

apparently, they are strict to the rule of their specials on the web. that means that at 10pm the $1,700 peso special for 1 hour is over and you have to book 2 hours at $2,500 pesos. either way i happen to agree with mou. getting your action while paying the least for it is better. i think most of us who are in this "hobby" know that paying more does not necessarily guarantee getting better treatment. in fact, there are situations where the more you pay the less you get for your peso / dollar.

also, not being able to see the chica beforehand really makes it tougher. at places like [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), high class, mediterraneo, geisha and other massage parlors you get to see them first right in front of you, though you don't really have a chance to talk. plus, the prices are really good at many of these places with [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) at the high end of the spectrum.

but when you are in town and at your hotel room and have no time or interest to trot down to a local massage parlor the other option is to call a service like the "modelos". if you are at a motel (motel de paso as the mexicanos lovingly refer to them) you just dial "0" and ask the friendly gal at the front desk that you want a "chica" and they will dial up their service of choice and patch you through on the phone and you set up the "date". or you can dial one of many services that you can get from some newspapers. personally i like these motels because they are very modern (some built just a year or two ago), have plenty of hot water and tend to have huge beds - plus they are cheap, roughly between $250 to $350 pesos for 8 hours. the beds are not meant to sleep in (the mattresses are a bit stiff... the sheets, hopefully not too stiff ;) hehe! but you can if you want, just don't overstay or they will hit you for another $250-$350 peso charge.

but going back to my phone call to "modelos galilea". a man answered the phone and spoke to me in spanish. i didn't try to speak in english but went ahead with my spanish which is pretty good, but anyone from mexico can tell it has an american accent. i was quoted the price on the website ($1,700) and told that the promotion time was ending and after 10pm it would be the standard $2,500 for 2 hours. i asked about the ladies available and he said the promotion was only good for the ones listed online for the promotion but that after 10pm all the others were available except for three that were out of the city.

so, it does seem to me that he is only running on one cell phone. my guess is that he calls the ladies afterwards on their cell phones and directs them to go to the site of the "job" (hotel, house, etc.). he may have his own driver(s) to pickup and deliver and pickup the ladies (and thus guarantee that he gets paid) or the ladies may be responsible for their own transport.

so, someone out there who has used their services will have to post more about the actual "delivery" if these ladies are true to the pic on the website. if i make it down there this year i will try to use their service though the cost is rather high. for $1,700 i could go to high class three times for three 1/2 hour to 45 minute services and there is no hotel cost, plus high class gives you a free soda or bottled water =)

so, we'll see. at least i can say that the guy was courteous on the phone and though cell phone calls are not as good as land-line calls, i could understand what he said ok. he mentioned that the girl would generally arrive to the hotel room in roughly 30 minutes as long as it was within the city boundaries. 30 to 45 minutes is generally what i have experienced when i have used call services in the past (in gdl i've just used the services provided by the hotel - they call the escort service and patch me through on the phone and i handle the negotiation and choose what they have to offer "sight unseen".)

i have been rather lucky with these services -- although you get some 4's and 5's on looks i have found some of them to be the 9's and 10's on action, satisfaction and repeat action! the last chica i got was a real cutie, though!!! we even spent the next days together "off the clock" and we went to the feria de guadalajara together and she stayed with me a few days and sex was fun and frequent. damned it sucked so much when she lost her cell phone months later as i have never been able to track her down since. i absolutely hate cell phones for this reason... i have lost track of some of the best sex workers i have ever had over the years because of their damned cell phones getting lost, stolen, broken, etc... there is nothing like an email address - just wish some of these chicas knew how to use the internet.

next time i get one that i really like, i am going to pay her for her time just to get her into an internet cafe and show her how to use the internet and get her an email address and have her practice emailing me.

so good luck you mongers heading to gdl! bang'em extra for me! :) i hope to make it down there this year or early next year.

Anonimo Gdl
11-25-08, 14:26
Dude, you are totally buying the product of Galileas, of course he works on a cell phone and do you really think he has 100's of girls and needs several land lines? His website is really crappy and has really really old pictures, since it was petochas agency.

I know this guy well and he drives around in hs car with 3 or 4 girls, sometimes he picks up some girl at a plaza other house, and he gets in touch with other girls that have their own "agencies" too to have more material, but those are girls that I wouldn't pay more than 1000 pesos an hour.

When he arrives to the motel, he goes up to your rooom with the girl and tries so hard to covince you that the girl in your room in the one in the pic, he even puts his sony clie with the photo of the girl side to side and tells you with a smurk in his face "es la misma, igualita", hoping that you are thinking with your dick and not your brains what a fucktard!

A year ago I called him he started at 2500 for an hour, and I said "no this is not the girl in the photos" so he started giving me deals, 2000 for an hour, 1800, 1500, 1200! And I say no thanks and he got really pissed and leave cursing. Thats the last time I call them and I swear not to call him again.

So if you really want to risk your money buy GM stocks, Galilea is the same thing as any other agency; you don't know whats coming but you know it would certainly suck but with a 1500 pesos overprice.

So if you hope that you might get a gem like I was hopping too and decide to call Galileas be ready to say no and be tough on your decision and don't let Ramon convince you and also he a true prick because he uses the girl as a leverage when both the girl and him are in your room she will put her sad puppy face.

You might be better calling one of the divas in town for 2000-2500 pesos, whom actually are the girls in the photos but way too photoshoped almost all the time, but I have gotten better odds with the Divas 1 out of 5 maybe are true sculptures (I'm way too picky) maybe for some always are true sculptures.

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Trent100
11-25-08, 14:59
Any mongering, esteticas, independents in the lakeside area?

Ajijic, Jocotopec, Chapala or lakeside?

I have contributed to the board - see my reports on Guadalajara (Trent100) .

I hate to have to drive in to the city and was hoping someone could help me out with something Lakeside.

Sincere thanks in advance

Trent

Mou7189
11-25-08, 15:41
Great Investigative reporting!
You are right about the high price not meaning better service or a better looking girl. I have overpaid for services far far too many times, and more times than not it was through an agency.
Usually when I am in Mexico, I am not there for long periods of time. Two days and two nights is the max and it usually is 1 day and 1 night. So basically, I don't have time to waiste just want to get right into the action.
I have had one agency experience in GDL and it was just so so. Speaking no spanish I am at a huge disadvantage but I asked for help here and I eventually got it. I wrote notes down, I printed pages, printed street mapes, and arrived in GDL a bit earlier in the day. For some reason, I like staying in the downtown area and just walking around. I have always felt safe in GDL. I had mapped out a stragety but on the way to the hotel I spotted the Wal Mart and the Mission Carelton Hotel. I remebered a place that was close by so even though it was 20 minute walk back to that area from my hotel, I made the walk anyway. I spotted Mediterreneo walked right past it not realizing what it was. I actually though it was a bueaty parlor where girls went to get there hair and nails down. I turned around and went back. For me, I liked the fact that the girls were paraded in front of me one by one and I got to choose which one I wanted. It was a great experience and for me, not speaking any spanish, I could care less what the conversation was.
Keep up the good reporting and perhaps our paths will cross one day in GDL. If you ever make it to Detroit, let me know and I will steer you in the right direction.

El Mojado
12-06-08, 10:41
I am on my way down to Mexico in a week or so! I will be in Guadalajara much of the time, but I will also be traveling a bit down towards Colima too for other things... but for mongering, Guadalajara it is!

Thanks AnonimoGDL for the report on "Ramon el Mamon" of Galileas. He sounds like the kind of guy I would probably want to beat with an iron pipe after talking to him for a few minutes. I may or may not try Galileas now. I guess he has paid some company to run his website as I remember it has some origins outside of Mexico (the web engine behind his site). Anyway... if he has any Xmas specials going I might call him up but I will take your advice. If the girl isn't the one from the pic I will bargain the price down or tell him to get out of the room with his chica and I'll go for the $800 peso per hour competition (that is the price I have paid in the past for "room service, sight unseen" and have had decent results with - just whatever agency the hotel called up).

I am definitely going to go by Geisha to see if Sonia and Susana are still working there and I will try out Mediterraneo as well. And of course, I like going to High Class though I will have to figure out how to get there by bus from where I am staying :) So I will definitely be a "ho-ho-hoing" this Xmas! :) If anyone else is going to be in GDL for Xmas PM me or mention it here. We can spread some Xmas cheer at the massage parlors :)

Mou7189
12-08-08, 16:07
El Mojado,

Please take a few swings at Ramon for me if you happen to meet up with him.
There is a chance that I may be in Guadalajara over the next several weeks. I will keep you posted but if I do make I would be more than glad to monger with you.
Please report back on the scene when you return.
Mou

Trent100
12-21-08, 20:33
December 2008

As reported by someone else (whom I am grateful too. But I forget his name).

I can offer no new information but validate what he has already posted.

I was driving from Chapala to Ajijic along the main carretera and saw David's Bar and remembered it from the other post.

As I was about to park and enter a Mexican walking by basically hollered at me and waved his fingers telling me in Spanish something that roughly translated to. Your loco man the "puerto negro" is way too expensive.

He continued to walk away but I waved him over. I ask some questions and he recommended a bar down the road. His english was ok and I instinctively recognized a fellow mongerer and I got him to jump in the car and show me exactly where the other place was. Turns out the other place is on the lake side of the road and is called CRU II, it is about 1/2 KM from David's going towards Ajijic. Since this was the late afternoon neither David's or Cru II had any chicas. But both places definitely occassionally have them. I think Davids has them on a more regular basis. [Inviting a stranger into your car in any country is probably not a good idea, so don't imitate me]

On a return visit to David's I saw 3 chica's none of them I would spend money on. The best of the lot was a medium gordita named Erica. I bought her a drink (drinks for ladies cost more. For me it was 40 pesos and the barman gave her a mini Coronorita. For that.) The girl will hang witch you as long as she has the drink. Given it was a Coronarita it wasnt going to be that much time I specifically wanted information to post here.

Her starting rate was 1000 pesos. Dream on. I asked her how much for a simple hand job and she said 500 pesos and I looked at her like she was loco. A brief negotiation got her down to 300 but maybe her bottom price would have been a little lower.

All in all there is probably mongering or hobbying to be had lakeside but anything worthwhile is few and far between.

Save your peso's and get into Guadalajara.

I had a decent time ith a scrumptious chic named Alyssa at High Class. (See my next report) as of December 2008 the price for 35 minutes is 550.

Please share any Lakeside info you may have. I did the Billiards place in Jocotopec a few years ago and it gets some lookers late at night but it is not really my scene. I have been told they are ALL just wham-bam-than-u-mam types who screw you in shoddy filth encrusted rooms upstairs. Esteticas are MUCH more hygenic. (my opinion)

Now PLEASE someone share more information for me. Where is there a Mascuilinas Esteticas lakeside? Or even a legit massage place (there are a dozen here. That has a chic that will give a happy ending). I would easily pay 500 pesos for a good therepeutic 1 hour massage with a happy ending.

Hope you enjoyed my post.

Trent100
01-02-09, 15:45
December 2008

High Class has been reviewed here several times before. But a dated review is always worthwhile in my opinion.

Here are the details bullet style for your reading pleasure.

1) How to get there.

From Chapala getting there took me forever. I got SO LOST its not even funny. Get on to the Avenue Lazarro Cardenas. Its a main thoroughfare you need a map or mapquest or whatever.

Here is the key. Keep heading WEST on Lazarro Cardenas and pass the huge yellow arches. RIGHT at this Yellow Arch. "Art Piece" is one of Guad's multiple Roundabouts and its a *****. Trying to navigate back on to Avenue Lazarro Cardenas is the challenge. You will head right and if memory serves me right its the Second right on the roundabout. A Tapatio should help me here.

Lazarro Cardenas is a main highway but all the addresses ARE on the Laterals that run on either side. If you heading West on Ave Laz. Cardenas you actually have to PASS High Class and double back on the Lateral that heads EASTBOUND. Sounds complex but once you get passed the Arch its rather easy and WORTH THE TRIP. Stick with it.

Address: Lazaro Cardenas 2913

2) The price: 550 Pesos as of December 2008

3) The routine. The girl whose turn it is will lead you into a room and try to make you her client. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS. Ask to see all the girls.

Bad Spanish but here it is anyway.

Queiro mirar todas las chicas por favor. Phonetically: Kee-Yaro Mee-RARR TOE-DAS Lass Cheekas POR Fav-OR

They will walk buy and tell you their name. PAY ATTENTION. The name is the important part to see the chica you want.

4) Who I saw. Alyssa. Twice. She is a CUTIE. Didn't finish the first time and went for the second, paid again she left and came back.

The second round she REALLY tried to short time and it worked, the first session she was responsive, listened to my suggestions and it was great. It was kinda like she lost her libido and sensuality the second time. The mood spoiler might have been having to leave, pay the boss and them come back.

The previous time I did the same thing but saw two different chicas. If your in the mood for TWO pick two different girls.

Anyways Alyssa session 1 was awesome.

Looks: 8 Attitude: 8 Repeat factor: 8 English: 3 or less (but who really cares)

Overall a good experience.

Hope this is helpful.

Trent

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Mexico Larry
01-18-09, 18:03
i am planning my first trip to guadalajara next week. can anyone recomend a cheep as in 250 mx that is close to high class and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

thanks for your help

Mexico Larry
01-19-09, 19:44
Hi

I tried to put a map together to assist my searching in Guadalajara I am not sure of the accuracy when no full address was available. Please have a look and repair and add.

http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=49.891235,-97.15369&spn=28.068535,78.75&z=4

Lobo 003
01-24-09, 07:14
I've mongered a very long time in Nogales Sonora, fluent in spanish and some what know my way around Guadalajara with the help of a map.
I grew up in this wonderous city, but it changes everytime I return and I spent the better park of my life in the US. I have been planning on reducing my visits to Nogales and visiting Guadalajara more often to be closer to family and my heart. I've never chased tail in this city, free or paid, so a few pointers would be appreciated. I could figure things out for myself but why bash my head against the wall when all the leg work has been done. I am studying previous post to this forum and gaining much knowledge. I have a home in the city so a place to stay is not a problem.

The information that I'm looking for, I don't want to ask my cousins, are there any places in around Avenida Vallarta and las Americas, because my house is nearby and or maybe in the downtown area near the Centro historico near the Cathedral.

Just looking for something to get me going.

LOBO

Tiny 12
01-25-09, 06:44
Lobo, For info regarding free tail, do a search under Usernames Anonimo GDL and Coahuila. While I still believe anybody in town for a short time is better off seeing pros, they've posted some good info that would be helpful to you, given that you're going to be spending a lot of time in Guadalajara.

There are a number of esteticas masculinas reasonably close to Av. Vallarta and Av. de las Americas, assuming you're talking about the east end of Vallarta, towards downtown. Eduard, close to the Minerva, is a good one. See http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=530867&postcount=415 Or just look in the yellow pages under esteticas masculinas.

In the downtown area you describe there are cheap hookers that work outside cheap hotels -- not really my scene and I've only done it once. This scene is well described if you spend some time reading the thread.

There's a local forum in Guadalajara. I don't remember the address, but if you do a search under Anonimo GDL, or maybe under my name for really old posts, you can find it.

El Mojado
02-03-09, 06:26
Hey everyone!! I was just in Mexico and spent 5 weeks down there, most of it in Guadalajara. I had to move stuff out of a house that was loaned to me for a few years in a city just south of Guad and I spent a lot of time doing that and way TOO MUCH time driving in Guadalajara's horrid traffic.

But to counter the awful part of the trip (moving and driving in Guadalajara) I went to High Class on Saturday and there was a beautiful line up of women!

I chose NANCY! She had a beautiful face and I really enjoyed her smile and her body was nice, but not as nice as some of the other ladies. I just had a very strong feeling I would enjoy her better and receive better treatment and my instincts were not wrong!

She had a baby in October, so she still has a tiny bit of baby fat. She is lactating so she is very self conscious about any "leaking".. no problem for me, but she was not into allowing any guy's mouth around her nipples (with good reason, she is still nursing). Anyway... she had just started working at the agency just a week before so she is new to this. She is around 28 or 29 years old, nice boobs, nice rear and very personable and sweet.

I went for the 30 minute session, $550 pesos (they raised their prices, but the dollar is now at $14.40 pesos per dollar!) and I opted not to get any kind of massage or rub down and went straight to the sexual activities =) (this was after I took a nice, hot shower! very welcome to have a LOT of water spraying out of the shower head instead of where I had been staying at which is just a plugged up trickle of water)

So she rubbed my penis until it got very hard (not long with a beauty like her in front of my eyes). I rubbed her back and rear and all over her with my hand and she put the condom on, some lube and asked what I wanted to start out with. She started with a CBJ, then we moved to her being on top and I got a great view of those baby feeding boobs bouncing up and down... oh, man... she was SUPER HOT temperature wise inside... very nice, though she didn't take her bra off completely. I would guess that being filled with milk they would hurt bouncing around like that...

After a while of that we switched over to doggie style and she just moaned like she was coming right and left... not sure if she was faking it or not, but she really enjoyed it and didn't seem to want to stop. Then we became conscious of the time and we finished off in MISH and had a great conversation. She is very sweet and doesn't speak any English. I asked her if she wanted to learn and she said she wanted to start taking English classes. I told her that there are many American men who come to use this place and that if she can learn English she would be able to meet some of them as one of the biggest complaints on here is that the women don't speak English. So hopefully Nancy will pick up some English and you fellow mongers can encourage her by going and choosing her and encouraging her English skills. :)

She works Monday through Saturday, does not work on Sunday. I would have chosen her on Sunday but I had some extra problems that day and my flight was Sunday evening so I didn't go back to HC this trip. But next time I will go and hopefully Nancy will still be there! I will report back if I find her and see if her English skills have improved.

She is not a stunning knockout, but very few are at HC though there were some stunning ladies there Saturday. I have had great luck getting newbies at HC and they tend to be the best service providers... I still don't forget about jennifer from HC some years ago... she could DFK the paint off a jumbo jet! Few ladies DFK, especially at places like HC.

El Mojado
02-03-09, 06:39
Hehehe... just saw that post of yours, made me laugh! No, I didn't do any incall this trip... just dropped into HC and walked by what used to be Jovi... Sadly, Jovi is no more... it is abandoned, overgrown with weeds and the gates are locked. There is a banner over the gates with a cell phone number and it says the building is for sale. Too bad...

I did walk by another place on Lopez Mateos heading South from Lazaro Cardenas that charged $500 pesos for 45 minutes. I had already enjoyed my time with Nancy at HC but I couldn't pass up going into another massage parlor for a look at the ladies. Unfortunately, the ladies in there at that hour were quiet nasty looking... 4's at best... although their attitudes were 8's. I think when you compare almost any Mexican woman to American women their attitudes are 8's 9's and 10's! jejejeje!!!

Anyway, I got their card but left it in Mexico :( but they are less than 1 full block up Lopez Mateos Sur on the right hand side of Lopez Mateos sur if you are heading towards Lazaro Cardenas. They are very close to some restaurant and regular businesses. It was just 1 hour before closing on a Saturday so very few women were there. One looked like she should have been a member of the ELZN, very militant looking and muscular, but a bit on the heavy side. She would have been interesting indeed! (great muscle tone)

I am probably going back to Mexico in March or April... Anyone else going there around that time? The businesses are going to be hurting for action because Cuaresma (Lent) kicks in and some Mexicanos abstain from going out for sex. It is really bad around Easter, though...

I also walked by Mediterraneo and Geisha. They are still in operation, but they were closed (Sunday around Xmas time) and so I wasn't able to get current price information. Next trip, though, I sure will!

Professor 1
02-09-09, 05:58
The information that I'm looking for, I don't want to ask my cousins, are there any places in around Avenida Vallarta and las Americas, because my house is nearby and or maybe in the downtown area near the Centro historico near the Cathedral.

You will find P4P activity in the area around the Mercado at Plaza San Juan de Dios. The streets there have outgoing activity in the evening.

Cesar Riva
02-09-09, 19:10
you will find p4p activity in the area around the mercado at plaza san juan de dios. the streets there have outgoing activity in the evening.hell no! those areas are for locals, and even for us are really dangerous. of course, you'll fin a fuck for 15dlls but also an herpes, vph, and with some luck, even a stab xd

by the area you mention you'll find plenty massage rooms, the more secure way on the city for visitors. there's the barba azul, a two blocks form americas on vallarta avenue, in front of a cousin school. the girls are not that hot, and is a little bit expensive (100 dlls, aprox) but the place is nice and clean. by the sourroundings you will find another two, i think, but i not remember the exact adress: s you can ask for rincon real, is on lerdo de tejada paralell to vallarta avenue, and like a three or two blocks from the americas avenue. they have a poor selection, the price is a little more that it is in barba azul, but some times times they have a really good girls (some times only: d) and the place is really quiet and nice.

personally, i better recommend take a cab and ask for the estética [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), the best place in town. the price is the same (100), but the girls are a lot much better looking.

but, if you want to expend a little less, also, take a cab and go to the mediterraneo, in front of the carlton hotel on niños heroes avenue. the girls are ok, the place is clean, and the service cost like 35dlls.

my advice is: take away from the calzada, is not a really safe place at last you have a local friend who guide you in there.

¡salute!

Cesar Riva
02-09-09, 19:12
you will find p4p activity in the area around the mercado at plaza san juan de dios. the streets there have outgoing activity in the evening.
you will find p4p activity in the area around the mercado at plaza san juan de dios. the streets there have outgoing activity in the evening.hell no! those areas are for locals, and even for us are really dangerous. of course, you'll fin a fuck for 15dlls but also an herpes, vph, and with some luck, even a stab xd

by the area you mention you'll find plenty massage rooms, the more secure way on the city for visitors. there's the barba azul, a two blocks form americas on vallarta avenue, in front of a cousin school. the girls are not that hot, and is a little bit expensive (100 dlls, aprox) but the place is nice and clean. by the sourroundings you will find another two, i think, but i not remember the exact adress: s you can ask for rincon real, is on lerdo de tejada paralell to vallarta avenue, and like a three or two blocks from the americas avenue. they have a poor selection, the price is a little more that it is in barba azul, but some times times they have a really good girls (some times only: d) and the place is really quiet and nice.

personally, i better recommend take a cab and ask for the estética [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), the best place in town. the price is the same (100), but the girls are a lot much better looking.

but, if you want to expend a little less, also, take a cab and go to the mediterraneo, in front of the carlton hotel on niños heroes avenue. the girls are ok, the place is clean, and the service cost like 35dlls.

my advice is: take away from the calzada, is not a really safe place at last you have a local friend who guide you in there.

¡salute!

Tiny 12
02-13-09, 04:38
personally, i better recommend take a cab and ask for the estética [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), the best place in town. the price is the same (100), but the girls are a lot much better looking.

i'll second that -- you can always count on [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) to have reasonably attractive women and good rooms.

Professor 1
02-14-09, 01:52
Hell no! Those areas are for locals, and even for us are really dangerous. Of course, you'll fin a fuck for 15dlls but also an herpes, VPH, and with some luck, even a stab xD

I did visit High Class during the day, which was nice and clean. However, I did find a diamond in the rough near the Mercado around 10:30 P.M. one night, after putting some distance between a trannie and myself. Let us just say that my Spanish came in handy. Fortunately, someone distracted and retained the trannie for me. Got a motel room, and stayed most of the night with the girl that I found. Since I already paid for the room, I left and caught a cab around 3:00 P.M. back to my residence. I let the girl keep the room. It actually was a pleasant GFE. She kept asking why I was leaving. I said that I simply had an interview in the morning, and had to go. I do not suggest the Mercado area to anyone, or even most people. However, there is company to be had if you are a street-smart person.

Cesar Riva
02-16-09, 03:37
I do not suggest the Mercado area to anyone, or even most people. However, there is company to be had if you are a street-smart person.You're probably right, but for the average turist is one of the city's point you should avoid until you get familiarized or speak good spanish.

salute!

El Mojado
02-16-09, 07:13
hey is anyone going to be in the area around this timeframe? if so pm me or reply here... maybe we can get a "humpy easter" group together! hehehe... i am more budget conscious, but my spanish is very good so i can get by with what i find at high class. but [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is very close to hc, as are a few other places in that area. lopez mateos is close and there are lots of good places to eat and enjoy around there that are not "hobby" related.

anyway... my plans are not finalized yet, so i don't know which days i will actually be in guadalajara yet as i have some committments with family in the jalisco area, but i just know it will be around that time so if you area already heading there let me know.

easter sunday is april 12! so let's go chase some tail beforehand and maybe even on easter monday for you traveling from across the pond!

Monger X
02-20-09, 02:11
Will be in town for 3 nights Tues-Thurs. If anyone wants to meet up let me know!

El Mojado
03-06-09, 00:21
hey i am heading out to gdl around the 15th, but only for about two or three weeks tops. there is a place i saw on lopez mateos right close to the intersection with lazaro cardenas that charges $500 pesos for roughly 45 minutes but i got there very late and had already been to high class where it is $550 pesos for 30 minutes. with the exchange rate as it is, high class is about $37 usd for the half hour and the other place is a better deal as far as time goes, but i don't have a clue what the facilities look like inside other than the greeting area. hc has clean facilities and i love that they have lots of hot water for the showers.

anyone been to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) recently? the girls in there always look great but the reviews have hardly been that great (good looks do not automatically equal enthusiasm)

looking forward to enjoying this trip, short but sweet especially since it will be during lent! love those catholics - they'll leave the naughtiest girls to us! :)

Icewood313
03-11-09, 03:49
So is there any website similar to Craigslist for mexico for erotic services?

Or whats a good escort site

Thanks in advance

Strike2
03-14-09, 14:15
I think you are looking for this:

http://www.mundoanuncio.com.mx/

Good luck


So is there any website similar to Craigslist for mexico for erotic services?

Or whats a good escort site

Thanks in advance

Vandaddio
03-17-09, 23:42
Too bad there is not a place to get a list of providers and or ***** house clubs, that has rates and numbers of chica's. Guad prices seem all over the map. And nothing seems organised, however being from canada with spanglish, I may not be able to get the info. There has to be hundreds of little bars and clubs with puntang?

Tiny 12
03-30-09, 18:39
I caught the tail end of Sexo Urbano on HBO last night, which was about sex in Guadalajara -- they seemed to be focusing on table dance clubs and swingers. Anyway, one guy in the program said there was one man and one homosexual for every three women in Guadalajara. Dream on!

Surfeando
04-02-09, 20:44
I will be in GDL April 5-9 if you guys want to get a group together.

Simonxxx
04-09-09, 08:04
hey is anyone going to be in the area around this timeframe? if so pm me or reply here... maybe we can get a "humpy easter" group together! hehehe... i am more budget conscious, but my spanish is very good so i can get by with what i find at high class. but [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is very close to hc, as are a few other places in that area. lopez mateos is close and there are lots of good places to eat and enjoy around there that are not "hobby" related.

anyway... my plans are not finalized yet, so i don't know which days i will actually be in guadalajara yet as i have some committments with family in the jalisco area, but i just know it will be around that time so if you area already heading there let me know.

easter sunday is april 12! so let's go chase some tail beforehand and maybe even on easter monday for you traveling from across the pond!hi,

i am in guadalajara at the moment until the end of april. how are you finding it here?

simon

Fraga1
04-14-09, 23:37
I think you are looking for this:

http://www.mundoanuncio.com.mx/

Good luckHi Strike2, how "mundoanuncio" compares to "vivastreet", is there also a lot of fake photos ?

Did you have some experiencies with "mundoanuncio"? please share with us.

Tiny 12
04-26-09, 18:50
I was going to Guadalajara next week but am canceling. I heard one report that came from someone who owns ambulances that he's transported several people in GDL that had the flu, and a second report, filtered through two people, that 100 people, patients and doctors, have died in GDL from the flu in a single large hospital. I believe the first report, but not the second. I understand some schools and businesses will close next week and traffic in the malls is way down.

I may be paranoid, but wonder if there are a couple of considerations for people like us -- could you travel to Mexico and then get stuck there because some kind of a quarantine on flights between there and the extranjero? And do you really want to be kissing a prostitute when there's a flu epidemic, with high fatality rates, going around?

Big Johnson2
05-02-09, 15:51
I'm looking to meet a local girl to travel with to see the Colonial Cities. I don't speak Spanish, so how easy is it to get a girl to be your "girl friend" to travel with. I see there is some dating company that arranges trips to find wives to GDL. I don't care if she is from that of P4P, just want to know what my possibilities are. If P4P how much would it cost per day?

Tiny 12
05-03-09, 20:39
I'm looking to meet a local girl to travel with to see the Colonial Cities. I don't speak Spanish, so how easy is it to get a girl to be your "girl friend" to travel with. I see there is some dating company that arranges trips to find wives to GDL. I don't care if she is from that of P4P, just want to know what my possibilities are. If P4P how much would it cost per day?

I think you're going to have a tough time. You might try contacting a lot of women on something like cybercupido.com or amigos.com. Maybe you'll come across an English speaker that would have spare time and might be willing to travel with you after she's met you in person.

Udo D
05-05-09, 21:35
Any advice whatsoever for paying for action in Ajijic? I am really not interested in going to any of the 3 aforementioned brothels in the Lakeside area, so isn't there a way to just call up an escort service for a reasonable $500 pesos or so? I checked Models Galilena or soemthing and Zona Divas but they seem to be stupidly pricy and the call girls all seem to be located in Guadalajara. Any tips would be really appreciated. There is a lot of retiree money down here and if someone could put together a door-to-door service in Ajijic or neighboring Chapala, there's a lot of money to be had.

Al1800
06-15-09, 23:59
You made mention of 3 brothels in the Lakeside area. Search as I might I couldn't find reference to them. Could you elaborate please?


Any advice whatsoever for paying for action in Ajijic? I am really not interested in going to any of the 3 aforementioned brothels in the Lakeside area,

Udo D
06-19-09, 21:51
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=687409&highlight=mongering+ajijic#post687409

Saul Espinoza
06-30-09, 01:12
Finally I am planning a trip to Guadalajara, planning eating some good food, smoking some good cigars, and drinking some good tequila, and last but not least nailng some hot Mexicanas. Question fellas, I plan on checking out all the spots Eteticas etc. But I need some input what hotels are Okay with you taking a lady friend upstairs to your room? I was planning on staying at one of these, Quinta Real, Hillton, camino Real? Hotel Morelos Historic District, or any of the Holiyday Inns? Fiesta Americana? (whichever gives me more room and luxury for my money). I want to stay some where nice (or decent) as I don't travel often, and the times I do want to enjoy it. Which nice hotels are lady-friendly? I haven't stayed at any of them before and past trips I was staying at a relatives. Any input would greatly be appreciated. I have heard stories of guys having to make a "walk of shame" or even get paged in the room demanding the lady leave. I don't want that to happen. Help.