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LoveItHere69
02-12-20, 22:21
Weather:
I am not happy below 60 degrees so Bogota was not for me. The temps drop below 60 degrees at 7 pm and below 50 degrees at 10 pm. The temperature does not return to 60 degrees until around 10 am. Basically 60 degrees and above for 9 hours and 15 hours of below 60 degrees. It matters to me because the ST hotels are cold if not used in the afternoon. Even though I am wearing a jacket my hands are cold so the girls do not want me touching them with my cold hands. The girl wear practically nothing which still amazes me how they can do it. So I do not want them touching me with their cold hands.
It has been fairly sunny but I have an oily complexion so my face and top of my head was fried climbing the church on the hill (Montserrat). Swear I peeled twice. Then burned the top of my head a little walking for 5 hours one day. That happened in 1 month compared to no burns when I stayed in Cucuta for 2 months and they reached high 80's low 90's every day.
Hotels:
I looked at several hotel rooms in person and San Francisco was the closest, cleanest, and best value in my opinion. I got lucky and found sale price of $17, with taxes / fees $20 a night with a good breakfast.
Street Scene:
If Centro in Medellin scares you then do not come here. It is worse. First visit was Medellin. Second Cucuta. Now Bogota and it made me the most uncomfortable. Worse sidewalks with shit, pee, and spit everywhere. But what made me uneasy was so many guys hanging out for no reason no purpose. Some were homeless, boyfriends of the girls, the boyfriend's loser friends, and what I assume were guys waiting for an opportunity to steal something.
The A, be, and CTeam Girl Areas:
The ATeam girls are prettier, the most girls, and cost more. They ask all kinds of prices. The be girls mostly ask for the same lower price, more older and ugly girls, less girls, but have some far out outfits. Never saw any girls of interest in the see group. Now where they are.
TeamA. Start at corner Calle 24 and Carrera 15 (La Piscina Night Club street).
Girls on Calle 24 between Carrera 15 Carrera and 16 a. Then down Carrera 15,16, 16 a to Calle 23. Girls on Calle 23 between Carrera 15 Carrera and 16 a.
Now walk down Carrera 15 two streets to Calle 22. Girls on Calle 22 between Carrera 16 a (2 blocks to your right) and Carrera 14 bis (gas station).
Turn left to the gas station. Then right onto Carrera 14 bis. This is where the BTeam starts. The first street is trannies. The second block has girls. You run into Calle 20. There are girls up to the corner to Carrera 16, but at the corner half are trannies. Turn right. Walk less then half a block and turn left onto Carrera 15 bis. Go to the end of the block and hit major street Calle 19. Turn left. Many trannies start here with some girls mixed in. Walk one block to Avenida Caracas. Cross Avenida Caracas.
The CTeam starts here. I never saw anything good here but never visited after dark. Very short walk half block to Carrera 13 a. Turn left. Walk 1 block. One street with older women. Now return back to Avenida Caracas. Turn left on Avenida Caracas one street to Calle 18. Turn left. Walk down Calle 18 for 3 blocks while looking both left and right up the side streets for girls as you pass them. That ends the see Team area.
MISC:
Love big boobs. I swear almost every girl with big boobs were plastic. Hate the feel of them. Some of the scars are horrible. One girl had nerve damage. Suck on the left but not the right because it hurt her. Very sad.
Saw a foreigner with a backpack on the side of the gas station (trannie area) translating away on his phone to the police. Something bad. No idea what happened but had to laugh at him.
Dentist:
www.1485dentalspa.com
Diana Medina speaks English and is pretty (see pic on website)! They charge 50,000 for exam. If you do not get any procedure done they keep the 50,000. Otherwise it applies to your bill. Reasoning is they offer free drinks and massage. I had neither. I doubt they have such a pretty massage girl that is shown on theie website.
Summary:
The cold weather made me lose 10% of my normal get-up-and-go. Used to warmer areas. The altitude caused another 10% drop in my get-up-and-go. Lastly the trash, spit, pee, shit, and bad sidewalks caused 10% of interest to run out the door. I actually saw 5 guys peeing in daylight hours. This guy and his buddy were facing the wall. Thought they were doing drugs but no. They were peeing and I nearly stepped in it as it ran down the sidewalk. This place is not for me!
FunkyTravel
02-12-20, 23:47
So far one of my all time best worldwide: https://twitter.com/encuentrosandre?lang=en been using for years and rarely disappointed. Between 70-100 $ per hour, outcall only. Specializes in students and only does 1 call per day per girl, so no tired pros there. They vet the girls, only cute GND types, GFE style.
Other agency I tried lately is https://mobile.twitter.com/schoolmodelscol, here is my review:
Found the SchoolModelsCol agency by bouncing around on Twitter. They only advertise on social media platforms and communication is through WhatsApp, but I imagine you can also call. There are some nice pictures on Twitter, but when you become a customer they let you access an online private catalogue, which has many pictures of the girls and you can see their faces. This is a big plus, because on top of seeing their delectable bodies, you also know what the girl's face will look like before she arrives. Saves you from the hot body but ugly face issue. The booker also mentioned they provide special "on request" services to established customers. Can't wait to find out.
I contacted them and after much conversation, I picked Gineth as a first date. I set-up the appointment for 2 days ahead at my hotel.
Gineth showed up on time (I didn't), so she waited in a cafe nearby. Met her outside the hotel (booker sent a picture, so it was easy to recognize her) and we went up to my room.
We talked a little and then I asked her to undress. I highly recommend Gineth and the agency, they have been very attentive to detail and they are ready to go the extra mile.
She has an amazing body. She is tiny but with a thin waist, big butt and breasts. The mix between Latin and Japanese is awesome, Gineth got the Latin curves and the Japanese breasts!
We started kissing and fondling and then she went to a BBJ while I was rubbing her clit and fingering her. She was getting aroused but I wanted the first round to be oral, so I came half on her face and half in her mouth. We showered and talked a little more.
Then when I was ready again (rather quickly), she mounted me in CG and started riding. Her beautiful breasts were straight in my face and I started sucking on those beauties, that turned her on big time. She was riding and pushing her chest into my mouth, moaning the whole time.
I turned her around and finished in doggy (I don't always get to cum a second time, never this quickly!
Loved my time with her, absolutely recommend.
Have fun!
Elvis 2008
02-13-20, 03:46
Wow. If the ones I'm talking to expect that then they'll be very unhappy.
Any negotiating tips would be welcome. I read on this from someone that he meet them at the hotel for dinner or drinks then after, basically paid what he thought. I'd be scared they would demand allot, if I did that.No offense, Deviant, but I swear I am going to have to type this every day. THE BEST SA WOMEN ARE NOT *****S. THEY DO NOT SET A PRICE. YOU ARE GIVING THEM A GIFT AND SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT EVEN WANT THAT!
You all really, really need to get out of the working girl mindset with SA. The first girl I was with in Medellin I gave 200 k to. I texted her later to see her and she said that she was unhappy with the gift but she didn't say anything at the time. I offered to give her more, but she then got more and more greedy.
Do you know what I told her? Nothing. Do you know what I told myself? NEXT!
A girl wants too much money? NEXT! There is nothing to be afraid of.
The really smart girls on SA know the payoff is in the long term, and they don't bother with how much for one visit.
I am trying to get a rotation of the best women in Colombia, and I want two in each of the three cities I have picked out. Every time I have picked out a SA girl as a repeat customer, a potential SB, the women have voluntarily taken themselves off SA. I repeat, the best women on SA are not hookers in the sense that they will fuck any guy for money. The top women will only fuck me or fuck you if you are their SD for money.
But the tip top women on SA, the very smartest, will fuck you for free if you are an American. Those are the women who are chasing the most money, the real prize and hopefully, if you are smart, you will understand why.
............Saw a foreigner with a backpack on the side of the gas station (trannie area) translating away on his phone to the police. Something bad. No idea what happened but had to laugh at him.............We're different. I would have been sympathetic.
Nevertheless, a good analysis of the Bogota street scene with details hitherto unreported on this forum.
LoveItHere69
02-13-20, 16:43
We're different. I would have been sympathetic.
Nevertheless, a good analysis of the Bogota street scene with details hitherto unreported on this forum.Trannies are boys. Boys play rough. Sometimes you get hurt (think he was robbed so no big deal). Play with trouble you find trouble. No sympathy from me.
I'm not new to mongering but this is going to be my first time in Colombia and a few more tips will be appreciated. I will be in Bogota during the first week of March for 8 days and I don't speak any Espanyol. For accommodation what would you recommend between Hotel Virrey and San Francisco? Is Facebook a good hunting ground in Bogota. Lastly how do I use my bitcoins to pay for my subscription? I already have bitcoins through cashapp but can't read the instructions on how to pay because there is always an add blocking half of the instructions page and it can't be closed.
Mr Enternational
02-13-20, 20:02
For accommodation what would you recommend between Hotel Virrey and San Francisco?I stay in both. But that depends on my plans. I hang out in Santa Fe, and SF is only a couple blocks walk. If I am only planning to chill with non-pros then I may stay at Virrey, which is a way longer walk to Santa Fe.
Is Facebook a good hunting ground in Bogota.Facebook is a Medellin thing. You are not going to get chicks off there in Bogota.
No offense, Deviant, but I swear I am going to have to type this every day. THE BEST SA WOMEN ARE NOT *****S. THEY DO NOT SET A PRICE. YOU ARE GIVING THEM A GIFT AND SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT EVEN WANT THAT!
You all really, really need to get out of the working girl mindset with SA. The first girl I was with in Medellin I gave 200 k to. I texted her later to see her and she said that she was unhappy with the gift but she didn't say anything at the time. I offered to give her more, but she then got more and more greedy.
Do you know what I told her? Nothing. Do you know what I told myself? NEXT!
A girl wants too much money? NEXT! There is nothing to be afraid of.
The really smart girls on SA know the payoff is in the long term, and they don't bother with how much for one visit.
I am trying to get a rotation of the best women in Colombia, and I want two in each of the three cities I have picked out. Every time I have picked out a SA girl as a repeat customer, a potential SB, the women have voluntarily taken themselves off SA. I repeat, the best women on SA are not hookers in the sense that they will fuck any guy for money. The top women will only fuck me or fuck you if you are their SD for money.
But the tip top women on SA, the very smartest, will fuck you for free if you are an American. Those are the women who are chasing the most money, the real prize and hopefully, if you are smart, you will understand why.LOL got it. Well some were obvious pros or seem to be but I got that's not the goal. I have only 1 that I'm really tweaked about. The language barrier knocks allot off for just hanging out. I don't mind some translate but I think it would get old.
I'm not new to mongering but this is going to be my first time in Colombia and a few more tips will be appreciated. I will be in Bogota during the first week of March for 8 days and I don't speak any Espanyol. For accommodation what would you recommend between Hotel Virrey and San Francisco? Is Facebook a good hunting ground in Bogota. Lastly how do I use my bitcoins to pay for my subscription? I already have bitcoins through cashapp but can't read the instructions on how to pay because there is always an add blocking half of the instructions page and it can't be closed.Why would you come to a Spanish-speaking country without knowing a single word of the language? Not putting in any effort and wanting to reap the benefits is like playing the Stock Market, making money off of other people's sweat. I'd give you some tips, but only if you put in the effort.
John Gault
02-13-20, 23:44
No offense, Deviant, but I swear I am going to have to type this every day. THE BEST SA WOMEN ARE NOT *****S. THEY DO NOT SET A PRICE. YOU ARE GIVING THEM A GIFT AND SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT EVEN WANT THAT!
You all really, really need to get out of the working girl mindset with SA. The first girl I was with in Medellin I gave 200 k to. I texted her later to see her and she said that she was unhappy with the gift but she didn't say anything at the time. I offered to give her more, but she then got more and more greedy.
Do you know what I told her? Nothing. Do you know what I told myself? NEXT!
A girl wants too much money? NEXT! There is nothing to be afraid of.
The really smart girls on SA know the payoff is in the long term, and they don't bother with how much for one visit.
I am trying to get a rotation of the best women in Colombia, and I want two in each of the three cities I have picked out. Every time I have picked out a SA girl as a repeat customer, a potential SB, the women have voluntarily taken themselves off SA. I repeat, the best women on SA are not hookers in the sense that they will fuck any guy for money. The top women will only fuck me or fuck you if you are their SD for money.
But the tip top women on SA, the very smartest, will fuck you for free if you are an American. Those are the women who are chasing the most money, the real prize and hopefully, if you are smart, you will understand why.I have never used SA but I think you are 100% right in your take on the real smart SA girls.
I noticed in the upscale strip clubs in different country's I have visited that some of the girls are so sharp in how they operate that it is almost breath taking to watch them spin their web.
Most guys don't have a chance.
Why would you come to a Spanish-speaking country without knowing a single word of the language? Not putting in any effort and wanting to reap the benefits is like playing the Stock Market, making money off of other people's sweat. I'd give you some tips, but only if you put in the effort.As far as speaking Spanish goes, I have learnt a few phrases through the duolingo app but still I wouldn't consider that knowing the language.
As far as speaking Spanish goes, I have learnt a few phrases through the duolingo app but still I wouldn't consider that knowing the language.Pimsleur Conversational Spanish for English Speakers is a pretty good simple method.
KilledSoul
02-14-20, 02:19
I noticed in the upscale strip clubs in different country's I have visited that some of the girls are so sharp in how they operate that it is almost breath taking to watch them spin their web.
Can you elaborate on that? Probably that will help when meet these women.
John Gault
02-14-20, 15:00
Can you elaborate on that? Probably that will help when meet these women.It is kind of hard to put into words. These real sharp girls just almost only have to look at their targets and move in to completely make some guys lose their mind over them. A example would be how when walking in a seedy area and the SW give you that half ass come on look. Well the sharp girls don't give you that sort of look. They look in your eyes and it feels like they really want to be with you. That is just the start. Once you buy some drinks for them it becomes hard to resist their charms. Last time I was in a strip club in MDE one of the most beautiful girls in the place came to my table and looked at me like I was her long lost love. It was hard to shake my head no.
So the help you ask is just for Mongers to think about reality and not be fooled into thinking they are God's gift to women. If you fail it will cost you plenty.
To understand my post you have to look at the posts I'm responding to.
Mr Enternational
02-14-20, 16:32
A example would be how when walking in a seedy area and the SW give you that half ass come on look. Well the sharp girls don't give you that sort of look. They look in your eyes and it feels like they really want to be with you. That is just the start. Once you buy some drinks for them it becomes hard to resist their charms. I like to keep things in perspective and do not fall for traps. If I see a chick I want to fuck, then I ask how much. Damn small talk and buying drinks for hoes. A chick looking at me or saying this, that, or the other has no effect. Besides, I know that an empty wagon makes the most noise I do the choosing; I don't pretend to be chosen when I coming out of the pocket.
It is kind of hard to put into words. These real sharp girls just almost only have to look at their targets and move in to completely make some guys lose their mind over them. A example would be how when walking in a seedy area and the SW give you that half ass come on look. Well the sharp girls don't give you that sort of look. They look in your eyes and it feels like they really want to be with you. That is just the start. Once you buy some drinks for them it becomes hard to resist their charms. Last time I was in a strip club in MDE one of the most beautiful girls in the place came to my table and looked at me like I was her long lost love. It was hard to shake my head no.
So the help you ask is just for Mongers to think about reality and not be fooled into thinking they are God's gift to women. If you fail it will cost you plenty.
To understand my post you have to look at the posts I'm responding to.Her name was Misty.
Twenty years ago she was 5 ft 6 inches and 100 pounds of blonde haired, green eyed beauty. She was 27 and perfect. If she had been 4 to 6 inches taller she'd have graced every magazine cover in the world.
I was 10 years older, tall, fit and handsome. Over the previous 8 years I'd gained confidence and was a minor sensation with women online. The internet had exploded and I'd been early to the game. All over the US, lonely women were eager to meet me.
I arrived at a friend's house in San Antonio, TX on Sunday morning, 12 hours late for the party. My friend was a 40 something woman, successful and divorced. Her backyard was nice, private and clothing optional. I spent the midday hanging out naked in the pool with her and another woman. They left me there to pick up Misty from the airport.
When she walked in, I was wearing nothing but a towel and my jaw dropped. I'd met beautiful women, but she was in an entirely different league. I didn't have a chance. I just hoped to see that body naked in the pool.
Three hours later, we were fucking and I was convinced I'd won her over. My planned overnight stay lasted a week and when I left, she left with me.
She stayed for 4 months, never more than 20 feet away. It was another 4 months, before I finally broke the spell she'd cast on me. By that time she had an executive, a bar owner and a contractor in Dallas all convinced she was madly in love with them.
Other than the emotional damage, I got off cheaply; about $5,000 on her over the 8 month period with 4 months of all the sex I could handle. She wasn't after my money. She was bored and wanted to keep her skills sharp.
When someone writes about a woman falling for them, I'm cynical. When she's at the bottom of the economic ladder and you're somewhere between the middle and the top, there's always an ulterior motive. It doesn't matter if she's as pure as Ivory soap. She sees dollar signs. You're spending enough money for her to support her family for 6 to 12 months, for a week's vacation.
Understand, most are good people. They're not trying to scam you. Most honestly believe they love you. You treat them nice, you're sweet, you buy them nice things, but your money is like a Snapchat filter; it turns a John Goodman into a Brad Pitt.
Her name was Misty.
Twenty years ago she was 5 ft 6 inches and 100 pounds of blonde haired, green eyed beauty. She was 27 and perfect. If she had been 4 to 6 inches taller she'd have graced every magazine cover in the world.
I was 10 years older, tall, fit and handsome. Over the previous 8 years I'd gained confidence and was a minor sensation with women online. The internet had exploded and I'd been early to the game. All over the US, lonely women were eager to meet me.
I arrived at a friend's house in San Antonio, TX on Sunday morning, 12 hours late for the party. My friend was a 40 something woman, successful and divorced. Her backyard was nice, private and clothing optional. I spent the midday hanging out naked in the pool with her and another woman. They left me there to pick up Misty from the airport.
When she walked in, I was wearing nothing but a towel and my jaw dropped. I'd met beautiful women, but she was in an entirely different league. I didn't have a chance. I just hoped to see that body naked in the pool.
Three hours later, we were fucking and I was convinced I'd won her over. My planned overnight stay lasted a week and when I left, she left with me..It is normal. People marry girls, spend their lives and all money to be fucked by their wives. Look at the divorce data in USA, Canada, etc. You spent $5000 over 8 months and had, as you said, all the sex you could handle. It looks like, you've scammed her or she made you a present spending her time for almost no money. Maybe you just did not meet her expectations. What she can expect from you? Create sex? It is funny. They have 5-10 partners a day. As any normal woman they want family and good life. Love comes and goes, but you want to eat every day. As I understand, here most of the people want to save some money. Every second post is about "How to save a few bucks". To understand her, try to be in her shoes. Dear friends don't be fooled, those girls sleep spreed their legs not because you are great lovers / fuckers / Brad Pitt / etc. Not because they want or can't have sex. They just try to make living. So pay money or use your hands.
It is normal. People marry girls, spend their lives and all money to be fucked by their wives. Look at the divorce data in USA, Canada, etc. You spent $5000 over 8 months and had, as you said, all the sex you could handle. It looks like, you've scammed her or she made you a present spending her time for almost no money. Maybe you just did not meet her expectations. What she can expect from you? Create sex? It is funny. They have 5-10 partners a day. As any normal woman they want family and good life. Love comes and goes, but you want to eat every day. As I understand, here most of the people want to save some money. Every second post is about "How to save a few bucks". To understand her, try to be in her shoes. Dear friends don't be fooled, those girls sleep spreed their legs not because you are great lovers / fuckers / Brad Pitt / etc. Not because they want or can't have sex. They just try to make living. So pay money or use your hands.As John Gault said, to understand my posts you have to read the posts I'm responding to.
The subject isn't paying for sex. I don't want to brag, but I consider myself an expert at handing a girl money after she fucks me.
The subject is the women who have mastered the art of convincing men they aren't paying for sex. Woman who make you think you're investing in a relationship.
Most of these girls are good at making us believe they enjoy our company. A few are so good it's easy to forget we're paying for their company. Of course some guys are just easy to fool.
For the record, if Misty had offered to live with me, just as a fuck buddy until either of us got bored, I'd only have saved about $1000. But the emotional damage would have been less.
No need to put myself in her shoes, either. Her mother and friends explained it to me. I was there, she was bored and she didn't have anything else going on. She knew she could wrap me around her little finger and she did. Then she dangled the prize in front of me to see how long I'd dance.
I consider it a very good investment. I learned a great deal, had incredible sex and got an awesome dog out of the deal.
The guy who followed me wasn't so lucky. He ended up buying her an Audi.
..........These real sharp girls just almost only have to look at their targets and move in to completely make some guys lose their mind over them.............With me in spite of their modus operandi the bottom line is I either want to fuck the girl or I don't. If I want to then no matter her approach I will take her to bed. If I don't want to then only pity for the girl will make me go with her and years of experience has made me avoid pity fucks.
The guy who followed me wasn't so lucky. He ended up buying her an Audi.Jesus, I can't even imagine that. Money to blow is a foreign concept to me. I've had a lot of girlfriends over the years, and none of them were with me for the money. It's easy for me to tell, because I don't have any money. I travel when I can because it's what I like to do, maybe a trip once a year, two smaller ones if I'm lucky. The rest of the time I'm working odd jobs to pay the bills. I'm sure compared to most guys on this forum my bank account looks like a steaming pile of dog shit, but the up side is when a girl gets with me, I know it's real. First dates usually consist of a fast food joint, and if she can get over the fact that I drive a rusted out shit box, I know I've got her. They might get with me for physical reasons, but I'm okay with that. In this respect, I consider myself very lucky that I've never been taken for a ride.
Mr Enternational
02-15-20, 16:00
The subject is the women who have mastered the art of convincing men they aren't paying for sex. Woman who make you think you're investing in a relationship.And you know what my problem with those women is? Well I should say those women's problem with me. And I tell them this. I am looking for an asset, not a liability. In other words, I am not looking to take on the responsibility of paying someone else's bills. These women are looking for a bank, not a boyfriend. Big difference.
My girlfriend is a school lunch lady in a country town in Brazil. She has to ride the bus all night in order to get to the closest city with an airport. That is how country where she lives is. The other day we were supposed to meet in a certain city to start a trip. She missed her flight the first day (did not check in online like I told her to do) so she would not arrive until evening the next day. I don't know if she had to pay to change the ticket or whatever. She never brought that up to me. What I do know is that because we would have to stay an extra night in the hotel because of her late arrival, she called the hotel and made a bank transfer to pay for the extra night before she even got there. That is the type of woman I look for.
On the flip side, I had bought a ticket for a chick in Barranquilla to meet me in Bogota. I paid like $150 round trip. She had to borrow money from her mother to get to the airport. She got there in time but did not know she was supposed to go through security, so she end up missing the flight. That was the last flight of the day. She did not have money to get back home. No idea how she ended up getting back. I have not talked to her since that day and I was pizzed to waste $150 like that. That is not the kind of lady that I look for.
I can not fathom giving a chick that is supposed to be my girlfriend money here and money there. I throw money at hookers for the variety. I know that I can not buy love. So what advantage does it give me to throw money at some chick I am supposed to be in a relationship with? None as far as I can see.
I am of the IronQuinn school. I have money because I only give it to chicks that can tell me how much it is going to cost me and how long she is staying. I know a chick is not with me for money because I do not give them any. Late rent, empty pantries, and school clothes or books for kids ain't none of my fucking business. And when a chick does ask, without warning that is the end of us seeing each other.
On the flip side, I had bought a ticket for a chick in Barranquilla to meet me in Bogota. I paid like $150 round trip. She had to borrow money from her mother to get to the airport. She got there in time but did not know she was supposed to go through security, so she end up missing the flight. That was the last flight of the day. She did not have money to get back home. No idea how she ended up getting back. I have not talked to her since that day and I was pizzed to waste $150 like that. That is not the kind of lady that I look for..I think sometimes you make this stuff up, LOL.
Can someone really be this cold?
Some little country bumpkin from Barranquilla gets stuck cause she's naive to traveling and you just leave her cold.
I know you'll have some good line about, ain't your fault, not your problem, etc, etc.
Guess you skipped the empathy line, on creation.
However, once again, to each their own.
Obviously you can live with yourself treating girls like that.
You'll have a good rationalization of why, you write well actually, and that's great for you.
I’m not a fool, I don’t throw money around like a bobo, I don’t let women take advantage of me, however, I do know that things happen, and I’d never leave someone stranded unless they did something with bad intentions.
And you know what my problem with those women is? Well I should say those women's problem with me. And I tell them this. I am looking for an asset, not a liability. In other words, I am not looking to take on the responsibility of paying someone else's bills. These women are looking for a bank, not a boyfriend. Big difference.
My girlfriend is a school lunch lady in a country town in Brazil. She has to ride the bus all night in order to get to the closest city with an airport. That is how country where she lives is. The other day we were supposed to meet in a certain city to start a trip. She missed her flight the first day (did not check in online like I told her to do) so she would not arrive until evening the next day. I don't know if she had to pay to change the ticket or whatever. She never brought that up to me. What I do know is that because we would have to stay an extra night in the hotel because of her late arrival, she called the hotel and made a bank transfer to pay for the extra night before she even got there. That is the type of woman I look for..Sometimes, when I'm following right along with you, you make a hard left turn and lose me completely.
Looking for an asset? Check.
Expect accountability? Check.
Be a boyfriend not a bank? Check.
Pay $150 to fly a girl from Barranquilla to Bogota? What are you doing over there? You've already got a girl in Bogota, plus Santa Fe. Besides, Viva flies nonstop for about $50 round trip. Then just leave her stranded at the airport? That's a complete you-turn. Something about her was good enough to invest the equivalent of 10 Santa Fe fucks, to get her to Bogota, where you've already got more pussy than a crazy cat lady convention, but you're not willing to pay another $10 to keep those legs open the next time you're in Barranquilla? Or pay nothing at all and just give her 5 minutes of sympathy. Considering what you had already spent, you just screwed yourself to ruin someone else's day.
I'm not sure I'd call what you do a relationship. "I'll be in town for 3 days. We can fuck Tuesday at 10 am and Thursday at 3 pm. Don't be late and don't wear any make-up. Maybe I'll take you out for a drink Thursday night. " There's no reason to throw money at that, especially considering how many of those relationships you have going on around the world. Worst case, there's always plenty of hookers until you find another "girlfriend."
My view is different. If I like someone enough to fly her in, I'm committed. I'm asking if she's ever flown before. I'm walking her through the process. I'm making sure she is going to be on the plane. For the period we've agreed on, I've adopted her. She's my responsibility. I'll also impress upon her that she has responsibilities, mainly to be on the plane. If we're not both committed, I'm wasting money.
If the plane has a problem and diverts to Bucaramanga, I do what needs to be done to get her either to me, or back home. If I'm not willing to see the whole thing through until she's back home safe, there's no way I'm springing for a plane ticket. If she's worth the expense, she's worth enough to see it through.
The same holds true for a girl who catches a taxi to my apartment. Either I'm cancelling before she gets in the taxi, or I'm paying the taxi to take her home if I turn her away.
Well had a good first day or very good. I didn't get to the hotel till about 2 am then got up about 5:30. The SA girl I was tweaked had gotten a bit cold and business like on whatsapp. I agreed to 350 but I wanted much of her time. I meet the SA girl and we walked she spoke English fairly well and I enjoyed her company. I'm staying at the a hotel but I had gotten an airbnb. We went to the airbnb and it was a bit weird. We had to get buzzed in and she had to explain to the doorman. I didn't have my luggage (at the hotel) and of course I had the young girl with me. The desk guy called the owner and the SA girl spoke to her. Anyway, I'm hoping to keep both, but stay in the hotel. We'll see, as it's got to be obvious, I just want to use the airbnb as a fuck pad.
Anyway, that's what we did. She was so tight. It was covered, and, mostly, I can't even get off like that, but I did (eventually); not the same level, but still really enjoyed it. I know it's more many of you guys would pay but I really enjoyed the time I spent with her. I may try just a local guide site tomorrow. I can do sex separately, if I want it, but I enjoyed her as a translator as well (even if not cheap). I do hope to see here again. I was so enthralled I spent a lot of time on her. She said she enjoyed it 'too much'. Course that didn't really translate for me.
I sent woodman a email but, honestly, I may be asleep by the time he responds. Been a good day, but a long one.
Maybe I can catch up with him later.
Elvis 2008
02-16-20, 00:10
When someone writes about a woman falling for them, I'm cynical. When she's at the bottom of the economic ladder and you're somewhere between the middle and the top, there's always an ulterior motive. It doesn't matter if she's as pure as Ivory soap. She sees dollar signs. You're spending enough money for her to support her family for 6 to 12 months, for a week's vacation.
Understand, most are good people. They're not trying to scam you. Most honestly believe they love you. You treat them nice, you're sweet, you buy them nice things, but your money is like a Snapchat filter; it turns a John Goodman into a Brad Pitt.Well, since I started this, I might as well expand on it. The typical short term working girl is going to try to get as many $$$ as she can when she meets you. As long as guys know the game, and they usually do, this is the expected behavior, a short term negotiation.
What I meant by the better ones not asking for money straight up is the second most sought after prize is a visa to America. I had a fiance visa where a girl stupidly broke up with me. I thank my stars on that now as she would have crushed me as I have seen how greedy and stubborn she was. One of the reasons I had such a hard time with this was how irrational she was being, but I am glad that I had the experience because I learned from it.
If the women can come to America and figure out a way to stay, and they have a transferable degree, they can make 10 X more than they can in Colombia, if they are willing to work, which is an issue for so many of them. I know a woman who sadly just got rejected for a visa. She knew everything about salaries in America from her cousins. She would have been an asset here in America. She is a pretty girl, a solid citizen, and a hard worker.
Of course, the big prize in marriage. It is funny that you say that JJBee about not being lower class because the most recent prospect I met is kind of upper class or upper middle class. She is crazy about me (and I her) comes from a well to do family, and it has an entirely different feel. She has offered to pay for my hotel, buy me cologne, hell she has even offered to sign a prenup. I haven't met anyone like her.
People may say because her family is wealthy she is not greedy, but she is in the sense that she can make out so well money wise from me even if it is not from me directly. Free room, free board, a portion of my pension if I were to die, a home if I die, a huge increase in her income, and the knowledge I have with investing and in my profession. She is so much smarter than anyone else I have met because she really sees the big money in the long term when so few do. That is why she was insulted when I even offered to give her a gift after sex. Every night I call her, and every night we have phone sex. She insists on it. I agree with what ME has said about wanting an asset versus a liability; it is just so hard to find one who gets that, and this one is unique in that she gets being an asset.
I have always thought there is huge money to be made in South America if you could find people to trust. Well, her family has done it, and she already has ideas about how we could earn money in the USA and retire to Colombia. Her family has run successful businesses there and know what it takes and how it can be done.
She even knows it. She told me that she had seven guys who currently want to go out with her, and she has had five boyfriends even though she is in her mid 20's. It is not like she is drop dead gorgeous but more like cute and just very bubbly. She told me the reason so many guys want to date her is, "I am pretty and fun but I also work hard. Most pretty girls do not work that hard here. " I could say that is much the same in the sex prison. Given that she has already made me a fantastic meal and gave me a killer massage and fucked the shit out of me, I believe her. I just have to make sure that she is not crazy.
Even if they are not interested in getting a visa, just getting to know the businessman traveling into their country may yield results. My ex spoke English, was so hot that when she dressed up every guy in the room who wasn't gay was drooling over her, and she had a charisma about her. So she could have made contacts. I told her that every American businessman is looking for a local they can trust, can translate honestly for them, and are looking to increase their sales. You just show them you want to be an asset and prove you are, and they will throw money at you. Sucking out money for the short term is what they always see especially with beautiful women and third world countries. The difference between Saudi Arabia and Venezuela is Venezuela did all it could to fuck over American and other foreign oil companies whereas the Saudis, as messed up as they are, worked with the oil companies for their mutual benefit.
Still, I have told the women that I have been serious with about the pitfalls of my engagement. I am only going to pay at most what a boyfriend pays and that is when we are together, and I am not going to be monogamous unless I directly say so. Of all the things that I am upset about with my ex was that I was in the land of cheap pussy, I was paying her an allowance because I thought she was going to be my wife, and she was refusing me sex. I am now painfully clear on this subject even with the women I am serious with. I am not giving away my monogamy for nothing. Spare me the shit about how faithful you are. I was engaged and there was a whole portion of my ex's life she hid from me. They are all like, "I am not like your ex", but there is no way for me to know otherwise.
Mr Enternational
02-16-20, 00:39
Pay $150 to fly a girl from Barranquilla to Bogota? What are you doing over there? You've already got a girl in Bogota, plus Santa Fe. Besides, Viva flies nonstop for about $50 round trip. Then just leave her stranded at the airport? That's a complete you-turn. Something about her was good enough to invest the equivalent of 10 Santa Fe fucks, to get her to Bogota, where you've already got more pussy than a crazy cat lady convention, but you're not willing to pay another $10 to keep those legs open the next time you're in Barranquilla? Or pay nothing at all and just give her 5 minutes of sympathy. Considering what you had already spent, you just screwed yourself to ruin someone else's day.I gave the general idea. I did not give all the minute details. I had been talking to this chick online for over a year. I was coming to Colombia and I didn't want to be running all over the country this time. So I was going to get her down to Bogota for a day and a half because I would have other things going on after that. So I needed the times to match up for the flights. Viva does not have as many flights as Avianca.
She had flown before but forgot about the security part. As a matter of fact one of the pictures in her profile was her inside the plane and that is how I initially started talking to her. I asked where she went.
After she told me that she missed the flight I looked online to see if anyone else had a flight leaving out. There was one. I forgot what compnay. But I told her to tell them I could give her my credit card number for the ticket. They said they would have to have the actual card. Must have been about 8:30 or 9 pm. How the hell could I get her some money to the airport in Barranquilla at that time? All options were exhausted on my end.
I didn't just say too bad so sad when she said she missed the flight. I am a foreigner in the country and I am in a city hundreds of miles away. She is in the place she grew up in.
So far one of my all time best worldwide: https://twitter.com/encuentrosandre?lang=en been using for years and rarely disappointed. Between 70-100 $ per hour, outcall only. Specializes in students and only does 1 call per day per girl, so no tired pros there. They vet the girls, only cute GND types, GFE style.
Other agency I tried lately is https://mobile.twitter.com/schoolmodelscol
!Funky, thanks for sharing those! I'm not a twitter guy so would have never come across them otherwise. I've added both of them to my whatsapp and will have to set up some dates in between the the MPs / casas and Santa FE when I go in 3 weeks.
Cheers,
Lew.
My view is different. If I like someone enough to fly her in, I'm committed. I'm asking if she's ever flown before. I'm walking her through the process. I'm making sure she is going to be on the plane. For the period we've agreed on, I've adopted her. She's my responsibility. I'll also impress upon her that she has responsibilities, mainly to be on the plane. If we're not both committed, I'm wasting money.
If the plane has a problem and diverts to Bucaramanga, I do what needs to be done to get her either to me, or back home. If I'm not willing to see the whole thing through until she's back home safe, there's no way I'm springing for a plane ticket. If she's worth the expense, she's worth enough to see it through.
The same holds true for a girl who catches a taxi to my apartment. Either I'm cancelling before she gets in the taxi, or I'm paying the taxi to take her home if I turn her away.Right on JjB!
You can order someone an UBER, Taxi, etc from a continent away if needed.
To each their own, but I agree with you completely here.
I spent the first half of the day at the Sunday Market then hit up Sante Fe I followed instructions from here https://girlsheavens.com/strip-clubs-in-bogota/ and went up 24 and turned on 15. I circled a few times and found a pretty Venezuelan. I over did and asked for an hour. (I just don't want to be rushed) she was very good. Covered and in territory that I wasn't completely comfortable in. (My guess is that's a good thing, keep wits about) Anyway, I paid 150 for an hour. She was going to let me go twice but I can't turn over that quickly. Prob at least 15 - 30 before I could try again. Anyway it went well but felt a rushed and again it took some effort on my part. Nothing against her, she was great.
I think I'll try a preppago next. Although, even though I've read it somewhere before, I'm not sure exactly how you pre-pay an independent from say that prepago photo site. I just like it because you can search for exactly what you want.
Tip-- either bring an unlocked phone or try to unlock it before you come. I have Tmobile and although I think well of them in general, I had hell trying to get my phone to work. I used a internet only sim yesterday and then today it locked and wouldn't connect. Had to spend hours trying to figure it out this morning.
First day SA was great. Second Santa Fe girl. Tomorrow, I'll try the prep.
Anyway, I'll take any advice.
Oh picked up antibiotics and plan-be. If nothing else cheap to take home but maybe I can give one away tomorrow.
They didn't have diazapam and clonazepam they had, but wanted prescription.
I think I'll try a preppago next. Although, even though I've read it somewhere before, I'm not sure exactly how you pre-pay an independent from say that prepago photo site. I just like it because you can search for exactly what you want. LOL, it's just a word. You pay, not PRE-pay. Actually, do NOT prepay before getting serviced or you're almost guaranteed a lousy fuck.
Also, don't want to burst your bubble, but you shouldn't trust what you see or read on Photoprepago. Try to find girls with reviews.
Mr Enternational
02-17-20, 14:18
I spent the first half of the day at the Sunday Market then hit up Sante Fe I followed instructions from here https://girlsheavens.com/strip-clubs-in-bogota/ and went up 24 and turned on 15. I circled a few times and found a pretty Venezuelan. I over did and asked for an hour. (I just don't want to be rushed) she was very good. Covered and in territory that I wasn't completely comfortable in. (My guess is that's a good thing, keep wits about) Anyway, I paid 150 for an hour. I think they saw the rich foreigner coming. Next time you should try to negotiate. In 15 years I have never even been told an initial price that high in Sante Fe for 1 hour. (Don't think I even paid that much in La Piscina.) You can get overnight for that. For 1 hour you should be paying no more than 80.
Tip-- either bring an unlocked phone or try to unlock it before you come. I have Tmobile and although I think well of them in general, I had hell trying to get my phone to work. I used a internet only sim yesterday and then today it locked and wouldn't connect. Had to spend hours trying to figure it out this morning.I have T-mobile as well. If you bought the phone from them, there should be an unlock app on it where you can unlock it yourself 6 times for 30 days each time until you pay the phone off. There is no need to buy phones from carriers anymore. You come out better buying one from the manufacturer that is already unlocked.
TimeKeeper281
02-19-20, 02:24
Hey guys,
I am a Medellin vet. I want to do a little Bogota high rolling on the North Side. Can anyone point me to an airbnb building that won't give me shit? I usually stay at Energy in Medellin.
KangarooTed
02-19-20, 10:34
Hey guys,
Can anyone point me to an airbnb building that won't give me shit? I usually stay at Energy in Medellin.Yes I can.
99% of Airbnb's will not give you shit. The only ones to avoid are ones where the owner notes how helpful they are as they are in the unit next door or live in the same building. Or where it specifically states no guests in the Airbnb info on that apartment, which is very very few.
I think they saw the rich foreigner coming. Next time you should try to negotiate. In 15 years I have never even been told an initial price that high in Sante Fe for 1 hour. (Don't think I even paid that much in La Piscina.) You can get overnight for that. For 1 hour you should be paying no more than 8..Already have unlocked phone at home. It came in right before I left, but I didn't want to try and mess with it yet. All my info is on my current phone.
I'm open to any suggestions. I'll try to negotiate more but in truth I'd rather pay more for GFE.
Oh I did try one of those that was from an earlier post. The first of the two twitter agencies. It replied they only went to homes. I could have probably used the airbnb, but I was comfortable in the hotel.
Hey guys,
I am a Medellin vet. I want to do a little Bogota high rolling on the North Side. Can anyone point me to an airbnb building that won't give me shit? I usually stay at Energy in Medellin.I don't know of any buildings where all or most are OK with guests. So nothing like Energy as far as I know. Just have to search Airbnb, read the "rules" section for each one, and ask the owner if you find one you like. Just a note. As you read the rules section for an Airbnb listing make sure you go to the second page (scroll down) as the rules for guests are not always at the top.
TimeKeeper281
02-20-20, 00:15
I appreciate it guys. I obviously will read the rules. If it is check in with doorman, I know they are not around. I will tip security as well. The girls I bring back don't look like pros. But I am high volume. Is the El Chico area ok?
Mr Enternational
02-20-20, 01:20
I'm open to any suggestions. I'll try to negotiate more but in truth I'd rather pay more for GFE.How do you figure paying more gets GFE? I always pay as less as I can, but somehow almost always get GFE.
SamPeter71
02-20-20, 03:23
I will be at Bogota for 10 days from 29th March. I am trying to decide between staying at ibis hotel vs airbnb.
I prefer to stay close to public transport and walkable to San Fe action. This will help me to walk, use public transport or user / taxi depending on the time of the day.
Any suggestions / thoughts?
Also if you have any suggested girl friendly airbnb, please pm the same.
If anyone is around same time, I would love to explore together. I hope to explore all areas from noth to south per the detailed reports given by seniors.
MjTravelLove
02-20-20, 06:09
Any advice about finding chicas on FB for Bogota? It's a big thing in MED, but I prefer Bogota. I just don't see much out there. Any leads?
I have had great success on Cupid, but wan to try other platforms?
Any advice?
I heard abut seeking arrangement, but don't know about it. Does it work?
Are there any sites in Spanish. Colombian sites?
How is TINDER in Bogota? Is that a thing?
Thanks guys!
MjT.
Any advice about finding chicas on FB for Bogota? It's a big thing in MED, but I prefer Bogota. I just don't see much out there. Any leads?
I have had great success on Cupid, but wan to try other platforms?
Any advice?
I heard abut seeking arrangement, but don't know about it. Does it work?
Are there any sites in Spanish. Colombian sites?
How is TINDER in Bogota? Is that a thing?
Thanks guys!
MjT.I know a lot of guys who have had a lot of luck with Tinder. I live 2 blocks from Santa Fe so that keeps me busy.
Any advice about finding chicas on FB for Bogota? It's a big thing in MED, but I prefer Bogota. I just don't see much out there. Any leads?
I have had great success on Cupid, but wan to try other platforms?
Any advice?
I heard abut seeking arrangement, but don't know about it. Does it work?
Are there any sites in Spanish. Colombian sites?
How is TINDER in Bogota? Is that a thing?
Thanks guys!
MjT.There really isn't a Facebook scene in Bogota. There are quite a few girls using Twitter. Search for prepago and masaje.
KangarooTed
02-20-20, 09:52
I appreciate it guys. I obviously will read the rules. If it is check in with doorman, I know they are not around. I will tip security as well. The girls I bring back don't look like pros. But I am high volume. Is the El Chico area ok?I'm sending you a PM with a couple of recommendations. In my experience, doorman and security are armed with a wave, and a gun. You and the ladies get the wave.
Mr Enternational
02-20-20, 13:54
Any advice about finding chicas on FB for Bogota? It's a big thing in MED, but I prefer Bogota. I just don't see much out there. Any leads?Scroll down or do a search. All these things have been talked about within the last 2 weeks.
LoverBoy1024
02-20-20, 23:06
I arrived from Medellin about 5:30 pm and sailed through getting my bag. I had asked the hotel to pick me up but nobody was there so I got a taxi. Just walked outside and hopped in a yellow cab. The cab driver was very cool. He spoke English pretty good and pointed out some places along the way. He said the place I was staying was Ok but to be sure and not walk down Avenida Caracas. I innocently asked him "why"? He said "there is a lot of drugs and prostitution there". "Oh, OK", I said. When he dropped me off he asked for 27 k pesos. The hotel was going to charge me 49 k.
I am staying at Hotel La Sabana which is within walking distance of some good museums as well as the disparaged Santa Fe area (just past Avenida Caracas). I unpacked my bags and started walking South. I was thinking I would go to a burger joint, but on the way I just wasn't hungry. So I went to the strip club on Avenida 8 called Casa Show Pasarela on the Google map. (Although it might be called something different now). 5 pesos for a beer. Girl alcohol drink 10 pesos. There were some good looking girls there and some not so much. Dark in there and smoky. I asked a girl about going to the room and she quoted me 60 k including the room. But it was only like 15 minutes. Compared to a lap dance it was a little longer as in the US and for $17 was $3 less expensive. Not to mention there was actually full body contact. But after Medellin I was really disappointed.
So I couldn't just go back to the club and enjoy another beer and the show because that girl was expecting to sit with me. I finished the beer and headed for Santa Fe (right after my taxi driver warned me not to!
I must have just walked as far as Calle 20 on Avenida Caracas when I started to see the street party that is Santa Fe. Lots and lots of people on the sides of the street with food venders etc. One old lady came out to entice me into her bar on the corner (I think CL. 20 ##14-32) and promised a beautiful girl, but all I saw were guys drinking so I passed. Then a school girl comes up to sell me something to raise money for school probably. It's like I have a sign on my back or something "GRINGO".
I cross the street and see people everywhere. One girl catches my attention and asks me to go with her for 37000. At this point I should have pulled out my contracts but wasn't sure if things are different here than Medellin. I just went with it. The hotel was 10 k and kind of mediocre. The girl gave me a CBJ and kept her top on. Otherwise she was cool, but I stopped about 20 minutes in because she had a cold. There was no knock on the door.
So I go out and walk around a bit until I get across the street from Texas bar on Carrara 16 and Calle 23 and I am just standing on the corner taking it all in. One of the guys touting the bar comes up and starts talking to me in English he promises me really pretty girls and (I look at the menu in his hand 15 k beer). Well I was going to pass but instead followed him in and got a 6 k water. All the girls were anything but "really pretty". I finished the water and left.
I walked up and down some streets, got queried by some beggars. Girls seemed friendly enough. I picked another girl and asked her how much. She said something like 37 k too. But this time I took out my contract for 30 minutes and showed it to her. (I talk about my contract in the Medellin thread). She said sure, let's go. So we walked quite a distance to a hotel. The price was 7 k (half hour). The room was nice and then she starts to re-negotiate. 37 k is not enough for everything on my contract. She wants 50 k. I thought about leaving. Could have left. But it was going to be worth it; so I stayed. She really left me wanting more when she looked at her watch and said "times up" (in Spanish of course). No knock yet! Whatever. We started cleaning up and then the knock.
As I walked back to hotel La Sabana on Calle 24 a female street urchin starts asking me for money and follows me to Avenida Caracas. After that it was an uneventful walk home.
Hey everyone,
This will be my first time in Bogota so I will need some help and assistance. I've been to many other mongering countries like: Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Costa Rica, Prague, Greece, and Mexico (Tijuana). I prefer the gogo bar / strip club brothels but I wanted to see if I can order a hottie straight to my room. I know there is a massive amount of sex work in Bogota and Medellin so I want to try it out. I will probably do the casas and clubs but I need solid online recommendations. I always contribute when I can especially to the Asian threads. Happy Mongering everyone and thanks in advance for the help.
Hey everyone,
This will be my first time in Bogota so I will need some help and assistance. I've been to many other mongering countries like: Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Costa Rica, Prague, Greece, and Mexico (Tijuana). I prefer the gogo bar / strip club brothels but I wanted to see if I can order a hottie straight to my room. I know there is a massive amount of sex work in Bogota and Medellin so I want to try it out. I will probably do the casas and clubs but I need solid online recommendations. I always contribute when I can especially to the Asian threads. Happy Mongering everyone and thanks in advance for the help.There are many escort agencies in Bogota. Just search Google for "Prepagos" and you'll find a bunch of them.
Escort agencies are the second most expensive options in Bogota after the north side strip clubs. At the low end of the scale, you can pay around $10-$12 US. On the high end prices start around $100. A great number of options are available in the $50 range.
Bango Cheito
02-22-20, 07:43
Don't know what the bullshit with the Tinder is in Bogota. Whenever I click on someone, nobody clicks back. The few that do, do it 4 days later after I have already left.
So yesterday while I was in Barranquilla, a beautiful 22 year old chick in Bogota clicked me back. She wanted to pussyfoot around, while I was trying to get to the root. Finally went to whatsapp where I pulled out of her that she would come stay with me all night for 280K. I said no way. That is way too much. She asked if I was one of the guys that pay 100K. I said that I mess with a lot of normal women so it is usually 0. But I am willing to help if she would give me a more realistic price. She said 230. I said yes, but that will include your taxi or bus or transmilenio or whatever. She said sure. So when I get back to Bogota Wednesday, she is supposed to come in the afternoon and stay til the next day.
Here is my question. When she was telling me about the 280, she said that one place she works charges 300K/30 min. That is when I told her that I didn't need to know about places because of free chicks. It didn't hit me til later on last night. So today I asked what place. She would not tell me exactly, but said in Zona Rosa there is some disco on 86. Does anyone know what.Dude, that's Casanovas. Basic be*es for 300 k and the touts have been known to mug people LOL.
Bango Cheito
02-22-20, 07:56
Hi guys,
I will be in Bogota (and Medellin) at the end of this month and I have a very specific question.
On my first trip there, I was hanging out, discovering a few clubs by myself, but after leaving, a taxi took me to a place I do unfortunately not remember the name or location. That is where you come into play, I would like to describe the place for you to see if it does seem like a place you know (because I would like to reach there when I will go back).
From what I remember, it was really looking like a house, a real big one, outside and inside. The main room was very large, with tables so you can seat and drink. There was a great amount of light inside (in comparison to dark clubs, it was really bright inside), seemed like there was marble, the ceiling was really high, all this giving the impression of a very luxury place. The line up there was made of around 60 beautiful women at the time I went, in 2016 I believe. I also think that it was on the north side of the city.
The atmosphere was calm, I would not say quiet, just calm.
Does anybody feels like this place remind him of somewhere?
I do thank you in advance.This is almost certainly Lido's. Super expensive in there. I heard girls charging 800 k for ST.
BlueChange
02-22-20, 15:21
Beware of this number.
3115956869.
Uses these fake profiles.
It's a bait and switch.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/carolain-22-anos-experta-disponibilidad-24-horas/15912249/
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/bosa/chica-extrovertida-quiero-tener-sexo-contigo-no-me-hagas-esperar-tanto-id-88fdw
I;m just putting this so it goes into the database of fake profiles and avoid anyone else from having to deal with nonese of bait & switch.
There are many escort agencies in Bogota. Just search Google for "Prepagos" and you'll find a bunch of them.
Escort agencies are the second most expensive options in Bogota after the north side strip clubs. At the low end of the scale, you can pay around $10-$12 US. On the high end prices start around $100. A great number of options are available in the $50 range.I used photoprepagos.com. Filter the ones that have the thumbs up recommendations reviews. Most seem to be around $100 k - $150 k and seem concentrated on the north side of Bogota, Usanquen and chapi ero. Some are incall and some do outcall. If you go for an incall I used Didi app to get there. It's basically like Colombian uber since Uber got kicked out of Colombia. It's been pretty reliable and cheap. If you do happen to do an incall in Usanquen, it seems like a pretty safe residential area.
SamPeter71
02-23-20, 06:29
Any suggested places for currency exchange. I will be using money changers not bank / ATM as I will have some physical $$.
Also do we need to convert only daily needs the amount in cop is large.
Any pointers will be appreciated.
Thanks.
SamPeter71
02-24-20, 01:35
I read lot of past posts in preparation for my upcoming trip. I never go to any mongering trip more than 4 days. This is my 1st trip with 10+ days.
I am mostly into girls from 18 to 22 years age. Are there any options to hire girl during the day and show the place around like a GF? How do I find the these type of girls?
Based on what I read, GFE / BBJ and DFK are not offered typically in the clubs / SW. Is that correct? How do I negotiate in advance? How much typically they charge for this?
I do enjoy GFE without FS like DFK / dances etc. What clubs are good for these? I am into FS but like 2 to 3 times a day. Rest of the time I need some Good action without FS.
Thanks in advance.
Bango Cheito
02-24-20, 04:20
I used photoprepagos.com. Filter the ones that have the thumbs up recommendations reviews. Most seem to be around $100 k - $150 k and seem concentrated on the north side of Bogota, Usanquen and chapi ero. Some are incall and some do outcall. If you go for an incall I used Didi app to get there. It's basically like Colombian uber since Uber got kicked out of Colombia. It's been pretty reliable and cheap. If you do happen to do an incall in Usanquen, it seems like a pretty safe residential area.Just as a heads up, generally escorts work from 10 am-6 pm in Bogotá. You might get ones as late as 8-9 pm, even that's a stretch. Part of the reason is that many of these girls have families that don't know what they do for a living, another part is that they don't want to wait on drunk people.
Also, you can use Beat and Picap apps, they are better than DiDi, which is a Chinese knock-off of Uber.
Bango Cheito
02-24-20, 04:27
I gave the general idea. I did not give all the minute details. I had been talking to this chick online for over a year. I was coming to Colombia and I didn't want to be running all over the country this time. So I was going to get her down to Bogota for a day and a half because I would have other things going on after that. So I needed the times to match up for the flights. Viva does not have as many flights as Avianca.
She had flown before but forgot about the security part. As a matter of fact one of the pictures in her profile was her inside the plane and that is how I initially started talking to her. I asked where she went.
After she told me that she missed the flight I looked online to see if anyone else had a flight leaving out. There was one. I forgot what compnay. But I told her to tell them I could give her my credit card number for the ticket. They said they would have to have the actual card. Must have been about 8:30 or 9 pm. How the hell could I get her some money to the airport in Barranquilla at that time? All options were exhausted on my end.
I didn't just say too bad so sad when she said she missed the flight. I am a foreigner in the country and I am in a city hundreds of miles away. She is in the place she grew up in.IKR! White knights detected in this forum LOL!
Guys, she's a goddamn adult person. Colombians aren't children and they aren't stupid either. Why such low expectations? She had a plane ticked bought for her, would have had expenses paid for her the whole time, and she couldn't even get it together to get to the airport on time? Forget her! Man, I wouldn't even coddle my kids the way some of why'all would do a stranger. Sick.
I made it back to Bogota again and hooked up with another girl from eroticasbogota dot com. Easy text contact through Whatsapp and she came to my room in 1 hour. Full GFE both times. I was even able to get pics and video of both session. Both girls gave me their numbers for future encounters though there's so many others I want to try. Now, I'll be heading back next week and I want to explore a little this time. Being by myself I'm not ready to go to SF just yet but I'd like to hear some recommendations on "casas" or "clubs" in the Chapinero area. I stay at the JW if that helps. I have no problem getting more girls from the site I mentioned above as they are crazy cheap compared to the US, but it sounds like I can get some better deals elsewhere. Thanks in advance.
TH.
Any suggested places for currency exchange. I will be using money changers not bank / ATM as I will have some physical $$.
Also do we need to convert only daily needs the amount in cop is large.
Any pointers will be appreciated.
Thanks.Closest to SF is in Teqendama hotel https://atcambios.com/.
Also a few on Avineda Gimenez just east of carrera 7.
As mentioned ad nauseum in this thread, ATMs are Better if you can get low-Free fees. Banco Pinchicha you can get 1 million per withdrawal-- there are 2 about 1 + miles from SF.
I read lot of past posts in preparation for my upcoming trip. I never go to any mongering trip more than 4 days. This is my 1st trip with 10+ days.
I am mostly into girls from 18 to 22 years age. Are there any options to hire girl during the day and show the place around like a GF? How do I find the these type of girls?
Based on what I read, GFE / BBJ and DFK are not offered typically in the clubs / SW. Is that correct? How do I negotiate in advance? How much typically they charge for this?
I do enjoy GFE without FS like DFK / dances etc. What clubs are good for these? I am into FS but like 2 to 3 times a day. Rest of the time I need some Good action without FS.
Thanks in advance.Many Hot Streetie Sweeties available day and night in SF. Many are open to outside dates, how is your hooker game?
As I have said previously, it is best too get a quickee and see what the GFE possibilities are. See if you want to spend more $$ and time.
Don't worry about negotiating in advance, negotiate in present.
Also clubs like Atonis, La Casona, Venus, California and Texas tend to have newer younger. Better prices for sessions upstairs are possible. Lapdances as low as 10 mil. Usually at night they will have 3 girl special lapdances for $15-$20 mil.
Of course Troya, Paisa and Fiebre will have some young hotties too. PM me for a my special SF tour.
KilledSoul
02-24-20, 11:38
Based on what I read, GFE / BBJ and DFK are not offered typically in the clubs / SW. Is that correct?Thats correct.
How do I negotiate in advance?In spanish.
How much typically they charge for this?Streetie sweetie asked me for 20 k for BBBJ.
I do enjoy GFE without FS like DFK / dances etc. What clubs are good for these?All of them. If you want a name then try Troya which is woodman's fav.
All of them. If you want a name then try Troya which is woodman's fav.Troya used to be my favorite and is still great. My new favorite is Atonis, La Casona and Venus, They have newer hotter younger cuties. Real slutty too.
10 mil lapdances and there are some great fun girls there. I have played doctor with a few.
Actually, last week me and a friend got a lapdance and this girl was letting me fingerbang her which was good for a while, I got tired of doing it LOL. Some even let me pull their hair while lapdancing. Not that I really wanted too. I just wanted to see if she would let me, LOL.
Some will smile and move your hand if you get to touchy there. I like to grab the sides just outside the lips and spread them. Have not had an odor problem yet, LOL. Some super hot girls there to have fun with.
Also there are real lesbo shows and trio strip teasers all 3 will come off the stage and give you and your friends a lapdance for 15-20 mil. I have sessioned in those places for 50 mil sometimes more.
I went to SF this morning at 8. There is a bakery I like to get breakfast at, great caldo costilla. I saw 6 or 10 hot streetie sweeties this was just walking through part. After breakfast 8;30 walking out I saw more pretty hot girls out, like 15. There are some nice girls that do the early shift.
Mr Enternational
02-24-20, 16:29
I am mostly into girls from 18 to 22 years age. Are there any options to hire girl during the day and show the place around like a GF? How do I find the these type of girls?First of all, there isn't much to see. Second of all, 99% of chicks have not been to what there is to see and would not even know where to take you. It would be better for you to look on tripadvisor and go to Cathedral of Salt and Montserrat on your own. The only place some chick is going to know to take you would be Zona Rosa.
I read lot of past posts in preparation for my upcoming trip. I never go to any mongering trip more than 4 days. This is my 1st trip with 10+ days.
I am mostly into girls from 18 to 22 years age. Are there any options to hire girl during the day and show the place around like a GF? How do I find the these type of girls?
Based on what I read, GFE / BBJ and DFK are not offered typically in the clubs / SW. Is that correct? How do I negotiate in advance? How much typically they charge for this?
I do enjoy GFE without FS like DFK / dances etc. What clubs are good for these? I am into FS but like 2 to 3 times a day. Rest of the time I need some Good action without FS.
Thanks in advance.My observation was that the girls to be concentrated along 23rd. They were mostly Venezuelans in this area. I had two Venezuelans and 2 Colombians. Prices that I was quoted were: 35 k - 40 k for short term and 60 k-70 k for hh, one offered anal for an additional 80 k. With 3 of them that I selected I couldn't get them to do BBBJ or much else.
Saturday night, there was a Colombian to the left of California on 23rd that I hadn't seen the previous days. Her name was Tatiana. She was short, white, shoulder length blonde hair, big lips, big amazing natural tits, and dressed like a librarian. Honestly, at first I thought she was like a cashier or something by the way she was dressed. Initially, she quoted me 35 k for short term but once inside I ended up spending about $150 k. I didn't really care about the money because It was for a longer session, she had a unique look, and I got the works from her. Really amazing GFE session: LFK, sucked on big amazing tits, FIV, DATY, 69, sucked my balls, even bent her over doggy style and ate her out with her ass in my face. At the end of the session she gave me her number and said that If I wanted to, I could call her on Sunday and hang out, get something to eat, and then obviously have a session and she wouldn't charge for the all that time, just the cost of an hour session or so. With this in mind, I have to believe that there are other chicks that would be willing to show you around as well.
Rabo Verde
02-24-20, 19:33
I know RTFF, but I already read the forum, and I wanted to ask ONLY the senior guys with recent experience a question.
Assume you are an older world traveler with lots of game, street smarts, and fluent Spanish, but first time in Bogota.
Assume you like the thin young types.
Assume you want to spend the first few days interviewing and then the last few days GFE with the best of the bunch.
Assume a budget of $100-200 a day for everything. As for hotel, you don't need luxury, but no bedbugs, no guest fees and walking distance to venues if possible.
What would be the perfect week?
Rough breakdown of costs?
Hotels, bars, ads, street areas?
Thanks!
PirateMorgan
02-24-20, 20:49
Go before dark. And don't read anything about it before you go. It will enhance your sense of adventure. Just do it! Have your own personal experience. Feel like your first visit to Tijuana when you were 18. Take condoms. Don't take more than 200,000 pesos and expect to pay a girl as low as 35,000? And check ID's if in doubt and you will BE in doubt a LOT. Then come back and tell us what a motha fuckin' hero you felt like. Then get your next ticket to Colombia!
Santa Fe fell'as. The last of world's shrinking venues that rocks!
My observation was that the girls to be concentrated along 23rd. They were mostly Venezuelans in this area. I had two Venezuelans and 2 Colombians. Prices that I was quoted were: 35 k - 40 k for short term and 60 k-70 k for hh, one offered anal for an additional 80 k. With 3 of them that I selected I couldn't get them to do BBBJ or much else.
Saturday night, there was a Colombian to the left of California on 23rd that I hadn't seen the previous days. Her name was Tatiana. She was short, white, shoulder length blonde hair, big lips, big amazing natural tits, and dressed like a librarian. Honestly, at first I thought she was like a cashier or something by the way she was dressed. Initially, she quoted me 35 k for short term but once inside I ended up spending about $150 k. I didn't really care about the money because It was for a longer session, she had a unique look, and I got the works from her. Really amazing GFE session: LFK, sucked on big amazing tits, FIV, DATY, 69, sucked my balls, even bent her over doggy style and ate her out with her ass in my face. At the end of the session she gave me her number and said that If I wanted to, I could call her on Sunday and hang out, get something to eat, and then obviously have a session and she wouldn't charge for the all that time, just the cost of an hour session or so. With this in mind, I have to believe that there are other chicks that would be willing to show you around as well.**The 18-22 girls seemed concentrate outside along 23rd and southernmost part of 15th and 16th and were mostly Venezuelan. The older ones were mostly on north side and 24th and are mostly Colombian.
SamPeter71
02-25-20, 02:55
Thank you all for the responses.
My observation was that the girls to be concentrated along 23rd. They were mostly Venezuelans in this area. I had two Venezuelans and 2 Colombians. Prices that I was quoted were: 35 k - 40 k for short term and 60 k-70 k for hh, one offered anal for an additional 80 k. With 3 of them that I selected I couldn't get them to do BBBJ or much else.
Saturday night, there was a Colombian to the left of California on 23rd that I hadn't seen the previous days. Her name was Tatiana. She was short, white, shoulder length blonde hair, big lips, big amazing natural tits, and dressed like a librarian. Honestly, at first I thought she was like a cashier or something by the way she was dressed. Initially, she quoted me 35 k for short term but once inside I ended up spending about $150 k. I didn't really care about the money because It was for a longer session, she had a unique look, and I got the works from her. Really amazing GFE session: LFK, sucked on big amazing tits, FIV, DATY, 69, sucked my balls, even bent her over doggy style and ate her out with her ass in my face. At the end of the session she gave me her number and said that If I wanted to, I could call her on Sunday and hang out, get something to eat, and then obviously have a session and she wouldn't charge for the all that time, just the cost of an hour session or so. With this in mind, I have to believe that there are other chicks that would be willing to show you around as well.
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02-25-20, 05:39
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**The 18-22 girls seemed concentrate outside along 23rd and southernmost part of 15th and 16th and were mostly Venezuelan. The older ones were mostly on north side and 24th and are mostly Colombian.Actually, there is a whole other 2 block stroll of Venezuelan and Colombian girls 2 blocks south. Many hot 18-20 somethings. Calle 20 and Carrera 15 I wrote a post last year with photos.
SamPeter71
02-25-20, 19:13
Thank you for the post.
Is the ID girls carry easy to verify if I don't know Spanish. Any do and don't for this as this seems to be one of biggest risk here.
Go before dark. And don't read anything about it before you go. It will enhance your sense of adventure. Just do it! Have your own personal experience. Feel like your first visit to Tijuana when you were 18. Take condoms. Don't take more than 200,000 pesos and expect to pay a girl as low as 35,000? And check ID's if in doubt and you will BE in doubt a LOT. Then come back and tell us what a motha fuckin' hero you felt like. Then get your next ticket to Colombia!
Santa Fe fell'as. The last of world's shrinking venues that rocks!
KangarooTed
02-26-20, 08:12
I went to SF this morning at 8. There is a bakery I like to get breakfast at, great caldo costilla. I saw 6 or 10 hot streetie sweeties this was just walking through part. After breakfast 8;30 walking out I saw more pretty hot girls out, like 15. There are some nice girls that do the early shift.I love the early shift also, for the same reasons. The bakery I frequent is Panderia Pasteleria La Pureza on the corner of CL. 22 and Cra 17.
On first glance the corner can look kinda sketchy, but it's a relaxed vibe, a block off the action.
**The 18-22 girls seemed concentrate outside along 23rd and southernmost part of 15th and 16th and were mostly Venezuelan. The older ones were mostly on north side and 24th and are mostly Colombian.Actually, at busy times there are 18-20 something hotties all the way around that block, and also from 22nd to 23 d on Cr 15, You can miss out if you don't check.
Thank you for the post.
Is the ID girls carry easy to verify if I don't know Spanish. Any do and don't for this as this seems to be one of biggest risk here.The Colombian cedula is a white plastic card, similar to a driver's license. It's not a pure white, sort of a dingy white. On the front is the cedula number in this format:
1.555.444.333.
Beneath that is the person's names on 2 lines, "apellidos" and "nombres". That would be their last names, most have 2, and their first and middle names. Such as:
Smith Jones.
Suzy Dianne.
At the bottom is their signature and to the right is a photo.
On the back, top left is a thumbprint. Top line is place and date of birth. Date format is standard military format, day, month, year:
22 Abr 1999 for April 22,1999.
Next line is height, blood type and sex. Height is in meters 1.54,1. 62,1.93. Below that is the date and office when and where the cedula was issued. At the bottom is a barcode.
The Venezuelan cedula has all the information on the front and has a red stripe. Can't remember much more about it.
How to spot a fake? Look at the picture. A lot of girls borrow someone's cedula, or use a stolen one. Check the height. If it says 1.70 and you're talking to a short girl, it's probably not her cedula. None of that will help you if she bought a good fake cedula. When in doubt, walk away.
The Venezuelan cedula has all the information on the front and has a red stripe. Can't remember much more about it.
How to spot a fake? Look at the picture. A lot of girls borrow someone's cedula, or use a stolen one. Check the height. If it says 1.70 and you're talking to a short girl, it's probably not her cedula. None of that will help you if she bought a good fake cedula. When in doubt, walk away.Here is a copy of a Venezuelan ID. There is a 5 or 6 digit number (believe it's in red or green ink) on the back. The ID should be somewhat firm. Fakes that are sold in Santa Fe are somewhat flimsy and may not have the number on the back. A regular told me that they sell them for 40 K.
I love the early shift also, for the same reasons. The bakery I frequent is Panderia Pasteleria La Pureza on the corner of CL. 22 and Cra 17.
On first glance the corner can look kinda sketchy, but it's a relaxed vibe, a block off the action.That is a nice bakery. A little off the beaten track. That corner is a nice place to watch people it is like a village.
I usually go to the new one on CL 23 between 16 and 16 a. All the bakeries have crappy coffee there, but they have good breakfast and fresh exotic fruit juice.
Also super hot hookers come in and out. I have shared a meal with one of my girlfriends there. There are some decent places to eat in SF.
LatinaLover#1
02-28-20, 03:55
I love the early shift also, for the same reasons. The bakery I frequent is Panderia Pasteleria La Pureza on the corner of CL. 22 and Cra 17.
On first glance the corner can look kinda sketchy, but it's a relaxed vibe, a block off the action.The early shift, morning and early afternoon are a good time thru out Latin and South America. Seems many chippers tell their families they work a reg job and consequently need to be home by late afternoon to keep them in the dark about her real 'job' .
JackTaggart
02-28-20, 05:03
Review is below, but quick question. I need to go back to Bogota for week starting March 29th. I have the opportunity to stay until April 15th, but that is right around Easter. Am I wasting my time staying that long? I can stay as little as a week, but would like to stay longer if I can have some fun. I plan on going back to Santa Fe and check out other spots like mezzanine.
I was recently in Bogota Feb 9th through the 16th. I had been 1 time before and ended up at one of the expensive clubs, and this time I wanted to try out Santa Fe. I contacted Woodman, and after a failed attempt on my part earlier in the week, I hired him for a tour Saturday early evening / night. Long story short, it was like a kid in a candy store. I felt safe the whole time, but it was kind of nice seeing it in the light to start. We met right outside of Sante Fe and he gave me a nice tour. He said it was a little early at 6:30 pm, but I had a flight to catch. After going through the various streets, we went into a couple of clubs. It was still a little early and the street girls were much better than the clubs. We went back to one of the first girls that I came across which was a petite spinner type to talk. She originally wanted 60 k, but Woodman talked to her and agreed to 40 k for 20 minutes. We went upstairs and had an amazing time. I don't speak any Spanish, so couldn't even ask for extras, so everything was covered. Still, she was extremely girl next door and so hot that it didn't matter. We then walked around a bit more and ended up in another club. We ended up getting a lap dance for 6+ songs for 20 k. She had us finger banging her and she going wild, so that was a lot of fun. After that we walked around some more and I found another amazing spinner. Same 40,000 and tried to get BBBJ, but no luck. It was a ton of fun though, and the perfect way to spend my last night in Bogota I need to learn Spanish!
I can't recommend Woodman enough.
KangarooTed
02-28-20, 09:39
Am I wasting my time staying that long? I go during Semana, and for longer. No question there are a couple of quiet days, so bear that in mind.
But it suits me and there is always fun to be had.
The early shift, morning and early afternoon are a good time thru out Latin and South America. Seems many chippers tell their families they work a reg job and consequently need to be home by late afternoon to keep them in the dark about her real 'job' .Yes, also in the daytime casas in Chapinero and clubs away from Santa Fe are hot housewives working on the down-low.
Headed to Bogota in three weeks. Is Tequendama close to all the action? How are they with letting the girls in?
Headed to Bogota in three weeks. Is Tequendama close to all the action? How are they with letting the girls in?Teqendama Suites is better for bringing girls back. Many ISGers agree.
https://www.tequendamasuites.com/
I just left Peru and had a great time without a guide and about to visit Bogota this Sunday through Tuesday. I am trying to get in touch with Woodman for a tour.
The Tall Man
02-29-20, 22:42
Review is below, but quick question. I need to go back to Bogota for week starting March 29th. I have the opportunity to stay until April 15th, but that is right around Easter. Am I wasting my time staying that long? I can stay as little as a week, but would like to stay longer if I can have some fun. I plan on going back to Santa Fe and check out other spots like mezzanine.
I was recently in Bogota Feb 9th through the 16th. I had been 1 time before and ended up at one of the expensive clubs, and this time I wanted to try out Santa Fe. I contacted Woodman, and after a failed attempt on my part earlier in the week, I hired him for a tour Saturday early evening / night. Long story short, it was like a kid in a candy store. I felt safe the whole time, but it was kind of nice seeing it in the light to start. We met right outside of Sante Fe and he gave me a nice tour. He said it was a little early at 6:30 pm, but I had a flight to catch. After going through the various streets, we went into a couple of clubs. It was still a little early and the street girls were much better than the clubs. We went back to one of the first girls that I came across which was a petite spinner type to talk. She originally wanted 60 k, but Woodman talked to her and agreed to 40 k for 20 minutes. We went upstairs and had an amazing time. I don't speak any Spanish, so couldn't even ask for extras, so everything was covered. Still, she was extremely girl next door and so hot that it didn't matter. We then walked around a bit more and ended up in another club. We ended up getting a lap dance for 6+ songs for 20 k. She had us finger banging her and she going wild, so that was a lot of fun. After that we walked around some more and I found another amazing spinner. Same 40,000 and tried to get BBBJ, but no luck. It was a ton of fun though, and the perfect way to spend my last night in Bogota I need to learn Spanish!
I can't recommend Woodman enough.Good feedback to this forum and sure to be useful to others. I know Woodman, met him about a year ago while he was giving another monger a tour in SF, we walked and talked and checked out the street chica and bars / clubs, all is good, he is a straight up legit guy who know more about SF than probably any other person in the whole of Bogota.
Sounds like you had a good time.
The Tall Man.
BlueChange
03-01-20, 00:28
Hey what's a good time to get to Paisa Club at on Saturday?
NeilGeorge
03-01-20, 02:24
Hey what's a good time to get to Paisa Club at on Saturday?Yes! Sometime after dark, I think they open about 5 pm but the girls do not come in on time.
Yes! Sometime after dark, I think they open about 5 pm but the girls do not come in on time.There are usually a nice assortment about 8 and than there will be another wave of girls by 9.
I made it back to Bogota again and hooked up with another girl from eroticasbogota dot com. Easy text contact through Whatsapp and she came to my room in 1 hour. Full GFE both times. I was even able to get pics and video of both session. Both girls gave me their numbers for future encounters though there's so many others I want to try.
TH.Can you please provide more actionable details, name, link, damage? This type of mongering is right up my alley, and I'll be staying in the same area in a week or 2. Thanks!
MongerHunger
03-02-20, 06:26
There's some really good looking young street talent in the vicinity of the Monaco building near Calle 20 and Carrera 15 b. No problem getting them for 30 k and room for 7 k. Speak confidently and firmly with a smile. Motorcycles everywhere cruising around. More motorcycles than cars. No need to hightail it out of Santa Fe after dark. No problems. Stick around and enjoy yourself.
There's some really good looking young street talent in the vicinity of the Monaco building near Calle 20 and Carrera 15 b. No problem getting them for 30 k and room for 7 k. Speak confidently and firmly with a smile. Motorcycles everywhere cruising around. More motorcycles than cars. No need to hightail it out of Santa Fe after dark. No problems. Stick around and enjoy yourself.Yes, that is the south stroll. There are bars to watch the action on the street. 2.5 mil beers. It is safe as long as you take care. Very ghetto.
SamPeter71
03-03-20, 03:21
Thank you all for the responses and pictures too.
With all news on corona virus, anything visible impact / observations in Bogota or Santa Fe?
Here is a copy of a Venezuelan ID. There is a 5 or 6 digit number (believe it's in red or green ink) on the back. The ID should be somewhat firm. Fakes that are sold in Santa Fe are somewhat flimsy and may not have the number on the back. A regular told me that they sell them for 40 K.
MongerHunger
03-03-20, 10:43
Yes, that is the south stroll. There are bars to watch the action on the street. 2.5 mil beers. It is safe as long as you take care. Very ghetto.Made a few recent runs down there and the lineups were nice on that block. The area was jumping. It was a hotspot. 30 k to Play!
Made a few recent runs down there and the lineups were nice on that block. The area was jumping. It was a hotspot. 30 k to Play!Yep, when busy 200 girls.
Thank you all for the responses and pictures too.
With all news on corona virus, anything visible impact / observations in Bogota or Santa Fe?Not yet, But it is in Ecuador from Spain a few days ago.
JohnDarkSmith
03-05-20, 03:57
I think you are describing club LIDO. It is in calle 95 carrera 14. Very expensive place by the way.I confirm, it is Lido.
There are many escort agencies in Bogota. Just search Google for "Prepagos" and you'll find a bunch of them.
Escort agencies are the second most expensive options in Bogota after the north side strip clubs. At the low end of the scale, you can pay around $10-$12 US. On the high end prices start around $100. A great number of options are available in the $50 range.So the midrange you are referring to is the casas correct? One of my friends that visits Bogota swears that the casas are the best value and quality. I also noticed people talking about Venus, Atonis, etc. Are those strip clubs where you can FS in a connecting room?
So the midrange you are referring to is the casas correct? One of my friends that visits Bogota swears that the casas are the best value and quality. I also noticed people talking about Venus, Atonis, etc. Are those strip clubs where you can FS in a connecting room?The Santa Fe clubs for FS quickees is $15-$40 Plus, Atonis, Venus, La Casona, California, Texas are where they on the less expensive side. I find those clubs have newer funner girls.
I went last night and visited Atonis and Venus, Very nice. Streets were decent, overall it was a pretty good- not the best action. The guys I was with were blown away.
Unbelievably, I got caught smoking a roach by 2 cops on a moto and they let me go, without a bribe! They pulled up right beside me coming around a corner and one said ¨Don't eat it, throw it on the ground¨ I knew if I ate it that would just piss them off and I was resigned to paying off. So I did as told and he told me to give it to him and pulled out 20 mil (1st offer) and said ¨solo tengo eso¨he shook his head and I thought they were going to shake me down but they just drove off. I was gobsmacked and had to sit down. I have been shaken down a few times in the past so this came as a pleasant surprise.
The Santa Fe clubs for FS quickees is $15-$40 Plus, Atonis, Venus, La Casona, California, Texas are where they on the less expensive side. I find those clubs have newer funner girls.
I went last night and visited Atonis and Venus, Very nice. Streets were decent, overall it was a pretty good- not the best action. The guys I was with were blown away.
Unbelievably, I got caught smoking a roach by 2 cops on a moto and they let me go, without a bribe! They pulled up right beside me coming around a corner and one said Don't eat it, throw it on the ground I knew if I ate it that would just piss them off and I was resigned to paying off. So I did as told and he told me to give it to him and pulled out 20 mil (1st offer) and said solo tengo esohe shook his head and I thought they were going to shake me down but they just drove off. I was gobsmacked and had to sit down. I have been shaken down a few times in the past so this came as a pleasant surprise.Great information. So it's probably a good thing to visit the casas and the clubs, just to change it up a bit. I will be down there from March 27 to April 1 so I think I have enough time to dabble. I also want to visit some coffee farms in the region since I'm in the business.
Man that's nuts that the cops didn't take anything. Very rare occurrence, but enjoy it haha.
ChuchoLoco
03-06-20, 17:26
Not yet, But it is in Ecuador from Spain a few days ago.There were 4 cases as of last week, probably a few more now and what is scary to me is that the US is considered by Colombia as a high risk country so passengers coming from US are under a higher scrutiny. Not sure exactly what that means but probably if you cough or have sniffles you will most likely be checked out for fever etc. Ecuador is also a high risk country on the list.
JohnDarkSmith
03-07-20, 03:50
Been spending a few days there, came back a few hours ago.
I had a great time. Just one fail with a day time worker in Santa Fe, otherwise, only super great to very neutral adventures there.
Spent time in la avenida 1 er de mayo, yes, be extra careful there. Some clubs, most of them actually are cool, but some are really ready for the extortion, and it just goes trap after trap. I have spent some hot time with a few girls there (no bed time) and this is part of what I like. Had some absolutely great time in the casas in Chapinero. Girls were really cool with me, most of them at least, some were more on the neutral side.
I have spent quite some time in Santa Fe, and met some of the hottest one (in term of service) but those were kind of rare overall. Visited Lido to see, went to pussy house and the one right across the street, did nothing there but having a drink.
LatinaLover#1
03-08-20, 02:13
I go during Semana, and for longer. No question there are a couple of quiet days, so bear that in mind.
But it suits me and there is always fun to be had.Lots of places will be closed from Thursday to Sunday. I remember one Holy Thursday, I rented a car in San Jose, Costa Rica to drive to my novias in P Zeledon. It's a toll road as you go thru Cartago and there was no toll collectors at all. Everyone was off jajaj. I made the mistake of going during Semana Santa once and that was a big mistake. I remember walking around and around in the Del Rey and I couldn't find one girl I liked. I still travel on Semana Santa as I will next month to Bogota but only to see my girl. Now I only go to see my girl or if I have a date to go to the playa.
As the member said above, there will always be some talent around but be prepared for some slim pickens.
Elvis 2008
03-08-20, 09:33
There were 4 cases as of last week, probably a few more now and what is scary to me is that the US is considered by Colombia as a high risk country so passengers coming from US are under a higher scrutiny. Not sure exactly what that means.It means they take your temperature. I flew through customs as usual.
........... Just one fail with a day time worker in Santa Fe..........What was the nature of the fail? Was it you or was it her?
AdamCastro1986
03-08-20, 20:30
Hello fellow Mongers!
I just got back from Medellin for a work trip and had great success there! I didn't pay more for than 150 k pesos (but I mostly met with massage girls get their numbers and let them call me on slow days). It looks like there is just as much to do in Bogota so I had a few questions for those of you who feel you are well versed in our hobby there.
My first question is what are your top pick brothels? I don't like going to places when they are absolutely packed. I usually go around 10 or 2 pm. I have had success with this method because there are far less guys there if any and I get my pick of girl. I also feel when it is slower I get a better price negotiation.
My second question is what is your price cap for the strip clubs? What is the most you would be willing to part with when you go to one of the Strip clubs. In Medellin my limit was 200 k Peso, but I've come to find out that I was getting pretty good deals there. I can afford up to 400 k for a girl a day, but if I go that high I would want them for multiple hours.
My last question is what are the best times a day to find talent in Santa Fe, and what is your price cap for one of these girls? I want to go clubbing in the nice areas of Bogota and I was thinking of hiring one of the street girls to join me. I feel a decent price cap for one of them is around 60-80 k per hour and I would expect sex at the end of the night.
I have never been to Bogota and my trip to Medellin was my first. I was there for two months and got back to the states a week ago. I know the whole routine about hiring a taxi driver and having them show me the places, but I would like to get your input on what you feel has the best value and girls so that I can try them out as well! I appreciate any help you may give me!
BlueChange
03-08-20, 23:04
Been here about 2 week now and with the corona virus it's been delayed so I got extra time to kill here.
Sophia 40 K plus 20 K tip oral natural.
I went and saw my favorite blowjob queen that is in this casa in Chapinero. I don't know the name just that it has a blue door and I walk past a bunch of industrial construction shops and a gas station that has been torn down. Let me tell you this girl gives outstanding head. She is enthusiastic, soft and suave with it. I really feel like I'm getting a BJ from a girl who's mouth is made of Silk and pillows. She is skinny and does have a small see section scar that you don't really notice unless you are looking. I don't think I've ever actually had intercourse with her because her head game is soo strong. I show up, she knows what I want and gives it to me. Recently she started offering a facial for an additional 20 K so I tried it. It was ok, she is not as into it but she trusts me and is happy to make me happy. Overall I think I've seen her 3 times since I just don't want to deal with the BS.
Random Vnz Mariel 120 K plus 50 K for beers at Venus.
I was at Santa Fe this past night. I went to the Paisa club. It was a fun time, it's probably the best-looking place in terms of Decore. The guys serving the tables are very attentive and help me if I am looking for something. I bounced after not really finding the good connection I was searching for. I wound up walking to a couple of clubs and finally settled on Venus. I met a paisa waiter who knew what I was looking for. Really pretty face. I got one but she has braces attached to her. It was sort of late around 2:20. We were clicking but when I tried to kiss her she told me just not here. I was cool and she said since the club is closing it's better for us to leave. I told her I have a great apartment in Chapinero and we should go. Took the taxi and she was enjoying the view as she sipped the remainder of her Corna with a straw. She was hungry and I had some snacks. Finally, we got our clothes off and were hanging out in the bed. The problem was when she was kissing, she was jsut doing the pecks. No DFK like promised. I asked her what was up and she said she was shy. But then she just would be sort of weird or stupid and start singing spanish songs she knew from the club. , Her pusst was very nice looking and when I rubbed it she went into automatic fast gyrations. Despite the braces and no DFK she actually gave a pretty decent BJ. When she put her hair up I could really see the beauty of her 21 yo face and her big full lips with slutty working girl make up she wore on her eyes. I put on the rubber and inside her little tight pussy I went. I couldn't go too deep cause spreading her legs was not enjoyable for her. She wanted in quarto but when we did and she grabbed my knish, her fingernail jammed into me! Ouch! I lost my hard-on as it was really painful and pulled off the rubber. She was sorry. We just laid down and eventually, I just got her to give me a HJ and BJ. I thought she was staying later but she was complaining about not seeing her kid and she was picking her nose! Gross. As I was getting dressed she made a comment to my belly because I drank soo much cervasa I was bloated. I didn't like that. I walked her downstairs handed her the money and put her in a taxi. I didn't even want to kiss her goodbye but she insisted.
130 k Sammy.
Saw this girls ad on Photopreago and has since been deleted. +57 304 5375772 is the number if anyone wants but its a waste. I decided to go see some talent in Usaquen, I usually I do well there. There was traffic getting there. The building was super nice. I get confirmed by the security and walk into the apartment. The ad says 22 but this chick was 32. Her tits looked good until she removed her bra. Holy Frankentits! The left was had a walleye and looked like igor. THe nipple was clearly on it's own agenda. I haven't seen such a botched job in person. SHe offered a trio with her friend but I declined. The only saving grace was the bed was huge and really comfortable. Other than that, not really feeling it. Went into doggy and though about other chicks and busted in the rubber. I know it was 1 hour but I stayed maybe 20 minutes.
200 K Tatiana.
I've seen her before many times. She is super cute but seriously at the end of her rope for working. She came over my place but she recently suffered some sort of a mediclal problem with her arm and had to have a giant ball that was growing removed!! I wish she would have told me. IT was a bit awkward being with her as her arm was incapacitated I felt bad and I could tell she really needed the moeny and she stared off into the tv trying to jerk me to completion. It wasn't that great but atleast she hung around my place and was a good company otherwise. She used to be on photoprepagos but I think shje is like semi retirement now. She has some crazy mood swings the other week when we text so I'm sure mental break down is coming soon. The biz takes it's toll.
I'll be here another month as the coronavirus cancels things and I have more free time to work remotely.
Elvis 2008
03-09-20, 17:11
I have seen in some time was working a hotel across the street from the club La Piscina in Santa Fe. Back then, I was waiting on an Uber, and I saw her from a distance.
With this trip, I was walking in Santa Fe and there she was, that same black girl, so I rushed into see her.
Alejandra is very nice, very sweet, and she is originally from Cali. I like them young, tight, and muscular, and Alejandra did not have a speck of visible fat on her. She is a freak in the weight room apparently. What I didn't expect was great conversation from a street girl. I honestly could see myself taking this one on a date.
Anyway, I was all tensed up from the flight and I paid her an hour for a massage and the extracurriculars that go with it. OMG, those strong hands were amazing. She wanted 70 k for 30 minutes but the massage was so good, I opted for 30 more minutes and paid her 140 k for everything. Again, she was as strong in the bed as she was with the massage. She did DFK and BBBJ for me as well. I even got a stripper slide out of her.
It is not often you get a street session that is a 10 in every way, but Alejandra was. She was the sweetest dark meat I think I have ever tasted and gets my highest recommendation.
BlueChange
03-09-20, 19:42
I have seen in some time was working a hotel across the street from the club La Piscina in Santa Fe. Back then, I was waiting on an Uber, and I saw her from a distance.
With this trip, I was walking in Santa Fe and there she was, that same black girl, so I rushed into see her.
Alejandra is very nice, very sweet, and she is originally from Cali. I like them young, tight, and muscular, and Alejandra did not have a speck of visible fat on her. She is a freak in the weight room apparently. What I didn't expect was great conversation from a street girl. I honestly could see myself taking this one on a date.
Anyway, I was all tensed up from the flight and I paid her an hour for a massage and the extracurriculars that go with it. OMG, those strong hands were amazing. She wanted 70 k for 30 minutes but the massage was so good, I opted for 30 more minutes and paid her 140 k for everything. Again, she was as strong in the bed as she was with the massage. She did DFK and BBBJ for me as well. I even got a stripper slide out of her.
It is not often you get a street session that is a 10 in every way, but Alejandra was. She was the sweetest dark meat I think I have ever tasted and gets my highest recommendation.Yeah, lately the streets have been having some dimes. Better lookjng then the casa. Atleast Santa Fe has been good.
MongerHunger
03-09-20, 22:42
Yeah, lately the streets have been having some dimes. Better lookjng then the casa. Atleast Santa Fe has been good.That is correct Sir. Especially around the South Stroll in the vicinity of Calle 20 and Carrera 15 b Monaco building. No problem with 30 k to play offers. Nice Young Talent. It has been reported up to 200 chicas in the area when busy. Fantastic selection. Natural bodies included. One of my "go to" spots in Santa Fe.
30 k.
My flight from Tijuana to Mexico city was delayed 8 hours due to foggy conditions. Rather than getting in to Bogota at 2 pm, I got in just past midnight. Booked it off the plane to customs, hit the Colpatria Scotiabank ATM, and was off to ibis museo. Had my taxi driRed eye flight from Tijuana to Cdmx was delayed by ver wait for me at the hotel, checked in, dropped my luggage off, and he got me to Santa Fe at little after 130 am.
I planned on making a few rounds to see who'd be the best candidate to take back to the hotel, but stopped at paisas first. Mariangel from my first visit (sweet girl, connected as she has a great personality and I could see she is intelligent; she was allegedly a law student, answered any question I had about politics without hesitation) happened to be sitting next to me and we reconnected. Then her friend estefhany came over and I was fixated on her big naturals. Bought them some drinks, and asked when they finish (230 am) then said maybe we could all go together which they were receptive of. I asked if theyd be OK with me using the same condom and they said it was fine. I knew they wouldn't be that interactive with eachother as they are not lesbians but close friends, I really just wanted to bend them both over and alternate as necessary, which I did haha. My plan was to go get a ST in at another club, and meet them back at close, but as I already had what I wanted I opted nto to press my luck and risk trying to find something better, which usually doesn't work in my favor LOL. Ended up just sitting there and buying them 2 rounds of drinks to kill time. Another one of their friends came over and was shaking it real nice for random guys buy not receiving a cent, so I threw her 4000 cop which then brought her over to pull up the skirt and gring her girl on me haha. Just relaxed with a table of 3 cool venezuelan girls until the lights came on at 230 and we were off.
I've never had to check girls into ibis the 3 times I've stayed there, but this time I happened to get some by the book front desk girl that said I couldn't take more than 1 girl up to my room (always brought 1 so that's my bad I guess) obviously I just wanted to get it in so I just checked out and took the girls to tequendama Suites, where we had a 2. 5 HR session of stopping, starting, banging one out when one went to the bathroom, and a lot of one riding me while the other kissed me. Finished with them both on their backs blowing it on both of their chests. At this point I had been up for over 24 hours and just wanted some sleep. As they were just chatting nonstop playing on their phones, kindly asked them to leave, doing something I didn't think I'd ever do; kick 2 naked girls out of my bed. I see the sun was coming up, see it is around 6 am and crash until 1 pm, the alarm clock in the room was an hour late! I was going to stop by abudabi before the airport but that'll have to wait to I guess.
I am completely comfortable in Santa Fe, and didn't get any shit from anybody when I was walking hand in hand from both of the girls aside from random dudes staring, calling estefhany hot, or making a joke about Corona virus (I'm Asian American). As far as the girls, I like Mari angels face but the bar girl life has taken a toll on her body these past 6 months. Estefhany was a tad mechanical and her tits were pretty saggy so I doubt I'd repeat with them unless they threw me a substantial discount haha. Now off to cartagena for 2 nights. I have 3 days wide open at the end of the trip and am thinking that unless I'm blown away by the medellin Facebook girls, my last 3 days will be spent in Santa Fe. I liked troya last time and the streetwalkers, and want to hit the other clubs that woodman says are atop his list so it'll be next Friday and Saturday at a minimum!
That is correct Sir. Especially around the South Stroll in the vicinity of Calle 20 and Carrera 15 b Monaco building. No problem with 30 k to play offers. Nice Young Talent. It has been reported up to 200 chicas in the area when busy. Fantastic selection. Natural bodies included. One of my "go to" spots in Santa Fe.
30 k.Actually, I probably exaggerated a bit with the 200 number, probably about 150+ in that area. But some hotties for sure. The streetie sweetie situation is better than ever, I have smashed some hot girls down there.
What was the nature of the fail? Was it you or was it her?Fails happen, I try really hard to vette girls for attitude and try to get a hint about what to expect but there are a some who put on a good show and turn into a zero when you get in the room. Shit happens, I'm always leery trying new girls. It's great if you can get a lapdance and flirt a bit in the clubs.
DreamCarnarvon
03-10-20, 22:36
I am completely comfortable in Santa Fe, and didn't get any shit from anybody when I was walking hand in hand from both of the girls aside from random dudes staring, calling estefhany hot, or making a joke about Corona virus (I'm Asian American).I am Asian American as well. And when I was in Santa Fe last year, it was literally every other girl on the streets calling out "chino" when I walked by. It may seemed like a minor nuisance but it gets quite old after a while. And I absolutely hated it. I just can't imagine now with the coronavirus, its probably 1000 x worse. I have been to several other central and south american countries and Colombia is the worst by far. Its one of the many reasons I don't like Santa Fe. On the other hand, the Colombian guys don't bother me at all, other than harassing me to go into the clubs but without the racism.
I'm planning to return to Colombia some time this year but will probably skip Bogota and Santa Fe.
Mr Enternational
03-11-20, 03:47
I am Asian American as well. And when I was in Santa Fe last year, it was literally every other girl on the streets calling out "chino" when I walked by. It may seemed like a minor nuisance but it gets quite old after a while. And I absolutely hated it. Why did you have a problem with it? They just call out to you by the visible characteristics. Nobody means any harm by it. If you were slim they would call out flaquito. If you were fat they would call out gordito. I am Black American (but not dark skin), so to me they call out moreno. When I am in Brazil they call out Negao. When I am in Tijuana they call out chocolatay. Here in Thailand they call out
chocolate man. They just want to get your attention in hopes of getting business from you.
Why did you have a problem with it? They just call out to you by the visible characteristics. Nobody means any harm by it. If you were slim they would call out flaquito. If you were fat they would call out gordito. I am Black American (but not dark skin), so to me they call out moreno. When I am in Brazil they call out Negao. When I am in Tijuana they call out chocolatay. Here in Thailand they call out
chocolate man. They just want to get your attention in hopes of getting business from you.Correct! Nothing to do with racism, it is not in their best interest to lose your business by insulting you. They intend it to be a playful way to capture your attention.
Price to quality debate:
I recently decided to sample some of the high end hookers (300 k / h average price) for 'research' purposes. On the positive side, all gave solid performances. Unfortunately, I can say the same of 80% of the 80 - 150 k hookers I have seen so far. But I could not deny the convenience value; easy scheduling, and you get exactly what you order. My conclusion is that they can be of value if you have very limited time (on business) and can't afford to wade through countless ads trying to weed out potential scammers. More like using the hotel mini bar.
On an light side, many of the agencies fronting the expensive hookers tend to pitch them as college students, doing this only 'part time' ostensibly to pay their 'tuition'. How original! And the ladies will pitch the exact same story when they show up. I guess the fantasy must endure very well.
Meaningless coincidences, awkward moments, and surprises or not:
I was very horny on Monday and had three sessions in row at different places, all three ladies were surprisingly called Alejandra, not sure how common this name is in the mongering scene.
Visited Mezzanine one afternoon and as I was a getting the prelude massage, another dude entered the next pigeonhole with his date. In a moment the dude started groaning so loudly, it got very awkward. Mr. Johnson shriveled faster than the head of a scared turtle. My lady turned up the music, but it didn't help much. Luckily for us (and obviously the lady who was servicing the dude), they dude was done in a minute and a half tops. Made me feel proud of myself.
Corona virus and BJ: An energetic lady visited my casa, and she was a passionate lover, lots of enthusiastic DFK and the typical GFE stuff. She got real wet and and moaned convincingly as I fingered her. When it came the time to BJ, she insisted on CBJ, which was a surprise. I asked why. She said because she's afraid of corona virus. Go figure.
Went to Mezzanine a few days back and was surprised when my lady provided a delicious BBBJ without much prodding or the standard up-sell. I reciprocated by giving her a repeat visit. She upped me one by giving full blown GFE. I love Bogota!
Visited Santa Fe, lady population has gone up quite a bit since I was there last. Place is still seedy as hell and I just don't get it.
Other stuff:
As others have mentioned before me, getting good healthy food in Bogota is a challenge. Everything is deep fried, or a hamburger. Went to a high end cafe the other day and asked for something light. They suggested a sandwich. I said fair enough. Unfortunately the sandwich bread was brioche, made with 50% butter, with a taste to prove it. Inside was cheese, generous creamy sauce, bacon,. You get the idea. I feel like every time I leave Bogota I need to go on a broccoli diet for 2 weeks to clear my system.
Bogota has perhaps the best coffee houses I have visited globally. Avoid the chains, and visit the small indies that roast their coffee in house. One of my favorites is Kiri Cafe in the Parque 93 vicinity. When in Usaquen, try Cafe Quindio. Premium coffeee at its best.
I just can't imagine now with the coronavirus, its probably 1000 x worse.
I'm planning to return to Colombia some time this year but will probably skip Bogota and Santa Fe.I hope this joke is taken the right way, but your screen name does sound a bit like corona virus.
Price to quality debate:
I recently decided to sample some of the high end hookers (300 k / h average price) for 'research' purposes. On the positive side, all gave solid performances. Unfortunately, I can say the same of 80% of the 80 - 150 k hookers I have seen so far. But I could not deny the convenience value; easy scheduling, and you get exactly what you order. My conclusion is that they can be of value if you have very limited time (on business) and can't afford to wade through countless ads trying to weed out potential scammers. More like using the hotel mini bar.
On an light side, many of the agencies fronting the expensive hookers tend to pitch them as college students, doing this only 'part time' ostensibly to pay their 'tuition'. How original! And the ladies will pitch the exact same story when they show up. I guess the fantasy must endure very well.
Meaningless coincidences, awkward moments, and surprises or not:
I was very horny on Monday and had three sessions in row at different places, all three ladies were surprisingly called Alejandra, not sure how common this name is in the mongering scene...You need to branch out more with your food search. Sure there's plenty of fried food and hamburgers, but there's plenty of other things.
Go to Crepes and Waffles and try the Green Kiss soup. There's probably a potato themed place (search "patata") which does stuffed baked potatoes with lots of toppings to choose from. Look for any place with Ajiaco, a nice chicken and potato soup served with avocado, capers and sour creme.
Or just look for a typical Colombian place. Many serve a menu of the day meal. Small light salad with avocado, rice, possibly yuca or potatoes, soup, fried plantain and your choice of meat. I usually get chicken, grilled, boneless, skinless breast. Usually can get either fruit juice, or guarapo with it as well. Prices run from 8 k-15 k, all in.
Check out the malls. There's usually an excellent salad place. Just can't remember the name. Some of the Italian places are also good, not quite as healthy though.
MongerHunger
03-12-20, 11:16
I am Asian American as well. And when I was in Santa Fe last year, it was literally every other girl on the streets calling out "chino" when I walked by. It may seemed like a minor nuisance but it gets quite old after a while. And I absolutely hated it. I just can't imagine now with the coronavirus, its probably 1000 x worse. I have been to several other central and south american countries and Colombia is the worst by far. Its one of the many reasons I don't like Santa Fe. On the other hand, the Colombian guys don't bother me at all, other than harassing me to go into the clubs but without the racism.
I'm planning to return to Colombia some time this year but will probably skip Bogota and Santa Fe.After the first pop they are looking for the next client and a chance to get more money in less time. They want to be efficient for Capital Gains. Don't take it personal, it's business for them and should be only a service for you unless your pursue is beyond that. Explore more and expand your options with the Chino thing, use it to your advantage and peak their interest about you and you're ethnicity. A rare commodity for them.
What is the current weather situation there. I noticed it's about 20 cooler than in Orlando Florida. Should I leave the tank tops and shorts at home and concentrate on pants and long sleeves. Am I overthinking things Woodman I hit you up on email but I haven't got a response. I'm looking at heading to Bogota for a few days next week.
Also I wouldn’t dare wear A fresh pair of all white Tennis shoes so the DR because of the terrain. Could the same be said about Bogotá. I’ve been to Medellin twice and didn’t see a problem.
The latest development regarding Coronavirus:
Anyone been in Italy, Spain, France or China in the last 14 days has to stay in auto-quarantaine (at hotel for non residents) during 14 days at arrival in Colombia. Immigration will ask which hotel or adress will be used for autoquarantaine. Foreigners who don't respect this autoquarantaine risk deportation, Colombians risk prison.
Any social event with more than 1000 people is forbidden in Bogota during one month.
The latest development regarding Coronavirus:
Anyone been in Italy, Spain, France or China in the last 14 days has to stay in auto-quarantaine (at hotel for non residents) during 14 days at arrival in Colombia. Immigration will ask which hotel or adress will be used for autoquarantaine. Foreigners who don't respect this autoquarantaine risk deportation, Colombians risk prison.
Any social event with more than 1000 people is forbidden in Bogota during one month.Yes, Yellow Alert, I have been showing some guys around. I feel like we are in the last hurrah for a while, The CV is coming but not here yet (I hope). At the least bars and clubs will be shut in the future.
Action has been pretty good, plenty of hot girls.
What is the current weather situation there. I noticed it's about 20 cooler than in Orlando Florida. Should I leave the tank tops and shorts at home and concentrate on pants and long sleeves. Am I overthinking things Woodman I hit you up on email but I haven't got a response. I'm looking at heading to Bogota for a few days next week.
Also I wouldnt dare wear A fresh pair of all white Tennis shoes so the DR because of the terrain. Could the same be said about Bogot. Ive been to Medellin twice and didnt see a problem.Temperature at night in Bogota will drop into the high 40's. Daytime highs might get into the low 70's. Tank tops and shorts aren't common in Medellin. In Bogota they're rarer than an 18 year old virgin.
The shoes should be alright if you watch your step.
Blue Touch
03-13-20, 02:09
If the USA Is included in the list of self-quarantine, please let us know. Is there any website providing updated info on the immigration restriction?
Thanks a lot.
The latest development regarding Coronavirus:
Anyone been in Italy, Spain, France or China in the last 14 days has to stay in auto-quarantaine (at hotel for non residents) during 14 days at arrival in Colombia. Immigration will ask which hotel or adress will be used for autoquarantaine. Foreigners who don't respect this autoquarantaine risk deportation, Colombians risk prison.
Any social event with more than 1000 people is forbidden in Bogota during one month.
Yes, also in the daytime casas in Chapinero and clubs away from Santa Fe are hot housewives working on the down-low.I'm heading down next week and would love to know where to find these "casas". The last few times I've used agencies and have not had a bad experience yet. So far I've been able to get pics and videos from all of them and this last time the girl and I hit it off pretty well. She invited me to come hang out with her when I come back. I'll probably take her to dinner and then head back to her apartment for a session. LOL.
Also, I've yet to make it to Santa Fe. I just haven't drummed up the courage to go by myself yet.
Anyway, any help appreciated. I'll be coming back here every month for the foreseeable future unless this Corona shit ruins it for us.
Will write it up later. Here is from round 2, Just love a pretty plumper with big boobs / ass.
I'm heading down next week and would love to know where to find these "casas". The last few times I've used agencies and have not had a bad experience yet. So far I've been able to get pics and videos from all of them and this last time the girl and I hit it off pretty well. She invited me to come hang out with her when I come back. I'll probably take her to dinner and then head back to her apartment for a session. LOL.
Also, I've yet to make it to Santa Fe. I just haven't drummed up the courage to go by myself yet.
Anyway, any help appreciated. I'll be coming back here every month for the foreseeable future unless this Corona shit ruins it for us.Several daytime places in Chapinero around transmilenio stops, there is a PDF here? One place maybe not mentioned is the strip club Casa Show on Cr 8 between Calle 19 and 20 downtown.
Also a casa in an office building downtown on Cr 10 just a few doors north of Avenida Jimenez on NE corner.
Here the latest immigration restrictions in Colombia due to Coronavirus:
- The border with Venezuela is now closed.
- Starting Monday, non resident foreigners cannot enter the country anymore if they have been in Europe or Asia during the last 2 weeks.
- Colombians or residents entering the country and coming from Asia or Europe have to stay 2 weeks in self quarantine.
As a consequence, most flights between Colombia and Europe will probably be canceled starting next week. For info also, yesterday a Spanish citizen who didnt respect the self quarantine has been deported and cannot return to Colombia for several years.
Here the latest immigration restrictions in Colombia due to Coronavirus:
- The border with Venezuela is now closed.
- Starting Monday, non resident foreigners cannot enter the country anymore if they have been in Europe or Asia during the last 2 weeks.
- Colombians or residents entering the country and coming from Asia or Europe have to stay 2 weeks in self quarantine.
As a consequence, most flights between Colombia and Europe will probably be canceled starting next week. For info also, yesterday a Spanish citizen who didnt respect the self quarantine has been deported and cannot return to Colombia for several years.For those of us traveling from the US, we are still free to travel as of right now. You'll need to fill out a form before entering, and get "checked out" on a screening process. If you're fine, you'll be free to travel without restriction. Here's the link to the form:
http://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/controlpreventivocontraelcoronavirus
For those of us traveling from the US, we are still free to travel as of right now. You'll need to fill out a form before entering, and get "checked out" on a screening process. If you're fine, you'll be free to travel without restriction. Here's the link to the form:
http://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/controlpreventivocontraelcoronavirusI have a fever, if I have the virus, many do. I doubt there is much testing going on so in Colombia.
I have a fever, if I have the virus, many do. I doubt there is much testing going on so in Colombia.Sorry to hear you have a fever. You better lay low for a while. The screening process is being done at customs. If you get sick once you're in the country, there won't be any testing as of now. I have plans of coming down the end of next month if the protocol policy hasn't changed for US citizens.
Since I'm on the subject of the CV, I'll get out my little soap box. Yes, the CV is dangerous if you're elderly and / or have a preexisting compromised respiratory system. Of course, if a person falls into that category, every virus is dangerous. Let's take a step back and look at this. If a person never got caught up in what I call "CNN news syndrome", never heard all the media hype, and came down with the CV, that person would be sick for a week or two, and then back to daily life. They might go to work and say, "Hey, Bob, there's a hell of a bug going around. I hope you don't catch it. " And that would be the end of it. The media has made this sound like a death sentence for everyone, when in fact more people are dying from diarrhea around the world, but we don't hear about that. Like any virus, it's going to spread, and it has to run its course. I swear to Christ, people have lost their minds. I can't even buy toilet paper in my town because the shelves are bare, like the end of the world is coming.
Anyway, I'll put the soap box away. On a positive note, we'll all be back to the hobby after this passes. We just have to wait it out.
KangarooTed
03-15-20, 05:41
If a person 。。。, came down with the CV, that person would be sick for a week or two, and then back to daily life. They might go to work and say, "Hey, Bob, there's a hell of a bug going around. I hope you don't catch it. " And that would be the end of it. ..Unfortunately, there will be no going to work after a trip, for all Australians, Kiwis and more countries to come. As of today my holiday is off just a week short of flying out. Mandatory 14 day isolation on return means no employer will approve any holidays, stat. Even if they were approved they're cancelled now.
I think we will all be waiting this one out at home, and hopefully there will be a hell of a travel boom once its run its course.
Price to quality debate:
I recently decided to sample some of the high end hookers (300 k / h average price) for 'research' purposes. On the positive side, all gave solid performances. Unfortunately, I can say the same of 80% of the 80 - 150 k hookers I have seen so far. But I could not deny the convenience value; easy scheduling, and you get exactly what you order. My conclusion is that they can be of value if you have very limited time (on business) and can't afford to wade through countless ads trying to weed out potential scammers. More like using the hotel mini bar.
On an light side, many of the agencies fronting the expensive hookers tend to pitch them as college students, doing this only 'part time' ostensibly to pay their 'tuition'. How original! And the ladies will pitch the exact same story when they show up. I guess the fantasy must endure very well.
Meaningless coincidences, awkward moments, and surprises or not:
I was very horny on Monday and had three sessions in row at different places, all three ladies were surprisingly called Alejandra, not sure how common this name is in the mongering scene.
Visited Mezzanine one afternoon and as I was a getting the prelude massage, another dude entered the next pigeonhole with his date. In a moment the dude started groaning so loudly, it got very awkward. Mr. Johnson shriveled faster than the head of a scared turtle. My lady turned up the music, but it didn't help much. Luckily for us (and obviously the lady who was servicing the dude), they dude was done in a minute and a half tops. Made me feel proud of myself.
Corona virus and BJ: An energetic lady visited my casa, and she was a passionate lover, lots of enthusiastic DFK and the typical GFE stuff. She got real wet and and moaned convincingly as I fingered her. When it came the time to BJ, she insisted on CBJ, which was a surprise. I asked why. She said because she's afraid of corona virus. Go figure.
Went to Mezzanine a few days back and was surprised when my lady provided a delicious BBBJ without much prodding or the standard up-sell. I reciprocated by giving her a repeat visit. She upped me one by giving full blown GFE. I love Bogota!
Visited Santa Fe, lady population has gone up quite a bit since I was there last. Place is still seedy as hell and I just don't get it.
Other stuff:
As others have mentioned before me, getting good healthy food in Bogota is a challenge. Everything is deep fried, or a hamburger. Went to a high end cafe the other day and asked for something light. They suggested a sandwich. I said fair enough. Unfortunately the sandwich bread was brioche, made with 50% butter, with a taste to prove it. Inside was cheese, generous creamy sauce, bacon,. You get the idea. I feel like every time I leave Bogota I need to go on a broccoli diet for 2 weeks to clear my system.
Bogota has perhaps the best coffee houses I have visited globally. Avoid the chains, and visit the small indies that roast their coffee in house. One of my favorites is Kiri Cafe in the Parque 93 vicinity. When in Usaquen, try Cafe Quindio. Premium coffeee at its best.There is plenty of delicious colombian food to try on: two of my favories: Consulado Paisa Cra. 11 70 A - 44 my favorite bandeja paisa and the soups are very good or try club Colombia in av 82 between carrera 10 and 11 specially for brunch. It a bit expensive for locals (55 K all you can eat if I remember correctly), but you can taste lots of delicacies like tamales (small ones so you don't fill up), different kinds of empanadas, different kinds of arepas, special juices like lulada or exotic fruit juices, calentao, morcillas, etc etc.
Yep, everything goes very fast: Starting Monday NO NON RESIDENT FOREIGNER IS ALLOWED TO ENTER IN COLOMBIA. Any Colombian or resident entering Colombia has to go in self quarantine. I understood a lot of flights will be cancelled next week. I strongly recommend anyone visiting Colombia to return as soon as possible to his homecountry before there will be no flights anymore.
Yep, everything goes very fast: Starting Monday NO NON RESIDENT FOREIGNER IS ALLOWED TO ENTER IN COLOMBIA. Any Colombian or resident entering Colombia has to go in self quarantine. I understood a lot of flights will be cancelled next week. I strongly recommend anyone visiting Colombia to return as soon as possible to his homecountry before there will be no flights anymore.I knew it was going to happen, I have a very mild fever and I am sheltering en casa. Although I don't think I have and I if I do, there are tons more people who do.
Hopefully, this shall pass in a few weeks.
Blue Touch
03-16-20, 04:08
I wonder if this restriction affects the number of Venezuelan pros in Colombia directly or indirectly.
Yep, everything goes very fast: Starting Monday NO NON RESIDENT FOREIGNER IS ALLOWED TO ENTER IN COLOMBIA. Any Colombian or resident entering Colombia has to go in self quarantine. I understood a lot of flights will be cancelled next week. I strongly recommend anyone visiting Colombia to return as soon as possible to his homecountry before there will be no flights anymore.
I wonder if this restriction affects the number of Venezuelan pros in Colombia directly or indirectly.I doubt it as most have been allowed into Colombia as refugees, they will not let others in The border is shut.
KangarooTed
03-16-20, 08:19
So apart from the concern we may have for the Colombians' welfare, health wise and financially; the pertinent question is when will mongering return to normal?
Peak mongering in other countries may take years to return to pre virus levels, with many bars closing permanently and working girls leaving town to return home. A crash followed by a slow rebuild similar to the expectation for Pattaya or Bangkok in Thailand perhaps. Forecast. Slim pickings?
Colombian mongering may be not be hit as hard due to a lesser reliance on tourism and other factors?
It's anyone's guess at the moment.
In some countries crime against tourists may rise significantly once they return.
Will the financial effects of the virus cause a new desperation for many in Colombia with safety the casualty?
Or will it all blow over in a month or two with no real effect to the number of working girls, or the clubs and bars, or the "mood" on the streets?
KangarooTed
03-16-20, 09:14
Perhaps the rebound will present some favorable options.
I had the offer today to reschedule my flights, or take a refund. Went for the refund. I imagine the flight deals will be spectacular to entice travel once the bans are lifted. The airlines will be desperately trying to rebuild revenues and expedite the timeframe.
More Airbnbs should be available. Yesterday I was only offered part refunds, today, total refunds, and again, hosts will be keen to start the bookings coming in ASAP.
Empty hotels will be doing deals like crazy.
Tourism in general may get a big boost with tourists getting extra respect for showing their faith in the country on return, and boosting the economy.
How much will the working girls miss the gringo cock and bills.
I wonder if this restriction affects the number of Venezuelan pros in Colombia directly or indirectly.The boarder with Venezuela is closed. The Venezuelan in Colombia will not go back to Venezuela and the one in Venezuela are not supposed to enter anymore. So it should not affect the number of Venezuelan in Colombia. Regarding the action, it is very likely that it will slow down in the next days. Brothels are considered as nightclubs or bars, and it is very likely that the governement will close them very soon.
I wonder if this restriction affects the number of Venezuelan pros in Colombia directly or indirectly.Venezuelans would be limited to crossing the border between Puerto Carreno and Inirida on the Orinoco River in Vichada department. There's no border patrol there, and it's easy to cross if you ask a local fisherman. You can also cross over from Colombia to Venezuela the same way. If you're a tourist, it's a lot easier than getting a visa. There are many small settlements along the river.
Even though the borders are temporarily closed, at least Brazil remains open in case you want to re-route your travel plans.
Blue Touch
03-16-20, 18:56
Yep, everything goes very fastProbably the quickness of decision is partially caused by a political factor.
Elected officials, specially the President and his party, do not want administrative scandals and missteps added to the ongoing anti-government movement / sentiment.
Perhaps the rebound will present some favorable options.
I had the offer today to reschedule my flights, or take a refund. Went for the refund. I imagine the flight deals will be spectacular to entice travel once the bans are lifted. The airlines will be desperately trying to rebuild revenues and expedite the timeframe.
More Airbnbs should be available. Yesterday I was only offered part refunds, today, total refunds, and again, hosts will be keen to start the bookings coming in ASAP.
Empty hotels will be doing deals like crazy.
Tourism in general may get a big boost with tourists getting extra respect for showing their faith in the country on return, and boosting the economy.
How much will the working girls miss the gringo cock and bills.I think you're absolutely right on this. Colombia is trying to get over the stigma of being a dangerous country with over fifty years of FARC rebels and paramilitary death squads. Since 2017, after an agreement with FARC was reached, the country has been pushing heavily on tourism. After the ban is lifted, they'll be welcoming tourism with open arms to get the peso back up. As for the girls, this virus doesn't change the fact that Venezuela is still a wreck. The Vennies will be even more desperate for cash, prices might actually get lower. I predict the girls will come back in droves. We'll see.
As for the expats who are living in Colombia like Woodman, you guys are our brothers on the ground. You're our eyes and ears. The rest of us can only get info from the net, but you guys are actually there. So, please keep us updated during this damn travel ban.
The boarder with Venezuela is closed. The Venezuelan in Colombia will not go back to Venezuela and the one in Venezuela are not supposed to enter anymore. So it should not affect the number of Venezuelan in Colombia. Regarding the action, it is very likely that it will slow down in the next days. Brothels are considered as nightclubs or bars, and it is very likely that the governement will close them very soon.Here are the latest updated: starting today, ALL BARS AND NIGHTCLUBS OF COLOMBIA ARE CLOSED as well as any social event with more than 50 people.
Here are the latest updated: starting today, ALL BARS AND NIGHTCLUBS OF COLOMBIA ARE CLOSED as well as any social event with more than 50 people.Just came back from Santa Fe, There were a lot girls on the street. I have felt better from Friday, Saturday. I feel a hint of a fever, I was with the girl I was with the night before my fever, Had some fun.
All the clubs were closed. If they shut the hotels the girls will starve.
All the clubs were closed. If they shut the hotels the girls will starve.Several regions are already in curfew, including Cundinamarca (the one around Bogota) starting tonight. It will not last long before Bogota is under curfew also.
Several regions are already in curfew, including Cundinamarca (the one around Bogota) starting tonight. It will not last long before Bogota is under curfew also.Here it is: Bogota will be in quarantine during 4 days starting Friday.
GhostRecon
03-18-20, 22:13
Here it is: Bogota will be in quarantine during 4 days starting Friday."Service" people are still allowed to work.
"Service" people are still allowed to work.Not sure if authorities have the same definition of "service" people as we have!
Blue Touch
03-19-20, 02:37
Governors are taking more stringent measures than the President's policy while the President maintains that the former are not legal. As the most people support and trust their Governors, rather than the President, Duque looks pathetic.
https://colombiareports.com/coronavirus-colombias-local-authorities-advancing-drastic-measures-inept-duque-under-fire/
Here it is: Bogota will be in quarantine during 4 days starting Friday.
BlueChange
03-20-20, 21:35
Hey, so I decided to stay in Bogota. The states are tooo hot for me to go and the virus spread more. This is such a strange post to make.
I stocked up yestrday on some food. You are allowed to leave your house solo to get food. I was at Toastao and got some coffee and fresh baked crossiants. The streets are empty with the occasionally taxi or empmty bus.
Strange times we live in. And yes the clubs are closed.
I'm lucky I got a knock out 24 yo I met on tinder that lets me cum in her face or else I would be sexless all week.
Starting Tuesday, all boarders are closed, no more international flights for 30 days and the entire country enters in 19 days of full quarantine.
Starting Tuesday, all boarders are closed, no more international flights for 30 days and the entire country enters in 19 days of full quarantine.Thanks to all the expats keeping us updated, much appreciated.
Same here in Medellin. This situation is a reminder it's important to have a collection of contacts at all times. I expect my phone to really light up after a couple of days. So far it's only been a little more than normal.
Hey, so I decided to stay in Bogota. The states are tooo hot for me to go and the virus spread more. This is such a strange post to make.
I stocked up yestrday on some food. You are allowed to leave your house solo to get food. I was at Toastao and got some coffee and fresh baked crossiants. The streets are empty with the occasionally taxi or empmty bus.
Strange times we live in. And yes the clubs are closed.
I'm lucky I got a knock out 24 yo I met on tinder that lets me cum in her face or else I would be sexless all week.
The Tall Man
03-22-20, 22:31
Same here in Medellin. This situation is a reminder it's important to have a collection of contacts at all times. I expect my phone to really light up after a couple of days. So far it's only been a little more than normal.My whatsapp already started sparking yesterday here in Medellin, the first real quarantine day, and has continued through today, probably 6 or 7 from my stable with some of them I have known for a few years already, YES they are already very worried about the future as in what today holds out.
Looks like my choice of whom I shall spend considerable time with during this quarantine has boiled down to a really super cute and fun 19 yo Venezuelan whom I have spent time with before. Sex is so so but a great easy person to live with and a real pleasure to just cuddle with on long lonely nights.
She is trying to dial up an uber right now to get to my home.
The Tall Man.
LatinaLover#1
03-23-20, 03:59
Starting Tuesday, all boarders are closed, no more international flights for 30 days and the entire country enters in 19 days of full quarantine.The borders have been closed, and I was told by a very intelligent professional woman that the quarantine will be until April 15. I'm hoping that's correct, I had to cancel my April 8th trip and I am planning to reschedule it for April 16.
Mr Enternational
03-23-20, 07:14
The borders have been closed, and I was told by a very intelligent professional woman that the quarantine will be until April 15. I'm hoping that's correct, I had to cancel my April 8th trip and I am planning to reschedule it for April 16.What was her basis for telling you this? The numbers are going up by the minute. They are not going down. You can forget about April 16 buddy, unless you mean 2021. When April 16 comes, I want to see a post changing her description to a stupid biotch.
KangarooTed
03-23-20, 12:54
She is trying to dial up an uber right now to get to my home.
The Tall Man.Thought they banned Uber?
KangarooTed
03-23-20, 13:15
What was her basis for telling you this? The numbers are going up by the minute. They are not going down. You can forget about April 16 buddy, unless you mean 2021. When April 16 comes, I want to see a post changing her description to a stupid biotch.I had a quick internet browse and unless I misread it, I count over 100 countries with borders closed, and yet to see one that has reopened.
Colombia only really started the clock today, likely to be reset again on expiry " Inbound international commercial flights are suspended starting March 23 for 30 days".
I concur we will be waiting a while, for any of them to open. Maybe a rush of desperate mongers to whichever cracks first.
Legitimate fears or just wanting to get out? Probably some of both: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/colombia-coronavirus-23-killed-prison-riot-200323104057561.html.
Elvis 2008
03-24-20, 02:27
Thought they banned Uber?It is open again now.
Elvis 2008
03-24-20, 02:51
The borders have been closed, and I was told by a very intelligent professional woman that the quarantine will be until April 15. I'm hoping that's correct, I had to cancel my April 8th trip and I am planning to reschedule it for April 16.I agree with ME, LL. I wouldn't count on it. Colombia has less than 10,000 ventilators (the USA Has 200,000) although scientists there are working on a cheap prototype: https://colombiareports.com/colombia-close-to-having-worlds-first-open-source-and-low-cost-ventilator-to-beat-covid-19/.
Before NYC was worst in the USA, I figured it would be given the population density and climate. Bogota has a similar issue to NYC given the climate and population density. It will be interesting to see if the altitude has any effect on the virus. Right now, Lima is pretty warm but in three months or so, I think Lima is going to be the perfect petri dish for the virus.
Given the lack of ventilator capacity, I understand the crazy snap judgments made. Peru though was nuts: the borders instantly shut it down with no warning at all stranding foreigners.
Other part that is interesting to me is if we will see the warm and humid parts of the country escape the effects now that travel has been banned. Someone died in Cartagena, a taxi driver, after being exposed to someone who was infected from Italy. If the virus is as temperature and humidity dependent as expected, we should see a lot of new cases in Bogota, a moderate amount in Medellin, and very few in Cartagena and Barranquilla. It will be interesting to see if Cartagena and Barranquilla escape this virus threat unscathed.
I hate to watch in the sense that there are people going to be sick and dying, but I think given the extreme variations in climate, Colombia is going to be one of the most interesting places to watch with regards to the virus and how it spreads.
Sleazball02
03-26-20, 21:17
Hey fellas,
I wanted you guys opinion so lately I've been paying girls my price meaning I would agree to there crazy price but after I hit I just pay her my standard 50 k. Guys I'm tired of being cheated. Think about it the Colombian men don't have to pay that crazy price of 200 k+ so why should I anyway, I'm just resetting the market I guess. Am I wrong for doing this? If so why.
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Steve 9696
03-27-20, 01:32
Hey fellas,
I wanted you guys opinion so lately I've been paying girls my price meaning I would agree to there crazy price but after I hit I just pay her my standard 50 k. Guys I'm tired of being cheated. Think about it the Colombian men don't have to pay that crazy price of 200 k+ so why should I anyway, I'm just resetting the market I guess. Am I wrong for doing this? If so why.Are you trolling us? Or do you really do this?
If you do, yes it is completely wrong and you know why. Any time two parties agree on price and the seller delivers the goods the buyer must pay the agreed price. Totally doesn't matter what's being sold. Once agreed a deal is a deal. And what you are doing is flat out dishonest and deceitful. I see no room for debate personally.
Are you trolling us? Or do you really do this?
If you do, yes it is completely wrong and you know why. Any time two parties agree on price and the seller delivers the goods the buyer must pay the agreed price. Totally doesn't matter what's being sold. Once agreed a deal is a deal. And what you are doing is flat out dishonest and deceitful. I see no room for debate personally.The absolute worse person to deal with is a sleazeball.
There is no scientific evidence that climate has an affect on the virus. MERS that is in the family of coronavirus started in the Middle East. It's hot as fuck there. So don't count on it.
I agree with ME, LL. I wouldn't count on it. Colombia has less than 10,000 ventilators (the USA Has 200,000) although scientists there are working on a cheap prototype: https://colombiareports.com/colombia-close-to-having-worlds-first-open-source-and-low-cost-ventilator-to-beat-covid-19/.
Before NYC was worst in the USA, I figured it would be given the population density and climate. Bogota has a similar issue to NYC given the climate and population density. It will be interesting to see if the altitude has any effect on the virus. Right now, Lima is pretty warm but in three months or so, I think Lima is going to be the perfect petri dish for the virus.
Given the lack of ventilator capacity, I understand the crazy snap judgments made. Peru though was nuts: the borders instantly shut it down with no warning at all stranding foreigners.
Other part that is interesting to me is if we will see the warm and humid parts of the country escape the effects now that travel has been banned. Someone died in Cartagena, a taxi driver, after being exposed to someone who was infected from Italy. If the virus is as temperature and humidity dependent as expected, we should see a lot of new cases in Bogota, a moderate amount in Medellin, and very few in Cartagena and Barranquilla. It will be interesting to see if Cartagena and Barranquilla escape this virus threat unscathed..
Perhaps the rebound will present some favorable options.
I had the offer today to reschedule my flights, or take a refund. Went for the refund. I imagine the flight deals will be spectacular to entice travel once the bans are lifted. The airlines will be desperately trying to rebuild revenues and expedite the timeframe.Exactly this; I just picked up a DeltaOne seat in September direct flight from ATL for $700.
I agree with ME, LL. I wouldn't count on it. Colombia has less than 10,000 ventilators (the USA Has 200,000) although scientists there are working on a cheap prototype: https://colombiareports.com/colombia-close-to-having-worlds-first-open-source-and-low-cost-ventilator-to-beat-covid-19/.
Before NYC was worst in the USA, I figured it would be given the population density and climate. Bogota has a similar issue to NYC given the climate and population density. It will be interesting to see if the altitude has any effect on the virus. Right now, Lima is pretty warm but in three months or so, I think Lima is going to be the perfect petri dish for the virus.
Given the lack of ventilator capacity, I understand the crazy snap judgments made. Peru though was nuts: the borders instantly shut it down with no warning at all stranding foreigners.
Other part that is interesting to me is if we will see the warm and humid parts of the country escape the effects now that travel has been banned. Someone died in Cartagena, a taxi driver, after being exposed to someone who was infected from Italy. If the virus is as temperature and humidity dependent as expected, we should see a lot of new cases in Bogota, a moderate amount in Medellin, and very few in Cartagena and Barranquilla. It will be interesting to see if Cartagena and Barranquilla escape this virus threat unscathed.
I hate to watch in the sense that there are people going to be sick and dying, but I think given the extreme variations in climate, Colombia is going to be one of the most interesting places to watch with regards to the virus and how it spreads.I live in NY, but thankfully not in the city. The reason the US is showing the most cases is because of all the available testing. Many developing countries don't have access to that amount of testing, so they show lower numbers. The fact is the virus is everywhere now like any other virus, not just the US, China, and some European countries. Since over 90% of people that catch this have mild to no symptoms, it's impossible to have a correct count. I've had a cough for the past two weeks. Does that mean I caught the virus? Who knows, but it's going away. The virus will spread fast through any city around the world because of population density. It doesn't matter if its NYC, Bogota, or Timbuktu. I just read that Colombia is considering extending the lock-down by another three months, and I'm not surprised. Eventually, like the flu, a vaccine will be developed, but it's going to be a while.
I live in NY, but thankfully not in the city. The reason the US is showing the most cases is because of all the available testing. Many developing countries don't have access to that amount of testing, so they show lower numbers. The fact is the virus is everywhere now like any other virus, not just the US, China, and some European countries. Since over 90% of people that catch this have mild to no symptoms, it's impossible to have a correct count. I've had a cough for the past two weeks. Does that mean I caught the virus? Who knows, but it's going away. The virus will spread fast through any city around the world because of population density. It doesn't matter if its NYC, Bogota, or Timbuktu. I just read that Colombia is considering extending the lock-down by another three months, and I'm not surprised. Eventually, like the flu, a vaccine will be developed, but it's going to be a while.Don't think the US is up to speed on testing. In spite of what someone said yesterday. On a per capita basis US is still way behind lots of places. But I agree that many other places are behind too, and for sure Colombia. And also that there are a lot of un-counted people with it wandering around.
The key is to get people to self isolate. And hopefully be able to test those who deliver essential services and health care so that any infections can be identified quickly and get those people isolated.
I think things will be locked down for a while. No country can tolerate a 1% death rate. They will try to save as many people as possible.
Elvis 2008
03-31-20, 22:41
There is no scientific evidence that climate has an affect on the virus. MERS that is in the family of coronavirus started in the Middle East. It's hot as fuck there. So don't count on it.Sigh. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3550308.
There seems to be a lot of stupid hysteria out there: reinfection, no immunity, 100,000 to 200,000 dead in the USA. Anyone who looks objectively at the data can make their own conclusions about what is happening. When I looked at climate, international travels, and the shape of the curve with regards to infection, what I expected to see and what I have seen are the same.
If you look at existing cases, governments IMO are keeping the lag time of recovered cases deliberately low and give the impression that the virus is still spreading with new end in sight.
If you look at the curves of countries that have recovered, there is an exponential surge up, a peaking and then an exponential falling off.
If you read between the lines of the news, that is why there is hype IMO about re-infection even though there has been no significant re-infection in recovered countries. Maybe it comes back in the Fall but no one really knows what will happen then.
If you look at new cases not just in the USA, but in the world, it is pretty clear what part of the curve we are on. The number of new cases is at about 20,000 per day in the USA and 50,000 in the world right now and 100 or so in Colombia, and it has been like that for about the last 5-6 days. IMO the world, the USA, and even Colombia are in the plateau phase.
Feel free to hurl insults about "scientific evidence" though. I am used to that. When the "experts" are touting huge numbers like 100,000 to 200,000 American deaths (whatever the fuck that means), I tune them out. I would bet anyone that there will be between 0 and 100,000 dead in the USA given that there were only 3300 deaths in China and 12,000 in Italy.
Sigh. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3550308.
There seems to be a lot of stupid hysteria out there: reinfection, no immunity, 100,000 to 200,000 dead in the USA. Anyone who looks objectively at the data can make their own conclusions about what is happening. When I looked at climate, international travels, and the shape of the curve with regards to infection, what I expected to see and what I have seen are the same.
If you look at existing cases, governments IMO are keeping the lag time of recovered cases deliberately low and give the impression that the virus is still spreading with new end in sight.
If you look at the curves of countries that have recovered, there is an exponential surge up, a peaking and then an exponential falling off.
If you read between the lines of the news, that is why there is hype IMO about re-infection even though there has been no significant re-infection in recovered countries. Maybe it comes back in the Fall but no one really knows what will happen then.
If you look at new cases not just in the USA, but in the world, it is pretty clear what part of the curve we are on. The number of new cases is at about 20,000 per day in the USA and 50,000 in the world right now and 100 or so in Colombia, and it has been like that for about the last 5-6 days. IMO the world, the USA, and even Colombia are in the plateau phase.
Feel free to hurl insults about "scientific evidence" though. I am used to that. When the "experts" are touting huge numbers like 100,000 to 200,000 American deaths (whatever the fuck that means), I tune them out. I would bet anyone that there will be between 0 and 100,000 dead in the USA given that there were only 3300 deaths in China and 12,000 in Italy.I'm not going to bet on this. I really hope I am wrong. So never bet on something if you're hoping to lose.
But I can't see how it is going to stop or slow yet. So I think the 100 thousand plus is a real possibility. Looking at the curves, etc. Today again. Wish I could think or even hope otherwise.
All I can say. I really really hope you are right.
KangarooTed
04-01-20, 22:29
Am I in the right thread here? About Bogota?
Latest relevant news: "Mayor Claudia Lpez rattled already jolted nerves of nine million Bogotanos after she raised the probability that the quarantine for the Colombian capital could be extended to June. ".
It seems the authorities are taking a very hardline approach to tackle the virus spread, and one I'm sure we all hope will expedite a return to 'normal'.
In 6 months time. What will Bogota be like for mongers?
Kanga.
Elvis 2008
04-02-20, 01:14
Am I in the right thread here? About Bogota?
Latest relevant news: "Mayor Claudia Lpez rattled already jolted nerves of nine million Bogotanos after she raised the probability that the quarantine for the Colombian capital could be extended to June. ".
It seems the authorities are taking a very hardline approach to tackle the virus spread, and one I'm sure we all hope will expedite a return to 'normal'.
In 6 months time. What will Bogota be like for mongers?
Kanga.Yeah, my gals told me about this. I am not sure the rest of the country will be like this though. Bogota is a practically perfect place for the virus to spread.
For mongers? For the ones who have not lost their jobs, it will be off the chain. There will be less competition from men, the existing women will be desperate, the exchange rate will still be favorable, and many of the women who were not selling themselves will be seeing no choice but to do so. The only downside is the border with Venezuela probably will not be opened up for a while.
The best mongering activities in recent time may have been Buenos Aires in 2002 or so and Russia and Ukraine a few years before that. Colombia in 2020 could possibly rival those times.
Question fellas, in my scientific research regarding the flora and fauna of Bogota Santa Fe do there exist the rare species of slim, hardbodied and toned females? I see plenty of photos and talk regarding VLAs (very large asses) and monstrous boobies but what about some silicone-free slim athletic girls can you find them in Santa Fe or not, thank you!
Yeah, my gals told me about this. I am not sure the rest of the country will be like this though. Bogota is a practically perfect place for the virus to spread.
For mongers? For the ones who have not lost their jobs, it will be off the chain. There will be less competition from men, the existing women will be desperate, the exchange rate will still be favorable, and many of the women who were not selling themselves will be seeing no choice but to do so. The only downside is the border with Venezuela probably will not be opened up for a while.
The best mongering activities in recent time may have been Buenos Aires in 2002 or so and Russia and Ukraine a few years before that. Colombia in 2020 could possibly rival those times.I have also been reading this in other fora that women will be desperate and go into p4p for money. I don't think it is that simple. For one thing blokes seem to be forgetting that Colombian men are also hurting and they are the girls biggest meal ticket. Foreign men contribute a very small percentage of the girls' income and BTW foreign men's finances are taking a beating too. In order to survive girls will have to look for alternative sources of income. I hope I am wrong but I do not see good times ahead for our hobby.
Sigh. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3550308.
There seems to be a lot of stupid hysteria out there: reinfection, no immunity, 100,000 to 200,000 dead in the USA. Anyone who looks objectively at the data can make their own conclusions about what is happening. When I looked at climate, international travels, and the shape of the curve with regards to infection, what I expected to see and what I have seen are the same.
If you look at existing cases, governments IMO are keeping the lag time of recovered cases deliberately low and give the impression that the virus is still spreading with new end in sight.
If you look at the curves of countries that have recovered, there is an exponential surge up, a peaking and then an exponential falling off..OK you invited it. But I won't insult you because it doesn't help and who knows you may end up being right. But here are a few points. Everything I've read suggests the body if it is strong enough will fight off the virus and develop antibodies that kill off the virus and probably diminish the likelihood of 'reinfection'. I'm not so sure climate is playing such a big role in how events are unfolding. There are cases in many Middle Eastern countries, and Southern hemisphere countries and the growth rate is over 10% a day. Their smaller case numbers seem to be accounted for by the date of the first recognized case. You might also consider that Italy is having a much higher mortality rate because the average age of the population is higher. The US is pretty close to the same average age. (I. E. Over 40). Italy has just under 14,000 deaths today and the US is 5.5 times the population. So, ceteris paribus the equivalent deaths would be about 90,000 but the cases are growing and so are the deaths so 100,000 doesn't seem like a far fetched estimate at this point. Obviously a mitigating factor is that the US has much more medical resources available. I don't think you can rely on the patterns from other countries. China, South Korea and Singapore have taken extraordinary measures to limit the spread of the virus and to test and isolate people with positive tests. This includes taking their phone and identifying contacts over the last month, testing and isolating those contacts and their contacts. These measures wouldn't be popular in the US and there seems to be very little political will to really do what it takes to "beat" the virus. So, 100,000 deaths is the US? I don't think that is an exaggerated possibility at all. Like someone else said, I hope I'm wrong.
I have also been reading this in other fora that women will be desperate and go into p4p for money. I don't think it is that simple. For one thing blokes seem to be forgetting that Colombian men are also hurting and they are the girls biggest meal ticket. Foreign men contribute a very small percentage of the girls' income and BTW foreign men's finances are taking a beating too. In order to survive girls will have to look for alternative sources of income. I hope I am wrong but I do not see good times ahead for our hobby.Funny you should mention that.
In the last few weeks there's been a big influx of Colombians into the live streaming apps. These are similar to the webcam sites, except they are PG rated and all you need is a phone.
One popular app, BigO, was dominated by Vietnamese women 8 months ago. About 4 months ago US women became the most common and most popular. Now it's Colombianas everywhere, and at least some of them are making money. I imagine there's been an increase on the webcam sites as well.
Some of the women are going to find other ways to survive.
I'm thinking there will be several gringos who decide it's time to marry their favorite prepago in case they ever get stuck at home again. There are also some mongers who are in a daily sweat over the markets, as that is their primary source of income.
This is going to change things. Who knows what the changes will be?
LeyenLouvain
04-02-20, 19:50
One popular app, BigO, was dominated by Vietnamese women 8 months ago. About 4 months ago US women became the most common and most popular. Now it's Colombianas everywhere, and at least some of them are making money. What's the point, is it men giving women money for being pretty without any sexual content, or is it more of an introduction to some sexual service?
The Tall Man
04-02-20, 20:09
Funny you should mention that.
In the last few weeks there's been a big influx of Colombians into the live streaming apps. These are similar to the webcam sites, except they are PG rated and all you need is a phone.
One popular app, BigO, was dominated by Vietnamese women 8 months ago. About 4 months ago US women became the most common and most popular. Now it's Colombianas everywhere, and at least some of them are making money. I imagine there's been an increase on the webcam sites as well.
Some of the women are going to find other ways to survive.
I'm thinking there will be several gringos who decide it's time to marry their favorite prepago in case they ever get stuck at home again. There are also some mongers who are in a daily sweat over the markets, as that is their primary source of income.
This is going to change things. Who knows what the changes will be?Interesting observation as I just saw a news article in the past few days where they expect a major increase in webcam models for Colombian women.
Let's see how this thing pans out.
The Tall Man.
What's the point, is it men giving women money for being pretty without any sexual content, or is it more of an introduction to some sexual service?Sometimes I think mongers are like a lost Amazon tribe, insulated from the rest of the world. Nothing exists beyond the jungle of BBBJ and cuanto cuesta.
There are kids on YouTube making ridiculous money because people like to watch them play video games. There are people on Instagram making ridiculous money, just posting pictures of themselves, wearing clothes, on a beach.
The world is becoming more virtual every day. Live streaming services have been around for several years. Sony had a popular one, but they had to shut it down. Too many kids were using it to do live porn shows. Today's live streaming services use a reporting system and admins to flag and block any inappropriate content.
It's live streaming. Anyone can do it. It allows someone to effectively create their own TV show. Some people cook, show their makeup tricks, do crafts, sing or dance. Many use it to show off their body, without nudity. A few women use it to entice guys into the strip clubs they work at. A few are escorts and use it to attract new customers. Some use it to sell their porn videos.
Most just use it for entertainment. Guys give money to the girls they like.
What's the point? Beats me. There are guys here looking for girls with cartoon asses. What's the point? There are guys looking for huge, fake breasts. What's the point? No matter what it is, if you're not interested in it, you'll probably think it's pointless.
Funny you should mention that.
In the last few weeks there's been a big influx of Colombians into the live streaming apps. These are similar to the webcam sites, except they are PG rated and all you need is a phone.
One popular app, BigO, was dominated by Vietnamese women 8 months ago. About 4 months ago US women became the most common and most popular. Now it's Colombianas everywhere, and at least some of them are making money. I imagine there's been an increase on the webcam sites as well.
Some of the women are going to find other ways to survive.
I'm thinking there will be several gringos who decide it's time to marry their favorite prepago in case they ever get stuck at home again. There are also some mongers who are in a daily sweat over the markets, as that is their primary source of income.
This is going to change things. Who knows what the changes will be?It's good that the girls can find online routes for money. I hope they do whatever they can to get by. When all this is over, I believe the world's oldest profession will come right back to all our favorite places. That's why it's called the world's oldest profession, it's survived wars, famine, and pandemics throughout the ages. There will always be a demand, hence always a source of income for the girls. The Vennies in Bogota are on the brink of riots since many are being evicted and are without aid. Many don't have skills to offer, and that's why they turned to the life of a working girl in the first place. Mongers will probably have to beat them off with a stick when the borders open back up. Let history be our guide.
KangarooTed
04-03-20, 12:35
Most just use it for entertainment. Guys give money to the girls they like..From the Bogota Post about small businesses and people hustling through the lockdown:
"One person who is doing well is Medusa Perverette, an online webcam model. With the dollar remaining resilient throughout the pandemic, she's continued earning at a good rate. Better yet, with people locked indoors, many are searching for human contact in any way they can find, as Medusa explains. "Webcam platforms have always been an escape for many people. The truth is, I've passed (the quarantine time) taking advantage of the fact that everyone's at home."
Of course, her clientele is international, including plenty in Europe and Asia. "They're worried," she says, "but the thinking isn't as depressive as here in Latin America. My users aren't getting depressed, it's the people here that are doing that. " It's reassuring to know that for one person at least, life is good. "I made a million this weekend, it's the perfect moment," Medusa concludes."
Kanga.
Bango Cheito
04-04-20, 07:37
From the Bogota Post about small businesses and people hustling through the lockdown:
"One person who is doing well is Medusa Perverette, an online webcam model. With the dollar remaining resilient throughout the pandemic, she's continued earning at a good rate. Better yet, with people locked indoors, many are searching for human contact in any way they can find, as Medusa explains. "Webcam platforms have always been an escape for many people. The truth is, I've passed (the quarantine time) taking advantage of the fact that everyone's at home."
Of course, her clientele is international, including plenty in Europe and Asia. "They're worried," she says, "but the thinking isn't as depressive as here in Latin America. My users aren't getting depressed, it's the people here that are doing that. " It's reassuring to know that for one person at least, life is good. "I made a million this weekend, it's the perfect moment," Medusa concludes."
Kanga.Medusa is an acquaintance of mine. She's so full of shit her eyes turned brown. I dunno if any of you know her personally but take everything she says with a grain of salt.
Bango Cheito
04-04-20, 07:41
Don't think the US is up to speed on testing. In spite of what someone said yesterday. On a per capita basis US is still way behind lots of places. But I agree that many other places are behind too, and for sure Colombia. And also that there are a lot of un-counted people with it wandering around.
The key is to get people to self isolate. And hopefully be able to test those who deliver essential services and health care so that any infections can be identified quickly and get those people isolated.
I think things will be locked down for a while. No country can tolerate a 1% death rate. They will try to save as many people as possible.3 months anywhere on the world with the economy ground to a halt is impossible. At what point do you think it becomes better to YOLO it? Who wouldn't rather die of a virus than starve to death?
I don't think they can possibly go beyond the end of April.
The good news is that the early control measures have meant for very impressive numbers here in Colombia. This will probably be one of the first countries on Earth back on point.
LeyenLouvain
04-04-20, 13:08
Most just use it for entertainment. Guys give money to the girls they like.
Thanks for explaining how it works. I don't mind giving a bit of money to these girls in barrios populares who are entertaining people in these difficult times. However I am discouraged by the fact that the platform seems to take a massive 85% commission!
KangarooTed
04-05-20, 09:15
Thanks for explaining how it works. I don't mind giving a bit of money to these girls in barrios populares who are entertaining people in these difficult times. However I am discouraged by the fact that the platform seems to take a massive 85% commission!Why be discouraged. The Platform has to pay bills. I'm no expert on the subject but that % you note is not one I am familiar with. My understanding is it ranges the other way from 80% to the girls, down to 50%.
The market (girls) will decide which commission structure or provider works best for them and word of mouth is the biggest marketer in this business.
Obviously the main reason the girls do it is for money. If they don't see money coming their way they will try and look for somewhere else or something else.
Spent a couple of months in Bogota, Dec-March 2020. Initially stayed in an apt (AirBNB) but eventually settled in Hotel San Francisco calle 24 Carrera 10 for about 73,000 a night, or 20 to 25 dollars depending in exchange rate. As background, I turned 63 while I was down there, speak good Spanish and have spent quality time in Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, DR Medellin and Bogota Colombia. At my age I only have desire every third day or perhaps every other day.
One other detail that affects my experience is that I am usually horny in the morning, and a couple of beers and any drugs will put me out of play so to speak. So mornings are naturally best.
I really enjoyed Santa Fe. It is located between Caracas (14) and Carrerra 17, between calles 19 and 24. The "normal" action is between 22 and 24, with Trannies and such-like between 22 and 19.
Anytime I felt like it, say at 10 in the morning, I would take the short walk from Hotel San Francisco down 24 to the Zone. I got to know people, I had a place to sit and drink "tinto" on the corner, bars I knew and girls I knew.
There is everything to choose from there, fat skinny old young black white. There is much craziness packed into those several square blocks, it is impossible to convey that amount of crazy. And not just the women, everything is crazy there.
Without too much effort you could find your 9 or 10 or whatever turns you on, anytime of the day or night up till say 2 am. The going rate was 40 mil, close to 10 bucks, but if I found a nice one that I liked I would give her more.
The majority of women working there now are from Venezuela.
It's all shut down now. Those people have no way to survive now.
I am glad I got to know the Zone in it's glory, it may never return.
Mr Enternational
04-06-20, 05:42
Thanks for explaining how it works. I don't mind giving a bit of money to these girls in barrios populares who are entertaining people in these difficult times. However I am discouraged by the fact that the platform seems to take a massive 85% commission!Why? Were you discouraged that record companies did the same thing so you did not buy any records? When you look online, chicks willing to show their asses are a dime a dozen and the people that have built the platforms realize that. I see it as whereas some mongers like to overpay chicks, these companies are really only paying them what it is actually worth. And evidently the chicks are fine with the amount they are receiving or they would not be doing it.
When you go to a fast food restaurant and order a drink it costs them about 10 cents, but you are paying $1.50 for it. Where is the discouragement in that?
KangarooTed
04-06-20, 10:17
I had a place to sit and drink "tinto" on the corner, bars I knew and girls I knew.
I love hanging around on corners in Santa Fe, mostly just loitering in the street when it's early. Which corner was your favoured in the a / m?
Kanga.
LeyenLouvain
04-06-20, 11:48
Thanks for your replies.
Why be discouraged. The Platform has to pay bills. I'm no expert on the subject but that % you note is not one I am familiar with. My understanding is it ranges the other way from 80% to the girls, down to 50%.
The market (girls) will decide which commission structure or provider works best for them and word of mouth is the biggest marketer in this business.
Obviously the main reason the girls do it is for money. If they don't see money coming their way they will try and look for somewhere else or something else.The figures I could find were about 3 cents to buy a token, but half a cent of value when she redeems it. I would expect the girl to get at least 50% of what I put in. Otherwise it feels that I would be wasting my money like those people who buy tokens in games like Candy Crush or Fortnite without any prospect of winning real cash.
Why? Were you discouraged that record companies did the same thing so you did not buy any records? When you look online, chicks willing to show their asses are a dime a dozen and the people that have built the platforms realize that. I see it as whereas some mongers like to overpay chicks, these companies are really only paying them what it is actually worth. And evidently the chicks are fine with the amount they are receiving or they would not be doing it.
When you go to a fast food restaurant and order a drink it costs them about 10 cents, but you are paying $1.50 for it. Where is the discouragement in that?In those examples I couldn't actually get the product without paying, but the girls will be dancing whether I pay or not!
Thanks for your replies.
The figures I could find were about 3 cents to buy a token, but half a cent of value when she redeems it. I would expect the girl to get at least 50% of what I put in. Otherwise it feels that I would be wasting my money like those people who buy tokens in games like Candy Crush or Fortnite without any prospect of winning real cash.
In those examples I couldn't actually get the product without paying, but the girls will be dancing whether I pay or not!I'll try to unravel this.
First, there are 2 different types of platforms here, webcam and livestream.
Webcam platforms are set up as porn sites, all models require validated identification and many payment processors won't deal with them for fear of getting caught up in trafficking laws. Most webcam sites sell tokens for about $0. 08 each. They buy tokens for $0. 05 each. Customer pays $80 for 1,000 tokens, model gets paid $50 for 1,000 tokens. Except the money usually doesn't go to the model. It goes to the studio she probably works for. The studio takes their cut. That share depends on how much the studio provides the model. If she works in the studio's room, they probably take half. If she works in her own apartment, using her own equipment, they may only take 20%, in select cases even less. So a typical webcam model gets 30-40% of what the customer pays.
Livestream platforms are mostly setup for everyone. With a couple of exceptions, no porn allowed, no verified identification. They also require nothing more than a smartphone and internet connection. A smaller percentage of the models need to go through a studio, although there are studios operating on these platforms. The cut taken by the platform is greater than webcam, but varies quite a bit. However, most models don't need to give a share to a studio, so it balances somewhat.
I love hanging around on corners in Santa Fe, mostly just loitering in the street when it's early. Which corner was your favoured in the a / m?
Kanga.That would be 24 and 15, oj and tinto, mostly tinto. Older Venezuelan guy with some younger helpers. Buckets with a board seat. Sit with a tinto and check things out in comfort and relaxed.
Mr Enternational
04-07-20, 04:50
I'll try to unravel this.
First, there are 2 different types of platforms here, webcam and livestream.And there is also a third platform. The other night I stayed over a chick's place here in Thailand. She said she meets guys on the dating sites. They deposit $30-$50 in her paypal. She gets on whatsapp or whatever with them and does a camshow for 10 minutes.
LeyenLouvain
04-07-20, 10:35
And there is also a third platform. The other night I stayed over a chick's place here in Thailand. She said she meets guys on the dating sites. They deposit $30-$50 in her paypal. She gets on whatsapp or whatever with them and does a camshow for 10 minutes.
Webcam platforms are set up as porn sites..
Livestream platforms are mostly setup for everyone. Thanks both. I wouldn't pay $30 for a live cam show! The livestream platforms are probably useful for practising Spanish.
I'm planning a 6 night trip in September for my 40th and hoping the world goes back to semi-normal by then. I have done a lot of reading here, read Routard's guide and been looking around the forum as well. That being said, is this the right venue to ask questions? I don't want to spam the channel with 30+ questions, but I an also looking for information that I don't think is quite addressed in these FAQS.
Thoughts? Thanks, guys!
And there is also a third platform. The other night I stayed over a chick's place here in Thailand. She said she meets guys on the dating sites. They deposit $30-$50 in her paypal. She gets on whatsapp or whatever with them and does a camshow for 10 minutes.That's not so much a platform as a entrepreneur. You can find those all over the world. Just women who reach out to guys wherever they can and convince them to send money for a sex show. Used to be huge in the Philippines, now it seems to be really common in Vietnam.
Even better, there are quite a few escorts who use the livestream platforms to get guys to follow their Snapchat. Besides selling pictures and videos from there, they advertise their travel schedule so guys can come fuck them.
And there is also a third platform. ----------------------------------- She said she meets guys on the dating sites. They deposit $30-$50 in her paypal. She gets on whatsapp or whatever with them and does a camshow for 10 minutes.This is very popular with girls living in Venezuela, and Philippine. They will seek you out. I ended up chatting with one. I said I can't go to your country, then she offered to perform any requests online for money via paypal. I was not interested so I said I would send her some money anyway, how much was the service? She told me it's based on the request. I said show me the receipts so I have an idea on how much to send as I don't want her to perform anything. I was surprised to learn the minimum she showed me was US $50. The highest was $100. Many others in between. I think that is a significant amount of money in Venezuela. This girl looks like a normal girl, a little chubby, the attractive part to me is she looks like a girl next door, and that is it.
I'm planning a 6 night trip in September for my 40th and hoping the world goes back to semi-normal by then. I have done a lot of reading here, read Routard's guide and been looking around the forum as well. That being said, is this the right venue to ask questions? I don't want to spam the channel with 30+ questions, but I an also looking for information that I don't think is quite addressed in these FAQS.
Thoughts? Thanks, guys!It's good to do your research and plan things out, but I wouldn't pull the trigger yet if I were you. Wait and see when the border opens up officially. It's too early to make predictions. Colombia will most likely open to residents first, and then foreigners. If you're coming from the US, like me, we're on the black list right now due to all the active cases. Things have to settle down everywhere before any traveling happens. I know how you feel, because I had the same idea as I turn 40 this year as well. But, it is what it is. Just be patient. Trust me, the girls will be there when all this is under control. In the meantime, practice your Spanish and read thoroughly through the forum. There's a lot of good guys on the forum that can help with questions, but only if you do your research first. Nine times out of ten, your questions have most likely already been discussed on here.
I'm planning a 6 night trip in September for my 40th and hoping the world goes back to semi-normal by then. I have done a lot of reading here, read Routard's guide and been looking around the forum as well. That being said, is this the right venue to ask questions? I don't want to spam the channel with 30+ questions, but I an also looking for information that I don't think is quite addressed in these FAQS.
Thoughts? Thanks, guys!Instead of posting 30+ questions, I've found it more effective to come up with a plan and then share it in the forum for feedback. The research you'll have to do in order to create a plan will probably answer a lot of your questions.
Your plan should include the rough timeframe of when you plan to visit (sharing that you'll be there for 6 nights is a great start), the places you'll go, how you plan to get around, and, if possible, the girls you plan to fuck (or the services you'll use to find girls to fuck). Be as detailed as possible. You'll probably end up with a handful of questions left over, and you can post them at the end of your plan.
Good luck.
--Atanion.
Instead of posting 30+ questions, I've found it more effective to come up with a plan and then share it in the forum for feedback. The research you'll have to do in order to create a plan will probably answer a lot of your questions.
Your plan should include the rough timeframe of when you plan to visit (sharing that you'll be there for 6 nights is a great start), the places you'll go, how you plan to get around, and, if possible, the girls you plan to fuck (or the services you'll use to find girls to fuck). Be as detailed as possible. You'll probably end up with a handful of questions left over, and you can post them at the end of your plan.
Good luck.
--Atanion.Yes and no.
The problem with plans for first timers is they are either too conservative or unrealistic.
First step, get a paid subscription here. It sometimes takes awhile, but it's worth it. That way you can communicate directly with people, instead of hoping someone sees your post.
Next, and he's already started, tell the board what you enjoy, whether you're looking for daytime or nighttime action, what's your budget and what's most important. Some guys are only wanting the most beautiful girl, they don't care if she lays there like an inflatable doll. Some guys want giant tits or asses, some need the BBBJ. No sense in directing someone to Santa Fe if they'd be happier in the north clubs.
Once people know what you're about, they can better guide you in the right direction.
Be smart. New "Pico y Genero" rules.
http://thecitypaperbogota.com/bogota/bogota-to-enforce-gender-based-mobility-during-lockdown-announces-lopez/24497?fbclid=IwAR0ppl3C4iSpY1UaZdULCzRSpMkiNonrJ6zts7LP--KuqQKoPtjNK7Y72Sg
In a virtual press conference, the Mayor has restricted pedestrian and vehicular mobility in the entire city based on gender. Men will be able to do essential errands on all days ending with an ODD number, and women, on all days with an EVEN number.
@Orgasmico / @JjBee62 / @Atanion - thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback here. (posting once instead of spamming with three thank-you replies).
Already a member. I didn't want to be one of those guys who just ask questions and didn't contribute at least financially. (although bitcoin was a bit of a pain) I have been doing a ton of research and planning and spent the better part of the last 5 days during free time reading reports almost a year back in each category to catch up. Here is my current plan.
Practice more of my Spanish. I'm conversational, but lack context for sex, adult language, etc.
]I have been working adult language specifically. Started a document of things less often found that we could turn info an FAQ for people if you guys want me to share it. (ie: how to translate cum on your face).
Already have a flight booked - caught DeltaOne cabin direct on a flash sale - if things go south, I'm a diamond so it will just roll to credit. Same with the hotel, can cancel the last minute with no worries. I have the JW Marriott and AC Zona T booked tentative.
I have put about 10 hours into a custom google map. I know there are some on the board already, but I wanted someone that is a little more custom. I have mine now sorted by region, different icons per category, collapsable categories, color schemes, etc. I have everything on there: Night Clubs, Day Casas, Night Casas, Clubs, Pharmacies, Restaurants, etc, etc, etc. I have been doing TONS of research and tying them to Google Geocoordinates for places with reviews, etc
I'm going to spend the next few months working on things and crossing my fingers that the world goes back to normal, then post a pretty detailed plan with my preferences and get feedback.
I have been working adult language specifically. Started a document of things less often found that we could turn info an FAQ for people if you guys want me to share it. (ie: how to translate cum on your face).
Already have a flight booked - caught DeltaOne cabin direct on a flash sale - if things go south, I'm a diamond so it will just roll to credit. Same with the hotel, can cancel the last minute with no worries. I have the JW Marriott and AC Zona T booked tentative.
I have put about 10 hours into a custom google map. I know there are some on the board already, but I wanted someone that is a little more custom. I have mine now sorted by region, different icons per category, collapsable categories, color schemes, etc. I have everything on there: Night Clubs, Day Casas, Night Casas, Clubs, Pharmacies, Restaurants, etc, etc, etc. I have been doing TONS of research and tying them to Google Geocoordinates for places with reviews, etcDamn, brother, when is the last time you got laid? More power to you, ha, ha. Good that you're ambitious, but you need to understand something: things are not going to be exactly as they were in the aftermath. I'd hate to see someone set themselves up with certain expectations and take a fall. Glad you're learning the hot spots, but you need to see how things play out before mapping the entire city, otherwise you're just spinning your wheels. Just trying to save you a little time, my man. Anyway, you want to add a phrase to your translation book? "Cabeza abajo, culo arriba. " After that, just let the package do the work. Even though I can tell you and I roll differently, I hope it all works out for you.
Damn, brother, when is the last time you got laid? More power to you, ha, ha. Good that you're ambitious, but you need to understand something: things are not going to be exactly as they were in the aftermath. I'd hate to see someone set themselves up with certain expectations and take a fall. Glad you're learning the hot spots, but you need to see how things play out before mapping the entire city, otherwise you're just spinning your wheels. Just trying to save you a little time, my man. Anyway, you want to add a phrase to your translation book? "Cabeza abajo, culo arriba. " After that, just let the package do the work. Even though I can tell you and I roll differently, I hope it all works out for you.LOL. Thanks for the advice. Got laid last night actually I'm just a planner by nature and want to have options for when I go. Your phrase there, yep, already got that one.
JohnJones22
04-11-20, 05:00
For mongers? For the ones who have not lost their jobs, it will be off the chain. There will be less competition from men, the existing women will be desperate, the exchange rate will still be favorable, and many of the women who were not selling themselves will be seeing no choice but to do so. The only downside is the border with Venezuela probably will not be opened up for a while.
The best mongering activities in recent time may have been Buenos Aires in 2002 or so and Russia and Ukraine a few years before that. Colombia in 2020 could possibly rival those times.Greetings Mr Presley, big fan here. Would you be so kind as to tell us mongers who weren't mongering circa 2002 what Argentina / Russia / Ukraine were like at the time? I know you're referring to those countries going through economic turmoil, but did that translate to a noticeable difference in the quality of women you'd see selling the goods? Or was it business as usual at lower prices? And why do you think Colombia specifically (and not everywhere else in the world) will rival those times? Blessings.
Greetings Mr Presley, big fan here. Would you be so kind as to tell us mongers who weren't mongering circa 2002 what Argentina / Russia / Ukraine were like at the time? I know you're referring to those countries going through economic turmoil, but did that translate to a noticeable difference in the quality of women you'd see selling the goods? Or was it business as usual at lower prices? And why do you think Colombia specifically (and not everywhere else in the world) will rival those times? Blessings.Argentina has the most beautiful women in the world. My best mongering was in Buenos Aires up to 2010.
Argentina has the most beautiful women in the world. My best mongering was in Buenos Aires up to 2010.I have to admit, the most beautiful girl I've ever been with was in Buenos Aires, of course it was prior to the collapse of the once great monger scene there.
Incredibly, I met her in a small private apartment with a lineup of several other girls.
I couldn't believe when she walked out to present herself.
18 year old beauty.
Unfortunately the next day when I returned, the lady running the apartment laughed when I asked for her, saying a rich Argentine client whisked her away.
On the other hand, BA had some of the ugliest girls that I've seen as WG as well.
I agree on the Argentine top notch beauty, however, lots of uggs as well.
I can easily say, that in general, IMO, that Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil have better looking WG as a whole.
The Tall Man
04-11-20, 16:59
I have to admit, the most beautiful girl I've ever been with was in Buenos Aires, of course it was prior to the collapse of the once great monger scene there.
Incredibly, I met her in a small private apartment with a lineup of several other girls.
I couldn't believe when she walked out to present herself.
18 year old beauty.
Unfortunately the next day when I returned, the lady running the apartment laughed when I asked for her, saying a rich Argentine client whisked her away.
On the other hand, BA had some of the ugliest girls that I've seen as WG as well.
I agree on the Argentine top notch beauty, however, lots of uggs as well.
I can easily say, that in general, IMO, that Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil have better looking WG as a whole.Just my experience and yes I have mongered many places including Russia, Ukraine, Canada, Philippines, USA, DR, MX, South America, etc. My most beautiful woman that I ever experienced was in a termas in Rio back in 2000, such beauty I could almost just admire her than fuck her.
They say that beauty is hard to describe but you will know it when you see it and this is so true. My Rio girl has been etched into my mind forever. My second best is a 20 yo Czech girl back in about 1997 whom I met in a sex club, incredible, both of these girls and perhaps another one or two from Moscow could be as they say "so beautiful that I could wack off from just looking at their shadow".
The Tall man.
I agree with Balboa. IMO Brasil, Colombia, and Venezuela have the best-looking women in the World. If I had to pick one, I'd go with Venezuela. Though I haven't been there in 17 years, they are quite a few Venezuelans in my city in the States and they're generally hot.
If one is more into "white" Latinas, obviously they'd prefer Argentina (though when I visited, they were quite a few girls from other Latin countries plying their trade in Buenos Aries).
Elvis 2008
04-11-20, 20:26
Greetings Mr Presley, big fan here. Would you be so kind as to tell us mongers who weren't mongering circa 2002 what Argentina / Russia / Ukraine were like at the time? I know you're referring to those countries going through economic turmoil, but did that translate to a noticeable difference in the quality of women you'd see selling the goods? Or was it business as usual at lower prices? And why do you think Colombia specifically (and not everywhere else in the world) will rival those times? Blessings.I actually went to Russia when it was the old Soviet Union, and I was very young. I would go to clubs, and the women would literally grab me and my cock. I felt so special because we got to eat in the best restaurants, shop in special shops, and for whatever reason, the people were bat shit crazy over Polaroid cameras. I felt like fucking royalty.
I was too young to know that I could have fucked practically any woman I wanted in the USSR at the time, and there were some beauties. So when I was in the Ukraine and Russia a decade or so later, I was stunned to see the same thing. The crime was awful, but let me put it this way. Outside of a politicians' wife, every woman was for sale. A lot of these women were the Russian gymnast ballerina types, real blondes. The top women would not fuck you but the drop off between #1 and a former #1 who fucked up her knee or was #30 and a nobody is not that steep. So imagine how tight and flexible fucking a world class gymnast and ballerina was for $50 or a $100 for the night. People do not get oil was way down back then and people in those nations were literally starving.
Jamaica was a little like that in when I went to any random disco in the city, EVERY woman was for sale and some were beauties while others were not.
Argentina in 2002 was much the same way. People were not starving, but things were really bad. The government devalued the peso from one to the dollar to 3. Automatically, everyone had 1/3 as much money in their accounts as they did. You would go out have a steak, salad, and desert at a top of the line restaurant for like $5. They have shut them down now, but the club or boliches like Black's and I think it was Madaho's (I can't remember the exact name) were filled with women 100's of unbelievable beauties. My first choice did all I wanted bareback, BJ, anal, and a 2 hour massage for $100 for not just the whole night but the whole next day. 8's and 9's were availbale in apartments for $20 or $30. My girl was too nice, too hot to stay in that place, a bonafide 10 and later she married a rich Chilean. It was my first real introduction to Latin women, and their passion, moves, and energy were unlike any I had seen before. I came to realize that I loved women of Spanish origin.
If you get on the Medellin board, you will get a flavor of what is happening. I am not going to get into it because I have a strategy that is paying off in spades now for when I get down there, but I will say the desperation in Colombia now is not quite at the level of Argentina, Ukraine, or Russia, but the fear is there, and it is very real. A lot of women will do whatever takes to help out their loved ones if you know what it means.
Mr Enternational
04-11-20, 22:02
Argentina in 2002 was much the same way. People were not starving, but things were really bad. The government devalued the peso from one to the dollar to 3. Automatically, everyone had 1/3 as much money in their accounts as they did. You would go out have a steak, salad, and desert at a top of the line restaurant for like $5.I was in school in Buenos Aires in 2003. We had to visiit the Simmons mattress factory. I remember the manager that was showing us around said they went from making the equivalent of $800/month to 1/3 of that overnight the year before. We were boss ballin on those cheap ass steaks. You had to be careful of the prices though. One of my classmates had a leather skirt made. She thought it was 200 pesos. It ended up being $200!
Elvis 2008
04-13-20, 03:37
I remember the manager that was showing us around said they went from making the equivalent of $800/month to 1/3 of that overnight the year before. We were boss ballin on those cheap ass steaks.Because Argentina Private sucks, we are not getting the pricing in Argentina like we were. Argentina just defaulted on its debt again. So I look up hotels again. The most exclusive hotel is Alvear Palace, $285 a night. Who in Argentina has that kind of money? It was $100 when I was there before and 3 pesos to the dollar, and it is 65 pesos to the dollar now.
I looked at the Intercontinental, stayed there for $75 a night, and now it is $165.
I do not get it. I do not get why the hotels in Bogota are half of what BA and Lima are and the women in Colombia are available for so much less than Argentina and Peru. That is why I am always returning to Colombia and am thankful, but I do not get why Colombia is such a bargain.
John Gault
04-13-20, 13:57
Because Argentina Private sucks, we are not getting the pricing in Argentina like we were. Argentina just defaulted on its debt again. So I look up hotels again. The most exclusive hotel is Alvear Palace, $285 a night. Who in Argentina has that kind of money? It was $100 when I was there before and 3 pesos to the dollar, and it is 65 pesos to the dollar now.
I looked at the Intercontinental, stayed there for $75 a night, and now it is $165.
I do not get it. I do not get why the hotels in Bogota are half of what BA and Lima are and the women in Colombia are available for so much less than Argentina and Peru. That is why I am always returning to Colombia and am thankful, but I do not get why Colombia is such a bargain.I also could never understand why in a country like Nicaragua the hotel prices and the girls were so expensive compared to Colombia. It is the second poorest country in the hemisphere.
Same goes for Haiti which is even poorer.
I also could never understand why in a country like Nicaragua the hotel prices and the girls were so expensive compared to Colombia. It is the second poorest country in the hemisphere.
Same goes for Haiti which is even poorer.There's a surfeit of cheap places. What these countries don't have is mid-range hostelry. Without mass market tourism, they're not needed. Just cheap for the locals, and Intercontinental class for the expense accounters.
I also could never understand why in a country like Nicaragua the hotel prices and the girls were so expensive compared to Colombia. It is the second poorest country in the hemisphere.
Same goes for Haiti which is even poorer.In Nicaragua and Haiti, girls are so easily available to the local men that generally they don't pay for poontang. The high prices are exclusively for foreigners. There are so few hotels in those countries that prices per room are high. Perhaps someone could explain Argentina, prices were good for me when I went there which was until 2010.
In Nicaragua and Haiti, girls are so easily available to the local men that generally they don't pay for poontang. The high prices are exclusively for foreigners. There are so few hotels in those countries that prices per room are high. Perhaps someone could explain Argentina, prices were good for me when I went there which was until 2010.Mongers in Colombia get spoiled compared to many other countries. Hotels are cheap and plentiful near the action, and you can have any type of girl you want for peanuts. BA runs the gamut in hotel prices, but with places like Haiti, Nicaragua, and west Africa, it's best to ask a local. A few years back, I was in Nicaragua just before the uprising happened. I took a bus from Managua to Granada, and was dropped off in the evening without having a place to stay. I asked the first local walking by where to find a cheap place. He took me to a guy who was running a converted house with three rooms. The price was seventeen bucks a night. I happened to get lucky getting that cheap room, plus the guy I asked on the street turned into my unofficial guide for the cost of a bottle of rum. To top it off, I ended up hooking up with the maid who took care of the place. I'm glad too because the mongering is slim pickings in Nicaragua. With the high quality, many options, and low prices in Colombia, I scratched Central America off my list. Even CR is too expensive in comparison. Colombia is definitely the working man's mongering country of choice.
Anyone know if Chica fees are standard in Bogota? I'm planning on staying at the JW Marriott and I will bring a blazer or small coat for the girl to wear when they come back TLN, but wondering what the policy is there.
Anyone know if Chica fees are standard in Bogota? I'm planning on staying at the JW Marriott and I will bring a blazer or small coat for the girl to wear when they come back TLN, but wondering what the policy is there.You can choose from a ton of other places a fifth of the price a lot closer to the street action, and they won't give a damn about bringing girls back. It's a win / win. I always do ST rooms right there, but I asked at Oceania for the hell of it in case I found a great one about bringing girls back. The response was, "It's your room. " That's how you'll get more bang for the buck.
RonhinCruz
04-20-20, 04:56
Hello,
I am going to Peru in October and I have the possibility of a 6 and a half hour layover in Bogota. The only reason I would do it is to do a drive-by. My question is that even possible given customs, to and from airport etc. I hope to do an extended trip another time but this time it is Peru. Any advice is appreciated.
Elvis 2008
04-20-20, 05:50
Anyone know if Chica fees are standard in Bogota? I'm planning on staying at the JW Marriott and I will bring a blazer or small coat for the girl to wear when they come back TLN, but wondering what the policy is there.I stayed at a Marriott, not JW, but I had no problem bringing women in. I do not recall having to register any of them either. Maybe one time?
Mr Enternational
04-20-20, 05:53
I asked at Oceania for the hell of it in case I found a great one about bringing girls back. The response was, "It's your room. " That's how you'll get more bang for the buck.Yes it is your room, but they charge 54K for each person after the first one that you bring in during your stay. I have never seen any mongers or gringos there. It is mostly families and business people. I have never brought hookers there, only normal chicks and was charged. That is why I only stay there now if I plan on being with only 1 chick.
I stayed at a Marriott, not JW, but I had no problem bringing women in. I do not recall having to register any of them either. It was many years ago, but I had the same experience there as well. Just walked around the corner to the elevators to the left and went upstairs.
Yes it is your room, but they charge 54K for each person after the first one that you bring in during your stay. I have never seen any mongers or gringos there. It is mostly families and business people. I have never brought hookers there, only normal chicks and was charged. That is why I only stay there now if I plan on being with only 1 chick.It is mostly families, but it's a nice hotel with cheap prices and close by with a short walk down 24 to the action. Like I mentioned, I do the deed on site, so never worry about it, but who knows how the policies will change when things come back, which I firmly believe will be next year. With hospital personnel in quarantine and people hanging red bandanas outside their homes because they have no food, the situation is just going down the tubes.
LoveItHere69
04-20-20, 16:26
Oceania quoted girl entrance fee of 54 K when I asked 5 months ago.
Almost every high end hotel charges high end prices unless they have like a second behind the scenes entrance for you to use.
It is mostly families, but it's a nice hotel with cheap prices and close by with a short walk down 24 to the action. Exactly this; Place is very nice, price is low and it has restaurants on property. I'm looking to arrange a "girlfriend / s" for the week to help me take advantage of the property, massages, go to the pool, etc. She would go out with me, and then if she helps me score at other places it would increase the propina for each day. I'm in for a mix of pre-arranged, but also looking to go out to bang 2-3 girls per day between casas, clubs, etc.
HumanBeing1
04-21-20, 05:27
Hello,
I am going to Peru in October and I have the possibility of a 6 and a half hour layover in Bogota. The only reason I would do it is to do a drive-by. My question is that even possible given customs, to and from airport etc. I hope to do an extended trip another time but this time it is Peru. Any advice is appreciated.I wouldn't attempt that. From my times in Bogota 6 hours wouldn't be enough time to get out of customs, ride the 1 hour in traffic to wherever you're planning to have a quickie, then back to the airport. The process of getting through security at bog to depart can be very long. I spent about 2 hours once between arriving at the airport and getting through all security.
You're also adding a second country to the mix that may not let you in due to covid 19.
I wouldn't attempt that. From my times in Bogota 6 hours wouldn't be enough time to get out of customs, ride the 1 hour in traffic to wherever you're planning to have a quickie, then back to the airport. The process of getting through security at bog to depart can be very long. I spent about 2 hours once between arriving at the airport and getting through all security.
You're also adding a second country to the mix that may not let you in due to covid 19.I disagree. Depending on the time you land you can clear customs in as little as 30 minutes. If Santa Fe opens up you can be there in 20 minutes from airport. Another possibility is La Mezzanine in the north and depending on the hour you can be there in 45 minutes. Never have spent more then 1 hour getting to my gate. 6 hours should be plenty of time to bang 1 or 2 girls.
Argentina has the most beautiful women in the world. My best mongering was in Buenos Aires up to 2010.My two cents, I was in BA in 2011 for work, didn't know much about the apartments there, so just checked in the news paper and found one near my hotel. It was a really big apartment in an old but very well maintained building. I went up and sat down, a drink was offered. The "madam" was very friendly and kept on asking what kind of girls I would like so she could filter the presentation because there were more than 15 girls. I told her I want them young, slim and pretty. She laughed but then she came back with such a beauty. 18 years old, natural blonde, white skin, lovely smile, a bit cold but she was so pretty. I told her she is perfect and then the madam took me to a room, a big room with a big bed and dimmed lights. She offered BBBJ or condom BJ and I told her BBBJ. It was rare that this was offered because in Bogotá at the time it was rare for working girls to do BBBJ. Anyhow I paid, madam left and then comes the pretty blond dressed in a white transparent negligee with matching g-string panties. She was so incredible beautiful. We talked a bit, then we kissed, then we touched a bit and then she went for the condom to do BJ but I told her I had agreed with the madam on BBBJ, she said ok, and started a wonderful wet BBBJ. Then we had sex in several positions, she let me DATY and even touch her asshole a bit. She seemed new to the business although you never know. I asked if I could come on her boobs and she said ok, so condom out and I finished on her boobs and then she sucked me a bit more. Gave her a tip and off I went. Tried next day but she was not there and then my trip was over. Great experience. Can't remember the price exactly but it was around 40 USD.
John Gault
04-21-20, 20:26
I disagree. Depending on the time you land you can clear customs in as little as 30 minutes. If Santa Fe opens up you can be there in 20 minutes from airport. Another possibility is La Mezzanine in the north and depending on the hour you can be there in 45 minutes. Never have spent more then 1 hour getting to my gate. 6 hours should be plenty of time to bang 1 or 2 girls.Mr. Woodman glad to see your ok. I was worried about you as it seemed you had some symtoms when I saw you in bog in March.
As far as this guy wanting to hook up for the few hours he is in Bog well since he said he is going to Peru and this is a very short layover I will personally guarentee him there is pussy in Peru if he could wait a few hours.
Everything is still shut down but many restaurants are open for take out. Nothing like it's legendary past but there are a few streetie sweeties that use hotels that are clandestinely open. Police move along periodically. Everything is closed by 9 pm. During the day you can meet girls in the streets downtown many out walking around.
I think after things open a bit more there will be more street action at least. Also the casas probably will be a good possibility.
Everything is still shut down but many restaurants are open for take out. Nothing like it's legendary past but there are a few streetie sweeties that use hotels that are clandestinely open. Police move along periodically. Everything is closed by 9 pm. During the day you can meet girls in the streets downtown many out walking around.
I think after things open a bit more there will be more street action at least. Also the casas probably will be a good possibility.This is amazing news. I have a trip in October and I'm really looking forward to it; Glad to see it's slowly coming back to life there.
Elvis 2008
04-24-20, 22:43
I think after things open a bit more there will be more street action at least. Also the casas probably will be a good possibility.I am glad that you are okay too Woodman! I just looked at recent data showing Covid is just way more contagious than the flu and the death rate is about the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c04Rnvl9hxo&feature=em-uploademail.
Here is a White House Guy on the Covid task force telling another guy the death rate data on Covid is no worse than the flu. The line "You can take off the mask, Doug" should be instructive for anyone. By the way, the California data showing wide spread and previously unheard of levels of cases of Covid was also confirmed in New York with a study there.
Thing is that after scaring the shit out of everyone it is hard to unscare people especially when scientists have been deriding anyone saying this is "just the flu". It turns out it was just the flu but just a super contagious version of it. This virus attacks over 2 months versus the usual 6 or so. You will see like everything else in a week or two people agreeing with me but until then we have to wait for the painful process of people getting unscared.
Here is one guy out today saying the same thing I was yesterday: https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation.
What will be needed is for the USA To take the lead and admit the negatives of social and border isolation outweigh the supposed benefits.
Assuming I and others are right, what is your take on things there? The chicas I have been talking to are desperate, and I have been able to communicate with ones that I had been trying to for months. I think the chicas may be gun shy for a month or so, but my bet is that in a month or two, Bogota and Colombia will be off the fucking chain.
I am glad that you are okay too Woodman! I just looked at recent data showing Covid is just way more contagious than the flu and the death rate is about the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c04Rnvl9hxo&feature=em-uploademail.
Here is a White House Guy on the Covid task force telling another guy the death rate data on Covid is no worse than the flu. The line "You can take off the mask, Doug" should be instructive for anyone. By the way, the California data showing wide spread and previously unheard of levels of cases of Covid was also confirmed in New York with a study there.
Thing is that after scaring the shit out of everyone it is hard to unscare people especially when scientists have been deriding anyone saying this is "just the flu". It turns out it was just the flu but just a super contagious version of it. This virus attacks over 2 months versus the usual 6 or so. You will see like everything else in a week or two people agreeing with me but until then we have to wait for the painful process of people getting unscared.
Here is one guy out today saying the same thing I was yesterday: https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation.
What will be needed is for the USA To take the lead and admit the negatives of social and border isolation outweigh the supposed benefits.
Assuming I and others are right, what is your take on things there? The chicas I have been talking to are desperate, and I have been able to communicate with ones that I had been trying to for months. I think the chicas may be gun shy for a month or so, but my bet is that in a month or two, Bogota and Colombia will be off the fucking chain.You are profoundly misinformed. In two weeks from now you will be ashamed.
KangarooTed
04-25-20, 09:57
Straya borders to possibly open in 3 to 4 months.
The undetermined is will people still have to quarantine in and out of countries. Hopefully not？.
A quick temperature reading or a certificate of clear test on departure should be sufficient one would hope.
Overseas holiday.
Earlier this week, Professor Murphy said Australia's international borders would remain closed for at least another three to four months.
"The international situation at the moment is such that any relaxation of border measures would be very risky," he told a senate committee.
Kanga.
I am glad that you are okay too Woodman! I just looked at recent data showing Covid is just way more contagious than the flu and the death rate is about the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c04Rnvl9hxo&feature=em-uploademail.
Here is a White House Guy on the Covid task force telling another guy the death rate data on Covid is no worse than the flu. The line "You can take off the mask, Doug" should be instructive for anyone. By the way, the California data showing wide spread and previously unheard of levels of cases of Covid was also confirmed in New York with a study there.
Thing is that after scaring the shit out of everyone it is hard to unscare people especially when scientists have been deriding anyone saying this is "just the flu". It turns out it was just the flu but just a super contagious version of it. This virus attacks over 2 months versus the usual 6 or so. You will see like everything else in a week or two people agreeing with me but until then we have to wait for the painful process of people getting unscared.
Here is one guy out today saying the same thing I was yesterday: https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation..Elvis. Your "logic" is the same as "herd immunity" or the Swedish model.
I have tried to explain the Swedish model to them. Some get it and some don't. Sweden's approach was to implement suggested social distancing but to keep the economy going. Earlier this week Sweden had 2000 deaths in a population of about 10 MM. Sweden's population density is 60 people per square mile. BTW, Sweden has not reached herd density yet.
If we apply those same numbers to the USA, we have a population 33 times larger and our population density is almost 50% higher at 87 people per square mile. So the math is (2000 * 33) + 50% = 99,000. And the USA would still not have reached herd immunity.
In other words, if the US did what Sweden did, our death toll would be double what it is today. Is that acceptable? If you say yes, would you also say yes if everybody that you knew was included in that 100,000 figure?
Bbbj Cim Dude
04-25-20, 21:13
Hi guys,
Thanks for posting your experiences here to help out others participating in the craft. Got a couple of questions.
Since everyone's mongering style varies person to person, I'll just share what I prefer. In my last few trips to Bangkok, I prefer to just go in for a quick BBBJ CIM in one of the Thai BJ bars. It's quick, it's cheap, and there's nothing I like more in the world than having my dick sucked. Typically I'm looking at 10-15 minutes from the time I spot the girl until the deed is done and I'm typically out 800-1000 THB ($28-$33 USD).
After RTFF's, Santa Fe is really drawing me in. As far as I can tell, 30,000 to 50,000 COP for a 30 min session seemed to be the going rate. I'm assuming another 10,000 COP for the short-time hotel. Does this sound correct so far? I'm assuming this is "todo" with "sin ropa. " As far as extras, specifically BBBJ CIM, what am I looking at cost-wise? Or, is that generally the case. Also, do most of the girls perform DFK as part of their services generally, or is this too an extra?
Currency, recommendations on how to change currency? What do you guys usually do? In Thailand, I typically just take bank notes with me and exchange at Vasu, Super Rich (or TT in Pattaya). In Costa Rica, I just used the ATM at the airport.
I can't wait for this pandemic to be over so I can start delivering my loads to hungry mouths again. BTW, if anyone needs a wingman, I'm up for either Bogota or Medellin. Once we can travel again, I can go anytime.
KangarooTed
04-25-20, 23:18
People always complaining about limited food options or plain boring food in Bogota. I never found that to be the case.
Just saw this article in the newspaper. I have eaten at some of these bakeries but didn't know about the Pacific Seafood restuarant, or the cheese specialties:
"Parkway could also be dubbed "Bakery Row" given the many family-run establishments that cater to the sweet tooth of Bogotanos. Today, there is no shortage of pizzerias to choose from. Pastelera Rommanoti on the corner of Cra 28 with Calle 37 is where you'll find bread pilgrims hunched over hot chocolate and sugar-glazed rolls. The more austere Pastelera Toledo (Calle 45 with Cra 24) refers to itself as a "wedding bakery" with stands decked with jarring colorful cakes.
The Parkway / Palermo corridor caters to students from Universidad Nacional. And many others, especially those food-dedicated, endure with a no-frills take on gastronomy, such as the Pacific seafood restaurant Pescadera the'Apolonia (Cra 24 No. 49 A-0). Here, you can enjoy a heaping platter of fried fish with coconut rice and bowl of fish stew sancocho on the side. Across Carrera 24 from the street front of this restaurant is another popular restaurant Al Gratin, which specializes in cheese dishes, including lasagna, and offers a daily special for $15,000 pesos."
I pass this location when I walk from Santa Fe to Chapinero and it's close to the Body Care gym I go to on Calle 45.
The fish stew looks like a winner!
Kanga.
KangarooTed
04-26-20, 05:22
If we apply those same numbers to the USA, ?Or, even better if we don't.
Why not post this info in the USA thread where it may be of interest to those of you from the USA.
What's happening or hypothetically may happen in the US.
Really.
Kanga.
HumanBeing1
04-26-20, 07:16
Elvis. Your "logic" is the same as "herd immunity" or the Swedish model.
I have tried to explain the Swedish model to them. Some get it and some don't. Sweden's approach was to implement suggested social distancing but to keep the economy going. Earlier this week Sweden had 2000 deaths in a population of about 10 MM. Sweden's population density is 60 people per square mile. BTW, Sweden has not reached herd density yet.
If we apply those same numbers to the USA, we have a population 33 times larger and our population density is almost 50% higher at 87 people per square mile. So the math is (2000 * 33) + 50% = 99,000. And the USA would still not have reached herd immunity.
In other words, if the US did what Sweden did, our death toll would be double what it is today. Is that acceptable? If you say yes, would you also say yes if everybody that you knew was included in that 100,000 figure?This virus is obviously much more than a flu. We've take unprescidented measures to limit this and it's still killed more than the flu. It's bad.
Still, I prefer the Sweden model. Yes I think go keep our normal way of life and normal economy it would be worth it. 88% of the people hospitalized in NY from this had 2 preexisting conditions. These are people who were already unhealthy.
The situation is so odd here, poor Venezuelans are cooking with fires on the sidewalk. Santa Fe area is road blocked to traffic with dozens of cops just hanging out. You can walk into Santa Fe and there are girls during day and the cops don't say a thing to me, girls day / boys day does not seem to be enforced. I ran into one of my favorite barely legal girls banged her twice. About an hour after dark the cops close everything.
John Gault
04-26-20, 16:39
This virus is obviously much more than a flu. We've take unprescidented measures to limit this and it's still killed more than the flu. It's bad.
Still, I prefer the Sweden model. Yes I think go keep our normal way of life and normal economy it would be worth it. 88% of the people hospitalized in NY from this had 2 preexisting conditions. These are people who were already unhealthy.Your resistance level I think is the key to this whole flu business. For the last few years many people have died from the regular flu. I have been around many people who caught the flu but I did not. Now this new virus is way more easy to pass from person to person. That said if a person is careful on his lifestyle then he has a way better chance to avoid being sick. I'm not just talking about masks. I'm referring to eating right, getting exercise, and getting enough sleep.
I wonder when they put out these numbers of deaths if they are counting the old flu in with this new one. If so then it is not as bad as the numbers tell us.
I wonder when they put out these numbers of deaths if they are counting the old flu in with this new one. If so then it is not as bad as the numbers tell us.This is an interesting question. Recent antibody studies in California and New York suggest 30-80 times as many people reported as having had COVID-19 have already been exposed to the virus (10-25% of the population). This, alone, lowers the mortality rate from 2-4% to less than 1%, perhaps less than 0. 5%. The flu has a mortality rate of 0. 1% if not a bit lower.
But you asked about the accuracy of the count, and there is some monkey business going on in that regard. A death is being counted as a COVID death if the person died after being exposed to the virus. Even if the person died in a car accident. So, the virus death count is people who died with the virus, not necessarily because of the virus.
Stage 4 cancer patients often finally succumb to pneumonia, but their death is generally attributed to the cancer, and the pneumonia may be mentioned as a contributing factor. If that same patient gets this virus, the death is listed as a COVID death. This is one reason why the rates of death for other causes is down since this pandemic started.
Finally, deaths prior to the pandemic are being reviewed, and if there is some evidence that they may have had COVID-19, they are being added to the death tolls. So, if they died from the flu, they may be counted as a COVID-19 death since symptoms are so similar.
I have no special medical knowledge, or anything, but I suspect this virus will ultimately have a death rate less than 0.4%. Ultimately, I believe 80% of us will be exposed, and some won't even know it. Our reaction to shutting down a very large segment of the economy will also have a cost, both economic and psychological. I fear we are obsessed with saving lives (in the short term) and not realizing the true cost of extended shutdowns.
Elvis 2008
04-27-20, 00:38
Elvis. Your "logic" is the same as "herd immunity" or the Swedish model.
I have tried to explain the Swedish model to them. Some get it and some don't. Sweden's approach was to implement suggested social distancing but to keep the economy going. Earlier this week Sweden had 2000 deaths in a population of about 10 MM. Sweden's population density is 60 people per square mile. BTW, Sweden has not reached herd density yet.
If we apply those same numbers to the USA, we have a population 33 times larger and our population density is almost 50% higher at 87 people per square mile. So the math is (2000 * 33) + 50% = 99,000. And the USA would still not have reached herd immunity.
In other words, if the US did what Sweden did, our death toll would be double what it is today. Is that acceptable? If you say yes, would you also say yes if everybody that you knew was included in that 100,000 figure?PVM, your numbers are based on opinions not concrete facts. The number of deaths is an opinion not a fact. The testing for Covid is 70% sensitive. WHO said 3. 5% mortality. Fauci said 1%. California says 0. 1 to 0. 3%. I do not care now. I wanted to talk about women and sex.
From my POV, the new data is going to be used to justify opening things up. You can disagree but it is not up to you or me. What I see happening is the USA Opens up and other countries follow our lead. I just wanted to know from Woodman how things are in Bogota because I think things are going to open up pretty quick. Thanks Woodman for the on the ground report. Stay safe!
But you asked about the accuracy of the count, and there is some monkey business going on in that regard. A death is being counted as a COVID death if the person died after being exposed to the virus. Even if the person died in a car accident. So, the virus death count is people who died with the virus, not necessarily because of the virus.
Stage 4 cancer patients often finally succumb to pneumonia, but their death is generally attributed to the cancer, and the pneumonia may be mentioned as a contributing factor. If that same patient gets this virus, the death is listed as a COVID death. This is one reason why the rates of death for other causes is down since this pandemic started.
A very interesting take, and spot on in my opinion.
A very interesting take, and spot on in my opinion.If someone has a fatal stroke while driving, resulting in a serious accident, unless an autopsy is performed, cause of death: vehicle accident. Prior to classification and basic understanding of the novel coronavirus, deaths from pneumonia were ruled death from pneumonia. However, there was a spike in pneumonia deaths prior to the first known coronavirus deaths in the US. Several states are now reviewing deaths in January and February, because we now know the disease was spreading here before first suspected. Indiana has estimated this will add around 100 deaths. Other more populated states could see significantly more deaths.
Until recently it wasn't known that the virus causes other forms of death, including pulmonary embolism, stroke, heart failure among others. That also will likely add to the number.
Many states, my own included are not counting cases inside jails and prisons and are not counting nursing home deaths. In my county the actual deaths are 18% higher than what the state has recorded because 2 patients died before they could be transferred from the nursing home to the hospital.
The "they were near death anyway" or "they had an underlying condition" argument is brainless. If a person is lying in the street, having fallen Fri a 6th floor balcony, literally seconds away from death, and I shoot them in the head, do I go free? Or is it classified as murder? If a person with a few weeks left to live, dying from incurable, inoperable cancer, slips and falls and breaks their neck, is it ruled a cancer death?
Don't worry. They're going to force things to open back up in just a few weeks, only days in some places. And around the first of June we'll know whether or not that was the right thing to do.
Elvis 2008
04-29-20, 18:55
Finally, deaths prior to the pandemic are being reviewed, and if there is some evidence that they may have had COVID-19, they are being added to the death tolls. So, if they died from the flu, they may be counted as a COVID-19 death since symptoms are so similar.
I have no special medical knowledge, or anything, but I suspect this virus will ultimately have a death rate less than 0.4%. Ultimately, I believe 80% of us will be exposed, and some won't even know it. Our reaction to shutting down a very large segment of the economy will also have a cost, both economic and psychological. I fear we are obsessed with saving lives (in the short term) and not realizing the true cost of extended shutdowns.You are onto something JR. See the link, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/.
"Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for if they're Medicare typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000. ".
See this link: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/.
In an interview with FactCheck. Org, however, Jensen said he did not think that hospitals were intentionally misclassifying cases for financial reasons.
So the same hospitals that charge $500 for an Aspirin and a $1000 for a stuffed Teddy bear would never, ever intentionally pressure doctors to say Covid for $39,000? LOL.
This factcheck. Org really does not seem to be getting any facts right IMO.
I don't know if the counts on Covid are high or low, but they sure as hell are far from 100% accurate, and that is a huge problem when it comes to making decisions about what to do in the future.
Just came back, pretty much same police state over there. Police roust the girls every so often and move them down the road. So you have to find a hottie and bang her before the cops roust.
There were a about 20-30 girls scattered in the various corners.
I banged 2 girls both girls that were kinda girl friendish knew my deal what I wanted. Both were young 20's SuperCuties. 1 white Colombian and a light skinned Venezuelan.
Pulled there hair while gagging them BBBJ. Banged them hard made them feel good, both having fun. Paid like $8-$10.
I will have one over to my place soon for 2 hour session. My target price to pay is about $35. Or $150,000 pesos or maybe less like $25.
KangarooTed
05-11-20, 12:08
News today of Avianca filing for bankruptcy.
Not a total surprise. KPMG has "substantial doubts" about the carrier's ability to exist a year from now.
My routes always had a couple of Avianca flights, it was convenient and economic. Not sure what the alternative is? Hopefully Qantas and Latam and the others can find one.
Kanga.
News today of Avianca filing for bankruptcy.
Not a total surprise. KPMG has "substantial doubts" about the carrier's ability to exist a year from now.
My routes always had a couple of Avianca flights, it was convenient and economic. Not sure what the alternative is? Hopefully Qantas and Latam and the others can find one.
Kanga.Going to be very interesting to see which ones stay alive, which ones start to code share with bigger carriers and which ones just belly up and take people's money and dissolve as RyanAir did. The good news though is that while it will be expensive for a while, competitors will come back, the nature of the free market economy.
Elvis 2008
05-14-20, 06:56
News today of Avianca filing for bankruptcy.
Not a total surprise. KPMG has "substantial doubts" about the carrier's ability to exist a year from now.
My routes always had a couple of Avianca flights, it was convenient and economic. Not sure what the alternative is? Hopefully Qantas and Latam and the others can find one.
Kanga.Bankruptcy is just a means to erase debt. American Airlines declared bankruptcy and had $4 billion in cash. The planes are there. The debtors will take them over and sell them to a different airline or Avianca will come back restructured and leaner and meaner. Every major USA Legacy carrier has declared bankruptcy. The small budget ones like Jetblue, Spirit, and Southwest (not much of a budget airline anymore) have not gone broke. From a passenger's point of view, unless you had tickets with Avianca or other perks, it is pretty much a non-event.
Just came back, pretty much same police state over there. Police roust the girls every so often and move them down the road. So you have to find a hottie and bang her before the cops roust.
There were a about 20-30 girls scattered in the various corners.
I banged 2 girls both girls that were kinda girl friendish knew my deal what I wanted. Both were young 20's SuperCuties. 1 white Colombian and a light skinned Venezuelan.
Pulled there hair while gagging them BBBJ. Banged them hard made them feel good, both having fun. Paid like $8-$10.
I will have one over to my place soon for 2 hour session. My target price to pay is about $35. Or $150,000 pesos or maybe less like $25.When you say a 2-hour session, are you referring to the street girl? I check online websites and most of them usually USD $70 per hour.
Bankruptcy is just a means to erase debt. American Airlines declared bankruptcy and had $4 billion in cash. The planes are there. The debtors will take them over and sell them to a different airline or Avianca will come back restructured and leaner and meaner. Every major USA Legacy carrier has declared bankruptcy. The small budget ones like Jetblue, Spirit, and Southwest (not much of a budget airline anymore) have not gone broke. From a passenger's point of view, unless you had tickets with Avianca or other perks, it is pretty much a non-event.My feeling about the Avianca bankruptcy is that the Colombian government will bail them out. Some way or another. This is the country's main airline, they fly routes not only in Colombia but all over central and So. America. There's too much money involved to let them go under. And they bring in too much money to the country as well.
When you say a 2-hour session, are you referring to the street girl? I check online websites and most of them usually USD $70 per hour.At the current exchange rate $70 hour is a lot more than you'll pay for most options.
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