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Dark Knight

08-21-09, 17:14

I noticed a news story that gives a pretty good idea why the girls are very happy with the cash gifts they are getting. They just tried to raise the minimum wage in the export assembly sector from 70 to 200 gourdes - and failed to raise it that high. 200 gourdes for an 8 hour day (less than $5 US) is a wage that people aspire to (and don't usually get in a market with 50% or more unemployment).

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48146

Just for perspective...

I have a friend who has a live-in maid/cook in suburban Port-au-Prince. She wakes up early, mops the floor, has his breakfast on the table by 9am, does the occasional food shopping, prepares dinner, keeps the house clean, etc. All of the duties that you would expect of the traditional maid function. I've eaten at his house, and she is an excellent cook and does a great job with keeping the house clean and his clothes laundered. Picture this: she lets him know when his food is on the table. He sits down and eats. Gets up and walks away. She clears the table, and washes the dishes. Sweet life, huh?

He provides her with room and board, and pays her US$ 150 per month. He treats her quite respectfully. And she is THRILLED with that. Her friends/acquaintances make substantially less. She can essentially "bank" her five dollars (U.S.) per day. She doesn't have to commute via tap-tap. She doesn't pay rent anywhere else (just helps her mother and family). She pays for her son to attend a good school.

With all due respect, I see that some of you guys are advocating paying these young girls up to $30-40 US. That is a small fortune to them - although they would never let you know it. I can't envision the scenario where you should give more than $1000 gourdes ($25 US) for TLN.

Cost benchmark: a bottle of the world-class local rum is $4 US.

Don't turn these women into "HELP" garotas. Please. They get QUICKLY spoiled by money.

With deference to BB2K and Papi, I have some knowledge of the country and culture, and I would be happy to share what I know.

Marc Anthony

08-22-09, 02:36

Just for perspective...
He provides her with room and board, and pays her US$ 150 per month. He treats her quite respectfully. And she is THRILLED with that. Her friends/acquaintances make substantially less. She can essentially "bank" her five dollars (U.S.) per day. She doesn't have to commute via tap-tap. She doesn't pay rent anywhere else (just helps her mother and family). She pays for her son to attend a good school.

With all due respect, I see that some of you guys are advocating paying these young girls up to $30-40 US. That is a small fortune to them - although they would never let you know it. I can't envision the scenario where you should give more than $1000 gourdes ($25 US) for TLN.

At 41:1 - $150(US) is 6150 Gourdes vs. 4000-5000 in an export plant (piecework rates) with no room and board or probably half that for a typical maid she's got a sweet job. He's doing well to have someone who feels good about her job and watches out for the place.

Bad Bear wrote:
"This is something you pretty well decide on your own. For ST maybe 20. For LT 25 to 40. It really depends on how good the service is. I have an old friend that spends 500 gdes which is about 13. Expensive it is not. Good it is not. It is GREAT. Trust me. If you like sweet chocolate, you are going to love Haiti."

BB also wrote:

"Ayyyypapi gets carried away. Badbear pays anywhere from 500 gdes to 1000 gdes. Devide that by 40 and you ahve the dollar. Occasionally if I get a real hot one I will pay a little more."

A modest explanation: I don't think there's any disagreement...

If you pay in dollars the convenient bill is the $20 if you pay in Gourdes it's the 500. Nobody is going to ask for change - and generally prices tend toward round figures. The fact that a $20 bill is over 800 gourdes rather than 500 doesn't change this. If you want to economize pay in gourdes.

These gourde rates happen to be exactly the same as the gringo rates in the DR (in pesos) before about 2003 or so. For quite a few years the standard was 500 pesos st/ 1000 lt. It's now about twice that in the DR so the Haiti rate would be a bit less than half the DR rate in dollar terms. In the DR you'd pay a lot more if you pay in dollars too. About half matches the difference between the general labor rates in the DR and Haiti and is the reason so many Haitians migrate to the DR looking for work.

As always some guys will just overpay and some girls will rapidly learn that it's stupid to not ask for more regardless of what you get. Based on BadBear and the posters with experience though - there seems to be a consensus that the normal rate is 500/1000 a bit less than half of DR prices converted to dollars.

Marc Anthony

08-22-09, 02:47

Thanks for a really excellent report. Any other details of your trip, thoughts or observations would be very welcome.

BootyLover

08-22-09, 13:06

At 41:1 - $150(US) is 6150 Gourdes vs. 4000-5000 in an export plant (piecework rates) with no room and board or probably half that for a typical maid she's got a sweet job. He's doing well to have someone who feels good about her job and watches out for the place.

Bad Bear wrote:
"This is something you pretty well decide on your own. For ST maybe 20. For LT 25 to 40. It really depends on how good the service is. I have an old friend that spends 500 gdes which is about 13. Expensive it is not. Good it is not. It is GREAT. Trust me. If you like sweet chocolate, you are going to love Haiti."

BB also wrote:

"Ayyyypapi gets carried away. Badbear pays anywhere from 500 gdes to 1000 gdes. Devide that by 40 and you ahve the dollar. Occasionally if I get a real hot one I will pay a little more."

A modest explanation: I don't think there's any disagreement...

If you pay in dollars the convenient bill is the $20 if you pay in Gourdes it's the 500. Nobody is going to ask for change - and generally prices tend toward round figures. The fact that a $20 bill is over 800 gourdes rather than 500 doesn't change this. If you want to economize pay in gourdes.

These gourde rates happen to be exactly the same as the gringo rates in the DR (in pesos) before about 2003 or so. For quite a few years the standard was 500 pesos st/ 1000 lt. It's now about twice that in the DR so the Haiti rate would be a bit less than half the DR rate in dollar terms. In the DR you'd pay a lot more if you pay in dollars too. About half matches the difference between the general labor rates in the DR and Haiti and is the reason so many Haitians migrate to the DR looking for work.

As always some guys will just overpay and some girls will rapidly learn that it's stupid to not ask for more regardless of what you get. Based on BadBear and the posters with experience though - there seems to be a consensus that the normal rate is 500/1000 a bit less than half of DR prices converted to dollars.

The price depends on many factors:
1- will you be a repeat customer in the very short term
2- how low she is on the poverty scale (cue: she's asking for food)
3- how much she's invested in her appearance (clothes, body cream, hair, cleanliness, etc.)
4- how educated she is (manners, foreign languages, etc.)
5- how well she stand compared to competition (big butt tend to have too high self esteem)
6- how a newbie you are (they get that quickly)
6- what is your/her skin color ( lighter is perceived to value more money)
7- how funny you are ( cheaper if you can make her laugh, not smile)
8- how experience she is (pros, semi pro)
9- how good are your negotiating skills
10- how many others are getting their contract while she hasn't yet
11- what is the time of the day/week (cheaper on daytime and on weekdays)
12- how you meet her (street pick, party, introduction, etc.)

Please bear in mind that the average price is 25 for a good piece, but you may find gems on the lower side and trash on the upper side

Note1. Always lock up your valuables even when dealing at or beyond 25
Note2. If you want multiple make sure the first one choose the others
Note3. Negotiate everything before getting started

Sawassdee

08-25-09, 02:37

Anybody have bad bears contact info?

I want to plan a trip to Haiti.Just click on his name and shoot him a private message.

He will answer.

BadBear2000

08-25-09, 15:55

That is all it takes. I am waiting for you at the Haitihouse

Just click on his name and shoot him a private message.

He will answer.

BadBear2000

08-25-09, 15:57

Ayyyypapi and I went out troling last night and 3 seconds into the trole, Ayyyypapi spotted a hottie. Got telephone and a promise of a visit to the Haiti House.

Ayyyypapi

08-25-09, 17:39

Ayyyypapi and I went out troling last night and 3 seconds into the trole, Ayyyypapi spotted a hottie. Got telephone and a promise of a visit to the Haiti House.Verified. Initiated trol at 10:09:45 pm. Target was spotted humming westbound at 10:09:48 pm; intercepted upon a 180. Rating: 9/10. Will not pursue entry into Guinness Book of World Records since it is easy to break that record here.

Brian5432

08-26-09, 07:25

I finally had a chance to stop by BB's house Monday afternoon before my Tuesday departure back to Miami, and walked into a mini carnival. As I walked in there were like 4 cuties dancing by the pool and Ayyyypapi was the DJ. I definitely liked what I was seeing.

I chatted with BB for a bit while watching two cuties playing with each other and giving a show in the pool. Got a tour of the house, safe and secure location. I give you a A++ BB for the house and the setup with the ladies. Thank you for receiving me so well and that meal was delicious !! If I wasn't pressed for time I probably would have hopped on Nadege the cook.....she had a killer booty.

I was please to meet Sergo and the rest of the staff, they were polite and helpful.
When I return to Haiti, I definitely will make it a priority to attend your parties.
Oh and Ayyyypapi I can see you are the perfect wingman, because you seem to be ready to party at any moment.

For those that are contemplating on going to Haiti, have no worries BB is awesome and will take good care of you!

Sorry no photos from this trip, I will try my best next time to take photos.

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BadBear2000

08-26-09, 13:27

Hornie B just texted me this info and like the anti-locking brakes that Mercedes invented and gave to the rest of the industry, this is too good to keep secret.
http://www.airtransat.ca/en/Info/port-au-prince-roundtrip-flights-starting-at-.aspx?ExitID=918&ContentType=gamme&gclid=CObcxPmytpwCFdFL5Qodl2fHm

This is a link to a flight deal from Montreal to Haiti House. Well not exactly to the Haiti House but to Port-au-Prince, Haiti and we will get you to the Haiti House.
The price is less than $300

BadBear2000

08-26-09, 16:37

This past Monday, my wife's two cousins showed up and went for a swim. Then 2 lesbians belonging to the lesbo hunting king Ayyyypapi decided to join. Here I was in the pool with a hard on watching the girls start playing children games and guess what I joined in. It suddenly realized that it is more than sex the Haitian girls give you. They give you a young feeling because you are not worrying about the day to day problems but the fact that you are playing with 18 to 25 year old hotties and loving it. I am 62 years old and feeling younger every day.

BadBear2000

08-26-09, 16:39

You have been asking for it and you now have it. Our website is up and running with all the answers to the questions you have. haitihouse dot com

Dark Knight

08-26-09, 20:07

You have been asking for it and you now have it. Our website is up and running with all the answers to the questions you have. haitihouse dot com

Looks great, BB. Congratulations.

Cunning Linguist

08-26-09, 22:58

I thought that I should write this separately in this thread. I put my comments about Haiti House in the photo thread along with photos. Perhaps Jackson could start another thread for this (Haitian politics) like he has done on other threads such as the one in Thailand, but I cannot resist making a few comments on Haiti itself since any thinking person cannot avoid doing so. Indeed, I think it is important that some people should know about what is really going on here.

Though Badbear and some of his friends would sometimes respectfully disagree with me on the impossible politics of Haiti (Badbear has a big heart and loves Haiti very much as well as his friends), I still think that there are significant issues here.

I was appalled at the neocolonialist condition of Haiti as reflected by its impoverishment. There is a difference between being a poor country and being an impoverished country. Haiti is a rich country that has been made impoverished by the policies of the U.S. government, France, and Canada. Haiti was the first country in Latin America to gain its independence but it was quashed on account of the fact that it was the only example of a successful slave rebellion. The seering facts of history are everywhere whether it is on the money or in the minds of the people. Haiti had to pay enormous reparations to France for the loss of the slaves until 1948!!!! This sum resulted in making Haiti the basket case it is today. It is on everybody's lips there.

All of the poor people I talked to, all of them without an exception, were for Aristide, the twice ousted president of Haiti (in coups perpetrated by the U.S. and/or France) while all of the expats and richer Haitians I talked to, all of them, were vehemently against him.

Although everyone in Haiti can speak Creole, the language of the elite is French and English. Creole is absent from street signs, most schools, newspapers, but is present on the lips of most of the people and scrawlings on the walls and even billboards. It is really symptomatic of the deep social divide. 85% of Haitians only speak Creole and many of the other so-called French speakers speak rather lousy French. Nevertheless, there will be no role for Creole until the elite allows for it which they will not do willingly. It is in their interest to cut off the 85% of the people who are unable to speak French in order to better control them.

There might be some idiots who spew the "Haitian-blacks-are-stupid-and-lazy-and-therefore-poor" arguments or misinformed people there who rant against giving the vote to the masses there because they are too uneducated or stupid to elect pro-American stooges but I suggest reading "Damming the Flood: Haiti, Aristide, and the Politics of Containment" by Peter Hallward or "An Unbroken Agony: Haiti, from Revolution to the Kidnapping of a President" by Randall Robinson to get an idea about what lies behind Haiti's impoverishment.

I would also suggest listening to e: http://web.mit.edu/webcast/tac/pugw...22feb02-16k.ram

which is a talk by Noam Chomsky and Paul Farmer (who actually lives in Haiti) in 2002. It was clear even then that Aristide was going to be overthrown by the U.S and their minions in Haiti. Indeed, he was swept up by the U.S. military and, against his will, whisked off to the Central African Republic in February, 2004. He now resides in South Africa.

Sorry if I have digressed from discussing the usual topics of Haitian pussy and the great availability thereof but I had to get this off my chest. One thing is screwing the girls, another thing is when another powerful country screws a weaker one, especially for a period of over 200 years..

BadBear2000

08-27-09, 02:55

It is hard to think about anything but pussy when you are in Haiti but I have to agree with CL in many of his statements. I do not think Aristide was the answer. I was here during most of his presidency. He got the poor people to vote for them by convincing them he would strip the rich of their money and give it to them. He turned them into cut-throat thieves while he loaded pallets full of money in his basement and shipped off to banks that were willing to hide his wealth. There are some wealthy families in Haiti that are good for Haiti and I have to agree there are some families that should be strung up. I would point out these families if it would do any good but more than likely it would just get the Haiti House blown up and then you guys would have no place to cum. Good evening and now back to pussy

I thought that I should write this separately in this thread. I put my comments about Haiti House in the photo thread along with photos. Perhaps Jackson could start another thread for this (Haitian politics) like he has done on other threads such as the one in Thailand, but I cannot resist making a few comments on Haiti itself since any thinking person cannot avoid doing so. Indeed, I think it is important that some people should know about what is really going on here.

Though Badbear and some of his friends would sometimes respectfully disagree with me on the impossible politics of Haiti (Badbear has a big heart and loves Haiti very much as well as his friends), I still think that there are significant issues here.

I was appalled at the neocolonialist condition of Haiti as reflected by its impoverishment. There is a difference between being a poor country and being an impoverished country. Haiti is a rich country that has been made impoverished by the policies of the U.S. government, France, and Canada. Haiti was the first country in Latin America to gain its independence but it was quashed on account of the fact that it was the only example of a successful slave rebellion. The seering facts of history are everywhere whether it is on the money or in the minds of the people. Haiti had to pay enormous reparations to France for the loss of the slaves until 1948!!!! This sum resulted in making Haiti the basket case it is today. It is on everybody's lips there.

All of the poor people I talked to, all of them without an exception, were for Aristide, the twice ousted president of Haiti (in coups perpetrated by the U.S. and/or France) while all of the expats and richer Haitians I talked to, all of them, were vehemently against him.

Although everyone in Haiti can speak Creole, the language of the elite is French and English. Creole is absent from street signs, most schools, newspapers, but is present on the lips of most of the people and scrawlings on the walls and even billboards. It is really symptomatic of the deep social divide. 85% of Haitians only speak Creole and many of the other so-called French speakers speak rather lousy French. Nevertheless, there will be no role for Creole until the elite allows for it which they will not do willingly. It is in their interest to cut off the 85% of the people who are unable to speak French in order to better control them.

There might be some idiots who spew the "Haitian-blacks-are-stupid-and-lazy-and-therefore-poor" arguments or misinformed people there who rant against giving the vote to the masses there because they are too uneducated or stupid to elect pro-American stooges but I suggest reading "Damming the Flood: Haiti, Aristide, and the Politics of Containment" by Peter Hallward or "An Unbroken Agony: Haiti, from Revolution to the Kidnapping of a President" by Randall Robinson to get an idea about what lies behind Haiti's impoverishment.

I would also suggest listening to e: http://web.mit.edu/webcast/tac/pugw...22feb02-16k.ram

which is a talk by Noam Chomsky and Paul Farmer (who actually lives in Haiti) in 2002. It was clear even then that Aristide was going to be overthrown by the U.S and their minions in Haiti. Indeed, he was swept up by the U.S. military and, against his will, whisked off to the Central African Republic in February, 2004. He now resides in South Africa.

Sorry if I have digressed from discussing the usual topics of Haitian pussy and the great availability thereof but I had to get this off my chest. One thing is screwing the girls, another thing is when another powerful country screws a weaker one, especially for a period of over 200 years..

Marc Anthony

08-27-09, 11:37

Great job on the website!

http://www.haitihouse.com/

Good job on the pictures. Thanks to CL for the pictures of the Haiti House setting from the roof and your report. I've tried to locate it on Google Earth but no luck finding it.

There are a few other travel resources on Haiti including Lonely Planet.

For a price comparison, the major hotels are all over $100/night without any of BadBears expertise or amenities and are probably not even guest friendly.

BadBear2000

08-27-09, 16:06

When you are visiting the Haiti House, it is very important to know the address for immigration. Please contact me for this info.

Indi Therapist

08-30-09, 08:00

BadBear2000

08-30-09, 21:28

because if some tight assed haitians that have gone to the u.s. and gotten americanized, we decided we needed to re-word it so as not to upset their views of what they think haiti is at this time. the house is still up and running and you can pm me for info.

what happened to the website? is it down? will it come back up?

Indi Therapist

08-31-09, 03:33

Because if some tight assed Haitians that have gone to the USA And gotten Americanized, we decided we needed to re-word it so as not to upset their views of what they think Haiti is at this time. The house is still up and running and you can pm me for info.can't pm at this time just let me know when the site is back up or send me an [Email address deleted by Admin]

Thank you

IT

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Miami Ab

08-31-09, 07:16

Because if some tight assed Haitians that have gone to the U.S. and gotten Americanized, we decided we needed to re-word it so as not to upset their views of what they think Haiti is at this time. The house is still up and running and you can pm me for info.BadBear,

I tried to PM you, I can't. I need to share some important info with you.

BadBear2000

09-02-09, 16:20

Even though the haitihouse website is not up, you can now reach me through my email there at info

BadBear2000

09-06-09, 15:07

Gentlemen, We try to make your stay at the Haiti House as eventful and as comfortable as possible. I just had a guest that was a vegetarian. I was unaware of it until after he was here and his stay was only for 3 days. I do not care what your eating habits are whether they are due to religious, health, or just plane taste choices, it is not your problem. This is my problem. Please let me know if you have any issues with certain foods and advise me before arriving what you do eat. I apologize for this problem with our guest even though we were trying to fill his tummy, I was not happy with us.

Thelmas Gone

09-07-09, 21:17

Hey BadBear. Any action lately at the HH? I will be there soon and need some incentive to make it thru this last week of work before I arrive.

Gentlemen, We try to make your stay at the Haiti House as eventful and as comfortable as possible. I just had a guest that was a vegetarian. I was unaware of it until after he was here and his stay was only for 3 days. I do not care what your eating habits are whether they are due to religious, health, or just plane taste choices, it is not your problem. This is my problem. Please let me know if you have any issues with certain foods and advise me before arriving what you do eat. I apologize for this problem with our guest even though we were trying to fill his tummy, I was not happy with us.

BadBear2000

09-07-09, 21:22

There were picks taken Saturday night that would blow your mind. We started to post them but just to give you an idea, there was over 12 hot babes in the pool getting drunk and naked. When you get here, you are going to go crazy and ask yourself why you didn't come before and then you will start trying to figure how many trips you can make during the next year. This place is guaranteed satisfaction unless you were castrated.

Hey BadBear. Any action lately at the HH? I will be there soon and need some incentive to make it thru this last week of work before I arrive.

BadBear2000

09-08-09, 01:30

There are many guys planning to come in the near future. There are some early birds that are already looking at a return visit. I really cannot imagine why. I mean after all there is danger lurking at every corner. Oooooops, I meant NOOKIE at every corner. I just had a gentlemen here for 4 days. I did not know whether he was enjoying himself after the first day so I asked him. His words were that he gotten laid more in the last 24 hours than he had in the last 3 months. We will have a turkey dinner on Thanksgiving. There will also be some hot chicks. Guys are starting to plan on Christmas, New Years, Carnival in Feb. Don't be too late and wind up holding your willy during those times. If you are a family guy, I understand.

BadBear2000

09-09-09, 19:31

I keep getting the same questions.
Q--If I am fat, can I still get a pretty Haitian girl A--YES
Q--Even though I am old and ugly can I still get a pretty Haitian girl A--Look at me I am 62, overweight, and ugly YES
Q--If I decide I want to live in Haiti can I get a pretty Haitian girl as a real live wife A--YES
Q--I see only spinners on your site, are there other shapes and sizes A--All sizes and shapes
Q--What are your rates and what do I get for the fee A--Contact me by PM here at ISG and I will give you all the info.

BadBear2000

09-15-09, 03:00

Even though this board has been dead for a few days, believe me the Haiti House is up and running. The visiting guys just don't have time for posting because they are too busy. One just called his buddy because he suddenly had more than he could handle and he needed help.

PlanetHouston

09-17-09, 01:00

On a scale of 1 to 10, how did women look? So far from what I have seen of the women posted, I am not impressed.

BadBear2000

09-17-09, 09:42

No actually he had two girls and a third showed up but because of house rules due to security and house supply abuse, he followed the rules and passed the new babe on to his buddy who was about to go trolling

More than he could handle. More than 3?

BadBear2000

09-17-09, 09:45

Most guys that take pics here are about as professional as I am with a camera. These girls are hot and you can find them anywhere from a 1 to a 10

On a scale of 1 to 10, how did women look? So far from what I have seen of the women posted, I am not impressed.

Shoesky

09-17-09, 15:09

Sawassdee

09-18-09, 01:53

On a scale of 1 to 10, how did women look? So far from what I have seen of the women posted, I am not impressed.As in every country you'll find extremely hot, hot and not so hot women. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. One of the best things here is if they fall in the not so hot in the face category their bodies are still toned nicely from all the walking. Planet, go on out there and find you a few that have faces that match those shapely bodies. You will find at least 4 or 5 a day in an hour span that you will want to take back with you for good and the rest you won't mind letting them ride. I've met a handful of these girls in real life and the pictures of most don't do them any justice. I. E. AAypappis virgin. She was a stone cold stunner, body to kill for and angel face but her pic here in no way did her justice. A few others as well. There only downside is most don't have money to style their hair so you will see a lot of wigs. AAypapi I repeat again.--give me your virgin!

BadBear2000

09-18-09, 20:15

Since the jacuzzi room was not taken last night, I took advantage and took #5 for a spin in it. We drank wine that Ayyyypapi had left her and I must say I am not a wine drinker but that shit was great. After a little frolicking in the jacuzzi I learned that my special purpose was definitely not dead. Needless to say, #5 is walking kinda funny today. I thought I was in Heaven or maybe I know I am in Heaven

Tavares

09-19-09, 01:26

BadBear2000

Is it possible to stay at Haiti House? or at some other place you may recommend?

I am planning a trip to Port-au-Prince sometime in feb2010

thanks

Tavares

Cunning Linguist

09-20-09, 17:20

As in every country you'll find extremely hot, hot and not so hot women. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. One of the best things here is if they fall in the not so hot in the face category their bodies are still toned nicely from all the walking. Planet, go on out there and find you a few that have faces that match those shapely bodies. You will find at least 4 or 5 a day in an hour span that you will want to take back with you for good and the rest you won't mind letting them ride. I've met a handful of these girls in real life and the pictures of most don't do them any justice. I. E. AAypappis virgin. She was a stone cold stunner, body to kill for and angel face but her pic here in no way did her justice. A few others as well. There only downside is most don't have money to style their hair so you will see a lot of wigs. AAypapi I repeat again.--give me your virgin!
You are so very right. I too had a great time there and I simply adore Haitian women. As for Ayyyypapi's virgin, well, I am not so sure she was a virgin after all. Before I had her, she told me that she wasn't after I had flat asked her about it. In any case, she certainly isn't one now!! ha, ha, ha!
In any case, you are my hero when it comes to dealing with the ladies, even when you don't know their lingo.

Sawassdee

09-21-09, 18:24

You are so very right. I too had a great time there and I simply adore Haitian women. As for Ayyyypapi's virgin, well, I am not so sure she was a virgin after all. Before I had her, she told me that she wasn't after I had flat asked her about it. In any case, she certainly isn't one now!! ha, ha, ha!

In any case, you are my hero when it comes to dealing with the ladies, even when you don't know their lingo.Cunning linguist, i couldnt sleep after reading this last nite. lol.. I hope she was the one you spent the remainder of your time with, lucky devil. She was so hot in her bikinis and clothing, i can only imagine her walking around in my favorite outfit (skin). I would have traded 4 or 5 of my (new haitian friends) for 1 long day of fun with her. Please tell me you have pics of that body.?

BadBear2000

09-23-09, 13:42

Marc Anthony

09-23-09, 16:39

If you like sweet chocolate with nookie that just does not get loose, you need to come to Haiti. Remember the girls that are tight for about the first 5 minutes and then you are afraid you may fall in. Well this will not happen here in Haiti. It seems to get tighter as you go. Maybe I am being a little to verbal but you have to come to Haiti to see for yourself.In the DR, Haitian girls have the reputation of having "Cocomordan" which I think might be loosely translated as pussy control. What's the story from the homeland?

BadBear2000

09-23-09, 23:21

I don't know what you call it but they can definitely work that thang

In the DR, Haitian girls have the reputation of having "Cocomordan" which I think might be loosely translated as pussy control. What's the story from the homeland?

BadBear2000

09-28-09, 13:54

And all through the pool, not a girl was stirring-------------Wait, wrong story.

Was minutes before the pool party and the pool was empty when BadBear went trolling and returned with a car full. And in minutes, the pool was stocked and ready for fishing. Kinda like shooting fish in a barrel.

Getrhythm

09-29-09, 22:54

With the website currently down, would be curious to know the room rates and what is included within that rate for the Haiti House. Considering a late October five-night trip. A bit confused at the moment if its some kind of all-inclusive set-up or not.

Adinga

09-30-09, 23:37

Has the Crime rate decreased at all ?

Have always wanted to go but the crime reports held me back -- The fact that Im a pasty gringo wont help either.

Cunning Linguist

10-01-09, 10:31

Has the Crime rate decreased at all ?

Have always wanted to go but the crime reports held me back -- The fact that Im a pasty gringo wont help either.

I myself was quite worried about that but Badbear and co. will look out for you. Of course, you can't go lurking around in dark streets at night, along, with a lot of bling and an expensive video camera and a diamond-encrusted Rolex on (not many places where you can, to be sure). However, if you stick around them, there is no problem. Hell, I even went through infamous Cité Soleil a bit with Badbear and no problem. In fact, the people there even apologized for a truck stopping in front of us, picking up a mountain of garbage. Badbear and his friends know the score, they have the street smarts and Haiti House is quite safe in its own right.
Badbear will even pick you up at the airport. You can beat that. Even a pasty, relatively well-dressed pasty blanc like me "survived" the streets with Badbear. No problem.

BadBear2000

10-02-09, 13:20

The sight will be up again. The problem we had was we put videos on Utube and people jumped to our sight and we did not like what they were saying. We will be bringing it up again soon with a different name of course but believe me the Haiti House is still up and running.

Hello Bad Bear, the site www.haitihouse.com is not working.

Do you have a new site right now?

I am waiting for your new pics.

BadBear2000

10-02-09, 13:28

details and pricing
we are trying to keep the prices as low as possible. we have decided that it would be a pain in the ass to follow everyone around and their girl counting the number of beers and cokes they drink. we are figuring the following and hope we can survive with the price. free pick up and return to the airport or bus terminal, sunday barbarcue, which is great, a couple of 6 packs of beer, all the cokes you can drink, free breakfast, free late afternooon dinner, high speed internet with good magic jack operation, a provided net2phone with u.s. number, directv coming soon in each room, directv with
nfl ticket in the living room, in house laundry, and introduction to lots of hot babes. $130 per day. did i mention a pool full of nookie. i* just hope we can maintain this price. food in restaurants are very expensive and the service is slow. because of abuse we are now having to charge for breakfast and dinner for any girl you may have that eats here. breakfast will be $5 and dinner $10. we recommend snacks from the local market for night time since we have been forced to lock the kitchen down after dinner. i want furnish alcohol other than beer because people prefer different things. we do have a u.s number that any of you may use. these prices include a lot of extras that you wind up spending at a lot higher rate. even though expenses in haiti are high, the nookie is not.

however, i do want to make it very clear. we are not pimps. we do not charge you or make the girls give us a fee if you happen to get lucky. some of the girls we introduce are actually looking for a full time husband or a part time boy friend that will visit them often. i think ayyyypapi describes haiti as good as anyone can. it is just raw sex. no stops

with the website currently down, would be curious to know the room rates and what is included within that rate for the haiti house. considering a late october five-night trip. a bit confused at the moment if its some kind of all-inclusive set-up or not.

Getrhythm

10-05-09, 04:06

Bad Bear,

Thanks, appreciate the info. Waiting to see if Spirit is going to offer any more of their $9 specials for the time frame of my birthday this month (10/23), then will probably pull the trigger on a trip. I'm a vet of four trips to the Dominican Republic, but this would be my first time in Haiti. Do you have a personal email you can be contacted at for reservations?

Thanks!

BadBear2000

10-06-09, 00:32

Trust me, I feel more secure roaming the streets of Petionville at night than I would in most major cities in the U.S. I just had a gentleman here from The DC area who went out walking and got back around 1:00AM. His only fear was he may get lost because he was rather intoxicated but he never feared the locals. IF security is the only thing keeping you from coming to Haiti, then pack your bags and come sample our sweet chocolate.

Arainmain

10-06-09, 15:04

I recently visited the Haiti House, for a week end. Services and ambiance is as described. Homa made, and personal. I have experienced Haiti many times before and speak the language, but still was good to have this place. Might very well return, as I have to ensure that #5 tigth and firm ass cousin work some more for the dvd player she needs.

BadBear2000

10-11-09, 19:44

Gentlemen, if you are planning a November or December visit to the Haiti House, you better start making reservations. I have many inquiring but have not confirmed. We will have turkey on thanksgiving and I plan to have Santa put some nice candy in you stockings and your nuts in some nice hotties. We probably will not build snow men or have snow ball fights. Just throw a few hot babes in the pool.

Alew217

10-13-09, 04:26

Hey BadBear I am planning 2 or 3 weeks there in Dec but I am thinking of going to Santo Domingo for my last week. Is there an airline that flies from Haiti to SDQ ?? I am not real thrilled about flying some small airline because of safety. I have read that the bus is 6 hrs unless there is troble at the border?? I need advice.

Thanks Larry

Gentlemen, if you are planning a November or December visit to the Haiti House, you better start making reservations. I have many inquiring but have not confirmed. We will have turkey on thanksgiving and I plan to have Santa put some nice candy in you stockings and your nuts in some nice hotties. We probably will not build snow men or have snow ball fights. Just throw a few hot babes in the pool.

Miami Ab

10-13-09, 20:30

Hey BadBear I am planning 2 or 3 weeks there in Dec but I am thinking of going to Santo Domingo for my last week. Is there an airline that flies from Haiti to SDQ ?? I am not real thrilled about flying some small airline because of safety. I have read that the bus is 6 hrs unless there is troble at the border?? I need advice.

Thanks LarryLarry,

There's 2 regular airlines that goes to Santo Domingo on a daily basis.

Tortug Air and Carib Air.

Carib Air has a 30 seat plane and it's somewhat bigger than the one Tortug Air uses.

I am not expert on planes and I am not afraid of flying, but I always feel safer in that Carib Air bigger plane.

If you need more info let me know

BadBear2000

10-14-09, 02:48

I just returned today from the DR where I carried my 5th wife off to start school. I am going to miss that babe at least until she comes home in December or decides she loves MR HAPPY too much to stay away.

The bus ride is long but for the first time it will be interesting. There are 3 airlines. Ayyyypapi has flown Tortug many times and seems pleased with it. One of his hot Dominican friends followed him and his other hottie on the other airline Caribeair.
There is also PA WA which flies M-W-F

The one way flight is $125 while the one way bus is $70

Just a word of advice. I just had a guy come was going to spend a few days here and then go to the DR. He had purchased his ticket that way. He decided to hang here up until the last chance he had to catch his flight out of the DR.

As I was getting into the DR I noticed the girls. They are not the same as the babes I remember back in the 80s and 90s. They are fat. Very few are hotties like they use to be. It made me feel sick. Today when I came back to Haiti and I saw hottie after hottie I was glad to be home

Hey BadBear I am planning 2 or 3 weeks there in Dec but I am thinking of going to Santo Domingo for my last week. Is there an airline that flies from Haiti to SDQ ?? I am not real thrilled about flying some small airline because of safety. I have read that the bus is 6 hrs unless there is troble at the border?? I need advice.

Thanks Larry

WickedRebel

10-14-09, 05:03

I have been reading an lurking on the site for a while and thanks to bb's pictures an reports. I want to make a trip haiti, but is it possible to find girls who shave there pits? I don't mind the bush but arm pit hair bothers me, or is this an unheard of for the women there?

BadBear2000

10-14-09, 10:40

My little dancer has her armpits shaved and she trims her pussy just the way I like it. Some guys here keep razors handy for just that. Many of them like to shave the girls pussys too but I like a little bush down there. I don't want to feel like I am screwing a little girl.

I have been reading an lurking on the site for a while and thanks to bb's pictures an reports. I want to make a trip haiti, but is it possible to find girls who shave there pits? I don't mind the bush but arm pit hair bothers me, or is this an unheard of for the women there?

Member #4351

10-14-09, 15:04

I suggest you get complete flight information from the D.R. to PAP and post it. For example, are all flights to and from Santo Domingo? Probably a lot of guys would want to hedge their bets...

WickedRebel

10-15-09, 04:20

My little dancer has her armpits shaved and she trims her pussy just the way I like it. Some guys here keep razors handy for just that. Many of them like to shave the girls pussys too but I like a little bush down there. I don't want to feel like I am screwing a little girl.bb2k thanks for the reply but do they get offended if you ask them to? i love the dark skinned girls i have dated several in the states but i don't know what the customs are there.

BadBear2000

10-15-09, 13:24

No, they don't get offended. Most of them will even let you do it. My friend SJ better known as SUPER JEW takes his buzzer around with him all the time just in case. Haitian girls are not easily offended. I am telling you, they are the greatest women in the world and just to the let the mongers know that are lining up in the DR to get my little dancer, she is cumming home tomorrow. She decided it is better to go to school her and have MR HAPPY every night than to go to school in DR and sleep alone at night. I guess that is hopeful thinking but makes me feel good to think that way.

bb2k thanks for the reply but do they get offended if you ask them to? i love the dark skinned girls i have dated several in the states but i don't know what the customs are there.

BadBear2000

10-15-09, 22:31

Beg him to post some of the hot videos he took at out pool parties where the hotties are shaking their booties to no end. He can post them on utube and give you the link.

BadBear2000

10-15-09, 22:33

Just got this email from a guy thought it would be good for you to hear. Most American married couples prefer doggie style. This is where the man begs and woman rolls over and plays dead. Come to Haiti where you don't have to beg and you may be the one that rolls over a plays dead after several hours.

Horny B

10-15-09, 23:52

I usually don't post on the boards except to answer questions that could help other members of the board, to help them in their Hobbying interrogations.

However alway's thaught that Bad Bear was kinda preaching for his business by stating that you could find a pussy as fast as a wink.

Well arrived in Port au Prince at 3h15, local time. By the time I got out of the Custom at the Airport 3h45. Downtown Port au Prince 4h15, found my dream girl 4h30, invitation to dinner and? 4h32. I GUESS Bad Bear was right...

More to follow during the next week.

Boys Noise

10-16-09, 09:47

Hi guys,

Haiti seems to be nice destination for sure.

But I was wondering what your expierences are with the communication to the girls. From what I learned most people on Haiti don't really speak english.

Now from my times in Thailand I know that it can be quiet annoying if there is basically no real communication excapt the name and age exchange.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies at all?

Cheers,

Boys Noise

Boys Noise

10-16-09, 12:39

BadBear2000

10-16-09, 14:23

Ask Horny B about the 2 babes with Ayyyypapi

I usually don't post on the boards except to answer questions that could help other members of the board, to help them in their Hobbying interrogations.

However alway's thaught that Bad Bear was kinda preaching for his business by stating that you could find a pussy as fast as a wink.

Well arrived in Port au Prince at 3h15, local time. By the time I got out of the Custom at the Airport 3h45. Downtown Port au Prince 4h15, found my dream girl 4h30, invitation to dinner and? 4h32. I GUESS Bad Bear was right...

More to follow during the next week.

Cunning Linguist

10-16-09, 19:45

Hi guys,

Haiti definitely seems like a nice destination.

Yet I was wondering what your expierences are with the communication to the girls. From what I learned most people on Haiti don't really speak english.

From my times in Thailand I know that it can be quiet annoying if there is basically no real communication excapt the name and age exchange.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies?

Cheers,

Boys Noise

Of course, I am at an advantage here since I speak OK Thai and quite passable Creole. Normally they speak no English. I never had problems but Sawasdee, a gentleman who came to Haiti House spoke no languages at all but he did fine since he was good at everything else (knowing how to make the moves, etc.) Actually, if there are language problems, there are people there who will help you out. Sawasdee had an interesting method. He got his laptop, typed in a sentence in Google translate and had it translated into French. The girl's answer was typed in and duly translated into English. Of course, it is always best to have some command of the languaage spoken in the country you are visiting but few can actually do that.
In the end, Sawasdee got more action than me in spite of my language abilities. No, I am not that bad-looking and I have a fun and engaging personality I think but I am more shy than I should be.

Horny B

10-16-09, 21:38

Arrived in Haïti, I was a little bit anxious to go trough Custom as I was bringing a DVD for Bad Bear. The Custom officer was so busy cruising a co-worker, that he just took my declaration sheet and put in on top of the pile not even bothering to tell me to go trough.

Bad Bear was waiting for me outside the Airport entrance, wasn't bothered much by the Taxi scout. As I speak decent french, told the Taxi scout that I had someone waiting for me outside. She wouldn't let go until she was sure that I wasn't B. S. Her, following me until I saw Bad Bear and shook hand with him. The advantage was that no other taxi-cab drivers bothered me event thought there was about 50 of them waiting to pick up customers.

Was a pleasure to finally meet the big guy. He wasn't too hard to spot, first by height and and Bad Bear baseball cap. I jumped in his Pussy Mobile, and wasn't ready for what was to follow.

Was kind of down about immediately going pussy hunting. Travel time, and the need for a good meal was more at the top of my list. But Bad Bear was adamant on showing me the lower and the the Upper pussy market. Couldn't believe what was there, I think that a kid on X-mas morning couldn't be more excited than I was, but then again wasn't ready to accept the proclaimed stop and go with a girl as stated in posting on this, board. I had given to BB the description of what the type of girl that I like.

He has a gift on spotting them way ahead faster then I could do it. Within less than 5 minutes he had spotted a first one that fitted the profile. But unfortunately we couldn't stop due to traffic. Was a bit deceived, but when you think that you have seen the best possible girls comes another one that even look better. Within a couple of minutes he already had spotted another one, looking even better than the first one. For me it was the moment of truth. Was he boasting all the way in his posting, in order to draw customers to his business? We stopped and after talking to the girls less then a minute, she was in the Pussy mobile. Had to pinch myself to make sure that I wasn't dreaming. I was completely zone out that such a body could be seating with us. Good thing that she was seated in the back cause my male hormones level were increasing by the seconds. Few minutes later we were at the Residence, eating a good meal.

Another guest proposed to do a Water basket ball, game. That opened a door to check if the bikini trick was working? (This trick posted on this board in a previous post) It stated that by offering a bikini to a girl, it made the adaptation a bit easier for the girl. Well, asked her if she wanted to go for a swim in the pool, she agreed and already she was stripping naked in front of me to get into her a bikini graciously lended to her by a girl who was at the residence.

We really had a good time, and the girls also seemed to enjoy rubbing against the male... Was hard to concentrate with 4 beautiful woman in the pool, even to the point that I accidentally passed the ball to the girls on the other team. Well shit happen. Then it was time for my desert that I didn't take at supper. We started with a shower, then in the bed for additional exercise. I am not the type to give play by play description but can tell you that those Haitian girls know how to move their hip.

Being an older gentleman, enjoying time with those younger chicks, bring me 30 years back. Well I always say about my hobby, if I die from a heart attack while practicing it. I will die with a huge smile of satisfaction on my face.

For those who are wandering what was the final cost. She didn't had a cell phone, so Bad Bear brought us to the local Cell phone store. Bought her cell of my choice, which cost me 1, 800.00 Gourdes, which is about $35.00 US. Other advantage is that I know how to reach her. After we brought her back to her place and seemed quite happy with her evening. She made sure to ask that I call her later, during my stay.

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Boys Noise

10-16-09, 23:23

Yeah thx Cunning Linguist, thats what I thought. I know that its not a deal breaker for getting action, but still think its less fun. Thats why my next trip in november is probably gonna be ghana eventhough I d have loved to visit Haiti. The girls seem to be gorgous.

Sawassdee

10-19-09, 16:32

Hi guys,

Haiti definitely seems like a nice destination.

Yet I was wondering what your expierences are with the communication to the girls. From what I learned most people on Haiti don't really speak english.

From my times in Thailand I know that it can be quiet annoying if there is basically no real communication excapt the name and age exchange.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies?

Cheers,

Boys NoiseI don't know if you read my report but I shared that same dicatome in the beginning of my plans. I realised in my report there was a discrepancy after I posted it. The discrepancy was the cost of flying to ghana, it was not 1500 but 2500 us. I implore you to try haiti on for size. I speak no french or creo as cunning liguist stated, only english and broken spanish (and I do mean broken). You will save literally thousands of dollars by going to haiti and get laid ridiculously without any knowledge skills. If you want to sight see africa wins hands down but for fun with light to extremely darkskinned girls only haiti witout a doubt. I love to hear them moan and speak french while in the throws of passions. Youll see honestly that you don't have to pay 90 + percent of the girls there. You will truly do it just to get rid of them, once you pleasure them they never want to go home. Imagine that, you have to hideout, threaten them with a gun (they may take the beating and stay) or pay them to leave you penis alone. Honestly and I am not the most handsome guy. Get laid from day one and every day while partying with great guys like Badbear, Aaypapi and other fellow mongers from this site. Good luck with your decision.

Elmerfud

10-20-09, 02:45

Hi guys,

Haiti definitely seems like a nice destination.

So how is it there? Are most of you speaking french or do you just not care to talk to the ladies?

Cheers,

Boys NoiseHaiti is french speaking as it is a french former colony, they will communicate with you in french if you are speaking french but only the well educated people will know how to speak english, haitian communicating between themself will speak creole wich is a extremly broken french wich does not even sound something close to the french language.

Charles Pooter

10-20-09, 17:30

I would add that many Haitians (those who did not receive further schooling) only know basic French.

Also that you are a bit hard on Kreyol which is a language in its own right and not a dialect of French although the vocubulary is 95% derived from French. The grammar is part French and part West African.

That may sound a petty quibble, but for centuries the denigration of the Kreyol langauge (by calling it corrupted French) has been an important factor in suppressing the general population and keeping power and wealth in the hands of a tiny French-speaking minority.

Haiti is french speaking as it is a french former colony, they will communicate with you in french if you are speaking french but only the well educated people will know how to speak english, haitian communicating between themself will speak creole wich is a extremly broken french wich does not even sound something close to the french language.

BadBear2000

10-21-09, 04:06

I have a 76 year old friend that has been in Haiti many years and he does not speak a word of Kreole or French and he gets more nookie than you can shake a stick at.

I don't know if you read my report but I shared that same dicatome in the beginning of my plans. I realised in my report there was a discrepancy after I posted it. The discrepancy was the cost of flying to ghana, it was not 1500 but 2500 us. I implore you to try haiti on for size. I speak no french or creo as cunning liguist stated, only english and broken spanish (and I do mean broken). You will save literally thousands of dollars by going to haiti and get laid ridiculously without any knowledge skills. If you want to sight see africa wins hands down but for fun with light to extremely darkskinned girls only haiti witout a doubt. I love to hear them moan and speak french while in the throws of passions. Youll see honestly that you don't have to pay 90 + percent of the girls there. You will truly do it just to get rid of them, once you pleasure them they never want to go home. Imagine that, you have to hideout, threaten them with a gun (they may take the beating and stay) or pay them to leave you penis alone. Honestly and I am not the most handsome guy. Get laid from day one and every day while partying with great guys like Badbear, Aaypapi and other fellow mongers from this site. Good luck with your decision.

Cunning Linguist

10-21-09, 10:35

Haiti is french speaking as it is a french former colony, they will communicate with you in french if you are speaking french but only the well educated people will know how to speak english, haitian communicating between themself will speak creole wich is a extremly broken french wich does not even sound something close to the french language.
I would respectfully request that Mr. Fud look into things that he knows little about.
First of all, Haiti is not a French-speaking nation in the same way France and Quebec are. Some statistics say that only 15% of Haiti actually speak French. However, the elite only uses French in its business. This has always been the case and has been used to disenfranchise the rest of the population. Charles Pooter is spot on in his comment on the matter. Many understand basic French, at least enough to watch soap operas but cannot express themselves in it. There are some who are working to get Creole to be a normalized, standardized language so that the great majority of Haitians will have access to government.

Secondly, Creole is not a broken French. Mr. Fud should google "creole languages " if he is so inclined to know what they exactly are. The process is far more complex than just mangling a language up

Although 95% of the vocabulary is derived from French, the grammar is wholly different. In many ways, it is quite similar in structure to languages spoken in West Africa. The French do not understand Creole in the way that Spanish speakers can understand Portuguese or Italian or that Swedes can understand Danish and Norwegian. Many Haitians, the vast majority, do not understand French very well and certainly can't speak it.

An example of French and Creole:

Mwen genyen dè chwal
J'ai deux chevaux
I see two horses

Mwen vwe ou achte liv yo
Je vois les livres que vous avez acheté
I see the books that you have bought

I won't go into a detailed linguistic analysis but suffice it to say that they are birds of a very different feather. I respectfully invite Mr. Fud to look into this before he spouts off groundless, uninformed opinions.

In any case, the girls do appreciate it if you can at least say some things in Creole. It shows that you have respect for their often denigrated culture. You can check into my posts where I have posted some words and phrases in Creole.
Peace.

Miami Ab

10-21-09, 18:04

There is also PA WA which flies M-W-FPAWA goes to the main airport SDQ (Las Americas)

Tortug Air and Caribair goes to La Isabela airport which is closer to the city than SDQ.

Horny B

10-25-09, 22:28

As some of you may know, Bad Bear wife #5 is a dancer and choreographer
( not the other kind dirty minds) I order to keep Bad Bear young, she has convinced him to start doing some dance move. I must admit that I couldn't
take more than the following short clip that follow. Anyway he has to begin somewhere, and his natural instinct drove him to pole dance. His style should improve with time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvR1dsemBLM

Bad Bear, sorry for letting this one out, but I couln't resist.

BadBear2000

10-25-09, 22:48

You really took my bad side and I didn't even have my cap on.

As some of you may know, Bad Bear wife #5 is a dancer and choreographer
( not the other kind dirty minds) I order to keep Bad Bear young, she has convinced him to start doing some dance move. I must admit that I couldn't
take more than the following short clip that follow. Anyway he has to begin somewhere, and his natural instinct drove him to pole dance. His style should improve with time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvR1dsemBLM

Bad Bear, sorry for letting this one out, but I couln't resist.

Horny B

10-26-09, 00:33

Unfortunately all good things must come to an end. It was with some regrets that I was leaving Bad Bear place on Wednesday afternoon. Here are my afterthought looking back on my trip to Haiti.

About 3 times I went for a walk on the main street which is about 100 yards from Bad Bear place. These were in the afternoon, did I felt intimidated ? Not a single time, the only awkward thing for me was the fact it was now me that was a visible minority. ( No racism intended here) I have seen only one white person during those walk and honestly I didn't felt like exchanging with him. Although I lurked at the side streets, I avoided them as common sense told me not to run after problems. Why did I didn't felt threatened, first as stated I stayed on the main street at all times, for about over an hour each times that I was taking my walk. As I had travelled that street with Bad Bear, I knew the places were there was armed guards, they are everywhere, in Bank parking, Grocery store parking but frankly I shouldn't even raise that issue, as it would had been a real last resort move that didn't even came near of happening. Above that you see on a regular interval either the U.N. Trucks or local police patrolling and the one who are doing traffic. This is a main street and is heavily used, not much traffic lights, so they replaced them by traffic cops.

If you use common sense I don't see anything happening to you. I was bothered only one time by a teenager, just ignored him, continued my walk with no problem. Those who have visited Sosua in the Dominican Republic, will tell you that if you take a walk, somebody, will bother you every 100 yards, to sell you their junk, for dollar exchange, offer you to bring you to your destination by motoconcho, sell you drug or ladies offering your a massage. I wasn't bothered by none of the above.

Little tip: During my early Sunday walk, I was able to get my hand on cheap Creole book, sold on the side of the street, these must have been previously used to teach to the kids in school. I really had a good time later that day with two of the girls as they love it that you try to learn their language, I had them around me helping me make translation of the words that were in the book. Ended up finishing my homework that night with one of the two. Who said that doing homeworks couldn't be fun -:)

As for picking up Ladies, I have made it clear in my previous post on how easy it was, but what I didn't knew then were the well attended Sunday afternoon, Bad Bear BBQ. Also had the pleasure of meeting really cute and nice local girls there. Even have talk with a couple of them who had a very good English, have taken some phone numbers, unfortunately couldn't call back all of them due to my tight schedule, but I still have their phone number available for a future trip.

For those who have a cell phone with SIM card, I would recommend that you go buy a local one at the local cell phone store. It will cost you less than $10.00 and consider it as a good investment. I am not bragging here when I say that some evening while being with a girl I had to shut my phone, in order to avoid being bothered. For the others you can buy a cheap local cell phone for about $35.00 Reception was never a problem as there is a Cell phone tower just on the other side of the street of Big Bear place.

What I missed not doing, was renting a 4 W.D. Vehicule, either for cruising or going to the beach, I wouldn't drive in the Dominican Republic, but would take my chances in Haiti, avoiding the high traffic times of the day. I stated cruising not that I absolutely needed a vehicle to do so, as Bad Bear had often stated to me that if I wanted to go for a pussy ride, he was available at any times. But taking care of such a place take some of his time and I also wanted to make sure that he also had his happy time with his wife # 5. So for the rental will be for another trip.

The personal was attentive to my needs, as I had eaten early one morning, and until dinner time come later that day, Bad Bear who had errands to do, instructed the afternoon cook to check with me if I was hungry? So there is a knock at the door, and the Cook who's trying her best to learn her English ask me “ Are you Ugly? To which I swiftly replied, Yes Sweetheart I'm butt Ugly, but I still like myselve” The poor Girl didn't knew were to go from there, but having understood the meaning of her request, I told her that I could wait until dinner and thanked her for taking the time to check.

Overall, nothing being perfect I would easily give an 8+ for satisfaction, regarding that trip and for my stay at Big Bear place. And yes, for sure I'm looking forward to go back sometimes next year.

Blue Vette

10-27-09, 01:00

Well, I booked my flight to BadBear's place for mid-December. Will be my first trip to Haiti. Really looking forward to it!

BadBear2000

10-27-09, 14:53

And they call it Haiti. Guys if you love sweet chocolate and you come to Haiti, you will swear you have gone to Heaven. I have a video of my honey taking a shower. Send me a PM with your email address or if you have been able to pick up my email on my earlier posts, just title is Video Request. I cannot post this on utube, mytube, or any other tube but I can send it direct.

BadBear2000

10-28-09, 09:09

The video is too large for normal email so we are fixing it so I can send you a link.

And they call it Haiti. Guys if you love sweet chocolate and you come to Haiti, you will swear you have gone to Heaven. I have a video of my honey taking a shower. Send me a PM with your email address or if you have been able to pick up my email on my earlier posts, just title is Video Request. I cannot post this on utube, mytube, or any other tube but I can send it direct.

Pro Am

10-28-09, 20:50

The video is too large for normal email so we are fixing it so I can send you a link.Just downloaded the video. Very nice BadBear! Looking forward to coming down soon.

Blue Vette

10-29-09, 23:54

The video is too large for normal email so we are fixing it so I can send you a link.I have to agree with ProAm. Very nice video BigBear. Thanks for taking the time to share it! Can't wait to get over there!

Blue Vette

10-31-09, 00:20

Anyone know any good websites or forums (besides this one) that specialize in pics/videos of Haitian Women or that touch on mongering in Haiti?

Mr Well

10-31-09, 13:00

How to get to/from Puerto Plata to Port Au Prince?

Easy and safe?

BadBear2000

10-31-09, 16:35

Our website will be back up soon. We may have to put a small charge on it just to keep the do-righters off.

Anyone know any good websites or forums (besides this one) that specialize in pics/videos of Haitian Women or that touch on mongering in Haiti?

BadBear2000

10-31-09, 16:41

You can take a bus from Puerto Plata to Santo Domingo. If you decide to stay at Boca Chica one night, you can fly pawa air out of the main airport on M-W-F around 5PM to Haiti. If you go on in to the Capital, you can catch a dailey flight to Haiti on Tortug air around 8AM or 4PM dailey or Caribeair. This will cost about $125. You can also catch 3 different buslines from SD which are Capital Bus Lines, Caribetour, and Tera Busline. Caribetour and Tera come strainght to Petionville and is only 5 minutes from the Haiti House. This trip will take about 6 hours and for a new comer will be interesting. Just bring a book or sleep on the way as the buses are comfortable.

How to get to/from Puerto Plata to Port Au Prince?

Easy and safe?

Sanchi Panki

10-31-09, 17:47

Sorry just to correct the airline is Air Caraibes.

I don't think Caribeair exists.

Blue Vette

10-31-09, 21:47

N
Our website will be back up soon. We may have to put a small charge on it just to keep the do-righters off.ladYlad to hear it.

Happy to pay a small charge for such a site.

BadBear2000

11-01-09, 01:29

You are correct. Thank you. Most our people have been flying Tortug Air

Sorry just to correct the airline is Air Caraibes.

I don't think Caribeair exists.

Horny B

11-01-09, 14:46

Sorry just to correct the airline is Air Caraibes.

I don't think Caribeair exists.

Big Bear was using the English pronouciation, but effectively the Airline being French their trade name is Caraïbe Air.

Checked the price between the 2 Airlines and for Air Caraïbe the cost of their
roundtrip ticket is between $302.00 and $330.00, while Tortug Air prices seems to be lower at $240.00, quite a difference in price.

Sanchi Panki

11-02-09, 12:26

I think fly from SD to PAP it's absolutely far to be bargain, price is too high for a so short trip, yes it's the most confortable, easy and fast solution but in my opinion the prices are usually exagerated, amybe you can find better price taking the ticket on the place at Las Americas paying in Rd$ can be cheaper. However flying Miami-Pap is usually cheaper.

BadBear2000

11-03-09, 02:30

It is the tax on both sides that make it ridiculous. That is why I always take the bus. You lose time but the trip is interesting and the bus is comfortable

I think fly from SD to PAP it's absolutely far to be bargain, price is too high for a so short trip, yes it's the most confortable, easy and fast solution but in my opinion the prices are usually exagerated, amybe you can find better price taking the ticket on the place at Las Americas paying in Rd$ can be cheaper. However flying Miami-Pap is usually cheaper.

Freddy Scuttle

11-03-09, 09:29

Hi BadBear2000,

You certainly seem to be having fun down there. I am going to be in Miami and would like to visit and stay with you guys. How is the 2nd. 9th June? I know it is a long way off, but I like to be prepared. Which airline would you recommend I fly down with from Miami?

BadBear2000

11-04-09, 04:03

The way the house is starting to fill up with future visitors, you should stake your place as soon as possible. Join the spirit airline $9 club and you may get a super deal. If not your best bet is probably American. Just let me know

Hi BadBear2000,

You certainly seem to be having fun down there. I am going to be in Miami and would like to visit and stay with you guys. How is the 2nd. 9th June? I know it is a long way off, but I like to be prepared. Which airline would you recommend I fly down with from Miami?

La Isla

11-04-09, 05:26

FYI:

I just checked and Delta is flying JFK to PAP direct for $380 roundtrip WITH all taxes included. Not bad at all.....

Spirit was over $400 and the flight schedule was nowhere near as good. American Airlines for the same dates was close to $500....

Freddy Scuttle

11-04-09, 05:35

Hi BadBear2000,

Flights booked and visit confirmed - $354 with AA is not bad. Arriving on 2nd June 2010 and leaving on the 9th. Looking forward to meeting you guys, let me know if I need to do anythiing else for you.

Charles Square

11-04-09, 15:37

To reach Haiti I flew to SD, overnight, and took the bus from Caribe Tours to Port Au Prince. The bus leaves most days at 11 ampaid $ 75 return. You can buy tickets before the actual leaving date. You also need to pay $26 plus 1000 pesos the day of departure and show your passport, even though I managed to do without. When you return from PAP you pay 28$ plus some Gourdes. Left SD and took me 9 hours to reach PAP because of some accidents and heavy traffic in Haiti. At the border they will stamp your passport at both ends and check your luggage at the haitian border. We had to go back to the haitian office because the guys stamped 28 of September instead of 28 of October. Can you believe it? There are some children beggars various vendors and money changers. You can change in PAP but if you are stuck you can use the money changers, just look out for the guys with a photo ID they seem to be authorized. Bring a calculator with you, I changed on the way back anf I figured the guy made an honest commission, in other words I was not ripped off.

Be prepared for a culture shock when you drive into PAP

To be continued.

Charles Square

11-04-09, 19:11

There are thousands of people swarming the streets, there are vendors everywhere selling everything, the diesel engines blacken the air and pollution is heavy. Street lights are lacking, roads are in a bad state and buildings are lookin sorry and dilapidated. Drivers are left to their own devices, they make the rules even though I noticed police on patrol.

Well, a late as I was BadBear was waiting for me, 3 hours of waiting. What a relief jumping in his car and driving off! He took me to his house in a quiet and safe area of Petionville which is the upscale spot of PAP. I met his staff, his wife, and her female guests. After dinner we went 'trollin' haitian word for prowling the street looking for women. We met Fabiola who flagged us down. I wasn; t sure she was a pro but I took her anyway. The girl was OK but after a while I got tired of her and sent her home. I gave her $15 after she asked me for $100 and off she went.

The following day we changed money and bought some food, the clerk gave me 4175 gourdes for $100.

Same night trollin again and ended up picking another pro because I liked her a lot. She was looking young fresh with a nice dress on. In the sack she was a bit inexperienced so after a while I got bored and sent her home with 1000 gourdes plus moto money 25 gourdes.

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Charles Square

11-05-09, 04:06

Next day I spent time in a brand new gym, shopping for food, watchin direct tv and the same night BB took me to a night spot together with his wife and friends. On the way back home the wife says we want to come trollin too. So I, BB and 3 girls in the back stopped by some girls and they picked a nice petite girl and asked her if she wants to come home with me. I didn; t know where to put my face. So eventually I took this girl and she was hot and makin sexy sounds in creole. You know when they enjoy I enjoy it. Then after a while she started complaining I was taking too long so I sent her home 1000 gourdes plus moto money 30 gourdes.

Following day daytime trollin. Bad Bear spots a cutie walking up a street so he gives chase with the car, stops right in the middle of the road and, among 300 people around us, calls up this girl in creole, she stops and come over and BB ask where 'y' goin-well, I am goin home-home where-down the street-can I take you?. Yes thank you- there she hops in the car!

An adorable looking young girl. She gave us the cell number and promise to come over to HH for the barbecue. Her name is Taina. The same night hunting there is this small girl, Misha, lookin for business: she has a tight body, a megawatt smile and tries to charge me $50. We start laughing and she laugh too. I like her a lot so I take her. This girl fits me just right, no rush, clean, lean like a gazelle and she's really into it. It has been a long time I have done an unshaven girl but I didn; t bother me one bit. So far they were all unshaven-armpits, pussies and legs-

Raw and back to nature.

Well I have a good time with Misha she leaves in the middle of the night with 1600 gourdes. I could have paid less but I didn't want to.

To be continued

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Charles Square

11-05-09, 04:36

It is Sunday and barbecue day so BB is busy buying supplies. Taina comes with Fedora who is just as hot as her, we eat and drink and those two girls are looking for boyfriends but I don't have time so they say when I come back I can have both of them. I did not ask if together or one after another. Anyway just to tell you that those non pro girls dig guys like us.

The same night I am without date so BB fires the engine and off we go. We see 2 girls strollin and BB ask me not to talk about money. He was right. Those girls just have nothing to do so they jump in the car and off to the house, we have drinks and start chatting. The girls speak decent english and ask how they can go back home. I answer you don't have to, you can sleep here and leave in the morning. I did not expect them to stay. I show them the room and they start watching Tv and getting comfortable. Meanwhile I take a shower and when I come back the girls are in bed but not naked. I focus on the one who gives the best vibes, Beatrice and leave the other Cassandra. After 30 minutes of fun courtshio finally Beatrice gives it up. Cassandra meanwhile pretend to sleep on the other side of the bed. I find that erotic what to do you have to enjoy the small things.

This is the only time I had TLC in haiti. Beatrice was warm affectionate and passionate. They asked me for moto money so I gave them 1000 gourdes but I could have given them 200 and it would not have mattered.

And so my 5 days in Haiti came to an end.

When you come to haiti you'll definitely monger like no other place because BB will do things you'll be amazed at. I could have bargained hard with the girls and spend over all not more than $60 but I did not have the heart.

Plan on spending more than a week so you will enjoy more time with non pro girls. Bring a camera, the haitian love pictures and videos!

Bring a sense of adventure.

PAP is not a dangerous pace if you know how to move.

Stick with BB and you are guaranteed to have fun, he is more haitian than some local people and knows his territory intimately, let him show you the real haiti those people work hard and hustle and sweat and all we hear and see coming from haiti is just the bad news.

So, come to Haiti but not just for the girls!

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Sanchi Panki

11-05-09, 13:29

I want to wish all the best and all the luck to BB and his activity, it'a a great thing and a great job. I hope one day to can afford the expense to pass some days at HH.

Cheers

ButtLover

11-05-09, 21:10

Hi
I have been "fucking around" in over 60 countries, but I think that the Haiti babes I have seen at the forum belongs to the absolute sexiest in the world !!
One thing that makes them so sexy is that they seem to be very natural and have a face a bit of natives, I hope i can visit Haiti at the end of next year.
Mongers keep going to Haiti !!!

Best Regards
Buttlover

Marc Anthony

11-06-09, 14:46

Great stuff. Excellent reports and the hottest Youtube video I have ever seen. That girl is amazing.

Blue Vette

11-08-09, 21:32

Those rules seem perfectly reasonable BB.

I am counting down the days to my visit in December!

Sawassdee

11-09-09, 19:57

As you guys Know from my report I spent 14 days at the haiti house. I hope that this post will clear a few things up.

1. I posted that the price at the time I was there was way too low from my own observation of the physical operation and way below the service recieved. Now, if you stay for example 200 days you will pay $130 x 200 days = $$ 26, 000. The price set at my stay was $100 a day and $10-$20 less than that for any stay over a week depending on the room you desired. AND originally before my stay it was less than those figures and included food per the original post. Gentlemen BB2K had just opened this place and ran the figures unknowingly of the X cost. The girls hanging out!

Personally I love having the women non. Pros especially hanging out and down for whatever, but I witness all of them daily eating more than a small countrys worth of food 2-3 times per day and drinking (beer, coke, bottled water, whiskey, tequila)more than a couple of whales plus going home with it for their families. Running thru towels and causing more work ex. Laundry (bikinis, towels, bed sheets), cooking and shopping, Power (all night parties (w music, tv's and additional lighting) and Water bills (pool maitenence almost daily (open and extremely jumping every night), damages to items (always something damaged during a party.

I see two great guys and good friends having a strained relationship over the original and no longer acceptible cost which dosent cut it due to the x factor. Money frustrations really affect mens psyche as we all know. Hell it will make you impotent.

2. The Haiti house is a tropical set up and IMHO doesn't require screens. I had 0 problems with mosquitos. The mansion is as nice or even better than my apts in Rio and better than the hotels in Thailand.

3. Found only one brothel the one Ayyypapi mentioned, and no stay away from it, but hell who needed it once youve met some girls their. They will bug the hell out of you anyway. You will have more gfe experiences IMHO here than quickies so its a matter of hitting the troll daily for new stuff while juggling the old stuff and don't invite the old stuff to the pool parties (way more fun working the new stuff).

4. Cost of Girls is what you make it. Nil is a great figure for them. They play in a pool are provided bikinis, food, drink, tv, music all in the mansion and you take them on the town if you want to. You might give them 30 gourdes for the taxi home your choice. Only a small percentage- The semi and pros asked for money, the others asked for nothing and were content just being there. So you don't have to pay the majority of them. I personally like to kick these types of girls a little something to keep them on my whimsical schedule. If the night yeilds nothing I call one I want to see and say catch a taxi here now! And I know they have enough to get there and pleasure me. So its really up to you.

5. Any time you can get out on the town take it and see haiti. I met the most goregous girl of my stay while heading out with badbear to get info on his job contracts. And she spoke english.

This seperation is unfortunate for all of us. We enjoyed the dynamic duos work and it was the finest.

Overall BB2k Haiti house is a grand place to have a ball (or give a couple) while saving money on extra rich chocolate nookie. And I will be back! Ayyypapi is one hell of a great guy to monger with hope you have the experience and I look forward to catching up with him soon.

Have fun Travel and be well.

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BadBear2000

11-10-09, 01:17

If any of you make reservations at the Haiti House and after one night wants to go to a hotel, they are free to do so. I certainly would not want to try and hold anyone up by making them pay for something they do not like. I am betting that will never happen. I will pick you up at the airport. I will take you to any hotel of your choice. I will even take you to the airport at your time of departure at no charge. Since everyone that has come has been well pleased I do not find that a real gamble. Some have come with the intention of spending 1/2 their time here and the other 1/2 in the Dominican Republic but decided to stay until they just made it to the DR in time to catch their flight.

BadBear2000

11-10-09, 02:01

It is my job to make certain that all you mongers get the most nookie and enjoy yourself at the lowest possible price. Now i realize that some of you guys do not have to worry about money but there are some mongers that are not so fortunate.
Yes, I do drive the guys around if they ask. I have never charged any visitor. However, all my visitors pay a premium for their room and extras. I do offer a very pretty girl that speaks very good English to drive them around and take them to clubs at night. She will even take them trolling and talk to the girls for the mongers. She has been getting $20 US for this but if you want to know the true by the time she spends 3 or 4 hours, count the wear and tear on her car, and the gas she burns it is not enough but she never complains. This was the price that Ayyyypapi kinda created for her when he started using her services. I did just take 2 guys out to the beach this past Saturday and I charged them 1000 gourdes each. It was an hour and a half both ways. The 2000 gourdes covered the gas and we all agreed this could be a good over night stay. The local taxi would have charged at $100 US. You can rent a car if you want to take the chance of driving here. It will cost you over $100 a day and if you have an accident you may not be able to get on the plane back home without settling a court case. Ayyyypapi was going to drive my car one night but did not know how to drive a straight shift car. Now he will say the car was the reason but when my old girl friend's car was down, she drove them around in my car. She had no problems. And yes if you want to go to a gym there is a nice one near by and I will drive you. And yes if you want to go to a club I will take you without charging you. If I do not feel up to it again I will get my old girl friend to do it and believe me $20 is a lot less than the taxis will charge. Please feel free to ask me any questions you want. I will be posting a walk thru of house in the next few days. Also, if you want videos and pics of hotbabes, stay tuned to this site and Haiti House when it comes back up this next week.

BadBear2000

11-12-09, 03:20

Corpo

11-12-09, 14:14

We will be putting pics and walk thru videos of the Haiti House. There will also be many pics of hot babes and videos of them dancing around the pool. Some will be just hot babes and others will be pros. At the Haiti House we aim to please.BadBear,

I'm thinking of coming down Nov29-Dec2 (Sunday through Wed.)

Are these days of the week ok for trolling, disco, etc.

Based on what I read, I think it shouldn't be a problem.

BadBear2000

11-12-09, 15:59

We are planning a big dinner on Thanksgiving at the Haiti House. There will be hot babes, turkey with dressing, sweet potatoes, hot babes, pool party, beer, cokes, hot babes, rice & Beans, all kinds of veges, and did I mention Hot babes. If we do not have room, we will help you arrange a stay at a local hotel. We will charge $10 for the dinner unless you are a guest at the Haiti House. If you have a family, then spend it with them but if you don't come enjoy Thanksgiving the way it is meant to be enjoyed. With a hot babe under each arm.

Lorenzo

11-14-09, 06:15

Does anyone know if the Oloffson Hotel is girl friendly?

BadBear2000

11-14-09, 13:15

I don't think so but I do not know for sure. I will try and find out today

Does anyone know if the Oloffson Hotel is girl friendly?

BadBear2000

11-16-09, 05:58

We had 15 bikini clad babes blessing the pool today. Even though the water has been kinda chilly the last few days. Today they warmed it up. I will be posting pics tomorrow. that is if it is okay with all our members

Big Kev

11-16-09, 07:29

Ellington

11-16-09, 15:17

BadBear2000

11-18-09, 02:09

I have been told the Oloffson is girl friendly but nobody can confirm it. I think the only way you will find out is try it. Most guys go there for the shows they have and the dinners.

Does anyone know if the Oloffson Hotel is girl friendly?

Lorenzo

11-18-09, 03:03

I have been told the Oloffson is girl friendly but nobody can confirm it. I think the only way you will find out is try it. Most guys go there for the shows they have and the dinners.
Thanks for the information.

Arainmain

11-18-09, 16:57

I have been told the Oloffson is girl friendly but nobody can confirm it. I think the only way you will find out is try it. Most guys go there for the shows they have and the dinners. was there sometime a couple of years ago, during the RAM show I picked a couple of young ladies, while they were dancing, that ended in my room. No problem at all. In any case be discreet and if someone looks at you weirdly just ask "sak pase".

BadBear2000

11-24-09, 13:46

As we all know, If you have not made reservations early for the holidays, you will be paying a high price for them. This is why I am giving a special for the entire month of December and until the 8th of Jan. The nightly rates will be $100 which will cover the following:

Pickup and delivery to the airport
breakfast and lunch
beer and cokes
pool party on Sundays
wireless internet
in house laundry
private baths in every bedroom
introduction to the following: taxi drivers, tour guides, local restaurants, clubs, and how to get to these places if you do not want to wait for me.

BadBear2000

11-30-09, 01:36

I am going to have a contest. If some of you guys can come up with a better name than Haiti House let's hear it. If you can come up with a better name then I will change it and give that guy one free night at the now called Haiti House. The trick is, it cannot have the name Haiti in it. I will give this contest one week so next Sunday, Dec 6th at midnight I will announce the winner and the new name. But its got to be gooooood

Member #4351

11-30-09, 04:35

The Bear's Lair? Piece and Love? Bikinis and booty?

Reconnoiter

11-30-09, 11:02

I'm sure this group of people will be offended that you refused to change the name. Why? A slap in their face. I wonder if they will decide to visit during peak festivities.

Google this

Haitixchange index php viewthread 3277Whats odd is that if you read the Haitian Xchange forum

http://www.Haitixchange.com/ index.php/ forums/viewthread/ 3277/P84/#60077

A new concerned citizen named Concerned32 posted a link back to this forum with the text
"The website is back up. I've also found this guy advertising the house on a sex travelers website. He goes by the name of BadBear2000 and is trying to turn Haiti into another sex destination for old perverts. "Concerned32 is a newbie with one post on their forum, a post made on Nov 24, 2009.

Ayyyypapi, I'm interested in hearing what you think of this strange coincidence? Your words seem improbably prophetic? Perhaps you can share a stock tip?

Osanhopps

12-01-09, 00:43

Marc Anthony

12-01-09, 02:42

Ellington

12-01-09, 03:01

La Maison de L'ours

or just L'ours B&BThese two are my favourites so far. Building off these, how about, "Chez L'ours" or "Chez le Mauvais Ours."

Mick888

12-01-09, 03:04

Questions:

Are trolling fees included?

Does the free night include a free day?

Is the prize transferrable?

Does the prize include water and TP?

Is ice free?Now you're starting to be a bit of a goof about this. IMHO.

Marc Anthony

12-01-09, 03:21

Whats odd is that if you read the Haitian Xchange forum

http://www.Haitixchange.com/ index.php/ forums/viewthread/ 3277/P84/#60077

A new concerned citizen named Concerned32 posted a link back to this forum with the text Concerned32 is a newbie with one post on their forum, a post made on Nov 24, 2009.

Ayyyypapi, I'm interested in hearing what you think of this strange coincidence? Your words seem improbably prophetic? Perhaps you can share a stock tip?

They wouldn't have made that connection without having it directly posted by an ISG member.

Still it's an interesting forum. You will find knee jerk attacks and spontaneous responses to them by other members of that forum.

It would be interesting for BB or somebody associated with the house to join that forum and answer questions openly - especially cool if Kreyol could be answered in reasonably fluent Kreyol. The forum members seem to be mostly people living in the US who write very literate American English - I can't judge their Kreyol - but having spent a couple months corresponding with Haitians I see a lot of the same proverbs and idioms I pulled off of websites to garnish my efforts at it.

BadBear2000

12-01-09, 04:28

THE WAR IS OVER!

Sorry Jackson for shouting that but I think all the guys here would love to know that tonight Ayyyypapi and I made peace with each other. We plan to even spend Christmas together. Who knows, we may go trolling together again.
Amen
Do I hear another Amen

Member #4351

12-01-09, 04:43

....Amen....

Chocha Monger

12-01-09, 05:12

Myore Vega

12-01-09, 18:55

How about Cache Paradis (Hidden Paradise)? Since I don't speak french the order may have to be checked in case it should be Le paradis cache.

When you get off the main road turning down Delmas 64 it is as if everything changes.

The trees on each side of the street seem to reach for each other as if they are trying to meet and greet. They provide a canopy that shades the road causing an almost dreamlike state.

Or maybe I shouldn't have been drinking all day long while in Haiti.

Anyway, Cache Paradis (Hidden Paradise). I think there is supposed to be an accent over the "e" but I can't find that in my phone.

BadBear2000

12-01-09, 22:34

Introduce some of the hottest black babes in the world to lonely, old and young, rich and poor, and----------Oh well you get the idea. As Willy Nelson would say "On the Troll again, I just can't wait to get on the Troll again" And unlike Willy, I have not outlived My uuuuuhhh Mr. Happy. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.

Frannie

12-02-09, 00:55

BadBear2000

12-02-09, 02:23

I don't know. It is really not an add but a discussion about PAP but if Jackson wants to put it there. I have no problem.

Shouldn't these posts be in the Classified Ads section?

BadBear2000

12-03-09, 19:07

I appreciate all the names that were suggested and I know I was going to announce the winner on after Dec 6th but people requesting the sight be back up and running has forced me to pick the winner. There were several names I liked but would not really be practical for the house. I especially liked the house of the bear in Spainish. Casa de Oso and I remember that member so when he comes I may have to take him out for dinner one night. THE WINNER IS: CREOLE MANSION. Our website is back up at *************.com We have videos and pics coming.

Now, the winner knows who he is and I will announce that on Sunday night

I am going to have a contest. If some of you guys can come up with a better name than Haiti House let's hear it. If you can come up with a better name then I will change it and give that guy one free night at the now called Haiti House. The trick is, it cannot have the name Haiti in it. I will give this contest one week so next Sunday, Dec 6th at midnight I will announce the winner and the new name. But its got to be gooooood

Member #4351

12-03-09, 19:19

Not bad. Follows the original BsAs mansion, then medellin, etc. etc.

I appreciate all the names that were suggested and I know I was going to announce the winner on after Dec 6th but people requesting the sight be back up and running has forced me to pick the winner. There were several names I liked but would not really be practical for the house. I especially liked the house of the bear in Spainish. Casa de Oso and I remember that member so when he comes I may have to take him out for dinner one night. THE WINNER IS: CREOLE MANSION. Our website is back up at *************.com We have videos and pics coming.

Now, the winner knows who he is and I will announce that on Sunday night

Boobs Lover

12-06-09, 21:31

I have been following the Haiti thread with great interest, and I was happy to see that after years of inactivity more and more members are posting here. Probably like many others, I was a bit skeptical about the duo BadBear2000 and Ayyypapi – it just seemed there were two guys abusing the forum to promote their business. So when I was in the area recently I decided to visit the place and see for myself:

I arrived on a Sunday evening, a big house in a safe, yet central residential area in Port au Prince – security should not be an issue here. I had wanted to join the regular Sunday afternoon pool party, but as I arrived late, only 3 or 4 girls and some of BB2000s friends were still there. And I felt at home immediately. When I asked BB if there was anything to eat of if I could have something to drink, he just told me to go to the kitchen and take whatever I need. Girls were either in the pool or sitting around or dancing (sexxxxxy), but I didn't really know if they belonged to somebody already or if they were free. I spent my time drinking and talking to BB2000, and when I left he provided me with the phone number of one of the girls who had caught my attention. Gentlemen, I felt so relaxed and amongst friends that I even forgot to pay my beers and food, and BB2000 didn't even bother to remind me about my open bill. Really a nice and relaxed place. I also had a look at the famous Jacuzzi room, I don't know how much he charges for that, but it looks like you can have a lot of fun there.

The girl from the pool I then met next day for an afternoon session, and she has become a regular since – every time I got to PauP I just have to see her, I think I am addicted to her. No, not in love, but sexually addicted. She fucks like a champion. She sucked me dry. I have never ever ever had a blowjob like that before in my life, she was a sex maniac, unbelievable. If all girls at BBs pool parties are that hot maybe you should NOT go to visit his place, you will die of exhaustion.

So should you visit Creole Mansion? Definitely. Although picking up girls in Haiti is easy, if you have never been to Port au Prince before it might be a difficult place to get around, even for experienced mongers (plus, communication is a problem if you don't speak creole). So to have a nice, safe, clean base with a great host is definitely a good thing. And even if you don't stay at Creole Mansion for whatever reason, I can only advise you to drop by and have a beer, pick up a number of one of the girls and bang your brains out (but please pay your bills, or BB2000 will be out of business soon – and that definitely would be a great loss to all of us).

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BadBear2000

12-07-09, 03:43

Sawassdee was the winner of our new name contest. Now all you mongers need to get busy because Sawassdee is also one of the front runners of Monger of the Year award. As much as I liked this guy when he was here, somebody needs to step up to the plate before this guy winds up with a free week.

Sanchi Panki

12-08-09, 20:43

An italian journalist living in Haiti for many years and owner of a B&B in Jacmel similar to the BB mansion (except for the pussy.) has been killed in a robbery outside a bank in delmas area December the 6

I just want to express my grief for that my compatriot and ask how is really the situation of public order and security actually in PAP?

http://www.haitipressnetwork.com/news.cfm?articleID=12996

BadBear2000

12-09-09, 04:44

If you read the news or watch television in any major city in any country, you are going to hear about robberies, killings, and other crimes. Port-au-Prince is no different than any other city. I walk around PAP with other mongers all the time at different times of the day or night. There are places in major cities in the U.S. that I would never do this. This is one of the reasons I am here is to educate you on the dos and don'ts of Haiti.

An italian journalist living in Haiti for many years and owner of a B&B in Jacmel similar to the BB mansion (except for the pussy.) has been killed in a robbery outside a bank in delmas area December the 6

I just want to express my grief for that my compatriot and ask how is really the situation of public order and security actually in PAP?

http://www.haitipressnetwork.com/news.cfm?articleID=12996

Clayshooter

12-23-09, 03:47

I have been a member of the site for a little less than a year. This being my first report so bear with me. I have visited Venezuela, Costa Rica (2), Jamaica, Philippines, D. R. (30+) and now Haiti.

I have stayed at Creole Mansion twice now from 11/13 thru 11/17 and 12/11 thru 12/14. My first visit was planned in advance the second was last minute but a room happened to be available.

I have struggled with the writing of this report because it is not all positive and I like the Owner and wish him well in his venture. However I have discussed all these issues with him personally so they are not a surprise and I do feel that given what this site has provided to me I owe it to the other members.

The Ladies.

There are certainly a number of ladies that seem to come by and visit the house weather because Bad Bear requested them to do so or on their own. The selection other than at the Sunday pool party can be spotty but is available. You will find that very few if any of the ladies will approach you so be prepared to be the aggressor or have one of the guys at the house give you a little help. The ladies are of all shape and size. Anyone will be able to find what they may be looking for. And yes they are beautiful and sexy.

Let me say that after two trips the best selection and most fun that I experienced was the second trip when two other guests and I were taken out to some of the local clubs by two "guides" from the Mansion. The selection of ladies was much better and the "Guides" were great to be with and new exactly what to do and how to do it. Again keep in mind you will more than likely be approaching the ladies with few exceptions other than pure pros and even then at times.

The House:

First keep in mind that it is a house not a hotel. Given that the "mansion" itself is layed out well to support our hobby. The four bedrooms are certainly oversized with their own bath. You have a common living room, dining room and courtyard pool area. The area of the mansion is good and security should not be a concern. The Mansion has a full time "house person" who is just great and will do anything he can to help you through your stay and almost a full time cook.

I tried to keep the issues that I had with the facilities in check after the first trip knowing this was a new venture and I know the Owner is new at this business but they continued thru the second. More importantly they continued after conversation with the Owner. The mansion is a nice building. But how it is managed is what the Owner feels is appropriate for him or locals not what a guest, at least this one, would expect. When I travel there are a few things that are a must for me, a hot shower with enough water to get wet at least in the morning and at night. Given why we are there it should be available 24/7, air conditioning at least in the bedroom whenever I want it, a T. V. That actually has some selection of stations as in the news, and clean towels and sheets, given what we are doing there, each day. None of these were provided on a continual basis but could have been.

Haiti has a problem with power in that it only is provided from about 9pm to 6am. However the mansion has a generator of the appropriate size to power the mansion along with an inverter. The Owner sees no need to run the generator for his guest unless he feels the need. Without the generator none of the listed items can be provided. I did not expect a 5 star hotel but I did expect more than a S. T. Hotel. I am sure it is a matter of dollars but that does not matter to me if I am paying to stay there.

Meals:

Breakfast and a late lunch early dinner are served. Breakfast is a typical American bacon and eggs type meal. Lunch/dinner is a more typical Haitian meal with the exception of the Sunday pool party meal which is a typical pool party BBQ.

My first visit meals were not a problem the second somehow I missed breakfast twice. Since there does not seem to be a set time when the meals are cooked I would ask when the meals are going to be served if you want to eat at the Mansion.

Transportation:

You need to keep in mind that when you visit transportation is an issue in that Haiti does not have taxis readily available and if you find one they are more than expensive. The mansion, during my two stays did not have a house car for use or hire. So whenever you want to go out it needs to be planned well in advance with a couple of independent services and then it is not for sure. You can use the Tap Tap's and motorcycle taxis but not too good to go hunting.

The bottom line for me is that I loved Haiti and the Haitian women and will certainly return. But I am not sure that I will use the mansion again as at the end of both of my stays I was so frustrated with the facility and at times uncomfortable that it takes away from the positive side of the trip.

I will be happy to answer any questions.

Clayshooter

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Jamjam222

12-23-09, 15:10

Haitihouse.com

Badbear: The link is down, or have you moved the site?

Manizales911

12-23-09, 16:34

I have been a member of the site for a little less than a year. This being my first report so bear with me. I have visited Venezuela, Costa Rica (2), Jamaica, Philippines, D. R. (30+) and now Haiti.

I have stayed at Creole Mansion twice now from 11/13 thru 11/17 and 12/11 thru 12/14. My first visit was planned in advance the second was last minute but a room happened to be available.

I have struggled with the writing of this report because it is not all positive and I like the Owner and wish him well in his venture. However I have discussed all these issues with him personally so they are not a surprise and I do feel that given what this site has provided to me I owe it to the other members.

The Ladies.

There are certainly a number of ladies that seem to come by and visit the house weather because Bad Bear requested them to do so or on their own. The selection other than at the Sunday pool party can be spotty but is available. You will find that very few if any of the ladies will approach you so be prepared to be the aggressor or have one of the guys at the house give you a little help. The ladies are of all shape and size. Anyone will be able to find what they may be looking for. And yes they are beautiful and sexy.

Let me say that after two trips the best selection and most fun that I experienced was the second trip when two other guests and I were taken out to some of the local clubs by two "guides" from the Mansion. The selection of ladies was much better and the "Guides" were great to be with and new exactly what to do and how to do it. Again keep in mind you will more than likely be approaching the ladies with few exceptions other than pure pros and even then at times.

The House:

First keep in mind that it is a house not a hotel. Given that the "mansion" itself is layed out well to support our hobby. The four bedrooms are certainly oversized with their own bath. You have a common living room, dining room and courtyard pool area. The area of the mansion is good and security should not be a concern. The Mansion has a full time "house person" who is just great and will do anything he can to help you through your stay and almost a full time cook.

I tried to keep the issues that I had with the facilities in check after the first trip knowing this was a new venture and I know the Owner is new at this business but they continued thru the second. More importantly they continued after conversation with the Owner. The mansion is a nice building. But how it is managed is what the Owner feels is appropriate for him or locals not what a guest, at least this one, would expect. When I travel there are a few things that are a must for me, a hot shower with enough water to get wet at least in the morning and at night. Given why we are there it should be available 24/7, air conditioning at least in the bedroom whenever I want it, a T. V. That actually has some selection of stations as in the news, and clean towels and sheets, given what we are doing there, each day. None of these were provided on a continual basis but could have been.

Haiti has a problem with power in that it only is provided from about 9pm to 6am. However the mansion has a generator of the appropriate size to power the mansion along with an inverter. The Owner sees no need to run the generator for his guest unless he feels the need. Without the generator none of the listed items can be provided. I did not expect a 5 star hotel but I did expect more than a S. T. Hotel. I am sure it is a matter of dollars but that does not matter to me if I am paying to stay there.

Meals:

Breakfast and a late lunch early dinner are served. Breakfast is a typical American bacon and eggs type meal. Lunch/dinner is a more typical Haitian meal with the exception of the Sunday pool party meal which is a typical pool party BBQ.

My first visit meals were not a problem the second somehow I missed breakfast twice. Since there does not seem to be a set time when the meals are cooked I would ask when the meals are going to be served if you want to eat at the Mansion.

Transportation:

You need to keep in mind that when you visit transportation is an issue in that Haiti does not have taxis readily available and if you find one they are more than expensive. The mansion, during my two stays did not have a house car for use or hire. So whenever you want to go out it needs to be planned well in advance with a couple of independent services and then it is not for sure. You can use the Tap Tap's and motorcycle taxis but not too good to go hunting.

The bottom line for me is that I loved Haiti and the Haitian women and will certainly return. But I am not sure that I will use the mansion again as at the end of both of my stays I was so frustrated with the facility and at times uncomfortable that it takes away from the positive side of the trip.

I will be happy to answer any questions.

Clayshooter

[size=-2]EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information. Great report, very informative and it has sealed the deal for me, I'll head back to the DR then Colombia in a few weeks. For $130. US a day I would expect better accommodations.

Being the only "mansion" type set up in Haiti BadBear has a great opportunity to have a steady stream of customers going there but not if he doesn't make it his business to accommodate his customers.

Then again there are two sides to every story and I for one look forward to hearing BadBears side.

BadBear2000

12-23-09, 18:26

*************.com is the new name

Haitihouse.com

Badbear: The link is down, or have you moved the site?

Charles Pooter

12-23-09, 21:50

KW Kids

12-24-09, 01:56

Clayshooter

12-24-09, 03:04

Clayshooter, thank you for troubling to post such a detailed report. I hope that BadBear will take your negative observations as constructive criticism and either patiently refute them, or if accepted as accurate, say how he intends to address them.

I hope none of us would underestimate the difficulties he is facing in getting this innovative plan up and running and self-funding in a country like Haiti. We all want to support him and make Creole Mansion a success.

Perhaps I shouldn't jump the gun before reading whatever Badbear may reply, but if the answer is to up the price by a few dollars then so be it. I am probably on one of the tightest mongering budgets of any of us, having lost around a quarter of my already slim retirement fund in last year's crash, but I know that after having incurred the expense and trouble of getting to Haiti I wouldn't quibble about paying a little more to ensure a supply of warm (not necessarily hot) water and replacement clean sheets and towels.

Interesting that you make no mention of the lack of mosquito screens which was highlighted by a previous critic. Has that now been remedied, or did you not feel that was an issue?C. P.

For yourself, Bad Bear, and all others the intent of my report was certainly, though somewhat negative, to help the Mansion grow and succeed along with updating others. You are correct there is certainly nothing easy about a venture of this type and Bad Bears efforts to date should be commended.

I agree with you that paying a few additional dollars, if that is the answer, would certainly not be an issue for me. Given that I believe the current rates to be more than reasonable.

As far as the mosquito screen. No they have not been installed however they were also not an issue during my two trips.

Clayshooter

Clayshooter

12-24-09, 03:45

Clayshooter,

Thank you for your objective and honest report. I wish there was more like yours across all the boards! Having mongered in Cuba and many other very poor countries I have also come across less than great accommodations many times, ie- no toilet seats, clean towels, etc. I have just one question for you to answear as objectively as your previous comments. What was the pricing structure that you experienced in Haiti? I do not mind giving up some creature comforts if the LT/ST is less than other countries. I'm a budget mongerer who does not go into a Mcdonalds and pay $20 for a burger and say keep the change when the locals are paying a dollar for the same burger. Please help me with this question using your obvious objectivity. I just do not want to get there and find a bunch of spoiled girls! ThanksKW,

First let me say that I am NOT an expert on Haiti as I have only been there twice. Haiti as a whole is not a cheap country. The best value that I found in the country is the ladies and the Mansion. I did not experience any form of "spoiled girls". In fact I found just the opposite to be true. I would say that the "local" clubs are priced fairly, not cheap, but fair. I believe you will find the high end clubs to be also high priced. The same should be said for the restaurants.

I hope this answered your question.

Clayshooter

Charles Pooter

12-24-09, 13:51

KW,

First let me say that I am NOT an expert on Haiti as I have only been there twice. Haiti as a whole is not a cheap country. The best value that I found in the country is the ladies and the Mansion. I did not experience any form of "spoiled girls". In fact I found just the opposite to be true. I would say that the "local" clubs are priced fairly, not cheap, but fair. I believe you will find the high end clubs to be also high priced. The same should be said for the restaurants.

I hope this answered your question.

Clayshooter
KW, in addition to Clayshooter's comments here, if you read back further in the Haiti threads you will find recent and specific information about girl prices at Creole Mansion (then called Haiti House).

Alew217

12-25-09, 01:57

To set the record straight, I am presently at The Creole Mansion. I guess you could say I am not a good monger because I do not always post after each trip but I always read ISG post before I travel to a new place. Nevertheless I only post after I return home but I felt a need to post early this time. I have been here 3 weeks, therefore I was here when many of you were here. I am a person who tries to see the positive but I am also an honest guy.

Badbear: In all my travels from The Philippines, Ghana and many times to DR, I have never met a nicer guy. BB will bend over backwards to help you. If he has one fault it is because he tries to please everyone, he is overwhelmed by the things needed to be done at the Creole Mansion. He will call beautiful girls anytime to come to the house for you. Daily I have used this service. No were else can you find this service.

The Creole Mansion: Absolutely beautiful. The rooms are very large compared to most hotels, all with separate baths. There is actually one room with a jacuzzi which is ernormous. Location wise its close to 2 markets if you want supplies. Approximately 10 minutes to the nightclubs and bars depending on traffic. Security wise its completely safe and I have walked the streets many times and never felt threatened. Bear told me these people still have the slave mentality, very friendly and lovely people.

The Ladies: A mongers dream if you like chocolate, light or dark. The nightclubs are packed after midnight each friday and saturdays. I have never seen as many hot & sexy ladies in my life. I was restricted somewhat in my inability to speak either french or creole but BB has many friends to help you in this area. Some of the clubs are Barak's and Jet Set. There is one thing that sets Creole Mansion apart from a hotel is you can meet other guys who you can hang around with. Unlike my other trips, I have always traveled alone and when I was not fucking, I became bored.

Electrical Problems: As far as the AC and electric shortages, Haiti only as power available from the power company from around 7pm until 6am, I am the type of guy who demnads AC but Bear would always run the generator if asked. Throughout the days power is supplied by an inverter which easily carries the load for everything except for AC. I have addressed this with BB and he agrees that the generator will be turned on each day between 11:00am until 12:30pm and again from 3:00pm until 4:30pm. This is very doable for me. I completely agree and understand because of the crazy costs for fuel here. Haiti is much more expensive than the Philippines or even DR. Hot water was never a problem for me, yes the water pressure is not as good as in US but hell I do not expect it to be.

Sunday Pool Party: You have never seen such a site!!!! This is worth the cost of your trip alone, Last sunday the pool party started at noon. No ladies showed up, about 3pm the ladies started arriving
.and they continued until 8pm. It seems the more that came the better they looked. I was afriad to pair up with one too soon thinking a better one would show up. At least 20 hot and sexy ladies were here with 5 guys present. I love these odds. I have some videos and many more pics to post as soon as I get home.

Things I like best:

A. There is never a question or a charge for your guest.
B. Security is great and I never felt threatened even at night around the clubs
C. The other mongers I met were great, we had a great time hunting together.
D. Breakfast and dinner furnished, you can even fix you own meal in his complete kitchen. I cooked chili and prepared Hillshire beer brauts.
E. Internet service WiFi
F. Sunday pool party.

To sum things up: Yes the ammenties here are not like you will find at home, but what the hell are we traveling for??? PUSSY, I prefer dark ladies without the attitude like I find in the states. Cost of pussy is very cheap compared to DR standards. Here for ST I pay 500 to 600 gourdes which is about $12 to $15 US for LT I pay 1000 gourdes which is $25.00 US.

Myore Vega

12-25-09, 05:39

LOL. L, I forgot you didn't go back to DR. I guess you are still holding things down over there. I'll drop you a PM since I forgot to get your contact information while out there.

To add onto what you posted.

BadBear:

Overall good guy that tries to make your stay as enjoyable as possible.

Airport:

In November I was forgotten at the airport but BB apologized and was very quick to retreive me in a timely fashion. This time (December) I sent an email before my flight and everything went very smoothly.

Phones:

Probably the most important thing you can do when you get there is acquire a cell phone and number (sim card). That's the first thing I do in DR if I'm out of minutes on my Orange phone. Once you have that and start taking numbers you can throw your own mini party or call someone over whenever you want. One night in a club and your phone should have a good amount of numbers.

Also, if you don't have a key for the side door and you come back late it helps to be able to call someone to open the gate. And if you are out with a group you can call to find out where the others are if you get seperated.

Now if you have collected numbers from Badoo before you arrived the phone lets you get in contact with them and you can go that route too but if you've been out to the club you probably won't have time unless there is someone you just absolutely want to meet. Or if you have a lot of time.

Kitchen:

The kitchen set up is okay but refrigerators in the rooms would be better. Someone ate another person's food one day. So, if you have something you don't want someone else to eat maybe putting your name on it might be a quick fix?

Pool Party:

The Sunday pool party was okay. If I were to return I might kick in some money for a Saturday party too. Seems like a waste to just have the one party on Saturday. Also, the pool party may not have been so good if Blue Vette didn't bring a bunch of bikinis with him. The music needs to be better since some of the music could put you to sleep. LOL. At one point I found myself missing the chica houses and clubs of Santo Domingo.

Internet:

The internet is good but only if you have a laptop (I. E., there isn't a house computer). On this trip one of the guests (Blue Vette) had a laptop which he allowed people to use. The laptop comes in handy when you don't know how to speak and you want to use google translator to communicate. However, nothing beats learning Creole and French.

Clubs:

I met the other house guests at the popular mainstream clubs so I'll say the clubs are about 20-30 minutes walking uphill and 15-20 minutes walking downhill. Or 7-10 minutes on a motorcycle.

There are some local spots that I feel are better and are within close proximity to the marketplace at the top of the hill where all the vans and motorcycles gather. One of these spots charged 100 gourdes to get in and prestige beer was 50 gourdes. It has tons of girls and some of the best music.

Ammenties:

If you have a mat and running water do you really need anything else? Yes, but not really much so I'm not going to comment on this since it varies too much with individual needs, wants and tastes. At one point I found myself wanting clear channels on the television but that's only because I had stayed in the jacuzzi room once before and knew that conditions could be better under different conditions. LOL. What you don't know. Anyway, wasn't really there to watch television so.

Walking around:

This is really easy since there is one main road with several streets that branch off it. If you are just going for short distances you can stay on the main road just be mindful that if you go downhill it'll take a lot out of you going back up so you might want to catch a motorcycle or the shared vans back up. I suggest walking around in the daytime at least once to get a sense of where everything is.

I hope I remained neutral and left out anything overly negative. LOL. For that we'd have to sit down for drinks. Maybe I'll catch some of you in Sosua or the Philippines.

To set the record straight, I am presently at The Creole Mansion. I guess you could say I am not a good monger because I do not always post after each trip but I always read ISG post before I travel to a new place. Nevertheless I only post after I return home but I felt a need to post early this time. I have been here 3 weeks, therefore I was here when many of you were here. I am a person who tries to see the positive but I am also an honest guy.

Badbear: In all my travels from The Philippines, Ghana and many times to DR, I have never met a nicer guy. BB will bend over backwards to help you. If he has one fault it is because he tries to please everyone, he is overwhelmed by the things needed to be done at the Creole Mansion. He will call beautiful girls anytime to come to the house for you. Daily I have used this service. No were else can you find this service.

The Creole Mansion: Absolutely beautiful. The rooms are very large compared to most hotels, all with separate baths. There is actually one room with a jacuzzi which is ernormous. Location wise its close to 2 markets if you want supplies. Approximately 10 minutes to the nightclubs and bars depending on traffic. Security wise its completely safe and I have walked the streets many times and never felt threatened. Bear told me these people still have the slave mentality, very friendly and lovely people.

The Ladies: A mongers dream if you like chocolate, light or dark. The nightclubs are packed after midnight each Friday and saturdays. I have never seen as many hot & sexy ladies in my life. I was restricted somewhat in my inability to speak either french or creole but BB has many friends to help you in this area. Some of the clubs are Barak's and Jet Set. There is one thing that sets Creole Mansion apart from a hotel is you can meet other guys who you can hang around with. Unlike my other trips, I have always traveled alone and when I was not fucking, I became bored.

Electrical Problems: As far as the AC and electric shortages, Haiti only as power available from the power company from around 7pm until 6am, I am the type of guy who demnads AC but Bear would always run the generator if asked. Throughout the days power is supplied by an inverter which easily carries the load for everything except for AC. I have addressed this with BB and he agrees that the generator will be turned on each day between 11:00am until 12:30pm and again from 3:00pm until 4:30pm. This is very doable for me. I completely agree and understand because of the crazy costs for fuel here. Haiti is much more expensive than the Philippines or even DR. Hot water was never a problem for me, yes the water pressure is not as good as in US but hell I do not expect it to B.

Sunday Pool Party: You have never seen such a site! This is worth the cost of your trip alone, Last Sunday the pool party started at noon. No ladies showed up, about 3pm the ladies started arriving

. And they continued until 8pm. It seems the more that came the better they looked. I was afriad to pair up with one too soon thinking a better one would show up. At least 20 hot and sexy ladies were here with 5 guys present. I love these odds. I have some videos and many more pics to post as soon as I get home.

Things I like best:

A. There is never a question or a charge for your guest.

B. Security is great and I never felt threatened even at night around the clubs

C. The other mongers I met were great, we had a great time hunting together.

D. Breakfast and dinner furnished, you can even fix you own meal in his complete kitchen. I cooked chili and prepared Hillshire beer brauts.

E. Internet service WiFi

F. Sunday pool party.

To sum things up: Yes the ammenties here are not like you will find at home, but what the hell are we traveling for? PUSSY, I prefer dark ladies without the attitude like I find in the states. Cost of pussy is very cheap compared to DR standards. Here for ST I pay 500 to 600 gourdes which is about $12 to $15 US for LT I pay 1000 gourdes which is $25. 00 US.

KW Kids

12-25-09, 05:40

You answeared my questions Alew217, sounds like my next trip destination. Thanks, KW Kids.

Ayyyypapi

12-25-09, 16:03

European Man

12-26-09, 01:17

Hi Badbear,

Do girls of your mansion accept cum in mouth, swallow and/or anal sex?

Lorenzo

12-26-09, 05:33

If you want a luxury hotel, CM is close to it.
For those of us who are uninitiated, what is CM?

Miami Ab

12-26-09, 06:03

For those of us who are uninitiated, what is CM?I am guessing Creole Mansion.

BadBear2000

12-26-09, 12:46

I have had many girls swallow. I know some do the anal but since that is not my thing I cannot guarantee. I have heard they do

Hi Badbear,

Do girls of your mansion accept cum in mouth, swallow and/or anal sex?

BootyLover

12-26-09, 13:21

I have had many girls swallow. I know some do the anal but since that is not my thing I cannot guarantee. I have heard they doSwallowing and backdooring is available all over the country, but for a fraction of the girls; this is exactly what you'll encounter at CM. The key difference is that the mansion is a quality source of cashflow for them, hence they should be quite flexible.

You'll find girls for almost ever type and how you treat them, not only financially but humanly, may make a great difference in the type of service you might receive. Just make sure that you ask them in private, as a general question, before negotiating.

Sinclair

12-26-09, 17:08

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Jackson

Calculator

12-28-09, 04:16

I wish Bad Bear Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to the Haiti ISG board.

I encourage ALL of you to visit the Creole Mansion for a week. It will be an unforgettably wonderful experience.

If you want a luxury hotel, CM is close to it.

Make sure to meet Biggin; she's a fun, beautiful Haitiana who speaks English and drives.Just wondering, what is the ball park estimate ($US) for a full hour quickie or an all nighter with the girls? I know it's gotta be a helluva lot less than in the DR.

I would not want to ruin the market prices out there by overpaying should I decide to come down there!!

BadBear2000

12-28-09, 13:34

For a quickie it should be 500gdes which is about $12 US. Of an all nighter it should be between 1000 to 1500 gdes which will be from $24 to $36. Now let me remind you that you will fall in love with some of the these girls and will want to run away with them. However, being the mongers we are we will usually convince ourselves that we are not ready to hang up the mongering belt so we will give them a little more or buy them things. I have been with the same girl now for almost 6 months and every time we have a pool party, I slap myself but it is so good, I just can't give it up yet

Just wondering, what is the ball park estimate ($US) for a full hour quickie or an all nighter with the girls? I know it's gotta be a helluva lot less than in the DR.

I would not want to ruin the market prices out there by overpaying should I decide to come down there!

BadBear2000

12-28-09, 17:07

Marc, I don't worry too much about what this guy says. It is obvious he does not know Haiti as I do. Most of my friends are Haitian. As a matter of fact my best friend who I would die for is Haitian. He thinks what I am doing is great for Haiti. We have had 2 girls on the verge of getting married. If you know Haiti the way I know it you would know that these people need money input. I just had a guy bring a 50 lb bag of school supplies for my girl's school where more than 80 homeless kids. I will be posting a lengthy post on him and what he did. I am not a very sentimental person but what he did gave me an emotional lift that almost made me cry. I am not just here for the girls. If I was, I would certainly not be running this house as it cuts into my mongering.

Play nice or we'll tell Uncle Bob what you foreign devils have been doing with his women and he'll show you what machetes are for.

Marc Anthony

12-28-09, 17:53

Marc, I don't worry too much about what this guy says. It is obvious he does not know Haiti as I do. Most of my friends are Haitian. As a matter of fact my best friend who I would die for is Haitian. He thinks what I am doing is great for Haiti. We have had 2 girls on the verge of getting married. If you know Haiti the way I know it you would know that these people need money input. I just had a guy bring a 50 lb bag of school supplies for my girl's school where more than 80 homeless kids. I will be posting a lengthy post on him and what he did. I am not a very sentimental person but what he did gave me an emotional lift that almost made me cry. I am not just here for the girls. If I was, I would certainly not be running this house as it cuts into my mongering.I'd love to hear about that or see any photos of your offtopic life in haiti. I just made the comment because Sinclair's other posts are about mongering in Zimbabwe, and Uncle Bob is just a reference to the glorious President there. Actually I'd like to hear more from Sinclair who seems from some of his other posts to be very articulate. I'm curious if he has ever been to Haiti.

BadBear2000

12-28-09, 18:21

My website gives a little info about my near death illness that was being treated in the U.S. by a doctor for acid reflux. It turned out I had intestinal cancer which was blocking my large intestines from my small intestines. A doctor I had known for years fixed me and I am happy to say 8 1/2 years later I have no problems. Cost was $6000 which I had been told b y the same doctor who let my mother die of stomach cancer after treating her for one year with what he called scar tissue discomfort that it would cost me about $28,000 just to run tests. I LOVE HAITI

I'd love to hear about that or see any photos of your offtopic life in haiti. I just made the comment because Sinclair's other posts are about mongering in Zimbabwe, and Uncle Bob is just a reference to the glorious President there. Actually I'd like to hear more from Sinclair who seems from some of his other posts to be very articulate. I'm curious if he has ever been to Haiti.

BadBear2000

12-29-09, 20:16

I cannot wait until the first to issue this award. It is like the anti-lock braking system that Mercedes invented and said it was too important to keep for themselves. As you know, my girl helps manage a school for over 80 homeless children. This gentleman, who I would love to give his real name, brought 50 lbs of school supplies. When my girl saw them, I thought she was going explode with joy. The next morning her along with this guy took off on a tap tap. they had to ride 3 different tap taps and after that had to walk up a long hill. Him being the gentleman he was, he carried the 50 lb bag even though my girl kept insisting she should carry it some. Suffering from a heart problem the doctors cannot pinpoint, he fought off pain and made it. He had to sit after getting there. He talked of the building that was still under construction and how excited the children were. He had included a huge bag of lolly pops that my girl's cousin had spent several hours the night before tying them into bundles of three so each kid could have their share. I will be posting pics of the school with this special person. I will have to obviously black out his face which is really a shame because when a person does this kind of deed, I think he should get direct recognition. This guy you know as Blue vette.

Congratulations Blue Vette, you have a free night at the Creole Mansion Jacuzzi Room on your next trip regardless of the pricing at that time.

Member #4351

12-29-09, 20:20

A very nice gesture and worthy of recognition.

Michaelzxc

01-03-10, 17:48

Are there places like National Parks that you can visit?

BadBear2000

01-04-10, 12:24

I don't want to sound sarcastic but Haiti is one big park. There are some interesting places to go. You will be awed at the things you will see in Haiti

Are there places like National Parks that you can visit?

Mick888

01-04-10, 16:52

BadBear2000

01-05-10, 02:35

Isn't San Juan near Nagua. I have had beach property there since 1989. It is at the end of the boardwalk they are building. Now you wander why I am in Haiti. There are many girls in Haiti that is not blown up by Big Macs, whoppers, hot and juicy Wendys. I had to come to the DR for couple of days and riding bus watching the girls almost made me cry. It was once a monger's haven. I cannot believe we have reached out with our bely builders from the U.S. and ruined these girls. And there again, I remember when $20 would get you hot spinner that you could take to the beach and show off the next day.

*************com

Well, I was very often in DR, especially I have many friends in San Juan de la Maguana. It is not far from Haiti.

I would like to travel to Petionsville to meet the very dark wonderful ladies.

Please port your website!

And many more hot pics of the nicest dark ladies in the world!

BadBear2000

01-06-10, 17:45

Have you ever wondered why mongering in the U.S. is so dangerous. First of all, it is the LE or law enforcement. Where you can get busted, pay a fine, get your name in the paper, and if you get caught in certain area will lose your car and have to buy it back for $2, 500. But this is only the beginning. Most of the girls in the U.S. are drug users and will do anything to feed their habits. Next most of them have pimps who may rob you if you get caught in the wrong position. And the bad thing is you cannot go to the police because you would have to explain what you were doing. It is kinda like if you were growing weed and someone stole it. Would you go to the police and tell them someone stole your grass?

In the DR, there are many pimps. The Canadian that just got killed was probably setup by one of the girls and her pimp and his buddy robbed him. In Haiti, a pimp would go broke. These girls are too willing to give it up for little or no money. Here, when a girls asks you for too much you simple wave her buy and move to the next. The next time you see that same girl, she will change her price. Haiti is like a chocolate auction house. If there is two guys trying to get the same girl, they will obviously go to the highest bidder.
The problem is; there is so much sweet chocolate no mongers fights for a particular piece.

These are my words of wisdom for the day.

BadBear2000

01-07-10, 10:58

I guess that proves that they were doing false advertising back when cars starting using them. That us to be one of Mercedes big adds. Oh well I guess I better get back to nookie

FYI mercedes did not invent anti lock brakes,airplanes were using them years before cars. In fact mercedes system proved to be expensive and unreliable when it first came out. Bye the way Happy New Year from the frozen north I envy you guys.

Charles Pooter

01-07-10, 17:54

Isn't San Juan de la Maguana near Nagua?
You are thinking of Rio San Juan. SJ de la Maguana is centre-west DR, not far from Haïti.

BadBear2000

01-07-10, 20:46

You are right. That is where my ex-wife was born

You are thinking of Rio San Juan. SJ de la Maguana is centre-west DR, not far from Haïti.

Frannie

01-29-10, 07:03

I love these two young ladies, both 20 years old, and they arrived this evening for a scheduled theesome. I had spent time with each of them alone and am very fond of both.

As you can see they are wearing the dust masks that many people wear these days in Port au Prince either to hide the smell of decomposing bodies in many buildings, or to keep out the dust of which there is a great deal as many concrete buildings have been pulverized.

Frannie

01-29-10, 13:27

Business as usual while dust masks are worn to hide the smell of lots of gorgeous decomposing snatch. Must be some kind of irony there. Maybe a minutes silence is in order before partaking of business. Just a thought.

Well, everyone here is traumatized beyond belief. Everyone knows people who died, even if not their own immediate family. Businesses are closed because the owners have disappeared. People are getting sick because of the dust. Everyone here is all too aware of it. However, taking some time out to make love and show affection is one of the few remaining outlets for stress relief, so no apologies. My perception is that people are now starting to realign, form new friendships and alliances after the earthquake.

One of my girls from last night had too much rum and coke and ended up puking in the bathroom after 20 minutes of eating pussy. Fortunately little damage was done and I was able to finish the job she had started, but it just shows how well advised one is to always have a backup plan for contingencies.

Memo to self: Don't know why I buy alcoholic drinks for other people as I don't drink myself, and they nearly always end up disgracing themselves. Remember not to do it again.

Tom Gueguen

01-29-10, 13:27

Frannie

01-29-10, 13:35

They're nice. Others pictures?

They are both beautiful, charming, and affectionate and I don't know which one I love the most. I don't usually do pictures of private moments, but here is one more that was posed in public giving a hint of what was to come. The picture absolutely does not do them justice, but they came in beautifully dressed, coiffed, and made up, looking like the epitome of style, with their long slender legs and tiny bottoms displayed on the shortest of hot pants. (I saw several beauty shops open again today.). Sorry picture is sideways, but these girls look good from any angle--even from underneath, take my word.

Lexb

01-29-10, 14:30

It makes sense to speculate that the number of foreign men mongering in Haiti have been reduced to a "trickle", I was wondering how much was "donated" to the "Hope for Haiti" relief fund for the following?

I love these two young ladies, both 20 years old, and they arrived this evening for a scheduled theesome. I had spent time with each of them alone and am very fond of both.

Alan

01-29-10, 15:41

Good God, Frannie! How can you have sex at a time like this in Haiti? Not sure my cock can get hard with the sight of a dead child or broken bodies right outside my door.

BionicMan

01-29-10, 16:01

Good God, Frannie! How can you have sex at a time like this in Haiti? Not sure my cock can get hard with the sight of a dead child or broken bodies right outside my door.You are right but maybe this is a sign that ...life tries to go back to normal (as much as normal it can be, as long it will take to go back to normal)
Human being have an animal capacity to somehow remove certain odd things, otherwise all genders (human and animal, I would even include vegetables) would be gone since milleniums. If not millions of years.
Think at the capacities of women to recover from the pains of the delivery of a baby and be ready to have more babies in the (even near) future.
I agree it all looks weird, but it might have some psychological explanation.

BadBear2000

01-30-10, 05:22

I can assure you that none of the donation has gone toward a nookie for myself and Frannie has his own money. As a matter of fact I have not had sex since the night before the earthquake. My girl slept outside on the street while \I slept inside. Only one night which was the last night we were together in Haiti was on the ground inside the wall. A couple of nights in Haiti but we had a companion in the bed next to us so guess what not sex. To be honest with you I have not had the desire since the quake.

I wish you guys that keep questioning what is happening to the donation that other people are making would come down here and help me pass out things and buy things instead of criticizing what we are doing. What you need to do is watch the so called charity groups driving around in the $80,000 vehicles doing nothing. I have not only spent money donated but my own money and to be honest, I am about to run out. So please come and take my place

It makes sense to speculate that the number of foreign men mongering in Haiti have been reduced to a "trickle", I was wondering how much was "donated" to the "Hope for Haiti" relief fund for the following?

Bbond

01-30-10, 07:34

I wish you guys that keep questioning what is happening to the donation that other people are making would come down here and help me pass out things and buy things instead of criticizing what we are doing.

The little I know of BB, I can tell you from my experience, and the posts of others here, he is REALLY concerned for the people of Haiti. If you doubt that, don't send him anything, if you believe it, send him all you can.
I honestly believe that BB is in Haiti for two reasons, he likes to monger there and he has fallen in love with the people.
He could bail anytime he so desires, thing is, he don't desire that.
Only wish I could do more.

Above all, don't criticize a man until you have walked in his shoes......

Frannie

01-30-10, 17:17

Good God, Frannie! How can you have sex at a time like this in Haiti? Not sure my cock can get hard with the sight of a dead child or broken bodies right outside my door.

Not really. Even in the course of my work in the US I often have to deal with horrific injuries, dead bodies etc. and it has never affected my libido. The aren't really any dead bodies right outside the door, and haven't been any corpses lying in the streets for a long time.

What is remarkable is how quickly so many Haitians have recovered from the recent terrible events and are getting on with their lives, forming new relationships, and generally moving forward.

Even the aftermath of an earthquake provides tremendous economic opporunity, for example thousands of people are now occupied extracting steel concrete reinforcement bars from collapsed buidings and rubble to sell for scrap. Street vendors of fresh produce are doing great business, and impromptu outdoor fast food restaurants are everywhere.

Here is a photo of a new business run by a local entrepreneuir.

Also I think the post that I am replying to tells something about the posters attitude to sex, that somehow it is not a natural and happy function. Last night I was in the embarrassing situation of arriving home with a girl, only to find that another favorite was there waiting for me. Having explored the possiblities of the threesome and discarded them, I fully paid one of the girls just to go away without any sex. She was not a happy camper at all and had tears in her eyes. So don't think that it is a case of us nasty cruel men exploiting vulnerable girls to feed our evil lusts. It goes both ways.

I really can't speak for or explain BB's accounting of donated funds, but I have spent a good deal of my own money and have distributed several hundreds of dollars worth of flashlights, batteries, foodstuffs, plus spending a lot of time treating wounds free of charge, again with medical supplies purchased at my own expense--until they ran out. Also by spending money as a visitor to Haiti, I make a small contribution to Haiti's need for foreign currency, and provide some vitally needed economic activity for local restaurants etc.

I will be staying in touch with some of the girls by e-mail or phone, am currently learning Kreyol, and hope to be back in Haiti before long. Haiti is a wonderful place and it needs foreign tourism and investment. I have no regrets about my visit here. The fact that I have had some of the best sex of my life was an unexpected bonus, but even without that it would have been well worth coming.

Lexb

01-30-10, 17:43

I wish you guys that keep questioning what is happening to the donation that other people are making would come down here and help me pass out things and buy things instead of criticizing what we are doing.And (refering to BadBear2000)

Above all, don't criticize a man until you have walked in his shoes......

Both comments generated from this post:

Since, do to recent cataclysmic events...

it makes sense to speculate that the number of foreign men mongering in Haiti have been reduced to a "trickle", I was wondering how much was "donated" to the "Hope for Haiti" relief fund for the following?

was just my attempt, and, perhaps, it was rather a lame one, at "tongue-in-cheek sarcasm regarding this report by Frannie:

I love these two young ladies, both 20 years old, and they arrived this evening for a scheduled theesome. I had spent time with each of them alone and am very fond of both.

I fully realise that "life has to go on", but good God man, enjoying a threesome NOW while 150000+ people, many being children, are dead(and decomposing) or dying just kilometres or, possibly, metres away from where you are joyfully banging away!(And that does not even take into consideration a country which will take decades to rebuild if, in fact, it is rebuilt at all to any semblance of its previous "self"!).

The appropriateness/morality of this, on any level, totally escapes me and that was the reason for my post!

Perhaps, it is just me, but I would have given these "two young ladies", as soon as they arrived at my place, the money I would have given them for the "threesome" plus any additional funds I could spare! I would have then told them to go back to their family/friends and do what they can to help them!

But again, perhaps it is just me!

Tom Gueguen

01-31-10, 02:40

And (refering to BadBear2000)

Both comments generated from this post:

was just my attempt, and, perhaps, it was rather a lame one, at "tongue-in-cheek sarcasm regarding this report by Frannie:

I fully realise that "life has to go on", but good God man, enjoying a threesome NOW while 150000+ people, many being children, are dead(and decomposing) or dying just kilometres or, possibly, metres away from where you are joyfully banging away!(And that does not even take into consideration a country which will take decades to rebuild if, in fact, it is rebuilt at all to any semblance of its previous "self"!).

The appropriateness/morality of this, on any level, totally escapes me and that was the reason for my post!

Perhaps, it is just me, but I would have given these "two young ladies", as soon as they arrived at my place, the money I would have given them for the "threesome" plus any additional funds I could spare! I would have then told them to go back to their family/friends and do what they can to help them!

But again, perhaps it is just me!

Don't forget the purpose of this board....

Frannie

01-31-10, 03:20

And (refering to BadBear2000)
I fully realise that "life has to go on", but good God man, enjoying a threesome NOW while 150000+ people, many being children, are dead(and decomposing) or dying just kilometres or, possibly, metres away from where you are joyfully banging away!(And that does not even take into consideration a country which will take decades to rebuild if, in fact, it is rebuilt at all to any semblance of its previous "self"!).

The appropriateness/morality of this, on any level, totally escapes me and that was the reason for my post!

Perhaps, it is just me, but I would have given these "two young ladies", as soon as they arrived at my place, the money I would have given them for the "threesome" plus any additional funds I could spare! I would have then told them to go back to their family/friends and do what they can to help them!

But again, perhaps it is just me!

Good god, man. Tens of thousand of Haitians have been thrown out of work, but these two young ladies have had the opportunity to continue to ply their trade and support their families.

Of course I could have been a Good Samaritan and just withdrawn every penny I have in the bank, mortgaged my home and given all the proceeds to the first Haitians I saw in the street, but the truth is that life has to go on, there is still an economic order to things, food is still bought and sold and shared with family and friends.

These two young ladies spent a total of 5 nights with me, two each and one night with both together. They are lovers, and to see the care and affection with which they caressed each other in these awful times was a beautiful experience, and the fact that they treated me like one of themselves was even better.

They kept coming back for more, and as well as money they had numerous other gifts from me, not to mention cooked meals, hot showers, and supplies of all kinds.

They practically stripped me naked. Well, in fact they did that too.

Today, thanks to my bounty, their children are fed, both of them have gone to visit families and I have spoken to them on the phone. However, I have noted that some of the funds donated have been allocated to pretty clothes, make-up, booze, and cigarettes. Perhaps I should have given them a lecture about wasting hard-earned funds while millions of their countrymen are starving and/or dying.

I do actually understand how people may feel about this, but I think you have to actually be here to understand how life goes on as before. Also to the casual reader these young ladies are just sex objects. To me they are people I know, they have slept in my arms, and I have heard their breathing and felt their hearts beating. That is what makes it different.

Alew217

01-31-10, 03:25

It really amazes me how some people think.

Alew217

And (refering to BadBear2000)

Both comments generated from this post:

was just my attempt, and, perhaps, it was rather a lame one, at "tongue-in-cheek sarcasm regarding this report by Frannie:

I fully realise that "life has to go on", but good God man, enjoying a threesome NOW while 150000+ people, many being children, are dead(and decomposing) or dying just kilometres or, possibly, metres away from where you are joyfully banging away!(And that does not even take into consideration a country which will take decades to rebuild if, in fact, it is rebuilt at all to any semblance of its previous "self"!).

The appropriateness/morality of this, on any level, totally escapes me and that was the reason for my post!

Perhaps, it is just me, but I would have given these "two young ladies", as soon as they arrived at my place, the money I would have given them for the "threesome" plus any additional funds I could spare! I would have then told them to go back to their family/friends and do what they can to help them!

But again, perhaps it is just me!

Victorn

01-31-10, 04:42

It really amazes me how some people think.

Alew217Remember Second World War in Europe: well, Germany was also in rubbles and German girls were giving themselves up for chocolate bars, cigarettes, chewing gums, etc.

It is the resilience of the human ANIMAL: in the midst of desolation, people STILL NEED love, affection, money, anything that gets their mind away from a sad environment.

Don t listen to the do-gooders, show us some nice photos. Hey, if you can stomach the environment (no casinos, no plush bars, no discos,) the picking should be taken by the risk-takers.

BadBear2000

01-31-10, 06:08

Today I walked up to the corner of Delmas where there is a tent city. I was passing cookies out to the children and had some left over so I passed them out to the Grannies. Then I started breaking down the packs and giving out to the others. You have to remember that at this time the distribution centers are starting to get food out to people so in my area they are not starving. But children need to experience the things like candy and cookies and I guess that is where i am filling that gap at this time. It gives you a warm feeling to see the smiles on these peoples faces. I wish all of you could be here to experience it. Yes guys, the people that come to help are obviously going to partake in sex. That same guy that has that sex drive is also the same guys that are down here treating injured people and helping me pass out the goodies. All I can say is don't criticize them, come join them. The Creole Mansion has been declared by a civil engineer to be unsafe so we are moving to another house next week that will be a little different. It is actually more beautiful and nicer than the mansion. For you guys that do not have my email, send me a pm and I will send you pics of the new house. If you have access to our website you can go to it and click on the new house album and see it. Whether you want to come to play, come to help, come to play and help, or doing a job just let me know and you are welcome.

Member #4351

02-03-10, 16:02

For those who may not know, the morning of the day of the earthquake, after talking to BB, I purchased a ticket to PAP and also sent him money for 6 nights at his place. Some hours later the earthquake hit. I am still fighting with the airline to give me back my money for the ticket I couldn´t use. But BadBear sent me back every cent.

Kafka

02-10-10, 22:21

Are you in Petionville BB? I am staying nearby for 10days.....what is the address there?

Dark Knight

02-11-10, 00:55

Yes guys, the people that come to help are obviously going to partake in sex. That same guy that has that sex drive is also the same guys that are down here treating injured people and helping me pass out the goodies. All I can say is don't criticize them, come join them. The Creole Mansion has been declared by a civil engineer to be unsafe so we are moving to another house next week that will be a little different. It is actually more beautiful and nicer than the mansion. For you guys that do not have my email, send me a pm and I will send you pics of the new house. If you have access to our website you can go to it and click on the new house album and see it. Whether you want to come to play, come to help, come to play and help, or doing a job just let me know and you are welcome.

BadBear,

I appreciated meeting you in Port-au-Prince last week. I wish the circumstances had been different. Thanks again for trying to catch me at the bus station.

Let's definitely catch up at the new location. Drop me a line anytime.

DK

Frannie

02-12-10, 06:24

Effectively checked one of the recommendation on DR1, one of the recommendation was Capital Coach Line. Price stated was $75. 00 round trip from Santo Domingo to Port au Prince. In addition the Custom Fees to Port au Prince are $25. 00 US + 50 Gdes (I presume Gourdes which is the Haiti currency), on the way back there are also Custom Fees of $25. 00 US + 100 DR Pesos. The traveling time is 8 hres to go to Port au Prince, and 6hres back to Santo Domingo. Don't know why there are 2 hres difference.

Maybe because the two countries are in different time zones, so the actual journey is 7 hours, but an hour extra one way, and an hour less coming back when you reset your watch.

BadBear2000

02-16-10, 06:10

We are out Route Nationale 1. Send me a text message and I will give you my cell phone so you can call. We are near the beaches with a beautiful view.

Are you in Petionville BB? I am staying nearby for 10days.....what is the address there?

Dark Knight

02-16-10, 17:33

Maybe because the two countries are in different time zones, so the actual journey is 7 hours, but an hour extra one way, and an hour less coming back when you reset your watch.

Also, if you think about it from a practical standpoint, the border guards going in to RD must be more vigilant than the borderguards going in to Haiti.

With all due respect, there are many more Haitians trying to emigrate into RD than vice versa.

BadBear2000

02-24-10, 20:24

Just want to keep you guys up to date on our new house in Haiti. It is much larger than the old mansion and much nicer. I know the guys that have come to the mansion in the past wonder how that can be. The beds are better, view of the ocean and the mountains, and the seclusion lets our guest sleep better, make as much noise as possible without disturbing the neighbors, and what can be better than a swim in the ocean. Our rooms vary from 2 rooms sharing a bath with a private hallway between the two rooms and bath to the penthouse which can include an entire floor with a beautiful view of the ocean and mountains. With it comes a kingsize bed, a private bath, refrig in the room, balcony attached to the bedroom, and access to 2 other large balconies with views of the ocean and mountains. We have had requests from people to rent this on a monthly basis but we feel it is too valuable to let it go like that.

Of course at this time we are still sticking to our $85 a night with breakfast and dinner. We will continue this for a month or two. The rooms will be given in the order they are reserved. We have many people talking about coming from the 13th of March thru April. During the period following the earhquake, we were allowing people to stay at the mansion for nothing. All they had to do was furnish food and fuel for the vehicle to drive them around. All things come to an end. If you are coming with a help group, they will provide you with free room and board as long as you are out helping the needy. We were a part of that but at this time, the food and water distribution has been taken care of by the many help groups.

We are now taking reservations starting with March 10th. There must be a deposit as in the past we have experienced a few guys making reservations and then being no shows.

The rooms will be reserved in the following manner:

1. Penthouse
2. Second floor private bath
3. Second floor with shared bath and balcony with view of the ocean
4. Second floor with shared bath and view of the mountain
5. First floor with shared bath and view of the ocean
6. First floor with shared bath and view of the mountain.

Keep in mind that all rooms have access to the third floor balcony which are very large with a beautiful view of the ocean and mountains.

I can tell you that within the near future the penthouse will rent for a minimum of $150 per night.

If there is not enough guests at the time of your visit and you have choices 3,4,5,and 6, you will have a private bath as you will be able to close the hallway door making it private to your room. Also, if you come with a monger buddy, most of you do not mind sharing a bath with them.

We will start having BBQs on Sunday and Saturday.

Come and have fun

Cunning Linguist

02-25-10, 02:51

Saltydawg

02-25-10, 06:15

I'm interested to here you're now located near the sea. Where exactly is your new spot? Perhaps you could post it on a map of Haiti. I assume it's a bit more remotely located which has it's advantages for those of us who like the idea of a more rural setting. How are you dealing with airport transfers? Perhaps you'll post some fotos of the place and it's surroundings.

Best of luck!

Member #4351

02-25-10, 17:50

Please keep a VERY LOW PROFILE and be careful who you give detailed location information.

Sanchi Panki

03-02-10, 12:27

Just to know. How did you do with electricity/light? I mean there are yet no more problem with that?

BadBear2000

03-03-10, 00:41

We are keeping a very low profile. Also, we have a generator and a 6KVW Inverter. Unfortunately there is no Company electrical power out here but we can handle it. At nights, it gets cool enough with the breeze off the ocean that you will need to cover up and turn the fans off. During the day, you just stay out of the sun unless you like it. The beach is about 200 yards down a rugged hillside and the water is great. When you sit outside on the patios, you will feel like you are close to heaven. It is great.[

QUOTE=Sanchi Panki]Just to know. How did you do with electricity/light? I mean there are yet no more problem with that?[/QUOTE]

BadBear2000

03-10-10, 15:22

Any reservations held by a deposit before April 1 will be honored even if you do not come until December. But as of April 1 there will be a new pricing structure that will be according to the room you get. The Penthouse will $150 and the Next room will be $125. Still working on the pricing of the other rooms. Do not get me wrong, all are as good or better than the old mansion. If you are one that was given a free stay because of a contest or something you did beyond the call of duty, you will get that night free regardless.

Just want to keep you guys up to date on our new house in Haiti. It is much larger than the old mansion and much nicer. I know the guys that have come to the mansion in the past wonder how that can be. The beds are better, view of the ocean and the mountains, and the seclusion lets our guest sleep better, make as much noise as possible without disturbing the neighbors, and what can be better than a swim in the ocean. Our rooms vary from 2 rooms sharing a bath with a private hallway between the two rooms and bath to the penthouse which can include an entire floor with a beautiful view of the ocean and mountains. With it comes a kingsize bed, a private bath, refrig in the room, balcony attached to the bedroom, and access to 2 other large balconies with views of the ocean and mountains. We have had requests from people to rent this on a monthly basis but we feel it is too valuable to let it go like that.

Of course at this time we are still sticking to our $85 a night with breakfast and dinner. We will continue this for a month or two. The rooms will be given in the order they are reserved. We have many people talking about coming from the 13th of March thru April. During the period following the earhquake, we were allowing people to stay at the mansion for nothing. All they had to do was furnish food and fuel for the vehicle to drive them around. All things come to an end. If you are coming with a help group, they will provide you with free room and board as long as you are out helping the needy. We were a part of that but at this time, the food and water distribution has been taken care of by the many help groups.

We are now taking reservations starting with March 10th. There must be a deposit as in the past we have experienced a few guys making reservations and then being no shows.

The rooms will be reserved in the following manner:

1. Penthouse
2. Second floor private bath
3. Second floor with shared bath and balcony with view of the ocean
4. Second floor with shared bath and view of the mountain
5. First floor with shared bath and view of the ocean
6. First floor with shared bath and view of the mountain.

Keep in mind that all rooms have access to the third floor balcony which are very large with a beautiful view of the ocean and mountains.

I can tell you that within the near future the penthouse will rent for a minimum of $150 per night.

If there is not enough guests at the time of your visit and you have choices 3,4,5,and 6, you will have a private bath as you will be able to close the hallway door making it private to your room. Also, if you come with a monger buddy, most of you do not mind sharing a bath with them.

We will start having BBQs on Sunday and Saturday.

Come and have fun

Helpmann

03-10-10, 16:07

We are keeping a very low profile...I bet you guys are keeping a low profile. Half the world's news media has been focused on the tens of thousands that died in Port-au-Prince. There have to be dozens of journalists who would love to lead the world's headlines with the story "American Sex Tourists Caught Soliciting the Victims of the Haiti Earthquake."

Good Luck!
Helpmann :rolleyes:

Bottom Feeder

05-13-10, 16:17

I got to the airport 1. 5 hours late and after a little confusion (my fault as I kept my info from the internet, and there ain't no internet at the airport) BB picked me up and we went to dinner and my brand new squeeze. Guerdine. Back to the mansion after a drive through the trolling zone (girls eveywhere) and after a shower down to bed with G. Fun fun with a sweet young thing. Great bbj etc. Woke up to the most fantastic view of PP bay My God, will my willie hold up. Now I'm off to get a phone, change $. BB is a real story teller and good guide.

BadBear2000

05-14-10, 10:25

I need to get one thing straight. I do not solicit anything but a great place to stay which you guys go on the hunt. I invite babes to come to the house but in no way are involved with money for sex. In other words. I am not a pimp.
what I do is what any night club on lady's night does and that is make the place appealing to the girls to come. What happens after that is out of my hands

I bet you guys are keeping a low profile. Half the world's news media has been focused on the tens of thousands that died in Port-au-Prince. There have to be dozens of journalists who would love to lead the world's headlines with the story "American Sex Tourists Caught Soliciting the Victims of the Haiti Earthquake."

Good Luck!
Helpmann :rolleyes:

Red Rex

05-14-10, 20:55

there doesn't appear to be much infra-structure for any kind of tourism in haiti (byo tent, food and bicycle), compared with some of its more illustrious caribbean neighbours....resorts, beautiful beaches etc. badbear is filling a large gap.

haitians have perhaps inherited the easy-going, uninhibited open and direct sexual mores from their african and french antecedents. therefore 'sex tourism' might mean absolutely nothing to them, something completely harmless. indeed they might regard it as a benefit, financial and otherwise. as long as it's not internationally unacceptable ****phelia, of course.

they might feel it is much more harmless than the general crime rate for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), female abuse, child abuse etcetc is low. the crime rate in general is low, crimes of violence etc. so a foreigner can feel relatively safe walking/traveling around haiti.

these are all questions really so perhaps someone could enlighten us. i'm guessing there are probably no statistics or suchlike on the above, or generally reported reliable information...newspapers etc.
what is the age of consent? and is this strictly adhered to?
apologies if this has all been covered before.

bythe way, bad bear, i found your website easily by googling 'the mansion haiti'. there doesn't appear to be any restriction on having your own 'mansion' thread, as greg and albert have had for their establishments on the columbian board.

Red Rex

05-14-10, 21:51

Crime in Haiti looks a bit grim, as per U.S. govt travel warnings, on this site anyway: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1134.html

Not exactly a place for a lovely picnic by the waterfall, a walk in the bush, a wander around the boulevardes...at least not without an armed guard!
Kidnapping looks rife. Not much help if anything does go wrong, a place for the intrepid traveller only.

BadBear2000

05-15-10, 19:57

This is all BS created by the UN, NGOs, and help groups that want to keep staying here at the tax payer's expense. I walk everywhere with my guests and they can vouch there is no security problem here in Haiti. I feel much safer here than in the Dominican Republic or any city in the USA. The UN, NGO's, and help groups hang out at the beach resorts near my house. Real rough life they are experiencing here. They drive around in their $80, 000 automobiles pissing the Haitian population off. If they were a truly violent people, they would be attacking these people but all they do is complain and live on.

Crime in Haiti looks a bit grim, as per U.S. govt travel warnings, on this site anyway: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1134.html

Not exactly a place for a lovely picnic by the waterfall, a walk in the bush, a wander around the boulevardes...at least not without an armed guard!
Kidnapping looks rife. Not much help if anything does go wrong, a place for the intrepid traveller only.

BadBear2000

05-15-10, 20:09

if any of you want to discuss how life is in haiti, just pm me and i will give you a detailed description of why i love this country

there doesn't appear to be much infra-structure for any kind of tourism in haiti (byo tent, food and bicycle), compared with some of its more illustrious caribbean neighbours....resorts, beautiful beaches etc. badbear is filling a large gap.

it is the lack of organized tourist mongers that make haiti great. because of this lack of money suckers in the tourism business, it has kept haiti as the last frontier for sex mongers

haitians have perhaps inherited the easy-going, uninhibited open and direct sexual mores from their african and french antecedents. therefore 'sex tourism' might mean absolutely nothing to them, something completely harmless. indeed they might regard it as a benefit, financial and otherwise. as long as it's not internationally unacceptable ****phelia, of course.

this is exactly what makes it great. they think no more about having sex than most people think of holding hands or kissing

they might feel it is much more harmless than the general crime rate for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), female abuse, child abuse etcetc is low. the crime rate in general is low, crimes of violence etc. so a foreigner can feel relatively safe walking/traveling around haiti.

i have almost been had 3 times in the dr. this has never happened to me in haiti

these are all questions really so perhaps someone could enlighten us. i'm guessing there are probably no statistics or suchlike on the above, or generally reported reliable information...newspapers etc.
what is the age of consent? and is this strictly adhered to?
apologies if this has all been covered before.

in haiti, everybody knows what is going on in haiti. if there was all these so called kidnappings going on, i would know about it. i have friends that call me and tell me when anything is going on and mostly there demonstrations against cost of food, fuel shortages, and etc much like there are anywhere in the world when these problems exist.

bythe way, bad bear, i found your website easily by googling 'the mansion haiti'. there doesn't appear to be any restriction on having your own 'mansion' thread, as greg and albert have had for their establishments on the columbian board.

BootyLover

05-16-10, 00:37

BB, please understand that they have to make a living.

This is all BS created by the UN, NGOs, and help groups that want to keep staying here at the tax payer's expense. I walk everywhere with my guests and they can vouch there is no security problem here in Haiti. I feel much safer here than in the Dominican Republic or any city in the USA. The UN, NGO's, and help groups hang out at the beach resorts near my house. Real rough life they are experiencing here. They drive around in their $80, 000 automobiles pissing the Haitian population off. If they were a truly violent people, they would be attacking these people but all they do is complain and live on.

BadBear2000

05-16-10, 02:33

BootyLover, you also have the picture

BB, please understand that they have to make a living.

La Isla

05-16-10, 03:41

if you read all that stuff, you'll never go anywhere. I do admit though that PAP was one of those places that I had severe trepidation about visiting. My first time was by myself, without knowing anyone. I was in the DR and decided that I had to do it, and if I die....I die. Such is fate.

However, having been to Haiti several times now, I can tell you that I feel as safe there as in anywhere in the world. Of course, common sense should prevail there, as in ANY city anywhere.

The Haitian people are very calm, helpful and decent people. I have fallen in love with Haiti and plan to go back often. Their resilience is awe inspiring. If you EVER think your life is tough, go visit Haiti. You'll come back grateful for the life you do have and a newfound respect for the tenacity of the human spirit.

Haiti gets alot of undeserved bad publicity. The Haitian people need, and deserve, a hand up from all of us. The world should be told about the love, the sense of community and pride that they share among themselves and extend to foreigners. The press needs to lay off them.

If the press and foreign governments REALLY want to help Haiti, then help them shed the corrupt politicians and wealthy families who steal everything, and give them a functioning government "of the people, for the people, by the people".

Don't be afraid to visit Haiti. Only a heartless, souless person can visit Haiti and not return a better person for it.

** By the way, I did meet Badbear on my third trip to Haiti and he is the real deal. If you have any trepidation about visiting Haiti the first time, I highly suggest staying with BB.

Crime in Haiti looks a bit grim, as per U.S. govt travel warnings, on this site anyway: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1134.html

Not exactly a place for a lovely picnic by the waterfall, a walk in the bush, a wander around the boulevardes...at least not without an armed guard!
Kidnapping looks rife. Not much help if anything does go wrong, a place for the intrepid traveller only.

Helpmann

05-16-10, 11:51

...I invite babes to come to the house but in no way are involved with money for sex. In other words. I am not a pimp...Now, I really don't trust you.

-Helpmann :rolleyes:

BadBear2000

05-16-10, 23:52

A man or woman who solicits women for sex for money. Since I do not make money from the girls, I guess that means I am not a pimp. To be quite honest with you my friend, since I don't know you I really do not care if you trust me or not. Now, if any of the guys I have met here were to say they did not trust me after their visits, I would really be upset.

Have a nice day!!!!

Now, I really don't trust you.

-Helpmann :rolleyes:

BadBear2000

05-19-10, 22:08

i tried to send this as a text message to amigo of king but since he blocks his test messages, i decided to post it:

i use to work for the sugar company here many years ago and found many good friends here. 10 years ago my mother died of stomach cancer. 9 years ago on the 17th of may i went under the knife of a very good friend and doctor. i was dying of intestinal cancer but was being treated for acid reflux by our wonderful doctors in the u.s. it was not until 2 months later that i knew i had cancer when my ex-wife who is dominican took the body parts my haitian doctor friend had removed from my large and small intestines. my doctor only knew there was something there that should not be there and took everything out that looked bad. thank goodness for that. i owe haiti my life. i am trying to get a plantation going that has been setting there for years. i do not have the money to do it properly. believe me, if i was here to get rich, i would have gone to the beach property that i own in nagua, dominican republic and started a very good money making business there. when i bring these guys here, there are many that come for more reasons that to screw. some are doctors, some are marine biologists, some are agronomists, some are investors. i am trying to do something that will stimulate the economy and help haiti grow its own food and stop depending on the other countries to support them. i know the land here very well and know it will grow anything if it has water. unfortunately at 63 years old it is difficult for me to depend on my ex job abilities since it involved climbing towers, roof tops, and working all day in the hot sun. so i chose something that would be easier, bring income to families that may not eat tonight, and perhaps find the right investor that will back my real desire and that is agriculture. i grew up on a farm so i do know that business.

what i do not understand is :why you would be on this sight unless you are a monger. and if you are a monger why have you decided to go after me. i mean there are real pimps out there like black beards in the dr, or the one in columbia. basically what i do is like a night club that offers lady's nights with free drinks. do you think the owner is a pimp because it is apparent the guys go there to screw these poor innocent girls or am i wrong.

amigo of king, i think you are a fake monger

and there are no girls under 18 allowed at my house

if you profit by renting your rooms and you invite the woman over knowing the purpose of their visits you are a pimp. since the primary reason for the men renting your rooms is to find prostitutes and you do reap rewards although not directly it does not change the fact that your a pimp. by the the way that is one of the lowest forms of life next to child molesters. and if any of the girls are **** you are also a child molester.

Sawassdee

05-20-10, 00:19

if you profit by renting your rooms and you invite the woman over knowing the purpose of their visits you are a pimp. since the primary reason for the men renting your rooms is to find prostitutes and you do reap rewards although not directly it does not change the fact that your a pimp. by the the way that is one of the lowest forms of life next to child molesters. and if any of the girls are **** you are also a child molester.a pimp is a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return.

first hand knowledge: i ve visited the mansion and witnessed the full operation for roughly two weeks and in no way is badbear a pimp. lol! rotflmao at the image of bb even attempting! "*****, where's my half of that free bikini and sandwich! "

bb2k is a trustworthy man with one girlfriend who provides clean, reliable accomodations and his knowledge of haiti to us fellow mongerers.

2. additionally while he is out showing you haiti he will translate (for those who do not speak creole or french) your intrest in getting to know ***unknown*** females of your choice by inviting them to the mansion for you or to party in the pool. what happens from that point is between you and (her or them).

3. yes, there are regulars. girls who enjoy the comforts from time to time of the mansion. most are close relatives and friends of his wife while the other girls are (bebacks) invited over by fellow visitors in the past and still enjoy the pool and the parties hosted weekly.

both groups enjoy the beautiful dream mansion to hang out in whenever they desire while living in a practically 3rd world country. the fact that the do meet visiting men is irrelevent when 98% have no fee for their company. these women will barely talk to you as much as look or bother you. if you're interested you better approach and have some game because they will turn you down. and that is only between you and them. not bb2k.

the gifts if a visitor desires to give to any young lady known or unknown ranges from dinner, alchohol, bikinnis a free mansion to crash in overnite or longer, etc. and or various amounts of small cash to do whatever they desire.

i'm far from naive. lets give a good man and great fellow mongerer a break and thank him for helping many of us to get laid safely in a place few of us would have ever visited on our own, and for breathing life into this thread.

Charles Pooter

05-20-10, 02:09

I think Amigo of King has a valid point but, by his logic, all the restauranteurs who serve the mongers and their girls, all the taxi drivers they use, the airlines who fly them to Haïti, the DR and other monger destinations, the governments who derive tax income from their expenditure, the churches and charities who ask for, and accept, donations from them, etc, etc, are all pimps.

In the global capitalist system in which we all live it is difficult to single out individuals or entities as being either guilty or blameless whether you are talking about the arms trade, inadequate wage levels, child labor, the sex trade or any other controversial issue.

Also, I would hope we all condemn under-age sex on this site and it is often an indicator of a weak case when politicians, religious bigots, the media, etc, have to introduce it to bolster their arguments against "normal" mongering.

Ayyyypapi

05-20-10, 03:06

La Isla

05-20-10, 03:50

BadBear
Don't try to rationalize with irrational people. There are plenty of morons on this board who have nothing better to do in life except to make stupid comments.

Cunning Linguist

05-20-10, 11:28

BadBear
Don't try to rationalize with irrational people. There are plenty of morons on this board who have nothing better to do in life except to make stupid comments.

There are trolls who have pointless, meaningless lives who get off on vexing others, for example, on this thread. I, for one, can say that I know Bad Bear, have stayed with him, and know that he is the real McCoy. He really does care about Haiti and knows an awful lot about it. Helpmann should know that he can be trusted.

Amigo of King

05-20-10, 14:13

Gentleman Travel

05-20-10, 16:01

I have an announcement. Number 6 was the maid in the last few photo posts. I just could not keep my eyes or hands off that beautiful ass for long...

Anyway, getting to Marina. She has found a guy and I cannot believe what has happened. I will not call out his name but he is a member here. Marina has stopped smoking, appears to me to be totally dedicated to this guy, and he is the same with her...
Is that Marina of "Marina and Guerdine" duo fame?
Pity if she is off the market, as I was hoping to indulge in her delights (or both of them) on my upcoming trip!
And the maid - I heard she was hot as well! I hope there will still be some hotties left when I get there!

Ayyyypapi

05-20-10, 16:43

I have an announcement. Number 6 was the maid in the last few photo posts. I just could not keep my eyes or hands off that beautiful ass for long. As for number 5 she is off in the DR working with her cousin. She keeps sending me emails telling me how she misses me and loves me and wants to be back with me but I just couldn't keep her off the internet giving guys our her telephone and them calling in the middle of the night from all over the world. At one point when I took her sim card out of her phone to try in mine because she told me her phone wasn't working after I walked in and caught her talking on it, she actually grabbed it and put it in her mouth and bit it to keep me from seeing the messages on it. They had to be bad. But Ayyyypapi warned me and I would have saved myself 8 months of mongering time. Anyway, getting to Marina. She has found a guy and I cannot believe what has happened. I will not call out his name but he is a member here. Marina has stopped smoking, appears to me to be totally dedicated to this guy, and he is the same with her. Trust me, this guy is no amateur so he is not blind. But me looking from the outside in has boggled my mind. I think after his first trip she thought he was just another American promising all kinds of crap just to get what he wanted. But after numerous calls and the second trip, she is seeing the light. And I must say, I am so happy for her because she has one of the sweetest personalities you will ever C. And that says nothing for how beautiful and sexy she is. Ayyyypapi, see what you created. You have to take the credit for this one as I only fertilized what you planted.

I want to thank all of you guys for your support. I am working on a house back in Petionville that has 19 bedrooms and 15 baths. It has parking for 10 automobiles. It does not have a pool but we will probably get one installed. I will see it next week as I am preparing to go to the DR today. I will be going to Nagua and plan to get over and visit Ayyyypapi. For any of you wanting to meet up with Badbear the pimp, he want be there but Badbear2000 the match maker will be, so drop me a PM and I will try to catch up with you while I am there.Lookng forward to your visit BB. Its' off the f_king hook here but it takes alot of energy just to keep it under control. If chicks ask for money arond the discosI just invite them to sit down and eat and before you know it I'm sitting with about 8 beautiful Haitanas. But I miss Haiti and will be back for sure.

Ayyyypapi

05-20-10, 16:48

Is that Marina or "Marina and Guerdine" duo fame?
Pity if she is off the market, as I was hoping to indulge in her delights (or both of them) on my upcoming trip!

And the maid - I heard she was hot as well! I hope there will still be some hotties left when I get there!Gueritine is way smokin' hot and highly recommended. Passive (lesbo bottom). Marina (was) intense. Aggressive (lesbo top). It;s funny how Marina would get Gueritine all jealous just hugging another girl.

Blue Vette

05-20-10, 20:12

So BB, nr 5 is gone now? Well, I was going to bring more school suppies for the orphanage but I guess I can save myself the trouble now. I look forward to seeing the girls in July.

I hope on my next visit to find one who is abundantly top-heavy!

BootyLover

05-20-10, 20:30

Charles Pooter

05-20-10, 22:32

I understand the point we can condemn all business in some way but when your sole objective is to furnish a place with one primary purpose you are much more culpable. I have fond a way not only to make a profit down there but also empower single woman to help themselves. I import various items that are needed there. I have a network of woman that I give these goods on consignment. When they sell what they have they than can buy more goods from me. I never ask for payment of the order they take as I consider it a cost of doing business. This not only makes me a profit as I am a capitalist but helps these woman in an honorable fashion.
Good for you. More of that is needed. Is this in Haïti?

But you are pissing against the wind coming on here and attacking BadBear. There are real pimps and people traffickers who do deserve your condemnation but I guess they would not be as gentlemanly and restrained in their response to you.

Jtdbusiness

05-21-10, 06:06

Lookng forward to your visit BB. Its' off the f_king hook here but it takes alot of energy just to keep it under control. If chicks ask for money arond the discosI just invite them to sit down and eat and before you know it I'm sitting with about 8 beautiful Haitanas. But I miss Haiti and will be back for sure.This is my first post. And I flew back into Haiti yesterday. Just two weeks after my first trip to visit BBear.

I returned to Haiti for a few reasons:

1. An incredible woman, who I met through BBear. The matchmaker. BBear was the ultimate matchmaker for me. He introduced me to this woman (Marina) who I came back for. And may well ultimately move here for. I am far from naive, and time will tell, but so far she has turned out to be a passionate, loving, fun, and GENUINE woman

2. BBear was an awesome host and tour guide. Giving great practical advice, taking time to help me see the sights, explaining how things work, translating, etc.

3. Beyond the specific people at hand, Haiti is a beautiful country with warm friendly people. And absolutely stunning women. Who know how to truly love a man. Meaning keep him happy in bed, through cooking, as a cool activity partner, and much more. And showing true affection without it being all about the money.

4. MY woman is friends with his woman, and we all hang together which is almost like family.

BBear was also never focused on money. He's incredibly generous with his guests, turned down many times when I offered to pay, and his highest priority seems to be that his guests have a wonderful time. He really is the ultimate tour guide. Helping new visitors get an insiders view of the country he truly loves and means so much to him. He makes little (if any at times) money off the guests, and makes absolutely no money off the girls.

For me BBear is a terrific guide, awesome matchmaker, and friend. He also may end up being a strong business partner, as we have been working through a couple very promising business opportunities. My hope is that we can bring one of them to life. So that I might move to Haiti permanently with my woman (Marina) and my biz partner (BBear).

The Mansion Experience is NOT for everyone. If you're a monger who needs to walk out the front door to woman after woman. You will be disappointed. This isn't DR, Thailand, or Philippines. Moreover, the Mansion doesn't have a pool (but does have a quiet private beach). And not an extensive number of luxury creature comforts (but great layout, esp Penthouse) But if you want to be around a few select gorgeous woman, and around someone who extends friendship. Then BBear's Mansion Experience is awesome!

The selfish part of me is concerned about encouraging people to visit. Because I would hate for a flood of people to change ANYTHING about the experience. But as a friend, I feel obliged to share the news of the Mansion, because BBear deserves the business. And every success which he has earned with honesty, hard work, integrity, and fairness/caring to those around him.

This is my first post, and hope it's helpful.

BionicMan

05-21-10, 10:20

I think Amigo of King has a valid point but, by his logic, .....Let me say that by his logic the guy should not browse this forum: period!
Unless he wants to be against the purpose of the forum itself, but should not be against a single person when there are - according to his logic - a few other tens or hundreds (in ISG), to say the least, being possible targets.
Then he should troll on every single thread of ISG and more.
I am not planning to enter in a debate on this matter but simply wanted to express an opinion, ie. starts and end with this post. Otherwise we go off topic by miles!

BionicMan

05-21-10, 10:26

There are trolls who have pointless, meaningless lives who get off on vexing others, for example, on this thread. I, for one, can say that I know Bad Bear, have stayed with him, and know that he is the real McCoy. He really does care about Haiti and knows an awful lot about it. Helpmann should know that he can be trusted.

Just by reading this forum on Haiti and reading what BB did in the recent bad days/weeks of the earthquake, is a sign of great good will and love for the country and for the people there, regardless of anything else.
I have never been to Haiti, probably I would never go, but by reading BB and also other indipendent contributions of others having truly visited the mansion I can only say that the place is the palce to be and not only for laying girls! That is a "plus", nothing more.
Take care, BB :)

BadBear2000

05-21-10, 12:54

She is still very active with the school and I am sure would appreciate any help the school can get. I will be talking to her during my brief stay here and let her know if you want and she can meet up with you for the goodies.

So BB, nr 5 is gone now? Well, I was going to bring more school suppies for the orphanage but I guess I can save myself the trouble now. I look forward to seeing the girls in July.

I hope on my next visit to find one who is abundantly top-heavy!

Arainmain

05-21-10, 18:13

Good luck to Marina and her new man. She is indeed a very nice person, and a very good lover (had one nice encounter back in July). Hope this goes true beyond desire and sex, consider cultural, social differences and needs, and not play with it. When building long lasting relations, love and respect are essential. I love medam ayisen tout net.

Indian1

05-21-10, 22:27

Amigo King, you are a looser and spoiler.

Bad bear, please don't pay attention to this guy.

As far I am concered bad bear is true to his work and mission, he is helping us in a foreign land and giving us fruits of his labour, please do not leave Haiti.

Cheer Bear and carry on, we are with you my friend.

Amigo of King

05-22-10, 13:00

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Gentleman Travel

06-16-10, 22:12

Just got back from a week in Haiti, most evenings spent at the Creole Mansion. I was working most days, so only had a little time to spend with the girls each evening.

I asked BB to set me up with Guerdine, based on photos and reviews here and he certainly came through.

Guerdine and a new girl (Ruth) showed up shortly after I arrived and was drinking beer out on the front porch. I thought I had gone to heaven. Guerdine has been described by others here as "smoking hot" and she is. She appeared in a sexy body-hugging blue dress and a big smile. She is certainly the cutest girl I saw there and very fun-loving, sitting on my lap, kissing, fondling, etc. A real GFE, except for the language barrier. She speaks some English, but not much.

The gang (four guys, four girls) went out for a late night beach party and the girls could not get enough of bouncing around and shaking their booties. Actually it got a little tiring.

When we returned it was a quick trip upstairs and getting down to business. Unfortunately Guerdine is one of those girls who look better with some clothes on - she has saggy tits, which look great bundled up in a biking top, but are very disappointing when exposed to sight. Her BJ skills were adequate but actual fucking mediocre - she is very boney (the down side of being so skinny) and not everything was comfortable. And she was mostly looking away during these performances. Still, finished nicely in her mouth and had another round in the morning.

Despite my disappointment I asked her to stay another day both because I knew it was far for her to come out the the Mansion and because I did not have time to go mongering myself - so a bird in the bed is worth two in the street. Second round was more disappointing, despite the fact that she was trying harder (I guess she sensed my disappointment with the first night and realized that being young and hot was not enough, she had to give good service too!) - looking into my eyes during the act and initiating an early morning BJ. Maybe it was the heat or fatigue or the fact that I knew what lay beneath that bikini-top. But when the machinery is working fine, but there is no happy ending, then something is wrong, probably on the emotional side. So I dismissed her and spent the next evening loveless, again because I just did not have the time to chase down another girl.

Went off to Jacmel for a couple of days and don't really have anything to report about mongering there - simply did not have a chance to go fishing. Returned late the next night - too late to get anything lined up, so suffered through three nights without sex in Haiti! Truly a humanitarian disaster of epic proportions!

So I asked BB's girl (much of this time our host had decamped to DR to take care of some business there, kindly leaving me use of his SUV and driver) to set me up with Ruth - the new girl who had come with Guerdine the first night, but had serviced some other gentleman. Interestingly, she showed up the second night also, completely on spec since her paramour had moved on. I had fantasties of having her and Guertine together, but was too tired to properly use one girl, let alone two. However, the point is that after one visit to the Mansion, during which she had looked somewhat hesitant, she quickly got into the idea and I guess figured that even a night of relative luxury (relative to her circumstances, the Mansion is not luxurious by our standards) with the prospect of a paying gig was worth the investment of her time in a two hour tap-tap ride. I am sure she did not get one.

Anyway, I ordered her in the next night and ran her through the paces. Almost as cute as Guerdine but with better tits, but unfortunately less English (i.e virtually none). Cooperative enough on sex, but a bit girlish, breaking off a blow job just when things were getting exciting, to make funny faces or change positions. Anyway, we managed to have some fun, but again somewhat diminished by her lack of language skills and lack of experience with guys like me. But I had brought along a toy which was a completely new experience for her, I am sure, so we managed to have some fun anyway.

Again, I asked her to stay a second night because it just was not practical to go hunting and I did not want to risk another sexless night. The second night was a repeat of the first, managed a couple of rounds of adequate sex plus a sunset BJ on the balcony. It took a little work to get her into the open air BJ, as she was a bit shy, but I wasn't going to take any crap from her - I know what I like even if she hasn't the experience to figure that out yet. Both mornings she was pretty sleepy and unresponsive to early morning overtures, which also pissed me off a bit. She should be all over me, not me having to do all the heavy lifting.

Still, Ruth was a very cute girl, adequate in bed, and may learn what she needs to do to please guys like us.

That's pretty much it for my experience, other than to say the rooms are nice and large and have nice balconies - mine had a great ocean view. The days and nights are hot as hell and humid. Haiti is not for the faint of heart -the poverty and squalor and chaos of Port-au-Prince are depressing. But of course those are also the factors that draw young beauties to the Mansion to be fucked by middle-aged foreigners for not much money. Or not fucked, as several girls who showed up my last night and hung around for a few hours, then went home loveless, discovered. I already had Ruth installed in my bedroom and none of these girls could compete with her, and BB had #6, and the only other guy was just not buying, I guess.

So my experience was kind of mixed. Sure, girls were available and willing and had some nice attributes. But my fantasies of nookie heaven simply did not come true - for various reasons, some my fault and some the girls' fault.

Things should be somewhat diffent when the Mansion relocates from its present location which, while having many nice attributes (particularly the ocean), is pretty far from PaP and thus complicated to get girls to and from easily. If the new location comes to fruition, it will be much more likely to have a flow of girls in and out, giving more selection and bargaining power to the gentlemen. It is not perfectly located either (the roads are brutal) but then perfection is not really a concept you should be looking for in Haiti.

If you have some French language skills (mine are minimal) you could have some real fun with the girls. If you are happy with a fuck bunny for mechanical sex and no communications, then you will do fine. But if you need to build a connection with your sex partner, or simply want to spend more time with her during the day, and lack language skills, it may be hard to find a suitable girl.

Cheers,

GT

BadBear2000

06-17-10, 14:48

I have picked up girls in Haiti in the past and thought they were the best I ever had, then the next time they were the worst I ever had. I have picked up girls and thought to myself, I could have done just as good with minnie five fingers and then just out of curiosity tried the same girl again and she would be awesome. I think it all depends on how you approach the girl or what you mind is on at the time. The big difference in Haiti is they are capable of being your girlfriend for a day or a week or longer. If you have your mind fully on your job as the Gentlemen Traveler did while he was here it makes it difficult. He was actually worn out from riding through the rough streets of Haiti to really relax at night. This is one reason why I like it out be cause you do not have to put up with the crazy driving in the city. If everything goes with what we are planning we may have 2 places. One in the city and one at the beach but right on the beach where you can skinny dip with your babe at nights. There will also be a salt water pool for the pussys who are afraid of the big bad sea.

No seriously, when I would come to Haiti on a contract, I had good nights but too many times I had bad nights because I just could not get in the mood. If you are not in the mood then it is very difficult to get your babe in the mood.

Now, this is just my opinion and you know what they say. It is just like A-holes, everybody has one.

GT, when you come back, I will have more time to concentrate on your needs. Sorry I had to disappear for a few days. But when you return, I plan to get your brains f _ _ ked out

La Isla

06-19-10, 03:44

A good, honest report. Sometimes things click, sometimes they don't. C'est la vie. Language skills, even basic ones, work wonders no matter where you go.
I'll see if I can find some good Creole> English and (visa versa) things to post.

In the meantime, if you have an iPhone, do an App search for "Byki Haitian Creole" and download it. Start there. It's free :)

Also, get "Pimsleur Haitian Creole" CD set. You can get it at Barnes and Noble or Amazon.com. Its about $35 and well worth it!

Search "How to speak Haitian Creole" on YouTube and you'll find stuff there too.

Allez!! Don't expect the whole world to speak English....

Just got back from a week in Haiti, most evenings spent at the Creole Mansion. I was working most days, so only had a little time to spend with the girls each evening.

I asked BB to set me up with Guerdine, based on photos and reviews here and he certainly came through.

Guerdine and a new girl (Ruth) showed up shortly after I arrived and was drinking beer out on the front porch. I thought I had gone to heaven. Guerdine has been described by others here as "smoking hot" and she is. She appeared in a sexy body-hugging blue dress and a big smile. She is certainly the cutest girl I saw there and very fun-loving, sitting on my lap, kissing, fondling, etc. A real GFE, except for the language barrier. She speaks some English, but not much.

The gang (four guys, four girls) went out for a late night beach party and the girls could not get enough of bouncing around and shaking their booties. Actually it got a little tiring.

When we returned it was a quick trip upstairs and getting down to business. Unfortunately Guerdine is one of those girls who look better with some clothes on - she has saggy tits, which look great bundled up in a biking top, but are very disappointing when exposed to sight. Her BJ skills were adequate but actual fucking mediocre - she is very boney (the down side of being so skinny) and not everything was comfortable. And she was mostly looking away during these performances. Still, finished nicely in her mouth and had another round in the morning.

Despite my disappointment I asked her to stay another day both because I knew it was far for her to come out the the Mansion and because I did not have time to go mongering myself - so a bird in the bed is worth two in the street. Second round was more disappointing, despite the fact that she was trying harder (I guess she sensed my disappointment with the first night and realized that being young and hot was not enough, she had to give good service too!) - looking into my eyes during the act and initiating an early morning BJ. Maybe it was the heat or fatigue or the fact that I knew what lay beneath that bikini-top. But when the machinery is working fine, but there is no happy ending, then something is wrong, probably on the emotional side. So I dismissed her and spent the next evening loveless, again because I just did not have the time to chase down another girl.

Went off to Jacmel for a couple of days and don't really have anything to report about mongering there - simply did not have a chance to go fishing. Returned late the next night - too late to get anything lined up, so suffered through three nights without sex in Haiti! Truly a humanitarian disaster of epic proportions!

So I asked BB's girl (much of this time our host had decamped to DR to take care of some business there, kindly leaving me use of his SUV and driver) to set me up with Ruth - the new girl who had come with Guerdine the first night, but had serviced some other gentleman. Interestingly, she showed up the second night also, completely on spec since her paramour had moved on. I had fantasties of having her and Guertine together, but was too tired to properly use one girl, let alone two. However, the point is that after one visit to the Mansion, during which she had looked somewhat hesitant, she quickly got into the idea and I guess figured that even a night of relative luxury (relative to her circumstances, the Mansion is not luxurious by our standards) with the prospect of a paying gig was worth the investment of her time in a two hour tap-tap ride. I am sure she did not get one.

Anyway, I ordered her in the next night and ran her through the paces. Almost as cute as Guerdine but with better tits, but unfortunately less English (i.e virtually none). Cooperative enough on sex, but a bit girlish, breaking off a blow job just when things were getting exciting, to make funny faces or change positions. Anyway, we managed to have some fun, but again somewhat diminished by her lack of language skills and lack of experience with guys like me. But I had brought along a toy which was a completely new experience for her, I am sure, so we managed to have some fun anyway.

Again, I asked her to stay a second night because it just was not practical to go hunting and I did not want to risk another sexless night. The second night was a repeat of the first, managed a couple of rounds of adequate sex plus a sunset BJ on the balcony. It took a little work to get her into the open air BJ, as she was a bit shy, but I wasn't going to take any crap from her - I know what I like even if she hasn't the experience to figure that out yet. Both mornings she was pretty sleepy and unresponsive to early morning overtures, which also pissed me off a bit. She should be all over me, not me having to do all the heavy lifting.

Still, Ruth was a very cute girl, adequate in bed, and may learn what she needs to do to please guys like us.

That's pretty much it for my experience, other than to say the rooms are nice and large and have nice balconies - mine had a great ocean view. The days and nights are hot as hell and humid. Haiti is not for the faint of heart -the poverty and squalor and chaos of Port-au-Prince are depressing. But of course those are also the factors that draw young beauties to the Mansion to be fucked by middle-aged foreigners for not much money. Or not fucked, as several girls who showed up my last night and hung around for a few hours, then went home loveless, discovered. I already had Ruth installed in my bedroom and none of these girls could compete with her, and BB had #6, and the only other guy was just not buying, I guess.

So my experience was kind of mixed. Sure, girls were available and willing and had some nice attributes. But my fantasies of nookie heaven simply did not come true - for various reasons, some my fault and some the girls' fault.

Things should be somewhat diffent when the Mansion relocates from its present location which, while having many nice attributes (particularly the ocean), is pretty far from PaP and thus complicated to get girls to and from easily. If the new location comes to fruition, it will be much more likely to have a flow of girls in and out, giving more selection and bargaining power to the gentlemen. It is not perfectly located either (the roads are brutal) but then perfection is not really a concept you should be looking for in Haiti.

If you have some French language skills (mine are minimal) you could have some real fun with the girls. If you are happy with a fuck bunny for mechanical sex and no communications, then you will do fine. But if you need to build a connection with your sex partner, or simply want to spend more time with her during the day, and lack language skills, it may be hard to find a suitable girl.

Cheers,

GT

La Isla

06-20-10, 02:53

here's a creole starter. see post below for more leads. you're welcome.... :)

creole - english
* * * * * * * * * * *
bonjou! - good morning!
bonswa! - good afternoon!/evening! (used after 11 am)
komon ou ye? - how are you?
n'ap boule! (most common greeting and response) - good!
wi - yes
yo - they, them
non - no
mesi - thanks
anmwe! - help!
non, mesi - no, thanks
souple - please
merite - you're welcome
pa gen pwoblem - no problem
oke - ok
eskize mwen - excuse me
mwen regret sa - i'm sorry
gen... - there is/are...
pa genyen! - there is/are not any!
mwen pa genyen! - i don't have any!
sekonsa! - that's right!
piti piti - a little bit
anpil - a lot
gen anpil... - there are a lot of...
isit - here
la - there
tout bagay anfom? - is everything ok?
pa kounye-a - not now
toupatou - everywhere
anyen - nothing
preske - almost
atansyon! - attention!/watch out!
prese prese! - hurry!
dife! - fire!
rete! - stop!
kounye-a - now
nou ap chache... - we are looking for...
souple, ban mwen... - please give me...
separe sa ant nou - divide this among you
ye - yesterday
jodia - today
demen - tomorrow
maten an - this morning
apremidi a - this afternoon
aswe a - this evening
lendi - monday
madi - tuesday
mekredi - wednesday
jedi - thursday
vandredi - friday
samdi - saturday
dimanch - sunday
ou byen? - you ok?
mwen pa two byen - i'm not too well
mwen malad - i'm sick
te gen yon aksidan - there was an accident
nou bezwen yon dokte/yon mis touswit - we need a doctor/a nurse right now
kote iopital ia? - where is the hospital?
kote ii ou fe mal? - where does it hurt you?
li ansent - she's pregnant
mwen pa ka manje/domi - i cannot eat/sleep
mwengendjare - i have diarrhea
mwen anvi vonmi - i feel nauseated
tout ko mwen cho - my whole body is hot
mwen toudi - i'm dizzy
nou bezwen pansman/koton - we need bandages/cotton
mwen bezwen yon bagay pi blese sa a - i need something for this cut
ou gen sida - you have aids
mwen grangou - i'm hungry
mwen swaf anpil - i'm very thirsty
nou ta vle manje - we would like to eat
konben - how much?/how many?
poukisa? - why?
kote? - where?
kisa? - what?
kile? - when?
ki moun? - who?
kijan? - how?
kiles? - which?
eske gen...? - is/are there...?
eske ou gen...? - do you have...?
eske ou ka ede nou, souple? - can you help us please?
kote nou ka achte...? - where can we buy...?
eske ou ka di mwen...? - can you tell me...?
montre - show
ban - give
ki moun ki ia? - who is there?
kisa ou vie? - what do you want?
kisa ou ta via? - what would you like?
kisa ou ap fe ia? - what are you doing there?
kisa sa a ye? - what is that?
sa k'genyen? - what's the matter?
kisa pi nou fe? - what must we do?
eske ou te we...? - have you seen...?
eske ou pale angle/franse? - do you speak english/french?
ki moun isit ki pale angle? - who speaks english here?
ou konprann? - you understand?
kij an yo rele sa an kreyol? - what do they call that increole?
kij an yo di...an kreyol? - how do they say... in creole?
kisa ou bezouen? - what do you need?
kisa ki rive ou? - what happened to you?
ki kote li ale? - where did he go?
kilaj ou? - how old are you?
kote ou rete? - where do you live?
eske ou gen petit? - do you have any children?
kote nou ye? - where are we?
genyen - to have
chita - to sit
manje - to eat
rete - to stop
kouri - to run
kouche - to lie down
vini - to come
ale/prale - to go
ban - to give
rete trankil - to be quiet
pran - to get, receive
leve - to get up
sede - to give up
touye - to kill
frape - to hit
kache - to hide
konnen - to know
manti - to lie (not truth)
gade - to look
koupe - to cut
kwit-manje, fe-manje - to cook
fimen - to smoke
atake - to attack
ban pemi - to authorize
kri - to shout, yell, scream
achte - to buy
fe-apel - to call, name
netwaye - to clean
femen - to close
fose - to coerce, force
fini - to finish
obeyi - to obey
fe - konfyans - to trust
console - to comfort
pati - to leave, depart
mouri - to die
fe-desen - to draw, sketch
bwe - to drink
tonbe - to drop, fall
mete abo - embark, load, board
atoure - to surround
ranfose - to enforce
ou - you, your
mwen - i, me, my, mine
nou - us, our, you (plural)
ii - him, her, his, hers * * * * * * * * * * * *
pronunciation guide
creole is written phonetically. each letter is pronounced, and each word is spelled as it is pronounced. creole has only been recognized as the official language of haiti in the last few years. therefore, there are many different ways in which the haitians write and spell creole words. there is an official standard that has been set, and this standard will be maintained in this publication. the following is a pronunciation guide using this standard; most of the sounds are french.

ch-share chache-to look for
o-claw fo-strong
e-aim ede-to aid, help
ou-you ou-you
e-leg mesi-thank you
r-(not rolled) respire-to breathe
g-go gen-to have
i-see isit-here
s-(always s) prese-in a hurry
j-(avoid the d sound) jou-day
y-yes pye-foot
o-toe zo-bone there are nasal sounds in creole just as there are nasal sounds in french, which are pronounced partially through the nose, but without the "n" itself pronounced (a rare exception to the general pronunciation rule of pronouncing every letter). some english equivalents which come close to the nasal sounds are as follows:

an-alms dan-tooth
en-chopin pen-bread
on-don't bon-good

a. when a nasal sound is followed by another "n", or "m," the nasal sound is pronounced, then the "n" or "m" is pronounced separately.
b. if an accent is placed over the vowel, there is no nasal sound.
c. in never indicates a nasal sound.
the letter c is only used in the ch combination.
the letter k is used for the hard sound.
the letter s is used for the soft sound.

Gentleman Travel

06-20-10, 21:08

Gentleman Travel

06-20-10, 21:20

Hey, I got the chance to get a look at Bad Bear's new location.

It's just great, a funky little place with natural air conditioning.

It already had a cool name and signage, so he will be going with that as part of the new identity and marketing plan. Check it out....

La Isla

06-21-10, 02:25

Maybe "CHEZ COCO" would be even better....

Hey, I got the chance to get a look at Bad Bear's new location.

It's just great, a funky little place with natural air conditioning.

It already had a cool name and signage, so he will be going with that as part of the new identity and marketing plan. Check it out....

La Isla

06-21-10, 02:30

When I say my French is minimal, I mean I cannot coduct a meaningful conversation in French. In fact I have some vocabulary and many stock phrases and can construct basic sentences and questions. But being able to tell a girl it is time to go to bed, or to take her clothes off, is not the same thing as being able to have a conversation. That is where the disconnect was, not in transfering basic information. So learning a set of stock phrases or vocabulary in Creole will not get me any further, except amongst girls who do not even speak French.

Well remember that not everyone speaks French in Haiti. Usually justthe educated ones. You can learn enough to have a polite conversation if you just study a little.

Learn 10-25 verbs first, especially the important ones like to be, to make, etc. Once you can conjugate a few verbs, and construct a basic sentence, the rest is just memorizing different words to plug in.

The truth about languages is that learning a new language is not tied into intelligence. Its just a part of the brain that works or it doesn't. I've known illiterate immigrants learn to speak near perfect English in 3 months. I also have very educated friends who can't learn more than 10 words of a language. Go figure...

Lorenzo

06-21-10, 06:43

I've known illiterate immigrants learn to speak near perfect English in 3 months. I also have very educated friends who can't learn more than 10 words of a language. Go figure...
The immigrants learn it because they have to, at least if they want to live above the subsistence level. But to your "educated friends," learning a language is a luxury that they can take or leave.

Cunning Linguist

06-21-10, 14:41

The immigrants learn it because they have to, at least if they want to live above the subsistence level. But to your "educated friends," learning a language is a luxury that they can take or leave.

In my experience, it is rather more complicated. Generally speaking, those from larger countries with an imperialist, empire-building tradition are usually quite bad at learning other languages. This explains why English speakers are generally awful at learning other languages. They just assume that everyone speaks, or should speak, English. In Europe, the imperial past of the local culture seems to be the determining factor in most instances. The English, French, and Spanish are absolutely awful. The Italians, for some reason, are not very good either. Those from smaller countries tend to be more skillful such as Scandinavia, the Low Countries, former Yugoslav republics, the Swiss, etc. The Portuguese, though with an imperialist past, tend to be good at languages in contrast to the awkwardness of their Iberian cousins, perhaps because they are a smaller country.

In Asia, the countries that are worst at learning other languages seem to follow the imperialist tradition. The Chinese, generally speaking, do NOT speak a foreign language while the Japanese are quite bad at it. The Koreans don't seem to be good although it would seem to be a contradiction of the imperialist, empire tradition since Korea never invaded anybody, at least in the Sino-Japanese tradition (they were occupied by Japan until 1945 so that might explain it). The Thais are not very good except the very wealthy or the very ambitious bar girls who quickly learn.

In Africa, people seem to be naturally multilingual and even revel in it. In Morrocco, many of the traders there can speak a few phrases of anything from English to Catalan to Basque to Spanish to whatever, anything to make a sale.

In Latin America, in keeping with the imperialist mentality, Spanish and Portuguese speakers tend to be as bad as English-speakers at languages (though Canadians tend to speak a bit of French and Quebeckers tend to know English quite well). However, the elites in Latin America generally speak excellent English thanks to schooling and English-language TV.

Generally speaking, people learn other languages, regardless of education, if they perceive a pressing need. The higher on the totem pole, the more resistance to learning someone else's tongue. It is a question of sociology and psychology.

Haitians are very good at languages if given a decent chance. I am absolutely amazed at how well they often speak English, French, or Spanish in addition to their Kreyol.

La Isla

06-24-10, 05:03

Sorry but I disagree with most of what you say. I will however give you that
"...people learn other languages, regardless of education, if they perceive a pressing need".
I am from a large Imperialist country and speak 5 languages (not all fluent but enough to communicate). I LOVE to learn new languages

In my experience, it is rather more complicated. Generally speaking, those from larger countries with an imperialist, empire-building tradition are usually quite bad at learning other languages. This explains why English speakers are generally awful at learning other languages. They just assume that everyone speaks, or should speak, English. In Europe, the imperial past of the local culture seems to be the determining factor in most instances. The English, French, and Spanish are absolutely awful. The Italians, for some reason, are not very good either. Those from smaller countries tend to be more skillful such as Scandinavia, the Low Countries, former Yugoslav republics, the Swiss, etc. The Portuguese, though with an imperialist past, tend to be good at languages in contrast to the awkwardness of their Iberian cousins, perhaps because they are a smaller country.

In Asia, the countries that are worst at learning other languages seem to follow the imperialist tradition. The Chinese, generally speaking, do NOT speak a foreign language while the Japanese are quite bad at it. The Koreans don't seem to be good although it would seem to be a contradiction of the imperialist, empire tradition since Korea never invaded anybody, at least in the Sino-Japanese tradition (they were occupied by Japan until 1945 so that might explain it). The Thais are not very good except the very wealthy or the very ambitious bar girls who quickly learn.

In Africa, people seem to be naturally multilingual and even revel in it. In Morrocco, many of the traders there can speak a few phrases of anything from English to Catalan to Basque to Spanish to whatever, anything to make a sale.

In Latin America, in keeping with the imperialist mentality, Spanish and Portuguese speakers tend to be as bad as English-speakers at languages (though Canadians tend to speak a bit of French and Quebeckers tend to know English quite well). However, the elites in Latin America generally speak excellent English thanks to schooling and English-language TV.

Generally speaking, people learn other languages, regardless of education, if they perceive a pressing need. The higher on the totem pole, the more resistance to learning someone else's tongue. It is a question of sociology and psychology.

Haitians are very good at languages if given a decent chance. I am absolutely amazed at how well they often speak English, French, or Spanish in addition to their Kreyol.