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Orgasmico
03-19-20, 15:28
Newly announced measure will be enforced starting this weekend and will prevent Colombians and foreign nationals from entering the country for a period of 30 days.

https://www.lafm.com.co/colombia/duque-suspende-ingreso-de-viajeros-al-pais-durante-30-dias-incluidos-colombianos?fbclid=IwAR0gbKh5aseLezQoDiHGd7Ro3oTroJ-SSaqApNLQ_XIdhB9jauuAZ8UEmi8

Orgasmico
03-19-20, 18:13
State Dept. To Tell Americans Abroad – Come Home Or Prepare To Shelter In Place.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/19/coronavirus-travel-advisory-level-four-137227

Elvis 2008
03-19-20, 21:24
My gal squeaked out on this one. It turns out Colombians can travel as long as they are back by Sunday the 22nd. Apparently, someone supposed to be in quarantine ignored the restriction: https://www.lafm.com.co/colombia/duque-suspende-ingreso-de-viajeros-al-pais-durante-30-dias-incluidos-colombianos?fbclid=IwAR0gbKh5aseLezQoDiHGd7Ro3oTroJ-SSaqApNLQ_XIdhB9jauuAZ8UEmi8.

Customs scolded her for leaving the country in a time like this but let her through. Now if she can just get through Mexican customs.


Newly announced measure will be enforced starting this weekend and will prevent Colombians and foreign nationals from entering the country for a period of 30 days.

https://www.lafm.com.co/colombia/duque-suspende-ingreso-de-viajeros-al-pais-durante-30-dias-incluidos-colombianos?fbclid=IwAR0gbKh5aseLezQoDiHGd7Ro3oTroJ-SSaqApNLQ_XIdhB9jauuAZ8UEmi8

Orgasmico
03-19-20, 21:49
My gal squeaked out on this one. It turns out Colombians can travel as long as they are back by Sunday the 22nd. Apparently, someone supposed to be in quarantine ignored the restriction: https://www.lafm.com.co/colombia/duque-suspende-ingreso-de-viajeros-al-pais-durante-30-dias-incluidos-colombianos?fbclid=IwAR0gbKh5aseLezQoDiHGd7Ro3oTroJ-SSaqApNLQ_XIdhB9jauuAZ8UEmi8.

Customs scolded her for leaving the country in a time like this but let her through. Now if she can just get through Mexican customs.Yeah, it's crazy. I got a flight for next Friday to Orlando that I was planning to change to October. Today the airline sent me an email saying next Friday's flight is cancelled because MDE is shutting down for 30 days.

Kelso1
03-20-20, 04:25
A better rule of thumb is don't do TLN with unknown girls.

Another rule to consider:

When all the bars, clubs and restaurants in an entire country have been shutdown, borders have been closed to foreigners, residents have been advised to stay home, maybe it's a bad time to be picking up girls off the street.So you are saying because of the shutdown street girls are more dangerous. Really what has that to do with a bad apple? This girl is a real pro. No matter what the situation she is looking to score.

BTW I was wondering when someone would blame me for the incident. Well you are right it is my fault for being a dumb monger.

JjBee62
03-20-20, 20:07
So you are saying because of the shutdown street girls are more dangerous. Really what has that to do with a bad apple? This girl is a real pro. No matter what the situation she is looking to score.

BTW I was wondering when someone would blame me for the incident. Well you are right it is my fault for being a dumb monger.Is that how you're going to take it? You've been around for awhile. You've even, according to you, been through the same thing before.

How many times have you seen reports telling people to avoid TLN with unknown girls? They're unknown. You know nothing about them. Your knowledge level on all the important performance issues is zero. You don't know if she's got a stinky pussy, or severe baby damage. You don't know if she's a starfish, or if she's going to be resistant to everything you want. You don't know. It has little to do with getting drugged and robbed. It's the risk that you're wasting money on something that won't meet your expectations.

So yes. If a seasoned veteran grabs a complete unknown for TLN and the session isn't what he expected, I'm going to say the seasoned veteran should have known better.

You still haven't told us how she got the drug into you. That would be useful to know. I assume you had something to drink with her. It seems common for guys to get drugged that way. I've lost track of the number of times I've written to keep your drink under your control at all times, don't take drinks from strangers, don't let girls make your drinks.

But we all let our guard down at times. I'm not saying it's your fault, but I am saying you should be looking at it to figure out how it happened and what people should do to reduce the risk.

As for staying off the streets. The world is shutdown. There are already a lot of people who are facing more hardship than usual. That means more desperate people are going to be out and about and less of the dependable people will be out and about. The chance of running into a problem is going up every day. The governments know this. Why do you think curfews are going into effect?

Now is a good time to sit at home and do nothing.

TjBrazil
03-21-20, 09:03
Kelso,

I'm shocked at your report about being robbed of all that money. You say you're a experienced monger. Number one- why do you have that much cash at one time. You should have a Charles schwab checking account where all ATM fees are refunded at end of the month. A schwab card and mongering go together like a bat and baseball. With that card you can take out a little at a time and never worry about being robbed for more than 100 to 150 dollars. As far as your phone. You should only be using an old smartphone and keep your new one in the US. I still have my first smartphone that I take to Mexico and Colombia, or any mongering destination. My 600 dollar phone stays in my home. TLN is only with girls that you know well and have a good time with. Never buy the car first time out. Rent it and then buy it for a longer term. These are things you should know as a experienced monger.

JjBee62
03-21-20, 18:14
Kelso,

I'm shocked at your report about being robbed of all that money. You say you're a experienced monger. Number one- why do you have that much cash at one time. You should have a Charles schwab checking account where all ATM fees are refunded at end of the month. A schwab card and mongering go together like a bat and baseball. With that card you can take out a little at a time and never worry about being robbed for more than 100 to 150 dollars. As far as your phone. You should only be using an old smartphone and keep your new one in the US. I still have my first smartphone that I take to Mexico and Colombia, or any mongering destination. My 600 dollar phone stays in my home. TLN is only with girls that you know well and have a good time with. Never buy the car first time out. Rent it and then buy it for a longer term. These are things you should know as a experienced monger.His friend lives in Colombia. Kelso was stockpiling pesos, which I assume the friend would hold for him, to take advantage of the current exchange rate. I imagine quite a few expats are doing the same thing.

TjBrazil
03-21-20, 20:07
His friend lives in Colombia. Kelso was stockpiling pesos, which I assume the friend would hold for him, to take advantage of the current exchange rate. I imagine quite a few expats are doing the same thing.Wait till your last day and take out as many pesos as you can before leaving. Call the bank and tell them to raise your limit for that day. No excuse to be having that much money in your hotel room unless there is zero chance of the maids or a guest stealing it.

Kelso1
03-22-20, 01:13
His friend lives in Colombia. Kelso was stockpiling pesos, which I assume the friend would hold for him, to take advantage of the current exchange rate. I imagine quite a few expats are doing the same thing.I was just going to respond when I saw your post. A good example on how some posters don't really understand what is posted but still they comment anyway.

I was drugged years ago with a drink in my room. I woke up seven hours later in my bed. This time I did not drink with her. I think she got it in my face somehow. I did not sleep I was walking around in my room in a daze.

This incident really woke me up. I have been mongering for a long time. I have had many beautiful girls and most of the time it has been great not only for the sexo but with the friends I have met in my travels.

At almost 74 years old It is time for me to pull the plug on my travels to monger.

At this time I wish all the fellows good luck.

Questner
03-22-20, 02:24
Hording pesos is one the dumbest things I've read here recently, especially leaving Colombia with pesos. You should withdraw pesos at ATM, buy dollars cash and repatriate cash home, all within limits and security precautions. XE rate now is 4,117 and you can buy USD at 3,480 pesos.

Blue Touch
03-22-20, 04:04
You are taking the incident too negatively. The stolen amount was about only $1 k. It is not a big deal. You lose much bigger amounts sometimes and gain bigger amounts sometimes as well. Plus, You don't know yet if you were lucky or unfortunate that the money was stolen. Same for the girls, we don't know yet if the stolen things would be a fortune or curse to her. Rather, you should analyze that why you didn't / haven't get injured, and you should take all precaution to ensure your safety and health. I believe that similar things happened to many mongers, but they are too embarrassed to report it.


So you are saying because of the shutdown street girls are more dangerous. Really what has that to do with a bad apple? This girl is a real pro. No matter what the situation she is looking to score.

BTW I was wondering when someone would blame me for the incident. Well you are right it is my fault for being a dumb monger.

Mr Enternational
03-22-20, 06:06
How many times have you seen reports telling people to avoid TLN with unknown girls?

So yes. If a seasoned veteran grabs a complete unknown for TLN and the session isn't what he expected, I'm going to say the seasoned veteran should have known better.I totally disagree. Or maybe this is some location-specific thing. Over my mongering career I have had way more all-nighters than short times. I started true mongering in Rio where everyone would get chicks from Help Disco and take them all night. Nobody took a chick from the disco for 1 or 2 hours. Hell, chances were she lived far away and it was already in the middle of the night. And who was about to pay for an expensive ass taxi?

Went on to Sosua and it was the same thing. Pick up a chick at night and she stays until you made her leave the next day. Went on to Thailand same thing. On to Philippines same. And countless other destinations.

Because I deal with mainly nonpros in Colombia who stay with me all night, I have only one time had a hooker stay with me all night. I reported on this in the Bogota thread in early February. It was a chick from Tinder that I had never seen in my life. Everything went great. I had bargained with her for 230,000 pesos (including however she was going to get back and forth) and we were together for 12 hours before I had to leave for the airport.

Compare that to some reports I have seen in the Bogota thread of guys paying as much as 400,000 for short time. And this chick said she actually works at one of those clip joints that charge that much. So I see it as I am ahead of the game 170,000 pesos and 10 hours.

When these all-nighters are done, the price I have always paid has not been far off from the price I may have paid doing a short time. In many cases it could be the same. So what am I really losing if I am paying a chick $5 or $10 more for all night instead of short time? I can always kick her out if there is something that I do not like. I have done well over 1,000 chicks all night worldwide without knowing them from Eve beforehand and can count on one hand the times that something went wrong.

In addition, I am a variety man. In most cases, if I have already had one session with a chick, I am not going to tell her to come another time for long time or even another short time. I am already on to the next chicks. So in my experience there is nothing wrong with having a long session with a chick before you have had a short one.

TjBrazil
03-22-20, 11:29
Mr international,

I have a question about being with 1000 girls. I'm over 100 myself and am wondering am I getting soft. I want to slow down and maybe have a steady girlfriend and leave mongering alone for awhile. Do you think I will always want to come back even if I'm happy with a girl. I'm pushing 50 now and am having a mongering mid life crisis. Anyone that's been doing this for 15 years or more like me understands what I mean. I need advice from some of the veterans. I still love 18 to 25 year old women but should I still be doing this in my 50's. I am starting to become attached to some of these women now. Where before I would move on after a night or a week with them. What's going on with me. Why am I changing. Has anyone else gone through this.

Kelso1
03-22-20, 14:29
You are taking the incident too negatively. The stolen amount was about only $1 k. It is not a big deal. You lose much bigger amounts sometimes and gain bigger amounts sometimes as well. Plus, You don't know yet if you were lucky or unfortunate that the money was stolen. Same for the girls, we don't know yet if the stolen things would be a fortune or curse to her. Rather, you should analyze that why you didn't / haven't get injured, and you should take all precaution to ensure your safety and health. I believe that similar things happened to many mongers, but they are too embarrassed to report it.Another guy who doesn't really read my post but still makes wrong conclusions. If you read again the post I made you would see that I lost way more than a $1,000. As far as me taking the incident too negatively. Well I could have died from this powerful drug that was put on me. One more thing two days later I became so sick that I went to the hospital and was checked out OK but as of today I am still not 100% back to normal.

Guys do you think I liked admitting that I was played for a sucker? Really I only posted this incident that it may help someone in the future. I started my mongering with the intel I got mostly from ISG. This with my past trip reports is I how I give back.

I hope this ends my need to respond about my horrible incident.

Kelso1
03-22-20, 16:46
Hording pesos is one the dumbest things I've read here recently, especially leaving Colombia with pesos. You should withdraw pesos at ATM, buy dollars cash and repatriate cash home, all within limits and security precautions. XE rate now is 4,117 and you can buy USD at 3,480 pesos.Are you saying to buy pesos with USD at 4,117 and then sell them for 3,480 pesos for USD? You call me dumb?

Why would a person not want to bring pesos back home if he plans to return? Many advantages to do that. Number one is when you arrive in Colombia at the airport you don't have to wait in line for the few ATM's they have there. Then if you feel that the dollar would weaken to the pesos then you made a great move as the exchange rate is better for you. If the rate is even higher and you made a mistake then that was your call. Myself if I took home pesos at 4,000 and when I returned and it was more than that it it would cause me concern as I would buy even more to take home. My thoughts which really is just a speculation on my part is that the way the USA is printing money and all the bailouts they are talking about in the long run the USD will sink for sure.

Hey I have been a gambler all my life. Too late to change now.

Balboa
03-22-20, 17:20
How many times have you seen reports telling people to avoid TLN with unknown girls? They're unknown. You know nothing about them. Your knowledge level on all the important performance issues is zero. You don't know if she's got a stinky pussy, or severe baby damage. You don't know if she's a starfish, or if she's going to be resistant to everything you want. You don't know. It has little to do with getting drugged and robbed. It's the risk that you're wasting money on something that won't meet your expectations.



I totally disagree. Or maybe this is some location-specific thing. Over my mongering career I have had way more all-nighters than short times. I started true mongering in Rio where everyone would get chicks from Help Disco and take them all night. Nobody took a chick from the disco for 1 or 2 hours. Hell, chances were she lived far away and it was already in the middle of the night. And who was about to pay for an expensive ass taxi?
Generally speaking I agree with JB, especially for new guys, non-spanish speakers, lots of valuables in the room, etc.

It just makes common sense.

Of course I've had all-nighters with unknown girls, I've being at this a long time in both Colombia and Brazil.

And I usually sleep with one eye open and I'm on way more alert, when I do this, LOL.

If you know a girl, she's treated you right, you've got chemistry, etc, it just makes common sense that a TLN with her would be good.

If you don't know a girl, it's all up in the air, and for me, I never sleep well, if at all.

Mr E makes some valid points, and he's an experienced guy, however, overall generally speaking, TLN with unknowns, IMO, is not a great idea.

JjBee62
03-22-20, 17:37
I totally disagree. Or maybe this is some location-specific thing. Over my mongering career I have had way more all-nighters than short times. I started true mongering in Rio where everyone would get chicks from Help Disco and take them all night. Nobody took a chick from the disco for 1 or 2 hours. Hell, chances were she lived far away and it was already in the middle of the night. And who was about to pay for an expensive ass taxi?

Went on to Sosua and it was the same thing. Pick up a chick at night and she stays until you made her leave the next day. Went on to Thailand same thing. On to Philippines same. And countless other destinations.

Because I deal with mainly nonpros in Colombia who stay with me all night, I have only one time had a hooker stay with me all night. I reported on this in the Bogota thread in early February. It was a chick from Tinder that I had never seen in my life. Everything went great. I had bargained with her for 230,000 pesos (including however she was going to get back and forth) and we were together for 12 hours before I had to leave for the airport. .Now I know I don't need to tell you to RTFF. In your experience it's all good. Everywhere is safe, all girls are excellent performers, most don't even want money.

Unfortunately, not everyone experiences the same thing. There are a lot more reports about bad, first time TLNs than excellent, first time TLNs. You're also comparing 1,000 non-pros and 1 hooker to 1 Santa Fe street girl.

Give me your honest opinion. If you had instead picked up 1,000 girls off the streets of Santa Fe and had every one of them for TLN, what do you suppose your success rate would be?

Knowledge
03-22-20, 18:16
Good advice, and of course it is monger 101 that valuable must be secured or within sight AT ALL TIMES. The classic mistake even experienced mongers make is to leave a wallet or watch out of sight whilst taking a quick piss or washing hands. Some girls get offended when you pick up your pants and take them with you to the bathroom but boo fucking hoo.


Generally speaking I agree with JB, especially for new guys, non-spanish speakers, lots of valuables in the room, etc.

It just makes common sense.

Of course I've had all-nighters with unknown girls, I've being at this a long time in both Colombia and Brazil.

And I usually sleep with one eye open and I'm on way more alert, when I do this, LOL.

If you know a girl, she's treated you right, you've got chemistry, etc, it just makes common sense that a TLN with her would be good.

If you don't know a girl, it's all up in the air, and for me, I never sleep well, if at all.

Mr E makes some valid points, and he's an experienced guy, however, overall generally speaking, TLN with unknowns, IMO, is not a great idea.

Mr Enternational
03-22-20, 20:58
Mr international,

I have a question about being with 1000 girls. I'm over 100 myself and am wondering am I getting soft. I want to slow down and maybe have a steady girlfriend and leave mongering alone for awhile. Do you think I will always want to come back even if I'm happy with a girl. I'm pushing 50 now and am having a mongering mid life crisis. Anyone that's been doing this for 15 years or more like me understands what I mean. I need advice from some of the veterans. I still love 18 to 25 year old women but should I still be doing this in my 50's. I am starting to become attached to some of these women now. Where before I would move on after a night or a week with them. What's going on with me. Why am I changing. Has anyone else gone through this.Nobody can tell you anything. You have to know yourself in order to make calls on what is good for your life. I will be 48 next month. Shit Kelso is in his 70's. I am not as much of a monger as I am a player. I don't get into sports, drinking, gambling. I am just addicted to women. It runs deep in my blood to at least my great-grandfather (and he was a preacher) on my dad's side and my grandfather on my mother's side.

When I am new to a place I will check out the mongering, then when I get my bearings I am messing with more non-pros. From then on if I have some free time and am not being lazy then I may mix in some pros. For me it is more of an attention thing than a sex thing. I will invite chicks over and let them in and I go right to sleep. If I wake up in the morning and feel like fucking them then so be it.

My daughter is grown and I don't have any bills. All my money goes to traveling, guns, women, and retirement. I needed a new hobby so I just started this private pilot course. I am just living how I want to live and doing what I want to do. The only rule in life is to treat others how you want to be treated. Other than that, have fun. Do what you enjoy doing and what makes you happy.

I have plenty of steady girlfirends, but they all know that they are not the only one that I am with. For some strange reason, several times in my life I have ended up being involved at the same time with chicks who were friends or knew each other. The shit wasn't on purpose, just so turned out they knew each other. And you know what. One never cared that I was fucking the other and in every time they both knew about it. Sometimes I have to shake my damn head when I think about my crazy life.

Even last night I met a chick on some casual platonic stuff. Or at least that was my only intention. Ended up coming to my place and the chick wanted to fuck. I can not run away from pussy. I took her back to where she was staying and the friend she was staying with just so happened to be a chick that I met last year and was over to the same condo. I never fucked the chick whose condo it was. I only sat and talked with her back then. She was not my type.

If I am dead and gone tomorrow then nobody will feel sorry for me. They know I came to this mf and had a good ass time and did it how I wanted to do it. Like Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis said, I did it my way. You are the only one that can figure out what your way is; and do it just like that. Trust me I did not choose this lifestyle; it chose me.

JjBee62
03-22-20, 21:27
Another guy who doesn't really read my post but still makes wrong conclusions. If you read again the post I made you would see that I lost way more than a $1,000. As far as me taking the incident too negatively. Well I could have died from this powerful drug that was put on me. One more thing two days later I became so sick that I went to the hospital and was checked out OK but as of today I am still not 100% back to normal.

Guys do you think I liked admitting that I was played for a sucker? Really I only posted this incident that it may help someone in the future. I started my mongering with the intel I got mostly from ISG. This with my past trip reports is I how I give back.

I hope this ends my need to respond about my horrible incident.It did take a lot of courage to write about it. Most people don't. At first I believed such things were rare. Some cases I believed were excuses to explain to the wife why a guy spent $3000 in 2 days. Then people started telling me it had happened to them. Now I realize most won't report it.

I know my first reply came out as blaming you. I'm very self-critical. Part of my military training. If something goes wrong, how did I contribute? What mistakes did I make? How can I avoid this in the future? How do I need to modify my behavior?

Did you make mistakes? Probably. We all do. Worst thing for you, other than the obvious health risk, was the timing.

TjBrazil
03-22-20, 21:54
I am getting a vasectomy in a month or 2. You can buy instant HIV tests on amazon for 30 each, so I can test the girls for that. Unfortunately there are other things you can catch that there is no instant test for. Do you go bareback with these girls since you can test them on the spot. I'm looking forward to sex without condoms but know there are huge risks doing it with hookers. What's everyone's experience on bareback. I have never bare backed any of these girls. If I want to go this rout should I stick to SA or tinder or strictly non pros which are a headache.

YippieKayay
03-23-20, 01:39
I am getting a vasectomy in a month or 2. You can buy instant HIV tests on amazon for 30 each, so I can test the girls for that. Unfortunately there are other things you can catch that there is no instant test for. Do you go bareback with these girls since you can test them on the spot. I'm looking forward to sex without condoms but know there are huge risks doing it with hookers. What's everyone's experience on bareback. I have never bare backed any of these girls. If I want to go this rout should I stick to SA or tinder or strictly non pros which are a headache.Almost four years of mostly bareback. No kids (that I know of) and no STDs. I only do freelancers will not go bareback in a brothel.

TjBrazil
03-23-20, 05:15
Yippie, what is your definition of a freelancer. That's vague.

Duncan216
03-23-20, 05:30
Mr international,

I have a question about being with 1000 girls. I'm over 100 myself and am wondering am I getting soft. I want to slow down and maybe have a steady girlfriend and leave mongering alone for awhile. Do you think I will always want to come back even if I'm happy with a girl. I'm pushing 50 now and am having a mongering mid life crisis. Anyone that's been doing this for 15 years or more like me understands what I mean. I need advice from some of the veterans. I still love 18 to 25 year old women but should I still be doing this in my 50's. I am starting to become attached to some of these women now. Where before I would move on after a night or a week with them. What's going on with me. Why am I changing. Has anyone else gone through this.I'm young but started early. I think I've been what you are going through.

When I was younger and this hit me, I'd get back into shape, get some new stylish clothing and monger for girls that are really into me. I'd grab some women I haven't been with. The passion some of those women had got me going quick.

Now I usually end up hitting a new city / country and everything just resets for me. I still think fondly of some of the girls I've been with but the newness of another country with a whole new set of girls and culture (even if some parts aren't as good) reinvigorates my hunger. Also finding girls with new fetishes helps me too. Trying women that you usually don't go for has been pleasantly surprising.

You can also lean into it. Ask the women you are getting attached to, to set you up on dates with their friends. I have a couple girls like that. It's pretty fun.

One time, I spent a lot of time out of the bedroom with one of these girls and started getting attached. Best to keep things to the bedroom. Make friends with mongers to do the outside stuff. If you have questions about the girl, I'll save you some time. She's manipulating you to try and get more out of you. Most of the stuff she says are lies and yeah whatever you are trying to accomplish BBFS, etc can be accomplished easier with money and without her manipulating you. Even if you don't waste money, you are wasting time.

Anyway, like I said, I'm pretty young mid to late 30's still. I might not know what I'm talking about so feel free to ignore me if it doesn't help. I think I've been with over 1000 girls (definitely over 100) but that includes super waste of money harem like situations at cheap locations.

Duncan216
03-23-20, 05:38
I am getting a vasectomy in a month or 2. You can buy instant HIV tests on amazon for 30 each, so I can test the girls for that. Unfortunately there are other things you can catch that there is no instant test for. Do you go bareback with these girls since you can test them on the spot. I'm looking forward to sex without condoms but know there are huge risks doing it with hookers. What's everyone's experience on bareback. I have never bare backed any of these girls. If I want to go this rout should I stick to SA or tinder or strictly non pros which are a headache.I ordered a HIV test only to read in the instructions that it takes 20 minutes. I'd prob only do it with a TLN with a test driven non pro. 20 minutes is a long time to wait.

I did bare back on a brothel girl once (without testing her before the deed). It wasn't worth it. Lots of stress till I tested myself and she was a starfish.

Mr Enternational
03-23-20, 08:48
Yippie, what is your definition of a freelancer. That's vague.That is not vague. A freelancer is one who works for themselves. They are not attached to a particular establishment or under management of another person.


You can buy instant HIV tests on amazon for 30 each, so I can test the girls for that. Unfortunately there are other things you can catch that there is no instant test for. Do you go bareback with these girls since you can test them on the spot. You assume girls are going to allow you, a random Joe, to test them. You are going to pay more for the test than you are for the pussy. LOL.

YippieKayay
03-23-20, 09:18
Yippie, what is your definition of a freelancer. That's vague.Hookers I pick up in clubs and bars. I wear a condom if I think the chica is fucking a lot of guys (for example a brothel worker). There was only one chica I fucked bareback which I think is high risk. She doesn't work in a brothel but she fucks a lot of dudes; best blowjob in Colombia by far. The first time I banged her she was just coming off her period so there was even a little blood. Thankfully I didn't catch anything.

But yeah about four years of bareback. Selective in who I picked but have yet to ever test positive for an STD. Remember to pee right after sex!

EDIT:

I actually did one brothel worker in Medellin bareback, and three brothel workers in Bogota bareback. I never go to Bogota because I found all the brothel chicas were up for bareback as long as you tipped them. It is way too tempting for me so I just don't go there anymore. The chica I banged in Yakuza in Medellin which at the time had two filthy rooms with a tarp. I regard all these instances as close calls.

GringoItaliano
03-23-20, 15:54
I recently returned from my fourth trip to Colombia, where I visited Medellin and Cali. This first post is an overview of my trip and a comparison of the two cities; I will also post separate, more detailed reports on both of them.

As I have usually done in the past, I planned to split a two-week trip between two cities, with the first leg of the trip in Medellin and the second leg in another city. The goal of this approach of mine is to balance the usual focus on Medellin with my desire to explore other parts of Colombia. I chose Cali for the second leg of this trip because: it was the last of Colombia's four main cities that I had not visited yet; I thought that I would find the famously stacked Caleas appealing; and I had consistently positive experiences with Caleas in other places, such as Bogota and the Dutch Caribbean islands.

The Medellin leg of my trip was ultimately a resounding success, despite a few hiccups. It marked the maturation of my use of the Facebook pipeline there and brought me out of the sheltered environment and circles to which I had limited myself on previous trips. I felt compelled to leave Cali early because of measures taken in response to COVID-19, but the abbreviated time that I spent there led me to the conclusion that Cali probably would not have been a good fit for my tastes anyway. In any event, this trip renewed my commitment to Colombia in general and Medellin in particular as mongering destinations. Colombia is the only foreign country that I have visited four times, and Medellin is the only foreign city that I have visited three times. I look forward to returning to both of them, but I will probably limit my future mongering activities in Colombia to Medellin and Bogota.

As in the past, I decided to fly on Avianca, which has non-stop flights from JFK to Medellin. That same flight continues directly to Cali after it lands and some passengers disembark in Medellin, so I took it again as a domestic flight from Medellin to Cali a week later. My original itinerary had me on a domestic flight from Cali for a connection home to JFK from Bogota a week later. Once it became clear that I should return home in light of measures taken in response to COVID-19, I tried to change my flights home to an earlier date, but the fare difference would have been ridiculously high higher than the original cost of the ticket, in fact. It was both cheaper and easier to buy a new one-way ticket home from Cali to LaGuardia on Spirit, with a connection in Fort Lauderdale. I was unable to cancel my remaining flights on Avianca's website for some reason. It took several days to get in touch with an Avianca customer service representative by phone in order to cancel and request a voucher for a future flight. Up to this point, Avianca had been the only airline with which I had never experienced any problems, but in all fairness, the reactions to COVID-19 have been a huge problem for all airlines.

Medellin and Cali warrant different types of lodging. I stayed at the Mansion during my previous trips to Medellin. I decided to cut the cord and rent an apartment this time due to my continued maturation with the Facebook pipeline and recent changes at the Mansion. In retrospect, I think that this decision was a good idea, as it yielded better value for the money and probably enhanced the quality of my experiences. Lodging was less of a factor in planning my trip to Cali, as most sessions there occur on-site at casas, clubs, or other venues, rather than at one's own lodging. I did nonetheless want chica-friendly lodging, in the event that I found a girl at one of those venues that I wanted to bring back to my lodging for an extended session. I settled on the Ibis Cali Granada, as it is cheap and chica-friendly, and I had good results with the Ibis chain in other destinations (Rio de Janeiro, Bogota, and Prague). My only gripe was that they refused to refund or credit me for the unused nights on my reservation after I left early due to measures taken in response to COVID-19. Otherwise the hotel was fine.

Medellin is now the only mongering destination that I have visited three times, so there must be something special that keeps me coming back for more. As I have said before, the abundance of hot girls in Medellin is obviously a factor, but that factor alone does not explain it for me, especially since the (stereo) typical paisa is not necessarily the best fit for my preferred physical type (s). The key distinction for me seems to be cultural or behavioral, rather than physical. I have written before that the consistent quality of the service was what set Medellin girls apart: they were almost always OK or at least satisfactory and rarely or never bad, even if they were less likely to distinguish themselves or knock it out of the park than girls in other destinations. This trip was different in that many more girls really knocked it out of the park, but I also encountered a few duds, so there was a wider range of variation this time. I would now say that what sets (many or most of) the paisas apart is that they tend to have a certain grace, charm, or style that I find immensely appealing, or perhaps a certain warmth.

This different and generally better experience may have resulted in part from expanding my horizons beyond the well-known Facebook girls and Mansion regulars to include Facebook girls on whom I had little or no intel from any source. Not only did I cut the cord from the Mansion, I also stopped relying on the previously reported experiences of other mongers in this group and on the forums and found my own talent. I did, however, come to rely in part on my first-ever wingman, albeit a virtual one, which is probably appropriate for a Facebook-centric trip to Medellin. I have always traveled solo until now, and I never actually met this guy in person. He saw my travel announcement on Facebook, and we passed each other intel on good and bad girls that we encountered, almost in real-time. Having a wingman for the first time, even if it was only online, definitely enhanced my experience.

Behavioral and cultural features aside, the quality of the talent in Medellin (much of which tends to be on the slimmer side) is high enough that it has actually shifted my taste in female body types in a slimmer direction with each trip. I used to go exclusively for stacked girls, but it was Medellin that initially opened my eyes to slimmer girls and has continued to do so, to the point that I now give them equal consideration. This trip also led me to put more stock in the more pristine bodies and minds of younger girls (within legal limits, of course) and less stock in the skills and experience of MILFs than I did before (with one or two exceptions). I had been shifting in this direction as well for quite some time as well, but this trip was the decisive turning point. I have also grudgingly come to accept one key advantage of Internet pipelines, which I have historically disliked and tried to avoid: they open up a much larger talent pool than one could ever hope to find in any traditional in-person venue.

It took me only three days / nights in Cali to figure out that Cali was probably not going to work for me, and by that point I felt compelled to leave early anyway because of measures in response to COVID-19. The showstopper for me was the pervasiveness of CBJ at most clubs and the casas, where it appears to be a house rule. Even Dr. Amor had suspended BBBJ service, supposedly because of COVID-19. I only found one girl willing to do BBBJ on my last night in town, and she was willing to do so because the city government had shut down the clubs in response to COVID-19 and she knew that she would need the extra money in the hard times ahead. Perhaps I would have fared better with the independents at the afternoon / happy hour La 20 bars, but I did not get around to them before I decided to leave early and the city shut down the bars and clubs in response to COVID-19. The night clubs also did not appeal to me as venues because of the cigarette smoke, the often poor lighting, and the tendency of Colombian customers to hog a bunch of girls around a bottle of aguardiente, rather than actually fucking them. Another disadvantage of Cali is that the venues are spread across the city, compared to the dense "one-stop shopping" of Santa Fe in Bogota or the concentration of venues in Cartagena's charming Old City.

More broadly, I found the city of Cali itself and much of the talent pool unappealing, at least compared to the other three main Colombian cities. The cityscape is lacking in aesthetic appeal, compared to Medellin's striking and lush green hills or the historic character of Cartagena's Old City. Cali struck me as ghetto and run-down, which one could also say about Bogota, but even Bogota had its own rugged urban charms, sort of like pre-Giuliani New York. Cali reminded me more of Detroit or Baltimore instead. Cali was uncomfortably hot, but at least it did not have the sweltering heat of Cartagena.

More importantly, it was harder for me to find suitable candidates in Cali. Many of the girls there that appealed to me visually turned out to be from Medellin or other parts of Colombia, rather than Cali, which defeated the purpose of going there. I had heard that Cali was the land of tits & ass, and that it was full of stacked girls. This description is accurate, but many of these stacked girls were unappealing to me in other ways, including flabby or otherwise unfit bodies, poorly executed plastic surgery, unappealing faces and hair, or bad attitudes. That last point is key, as I had grown accustomed to the grace and charm of the Medellin girls the previous week and thus found many of the girls in Cali to be a bit rough around the edges in comparison. Overall, I would say that Cali is below average, compared to Colombia's other three main cities, and that it belongs in the same league as the DR or Costa Rica. Indeed, I would rather go to the DR or Costa Rica than Cali, since those places have more pleasant environments, more readily available BBBJ, and cheaper, non-stop flights to and from New York.

I consider this trip a success, despite bailing early and concluding that Cali was probably not my cup of tea. I have now been to all four of the main cities of Colombia, and I now know which ones work for me (Medellin and Bogota) and which ones do not (Cartagena and Cali). I had long been hesitant to accept the widespread notion that Medellin girls are special and was determined to branch out to other parts of the country. It took three trips, but I have finally come to accept that the paisas are indeed special. To the extent that I want to branch out to non-paisas in the future, I will do so in Bogota, which has the greatest diversity, the lowest prices, the coolest weather, and the largest concentration of girls in one place. I also hope to explore Colombia further from a non-mongering perspective, perhaps pairing Medellin and Bogota with places such as Santa Marta and the islands of San Andres and Providencia. I hope to return to Colombia once travel conditions return to some semblance of normalcy.

Balboa
03-23-20, 16:33
All my money goes to traveling, guns, women, and retirement. I needed a new hobby so I just started this private pilot course. I am just living how I want to live and doing what I want to do. The only rule in life is to treat others how you want to be treated. Other than that, have fun. Do what you enjoy doing and what makes you happy.

Now that about sums it up right there!

I'm on the same game plan as you E, except I've been flying planes for over 30 years now, Uncle Sam trained.

You got it perfectly though; do what makes you happy, and treat people right.

Enjoy your new endeavor in the world of aviation!

Balboa
03-23-20, 16:41
Guys do you think I liked admitting that I was played for a sucker? Really I only posted this incident that it may help someone in the future. I started my mongering with the intel I got mostly from ISG. This with my past trip reports is I how I give back.

I hope this ends my need to respond about my horrible incident.Thanks for posting your experience, Kelso!

I know a few guys who've gotten drugged / burned.

It happens, no doubt.

I've been in the situation a few times where I saw the attempt unfolding and got out.

Hope my luck and situational awareness continues.

Enjoy and stay safe!

PussyRiot
03-24-20, 04:15
I recently returned from my fourth trip to Colombia, where I visited Medellin and Cali. This first post is an overview of my trip and a comparison of the two cities; I will also post separate, more detailed reports on both of them.Awesome report as always and looking forward to the detailed reports soon.

Mojo Bandit
03-24-20, 06:42
Hording pesos is one the dumbest things I've read here recently, especially leaving Colombia with pesos. You should withdraw pesos at ATM, buy dollars cash and repatriate cash home, all within limits and security precautions. XE rate now is 4,117 and you can buy USD at 3,480 pesos.I certainly do not understand why you would say it was the "dumbest" thing to do. If a man is safe about it , it could be a smart thing to do. The colombian pesos is at a record high, as an investment event that makes it a good if you plan to visit Colombia often. It is 25% savings on the average exchange over the past five years. Most people I read say that this current exchange rate is because of the low price of oil. Colombia's largest export. So once oil goes back up again (when has it not?) this spike in pesos will go down, and the price will get closer to 3000 again. Thus if a man comes back with the pesos he bought at the 4000 mark. He is living 25% better.

Mr Enternational
03-24-20, 07:05
I certainly do not understand why you would say it was the "dumbest" thing to do. If a man is safe about it , it could be a smart thing to do. The colombian pesos is at a record high, as an investment event that makes it a good if you plan to visit Colombia often.Because people usually hoard US $, euro, and GBP because they are more stable currencies. Also, he bought on an upswing. What if it continues up to 4500? He will be kicking himself in the ass for trading $10,000 at a 3900 rate. Anyway you look at it, it is a big risk trading currencies. And unless you are making a big purchase the amount is usually negligible anyway. He could have invested the same amount and received a return instead of having foreign currency sitting up somewhere collecting dust and earning him nothing.

Elvis 2008
03-26-20, 03:59
Most people I read say that this current exchange rate is because of the low price of oil. Colombia's largest export. So once oil goes back up again (when has it not?) this spike in pesos will go down, and the price will get closer to 3000 again. Thus if a man comes back with the pesos he bought at the 4000 mark. He is living 25% better.Oil is in a different world now Mojo. I wouldn't count on it coming back. The way shale oil is produced is way different than conventional oil, you get most of the production right up front, and the Saudis don't seem to get that. They are cranking full out right now trying to kill American shale producers with low prices, so it will be a while for prices to return to where they were, probably years. I doubt we see 3000 COP for a long, long time if ever. 3500 sure.

The other thing is that China is down and will be for a long time. I think America and the West is going to rethink keeping so much production there, and China's relentless demand for raw goods has been pushing South America's economies up. Given where copper is going, which I know is Peru's main export and I think Chili's, I think we are going to see from might fine times with the dollar in all of Latin America. The party has just begun IMO.

Turgid
03-30-20, 16:32
Oil is in a different world now Mojo. I wouldn't count on it coming back. The way shale oil is produced is way different than conventional oil...........Shale oil production requires more energy to extract a barrel of oil than the price of a barrel of oil even when oil was priced much higher. Saudi oil is the cheapest to extract. The US is bound to lose this battle, at least with shale oil.

Radar99
04-02-20, 09:58
Shale oil production requires more energy to extract a barrel of oil than the price of a barrel of oil even when oil was priced much higher. Saudi oil is the cheapest to extract. The US is bound to lose this battle, at least with shale oil.You are correct, Saudi oil is the cheapest, as well as Iranian one too. Most of US companies are not even close to giving any competition to Saudi market in the near future.

Radar99
04-03-20, 11:11
I ordered a HIV test only to read in the instructions that it takes 20 minutes. I'd prob only do it with a TLN with a test driven non pro. 20 minutes is a long time to wait.

I did bare back on a brothel girl once (without testing her before the deed). It wasn't worth it. Lots of stress till I tested myself and she was a starfish.How reliable are these 20 minutes HIV test kits which I read about so often in internet and other forums. Are they completely reliable and what are the precautions to be followed when using them?

JjBee62
04-03-20, 15:13
How reliable are these 20 minutes HIV test kits which I read about so often in internet and other forums. Are they completely reliable and what are the precautions to be followed when using them?I haven't looked at them for about 5 years. Maybe they have improved. When I researched them, they were very accurate with positive results. If the test showed positive, you could be almost certain they were positive. However, if the test showed negative, there was a good chance the person was positive for HIV.

Elvis 2008
04-03-20, 17:16
Shale oil production requires more energy to extract a barrel of oil than the price of a barrel of oil even when oil was priced much higher. Saudi oil is the cheapest to extract. The US is bound to lose this battle, at least with shale oil.I am not sure what you mean by winning and losing. Saudi Arabia produces 12 million BPD of oil. Russia is about the same. The world energy market is 80 million BPD of oil and 100 million BPD equivalent if you add in natural gas. Point is that with normal consumption I am not sure how Saudi Arabia "wins". They will lose less money given their production costs due to the huge decline in oil prices and demand.

Still, we have been through this before. Oil went way down. The rigs were taken off and held in oil yards. I never saw so many rigs in my life when this happened. Oil went up and there was an emptying of the rigs in the yards.

If the Saudis drive some of the shale oil producers out of business, they declare bankruptcy and their assets are bought out by more cash rich producers, a consolidation phase in the market of producers is likely to occur.

Once demand returns to pre Corona days, there will be demand for American oil again and it will be produced. The idea that American shale oil going away is kind of silly. It will be back once demand returns. There is no way Saudi Arabia can supply the whole world.

SeekingHead
04-03-20, 20:03
I am not sure what you mean by winning and losing. Saudi Arabia produces 12 million BPD of oil. Russia is about the same. The world energy market is 80 million BPD of oil and 100 million BPD equivalent if you add in natural gas. Point is that with normal consumption I am not sure how Saudi Arabia "wins". They will lose less money given their production costs due to the huge decline in oil prices and demand.

Still, we have been through this before. Oil went way down. The rigs were taken off and held in oil yards. I never saw so many rigs in my life when this happened. Oil went up and there was an emptying of the rigs in the yards.

If the Saudis drive some of the shale oil producers out of business, they declare bankruptcy and their assets are bought out by more cash rich producers, a consolidation phase in the market of producers is likely to occur.

Once demand returns to pre Corona days, there will be demand for American oil again and it will be produced. The idea that American shale oil going away is kind of silly. It will be back once demand returns. There is no way Saudi Arabia can supply the whole world.Elvis,

What the Saudi's are trying to do to the American Shale industry is drive away their financiers or raise their interest rates so high it makes it prohibitive to drill new wells. If you have the Saudi's bankrupting 30 to 40% of all shale companies every 3 to 5 years by turning on the spigot & lowering the price then financing will become very hard to come by or terms will be so bad to the shale companies there will be little profit to be had.

If you look at the energy segment as a whole over the last 5 years & the segment was only up 6% over 5 years before the virus, now post virus we are seeing the segment down 20 to 30% below 5 years ago.

Radar99
04-04-20, 02:26
I haven't looked at them for about 5 years. Maybe they have improved. When I researched them, they were very accurate with positive results. If the test showed positive, you could be almost certain they were positive. However, if the test showed negative, there was a good chance the person was positive for HIV.Thanks for your reply. Which is the best brand that you could think now, any names? And how much do they cost. I have also heard there are some out in the market which can give you results based on your saliva, I don't know if that's ever possible or not.

Elvis 2008
04-04-20, 06:09
Elvis,

What the Saudi's are trying to do to the American Shale industry is drive away their financiers or raise their interest rates so high it makes it prohibitive to drill new wells. If you have the Saudi's bankrupting 30 to 40% of all shale companies every 3 to 5 years by turning on the spigot & lowering the price then financing will become very hard to come by or terms will be so bad to the shale companies there will be little profit to be had.Oh, you are dead on, SH. That is exactly what they think. However, I also think it is a desperation move and bound to fail.

Interest rates are way down now. Big companies can borrow at lower rates, and if you can lock in a price via oil futures, which is pretty much insurance against falling prices, the downside to investing in oil is limited.

There was a lot of dumb money in oil. The peak oil nuts convinced themselves that oil companies would not produce more oil and demand for oil was inelastic, and both assumptions were dead wrong. If the Saudis action has any effect, IMO what you will see is the dumb money move out of shale production, and the smart money moving in.

BTW, I have been told that we are going to take out Maduro in Venezuela. Trump or someone in his administration has presented Maduro with the same plan as Noriega in Panama was given. If Maduro refuses, he will be taken out like Noriega was.

People against this are saying it is because "we want their oil" which is kind of funny because I think we have plenty of our own now.

It will be interesting to see what will happen in Colombia and Venezuelan chicas if this does come to reality and Maduro goes. Will we able to go there and be welcomed? Is Corona ravaging Venezuela now or is it not that bad? Sure is interesting times for us mongers.

Nounce
04-04-20, 06:16
If you look at the energy segment as a whole over the last 5 years & the segment was only up 6% over 5 years before the virus, now post virus we are seeing the segment down 20 to 30% below 5 years ago.I looked at ETFs and all of them are down way more than that. Individual companies like OXY is down to the low teens. The 52 weeks high is about $68.

Nounce
04-04-20, 22:09
I am not sure what you mean by winning and losing. Saudi Arabia produces 12 million BPD of oil. Russia is about the same. ........................... Point is that with normal consumption I am not sure how Saudi Arabia "wins". They will lose less money given their production costs due to the huge decline in oil prices and demand.
It depends on how you define "win". In order to maintain the current price, Saudi has to reduce production. If Saudi Arabia is the only one that reduces production, they lose because their income is reduced and market share shrink while others may be able to maintain the same level of income and increase market share.

One way to define "win" is to increase market share regardless of price. You take the most amount of money available even if it is less then before.

Hedge has a time limit. The oil company can't simply shutdown a well like a faucet or stop for various reasons. If it keeps up, eventually some producers have to pay someone to take the oil when they don't have a place to store it or go bankrupt. I read that the cost basis differs widely among shale wells so it is not a static condition.

Radar99
04-05-20, 15:26
I am getting a vasectomy in a month or 2. You can buy instant HIV tests on amazon for 30 each, so I can test the girls for that. Unfortunately there are other things you can catch that there is no instant test for. Do you go bareback with these girls since you can test them on the spot. I'm looking forward to sex without condoms but know there are huge risks doing it with hookers. What's everyone's experience on bareback. I have never bare backed any of these girls. If I want to go this rout should I stick to SA or tinder or strictly non pros which are a headache.I think you can find non pros in SA also, they tend to be like that and say they are non pros. I don't know about tinder though. And also some of the SA girls become so excited during the heat of the moment that they do bareback.

Bienenstich
04-05-20, 18:06
How much of a nuisance is it to get BBFS from pros in Bogota or Medellin?

I'm assuming it's not as convenient as in the Philippines where I feel like it's standard.

In Thailand I have to run around asking a lot but the success rate is acceptable.

Radar99
04-06-20, 05:48
How much of a nuisance is it to get BBFS from pros in Bogota or Medellin?

I'm assuming it's not as convenient as in the Philippines where I feel like it's standard.

In Thailand I have to run around asking a lot but the success rate is acceptable.Thailand is the place known for providing ultra pleasure so it's acceptable there. But for pros here, it depends on how their mood is at that moment. Extra cash can do the trick. Still depends on who the girl is.

Elvis 2008
04-06-20, 07:18
I ordered a HIV test only to read in the instructions that it takes 20 minutes. I'd prob only do it with a TLN with a test driven non pro. 20 minutes is a long time to wait.

I did bare back on a brothel girl once (without testing her before the deed). It wasn't worth it. Lots of stress till I tested myself and she was a starfish.This is amazing to me people are still stressing about this. Look at these numbers: https://www.who.int/hiv/events/artprevention/gray.pdf.

Back in the early 90's heterosexual AIDS transmission were listed as 6% of all cases. That number was used as the basis for the USA Exploding to having 60 million cases of AIDS which never happened. The important thing that was not asked was how the numbers were obtained. In short, people were asked their risk factors. That is it. That was the science. It was assumed back then that no one lie about shooting up drugs or being gay. It was stupid as fuck.

When you look at results, and you get 0-0. 011 transmission results, and you get results that suggest there is zero to 11 in 100,000 rates of transmission. How do you know those 11 in 100,000 transmissions didn't occur due to some other behavior? You don't. In fact, it is insulting to me to even suggest that there that is HIV transmission due to normal heterosexual activity. The only reason to list it is because you believe it is true versus some kind of error in testing.

Then you look at how effective testing is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OajiyoWmKiE.

And the testing is nowhere specific or sensitive enough to make that determination.

If you really want to go in depth, this is a great read about HIV and AIDS in Africa: https://abrahamson.medill.northwestern.edu/WWW/IALJS/Malan_AidsInAfrica_RollingStone_22Nov2001.pdf.

Hetreosexual AIDS was a myth concocted by the CDC in the late 1980's to make money. Period. That is it.

Read this here: https://capitalresearch.org/article/lies-damned-lies-and-government-statistics-contd-hiv-and-the-cdc/.

What is not listed in the article is that in 1996 after the CDC bilked the heterosexual AIDS bullshit for all it is worth, they guessed there were only 500,000 cases of AIDS.

I think heterosexual AIDS is bullshit. Maybe if a guy fucks a girl in the ass really hard and cums on it, which would be like gay sex, it is possible for the girl to get it, but quite frankly, I think worrying about a guy getting AIDS with heterosexual sex is a waste of time. You have a better chance dying due to a crazy woman or pimp pulling a knife on you and stabbing you or having an allergic reaction to the latex in a condom than dying of AIDS.

JonSnow1
04-07-20, 00:54
How much of a nuisance is it to get BBFS from pros in Bogota or Medellin?

I'm assuming it's not as convenient as in the Philippines where I feel like it's standard.

In Thailand I have to run around asking a lot but the success rate is acceptable.Getting BBFS is easier if you see a girl repeatedly. Build some rapport with her and she'll open up the second time you see her. Otherwise, it may be available for an additional tip. It also depends on your appearance / hygiene.

YyzTravel
04-08-20, 21:16
A good rule of thumb, when TLN, is to have her register at the hotel, so that when they leave, reception calls you to ask if everything is ok, only do it with chicas you know or are recommended by someone you know, otherwise, just see them during the day.Do you register a girl, and then "de-register" after they leave? Also, forgive my ignorance here, but what is TLN?

Uthred
04-09-20, 02:05
Do you register a girl, and then "de-register" after they leave? Also, forgive my ignorance here, but what is TLN?Toda La Noche cabron! Here is a link to the abbreviations bud.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations#t.

SeekingHead
04-09-20, 04:39
This is amazing to me people are still stressing about this. Look at these numbers: https://www.who.int/hiv/events/artprevention/gray.pdf.

Back in the early 90's heterosexual AIDS transmission were listed as 6% of all cases. That number was used as the basis for the USA Exploding to having 60 million cases of AIDS which never happened. The important thing that was not asked was how the numbers were obtained. In short, people were asked their risk factors. That is it. That was the science. It was assumed back then that no one lie about shooting up drugs or being gay. It was stupid as fuck.If you are a circumcised male there is a greater chance of getting struck by a car & killed than there is to catch HIV with a women thru PIV sex. There is a slight risk with bareback anal mainly because sometimes things tear or chafe with anal sex. I will bareback any non-working girl, if I know a chick is super high mileage such as a working girl or a stripper then I will use a condom, as there is a much greater risk. The neighborhood ****, I'll bareback her.

Also during this time we had Nancy Reagan on TV preaching morality. This had an effect on the CDC began advising to abstain from sex & if you had to have sex then use a condom.

YyzTravel
04-09-20, 14:40
Toda La Noche cabron! Here is a link to the abbreviations bud.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations#t.Thanks! This is super helpful.

TjBrazil
04-10-20, 10:26
If you are a circumcised male there is a greater chance of getting struck by a car & killed than there is to catch HIV with a women thru PIV sex. There is a slight risk with bareback anal mainly because sometimes things tear or chafe with anal sex. I will bareback any non-working girl, if I know a chick is super high mileage such as a working girl or a stripper then I will use a condom, as there is a much greater risk. The neighborhood ****, I'll bareback her.

Also during this time we had Nancy Reagan on TV preaching morality. This had an effect on the CDC began advising to abstain from sex & if you had to have sex then use a condom.Sounds like bro science. Ask Tommy Morrison and magic Johnson if you can get HIV from girls. There is only one way to know for sure. Give them a FDA approved HIV instant test. Its 30 bucks which isn't bad if you have a decent bankroll. I only plan on going bareback with my regular when I arrive in Medellin so it won't be too bad for me.

YyzTravel
04-11-20, 22:40
Sounds like bro science. Ask Tommy Morrison and magic Johnson if you can get HIV from girls. There is only one way to know for sure. Give them a FDA approved HIV instant test. Its 30 bucks which isn't bad if you have a decent bankroll. I only plan on going bareback with my regular when I arrive in Medellin so it won't be too bad for me.Thanks for calling this out; I'm glad I wasn't the only one not buying that bullshit. No offense, but not going to risk potentially getting HIV based off some rando on a sex board saying it's for gays only. Would rather use of these for girls when going TLD / TLN so I can bareback for hours. $40 is worth peace of mind 10 x over.

Elvis 2008
04-12-20, 05:02
Sounds like bro science. Ask Tommy Morrison and magic Johnson if you can get HIV from girls.I am glad that you know that they are telling the truth.


There is only one way to know for sure. Give them a FDA approved HIV instant test. Its 30 bucks which isn't bad if you have a decent bankroll.Thank God the FDA is so honest and would never ever cash in on fear mongering. Obviously, you didn't watch the video on testing and how accurate or rather inaccurate it is.

Given that we had 24,000 people die of the flu last year and it kills you in weeks versus 13,000 who died of AIDS when it takes decades, why are you not doing influenza swabs?

Mr Enternational
04-12-20, 06:01
Given that we had 24,000 people die of the flu last year and it kills you in weeks versus 13,000 who died of AIDS when it takes decades, why are you not doing influenza swabs?Because a quick death is more tolerable and maybe the social stigma attached to having HIV versus having influenza?

Nounce
04-12-20, 08:18
ased off some rando on a sex board saying it's for gays onlyI have not read anybody saying that. Do you know there is an anal sex thread on this board?

This is what he said.


if I know a chick is super high mileage such as a working girl or a stripper then I will use a condom, as there is a much greater risk

YyzTravel
04-12-20, 17:27
I have not read anybody saying that. Do you know there is an anal sex thread on this board?

This is what he said.Didn't mean to come off rude there. Apologies if it did. It's just a serious illness that is lifelong and fatal eventually. I get it that the flu is also serious, but the average person gets the flu and recovers from it naturally most of the time. Whereas HIV is a long term medical treatment thing. Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid about it, but I would rather that, than be too nonchalant and end up with it.

LeyenLouvain
04-12-20, 21:36
Thanks for calling this out; I'm glad I wasn't the only one not buying that bullshit. No offense, but not going to risk potentially getting HIV based off some rando on a sex board saying it's for gays only. Would rather use of these for girls when going TLD / TLN so I can bareback for hours. $40 is worth peace of mind 10 x over.A sexual health nurse told me not to do bareback, but if I was going to, it's safer for me to not cum inside the chica, as the spurts effectively open up the urethra to her fluid.

There is also the option of taking daily PrEP yourself which is possibly more reliable than testing the chica (because of the incubation period).

YyzTravel
04-12-20, 23:44
A sexual health nurse told me not to do bareback, but if I was going to, it's safer for me to not cum inside the chica, as the spurts effectively open up the urethra to her fluid.

There is also the option of taking daily PrEP yourself which is possibly more reliable than testing the chica (because of the incubation period).Anyone tried PrEP here, and thoughts on it?

Elvis 2008
04-13-20, 00:19
I get it that the flu is also serious, but the average person gets the flu and recovers from it naturally most of the time. Whereas HIV is a long term medical treatment thing. Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid about it, but I would rather that, than be too nonchalant and end up with it.It is not that your being nonchalant. The CDC deliberately misled people to increase its funding. They paid to advertise heterosexual AIDS. They put a cute blonde on TV who said, "if I can get AIDS, anyone can. " It turns out she was shooting up IV drugs.

They put a preacher's son on who said the same thing. It turns out he was gay. Hell, you had the head of the CDC admitting that there was no downside to inflating the number of AIDS cases. In fact within the CDC itself there was a discussion on scaring the shit out of everyone or targeting gays and IV drug addicts who really needed the education. They went with the former, and it worked their funding went through the roof. Again, it amazes me that people will believe corporations will do anything for money, but government for some reason won't. I do not get that logic.

If someone has to do testing so they feel more comfortable going bare, have at it but just understand what it is. It is the CDC scaring the shit out of everybody, and it is an emotional decision. Logically speaking, you could test for hundreds of diseases with a much better transmission rate. Nobody knows anybody here who personally has gotten AIDS via heterosexual transmission. Hell, the brothels in Nevada have never had a documented case of transmission. So why is everyone so paranoid of AIDS? Because of the CDC's bullshit. I am not making fun of people here. I am just amazed that their bullshit campaign has had such legs.

Combo
04-13-20, 04:23
Your chances of HIV from barepack vaginal sex are extremely low, but you're virtually certain to get warts and / or herpes.

Nounce
04-13-20, 04:48
Didn't mean to come off rude there. Apologies if it did. It's just a serious illness that is lifelong and fatal eventually. I get it that the flu is also serious, but the average person gets the flu and recovers from it naturally most of the time. Whereas HIV is a long term medical treatment thing. Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid about it, but I would rather that, than be too nonchalant and end up with it.I don't think you are rude. He was making a comparison about risk, and he did not say there is no risk. He certainly has not said one can't get HIV from girls.

John Clayton
04-13-20, 05:57
...He certainly has not said one can't get HIV from girls.You can't (well, practically 0 . 04%.

Duncan216
04-13-20, 06:42
Let's say I bare back and they get pregnant and have the baby. Can they come after me for child support?

Uthred
04-13-20, 08:32
Sounds like bro science. Ask Tommy Morrison and magic Johnson if you can get HIV from girls. There is only one way to know for sure. Give them a FDA approved HIV instant test. Its 30 bucks which isn't bad if you have a decent bankroll. I only plan on going bareback with my regular when I arrive in Medellin so it won't be too bad for me.You left out Eazy E!! When he died from AIDS I was shocked. He was in the hospital one day and then dead a week or 2 later. I remember doing clinicals back in the day in the imaging department at a hospital. A routine tests for HIV infected people were chest XRAYs. When they would come in, their chart would say why they were there so I got to see a lot of infected people. That's all it took for me. I saw so many beautiful girls that I would have barebacked without hesitation. One girl looked like a fuckin model. I thought fuck if she really wanted to she could be infecting all kinds of people. For me it's like anything else and you're rolling the dice. I rarely bareback unless I know the girl and even then it's not guaranteed. Bareback anal is my favorite but I have never done it with a provider. I think it's a numbers game. Obviously it's a numbers game and if you're barebacking hookers all the time then you're in for a treat.

On to the gays. I have a lot of gay friends. I am not sure if any others on here do but what I can tell you is that those fellas are reckless! You would not believe the stories I hear about the risky behaviors they get into. Bath houses, orgies with strangers, sex clubs having unprotected sex, grinder meet ups on the regular. These guys have no problem meeting a guy at the gay club and getting it on an hour later in the bathroom. A friend of mine was bent over one of the stalls in a bathroom and taken forcefully. He told me he enjoyed it and it was a regular thing in Europe. He was stationed there in the Air Force (Italy I think). When he got back to the states we would hang out at the gay clubs and then my eyes really opened up. I would get approached in the parking lot for sex. These guys had no limits. I can go on and on. Anyway I never hear about this kind of behavior in the straight community. Another thing I found bothersome was the amount of friends these guys had that had passed away from AIDS. It was like normal to some of them. Like the risk was worth it. More than once did I hear a man say that there is no better way to die than with a dick in your ass. So are gays more at risk because they do anal or because they have bath / steam houses where you can go in and have sex with strangers without even having to see their face? They never mention this kind of shit in the studies LOL.

John Gault
04-13-20, 13:46
It is not that your being nonchalant. The CDC deliberately misled people to increase its funding. They paid to advertise heterosexual AIDS. They put a cute blonde on TV who said, "if I can get AIDS, anyone can. " It turns out she was shooting up IV drugs.

They put a preacher's son on who said the same thing. It turns out he was gay. Hell, you had the head of the CDC admitting that there was no downside to inflating the number of AIDS cases. In fact within the CDC itself there was a discussion on scaring the shit out of everyone or targeting gays and IV drug addicts who really needed the education. They went with the former, and it worked their funding went through the roof. Again, it amazes me that people will believe corporations will do anything for money, but government for some reason won't. I do not get that logic.

If someone has to do testing so they feel more comfortable going bare, have at it but just understand what it is. It is the CDC scaring the shit out of everybody, and it is an emotional decision. Logically speaking, you could test for hundreds of diseases with a much better transmission rate. Nobody knows anybody here who personally has gotten AIDS via heterosexual transmission. Hell, the brothels in Nevada have never had a documented case of transmission. So why is everyone so paranoid of AIDS? Because of the CDC's bullshit. I am not making fun of people here. I am just amazed that their bullshit campaign has had such legs.Quite a while ago I read a book written by a doctor who wrote all about the AIDS situation. He was in Africa interviewing people who had lost loved ones to AIDS. Many many times he found that the people really died of other causes. When he asked why they said it was AIDS instead of the truth he was told that they were told by the do gooders who were in the country to make the false claims as it would get them funding for the area. This doctor after his efforts to uncover the truth ended up never getting any funding for the different research grants he used to get. His main idea was it was the powerful drug AST that was killing people who had in his opinion had this harmless virus. He stated if one person had the AIDS virus and another person did not. If both contacted say a unrelated infection then the person who tested for Aids was given the drug AST while the other person was given normal treatment. He even injected himself with the virus to prove his point.

Now on the question of bareback sex I worry about herpes not AIDS.

Mr Enternational
04-13-20, 14:22
On to the gays. I have a lot of gay friends. I am not sure if any others on here do but what I can tell you is that those fellas are reckless! You would not believe the stories I hear about the risky behaviors they get into. Bath houses, orgies with strangers, sex clubs having unprotected sex, grinder meet ups on the regular. These guys have no problem meeting a guy at the gay club and getting it on an hour later in the bathroom. Well that is because they are guys. You see all the stuff that guys on here are saying they do with women and others are wondering if girls will do such and such with them. You don't have that problem with guy on guy because they both are already down to do all the shit anyway. I guess what I am trying to say is that the average guy (whether straight or gay) has less inhibitions than than the average woman.

Orgasmico
04-13-20, 14:54
Check your pico y cedula this week. Here is the new one for Medellin. So far, looks like the airports will open for everyone except tourists.

Fun Luvr
04-13-20, 15:53
Your chances of HIV from barepack vaginal sex are extremely low, but you're virtually certain to get warts and / or herpes.Say what! Are you saying that almost everyone that has had bareback straight sex has herpes and/or warts?

JjBee62
04-13-20, 16:02
Say what! Are you saying that almost everyone that has had bareback straight sex has herpes and/or warts?According to the WHO estimates, 49% of women and 39% of men in the Americas are infected with HSV-1 or HSV-2. However, not all infected are symptomatic. If you're mongering bareback the odds of you coming into contact with the virus approach 100%.

Mr Enternational
04-13-20, 17:26
Say what! Are you saying that almost everyone that has had bareback straight sex has herpes and/or warts?In January, WHO estimated that 417 million people aged 15-49 years have HSV-2 infection, which causes genital herpes.

Buksida1
04-13-20, 19:04
Let's say I bare back and they get pregnant and have the baby. Can they come after me for child support?Of course you would take responsibility, if it is really your child. Any man knows that is the proper thing to do.

Mojo Bandit
04-13-20, 19:54
Check your pico y cedula this week. Here is the new one for Medellin. So far, looks like the airports will open for everyone except tourists.So guys that are in country need to know all the chica's cedula numbers so they know which ones to call over on which days. LOL But on a serious note this schedule does not address gringos or foreigners . So how are gringos supposed to take care of basics like grocery, pharmacy, bank errands etc? I know there is Rappi but not everything can be done that way. I personally would find a chica who could do some of this also but not all of it so what are the gringos there doing? I know of a couple of mongers there and I bet there are some digital nomads who are weathering out the pandemic there too. What happens if a tourist. Or gringo is caught out going to the pharmacy or bank?

Elvis 2008
04-13-20, 21:50
Now on the question of bareback sex I worry about herpes not AIDS.Condoms do not work to prevent herpes. The medications, which you can buy OTC in Colombia, do lower transmission rates.

As for warts, there is no effective treatment but washing afterwards or putting on an antiseptic helps. HPV dies at over 115 degrees or so taking a hot shower or bath may help too. Finally, I went out and got the Gardasil vaccine injections. You can still get HPV, but the vaccine is effective against a lot of strains of HPV.

Outside of pregnancy prevention, condoms do not do much in the way of protection. That was more CDC bullshit.

Elvis 2008
04-13-20, 22:07
According to the WHO estimates, 49% of women and 39% of men in the Americas are infected with HSV-1 or HSV-2. However, not all infected are symptomatic. If you're mongering bareback the odds of you coming into contact with the virus approach 100%.When you look at HSV-1 and HSV-2, you are looking for antibodies. The number I read were 70% and 30% on HSV-1 and HSV-2 antibodies. This just means exposure and not actual infection. I tested + for HSV-1 antibodies and never have had a cold sore in my life. Quite frankly, I was stunned to be negative to HSV-2 given how long that I have been at this.

Again, condoms do not work against HSV-2 or HPV or more likely the term have not been proven to be statistically significant is more like the better way to say it.

Funny thing about herpes is nobody cared about it back in the 60's and 70's. In fact, when a drug company developed a drug for treatment of herpes, no one thought it would sell. The drug company went on a shaming campaign, and the drug sales went through the roof.

The funny thing is companies promoting baby wipes did the same thing, used shaming, claimed toilet paper was not enough and made big money as well.

Herpes is really like acne with a shaming component attached to it. A person could make a case that acne due to a staph infection is worse health wise than herpes but there is little to no shaming associated with it.

YyzTravel
04-13-20, 22:13
When you look at HSV-1 and HSV-2, you are looking for antibodies. The number I read were 70% and 30% on HSV-1 and HSV-2 antibodies. This just means exposure and not actual infection. I tested + for HSV-1 antibodies and never have had a cold sore in my life. Quite frankly, I was stunned to be negative to HSV-2 given how long that I have been at this.

Again, condoms do not work against HSV-2 or HPV or more likely the term have not been proven to be statistically significant is more like the better way to say it.

Funny thing about herpes is nobody cared about it back in the 60's and 70's. In fact, when a drug company developed a drug for treatment of herpes, no one thought it would sell. The drug company went on a shaming campaign, and the drug sales went through the roof.

The funny thing is companies promoting baby wipes did the same thing, used shaming, claimed toilet paper was not enough and made big money as well.

Herpes is really like acne with a shaming component attached to it. A person could make a case that acne due to a staph infection is worse health wise than herpes but there is little to no shaming associated with it.All that being said then Elvis, do you go bareback often then? It sounds like a lot of STIs / STDs can either be treated, prevented, vaccinated against, etc. What is the criteria you use when going bareback that makes you feel comfortable?

LeyenLouvain
04-13-20, 22:15
Finally, I went out and got the Gardasil vaccine injections. You can still get HPV, but the vaccine is effective against a lot of strains of HPV.
Interesting. It seems that Colombia and Mexico have vaccine programs ie mainly to protect girls from cervical cancer but also reducing the chance of getting warts and passing them to men.

No such program in Venezuela.

Duncan216
04-13-20, 22:41
Of course you would take responsibility, if it is really your child. Any man knows that is the proper thing to do.I'm fine with letting a woman choose to take plan b or have an abortion, it's her body. A man should have a choice to support the kid / woman or not. Otherwise you have a ton of women claiming they are on birth control or stealing condoms / poking holes in them to land a monthly payday for 18 years.

I did a long term rent with a girl for a few weeks. She was fine with me blowing my load in her but I was always paranoid that she was trying to get me on the hook for a monthly paycheck. After the first week or so, I started using a condom and making sure all liquids went into the sink.

Has anyone had a situation where you offered a girl plan be and she refused and even though she's in Colombia and you are in the US or Canada, you still got to pay some kind of monthly fee? I guess I could avoid this situation by not using my real name and not telling them where I come from but it's a little hard to do with a long term rent. They can spot your name on documents if you "work from home" and spot your passport. Trying to figure out the risk of doing another long term sin condom rent.

Fun Luvr
04-14-20, 02:04
According to the WHO estimates, 49% of women and 39% of men in the Americas are infected with HSV-1 or HSV-2. Do you believe that 51% of women and 61% men in the Americas have not had bareback sex?

Uthred
04-14-20, 02:37
Well that is because they are guys. You see all the stuff that guys on here are saying they do with women and others are wondering if girls will do such and such with them. You don't have that problem with guy on guy because they both are already down to do all the shit anyway. I guess what I am trying to say is that the average guy (whether straight or gay) has less inhibitions than than the average woman.This is exactly what I am trying to say. Imagine girls played the same way? We probably would not even have this board.

JjBee62
04-14-20, 10:33
Do you believe that 51% of women and 61% men in the Americas have not had bareback sex?What does my belief have to do with it? I'm pretty sure that my belief you can't get gonorrhea from bareback sex will have no effect on whether or not you get gonorrhea.

In case you missed it, I pointed out those numbers are estimates from the WHO. In case you missed it, I pointed out that some infected people are asymptomatic.

I'm pretty sure you can find a YouTube video to teach you how to use Google to figure out the rest.

Fun Luvr
04-14-20, 13:40
I'm pretty sure you can find a YouTube video to teach you how to use Google to figure out the rest.I don't need advice from someone who admitted he does not know how to manage his financial life.

LoveItHere69
04-14-20, 14:12
So guys that are in country need to know all the chica's cedula numbers so they know which ones to call over on which days. LOL But on a serious note this schedule does not address gringos or foreigners . So how are gringos supposed to take care of basics like grocery, pharmacy, bank errands etc? I know there is Rappi but not everything can be done that way. I personally would find a chica who could do some of this also but not all of it so what are the gringos there doing? Or gringo is caught out going to the pharmacy or bank?I show them my passport and they use my passport number to enter stores. Some are A-holes and will not let me in on the wrong day even when there is no line (ARA). Sometimes business is slow and there is nobody at the door and you just walk in (Justo y Bueno). Walked 2 miles then 3 another day. Carrying a bag, walking fast, and alone nobody bothered me (I am in Barranquilla so is less strict I think). I go to store every 2-3 days to get drinks and change mostly. Several police see me out every time and no problems. It is hot here so I wear shorts and sandals so they know I am "foreigner" walking down the street.

Kafka
04-14-20, 18:21
I show them my passport and they use my passport number to enter stores. Some are A-holes and will not let me in on the wrong day even when there is no line (ARA). Sometimes business is slow and there is nobody at the door and you just walk in (Justo y Bueno). Walked 2 miles then 3 another day. Carrying a bag, walking fast, and alone nobody bothered me (I am in Barranquilla so is less strict I think). I go to store every 2-3 days to get drinks and change mostly. Several police see me out every time and no problems. It is hot here so I wear shorts and sandals so they know I am "foreigner" walking down the street.Great report this is the info needed going forward. Will you be headed to Cartegena?

Dcrist0527
04-14-20, 18:23
I'm fine with letting a woman choose to take plan b or have an abortion, it's her body. A man should have a choice to support the kid / woman or not. Otherwise you have a ton of women claiming they are on birth control or stealing condoms / poking holes in them to land a monthly payday for 18 years.

I did a long term rent with a girl for a few weeks. She was fine with me blowing my load in her but I was always paranoid that she was trying to get me on the hook for a monthly paycheck. After the first week or so, I started using a condom and making sure all liquids went into the sink.

Has anyone had a situation where you offered a girl plan be and she refused and even though she's in Colombia and you are in the US or Canada, you still got to pay some kind of monthly fee? I guess I could avoid this situation by not using my real name and not telling them where I come from but it's a little hard to do with a long term rent. They can spot your name on documents if you "work from home" and spot your passport. Trying to figure out the risk of doing another long term sin condom rent.I'm going to say this and do not mean it to be judgmental. But if you BBFS, you inherently accept that risk. I'm not talking about the girls who trick men about being on the pill. But even that is a gray area. But talking about fake names, abandoning a girl in the country just doesn't feel right at all. I am really not trying to get on a high horse here. But I don't find a man shirking his responsibility acceptable. To each their own. And sure, she knows the risk too. She also has multiple partners. I understand it's a complex issue. But I just don't know my conscience would allow me to ghost a responsibility like that. I don't BBFS, but just my two cents. No offense meant here at all. I truly am not judging.

JjBee62
04-14-20, 19:19
I don't need advice from someone who admitted he does not know how to manage his financial life.Then why did you ask?

Sorry, but I don't have a financial life. Just one of those plain, everyday normal lives most people are born with. I grew up on government cheese and VA survivor benefits.

Broke doesn't scare me. I have no fear of being poor. Again. Admitting mistakes doesn't worry me either. I make them, admit them and hope someone learns from them. That's one of the reasons this board exists, so we can help others learn from our mistakes.

What is it you're worried about?

Elvis 2008
04-14-20, 21:06
All that being said then Elvis, do you go bareback often then? It sounds like a lot of STIs / STDs can either be treated, prevented, vaccinated against, etc. What is the criteria you use when going bareback that makes you feel comfortable?Yyz, there was a huge study back in 2002 that had all the major health organizations in on it. The goal was to show condoms worked for STDs. The result was the opposite, and it was buried. It totally changed my thinking on sex and condoms.

The working women in Colombia are hyperparanoid about going bare. Apparently, the government scares the crap out of them about AIDS and condoms there. What I find is the regular women I have met on Seeking Arrangement are much more okay with it. I go bare with all of them are once I get to know them.

I have a regimen of two antibiotics and one antiviral I take after bareback sex if I am concerned about a partner. There are not studies on whether they work. I think that they do but I cannot prove it. The other big vaccine to take is Hepatitis be. Hepatitis be is 100 x more infectious than HIV.

I do not cum inside of them. What I do to prevent pregnancy is give them plan be or levonorgestrel 1. 5 grams all at once. It is like $3 in Colombia and you can buy it OTC. Levonorgestrel works by suppressing ovulation. If the ovum or egg is released in the Fallopian tube prior to your having sex, it does not work, so it is not 100%, but neither are condoms. Do not give it and have the woman say that she will take it later. Make sure that she takes it in front of you. It works for 3 days officially, it probably really works for 5.

If I am going to be with a girl a long time and see her again and again, I will either tell them to get an implant or give them or have them get a shot of medroxyprogesterone every 3 months. I think medroxyprogesterone is available over the counter in Colombia as well. It is almost impossible for them to get pregnant after the shot. Again, it is something I like to see injected myself.

One last thing to point out is that latex allergies are a real deal. No one wants to talk about this because the dermatitis associated with latex looks like a STD, but it is not. I have had this put on a steroid cream and the bumps went away. I have been tested for everything and it was not a STD. The bumps are common. Far less common is anaphylaxis but latex anaphylaxis is real and can be deadly.

As you can see, I am a helluva more concerned about pregnancy than STDs.

I know mine is a minority view, but I am skeptical of so much the government says about sex and did my own research. I am not recommending anyone follow my lead. But I have not had any issues when I follow my protocol.

YyzTravel
04-14-20, 21:25
The working women in Colombia are hyperparanoid about going bare. Apparently, the government scares the crap out of them about AIDS and condoms there. What I find is the regular women I have met on Seeking Arrangement are much more okay with it. I go bare with all of them are once I get to know them.

I have a regimen of two antibiotics and one antiviral I take after bareback sex if I am concerned about a partner. There are not studies on whether they work. I think that they do but I cannot prove it. The other big vaccine to take is Hepatitis be. Hepatitis be is 100 x more infectious than HIV.Elvis. Thanks for the thought out response! I'm not worried about the pregnancy, I got fixed quite a few years back and go back to check annually to ensure it sticks. Which antibiotics do you use? Also, you mentioned Seeking Arrangements. Is that the seeking dot com website I save seen? Looking to get a few Colombian girls lined up before I go and was curious if this was the best route over Colombia Cupid.

John Clayton
04-14-20, 22:09
...I have a regimen of two antibiotics and one antiviral I take after bareback sex if I am concerned about a partner. There are not studies on whether they work...

... What I do to prevent pregnancy is give them plan be or levonorgestrel 1. 5 grams all at once....

... and did my own research...What kind of "research"?

Frankly, you are a menace to public health.

Dcrist0527
04-14-20, 22:32
What kind of "research"?

Frankly, you are a menace to public health.The attacks here are getting to be a bit much. I think we all need to realize people have differing opinions and experiences. Just because they do not match your own opinions or conclusions, that doesn't mean it is wrong. Worse, taking things out of context or omitting important pieces. The OP was not trying to change your mind. Just the opposite.


I know mine is a minority view, but I am skeptical of so much the government says about sex and did my own research. I am not recommending anyone follow my lead. But I have not had any issues when I follow my protocol.He shared his experience. Will I change my practices? No. But I won't claim my opinion is more important or valuable. The OP has even spelled out his logic and why he came to that conclusion.

And no, I have no clue who the OP is. I have no relation to him (that I'm aware of LOL). And he is capable of speaking for himself. I'm just done with the personal attacks.

LeyenLouvain
04-14-20, 23:21
I do not cum inside of them. What I do to prevent pregnancy is give them plan be or levonorgestrel 1. 5 grams all at once. If you don't cum inside, are they confused about the need for the Plan B?

Elvis 2008
04-15-20, 02:12
If you don't cum inside, are they confused about the need for the Plan B?Actually most women are impressed that you care about not getting them pregnant. In fact, I prefer women take the plan be before sex.

I do not know about everyone else but I had a woman tell me when giving me a BBBJ that she could taste me cumming prematurely. I am not sure how common that is, but it seems like it is an issue with me.

Elvis 2008
04-15-20, 02:15
Frankly, you are a menace to public health.You're welcome!

Elvis 2008
04-15-20, 02:17
Which antibiotics do you use? Also, you mentioned Seeking Arrangements. Is that the seeking dot com website I save seen? Looking to get a few Colombian girls lined up before I go and was curious if this was the best route over Colombia Cupid.Yes, I use seeking.

I will send you a PM about the medications.

NeilGeorge
04-15-20, 02:45
As you can see, I am a helluva more concerned about pregnancy than STDs.
I have never had an STD. And 2 of the regular girls I have fucked a lot have all told me they had discovered they had an std. One said she had clamdidia and the other said she had Gonnahoria. I was tested for each and it was negative. Even if I were to get an Std I could use an antibiotic and get rid of it.

I would be more worried about getting a girl pregnant and paying child support for 18 years, for a kid I rarely could see.

John Clayton
04-15-20, 03:04
The attacks here are getting to be a bit much. I think we all need to realize people have differing opinions and experiences. Just because they do not match your own opinions or conclusions, that doesn't mean it is wrong...I was speaking as a (former) medical professional with a fairly long career in public health. Antibiotics are precious to humankind, and their casual, incorrect and indiscriminate use promotes antibiotic resistance.

Elvis 2008
04-15-20, 04:54
I'm going to say this and do not mean it to be judgmental. But if you BBFS, you inherently accept that risk. I'm not talking about the girls who trick men about being on the pill. But even that is a gray area. But talking about fake names, abandoning a girl in the country just doesn't feel right at all. I am really not trying to get on a high horse here. But I don't find a man shirking his responsibility acceptable. No offense meant here at all. I truly am not judging.I respect your opinion Dcrist. Here is mine. As long as women have the right to choose whether or not to have a child, a man not married to that woman should have the choice on whether he supports the child or not. By making support based on being a sperm donor versus a conscious choice made by a man, the courts of the Western world have demeaned and invalidated the value of marriage IMO. I think pro-choice is a two way street.

Elvis 2008
04-15-20, 05:03
I have been with enough now to make a difference, and I would like the input of others.

Vennies are more passionate in bed. Colombians are more compassionate, sweet lovers.

Vennies can be narcissistic and uncaring. Colombians are more caring.

This one is different but IMO Vennies are irrational with money (either too greedy or do not want to talk money at all). Colombians are more though not totally rational.

Vennies are better educated (due to free tuition). Colombians are more likely to work in their fields of study.

Vennies are more likely to go bareback than Colombians. Both are equally adept at giving head, but neither are as good as Brazilians.

Vennies are more likely to be hot. Colombians are more likely to be cute.

Because of the availability of credit, Colombians are likely to be in debt. Vennies usually have none.

Vennies are more likely to smoke, drink, and do drugs than Colombians.

Colombians make better girlfriends. Vennies are better fucks.

BodyAnybody
04-15-20, 05:09
I have been with enough now to make a difference, and I would like the input of others.

Vennies are more passionate in bed. Colombians are more compassionate, sweet lovers.

Vennies can be narcissistic and uncaring. Colombians are more caring.

This one is different but IMO Vennies are irrational with money (either too greedy or do not want to talk money at all). Colombians are more though not totally rational.

Vennies are better educated (due to free tuition). Colombians are more likely to work in their fields of study.

Vennies are more likely to go bareback than Colombians. Both are equally adept at giving head, but neither are as good as Brazilians.

Vennies are more likely to be hot. Colombians are more likely to be cute.

Because of the availability of credit, Colombians are likely to be in debt. Vennies usually have none.

Vennies are more likely to smoke, drink, and do drugs than Colombians.

Colombians make better girlfriends. Vennies are better fucks.Both sound fun, but if all this is more or less true, I think I'd prefer to shack up with a Colombiana for a week.

Mr Enternational
04-15-20, 07:14
I respect your opinion Dcrist. Here is mine. As long as women have the right to choose whether or not to have a child, a man not married to that woman should have the choice on whether he supports the child or not. By making support based on being a sperm donor versus a conscious choice made by a man, the courts of the Western world have demeaned and invalidated the value of marriage IMO. I think pro-choice is a two way street.I agree with some of what you said, but there are caveats. You seriously believe that if you willfully skeet inside a woman and her choice is to have the baby, then you should just be able to go about scott free? Accidents happen, but damn. That is where being a responsible adult comes in to play.

Things like this should be discussed before laying down with someone, but we know that does not happen. So after it happens you are left scrambling, instead of already having an agreement in place should the chick get pregnant. We want to fuck first and ask questions later. In addition, in every country it is not their right to choose whether or not to have the child.

There is also what if she does not want to have the kid but you do, as was the case of me and my daughter's mom. Should the woman then be forced to have the kid?

Dcrist0527
04-15-20, 15:08
I agree with some of what you said, but there are caveats. You seriously believe that if you willfully skeet inside a woman and her choice is to have the baby, then you should just be able to go about scott free? Accidents happen, but damn. That is where being a responsible adult comes in to play.

Things like this should be discussed before laying down with someone, but we know that does not happen. So after it happens you are left scrambling, instead of already having an agreement in place should the chick get pregnant. We want to fuck first and ask questions later. In addition, in every country it is not their right to choose whether or not to have the child.

There is also what if she does not want to have the kid but you do, as was the case of me and my daughter's mom. Should the woman then be forced to have the kid?I'm on the same page. Yes, somewhere along the way we put the entire decision in the woman's court. Whether a man wants a child, or not, is irrelevant. So to a point, I agree with Elvis. It is a two-way street. As Mr E says, ideally, there is discussion prior to. Obviously, that doesn't occur in our negotiations. But I do think there should be a basic understanding, as others have mentioned, about birth control if you are going bb. Now if a girl is lying, hey, she's on her own. And good luck trying to chase down a gringo a continent away. My conscience would be mostly clear. If no discussion ever occurs, then it is a shared responsibility, IMO. Same would go for an accident. What makes it more difficult is in most cases, you're probably not her only man that month. What a mess. I often regret using condoms for FS but conversations like these remind me why I do.

LoveItHere69
04-15-20, 16:22
Elvis 2008 why do you not just man up and get your nuts cut? Your amount of cum drop 3-5% so less mess. I believe around $800 in the USA so in another country probably $300.15 minutes operation. Simple, fast, cheap. Heal in a few days with minimal pain. One of the cheapest best things I have ever done. Peace of mind!

Balboa
04-15-20, 18:24
Elvis 2008 why do you not just man up and get your nuts cut? Your amount of cum drop 3-5% so less mess. I believe around $800 in the USA so in another country probably $300.15 minutes operation. Simple, fast, cheap. Heal in a few days with minimal pain. One of the cheapest best things I have ever done. Peace of mind!I remember getting it done 20 years ago in the USA.

Cost me $10 with insurance co-pay.

Best $10 I ever spent!

Balboa
04-15-20, 18:27
I have been with enough now to make a difference, and I would like the input of others.

Vennies are more passionate in bed. Colombians are more compassionate, sweet lovers.

Vennies can be narcissistic and uncaring. Colombians are more caring.

This one is different but IMO Vennies are irrational with money (either too greedy or do not want to talk money at all). Colombians are more though not totally rational.

Vennies are better educated (due to free tuition). Colombians are more likely to work in their fields of study.

Vennies are more likely to go bareback than Colombians. Both are equally adept at giving head, but neither are as good as Brazilians.

Vennies are more likely to be hot. Colombians are more likely to be cute.

Because of the availability of credit, Colombians are likely to be in debt. Vennies usually have none.

Vennies are more likely to smoke, drink, and do drugs than Colombians.

Colombians make better girlfriends. Vennies are better fucks.Haha great generalization!

Man I miss my days in Caracas!

Venezuela was sooooo good back in the day!

Uthred
04-17-20, 08:45
I remember getting it done 20 years ago in the USA.

Cost me $10 with insurance co-pay.

Best $10 I ever spent!I had it done about 10 years ago for free with my insurance and I have no regrets. But I have a question for the other mongers on here that have had this procedure. Did you notice cum volume go down a lot? I tried that stack that was recommended a few months ago by a few mongers that involved Zinc, Maca, and a whole bunch of other supplements. Long story short I am still taking them with absolutely zero results. Then I started thinking that maybe it has to do with my vasectomy. If the supps only deal with helping with sperm production then it's no good for guys like us. I'm also wondering if it's the reason why my testosterone levels are low.

Mr Enternational
04-17-20, 09:20
But I have a question for the other mongers on here that have had this procedure. Did you notice cum volume go down a lot?No idea. Since I have been able to skeet up in them and not get anyone pregnant, I have not seen it.

JjBee62
04-17-20, 14:05
No idea. Since I have been able to skeet up in them and not get anyone pregnant, I have not seen it.Unless you're overly obsessed with porn, how much doesn't much matter. There probably aren't too many hookers complaining because there isn't enough semen in their hair.

Fun Luvr
04-17-20, 15:50
But I have a question for the other mongers on here that have had this procedure. Did you notice cum volume go down a lot? ... I'm also wondering if it's the reason why my testosterone levels are low.I had it done more than 30 years ago. I didn't notice a difference in the volume, but noticed a slight decrease in desire for sex. When I had it done, the cost was $400, and my insurance paid the whole thing. I guess they figured that was cheaper than paying for a pregnancy.

NeilGeorge
04-18-20, 03:52
She wants me to knock her up and have a child. I think its OK, I paid for her fake tits 15 years ago. Any advice? I know I would pay child support and she would want to stay in Colombia to be with her family, but that is OK with me because we only get along for about a week and then she doesn't want to be with me and vice versa.

Mr Enternational
04-18-20, 06:17
She wants me to knock her up and have a child. I think its OK, I paid for her fake tits 15 years ago. Any advice? I know I would pay child support and she would want to stay in Colombia to be with her family, but that is OK with me because we only get along for about a week and then she doesn't want to be with me and vice versa.If you paid for tits 15 years ago, it would stand to reason that this lady is at least 35 and you are probably older. You failed to mention WHY she wants to have a child. Does she have any other children? Does she have a stable income and a stable household? Or is she just sitting in the house bored and wants a new toy? If something happened to you, would she be able to care for the child?

Every chick that I fuck (pro and nonpro alike) I make them say they they love me and want my baby (only because I know that I can't have any.) I was just talking to a chick in Bogota 1 hour ago and she said it. Here in Thailand, ex-hooker that spent the night last night, she said it. I know it is an ego boost or whatever, but there is no way I would seriously think about having a kid with a woman unless I was going to be in the kid's life on a daily basis and had a good relationship with the mother, both of which you already said would not happen in your case. I would also have to know that she was a smart, self-supporting woman and not a fucking idiot.

A friend of mine is a Phd and in the early 2000's she would always beg me to have a kid with her and I would not have to worry about taking care of it. That kind of woman, yes, I would do it for. But I would still insist on being in my child's life and caring for it. She also wanted me to be her boyfriend and said she would pay my child support for the daughter that I already have (who is now an adult of 23 years old). I told her no thanks. I did not want those type of strings. I was satisfied to be on a friends with benefits basis. To this day she still does not have kids.

I argue with these women all the time saying it does not matter if the man is there. Easy for you to fucking say. If you had a father and a whole other side of the family would you not want them in your life? All you are doing is cheating the damn kid, especially when you can't half take care of them on your own. They are like my kid is happy. It is a fucking kid; it does not know what is good for them or how to raise itself. If you fed him hotdogs everyday since birth he would be happy with that too, because that is all he knows. That does not make it a good idea or smart thing to do. Hell, he would eat pizza for breakfast, lunch, and dinner unless you stopped him. You are already starting off as a sorry ass parent if you believe the child does not need the other parent. This having kids all willy nilly has to stop, but of course it never will. As humans, we serve no other real purpose other than to make more humans.

P.S. If you were just in it to see how the child would look, then they probably have computer programs for that!

Combo
04-18-20, 17:14
She wants me to knock her up and have a child. I think its OK, I paid for her fake tits 15 years ago. Any advice? I know I would pay child support and she would want to stay in Colombia to be with her family, but that is OK with me because we only get along for about a week and then she doesn't want to be with me and vice versa.The doctor did a good job with her tits. Usually I don't like fake tits, but those look really nice.

LoveItHere69
04-19-20, 04:42
Long story short I am still taking them with absolutely zero results. Then I started thinking that maybe it has to do with my vasectomy. If the supps only deal with helping with sperm production then it's no good for guys like us. I'm also wondering if it's the reason why my testosterone levels are low.Done age 38. Volume supposed to drop 3-8% roughly (1st question I asked the doctor). I had not noticed any real difference in horniness. Age 49 now. This last year my power has dropped. One girl a day and I am good (but not happy). Some days hard to get hard. Have not taken anything or had testosterone level tested. My Cialis / Viagra meds are not working. BUT my supplier had a quality control problem once before. I will try new pills and then get testosterone level checked. It better not be old age at 49!

TjBrazil
04-19-20, 10:24
Done age 38. Volume supposed to drop 3-8% roughly (1st question I asked the doctor). I had not noticed any real difference in horniness. Age 49 now. This last year my power has dropped. One girl a day and I am good (but not happy). Some days hard to get hard. Have not taken anything or had testosterone level tested. My Cialis / Viagra meds are not working. BUT my supplier had a quality control problem once before. I will try new pills and then get testosterone level checked. It better not be old age at 49!I had my testosterone checked last year. It's a pathetic 300, but I have no problem getting an erection unless I use a condom, which is why I'm getting a vasectomy soon. Its time.

Uthred
04-19-20, 10:36
Done age 38. Volume supposed to drop 3-8% roughly (1st question I asked the doctor). I had not noticed any real difference in horniness. Age 49 now. This last year my power has dropped. One girl a day and I am good (but not happy). Some days hard to get hard. Have not taken anything or had testosterone level tested. My Cialis / Viagra meds are not working. BUT my supplier had a quality control problem once before. I will try new pills and then get testosterone level checked. It better not be old age at 49!The testosterone thing is a real deal. The best way I can explain it is like this: Imagine that you started a warehouse job in your younger years. Each year one of the light-bulbs in the warehouse goes out. 20 years later there are 20 that are burnt out but you fail to notice the difference because you adjusted to it gradually. Then one night someone replaces those bulbs and you come in that morning and bam! You realize what it used to be like when it was super bright. That's how I felt when I got on the testosterone treatments. I felt like a brand new man. Prior to that I pretty much got used to feeling like shit and thought it was normal due to age. Well my testosterone levels were less than a teenage girl when I got tested. You should do the same man. And don't let the doc tell you that it's normal for your age. They give women hormones when they get older and go through menopause but have a hard time doing it to men when they go through andropause. It's bullshit and makes absolutely no sense.

JjBee62
04-19-20, 15:51
The testosterone thing is a real deal. The best way I can explain it is like this: Imagine that you started a warehouse job in your younger years. Each year one of the light-bulbs in the warehouse goes out. 20 years later there are 20 that are burnt out but you fail to notice the difference because you adjusted to it gradually. Then one night someone replaces those bulbs and you come in that morning and bam! You realize what it used to be like when it was super bright. That's how I felt when I got on the testosterone treatments. I felt like a brand new man. Prior to that I pretty much got used to feeling like shit and thought it was normal due to age. Well my testosterone levels were less than a teenage girl when I got tested. You should do the same man. And don't let the doc tell you that it's normal for your age. They give women hormones when they get older and go through menopause but have a hard time doing it to men when they go through andropause. It's bullshit and makes absolutely no sense.It makes perfect sense. You ever live with a woman going through menopause? It's like the entire psych ward all inhabiting one body. After 30 minutes you'll be feeding her whatever drugs will help.

Uthred
04-19-20, 19:38
It makes perfect sense. You ever live with a woman going through menopause? It's like the entire psych ward all inhabiting one body. After 30 minutes you'll be feeding her whatever drugs will help.Thank God I have not! But I hear the stories from friends that have wives that are going through the shit. I'm all set!!

Elvis 2008
04-20-20, 16:37
Oil went down 42% today, and it is selling at $10 a barrel. That is Colombia's #1 export. That should mean we see the high COP: dollar ratio sticking out a while.

Combo
04-20-20, 23:58
Oil went down 42% today, and it is selling at $10 a barrel. That is Colombia's #1 export. That should mean we see the high COP: dollar ratio sticking out a while.

May Crude Futures closed way below zero -- meaning you actually have to pay someone to take delivery of the oil. I know the weaker Col Peso is good for us (assuming we can get there), but the economic misery this will cause for Colombia (and other countries that depend on exporting oil) is scary.

We are living in surreal times.

JjBee62
04-21-20, 00:04
May Crude Futures closed way below zero -- meaning you actually have to pay someone to take delivery of the oil. I know the weaker Col Peso is good for us (assuming we can get there), but the economic misery this will cause for Colombia (and other countries that depend on exporting oil) is scary.

We are living in surreal times.Wish I had an empty 50,000 gallon oil storage tank right now.

Combo
04-21-20, 01:37
Wish I had an empty 50,000 gallon oil storage tank right now.Yup. May futures settled at -37.63. June futures at +20.43. You could lock in a nice spread.

LeyenLouvain
04-21-20, 11:09
I know the weaker Col Peso is good for us (assuming we can get there), but the economic misery this will cause for Colombia (and other countries that depend on exporting oil) is scary.
Maybe not so good for us if economic misery means more violent crime on the streets.

Uthred
04-22-20, 12:13
Yup. May futures settled at -37.63. June futures at +20.43. You could lock in a nice spread.Is there a platform one can use or do you have someone handling this kind of stuff for you? I want to get in on the action. I'm in on crypto but would like some more diversity.

Zeos1
04-22-20, 14:32
Is there a platform one can use or do you have someone handling this kind of stuff for you? I want to get in on the action. I'm in on crypto but would like some more diversity.LOL. I can tell you would do well with futures.

Nounce
04-22-20, 20:14
Is there a platform one can use or do you have someone handling this kind of stuff for you? I want to get in on the action. I'm in on crypto but would like some more diversity.If my understanding is correct, that is not a spread you could trade or you want to trade. The May contract expired yesterday so I don't see how one can make the spread work among the panic in a very short window.

Uthred
04-22-20, 21:26
If my understanding is correct, that is not a spread you could trade or you want to trade. The May contract expired yesterday so I don't see how one can make the spread work among the panic in a very short window.It just feels like one of those situations where you "buy when there's blood in the streets" as the saying goes. The worst that can happen is that you lose some cash. Or you can make some serious profits. By the way I am not talking about pulling out of my 457 or savings account to make such a reckless move, it's more of a lets play around with things and see what happens. I already kicked myself in the ass when I didn't get in on bitcoin earlier in the year when it was under 4 k. I know it's a different market but I have seen it over and over for myself. I say damn why didn't I get in? I just have a feeling that in 2 years I will be saying the same thing about oil.

Zeos1
04-23-20, 01:00
It just feels like one of those situations where you "buy when there's blood in the streets" as the saying goes. The worst that can happen is that you lose some cash. Or you can make some serious profits. By the way I am not talking about pulling out of my 457 or savings account to make such a reckless move, it's more of a lets play around with things and see what happens. I already kicked myself in the ass when I didn't get in on bitcoin earlier in the year when it was under 4 k. I know it's a different market but I have seen it over and over for myself. I say damn why didn't I get in? I just have a feeling that in 2 years I will be saying the same thing about oil.You might be. Or you might not. I wouldn't rush in myself. I've been a small investor in oil for many years. Certainly a lot smaller now than when I invested. And there have been other times where there has been "blood on the streets" in the oil market. But then it goes to "more blood on the streets". It's possible that oil might never come back to what it was. Or to anything close. There are scenarios under which that might happen. And any particular investment choice you make could end up being worth nothing. More likely is that someday some of these companies might be worth something more than they are now. Now there's an investment plan.

Uthred
04-23-20, 12:07
You might be. Or you might not. I wouldn't rush in myself. I've been a small investor in oil for many years. Certainly a lot smaller now than when I invested. And there have been other times where there has been "blood on the streets" in the oil market. But then it goes to "more blood on the streets". It's possible that oil might never come back to what it was. Or to anything close. There are scenarios under which that might happen. And any particular investment choice you make could end up being worth nothing. More likely is that someday some of these companies might be worth something more than they are now. Now there's an investment plan."More blood on the streets". I can see that being a possibility. Basically it's like hitting the roulette tables in Vegas LOL. Thanks for the advice.

Nounce
04-23-20, 19:46
"More blood on the streets". I can see that being a possibility. Basically it's like hitting the roulette tables in Vegas LOL. Thanks for the advice.The shale oil producers tanked so much that some have gone up 40% since the March low. The stock price is so low that you can just buy them for the long term with less risk associated with the future. I don't think there is a need to rush to buy.

Combo
04-24-20, 00:37
Is there a platform one can use or do you have someone handling this kind of stuff for you? I want to get in on the action. I'm in on crypto but would like some more diversity.The specific example I gave is irrelevant now as the May contract expired on Tuesday. However, there's a rational reason the May contract traded well below zero. These are physically-deliverable commodities. If you are long the contract and you can't sell if before expiration, you have to take delivery. And to take delivery, you have to have an empty storage facility in Cushing, OK. Absent that, you could maybe transport the crude somewhere else where you had a facility (to a tanker at open sea is one alternative). Absent being fortunate enough to have an empty storage facility in Cushing, it's going to be very expensive to take that oil. Expensive enough that people were willing to pay you to take that hot potato off their hands.

EliottSpitzer
05-01-20, 03:20
How much of a nuisance is it to get BBFS from pros in Bogota or Medellin?

I'm assuming it's not as convenient as in the Philippines where I feel like it's standard.

In Thailand I have to run around asking a lot but the success rate is acceptable.I've gotten BBFS and bb anal from girls in Bogota on every trip. Sometimes it takes a little longer than others, but not always. My last time in Santa Fe I banged a stunning 20 year old Venezuelan chica BBFS bb anal with CIM. Each additional thing was like 50 K COP. I think I gave her like 180 total plus the 30 for the room. Had her email but I haven't heard from her in over a year.

AddisDude
05-03-20, 12:21
I've gotten BBFS and bb anal from girls in Bogota on every trip. Sometimes it takes a little longer than others, but not always. My last time in Santa Fe I banged a stunning 20 year old Venezuelan chica BBFS bb anal with CIM. Each additional thing was like 50 K COP. I think I gave her like 180 total plus the 30 for the room. Had her email but I haven't heard from her in over a year.I am not into BB Anal but I can confirm I have had few BBFS on first meeting in Bogota.

WerkTreue
05-09-20, 03:08
Hello all,

So I was originally planning to visit Colombia in June and July. It's my understand that I would have been able to fly into the country but everything would have been closed. What would be the point of going if I couldn't find lovely chicas. I postponed my trip to 2021. I wanted to share an email I received from a local tour guide that helped me make my decision:

"It is difficult to get a straight answer as we also do not have the full picture here. But I try to give you a better understanding of the current situation in Colombia. 2 days ago the general quarantine was prolonged until the 25/5. National airlines told me, that they will take up operation on 31/5 again. The government said that also after the quarantine strong measures will stay in place. So it is not sure when people can travel within the country again. Most likely traveling within the country will be very restricted for some more time. Currently traveling from one town to another is not permitted.

My opinion is that also after the quarantine we will not be able to move freely within the country for at least another month. By when national parks, movie theaters, museums and nightlife will start their operation again is in the stars. I feel that we will face very strong restrictions for at least until end of August. I also postponed all my client trips until and with August to next year. Some of my local providers told me that they will not open before November. Also we do not know yet when intercontinental flights will arrive again to Colombia. ".

I'm sure all why'all are dealing with different situations and the difficulties of these messed up pandemic. I hope to see you in Colombia in 2021.

John Gault
05-09-20, 12:26
It was bad enough being old before this fucking virus. Now consider this. Older people it appears have a stronger chance of dying if they catch the virus. That is a given but I have heard no one mention the time factor. It would seem it may be next year before things return to normal. OK if your 40 years old that is not really that bad. Try that on for example if you are 74.

I am not looking for sympathy. Believe this or not I'm trying to make the younger guys on the forum look at the bright side as they have many more years ahead of them to partake of the festivities.

I'm still strong and not scared to get back in the arena. Put me in coach.

Lefeu
05-09-20, 12:58
...So I was originally planning to visit Colombia in June and July. It's my understand that I would have been able to fly into the country but everything would have been closed. What would be the point of going if I couldn't find lovely chicas. I postponed my trip to 2021. I wanted to share an email I received from a local tour guide that helped me make my decision:...Thanks for the feedback. Not good, but realistic. A buddy of mine has scheduled a trip for September later this year, but he is ready for a 14-day confinement stay. He usually goes there for months at a time. As for me, I don't want to go through the 14-day confinement stay, as I usually stay only 2 weeks.

Elvis 2008
05-09-20, 20:39
It was bad enough being old before this fucking virus. Now consider this. Older people it appears have a stronger chance of dying if they catch the virus. That is a given but I have heard no one mention the time factor. It would seem it may be next year before things return to normal. OK if your 40 years old that is not really that bad. Try that on for example if you are 74.

I am not looking for sympathy. Believe this or not I'm trying to make the younger guys on the forum look at the bright side as they have many more years ahead of them to partake of the festivities.

I'm still strong and not scared to get back in the arena. Put me in coach.Yeah, JG, I am beyond frustrated with how this whole thing has been handled. First, we were told social distancing was supposed to flatten the curve. Great, mission accomplished. Thing is that there was no plan after that. Now, social distancing is being touted as life saving when it was NEVER intended or proven to do that and now that people including the Colombian government have had the shit scared out of them, they are reluctant to go back to normal. The media is doing the same thing as they have with AIDS and heterosexuals, touting that young people can die from Covid too even though it is so rare for that to happen.

Peru locked down much more brutally and strongly than Colombia did, and have you seen the difference in cases between the two? Peru has 60,000 cases and Colombia, with a population of 20 million more people, has 10,000. If it is all about social distancing, why is that? BECAUSE IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT SOCIAL DISTANCING!!

If you have been to Lima, you know that every day is the same. Look at the weather: https://www.google.com/search?q=humidity+in+lima+peru&rlz=1 C1 CHBF_enMX893 MX893&oq=humidity+in+lima&aqs=chrome. 0. 0 j69 i57 j0 l6. 3055 j1 j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.

It is always like this. The temperature and humidity are constant. If you want to grow fucking anything, this is the kind of weather you want.

Compare that to Bogota. Shit, you have sun one hour, then rain the next, 45 degrees one hour and 70 a few hours later and low oxygen content due to the altitude. In Bogota, you have to have layers of clothes and an umbrella. I asked one on my chicas why she was caring an umbrella when it was sunny out, and she looked at me like I was crazy, "Because it is Bogota", she said and sure enough it started raining shortly after. This is a horrible climate to grow most things.

Thing is Lima and Bogota are both bad air pollution wise, both bad when it comes to population density.

Do we even need to predict what pols in Bogota and Colombia are going to say as to why they have been hit so much less than Lima and Peru? Of course, it is because they did such a bangup fucking job, and they are going to keep at it. I am so frustrated.

What needs to be done with the virus is to accept that it is super contagious and going to spread. Allow your low risk people to be exposed so herd immunity develops. A vaccine is fantasy land right now. Isolate the sick. Isolate those at high risk and let the rest of us either go about our business or take our chances. I do not get why Covid is so much worse than other diseases given the most recent data we have. What is the alternative? Texas opened up May 1, and we have not seen the explosion of cases so far. Do you know what I am seeing now that I have not before? Traffic. I actually missed traffic. It meant people were up alive and doing.

I do not understand this isolation bullshit if you come in from abroad when the virus is spreading domestically but if someone is doing it, everyone is. Here in Texas, you have to self-isolate if you come in from places like NYC, Miami, or Atlanta. A Colombian chica of mine had to self-isolate when she got back from Mexico, which at the time was a very low risk area. The government called her several times to check on her.

Maybe if you have a test + for antibodies, you do not have to self-isolate. Never mind the fact that many of those tests are shit. Maybe that will be the way back in sooner rather than later.

I just offered to fly a 24 year old from Alabama here to Texas. She didn't want to fly because of the virus. At age 24. How fucked up is that? A 24 year old afraid to fly means the world has gone full xxxx now.

I am going to push my tickets way back into the fall now. I predicted June or July for flying into Colombia to resume and I still think that, but that is going to be with quarantines it looks like.

People are still worried about heterosexual AIDS still. It is going to be years for things to get back to normal now over a super contagious virus that just so happens to be no deadlier than the flu in most people. Jesus. And for what?

Great Muta
05-10-20, 23:08
What's the full name of the site named "SA"? I'm new at this and had never heard of it.

Mr Enternational
05-11-20, 00:22
What's the full name of the site named "SA"? I'm new at this and had never heard of it.Seeking Arrangement.

Questner
05-11-20, 01:41
Avianca has filed bankruptcy.

BayBoy
05-11-20, 19:54
Avianca has filed bankruptcy.I'm afraid Copa is next.

Great Muta
05-11-20, 23:51
Seeking Arrangement.Thanks, I appreciate it.

Great Muta
05-14-20, 18:39
I sent 3 webcam girls money down there over about 4 months for photos / videos. Not too much about 30 k-40 k pesos each.

Anyway, when I went to send the 3rd girl money by Western Union, the clerk started asking me if I knew these people and seemed suspicious that I was sending to another person.

Does anyone have any experiences with this? Did I get flagged or something?

BodyAnybody
05-14-20, 18:46
I sent 3 webcam girls money down there over about 4 months for photos / videos. Not too much about 30 k-40 k pesos each.

Anyway, when I went to send the 3rd girl money by Western Union, the clerk started asking me if I knew these people and seemed suspicious that I was sending to another person.

Does anyone have any experiences with this? Did I get flagged or something?Its none of his business. If a western union clerk asks you questions like that, remind him that it's not his business.

ChuchoLoco
05-14-20, 19:52
I sent 3 webcam girls money down there over about 4 months for photos / videos. Not too much about 30 k-40 k pesos each.

Anyway, when I went to send the 3rd girl money by Western Union, the clerk started asking me if I knew these people and seemed suspicious that I was sending to another person.

Does anyone have any experiences with this? Did I get flagged or something?Yes,

They are very restrictive when they notice frequent money being sent to certain places. I was blocked online and they wanted lots of information to allow me to send again. Didn't do it. Not worth it and best not to send anyway. I never sent much but nothing is less and better.

Elvis 2008
05-14-20, 20:17
I sent 3 webcam girls money down there over about 4 months for photos / videos. Not too much about 30 k-40 k pesos each.

Anyway, when I went to send the 3rd girl money by Western Union, the clerk started asking me if I knew these people and seemed suspicious that I was sending to another person.

Does anyone have any experiences with this? Did I get flagged or something?WU has been well known to be used by fraudsters the world over. Thing that has surprised me if you use credit cards is you just say I didn't use my card for that, and the charge has been taken down. Even one time when I had proof I provided a service to the customer, the bank took the customer's side and refunded his money which REALLY pissed me off. I think WU is very vulnerable to being seen as accessories to fraud.

Fun Luvr
05-14-20, 20:59
I sent 3 webcam girls money down there over about 4 months for photos / videos. Not too much about 30 k-40 k pesos each.

Anyway, when I went to send the 3rd girl money by Western Union, the clerk started asking me if I knew these people and seemed suspicious that I was sending to another person.

Does anyone have any experiences with this? Did I get flagged or something?


Its none of his business. If a western union clerk asks you questions like that, remind him that it's not his business.They make it their business. I was blocked by three money transfer companies, but WU wasn't one of them. I don't use WU. I was buying an apartment and was sending money to someone who was doing the transactions for me. I sent less than $1,000 each time because one of the clerks told me $1,000 and over will trigger a review. I think she was correct because it took two of them about a month to block me. The third one refused the initial transfer. In the mean time, I had sent enough to cover the initial payment. The first one gave me different excuses, like because of fraud in Colombia and that I didn't have a relative there. I filed a complaint with the state about them. They responded to the state that their software indicated it was a romance scam.

Zeos1
05-14-20, 21:59
Its none of his business. If a western union clerk asks you questions like that, remind him that it's not his business.LOL. It is their business. That's the point. They don't have to send your money or anyone else's money if they don't want to. And they are very suspicious a lot of the time because of drug money, fraud, etc.

JonSnow1
05-14-20, 23:58
Perhaps using Western Union online would work better. No clerks to deal with and the recipient receives confirmation. They do have limits on accounts though.

I personally recommend Remitely.com. Recipient receives a text confirmation and picks up at a Colombian Bank with cedula. Or if they have a bank account, it can be transferred directly to the account. Lower transaction cost than Western Union. Would suggest BBVA as it's a more simple process than BanColombia.


I sent 3 webcam girls money down there over about 4 months for photos / videos. Not too much about 30 k-40 k pesos each.

Anyway, when I went to send the 3rd girl money by Western Union, the clerk started asking me if I knew these people and seemed suspicious that I was sending to another person.

Does anyone have any experiences with this? Did I get flagged or something?

Radar99
05-15-20, 10:18
LOL. It is their business. That's the point. They don't have to send your money or anyone else's money if they don't want to. And they are very suspicious a lot of the time because of drug money, fraud, etc.Even if clarifications is given by the person, do they harass in the same way? It's really weird because it's a personal choice.

CzarNicholas
05-15-20, 23:29
https://colombiareports.com/the-positive-side-of-colombia-ambassador-can-drink-two-families-monthly-income-in-just-one-lunch/

Hotbreadrises
05-16-20, 22:58
I found a woman on Craigslist Colombia, promoting her friends while lock down goes there, pretty girls and really hot. Search her, her name is Estef Gutierrez, owner of Tours By Locals Medellin.

YippieKayay
05-18-20, 23:23
I sent 3 webcam girls money down there over about 4 months for photos / videos. Not too much about 30 k-40 k pesos each.

Anyway, when I went to send the 3rd girl money by Western Union, the clerk started asking me if I knew these people and seemed suspicious that I was sending to another person.

Does anyone have any experiences with this? Did I get flagged or something?It's called Smurfing. Were you doing lots of small transactions? He was checking for money laundering and being a financial institution they are supposed to do that.

Zeos1
05-19-20, 01:19
Even if clarifications is given by the person, do they harass in the same way? It's really weird because it's a personal choice.Going back a few years I was sending money regularly to a novia in another country. About every 3rd time it would get flagged. I would have to phone some number somewhere and talk to their fraud or whatever department and eventually they would release the money. They would not say what was flagged as that was confidential as it was part of their security system. They might ask odd questions sometimes but basically wanted to make sure I personally knew the person I was sending the money to, and there was a reasonable reason I would be sending money.

In hindsight I wish they could have stopped me.

Mr Enternational
05-19-20, 02:33
It's called Smurfing. Were you doing lots of small transactions? He was checking for money laundering and being a financial institution they are supposed to do that.Thanks for teaching me something.

A commonly used money laundering method, smurfing involves the use of multiple individuals and / or multiple transactions for making cash deposits, buying monetary instruments or bank drafts in amounts under the reporting threshold. . See Smurfing.

https://www.acams.org index-s.


Going back a few years I was sending money regularly to a novia in another country. About every 3rd time it would get flagged.
In hindsight I wish they could have stopped me.LOL.. You know they could not have stopped you if they wanted to. The same as every other guy on here insisting on sending money to chicks.

Arcangel
05-19-20, 16:55
Even though anything the US government says these days is likely a mix of fact and fake, I hope some readers stuck in Colombia will find this announcement helpful.

https://co.usembassy.gov/alert-humanitarian-flights-from-bogota-may-26-cali-cartagena-may-28-and-medellin-may-30-spirit-airlines/

Alert: Humanitarian Flights from Bogota (May 26), Cali / Cartagena (May 28), and Medellin (May 30) – Spirit Airlines.

Great Muta
05-19-20, 17:29
It's called Smurfing. Were you doing lots of small transactions? He was checking for money laundering and being a financial institution they are supposed to do that.I've done three transactions total for $30, $50 and $30 to separate models.

I guess I can see why they think that, but I'm just a pervert trying to get some nudes haha.

YyzTravel
05-19-20, 21:11
After reading about all this Western Union, curious as to why you guys are still using it? Most of the girls I know now are on Venmo, Zelle, PayPal, etc.

MarquisdeSade1
05-19-20, 23:08
Can anyone suggest help for thinning hair, I tried Rogaine and Propecia, both have boner and libido side effects.

I heard about transplants or plugs, I'm guessing these are quite expensive options.

TIA.

Mr Enternational
05-20-20, 00:38
Can anyone suggest help for thinning hair, I tried Rogaine and Propecia, both have boner and libido side effects.

I heard about transplants or plugs, I'm guessing these are quite expensive options.Heads full of hair run in my family. But a show that I watch advertises using this: Finesteride & Minoxidil. You can get it at forhims.com.

It is also said that using Monistat 7 and castor oil will make your hair grow.

My buddy went to Turkey to get a hair transplant. I think he had to go 2 times for $2000 each. He showed me the pictures. Looked painful as shit.

Bango Cheito
05-20-20, 09:39
Heads full of hair run in my family. But a show that I watch advertises using this: Finesteride & Minoxidil. You can get it at forhims.com.

It is also said that using Monistat 7 and castor oil will make your hair grow.

My buddy went to Turkey to get a hair transplant. I think he had to go 2 times for $2000 each. He showed me the pictures. Looked painful as shit.Honestly BOG and MDE are probably the best places on earth for any kind of aesthetic medicine. Let me know if you're interested and I'll look up further details.

Elvis 2008
05-20-20, 22:49
After reading about all this Western Union, curious as to why you guys are still using it? Most of the girls I know now are on Venmo, Zelle, PayPal, etc.Venmo and Zelle don't work internationally. Women could not access Paypal funds for weeks. Xoom is an international paypal service which is okay, but they questioned too many transfers, and I got sick of them. WU is king. It is a pain to set up, but once you have it rolling, it is smooth. I use it online and women can pick up cash in minutes. With one of my women, I linked her bank account so she didn't have to leave the house. That transfer wasn't immediate but took 2 days.

TomJackin
05-20-20, 23:33
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colombia-follows-argentina-banning-international-180501026.html

Colombia is now following Argentina's regs.

YippieKayay
05-21-20, 05:17
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colombia-follows-argentina-banning-international-180501026.html

Colombia is now following Argentina's regs.And the official number of new cases every day is rising every day (as per the Colombian Health Ministry). This is exactly how things snowballed in Brazil. End of August is actually pretty optimistic.

Bango Cheito
05-24-20, 05:59
And the official number of new cases every day is rising every day (as per the Colombian Health Ministry). This is exactly how things snowballed in Brazil. End of August is actually pretty optimistic.Still only 20 k confirmed cases. They have been way too restrictive.

Radar99
05-25-20, 03:00
Still only 20 k confirmed cases. They have been way too restrictive.I would say less testing being done anyways.

Radar99
05-25-20, 03:02
Going back a few years I was sending money regularly to a novia in another country. About every 3rd time it would get flagged. I would have to phone some number somewhere and talk to their fraud or whatever department and eventually they would release the money. They would not say what was flagged as that was confidential as it was part of their security system. They might ask odd questions sometimes but basically wanted to make sure I personally knew the person I was sending the money to, and there was a reasonable reason I would be sending money.

In hindsight I wish they could have stopped me.Which country was it and was the amount very large?

Zeos1
05-25-20, 16:30
Which country was it and was the amount very large?Country was Costa are. Amounts always less than 6-700 dollars.

Bango Cheito
05-27-20, 10:38
I would say less testing being done anyways.But less than 1 k deaths almost 3 months after patient zero. And there are several horrible scandals regarding false positives, and deaths from other causes being attributed to the virus.

It's almost like they WANT this to be more serious than it is.

JjBee62
05-27-20, 18:14
But less than 1 k deaths almost 3 months after patient zero. And there are several horrible scandals regarding false positives, and deaths from other causes being attributed to the virus.

It's almost like they WANT this to be more serious than it is.Interesting question:

If someone is laying in an ICU, being kept alive by machines, with the doctors just waiting for a signature from the next of kin to pull the plug, and while the papers are being signed I walk in and shoot the person, what was the cause of death?

They had stage 4 cancer, they were already effectively dead. I only sped things up by a few seconds. Yet for some reason, I'd end up in prison. Strange.

While I can't speak for Colombia, there are no scandals in the US about deaths being wrongly attributed to COVID-19. There are a lot of conspiracy theories about that happening but not one shred of evidence and there is no motive for hospitals to do this. In fact, due to numerous laws, it would be incredibly stupid and expensive for hospitals to start wrongfully attributing deaths to COVID-19.

Have you ever visited a nursing home or assisted living facility? I've had to visit a few over the years. Not my favorite thing to do, but there are family duties. There are always a lot of residents who are approaching the end of life. It can be grim. Usually, every week or 2, one of the residents will die. That's just the way of things. They die from many different causes.

Now consider a small town nursing home. About 50 residents and roughly as many staff. One day, an otherwise healthy resident begins experiencing symptoms and a few hours later they're at the local hospital in ICU on a ventilator. They are tested for COVID-19 and 4 days later, on the day they die, results come back positive.

Immediately, everyone at the nursing home is tested, residents and staff. Over half test positive. Within 2 weeks 15 of the residents die. Four others lasted a little longer. 19.19 out of about 50 at risk people dead. All with symptoms of COVID-19, all with positive results for COVID-19.

Perhaps that doesn't sound serious to you. It's probably just some exaggeration, some conspiracy to topple governments and install a new world order. Perhaps.

To me it sounds serious. I knew those people. The first to die was my closest living ancestor. Several of the others were the mothers and fathers of my high school classmates. Others worked in the local stores and restaurants, when I was growing up. Four months ago I could have told any of them my name and they would know me, my parents grandparents and cousins.

I sincerely hope that you never have it shoved in your face, through personal loss, that this is serious. It is.

Elvis 2008
05-27-20, 22:07
Still only 20 k confirmed cases. They have been way too restrictive.Yeah, I get why Colombia and Peru did what they did. They had so few ICU and ventilators and went into an immediate and thorough lockdown, the opposite of Sweden. So whereas Sweden is seeing a decline in new cases, Colombia and Peru are still going up. By flattening the curve so much, it seems like the virus is going to take longer to burn itself out in these countries.

I am still at the no one knows nothing stage, but I did see some studies showing masks are good, travel is bad, social distancing is good, and lockdowns were horrible and unnecessary but destroyed economies, but I think it has gotten to the point where there are so many conflicting reports, you can justify any POV.

Paulie97
05-28-20, 06:18
I am still at the no one knows nothing stageExcellent. We could do much better if we translated this to the "you know nothing" stage the we have a start.

Questner
05-29-20, 04:38
International flights to / from Colombia to resume from September 1, 2020.

Elvis 2008
05-29-20, 05:16
We could do much better if we translated this to the "you know nothing" stage the we have a start.

And Thank God, we have people like you who have it all figured out.

It is funny how I do not remember your opinion on anything.

DonCarlos1234
05-29-20, 05:21
International flights to / from Colombia to resume from September 1, 2020.I see published fares LAS to Bogota are $350 ish on Google. Anyone know about customs letting us in? Mexico is no problem.

Elvis 2008
05-29-20, 05:25
I see published fares LAS to Bogota are $350 ish on Google. Anyone know about customs letting us in? Mexico is no problem.DC, just because flights are resuming, there still may be quarantines in play. Also, as of now, you do need to be going to Mexico for essential non-recreational purposes or at least say you are.

Zeos1
05-29-20, 15:07
DC, just because flights are resuming, there still may be quarantines in play. Also, as of now, you do need to be going to Mexico for essential non-recreational purposes or at least say you are.Agree.

And how many times have flights been shown as available, only to be cancelled closer to the time. Some have gone through the cycle of booking, paying, flight cancelled, now are trying to manage their refunds / flight credits / whatever the airlines are required to do, or willing to do.

Virtually every airline in the world is bankrupt or on the verge of bankruptcy. I'm not about to book anything where I have to pay and then fight to get my money back.

Beavis
05-29-20, 16:01
Agree.

And how many times have flights been shown as available, only to be cancelled closer to the time. Some have gone through the cycle of booking, paying, flight cancelled, now are trying to manage their refunds / flight credits / whatever the airlines are required to do, or willing to do.

Virtually every airline in the world is bankrupt or on the verge of bankruptcy. I'm not about to book anything where I have to pay and then fight to get my money back.The good thing is you might be able to purchase a flight at a bargain and use later. However it's like the extended warranty on a new vehicle, unless you read all of the fine lines you will get rammed. I want to return to the USA in September and right now there are some great deals, however until these flights actually start happening I would refrain from clicking on the "Purchase Now" tab unless the flight was completely refundable. Eventually all countries are going to have to face the reality that deaths are going to occur because of Covid and either relax their regulations or watch their economies go down the tubes. It is going to be interesting.

Mr Enternational
05-29-20, 17:01
The good thing is you might be able to purchase a flight at a bargain and use later. However it's like the extended warranty on a new vehicle, unless you read all of the fine lines you will get rammed. I want to return to the USA in September and right now there are some great deals, however until these flights actually start happening I would refrain from clicking on the "Purchase Now" tab unless the flight was completely refundable. That still means nothing when someone is bankrupt.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/easy/1926256/thai-ticket-refunds-at-risk

Bango Cheito
05-30-20, 07:26
That still means nothing when someone is bankrupt.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/easy/1926256/thai-ticket-refunds-at-risk

Totally agreed. I wouldn't recommend booking any flights here or anywhere else right now, unless there's some place you HAVE to get out of and it's one-way.

I was thinking of going back to the USA to work and get my money situation back on point, but I'd need to be sure I don't have that 14 day bullshit slapped on me.

If you come to Colombia right now, you will DEFINITELY have that bullshit slapped on you. And don't think you're just going to order escort room service. You wouldn't be the first person to wind up on the national news here if you did.

Where I live in the south of Bogota, enforcement isn't as strict as it would be for you coming in from outside and staying downtown, Chapinero, the north etc.

Bango Cheito
05-30-20, 07:29
Yeah, I get why Colombia and Peru did what they did. They had so few ICU and ventilators and went into an immediate and thorough lockdown, the opposite of Sweden. So whereas Sweden is seeing a decline in new cases, Colombia and Peru are still going up. By flattening the curve so much, it seems like the virus is going to take longer to burn itself out in these countries.

I am still at the no one knows nothing stage, but I did see some studies showing masks are good, travel is bad, social distancing is good, and lockdowns were horrible and unnecessary but destroyed economies, but I think it has gotten to the point where there are so many conflicting reports, you can justify any POV.A.

1) There hasn't been a shortage of ICU beds here in Colombia in decades. That was always fake.

2) Right now I'm getting photos of hospitals and Corferias where they've set up all those makeshift ICU units. They're all EMPTY.

3) They've been caught attributing deaths to this Wuhan virus (I'm never saying Covid), and then illegally cremating the bodies, and families are suing. It's all over the news and social media here.

Elvis 2008
05-30-20, 18:29
1) There hasn't been a shortage of ICU beds here in Colombia in decades. That was always fake.

2) Right now I'm getting photos of hospitals and Corferias where they've set up all those makeshift ICU units. They're all EMPTY.So just like the USA then? That is too funny. It is well known now that the hospitals could get $39 k in the USA for putting down Covid.


3) They've been caught attributing deaths to this Wuhan virus (I'm never saying Covid), and then illegally cremating the bodies, and families are suing. It's all over the news and social media here.

OK, that fits. I was told third world countries had incentives to mark down Covid deaths, and I found an article showing the World Bank was pledging billions to help countries with Covid so even Colombia has an incentive to put down a questionable death to Covid.

FWIW, a huge development that has not gotten publicity is the availability of testing. Eight weeks ago, there were practically no tests. Just four weeks ago, there was limited number of testing and labs had strict criteria. They would refuse to run tests even if doctors ordered them. Just one week ago, I got word that the 15 minute rapidly available tests could be done in hospitals and not shipped out, and doctors were being encouraged to run tests on every patient they could so anyone with even one symptom of Covid SHOULD be tested.

The availability of in house rapid testing is why IMO the sports leagues are talking about or going to reopen.

Will airlines do it? I don't know. My thinking is that it will depend on the cost.

Anyway, so those predicting a second wave are sure to be right. The problem is that now there will be many more cases but far fewer deaths percentage wise. I have to wonder if this was the reason Colombia opened up.

One poster was constantly talking about the second wave to hit Colombia. Colombia hasn't even entered a period of decline yet, so they are not done with the first wave. However, if rapid testing is available, then you can test and isolate which is what should have been going on all along instead of isolating everyone.

The CDC and FDA not allowing private companies the ability to produce their own Covid tests for 4 weeks was a fuckup that I hope somebody pays for. Whomever made that decision has been hidden away and maybe 30 years from now, we will know who that is.

Knowledge
05-30-20, 19:40
I am grateful the situation in Medellin is very different than it is in Bogota. Casas are open and escort outcalls are very active. I think Claudia Lopez made a mistake criticizing Duque's order to reopen businesses but I understand she did it for political reasons. It seems likely there will be a prolonged lockdown in Bogota. I really hope Lopez does not shutdown public transportation.

Also, only Colombians can come to Colombia right now and yes there is a closely monitored 14 day quarantine requirement.


Totally agreed. I wouldn't recommend booking any flights here or anywhere else right now, unless there's some place you HAVE to get out of and it's one-way.

I was thinking of going back to the USA to work and get my money situation back on point, but I'd need to be sure I don't have that 14 day bullshit slapped on me.

If you come to Colombia right now, you will DEFINITELY have that bullshit slapped on you. And don't think you're just going to order escort room service. You wouldn't be the first person to wind up on the national news here if you did.

Where I live in the south of Bogota, enforcement isn't as strict as it would be for you coming in from outside and staying downtown, Chapinero, the north etc.

Elvis 2008
06-21-20, 07:15
I have bought four of my chicas the remote vibrators from Lovense, and tonight I had my first run with it. Granted, I didn't have mine as I am not at home, but I controlled her vibrator with my phone.

The first night we tried the internet was not working and my quarters were not as private as they should have been. We tried again tonight, and it was hot. My chica was moaning like crazy when I first put the vibrator, the lovense lush 2 to work as I moved the controller higher and higher the moans went higher as well. I have to admit I was getting hard and showing her how hard I was got her more excited as well. Finally, she let out a scream and came very hard. I almost did as well. It was very hot, much better than I thought.

The Lovense app was a little tougher to control than it should have been, but in the end, it did the job. All I can say is that was really nice to see one of my Colombian chicas moaning and cumming again. It was not good as the real thing of course but way better than nothing.

The Tall Man
06-21-20, 14:50
I have bought four of my chicas the remote vibrators from Lovense, and tonight I had my first run with it. Granted, I didn't have mine as I am not at home, but I controlled her vibrator with my phone.

The first night we tried the internet was not working and my quarters were not as private as they should have been. We tried again tonight, and it was hot. My chica was moaning like crazy when I first put the vibrator, the lovense lush 2 to work as I moved the controller higher and higher the moans went higher as well. I have to admit I was getting hard and showing her how hard I was got her more excited as well. Finally, she let out a scream and came very hard. I almost did as well. It was very hot, much better than I thought.

The Lovense app was a little tougher to control than it should have been, but in the end, it did the job. All I can say is that was really nice to see one of my Colombian chicas moaning and cumming again. It was not good as the real thing of course but way better than nothing.Good post as it motivates me to look into these remote dildos. I have a good assortment of dildos and and take them out when needed. Just earlier this week had a paisa chica over whom I last saw over a year ago and she always enjoys trying out each of the 5 or 6 that I keep for these "special moments", she finally settled in on the one that she enjoyed the most. I could write a scientific paper on this, hehehe.

The Tall Man.

JjBee62
06-22-20, 03:38
Good post as it motivates me to look into these remote dildos. I have a good assortment of dildos and and take them out when needed. Just earlier this week had a paisa chica over whom I last saw over a year ago and she always enjoys trying out each of the 5 or 6 that I keep for these "special moments", she finally settled in on the one that she enjoyed the most. I could write a scientific paper on this, hehehe.

The Tall Man.The particular one he's talking about costs between 450-500 k. Except for the antenna that sticks out, it goes completely inside, and can be worn while she's out and about. It connects to her phone via Bluetooth and then you can control it through the app on your phone.

There are preset patterns you can choose, or you can control the power level and vibration frequency manually. It's a very powerful vibrator. Depending on the girl, it may be too much at full power.

I've found that using a wave pattern, with both power and frequency works well. Also dropping the power down to zero off and on is effective.

Bango Cheito
06-28-20, 02:43
So just like the USA then? That is too funny. It is well known now that the hospitals could get $39 k in the USA for putting down Covid.



OK, that fits. I was told third world countries had incentives to mark down Covid deaths, and I found an article showing the World Bank was pledging billions to help countries with Covid so even Colombia has an incentive to put down a questionable death to Covid.

FWIW, a huge development that has not gotten publicity is the availability of testing. Eight weeks ago, there were practically no tests. Just four weeks ago, there was limited number of testing and labs had strict criteria. They would refuse to run tests even if doctors ordered them. Just one week ago, I got word that the 15 minute rapidly available tests could be done in hospitals and not shipped out, and doctors were being encouraged to run tests on every patient they could so anyone with even one symptom of Covid SHOULD be tested.

The availability of in house rapid testing is why IMO the sports leagues are talking about or going to reopen.

Will airlines do it? I don't know. My thinking is that it will depend on the cost.

Anyway, so those predicting a second wave are sure to be right. The problem is that now there will be many more cases but far fewer deaths percentage wise. I have to wonder if this was the reason Colombia opened up.

One poster was constantly talking about the second wave to hit Colombia. Colombia hasn't even entered a period of decline yet, so they are not done with the first wave. However, if rapid testing is available, then you can test and isolate which is what should have been going on all along instead of isolating everyone.

The CDC and FDA not allowing private companies the ability to produce their own Covid tests for 4 weeks was a fuckup that I hope somebody pays for. Whomever made that decision has been hidden away and maybe 30 years from now, we will know who that is.It makes no sense how closed off we still are actually, to me.

The Tall Man
06-28-20, 15:57
The particular one he's talking about costs between 450-500 k. Except for the antenna that sticks out, it goes completely inside, and can be worn while she's out and about. It connects to her phone via Bluetooth and then you can control it through the app on your phone.

There are preset patterns you can choose, or you can control the power level and vibration frequency manually. It's a very powerful vibrator. Depending on the girl, it may be too much at full power.

I've found that using a wave pattern, with both power and frequency works well. Also dropping the power down to zero off and on is effective.Thanks, great info, can I purchase one at a sex shop here in Medellin? I have a few paisas that would love the experience.

The Tall Man.

JjBee62
06-28-20, 22:55
Thanks, great info, can I purchase one at a sex shop here in Medellin? I have a few paisas that would love the experience.

The Tall Man.Yep. Either Guia Cereza or Sexo Sentido should have them. There are 2 options. There's the line by Lovense, which includes the Lush. That's the pink antenna you'll see sticking out of a lot of webcam model pussies. Then there's the OhMiBod line which had the Esca, which is basically identical to the Lush. There's a third company called WeVibe which also has Bluetooth compatible vibrators, but I don't know anyone who has used one.

The Lush and Esca look like a giant pink or purple sperm. An egg shaped head with a long tail. Turn it on, stick it in and open up the app. The girl can use the app on her phone to control it, or give control to you.

https://www.lovense.com/

https://www.ohmibod.com/

https://we-vibe.com/

The Tall Man
06-29-20, 15:49
Yep. Either Guia Cereza or Sexo Sentido should have them. There are 2 options. There's the line by Lovense, which includes the Lush. That's the pink antenna you'll see sticking out of a lot of webcam model pussies. Then there's the OhMiBod line which had the Esca, which is basically identical to the Lush. There's a third company called WeVibe which also has Bluetooth compatible vibrators, but I don't know anyone who has used one.

The Lush and Esca look like a giant pink or purple sperm. An egg shaped head with a long tail. Turn it on, stick it in and open up the app. The girl can use the app on her phone to control it, or give control to you.

https://www.lovense.com/

https://www.ohmibod.com/

https://we-vibe.com/Many many thanks. Damn I could have put a few of these to good use with the two chicas from yesterday, hehehe.

Thanks!

The Tall Man.

Lugnut
06-30-20, 03:56
Yep. Either Guia Cereza or Sexo Sentido should have them. There are 2 options. There's the line by Lovense, which includes the Lush. That's the pink antenna you'll see sticking out of a lot of webcam model pussies. Then there's the OhMiBod line which had the Esca, which is basically identical to the Lush. There's a third company called WeVibe which also has Bluetooth compatible vibrators, but I don't know anyone who has used one.

The Lush and Esca look like a giant pink or purple sperm. An egg shaped head with a long tail. Turn it on, stick it in and open up the app. The girl can use the app on her phone to control it, or give control to you.

https://www.lovense.com/

https://www.ohmibod.com/

https://we-vibe.com/I think that a month or more ago people were talking prices. FYI, studios pay 294 k COP for the Lush 2, from a place called Comercializadora Bora S. A. S, in Itagui. Cra 52 #57-62 piso.

JjBee62
06-30-20, 18:18
I think that a month or more ago people were talking prices. FYI, studios pay 294 k COP for the Lush 2, from a place called Comercializadora Bora S. A. S, in Itagui. Cra 52 #57-62 piso.Wouldn't surprise me at all. Studios are buying them by the case. I remember a meeting with the model manager for Juan Bustos studios. There were cases of dildos, paddles and vibrators stacked against the wall. That was before every webcam model had to have a Lush.

Bango Cheito
07-01-20, 04:27
Just in case yall are interested This happened on a bus in Cali a few days ago. They are probably going to get heavily fined for this.

https://twitter.com/Goy99087137/status/1272632568895213570

BayBoy
07-02-20, 13:10
I have a travel / flight question. Does Avianca or any of the other airlines in Colombia offer flight passes. In other words you pay a flat fee and then get unlimited flights within Colombia for a given time period.

I was considering flying from Pereira to Medellin to Santa Marta and Cali within a 2 week period. All this of course after the pandemic is lifted.

The Tall Man
07-02-20, 16:56
I have a travel / flight question. Does Avianca or any of the other airlines in Colombia offer flight passes. In other words you pay a flat fee and then get unlimited flights within Colombia for a given time period.

I was considering flying from Pereira to Medellin to Santa Marta and Cali within a 2 week period. All this of course after the pandemic is lifted.Nope nothing like that available and besides this the flights are relatively cheap anyway.

The Tall Man.

BayBoy
07-02-20, 19:05
Nope nothing like that available and besides this the flights are relatively cheap anyway.

The Tall Man.I agree. I checked some of those flights and they were pretty cheap, like $60-70 a piece.

JjBee62
07-07-20, 22:49
My somewhat standard disclaimer: This may be of no interest to you, or anyone else.

A few months ago I stumbled upon a whole nest of non-pros. I'm getting to the point where it's hard to keep track of them. Probably the worst part of trying to keep up with them all, is the timing. For 6 hours I won't hear from anyone, then 6 of them hit me up at the same time, usually when I'm busy with something else.

The best part are the surprises. This morning the most mercenary one hit me up. I consider her more than likely a semi-pro. I can see her with her friends in Gusto making eye contact. I've somewhat pushed her to the back burner since everything is finalized with her. She wants me when I get back and she wants to bring a friend.

I had told her a few weeks back I'd like to see a video of her with another girl, which she said she would work on. This morning she said she had something for me. Turned out to be a couple of short clips of a girl-girl video, except she wasn't one of the girls. She got one of her friends and another girl to let her video them for me and both of the girls are top shelf. She'll be sending the entire video soon.

When I started having serious discussions with one girl I started writing porn for her. The first one was just chatting in WhatsApp. And she loved it. Since then I've started writing stories and sending them to most of the girls. The average response has been "Woooooow. Dame mas. " Give me more. I've got several of them waiting for the next installment.

Most of these girls are further up the food chain from the typical prepago. They go to university, live in better neighborhoods and are better educated. I'm thinking about testing them out on some of the better barrio girls, just to see the reaction.

I'm actually getting a big change in attitude from some of the girls. Ones that just wanted to chat and be friends are now changing their tune.

If you're interested in doing something like this, here are some tips.

1. You never need to mention the size of anything, especially the dicks. Talk about shapes instead. "The swollen head", 'the curve of her breast."

2. Don't focus on the things you want to see or read about. Consider your audience. What does she want?

3. Keep the vulgarity to a minimum. Make the action more subtle. "Slides his erect member between your swollen lips and into you", is better than "fucks your wet pussy with his huge cock."

4. Play the emotional content more than the physical. Write about how she feels rather than what you see.

5. Play with taboos. Public nudity or voyeurism, light bondage and discipline, breaking away from the normal stuff. Women think about these things already. Use that.

6. Be a bit unpredictable. Put the character in a situation where you know what any woman would do. Mention the normal response, then have her do something else. Like: "You awaken aroused from a dream. As you gradually become aware of your surroundings, you realize your hand is in your panties and your fingers are still caressing your clit. Looking around, you notice the window cleaner staring at you, his mouth open wide and his squeegee motionless on the glass. You immediately want to cover yourself or run to the bathroom, but the lingering effects of your dream whisper "don't stop."

7. Add some background. Mention furniture and the things you would see in the scene. You need to paint a picture she can visualize.

8. Keep it short. Break up the entire story into manageable pieces.

9. Edit it, before you translate and then edit it again. Using proper punctuation will make it easier.

That's about all there is to it. So far the women love the stories.

And if you're stuck doing nothing, having 6 women thinking about you when they masturbate is better than nothing.

AmoMedellin
07-16-20, 20:04
Also in Colombia girl are like maniac for getting in contact.

I want a wife, not 1111 prepagos (she same cost over a decade).

99% just invent a stupid lie and indirectly ask for money.

Go to Cuba, VNZm, Colombia, Brazil when you have a vaccine.

Prices will still be low for years, it'my prediction, Chinese girls value must be none.

Before the crisis in VNZ with maduro it was cheap, now it's maybe not free but girls 8-10 points with education want to emigrate now.

Buy a stash of Viagra and Ciualis and clean yourself up, hit the gym, and become a older-novio / husband. It'done during 10-20 weeks.

If you don't like her, send her home and hunt down another one, or, if possible, invite 2-3 girls.

A good salary in Copenhagen can give them a good life for 3-6 month tourist visa.

Bordelos are practically closed, photoprepagos.com, ads are down 77%.

Bango Cheito
07-23-20, 03:22
My somewhat standard disclaimer: This may be of no interest to you, or anyone else.

A few months ago I stumbled upon a whole nest of non-pros. I'm getting to the point where it's hard to keep track of them. Probably the worst part of trying to keep up with them all, is the timing. For 6 hours I won't hear from anyone, then 6 of them hit me up at the same time, usually when I'm busy with something else.

The best part are the surprises. This morning the most mercenary one hit me up. I consider her more than likely a semi-pro. I can see her with her friends in Gusto making eye contact. I've somewhat pushed her to the back burner since everything is finalized with her. She wants me when I get back and she wants to bring a friend.

I had told her a few weeks back I'd like to see a video of her with another girl, which she said she would work on. This morning she said she had something for me. Turned out to be a couple of short clips of a girl-girl video, except she wasn't one of the girls. She got one of her friends and another girl to let her video them for me and both of the girls are top shelf. She'll be sending the entire video soon.

When I started having serious discussions with one girl I started writing porn for her. The first one was just chatting in WhatsApp. And she loved it. Since then I've started writing stories and sending them to most of the girls. The average response has been "Woooooow. Dame mas. " Give me more. I've got several of them waiting for the next installment.

Most of these girls are further up the food chain from the typical prepago. They go to university, live in better neighborhoods and are better educated. I'm thinking about testing them out on some of the better barrio girls, just to see the reaction.

I'm actually getting a big change in attitude from some of the girls. Ones that just wanted to chat and be friends are now changing their tune.

If you're interested in doing something like this, here are some tips.

1. You never need to mention the size of anything, especially the dicks. Talk about shapes instead. "The swollen head", 'the curve of her breast."

2. Don't focus on the things you want to see or read about. Consider your audience. What does she want?

3. Keep the vulgarity to a minimum. Make the action more subtle. "Slides his erect member between your swollen lips and into you", is better than "fucks your wet pussy with his huge cock."

4. Play the emotional content more than the physical. Write about how she feels rather than what you see.

5. Play with taboos. Public nudity or voyeurism, light bondage and discipline, breaking away from the normal stuff. Women think about these things already. Use that.

6. Be a bit unpredictable. Put the character in a situation where you know what any woman would do. Mention the normal response, then have her do something else. Like: "You awaken aroused from a dream. As you gradually become aware of your surroundings, you realize your hand is in your panties and your fingers are still caressing your clit. Looking around, you notice the window cleaner staring at you, his mouth open wide and his squeegee motionless on the glass. You immediately want to cover yourself or run to the bathroom, but the lingering effects of your dream whisper "don't stop."

7. Add some background. Mention furniture and the things you would see in the scene. You need to paint a picture she can visualize.

8. Keep it short. Break up the entire story into manageable pieces.

9. Edit it, before you translate and then edit it again. Using proper punctuation will make it easier.

That's about all there is to it. So far the women love the stories.

And if you're stuck doing nothing, having 6 women thinking about you when they masturbate is better than nothing.99% they are all pros.

Mr Enternational
07-23-20, 05:04
99% they are all pros.99.5%. There is hardly a chick that is not a hooker that is going to be doing shit like that for a guy she has not even met. And to have found an entire nest of them? It is funny how he thinks they are doing these things because of how he is playing the game. As if he is talking a duck into acting like a duck.

I have been doing this new thing with chicks that I have been seeing on dating sites. If I can tell they are pretty much a hooker then I will ask what they are looking for. Of course they come with the serious relationship stuff first. Then I will tell them sorry, I am only looking for a fling. The hookers will say tell me more. The serious chicks will wish me good luck.

JjBee62
07-23-20, 05:57
99% they are all pros.Why is math so hard? Unless I'm talking about a minimum of 100 women, or any multiple of 100, it's impossible for 99% to be all pros.

In this case, the core group is 6 women, which means the possibilities are 100%, 83.33%, 66.67%, 50%, 33.33%, 16.67% and 0%. If I can do that all in my head, surely you can figure it out on a calculator.

The correct answer is 0%.

However, I've also sent one of the stories to 4 different pros. Good reviews from all of them.

Tell me. You live in Bogota. Are all the clerk's at all the stores you visit pros? All the waitresses, nurses, doctors, secretaries, or any other women you come in contact with? I believe you've said you have a girlfriend? I'm assuming she's also a pro? Can you give me her price?

If you know women in Colombia who are not prostitutes, why is it impossible to believe that anyone else might know women in Colombia who are not prostitutes?

Bango Cheito
07-24-20, 08:44
Why is math so hard? Unless I'm talking about a minimum of 100 women, or any multiple of 100, it's impossible for 99% to be all pros.

In this case, the core group is 6 women, which means the possibilities are 100%, 83.33%, 66.67%, 50%, 33.33%, 16.67% and 0%. If I can do that all in my head, surely you can figure it out on a calculator.

The correct answer is 0%.

However, I've also sent one of the stories to 4 different pros. Good reviews from all of them.

Tell me. You live in Bogota. Are all the clerk's at all the stores you visit pros? All the waitresses, nurses, doctors, secretaries, or any other women you come in contact with? I believe you've said you have a girlfriend? I'm assuming she's also a pro? Can you give me her price?

If you know women in Colombia who are not prostitutes, why is it impossible to believe that anyone else might know women in Colombia who are not prostitutes?At least 60-70% of women between 15-50 in Colombia today have charged for sex at least once in their lives. Literally all but 2 of my Colombian GF's have.

According to your way of interpreting it, at least 100% of the women you are talking to are pros, since you're not willing to admit 99% or 95% LOL.

The main reason I say this is that you're writing erotic stories in English and then running them thru Google translator.

Is it possible to meet non-pros in Colombia as a foreigner? Absolutely. But if you don't have fluent Spanish, you can 99.98% forget it!

The Tall Man
07-24-20, 15:36
At least 60-70% of women between 15-50 in Colombia today have charged for sex at least once in their lives. Literally all but 2 of my Colombian GF's have.

According to your way of interpreting it, at least 100% of the women you are talking to are pros, since you're not willing to admit 99% or 95% LOL.

The main reason I say this is that you're writing erotic stories in English and then running them thru Google translator.

Is it possible to meet non-pros in Colombia as a foreigner? Absolutely. But if you don't have fluent Spanish, you can 99.98% forget it!The truest saying of all is "The only honest woman is a prostitute". Enough said.

The Tall Man.

JjBee62
07-24-20, 23:26
At least 60-70% of women between 15-50 in Colombia today have charged for sex at least once in their lives. Literally all but 2 of my Colombian GF's have.

According to your way of interpreting it, at least 100% of the women you are talking to are pros, since you're not willing to admit 99% or 95% LOL.

The main reason I say this is that you're writing erotic stories in English and then running them thru Google translator.

Is it possible to meet non-pros in Colombia as a foreigner? Absolutely. But if you don't have fluent Spanish, you can 99.98% forget it!Why do you apply probabilities to what are ultimately just your personal opinions?

I'm going to 100% disagree with your closing statement. My first trip to Colombia, I met an assumed non-pro on the plane. No Spanish required. All it took was having a pen. In Medellin I met plenty of non-pros, including an engineer, a lawyer and a dentist. I didn't date any of them, although the engineer did give me reason to believe an advance wouldn't be shot down.

Fluency in Spanish is not a requirement to meet women. The more you know, the easier it becomes, but it's not the limiting factor. Even when I was struggling to put together 4 consecutive sentences it wasn't hard to meet women. Getting into a relationship with them is harder, but as everyone has seen, it's far from impossible.

I have an easy solution for your skepticism and an opportunity for you to make some money. Let's make a wager.

PM me your WhatsApp. I'll make a 3 person WhatsApp group, you me and a non-pro. We'll pick a time when we're all available and I'll wager $500 you can't get her to agree to have sex with you. You'll have 4 hours to make your case. If she agrees I'll pay her out of the $500 and send you the rest. I'll pay her round-trip airfare and hotel out of my own pocket. If she refuses, you can send me $200 ($100 for each of your non-pro girlfriends).

It's an almost guaranteed win for you, since you're 99% calling me a liar. I'll even guarantee an attractive, fit woman of no more than 22, without any plastic surgery.

I'm willing to put my money behind my statements. Are you willing to do the same?

Or you can just admit that you don't personally know every woman in Colombia, not do you know me and it's possible that you're wrong. Take your pick.

On the subject of writing porn, I have gotten lucky with 2. One of them lives on the same floor I used to set my scene. The other one had an experience that was similar to one I wrote about. Those little coincidences help the girls relate more closely to the story.

Balboa
07-25-20, 02:46
At least 60-70% of women between 15-50 in Colombia today have charged for sex at least once in their lives. Literally all but 2 of my Colombian GF's have.
Actually according to my calculation it's exactly 63%, and just may include those 2 GF's you refer to. LOL.

Ho Lover1
07-26-20, 04:48
The dollar has been falling lately. Does anyone know of a good way to buy Colombian Peso in the US.

Elvis 2008
07-26-20, 05:15
I'm going to 100% disagree with your closing statement. My first trip to Colombia, I met an assumed non-pro on the plane. No Spanish required. All it took was having a pen. In Medellin I met plenty of non-pros, including an engineer, a lawyer and a dentist. I didn't date any of them, although the engineer did give me reason to believe an advance wouldn't be shot down.Except for me, right JJBee? Actually, I have had a similar experience. It is funny I have talked to a orthodontist and a medical student, was dating a lawyer.

People on another forum were like, "If there is any expectation of money on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. " To me, that was stupid. It was like saying men do not care if their wife is attractive or good in bed.

A moderator came on and agreed with that. It was kind of funny because when you say crap like that, life has a way of getting you down. In his case, what he is going to say when his 18 year old daughter is in love with a 25 year old unemployed druggie and wants to marry him?

So sure, many Colombian women are going to be interested in an American man that has the potential to provide for them. They are also aware of how much coming to the USA will increase their wages. I have met many Colombian women who know that their wages will go up 3 to 10 X if they come to America. So there are a lot of reasons besides just your money.

I am so sick of guys spouting off their alpha male bullshit. I actually read a woman talk about a gamma male, and that is what I am and proud to be. The people who think alpha males get the guys have no clue why I pick up the women I do.

I swear the way some guys define working girls, every woman outside of a nun is a working girl.

Combo
07-26-20, 20:31
Except for me, right JJBee? Actually, I have had a similar experience. It is funny I have talked to a orthodontist and a medical student, was dating a lawyer.

People on another forum were like, "If there is any expectation of money on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. " To me, that was stupid. It was like saying men do not care if their wife is attractive or good in bed.

A moderator came on and agreed with that. It was kind of funny because when you say crap like that, life has a way of getting you down. In his case, what he is going to say when his 18 year old daughter is in love with a 25 year old unemployed druggie and wants to marry him?

So sure, many Colombian women are going to be interested in an American man that has the potential to provide for them. They are also aware of how much coming to the USA will increase their wages. I have met many Colombian women who know that their wages will go up 3 to 10 X if they come to America. So there are a lot of reasons besides just your money.

I am so sick of guys spouting off their alpha male bullshit. I actually read a woman talk about a gamma male, and that is what I am and proud to be. The people who think alpha males get the guys have no clue why I pick up the women I do.

I swear the way some guys define working girls, every woman outside of a nun is a working girl.For sure. Pro vs non-pro is not a simple dichotomy.

MarquisdeSade1
07-28-20, 12:42
Except for me, right JJBee? Actually, I have had a similar experience. It is funny I have talked to a orthodontist and a medical student, was dating a lawyer.

People on another forum were like, "If there is any expectation of money on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. " To me, that was stupid. It was like saying men do not care if their wife is attractive or good in bed.

A moderator came on and agreed with that. It was kind of funny because when you say crap like that, life has a way of getting you down. In his case, what he is going to say when his 18 year old daughter is in love with a 25 year old unemployed druggie and wants to marry him?

So sure, many Colombian women are going to be interested in an American man that has the potential to provide for them. They are also aware of how much coming to the USA will increase their wages. I have met many Colombian women who know that their wages will go up 3 to 10 X if they come to America. So there are a lot of reasons besides just your money.

I am so sick of guys spouting off their alpha male bullshit. I actually read a woman talk about a gamma male, and that is what I am and proud to be. The people who think alpha males get the guys have no clue why I pick up the women I do..They are no better.

Bango Cheito
07-31-20, 22:32
JJBee, I'm not calling you a liar; I'm saying you are wrong.

You're also creating a straw man and didn't even pay attention to what I'm saying.

Not once did I say you aren't going to get any interest without fluent Spanish. I said you won't be getting the kind of interest you (or anybody reading this) think you are getting without fluent Spanish.

Meaning you won't be meeting anybody TRUSTWORTHY.

This is the only reason I'm dealing with this stupid topic, to make sure things are clear and no misinformation is spread on here.

OBVIOUSLY 99.9% of Colombian girls won't accept an indecent proposal from some stranger on Whatsapp. Nobody is arguing that. These girls have channels. Some of them have been undercover for years, or over a decade.

If you got free sex out of a couple of these girls, great! If they wind up taking advantage of you for it, great! If you wind up being all the wiser and not letting that happen (possibly because of this conversation) great too! Either way we don't really care.

My only point is that it's ridiculous to think you're scoring points with women by writing dirty stories in English and then running them through Google translate.

Mr Enternational
08-01-20, 04:56
People on another forum were like, "If there is any expectation of money on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. " To me, that was stupid.So what is the difference between the women expecting money and the ones not expecting money? You seem to be saying there is no difference.

In the last 15 years I have met and fucked way more chicks online in Colombia that did not expect money than hookers that I have fucked there. But not 1 of those chicks was about to start pulling off clothes in front of a video camera without meeting me in person first. And in 1 month's time to have found 6 to eagerly do it and 1 to find a friend to do it with her? Either times are changing or he is walking around with a rabbit's foot in his pocket and should play the lottery.

JjBee62
08-01-20, 16:14
So what is the difference between the women expecting money and the ones not expecting money? You seem to be saying there is no difference.

In the last 15 years I have met and fucked way more chicks online in Colombia that did not expect money than hookers that I have fucked there. But not 1 of those chicks was about to start pulling off clothes in front of a video camera without meeting me in person first. And in 1 month's time to have found 6 to eagerly do it and 1 to find a friend to do it with her? Either times are changing or he is walking around with a rabbit's foot in his pocket and should play the lottery.Now answer one question.

How many of those girls did you try to get naked on camera before meeting them?

Let me try your logic. I've never asked a Colombiana for anal sex. Therefore, anyone who claims to have had anal sex in Colombia is a liar, or they don't know the difference between vaginal sex and anal sex.

Let's try another one. According to Bango Cheito, it's impossible to have sex with anyone except for a prostitute in Colombia unless you're fluent in Spanish. Therefore, we appear to have a whole bunch of people lying about their activities in Colombia, including a lot of guys who don't know the difference between fluent in Spanish and able to hold a conversation in Spanish.

We can add in BBFS, trios, TLN and just about everything else including getting a hamburger cooked well-done, because there's someone out there who has never tried to get those things. All are now, by your logic, impossible.

It doesn't work that way. You achieve what you set out to achieve. You claim to have sex with all those non-pros, but using your own logic that's impossible, because many people have failed to have sex with non-pros, or have never tried. Take your pick. Either admit you've lied thousands of times about your non-pros, or admit that you're completely off base on the subject of getting women naked on camera because it's not something you've ever had an interest in.

It's really not difficult. In fact, after almost 25 years of doing it, it's gotten pretty easy.

Zeos1
08-01-20, 16:53
JJBee, I'm not calling you a liar; I'm saying you are wrong.

You're also creating a straw man and didn't even pay attention to what I'm saying.

Not once did I say you aren't going to get any interest without fluent Spanish. I said you won't be getting the kind of interest you (or anybody reading this) think you are getting without fluent Spanish.

Meaning you won't be meeting anybody TRUSTWORTHY.

This is the only reason I'm dealing with this stupid topic, to make sure things are clear and no misinformation is spread on here.

OBVIOUSLY 99.9% of Colombian girls won't accept an indecent proposal from some stranger on Whatsapp. Nobody is arguing that. These girls have channels. Some of them have been undercover for years, or over a decade.

If you got free sex out of a couple of these girls, great! If they wind up taking advantage of you for it, great! If you wind up being all the wiser and not letting that happen (possibly because of this conversation) great too! Either way we don't really care.

My only point is that it's ridiculous to think you're scoring points with women by writing dirty stories in English and then running them through Google translate.Knowing someone is trustworthy is more than language, but language is important in it.

The issue I see with language is more about the nuances of meaning. And it takes some fluency to get to that in a second language. I know I've screwed up in the past by not being able to express uncertainty well. For example "when I get to know you better, if things are still looking good, perhaps I might consider getting married, but I have to get my divorce finalized first" That might not work well through a translate program. Now, my Spanish is good enough that I could take a stab at it with subjunctive and conditional tenses where needed, etc but not on the fly.

Villainy
08-01-20, 23:09
I said you won't be getting the kind of interest you (or anybody reading this) think you are getting without fluent Spanish.

Meaning you won't be meeting anybody TRUSTWORTHY.Oh dear God! Seriously? Well let me say this. I'm not fluent in Spanish, not by a long shot. I can, however, speak a little more than most. My accent isn't horrible (thanks to growing up in New Mexico and hearing Spanish a lot as a kid). I've met a woman and had profound conversations with her and we became novio & novia for a while. It didn't work out because I'm a bit of a dog at heart and she was kind of jealous at heart so we just weren't a good match. She was as trustworthy as they come and she never asked for a penny not even for me to pay her taxis when she came to stay with me at my hotel. I did of course buy her things and give her money for food and taxis but she never asked or hinted or suggested or anything of the kind.

Another friend who is a little older (and an infrequent prepago) is very reliable. I think in over a dozen encounters she was never later than 10-15 minutes and she lived pretty far from me. I trusted her so much that when I went back to the states (in February) for a week I left my big suitcase with her taking only my smaller one, since it was only a 1 week visit. I left some electronics and other things in the big suitcase knowing the not a single thing would be missing. And not single thing was missing when I returned.

Yes, of course, you multiply your chances to meet people and form friendships or relationships when you develop your Spanish speaking skills. But to say that absent that you can't meet people, have fun and that the only people who will connect with you aren't "trustworthy" is laughably absurd.

Oh and just in case someone thinks they can use Google Translate and get along just fine, well, you're kidding yourself. I have a prepago friend I've been speaking to periodically. I speak to her in Spanish and never use Google translate. She started responding back in English using Google translate (she only really knows a few words) well you should see some of the return messages in English. Some are almost completely indecipherable. I can only imagine that anything more complex than setting up a cita is going to be equally difficult for them to plow through. So yes, if you plan to spend a lot of time in Colombia, learning Spanish is worthwhile.

JjBee62
08-02-20, 06:01
Oh dear God! Seriously? Well let me say this. I'm not fluent in Spanish, not by a long shot. I can, however, speak a little more than most. My accent isn't horrible (thanks to growing up in New Mexico and hearing Spanish a lot as a kid). I've met a woman and had profound conversations with her and we became novio & novia for a while. It didn't work out because I'm a bit of a dog at heart and she was kind of jealous at heart so we just weren't a good match. She was as trustworthy as they come and she never asked for a penny not even for me to pay her taxis when she came to stay with me at my hotel. I did of course buy her things and give her money for food and taxis but she never asked or hinted or suggested or anything of the kind.

Another friend who is a little older (and an infrequent prepago) is very reliable. I think in over a dozen encounters she was never later than 10-15 minutes and she lived pretty far from me. I trusted her so much that when I went back to the states (in February) for a week I left my big suitcase with her taking only my smaller one, since it was only a 1 week visit. I left some electronics and other things in the big suitcase knowing the not a single thing would be missing. And not single thing was missing when I returned..There are a few tricks which help with Google translate. Stick with direct sentences. Indirect sentences don't always come through well. Also separate everything with a comma. Otherwise it will try to combine clauses.

For my normal conversations I don't use translate, other than to look up a single word from time to time. When I'm writing a story I use a 3 step approach. I write in English, because I can develop a flow without interruption to look up a word. Then I check the original for errors awkward phrasing or typos. After running it through translate, I go through and edit the Spanish version. Translate will often change words or switch back and forth between formal and informal tenses.

When I'm done the result is clear and proper.

Trustworthy? I'm not sure where that comes from. I trust everyone to behave in accordance with their nature. So far, I'm pretty good at figuring out other people's nature.

If I'm chatting with a chica about sex, I'm not sending her my SSN and account numbers. She's not getting my passwords or the combination to my gym locker. She either enjoys what I'm writing, or she doesn't.

Now, the basic pros, they have no time to read a 25,000 word story. All they care about is "are you going to be paying me or not?" The better pros, they are happy to read it. The non-pros treat it like gold.

Bango Cheito
08-05-20, 02:07
Oh dear God! Seriously? Well let me say this. I'm not fluent in Spanish, not by a long shot. I can, however, speak a little more than most. My accent isn't horrible (thanks to growing up in New Mexico and hearing Spanish a lot as a kid). I've met a woman and had profound conversations with her and we became novio & novia for a while. It didn't work out because I'm a bit of a dog at heart and she was kind of jealous at heart so we just weren't a good match. She was as trustworthy as they come and she never asked for a penny not even for me to pay her taxis when she came to stay with me at my hotel. I did of course buy her things and give her money for food and taxis but she never asked or hinted or suggested or anything of the kind.

Another friend who is a little older (and an infrequent prepago) is very reliable. I think in over a dozen encounters she was never later than 10-15 minutes and she lived pretty far from me. I trusted her so much that when I went back to the states (in February) for a week I left my big suitcase with her taking only my smaller one, since it was only a 1 week visit. I left some electronics and other things in the big suitcase knowing the not a single thing would be missing. And not single thing was missing when I returned.

Yes, of course, you multiply your chances to meet people and form friendships or relationships when you develop your Spanish speaking skills. But to say that absent that you can't meet people, have fun and that the only people who will connect with you aren't "trustworthy" is laughably absurd.

Oh and just in case someone thinks they can use Google Translate and get along just fine, well, you're kidding yourself. I have a prepago friend I've been speaking to periodically. I speak to her in Spanish and never use Google translate. She started responding back in English using Google translate (she only really knows a few words) well you should see some of the return messages in English. Some are almost completely indecipherable. I can only imagine that anything more complex than setting up a cita is going to be equally difficult for them to plow through. So yes, if you plan to spend a lot of time in Colombia, learning Spanish is worthwhile.That's what's known as anecdotal evidence. She may be a great gal and all, but even if she does turn out to be trustworthy that doesn't actually prove the point you're trying to make.

All that I'm saying is that when you gain fluency in the language you start to notice all the cultural vectors behind it and that in turn gives you a much better understanding of what's really going on.

Villainy
08-05-20, 13:45
That's what's known as anecdotal evidence. She may be a great gal and all, but even if she does turn out to be trustworthy that doesn't actually prove the point you're trying to make.

All that I'm saying is that when you gain fluency in the language you start to notice all the cultural vectors behind it and that in turn gives you a much better understanding of what's really going on.Anecdotal evidence? No it was a refutation of a statement you made (see quote below). Now, you may have meant to say it differently, you may have meant to say "you won't be many many Trustworthy people". Etc etc but what you said was "anybody" since I met "somebody" who was trustworthy and I'm not fluent in Spanish, I posit that your statement was wrong / inaccurate / poorly constructed / naive or any number of other adjectives.

That could be used, some of which might be less kind than the ones I actually chose.


I said you won't be getting the kind of interest you (or anybody reading this) think you are getting without fluent Spanish.

Meaning you won't be meeting anybody TRUSTWORTHY.

Turgid
08-05-20, 14:25
Which country has a more stable economy, Colombia or Thailand?

Questner
08-06-20, 03:21
Which country has a more stable economy, Colombia or Thailand?Thailand. One can use 'misery index' = inflation rate plus unemployment rate. Thailand has likely the lowest misery rate in the world.

MarquisdeSade1
08-19-20, 06:12
https://colombiareports.com/8-killed-in-southwest-colombia-massacre/

Questner
08-26-20, 01:31
Bars and adult venues to start to be open September 4th and 5th, 2020.

Bango Cheito
08-26-20, 04:19
Bars and adult venues to start to be open September 4th and 5th, 2020.I heard on Monday intermunicipal travel will be a thing too. Any word on specifics?

They're not going to make people get into hazmat suits to smash are they?

Bango Cheito
08-26-20, 04:23
https://colombiareports.com/8-killed-in-southwest-colombia-massacre/That's pretty far off the beaten path.

I have heard however that all of Valle de Cauca and Nariño are getting that much more dangerous. Maybe better to avoid for the time being.

Questner
08-27-20, 02:05
I heard on Monday intermunicipal travel will be a thing too. Any word on specifics?

They're not going to make people get into hazmat suits to smash are they?Airports start to open to local flights. CLO, for example, from September 1, 2020. However, the borders to be closed until October 1, 2020.

Fun Luvr
08-27-20, 15:46
Airports start to open to local flights. CLO, for example, from September 1, 2020. However, the borders to be closed until October 1, 2020.This information from the city of Cali says they expect international flights the second or third week of September. https://www.cali.gov.co/turismo/publicaciones/155674/cali-la-capital-que-iniciaria-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia/.

Rodeo9112
08-27-20, 17:01
Bars and adult venues to start to be open September 4th and 5th, 2020.Which cities?

Elvis 2008
08-27-20, 18:01
This information from the city of Cali says they expect international flights the second or third week of September. https://www.cali.gov.co/turismo/publicaciones/155674/cali-la-capital-que-iniciaria-vuelos-internacionales-en-colombia/.I have to say FL that this has been shocking to me. The government of Colombia acknowledged this USA Study showing Covid transmission rates on airplanes are, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.02.20143826v3.

The point estimates we reach based on data from late June 2020 are 1 in 4,300 for full flights and 1 in 7,700 when middle seats are kept empty.

The funny thing is that I had not heard of this study before.

I asked what is the point of banning international travel if the virus is raging in Colombia anyway. I did not expect the government to do a 180 on this, but it looks like they have. The only point in banning international travel then was to hurt the Colombian economy.

The state health department has also signed onto international travel here: https://www.eltiempo.com/economia/sectores/coronavirus-en-colombia-minsalud-autoriza-vuelos-internacionales-533854?fbclid=IwAR0A5nXb3AijzE5gg6bKbcZyhVmRcvBIQCXRo_1Cb8UHCYwrbAgWi-JxaNo.

And this is huge as well as apparently the president opened things up quicker than the health department wanted to, and the new quarantine extensions were put in place because of the health department. If the health department is okay with international travel and the country can benefit economically from it, I think we will see things open up then.

There is also a breakdown here of cases per department in Colombia. Cali or Valle de Cauca, the department Cali is in, has had 45,000 cases. Antioquia, the department Medellin is in, has had about 75,000 cases whereas Bogota is near 200,000.

One of my chicas told me that Medellin has been pushing hard to open up their airport and that the government in Bogota is much less gung ho on opening up than the other departments. We shall see.

Questner
08-28-20, 01:47
Which cities?I'm following Cali, but my understanding it should be everywhere (that is first weekend after September 1, 2020). As for international flights and tourists allowed in, there is a tug between the government and the airlines. So we shall see, and looks like MDE, CLO and CTG to be open first, and all official letters don't state the exact date as of today. The malady's stats per city is available, so planning for December with right personal arrangements may make sense on the balance.

LatinaLover#1
09-02-20, 13:06
I've been in this hobby for far too many years I care to remember, makes me feel like it's time to retire. How about NO! Jaja I have always lived by the rule, never send money. There are exceptions of course, when you really care about one of these women. I have developed caring relationships with a few special women and their families so this virus has presented me with a real conundrum. To send or not to send? So I adjusted my thinking, I do send to close friend / novias but still hold to the rule not to send to random requests by women, I have never met face to face. I have some really sweet friends, single moms, students ect who are really hurting now. I have one of my friends who lost some serious weight in the last 6 months, so I know she hasn't been eating well. Plus the fact that I have a comfortable life and sending 150,000 pesos a month to my special few is not going to change my life. I have a serious girlfriend in Bogota who got her 10 visa a few years ago and we speak about the future a lot so I take care of her and her mom, all the facturas and food, her dad and mom are separated but he still pays the mortgage, so rents not a problem. I always prided my self on being a tough guy and no women going to play me but this is different, this is a matter of life or death for some families and my heart goes out to them. Just wondering how my brothers on this board are handling this situation.

DramaFree11
09-02-20, 13:52
I've been in this hobby for far too many years I care to remember, makes me feel like it's time to retire. How about NO! Jaja I have always lived by the rule, never send money. There are exceptions of course, when you really care about one of these women. I have developed caring relationships with a few special women and their families so this virus has presented me with a real conundrum. To send or not to send? So I adjusted my thinking, I do send to close friend / novias but still hold to the rule not to send to random requests by women, I have never met face to face. I have some really sweet friends, single moms, students ect who are really hurting now. I have one of my friends who lost some serious weight in the last 6 months, so I know she hasn't been eating well. Plus the fact that I have a comfortable life and sending 150,000 pesos a month to my special few is not going to change my life. I have a serious girlfriend in Bogota who got her 10 visa a few years ago and we speak about the future a lot so I take care of her and her mom, all the facturas and food, her dad and mom are separated but he still pays the mortgage, so rents not a problem. I always prided my self on being a tough guy and no women going to play me but this is different, this is a matter of life or death for some families and my heart goes out to them. Just wondering how my brothers on this board are handling this situation.I have adopted the same rule and have had great success. People are real hurting now, especially in Latin America, so I have loosened up my rules a little.

Poster99
09-04-20, 17:48
Does anyone know of an alternative to SA in Colombia other than the prepago sites? I'm not into FB. Like countless other former SA members, I've been banned. They froze my account for suspicious activity and didn't refund my money. I disputed and won, but now I'm banned. I tried using new credentials to open an account but their software picked it up. Anyway, I'm looking for something very similar to SA.

Thanks.

John Clayton
09-04-20, 18:34
...They froze my account for suspicious activity and didn't refund my money...
Thanks.What activity would that be?

Poster99
09-04-20, 18:39
What activity would that be?Nothing I'm aware of. This is a common occurrence on this site.

Questner
09-05-20, 01:18
Looks like casinos are going to be open, a good sign of life coming back.

LatinaLover#1
09-05-20, 03:09
Does anyone know of an alternative to SA in Colombia other than the prepago sites? I'm not into FB. Like countless other former SA members, I've been banned. They froze my account for suspicious activity and didn't refund my money. I disputed and won, but now I'm banned. I tried using new credentials to open an account but their software picked it up. Anyway, I'm looking for something very similar to SA.

Thanks.I wouldn't worry too much, SA's not what it use to be, lots and lots of pic sellers and WTF is with all the Platonic profiles on there now. Throw in the constant price hikes and your not missing out on anything special.

SethMacfarlane
09-05-20, 03:43
Looks like casinos are going to be open, a good sign of life coming back.Fan-fucking-tasic! I hope be in CO In October, I love gambling almost as much as I love vennies:o.

Poster99
09-08-20, 19:38
I thought there was a section about covid? Anyway, I can't find it.

I've lived in CO for going on 2 years and had some good times. Until covid struck. Do you guys have some sort of trick or know something I don't that you're able to engage in such risky behavior without consequence?

Mr Matrix
09-09-20, 19:25
KLM / Air France have sale on for next few days from London / Manchester / Birmingham and Edinburgh to Colombia in January and February next year. Example Manchester to Medellin 368 pounds return.

LatinaLover#1
09-09-20, 20:26
I thought there was a section about covid? Anyway, I can't find it.

I've lived in CO for going on 2 years and had some good times. Until covid struck. Do you guys have some sort of trick or know something I don't that you're able to engage in such risky behavior without consequence?Yea, 99 % of what the left is pushing about this virus is BS! The numbers are so padded up, it could never pass the smell test. I just watched a pod cast by a husband and wife physicians. She said the British models predicting a million deaths in the USA was completely without any data backing it up. She gave an example, If her patient with heart disease went to the hospital because of a heart attack and he died in the hospital from heart failure but tested positive for Covid the death was declared a Covid death, even though he did not have one symptom of Covid. The actual death rate caused by Covid is. 0038. It's all about the money the hospitals get for every Covid and the shameful agenda being pushed by the left. This is the most dangerous attack on the global economy EVER!

LatinaLover#1
09-09-20, 20:27
Yea, 99 % of what the left is pushing about this virus is BS! The numbers are so padded up, it could never pass the smell test. I just watched a pod cast by a husband and wife physicians. She said the British models predicting a million deaths in the USA was completely without any data backing it up. She gave an example, If her patient with heart disease went to the hospital because of a heart attack and he died in the hospital from heart failure but tested positive for Covid the death was declared a Covid death, even though he did not have one symptom of Covid. The actual death rate caused by Covid is. 0038. It's all about the money the hospitals get for every Covid and the shameful agenda being pushed by the left. This is the most dangerous attack on the global economy EVER!Sorry typo death rate is 0. 038.

JjBee62
09-09-20, 23:51
Yea, 99 % of what the left is pushing about this virus is BS! The numbers are so padded up, it could never pass the smell test. I just watched a pod cast by a husband and wife physicians. She said the British models predicting a million deaths in the USA was completely without any data backing it up. She gave an example, If her patient with heart disease went to the hospital because of a heart attack and he died in the hospital from heart failure but tested positive for Covid the death was declared a Covid death, even though he did not have one symptom of Covid. The actual death rate caused by Covid is. 0038. It's all about the money the hospitals get for every Covid and the shameful agenda being pushed by the left. This is the most dangerous attack on the global economy EVER!So it's podcasts now that are the official repository of all scientific knowledge? Someone alert the Nobel Committee, so they can stop looking at all those dang peer-reviewed research studies and start checking out YouTube and all the podcasts. I wonder if they'll add a prize category for funny cat videos?

Did your podcaster provide proof of what she gave examples of? A death certificate combined with an an admissions diagnosis (with identifying information redacted) should do just fine. It's strange that everyone makes these claims, but nobody bothers to provide the evidence. It's almost as if they know their audience will believe anything without proof.

You see, it's incredibly easy to provide examples. I can provide an example that (now mostly retired) top webcam model Sofia Storm took me to the Maldives for 5 days and paid for everything, just because I told her I loved her hair. Since I did actually meet her once, you're obligated to believe my example without any evidence. Right?

Here's my example:

2 weeks ago Monday I went in for a covid test, because I had been experiencing symptoms. My local urgent care clinic has a drive up testing set up. Nurse comes out, asks some standard questions, checks my temp, puts the SpO2 and pulse checker on my finger and swabs me. When she looked at my pulse, I was rushed inside and hooked up for an EKG. 15 minutes later I was waiting for a ride to the ER.

At the hospital I was very quickly taken to a room and isolated. Every person who entered the room observed the hospitals covid protocol. That involved gowns, double gloves and face shields on top of masks, all donned before entry and removed and disposed of before exit. After 4 hours I was admitted and transferred to the ICU, still under covid protocol.

Another part of the covid protocol was I wasn't allowed to leave the room. X-ray machine was brought to me. Sonagram for Echo Cardiogram was brought to me. My door was kept closed.

After medication, testing and monitoring I was released from the hospital the next afternoon. Prior to release I was tested again using a rapid test. Both results were negative.

While I was there I constantly heard frequent discussions about the patient nextdoor, who was a covid patient. Discussions about if they could take him off oxygen to feed him, discussions about putting him on a ventilator. He wasn't doing very well.

On the ride home from the hospital I was informed who the covid patient in the next room was. Turned out to be someone I've known for 30 years. Can't say I ever liked him, but you can't pick who your cousins marry. He wasn't in the high risk group, he didn't have any pre-existing conditions. He wasn't admitted for something completely unrelated and then classified as a covid death because he tested positive. He got sick, had covid symptoms, got tested, was admitted, was treated and died. He wasn't involved in a car wreck on the way to the hospital. He didn't have a heart attack or an infected ingrown toenail. I'm afraid it was just plain covid all the way.

I know a few nurses, from RNs down to CNAs. One RN and a CNA I've known their entire lives. One LPN I've known for 46 years and another I've known for 12. All of them have worked with covid patients. The RN has worked almost exclusively with covid patients since April. The CNA and 1 LPN worked at a local nursing home that lost half their residents to covid over a 6 week period. The CNA now works at the hospital where I was. The other LPN works for the department of corrections and has been dealing with covid patients since early April.

Now I can assume that each of these people have been lying for months, or that each of them is incompetent and unqualified for their jobs, or I can accept their experience, knowledge and expertise. BTW, of the 4 mentioned, only 1 is a liberal, but she avoids any political discussions.

The hospitals don't get paid extra for covid cases. That was thoroughly debunked months ago. Don't you understand that if there was extra money coming in, the publicly traded healthcare stocks would be soaring? Instead they are mostly flat or losing value. Don't you think it's strange that after 5 months not one single piece of evidence has been presented to corroborate the claim that hospitals are being paid extra for covid cases? Didn't you ever wonder why, although countless people have claimed everything is being falsely labeled "covid", only one case in Florida has been found where a non-covid death was documented as covid?

Let's put it in terms you'll understand.

If a monger writes a review about a casa in Medellin, where all the girls are 18 years old and 8's or better, the facilities are better than Loutron and the price is 10 k per hour with BBBJ and anal included, plus 2 free beers, would you immediately ask for the address, or would you start asking for some proof?

If a monger tells you he's got the WhatsApp number for the current Miss Colombia along with the 1st and 2nd runner-ups and they all are available for 50 k, are you just going to believe him, or maybe call "bullshit?

If someone tells you they found a 4 bedroom penthouse with its own rooftop pool and jacuzzi, in Provenza for $10 per night are you asking for the contact info?

So why do so many people, who would question anything else, blindly accept every unsubstantiated rumor about covid?

LatinaLover#1
09-10-20, 05:54
So it's podcasts now that are the official repository of all scientific knowledge? Someone alert the Nobel Committee, so they can stop looking at all those dang peer-reviewed research studies and start checking out YouTube and all the podcasts. I wonder if they'll add a prize category for funny cat videos?

Did your podcaster provide proof of what she gave examples of? A death certificate combined with an an admissions diagnosis (with identifying information redacted) should do just fine. It's strange that everyone makes these claims, but nobody bothers to provide the evidence. It's almost as if they know their audience will believe anything without proof.

You see, it's incredibly easy to provide examples. I can provide an example that (now mostly retired) top webcam model Sofia Storm took me to the Maldives for 5 days and paid for everything, just because I told her I loved her hair. Since I did actually meet her once, you're obligated to believe my example without any evidence. Right?

Here's my example:

2 weeks ago Monday I went in for a covid test, because I had been experiencing symptoms. My local urgent care clinic has a drive up testing set up. Nurse comes out, asks some standard questions, checks my temp, puts the SpO2 and pulse checker on my finger and swabs me. When she looked at my pulse, I was rushed inside and hooked up for an EKG. 15 minutes later I was waiting for a ride to the ER.

At the hospital I was very quickly taken to a room and isolated. Every person who entered the room observed the hospitals covid protocol. That involved gowns, double gloves and face shields on top of masks, all donned before entry and removed and disposed of before exit. After 4 hours I was admitted and transferred to the ICU, still under covid protocol.

Another part of the covid protocol was I wasn't allowed to leave the room. X-ray machine was brought to me. Sonagram for Echo Cardiogram was brought to me. My door was kept closed.

After medication, testing and monitoring I was released from the hospital the next afternoon. Prior to release I was tested again using a rapid test. Both results were negative.

While I was there I constantly heard frequent discussions about the patient nextdoor, who was a covid patient. Discussions about if they could take him off oxygen to feed him, discussions about putting him on a ventilator. He wasn't doing very well.

On the ride home from the hospital I was informed who the covid patient in the next room was. Turned out to be someone I've known for 30 years. Can't say I ever liked him, but you can't pick who your cousins marry. He wasn't in the high risk group, he didn't have any pre-existing conditions. He wasn't admitted for something completely unrelated and then classified as a covid death because he tested positive. He got sick, had covid symptoms, got tested, was admitted, was treated and died. He wasn't involved in a car wreck on the way to the hospital. He didn't have a heart attack or an infected ingrown toenail. I'm afraid it was just plain covid all the way.

I know a few nurses, from RNs down to CNAs. One RN and a CNA I've known their entire lives. One LPN I've known for 46 years and another I've known for 12. All of them have worked with covid patients. The RN has worked almost exclusively with covid patients since April. The CNA and 1 LPN worked at a local nursing home that lost half their residents to covid over a 6 week period. The CNA now works at the hospital where I was. The other LPN works for the department of corrections and has been dealing with covid patients since early April.

Now I can assume that each of these people have been lying for months, or that each of them is incompetent and unqualified for their jobs, or I can accept their experience, knowledge and expertise. BTW, of the 4 mentioned, only 1 is a liberal, but she avoids any political discussions.

The hospitals don't get paid extra for covid cases. That was thoroughly debunked months ago. Don't you understand that if there was extra money coming in, the publicly traded healthcare stocks would be soaring? Instead they are mostly flat or losing value. Don't you think it's strange that after 5 months not one single piece of evidence has been presented to corroborate the claim that hospitals are being paid extra for covid cases? Didn't you ever wonder why, although countless people have claimed everything is being falsely labeled "covid", only one case in Florida has been found where a non-covid death was documented as covid?

Let's put it in terms you'll understand.

If a monger writes a review about a casa in Medellin, where all the girls are 18 years old and 8's or better, the facilities are better than Loutron and the price is 10 k per hour with BBBJ and anal included, plus 2 free beers, would you immediately ask for the address, or would you start asking for some proof?

If a monger tells you he's got the WhatsApp number for the current Miss Colombia along with the 1st and 2nd runner-ups and they all are available for 50 k, are you just going to believe him, or maybe call "bullshit?

If someone tells you they found a 4 bedroom penthouse with its own rooftop pool and jacuzzi, in Provenza for $10 per night are you asking for the contact info?

So why do so many people, who would question anything else, blindly accept every unsubstantiated rumor about covid?Who wrote this rambling, incoherent nonsense, Joe Biden? Lmao.

Fun Luvr
09-10-20, 21:54
The hospitals don't get paid extra for covid cases. That was thoroughly debunked months ago. The CARES Act, Sec 3710, states:

"Inpatient Prospective Payment System (IPPS) Hospitals. Section 3710 of the CARES Act directs the Secretary to increase the weighting factor of the assigned Diagnosis-Related Group (DRG) by 20 percent for an individual diagnosed with COVID-19 discharged during the COVID-19 Public Health Emergency (PHE) period."

Here's a link: https://www.cms.gov/files/document/se20015.pdf.

I think there is also an increased payment to the hospital if a Covid-19 patient dies, but searching through government legislation is tiring.

Looks like whomever thoroughly debunked the extra payment doesn't read legislation.

Osteoknot
09-11-20, 15:48
I've been in this hobby for far too many years I care to remember, makes me feel like it's time to retire. How about NO! Jaja I have always lived by the rule, never send money. There are exceptions of course, when you really care about one of these women. I have developed caring relationships with a few special women and their families so this virus has presented me with a real conundrum. To send or not to send? So I adjusted my thinking, I do send to close friend / novias but still hold to the rule not to send to random requests by women, I have never met face to face. I have some really sweet friends, single moms, students ect who are really hurting now. I have one of my friends who lost some serious weight in the last 6 months, so I know she hasn't been eating well. Plus the fact that I have a comfortable life and sending 150,000 pesos a month to my special few is not going to change my life. I have a serious girlfriend in Bogota who got her 10 visa a few years ago and we speak about the future a lot so I take care of her and her mom, all the facturas and food, her dad and mom are separated but he still pays the mortgage, so rents not a problem. I always prided my self on being a tough guy and no women going to play me but this is different, this is a matter of life or death for some families and my heart goes out to them. Just wondering how my brothers on this board are handling this situation.I have been sending money to girls, families really, since the start of COVID who I knew before I left. Pre-COVID, that is something I said I would never do. Never say never. If you were a Venezuelan girl with no passport and first to get fired, your only option if you had no money and were being evicted, is to start walking back to Venezuela and survive on handouts along the way. I could not see that for this girl, her mother, and her 4-year-old daughter. And like I said, this girl was special to me before I left. And now she is working again and does not ask for one peso. Multiply that by five families or so. I am not trying to sound like I am running a charity or that I am even a nice guy. I am not. But I gave freely without any expectations and now I have many chicas dying to show their gratitude at a very favorable exchange rate jajajaja with free places to stay. I did not think the crisis would last as long as I did but I certainly was not going to pull the rug out from under any of them. I have a Gringo acquaintance who constantly harps on me about how these girls do nothing but lie and will say anything to get money. There is some truth to that. But all I have to do is look at the quality of his string of girls who he is with one and done, and then my "harem" of 15+ steady girls, everyone of them at least an 8-9 (and I don't believe in tens), most of them employed, and fiercely loyal to me, and I say you get what you give. Not just financially, buy emotionally, too. When I return to Colombia, which will be very soon, I will have my own private sex tour of Bogota, Cali, and Medellin with some of the most beautiful Colombianas and Venezuelans you have ever seen, and I will either be staying with my girls of tipping them cab fare only for our rendezvouses. Keep on keepin' on.

LatinaLover#1
09-12-20, 03:00
I have been sending money to girls, families really, since the start of COVID who I knew before I left. Pre-COVID, that is something I said I would never do. Never say never. If you were a Venezuelan girl with no passport and first to get fired, your only option if you had no money and were being evicted, is to start walking back to Venezuela and survive on handouts along the way. I could not see that for this girl, her mother, and her 4-year-old daughter. And like I said, this girl was special to me before I left. And now she is working again and does not ask for one peso. Multiply that by five families or so. I am not trying to sound like I am running a charity or that I am even a nice guy. I am not. But I gave freely without any expectations and now I have many chicas dying to show their gratitude at a very favorable exchange rate jajajaja with free places to stay. I did not think the crisis would last as long as I did but I certainly was not going to pull the rug out from under any of them. I have a Gringo acquaintance who constantly harps on me about how these girls do nothing but lie and will say anything to get money. There is some truth to that. But all I have to do is look at the quality of his string of girls who he is with one and done, and then my "harem" of 15+ steady girls, everyone of them at least an 8-9 (and I don't believe in tens), most of them employed, and fiercely loyal to me, and I say you get what you give. Not just financially, buy emotionally, too. When I return to Colombia, which will be very soon, I will have my own private sex tour of Bogota, Cali, and Medellin with some of the most beautiful Colombianas and Venezuelans you have ever seen, and I will either be staying with my girls of tipping them cab fare only for our rendezvouses. Keep on keepin' on.Nice post, sure there have been women, maybe lots of them, playing half a dozen gringos at the same time to send money but this is different. Many, many families are flying red flags in the window to alert authorities of broke and hungry families inside. The government was supposed to give every family 100,000 cop but many applied but few received it. Even if they did how far can 100,000 pesos go. They say when you give freely you will receive 10 fold. I'm sure your next trip to Colombia will be one of your best.

LatinaLover#1
09-12-20, 03:03
The CARES Act, Sec 3710, states:

"Inpatient Prospective Payment System (IPPS) Hospitals. Section 3710 of the CARES Act directs the Secretary to increase the weighting factor of the assigned Diagnosis-Related Group (DRG) by 20 percent for an individual diagnosed with COVID-19 discharged during the COVID-19 Public Health Emergency (PHE) period."

Here's a link: https://www.cms.gov/files/document/se20015.pdf.

I think there is also an increased payment to the hospital if a Covid-19 patient dies, but searching through government legislation is tiring.

Looks like whomever thoroughly debunked the extra payment doesn't read legislation."Looks like whomever thoroughly debunked the extra payment doesn't read legislation. " obvio. Neither does jjbee62.

Chris Long
09-15-20, 05:54
Have international flights returned to Medellin?

Is there a quarantine if you go?

Thanks.

Elvis 2008
09-15-20, 20:00
Have international flights returned to Medellin?

Is there a quarantine if you go?

Thanks.No flights have been approved yet. As of now, the latest rumor is that you will not be quarantined but be tested when you arrive in Colombia.

Just Incognito
09-15-20, 22:43
No flights have been approved yet. As of now, the latest rumor is that you will not be quarantined but be tested when you arrive in Colombia.Testing upon arrival would make zero sense. If someone tests positive what happens to everyone on the plane? What happens to the crew? The people who were in line at check in? The passengers on the same plane after the flight that the infected person came in on? And now, you have a positive person who needs to be isolated and quarantined. What happens to hotel reservations? Who will bring 2 weeks of supplies-food / prescriptions other needed items to the quarantined person? Who pays for that?? Do you think Colombia wants some positive test case that just arrived taking up their hospital space? What about false positives and false negatives?

Its either negative pcr test within 72 hours of departure + registering to a track / trace program and be required to have full medical travel ad evacuation insurance. Or quarantine 14 days upon arrival--with all the insurance and monitoring etc.