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Perkele
11-03-05, 07:06
that's how they did it!! of course that makes perfect sense now. eg, what do the cameras look like, how can you tell you are getting close to one? i do remember now raphaela saying from time to time to slow down. i was looking at her like -shut up *****- i know how to drive!! heck i wish i had paid more attention, i do remember her pointing i thought she was pointing at the speed limit sign. i thought the car rental guys were ripping me. z

the cameras are pretty easy to spot because they are visible. next time when you drive pay attention on some posts on the right side of the road.

another tip, pay attention on taxies. they know every camera in the city.

p

RxHammer
11-03-05, 08:33
Guys,

Anyone know if it is possible to catch a bus to Mangaratiba/Isla Grande from Copa or do you have to venture to Centro to hook up a ride ?? Was thinking of driving down but not sure about leaving the car unattended for 2-3 days while out on the island. Also, any recommendations as far as diving/snorkeling, sailing, pousadas etc on Isla Grande ??

Thanks in advance,

Hammer

PS Have also used David at Gringomanagement (20+ rentals) with no complaints what so ever, highly recommended. Perhaps Gladiators experience was just a random case of bad luck ??

California Guy
11-03-05, 10:03
I am looking to travel down for two weeks and thought I would get one of those multi-city airline tickets so I could check out different locations. I would like to stay by the ocean as I am also going to relax but women are important as well. Rio is of interest but also gets me worried because of the crime so I would like to see what other spots maybe be to my liking, like smaller areas of interest? I would also expect the smaller towns to be a little less expensive than a place like Rio but I am not going to be cheap at all, well I would rather use that extra cash I can save for some fun.

Okay well If I go for 2 weeks total what should I expect to spend in terms of basic needs like hotel, taxis, and food in the smaller cities? Is there really a big difference in the women from the North and South? I love the tan brazilian girls but I don't like really dark girls or black, just not my taste. If I can find some of these girls outside of Rio I will be very happy.

Thanks for any information, I appreciate the help!

Cali

Prosal
11-03-05, 11:31
Check the 'other areas' section ; you have fifteen pages of reports about NUMEROUS mid-sized cities in Brasil.

Java Man
11-03-05, 20:06
RxHammer:
i arrive in Rio next Friday. if the weather cooperates i was thinking of visiting ilha grande. i've heard of a road being washed out, (not sure which) that leads to ilha grande docks.
anyway, here's what i've found:
ilha grande has an official website:

http://br.ilhagrande.com/sys/

its in portuguese, btw.
clink "como chegar" gives you a route from rio.

another site, from argentina (this one in english):

http://www.ilhagrande.com.ar/

also has a ton of info. click "hotel reservations" then "click here" on that page for pousada links and rates.

go to the bus station in Centro and take the Costa Verde to Mangaratiba (2hr bus ride) or ANGRA DO REIS (2-3hr bus ride) suppose to be a R22 fare. the buses leave every hour.

then you gotta hop on a boat.
boat schedule:

Monday to Thursday

Mangaratiba-Abrao 08.00

Abrao-Mangaratiba 17:30

Angra-Abrao 15:30

Abrao-Angra 10:00

Friday

Mangaratiba-Abrao 08.00 y 22:00

Abrao-Mangaratiba 17:30

Angra-Abrao 15:30

Abrao-Angra 10:00

Saturdays and Sundays

Mangaratiba-Abrao 08.00

Abrao-Mangaratiba 17:30

Angra-Abrao 13:30

Abrao-Angra 10:00

The cost of the ticket from Monday to Friday is R$ 4,55

Holidays, Saturdays and Sundays R$ 10,00

it's suppose to be easier to get to the boat dock from the MANGARATIBA bus route as the bus stops across the street from the dock, but the boat leaves there daily only from 8a.

on the angora route you have to take a cab to the boat dock.

please post a trip report if you decide to go.

El Austriaco
11-03-05, 21:40
Go to the bus station in Centro:

Terminal Rodoviário Novo Rio

Av. Francisco Bicalho, 01 - Santo Cristo - CEP: 20220-310 Rio de Janeiro/RJ - Tel: (21) 3213-1800.

The phone number of the COSTA VERDE bus company at Novo-Rio is (21) 2233-3809.

Cab there from Copa is approx. R$ 18-20 (as of August 2005). And once you arrive back in Novo Rio, make sure you buy a ticket from one of the cab companies inside the terminal rather than hail down a cab in the street. I've heard numerous reports from locals about criminals posing as freelance cabbies in that area. The surrounding area sure isn't one of the better ones in Rio.

Hope this helps,

EA

Sperto
11-04-05, 07:47
Instead of going to Rodoviária Novo Rio to buy your bus ticket you can but it at an agency in Copacabana. Guaranatur, Rua Dias da Rocha 16A, Copacabana. I think they charge 2 reais for their service.

And once you arrive back in Novo Rio, make sure you buy a ticket from one of the cab companies inside the terminal rather than hail down a cab in the street. I've heard numerous reports from locals about criminals posing as freelance cabbies in that area. The surrounding area sure isn't one of the better ones in Rio.
The cab companies inside the Rodoviária will overcharge you, just like they do at the airport. Definitely cheaper to hail a cab on the street. Why not take the Frescão (A/C-bus, Real) in front of the rodoviária?

RxHammer
11-04-05, 10:09
Guys,

Thanks very much for the info., very helpful. I will be going around Dec 6th and will post when I return....

Hammer

Umgman
11-05-05, 18:46
Heres an FYI for anyone considering options of where to get drugs like Viagra or Cialis. Ordering these drugs online is a pretty easy undertaking. You need to fill out an online health consultation and a prescription is then written for you to dispense the drug online. These are then shipped to you via whatever method you choose.

There are a couple of things to consider when doing this. Foremost--if you do in fact have a health issue involving your heart, you should probably go see your doctor and get a thorough exam before taking these drugs. The risks are real as well as profound (heart attack). HOWEVER if you do not have said health issues, it is probably relatively safe to take these drugs--as directed-- on a recreational basis (but remember that nothing in life is certain).

If you decide to partake, you can order name brand items ie. Viagra or Cialis or their equally potent generic variety. What is the difference? Price. In a very big way.

Example. I just ordered and more importantly accepted delivery of 60 20mg Tadalafil (generic Cialis) tabs for $200. The recommended dose is 10 mg. so this is 120 doses of Cialis at something like $1.30 per dose. Purchasing the name brand item would be on the order of 3-5x more expensive. Same ingredient, same efficacy, less money.

I ordered mine from XL pharmacy online. If you look around, it may be available for a bit less. It is shipped from India, and comes in blister packs. Took about 2 weeks to get.

Just google whatever generic variety ("generic cialis" or "generic Viagra") and you should turn up what you need. It is a little nerve wracking because you are never quite sure whether or not you are being ripped off, but I can report that my order came through with no problem.

I'll be using these babies during Carnival, you betcha!

Delecti
11-05-05, 19:17
I just got back, and thought the following would be useful:

Taxi, meter, from Airport to Rio, R37 (Sunday about R5 more)
Best Exchange Rate: Luomo, R240/$
Help exchange Rate: R230/$*
Citibank ATM (Blockbuster) around R221/$

Help would only take $100 with paid admission, previous years they would exchange $200 or more with one paid admission.

Going Rate in Help: "Elite": Ask R400-500, will accept R300 almost all of the time. After the "10's", everything is negotiable. I saw/had offers of R100 or less in Help, but not the same drop-dead georgeous GDP that was asking R500l of course. I was with a long term friend, so can't really give any reviews that anyone will care about, but thought the above of interest.

Oh, and I activated the International World on my Cingular cellphone, gives me $.14/ $.28 /minute to landlines/cell respectively from the US to Brasil. I know you can do a little better with calling cards, 800 type long distance services, but the convenience of the cell makes those rates great for me. And my Portuguese won't last more than about 5-10 minutes by phone anyway. lol.

I return Dec. 3 for another week.

Team Stream
11-06-05, 10:44
I just got back, and thought the following would be useful:

Taxi, meter, from Airport to Rio, R37 (Sunday about R5 more)
Best Exchange Rate: Luomo, R240/$
Help exchange Rate: R230/$*
Citibank ATM (Blockbuster) around R221/$I was also there recently (Oct),
Monte Carlo, the exchange rate was R230/$100

4x4, R200/$100

My taxi ride (metered on Sunday morning) to Hotel Atlantico Copacabana, R36

Paul76
11-06-05, 21:16
Hello to everybody,

I would like to listen your opinions.

What is be white person in Brazil?

For example the actress Carla Regina " novela essas mulheres".

Is she white girl? Or does she have mixed blood?

Thanks

Comgo
11-09-05, 04:36
Can anyone in Rio right now update what the best exchange rate is that they're getting at cambio's for U.S. dollars? TJ was getting 2.35 (official rate was 2.23 or so) a few weeks ago at Action Cambio, anyone been there lately? Thanks.

Gimmedub
11-10-05, 03:05
I just got back, and thought the following would be useful:

Taxi, meter, from Airport to Rio, R37 (Sunday about R5 more)
Best Exchange Rate: Luomo, R240/$
Help exchange Rate: R230/$*
Citibank ATM (Blockbuster) around R221/$

Help would only take $100 with paid admission, previous years they would exchange $200 or more with one paid admission.

Going Rate in Help: "Elite": Ask R400-500, will accept R300 almost all of the time. After the "10's", everything is negotiable. I saw/had offers of R100 or less in Help, but not the same drop-dead georgeous GDP that was asking R500l of course. I was with a long term friend, so can't really give any reviews that anyone will care about, but thought the above of interest.

Oh, and I activated the International World on my Cingular cellphone, gives me $.14/ $.28 /minute to landlines/cell respectively from the US to Brasil. I know you can do a little better with calling cards, 800 type long distance services, but the convenience of the cell makes those rates great for me. And my Portuguese won't last more than about 5-10 minutes by phone anyway. lol.

I return Dec. 3 for another week.Just got back myself from Rio and can say that Delecti is right on the $ when it comes to the exchange rates for Citi and Help. As for prices of help girls... all started at 300R, quickly went to 200R when I just smiled and said thanks but no thanks, and I actually took one out for 30US and another for 50US. You get what you pay for but hey i like a good kisser and one who fucks well vs. a cold fish. My buddy was playing with this sweet thing from Bahia and got her down to 150R.

Might I suggest that when a girl starts at 300R we do the opposite and offer 80! Come on guys - 100-150R should be all we're paying... it is Brazil where the min. income is 300R/month.

RonnyRon
11-10-05, 16:44
Raining cats and dogs. Dollar is exchanging for 2.25 in cambios. On the way to 4X4. Talk to you later.

RonnyRon

Kenn
11-11-05, 11:53
Mike Tyson scuffles with cameraman at Sao Paulo club

It doesn't pay to tangle with Mike Tyson, a Brazilian reporter has learned.
The former heavyweight boxing champion lost his patience when a reporter-cameraman tried to film him at a nightclub early on Thursday, Sao Paulo police said.
"He asked him to stop and he didn't stop. He got up, took the camera, destroyed the tape and damaged the equipment," district police chief Roberto Calassa said.
Police detained Tyson for questioning and later released him.
Reporter Carlos Mello said the ex-champ hit him in the head but police said he needed a medical test to prove it.
"We doubt he was hit because everyone knows Mike Tyson's punch and the reporter didn't seem to have a wound," Calassa said.
Tyson, 39, was making news in Brazil on his way home from Argentina, where he was a guest on former soccer star Diego Maradona's talk show.
The previous night, the American boxer brought six women back to his hotel but staff would not allow them to go to his room, Folha de S.Paulo newspaper reported.

Track Star
11-11-05, 16:23
On my trip to Rio in October sometimes the dial up connection between my brain and penis wasn't working very well after drinking to much alcohol so I decided it was time to take some Vitamin "V"

On Copacabana street.. right in from the side street that goes in from Avenida Atlantica by Trocadero Othon Travel Hotel there is a pharmacy called Drogasmil.

So I went into the Drogasmil and asked for a piece of paper and a pen. I wrote down to the older clerk there (or the pharmacist..a grey haired gent with mustache) that I wanted to buy some Vitamin "V". He said Vitamina V and looked at me like a question mark. After the "V" on the paper I added an equal sign and wrote VIAGRA. He smiled and got it.

I bought 4 blue pills @ 50mg each for 79 Reais. It was supposed to be a promotion price, but I thought that was more than enough money-wise.

The next time I came into the Drogasmil store the same guy smiled and called me Vitamina "V". I like people with a sense of humor. It makes life so much more fun to live.

Track Star

Track Star
11-11-05, 21:28
Fuckin,

I take one tablet of 50mg...100mg is too much for me..I tried that before and generally found that does to be too large. 50mg works well for me.

Track Star

Bubba Boy
11-12-05, 00:11
First time you may even want to try less. 1/8 of a 100mg tablet works great for me even with 4-6 beers under my belt.

Same thing if you try Cialus. 1/4 of a 20mg will give your average guy more than enough wood for a couple of days.

Panman
11-12-05, 01:38
Track Star, that's the usual price for four 50mg V pills anywhere you go in Brazil, usually from 80 to 95 reais. I heard of cheaper ones, but they were not manufactured by pfizer, probably imitations from another country.

If you only use that stuff on your trips, I would suggest not taking very high dosages. Half a 50mg pill is more than enough, usually lasts me 6 hours and I still wake up horny. It's great for the whisky dick but if you abuse it your body gets used to it.

I feel embarassed to buy it if the drug store has a female clerk because I'm in my mid 20's. However, it's great enhancement for when you're tired or drunk.

Zidaho
11-12-05, 02:49
About one week before I monger I begin frequent doses of Horny Goat Weed and/or Steel Libido. Both herbals, and I notice an improved sex drive. Viagra tends to give me a headache more often than Levitra, though I take either one very sparingly (just bite off about 20 mg of Viagra or take about 10 mg of Levitra) preferably with food. V and LeV also tend to numb me, reducing sexual sensations (lack of sensitivity) makes it difficult to get a 2nd or (please!) 3rd nut. It's definitely reassuring to have pharmaceuticals standing by, but regularly I rely on herbals and doggie imagination. Z

James Howard
11-12-05, 06:01
I wish I could get in on all this Viagra and Cialis talk, but I've found that whenever I try them, I get a unsatiable, raging hard on and an incredibly hard time (no pun intended) getting off. After watching the minute hand on the clock make a full rotation once, twice and thrice, although by then I feel like the ultimate macho stud, I accept it as a lost cause and call it quits. That's enough of my public boner discussion for the day. Just wanted anybody else out there with this problem not to feel alone. You will always have a fellowship with James Howard.

Comgo
11-13-05, 04:34
Raining cats and dogs. Dollar is exchanging for 2.25 in cambios. On the way to 4X4. Talk to you later.

RonnyRon

Thanks for the update, Ron. I hope the rain takes a break so you can hit the beach.

Euro100
11-13-05, 10:15
After watching the minute hand on the clock make a full rotation once, twice and thrice, although by then I feel like the ultimate macho stud, I accept it as a lost cause and call it quits.
James,

I would advise you to stop using vitamin V. If you watch teh commercial, they warn about "erections lasting more than four hours". And they do this for good reason. After these long-time erections your penis starts to take real damage.

euro

Bubba Boy
11-13-05, 14:02
I am starting to think you are right Euro. I am finding really difficult to shoot a load when on C now. Same thing for V, unlike James H, I watch the hour clock go round three times before shooting a load ;-). Must be less effort to just go in to Bat unassisted, shoot a load after 3 minutes and then get some sleep.

Mangera
11-13-05, 15:24
I will be in Rio within the next two weeks with a buddy. I am staying in an apartment in Ipanema, and he was fortunate enough to find his own, which he will be staying for free because a friend (female friend) of his allowed him to use the apartment for free,as long as he does not bring any ladies of the night back to the apartment. Yes, what a pain in the ass, but then again, its free.

I told my friend, no need to worry, just use short time love motels in Ipanema, but then again, I don't know of any( i have always stayed in an apartment). Can anyone recommend a couple of good, clean, safe and relatively close love motels within Ipanema? If possible, prices too.

I have heard of a place not far from Copa or within Copa, that many brazilians gather to practice samba for carnival time. Its in some sort of a big warehouse type of location. Supposedly, a ton of regular gals, and not many guys. Anyone with info. on this? Thanks!

Exec Talent
11-13-05, 16:36
This might be worth a separate thread. Up until this trip I had avoided any artificial stimulants like the plague. Well, I got the plague this trip which took all my energy and decided that maybe I would give them a try.

Before I was able to have three sessions with my favorite girl and had no problems. With Levitra, it just never happened the second time, and no way of even thinking about the third. Sure I was hard as a rock, but someone was more than a little disappointed.

Maybe we have some experts out there who can advise us. I only took half of a 20MG tablet.

Gladiator
11-13-05, 17:27
Contrary to what many mongers think, my opinion is that we should stay away from all this crap (V, C, etc) for as long as we can. I’ve never tried them and will do my best to stay away from them, though I know that sooner or later I’ll give them a try, but there is no hurry, it would be silly jumping at them in view of all the hype, because they must obviously have their drawbacks, and, most worrying, they might somehow make you depend on them eventually to get a hard-on.

I’d rather go on unassisted - I won’t enjoy 3-4 hours fucks, that’s for sure, but neither will I end up hooked on strong medication to keep on having fun (not to mention the nasty side effects, such as headaches, additional heart strain, etc).

Anyway, I suppose this discussion doesn’t belong to this section but to the Viagra thread, under Special Interests.

Liucio
11-13-05, 18:26
Cialis

An article witten in the Magazine Medicine Today.
Cialis stimulates a chemical that reduces stress.
So now I guess tis drug serves two purposes.

Zidaho
11-13-05, 21:23
Last night a business client and I went out to discuss a deal, we took a hottie with us, I dropped about 5 mg of LeV after sushi and a couple of glasses of wine. We went back to her apartment so she could entertain us. She walks out all dolled up in lingerie and heels, getting us beers and putzing around showing herself off like the **** she likes to be in the bedroom. LeV had me raging hard, the client had a couple of nuts before I was even close to getting off which was fine with her, she get's insatiable with two men. Particularly a new one.

I think now that my objectiveness about LeV performance during sex is difficult because desire is so deliciously subjective. THough, it's the general numbness that has been my usual observation, last night I was making an effort to observe the more subtle aspects of my experience. First of all I would like to offer my services to a deep pocket pharmaceutical company for further extensive testing on this important issue. Ha, ha.

About an hour into the menage she was begging for a DP and that usually gets me off pretty quick. I noticed less sensitivity at the very tip and around the head of my shaft. I have had a lot of DP's with this office **** hottie, the DP while I am in her vagina, presses my cock head against the ridges of her G-spot which she absolutely loves and I like it because it makes her pussy squirm and spasm around my cock shaft. And it makes her say all kinds of nasty things. Last night I think perhaps one of the the sensations missing was the feeling of her G-spot ridges on the upper half of my cock head. Also her spasms when she came around my shaft were less noticible. I think the LeV subdued and regulated my normally intense and sharp focus on doggie desires. It was like comparing a good BBBJ - to - a wet tonguing, mouth slobbering, noisy, dripping, nasty sucking blow job down the throat of a beautiful faced, lustful eyed, and yet otherwise elegant unappraochable, but in reality cock loving ****. Ha, ha, something like that.

From now on I think I will use it in ever smaller doeses. BTW she notices a little more edge with the steel libido herbal for women. Z

Zidaho
11-13-05, 21:55
How many Brasiladas can I take out and into the USA on a fiance visa (say over a couple of years) before INS starts scrutinizing me? My immigration paralegal said maybe 2 over a few years, provided that they go back after their 3 month stay. THough apparently the same fiance can make multiple entries over a few years on her fiance visa. That is, stay for 3 months, then return, back and forth, until we do or don't get married.

But the para legal said doing this with numerous fiances within a year or two could be an invitation for INS to check me out. The big liabilty exposure to me occurs if the girl needs hospitalization, has a car accident, or commits a crime, then per the support agreement I signed to get her over here on the fiance visa, I could be held financially responsible.

I am not sure what INS would be looking for if various fiances were staying for three months then returning as legally required. Any monger advise on this issue about how many different women I can bring in over say a couple of years from Brasil on fiance visa?? Thanks, Z

BuleDaddy
11-13-05, 23:51
How many Brasiladas can I take out and into the USA on a fiance visa (say over a couple of years) before INS starts scrutinizing me? My immigration paralegal said maybe 2 over a few years, provided that they go back after their 3 month stay. THough apparently the same fiance can make multiple entries over a few years on her fiance visa. That is, stay for 3 months, then return, back and forth, until we do or don't get married.

But the para legal said doing this with numerous fiances within a year or two could be an invitation for INS to check me out. The big liabilty exposure to me occurs if the girl needs hospitalization, has a car accident, or commits a crime, then per the support agreement I signed to get her over here on the fiance visa, I could be held financially responsible.

I am not sure what INS would be looking for if various fiances were staying for three months then returning as legally required. Any monger advise on this issue about how many different women I can bring in over say a couple of years from Brasil on fiance visa?? Thanks, ZDon't bring back anybody from anyplace. Because Philipinas, Central American, Russian and Thai women were coming here and dissapearing into the woodwork there are no tourist visas. To bring one back requires you to sign an affadavit of support. One to cover before marriage and one for afterwards. In most states she could get knocked up by the mailman but if you live under the same roof with her and she has the kid it is yours along with all the debts she incurs. Prenups are null and void because the gal will suddenly not speak any English and the courts side with them as she signed it under "duress" to escape poverty. If you are considerably older than her, the courts will want to make an example of you, and they will. These women are far smarter than us. The daughter of a ho is even worse than a ho. But if it is a ho that is the daughter of a ho, you best just move on.

Do a search on state deparment affadavit of support.

Samarkand
11-14-05, 17:39
Now we are 2 hours ahead of EST and 4 hours ahead of PST.. On Oct.30 when you in the USA change your time we will be 3 hours ahead of EST and 6 hours ahead of PST.Not sure about these time zones? Usually times are given a s + or minus GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) which is zero degrees Longitude.

0 degrees Longitude runs as a line through Accra ,Ghana and London UK. At present Biritsh Winter Time corresponds to GMT.

I think Brazil is 3 hours behind that. e.g. 1200 hours in UK is 0900 hours in Brazil.

Gipse
11-15-05, 01:27
Where can one get these herbs: horny goat weed, etc.

Zidaho
11-15-05, 02:14
Thanks BD,
The link (State Department) you sent was very helpful. Yes, the support issue is without a doubt the tricky part. I just want to get a beautiful bed warmer over here for a few months, I really have little intention of marrying. Hummm, I don't know if it makes any sense to go about investigating the channels for a USA work visa or not.

Anyway thanks for your input on that. Z

CaptainNemo
11-15-05, 03:26
Forget about fiance visa.

Have anyone investigated the nanny visa? There was one time that I sat next to a Brazil nanny on th plane when I came back home. I also met a Brazil nanny here. But they are not too good looking.

Anyway, they speak good English.

How about telling the State department that you want your niece (in case you have no child) to learn Portuguese? So you hire a Brazil nanny. I was dreaming about such agency to provide beautiful Brazil nanny for American men who act like child and need to be taken care for a few months. Of course, such agency can only run for a short time before LE is on you.

Zidaho
11-15-05, 22:21
HG Weed is purchased at about any health food/vitamin store.

I am forgeting about the fiance visa, and beginning to crawl around on all fours, because I need a nanny.

Dinghy
11-15-05, 22:24
Samarkand - 2 hours ahead of EST _IS_ GMT-3 (so the correction is correct - just remember that EST is GMT-5 and PST is GMT-8. They obviously prefer to convert to times based on US times, not GMT which gets a bit confusing - it is MUCH easier to use the GMT reference) What am I doing here - I've never even BEEN to Brazil...

El Austriaco
11-15-05, 22:50
Check out this link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Should answer all questions.

El Austriaco

Samarkand
11-16-05, 12:12
Samarkand - 2 hours ahead of EST _IS_ GMT-3 (so the correction is correct - just remember that EST is GMT-5 and PST is GMT-8. They obviously prefer to convert to times based on US times, not GMT which gets a bit confusing - it is MUCH easier to use the GMT reference) What am I doing here - I've never even BEEN to Brazil...Thanks Dinghy.

Santa3
11-16-05, 12:13
Guys, I am an Indian and have an offer in Brazil. Would any of you folks be able to tell me what can i as an indian expect over there. In terms of culture, language / communication, attitude towards outsiders etc. Also how much in local currency should one earn to be able to sustain a decent lifestyle? nothing too flashy. I need all the help that me can get. I could help for India / Bombay thanks n regards

Hot To Cool
11-17-05, 09:22
Guys, I am an Indian and have an offer in Brazil. Would any of you folks be able to tell me what can i as an indian expect over there. In terms of culture, language / communication, attitude towards outsiders etc. Also how much in local currency should one earn to be able to sustain a decent lifestyle? nothing too flashy. I need all the help that me can get. I could help for India / Bombay thanks n regards

Santa 3,

I'd say 3000 reais per month would do you fine, including once a week hobbying. This figure would vary depending on what area in Brazil you settle in, also. It is a large country. As far as culture is concerned, you should fit in fine, as Brazilians are very tolerant of other cultures, being rather multicultural and multi-ethnic themselves.

HTC

Liucio
11-18-05, 20:11
What kinda of Indian you are also depends. An Indian from what country?Because your culture can be very different.

Sperto
11-18-05, 20:50
Guys, I am an Indian and have an offer in Brazil. Would any of you folks be able to tell me what can i as an indian expect over there. In terms of culture, language / communication, attitude towards outsiders etc. Also how much in local currency should one earn to be able to sustain a decent lifestyle? nothing too flashy. I need all the help that me can get. I could help for India / Bombay thanks n regards

What kinda of Indian you are also depends. An Indian from what country?Because your culture can be very different.
Maybe Xingú, Yanomani or Uru-Eu-Wau-Wau?
Maybe even from Bombay, India.
Read the posts, Liucio. You're a funny guy!

Santa3, I think you'll be just fine in terms of culture, language, religion and racism.
Just smile to everybody.

Santa3
11-19-05, 13:08
Nice to hear that folks. I should be based in Sau Paulo. Thats the southern part i believe and also the climate is more european and not tropical. Is that correct?
Need to plan clothing accordingly.

Double
11-19-05, 20:47
Prior to my trip I had a preoccupation with where to get money at a reasonable rate. I did place some money in a checking account for the trip, so that I would have access to the ATM, and so that I could do some charging if needed. I also carried cash because I was staying in a hotel, and I knew that there would be a safe in the room.

Hotel exchange- The hotel was the most convenient place to get money. I stayed at the Othon Palace, so they always had plenty more than I needed to exchange at any given time. The problem with the hotel is that they did not have the best rate per dollar. They were offering 2.0r per.

ATM- with the ATM I found that it was a special trip, and there was always someone stationed at the door waiting for me to exit, so that they could ask for some money. I used the ATM as my last resort.

Currency Exchange- The job of the currency is to exchange money, the only limitation here is that they established daytime hours and once the day began, sometimes it would be difficult to get there on time.

Black Market- Some of the local businesses around the Othon Palace provided the currency exchange service. Telmo Solano Wholesale Gems, Meia Pataca, and Help, all bought dollars in exchange for reias. These 3 places also gave the best rate for the money. They were giving from 2.2 to 2.28. For some, this may work out well, because in the course of a day you may find yourself in or near one of there places. No special trip needed.

This trip I decided to bring home 500r with me so that I can get into town next time and not worry about money for at least a couple of hours. When I left Rio the first time, I did not realize that the urge to return would hit me so hard. I was told while I was there that I would be back. Now I know that it is true. Once you go to Rio, and do it the way you want to, the likelihood of a return trip is very high.

I hope that someone is able to benefit from this info, and remember no matter where you go to exchange money, be safe. Some tourists do not realize that they have in their pockets at least a month or two's wage at any given time. There are many opportunists out to make a buck on a carefree, careless or unsuspecting traveler.

D.

Double
11-19-05, 20:57
Just go....You will experience the country in a way that many have not. I imagine that if you have an offer for employment, you will make a good wage as a foriegn professional.

The ladies will love you, especially when find out that you have been recriuted to come to Brazil to work, they will smell the reias lining your pockets.

You will also meet people in the work place that are from Brazil. I imagine they will have a great deal of respect for you as a coworker, and will want to show you the best the Brazil has to offer-especially in the beginning.

Do not worry about bias, just go for it.....

Perkele
11-20-05, 05:25
Santa 3

I'd just like to advice you that if you're from India and you are vegetarian, Brasil will be a shock to you. Brasilians are carnivorous and meat dishes are easily available. Pure vegetarian is going to find his options quite limited.

P

Santa3
11-20-05, 07:43
I'm just looking forward to reaching there. After the feedback that you folks have given me, am just itching to get there.
Perkele, I have absolutely no issues on food, whisky, ciggarettes and women. Am a christian from the Goan side.
Any advise from anybody on the climate in Sau Paulo ?

Sui Generis
11-20-05, 09:33
Any advise from anybody on the climate in Sau Paulo ?


Look at this site for more information on the average weather in São Paulo

http://www.a2zlanguages.com/brazil/SaoPaulo/sp_weather.htm

Hot To Cool
11-20-05, 10:24
I'm just looking forward to reaching there. After the feedback that you folks have given me, am just itching to get there.
Perkele, I have absolutely no issues on food, whisky, ciggarettes and women. Am a christian from the Goan side.
Any advise from anybody on the climate in Sau Paulo ?

Santa3,

Since you're from Goa, a former Portuguese colony, you probably have the language problem licked. Is that so? In any case, I would say the climate in Sao Paulo is more like in southern Europe rather than northern, subtropical as a meteorologist would put it.

Liucio
11-20-05, 19:52
U will find a great culture.

Santa3
11-21-05, 07:36
HTC, Liucio, Generis
Thanks for the info / advise. Folks, contrary to what you think, Portugese as such is no longer spoken in Goa save for some old timers. So it's the other way round, the language has got me licked. :D

Sprite13
11-23-05, 03:02
While I was in Brasil, I had a hard time in the beginning to find an ATM which would accept my canadian cards. At the Galeão airport, first, once I had located the atms in the food courts, in the top floor, near departures, I tried Banco do Brasil, HSBC and a couple of others but to no avail. The funny thing is that I had opened an HSBC account specially for my trip knowing the large presence of this bank in Brasil and to my surprise, I wasn't able to use my card on the HSBC machines (despite being assured by the bank here in Canada that I would be able to do so).

However, the only bank which accepted my cards were the Itau bank. It accepted perfectly my HSBC card, gave me a great rate of exchange but also the lowest transaction fees. A plus for Itau bank is that branches are plentiful in Rio and all over Brasil and that they have an English option for language. In Rio, since I was staying in Ipanema, I used the branch in avenida Visconde de Iparaja during daytime. I had no problem nor felt insecure at any times that I withdrew cash, despite seeing some shady characters at times on the streets.

Since I had the hardest time to obtain Reais in Canada prior to my trip, I brought with me enough to last me for next trip. That's something that I would recommend people do as well. Bring Reais with you, at least enough to get you through the first day upon your next visit.

For my next trip, I'm planning on spending 2 months next summer (june-july). What is the weather at that time of the year in Rio and around Ilheus, Bahia and in Fortaleza? Has anyone been to the Fernando de Noronha island? I heard it's sublimely beautiful. I'd like to hear the experiences of someone who's already been there, if possible.

Jayf1970
11-23-05, 14:41
I might need to combine a little business with pleasure on my next Rio trip.

Does anyone know of a place that provides business services in the Copacabana area? I need a place that can make laser printouts and provides a decent internet connection for business work.

If not in Copa, where else in Rio? How about in Centro?

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

Prosal
11-24-05, 13:23
Winter in Europe :-(

To lighten "a saudade", here's a good link with tons of on-line brasilian radios. For each state there's a huge choice of stations.

www.radios.com.br/novo/estados.htm

Personnaly I listen MPB-FM (Rio de Janeiro) : no axe/bahiana crap, only good MPB. www.mpbfm.com.br/radinho.asp


Cheers

Member #4156
11-24-05, 15:27
Winter in Europe :-(

To lighten "a saudade", here's a good link with tons of on-line brasilian radios. For each state there's a huge choice of stations.

www.radios.com.br/novo/estados.htm

Personnaly I listen MPB-FM (Rio de Janeiro) : no axe/pagode crap, only good MPB. www.mpbfm.com.br/radinho.asp


Cheers

Pro,

Do you know where I can find an online station that plays baile funk?

Sui Generis
11-24-05, 16:21
Winter in Europe :-(

To "matar a saudade", here's a good link with tons of on-line brasilian radios. For each state there's a huge choice of stations.

www.radios.com.br/novo/estados.htm

Personnaly I listen MPB-FM (Rio de Janeiro) : no axe/pagode crap, only good MPB. www.mpbfm.com.br/radinho.asp


Cheers

Oi!
Today it's snowing in Montreal.....

I have also my way to lighten "saudade". I also listen Brazilian music or watch TV from Brazil. Here's a link:

http://www.musikcity.mus.br/radiosdobrasil.html

Hey Pro! MPB-FM (Rio de Janeiro) is also my favorite radio station. Each Tuesday I listen to Palco ao vivo: live show with the best singers in Brazil.

Liucio
11-24-05, 22:55
These stations are great
Spent the entire day dreaming about arriving next week

California Guy
11-28-05, 01:50
I am trying to plan my trip to Brazil for Feb. and I have no idea how easy or hard it is to get to Bahia or Fortaleza so if anyone here has been I would appreciate some help. I was planning to stay in one of these smaller cities for 8 days and go to Rio for 2-3. Thanks in advance for any advice or help you can lend, you can also send me a PM if that is easier and I would appreciate it.

Take Care!

Cali

Liucio
11-28-05, 04:40
Take the bus
I will send u more info
I traveling there this wk and will b going from Rio to Bahia and further north on buses.

Trippleecks
11-28-05, 23:00
Sorry guy but I will never spend 20-24 hours or possibly more on a bus ride in Brazil, just to save a few dollars... You gotta be crazy.........

Double
11-29-05, 03:04
California Guy,

You can purchase a Brazil airpass from Varig that will allow you to see 1 to 4 places for around $400, and 5 places for around $600. There are restrictions, I believe that one of them is that you can only pass through a city one time. It is very reasonably priced, and for someone that wants to the most during one visit it seems like a great deal.

Give Varig a call, and inquire about the airpass.

Sperto
11-29-05, 07:10
Airpass is a very good value. VARIG or TAM.
Four destinations:411 US$.
Five destinations: +100 US$ etc...
Valid for three weeks.
It's great value specially if going to places like Manaus, Cuiabá etc.

Between some cities there are regular tickets to be found quite cheap, Rio-Salvador, Rio-Fortaleza.

If you're starting in Rio and going north along the coast, stopping in smaller cities, the bus will be a good option.
Rio-Porto Seguro, 17 hs
Rio-Salvador, 27 hs
Rio-Fortaleza, 48 hs (get a flight ticket)
The buses are excellent, very comfortable. It's quite safe except when travelling in the interior of Pernambuco and Bahia.

California Guy
11-29-05, 11:17
Hey thanks to all for the responses, I do appreciate it the help! I think I will pass on the bus system because it is a little lengthy for myself but sounds like it would be great to see the country.

Okay my next question is a concerning one I noticed on another site so maybe some of you can help. I'm a white guy and I am not really into black women, will this be a major problem in Brazil? I hope this isn't a racist comment because I really love all people and have been with black women but they are not my preference at all. Anyway if I offend anyone I apologize. Back to my point, I found another site that said the women in the North are basically all black and don't even like many white guys to begin with, is it true? My ideal girl is dark skinned, like Adriana Lima, so as you can see I love color but I am just not into really dark skinned girls. Well hopefully these people were wrong but they were mainly talking about Bahia and Fortaleza which were two areas I wanted to see. I know most of the girls I meet in America from Brazil are gorgeous but they are mainly from the South or Sao Paolo areas. Thanks for the help and sorry if this seems like a stupid question but I would like to know.

DJ FourMoney
11-29-05, 12:28
Hey thanks to all for the responses, I do appreciate it the help! I think I will pass on the bus system because it is a little lengthy for myself but sounds like it would be great to see the country.

Okay my next question is a concerning one I noticed on another site so maybe some of you can help. I'm a white guy and I am not really into black women, will this be a major problem in Brazil? I hope this isn't a racist comment because I really love all people and have been with black women but they are not my preference at all. Anyway if I offend anyone I apologize. Back to my point, I found another site that said the women in the North are basically all black and don't even like many white guys to begin with, is it true? My ideal girl is dark skinned, like Adriana Lima, so as you can see I love color but I am just not into really dark skinned girls. Well hopefully these people were wrong but they were mainly talking about Bahia and Fortaleza which were two areas I wanted to see. I know most of the girls I meet in America from Brazil are gorgeous but they are mainly from the South or Sao Paolo areas. Thanks for the help and sorry if this seems like a stupid question but I would like to know. No offense taken.

I think you'll find more dark chicas (Morenas) in Northern cities and towns, than you would in Sao Paulo or south of there.

I come from the premise that I can get freebies from black women here, why would I go down to Rio for that? Granted most of the black chicas in Brasil are thinner and some even have blue and green eyes, but that's not enough for me.

I date white/latina woman, makes sense for me to chase Loiras and Morenas, so its Sao Paulo!

That's the impression I get from ISG and just research on Brasil's background.

Cachorro
11-29-05, 14:51
The North and North-East are mostly indio / native American look.

In Bahia there is a lot of Afro / black.

In Rio, Sao Paulo and Espirito Santo you can find plenty of mulatas, which is probably a type you'll like. There's nothing like a green eyed mulata, they're so gorgeous! Recife also has some good mulatas.

You can find other types in Rio and Sao Paulo. European look, and immigrants from other regions of Brazil.

Wherever you go, you'll have fun. You should know that most travellers are disappointed in the typical Fortaleza girls. Pot bellied and funny shaped heads is the stereotype. There are hot girls to be found, but it's no paradise.

If you get with a few Brasileiras then trust me, you'll quickly develop a taste for a little colour in the skin (which is not to say black as coal, but a little colour is always good).

Dick Hertz
11-30-05, 03:15
I am going to be in Rio in the middle of March and would like to know any good hotel that is girl friendly at the beach. Also any info on the women, night life and any thing that a first time visitor would need would be greatfully.

Double
11-30-05, 04:35
California, you may want to try Florinapolis, Recife, and Fortaleza.

I actually met two ladies from Fortaleza on my last trip. They had very tan skin - morena clara is what they called themselves. Very pretty, One had a Carmen Electra type complexions, with real long and straight hair, no extensions....they were both awesome.

Florinapolis is a place that I have not seen, but the ladies on the dating sites from that area are normally lighter, blonde to brunette.

One advantage you have in Rio is that there are ladies from all over the country. You will definately be able to find your type, no worries there....

Happy bunda hunting,

D

CaptainNemo
11-30-05, 19:53
I hope that this can last.


SAO PAULO, Brazil, Nov 30 (Reuters) - Brazil's economy contracted 1.2 percent in the third quarter compared with the second quarter, marking its first fall in two years and leaving the government vulnerable to attack as 2006 elections loom.

Sal Dali
12-01-05, 03:23
Analysts predict bad news on Brazil GDP
>By Jonathan Wheatleyi n São Paulo
>Published: November 30 2005 02:00 | Last updated: November 30 2005 02:00
>>
Economists have predicted further bad news for the embattled government of President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva today when figures for Brazil's gross domestic product in the third quarter are expected to show the economy at best stagnating but probably contracting compared with the second quarter.

A contraction would follow eight consecutive quarters of growth and most economists say any downturn would be cyclical. But the slowdown - likely to be bigger than previously expected - would come at a bad time for the government, which is already dogged by a scandal over alleged vote-buying and illegal campaign finance.

Any setback would intensify calls for a relaxation of the tight fiscal and monetary policies championed by Antonio Palocci, the finance minister. His policies are credited with securing Brazil's economic stability over the past three years but have been attacked recently by ministers eager to relax public spending restraints.

Mr Palocci has been embroiled in an increasingly acrimonious and public dispute with Dilma Rousseff, the minister responsible for co-ordinating execution of government policy. He appeared to emerge strengthened on the weekend after Mr Lula da Silva called for a truce. But other ministers continued to attack his policies this week and bad news could further weaken his position.

The comparatively strong performance of the economy over the past two years has helped maintain popular support for Mr Lula da Silva in spite of public unease over the corruption scandal.

A study published this week shows that the proportion of the population living below the poverty line (those earning enough to consume 2,300 calories a day) fell to 25.1 per cent last year from 27.3 per cent in 2003.

Yet a downturn in the third quarter could erode popular support as campaigning approaches for next October's elections.

"The current slump may not exactly be a recession but it may feel a lot like one from where President Lula is sitting," notes Christian Stracke of CreditSights, a New York research firm.

The biggest impact on the economy has come from Brazil's high lending rates and from the strength of the real, which has risen from R$3.50 to the dollar when Mr Lula da Silva took office in January 2003 to about R$2.20 this week.

The strength of the real has been driven partly by the central bank's use of high interest rates to control inflation and by a surge in exports caused by strong global demand led by China. Exports are expected to reach $117bn (€99bn, £68bn) this year, producing a record trade surplus of $43bn.

But the high exchange rate is causing many exporters to lose their competitive edge. While the value of exports continues to rise, partly due to high commodity prices, their volume has been falling steadily since the first quarter.

For many manufacturers with costs or prices set by international markets, the strong real has also affected profitability at home. "The strength of the currency is causing manufacturers to delay investments," says Francisco Gros, a former head of the central bank and now president of Fosfertil, a manufacturer of fertiliser.

On Monday, Arcelor, the world's biggest steelmaker, said it had postponed plans to build a $3bn steel mill in north-eastern Brazil with Baosteel of China because of the strong real. It said the cost of building the plant in Brazil would be three times that of building it in China.

A survey by Brazil's confederation of industry found this month that the proportion of companies planning to increase investments in the year ahead had fallen from 40 per cent in October 2004 to 28.9 per cent today.

Consumer confidence is also low, although Celso Toledo, chief economist at MCM, a São Paulo consultancy, says spending may recover: "When interest rates are high but people think they will come down under stable inflation, they delay consumption, which is what they are doing now."

The question is whether the economy will recover in time to cement confidence in current policies by next year's elections. A recent central bank survey of market economists showed a consensus forecast of 3.5 per cent growth next year. But many economists expect growth of less than 3 per cent, raising the chances of a strong showing by a populist candidate for the presidency.

Torujapan
12-04-05, 11:54
Hi All,

Looking for this prime GDP.

I had a pleasure of tasting this wonderful cherry, so sweet!

She worked in Barbarela, Help, Kilt, Bahamas, Love Story.

Does any one have a contact info or a storry to share?

Thanks

Member #4156
12-04-05, 22:55
Taken from the O Dia. If you can translate it, it's kind of disturbing.


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Domingo, 4 de dezembro de 2005, 11h42
Turista espanca prostituta por achar programa caro

Uma garota de programa foi espancada no Rio por um americano que se recusou a pagar pelo programa alegando preço muito alto. Ela prestou depoimento no fim da manhã de hoje na Delegacia Especial de Atendimento ao Turista (Deat), no Leblon.

De acordo com uma amiga da vítima, ela conheceu o turista na madrugada deste domingo em uma boate, em Copacabana. Então ele a convidou para ir até o seu apartamento.

Os dois passaram a noite juntos, mas, pela manhã, ele se recusou a pagar pelo programa e começou a agredir a mulher. Ela gritou e foi socorrida por vizinhos.

Fido Dido
12-05-05, 02:16
"American Tourist Beats a GDP Because She was too Expensive".

Well. Finaly an American who is sensible.

Java Man
12-05-05, 07:57
For the Portuguese languaged challenged, I've translated to the best of my abliities:

Sunday, dec 4, 2005 11:42a

Tourist beats prostitute over expensive program

A prostitute was beaten in Rio by an American who refused to pay for the program, alleging a very high price. She gave a deposition today at the end of the morning at the Special Tourist Police station (Deat), in Leblon.
According to a friend of the victim, she met the tourist at dawn this sunday in a boate, in Copacabana. He invited her to go to his apartment.
The two spent the night together, but, in the morning, he refused to pay for the program and started to attack the woman. She cried out and was helped by neighbors.

She musta been new to this, next time she'll have a knife.

Sal Dali
12-05-05, 17:26
Good conversational interp, Chingon. BTW, if said "tourist" is a reader of this site (and reading now) . . . you're probably an idiot. ("probably" = Always leaving room for another explanation. Absent a good alternative explanation, you're an idiot.)

(BTW, do you think that by "American" the writer meant "U.S. Citizen?" They harp so much about being American too . . . so it was a little confusing.)

SD



For the Portuguese languaged challenged, I've translated to the best of my abliities:

Sunday, dec 4, 2005 11:42a

Tourist beats prostitute over expensive program

A prostitute was beaten in Rio by an American who refused to pay for the program, alleging a very high price. She gave a deposition today at the end of the morning at the Special Tourist Police station (Deat), in Leblon.
According to a friend of the victim, she met the tourist at dawn this sunday in a boate, in Copacabana. He invited her to go to his apartment.
The two spent the night together, but, in the morning, he refused to pay for the program and started to attack the woman. She cried out and was helped by neighbors.

She musta been new to this, next time she'll have a knife.

Capt Ajax
12-05-05, 23:16
For the Portuguese languaged challenged, I've translated to the best of my abliities:

Sunday, dec 4, 2005 11:42a

Tourist beats prostitute over expensive program

A prostitute was beaten in Rio by an American who refused to pay for the program, alleging a very high price. She gave a deposition today at the end of the morning at the Special Tourist Police station (Deat), in Leblon.
According to a friend of the victim, she met the tourist at dawn this sunday in a boate, in Copacabana. He invited her to go to his apartment.
The two spent the night together, but, in the morning, he refused to pay for the program and started to attack the woman. She cried out and was helped by neighbors.

She musta been new to this, next time she'll have a knife.

Since she did not have a knife this might be a blackmail scam. She asks for more money, he refuses, and then she claims she was beaten. As a tourist a foreign jail is the last place you want to be. Now, if he did beat her then the fool deserves everything he is going to get.

Java Man
12-06-05, 01:43
SD:
only reason this is news is because an "american" is involved. and by "american" they mean US citizen. they like reporting on americans f*cking up in there country. only way the local media will report a GDP getting beat up by a brasilian is if she winds up dead...maybe. i'm surprised that only O Dia pick-up the story.
blackmail, I find that unlikely. one thing is certain, it's gonna cost this bonehead a lot more $$$$$$ to make this go away.

Akatakyie
12-10-05, 00:34
Where can I stay or get a nice apartment "not COPA" for a decent price?

James Howard
12-12-05, 21:46
The real is at 2.26 and weakening further in response to slowing growth and the likelihood of another rate cut from BCB. What ever happened to the self-proclaimed genius Lucio's prediction of 2.11? Didn't somebody bet him a L'uomo entrance?

Time to collect.

Yankee 617
12-14-05, 03:10
I just completed a trip to Brazil. As usual, I obtained all my cash from ATMs using my credit card. Below are my five transactions.

All transactions drawn on my USAA Gold Mastercard which has no annual fee and has no cash withdrawal fees. In addition, I typically overpay my last statement before I travel to establish a positive cash balance thereby avoiding interest charges. I believe this represents the best reasonably predictable value that I can get for currency exchange.

Transaction Date: Dec 9, 2005*
Settlement Date: Dec 12, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$300.00
Amount Charged: (US$135.33)

Transaction Date: Dec 2, 2005*
Settlement Date: Dec 5, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$183.38)

Transaction Date: Nov 27, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 28, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$181.05)

Transaction Date: Nov 25, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 28, 2005
ATM: BRADESCO
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$180.92)

Transaction Date: Nov 22, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 23, 2005
ATM: BRADESCO
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$182.60)

Does anyone think they can do substantially better than this?

PS) Note that a few ATMs (notably certain ATMs at the Sao Paulo airport) try to charge an additional fee. When this occurs, I simply cancel the transaction and move on to ather ATM.

Monger#77
12-17-05, 07:16
Where in Brazil is a good place to meet non-sex working white girls? Specific cities? I know the south is good, but where?

Zorglub
12-18-05, 01:46
I just completed a trip to Brazil. As usual, I obtained all my cash from ATMs using my credit card. Below are my five transactions.

All transactions drawn on my USAA Gold Mastercard which has no annual fee and has no cash withdrawal fees. In addition, I typically overpay my last statement before I travel to establish a positive cash balance thereby avoiding interest charges. I believe this represents the best reasonably predictable value that I can get for currency exchange.

Transaction Date: Dec 9, 2005*
Settlement Date: Dec 12, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$300.00
Amount Charged: (US$135.33)

Transaction Date: Dec 2, 2005*
Settlement Date: Dec 5, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$183.38)

Transaction Date: Nov 27, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 28, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$181.05)

Transaction Date: Nov 25, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 28, 2005
ATM: BRADESCO
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$180.92)

Transaction Date: Nov 22, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 23, 2005
ATM: BRADESCO
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$182.60)

Does anyone think they can do substantially better than this?

PS) Note that a few ATMs (notably certain ATMs at the Sao Paulo airport) try to charge an additional fee. When this occurs, I simply cancel the transaction and move on to ather ATM.
That exchange rate is going a bit over my head but I read that the strong real was hurting Brazil`s exportations and that Brazilians banks were to buy big quantities of $US to counterbalance the tendency.

I don`t know if I understood well but at the end of october when I was in Brasil , I had 2.70 Reais for 1 Euro.
2or 3 weeks ago you could have 2.54 for 1 Euro.
And today you have 2.79 and something for one Euro.

So it make me thinks that Brazsilian government did succeed so far.

And so far so good for us "gringos"

Zorglub
12-18-05, 01:51
Where in Brazil is a good place to meet non-sex working white girls? Specific cities? I know the south is good, but where?

I don`t want to be rude with you but non-pro girls can be met everywhere.

I would say that pro girls are more easily met in certain countrys and certain spots.(like copa if we have to speak of one of the most famous).

Disaster53
12-18-05, 16:15
Hi all,

I'm planning a trip to Brasil in few months. It's my first time there and I would like to know which is the best place for pussy.

I will be in the country for about 3 weeks and I intend to spend few days in the Amazon jungle.

I was thinking to spend few days also in Rio and then go where pussy abound, I was thinking to Fortaleza.

Do you have any other suggestions? Where is possible to find cheap pussy apart from Rio and Fortaleza?

Thanks for the help!

Bravo
12-18-05, 18:51
Where in Brazil is a good place to meet non-sex working white girls? Specific cities? I know the south is good, but where?


One word, Curitiba!!

Monger 3
12-18-05, 21:20
Where can I stay or get a nice apartment "not COPA" for a decent price?

gringomanagement.com or thewonderfulcity.com

I stayed in a great Ipanema studio apartment for $50 this past summer from gringomanagement.com

Monger 3
12-18-05, 21:25
Since she did not have a knife this might be a blackmail scam. She asks for more money, he refuses, and then she claims she was beaten. As a tourist a foreign jail is the last place you want to be. Now, if he did beat her then the fool deserves everything he is going to get.

These Rio girls are the hardest chicks on earth, regardless of how soft that a$$ is. If she was picked up at a boite, she was likely trying to either overcharge the guy or extort him for more money...and since the cops are usually in on these scams, its a lose-lose situation for the guy.

If its not going to be a escort takeout like karlamodels.com.br, I prefer using my Spanish and broken Portuguese toungue to find the pro-girls who seem to not be the biggest trouble makers and likely to provide a better service without the hassle back at my place. This usually takes a few drinks and a bit to eat at the bars, but it results in 2 hours of practicing my Portuguese, and a night of romper room action without the b*tch going crazy...french fries are a great sedative =P

DFWdude
12-19-05, 02:15
I will be in Rio de Janeiro over Superbowl Sunday. I will be staying on Impanema or Copa...Any ideas of where I can watch the "big game" in Rio

Snooky
12-19-05, 02:58
I'd just like to know how you lived off of R$2300 for an 18+ day trip. My CC's now charge a 1% fee for an international transaction plus any ATM fees. I've never used them on trips. I just take enough cash for the trip and would only use a CC for emergencies. Luckily after 10 trips I have had no emergencies yet.


I just completed a trip to Brazil. As usual, I obtained all my cash from ATMs using my credit card. Below are my five transactions.

All transactions drawn on my USAA Gold Mastercard which has no annual fee and has no cash withdrawal fees. In addition, I typically overpay my last statement before I travel to establish a positive cash balance thereby avoiding interest charges. I believe this represents the best reasonably predictable value that I can get for currency exchange.

Transaction Date: Dec 9, 2005*
Settlement Date: Dec 12, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$300.00
Amount Charged: (US$135.33)

Transaction Date: Dec 2, 2005*
Settlement Date: Dec 5, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$183.38)

Transaction Date: Nov 27, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 28, 2005
ATM: BANCO DO BRASIL
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$181.05)

Transaction Date: Nov 25, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 28, 2005
ATM: BRADESCO
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$180.92)

Transaction Date: Nov 22, 2005*
Settlement Date: Nov 23, 2005
ATM: BRADESCO
Amount Withdrawn: R$400.00
Amount Charged: (US$182.60)

Does anyone think they can do substantially better than this?

PS) Note that a few ATMs (notably certain ATMs at the Sao Paulo airport) try to charge an additional fee. When this occurs, I simply cancel the transaction and move on to ather ATM.

Rio Bob
12-19-05, 03:02
I will be in Rio de Janeiro over Superbowl Sunday. I will be staying on Impanema or Copa...Any ideas of where I can watch the "big game" in Rio

There is a fairly new place called The Office right behind Help on the street reight behind Help it is a new sports bar

Euro100
12-20-05, 03:28
There is a fairly new place called The Office right behind Help on the street reight behind Help it is a new sports bar

Yep, easy to find. They also have a good web site:
http://www.theoffice-sportsbar-restaurant-brasil.com/

If you click on entertainment, you can see what NFL games will be shown in a given week!

92a Aires Saldanha, Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. Telephone: (021) 22476114

Yankee 617
12-20-05, 04:45
I'd just like to know how you lived off of R$2300 for an 18+ day trip. My CC's now charge a 1% fee for an international transaction plus any ATM fees. I've never used them on trips. I just take enough cash for the trip and would only use a CC for emergencies. Luckily after 10 trips I have had no emergencies yet.In addition to these cash withdrawals, I charged various items (hotels,
meals, transportation) to another credit card whenever possible.

You might look into the USAA Credit Card. Although many (most?) USAA
services are only for veterans, their CC service is open to all (even me).

Sunset Strip
12-20-05, 20:42
One of you made a negative post about Brazil last year and then ended ny saying that you had either just left or were about to leave in a few days after a long trip there. But then you admitted that within a while you already know that you will begin planning the next trip.

I now realize that I have about a three month span that I can be away from Rio without planning the next trip.

How long is everybody else's?

And I cannot be in Rio for more than 2 weeks before I need to get back to a quiet life in the US!

It's a cycle I have come to accept!

TJ

Rio Bob
12-20-05, 21:27
One of you made a negative post about Brazil last year and then ended ny saying that you had either just left or were about to leave in a few days after a long trip there. But then you admitted that within a while you already know that you will begin planning the next trip.

I now realize that I have about a three month span that I can be away from Rio without planning the next trip.

How long is everybody else's?

And I cannot be in Rio for more than 2 weeks before I need to get back to a quiet life in the US!

It's a cycle I have come to accept!

TJ

I just returned last week from Rio, six days later I booked my next flight. In the past I have done it in 2 days. Not so much because I have to book it but more because if I use mileage and I see the seats I want are available I book it because it might not be available again.

Exec Talent
12-20-05, 21:51
There is a fairly new place called The Office right behind Help on the street reight behind Help it is a new sports bar

When I was there the hostess was simply one of the most strikingly beautiful young women I have ever seen. A reason to go all in itself.

Exec Talent
12-22-05, 18:45
One of the difficulties with adding credits to a cell phone here in Brazil is that the instructions are in Portuguese. Claro has another way which is to just go to their store and enter the number in a keypad. This service also is available at the Sendas (maybe others as well) supermarket.

I just went through the checkout line, asked the clerk for R$50 recharge for Claro (other providers were listed), entered my phone number, hit enter, entered the number again and almost immediately got the R$50 added to my phone. Bonuses are the same (this case $R10) as those available in the Claro store.

Kenny Jams
12-25-05, 07:08
Euro100- Any idea if the bowl games would be on there? I'm gonna be down there for New Years but it would be nice to watch the Rose Bowl.

Kenny Jams
12-25-05, 07:10
Exec- Do any of the cell phone you have found offer caller id blocking?

Nortelx
12-28-05, 05:01
It's on the main drag in Ipanema (Rua Visconde de Piraja near Rua T. do Melo). Go upstairs and you'd never know you're in Brazil.

I was there watching NFL games in November so they might have the bowl games on, too.

No Parlezi
12-28-05, 22:02
Euro100- Any idea if the bowl games would be on there? I'm gonna be down there for New Years but it would be nice to watch the Rose Bowl.I'll be at the Mariot In copa with a beer watching USC spank that ass like 2 garotas in a dupla.

Member #2041
12-30-05, 23:36
I've got a basic question about the hobby. I've got alot of experience with Costa Rica and Thailand, and Mexico, and I've always heard that the only place that might actually be better than Thailand is Brazil. I've heard that this is because of the attitudes of the ladies, who are really into the sex as well as the money, so I am considering my first trip to Brazil.

My question is this: I'm quite a bit overweight. (5'8" tall 270 pounds) This has NEVER caused me any difficulty whatsoever in Costa Rica, or in Thailand, as the only thing the ladies seem to care about in these locations is how fat my wallet is. But I have heard that the ladies in Brazil are much more into the physical attractiveness of their clients than are the P4P ladies anywhere else. While this might certainly work to the advantage of a good looking young guy, I am equally concerned that it will work against me in Rio and elsewhere in Brazil, much more so than in other locations.

Any thoughts or relevant experience?

El Austriaco
12-31-05, 00:07
I've got a basic question about the hobby. I've got alot of experience with Costa Rica and Thailand, and Mexico, and I've always heard that the only place that might actually be better than Thailand is Brazil. I've heard that this is because of the attitudes of the ladies, who are really into the sex as well as the money, so I am considering my first trip to Brazil.

My question is this: I'm quite a bit overweight. (5'8" tall 270 pounds) This has NEVER caused me any difficulty whatsoever in Costa Rica, or in Thailand, as the only thing the ladies seem to care about in these locations is how fat my wallet is. But I have heard that the ladies in Brazil are much more into the physical attractiveness of their clients than are the P4P ladies anywhere else. While this might certainly work to the advantage of a good looking young guy, I am equally concerned that it will work against me in Rio and elsewhere in Brazil, much more so than in other locations.

Any thoughts or relevant experience?
Don't worry. The past few times I've been to Rio, I remember this handicapped guy hanging out in Meia Pataca all the time (who could hardly walk WITH crutches), and he didn't seem to have any problem pulling the ladies. I've seen 70-year old foreigners pick up GDPs in front of Help. So I don't think that weight really should be any issue. Stick to the pros and the Copacabana joints and the termas, and the only way anyone will ever discriminate is based on the size of your wallet. I've been mongering in quite a few other places, and no, Rio (or Brazil, for that matter) is not different from anywhere else. Welcome to the cidade maravilhosa, and happy mongering.

EA

Rio Bob
12-31-05, 00:12
I've got a basic question about the hobby. I've got alot of experience with Costa Rica and Thailand, and Mexico, and I've always heard that the only place that might actually be better than Thailand is Brazil. I've heard that this is because of the attitudes of the ladies, who are really into the sex as well as the money, so I am considering my first trip to Brazil.

My question is this: I'm quite a bit overweight. (5'8" tall 270 pounds) This has NEVER caused me any difficulty whatsoever in Costa Rica, or in Thailand, as the only thing the ladies seem to care about in these locations is how fat my wallet is. But I have heard that the ladies in Brazil are much more into the physical attractiveness of their clients than are the P4P ladies anywhere else. While this might certainly work to the advantage of a good looking young guy, I am equally concerned that it will work against me in Rio and elsewhere in Brazil, much more so than in other locations.

Any thoughts or relevant experience?

Good question and I'll give you my take on this and my experience. I am currently 5' 7" tall at 175 lbs. I go to the gym 7 days a week and sometimes twice a day plus I watch my diet, Im in great shape for my age. In recent years in returning to Rio I have been up to 30 lbs heavier sometimes 15 sometimes 20, it fluctuates. I will tell you that the response I get when I am at my best weight which is in the 170 - 180 range is a big difference in the sexual experience than when I have 20 - 30 lbs extra on me. When Im at my best weight in Help for example they stop me in Help to talk to me, when I am at a bad weight its harder to get them to talk to me and I see that their performance is lacking.

As a result of this I use my upcoming Rio trips as goals to get in better shape as I know that my vacation experience there will be greatly enhanced if I look good. These Brasilian woman are not shy about giving out compliments, when I am at my best weight they always stop me and tell me how elegant i look, handsome, sexy and despite my age it is a plus for them because they tell me they much prefer a good looking older gentleman rather than a young stud because they are much more experienced and take their time.

if you cannot reduce by the time of your next trip then my advice to you is to seek out the termas's that are so popular in Rio as it is more of a brothel style with a captive audience as it seems it is harder to turn someone down in a termas as opposed to a place like Help which is more like a regular club. That's not to say you couldn't have any luck in Help, Im sure you can because for sure money talks in Rio too.

California Guy
12-31-05, 00:33
Well first I am getting my final planning done for my Brazil trip, this is my first, so I am very excited. At this time I am still having trouble about where I should go because I want to have fun with the ladies but also enjoy Brazil itself and relax on the beaches. Can anyone give me advice on what they would do for 24 days? Right now I am thinking 5-7 days in SP, then to Florpa for 5, Rio for 5, and finish my trip in Fortaleza, actually split up my SP trip into two seperate stays of 3 days. Should I cut out Florpa? I have heard it is gorgeous and to be honest I am not into African American women that much, nothing against them because I did one a couple weeks back but she was smoking hot and I was horny :) lol still I would have chosen a dark skinned mulato girl over her in a second because it is what I really like. If I did this then my trip would consist of SP, Rio, and Fortaleza unless I go to Bahia as well but I would assume it is similar to Fortaleza?

Okay also will anyone be around either for Carnaval or after? I will be leaving next month, not sure exact dates, but I will be there either for Carnaval or go right after when it is a little cheaper. I would like to hook up with some people who want to have fun down there, experienced or not. By the way, how does carnaval affect the scene in terms of the ladies? Is it more of a negative or positive in terms of things like the number of girls available, quality, etc... I can picture this both ways as there could be more girls working but then there could be less because of the celebrations. Also with more guys all over it maybe worse to find hot girls and so on. Just curious about the way that works :)

Thanks,
Cali

James Howard
12-31-05, 01:09
Well first I am getting my final planning done for my Brazil trip, this is my first, so I am very excited. At this time I am still having trouble about where I should go because I want to have fun with the ladies but also enjoy Brazil itself and relax on the beaches. Can anyone give me advice on what they would do for 24 days? Right now I am thinking 5-7 days in SP, then to Florpa for 5, Rio for 5, and finish my trip in Fortaleza, actually split up my SP trip into two seperate stays of 3 days. Should I cut out Florpa? I have heard it is gorgeous and to be honest I am not into African American women that much, nothing against them because I did one a couple weeks back but she was smoking hot and I was horny :) lol still I would have chosen a dark skinned mulato girl over her in a second because it is what I really like. If I did this then my trip would consist of SP, Rio, and Fortaleza unless I go to Bahia as well but I would assume it is similar to Fortaleza?

Okay also will anyone be around either for Carnaval or after? I will be leaving next month, not sure exact dates, but I will be there either for Carnaval or go right after when it is a little cheaper. I would like to hook up with some people who want to have fun down there, experienced or not. By the way, how does carnaval affect the scene in terms of the ladies? Is it more of a negative or positive in terms of things like the number of girls available, quality, etc... I can picture this both ways as there could be more girls working but then there could be less because of the celebrations. Also with more guys all over it maybe worse to find hot girls and so on. Just curious about the way that works :)

Thanks,
CaliMy thought is that if you have never been to Brazil, spend the whole time in Rio. Trust me, what'll happen if you do otherwise is that you'll come to Rio first and be blown away by the termas here, and afterwards, you'll go up to Nordeste and just be disappointed (different kinds of establishments up there, less of the terma atmosphere). Rio is like a melting-pot of women. You want blondes? You got it. Brunettes? Take two. Mulatta? Nao vai ser um problema. If you are just rolling in money, take a trip to Sao Paulo and get yourself some "high-class" women, or even down to Southern Brazil for a few days, but in general, I've just been pretty disappointed elsewhere in Brazil (in terms of mongering, for tourist purposes it is still very good though).

During Carnaval, you will have some of the best Brazil has to offer, and at some of the prices you might expect to see back there in California. But, you'll still have a good time.

Trust me, Rio all the way. You won't regret it.

Chezz
12-31-05, 02:11
In terms of whether or not to venture out of Rio, you may want to. But I have a hard time imagining how much better it can get elsewhere. I'm here now, sitting in an apartment on Miguel Lemos overlooking the scene at Help, and marking time till the 11:30pm front door rush starts.

I arrived yesterday and it was a beautiful sunny day. After a day at the beach and a snack at Kilograma, I made my way to Centaurus. And while there were a few of the old-timer chicks, there were also a ton of new ones. My first was Tatiana.

Chezz
12-31-05, 02:15
In terms of whether or not to venture out of Rio, you may want to. But I have a hard time imagining how much better it can get elsewhere. I'm here now, sitting in an apartment on Miguel Lemos overlooking the scene at Help, and marking time till the 11:30pm front door rush starts.

I arrived yesterday and it was a beautiful sunny day. After a day at the beach and a snack at Kilograma, I made my way to Centaurus. And while there were a few of the old-timer chicks, there were also a ton of new ones. My first was Tatiana, a brunette with a body like Candy Loving (anybody remember the Playboy 25 anniversary Playmate? Think of her, but with darker hair). The second way Laura, a short-haired sassy chick with natural tits that defied gravity. I was sure they were fake, until I saw them up close. That Terma has it's downside, but I'll certainly deal with them if it means an experience like last night. A top 5 mongering experience, to be sure.

I just got a call from a friend, but I'll fill in the blanks as time allows.

Lorenzo
12-31-05, 04:12
California Guy,

The answer to your question depends on whether the primary focus of your trip will be mongering, or whether you want to make it a trip whose primary purpose is to experience Brazil, while mongering on the side. I hope it is the latter, because it will make for a much more interesting trip. So, I'll base my suggestions on the assumption that this is the case. I'm also assuming you have enough money to get around, because it sounds like it does.

24 days is a helluva long time for a first trip. You should be able to see quite a bit during that period. To begin with, I'm not clear why you want to go to Sao Paolo at all, let alone spend so much time there. I'll admit I've never been there, but that's because I never had any desire to go. I've never heard anything positive about SP. Supposedly the mongering scene there is good but expensive. Other than that, SP is larger than New York or London but reputedly 100 times more chaotic. Supposedly you can spend hours stuck in traffic. Is this what you want to do on your vacation? So I suggest skipping SP entirely.

I suggest you focus your trip on 4 places: Rio, Salvador, Manaus, and Foz de Iguacu, although not necessarily in that order. Let me discuss each briefly:

Salvador: this is in Bahia, in the northeast. This is the center of Afro-Brazilian culture and a fascinating place to visit. If you take a day trip or tour away from the city and into the interior, you might actually think you are in Africa. If you don't care for black women, there are plenty of mulatas, which you say you like. The mongering scene in Salvador is pretty good. I went to a termas named Special-Relax--a taxi driver can find it for you--and had several luscious young mulatas over the course of a few days. There are a few other mongering sites there, as well as escort services. Salvador is worth 4-5 days. While you're there you should try to see a candomble ceremony, or at least a simulated one, and a martial arts performance (there's a name for it, but right now I can't recall it).

Manaus: this is the gateway to the Amazon, and any trip to Brazil is incomplete without going to the Amazon. I didn't do any mongering there, nor did I try, but I understand that it can be done. I took a 3-hour boat ride up the Amazon, or rather the Rio Negro, to Ariau Jungle Lodge, where you can take day trips and see wildlife galore. If you don't arrange a jungle trip before you leave for Brazil, you can arrange one when you get there. I suggest spending one night in Manaus, during which you can check out the mongering scene, then leave the next day for a jungle trip. One day for Manaus, 3-4 for the jungle.

Foz de Iguacu: simply one of the natural wonders of the world. Stay at the Cataratas Hotel, which is inside a national park. There is a mongering scene available in the town, but I can't speak for it first hand. Read the reports on the forum. If you're feeling adventurous, you can cross the border into Paraguay and take a bus to Ciudad del Este, which has a frontier, wild west flavor to it. Just be sure you have a multiple entry Brazilian visa, or you may have trouble getting back into Brazil. Other than the falls, there isn't much interesting about FdeI, so I wouldn't give it more than 2 days, maybe even one.

Rio: undoubtedly the pussy capital of the world. I don't need to say anything about it because there's plenty of information on this forum. I would spend the balance of your trip here. You like beaches, there are plenty of them, and women that are to die for. Enjoy!

Member #2041,

You have nothing to worry about. I am well over my optimal weight myself and built like a sumo wrestler, yet I have had no trouble whatever getting pussy in Rio. Walking down Av. Atlantica I have had women approach me multiple times, and they would probably do this even if I looked like Mr. Hyde. The only weight they're interested in is the weight of your wallet. So as I said to California Guy, enjoy!

Lorenzo

El Austriaco
12-31-05, 07:56
While you're there you should try to see a candomble ceremony, or at least a simulated one, and a martial arts performance (there's a name for it, but right now I can't recall it).
Capoeira. Can vouch for the soundness of the other recommendations regarding Bahia and Rio. Manaus and FdI, I still need to check out myself.

Euro100
12-31-05, 19:10
I completely second Lorenzo.

Foz Iguazu is definitely worth two days. The Brazilian side is much more impressive as far as the view goes, because you can see the much bigger Argentinian falls from there. A trip to Paraguay is worth it; you can get incredible deals on consumer electronics there. Stay away from the drug scene! Mongering scene in Foz is iffy at best.

Sao Paulo: I have been there 10 times and really have nothing special to say about it. It is HUGE, even much bigger than Los Angeles and NYC. Good food, nice people. BUt no real tourist sights, and the mongering scene is much more expensive than Rio.

Rio: I am gushing, go there as long as you can.

Bahia: Very cool to go and see some native culture. Take lots of pics, just like at Iguazu. This way you have something to show to the folks at home when you get back. (Also take some pics of pussy in Rio, but post them on this board ;)) Take a three-day cruise on the Amazon.

Enjoy
euro