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Kalifornication
11-17-07, 23:10
I have visited Cuba in 2002 going through canada and I did nto have any problem. Is it still possible to go to Cuba and return to the US through either canada or mexico without encountering problems from the us gov't? I will be departing to Cuba in Feb 2008 to attend the 24th Annual International jazz festival. Unfortunately, this is not qualified travel under the US Law. I am in NY and plan on departing from Canada. Kindly confirm the following:

I enter Canada from US by bus. Go to canadian airport where I have pre-purchased travel to Cuba. No stamp is reflected on my American passport indicating travel to Cuba. When I return to Canada, I go through canadian customs, then to a bus back to US. If asked by US customs. I had a wonderful stay in Canada.

Is this how it works?

BeersTerry
11-18-07, 16:45
How do you explain the tan ?
Make sure you aint taking cuban cigars home as a souvenir either.

Should probably keep an eye on the battle between Canada and the U.S. regarding passenger lists on Canadian overflights of U.S. territory.

Kalifornication
11-18-07, 17:34
How do you explain the tan ?
Make sure you aint taking cuban cigars home as a souvenir either.

Should probably keep an eye on the battle between Canada and the U.S. regarding passenger lists on Canadian overflights of U.S. territory.I have a natural tan given my african/irish/russian jewish ancestry, in fact, I may even look a bit Cuban, perhaps that will help me while in Cuba. :)

Holiday27
11-21-07, 02:20
I hear you Husky. I'm not a paid member so I don't have pm priveledges. Hmmm how else can we go about this. If you have a hookup for a place to stay for me that would be cool. I'm trying to see how I can get a hold of you. Cuba is calling me man.


Holiday.

Please PM me and I will respond to all your Questions. Accomodations are No Hassle for me.I can arrange for you if you so desire. I usually stay Verdado or Miramar at about $30 US per nite.

I usually walk from Vedado along The Malecon each day and end up down in "Olde Habana" I will wait for your PM because I am not posting e-mail My Brother ! Husky

Holiday27
11-21-07, 04:58
Ya I just noticed you can't put email addresses in here. I'm not a paying member so I don't have pm priviledges. Would be nice to get a hold of you though before the trip.


Holiday.

Please PM me and I will respond to all your Questions. Accomodations are No Hassle for me.I can arrange for you if you so desire. I usually stay Verdado or Miramar at about $30 US per nite.

I usually walk from Vedado along The Malecon each day and end up down in "Olde Habana" I will wait for your PM because I am not posting e-mail My Brother ! Husky

Kalifornication
11-25-07, 19:25
Seems to me as risky in two respects:

1. If it is legit, ... they run the risk of going up against the Cuban government whom I'd assume would not look the other way in regards to businesses operating in this manner.

2. If its not legit, they are simply seeking to seperate you from your money. They do ask for some -if not all- payment up front. Hmmm. Risky for them too, as I'd assume that would draw complaints and would eventually shut the scam down not to mention more severe penalties for FU46&%^& with tourists.

Interested in your thoughts. Here is the site: www.cubaleader.com

Steven Smith
11-26-07, 03:41
Seems to me as risky in two respects:

1. If it is legit, ... they run the risk of going up against the Cuban government whom I'd assume would not look the other way in regards to businesses operating in this manner.

2. If its not legit, they are simply seeking to seperate you from your money. They do ask for some -if not all- payment up front. Hmmm. Risky for them too, as I'd assume that would draw complaints and would eventually shut the scam down not to mention more severe penalties for FU46&%^& with tourists.

Interested in your thoughts. Here is the site: www.cubaleader.comAre you kidding? They advertise girls as young as 15. And. If a cuban official sees this site, they will be in legal trouble. Stay away! Mod: please delete this link.

Cubiche
11-26-07, 07:20
Seems to me as risky in two respects:

1. If it is legit, ... they run the risk of going up against the Cuban government whom I'd assume would not look the other way in regards to businesses operating in this manner.

2. If its not legit, they are simply seeking to seperate you from your money. They do ask for some -if not all- payment up front. Hmmm. Risky for them too, as I'd assume that would draw complaints and would eventually shut the scam down not to mention more severe penalties for FU46&%^& with tourists.

Interested in your thoughts. Here is the site: www.cubaleader.com


Do not send ANY payment!!

El Cubanito
11-26-07, 16:35
This site seems very, very, very fishy to me. I have been to Cuba a bunch of times and never have seem something like this. I would not trust them, plus what fun is there in you cathy a fish from a fishtank. The whole fun is looking around in the ocean and finding the fish you want and seeing if you can get that fish.

El Cubanito

El Rey De Pollo
11-26-07, 17:24
I totally agree with you Cubanito. If there was ever a country in the world where it made no sense to book girls through an agency or pimp, it is Cuba. Walking the streets of Cuba looking for chicas is. To me at least. Minimum half the experience and probably. And for sure at times. More of an experience than actually having sex.

And I think we can conclude without any doubt that this site is not only fake, but must also be operating from outside Cuba and have nothing to do with Cuba. What kind of Cuban would dare to advertise prostitues online? Let alone 15-16-17 year old prostitutes?

Kalifornication
11-29-07, 03:59
I totally agree with you Cubanito. If there was ever a country in the world where it made no sense to book girls through an agency or pimp, it is Cuba. Walking the streets of Cuba looking for chicas is. To me at least. Minimum half the experience and probably. And for sure at times. More of an experience than actually having sex.

And I think we can conclude without any doubt that this site is not only fake, but must also be operating from outside Cuba and have nothing to do with Cuba. What kind of Cuban would dare to advertise prostitues online? Let alone 15-16-17 year old prostitutes?My thoughts exactly. They are advertising on Badoo.com.

BeersTerry
12-04-07, 17:28
hehehe....if you send money, you will get a good f*cking alright.

Dolphin2007
01-09-08, 23:24
Hi All,

Are there any ways to send packages from the US to Havana? I'm thinking books and CDs. But, I think mail service is restricted to letters. Any way around this... besides getting a new President, that is.

Thanks,

Dolphin

El Grande
01-10-08, 18:26
Remembers me to the ***connection - side. Some guy who took pics of chicas he fucked put them on an internetsite and sold their phonenumbers without their knowing. All these sides are fake!!! No Cuban girl would put her pic on the internet advertising for sex. The Cubans have internet too, and so do their officials. The chica would be jailed in 24 hours!
Sites like Badoo.com or Amigos.com is the way they advertise.
I just klicked through Badoo and found out that I know some of them. (Not from chatting and with different names, but anyway.)

Juan Gonzalez
01-10-08, 20:57
The name of the page is travel. Cubaleader.com, is la acommodations services, guides and escort girls.

El Grande
01-11-08, 19:13
The name of the page is travel. Cubaleader.com, is la acommodations services, guides and escort girls.

That's the fake page were talking of.

Depends what you mean by "check".
Check whats around and how Cuban chicas look like: yes you can.
Check them on this page to meet them: forget it.

Haunted
01-12-08, 20:04
Hello,

I have a question for all the experienced travellers out there.

I want to take a week Sexcapade to somewhere in South America.

Limited spanish skills, fairly seasoned traveller, very limited budget, and only going for the action.

Been researching DR, Cuba and Colombia so far.

Thanks for the help!

Cuba Tourist
01-13-08, 04:59
Haunted---Cali, Colombia for the prettiest girls and largest quantities on a shoestring budget. Downside--ugly and somewhat dangerous city.

BeersTerry
01-13-08, 16:43
It depends on where you are flying from.

Cuba can be accessed fairly cheaply but the food sucks, the police state makes it harder to interact with girls (especially at night). As stated previously, it is a third world country charging first world prices. It is much safer than most...no all other latin countries. The people are friendly and make an effort (though you are a walking ATM machine to them).

Cali has lots of things, but as suggested, it is a little more dangerous, given its history and high unemployment rate. It can also be alot of fun. You will need some Spanish to get around as they don't give a shit about you, other than as an opportunity. The price of professionals can be pretty cheap. If Colombia, Medellin might be better as English is a little more common there.

Ecuador might be an option, but I heard the casas can be filthy.

Rock Harders
01-13-08, 17:24
Haunted-
I recently took a week each in Colombia and Cuba and for ease of use mongering and quality of the women Colombia wins hands down. I disagree with "beerstery" that the food in Cuba sucks; if you eat in government owned restaurants the food sucks, however, the seafood I ate in the casa particulares was the best I have ever had in my life. Also, Cuba is not necessarily first world expensive if you stay and eat in casa particulares. Alcohol and pussy are cheap (bottle of decent rum $5 USD, nice pussy $35 USD). However, I do not recommend Cuba as a mainstream mongering destination, it is more of a cultural/social experience with some sportfucking thrown in the mix. Medellin has a nice combination of truly beautiful women, fair prices, and pleasant atmosphere that I would recommend to anybody.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

El Rey De Pollo
01-15-08, 17:09
Your low down on Cuba is spot on. This is what should be on the cover of those guidebooks that I see some sweaty, horny men running around with in Havana wondering why there are no stripclubs and brothels and why the hell police are hazzling them every time they meet a girl.

These are the men who landed in the wrong country.

I would never go there if my sole purpose was mongering, but as I go there fairly often for other reasons the after work sportfucking is nice bonus. But you gotta love other thinhs about Cuba, to love being there.

Heading out from a Western country only for sex, I would forget about Cuba. Especially as a first timer as it takes two things to find high quality (not to mention free) sex: 1) Knowledge of Cuba and 2) Knowledge of Spanish.

Go to Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil or Agentina.


Haunted,

I recently took a week each in Colombia and Cuba and for ease of use mongering and quality of the women Colombia wins hands down. I disagree with "beerstery" that the food in Cuba sucks; if you eat in government owned restaurants the food sucks, however, the seafood I ate in the casa particulares was the best I have ever had in my life. Also, Cuba is not necessarily first world expensive if you stay and eat in casa particulares. Alcohol and pussy are cheap (bottle of decent rum $5 USD, nice pussy $35 USD). However, I do not recommend Cuba as a mainstream mongering destination, it is more of a cultural/social experience with some sportfucking thrown in the mix. Medellin has a nice combination of truly beautiful women, fair prices, and pleasant atmosphere that I would recommend to anybody.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

El Cubanito
01-15-08, 18:03
You are correct! You have to speak the language if you want free sex since you have to comunicate with these Girls.

Plus you must like something else about Cuba for going there. Yes, the girls is a nice side bar to everything else that you might be doing.

El Cubanito

Haunted
01-15-08, 22:10
Thanks alot guys, very valuable information. So, Colombia it is for now! Any suggestions as to which city. Medellin seems to be popping up quite a bit.

Dolphin2007
02-14-08, 20:07
Greetings. Does anyone have a rough idea how much it costs to rent a scooter / day?

Thanks!

Dolphin

Lerxsttt
02-16-08, 04:30
Greetings. Does anyone have a rough idea how much it costs to rent a scooter / day?

Thanks!

DolphinThe last two times I rented a scooter in Cuba (August & October 2007) the rate was approximately 20 CUC per day with a discount for renting multiple days.

Dolphin2007
02-16-08, 09:04
Thanks Yyzguy118! That sounds reasonable.

Cuidate,

Dolphin


The last two times I rented a scooter in Cuba (August & October 2007) the rate was approximately 20 CUC per day with a discount for renting multiple days.

El Rey De Pollo
02-20-08, 23:21
Here's a question that might be a bit controversial, but nevertheless relevant IMO.

Lots of talk of STD's. Some claim Cuba is full of it. Some claim it's almost dicease-free.

So my question is this (now that we're all fairly anonomous anyway): Anybody caught anything nasty or half-way nasty in Cuba?

Let me start out by saying 'no'. Then again, I never go bare all the way (non-pros included), but do like the BBBJ.

El Grande
02-21-08, 18:40
Here's a question that might be a bit controversial, but nevertheless relevant IMO.

Lots of talk of STD's. Some claim Cuba is full of it. Some claim it's almost dicease-free.

So my question is this (now that we're all fairly anonomous anyway): Anybody caught anything nasty or half-way nasty in Cuba?

Let me start out by saying 'no'. Then again, I never go bare all the way (non-pros included), but do like the BBBJ.

How can someone say Cuba as a world sex travel destination is desease free??? Thats pure ignorance!!!!

I've been in Cuba more than 10 times and all in all almost 2 years. The only difference to other South american countries is that every Cuban gets free medical service if he has some STD. But until they know that they have something it can be passed around to anybody. And especially gonorrhea is known that it often doesnt molest women who have it but only men.

I never bareback any Cubana neither, just BBBJs (I know I shouldn't) and lucky me never had anything (exept sore muscels). The most recent experience was a friend of mine who came to Havana with me last year. He was infected with gonorrhea and he said it feels like pissing shards. He had to eat Antibiotics for days. (I dunno whats worse, gonnorrhea or Cuban Antibiotics!)

Chenz24
02-23-08, 18:31
I'm from the US and if I wanted to go to Cuba I know I would have to go from Canada or Mexico What do I show the customs person in Cuba with out any problems do I show my US Passport do I give any money whats the Procedure.

El Rey De Pollo
02-24-08, 17:11
Interesting contribution. Yes, it's VERY difficult to stay away from the BBBJ's when one closes in and catches you off guard.

Anybody else with a take on the issue?


How can someone say Cuba as a world sex travel destination is desease free??? Thats pure ignorance!!!!

I've been in Cuba more than 10 times and all in all almost 2 years. The only difference to other South american countries is that every Cuban gets free medical service if he has some STD. But until they know that they have something it can be passed around to anybody. And especially gonorrhea is known that it often doesnt molest women who have it but only men.

I never bareback any Cubana neither, just BBBJs (I know I shouldn't) and lucky me never had anything (exept sore muscels). The most recent experience was a friend of mine who came to Havana with me last year. He was infected with gonorrhea and he said it feels like pissing shards. He had to eat Antibiotics for days. (I dunno whats worse, gonnorrhea or Cuban Antibiotics!)

Kalifornication
02-25-08, 02:08
I'm from the US and if I wanted to go to Cuba I know I would have to go from Canada or Mexico What do I show the customs person in Cuba with out any problems do I show my US Passport do I give any money whats the Procedure.Fly from your US City to Nassau (flights from NYC to Nassau are $60 one way for March dates). When you go through Nassau customs, they will ask (or you ask) if you do not wish to be stamped "in transit". Obviously, if you are "in transit", upn your return to Nassau and on your way through US customs, they will know you did not stay in Nassau. They will assume Cuba. If you pay.in Nassau- the $20+ for them not to stamp your book "in transit", then everyone will think you had a wonderful time in Nassua. Cuba will not stamp your book (they are not trying to cause you problems). They will want to see your passport however.

Dolphin2007
02-29-08, 19:54
Say I pick up a pro and pay $60 - is that $ for a specific time period or for # of times I cum or what? Are pros there clock watchers or does it vary a lot?

In the US, you can pay somebody $200 for a session, but if you cum in 10 minutes, it is not unusual for the woman to start getting dressed at minute 11, even if you have a few more rounds in you. How do things work in Cuba? What is a typical expectation from a pro? Any advice?

I'm hoping for non-pros. But who knows what'll happen.

Thanks!

Maxx
03-02-08, 16:42
Darenesq, can you please explain in more detail how to avoid an "in transit" stamp. You said you paid $20 in Nassau. Is this a legitimate request you can make or did you slip a 20 to the people who check passports.

I know you can get some kind of travelers ID from Cubana at the airport that they will stamp instead of your passport when you arrive in Cuba, but I've been nervous about a stamp indicating you left the other country. Thanks for the info.

Max


If you pay.in Nassau- the $20+ for them not to stamp your book "in transit", then everyone will think you had a wonderful time in Nassua. Cuba will not stamp your book (they are not trying to cause you problems). They will want to see your passport however.

PincheCabron
03-02-08, 17:45
Nassau is not a good transit point. I suggest mexico or the DR. If you stay any longer than a week in nassau they will start to ask you questions like if you did some island hopping or if you worked in the island. Apparently most people only stay a few days from my one experience on a trip there.


Darenesq, can you please explain in more detail how to avoid an "in transit" stamp. You said you paid $20 in Nassau. Is this a legitimate request you can make or did you slip a 20 to the people who check passports.

I know you can get some kind of travelers ID from Cubana at the airport that they will stamp instead of your passport when you arrive in Cuba, but I've been nervous about a stamp indicating you left the other country. Thanks for the info.

Max

Kalifornication
03-02-08, 19:33
Nassau is not a good transit point. I suggest mexico or the DR. If you stay any longer than a week in nassau they will start to ask you questions like if you did some island hopping or if you worked in the island. Apparently most people only stay a few days from my one experience on a trip there.I am not aware of the questions which may arise in nassau if your stay exceeds a week. That may be true. In fact, when I traveled to Cuba in 1996 (legally) I went with a friend who was not properly licensed. When we returned to Nassua, US customs asked him about his stay in Nassau and where.in fact- he stayed, . He stated "the hills", . Apparently Nassau has no hills. The US customs agent laughed it off and told my friend that he was in Cuba? My friend smiled and said yes and all was just fine. That was pre-Bush (not that bush) however. Also, recently I was told from my canadian travelk agent, that Nassau is not so free with withholding the "in transit" stamp. She explained that now, you musty ask them not to stamp it. Before, they raised the issue by asking americans if the indeed wanted their books stamped "in tranist".

It is a new day I suppose. But, I strongly believe that the US has no interest in prosecuting cultural travelers to Cuba. If you are not engaging in business and not bringing product back, I cannot see the justice dept expending resources to prosecute a casual traveler. In fact, find a good charity in Cuba and donate some items to them. Get your picture taken doing so so that if your uncle sam decides to do anything, your good faith chartity mission would mitigate the governments claims.

Maxx
03-02-08, 21:16
I've been thinking about the DR as a transit point. I live in NY so its easier for me than Mexico. I also figured that if they stamp you for leaving the country you could say you took a road trip to Haiti.

Would I be stamped when I leave the DR for Cuba, or when I re-enter the DR after visiting Cuba?

Any other info about how to avoid a stamp in the transit point country would be appreciated. All my other questions have been answered many times over on the board, but I am having trouble finding out for sure if your passport is always stamped, how this can be avoided, whether the US customs agents will notice, and what you could say if they did see that you left your supposed vacation destination. Thanks.


Nassau is not a good transit point. I suggest mexico or the DR. If you stay any longer than a week in nassau they will start to ask you questions like if you did some island hopping or if you worked in the island. Apparently most people only stay a few days from my one experience on a trip there.

Kalifornication
03-03-08, 04:12
I've been thinking about the DR as a transit point. I live in NY so its easier for me than Mexico. I also figured that if they stamp you for leaving the country you could say you took a road trip to Haiti.

Would I be stamped when I leave the DR for Cuba, or when I re-enter the DR after visiting Cuba?

Any other info about how to avoid a stamp in the transit point country would be appreciated. All my other questions have been answered many times over on the board, but I am having trouble finding out for sure if your passport is always stamped, how this can be avoided, whether the US customs agents will notice, and what you could say if they did see that you left your supposed vacation destination. Thanks.Max, I too am in NY, too bad we could not enjoy the fruits of Cuba together. A few Cuba libres and Mojitos. I'll be departing on the 25th of March.

PincheCabron
03-03-08, 18:37
Yes you will be stamped by DR customs but that is not the issue. As you may (or may not) know the issue with nassau is that US customs is IN nassau itself and they have more leeway to monitor incoming and outgoing visitors. They are looking for terrorists, drug smugglers etc., so if something raises their alarm they will investigate more. Like you staying in nassau for two weeks or more. You won't have that problem coming from the DR.


I've been thinking about the DR as a transit point. I live in NY so its easier for me than Mexico. I also figured that if they stamp you for leaving the country you could say you took a road trip to Haiti.

Would I be stamped when I leave the DR for Cuba, or when I re-enter the DR after visiting Cuba?

Any other info about how to avoid a stamp in the transit point country would be appreciated. All my other questions have been answered many times over on the board, but I am having trouble finding out for sure if your passport is always stamped, how this can be avoided, whether the US customs agents will notice, and what you could say if they did see that you left your supposed vacation destination. Thanks.

PincheCabron
03-03-08, 21:56
I agree 100% about customs not really interested if you went to cuba or not. It's a no win situation for them probably involving tons of paperwork. Nassau is more touch and go and as you mentioned probably more so due to Bush and his sucking up to florida. However as you yourself mentioned, if something doesn't seem quite right they will pry more about your "stay" in nassau. Within a year I think the travel ban will be lifted and we won't have to hip-hop around or at least not worry so much.


I am not aware of the questions which may arise in nassau if your stay exceeds a week. That may be true. In fact, when I traveled to Cuba in 1996 (legally) I went with a friend who was not properly licensed. When we returned to Nassua, US customs asked him about his stay in Nassau and where.in fact- he stayed, . He stated "the hills", . Apparently Nassau has no hills. The US customs agent laughed it off and told my friend that he was in Cuba? My friend smiled and said yes and all was just fine. That was pre-Bush (not that bush) however. Also, recently I was told from my canadian travelk agent, that Nassau is not so free with withholding the "in transit" stamp. She explained that now, you musty ask them not to stamp it. Before, they raised the issue by asking americans if the indeed wanted their books stamped "in tranist".

It is a new day I suppose. But, I strongly believe that the US has no interest in prosecuting cultural travelers to Cuba. If you are not engaging in business and not bringing product back, I cannot see the justice dept expending resources to prosecute a casual traveler. In fact, find a good charity in Cuba and donate some items to them. Get your picture taken doing so so that if your uncle sam decides to do anything, your good faith chartity mission would mitigate the governments claims.

El Rey De Pollo
03-03-08, 23:00
While I do like Cuba, I am really surprised about the hazzle and planning some of you Americanos are willing to go through.

Why you wanna risk fines of up to 7000 USD to go to Cuba for a piece of pussy when you can find similar or in many cases better poonani in Colombia, Mexico, CR and other countries that you are legally allowed to travel to.

I understand why some folks have fallen in love with Cuba and need to return, but for a first time visitor, I would wait out the ban and head to another country.

Lifted in a year? I don't think so. 50 years of hostility and embargoing is not cancelled in a second because some black democrat is elected president.


I agree 100% about customs not really interested if you went to cuba or not. It's a no win situation for them probably involving tons of paperwork. Nassau is more touch and go and as you mentioned probably more so due to Bush and his sucking up to florida. However as you yourself mentioned, if something doesn't seem quite right they will pry more about your "stay" in nassau. Within a year I think the travel ban will be lifted and we won't have to hip-hop around or at least not worry so much.

PincheCabron
03-04-08, 01:30
Senator Jeff Flake from Arizona has introduced legislation twice to lift the travel ban and both times it passed through congress and senate only to be threatened by a veto from Bush. Soon as Dubya is out the travel ban will not be far behind. I agree it's a damn shame it will have taken 50 years but it will be hi$tory soon enough. I travel to mexico frequently and I've been to the DR and apart from Brazil, which is pretty damn far from the west coast, there really is no other mongering destination comparable so close.
If I lived in NY or florida I would be in brazil every other month.


While I do like Cuba, I am really surprised about the hazzle and planning some of you Americanos are willing to go through.

Why you wanna risk fines of up to 7000 USD to go to Cuba for a piece of pussy when you can find similar or in many cases better poonani in Colombia, Mexico, CR and other countries that you are legally allowed to travel to.

I understand why some folks have fallen in love with Cuba and need to return, but for a first time visitor, I would wait out the ban and head to another country.

Lifted in a year? I don't think so. 50 years of hostility and embargoing is not cancelled in a second because some black democrat is elected president.

Kalifornication
03-04-08, 02:31
While I do like Cuba, I am really surprised about the hazzle and planning some of you Americanos are willing to go through.

Why you wanna risk fines of up to 7000 USD to go to Cuba for a piece of pussy when you can find similar or in many cases better poonani in Colombia, Mexico, CR and other countries that you are legally allowed to travel to.

I understand why some folks have fallen in love with Cuba and need to return, but for a first time visitor, I would wait out the ban and head to another country.

Lifted in a year? I don't think so. 50 years of hostility and embargoing is not cancelled in a second because some black democrat is elected president.Can we refrain from defining people by their race? It really makes you look base, and I'd rather -considering you are a member of this fine group- give you the benefit of the doubt.

Member #3060
03-04-08, 23:52
I am trying to get to Cuba for a weekend before Castro kicks the bucket. Currently I plan on arriving in Cancun late on the March 14th, a Friday.

I'm trying to find out how hard is it to get a flight from Cancun to Havana at the last minute and who to go through. Currently my plan is to get off the plane in Cancun and then walk around the airport trying to find a flight to Havana.

Ideally I'd like to leave Cancun late Friday night and return early Sunday morning. I know this is probably a high traffic time but this is the time slot that I have to work with.

Which airline or charter should I go through, how much should it cost and what are the chances of just walking up and getting a flight at 6PM on a Friday?

Thanks

Maxx
03-05-08, 06:29
I suppose one of the reasons I want to go is because I'm not supposed to. From everything I have read on this board, I can only recall one guy saying he received a fine settlement for visiting Cuba, which he plead not-guily to and never heard anything again. Plus the reason he got caught was that he had cigars or bottles of cuban rum in his bag or something, obvious carelessness.

Cheap pussy is one reason to go, but it isn't the only reason. I am a student of history and Cuba is a relic. In some ways, it is frozen in time and has one of the most interesting stories in the new world. I am a serious amatuer photographer and from what I've seen, Cuba is a unique place to photograph.

While Cuba will probably be a mess for a few years after relations with the US are normalized, it will likely revert to its former status as a major vacation spot for Americans. Once the dollars start pouring in, it will never be the same.


While I do like Cuba, I am really surprised about the hazzle and planning some of you Americanos are willing to go through.

Why you wanna risk fines of up to 7000 USD to go to Cuba for a piece of pussy when you can find similar or in many cases better poonani in Colombia, Mexico, CR and other countries that you are legally allowed to travel to.

I understand why some folks have fallen in love with Cuba and need to return, but for a first time visitor, I would wait out the ban and head to another country.

Lifted in a year? I don't think so. 50 years of hostility and embargoing is not cancelled in a second because some black democrat is elected president.

Cubiche
03-05-08, 07:28
I am trying to get to Cuba for a weekend before Castro kicks the bucket. Currently I plan on arriving in Cancun late on the March 14th, a Friday.

I'm trying to find out how hard is it to get a flight from Cancun to Havana at the last minute and who to go through. Currently my plan is to get off the plane in Cancun and then walk around the airport trying to find a flight to Havana.

Ideally I'd like to leave Cancun late Friday night and return early Sunday morning. I know this is probably a high traffic time but this is the time slot that I have to work with.

Which airline or charter should I go through, how much should it cost and what are the chances of just walking up and getting a flight at 6PM on a Friday?

Thanks

From Cancun, there are 2 airlines that have flights to Havana. Cubana and Click(Mexicana). Cubana has one flight a day and Click has two. Cubana's flight is in the early afternoon. Click's are one in the afteroon and the other in evening. On the return, Cubana is in the early afternoon and Click's are one in the early morning and one in the afternoon. Prices are about the same, around $330 USD. This does not include the Cuban Entry Visa or Cuban Departure tax.

El Rey De Pollo
03-05-08, 18:33
Guys, try reading on 'regular' travelboards like Tripadvisor. Many, many Americans with fines.

Darenesq: Are you serious? I call a black guy a black guy and a white guy a white guy. If my referring to Obama as a potential black president is politically uncorrect to you, well, I honestly can't be bothered.

Political correctness has its reasonable limits. Even in a sex forum...

Kalifornication
03-06-08, 05:43
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03-06-08, 17:14
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Tattle
03-07-08, 06:34
Can anybody tell me the best and cheapest place to change Can. dollars to CUC? Is it the airport kiost at Havana or the Bank on Obispo or?

BeersTerry
03-07-08, 22:13
There is a money exchange desk opposite the luggage carousel when you arrive. Count your money as they have a habit of short changing you there. There is also an ATM at the wall in front of you as you proceed out of the secure area of the airport into the common area.

Lordalfred
03-10-08, 15:44
From a contact of mine on Cuba I heard that the new president is imposing a new law on Cubans these days that does not allow them any longer to write emails to foreign countries. Has anyone heard of that, or does anyone know more details?

Kalifornication
03-11-08, 03:18
From a contact of mine on Cuba I heard that the new president is imposing a new law on Cubans these days that does not allow them any longer to write emails to foreign countries. Has anyone heard of that, or does anyone know more details?I will only add this, . I was in communication with a young cuban lady who attends school in Havana. Have communicated with her for several months. Suddenly, she is just gone. No more emails whatsoever. Now I concede that perhaps she got cold feet given the fact that I am about to arrive in Cuba, . But I really think something else is up given the fact that we did have some extended communication?

BeersTerry
03-11-08, 15:30
I am not having unusual problems emailing.

Kalifornication
03-12-08, 02:16
I am not having unusual problems emailing.Then I'll assume it must be me.

El Rey De Pollo
03-12-08, 10:23
I am in regular mail contact with 3-4 cubanas and no problems receiving mail. So this would be news to me.


Then I'll assume it must be me.

Donnylad
03-16-08, 15:01
Hi there. Can anyone please tell me if it is easy to get a cell phone pay as you go SIM card in Cuba? Does this cover the whole of the country? What is coverage like in other cities and towns?

thanks,

Donnylad

Smiles02
03-19-08, 04:05
From a contact of mine on Cuba I heard that the new president is imposing a new law on Cubans these days that does not allow them any longer to write emails to foreign countries. Has anyone heard of that, or does anyone know more details?


Well I have not heard any of that, in fact I email daily to Cuba and besides I use msn messenger and yahoo messenger with a friend that has access through her employment. Just of particular note for all: if a friend in Cuba has access through employment or uses one of the internet cafe's or hotel internet services, if your friend is lucky enough to have a webcam, you can video conference with them but not through msn or yahoo. You can video conference through sykpe messenger service. Apparently Cuba cannot block all the open ports on sykpe. I was fortunate today to have been talking with my friend and gave her telephone numbers of casas I searched through the internet and had her phone for me and she quickly replied while online through msn. That is great.

Smiles02
03-19-08, 04:13
Hi there. Can anyone please tell me if it is easy to get a cell phone pay as you go SIM card in Cuba? Does this cover the whole of the country? What is coverage like in other cities and towns?

thanks,

DonnyladWell I got mine 3 years ago and still have it active. You can get one, I think the price is 120 cuc now for the telephone line. You as a foreigner are entitled to 3 celluar telephone lines / However the balance is good only for 2 months and then you have to recharge it with a minimun 10 dollar credit, done several ways of course, and the account is good for only 3 months and if you don't reactivate it in that 3 month period, its deactivated for you. Of course their are alternatives to getting reactivated, leaving your sim card with a friend, or keeping your sim card and have your friend attend a cubacell c-com main office and just add 10 dollars to your account. There are many other things too, there was a internet site where you could pay by credit card on line to renew your subscription but that has not worked in awhile. Anyways, in havana their is a office at the airport, in havana city there is one in old havana and a office in mimimar. You can get recharge cards at infourtour shops, hotels, and cubacan offices. Etc. Lots more info.

Smiles02
03-19-08, 04:19
Hi there. Can anyone please tell me if it is easy to get a cell phone pay as you go SIM card in Cuba? Does this cover the whole of the country? What is coverage like in other cities and towns?

thanks,

DonnyladOh I forgot to add, your cellphone should be a GSM quad band unlocked of course to accept the sim card. I forget what frequency Cuba is on it is either 850 or 900. Well doesn t matter as long as you have a quad band it is easier, if not and you are operating adual band, lets say 850/1900 or 900/1800 I think thats right not sure, then the cell phone will work in the cities well but find they do not work in the rural areas as such. My experience before has been with the dual band and my phone (for example in the Havana area) did not receive reception by the beches in Santa Maria or Guanabo but received it in havana. And yes they operate to the other provinces.

UrbanWildlife
03-28-08, 16:24
Cuba's new government to allow ordinary Cubans to get cell phone service


By WILL WEISSERT , Associated Press
Last update: March 28, 2008 - 9:08 AM

HAVANA - President Raul Castro's government said Friday it is allowing cell phones for ordinary Cubans, a luxury previously reserved for those who worked for foreign firms or held key posts with the communist-run state.

It was the first official announcement of the lifting of a major restriction under the 76-year-old Castro, and marked the kind of small freedom many on the island have been hoping he would embrace since succeeding his older brother Fidel as president last month.

Some Cubans previously ineligible for cell phones had already gotten them by having foreigners sign contracts in their names, but mobile phones are not nearly as common in Cuba as elsewhere in Latin America or the world.

Telecommunications monopoly Empresa de Telecomunicaciones de Cuba S.A., or ETECSA said it would allow the general public to sign prepaid contracts in Cuban Convertible Pesos, which are geared toward tourists and foreigners and worth 24 times the regular pesos Cuban state employees are paid in.

The decree was published in a small black box on page 2 of the Communist Party newspaper Granma.

The government controls well over 90 percent of the economy and while the communist system ensures most Cubans have free housing, education and health care and receive ration cards that cover basic food needs, the average monthly state salary is just 408 Cuban pesos, a little less than $20.

A program in Convertible Pesos likely will ensure that cell phone service will be too expensive for many Cubans, but ETECSA's statement said doing so will allow it to improve telecommunication systems using cable technology and eventually expand the services it offers in regular pesos.

The statement promised further instructions in coming days about how the new plan will be implemented, and there were no lines of would-be customers mobbing ETECSA outlets as they opened for business.

ETECSA is a mixed enterprise that operates with foreign capital from the Italian communications firm Italcom.

Bigblkman22
03-31-08, 16:11
I'm sure this question has been beaten into the ground so I ask for your indulgence. Is it true that Cubans will not stamp your American passport and what is the best airline/third country location for an American to use?

Vermaji
04-01-08, 01:23
Yummie, now you can have some real fun.

UrbanWildlife
04-01-08, 05:08
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080401/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cuba_hotels;_ylt=Augef3oUv.cyg8yqPH_Fj3as0NUE

Member #3200
04-01-08, 06:59
Hold the phone on the hopes of having chicas in your rooms just yet

If this is the case/reality that I can bring a chica to my room for an afternoon delight or overnight stay without paying a full night AI rate then happy days are here again, but I'm not holding my breathe yet.

I would love to be able to walk in with a friend for a few hours of fun then out the door you go honey.

I hope someone is down there right now, trying this new Raul rule & will report back on what the true story is regarding this new issue. I am thinking about going down there in 3 weeks if all I have 2 pay is a small fee 2 bring someone back to my room.

QuackUp
04-01-08, 07:41
A friend sent this to me. Not sure what the date was when taken.

http://www.veoh.com/fullscreen_single.html?permalinkId=v305108FyKBtYJ3

q

El Cubanito
04-01-08, 13:21
A friend sent this to me. Not sure what the date was when taken.

http://www.veoh.com/fullscreen_single.html?permalinkId=v305108FyKBtYJ3

q


Dude, name a country in the world that DOES NOT have a Sex Industry? It is not called the oldest profession for nothing. What do you think goes on in Brazil, Colombia, DOminican Republic, Costa Rica, Panama, Peru, Argentina, for God sakes even Mother England.

I have seen this video from those idiots in Miami. What do you think happens in Miami?

El Cubanito

BeersTerry
04-01-08, 15:23
I would wait to see what allowing Cubans to rent rooms mean, and what form it takes. She would have to have identification and money for a room.

However, does that mean they will check to see where she got the money ? and how many times she rents rooms ?

El Grande
04-01-08, 20:06
A friend sent this to me. Not sure what the date was when taken.

http://www.veoh.com/fullscreen_single.html?permalinkId=v305108FyKBtYJ3

q

Great idea! If I'd find a tv-channel that pays me my mongering I'd do a report too.!

Kalifornication
04-02-08, 01:12
I just returned from Cuba today and here is what I observed:

1. It is not difficult at all to talk to the women.

2. The university girls are more than willing to spend the night at your casa. But must show id.

3. The discos are full of great looking women willing to spend the evening as your gf in the disco and later join you at your casa.

4. the melecon also has a few jockeys working the area. I did not spend much time here however.

All in all, if your looking for this sort of action, ... it is definitely available in Cuba.

I am very much confused by the earlier discussions re no action in Cuba??? Where were you guys, ... Guantnamo?

Sean EZ
04-02-08, 01:21
We've been considering a trip to Cuba and been reading reports, etc. Looking for an advice from the experts: what's a good time to go? We are thinking the month of May maybe, but the LP says all the college chicks on break head to beaches in July/Aug. But then beachside outside of Havana, how do you bring them home? We keep hearing it's only in Havana where one can find casa particular for unregistered guests... Any suggestions are appreciated.

Otto1111
04-02-08, 02:58
I am passing thru Havana soon. Does anyone have any tips?

El Rey De Pollo
04-02-08, 14:29
July and August are good, but hot. Beaches are full of girls. Bring them home in your rental car or by taxi. Or even in the bus. basically same transportation as you would be taking yourself.

There are illegal casas everywhere. I am sure in Guanabo too, allthough I have little experience here.


We've been considering a trip to Cuba and been reading reports, etc. Looking for an advice from the experts: what's a good time to go? We are thinking the month of May maybe, but the LP says all the college chicks on break head to beaches in July/Aug. But then beachside outside of Havana, how do you bring them home? We keep hearing it's only in Havana where one can find casa particular for unregistered guests... Any suggestions are appreciated.

BeersTerry
04-02-08, 14:59
Gunabo is packed for August. It is peak season there are lots of Europeans and most Cubans are off. It is also way fucking hot. July is also good and not as hot.

Sean EZ
04-02-08, 20:49
TravellingGring, Beersterry

Does this mean in May beaches will be dead?

El Rey De Pollo
04-02-08, 21:35
No, but way more tourists than locals. Was there in May last year. Very few chicas and did not pick up a single girl from the beach in 3 weeks. Then again, I didn't go there to find girls and was at the beach 4-5 times, but still, if I had wanted to find chicas on the beach, I would have had very few oportunities.


TravellingGring, Beersterry

Does this mean in May beaches will be dead?

Private 69
04-03-08, 01:45
I would wait to see what allowing Cubans to rent rooms mean, and what form it takes. She would have to have identification and money for a room.

However, does that mean they will check to see where she got the money ? and how many times she rents rooms ?I'm interested to see what form it takes too. If it's anything like the casas, they will have to register, and those who register too often with foreigners will be in trouble.

As for taking chicas to rooms for short time, well even in other countries that is frowned on in many hotels. I don't think Cuba will go from one extreme to the other overnight.

What this is good for is guys with steady girlfriends in Cuba. Now they will be able to book their girl into a hotel for a week or whatever.

I will go down at the end of this month and report back.

Sean EZ
04-03-08, 03:37
No, but way more tourists than locals. Was there in May last year. Very few chicas and did not pick up a single girl from the beach in 3 weeks. Then again, I didn't go there to find girls and was at the beach 4-5 times, but still, if I had wanted to find chicas on the beach, I would have had very few oportunities.

Thanks again. I guess May is a month to stay in Havana then.. Not a bad option either ;)

BeersTerry
04-04-08, 16:53
Cubans start going to the beach after semana santa as before that, there are jellyfish in the water.

I think that you see the darker skinned girls because they are more willing to take obvious risks. You can find others, but it takes more work to hustle them during the day. I like trolling at the shopping malls.

Member #3200
04-11-08, 16:22
I am interested in going back again to Cuba in 10 days, I'm wondering has anybody tried to bend the new rules of cubans allowed on hotel/resort properties yet; especially, when it comes to getting them into their rooms for 2hrs or overnight; for example, bribing guard, sneaking them to room after using the hotels beach or paying a small day fee to have the woman as your guest.

I hope to have a guest or 2 in my room during my trip-I plan on staying in the havana/playa de este area.

Any info regarding the easing up on restrictions for cubans on hotel properties & fellow mongers using it 2 ones advantage has taken place yet.

Methos
04-12-08, 07:11
I read a report on the trip advisor forum where someone was talking about a 30cuc/day charge to have a guest at his hotel in Cayo Coco. I pm'd him and he told me about someone else at a different hotel where they wanted 100cuc/day. I might look into it to meet up with a former gf, but I doubt there'd be too many places where they would let you bring in a different girl every day.

El Chico
04-18-08, 21:47
I may be answering this out of context, but a lot of hotels (including all of them in Cayo Coco) are all inclusive. The new rules allow Cubans to go to these hotels, but they have to pay for the day just like anyone else. You could invite your British friend to the hotel, but it makes sense that the hotel is going to charge a guest fee just like anywhere else.

Tattle
04-22-08, 07:39
Does anyone have experience in living in Cuba for extended periods of time; i would like to move there and see that there is a ' 180 day per year' rule: anyone have insight into ways around this or any comments on this; the island appeals to me for many reasons: and I would like to live there for a few years.

Thanks

El Rey De Pollo
04-22-08, 21:27
Short answer: Forget it unless diplomacy is your line of work.

Not possible for a number of reasons.


Does anyone have experience in living in Cuba for extended periods of time; i would like to move there and see that there is a ' 180 day per year' rule: anyone have insight into ways around this or any comments on this; the island appeals to me for many reasons: and I would like to live there for a few years.

Thanks

BeersTerry
04-23-08, 00:00
If you are citing the 180 day thing, then I will assume you are a Canadian.

You will either have to leave for a day and come back on a new tourist visa or become a student. Being a student is pretty wide open.

The marriage/family way is supposed to be undergoing changes. From what people have told me, it is alot less hassle to do the first two mentioned options.

DriedUp
04-23-08, 08:48
You and every other guy on this religious message board.

I had that same question after my first mesmerizing trip in 2002!

I gave up. The only way is getting work with a foreign company, and those jobs are highly specialized. Engineering mostly. Canada, Spain, mining companies.

And the govt so paranoid. They are not likeMmexico. Mexico, you show 5000k bank account, stay as long as you want.

In Cuba, you show 1 billion, they still say no, or they get suspicious and never let you back in again.

If you find a way, let me know. Let all of us know.

Maybe things will get easier.

On my last trip, 2006, I was there a total of 8 months. Left every 2 to Cancun. Spent a day and flew back in. A huge hassle, but had to do it.

And plus I was lucky that a Cuban guy living in Cancun paid for my plain tickets if I took some clothes he sold in Cuba.

El Rey De Pollo
04-23-08, 09:45
Thing is, that the only realistic way of staying in Cuba for an extended period is to enroll at a university. But the problem is that you have to attend classes, because if you're not there your student visa will be revoked. So if you want to live in Cuba, but be stuck at a university for classes everyday and all day, then your dream is not impossible.

BeersTerry
04-23-08, 14:51
TG, I know a person who stayed there to take percussion lessons for two years. I also know a few people who stayed a couple of years other instruction....not university related.

El Cubanito
04-24-08, 13:41
personally who has stayed in Cuba for a year. Granted the way he did it was costly. He would get on a flight out of Cuba to Cancun and return the same day. This was back in 2003. The cost o fthe flight back then was $200 dollars. I also know of another writer (American) who wrote a book about where White people came from. The Book is very controvesial because he say that white people came from in-breeding of two Black people. Anyway he has been living in Cuba for 4 years now. I just saw him in March when I was down in Cuba.

So you cna stay in Cuba for a long time if you are willing to do what these guys do.

El Rey De Pollo
04-24-08, 23:12
Cubanito,

And how does your writer buddy manage to stay in Cuba for 4 years? Does he has a license as a journalist with the foreign press or...?

Way I've always seen it: The only realistic way to stay in Cuba for an extended period of say more than a year is diplomacy, media/journalism or full time studying. However, I may be wrong, allthough it still sounds like a hazzle that I woouldn't wanna go through.


personally who has stayed in Cuba for a year. Granted the way he did it was costly. He would get on a flight out of Cuba to Cancun and return the same day. This was back in 2003. The cost o fthe flight back then was $200 dollars. I also know of another writer (American) who wrote a book about where White people came from. The Book is very controvesial because he say that white people came from in-breeding of two Black people. Anyway he has been living in Cuba for 4 years now. I just saw him in March when I was down in Cuba.

So you cna stay in Cuba for a long time if you are willing to do what these guys do.

El Rey De Pollo
04-24-08, 23:13
I'm off to Havana in a few days by the way, so I'll have about a month there to do a little studying of the issue. As well as other issues of a more feminin kind...

Hasta luego

El Cubanito
04-25-08, 12:51
He does the old in-out thing. He leaves Cuba and comes back the same day via Cancun and get another license. I know that this is a hassle, but he does it and he lives very well I may add.

He pays about $550 dollars a month on a nice studio en Vedado with his own private bath. I have mention the casa before. The casa is very nice and the owner gives him a breakfast every morning for that price. He is part of their family now. He has a girlfriend in Havana, in Pinar de Rio, in Mataza, in Santa Clara (I am in Love with this girl). He a girl all over the Island. I told him as long as his dick DOES NOT get one of these girls pregnant he is ok.

Travelling Gring, I hope you have a nice trip and do enjoy your trip. If you need anything send me a private message.

El Rey De Pollo
04-25-08, 23:19
Cubanito, I think I'll be good, but thanks for the offer. All I need is actually a car at a reasonable price, and since I remember you like to rent with Rex, you probably can't help me there. They are too expensive for me. Hope some of my caro-chulos in Vedado will come through.

Tattle
04-26-08, 01:03
That he leaves: is that at the end of the 90 or 180 days on the original visa?


He does the old in-out thing. He leaves Cuba and comes back the same day via Cancun and get another license. I know that this is a hassle, but he does it and he lives very well I may add.

He pays about $550 dollars a month on a nice studio en Vedado with his own private bath. I have mention the casa before. The casa is very nice and the owner gives him a breakfast every morning for that price. He is part of their family now. He has a girlfriend in Havana, in Pinar de Rio, in Mataza, in Santa Clara (I am in Love with this girl). He a girl all over the Island. I told him as long as his dick DOES NOT get one of these girls pregnant he is ok.

Travelling Gring, I hope you have a nice trip and do enjoy your trip. If you need anything send me a private message.

El Cubanito
04-28-08, 12:33
He leave after 90 days and come back.

BeersTerry
04-28-08, 13:51
90 ? I thought the visa was good for 30 days + 30 day renewal.
Canadians are allowed 90 days + 90 day renewal.

Kdogg21
04-28-08, 15:50
90 ? I thought the visa was good for 30 days + 30 day renewal.
Canadians are allowed 90 days + 90 day renewal.On a Tourist card yes

http://embacu.cubaminrex.cu/Default.aspx?tabid=1183

Tattle
05-15-08, 12:19
Does anyone know what medical treatment is available to Canadians living in Cuba: full or ' mostly ' full time: married or not married to a cuban:

I know there is ' tourist ' medical but not sure of the ways to access it: and what about the ' cuban ' system for the rest of the population: is it accessable to us?

Thanks

DriedUp
05-15-08, 22:13
I wanted to go to Cuba this summer, in June. With a likely new job I may not.

I also want to wait for this dual currency to be taken out.

I went down before this dual currency, and things were cheaper.

I want to wait and see if things will go back to that.

I think it may when Bush is out.

BeersTerry
05-16-08, 14:37
By Cuba, I guess you mean Havana as the medical facilties will be crap unless near tourist facilities. You can access free cuban facilities if you are willing to wait endlessly in line......or you can jump the que by paying. Better yet, just go to the hospital servicing foreigners.

El Chico
05-16-08, 18:10
Does anyone know what medical treatment is available to Canadians living in Cuba: full or ' mostly ' full time: married or not married to a cuban:

I know there is ' tourist ' medical but not sure of the ways to access it: and what about the ' cuban ' system for the rest of the population: is it accessable to us?
The are some first rate medical facilities used by foreigners and tourists in Havana, primarily Hospital Cira Garcia. Unless your dirt poor, there is no reason to go to the regular hospitals as they are generally run down and low on supplies.

If you just want to visit the hospital from time to time for minor things, than just show up. The costs are relatively inexpensive ($40 for a regular Dr. visit). If you want to be covered for a major medical emergency, then you can subscribe to Assistur which will cover you for everything within Cuba and costs about $800/year depending on your age.

However, if you are a Canadian that is living in Cuba, you probably want to break your ties with Canada to avoid paying Canadian Tax. Therefore, you should cancel your provincial health insurance. In this case, you will want to get world wide health insurance, disability and life insurance to be fully covered. Expats can be fully covered by a Canadian Insurer for about $5,000/year (a lot less than the tax savings) or get your company to pay it.

Doc Bill
05-22-08, 07:43
Hola Mi Socios!

I've been away from the board for awhile, but will be heading back once more to Fidel and Raul's playground in the next couple of months. Awhile back I posted in the Havana section a report on my last trip, and I got some good feedback. Well I've started writing and collecting info and articles about Cuba and putting it on my blog. I hope this is kosher with you all and Jackson - if it's not just delete it - But for some perspectives on a range of issues relating to Cuba it might be helpful, or at least thought-provoking. You can just go straight to the Cuba archive and ignore the other stuff. It's www.drbillsblog.com. Enjoy, and feedback is welcome!

Now where are my friends? Cubanito? Petroleo? Havanaman? Are any of you going anytime soon?

Suerte,

DB

El Cubanito
05-23-08, 13:17
I went to Cuba in March for a week. I was planning to go for 3 weeks but work would not allow me to. I found plenty of game in the surrounding cities around Havana. Places like Catalina de Guines, Guines, San Jose de Las Lajas. I also found a ton of game in Santa Clara. I went to visit this sweet honey that I have known now for 6 years. She is a very sweet girl. She has a local novio/husband. But we did manage to get away from him for a Afternoon delight. I was planning in hanging around the campos around Florida, Cuba, but I got a phone a call that I had to return. The last time I was in Cuba 3 years ago I made an emergency landing in these campos and area around Florida and I hit a gold mine as far as quality of goods. I really wanted to come here but I did not make it.

You ask when will I return, well I will return in Late July, early august. Plan to attend Carnival in Santiago. Plus, as you know Doc it my Father Death anniversary on August 1. I plan in being in Cuba for his 5th Anniversary on August 1. Do u want to meet and hang around Santiago? Santiago area is a TON OF FUN WITH THE GIRLS!

El Cubanito

Tattle
05-23-08, 13:47
Is the report of Dr Bill true:I was there recently and had no problems and neithere did i see this problem; any comment ?

Doc Bill
05-24-08, 10:06
Tattle: I'm glad you had a good time. If you didn't see any of these problems then you weren't looking, or you were looking away. After 12 trips and 8 years I can't help seeing them. What can I say?

Cubanito - YES! Let's plan to meet in Santiago in August. That would be perfect for me! I would love the company and would be honored to pay respects to your father. Please PM me with the details. I can go legally now so I'm free to go whenever I want. And I miss Oriente!

Suerte,

Doc

Kalifornication
05-27-08, 01:20
Bill, Bill Bill, ....

Why not just go visit Haiti while you are at it? Or DR, damn, pick any poor non-socialist county. I suppose you would discover, given their relative free markets (free to western exploitation), that the poor folk -who are the majority- are just jumping for joy! They perhaps can just jump on any airline and visit the so-called free world at their leisure right? And I am certain they have full access to health care yes? Those poor Cubans, ... they have it so bad right? Things are just falling apart right? Bill, if you have not opened your eyes yet, then I cannot pretend to assit you, ... but, there is no crime in being poor. And by western standards, i suppose Cuba is poor. But I too have been to Cuba -and not just the tourist junkits- and they are far far better off than their neighbors.

But then again, who am I, ... just a pinko communist. But I'd never trust a smuck that panders to Miami.

Tattle
05-27-08, 02:09
Good reply and well founded.

Kalifornication
05-27-08, 03:40
Did I say "smuck" ... ? LOL

BeersTerry
05-27-08, 15:08
a cuban dies and finds himself at heaven gates, he peeks in and sees happy and serene people sitting around.

peter says come in my son, so the cuban says, "well sir, i've seen heaven and it looks pretty good, but what is hell like?" peter says, "well if you want, go have a look and then decide."

the cuban goes to hell's gate , two beautiful, well endowed mulatas greet him, he can hear music and people having fun. the two mulattas take him in and it is the best music he has ever heard. the dancing and the sex was incredible.

the cuban is taken back to heaven, where peter asks , "have you decided, heaven or hell ?"

he says, i am sorry sir, but i have decided hell. peter is disappointed but says so be it.

the cuban is taken back to hell ,where two bearded demons with hideous faces are waiting for him, they poke him in the ass with a fork and pushed him into the searing heat. the cuban starts screaming and asking for the the boss.

satan shows up and asks, "what is the matter?" the cuban says, "i was here a little while ago and there was drinking, music, dancing and sex. it was a lot of fun, so i decided to come here and now i am being tortured !

satan asks, "so why do you complain? you are a cuban, you know very well it is one thing is to be a tourist here and another to live in the place."

Smily59
05-27-08, 17:54
How much are these brands in Habana? Just want to know if I should better buy some in the plane.

Hope its apropiate to post this at General Info

Thanx smily

Kalifornication
05-28-08, 03:44
a cuban dies and finds himself at heaven gates, he peeks in and sees happy and serene people sitting around.

peter says come in my son, so the cuban says, "well sir, i've seen heaven and it looks pretty good, but what is hell like?" peter says, "well if you want, go have a look and then decide."

the cuban goes to hell's gate , two beautiful, well endowed mulatas greet him, he can hear music and people having fun. the two mulattas take him in and it is the best music he has ever heard. the dancing and the sex was incredible.

the cuban is taken back to heaven, where peter asks , "have you decided, heaven or hell ?"

he says, i am sorry sir, but i have decided hell. peter is disappointed but says so be it.

the cuban is taken back to hell ,where two bearded demons with hideous faces are waiting for him, they poke him in the ass with a fork and pushed him into the searing heat. the cuban starts screaming and asking for the the boss.

satan shows up and asks, "what is the matter?" the cuban says, "i was here a little while ago and there was drinking, music, dancing and sex. it was a lot of fun, so i decided to come here and now i am being tortured !

satan asks, "so why do you complain? you are a cuban, you know very well it is one thing is to be a tourist here and another to live in the place."

so cuba is hell? get real. so let me add this up, the usa, israel and you. that makes three (3). the rest of the world is pretty much ok with cuba. hmmmm, i guess the majority is just silly not to follow your lead. oh, but you were just offering a joke rikght? and i am just a pinko commie, so excuse me.

viva fidel!

PincheCabron
05-28-08, 04:00
Someone needs to go to cuba right now and get laid. Anyway Marlboroughs just cost slightly more than a dollar cuc from what I remember. Sadly I quit smoking which is one more reason not to go these days lol. When they get rid of that dual currency cuba may become attractive again.

Kalifornication
05-28-08, 04:05
Bill, just read your blog entry: http://drbillsblog.com/ , wow, ... your are the real deal Miami cowboy.

The blog was a little short on substance and a bit too heavy on the anti-Castro propaganda, ... but hey, ... I'd expect no less.

What I find entertaining is that folk of your persuasion find every little excuse to justify why Fidel has held on to power so long, ... yet, ... he is still there. But correction, ... it appears he has bowed-out on his own terms. That must really frustrate you folk, ... si?

Oh well.

Always yours Bill, your loyal communist pinko liberal who is too too tired of you dated anti-castro anti-cuba arguments.

Kalifornication
05-28-08, 16:42
Someone needs to go to cuba right now and get laid. Anyway Marlboroughs just cost slightly more than a dollar cuc from what I remember. Sadly I quit smoking which is one more reason not to go these days lol. When they get rid of that dual currency cuba may become attractive again.


Mr. Cabron, hmmmmm, .... yes you are right! :)

But after a bit of investigation re your past posts, you seem like a level headed individual with a keen understanding of the good and the bad of Cuba. You likely have just as keen an understanding of the good and the bad of the USA.

Member #4167
05-28-08, 17:34
The costs are relatively inexpensive ($40 for a regular Dr. visit). .I just got back from 7 weeks in Cuba. Had two minor medical problems. I made three visits to various local hospitals/policlinicos (the same facilities used by regular cubans) in Provincia Matanzas. I also used the pharmacies that the regular cubans used.

WAIT TIME: I never had to wait - I immediately saw the Doctor all three times.
COST: I never was charged for the visits.
QUALITY: Quality seemed on par with western quality.
MEDICINES: The most expensive medicine cost 50 cents per bottle.
SHORTAGES: This was the only sore spot. I went to the pharmacies used by regular cubans. Fortunately, the most important meds were avail. However, about half of the meds prescribed were not immediately available. I was fortunate that these were meds that were auxiliarly to my treatment.

My experience is based on urgent care / emergency treatment. You have to pay for routine office visits.

Member #4167
05-28-08, 18:04
Any info regarding the easing up on restrictions for cubans on hotel properties & fellow mongers using it 2 ones advantage has taken place yet.I went to cuba in April and early May. I went all over the island from the Oriente to the Occidente.

The law permitting cubans on hotel properties is official and applies to the entire island. In nearly all areas that I encountered, the hotel had absolutely no problem whatsoever registering a Cubana. The only exception was in Vinales, where a cuban told me that they prohibit cubanas sharing hotel rooms specifically in Vinales. This was second hand info from a tout. Maybe he was bs-ing me to drive me into a CP and get his $5 Casa PArticular commission. In all other areas of the island I had no problem registering a cubana in either a hotel room or a casa particular.

Your bigger problem is this: if your "novia" has registered with other extranjeros and/or she has a history with the police involving jinterismo, SHE will refuse to register in a hotel or casa particular. In this case, you will have to find an illegal casa particular that rents by the hour. Cuban-locals price: $2 for 2 hours. Tourist price $5 for two hours. Or, you can have car sex.

BeersTerry
05-30-08, 02:17
Do you have your head so far up your ass that you can't recognize a universal joke ? Should you unclench those ass cheeks so oxygen will get to the brain.

Member #4167
05-30-08, 15:20
Do you have your head so far up your ass that you can't recognize a universal joke ? Should you unclench those ass cheeks so oxygen will get to the brain.Pardon me, Beersterry - what are you talking about?

But were you responding to me?

Member #4167
06-02-08, 12:54
... I've been to the DR and apart from Brazil, which is pretty damn far from the west coast, there really is no other mongering destination comparable so close.

If I lived in NY or florida I would be in brazil every other month.PincheCabron - I thought Brazilian and Dominican providers were expensive? are you saying that when comparing DR vs Brazil vs Cuba, that Brazil wins hands down?

PincheCabron
06-06-08, 15:49
PincheCabron - I thought Brazilian and Dominican providers were expensive? are you saying that when comparing DR vs Brazil vs Cuba, that Brazil wins hands down?

In terms of quality and quanity Brazil has no equal in my opinion. If the dollar was trading the way it was a few years ago brazil would be a much better option. Comparable to cuba before the %18 exchange rip off. But now on average brazil is more expensive. The dollar is in better shape in the DR. I was in cuba last march and honestly the returns are getting less and less. I go strictly for normal girls or semi pro which is why cuba was my favorite destination. I'm curious though how lucky were you in getting chicas to come to the hotel with you?

Member #4167
06-06-08, 17:23
I was in cuba last march and honestly the returns are getting less and less. I go strictly for normal girls or semi pro which is why cuba was my favorite destination. I'm curious though how lucky were you in getting chicas to come to the hotel with you?Pinche, I agree with you that the returns are getting less and less in Cuba.

Before I answer your question, first a few qualifiers: Like you, I go mainly for normal girls or semi pro. Secondly, there is no difference, registration-wise between a hotel and a legal casa particular. Since the new law, cubanas are allowed to stay in a hotel, if they register. For the girl to register the risks are the same hotel vs legal casa particular.

Pro vs semi-pro/non-pro status: This is the greatest determining factor. Irregardless of location/geography, pros are nearly 100% reluctant to register. Non-pros are nearly 100% willing to register.

Exception: The worst city was Cienfuegos. Both pros and non-pros were unwilling to register.

Given your penchant for non-pros/semi-pros you should have no problem.

Paul Frankl
06-15-08, 18:03
Hello everyone! For years I have been curious about visiting Cuba. Love the culture, grew up in Miami, speak pretty good Spanish.

I met a Colombiana and we want to meet somewhere centrally located for a long weekend and I think Cuba might be spectacular, exotic, beautiful, culturally stimulating.

What I am looking for is is to find an amazing place to stay, very nice room, large terrace, excellent service. We are not married, just novios (me 58, she 25). Can we register? I work super hard, need some real massage time, excellent healthy food. Want to be catered to a little. Tour the island, find some amazing secluded playas, and be safe always.

I don't exactly know how to get into the country, but will search the posts. If there is anyone out there that can help me design a fantastic, relaxing visit to Cuba, your ideas will be deeply appreciated!

Thanks!

El Rey De Pollo
06-15-08, 22:24
Not sure Cuba would be the right choice: Much hazzle for Americans travelling to Cuba and a world away from excellent healthy food.

Why Cuba?

Sylvester
06-16-08, 02:15
Hello everyone! For years I have been curious about visiting Cuba. Love the culture, grew up in Miami, speak pretty good Spanish.

I met a Colombiana and we want to meet somewhere centrally located for a long weekend and I think Cuba might be spectacular, exotic, beautiful, culturally stimulating.

What I am looking for is is to find an amazing place to stay, very nice room, large terrace, excellent service. We are not married, just novios (me 58, she 25). Can we register? I work super hard, need some real massage time, excellent healthy food. Want to be catered to a little. Tour the island, find some amazing secluded playas, and be safe always.

I don't exactly know how to get into the country, but will search the posts. If there is anyone out there that can help me design a fantastic, relaxing visit to Cuba, your ideas will be deeply appreciated!

Thanks!


This is a lot of hassle and wasted expense. She will need a visa to travel to Cuba. There is no guarantee she can get one. Meet her in Colombia, or San Andres, or Panama. These are places she can travel to quite easily.

Member #4167
06-16-08, 14:55
What I am looking for is is to find an amazing place to stay, very nice room, large terrace, excellent service. We are not married, just novios (me 58, she 25). Can we register? I work super hard, need some real massage time, excellent healthy food. Want to be catered to a little. Tour the island, find some amazing secluded playas, and be safe always.Can you both register? Yes.
Is it safe? Yes.
Excellent healthy food? No.

I work super hard, need some real massage time, excellent healthy food.
Maybe you can find this in an all-inclusive in Guardalavaca. cuba is just not known for this type of gourmet, pampering, luxury you are looking for. Things may change as I have read they are looking to build some 5 star resorts in Cuba.

Overall, I agree with Travelling Gringo and Sly. It is problematic to travel to Cuba for US citizens. Getting there and back is a big hassle. Because you have to travel via another country, you will lose a full day each way in travel. If you want convenience, service and pampering, Cuba is not the place to go.

As for food in Cuba. People say "the food in Cuba sucks." they are correct. Other people say "I have had some great meals in Cuba" they are ALSO correct. Here are your venues for meals in Cuba, from worst to best:

1. Cuban Peso Restaurants: You can eat for 0.50 - 1.00. The food is mostly horrid. Flys everywhere. The worst food in the world.

2. Street Vendors (Kiosks, Stands). Bargain prices. Typically all you can find are ham sandwiches with very little meat and pizza. I bought three ham sandwiches, threw away the bread on two and combined the meat. The only good food on the street is the ice cream. Especially coppelia. A bargain too.

I have been to other third world countries where I have had excellent food from street vendors. The street vendor food in Cuba is the worst I have ever experiences.

3. El Rapido/Other Fast-Food Chains: In terms of taste/quality, well below the level of Fast-Food chains in the western world. Very limited selection. Fried food is the norm. Unhealthy. They are frequently out of everything. Fried food is big. Unhealthy.

4. Restaurants (Non-State run). I have had excellent meals and some so-so meals. Mostly they were good.

5. Paladares. Private restaurants run in someone's home. I have never had a bad meal at a paladar. Most were good. Some were excellent.

6. Casa Particulars. I had some of my best meals eating in the casas I stayed in. Quality/Taste varies depending on the skills of the casera. Pricing is all over the board. I have had casas charging $10/day for the meals. One wanted to charge $30/day. Outside of Havana, the attitude seems to be "If you want to be guaranteed three squares of day, I have a monopoly. My price is X: take it or leave it."

If you want platable food, the big lack is convenience. You have to plan your days around your meals. Restaurants are not open as early in the morning or as late at nite as in Western Countries.

While traveling about the country. If you are on the go, or you get hungry after hours, your choices are stark: El Rapido or Street Vendors. Most of the time all that was available was a pizza or paltry ham sandwiches. and then you feel lucky when you can find it. Like other third world countries, cuba is not set up for eating on the run.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Paul Frankl
06-16-08, 22:16
This is a lot of hassle and wasted expense. She will need a visa to travel to Cuba. There is no guarantee she can get one. Meet her in Colombia, or San Andres, or Panama. These are places she can travel to quite easily.Thank you both. This easily proves the value of the experienced helping others through this forum.

BeersTerry
06-17-08, 14:01
I don't remember exactly, but isn't Cuba one of the countries a colombian can travel to relatively easily ? That said, why would you want to do that ?

El Rey De Pollo
06-17-08, 23:36
Water Boys breakdown of food in Cuba is very accurate.

However, I have been wondering in the last few days, why just about every post from Water Boy has the editors note to make a link... Who puts these at the bottom?

While I think your contributions are valuable, Water Boy, I am not sure every post is a small piece of the long lost bible on Cuban mongering.

Just wondering what's up with that.

Member #4167
06-18-08, 15:42
Water Boys breakdown of food in Cuba is very accurate.
Thank you, TG, I Appreciate the kudos. You are most kind to say so.


However, I have been wondering in the last few days, why just about every post from Water Boy has the editors note to make a link. Who puts these at the bottom? I, Water Boy, am NOT the one who is making these links.

This link suggestion is done by Jackson or the forum administrator.

El Rey De Pollo
06-18-08, 20:02
Okay, like I said, was just wondering. You must be very popular with the incrowd :-)


Thank you, TG, I Appreciate the kudos. You are most kind to say so.

I, Water Boy, am NOT the one who is making these links.

This link suggestion is done by Jackson or the forum administrator.

Sylvester
06-18-08, 23:29
I don't remember exactly, but isn't Cuba one of the countries a colombian can travel to relatively easily ? That said, why would you want to do that ?

Colombian nationals do require a visa to enter Cuba. Im not sure on how easy it is to obtain. I do know Panama is very easy for Colombians to enter.

Sylvester
06-18-08, 23:52
Thank you both. This easily proves the value of the experienced helping others through this forum.

If you are set on Cuba, I would suggest going alone. No need to bring sand to the beach. Lots of cubanitas right there for the sampling !

If you are travelling specifically to met up with the colombiana, goto Colombia.
I would suggest Cartagena. There are some nice upscale hotels there. The beach is not the best, but a short boat trip to the Rosario Islands will remedy that.

Wherever you go, there will be all sorts of talent for the taking, really no need to settle down with just one chica. Variety, keep that concept in mind.

Smokers Rule
06-27-08, 06:20
Do most Cuban women smoke? I have found that most women in the rest of the Caribbean don't. I enjoy young women who smoke, especially cigars, and was wondering what I might be able to find on my upcoming trip.

Thanks!

DriedUp
06-27-08, 07:05
I have noticed that many girls, women, females, in Cuba smoke.

Strong unfiltered too.

Mostly cigarettes. Old, seniors, chomp on cigars.

Member #4167
06-27-08, 18:30
Do most Cuban women smoke? I have found that most women in the rest of the Caribbean don't. I enjoy young women who smoke, especially cigars, and was wondering what I might be able to find on my upcoming trip.

Thanks!Alot do smoke. I would say 50%. It seems to me that cuban women generally don't have the health concerns as do those in developed countries.

El Rey De Pollo
06-27-08, 23:51
They smoke when theres a yuma around with cigarettes :-)

Never seen any hot cubanas smoking cigars. But I am sure - if theres no website out there to fullfill your fantasies - that you can convince some of them to puff away (if you supply...)

Smokers Rule
06-28-08, 06:39
Thank you my friends. Looks good for the upcoming trip.

Tattle
07-09-08, 13:13
I am considering staying in Cuba for up to 6 months at a time: In Ontario our OHIP runs out after doing that for 2 times: thus, I need to know what you guys know about long term health insurance, whether i need it in Cuba and where to access such insurance:

Canadian, frequent traveller to the island and planning to stay much longer in the future.

Thanks for your assistance once again;

Smokers Rule
07-20-08, 16:24
When making a reservation on COPA or TACA, I believe they allow you to use a U.S. credit card to reserve a flight from a gateway to Cuba. Is this true? Is there any danger in doing this?

Digital Curry
07-28-08, 19:19
I was in Cuba in April and May 2008. Things have changed. It costs much more now, for lower quality girls. You can still find GFE, but more girls have bad attitudes. I was fined $30 CUC ($40 USA) by Police for driving. Years ago, no way I would get that type of fine. The country is just less friendly.

Before you didn't need Spanish, now it is much more difficult without Spanish. (I speak Spanish) Now you need a rental car. This adds a huge expense and there are always driving hassles. The Problems with bringing girls to your house are ridiculous. This adds cost and hassles and slows down mongering.

It is becoming very expensive and there is not much to do there. I would like suggestions on other places to go. If anyone has good suggestions, please send me a private message.

El Rey De Pollo
07-30-08, 12:11
Was there same time this year. April, May and June. Unfortunately I have to second this report. Things have worsened a lot and the tourist-scamming industry is getting worse by the day. Below my casa balcony, at an intersection in Vedado, I am not kidding you, there was basically a rental car with a tourist parked 24 hours a day being fined and hazzled by police.

Anyway, I still like it there, and got my fair share, but it was more difficult to handle all the getting-pussy-practicalities than it ever was before.

Unfortunately I don't see it getting better. As more changes are implied cubans turn their mindset towards the west. Girls are getting more pro, GFE is getting harder to find, more pimps are now in the streets and girls are becomming organized. And what's gonna happen if Obama is elected president and he lifts or lightens the travel ban on Americans. Then the Cuba that we know will really be toast.


I was in Cuba in April and May 2008. Things have changed. It costs much more now, for lower quality girls. You can still find GFE, but more girls have bad attitudes. I was fined $30 CUC ($40 USA) by Police for driving. Years ago, no way I would get that type of fine. The country is just less friendly.

Before you didn't need Spanish, now it is much more difficult without Spanish. (I speak Spanish) Now you need a rental car. This adds a huge expense and there are always driving hassles. The Problems with bringing girls to your house are ridiculous. This adds cost and hassles and slows down mongering.

It is becoming very expensive and there is not much to do there. I would like suggestions on other places to go. If anyone has good suggestions, please send me a private message.

PincheCabron
07-30-08, 17:46
Gringo,

I'll make the a case for having the travel ban lifted. Sure asking prices for getting laid for cuba could go up. For Pros definitely and semi pros. These are the girls I've always avoided from day 1 in cuba anyway so it's a non issue for me. There's gonna be tons of springbreak yokels from bumfuck arizona looking for hoes in that 98 degree sun in havana and coming up with zilch because Raul has completely cracked down. When they do find some puta in a club somewhere you can bet the police are getting a cut. Now the benefits of being in cuba legally for a gringo in the know are worth it. We can go to cuba for a whole lot cheaper. No more jumping from nassau or mexico and wasting extra days in a country you don't want to be in. There will be price wars for fares to cuba and eventually you can fly directly to any city you want to. Canadians are flying to the oriente for how much I pay weekly for gas. How many times have you had to think about how much money you have left and being worried the money you left in your casa is still there. I would definitely feel better renting a car if I had a credit card as a backup. Americans will most likely go for package trips to varadero or cayo coco as they do in cancun and the DR. The interior of the island will remain the same as americans do not like going to places with no hot showers and burger king. It'll get ugly definitely at first but it'll calm down. Sure the adventure that was cuba will diminish. But I for one can live without it at this stage. It looks like cuba will be socialist for a looong time so I don't think things will change too radically at least until Raul bites it. FYI I just got back from Santiago and had a blast. Best trip in a long time.


Was there same time this year. April, May and June. Unfortunately I have to second this report. Things have worsened a lot and the tourist-scamming industry is getting worse by the day. Below my casa balcony, at an intersection in Vedado, I am not kidding you, there was basically a rental car with a tourist parked 24 hours a day being fined and hazzled by police.

Anyway, I still like it there, and got my fair share, but it was more difficult to handle all the getting-pussy-practicalities than it ever was before.

Unfortunately I don't see it getting better. As more changes are implied cubans turn their mindset towards the west. Girls are getting more pro, GFE is getting harder to find, more pimps are now in the streets and girls are becomming organized. And what's gonna happen if Obama is elected president and he lifts or lightens the travel ban on Americans. Then the Cuba that we know will really be toast.

El Rey De Pollo
07-30-08, 23:14
Interesting take. I agree with most of it. I have pretty much seen Cuba transform from a country with 800,000 tourists a year to a country that this year will surpass 3.5 mio. tourists. About four times as much. I would say that within the same timespan Cuban girls have turned about four times as cold.

I have no interest myself in pros and semi-pros. But I'm not sure Varadero can accommodate 1.5 million Americans a year. I can already see them riding around in cars in every small town in Cuba looking for pussy. And what about Havana 40 minutes from Miami?

Hey, I have nothing against Americans at all, they just take up a lot of space sometime. They have every island in the Caribean invaded, so I can do without in Cuba :-)

But we'll see what Raul and Obama (who said odd couple?) can work out together. Both of them have already stated that they would be ready to meet up. Yes, Cuba will officially stay socialist for many years to come, but the people turned capitalist years ago and are not looking back.


Gringo,

I'll make the a case for having the travel ban lifted. Sure asking prices for getting laid for cuba could go up. For Pros definitely and semi pros. These are the girls I've always avoided from day 1 in cuba anyway so it's a non issue for me. There's gonna be tons of springbreak yokels from bumfuck arizona looking for hoes in that 98 degree sun in havana and coming up with zilch because Raul has completely cracked down. When they do find some puta in a club somewhere you can bet the police are getting a cut. Now the benefits of being in cuba legally for a gringo in the know are worth it. We can go to cuba for a whole lot cheaper. No more jumping from nassau or mexico and wasting extra days in a country you don't want to be in. There will be price wars for fares to cuba and eventually you can fly directly to any city you want to. Canadians are flying to the oriente for how much I pay weekly for gas. How many times have you had to think about how much money you have left and being worried the money you left in your casa is still there. I would definitely feel better renting a car if I had a credit card as a backup. Americans will most likely go for package trips to varadero or cayo coco as they do in cancun and the DR. The interior of the island will remain the same as americans do not like going to places with no hot showers and burger king. It'll get ugly definitely at first but it'll calm down. Sure the adventure that was cuba will diminish. But I for one can live without it at this stage. It looks like cuba will be socialist for a looong time so I don't think things will change too radically at least until Raul bites it. FYI I just got back from Santiago and had a blast. Best trip in a long time.

QuackUp
07-31-08, 10:46
Has anyone visiting Cuba, taken advantage of bringing a local back to your hotel? If so, was there any hassles or some small print that made it dificult?

Thanks in advance,

Q

Smokers Rule
07-31-08, 14:50
I have never been to Cuba, but there are multiple posts about this. Read the forum. Reader's digest: It can be done, but it almost always requires a bribe.


Has anyone visiting Cuba, taken advantage of bringing a local back to your hotel? If so, was there any hassles or some small print that made it dificult?

Thanks in advance,

Q

Member #4167
07-31-08, 22:52
I agree with Digital Curry. I still believe that a rental car may not be necesary in some cities, But in many places a rental car is a must have and also a chica attractant. Digital Curry is right, in many areas it seems like cubanas are only attracted to guys with cars.

I never got fined by the cuban cops. One time they pulled me over & checked to see if all my papers were in order.

Driving in Cuban cities is stressful. There are no road signs. You have to stop every mile or so to get a new set of directions. Then of course the person asked always wants a ride, which I usually do.

Driving on the autopista is pretty much a piece of cake, because of extremely low traffic. Watch out for slow moving vehicles and horse carriages.

Here is the problem with a rental car: if you park one overnite in the big city. You are almost guaranteed it will get robbed or vandalized. You should pay a jinitero 1-2 CUC and he will guard your car all nite. I have seen it: the guy literally stays awake all nite in a chair near your car. I am amazed that a young guy will guard your car all nite for $1, but a cubana needs 40.50 CUC to sleep with you a few hours. Must be due to the crackdown. As jiniteras get sent to prison if caught.

Having a car in Cuba just to get girls seems like a big chore and expense. How come we don't need cars in other major mongering destinations?

Trafalgar2
08-01-08, 04:14
Hi Quackup,

If you want to know about slipping a girl into your hotel room discreetly, I guess the reports about having to bribe are still up to date. What I can tell you from my own experience (Varadero this June) is that if you arrive at a hotel or A. I. Resort together with a local girl there is absolutely no problem checking in with her. No questions asked, just like in any legal casa particular. Of course, she needs ID and will be registered, and that might cause difficulties with girls who already have been with other tourists. So you better ask her before, if she's willing to register.

QuackUp
08-01-08, 09:23
Hi Trafalgar,

Thats the answer I was looking for. I'am thinking about taking my girl to Varadero in November. Thanks again for the reply.

Q

Tattle
08-01-08, 21:05
Does anyone have experience with the Airport money exchanges and getting counterfeit CUC bills: especially the 20 and 50 denominations:

I got two 50CUC counterfieit bills and think they came from my money exchange at Havana Marti airport:

Insights?

PincheCabron
08-02-08, 16:48
Wow you'd expect that to happen out in the streets not at the airport. When did you find out they were counterfeit and who informed you. I tend to change as little as possible at the airport and prefer the hotels.


Does anyone have experience with the Airport money exchanges and getting counterfeit CUC bills: especially the 20 and 50 denominations:

I got two 50CUC counterfieit bills and think they came from my money exchange at Havana Marti airport:

Insights?

Tattle
08-02-08, 17:38
I gave some money to a buddy there and when he tried to use it to purchase goods he got the message that the bills were false:

El Rey De Pollo
08-03-08, 12:19
Were you there when he tried to use them? How well do you know him? All i'm saying is that if the answer to these two questions is 'no' and 'fairly well to pretty well', he may just say that to get more money?

I have found that the only two real buddies I have in Cuba are the two who have never asked me for money. Sure, I leave stuff with them, bring some electronics as gifts, but they never ask me for anything. If you're giving money to the guy already, what is to prevent him from trying to get a little more by claiming that the money you gave him did not do him any good?

I don't know your buddy. He may be straight up. But from where I'm sitting I trust the airport cadeca more than your buddy when it comes to cash. Not that I trust anybody dealing with cash in Cuba too much...


I gave some money to a buddy there and when he tried to use it to purchase goods he got the message that the bills were false:

PincheCabron
08-03-08, 16:59
I would definitely get a second opinion on the ground. Whoever told your friend that possibly didn't want to change those bills for whatever reason and told him they were counterfeit to get rid of him. As gringo mentioned how well do you know this "buddy". I would backtrack to where he went and find out.


I gave some money to a buddy there and when he tried to use it to purchase goods he got the message that the bills were false:

BeersTerry
08-04-08, 02:52
While I have not been scammed by the bank, my first suspicion would be of your 'fren'. I have seen some extraordinary scams pulled by Cubans, not that they were complicated but the amount of time and effort they would invest in gaining your confidence.


The reason I would find that the ATM is issuing counterfeit money hard to believe:
The general rule in Cuba is, you need to steal to survive BUT you don't steal from Fidel because that means trouble (I don't mean the falling off the back of the truck stuff as there seems to be a tolerance for that). Putting counterfeit money into an ATM would be traceable back to specific people.

El Grande
08-04-08, 18:55
If this "buddy" was Cuban I'd say he scammed you. The people at the cadeca woudn't give you counterfait money and risk to loose their job. They have one of the best jobs you get there. They live better on the tips as a Cuban medic.

There are similar scams.

Oldest one: Cubans change you Pesos "better than bank". What you get for your $ is lots of pesos, but CUP.

Second oldest one: They sell you a red 3 CUP bill with the Che on it. "Only 2 dollars, they are very seldom and tourists can't change CUPs." Bullshit! Just go to a Cadeca and you get 7 of it for a CUC. Or go to a fruit market, buy an apple and ask for 3 peso bills as change (or coins whatever you're after).

Never tell a frien' to get you stuff. He mostly returns with what you wanted but not exactly what you wanted. They always get you the cheap substitute and keep the change.

There's a million scams just don't trust anybody.

Questner
09-08-08, 04:07
Overstay, it's still cheaper to wait than to pay the way out.

How do you know her exact DOB? I doubt you have seen her birth certificate.

Do not pay her. Remember that rule number one for a traveller is safety, do not compromise it.

El Rey De Pollo
09-08-08, 20:52
Why do you doubt I have seen her carnet? Off course I have. I don't spend 10 minutes with any cuban girl without seeing her carnet.

Pay her? She doesn't want money and I don't intend to.

Brother, thanks for responding, but I'm not looking for rookie-advice for a first time trip to Cuba...


Overstay, it's still cheaper to wait than to pay the way out.

How do you know her exact DOB? I doubt you have seen her birth certificate.

Do not pay her. Remember that rule number one for a traveller is safety, do not compromise it.

Balluba
09-08-08, 21:45
Brother, thanks for responding, but I'm not looking for rookie-advice for a first time trip to Cuba...

What kind of answer will You have ? If it is not legal, then its not.

But, if there are no payments involved, then it should be legal, at least You can not be punished in Your own country, afterwards.

I think I have read that some countries (in SEA?) count the girl eg. 16 or 18 from the year (01.01.) they become this age, not on the exact birthday. Maybe someone else can verify this?

Questner
09-08-08, 22:20
In SEA, say in Thailand, dates are on a buddhist calendar, so it's easier for a falang to know she is more than 18 and not exact date of birth.

El Rey De Pollo
09-09-08, 00:06
What kind of answer will You have ?

Just a qualified one. One that comes from someone who has knowledge - or at least a basic idea or have heard something - that is relevant to my actual question. More in the line of yours.

I dont think they count from 01.01 though. In that case I have said 'adios' to too many beautiful girls in Cuba :-)

I know it's illegal. If no payment is involved, it is still illegal. My main question is probably whether it is enforced when the girl is a few days or weeks short of 18.

But I'm probably not going to get a solid answer with info I don't allready know myself unless someone from the Cuban justice ministry drops by...

La Isla
09-09-08, 00:33
My main question is probably whether it is enforced when the girl is a few days or weeks short of 18.

The real question my man is "Are you willing to find out the answer"? I should hope not, especially in Cuba.
Do yourself a favor. Don't go if you are tempted until you are 110% sure she is 18.

Maxima Man
09-13-08, 11:30
Just a qualified one. One that comes from someone who has knowledge - or at least a basic idea or have heard something - that is relevant to my actual question. More in the line of yours.

I dont think they count from 01.01 though. In that case I have said 'adios' to too many beautiful girls in Cuba :-)

I know it's illegal. If no payment is involved, it is still illegal. My main question is probably whether it is enforced when the girl is a few days or weeks short of 18.

But I'm probably not going to get a solid answer with info I don't allready know myself unless someone from the Cuban justice ministry drops by...There is a general misconception among Westerners visiting Cuba that the Age of consent in that country is 18. It is actually 17 and NOT 18.

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Greetings Maxima Man,

The age of consent is irrelevant.

What you need to know is what is the [u]Age of Majority[/y], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

Please exercise caution.

Thanks,

Jackson

El Cubanito
09-13-08, 17:55
There is a general misconception among Westerners visiting Cuba that the Age of consent in that country is 18. It is actually 17 and NOT 18.

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Greetings Maxima Man,

The age of consent is irrelevant.

What you need to know is what is the [u]Age of Majority[/y], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

Please exercise caution.

Thanks,

Jackson

Guys,

I know this for a fact. The age of consent in Cuba for a local to have sex with a foreigner is 18. The age of consent for a local to have sex with a local cuban is 17. i know that it is discrimantory, but all you have to know about this is about a poor American who was in Holguin and had a sex with a 17 year old girl and then the girls family blackmailed him. They ask him that if he did not sponsor her out of Cuba then they were going to the authorities. Well take a quess as to what happen. The poor slob ended up in Jail because he did not conset to have her sponsor out of the Island. He serve 2 years or close to 2 years in a Cuban jail. Believe me when I say this because I help the family get a lawyer and everything to help this stupid guy. This happen back in around the end of 2002 or beggining of 2003. If was him I would had yes to consent and gotten out od Dodge City, but he wanted to prove a point.

There you go you have the info that you need as far as the age of consent.

Kalifornication
09-13-08, 20:09
I have been seeing a chica from Santa Clara who attends one of Cuba's best schools. I met her family and they are very pleasant. I have been back to Cuba several times to see her in the past year. I say all of this because I believe she is not a pro and I assume she is not a semi-pro, ... as she appears to be a regular girl who attends shchool in Havana and then returns home often. In fact, each time I have called her at her home this summer, when she is not there, her father tells me where she is and then provides me the telephone number where I can reach her (generally her grandmother's home or aunt's home).

She has never asked me for a dime, but I was thinking of sending her some money, say $100. My questions is this: how far will this get an average Cuban? If this were sent once a month, is this helpful to them?

Thank's for your input.

PincheCabron
09-13-08, 21:04
If she converts this money to the national currency it will go a long way barring shortages due to Ike. If she buys something with CUCs then not so much although it will help with school items. They will probably just put that $100 away until they have enough to buy a luxury item like a new fridge or tv. Probably alcohol and cigarrettes as well. Personally I would just ask her what if any her family needs and buy it while you're there.



I have been seeing a chica from Santa Clara who attends one of Cuba's best schools. I met her family and they are very pleasant. I have been back to Cuba several times to see her in the past year. I say all of this because I believe she is not a pro and I assume she is not a semi-pro, ... as she appears to be a regular girl who attends shchool in Havana and then returns home often. In fact, each time I have called her at her home this summer, when she is not there, her father tells me where she is and then provides me the telephone number where I can reach her (generally her grandmother's home or aunt's home).

She has never asked me for a dime, but I was thinking of sending her some money, say $100. My questions is this: how far will this get an average Cuban? If this were sent once a month, is this helpful to them?

Thank's for your input.

BeersTerry
09-14-08, 16:11
Ya, if you want to be a hero. Save it all and take a look next time to see if they need a fridge. Then you can blow the $800 - $1000 on a fridge or something. Having been out that way a few times, a new fridge would be something to get excited about.

Kalifornication
09-14-08, 22:08
Ya, if you want to be a hero. Save it all and take a look next time to see if they need a fridge. Then you can blow the $800 - $1000 on a fridge or something. Having been out that way a few times, a new fridge would be something to get excited about.


Beersterry, "you a funny guy." :) They have a descent fridge. Next time, why not just asnwer the question? Your reading skills are not on ppr with your senior member status.

I say this jest.

El Rey De Pollo
09-14-08, 22:33
Well, I am among those who believe that you can find girls in Cuba who are actually interested in you for other reasons than money. I have met three girls through the years, who would refuse any kind of money. More so than any girl in a civilized, rich country like USA, Canada, Germany, Holland, whatever - would. It is off course because in a nation of golddiggers, any girl wanting to state a clear point as to her non-jinetera status, will need to say no to anything. I find it quite amazing when I meet these girls. They have absolutely nothing and refuses to accept a small bill from me to buy some groceries for themselves or the family. The three I mention would even refuse a beer or a can of soda and only accept when I asked if they were not thirsty to which they would reply something like 'si, pero...' - then I forced them to drink.

Anyway, these girls are probably almost as easy to ruin as the jineteras who have gotten used to having money. I would take it easy and not get her accustomed to large sums of money. For two reasons:

1. The money will change her lifestyle. When and if someday you meet another Cubana and let the girl go, she will be the next jinetera on 23 y L because now she really needs cash.

2. You clearly run the risk of altering the relationship to be one where she is dependant on you for cash. If this girl is real, I am sure you would prefere if she depended more on other things - like (violins fade in) love...

But 100$ probably won't ruin here. The way you describe things, it is pretty clear to me that you are aware of the huge numbers of cubanas that will go out of their way to deceive you into thinking you are the only one (while keeping 2-3 sponsors spread around the world, each one sending her 100$ a month). The fact that her father will vouch for her and always give you the number to where she is, does not convince me though. Whole families - including the girls boyfriends - could be in on it, it would not be the first.

That said, if you trust this girl and if you are sure she is the real thing, I think that 100$ would be a nice, balanced amount to send her on a monthly basis. This would give her space to by herself a nice gift once in a while without letting her change her lifestyle.

Just my two centavos.


I have been seeing a chica from Santa Clara who attends one of Cuba's best schools. I met her family and they are very pleasant. I have been back to Cuba several times to see her in the past year. I say all of this because I believe she is not a pro and I assume she is not a semi-pro, ... as she appears to be a regular girl who attends shchool in Havana and then returns home often. In fact, each time I have called her at her home this summer, when she is not there, her father tells me where she is and then provides me the telephone number where I can reach her (generally her grandmother's home or aunt's home).

She has never asked me for a dime, but I was thinking of sending her some money, say $100. My questions is this: how far will this get an average Cuban? If this were sent once a month, is this helpful to them?

Thank's for your input.

Kalifornication
09-14-08, 22:47
Well, I am among those who believe that you can find girls in Cuba who are actually interested in you for other reasons than money. I have met three girls through the years, who would refuse any kind of money. More so than any girl in a civilized, rich country like USA, Canada, Germany, Holland, whatever - would. It is off course because in a nation of golddiggers, any girl wanting to state a clear point as to her non-jinetera status, will need to say no to anything. I find it quite amazing when I meet these girls. They have absolutely nothing and refuses to accept a small bill from me to buy some groceries for themselves or the family. The three I mention would even refuse a beer or a can of soda and only accept when I asked if they were not thirsty to which they would reply something like 'si, pero...' - then I forced them to drink.

Anyway, these girls are probably almost as easy to ruin as the jineteras who have gotten used to having money. I would take it easy and not get her accustomed to large sums of money. For two reasons:

1. The money will change her lifestyle. When and if someday you meet another Cubana and let the girl go, she will be the next jinetera on 23 y L because now she really needs cash.

2. You clearly run the risk of altering the relationship to be one where she is dependant on you for cash. If this girl is real, I am sure you would prefere if she depended more on other things - like (violins fade in) love...

But 100$ probably won't ruin here. The way you describe things, it is pretty clear to me that you are aware of the huge numbers of cubanas that will go out of their way to deceive you into thinking you are the only one (while keeping 2-3 sponsors spread around the world, each one sending her 100$ a month). The fact that her father will vouch for her and always give you the number to where she is, does not convince me though. Whole families - including the girls boyfriends - could be in on it, it would not be the first.

That said, if you trust this girl and if you are sure she is the real thing, I think that 100$ would be a nice, balanced amount to send her on a monthly basis. This would give her space to by herself a nice gift once in a while without letting her change her lifestyle.

Just my two centavos.


TG,

Now that was a true reply to the question asked.

I trust her, but trust will only get one so far. I am very much aware of the fact that scams are run.

In fact, I am not so out-of-touch to think that she may not have a local novio. She claims she does not, but you never know. To be honest, if she did, I would not be let down by the fact. I am 39 and she is 25 (so there is an age difference), ... she is faily attractive, so to think that she is solo would be silly. And, if she is not, the better 4 me.

What works for me is to see her when I am in Cuba. I prefer to hook up with one girl that I know rather than several throughout the trip.

I'll be heading down again late October. Can't wait.

Member #4167
09-16-08, 13:37
Any reports from hurricane areas ?

I just read of the disaster down there. I hadnt realized it was so bad.

I hope that the cubans are getting their lives back to normal. I hate to see them suffer.

Has anybody been to Pinar Del Rio or MAnzanillo recently?

El Cubanito
09-16-08, 22:33
I was in Cuba from 08/29 to 09/08 (or just before the hurricane hit). I was in Cienfuegos for a Couple of days and I was looking for you. Do you stay at Punta Gorda in Ceinfuegos? The talent in the smaller town around Cienfuego is better.

El Rey De Pollo
09-16-08, 22:50
While media has focused on Ike in Texas, it has hit Cuba BAD! My friends in Cuba tells me pretty horrible stories. 200,000 houses destroyed or badly damaged nationwide. Still no electricity in most of PDR and much of Holguín and Guantanamo provinces. Water in the whole country polluted.

The agricultural areas around Camaguey and Las Tunas were severely damaged. Cuban media reports 90% of havana and sugar harvest gone. Almost the same for mangos, plantains, piñas etc. In short, you can probably forget about that freshly squeezed juice in the morning for a long, long time.

Also, 16 historical buildings in Habana Vieja gone. Many are so damaged that they expect that more will crumble because they are getting soar from the current humidity.

Many, many resorts are gone too. Travel companies are not flying anybody to Holguín right now (but I have heard they don't tell!), but are flying all the AI tourists into Varadero (where things are not crazy bad although I hear ocean water is fucked up)

A friend of mine, who is fairly high up in the system with a brother who is in government, tells me they estimate that they have been set back economically 2-3 years and that the country will not be back to normal for at least 6-8 months.

Makes me feel terrible. Was planning on going for two months in October/November, but am seriously thinking of postponing until next year sometime.

Think about it: HUGE story on how they evacuated 1 million people on the US coast prior to IKE. That's out of 300 million people. In Cuba they evacuated 3 million people out of 14 million.


Any reports from hurricane areas ?

I just read of the disaster down there. I hadnt realized it was so bad.

I hope that the cubans are getting their lives back to normal. I hate to see them suffer.

Has anybody been to Pinar Del Rio or MAnzanillo recently?

PincheCabron
09-17-08, 03:27
I'm planning on going October as well and will probably take viazul from havana to santiago. Should be interesting or depressing or both. Will this be even doable by october? Santiago seems to be one of the luckier ones to escape both the wrath of gustav and ike. At least in terms of physical destruction. I still remember the hurricane that hit the yucatan a few years ago and it was an eye opener. I imagine the destruction in cuba will make that seem a near miss by comparison.



While media has focused on Ike in Texas, it has hit Cuba BAD! My friends in Cuba tells me pretty horrible stories. 200,000 houses destroyed or badly damaged nationwide. Still no electricity in most of PDR and much of Holguín and Guantanamo provinces. Water in the whole country polluted.

The agricultural areas around Camaguey and Las Tunas were severely damaged. Cuban media reports 90% of havana and sugar harvest gone. Almost the same for mangos, plantains, piñas etc. In short, you can probably forget about that freshly squeezed juice in the morning for a long, long time.

Also, 16 historical buildings in Habana Vieja gone. Many are so damaged that they expect that more will crumble because they are getting soar from the current humidity.

Many, many resorts are gone too. Travel companies are not flying anybody to Holguín right now (but I have heard they don't tell!), but are flying all the AI tourists into Varadero (where things are not crazy bad although I hear ocean water is fucked up)

A friend of mine, who is fairly high up in the system with a brother who is in government, tells me they estimate that they have been set back economically 2-3 years and that the country will not be back to normal for at least 6-8 months.

Makes me feel terrible. Was planning on going for two months in October/November, but am seriously thinking of postponing until next year sometime.

Think about it: HUGE story on how they evacuated 1 million people on the US coast prior to IKE. That's out of 300 million people. In Cuba they evacuated 3 million people out of 14 million.

El Rey De Pollo
09-17-08, 14:25
From what I've heard, Viazuls are running on fairly regular schedule and the carretera to Santiago should be okay now. It was flooded and unusable for many days.

Let us know of your exploits. I suspect this hurricane has really gotten the Cubans down, which is one of the reasons why I am postponing. I have been in Cuba before at times of depression and lack of optimism and it's no fun.


I'm planning on going October as well and will probably take viazul from havana to santiago. Should be interesting or depressing or both. Will this be even doable by october? Santiago seems to be one of the luckier ones to escape both the wrath of gustav and ike. At least in terms of physical destruction. I still remember the hurricane that hit the yucatan a few years ago and it was an eye opener. I imagine the destruction in cuba will make that seem a near miss by comparison.

BeersTerry
09-17-08, 14:39
Go to Cuba.......you are the fun!
Havana did not get hit that bad.

Member #4167
09-17-08, 16:00
I was in Cuba from 08/29 to 09/08 (or just before the hurricane hit). I was in Cienfuegos for a Couple of days and I was looking for you. Do you stay at Punta Gorda in Ceinfuegos? The talent in the smaller town around Cienfuego is better.I didn't go in last few months. I have been to Punta Gorda, it is the most beautiful spot of Cienfuegos. Anyone who goes there to Cfgos, needs to stay in PG. It is convenient and not far from the cruising action of the bridge and the niteclubs. I was really disappointed with the mongering scene in cfgos. The worst in all of Cuba. Way too much police scrutiny and chica paranoia. Only thing available there in cfgos are pros and they are pretty expensive 40. 60 CUC. They are probably having to pay a stiff multa to the lagras. Price seems high, I can get a putica for the same price in the developed world. I am not interested in the hardcore pros, I like the "jinitera experience"

Cubanito. Please post of your adventures. Us armchair mongers want to live through you vicariously.

El Cubanito
09-18-08, 15:19
I didn't go in last few months. I have been to Punta Gorda, it is the most beautiful spot of Cienfuegos. Anyone who goes there to Cfgos, needs to stay in PG. It is convenient and not far from the cruising action of the bridge and the niteclubs. I was really disappointed with the mongering scene in cfgos. The worst in all of Cuba. Way too much police scrutiny and chica paranoia. Only thing available there in cfgos are pros and they are pretty expensive 40. 60 CUC. They are probably having to pay a stiff multa to the lagras. Price seems high, I can get a putica for the same price in the developed world. I am not interested in the hardcore pros, I like the "jinitera experience"

Cubanito. Please post of your adventures. Us armchair mongers want to live through you vicariously.

On this trip I only stay with one chica. She is somebody that I know for a long time, now. Consetquently, I will NOT post pics of her. She and I have an understanding about our relationship. I know that she has somebody down there and I am ok with that. In matter of fact, I more than ok with it. I am only there for 2 or 3 weeks at most every 3 to 4 months. That is not a real relationship, but we do lust one another so we keep this going for as long as it works for both of us. I do help her finacially. I Sent her 150 CUC every month, which is not alot for us. But for them they can do alot with that money. I did have a great time with her on this trip and we enjoy one another company tremendously. I was with her when I was in Cienfuegos. I thought you might be down in Cienfuegos. I though you had mention that you would be down there.

Guys, (Travelling Gring, Darenesq, Pinche Cabron, Beersterry and the master, Cubiche) we should all plan a trip together and do some serius mongering. I know of the perfect Casa in Santa Fe that would accomodate all of us, with swimming pool and everything.

BeersTerry
09-18-08, 17:47
O.K...I'm in but I am down there in a few days and would need to hide from my Cuban friends, who would not understand this looking for putas thing.

The girls in Colombia will be disappointed as I would have to bump one of those trips.

Kalifornication
09-18-08, 21:51
On this trip I only stay with one chica. She is somebody that I know for a long time, now. Consetquently, I will NOT post pics of her. She and I have an understanding about our relationship. I know that she has somebody down there and I am ok with that. In matter of fact, I more than ok with it. I am only there for 2 or 3 weeks at most every 3 to 4 months. That is not a real relationship, but we do lust one another so we keep this going for as long as it works for both of us. I do help her finacially. I Sent her 150 CUC every month, which is not alot for us. But for them they can do alot with that money. I did have a great time with her on this trip and we enjoy one another company tremendously. I was with her when I was in Cienfuegos. I thought you might be down in Cienfuegos. I though you had mention that you would be down there.

Guys, (Travelling Gring, Darenesq, Pinche Cabron, Beersterry and the master, Cubiche) we should all plan a trip together and do some serius mongering. I know of the perfect Casa in Santa Fe that would accomodate all of us, with swimming pool and everything.

Ummmm, yea .... when do we depart? I will be in Cuba Mid-late November 2008.

Kalifornication
09-18-08, 21:54
Ummmm, yea .... when do we depart? I will be in Cuba Mid-late November 2008.

Yes, tha's late November. I do realize my prior note of a few days ago indicates late October, .... I must have been drunk that evening :)

Golds
09-18-08, 21:59
How stupid can you be? 150 CUC I give her every month? Don't be a fool, I send mine every month 30 CUC and she is very happy with that. Why? Because they have NOTHING. And every time when I am there I pay her 30 CUC for every fuck. That is the negotiation. They need FIRST to deliver before they gain. Let them work first for their money and don't throw it away for NOTHING every month. This is the golden rule in Cuba, you are the boss, don't forgit it.

PincheCabron
09-19-08, 02:12
Cubanito when are you going again? Sounds like cienfuegos is your home base. I split my time between havana and santiago usually.



On this trip I only stay with one chica. She is somebody that I know for a long time, now. Consetquently, I will NOT post pics of her. She and I have an understanding about our relationship. I know that she has somebody down there and I am ok with that. In matter of fact, I more than ok with it. I am only there for 2 or 3 weeks at most every 3 to 4 months. That is not a real relationship, but we do lust one another so we keep this going for as long as it works for both of us. I do help her finacially. I Sent her 150 CUC every month, which is not alot for us. But for them they can do alot with that money. I did have a great time with her on this trip and we enjoy one another company tremendously. I was with her when I was in Cienfuegos. I thought you might be down in Cienfuegos. I though you had mention that you would be down there.

Guys, (Travelling Gring, Darenesq, Pinche Cabron, Beersterry and the master, Cubiche) we should all plan a trip together and do some serius mongering. I know of the perfect Casa in Santa Fe that would accomodate all of us, with swimming pool and everything.

El Cubanito
09-19-08, 05:19
Cubanito when are you going again? Sounds like cienfuegos is your home base. I split my time between havana and santiago usually.


Actually, santiago is really my stomping grounds. My Dick has met more Bollo from santiago than all of the other providence put together. My Cienfuegos stop with my "Novia" was because she likes it there and I did not care where I went with her. All I care about for that Big Willie got taken care of.

While, we are on the convesation of Bollos. Which bollos in Cuba do you have a preference for? Santigueras, Holguinieras, Havaneras or Pinar Del rios. In my books the bollos from Pinar de Rios got to be the deadest chick I have ever met. I once met this gorgeous 18 year old by Santa Fe on 5th avenue. She was a total knock out, but her Bollos was very boring.

So which you do u gents prefer?

My Taste is Santiago. With havana a close second.

El Cubanito
09-19-08, 05:22
How stupid can you be? 150 CUC I give her every month? Don't be a fool, I send mine every month 30 CUC and she is very happy with that. Why? Because they have NOTHING. And every time when I am there I pay her 30 CUC for every fuck. That is the negotiation. They need FIRST to deliver before they gain. Let them work first for their money and don't throw it away for NOTHING every month. This is the golden rule in Cuba, you are the boss, don't forgit it.


Are you happy given your girl 30 CUC? Than I happy for you that you feel that this all she is worth. I feel that my chica is worth 150 CUC every month, plus it makes me happy.

My point is pay what make you happy. $150 CUC make me very happy because I get all of the Bollo that I want when I go to Cuba and I do not have to give one dime more.

Golds
09-19-08, 06:45
Ok, I understand, I only had send this message as a WAKE-UP call for many who are going to Cuba. The language I used is rude but some are really dreaming there as they were on a fantasy Island.

Don't believe they fuck only you and their "novio" if you send them this kind of money. Why? They want always more.

I met one from Santa Clara, educated, university, english speaking. She told last month she went to Italy to visit una amiga cubana en Italia (read Italian sucker). He paid her first class ticket, drove a month with her through Italy, bought dresses and shoes from Dolce & Gabana, Gucci (original I saw them), stayed in exclusive hotels. To end the story, she came to Havana to meet me, sucked and fucked me for 3 days, and I paid her in total 100 CUC, and few restaurants visits. Her necessities? Nada, nothing, zero.

El Cubanito
09-20-08, 01:42
Ok, I understand, I only had send this message as a WAKE-UP call for many who are going to Cuba. The language I used is rude but some are really dreaming there as they were on a fantasy Island.

Don't believe they fuck only you and their "novio" if you send them this kind of money. Why? They want always more.

I met one from Santa Clara, educated, university, english speaking. She told last month she went to Italy to visit una amiga cubana en Italia (read Italian sucker). He paid her first class ticket, drove a month with her through Italy, bought dresses and shoes from Dolce & Gabana, Gucci (original I saw them), stayed in exclusive hotels. To end the story, she came to Havana to meet me, sucked and fucked me for 3 days, and I paid her in total 100 CUC, and few restaurants visits. Her necessities? Nada, nothing, zero.

If we do this group thing to go and monger in Cuba. Are u game? Then you will see how I roll.

Look, that girl that I give the $150 CUC a month I have no illusion that I am the only one. I know for a fact that she has another guy. But, whenever I want that bollo I take preference over anything and everything. That gets me off. Plus, she is a great person and we do have great conversations about everything and anything. We enjoy one another company.

I do understand what your message is saying I do see alot of guys who are 65 and they are with a 21 year old chica buying fridge, TV, putting Cable in their homes and I say do you know what you are doing?

This Last trip when I arrive my car from rex was not ready yet and I got one of the cabbies that i know to give me a ride to my "Novia" house. The cabbie goes pay me now, because I have a sucker who I am charging more than I charge you. My Novia lives about 5 minutes from the Airport and this guys was going about 3 houses down from my novia house. The Cabbie friend charge me $10 CUC. He charge this dude $30 CUC. Then when the poor slob got to the neighborhood everybody was in a state of panic. The girl Cuban Novio was inside the house. The whole neighborhood was in uproar because the Italiano came unannounce. Everybody was in shock when he walked straight to his "Novia" House. She introduce her Cuban Novio to the Italina as her cousin Odenny from Santa Clara who was visiting. The guy invited m einto the house and the house had everything. I mean everything, TV, Stove, Micro wave, Top of the line Fridge, Cable, the works. I felt so bad for this guy. But looks who he has in there a 22 year old girl. They have been together now for 2.5 years. The kid she has is supposely his. The kid is 6 months old. Make you want think who kids is he? Felt bad for the guy but he did not do his homework on thsi girl.

Guys, having a girl in Cuba does not mean that they all like this, but you better find out what is going on behind your back if you are going to have one. Or do like my buddy did, stay a year in Cuba living with her.

Kalifornication
09-20-08, 13:53
If we do this group thing to go and monger in Cuba. Are u game? Then you will see how I roll.

Look, that girl that I give the $150 CUC a month I have no illusion that I am the only one. I know for a fact that she has another guy. But, whenever I want that bollo I take preference over anything and everything. That gets me off. Plus, she is a great person and we do have great conversations about everything and anything. We enjoy one another company.

I do understand what your message is saying I do see alot of guys who are 65 and they are with a 21 year old chica buying fridge, TV, putting Cable in their homes and I say do you know what you are doing?

This Last trip when I arrive my car from rex was not ready yet and I got one of the cabbies that i know to give me a ride to my "Novia" house. The cabbie goes pay me now, because I have a sucker who I am charging more than I charge you. My Novia lives about 5 minutes from the Airport and this guys was going about 3 houses down from my novia house. The Cabbie friend charge me $10 CUC. He charge this dude $30 CUC. Then when the poor slob got to the neighborhood everybody was in a state of panic. The girl Cuban Novio was inside the house. The whole neighborhood was in uproar because the Italiano came unannounce. Everybody was in shock when he walked straight to his "Novia" House. She introduce her Cuban Novio to the Italina as her cousin Odenny from Santa Clara who was visiting. The guy invited m einto the house and the house had everything. I mean everything, TV, Stove, Micro wave, Top of the line Fridge, Cable, the works. I felt so bad for this guy. But looks who he has in there a 22 year old girl. They have been together now for 2.5 years. The kid she has is supposely his. The kid is 6 months old. Make you want think who kids is he? Felt bad for the guy but he did not do his homework on thsi girl.

Guys, having a girl in Cuba does not mean that they all like this, but you better find out what is going on behind your back if you are going to have one. Or do like my buddy did, stay a year in Cuba living with her.

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I see you guys like to err on the side of caution, that is good. But, I find it hard to believe that there is not just one, ... yea I said it, not one descent girl on the whole island that is not out to get "ya" CUCs.

I am tempted to agree with the critique, ... "don't trust not one of them", pay your $30 or $150 and treat them like the jockeys they are. But that means that would mean that I fully accept the premise above. I cannot.

Let's remember too where we are, and I am not referring to La Isla. We are at La Pias de la www.internationalsexguide, and our world view, no doubt, has been impacted by our trials and tribulations. I am not surprised that we take such views re las cubanas.

I am not suggesting that 9 times out of 10 they are not out to get ya. Maybe this is true, ... maybe not. But I cannot paint this beautiful country with such a broad brush as to define the whole population of women.

If my girl is not the ONE, I'll be damned! SMILE :)

PincheCabron
09-20-08, 15:58
Now who did she suck to get permission to leave cuba on a vacation? Raul. Even if she had a passport this type of travel isn't permitted yet on the island although it could be soon.


Ok, I understand, I only had send this message as a WAKE-UP call for many who are going to Cuba. The language I used is rude but some are really dreaming there as they were on a fantasy Island.

Don't believe they fuck only you and their "novio" if you send them this kind of money. Why? They want always more.

I met one from Santa Clara, educated, university, english speaking. She told last month she went to Italy to visit una amiga cubana en Italia (read Italian sucker). He paid her first class ticket, drove a month with her through Italy, bought dresses and shoes from Dolce & Gabana, Gucci (original I saw them), stayed in exclusive hotels. To end the story, she came to Havana to meet me, sucked and fucked me for 3 days, and I paid her in total 100 CUC, and few restaurants visits. Her necessities? Nada, nothing, zero.

El Rey De Pollo
09-21-08, 11:25
These girls are there. But they are few and scarce and are becomming more and more of a commodity. I have myself met a small handfull of girls who I am 100% sure (and I am no sucker) that they did not have a Cuban novio or a foreign sponsor. But that is a small handfull out of what...50, 80, 100 girls?

Off course there are girls in Cuba who are sincere and are only interested in love over money, but clearly, in a country where the average cubanas only way to get a little money is to be with tourists, the temptation of being with more than one guy is overwhelming - I know that I for one (if I was a hot looking Cuban girl) would not be able to resist the temptation. And how do I know? Because even though I have been fortunate enough to meet at least 4 beautiful cubanas who only wanted me and not even for my money - I still fucked another girl an hour after she left my casa.

Cubanito, I'll be glad to swing by Santa Fe to see how you work things - But being from Europe my chances are not unlimited. These days I only get to go to Cuba about two times a year - but luckily for periods of 1-2 months at a time. But I'm down if I am down there.


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I see you guys like to err on the side of caution, that is good. But, I find it hard to believe that there is not just one, ... yea I said it, not one descent girl on the whole island that is not out to get "ya" CUCs.

I am tempted to agree with the critique, ... "don't trust not one of them", pay your $30 or $150 and treat them like the jockeys they are. But that means that would mean that I fully accept the premise above. I cannot.

Let's remember too where we are, and I am not referring to La Isla. We are at La Pias de la www.internationalsexguide, and our world view, no doubt, has been impacted by our trials and tribulations. I am not surprised that we take such views re las cubanas.

I am not suggesting that 9 times out of 10 they are not out to get ya. Maybe this is true, ... maybe not. But I cannot paint this beautiful country with such a broad brush as to define the whole population of women.

If my girl is not the ONE, I'll be damned! SMILE :)

SanJoseFan
09-21-08, 15:13
Go to Cuba.......you are the fun!

Havana did not get hit that bad.Beersterry thanks for the info on Havana itself. I have a week of vacation time Oct 20-27 and was thinking of heading to Cuba. Most times I stay in the Playa Del Este east of Havana at either the Tropicoco or Club Atlantico. The site I use to book currently has them listed with very cheap prices for the week (well under $700. 00CAD including flight and AI)

Does anyone have any update on the damage (or hopefully lack there of) in Playa Del Este or Guanabo?

Kalifornication
09-21-08, 15:25
You say,

"in a country where the average cubanas only way to get a little money is to be with tourists, the temptation of being with more than one guy is overwhelming - I know that I for one (if I was a hot looking Cuban girl) would not be able to resist the temptation. And how do I know? Because even though I have been fortunate enough to meet at least 4 beautiful cubanas who only wanted me and not even for my money - I still fucked another girl an hour after she left my casa."

I am not yet convinced. If I were, I'd have to apply the reasoning elsewhere, and I'd have to see the same results.

I do not know about the rest of you, but in terms of poverty -although Cuba is indeed poor (and likely more poor post Gustav and Ike)- its poverty in no way is comparable to other contries like -for example- Haiti, DR, Mexico, Ecuador, I could go on. In these countries (and I have been) I did not experience every girl selling her goods to tourists. Not even close to 50%. Just did not happen. And, in many cases their crcumstances were far worse than the average Cuban as there were no mechanisms in place to provide for basic [CUBAN] fundamental rights (i.e., education, food, shelter, healthcare).

As for your "knowing", I suspect you are referring to your own weakness (desire) and strength (money) in a land of "poverty"?

Go to Vegas, (USA NEVADA), I think it is worse there, ... no I am certain. They even hand out flyers in the street with photos of women in various compromising positions offering to be in your room within moments. I suppose although all tourist destinations are similar, I would not paint the whole USA as a nation of *****s, ... wait, ... maybe I would. :)

I say all this with due respect. Just my 5 cents.

Member #4167
09-21-08, 17:27
I do not know about the rest of you, but in terms of poverty -although Cuba is indeed poor (and likely more poor post Gustav and Ike)- its poverty in no way is comparable to other contries like -for example- Haiti, DR, Mexico, Ecuador, I could go on. In these countries (and I have been) I did not experience every girl selling her goods to tourists. Not even close to 50%. Just did not happen. And, in many cases their crcumstances were far worse than the average Cuban as there were no mechanisms in place to provide for basic [CUBAN] fundamental rights (i.e., education, food, shelter, healthcare).Hey Darenesq,

I have been to Ecuador and Cuba. In terms of hooking up with non-pros/semi-pros, where did you find the non-pro girls more willing / more available?

Just comparing notes.

Kalifornication
09-21-08, 20:28
Hey Darenesq,

I have been to Ecuador and Cuba. In terms of hooking up with non-pros/semi-pros, where did you find the non-pro girls more willing / more available?

Just comparing notes.

Can't really say, I've never had difficulty with the non-pro girls in either Cuba or Ecuador or the USA. As for the pros, if one has difficulty with them, then there are some real issues.

However, the cultures of Cuba and Ecuador are markedly different, especially in comparrison to Quito. I find the Ecuadorians to be a bit more conservative in their social dealings, hence, they may appear to be less receptive.

You are going to have to define "willing" for me. Willing to what? Fall in love? Fuck for money? Make you think they love ya, whilst taking your CUC?Shit, I do not even know if the American girls are "willing" or just after my CUC.

Lerxsttt
09-21-08, 21:59
So which you do u gents prefer?

My Taste is Santiago. With havana a close second.Having only ever visited Holguin and Camaguey (at least 5 times each) I have no interest in going elsewhere. I can get what I need in either of these places.

If I had to rank them it would be:

1) Camaguey

2) Holguin

Methos
09-22-08, 04:19
I was in Santiago during Ike. As others have said, the city didn't suffer a lot of damage compared to the rest of the country. The electricity was only out for a couple of hours in my casa. I heard it was out for about 30 hours in other parts of the city.

I had to take Viazul to Havana since my original flight from eastern Cuba was canceled. I took the overnight express bus on the weekend of the 12th. Since it was night I didn't see a lot of the damage. The bus met it's schedule, but as anyone who's rode a few Viazul busses knows, the schedule leaves a lot of room.

I got to Havana about 5 hours before my flight so I took a taxi to old Havana and walked around for a few hours. Since I've been back home I've read about damage in old Havana but I didn't see any. It looked about the same as the last time I was there a few years ago.

Member #4167
09-22-08, 14:27
Can't really say, I've never had difficulty with the non-pro girls in either Cuba or Ecuador or the USA. As for the pros, if one has difficulty with them, then there are some real issues.

However, the cultures of Cuba and Ecuador are markedly different, especially in comparrison to Quito. I find the Ecuadorians to be a bit more conservative in their social dealings, hence, they may appear to be less receptive.

You are going to have to define "willing" for me. Willing to what? Fall in love? Fuck for money? Make you think they love ya, whilst taking your CUC?Shit, I do not even know if the American girls are "willing" or just after my CUC.When I said "willing" - I meant "friendly & willing to go out with a extranjero and willing to fvck." I know that pros everywhere are willing to fvck for $. I was referring to the non-professional, that would perhaps be willing to fvck and would be treated to drinks, dinner, gifts.

I agree with you that Ecuadorians are far more conservative in their social dealings.

Member #4167
09-22-08, 14:36
I am reposting this here at the request of Jackson


Originally Posted by Travelling GringIn my opinion, including both Havana, Varadero and Santiago in a first time trip lasting two weeks, would be pushing it. Cuba is not a small country and Havana and Santiago are worlds apart. I would concentrate on a smaller portion, like Havana, Varadero and then a few days off to Trinidad, Cienfuegos or Viñales. Basically concentrating on the Western part of the island and then saving the Eastern part and Santiago for a your next trip. I agree with TG. It will take you a full day of travelling time to get to Santiago and a day to get back. That really cuts into your tourism/mongering time. I am not sure if flying saves you any time anyway. You have your transport to and from the airport, and inevitable delays. Cubana is not known for their punctuality. If you do go to Santiago, take the bus rather than flying. That way you get to see the countryside, the REAL Cuba. IF you want to meet real cubans, take the bus that the cubans take. Warning: their is no AC. So this suggestion is a better option for the winter time.

If you spend only 1-2 days in each city. You will find it difficult to get laid. This depends on the city and the current enforcement regime. In Cuba, it takes 1-2 days minimum to find a reasonably attractive girl. It depends on your standards. I guess you could get la1d immediately if you were willing to sleep with a nasty older provider and pay 40-60 CUC. The acquisition of a girlfriend is not instantaneous. Rather than find a different girl every day, you will most likely find one girl who will monopolize most of your time in that city.

Havana. Veradero. Cienfuegos. Trinidad is a nice trip.

Far west you have vinales, maria la gorda. I think of this as another trip.

Santiago. Baracoa. Holguin. Camaguey is another trip.

Yes, this is a nice fantasy. Have a girl who will travel with you as your tour guide and steady sex companion. I entertained this fantasy a well. I wasted alot of time searching for a girl who could travel with me. I did find a one, but it was not worth the effort trying to negotiate her work/school schedule. It doesn't matter if YOU SPEAK SPANISH, or you are particularly charming or handsome. Cubanas arent sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for for you to take them on a trip. They go to school, have jobs or have children to care for. Some of them even have boyfreinds or husbands to service. They arent going to abandon all of this after having just met you, just because YOU might be the one. This is funny, because I have offered to pay the girls salary 2-10 times over for her to travel with me. Most say no. Short term gain is not worth the long term pain. Less than 5% of the girls are free to go tripping with you.

Besides, when you have a travelling companion, You have moral responsibilty to ensure that she is returned to her home. You have her for the duration of your expedition (unless of course you put her on a bus and ship her home).

Bottom line: Don't waste alot of time trying to find one. Just go about your travels. If you find one willing to go tripping with you, great. Enjoy it. Aprobeche! If not, you are sure to find a different girl.

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El Chico
09-22-08, 18:45
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I am tempted to agree with the critique, ... "don't trust not one of them", pay your $30 or $150 and treat them like the jockeys they are. But that means that would mean that I fully accept the premise above. I cannot.I believe it would be extremely rare for a foreigner to meet a girl in Cuba, send her money regularly, and be the only one. If it is a girl that you originally met as a jinetera, forget about it. Even if somehow you met a "regular" girl (and of course there are many), its not Cuban culture to be faithful. Regular Cubans fool around on each other constantly, so how can you believe she wouldn't if your not even living in the country, especially if she's young and attractive? I've had a girl call me literally as soon as she got home from seeing her Italian boyfriend off at the airport.

One quick story.....my friend's neighbor was a girl that had a foreign boyfriend that paid to buy her house (Cuban's can do this by paying off the appropriate officials, lawyers etc. to make it a legal trade). One day her boyfriend came visiting unannounced and found she was actually living with another guy. He was so pissed, he went to the cops and told them that he was the one that paid for the apartment and the whole thing was illegal. Shortly thereafter she was kicked out by the State.

El Cubanito
09-22-08, 20:55
These girls are there. But they are few and scarce and are becomming more and more of a commodity. I have myself met a small handfull of girls who I am 100% sure (and I am no sucker) that they did not have a Cuban novio or a foreign sponsor. But that is a small handfull out of what...50, 80, 100 girls?

Off course there are girls in Cuba who are sincere and are only interested in love over money, but clearly, in a country where the average cubanas only way to get a little money is to be with tourists, the temptation of being with more than one guy is overwhelming - I know that I for one (if I was a hot looking Cuban girl) would not be able to resist the temptation. And how do I know? Because even though I have been fortunate enough to meet at least 4 beautiful cubanas who only wanted me and not even for my money - I still fucked another girl an hour after she left my casa.

Cubanito, I'll be glad to swing by Santa Fe to see how you work things - But being from Europe my chances are not unlimited. These days I only get to go to Cuba about two times a year - but luckily for periods of 1-2 months at a time. But I'm down if I am down there.

I really would like for us to get together and have a good time in Cuba.


Travelling Gring you are correct with assessing the girl situation in cuba.

A buddy of mine who has another Cuban Site he has written this essay about the situation between Cubans and foreigners.

Here it is:

For many of us days drag on throughout the year, committed to work and responsibilities, until the moment arrives when we are allowed an escape. We dream of this getaway, counting the days until we find ourselves on a journey to a foreign land. A plane transports us to a place where the sights, the sounds, the smells, the people, and the air are very different than what we are accustomed to. The experience of setting our feet on a distant land invigorates us; we achieve a feeling of great comfort, exhilarated to be far from home, and far from the dreadfully endless routines of our daily lives. It is a vacation; and we attempt to make every minute of the vacation count, knowing that it won’t last long enough.

For most singles—and some who are married, but we will for now avoid that matter—regardless of whether the foreign land is a ritzy Europe or an impoverished Central America, what always completes the perfect vacation—the icing on the cake, the piece de resistance—is that romantic encounter with (for the ladies) one’s Prince Charming, or (for the men) one’s princess in waiting. Regardless of whether the native has descended from great wealth or is a member of a poverty-stricken family, the encounter is always very real, and for both, very exotic.

Bear in mind that this discussion is with regard to two persons from very different worlds, cultures, and languages, meeting on that destined day, in what will become a magical moment in their lives. It may be love at first sight that began with eye contact and smiles; or possibly a love that had gradually developed between the vacationer and resident. We are discussing true and sincere loving emotions. This is not about two persons who have come together for a mutually-agreed-to business transaction that will encompass the exchange of bodies and currency.

A wonderful vacation has become perfect after a magnificently romantic dinner, a night of dancing to unfamiliar music, and drinking foreign cocktails. Standing closely together, facing each other on a terrace beneath the stars and moon. The loud music, loud talking, and laughter of others are now faded sounds of a distant background that they have exited. A gentle breeze is felt on their cheeks. They gaze into each other’s eyes and speak softly, sharing each other’s thoughts. Then there is wonderful sex, followed by an early morning stroll on the beach, holding hands. There will be trips to museums, a drive to the mountains, lunch at an outdoor café, much laughter, unforgettable songs on the radio, and many pictures taken of the couple as they hold each other tightly.

The majority of such love affairs with a foreign stranger will end at the airport with a kiss. Shortly after the tourist has returned to his or her homeland the days may be followed by a courteous exchange of letters with the now far-away love, and occasional costly telephone calls. Yet it all eventually comes to an abrupt end, the tourist having realized that it was just a wonderful vacation, and nothing more, though relishing that it will live in his or her memory forever.

There are the ones, however, that refuse to allow it all to relinquish to just a memory.

It would be unfair to criticize those who travel to Cuba for having desired to complete the perfect vacation. It would be equally unfair to accuse a tourist, who has fallen in love with the moment, of exploitation of the Cuban people, simply because he or she has become intimate with a poverty-stricken native of the island. The relationship between the Cuban and the tourist is real, just as it would be in any other nation of the world.

Both the foreign tourist and native Cuban are achieving desired goals; the traveler a memorable vacation, and the Cuban the chance for a few meals, some gifts, and the possibility of traveling to other unknown regions of the island. Both enjoy the times they share together, and they create everlasting wonderful memories. The complications occur when that final kiss at the airport is not considered final, and the couple attempts to generate a long-term long-distance relationship after the tourist has departed.

Long distance relationships are almost always at high risk for failure. While success stories are told and true, the chances of a successful relationship between two persons living worlds apart are rare. With regard to love relationships between tourists and Cubans there are many factors often ignored by the love-blind tourist; clear indications that a long-term relationship is not possible, and destined to be doomed.

Nearly all Cubans live with an inherent mechanism that compels them to survive their dire livelihood, and if possible, to prosper. For many, the arrival of a person from an outside land, and interaction with that person, provides the Cuban that opportunity, if only temporarily. This is not to say that the love affair will not be real. What is likely, however, is that any plans of extending the relationship after the tourist has departed will be a deception incorporated by both. The love-blind tourist should then remove that blindfold from his or her eyes, and understand that our hearts are often very powerful persuaders not telling us the truth.

There are numerous indications available to tourists in Cuba that if taken into perspective will lessen the possibility of a high-risk relationship. For example, any encounter in Cuba with a native who had congregated in or near an establishment frequented by tourists should be considered questionable. Cubans that were met in or around parks, bars, restaurants, nightclubs, or any other location often visited or patronized by tourists are not likely to enter into a true and sincere loving relationship. If a Cuban is going to places that tourists go, this should be recognized as a warning.

The aging male will often, in a sense of desperation, seek rejuvenation in his life, refusing to believe that he no longer has the ability to achieve happiness with an attractive lady companion that is much younger. Not realizing his actions, a challenge builds subconsciously his mind, and he sets out to meet that challenge. To conquer such a task will leave him satisfied and proud. He will rise from bed each morning knowing that he has not aged to the point of severe inabilities.

For many men this challenge and conquering occurs in the island nation of Cuba. The man may not realize the reality of the circumstance, yet his conscious surely knows that simply returning to his homeland with memories of an adventure would not complete the task. It is complete when the Cuban lover is in his homeland—far from Cuba—sharing a home, and sharing a life with him. Unfortunately, the realization for many of these men is the eventual discovery of doom, and the only thing the man will achieve is bitterness that haunts him for a very long time to come.

These are men who strongly believe that they look and feel younger than their actual age. And to prove it they travel to Cuba, and seek out a beautiful, young Cuban lady. The man believes that a big age difference is not a factor, because he is different than other men, and because his relationship with a Cuban lover is also different. He refuses to believe anything to the contrary, and his thinking is reinforced when the Cuban lady assures him that he looks great, handsome, and young. Something that she must say.

A big age difference between the tourist and Cuban will surely be a relationship at high-risk for failure. And more so if the man is or was married and has children. The tourist in Cuba can be absolutely certain that no Cuban lady will believe a man who tells her: "I am married but will soon divorce to be with you" or any words to that effect.

A Cuban lady is also unlikely to remain in a long-term relationship with a tourist if he states that he was married, because (unless the personal witnessing of divorce papers convinces her) she will believe that he is still married. The Cuban lady who has not had children is also very unlikely to want to raise a man’s children from another marriage. Even if the man tells her that the children of his previous marriage are being raised by the mother, the Cuban may believe that there will be times she is required to accept the burden. Many Cuban ladies are also very concerned with arriving in a foreign land only to be forced into a life of servitude or prostitution. Such horror stories have often returned to Cuba from abroad.

Cuban women will often continue a relationship after the tourist’s departure with no intention of ever leaving her country. She will tell the man everything he wants to hear. Yes I will marry you. Yes, I will leave Cuba and go to your country. But all is deception; in order that the long distance relationship continues as long as possible as a convenience to her, as long as cash and gifts the man sends continues to reach her door.

Extremely high-risk relationships are the ones that involve a tourist and a Cuban that works for the tourist industry of Cuba; such would include Cubans that are employed in hotels, resorts, restaurants, bars, nightclubs, a taxi service, and all points of interest frequented by tourists.

Janitorial workers, maids, musical band players, waiters, waitresses and others are employed in what is considered one of the most lucrative industries in Cuba. Very rarely does one ever depart this industry in Cuba, not even if offered the opportunity to live in a country considered far more prosperous. Yet they will lead a loving tourist to believe that he or she would go if marriage is proposed. It is a pretence created by the Cuban tourism worker for the same purpose previously mentioned: a continual flow of cash and gifts from the love blind tourist after he or she has returned back to their home.

What must be realized is that employees in tourist establishments have the closest access to tourists than anyone else on the island. Many of these employees (even many that are married) will allow themselves to accept the advances of a tourist.

What the tourist sometimes doesn’t realize is that a new batch of tourists has arrived after his or her departure from Cuba, new tourists that are also being courted by employees. For some male groups working at resort hotels, for example, it is common for them to observe young tourist ladies entering the resort or cabaret lounges, and secretively point out which of the ladies will be conquered, and by whom of the group. Each week, with a new bunch of tourists having arrived, the game begins anew.

And each time a tourist has left…the Cuban’s mailing list grows, as does gifts received in exchange promises of marriage and happiness. It is not uncommon for one Cuban to have such an engagement with a large number of former tourists.

While it may be true that there exists successful long-term loving relationships eventually resulting in marriage, happiness, the procreation of children, and a home shared by both, the high-risk elements had not been a factor in most of those cases.

Many will chose to ignore the high risks of such a relationship. That is because the heart is a vehicle far more powerful than any spoken or written word…or warning. Many will still fall into a world of deception. The heart remains, and so does the blindfold.

El Cubanito
09-23-08, 00:19
One of my closest friend did marry a normal or local Cuban girl back in 2003. Today they have 2 kids and have a very happy marriage. But the thing is that my friend live in the Island with her for a year. They got to know one another real well and they truly enjoy one another company. I know what you are thinking he must be a Cuban-American. Actually he is 100% American, a Blue Blood. They do not come more american than that, but they really like or love one another after a year of living together.

El Rey De Pollo
09-23-08, 13:25
Man, you've been to Cuba at least five times and never saw anything else than Holguín and Camagüey? While I do like both cities, you are really missing out on Cuba. For every hot girl in Holguín there are 20 in Santiago and 50 in Havana...


Having only ever visited Holguin and Camaguey (at least 5 times each) I have no interest in going elsewhere. I can get what I need in either of these places.

If I had to rank them it would be:

1) Camaguey

2) Holguin

El Rey De Pollo
09-23-08, 13:33
This one deserves a reply.

Personally I like Havaneras, Santigueras, Holguíneras, Pinareñas, Camagüeyanas, Las Tuneras, Ciego de Alvillanas, Santa Claritas, Trinideras, Manzanilleras, baracoanas, Cienfuegeras, Guantanameras, Moanas, Bayameras, Cardenaritas, Sancti Spirituanas.... Just to name a few of my preferred...

My list would be something like:

1. Havana
2. Santiago
3. Guantanamo
4. Moa
5. Bayamo
6. Manzanillo
7. Camagüey
8. Holguín
9. Ciego de Avila
10. Trinidad

I think the ratio of hotties is better in Santiago and Bayamo, but the number of hot chicas in Havana is just too overwhelming for me to throw Havana from 1st place. Then again, Havana is, more than anything, my stomping ground.


While, we are on the convesation of Bollos. Which bollos in Cuba do you have a preference for? Santigueras, Holguinieras, Havaneras or Pinar Del rios. In my books the bollos from Pinar de Rios got to be the deadest chick I have ever met. I once met this gorgeous 18 year old by Santa Fe on 5th avenue. She was a total knock out, but her Bollos was very boring.

So which you do u gents prefer?

My Taste is Santiago. With havana a close second.

El Chico
09-23-08, 16:43
This one deserves a reply.

Personally I like Havaneras, Santigueras, Holguíneras, Pinareñas, Camagüeyanas, Las Tuneras, Ciego de Alvillanas, Santa Claritas, Trinideras, Manzanilleras, baracoanas, Cienfuegeras, Guantanameras, Moanas, Bayameras, Cardenaritas, Sancti Spirituanas.... Just to name a few of my preferred.Is it just me or do you guys find that there are more girls with big breasts in eastern provinces (i.e. Holguin)? In Havana, it seems to be a rare find.

Member #4366
09-23-08, 20:39
TG, are you sure about Moa? I'm sure that there are great looking chicas to be found near the nickel smelter but where to take them? Is there even a legal casa in Moa?

El Rey De Pollo
09-23-08, 20:47
I've never spend a night in Moa. I think that would take 5 years off my life right there. All the Moa-girls (except one) that I have met, was in other places, primarily Holguín. The one exception was a cutie on the mainroad outside Moa, gave her a ride and got a blow job on the road as a small thank you.

I find these girls interesting as they are - in my experience - the ones that differ most from the typical Cubana. As people may know, this is about the only region in Cuba where there are still strong traces in the people from the original native population.

But spending a night in Moa, honestly never crossed my mind.


TG, are you sure about Moa? I'm sure that there are great looking chicas to be found near the nickel smelter but where to take them? Is there even a legal casa in Moa?

El Cubanito
09-23-08, 20:56
TG, are you sure about Moa? I'm sure that there are great looking chicas to be found near the nickel smelter but where to take them? Is there even a legal casa in Moa?

Moa, has some incredible game. The girls here are real good looking. My friend wife is great looking.

Bucanero, there are many illegal casa that will let you use this house for an hour.

Member #4366
09-23-08, 21:13
Moa, has some incredible game. The girls here are real good looking. My friend wife is great looking.

Bucanero, there are many illegal casa that will let you use this house for an hour.

O.k., but where are you staying? The hotel won't accept foreigners, I believe.

Member #4167
09-23-08, 22:21
Moa, has some incredible game. The girls here are real good looking. My friend wife is great looking.

Bucanero, there are many illegal casa that will let you use this house for an hour.Sorry to disagree with my good friend, El Cubanito, but ...

Moa is a shithole. Their is a nickle refinery that pollutes the city with bright red smoke. The city has an acrid ammonia smell that will bring tears to your eyes.

Moa is the asshole of Cuba. I don't care if every women there is 19 and willing to fvck at the drop of the hat. I don't like even driving through there.

Steven Smith
09-23-08, 23:51
Just ended a 4-year relationship with my novia from Moa. Pics are posted in photo gallery. If any of you are in Moa, I would be interested in knowing if she is cruising for a customer again.

Stayed out of Moa this summer as she said the police presence was high.

Also. I understand there was some hurricane damage. Anyone there to see?

Luckystar67
09-28-08, 16:13
Hi everyone!

I'm Tom from Sweden, my first post here. First of all excuse my bad english.

I've been in Cuba many times and I also were married with a cuban girl for 8 years, but now were divorced for a year

My plan is to go back soon to Cuba soon.

One quiestion. Anyone know good datingsites with many cuban girls? . I've been looking around on the web, but I can't find any good. Latinamericancupid.com seems to be quiet good.

Steven Smith
09-28-08, 17:24
Hi everyone!

I'm Tom from Sweden, my first post here. First of all excuse my bad english.

I've been in Cuba many times and I also were married with a cuban girl for 8 years, but now were divorced for a year

My plan is to go back soon to Cuba soon.

One quiestion. Anyone know good datingsites with many cuban girls? . I've been looking around on the web, but I can't find any good. Latinamericancupid.com seems to be quiet good.cybercupido.com

It's free, with some limits.

Tattle
09-29-08, 06:08
Does anyone have advice on the cost of taxi to Havana from Varadero Airport.
Or other ways of getting to Havana. Is it possible to negotiate with one of the hotel bus drivers at the airport for a fare to one of the hotels such as Tropicoco or Atlantico?

Ranocchio
09-29-08, 07:37
Hi guys,

I will be in La Habana next week. Is my first trip to Cuba after some travel in half of the world. May you give me some informations, please?

Is better go there with Euros or Dollars?

Girls are allowed in all hotels or there are distinctions betwin girl-frienly and not? Good bars, pubs or dicoteque for mongers?

Any other information is really apreciated.

Thanks,

Jan

RubMeister100
09-30-08, 05:16
I just finished reading "Havana Nocturne. How the Mob Owned Cuba. And Then Lost It to the Revolution" by T. J. English.

A really interesting non-fiction story of the Havana night life in the forties and fifties. Talk about a wild time.

What really makes it cool is reading the stories and hearing the names of the clubs I've been to in Havana.

Johnny's, The Comodoro, Havana Hilton (now Havana Libre), The Riviera, having drinks on the terrace of the Hotel Nacional all take on a new perspective hearing the stories behind them.

Also some real insight into the reasons why things are the way they are and how they might be in the future. In fact it makes me think that the stories of the past twenty years might make for an interesting book also.

All in all a fascinating read for the Havana enthusiast.

Ranocchio
10-01-08, 00:28
Hi guys,

I'll be in La Habana next monday, any recomandations about friendly hotels, please?

And what about discoteque or bar where pick up girls?

Any indication will be apreciated.

Thanks

BeersTerry
10-01-08, 05:05
Pretty basic to get from Varadero to Havana.

Viazul runs at 08:00, 16:00 and 18:00. Cost is $10 CUC
Ask around for a hotel bus picking up package tours to Havana. Cost is $20.
Taxi is gonna cost you $60 or more.

Take euros. Make sure your credit card is non-American affiliated.

Girls can go into hotels BUT they will be registered. Three strikes and you're out.....I mean in prison. Lots of bribes being taken.

Since Raul took over, there have been very strict controls. Maybe you don't see them, but most Cubans know. Strange that there are more girls hanging around than in the last few years....and nice looking too.

Watched one guy stop his cab, chat up and pick up a girl and drive away on the malecon. It took maybe 15 seconds. He was either very good or she was very professional.

Wt Motorman
11-04-08, 21:13
If got a question for the vets. I've never been to Cuba because of the hastles I have read on getting p4p unlike other places I have been to but the country has always intrigued me. Is there a way to rent a private house or condo? I'm not to keen on living in a room with a family or staying at a hotel where security will stop the girl or ask what is going on or so forth. The way I figure, if i rent a condo or private house, women can stay as long as they want and come and go without fear of the Police hassling them.

Also, I'm 33 years old and of hispanic origin and am fluent in spanish. Will the police hassle me if I'm walking around with a girl minding my own business or will I have to talk a good game or possible bribe them to leave me and the girl alone?

Thanks in advance for all replies.

Kalifornication
11-13-08, 02:21
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El Rey De Pollo
11-13-08, 14:15
Motorman,

Realistically speaking there are no other options than to stay in the house of a family. Yes, there are some small private villas for rent around Havana, but the price is crazy. Expect to pay at least 180 cuc daily. And these are not luxury houses and you still won't be sure that the owners don't live in a house on the ground as it is not legal to rent out your house unnatended to tourists. Also, you still might get hassled. Even if it's a completely private house that does not mean that Cuban law allows girl to fuck around there. If police sees you arriving they can still hassle you.

Speaking fluent Spanish is clearly a big plus in Cuba for connecting with girls, but police and authorities will not care too much. Nobody - and I mean NOBODY - who is not Cuban can pass as a Cuban. I've seen Spanish and SouthAmerican guys in Havana buy crappy Cuban clothes and do whatever they can to blend in, but they still get offered cigars on every street corner and are spotted as tourists in seconds. It's strange. Cubans can spot a foreigner a mile away. So police will not care if you speak Spanish, but it may give you a better chance of convincing them that the girl is your girl friend.

I am not going to tell you not to go to Cuba. I love Cuba myself. But for anyone who is not into the challenges and hassles that is just a huge part of mongering in Cuba, this place is not the right choice. If you want girls all over, stripbars, clubs and to be able to walk the streets with the girls, there are many better options. Cuba is totallt different. You've got to enjoy the whole suspect game of avoiding police and hiding with your girls in order to enjoy it there.


If got a question for the vets. I've never been to Cuba because of the hastles I have read on getting p4p unlike other places I have been to but the country has always intrigued me. Is there a way to rent a private house or condo? I'm not to keen on living in a room with a family or staying at a hotel where security will stop the girl or ask what is going on or so forth. The way I figure, if i rent a condo or private house, women can stay as long as they want and come and go without fear of the Police hassling them.

Also, I'm 33 years old and of hispanic origin and am fluent in spanish. Will the police hassle me if I'm walking around with a girl minding my own business or will I have to talk a good game or possible bribe them to leave me and the girl alone?

Thanks in advance for all replies.

Baudelairemod
11-13-08, 15:02
Motorman,

Realistically speaking there are no other options than to stay in the house of a family. Yes, there are some small private villas for rent around Havana, but the price is crazy. Expect to pay at least 180 cuc daily. And these are not luxury houses and you still won't be sure that the owners don't live in a house on the ground as it is not legal to rent out your house unnatended to tourists. Also, you still might get hassled. Even if it's a completely private house that does not mean that Cuban law allows girl to fuck around there. If police sees you arriving they can still hassle you.

Speaking fluent Spanish is clearly a big plus in Cuba for connecting with girls, but police and authorities will not care too much. Nobody - and I mean NOBODY - who is not Cuban can pass as a Cuban. I've seen Spanish and SouthAmerican guys in Havana buy crappy Cuban clothes and do whatever they can to blend in, but they still get offered cigars on every street corner and are spotted as tourists in seconds. It's strange. Cubans can spot a foreigner a mile away. So police will not care if you speak Spanish, but it may give you a better chance of convincing them that the girl is your girl friend.

I am not going to tell you not to go to Cuba. I love Cuba myself. But for anyone who is not into the challenges and hassles that is just a huge part of mongering in Cuba, this place is not the right choice. If you want girls all over, stripbars, clubs and to be able to walk the streets with the girls, there are many better options. Cuba is totallt different. You've got to enjoy the whole suspect game of avoiding police and hiding with your girls in order to enjoy it there.
Amen. Very well said!

El Grande
11-13-08, 18:37
I guess there's a missunderstanding.

casa particular = (mostly) not independent room. Here you live with a familiy or at least you have to enter through the same entrance as the family does

casa particular independiente (cpi) = A room or a part of the house with its own entrance. The family enters through its own entrance and leaves this part of the house to you.

If you are talking about a casa particular with a independent entrance then you're right. Thats the only way to enter chicas without any problems.
There are plenty of independent casa particulares in Havana. They normally are about 20-30 CUC a day. But its not a whole house, its an apartment or a room in a house that has a independent entrance.

Renting whole houses is illegal in Cuba as the owner of the casa always has to be in the house when the tourist is in there (at least oficiallly). So it's a big risk to rent out a whole house. They risk to loose their licence. Nevertheless there are also many apartments and even some houses to be rent.

If you rent a independent casa particular and the police controls it the owner can pretend that he did not see you entering with the girl. Then he can't be blamed. You won't be blamed neither. The girl will be blamed. Sad but true.

BTW for everyone who cares about the hurricanes:

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Wt Motorman
11-14-08, 10:14
Thanks to you all for your replies. El grande, you have cleared up a lot for me. I didn't know that there were casa particulars with private entrances. That would certainly make things a lot easier for me.

El Rey De Pollo
11-15-08, 02:29
What you need to be aware of here is that you may very well find a casa with a private entrance but then in the living room you'll have a thin curtain dividing your part of the house from the owners kitchen.

Just to say that it's not just about 'private entrance'. There are many things to consider and take into consideration when looking for a casa. It really is a jungle and often hit or miss. But, naturally, the private entrance will be the first thing on your list when you search and a good place to start looking.


Thanks to you all for your replies. El grande, you have cleared up a lot for me. I didn't know that there were casa particulars with private entrances. That would certainly make things a lot easier for me.

BeersTerry
11-15-08, 04:44
What the rules are:

A casa can be licensed to rent up to a maximum of two rooms. The owner must live on the premises. The rooms cannot be separated from the owners dwellings.

Now, you may find something other than listed above, but as previously suggested, it will be removable or in a form that can be explained to authorities.

Other things you may want to know. The owner (or someone closely related) is to be in his casa at all times when they have guests (whether the guests are in the casa or not).

All guests are to be registered.

Be aware that under the current administration, all regulations are being administered tightly. Only the Cubans will know what and when is being done.

Welcome to Cuba!

Kalifornication
11-15-08, 18:02
what the rules are:

a casa can be licensed to rent up to a maximum of two rooms. the owner must live on the premises. the rooms cannot be separated from the owners dwellings.

now, you may find something other than listed above, but as previously suggested, it will be removable or in a form that can be explained to authorities.

other things you may want to know. the owner (or someone closely related) is to be in his casa at all times when they have guests (whether the guests are in the casa or not).

all guests are to be registered.

be aware that under the current administration, all regulations are being administered tightly. only the cubans will know what and when is being done.

welcome to cuba!

i typically stay at a home in vedado, very nice family. the wife is a bit off her rocker (hthe husband and son will confirm this), but, she will let you bring up whoever you want, so long as te chica registers. she will howver give a speech about the good girls and the bad girls.

i like this location because rental is a guest house/apartment in the back of the main house. this location is indeed a true private entrance.

El Rey De Pollo
11-16-08, 01:09
and so do you actually register all the girls or is the entrance hidden so that you can sneak them in? as we all know, many cubanas won't register.

i am asking because the true casa-gems are the ones where the owners will give you the usual speeches, tell you that all visitors must be registered, but will in fact let you take home who you want unregistered as long as you do it discreetly. sort of a hear-no-evil-see-no-evil approach.

problem is that it's impossible to know in advance what kind of casa you end up at.

if anyone is still in doubt: cuba is a weird place where 'pre-trip research' takes on a whole new meaning - and the shape of a full time job.


i typically stay at a home in vedado, very nice family. the wife is a bit off her rocker (hthe husband and son will confirm this), but, she will let you bring up whoever you want, so long as te chica registers. she will howver give a speech about the good girls and the bad girls.

i like this location because rental is a guest house/apartment in the back of the main house. this location is indeed a true private entrance.

JohnMajor23
11-16-08, 14:25
My friends,

I was in a casa in the vedado with private entrance.

So for the day time, the girls had to register and it was never a problem. If the girl doesn't want, its because she will rob you so you don't care.

I bring 6 girls in 7 days and it was never a problem. The owner has a book "visitantes " and he has that only for our security, he won't give that to the gov or whatever.

And the night, when he was sleeping, very easy, I have taken 2 girls with me and did a 3some with lesbi show (the night is better because he doest want more de 2 girl in the room).

But the first time I was in an other casa in vedado and only the night I took girls because the owner doest want girls in the casa and the room had not a private entrance. But I don't care like you see!

BeersTerry
11-16-08, 23:39
There still is a three strikes rule in Cuba. It might mean nothing to you but it means prison time for the girl.

I have an apartment in Vedado, so I do whatever I want so long as I don't let anyone see me.

El Rey De Pollo
11-17-08, 00:41
I am sorry, John, but you are giving wrong information.

There are many, many girls who won't register, and not because she will rob you once in your room. Naturally lots of pros and semi-pros will not register, because they will either have a strike or two allready or just be afraid of getting the first strike. Many regular girls will not register - for the same reason.

No casa owners send in copies of their books to the government, that much is right, but government inspections happens frequently and they always look in the book and may very well take note of names in it to compare with names in books from other casas.

To sum up: If a girl does not want to go to your casa because she will have to register, it is NOT a given that this is because she plans to rob you. I have had plenty of girls in my casas who did not rob me, but who would never had been there if they had been asked to register.


My friends,

I was in a casa in the vedado with private entrance.

So for the day time, the girls had to register and it was never a problem. If the girl doesn't want, its because she will rob you so you don't care.

I bring 6 girls in 7 days and it was never a problem. The owner has a book "visitantes " and he has that only for our security, he won't give that to the gov or whatever.

And the night, when he was sleeping, very easy, I have taken 2 girls with me and did a 3some with lesbi show (the night is better because he doest want more de 2 girl in the room).

But the first time I was in an other casa in vedado and only the night I took girls because the owner doest want girls in the casa and the room had not a private entrance. But I don't care like you see!

Kalifornication
11-17-08, 00:41
and so do you actually register all the girls or is the entrance hidden so that you can sneak them in? as we all know, many cubanas won't register.

i am asking because the true casa-gems are the ones where the owners will give you the usual speeches, tell you that all visitors must be registered, but will in fact let you take home who you want unregistered as long as you do it discreetly. sort of a hear-no-evil-see-no-evil approach.

problem is that it's impossible to know in advance what kind of casa you end up at.

if anyone is still in doubt: cuba is a weird place where 'pre-trip research' takes on a whole new meaning - and the shape of a full time job.

i have my one girl in cuba. and she registes with me at this casa no problema. since i am stuck on her, rightly or wrongly, i have not registered others. however, my friend has registered several girls at this casa.

i was just indicating that this is an independent unit in the back of the main house. the owner (wife), gives the speech that she does not care so long as the girls register. i am aware that chicas are fearful in light of the issue of being deemed a prostitute. it is indeed safer for them to lure you to the illegal casas where reg is not required.

this casa owner will listen for you comming in even at 5am. she is that paranoid. the house has a gated entrance, and you must go along the side of the home to get to the backyard to reach the apartments.

El Rey De Pollo
11-17-08, 00:48
thanks for the answer. i applaud your choice to stick with just one girl, something i have yet to try in cuba.

yeah, that woman sounds like many casa owners i have seen across the island sitting up with heavy eyes until sunlight waiting for me to come home just to make sure i am not smuggling in a chica.

crazy place: think of the hours spend, money wasted and other crimes neglected in this country on account of the paranoid efforts that the state sets up to prevent a simple tourist from getting a piece of innocent cuban ass.


i have my one girl in cuba. and she registes with me at this casa no problema. since i am stuck on her, rightly or wrongly, i have not registered others. however, my friend has registered several girls at this casa.

i was just indicating that this is an independent unit in the back of the main house. the owner (wife), gives the speech that she does not care so long as the girls register. i am aware that chicas are fearful in light of the issue of being deemed a prostitute. it is indeed safer for them to lure you to the illegal casas where reg is not required.

this casa owner will listen for you comming in even at 5am. she is that paranoid. the house has a gated entrance, and you must go along the side of the home to get to the backyard to reach the apartments.

Kalifornication
11-17-08, 03:34
Thanks for the answer. I applaud your choice to stick with just one girl, something I have yet to try in Cuba.

Yeah, that woman sounds like many casa owners I have seen across the island sitting up with heavy eyes until sunlight waiting for me to come home just to make sure I am not smuggling in a chica.

Crazy place: Think of the hours spend, money wasted and other crimes neglected in this country on account of the paranoid efforts that the state sets up to prevent a simple tourist from getting a piece of innocent Cuban ass.


Well said brother!

JohnMajor23
11-17-08, 11:45
I don't know. But I have never had a problem for the registration in la havana. And the same girl comes 2 or 3 times and it has never been a problem.

So I am lucky if I listen you. 6 girls in 7 days (sometimes it was 2 the same day but not in the same time).

Whatever the most important is to fuck them. Jeje

PincheCabron
11-23-08, 21:30
Anyone know if any of the so called "global" wi-fi networks like IPass will work for your laptop in cuba? I've heard stories of people getting internet somewhere in remote areas of china so cuba being so close to the states wouldn't be a big stretch. Thanks for any info.

Bonker04
11-24-08, 20:18
i believe that one or two of the lager hotels in havana (melia cohiba and hotel national were mentioned) have wi-fi but generally they are not available.

presumably that is to prevent the locals having access to the internet which is tightly controlled. they have access to email via correos de cuba (cuban post) but not internet. even the internet cafe in terminal three in havana airport (international terminal) had been closed down the last i was there in october.

as for registering the chicas, this is a very difficult point for the girls. if they are your regular girl then no problem. but if they are caught registering with more than one tourist then this can be a big problem. one girl i have known for about six years got caught a was given a 4 year prison sentence. she was let out after about 6 months.

and as for smuggling a girl in. don't do it guys. i can sympathise with the casa owner who stayed up till 5am just in case. one very good friend of mine who had probably one of the best run casa particulars (and who i regularly stayed with over five years)was caught completely unawares by an early morning inspection when an american guy had smuggled in a girl during the night.

the tourist got off scott free of course but the girl had big problems, but more importantly the casa owner was immediatly shut down, fined 1400 cuc's, had a whole load of property confirep001ed, dvd's, tv's, aircon, and hi-fi, and after a year of going back and forward to court was sentenced to five years in prison, of which he served 1 year. and he was asleep when the offender smuggled the girl in!

cuba is certainly not an easy place to operate, but it certainly has it's rewards if, in my experience, you are after the ultimate in gfe!

Baudelairemod
11-25-08, 13:43
i confirm that this is true eve if many owners aren't so strict: maybe they don't fear problems! in any case when you find a good casa, generally you keep it for yourself since it isn't so easy to find a chica-friendly casa. off course if you are looking for a gfe experience and you get immediately the right girl, registering isn't so bad, else you should be prepared to do it in the bush, if the owner wants her ot register... ;-)
i've read that now internet in available to almost anybody (a raul's law) so i think that if you don't get it with your laptop, you won't have problems in other ways.


i believe that one or two of the lager hotels in havana (melia cohiba and hotel national were mentioned) have wi-fi but generally they are not available.

presumably that is to prevent the locals having access to the internet which is tightly controlled. they have access to email via correos de cuba (cuban post) but not internet. even the internet cafe in terminal three in havana airport (international terminal) had been closed down the last i was there in october.

as for registering the chicas, this is a very difficult point for the girls. if they are your regular girl then no problem. but if they are caught registering with more than one tourist then this can be a big problem. one girl i have known for about six years got caught a was given a 4 year prison sentence. she was let out after about 6 months.

and as for smuggling a girl in. don't do it guys. i can sympathise with the casa owner who stayed up till 5am just in case. one very good friend of mine who had probably one of the best run casa particulars (and who i regularly stayed with over five years)was caught completely unawares by an early morning inspection when an american guy had smuggled in a girl during the night.

the tourist got off scott free of course but the girl had big problems, but more importantly the casa owner was immediatly shut down, fined 1400 cuc's, had a whole load of property confirep001ed, dvd's, tv's, aircon, and hi-fi, and after a year of going back and forward to court was sentenced to five years in prison, of which he served 1 year. and he was asleep when the offender smuggled the girl in!

cuba is certainly not an easy place to operate, but it certainly has it's rewards if, in my experience, you are after the ultimate in gfe!

El Rey De Pollo
11-26-08, 02:17
Baude.... dude, I don't really get it. You're a nice guy - I've been giving you info and help in private recently - but you have never been to Cuba, so how can you confirm things in Cuba?

As for the Internet, I highly doubt they have wireless at Nacional, since this is where I usually go to check mails and they have an internet-room which is always packed with tourists (and which has the second slowest connection I have tried in Cuba with only Capitolio being slower).

As for catching any kind of wifi signal in your casa, regular hotel, terrace, car etc etc etc - basically anywhere apart from one or two hotels - you can forget it.

PincheCabron
11-26-08, 08:32
I assumed as much. But if people are getting internet off the beaten path in china via satellite how long before you can get it in your casa in a country 90 miles from broadband heaven. Shouldn't be too far off I would think. Then again cuba will probably spend millions to try to block that signal.


As for the Internet, I highly doubt they have wireless at Nacional, since this is where I usually go to check mails and they have an internet-room which is always packed with tourists (and which has the second slowest connection I have tried in Cuba with only Capitolio being slower).

As for catching any kind of wifi signal in your casa, regular hotel, terrace, car etc etc etc - basically anywhere apart from one or two hotels - you can forget it.[/QUOTE]

Americano573
11-26-08, 11:03
YOU ca easily find wireless internet in hotel parque central next to parque central of the same name the connection is also very fast the price is somewhat steep i think at $17 a hour however that being said it is a sure shot for wireless internet. i think the melia cohiba hotel in vedado also offers wireless but i have not been there in a couple months so cant say for sure seeing that things are always changing in cuba

Aesder
11-27-08, 07:45
Guys,

Wasn't sure where to post this question.

Where is the best place for diving and mongering when all things (the quality of the diving and the women, the cost, etc.).

I am planning a trip for January or February (my first such trip) and want to get the best bang (pun intended) for my buck.

Thanks

Kalifornication
11-28-08, 05:57
Guys,

Wasn't sure where to post this question.

Where is the best place for diving and mongering when all things (the quality of the diving and the women, the cost, etc.).

I am planning a trip for January or February (my first such trip) and want to get the best bang (pun intended) for my buck.

Thanks

According to El Cubanito, the best place for diving (if I understand you correctly), taking into account quality and cost (qulaity being the most important factor), is the "bollo" located in Santiago de Cuba. We are talking about the "bollo" yes?

Smile this is a joke.

PincheCabron
11-28-08, 06:18
I'm a well known diver in this city and I goes deep. Anyway the two hobbies diving and mongering aren't mutually compatible in one spot. Good diving spots in trinidad and cayo coco but not the best cities to get laid. I would ditch that idea and dedicate yourself to either one while you're there. You can't even bring a chica you met and take her to any tourist diving spots unless you're married. Unfortunately this is cuba not brazil.


According to El Cubanito, the best place for diving (if I understand you correctly), taking into account quality and cost (qulaity being the most important factor), is the "bollo" located in Santiago de Cuba. We are talking about the "bollo" yes?

Smile this is a joke.

Methos
11-28-08, 16:13
Guys,

Wasn't sure where to post this question.

Where is the best place for diving and mongering when all things (the quality of the diving and the women, the cost, etc.).

I am planning a trip for January or February (my first such trip) and want to get the best bang (pun intended) for my buck.

Thanks


Santiago. The Bucanero has a dive shop. It's about a 20 minute scooter ride from the city and the diving is great. Plus, the water is really warm all year round in this part of Cuba. If you are going from Canada, you can sometimes get an AI at the Bucanero for not much more than the flight price. And, tons of pussy in Santiago.

Allplay
02-12-09, 16:55
Guys,

It's my first post and I think it might be helpfull to give you a link with good resolution maps form cities/areas from Cuba.

Hxxp: //rapidshare.com/files/20108486/Cuba_Havana_Varadero_Scan_OZI. Rar.html (replace the xx with tt for link to work)

Keep the infos up to date,

Good job, so far.

El Grande
02-12-09, 21:44
Guys,

It's my first post and I think it might be helpfull to give you a link with good resolution maps form cities/areas from Cuba.

Hxxp: //rapidshare.com/files/20108486/Cuba_Havana_Varadero_Scan_OZI. Rar.html (replace the xx with tt for link to work)

Keep the infos up to date,

Good job, so far.

Try: www.cubamapa.com

El Rey De Pollo
02-14-09, 03:54
Just back from 6 weeks in Cuba, Havana, Trinidad, Santiago, Holguín, Las Tunas, Camagüey, Sancti Spiritus.

It's been 6 months since my last visit and Cuba is going the same way it has gone for my last 4-5 visits: The wrong way. That is if we are talking about mongering.

Don't get me wrong. I had a great time as always, hung out with 3-4 girls I know from previous trips and met 3-4 new regular girls. But as I see it, Cuba is no fun for the first time traveller who does not speak Spanish. It's simply a mongering shithole.

I had a friend visit me for 3 weeks. We did one week together in Havana and 2 in the province. This guy is 32, well-trained, intelligent, funny and can pick up hot girls in any clun in Europe and North America. Objectively speaking, he is a better looking guy than me. But in Cuba, because he only speaks a little Spanish, and not enough to carry on meaningfull conversations or charm the pants of girls, he is limited to pro's. And where the pro's used to be regular girls who studied at the university and went out once in a while to earn a little cash, they are now all hardcore putas. With everything that follows: Bad behaviour, greed, lack of personality and lust for sex. Why? Because today they can live off the money from selling sex. The rates are higher and tourism has dobled in the last 5-7 years in Cuba. It used to be that they could make a little on the side. Now the hardcore putas are the richest people in the streets of Havana and other towns.

So to sum up: My friend landed with a hard-on. Eager to fuck as many as he could take in on a three week stay. He ended up fucking one single girl. All the other that were available were just off-putting in terms of looks and personality. Cuban jineteras used to whistle, smile and have style, today they ask 'you looking for girls? I suck and fuck. Vamos!'

He is now in Costa Rica getting it on and wonøt be going back to Cuba anytime soon.

5 years ago I spoke only a little Spanish, but I could walk out into the street and go home with a hot, charming girl within the hour. Sometimes a regular girl (who might not give it up on this first encounter, though), and sometimes a semi-pro. Today that is impossible. If you are looking for hot girls whose pussies have not been tested by 300 old Italians that is.

I used to go out and search full days. Either on foot or in my car. I loved it. The excitement of heading out knowing you could very well return in an hour or three with the hottest girl you had ever fucked, was a rush in a league of it's own. This time I went out on 3 or 4 of these hunts in my first two weeks. Every time I came back alone 5-6-7 hours later. So I gave it up. I can still get lucky and find a beautiful girl in an isolated spot where police won't bust her and neighbors wonøt be calling her a *****, but nowadays this counts as luck and not as an integral part of any stay there.

I love Cuba. I miss it all year round. I recommend anyone interested in culture, salsa, mojitos and nice beaches to get their ass to Cuba before it's all gone. But I don't recommend anyone heading there with intent on picking up hot girls or getting laid on a regular basis.

Don't get me wrong. There are probably as many girls available in a place like Havana as there were 5 years ago, if not more. Problem is that 5 years ago they were 18-19 year old beautiful mulatas and latinas in it for both a little money and a little fastlove. Today, they are 24 year old worn-out prostitutes.

And the tragic thing? It's the same girls...

La Isla
02-14-09, 05:20
Ahhhhhhh....Cuba. It's definately a love/hate thing with that fucking place.

Did you try using any online sites? They have worked like a charm for me the last 2-3 years. It works well for them too. Many of them are university students and obviously can't afford to get busted. They definately won't walk the streets like the good old days. You line everything up online and meet them discreetly.
And the provinces? Forget it.....


Just back from 6 weeks in Cuba, Havana, Trinidad, Santiago, Holguín, Las Tunas, Camagüey, Sancti Spiritus.

It's been 6 months since my last visit and Cuba is going the same way it has gone for my last 4-5 visits: The wrong way. That is if we are talking about mongering.

Don't get me wrong. I had a great time as always, hung out with 3-4 girls I know from previous trips and met 3-4 new regular girls. But as I see it, Cuba is no fun for the first time traveller who does not speak Spanish. It's simply a mongering shithole.

I had a friend visit me for 3 weeks. We did one week together in Havana and 2 in the province. This guy is 32, well-trained, intelligent, funny and can pick up hot girls in any clun in Europe and North America. Objectively speaking, he is a better looking guy than me. But in Cuba, because he only speaks a little Spanish, and not enough to carry on meaningfull conversations or charm the pants of girls, he is limited to pro's. And where the pro's used to be regular girls who studied at the university and went out once in a while to earn a little cash, they are now all hardcore putas. With everything that follows: Bad behaviour, greed, lack of personality and lust for sex. Why? Because today they can live off the money from selling sex. The rates are higher and tourism has dobled in the last 5-7 years in Cuba. It used to be that they could make a little on the side. Now the hardcore putas are the richest people in the streets of Havana and other towns.

So to sum up: My friend landed with a hard-on. Eager to fuck as many as he could take in on a three week stay. He ended up fucking one single girl. All the other that were available were just off-putting in terms of looks and personality. Cuban jineteras used to whistle, smile and have style, today they ask 'you looking for girls? I suck and fuck. Vamos!'

He is now in Costa Rica getting it on and wonøt be going back to Cuba anytime soon.

5 years ago I spoke only a little Spanish, but I could walk out into the street and go home with a hot, charming girl within the hour. Sometimes a regular girl (who might not give it up on this first encounter, though), and sometimes a semi-pro. Today that is impossible. If you are looking for hot girls whose pussies have not been tested by 300 old Italians that is.

I used to go out and search full days. Either on foot or in my car. I loved it. The excitement of heading out knowing you could very well return in an hour or three with the hottest girl you had ever fucked, was a rush in a league of it's own. This time I went out on 3 or 4 of these hunts in my first two weeks. Every time I came back alone 5-6-7 hours later. So I gave it up. I can still get lucky and find a beautiful girl in an isolated spot where police won't bust her and neighbors wonøt be calling her a *****, but nowadays this counts as luck and not as an integral part of any stay there.

I love Cuba. I miss it all year round. I recommend anyone interested in culture, salsa, mojitos and nice beaches to get their ass to Cuba before it's all gone. But I don't recommend anyone heading there with intent on picking up hot girls or getting laid on a regular basis.

Don't get me wrong. There are probably as many girls available in a place like Havana as there were 5 years ago, if not more. Problem is that 5 years ago they were 18-19 year old beautiful mulatas and latinas in it for both a little money and a little fastlove. Today, they are 24 year old worn-out prostitutes.

And the tragic thing? It's the same girls...

BeersTerry
02-14-09, 18:04
Cuba is rapidly becoming a shithole if it isn't already, but it is also one of the most culturally diverse latin countries.

The days of shooting fish in a barrel are long gone as TG indicates. I don't know why but I still like it.

El Rey De Pollo
02-15-09, 00:17
I think you read my post wrong. Yes, I can't pick up hot amateurs from the street like I could 5 years ago, but other than that I'm doing fine over there. But only because I speak Spanish and have connections.

My post was more of a low-down for anybody contemplating heading to Cuba for a first time visit to fuck their brains out with sexy girls. My amigo was the example of how tough it is, even for a good looking, young guy. Those days where you could pick them off the tree are long gone.

I tried those online sites once before a trip. Badoo and Cybercupido. Got about 6 numbers, but it was mostly a waste of time. Either they were too buisy to meet up and the ones that were not expected me to go out on 5-6 dates before getting down. I don't have time for that crap. That's what I can do everyday at home (Date girls and get nothing).

But in conclussion - also to Beersterry. I still love Cuba and I'll be going back as soon as I get the chance. But where chicas used to play a big part in my Cuba-affection, they now play a smaller part. If I wanted chicas on a daily basis, I could come up with at least 20 better (and cheaper) destinations.


Ahhhhhhh....Cuba. It's definately a love/hate thing with that fucking place.

Did you try using any online sites? They have worked like a charm for me the last 2-3 years. It works well for them too. Many of them are university students and obviously can't afford to get busted. They definately won't walk the streets like the good old days. You line everything up online and meet them discreetly.
And the provinces? Forget it.....

La Isla
02-15-09, 04:11
No, I read your post right and I agree with what you said. Like you, I have great connections and speak spanish well. You are 100% right about "how tough it is, even for a good looking, young guy. Those days where you could pick them off the tree are long gone." Also about "If I wanted chicas on a daily basis, I could come up with at least 20 better (and cheaper) destinations". Like you, I still love Cuba for many other reasons and will continue to go there, but its no longer a place for ho mongering only. Pero...es Cuba :)



I think you read my post wrong. Yes, I can't pick up hot amateurs from the street like I could 5 years ago, but other than that I'm doing fine over there. But only because I speak Spanish and have connections.

My post was more of a low-down for anybody contemplating heading to Cuba for a first time visit to fuck their brains out with sexy girls. My amigo was the example of how tough it is, even for a good looking, young guy. Those days where you could pick them off the tree are long gone.

I tried those online sites once before a trip. Badoo and Cybercupido. Got about 6 numbers, but it was mostly a waste of time. Either they were too buisy to meet up and the ones that were not expected me to go out on 5-6 dates before getting down. I don't have time for that crap. That's what I can do everyday at home (Date girls and get nothing).

But in conclussion - also to Beersterry. I still love Cuba and I'll be going back as soon as I get the chance. But where chicas used to play a big part in my Cuba-affection, they now play a smaller part. If I wanted chicas on a daily basis, I could come up with at least 20 better (and cheaper) destinations.

El Rey De Pollo
02-16-09, 14:42
Yeah, Cuba es Cuba. I think the time has come for me to broaden my horizons and look for an alternative destination. If there was a bit less crime in Colombia, I know where I would look for my new Cuba.

It's sad. Like Beersterry said, Cuba is fast becoming a shithole.


No, I read your post right and I agree with what you said. Like you, I have great connections and speak spanish well. You are 100% right about "how tough it is, even for a good looking, young guy. Those days where you could pick them off the tree are long gone." Also about "If I wanted chicas on a daily basis, I could come up with at least 20 better (and cheaper) destinations". Like you, I still love Cuba for many other reasons and will continue to go there, but its no longer a place for ho mongering only. Pero...es Cuba :)