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Coyote79
04-25-07, 19:11
offer a prayer to God above for Juarez.

Because this is what mongers would be paying for if there were no Juarez. . .
http://elpaso.craigslist.org/ers/318517466.html

BTW, this is the only actual escort posting on Craigslist for El Paso for in the past few weeks. Almost everything else is a cam scam.

WTF? Other cities' Craigslists have actual escort ads.

Mugroso
04-25-07, 22:35
offer a prayer to God above for Juarez.

Because this is what mongers would be paying for if there were no Juarez. . .
Not worth repeating

BTW, this is the only actual escort posting on Craigslist for El Paso for in the past few weeks. Almost everything else is a cam scam.

WTF? Other cities' Craigslists have actual escort ads.

That is insane. You claim it is an actual escort posting but I think it has to be a joke, someone has a sense of humor. It can't be real. If it is real it is sad to see it is as good as it gets.

Mugroso

Bbond
04-25-07, 23:28
That is insane. You claim it is an actual escort posting but I think it has to be a joke, someone has a sense of humor. It can't be real. If it is real it is sad to see it is as good as it gets.

Mugroso

No, not a joke, you should see some of the reviewed girls from Austin, (reviewed from another board) that also advertise on CL.

Viva Mexico. Juarez, Acuña, Piedras Negras, TJ, Nuevo Lardeo, Reynosa, et al.
I went to Juarez for years,(still do) but now Nuevo Laredo is my choice destination. If you Juarez guys have never ventured to other locations, you owe it to yourself to do so.

Cienega32
04-25-07, 23:34
offer a prayer to God above for Juarez.

Because this is what mongers would be paying for if there were no Juarez. . .
http://elpaso.craigslist.org/ers/318517466.html

BTW, this is the only actual escort posting on Craigslist for El Paso for in the past few weeks. Almost everything else is a cam scam.

WTF? Other cities' Craigslists have actual escort ads.
At least El Paso HAS a Craigslist. Poor Las Cruces...

Las Vegas has a lot less ads now that they came down on the AAMPs out there for trafficking. At least it seems that way to me, being my 2 favorites are no more...

I told Lucy to stay off that damn thing.

Starboat
04-26-07, 05:41
Sorry for the wrong info earlier in the week. Soraya, told me this afternoon she will open Friday around 11am. I think there has been a few problems with other MP being closed also. Sounds like goverment wanting more $. There is a beautiful new girl at Luxxor. Maryanne, tall, thin, great ass, and a really beautiful face. Age 21. I highly recommend. Have spoken to Stuart about the upcharging and reports of bad attitude with his girls and tells me this will change for the better. Will check at 11:00am then post here if Luxxor re-opens as scheduled.

Bbplays
04-28-07, 03:30
I think we should declare this Saturday, April 28, Puta Appreciation Night. Downtown Juarez is going to be history soon and I think we should have one last get together before its all gone. So far the Noche y Dia and Irma's Bar have bitten the dust and are now nothing but rubble.

I have met some great guys on past MongerPaloozas and it would be great to see them again and meet more this coming Saturday. If you are unable to come lets do this. At 7pm Mountain Time lets all raise a beer, tequila, soda, milk, tea, whatever in honor of all the putas we have known over the years.

If anyone is in town or near by PM me for details on when and where to meet. Otherwise a collective toast at 7pm Saturday would be cool.

MugrosoWhere the place and time in CJ, will be there around 3 or 4.

Can't PM

BB

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Hi Bbplays,

Do you mean that a sophisticated world traveler such as yourself can't afford a $13 subscription to support this forum and all the work I do to keep it maintained?

Come on dude, a forum subscription is less than 50 cents a week.

Thanks,

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Bbplays
04-28-07, 14:08
Do you mean that a sophisticated world traveler such as yourself can't afford a $13 subscription to support this forum and all the work I do to keep it maintained?

Come on dude, a forum subscription is less than 50 cents a week.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]OK Jackson, you embarrassed me into subscribing.

Now get it turned on so I can go party tonite!

Coyote79
04-28-07, 15:43
Chose Fernanda--light skinned petite--20 something years old.

She was fucking awesome.

Coyote79
04-28-07, 15:47
Looking at Mug's map, it's on Hermanos Escobar near Sirenas.
Is that correct?
Because I don't remember seeing it.

Mugroso
04-28-07, 15:54
Chose Fernanda--light skinned petite--20 something years old.

She was fucking awesome.

I wonder if this is the same Fernanda of Tiffanys fame.

Mugroso

Cienega32
04-28-07, 18:31
Looking at Mug's map, it's on Hermanos Escobar near Sirenas.
Is that correct?
Because I don't remember seeing it.
Just east of the Park that's east of Sirena's. Same side of the road.


http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31744391&x=-106460888&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2

Mugroso
04-28-07, 19:21
Just east of the Park that's east of Sirena's. Same side of the road.


http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31744391&x=-106460888&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2

I did not know this. A replica in Juarez of that chalk horse somewhere in Europe.

http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31662623&x=-106594377&z=15&l=0&m=a&v=2

Coyote79
04-28-07, 19:57
Just east of the Park that's east of Sirena's. Same side of the road.


http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31744391&x=-106460888&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2
thanks I should be able to find it now. . .

Coyote79
04-29-07, 15:26
Doesn't anyone know what happened to that smokin' 18 yo that use to work there? Can't remember her name, but she was there last Xmas when I was home.

Last three times I visited Cleo's she hasn't been there.

Had to settle for 30 yo chunky lady.
Good service, but banging a chunky lady is like kissing your sister.

Cienega32
04-30-07, 05:33
I think we should declare this Saturday, April 28, Puta Appreciation Night. Downtown Juarez is going to be history soon and I think we should have one last get together before its all gone. So far the Noche y Dia and Irma's Bar have bitten the dust and are now nothing but rubble.
So how did it go?

Any other clubs come down?



I was going to go but I just put a new hat on the Fortress of Solitude and needed to check it with the rain.

Justsomeim
04-30-07, 22:27
I have been to Parasio at least 6 or 7 times in the past 6 months and I have never paid more that. 35. Are you talking about the one right off of the Bridge of the Americas or the one closer to downtown. I goto the one right off the bridge.


Chose Fernanda--light skinned petite--20 something years old.

She was fucking awesome.

Bbond
04-30-07, 23:14
I have been to Parasio at least 6 or 7 times in the past 6 months and I have never paid more that. 35. Are you talking about the one right off of the Bridge of the Americas or the one closer to downtown. I goto the one right off the bridge.

In the recent past, I have paid $20, $30, $35, and even $40. Just depends on when you go and who you see.
The one right off the free bridge is where I refer to.

Coyote79
05-01-07, 13:33
I have been to Parasio at least 6 or 7 times in the past 6 months and I have never paid more that. 35. Are you talking about the one right off of the Bridge of the Americas or the one closer to downtown. I goto the one right off the bridge.
yeah dude the one right off the bridge.

Some young manager guy, who spoke English like an American, quoted me the $40 price.

I was surprised too. . .but I don't negotiate with them because whenever I pay $30 I get rushed--e.g. Michel's.

Espina Heart
05-01-07, 15:30
Some young manager guy, who spoke English like an American, quoted me the $40 price.

I was surprised too. . .but I don't negotiate with them because whenever I pay $30 I get rushed--e.g. Michel's.

$20-$40. Whatever. Like the the Juarez-omnipotent Mug, however, I gotta KNOW if this is the fabulous fantastic Fernanda of Tiffanys fame. 20 something and petite sounds right. Black wavy to curly hair? Cute black fuzz in the right places? Loves to suck and gladly accepts CIM if she smells a tip? Man I got into such a Fernanda rut back in the Tiffany days. I didn't want anything else. Would love to know if she's back out giving her all.

Btw, a second Paraiso closer to downtown? I know nothing. Enlightenment, as always, is appreciated.

Coyote79
05-01-07, 18:51
$20-$40. Whatever. Like the the Juarez-omnipotent Mug, however, I gotta KNOW if this is the fabulous fantastic Fernanda of Tiffanys fame. 20 something and petite sounds right. Black wavy to curly hair? Cute black fuzz in the right places? Loves to suck and gladly accepts CIM if she smells a tip? Man I got into such a Fernanda rut back in the Tiffany days. I didn't want anything else. Would love to know if she's back out giving her all.

Btw, a second Paraiso closer to downtown? I know nothing. Enlightenment, as always, is appreciated.
I was at Tiffany's about three times, but I never saw her there.
(I stopped going because they rushed me)

Anyway, since everyone wants to figure out this mystery,
let me post everything I can remember about her. . .

Fernanda is. . .
***20 something
***very light skinned
***dark hair to her back
***a little hyper & nervous
***trimmed kitty
***very petite--"A" cup
***doesn't know a word of English

She’s my type, plus she's passionate & accommodating.
That’s why liked her so much.

Starboat
05-02-07, 07:23
THis is the third time I have written that the Luxxor has re-opened , but Stuart called tonight to tell me they finally were open. Will go over tommorrow afternoon and give a report.

Gallo Ingles
05-02-07, 12:39
The other day I visited Sirena and enjoyed the company of Paloma. Although she is not really my type, I found her to be a great masseuse. Nice firm touch, relieving all of my stress with her hands.

My question: Has anyone else had a truly good massage as well as a good sexual experience?

Most of the ladies I have been with have been totally lame with the massage. I enjoy that relaxing feeling of a woman's hands kneading my body all over.

Firebird
05-02-07, 12:54
The other day I visited Sirena and enjoyed the company of Paloma. Although she is not really my type, I found her to be a great masseuse. Nice firm touch, relieving all of my stress with her hands.

My question: Has anyone else had a truly good massage as well as a good sexual experience?

Most of the ladies I have been with have been totally lame with the massage. I enjoy that relaxing feeling of a woman's hands kneading my body all over.

Go to the Far East - Malaysia, China, Japan, Hong Kong, Thailand - you will get a fantastic massage and GFE experience.

Espina Heart
05-02-07, 15:16
Anyway, since everyone wants to figure out this mystery,
let me post everything I can remember about her. . .

Fernanda is. . .

Thanks Coyote. Hard to say, but is definitely a possibility. I've never heard a good report here about Paraiso, so I've never been. Methinks this might be changing.

spine

Mugroso
05-02-07, 16:01
My question: Has anyone else had a truly good massage as well as a good sexual experience?

At about '97-'98, Perla at the Paraiso (when it was good) would give the best massages ever. Firm hands and she left not one spot untouched. While on my back she would rub me down and then lightly drag her fingernails all over my back then flip me over and rub me down. She even did my feet, toes, arms and fingers. She would finish with my face. The best ever. The sex was ok, she prefered doggie more than anything else.

Paraiso was my first experiences at an MP and my first experiences with an upsell but not what you think. I don't know what the other MPs offered but at Paraiso it was 25 for one hour massage and thats it. No sex. But for 40 sex was included.

Perla wound up opening her own MP down on De La Raza but was quickly shut down when she was busted at the border for something or another and did some jail time. I miss her massages.

Mugroso

Mugroso
05-03-07, 06:11
So how did it go?
Any other clubs come down?
I was going to go but I just put a new hat on the Fortress of Solitude and needed to check it with the rain.

Well we all met at the appointed place at the appointed time. We chatted a bit, catching up, exchanging "war" stories and then headed off to the Casa Colorada. I'll be damned if this place didn't have some lookers for a change. Thick lipped Alejandra, who used to work at Luxxor's and then Sirenas was there looking as sexy as ever. There was one hotty that had one hell of a body on her but when I got a closer look it was that snake, Letty #1(?). Blah, I turned my head to avoid eye contact, she is a pain in the ass. If any one wants to hit this place, go before the trucker riff raff and those van assholes get there and soil the sweet little angels that work there.

Next we headed off to Aldo's, where the old Pink Ladies used to be. We left as soon as we got there. Not much to report.

We then headed down Ugarte St. to Las Palmeras. Again, a loser of a night. So sad.

Since we went to one brothel why not another? Panama was serverly lacking customers as well as chicas but the chicas that were there were doable so we stayed. Jessie, who I believe has gotten good reviews was on duty along with her beer bellied sister. She gave a great bar top dance from what I could see, I was being distracted by Michelle who had been harassing me from the time we got in. I bought her a drink and she table danced for me but I preferred she sit on my lap so we could talk about the weather. When her drink arrived I paid, she stood up and I kissed her belly. She called me a culo and got mad and left. What the fuck? I still don't get it.

So we left and strolled the streets and wound up at Año Nuevo. Minnie was on duty and as perky as ever. She is so angelic and sweet.

We went our seperate ways to persue our own pursuits.

You know, it sounds pretty uneventful, but it is the friendships that have formed since the first Mongerpalooza 3 years ago that I appreciate the most. We didn't have any new members in attendance, which would have been nice but Clydesdale and Gentleman Monger are a great pair to hit the streets with. I you ever get the chance to meet them, don't let it pass you by.

Mugroso

Mugroso
05-03-07, 06:30
So the rain did me a favor today. I kept me from going out early in the afternoon to Juarez for a massage. How so? If I had gone early I may have possibly not meet Fernanda.

I head over the bridge, light traffic and make a beeline to the Paraiso. I walk in and was greeted by 2, then 3 ladies. 2 were passable.

One cutie gave me a run down on prices, services, blah, blah, blah. Then came the introductions. I don't remember the first 2 names but the cutie giving the routine and said, "Fernanda". That was all I needed to hear.

I remember hearing good reviews about a Fernanda at Tiffanys and damn it, she was never there when I went. Then she went MIA and I forgot all about it until Coyote79 recently reported about her. Then the inquiries, descriptions doing nothing but adding to the mystery. I had to find out.

When she began the massage we made some small talk and I asked her if she used to work at Tiffanys. I expected to hear an innocent, "No, who me? This is my first time". But no, she confirmed her identity and I placed my head back on the towel and smiled.

Great massage, not as good as Perla's as I have previously mentioned but it was as good as it gets now a days. She even did my little toes, my little fingers, my little, umm, big monster of destruction. She must have been shy to rub my ass (cheeks) so she didn't spend to much time there.

The sex was great, got on top and gave me a peck on the cheek before inserting me. Nice touch. She had a nice tight little pussy, hard to belive she has had at least one kid (didn't ask). 2 positions was all I could muster up for this session, she just looked too good riding Mug jr. and then so submissive under me. We made more small talk and I barely heard the word propina (tip) and there I am reaching for my wallet handing over a 10 spot. I did not notice this until leaving. I thought, "what the fuck is wrong with me, I am not a tipper and a bad one when I do tip". Historically I do not tip for a massage, I hope this is not a trend. But in anycase, I am going back and soon.

Yummy
The Filty (I still have baby oil on me) One

Cienega32
05-03-07, 07:54
You know, it sounds pretty uneventful, but it is the friendships that have formed since the first Mongerpalooza 3 years ago that I appreciate the most. We didn't have any new members in attendance, which would have been nice but Clydesdale and Gentleman Monger are a great pair to hit the streets with. I you ever get the chance to meet them, don't let it pass you by.

MugrosoI often wonder how many times I'm having a "XX" with a fellow forum member sitting in the same club; not knowing but one or two of them.

I don't know what it is with me and weather but everytime I'm thinking of crossing The Rio, it acts up. Take today, for example...

Henry34
05-03-07, 16:49
Mugroso,

Is the Pink Ladies gone?

I am think heading down to the Pink Ladies this sumer.

Justsomeim
05-03-07, 18:24
Yeah that's the place, I know the young manager but you know what I never knew he knew english and my spanish is for s$$t. The last time I went over was horrbile and I haven't been back since, still debating it.


yeah dude the one right off the bridge.

Some young manager guy, who spoke English like an American, quoted me the $40 price.

I was surprised too. . .but I don't negotiate with them because whenever I pay $30 I get rushed--e.g. Michel's.

Justsomeim
05-03-07, 18:29
I've read you guys talk about a girl named Perla giving a great massage.

About two weeks ago I went to Stephanie's and was handled by a girl named Perla who was amazing at the massage, and like one of you fellas said, was very good about massaging every inch of me. She was the best massage I've ever had in J-town and I'd reccomend her to you guys.

Mugroso
05-04-07, 02:41
Mugroso, Is the Pink Ladies gone?
I am think heading down to the Pink Ladies this sumer.

I was refering to where the Pink Ladies used to be before they relocated to the old Caesars Palace/Four Roses location south of 16 de Sept. They are still open so no worries, just watch out for them cabbies.

Mugroso

Bbond
05-04-07, 03:50
I was refering to where the Pink Ladies used to be before they relocated to the old Caesars Palace/Four Roses location south of 16 de Sept. They are still open so no worries, just watch out for them cabbies.

Mugroso

Don't take a cab to Pink Ladies, don't do it. Have them drop you at S-Mart, and walk the rest, go inside S-Mart if you must to lose the cabbie, but lose him.

Palamides
05-04-07, 21:18
Has anyone picked up a SW at the car park right of Triunfo De La Republica (sp? ). I am really surprised no one on the board here has mentioned it. I am not talking about the car park where kids go to hang out and listen to music. I am talking about where you pull into the lot and there are motel rooms in the back. You park and walk through the lot where cars are parked up front. As you walk by, the girls inside the cars turn on the dome light so you can see them. If your interested they will get out and introduce themselves and you can talk price. Then you go to the back, I think you can even pull your car into a carport type enclosure, and go to the room with the girl. I have gone by twice with a friend where prices quoted were $70-$80 for FS for 1 hour. One time he went to the room and one time we went to a similar motel off Zaragosa for a $20 BJ because he didn't want to pay more. Quality matched the price in the second case. Sorry I don't know too many details here, but I do know I have seen some really hot girls. It also seems really convenient as you drive in, get your girl, and get a room ($20). A true hobbyist DEE "Drive- in-Experience!

Treewalker
05-05-07, 05:44
walked by today and it was closed, talked to one of the paolas ( i know two or is it paula and paola?) whatever.

she said he is gone to jail for a long while for the americano **** fiasco and said a possible 20 years. hmmm...should be interesting.

probably should thank mug and others who steer others clear of the bum, and thank my lucky stars i never got in any trouble around there.

Cienega32
05-05-07, 08:38
walked by today and it was closed, talked to one of the paolas ( i know two or is it paula and paola?) whatever.

she said he is gone to jail for a long while for the americano **** fiasco and said a possible 20 years. hmmm...should be interesting.

probably should thank mug and others who steer others clear of the bum, and thank my lucky stars i never got in any trouble around there.
i know after i wrote off the joint, i would always see the joint closed when i went in casa colorado.

one time, a little while back before his incident, he was telling me that he was in jail and shut down for some fights in the streets with some of his "crew". turns out the one was providing bad id but his problem was they said the fights started inside his place and he was responsible for the disturbance, or some happy crap like that. around the same time he fired the old guy for stealing.

i know one thing - the world would be a better place without his sort.

Starboat
05-05-07, 10:43
Went over to Luxxor on Thursday around 6pm. There were alot of girls, mostly the same lot as before the closing. After some drinks in the back with some of the chicas, went off with Ruby, pretty face and great attutitude, but quite a bit on the heavy side. Had a great time with her and would highly recomend if weight is not a problem. After a bit went in again with 18 year old Chantel, great body, pretty face, no kids, BBBJ, BBFS, started with BJ then Cowgirl, ended up with DS, this after a bit off Sea Hunt on my part. She is certainly the best at Luxxor right now. They are running a deal, because of their re-opening. 2 chicks in the jazcuzzi for $100. After they closed went out for a few drinks with a couple of the girls, who usually have a shithouse attitude whilst working at Luxxor. At the bar, we started to kiss and she complained that I tasted like pussy, oh well, as she knew the taste, perhaps this might lead to something more exciting next time around, like the old days with Vico and Candy.

Treewalker
05-05-07, 15:50
I know after I wrote off the joint, I would always see the joint closed when I went in Casa Colorado.

I know one thing - the world would be a better place without his sort.


I'm not sure I got the full story from the girl, but the part I did catch? "He's in jail gone for maybe 20 years" So we'll see.

I see now why women like daytime drama shows.

Juarez is like a high stakes Soap Opera for guys, but we actually get to participate and have the women.

Clydesdale
05-05-07, 17:50
It seems some Chilean judges came to Juarez to teach them how to reform their 'justice' system and the immigration agents tried to extort money from them. They must test everyone to make sure they're a corrupt dumf*ck before they let them put on a uniform. Would this be a proper usage for the word 'pendejo'?
http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.php?notaid=9484ed38491db9119920f4d5035ca1cb

Bbond
05-05-07, 18:45
it seems some chilean judges came to juarez to teach them how to reform their 'justice' system and the immigration agents tried to extort money from them. they must test everyone to make sure they're a corrupt dumf*ck before they let them put on a uniform. would this be a proper usage for the word 'pendejo'?

i just wrote an e-mail to the author of that article, ask him to follow up and reminded him that extorsion is a part of juarez, even the policia are guilty.

these guys were only trying to get $50 to speed up the paperwork, but the article said that sometimes people are told up to $2000.

maybe they will throw these guys in jail, and show people they are serious about fighting corruption.

when i visit juarez, the only people i fear are the policia, shit they extort money just for walking down the street.

Treewalker
05-05-07, 19:19
When I visit Juarez, the only people I fear are the policia, shit they extort money just for walking down the street.

Thats right. I pass through some rough places and I fear the Policia much more than anyone else.

Mugroso
05-05-07, 19:19
It seems some Chilean judges came to Juarez to teach them how to reform their 'justice' system and the immigration agents tried to extort money from them. They must test everyone to make sure they're a corrupt dumf*ck before they let them put on a uniform. Would this be a proper usage for the word 'pendejo'?
http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.php?notaid=9484ed38491db9119920f4d5035ca1cb

That is too funny. Those judges got a first hand taste of what they are there to help the Mexicans with. I am sure that even Mexicans say, "fucking Mexicans".

The mordida system is so embedded in their society that it won't be easy for them to let go. But they have made progress but in order for them to join the civilized world they must make more progress.

Mugroso

Bbond
05-06-07, 09:17
Has anyone picked up a SW at the car park right of Triunfo De La Republica (sp? ).
Can you be a little more specific on the location?

Mugroso
05-06-07, 10:04
Can you be a little more specific on the location?

I believe he is talking about the Fuente autotel/booze drinking place. You pull in, order drinks, pick up chicas and other stuff. I have taken several chica friends there until I found out who owns/used to own it. Too heavy for this kid.

Palamides mentions one of the aspects of Fuente. I have never mentioned it before because I am not into the street thing. The "ladies" that can be found there are barely a step above your common ordinary street girl. The same risks apply to these girls as the SGs in downtown. Drugs and thieves and just basic trouble.

Mugroso

Cienega32
05-06-07, 20:32
... until I found out who owns/used to own it. Too heavy for this kid.
That sounds like it would make an interesting post.

Mugroso
05-06-07, 22:08
That sounds like it would make an interesting post.

About '98 or '99 I went into a stripclub away from downtown, sat, ordered a drink and started to enjoy the dismal line up for the evening. I felt a hand on my shoulder and thought I was being hit up for a drink. The guy sat down next to me. It was the former DJ at Las Palmeras. Cool dude and I hadn't seen him a for a few months, he had been working at this new club for a while and we chatted and caught up on things, and introduced me to a few girls and so on.

When I was getting ready to leave, he asked me if I could give a friend a ride home and he pointed her out. She had been sitting in the corner, no stripper gear, just her in regular clothes and a purse. I said ok and off we went.

I took her to her place and she didn't get out but said she wanted to party and have some drinks somewhere. I ask what she recommended and she said The Fuente. Ok, so off we went.

We pull up and order drinks and we get out to sit on the tailgate of my pick up. She thought that was so cool and we drank and snuggled and did a little tounge tango. Some friends of her's, a couple, drove by and said hi and parked next to us. Great, cock blockers.

We all chatted and all of a sudden she asks me for 5 bucks to buy a paper of cocaine. What a turn off, I said no. They chatted a bit in fast Spanish and I couldn't keep up. Then she asks me for 3 bucks because they were gonna go buy a hamburger down the street. I rolled my eyes and handed her 3 bucks and they were gone in a flash.

I knew better, they weren't coming back, I got ditched. No problem so I tossed the trash and headed off. A few blocks later, maybe more, I noticed through the corner of my eye with the help of passing street lights a purse. I pull over into a parking lot and yup, it was a purse.

I think, "hmm, maybe she was gonna come back". I could have gone back to The Fuente but at the very least I was insulted that she wanted coke. Fuck her, I kept going but not before going through her purse. I found lipstick, some change totaling about 20 pesos, an ID, this and that and a harmonica. What? A fucking harmonica? I don't know, you tell me and we will both know. What an odd item I thought, it didn't look new or special.

So I am driving, looking for a place to toss out the purse but some places were to lit and some dark places had people in the shadows going about their normal business. So here I am, an American with a Mexican womans purse looking for a place to toss it out with the Juarez killings going on. I thought to myself, I need to get smart.

I finally found a place, tossed it while driving and that was that.

Mugroso

Toni Ten
05-06-07, 22:45
Sorry to hear that they have close all the stripbars downtown but, Mugroso you need to find a new place to go maybe Jokers or something your getting me all depressed. And i feel the need for a road trip! TT (the still have faith one).

Palamides
05-07-07, 01:45
After reading your comments and the story I can see the dangers. When I think of my own experiences in the past in that part of town it all becomes quite clear that its not a place where I want to be. Belive me I take the warnings a lot more seriously after a friend and myself were pulled aside and thoroughly patted down by the cops on mariscal street on our way to Pink Lady. I havent been over in a while and its been ages since I've gone over looking for sex. Hopefully someone will report someplace nice soon. I agree its getting depressing. Thanks dudes!

Treewalker
05-07-07, 04:29
Has anyone picked up a SW at the car park right of Triunfo De La Republica

Can someone point it out on the map or add it?


http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31744391&x=-106460888&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2

Mugroso
05-07-07, 04:45
Can someone point it out on the map or add it?
http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31744391&x=-106460888&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2

Here ya go.

http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31732543&x=-106424169&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

Bbond
05-07-07, 05:20
Here ya go.

http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31732543&x=-106424169&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

I'll bet I have driven by that 100 times, never realized what it was, altho I had heard of it, just never knew where it was.

Bbond
05-07-07, 05:26
we all chatted and all of a sudden she asks me for 5 bucks to buy a paper of cocaine.


that's the first time you had a chick ask for drug money?
i have been asked so many times it's pathetic, usually they ask money for milk, or [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), "for the baby".
but she came right out and asked you for money for drugs. unreal.

Treewalker
05-07-07, 05:36
Here ya go.

http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31732543&x=-106424169&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

Thanks. Never would have known.......

Mugroso
05-07-07, 06:00
that's the first time you had a chick ask for drug money?
i have been asked so many times it's pathetic, usually they ask money for milk, or [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), "for the baby".
but she came right out and asked you for money for drugs. unreal.

same here, they never ask for it directly. its always something and its always smart to just assume its for drugs. i can't think of many times where a chica was honest and told me what it was for. and when they hit you up for a buck, she only needs 4 more to get a paper.

and yes, it really was the first time. i was new to being a regular in juarez. it was "pre" internet for me, i didn't even look at a forum until 2001 or so.

you mention [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), alexa, formerly of las vegas, asked me to actually buy her [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) for her new born. i doubt she was gonna sell them for coke but i don't put anything past those chicas.

mugroso

Bbond
05-07-07, 23:42
you mention [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), alexa, formerly of las vegas, asked me to actually buy her [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) for her new born. i doubt she was gonna sell them for coke but i don't put anything past those chicas.

if she asked you to actually purchase [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), and not for money to buy them prolly was honest about it. it's the asking for money for purchases that is the rip-off, she normally ain't gonna buy what she says she is.

AlaskaKingCrab
05-08-07, 04:07
Does anyone know if she's still working? If she is what time and days is she usually there?

AlaskaKingCrab
05-08-07, 04:38
Does anyone know if Arleth is still working? If she is does anyone know what time and days? Thanks

Henry34
05-08-07, 16:42
Thanks, Mugroso and Bbond. I am happy that Pink Ladies still there. I am gonna head down there sometimes this month. Maybe, I try to see if any other place open late like the Pink Ladies too.

Espina Heart
05-08-07, 18:23
So the rain did me a favor today. I kept me from going out early in the afternoon to Juarez for a massage. How so? If I had gone early I may have possibly not meet Fernanda.

... in anycase, I am going back and soon.

Yummy
The Filty (I still have baby oil on me) One

What have I told ya'll? She is oh so sweet. But Mug, what time do you think she gets in at Paraiso? Early afternoons are my time du panocha as I try to get back up north in a reasonable fashion.

Gotta know. gotta have more of that yummy.
spine

WS6
05-09-07, 01:51
Does anyone know if Arleth is still working? If she is does anyone know what time and days? ThanksIf it's the Sirenas Arleth you refer to, I was told a couple of weeks ago that she comes in at 3. I didn't ask which days. See post 1004.

Mugroso
05-09-07, 04:40
What have I told ya'll? She is oh so sweet. But Mug, what time do you think she gets in at Paraiso? Early afternoons are my time du panocha as I try to get back up north in a reasonable fashion.
Gotta know. gotta have more of that yummy.
spine

I didn't even think to ask what her hours were. I did ask when she has days off and I think she said Sunday and Monday. I have never considered using the jacuzzi room at any MP but she is such a sweetheart and fuckbunny I am going to save my loose change and take her. I just hope this doesn't put too much of a dent in my planned Phillippines (Angeles City) vacation.

Oh, by the way guys, Paraiso has a jacuzzi room for 100 bucks for 2 hours. Cost for regular services are 35 for half an hour and 40 for one hour. Go figure.

Mugroso

Cienega32
05-09-07, 20:01
While recording the DyN and Irmas demise info, I noticed this one new entry. Dead center (just west of the Gym) on the link provided, there's an entry for "Sw/mp" that is on the side street by the old Iguana and just past the 4/10 bar.

Anyone have any info? The street crowd by the 4/10 always caught my eye.


http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31741968&x=-106487716&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

Henry34
05-09-07, 21:30
I gonna head to Juarez very soon and would like your expert suggestion on where to go this time. I will be arrive there around 11ish pm, so massage places already closed. In the past I have been hitting Pink Ladies cause they open pretty late and it is a sure thing for me. I speak no spanish either, so I am having a hard time go to those club by the bridge and mingle.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Henry34

Bbond
05-09-07, 23:25
while recording the dyn and irmas demise info, i noticed this one new entry. dead center (just west of the gym) on the link provided, there's an entry for "sw/mp" that is on the side street by the old iguana and just past the 4/10 bar.

anyone have any info? the street crowd by the 4/10 always caught my eye.


http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31741968&x=-106487716&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

that is the 4/10 club area, next door to the 4/10 is the rooms used by the girls that work 4/10 and the street. new description says it has massage tables, the place i refer to did not use to have tables, maybe now it does?
most of the girls in that street area are heavy drug users.
every time i peeked into the 4/10 is was deserted, zero customers.
but there were always some girls in the place next door.

also noted that there is no entry on the map for club panama?

Cienega32
05-10-07, 05:24
that is the 4/10 club area, next door to the 4/10 is the rooms used by the girls that work 4/10 and the street. new description says it has massage tables, the place i refer to did not use to have tables, maybe now it does?
most of the girls in that street area are heavy drug users.
every time i peeked into the 4/10 is was deserted, zero customers.
but there were always some girls in the place next door.

also noted that there is no entry on the map for club panama?
i keep forgetting about panama. ever since they changed owners or whatever it was, it just didn't feel right anymore. i haven't been there in a while tho'.

never did wander to the 4/10. just a look down the block made me feel the way you described so i would just pass on the way to casa.

Coyote79
05-10-07, 13:15
I gonna head to Juarez very soon and would like your expert suggestion on where to go this time. I will be arrive there around 11ish pm, so massage places already closed. In the past I have been hitting Pink Ladies cause they open pretty late and it is a sure thing for me. I speak no spanish either, so I am having a hard time go to those club by the bridge and mingle.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Henry34
11 PM?
I think you're screwed (and not in a good way).

I remember the first time I went to Juarez.
Went real late—like 2 AM.
Got totally ripped off by some druggie SW for about $300, and no sex.

I can’t wait for Alzheimer's to set in so I can forget this kind of stuff.

Coyote79
05-10-07, 13:23
Two ladies working, Fernanda & darker girl.
Both were HOT.
But you know I had to go with Fernanda.

Girl just about killed me (in a good way).

I know it's terrible, but the only thing I don't like about Fernanda is she's too pasty. She even has hazel eyes.

I mean, if I wanted a white girl I wouldn't of moved to the border :-)

Bbond
05-10-07, 20:45
11 PM?
I think you're screwed (and not in a good way).

I remember the first time I went to Juarez.
Went real late—like 2 AM.
Got totally ripped off by some druggie SW for about $300, and no sex.


Downtown is not the place to be late. Bars must close at 2am, some earlier depending on permit type. You will be a prime target for whatever, including, but not limited to policia.

Henry34
05-10-07, 21:33
Downtown is not the place to be late. Bars must close at 2am, some earlier depending on permit type. You will be a prime target for whatever, including, but not limited to policia.Well, I figure from 11pm to 2 am I should have enough time to do some actions, but where? I am open to suggestion. you guys think I should not be in Juarez pass 11pm at all?

My Freedom
05-11-07, 00:23
Where is the Paraiso located where Fernanda works? I know there are two Paraiso's in town, but where is the one where she is? (Perhaps it is located close to the San Lorenzo area close to Av. Charro?)

Isn't there also an MP in back of Hippermart, called something like "Lorylend?" Is it worth a trip?

My Freedom

Clydesdale
05-11-07, 04:02
The old Rancho Grande has been reduced to rubble, along with the place that was across the street to the north. No big loss since it had been closed for a while, but it was sad to see.

When visiting Pink Ladies, consider bringing your own rubber. The one they gave me was this blue thing that was about as thick as an inner tube. It really detracted from the experience. BTW, Lucera gets a thumbs up.

Svtlord
05-11-07, 05:44
So I want to venture to other Mexican border towns, would you guys recomend Reynosa or Nuevo Laredo?

Bbond
05-11-07, 06:01
So I want to venture to other Mexican border towns, would you guys recomend Reynosa or Nuevo Laredo?

Either or. Both have distinct advantages over Juarez. So I would go to the easiest place from where you are.

Shoot me a PM for better recommendations.

Mugroso
05-11-07, 06:43
So I want to venture to other Mexican border towns, would you guys recomend Reynosa or Nuevo Laredo?

If you consider going west Agua Prieta and Nogales are good. AP has a very small scene but fun can be had and Nogales is much bigger but more expensive but eye candy galore. AP is about 4 hours from El Paso and Nogi is 6 max. I haven't been to either one in about 2 years and have been itching to go back.

Check out DragonCelt's website ladiesofnogales.com for info on Nogi.

Mugroso

Bbond
05-11-07, 06:54
If you consider going west Agua Prieta and Nogales are good. AP has a very small scene but fun can be had and Nogales is much bigger but more expensive but eye candy galore. AP is about 4 hours from El Paso and Nogi is 6 max. I haven't been to either one in about 2 years and have been itching to go back.

Check out DragonCelt's website ladiesofnogales.com for info on Nogi.

Mugroso

I prefer NL, because of the distance, but $10 door girls in Reynosa sure make it an attractive destination too.

Coyote79
05-11-07, 11:55
you guys think I should not be in Juarez pass 11pm at all?
Yes, that's correct.

I guess you could pick up a SW at 11 PM.
Some mongers seem to make that work.

BTW all my experiences with SW have been a nightmare.

I would rent a room at Villa Manport on Hermanos Escobar & then go to Sirena's the following day.
(unless ur coming on Saturday--Sirena's is closed on Sunday)

Coyote79
05-11-07, 12:00
Where is the Paraiso located where Fernanda works? I know there are two Paraiso's in town, but where is the one where she is? (Perhaps it is located close to the San Lorenzo area close to Av. Charro?)

it's the very first building on the right after crossing the free bridge.
Next to the gas station.
I only know of one Paraiso.


Isn't there also an MP in back of Hippermart, called something like "Lorylend?" Is it worth a trip?

My Freedom
I don't know dude, mongers?
I like to check that out myself

WS6
05-11-07, 16:42
Where is the Paraiso located... Isn't there also an MP in back of Hippermart, called something like "Lorylend?" Is it worth a trip?Put Paraiso right under the crosshairs for you on th JZ wikimap:

http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31752328&x=-106456876&z=15&l=0&m=a&v=2

When you cross the free bridge, keep to the right lane. You will soon come to a bridge that goes over the Riberenio Hwy. Immediately after crossing that, there will be a bunch of cars exiting to the right, follow them. You are right there.

I think you are referring to MP Loryed, do a search you will get much info.

Bbond
05-11-07, 22:23
it's the very first building on the right after crossing the free bridge.
Next to the gas station.
I only know of one Paraiso.

Me too, only know of one.



I don't know dude, mongers?
I like to check that out myself
Yes, shown on the wikipedia monger map too. Hit or miss, just like the rest.

Mugroso
05-12-07, 13:04
The old Rancho Grande has been reduced to rubble,

I sure has.

I noticed where the bathrooms used to be is still up. It is funny how small these rubbled bar ruins are and to leave the buildings next to them mostly untouched. Those wrecking guys are good.

Mugroso

Coyote79
05-12-07, 14:25
http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31752328&x=-106456876&z=15&l=0&m=a&v=2

I think you are referring to MP Loryed, do a search you will get much info.
I don't see MP Loryed on the map.
Did I miss something?

Bbond
05-12-07, 14:55
I don't see MP Loryed on the map.
Did I miss something?


Right by, behind actually, the Soriana San Lorenzo. It's on the map.

Coordinates: 31°44'9"N 106°25'43"W

My Freedom
05-12-07, 22:36
So far the Panama is still standing. I hear it will go down within a month, up to a year. What do you other mongers hear?

Has anyone heard about the Pink Ladies also going down? What is the normal going rate there? I have been told and quoted $80 or $100? Apparently the days of $60 there are history.

I located the Loryed. It's behind the Hippermart, San Lorenzo area, upstairs.

Coyote79, thanks for the info on the location of the Paraiso.

Clydesdale, too bad about the Rancho Grande. Guess they will all go down eventually.

So, will Av. Juarez be left alone, or hit as well?

My Freedom

Mugroso
05-13-07, 00:46
Ok, to clear up some confusion about Paraiso and Loryed's I have zoomed in on both. To get a perspective on where you are going zoom out.

Loryed's
http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31735531&x=-106427425&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2

Paraiso
http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31751662&x=-106456940&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2

I hope this clears it up.

Happy Hunting
Mugroso

Clydesdale
05-13-07, 02:57
So far the Panama is still standing. I hear it will go down within a month, up to a year. What do you other mongers hear?

Has anyone heard about the Pink Ladies also going down? What is the normal going rate there? I have been told and quoted $80 or $100? Apparently the days of $60 there are history.

My Freedom

I went with Lucera from Pink Ladies last Thursday for 60. She's an energetic, pretty morena with a nice bod, especially the nips. She was a real trooper - with that industrial strength rubber it took a while. The waiter wanted to do the negotating, which pissed me off. I would rather deal with the girl. It started at 100 and settled at 60.

The plan calls for everything between Mariscal, Santos Degollado, and 16 de Septiembre except the gym to come down. That would include Panama, but spare Pink Ladies and Casa Colorado. I tried to upload an image of the plan, but it won't take it.

Clydesdale
05-13-07, 03:13
OK, I couldn't upload it, so here's a link to the Centro fantasy plan. Think they can pull it off?

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/bbtri/images/detail/#338/centroplanjpgxb3.jpg

Victor Lazlo
05-13-07, 08:10
OK, I couldn't upload it, so here's a link to the Centro fantasy plan. Think they can pull it off?
Well, even if they can it looks pretty sterile, kind of like a modern community college campus. Still, it wouldn't be so bad to have all the fun stuff concentrated in one smallish red light district, as Juarez is not a pedestrian-friendly city, with all due respect to you veterans and your memories of "the good 'ol days" (and places).

An interesting question, to me at least: Why is it that every time I check out some new place the first thing I read on ISG is how it used to be great here but now it sucks, etc?

Victor Lazlo
05-13-07, 09:35
The base charge at Loryed is $30 for massage and sex (a half-hour I guess). Last time there I had Wendy. She was passable as far as attitude and service, and at least she was slender, as were none of the other ladies present. CBJ was included. She offered BBBJ for an additional $20, which I declined.

From what I've seen and read here, Juarez is not exactly a haven for spinners. Does the aforementioned Fernanda at Paraiso fit that description?

Bachelor Warrior
05-13-07, 16:27
Loryed is in an interesting spot in what looks like a residential area behind a big shopping center.

It is, without a doubt, one of the tiniest, oldest, and filthiest massage parlors. I had some free time one day and took it as a challenge to find the place. It was an afternoon, so maybe the best "masseuses" weren't there. There were 4 or 5 rather hefty ladies in their late 20s or early 30s. The best was probably a 6. It's been reported here before, but something unusual is that the ladies come in one at a time to introduce themselves...very briefly.

There wasn't anyone there I was interested in, I left. So I can't comment on the service.

Rumor has it that, when its time comes, the Panama will relocate to where the Sleepy Iguana used to be. That would be convenient. Of course, I doubt it will be as clean and nice as it was when the American owned it.

BW

Billy Monger
05-13-07, 18:37
From the looks of the pic, that part of the renovation is south and away from Mongerland.

Coyote79
05-13-07, 23:12
It is, without a doubt, one of the tiniest, oldest, and filthiest massage parlors. I had some free time one day and took it as a challenge to find the place. It was an afternoon, so maybe the best "masseuses" weren't there. There were 4 or 5 rather hefty ladies in their late 20s or early 30s. The best was probably a 6.
yuck. . .thanks for the heads-up

Coyote79
05-13-07, 23:13
From what I've seen and read here, Juarez is not exactly a haven for spinners. Does the aforementioned Fernanda at Paraiso fit that description?
YUP--she's petite

Coyote79
05-13-07, 23:18
http://www.realdoll.com/dolls.asp

Big John 1
05-14-07, 01:21
This morning in Las Palomas Chihuahua saw part of article in El Dario that 15 parlors suddenly closed in Juarez for not taking courses in massage and being used as a front for prostitution!!!!gee,imagine that.It was a borrowed paper,so did not get whole article,can somebody please elaborate ASAP.Thanks,Big John 1

Cienega32
05-14-07, 03:49
This morning in Las Palomas Chihuahua saw part of article in El Dario that 15 parlors suddenly closed in Juarez for not taking courses in massage and being used as a front for prostitution!!!!gee,imagine that.It was a borrowed paper,so did not get whole article,can somebody please elaborate ASAP.Thanks,Big John 1
I remember a talk I had with Chelo from Virginia's (pre-Nov '06) about the tear down of El Centro. She said something like that - that the MPs would get a close look-over after the working bars were shutting down.

Oh my!

Clydesdale
05-14-07, 03:54
This morning in Las Palomas Chihuahua saw part of article in El Dario that 15 parlors suddenly closed in Juarez for not taking courses in massage and being used as a front for prostitution!!!!gee,imagine that.It was a borrowed paper,so did not get whole article,can somebody please elaborate ASAP.Thanks,Big John 1

http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.php?notaid=5d2e6bb10eba3dbb144e57eab43e7a46

Looks like it's time to start getting our little black books in order, unless you're into picking up SWs. Apparently the state said the city was improperly licensing them. C'mon guys, you weren't going for the massages?

Cienega32
05-14-07, 04:11
Tifany
Luxor
Sarai
Felina
Génesis
Princesas
Stephanie
Cuatro Reinas
Roma
Marisol
Michel
Caricias,
Venecia

Did I also read it right that they closed the place they go to be checked for STDs?

Google translator:
"Another one of the establishments that the Coespris closed by irregular operation was the Laboratory of Clinical Analyses Confidence; it is to this establishment to which the women who work in the massage houses go canalized by the municipal authorities to be made the examinations of VIH and venereal diseases."

AlaskaKingCrab
05-14-07, 06:22
Wait, the way I read it was that 5 of the closed MP's were re-opened, under the speculative basis. Could this just be the incident that happened a few weeks ago with Luxxor being closed but re-opening? Also, I thought prostitution was legal in Mexcio, at least not enforced.

"Closed businesses the state dependency closed the houses of massages: Tifany located in Juan of the Barrier 1693-A; Luxor with address in 16 of September 1530; Sarai with direction in 20 of November 3285; Feline in Jose Borunda 1720; Génesis in Mounts of Oca 301; Princess in avenue of Race 6388; Stephanie; Four Reinas; Rome; Marisol; Michel; Caresses, Venice among others. Another one of the establishments that the Coespris closed by irregular operation was the Laboratory of Clinical Analyses Confidence; it is to this establishment to which the women who work in the massage houses go canalized by the municipal authorities to be made the examinations of VIH and venereal diseases. It expressed that five businesses that had been closed reopened with the justification of which the municipality granted an operation license to them to be able to operate inside the premises with the speculative commercial turn "All it approved Town hall"

Coyote79
05-14-07, 14:07
http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.php?notaid=5d2e6bb10eba3dbb144e57eab43e7a46

Looks like it's time to start getting our little black books in order, unless you're into picking up SWs.


So I read that article but did it say anything about them re-opening?

Starboat
05-14-07, 18:31
Luxxor is open and has been for about two weeks, the article was old!

R Brandon
05-15-07, 01:23
Gee, stay away a while and come back to everything closed. Bad news for the Juarez scene. Now I see why you are exporing Philippines scene Mugroso. Hope things smooth out soon and places reopen.rbc100

Svtlord
05-15-07, 04:07
Tifany
Luxor
Sarai
Felina
Génesis
Princesas
Stephanie
Cuatro Reinas
Roma
Marisol
Michel
Caricias,
Venecia


After a trip to J town this weekend, I can confirm that Luxxor, Felinas, Princesas, Cuatro Reinas, Marisol, Genesis, and Michel are NOT closed. Tiffany and Mercedes ARE closed

Mugroso
05-15-07, 04:50
With the closing of the downtown zona and its lingering death I thought at least the MPs would be a sure bet for relief. I guess I was wrong.

This is big news guys. The worst part of it is I suspect there will be no walled off, regulated zona like Nuevo Laredo and Acuña. All these closings and no nailed down plan for the new zona. Nothing but rumors and speculation. They seem to really want to clean up their image. But I wonder why the high class strip clubs seem to be immune, at least so far. And what about the ads in the classified section of El Diario? Will they be left untouched?

If SvtLord is correct it is a good sign that at least some of the MPs will continue to operate. But when did the raids take place, before or after SvtLord's visit? The news link says 12 May at 11:24pm which would tell me the raids happened Saturday and the article made it to print Sunday.

I hope this doesn't discourage us from returning to Juarez. We need to keep going down and act as scouts to verify closings and reopenings. I will likely head down Wednesday and hit a few MPs to see who is open but it would be a great help if others would join in the effort.

I would like to create a contact list and maintain it but with the hard hitting government shutting people down that would just put my dick in the wind more than it already is. Go hit up any Tijuana forum, thread or what ever and read about what happened to Sampson over there in TJ. The was running a website that was much more involved than mine. He was actually making contacts with putas and American clients and was busted by the Mexicans for prostitution and pandering. Besides, the ladies of Juarez change their cell phone numbers like they change their tangas. Forget the internet, I only know of one that was web savvy and now she is out of the picture.

Everytime I suggest getting an email address to a chica they always say its too difficult or too expensive to use an internet cafe but yet they spend money on fischas for their cell phones and burn through the minutes like nothing flat.

But in any case I am brainstorming trying to come up with ideas to deal with the current situation. If anyone has any ideas lets hear them. We need to be prepared or else wind up having to travel to other bordertowns for as long as they will last.

Mugroso

Mugroso
05-15-07, 04:52
Now I see why you are exporing Philippines scene Mugroso.rbc100

Yeah, I would like to have an international vacation and explore new things.

MugrosoKO

My Freedom
05-15-07, 23:46
Ok, one recent report here said that when the Panama goes down, it will move to where the "Sleepy Iguana" or Casa Colorado is/was. The 4-10 club is right across the street, but on the "other" side of the alley. Who knows what is supposed to happen to it?

Av. Juarez also has establishments. Will they be left alone, which is what I am hearing, or will they, too, bite the dust?

All of this is very depressing, not to mention the MPs, to say the least. It sounds like the great "authorities" of Cd. Juarez simply do not want us to have fun anymore and they want these ladies to find factory jobs.

These ladies know they must eat, etc. , so it seems to me they have to go SOMEWHERE to make a living. After all, it is the world's oldest and highest paid profession, no? The posts I read say the Pink Ladies will not be affected, but they could sure raise their prices, not to mention the inconvenience of the "cabbies" who want their cut.

My Freedom

Clydesdale
05-16-07, 02:35
Besides, the ladies of Juarez change their cell phone numbers like they change their tangas.

I thought some of those tangas had a little too much character.


But in any case I am brainstorming trying to come up with ideas to deal with the current situation. If anyone has any ideas lets hear them. We need to be prepared or else wind up having to travel to other bordertowns for as long as they will last.

Mugroso

Maybe some of the girls will start moving to regular bars. If enough of a critical mass develops, word would get around and with enough ladies and mongers it could be sustainable. I've had waiters in clubs on Ave Juarez ask me if I wanted a girl.

Mugroso
05-16-07, 03:27
Maybe some of the girls will start moving to regular bars. If enough of a critical mass develops, word would get around and with enough ladies and mongers it could be sustainable. I've had waiters in clubs on Ave Juarez ask me if I wanted a girl.

Thats right, those 2 places you took me to on the avenida with those freelancers and "off duty" ladies. I think we should scout the possibilites this weekend and maybe spread the word to the ladies currently working.

I have considered giving "internet lessons" to those ladies that are interested. Maybe I will make that pitch again but they are just to ignorant but if they hear about it from more mongers then maybe they will see the importance of an email address.


I thought some of those tangas had a little too much character.

Character? I always thought those were shit stains.

Mugroso

Prokofiev
05-16-07, 20:54
OK. I can confirm that both Luxxor and Felinas are open and in full-service mode. Just had sessions at both today . . . and its only 2pm (Wed)

Stuart told me that they are playing around with the rules and certificates, but that everything was now fine. I came over from El Paso this morning and plan to spend the day exploring. Will write a more detailled report later. I have spent a lot of time in Mexico but this is only my 2nd visit to Juarez. But I enjoyed both these places and will return tomorrow if I can find the energy.

Cheers, -P

Billy Monger
05-17-07, 19:35
I am happy to report that the little campesinas at Cleo’s are still in operational mode though one cute eighteen-year-old newbie named Maria needs some coaching and an understanding that for your $35 there you get a CBJ along with FS. She didn’t try to up-sell it, just said she didn’t do oral. The potential is there for a good MPA if she can learn to loosen up a bit.

On the other side of Av. Juarez the word is that the demolition will be as far south as the Barre El Dorado in three to four weeks. The pinche waiters at Eduardo’s are all trying to squeeze the last diez centavos from passersby before the place sees the wrecking ball. Kinda nice to see the arrogance of most of them finally rewarded.

Bbond
05-18-07, 02:41
I just spent from 5/12 thru 5/17 in Juarez, mostly with a long time GF. But did get some run down on a couple things.

As of right now, girls in bars are not required to have a health card to work, that is supposed to change.

Girls working in bars will need a permission from the bar to take a salida with a client. (I don't know how they would enforce that one.)

MP girls will need a certificate for massage training, as well as for the prevention from contacting or spreading AIDS and other VDs.

I didn't get much of a chance to get out very much, but did visit Genesis on Saturday and Loryed on Tuesday, and Pink Ladies on Sunday night, for a short while.

My Freedom
05-18-07, 22:42
What information do some of you have on this small club? Is it going to be spared, or face the wrecking crew as well?

What about the Hotel Rex?

Are we correct in assuming that Av. Juarez itself and Pink Landies will still be left intact?

Thanks,

My Freedom

Coyote79
05-19-07, 06:20
Hit Pariso (sp) & Sirena's.

Pariso didn't have any girls working there at 7:30 PM.
At least that's what the manager seemed to be explaining to me (I'm Spanish chanlleged).

Sirena's was THE BOMB!
About six girls working including Arleth (who looked great).
None were worst than a 6, and several looked yummy.
Choose this quiet 20 yo, Luana (sp).
Petite, native looking, young (exactly my type).
SHE WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!
Gave her a good tip.

Odd, none of the girls at Sirena's ever seems interested in tips.

Anyway, one bad experience.
Several rowdy young guys hassled me as I crossed the free bridge back into El Paso (on the Mex side). . .about 10 PM. . .

Try to intimidate me into giving you a fucking dollar?
Yeah, here's your dollar. Let me shove up your ass you little prick.

I complained to the guy checking ID's on the border, but he said "security" handles that (whatever that means).

Whatever happened to all the Mexican soilders carrying semi-automatics?
Somebody tell them to please come back. . .

Anyway, I'm going to be GONE for a few weeks. . .hope y'all have lots of fun. . .

Palamides
05-19-07, 15:13
Thanks for the great report on Sirenas. I assume the standard rate of 40 dollars per hour applies? How much did you pay? Left a "good tip" how much? I really enjoyed Sirenas that they don't pressure you, try to upsell you, and certainly don't ask for a tip. They can actually message great in addition to FS.

Guys I listened like a good little Guero for years and never took the buses walking everywhere. Then I took the buses and found I could get around much better and learned the routes and streets. I listened like a good little Guero for years and never drove until about 2 years ago. Now I drive over all time. I do highly recommending bringing a buddy who speaks Spanish in case you get stopped by the cops. Besides isn't it more fun to hear your buddy slamming away in the next cubicle? Fuck wataburger, and comparing notes on your hamburguesas take your buddy to Sirenas!

The only problems I've ever seen in the vacinity of juarez have been problems at the bridge. On the USA Side and the Mexican side. Its the one piece of useful information people told me that has been confirmed over and over again. You are asking for trouble if you try to cross the bridge alone in the evenings.

Mugroso
05-19-07, 19:23
Try to intimidate me into giving you a fucking dollar?

How did they try to intimidate you, what was their method? If you had whipped out your wallet they could have easlily grabbed it and ran. I hope this doesn't turn into a trend. I remember a news report about someone being held up at gun point on the downtown bridge last Christmas.

Mugroso

Bachelor Warrior
05-20-07, 15:59
I've stopped by Aldo's (where the Pink Lady used to be) and Casa Colorado over the last three or four weekends, generally between 8 and 12 PM.

Aldo's has about six to 10 ladies working there at any one time. In my opinion, they range from about 4 to 7. You will rate them higher if you like the gorditas. There are not a lot of customers there, so you will be able to pick and chose at your leisure. The ladies do not pester you to buy them drinks or anything. I think that is a good thing.

The Casa has picked up a lot lately. Maybe that's because of the renovation project that is going on. In any case, it is always busy with lots of girls. And there are quite a few very attractive ones. But, there are also a lot of customers. Actually, it seems to me that there are a lot more customers than girls. You might have to push a lot of other guys out of the way to get to the pretty one you want. And then, when you get to her, she might be tired...if you know what I mean.

BW

Prg915
05-21-07, 15:19
Does anyone know when Cleopatra's opens in the morning?

Prokofiev
05-22-07, 18:26
Spent last Wed in Juarez. Walked over the bridge and after exploring the crumbling RL district, eventually ended up at Felinas around 10 am. Only 2 chicas, both a little heavy yet attractive. Took Ivette, a 25yo gordita with 3 kids. Cute face and a great attitude. A little chubby for most, but I enjoyed her company for a full hour. CBJ and 3 positions for 300 pesos. Relatively nice room. Well worth the money. Very playful and fun experience, but it helps to speak Spanish well and to treat them right.

But only 2 hours later I found myself at Luxxor, talking with the co-owner Stuart and surrounded by 7-8 cuties. This was clearly a step up in quality. I liked almost all the chicas there. I asked him in private for his recommendation. He admitted that often the best looking girls were not the best performers and I decided to pass on a tall slender morena that was the hottest of the flock. Took Liz, 22yo morena with 2 kids and enjoyed every minute. Very cute face/body but attempted a $20 up-sell for both oral and a lay. I always consider full service to be both - not just one or the other. Despite that, I spent 45 minutes in the "Starlight?" room with her for a total of $59 US. Still a great deal for the money IMHO.

For first timers or if you are not a Spanish speaker, Luxxor is a good place to go. Excellent facilities, a US owner with a lot of knowledge about the scene and lots of grade A girls. I was surprised at the selection and quality of the chicas. You will pay $20-$40 more than some other places, but I can't see going wrong at Luxxor. Didn't tour the upstairs Jaccuzzi Room.

Justsomeim
05-23-07, 19:59
For first timers or if you are not a Spanish speaker, Luxxor is a good place to go. Excellent facilities, a US owner with a lot of knowledge about the scene and lots of grade A girls. I was surprised at the selection and quality of the chicas. You will pay $20-$40 more than some other places, but I can't see going wrong at Luxxor. Didn't tour the upstairs Jaccuzzi Room.[/QUOTE]I wasn't too impressed with Luxxor, I was there on Monday for the first time just becuase I drove by Genesis and it looked to be closed. I did like the selection and picked out a nice chica named Mia. She was a decent massage, very talkative, but killed the mood with the upsell, the funs stuff wasn't as fun but her body was worth it. She asked for a tip after and when I said sorry, she got really pissed and walked off while I was by the massage room door. Not the best experience and didn't really like the parking.

Gallo Ingles
05-24-07, 12:14
I wasn't too impressed with Luxxor, I was there on Monday for the first time just becuase I drove by Genesis .... Not the best experience and didn't really like the parking.

It just goes to show that so little is guaranteed in life. That is the nature of the MP business. Even within one MP the experience can vary so greatly from one chica to another. I have had some that were so forgettable that they have been relegated to the dust bin of history and others that have made me think I should sell the ranch and move to Col. Anapra just to be near them.

One of the things I like most about Luxxor is that the rooms are well lit. If I am paying for a hottie, I want to be able to see her when I am pumping her tight little ass. Luxxor has light (as well as cleanliness). Some of the other places are just too dark for me.

Rich Uncle
05-25-07, 04:18
I went to Luxxor once about a month ago. The ladies were not all that hot, and the massage I got from a 5-6 chica was poor at best. It could have been that I went at 11 am on a Sunday. :-)

I would like to go again but don't speak much spanish, and so I am afraid to go to Juarez by myself at night. Anyone headed there this weekend willing to let me tag along?

Prokofiev
05-25-07, 09:13
One thing we seem to agree upon is that Luxxor has a nice selection of good-looking ladies. I thought 3 of them last week were truly beautiful - although that can mean something different to each of us.

One tall, slender, hot looking girl (can't recall her name) caught my eye, but Stuart said he had had some complaints about her service and attitude. I took his advice as to whom to select (Liz) and she was "muy simpatica".

Everyone can have a different experience depending on your attitude, expectations and Spanish ability. We all have our techniques and tricks to get a better GFE. What works for me probably wouldn't work for someone else. I chat them up and ask about their lives. I don't like a lot of phony BS - lots of "Oyyy Papi!!" and fake orgasms. I try to joke around and treat them well but also expect them to provide a given level of service. It usually works out well for me, but I have had a few train wrecks . . .

Again, for those who don't speak Spanish and want a Grade A chica, Stuart and Luxxor are highly recommended. Expect to spend $50-$70 for around 45 minutes of action. More upstairs. Price depends upon the room, but NOT the girl. 3-ways - no problem.

Good Luck -P

Palamides
05-25-07, 19:52
met a group of people at the super 8 on raynolds to car-pool over to juarez for breakfast. six of us drove to tomochi on lopez mateos, located just before the turn in to mesaje roma (i put it on the wikimapia a several months back). after breakfast my friend and i peeled off from the group and headed to the mercado juarez. it was slow at 12:00p.m. but we had a relaxing time drinking beer under the awnings. i bought some knockoff sunglasses and he got his shoes shined.

after a few beers we made our way to pink ladies around 1:30pm in the afternoon. my friend and i like that place for some reason and we have gone there a number of times just to sit and have beers ($2 for you and $4 for the girl - cheap!). a previous post talked about the dayshift/nightshift at pink lady and that appears to be correct. the waiter, gilberto, even called a few girls when we arrived to find out their eta and passed that on to us. the previous post was correct in that the girls on the afternoon shift (overall) are prettier than the night shift. one girl (claudia) tall and slim with blond highlights and nice tits had a u.s. cell number which i got for a future adventure. i talked to myra a much younger girl for a while who was a friend of the girl my friend was talking to, but i don’t remember her name. both claudia and myra asked to me to go to the room, but i said no. they continued to drink with me as there were no other guys in the place but me and my friend.

we left pink lady around 5:30 p.m. and headed over to juarez ave. to get some cash and grab some dinner at the nice restaurant on the corner of juarez ave across from the shoe store and catty-corner to the old customs house. my friend got a hamburguesa and i got a sirloin same quality and the staff spent the whole time we were there mopping down floors and cleaning.

after dinner we stopped by sirenas for a mesaje. four girls in the lineup with a cute fetching redhead introducing the lineup. i didn’t catch all the names, but smiled happily when i asked the redhead her name on the way back to the room “arleth” the room was great and i liked that the table was in the center so she could walk around and message all of my body, i am a big guy. she asked for payment up front, only 400 pesos. after the perfunctory message, which was great, time for the flip over and blowjob. i brushed her hair back, like they do in the pornos, so i would admire arthleth’s work on my rod. after i was suitably inspired i roller her over and brushed the head of my dick over her clit and through the folds of her pussy before pushing in. she let me take her in whatever positions i wanted and we finished the full hour with a final message. there was no upsell at any time during the session. she was talkative, sweet, and passionate and lived up to the recommendations by the many members of this discussion group, thanks! i have not tipped in the past at sirenas, but given arleth’s reputation and my great time i tipped her another 100 pesos.

after sirenas we went up the road to check out caesar’s palace. it was a little early just before 9 p.m. my friend (who also enjoyed his sirena’s experience) and i enjoyed a couple of beers and the girls there before heading home. caesar’s palace is a strip club and its claim to fame (imho) is the offering of several very young strippers, a few of whom are actually lithe and fit; the rest are a little thick for my tastes but all are young. a couple of summers ago i actually was there when they used the shower that sits along the southern end of the building near the pool table. gotta admit seeing my girl in the shower was hot! beers are still $5 dollars there, but $10.00 for the girl. for me that’s a little excessive because many of the girls just sit there they don’t even give lap dances.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Palamides
05-25-07, 20:08
I went to Luxxor once about a month ago. The ladies were not all that hot, and the massage I got from a 5-6 chica was poor at best. It could have been that I went at 11 am on a Sunday. :-)

I would like to go again but don't speak much spanish, and so I am afraid to go to Juarez by myself at night. Anyone headed there this weekend willing to let me tag along?The appeal about Juarez (IMHO) that is not going to go away is the sense of adventure and the sense of separation that one gets from a trip across an international border. We are lucky in that, for the locals, we go over for 1hr to fill a prescription or spend all day in Mexico's 4th/5th largest City and yet end the day in our own homes...our own beds. There is enough information on this site (Link to Wikipedia Map) to plan a trip either walking or driving anywhere in town. What’s fun is taking what information you have to work with and going and seeing. I started walking over and taking the bus, then riding with friends, then driving myself.

It’s more much more fun to go with friends and you will find the people nice, accomodating to tourists, and helpful if you are nice to them. I love hanging out at Pink Lady and trying to communicate with the girls. The one time I did go to the room the girl spoke English very well and that did add to the experience, but dont let that stop you especially if you are goign to Mesaje. I agree with the more senior members of the discussion group that speaking Spanish helps and "talking up the girls" provides for more of a GFE, but dont let that stop you if you don't.

The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, so take step one and try a margarita at kentucky club and get a quick mesaje at Cleopatra's on the other side of Juarez Ave. My friend and I were quoted $35 for one hour yesterday (5/24/07).

Lucke
05-27-07, 19:31
I am a complete newby at this. I have only gone to Juarez one time. I went to a mp. I encountered what you all have called, "upsell. " What is the best way to handle this? I don't know much spanish, and the girl didn't seem to know much english. Your suggestions are greatly welcome, as I plan on making the trip on a regular basis. Thanks.

Cienega32
05-27-07, 19:39
The appeal about Juarez (IMHO) that is not going to go away is the sense of adventure and the sense of separation that one gets from a trip across an international border. We are lucky in that, for the locals, we go over for 1hr to fill a prescription or spend all day in Mexico's 4th/5th largest City and yet end the day in our own homes...our own beds. There is enough information on this site (Link to Wikipedia Map) to plan a trip either walking or driving anywhere in town. What’s fun is taking what information you have to work with and going and seeing. I started walking over and taking the bus, then riding with friends, then driving myself.
Well said. It's funny how, if you're looking for "an adventure", once you step off that bridge (Santa Fe) you know you're in the right place. The beauty of being able to wake up in your own bed, or a Stateside motel/hotel, is that you can still get a relatively cheap room in Juarez. If you don't feel at ease with staying the night, you go back over the border to your own bed.

My very first trip into Juarez, I drove around a lot. It was too "busy" for me to really see what was around me and had no idea where anything was, in my pre-Forum days. But I could hear the call and came back over and over until finally moving to Las Cruces.

It took a while for me to ride the bus but with all the info posted here (mainly in the archives at this point) I felt confident and had no problems. Easy as pie and always friendly people. Even tho' I've yet to really explore, it's a good way to see the area between point A and point B. The best part is that they have their main destination points painted on the windshield and they 'all seem to' end up back in El Centro. Keeping a good bearing in your mental compass helps as does a few of the taller landmarks like mountain formations.

As far as Spanish - I think my vocabulary was about 6 words deep when I first started going to Juarez a few years ago. Now it's up to about 20 words but there are so many words that you can figure out with roots and judge the overall sentence with. Spanish is pretty much based on Latin in the same way English is so there's a similar "attitude" with a lot of words. I can't really converse at all but I'm still able to 'chat 'em up' a little bit - just enough to have fun with it, at the least. I also find that 'they' are more than willing to help you expand your linguistic skills, if you ask simple things like "How do you say this" or "What's that called". Knowing I'm a dumb gringo, they make an effort to get around my lack of word skills and try to figure out what I'm asking. I know I've yet to hear "LEARN SPANISH YOU LOUSY %%@#&^!".

I used to have some intimidation but it was very short-lived and feel pretty much at ease with every visit. Of course that at-ease feeling I like to keep in check with the reminder that I AM in another country.

Mugroso
05-27-07, 19:54
So I get off work and head home to freshen up for the usual extra special massage from Fernanda and off I go to Paraiso.

So I arrive at Paraiso with a smile in my pants, hoof it up the stairs, open the door as it wasn't lock and now I get a smile on my face thinking Fernanda saw me approaching, walk in and was greeted by a skank and was told Fernanda wasn't there and hadn't been all week. I looked around in disappointment in vain hopes of seeing her hiding behind a bush and all I saw was a cute but a bit pudgy morena. Nah, not today.

So I head back to my car and hit the Juarez equivilent of the border highway straight to Stefanies in Waterfill to see if I can finally see if the Perla there is my Perla. Damn it, I thought this road would take me to the front door of Stefanies so I over shot the place and I went down a bit further, made a right, made a left, another right, here, there, finally Stefanies. They tell me she already left.

So off I go and decide to go to Tiffanys. Maybe Fernanda went back there since she was missing all week at Paraiso or maybe I could hook up with Viviana. Viviana used to work at Centro Lagunero but I ran into her once and she said she was at Tiffanys. Nope. Closed. It was about 6pm ish so they had to be open but I guess they were fallen victim to the recent MP raids and haven't reopened.

So I make a U-turn and head to downtown by way of Ave. Juan Gabriel down a bit, run a stop sign (ooops), no cops in site keep going, make a right and arrive at Ave Vicente Culeto, make a right thinking, "why not Mercedes"? Costa Rica street is a one way heading down so I had to go further to Panama St. and eventually make it to Costa Rica. Had a hard time finding the place till it was right in front of me. Walk in and was greeted by 2 piggys and I left.

So I continue my trek downtown and arrive. I head to Queens Place and gave Jessie a quick rub down and tell her I will be back to buy some smokes. Bought them and started talking to the doorman and the meseros and not more than 2 minutes later Jessie walks out, looks left, looks right and heads off in her work clothes. 3 minutes later some dude comes up looking for Jessie and they tell him she left on permiso (barfine) and he ask about how that works.

So I am sitting there mildly shocked that in such a short period of time she got snagged up for a permiso, won't be back till 11pm in her club wear. We discussed this once here about how we get horny and take a girl to the room or out on permiso but the chicas always change into street clothes which sort of kills it.

I have been noticing this about Jessie lately. More often than not she is not at work or quickly leaves on permiso farily frequently lately. She is getting quite popular.

Mugroso

Gino the Rod
05-27-07, 20:53
Mugroso beat me to the report, but I too went looking for Fernanda at Paraiso. I was there on Friday at 12:30 p.m. Only one girl working and there were two of us looking. Didn't catch the name but she looked doable. She did tell me that more girls would be in around 2:00 and that Fernanda quit and went to work elsewhere, perhaps at the owner's other location, which I understand might be Cleopatra's downtown.

Have fun, play safe,

Gino

Tacomaman
05-29-07, 22:01
I am planning on being in El Paso on Sunday and Monday and wanted to walk across the border Sunday afternoon or Monday afternoon. I've never been there and don't want to try the drive. rental agency probably would frown on it anyway. Where can I go alone and within walking distance? I don't speak or understand any Spanish so I will be fairly limited.

Also, are there any live shows worth watching? Would get into that too.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Bbond
05-30-07, 00:24
i am planning on being in el paso on sunday and monday and wanted to walk across the border sunday afternoon or monday afternoon. i've never been there and don't want to try the drive. rental agency probably would frown on it anyway. where can i go alone and within walking distance? i don't speak or understand any spanish so i will be fairly limited.
also, are there any live shows worth watching? would get into that too.
thanks for any help you can give me.

i drive rentals across all the time, with insurance purchased for mexico from the rental agency. but being a first timer, i would not recommend it.
read the forum here, there are lots of recomendations, but for a first timer, un-escorted, juarez can be a tough monger destination. no boystown and what's left is rep001tered.
may get lucky and catch an invite from one of the el paso guys here, first trip really helps if you can get someone who kows their way around.

Mugroso
05-30-07, 05:24
Saturday night me and a friend hit the clubs out of downtown. Our first stop was Placeres. Not a bad line up. A nice trim, dark haired chica was dancing when we walked in. She was hot but no smiles. Then a hot dyed blonde got on stage and her ass was so good she made me forget she was a blonde. She danced till all she had on was a smile. Nice. Not one chica in the whole place hit us up for drinks and it wasn't because we stunk. We didn't see too many chicas hitting guys up for drinks. I thought that was a good hassle free enviroment. But for some reason we just didn't like it there over all.

Then we hit up Phantoms at the mall. We chatted with a real sweety named Wendy. A bit pudgy but she was great talking to and looks real sexy in them glasses. We ran into a waiter that used to work centro. Nice guy and its good to see he left the sinking ship. Good career move.

After that we went to Afroditas and it was a dog of a night. It was like being downtown but it did but me in the mood for some chicharrones (pork rinds). Out of pity we stayed for 3 dancers and left.

Mugroso

Billy Monger
05-30-07, 20:28
To Tacomaman and other newbies: A good investment besides this forum is Mugroso’s Ladies of Juarez site. A couple of years ago I was new to El Paso/Juarez and his maps and reviews were extremely helpful as are the personal reports herein. Now if he would only check his email and PMs once in a while.

With his maps in hand and a good reading of ISG I suggest walking over the Santa Fe Bridge the first couple of times just to get oriented. Most of the cabbies speak a little English and are good for directions. Just be wary if they want to drive you to an establishment.

Slumdog
05-30-07, 20:46
WOW. How cheap are you? This girls asks $200, but by haggling I got her down to $100. She is GFE, but before that tell her you pay the $10 for a Soda (cocaine) hit, after she is high she is very passionate.

Cheap tard

Clydesdale
05-31-07, 01:26
Speaking of abandoning Centro, a little birdie told me Diana 2 of Las Vegas may now be working in a MP or club outside the zona. Give me the location if you spot her.

Doubt98
06-01-07, 13:29
I have read through the reports and have a question. Where should I go if I only have one evening? I'll arrive around 5 and have to leave before 1am. I have been to Nuevo Laredo, Mexico City, and Monterrey so I know what I am looking for. My spanish sucks, I just don't want to waste a bunch of time spinning my wheels.
I am not a big fan of SW's, good to get warmed up with though. I prefer strip clubs when you can get one to leave with you. Usually a good experience. The MP's are not something I know anything about. What I've been able to gather from the board is that you can have a very good time for half of what a salida with a stripper costs. Is this correct? Where are the best places to start? Also, the centro that everyone talks about. Is that considered the area after you cross the Sante fe bridge down toward the gymnasium and Juarez Mercado?

Mugroso
06-01-07, 13:39
I have read through the reports and have a question. Where should I go if I only have one evening? I'll arrive around 5 and have to leave before 1am. I have been to Nuevo Laredo, Mexico City, and Monterrey so I know what I am looking for. My spanish sucks, I just don't want to waste a bunch of time spinning my wheels.
I am not a big fan of SW's, good to get warmed up with though. I prefer strip clubs when you can get one to leave with you. Usually a good experience. The MP's are not something I know anything about. What I've been able to gather from the board is that you can have a very good time for half of what a salida with a stripper costs. Is this correct? Where are the best places to start? Also, the centro that everyone talks about. Is that considered the area after you cross the Sante fe bridge down toward the gymnasium and Juarez Mercado?

Try this. Cross the Santa Fe bridge and find a taxi and have him take you to the Villa Manport on Hermanos Escobar. Walk in and ask a few silly questions and make sure he leaves. Then walk out and head across the street to Sirenas Massage. Have fun then head back downtown and enjoy the strip clubs for the remainder of your visit.

Mugroso

Bbond
06-01-07, 13:43
I have read through the reports and have a question. Where should I go if I only have one evening? I'll arrive around 5 and have to leave before 1am. I have been to Nuevo Laredo, Mexico City, and Monterrey so I know what I am looking for. My spanish sucks, I just don't want to waste a bunch of time spinning my wheels.
I am not a big fan of SW's, good to get warmed up with though. I prefer strip clubs when you can get one to leave with you. Usually a good experience. The MP's are not something I know anything about. What I've been able to gather from the board is that you can have a very good time for half of what a salida with a stripper costs. Is this correct? Where are the best places to start? Also, the centro that everyone talks about. Is that considered the area after you cross the Sante fe bridge down toward the gymnasium and Juarez Mercado?

Centro, referred to here is toward the gymnasium.
I would hit Pink Ladies, but someone else may tell you different. Pink Ladies is away, slightly, from Centro. Also Casa Colorada (San Souci) is often a good place to hit too.

Palamides
06-02-07, 16:32
I have read through the reports and have a question. Where should I go if I only have one evening? I'll arrive around 5 and have to leave before 1am.... Two great recommendations from senior members. To get to Pink Ladies cross the Paso Del Norte (Santa Fe) bridge and walk to the end of Juarez Ave. where it intersects with 16 De Septiembre. Take a right on 16 Septiembre (east) and walk towards the cathedral along the North Side of 16 Septiembre. A few streets passed the Cathedra and the Presidencia you will come to Altamirano [Ignacio Manuel Altamirano] where you take a left or turn south. You have to walk several blocks south but you know you are getting close when you see an S-Mart grocery store on your right (west), one street over.

Cheap Drinks for you and the girl. Last Thursday i was quoted some pretty high prices $100-120 by the girls, but after just a little haggling in fun they came down to $60.

Also right when you cross the bridge dont forget to check in at Cleopatra's MP on Tlaxcala or Cristobal Colon; always forget the street but its just off juarez avenue to your left (east). Las week we were quoted $35 for the hour and sometimes they have cute girls.

I got all of this from mapquest, so dont forget to mapquest and print before you walk over.

And finally if you take Mugruso's advice and go to Sirenas, probably the most expedient, dont forget to ask for Arleth! Enjoy.

Wmax2
06-02-07, 22:04
Greetings:

I've been a long timer in Denver area, not on ISG but the local boards.

I have been to Juarez twice, by myself, went to Sirenas and other time just never scored.

I felt intimidated as could be, not familiar with Juarez and all the diff places to go. I think sensory overload. Too much information.

Anyhow, I'd surely like to be a wingman, have a wingman or at least someone to plan a few days with in Juarez.

Can anyone here point me in the right direction of contacting someone to "hold my hand" a bit?

Thanks so much.

Wmax2

Cienega32
06-02-07, 22:21
Also right when you cross the bridge dont forget to check in at Cleopatra's MP on Tlaxcala or Cristobal Colon; always forget the street but its just off juarez avenue to your left (east). Las week we were quoted $35 for the hour and sometimes they have cute girls.

I got all of this from mapquest, so dont forget to mapquest and print before you walk over.

Coming from the bridge, make a LEFT at Caliente Sports Book/Taco Lucas intersection for Cleopatra's.

I find this map to be very informative, for a good overview of the area (thanks to the monger who originally posted the link):

http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=31742753&x=-106485817&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2

Mugroso
06-02-07, 23:52
also right when you cross the bridge dont forget to check in at cleopatra's mp on tlaxcala or cristobal colon

the intersection is ave juarez and ave. ignacio mejia. i poked my head in about 7 or 7:30pm or so. didn't see anything to my liking. fernanda does not work there as speculated in an earlier post. damn it, i need a good massage therapist as well as great sex.

the filthy (yeah, thats the spot babe) one

Bbond
06-03-07, 04:52
To get to Pink Ladies cross the Paso Del Norte (Santa Fe) bridge and walk to the end of Juarez Ave. where it intersects with 16 De Septiembre. Take a right on 16 Septiembre (east) and walk towards the cathedral along the North Side of 16 Septiembre. A few streets passed the Cathedra and the Presidencia you will come to Altamirano [Ignacio Manuel Altamirano] where you take a left or turn south. You have to walk several blocks south but you know you are getting close when you see an S-Mart grocery store on your right (west), one street over.


Actually when you get to S-Mart, you still have a few blocks to go, but not far. Pink Ladies is on the same side of the street as the S-Mart. If I remember correctly, you also pass a Pemex gas station.

Cienega32
06-03-07, 09:28
i wonder how this will change the landscape:


juárez officials, along with representatives of crime stoppers of el paso and the el paso police department's safe communities initiative, officially launched a new curfew ordinance saturday aimed at deterring **** drinking along a popular downtown street.

a 10 p.m. curfew for people 18 and younger took effect this weekend along avenida juárez, which is filled with bars and nightclubs popular with el paso teens.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_6049278

Clydesdale
06-03-07, 14:40
A massage parlor at Otumba and Maria Martinez was closed last night for a client having sex with a masseuse. Dang, no one had even reported on that one yet. I hope they don't start going after all the others again.

Mugroso
06-03-07, 18:54
A massage parlor at Otumba and Maria Martinez was closed last night for a client having sex with a masseuse. Dang, no one had even reported on that one yet. I hope they don't start going after all the others again.

Are you sure about those streets. My map puts that intersection on the block before the Casa Colorada. Unless you are refering to the Kumbali (4-10 bar) where the SGs take you to go fuck.

I know someone marked this place as an MP on th wikipedia map and someone may have reported on here that they had massage tables there.

Mugroso

Clydesdale
06-03-07, 19:36
Are you sure about those streets. My map puts that intersection on the block before the Casa Colorada. Unless you are refering to the Kumbali (4-10 bar) where the SGs take you to go fuck.

I know someone marked this place as an MP on th wikipedia map and someone may have reported on here that they had massage tables there.

Mugroso

That's what it said in the paper.

Cienega32
06-03-07, 20:09
I know someone marked this place as an MP on th wikipedia map and someone may have reported on here that they had massage tables there.

MugrosoThe Wikimap had the mention of the tables. I had asked recently about it because I never knew anything was there other than the 4-10. I think Bbond had info.

Bbplays
06-03-07, 21:00
The Wikimap had the mention of the tables. I had asked recently about it because I never knew anything was there other than the 4-10. I think Bbond had info.I think we should meander across and check it out this afternoon!

Any takers?

Bbond
06-03-07, 23:58
A massage parlor at Otumba and Maria Martinez was closed last night for a client having sex with a masseuse. Dang, no one had even reported on that one yet. I hope they don't start going after all the others again.
Sex in a MP? Who ever heard of such a thing? No wonder those are popular places.-lol-

Actually I don't know of a MP that doesn't offer, up front, sex.

Mugroso
06-04-07, 03:12
I found an article about the kiddie round up downtown and there was mention of a massage parlor at Otumba and MA Maritinez. I also found an article about a lady who worked at the 4-10 that was found strangeled. In that article it mentions the 4-10 as a bar. If we can't get it right, well, they are confused too.

Go to www.diario.com.mx and do a search on "Otumba".

Mugroso

Gino the Rod
06-04-07, 04:50
Sex in a MP? Who ever heard of such a thing? No wonder those are popular places.-lol-

Actually I don't know of a MP that doesn't offer, up front, sex.That's funny, bbond.

Actually, when I went to Marilyn's on Friday they only offered a massage up front. Of course, I already knew what else would happen... But the selection was terrible at 1230 so I moved on. Had a great time with Diana at Genesis.

Have fun, play safe,

Gino

Bbond
06-04-07, 06:07
I found an article about the kiddie round up downtown and there was mention of a massage parlor at Otumba and MA Maritinez. I also found an article about a lady who worked at the 4-10 that was found strangeled. In that article it mentions the 4-10 as a bar. If we can't get it right, well, they are confused too.
Mugroso

4-10 is a bar. Right next door there is/was a two story place where girls took guys to rooms, you could go in there at night after the bars closed and usually there were girls sitting around. That may have been transformed into a MP, I have not been there in quite a while. I used to know several girls that frequented there. I have had some really good experiences there, and a few bad ones too, I stopped going, but would not hesiate to check it out again as it has been a while. Several of the girls stand in the street by the 4-10. Last time I was there, there was nothing worth stopping in for. That area is well known for drug activity and the policia won't hesitate to hassle you if you are around there. Wierd too, as it is just the next street up from Casa Colorada, not really a street, more like an alley, but it is paved.

One bad experience concerned my car getting 2 tires punched while I was inside. I believe it was done to extract money for the guys watching the place as they were very willing to help, for a tip of course. 2 tires flat, one spare, you figure the rest.

Bbond
06-04-07, 13:24
I found an article about the kiddie round up downtown and there was mention of a massage parlor at Otumba and MA Maritinez. I also found an article about a lady who worked at the 4-10 that was found strangeled. In that article it mentions the 4-10 as a bar. If we can't get it right, well, they are confused too.
Mugroso

They pulled 65 minors out last night, 28 girls and 37 guys. Closed 4 bars.
Also, mentioned one closed was Eduardo's, I thought Eduardo's was one of the bars torn down? They relocate?

Cienega32
06-04-07, 19:15
i guess that curfew ordinance will make a big change on the landscape after all!

i just watched a little news video showing the policia scaling the front door wall on what looked like las vegas. scaling the wall because the establishment locked the doors!

something about **** dancers working in clubs... shame on them. looking at the video again, they mentioned that the wall scaling was right across the street from where the 4 minors were working as dancers. i guess that would be hollywood.

la tuna was closed because of a fight with security as well.



i went back over some old photos i had and i might not know what i'm talking about, as far as the clubs mentioned. anyone able to name the club that locked the doors before the cops got there?

Cienega32
06-04-07, 19:33
They pulled 65 minors out last night, 28 girls and 37 guys. Closed 4 bars.
Also, mentioned one closed was Eduardo's, I thought Eduardo's was one of the bars torn down? They relocate?Irma's is what you might be thinking of?

Mugroso
06-04-07, 22:36
anyone able to name the club that locked the doors before the cops got there?

that bar was the maldeon, a fag bar. i saw that video and laughed. i have never seen so many straight men trying so hard to get into a fag bar. the cops boosted each other up on to the roof. too bad i left early both friday and saturday nights.

i hope they keep the bars where they found the ****rs closed to teach them owners a lesson. when i walk into a bar i want to feel confident that i am getting an adult woman.
mugroso

Cienega32
06-04-07, 22:57
That bar was the Maldeon, a fag bar. I saw that video and laughed. I have never seen so many straight men trying so hard to get into a fag bar. The cops boosted each other up on to the roof. Too bad I left early both Friday and Saturday nights.

You sure about that? I'm looking at a pic (from mid-April) of the street and it doesn't look like the doorway and there's no building to the left of it. First I thought it was Queens until I looked at this pic then decided perhaps Vegas.

I'm so confused... guess I'll have to go down this weekend.

I just remembered something from my "early days" of checking out El Centro. Going from one to another - Vegas, Hollywood, Queens, Virginia's - I was about to check out "the joint next to Virginia's" and the doorman stopped me and said, "You know this is a gay nightclub, right?" Before turning right around to head back to Virginia's I said, "No sir, but thank you VERY much for that info".

Mugroso
06-04-07, 23:21
You sure about that? I'm looking at a pic (from mid-April) of the street and it doesn't look like the doorway and there's no building to the left of it. First I thought it was Queens until I looked at this pic then decided perhaps Vegas.

Crap, you are right. I will have to look at that video again. I'd hate to be giving bad info. Panama Club maybe? An investigation is in order.

Spank me
Mugroso

PS, Happy 300th post

Justsomeim
06-04-07, 23:22
I've been seeing a lot of talk in the papers about the lane closures and then Sunday they said it was really goin to happen. 5 of the 9 lane will be closed starting in 2 weeks. I don't know about you fellas but this really sucks for my twice a week habit of crossing the Bridge of Americas and then crosssing back at the Cordova. I'm not looking forward to this and wanted to see what you guys think about it.

Clydesdale
06-05-07, 02:22
Crap, you are right. I will have to look at that video again. I'd hate to be giving bad info. Panama Club maybe? An investigation is in order.

If you got a copy of it, put the relevant section on you tube or something so we can all see. You know my interest in LV. I could get a lot of laughs and mileage out of that.

Cienega32
06-05-07, 03:30
Here's the story (shorter than the original one) and the video:


http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=6605627&nav=menu193_2

Clydesdale
06-05-07, 03:47
Here's the story (shorter than the original one) and the video:


http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=6605627&nav=menu193_2

That looks like Panama.

Doubt98
06-05-07, 04:29
I was in the area on business and thought I might make a trip over. But, I left my passport at home. What else could I use for documents to re-enter the US?
I look like a white guy from the mid-west if that helps?

Cienega32
06-05-07, 04:47
That looks like Panama.
I think what threw me was the mention, after the part of the 4 minors dancing, of "right across the street" the doors were locked.

So now the question is who had the 4 minors dancing?

Cienega32
06-05-07, 04:49
I was in the area on business and thought I might make a trip over. But, I left my passport at home. What else could I use for documents to re-enter the US?
I look like a white guy from the mid-west if that helps?If your country of citizenship is the "United States of America" (they like hearing it said that way, I find) then your driver's license still works at this time.

Bbond
06-05-07, 06:18
That looks like Panama.
Won't swear to it, but I kinda think so too.

Bbond
06-05-07, 06:24
From what I can acertain, La Tuna, El Sinaloa, The Beach, and Edoardo’s were the bars closed.

Bbond
06-05-07, 06:26
I was in the area on business and thought I might make a trip over. But, I left my passport at home. What else could I use for documents to re-enter the US?
I look like a white guy from the mid-west if that helps?

I am rarely asked for ID, but on occasion they do, once I was asked for more than just a DL, asked if I had any other ID, I showed some bank cards, said that was all I had. He asked for SS card, I told him you are not supposed to carry your SS card so I don't.

Toni Ten
06-06-07, 01:39
War with Mexico, new we should not have put up those fences.

TT (the take your kids out now one)

Lucke
06-06-07, 03:05
I ask again. What is the best way to handle when a chica trys to upsell? I want to be stern, but not impolite enough to ruin the mood for either of us. If you guys could share with me your stratergies for getting the best deal you can in that situation, I will be greatful. I am new to this, and would appreciate the info/advice. I have searched the forums and not found any useful info on this subject. I am going over tomorrow, and would like to have a better experience than my only other time over.

Thanks and good hunting!

Cienega32
06-06-07, 04:53
I am rarely asked for ID, but on occasion they do, once I was asked for more than just a DL, asked if I had any other ID, I showed some bank cards, said that was all I had. He asked for SS card, I told him you are not supposed to carry your SS card so I don't.After living in Las Vegas all those years, it was hard to break the habit of carrying the SS card with me all the time. Needed for taxable jackpots. I haven't looked recently but don't they still say "Not a form of ID" or something to that effect?

When I come back over the border, I always stop before I go in and pull my license out to have ready to hand to the troll ("You must answer 3 questions before you pass...") - haha.

Mugroso
06-06-07, 06:17
I ask again. What is the best way to handle when a chica trys to upsell? I want to be stern, but not impolite enough to ruin the mood for either of us. If you guys could share with me your stratergies for getting the best deal you can in that situation, I will be greatful. I am new to this, and would appreciate the info/advice. I have searched the forums and not found any useful info on this subject. I am going over tomorrow, and would like to have a better experience than my only other time over.

Thanks and good hunting!

Lets do a little math. In a downtown bar you will pay on the average 60 bucks for half an hour. In an MP you will pay 30 to 40 for an hour of service. So an upsell of 10 to 20 bucks isn't that bad by comparison in my opinion.

Some guys feel that servicio completo should be just that and I agree. It is a sort of bait and switch thing.

So I can go both ways on this issue. But if you don't want to ruin the mood, politely decline or accept the offer and all should be well.

Mugroso

Mugroso
06-06-07, 06:24
When I come back over the border, I always stop before I go in and pull my license out to have ready to hand to the troll ("You must answer 3 questions before you pass...") - haha.


Ala Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

KEEPER: Stop! Who approaches the Bridge of Death must answer me
these questions three, 'ere the other side he see.
KEEPER: What is your name?
Mugroso: My name is Sir Mugroso of Camelot.
KEEPER: What is your quest?
Mugroso: To seek the Holy Panocha.
KEEPER: What is your favorite color?
Mugroso: Blue.
KEEPER: Right. Off you go.
Mugroso: Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.

Cienega32: That's easy!
KEEPER: Stop! Who approaches the Bridge of Death must answer me
these questions three, 'ere the other side he see.
Cienega32: Ask me the questions, bridge-keeper. I'm not afraid.
KEEPER: What is your name?
Cienega32: Sir Cienega32 of Camelot.
KEEPER: What is your quest?
Cienega32: To seek the Holy Panocha.
KEEPER: What is the capital of Assyria?
Cienega32: I don't know that! Auuuuuuuugh!

Sir Mugroso

Bbond
06-06-07, 15:43
I ask again. What is the best way to handle when a chica trys to upsell? I want to be stern, but not impolite enough to ruin the mood for either of us. If you guys could share with me your stratergies for getting the best deal you can in that situation, I will be greatful. I am new to this, and would appreciate the info/advice. I have searched the forums and not found any useful info on this subject. I am going over tomorrow, and would like to have a better experience than my only other time over.

Thanks and good hunting!
If you want to pay the extra, simply agree, if you don't, simply decline.
Declining may get you a rush job cause you just pissed her off, may not.
Typically the girls get 1/2 of what you pay for the visit, but 100% of the upsell.
So a $30 massage w/sex, she gets $15, yes she is having sex for $15. You pay $30 but all she gets is $15.
I have never been upsold, or even asked for a tip, at Genesis, or Marylins.
Can't say that about most other places tho.

Billy Monger
06-06-07, 17:07
The USA Customs people are for the most part a humorless bunch. I’ve had more problems with the females than the males, one in particular at the Zaragoza Bridge who pulled me aside and checked my car from stem to stern. What she suspected about a fifty-eight year old white guy driving a ‘90 Fleetwood Caddy I’ll never know. At the Paso del Norte (Santa Fe) Bridge downtown I am rarely asked for identification when returning in my car but as a rule I have my passport or Texas drivers license at the ready in view. As a pedestrian I have been asked for I. D. More often.

When asked your country of citizenship it is tempting after several hours of struggling with your Spanish in Juarez to blurt out, "Estados Unidos! ". Not a good move. As Cienega32 stated earlier say very forcefully, "United States of America". If you are endowed with a southern accent as I am it seems to have a very positive effect. Also when asked the purpose of my visit I have answered, "Just pumping a little money into the Mexican economy so they won’t have to come over here" or "Visiting my girlfriend and my children". Those comments have generated the closest thing to a smile the latter no doubt because of my age.

Espina Heart
06-06-07, 17:43
Ala Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Most excellent analogy Sir Mugroso. I'm still chuckling! As to the matter of passage across the bridge thru the trolls, the company from which I bought mexican car insurance last Nov. for some r&r in Pto. Penasco, recently emailed me with the announcement that for foot or vehicle traffic into the frontera would still only require a drivers license thru June of 2009 now. They realize they need an id card system in lieu of passports for frequent border crossers, but can't get it up and in place until then. Not sure about this, but they claimed they'd researched it thoroughly.

spine

Cienega32
06-06-07, 18:56
The USA Customs people are for the most part a humorless bunch. {} What she suspected about a fifty-eight year old white guy driving a ‘90 Fleetwood Caddy I’ll never know. {}

I can't remember if it was Tijuana or Juarez - more than likely Juarez but after driving back with the top down in the 2-seater, "the man", with a grin on his face said, "Now you look like the kind of guy that would have a trunkful of Havanas - pop it please." I thought it was rather witty with me being a 50ish white guy with nothing in the easily viewed interior.

One walk-back, when I was asked, "What are you bringing back from Mexico?", I responded with, "Not a thing [3 second pause] ... I hope not, anyway...". That earned me the obligatory 1/4 grin.

As far as "What's your country of citizenship" - being that there is more than one country that uses "United States" I figured I would be 'complete' about it and state it with a confident, respectful pride. The guy looked up and with a facial expression that showed appreciation said, "You couldn't have said that any more perfectly". "It's the only way I know how to say it, Sir".

I know one thing - I'm sure they're grateful for that curfew ordinance and probably wish it it was 25 and under. They don't ever look too thrilled at 2AM on a weekend nite.

Bbond
06-06-07, 21:30
the company from which I bought mexican car insurance last Nov. for some r&r in Pto. Penasco, recently emailed me with the announcement that for foot or vehicle traffic into the frontera would still only require a drivers license thru June of 2009 now.

SpineThe web site still says:

As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security. While recent legislative changes permit a later deadline, the Departments of State and Homeland Security are working to meet all requirements as soon as possible.

Another site says:

Passports will supposedly be required for all land and sea border crossings into the US sometime in 2008 or by June 1, 2009 at the latest. However, three things may happen between now and then:

* The PASS card passport substitute may be unveiled
* High-tech driver's licenses may be introduced for border crossing purposes
* Teens under 18 may be allowed to continue crossing borders with only a birth certificate, as is currently possible.

Lucke
06-07-07, 07:02
If you want to pay the extra, simply agree, if you don't, simply decline.

Declining may get you a rush job cause you just pissed her off, may not.
Typically the girls get 1/2 of what you pay for the visit, but 100% of the upsell.
So a $30 massage w/sex, she gets $15, yes she is having sex for $15. You pay $30 but all she gets is $15.

I have never been upsold, or even asked for a tip, at Genesis, or Marylins.

Can't say that about most other places tho.I guess I should have included some additional info. The chica, named Mia [Luxxor], wanted an additional $40 for a cbj, and an additional $80 for a bbbj. This is much more than a mere $10 or $20. As it was my first time ever, it really ruined the mood for me. I declined, and felt totally ripped off. I state this, because I had been in email contact with the momaita / momisan of Luxxor. I had been very specific in my desires, and was told via email that what I wanted was included in the original $40. Having found this website and done research, I now know that I was given bad info by the momasita / momisan. Still, Mia's upsell was a little on the steep side [IMHO]. If I want to be screwed financially by a woman, I just call the ex-wife....lol

The big surprise was the after I declined, Mia was still most ready to please me, just not in all the ways I had been promised.

Lucke
06-07-07, 07:08
The web site still says:

As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required.The key word here is "May." I still expect border state US Senators (both Mexican and Canadian border states) to enact legislation to prevent this, as I am sure that many of them are receiving lots of complaints about this new rule. But, I may be way off base. It is just my guess. Time will tell.

Lucke
06-07-07, 07:48
It being my birthday (6-6), I decided to take a second shot at the Juarez experience. Despite my reservations, I decided to head back to Luxxor. I did this because of familiarity. So, off I went. I called ahead of time, only to be told that there was no one who could pick me up at the bridge. I don't feel comfortable with driving over yet. Just don't know the place well enough. I did not let the lack of driver stop my expedition. I hoofed it over to Luxxor. A long walk from the bridge. Upon entering, I told the chicas that I was tired from the walk and needed to rest in the billiards room. I did this for two reasons. First, I wanted to impliment my new plan of seeing which Chicas would be most interested in seperating me from my money. And Secondly, because I was a little tired from the hot walk. Five Chicas followed me into the pool room. 2 were whales, 1 was super thin, and the other two were somewhere in between. One of the in betweeners, Marisol (not sure of spelling), engaged me in decent english. She was quite flirty. I would rate her face as a 7 and her body as a 7.5 (with 9 for the tits). Being a tit man, I decided to take her in the room. Using my new ISG based skills, I began the whole conversation by getting right to the point. I told her I wanted FS AND a BBBJ. We negotiated an additional $30 for the BBBJ. Maybe a good deal, maybe not. But at least this time I knew what to expect, as well as had the opportunity to ask for another chica, were it needed. I had not given her the original $40 yet. Once she made the walk to split the $40 with the house, it was straight to business. We began with DFK, titty play and gropping. She then gave me one of the best BBBJs I have had in years. She could suck a _________ out of/ off of or through a _________ (fill in the blanks with your favorite cliche'). We then proceded into mish, then cg, then perrito, then back to mish, then finished. This was litterally the first time in my life that I had ever been able to orgasm while wearing a jimmy hat/raincoat/etc. This is an issue I worried about as to my ability to even begin down the road of mongering.

I then went back to the pool room and played for about an hour, when the momasita walked by and said something about me in spanish. I asked Marisol what she said. I was told she said that I must be gay to want to play pool instead of going to the room. Not appreciated on my part. I am sure that she is the same Luxxor momasita that others have complained about on here. She even at one point blurted out a rude comment about Stuart, right in front of him. I guess it is just her way.

After some soul searching, and a little help from Marisol, I selected another chica to finish off the old birthday right. Marisol even translated/negotiated on my behalf. Now that is service! The new chica, named Bella, was a smaller, younger model with a 8.5 face and a 7 body. I had noticed her when I first arrived, and decided that I had to have her. We went into the room, but only for fs. No DFK, no BJ of any kind. But, I knew this going in. Once she made it back from the money trip, it was straight to business. We went into mish, then doggie while standing, then wheelbarrow, then she laid on the table on her side while I stood. She seemed to like that. Finally back to mish. And my heart began to give out a little, so I had to stop (I have a heart condition). She was fun, cute, and willing. I was just tuckered out. We showered and I left.

Overall I would have to say that my second experience at Luxxor was much better than the first. Mainly because I knew the 'rules' of the game. Thank you all for your wonderful guidance, tips, and general directions. Though, the selection of chicas was not a good this time. I guess it goes to show that sometimes the older, not so beautiful chicas try a little harder to give good service.

Happy Hunting, and color me out!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Travler08
06-07-07, 08:12
The first time I went down to NL I drove my car across with a friend. We stayed a few days and had a great time. When going through customs the guard asked what we were doing in Mexico. I replied " Partying". Not good!

My car was torn apart and we were delayed for about an hour. We then got the song and dance about how dangerous it was. I told him I felt very safe inside Papagyous. Agian he saw no humor.

Be carefull,

Travler08

Cienega32
06-07-07, 09:07
SAN ANTONIO -- Gov. Rick Perry wants a ruling from the state's top attorney before Texas creates a driver license that could act as a passport and make it easier for U.S. citizens to return from Mexico.
"While frequent travelers to Mexico argue that the use of a passport creates an unnecessary burden, this is not a decision to be made at the state level," Perry wrote Wednesday in a statement attached to a wide-ranging homeland security bill he signed Wednesday.

The bill also includes a provision that expands the ability of law enforcement agencies to do wiretapping.

The enhanced driver license proposal in the legislation was written by state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso.

Under the program, the Texas Department of Public Safety would implant chips in driver licenses to store citizenship information typically included on a passport. The licenses could then be scanned at border checkpoints to verify the information.

{full story}:
http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_6079075

Treewalker
06-08-07, 00:16
So my girlfriend is coming in for the weekend and will cross over for dental. She is a wild one and like women but wouldn't do a 3some with 2 men, ohh lucky me.

Was just wondering if anyone ever actually took one across and added another on the other side? I may just get a girl for her if she wants. Anyone know "Paola the Lesbian" who hung at Lauras on occassion but was one hot young chick, an easy 9, coulda stripped anywhere IMO.

I also need to pretend like I don't know what I'm doin over there...If someone gives me advice I can say "this guy told me to go here and ask for______" without that stupid look like I'm lying my ass off.

On second thought if I go to El Cntro and a bunch of SWs
recognize me and start running up and calling me by name I guess the ride back home wouldn't be all that fun.

Plus this chick speaks spanish and she has a jealousy problem.

Bbond
06-08-07, 01:13
On second thought if I go to El Cntro and a bunch of SWs
recognize me and start running up and calling me by name I guess the ride back home wouldn't be all that fun.

Plus this chick speaks spanish and she has a jealousy problem.

Been my experience, if you are with a girl, the other girls won't bother you, unless they know the girl you are with.

Why take that chance tho, do some scouting on your own.

Bbond
06-08-07, 01:16
Just a heads up.

I personally know a girl, from Juarez, that recently tested positive for TB.

Just something else to think about when you cross into Mexico where their health standards are a bit lower than we are accustomed to.



Worldwide Deaths from Tuberculosis: TB is the world's leading cause of death from a single infectious organism, killing 2 million people each year. The TB crisis has intensified because multidrug-resistant (MDR) microbes have emerged. An incurable form of the disease may develop from infections caused by these organisms. WHO estimates more than 50 million people worldwide may be infected with MDR strains of TB.

The recent case involving the guy from Denver should issue a mild wakeup call.

Gino the Rod
06-08-07, 05:06
Been my experience, if you are with a girl, the other girls won't bother you, unless they know the girl you are with.

Why take that chance tho, do some scouting on your own.I went to Joker's Gold in April with a hot stripper/escort friend from Houston. It was like I turned radioactive. Even the dancers that knew me wouldn't come and say hello.

I talked to our waiter about it and he confirmed my impression. The girls simply will assume she is your GF and will keep their distance so as to not get you in trouble.

That being said, my friend arranged with the waiter to go do a privado with a dancer she liked and she said it was HOT, rubbing tits together, kissing. I've been back and haven't found her again, what with all the rotations the Jokers clubs keep doing. Oh, yeah, the name of the dancer was... Sh*t, I can't remember, something English-souding, beginning with E. Ah, yes, Enigma!

Have fun, play safe,

Gino

Clydesdale
06-08-07, 07:47
Looks like you may be able to fly to Latin America a little longer without a passport.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19102766/

Cienega32
06-08-07, 19:04
Is this over by the Parque Industrial Bermudez area?


Juarez on 'high alert' after multiple shootings
June 7, 2007 11:19 PM MDT

EL PASO, Tx. - The City of Juarez is on high alert as authorities take to the streets with high- powered rifles in the wake of several shooting deaths.

Police in Juarez are reeling from a series of violent murders and now the city is scrambling to prevent a bloody battle between drug dealers. Federal, state, and local officers are now swarming the streets armed with a lot of guns.

The situation started last Wednesday when a municipal police officer and a state officer were shot and killed with a machine gun in the Campestre area of central Juarez.

Juarez authorities tell ABC-7 $3000 was found in their patrol car, which leads investigators to believe that the two officers were working with the drug dealers.

Then Wednesday night, two state police officers on patrol were also gunned down with a machine gun. Investigators said the officers had nothing to do with drug involvement, they believe the officers were killed just to prove a point!

Early Thursday morning, another retaliation, also in the Campestre area. Two men were inside a brand new Chrysler 300. They too were killed when someone opened fire on them with a machine gun.

Juarez authorities tell ABC-7 that the car had 5 guns inside, and they men are believed to be hit men. That shooting was followed by another shooting just a block from a Municipal Police Station, resulting in the death of yet another man.

After the latest shooting, city officials said they had enough. Officials issued 360 rifles to officers on the street; plus they brought in federal and state officers, adding 200 more law enforcement officials to the streets of Juarez.

Officials have set up checkpoints all over the city. They say that vehicles with tinted windows will be searched for guns. They add that this alert will remain in effect until further notice.

http://www.kvia.com/global/story.asp?s=6629870

Bbond
06-08-07, 22:43
Looks like you may be able to fly to Latin America a little longer without a passport.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19102766/

The requirement was in place, but they have lifted it, BUT, you have to have proof that you have applied for the passport.

Coyote79
06-09-07, 05:02
I guess I should have included some additional info. The chica, named Mia [Luxxor], wanted an additional $40 for a cbj, and an additional $80 for a bbbj. This is much more than a mere $10 or $20. As it was my first time ever, it really ruined the mood for me. I declined, and felt totally ripped off. I state this, because I had been in email contact with the momaita / momisan of Luxxor. I had been very specific in my desires, and was told via email that what I wanted was included in the original $40. Having found this website and done research, I now know that I was given bad info by the momasita / momisan. Still, Mia's upsell was a little on the steep side [IMHO]. If I want to be screwed financially by a woman, I just call the ex-wife....lol

The big surprise was the after I declined, Mia was still most ready to please me, just not in all the ways I had been promised.

The "momasita/momisan"? You mean Soriya?
Last time I was at Luxxor I complained to her about the chica's upsell.
Her reaction was to get on the phone & talk trash about me.
So I'm not surprised that catty little B*I*T*C*H would give you incorrect info.

That was about 2-3 years ago. I never went back.
Humiliation sticks in your head.

Coyote79
06-09-07, 17:31
Thanks for the great report on Sirenas. I assume the standard rate of 40 dollars per hour applies? How much did you pay? Left a "good tip" how much? I really enjoyed Sirenas that they don't pressure you, try to upsell you, and certainly don't ask for a tip. They can actually message great in addition to FS.

I think I left her $20.
I've been looking for her but haven't been able to find her.
20 yo affectionate hottie. . .what a fantasy. . .


Guys I listened like a good little Guero for years and never took the buses walking everywhere. Then I took the buses and found I could get around much better and learned the routes and streets. I listened like a good little Guero for years and never drove until about 2 years ago. Now I drive over all time. I do highly recommending bringing a buddy who speaks Spanish in case you get stopped by the cops. Besides isn't it more fun to hear your buddy slamming away in the next cubicle? Fuck wataburger, and comparing notes on your hamburguesas take your buddy to Sirenas!

The only problems I've ever seen in the vacinity of juarez have been problems at the bridge. On the USA Side and the Mexican side. Its the one piece of useful information people told me that has been confirmed over and over again. You are asking for trouble if you try to cross the bridge alone in the evenings.
funny, I agree with your advise--but I don't follow it :-)

Coyote79
06-09-07, 17:41
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, so take step one and try a margarita at kentucky club and get a quick mesaje at Cleopatra's on the other side of Juarez Ave. My friend and I were quoted $35 for one hour yesterday (5/24/07).
actually I think that's good advice for mongers new to Juarez because both of the above are only about a block from the bridge. Plus it's cheap.

I know a lot of new mongers are advised to go to Pink Ladies. But unless it's changed a lot in the past two years, IMHO Pink Ladies is a rip-off.

Palamides
06-09-07, 18:04
The "momasita/momisan"? You mean Soriya?

Last time I was at Luxxor I complained to her about the chica's upsell.

Her reaction was to get on the phone & talk trash about me.

So I'm not surprised that catty little B*I*T*C*H would give you incorrect info.

That was about 2-3 years ago. I never went back.

Humiliation sticks in your head.First, let me say that I prefer to go a little bit down the foodchain looks wise so as not to deal with the "attitude" and the "upsell. " That elimates Venus and Luxor who do have the prettiest girls. First, Sir, you are at a mesaje which are legal in mexico but as we've seen on the message board the "other services" may not be authorized. Remember they are supposed to be well trained in message even taking classes in that art.

The owner or employees basically could only say everything is included in the $40. I've had the guy there personally tell me "whatever you work out with the girl in the room is your own business. " So he is not taking ownership of those activities for practical reasons.

There is a sucker born every minute and I don't blame the girls for asking for the sky, stars, whatever. They are qualifying you to see what you want and how much you are willing to pay. You just have to be firm and stick to your guns. Hopefully there are a few acceptable girls in the establishment you chose so you can come to a mutual agreement/understanding.

My recommendation if you want to start off with the $40 is go to Sirenas. The $40 entitles you to 1hr mesaje, blowjob, fuck. Then if you want anything else I'm sure they would be willing to negotiate.

Clydesdale
06-09-07, 18:36
Another building came down, that group of taco stands across from Ano Nuevo.

My Freedom
06-09-07, 22:58
It appears that Sirenas is the better choice of MPs. Where is it?

Anyone know when closings will take place with?:

4-10 Club
Panama Club
Hotel Rex

Actually, though the Downtown area may not be the fanciest in Juarez, the shootings that are taking place, and will likely continue to happen, most often occur in the more affluent areas, close to the Campestre. I know that area best and actually feel somewhat safer downtown. But anytime one is in a country other than the USA, we are at our own risk always.

Careful out there.

My Freedom

Coyote79
06-10-07, 18:42
Ok, dude here is the deal...

First, let me say that I prefer to go a little bit down the foodchain looks wise so as not to deal with the "attitude" and the "upsell. " That elimates Venus and Luxor who do have the prettiest girls. First, Sir, you are at a mesaje which are legal in mexico but as we've seen on the message board the "other services" may not be authorized. Remember they are supposed to be well trained in message even taking classes in that art.

The owner or employees basically could only say everything is included in the $40. I've had the guy there personally tell me "whatever you work out with the girl in the room is your own business. " So he is not taking ownership of those activities for practical reasons.

There is a sucker born every minute and I don't blame the girls for asking for the sky, stars, whatever. They are qualifying you to see what you want and how much you are willing to pay. You just have to be firm and stick to your guns. Hopefully there are a few acceptable girls in the establishment you chose so you can come to a mutual agreement/understanding.

My recommendation if you want to start off with the $40 is go to Sirenas. The $40 entitles you to 1hr mesaje, blowjob, fuck. Then if you want anything else I'm sure they would be willing to negotiate.
Parts of your post are interesting.

Other parts--no offense and with all due respect--seem a little condescending & judgmental.

Besides, the point of my original post was about how rude Soriya was, not so much about upsell.

BTW I do pay for upsell at Venus, because at least the girls are upfront about it.

Palamides
06-10-07, 19:41
Parts of your post are interesting.

Other parts have a kind-of condescending lecture quality (no offense).

Besides, the point of my original post was about how rude Soriya was, not so much about upsell.

BTW I do pay for upsell at Venus, because at least the girls are upfront about it.Ahhh. Sorry about the perception of condecending it truely wasnt intended. You should see some of the comments I get on my original posts. At least you saw the humor in my other musings. I am still waiting to get slammed for my drivel I posted from last week.

Coyote79
06-10-07, 23:24
Paraiso:
Price: $40 per hour.
Ladies: Two working—one 6; one 4. (both were chunky).
Left.

Sirenas:
Price: $40 per hour.
Ladies: Three working—chose “Elle”.

She’s maybe 24 yo with a little belly but still good looking.
Light skinned with black hair & eyes.
She sticks a wig-like thing on the back of her head.

She has kind-of an attitude—she wouldn’t put her hair down, she’s not very affectionate, and she gives the impression that she doesn't want you to talk to her.

But she did let me do most everything I wanted.

In other words, she was fun but I wouldn’t repeat. Kept my tip money--but I did give her a few sticks of gum :-)

Coyote79
06-10-07, 23:26
Paraiso:
Price: $40 per hour
Ladies: One working. About a 6. Slightly chubby; late 20’s to early 30’s.
Left.

Sirenas:
Price $40 per hour.
Ladies: Three working. One big girl, one older lady, and Elle.
Left.
(I asked for Luanna--a gorgeous, affectionate, passionate 20 yo morena I saw about a month ago-- but either I got the name wrong or she’s left. Either way I can never find her)

Bar next to El Encanto (don’t know the name):
Price: ?
Ladies: About 8 girls. Range from 6 to 9.
Offered to take one lady to the room upstairs, but she declined & started laughing.
Does anyone know what that bar is all about?

Venus:
Price $40 per for 45 minutes. BJ extra.
Ladies: I saw two ladies. I was told four more were in the rooms. All the ladies I saw were good looking.
Chose Mayra. Lots of fun.

Yeah, most of us knows Venus upsells & usually the girls have an attitude, but IMHO it’s usually worth it considering how much more attractive (on average) they are than the other places.

Coyote79
06-10-07, 23:28
Cleopatra’s:
Price: $35 per hour.
Ladies: One girl working. A little chubby, but kind-of cute & younger—like early twenties.
I went back to the room with her, but the bitchy way she looked at me turned-me off, so I walked. She looked really bitchy after that. . .too funny. . .

Sirenas:
Price: $40 per hour.
Ladies: Five ladies. Same three ladies that were working Wednesday, plus one chubby girl and Arleth.
Arleth was busy, so I bailed.

El Encanto
Price: $35 or $40. . .not sure. . .
Ladies: WHOLLY SHIT!! Two ladies working. Both were about a 2.
I bailed. Besides, I only went there because I was desperate.

One of the ladies offered service for $30 as I was walking out, but I declined.

Bar next to El Encanto (name?)
Price: ?
Ladies: About seven. . .they didn't look bad, but all were a little thick. . .
Chatted with one lady (not easy when you don't know the same language) who said she was working. . .but she wasn't exactly my fantasy, so I paid for my beer ($3) & left. . .

Michel’s
Price: $30 to $40. . .can’t remember the price the manager quoted me. . .usually I always pay $30 for an “hour” at Michel’s, but then after about 25 minutes the manager is yelling at the girl to hurry up. . .
Ladies: One chubby blond white girl was working.
I bailed.

Venus:
Price $40 per for 45 minutes. BJ extra.
Ladies: I called ahead for Mayra, and she was the only one I saw working when I arrived.
She didn’t disappoint.
Saw one hottie blond girl as I was leaving.

Coyote79
06-11-07, 00:29
It appears that Sirenas is the better choice of MPs. Where is it?


Sirenas is on the corner of Hnos. Escobar, Panama, & Tlaxcala.
It's across from the Villa Manport Hotel.
El Encanto is less than a block away on across the street.

It's about a 30 minute walk from all three bridges.

Right now they have slim pickins.
But the girls are always coming & going, so maybe after a couple of weeks they'll have a better selection.

BTW whatever happened to that fat lady (manager?) who has always attached to the couch in the lobby? She wasn't there last week.

Cienega32
06-11-07, 04:43
Bar next to El Encanto (don’t know the name):
Price: ?
Ladies: About 8 girls. Range from 6 to 9.
Offered to take one lady to the room upstairs, but she declined & started laughing.
Does anyone know what that bar is all about?

Being everyone usually, very easily scores at that bar - Papaguayo's, you must have been dressed funny.

Only kidding - only kidding. I've only been in the there a few times. after hitting El Herraderro, and it seems to be just a "company" bar with the girls behind the bar available for chatting and sharing cocktails with. I would imagine, that after some invested time, you 'might' be able to connect but I've also seen some cuties walk in from the street and wondered if they may have been from the MPs in the area.

That's my take on it but I've just gone there to relax after a big steak and wasn't in monger mode.

Coyote79
06-11-07, 05:33
Being everyone usually, very easily scores at that bar - Papaguayo's, you must have been dressed funny.

Only kidding - only kidding. I've only been in the there a few times. after hitting El Herraderro, and it seems to be just a "company" bar with the girls behind the bar available for chatting and sharing cocktails with. I would imagine, that after some invested time, you 'might' be able to connect but I've also seen some cuties walk in from the street and wondered if they may have been from the MPs in the area.

That's my take on it but I've just gone there to relax after a big steak and wasn't in monger mode.
that's what I don't get. . .the ladies seem to be working. . .you pay them to chat? Since I'm Spanish challenged, that's not going to be easy. . .don't they want to make some money doing the real thing?

Bbond
06-11-07, 05:58
that's what I don't get. . .the ladies seem to be working. . .you pay them to chat? Since I'm Spanish challenged, that's not going to be easy. . .don't they want to make some money doing the real thing?

You buy them drinks for their companionship.

Some will prolly work outside, but not many.

Cienega32
06-11-07, 09:11
that's what I don't get. . .the ladies seem to be working. . .you pay them to chat? Since I'm Spanish challenged, that's not going to be easy. . .don't they want to make some money doing the real thing?
Like Bbond said - you buy them drinks and stay and chat. And like you said - they chat in Spanish. Haha. Or at least when I go they do. I'm Espanol challanged as well so it can be both comical and frustrating. I've seen a customer or two leave with his server but not knowing the relationship between the two, I can't comment.

I enjoy it for the no expectation, kicked back feel of having your own private barmaid while enjoying the after-steak dinner yawns. It also seems to work after a visit to the MP as well...

Coyote79
06-11-07, 12:51
You buy them drinks for their companionship.

Some will prolly work outside, but not many.
okay. . .like what they do in Japan. . .but all the ladies get are free drinks?. .
I'm guessing they still get paid something from the bar. . .(they should for $3 domestic beers). . .

If I were a chick, my idea of a fun evening wouldn't be chatting with mongers just to get them to buy me drinks. . .

Bbond
06-11-07, 13:20
If I were a chick, my idea of a fun evening wouldn't be chatting with mongers just to get them to buy me drinks. . .


That's what they do. There are several bars in Juarez with the exact same MO.

Justsomeim
06-11-07, 22:25
Sirenas is on the corner of Hnos. Escobar, Panama, & Tlaxcala.
It's across from the Villa Manport Hotel.

El Encanto is less than a block away on across the street.

It's about a 30 minute walk from all three bridges.

Right now they have slim pickins.

But the girls are always coming & going, so maybe after a couple of weeks they'll have a better selection.

BTW whatever happened to that fat lady (manager?) who has always attached to the couch in the lobby? She wasn't there last week.Everytime I make it into Sirena's the same fat lady manager is sitting on the couch BSing with somebody, she gave me a big wink the other day and I didn't know how to take it.

Coyote, love your reporting, great info, and what times are you goin over?

Coyote79
06-12-07, 08:03
Everytime I make it into Sirena's the same fat lady manager is sitting on the couch BSing with somebody, she gave me a big wink the other day and I didn't know how to take it.

Coyote, love your reporting, great info, and what times are you goin over?
yeah thanks. . .I usually go over between 7 to 9 PM. . .I don't recommend going at that time--that's just how it works out for me. . .

Maybe you should hit that fat lady--she's got to be sugar momma material. . .

About a year ago a monger posted she was Arleth's girlfriend--I got to see those two go at it :-)

Svtlord
06-13-07, 02:39
About a year ago a monger posted she was Arleth's girlfriend--I got to see those two go at it :-)


Yup, that;s what Arleth told me

Clydesdale
06-13-07, 04:07
Anyone familiar with Pachanga in the market place near the Cathedral? I ran into Claudia from Las Vegas on Ave Juarez today and she was headed to work there. She asked me to come with her, but I had a date. Some of the bars around there look rough. The name makes it sound interesting.

Mugroso
06-13-07, 06:16
Anyone familiar with Pachanga in the market place near the Cathedral? I ran into Claudia from Las Vegas on Ave Juarez today and she was headed to work there. She asked me to come with her, but I had a date. Some of the bars around there look rough. The name makes it sound interesting.

Pachangas is that spooky bar in the mercado we went into on the first palooza, remember? I wonder why she is going there.

Cienega32
06-13-07, 07:46
Pachangas is that spooky bar in the mercado we went into on the first palooza, remember? I wonder why she is going there.
Is that one of those bars in the area of where the street vendors were run off?

Cienega32
06-14-07, 09:52
Is it just me or are the Casa girls getting better looking and more abundant?

Clydesdale
06-14-07, 17:25
Is it just me or are the Casa girls getting better looking and more abundant?
Last night I saw Ruby from Pink Lady's at the Casa. That alone brings the class up a couple of notches.

Clydesdale
06-15-07, 00:51
i guess that curfew ordinance will make a big change on the landscape after all!

i just watched a little news video showing the policia scaling the front door wall on what looked like las vegas. scaling the wall because the establishment locked the doors!

something about **** dancers working in clubs... shame on them. looking at the video again, they mentioned that the wall scaling was right across the street from where the 4 minors were working as dancers. i guess that would be hollywood.

la tuna was closed because of a fight with security as well.



i went back over some old photos i had and i might not know what i'm talking about, as far as the clubs mentioned. anyone able to name the club that locked the doors before the cops got there?
i looked at panama - it's definitely not that. the place next to 4-10 has a door and wall exactly like that.

Cienega32
06-15-07, 07:33
I looked at Panama - it's definitely not that. The place next to 4-10 has a door and wall exactly like that.
That's funny. When I told you about the La Fiesta pics I was going to mention that about Panama and forgot.

The thing that gets me is, in the video, they say that the bar locked up after seeing the 'raids' occurring across the street.

I meant to check the 4-10 block and that "SW/MP" Wikimap entry but got stuck at Casa and... forgot.

On another note - Chelo (door chick at Virginia'a) is at Centro Lagorda (Fatty Central) now. She's a barrel sized woman and was the thinnest one there. But she said that Irma's might be moving to the old Green Lantern. Why, I don't know.

I see they're tearing down a few old buildings on Franco Villa by the bullring as well.

There was something else to mention but alas... I forget.

Cienega32
06-16-07, 05:13
The curfew has been extended to a city-wide enforcement issue. The news stated that the youngsters under 18 were going to the Pronaf district nite-clubs after the El Centro enforcement.

Coyote79
06-17-07, 00:08
Paraiso:
12:30 PM
One plain looking blond girl working.
She suggested I come back at 2 PM when more chicas arrive.

Venus:
About 1 PM.
Expected to see hotties with an attitude at Venus, and I got exactly what I expected :-)
Four very good-looking girls working.

Chose “Michelle.”
Short dark hair and eyes, medium complexion, about 5'2" and 110 lbs; "C" cup, maybe 20 yo. Speaks some English.
FUCKING GORGEOUS!!
Everything was great for the first 20 minutes, then she got very annoyed & bitchy.
I'd understand if I was being a jerk, but I was doing my best to be considerate & polite.
After I finished she stormed out of the room & wouldn’t speak to me again.
(so, darn the luck, I didn’t have an opportunity to tip her :-)

Don't choose Michelle if you want any affection. Even when I offered a $20 tip she wouldn't even let me kiss her on the cheek.

In fact I'd only recommend Michelle if you're willing to pay $40 for 20 minutes of very functionary action. . .plus you have to be careful about everything you do because everything annoys her. . .

Other Stuff
Very hot day. . .actually took four showers today—1 before mongering, 1 before the session, 1 after the session, and 1 upon arriving home. Shit, I usually don’t take four showers in a week :-)

Walking back the pedestrian gate at the free bridge was was so backed-up with people all the way outside near the restrooms. Border patrol then tried to rush everyone through—they didn’t even ask my citizenship. . .

Crossing at night on the free bridge it’s usually the vehicle gate that’s hella backed-up. The pedestrian gate usually has no line at all.

Cienega32
06-17-07, 01:30
Walking back the pedestrian gate at the free bridge was was so backed-up with people all the way outside near the restrooms. Border patrol then tried to rush everyone through—they didn’t even ask my citizenship. . .

Crossing at night on the free bridge it’s usually the vehicle gate that’s hella backed-up. The pedestrian gate usually has no line at all.Coyote - where do you park when you use the Free Bridge?

I've never entered thru that side - only Santa Fe.

Clydesdale
06-17-07, 02:02
Coyote - where do you park when you use the Free Bridge?

I've never entered thru that side - only Santa Fe.

If you're only there during the daytime you can park in Chamizal Park (the El Paso one). I don't know what time the park closes.

Coyote79
06-17-07, 03:00
Coyote - where do you park when you use the Free Bridge?

I've never entered thru that side - only Santa Fe.
I park off one of the side streets off Copia--across from the bike shop. . .

I suppose you could park at Chamizal, but don't see any parking there.

Cienega32
06-17-07, 06:39
I went to Chamizal once last year and the guard said that as well but you would need to be back before they close. I think he said that they used to have a lot area for border parking once upon a time.

So I guess there are no public parking areas like on Santa Fe? That comes in handy for me if I change plans mid-course and stay overnite - no worries and 3 more bucks when I leave.

Doubt98
06-17-07, 13:54
Thanks to all the info from the board and the map that is listed in ealier posts. I made a quick trip over the border. Due to the limited time I hit just a few spots and all in all it was a decent evening.

I started in the centro area and was about lost but saw the Sans Soui, went in to check it out and was not greatly impressed. A girl named America walks up and is pleasent enough. About 5'6", 120. 7 in looks. I get her up to the room for 35us for 30 minutes. 9 on the attitude, but had some baby damage that was hidden downstairs, give it a 7. Wasn't disappointed with the service but probably wouldn't do again.

I left there and while walking past the Panama a gentleman told me to go in. I don't usually but a very cute girl was standing in the door. Most (all) of the women were bigger than I prefer but the one at the door was very cute. About 140, 5'6", 8 in looks. We bs for a while and agree to go next door. 350mx, 50mx for condom. Service was a bit mechanical 7, body was curvy, not fat 7.5.

Left there and it was past dark. This was my first time in Juarez and wasn't sure how safe it was. I don't mind the main streets but the side streets that I was on made me a little apprehensive. As I was heading towards the border a gentleman named Johnny gave me a card for the Pink Lady. That is where I originally wanted to go. He offered to take me there which meant let's walk about a kilometer. Nice guy bought him a few beers. My spanish is limited and I negotiated through him. There was a cute little spinner that I was interested in. Ended up costing 600 pesos to take her next door. face was an 8 body was a true 9.5. She was about 5'2" 100 pounds, no marks and firm all over. Attitude was pretty good. Not a true GFE but gave a decent cbj, then several positions. Very accomodating regarding what I wanted. Would definetly do again.

Again, thanks for the info. I spent more money than I usually do when in Mexico but saving money is directly correlated to the amount of time you have.

Billy Monger
06-18-07, 05:44
Anyone want to speculate as to why Mexican girls find oral sex to be so much more intimate than vaginal sex. Intercourse is considered o.k. but a blowjob is something that requires additional payment in the sex trade. Does this attitude have religious or cultural underpinnings?

Clydesdale
06-19-07, 00:53
Anyone want to speculate as to why Mexican girls find oral sex to be so much more intimate than vaginal sex. Intercourse is considered o.k. but a blowjob is something that requires additional payment in the sex trade. Does this attitude have religious or cultural underpinnings?
Maybe it comes down to laziness - they can just lay there or actually have to work on you. They probably assume you want pussy, so the bj becomes the upsell. Maybe they just hate the taste of condoms. What flips me out is these girls who will f*ck like a wild woman, give a nasty bbbj, but think it's a sin to touch your dick.

Cienega32
06-19-07, 01:11
Anyone want to speculate as to why Mexican girls find oral sex to be so much more intimate than vaginal sex. Intercourse is considered o.k. but a blowjob is something that requires additional payment in the sex trade. Does this attitude have religious or cultural underpinnings?
My New York Jewish ex-wife had the same attitude after we married...


{ba-da-boom!}

Bbond
06-19-07, 08:18
Anyone want to speculate as to why Mexican girls find oral sex to be so much more intimate than vaginal sex. Intercourse is considered o.k. but a blowjob is something that requires additional payment in the sex trade. Does this attitude have religious or cultural underpinnings?

Try getting BBBJ with CIM, can be done, but it is not common, and some girls won't do it for any price.
I think that after many years of Juarez trips, I have gotten BBBJ maybe 5 girls, CIM 3. And one of those 3 was a girl that, upfront, said she did not do BJ, period, and I got a BBBJCIM from her.

Coyote79
06-19-07, 17:26
Try getting BBBJ with CIM, can be done, but it is not common, and some girls won't do it for any price.
I think that after many years of Juarez trips, I have gotten BBBJ maybe 5 girls, CIM 3. And one of those 3 was a girl that, upfront, said she did not do BJ, period, and I got a BBBJCIM from her.

I think they don't want to do that because they can get an STD that way. . .

IMHO providers charge extra for oral because it's assumed the fee we pay for upfront is for basic sex--i.e. vaginal intercourse. . .

Bbond
06-19-07, 20:18
El Club “Panamá”, el salón de baile “Mi Cabaña” y el centro nocturno “Bacchus”, fueron clausurados por no mostrar la licencia municipal o el permiso de Gobernación para la venta de bebidas alcohólicas.

Says Club Panama was closed due to no license to sell booze, anyone confirm?

Doubt98
06-21-07, 01:40
El Club “Panamá”, el salón de baile “Mi Cabaña” y el centro nocturno “Bacchus”, fueron clausurados por no mostrar la licencia municipal o el permiso de Gobernación para la venta de bebidas alcohólicas.

Says Club Panama was closed due to no license to sell booze, anyone confirm?


It was open 10 days ago and had booze.

Coyote79
06-22-07, 03:46
About 1 PM

Venus charges $40 for 45 minutes.
BJs are an extra $20 charge.

About four ladies working, between 6 and 9.
Chose Daniela.
25 yo (looks younger), 5’9”, “C” cup, athletic body, braces. . .very cute. . .

Negatives. . .
No kiss. Not even for a $25 tip :-)
Complains a little. . .
I’m usually not into tall girls like Daniela, but she was hot in other ways. . .

Positives. . .
No rush. . .passionate. . .cute girl. . .nice body & rack. . .

Yeah I know what you’re thinking—“passionate but no kiss?”
It happens. . .

Overall I had a great time. . .gave her a nice tip. . .

Justsomeim
06-23-07, 00:59
Venus charges $40 for 45 minutes. BJs are an extra $20 charge.

About four ladies working, between 6 and 9.

Chose Daniela.

25 yo (looks younger), 5’9", "see" cup, athletic body, braces. Very cute. .

Negatives. .

No kiss. Not even for a $25 tip:.)

Complains a little. .

I’m usually not into tall girls like Daniela, but she was hot in other ways. .

Positives. .

No rush. Passionate. Cute girl. Nice body & rack. .

Yeah I know what you’re thinking—"passionate but no kiss? "

It happens. .

Overall I had a great time. Gave her a nice tip. Been with Daniela, I thought she was a great girl as well, didn't get a kiss either, but fun and passionate.

I like Venus, I know the upsell, but it seems that all the ladies are really sweet girls and I don't believe I've ever had a bad experience there or heard of anyone who has. Plus, the girls are typically the best looking.

Cienega32
06-23-07, 04:17
Chose Daniela.
25 yo (looks younger), 5’9”, “C” cup, athletic body, braces. . .very cute. . .

Negatives. . .
No kiss. Not even for a $25 tip :-)

Maybe it's something to do with the braces?

Coyote79
06-23-07, 11:56
Maybe it's something to do with the braces?
funny I don't mind braces. . .give them a hot young girl look. . .

I get why providers don't want to kiss; I just prefer those that do.

Gallo Ingles
06-23-07, 12:54
Yesterday I spent some time checking out a few MPs before making a decision. I was struck by the fact that prices seem to vary considerably from place to place these days.

Michel, Genesis, Mercedes = $300 pesos
Venus, Sirenas = $400pesos
Luxxor = $500pesos

That's right. Luxxor has increased their base rate to $500. Will the others follow suit?

The problem is that the hottest lookers seem to be at the most expensive places (it figures), but I hope that the market will keep the prices lower if fellow mongers will adjust their behavior accordingly. We need to spend more time at the lower cost establishments.

Mugroso
06-23-07, 18:46
That's right. Luxxor has increased their base rate to $500. Will the others follow suit?

Smart move on their part. They know the girls are upselling and that guys are willing to pay an extra 20-30 USD.

The Filthy (I thought I had another 10 bucks) One

Treewalker
06-24-07, 16:09
Maybe it comes down to laziness - they can just lay there or actually have to work on you. They probably assume you want pussy, so the bj becomes the upsell. Maybe they just hate the taste of condoms. What flips me out is these girls who will f*ck like a wild woman, give a nasty bbbj, but think it's a sin to touch your dick.


Yea....... grab the damn thing! I'ts not a delicate flower! :D

No what gets me is girls who f*** or s*** C**** all day yet think kissing is somehow TOO intimate? :rolleyes:

Billy Monger
06-25-07, 03:43
Well boys, I worked third shift Saturday night and started stirring around three o’clock Sunday afternoon. Guillermo was as hard as Chinese math. Got to J-town around four-fifty. Walking is the best option on Sunday because the traffic coming back to the U.S. is really getting congested due to the construction on the Paso del Norte (Santa Fe) Bridge.

At Cleopatra’s (they close at six on Sunday) hooked up with Yvette late of Paraiso. 25-year-old short, a little chunky but not too much so for my taste, some baby damage on the belly but hey, that’s why they put the red light in the room. Sum total, best CBJ in the 21 months that I have been in ELP/CJS. This girl could suck a golf ball through ten feet of garden hose. Either she likes the taste of latex or she really knows how to get a tip. Sex was good too (used the floor instead of the surfboard table) with mish to start out then cowgirl up. While trying to move to another position the condom slipped off inside of her and she finished me off with a hand job that was nice and easy unlike some that pull on you as if you were a strap on the A-Train to Harlem, all for 350 pesos plus a nice tip. No rush, no muss, no fuss.

I know some of your like the fancier places with the prettier, trimmer girls but for my money you can’t beat Cleo’s.

Espina Heart
06-25-07, 16:04
That's right. Luxxor has increased their base rate to $500. Will the others follow suit?

I've been hankering for another Luxxor trip for awhile now, cuz' Scott's a great guy and the girls are usually pretty hot. Fitty dollars? Thank you, no. Thanks for the heads up.

I did enjoy Yvette (now at Cleo's) while at Paraiso. She was pretty good but no substitute for Fernanda. Any F-sightings, guys? That chick, I think, does this dissapearance act just to drive me, personally, crazy.

To add to the $300 peso list: Marilyn and Loryed. Marilyn has been bone dry :-) for quite some time, and while Loryed is not way up there on the sanitization list, I've had some very fun times there with some VERY NASTY girls in the not too distant past.

I have to agree with Gallo. At least try to support your lower priced mp's, if there's anything doable.

spine

Coyote79
06-25-07, 20:17
she's shy :-)

Coyote79
06-25-07, 20:25
I've been hankering for another Luxxor trip for awhile now, cuz' Scott's a great guy and the girls are usually pretty hot. Fitty dollars? Thank you, no. Thanks for the heads up.
spine

Is Soriya still working there?
She's a co-owner, isn't she?

Justsomeim
06-25-07, 23:21
Hey fellas,

I wanted to know if you guys knew if there was any places off of the Fabens Bridge, I'm wondering because of the long lines at the downtown bridge. I looked at the map and saw nothing around but was hoping one of my fellow mongers knew of anything down there. When I looked at the bridge times today, the fabens bridge had 1 lane open with no delays so this could be a great alternative.

Coyote79
06-26-07, 02:22
It was really too fucking hot to be walking around Juarez today. . .but little head needed action.

Was suppose to meet Mayra of Venus MP (see June 10 post) at Villa Manport for a $300, three hour sex-o-rama. . .but she didn't show. . .didn't show up for our last date either. . .

A provider who flakes? The hell you say?

Headed across the street to Sirenas. Two gorditas working plus Elle. Left.

Headed over to Venus. Only Michelle was working. (see June 16 post).
Didn't recognize her at first, otherwise I wouldn't of chose her.

Service was about the same as last time.
If you want a smoking hot girl who'll make you feel like shit, I highly recommend Michelle. . .God what a b*i*t*c*h. . .

Coyote79
06-26-07, 02:31
Michel, Genesis, Mercedes = $300 pesos
Venus, Sirenas = $400pesos
Luxxor = $500pesos


I've been paying. . .
$30 dolllars, $40 dollars, $50 dollars. . .
Venus & sirenas will take 400 pesos?
I can save a few bucks, huh?
Where do you recommend doing the money exchange?

Gallo Ingles
06-26-07, 12:29
I've been paying. . .
$30 dolllars, $40 dollars, $50 dollars. . .
Venus & sirenas will take 400 pesos?
I can save a few bucks, huh?
Where do you recommend doing the money exchange?

Money can be easily exchanged at any casa de cambio. They are all over town.

I usually pay in pesos for that very reason, the few dollar savings. Depending on the current exchange rate the difference can be as much as ten percent.

Espina Heart
06-26-07, 15:54
I can save a few bucks, huh?
Where do you recommend doing the money exchange?
Dude, I've prolly saved over a hundred clams by always paying in pesos by now. One of the best places (closest to both downtown bridges) is a window on the corner of Fco. Villa and the Malecon. The mps always work under the $10 dollars = $100 pesos, no matter the rate. Make your first stop the money exchange!


Is Soriya still working there?
She's a co-owner, isn't she?

That's what I've heard (about Soriya and Luxxor). Not sure about Stuart's relation with her or anything, but I will pass along something he told me about her once. I guess I'm alot less loyal now that they want $fitty. There was a dude with an eye patch named Alex, who used to be the bridge driver. He gave me his card once but I passed and walked for free. According to Stuart, Alex was Soriya's boyfriend until in an argument, she plucked out his last good eye. So I guess you have more than enuff reason to label her a b*i*t*c*h!

spine

Palamides
06-27-07, 01:25
Yes, Last time I was at Sirenas May 24 I happened to have some pesos and Arleth had no qualms at accepting 400 pesos for the 1hr mesaje session. And yes the 100 peso tip (wow you guys were so right about her! ) would have figured to have been between $8 and $ 9 dollars. When you cross the paso del norte bridge you begin to see the casa de cambios primarily on the right side (approximately west) of the steet all the way down Juarez Ave. If you notice every block you walk the exchange rate for dollars increases in your favor by 10-20 centavos with practically each step. Funny.

Cienega32
06-27-07, 05:11
Resurrecting a past, helpful to me link regarding money exchanges:



http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=170551&postcount=71

Coyote79
06-27-07, 15:08
Dude, I've prolly saved over a hundred clams by always paying in pesos by now. One of the best places (closest to both downtown bridges) is a window on the corner of Fco. Villa and the Malecon.
thanks dude I'll check it out. . .u guys ever use that one next to the Mexican immigration office on the free bridge? Thumbs up or down?



That's what I've heard (about Soriya and Luxxor). Not sure about Stuart's relation with her or anything, but I will pass along something he told me about her once. I guess I'm alot less loyal now that they want $fitty. There was a dude with an eye patch named Alex, who used to be the bridge driver. He gave me his card once but I passed and walked for free. According to Stuart, Alex was Soriya's boyfriend until in an argument, she plucked out his last good eye. So I guess you have more than enuff reason to label her a b*i*t*c*h!

spine
Jesus Christ!
Dam I guess Soriya been promoted from catty b*itch to psycho b*itch!!
(I like anyone who can tell me shit about Soriya)