Monterrey

[MonterreyDude]

Let me put the address names in a way the local say it:

"Calle San Jeronimo antes de Gonzalitos"




I believe that it is on Calz. San Jeronimo close to Dr. Jose Gonzalez. My ticket actually reads Alegre Sports book but the entrance to the place says Royale Sports Book and Casino.

Mayorga got on his hands and knees and prayed after the weigh-in. That is not something a boxer does if he is simply showing up for a paycheck.

If Mayorga has anything left to give to the sport(Trinidad possibly ruined him.) and performs at 100 percent while an unmotivated and distant Mosely only gives 80 percent...Mosely will lose.

[Victor Lazlo]

I tried to find it today. It seemed from Amigomio’s map like an easy half-mile walk from the Sheraton Ambassador. But after a couple of tries, I’m still not sure if I found the right place.

Is Allende the street between Matamoros and Juan Ignacio Ramon that has NO street sign?

Is Marcella in a narrow white building with the large red numbers 220 on the front wall? There was no name or anything to indicate that it might be an MP. I did notice that at the back of the large open entryway was a small neon sign that said “Abierto”.

[MonterreyDude]

Victor... I declare myself guilty.

I don't do MPs above reasearching them, but yes, that should be Marcella.
It is the address, it is the street and it is the street number... so it must be Marcella.
And the neon sign is tell-tale of an MP.

Check their website for the location.


http://www.pompis.com.mx/4717.html

Maybe it was good... on a Sunday... I don't think you would have found anything good.




I tried to find it today. It seemed from Amigomio’s map like an easy half-mile walk from the Sheraton Ambassador. But after a couple of tries, I’m still not sure if I found the right place.

Is Allende the street between Matamoros and Juan Ignacio Ramon that has NO street sign?

Is Marcella in a narrow white building with the large red numbers 220 on the front wall? There was no name or anything to indicate that it might be an MP. I did notice that at the back of the large open entryway was a small neon sign that said “Abierto”.

[Precocious One]

I tried to find it today. It seemed from Amigomio’s map like an easy half-mile walk from the Sheraton Ambassador. But after a couple of tries, I’m still not sure if I found the right place.

Is Allende the street between Matamoros and Juan Ignacio Ramon that has NO street sign?

Is Marcella in a narrow white building with the large red numbers 220 on the front wall? There was no name or anything to indicate that it might be an MP. I did notice that at the back of the large open entryway was a small neon sign that said “Abierto”.


That is Marcella. If you are still here next Sunday, a girl named Abril works there only on the weekends that was recommended to me by one of my favoritas. I have been meaning to try her out but have not had the time. Commonglass recently sessioned with her and gave his approval.

Like many MP's here in Monterrey, there won't be a sign or even an "abierto" placecard on the door. Come to think of it, many of the places just have a doorbell(timbre) near the door.

I am more than likely heading to Romano's today. Like I have previously mentioned in past reports, I strongly recommend this place. It is also close to many other MP's if you do not find what you like there.

By the way, Motley Crue is playing at the Monterrey Arena on Tuesday, October 7, 2008. Ticket prices are $30-150.

[Fuddzie]

I real about cost in Monterrey and wonder if it includes the privado? I gather that for $80 I can get high quality chicas. What does this price include. On the average. Also are most of the club grouped together and if so, where abouts in the city?

[MonterreyDude]

Precocious... sir, you were so right with Dr. Coss 713 norte.

I don't do MPs, but that place has incredible looking girls.
(I went and checked to update my map).

A star for you sir.





That is Marcella. If you are still here next Sunday, a girl named Abril works there only on the weekends that was recommended to me by one of my favoritas. I have been meaning to try her out but have not had the time. Commonglass recently sessioned with her and gave his approval.

Like many MP's here in Monterrey, there won't be a sign or even an "abierto" placecard on the door. Come to think of it, many of the places just have a doorbell(timbre) near the door.

I am more than likely heading to Romano's today. Like I have previously mentioned in past reports, I strongly recommend this place. It is also close to many other MP's if you do not find what you like there.

By the way, Motley Crue is playing at the Monterrey Arena on Tuesday, October 7, 2008. Ticket prices are $30-150.

[MonterreyDude]

Fuddzie

Please check the "Links to Reports of Distinction" section.

Take a look at post #7 there.
There is a direct link to my SuperGoogle Map of Monterrey.

Just as an advance, it includes hotels, malls, MPs, SCs, and lots more.

It will help you grasp that everything is spread all over Monterrey.
The city is big, no Zonas.
I gather this is your first trip to Monterrey.
You'll be surprised by the size of it.

Check it out and ask your questions.
That is why we are here for.




I real about cost in Monterrey and wonder if it includes the privado? I gather that for $80 I can get high quality chicas. What does this price include. On the average. Also are most of the club grouped together and if so, where abouts in the city?

[Precocious One]

Precocious... sir, you were so right with Dr. Coss 713 norte.

I don't do MPs, but that place has incredible looking girls.
(I went and checked to update my map).

A star for you sir.You might have met Azul. If so, she can definately pass as a CDV girl hanging out drinking coffee on Calle Mississippi. Super cute. And why not MP girls? Some of them offer(rare occasions) the GFE. I lost one of my MP GFE's yesterday(quit the business) to her suspecting B/F. Fu_king sucks. If I could find a S/C girl that offered the GFE, I would most definately partake. GFE is GFE and where it originates from is irrelevant.

And I actually might just start investing in the S/C scene. Two girls have recently offered their services at $60/2 hours at one of the local S/C's. The only thing that I don't like about the S/C's is the drinking, smoking and possible prevalence of drugs.

Again, I have nothing against the S/C girls. I am just looking for great sex at a good value. The only girls I will not do are the dance club girls as they are not tested.

[MonterreyDude]

Azul as a CDV girl?

Nope. I don't think so.

You still don't have the eye to distinguish differences between upper class girls and club girls.


You might have met Azul. If so, she can definately pass as a CDV girl hanging out drinking coffee on Calle Mississippi. Super cute. And why not MP girls? Some of them offer(rare occasions) the GFE. I lost one of my MP GFE's yesterday(quit the business) to her suspecting B/F. Fu_king sucks. If I could find a S/C girl that offered the GFE, I would most definately partake. GFE is GFE and where it originates from is irrelevant.

And I actually might just start investing in the S/C scene. Two girls have recently offered their services at $60/2 hours at one of the local S/C's. The only thing that I don't like about the S/C's is the drinking, smoking and possible prevalence of drugs.

Again, I have nothing against the S/C girls. I am just looking for great sex at a good value. The only girls I will not do are the dance club girls as they are not tested.

[Fuddzie]

Amigomio,

Thanks for the detailed map and list of sites.

Could you provide an answer to my questions about average costs and privados?

[Precocious One]

Azul as a CDV girl?

Nope. I don't think so.

You still don't have the eye to distinguish differences between upper class girls and club girls.

Let me guess. It's the platform shoes, right?

By the way, for those of you that do not know what CDV means it is an acronym in reference to the Colonial Del Valle sector, one of the most exclusive areas in all of Mexico. Individuals with net worths similar to that of Hermosa Beach, CA. In fact, they just opened a Ferrari/Maserati dealership here. Old, family money often with European descent. Nice homes(2500-4000 sq.foot) here go for 500k-1MM+. More in the Montana sector.

And this is with cheap concrete, cinder block construction. It would be almost triple the cost to build in the U.S with a conventional stick-built/poured concrete home.

[MonterreyDude]

It ain't the shoes.

It's shows all over the board: skin tone, body language, way they speak, way they dress.

I've seen them at Plaza Fiesta San Agustin and Valle Oriente malls.
They stick out like a sore thumb.




Let me guess. It's the platform shoes, right?

By the way, for those of you that do not know what CDV means it is an acronym in reference to the Colonial Del Valle sector, one of the most exclusive areas in all of Mexico. Individuals with net worths similar to that of Hermosa Beach, CA. In fact, they just opened a Ferrari/Maserati dealership here. Old, family money often with European descent. Nice homes(2500-4000 sq.foot) here go for 500k-1MM+. More in the Montana sector.

And this is with cheap concrete, cinder block construction. It would be almost triple the cost to build in the U.S with a conventional stick-built/poured concrete home.

[Victor Lazlo]

Maybe it was good... on a Sunday... I don't think you would have found anything good.Thanks for the confirmation. Unfortunately, my work schedule pretty much leaves only the weekends for sightseeing. Are Saturdays better? I never had a problem with Saturday afternoons in Ciudad Juarez.

On another note, there are two strip clubs just down the street from the Sheraton, Maxim and Reno. Any opinion on either or both?



That is Marcella. If you are still here next Sunday, a girl named Abril works there only on the weekends that was recommended to me by one of my favoritas. I have been meaning to try her out but have not had the time. Commonglass recently sessioned with her and gave his approval.I'll be sure to check her out if I have the chance. Thanks for the tip.

[MonterreyDude]

Reno is part of the Amnesia-Premiere family.
I think it's the only club that allows take out.. but EXPENSIVE takeout.
Did I say "expensive"?
As expensive and maybe some as a US strip club.

THis is their webpage:

http://www.renomonterrey.com/

Maxim is not a SC, it´s a bar girl club.
You go in, pick up a girl and take her to a hotel.
But mostly the manifest is composed of veterans that can't find jobs at SCs

Beware of the Spugna MC at a couple of blocks away from the Sheraton.
It is almost a tourist trap.
No good that club.
Poisson, the flagship of that family is much better.

And Saturdays... well, more or less.
Am a SC man myself, and the afternoon shift at Infinito is more or less acceptable, so, yes... let's say that Saturday's are much better than a Sunday.





Thanks for the confirmation. Unfortunately, my work schedule pretty much leaves only the weekends for sightseeing. Are Saturdays better? I never had a problem with Saturday afternoons in Ciudad Juarez.

On another note, there are two strip clubs just down the street from the Sheraton, Maxim and Reno. Any opinion on either or both?


I'll be sure to check her out if I have the chance. Thanks for the tip.

[MonterreyDude]

Fuddzie.

Price range goes from 200 pesos at Amnesia to as low as 50 pesos at the Madero and Villagran st clubs.

Costs for full service also are wide depending on the club.
Prices might start at 1300 pesos at Casino, Pasarelas, Harem, going down to 450-300 at Tangalay and Infinito respectively.

Fuddzie, too many clubs to set a range.
Every each club has it's own set price but more or less the number is 50 pesos.





Amigomio,

Thanks for the detailed map and list of sites.

Could you provide an answer to my questions about average costs and privados?

[Precocious One]

It ain't the shoes.

It's shows all over the board: skin tone, body language, way they speak, way they dress.

I've seen them at Plaza Fiesta San Agustin and Valle Oriente malls.
They stick out like a sore thumb.


I was joking about the shoes.

I hang out at the Valle Oriente Mall every week as they have a great MM movie theatre there that charges only $8.00 for a first-rate theatre by U.S. standards.

As for the distinction, the lighter-tone skin color is the dead giveaway. Also, as is the case for most of the wealthy class in all cultures, they tend to be taller than their proletariat counterparts.

[MonterreyDude]

I don't want to contradict my good friend USB, but the matter of fact is that Spugna beign part of the Poisson group is as expensive as hell.

Barfines, if they have them, should be as high as 1000 pesos if not 1500.

Total fee should have come out to 300 dlls minimum.

One question: are you sure you went to Spugna?
Let me tell you that not even me would walk those 3 blocks from the Sheraton to Spugna alone at night.









Actually....Believe it or not, one night when I stayed at the Sheraton, and in my efforts over the last several months to canvas the city for Cindy #1, I visited Spugna. I went there one night when I was feeling tired, not really wanting to look for a taxi, fight the traffic, walk too far, etc...So, I just walked down there from the Sheraton. I had relatively conservative expectations because I had always heard the same kinds of reports about Spugna.

I was surprised to find a perfectly charming young girl there that was not at all predatorial. I carried on a very nice conversation with her, only bought her one drink, and ventured back to the hotel with her only after about forty five minutes. She agreed to go for 1000 pesos, and I don't recall paying a bar fine. She was an absolutely outstanding GFE, no up-selling, nothing but the real thing in every respect.

So, while typically Spunga may be predatorial, I found it to be relatively convenient to the hotel, and appropriate to my mongering style. Probably just a fluke...

[Member #3453]

Sure, it WAS Spugna...I mean, it is sooooo close I could crawl there from the Sheraton.

And, it may be part of the Poisson group, but one would never know it by the quality of the girls inside the place. I classify it similar to a place like Azul Tequila, mediocre quality of girls with an occasional hottie, high prices, same brand of unscrupulous waiters, etc...except for the girl I found...undoubtedly a fluke. That's why I was so shocked...

As for the dangers of walking there, the criminal element is mobile...showing up just as easily in CDV. In fact, much better hunting grounds for the criminales in CDV than outside of Spugna, verdad? I felt safer there than walking around Villa Gran.

But, no argument here...I agree that the occasional or newbie visitor will likely be fleeced at Spugna.




I don't want to contradict my good friend USB, but the matter of fact is that Spugna beign part of the Poisson group is as expensive as hell.

Barfines, if they have them, should be as high as 1000 pesos if not 1500.

Total fee should have come out to 300 dlls minimum.

One question: are you sure you went to Spugna?
Let me tell you that not even me would walk those 3 blocks from the Sheraton to Spugna alone at night.

[MonterreyDude]

Similar to Azul Tequila?

What a coincidence: Poisson, Spugna, Pasarelas and Azul Tequila and I think even Womans, fly under the same flag.

That is the reason why Spugna "feels" like Azul Tequila.




Sure, it WAS Spugna...I mean, it is sooooo close I could crawl there from the Sheraton.

And, it may be part of the Poisson group, but one would never know it by the quality of the girls inside the place. I classify it similar to a place like Azul Tequila, mediocre quality of girls with an occasional hottie, high prices, same brand of unscrupulous waiters, etc...except for the girl I found...undoubtedly a fluke. That's why I was so shocked...

As for the dangers of walking there, the criminal element is mobile...showing up just as easily in CDV. In fact, much better hunting grounds for the criminales in CDV than outside of Spugna, verdad? I felt safer there than walking around Villa Gran.

But, no argument here...I agree that the occasional or newbie visitor will likely be fleeced at Spugna.

[Member #3453]

Poisson does have quality girls, expensive, but at least you will leave with a smile on your face, all be it significantly poorer for having gone there.

Pasarelas is the best of all four because they offer a generally consistent quality of selection, and the cost is just moderately higher than the lower end bars, maybe about 40% more for the cost of a salida. Actually, it varies depending on your ability to negotiate, what day of the week it is, how busy they are, etc...Generally, I am quoted 850 pesos for the salida, and the girls range between costing 1000 and 1500 pesos. But, I have been able to get girls out of there for as little as 650 pesos, 750 pesos, and 800 pesos, with an occasional range of girlfriend(s) that I have known for a while, offering it for as little as 800 pesos, sometimes 4-6 hours, and even, sometimes, for free. But, of course, we all recognize the underlying entrapment associated with the freebie, so I always pay, ALWAYS. The Freebie comes, I'm sure, with their anticipation that they are always going to be paid. They know me well, and know that I would not take advantage of them that way.

Getting "service" at a reduced rate, and for extended times, is possible, very possible, and at no additional cost. But, it requires you to "know" the girls, and to get into their heads, and to charm them beyond the conventional "business" arrangement, a sometimes relatively expensive endeavor over time with respect to drinks, and certainly not always a sure thing that the business will transcend into something more personal. Transcending the business relationship, depending on the girl, is almost always my goal. It is probably successful less than 20% of the time, but it does happen, and more often than one might suspect is possible. The truth is, playing them all can actually become relatively complicated and stressful. So, to have a 20% success rate is certainly more than one should even ask for. Considering the numbers of girls one has to juggle, it is certainly more than enough to rub one raw.

I take issue with this notion that they are "Always" there for the money because I have proven the opposite to myself so many times that it's not even a supportable argument with me. They are certainly there for the money, but they are not always there solely for the money. I believe that of the ones that are unique in this way, they are there for fun and money...and who knows what lurks in the twisted minds of these girls. As Amigomio often says, many of them are crazy...I don't care why (crazy) they are there, just that they are. Thank God they are crazy.

One can only conclude that if you do the work, and there are girls that are willing to stay with you for extended periods, on the expectation that you will pay them, or not, or if they agree to cheap rates, 4, 6, 8, 12 hours, sometimes spending todo la noche, all for 500-1000 pesos, and they do so over successive periods of time, month after month, year after year, consistently being there...one can only conclude one thing...They wanna be there, money not withstanding. In my book, the barometer is always "time versus cost." That is the benchmark in determining their motivation. Behavior is the true barometer, and I have tested many of them so many times.

Getting back to the comparison of the four bars...

What I notice with respect to there being a similarity between Azul and Pasarelas is that waiters fleece their patrons more openly than in some other bars we regularly visit. But, that having been said, Pasarelas is still one of my favorites places, and Azul is not even on my radar. Pasarelas is sometimes a little inconsistent with respect to selection, but generally, at least lately, they are relatively consistent and there are a lot of girls.

I would have definitely rated Pasarelas above the quality of selection at Casino in the past, and probably rated Casino under the quality of selection available at Harem, except that I prefer the environment at Pasarelas to Harem. But now, Both Casino and Harem have become so much more than they used to be, that I would rate Casino and Harem above Pasarelas. Costs are almost identical between the three.

Spugna is not nearly the quality of selection of either Poisson or Pasarelas, and were I not to have had such a great experience there, I would not have even considered returning. I did NOT notice the open dishonesty of the waiters in Spugna and that I routinely experience in Pasarelas, and even to a greater extent in Azul.

With respect to Azul Tequila, I have learned my lesson there. It is about the same quality of selection as Spugna, and the larceny in that place is so prevalent that I would never recommend anyone to go there.




Similar to Azul Tequila?

What a coincidence: Poisson, Spugna, Pasarelas and Azul Tequila and I think even Womans, fly under the same flag.

That is the reason why Spugna "feels" like Azul Tequila.

[MonterreyDude]

You are not going to like Harem anymore.

Remember we keep talking about the younger clientel?
Well it's being focused on that brand of customers.

Now that Harem has expanded, they have added a new sound system, one that has the music SO LOUD, that it's unbearable to sit for more than 5 minutes.

And that´s what the young want: loud

I just don't go there anymore after Harem being my favorite watering hole for so many years.




Poisson does have quality girls, expensive, but at least you will leave with a smile on your face, all be it significantly poorer for having gone there.

Pasarelas is the best of all four because they offer a generally consistent quality of selection, and the cost is just moderately higher than the lower end bars, maybe about 40% more for the cost of a salida. Actually, it varies depending on your ability to negotiate, what day of the week it is, how busy they are, etc...Generally, I am quoted 850 pesos for the salida, and the girls range between costing 1000 and 1500 pesos. But, I have been able to get girls out of there for as little as 650 pesos, 750 pesos, and 800 pesos, with an occasional range of girlfriend(s) that I have known for a while, offering it for as little as 800 pesos, sometimes 4-6 hours, and even, sometimes, for free. But, of course, we all recognize the underlying entrapment associated with the freebie, so I always pay, ALWAYS. The Freebie comes, I'm sure, with their anticipation that they are always going to be paid. They know me well, and know that I would not take advantage of them that way.

Getting "service" at a reduced rate, and for extended times, is possible, very possible, and at no additional cost. But, it requires you to "know" the girls, and to get into their heads, and to charm them beyond the conventional "business" arrangement, a sometimes relatively expensive endeavor over time with respect to drinks, and certainly not always a sure thing that the business will transcend into something more personal. Transcending the business relationship, depending on the girl, is almost always my goal. It is probably successful less than 20% of the time, but it does happen, and more often than one might suspect is possible. The truth is, playing them all can actually become relatively complicated and stressful. So, to have a 20% success rate is certainly more than one should even ask for. Considering the numbers of girls one has to juggle, it is certainly more than enough to rub one raw.

I take issue with this notion that they are "Always" there for the money because I have proven the opposite to myself so many times that it's not even a supportable argument with me. They are certainly there for the money, but they are not always there solely for the money. I believe that of the ones that are unique in this way, they are there for fun and money...and who knows what lurks in the twisted minds of these girls. As Amigomio often says, many of them are crazy...I don't care why (crazy) they are there, just that they are. Thank God they are crazy.

One can only conclude that if you do the work, and there are girls that are willing to stay with you for extended periods, on the expectation that you will pay them, or not, or if they agree to cheap rates, 4, 6, 8, 12 hours, sometimes spending todo la noche, all for 500-1000 pesos, and they do so over successive periods of time, month after month, year after year, consistently being there...one can only conclude one thing...They wanna be there, money not withstanding. In my book, the barometer is always "time versus cost." That is the benchmark in determining their motivation. Behavior is the true barometer, and I have tested many of them so many times.

Getting back to the comparison of the four bars...

What I notice with respect to there being a similarity between Azul and Pasarelas is that waiters fleece their patrons more openly than in some other bars we regularly visit. But, that having been said, Pasarelas is still one of my favorites places, and Azul is not even on my radar. Pasarelas is sometimes a little inconsistent with respect to selection, but generally, at least lately, they are relatively consistent and there are a lot of girls.

I would have definitely rated Pasarelas above the quality of selection at Casino in the past, and probably rated Casino under the quality of selection available at Harem, except that I prefer the environment at Pasarelas to Harem. But now, Both Casino and Harem have become so much more than they used to be, that I would rate Casino and Harem above Pasarelas. Costs are almost identical between the three.

Spugna is not nearly the quality of selection of either Poisson or Pasarelas, and were I not to have had such a great experience there, I would not have even considered returning. I did NOT notice the open dishonesty of the waiters in Spugna and that I routinely experience in Pasarelas, and even to a greater extent in Azul.

With respect to Azul Tequila, I have learned my lesson there. It is about the same quality of selection as Spugna, and the larceny in that place is so prevalent that I would never recommend anyone to go there.

[Member #3453]

It was terribly loud before...maybe the loudest in all of Monterrey. I had hoped the expansion would absorb the shock waves. Apparently, the management permits the DJs to crank it up now even more.

I hate loud sound systems, mostly because it really inhibits my ability to talk to the girls, a key element of my overall schtick. I also absolutely deplore the loud and constantly irritating DJs.

Actually, Pasarelas has always been quite acceptable with respect to the noise level, and so is Casino these days. Spugna was also acceptable.

And, this one issue illustrates what separates me, and presumably all of us that are "mature" in our perspectives concerning tactics, from the "young," who have none, and admitedly, may not always need them. We operate on a different level than the young...but, make no mistake, we are all still "operators" just the same, making things come together to our own enrichment, and in our own unique way. Thus, talking to the girls is paramount to our success.

We are always looking at tactical approaches that enhance our experiences, realizing that a loud sound system is strictly a detriment. Truth be known, the girls hate those loud sound systems as much as we do. Can you imagine enduring that crap night, after night, after night? It must be hell on earth, and is according to almost every girl I have known over the years.

You know me well. That issue is a huge part of my overall evaluation process of the clubs, along with the obvious quality of selection and relative cost considerations.


You are not going to like Harem anymore.

Remember we keep talking about the younger clientel?
Well it's being focused on that brand of customers.

Now that Harem has expanded, they have added a new sound system, one that has the music SO LOUD, that it's unbearable to sit for more than 5 minutes.

And that´s what the young want: loud

I just don't go there anymore after Harem being my favorite watering hole for so many years.

[MonterreyDude]

Now am really contradicting you.

Seems you don't know how the new generations work.

The use of loud noise is precisely to get rid of old geezers.
And that is not exclusive of SCs.

It's inclusive of all joints up and down legal and irregular businesses.
They use loud music to scare the old folk away and it works.

Hell, my wife stopped going to a beauty parlor cause they play music loud.
The barber shop where I take my son plays loud music. I have to take him cause my wife hates it.

I went to a parents school night to celebrate a young single mom's birthday.
Guess what, all of the present ones were 30somethings and they got kareoke for fun playing music so loud you couldn't talk to the guy to your side.

So stop saying that it's a detriment when it's an asset for them.

If it filters the old and play loud to ring in young customers AND it works, they are going to use it.

Let me tell you that I spoke to the manager that now oversees the Harem, Casino and Bahamas... sorry to tell you but they are going to do the same thing to Casino.
I told him the music was too loud at Harem... he just stared at me and said "no it ain't"






It was terribly loud before...maybe the loudest in all of Monterrey. I had hoped the expansion would absorb the shock waves. Apparently, the management permits the DJs to crank it up now even more.

I hate loud sound systems, mostly because it really inhibits my ability to talk to the girls, a key element of my overall schtick. I also absolutely deplore the loud and constantly irritating DJs.

Actually, Pasarelas has always been quite acceptable with respect to the noise level, and so is Casino these days. Spugna was also acceptable.

And, this one issue illustrates what separates me, and presumably all of us that are "mature" in our perspectives concerning tactics, from the "young," who have none, and admitedly, may not always need them. We operate on a different level than the young...but, make no mistake, we are all still "operators" just the same, making things come together to our own enrichment, and in our own unique way. Thus, talking to the girls is paramount to our success.

We are always looking at tactical approaches that enhance our experiences, realizing that a loud sound system is strictly a detriment. Truth be known, the girls hate those loud sound systems as much as we do. Can you imagine enduring that crap night, after night, after night? It must be hell on earth, and is according to almost every girl I have known over the years.

You know me well. That issue is a huge part of my overall evaluation process of the clubs, along with the obvious quality of selection and relative cost considerations.

[Sean Juan]

Good evening gentlemen. It has been awhile since my last post since unfortunately, my travels have not taken me in the direction of Monterrey as of late. But that is about to change (hooray!) as I will be flying in next Sunday. Have some business to attend to during the days but plan on making my rounds once the work day ends. AmigoMio, I will be hitting up Infinitos for sure, so let me know if you want to catch up. I eagerly anticipate my return and look forward to the amazing scene. I've been reading and see some new contributors to the forum and as usual continue to consider this the best information sharing site that I have been a part of. Can't wait to be there.

S

[Member #3453]

Well, I thought we "old geezers" were all washed up, that we were all of little consequence, having no game, no attractiveness left, no ability to charm, no ability to solicit desire from females half our age, etc...Why would they feel we are such a huge threat to them? Why soooooo much jealousy and angst?

If the former be true, what could possibly be worrying the young so much about the old geezers that they would want to eliminate them from the party by insulting their sensibilities, whether it be through music or direct insults.

NOT all the young...but, some must believe the following fantasies about themselves, and it's likely that this is what management is counting on.

They obviously believe the old geezers do not have a chance in hell with the girls, right? So, why get so hot and bothered over whether an old geezer is playing the game right along side them or not?

Could it be.....Ego? Could it be that the old geezers threaten their egos? Who knows...I don't get it.

Could it be that they are admitting, on a subconscious level, as is evidenced by their effort to insult the sensibilities of the old geezers, that the old geezers are most certainly able to obtain, from the very same girls that the younger among them claim would never touch them, a level of debauchery that is almost unsurpassed by the young among them.

The young are sometimes naive, in-experienced, and have a mistaken perception that somehow the old geezers have no chance whatsoever with these girls. It is no wonder they are blind sided by the old geezers. The young can not comprehend how a male twice their age could possibly steal the girls away from them, they with their young, hard asses, with their bulging muscles, flat stomachs, hard bodies, and long haired or wavy hair lines.

God forbid, the old geezers might embarrass the young impetuous fools at their own game. Could it be that the management is praying that the old geezers will not thwart the young fools, and that the young fools will instead stay in the clubs to impetuously throw away money carelessly on the girls as the music blasts away. Because, the old geezers sure ain't gonna' do it.

The reality is, the old geezers are getting the best ass, while also simultaneously hording their pesos, getting everything from their girls that their hearts and loins desire.

Could it be that these young types are blinded by their own self proclaimed prowess, when really they partake in wasted antics, intended to impress the girls, all of which are based on some macho male, ego maniacal, stereotypical understanding of women?

Some young males DO NOT understand women, and the girls see right through them. That's what the management is counting on. So, the young dudes congratulate themselves on their self perceived youthful superiority, believing their youth is the result of their own accomplishment, and refusing to instead acknowledge that their youth is a blessing of time and nature.

They foolishly do not consider the wisdom and experience of age, nor do they totally comprehend what an advantage the old geezers truly have in the long run psychologically and intellectually.

Plus...

Don't they know that all the old geezers have to do is turn down their hearing aids and the music will have NO EFFECT upon them!!! :-))) Come 'On... :-))) They will have to do better than that!





Now am really contradicting you.

Seems you don't know how the new generations work.

The use of loud noise is precisely to get rid of old geezers.
And that is not exclusive of SCs.

It's inclusive of all joints up and down legal and irregular businesses.
They use loud music to scare the old folk away and it works.

Hell, my wife stopped going to a beauty parlor cause they play music loud.
The barber shop where I take my son plays loud music. I have to take him cause my wife hates it.

I went to a parents school night to celebrate a young single mom's birthday.
Guess what, all of the present ones were 30somethings and they got kareoke for fun playing music so loud you couldn't talk to the guy to your side.

So stop saying that it's a detriment when it's an asset for them.

If it filters the old and play loud to ring in young customers AND it works, they are going to use it.

Let me tell you that I spoke to the manager that now oversees the Harem, Casino and Bahamas... sorry to tell you but they are going to do the same thing to Casino.
I told him the music was too loud at Harem... he just stared at me and said "no it ain't"

[MonterreyDude]

My friend USB tends to forget that Monterrey as in other big Mexican cities, we tend to have to deal with young customers with money in their pockets and with no qualms to spend 1000, 2000, 3000 pesos on the girls.

This is a new generation of customers I get to see on a weekly, semi daily basis and I have seen them grow in numbers.

It is hard to deal with 2 things in the business:
The notion that the girl has a regular steady boyfriend AND a customer that has tons of money AND is handsom.

It doesn't matter if they don't know how to treat a girl, they still have the money and that's the first thing in the set of rules that the girls have in mind.

I will state as an example what I see at the Obsession MC, where for a period of several months there was an epidemic of pregnancies among the girls.

This due to the fact that some of the girls were "novias" with hunks with money that would take them on trips, would give them fine gifts and spend tons of money on them when visiting them at the clubs.

And I know several of these girls, dealing with a regular BF and said "BF" with money to spend.

Another part of the girls makes them shut down their brain, and think only in money and no other consequences and that means having sex with no protection, ergo the pregnancies.

Nooooo sir.
The girls don't want to be treated nicely.
Firstly they want money.
Nextly, they want money.
Thirdly, they might like to pass a breif tranquile moment.
Fourthly, check "Firstly".

The young and new customers are evil, cause they hate our presence at the clubs and they don't hide the fact at all.


Addendum:
By the way, I forgot to add another place where they play the music so loud as to scare the older folk away, and this is in the USA as a matter of fact:

At the Abercrombie & Fitch and the Abercrombie stores.

The music is so loud, my wife stays outside the store and Iam the one that has to go in with my son to buy his stuff.




Well, I thought we "old geezers" were all washed up, that we were all of little consequence, having no game, no attractiveness left, no ability to charm, no ability to solicit desire from females half our age, etc...Why would they feel we are such a huge threat to them? Why soooooo much jealousy and angst?

If the former be true, what could possibly be worrying the young so much about the old geezers that they would want to eliminate them from the party by insulting their sensibilities, whether it be through music or direct insults.

NOT all the young...but, some must believe the following fantasies about themselves, and it's likely that this is what management is counting on.

They obviously believe the old geezers do not have a chance in hell with the girls, right? So, why get so hot and bothered over whether an old geezer is playing the game right along side them or not?

Could it be.....Ego? Could it be that the old geezers threaten their egos? Who knows...I don't get it.

Could it be that they are admitting, on a subconscious level, as is evidenced by their effort to insult the sensibilities of the old geezers, that the old geezers are most certainly able to obtain, from the very same girls that the younger among them claim would never touch them, a level of debauchery that is almost unsurpassed by the young among them.

The young are sometimes naive, in-experienced, and have a mistaken perception that somehow the old geezers have no chance whatsoever with these girls. It is no wonder they are blind sided by the old geezers. The young can not comprehend how a male twice their age could possibly steal the girls away from them, they with their young, hard asses, with their bulging muscles, flat stomachs, hard bodies, and long haired or wavy hair lines.

God forbid, the old geezers might embarrass the young impetuous fools at their own game. Could it be that the management is praying that the old geezers will not thwart the young fools, and that the young fools will instead stay in the clubs to impetuously throw away money carelessly on the girls as the music blasts away. Because, the old geezers sure ain't gonna' do it.

The reality is, the old geezers are getting the best ass, while also simultaneously hording their pesos, getting everything from their girls that their hearts and loins desire.

Could it be that these young types are blinded by their own self proclaimed prowess, when really they partake in wasted antics, intended to impress the girls, all of which are based on some macho male, ego maniacal, stereotypical understanding of women?

Some young males DO NOT understand women, and the girls see right through them. That's what the management is counting on. So, the young dudes congratulate themselves on their self perceived youthful superiority, believing their youth is the result of their own accomplishment, and refusing to instead acknowledge that their youth is a blessing of time and nature.

They foolishly do not consider the wisdom and experience of age, nor do they totally comprehend what an advantage the old geezers truly have in the long run psychologically and intellectually.

Plus...

Don't they know that all the old geezers have to do is turn down their hearing aids and the music will have NO EFFECT upon them!!! :-))) Come 'On... :-))) They will have to do better than that!

[Member #3453]

Ok then, I accept all of that...But, that still does not explain the jealousy, and outright disdain by the young self perceived superiors to the old geezers.

What do they have to fear from the old geezers? The young ones believe themselves to be far superior, so why all the angst?

Old geezers that enjoy GFE encounters, and enjoy them in their most intense form, strive to find the very small percentage of girls that DO want to be treated nicely, want something more than just the money, and are legitimately attracted and "open" to an older male. That doesn't negate the money component, but it does transcend the normal bar girl attitude.

Those kinds of girls do exist, all be it in admittedly smaller proportion compared to the larger majority that are strictly money oriented. The girls that are open to old geezers are termed by some as "CRAZY," apparently crazier than the normal crazy bar girl. Frankly, I don't really care whether they are crazy, provided they deliver what I like, and are not dangerous, verdad?

Many times, when girls are represented to me as HOT, I recognize they are not of the small number of "unique" types that are open to me. No matter how hot they are, once I interview them, sometimes spending more than I should to make this determination, but generally within a shorter period of time, I give up on them, willingly, except to otherwise sometimes patronize them in the bars as friends once they are disqualified. I still buy them a drink or two, just to socialize, and simply to extend a kindness. Ultimately, the bottom line is, they must have something in their makeup that distinguishes them from the normal bar girl attitude, which consists of girls that are strictly after the money, and not open to my generation.

Some young males have no understanding whatsoever about what motivates a woman. That's the obstacle that results in their frustration, which is projected onto the old geezer crowd, magnified by their jealousy of the old geezer's apparent successes, and contrary to their self perceived youthful superiority complex.

Success in the emotional realm, with females, results in the MOST intense sex possible. Those that fail to understand that basic truth, fail to fully experience the depth of satisfaction that they could be experiencing. As a result of their own psychological neurosis, they have a misplaced jealousy of the old geezer that routinely achieves this. This jealousy is magnified to the point of the young one's display of jealousy, and self perceived superiority complex, etc... (ie: loud music, and openly articulated disdain of the old geezers).

And, yes, I used to love ANF. I remember a number of years ago when their clothing selections were high end casual, and their quality unsurpassed. They certainly do pander to impetuous youth these days. As a result, their appeal and reputation with the broadest cross section of the buying public, at least in the US, suffers greatly. I recall walking past their stores in the malls in years past, hords of customers, buying customers. Now, you walk past them, and they are comparatively empty, not to mention their degradation of quality merchandise.



My friend USB tends to forget that Monterrey as in other big Mexican cities, we tend to have to deal with young customers with money in their pockets and with no qualms to spend 1000, 2000, 3000 pesos on the girls.

This is a new generation of customers I get to see on a weekly, semi daily basis and I have seen them grow in numbers.

It is hard to deal with 2 things in the business:
The notion that the girl has a regular steady boyfriend AND a customer that has tons of money AND is handsom.

It doesn't matter if they don't know how to treat a girl, they still have the money and that's the first thing in the set of rules that the girls have in mind.

I will state as an example what I see at the Obsession MC, where for a period of several months there was an epidemic of pregnancies among the girls.

This due to the fact that some of the girls were "novias" with hunks with money that would take them on trips, would give them fine gifts and spend tons of money on them when visiting them at the clubs.

And I know several of these girls, dealing with a regular BF and said "BF" with money to spend.

Another part of the girls makes them shut down their brain, and think only in money and no other consequences and that means having sex with no protection, ergo the pregnancies.

Nooooo sir.
The girls don't want to be treated nicely.
Firstly they want money.
Nextly, they want money.
Thirdly, they might like to pass a breif tranquile moment.
Fourthly, check "Firstly".

The young and new customers are evil, cause they hate our presence at the clubs and they don't hide the fact at all.


Addendum:
By the way, I forgot to add another place where they play the music so loud as to scare the older folk away, and this is in the USA as a matter of fact:

At the Abercrombie & Fitch and the Abercrombie stores.

The music is so loud, my wife stays outside the store and Iam the one that has to go in with my son to buy his stuff.

[Tjmee]

If you're buying your son Abercrombie and Fitch I would say you're well off. But I didn't know people still wore that. Well not in the west coast anyways.

[MonterreyDude]

Unfortunatly Tjmee, I don't live in the West coast, I live in Monterrey, Mx and that's what the kids are wearing here... every single one of them, 7/24, rain or shine.




If you're buying your son Abercrombie and Fitch I would say you're well off. But I didn't know people still wore that. Well not in the west coast anyways.

[Ssmc2]

Just a quick question for you MP vets- When you pay for the hour is that one pop or multiple, or is it just ymmv?

[MonterreyDude]

From what I gather, it's just one pop.

At some places, even if you pay for an hour the girl will be anxious to leave the room and send you on your way once you're finished.




Just a quick question for you MP vets- When you pay for the hour is that one pop or multiple, or is it just ymmv?

[Slick Willie]

Unfortunatly Tjmee, I don't live in the West coast, I live in Monterrey, Mx and that's what the kids are wearing here... every single one of them, 7/24, rain or shine.The IHT had an interesting take yesterday on the latest fashion trends in Mexico:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/06/america/06mexico.php?page=1

[Precocious One]

Just a quick question for you MP vets- When you pay for the hour is that one pop or multiple, or is it just ymmv?


Misses($160-200) will give you multiples for one hour. Some establishments have now incorporated an ascenting price/time scale(i.e. 30min/40min/60min) which may permit two pops for the 60 minutes. Just negotiate upfront with the girl when she is presented to you. I am a 40-minute guy and I generally use the entire time(single shot) and I have only done multiples at Misses and a private privado when I pay for and hour and a hour and a half, respectively.

Most of these establishments are well run and are looking for repeat business. Right now, this is a very competitive industry due to the collapsing global economic environment. I am now seeing some places offering better girls for lower prices. This in just a four month time period. Also, I have recently been frequenting the S/C's and have been offered 6's and 7's at the lower end clubs for $60-70 for 1.5 hours before their shift starts. Some attractive dance club girls offer themselves for $40/hour. However, I do not recommend or partake with these girls as they generally do not possess or are required to have health cards.

I believe that the next 18 months are going to provide an unprecedented value for mongering both here and in the U.S.

[MonterreyDude]

It's strictly on a MP by MP basis, Precocious.

You are only mentioning the big daddy of them all that's Misses.

But for example, at Signore and similar they even specify that it's one pop.

At other places located on Diego de Montemayor like Subasta de Virgenes its 200 pesos per pop, 350 pesos per pop at Horoscope, 250 pesos per pop at Havana and so on.
If you want more, you need to pay again the starting price.

Yes, at place like Casa Rosa and Samara, they offer a 200 starting price for 20 minutes and 300 for half an hour, but that's also for one pop.

I don't know at Dr. Coss 713 norte... that is your forté.






Misses($160-200) will give you multiples for one hour. Some establishments have now incorporated an ascenting price/time scale(i.e. 30min/40min/60min) which may permit two pops for the 60 minutes. Just negotiate upfront with the girl when she is presented to you. I am a 40-minute guy and I generally use the entire time(single shot) and I have only done multiples at Misses and a private privado when I pay for and hour and a hour and a half, respectively.

Most of these establishments are well run and are looking for repeat business. Right now, this is a very competitive industry due to the collapsing global economic environment. I am now seeing some places offering better girls for lower prices. This in just a four month time period. Also, I have recently been frequenting the S/C's and have been offered 6's and 7's at the lower end clubs for $60-70 for 1.5 hours before their shift starts. Some attractive dance club girls offer themselves for $40/hour. However, I do not recommend or partake with these girls as they generally do not possess or are required to have health cards.

I believe that the next 18 months are going to provide an unprecedented value for mongering both here and in the U.S.

[Phlmonger]

I wish I found this site/thread sooner. I have been to MTY a few times over the last few months and had it in the back of my mind to check out these activities. I'm in town this week and staying in the central part of town at one of the larger hotels.

From what I've read, it seems like I might do myself good to get over to Infinito. I've read some of the reviews and found the excellent map that AmigoMio put together.

Is it worth my while to go there tonight (a Tuesday), and if so is there a protocol this super-obvious ultra white gringo with big blue eyes should follow?

[Phlmonger]

Against most advice here, I went to Reno tonight. Why? Because it's right around the corner from my hotel and I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about going up to Infinito just yet. I could use a local guide for a trip in that section.

I walked into Reno on this Monday night. It was dead. Lots of women. ONE male patron on a couch with a girl. Nobody dancing on the stage. But I'm already, in so I figured I'd give it it's due.

I got a Sol beer ($50p) and was quickly introduced to Sonia, a spunky red head beauty. I'd give her about a 7. Nice full figure, tiny tiny gut, but overall not so bad. I offer to buy her a drink, which she accepts. The server tells me it's $220p for her drink since it covers her "social time" with me. So, whatever. There wasn't anything else going on here. With the $100p door charge, I was already up to almost $400p before she got comfortable next to me.

We had a good talk, she sat on my lap and stroked me through my pants and tried to get me into the private room where it's $2000p for an hour or $1000p for 25 minutes. I asked her to give me her version of what, exactly, that entails. She was forthright and said she likes to give a BJ and HJ. I didn't bother asking for the upcharge for BBBJ. I jokingly, but half serious said, I'd like to get you back to my hotel and she laughed and said "that's impossible". DOH!

So I finished my drink and said I'd think about the private room, but I purposely only brought a little bit of cash to check out the place (which was true). She did the pressure sell of trying to convince me I could use a credit card (which I didn't bring with me anyway).

So, advice was dead on. Stay away. Rip off. I only went because it was a 1 block walk from my hotel (FA) and I just didn't feel ready for the taxi ride. Total spend was only $40 USD or so.

Amigo. I know you don't know me, but if you happen to be going by Infinito this week on Tue or Wed night, please PM me. I could use a local guide.

[Precocious One]

It's strictly on a MP by MP basis, Precocious.

You are only mentioning the big daddy of them all that's Misses.

But for example, at Signore and similar they even specify that it's one pop.

At other places located on Diego de Montemayor like Subasta de Virgenes its 200 pesos per pop, 350 pesos per pop at Horoscope, 250 pesos per pop at Havana and so on.
If you want more, you need to pay again the starting price.

Yes, at place like Casa Rosa and Samara, they offer a 200 starting price for 20 minutes and 300 for half an hour, but that's also for one pop.

I don't know at Dr. Coss 713 norte... that is your forté.


As you know, I generally don't do the low-end places. The lowest I have been on a regular basis is D'Angy(40/40 minutes) because a girl there gave me incredible service. I am fairly positive I could have gotten two pops for $40, but that's just not my style. If you are a regular at a particular place and are a respected customer(treat the women well/no complaints), a good operator(Misses, Romanos, Extravagance, Signore and most others) tends to leave the rules up to the girl.

I am fairly positive about one thing. Some of these MP's that incorporate stringent rules(no touching or kissing;permitted upselling) with their girls(Estetica Roma, Le Baron;$50/40 minutes) are going to be in for a rude economic awakening. I don't know if it's just me, but some S/C girls are now currently offering deals that will make a few of these MP's obsolete if they choose not to modify their policies. When you can get 1.5-2 hours as opposed to 40 minutes for $30 more with substantially better unregulated service, there is unequivocally no question in regards to who presents the better value.

I would rather stay at home and jack off to some good quality porn than patronize a few of these MP's.

But then again I won't need to. I'll just head on over to the S/C's.

[Precocious One]

Against most advice here, I went to Reno tonight. Why? Because it's right around the corner from my hotel and I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about going up to Infinito just yet. I could use a local guide for a trip in that section.

I walked into Reno on this Monday night. It was dead. Lots of women. ONE male patron on a couch with a girl. Nobody dancing on the stage. But I'm already, in so I figured I'd give it it's due.

I got a Sol beer ($50p) and was quickly introduced to Sonia, a spunky red head beauty. I'd give her about a 7. Nice full figure, tiny tiny gut, but overall not so bad. I offer to buy her a drink, which she accepts. The server tells me it's $220p for her drink since it covers her "social time" with me. So, whatever. There wasn't anything else going on here. With the $100p door charge, I was already up to almost $400p before she got comfortable next to me.

We had a good talk, she sat on my lap and stroked me through my pants and tried to get me into the private room where it's $2000p for an hour or $1000p for 25 minutes. I asked her to give me her version of what, exactly, that entails. She was forthright and said she likes to give a BJ and HJ. I didn't bother asking for the upcharge for BBBJ. I jokingly, but half serious said, I'd like to get you back to my hotel and she laughed and said "that's impossible". DOH!

So I finished my drink and said I'd think about the private room, but I purposely only brought a little bit of cash to check out the place (which was true). She did the pressure sell of trying to convince me I could use a credit card (which I didn't bring with me anyway).

So, advice was dead on. Stay away. Rip off. I only went because it was a 1 block walk from my hotel (FA) and I just didn't feel ready for the taxi ride. Total spend was only $40 USD or so.

Amigo. I know you don't know me, but if you happen to be going by Infinito this week on Tue or Wed night, please PM me. I could use a local guide.

I never comment on the S/C's as they are not my thing. Also, there are others that post here that are far more experienced than me regarding the S/C's and I generally leave it to them in disseminating information but I am going to make an exception here.

You went to Reno or the Mandalay Bay Casino? What the fu_k are you doing paying Las Vegas prices for in Monterrey, MX? Five dollars for a beer? Twenty-two dollars for a ficha? Ten dollar door charge? On a Monday night?

Phlmonger. Head on over to Givenchy tonight or tommorow. They have two for one beers($1.00 each) and fichas are six dollars. Five dollar table dances. The Tangalay(across the street) offers four table dances for $10.00 when the girls are presented on-stage but no drink specials.

Remember. This is Mexico not Las Vegas.


P.S.
Don't know if this is your thing but Motley Crue is playing tonight at the Monterrey Arena at 9:00 PM. Ticket prices are $30-150 and can be purchased right at the gate.

[MonterreyDude]

And precisely Precocious, that's what am saying.

You are the man for the medium and up MPs.

You know them like the palm of your hand.




As you know, I generally don't do the low-end places. The lowest I have been on a regular basis is D'Angy(40/40 minutes) because a girl there gave me incredible service. I am fairly positive I could have gotten two pops for $40, but that's just not my style. If you are a regular at a particular place and are a respected customer(treat the women well/no complaints), a good operator(Misses, Romanos, Extravagance, Signore and most others) tends to leave the rules up to the girl.

I am fairly positive about one thing. Some of these MP's that incorporate stringent rules(no touching or kissing;permitted upselling) with their girls(Estetica Roma, Le Baron;$50/40 minutes) are going to be in for a rude economic awakening. I don't know if it's just me, but some S/C girls are now currently offering deals that will make a few of these MP's obsolete if they choose not to modify their policies. When you can get 1.5-2 hours as opposed to 40 minutes for $30 more with substantially better unregulated service, there is unequivocally no question in regards to who presents the better value.

I would rather stay at home and jack off to some good quality porn than patronize a few of these MP's.

But then again I won't need to. I'll just head on over to the S/C's.

[MonterreyDude]

You should be chastised for going to Reno.

No... just kidding.

If you aim for quality SCs, go to Prestige and Obsession.
They have an incredible manifest of girls and prices, even if expensive, are almost half to Reno's extemely expensive prices.

Poisson too.
Closer to the hotels district area, good club and great looking girls.

Phlmonger, am PMing you.




Against most advice here, I went to Reno tonight. Why? Because it's right around the corner from my hotel and I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about going up to Infinito just yet. I could use a local guide for a trip in that section.

I walked into Reno on this Monday night. It was dead. Lots of women. ONE male patron on a couch with a girl. Nobody dancing on the stage. But I'm already, in so I figured I'd give it it's due.

I got a Sol beer ($50p) and was quickly introduced to Sonia, a spunky red head beauty. I'd give her about a 7. Nice full figure, tiny tiny gut, but overall not so bad. I offer to buy her a drink, which she accepts. The server tells me it's $220p for her drink since it covers her "social time" with me. So, whatever. There wasn't anything else going on here. With the $100p door charge, I was already up to almost $400p before she got comfortable next to me.

We had a good talk, she sat on my lap and stroked me through my pants and tried to get me into the private room where it's $2000p for an hour or $1000p for 25 minutes. I asked her to give me her version of what, exactly, that entails. She was forthright and said she likes to give a BJ and HJ. I didn't bother asking for the upcharge for BBBJ. I jokingly, but half serious said, I'd like to get you back to my hotel and she laughed and said "that's impossible". DOH!

So I finished my drink and said I'd think about the private room, but I purposely only brought a little bit of cash to check out the place (which was true). She did the pressure sell of trying to convince me I could use a credit card (which I didn't bring with me anyway).

So, advice was dead on. Stay away. Rip off. I only went because it was a 1 block walk from my hotel (FA) and I just didn't feel ready for the taxi ride. Total spend was only $40 USD or so.

Amigo. I know you don't know me, but if you happen to be going by Infinito this week on Tue or Wed night, please PM me. I could use a local guide.

[Doubt98]

I know this is a mongering forum but I had a question. With the recent spike in pesos to dollars has there been any effect at the local level? You know, other than making it a better deal for those going from dollars to pesos.

[MonterreyDude]

Ahem... the spike just hit yesterday.

It will be way into 2009 before we see the real impact of the downfall of Wall Street and the world wide effects.




I know this is a mongering forum but I had a question. With the recent spike in pesos to dollars has there been any effect at the local level? You know, other than making it a better deal for those going from dollars to pesos.

[MonterreyDude]

Phlmonger... I can't PM you.

You need to be a registered paying memeber to use the PM system.




Against most advice here, I went to Reno tonight. Why? Because it's right around the corner from my hotel and I'm not sure if I feel comfortable about going up to Infinito just yet. I could use a local guide for a trip in that section.

I walked into Reno on this Monday night. It was dead. Lots of women. ONE male patron on a couch with a girl. Nobody dancing on the stage. But I'm already, in so I figured I'd give it it's due.

I got a Sol beer ($50p) and was quickly introduced to Sonia, a spunky red head beauty. I'd give her about a 7. Nice full figure, tiny tiny gut, but overall not so bad. I offer to buy her a drink, which she accepts. The server tells me it's $220p for her drink since it covers her "social time" with me. So, whatever. There wasn't anything else going on here. With the $100p door charge, I was already up to almost $400p before she got comfortable next to me.

We had a good talk, she sat on my lap and stroked me through my pants and tried to get me into the private room where it's $2000p for an hour or $1000p for 25 minutes. I asked her to give me her version of what, exactly, that entails. She was forthright and said she likes to give a BJ and HJ. I didn't bother asking for the upcharge for BBBJ. I jokingly, but half serious said, I'd like to get you back to my hotel and she laughed and said "that's impossible". DOH!

So I finished my drink and said I'd think about the private room, but I purposely only brought a little bit of cash to check out the place (which was true). She did the pressure sell of trying to convince me I could use a credit card (which I didn't bring with me anyway).

So, advice was dead on. Stay away. Rip off. I only went because it was a 1 block walk from my hotel (FA) and I just didn't feel ready for the taxi ride. Total spend was only $40 USD or so.

Amigo. I know you don't know me, but if you happen to be going by Infinito this week on Tue or Wed night, please PM me. I could use a local guide.

[Phlmonger]

Phlmonger... I can't PM you.

You need to be a registered paying memeber to use the PM system.Yup. I learned that when I went looking for your PM. LOL.

I'm debating the membership. After this week I'm back in the US for the forseeable future, so I'm not sure if I'll realize the value of this site until I do some more intl. Travel. I wish I found this site sooner.

At the recommendation of another poster, I WILL be going to the Crue concert tonight (thanks for the tip! ). Maybe afterwards I'll be feeling adventurous enough to head to Infinitos.

[Member #3453]

The SC's have always been a better deal if you are looking for more than the short time, quick pop, and you are a frequent vistor, or living in Monterrey....As someone recently put it, it is the "unregulated" environment that surpasses all other venues.

Costs in general are going up, up, up...In addition, we are ALL getting older, as the girls get incrementally younger. Younger girls, older dudes, higher price. If it seems that the SC venue is all of a sudden offering better opportunities, it is more likely that the effects of ones personal expertise is driving the costs down. The fact is, the girls are actually quoting higher prices to the average visitor, not lower prices. If lower prices are being quoted by the girls, it's the ability of the monger himself that drives that scenario.

I have ALWAYS, for almost eight years, received the longest number of hours from the SC girls, often todo la noche, and sometimes at unbelievably low prices, like 500-800 pesos, plus the salida fee for the bar, typically 300-350 pesos.

Another thing that I've found to be true is that once I've had them back to the hotel the first time, they realize they have lost their novelty, and they scramble to maintain me as a regular customer.

They do this for two reasons. First, they get to leave work, make about the same as they would make were they doing privados, and they get to relax, depending on the kind of environment you offer them.

The second reason is, they do not get to do that many salidas. Clients that treat them nicely, and take them on salida, especially on a regular basis, are a novelty to them, and not only a novelty, an ego boost. They don't want to lose your attention, so they will offer their services at reduced rates to support their own egos, and maintain the cash flow.

Case in point: Most recently, a girl that I had originally paid 1000 pesos the first time, went for the second time at 800 pesos. The first time, she was in the room for 2 hours. The second time, I picked her up at 12am and she did not leave until 6am, 6 hours, apparently realizing too late that she had almost stayed past her bar's closing time. I have one girl that I have known for at least 6-7 yeasrs. She goes with me for nothing...always anticipating payment of course, and getting paid, of course, but staying all night, and giving herselt to me completely, GFE style.

[MonterreyDude]

USB makes it sound easy... it ain't.

USB has the benefit of knowing the girls but he keeps losing track of them (one rule in my book is NOT LOSING TRACK), but he feels at ease cause he's been to Monterrey many many times.

Another USB benefit is that he walks into the club as a regular customer.
The girls notice this and that's when they turn on their radar.
Of course USB doesn't tell you that for over a year he did not have alternate choices.
He has them now after ElCabron and me kept pressing him for I don't know how many months to look for more choices and new choices too.

USB has this new set of choices cause finally he has paid attention to me, not to look like a cheapskate gringo.
He now entertains several girls at the table with a business like attitude and the girls understand that.

Any new comers to Infinito beware: the place WILL overwhelm you on your first visit.
I've seen Americans come in, stare at the place and the girls, the action and what's going on at the privados and they just up and leave cause they don't get the place.

Phlmonger: Night shift at Infinito (no "s" at the end) is a toughie. Girls are tough and rough, no comparison to the afternonn girls that we deal with.
I would have suggested Pasarelas, Harem or Casino.

By the way, hopefully, you will be taken to Infinito.
Taxi drivers tend to be hit with amnesia, pretend they don't know the adress or the club and will drive you to clubs where they get kickbacks.
If it doesn't work that way, you will be taken to Obsession or Prestige.







The SC's have always been a better deal if you are looking for more than the short time, quick pop, and you are a frequent vistor, or living in Monterrey....As someone recently put it, it is the "unregulated" environment that surpasses all other venues.

Costs in general are going up, up, up...In addition, we are ALL getting older, as the girls get incrementally younger. Younger girls, older dudes, higher price. If it seems that the SC venue is all of a sudden offering better opportunities, it is more likely that the effects of ones personal expertise is driving the costs down. The fact is, the girls are actually quoting higher prices to the average visitor, not lower prices. If lower prices are being quoted by the girls, it's the ability of the monger himself that drives that scenario.

I have ALWAYS, for almost eight years, received the longest number of hours from the SC girls, often todo la noche, and sometimes at unbelievably low prices, like 500-800 pesos, plus the salida fee for the bar, typically 300-350 pesos.

Another thing that I've found to be true is that once I've had them back to the hotel the first time, they realize they have lost their novelty, and they scramble to maintain me as a regular customer.

They do this for two reasons. First, they get to leave work, make about the same as they would make were they doing privados, and they get to relax, depending on the kind of environment you offer them.

The second reason is, they do not get to do that many salidas. Clients that treat them nicely, and take them on salida, especially on a regular basis, are a novelty to them, and not only a novelty, an ego boost. They don't want to lose your attention, so they will offer their services at reduced rates to support their own egos, and maintain the cash flow.

Case in point: Most recently, a girl that I had originally paid 1000 pesos the first time, went for the second time at 800 pesos. The first time, she was in the room for 2 hours. The second time, I picked her up at 12am and she did not leave until 6am, 6 hours, apparently realizing too late that she had almost stayed past her bar's closing time. I have one girl that I have known for at least 6-7 yeasrs. She goes with me for nothing...always anticipating payment of course, and getting paid, of course, but staying all night, and giving herselt to me completely, GFE style.

[Phlmonger]

All the tips and info here have been valuable. After the Crue concert tonight, my work colleague from Mex City wanted to go to Obsession. I was lukewarm on it, based on what I read here, but at least I knew what to expect. He advised against Infinito for me, so I might have to try that one another time. I was hoping to find a place that the band would be hanging out, given their notorius penchant for strip clubs.

I thoroughly enjoyed Obsession, despite paying more than I would have elsewhere (yet far less than I would have paid in the states and without anything close to FS). It was definitely MUCH MUCH better than my prior night at Reno. I had Heidy (her real name. I've already forgotten her stage name). We first did a 15 minute private room dance for. $600. But I knew there was more, so after that I did the full hour in the even more private room with a locked door for. (don't chastise me) $2050. Look, I know I could have gotten cheaper in other places, but I really liked this venue. Actually, I really liked my experience with HER. But I also know I'll do some comparison shopping and $2600+ isn't a HUGE sum of money to lose in a research mission like this. Especially with the US Dollar at 12 pesos or so.

Heidy made my entire hour worth every penny, though. Nothing was rushed, and nothing was off limits. I would frankly love to go back to see her if it weren't so darned expensive.

Now having been to a rip off joint (Reno), and an 'upscale' joint (Obsession), I'm ready to take it down a notch or two and try something more along the lines of Infinito or Signor. I'll be the gringo at one (or both) of them Wed night. Just tap me on the shoulder and say Hi to phlmonger. LOL. : D: D


Phlmonger: Night shift at Infinito (no "s" at the end) is a toughie. Girls are tough and rough, no comparison to the afternonn girls that we deal with. I would have suggested Pasarelas, Harem or Casino.

By the way, hopefully, you will be taken to Infinito. Taxi drivers tend to be hit with amnesia, pretend they don't know the adress or the club and will drive you to clubs where they get kickbacks. If it doesn't work that way, you will be taken to Obsession or Prestige. EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Member #3453]

It was not my intention to make it sound easy...as you said, the salida scene isn't an easy one to make everything come together according to my preferences. I don't mean that you can't walk into the bars, pay the salida, and not take a girl out of the clubs. That is easy.

What is difficult is finding girls that give more than what you can routinely find in the MPs, ie: time, and legitimate GFE, for about the same price, or even less. With me, it is always about time spent...amortization is the key word. MPs are the low end bench mark with respect to cost versus time because it's a controlled environment.

As I said, if anyone realizes all of a sudden that they are starting to operate efficiently in the SCs, just as well as if they were in the MPs, it is their own expertise and their own open mindedness as to the possibilities. I have beaten that MP cost factor so often through SC girls in the past that I simply can not, myself, partake in the MPs. I don't mean that as a slam to MPers, just that I have found such a better value out of SC girls that to settle for MPs is more expensive for me as it relates to quality of my preferred experience.

I accept that what I like isn't what everyone else is looking for. To some, they can not get rid of the girls soon enough after screwing them. My preferences are different in that I enjoy the interaction, the intamacy over time, the friendship, the lessons learned in Spanish, etc...

The ocassional or one time visitor simply doesn't have the luxury of time like the regular visitor or resident Regio. I do not have the luxury of time that the locals have, and I am severely limited by that. If I lived there, I would undoubtedly be foolishly smitten and married to one of them, if not ceramoniously, then certainly with respect to common law commitments :P

Fact is, I actually know a monger that used to visit Monterrey from the US, and he moved to Monterrey eventually. Eventually, over time, after playing the salida scene for a while, he did meet a girl at Matahuela, married her, and is living happily ever after there in Monterrey. She is probably in her early thirties by now, and he is in the range of retirement age, then and now.

So, when I hear that ALL girls have no interest in older men, I know from my own first hand experiences, and also from my knowledge of other mongers, that the GFE knows no real boundries if you find the right "kind" of girls. Some have no interest in older men, it's true, the majority certainly. But, some have a lot of interest, and not just financial interest, which is certainly a "security" component, but also emotional, romantic, and carino interest as well. But, of course, once things progress to that level, certainly, the relationship is not related to a mongering existence, per se.

I mention this sceario because it illustrates the progression of what IS possible with respect to legitimate GFE in Monterrey. In the past, in other worldwide venues, the "long time" GFE is so common place, the PI, Indonesia, Colombia, etc...It is most definitely not something commonly found in Monterrey without a totally different outlook, and without a strong personal desire for that kind of scenario. It is also significant work to "SELL" a young girl on the whole idea. But, it can be done in Monterrey. What is so easy in Asia for example, is a lot of work in Monterrey, but VERY possible, even for those of you that are mature, and understand how to play the game. I don't mean this to sound like I am some kind of match maker, other than to illustrate that the GFE is possible. I am not advocating that anyone go down to Monterrey to find their soulmate. But, it does happen.

In addition, when Amigomio accuses me of losing track of the girls that I do consort with in the bars, it just goes to illustrate that even visiting as frequently as I do is still a disadvantage compared to the locals.

That's why I fully agree with the MP recommendations made here. It is probably the best option given time constraints. But, for those that live in Monterrey, or frequently visit Monterrey, at least with respect to meeting my same list of criteria, which are admittedly sometimes demanding, and different, the SCs are the better option.

However, in the past, I have actually taken an MP girl on salida. It was ok, but her personality was not to the charm level that's typical of strip club girls. The MP girls don't have to turn on the charm to sell drinks. So, they typically have no personality, have no practice delivering charm, or are so hardened from delivering sex 10 times a day that they are virtually a lost cause with respect to sweetness and personality. They just have to deliver the goods in the MPs, and everything else they might deliver to you is a bonus. So, my conclusions with respect to bar fining MP girls, unless you find an exception to the rule, are that they are not nearly as interesting on salida as the SC girls, some of which are party girls that offer a fun and interesting time in addition to the standard activities. And, even then, the best ones are hard to find.

As for ignoring advice from Amigomio and El Cabron, I never ignored it. I worked girls in different clubs, and kept my activities secret, here, and everywhere. I will always maintain my privacy here in the future with respect to specifics. I have started to divulge more details to Amigomio about my specific activities, but even then, the extent of my activities are significantly limited compared to past years. Who knows, perhaps what I am relating here is strictly my past experiences, and I am truly married to one of them right now. Hold that thought, because...

It is very, very difficult to cultivate a string of GFE girls, trying to work them all in, while simultaneously maintaining the atmosphere of GFE with them individually. I find that one can not really have the intensity of experience with more than about 4 girls, especially if you visit for several days at a time each month, and do not live in Monterrey. So, I purposefully have a stable of girls that I intend to work into the rotation. But, honestly, I am relatively married to one of them at this juncture, and have little motivation to work them all in. However, because I do subscribe to the advise given by El Cabron and Amigomio, I do, on ocassaion, try to work others of them in, and more importantly, to practice the skills to re-enter the game should I need to. But, honestly, many times, my heart ain't in it.

I always spent money on select girls at Prestige and Obsession, but I am no further along in those bars with respect to actually realizing the efficiency of the game now than I was 8 years ago, perhaps with the exception of one girl I know a girl at a high end bar that I have turned into a regular that may see me outside the bar on her off time. That is a rarity in the higher end bars. The difficulty at the high end bars is that the girls risk their jobs if they meet anyone outside. So, they are much more reluctant to meet. However, in my particular case, I found "one," just one, out of all the girls I have cultivated in the high end clubs over time, only one that meets my criteria, that over a period of almost 8 years. Well, there was Lilly at Obsession, but that goes back almost to the beginning of time, and really doesn't count.


USB makes it sound easy... it ain't.

USB has the benefit of knowing the girls but he keeps losing track of them (one rule in my book is NOT LOSING TRACK), but he feels at ease cause he's been to Monterrey many many times.

Another USB benefit is that he walks into the club as a regular customer.
The girls notice this and that's when they turn on their radar.
Of course USB doesn't tell you that for over a year he did not have alternate choices.
He has them now after ElCabron and me kept pressing him for I don't know how many months to look for more choices and new choices too.

USB has this new set of choices cause finally he has paid attention to me, not to look like a cheapskate gringo.
He now entertains several girls at the table with a business like attitude and the girls understand that.

Any new comers to Infinito beware: the place WILL overwhelm you on your first visit.
I've seen Americans come in, stare at the place and the girls, the action and what's going on at the privados and they just up and leave cause they don't get the place.

Phlmonger: Night shift at Infinito (no "s" at the end) is a toughie. Girls are tough and rough, no comparison to the afternonn girls that we deal with.
I would have suggested Pasarelas, Harem or Casino.

By the way, hopefully, you will be taken to Infinito.
Taxi drivers tend to be hit with amnesia, pretend they don't know the adress or the club and will drive you to clubs where they get kickbacks.
If it doesn't work that way, you will be taken to Obsession or Prestige.

[Precocious One]

Yup. I learned that when I went looking for your PM. LOL.

I'm debating the membership. After this week I'm back in the US for the forseeable future, so I'm not sure if I'll realize the value of this site until I do some more intl. Travel. I wish I found this site sooner.

At the recommendation of another poster, I WILL be going to the Crue concert tonight (thanks for the tip! ). Maybe afterwards I'll be feeling adventurous enough to head to Infinitos.


Motley Crue rocked last night. Unbelievable. Those guys are older than me.

The clubs on Villagran were dead at midnight. But then again, Tuesdays are notoriously slow here in Monterrey.

[Precocious One]

I know this is a mongering forum but I had a question. With the recent spike in pesos to dollars has there been any effect at the local level? You know, other than making it a better deal for those going from dollars to pesos.

It is at 12 to 1 right now. Many analysts believe that the rate will stay this high or continue to increase for the next three to six months as investors flock to the safety of U.S.Treasuries(Reserve Currency) and carry trades are unwound.

I think all countries are contracting at an unprecedented rate right now as seen by declines in global PCE(personal consumption expenditures). As I posted earlier, I believe that the next 18 months will provide absolutely tremendous values for mongering in the U.S. and abroad. I already see it happening here in Monterrey. In the last six weeks or so, Calle Villagran is noticeably slower on the weekends and there are more and prettier girls working in the clubs and MP's. I have read the same slowdown in regards to many Mexico border towns.

FWIW, the last time the U.S. faced both a declining equities and RRE(residential real estate) market was in 1927-1929, which resulted in the Great Depression. Do not listen to those kooks on CNBC. Things are very bad right now and the global financial System is in completely unchartered territory. There is a distinct possibility that the whole shadow banking System is going to collapse rendering our fiat dollars worthless. Coordinated global interest rate cuts aren't going to do sh_t as evidenced today by the markets continuing to drop even after an irrelevant half-point cut. Also, the financial short-selling ban ends today. If the Hedge Funds and Investment Banks come in and start shorting the financials and one of the big banks gets taken out(C,WFC,BofA,JPM), the System could fail.

And if it were to happen, the failure will be at a much more frenetic pace than what occured in 1923 Weimar Germany(hyperinflation within six months). In the next thirty days, it would not suprise me if the U.S. banks start limiting cash withdrawals to $500 a day.

I am generally a pretty cool customer.

Right now I am scared sh_tless.

[MonterreyDude]

Phlmonger, anyone in Monterrey will tell you that going to Infinito and/or Givenchy or Matehuala is hazardous to your health, but it isn't.

First of all, Infinito and Matehuala have incredible urban legends going around them (minors working at these places, fights breaking out, shootings and killings going on) but they are indeed false.

Next, the choice of Obsession is quite good.
Right now both brother clubs Obsession and Prestige boast an incredible array of girls (I can vouch for Prestige at night) and are considerable less costly than the Amnesia family (Amnesia, Premiere, Reno).

But anyway, the best choices for visiting price-wise are still Pasarelas, Harem and Casino, again prices are slashed compared to Obsession and Prestige.
Maybe girl quality will be different, but still it will be cheaper to have fun at said clubs.

Phlmonger, if you have a chance tonight for an outing, opting for Infinito, like I said in another post, might be a little tough since their is no one there with patience to explain how it works.
But I would go for Pasarelas.
This club has been favored by visitors to our city.

If you can go to Casino (on my map, a little further away from the regular clubs and just 2 steps away from Prestige on the same avenue), it will also be a good choice.

Manuel the waiter speaks English and he is the type that will help you out.
If you go there, just ask for him.




All the tips and info here have been valuable. After the Crue concert tonight, my work colleague from Mex City wanted to go to Obsession. I was lukewarm on it, based on what I read here, but at least I knew what to expect. He advised against Infinito for me, so I might have to try that one another time. I was hoping to find a place that the band would be hanging out, given their notorius penchant for strip clubs.

I thoroughly enjoyed Obsession, despite paying more than I would have elsewhere (yet far less than I would have paid in the states and without anything close to FS). It was definitely MUCH MUCH better than my prior night at Reno. I had Heidy (her real name. I've already forgotten her stage name). We first did a 15 minute private room dance for. $600. But I knew there was more, so after that I did the full hour in the even more private room with a locked door for. (don't chastise me) $2050. Look, I know I could have gotten cheaper in other places, but I really liked this venue. Actually, I really liked my experience with HER. But I also know I'll do some comparison shopping and $2600+ isn't a HUGE sum of money to lose in a research mission like this. Especially with the US Dollar at 12 pesos or so.

Heidy made my entire hour worth every penny, though. Nothing was rushed, and nothing was off limits. I would frankly love to go back to see her if it weren't so darned expensive.

Now having been to a rip off joint (Reno), and an 'upscale' joint (Obsession), I'm ready to take it down a notch or two and try something more along the lines of Infinito or Signor. I'll be the gringo at one (or both) of them Wed night. Just tap me on the shoulder and say Hi to phlmonger. LOL. : D: D

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[Phlmonger]

Thanks for the extended tips, Amigo. As I have to get up at 430am for a very early flight tomorrow, perhaps I should take it easy. Or perhaps I should go to Casino after dinner for a little goodnight kiss.

Funny, after the Crue concert last night people were handing out Casino cards, so maybe I'll try it tonight.

I'm glad we had an overall good experience at Obsession. And looking at the exchange rate, it was even cheaper than I thought.

[Doubt98]

I also believe that things are in horrible shape. But the comparison between 1929 and today needs to include the fact that back then they tried a very restrictive monetary policy. Opposite today. I also think the next thirty days will be the critical time. I am scared to, I don't think anyone who half way understands this situation isn't scared. But I feel that it is a confidence problem as much as anything else. When banks began to work together again you will see a more normalization of the credit market. The stock market is just people panicking and pulling their money out. After 9/11 we lost about 1/2 of the value of the S&P 500. Today we have almost there again. I think we are just bottoming and will come out of it. They always say that the time to buy is when everyone else is scared, that would be now. I haven't sold, and I will buy some when it starts coming back up. But I'm the eternal optimist.

My first purchase will be foreign currency later this week and i'm expecting a very good return on investment.

[Precocious One]

I also believe that things are in horrible shape. But the comparison between 1929 and today needs to include the fact that back then they tried a very restrictive monetary policy. Opposite today. I also think the next thirty days will be the critical time. I am scared to, I don't think anyone who half way understands this situation isn't scared. But I feel that it is a confidence problem as much as anything else. When banks began to work together again you will see a more normalization of the credit market. The stock market is just people panicking and pulling their money out. After 9/11 we lost about 1/2 of the value of the S&P 500. Today we have almost there again. I think we are just bottoming and will come out of it. They always say that the time to buy is when everyone else is scared, that would be now. I haven't sold, and I will buy some when it starts coming back up. But I'm the eternal optimist.

My first purchase will be foreign currency later this week and i'm expecting a very good return on investment.

Confidence is all that a fiat currency has to offer. Once faith in the currency is replaced by fear of the currency, it is essentially over.

itulip.com believes that this impending economic collapse parallels that to the Depression of 1873, which was actually more severe by most accounts.

If GM BK's out, cascading-cross derivative defaults could break the S&P's 2003 lows. In fact, the whole System could crash then. The whole System is in a very precarious state. Six months of storable food is a good buy right now.

[Precocious One]

So, after an incredible, sweat-drenched GFE session with a new girl at one of my preferred establishments, I spent some time shooting the sh_t with the owner. Apparanty, no less that 15 Monterrey residents(all Mexicanos) have recently come into this establishment after reading positive reviews on the ISG forum.

And that's great. That is why this forum is here. However...

please do not demand that the girls provide services that were mentioned here or referenced to on this board. In the U.S. we have an acronym referred to as YMMV(your mileage may vary). Just because a particular type of service was provided to one of us here does not necessarily mean that it will be provided to you. Just as the case that services provided to you may not be offered to us. The reports posted here are for all to use and not abuse. Creating an uncomfortable situation for the girls discourages people from posting here. I knew that I had previously developed somewhat tenuous relations with two very nice girls that I am a client of and now I know why.

Also, this forum is not limited for use by Americans. Monterrey residents are encouraged to post here with their recommendations and experiences both in the MP's and S/C's.

Sometimes I just cannot figure out this Monterrey thread. In Jackson's www.argentinaprivate.com/ forum, it is all about guys helping each other out(names,numbers,ratings,services rendered).

For some reason, its different here.

[Member #3453]

The biggest reason not to post specifics if one is a frequent visitor or living in Monterrey is that Monterrey is a venue unto itself, unique. But, having sampled a lot of other venues, I have concluded that the "best" that the world has to offer is also attainable in Monterrey, perhaps even better, but it is very rare per capita, and requires significantly more work.

The unique distinction that is "Monterrey" is precisely the reason that posting particulars can be totally detrimental to your own fun on the ground. Some that pick up the specifics, simply don't use the proper discretion, and they can, and do, sabatage others, and with girls that we, according to our own individual preferences, work hard to find.

In the end, after the few that are careless with the information are through sabotaging what we have worked hard to identify, sometimes even innocently, we are left with the mediocre leftovers as a result of sometimes not being able to repair the damage done to those relationships. It is precisely the reason we used synonyms for the girls, and have all but totally witheld even the smallest specific tidbits of information, opting most recently not to post anything of specicivity.

The same GFEs that are so easily found in the other venues are available in Monterrey...but, it takes a hell of a lot of effort and expense to find them in comparison. So, while the indescriminate disclosure of specific detailed information has a minor effect on securing a good thing in Asia, Colombia, Argentina, etc..it has a major effect on securing a good thing in Monterrey.

The distinction is a matter of supply and demand in Monterrey. There are simply too many mongers, and too few girls. In the other notorious venues, the girls out number the mongers 1000 to 1, and sabotage of the girl you screwed last night has absolutely NO effect on the fun you will have the next night.

That's the reason there are differences between the content posted in other threads...

[MonterreyDude]

Yes Precocious, Unspongebob is right, but not for the reasons he mentions.

Monterrey is 100% different from other venues, like lets say, TJ.

TJ girls are older, and more like working with a "I don't care about you" mentality.
Besides that, the mayority of the girls are not local as the working girls in Monterrey are.

And the mongers that visit TJ and any other border town, for example, forget the names of the girls in a second.

Monterrey is so different and you are proof to that Precocious.
Girls like your business.
Hell... you have tons of fun here.

Again, going back to other places other than Montrrey.

For some reason or another, girls there move so quickly around the clubs, coming and going, new girls appearing and disapearing, that they are not there the next time a monger comes to the club with a print out taken from this or other forums.

Besides that, many girls in the border towns are totally illeterate regarding the Web, internet and forums like this one.

And with all due respect to my fellow friends that visit the border towns...
...guys visiting the border towns, and the TJ thread atests to this, do not go to the higher end clubs nor use the services of higher end girls (by higher end am talking of a Poisson-Pasarelas-Harem equivalent).

Girls working at clubs like Bar Adelita in TJ and Bar Papagayo at NLBT, not to mention the street girls or the door girls at their respective Zonas are not up to par with what we have here in Monterrey, both in education and social standing.

And in some way or another, mongers visiting those places manage not to hurt the business... I don't know why.
Maybe the girls are made of Teflon, so it doesn't stick.

Besides, the mongers visiting "other places" look for more "pops" per hour, quite the contrary of what we look for here.







The biggest reason not to post specifics if one is a frequent visitor or living in Monterrey is that Monterrey is a venue unto itself, unique. But, having sampled a lot of other venues, I have concluded that the "best" that the world has to offer is also attainable in Monterrey, perhaps even better, but it is very rare per capita, and requires significantly more work.

The unique distinction that is "Monterrey" is precisely the reason that posting particulars can be totally detrimental to your own fun on the ground. Some that pick up the specifics, simply don't use the proper discretion, and they can, and do, sabatage others, and with girls that we, according to our own individual preferences, work hard to find.

In the end, after the few that are careless with the information are through sabotaging what we have worked hard to identify, sometimes even innocently, we are left with the mediocre leftovers as a result of sometimes not being able to repair the damage done to those relationships. It is precisely the reason we used synonyms for the girls, and have all but totally witheld even the smallest specific tidbits of information, opting most recently not to post anything of specicivity.

The same GFEs that are so easily found in the other venues are available in Monterrey...but, it takes a hell of a lot of effort and expense to find them in comparison. So, while the indescriminate disclosure of specific detailed information has a minor effect on securing a good thing in Asia, Colombia, Argentina, etc..it has a major effect on securing a good thing in Monterrey.

The distinction is a matter of supply and demand in Monterrey. There are simply too many mongers, and too few girls. In the other notorious venues, the girls out number the mongers 1000 to 1, and sabotage of the girl you screwed last night has absolutely NO effect on the fun you will have the next night.

That's the reason there are differences between the content posted in other threads...

[Member #3453]

Monterrey is 100% different from other venues, like lets say, TJ. Besides, the mongers visiting "other places" look for more "pops" per hour, quite the contrary of what we look for here.

Certainly, your assessment of Mexico may be correct with respect to comparing a very small, and relatively insignificant venue with respect to the world as a whole.

One of the reasons I, and others, are sometimes so hard on Mexico, is knowing the potential available in some of the other worldwide venues. I have, for probably at least three years, concluded that my concept of perfection is available in Mexico, but compared to the rest of the world, it is significantly more difficult to achieve the same thing commonly found in such abundance in places other than Mexico.

However, that should not be construed as a slam to Mexico. I am, afterall, concluding that I prefer to play in Mexico versus the other venues, and much of it has to do with a very small number of girls that deliver world class experiences, mostly as a result of the work I've done to cultivate them as such. But, even then, the GFE experiences in Asia are far superior with respect to intensity compared to Mexico. Why?

For example, in Asia, once the girls focus on a good prospect they stick to you like glue. This whole issue of supply and demand DRIVES the GFE. There are so many more girls, and so few "affluent" mongers, that the girls "act out" their GFE routines with a degree of sincerity, it being literally almost a matter of life and death to them with respect to their own safe existence. That is NOT a factor in Mexico. And, that is a huge factor when comparing what motivates girls in venues other than Mexico. Just as I would not expect to find intense GFE in Germany or Zurick, there does exist a limited abundance in Mexico. It is similiarly true per capita when comparing Mexico to the even greater abundance for GFE in the PI for example.

This "dependent" attitude, and the relative lack of demand, has a natural effect on emotions. If the girls find their sugar daddy, it's much more important to them than will ever be the case in Monterrey or TJ. That's the distinction. And, that's where supply and demand rules the GFE sceanario.

The economic necessities in their lives simply make the girls in venues such as Asia so much more diligent. Fact is, many eventually begin to actually develop an attachment that typically far surpasses the one experienced in Mexico, often to a point of legitimacy, mostly out of life and death desperation more than anything else, but a degree of legitimate attachment none the less.

Intense and legitimate GFE is possible in Mexico, but it's far from the norm. That's why I sympathize when some accuse others of being delusional with respect to GFE in Mexico. I know that it rarely occurs to my standards, and I can certainly understand if they doubt the varacity of claims made on the boards when it does occur. However, in Asia, for example, the abundance of GFE is so prolific, that you almost can not avoid finding it, and with little or NO work in comparison. And that is the reason mongers feel more at ease releasing specific information in other venues, because they know their brand of experience is so easily attainable, and the supply so high, that they will never go a single night without total bliss being the result. In Mexico, you just never really know, do you? Unless, of course, you have your established, trusty stable of girls...

[MonterreyDude]

I don't want to contradict my friend USB.

But SEA is SEA.
Mexico is Mexico.

I stoppes a long time agon comparing Mexico to other places.
Mexico is unique as Brazil is unique and SEA is unique.

I don't care how or what the girls do in SEA, I concentrate my efforts on Monterrey girls.

As a matter of fact most, if not all of the mongers coming to Mty have never or will never visit SEA.

Comparing Mexico to SEA is not even apples and oranges, it doesn't even aply when you don't know what the respective flavors taste like.

And again my friend USB is way above many mongers cause he visits Monterrey almost every month.
He's a familiar face to the local businesses.
(And finally after a long hiatus, the girls again see him as a plausible customer)

Some mongers just come to Monterrey and visit the clubs for a quickie, a one nighter.

For those guys, I preffer for them to get the best of the city.

They will never get what USB gets, hell, what I get from the clubs which is even far superior to what USB gets.

For those guys, that's the idea: we want to help them get the best of the city that one-2 nights they spend here.






Certainly, your assessment of Mexico may be correct with respect to comparing a very small, and relatively insignificant venue with respect to the world as a whole.

One of the reasons I, and others, are sometimes so hard on Mexico, is knowing the potential available in some of the other worldwide venues. I have, for probably at least three years, concluded that my concept of perfection is available in Mexico, but compared to the rest of the world, it is significantly more difficult to achieve the same thing commonly found in such abundance in places other than Mexico.

However, that should not be construed as a slam to Mexico. I am, afterall, concluding that I prefer to play in Mexico versus the other venues, and much of it has to do with a very small number of girls that deliver world class experiences, mostly as a result of the work I've done to cultivate them as such. But, even then, the GFE experiences in Asia are far superior with respect to intensity compared to Mexico. Why?

For example, in Asia, once the girls focus on a good prospect they stick to you like glue. This whole issue of supply and demand DRIVES the GFE. There are so many more girls, and so few "affluent" mongers, that the girls "act out" their GFE routines with a degree of sincerity, it being literally almost a matter of life and death to them with respect to their own safe existence. That is NOT a factor in Mexico. And, that is a huge factor when comparing what motivates girls in venues other than Mexico. Just as I would not expect to find intense GFE in Germany or Zurick, there does exist a limited abundance in Mexico. It is similiarly true per capita when comparing Mexico to the even greater abundance for GFE in the PI for example.

This "dependent" attitude, and the relative lack of demand, has a natural effect on emotions. If the girls find their sugar daddy, it's much more important to them than will ever be the case in Monterrey or TJ. That's the distinction. And, that's where supply and demand rules the GFE sceanario.

The economic necessities in their lives simply make the girls in venues such as Asia so much more diligent. Fact is, many eventually begin to actually develop an attachment that typically far surpasses the one experienced in Mexico, often to a point of legitimacy, mostly out of life and death desperation more than anything else, but a degree of legitimate attachment none the less.

Intense and legitimate GFE is possible in Mexico, but it's far from the norm. That's why I sympathize when some accuse others of being delusional with respect to GFE in Mexico. I know that it rarely occurs to my standards, and I can certainly understand if they doubt the varacity of claims made on the boards when it does occur. However, in Asia, for example, the abundance of GFE is so prolific, that you almost can not avoid finding it, and with little or NO work in comparison. And that is the reason mongers feel more at ease releasing specific information in other venues, because they know their brand of experience is so easily attainable, and the supply so high, that they will never go a single night without total bliss being the result. In Mexico, you just never really know, do you? Unless, of course, you have your established, trusty stable of girls...

[Member #3453]

They will never get what USB gets, hell, what I get from the clubs which is even far superior to what USB gets.

"They will never get what USB gets..."

So True...Pero.

"far superior to what USB gets...????"

Uhhhhhhhcccccccccccccccccccccmmmmmmmmmm!!!! Perdoneme???? Disculpame?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

:-)))

You only "get" more because you are there more. What I get for time spent in comparison is UNfricken believable, and you know it...

Are you offering a challenge?

I know, shall I set sights on the little delgada girl you introduced me to at the "XYZ" place, and told me hands off?????....uhmmmmmmmm :-))) You know the temptation: flaca, curvy, cute, sexy, sleek,...ahhhhhh, she has it all.

Let the contest begin...Afterall, I only have a short window of opportunity compared to the Master so the contest would be fair, no?

I will keep my hands off if you retract that offending last statement that I do not get the same level of action that you get. Go ahead, you can just reword it to save face...:-)))) And, I will leave her alone.

Just kidding with all this...I don't want anybody to misconstrue my attempts at behind the scenes humor with malice aforethought.

I know you realize how fortunate you are, but you don't truly understand or appreciate the "withdrawal" pains associated with living in the US most of the time, and knowing that Monterrey exists, not to mention any of the other unbelievable venues. It is absolute torture on earth.

You, really and truly are fortunate living in Monterrey...

[MonterreyDude]

You can try:

1. I get the girls in 15 minutes and they are loyal as hell to me (unless ElCabron ruins everything with his "share everything" policy... I have to do damage control to what he did today at Prestige).

2. Be my guest. The curvy girl is gone, dunno where. Anyway, all my girls are loyal and they will on the spot tell me if my so called friends, local or monger, want to lay hands on them (as they have already told me).

3. I still insist I get more action than you. More girls than I can shake a stick at them. So many in some places that I just can't go to some clubs (Pasarelas and Bahamas are examples)




"They will never get what USB gets..."

So True...Pero.

"far superior to what USB gets...????"

Uhhhhhhhcccccccccccccccccccccmmmmmmmmmm!!!! Perdoneme???? Disculpame?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

:-)))

You only "get" more because you are there more. What I get for time spent in comparison is UNfricken believable, and you know it...

Are you offering a challenge?

I know, shall I set sights on the little delgada girl you introduced me to at the "XYZ" place, and told me hands off?????....uhmmmmmmmm :-))) You know the temptation: flaca, curvy, cute, sexy, sleek,...ahhhhhh, she has it all.

Let the contest begin...Afterall, I only have a short window of opportunity compared to the Master so the contest would be fair, no?

I will keep my hands off if you retract that offending last statement that I do not get the same level of action that you get. Go ahead, you can just reword it to save face...:-)))) And, I will leave her alone.

Just kidding with all this...I don't want anybody to misconstrue my attempts at behind the scenes humor with malice aforethought.

I know you realize how fortunate you are, but you don't truly understand or appreciate the "withdrawal" pains associated with living in the US most of the time, and knowing that Monterrey exists, not to mention any of the other unbelievable venues. It is absolute torture on earth.

You, really and truly are fortunate living in Monterrey...

[Precocious One]

[QUOTE=Amigomio]I don't want to contradict my friend USB.

But SEA is SEA.
Mexico is Mexico.



I want nothing to do with the SEA girls. It is not even an option for some of us.

I want to fu_k Latinas. Preferably Mexicanas.

In fact, I am going to fu_k me one today. Just like I did yesterday. And the day before. And...

[Precocious One]

You can try:

1. I get the girls in 15 minutes and they are loyal as hell to me (unless ElCabron ruins everything with his "share everything" policy... I have to do damage control to what he did today at Prestige).

2. Be my guest. The curvy girl is gone, dunno where. Anyway, all my girls are loyal and they will on the spot tell me if my so called friends, local or monger, want to lay hands on them (as they have already told me).

3. I still insist I get more action than you. More girls than I can shake a stick at them. So many in some places that I just can't go to some clubs (Pasarelas and Bahamas are examples)


This is an unfair assessment. You LIVE here. You have good money to spend on a WEEKLY basis for the girls. You are a commodity. A monetary commodity. A gringo monger that comes into town for a weekend cannot compare to a wealthy Monterrey resident(unless the gringo looks like Brad Pitt). Also, women here will not readily approach a gringo like TJ because they by and large do not speak English. Most often than not, at the end of the day, it is all about the money. Good sex is a secondary benefit to the girl and I would venture to say that many of the girls see no benefit to the sex at all.

I had noticed when I first started frequenting the MP's here that once the girls knew that I spoke passable Spanish and that I lived here, the GFE(DFK/girl orgasms with me inside of her)was more readily available. At times on the very first session. Many MP girls do not want to put forth the effort for a one shot deal.

They want clients.

Weekly clients.

Wealthy clean-cut clients that treat and pay them well.


The majority of the girls here could give a rat's a_s about a guy that rolls into town once every six months unless he spends an exorbitant amount of money on her.

Try asking your girls if they will take a "pay cut($50 a session/2 hours)" with you. More than likely, you will be left holding a twig as opposed to a stick.

I do not try to disillusion myself or other mongers that read this forum about the girls here in Monterrey. By and large, it's all about the Benjamins. Always has been and always will be. If a monger here(Mexican or American) was a real "ladies man", that monger would be scoring indepedently wealthy CDV women for free or getting paid to fu_k them.

And I can guarantee that those guys do exist here in Monterrey.

They just elect not to come onto an anonymous sex site and brag about it.

[MonterreyDude]

ElCabron has ruined my relationship with one girl at Infinito... which at the end turned out for best.
And one of the new girls that sat with me, he took care of making her run away as fast as you can think.




Tell us...what exactly did El Cabron pull at Prestige? Inquiring minds want to know. Just use synonyms. I will figure it out. Better yet, perhaps we should hear your version, and his rebuttal, I mean confession. :-)

[MonterreyDude]

Well Precocious, USB did ask.

I just answered.

And sir, you are right on all angles.
And you know, specially you, that I never brag on those lines.




This is an unfair assessment. You LIVE here. You have good money to spend on a WEEKLY basis for the girls. You are a commodity. A monetary commodity. A gringo monger that comes into town for a weekend cannot compare to a wealthy Monterrey resident(unless the gringo looks like Brad Pitt). Also, women here will not readily approach a gringo like TJ because they by and large do not speak English. Most often than not, at the end of the day, it is all about the money. Good sex is a secondary benefit to the girl and I would venture to say that many of the girls see no benefit to the sex at all.

I had noticed when I first started frequenting the MP's here that once the girls knew that I spoke passable Spanish and that I lived here, the GFE(DFK/girl orgasms with me inside of her)was more readily available. At times on the very first session. Many MP girls do not want to put forth the effort for a one shot deal.

They want clients.

Weekly clients.

Wealthy clean-cut clients that treat and pay them well.


The majority of the girls here could give a rat's a_s about a guy that rolls into town once every six months unless he spends an exorbitant amount of money on her.

Try asking your girls if they will take a "pay cut($50 a session/2 hours)" with you. More than likely, you will be left holding a twig as opposed to a stick.

I do not try to disillusion myself or other mongers that read this forum about the girls here in Monterrey. By and large, it's all about the Benjamins. Always has been and always will be. If a monger here(Mexican or American) was a real "ladies man", that monger would be scoring indepedently wealthy CDV women for free or getting paid to fu_k them.

And I can guarantee that those guys do exist here in Monterrey.

They just elect not to come onto an anonymous sex site and brag about it.

[El Cabron 007]

It wasn't me. I did not do it.

What I can not figure out is why those girls are shaking when they come to set with me. ... they then surrender and afterwards rush to the bathroom and change their underwear. hmmm ...


ElCabron has ruined my relationship with one girl at Infinito... which at the end turned out for best.
And one of the new girls that sat with me, he took care of making her run away as fast as you can think.

[Jay L Jay]

I will be visting San Luis Potosi and Reynosa on business. Can anyone tell me what places I can visit to have a good time? places that have hot girls?

[MonterreyDude]

Jay,

Reynosa belongs to the South Texas Border Towns Thread
They got tons of info on Reynosa, and I think San Luis Potosi belongs to the Central Mexico Thread.

Anyway, I can tell you San Luis is a nice town, but boring as hell.
They have a couple of clubs, expensive clubs, almost as expensive as the ones in the US without the quality in instalations.




I will be visting San Luis Potosi and Reynosa on business. Can anyone tell me what places I can visit to have a good time? places that have hot girls?

[Precocious One]

sessioned with a new girl at d'angy yesterday. twenty-seven years old. three days on the job. very attractive. this is a $40/40 minute place. she permitted the dfk and a complete sweat-drenched session. took the full 40 with a cof ending. she was easily a seven and her service was an eight(she would not permit herself to orgasm with me nor would provide ball-washing).

this level of girl was not available just two short months ago for this type of pricing. due to the economy, her regular job at a legitimate health spa(massage therapists) was terminated. she told me that she needs the money.

if an american monger can afford to take six months off, now is the most opportune time to do so. i am currently seeing some discounting that is similar to what transpired during the intense 1990's socal recession($2.00 beers/$5.00 table dances in the greater la region). and with the current 13-1 exchange rate, one can also enjoy an additional 20 percent discount from previous, historical peso/dollar currency rates.

yesterday, with my customary $20 propina, i fuc_ed for about u.s. $45.00. it was such a great deal, i fuc_ed twice yesterday(one of my favoritas).

forty-five dollars for a strong seven whom provided an eight service. if i did not give the propina, it would have been u.s. $30.00.

incredible. just incredible.

[Sean Juan]

Hey guys,

I just popped into town and am ready to start making the rounds. I know that Sundays are pretty crappy at the S/C's, but is there any one better than the other on Sundays?

[MonterreyDude]

Sean, your post was moderated to late.
Precocious would have surely recomended Marsella.

www.pompis.com.mx

But it is true, Sundays MP's are D E A D




Hey guys,

I just popped into town and am ready to start making the rounds. I know that Sundays are pretty crappy at the S/C's, but is there any one better than the other on Sundays?

[Sean Juan]

Sean, your post was moderated to late.
Precocious would have surely recomended Marsella.

www.pompis.com.mx

But it is true, Sundays MP's are D E A DNo hay problema. I'm not really an MP kind of guy anyway although I did pay Marcella and Romanos a visit on my last trip. I ended up heading to Pasareles(sp?) and found un poco diversion. :) It was pretty dead though, and I expected that. But I wasn't going to sit in my hotel room all night! Just got back from Infinito tonight, and I was surprised how busy it was for a Monday. And as always had a great time. Your map is like a lifeline for us mongers here in Monterrey and everyone that frequents this forum is truly in debt to you. I'm looking forward to the day that our paths may cross, so I can thank you properly. You are the man.

[MonterreyDude]

Doubt98 was here with us in Monterrey.

Had a couple of very intresting lunches at Prestige Monday and Tuesday.

Sorry we missed you Sean.




No hay problema. I'm not really an MP kind of guy anyway although I did pay Marcella and Romanos a visit on my last trip. I ended up heading to Pasareles(sp?) and found un poco diversion. :) It was pretty dead though, and I expected that. But I wasn't going to sit in my hotel room all night! Just got back from Infinito tonight, and I was surprised how busy it was for a Monday. And as always had a great time. Your map is like a lifeline for us mongers here in Monterrey and everyone that frequents this forum is truly in debt to you. I'm looking forward to the day that our paths may cross, so I can thank you properly. You are the man.

[Sean Juan]

Doubt98 was here with us in Monterrey.

Had a couple of very intresting lunches at Prestige Monday and Tuesday.

Sorry we missed you Sean.AmigoMio,

I am still in town until Friday. I am getting ready to head back out tonight. I'm not sure what your schedule allows for, but I should have tomorrow night free and all day Friday until my flight leaves @ 4:10pm. Would love to meet up with you if possible. But if not this trip, then certainly the next.

SJ

[MonterreyDude]

Sean J.

Unfortunalty, I can not PM you so we can meet somewhere.




AmigoMio,

I am still in town until Friday. I am getting ready to head back out tonight. I'm not sure what your schedule allows for, but I should have tomorrow night free and all day Friday until my flight leaves @ 4:10pm. Would love to meet up with you if possible. But if not this trip, then certainly the next.

SJ

[Sean Juan]

Sean J.

Unfortunalty, I can not PM you so we can meet somewhere.Am,

Sorry I did not take that into consideration. I guess my mind was thinking about all of the fun possiblities! : o)

I will definitely ensure that I rectify that situation prior to my next visit.

On a side note, last night I went back to Pasareles and had the worst experience ever here in Monterrey. I have nixed it from my list of places to frequent. I have yet to make it to Prestige due to my work schedule and the recommendations of not patroning after 5pm. I will be sure to build some extra time into my next trip so we can possibly meet there during the lunch shift. ; o)

Thanks again for everything, and I look forward to meeting you next time.

SJ

[MonterreyDude]

May I ask what happend at Pasarelas?

I am not visiting that club right now cause my girls are at Casino right now.

What hppened???




Am,

Sorry I did not take that into consideration. I guess my mind was thinking about all of the fun possiblities! : o)

I will definitely ensure that I rectify that situation prior to my next visit.

On a side note, last night I went back to Pasareles and had the worst experience ever here in Monterrey. I have nixed it from my list of places to frequent. I have yet to make it to Prestige due to my work schedule and the recommendations of not patroning after 5pm. I will be sure to build some extra time into my next trip so we can possibly meet there during the lunch shift. ; o)

Thanks again for everything, and I look forward to meeting you next time.

SJ

[Precocious One]

Am,

Sorry I did not take that into consideration. I guess my mind was thinking about all of the fun possiblities! : o)

I will definitely ensure that I rectify that situation prior to my next visit.

On a side note, last night I went back to Pasareles and had the worst experience ever here in Monterrey. I have nixed it from my list of places to frequent. I have yet to make it to Prestige due to my work schedule and the recommendations of not patroning after 5pm. I will be sure to build some extra time into my next trip so we can possibly meet there during the lunch shift. ; o)

Thanks again for everything, and I look forward to meeting you next time.

SJ


I do not recommend Pasarelas or Harem to a visiting monger that does not speak passable Spanish. These girls are generally less available for sex than the girls at Infinito, Matahuala, Tangalay, Cielo, etc. The whole premise of the aforementioned clubs is to sell drinks. Expensive drinks. The girls here make their salary off the fichas they sell and do not necessarily need to go "arriba" unless they want to. After spending $100.00 in Jarras and an hour of your time, you may then come to the most likely conlclusion that you just paid good money for low-end counseling and remedial spanish lessons.

Also, some of these girls have really big egos. I try to avoid this type of girl when living in Monterrey. I will take a six, seven or an eight that gives me a ten-level service over a nine or a ten that gives me a six-level service. There is absoutely nothing better than making out with a girl and washing her body while taking a shower after you just finished off with a 40+minute, sweat-drenched sex session. I never, ever talk to nine or ten's. Ever. M/P or S/C's. These girls are generally a waste of my time and money. I always look for the girl with some sort of flaw(slightly-overweight, small breasts, scar, attractive but not overly pretty,etc.).

Remember, now more so than ever, there are incredible values in MX. There is absolutely no reason to be getting ripped off in the current economic climate.

Your money is very valued right now. Do not think otherwise.

[MonterreyDude]

Precocious, you are now entering my domains.

Pasarelas has been a favorite among Americans visiting Monterrey.
Funny part is I don't know if they go there because of this or another forum, but I've seen plenty of visitors there, including Koreans, and Japanese.
It even caters to lady customers seeking bi girls.

I must contradict you, cause Pasarelas girls are available for FS.
It is a rare instance where they don't want to go.

I do more or less agree with you on Harem.
Girls there are so into their business that you must have money coming out of your pant zipper to really atract their attention.

But they also go for FS.

Must be the language barrier, but other than that, club girls are easy.




I do not recommend Pasarelas or Harem to a visiting monger that does not speak passable Spanish. These girls are generally less available for sex than the girls at Infinito, Matahuala, Tangalay, Cielo, etc. The whole premise of the aforementioned clubs is to sell drinks. Expensive drinks. The girls here make their salary off the fichas they sell and do not necessarily need to go "arriba" unless they want to. After spending $100.00 in Jarras and an hour of your time, you may then come to the most likely conlclusion that you just paid good money for low-end counseling and remedial spanish lessons.

Also, some of these girls have really big egos. I try to avoid this type of girl when living in Monterrey. I will take a six, seven or an eight that gives me a ten-level service over a nine or a ten that gives me a six-level service. There is absoutely nothing better than making out with a girl and washing her body while taking a shower after you just finished off with a 40+minute, sweat-drenched sex session. I never, ever talk to nine or ten's. Ever. M/P or S/C's. These girls are generally a waste of my time and money. I always look for the girl with some sort of flaw(slightly-overweight, small breasts, scar, attractive but not overly pretty,etc.).

Remember, now more so than ever, there are incredible values in MX. There is absolutely no reason to be getting ripped off in the current economic climate.

Your money is very valued right now. Do not think otherwise.

[Precocious One]

Precocious, you are now entering my domains.

Pasarelas has been a favorite among Americans visiting Monterrey.
Funny part is I don't know if they go there because of this or another forum, but I've seen plenty of visitors there, including Koreans, and Japanese.
It even caters to lady customers seeking bi girls.

I must contradict you, cause Pasarelas girls are available for FS.
It is a rare instance where they don't want to go.

I do more or less agree with you on Harem.
Girls there are so into their business that you must have money coming out of your pant zipper to really atract their attention.

But they also go for FS.

Must be the language barrier, but other than that, club girls are easy.

Yes, both Pasarelas and Harem do go for the P4P but it is not as readily-available as the other clubs. These girls would rather sell drinks. If a monger is visiting here, he is better off with the other strip clubs. I had a favorita at Pasarelas last year and I do not recommend both of these places(Harem) for P4P if a monger does not live here, speak passabe Spanish or is not somewhat physically attractive. These places can end up being very expensive with no guarantee of sex.

If a visiting or resident monger is looking for uncomplicated and unencumbered sex in Monterrey, the MP's, Infinito, Givenchy, Cielo, Tangalay, etc. offer the best opportunity. I have lived here twice and I unequivocally recommend the mid-level MP's over the S/C's. However, if a monger is old, unattractive, overweight or unappealing, he probably will not have much success with GFE in the MP's and is better off with the S/C's where his charm and personality can possibly compensate for the indiffferences.

I like the mid-range MP's. It is not right or wrong. It is just what is right for me economically, physically and emotionally.

[MonterreyDude]

Precocious, my friend, believe me, FS sex is available at all clubs on Madero Ave.

It's just that maybe you are used to Infinito style.
At the Madero Ave clubs you just don't go in and ask for a FS. There is a protocol to follow.
Girls do get feisty if you cut the chase.

And yes, I agree.
Villagran St. clubs like Infinito and Tangalay are incredible options.

Givenchy, for the moment has been closed.
A very bad tragedy happened there last Tuesday.




Yes, both Pasarelas and Harem do go for the P4P but it is not as readily-available as the other clubs. These girls would rather sell drinks. If a monger is visiting here, he is better off with the other strip clubs. I had a favorita at Pasarelas last year and I do not recommend both of these places(Harem) for P4P if a monger does not live here, speak passabe Spanish or is not somewhat physically attractive. These places can end up being very expensive with no guarantee of sex.

If a visiting or resident monger is looking for uncomplicated and unencumbered sex in Monterrey, the MP's, Infinito, Givenchy, Cielo, Tangalay, etc. offer the best opportunity. I have lived here twice and I unequivocally recommend the mid-level MP's over the S/C's. However, if a monger is old, unattractive, overweight or unappealing, he probably will not have much success with GFE in the MP's and is better off with the S/C's where his charm and personality can possibly compensate for the indiffferences.

I like the mid-range MP's. It is not right or wrong. It is just what is right for me economically, physically and emotionally.

[Sean Juan]

May I ask what happend at Pasarelas?

I am not visiting that club right now cause my girls are at Casino right now.

What hppened???Am/PCO,

To expound on my Pasareles comment, first I should premise by stating that I do speak passable Spanish (although not perfect) and am considered an attractive (although not modelesque by any means) mid-30's guy. Part of my problem was that I had already been to Pasareles a few days prior and taken a girl out on salida. I knew this could possibly present an issue. We had a great GFE session on that day, but we just didn't really click outside of the sex due to personality deficiencies, age difference, etc. (at least from my perspective). So upon my return to Pasareles, this same girl swarms all over me as I walk in the door. I somewhat expected that, and I invited her to a drink out of politeness and courtesy. There was another girl there who had caught my eye, so after shooting the doo doo with Girl #1 for about 20 minutes, I politely explained to her that for the moment I simply wanted to sit alone and enjoy the show. She was disappointed but then left. After a brief interval, I approached Girl #2. We talked for a bit before heading to the privado area so I could inspect the goods. She gave me a pretty lackluster dance, but she was very hot so I kind of brushed it off. We returned to my table only to have Girl #1 sit like two chairs away and constantly stare at me while with girl #2. I bought girl #2 a couple of more drinks before proposing the salida which she then declined. I was shocked actually. She said that she NEVER went on salida. So I said ok, thanked her for her time, and sent her on her way. Then girl #1 came back over and sat down next to me again giggling and teasing me that girl #2 didn't want to go out with me. I acted like I didn't understand what she was telling me and then called the waiter to bring me over another girl that was dancing onstage at that time. He went and told her but she never did come over because a group of local guys were cockblocking her. I ended up needing to get ugly with girl #1 and asked the waiter to please tell her in the most polite way as possible to please not come back to my table that night. And in the end, because of the rain and the cartel incident from the previous day, I didn't feel like starting over at a different club. I ended up settling for this girl who seemed passable on the surface, so we ended up leaving together. When we got to the hotel, however, she was totally lifeless. It was like banging a corpse except that if she didn't have her eyes closed, all she could do was laugh. It was quite irritating actually, and after unsuccessfully trying to improve the ambiance, even though I had her for two hours and it had been less than 30 minutes of being together, I sent her on her way without busting one. So I was definitely an unhappy camper. It was the most I had spent in one place through drinks, dances, and salida combined with zero to show for it. Anyway, it was partly my fault but as I stated, due to the previous day's activities I didn't feel comfortable bouncing around to clubs that I did not already know or was at least somehow known by the club itself. I ended up going back to my hotel quite preturbed. This all happened on Wednesday night. So on Thursday, I made plans with my favorita who does not work at Pasareles to ensure that my return to the States on Friday was not on a sour note. And as usual, she did not disappoint. And that is pretty much it in a nutshell! It seems that you need to have a wingman if you are returning to a club where you have already sampled from the menu to help combat these incidents. But anyway, it is what it is and certainly not my first disappointing mongering experience and more than likely will not be my last. As you recall, I had an uneventful encounter with the escort "Plata" on my previous excursion albeit way better than this one. The whole night just left a really bad taste in my mouth.

SJ

[MonterreyDude]

Sean, you really need to become a full member.

We must get together and talk.

I think you are like my good friend USB: a magnet for divas. Good girls that are good acts, but bad acts when horizontal.

Sometimes Sean you have to be HARD on the girls.
Like telling them "you better be good... you better deliver", like make them know, you know.
That you are not the newbie tourist around Monterrey.

That you have other options if you dislike the girl, that you can find better if she is not even better.

And so on....

We need to talk.



Am/PCO,

To expound on my Pasareles comment, first I should premise by stating that I do speak passable Spanish (although not perfect) and am considered an attractive (although not modelesque by any means) mid-30's guy. Part of my problem was that I had already been to Pasareles a few days prior and taken a girl out on salida. I knew this could possibly present an issue. We had a great GFE session on that day, but we just didn't really click outside of the sex due to personality deficiencies, age difference, etc. (at least from my perspective). So upon my return to Pasareles, this same girl swarms all over me as I walk in the door. I somewhat expected that, and I invited her to a drink out of politeness and courtesy. There was another girl there who had caught my eye, so after shooting the doo doo with Girl #1 for about 20 minutes, I politely explained to her that for the moment I simply wanted to sit alone and enjoy the show. She was disappointed but then left. After a brief interval, I approached Girl #2. We talked for a bit before heading to the privado area so I could inspect the goods. She gave me a pretty lackluster dance, but she was very hot so I kind of brushed it off. We returned to my table only to have Girl #1 sit like two chairs away and constantly stare at me while with girl #2. I bought girl #2 a couple of more drinks before proposing the salida which she then declined. I was shocked actually. She said that she NEVER went on salida. So I said ok, thanked her for her time, and sent her on her way. Then girl #1 came back over and sat down next to me again giggling and teasing me that girl #2 didn't want to go out with me. I acted like I didn't understand what she was telling me and then called the waiter to bring me over another girl that was dancing onstage at that time. He went and told her but she never did come over because a group of local guys were cockblocking her. I ended up needing to get ugly with girl #1 and asked the waiter to please tell her in the most polite way as possible to please not come back to my table that night. And in the end, because of the rain and the cartel incident from the previous day, I didn't feel like starting over at a different club. I ended up settling for this girl who seemed passable on the surface, so we ended up leaving together. When we got to the hotel, however, she was totally lifeless. It was like banging a corpse except that if she didn't have her eyes closed, all she could do was laugh. It was quite irritating actually, and after unsuccessfully trying to improve the ambiance, even though I had her for two hours and it had been less than 30 minutes of being together, I sent her on her way without busting one. So I was definitely an unhappy camper. It was the most I had spent in one place through drinks, dances, and salida combined with zero to show for it. Anyway, it was partly my fault but as I stated, due to the previous day's activities I didn't feel comfortable bouncing around to clubs that I did not already know or was at least somehow known by the club itself. I ended up going back to my hotel quite preturbed. This all happened on Wednesday night. So on Thursday, I made plans with my favorita who does not work at Pasareles to ensure that my return to the States on Friday was not on a sour note. And as usual, she did not disappoint. And that is pretty much it in a nutshell! It seems that you need to have a wingman if you are returning to a club where you have already sampled from the menu to help combat these incidents. But anyway, it is what it is and certainly not my first disappointing mongering experience and more than likely will not be my last. As you recall, I had an uneventful encounter with the escort "Plata" on my previous excursion albeit way better than this one. The whole night just left a really bad taste in my mouth.

SJ

[Precocious One]

Sean Juan-


Your experience is the exact reason why I do not do the S/C's. Once you hang out with a girl they can make you feel obligated to buy them drinks every time you see them again. It can become very expensive if you have a problem saying no.

I would venture to say that with the salida fee to the house, fichas, hotel($20/2 hours) and the cost to the girl you were out close to $230.00.

$230.00.

That will get me almost four sessions at my preferred MP's with no hassles.

[Precocious One]

Sean, you really need to become a full member.

We must get together and talk.

I think you are like my good friend USB: a magnet for divas. Good girls that are good acts, but bad acts when horizontal.

Sometimes Sean you have to be HARD on the girls.
Like telling them "you better be good... you better deliver", like make them know, you know.
That you are not the newbie tourist around Monterrey.

That you have other options if you dislike the girl, that you can find better if she is not even better.

And so on....

We need to talk.


Most of these girls could give a rat's a_s about Sean Juan or any other American monger visiting Monterrey.

He will never become a WEEKLY client who can help pay her WEEKLY expenses. There is no chance of him becoming a client which is what all these girls are looking for.

Weekly clients.

It takes a lot for a girl to give GFE(permitting themselves to orgasm while you are inside of them). Most girls(especially the younger ones) will not allow themselves to offer this to one-time customers. I have had to session with girls two or three times before they allow themselves to GFE with me and that is even with them knowing that I live here and have the potential of becoming a weekly client. Also, if the girl does not want to deliver(GFE) she's not going to.

As for being a magnet for divas, all you need is a money clip and a good dose of gullibility.

Are you at liberty to publically elaborate on the Givenchy incident? If not, can you PM me with the details? Something of this nature is probably very infomative to mongers both here in Monterey and elsewhere.

[MonterreyDude]

Your apreciation of the girl/club routine is wrong Precocious.

It depends on the individual, the girl, the club, the time of day... etc.
I have seen girls go for free with many, not only Mexicans, but Americans too.

And Sean is a regular visitor to Monterrey.
He knows his way around without anyones help. He just needs to fine tune his way around.

And Givenchy: On Tuesday last, before midnight, a battle royal erupted within the premises, leaving 3 people dead.
Seems some drunks got in a fight with several others at another bar and all parties involved bumped into each other at Givenchy.

And that's where it ended in tragedy.
Givenchy is closed right now.
Dunno when it will open.


Most of these girls could give a rat's a_s about Sean Juan or any other American monger visiting Monterrey.

He will never become a WEEKLY client who can help pay her WEEKLY expenses. There is no chance of him becoming a client which is what all these girls are looking for.

Weekly clients.

It takes a lot for a girl to give GFE(permitting themselves to orgasm while you are inside of them). Most girls(especially the younger ones) will not allow themselves to offer this to one-time customers. I have had to session with girls two or three times before they allow themselves to GFE with me and that is even with them knowing that I live here and have the potential of becoming a weekly client. Also, if the girl does not want to deliver(GFE) she's not going to.

As for being a magnet for divas, all you need is a money clip and a good dose of gullibility.

Are you at liberty to publically elaborate on the Givenchy incident? If not, can you PM me with the details? Something of this nature is probably very infomative to mongers both here in Monterey and elsewhere.

[Precocious One]

Your apreciation of the girl/club routine is wrong Precocious.

It depends on the individual, the girl, the club, the time of day... etc.
I have seen girls go for free with many, not only Mexicans, but Americans too.

And Sean is a regular visitor to Monterrey.
He knows his way around without anyones help. He just needs to fine tune his way around.

And Givenchy: On Tuesday last, before midnight, a battle royal erupted within the premises, leaving 3 people dead.
Seems some drunks got in a fight with several others at another bar and all parties involved bumped into each other at Givenchy.

And that's where it ended in tragedy.
Givenchy is closed right now.
Dunno when it will open.


Thanks for the update on Givenchy. I would venture to say that in all your years here in Monterrey, that is the first time something of this magnitude(multiple homicides) has happened in one of the S/C's.

Maybe I am being presumptuous, but it is possible that one can expect an increase in this type behaviour in the very near future both in MX and the U.S.

I don't have the link, but it has been empirically proven that for every one percent increase in the foreclosure rate there is a two percent increase in the crime rate.

[Doubt98]

Was the violence at Givenchy with knives or guns? Were there bystanders killed or was it the offending parties killing each other?

[MonterreyDude]

Bystanders were not killed.
They were army men on R&R.
Generaly they are unwanted on bars, precisely cause they are always game for fights.

This time they found people that were not afraid to fight back.



Was the violence at Givenchy with knives or guns? Were there bystanders killed or was it the offending parties killing each other?

[Bustaload]

Guys,

I'm heading to Monterreyfor a week before a week in Guad. Can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. Is there some place to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish and staying safe? What about the street walker scene? I'll be staying at the Crown Plaza and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?

Help me out guys.

[MonterreyDude]

Hello Bust

Crowne Plaza area is 10 minutes away from the mayority of the club scene.
Around your hotel you have a couple of expensive clubs like Spugna and Reno, but boasting 5 star quality, but at the same time expensive and not worth it.

Streetwalker scene.
Not recomended, not close to the hotel. They are totally displaced by what you can find at MPs and SCs.
Besides, the Crowne Plaza does not allow female visitors to the rooms.
(Club girls, hookers, SWs and be spot a mile away by security personel).

And about being safe in Monterrey.
If you read the posts in this thread, you'll notice we will get into a lot of subjects, but no one has ever mentioned getting into trouble while staying here and visiting the clubs.
At the most, the old switching the bill around is the most you have to worry about.

Check my SupeGoogle Monterrey Map, cause I think you have no idea of the size of Monterrey.

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=708045

It includes hotels, shopping malls, movie plexes, and of course, MPs, SCs...


Check it out and ask your questions.



Guys,

I'm heading to Monterreyfor a week before a week in Guad. Can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. Is there some place to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish and staying safe? What about the street walker scene? I'll be staying at the Crown Plaza and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?

Help me out guys.

[Member #3453]

The streetwalker scene is the least safe...And, you have about a 50% chance of hooking up with a "lady-boy," as they call them in Asia. In Asia, the lady-boys can at least pass for women, sometimes better looking at first glance than the actual women. But, in Monterrey, their "true" gender becomes obvious pretty quickly. But, why waste your time on the streets dealing with all that nonsense?

Uhmmm, speak no Spanish? Well, that does complicate matters a little. Plan everything out in advance, stick to the medium level bars recommended by Amigomio, and take his map with you wherever you go. Remember to take your hotel information with you so you can make it back without too much confusion with the taxi drivers. DO NOT let the taxi drivers take you somewhere you do not tell them to go, such as the high end, commission paying, bars. They will sometimes tell you they're taking you one place, and drop you off somewhere else where they earn commissions by bringing you there.

I would probably suggest Casino, Pasarelas, and Harem, in that order. They are all along Madero Avenue and all within five to ten miles of each other. You can partake in the full range of services on site, and in a more comfortable, all be it slightly more expensive setting, maybe only 20-30% more cost in the long run compared to the lower end bars.

Be prepared to spend a little on drinks, maybe 2, 3, 4, 5 drinks at most, $12 a drink, then maybe enjoy some private time in the privados for about $10 for a private dance, or you can even go upstairs for about $85-$110 for forty five minutes to an hour of full service action.

The lower end bars do not typically have girls that speak English, and it's a little more difficult to pick up on the routine than to relax in a medium level bar, where you are more likely to have some English speaking waiters, and maybe one or two English Speaking Girls to translate, to explain the options. Plus the clients in the medium level bars are a notch up from the lower end bars, less rowdy, maybe a little safer.

Of course, you must always watch out for the larceny perpetrated by the waiters, just annoying things, bill switches, wrong change, etc...The medium level bars are notorious for that, and they are even worse than the lower end bars for that sort of thing...


Guys,

I'm heading to Monterreyfor a week before a week in Guad. Can someone give me some direction on the scene there for a guy who speaks no spanish at all. Is there some place to go to get some good spanish pussy without speaking spanish and staying safe? What about the street walker scene? I'll be staying at the Crown Plaza and was wondering if there were girls to be had within walking distance to the hotel?

Help me out guys.

[MonterreyDude]

Let me do some price corection on USB's privado quotes:

Plain dances in a private booth go for: one for 50 pesos, or they make you take 2 for 100 pesos, depending on the club (our volatile exchange rate or recent days makes me post the price in pesos).

Private semi-rooms go for 550-600 pesos for 15 minutes and 1200 pesos for 30 minutes.

Bust: I will clarify on the SW scene, that you will find none around the hotel district where you will stay. The female SWs are around Reforma St and Colon St and work on broad daylight and pack up and go home at night.




The streetwalker scene is the least safe...And, you have about a 50% chance of hooking up with a "lady-boy," as they call them in Asia. In Asia, the lady-boys can at least pass for women, sometimes better looking at first glance than the actual women. But, in Monterrey, their "true" gender becomes obvious pretty quickly. But, why waste your time on the streets dealing with all that nonsense?

Uhmmm, speak no Spanish? Well, that does complicate matters a little. Plan everything out in advance, stick to the medium level bars recommended by Amigomio, and take his map with you wherever you go. Remember to take your hotel information with you so you can make it back without too much confusion with the taxi drivers. DO NOT let the taxi drivers take you somewhere you do not tell them to go, such as the high end, commission paying, bars. They will sometimes tell you they're taking you one place, and drop you off somewhere else where they earn commissions by bringing you there.

I would probably suggest Casino, Pasarelas, and Harem, in that order. They are all along Madero Avenue and all within five to ten miles of each other. You can partake in the full range of services on site, and in a more comfortable, all be it slightly more expensive setting, maybe only 20-30% more cost in the long run compared to the lower end bars.

Be prepared to spend a little on drinks, maybe 2, 3, 4, 5 drinks at most, $12 a drink, then maybe enjoy some private time in the privados for about $10 for a private dance, or you can even go upstairs for about $85-$110 for forty five minutes to an hour of full service action.

The lower end bars do not typically have girls that speak English, and it's a little more difficult to pick up on the routine than to relax in a medium level bar, where you are more likely to have some English speaking waiters, and maybe one or two English Speaking Girls to translate, to explain the options. Plus the clients in the medium level bars are a notch up from the lower end bars, less rowdy, maybe a little safer.

Of course, you must always watch out for the larceny perpetrated by the waiters, just annoying things, bill switches, wrong change, etc...The medium level bars are notorious for that, and they are even worse than the lower end bars for that sort of thing...

[Precocious One]

Let me do some price corection on USB's privado quotes:

Plain dances in a private booth go for: one for 50 pesos, or they make you take 2 for 100 pesos, depending on the club (our volatile exchange rate or recent days makes me post the price in pesos).

Private semi-rooms go for 550-600 pesos for 15 minutes and 1200 pesos for 30 minutes.

Bust: I will clarify on the SW scene, that you will find none around the hotel district where you will stay. The female SWs are around Reforma St and Colon St and work on broad daylight and pack up and go home at night.



There is a dance club on the other side of Reforma(North) very close to Villagran next to two hotels. Sometimes, girls will stand outside of the hotel and offer themselves for $25-40 on Friday and Saturday nights. There are 5's and 7's and most under 25 years old.

I do not believe that these girls have health cards. They appear to be opportunistic when in need of money.

[Victor Lazlo]

Bust: I will clarify on the SW scene, that you will find none around the hotel district where you will stay. The female SWs are around Reforma St and Colon St and work on broad daylight and pack up and go home at night.Well, I wouldn't quite say none. Two nights ago I was propositioned by a young lady right outside the Sheraton Ambassador on Hidalgo. They may not be swarming the area, but there are at least a few around, it seems.

[Member #3453]

Actually, I was propositioned by one here in Monterrey myself, right here immediately outside the lobby of the Sheraton Ambassador only a couple of months ago. I would not really call her a street walker.

She was not soliciting vehicles like you find in the US, but working the guys standing around as she walked from hotel to hotel. She approached me right where the cars pull into the carport area at the Sheraton, struck up a conversation, and asked if I was looking for some company, etc...

I told her that I was busy, that I was familiar with Monterrey, and that I know quite a few girls already. She was a MILF type, much more seasoned than the 18 year old girls I am used to. Fact is, compared to most of the girls I see, she was simply not doable, not even in the least, not even in my most desperate moments :-)))

I decided that I would have a little fun with her after I dropped a few of the lower end club names, and she proceeded to tell me how dangerous they are, etc...attempting to scare the Gringo traveler into a night of "bliss" with the likes of her delights. I was cordule, polite...but was a little aggravated that she was trying to scare me away from the clubs. I guess it's probably her marketing plan.

I proceeded to tell her that I've been coming to Monterrey for many years, that I frequent those clubs regularly, and that they are all perfectly safe...She began to talk about the girls, diseased, ugly, criminalistic, etc...

I told her that all of my girlfriends are total angels in almost every respect...

Who would have ever guessed that a few months later, there would be a triple homicide taking place at Givenchi?

So, I guess there are girls (MILFS) working the hotels, and the sidewalks, but I wouldn't classify them as typical streetwalkers, USA style...And, to add insult to injury, I would not classify the one I ran into as "eligible" to compete with even the least of the lower end club girls, much less the Divas we routinely have access to in the clubs.

I'm sure streetwalkers exist in Monterrey. But, it's just that I have never really seen them working the streets like you see them working the streets in the USA, with the exception of the areas Amigomio mentioned.

They are perhaps much more subtle about it, just as the MILF was quite subtle in her approach. Subtle, but also bold...walking right up to me at the Sheraton, in plain view of Security there, the guests, well lit area, etc...but, being very low key.

The only place I have really seen them working the streets USA style is along Colon, in the areas Amigomio referred to, and along certain parts of Madero down in the area of Harem, and sometimes a block or two to the South of Harem, parallel to Madero. And, mostly in that area, Trannies...YIKES!!! :-)


Well, I wouldn't quite say none. Two nights ago I was propositioned by a young lady right outside the Sheraton Ambassador on Hidalgo. They may not be swarming the area, but there are at least a few around, it seems.

[MonterreyDude]

Victor, Bar Cicceros right across the Sheraton is a pickup bar for Pros and Non Pros.
Mostly more to the veteran, seasoned pro side like USB says, MILF's.
Might have been looking for extras at the Sheraton entrance. You might have bumped into her.
Or maybe one of the girls working at Maxims, right in midway between the Sheraton and the Radisson Ancira.

But no, one SG does not make a swarm.
Must have been your lucky day bumping into USB's girl.
Maybe you might have bumped into USB too (he does not solicit).

And there is one thing you have to consider Victor: Street walkers in Mexico are not like the girls walking at the border towns.
Street walkers here are truely the bottom of the barrel of the girls doing the Oldest Profession.
I avoid them like the plague.
Mostly, many of them are way past their "nice" years, older than the average club girl.
Of course you risk asking for trouble, cause many are thieves, no health checks, some are dangerous, crack *****s like the ones in the US.

I don't know what you bumped into, but I would NOT recomend them at all.
Much less get them inside the Sheraton, one of the last girl-friendly hotels in Monterrey.
And they HAVE to work the Sheraton, it's the only 5 star hotel that allows the guests to bring up a girl to the room via the front door.

PS: Guys reading this post, FYI, The Radisson Ancira I mention... impossible to bring a girl up to your room. Security is placed right where the elevators are. Local news once had a piece, of how the local escort services used to sidestep security, by going in the back way, via the kitchen, up the service elevator, spreading money around... no more.







Well, I wouldn't quite say none. Two nights ago I was propositioned by a young lady right outside the Sheraton Ambassador on Hidalgo. They may not be swarming the area, but there are at least a few around, it seems.

[Ssmc2]

No posts in 20 days? What's the story?

[MonterreyDude]

Nobody from here's been down here, or if they have, they haven't posted anything.

Altough I have seen Americans at Infinito in the past weeks.

Heard one of them say it was their first time in Monterrey, but, first timers going straight to Infinito?
No one goes to Infinito without firsthand info, so maybe he must have gotten it from here, cause locals will not recomend the place.



No posts in 20 days? What's the story?

[Doubt98]

Ok, I'll post. I was in Monterrey a couple of months ago and always love Infinito and the surrounding clubs. This time I ventured further South and went in La Cava. It is on the same side of the street as Infinito and a block down. It was a decent club for the area. The manager's name is Balboa, as in the Rocky movies is what he said. He is an American who used to manage the bar Pimp Daddy's in Nuevo Laredo. I've never heard of it so if one of you have I'd like to know what it was like.

They don't have the line up that Infinito does. But the nights I went in there were few good ones to choose from. It's the same prices as all the other clubs along the strip.

Here I was impressed with the service. I ordered a water and they didn't have it. I saw the waiter run out the door and 2 minutes later he was bringing a water to my table. I went the next night and the same waiter saw me come in and he did the same thing. I was impressed. I got all my change back too.

Go in say hi to the manager and have a look around. Like I said, it isn't as good as the Infinito but it is a lot better than Tango. Plus, I believe you can have SOME trust in the waiters.

[Mcklipsch]

I know and remember Lupe Balboa Jr. Who ran Pimp Daddy's in NLBT. Pimp Daddy's was a small hole in the wall strip bar midway on 2nd street. They only had 2 rooms to fuck in. It was kind of behind Tamyko's, Martha's & Club 123. Don't remember exactly which club it was behind. Lupe was a big gordo dude from Alice, Texas which is about 50 miles from Corpus Christi.

I used to frequent Pimp Daddy's and talk/B. S. With Lupe. He told me that he used to work for HEB in Corpus Christi. I am from Corpus Christi so we were friendly. Lupe told me he tried to run Pimp Daddy's as an absentee owner at first. And was getting robbed blind. So he quit HEB and moved to Nuevo Laredo to run Pimp Daddy's full time.

He told me had dual citizenship in the U. S. & Mexico. He had Pimp Daddy's t-shirts silk screened and business cards printed up. Lupe told me there had never been a sucessful bar in Pimp Daddy's location. He lasted a couple of years-2003/2004, I think and closed. Not sure of the dates.

Pimp Daddy's had some wild and nasty fucking chicas. I know a guy from Dallas-Border Banger whose wallet was stolen while fucking a chica in Pimp Daddy's. He had a large amount of dinero on him. He and another guy from Austin-Kosher Cowboy posted on a now defunct website that Lupe refused to do anything to help him out and retrieve his stolen money. Both Border Banger and Kosher Cowboy are stand up honest guys. I knew both of them when they used to frequent NLBT. A lot of guys from that defunct website boycotted Pimp Daddys after that incident. I never had any problems at Pimp Daddy's.

Pimp Daddy's had some of the worst meseros in NLBT. They would try to rip you off in a heart beat. By not giving you the correct change after buying drinks. Lupe wouldn't let the meseros rip me off. I complained once to Lupe when a mesero attempted to short change me. Lupe bitched the mesero out and made him give me the corect change. Lupe was a bit of a Hustler trying to talk people/customers into investing money into Pimp Daddy's. He asked me once and I told him no. I heard him talking to other Gringos also about investing dinero into Pimp Daddy's.

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[Zoom 21]

I did a quick trip to visit a family friend, I went to a MP in Simon Bolivar in the front of the Amnesia club, my intentions were to go inside amnesia but the place was dead @ 3:00 pm friday, I went to this place when I I see a bid bold sign with the number in the curvside, It was only 1 Girl and her name was Karla, we agree to .5 pesos for FS and she gave me a killer BBBJ, also she offers a greek trip and a CM for an extra .3. I did mulitple pops and was very happy with the service, She was a pettite but not a spinner, brown hair and a beutiful face with marron eyes, ( no contacts, I Know the difference ) Still the service and quality of girls and price is to much better than the girls in border towns.

Happy mongering

SD

[Super Gato]

Nobody from here's been down here, or if they have, they haven't posted anything.

Altough I have seen Americans at Infinito in the past weeks.

Heard one of them say it was their first time in Monterrey, but, first timers going straight to Infinito?
No one goes to Infinito without firsthand info, so maybe he must have gotten it from here, cause locals will not recomend the place.
I was at Infinito on Sunday night. Not really packed but I didn't expect much but did see a handful of chicas to my liking but it seemed like big girls with small breast night overall. I was the only güero in the place but was treated like a king.

You are not kidding about locals not recommending the place. The woman taxi driver didn't want to take me there and like 95% of the other taxi drivers I've had in MTY pretended not to know where it was even though I told her it was on Villagran near Treviño. She got on the radio and the dispatcher guy said it was closed and I should go to Obsession or somewhere. I said I was going there to meet a friend (my international way to get taxi drivers to take me where I want to go when they're not getting a tip). She said it was dangerous there and I said I love danger and then she ended up taking me without more problems.

[MonterreyDude]

And of course they recomend Obsession.

Taxi drivers get 50 pesos per head delivered to the doors of the club.
Money that will be charged to you via cover.

Regular cover charge is 70 pesos in the afternoon, 100 at night. So you pay 120 and 150 respectively.

Hotel taxi drivers surcharge you 50 pesos per drive to the club and they still get 50 pesos kickback.

And we all know that Infinito is almost a 24/7 club.

Contrary to that, the rest of the 5 star clubs close on Sundays.


I was at Infinito on Sunday night. Not really packed but I didn't expect much but did see a handful of chicas to my liking but it seemed like big girls with small breast night overall. I was the only güero in the place but was treated like a king.

You are not kidding about locals not recommending the place. The woman taxi driver didn't want to take me there and like 95% of the other taxi drivers I've had in MTY pretended not to know where it was even though I told her it was on Villagran near Treviño. She got on the radio and the dispatcher guy said it was closed and I should go to Obsession or somewhere. I said I was going there to meet a friend (my international way to get taxi drivers to take me where I want to go when they're not getting a tip). She said it was dangerous there and I said I love danger and then she ended up taking me without more problems.

[LiveForToday]

I was in & all around monterrey 11-7-08 thru 11-16-08, I had a good time, & the women are Beautill & Sexy. If you want to know all the clubs I went to email me.

[Fuddzie]

I've been to other clubs in Mexico and the chica have their fees and the clubs have an additonal fee for the room. Sometimes as much or more than the girls. Is this the case in MTY? With that said, what should I expect to pay for 1-chica and 2- rental of club room?

[Supermonger2]

Arrived in Monterrey yesterday and as per recommendations here began the mongering at Infinito at 8:00PM Whereas this is my kind of Mexican strip club I can see why timid, non-Spanish-speakers would not want to venture here. But there were very peaceful customers and friendly girls who while dancing on stage let you cop a feel without demanding tips. Plenty of hot young women with tight bodies who all offered the same deal: fifty pesos per four minute privado--during that time, two hundred for only CBJ and three hundred fifty pesos for FS.

Picked a gorgeous slender youngster with perky tits and off we went to some barely-lit crummy little closets upstairs with no doors. She was very accomodating and did whatever asked. Be advised to check and confirm time when booking as they seem to lose count of the four minute increments and after you bust a nut, try to say it was more rather than less.

Day two: Prefer MP so as per many recommendations tried Romanos first only to find five girls working. Only one was decent and unless you upgrade to the eight hundred peso package, no BJ.

Next went to Playboy. What a joke. They started at 160US and went up from there for not much better than Romanos. No thanks.

Wound up at Le Barron for the best selection @ seven hundred pesos for 40--60 minutes of FS. Chose Fatima, a cute, but bigger than my normal taste, twenty three year old beauty from Jalisco. Huge tits and began with so-so massage to decent BBBJ to covered FS. Performed well but had to ask her to quit the unconvincing vocals so I could cum. Great attitude. Tipped fifty pesos more than locals so she was happy.

Met the owner in the parking lot while leaving and we talked for an hour--very cool guy who speaks some English. He invited me back for seconds at four hundred pesos. Off for tacos and then back to Le Barron.

Tomorrow heading for Tampico. Anyone have info on the scene there?

[Supermonger2]

Forget names. The first chica with big titties was named Fatima. The second that I just had was called Karla--more slender but not very enthusiastic.

[MonterreyDude]

Supermonger.

Both Supergato and me were at Infinito.
Must have walked right past you.

Glad you had fun.




Forget names. The first chica with big titties was named Fatima. The second that I just had was called Karla--more slender but not very enthusiastic.

[MonterreyDude]

Fudzie, I guess you are finally coming to Monterrey?

You have to remember that Monterrey is nowhere as close to Tj as you think.
It's a whole different concept than "more pops per hour, more bangs for you dollar" stuff you have over there.

Clubs here are not bar oriented where you pick a girl and take her to an adjoining hotel.

No, here you get regular SCs where you get a girl, buy her ficha drinks pay her a full service that might start as low as 300 pesos at Infinito and go way up to 3000 pesos at places like Prestige and Obsession.

Mean price for a private room at a club like Harem or Casino goes for 1300 pesos for half an hour, but bear in mind that everything is done in-call.





I've been to other clubs in Mexico and the chica have their fees and the clubs have an additonal fee for the room. Sometimes as much or more than the girls. Is this the case in MTY? With that said, what should I expect to pay for 1-chica and 2- rental of club room?

[Fuddzie]

No, here you get regular SCs where you get a girl, buy her ficha drinks pay her a full service that might start as low as 300 pesos at Infinito and go way up to 3000 pesos at places like Prestige and Obsession.

Mean price for a private room at a club like Harem or Casino goes for 1300 pesos for half an hour, but bear in mind that everything is done in-call.[/QUOTE]Let me get this right, girls start as low as 300 pesos as Infinito and up to 3000 pesos at places like Prestige and Obsessons and that includes a little space to do the deed. The rates you reported for Prestige and Obsessions includee the girl and a private room rather than "just a place to do the deed".

I go to the Dominican Republic and like taking the chica back to MY hotel room for the deed. How can I do this in MTY?

[Precocious One]

Forget names. The first chica with big titties was named Fatima. The second that I just had was called Karla--more slender but not very enthusiastic.


I fuc_ed Karla. Terrible. I believe that Le Baron has two sister clubs of which one is called Esthetica Roma. I gave a bad review on both of these places just two short months ago. At that particular time, they were completely oblivious to the contracting global economy and entirely apathetic to customer satisfaction. I was used to receiving a particular level of service in the MP's I patronized and these guys were way behind their competitors. I remember that Karla took so long to get my change before we started that I got redressed and almost cancelled our session. If the owner gave you a repeat at $400 pesos it is quite probable that he and his girls are now getting a clue.

Le Baron is an absolute superb value at $400 pesos if you have an accomodating chica.

[MonterreyDude]

Fuddzie,

Due process here is paying bar fine and the girl's fee.
Depending on the girl (who might make better pesos working inside the club) and the House, barfines are on the 350 pesos (Infinito) via 1000 pesos (Harem) up to 2000 pesos (Poisson).

Girls might charge you anywhere from 1000 pesos up to 2000 pesos for 1 -1.5 hours.

No Toda la Noche here, though they are almost non existant, there are exceptions.

Fuddzie, Monterrey is both an expensive and comparatively cheaper to other Mexican cities clubwise.
Depends where you go to, and what girl you deal with.

And there are no salidas at the 5 star clubs.
Everything must be done behind club doors.
But scratch them from the list.

Yes, at some clubs 3000 pesos includes a nice parlor, which goes for 1800 - 2000 pesos for 30 minutes (45 depending on the club) and 1000 pesos for her.

Price tags at some 5 star clubs might start at 3000 pesos, but some of the girls might ante up the bid by asking for bottles of "wine", extras, puting that price at almost 5000 pesos.

5 star clubs are worth it just because the girls are great looking babes and if you have the money in the wallet.
But you have to be very careful that them girls do not squeeze you dry.



No, here you get regular SCs where you get a girl, buy her ficha drinks pay her a full service that might start as low as 300 pesos at Infinito and go way up to 3000 pesos at places like Prestige and Obsession.

Mean price for a private room at a club like Harem or Casino goes for 1300 pesos for half an hour, but bear in mind that everything is done in-call.Let me get this right, girls start as low as 300 pesos as Infinito and up to 3000 pesos at places like Prestige and Obsessons and that includes a little space to do the deed. The rates you reported for Prestige and Obsessions includee the girl and a private room rather than "just a place to do the deed".

I go to the Dominican Republic and like taking the chica back to MY hotel room for the deed. How can I do this in MTY?[/QUOTE]

[Fuddzie]

Fuddzie,

Due process here is paying bar fine and the girl's fee.

Depending on the girl (who might make better pesos working inside the club) and the House, barfines are on the 350 pesos (Infinito) via 1000 pesos (Harem) up to 2000 pesos (Poisson).

Girls might charge you anywhere from 1000 pesos up to 2000 pesos for 1 -1.5 hours.

No Toda la Noche here, though they are almost non existant, there are exceptions.

Fuddzie, Monterrey is both an expensive and comparatively cheaper to other Mexican cities clubwise.

Depends where you go to, and what girl you deal with.

And there are no salidas at the 5 star clubs.

Everything must be done behind club doors.

But scratch them from the list.

Yes, at some clubs 3000 pesos includes a nice parlor, which goes for 1800 - 2000 pesos for 30 minutes (45 depending on the club) and 1000 pesos for her.

Price tags at some 5 star clubs might start at 3000 pesos, but some of the girls might ante up the bid by asking for bottles of "wine", extras, puting that price at almost 5000 pesos.

5 star clubs are worth it just because the girls are great looking babes and if you have the money in the wallet.

But you have to be very careful that them girls do not squeeze you dry.Muchas gracias! I don't believe MTY is cost effective for me and from my experience in Merida over priced. I do know the chicas are beautiful and all that, however I believe I will stick with Sosua DR for my assortment of shades and much, much lower prices and gfe/s.

Thank you again for your knowledge.

[Asian Fixation]

First time poster, long time lurker.

I am an occasional business visitor to Monterrey but since I am usually tied up with senior company executives or don't stay in town overnight, I have not had the opportunity to partake of the many options this city has to offer. This week the cat is away and the mouse is ready to play.

Since I don't speak Spanish and have only rarely ventured from the hotel I was very uncertain how to get started. This forum provided enough details to get me through. Thank you to all the forum members, both the regulars who provide the useful information and the other newbies who ask the many questions that need to be asked.

First commendation goes to USB. You posted a few weeks back that a newbie like me who does not speak Spanish would be best served by visiting a mid-level club such as Casino, Pasarales or Harem. Throwing a dart at the wall had me heading to Pasareles.

Second commendation goes to Carlos. The map you have created is invaluable in helping to understand the area and identify ground zero of the sex scene in Monterrey. My company usually stays at the Presidente Intercontinental which is located too far to walk to the clubs. In order to avoid the inevitable cab driver re-direct, I hailed a cab and asked to be taken to a hotel near Pasarelas. The hotel was a very short walk from the intended target and I did not get any BS from the cabbie. Fare to the Hotel = $35 pesos plus $10 peso tip.

While USB's intent was good, I was not thrilled with Pasarales. I got there around 10: 30 on a Wednesday night. There were about 20 girls there with 3-4 that caught my eye but I was totally unsuccessful in finding an English speaking girl or bartender to explain the options available to me. Unfortunately the girls spent most of their time talking to each other or watching the soccer. After about 15 minutes of boredom with no dancers on stage I was thinking about giving it up. The girls I was interested in lacked the enthusiasm to work through the language barrier and soon wandered off. Eventually I as able to find a girl who was willing to work through the language and get us both were we wanted to go. She wasn't my first choice but she was persistant and enthusiastic. With a lot of sign language and groping she was able to get across two options:

15 minutes = 550 pesos

30 minutes = 1000 pesos

Since I wasn't entirely sure what to expect I went for the 15 minutes. A man came over and I gave him $600 pesos and gave the waiter $50 for my one beer and was led upstairs. The upstairs has two different areas. They have about 30 open "closets" with a place to sit. I also saw 3 "rooms" with curtains. We went into one of the rooms and when the first guy brought my change and the cover he shut the curtain and she got to work. I got a full 15 minutes of CBJ and FS which was all I needed.

When we got dressed I went back downstairs and took off. A $50 peso cab ride back to the hotel wrapped up my trip. I never got anything back from my beer but didn't expect anything. Total damage at the club was $600. I think I'll do a different club tomorrow or hold out for my choice rather than settling but for my first trip I was more than satisfied. I'd like to try Infinito based on everything I hear on this site and may head there. Either that or Casino and hope for better communications next time.

Thanks to all and happy mongering.

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[Asian Fixation]

Since I've finally posted my first report, why bother waiting for a second. There is a club near the Presidente called El Vinador. I've always wondered if the girls there were available for anything more than show. I've never seen anything going on except talking and nobody ever disappeared into a back room. After talking to the manager I get them impression they are just there for scenery. Any differing opinions? The girls are very good looking. Definately a notch up from Pasarales.

[MonterreyDude]

Let me give you a pointer on El Viñador, a totally up scale bar for the Colonia del Valle district for the rich patrons.

Forget it.

The girls that serve as hostesses and waitresses, do not consider themselves at all as hookers, prostitutes, whatever, but El Viñador is famous in an undergorund sense, a private manner, that the girls do go out with customers.

Again, let me point out that Presidente Intercontinental is on the Colonial del Valle district, the rich and very rich part of the city.
Completely set aside from the rest of the city by the hill to the North of the hotel.

Make a wild guess how much these girls charge.

Let me tell you: Nothing.
They don't charge. They get tons of money on tips and the patrons try to win the favors of the girls by getting them gifts and trips.

So think into the 500 dlls mark and then again, no, cause the girls will go for the young, single and rich customer.

El Viñador is long story to be told.
USB and many mongers know me in person, and they know I have never pointed El Viñador as an option.
I live in the Colonia del Valle area and me..., I don't fit as a Viñador customer.

Asian Fixation. Please and no offense... a word of advice.
DO NOT mention your thoughts on El Viñador to anyone.

This is THE Colonia del Valle you are talking about.

Go to rooms in the back at El Viñador?
Forget that train of thoughts... totally.

NEVER EVER EVER EVER in the Colonia del Valle district ask someone if the girls you see cavorting around prostitute themselves.
News travels FAST in the area, more so when offending the inhabitants of the area
It could bounce back to you and land you in trouble and way even into the work you are doing here.

And Iam not joking.
You have no idea of the money and the power that walks around in this part of town.
Not to mention the sensibilty of the people that inhabit it.





Since I've finally posted my first report, why bother waiting for a second. There is a club near the Presidente called El Vinador. I've always wondered if the girls there were available for anything more than show. I've never seen anything going on except talking and nobody ever disappeared into a back room. After talking to the manager I get them impression they are just there for scenery. Any differing opinions? The girls are very good looking. Definately a notch up from Pasarales.

[Member #3453]

Bars like Pasarelas, Casino, Harem, and Bahamas are sometimes inconsistent with respect to quality of selection. A lot of it depends sometimes on the night of the week. As you get closer to the weekend, Wednesday through Saturday, you'll see a marked difference in the quality of selection available over the weekend as compared with the first part of the week.

In addition, as the rent becomes due toward the end of the month, you'll also notice a better selection being available in the clubs. Some of these girls just come out of the woodwork to supplement their incomes, and you will NOT find them at other times of the month, totally losing track of them until their need arises again.

For the new, or infrequent visitor, I believe that the lower end bars such as El Infinito, Matehuela, El Cielo, Givenchi, etc...are more difficult to navigate and understand, especially for the Gringo, than the medium level bars. Finding girls in the lower end bars that speak English is even more of an oddity than in the medium and upper level bars, and the comfort level in the lower end bars leaves a lot to be desired.

Plus the girls in the lower end bars are into turnover, spending less time and effort on communication, and more time and effort on rotation. So, for the non-Spanish speaking visitor, the lower end bars may be a little less satisfying than the medium level bars. In the medium level bars, communication is the way the girls earn their living.

The girls we run into within the SC bar scene are from a strata within the social structure in Mexico where they offer themselves for sale in the bar at the expense of being thought of by the majority of Mexican society as the lowest of the low.

Most of them are somewhat delusional in that they truly justify it a number of ways. Many of them rationalize their behavior by thinking of themselves as "entertainers." With many of the girls, their legitimate friends, neighbors, and and extended family members have no idea what they actually do for a living. And, if their loved ones and friends do suspect what they do for a living, they maintain a level of denial about their suspicions out of an economic justification of necessity. It's a "don't ask, don't tell" kind of environment.

Most of the girls find the work boring and objectionable to their own female sensibilities. But, compared to the difficulty of work that's routinely performed by other "good girls" in Mexican society, the work pays significantly better comparatively. Once they get a taste of the money, they simply can not go back to having regular, hard working, jobs. And, many of the girls figure that if God has blessed them physically, they are going to use what many of them perceive as their only advantage in life.

Their jobs in the bar are NOT easy, staying up late every night, blasting music, all the drunks, dealing with the realities of their behavior upon their own egos, etc...but, they conclude that working like a dog at any other of the legit jobs available to girls in their class, and at wages that are probably 10 times less, is NOT tolerable for them. So, the girls do it because they've concluded that it's the smart thing to do, and their window of opportunity is age related, realizing their future destiny is otherwise relatively bleak. And they do it all knowing they will be reviled by Mexican society.

One thing to understand about Mexican society is that once you are a member of the upper crust, that position within the Mexican class structure is highly valued, perhaps more than money itself. In the US the class distinctions are more blurred. In Mexican society, everything is predicated on class position. So, if you're from a family that has social position, you simply do not throw that distinction away by conducting yourself poorly.

The girls you are running into in the upscale legitimate bar are simply the highest of the high. They would never consider doing what the girls in the SCs do, not without some kind of scenario where their conduct is predicated on their having a legitimate relationship.

What Amigomio is trying to say is that they will consort with the Highest of the High in their society because their affiliations with the highest of the high translate into elevated position for them as well. But, they are going to accept the attentions from the Highest of the High in a different way than what is routinely found in the SC environment.

The girls in the legit upscale bars are likely from well to do families, educated, and from the higher strata of Mexican society. With that distinction prevailing in their minds, they are better than the SC level girls, and would never demean themselves only for money. They are probably just as HOT in legitimate relationships, but they would NEVER consider giving up their status in the higher social strata by demeaning themselves the way our SC girls demean themselves. The "Good" girls in the upscale bars will "play," but only to the extent that they do so according to the rules of upper class Mexican society, rules that our SC girls do not play by.

The SC girls figure they are already the lowest of the low, with almost NO chance of being included in the upper strata. So, most of them have given over their virtue, along with any hopes for class position, in favor of the next best thing, money. To them, money is the "equalizer," the sweet revenge upon a society that labels them inferior through no fault of their own.

Many of the "good" girls, even the highest of the high, dress provocatively, act erotically, according to our own Gringo sociology, and sometimes they appear to us to be "available" for our kind of mongering fun, when in reality, they are totally and completely unavailable for our kind of fun.

We sense their provocativeness according to our own social standards in the USA, and we misinterpret their erotic demeanors according to standards that originate in our own Gringo culture, thereby mistakenly believing they are "available" for our kind of fun, when nothing could be further from their minds.

They may believe that by associating legitimately with a Gringo they can achieve even a higher social status than they currently occupy in Mexican society, but they would not consider going about it the way a lower end bar girl might go about it with us.

Both good girls and/or bad girls would probably do just about anything to achieve higher social status, but their methodology in achieving it would be totally different, the good girl achieving it through legitimate romance, and the bad girl achieving it by acting like a depraved nymphomaniac, and for relatively little money, thank God!!

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


First time poster, long time lurker.

I am an occasional business visitor to Monterrey but since I am usually tied up with senior company executives or don't stay in town overnight, I have not had the opportunity to partake of the many options this city has to offer. This week the cat is away and the mouse is ready to play.

Since I don't speak Spanish and have only rarely ventured from the hotel I was very uncertain how to get started. This forum provided enough details to get me through. Thank you to all the forum members, both the regulars who provide the useful information and the other newbies who ask the many questions that need to be asked.

First commendation goes to USB. You posted a few weeks back that a newbie like me who does not speak Spanish would be best served by visiting a mid-level club such as Casino, Pasarales or Harem. Throwing a dart at the wall had me heading to Pasareles.

Second commendation goes to Carlos. The map you have created is invaluable in helping to understand the area and identify ground zero of the sex scene in Monterrey. My company usually stays at the Presidente Intercontinental which is located too far to walk to the clubs. In order to avoid the inevitable cab driver re-direct, I hailed a cab and asked to be taken to a hotel near Pasarelas. The hotel was a very short walk from the intended target and I did not get any BS from the cabbie. Fare to the Hotel = $35 pesos plus $10 peso tip.

While USB's intent was good, I was not thrilled with Pasarales. I got there around 10: 30 on a Wednesday night. There were about 20 girls there with 3-4 that caught my eye but I was totally unsuccessful in finding an English speaking girl or bartender to explain the options available to me. Unfortunately the girls spent most of their time talking to each other or watching the soccer. After about 15 minutes of boredom with no dancers on stage I was thinking about giving it up. The girls I was interested in lacked the enthusiasm to work through the language barrier and soon wandered off. Eventually I as able to find a girl who was willing to work through the language and get us both were we wanted to go. She wasn't my first choice but she was persistant and enthusiastic. With a lot of sign language and groping she was able to get across two options:

15 minutes = 550 pesos

30 minutes = 1000 pesos

Since I wasn't entirely sure what to expect I went for the 15 minutes. A man came over and I gave him $600 pesos and gave the waiter $50 for my one beer and was led upstairs. The upstairs has two different areas. They have about 30 open "closets" with a place to sit. I also saw 3 "rooms" with curtains. We went into one of the rooms and when the first guy brought my change and the cover he shut the curtain and she got to work. I got a full 15 minutes of CBJ and FS which was all I needed.

When we got dressed I went back downstairs and took off. A $50 peso cab ride back to the hotel wrapped up my trip. I never got anything back from my beer but didn't expect anything. Total damage at the club was $600. I think I'll do a different club tomorrow or hold out for my choice rather than settling but for my first trip I was more than satisfied. I'd like to try Infinito based on everything I hear on this site and may head there. Either that or Casino and hope for better communications next time.

Thanks to all and happy mongering.

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[Doubt98]

I have the chance to make a trip to Monterrey between Christmas and New Years. I know the clubs slow down during that time but by how much? Is it 1/2 the girls but still a decent selection? Is it only the 4's to 6's that stay around? What about the customers? Are there less customers to match the fewer dancers. I know it wouldn't be the scene we all know and love but would it still be good?

[Member #3453]

It's probably a great time to go to Bangkok or Jakarta...But, Monterrey? Well, I expect it will slow down considerably, and probably to a very discouraging pace. I know that my own girls are planning to be out of town from about three days before Christmas to at least January 6th or so. I would think it would be extremely disappointing the week between Christmas and New Years, but I have never actually been in Monterrey during that time...Amigomio, what so you?


I have the chance to make a trip to Monterrey between Christmas and New Years. I know the clubs slow down during that time but by how much? Is it 1/2 the girls but still a decent selection? Is it only the 4's to 6's that stay around? What about the customers? Are there less customers to match the fewer dancers. I know it wouldn't be the scene we all know and love but would it still be good?

[MonterreyDude]

It will be really slow, but not dead.

Though I don't truely know cause am out of the club hopping circuit way till January.
I do go to the luch buffets and they are not up to par as in regular business days, but still, it is an option.

I know ElCabron did it once, still repenting. But he expected to have his 3-5 favorites around, something he did not find during the holidays.




It's probably a great time to go to Bangkok or Jakarta...But, Monterrey? Well, I expect it will slow down considerably, and probably to a very discouraging pace. I know that my own girls are planning to be out of town from about three days before Christmas to at least January 6th or so. I would think it would be extremely disappointing the week between Christmas and New Years, but I have never actually been in Monterrey during that time...Amigomio, what so you?

[Member #4258]

Does anybody know if Kimberley is still at Harem? Not here real name but she likes it so much she has a Kimberley tattoo on her right shoulder. Very pretty, 25, light skinned with dark features but lat chested and little big in the butt. Nice body overall though. I think she was from Oaxaca. The BJ queen of Harem. I was with her several times at Harem and one night she convinced me to pay her salida. She drained me so many time I couldn't walk the next morning.

Hoser

[MonterreyDude]

Not anymore.

Retired by a rich fellow from here.




Does anybody know if Kimberley is still at Harem? Not here real name but she likes it so much she has a Kimberley tattoo on her right shoulder. Very pretty, 25, light skinned with dark features but lat chested and little big in the butt. Nice body overall though. I think she was from Oaxaca. The BJ queen of Harem. I was with her several times at Harem and one night she convinced me to pay her salida. She drained me so many time I couldn't walk the next morning.

Hoser

[Member #4258]

Not anymore.

Retired by a rich fellow from here.From this forum? Not to name names obviously, just curious.

What I remember is she quite beautiful.

Striking features and a perfect nose.

[MonterreyDude]

No, local Monterrey guy.




From this forum? Not to name names obviously, just curious.

What I remember is she quite beautiful.

Striking features and a perfect nose.

[El Cabron 007]

When I was there during the holidays, I had no choice but to do one of Amigomio's girls. That's how dead it was.

Trust me, it is boring dead.



It will be really slow, but not dead.

Though I don't truely know cause am out of the club hopping circuit way till January.
I do go to the luch buffets and they are not up to par as in regular business days, but still, it is an option.

I know ElCabron did it once, still repenting. But he expected to have his 3-5 favorites around, something he did not find during the holidays.

[Doubt98]

The one that was tall, or the one that was wide, or the one that was both?

[MonterreyDude]

Yeah, let me be the butt of the jokes....

... of course everyone knows that I have the BEST girls hidden away from all of you.




The one that was tall, or the one that was wide, or the one that was both?

[El Cabron 007]

To be fair to Amigo, his taste in girls has changed dramatically since we started commenting on his girls. he now goes after 10's and even feels free to hit on my girls. Even while I am working them..... get your hands off of her, you pervert.

My last visit, sweet P was not working since I arrived on a Wednesday. She later told me that Amigo told her I was coming down on Thursday and she was waiting for me. The manager called her and she was in the club in 20 minutes.

Sweet P tells me that Lady J, the one she ran into in my hotel room once and she almost killed me for it, Lady J and her are now friends. Yep, I introduced them to each other and they hit it off. Anyways, lady J was asking her to go to El Inter club. She asked if I wanted to go.

Out of no where pops Bob. What a surprise. We talk him into joining us and off we were. Sweet P showered in my hotel room and we went down the street to wait for lady J. Lady J had no idea I was in town.

At el Inter, 5 other girls from Prestige jumped on me. It was a scene with this gringo surrounded by those teenagers. Hot teenagers. Each one sticking her hands where they should not be. Each one whispering in my ear that she wants to go home with me. Each one making me special offers to sweeten the deal. Lady J even offered culo action. She is the last Brazilian on earth that does not do anal.

Needless to say, Bob was having the time of his life and I was driven wild with all these hands playing in my pants.

What I could not figure out is why those 2 dudes, security guys, followed me in and out of the bathroom watching me and talking some stuff of the walkie-talkie. The only explanation is that maybe they were worried about bailing out and me not paying the tab. I don't know.

2 weeks ago, I went to to TJ. I was pleasantly surprised when this crunchy one was in my face. She has the looks of Viko, the body of Crunchy S, the smile of slutty S and the sweetness of sweet P. A 20 y/o chica that must be the best I have ever had. We hit it off as if we were life-time GF/BF. She rocked.

Up in the room, and while she was completely wasted, she says: "Que pasa ta la pasa"

I went back again last weekend. I called on another hot little one to join me for a drink since the hot one I saw last week was not there. After about 30 minutes, we worked out a 1-hour deal and off we were. That's when I saw my hottie again. She just arrived and she looked so damn hot... hotter than last week. I tipped the other girl a $20 and I pulled my hottie up to the room.

Imagine 2 lovers who have not seen each other in years. The best hour I've had in a long time. She topped all the girls I have had.

Que pasa ta la pasa. I took her up again for another hour. She stayed with me for 5 hours total. She is ready to go home with me for an all nighter. Hot damm.

Que pasa ta la pasa.


Yeah, let me be the butt of the jokes....

... of course everyone knows that I have the BEST girls hidden away from all of you.

[MonterreyDude]

Two things ElCabron.

1. My girls have always been the best. Thing is you never wandered into Harem, Pasarelas, Casino, cuase you don't like the setup, so you never saw "la creme de la creme". That's why they are my hidden secrets.

2. The reason you can mingle with the girls at places like El Inter is because you DON'T look like a gringo. As plain as that. Even me as a local I can't go there cause I stick out like a sore thumb.

Ok, make it 3.

3. Am glad someone has fun at TJ. All over the boards mongers keep complaining that TJ is dead. It is dead for for people that can't adjust to the new girls, the new ways, even with the peso exchange rate they complain they can't get "toda la noche" or good bargains nor good girls. Am glad that an old wolf like ElCabron can demonstrate that it can be done.




To be fair to Amigo, his taste in girls has changed dramatically since we started commenting on his girls. he now goes after 10's and even feels free to hit on my girls. Even while I am working them..... get your hands off of her, you pervert.

My last visit, sweet P was not working since I arrived on a Wednesday. She later told me that Amigo told her I was coming down on Thursday and she was waiting for me. The manager called her and she was in the club in 20 minutes.

Sweet P tells me that Lady J, the one she ran into in my hotel room once and she almost killed me for it, Lady J and her are now friends. Yep, I introduced them to each other and they hit it off. Anyways, lady J was asking her to go to El Inter club. She asked if I wanted to go.

Out of no where pops Bob. What a surprise. We talk him into joining us and off we were. Sweet P showered in my hotel room and we went down the street to wait for lady J. Lady J had no idea I was in town.

At el Inter, 5 other girls from Prestige jumped on me. It was a scene with this gringo surrounded by those teenagers. Hot teenagers. Each one sticking her hands where they should not be. Each one whispering in my ear that she wants to go home with me. Each one making me special offers to sweeten the deal. Lady J even offered culo action. She is the last Brazilian on earth that does not do anal.

Needless to say, Bob was having the time of his life and I was driven wild with all these hands playing in my pants.

What I could not figure out is why those 2 dudes, security guys, followed me in and out of the bathroom watching me and talking some stuff of the walkie-talkie. The only explanation is that maybe they were worried about bailing out and me not paying the tab. I don't know.

2 weeks ago, I went to to TJ. I was pleasantly surprised when this crunchy one was in my face. She has the looks of Viko, the body of Crunchy S, the smile of slutty S and the sweetness of sweet P. A 20 y/o chica that must be the best I have ever had. We hit it off as if we were life-time GF/BF. She rocked.

Up in the room, and while she was completely wasted, she says: "Que pasa ta la pasa"

I went back again last weekend. I called on another hot little one to join me for a drink since the hot one I saw last week was not there. After about 30 minutes, we worked out a 1-hour deal and off we were. That's when I saw my hottie again. She just arrived and she looked so damn hot... hotter than last week. I tipped the other girl a $20 and I pulled my hottie up to the room.

Imagine 2 lovers who have not seen each other in years. The best hour I've had in a long time. She topped all the girls I have had.

Que pasa ta la pasa. I took her up again for another hour. She stayed with me for 5 hours total. She is ready to go home with me for an all nighter. Hot damm.

Que pasa ta la pasa.

[Prokofiev]

" Que pasa ta la pasa "

And what does this mean? What language is it?

[MonterreyDude]

I guess the proper spelling should be "Que pasa te la pasa", but anyway, it means nothing.

I think the girl was saying "Que pasa calabaza" , a childish rhyme, a greeting, nothing else above "What's up" or "What's happening".
Literally translated from Spanish means "What's up pumpkin".

Of course our friend ElCabron can be won over by simple Spanish phrases.




" Que pasa ta la pasa "

And what does this mean? What language is it?

[El Cabron 007]

Come on ... a girl as sweet as this one acting like.... well .. not acting .. but is a 20 year old kid who has already won my heart over .... a girl like this one saying "Que pasa ta la pasa" and sounding so dang cute ... will win me over?

Of course she did.

Seriously, she incredibly combines the qualities of all the girls I liked at El Infi and Prestige. I wish I could put her in a to-go box and bring her back with me .... I wish.

Que pasa ta la pasa.

I miss her already and will be driving down in few minutes. I guess Monterrey will have to wait.

On a final note, TJ has changed dramatically. I met some dude down there who are regulars and have their own special girls. Made a couple of friends and almost started sharing the girls with them ... almost. But NO. This one is too precious to share.





I guess the proper spelling should be "Que pasa te la pasa", but anyway, it means nothing.

I think the girl was saying "Que pasa calabaza" , a childish rhyme, a greeting, nothing else above "What's up" or "What's happening".
Literally translated from Spanish means "What's up pumpkin".

Of course our friend ElCabron can be won over by simple Spanish phrases.

[MonterreyDude]

My friend, the phrase "Que pasa ta la pasa" is gibbirish in spanish

And I never wrote anything close to "acting" anywhere in my post.




Come on ... a girl as sweet as this one acting like.... well .. not acting .. but is a 20 year old kid who has already won my heart over .... a girl like this one saying "Que pasa ta la pasa" and sounding so dang cute ... will win me over?

Of course she did.

Seriously, she incredibly combines the qualities of all the girls I liked at El Infi and Prestige. I wish I could put her in a to-go box and bring her back with me .... I wish.

Que pasa ta la pasa.

I miss her already and will be driving down in few minutes. I guess Monterrey will have to wait.

On a final note, TJ has changed dramatically. I met some dude down there who are regulars and have their own special girls. Made a couple of friends and almost started sharing the girls with them ... almost. But NO. This one is too precious to share.

[Prokofiev]

My friend, the phrase "Que pasa ta la pasa" is gibbirish in spanish

That was my point . . .

But "Que pasa, Calabaza?" sounds right. Plus it's cute and works well in either language.

A drunk and horny Gringo doesn't always hear well.

[El Cabron 007]

OK OK. you guys are correct. I checked with her a little while ago. It is "Que pasa calabaza"

What I forgot to mention was that she is from Rynosa(?), next to Monterrey. The subject came up again tonight. She is heading back next month. Of course, once I told her about my frequest trips there, we both had an evil look in our eyes. Yeah, she asked me to meet up with her in Monterrey. She gave me her phone number. She promised me the world ... and of course I will beleive her .... not ...

we'll see.

Hey Proko. Long time. How have you been?



That was my point . . .

But "Que pasa, Calabaza?" sounds right. Plus it's cute and works well in either language.

A drunk and horny Gringo doesn't always hear well.

[MonterreyDude]

Reynosa is not "next" to Monterrey.

Two hour drive on car, 3 on bus from the Texas border with McAllen-Hidalgo.
And I would guess she expects you to pay her bus fee to the city.




OK OK. you guys are correct. I checked with her a little while ago. It is "Que pasa calabaza"

What I forgot to mention was that she is from Rynosa(?), next to Monterrey. The subject came up again tonight. She is heading back next month. Of course, once I told her about my frequest trips there, we both had an evil look in our eyes. Yeah, she asked me to meet up with her in Monterrey. She gave me her phone number. She promised me the world ... and of course I will beleive her .... not ...

we'll see.

Hey Proko. Long time. How have you been?

[Hog Dog]

OK OK. you guys are correct. I checked with her a little while ago. It is "Que pasa calabaza"You can surprise her by coming back with the usual response to this, which is "Nada nada limonada."

[Hog Dog]

High fives and kudos to the guys here who recommended Marcella (www.pompis.com. Mx). The place is one of the cleanest esteticas I've ever been to in Monterrey and the chicas were young and friendly. I sessioned there about five times. Great experience every time. The 600 peso fee can't be beat. No upsells at all, though one chica out of the 5 did offer anal for extra $$$. I stayed at the Holiday Inn Centro on Padre Meir, and Marcella is an easy 3 minute walk away.

[Precocious One]

High fives and kudos to the guys here who recommended Marcella (www.pompis.com. Mx). The place is one of the cleanest esteticas I've ever been to in Monterrey and the chicas were young and friendly. I sessioned there about five times. Great experience every time. The 600 peso fee can't be beat. No upsells at all, though one chica out of the 5 did offer anal for extra $$$. I stayed at the Holiday Inn Centro on Padre Meir, and Marcella is an easy 3 minute walk away.


www.pompis.com.mx

[Albert Punter]

I decided to go for Azul, just wanted to try a “wanna-be” porn-star.
She advertises on http://www.soloadultosmonterrey.com/ and http://www.lucesazules.com/197334.html and works through an agency.
You call and set the appointment and she arrives together with the boss, who collect the money in advance, which I didn’t like but apparently there is no other choice

Her face is nice and hot, with very nice blue eyes.
Body is so and so, meaning that top part and breast is ok, small but delightful, and from waist downward she is very large, larger that you can imagine from pictures. Also belly is fluffy with a scar (2 children), so photoshop is heavily used in this case.
Somewhat I was prepared to that and I didn’t care as I was looking for service and not for a doll. And service was all there as advertised, you can really do whatever you like, and more.
Also, her conversation is not the best but at the end who cares ?
When in one and a half hour you virtually don’t stop being blown and you don’t stop penetrating from front or from back, till you dry completely your d..k, everything else is irrelevant.

Some stats:
- age: 24
- height: cm 155/5.08’ (she advertises 160 cm/5.24’ but she is shorter, however that is not an issue)
- weight: kg 47/ 103 lb
- face: 6/10
- hair: blondish, shoulder long
- body: 6/10
- tits: 8/10 small but nice and soft with sensible nipples
- pussy: 6/10
- skin: regular
- skills: 10/10
- passion: 10/10
- foreplay: excellent
- kissing: DFK
- showering together: yes
- BBBJ: excellent, with frequent deepthroating
- CIM: yes
- COF: yes
- swallowing: yes
- AR: yes
- DATY: available, but I passed
- FS: yes, various positions
- ANAL: yes
- rate: 2.000 pesos for 1,5 hour (expensive, at today’s exchange rate US$ 140 or EUR 108)
- english spoken: no
- repeat: not sure

[MonterreyDude]

Albert, Monterrey is not SEA, nor China, your mongering zone in the world.

Monterrey is an expensive city and being here you should have noticed that even today in the middle of a world crisis, Monterrey is still expensive and will be expensive.

And you went with Azul that charges 2000 pesos.. there are other escorts that charge way into the 3000 pesos range and beyond.

But anyway, Azul acomodates, she gave you a lot more that other escorts here don't do.

Never heard form other mongers get what Azul did to you for less or for more from other local escorts.





I decided to go for Azul, just wanted to try a “wanna-be” porn-star.
She advertises on http://www.soloadultosmonterrey.com/ and http://www.lucesazules.com/197334.html and works through an agency.
You call and set the appointment and she arrives together with the boss, who collect the money in advance, which I didn’t like but apparently there is no other choice

Her face is nice and hot, with very nice blue eyes.
Body is so and so, meaning that top part and breast is ok, small but delightful, and from waist downward she is very large, larger that you can imagine from pictures. Also belly is fluffy with a scar (2 children), so photoshop is heavily used in this case.
Somewhat I was prepared to that and I didn’t care as I was looking for service and not for a doll. And service was all there as advertised, you can really do whatever you like, and more.
Also, her conversation is not the best but at the end who cares ?
When in one and a half hour you virtually don’t stop being blown and you don’t stop penetrating from front or from back, till you dry completely your d..k, everything else is irrelevant.

Some stats:
- age: 24
- height: cm 155/5.08’ (she advertises 160 cm/5.24’ but she is shorter, however that is not an issue)
- weight: kg 47/ 103 lb
- face: 6/10
- hair: blondish, shoulder long
- body: 6/10
- tits: 8/10 small but nice and soft with sensible nipples
- pussy: 6/10
- skin: regular
- skills: 10/10
- passion: 10/10
- foreplay: excellent
- kissing: DFK
- showering together: yes
- BBBJ: excellent, with frequent deepthroating
- CIM: yes
- COF: yes
- swallowing: yes
- AR: yes
- DATY: available, but I passed
- FS: yes, various positions
- ANAL: yes
- rate: 2.000 pesos for 1,5 hour (expensive, at today’s exchange rate US$ 140 or EUR 108)
- english spoken: no
- repeat: not sure

[Guadalajara Don]

What Monterrey is, is the filthiest, nastiest, city in this hemisphere. The air qulity rivals Bejing's. Take my advice: avoid this shithole at all cost.

[MonterreyDude]

Totally untrue, false and an open lie.
But you must be confusing Mexico City with Monterrey.

In Monterrey, pollution counts do not go over 100 as opposed to Mexico City where they go well into the 200's Imecas and some days, way beyond that.

So we'll leave this a a simple mistake coming from someone that has lived in Guadalajara for the last 6 years.


Monterrey's air quality rivaling Beijing's???
Don't make me laugh.
(This coming from someone that has lived in Monterrey for 45 years of his life)





What Monterrey is, is the filthiest, nastiest, city in this hemisphere. The air qulity rivals Bejing's. Take my advice: avoid this shithole at all cost.

[Precocious One]

What Monterrey is, is the filthiest, nastiest, city in this hemisphere. The air qulity rivals Bejing's. Take my advice: avoid this shithole at all cost.It is, at times, unbearably hot(100F+/high humidity) with 90+ percent of the taxis without a/c. But the MP's offer incredible value(roughly 700 pesos tip(200p) inclusive). When I return this year during the continued and unprecendented ascent of this upcoming long, economic global contraction, I am anticipating $700 peso-one and a half hour salidas with 7 and 8's. But then again, that's the way it's going to be in most parts of MX if it is already not such. Declining discretionary spending in MX is in the beginning process of a very disturbing trend. www.csmonitor.com/2009/0128/p25s20-woam.html

The economist's estimate of only a .05 percent drop in 2009 in U.S. money remittances for the Michoacan state is an absolute fuc_ing pipe dream.

Regardless, I actually love Monterrey(no problems with air quality/some traffic)and would highly recommend it to anyone looking for good sex at a great value.

[Strike 69]

What Monterrey is, is the filthiest, nastiest, city in this hemisphere. The air qulity rivals Bejing's. Take my advice: avoid this shithole at all cost.I have lived in both cities Monterrey and Guadalajara and I must say quality of life it is better in Monterrey and women (and people in general) are so much friendly and don't have that nasty double moral standard present in Guadalajara's Tapatias.

[Betomty]

Monterrey is a very nice and friendly city.


What Monterrey is, is the filthiest, nastiest, city in this hemisphere. The air qulity rivals Bejing's. Take my advice: avoid this shithole at all cost.

[Member #4258]

Monterrey is a very nice and friendly city.

Guys,......guys.........
I've been to Monterrey 10+ times and it's not that bad. It's in a valley between 2 mountain ranges and if the wind isn't moving the smog can accumulate and the mountians can look a little hazy. Also, lots of vehicles seem to be on the road that would never pass any sort of emissions testing in the US. One thing I noticed was on the north end and especially by the Cemex plants the place can get pretty dusty when there hasn't been rain for a while. You seem to get a grit in your mouth that only Tecate, Modelo or Patron will wash away. You will however, entirely forget the poor air quality when you are in in Bahamas (or Harems) and you are about to shoot your 2nd load into a flaca linda chica's boca.
Hoser

[Member #3453]

Those that really know Monterrey, know it for it's finer points, and realize that its finer points out weight its minor detractors by a huge margin.




What Monterrey is, is the filthiest, nastiest, city in this hemisphere. The air qulity rivals Bejing's. Take my advice: avoid this shithole at all cost.

[Member #4258]

It happened in Monterrey
A long time ago
I met her in Monterrey
In old Mexico
Stars and steel guitars
And luscious lips as red as wine
Broke somebody's heart
And I'm afraid that it was mine
It happened in Monterrey
Without thinking twice
I left her and threw away the key to paradise
My indiscreet heart
Longs for the sweetheart
That I left in old Monterrey

[Albert Punter]

I only assume you have never been to Beijing otherwise you will know that Beijing is by far more polluted than Monterrey.
And what about Mexico City then ?
This is really comparable to Beijing.
And what about Sao Paulo ?
Air quality and traffic surely can rival with the worst.


What Monterrey is, is the filthiest, nastiest, city in this hemisphere. The air qulity rivals Bejing's. Take my advice: avoid this shithole at all cost.

[Albert Punter]

IMHO price is expensive not compared to China but compared to other Latin American destinations, where for same type of service you may pay 50%.
Anyhow, I accepted to pay just to make the experience. And it was worthwhile as service was excellent.
Surely in case you look for Miss Monterrey you don't choose her, but it is old story: service or look ?
Sometimes we select service .....

Enjoy Monterrey


Albert, Monterrey is not SEA, nor China, your mongering zone in the world.

Monterrey is an expensive city and being here you should have noticed that even today in the middle of a world crisis, Monterrey is still expensive and will be expensive.

And you went with Azul that charges 2000 pesos.. there are other escorts that charge way into the 3000 pesos range and beyond.

But anyway, Azul acomodates, she gave you a lot more that other escorts here don't do.

Never heard form other mongers get what Azul did to you for less or for more from other local escorts.

[Member #3453]

It correlates directly to an issue of "need," living standard, poverty, etc...Monterrey is not in the same category of "need" as some of the other venues, so the cost of mongering, and the shear numbers of girls that give into the prospect of hooking, dwarfs the quantity of selection in Monterrey compared to other venues. The higher cost is simply a matter of supply and demand, more girls, and less mongers in the other countries.

The other shoe has not even dropped yet to balance the greed and abuses of the financial markets. The trick will be to maintain your own financial stability as the rest of the World plunges even deeper into poverty, probably for at least the next 18 months. If you can maintain your own discretionary income to monger as the belt continues to tighten, you're likely to receive significant reductions in mongering cost, even in Monterrey.



IMHO price is expensive not compared to China but compared to other Latin American destinations, where for same type of service you may pay 50%.
Anyhow, I accepted to pay just to make the experience. And it was worthwhile as service was excellent.
Surely in case you look for Miss Monterrey you don't choose her, but it is old story: service or look ?
Sometimes we select service .....

Enjoy Monterrey

[Member #4258]

I've always travelled to Monterrey on business but I've considered for a short vacation. Overall, I think I can find enough to do to have a good time. Mostly relax in the daytime at the hotel, and get crazy at night. If Monterrey was that bad I wouldn't consider. As for air polution, many cities are worse.
Hoser

[Member #4258]

I've always travelled to Monterrey on business but I've considered for a short vacation. Overall, I think I can find enough to do to have a good time. Mostly relax in the daytime at the hotel, and get crazy at night. If Monterrey was that bad I wouldn't consider. As for air polution, many cities are worse.
Hoser

With the Peso at 14.5 I'm considering Monterrey.

Hoser

[Arbtrader]

Hey Amigomio. It's a NY friend from a long time ago. Looks like I'll be flying down soon to look at Cemex and Vitro. Would love to catch up. What's the number in your e-mail again?


Totally untrue, false and an open lie.

But you must be confusing Mexico City with Monterrey.

In Monterrey, pollution counts do not go over 100 as opposed to Mexico City where they go well into the 200's Imecas and some days, way beyond that.

So we'll leave this a a simple mistake coming from someone that has lived in Guadalajara for the last 6 years.

Monterrey's air quality rivaling Beijing's?

Don't make me laugh.

(This coming from someone that has lived in Monterrey for 45 years of his life)

[MonterreyDude]

Our good friend from NY is coming back... good.

Long time no see.




Hey Amigomio. It's a NY friend from a long time ago. Looks like I'll be flying down soon to look at Cemex and Vitro. Would love to catch up. What's the number in your e-mail again?

[El Cabron 007]

Hey there horney pervert…

Why is this board so dead? No one coming down anymore? I know I have not been down for over 3 months.

No, I am not writing to rub it in … well I am …

I am thinking of coming down 2 weeks from now if I can get away. I have been going to Tijuana at least twice a week lately. I met me a lovely honey who happens to be from the Monterrey area … yes Carlos, 2 hours away in Reynosa. I have been seeing her outside work. She skipped work a couple of time, given they were slow days, and we spend the evening and the night together. Just like I do in Monterrey. We dine, we go clubbing, then we go, well… you know …

A week ago, I took her to the Hong Kong club. She has never seen it and I thought it would be a blast. I knew a couple of girls there and had some join us. I wanted her to feel comfortable around her own. She doesn’t know it but that helped. She was having a blast … especially because the story there was that she is my girlfriend from Monterrey. She does not work in TJ and she worked at one of my hotels that I own in Monterrey… shshh…. They lie a lot more than this… I have stories to tell.

Anyways, this girl is wild. She’s a party animal yet she’s great company to hang with. She comes to me like a lost child. It’s kind a weird yet erotic. All the other girls I know are so hardened they hold me like a child … ha ha

That Sunday at Hong Kong, she was dancing for me at the 2nd level. There was a line of guys on the 1sr floor gazing at her and a few on our floor just frozen watching her dance. One of the club girls was with us and joined her for a dance. They play ‘Girls Gone Wild’ and I must say … Hong Kong went back to the British that night.

With all this fun at Tijuana, I am having a hard time planning a trip to Monterrey … She is there in Monterrey now for a couple of weeks and is expecting me to come down … but my schedule is not flexible enough. I will try to sneak down 1st week of March.

Carlos, I met one of our buddies at Adelita’s. He said you were coming to TJ. Dat true?

[MonterreyDude]

Yeah, our mutual friend Porker told me he bumped into you.

And yes, I was going to go, but turns out when I went onlined to get a ticket, there were no more cheap flights.

Had to cancel.



Hey there horney pervert…

Why is this board so dead? No one coming down anymore? I know I have not been down for over 3 months.

No, I am not writing to rub it in … well I am …

I am thinking of coming down 2 weeks from now if I can get away. I have been going to Tijuana at least twice a week lately. I met me a lovely honey who happens to be from the Monterrey area … yes Carlos, 2 hours away in Reynosa. I have been seeing her outside work. She skipped work a couple of time, given they were slow days, and we spend the evening and the night together. Just like I do in Monterrey. We dine, we go clubbing, then we go, well… you know …

A week ago, I took her to the Hong Kong club. She has never seen it and I thought it would be a blast. I knew a couple of girls there and had some join us. I wanted her to feel comfortable around her own. She doesn’t know it but that helped. She was having a blast … especially because the story there was that she is my girlfriend from Monterrey. She does not work in TJ and she worked at one of my hotels that I own in Monterrey… shshh…. They lie a lot more than this… I have stories to tell.

Anyways, this girl is wild. She’s a party animal yet she’s great company to hang with. She comes to me like a lost child. It’s kind a weird yet erotic. All the other girls I know are so hardened they hold me like a child … ha ha

That Sunday at Hong Kong, she was dancing for me at the 2nd level. There was a line of guys on the 1sr floor gazing at her and a few on our floor just frozen watching her dance. One of the club girls was with us and joined her for a dance. They play ‘Girls Gone Wild’ and I must say … Hong Kong went back to the British that night.

With all this fun at Tijuana, I am having a hard time planning a trip to Monterrey … She is there in Monterrey now for a couple of weeks and is expecting me to come down … but my schedule is not flexible enough. I will try to sneak down 1st week of March.

Carlos, I met one of our buddies at Adelita’s. He said you were coming to TJ. Dat true?

[Zygomatic]

It' a 2. 5 hour drive to the border from San Antonio and a couple hours to Monterrey on Bus from NL. I have only been to Monterrey once, met AmigoMio with another monger. I had a really good time and loved the girls. I have plenty of $ saved up and have been planning a long vacation. The more I think of it, the ore I think Mexico us where I should go. Since I hve only mongered in Monterrey, aside from border towns, and everything I needed there was in walking distance, I am thinking Monterrey for a vacation. I was wondering if there are nice places where I could rent by the week or by the month? I would like to stay under 800 for monthly rent. Has someone already does this? Amigomio, can you recommend a nice place where I could also do laundry?

[MonterreyDude]

Zygo, I sent you a PM with the solicited info.




It' a 2. 5 hour drive to the border from San Antonio and a couple hours to Monterrey on Bus from NL. I have only been to Monterrey once, met AmigoMio with another monger. I had a really good time and loved the girls. I have plenty of $ saved up and have been planning a long vacation. The more I think of it, the ore I think Mexico us where I should go. Since I hve only mongered in Monterrey, aside from border towns, and everything I needed there was in walking distance, I am thinking Monterrey for a vacation. I was wondering if there are nice places where I could rent by the week or by the month? I would like to stay under 800 for monthly rent. Has someone already does this? Amigomio, can you recommend a nice place where I could also do laundry?

[Marius 67]

I'll be visiting the city in May. The map I found here is awsome, last time I went the taxi only knew about the high end clubs. Now they will have no defense once I print out this map. Please let us fellow mongers know which hotels allow the chicas back. I stayed at the Plaza del arco express last time; but they gave me a small one-bed darkened room in the back. The service here in the USA is killing me (MP who say " hand only and don't touch me" asians)

I hate WACO

[MonterreyDude]

Marius, the only hotel that accepts girls is the Sheraton Ambassador.

Plaza del Arco, both hotels, still do, but right now it's a little uncofortable cause they are hosting the Federal Police forces.

And yes, you are right.
If you tell the taxi the adress you are going to, with map in hand, they will not be able to act stupid and take you to clubs where they get kickbacks.

And my google map is constantly being updated.





I'll be visiting the city in May. The map I found here is awsome, last time I went the taxi only knew about the high end clubs. Now they will have no defense once I print out this map. Please let us fellow mongers know which hotels allow the chicas back. I stayed at the Plaza del arco express last time; but they gave me a small one-bed darkened room in the back. The service here in the USA is killing me (MP who say " hand only and don't touch me" asians)

I hate WACO

[Marius 67]

Marius, the only hotel that accepts girls is the Sheraton Ambassador.

Plaza del Arco, both hotels, still do, but right now it's a little uncofortable cause they are hosting the Federal Police forces.

And yes, you are right.
If you tell the taxi the adress you are going to, with map in hand, they will not be able to act stupid and take you to clubs where they get kickbacks.

And my google map is constantly being updated.So only three hotels in all of monterrey..What about all those hotels on the maps.. and also the first time i went to Monterrey the Best Western on Madero was great..can you still take girls there? and how much is the Sheraton per night it sounds pricey. I am looking foward to going and getting out of bible belt Central Texas.

Thanks friends

[MonterreyDude]

Sheraton is over 100 dlls per night.

The Best Western Maderp used to allow girls till an idiot brought in an internet girl he met via de web and turned out to be jail bait.
That was it.

Days Inn Madero allows girls, too.
It's located 2 blocks away from the Plaza del Arco Madero.
And should be like 55 dlls per night, more or less.
Don't remember the rate.

And I am not kidding, hotels here do not accept female visitors.




So only three hotels in all of monterrey..What about all those hotels on the maps.. and also the first time i went to Monterrey the Best Western on Madero was great..can you still take girls there? and how much is the Sheraton per night it sounds pricey. I am looking foward to going and getting out of bible belt Central Texas.

Thanks friends

[Illini333]

Can someone give a breakdown of monterrey?? is it a good place to party?? are there a lot of good clubs for regular girls and also are there some good strip clubs?? how does it compare to TJ?? Thanks

[MonterreyDude]

First of all, Monterrey is nowhere comparable to TJ in all aspects.

Safer, bigger (quiet big), and all spread out.
Police will not hassel you at all.
Zero.
And not just 2 or 3 clubs... tons of clubs MPs.
And the girls are far better than what can be found at TJ.

But one thing is true, Monterrey is more expensive in all venues than Tijuana (hotels, restaurants).
Although proportionaly speaking, clubs are less expensive with more options, though all clubs work under regular norms, that is, almost everything is done within the clubs, no take outs, with some exeptions (some expensive, some cheap).

Monterrey a good place to party with local girls?
Are New York and LA good places to party?
Well maybe for locals (close circle of friends) as for no pro places Monterrey has an area called Barrio Antiguo where weekends you can party till the break of dawn.
But unfortunatly, way out of bounds for us local mongers.

Please check Links to Reports of Distinction
On the general thread of North Mexico.
First post has a link to may Monterrey Google map.

That will give you an idea of what Monterrey is.





Can someone give a breakdown of monterrey?? is it a good place to party?? are there a lot of good clubs for regular girls and also are there some good strip clubs?? how does it compare to TJ?? Thanks

[El Cabron 007]

Holas Cabrones.

No it is not. TJ and MTY are like 2 cities in 2 different countries separated by oceans. They are nothing alike.

HOWEVER, I am afraid I have fallen ... flat on my face in Tijuana. As I reported previously, I met the sweetest thing on earth in January and I have been seeing her more than once a week.

We spend 3 or 4 days together. She skips work and stays with me the entire time. Sounds familiar? She tells me she does not want money .... but I compensate her anwyas. Sounds familiar? I see in her many of the treats that intrigued me about the girls I loved in MTY. She is X-girl, S-Girl, Sluty, Sweet-P, Lady-J, Erika .. and even Dreadvany ... This girl is nothing like any of the girls I spent 5 years around. I have seen them come and go. I forgot many of their names. But this one was my first choice and it took me less than a nano second to fall for her. 20 years old and so full of life. I love watching the child in her trying to mature but only to fall back. She is a little girl who loves her daddy. This girl beats Monterrey hands down.

We go all over Tijuana. We go out hours from the city. Beautiful beaches and up scale hotels and resorts. Full of clubs. Those of us who know TJ as the red zone or Just Adalaita's have no idea what's out there. TJ is gorgeous.

Not to mislead the readers, this is not the norm in TJ. You pretty much go up the girl and ask her upstairs. When you are done with your business, she goes back to her post and may not even look at you again until the next day when you may have recharged and able to perform. The second she sense you are not taking her upstairs, she will excuse herself and go “NEXT.” As dry as it can get.
Salida is normal, although gazed at by everyone, in the mid range clubs like Infinito and Givenchy’s. I found jems and monsters in these clubs. I often find myself out at a club accompanied by 2 to 10 or more of those girls. If you go to Infinito or Prestige, ask the girls where the party is at and invite yourself (unless you stand out). Be careful, if you do stand out, re-think the after-hours activities.


Hey guys. Sorry I have not been keeping in touch. I am guilty and will try to make it down to Monterrey in the near future. I promise I will try. Maybe when I take her back to Monterrey to her high school. I hope you are all keeping out of trouble.

El Cabron

Que pasa Calabaza



First of all, Monterrey is nowhere comparable to TJ in all aspects.

[MonterreyDude]

Simply put, she is not in her native city.
You are dealing with a Monterrey girl in Tijuana.

That changes a lot a girl.

Same would be as if you met a girl from Acapulco in Monterrey, but you didn't cause those girls are running around with the young and restless of Monterrey.

And yes, you do owe us a vist.
Been absent for a while.. the girls keep asking for you.






Holas Cabrones.

No it is not. TJ and MTY are like 2 cities in 2 different countries separated by oceans. They are nothing alike.

HOWEVER, I am afraid I have fallen ... flat on my face in Tijuana. As I reported previously, I met the sweetest thing on earth in January and I have been seeing her more than once a week.

We spend 3 or 4 days together. She skips work and stays with me the entire time. Sounds familiar? She tells me she does not want money .... but I compensate her anwyas. Sounds familiar? I see in her many of the treats that intrigued me about the girls I loved in MTY. She is X-girl, S-Girl, Sluty, Sweet-P, Lady-J, Erika .. and even Dreadvany ... This girl is nothing like any of the girls I spent 5 years around. I have seen them come and go. I forgot many of their names. But this one was my first choice and it took me less than a nano second to fall for her. 20 years old and so full of life. I love watching the child in her trying to mature but only to fall back. She is a little girl who loves her daddy. This girl beats Monterrey hands down.

We go all over Tijuana. We go out hours from the city. Beautiful beaches and up scale hotels and resorts. Full of clubs. Those of us who know TJ as the red zone or Just Adalaita's have no idea what's out there. TJ is gorgeous.

Not to mislead the readers, this is not the norm in TJ. You pretty much go up the girl and ask her upstairs. When you are done with your business, she goes back to her post and may not even look at you again until the next day when you may have recharged and able to perform. The second she sense you are not taking her upstairs, she will excuse herself and go “NEXT.” As dry as it can get.
Salida is normal, although gazed at by everyone, in the mid range clubs like Infinito and Givenchy’s. I found jems and monsters in these clubs. I often find myself out at a club accompanied by 2 to 10 or more of those girls. If you go to Infinito or Prestige, ask the girls where the party is at and invite yourself (unless you stand out). Be careful, if you do stand out, re-think the after-hours activities.


Hey guys. Sorry I have not been keeping in touch. I am guilty and will try to make it down to Monterrey in the near future. I promise I will try. Maybe when I take her back to Monterrey to her high school. I hope you are all keeping out of trouble.

El Cabron

Que pasa Calabaza

[El Cabron 007]

Cabrone....Amigomio has a good point with the above comment. Perhaps the distinction IS that she is a Monterrey girl. Uhmmmm, interesting point "C."

And, to further illustrate what Amigomio says, you are missed...my girl tells me that your "P" girl has been asking "where is he?" She says "she thinks the "P" girl wants sexo, and misses you."

Yes, those two points keep coming to mind. The fact that she is a Monterrey girl ... and the fact that I am now a Bob. She is my G-girl.

I thought Sweet-P was retired. I have not spoken to her in ages. As a matter of fact, I have not spoken to her since I last saw her. But I do miss her a lot.

Yes Bob, this girl has brought me to my knees. I am afraid I am in too deep. She's got a hold on me. Everyone knows me as her boyfriend. From the clubs managers to the girls. I usually pick her up from her house and head to a nice Baja resort ($75/night) and we live it up. She now wants to meet my Monterrey girls ... and ... well ... we also go back to some of the clubs as well to kick back and enjoy the show. She gets approached by so many guys when she leaves for the bathroom. But she smiles and tells them that she is spoken for.

Send me your travel plans. I'll do my best.

Later kids ....

[MonterreyDude]

Too late to remind you El Cabron, but your P's birthday came and went.

Had to confort her, tears galore, since you were gone.

No really, did you at least call her on her birthday???

My fav is still the J girl at Infinito, P's gf.




Yes, those two points keep coming to mind. The fact that she is a Monterrey girl ... and the fact that I am now a Bob. She is my G-girl.

I thought Sweet-P was retired. I have not spoken to her in ages. As a matter of fact, I have not spoken to her since I last saw her. But I do miss her a lot.

Yes Bob, this girl has brought me to my knees. I am afraid I am in too deep. She's got a hold on me. Everyone knows me as her boyfriend. From the clubs managers to the girls. I usually pick her up from her house and head to a nice Baja resort ($75/night) and we live it up. She now wants to meet my Monterrey girls ... and ... well ... we also go back to some of the clubs as well to kick back and enjoy the show. She gets approached by so many guys when she leaves for the bathroom. But she smiles and tells them that she is spoken for.

Send me your travel plans. I'll do my best.

Later kids ....

[Member #3453]

Here is the test as to whether you have truly morphed into a "Bob," and have become a part of the fold...

Do you practice the Cabronish Strategies where your TJ girl is concerned, or do you truly see the merit of the "Bob Strategy," a distinctively different, often criticized, and typically misunderstood approach? Please elaborate...


Yes, those two points keep coming to mind. The fact that she is a Monterrey girl ... and the fact that I am now a Bob. She is my G-girl.

I thought Sweet-P was retired. I have not spoken to her in ages. As a matter of fact, I have not spoken to her since I last saw her. But I do miss her a lot.

Yes Bob, this girl has brought me to my knees. I am afraid I am in too deep. She's got a hold on me. Everyone knows me as her boyfriend. From the clubs managers to the girls. I usually pick her up from her house and head to a nice Baja resort ($75/night) and we live it up. She now wants to meet my Monterrey girls ... and ... well ... we also go back to some of the clubs as well to kick back and enjoy the show. She gets approached by so many guys when she leaves for the bathroom. But she smiles and tells them that she is spoken for.

Send me your travel plans. I'll do my best.

Later kids ....

[MonterreyDude]

Guys!!! Get a room!

This is the part UNspongebob does NOT get:

I visited yesterday Harem SC
Bumped into Itzel, a girl that used to work at Azul Tequila.
Sits with me, I buy her 2 drinks and she's pretty exited to sit with someone she at least saw at a distance at her former working place.

Meanwhile and at the same time am chatting am still casing the club and I see a girl that I like.
Presentation time, the girls have to go up on stage. New girl I like goes up too. I tell Itzel "you are mine now... when you finish, come with me again".
She stares at me and says "aren't you taking me up for a dance??".
I say later.

I grab the other girl up on stage right in front of her nose, take her up to a dance cubicle, and by the end of 6 dances (300 pesos) she's totally mine.

How do I know she is totally mine? Itzel wanders by with a customer and right in his face she says "am still waiting for you downstairs" (yes, Itzel is mine too by that time).

BUT, and this defines everything, my new girl says right up front: "he's no longer yours".
(To be honest, I just LOVE when they act that way)

Guys, we are talking no more than 15 minutes at Harem with 2 girls I never met nor dealt with and I have both in my pocket.

And Iam reading here "Bobs" and "Bob strategy"....!!!!

Like I said before: Guys, get a room!!!!




Here is the test as to whether you have truly morphed into a "Bob," and have become a part of the fold...

Do you practice the Cabronish Strategies where your TJ girl is concerned, or do you truly see the merit of the "Bob Strategy," a distinctively different, often criticized, and typically misunderstood approach? Please elaborate...

[Member #3453]

what are you doing in harem? we agreed recently that we both dislike that club due to the excessive loud music, and we both agreed it was not worthy of our time. you say you found two girls for fun in harem in less than 15 minutes. but, that is doable in all clubs.

no...what el cabrone and i are doing has no relationship to clubbing. there is a huge difference between "clubbing" and "girlfriending." they require two distinctly different strategies, and neither of them relate to one another. el cabrone and i are engaged in strategies for one set of outcomes (ie:girlfriending), and another strategy for another set of outcomes (ie: clubbing). there is no right or wrong, just different approaches for a different outcome.

when clubbing, yes, i agree with your cabronish tactics, and i agree that you can easily find a girl, or girls, in less than 15 minutes.

for the amusement of all, i will illustrate how easy it is to get into trouble clubbing...i will reveal one of my most recent embarrassments.

i was at azul tequilla, just up the road from harem. within a matter of 2 minutes, i was sitting with a decent girl, more on the raunchy side of nice, but a mediocre salida candidate none the less, probably more on account of personality than anything else. i think i bought her one drink, but decided that i wanted to see what else was walking around the place. so, i let her go, thinking that i could always call her back for more. within about 2 seconds of letting her go, i was approached by two girls at once. i am immediately cautious when getting double teamed, but...

they were all over me on the sofa, smothering me in every respect, "una copa???," "por favor," "porque no..." they hurled these phrases at me for probably at least ten minutes, all the while passionately devouring me in every sense of the word, both of them in my lap, grinding, both of them pushing the "resistence envelope" in every manner you can imagine.

i also noticed that the waiters in azul tequilla hover like vultures, not giving you time to even become acquainted with the girl that has just sat down, not even sufficient time to even know whether you have a desire to buy them drinks before they spring into action, making their little stupid hand signal, indicating whether you want to buy them a drink. how do you know if you want to buy them a drink if they're asking you if you want to buy the girl a drink before the girl's butt hits the top cushion of the sofa? i hate that...

but, as these girls devoured me, and the waiter hovered and made hand signals, and the girls begged, i was strong...i told them no, "no tengo dinero...", simultaneoulsy groping them in every which way.

finally, i just snapped...i decided to take them in the privados where i figured i would get better dividends from them than buying two drinks.

but....the two of them attempted to rob me in the privados. both of them with their hands in my pockets, removing my pants, austensibly for fun and games, but obviously so they could gain access to my pants pockets where they hoped i had more money.

and, of course, i knew their game from the very beginning, immediately upon entering the privados, easily sensing their amateurish attempts to pick my pockets. wise to their game, i attempted to gain advantage over them for my purposes, all the while aware of their true motivations, but willing to fend them off for the potential fun that could be had as they attempted to gain opportunity to clandestinely, or so they thought, pick my pockets. i decided that i would just play their game and see how much fun i could have, all the while watching their every move. unfortunately, trying to regulate two of them is somewhat difficult, and i began to lose my advantage.

they were mildly successful, but i was wise to their tactics the entire time, struggling to fight off their passionate distractions in an effort to hold onto the money i had stashed in my upper shirt pocket, probably about 150 pesos, not to mention the money i had stashed in my pants pockets, which mostly amounted to about 50 pesos in coins.

i recovered the coins from one of them at the scene of the crime, after i pried the money from her hands and she lost control of the coins, the coins falling behind the sofa. but as i attempted to pry the money from the fist of the one girl, the other girl escaped as i was struggling to recover whatever the one girl had in her possession, not really knowing which of them had the paper money in hand.

actually, had they known about the actual amounts of money i had hidden in areas where access is nearly impossible, they would have both had a heart attack. that was the area that i concentrated my focused attention on the entire time, as i raped them simultaneous to their attempts to relieve me of the relatively paltry sums of money i had in my pockets. so, i came out of it with relatively mild losses.

amigomio and i had just recently commented on our believing that azul tequilla had changed. it used to be known to be expensive, to have a strong dishonest ethic among waiters, and the selection of girls was always mediocre. so, for many years, i all but ignored azul tequilla, only visiting there maybe 5 times in my whole life, sometimes ignoring it for years at a time. but, lately, the selection does seem a little better, so i had decided to give it another chance.

i had all but decided that azul tequilla had changed, and become more "legit," that is until this most recent turn of events occurred. even when amigomio approached my waiter with what had occurred in an attempt to gain some kind of restitution, the waiter said he was powerless to assist us, which we believe means that these particular girls have some kind of protection, and operate in the club unchecked.

in some other clubs, and with the majority of girls i know in other clubs, not to mention the ethics of most managers that recognize us as regular clients, you can take two girls in the privados and not worry. but, beware of azul tequilla!!! those two girls in azul tequilla operate without restriction, and you have to assume that the entire club operates the same way, and probably with the blessing of the manager and waiters.


guys!!! get a room!

this is the part unspongebob does not get:

i visited yesterday harem sc
bumped into itzel, a girl that used to work at azul tequila.
sits with me, i buy her 2 drinks and she's pretty exited to sit with someone she at least saw at a distance at her former working place.

meanwhile and at the same time am chatting am still casing the club and i see a girl that i like.
presentation time, the girls have to go up on stage. new girl i like goes up too. i tell itzel "you are mine now... when you finish, come with me again".
she stares at me and says "aren't you taking me up for a dance??".
i say later.

i grab the other girl up on stage right in front of her nose, take her up to a dance cubicle, and by the end of 6 dances (300 pesos) she's totally mine.

how do i know she is totally mine? itzel wanders by with a customer and right in his face she says "am still waiting for you downstairs" (yes, itzel is mine too by that time).

but, and this defines everything, my new girl says right up front: "he's no longer yours".
(to be honest, i just love when they act that way)

guys, we are talking no more than 15 minutes at harem with 2 girls i never met nor dealt with and i have both in my pocket.

and iam reading here "bobs" and "bob strategy"....!!!!

like i said before: guys, get a room!!!!

[Doubt98]

Since UnspongeBob went off on Azul Tequila I wanted to add an experience with Partenon. I usually drop in there for a few minutes every time I am in Monterrey just to see if there is the proverbial "diamond." Last time I was swarmed worse than ever in any club. I had two girls, who weren't working as a pair, asking for a drink at the same time. While I was telling them no, 3 waiters brought girls over. Some multiple times. I was there less than 5 minutes and was asked, no lie, 10 times to buy a girl a drink. But here is the bad thing. The waiters started offering coke. 3 waiters while I was in the club and 1 outside as I was leaving. It wasn't scary but it seemed like a situation that could get out of hand real easy and real quick. I have always known they are crooks and that they will cheat you if you are not careful. Sometimes they have a girl or two that is worth a few minutes of your time. But it is not worth that.

[Precocious One]

Since UnspongeBob went off on Azul Tequila I wanted to add an experience with Partenon. I usually drop in there for a few minutes every time I am in Monterrey just to see if there is the proverbial "diamond." Last time I was swarmed worse than ever in any club. I had two girls, who weren't working as a pair, asking for a drink at the same time. While I was telling them no, 3 waiters brought girls over. Some multiple times. I was there less than 5 minutes and was asked, no lie, 10 times to buy a girl a drink. But here is the bad thing. The waiters started offering coke. 3 waiters while I was in the club and 1 outside as I was leaving. It wasn't scary but it seemed like a situation that could get out of hand real easy and real quick. I have always known they are crooks and that they will cheat you if you are not careful. Sometimes they have a girl or two that is worth a few minutes of your time. But it is not worth that.

Coke runs fairly rampant in the dance clubs. Often, there are guys snorting up right in front of you while you're using the men's room.

[Doubt98]

Coke runs fairly rampant in the dance clubs. Often, there are guys snorting up right in front of you while you're using the men's room.


I've seen that. But at least they are discreet enough to step into the men's room. Here it was as blatant as I have ever seen. Like I said. It was just a situation that could easily turn bad and the Gringo would get the worst of it. I think that most of the waiters and half the dancers were tweaking pretty bad. That is what I meant by an unstable situation. I'm out of my league in that environment.

[Super Gato]

...
Bumped into Itzel, a girl that used to work at Azul Tequila.

Sure Itzel isn't that uncommon of name, but would this Itzel be rather petite and younger looking? Very sweet. The last time I saw her she had long blonde extensions in her hair but she also will have short brown hair. This was mi corazon from Monterrey that would work in Papagayo in Nuevo Laredo a few years ago. Then I would run into her in Tijuana with other Monterrey girls. The last time I saw her there was in December at the world famous Adelita Bar. It would be interesting if she was the same girl. It is a small world and 'my' Itzel was from Monterrey.

[MonterreyDude]

Quoting a famous villian: "What was once briefly yours, is now mine".

No really, I doubt it very much that it's your Itzel.
As a matter of fact Itzel is quite common name between working girls and this Itzel had been working first at Pasarelas and next at Azul Tequila and I've been noticing her way into October up to present time.




Sure Itzel isn't that uncommon of name, but would this Itzel be rather petite and younger looking? Very sweet. The last time I saw her she had long blonde extensions in her hair but she also will have short brown hair. This was mi corazon from Monterrey that would work in Papagayo in Nuevo Laredo a few years ago. Then I would run into her in Tijuana with other Monterrey girls. The last time I saw her there was in December at the world famous Adelita Bar. It would be interesting if she was the same girl. It is a small world and 'my' Itzel was from Monterrey.

[Super Gato]

Quoting a famous villian: "What was once briefly yours, is now mine".

No really, I doubt it very much that it's your Itzel.
As a matter of fact Itzel is quite common name between working girls and this Itzel had been working first at Pasarelas and next at Azul Tequila and I've been noticing her way into October up to present time.

Yeah, a longshot. But since I did get surprised a few times by running into familiar girls while on the West Coast, I thought the world might be that small.

This gripe porcino is putting a big dent in my plans to go to MTY or TJ next weekend.

[Marius 67]

Is that swine flu having any effect on the bars yet. I'am going in two weeks.

So I wonder if the will be open. How does it look so far?

Stay safe everyone.

[MonterreyDude]

Yeah, need to wait a couple of weeks.

Went to Prestige to check out the afternoon girls.
Place was sad and empty.
All the girls were there wearing nothing but surgical masks... kinda funny though.




Yeah, a longshot. But since I did get surprised a few times by running into familiar girls while on the West Coast, I thought the world might be that small.

This gripe porcino is putting a big dent in my plans to go to MTY or TJ next weekend.

[Super Gato]

Yeah, need to wait a couple of weeks.

Went to Prestige to check out the afternoon girls.
Place was sad and empty.
All the girls were there wearing nothing but surgical masks... kinda funny though.

I found out that vivaAerbus no longer has the daily flight to Monterrey. Not sure when it was canceled. It used to be full of ladies from Monterrey coming to the outlets in San Marcos so I thought they'd keep it around. But now they just have nonstop flights to PVR and Cancun from Austin. Too bad, I didn't take advantage of that flight more while it was active. Now all of the flights from Austin to MTY are through Dallas, Houston. From San Antonio I can add Cd Mexico to that list.

I'm certain you, your familia and favorite girls will be just fine. I am worried about the economy in Mexico, especially in el DF.

[Member #3453]

I swore off using Viva Aerobus a few months ago because they abruptly changed their departure dates out of Austin. I already had my airline reservations made to connect with Viva Aerobus in Austin via American out of Dallas.

I think I forfeited my ticket on Viva Aerobus. If I was going to have to change my American flight to accommodate the new date with Viva, the cost of changing the flight with American made it more cost effective and easier just to fly into Monterrey directly from Dallas on American and to eat the Viva fare.

In addition, when you factor in the delays, usually about 1 hour late each time, as well as the small additional cost between the terminals in Austin using the shuttle, not to mention the time it takes to make that trek between terminals, the fare savings is not that impressive.

That settled it for me. I decided that I was no longer going to split connections between Airlines, especially on cut rate airlines. Viva Aerobus did not offer to refund my ticket when they changed their schedule, but would only offer me a new departure date at no additional charge to change my schedule.

They have lost my business as a result...It's simply not worth the hassle.

I just got a text a few hours ago...the girl says it's dead...there are no patrons in the clubs, and she is earning no money.

I am concerned for mis amigas. They can not earn a living if the clubs are empty of patrons due to the Swine Flu scare...And not only are there no patrons, some girls are skipping work, not wanting to expose themselves to their clients, ones they know only too well as taking little care of themselves under normal circumstances, much less during a theoretical pandemic.

One bright spot...the bus lines are offering a really cheap fare between NL and Monterrey right now...100 pesos one way. You can't beat it. It used to be at least 190 pesos each way just a few months ago. There's a bus war going on now, something to help offset the drug war I suppose.

Also, there is a brand new bus station in NL that houses Omnibus, Noreste, and one other bus line...just three lines in that building, not like before, where you have multiple lines in one building. Apparently, there are a couple other "new" bus stations in NL that house the other bus lines that were in the old bus station. The cost of a taxi from the new bus station (with Noreste) to the Bridge #1, where you can walk across to the USA, is only 50 pesos. And most recently, between NL and Monterrey, I was literally the only passenger on the bus. The driver invited me to sit up front, where there was a spectacular view of the open road, and we chatted for three hours all the way to Monterrey.


I found out that vivaAerbus no longer has the daily flight to Monterrey. Not sure when it was canceled. It used to be full of ladies from Monterrey coming to the outlets in San Marcos so I thought they'd keep it around. But now they just have nonstop flights to PVR and Cancun from Austin. Too bad, I didn't take advantage of that flight more while it was active. Now all of the flights from Austin to MTY are through Dallas, Houston. From San Antonio I can add Cd Mexico to that list.

I'm certain you, your familia and favorite girls will be just fine. I am worried about the economy in Mexico, especially in el DF.

[Super Gato]

in addition, when you factor in the delays, usually about 1 hour late each time, as well as the small additional cost between the terminals in austin using the shuttle, not to mention the time it takes to make that trek between terminals, the fare savings is not that impressive.

but i live in austin and for me driving to the aerobus terminal was easier plus the parking was closer and cheaper. i never had a problem with them and their ontime record was on par with pinche american airlines.

the only thing i didn't like was how none of the mexicans were versed in the liquid in a small baggy rule so boarding on the flight from mty to aus took longer to board because these ladies were trying to negotiate their way out of having to have their larger bottles of shampoo, lotion, perfume confirep001ed. the other thing i hated was the flight from mty-aus left monterrey at like 6am. the bright side is i could take that flight and be at work on time in the morning. but it made playing with the chicas the night before more difficult.



i am concerned for mis amigas. they can not earn a living if the clubs are empty of patrons due to the swine flu scare...and not only are there no patrons, some girls are skipping work, not wanting to expose themselves to their clients, ones they know only too well as taking little care of themselves under normal circumstances, much less during a theoretical pandemic.


i too am concerned for my amigas and amigos in mexico. monterrey doesn't seem as bad off as the df where the bars are all closed. and there are so many people in the city that just barely make it when things are going good. they don't have sick days or savings to draw on until things open again.



one bright spot...the bus lines are offering a really cheap fare between nl and monterrey right now...100 pesos one way. you can't beat it. it used to be at least 190 pesos each way just a few months ago. there's a bus war going on now, something to help offset the drug war i suppose.

also, there is a brand new bus station in nl that houses omnibus, noreste, and one other bus line...just three lines in that building, not like before, where you have multiple lines in one building. apparently, there are a couple other "new" bus stations in nl that house the other bus lines that were in the old bus station. the cost of a taxi from the new bus station (with noreste) to the bridge #1, where you can walk across to the usa, is only 50 pesos. and most recently, between nl and monterrey, i was literally the only passenger on the bus. the driver invited me to sit up front, where there was a spectacular view of the open road, and we chatted for three hours all the way to monterrey.

when i was in nl last time while we drove past a new bus station i said "another station... how many are there now?" and the driver said three or four. when the taxi driver loses count you know you have to many stations. when there was that primerplus line operating you could buy your ticket from a guy right across the street from the bridge and he'd pay for your taxi to the station. i am really impressed by the bus lines in mexico. if you spring the few extra pesos for ejecutivo or lujo it is more comfortable than flying.

[Member #3453]

I am really impressed by the bus lines in Mexico. If you spring the few extra pesos for ejecutivo or lujo it is more comfortable than flying.

Mexico has experienced almost a continuous onslaught of bad press over the last few years...drug wars, US backlash to undocumented aliens, and now the Swine Flu...Oh, I mean H1N1...got to be politically correct.

But, one thing is for DAMN SURE...Mexico literally has got the absolute best bus system, bar none...I wish the US were half as good as Mexico with respect to having cheap, comfortable, on-time transportation between cities, either via bus, or Train.

[Precocious One]

Round-trip transportation and lodging to Monterrey, MX,
pet certifications, FMT, MX car licensing and insurance - $1347.00 dollars
Six months prepaid apartment rental - $37,200 pesos
Monthly budget allocated for my beloved Monterrey Mexicanas - $18,000 pesos

That first ice-cold Tecate Light in a MX S/C after enduring six months in sex prison....priceless.


Had some really nice MP sessions this week despite the Swine Flu. One was with a 23-year-old hottie that provided DFK, attempted BBBJ, body-slide(sweat), PSE CG and finishing off with a COB. An absolute bargain for $400 pesos.

Another session was with a 19-year-old Amia Moretti-type hottie. 5'2", 95 lbs, perfect A-cups and a face that looked like she just left her high school sophomore home economics class. Awesome. DATY to completion, MISH, CG, covered 69 and a COB finish. What made this experience truly epic was the way that she hid her face with both of her hands as I shot five good squirts out of my 42-year-old body. Kind of like hiding from the boogey-man or something of that nature. Absolutely classic. I just could not stop laughing. $650 pesos.

The clubs are now all open (except Givenchy) after about a week of being closed due to the Government and the Swine Flu.

Established ISG members can PM me for the names and locations of the aforementioned sessions.

[Marius 67]

Round-trip transportation and lodging to Monterrey, MX, pet certifications, FMT, MX car licensing and insurance. $1347. 00 dollars Six months prepaid apartment rental. $37, 200 pesos Monthly budget allocated for my beloved Monterrey Mexicanas. $18, 000 pesos That first ice-cold Tecate Light in a MX S/C after enduring six months in sex prison. Priceless.

Had some really nice MP sessions this week despite the Swine Flu. One was with a 23-year-old hottie that provided DFK, attempted BBBJ, body-slide (sweat), PSE CG and finishing off with a COB. An absolute bargain for $400 pesos.

Another session was with a 19-year-old Amia Moretti-type hottie. 5'2", 95 lbs, perfect A-cups and a face that looked like she just left her high school sophomore home economics class. Awesome. DATY to completion, MISH, CG, covered 69 and a COB finish. What made this experience truly epic was the way that she hid her face with both of her hands as I shot five good squirts out of my 42-year-old body. Kind of like hiding from the boogey-man or something of that nature. Absolutely classic. I just could not stop laughing. $650 pesos.

The clubs are now all open (except Givenchy) after about a week of being closed due to the Government and the Swine Flu.

Established ISG members can PM me for the names and locations of the aforementioned sessions.Sir it would truly be criminal not to disclose this place since I'll be going this coming Thursday. I'am a good upstanding citizen who was just c*ck teased all through nursing school. Please have some mercy and disclose this location friend.

[MonterreyDude]

By the sounds of it, and knowing Precocious it could be either Miroslava or Extravaganza.

But one thing Marius, I truely know Precocious in person and what works for him (he knows his way around Monterrey, knows the business and how it works) might not work for others.




Sir it would truly be criminal not to disclose this place since I'll be going this coming Thursday. I'am a good upstanding citizen who was just c*ck teased all through nursing school. Please have some mercy and disclose this location friend.

[Marius 67]

By the sounds of it, and knowing Precocious it could be either Miroslava or Extravaganza.

But one thing Marius, I truely know Precocious in person and what works for him (he knows his way around Monterrey, knows the business and how it works) might not work for others.Yeah. Knowing your way around Monterrey helps out alot. I've been there 3 times already so I cannot begin to comprehend what the city truly offers in that short period. One good thing is that I'am young, decent looking and can speak perfect spanish. The three times I've been there and girls have never turned me down on a salidad. I have to say though the girls at infinto are straight business and are kinda of hard. I can hardly contain my joy. I have zero luck here in the USA (even the fat ugly B*tches think they're too hot for me. Pfffttt) and even when going to the MP here; they give me a hard time. For example. Don't touch me, gloved HJ, bad attitudes. WTF cental Texas sucks. Give a guy a break. Being a nurse you'd think I'd get lucky ever once in a while but no. All I work with is angry old bitter women with short tempers that like to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off LOL. I've been really working out hard at Gold's gym to improve my stamina and skill for this trip. Kinda like rocky training for a fight.

The map posted here will also aide me in finding my way around. I didn't have the map last time so I was really blind and Taxi's only know of the expensive clubs. Thank you friends and please keep posting!

[Precocious One]

Sir it would truly be criminal not to disclose this place since I'll be going this coming Thursday. I'am a good upstanding citizen who was just c*ck teased all through nursing school. Please have some mercy and disclose this location friend.


You need to upgrade you membership so I can PM you the information that you requested. Give Jackson his $20.00 and I'll give you what you need.

By the way, I fuc_ed that Amia Moretti girl again today and I sucked on her perfect, pristine pus_y for at least 20 minutes straight until she finished.

Needless to say, it was quite yummy.

You know, 19-years-old and all.

[Precocious One]

But one thing Marius, I truely know Precocious in person and what works for him (he knows his way around Monterrey, knows the business and how it works) might not work for others.


Not true. I got fleeced today by one of those S/C girls. I swear, this Mexicana was sucking down the fichas like water even faster than if she was drowning in the Sea of Cortez.

Some things never change.

[MonterreyDude]

The era of the Givenchy clubs is over.

Last October they closed one of the Givenchy's after the killing of several soldiers and now the old and original Givenchy has been shut down.

And that's about it.

[El Cabron 007]

That probably means they will bring all the girls back to Infinito and maybe, unless he is back already, the old manager will return. I recall last time he was exiled to Givenchy's. What a punishment. He used to punish the Infinito girls by making them work there a couple nights. Although that worked out to my favor once when one waiter tipped me that X-girl was there. Had the time of my life right in front of her she-husband. They almost broke up that night.

That place was always deserted and full of not so pretty girls. Customers are not well groomed either.

I may come down August. Warn the locals.



The era of the Givenchy clubs is over.

Last October they closed one of the Givenchy's after the killing of several soldiers and now the old and original Givenchy has been shut down.

And that's about it.

[El Cabron 007]

You're a pervert ... ha ha ...

Man, that sounds so yummy.


By the way, I fuc_ed that Amia Moretti girl again today and I sucked on her perfect, pristine pus_y for at least 20 minutes straight until she finished.

Needless to say, it was quite yummy.

You know, 19-years-old and all.

[MonterreyDude]

Yes, you are right he is once again "el encargado".

And no, no old Givenchy girl is working at Infinito.
Mostly and it was my fault for not crossing the street, the girls just jumped to Tangalay.

And August... MMMmmm last thing I know, and what a coincidence evertime you come to Monterrey, clubs will be closed on August.

PS: Lady J is working at Infinito side by side with Sweet P, BUT LJ has gained some weight. Just one of the comments coming from one of my girls was "THAT worked at Obsession????"






That probably means they will bring all the girls back to Infinito and maybe, unless he is back already, the old manager will return. I recall last time he was exiled to Givenchy's. What a punishment. He used to punish the Infinito girls by making them work there a couple nights. Although that worked out to my favor once when one waiter tipped me that X-girl was there. Had the time of my life right in front of her she-husband. They almost broke up that night.

That place was always deserted and full of not so pretty girls. Customers are not well groomed either.

I may come down August. Warn the locals.

[El Cabron 007]

Amazing. When those two girls first met at my room, Sweet P was supposed to leave but she overstayed her welcome. You were there. You took a back seat expecting fireworks. When my afternoon girl, Lady J, arrived, Sweet P punished me, if you recall. Lady J rewarded me.

The 2nd time they met, again in my room, they got a long fine and discovered they had some friends in common.

The third time, I was invited to join them at club el Inter. How odd. There we ran into 5 girls from the Prestige. They all sat at my table and all were competing to win going back to the hotel with me for the night. They had their hands in my pants. This is not a SC. This is a club for the locals with private dancers, $1 a song. I left alone punishing Lady J to never talk to her again and grounding Sweet P.

Now they are both at Infinito. Weird. She has been gaining and losing weight. But she's hot either way.

Did Crunchy-S ever make it back or Sulty-S? Any news on X-girl?

You know it has been about 7 or 8 months since my last visit?

If you see Sweet-P, tell her I miss her. Heck, tell her I love her too.



Yes, you are right he is once again "el encardado".

And no, no old Givenchy girl is working at Infinito.
Mostly and it was my fault for not crossing the street, the girls just jumped to Tangalay.

And August... MMMmmm last thing I know, and what a coincidence evertime you come to Monterrey, clubs will be closed on August.

PS: Lady J is working at Infinito side by side with Sweet P, BUT LJ has gained some weight. Just one of the comments coming from one of my girls was "THAT worked at Obsession????"

[Precocious One]

After having a nice session at one of my preferred MP's and spending some time at one of the local S/C's, I headed on over to another casa de cita.

733 Articulo 123 is a MP in a residential neighborhood that is a typical non-descript MX house of concrete block construction with an abierto/cerrado sign located in the window. Two girls working at $250pesos/half hour. Chose a 27-year-old chica that went by the name of Maria, Consuela, Tania or one of those typical Mexicana names that ends with an "a". At this point, it escapes me and is hopefully erased from my memory. Followed her into a small 10x5 room with an adjacent shower and toilet. Concrete slab prison-style bed, no windows, no tv, no a/c, no nothing. A felonious ex-convict would feel uncomfortable here.

A total Third World environment.

Ball washing, light massage and covered F/S was all that I requested. An accomodating chica but I just could not get motivated surrounded by such filth and disparity. Busted a pathetically small load which ultimately amounted to a case of terrible sperm management.

Although the girl was somewhat amicable, I do not recommend this location.

[Member #3453]

Jarras did threaten the girls with exile to Givenchy when he needed leverage. But,the girls were much more afraid of the interim manager actually doing it for insignificant infractions. I always got along fine with the interim manager, but he was no nonsense where the girls were concerned. Glad to hear that Jarras is back.


Yes, you are right he is once again "el encardado".

And no, no old Givenchy girl is working at Infinito.
Mostly and it was my fault for not crossing the street, the girls just jumped to Tangalay.

And August... MMMmmm last thing I know, and what a coincidence evertime you come to Monterrey, clubs will be closed on August.

PS: Lady J is working at Infinito side by side with Sweet P, BUT LJ has gained some weight. Just one of the comments coming from one of my girls was "THAT worked at Obsession????"

[MonterreyDude]

You missed Sweet P's birthday.
Kept asking for you.

Lady J... well she did gain weight, but didn't go into her "lose wieght" cycle, just the gain more weight one.

I don't know who crunchy is, but X is back and still pissed off at you.





Amazing. When those two girls first met at my room, Sweet P was supposed to leave but she overstayed her welcome. You were there. You took a back seat expecting fireworks. When my afternoon girl, Lady J, arrived, Sweet P punished me, if you recall. Lady J rewarded me.

The 2nd time they met, again in my room, they got a long fine and discovered they had some friends in common.

The third time, I was invited to join them at club el Inter. How odd. There we ran into 5 girls from the Prestige. They all sat at my table and all were competing to win going back to the hotel with me for the night. They had their hands in my pants. This is not a SC. This is a club for the locals with private dancers, $1 a song. I left alone punishing Lady J to never talk to her again and grounding Sweet P.

Now they are both at Infinito. Weird. She has been gaining and losing weight. But she's hot either way.

Did Crunchy-S ever make it back or Sulty-S? Any news on X-girl?

You know it has been about 7 or 8 months since my last visit?

If you see Sweet-P, tell her I miss her. Heck, tell her I love her too.

[Precocious One]

Had some really nice sessions this week at some new locations with two that where notable. The first was with a Veronique Vega-type girl. 22-years-old, 5'2", 110 pounds with perfect, perky A-cups. Light massage, DFK, ball-washing, CBJ, CG(GFE to completion), more ball-washing, attempted bbbj to a reverse spoon-DFK COB finish. Great service. 600 pesos. Both times I received GFE from this service provider and in all probability she is not PSE(CIM, French Besos Negros) material. Nevertheless, a very nice girl that I highly recommend.

Another session was with a childless 24-year-old. Relaxation massage, DFK, tongue-bath, attempted BBBJ, CG, MISH body-slide(sweat-induced), ball-washing, Besos Negros and a COB finish. 600 pesos.

What was great about this particular session, even though I could not get her to finish with me(GFE), was the sweat. In the US, a body-slide is an upsell. But if you can get her to sweat by not turning on the A/C, you can get it here in MX for no additional charge. The body-slide has now become one of my favorite activities second only to 69(although I absolutely love it, performing the DATY is very rare for me with a SP). 600 pesos.

After 10 sessions here in Monterrey, BBBJ's(I do not like to partake in this particular activity due to the perceived health risks) have been attempted at about an 80 percent rate.

For this reason, I have given up on a previous policy of mine of not participating in DFK once a BBBJ has been attempted on myself. Fu_k it. It is what it is and I need the DFK.

Established ISG members can PM me for the names and locations of the aforementioned sessions.

[Precocious One]

Versace MP is now down to $750 pesos from $900 pesos last year. Nice.

Doubt98-
I sent you a PM for your requests. Let me know if you don't receive it.

Happy mongering.

[El Cabron 007]

You guys will not, in a million years, believe what happened last night. No way no how ...

OK. The deal is, you need to promise that this report will not leak into the girls. I promised I would not tell anyone. Not even Amigo.

So here it goes ... I take my Tijuana HB GF to an upscale club. Of course it was deserted but we still had fun. There, I tell the little lady ... "Imagine if a girl in a club I have never been into yells out my name "Cabron ".." That would be so random. Of course, it has happened before so it is nothing new to me.

We then decided to hit Hong Kong club. We have been going there so regularly, she got in trouble with her work because they think she works there. She had to rush to the bathroom so she ran into the club while I was still paying the cab fare.

As I entered, I see a girl talking to someone with her back to me. I think to myself “something about this body” .... So I started to walk towards her. She turns around and I see her face. At that point, I said to myself "I know this girl. But who is she?" Our eyes locked into each other’s, her eyes opened wide and a huge smile broke out. She opens her arms and was just about to scream my name. OMG .. OMG .. OMG

Have you guessed?

Turns out, my GF noticed her too although she was rushing to the bathroom. She thought, too, this girl has something to do with El Cabron. I better hurry up and get back to him. She was a little too late.

[Precocious One]

Thank you all for your information, you kept the loses to a minimum. I spent most of the time in the SCs by Tangalay. Fun was to be found in most of the larger clubs, but if I only had time for one it would have been Tangalay with a close second being Givenchy I was not a fan of Infineto as it is too dark and too business like. I guess if I was younger and had better eyes, thought less with my big head then it might be different there were good looking girls there.

WARNING

I was had at the Partenon, they use the bad light to do a slight of hand trick with the money, if you hand them a 200 bill they will palm it and hand you a 20 and say that is not enough. Be Warned. These are bad guys. I called the second guy on it but I had lost about 400 before I caught on. This place does not have the quality of girls found at the others mentioned so there is really no reason to be in there other than the private dances are in a better area (a private room which cost the same as the public fuck areas in the other bars, that is if you are not being had)

I did go to Marcella MP, a decent time but kind of business like. I guess I got spoiled in Peru where for the same money you get a steam room and a bath with your beauty of the hour, Lima is great.

All in all I had a great time and look forward to the return.

FL Wingman



After spending some quality time at my preferred S/C last night and obtaining some good value(bought a girl two fichas in exchange for non-stop DFK for one hour), I headed on over to the Partenon.

This play has changed for the better.

Whenever entering a S/C in MX, my normal practice is to go directly to the bar to purchase my drinks as the bartenders have never tried to steal from me. However, one of the waiters blocked my path so I elected to give him a 100 peso note to which he quickly converted into a 20 peso note in a slight of hand trick accompanied with a perplexed look.

"veinte-cinco pesos por cerveza"

Yeah. Right.

Now, I have somewhat progressed from passable to conversational Spanish as I attend weekly classes in the US. And with this passable/conversational Spanish that I possess, I looked at him, told him that I lived here and to give me back my fuc_ing ochenta pesos change.

"Ahora-fuc_ing-mismo"

To which he quickly complied. After he scurried off to find his next victim to perform his magic trick on, I surveyed my surroundings and quickly realized that this club is now essentially Givenchys. Some serious hotties here of which I purchased fichas for two whom quickly offered themselves up for 500-600 pesos salidas. No BS, no games and straight to the point. Two drinks for two phone numbers. Nice.

I recommend The Partenon as this club is nothing like it was just six months ago.

[El Cabron 007]

you guys will not, in a million years, believe what happened last night. no way no how ...

.... into each other’s, her eyes opened wide and a huge smile broke out. she opens her arms and was just about to scream my name. omg .. omg .. omg


it was x-girl.

remember, no word to any of the girls … although i am sure now the entire population of monterrey knows of this adventure … wait and see.

what happened next? oh man ... hell brook loose.

my gf returned to find me entangled with x-girl. i jumped up in excitement as to tell her how happy i was to see an old friend. she acted like she bought into it but later i learned she was just starting to dig my grave.

she called on 2 of my girls that show knows of to set with her. she moved from my seat to let me be with x-girl. she started drinking like a fish and ordering drinks for the other girls. i should've kept an eye on her but i was too wrapped up in x-girl.

she finally tells me that she is getting jealous and a little angry. so poor x-girl, and for the 3rd time, left on my request. the first time was when i was when i took her salida for the first time. of course sweet-p tagged along. at the room, sweet-p played her "i am sad" game and i sent x-girl home with just a little foreplay. the second time was when show showed up uninvited with her lunch-to-go. she wanted to eat with me and mr. l. half way through her lunch, i asked her to leave because i was expecting lady-j. she got up and left without finishing her lunch. mr. l. took care of the rest of her breadcake.

so we are now alone. i sned all the other girls away. we had our fun and decided to head back.

in the cab and back at the room, she was drunk and she flipped… and i mean sshheee fllliipppeeddd.

5:30 am and 1.5 hours of heated argument and her breaking things while me thinking what the hell did i get myself into, the hotel security arrived. the neighbors are complaining about the noise and asked if there were a problem... i gave her the ultimatum. she either shuts the hell up and not even cry or get the fluck out of my room. of course i did not count how many times she called for a taxi threatening to leave. i ddi not stop her. but this time, i grabbed her hard and kicked her out. she begged to stays and promised to behave. i held her tight until she fell asleep.

morning came and she was back to her senses. she claimed she understood that i ran into an old friend and the excitement was natural. she understood x-girl is in town alone and was, too, pleased to see a familiar face. she was well behaved and we did not even the leave the room until the next day.

she broke her 2 cell phones and her electronic gadget. she messed up the room. i hid my camera and other stuff from her ... what did i get myself into?

now i am definitely rethinking my monterrey trip with her. she could go crazy on me without notice. although she is thinking of trying out the mile-high club. if she was this nuts with 1 monterrey girl, how will she react to 10 of them when we gather and hit the clubs? monica and lady-j alone will not leave her room in my pants. sweet-p will claim me without regards to her feelings as she did last time x-girl showed up at el info. she squeezed herself between us and could not be any clearer.

a little while ago, she was ready to leave and asked me to drop her off at her house on my way back. when i old i was not leaving yet, oh man, her eyes flared up again and i could see her thinking "x-girl". i pickup my slipper and acted like i was going to give her a good spanking. that worked. she sat down and behaved. i went up to the hotel lounge and got us breakfast. she ate and left ... but not without asking me again about what i am going to do while she was gone. of course i shut her up and ordered her to smile.

a final sweet good-bye kiss and she was in the taxi on her way.

2 girls in front of the hotel waiting for their valet ride were looking at me with a wicked smile ... i wonder what they were thinking.

[MonterreyDude]

i told elcabron via pm that he is in trouble due to the fact that monterrey gives x's home turf advantage.

and, this i didn't tell him, i will never ever allow a girl to do theatricals like she did to elcabron.

it's out the door forever if a girl dares do that to me.
i don't care if she is my #1 favorite, i will never ever subject myself to such a humilliating position just because she believes she owns me.

key word: humilliating

never ever.





it was x-girl.

remember, no word to any of the girls … although i am sure now the entire population of monterrey knows of this adventure … wait and see.

what happened next? oh man ... hell brook loose.

my gf returned to find me entangled with x-girl. i jumped up in excitement as to tell her how happy i was to see an old friend. she acted like she bought into it but later i learned she was just starting to dig my grave.

she called on 2 of my girls that show knows of to set with her. she moved from my seat to let me be with x-girl. she started drinking like a fish and ordering drinks for the other girls. i should've kept an eye on her but i was too wrapped up in x-girl.

she finally tells me that she is getting jealous and a little angry. so poor x-girl, and for the 3rd time, left on my request. the first time was when i was when i took her salida for the first time. of course sweet-p tagged along. at the room, sweet-p played her "i am sad" game and i sent x-girl home with just a little foreplay. the second time was when show showed up uninvited with her lunch-to-go. she wanted to eat with me and mr. l. half way through her lunch, i asked her to leave because i was expecting lady-j. she got up and left without finishing her lunch. mr. l. took care of the rest of her breadcake.

so we are now alone. i sned all the other girls away. we had our fun and decided to head back.

in the cab and back at the room, she was drunk and she flipped… and i mean sshheee fllliipppeeddd.

5:30 am and 1.5 hours of heated argument and her breaking things while me thinking what the hell did i get myself into, the hotel security arrived. the neighbors are complaining about the noise and asked if there were a problem... i gave her the ultimatum. she either shuts the hell up and not even cry or get the fluck out of my room. of course i did not count how many times she called for a taxi threatening to leave. i ddi not stop her. but this time, i grabbed her hard and kicked her out. she begged to stays and promised to behave. i held her tight until she fell asleep.

morning came and she was back to her senses. she claimed she understood that i ran into an old friend and the excitement was natural. she understood x-girl is in town alone and was, too, pleased to see a familiar face. she was well behaved and we did not even the leave the room until the next day.

she broke her 2 cell phones and her electronic gadget. she messed up the room. i hid my camera and other stuff from her ... what did i get myself into?

now i am definitely rethinking my monterrey trip with her. she could go crazy on me without notice. although she is thinking of trying out the mile-high club. if she was this nuts with 1 monterrey girl, how will she react to 10 of them when we gather and hit the clubs? monica and lady-j alone will not leave her room in my pants. sweet-p will claim me without regards to her feelings as she did last time x-girl showed up at el info. she squeezed herself between us and could not be any clearer.

a little while ago, she was ready to leave and asked me to drop her off at her house on my way back. when i old i was not leaving yet, oh man, her eyes flared up again and i could see her thinking "x-girl". i pickup my slipper and acted like i was going to give her a good spanking. that worked. she sat down and behaved. i went up to the hotel lounge and got us breakfast. she ate and left ... but not without asking me again about what i am going to do while she was gone. of course i shut her up and ordered her to smile.

a final sweet good-bye kiss and she was in the taxi on her way.

2 girls in front of the hotel waiting for their valet ride were looking at me with a wicked smile ... i wonder what they were thinking.

[Marius 67]

Round-trip transportation and lodging to Monterrey, MX, pet certifications, FMT, MX car licensing and insurance. $1347. 00 dollars Six months prepaid apartment rental. $37, 200 pesos Monthly budget allocated for my beloved Monterrey Mexicanas. $18, 000 pesos That first ice-cold Tecate Light in a MX S/C after enduring six months in sex prison. Priceless.

Had some really nice MP sessions this week despite the Swine Flu. One was with a 23-year-old hottie that provided DFK, attempted BBBJ, body-slide (sweat), PSE CG and finishing off with a COB. An absolute bargain for $400 pesos.

Another session was with a 19-year-old Amia Moretti-type hottie. 5'2", 95 lbs, perfect A-cups and a face that looked like she just left her high school sophomore home economics class. Awesome. DATY to completion, MISH, CG, covered 69 and a COB finish. What made this experience truly epic was the way that she hid her face with both of her hands as I shot five good squirts out of my 42-year-old body. Kind of like hiding from the boogey-man or something of that nature. Absolutely classic. I just could not stop laughing. $650 pesos.

The clubs are now all open (except Givenchy) after about a week of being closed due to the Government and the Swine Flu.

Established ISG members can PM me for the names and locations of the aforementioned sessions.You are not Lying dude. I just got back from Mty and that girl did look like she just got out of home economics. I only got charged 450 pesos haahahah. It was kinda of sad hearing her story. Apparently there is some Chinese guy that comes in on a daily basis and makes her lick his asshol* and she is thinking about quiting the place. What an evil Bast*rd. I went to most of the MP reported here. It is truly unbelievable what 500-1000 pesos can get you here. BTW I was turned down for the first time for a salida at Harems by this blondie with a smoking body. But I have a better story. I went to walmart in Mty due to my luggage being lost at the airport and was able to pick up this hottie that was working for walmart displaying some shampoos for 800 pesos 3hrs. I could not believe how easy it was. Is the whole damn city for sale or WTF? (I do speak fluent Spanish. So, . Children don't try this at home) I did salidas at Paserales. But most of the girls I got were from the outside reccomended by this taxi. He knew his wifes friend, relatives and other chicas that have regular jobs but do it on the side. He even told that he knew a guy who knows guy that can get you laid with some of the girls of the soccer cheerleader squad for $2500. I really did get lucky finding this taxi guy who had an insane connection to women. BTW, I felt kind of stupid for staying at the Plaza Del Arco Express (I was the only and last person staying in the building). Apparently they are closing because of the economic stress.

Please learn your spanish. It opens other worlds with locals.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[MonterreyDude]

"I could not believe how easy it was."

Damn Marius, so do I.

By the way, Plaza del Arco CLOSING???

The one and only last person there?
Please, they are housing right now the PFP, the Federal Police.
Kinda strange you didn't mention them, cause all guys that I know coming to town and staying at either Plaza del Arco or Plaza del Arco Express from other forums, either makes them feel strange or makes them twice as nervous thinking that they could be atacked at any moment.

By the way Marius, the soccer cheerleaders do not charge less than 4000 pesos because for starters, they do not see themselves as ho's.
As a matter of fact they do not solicit and their clients are very heavy duty high rollers from Monterrey that do not pay them in money, but in gifts.

And I never mention them at all during chats with my monger friends cause almost half of them are not of legal age.





You are not Lying dude. I just got back from Mty and that girl did look like she just got out of home economics. I only got charged 450 pesos haahahah. It was kinda of sad hearing her story. Apparently there is some Chinese guy that comes in on a daily basis and makes her lick his asshol* and she is thinking about quiting the place. What an evil Bast*rd. I went to most of the MP reported here. It is truly unbelievable what 500-1000 pesos can get you here. BTW I was turned down for the first time for a salida at Harems by this blondie with a smoking body. But I have a better story. I went to walmart in Mty due to my luggage being lost at the airport and was able to pick up this hottie that was working for walmart displaying some shampoos for 800 pesos 3hrs. I could not believe how easy it was. Is the whole damn city for sale or WTF? (I do speak fluent Spanish. So, . Children don't try this at home) I did salidas at Paserales. But most of the girls I got were from the outside reccomended by this taxi. He knew his wifes friend, relatives and other chicas that have regular jobs but do it on the side. He even told that he knew a guy who knows guy that can get you laid with some of the girls of the soccer cheerleader squad for $2500. I really did get lucky finding this taxi guy who had an insane connection to women. BTW, I felt kind of stupid for staying at the Plaza Del Arco Express (I was the only and last person staying in the building). Apparently they are closing because of the economic stress.

Please learn your spanish. It opens other worlds with locals.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Precocious One]

You are not Lying dude. I just got back from Mty and that girl did look like she just got out of home economics. I only got charged 450 pesos haahahah. It was kinda of sad hearing her story. Apparently there is some Chinese guy that comes in on a daily basis and makes her lick his asshol* and she is thinking about quiting the place. What an evil Bast*rd. I went to most of the MP reported here. It is truly unbelievable what 500-1000 pesos can get you here. BTW I was turned down for the first time for a salida at Harems by this blondie with a smoking body. But I have a better story. I went to walmart in Mty due to my luggage being lost at the airport and was able to pick up this hottie that was working for walmart displaying some shampoos for 800 pesos 3hrs. I could not believe how easy it was. Is the whole damn city for sale or WTF? (I do speak fluent Spanish. So, . Children don't try this at home) I did salidas at Paserales. But most of the girls I got were from the outside reccomended by this taxi. He knew his wifes friend, relatives and other chicas that have regular jobs but do it on the side. He even told that he knew a guy who knows guy that can get you laid with some of the girls of the soccer cheerleader squad for $2500. I really did get lucky finding this taxi guy who had an insane connection to women. BTW, I felt kind of stupid for staying at the Plaza Del Arco Express (I was the only and last person staying in the building). Apparently they are closing because of the economic stress.

Please learn your spanish. It opens other worlds with locals.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Cool. Glad you had fun and the ISG forum was of help. However, the prices that I quoted are with propinas. This is something I need to give as I demand service and I am a weekly client that lives here.

As for that Chinese guy that makes her lick his as_hole, there are some serious fu_ks here(MX Nationals) that read my reports and demand that the girls provide the same services they read on the forum disregarding the proper etiquette of YMMV. I lost two girls last year and now one this year and that is why I choose to only disclose names or locations in PM's and not on the forum(I would sincerely hope in the future that no one will try to guess the locations and openly disclose them on the forum). Some of these sick mutherfu_kers need to lay off the machisimo, chorizo or whatever the fu_k they're eating which makes them feel a need to exploit these girls and make a bad situation for them even worse.

And you are entirely correct in that the economic stress is directly affecting Monterrey. Most of the business owners I know of say that their revenues are down(YOY) about 30 percent. I would also assume that operating costs are up and profits(margins) are down as well.

Now is an absolute great time to be mongering in MX or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

[El Cabron 007]

I Told El Cabron via PM that he is in trouble due to the fact that Monterrey gives X's home turf advantage.

And, this I didn't tell him, I will never ever allow a girl to do theatricals like she did to El Cabron.

It's out the door forever if a girl dares do that to me.
I don't care if she is my #1 favorite, I will never ever subject myself to such a humiliating position just because she believes she owns me.

Key word: Humiliating

Never ever.

You are correct and you also have forgotten about El Cabron. There was never a moment of humiliation. You forgot how you asked "How the hell did you manage Dreadvany at Infinito?" You know how any times I got X-girl back. You remember the potential blood baths you expected from Dreadvany. Then you walked in on me on to find me surrounded by all the girls ... including Dreadvany. She was a lamb.

Things were not going my way simply because I was afraid for my own self. I did not want to give her any reason to call her local gang. I did not want to leave marks on her. I was simply afraid for myself. I really am not the kind to hurt the girls although I kno well they will hurt me. And I gave her a chance. Then when I had it, I kicked her out. Sshe completely changed. She is a good girl now and knows her place .... scream once and you are out the door. She knows I have alternatives and she needs the money. I take good care of her and now I also kick the crap out of her. She's good ... she's really good. She is Dreadvany all over but loving like Sweet-P and Crunchy like Sandy. Slutty as Sol and care free as Julie.

She's good. I'm in full control. I am having the time of my life. But I am watching my back. And X-Girl will not be in Monterrey. She's a hit at HK.

There was never a moment of humiliation. Frustration and pulling my hair? Yes. But never humiliation. She will tell you stories that you are well familar with. Stories you, my good friend, need to lrean from the experts ... :). Right Bob?

[El Cabron 007]

... there are some serious fu_ks here(MX Nationals) that read my reports and demand that the girls provide the same services they read on the forum disregarding the proper etiquette of YMMV. I lost two girls last year and now one this year and that is why I choose to only disclose names or locations in PM's and not on the forum

Funny, we were questioned many times about why we used code names for the girls ...

Now the readers know the rest of the story. Good report Mr. Q.

[MonterreyDude]

Personally, I loved this part: "there are some serious fu_ks here(MX Nationals) that read my reports"

Love the MX Nationals part.
"Serious fu_ks" must be exclusive to us locals.

From local experience and being there that asides from my Yahoo Group there are 3 more Monterrey forums that dabble in MPs, not to mention that there are at least 10 more spread around the country, I know as a fact that if the topic of an "internet group" becomes a subject of the chat with an MP girl, club girl or escort girl, it can only mean that someone before hand has passed priviliged information to said girl and that is not exclusive of us "serious fu_ks here"

Me as a "serious fu_k" have never, ever told the girls about this, local or other international forum.

Not even to my closest GFs.

But I have been witness to well bred gentlemen from the US (as opposed to "serious fu_ks here") come in to Infinito with a printed page of this forum asking for a particular girl reviewed here.
(ElCabron and me were witness to this as told by "el Encargado" at Infinito)

Precocious, for every poster here, there are tens of lurkers following advice.
Some with silent gratitude, some with "I give a sh*t" attitude.

And then again, of course, us "serious fu_ks here" are to blame.








Funny, we were questioned many times about why we used code names for the girls ...

Now the readers know the rest of the story. Good report Mr. Q.

[Precocious One]

Personally, I loved this part: "there are some serious fu_ks here(MX Nationals) that read my reports"

Love the MX Nationals part.
"Serious fu_ks" must be exclusive to us locals.

From local experience and being there that asides from my Yahoo Group there are 3 more Monterrey forums that dabble in MPs, not to mention that there are at least 10 more spread around the country, I know as a fact that if the topic of an "internet group" becomes a subject of the chat with an MP girl, club girl or escort girl, it can only mean that someone before hand has passed priviliged information to said girl and that is not exclusive of us "serious fu_ks here"

Me as a "serious fu_k" have never, ever told the girls about this, local or other international forum.

Not even to my closest GFs.

But I have been witness to well bred gentlemen from the US (as opposed to "serious fu_ks here") come in to Infinito with a printed page of this forum asking for a particular girl reviewed here.
(ElCabron and me were witness to this as told by "el Encargado" at Infinito)

Precocious, for every poster here, there are tens of lurkers following advice.
Some with silent gratitude, some with "I give a sh*t" attitude.

And then again, of course, us "serious fu_ks here" are to blame.



some (sum) adjective

1. certain but not specified or known
2. of a certain unspecified quantity, degree, etc.




Now, if you want to personally include yourself in the "some" category of the "serious fu_ks here(MX Nationals)" sub-category, that is entirely your prerogative. It was certainly not my intent nor meant to be implied. But, since "you can find time for argueing with stop signs" as fellow ISG member Beavis once proclaimed on the WSG forum, berate me if you must.

When I was posting here last year at a somewhat prolific pace about my experiences in the MP's and what these girls offered in regards to services rendered, pricing and performance(you know, what the ISG forum is truly here for), I encountered some rather peculiar outcomes after some "fu_k(s)" started reading my posts. This is explained on post #1561 of this same thread. After shooting the sh_t with one of the owners at one of my preferred estalishments, he conveyed to me that he had 15-20 new clients the week after my positive review of his establishment on the ISG forum.

All Mexican Nationals.

Now coincidentally, around this same time period, I noticed that two girls that I was a client of(each at different locations) were not too happy with me. One, who proclaimed that she never, ever let clients DATY with her other than myself and another that would not perform French Besos Negros on anyone else(at the time, I put very little credence into this preferential treatment but now think otherwise) where the two in question. This came directly after I posted my experiences with them here on the ISG forum.

And this year, when another girl here proclaimed to me that she did not permit DATY with other clients but afforded me that luxury of which I posted on, suddenly and inexplicably became cold to me after her location was disclosed by you on this forum(post #1695; admittingly, I do not believe that you did this with malice or forethought), it was quite obvious to me what was happening. Using the theory of deductive reasoning, one could assume that some(of a certain unspecified quantity, degree, etc.) "fu_k(s)" are reading my reports and pressuring these girls into possibily doing services that they do not want to perform and in all likelihood using me and my posts as a crutch. That is the reason why I no longer post names and locations and will only give them to established ISG members in PM's.

Fellow ISG member El Cabron 007 clearly understood the gist of my post in a positive manner and took no negativity out of it, which you seem to have clearly elected to do. I suggest you re-read the post with an open mind as opposed to a closed one.

Now please...

Am I going to have to throw down another can of whoop-ass?

[Precocious One]

I had a very interesting day here in Monterrey after getting chastised and berated by resident monger, Amigomio.

I headed back over to a MP location that I had previously patronized last year across the street from Amnesia, a high-end S/C that I have never been in nor will ever visit. I do not remember the name of this MP, but as I made my way closer to the door I was quickly intercepted by a woman in the same courtyard directly across the way who proclaimed that that particular establishment was now closed.

How truly pathetic. It appears that I am no longer able to pass myself off as a normal citizen and that I now give off a physical presence of one which consists of sexual malfeasance and immorality...a true monger.

But that is entirely another story. As I made my way into her establishment, I was presented two doable girls at $500 pesos for a half hour. Now, I am a big DFK fan. So, I made sure that one particular girl was going to offer up the DFK before I relinquished my hard-earned $500 pesos. And once in the room, this girl had no problem offering the DFK.

That is for a price...

of Dos Cientos pesos.


Now being the experienced monger that I am, I know that when a girl does the up-sell, you fu_k them and leave. So, I graciously passed on the super-sized Coke and medium fries that she was offering and decided that I was going to sport-fu_k.

And she wasn't that bad(her name eludes me at this given moment). She allowed me to plow away for the entire session while every now and then asking me if I wanted the fries(DFK) or the super-sized Coke(ball washing).
All and all, not a bad session as she was somewhat attractive. However, I will not repeat at which I believe is Las Florecitas as I already work out four days a week and do not need any more sports in my life other than those that I watch on TV.

Now on my way home driving down Calle Simon Bolivar(a busy street similar to that of La Cienega in LA), I encountered something to truly marvel at. While stopped at an intersection one of the street vendors started to make her way to my car with a plethora of cookies for sale. As she got progressively closer, I noticed that this attractive girl was white. Not CDV(Colonia Del Valle) white, but Omaha, Nebraska white. Wearing what appeared to be a Dutch hat along with what appeared to be Dutch shoes(the pointy kind).

WTF?

I rolled down my window and she was indeed...Dutch!! Oh, this is absolutely fu_king classic. As I started to talk with her(she spoke fluent Spanish) the light changed and no less than four cars started honking in unison. As I sped off to catch up with the rest of traffic, I just had to go check this chick out. I flipped a bit_h(almost getting hit by a car and risking a ticket) in order to find out this hot chick's story. I flagged her down and met her in the Church's Chicken parking lot to which she proclaimed that she lives in Zacatecas(I think) with her Dutch BF and they come to Monterrey once a month to sell cookies. And not affiliated with any youth movement or church. Unbelievable.

A Dutch girl...

wearing a Dutch hat...

along with Dutch shoes....

selling cookies on a MX street corner.



I have now seen it all.



PS

I haven't tried the cookies yet. I'll keep you guys posted.

[MonterreyDude]

"Am I going to have to throw down another can of whoop-ass?"

You did?

Thing is that you posted in the sense of offending Mexican nationals.
That's why I felt offended too.

Let me point one thing Precocious.
Your most recent post complains that I gave out the locations of Extravagance and Miroslava on my post # 1695

And THEN you mention post # 1561.
On that same post you wrote the following and please, Iam quoting you right on the end:

"Sometimes I just cannot figure out this Monterrey thread. In Jackson's www.argentinaprivate.com/ forum, it is all about guys helping each other out(names,numbers,ratings,services rendered)."

There.
"Guys helping each other out"
So that is exactly what I did, I pointed out places (that exist already on my Google map) though I reserve the girl's names as it has been my strict policy for almost 10 years now.

Iam helping mongers as suggested by you yourself in post 1561.

Tell me Precocious, should I stop helping mongers?

Please set the record straight cause now Iam confused, this flip/flop thing... I don't get it.

Before your times Precocious, someone accused us, El Cabron, USB, me of trying to make Monterrey our private playground.

Well, that guy is gone, but in a way he made us change in the sense that we share as much information as possible without compromising the trust of some girls we favor.

Yes, there is collateral damage, but it comes with the territory.
You are a seasoned monger and I have posted this of you as someone that knows his way in Monterrey, and I repeat SEASONED MONGER, Precocious.

You must be able to navigate this in someway that it doesn't hurt you nor your mongering here in Monterrey, the same way it hasn't hurt me in mine at all.

By the way, you need to know one thing, I might opt not write about MPs, but I know every single MP in Monterrey.

From uber expensive Misses Diamante and Models, down right to the bottom of the barrel MP's around the corner of Villagran street, the "feos" plus the ones that advertise on the newspapers.
I've even checked the ones that advertise as "señoras guapas complacientes" that locate themselves on Lincoln ave, Ruiz Cortines or Madero way to the East side of the Avenue.
I've even been to Articulo 123 and the a famous house tended by mature ladies that stands less than a block around the corner on Carlos Salazar st.

And I know how they work, totally.
Just to let you know in case you think I stick only to SC's

So please, should I withold information from mongers or better yet, both you and me Precocious and the rest of guys, keep helping the mongers that come down to Monterrey?

I opt for helping.



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some (sum) adjective

1. certain but not specified or known
2. of a certain unspecified quantity, degree, etc.




Now, if you want to personally include yourself in the "some" category of the "serious fu_ks here(MX Nationals)" sub-category, that is entirely your prerogative. It was certainly not my intent nor meant to be implied. But, since "you can find time for argueing with stop signs" as fellow ISG member Beavis once proclaimed on the WSG forum, berate me if you must.

When I was posting here last year at a somewhat prolific pace about my experiences in the MP's and what these girls offered in regards to services rendered, pricing and performance(you know, what the ISG forum is truly here for), I encountered some rather peculiar outcomes after some "fu_k(s)" started reading my posts. This is explained on post #1561 of this same thread. After shooting the sh_t with one of the owners at one of my preferred estalishments, he conveyed to me that he had 15-20 new clients the week after my positive review of his establishment on the ISG forum.

All Mexican Nationals.

Now coincidentally, around this same time period, I noticed that two girls that I was a client of(each at different locations) were not too happy with me. One, who proclaimed that she never, ever let clients DATY with her other than myself and another that would not perform French Besos Negros on anyone else(at the time, I put very little credence into this preferential treatment but now think otherwise) where the two in question. This came directly after I posted my experiences with them here on the ISG forum.

And this year, when another girl here proclaimed to me that she did not permit DATY with other clients but afforded me that luxury of which I posted on, suddenly and inexplicably became cold to me after her location was disclosed by you on this forum(post #1695; admittingly, I do not believe that you did this with malice or forethought), it was quite obvious to me what was happening. Using the theory of deductive reasoning, one could assume that some(of a certain unspecified quantity, degree, etc.) "fu_k(s)" are reading my reports and pressuring these girls into possibily doing services that they do not want to perform and in all likelihood using me and my posts as a crutch. That is the reason why I no longer post names and locations and will only give them to established ISG members in PM's.

Fellow ISG member El Cabron 007 clearly understood the gist of my post in a positive manner and took no negativity out of it, which you seem to have clearly elected to do. I suggest you re-read the post with an open mind as opposed to a closed one.

Now please...

Am I going to have to throw down another can of whoop-ass?

[Precocious One]

"Am I going to have to throw down another can of whoop-ass?"

You did?

Thing is that you posted in the sense of offending Mexican nationals.
That's why I felt offended too.

Let me point one thing Precocious.
Your most recent post complains that I gave out the locations of Extravagance and Miroslava on my post # 1695

And THEN you mention post # 1561.
On that same post you wrote the following and please, Iam quoting you right on the end:

"Sometimes I just cannot figure out this Monterrey thread. In Jackson's www.argentinaprivate.com/ forum, it is all about guys helping each other out(names,numbers,ratings,services rendered)."

There.
"Guys helping each other out"
So that is exactly what I did, I pointed out places (that exist already on my Google map) though I reserve the girl's names as it has been my strict policy for almost 10 years now.

Iam helping mongers as suggested by you yourself in post 1561.

Tell me Precocious, should I stop helping mongers?

Please set the record straight cause now Iam confused, this flip/flop thing... I don't get it.

Before your times Precocious, someone accused us, El Cabron, USB, me of trying to make Monterrey our private playground.

Well, that guy is gone, but in a way he made us change in the sense that we share as much information as possible without compromising the trust of some girls we favor.

Yes, there is collateral damage, but it comes with the territory.
You are a seasoned monger and I have posted this of you as someone that knows his way in Monterrey, and I repeat SEASONED MONGER, Precocious.

You must be able to navigate this in someway that it doesn't hurt you nor your mongering here in Monterrey, the same way it hasn't hurt me in mine at all.

By the way, you need to know one thing, I might opt not write about MPs, but I know every single MP in Monterrey.

From uber expensive Misses Diamante and Models, down right to the bottom of the barrel MP's around the corner of Villagran street, the "feos" plus the ones that advertise on the newspapers.
I've even checked the ones that advertise as "señoras guapas complacientes" that locate themselves on Lincoln ave, Ruiz Cortines or Madero way to the East side of the Avenue.
I've even been to Articulo 123 and the a famous house tended by mature ladies that stands less than a block around the corner on Carlos Salazar st.

And I know how they work, totally.
Just to let you know in case you think I stick only to SC's

So please, should I withold information from mongers or better yet, both you and me Precocious and the rest of guys, keep helping the mongers that come down to Monterrey?

I opt for helping.



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I never offended all Mexican Nationals. I offended some Mexican Nationals. My guess, somewhere around five percent. The other ninety-five percent were impervious to my rant as they knew that they had no bearing on my unfortunate episodes here and in all likelihood adhere to the etiquette of YMMV. That was the reasoning behind my need to define the word "some" for certain Mexican Nationals who do not or choose not to understand basic English. Who knows, the Mexican National in question could have even been some sick Chinese fu_k who makes unwilling girls lick his as_hole.

"Guys helping each other out"

When Americans come to this board for advice, I rarely give it when it pertains to the S/C's as they are not my thing even though I have probably been inside of Monterrey S/C's more than both of your buddies...combined.

Now I could have easily referred guys, on this open and public forum, to a certain "G" girl, "X" girl or "P" girl as I have physically met these girls at the "I" place. But you see, that would be outright disrespectful to two contributors on this board in which my actions would be considered negligent...if not grossly negligent. And as you are well aware, I am not a disrespectful kind of guy. I would be helping one at the expense of another, which would simply be stupid.

You know, kind of like what just recently happened with Marius 67(we will probably never hear from this guy again) and myself(a guy who posts once a week with information that is informative to the board and who lives here for extended periods of time). Helping one at the expense of another(again, I do not believe that your actions were done with malice or forethought, simply an error in judgement for a lack of better word).

As for the can of whoop ass, we both know what I am talking about. I was disrespected here, twice, and was left with no choice but to defend myself which ultimately resulted in me having to throw down that serious can of whoop-ass.

[Marius 67]

I never offended all Mexican Nationals. I offended some Mexican Nationals. My guess, somewhere around five percent. The other ninety-five percent were impervious to my rant as they knew that they had no bearing on my unfortunate episodes here and in all likelihood adhere to the etiquette of YMMV. That was the reasoning behind my need to define the word "some" for certain Mexican Nationals who do not or choose not to understand basic English. Who knows, the Mexican National in question could have even been some sick Chinese fu_k who makes unwilling girls lick his as_hole.

"Guys helping each other out"

When Americans come to this board for advice, I rarely give it when it pertains to the S/C's as they are not my thing even though I have probably been inside of Monterrey S/C's more than both of your buddies...combined.

Now I could have easily referred guys, on this open and public forum, to a certain "G" girl, "X" girl or "P" girl as I have physically met these girls at the "I" place. But you see, that would be outright disrespectful to two contributors on this board in which my actions would be considered negligent...if not grossly negligent. And as you are well aware, I am not a disrespectful kind of guy. I would be helping one at the expense of another, which would simply be stupid.

You know, kind of like what just recently happened with Marius 67(we will probably never hear from this guy again) and myself(a guy who posts once a week with information that is informative to the board and who lives here for extended periods of time). Helping one at the expense of another(again, I do not believe that your actions were done with malice or forethought, simply an error in judgement for a lack of better word).

As for the can of whoop ass, we both know what I am talking about. I was disrespected here, twice, and was left with no choice but to defend myself which ultimately resulted in me having to throw down that serious can of whoop-ass.Well Sir,

I had a very limited time in MTY. And all the post here are to help us fellow mongers get more bang for the buck. We do not know how the China-man got the info for this MP. The women there told me that they advertise alot in the Newspapers. The Chinese man they told me about is actually a Chinese who speaks very little spanish and has very dirty smelly hair, . I always enjoy reading this forum and the reason for me being absent in the past was nursing school. I will go to Mty more in the future. I do not wish to start any conflict with my report. I don't know what all the fuss is about, . There are plenty of hotties in MTY. And if you know spanish new doors open. Plus the place you talk about has always had a high turn over rate. Hell. All of these places do. It is no one's territory.

[MonterreyDude]

Marius don't worry about causing conflicts here.

There are none that will affect your mongering here in Monterrey, which is the important part, that you get the mongering part right.

No conflict here will affect the MP or a SC business in Monterrey at all.

Marius, MPs in Mexico as a whole, can advertise openly in the newspapers and solicit customers via web too.

How the Chinese gentlemen got a hold of the MP, very easy.
Since he is not a local dude, must have been a taxi driver, which are paid a commision to take potential customers their way.

And the MPs do have one hell of a floating population. Girls move by the bushel from week to week and it's only a handful that stay loyal to the place, so it's a matter of a short span that a certain MP can be mentioned here as by itself be worthful of a visit.

Marius, if you want to try something different than the Plaza del Arco, it's worth taking a look at the Best Western Madero down Madero Ave.
Smaller and a bit more intimate, but maybe you'll like that it has a better internet connection than that offered at the PA.

You can check it out on the Best Westen Site.





Well Sir,

I had a very limited time in MTY. And all the post here are to help us fellow mongers get more bang for the buck. We do not know how the China-man got the info for this MP. The women there told me that they advertise alot in the Newspapers. The Chinese man they told me about is actually a Chinese who speaks very little spanish and has very dirty smelly hair, . I always enjoy reading this forum and the reason for me being absent in the past was nursing school. I will go to Mty more in the future. I do not wish to start any conflict with my report. I don't know what all the fuss is about, . There are plenty of hotties in MTY. And if you know spanish new doors open. Plus the place you talk about has always had a high turn over rate. Hell. All of these places do. It is no one's territory.

[Maxout]

After 18 months away, I return to Monterrey this week. Last time I had a great time at Infinitro with a girl named Barbie. I bumped into Carlos (Amigomio? ) and had a blast. Anyone know if Barbie still works there? Since my escape from the US is short and I will only be in town Wednesday nite, I want to make the most of it. Are there some clubs that are better than others during the week?

Monterrey is truely a great place to monger especially if you know a little spanish. I know very little, but enough to get around.

[MonterreyDude]

Hello Max.

Infinito might be good on a wednesday night between the afternoon and night shifts, or be that 9:00-11:00 pm

Tangalay right across the street from Infinito has gone up after both Givenchy closings.

But right now I cater both Harem and Casino (on oposite direction on Madero Ave).

Infinito might be a good place for the "best bang for a buck" thing, where 400 pesos can go a long way into a full service, but I like what both Harem and Casino offer right now.

Contrary to Infinito, 400 pesos at both places might just be enough to warm up things but the selection of girls is superior.




After 18 months away, I return to Monterrey this week. Last time I had a great time at Infinitro with a girl named Barbie. I bumped into Carlos (Amigomio? ) and had a blast. Anyone know if Barbie still works there? Since my escape from the US is short and I will only be in town Wednesday nite, I want to make the most of it. Are there some clubs that are better than others during the week?

Monterrey is truely a great place to monger especially if you know a little spanish. I know very little, but enough to get around.

[El Cabron 007]

Now I am not proud of this .. and I know this is not the TJ board .. but this is a prelude to a future report I will, hopefully, submit soon regarding how TJ and MTY are more similar than has been implied and reported by our fellow mongers .... so bare with me.

I arrive TJ Thursday night. Checked into my hotel and then started heading over to Hong Kong club. They were having a Spring Break party and a pickup truck with loud speakers was roaming the street promoting the event.

The pickup truck was painted with camouflage and had "Hong Kong" all over it. You could not mistake it for anything but a "Hong Kong Club" truck.

As I walked, the truck was stocking me (for lack of a better word)... what the hell? Until the driver rolls down the passenger side window and calls out my name .... Sh*&^t.


"Let me give you a ride" he says. DAMM... I am being stocked by the Hong Kong truck. "OK". I jumped in and covered my face to get out of the street now that everyone has seen me. He drove ever so slow and I kept hiding my face. Sh(*&t

Front door red carpet? Not even. They had a swimming pool inflated at the club entrance. Bad loud music playing from the truck ... and out comes yours truly. Anyone noticed? Hopefully not.

See you perverts next week.

[Albert Punter]

A friend told me Misses is a place where you can find good quality girls and I wanted to check.
Last Saturday I popped in and I was introduced to owner to whom I asked infos about service and rates.
Service is 1 hr, multiple pops, including CBJ + FS only.
Rates are 1600, 1800 or 2200 depending the girls.
I was showed a couple that were available. Surely young and nice, no doubt.
Honestly, on the expensive side I prefer LucesAzules agency which cost 1500 for 1 1/2 hr and includes BBBJ+CIM+COF+sometimes anal.

[Albert Punter]

It is a few months I had noticed her on the LucesAzules website and finally last week I had the chance to give a try.
In person she is even better than in the pics.
Service was good, maybe she is a little inexperienced but very willing to please. She reminded me a little the fresh young girls I had in Lima, Peru, thanks to David_33.
Some pics are posted in the appropriate thread.

Some stats:

age: 18
occupation: student
rate: 1500 pesos for 1 1/2 hr
height: cm 157 / 5.1 ft
weight: kg 40 / 88 lb
face: 8/10
hair: brown colour
body: 8/10
tits: 8/10
pussy: 6/10 very tight, lubricant needed
skin: 9/10
skills: 8/10
passion: 6/10
foreplay: 6/10
kissing: yes but very light
showering together: no, she declined
BBBJ: 9/10 (excellent balls liking)
CIM: yes !!!
swallowing: no
COF: yes !!!
AR: no
DATY: yes
FS: yes, various positions
ANAL: no
pictures: yes
repeat: yes, I did it already
webpage: http://www.lucesazules.com/386556.html

[Mextexman]

I have for the past 8-10 months been a "lurker", but have decided to participate for the benefit of the mongering community. One day I hope to have some cold cervezas con amigomio and elcabron. Went down to mty for a quick trip and as always took amigomio's advice. Arrived in mty around 9pm, took a taxi directly to el infinito, as always, crowded, plenty of babes, 7's-9's in my humble opinion. Tight skin and always wanting to do full service. I like the place because everyone knows what they are there for. No b/s. Decided to see the "gueras" at el casino per amigomio. It is tough going from a party atmosphere at el infinito to a very relaxed feeling at el casino. Took a pretty blond for some privados, and quickly was charged 240 pesos for 2 songs. Told the songkeeper here is 120 pesos see you later. No problem. Since I was alone w/no wingman, I drank mineral water only, waiter comes up to me and says the manager says I need to drink faster and alcohol. Told the waiter adios amigo. Took a cab to my favorite. El harem. Was disapoined amigo mio had not informed me they had expanded the place., now it it toooo nice. Used to be the girls would sit on top of you due to no space. No it like a miniture el casino. Still had a wonderful time. Girls are younger, easier to get along with, no hard sell. Fresh girls from gdl and merida. Thin spinners, good looking. Took a cab at 5 am, to bus station, back in the US for work at 9am. Hit and run. And as always. NEXT! Maybe one day we will have that cerveza.

[MacGyver22]

Albert,

I've been to Monterrey quite a few times, mostly hitting the clubs like El Infinito, Matualla, etc and the MPs. This agency looks very promising as a change of pace. Did you have any troubles scheduling with them? My Spanish is OK, not great. You seem to have some pretty good intel, love to hear more about Misses as well (and any other such places).

Thanks,

Mac


It is a few months I had noticed her on the LucesAzules website and finally last week I had the chance to give a try.

In person she is even better than in the pics.

Service was good, maybe she is a little inexperienced but very willing to please. She reminded me a little the fresh young girls I had in Lima, Peru, thanks to David_33.
Some pics are posted in the appropriate thread.

Some stats:

age: 18
occupation: student
rate: 1500 pesos for 1 1/2 hr
height: cm 157 / 5.1 ft
weight: kg 40 / 88 lb
face: 8/10
hair: brown colour
body: 8/10
tits: 8/10
pussy: 6/10 very tight, lubricant needed
skin: 9/10
skills: 8/10
passion: 6/10
foreplay: 6/10
kissing: yes but very light
showering together: no, she declined
BBBJ: 9/10 (excellent balls liking)
CIM: yes !!!
swallowing: no
COF: yes !!!
AR: no
DATY: yes
FS: yes, various positions
ANAL: no
pictures: yes
repeat: yes, I did it already
webpage: http://www.lucesazules.com/386556.html

[MonterreyDude]

Mac

Misses has it's web page:

http://www.missesdiamante.com.mx/

I can only tell you that they do sometimes have great girls, but rotation here between houses is big.

There are several other places that do not advertise like Regias and Models with girls that quote around 1000 up to 2000 pesos with instalations that are just superb.

But there are even smaller places like Extravagance

http://www.extravagancemassage.com

that for a modest price of 800 pesos offer great service with girls up to par as those offered by Luces Azules and Misses.

There are many options in Monterrey.
Yes, many.

Thing is that it is hit and miss here.
You need to go to all these places, check them out and then head to the one that has the girls you want.




Albert,

I've been to Monterrey quite a few times, mostly hitting the clubs like El Infinito, Matualla, etc and the MPs. This agency looks very promising as a change of pace. Did you have any troubles scheduling with them? My Spanish is OK, not great. You seem to have some pretty good intel, love to hear more about Misses as well (and any other such places).

Thanks,

Mac

[Money 69]

Well, not sure if its really hit the board. Supposedly according to http://www.elnorte.com/

the owner of Amnesia was murdered in front of a 7-11 along with a witness.


Anyone have any more info???

[MonterreyDude]

Yes he was.

The other guy was just an innocent bystander.

2 other guys were also injured, hurt but stable




Well, not sure if its really hit the board. Supposedly according to http://www.elnorte.com/

the owner of Amnesia was murdered in front of a 7-11 along with a witness.


Anyone have any more info???

[Mextexman]

Amigomio. Could you please elaborate at to why do you think that happened to the owner of amnesia. If you do not want to inform us for any reason, I think we will all understand. I may be headed down to mty tomorrow.

[MonterreyDude]

Dunno why he got it, sir.

But anyway, Iam writing this post at 1:35 am CT after doing my club rounds.

Monterrey is still a safe city to move around, including the clubs.




Amigomio. Could you please elaborate at to why do you think that happened to the owner of amnesia. If you do not want to inform us for any reason, I think we will all understand. I may be headed down to mty tomorrow.

[Gomorrha11]

I went to the Infinito club a fews days ago. Some of the chicas were quite nice to watch but place was pretty quiet for 10pm. I guess it was a typical Monday. I took one of the chicas for some private time and was disappointed (I think her name was Mia). She did a lap dance for 4 mins and then asked if I wanted more. Since I don't speak Spanish a guy had to come to translate. I went for BJ and they indicated it would always be covered. Covered BJs don't excite me so I took like 15 mins to finish the business.

Do all the girls just provide covered BJs and no BBBJs or was it due to the fact the guy had to facilitate?

The girl never looked at me when performing the BJ or after. Would only return if there's a chance for sloppy ones on future visits.

[MonterreyDude]

Speaking bluntly, I wouldn't be intrested in an Infinito girl that did unprotected BJs.

As a local I know how many dicks these girls have in their mouths, so as a recomendation never go unprotected.

The only place you can find BBBJS would be at the MPs in the surrounding zone of Infinito.
There are almost 10 MPs no more than a one block radius.





I went to the Infinito club a fews days ago. Some of the chicas were quite nice to watch but place was pretty quiet for 10pm. I guess it was a typical Monday. I took one of the chicas for some private time and was disappointed (I think her name was Mia). She did a lap dance for 4 mins and then asked if I wanted more. Since I don't speak Spanish a guy had to come to translate. I went for BJ and they indicated it would always be covered. Covered BJs don't excite me so I took like 15 mins to finish the business.

Do all the girls just provide covered BJs and no BBBJs or was it due to the fact the guy had to facilitate?

The girl never looked at me when performing the BJ or after. Would only return if there's a chance for sloppy ones on future visits.

[Gomorrha11]

Well, in the depths of Bkk the ladies put up with at least the same cock sucking frequency and always uncovered, so wouldn't mind the same here.

You mention the MPs in the area for pure enjoyment - any hints how I can identify them? The google map doesn't seem to work any more.

I was thinking about checking out Harem - any luck there with BBBJs?

Thanks for sharing your insights Amigomio!

[MonterreyDude]

Considere this as a personal opinion:
(Go down the post to check the Google map link)

There is a whole universe of diference between Bangkok and Mexico a absolute different world that can only be compared with oil and water.

In a few words, Mexico is not as f**ked up as Bangkok as a country, socially speaking which does not make the girls as desperate as they are in SEA for cutomers or making them willing to comply to risky sex for them.

Also, the girls in Monterrey as in many parts of Mexico are not dumb.
Just as an example, compares to girls in SEA, most of the Mexican ho's will not allow pictrures taken cause they pretty know well that some of those pics will end on the WWW.

There is another thing here, related to the fact that the girls are not that desperate for money and it's their point of view of us as customers: they despise us.

So, you need to sum up all this info and adapt to the local girls, how they work and yes, work around that "despise us" thing so THEY can work in your advantage.

Back to the link, yes you are right, it isn't working any more. Dunno why.

Link is:
(Just joing everything in a single line)

http:
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I would still opt for MPs for BBBJs. They will charge you extra, but you will get your money's worth. Plan in spending 100 pesos over what they quote you for that.
Consider the MPs around the Infinito area have a base price of 150-200 pesos for starters for a quick pop, make it 100 initial fee for extras and an aditional 100 for BBBJ... end up paying 400 total or just 300 total for the service and the BBBJ.

Best option around Infinito are Signore and Faranoas (on my map)





Well, in the depths of Bkk the ladies put up with at least the same cock sucking frequency and always uncovered, so wouldn't mind the same here.

You mention the MPs in the area for pure enjoyment - any hints how I can identify them? The google map doesn't seem to work any more.

I was thinking about checking out Harem - any luck there with BBBJs?

Thanks for sharing your insights Amigomio!

[Big John 1]

Guys,65 year old monger going to Monterrey July 9,will not get in till after midnight,so really July 10.Hablo Espanol,first trip to Monterrey in 2 years,reservation at Hotel Mundo,works for me,even gave senior discount off their low rates!Vivaerobus flight Cd.Juarez to Monterrey just barely over $100 including taxes.Their website crashes a lot but finally got through,less than half prices of competitors so worth it.Big John 1PS.Like the low end places

[MonterreyDude]

Hotel Mundo???

Am not familiar at all with a hotel under that name.

But low end places would be Infinito and surrounding areas.
Though Infinito is not that low you can find SCs, dance halls, and MPs

Other low end places on Colon Avenue are not fit for locals, let alone tourists.





Guys,65 year old monger going to Monterrey July 9,will not get in till after midnight,so really July 10.Hablo Espanol,first trip to Monterrey in 2 years,reservation at Hotel Mundo,works for me,even gave senior discount off their low rates!Vivaerobus flight Cd.Juarez to Monterrey just barely over $100 including taxes.Their website crashes a lot but finally got through,less than half prices of competitors so worth it.Big John 1PS.Like the low end places

[Mextexman]

Thanks for your reply. I had one big toe on the bus in Reynosa when the bus driver mentioned about the "ley seca". For future reference and to all fellow mongers, could you please elaborate and educate us un poco por favor. I heard about three different closing times. From the taxi drivers to the bus drivers. So I decided not to got to mty this past weekend. Thanks for your reply. Y muchas gracias por todo lo que haces. Aver cuando tomamos una cerveza o un whisky. And yes, I agree, Mty is a very safe city if your careful and do not attract attention to yourself.


Dunno why he got it, sir.

But anyway, Iam writing this post at 1:35 am CT after doing my club rounds.

Monterrey is still a safe city to move around, including the clubs.

[MonterreyDude]

Ley Seca means No Booze, not a curfew on alcoholic bevarges.

This comes every 3 years to different states due to state and or federal elections and some states opt to aply it, some don't and it comes in 24 to 48 hours of no sales of alcoholic bevarages before elections.




Thanks for your reply. I had one big toe on the bus in Reynosa when the bus driver mentioned about the "ley seca". For future reference and to all fellow mongers, could you please elaborate and educate us un poco por favor. I heard about three different closing times. From the taxi drivers to the bus drivers. So I decided not to got to mty this past weekend. Thanks for your reply. Y muchas gracias por todo lo que haces. Aver cuando tomamos una cerveza o un whisky. And yes, I agree, Mty is a very safe city if your careful and do not attract attention to yourself.

[Doubt98]

I think that hotel is the one about a block west of the girls that stand on the corner by the bus station. About a block behind (south) of the hotel Fasto. Maybe between Suarez & Rayon on Ave Reforma? If it is the one I am thinking of I stayed there once. It was fairly quiet, clean, and sparse. And it wasn't a hotel by the hour...that I noticed or they gave me the 24 hour rate. I think I paid around $330.

[Precocious One]

Mac

Misses has it's web page:

http://www.missesdiamante.com.mx/

I can only tell you that they do sometimes have great girls, but rotation here between houses is big.

There are several other places that do not advertise like Regias and Models with girls that quote around 1000 up to 2000 pesos with instalations that are just superb.

But there are even smaller places like Extravagance

http://www.extravagancemassage.com

that for a modest price of 800 pesos offer great service with girls up to par as those offered by Luces Azules and Misses.

There are many options in Monterrey.
Yes, many.

Thing is that it is hit and miss here.
You need to go to all these places, check them out and then head to the one that has the girls you want.


Most of this information is patently false and does a disservice to visiting mongers that come to Monterrey in which time and shots fired are of utmost importance.

Regias Monterrey offers 40 minutes for $800 pesos and $1000 pesos for an hour. There are no $2000 peso offerings and, consequently, there are no women there that would constitute such pricing. I know this because I have actually been there. The installations are far from "superb" and on-line with the now defunct Vivid Spa and the infamous Marcella, both locations that have provided or continue to provide the same atmosphere for a lesser cost.

I am a frequent client of Extravagance and have been so since their inception last year. In fact, I was there yesterday and today and twice last week. I would be rendering no disrepect to the owners by saying that in no way, shape or form should they be mentioned in the same sentence as Misses. Also, the price for services are $500 pesos for a half hour and $600 pesos for 40 minutes. The place is very clean and the owners(father and son) are very amicable. However, they are in no way "up to par" with Misses nor do they make themselves out to be.

The information that I am providing is from someone that actually goes to MP's and patronizes them(four to five times a week) as opposed to someone that simply reads about them and attempts to provide analysis through hearsay.

[Precocious One]

If anyone here is in need of the map, I have another website that still has access to it. You can PM me for the URL.

I cannot post it here as it would be in violation of Jackson's policy.

[MonterreyDude]

Precocious, firstly I see no contradictions between your posting and my posts.

Secondly I see no "disservice to visiting mongers", nor "patently false" stuff.

So please stop BARGING into into my posts and please READ them.

It also seems that you have visited Regias without noticing that Models is directly one door the right of Regias on Tapia street???
Owned by the same guys and Models sure does quote 2000 pesos.

And if you will excuse me, seems you haven't laid foot on Misses, nor Romanos (Regias stands where Romanos used to be), nor Misses Diamante.
Girls at Extravagance, Regias, Models, Versace, are far superior to what Misses offers right now for 1800 pesos or Misses Diamante for 2000 pesos for as little as 500 -800 pesos, and being that, they do deserve to be in the same sentence.
(Did I mentione that I used to go with Karla at Extravagance??)

Yep, sorry to tell you this but for a long time now, I've been checking the MP scene.
And not just the medium range ones that you prefer, but if you want a list: Casa Rosa (who the hell do you think discovered now retired Sandy la Chichona???), brother MP Samara at Arteaga 1007 (guess who discovered this place and realized the owner and Sandy are partners).
Miroslava (I was like their 5th customer one year ago plus their best offering was Melisa la Chichona from Marcella).
Am mentioning Marcella, that means I've been there.
Francis at Articulo 123 (I've was with Tania before you)
MP at Carlos Salazar 2549 (used to be full of mature ladies, now they are spread all over the map, the best 2 serving now in call at motel Montecarlo on Zaragoza St).
Angy at Isaac Garza and Diego de Montemayor (Abril a 35 year old lady was fabulous, now I see Linda out call)
Horoscope, half a block away (Big boobed Diana is my Fav).
Havana, one block away (Dulce, here, made me laugh cause she is 19 and would not shave her vagina).
Deborahs, 3 blocks on Platon Sanchez (Owner Deborah, now retired, used to give the best BJs).
Faraonas, both business on Arteaga (I go to this one a lot, since it's right across Prestige MC) and Calle Alvarez 1 block parallel to Infinito.
The best of the cheap MPs: Signore.
All of Playboy's MPs (not may fav)
Now closed Milenio.
Shakira, D'Stress, Shampoo, Paraiso, Diamante.
And tons of others way out near and far from Cintermex and beyond on Colonia Contry, Guadalupe, etc.
Of course I am not capable of visiting them all at the same time, but I try... I try.
Want me to describe the rooms, the prices (and how much I tip), the bathrooms, the smells???

By the way, if you don't agree with me, why are you giving the mongers my map???
If my information is wrong, ergo my map should be wrong too.

Shouldn't it???











Most of this information is patently false and does a disservice to visiting mongers that come to Monterrey in which time and shots fired are of utmost importance.

Regias Monterrey offers 40 minutes for $800 pesos and $1000 pesos for an hour. There are no $2000 peso offerings and, consequently, there are no women there that would constitute such pricing. I know this because I have actually been there. The installations are far from "superb" and on-line with the now defunct Vivid Spa and the infamous Marcella, both locations that have provided or continue to provide the same atmosphere for a lesser cost.

I am a frequent client of Extravagance and have been so since their inception last year. In fact, I was there yesterday and today and twice last week. I would be rendering no disrepect to the owners by saying that in no way, shape or form should they be mentioned in the same sentence as Misses. Also, the price for services are $500 pesos for a half hour and $600 pesos for 40 minutes. The place is very clean and the owners(father and son) are very amicable. However, they are in no way "up to par" with Misses nor do they make themselves out to be.

The information that I am providing is from someone that actually goes to MP's and patronizes them(four to five times a week) as opposed to someone that simply reads about them and attempts to provide analysis through hearsay.

[Precocious One]

Precocious, firstly I see no contradictions between your posting and my posts.

Secondly I see no "disservice to visiting mongers", nor "patently false" stuff.

So please stop BARGING into into my posts and please READ them.

It also seems that you have visited Regias without noticing that Models is directly one door the right of Regias on Tapia street???
Owned by the same guys and Models sure does quote 2000 pesos.

And if you will excuse me, seems you haven't laid foot on Misses, nor Romanos (Regias stands where Romanos used to be), nor Misses Diamante.
Girls at Extravagance, Regias, Models, Versace, are far superior to what Misses offers right now for 1800 pesos or Misses Diamante for 2000 pesos for as little as 500 -800 pesos, and being that, they do deserve to be in the same sentence.
(Did I mentione that I used to go with Karla at Extravagance??)

Yep, sorry to tell you this but for a long time now, I've been checking the MP scene.
And not just the medium range ones that you prefer, but if you want a list: Casa Rosa (who the hell do you think discovered now retired Sandy la Chichona???), brother MP Samara at Arteaga 1007 (guess who discovered this place and realized the owner and Sandy are partners).
Miroslava (I was like their 5th customer one year ago plus their best offering was Melisa la Chichona from Marcella).
Am mentioning Marcella, that means I've been there.
Francis at Articulo 123 (I've was with Tania before you)
MP at Carlos Salazar 2549 (used to be full of mature ladies, now they are spread all over the map, the best 2 serving now in call at motel Montecarlo on Zaragoza St).
Angy at Isaac Garza and Diego de Montemayor (Abril a 35 year old lady was fabulous, now I see Linda out call)
Horoscope, half a block away (Big boobed Diana is my Fav).
Havana, one block away (Dulce, here, made me laugh cause she is 19 and would not shave her vagina).
Deborahs, 3 blocks on Platon Sanchez (Owner Deborah, now retired, used to give the best BJs).
Faraonas, both business on Arteaga (I go to this one a lot, since it's right across Prestige MC) and Calle Alvarez 1 block parallel to Infinito.
The best of the cheap MPs: Signore.
All of Playboy's MPs (not may fav)
Now closed Milenio.
Shakira, D'Stress, Shampoo, Paraiso, Diamante.
And tons of others way out near and far from Cintermex and beyond on Colonia Contry, Guadalupe, etc.
Of course I am not capable of visiting them all at the same time, but I try... I try.
Want me to describe the rooms, the prices (and how much I tip), the bathrooms, the smells???

By the way, if you don't agree with me, why are you giving the mongers my map???
If my information is wrong, ergo my map should be wrong too.

Shouldn't it???

I am not "BARGING." I am correcting. For the benefit of the board here and the owners of the MP's in question as your facts are incorrect.

I was at Regias last week. There are no $2000 pesos girls in their facility for in-call. None. The $2000 is strictly for take-out. Like most MP's, delivery is generally twice the price as in-call. But then again, you should already know that if you frequent the MP's.

I have "laid foot" in Ramono's and it used to be a favorite of mine last year. I have sessioned there in excess of 20 times. And there is no such thing as Misses Diamante. You would know that if you have actually been there. Misses and Misses Diamante are the same. Versace, Ramonos and Marcella are generally all the same in quality with Ramonos being somewhat inferior in their installations as Verscace recently went through a renovation. They all are, and will continue to be, second to Misses. Ramanos, Misses and Maha are all owned by the same brothers.

Who exactly do you know at Extravagance? Because if you do know someone, you would know that Extravagance is not the same as Versace or Misses. Also, why do you pay $800 pesos when the costs are $500 and $600 pesos? The prices have always been the same, and I have been going there for almost a year.

Regarding Casa Rosa, Sandy is not "partners" with the jefe, she is the encargada, and she just recently moved here from the US. She only offered services because they were short-handed. I don't know if she still is as I have been busy and have not had the time to go back in almost three weeks. I have never sessioned with her but she knows me quite well, as does one of the girls there. I have been going to this place, off and on, for over a year.

In reference to the map, I have always referred people to it. It is an excellent resource. As such, if it is still down on this site, I know another that offers it as well. I have used it there when the URL no longer works here as it has been down on numerous other occasions. If it makes you feel any better as you do have some sort of proprietory rights to it(even though in all probability it has no copyright), I will give you the URL and you can refer people to it. It really is of no importance to me and I am not trying to take credit where credit is not due.

As for Miroslava, Francis, Carlos Salazar 2549, Havana's, Deborah's, Shampoo, Playboy, Paraiso, Diamante and Faroana's, I have sessioned at these places maybe a total of two times in three years as everyone who has been there knows that they are all low-end($15-20/hh). And I have been inside everyone of them. You cannot go from a Versace, Marcella, Ramano's or Extravagance one day and then these the next. For me, it's just not possible. Like I have stated before on this blog, those places are for amusement purposes only for the majority of us here. Most of us here do not fu_k this level of chicas. Are these the places you find your "flock of sacred lambs" that you keep talking about? No offense, but 95 percent of the girls at the above-mentioned locations I wouldn't fu_k for free. You have on numerous occasions proclaimed that you "have the best girls" here in Monterrey. If possible, please tell us how you find the "best girls" in the worst places.

It's real easy. If anyone wants to know what one of the girls looks like regarding the above-captioned low-end MP's, simply head on over to the Photo Gallery section and look at Amigomio's girlfriends. That is what one can expect from a $15-20/hh girl here in Monterrey.

[MonterreyDude]

Let me point out AGAIN that MODELS and REGIAS are side by side, next to each other, next door neighbors.
Regias is on the corner of Tapia and Arista, Models is on Tapia ONE DOOR AWAY.
There they charge 2000 pesos.

See? You don't read my posts.

Try this address for Misses Diamante: Francisco Marquez 625, 2 blocks away from Cintermex.

And it isn't "Ramonos", its ROMANOS.
Also, it isn't Maha, it's Man-gohs, next door to Romanos.

Sandy is the sentimental partner of the owner of Casa Rosa and Samara, that's why she doesn't work anymore.

Be very careful with what you say, because many many mongers from this and other forums favor Signore and the surrounding MPs around Infinito cause they are the best pop for the buck places.

And my pictures, at the Gallery, yes, heavy set girls. A girlfriend that wanted to promote her outcall services, now retired.

Again, don't try to discredit me with a couple of pictures, the mongers know the type of girls I have on my list.

Extravagance: I used to know Karla. First girl I met there and payed 800 for one hour.

And yes I can go from place to place in one day, cause I make friends with the managers or the girls in charge.

I just pop once in a while to say hello, take a look at the girls, leave a couple of chocolats or candy (lesson learned from Unspongebob), tamarindos or chilitos and this small token gifts do a lot for relationships in this places.

By the way, I don't go around boasting my name at the MPs, I go under a psudonym, more than one as a matter of fact.

Ok, have I proven myself that I know the MP business?






I was at Regias last week. There are no $2000 pesos girls in their facility for in-call. None. The $2000 is strictly for take-out. Like most MP's, delivery is generally twice the price as in-call. But then again, you should already know that if you frequent the MP's.

I have laid foot in Ramono's and it used to be a favorite of mine last year. I have sessioned there in excess of 20 times. And there is no such thing as Misses Diamante. You would know that if you have actually been there. Misses and Misses Diamante are the same. Versace, Ramonos and Marcella are generally all the same in quality with Ramonos being somewhat inferior in their installations as Verscace recently went through a renovation. They all are, and will continue to be, second to Misses. Ramanos, Misses and Maha are all owned by the same brothers.

Who exactly do you know at Extravagance? Because if you do know someone, you would know that Extravagance is not the same as Versace or Misses. Also, why do you pay $800 pesos when the costs are $500 and $600 pesos? The prices have always been the same, and I have been going there for almost a year.

Regarding Casa Rosa, Sandy is not "partners" with the jefe, she is the encargada, and she just recently moved here from the US. She only offered services because they were short-handed. I don't know if she still is as I have been busy and have not had the time to go back in almost three weeks. I have never sessioned with her but she knows me quite well, as does one of the girls there. I have been going to this place, off and on, for over a year.

In reference to the map, I have always referred people to it. It is an excellent resource. As such, if it is still down on this site, I know another that offers it as well. I have used it there when the URL no longer works here as it has been down on numerous other occasions. If it makes you feel any better as you do have some sort of proprietory rights to it(even though in all probability it has no copyright), I will give you the URL and you can refer people to it. It really is of no importance to me as some delusional people may lead to believe.

As for Miroslava, Francis, Carlos Salazar 2549, Havana's, Deborah's, Shampoo, Playboy, Paraiso, Diamante and Faroana's, I have sessioned at these places maybe a total of two times in three years as everyone who has been there knows that they are all low-end($15-20/hh). And I have been inside everyone of them. You cannot go from a Versace, Marcella, Ramano's or Extravagance one day and then these the next. For me, it's just not possible. Like I have stated before on this blog, those places are for amusement purposes only for the majority of us here. Most of us here do not fu_k this level of chicas. Are these the places you find your "flock of sacred lambs" that you keep talking about? No offense, but 95 percent of the girls at the above-mentioned locations I wouldn't fu_k for free. You have on numerous occasions stated that you "have the best girls" here in Monterrey. If possible, please tell us how you find the "best girls" in the worst places.

It's real easy. If anyone wants to know what one of the girls looks like regarding the above-captioned low-end MP's, simply head on over to the Photo Gallery section and look at Amigomio's girlfriends. That is what one can expect from $15-20/hh girl here in Monterrey.

[Precocious One]

It is Maha and not "Man-gohs," as clearly stated on their website.

www.misses.com.mx/maha.htm

And it is not "next door" to Romanos, it is three blocks down.

Also, there is no such reference to "Misses Diamante," as evidenced on both of their websites.

www.misses.com.mx/

I guess it is possible, although highly-unlikely, that the owners(brothers) would also own a Misses Diamante and elect to not put it on their website after making reference to their three other locations. Or, a Misses Diamante exists as its own identity and the Misses' owners have permitted it to happen without pursuing trademark infringement. But the quickest way to resolve this is by simply going to www.google.com.mx/ and inputing Misses Diamante into the search engine which takes you directly back to the www.misses.com.mx/ page. Like I said, Misses and Misses Diamante are the same. Nice try on that fake address though(Francisco Marquez 625, 2 blocks away from Cintermex).

And for the place "ONE DOOR AWAY" from Regias, that place no longer exists. Like I said, I was there last week as opposed to last year. Let me guess, you have another address for me, right?

The only time that I "pop" in to MP's, like 99.99 percent of all the other guys here in Monterrey, is for service. Popping in to drop off chocolates for the girls and to just say "hello" without any intent for service seems somewhat bizarre, if not irrational and intrusive. Trust me, they(management/girls) don't want to see you and me with chocolates. They want to see you and me with money.

As for the other mongers, I am not making reference to them in a disrespectful manner. I simply figured that you and I had somewhat the same tastes for women, which I was obviously wrong about. I don't do the low-end places. Just like some guys will not and do not have to settle for the mid-range places as they can afford the high-end places. I wish I could afford Misses four days a week but I can't. Just like the guys that frequent the low-end places that wish they could afford the mid-range MP's.

Thanks

[MonterreyDude]

Just in from Misses:

Told me that they are refurbishing their Misses-Diamante instalations at Francisco Marquez St (one block from Cintermex) and that they temporarly moved their Diamante unit to their Tapia St home where they house the regular Misses girls.

Misses Diamante boasts 18-20 yo girls that have not had children, free of stretch marks, etc. Going rate still at 2200, which is considerable less than many independent escorts are charging now (crisis or no crisis, way into the 3000 peso range)

MD will go back to their usual address at the end of the month

Webpage: http://www.misses.com.mx/index.htm
Phone number: (52-81) 83-75-1947 y 83-75-1948
(Am including phone numbers now, cause some people just don't believe)

[Zoom 21]

What do you not understand about me stating that Misses and Misses Diamante are the same and at the same location? And not at some make-believe address near some Cintermex that you claimed. And yes, Models does exist and was probably closed on the day I went. And they just qouted me $1200 pesos/40 minutes; $1600 pesos/60 minutes.

You really do not know how stupid you look to us here, and to the management and chicas at the MP's here in Monterrey, as you run around town with your chocolates with no intent on receiving service and to just stop by to say "hello." Seriously.

I am done with you because I really do not want to sit around and converse with a guy that will argue with a stop sign, as fellow ISG member Beavis once stated.

You remember Beavis, don't you?

Your self-proclaimed "dear friend"(post #1448 of this same thread)that refers to you as a "pendejo."

Let me guess. It's a Mexican thing, right?

Do you realize, with all your incessant bragging about yourself, what people think about you after they physically meet you? And it's clearly obvious that you are still annoyed with the fact that when I first met you and Cabron 007 at Infinito that your girls at your table openly described me as "bonito", "guapo" and with one even asking me if I was a "stripper." But you know, sometimes that happens when you can bench press 315lbs, carry 12 percent body fat and have shoulder-length hair. Cabron 007 never had a problem with it or me because he is as who he claims.

PS

With respect to Jackson and the forum, I strongly request that from here on out you do not respond to my posts and I will not respond to yours as I know that your ultimate goal here is to have me booted off the forum.

You know, kind of like what happened to MillJust, the last guy that didn't put up with your crap.

ThanksI read this formum and I'm very familiar with the Monterrey area, Born there, Grow up there, finish college went to the States for training and stays there;

After all the years I was Away it is only one person that keep me update on what is going on in my home town and this is Amigo Mio. I'm not a suck ass, if you search my post I hardly talk about Monterrey but when I need information this guy delivers.

This forum is for men help another man to get sex with a woman. just focus on that and you'll see why Amigo Mio and the Monterrey forum needs to be togheter.

Amigo mio, there are somethings that I'm not agree with you, but you know the Monterrey's monger fields like nobody.

Kind Regards


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[Big John 1]

ng sized bed
Hotel Mundo is at 736 Reforma,330p,huge king bed,air conditioning,probably only non hourly hotel in area,got here at close 2am,had 5 delicious tacos de asada por 25p,this is definitely a Mexican travelers place sin Ingles,but clean, a little sparsegiant,nice king bed,businessmen and families hereprobably some hookers too but yet to see one,,not hourly,Windows 98 diaup in lobby,rest a day,then monger.I disagree with get what you pay for.Had good chicas for 150p,and terrible for 1000p,good lookers often not good lovers,albeit wives,girlfriends,or working gals!That is from an 65 year old guy with much experience.Anybody welcome to pm me,I am a senior member.Gracias,Big John 1

[MonterreyDude]

Thank you Zoom.

Believe me, am a little more open now.
I expanded my horizons to other points and places.

But my main problem now is that I have a SC GF that does not like wondering around other clubs.

Anyway, I manage... I manage.





I read this formum and I'm very familiar with the Monterrey area, Born there, Grow up there, finish college went to the States for training and stays there;

After all the years I was Away it is only one person that keep me update on what is going on in my home town and this is Amigo Mio. I'm not a suck ass, if you search my post I hardly talk about Monterrey but when I need information this guy delivers.

This forum is for men help another man to get sex with a woman. just focus on that and you'll see why Amigo Mio and the Monterrey forum needs to be togheter.

Amigo mio, there are somethings that I'm not agree with you, but you know the Monterrey's monger fields like nobody.

Kind Regards


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[Albert Punter]

Mac, sorry for delay in replying but I disconnected for a while.
I never had problem when scheduling (my Spanish is very fluent), they were always very punctual.
So far I am an happy customer of that agency.


Albert,

I've been to Monterrey quite a few times, mostly hitting the clubs like El Infinito, Matualla, etc and the MPs. This agency looks very promising as a change of pace. Did you have any troubles scheduling with them? My Spanish is OK, not great. You seem to have some pretty good intel, love to hear more about Misses as well (and any other such places).

Thanks,

Mac