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Socker
06-16-12, 16:48
Yo Gents, I've been to Medellin twice now and plan on returning soon (September) but I would also like to see Cartagena and experience that city. That said, I'm not the most experienced traveler when it comes to booking flights. Is it best to do a RT trip to MDE and then a short RT to CTG, finishing up in MDE. Or is it most common to do one way fares to MDE (for 6 days) one way to CTG (4 days) and then back home from CTG to LAX. I know a lot of guys here are very experienced travelers and I would like to get their opinions if possible. Hope it's not a dumb question. The short flight from MDE to CTG seems very high ($300 RT). I guess if I want to visit 2 cities (in Colombia) it will add almost $500 to the cost of travel I / e air and taxi. Any info and advice would be great.

Thanks

Hillbilly69
06-17-12, 01:33
Yo Gents, I've been to Medellin twice now and plan on returning soon (September) but I would also like to see Cartagena and experience that city. That said, I'm not the most experienced traveler when it comes to booking flights. Is it best to do a RT trip to MDE and then a short RT to CTG, finishing up in MDE. Or is it most common to do one way fares to MDE (for 6 days) one way to CTG (4 days) and then back home from CTG to LAX. I know a lot of guys here are very experienced travelers and I would like to get their opinions if possible. Hope it's not a dumb question. The short flight from MDE to CTG seems very high ($300 RT). I guess if I want to visit 2 cities (in Colombia) it will add almost $500 to the cost of travel I / e air and taxi. Any info and advice would be great.

ThanksHttp://www.vivacolombia.co/

Plus round way taxi for extra airport but that goes without saying.

MiamiHeatLuver
06-17-12, 02:20
Yo Gents, I've been to Medellin twice now and plan on returning soon (September) but I would also like to see Cartagena and experience that city. That said, I'm not the most experienced traveler when it comes to booking flights. Is it best to do a RT trip to MDE and then a short RT to CTG, finishing up in MDE. Or is it most common to do one way fares to MDE (for 6 days) one way to CTG (4 days) and then back home from CTG to LAX. I know a lot of guys here are very experienced travelers and I would like to get their opinions if possible. Hope it's not a dumb question. The short flight from MDE to CTG seems very high ($300 RT). I guess if I want to visit 2 cities (in Colombia) it will add almost $500 to the cost of travel I / e air and taxi. Any info and advice would be great.

ThanksThat is very high, ctg-lax seems more sensible if there is a direct flight ctg-lax, buying in sdvance helps a lot, check al the colombian airlines, Aero republica, avianca, satena, copa, Aires, go too their sites and check availability, buying in advance, dates and times make all the difference also if you have a trusted friend with a colombian credit card who can buy you a ticket this makes a big difference as well to avoid the "gringo surcharge" some airlines charge you more if you use an american credit card as oppose to a colombian generated credit card (I know its real bullshit) , also you can walk in to a travel agent and pay effectivo "cash"

Socker
06-17-12, 19:33
That is very high, ctg-lax seems more sensible if there is a direct flight ctg-lax, buying in sdvance helps a lot, check al the colombian airlines, Aero republica, avianca, satena, copa, Aires, go too their sites and check availability, buying in advance, dates and times make all the difference also if you have a trusted friend with a colombian credit card who can buy you a ticket this makes a big difference as well to avoid the "gringo surcharge" some airlines charge you more if you use an american credit card as oppose to a colombian generated credit card (I know its real bullshit) , also you can walk in to a travel agent and pay effectivo "cash"I just went to vivacolombia and the fare was $38 from CTG to MDE so I guess I am freaking STOKED again. Thanks MHL and Hillbilly for your valuable help. I will check the other airlines and pull the trigger soon for my next trip. You guys made my day.

Cheers,

S

Manizales911
06-17-12, 22:19
I just went to vivacolombia and the fare was $38 from CTG to MDE so I guess I am freaking STOKED again. Thanks MHL and Hillbilly for your valuable help. I will check the other airlines and pull the trigger soon for my next trip. You guys made my day.

Cheers,

SMake sure you have a backup plan in case they cancel. Viva is a brand new airline and their very first flight out of Bogota to Buca had to be diverted for not having clearance to land or some shit like that, you get what you pay for sometimes. I would love to be able to fly from one city to another in Colombia for less than $100. But every time a company tries to do it they fall flat on their face.

Hanshin Baka
06-17-12, 23:22
Yo Gents, I've been to Medellin twice now and plan on returning soon (September) but I would also like to see Cartagena and experience that city. That said, I'm not the most experienced traveler when it comes to booking flights. Is it best to do a RT trip to MDE and then a short RT to CTG, finishing up in MDE. Or is it most common to do one way fares to MDE (for 6 days) one way to CTG (4 days) and then back home from CTG to LAX. I know a lot of guys here are very experienced travelers and I would like to get their opinions if possible. Hope it's not a dumb question. The short flight from MDE to CTG seems very high ($300 RT). I guess if I want to visit 2 cities (in Colombia) it will add almost $500 to the cost of travel I / e air and taxi. Any info and advice would be great.

ThanksSocker.

There are no direct flights LAX to CTG. The good news is that the COPA flight LAX to PTY is a great option. You can then enjoy a few nights in PTY (no layover fees) or continue on to CTG and MDE flying back to LAX all on COPA. I am not a Cartagena fan and usually just fly LAX to MDE on COPA. The layover in Panama is short.

Mr OReilly
06-23-12, 02:51
Hey guys, what are your thoughts on this.

I am going to Colombia in December for a vacation. I have two weeks and I am going to spend a couple days in Bogota, a week in Medellin, and about 5 days in Santa Marta with a friend of mine before I fly to Costa Rica for 3 days to finish it off.

I want to monger in Medellin. I have been there three times before and know the lay of the land well enough. My spanish is good enough to talk with people about basic things and understand what they are saying to me. I wanted to rent an apartment for the week and just bring broads back, I won't be banging 3 a day more like 1-2. Do you think this is a good idea? I won't know any girls before I arrive. Is it awkward bringing them back to an apartment?

How dangerous is mongering there? I have walked around el centro, but never out at night by myself. I am 25 so I don't look like an easy old man to rob! Will it be easy to find pussy? What is the going rate for an hour? 100K? Any other advice?

Thanks guys! Really looking forward to this trip, Colombianas are so hot.

Ricker
06-23-12, 12:06
Hey guys, what are your thoughts on this.

I am going to Colombia in December for a vacation. I have two weeks and I am going to spend a couple days in Bogota, a week in Medellin, and about 5 days in Santa Marta with a friend of mine before I fly to Costa Rica for 3 days to finish it off.

I want to monger in Medellin. I have been there three times before and know the lay of the land well enough. My spanish is good enough to talk with people about basic things and understand what they are saying to me. I wanted to rent an apartment for the week and just bring broads back, I won't be banging 3 a day more like 1-2. Do you think this is a good idea? I won't know any girls before I arrive. Is it awkward bringing them back to an apartment?

How dangerous is mongering there? I have walked around el centro, but never out at night by myself. I am 25 so I don't look like an easy old man to rob! Will it be easy to find pussy? What is the going rate for an hour? 100K? Any other advice?

Thanks guys! Really looking forward to this trip, Colombianas are so hot.Yep, great plan except for the Costa Rica part haha.

Have fun!

And PS; Does it really matter if you're 25 or an old man, walking alone in el Central at night when some crazed dude shoves a pistol or knife at you?

Be smart too.

It's easy to find chicas in the daytime and make hookups for later.

TweedleD
06-24-12, 04:42
Hey guys, what are your thoughts on this.

I am going to Colombia in December for a vacation. I have two weeks and I am going to spend a couple days in Bogota, a week in Medellin, and about 5 days in Santa Marta with a friend of mine before I fly to Costa Rica for 3 days to finish it off.

I want to monger in Medellin. I have been there three times before and know the lay of the land well enough. My spanish is good enough to talk with people about basic things and understand what they are saying to me. I wanted to rent an apartment for the week and just bring broads back, I won't be banging 3 a day more like 1-2. Do you think this is a good idea? I won't know any girls before I arrive. Is it awkward bringing them back to an apartment?

How dangerous is mongering there? I have walked around el centro, but never out at night by myself. I am 25 so I don't look like an easy old man to rob! How dangerous is mongering there? What is the going rate for an hour? 100K? Any other advice?

Thanks guys! Really looking forward to this trip, Colombianas are so hot." I won't be banging 3 a day more like 1-2. Do you think this is a good idea?" I think its a good idea to bang as many as you possibly can! At 25 yrs old I'd go for 6 a day!"I won't know any girls before I arrive." I'd work Romance latina, Colombia cupid, facebook, ect. You could probably have two hundred contacts before you arrive!"Is it awkward bringing them back to an apartment?" Not at all, except the doorman sometimes raises an eyebrow and is a little jealous, also you might want to be careful that the ho you're bringing home isn't looking to drug or rob you? And sometimes the niebors give you stink eye for bringing hoes into their building."How dangerous is mongering there?" You never know? There have been very few reported cases of druggings and roberies, but. You never know when its your turn?"What is the going rate for an hour? 100K?" Depends on your negociating skills, and what the prepago thinks her stuff is worth, I've done as low as 50k for two hours and as much as 150k for an hour and a half."Any other advice?" Read the forum

SwagMeOut
06-26-12, 02:42
Ok here goes!

My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.

At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex!

However, as I did more research, and found South America is an alternative to South East Asia for sex touring, I straight away thought about Colombia. In my opinion Latino women from the Caribbean and South America are the best looking in the world. So basically my head says Philippines, my heart, sorry my dick says Colombia lmao.

No matter how much I think otherwise I'm set on going to South America, those are the girls that really do it for me and where I will truly enjoy myself. So I have to ask a few questions, because I have gathered more information on the Philippines but find it harder to do so for Colombia and therefore find the trip more uncomfortable.

I'm planning on taking Spanish lessons just out of a general interest over here in the UK shortly (before I decided on this trip) so I'm hoping it can just 'get me by' as my plan is to take the trip in December. 6 months from now unless suggested otherwise by people here for better dates.

I would like to know where I can go where there is a balance of the best beaches, restaurants, hotels and of course pros! From my research South East Asia is much cheaper, so somewhere as close to the prices over there is helpful, as cheap as I can go while getting a balance of the things I'm looking for.

Of course going on my own, safety is a priority. I'm 24 tall and very athletic, can handle myself well and I'm streetwise. I know this can't help with a pistol pointed in my face but just wanted readers to be aware I'm young and not vulnerable. I'm a smart guy so I don't intend on taking silly risks like moving around early hours on my own for those who might warn me of the dangers. But of course for this to be taken into consideration, the safer resorts / cities would be good to know, again while keeping in mind the things I asked before. If someone can't tell me in detail, maybe they could at least point me to the right threads on here. It would be massively appreciated. Thanks for reading guys!

TweedleD
06-26-12, 06:52
"I would like to know where I can go where there is a balance of the best beaches, restaurants, hotels and of course pros! From my research South East Asia is much cheaper, so somewhere as close to the prices over there is helpful, as cheap as I can go while getting a balance of the things I'm looking for.

If you really like the looks of Colombian girls and you live in the UK, for what you'd save in airfare, you're really better off going to Barcelona,

BayBoy
06-26-12, 14:38
Ok here goes!

My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.

At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex!My suggestion is Costa Rica. You can get by with minimal Spanish. Its fairly safe, you get the Latina girls and the beaches are nice on the West coast (Jaco etc.)

You can also consider the Dominican Republic, St. Martin or even Cuba. In Colombia the beach towns are Cartagena and Santa Marta, but you have the language problem.

Ricker
06-26-12, 19:11
Ok here goes!

My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.

At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex!Well, you'd have a great time in Medellin, Colombia.

The Mansion would suit you well, however, there's obviously no white sand or beaches there for ya, just a pool surrounded by hot Colombianas.

Cartagena has a beach, but not really a nice one.

You will find plenty of hot Colombianas there, but you'll most likely pay the gringo prices due to language barrier and first timer naIvety.

Rio de Janeiro, Brazil has beautiful beaches and beautiful girls too.

If you read up on the varias guides that are written about the place, you can have a great time there too.

Can get expensive if you don't know what's up there, though the US dollar is getting stronger recently (not sure about Brit $).

See Bubba's guide in the Brazil section and read a poster named Sperto's guide / maps / posts.

Good luck, enjoy!

Zing23
06-26-12, 20:10
Ok here goes!

My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour.I have been all over Colombia, lived in the Caribbean and learned about mongering from visiting Colombianas in St Maarten (with a great beach also) and I have been to the Philippines once.

I would look at air connections and price from UK to different destinations.

I don't know if you will find both good beaches and mongering in the same location in the Philippines, but perhaps Thailand.

Colombia does not have good beaches and mongering in the same location.

Brazil and the Caribbean DO HAVE good beaches and mongering in the same location (check the threads for Rio, and St Maarten and Curacao in the Lesser Antilles thread). Give some thought to which time of year. Dec to May for the Caribbean, don't know what time is best for Rio but when I was there for Carnival in February everything was 3 times the price.

-zing

Combo
06-27-12, 01:42
Ok here goes!

My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.

At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex!

However, as I did more research, and found South America is an alternative to South East Asia for sex touring, I straight away thought about Colombia. In my opinion Latino women from the Caribbean and South America are the best looking in the world. So basically my head says Philippines, my heart, sorry my dick says Colombia lmao.

No matter how much I think otherwise I'm set on going to South America, those are the girls that really do it for me and where I will truly enjoy myself. So I have to ask a few questions, because I have gathered more information on the Philippines but find it harder to do so for Colombia and therefore find the trip more uncomfortable.

I'm planning on taking Spanish lessons just out of a general interest over here in the UK shortly (before I decided on this trip) so I'm hoping it can just 'get me by' as my plan is to take the trip in December. 6 months from now unless suggested otherwise by people here for better dates.

I would like to know where I can go where there is a balance of the best beaches, restaurants, hotels and of course pros! From my research South East Asia is much cheaper, so somewhere as close to the prices over there is helpful, as cheap as I can go while getting a balance of the things I'm looking for.

Of course going on my own, safety is a priority. I'm 24 tall and very athletic, can handle myself well and I'm streetwise. I know this can't help with a pistol pointed in my face but just wanted readers to be aware I'm young and not vulnerable. I'm a smart guy so I don't intend on taking silly risks like moving around early hours on my own for those who might warn me of the dangers. But of course for this to be taken into consideration, the safer resorts / cities would be good to know, again while keeping in mind the things I asked before. If someone can't tell me in detail, maybe they could at least point me to the right threads on here. It would be massively appreciated. Thanks for reading guys!Swag. Have you thought about Phuket, Thailand? It would seem to have everything you're after .

Beautiful beaches, hot chicks, great hotels and food, and reasonable priced. I generally like Latinas.

Better than Asians, but the Thai women are very hot.

Medellin is a great place, but there's no beach. I'm with you, a beach really makes a vacation destination.

If you do go to Medellin, definitely stay at the Mansion or Castillo, where you'll have fellow mongers to help.

You out. Hanging out at either place is a nice way to spend a week or so.

Cartagena the beach is lousy and it's more expensive than MDE.

I don't think the beach is that great in Jaco (Costa Rica) either.

If you like Mulattas, Dominican Republic is great. Nice beaches, inexpensive, girls tend to be good

Performers.

Of course, if money is no object, just go to Rio. Though not as good as it used to be, it's still a magnificent destination.

On second thought, why not try all of the above, and then decide for yourself what's your favorite!

SwagMeOut
06-27-12, 02:22
Firstly thank you to everyone that replied, honestly when you're a newb to something and post on a forum, I expected I'd probably get negative replies. So thanks for helping and the.

Info.

The price of return flights from the UK to the Philippines or Colombia is roughly the same cost around £5-600 (800-900 US$)

Any country with hot latina women I would be happy with, (which has the hottest? Ha of course that's subjective but recommendations would be good!) just as cheap as possible with a nice beach etc as I mentioned before, Brazil sounds a good option I like the thought of that. I just didn't know they had a big mongering scene down there, as I say I'm very new to this, everything pointed to Thailand as number one in South East Asia or Colombia in South America. So I will defo check Brazil forum out.

Caribbean seems like it would be too expensive, I would like to visit one of the countries that has a weak currency. Why not live like a king for a bit.

Again Barcelona would be great for the women, and I mean flights from here in the UK are real cheap as low as (or lower) £80 return ($125). Only problem is things are expensive out there on the Euro, for the women it's 60 Euro/£50/$80 for what I believe is 30 minutes! No different from the UK, price wise I'd have to clarify time. But it's not like you can get them all night cheap.

The first thing I found about mongering in South America was Costa Rica, it's only that I heard Colombia was better in most ways from various research, unless you guys disagree? And yeh I heard the beach in Cartagena was bad, I think somewhere on here, so I guess from what I'm reading here beaches and babes are separate trips when visiting Colombia. Surprised because I thought being South America / Caribbean beach and seas they would be some of the best the world has to offer!

I know Cebu has good beaches and good mongering, is very cheap and they speak English, maybe as I'm going by myself and for the first time it would be wise to check that out first to get my wits about me. Then move on to the South American beauties.

Damn I love my latina women though LOL.

Last thing, I'm guessing going on these trips are your own is not a big problem, have many of you guys done the same without any issues?

Big thanks in advance

TweedleD
06-27-12, 15:23
"Last thing, I'm guessing going on these trips are your own is not a big problem, have many of you guys done the same without any issues?

I usually travel alone, I have never encountered "big problems" But there is always the potencial for big problems, and there's a pretty good probability of some minor annoyances. Crappy food, lost cab drivers, hotels that arent quite up to the standards you saw on the webpage, beggars, glue sniffers, getting caught in traffic at rush hour, travelers diaria, and my alltime favorite is the occasional "stinky pussy"! LOL, Big potential problems are getting robbed, getting drugged, loosing your passport or injury from traffic accidents requiring hospitalization.

Vitrea
06-28-12, 19:55
Ok here goes!

My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.

At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex!

If someone can't tell me in detail, maybe they could at least point me to the right threads on here. It would be massively appreciated. Thanks for reading guys!I agree with Zing. The best combination of beach and sex in the western hemisphere in my order of personal preference are Saint Martin, Rio, Aruba, Curaçao and Dominican Republic (in that order)

Costarica, Panama, Colombia and Argentina have beaches and sex but you have to take sex to the nicer beach, which is not easy to do if you don't speak Spanish.

Bango Cheito
06-29-12, 00:17
Personally I think all city beaches are dirty and nasty, you want good beaches you have to go way off the beaten path; that means no action and BYOP.

When a Colombian wants a beach he goes to Turbo or Gorgona La Guajira or San Andres etc, when he wants to get laid he goes to Medellin or Pereira :P

Gplayer
06-29-12, 07:52
You were humble, didn't make ridiculous sexual prowess claims, ask about Help disco in Rio and had done at least some research. So you didn't get flamed, this time, LOL.

You really can't go wrong with Cebu, Colombia or a myriad of other destinations. Manila and Cebu are the two best destinations in the Phillipines and on a first visit I wouldn't travel any farther south than Cebu as the southern islands are where the terrorists congregate. Most Philipinos speak English well, are very friendly even though they often work 6 days a week for very low wages and on a contract basis which means they can lose their job anytime for any reason, yet they always seem to be smiling. Cebu is smaller and more chill than Manila as the main industry there is tourism. Cebuanas are known as some of the most beautiful women in the Phillipines and as in most Asian cultures they're very service oriented to your needs. Personally find Filipino women to be darker skinned, a little more curvy (prob. Due to the Spanish imperialism) and therefore more attractive than other Asian women but humbly YMMV. Filipinos really like foriegners and basically worship westerners so if you're 24, tall, respectful, friendly, and as Miami Heat likes to say "have a little confidence with women in your own country" than you will be suddenly transformed into a rock star the minute you land in Cebu. The strip clubs are fine but you are often (not always) beseiged by 5. 10 women when you walk thru the door. My preference was the KTV clubs which are a little more expensive but they're very chill and the lineup is often varied & outstanding! Some KTV clubs offer onsite rooms & some do not. The KTVs I visited were all TLN. But know the women often have a mysterious (fake) crisis in the middle of the night & must rush home which is what I prefer anyway. If you choose Cebu. You need to read or PM a guy who's ISG name is Mortman. Coincidentally, he's British, he's also the resident Cebu expert and his posts are knowledgeable, extremely well written and very dry, British funny. Also if you know how to handle yourself with women online than I would recommend joining Filipino Cupid but be warned the Phillipines is a very poor country & your computer will seize up or blow up from all the attention you will receive. Also 90% of the profiles are fake. So you must see them on Messenger or Skype right away or delete them. Trust me if no video chat most likely you're chatting with a 69 year old grandma or a ladyboy. Even if the girl is real, many will ask you to send money within minutes or even seconds. Never send money and move on. When you do connect with a beautiful Filipina online be aware they will want to pick you up at the airport, sink their hooks in and stay with you the whole trip as you're their meal ticket. So first trip don't meet at the airport just say you have made some other plans. With online women always have back up plans as the women are often unrelieable. Have experience so I met a hot. 25 yr old brand model online and she and her sisters picked me up at the airport and 90 minutes later she and I were in my room at the Radisson getting more acquainted. I was honest with her about my intentions and never "lead her on" or any other woman I meet online. But as fate would have it the very next day an incredibly douchy 39 yr old American guy shows up in Cebu to meet her 19 yr old sister. So against my better judgement we decide to meet up with them and evidently he's making the sister all kinds of promises and they're profoundly in love within the first 12 hours of meeting. So we meet them for an early lunch and they're both wearing matching T shirts that say " Love Team"! I have to say I almost laughed and puked in the same moment! (And yes, I saved a picture). So naturally after this display of D'bagggery my girl starts pressuring me so after the 3rd day I had to cut her loose. Overall the Phillipines is a great country but 23 hours on a plane from the states & a 12-13 hour time difference is brutal so now I focus on latinas in Central and S. America.

Colombia is an amazing country with a diversity of hot latinas & the upside is the passionate women and the downside is the passionate women. All latinas will say they don't like drama. But guess what always comes next? Thankfully Colombia is not yet overrun with tourists but this also means not many Colombians speak English. So if you're new to traveling, don't speak Spanish very well & not sure how to handle an occasionally strong tempered latina than maybe Colombia is not best for your first rodeo. However there is the Medellin Mansion / Casa Blanca / Hotel Medellin Plaza or whatever Aussi Greg is calling it these days, LOL. It's well run, has plenty of attractive visitors & even a pool so it's good for a newbie to get his feet or so to speak. Also nearby is Panama City, Panama and it's a great, bustling city with much to do & more people speak English, the dollar is an accepted currency and it's full of hot Colombianas. However for a first timer who's interested in latinas, my best recommendation is the Hotel Del Rey is San Jose, Costa Rica. There are women avail. 24/7 but primetime is 10 pm and later. At night there's a great variety of latinas (70 to 100 Nicas, Ticas, Domincans & Colombians) mostly 6's & 7's who are eager to make your acquaintance. Also Jaco beach on the Pacific coast of C. R. Gives you surf, sun and latinas at various locations esp. The Beatle bar. However the Beatle bar does not keep the women in check so you will be constantly approached which wears thin quickly. Jaco is a good town but not the best of beaches but you can travel 5 mintues down the road to Playa Hermosa for a much better beach and there's a cool hotel and bar called Backyard bar. Many people feel San Jose & the Del Ray is very touristy & has mechanical women but IMHO with all women it comes down to your confidence & skill level especially in detecting & avoiding B. S. And letting the woman know in an amiable & quietly confident way that you're running the show, siempre.

Learn Espanol, be humble, friendly and repsectful of other cultures, master your confidence level interacting with women and you're bound to have some great experiences. Lastly, be aware you're only 24 and after your first successful trip it will undoubtedly change the way you think about women and traditional dating forever, LOL. Best of luck.


Firstly thank you to everyone that replied, honestly when you're a newb to something and post on a forum, I expected I'd probably get negative replies. So thanks for helping and the.

Info.

The price of return flights from the UK to the Philippines or Colombia is roughly the same cost around £5-600 (800-900 US$)

Any country with hot latina women I would be happy with, (which has the hottest? Ha of course that's subjective but recommendations would be good!) just as cheap as possible with a nice beach etc as I mentioned before, Brazil sounds a good option I like the thought of that. I just didn't know they had a big mongering scene down there, as I say I'm very new to this, everything pointed to Thailand as number one in South East Asia or Colombia in South America. So I will defo check Brazil forum out.

Caribbean seems like it would be too expensive, I would like to visit one of the countries that has a weak currency. Why not live like a king for a bit.

Again Barcelona would be great for the women, and I mean flights from here in the UK are real cheap as low as (or lower) £80 return ($125). Only problem is things are expensive out there on the Euro, for the women it's 60 Euro/£50/$80 for what I believe is 30 minutes! No different from the UK, price wise I'd have to clarify time. But it's not like you can get them all night cheap.

The first thing I found about mongering in South America was Costa Rica, it's only that I heard Colombia was better in most ways from various research, unless you guys disagree? And yeh I heard the beach in Cartagena was bad, I think somewhere on here, so I guess from what I'm reading here beaches and babes are separate trips when visiting Colombia. Surprised because I thought being South America / Caribbean beach and seas they would be some of the best the world has to offer!

I know Cebu has good beaches and good mongering, is very cheap and they speak English, maybe as I'm going by myself and for the first time it would be wise to check that out first to get my wits about me. Then move on to the South American beauties.

Damn I love my latina women though LOL.

Last thing, I'm guessing going on these trips are your own is not a big problem, have many of you guys done the same without any issues?

Big thanks in advance

SwagMeOut
06-29-12, 17:04
You were humble, didn't make ridiculous sexual prowess claims, ask about Help disco in Rio and had done at least some research. So you didn't get flamed, this time, LOL.

You really can't go wrong with Cebu, Colombia or a myriad of other destinations. Manila and Cebu are the two best destinations in the Phillipines and on a first visit I wouldn't travel any farther south than Cebu as the southern islands are where the terrorists congregate. Most Philipinos speak English well, are very friendly even though they often work 6 days a week for very low wages and on a contract basis which means they can lose their job anytime for any reason, yet they always seem to be smiling. Cebu is smaller and more chill than Manila as the main industry there is tourism. Cebuanas are known as some of the most beautiful women in the Phillipines and as in most Asian cultures they're very service oriented to your needs. Personally find Filipino women to be darker skinned, a little more curvy (prob. Due to the Spanish imperialism) and therefore more attractive than other Asian women but humbly YMMV. Filipinos really like foriegners and basically worship westerners so if you're 24, tall, respectful, friendly, and as Miami Heat likes to say "have a little confidence with women in your own country" than you will be suddenly transformed into a rock star the minute you land in Cebu. The strip clubs are fine but you are often (not always) beseiged by 5. 10 women when you walk thru the door. My preference was the KTV clubs which are a little more expensive but they're very chill and the lineup is often varied & outstanding! Some KTV clubs offer onsite rooms & some do not. The KTVs I visited were all TLN. But know the women often have a mysterious (fake) crisis in the middle of the night & must rush home which is what I prefer anyway. If you choose Cebu. You need to read or PM a guy who's ISG name is Mortman. Coincidentally, he's British, he's also the resident Cebu expert and his posts are knowledgeable, extremely well written and very dry, British funny. Also if you know how to handle yourself with women online than I would recommend joining Filipino Cupid but be warned the Phillipines is a very poor country & your computer will seize up or blow up from all the attention you will receive. Also 90% of the profiles are fake. So you must see them on Messenger or Skype right away or delete them. Trust me if no video chat most likely you're chatting with a 69 year old grandma or a ladyboy. Even if the girl is real, many will ask you to send money within minutes or even seconds. Never send money and move on. When you do connect with a beautiful Filipina online be aware they will want to pick you up at the airport, sink their hooks in and stay with you the whole trip as you're their meal ticket. So first trip don't meet at the airport just say you have made some other plans. With online women always have back up plans as the women are often unrelieable. Have experience so I met a hot. 25 yr old brand model online and she and her sisters picked me up at the airport and 90 minutes later she and I were in my room at the Radisson getting more acquainted. I was honest with her about my intentions and never "lead her on" or any other woman I meet online. But as fate would have it the very next day an incredibly douchy 39 yr old American guy shows up in Cebu to meet her 19 yr old sister. So against my better judgement we decide to meet up with them and evidently he's making the sister all kinds of promises and they're profoundly in love within the first 12 hours of meeting. So we meet them for an early lunch and they're both wearing matching T shirts that say " Love Team"! I have to say I almost laughed and puked in the same moment! (And yes, I saved a picture). So naturally after this display of D'bagggery my girl starts pressuring me so after the 3rd day I had to cut her loose. Overall the Phillipines is a great country but 23 hours on a plane from the states & a 12-13 hour time difference is brutal so now I focus on latinas in Central and S. America.

Colombia is an amazing country with a diversity of hot latinas & the upside is the passionate women and the downside is the passionate women. All latinas will say they don't like drama. But guess what always comes next? Thankfully Colombia is not yet overrun with tourists but this also means not many Colombians speak English. So if you're new to traveling, don't speak Spanish very well & not sure how to handle an occasionally strong tempered latina than maybe Colombia is not best for your first rodeo. However there is the Medellin Mansion / Casa Blanca / Hotel Medellin Plaza or whatever Aussi Greg is calling it these days, LOL. It's well run, has plenty of attractive visitors & even a pool so it's good for a newbie to get his feet or so to speak. Also nearby is Panama City, Panama and it's a great, bustling city with much to do & more people speak English, the dollar is an accepted currency and it's full of hot Colombianas. However for a first timer who's interested in latinas, my best recommendation is the Hotel Del Rey is San Jose, Costa Rica. There are women avail. 24/7 but primetime is 10 pm and later. At night there's a great variety of latinas (70 to 100 Nicas, Ticas, Domincans & Colombians) mostly 6's & 7's who are eager to make your acquaintance. Also Jaco beach on the Pacific coast of C. R. Gives you surf, sun and latinas at various locations esp. The Beatle bar. However the Beatle bar does not keep the women in check so you will be constantly approached which wears thin quickly. Jaco is a good town but not the best of beaches but you can travel 5 mintues down the road to Playa Hermosa for a much better beach and there's a cool hotel and bar called Backyard bar. Many people feel San Jose & the Del Ray is very touristy & has mechanical women but IMHO with all women it comes down to your confidence & skill level especially in detecting & avoiding B. S. And letting the woman know in an amiable & quietly confident way that you're running the show, siempre.

Learn Espanol, be humble, friendly and repsectful of other cultures, master your confidence level interacting with women and you're bound to have some great experiences. Lastly, be aware you're only 24 and after your first successful trip it will undoubtedly change the way you think about women and traditional dating forever, LOL. Best of luck.Wow. Thank you, great post and very informative read. Very well written and posts like these not only make the plan to travel more comfortable, it sure as hell makes it more exciting!

I think the line, 'treated like a rock star' kind of did it for me ha. Well just as humbly, here with women I have a ton of confidence, I go for some very attractive girls, imo I believe I'm a very good looking guy, or so I'm told, again I mention only because it's relevant to what you said.

Only thing is free sex costs too much. LOL. Plus I'm pretty damn tired of the women over here.

I'm always polite and charming, and of course when there is no emotional attachment involved I couldn't see myself being in any drama with the women of the Philippines, hopefully. Latina women are hot blooded as you mention so who knows LOL.

So I will take your word for everything you said, I've only been abroad a couple of times anyway so I'm sure I will enjoy the experience as I have little to compare it to. Everywhere says the food over there is bad but I'm guessing some joints got to cook something good!

Have to say the 'Love Team' story sounds hilarious, oh boy some guys hahaha. I don't think I'll pre meet anyone online, as you say they will have time to plan for me, who knows what their motive could be, plus once I get there, all the pussy will be there to choose why tease myself?

Costa Rica does sound pretty tempting, as you say there are various women from different cultures there, originally that is the place I heard, it's only that I hear Colombia is better in many ways, but clearly it seems the beaches and the babes for sale are in different locations, from your post it seems they are in the same spot in Costa Rica, who also speak more english.

Hey if I struggle there's always my iphone app to translate ha.

Philippines Is 7 hours ahead, Colombia 6 hours behind so I guess it evens out, my sleeping pattern is always f'd up anyway LOL.

I guess what it comes down to then is what everything comes down to. MONEY!

I'll have to choose where I'll get more bang for my buck (literally) and what the country has to offer other than women, better beaches, cheaper hotels and living, better weather (going in November / December) better food and more amenities (any help?)

The decison only gets harder. But that's what makes it all the more fun!

Thanks

Vitrea
06-29-12, 18:58
Personally I think all city beaches are dirty and nasty, you want good beaches you have to go way off the beaten path; that means no action and BYOP.

When a Colombian wants a beach he goes to Turbo or Gorgona La Guajira or San Andres etc, when he wants to get laid he goes to Medellin or Pereira :PAre you serious about Pereira? (I am not being sarcastic). Most reports in the "other areas" section seem to suggest that it is an industrial dump with little or no action. Is that not true?

BayBoy
06-29-12, 21:42
Are you serious about Pereira? (I am not being sarcastic). Most reports in the "other areas" section seem to suggest that it is an industrial dump with little or no action. Is that not true?I agree. I've been to Pereira 5Xs, but not for mongering purposes. There's not a lot of action there, and what there is isn't that great compared to Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena or Cali. The chicas just can't compare, not as good looking.

I'm not sure its an industrial dump, it doesn't seem polluted. It is safe to walk around and has a few good eateries. I go there because its the gateway to the hot spring spas in Santa Rosa de Cabal and not for the sexo.

MiamiHeatLuver
06-30-12, 00:48
Girls from Pereira,"Pereiranas" though not know to be the most beautiful in Colombia for the most part, you CAN find many hotties from there just like you can find in ANY city, granted you put in your leg work either by going there and meeting them or by social networking or just plain ole luck like in my case!

One of the hottest girls I'm banging at this moment is from Pereira. She's about 5'8 and has red hair and green eyes, natural see-cups, flat stomach. Top 5 hottest for me ever! Met her in el parque de cañas in Cali during the holidays while she was there visiting family.

There's an ole saying that is well know through out Colombia, Pereiranas are known to be the easiest lays in all of Colombia. And the saying goes as follows.

"A las Pereiranas se les dice que se sienten why se acuestan!" Which translated means you ask a girl from Pereira to have a seat? And she lies down!

Jajajajjajajaja LOL

Bango Cheito
06-30-12, 16:46
The fame of Pereira goes back to 1948, and the beginning of the period in Colombian history known as "La Violencia". The economy in that part of the country because of the civil strife was almost at a standstill, and all the textile plants in Pereira shut down, leaving many many women out of work. So they started founding brothels and working as hos. The reputation stands to this day. It's a small city and there's certainly a lot more going on in Medellin but if you know the ins and outs it doesn't disappoint And it's the cleanest city in all of Colombia, hands down. Dirty would be Cali from what I hear, although I haven't made it there yet.

Vitrea
06-30-12, 18:39
Thank you for all the clarifications on Pereira. I had couple of fantastic experience from girls from Pereira. One in SXM and one in CTG. Combined with my limited personal experience and based on what I read in other parts of the forum, I came away with the impressions there may be a few cute ones but they leave and work some place else. The hot ones get noticed in small towns which makes it harder for them to work. The mediocre and ugly ones may not care that much so they stay local and work. .

Well, I plan to be there later in the year and I will report back. Please post or send a PM if you guys know how I can maximize my time and effort.

Bart1
07-01-12, 17:55
Personally I think all city beaches are dirty and nasty, you want good beaches you have to go way off the beaten path; that means no action and BYOP.

When a Colombian wants a beach he goes to Turbo or Gorgona La Guajira or San Andres etc, when he wants to get laid he goes to Medellin or Pereira :PJust curious if you meant Tolu instead of Turbo. The nearby Playa Blanca beach at San Antero rated as one of the top in Colombia by Colombians. I spent several days there last week and saw no other gringos.

TheGuyOverThere
07-02-12, 18:43
Is everything pretty much closed today?

What might be open?

Yo Aborido

MiamiHeatLuver
07-03-12, 15:16
Live, right from your flash tablet, home pc or laptop! Keep up with your favorite novela or watch caracol, rcn news and lingerie shows LOL or tele antioquia LIVE every morning anywhere you have an internet connection!

Makes me feel like I'm there watching the news every morning hearing the jingle, even though I'm veryyyy far away! :)

Enjoy.

www.red150.com

Gplayer
07-07-12, 13:28
No, I wasn't kidding about the lengths that some guys will go to. So please enjoy this photo as much as I have, LOL.

However, there are just somethings money can't buy: traveling 24 hours and 8, 400 miles on a plane each way. 1 Plane ticket, cost = $1, 200. Experiencing massivie jet lag and renting a hotel room in Cebu for 5 nights, cost = $600. The cost of matching "Love Team" Tshirts = PRICELESS!


Wow. Thank you, great post and very informative read. Very well written and posts like these not only make the plan to travel more comfortable, it sure as hell makes it more exciting!

I think the line, 'treated like a rock star' kind of did it for me ha. Well just as humbly, here with women I have a ton of confidence, I go for some very attractive girls, imo I believe I'm a very good looking guy, or so I'm told, again I mention only because it's relevant to what you said.

Only thing is free sex costs too much. LOL. Plus I'm pretty damn tired of the women over here.

I'm always polite and charming, and of course when there is no emotional attachment involved I couldn't see myself being in any drama with the women of the Philippines, hopefully. Latina women are hot blooded as you mention so who knows LOL.

So I will take your word for everything you said, I've only been abroad a couple of times anyway so I'm sure I will enjoy the experience as I have little to compare it to. Everywhere says the food over there is bad but I'm guessing some joints got to cook something good!

Have to say the 'Love Team' story sounds hilarious, oh boy some guys hahaha. I don't think I'll pre meet anyone online, as you say they will have time to plan for me, who knows what their motive could be, plus once I get there, all the pussy will be there to choose why tease myself?

Costa Rica does sound pretty tempting, as you say there are various women from different cultures there, originally that is the place I heard, it's only that I hear Colombia is better in many ways, but clearly it seems the beaches and the babes for sale are in different locations, from your post it seems they are in the same spot in Costa Rica, who also speak more english.

Hey if I struggle there's always my iphone app to translate ha.

Philippines Is 7 hours ahead, Colombia 6 hours behind so I guess it evens out, my sleeping pattern is always f'd up anyway LOL.

I guess what it comes down to then is what everything comes down to. MONEY!

I'll have to choose where I'll get more bang for my buck (literally) and what the country has to offer other than women, better beaches, cheaper hotels and living, better weather (going in November / December) better food and more amenities (any help?)

The decison only gets harder. But that's what makes it all the more fun!

Thanks

Ricker
07-07-12, 15:48
No, I wasn't kidding about the lengths that some guys will go to. So please enjoy this photo as much as I have, LOL.

However, there are just somethings money can't buy: traveling 24 hours and 8, 400 miles on a plane each way. 1 Plane ticket, cost = $1, 200. Experiencing massivie jet lag and renting a hotel room in Cebu for 5 nights, cost = $600. The cost of matching "Love Team" Tshirts = PRICELESS!Love the foto!

It's all about the fun, the fantasy and the illusion at times.

If the guy is enjoying life, good for him!

Just don't get married or anything silly like that puhleeese haha. :)

Gplayer
07-07-12, 18:31
Ricker,

Of course you're right, whatever makes you happy. And it's always easier to judge another person with a laser like prescision instead of oneself. This guy did seem to be having fun and so I sincerely hope they're a very happy couple (though I have some real doubts). My concern, was they had just met for first time in person and he was already making her a lot of promises about moving her to the US, marrying her, providing her with plastic surgery. Basically promising her the works. So if he just made her a lot of empty promises so he could have a young, attractive Filipina girlfriend for a week than I have no respect for a guy like that.

Though I don't know you personally, I've frequently read and enjoyed your posts on the Colombian forum for the past couple of years. You always seem to be the voice of reason and respect for other people and especially the mujeres / chicas which I think is very cool. Also I just read and didn't post on here for a couple years partly because I could never decide if my sentiments were more closely aligned with your's or someone like Miami Heat. And, really, does the Colombian forum need two Miami Heat's setting some of the the'bags and braggarts on here straight? Just kidding, LOL. IMHO you and MHL are kind of like the good cop / bad cop on the Colombia forum so hopefully I fall somewhere in between. One minor comment I would disagree with you, though, is the whole idea of spending time with chicas is a fantasy or an illusion. With all respect, to me there is never more of an expectation of anything more from any woman than whatever it is I agreed to in the beginning. Just my 4 cents.


Love the foto!

It's all about the fun, the fantasy and the illusion at times.

If the guy is enjoying life, good for him!

Just don't get married or anything silly like that puhleeese haha. .

Ricker
07-09-12, 04:28
Ricker,

... Though I don't know you personally, I've frequently read and enjoyed your posts on the Colombian forum for the past couple of years. You always seem to be the voice of reason and respect for other people and especially the mujeres / chicas which I think is very cool.

... You and MHL are kind of like the good cop / bad cop on the Colombia forum so hopefully I fall somewhere in between.

... One minor comment I would disagree with you, though, is the whole idea of spending time with chicas is a fantasy or an illusion. With all respect, to me there is never more of an expectation of anything more from any woman than whatever it is I agreed to in the beginning. Just my 4 cents.First of all, I'm way better looking than Miami Heat jeje. :)

Secondly, of course you're paying for agreed service with a PFP chica. That's basic, however, there are times when you hook up with a girl, especially for a longer period of time, that there is a sort of fantasy and love illusion involved.

Take your "Love Team" guy for example.
Total fantasy/illusion.

Thanks for the Kudos by the way.

Take care.

MiamiHeatLuver
07-09-12, 13:36
First of all, I'm way better looking than Miami Heat jeje. :)Jajjjajajajaja, uffff, good one! LOL.

No seriously if you see this cool cat Ricker, the women fall out of the sky like an AXE commercial he's so pretty!

But on a serious note I'm still on the waiting list to hang out with this guy just in the hopes of trying to pick up some of his table scrap women! One day si dios quire, one day! .

Amb832
07-09-12, 17:18
I called Chase bank to let them know I will be visiting Colombia so my card won't be cut off. The lady operator told me that because of some "government restrictions" for Colombia my card may not work in all locations. Just wondering has anyone had any issues using a chase debit / credit card?

Thanks.

AMB

Gplayer
07-09-12, 18:19
Yes I also use Chase Bank credit / debit card quite regularly in many foriegn countries, including Colombia, without encountering any problems. Also believe you receive the best exchange rate using an ATM. Scotia Banks are my favorite as they seem to allow the highest withdrawal amounts and offer (like many ATMs) the option of USD or the local currency and english or espanol. If you haven't ever used your credit or debit cards in other countries it's a very good idea to call ahead and let Cust. Service know "not" to put a hold on your account.

The only problems I've encountered in traveling with debit cards is really self induced. The 1st problem is many of the ATMs in the countries I've visited have the older style machine where you insert the card and the machine holds onto it instead of simply swiping the card. So after a couple of cerveza's and much enthusiasm to get back into whatever action I've forgotten, once or twice, to wait until the machine spits the card back out and so the machine times out and swallows the card. Also, after many trips to the HDR in San Jose and losing money at the blackjack tables I've found their USD ATM, in the main lobby, never has any dollars to dispense. I wonder why, LOL?


I called Chase bank to let them know I will be visiting Colombia so my card won't be cut off. The lady operator told me that because of some "government restrictions" for Colombia my card may not work in all locations. Just wondering has anyone had any issues using a chase debit / credit card?

Thanks.

AMB

Manizales911
07-09-12, 19:22
I called Chase bank to let them know I will be visiting Colombia so my card won't be cut off. The lady operator told me that because of some "government restrictions" for Colombia my card may not work in all locations. Just wondering has anyone had any issues using a chase debit / credit card?

Thanks.

AMBI have a Chase card and have used it many times in Colombia without any problems but now I rarely use a card. I used to withdraw my money as needed from ATM's and brought with me some cash as as a backup, now I do the opposite. I bring all my expected spending money in cash and separate it into three locations once my boots are on the ground, the safe, locked in my luggage and an obscure location within my room. The reason for not using the cards very often is too many reports of card cloning and too many people getting robbed after going to an ATM in Colombia. I am not suggesting that you do this, just stating what I do. The most important thing is not to rely on just one card for your cash needs, always bring enough cash to get you by for a few days and get you home in case your cards don't work or get stolen as you will not be able to get them replaced overnight like you could in the USA.

Ricker
07-10-12, 23:06
But on a serious note I'm still on the waiting list to hang out with this guy just in the hopes of trying to pick up some of his table scrap women! One day si dios quire, one day! .Hey Heat, I think it's Brazil where you want to acompañarme someday.

I think you've got Colombia down, however, Brazil is a new world, most especially away from the touristy areas.

You've probably got some amigos (as) Brasileiros there in Miami, practice some Portuguese if you get the chance.

Ate logo meu amigo, jeje.

Yujin
07-11-12, 03:54
The lady operator told me that because of some "government restrictions" for Colombia my card may not work in all locations.I'm not sure about any "government restrictions," but some ATM will only work with secure chip credit cards. I had this problem at an ATM in Bogota. My credit card was rejected by the ATM. I began to panic until I noticed a small sign on the ATM. Since my Spanish isn't all that great, the sign used the word "chip" so it dawned on me that it had to refer to a secure chip credit card. I walked around until I found another bank ATM and my credit card worked.

MiamiHeatLuver
07-11-12, 17:00
Hey Heat, I think it's Brazil where you want to acompañarme someday.

I think you've got Colombia down, however, Brazil is a new world, most especially away from the touristy areas.

You've probably got some amigos (as) Brasileiros there in Miami, practice some Portuguese if you get the chance.

Ate logo meu amigo, jeje.I have had Colombia down for a while bro, I'm not really into to the Brasileiras bro but more due to the fact. I'm not a big fan of traveling ling distances just to monger. I know its a whole new can of never endingunexplored worms and I know I will enjoy it to the fullest, just maybe not yet? But in the future?

I do have my Brazilian friends here and they have pushed me to go and even offered my places to stay in Rio, Sao Paolo and Recife!

As far as Portuguese goes, common bro I already have the important lingo. Gustoso, carallo, buseta, garotas. 4x4, boom boom, thats enough for now? No? Jejejejejeje LOL

HelpRules
07-11-12, 23:26
Ronin, what kind of diet are you on to get the 6pack. Do you starve yourself or just workout alot.

Gplayer
07-12-12, 18:49
Helpless,

A) I don't know you and don't understand your question? So it's probably fair to assume you didn't bother to read the story and / or related comments or you can't read and are only able to mentally manage looking at pictures. In either case, there's special help for people like you. Just try to keep your med's on schedule and eat a lot of soft foods.

B) Are you gay? Because that's about the fagg-iest question I've ever seen on a heterosexual forum thread. Yeah, it's prety much cowardly dikwads like you who bravely sit behind a computer keyboard and talk smack about other people (for no good reason) is partly the reason why I had never before had posted on this forum for the past couple of years. So who the fuk are you? Probably some fat azz, acne-faced dweeb who never had a girlfriend and never travels farther than from his mom's refrigerator and back to his mom's basement (where you keep your computer and an ample supply of puddin' cups, crayons and naked pictures of your mom and male cousins). So I get it now, you have no life and nothing valuable to offer a heterosexual forum so you make what only you think are witty comebacks to other poster's comments. Unfortunately, only to prove to the whole world wide web what an ignorant, worthless D' bag you really are.


Ronin, what kind of diet are you on to get the 6pack. Do you starve yourself or just workout alot.

Socker
07-12-12, 19:55
Yo Gents, My next trip to Medellin is for Sept. And plan on staying a few days at HPM but would also like to venture out into the real Medellin. I am interested in staying in El Centro and La Mayorista areas because I was impressed w / the talent in those 2 areas and I want more ethnic action I / e street venders, strip clubs and general grittiness the Poblado area lacks. I have heard a few good things about, The Nutibara Hotel in El Centro and the, Central Plaza in La Mayorista, also Hotel Alcaravan sounds OK. Any advice on 3 star accommodations in these areas of Medellin? It would be a treat to pay under $50 per night in a girl-friendly hotel. Thanks and cheers. S

SwagMeOut
07-14-12, 02:01
Helpless,

A) I don't know you and don't understand your question? So it's probably fair to assume you didn't bother to read the story and / or related comments or you can't read and are only able to mentally manage looking at pictures. In either case, there's special help for people like you. Just try to keep your med's on schedule and eat a lot of soft foods.

B) Are you gay? Because that's about the fagg-iest question I've ever seen on a heterosexual forum thread. Yeah, it's prety much cowardly dikwads like you who bravely sit behind a computer keyboard and talk smack about other people (for no good reason) is partly the reason why I had never before had posted on this forum for the past couple of years. So who the fuk are you? Probably some fat azz, acne-faced dweeb who never had a girlfriend and never travels farther than from his mom's refrigerator and back to his mom's basement (where you keep your computer and an ample supply of puddin' cups, crayons and naked pictures of your mom and male cousins). So I get it now, you have no life and nothing valuable to offer a heterosexual forum so you make what only you think are witty comebacks to other poster's comments. Unfortunately, only to prove to the whole world wide web what an ignorant, worthless D' bag you really are.Ronini don't even understand his post, it makes no sense. Weird guy that helpless.

BayBoy
07-14-12, 16:03
Yo Gents, My next trip to Medellin is for Sept. And plan on staying a few days at HPM but would also like to venture out into the real Medellin. I am interested in staying in El Centro and La Mayorista areas because I was impressed w / the talent in those 2 areas and I want more ethnic action I / e street venders, strip clubs and general grittiness the Poblado area lacks. I have heard a few good things about, The Nutibara Hotel in El Centro and the, Central Plaza in La Mayorista, also Hotel Alcaravan sounds OK. Any advice on 3 star accommodations in these areas of Medellin? It would be a treat to pay under $50 per night in a girl-friendly hotel. Thanks and cheers. SI've stayed at the Nutibara Hotel a few times. Always liked the place. Good staff, friendly people. Nothing fancy for a 3 star hotel for around $60. There's a pool, sauna, and steam room. This is a faded glory hotel that was in its prime in the 40s and 50s in the old days.

But I love the location, right in the middle of Medellin.

Member #4394
07-14-12, 16:50
The Central Plaza is a little far from the actions. Macedonia Plaza is a good hotel just one block away from the main street, quiet but close enough to the actions. BTW there are some good (small) restaurants close to the supermarkets in the Mayorista market area.


Yo Gents, My next trip to Medellin is for Sept. And plan on staying a few days at HPM but would also like to venture out into the real Medellin. I am interested in staying in El Centro and La Mayorista areas because I was impressed w / the talent in those 2 areas and I want more ethnic action I / e street venders, strip clubs and general grittiness the Poblado area lacks. I have heard a few good things about, The Nutibara Hotel in El Centro and the, Central Plaza in La Mayorista, also Hotel Alcaravan sounds OK. Any advice on 3 star accommodations in these areas of Medellin? It would be a treat to pay under $50 per night in a girl-friendly hotel. Thanks and cheers. S

Socker
07-14-12, 18:44
The Central Plaza is a little far from the actions. Macedonia Plaza is a good hotel just one block away from the main street, quiet but close enough to the actions. BTW there are some good (small) restaurants close to the supermarkets in the Mayorista market area.thanks guys for the info. My only visit to La Mayorista was at night w / a buddy. At first it was a little intimidating but I quickly acclimated. The scene there seemed extremely small (the one block of bars and hotels) and at night I could not see much of the area. This next trip I will be on my own so I want to make sure I understand the pros and cons of the area. Is there anything to do (there) in the daytime. I assume there are ladies hanging around during the day It did not look like a place one could freely walk around at night. Is it safe to walk to and from the Metro at or to and from your hotel alone at night? I am street smart and just curious about what to expect.

I have also heard that El Centro can be dangerous at night so I'm wondering about the area between The Nutibara Hotel and the strip clubs. Should I cab it or walk it? From memory seems like a short distance.

Thanks again guys.

BayBoy
07-15-12, 16:31
I have also heard that El Centro can be dangerous at night so I'm wondering about the area between The Nutibara Hotel and the strip clubs. Should I cab it or walk it? From memory seems like a short distance.

Thanks again guys.I have always walked that distance, from the hotel to the strip clubs. Its the equivalent of a block and a half. Yes, at night there are people laying on the sidewalks, beggars, street people and the homeless; but I was never bothered by them. I didn't find it to be that dangerous walking those gritty street.

Member #4394
07-15-12, 16:56
Only a few druggies in Mayo in the daytime. There is nothing to do there. If you stay in Mayo, you would have to ride on metro for 20minutes to go to El Centro for casas (plus 10-15 minutes walk from hotel to Ayura station) in the day time. Instead, you may want to stay in El Centro and have fun at casas, strip clubs and street scenes in the daytime. In the night time, metro to Mayo and taxi back to your hotel in El Centro. It would save your time and money overall.


This next trip I will be on my own so I want to make sure I understand the pros and cons of the area. Is there anything to do (there) in the daytime.

Socker
07-19-12, 10:43
Only a few druggies in Mayo in the daytime. There is nothing to do there. If you stay in Mayo, you would have to ride on metro for 20minutes to go to El Centro for casas (plus 10-15 minutes walk from hotel to Ayura station) in the day time. Instead, you may want to stay in El Centro and have fun at casas, strip clubs and street scenes in the daytime. In the night time, metro to Mayo and taxi back to your hotel in El Centro. It would save your time and money overall.Might I also ask for any help on finding a GOOD dentista, he probably needs to speak english. I don't want to take a chance communicating (only) in spanish. [Non-English text deleted by Admin]

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HedonicAdventu
07-20-12, 13:40
Hi guys,

How have you been? Carlsean here, newbie member of the community I do have lot of interests and I even make myself busy by engaging myself with active activities but at the end of the day I do not forgot to have some fun and mingle with my friends. Nice to meet you all.

MiamiHeatLuver
07-20-12, 19:57
Hi guys,

How have you been? Carlsean here, newbie member of the community I do have lot of interests and I even make myself busy by engaging myself with active activities but at the end of the day I do not forgot to have some fun and mingle with my friends. Nice to meet you all.Thats what its all about! Having fun! Thank you for this! P. S. Why don't you share some of your intrests and activites with us?

MiamiHeatLuver
07-20-12, 20:53
I'm feeling the fun! I'm wheels down and soon to be be balls deep in Medellin.

Reef.Nice bro! Hit it out of the park! Send me some pics via Email! Be Safe!

Gplayer
07-21-12, 23:03
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* The above is from an AA email announcement today, though it basically only mentions Brazil (must be Ricker's doing, LOL?). Hopefully AA will continue to add more flights to Latin America and increase competition which can only help with airfare pricing.

Member #4353
07-22-12, 00:05
I'm headed to Medellin again but lost my driver's contact information. Looking for reliable driver to pick me up from airport and general transportation. Any recommendations?

Thanks,

Joe

Manizales911
07-22-12, 13:16
I'm headed to Medellin again but lost my driver's contact information. Looking for reliable driver to pick me up from airport and general transportation. Any recommendations?

Thanks,

JoeGo to the thread "Medellin List" and scroll towards the bottom and there is a list of recommended drivers.

Mr OReilly
07-23-12, 06:15
I will post this in here since this forum is very active. I was wondering how you guys do it. Afford to travel and bang broads I mean.

I am finishing off my post graduate studies now, I will have a CPA in a few months and was wondering how you guys afford the lifestyle you live? I am ultimately looking to see how some people managed to afford to live away from the US of A and in Colombia as I would like to live there for at least a few months of the year.

How did you guys afford to travel frequently for sex (and tourism?). If you live away from the US of A, how long did it take you to get to the point where you could successfully live abroad?

I would like to operate a business of some sort eventually (I am only 25 so I have some time to peruse business ideas) or hopefully work at a decent paying job. I am looking to build a lifestyle where I can ultimately live away from the US of A and still earn decent cash flows to live well abroad. And of course, bang women!

Thanks guys.

Max Mojo
07-24-12, 01:48
I can't speak for most mongers, but I can tell you that my "hobby" averages over 20K per year (all inclusive: air, accommodations chicas, etc). I live in the midwest and own a consulting company, so my job is virtual and am able to write off most of my hobby expenses as work related. Over time, I've been able to build a client base in Latin America that requires several trips a year so I'll rent a nice condo where I set up the office and work during the day while mongering at night.

Many fellow mongers that I know who make multiple trips / yr live in US cities with a major hub airport that allows them to fly inexpensively for a quick weekend trip. Others have the financial wherewithal and freedom to travel on business (airline ee's and traveling sales / consulting positions). Still others are retired military or government ee's who have a monthly pension that allows a comfortable standard of living.

A wise monger told me years ago if you're planning to live abroad, make your money in dollars and spend in local currency.

Chesscat
07-24-12, 02:01
Just do it. Especially at your age. It's a wonderful thing to be 25, or even 40, and be in Colombia, Peru, Argentina or Thailand. Your time in those countries, with your youth, would be incomparably better than doing the same thing at 55. And you can learn Spanish too.

In terms of cost, you do have to be making a certain amount of money, and then it's a question of how you travel. And again, as a younger person you might be able to spend less both in accommodations (think hostel) and the women may charge you less (or not at all). Say you get a job making $60k, which of course would be a pretty good job. You might be able to squeeze out two trips a year, at $4k apiece, on that salary.

Most guys don't go when they are young, they save and then go when they are older and have money saved up. But really, my advice would be go while you are young, and again, you are way young enough to learn the language.

In fact, you could learn Spanish, get your MBA in International Finance, learn Portuguese, and there you go.

Nabru
07-24-12, 02:20
I will post this in here since this forum is very active. I was wondering how you guys do it. Afford to travel and bang broads I mean.

I am finishing off my post graduate studies now, I will have a CPA in a few months and was wondering how you guys afford the lifestyle you live? I am ultimately looking to see how some people managed to afford to live away from the US of A and in Colombia as I would like to live there for at least a few months of the year.

How did you guys afford to travel frequently for sex (and tourism?). If you live away from the US of A, how long did it take you to get to the point where you could successfully live abroad?

I would like to operate a business of some sort eventually (I am only 25 so I have some time to peruse business ideas) or hopefully work at a decent paying job. I am looking to build a lifestyle where I can ultimately live away from the US of A and still earn decent cash flows to live well abroad. And of course, bang women!

Thanks guys.You probably learned to live cheaply in college. Keep those habits after you get a good job and you'll have plenty of money to travel every month or two. Since you will be a CPA you might consider specializing in taxes. That way you can bust your ass during tax season and travel the rest of the year. Or some type of consulting job that has you traveling a lot, where you can bank your frequent flier miles and use them for your real travels.

Member #4394
07-24-12, 02:55
very good advice. thank you.


just do it. especially at your age. it's a wonderful thing to be 25, or even 40, and be in colombia, peru, argentina or thailand. your time in those countries, with your youth, would be incomparably better than doing the same thing at 55. and you can learn spanish too.

in terms of cost, you do have to be making a certain amount of money, and then it's a question of how you travel. and again, as a younger person you might be able to spend less both in accommodations (think hostel) and the women may charge you less (or not at all). say you get a job making $60k, which of course would be a pretty good job. you might be able to squeeze out two trips a year, at $4k apiece, on that salary.

most guys don't go when they are young, they save and then go when they are older and have money saved up. but really, my advice would be go while you are young, and again, you are way young enough to learn the language.

in fact, you could learn spanish, get your mba in international finance, learn portuguese, and there you go.

Bango Cheito
07-27-12, 08:12
IF you speak really good English AND really good Spanish, you can command very nice pay in Bogota and perhaps Medellin, especially if you go freelance. But forget about other Colombian cities, money is just too hard to come by in those places. And GOOD English means better than 90% of Americans, and good Spanish means NOT the shit the typical "bilingual" New Yorker speaks.

U1484
07-27-12, 22:52
I am not sure I perfectly match the criteria since I only live half of the year abroad either in Colombia or Argentina, but I will give my two cents anyway. What worked best for me is to have a full time job in the US that I enjoyed but also allows me to work remotely. I alternate between living in the US and living abroad in two month intervals. I have found it to be the best of both worlds. I get the salary and benefits of a job in the US. While at the same time being able to enjoy extended travel without having to deal with visa issues or doing low paying work that I would not enjoy like teaching English.

I have been doing this for the last three years and have enjoyed it a lot. I have found that working while abroad makes the time more enjoyable. At least for me after few weeks of partying it gets old if that is all you are doing.


I will post this in here since this forum is very active. I was wondering how you guys do it. Afford to travel and bang broads I mean.

I am finishing off my post graduate studies now, I will have a CPA in a few months and was wondering how you guys afford the lifestyle you live? I am ultimately looking to see how some people managed to afford to live away from the US of A and in Colombia as I would like to live there for at least a few months of the year.

How did you guys afford to travel frequently for sex (and tourism?). If you live away from the US of A, how long did it take you to get to the point where you could successfully live abroad?

I would like to operate a business of some sort eventually (I am only 25 so I have some time to peruse business ideas) or hopefully work at a decent paying job. I am looking to build a lifestyle where I can ultimately live away from the US of A and still earn decent cash flows to live well abroad. And of course, bang women!

Thanks guys.

Chesscat
07-28-12, 01:46
Bango, you command really good pay for doing what?

Dirtdog
07-28-12, 06:48
I will post this in here since this forum is very active. I was wondering how you guys do it. Afford to travel and bang broads I mean.

I am finishing off my post graduate studies now, I will have a CPA in a few months and was wondering how you guys afford the lifestyle you live? I am ultimately looking to see how some people managed to afford to live away from the US of A and in Colombia as I would like to live there for at least a few months of the year.

How did you guys afford to travel frequently for sex (and tourism?). If you live away from the US of A, how long did it take you to get to the point where you could successfully live abroad?

I would like to operate a business of some sort eventually (I am only 25 so I have some time to peruse business ideas) or hopefully work at a decent paying job. I am looking to build a lifestyle where I can ultimately live away from the US of A and still earn decent cash flows to live well abroad. And of course, bang women!

Thanks guys.THe answer for me was to stay as far away from a wedding chapel as possible. MY married friends PPP is about $2000. And get a vasectomy so that the decision to have kids is yours. LIve far below your earning level, a week with available pretty women is worth more then a new corvette to me, and find a business where everything you do is an expense to be deducted. I have only worked hard for about 15 years and now retired to live in Mexico, while I explore other areas. La Buena Vida.

Kuranyi
07-29-12, 11:28
Planning my first Colombia trip in January. Anyone can recommend me a good free dating site?

Thanks

HedonicAdventu
07-29-12, 16:51
Thats what its all about! Having fun! Thank you for this! P. S. Why don't you share some of your intrests and activites with us?Great! I really love sports, actually my favorite is triathlon, gave me endurance during and after the game with my fellow player, its a erotic pleasure after the game with new met partner.

Hasideas Tao
08-01-12, 23:38
Hello brothers,

I've searched the forum for specific info about data plans in Colombia and come up empty.

I am specifically interested in setting up my Colombian cell phone with the ability to check my email.

Anyone have experience on this subject? What kind of phone is necessary? Any particular company offer this service? What are the rates? Is it possible to turn on and off and just download all new mail and work off-line. Like the original days of AOL. Haha.

Thanks!

MiamiHeatLuver
08-02-12, 15:53
Hello brothers,

I've searched the forum for specific info about data plans in Colombia and come up empty.

I am specifically interested in setting up my Colombian cell phone with the ability to check my email.

Anyone have experience on this subject? What kind of phone is necessary? Any particular company offer this service? What are the rates? Is it possible to turn on and off and just download all new mail and work off-line. Like the original days of AOL. Haha.

Thanks!All the cell phone companies have plan de datos now with the availability to receive emails "in real time"

My girl has a blackberry with the NEW uff movil. Its by far the cheapest and includes minutes and she has the availability to call me in the states at like 200pesos a minute. www.uffmovil.com

The next cheapest with plan de datos is movistar. www.movistar.co

Then www.tigo.com.co

Then the now defunkt COMCEL which was bought out by CLARO. www.claro.com.co Which when compairing was always the most expensive!

Bango Cheito
08-02-12, 17:33
Comcel has always been the most expensive, but I always preferred it, it has the best coverage. As a matter of fact I wish I could find a US carrier that has coverage as good, I'm on vacation up here now and dead spots EVERYWHERE. 4G my ass!

Tigo sends you messages starting at 7am all day every day with stupid promotional offers that are not worth it. Movistar is OK but like I said the other's reception is better. Never tried UFF. Did some jingles for them when they launched :P

Bango Cheito
08-02-12, 17:41
bango, you command really good pay for doing what?i'm a musician.

El Greco
08-02-12, 21:24
. La Buena Vida.. Yeah "Vida sacrificada". LOL It took me 30 years though.

SlamCity7777
08-02-12, 23:05
Comcel has always been the most expensive, but I always preferred it, it has the best coverage. As a matter of fact I wish I could find a US carrier that has coverage as good, I'm on vacation up here now and dead spots EVERYWHERE. 4G my ass!

Tigo sends you messages starting at 7am all day every day with stupid promotional offers that are not worth it. Movistar is OK but like I said the other's reception is better. Never tried UFF. Did some jingles for them when they launched :PI have Movistar and they do have excellent coverage, decent phones, but they send 3-5 texts a day with some BS promo and maybe 1 or 2 calls a week but I can't be sure this is Movistar or some auto dialer for a telemarker in Colombia.

Cltrader
08-03-12, 21:57
To the Colombian vets, I'm a newbie and planning a trip to Colombia soon. My question is, what part of Colombia can I find the most women with Big asses, something more like the pornstar Cherokee D'ass.

Thanks in advance

Member #4394
08-04-12, 06:30
Check the Cali report thread. Go to Bar La Veinte.


To the Colombian vets, I'm a newbie and planning a trip to Colombia soon. My question is, what part of Colombia can I find the most women with Big asses, something more like the pornstar Cherokee D'ass.

Thanks in advance

BayBoy
08-04-12, 20:16
To the Colombian vets, I'm a newbie and planning a trip to Colombia soon. My question is, what part of Colombia can I find the most women with Big asses, something more like the pornstar Cherokee D'ass.

Thanks in advanceThere's big butted chicas all over Colombian big cities, plenty to go around, but bar La Veinte has a lot.

Bango Cheito
08-04-12, 23:30
To the Colombian vets, I'm a newbie and planning a trip to Colombia soon. My question is, what part of Colombia can I find the most women with Big asses, something more like the pornstar Cherokee D'ass.

Thanks in advanceIn general the hotter the weather, the more junk in the trunk!

Cltrader
08-05-12, 00:29
There's big butted chicas all over Colombian big cities, plenty to go around, but bar La Veinte has a lot.Thanks everyone for your inputs, I can't wait to visit Cali in November.

Shannon13
08-05-12, 14:20
I will travel to Colombia October for two weeks. One goal is to improve my spanish and the other one is to meet nice women. I have been to Colombia for business and really like the people. The ideal vacation for me would be to meet nice women who show me around the place and would also be interested to jump with me into the cama, for an adequate financial reward of course. I am forty and for me best sex worked with a bit more experienced girl. My experience for Columbia is that for paid sex the younger seems to be be better. A woman older than 25 is already regarded as unattractive. A good target would be divorced women. Would it be appropriate to ask a women if she or a girl-friend can show me around as a kind of tourist guide? I think that would be the only approach since in the typical bars only the young good-looking hookers hang around.

BlancoVikingo
08-05-12, 15:39
I was thinking of the excellent idea that an American made real, producing porno with his hot latina wife, ongoing since 2005, recieving 88/100 points http://www.mrpinks.com/porn-reviews/chica-s-place

How about to make something similar, but living an having the SA / SRL in Colombia?

There should be many girls willing for this relationship / work. Just look at http://www.vecinabella.com/la-espectacular-anita-toro-famosa-extwitera-y-web-pornstar-colombiana

I have a SA in Costa Rica and it was very simple for us / me to since one co-owner is Costa Rica citizen.

I think it may be similar in Colombia, but my research so far has not given answer far from 100.

A site you guys should take a look at is bangbros Culioneros http://beta3.members.bangbros.com/updates/index/product_id/136

There should be an enourmous demand for white-anglo saxons in their 35-60 having sex on video with real / supposed Latina wifes with huge tits and ass.

For me the videos at Culioneros are relaxed and you can aviod the disturbing Eastern European accent if you want hot foreign girls (or the worst criminal-alike eastern european men). No empathy or sensuality, just fuck (or Die).

Party Pooper
08-07-12, 17:28
Gents,

I'm looking to go to Colombia in februari. I'm going to rent an appartement with some friends.

My main goal is to score some of the non-pro girls, and basically hang out with them, have some fun and fuck them afterwards. If it fails I can always pay some pro's, so no harm done.

How are my chances? I'm 24, pretty muscular, belgian and fairly good looking (that's what the girls say over here at least).

Is there a city that you would recommend for this kind of hunt? For example a city with a university, or a place where a lot of youth congregates?

Thanks!

SlamCity7777
08-07-12, 22:16
gents,

i'm looking to go to colombia in februari. i'm going to rent an appartement with some friends.

my main goal is to score some of the non-pro girls, and basically hang out with them, have some fun and fuck them afterwards. if it fails i can always pay some pro's, so no harm done.

how are my chances? i'm 24, pretty muscular, belgian and fairly good looking (that's what the girls say over here at least).

is there a city that you would recommend for this kind of hunt? for example a city with a university, or a place where a lot of youth congregates?

thanks!if you speak spanish and are classically handsome (tall dark handsome or blond blue eyed) you will have no problems. if you have no spanish skills and are classically handsome you will have a 50-50 chance. if you speak no spanish and are not handsome than you are shit out of luck! seriously. if you speak some spanish and are of average looks you have a punchers chance.

Party Pooper
08-08-12, 10:39
Thank you very much slamcity. I'm the tall and dark type of guy.

Here's an interesting link I found about non-pro's in Colombia (just ignore the marketing) , I think it matches most things I read on the forum:

http://www.seductionscience.com/2010/colombia-lay-guide/

Party Pooper
08-08-12, 12:20
Got a tip from a guy on a dutch forum who studied 6 months in Colombia and had some great pussy.

When you go out, and see a girl that you like in a mixed group, start talking to one of the guys in the group.

As Colombian people are generally friendly, you will almost always have a positive response and later he will introduce you to the rest of the group after some basic chit chat.

He asked things like 'where did you buy those jeans, I really like them' or 'can you buy the beer that you're drinking in a supermarket nearby? '.

This is supposed to be a great way size up the group, to see if the girls have a boyfriend or not and to infiltrate under the radar with the girls.

SlamCity7777
08-08-12, 13:19
thank you very much slamcity. i'm the tall and dark type of guy.

here's an interesting link i found about non-pro's in colombia (just ignore the marketing) , i think it matches most things i read on the forum:

http://www.seductionscience.com/2010/colombia-lay-guide/i can't believe how "honest" most of that so-called article was! pretty spot other than the gross generalization of what women look like in specific areas and that colombians want to date gringos. that ship has sailed in most every major city in colombia about 10 years ago. another huge mistake is that most girls in south america, not only colo are young single mothers, not just the 30yr olds.

1) speak spanish.

2) you need time, most of south am. isn't mexico on spring break, the grls living at home

3) if you have no game at home you'll have no game in a foreign country.

4) grow balls.

how sad is that dvd or dating system that guy is trying to sell!

i had the best luck at the food court at different malls and with shop girls

Party Pooper
08-08-12, 19:34
Here in Belgium I go to the most popular clubs, and I can score (frenck kiss, get a date or more) 65-75% of the nights that I go out. So I'd say I have ok game.

But when I went to Bali for example, this ok game became GREAT game. I could score chicks who were working in the clubs, the hottest girls in the clubs and even a famous model / actress in Bali. I even got congratulated by unknown Aussies partying over there about the chicks I played. This were all non-pro's, didn't pay a dime, maybe a drink here and there.

You think the same will happen in a country like Colombia, or will it still be pretty hard?

Great info BTW, thanks again.

Gplayer
08-08-12, 23:29
Slam,

The article did have a lot of generalizations and some goofy azz made-up expressions and acronyms, but some of it is true and is common sense dating 101 stuff like you mentioned: needing to have confidence and without game in the US why do you think you'd have more success abroad especially if you're not fluent in Spanish?

Overall I'd rate this dating advice site as gay as hell. The main guy, Jesse, appears to be a huge D'bag and greatly reminds me in looks of the actor Danny McBride.

Also agree with you it's truly sad if anyone is so nut-less and East Bound and Down in life that they're buying Kenny Powers or Cuba Dave videos, LOL!

One thing we humbly disagree about is the notion that Colombian or Latinas don't want to date gringos any longer. If you're on vacation, of course they know what you're after and there's also the double edged sword of being seen in public with and having a gringo novio. IMHO many latinas like having gringo novios for a variety of obvious reasons and there's definitely some distinct advantages in being an educated, decent looking gringo between the ages of 30 to 60. Just my 4 cents.


I can't believe how "honest" most of that so-called article was! Pretty spot other than the gross generalization of what women look like in specific areas and that Colombians want to date gringos. That ship has sailed in most every major city in Colombia about 10 years ago. Another HUGE mistake is that MOST girls in South America, not only Colo are young single mothers, not just the 30yr olds.

1) Speak Spanish.

2) You Need time, most of South Am. Isn't Mexico on Spring break, the grls living at home

3) If you have no game at home you'll have no game in a foreign country.

4) Grow Balls.

How sad is that DVD or dating system that guy is trying to sell!

I had the best luck at the food court at different malls and with shop girls

SlamCity7777
08-09-12, 03:25
Well written and I actually laughed out loud at this post!"Kenny Powers" love it.

Well to clarify, it's not that Latinas in general don't want to date gringos but the thought that being a gringo is ENOUGH. Like they're going to see our Blue Passports and shit their pants with excitement. Like the circus coming to town! Hhahaha. It's up to the individual is what I was trying to get at and justt because you are a gringo some gang of chicks would fall over themselves trying to get at your cock!

99. 8% agreement is pretty good. Kenny Powers! Love that show!


Slam,

The article did have a lot of generalizations and some goofy azz made-up expressions and acronyms, but some of it is true and is common sense dating 101 stuff like you mentioned: needing to have confidence and without game in the US why do you think you'd have more success abroad especially if you're not fluent in Spanish?

Overall I'd rate this dating advice site as gay as hell. The main guy, Jesse, appears to be a huge D'bag and greatly reminds me in looks of the actor Danny McBride.

Also agree with you it's truly sad if anyone is so nut-less and East Bound and Down in life that they're buying Kenny Powers or Cuba Dave videos, LOL!

One thing we humbly disagree about is the notion that Colombian or Latinas don't want to date gringos any longer. If you're on vacation, of course they know what you're after and there's also the double edged sword of being seen in public with and having a gringo novio. IMHO many latinas like having gringo novios for a variety of obvious reasons and there's definitely some distinct advantages in being an educated, decent looking gringo between the ages of 30 to 60. Just my 4 cents.

Bango Cheito
08-09-12, 05:00
I have ONE big problem with this article. There IS child support in Colombia and it works EXACTLY like the US. Guys who knock girls up in Colombia and then disappear will quickly find their asses hauled into court, and they can even go to jail for non-payment. Speaking from what I have observed personally in 4 years living there.

Mr Enternational
08-09-12, 06:04
I will travel to Colombia October for two weeks. One goal is to improve my spanish and the other one is to meet nice women. I have been to Colombia for business and really like the people. The ideal vacation for me would be to meet nice women who show me around the place and would also be interested to jump with me into the cama, for an adequate financial reward of course. I am forty and for me best sex worked with a bit more experienced girl. My experience for Columbia is that for paid sex the younger seems to be be better. A woman older than 25 is already regarded as unattractive. A good target would be divorced women. Would it be appropriate to ask a women if she or a girl-friend can show me around as a kind of tourist guide? I think that would be the only approach since in the typical bars only the young good-looking hookers hang around.First you should make up your mind whether you want a hooker or a "nice woman." It seems you are trying to combine the two into the same person. You want a nice woman: non-pro. You want to give her money: pro. Good target divorced woman: why the hell would it matter if a pro is single or divorced? You are going to give her the same money regardless. How do you regard a woman older than 25 as unattractive when you have never even seen her? And to top it off your title is, "How to Approach Women in Their Thirties." Bullshit post for sure.

Bango Cheito
08-09-12, 06:45
OK another BIG problem, this IDIOT actually thinks your typical Colombian girl will be FAITHFUL to you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Sailor Jim
08-11-12, 19:47
IMHO many latinas like having gringo novios for a variety of obvious reasons and there's definitely some distinct advantages in being an educated, decent looking gringo between the ages of 30 to 60. Just my 4 cents.Strictly talking non pros here. 60? Yes if the woman is 50. Here I find that the older man thing only really works if the guy can look the other way (she has a boyfriend actually in her league and age range). Oh and if the 50+ guy has lots of money. I don't see the 50 year old backpacker on a budget arm in arm with any hot non pros.

The younger single women, with a job, in the 20-30 range who have their shit half together would not be caught dead with a 45+ gringo.

The ones that do are somewhat desperate with kids, estrato 1-2 types, or within 10-20 years of the cucho. Again, talking non pros here.

Gplayer
08-12-12, 03:01
Sorry Sailor, I would respectfully but definitely have to disagree with you. Obviously was generalizing in putting an age range of 30 to 60 years but also don't see the need to disrespect older ISG members. Obviously there are many variables such as looks, confidence, how you dress and carry yourself, wealth and spanish speaking ability. Also I'm confused because nothing in the previous comments referred to a 50 yr old gringo "back packer" type? So maybe you just like to disagree or hear yourself type? Or possibly you are speaking from a bad personal experiences and, or perhaps about Parque Lleras in particular? However in my humble experience in 6 different Latin countries while age difference is a factor it's nowhere near the same concern (not by a long shot) as in comparison to the US. Also the number of latinas with "good" jobs is a vast minority and what constitutes a good paying job in latin America is far different than the US. Hence being an educated, decent looking and confident gringo comes with many advantages (and some disadvantages) in latin america and, for that matter, a good part of the world. And I'm not saying it's right or fair but that's the way things are because of a lot of preconceived notions: but you won't see me complaining too much, LOL.

Like many others I like to chase attractive women whether its home or abroad and I'm not hung up on placing a strict definition on each one. However in my travels I do prefer to meet non pros and so will be heading to Lima in 3 weeks to spend a few days in Miraflores with a 21 yr old, non pro chica who's a junior at San Ignacio college in La Molina, Peru. But this has also been my experience in other countries such as Phillipines, Mexico, DR, Panama and Colombia. As other and more wiser ISG poster's have previously stated it's really more about how you handle yourself. If you can't deal with women in the states than what makes you think you will magically be successful with a younger latina in another country? And if you don't speak any Spanish and could possibly be referred to as a "Walmart Gringo" than your chances are further reduced. Just my 8 cents.


Strictly talking non pros here. 60? Yes if the woman is 50. Here I find that the older man thing only really works if the guy can look the other way (she has a boyfriend actually in her league and age range). Oh and if the 50+ guy has lots of money. I don't see the 50 year old backpacker on a budget arm in arm with any hot non pros.

The younger single women, with a job, in the 20-30 range who have their shit half together would not be caught dead with a 45+ gringo.

The ones that do are somewhat desperate with kids, estrato 1-2 types, or within 10-20 years of the cucho. Again, talking non pros here.

Nino Bravo
08-12-12, 12:59
Strictly talking non pros here. 60? Yes if the woman is 50. Here I find that the older man thing only really works if the guy can look the other way (she has a boyfriend actually in her league and age range). Oh and if the 50+ guy has lots of money. I don't see the 50 year old backpacker on a budget arm in arm with any hot non pros.

The younger single women, with a job, in the 20-30 range who have their shit half together would not be caught dead with a 45+ gringo.

The ones that do are somewhat desperate with kids, estrato 1-2 types, or within 10-20 years of the cucho. Again, talking non pros here.Hate to jump on the bandwagon to bash this post, but like alot of information I've been seeing lately on this forum. Well, it's just dead wrong. I am over 45 and my last serious relationship was with a 27 year old woman from Cali, who is a lawyer from a very political family, a part time model, who was first runner up in Miss Cali when she was 20 years old. Met all of her family, she has a USA tourist visa and visited me 2 times here in the States over the past year. I've been traveling to Colombia steadily since '98. It's laughable some of the poor generalizations and just plain out misinformation that some members here post, after only making a handful of trips and more than likely speak baby jibberish spanish.

Ricker
08-12-12, 15:30
Strictly talking non pros here. 60? Yes if the woman is 50. Here I find that the older man thing only really works if the guy can look the other way (she has a boyfriend actually in her league and age range). Oh and if the 50+ guy has lots of money. I don't see the 50 year old backpacker on a budget arm in arm with any hot non pros.

The younger single women, with a job, in the 20-30 range who have their shit half together would not be caught dead with a 45+ gringo.

The ones that do are somewhat desperate with kids, estrato 1-2 types, or within 10-20 years of the cucho. Again, talking non pros here.Big generalization here.

I disagree.


Sorry Sailor, I would respectfully but definitely have to disagree with you. Obviously was generalizing in putting an age range of 30 to 60 years but also don't see the need to disrespect older ISG members. Obviously there are many variables such as looks, confidence, how you dress and carry yourself, wealth and spanish speaking ability. Also I'm confused because nothing in the previous comments referred to a 50 yr old gringo "back packer" type? So maybeTotally agree.


Hate to jump on the bandwagon to bash this post, but like alot of information I've been seeing lately on this forum. Well, it's just dead wrong. I am over 45 and my last serious relationship was with a 27 year old woman from Cali, who is a lawyer from a very political family, a part time model, who was first runner up in Miss Cali when she was 20 years old. Met all of her family, she has a USA tourist visa and visited me 2 times here in the States over the past year. I've been traveling to Colombia steadily since '98. It's laughable some of the poor generalizations and just plain out misinformation that some members here post, after only making a handful of trips and more than likely speak baby jibberish spanish.Totally agree.

Chris Long
08-13-12, 07:17
I have to submit a proposal by next week for a study abroad program in economics for a community college. Would like to find an educational institution in Columbia close enough to monger but far enough and safe enough to pass the smell test, does anyone have connections or know of Universities / Educational institutions. Where we could rent class rooms dorms ect. Does anyone have connections with the central bank, economic development in Columbia that could give my students tours or speak to my students (in English). I would go down the first year by myself to set it up, the school pays for my airfare hotel meals etc. Then I would have to go down with the students for three consecutive summers after that. Once the students go back I can stay for a few days and monger.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Chris

Socker
08-13-12, 22:43
First you should make up your mind whether you want a hooker or a "nice woman." It seems you are trying to combine the two into the same person. You want a nice woman: non-pro. You want to give her money: pro. Good target divorced woman: why the hell would it matter if a pro is single or divorced? You are going to give her the same money regardless. How do you regard a woman older than 25 as unattractive when you have never even seen her? And to top it off your title is, "How to Approach Women in Their Thirties." Bullshit post for sure.The "whether you want a hooker or a nice woman" comment just kill me. Number 1. It is not accurate and # 2 it is dumb. Please don't spread this kind of thought process because it makes no freaking sense. A so-called nice woman won't give you the time of day if you don't have MONEY! They're not called feemales for nothing Mr. E. A woman is either nice or she is not nice, makes no difference what her job is.

Geez

Sailor Jim
08-14-12, 02:09
It's laughable some of the poor generalizations and just plain out misinformation that some members here post, after only making a handful of trips and more than likely speak baby jibberish spanish.What's laughable is your inability to recognize that there are always exceptions, nothing is 100% black or white. I beleive every word you type.

But the majority of hot 20 somethings arm in arm with gingo 50 somethings are girls in financial need. If you have never seen that to be the majority I don't know what to say. Yes there are exceptions.

Born in the US I have lived here in Colombia between Cali and Medellin for 20 years and have been fluent in Spanish since birth, thanks.

Sailor Jim
08-14-12, 02:20
I have to submit a proposal by next week for a study abroad program in economics for a community college. Would like to find an educational institution in Columbia close enough to monger but far enough and safe enough to pass the smell test, does anyone have connections or know of Universities / Educational institutions. Where we could rent class rooms dorms ect. Does anyone have connections with the central bank, economic development in Columbia that could give my students tours or speak to my students (in English). I would go down the first year by myself to set it up, the school pays for my airfare hotel meals etc. Then I would have to go down with the students for three consecutive summers after that. Once the students go back I can stay for a few days and monger.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

ChrisBogotá. Start your search there

Sailor Jim
08-14-12, 02:41
Big generalization here.But a truthful one. Strictly non pros I'm talkin'. I believe I have described the majority and not the exceptions of some of you super studs.

You're going to tell me (today. Not 10 years ago) that the 50 something out of shape foreigner here on vacation speaking intermediate spanish has on his arm:

A.) A 20 something college graduated single professional beauty, like NinoBravo's piece.

Be.) A high school educated maybe has a minimum wage if any job, single mom living in a struggling household.

There are a looooooot of 20-30 something fluent foreigners with culture, class and money coming down (today. Not 10 years ago). Girl A can be real choosey if foreigners float her boat. Not like 10 years ago.

Sailor Jim
08-14-12, 02:51
I am over 45 and my last serious relationship was with a 27 year old woman from Cali, who is a lawyer from a very political family, a part time model, who was first runner up in Miss Cali when she was 20 years old. Met all of her family, she has a USA tourist visa and visited me 2 times here in the States over the past year. I've been traveling to Colombia steadily since '98. It's laughable blah blah blahSo what you're saying is you're the typical gringo on vacation, nothing overly special about you. Like the majority here. You're just like every other guest at the Mansion or La Mayorista. You all have the same charm, culture and level of Spanish and pulling non pro Miss Cali girl for a Long Term serious Relationahip is the norm for all of you typical 50+ monger guys.

Can I get a "yes" from you on all of that?

If you don't answer yes then your original post I am quoting has little merit, sorry. I seem to think you are a special case, sir, wait you should call me sir as I am surely older than you.

Combo
08-14-12, 05:26
I'm 48 and I've been having a fling with a very attractive and bright 29 year-old here in CHICAGO. And if one
can do it in the US, one can likely do it in Colombia. Though obviously, if you don't speak Spanish and don't have
some "game," your chances are worse in Colombia than at home.

FWIW, I don't understand the desire the "date" these girls when on vacation. I go on vacation for good weather
and what I call "sport fucking," which almost by definition is with Pros.

Now if I lived in MDE or Cali for an extended period, I would go after non-pros. But for a week or two of
Vacation, I'd much rather pay upfront and get a guaranteed experience. There's no way you can really get to
know someone in such a short time period and if you fall in love 3000 miles away from home, it's going to be painful.

BTW,"sport fucking" by no means implies that I treat the girls badly. I always treat them respectively and
try to make the experience mutually enjoyable. But I'm still explicitly paying for it.

IMO, date at home and pay while abroad (where it's legal!) makes the most sense.

Gplayer
08-14-12, 10:08
Combo, don't bother to argue the point. No one, absolutley no one has agreed with Sailor's opinion but he's going to keep trying until someone finally does, LOL!


I'm 48 and I've been having a fling with a very attractive and bright 29 year-old here in CHICAGO. And if one.

Can do it in the US, one can likely do it in Colombia. Though obviously, if you don't speak Spanish and don't have.

Some "game," your chances are worse in Colombia than at home.

FWIW, I don't understand the desire the "date" these girls when on vacation. I go on vacation for good weather.

And what I call "sport fucking," which almost by definition is with Pros.

Now if I lived in MDE or Cali for an extended period, I would go after non-pros. But for a week or two of

Vacation, I'd much rather pay upfront and get a guaranteed experience. There's no way you can really get to.

Know someone in such a short time period and if you fall in love 3000 miles away from home, it's going to be painful.

BTW,"sport fucking" by no means implies that I treat the girls badly. I always treat them respectively and.

Try to make the experience mutually enjoyable. But I'm still explicitly paying for it.

IMO, date at home and pay while abroad (where it's legal!) makes the most sense.

LatinaLover#1
08-14-12, 10:11
LMAO, Years ago, you could say this but today a Gringo is no longer a novelty.

Having been in this hobby for over 20 years I can say Slamcity is correct and writes some funny shit. The key to non. Pros today is you need to speak the language, be looking for a serious relationship and put the time in to romance them. As far as the pros go, the blue passport is a signal to charge you more.


Well written and I actually laughed out loud at this post!"Kenny Powers" love it.

Well to clarify, it's not that Latinas in general don't want to date gringos but the thought that being a gringo is ENOUGH. Like they're going to see our Blue Passports and shit their pants with excitement. Like the circus coming to town! Hhahaha. It's up to the individual is what I was trying to get at and justt because you are a gringo some gang of chicks would fall over themselves trying to get at your cock!

99. 8% agreement is pretty good. Kenny Powers! Love that show!

Sailor Jim
08-14-12, 20:28
No one, absolutley no one has agreed with Sailor's opinion but he's going to keep trying until someone finally does, LOL!You don't know me, and that makes it easy to explain your misinterpretation.

I am not looking for people to agree with me, for what? I don't suffer from low self esteem and don't feel the need to prove myself as I am emotionally stable, I have a life, just like a lot of guys on this forum, like Ricker for instance. I never see him posting about how great he is.

I am here to help and contribute to newbies so that they receive accurate information. That's it. This is not my life, ISG and CRT are not my psychologist sofas. I am hoping and helping the newbie to get an objective viewpoint.

As Mark Twain said,"It's not that there is so much we don't know it's that so much of what we do know ain't true."

I know the difference between majorities and exceptions. I don't think Natalia Paris is beautiful but I know the majority of men do. It's called putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Truly a lost art. It would be foolish of me to come here and say a Natalia Paris look alike pro or non pro would be easy to score since her look is not attractive to locals nor expats here in Colombia, based solely on my special circumstance of disliking skinny blondes.

Ditto the answers many here are pushing as the norm. To tell an average 50-60 year old, intermediate spanish speaking guy coming to Colombia on vacation for 10 days that he will easily screw and turn into his LTR girlfriend a beautiful college graduated professional 20 something year old who was never a working girl is just friggen false.

Sure the ISG super studs have pulled it off but it is not the norm any more. Not even close.

If you all are going to spew stories of your greatness like Legal Tender please preface your posts with "I am an exceptional specimen of a man so this what I am about to post does not pertain to you and is a special circumstance" and then proceed to tell us all what a stud you are. This way the newbie will be able to judge accurately.

Give yourself credit guys, USE THE PREFACE don't make it seem as if your just like all the other grunt spanish average overweight poota mongering blundering gringos. Passing yourself and your exceptional experiences as such is not only misleading to the newbie but a disservice to your wonderful self and your wonderful accomplishments.

Just sayin'

Sailor Jim
08-14-12, 20:38
LMAO, Years ago, you could say this but today a Gringo is no longer a novelty.

Having been in this hobby for over 20 years I can say Slamcity is correct and writes some funny shit. The key to non pros today is you need to speak the language, be looking for a serious relationship and put the time in to romance them. As far as the pros go, the blue passport is a signal to charge you more.Exceptional post

Sailor Jim
08-14-12, 20:50
I'm 48 and I've been having a fling with a very attractive and bright 29 year-old here in CHICAGO. And if one can do it in the US, one can likely do it in Colombia. Though obviously, if you don't speak Spanish and don't have some "game," your chances are worse in Colombia than at home.

FWIW, I don't understand the desire the "date" these girls when on vacation. I go on vacation for good weather. And what I call "sport fucking," which almost by definition is with Pros.

Now if I lived in MDE or Cali for an extended period, I would go after non-pros. But for a week or two of vacation, I'd much rather pay upfront and get a guaranteed experience. There's no way you can really get to. Know someone in such a short time period and if you fall in love 3000 miles away from home, it's going to be painful.

BTW,"sport fucking" by no means implies that I treat the girls badly. I always treat them respectively and try to make the experience mutually enjoyable. But I'm still explicitly paying for it.

IMO, date at home and pay while abroad (where it's legal!) makes the most sense.Another great post every word IMHO. I will take a swipe at some guys looking for non pros to say that it may be about the ego boost. Some are not satisfied just getting and paying a hot working girl. They want to feel like they "still got it" and with a pro every other guy's "got it" and "gets it". Hehehehe. So how can he differentiate himself as above the pack unless he comes here to tell us?

Of course some guys looking to screw non pros are trying to save money but we all know that usually non pros end up costing more in the wallet and headache department.

Hasideas Tao
08-15-12, 20:42
I am trying to become a better social networker. Hereby raising a debate, how can we do a better job of filtering the B. S. And promote the sharing of useful facts, actualand not fantasized experiences and trip reports.

IMHO Any flaming or back and forth conversations should be directed through PMs.

Just as we so frequently offer the curt advice. RTFF.

IMO we need a similarly accessable acronym for "nobody cares. Why don't you guys get together for some tea and argue at starfux.

I suggest, PMTMFD. Short for Private message the mo fo directly.

Or NCGAR, nobody cares, get a room.

Or maybe, ORTY, only relevant to you.

With the ability to PM members, why would someone care to publicly discredit one man's logic and imagination. It's like debating if Mickey Ds hamburgers are good or bad. Just eat one and decide for yourself.

Come on guys, don't be a FUC. (Frequently Useless Commentator)

Chesscat
08-16-12, 00:07
I ripped this off from a long-time contributor, if he wishes attribution just let me know.

Sage observation.

"Who the fuck wants to meet upper class women? We got tons of them stateside. We're trying to get the fuck away from that shit, with the child support, the lawyers and alimony. No way. No fucking way. Thats why we come to the Phils. We're here to shoot loads. Bust nuts. Spread seed. To hell with western civilization. And I actually have to spell this out?

First job of a monger is to deplane with a hard cock. And spring into action. Forget 'we are the world'. Start humping and hoin'. Busting sphincters, massive loads deposited etc. When the trip is over, we go back to civilization and assume that false mantle of respectability. Some of us don't even do that. We get back and immediately get into cyber wars with charlatans like Surfer while we rebuild our bank accounts and get ready for the next trip. Shallow? Sure! Give a fuck? Nah! Predictable? Fuck yeah!"

Ricker
08-16-12, 04:50
Another great post every word IMHO. I will take a swipe at some guys looking for non pros to say that it may be about the ego boost. Some are not satisfied just getting and paying a hot working girl. They want to feel like they "still got it" and with a pro every other guy's "got it" and "gets it". Hehehehe. So how can he differentiate himself as above the pack unless he comes here to tell us?

Of course some guys looking to screw non pros are trying to save money but we all know that usually non pros end up costing more in the wallet and headache department.Thats's all true, and I'd add that sometimes it's just nice to be with a girl who really just enjoys being with you too.

I personally dig having a girlfriend in Colombia, Brazil, or wherever I'm hangin my hat at the time, and then selectively choosing the pros to fulfill other desires that may arise.

That's just me of course, others just dig the pros, or don't have time or patience or game, as they say, for the regular girls.

Mr Enternational
08-16-12, 06:48
Another great post every word IMHO. I will take a swipe at some guys looking for non pros to say that it may be about the ego boost. Some are not satisfied just getting and paying a hot working girl. They want to feel like they "still got it" and with a pro every other guy's "got it" and "gets it". Hehehehe. So how can he differentiate himself as above the pack unless he comes here to tell us?

Of course some guys looking to screw non pros are trying to save money but we all know that usually non pros end up costing more in the wallet and headache department.Ego boost? Save money? Guys get caught up in the mongering world and start seeing the real world as being the oddity. What is wrong with just wanting to meet and go out with a nice regular ass woman? LOL..."not satisified just getting and paying a hot working girl."... Like that is the norm.


Thats's all true, and I'd add that sometimes it's just nice to be with a girl who really just enjoys being with you too. I personally dig having a girlfriend in Colombia, Brazil, or wherever I'm hangin my hat at the time, and then selectively choosing the pros to fulfill other desires that may arise.BINGO. I center my shit around non-prostitutes then fill in the gaps when I want or if I have time with hookers. It seems many guys on this board are afraid to attempt to talk to normal women because they are afraid of being turned down so for them hookers are the end all be all. They talk bad about women where they are from because they can't get pussy there. Then they try to talk bad about people who like to be with women who aren't hookers by saying some shit like he must look like Brad Pitt or he is full of himself. Well newsflash, Brad Pitt without money and a camera in his face is just as normal looking as the next guy.

Bango Cheito
08-16-12, 22:34
I would just say in general but ESPECIALLY as far as Colombia is concerned, that you're wasting your time trying to woo a woman. If she's expecting you to do all the courting and doesn't lift a finger, that's ALREADY a serious red flag situation! A Colombian woman if she actually is REALLY attracted to a man will swim shark infested waters to get to him!

If you encounter one of those situations you will definitely fuck on the first or second date, and she will rearrange her life just to be with you, at which point of it's it's appopriate to reciprocate! But it's VERY VERY difficult for a gringo to get there. I do it mainly because I'm a musician. But be warned, Colombian women do NOT like fat men any more than Colombian men like fat women. And when I mean fat, any man who cannot visibly see all his ab muscles in a mirror is considered FAT in Colombia. They also don't like the way gringos dress and act in public (it's not just Colombians, it's a common problem between countries of all sorts obviously).

The quest for non-pros for expats really belongs someplace like Peru perhaps. Colombia is great for pros! Don't mix the planes!

Ricker
08-16-12, 23:28
I would just say in general but ESPECIALLY as far as Colombia is concerned, that you're wasting your time trying to woo a woman. If she's expecting you to do all the courting and doesn't lift a finger, that's ALREADY a serious red flag situation! A Colombian woman if she actually is REALLY attracted to a man will swim shark infested waters to get to him!

If you encounter one of those situations you will definitely fuck on the first or second date, and she will rearrange her life just to be with you, at which point of it's it's appopriate to reciprocate! But it's VERY VERY difficult for a gringo to get there. I do it mainly because I'm a musician. But be warned, Colombian women do NOT like fat men any more than Colombian men like fat women. And when I mean fat, any man who cannot visibly see all his ab muscles in a mirror is considered FAT in Colombia. They also don't like the way gringos dress and act in public (it's not just Colombians, it's a common problem between countries of all sorts obviously).

The quest for non-pros for expats really belongs someplace like Peru perhaps. Colombia is great for pros! Don't mix the planes!Well, I'm not fat but I'm not an olympic gymnast either, I speak pretty good spanish and I'm nice and friendly with a humorous and positive attitude.

Just hasn't seemed that difficult over the years to have the Colombianitas (NPs) to "swim the shark iinfested waters" to hang out, fall in love / lust, etc, etc.
Matter of fact, I got one swimming the water right now, and I'm on my way to see her shortly. :)

You don't have to be a rock star to get it on with regular, good girls in Colombia, but you're right, they're not really looking for slobs or goobers either.

Speak spanish, be cool, decent shape and don't be a sap.

They'll open up to ya.

The problem can be too, once they really dig you, you may just have to swim the shark infested water to get away from 'them if you want to escape.

That's the truth.

Nino Bravo
08-17-12, 02:40
But be warned, Colombian women do NOT like fat men any more than Colombian men like fat women. And when I mean fat, any man who cannot visibly see all his ab muscles in a mirror is considered FAT in Colombia.Not sure where you came up with this. The vast majority of Colombian men are out of shape and don't have 6 pack abs, as is true with the vast majority of all men. So according to you, colombian women don't like most men, since most men cannot visibly see all of their ab muscles in the mirror. With all due respect, your statement is pure non-sense.

I do agree that the majority of gringos don't know how to dress (or act for that matter). But on the other hand, many colombian men don't know how to dress either. I was in a club in Bogota a few weeks pack, in a private party in a VIP area. The colombian men dressed very poorly, with most wearing tennis shoes, torn jeans. And I'm not sure if any here notice, but most colombian men in Bogota are just plain ugly. And of course this bodes well for those gringos who travel to Bogota and who are handsome.

A gringo who has style, speaks fluent spanish, has a great personality, has very good possibilities with most women in Colombia. And no, you don't need to have 6 pack abs. LMAO!

Mr Enternational
08-17-12, 05:14
Well, I'm not fat but I'm not an olympic gymnast either, I speak pretty good spanish and I'm nice and friendly with a humorous and positive attitude.

Just hasn't seemed that difficult over the years to have the Colombianitas (NPs) to "swim the shark iinfested waters" to hang out, fall in love / lust, etc, etc.

Matter of fact, I got one swimming the water right now, and I'm on my way to see her shortly. .

You don't have to be a rock star to get it on with regular, good girls in ColombiaI totally agree with you Ricker. My stomach muscles probably have not been seen since I came out of the womb (military service time included) , but I have had no problem with the women in Colombia. To me they are in the top 3 on the planet as far as looks and caring goes. My first Colombiana was a lawyer and rode the bus 14 hours from Cucuta to Bogota to see me. If that is not going through shark infested waters then I don't know what is.

I met one on the plane today as a matter of fact. Actually she was more Colombian-American. She didn't even know Monserrate in Bogota when I showed her a picture of me there. But anyway she was 26, 5'8", and just got her MBA. We got to talking and she eventually told me that if she didn't just get married she would like to be with me. I quickly told her that I wasn't interested in having a wife. We still traded information and she asked about facebook and said she would add me. A couple of minutes after I thought what an ego booster for her to say something like that. And she was exactly my type.

Ricker
08-17-12, 15:27
I totally agree with you Ricker. My stomach muscles probably have not been seen since I came out of the womb (military service time included) , but I have had no problem with the women in Colombia. To me they are in the top 3 on the planet as far as looks and caring goes. My first Colombiana was a lawyer and rode the bus 14 hours from Cucuta to Bogota to see me. If that is not going through shark infested waters then I don't know what is.

I met one on the plane today as a matter of fact. Actually she was more Colombian-American. She didn't even know Monserrate in Bogota when I showed her a picture of me there. But anyway she was 26, 5'8", and just got her MBA. We got to talking and she eventually told me that if she didn't just get married she would like to be with me. I quickly told her that I wasn't interested in having a wife. We still traded information and she asked about facebook and said she would add me. A couple of minutes after I thought what an ego booster for her to say something like that. And she was exactly my type.Right on amigo!

Once she realizes, however, that you haven't been using your Abs Buster that you ordered from a TV info-mercial, you're toast!

Haha, just jivin'

Take care guys.

MiamiHeatLuver
08-17-12, 17:36
You can bloviate all you want about the younger "hotter" "non pro, LOL" Colombianas accepting old, bald, ugly, out of shape gringos and maybe even some of the "charming" gringos being able to bamboozel some of these chicas into bed BUT keeping them interested and satisfied LONG TERM is another story completely. Most of these girls like to hang out with GOOD LOOKING guys and girls in their own age demographic, just look at their facebook wall. Do you see that guy whos always writing and liking her comments and pictures? Most likely thats the guy she's going out with and banging when your out of the picture. Ask yourself, could I get a girl like this on a regular basis in my own country, if not most likely the girl has an angle. Maybe not blatant but its definitely there. You self proclaimed "casanovas" on here will disagree with me and then we'll have to just agree to DISAGREE because neither if us is changing our minds.

Of course You should take every Colombiana on a case by case basis and your mileage may vary. Take every relationship with a grain of salt and thank the heavens if you ever happen to get on top of them, like I do! LOL Enjoy the moment!

IN COLOMBIA ESPECIALLY: always better to be the cynic, skeptic than the victim pendejo!

Nino Bravo
08-17-12, 18:38
You can bloviate all you want about the younger "hotter" "non pro, LOL" Colombianas accepting old, bald, ugly, out of shape gringos and maybe even some of the "charming" gringos being able to bamboozel some of these chicas into bed BUT keeping them interested and satisfied LONG TERM is another story completely. Most of these girls like to hang out with GOOD LOOKING guys and girls in their own age demographic, just look at their facebook wall. Do you see that guy whos always writing and liking her comments and pictures? Most likely thats the guy she's going out with and banging when your out of the picture. Ask yourself, could I get a girl like this on a regular basis in my own country, if not most likely the girl has an angle. Maybe not blatant but its definitely there. You self proclaimed "casanovas" on here will disagree with me and then we'll have to just agree to DISAGREE because neither if us is changing our minds.

Of course You should take every Colombiana on a case by case basis and your mileage may vary. Take every relationship with a grain of salt and thank the heavens if you ever happen to get on top of them, like I do! LOL Enjoy the moment!

IN COLOMBIA ESPECIALLY: always better to be the cynic, skeptic than the victim pendejo!I agree with your last sentence whole heartedly. And the rest of your post, not so much. I'm in close contact with girls I have met 10 years ago in Colombia, some 5 years ago, who would marry me in a heartbeat. They haven't lost interest. Regarding these beautiful women wanting to hang out with only GOOD LOOKING guys, well, I disagree. Many, many of the most beautiful colombian women I have known (and seen) have been in relationship with guys that were, well, AVERAGE at best. Colombian men as a whole just aren't that good looking to begin with in my humble opinion. And I do agree that you have to take each with a grain of salt, and your mileage may vary, but isn't that true with ALL women?

MiamiHeatLuver
08-17-12, 20:21
I agree with your last sentence whole heartedly. And the rest of your post, not so much. I'm in close contact with girls I have met 10 years ago in Colombia, some 5 years ago, who would marry me in a heartbeat. They haven't lost interest. Regarding these beautiful women wanting to hang out with only GOOD LOOKING guys, well, I disagree. Many, many of the most beautiful colombian women I have known (and seen) have been in relationship with guys that were, well, AVERAGE at best. Colombian men as a whole just aren't that good looking to begin with in my humble opinion. And I do agree that you have to take each with a grain of salt, and your mileage may vary, but isn't that true with ALL women?Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.

These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!

Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!

Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"

Nino Bravo
08-17-12, 21:04
Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.

These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!

Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!

Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"Now, I agree 100% with this post. Well put, especially the last sentence.

Kukulkan
08-17-12, 23:43
Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.

These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!

Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!

Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"AMEN, Amen, Amen

Combo
08-18-12, 02:20
Heat Lover.

And that's why I stick to explicitly pay-for-play when in Colombia or any mongering vacation. Much more honest.

Both sides know what they're getting into. Unless you are there for an extended period of time, chasing non-pros makes no sense (other than to possible boost your ego).

Non-pros are for the USA. My own turf. Pros are for vacation.

BlancoVikingo
08-18-12, 07:57
Young well edcucted females get a salary, after paying income tax, but with health care security. A private company nurse with 3 years university and 5 years working experience earn 2, 2 milion COP. 1,8 after paying income tax.

A girl with 4 years Univerty and 5 years working experience, supervisor, with pension and health care makes 2. 2 after paying income tax.

I have ordinary work in the social sector, withe the option to work 2 x full time and then have corresping salary. I make, with extrawork, +13 millions COP. 11 million after tax. I work extra since I work 24hs shifts, so even with extrawork, I have 2 days free a week. In this calculation I exclude 2, 5 x salary for overtime, which rise my income to 18 million COP. 13, 66 after income tax.

The good looking high estrada girls who likes to in luxury can't afford a car, shopping, etc. Without some kind of income from a top-level CEO or extranjero or bosses in the still ongoing narco-trafficking.

Paisas says to me that prepagos comes from evry strata of the society, price and envkironment is the only different.

Colombianas, especially paisas, has the highest rates in the world selling sex, without necesarily having to do so. 1/3 of the University students according to a survey recently.

They are semi-pro's. They need, let's 2 million a month to keep up with their friends in clothing, Blackberry, vacacion to San Andrés.

http://www.tusalario.org/colombia/Portada

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Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.

These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!

Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!

Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"

BlancoVikingo
08-18-12, 08:19
Colombia is a poor country. Strata 1-2 girls with cars, money exist in almost every country. Colombia has the position 108 according to www.cia.gov. And this a number adjusted for power purchasing parity (PPP)

I have seen the same pattern in other countries.

This girls are among the 5-10. They earn though less what you do- all considered.

I would say 3, 33% are reallly rich and owns the the majority of the countires facories, land and companies, etc. Country. It's a historial pattern since "ever". In most every latinamerican country the pattern is similar.


Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.

These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!

Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!

Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"

Galinsoga
08-18-12, 21:10
Heat Lover.

And that's why I stick to explicitly pay-for-play when in Colombia or any mongering vacation. Much more honest.

Both sides know what they're getting into. Unless you are there for an extended period of time, chasing non-pros makes no sense (other than to possible boost your ego).

Non-pros are for the USA. My own turf. Pros are for vacation.10/10 for this reply. OK, maybe some people will go to Colombia or elsewhere in the hope of finding a soulmate (been there, done that) but most are going for a holiday / on business and want a few shags on the side. I have this planned, albeit that I am just the wrong side of 70! This has never stopped me in the past.

Gali

Kelso1
08-19-12, 00:42
10/10 for this reply. OK, maybe some people will go to Colombia or elsewhere in the hope of finding a soulmate (been there, done that) but most are going for a holiday / on business and want a few shags on the side. I have this planned, albeit that I am just the wrong side of 70! This has never stopped me in the past.

GaliAge is not important in the P4P game. Really only having money, and the wood to get the job done.

If you are in action on that side of 70, then my hat is off to you.

Bango Cheito
08-19-12, 03:23
Not sure where you came up with this. The vast majority of Colombian men are out of shape and don't have 6 pack abs, as is true with the vast majority of all men. So according to you, colombian women don't like most men, since most men cannot visibly see all of their ab muscles in the mirror. With all due respect, your statement is pure non-sense.

I do agree that the majority of gringos don't know how to dress (or act for that matter). But on the other hand, many colombian men don't know how to dress either. I was in a club in Bogota a few weeks pack, in a private party in a VIP area. The colombian men dressed very poorly, with most wearing tennis shoes, torn jeans. And I'm not sure if any here notice, but most colombian men in Bogota are just plain ugly. And of course this bodes well for those gringos who travel to Bogota and who are handsome.

A gringo who has style, speaks fluent spanish, has a great personality, has very good possibilities with most women in Colombia. And no, you don't need to have 6 pack abs. LMAO!Colombian men look better than gringos, by a LONG stretch on average. And men in general are STILL much uglier than women, on average.

I am EXACTLY saying that Colombian women don't like most men, INCLUDING Colombian men, and the vast majority of guy-girl relationships here are purely material based. As a matter of fact, I think the world over, it is that way. Most men are really bad at PHYSICALLY attracting women and have to resort to cash to make up the dif. The average Colombian man is NOT exactly swimming in Colombian pussy by any standard. The majority of men here are stuck jerking off night after night for YEARS, and the best-looking 5% and the richest 5% get ALL the pussy. Nothing new under the sun. And you can talk your way into a woman's pants in Colombia, but it's a tricky and annoying business.

You can look at 'average' behavior of a Colombian man if you don't mind spending all your money just to strike out, which is what most of them do. You can not take care of your body because hardly anybody else does, but then you haven't distinguished yourself.

Anyways my whole point is, if you want to fuck with non-pros here and have the time to invest in it, knock yourself out, but I GUARANTEE you when you add everything up and do a cost-benefit, you will find your peso woulda gone further in the whiskerias. And if you're looking for a serious committed monogamous relationship, I'd say you're in the wrong goddamn UNIVERSE for that sort of thing, but even if you want to be Don Quijote, Colombia should be your LAST choice for that.

I'll go even further, if you've met a girl on Jasmin or Streamate or colombiancupid, or any of those places, there's a good chance one of my close friends or I myself are already deep dicking her on a regular basis, no matter what she tells you! And even if you MOVE to Bogota and THINK you're monitoring her movements 24/7 she will FIND a way to sneak out and get her some of the variety she craves. And that goes for you even IF you have an EIGHT pack, speak 10 languages, are a champion salsa dancer and have millions in the bank. Colombian women like strange dick. PERIOD!

Welcome to Colombia, but check your delusions at the door.

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Bango Cheito
08-19-12, 03:32
Oh, and STOP thinking that girls in the top 2 estratos in Colombia are immune to being gold-diggers. The average Estrato 2 girl doesn't care as much about money, because she typically still lives with her family and even if she doesn't bring in a peso, she still eats. The girl living in an Estrato 6 neighborhoos OTOH typically lives beyond her means and is desparately in debt trying to keep up appearances, and CONSTANTLY giving attention to men to help her balance the books!

Nino Bravo
08-19-12, 13:16
Colombian men look better than gringos, by a LONG stretch on average. And men in general are STILL much uglier than women, on average.

I am EXACTLY saying that Colombian women don't like most men, INCLUDING Colombian men, and the vast majority of guy-girl relationships here are purely material based. As a matter of fact, I think the world over, it is that way. Most men are really bad at PHYSICALLY attracting women and have to resort to cash to make up the dif. The average Colombian man is NOT exactly swimming in Colombian pussy by any standard. The majority of men here are stuck jerking off night after night for YEARS, and the best-looking 5% and the richest 5% get ALL the pussy. Nothing new under the sun. And you can talk your way into a woman's pants in Colombia, but it's a tricky and annoying business.

You can look at 'average' behavior of a Colombian man if you don't mind spending all your money just to strike out, which is what most of them do. You can not take care of your body because hardly anybody else does, but then you haven't distinguished yourself.

Anyways my whole point is, if you want to fuck with non-pros here and have the time to invest in it, knock yourself out, but I GUARANTEE you when you add everything up and do a cost-benefit, you will find your peso woulda gone further in the whiskerias. And if you're looking for a serious committed monogamous relationship, I'd say you're in the wrong goddamn UNIVERSE for that sort of thing, but even if you want to be Don Quijote, Colombia should be your LAST choice for that.

I'll go even further, if you've met a girl on Jasmin or Streamate or colombiancupid, or any of those places, there's a good chance one of my close friends or I myself are already deep dicking her on a regular basis, no matter what she tells you! And even if you MOVE to Bogota and THINK you're monitoring her movements 24/7 she will FIND a way to sneak out and get her some of the variety she craves. And that goes for you even IF you have an EIGHT pack, speak 10 languages, are a champion salsa dancer and have millions in the bank. Colombian women like strange dick. PERIOD!

Welcome to Colombia, but check your delusions at the door.Wow, for one of the few times in my life, I'm at a loss for words.

Galinsoga
08-19-12, 13:52
Age is not important in the P4P game. Really only having money, and the wood to get the job done.

If you are in action on that side of 70, then my hat is off to you.Most definitely still in action. The local (UK) ladies and the wife (Colombian. 25 years younger) would concur. There are limitations of course ie just "one shot" a day these days and it is anyway a blank due to the enlarged prostate problem (all the sensations but no ejaculation) that will catch up with ALL of you eventually. The local Oriental ladies do however have a way of stimulating the prostate. Very pleasant.

Gali

Nicolas11
08-20-12, 19:24
Lots of Italian and Europeans. In the beaches. Great weather.

Went to Playa Hollywood yesterday. Today is a holiday again.

Be glad to show anyone around that doesn't know the city.

I am a former us resident. Now living in Cartagena. You can contact me using the private message system if you need any help.

Regards,

Nicolas

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Phunluv
08-23-12, 08:55
Hey folks,

It's been awhile since I've checked in with the forums. Some interesting recent comments here, with grains of truth in all of them, but also distortions and exaggerations by certain posters.

The main point I want to contribute, or rather remind, is that you guys are simply going to have to do some homework and old-fashioned trial-and-error to find out what works best for you. Because what works great for Ricker or MHL might not work for you at all. Or take someone like Bango Cheito who has some useful comments and observations, but his situation is very unique as an expat musician (and musicians are lucky because of the groupie effect) living and working in BOG, which has certain sectors that have been infested with gringos for years now (due to Plan Colombia and of course, this is the business, political, and cultural center of the country).

Get out of those areas and you can still find colombianas that have never dated a gringo or talked to one, not even online, LOL. Those are the ones you need to find, not the jaded ones that hang out or work in certain chic or tourist-heavy parts of Bogota and Medellin. You might think this corny, but I'll bet you will experience a whole other Colombia (some might even dare to say the real Colombia) outside the teeming cities of BOG & MDE.

There's just one statement that bugs me. At least for me, I don't agree 100% with the statement that "if you don't have game in the states, you won't have any in Colombia." Maybe I'm a strange exception, but I can't possibly be the only one who feels more confident, more relaxed with women once you get off the plane and start speaking in Spanish 99% of the time. Maybe it's the language switch combined with the "adventure" of travel, it's like you adopt another identity. I've never had problems meeting non-pros, in fact, my problem is usually there's too many to juggle, LOL! For me, there's something about latinas that just feels comfortable and right (I've been around them my whole life starting with mom so that has something to do with it I guess) ; and it's just a fantastic feeling to be "at the source" so to speak. And once you've been bitten by the Latin bug, there's no going back to the gringas, even the half-baked latinas you find here in the states don't really cut it for me anymore. Maybe it's just the "magic" or "romance of travel" but I've had a good number of positive experiences outside the states and I suspect there are some other guys out there who have a similar pattern, I can't be the only one!

So I personally wouldn't want to discourage a guy from trying Colombia just because he isn't a casanova in the states. Just the different environment might give a guy a chance to play at being something he's usually not, grow another part of his personality; travel sometimes has this effect. Of course, language is the most important skill, I had that built-in already so maybe that's why my case is somewhat unique.

Ricker
08-23-12, 15:53
Hey folks,

It's been awhile since I've checked in with the forums. Some interesting recent comments here, with grains of truth in all of them, but also distortions and exaggerations by certain posters.

The main point I want to contribute, or rather remind, is that you guys are simply going to have to do some homework and old-fashioned trial-and-error to find out what works best for you. Because what works great for Ricker or MHL might not work for you at all. Or take someone like Bango Cheito who has some useful comments and observations, but his situation is very unique as an expat musician (and musicians are lucky because of the groupie effect) living and working in BOG, which has certain sectors that have been infested with gringos for years now (due to Plan Colombia and of course, this is the business, political, and cultural center of the country).

Get out of those areas and you can still find colombianas that have never dated a gringo or talked to one, not even online, LOL. Those are the ones you need to find, not the jaded ones that hang out or work in certain chic or tourist-heavy parts of Bogota and Medellin. You might think this corny, but I'll bet you will experience a whole other Colombia (some might even dare to say the real Colombia) outside the teeming cities of BOG & MDE.

There's just one statement that bugs me. At least for me, I don't agree 100% with the statement that "if you don't have game in the states, you won't have any in Colombia." Maybe I'm a strange exception, but I can't possibly be the only one who feels more confident, more relaxed with women once you get off the plane and start speaking in Spanish 99% of the time. Maybe it's the language switch combined with the "adventure" of travel, it's like you adopt another identity. I've never had problems meeting non-pros, in fact, my problem is usually there's too many to juggle, LOL! For me, there's something about latinas that just feels comfortable and right (I've been around them my whole life starting with mom so that has something to do with it I guess) ; and it's just a fantastic feeling to be "at the source" so to speak. And once you've been bitten by the Latin bug, there's no going back to the gringas, even the half-baked latinas you find here in the states don't really cut it for me anymore. Maybe it's just the "magic" or "romance of travel" but I've had a good number of positive experiences outside the states and I suspect there are some other guys out there who have a similar pattern, I can't be the only one!

So I personally wouldn't want to discourage a guy from trying Colombia just because he isn't a casanova in the states. Just the different environment might give a guy a chance to play at being something he's usually not, grow another part of his personality; travel sometimes has this effect. Of course, language is the most important skill, I had that built-in already so maybe that's why my case is somewhat unique.Agree. 100 percent.

Obviously the latinas all over South America are just more culturally cariñosa and open, in general, than the gringa.

Like you said, one has to find what works best for them.

Some guys have the gift of the silver tongue, some the gift of dance, music, GQ dressing, great looks, humor, etc, etc.

Of course you'll use these tools that work best for you personally.

Like you, I believe "the game" you must have in the US is not the same as what's required in latin America, because really, the game with the girls itself is different.

This has always been my experience anyway.

WreckDiver
08-26-12, 17:56
Did not know that there are so many economists and psychologist on this forum.

Colombia is fun period.

Bango Cheito
08-27-12, 02:16
Agree. 100 percent.

Obviously the latinas all over South America are just more culturally cariñosa and open, in general, than the gringa.

Like you said, one has to find what works best for them.

Some guys have the gift of the silver tongue, some the gift of dance, music, GQ dressing, great looks, humor, etc, etc.

Of course you'll use these tools that work best for you personally.

Like you, I believe "the game" you must have in the US is not the same as what's required in latin America, because really, the game with the girls itself is different.

This has always been my experience anyway.You DO need to treat people differently here. That goes for business as well as pleasure. Typically acceptable American behavior is considered really rude here. You have to be really flowery with the women, even if it's totally understood it's just a one-night stand.

SlamCity7777
08-27-12, 05:01
You DO need to treat people differently here. That goes for business as well as pleasure. Typically acceptable American behavior is considered really rude here. You have to be really flowery with the women, even if it's totally understood it's just a one-night stand.I have a few buddies who run businesses in Colombia and form what they say some of the typical Colombia business practices are best described as rude and criminal ish!

Best advice to ALL guy with ALL types of girls in South America, Smile and be polite to the girls, do not come off as cheap, and you'll be all set.

WreckDiver
08-27-12, 19:19
Does anyone know how to upload a short video. Please no RTFF reply's a search on either 'video' or 'upload' returns to many search results.

Wreckdiver

Bango Cheito
08-28-12, 07:09
I have a few buddies who run businesses in Colombia and form what they say some of the typical Colombia business practices are best described as rude and criminal ish!

Best advice to ALL guy with ALL types of girls in South America, Smile and be polite to the girls, do not come off as cheap, and you'll be all set.They may rob you blind, but they'll be polite about it :P

Hasideas Tao
08-29-12, 20:12
Speaking of business, what items are easy to transport and sell with a good Return On Investment for a short visit to Colombia?

It would be great if I could offset my expenses. I'm not talking megabucks here I'm just saying it would be nice to cover the cost of my hotel or ehem, whatever.

(Once on a work trip to another destination, a guy said he'd give me $20 if I brought him back a box of hostess ring dings. I brought him the ring dings but refused the money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not tryign to say I'm a nice guy or anything because later I wished I accepted his measly 20 being that we were never able to create that "working bond" in spite of my ring ding generosity. Hehe)

Anyway, since I spend most of my time with females on these visits, I was thinking, stockings / lingerie. (One size fits all, lightweight kind of items but this barely seems worth it considerring how much effort I would have to make for 100 bucks even if I enlisted a "sales representative")

Perfume? (paisas know the difference of bootleg perfume and how do you explain 10 bottles in your luggage)

I noticed planters peanuts are like 5 times as expensive in Colombia but um. Thats not going to work at all.

I was considerring packing 4 or 5 mid to low end computer tablets (coby, google) since this seems to be the latest technology craze here in the states and give or take 50 bucks gain per piece would be acceptable to me or some small pocket digital cameras. But for all I know they already have the same brands available at Exito or Carafour.

(Maybe it goes with out saying but the challenge is being able to buy these items used or wholesale to maximise gains)

Come on guys, someone must have some good suggestions to share. Its not like I or anyone here is going to get into a turf war over this. OR maybe I should think the other way around. Bringing something from Colombia to the US?

Thanks

BayBoy
08-29-12, 21:14
Hola Hasideas Tao. Its been a while since we met at Hooters in Poblado and had a few bears.

I've often thought about bringing Colombian leather works, crafts and woodworks back to California and try to peddle them off. Would anyone buy it?

Kelso1
08-29-12, 21:24
Speaking of business, what items are easy to transport and sell with a good Return On Investment for a short visit to Colombia?

It would be great if I could offset my expenses. I'm not talking megabucks here I'm just saying it would be nice to cover the cost of my hotel or ehem, whatever.

(Once on a work trip to another destination, a guy said he'd give me $20 if I brought him back a box of hostess ring dings. I brought him the ring dings but refused the money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not tryign to say I'm a nice guy or anything because later I wished I accepted his measly 20 being that we were never able to create that "working bond" in spite of my ring ding generosity. Hehe)

Anyway, since I spend most of my time with females on these visits, I was thinking, stockings / lingerie. (One size fits all, lightweight kind of items but this barely seems worth it considerring how much effort I would have to make for 100 bucks even if I enlisted a "sales representative")

Perfume? (paisas know the difference of bootleg perfume and how do you explain 10 bottles in your luggage)

I noticed planters peanuts are like 5 times as expensive in Colombia but um. Thats not going to work at all.

I was considerring packing 4 or 5 mid to low end computer tablets (coby, google) since this seems to be the latest technology craze here in the states and give or take 50 bucks gain per piece would be acceptable to me or some small pocket digital cameras. But for all I know they already have the same brands available at Exito or Carafour.

(Maybe it goes with out saying but the challenge is being able to buy these items used or wholesale to maximise gains)

Come on guys, someone must have some good suggestions to share. Its not like I or anyone here is going to get into a turf war over this. OR maybe I should think the other way around. Bringing something from Colombia to the US?

ThanksTo cover the cost of my checked bag I bring one cartoon of cigs back to the US. I know it is not much, but you asked for sugestions.

SlamCity7777
08-30-12, 00:47
Speaking of business, what items are easy to transport and sell with a good Return On Investment for a short visit to Colombia?

It would be great if I could offset my expenses. I'm not talking megabucks here I'm just saying it would be nice to cover the cost of my hotel or ehem, whatever.

(Once on a work trip to another destination, a guy said he'd give me $20 if I brought him back a box of hostess ring dings. I brought him the ring dings but refused the money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not tryign to say I'm a nice guy or anything because later I wished I accepted his measly 20 being that we were never able to create that "working bond" in spite of my ring ding generosity. Hehe)

Anyway, since I spend most of my time with females on these visits, I was thinking, stockings / lingerie. (One size fits all, lightweight kind of items but this barely seems worth it considerring how much effort I would have to make for 100 bucks even if I enlisted a "sales representative")

Perfume? (paisas know the difference of bootleg perfume and how do you explain 10 bottles in your luggage)

I noticed planters peanuts are like 5 times as expensive in Colombia but um. Thats not going to work at all.

I was considerring packing 4 or 5 mid to low end computer tablets (coby, google) since this seems to be the latest technology craze here in the states and give or take 50 bucks gain per piece would be acceptable to me or some small pocket digital cameras. But for all I know they already have the same brands available at Exito or Carafour.

(Maybe it goes with out saying but the challenge is being able to buy these items used or wholesale to maximise gains)

Come on guys, someone must have some good suggestions to share. Its not like I or anyone here is going to get into a turf war over this. OR maybe I should think the other way around. Bringing something from Colombia to the US?

ThanksI am no expert but pretty much ANYTHING other than pussy is super expensive in Colombia (due to taxes I would imagine). I got my girlfriend a curling iron and blow dryer for her job and when they rang me up it was almost $100 USD! $20 at Target USA or Walmart!

As for 10x anything. They are for my girlfriend and her sister and aunts. End of that chat. Well that's what I"ve said and they just moved me on.

Mr Enternational
08-30-12, 02:24
Its not like I or anyone here is going to get into a turf war over this. OR maybe I should think the other way around. Bringing something from Colombia to the US?Ding! You got it! For every $800 that you spend in CO you could bring in $17000 in the states. But don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Socker
08-31-12, 10:00
I have a few buddies who run businesses in Colombia and form what they say some of the typical Colombia business practices are best described as rude and criminal ish!

Best advice to ALL guy with ALL types of girls in South America, Smile and be polite to the girls, do not come off as cheap, and you'll be all set.This is good advice for any mongering destination but not all humans are alike. The interesting thing is a (really) high percentage of mongers put the squeeze on Lincoln, I / e there are a lot of cheap, tight wad, penny pinching (Lincoln) , mongers out there. I used to fight them but now I realized this is their nature and it is not changeable from the outside. We are meant to be different, one side enhances the other and it is all good, BUT, treat the ladies w / respect so the beauty of it all continues.

The troubles here in the Colombian Thread (hopefully over with) are unusual to me. I bounce between the Philippine and Colombian forums and the former forum is a positive place for the most part. All the main posters there ALWAYS post pics and give insight to the local terrain. Here in the Colombian thread lately it is 3 or 4 guys ganging up (to ridicule) one guy, or 3 or 4 guys back slapping one another for basically nothing. The main guys here are just (for lack of a better word) boring. I don't think thousands of post here or on any other forum (for that matter) makes anyone special, conversely it makes me think you have no life. I have known for a while that posting and being a part of ISG (or other sites) is an addiction of sorts, nothing to be proud of in my view. Some of us want to help others, or brag about what we did, or what we have, and how we can help you get it. Whatever. Pics and TR's is where it's at, period.

I hope and think (going forward) EVERYONE here should be posting pics (IN THE PG) and sharing good intel.

Lets stop the wasted energy. Apply your frustrations away from here, come full circle or shut up. Post pics and good information. If someone is too this or too that so be it, leave them alone. But if they degrade the game then lay into them. You don't like it here, then leave, say your piece and go, it's not hard (to leave) unless your a wimp.

One last thing. I am a defender of the working girls worldwide. Why? Because I want to fuck, suck and laugh w / all of them. I want to kick back someday and talk pussy and smoke a killer cigar w / my fellow pussy lovers. Is it too much of me to ask that the rest of you respect the pussy? Half (of us) already do but the macho ones, you know, gods gift to us all, think it's all about them. I'm not a follower I'm a leader types need to take a deep breath and relax. The macho guys alway use the,"he's a captain save a ho" or MHL would say a Kimbaya guy. Nobody here or on any other forum has the anti PC credentials I have, I blow most others away. I stand up for the working girls because they have a right to feel good about themselves. They are not able to access this site and defend themselves against the ignorant shit said about them here. And lastly because I was taught not to shit where I eat, NEVER! Before you criticize someone, step in their shoes, could you do it better? If not than shut TFU.

The criminal types that have come out from under the rocks (here) lately and are now gone is a real good thing. It seems Colombian Women bring out a different type of monger. Thank you Jackson, your garbage disposal is working nicely, keep it ready for the next disrespectful shitheads. In 10 days I'm in Medellin and I will fucking enjoy EVERY SQUARE INCH OF IT! All The Freaking Best God Damn It. Jeje.

Pics and TR to follow.

Hasideas Tao
08-31-12, 15:13
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Like I said, it would be nice to cover some expenses. It's not like I drop tons of cash. So, with a little knowledge, planning and experience, it seems to me like I could deeply discount the trip and at least enhance the fun!

I really don't understand how I could spend $800 in Colombia and convert that into $17000 (I think you mean $1700) in the states. Enlighten me.

Can anyone easily reference the "transport of goods" regulations and limits for the benefit of this forum?

On the trip home:

I could definitely trade a carton of cigarettes within minutes of landing back in the states. Good one.

Leather goods and handmade stuff. Sounds tricky. Maybe if I knew someone with some kind of hand made ethnic or import specialty store. Which as a matter of fact, I just thought of a shop and maybe I can make a deal with them.

On the way down:

Curling iron idea and beauty appliances in general I think are also good ideas. I think a stop at Walmart may be in order.

Whenever I ask a girl what she wants, I usually hear "perfume, cream and electronics" I realize most perfumes are upwards of $50 a bottle and I know a great discount place with the real deal in NYC. Anyone know a web site in CO where I could research their prices?

It's been said they go crazy for Victoria Secret stuff but IMO, VS is way over price for the quality and seems like thats the kind of thing you gift or trade.

Also, there seems to be no limit on what a Paisa will pay for designer jeans. Any thoughts on that?

Thanks

Manizales911
08-31-12, 15:22
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Like I said, it would be nice to cover some expenses. It's not like I drop tons of cash. So, with a little knowledge, planning and experience, it seems to me like I could deeply discount the trip and at least enhance the fun!

I really don't understand how I could spend $800 in Colombia and convert that into $17000 (I think you mean $1700) in the states. Enlighten me.

Can anyone easily reference the "transport of goods" regulations and limits for the benefit of this forum?

On the trip home:

I could definitely trade a carton of cigarettes within minutes of landing back in the states. Good one.

Leather goods and handmade stuff. Sounds tricky. Maybe if I knew someone with some kind of hand made ethnic or import specialty store. Which as a matter of fact, I just thought of a shop and maybe I can make a deal with them.

On the way down:

Curling iron idea and beauty appliances in general I think are also good ideas. I think a stop at Walmart may be in order.

Whenever I ask a girl what she wants, I usually hear "perfume, cream and electronics" I realize most perfumes are upwards of $50 a bottle and I know a great discount place with the real deal in NYC. Anyone know a web site in CO where I could research their prices?

It's been said they go crazy for Victoria Secret stuff but IMO, VS is way over price for the quality and seems like thats the kind of thing you gift or trade.

Also, there seems to be no limit on what a Paisa will pay for designer jeans. Any thoughts on that?

ThanksHasideas, you need to get out more often if you don't know what you can buy in Colombia and resell in the USA for huge profits. Nose candy. Please, if the thought of doing this even crosses your mind go out and rent the movie "Midnight Express" and it will change your mind.

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08-31-12, 15:39
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MiamiHeatLuver
08-31-12, 16:36
It's been said they go crazy for Victoria Secret stuff but IMO, VS is way over price for the quality and seems like thats the kind of thing you gift or trade.Would have been a nice idea if you could have bought a shit load over in bulk around 10 years ago, now it's very old hat! Every girl I know has some or sells some. Too much gringo interaction.

Manizales911
08-31-12, 22:22
Would have been a nice idea if you could have bought a shit load over in bulk around 10 years ago, now it's very old hat! Every girl I know has some or sells some. Too much gringo interaction.I met a young guy on a flight from MIA-BOG once that claimed he made a decent buck by muling over a couple of large suitcases crammed with Levi Jeans. I also know a guy who still brings over a ton of VS stuff and he claims his novia unloads all he can carry in just a couple weeks. I think the reason for this is she isn't selling it to people in the immediate city of Medellin, they live in a pueblo just outside Medellin.

Personally I couldn't be bothered with the bullshit that almost certainly comes with trying to do something like that. My novia in Manizales and several friends ask me why I don't do something like this every time I come, their concept of making good money and my concept of making good money are light years apart and they just don't understand it.

Bango Cheito
09-01-12, 03:02
My ex and I tried that back in 2006 with a suitcase full of Victoria's. The people were all excited but when they actually saw the merch, they didn't like the quality and those that we were stupid enough not to get money up front from didn't want to pay us. We barely broke even.

If you know where to look here in Bogota you don't pay extra for ANYTHING. Markups in upscale Colombian neighborhoods are INSANE. Sometimes you can even get shit for cheaper than what you'd pay in the US!

And Colombian leather is difficult to sell out of Colombia because it's really not competitive outside the country for quality / price.

I gave up on all that years ago.

BlancoVikingo
09-01-12, 15:05
It has occured to me that many Guapas have one or more best photos taken at a hotel or love motel room.

My experience is that is a strong indicator for her to be a prepago, but no garantee of course.

It's easy to see, on the walls, the bed etc. That it is in a hotel.

This is my personal reflexion surfing the Cupid-sites since 2007.

I have also reflected over that many Guapas are on this site very long time, while it would take a few days to find a willing and for her long term interestes adequate gringo or Europeo.

Cupid, eventually has become sites for prepagos, escorts and scammers. One should demand verification, which now are an option, from the girl you are communicating with.

Legal Tender
09-14-12, 01:26
I've got an extra IPhone 3G through ATT. Can this be used in Medellin with a new sim card with Comcel or another local provider. Any recommendation when I can get the phone modified to use there?

Thanks

Orgasm Donor
09-14-12, 01:47
I've got an extra IPhone 3G through ATT. Can this be used in Medellin with a new sim card with Comcel or another local provider. Any recommendation when I can get the phone modified to use there?

ThanksI assume since this is an IPhone 3G you have fulfilled your contract with ATT. If this is the case, go here, read the conditions, check the box, fill out the details, and ATT will send you the unlock code in about a week. This is the "legit" way to do it.

https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/

Another option is to look on craigslist for unlocking or jailbreaking service. Under "electronics".

Personally, I turn off all data on my IPhone when I arrive in Colombia. If you use data or location services on your ATT there, your bill will be uh. Breathtaking when you return home. I leave my IPhone in the hotel safe, use the hotel wi-fi to use skype to return calls back to the USA.

I don't want my IPhone to be bait for ladrones, so I buy a cheap basic phone in Colombia, to call my Colombia contacts. I keep too much valuable info on my phone, and don't want to call any unwanted attention to myself.

Hope this helps! Cheers!

Mr Enternational
09-14-12, 09:49
Do it the legit way as OD has stated. A lot of times when you jail break the phones they never work right again. I use the same phone (AT&T 3G iPhone) for overseas use. My cousin gave it to me but he had jail broken it. In the DR it always works fine, but when I use it in Peru and Thailand it sporadically says "No SIM", then I have to reboot the phone until the next episode. In Peru they couldn't figure it out. They even replaced some of the contacts that connect to the SIM. In Thailand he said it was probably due to that Cydia program that was on it before.

Vitrea
09-14-12, 10:06
I've got an extra IPhone 3G through ATT. Can this be used in Medellin with a new sim card with Comcel or another local provider. Any recommendation when I can get the phone modified to use there?

ThanksI agree with the other two. Absolutely do it the legit way. Since it is 3G phone I am sure it is more than 2 yrs old. If that is the case and If you are currently in the US, take it to any ATT store and they will unlock it for you in minutes for free. You can then use it anywhere they have GSM, which is in of the most of the world.

BayBoy
09-14-12, 17:50
I went into a pharmacy here in Cali and asked for Generic Viagra (Sildenafil). I was surprised when the pharmacist told me that its on sale for 1, 200 Col. Pesos per tablet. 50 mil. Each. Usually it goes for 2, 000 pesos. So I bought some. Thats 65c per, pretty darn cheap.

By the way, its not for me, but a friend of mine in California.

Hanshin Baka
09-15-12, 00:57
By the way, its not for me, but a friend of mine in California.That's really funny, I always say that too to the woman working in the pharmacy.

World Travel 69
09-16-12, 06:24
Check this Thread.

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?6937-2012-Elections-in-the-USA&p=426380&viewfull=1#post426380

Monger#77
09-22-12, 18:10
Anyone have any idea how I can buy an unlocked cellphone in the states and a SIM with cell service in Colombia?

Another question is, how hard would it be to get to Manizales from Bogota? Or it is preferable to do from Medellin?

Sympalogy
09-22-12, 19:10
Anyone have any idea how I can buy an unlocked cellphone in the states and a SIM with cell service in Colombia?This other thread has the information you want :

Using cellphones in Colombia (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2914-Using-cellphones-in-Colombia)

Tiny 12
09-22-12, 19:29
Check this Thread.

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?6937-2012-Elections-in-the-USA&p=426380&viewfull=1#post426380Aaargh! We should keep the cage fighting in the cage IMHO and not wander over here to the Colombia thread.

Samu Ray
09-22-12, 20:11
I bought a Motorola quad band on Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles. It costed me about $100. No questions asked. Outside the USA they will ask for your passport.

World Travel 69
09-22-12, 22:36
http://www.myworldphone.com/

Buy an unlocked quad band phone thru these guys. Buy a SIM in Colombia and you are ready to talk or text.


Anyone have any idea how I can buy an unlocked cellphone in the states and a SIM with cell service in Colombia?

Another question is, how hard would it be to get to Manizales from Bogota? Or it is preferable to do from Medellin?

BlancoVikingo
09-24-12, 08:18
Is it correct that the toursit VISA is 60 days and that I have to get a prolongation at the DAS-office in Bogota? I happen to have 72 days free. Can I travel to Ecuador or Panama or Venezuela and then re-enter Colombia in a few days and have another 60 days?

Greatful for help on this issue.

TuDueno
09-24-12, 18:36
Is it correct that the toursit VISA is 60 days and that I have to get a prolongation at the DAS-office in Bogota? I happen to have 72 days free. Can I travel to Ecuador or Panama or Venezuela and then re-enter Colombia in a few days and have another 60 days?

Greatful for help on this issue.Provided that you are from a country (for example USA) exempt from visa requirements for tourist visits, you can stay up to 90 days in the Colombia. However you are only exempt from the exit tax (impuesto se salida) if you stay less than 60 days (or less than 180 days if you are a Colombian with residence in a foreign country).

John Gault
09-24-12, 23:55
Is it correct that the toursit VISA is 60 days and that I have to get a prolongation at the DAS-office in Bogota? I happen to have 72 days free. Can I travel to Ecuador or Panama or Venezuela and then re-enter Colombia in a few days and have another 60 days?

Greatful for help on this issue.Two years ago I was in Colombia for 66 days. I had to go to the MDE DAS to get a visa extension. They made me jump thru many hoops for three days till I got my stamp. Then at the airport they charged me again the same price as DAS did in MDE. Things may have changed, and you can stay over 60 days now, but if I was away for over 60 days I would either go to Panama or Equador before the 60 days was up, and then return for a fresh time period. I wrote a post back in 2010 explaining the DAS nightmare I endured.

I also heard that DAS is either disbanded or somehow changed. No matter what if I were you I would not spend 72 days in Colombia. That is to long for me, and I love the Country.

Medvetz63
10-02-12, 00:03
I am native speaker fluent in reading, writing and speaking Spanish, so language is no barrier for me when visiting a Spanish speaking country.

I have been to the Dominican Republic more than 15 times since April of 2008 and I like it very much. However, I am very curious about Colombia and would like to hear from people who have been to both places (DR & Col.) in order to get an idea as to whether Colombia is as good, better, or worse than the DR for meeting women.

Are the women as easy to meet as in the DR? In the DR you can meet them on buses, stores, restaurants, the street, etc. Of course I'm talking from the perspective of someone who's fluent is Spanish, if one is not it might not be as easy.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, and I'll be more than happy to give advice about the DR, as I now have many connections there due to my numerous visits. I also have residency there and I've been all over the country.

BlancoVikingo
10-05-12, 18:31
Thanks John Gault.

I came over this info :

http://www.colombia.travel/es/turista-internacional/informacion-practica/viajar-a-colombia-informacion-y-consejos/antes-de-venir/visas-y-permisos

No existe restriccióand de nacionalidades para el ingreso a Colombia. Se requiere visa salvo para nacionales de los siguientes países que permanezcan un máximo de 90 theías en territorio colombiano con fines exclusivamente turísticos: Argentina, Austria, Barbados, Bélgica, Brasil, Canadá, Costa Rica, Chile, Dinamarca, Ecuador, El Salvador, España, Estados Unidos, Finlandia, Francia, Gran Bretaña, Guatemala, Italia, Japóand, Liechtenstein, Luxemburgo, México, Noruega, Países Bajos, Perú, Polonia, República de Corea (Corea del Sur) , Alemania, Suecia, Suiza, Trinidad why Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela why residentes extranjeros de Canadá why Estados Unidos.

I have now sent emails to Colombias Emabssy in Sweden and Swedens Embassy in Bogota and Consulate in Medellin. If the limit is 90 days it is good for us tourists, but I need a conformation, I remember that it was 60 days in 2009.

I will also ask those institutes to clearify if one get 60/90 new days if one leave and re-enter Colombia.

I will be back with info.

Help on this issues are welcomed.


Two years ago I was in Colombia for 66 days. I had to go to the MDE DAS to get a visa extension. They made me jump thru many hoops for three days till I got my stamp. Then at the airport they charged me again the same price as DAS did in MDE. Things may have changed, and you can stay over 60 days now, but if I was away for over 60 days I would either go to Panama or Equador before the 60 days was up, and then return for a fresh time period. I wrote a post back in 2010 explaining the DAS nightmare I endured.

I also heard that DAS is either disbanded or somehow changed. No matter what if I were you I would not spend 72 days in Colombia. That is to long for me, and I love the Country.

BlancoVikingo
10-08-12, 18:10
Receive a cordial greeting.

Responding to your concerns.

First, according to the circumstances that pointed out, citizens carriers of Swedish passport valid may be in Colombian territory a maximum of one hundred and eighty (180) days, continuous or discontinuous, during the same calendar year (2012).

Second, the normal procedure that applies to any tourist upon arrival is authorize their initial entrance up to ninety (90) days. This period can be extended by filing an application for extension, before expiration of the period originally authorized, before the migration office nearest Colombia (Old Administrative Security Department D. A. S). Migration Colombia has offices in all capital cities of department).

Third, if your entrance allowed to Colombia are sixty (60) days, I recommend that before the end of the term is closer to an office of Migration Colombia, to request an extension.

Hopes this helpes

ElDirtyGringo
10-14-12, 07:13
Hello fellow mongers. Used to be on this site back in 08,

Took a hiatus, lost my password, forgot my username, and now the monger in me has awoken. I'm back, but I have some questions?

I'm really wanting to check out Medellin and Bogota. (never been). Reading all the great stories on this site, combined with my fondness of sweet latina pussy, I'm ready to dive in!

But gentleman, I got to tell ya, I've been doing some recon over at latinamericancupid. Com along with the colombiancupid. Com sites, and to be honest, I'm really not super impressed with the ladies on these sites.

Please tell me that these are the C list girls, because if they are not, I'm going to be really dissappointed.

Keep in mind, I love latinas, I've dated them all my life, but I must know. Are the women in Medellin really as hot as everyone claims they are?

I've met gorgeous colombian pussies in Miami, so I know they are out there, but I just need some reassurance that the ladies are as hot as everyone hypes them up to be.

I've seen the pics on ISG, and there are some lookers, but I'm really wanting some prime time pussy when I get out there. Life is too short, and I don't get out of the states very often, So I'm looking to fuck nothing less that an 8.

Give me some reassurance guys!

Member #4394
10-15-12, 01:52
Average Colombianas look worse than the Cupid, or whatever, chicas.


Hello fellow mongers. Used to be on this site back in 08,

Took a hiatus, lost my password, forgot my username, and now the monger in me has awoken. I'm back, but I have some questions?

I'm really wanting to check out Medellin and Bogota. (never been). Reading all the great stories on this site, combined with my fondness of sweet latina pussy, I'm ready to dive in!

But gentleman, I got to tell ya, I've been doing some recon over at latinamericancupid. Com along with the colombiancupid. Com sites, and to be honest, I'm really not super impressed with the ladies on these sites.

Please tell me that these are the C list girls, because if they are not, I'm going to be really dissappointed.

Keep in mind, I love latinas, I've dated them all my life, but I must know. Are the women in Medellin really as hot as everyone claims they are?

I've met gorgeous colombian pussies in Miami, so I know they are out there, but I just need some reassurance that the ladies are as hot as everyone hypes them up to be.

I've seen the pics on ISG, and there are some lookers, but I'm really wanting some prime time pussy when I get out there. Life is too short, and I don't get out of the states very often, So I'm looking to fuck nothing less that an 8.

Give me some reassurance guys!

Ricker
10-15-12, 03:18
. I've met gorgeous colombian pussies in Miami, so I know they are out there, but I just need some reassurance that the ladies are as hot as everyone hypes them up to be.

I've seen the pics on ISG, and there are some lookers, but I'm really wanting some prime time pussy when I get out there. Life is too short, and I don't get out of the states very often, So I'm looking to fuck nothing less that an 8.

Give me some reassurance guys!It's all hype.

Stick to the Miami strip clubs, that's where you'll find the real hotties.

I've been hanging in Colombia for about 15 years, haven't seen one to brag about yet.

Hmmmmm

Nino Bravo
10-15-12, 11:24
It's all hype.

Stick to the Miami strip clubs, that's where you'll find the real hotties.

I've been hanging in Colombia for about 15 years, haven't seen one to brag about yet.

HmmmmmYeah, the same with me Ricker. Damn this DirtyGringo must be quite the catch to be so picky. Wonder what those ugly Colombian girls on the cupid websites say when they see HIS pictures? LMAO!

John Gault
10-15-12, 13:15
It's all hype.

Stick to the Miami strip clubs, that's where you'll find the real hotties.

I've been hanging in Colombia for about 15 years, haven't seen one to brag about yet.

HmmmmmThey all want reassurance. Really what can you say to that? This is almost as bad as the constant begging for a Help type club in Medellin.

As far as the beauty of the Colombian women I have to agree with you that the pickens are slim indeed. This fellow should just stick to Tootsie's in Miami.

You Can
10-16-12, 01:44
I been to Colombia a few times and I can't recommend it if your looking for really hot women. They just arent there. I wish I could be of more help to tell you where to find the hot chics but I haven't found that place yet. But its definitely not Colombia.


Hello fellow mongers. Used to be on this site back in 08,

Took a hiatus, lost my password, forgot my username, and now the monger in me has awoken. I'm back, but I have some questions?

I'm really wanting to check out Medellin and Bogota. (never been). Reading all the great stories on this site, combined with my fondness of sweet latina pussy, I'm ready to dive in!

But gentleman, I got to tell ya, I've been doing some recon over at latinamericancupid. Com along with the colombiancupid. Com sites, and to be honest, I'm really not super impressed with the ladies on these sites.

Please tell me that these are the C list girls, because if they are not, I'm going to be really dissappointed.

Keep in mind, I love latinas, I've dated them all my life, but I must know. Are the women in Medellin really as hot as everyone claims they are?

I've met gorgeous colombian pussies in Miami, so I know they are out there, but I just need some reassurance that the ladies are as hot as everyone hypes them up to be.

I've seen the pics on ISG, and there are some lookers, but I'm really wanting some prime time pussy when I get out there. Life is too short, and I don't get out of the states very often, So I'm looking to fuck nothing less that an 8.

Give me some reassurance guys!

BlancoVikingo
10-16-12, 18:38
I must have such bad taste since I adore Colombianas and their sister in Venezuela. Well, less competition then.

I would recommend culioneros.com produced by BangBros.

I wonder if you mongers also likes this site and if we could give bangbros signales that they have a market. This site is a treasure, Colombin porno, or from any other latin country is hard to find, except Brasil.

It is great substitute while working in Sex-Prison.

ElDirtyGringo
10-18-12, 04:21
gentlemen,

in regards to my last post about the colombian pussies being the real deal. i appreciate every ones input. i guess the old saying "the grass is greener on the other side" may apply here. i really don't consider myself picky, i've been know to tag a few 5's in my day, and thats the reason i'm looking for top notch pussies in colombia.

i work hard, just like the rest of us, and when i get a chance to leave sex prison, i want to go all out! you guys know what i mean.

maybe i've been spoiled from my trip to sweden this summer and my expectations need to be lowered. even if thats the case, i still look forward to visiting colombia and scooping up some 8's or 9's. i'll treat it like a treasure hunt!

when i was in sweden, i went to a bar in uppsala (a swedish college town) and picked up two nineteen year old buxom blondies that practically raped me on the dance floor. no bullshit! not to mention, in sweden the broads buy their own drinks and actually get offended if you offer. no bullshit!

it was pretty much the best free sex i've ever had in my life. now i know colombia is the exact opposite, this aint my first rodeo dealing with the latina's. i expect to drop some cash, and i'm willing for the right pussy.

thanks for the input gents. see you on the flip side

Nino Bravo
10-18-12, 12:35
gentlemen,

in regards to my last post about the colombian pussies being the real deal. i appreciate every ones input. i guess the old saying "the grass is greener on the other side" may apply here. i really don't consider myself picky, i've been know to tag a few 5's in my day, and thats the reason i'm looking for top notch pussies in colombia.

i work hard, just like the rest of us, and when i get a chance to leave sex prison, i want to go all out! you guys know what i mean.

maybe i've been spoiled from my trip to sweden this summer and my expectations need to be lowered. even if thats the case, i still look forward to visiting colombia and scooping up some 8's or 9's. i'll treat it like a treasure hunt!

when i was in sweden, i went to a bar in uppsala (a swedish college town) and picked up two nineteen year old buxom blondies that practically raped me on the dance floor. no bullshit! not to mention, in sweden the broads buy their own drinks and actually get offended if you offer. no bullshit!

it was pretty much the best free sex i've ever had in my life. now i know colombia is the exact opposite, this aint my first rodeo dealing with the latina's. i expect to drop some cash, and i'm willing for the right pussy.

thanks for the input gents. see you on the flip sidewell, hell, why not return to sweden? if you are picking up 19 year old hot swedish women just by strutting your stuff on the dance floor, why bother going to colombia where you admit it will cost you alot of cash? what brand of cologne were you wearing that night? or are you just soooo physically irresistible that hot 19 year old college women [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you on the dance floor? if that is the case, don't plan on spending too much money in colombia for pussy. or anywhere else in the world. really, no bullshit!

Chesscat
10-18-12, 19:16
I think we should give an award for the first guy to spot the troll. So I win! ElDirtyGringo is the troll.

Vitrea
10-19-12, 08:09
I bought a Motorola quad band on Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles. It costed me about $100. No questions asked. Outside the USA they will ask for your passport.It is good advice but passport is not needed in most countries to buy just the phone. In several countries they might ask for passport when you want to buy a SIM card though.

Fish Pargo
10-19-12, 20:56
Hi everyone. Kind of new here, been a lurker for a few weeks LOL. I am sad to report that it appears my marriage is nearing its time. Not my choice and not because of my wandering. I stopped during the marriage. Prior to getting married I went a few times to CR, Panama and Colombia (MDE, CTG). I got tired of the Del at CR rather quickly. Panama is ok but not a amazing spot for mongering. I am looking to try and recover, I am not taking it well, and need some time for myself. But afterwards I don't feel I want to settle back down right away. Any advice where you would go to first?

Info:

My spanish is poor.

I am not into plastic bodies, although big tits are always nice.

Body preference I would call curvy or voluptuous but definitely not into fat girls. Flacas, but I mean really flaca does nothing for me usually.

Skin Mocha, dark tanned, but really no racial preference.

Very much into GFE, not much of PSE kind of a guy.

Budget : after room and food I would guess $600. 800 a day?

I figured COlombia because it is so close to FLorida, but then again so is the Dominican. I just do not know the personality of DR women. FYI, my soon to be Ex is a Boriqua. (great woman actually, we just don't mesh. Apparently.) Thailand seems like a long haul right now as is the philipines, and my biz Thank God is growing even in this economy, I am the owner and I rather stay close to it right now.

Thanks for the input, and yes I have read the forum, I am not asking for names or suggestions on MP or what hotels, More on what area has more of my taste of women since I have been out for a while.

Kelso1
10-20-12, 13:00
Hi everyone. Kind of new here, been a lurker for a few weeks LOL. I am sad to report that it appears my marriage is nearing its time. Not my choice and not because of my wandering. I stopped during the marriage. Prior to getting married I went a few times to CR, Panama and Colombia (MDE, CTG). I got tired of the Del at CR rather quickly. Panama is ok but not a amazing spot for mongering. I am looking to try and recover, I am not taking it well, and need some time for myself. But afterwards I don't feel I want to settle back down right away. Any advice where you would go to first?

Info:

My spanish is poor.

I am not into plastic bodies, although big tits are always nice.

Body preference I would call curvy or voluptuous but definitely not into fat girls. Flacas, but I mean really flaca does nothing for me usually.

Skin Mocha, dark tanned, but really no racial preference.

Very much into GFE, not much of PSE kind of a guy.

Budget : after room and food I would guess $600. 800 a day?

I figured COlombia because it is so close to FLorida, but then again so is the Dominican. I just do not know the personality of DR women. FYI, my soon to be Ex is a Boriqua. (great woman actually, we just don't mesh. Apparently.) Thailand seems like a long haul right now as is the philipines, and my biz Thank God is growing even in this economy, I am the owner and I rather stay close to it right now.

Thanks for the input, and yes I have read the forum, I am not asking for names or suggestions on MP or what hotels, More on what area has more of my taste of women since I have been out for a while.Sorry for your marital woes. I think a great many on this forum have gone thru it also. I think you will find getting back into the swing of things is much better with P4P than trying to get a Non Pro. I know myself it took a first trip to CR to get me back on track.

Based on the info you have supplied I would go to one of the resorts that are girl all inclusive in the DR. I say this because it would appear that you don't have a lot of time due to your business to be away long enough to to get a GFE from hunting. The AI's in the Dr are expensive, but from your budget that should be no problem. The beauty of this setup is the girls are trained to supply the GFE, and you can keep one or more for the whole trip or switch off to another one or take two if you are up to it. Google it, and you will be in business after the short flight. Have fun, and a report back would be nice as there is not much feedback from this type of venue.

Chesscat
10-20-12, 17:15
You couldn't go wrong with either DR or Colombia. You have lots of dollars, more than you need. You might consider Cartagena as well as Medellin or Bogota.

Fish Pargo
10-20-12, 19:44
Hi,

Thanks for the input guys. Yes I am really considering the DR as my first pit stop. I have a fishing trip for Tuna in Feb with some buds, but they are hard core p4p guys. And my main reason to go is fishing (shocking I know.).

I did not post my finacnes as a point to rub in anyone face, It was just to give detail for more accurate suggestions. I like Colombia, but the Paisas I have been with in the past tend to be very into silicon, even in the ass. I think most women are a lot more sexy if they just strut the natural assets and are confident in bed. The only concern I have about the DR is mixed reports I have read. Some reports suggests that the darker women do not prefer to be with light skinned men. Yeah I know its all about the money, but I know most guys have that small connection that makes the sex better then just P4P. My two cents.

Anyways, I hope to be able to post soon a report. Meanwhile I will try to not be a silent lurker.

As for the marriage, yeah trust me it hurts. I am not one bit happy about it. I stopped mongering for my marriage, so that wasnt the issue. I love my kids dearly. I guess you just grow apart sometimes.

Anyways, I will enjoy reading reports until my first trip. I have already googles some inclusive resorts and will post some questions about it in the appropriate thread.

Member #4394
10-20-12, 19:59
ditto. good answer.


you couldn't go wrong with either dr or colombia. you have lots of dollars, more than you need. you might consider cartagena as well as medellin or bogota.

Combo
10-21-12, 01:23
Hi everyone. Kind of new here, been a lurker for a few weeks LOL. I am sad to report that it appears my marriage is nearing its time. Not my choice and not because of my wandering. I stopped during the marriage. Prior to getting married I went a few times to CR, Panama and Colombia (MDE, CTG). I got tired of the Del at CR rather quickly. Panama is ok but not a amazing spot for mongering. I am looking to try and recover, I am not taking it well, and need some time for myself. But afterwards I don't feel I want to settle back down right away. Any advice where you would go to first?

Info:

My spanish is poor.

I am not into plastic bodies, although big tits are always nice.

Body preference I would call curvy or voluptuous but definitely not into fat girls. Flacas, but I mean really flaca does nothing for me usually.

Skin Mocha, dark tanned, but really no racial preference.

Very much into GFE, not much of PSE kind of a guy.

Budget : after room and food I would guess $600. 800 a day?

I figured COlombia because it is so close to FLorida, but then again so is the Dominican. I just do not know the personality of DR women. FYI, my soon to be Ex is a Boriqua. (great woman actually, we just don't mesh. Apparently.) Thailand seems like a long haul right now as is the philipines, and my biz Thank God is growing even in this economy, I am the owner and I rather stay close to it right now.

Thanks for the input, and yes I have read the forum, I am not asking for names or suggestions on MP or what hotels, More on what area has more of my taste of women since I have been out for a while.$600. $800 a day? With that kind of budget, I'd just head to Rio. Though not what it used to be, it's still the best destination in the Western Hemisphere, if not the World.

I do agree with the others though that DR and Colombia are solid choices and of course are very close to Florida.

Fish Pargo
10-21-12, 04:46
$600. $800 a day? With that kind of budget, I'd just head to Rio. Though not what it used to be, it's still the best destination in the Western Hemisphere, if not the World.

I do agree with the others though that DR and Colombia are solid choices and of course are very close to Florida.Really? No I am not being sarcastic. So Rio / Brazil has my type / preference of women? It seemed to me that they were more european looking at times, and I had not read to much to point to a GFE setup. It seemed more of a Terma (MP?) kind of a place since HELP closed. To top it off my Portuguese is worse then my spanish. On the other hand I could roll in Israel or arab countries (Yeah not going to happen) with no language problems.

Now mind you when I say GFE, I do not mean non paying, I am referring to what some guys find and pay for, which is a roll in the bed but a also a good time outside the bed, or in the bed after the roll. LOL. I completely understand going back into the hobby that in the end it is about the money. But it is nice to almost forget for a few minutes when there, no? LOL (as long as I don't loose full perspective)

As far as the budget, I have several friends that roll much higher, they have their respective taste which is more on the finding the "upper class" GFE escorts. What ever that means. I tend to find their "upper class" nenas to simply be snobs, but that is my take on the trips. Thats for another story at another time.

Thanks so far guys for your help

Ricker
10-21-12, 12:12
you couldn't go wrong with either dr or colombia. you have lots of dollars, more than you need. you might consider cartagena as well as medellin or bogota.freshly divorced, kinda down and sad, not good spanish.

just go the medellin mansion, or now called medellin plaza. you'll have it all.

lots of pretty girls, mostly gfe, good guys mostly to get advice and wingman.

if desired.

perfect place to start your new and probably happier life.

ps : of all the latinas, imo, the boriquas (pr) are by far the most spoiled and difficult.

don't get down on yourself, count your blessings and move on.

good luck amigo!

Fish Pargo
10-21-12, 13:30
Freshly divorced, kinda down and sad, not good spanish.

Just go the Medellin Mansion, or now called Medellin Plaza. You'll have it all.

Lots of pretty girls, mostly GFE, good guys mostly to get advice and wingman.

If desired.

Perfect place to start your new and probably happier life.

PS : Of all the latinas, IMO, the Boriquas (PR) are by far the most spoiled and difficult.

Don't get down on yourself, count your blessings and move on.

Good luck amigo!Thanks for the input.

Yeah not divorced yet, just separated. But it is over. Sad? Yes, but I figure maybe not rush off right away. I don't want to be too emotionally vulnerable and fall into a nena trap. I have read many horror reports, I don't want to be one. I will try the Medellin mansion I am sure. Do they have costena there? Or are they all light skinned? Don't get me wrong, I like them all, but if I get to chose and its my choice then. LOL.

By the way, does anyone know why my posts are lagging by 24 hours at least? Is there some rule I do not realize on this forum?

Dickhead
10-21-12, 16:28
Another possibility would be go back to San José but avoid the sharks at the Del Rey. You might like Sportsman's Lodge and you could have several women per day with your budget. I am not a big fan of dominicanas (okay, I would rather take a shit and fall backwards than be with another one) and they are all over the place these days. Another idea would be Curacao and Campo Alegre. Finally, on that type of a budget you could have a very good time in Buenos Aires, although there are some nuisance type issues there right now with currency controls and so forth.

I, too, quit messing around when I was married. You would think it would help but it does not.

SlamCity7777
10-21-12, 18:08
Another possibility would be go back to San José but avoid the sharks at the Del Rey. You might like Sportsman's Lodge and you could have several women per day with your budget. I am not a big fan of dominicanas (okay, I would rather take a shit and fall backwards than be with another one) and they are all over the place these days. Another idea would be Curacao and Campo Alegre. Finally, on that type of a budget you could have a very good time in Buenos Aires, although there are some nuisance type issues there right now with currency controls and so forth.

I, too, quit messing around when I was married. You would think it would help but it does not.Ay dios mio! Argentina was AMAZING for me! Good call dickhead. Hahhah strange to write that.

I've broke it down before but I'll do the 10cent version. More options in Argentina IMO, Privates (I think they're called. 3-6 girls in an apartment) , independent girls in studio apts, TONS of incall services (buyer beware) , Night Clubs and Free lancer bars. Also Street Walkers but why do that other than if you like the "rush" of street action.

WAY BETTER food and wine! Colombia does every type of food poorly! Argentina has some of the best steaks ANYWHERE in the world and is hands down the better option for food.

Way better culture, more stuff to see and do IMO. Colombia has the mall and that's it. You often here form Gringos that live down there that they are board.

Also the girls in Argentina have more "Euro" blood in their mix so they are more light skinned. Think like a hot Italian or Mideastern skinned chick / olive skinned chick vs a dark skinned Dominicana which is the dark end of the Colombian scale.

Also getting around with 0% to little Spanish is MUCH easier in Argentina.

NOTE: Regular girls in Argentina are much more snobby than in Colombia. Hard to beilive I know! It's not the DR where chicks what to talk to you so you can take them out.

Argenina is Awesome! So is Colombia but Arg has much more to offer. I also think the dollar offers more bang for you buck in Arg vs Col ($4. 7 Arg Pesos, Was $3/$1USD when I went vs $1. 7. $1 USD) so I think your money will go further in Arg. Also "Servicio Completo" in Argentina is Anal for $10-$15 exta! Hahaha that is unheard of in Colo.

Combo
10-22-12, 01:55
Really? No I am not being sarcastic. So Rio / Brazil has my type / preference of women? It seemed to me that they were more european looking at times, and I had not read to much to point to a GFE setup. It seemed more of a Terma (MP?) kind of a place since HELP closed. To top it off my Portuguese is worse then my spanish. On the other hand I could roll in Israel or arab countries (Yeah not going to happen) with no language problems.

Now mind you when I say GFE, I do not mean non paying, I am referring to what some guys find and pay for, which is a roll in the bed but a also a good time outside the bed, or in the bed after the roll. LOL. I completely understand going back into the hobby that in the end it is about the money. But it is nice to almost forget for a few minutes when there, no? LOL (as long as I don't loose full perspective)

As far as the budget, I have several friends that roll much higher, they have their respective taste which is more on the finding the "upper class" GFE escorts. What ever that means. I tend to find their "upper class" nenas to simply be snobs, but that is my take on the trips. Thats for another story at another time.

Thanks so far guys for your helpAre you serious? Rio is loaded with Mulattas and Morenas. Brazil, as a whole, has a very substantial amount of African descent in its mix (certainly more than Colombia). Though you

do have unmatched ethnic diversity there also (You'll even fine a few Asian garotas). Rio, Medellin, and DR are all good options. I wouldn't do Curacao unless you're a diving enthusiast.
And Cuba is a pain to get to. Buenos Aires, since you like darker women, probably wouldn't be ideal either.

Combo
10-22-12, 02:05
Fish.

I also should add that you should be very careful about carrying large amounts of money around in any of these locations. In fact, I wouldn't

even let any chica (or fellow monger) know that you have that kind of budget. Don't let yourself become a target.

Dickhead
10-22-12, 03:51
I also think the dollar offers more bang for you buck in Arg vs Col ($4. 7 Arg Pesos, Was $3/$1USD when I went vs $1. 7. $1 USD) so I think your money will go further in Arg.The street rate is 6, 2 ARS per cash USD right now. But the inflation is unbelievable. Mostly gals born and raised in BA are snobby and the rest are not. But you can go to the Argentina Private site and read all about that.

Fish Pargo
10-22-12, 04:35
Fish.

I also should add that you should be very careful about carrying large amounts of money around in any of these locations. In fact, I wouldn't.

Even let any chica (or fellow monger) know that you have that kind of budget. Don't let yourself become a target.Jajaja, true words. Financially life has gotten even better, which I thank God for in this economy. However even back when I was mongering I never let on what had or what I was willing to pay. No, you are very correct, and thanks for the reminder.

I will also add Rio to the list of places I am researching for my start. Likely I will just end up doing a "tour of recovery" and I think Thailand will have to be a must but last. I may have a coronary by the end. LOL.

I tell you it is frustrating. I would like to hook up at some point with some normal mongers from this forum on my trips. One of my friends who gives me current advice has a "steady" in central america. He sends her nearly $1000 USD a month and about $500 each night when he is there visiting her. I could roll like that, but why the hell would I want to? If I can do 3-4 nenas for that price, or at least half that price for 1 GFE / TLN. You get my point, I can't take their advice on this matter, and why in God's name would I want to end up sending some nena who is more then likely laughing at me and screwing other clients on the way to Western Union to pick up her $1K. On a note, these guys are my solid friends here at home. Don't take it wrong, they just well look at money differently and have even more then me, so to each his own I guess. He has a blast with her I know that.

Ok so Rio is added, ugh now in need to buy Rosetta stone Portugese, I just bought Rosetta Stone Thai jajajaja.

Ricker
10-22-12, 06:52
Thanks for the input.

Yeah not divorced yet, just separated. But it is over. Sad? Yes, but I figure maybe not rush off right away. I don't want to be too emotionally vulnerable and fall into a nena trap. I have read many horror reports, I don't want to be one. I will try the Medellin mansion I am sure. Do they have costena there? Or are they all light skinned? Don't get me wrong, I like them all, but if I get to chose and its my choice then. LOL.

By the way, does anyone know why my posts are lagging by 24 hours at least? Is there some rule I do not realize on this forum?Hey amigo, Truthfully I travel all the time, all over South America.

For me, as far as pure beauty, GFE, playing with regular girls (spanish required) , from light skin to dark skin, Medellin is numero uno for your vacation.

The Mansion just happens to cater to someone, who wants to show up and be able to pick and choose from a large array of girls, again from light to dark.

You pay a premium there, like $75 or so for a session with a girl. If you have good chemestry with a girl, she'll stay with you for a while, good GFE.

Of course while staying there, you can always branch out to other fun venues Medellin has to offer.

I love Brazil too. I practically live in Sao Paulo. Again girls of all shapes and sizes and colors to be had.

It's a longer flight to get to and can be more expensive, especially if you don't know what you're doing.

I like Sao Paulo better than Rio because the place is not over run by tourists and the girls aren't gringo spoiled in SP.

I know and hang in places in SP where I'm pretty sure I'm the only gringo ever seen there.

Buenos Aires. I dig the city, lots of sex venues, lots of great food, restarantes, etc.

I just find the BA girls much more cold than both the Colombianas and the Brasileiras.

Like DH said, the best girls in BA are not the natives, I particularly like the girls from Paraguay. They're more like the loving Colombianitas.

To live, maybe Argentina, except like someone posted, the regular girls are nowhere near as friendly as Colombianas or Brasileiras.

To travel to and just have fun with girls and get your mojo back, I'd choose Medellin Colombia, Cartagena Colombia if you have the cash, and if not Colombia, then Brazil or the DR, then for me probably Central America, like Guatemala where there are some real sweetys, especially the girls from Hondorous, then Argentina.

To meet the traveling Colombian working girls, I'd recommend St Martin, Dutch side. See the ISG forum for more info.

Fun girls, fun Island. I like it better than Curacao myself.

Good luck, you'll have fun.

BlancoVikingo
10-24-12, 01:37
Ricker is right.

I have lived in BA 1 year, with tips to montevideo, the Interior of Argentina, Rio, Bogota. Then I stay in Peru 6 months and finally 2010, 6 months in Colombia, the major part in Medellin, but I also lived in Cali, Periera and Cartagena.

Portenas (portenos = BA person) are cold and the difference to Rio girls is striking. BA is simply dead, people convinced that BA is the center of the world and the girls think very highly of themselves, but they are not hot at all in general. Provoces depression living there. I must add though, that miralces happens when you come outisde BA. I met a supersweet girl and her friends in Santiago del Estero, totally different than in BA.

BA is however a cultural metroplo and there are always events and nice food and interesting people.

Colombia is like coming to another planet. Girls are not just hot, of every color, they are so friendly that this combination makes Colombia a true Paradise. 100% serious. Waitresses giving me their phonenumers etc without asking, hot prepagos that wants to be your girlfriend etc, things that only can happen in Paradise Colombia, especially Medellin.

Ravigoel2004
10-25-12, 17:58
All,

I tried searching for this info, but I could not find it. So hopefully, you can help me.

Coming to Bogata for the first time in end of November / early December for work. Wanted to find out what a reasonable price would be to pay for a cutie. I know the answer is it depends, but would like a range if possible.

Fish Pargo
10-30-12, 04:39
All,

I tried searching for this info, but I could not find it. So hopefully, you can help me.

Coming to Bogata for the first time in end of November / early December for work. Wanted to find out what a reasonable price would be to pay for a cutie. I know the answer is it depends, but would like a range if possible.Welcome to the board Ravigoel.

Yes you are right it does depend. I have not mongered much lately, but some of my friends have often in the last years. I have some details from them. But take it with a grain of salt.

First, how is your spanish? The better your spanish the lower the price, seriously, its not a gringo thing, its a communication thing from what I can tell, and a negotiation talent. Second, are you more into ST or TLN? From what I can tell you can ST for under $100 easily and between $100. $200 for TLN. This will depend on the her hotness LOL and your negotiation ability. Veteran mongers can correct me please if I am mistaken.

Also the threads in the Bogota section and reports of distinction have some great info on specific places.

Again welcome to the board and enjoy. Update us on your trip when done.

SlamCity7777
10-30-12, 13:48
Hey Guys,

Let me ask a "stupid" question about Romance Latina, Colombian Cupid, ect ect ect.

What girls are P4P and which are normal (or as normal as you get in Colombia) girls? How can you tell? If a girl is a Pro what is the best way to approach them with out sounding like a perverted gringo. I know we're all perverted gringos but the girl doesn't need to know that!

Is any one better than the next? Good ice breaker? Would "Hey you a working girl and how much for how long" be too harsh? LOL!

I'm not a dating site guy foreign or domestic. It's just that I need to replenish my "amiguitas" on my last trip down several of them have become gordas and that does not fly in my book.

Thanks for any and all advice

Bango Cheito
10-31-12, 02:49
Hey Guys,

Let me ask a "stupid" question about Romance Latina, Colombian Cupid, ect ect ect.

What girls are P4P and which are normal (or as normal as you get in Colombia) girls? How can you tell? If a girl is a Pro what is the best way to approach them with out sounding like a perverted gringo. I know we're all perverted gringos but the girl doesn't need to know that!

Is any one better than the next? Good ice breaker? Would "Hey you a working girl and how much for how long" be too harsh? LOL!

I'm not a dating site guy foreign or domestic. It's just that I need to replenish my "amiguitas" on my last trip down several of them have become gordas and that does not fly in my book.

Thanks for any and all adviceI'd say at least 90% of those women are pros or prepagos.

BlancoVikingo
10-31-12, 14:33
33% prepagos

33% in need of money

33% serious

1% Princesses.

I just got kicked out by a hot MILF 28 from Bello, since I told her about my contacts on Cupid, even if we just had had contact in a few days. Yes, there are serious babes on Cupid.


Hey Guys,

Let me ask a "stupid" question about Romance Latina, Colombian Cupid, ect ect ect.

What girls are P4P and which are normal (or as normal as you get in Colombia) girls? How can you tell? If a girl is a Pro what is the best way to approach them with out sounding like a perverted gringo. I know we're all perverted gringos but the girl doesn't need to know that!

Is any one better than the next? Good ice breaker? Would "Hey you a working girl and how much for how long" be too harsh? LOL!

I'm not a dating site guy foreign or domestic. It's just that I need to replenish my "amiguitas" on my last trip down several of them have become gordas and that does not fly in my book.

Thanks for any and all advice

SlamCity7777
10-31-12, 16:22
33% prepagos

33% in need of money

33% serious

1% Princesses.

I just got kicked out by a hot MILF 28 from Bello, since I told her about my contacts on Cupid, even if we just had had contact in a few days. Yes, there are serious babes on Cupid.Hmmm; interesting. Cupid Romance is a sight or is it a mash up of Romance Latina and Colombia Cupid / South American Cupid? Any site better? A ripoff? Ect?

My question is how do you sort out who is a Pro and who is a Reg? I'd hate to offend a Reg by asking her " Very Nice! How much?" Like Borat!

Fish Pargo
11-01-12, 02:33
33% prepagos

33% in need of money

33% serious

1% Princesses.

I just got kicked out by a hot MILF 28 from Bello, since I told her about my contacts on Cupid, even if we just had had contact in a few days. Yes, there are serious babes on Cupid.So I have to ask, why would you tell a woman (especially a hot MILF that sounds like she might not be a pro) about other women / contacts?

Sorry if I am being inappropriate, just trying to get to know the guys on the forum and not just be a lurker. LOL

BlancoVikingo
11-01-12, 17:30
So I have to ask, why would you tell a woman (especially a hot MILF that sounds like she might not be a pro) about other women / contacts?

Sorry if I am being inappropriate, just trying to get to know the guys on the forum and not just be a lurker. LOLI wanted to be honest.

Well, it turned out well, Gracias a Dios! I was really lucky. Andrea is 29 and has two kids 8/11 why-o. She works out everyday and sends me photos of her in the gym! HOT! She now does casting for a Paisa company as underwear model. I feel happy!

As Frank C used to say "Paradise Medellin".

Fish Pargo
11-03-12, 04:49
I wanted to be honest.

Well, it turned out well, Gracias a Dios! I was really lucky. Andrea is 29 and has two kids 8/11 why-o. She works out everyday and sends me photos of her in the gym! HOT! She now does casting for a Paisa company as underwear model. I feel happy!

As Frank C used to say "Paradise Medellin".I stand corrected. Go figure. Well done.

Amb832
11-07-12, 11:27
I'm trying to get better at Spanish. I been reading and using some Spanish learning CD's for the past 4 months and my Spanish is still basic. I been thinking about getting a Rosetta Stone, but the price seems kinda crazy. Just wondering if it's really that good and worth it?

SlamCity7777
11-07-12, 14:21
I'm trying to get better at Spanish. I been reading and using some Spanish learning CD's for the past 4 months and my Spanish is still basic. I been thinking about getting a Rosetta Stone, but the price seems kinda crazy. Just wondering if it's really that good and worth it?Get a Torrent App and google Torrent Spanish Learn or what ever key words you want to use. Once you have it DO NOT SHARE it if you are concerned with the "legal" ramifications.

Or local classes at the adult ed learning anex or local community college, gets you out of the house and speaking to actual people.

Or take your basic spanish skills to the local barrio eatery and chat up a few people. The best way to learn a language is to use it! Books, classes, and at home classes can only prep you for the real world. You know I can watch a you tube video on how to swim all I want but jumping in the pool is the best teacher there is.

Chesscat
11-07-12, 14:54
Music is great for language learning. Try Canta en Espanol by Eydie Gormet.


I'm trying to get better at Spanish. I been reading and using some Spanish learning CD's for the past 4 months and my Spanish is still basic. I been thinking about getting a Rosetta Stone, but the price seems kinda crazy. Just wondering if it's really that good and worth it?

TweedleD
11-07-12, 21:29
Hmmm; interesting. Cupid Romance is a sight or is it a mash up of Romance Latina and Colombia Cupid / South American Cupid? Any site better? A ripoff? Ect?

My question is how do you sort out who is a Pro and who is a Reg? I'd hate to offend a Reg by asking her " Very Nice! How much?" Like Borat!At some level or another, they are all working girls!

BlancoVikingo
11-11-12, 22:04
Hmmm; interesting. Cupid Romance is a sight or is it a mash up of Romance Latina and Colombia Cupid / South American Cupid? Any site better? A ripoff? Ect?

My question is how do you sort out who is a Pro and who is a Reg? I'd hate to offend a Reg by asking her " Very Nice! How much?" Like Borat!Pros can be the easy type, but there also those who put on dramas, and they can plan an attack until they feel you are trapped and have to pay some sort of "moral" ransom to get out, only Mr. Nice Guy pays, but it's such a waste of time and Good Energy.

The problem is that many choose after how the situation / relationship evolves: If they feel you will be 2 generous they will go after your money first, your heart second.

But there always a surplus of good looking paisas.

I had contact with "serious" a girl on Cupid for one month. Then I was drunk / horney one night and wrote about internet modelling and how great it would be to fuck her Online. I deleted the message and we kept talking on MSN, then she suddenly asked me about Online modelling. I asked if she was angry explained that that I had been drunk etc. Then she (!) told me she wanted to sell her friends to "extranjeros" in Medellin. And that maybe I could fuck her Online! Wow!

Medellin Paradise. Medellin Paradise.

Artisttyp
11-20-12, 04:11
Has anyone bused it from Cali to Quito and how did it work out for you? I am looking for a border town called ipiales (spelled wrong) on the map but cannot find it. Apparently this is a border city easily reached from Cali or Bogota. Anyone heard of it?

What I would like to do is end up in Quito after gradually increasing in altitude.

Cali Ipiales Ibarra Otavalo Quito.

Any reason to stop in San Lorenzo Ecuador? It looks like a dingy coastal community.

Thanks for the help.

UPDATE :

Now I see that ipiales is also at a very high altitude. I want to go from Cali to Ibarra,Ecuador without hitting elevations above 7k. Any ideas ?

Questner
11-20-12, 05:01
Has anyone bused it from Cali to Quito and how did it work out for you? I am looking for a border town called ipiales (spelled wrong) on the map but cannot find it. Apparently this is a border city easily reached from Cali or Bogota. Anyone heard of it?

What I would like to do is end up in Quito after gradually increasing in altitude.

Cali Ipiales Ibarra Otavalo Quito.

Any reason to stop in San Lorenzo Ecuador? It looks like a dingy coastal community.

Thanks for the help.

UPDATE :

Now I see that ipiales is also at a very high altitude. I want to go from Cali to Ibarra, Ecuador without hitting elevations above 7k. Any ideas?Take a flight. You will absolutely go over 7k in Ibarra. Also mind the following:

Regional Advisory for the areas immediately bordering Colombia.

Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada advises against all travel to the areas immediately bordering Colombia due to the presence of drug traffickers and criminal organizations. This includes the provinces of Carchi and Sucumbíos—except the city of Tulcáand—and the town of San Lorenzo, located in the north of the province of Esmeraldas. Consult the Security tab for more information.

Vitrea
11-20-12, 09:29
I'm trying to get better at Spanish. I been reading and using some Spanish learning CD's for the past 4 months and my Spanish is still basic. I been thinking about getting a Rosetta Stone, but the price seems kinda crazy. Just wondering if it's really that good and worth it?I found Rosetta stone to be worthless (for me). It is video based and it is NOT the way I like to learn a language. I personally feel it is marketing and hype. I found Pimsleur language audio guides to be very useful and worth every penny and it is a lot less expensive.

Mr Enternational
11-20-12, 11:51
I found Rosetta stone to be worthless (for me). It is video based and it is NOT the way I like to learn a language. I personally feel it is marketing and hype. I found Pimsleur language audio guides to be very useful and worth every penny and it is a lot less expensive.There are all types of learners but in my professional and personal opinion you are spot on. Rosetta Stone absolutely sux. They show you 4 pictures then say a phrase in the target language. Then you have to take a stab at which picture the phrase is talking about.

In addition to Pimsleur I suggest going on amazon and purchasing a first year high school or university text book. 501 verbs, and a big English-Spanish dictionary as well.

SlamCity7777
11-20-12, 12:23
there are all types of learners but in my professional and personal opinion you are spot on. rosetta stone absolutely sux. they show you 4 pictures then say a phrase in the target language. then you have to take a stab at which picture the phrase is talking about.

in addition to pimsleur i suggest going on amazon and purchasing a first year high school or university text book. 501 verbs, and a big english-spanish dictionary as well.when comes to learning i prefer the og basics, book, pen, note pad, real professor, and classmates. i'm just not disciplined enough to do it on my own. so any of the vids, cds, short cuts are not for me. learn by doing and earning the ability. the real way. i know time is an issue as we get older seems time gets shorter and responsibilities get longer. 4.

any sort of audio language tapes could help if you drive a bunch, there is a funny commercial running about two guys who learn spanish during a road trip. this will help get you accustomed to hearing the words and then having them registrar in your brain. music in general is cool but they use the subjunctive a lot imo so hard to understand.

my bestest tip would be old movies. it can be any movie that you've seen in english and then watch it on telemundo (ect). i find it helpful because i know what's going on, what they said at this part in english and now what they're doing and saying in spanish.

it really is the listening part and being able to pick up the words as they're being said. for speech, when you can think to yourself in spanish your flow will be much better.

i have a minor in spanish. best 30 credit hours ever! (might have been less credit hours but the student loan bill says different!)

Artisttyp
11-20-12, 14:39
Take a flight. You will absolutely go over 7k in Ibarra. Also mind the following:

Regional Advisory for the areas immediately bordering Colombia.

Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada advises against all travel to the areas immediately bordering Colombia due to the presence of drug traffickers and criminal organizations. This includes the provinces of Carchi and Sucumbíos—except the city of Tulcáand—and the town of San Lorenzo, located in the north of the province of Esmeraldas. Consult the Security tab for more information.Good Advice. Thank you for your input.

Bango Cheito
11-21-12, 06:07
I'm going to be in Cali in Dec and was considering going to Pasto and beyond by land, but I probably won't do it. Passing thru Cauca is NOT a good plan overland these days.

Vitrea
11-22-12, 11:14
Since we are on the topic of overland travel; Any of you drove from MDE to Cali? How are the roads? I will be doing that on a Motorcycle and will only be riding during daylight hours. Also, I promised myself I will limit city driving to the minimum. Any good or bad stuff to watch out for? Please share as I know that some of you have unique perspectives and experiences I can't get with Google.

Questner
11-23-12, 04:42
Since we are on the topic of overland travel; Any of you drove from MDE to Cali? How are the roads? I will be doing that on a Motorcycle and will only be riding during daylight hours. Also, I promised myself I will limit city driving to the minimum. Any good or bad stuff to watch out for? Please share as I know that some of you have unique perspectives and experiences I can't get with Google.No experience here, but likely take a first leg to the city of Armenia. Buy a local auto guide, it advises on tolls, gas stations, elevations, temperature, signage and other dangers. Get in touch with a local motorcycle club.

Legal Tender
11-23-12, 06:15
Since we are on the topic of overland travel; Any of you drove from MDE to Cali? How are the roads? I will be doing that on a Motorcycle and will only be riding during daylight hours. Also, I promised myself I will limit city driving to the minimum. Any good or bad stuff to watch out for? Please share as I know that some of you have unique perspectives and experiences I can't get with Google.A couple of years ago I drove from Medellin to Armenia. I wouldn't do it again. The route is very poorly marked, it's through winding mountain roads with 18 wheelers going with wild abandon. Passing on curves seems like an acceptable risk to most of them. I saw three serious wrecks and was involved in a fender bender myself. Some dude with an old van full of children rear ended me. Quite an experience, but I don't recommend it.

Vitrea
11-23-12, 08:45
No experience here, but likely take a first leg to the city of Armenia. Buy a local auto guide, it advises on tolls, gas stations, elevations, temperature, signage and other dangers. Get in touch with a local motorcycle club.Thank you both. Will do.

Using the search function, there is not much about Armenia. Any mongering pointers? Clubs, Casas etc.

Bango Cheito
11-24-12, 07:26
Since we are on the topic of overland travel; Any of you drove from MDE to Cali? How are the roads? I will be doing that on a Motorcycle and will only be riding during daylight hours. Also, I promised myself I will limit city driving to the minimum. Any good or bad stuff to watch out for? Please share as I know that some of you have unique perspectives and experiences I can't get with Google.I just got a motorcycle and I'm still a week away from them giving me my motorcycle licence here, I've been from Armenia to MDE before, but my trip to Cali will be by bike, and I may go all the way up to MDE too. The only thing is La Linea from Bogota, and when you get to Antioquia it gets REALLY mountainous again.

Nibu Raphael
11-27-12, 06:52
YEH Not staight from Cali but I did lot of stops, Look in the Nibu section I posted all the info there Pal.


Has anyone bused it from Cali to Quito and how did it work out for you? I am looking for a border town called ipiales (spelled wrong) on the map but cannot find it. Apparently this is a border city easily reached from Cali or Bogota. Anyone heard of it?

What I would like to do is end up in Quito after gradually increasing in altitude.

Cali Ipiales Ibarra Otavalo Quito.

Any reason to stop in San Lorenzo Ecuador? It looks like a dingy coastal community.

Thanks for the help.

UPDATE :

Now I see that ipiales is also at a very high altitude. I want to go from Cali to Ibarra, Ecuador without hitting elevations above 7k. Any ideas?

Hillbilly69
11-28-12, 21:51
As of November 26, flights between Colombia and the USA are no longer to be limited in terms of routes and frequency of flights, local media reported Tuesday.

The proposal gained the approval from Congress on Monday night meaning American commercial airlines can fly to and from the USA from any city in Colombia, a practice previously prohibited by an agreement signed in 1956. USA airlines will now be able to fly to any airport in the country instead of just the principle cities of Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Cali and Barranquilla.

"There is no limit on the number of frequencies and the route schedule, airlines can choose any city. It is an agreement that allows freedom to go from Bogota to New York then Europe, ' said the director of Aerocivil, the state regulator of civil aviation in Colombia.

The new agreement also means that the frequency of flights and cargo between the two nations is also no longer limited and will gradually increase in 2013 with the hopes of increasing Colombian exports and tourism.

The problem of immigration was raised as some Colombian airports do not have suitable infrastructure to deal with USA citizens coming in to the country so, to combat this issue, airports with immigration systems will be automatically intergrated into flight plans USA flight plans, daily business newspaper Portafolio reported.

Artisttyp
11-29-12, 03:10
Have any of you guys entered Colombia on a one way airline ticket and what if anything happened?

I'd like to enter MDE on a one way and eventually fly back from Lima. Who the hell needs to deal with coming up with exact dates and cancellation policies. I'd like to buy my tickets as needed.

The REP from Copa Air said "YES" but at my own risk. I mentioned that I would have a print out of a bus ticket reservation from Cali to Quito. He still said at my own risk.

Another question I had is what have your experiences been purchasing tickets while abroad? Can you purchase them online through the english version of the airline website or will it not accept your credit card? I've heard stories of inflated fares due to using an american credit card in SA or being unable to use them for ticket purchases.

I am a total newbie with flying within SA. Please help. Better to buy here in the USA and deal with change fees etc or go the one way route?

BlancoVikingo
11-29-12, 04:01
Fellow Mongers.

I must make this statement since I'm entering a serious relationship with a Colombiana.

I'm an average Blaha-man 43 why-o. I find novias and putas of very high class. It seems that Colombianas are so hot that it is almost unreal, but it is real. Panamas females are short, thick and boring, Venezolanas, even hotter than Colombainas, but with their country on brink of collapse so please don't go, Peruanas are generally 44% as hot, and a bit boring compared to their Colombian sisters.

Colombianas makes your dreams comes true. This is not Thailand. This is someting so much better that few will belive you, back at home telling your stories about being seduced by hot Colombiana.

I advice you, lonely man, wealthy man, horney man, go to Colombia and enjoy life. Enjoy the happy people, you will make friends for life and get laid with babes, if you just can reduce your US / Western sceptical mind, just a little bit.

Lovesick or Superhorney: Go to Colombia, another forum is a great help. You can not aviod turisttraps entirely, but minimize losses. Read through posts here and you will find valuable info. , for budget man, rich short-term man, backpacker man, retired or student.

Open you mind, let yourself be seduced and Paradise will open up.

I have done it and I'm an average Anglosaxon man. Spanish skills are important, but much more important is serious interest in learing the lingo and about the country, Colombianas notice this and you will be rewarded.

I have come across to the other side and that means entering Paradise.

It took years for me to grasp that I had found Paradise, and it can never be understood by your fellow Anglosaxons at home. This is not Thailand or Phillipines. Colombia is full of Babes Of Every Color. Colombia is decent. You will be attacked by these females themselves and you will think this is not real, but it is.

Fellow Mongers. Stop wasting your money on porno, overprices hookers, ugly girlfriends or, even worse, ugly wifes, with economical or materialistic demands that makes your life a Non-Life.

These behavoiurs costs much more than Colombianas for any kind; by the hour, day or week, or as a girlfriend or wife. If American, you can travel frequently to Colombia and sustain a relationship that way, and, if coming from Minnesota, escaping a horrible climate in exchange for a Superb one.

Just My 2 Cents

John Gault
11-29-12, 04:48
Have any of you guys entered Colombia on a one way airline ticket and what if anything happened?

I'd like to enter MDE on a one way and eventually fly back from Lima. Who the hell needs to deal with coming up with exact dates and cancellation policies. I'd like to buy my tickets as needed.

The REP from Copa Air said "YES" but at my own risk. I mentioned that I would have a print out of a bus ticket reservation from Cali to Quito. He still said at my own risk.

Another question I had is what have your experiences been purchasing tickets while abroad? Can you purchase them online through the english version of the airline website or will it not accept your credit card? I've heard stories of inflated fares due to using an american credit card in SA or being unable to use them for ticket purchases.

I am a total newbie with flying within SA. Please help. Better to buy here in the USA and deal with change fees etc or go the one way route?A while back instead of buying a RT ticket I bought two seperate tickets each way to, and from Colombia. Before I could get my boarding pass to leave the USA I had to show my return ticket.

I have bought tickets online to the USA while in Colombia, and Peru with my American credit card paying in dollars with no problem. As far as in country travel I just go to an Avianca office, and pay in pesos. The fares were not bad, and I really like to use Avianca.

I agree this is a real pain in the ass in having to cement your return plans in advance. Two of my last three trips to MGA I changed my return date, and took a beating. This is just another scam by the government, and airlines to rip you off. The airline gets the cancelation fees, and Big Brother gets to keep the fees they charge on the old ticket if you get a whole new ticket as sometimes it pays to do that.

Artisttyp
11-29-12, 04:56
A while back instead of buying a RT ticket I bought two seperate tickets each way to, and from Colombia. Before I could get my boarding pass to leave the USA I had to show my return ticket.

I have bought tickets online to the USA while in Colombia, and Peru with my American credit card paying in dollars with no problem. As far as in country travel I just go to an Avianca office, and pay in pesos. The fares were not bad, and I really like to use Avianca.

I agree this is a real pain in the ass in having to cement your return plans in advance. Two of my last three trips to MGA I changed my return date, and took a beating. This is just another scam by the government, and airlines to rip you off. The airline gets the cancelation fees, and Big Brother gets to keep the fees they charge on the old ticket if you get a whole new ticket as sometimes it pays to do that.Mr. G,

Thank you for your response. I found it quite helpful.

Ricker
11-29-12, 06:49
Fellow Mongers.

I must make this statement since I'm entering a serious relationship with a Colombiana.

I'm an average Blaha-man 43 why-o. I find novias and putas of very high class. It seems that Colombianas are so hot that it is almost unreal, but it is real. Panamas females are short, thick and boring, Venezolanas, even hotter than Colombainas, but with their country on brink of collapse so please don't go, Peruanas are generally 44% as hot, and a bit boring compared to their Colombian sisters.

Colombianas makes your dreams comes true. This is not Thailand. This is someting so much better that few will belive you, back at home telling your stories about being seduced by hot Colombiana.

I advice you, lonely man, wealthy man, horney man, go to Colombia and enjoy life. Enjoy the happy people, you will make friends for life and get laid with babes, if you just can reduce your US / Western sceptical mind, just a little bit.

Lovesick or Superhorney: Go to Colombia, another forum is a great help. You can not aviod turisttraps entirely, but minimize losses. Read through posts here and you will find valuable info. , for budget man, rich short-term man, backpacker man, retired or student.

Open you mind, let yourself be seduced and Paradise will open up.

I have done it and I'm an average Anglosaxon man. Spanish skills are important, but much more important is serious interest in learing the lingo and about the country, Colombianas notice this and you will be rewarded.

I have come across to the other side and that means entering Paradise.

It took years for me to grasp that I had found Paradise, and it can never be understood by your fellow Anglosaxons at home. This is not Thailand or Phillipines. Colombia is full of Babes Of Every Color. Colombia is decent. You will be attacked by these females themselves and you will think this is not real, but it is.

Fellow Mongers. Stop wasting your money on porno, overprices hookers, ugly girlfriends or, even worse, ugly wifes, with economical or materialistic demands that makes your life a Non-Life.

These behavoiurs costs much more than Colombianas for any kind; by the hour, day or week, or as a girlfriend or wife. If American, you can travel frequently to Colombia and sustain a relationship that way, and, if coming from Minnesota, escaping a horrible climate in exchange for a Superb one.

Just My 2 CentsYou said it brother!

Colombia, Venezuela (man was it good before the collapse) , and don't forget about Brazil.

All make life worth living.

Kukulkan
11-29-12, 10:13
Have any of you guys entered Colombia on a one way airline ticket and what if anything happened?

I'd like to enter MDE on a one way and eventually fly back from Lima. Who the hell needs to deal with coming up with exact dates and cancellation policies. I'd like to buy my tickets as needed.

The REP from Copa Air said "YES" but at my own risk. I mentioned that I would have a print out of a bus ticket reservation from Cali to Quito. He still said at my own risk.

Another question I had is what have your experiences been purchasing tickets while abroad? Can you purchase them online through the english version of the airline website or will it not accept your credit card? I've heard stories of inflated fares due to using an american credit card in SA or being unable to use them for ticket purchases.

I am a total newbie with flying within SA. Please help. Better to buy here in the USA and deal with change fees etc or go the one way route?Always do a search on kayak. Com as long you have a us credit / debit card. It will work.

My two pesos.

Kukulkan.

Vitrea
11-29-12, 23:18
Have any of you guys entered Colombia on a one way airline ticket and what if anything happened?

I'd like to enter MDE on a one way and eventually fly back from Lima. Who the hell needs to deal with coming up with exact dates and cancellation policies. I'd like to buy my tickets as needed.

The REP from Copa Air said "YES" but at my own risk. I mentioned that I would have a print out of a bus ticket reservation from Cali to Quito. He still said at my own risk.

Another question I had is what have your experiences been purchasing tickets while abroad? Can you purchase them online through the english version of the airline website or will it not accept your credit card? I've heard stories of inflated fares due to using an american credit card in SA or being unable to use them for ticket purchases.

I am a total newbie with flying within SA. Please help. Better to buy here in the USA and deal with change fees etc or go the one way route?Hola,

Purchasing tickets in Colombia is no problem.

You can buy two roundtrip tickets (as John suggested) but if one way is really your goal, then buy the return ticket as a full-fare refundable ticket, print it and cancel it after you land.

Hillbilly69
11-30-12, 20:23
Monger Spanish.

Any you guys need download for your ipod, I just figured out how to email the mp3 so if you want to learn Spanish for puta related stuff send me your email by pm.

Vitrea
12-07-12, 18:31
I want to post some comments in the general section. What little specifics I have, I will post in other cities.

I did do my roadtrip from MDE to Manizales, to Pereira, Armenia, Buga and Cali on a Motorcycle, BMW 800 GS. The bikes from Motolombia were fantastic. The roads are awesome, the sceneray is spectacular, people are very friendly and most importantly, I NEVER felt unsafe. I think driving on your own in Mexico and some central american countries is way more riskier than in Colombia.

Mongering wise, it was a total bust (for my tastes). Can't wait to get back to MDE

Vitrea
12-15-12, 20:53
That I know of.

Http://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/preise-erotik-club.html.

$300 US / 30 minutes with one of these beauties.

I posted this here since we were discussing prices in MDE and CTG threads. Gives you a perspective and some appreciation of what you have in CO.

Vitrea
12-16-12, 07:28
Going to be visiting end of January 2013 and wanted to see the P4P, Casas, semi-pro, non pro chicas in 5 cities. Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla, Cartagena, and Cali. Any recommendations on which city I should spend the most time in mongoring? My standards are mostly in search of 7. 5+ from a 1-10. I find the female Colombian Golf player Maria Jose Uribe to be a 7 from a 1-10. And Pornstar Esperanza Gomez is a perfect 10. Money isn't an issue, I'm willing to pay $200 for Short Term as long as she's a 10.Based on small amount of info, we don't have similar taste (I don't like silicone so I would not do Esperanza Gomez) but I know what you are asking. I would say MJU has an 8 for face and 6 for body. :-)

My order, most days to least, would be the following and I have been to all of them.

MDE, CTG, BOG, Cali and Barranquilla.

BTW, Given the above criteria, I would be surprised if you could find a 10 P4P in Colombia. So, likely you will be saving some money. There are lot of 10s in MDE and BOG but they are high society chicas, generally not in the P4P circles. I saw 3 or 4 all natural 10s in the Tesoro mall in MDE. That is rare for any big city.

Optic Guard
12-18-12, 00:55
I have decided to move to Medellin, and what I am looking for is just info in living in and expats. There are a lot of boards but I am trying to get as much info as I can.

From what I hear a lot of people have said It can be cheap or expensive as you like. I do speak Spanish so that be good but is there any Xpats in Medellin that live here.

As will as just do a little mongering. If anyone just wants to chat or send emails I am looking for that kind of person. I will not re-post things I get and you want to skype

Let me know

Hioctane
12-18-12, 03:12
I have decided to move to Medellin, and what I am looking for is just info in living in and expats. There are a lot of boards but I am trying to get as much info as I can.

From what I hear a lot of people have said It can be cheap or expensive as you like. I do speak Spanish so that be good but is there any Xpats in Medellin that live here.

As will as just do a little mongering. If anyone just wants to chat or send emails I am looking for that kind of person. I will not re-post things I get and you want to skype

Let me knowWhy would you move to a city or a country you've never been to before? Why don't you go visit it for a week or a month first.

Chesscat
12-18-12, 03:23
blue devil on another forum lives in sabaneta. he would be able to give you some good advice. there is a bi-lingual woman, andrea of guidesbyandrea, who can help you find an apartment to live in. an obvious alternative to poblado and patio bonito is laureles, though i think it has lots of barrios which differ in strata level or what have you. there is an upscale hostel in poblado and the owner would be a good contact i expect.

https://sites.google.com/a/arcadiahostel.net/opcion1/

barry of poblado rentals is down there often, and can orient you. there is a living in medellin thread that has never really gotten going, with some info on cedulas. i think there is an under the radar expat community, it might take some time to find and meet them.

chesrep001

Vitrea
12-20-12, 04:40
Miss USA won the miss universe competition but I would have voted for miss Colombia. I think she is gorgeous, but I am biased.

http://www.missuniverse.com/members/profile/652634/year:2012

Artisttyp
12-21-12, 03:12
Sorry to bring up such a boring subject but hopefully my question will add a new twist to an already beaten horse.

" When you take the bus to Cali you need to cross the andes (right?). How high (altitude) do you need to cross in order to get to the flat road (pan am) that leads to Cali? From what I've read the first 4/5 hrs are windy one lane roads through the mountains. Then once you hit Periera you are back on flat land. Does the bus climb for 2 hrs up then 2 hrs downhill?

MDE is around 5k feet. Anything past 7k ft and I get uncomfortable."

When I did the buses in Mexico I brought a winter coat and scarf. It was very much needed. Same thing in Colombia? From what I've read food is hard to come by during the journey?

Thank you for the information.

PS. I forgot to ask if there are luggage restrictions on the buses ? What are you allowed to carry on ? I need to have a regular size cooler with me at my feet..problem?

Vitrea
12-21-12, 06:06
Sorry to bring up such a boring subject but hopefully my question will add a new twist to an already beaten horse.

" When you take the bus to Cali you need to cross the andes (right?). How high (altitude) do you need to cross in order to get to the flat road (pan am) that leads to Cali? From what I've read the first 4/5 hrs are windy one lane roads through the mountains. Then once you hit Periera you are back on flat land. Does the bus climb for 2 hrs up then 2 hrs downhill?

MDE is around 5k feet. Anything past 7k ft and I get uncomfortable."

When I did the buses in Mexico I brought a winter coat and scarf. It was very much needed. Same thing in Colombia? From what I've read food is hard to come by during the journey?

Thank you for the information.

PS. I forgot to ask if there are luggage restrictions on the buses? What are you allowed to carry on? I need to have a regular size cooler with me at my feet. Problem?Hi Artisttyp, I did the same route two weeks ago on a motorcycle. Yes, the road up to Pereira is VERY windy and it was a blast on a Moto but for me would have been a killer in a bus. I am sensitive and I get nauseated. The scenery is stunning and worth it if that is part of the reason why you are doing it. Of course interaction with locals and the food in small towns was also wonderful, which I am sure you will get to experience on a bus journey as well.

Temperature: it was never cold during the day. Long sleeve T or light jacket should be fine unless you are taking a night bus (which I hope not as that would take away all the positives of a bus trip and leave you with negatives of a 10 hour journey). Let me know if you have any more questions.

Artisttyp
12-21-12, 06:42
Hi Artisttyp, I did the same route two weeks ago on a motorcycle. Yes, the road up to Pereira is VERY windy and it was a blast on a Moto but for me would have been a killer in a bus. I am sensitive and I get nauseated. The scenery is stunning and worth it if that is part of the reason why you are doing it. Of course interaction with locals and the food in small towns was also wonderful, which I am sure you will get to experience on a bus journey as well.

Temperature: it was never cold during the day. Long sleeve T or light jacket should be fine unless you are taking a night bus (which I hope not as that would take away all the positives of a bus trip and leave you with negatives of a 10 hour journey). Let me know if you have any more questions.Thanks. I've done the ride of death a few times in other countries (Ecuador) and "yes" it does bite but the scenery and experience is priceless. I haven't given Colombia a chance in this regard so I need to seriously consider it. Also flying in Colombia is almost more of a pain in the ass. The security is out of control.

I assume there will be military check points or baggage inspections along the way?

Thanks again for the response.

Vitrea
12-21-12, 08:22
Thanks. I've done the ride of death a few times in other countries (Ecuador) and "yes" it does bite but the scenery and experience is priceless. I haven't given Colombia a chance in this regard so I need to seriously consider it. Also flying in Colombia is almost more of a pain in the ass. The security is out of control.

I assume there will be military check points or baggage inspections along the way?

Thanks again for the response.I flew inside Colombia (domestic) and never had any security issues and may be I was lucky. In fact, I had a very positive experience one. A while ago I forgot my brand new iphone at one of the screening points in BOG and only remembered about it after I landed in CTG. The staff tracked it down and made sure I got it in CTG, a day later. I cannot imagine that happening in most countries in the world. As you can tell, I love Colombia for many reasons including their airlines.

BTW, there would be a minimum of 5. 6 check points but we were only stopped twice on a moto. When they did, they were super friendly. Colombia is infinitely more friendly and I felt more safe there than in Mexico and you know I am a Mexico veteran (smile).

Amb832
12-21-12, 13:20
I searched on here for similar topic, but couldn't find any. I been reading and listening to CD for a few months now. My problem I'm having is I can read Spanish better than I can listen or speak face to face with another person. I would like to practice with a person on Skype because most classes I see are offering between $500-$800 for seven 1 hour sessions which I think is too expensive. Anyone knows a person that do lessons on Skype?

SlamCity7777
12-21-12, 14:27
I searched on here for similar topic, but couldn't find any. I been reading and listening to CD for a few months now. My problem I'm having is I can read Spanish better than I can listen or speak face to face with another person. I would like to practice with a person on Skype because most classes I see are offering between $500-$800 for seven 1 hour sessions which I think is too expensive. Anyone knows a person that do lessons on Skype?I think Lessons Skype will do for key words. Not too long ago there was a rolling convo about classes and somebody put up a few emails and what not for this chick / lady who does lessons via Skype for very reasonable rates. I'd guess in the Medellin topic as that one contains very few reports on fucking chicks anymore! LOL!

Sorry I can't be more specific; I took my lessons in college as a minor.

The info is already posted, just a matter of digging it out.

Brother P
12-21-12, 16:18
I searched on here for similar topic, but couldn't find any. I been reading and listening to CD for a few months now. My problem I'm having is I can read Spanish better than I can listen or speak face to face with another person. I would like to practice with a person on Skype because most classes I see are offering between $500-$800 for seven 1 hour sessions which I think is too expensive. Anyone knows a person that do lessons on Skype?Try nataliavelez@elearnspanishonline. She teaches via skype. I think 20 bucks an hour. Good luck!

Vitrea
12-22-12, 04:26
I searched on here for similar topic, but couldn't find any. I been reading and listening to CD for a few months now. My problem I'm having is I can read Spanish better than I can listen or speak face to face with another person. I would like to practice with a person on Skype because most classes I see are offering between $500-$800 for seven 1 hour sessions which I think is too expensive. Anyone knows a person that do lessons on Skype?Like Slam says, the info is already posted but my favorite is Pimsleur Spanish. Very inexpensive and there is a lot of focus on pronunciation and speaking out loud.

This last trip, my buddy and I we went to a bar with another american we just met in MDE. He said he is fluent in Spanish (and he is) but the girls told me that they have a hard time understanding him because of his accent and even though my spanish is limited they were able to follow what the fuck I am saying. Pronunciation makes a big difference

Vitrea
12-22-12, 04:29
I'd guess in the Medellin topic as that one contains very few reports on fucking chicks anymore! LOL!

That is so true. What is up with that? You read my mind and I am wondering the same.

BTW, if you look at the travel announcement section there were a lot of people announcing their visits to MDE but very few reports.

Chelo
12-22-12, 04:48
Newbie here. Did a quick search and didn't find an answer for this-

I have experience in the US (payment up front) and Uruguay and Argentina (I always paid post session) but what is expected in Colombia?

For a 1 hour session pay up front?

For say 12 hours I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Do you pay half up front and half at the end?

Thanks for your help!