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Mr Enternational
06-12-24, 15:18
No one I know from Colombia has ever brought up the topic of racism, thought I'm sure to some extent it exist in virtually every country around the world.Short answer is I just asked one of my chicks in Santa Marta and she said, "I have not seen it. You know Colombia. How have you felt here?
I have known her over 10 years (longer but actually do not know how many exactly). Only 2 months ago I realized she is Black. It was her mom's birthday and she sent me pictures of her mom and dad at the party. I had seen pictures of her mom before but never her dad. He is a Black guy.
(Side note: I know many people on this board are caught up on age. Her mom is older than her dad. Her mom turned 73 and her dad is 71. Back in January I had an Uber tour guide in the Boyacá area who was 65 and his wife was in her 80's. He was 30 when they got married.).
Then last month there was some kind of Africa day or week or whatever. She is an elementary school teacher and she sent me some pictures of her and some the female students who were obviously of African heritage dressed up in African garb. Then she sent me a picture of her in her house in front of a print or painting of a lady of African heritage wearing African garb. We had never talked about anything like this before. I guess we don't really care about that kind of stuff.
As you said, nobody brings up racism and I have been going to Colombia for 19 years. The only time I have heard the word out of someone's mouth is my ex-girlfriend who is from Cartagena, but lives in Bogota. She once described herself to me as being White as snow. Her second child is with a Black guy. She said she does not like her dad because he is racist. Well she loves her dad, but she does not like that he is racist.
I am in Peru now with my girl from Venezuela. Last night we came in from watching Planet of the Apes and I asked her to tell me about racism in her country. She started off by saying the Haitians bla, bla. I cut her off and said no. Tell me about racism between Venezuelans. Then she started talking about different states not liking each other. Then I said no not that either. Then she started with gays bla. I said nooo. Tell me about racism having to do with people's color. She said oh we don't have any of that shit. People are all mixed up and people's family and friends are all mixed up, so what would be the point? How would you decide who to be racist against?
I said yes but Brazil is the same way, yet they have racism. She thinks that is more of a regional thing though. As I have said before, the racism is Brazil is mostly institutionalized like when it comes to getting a job and shit, but it doesn't really exist on a social level.
Elvis was saying before that he had asked people from Venezuela and Colombia about racism. They said it was not a thing, but they are White. To that point with my examples above, there seems to just not be enough racist people in Colombia and Venezuela for it to make a difference or for anybody of whatever heritage to even give it a thought, thereby making it almost nonexistent.
My girl started her period last night right before we got to the movies. When we got back to the apartment I told her to open her mouth to have a look. I told her that I wanted to make sure there was no blood in there. She didn't give it a thought. We just woke up and she was telling me about her stomach hurting. I said well as long as your mouth is not hurting. She said yeah what was that last night you were saying about blood in my mouth? I said because this dick is still going to need to be sucked! She said loco! She is in the bathroom now laughing about that shit.
...nobody brings up racism and I have been going to Colombia for 19 years. The only time I have heard the word out of someone's mouth is my ex-girlfriend who is from Cartagena, but lives in Bogota. She once described herself to me as being White as snow.My parents adopted an Asian girl when I was young, so I can claim to come from an interracial family. Have been going to mostly Cali, Colombia since 1990, then mostly Medellin and Cartagena since 2002. My 20-year woman in relationship from Mde would not date black guys. But most guys from the US and other English-speaking countries are simply looking for an attractive girl for sex and do not care about reproducing children of one race or another, nor about living with or marrying the women they have sex with, it's only a short sex vacation.
Been in the Dominican Republic since 1995 when I worked there, and they are the most racist, everyone wants to have lighter skinned children. Probably from Haiti being on their border.
Elvis 2008
06-12-24, 20:05
Elvis was saying before that he had asked people from Venezuela and Colombia about racism. They said it was not a thing, but they are White. To that point with my examples above, there seems to just not be enough racist people in Colombia and Venezuela for it to make a difference or for anybody of whatever heritage to even give it a thought, thereby making it almost nonexistent.I like the story. It is funny this came up after Colombia kicked the USA's ass in soccer in a friendly 5 to 1. My gal's family were making fun of me and the USA, and I joked and said they were racist. They said they were not and my gal denied their being any racism as any PC Colombian would do. Her daughter told me a different story. Apparently, some of her friend's parents were making fun of the poorer less well kept black people. I do not think this has anything to do with American blacks who travel and are spending money but with the locals. So yeah, it seems racism is there. It is just hidden and sounds like it is more among the old than the young, but it is there.
Short answer is I just asked one of my chicks in Santa Marta and she said, "I have not seen it. You know Colombia. How have you felt here?
I have known her over 10 years (longer but actually do not know how many exactly). Only 2 months ago I realized she is Black. It was her mom's birthday and she sent me pictures of her mom and dad at the party. I had seen pictures of her mom before but never her dad. He is a Black guy.
------This whole racism stuff mostly comes from developed countries where they have solved all the major environmental problems or health problems, so they have to create new problems to serve as distraction to everyday people.
These countries that arent as developed have way bigger problems to worry about than skin color. They are more Nationalist first, then region, the Strata. My girl in Colombia is from the coast but looks white, her mom is black like my completion, when we go to Medellin and she's not next to me she's treated normal until she speaks and they hear her dialect, all of a sudden she's treated differently because she's Castano, and not a Paisa, but I'm treated well because they see me as American, not Black American, or African American, just American. Then when I come next to her and the realize were together, they treat her accordingly with respect because she's with an American. It gets even funnier when I speak with my original accent, and they think I'm from Jamaica but when I pronounce certain words in English they think I'm from Inglaterra. JAJAJA.
Some people minds don't adapt to certain things well when they grow up in an environment that conditioned them to be and think a certain way as they believe the whole world thinks and is the same way they were taught.
I'm guessing many people who go to Cartagena don't know what Cartegena was back in the 1800's and never bothered to do a cultural day tour because all they focused on is a Clock tower, 3 clubs, and a beach.
First, just cause some of us travel for pussy, doesn't mean we should disrespect women and treat them like disposable sex objects. Isn't that the point? They are our disposable sex objects.
Mr Enternational
06-16-24, 18:51
Isn't that the point? They are our disposable sex objects.How would they treat you if they didn't need the money? Hell, how do some of them still treat you even though you are giving them money? Is there honor among thieves?
I would say each case is different. You can not treat every hooker like something really went wrong in their life and they are only doing this to buy medicine for a sick family member. You also can not treat every hooker like they have tried to drug you and steal your shit. Proceed with caution.
Aristhotle
06-17-24, 03:28
My Colombian friend told me hot black or mulata girls can be found in Cartagena. Are there plenty of hot black or mulata working girls in Cartagena? No street walkers or lower end dirty cheap options please. I am trying to find the higher end of the black or mulata girls market. What club or casa would I be more likely to find this?
My Colombian friend told me hot black or mulata girls can be found in Cartagena. Are there plenty of hot black or mulata working girls in Cartagena? No street walkers or lower end dirty cheap options please. I am trying to find the higher end of the black or mulata girls market. What club or casa would I be more likely to find this?Your colombian friend TOLD you but did they SHOW you? Big difference. If I were you, I would go back to that friend and tell them to show you these girls and make your own opinion if they were the "hot black or mulata" girls you are looking for.
Are the dark sking girls there? Yes I know plenty, the problem is (for me, of the ones I know) the older they got the more they changed their bodies to attract a certain demographic. Now at the age of 23 -28 many of them are walking around looking like they are wearing a diaper full of shit. If that's how you like them then hop in a cab and go out to the hood (travel at your own risk) to the club Androgeno. If you want a better chance of them before they started making enhancements, try Tinder and cut the age off at around 26.
Aristhotle
06-17-24, 05:07
Are the dark sking girls there? Yes I know plenty, the problem is (for me, of the ones I know) the older they got the more they changed their bodies to attract a certain demographic. Now at the age of 23 -28 many of them are walking around looking like they are wearing a diaper full of shit. If that's how you like them then hop in a cab and go out to the hood (travel at your own risk) to the club Androgeno.From what I see that club is a regular discoteca, not a strip club or higher end brothel. I speak perfect spanish so I can get around. But I am looking for working girls, not girls who aren't prostitutes. Attractive Colombian girls for the most part (who aren't working as prostitutes) don't do hookup culture. Their hearts and vaginas are nationalist for the most part, LOL.
I might try tinder but I am more looking for a strip club, casa, or a brothel on the higher-medium to higher end where these black girls might be around.
Whether that means they have some surgeries or are natural, I don't care. Where are the better looking black working girls at in Cartagena?
Aristhotle
06-17-24, 05:19
From what I see that club is a regular discoteca, not a strip club or higher end brothel.Ok. Just saw more videos on Androgeno. I see some working girls are in there but the place is not officially a brothel. But the girls look averages and driving there at night is dangerous. It looks like street walkers are going there. Where else are there prostitute black girls in Cartagena? Not street walkers.
MongerHunger
06-17-24, 06:18
My Colombian friend told me hot black or mulata girls can be found in Cartagena. Are there plenty of hot black or mulata working girls in Cartagena? No street walkers or lower end dirty cheap options please. I am trying to find the higher end of the black or mulata girls market. What club or casa would I be more likely to find this?If that's what you want then you should go to Cali, Colombia. In my my experience, the black, mulatto and mixed chicas in Cali got Cartagena beat all day long!
HumpyDumpty11
06-17-24, 13:28
From what I see that club is a regular discoteca, not a strip club or higher end brothel. I speak perfect spanish so I can get around. But I am looking for working girls, not girls who aren't prostitutes. Attractive Colombian girls for the most part (who aren't working as prostitutes) don't do hookup culture. Their hearts and vaginas are nationalist for the most part, LOL.
I might try tinder but I am more looking for a strip club, casa, or a brothel on the higher-medium to higher end where these black girls might be around.
Whether that means they have some surgeries or are natural, I don't care. Where are the better looking black working girls at in Cartagena?To be honest, you might have a better chance of finding what you are looking for in Cali. I heard there are more darker skin, pretty girls there. Can't say if they are regular girls or pros, but that city has an abundance of darker skinned girls.
And to honest, you have no idea if a girl is regular or selling pussy unless you are there living with her. And even that you may not even know. I have met the regulars who claim to be good and they are not. They are selling ass. The mindset is if he is ain't there to see it, especially if he is not in the country, deny deny deny that you are selling ass. In my opinion, I'the rather think that every girl is selling ass one way or another, that way there is no let downs when you really find out she is.
WanderingMan
06-18-24, 13:42
Most of the AirBnB options in the walled seem to prohibit visitors, particularly overnight visitors. I travel with a friend and we encountered this prohibition from landlords when in Havana, Cuba. Do any of you know of AirBnB units inside the wall that allow guests? A rather well-documented YouTube video offered quite a bit of insight into Cartagena. In the video, the host recommended renting AirBnB units with security guards at the door; however, the reviews on AirBnB seem to indicate security guards at the door prohibit visitors. Overnight visitors won't be an issue.
The videos on Caragena make it appear as though this is overwhelmingly a young person's game, so perhaps another city is better for us. Thanks for any insights.
Most of the AirBnB options in the walled seem to prohibit visitors, particularly overnight visitors. I travel with a friend and we encountered this prohibition from landlords when in Havana, Cuba. Do any of you know of AirBnB units inside the wall that allow guests? A rather well-documented YouTube video offered quite a bit of insight into Cartagena. In the video, the host recommended renting AirBnB units with security guards at the door; however, the reviews on AirBnB seem to indicate security guards at the door prohibit visitors. Overnight visitors won't be an issue.
The videos on Caragena make it appear as though this is overwhelmingly a young person's game, so perhaps another city is better for us. Thanks for any insights.I knew plenty but I opened my mouth trying to help others and the wrong people got the information and fucked it all up by causing problems. Arguing with girls not wanting to pay them, police coming to the property, breaking things, playing loud music past 10 PM, etc. Everything in the San Diego area is done for new comers (area by La Serrezuela shopping mall). Now the rules changed for new comers, not for me though.
Unfortunately you will have to do the leg work. Contact the hosts and ask questions to find out if it's guest friendly.
Get a hotel that charges a fee per guest.
Use short stay hotels.
As al alternative, if the location only have security at night, then do your chica activities in the day time when they are not there.
Mr Enternational
06-19-24, 19:58
I knew plenty but I opened my mouth trying to help others and the wrong people got the information and fucked it all up by causing problems.We all learn the hard way on this site. Can't share everything.
Aristhotle
06-20-24, 06:21
If that's what you want then you should go to Cali, Colombia. In my my experience, the black, mulatto and mixed chicas in Cali got Cartagena beat all day long!It's looking like that is the play. Thank you.
Most of the AirBnB options in the walled seem to prohibit visitors, particularly overnight visitors. I travel with a friend and we encountered this prohibition from landlords when in Havana, Cuba. Do any of you know of AirBnB units inside the wall that allow guests? A rather well-documented YouTube video offered quite a bit of insight into Cartagena. In the video, the host recommended renting AirBnB units with security guards at the door; however, the reviews on AirBnB seem to indicate security guards at the door prohibit visitors. Overnight visitors won't be an issue.
The videos on Caragena make it appear as though this is overwhelmingly a young person's game, so perhaps another city is better for us. Thanks for any insights.Ethnic Thematic was great for me, basically an Airbnb in practice even though it's dormitory style in how close you are to other rooms. But it's self check in, and the room quality was fair for price. I was paying $40 ish a night, and brought back 4 girls a day with zero issue. No security desk, but there is a service desk that you don't even pass if you have an entry way room. Plus it's keyboard access with cameras.
We all learn the hard way on this site. Can't share everything.I definitely learned and understand why gatekeeping information is important. Allot of newcomers won't be able to experience the freedom I had with properties due to a selective few messing it up for everyone, the same way I missed out on the experience it back in the early 2000's with Boca Chica and Sosua.
What's even more funny is that certain behaviors I was reporting on seeing 2-3 years ago and people were sweeping it under the rug and dismissing it are now reporting seeing the same exact things jajaja.
Examples:
When the guy left my chicas friend with the bill http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2752187&viewfull=1#post2752187 Now last week I saw on youtube another guy tried to walk out on a bill in Medellin and got beat up in Parque Llares (Some saying he was over charged, others saying he didn't have money).
When I spoke about controlling our own image as travelers as it effects the next person http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2827102&viewfull=1#post2827102 . Now it snowballed into "go home gringo" signs and propaganda in Medellin making people think everyone is going to Colombia for minors.
When I talked about flying girls out and it was dismissed http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2850551&viewfull=1#post2850551 Now they doing the same thing, looks like Mexico is the poor mans fly out option and too boring and as all the girls been there to Isla Mujers. Now they want trans-Atlantic flights so they can flex on social media so its all Europe going forward.
And the one that have me laughing the most was when I said how Zoom was messing up Pattaya by bring that type of ATL / Sosua behavior over there. Now after he created the climate, hes complaining about the weather because he didn't attract business minded people who want to build, he attracted the ones who should have never been allowed to step foot outside their city.
Mr Enternational
06-20-24, 21:53
What's even more funny is that certain behaviors I was reporting on seeing 2-3 years ago and people were sweeping it under the rug and dismissing it are now reporting seeing the same exact things jajaja.
When I talked about flying girls out and it was dismissed http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2850551&viewfull=1#post2850551 Now they doing the same thing, looks like Mexico is the poor mans fly out option and too boring and as all the girls been there to Isla Mujers. Now they want trans-Atlantic flights so they can flex on social media so its all Europe going forward.This really puts to shame guys that want a nice hotel room for the hookers to enjoy. I say mf they have probably been to that hotel 300 times and are on a name basis with all the staff. You are showing them nothing new or exciting. From what you say, looks like those guys better up the ante to flying them to Europe if they are trying to impress them.
And the one that have me laughing the most was when I said how Zoom was messing up Pattaya by bring that type of ATL / Sosua behavior over there. Now after he created the climate, hes complaining about the weather because he didn't attract business minded people who want to build, he attracted the ones who should have never been allowed to step foot outside their city.Guess he shit the bed on that one. He should have learned more of the culture before inviting people to do something that he had not done himself anyway. In Thailand there is a saying: "If you want to make a small fortune in Thailand, then start with a large one. ".
I have seen them come and seen them go. But like I said before, everyone has to learn on their own. My boy bought some dresses on Amazon and brought them over to sell to chicks for $20. He sold not 1. I said don't see see these motorbike stores riding around selling dresses for $3? What makes you think you can sell one for $20? These people are not rich.
Matter of fact, whenever I think about buying something from Amazon I check the site we buy stuff from in Thailand (Lazada), because it is usually the exact same thing at one-third the price. Save those business ideas for where you come from. When you travel, just do it to enjoy yourself.
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PerkinWarbeck
06-27-24, 18:59
Guys, please be safe in Cartagena. A bad respiratory virus has been tearing through the city over the past month. I had it with a bad fever for a few weeks.
Is Mery Salence is still in rental business? I rented from her in the past too, just can't recall what has been since.I was wondering the same thing, last I rented from her was 2018 and she wasn't in the best of health. She was looking quite frail. I recently sent her an email but did not receive a reply. I am wondering if she is still alive. Does anyone have any info on that?
I was wondering the same thing, last I rented from her was 2018 and she wasn't in the best of health. She was looking quite frail. I recently sent her an email but did not receive a reply. I am wondering if she is still alive. Does anyone have any info on that?See your message box.
Manofpower26
07-13-24, 21:27
Hi everyone,
I'll be visiting Cartagena. Are there any agencies or any tips picking women up? Places to go would be great. Thank you for reading!
Breakline10
07-15-24, 13:31
Is Mery Salence is still in rental business? I rented from her in the past too, just can't recall what has been since.Mery died 1 or 2 years ago.
Mery died 1 or 2 years ago.Well that explains why she has not responded. She was my goto rental agent, used her for years, never an issue. I will miss her.
Send a message / email to Juan Ventura as he would know, and I am sure would not mind responding to your question.Anyone have his email address?
Anyone have his email address?ittscol@hotmail.com ,
Breakline10
07-20-24, 21:24
Mery died 1 or 2 years ago.Her husband lives at Mirador del Laguito, if you want to meet and talk.
I rented via Airbnb last February.
Be aware also Mirador del Laguito changed their guest policy!
I was really disappointed. I know the place for over 10 years.
With all the clubs in the center closed, I feel it is not worth to visit Carta anylonger.
The good old days are gone, I miss Electra, etc.
Cartagena lost its "spice".
Running around the streets at night to find girls is ridiculous.
Cartagena wants Disney an Cruise tourism. .
Mr Enternational
07-25-24, 17:46
Got here yesterday. 15,000 Indriver from the airport to Oz Luxury in Laguito where I am staying. My girl that lives here brought her daughter and we went to the beach. You can not walk 5 feet around this place without somebody trying to sell you something or wanting money from you. The kid wanted to go to McDonald's so we took her there. While we were ordering on the computer some lady comes up to me and said I am hungry too. Can you buy me something. I said bich please. Well I did not really say that. I just shook my head no.
My twin cousins are celebrating their birthday. There are 7 of us in the group. I do not miss traveling with a bunch of people. I am used to doing what I want when I want. It takes 5 minutes for us to just cross the street because people's attention is focused on different things. Two guys are getting numbers from hookers, while one guy is trying to buy a beer, another guy is at a food cart, somebody else is looking at souvenirs, and someone else is listening to a tout trying to rip them off.
We were at the clock tower last night and a lady named Shirley was actually giving the real price of the all day island boat tour with lunch included. She said 140,000. I said wow that is too much. Then she knocked it down and said okay 120,000 each person. Meanwhile another 2 people in our group was talking to a tout that was trying to rent us a boat for 2,800,000 pesos. I said man are you out of your mind. He said it is only $700 and you can do what you want on it. He said what do you want it for $20 each? I said yes. He called us cheap and one person in the group said he heard him call us the and word. I said I have no idea. I really stopped listening when I heard $700. Hell, I was in the Navy. I am not impressed by boats.
They were interested in drinking so we stopped in at a restaurant / bar called Texas. Walking there, every 5 feet someone was stopping trying to get the contact of a hooker. They wanted to keep drinking but I told them we needed to leave and hit some spots.
The Indriver on the way to the clock tower gave us a list: Tentaciones, Chicas Lindas, Travesuras, Paraiso del Marino. I cross-check it with the Cartagena Lists thread and also google searched. Indriver guy asked us if we had exact change. The price from Laguito to clock tower was 14,000 pesos. I said man how are you going to be driving and not have change. He said that he just started. He only had 10,000 pesos. He is an engineer and just got off work from his day job.
First place I chose was La Sucursal. We called 2 more Indrivers to go there from the clock tower. 12,000 pesos and 10 minutes away. While waiting for Indriver somebody decided they needed to buy a Corona from one of the vendors. I do not know what the communication was but they understood it would be 5,000 pesos. After the guy handed him the beer he wanted 20,000 pesos. So maybe the guy was saying $5? My cousin told him to just give the beer back. Well the vendor had already opened it. He raised bloody hell. He was cursing us out in Spanish and finally just poured the beer out when he realized it was not going to get paid for.
While we were ordering on the computer some lady comes up to me and said I am hungry too. Can you buy me something.Happens to me frequently when I get coffee at a gas station in a ghetto area of the city I live in the USA.
This morning a minority lady asked me for some food inside the store and I told her to ask the store manager, manager said he was not in charge of the store.
Jesus Christ said when his disciples criticized Mary Magdalene for placing expensive perfume on his feet, "There will be Poor always, struggling, look at the good things you've got!
Mr Enternational
07-27-24, 07:01
So we arrived at La Sucursal, except it was not La Sucursal. The driver claimed it was though. But it said Pley Club. I could see neon lights up in the distance to where the address I actually put in Indriver led to. And we had 2 Indrivers so one group of guys had already arrived. I told my cousins let's walk up to the other place. Yes. That place was La Surcusal. But we did not see the other guys there, so my cousins went back to Pley Club to check while I did the recon in La Surcusal.
There were about 10 girls. I took a look at the menu and asked one girl how much she wanted. She said 300,000. That is when I decided to leave and see what the guys were doing in Pley Club.
On my way down the street, they were coming back to get me. So they did a you turn and we went back in where the other fellas were and pulled up another table. I asked one chick how much she wanted and she said 450,000 for 30 minutes. These chicks were better than La Sucursal and the ambiance was better as well. I ordered a Gatorade which set me back $20,000 as can be seen in the Pley Club menu attached. What the fuck. The other guys still had the Indriver guy with them. We were there at least 2 hours.
Once during that time all the girls came over and introduced themselves to each of us individually, then they went back to sitting down looking bored. 1 chick also did a strip show during that time. She was dancing on all of us and when she finished, one of the guys gave her $20. I said man don't do that shit! That is why the place is fucked up now. I explained to them about how in some places when the girl finishes the show she comes around and people give her 2,000 pesos. It is all a learning experience for guys that don't know though.
I was ready to go check another place out but finally one guy decided to take a chick. After he took her, then some of the other chicks came over sitting on each of our laps socializing. A couple of the guys bought them drinks (appeared to be something like Smirnoff Ice) at 60,000 pesos.
One of my cousins swear his chick told him 200,000 and she is his all night. I said man I think you are hearing things. All of them were using that Google Translate. Another of my cousins speaks a bit of Spanish. Besides him and me, it was all GT for the rest of the guys.
I think my cousin that thought the girl said 200,000 went to the bathroom and I pulled his girl over on me asking how much she wanted. She told me 450,000 for 30 minutes or all night for 1,250,000. So when my cousin came back I told him maybe the chick is saying you have to pay the place 200,000 for her to leave with you and still did not tell you how much you have to give her. But he swears that was not the case.
Other prices guys got from girls was 250,000 and 350,000. All the time we were there there were no other guys. I told my crew that if you walk into a place and look around and there are no Colombians then you are about to get fucked and not in a good way. And especially since all the while we were there it was alllll American hip hop played. There were 25 girls in all and I don't see how they can be making a living if the place is empty.
The guy that took the chick was taking so long that we thought he must have fell asleep in the room. I did not find out until later, but another one of the guys even paid 450,000 peso for the Indriver guy to get laid. Said it was his first time getting some pussy in 8 months.
I told the Indriver guy let's head to a place geared towards Colombians. The other guy finally came out of the room and we went outside. The Indriver guy was calling another one of his taxi friends to come take us. The first Indriver guy was actually a yellow taxi by the way. I asked a taxi parked in front with Pley Club stickers on his car about taking us to Chicas Lindas. He said 10,000 pesos. But the Indriver guy said the place up the street is Chicas Lindas. But that is fucking La Sucursal! So maybe it was Chicas Lindas before and changed names was all I could think.
While waiting for the Indriver's taxi friend we went across the street where people were selling meat filled arepas for 15,000. It was a mix of beef, chicken, salchicha, and chicharron. I had barebecue sauce on mine too. That shit was so damn good. Finally the other guy showed up and we were off on a wild ride to god knows where.
When we pulled up and the smoke cleared, I could see we were at another place on the list: Travesuras. I walked in first like I owned the place. First chick I saw I went up to her and asked how much. She said 180,000. I told her that is too much. She dropped down to 150,000 for 50 minutes. I said we might have a deal. The other fellas came in and we went upstairs and put 2 tables together. We looked at the menu and ordered our drinks. Drinks here were half the price of Pley Club and there was nothing but loud ass reggaeton being played. I knew we were in the right place. There were also 2 separate Colombians with 1 girl each drinking and shit with them.
I ordered a Gatorade for 10,000. All the other guys ordered water. Except one of my cousins who ordered a half bottle of rum. When it came we all took shots, except his twin who was beat from the long day and all the other drinking he had done. He was ordering drinks 2 and 3 at a time at the other places. All he wanted to do was sleep now. So he went off by himself to sleep. That half bottle went quick so my cousin ordered a full bottle this time.
I had called the chick over that I talked to earlier. I asked her what she wanted to drink and she said Budweiser for 18,000 pesos I was trying to talk her into one the the cheaper Aguila Lights for 12,000, but she would not go for it. Come to find out she is Venezuelan. All the chicks are Venezuelan and live at the club. I asked her how much for all night and she said 700,000. I decided to take her upstairs. We get up there and I hand the lady in charge 150,000. She said that was not enough. Huh? We had a deal. The chick told me to kick in another 50,000 and we could go. I said fuck that then went back downstairs. I told the other guys what happened. One said man that girl is fine as fuck. Only $61? You should get her. I am just so used to the 80,000 in those type places in Bogota and Medellin. So I decided to go back up with her. This time I handed her 180. Now they are saying it has to be 250. Man fuck this bullshit. I went back downstairs for good.
We start getting ready to go. For some reason one of the guys is pouring the rest of the rum into an empty coke bottle. I said man we can take the bottle with us. He paid for it. Just then come to find out there is a free dance included when you buy a bottle. The waiter cleared the tables out of the way and arranged the chairs in a circle. We sat down and chick came over with a black dildo and did her thing. She was dancing on all of us and getting guys to hold the dildo like it was their dick, while she sucked it. Eventually she had all her lingerie off and was putting the dildo inside of herself. It was still a great way to end the night. My cousin ended up spending 335,000 for what was a total 1 liter of rum.
We got back to where they were staying (Miami Luxury Apartments and Hotel for the guys that are looking for a girl friendly place). Hell I already said that I stayed at Oz Luxury Hotel and that is girl friendly too. In each place the girl has to provide ID and they write the shit down and stuff. I asked our driver how much we owed him and he said to ask his friend. That is when I found out my boy had spent $110 to get him a girl at the club so he did not want to give him anything else. So our taxi guy finally said he wanted 100,000. I did not argue. I gave him 50,000 and my cousin who bought the rum gave him 50,000. That is when we found out he had videoed the girl dancing in Travesuras. I had him send me a copy of the video then I walked to my hotel. It was 2 am.
MongerHunger
07-28-24, 01:21
So we arrived at La Sucursal, except it was not La Sucursal. The driver claimed it was though. But it said Pley Club. I could see neon lights up in the distance to where the address I actually put in Indriver led to. And we had 2 Indrivers so one group of guys had already arrived. I told my cousins let's walk up to the other place. Yes. That place was La Surcusal. But we did not see the other guys there, so my cousins went back to Pley Club to check while I did the recon in La Surcusal.
There were about 10 girls. I took a look at the menu and asked one girl how much she wanted. She said 300,000. That is when I decided to leave and see what the guys were doing in Pley Club.
On my way down the street, they were coming back to get me. So they did a you turn and we went back in where the other fellas were and pulled up another table. I asked one chick how much she wanted and she said 450,000 for 30 minutes. These chicks were better than La Sucursal and the ambiance was better as well. I ordered a Gatorade which set me back $20,000 as can be seen in the Pley Club menu attached. What the fuck. The other guys still had the Indriver guy with them. We were there at least 2 hours.
Once during that time all the girls came over and introduced themselves to each of us individually, then they went back to sitting down looking bored. 1 chick also did a strip show during that time. She was dancing on all of us and when she finished, one of the guys gave her $20. I said man don't do that shit! That is why the place is fucked up now. I explained to them about how in some places when the girl finishes the show she comes around and people give her 2,000 pesos. It is all a learning experience for guys that don't know though.
I was ready to go check another place out but finally one guy decided to take a chick. After he took her, then some of the other chicks came over sitting on each of our laps socializing. A couple of the guys bought them drinks (appeared to be something like Smirnoff Ice) at 60,000 pesos.
One of my cousins swear his chick told him 200,000 and she is his all night. I said man I think you are hearing things. All of them were using that Google Translate. Another of my cousins speaks a bit of Spanish. Besides him and me, it was all GT for the rest of the guys.
I think my cousin that thought the girl said 200,000 went to the bathroom and I pulled his girl over on me asking how much she wanted. She told me 450,000 for 30 minutes or all night for 1,250,000. So when my cousin came back I told him maybe the chick is saying you have to pay the place 200,000 for her to leave with you and still did not tell you how much you have to give her. But he swears that was not the case.
Other prices guys got from girls was 250,000 and 350,000. All the time we were there there were no other guys. I told my crew that if you walk into a place and look around and there are no Colombians then you are about to get fucked and not in a good way. And especially since all the while we were there it was alllll American hip hop played. There were 25 girls in all and I don't see how they can be making a living if the place is empty.
The guy that took the chick was taking so long that we thought he must have fell asleep in the room. I did not find out until later, but another one of the guys even paid 450,000 peso for the Indriver guy to get laid. Said it was his first time getting some pussy in 8 months.Thanks for sharing.
I am so glad that I discovered other places besides Cartagena, Medellin and Bogota.
Elvis 2008
07-28-24, 02:44
So we arrived at La Sucursal, except it was not La Sucursal. The driver claimed it was though. But it said Pley Club. I could see neon lights up in the distance to where the address I actually put in Indriver led to. And we had 2 Indrivers so one group of guys had already arrived. I told my cousins let's walk up to the other place. Yes. That place was La Surcusal. But we did not see the other guys there, so my cousins went back to Pley Club to check while I did the recon in La Surcusal.I just got back from Europe, and after I read a report like this, a very good one, and another about how much women wanted from seeking, I have come to the same conclusion, Colombia is done. When I first went to Colombia and went to Santa Fe, I remember hooking up with a girl for like $10 and she was cute and nice, not that great in bed but cheap. I had no idea what to pay the women from seeking and used the escort scales and was giving them between $80 and a $100 back then and they probably in hindsight they would have been happy with less. Now I am hearing guys being quoted between $400 and $1000 an hour. One guy said it makes more sense for him to play in that USA market now. That is fucked up.
When I was in Spain, it was obvious to me that the Spanish people are not having as many children and the South Americans are filling in the gaps. A tour guide living in Spain was bragging about making $15,000 a year which was 3 X more than he would be making in Colombia. This reinforced to me the notion that Europe was more expensive to me than South and Latin America and that my marking off Europe as a mongering destination was smart.
Thing about Europe is that it pummels you if you are not prepared. We had two nonalcoholic drinks near the center of an Italian town and got hit with a $30 bill. I did not want to chance a train to the airport and did Uber instead. It was $200 versus $40. You can fly anywhere in Europe dirt cheap but if you make last minute plans, the fares can go from $30 to $300, and the train fares can do likewise. There is a learning curve.
A 2 miles Uber trip that cost $5 in Cartagena cost $30 in Europe. So after being burned a few times, I got out on the lime app rented an e-bike or scooter, and it was $5 for the same trip and fun. With time, I would have learned the trains, subways, and busses, and they probably would have been even cheaper.
And while they are $15 nonalcoholic cocktails, on a trip to the local European version of Walmart, Carrefour, I spotted bottles of wine for $1. 50. Maybe you can find that in Walmart but I have not seen it. The midlevel hotels, the Holiday Inn and Hampton Inns, were double that of Cartagena but I found Airbnbs in nice locales that could be had for what a midlevel hotel in Cartagena costs of similar quality.
In summary, that whole concept of Europe being expensive vanished. It can be affordable if you know what you are doing and plan correctly. You can do a trip and have the same costs in Europe as Colombia. I did not see any difference with the price of restaurant meals. And the hooker prices now are in the same league and you can find plenty of Latinas in Europe.
Then there is the travel. If you fly NYC to Bogota, that is a five hour flight. I flew from NYC to the Azores in Portugal on Azores airlines. That is a five hour flight too. From the Azores, you can get to most places in Europe in 3 hours. Yes, the flight time is less than if you go to to Cartagena through Florida but when I go to Cartagena and come back, it is in the 7 to 10 hour range which is the same as getting to much of Europe with Azores. I looked for the cheapest one way fares on Azores to Europe and found one for $297. That is only $100 more than the cheapest fares I ever have found to Colombia.
So now I was like what is really worse about Europe, and once I saw how Europe could be done, the only true negative is the jet lag.
But then there are the positives. The roads are great. The food is better and healthier. The places are cleaner and safer. You can go to the beaches and not get harassed. While Spain, Portugal, and Italy are not the economic stars in Europe, the infrastructure is light years ahead of Colombia. And you do not have to deal with the sex trafficking sneering.
Yes, Colombia is an upgrade over the USA in terms of the women, but for me, that was always more Medellin than anywhere else. It has been rare for me to see a bevy of beauties in Cartagena, and Bogota has hot women but the weather and the clothes needed to be worn distract from seeing the potential beauty. Still, Colombia has the USA beat but think about that difference in looks. Now multiply that difference by two and you have how much better looking the women were in Southern Europe compared to Colombia. Yes, really.
And it is hard finding a spinner in Colombia. They got the fuller, bigger, harder asses. Maybe the gut pooches out more than the attractive European with the flat abs and smaller butts. The USA women have gotten so much bigger we do not see that as much now though. In Southern Europe though, they are all over the damned place. Only place you could find more are in Asia but these women blow their Asian counterparts away looks wise.
Maybe the notoriously cold European attitude would be reason to be stay away but I did not see that much particularly among the Spanish and Portuguese, and there are Latinas there anyway. I did not talk to the women in Italy but I suspected many of the hotties were not from there. They did not look Italian.
So thanks for the report Mr. E, but like with the other reports, my take is why should anyone outside of those living in South Florida look to go to Colombia now? Maybe if people quit coming to Colombia in the numbers they are, it will go back to what it was.
Travesuras Night Club. Bar, Dg. 31 #54-127 Segundo Piso, El Rubí, Cartagena de Indias (mapped by Google). Ask the driver to take you to Bomba El Amparo area. This is a local spot for years. There should be couple of other clubs along Travesuras. Pley Club on the other hand is for cruise ship folks.
DramaFree11
07-28-24, 05:10
I just got back from Europe, and after I read a report like this, a very good one, and another about how much women wanted from seeking, I have come to the same conclusion, Colombia is done. When I first went to Colombia and went to Santa Fe, I remember hooking up with a girl for like $10 and she was cute and nice, not that great in bed but cheap. I had no idea what to pay the women from seeking and used the escort scales and was giving them between $80 and a $100 back then and they probably in hindsight they would have been happy with less. Now I am hearing guys being quoted between $400 and $1000 an hour. One guy said it makes more sense for him to play in that USA market now. That is fucked up.
When I was in Spain, it was obvious to me that the Spanish people are not having as many children and the South Americans are filling in the gaps. A tour guide living in Spain was bragging about making $15,000 a year which was 3 X more than he would be making in Colombia. This reinforced to me the notion that Europe was more expensive to me than South and Latin America and that my marking off Europe as a mongering destination was smart.
Thing about Europe is that it pummels you if you are not prepared. We had two nonalcoholic drinks near the center of an Italian town and got hit with a $30 bill. I did not want to chance a train to the airport and did Uber instead. It was $200 versus $40. You can fly anywhere in Europe dirt cheap but if you make last minute plans, the fares can go from $30 to $300, and the train fares can do likewise. There is a learning curve.
A 2 miles Uber trip that cost $5 in Cartagena cost $30 in Europe. So after being burned a few times, I got out on the lime app rented an e-bike or scooter, and it was $5 for the same trip and fun. With time, I would have learned the trains, subways, and busses, and they probably would have been even cheaper.
And while they are $15 nonalcoholic cocktails, on a trip to the local European version of Walmart, Carrefour, I spotted bottles of wine for $1. 50. Maybe you can find that in Walmart but I have not seen it. The midlevel hotels, the Holiday Inn and Hampton Inns, were double that of Cartagena but I found Airbnbs in nice locales that could be had for what a midlevel hotel in Cartagena costs of similar quality.
In summary, that whole concept of Europe being expensive vanished. It can be affordable if you know what you are doing and plan correctly. You can do a trip and have the same costs in Europe as Colombia. I did not see any difference with the price of restaurant meals. And the hooker prices now are in the same league and you can find plenty of Latinas in Europe.
Then there is the travel. If you fly NYC to Bogota, that is a five hour flight. I flew from NYC to the Azores in Portugal on Azores airlines. That is a five hour flight too. From the Azores, you can get to most places in Europe in 3 hours. Yes, the flight time is less than if you go to to Cartagena through Florida but when I go to Cartagena and come back, it is in the 7 to 10 hour range which is the same as getting to much of Europe with Azores. I looked for the cheapest one way fares on Azores to Europe and found one for $297. That is only $100 more than the cheapest fares I ever have found to Colombia.
So now I was like what is really worse about Europe, and once I saw how Europe could be done, the only true negative is the jet lag.
But then there are the positives. The roads are great. The food is better and healthier. The places are cleaner and safer. You can go to the beaches and not get harassed. While Spain, Portugal, and Italy are not the economic stars in Europe, the infrastructure is light years ahead of Colombia. And you do not have to deal with the sex trafficking sneering.
Yes, Colombia is an upgrade over the USA in terms of the women, but for me, that was always more Medellin than anywhere else. It has been rare for me to see a bevy of beauties in Cartagena, and Bogota has hot women but the weather and the clothes needed to be worn distract from seeing the potential beauty. Still, Colombia has the USA beat but think about that difference in looks. Now multiply that difference by two and you have how much better looking the women were in Southern Europe compared to Colombia. Yes, really.
And it is hard finding a spinner in Colombia. They got the fuller, bigger, harder asses. Maybe the gut pooches out more than the attractive European with the flat abs and smaller butts. The USA women have gotten so much bigger we do not see that as much now though. In Southern Europe though, they are all over the damned place. Only place you could find more are in Asia but these women blow their Asian counterparts away looks wise.
Maybe the notoriously cold European attitude would be reason to be stay away but I did not see that much particularly among the Spanish and Portuguese, and there are Latinas there anyway. I did not talk to the women in Italy but I suspected many of the hotties were not from there. They did not look Italian.
So thanks for the report Mr. E, but like with the other reports, my take is why should anyone outside of those living in South Florida look to go to Colombia now? Maybe if people quit coming to Colombia in the numbers they are, it will go back to what it was.Elvis I totally agree. Now I have the money, but no time, I miss my Moscow days. When I was in Moscow it was incredibly cheap and if you were careful you could get by dirt cheap and live like Rock Star. You can spend crazy money their, but there is just no need.
If I had my dream life I would spend my time between CDMX and Moscow. Unfortunately Moscow is out of the question now with the war. Just for the record, the safest I have ever felt was in Moscow, it is totally opposite to what the media says. Also, the city is so clean. So much fun, I miss those days, but honestly CDMX is almost as fun and hot chicks everywhere, not like Russia, but they are everywhere and attainable.
I will pay a little extra too be in safe city. The other issue with Colombia is all the sex tourist, I almost never see them in CDMX. I do see them in MTY, but it really is not that often, now in Colombia they are everywhere.
You can do a trip and have the same costs in Europe as Colombia.Not if someone is after cheap / econo pussy. Where in Western Europe can you find 50-70 mil SWs (of the same quality as in Col) or 100 mil / h casa girls (again more or less the same level of quality / service / time). Or even 18 yo 300 mil fb girls. Maybe if you compare to seeking and going to be dropping 100's of US in either place costs might be similar. Rents, hotels, services, restaurants etc are still expensive in Europe compared to Col but yeah prices in supermarkets can be comparable and in many cases cheaper. Infrastructure and safety is much better too, as you mentioned.
MongerHunger
07-28-24, 18:23
Not if someone is after cheap / econo pussy. Where in Western Europe can you find 50-70 mil SWs (of the same quality as in Col) or 100 mil / h casa girls (again more or less the same level of quality / service / time). Or even 18 yo 300 mil fb girls. Maybe if you compare to seeking and going to be dropping 100's of US in either place costs might be similar. Rents, hotels, services, restaurants etc are still expensive in Europe compared to Col but yeah prices in supermarkets can be comparable and in many cases cheaper. Infrastructure and safety is much better too, as you mentioned.In Soho, London I was able get a descent girl in the Walk-Ups for only £30 and these are not SW's. Some are of middle eastern descent, some are Brits, some are Latina, some are eastern European.
Elvis 2008
07-28-24, 18:51
Not if someone is after cheap / econo pussy. Where in Western Europe can you find 50-70 mil SWs (of the same quality as in Col) or 100 mil / h casa girls (again more or less the same level of quality / service / time).First off, I think you will agree that is not in Cartagena anymore. The deals at the clock tower are gone. And I agree that the SW and Casa prices in Bogota and Medellin are cheaper than Europe, there is the cost of the sex tourist accusation, the drugging's, the muggings, and the killings. If any of those things happen, that cheap pussy is not cheap.
And then you got the fucking hassle factor. Like Mr. E got a deal, and then they tried to jack the price up on him, I dealt with that all the time too. You negotiate 30 minutes and there is a knock on the door in 10 minutes. You can argue with it, but this was so common when I found one I liked in SF, I had to tell her, "I do not care what the price is, but how much so we do not get hassled during the session for an hour. " The amount was $40 so a lot of time those $10 and $20 great deals are really just come ONS.
But that is just one type of monger: the guy who wants to fuck as much strange as he can for as little as he can.
If you looking at quality escorts, the prices are the same. And at the high end, well, Colombia does not really even have a high end. And as DF alluded to, it makes no sense to choose Colombia over Mexico City in the sugar market at the prices Colombians want. None.
When I returned to Colombia in 2019, hotel prices were half to one-third of what a comparable one was in the USA, food prices were half of the USA, and the price of the women was dirt. All but those very small pockets you are talking about, SWs and Casas, are gone now.
Now I am hearing guys being quoted between $400 and $1000 an hour. One guy said it makes more sense for him to play in that USA market now.
And it is hard finding a spinner in Colombia. They got the fuller, bigger, harder asses. Maybe the gut pooches out more
Agree 100%. I used to be a travellor, to Colombia and DR. But when you add the cost of airfare, your travel time, missed opportunity for income, hotel expense, etc. It makes sense to get the immigrant pussy in USA. Have been using SDM lately after being banned on Seeking. Have been meeting and getting alot of great Brazilian pussy, however they do not speak English. They want to fuck more than I do and often wear me out! And I am on Cialis assist! I have to fight them off. My stable is about 5-6 now and I can only pop every other day due to age, so I have to come up with excuses to recover my refractory period. Really.
Mr Enternational
07-28-24, 22:26
One of my cousins checked in a box with alcohol which did not arrive on his flight. It came the next day. After we ate lunch at a normal-priced Colombian restaurant, 3 of us went to the airport to pick up the box. The rest of the guys were supposed to be heading to Hollywood Beach. My cousin learned his lesson that it is better to go to the grocery store on arrival if you want alcohol and stay away from importing it and the duty frees.
We got back and dropped off the box and walked to the beach to meet up with the other guys. Except when we got there, they were still at the place where we just dropped off the box. How their place is set up, they have the entire floor, but there are separate rooms like a hotel. One of the rooms have the kitchen, dining room, and 2 bedrooms. The rest of the rooms are like single hotel-style rooms. So they just leave the one room open so people can use the kitchen or whatever anytime.
So yeah the guys are not at the beach but we tell the waiter at Caliwood Kiosk #4, Peter, that we need a place for 7. The place is noisy as fuck. It is like everyone is blasting their own music under each umbrella. As soon as we sat down the vendors were on us like flies to shit. People kept trying to rent bluetooth speakers to us which explained the noise. Massage ladies would not leave us alone. I kept telling my cousins just say no no matter how much they touch on you.
We ordered drinks. I ordered a pina colada in a glass and one of my cousins ordered a caipirinha. My other cousin wanted his pina colada in the pineapple but I talked him out of that. I told him they were going to hit him over the head for that pineapple and it was going to hold less than the cup. (In Ecuador once my girl wanted hers in the pineapple. I told her what I just told you but she did not believe it. I had the bartender pour the shit from my glass into the pineapple and when it filled up there was still some left in my glass that would not fit.) So you can pay extra to be cute and have less drink or you can pay the normal price and have the correct amount of drink.
When he brought the drinks I told him to bring the bill. He insisted that he would just bring a final bill when it was time to go. I said I was not falling for that and would pay as we go. It took me a out 10 times asking for it for him to finally bring it. Then once we paid, it took us about 10 times asking for him to bring the change.
For those that do not know, the prices on the beach are a tourist ripoff and the government actually regulates the prices. The only way it kind of works out is if you only buy 1 drink. The price for 2 chairs and an umbrella is 20,000 per the government. What the kiosk is doing is telling you that the chairs and umbrellas are free, but including it into the price of other things. So the 55,000 kind of works if you only buy 1 drink (Not really though because the drink would still be overpiced because its price is supposed to be 15,000, so they are still charging you 20,000 extra). But if you buy 2 drinks you have in essence paid for the chairs and umbrella twice. Of course tourists are none the wiser to these things. There was also a 16% service charge added to the bill.
The other guys finally arrived. My cousin told me his thing was getting a manicure and pedicure at the beach. It was 50,000. I said come on man. You are letting a strange chick poke and prod you on a dirty beach with tools that have touched you do not know who or what. Meanwhile I pay 25,000 in a clean ass salon. He could not resist though. Soon all the guys were getting massages or their nails done. One guy told me to ask the chick that was doing another guy's nails about a happy ending. I asked her and she said you have to talk to those hoes about that, because I do not do happy endings. I fell out laughing.
So when the lady finished my cousin's nails the price magically went from 50,000 to 100,000. She said she had to charge him for a half massage too. I fell out laughing saying I told you, I told you. They argued back and forth and when she finally realized he was not going to give her 100,000, she left with the original 50,000.
I told the happy ending lady why'all think we are some damn fools huh? Then I showed her the prices from the government with the number you are supposed to call if someone tries to cheat you. She said you know too damn much. We started laughing. She gave me her menu so I could take pictures of it. You can see that her complete massage is 300,000, while the government says it can be no more than 50,000. You can also see that the govermnent says braids are 30,000 while her menu says 90,000. This is exactly why after my first time to Cartagena years ago I said fuck that ripoff ass place and only returned during the day driving from Barranquilla to go to Baru.
P.S. I am with a girl in Barranquilla and she told me a story of someone eating fish on the beach in Cartagena. In true fashion they said not to worry about the price and in the end tried to charge them 2,000,000 pesos. They had to call the police to straighten it out.
We ordered drinks. I ordered a pina colada in a glass and one of my cousins ordered a caipirinha. My other cousin wanted his pina colada in the pineapple but I talked him out of that. I told him they were going to hit him over the head for that pineapple and it was going to hold less than the cup.
When he brought the drinks I told him to bring the bill. He insisted that he would just bring a final bill when it was time to go. I said I was not falling for that and would pay as we go. It took me a out 10 times asking for it for him to finally bring it. Then once we paid, it took us about 10 times asking for him to bring the change.
For those that do not know, the prices on the beach are a tourist ripoff and the government actually regulates the prices. The only way it kind of works out is if you only buy 1 drink. The price for 2 chairs and an umbrella is 20,000 per the government. What the kiosk is doing is telling you that the chairs and umbrellas are free, but including it into the price of other things. So the 55,000 kind of works if you only buy 1 drink (Not really though because the drink would still be overpiced because its price is supposed to be 15,000, so they are still charging you 20,000 extra). But if you buy 2 drinks you have in essence paid for the chairs and umbrella twice. Of course tourists are none the wiser to these things. There was also a 16% service charge added to the bill.
The other guys finally arrived. My cousin told me his thing was getting a manicure and pedicure at the beach. It was 50,000. I said come on man. You are letting a strange chick poke and prod you on a dirty beach with tools that have touched you do not know who or what. Meanwhile I pay 25,000 in a clean ass salon. He could not resist though. Soon all the guys were getting massages or their nails done. One guy told me to ask the chick that was doing another guy's nails about a happy ending. I asked her and she said you have to talk to those hoes about that, because I do not do happy endings. I fell out laughing..Yes, be careful if you take the launch from the beach to the island of Baru. They will charge you ten times the normal rate. And if you order a fish meal on the island the price is about twenty times. They tried to charge me about $50 US for a fish lunch for 2. My Colombian girlfriend (now my ex-wife after only one year of marriage) did nothing to protest, just let them rip me off. I have not been to Cartagena for 1. 5 years now. You are correct, the vendors are relentless, like flies on garbage. And when you say "no moleste" they all respond, "this is my job!" and then they say, "this is not your Country. " Correct. And I do not need to go back there for more suffering.
MongerHunger
07-29-24, 18:35
My cousin told me his thing was getting a manicure and pedicure at the beach. It was 50,000. I said come on man. You are letting a strange chick poke and prod you on a dirty beach with tools that have touched you do not know who or what. Meanwhile I pay 25,000 in a clean ass salon. He could not resist though. Soon all the guys were getting massages or their nails done. One guy told me to ask the chick that was doing another guy's nails about a happy ending. I asked her and she said you have to talk to those hoes about that, because I do not do happy endings. I fell out laughing.
So when the lady finished my cousin's nails the price magically went from 50,000 to 100,000. She said she had to charge him for a half massage too. I fell out laughing saying I told you, I told you. They argued back and forth and when she finally realized he was not going to give her 100,000, she left with the original 50,000. .Most of those massage ladies on Hollywood Beach do not look too appealing and the ladies at a clean salon look way better and there can be more privacy. Also the massage ladies at the beach harass too much and just walk up to you and start rubbing your shoulders without you even asking. I turn them all down and send them on their way. No thank you!
MongerHunger
07-29-24, 18:47
Yes, be careful if you take the launch from the beach to the island of Baru. They will charge you ten times the normal rate. And if you order a fish meal on the island the price is about twenty times. They tried to charge me about $50 US for a fish lunch for 2. My Colombian girlfriend (now my ex-wife after only one year of marriage) did nothing to protest, just let them rip me off. I have not been to Cartagena for 1. 5 years now. You are correct, the vendors are relentless, like flies on garbage. And when you say "no moleste" they all respond, "this is my job!" and then they say, "this is not your Country. " Correct. And I do not need to go back there for more suffering.That's why I always pay in COP. It's best to take land transportation to Baru from Cartagena to Baru and then a fast launcha to one of the Rosario Islands. Me and my Chica did this and she arranged it. 60 k per person for everything.
AmorPorFavor
07-29-24, 19:00
One of my cousins checked in a box with alcohol which did not arrive on his flight. It came the next day. After we ate lunch at a normal-priced Colombian restaurant, 3 of us went to the airport to pick up the box. The rest of the guys were supposed to be heading to Hollywood Beach. My cousin learned his lesson that it is better to go to the grocery store on arrival if you want alcohol and stay away from importing it and the duty frees.
We got back and dropped off the box and walked to the beach to meet up with the other guys. Except when we got there, they were still at the place where we just dropped off the box. How their place is set up, they have the entire floor, but there are separate rooms like a hotel. One of the rooms have the kitchen, dining room, and 2 bedrooms. The rest of the rooms are like single hotel-style rooms. So they just leave the one room open so people can use the kitchen or whatever anytime.
So yeah the guys are not at the beach but we tell the waiter at Caliwood Kiosk #4, Peter, that we need a place for 7. The place is noisy as fuck. It is like everyone is blasting their own music under each umbrella. As soon as we sat down the vendors were on us like flies to shit. People kept trying to rent bluetooth speakers to us which explained the noise. Massage ladies would not leave us alone. I kept telling my cousins just say no no matter how much they touch on you..The service charge was 10%, standard. But thanks for some useful info finally. I'll be there in Dec and yes they will all try hard to scam you.
First off, I think you will agree that is not in Cartagena anymore. The deals at the clock tower are gone. And I agree that the SW and Casa prices in Bogota and Medellin are cheaper than Europe, there is the cost of the sex tourist accusation, the drugging's, the muggings, and the killings. If any of those things happen, that cheap pussy is not cheap.Good point, if we are comparing touristy / vacation destinations with beaches, infrastructure etc the Med or Bogota don't qualify.
Mr Enternational
07-30-24, 03:52
I was at the beach in Barranquilla today and a lady came around offering massages for 10,000 pesos. Said she usually charges 20,000.
I was at the beach in Barranquilla today and a lady came around offering massages for 10,000 pesos. Said she usually charges 20,000.Never been to the Colombian coast but that's a bit depressing looking beach, is it all like that over in Colombia? In my head I kind of had an image of palms, white sand and blue / transparent water.
Mr Enternational
07-30-24, 19:27
Never been to the Colombian coast but that's a bit depressing looking beach, is it all like that over in Colombia? In my head I kind of had an image of palms, white sand and blue / transparent water.LOL. Pretty much. Unless you go on a day trip to Baru in Cartagena or San Andres Island. Otherwise, the beaches of Colombia are no paradise.
MongerHunger
07-30-24, 19:43
Never been to the Colombian coast but that's a bit depressing looking beach, is it all like that over in Colombia?Have you not done any sort of research for yourself or watched any YouTube or any other videos of Colombian beaches and islands? Definitely sounds like you haven't attempted to do any of it.
MongerHunger
07-31-24, 06:29
LOL. Pretty much. Unless you go on a day trip to Baru in Cartagena or San Andres Island. Otherwise, the beaches of Colombia are no paradise.Actually Baru (Playa Blanca) and San Andres were my best experiences. Other beaches were also descent but not as bad as Barranquilla or Cartagena. Tierra Bomba Island at Punta Arena has a better looking beach than Hollywood Beach in Cartagena and you can see the Cartagena skyline from Tierra Bomba Island. I've been to Rodadero Beach before and that beach is better than in Santa Marta. Keep in mind that Colombia is the only country in South America that has 2 coast. One coast in the Caribbean Sea and the other coast on the Pacific Ocean. I have not been to the Pacific coast of Colombia yet.
The picture is on Rodadero Beach near Santa Marta.
MongerHunger
07-31-24, 06:58
Never been to the Colombian coast but that's a bit depressing looking beach, is it all like that over in Colombia? In my head I kind of had an image of palms, white sand and blue / transparent water.Tierra Bomba Island at Punta Arena near Cartagena, Colombia.
MongerHunger
07-31-24, 07:11
Never been to the Colombian coast but that's a bit depressing looking beach, is it all like that over in Colombia? In my head I kind of had an image of palms, white sand and blue / transparent water.Tierra Bomba Island at Punta Arena near Cartagena, Colombia.
MongerHunger
07-31-24, 18:43
Some beaches in Colombia aren't bad.
MongerHunger
07-31-24, 19:36
Some beaches in Colombia aren't bad.
Mr Enternational
07-31-24, 20:04
Keep in mind that Colombia is the only country in South America that has 2 coast. One coast in the Caribbean Sea and the other coast on the Pacific Ocean. I have not been to the Pacific coast of Colombia yet.I have been to beaches that were supposed to be the bee's knees in every country (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile) along that coast. Hollywood Beach is pretty much better than par for the course, especially the temperature of the water. If you want a nice beach do not go looking on the western side of South America.
MongerHunger
08-01-24, 04:10
I have been to beaches that were supposed to be the bee's knees in every country (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile) along that coast. Hollywood Beach is pretty much better than par for the course, especially the temperature of the water. If you want a nice beach do not go looking on the western side of South America.That's interesting because even in the USA On the Pacific coast the water is cold. Even in the middle of the summer time. You don't see many people swimming in the water.
WeKilledKenny
08-01-24, 04:16
One of my cousins checked in a box with alcohol which did not arrive on his flight. It came the next day. After we ate lunch at a normal-priced Colombian restaurant, 3 of us went to the airport to pick up the box. The rest of the guys were supposed to be heading to Hollywood Beach. My cousin learned his lesson that it is better to go to the grocery store on arrival if you want alcohol and stay away from importing it and the duty frees.
We got back and dropped off the box and walked to the beach to meet up with the other guys. Except when we got there, they were still at the place where we just dropped off the box. How their place is set up, they have the entire floor, but there are separate rooms like a hotel. One of the rooms have the kitchen, dining room, and 2 bedrooms. The rest of the rooms are like single hotel-style rooms. So they just leave the one room open so people can use the kitchen or whatever anytime.
So yeah the guys are not at the beach but we tell the waiter at Caliwood Kiosk #4, Peter, that we need a place for 7. The place is noisy as fuck. It is like everyone is blasting their own music under each umbrella. As soon as we sat down the vendors were on us like flies to shit. People kept trying to rent bluetooth speakers to us which explained the noise. Massage ladies would not leave us alone. I kept telling my cousins just say no no matter how much they touch on you.
We ordered drinks. I ordered a pina colada in a glass and one of my cousins ordered a caipirinha. My other cousin wanted his pina colada in the pineapple but I talked him out of that. I told him they were going to hit him over the head for that pineapple and it was going to hold less than the cup. (In Ecuador once my girl wanted hers in the pineapple. I told her what I just told you but she did not believe it. I had the bartender pour the shit from my glass into the pineapple and when it filled up there was still some left in my glass that would not fit.) So you can pay extra to be cute and have less drink or you can pay the normal price and have the correct amount of drink.
When he brought the drinks I told him to bring the bill. He insisted that he would just bring a final bill when it was time to go. I said I was not falling for that and would pay as we go. It took me a out 10 times asking for it for him to finally bring it. Then once we paid, it took us about 10 times asking for him to bring the change.
For those that do not know, the prices on the beach are a tourist ripoff and the government actually regulates the prices. The only way it kind of works out is if you only buy 1 drink. The price for 2 chairs and an umbrella is 20,000 per the government. What the kiosk is doing is telling you that the chairs and umbrellas are free, but including it into the price of other things. So the 55,000 kind of works if you only buy 1 drink (Not really though because the drink would still be overpiced because its price is supposed to be 15,000, so they are still charging you 20,000 extra). But if you buy 2 drinks you have in essence paid for the chairs and umbrella twice. Of course tourists are none the wiser to these things. There was also a 16% service charge added to the bill.
The other guys finally arrived. My cousin told me his thing was getting a manicure and pedicure at the beach. It was 50,000. I said come on man. You are letting a strange chick poke and prod you on a dirty beach with tools that have touched you do not know who or what. Meanwhile I pay 25,000 in a clean ass salon. He could not resist though. Soon all the guys were getting massages or their nails done. One guy told me to ask the chick that was doing another guy's nails about a happy ending. I asked her and she said you have to talk to those hoes about that, because I do not do happy endings. I fell out laughing.
So when the lady finished my cousin's nails the price magically went from 50,000 to 100,000. She said she had to charge him for a half massage too. I fell out laughing saying I told you, I told you. They argued back and forth and when she finally realized he was not going to give her 100,000, she left with the original 50,000.
I told the happy ending lady why'all think we are some damn fools huh? Then I showed her the prices from the government with the number you are supposed to call if someone tries to cheat you. She said you know too damn much. We started laughing. She gave me her menu so I could take pictures of it. You can see that her complete massage is 300,000, while the government says it can be no more than 50,000. You can also see that the govermnent says braids are 30,000 while her menu says 90,000. This is exactly why after my first time to Cartagena years ago I said fuck that ripoff ass place and only returned during the day driving from Barranquilla to go to Baru.
P.S. I am with a girl in Barranquilla and she told me a story of someone eating fish on the beach in Cartagena. In true fashion they said not to worry about the price and in the end tried to charge them 2,000,000 pesos. They had to call the police to straighten it out.I remembered my first time there when I saw the receipt pic. But I'm assuming you guys didn't end up paying the receipt amount, right? Unless the chair / umbrella fee is per person, I count umbrella / chair fee + three 15000 COP cocktails. Maybe, I'll check out Hollywood beach again after that expensive first visit since I've got a cruise coming up.
MongerHunger
08-01-24, 06:50
I have been to beaches that were supposed to be the bee's knees in every country (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile) along that coast. Hollywood Beach is pretty much better than par for the course, especially the temperature of the water. If you want a nice beach do not go looking on the western side of South America.That's interesting because even in the USA On the Pacific coast the water is cold. Even in the middle of the summer time. You don't see many people swimming in the water.
That's interesting because even in the USA On the Pacific coast the water is cold. Even in the middle of the summer time. You don't see many people swimming in the water.As a life-long Californian, whose been to quite a few beaches in the state, yes the water is cold, even in summer. But in the LA area and down south to San Diego its warm in the summer time. From the central coast on up, its too cold to swim all year round.
Elvis 2008
08-01-24, 23:04
I have been to beaches that were supposed to be the bee's knees in every country (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Chile) along that coast. Hollywood Beach is pretty much better than par for the course, especially the temperature of the water. If you want a nice beach do not go looking on the western side of South America.Outside of the water being cold in all but the summer months, what is wrong with Mancora in Peru?
Mr Enternational
08-02-24, 15:13
Outside of the water being cold in all but the summer months, what is wrong with Mancora in Peru?The water is still cold in summer months. I was planning to dive there, but in the end was happy that I did not lug my gear, because there was no way I was getting into that freezing water. And getting there is a big hassle for such a bullshit beach. Nobody that has actually experienced a good beach is going to be happy after going all that way and seeing that. It is good for Peruvians because that is as good as it gets in their country. It is no Cancun, Punta Cana, or even Daytona. Still better off at Hollywood I say. They had some good drinks though. I just sat there and drank and watched videos on my phone while old girl played in that cold water. And besides that, there was nothing going on in that little town.
Elvis 2008
08-02-24, 17:59
The water is still cold in summer months. I was planning to dive there, but in the end was happy that I did not lug my gear, because there was no way I was getting into that freezing water. And getting there is a big hassle for such a bullshit beach. Nobody that has actually experienced a good beach is going to be happy after going all that way and seeing that. It is good for Peruvians because that is as good as it gets in their country. It is no Cancun, Punta Cana, or even Daytona. Still better off at Hollywood I say. They had some good drinks though. I just sat there and drank and watched videos on my phone while old girl played in that cold water. And besides that, there was nothing going on in that little town.Okay, so you are looking at swimming, diving, and night life, and it does suck for those things, and Hollywood is better in those regards. For me, it was a welcome excursion from always foggy Lima. It is like, "Hey, Peru does have some sun after al. ".
Thing is I enjoyed the calm sea, the pelicans flying, the not too hot sand, the beach strolls, and the fish bakes we had on the beach. We bought fish from the fisherman for like 50 cents a pound that was great. Apparently, a Japanese couple bought a tuna earlier and ate the whole damned thing raw right on the pier because they could not believe the could get fresh tuna so cheap.
It is a place to chill versus party for sure. When we went looking to a gym to work out, there was like only one, and it was horrible.
Mr Enternational
08-02-24, 23:20
Hollywood Beach is basically a trade show for women to make contact with potential customers. To me it qualifies as one of the greatest shows on earth. All the ladies were there in bikinis and there were tons of them. What I recommend is to sit facing the kiosk and not the beach. I had to turn around so many times because the chicks were walking behind me. I told my cousin that it would be smarter to sit on the other side of the table and that is what he changed to do.
No idea why people here mention talking to Tony about getting chicks. Tony is just a waiter as far as I could tell. The chicks are there walking around back and forth and all you have to do is call one over.
There is no need for you to sit and drink or eat with chicks. My group just called the chicks over and added them to whatsapp for later. I called them over and asked how much. They would always say 100. I would respond 100 pesos? They would say $100. After that I say we are in Colombia; who the hell has dollars? Then they would say 400,000 pesos. When I did it with one chick her $100 turned to 200,000 pesos. These chicks were quoting these prices for 1 hour. One chick asked $120 but when asked about pesos she said 400,000. My boys would do everything on whatsapp and google translate. One of the chicks told them 300,000.
There was so much shit going on at Hollywood that it seems the massage ladies are there because you get so tense from beating off all the touts. There was even a guy getting a haircut on the beach!
One dumb ass chick walked by screaming respect me. I am not a prepago. I am a Dominican lawyer on vacation. I told one of those waiters to flag her down because I was busy on my phone. When she came up I was still busy and did not even look up so she eventually walked away.
I was about to order another drink when my cousin stopped me. He said they were about to close. The police were coming around telling everyone to leave. They do this at all public Colombian beaches at 6 pm. I have been to private beaches where this does not happen.
We got up and started to walk up toward the street. All the girls were there putting their street clothes over their bikinis. I went and talk to the chick who earlier claimed to be Dominican. We exchanged whatsapps. Apparently she is a Venezuelan parading as a Dominican lawyer on vacation. I asked her where she was from and she said Santo Domingo. I said what part. She was stuck. Then she proceeded to talk about how she is on vacation and does not want to talk about any of that. She also said she left the Dominican Republic 20 years ago and did not know anything. The next day when the Venezuelan election took place she had put stuff on her whatsapp concerning the election.
We got a couple more numbers then went back to our rooms. I was not expecting to use any of the contacts because my girl was already on the way over. We did our thing then went out to eat and she went home about 9 pm. The fellas called me to meet up at the same restaurant that I had just left. I got there and 4 of the 6 guys had one of the chicks that were at the beach earlier. They had planned to keep them all night. No idea how much they were paying.
Whenever we go to restaurants they have this thing of wanting to sit inside with the air conditioning. Well the problem with this place was that the inside was hotter than outside. I kept telling them it was hot as fuck and why not move outside. I went and got one of those chairs from the bar and sat directly under the half working AC.
One of the guys got up like he was going to the bathroom, turned around, bent over, and paused. He was fucking losing it. We had to grab him and get him back seated, and treat him for heat stroke. I told them it was hot as fuck in that room. I called Indriver to bring him back to their place where there was definitely cold AC. The girl he had came with me to help nurse him. The rest of the people came later.
We had plans to check out Androgeno, but because of that incident the plans fell though and everyone decided to stay inside. The ones that already had chicks with their chicks. I was happy because I was already sleepy as fuck.
The chicks were hitting me up after I left asking if I was still there.
Outside of the water being cold in all but the summer months, what is wrong with Mancora in Peru?You can use Sea Temperature feature in windy.com.
Mancora is now 24 degrees Celsius or 4 degrees below pool temperature.
https://www.windy.com/-Menu/menu?sst, -4. 724,-81.059,8.
MongerHunger
08-03-24, 05:39
You can use Sea Temperature feature in windy.com.
Mancora is now 24 degrees Celsius or 4 degrees below pool temperature.
https://www.windy.com/-Menu/menu?sst, -4. 724,-81.059,8.The highest / warmest summer time Pacific water temperature in LOS Angeles during is only 66°F and San Diego at 67°F. Not too pleasant for swimming in my opinion. The Caribbean average all year round water temperature is 80°F. Perfect!
GoingInBig005
08-08-24, 00:25
Long time reader, first time reporter.
Thought I'the start giving back to the forum since I've been able to gather so much info by just RTFF. I've Been to a lot of LATAM, and I'm Latino so Spanish isn't an issue for me. I usually just go and spend a couple months in BOG and love it there, the weathers not so great but I don't mind. I will be writing in the BOG thread at some point soon.
I just spent two days in CTG and yesterday (a Tuesday) went to El Paraíso Marino. The area is indeed a little sketch, but nothing worse than Santa Fe or the like. At 10 pm on a Tuesday it was not dead but not full, at around midnight it filled up a bit. Once inside I felt completely safe, but again I speak Spanish fluently and feel I have good street smarts. The inside looks nice and there were easily, to my taste, a couple of 8-9's but a lot of 6-7's. Also pretty expensive, but I expected that going in. They have a pool that you can get in if you want, I didn't. They also have every girl available go up to you and introduce themselves as a line up. They also have hookahs, which I love, and a wide variety of of liquors and beers.
The rooms were spacious and clean and have a shower, and the price for the girl and the room were 450 k. Expensive I know, I would never pay that in BOG, but this chick was a 9 to me and I don't mind spending $113 (at current exchange rates) once in while for the experience. I even asked one of the waiters what the price for the girl and the room are when my chick went to the bathroom, and he quoted the same price, so do with that what you will. In the room she was great and very "entregada" and GFE, so much so my pelvis hurts a little from the session LOL. So no complaints besides the price on my part.
Overall, if I was willing to spend that kind of money I would definitely go again.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
GOW.
Elvis 2008
08-17-24, 22:30
Cartagena had a few overcast days where it was not hot as fuck but I suppose that is why people go there. Spirit is flying from Orlando to CTG once again. That is the best way to get to the city IMO. You arrive earlier than other flights though the Orlando airport is a zoo. If you buy a one way ticket, you likely have to check in at the gate to get a boarding pass which is always fucking madness. You are less likely to have to go to the gate if you buy a round trip ticket and can get your boarding pass on line I have found. Fort Lauderdale is usually better than Orlando for checking in time wise but not by much. I have been having to fly Spirit because outside of an occasional great deal on other airlines, you are paying double in comparison price wise.
Once you get into Cartagena, there are new banners demonizing sex trafficking that I did not notice before. I did not see the Medellin style harassment though. Customs agents were friendly like they always were and the line moved along well. On checkout back out of Colombia, lines were not bad either and agents are pushing people to use the biomig machines. That may be why lines moved faster upon exiting.
I got the dreaded SSSS on my ticket. It is funny that on my trip to CTG I never had to remove my shoes but on the way back, I had to remove them three times. I was told on one flight that I flew unrelated to this one that the airline I was using did not participate in TSA precheck. I am not sure what that means. It sounds like if the airlines are not paying the TSA they are not allowed to do TSA precheck. For whatever reason, Spirit did not give me precheck on the return but priority boarding. There was no difference with that and regular boarding when I was in Lauderdale as the lines were short. This was probably the least busy I have seen airports for a long time.
The SSSS search resulted in them getting the blades off my razor and the spare blades I used. I have done 20+ flights with the razor and spares, and I was not alone. The counter was filled up with razors. So do not pack them in your carry-ONS now. Don't ask me why.
For the most part, Cartagena has not had a crazy good bakery despite their being an obvious demand for one. Well, they have one now. The places is called Melt. Their baked good is called a melte and I think there were four different flavors. Bakery is next to KFC on Carerra 2. We ate in the restaurant and were there at least an hour, and there was a line out the door the whole time. They are going to need a bigger store. Yeah, the meltes were damned good. This is a world class product although sadly the meltes are not that good when cold. You have to get them fresh. https://www.instagram.com/somos.melt/.
Ice cream wise, the wisdom was that the best ice cream was Crepes and Waffles. Sad for sure. But there is a small stand that sells gelato on the first floor in the Serrezuela mall, and it is awesome. The stand is made out to be a pink Cadillac and usually there is a small line there. Again, this is probably the only above average product of its sort in the city.
I get why there is demand for some of the island beaches like Bora Bora. You get the clear water and white sand. Thing is when I went snorkeling the undertow was so severe it took away from a lot of the enjoyment. Also, the trip out there was not so bad in the morning the ocean was calm but on the way back, if you are in a smaller boat, you are going to feel like you are on horse back as the boat bucks so much because of the waves. It is also an 1+ hour to get out there.
The biggest island off the coast is Tierra Bomba. My gal set us up a tour there. We got a nice tour of the fort and it was interesting. The fort is not as impressive as Castillo San Felipe but it was pretty impressive in its own right. The part I would return to is the beach right next to the fort. Yes, this beach has the same black dirt feel as that on Hollywood Beach, and the water is more dark than clear but the beach is protected from the waves so there is no undertow and it is really, really calm. I asked if the beach was always like this and was told yes. So if you just want to lay out or swim, it is perfect. It was also empty at 11 AM on Tuesday so it has that going for it as well.
A 20 minute walk from the beach is a hotel where we ate lunch. Sorry, I forgot the name. What made this hotel special is it had a fresh water pool which is pretty remarkable because Tierra Bomba has no fresh water on the island. Apparently, it all has to be shipped in from the mainland. Lunch was the typical but excellent island fare: fried red fish, coconut rice, avocados. If you have not had that dish, you are missing out.
And Tierra Bomba is just like 20 to 25 minute boat ride. Maybe it was the boat had more people than the one I had been on previously but the horse bucking feeling I had on the previous boat did not happen and the boat ride was pleasant unlike the return from the Rosario islands.
Interstella
08-20-24, 02:17
So, figured I would make report, though this was in Cartagena 7 months ago, so, oldish info. It was kind of funny, this was my first real mongering focused trip, and literally days after I booked everything non-refundable (cheapest), the Mayor of Cartagena issues a moratorium on prostitution in Old Town. Thought that was going to make finding women difficult, but showed up and the ladies were all out and about!
The first night went almost too well, as I found a serious cutie in less than 10 minutes. Set me back 400 K. The women out and about seemed innumerable at the time because I hadn't really taken the scene fully in yet. The next night brought things into better perspective, as I spent hours on the stroll in Old Town. There were maybe 75-100 women out in total throughout the night. Girls get scooped quick if they are a serious looker! All the good choices dried up on night 2 as it was getting very late, and so I took what was a 6/10 back to my room, and once her clothes came off that score dropped to a 5. Same thing with other nights, there are definitely 7's and 8's out there every night, but they are few and far between, so if you see something good, you've got to go for it instantly. As compared to Medellin's Parque Lleras which I would hit a few months later, CTG is definitely NOT as good as far as selection, but still not bad at all. Additionally, as opposed to CTG's Old Town, it was not uncommon in Lleras to see a very good looking woman sit there all night, even on different nights, without a single customer.
I really enjoyed Cartagena, and will be returning. I think it's a good mix of vacation and hobbying. Whereas, I found myself getting miserably bored during the day in Medellin, while breathing in sulfury air, allst while eating mostly mediocre food and not daring to leave Poblado on foot after dark. That being said, definitely going back to Medellin sometime too, haha.
Hey, do any of you know of any massage places and / or spas you'the recommend. Preferably ones that give decent to very good massages and a good time afterwards. Please let me know if you do. My PMs are always open if you want to use that.
Trying to add the pictures again since they did not upload last time.
Anyone know who she is?You don't have PM but looks like someone decided to take the girl you were looking for off the market.
The edited ones were dropped in a WhatsApp group but the original pictures are available to the public on her social media, and I made sure to put in this post they are publicly available for anyone to see as I know how the Mods here like to remove pictures.
Got here yesterday. Good report! Looks like some of your group was on the same level as my friend a while back on his first trip where I just got tired of explaining shit and just let him learn.
So we arrived at La Sucursal, except it was not La Sucursal. They always pulling that different menu with different prices and bait and switch which is why I stopped going to Playa Hollywood jajajaj.
Hollywood Beach is basically a trade show for women to make contact with potential customers. To me it qualifies as one of the greatest shows on earth. All the ladies were there in bikinis and there were tons of them. What I recommend is to sit facing the kiosk and not the beach. I had to turn around so many times because the chicks were walking behind me. I told my cousin that it would be smarter to sit on the other side of the table and that is what he changed to do.
No idea why people here mention talking to Tony about getting chicks. Tony is just a waiter as far as I could tell. The chicks are there walking around back and forth and all you have to do is call one over.
People go to Tony because they are lazy, they want people to bring girls to them even though they will be paying extra and Tony don't even have good girls. All the girls over there but some guys are just scared to talk to them, I use to see it all the time SMH.
Looks like you had a good time and you're seeing why Cartagena was ruined with bait and switches and gringo pricing. People go on vacation to relax but there's no relaxing when people have to constant haggle over things.
I was there 6/19 to 7/7 and it was sort of a mistake to be there for that long July 4th weekend. Allot of things are going on that I don't even want to talk about and people are just going to find out the hard way.
I told people on my last trip in April when I exited, they had me scan my face in BioMIG, they ignored what I said, got my face scanned again exiting back in July, they called me a liar in chat groups but I just tell my experience. Now we have multiple people posting in the groups they are getting their faces scanned on departure or denied entry into Cartagena and Medellin from an international flight.
They are also going through peoples phones upon arrival, I don't know if its targeted or random but I've met allot of random people over the years whose contact I kept and now from what I've heard in the cha groups, I'm deleting all old numbers, signing out of all apps dealing with money and deleting them, hiding all XXX pictures, clearing whatsapp chats, signing out of all dating apps and deleting them too.
Things are going to get really funny around Halloween and Christmas.
LOL. Pretty much. Unless you go on a day trip to Baru in Cartagena or San Andres Island. Otherwise, the beaches of Colombia are no paradise.100% concur. If going to the beach you have to take a boat but there are hardly any single girls there.
I usually go with chicas I know and its a whole day trip 9 - 5 then party from 8 - 2. Wake up and do it all again jajaja.
I got the dreaded SSSS on my ticket. It is funny that on my trip to CTG I never had to remove my shoes but on the way back, I had to remove them three times. I was told on one flight that I flew unrelated to this one that the airline I was using did not participate in TSA precheck. I am not sure what that means. It sounds like if the airlines are not paying the TSA they are not allowed to do TSA precheck. For whatever reason, Spirit did not give me precheck on the return but priority boarding. There was no difference with that and regular boarding when I was in Lauderdale as the lines were short. This was probably the least busy I have seen airports for a long time.
I could be 100% wrong on this and anyone is welcome to correct me on any wrong information below.
TSA pre check is usually for USA airports only. I have global entry and normally on my international return trips I never have to take off my shoes but once in a while they have me take them off. Same with laptops on my return trips, sometimes they make me put them in separate bins and sometimes they just let me keep them in the bag.
One thing I noticed is they turned up the setting on the metal detectors as for years I was able to go through with my belt and watch with no problem but on my 3 recent trips in 2024, same exact belt and watch now sets off the metal detectors in the US side and Colombia. It's like they set them to the level of the court houses as I always had to remove them when entering courthouses but never at airports.
Elvis 2008
08-24-24, 05:39
I could be 100% wrong on this and anyone is welcome to correct me on any wrong information below.
TSA pre check is usually for USA airports only. I have global entry and normally on my international return trips I never have to take off my shoes but once in a while they have me take them off. Same with laptops on my return trips, sometimes they make me put them in separate bins and sometimes they just let me keep them in the bag..Yes, precheck is just in the USA. I have the same global entry / TSA precheck clearance. That is why I was shocked I did not get precheck twice on my ticket. Once it was in New York, a Portuguese airline named Azores did not participate in precheck whatever that meant and with Spirit, they gave me precheck on the flight down to Colombia but not out of Fort Lauderdale, and I did not get why. The precheck aisle was empty. This has not happened to me in years but has happened twice in the last three months. It is weird.
The newer scanners do not require you to take out electronic devices and I hope everywhere gets them soon.
Once some lawyer suckered me into a custody hearing as a witness. I had been all over the world with the same backpack and went into a family court and something set it off. They searched me up and down. I was told that fathers are not too happy when their kids are taken away from them. There was a guy who set himself on fire outside of a courthouse after his kids were taken from him and only local news reported on it. One of my goals in life was to NEVER be in family court ever again for any reason. That shit is so fucked up.
Mr Enternational
08-24-24, 16:32
The newer scanners do not require you to take out electronic devices and I hope everywhere gets them soon.They are hustling backwards. The new scanners take twice as long and they will not be able to do anything about it until 2040. So you are hoping to wait twice as long as before.
I thought the scam happened when you brought food for the hungry local, I agree the women on the beach don't look appealing and most of them that work the scroll doesn't look appealing neither (in reference to the indigenous mixed ones) they look like Dominican BBL Light skins on steroids. I didn't even attempt to partake in any activity there because of the amount of fake bodies on the strip when I visited Colombia. I was there mainly on business and I had my girl with me but I could've snuck out on her.
Yes, be careful if you take the launch from the beach to the island of Baru. They will charge you ten times the normal rate. And if you order a fish meal on the island the price is about twenty times. They tried to charge me about $50 US for a fish lunch for 2. My Colombian girlfriend (now my ex-wife after only one year of marriage) did nothing to protest, just let them rip me off. I have not been to Cartagena for 1. 5 years now. You are correct, the vendors are relentless, like flies on garbage. And when you say "no moleste" they all respond, "this is my job!" and then they say, "this is not your Country. " Correct. And I do not need to go back there for more suffering.
Question back in June 2024 I visited CDMX and I agree Mexico has some of the hottest looking women in Latin America and that's including the 100% indigenous 1's but these were everyday working class Mexican women. The SW scene is dead the government is cracking down on prostitution just like they are in the US. For Mexico City to be so huge with a population over 23 million finding pussy is a real fucking challenge. I read the review boards on some guys from South America visiting CDMX I thought they were just whining but hell they were right! I got luck driving in the South Bouroughs of CDMX and scored some Haitian chicks. They scam hard in Mexico City! The ads are always fake on line. They'll give you a uphill battle over 3 hours of texting back and forward about how they can never answer a video call via WhatsApp and that includes the Black prostitutes from Cuba, Colombia and Venezuela also! So my question is where did you go in Mexico City to have a good time? I was staying in Polanco and the guys from Chile and Argentina put me up on game hard in that country! You'll feel safe there but that's a since of falseness they drug, Robb and murders even rich businessmen in CDMX inside upscale working girl (puta) houses! I'm glad you had a great time.
Elvis I totally agree. Now I have the money, but no time, I miss my Moscow days. When I was in Moscow it was incredibly cheap and if you were careful you could get by dirt cheap and live like Rock Star. You can spend crazy money their, but there is just no need.
If I had my dream life I would spend my time between CDMX and Moscow. Unfortunately Moscow is out of the question now with the war. Just for the record, the safest I have ever felt was in Moscow, it is totally opposite to what the media says. Also, the city is so clean. So much fun, I miss those days, but honestly CDMX is almost as fun and hot chicks everywhere, not like Russia, but they are everywhere and attainable.
I will pay a little extra too be in safe city. The other issue with Colombia is all the sex tourist, I almost never see them in CDMX. I do see them in MTY, but it really is not that often, now in Colombia they are everywhere.
Question back in June 2024 I visited CDMX and I agree Mexico has some of the hottest looking women in Latin America and that's including the 100% indigenous 1's but these were everyday working class Mexican women. The SW scene is dead the government is cracking down on prostitution just like they are in the US. For Mexico City to be so huge with a population over 23 million finding pussy is a real fucking challenge. I read the review boards on some guys from South America visiting CDMX I thought they were just whining but hell they were right! I got luck driving in the South Bouroughs of CDMX and scored some Haitian chicks. They scam hard in Mexico City! The ads are always fake on line. They'll give you a uphill battle over 3 hours of texting back and forward about how they can never answer a video call via WhatsApp and that includes the Black prostitutes from Cuba, Colombia and Venezuela also! So my question is where did you go in Mexico City to have a good time? I was staying in Polanco and the guys from Chile and Argentina put me up on game hard in that country! You'll feel safe there but that's a since of falseness they drug, Robb and murders even rich businessmen in CDMX inside upscale working girl (puta) houses! I'm glad you had a great time.The SWer scene in Mexico City is called La Merced. You can get there on the Metro Linea 1 (linea rosa) and get off as la merced station or also la candelaria.
The working girls stand on the sidewalks of this big huge street called Anillo de Circunvalacion and they are on both sides of the street running roughly from Calle San Pablo until this alley way called Calle Emiliano Zapata.
There are also some along the side streets (Calle San Pablo, Ave Corregidora, and Av Soledad).
Most of these working girls are not very good looking however but once in a while there can be hidden gems, usually new arrivals from Puebla (a nearby state to the east of CDMX).
There's a cpl decent hotels off of Emiliano Zapata, one I used to stay at about 10 years ago called Hotel Continental Mexicano and another around the corner called Hotel México Nuevo or something like that.
There are alot of street food options in this area. The tacos de sudadero are phenomenal. I passed through the area back in March of this year I saw the women still standing there as they did 10+ years but after coming back from Colombia, not a single one of them looked appealing. I just went straight to the tacos and ate about 20 tacos de sudadero and slammed 4 Mexican cokes in the glass bottles instead. Then after that I went to the nearby zona histórico and had another lunch (enmoladas de pollo) at this restaurant in the upper level of the Plaza Moneda shopping center.
Colombia has better women but Mexico has better food.
Hope this helps.
Gabacho.
Black Page
08-26-24, 17:40
I dare to ask who has been in town recently: did it change a bit? I do not hope a full recovery, but something?
I see most recent comments about the beach and Bocagrande, but how is the Reloy area now at night? Still fenced? Still the police car playing the ear-breaking siren every 10 minutes to push the people out of the square? (ALL the people, whatever category, tourists, girls, sellers,.).
And what are the hot clubs downtown now?
I RTFF, but in the last months I did not see good news. I have been there in February. Not less girls than before, but SPREAD all around downtown instead of being gethered at Reloy. The city was a huge puteria at night. Good job Mr. Alcade LOL.
I will be back in November. Thanks.
The SWer scene in Mexico City is called La Merced. You can get there on the Metro Linea 1 (linea rosa) and get off as la merced station or also la candelaria.
The working girls stand on the sidewalks of this big huge street called Anillo de Circunvalacion and they are on both sides of the street running roughly from Calle San Pablo until this alley way called Calle Emiliano Zapata.
There are also some along the side streets (Calle San Pablo, Ave Corregidora, and Av Soledad).
Most of these working girls are not very good looking however but once in a while there can be hidden gems, usually new arrivals from Puebla (a nearby state to the east of CDMX).
There's a cpl decent hotels off of Emiliano Zapata, one I used to stay at about 10 years ago called Hotel Continental Mexicano and another around the corner called Hotel Mxico Nuevo or something like that.
There are alot of street food options in this area. The tacos de sudadero are phenomenal. I passed through the area back in March of this year I saw the women still standing there as they did 10+ years but after coming back from Colombia, not a single one of them looked appealing. I just went straight to the tacos and ate about 20 tacos de sudadero and slammed 4 Mexican cokes in the glass bottles instead. Then after that I went to the nearby zona histrico and had another lunch (enmoladas de pollo) at this restaurant in the upper level of the Plaza Moneda shopping center.
Colombia has better women but Mexico has better food.
Hope this helps.
Gabacho.I meant tacos de suadero. My damn auto correct changed it.
Spent a few days in CTG in August. The forum was helpful, particularly Mr E's, GoingInBig005 and reviewing content from YouTube. I saw one of the hosts on YouTube a few times during my stay (DangerTheHookUp); he's also a guide, etc. When I talked to him, the first thing he mentioned is that fells should know some Spanish.
At the airport immigration went quickly, they needed the exact address of my Airbnb (in Menga) and not just a general location. I was hoping to get a SIM card in the airport but not available. While waiting for the Uber one of the airport staff pointed me to a tienda in front the airport that sold SIM cards, it was close by but the Uber had already arrived. I was able to get a SIM by the Airbnb. I always use a separate phone for international travel and the real phone is secured wherever I'm staying at.
It took a while to check into the Airbnb. All the information I sent them in advance, they wanted to verify again.
Changed, went to Boca Grande to eat and walk around a little. Then the Walled City.
I could describe the Walled City as a more controlled, calm but fun environment as Bourbon St! Follow the music and the crowd.
There is a lot of sights and mingling in the street. Though I did go into a few clubs it was much better for me to walk around and mingle. A couple of nights I left my buddies and walked around myself. There's liquor stores and cigar shops in the area so I had no further interest in visiting the clubs in the Walled City.
I also visited Androgeno – I went twice because of the group we were with. Great sights but it's a club and the crowd starts late. El Parsiso Del Marino was nice and I wish I went back.
One day we went to San Basilio de Palenque (excursion). It was nice but it's not one hour from Cartagena, it was raining, driver didn't know what he was doing and I probably would have been more educated by watching YouTube videos or WiKi (which I did afterwards).
The next day we walked down Carrera #2 in Bocagrande. Casa de cambio (at some point I just used the ATM), picked up some miscellaneous items and went to the beach. A lot of restaurants, bars, tiendas, shops, vendors, etc. On Carrera #2. There was someone almost every other block that had the hookup on things.
The beach is amazing! Though I've never been to Sosua I imagine it's a similar vibe, but it was amazing to see the Colombian and Venezuelan women.
I was aware that many people had problems with vendors at the beach and servers. 1) I never sat down so didn't get bothered with anyone. 2) I ordered all my drinks directly with the cashier. I got a printed receipt every time I made a purchase, 1 Club Colombia beer is $2. 15, $9000 COP, the bar does charge a 10% service fee. One night at Androgeno I ordered 12 beers for $72.34. I saw no requirements that if you enter the beach you have to purchase food and drinks from the vendors, FYI.
The beach closes at 6 and the police will make you aware you have to leave. I went back to the beach by myself another day and had a great time. Keep your phone charged and use the WhatsApp QR code. It was funny when I would let someone scan my QR code and then her friend would scan my code also.
It's hot, humid and will rain. I found some stylish water shoes on Amazon that I wear to the beach. At night it was shorts and polo's (moisture-wick).
Some friends did a boat ride to an island, but it didn't seem economical for me (price and no food or drinks); comparing it to my DR experiences, etc.
I'm always a good host at an Airbnb so keep my refrigerator stocked with rotisserie chicken and beer.
Anything that you purchase / buy always ask for the price in advance, do some Q and A.
First visit and a very fun experience.
Apologies, I have not devoted time to purchasing bitcoin so don't have access to DMs. I probably could have mailed in a payment, but I got rid of my printer. I'm working on it.
World Wide Wes
09-23-24, 21:42
Hello and thank you to everyone for your continuous contributions to the forum. I was wondering if the activity in the walled city has amped up after the construction and Mayor regulations. I was there in May and only went to the walled city once for nightlife but it was extremely slow. I think we went to Club Space which I think was called Omni at the time and at 1 am it was only a handful of people there.
In Soho, London I was able get a descent girl in the Walk-Ups for only 30 and these are not SW's. Some are of middle eastern descent, some are Brits, some are Latina, some are eastern European.Where are the Walk-Ups? Visiting for the 1st time and wanted to know the best street or streets to go to find the available girls.
Mechanic88
09-24-24, 17:33
Hello and thank you to everyone for your continuous contributions to the forum. I was wondering if the activity in the walled city has amped up after the construction and Mayor regulations. I was there in May and only went to the walled city once for nightlife but it was extremely slow. I think we went to Club Space which I think was called Omni at the time and at 1 am it was only a handful of people there.I'm here in Cartagena now. Cartagena is not what it used to be. I would skip it and go to Medellin. Quality of women had gone down by a lot.
MongerHunger
09-30-24, 10:59
Where are the Walk-Ups? Visiting for the 1st time and wanted to know the best street or streets to go to find the available girls.Where are you visiting for the first time?
Hi ISGers.
I haven't been to Cartagena since 2018; but going back in a month. I heard a lot of things have changed. Some bars / clubs have been shutdown, no traffic at the clock tower but girls are dispersed; is there a good area nearby to stay where the action is? Any ideas on hotels that are guest friendly. Going to be rolling solo this time. Apologizes if this question doesn't belong in here.
Hi ISGers.
I haven't been to Cartagena since 2018; but going back in a month. I heard a lot of things have changed. Some bars / clubs have been shutdown, no traffic at the clock tower but girls are dispersed; is there a good area nearby to stay where the action is? Any ideas on hotels that are guest friendly. Going to be rolling solo this time. Apologizes if this question doesn't belong in here.I literary just said shit is going to get really interesting around Halloween and the closer it get to Christmas, you have not been there since the pandemic hit and want to do a return solo trip?
No dar papaya. Save your trip until the third week of January unless you want to be a walking target.
Hello and thank you to everyone for your continuous contributions to the forum. I was wondering if the activity in the walled city has amped up after the construction and Mayor regulations. I was there in May and only went to the walled city once for nightlife but it was extremely slow. I think we went to Club Space which I think was called Omni at the time and at 1 am it was only a handful of people there.No. They now have a snitch hotline where anyone can report what's going on and cops come and "investigate". People are posting that they have AirBB with no security and cops knocking on their door within minutes after a chica arrives to "investigate". They are also using drones to locate the girls inside the wall city to make it harder for them to work. Many of my girls who have not found a suggar daddy to support them monthly tell me its getting harder to work because they are constantly walking, and no gringos are there.
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I dare to ask who has been in town recently: did it change a bit? I do not hope a full recovery, but something?
I see most recent comments about the beach and Bocagrande, but how is the Reloy area now at night? Still fenced? Still the police car playing the ear-breaking siren every 10 minutes to push the people out of the square? (ALL the people, whatever category, tourists, girls, sellers,.).
And what are the hot clubs downtown now?
I RTFF, but in the last months I did not see good news. I have been there in February. Not less girls than before, but SPREAD all around downtown instead of being gethered at Reloy. The city was a huge puteria at night. Good job Mr. Alcade LOL.
I will be back in November. Thanks.The clubs in Centro won't have chicas that you're looking for. Chicas that are there will be with mongers. Its done for clubs in Centro, only the ones in Bosque and that's the hood.
Too close to Christmas.
No dar papaya.
I literary just said shit is going to get really interesting around Halloween and the closer it get to Christmas, you have not been there since the pandemic hit and want to do a return solo trip?
No dar papaya. Save your trip until the third week of January unless you want to be a walking target.Thank you. I'm going to be in South America already traveling so figured I'd stop back there for a few days on my way back. Damn. Sorry missed your original post.
Once you see packs of Afro Americans arriving you know the party is about to end. Loud, cheap and love attention and no respect for the culture -- not all.
If you find paradise you probably shouldn't post. Internet has ruined modern day mongering.
Once you see packs of Afro Americans arriving you know the party is about to end. Loud, cheap and love attention and no respect for the culture -- not all.
If you find paradise you probably shouldn't post. Internet has ruined modern day mongering.Its not necessarily "Afro Americans", its who's emulating the hip hop culture of being loud or attention seeking. I can assure you the many Indians, Colombians, Venezuelans, Mexicans, and Hispanics are doing it as well, its the culture that is portrayed that has always been the problem. Why do you think these "tour guides" like Danger the hook up and Goldie walking around in Colombia with Jordans, construction Timberlands, pants sagging and fitteds? They know who what to emulate to attract who they want to do business with. Same with the 2 cuts in their eyebrows, we know what culture that comes from and what to expect when too much of a similar appearance gather in one location.
I'm currently in Montreal and seeing the same thing, Jordans, Yankee fitted that Pop Smoke song play at least 5 times a night, girls out here looking like cartoon characters with lashes so heavy they can barely keep their eyes open, being loud in the streets trying to get attention. When I get away from these individuals with this certain type of look where they are all emulating each other, things are better.
To sum it up, a certain attire more or less brings along a certain type of behavior and that behavior ruin things for the next person who is not part of that crowd.
Mr Enternational
10-02-24, 17:59
Once you see packs of Afro Americans arriving you know the party is about to end. Loud, cheap and love attention and no respect for the culture -- not all.So who is responsible for the crazy prices of Sosua, Cartagena, and to a certain extent Medellin these days?
Black Page
10-02-24, 18:05
The clubs in Centro won't have chicas that you're looking for. Chicas that are there will be with mongers. Its done for clubs in Centro, only the ones in Bosque and that's the hood.Too close to Christmas.
No dar papaya.I will be 4 days in CTG in November, and it's not a mongering holiday I planned. It's a side relax time after business trip. If I want to relax with girls, I go to Asia.
However, my main question is still unanswered: is the Reloy area still fenced at night? Or has it beed freed?
Are girls still spread all around, since the main gathering area is lost? When there are girls, I can find my way.
Elvis 2008
10-02-24, 18:48
I will be 4 days in CTG in November, and it's not a mongering holiday I planned. It's a side relax time after business trip. If I want to relax with girls, I go to Asia.
However, my main question is still unanswered: is the Reloy area still fenced at night? Or has it beed freed?.Forget about the clock tower or street walkers in tourist areas. The mayor is set on getting rid of that, and he has the support of the citizens.
Mr. Enternational wrote a post about Hollywood Beach and the clubs a while back. And keep it on the down low. You are being watched and do not want to be seen bringing in multiple hookers to an upscale hotel or airBNB. If you want to do see multiple women, I would look at taking women to the abundant and cheap sex hotels. Hope that helps.
Mechanic88
10-02-24, 19:13
I will be 4 days in CTG in November, and it's not a mongering holiday I planned. It's a side relax time after business trip. If I want to relax with girls, I go to Asia.
However, my main question is still unanswered: is the Reloy area still fenced at night? Or has it beed freed?
Are girls still spread all around, since the main gathering area is lost? When there are girls, I can find my way.Just got back from CTG last night. Centro is no longer fenced in. There is a lot of cops that keep telling sellers and girls to keep moving. They can no longer just stand in one spot.
I will be 4 days in CTG in November, and it's not a mongering holiday I planned. It's a side relax time after business trip. If I want to relax with girls, I go to Asia.
However, my main question is still unanswered: is the Reloy area still fenced at night? Or has it beed freed?
Are girls still spread all around, since the main gathering area is lost? When there are girls, I can find my way.I asked a few of my chicas and was told that they closed Centro again yesterday. The barricades are blocking certain streets to prevent cars from entering.
Where are you visiting for the first time?Top left of the page will tell you what country / city the tread is about, hope this helps "BUD" anything else I can help with please feel free to reach out "BUD" !
Maybe coffee sometime fruit loops? Travel safe and have fun!
MongerHunger
10-04-24, 14:29
Top left of the page will tell you what country / city the tread is about, hope this helps "BUD" anything else I can help with please feel free to reach out "BUD" !
Maybe coffee sometime fruit loops? Travel safe and have fun!I know what city this thread is but if you had any knowledge about how to follow a conversation back to it's original point you would know the reason for the question I asked. No need for the name calling. It shows immaturity.
Mr Enternational
10-05-24, 15:15
One of the guys got up like he was going to the bathroom, turned around, bent over, and paused. He was fucking losing it. We had to grab him and get him back seated, and treat him for heat stroke. I told them it was hot as fuck in that room. I called Indriver to bring him back to their place where there was definitely cold AC. The girl he had came with me to help nurse him. The rest of the people came later.
We had plans to check out Androgeno, but because of that incident the plans fell though and everyone decided to stay inside. The ones that already had chicks with their chicks. I was happy because I was already sleepy as fuck.
The chicks were hitting me up after I left asking if I was still there.When I left their apartment at Miami whatever it was called, there were about 3 streetwalkers outside. One came up to me but I acted like I could not speak Spanish. She wanted 200,000 for 1 hour. I talked her to 100,000. After she agreed, I started speaking to her in Spanish. She was Venezuelan. We made the short walk to my hotel. She gave the clerk some paper ID shit that he copied and we went up to the room. In the room she tried to suck with a rubber, but I told her no, no, no. She was quickly comfortable doing BBBJ. Good time fucking. I tore that little pussy up!
The next morning I took Indrive to Berlinastur for 12,000 pesos. When I got out, some guy was offering a ride to Barranquilla for 100,000. I said no thanks and went up to buy my van ticket for 35,000 and arrived in Quilla about 1 hour 45 minutes later.
Don't remember where I took this picture saying not to shit in this toilet.
The bar at Hollywood has been closed, It's just the beginning of the eventual crackdown which will probably include the palmetto sunset before too long.
When I left their apartment at Miami whatever it was called, there were about 3 streetwalkers outside. One came up to me but I acted like I could not speak Spanish. She wanted 200,000 for 1 hour. I talked her to 100,000. After she agreed, I started speaking to her in Spanish. She was Venezuelan. We made the short walk to my hotel. She gave the clerk some paper ID shit that he copied and we went up to the room. In the room she tried to suck with a rubber, but I told her no, no, no. She was quickly comfortable doing BBBJ. Good time fucking. I tore that little pussy up!
The next morning I took Indrive to Berlinastur for 12,000 pesos. When I got out, some guy was offering a ride to Barranquilla for 100,000. I said no thanks and went up to buy my van ticket for 35,000 and arrived in Quilla about 1 hour 45 minutes later.
Don't remember where I took this picture saying not to shit in this toilet.It took me some getting used to about seeing those signs during my early trips. Many chicas were getting mad at me when I stayed in AirBB houses because I was flushing toilet paper, Qtips and wet wipes. All of which were abe to break down into paper and not cog. In the high rise apartments no issues, it was only the houses. Guess they don't have a city sewer line and every house have their own septic tank, but that's just a guess.
The bar at Hollywood has been closed, It's just the beginning of the eventual crackdown which will probably include the palmetto sunset before too long.They are preparing for the holiday season, I believe its this Mayors first Christmas and he knows what type of people comes at what time of year, he knows what to do to deter certain types of people from coming there and to attract the people he does. Its unfortune but those who like to do certain things have to find a new area or travel when there are no American holidays to extend their trip. Right now I'm exploring other places and Montreal is not it, I can't wait to leave tomorrow.
If you are referring to the building it has aways been terrible. For a building that's the tallest in El Laguito with incredible views of the sunset them rules has to go. My first argument was the visitor hours, my second was didn't know I had to "reserve" a time slot to use the pool, my third argument was when they didn't let my Chica up on her revisit because she didn't have her physical ID despite she was there as a visitor 2 days before and they already had her in the system when they gave her the visitor wristband. The bats! Them noisy bats when we trying to party in the jacuzzi on the balcony.
I know what city this thread is but if you had any knowledge about how to follow a conversation back to it's original point you would know the reason for the question I asked. No need for the name calling. It shows immaturity.Like the post you sent to me, that mods deleted when all I was doing was trying to help you out as a gentleman, and your response which was correct (I didn't know) you berated me with lots of smart ass remarks instead of teaching me the way I thought I was helping you out? Like that BUD?
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They are preparing for the holiday season, I believe its this Mayors first Christmas and he knows what type of people comes at what time of year, he knows what to do to deter certain types of people from coming there and to attract the people he does. Its unfortune but those who like to do certain things have to find a new area or travel when there are no American holidays to extend their trip. Right now I'm exploring other places and Montreal is not it, I can't wait to leave tomorrow.
If you are referring to the building it has aways been terrible. For a building that's the tallest in El Laguito with incredible views of the sunset them rules has to go. My first argument was the visitor hours, my second was didn't know I had to "reserve" a time slot to use the pool, my third argument was when they didn't let my Chica up on her revisit because she didn't have her physical ID despite she was there as a visitor 2 days before and they already had her in the system when they gave her the visitor wristband. The bats! Them noisy bats when we trying to party in the jacuzzi on the balcony.All the Youtube videos and selfie stick reports have become a big eyesore for the government, all the druggings and gang activity that I predicted a few years ago have become a big problem.
The area at Hollywood in front of the bar has been targeted in Titan 25, first checking on the girls, and the large group s of brothers are next to go, as they destroyed Sosua thet have to go.
I will be 4 days in CTG in November, and it's not a mongering holiday I planned. It's a side relax time after business trip. If I want to relax with girls, I go to Asia.
However, my main question is still unanswered: is the Reloy area still fenced at night? Or has it beed freed?
Are girls still spread all around, since the main gathering area is lost? When there are girls, I can find my way.You will have no problems if you are discreet and respectful.
Blocks are closed and then open. Its a cattle situation.
Just as a public service. These obvious red flags for druggings.
1). Girl doesn't ask for money and says she is not a hooker.
2). Usually invites a friend with the hint of a three some.
3) You meet her on Tinder.
4) Asks you to go to her place or meet in the street.
5) Often checks her cell phone.
If you see a. Gorl in the Clock Tower area. Ask for her Whats App. Walk away and then text her immediately to discuss.
Don't linger or walk around the area, assume you are being watched.
Its not a big deal, but its safe to be careful right now.
Wow my trip to ctg was such a let down after visiting MDE. CTG didn't find a single girl who was skinny or just right, almost all just ugly or overweight for me. The girls in the walled city all wanted over 500,000 cop in each encounter. I speak some Spanish but couldn't get any to be under 300,000 cop. Don't think I will visit ctg unless there are pre planned contacts and hot ladies. Most were very thick and dark skinned from outside of Colombia. Anyone with contacts / pics of decently priced under $125 usd girls message me for CTG because I didn't find any and would hate to cross of this city. Also anyone know of any places in BAQ message me, as I mongered there and didn't find a single place in BAQ. No girl bars / clubs or places with working girls.
Mr Enternational
10-08-24, 18:50
Wow my trip to ctg was such a let down after visiting MDE. CTG didn't find a single girl who was skinny or just right, almost all just ugly or overweight for me. The girls in the walled city all wanted over 500,000 cop in each encounter. I speak some Spanish but couldn't get any to be under 300,000 cop. Don't think I will visit ctg unless there are pre planned contacts and hot ladies. Also anyone know of any places in BAQ message me, as I mongered there and didn't find a single place in BAQ. No girl bars / clubs or places with working girls.Did you not read the forum before going to either place? I am in Barranquilla now, but really only deal with chicks who are not hookers. The hooker game is all online now. So get on mileroticos and find a chick to go to. Why do guys travel expecting to find things that don"t exist?
Tried to pm you but for some reason the site won't let me. BAQ has a lot of options. You could start with zero stress spa. It's easy to find well known and cheap. It's open until late too. I use worldtravelers map when I am there and I have been to several spas and casas. Feel free to PM me for more info.
Wow my trip to ctg was such a let down after visiting MDE. CTG didn't find a single girl who was skinny or just right, almost all just ugly or overweight for me. The girls in the walled city all wanted over 500,000 cop in each encounter. I speak some Spanish but couldn't get any to be under 300,000 cop. Don't think I will visit ctg unless there are pre planned contacts and hot ladies. Most were very thick and dark skinned from outside of Colombia. Anyone with contacts / pics of decently priced under $125 usd girls message me for CTG because I didn't find any and would hate to cross of this city. Also anyone know of any places in BAQ message me, as I mongered there and didn't find a single place in BAQ. No girl bars / clubs or places with working girls.
Wow my trip to ctg was such a let down after visiting MDE. CTG didn't find a single girl who was skinny or just right, almost all just ugly or overweight for me. The girls in the walled city all wanted over 500,000 cop in each encounter. I speak some Spanish but couldn't get any to be under 300,000 cop. Don't think I will visit ctg unless there are pre planned contacts and hot ladies. Most were very thick and dark skinned from outside of Colombia. Anyone with contacts / pics of decently priced under $125 usd girls message me for CTG because I didn't find any and would hate to cross of this city. Also anyone know of any places in BAQ message me, as I mongered there and didn't find a single place in BAQ. No girl bars / clubs or places with working girls.I don't understand why people continuously do this.
Another poster comes along comparing MDE to CTG.
Wants "hot ladies" but fail to say what they consider to be a "hot lady".
Wants people to message them but don't have PMs.
Also RTFF, here are 3 of my posts that kind of explains why things are the way they are. TLDR. Titan24.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2898698&viewfull=1#post2898698
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2908044&viewfull=1#post2908044
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2914037&viewfull=1#post2914037
We used to have ladies come down from Bogota + Medellin to hang out on the beach and make a little cash because the seen down at Playa Hollywood has changed these ladies don't come down as much It is what it is. Most of the people I know who've been coming to Cartagena for a will not go to Hollywood.
Mr Enternational
10-11-24, 20:48
We used to have ladies come down from Bogota + Medellin to hang out on the beach and make a little cash because the seen down at Playa Hollywood has changed these ladies don't come down as much It is what it is. Most of the people I know who've been coming to Cartagena for a will not go to Hollywood.When I was there at the end of July they were there.
When I was there at the end of July they were there.Sounds like we were there at the same time.
There were certainly plenty of women, that particular beach has become so crowded and noisy that I have to stay further down. I just wander in the afternoons to have a look.
I tend to agree with Nypher about what has evolved on that beach. I have better luck on Tinder or referrals from my local friends.
Michael1967
10-17-24, 18:36
Just got back from CTG last night. Centro is no longer fenced in. There is a lot of cops that keep telling sellers and girls to keep moving. They can no longer just stand in one spot.I was there August 14-28. It was the same way, but unlike my last trip (a year ago), I had a great time. I did get a little more adventurous and avoided the clock tower (and El Centro) for the most part, but when I was there, women didn't approach me like in the past. This was great because I would rather approach someone I like than have random desperate women try to talk to me. I Quickly found that drinks were much, much cheaper elsewhere and that even at my old age, women were open to talking to me and hanging out. My Spanish sucks. Well, it's not terrible, but I had a horrible time understanding anyone that spoke to me (probably their accent and word choice). Went to a few massage places (avoid "Latinos Massage" or something like that). The massage places were cheap and I got HEs at all of them (like $50 total). Just google men's massage and you'll find them. There are 4 that I tried. I even went to someone's incall in a bad neighborhood.
I think I was at Dolce. They wanted me to buy a bottle for $100 to sit down. I looked around and saw dozens of women sitting without even a drink in their hand. But if I wanted to sit, I needed to pay $100. I at least had bought a drink. So, that was the one and only time I went there.
I'll be there again in a week or so. I generally stay at a guest friendly AirBnb about a mile walk from El Centro.
DarthRaider
10-17-24, 23:16
I got a chick up in Riohacha that wants to get tag teamed if 2 friends are up for it. Also can do one on one. Please PM me for details. No $ involved.
Black Page
10-23-24, 11:28
It's crazy how all these "YouTubers" who just started traveling to these same exact countries all of a sudden became experts on traveling and posting travel guides.I second and agree with you 100%.
It is particularly humourous to read "They break down how to deal with prostitutes in Colombia. " ROFL.
The OP must be one of them trying to promote a pointless YT channel and increase traffic.
Black Page
10-23-24, 11:53
First of all, thanks to all who spent time to reply. Apologies if I ack and thank after a long time.
I will be in CTG in 3 weeks, after one week in Medellin for work. I will have not much time for fun in Medellin, except exploring the Centro at night. I hope that 10 years of absence did not change it too much, and did not make me naif enough with aging to get in trouble for my fault.
I also thank for all advices, but it seems that some did not remember that I have been playing in CTG for almost 20 years already. My first time was around 2006, when the Wall at night was the border between the safe Tower and the wild lonely space with gangs of ladrones outside. Even most of the walled city at night was too lonely to be safe.
To be sure about the year, I searched for my first report in this thread and I found this:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=537700&viewfull=1#post537700
What a nostalgy! Reading this after so many years makes me smile about how naively enthusiast I was. I especially laughed when I read "I am handsome". Embarrassing.
If we leave security apart, as a matter of fact CTG is NOT the dream place anymore for cheap and wild girls it was used to be, but this holds at least since before COVID. Now, it's another world.
You will have no problems if you are discreet and respectful.That are the wisest words I read in many pages. It should be pinned on top of the thread.
Just got back from CTG last night. Centro is no longer fenced in. There is a lot of cops that keep telling sellers and girls to keep moving. They can no longer just stand in one spot.It's GREAT to hear that. It sounds to be the best balance between a cattle fence and the excesses of "puteria" before. I also hope the barbarians from US and stupid Youtubers will be discouraged enough to make noise and nonsense here.
Forget about the clock tower or street walkers in tourist areas. The mayor is set on getting rid of that, and he has the support of the citizens.
Well, I hope you are wrong. At least, you were wrong when I visited CTG last time, which was last February. There was the cattle fence, police doing their best to push people (any people, girls, men, casual tourists) away from the square playing the ear-breaking siren every 10 minutes after midnight, but the Centro was full of girls roaming around. A lot of girls. Just not standing in the square, but walking the streets around.
My impressions from last February:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2890538&viewfull=1#post2890538
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2891856&viewfull=1#post2891856
We'll see.
You are being watched and do not want to be seen bringing in multiple hookers to an upscale hotel or airBNB. If you want to do see multiple women, I would look at taking women to the abundant and cheap sex hotels. Hope that helps.As above, I have beeing playing here for nearly 20 years I rent an apartment. Porteros are my best support and resource. Thank you anyway for caring.
Elvis 2008
10-24-24, 01:04
Well, I hope you are wrong. At least, you were wrong when I visited CTG last time, which was last February. There was the cattle fence, police doing their best to push people (any people, girls, men, casual tourists) away from the square playing the ear-breaking siren every 10 minutes after midnight, but the Centro was full of girls roaming around. A lot of girls. Just not standing in the square, but walking the streets around.
I was there a few weeks ago, and yeah, the groups of women who you see around who are walking who might be hookers are still out. I probably saw a dozen women like this out. They do not have on the typical hooker decor I saw years ago. I guess the goal now is to blend in better and look like you are headed to a restaurant or club.
CtgCharlieBoy1
10-24-24, 05:14
It's crazy how all these "YouTubers" who just started traveling to these same exact countries all of a sudden became experts on traveling and posting travel guides.
These channels are a bunch of nonsense where they constantly repeat the same BS over and over and turns into a yelling match where some believe the louder they yell the more right their argument becomes and it drown out any valid point they are trying to make.
Fact is the majority of those people in the travel space still act like they are in high school.
I rather watch at LIFEOFUNCJAE who not only lives in Cartagena but gives day to day advice on his actual experiences a foreigner trying to progress in Colombia from dating to buying property to investing. Well worth my personal attention over a questionable stripclub DJ form Miami. To each his own.They have actually been traveling for years. They had an original channel that was at 20 K subs but got banned on youtube for posting those free travel guides on youtube. They have now moved them to patreon, however their Cartagena & Medellin breakdowns are legendary and had millions of views a few years back. They are originally what I watched to helped me travel to CTG safely for the first time. In their Patreon they actually showed that they went down to CTG a few weeks ago and Unc Jae posted a picture with them on his youtube so I guess they are friends.
CtgCharlieBoy1
10-24-24, 20:52
I second and agree with you 100%.
It is particularly humourous to read "They break down how to deal with prostitutes in Colombia. " ROFL.
The OP must be one of them trying to promote a pointless YT channel and increase traffic.This is a International Sex Guide website isn't it? As far as I am concerned the main purpose of a website and forum called "International Sex Guide" would be to provide information to men on how to deal with prostitutes and not where to purchase property, buy farms, and raise cattle.
Anyway, to those of you who are interested you can check Mentuition out on YouTube. Good show and good information. This is coming from an old fart that has been traveling for over 30 years. The fact is many men are getting robbed, drugged, or killed in Colombia and this type of content NEEDS to exist or more men won't make it back home. We just had someone die last week in Poblado in Medellin due to a drugging from a sex worker.
If you are not interested then you can simply move along.
Hey guys,
I'm going to Cartagena in January for two weeks. I need to start booking soon but what hotels / air bnb's would you recommend for a two week stay that's cost friendly and near the action?
This is a International Sex Guide website isn't it? As far as I am concerned the main purpose of a website and forum called "International Sex Guide" would be to provide information to men on how to deal with prostitutes and not where to purchase property, buy farms, and raise cattle.
Anyway, to those of you who are interested you can check Mentuition out on YouTube. Good show and good information. This is coming from an old fart that has been traveling for over 30 years. The fact is many men are getting robbed, drugged, or killed in Colombia and this type of content NEEDS to exist or more men won't make it back home. We just had someone die last week in Poblado in Medellin due to a drugging from a sex worker.
If you are not interested then you can simply move along.The same robbing, drugging, killing is happening right here in good ole USA in greater numbers. No one wants to talk about what happens in Atlanta, Miami, Chicago, NYC, LA, and DC. Club owner just got drugged and robbed recently in Atlanta from women. People are getting set up on the dating app right here at home but it's not talked about much due to other more eye catching news that generates clicks.
Ok humor me. "as an old fart that have been traveling for 30 years" what information "when dealing with prostitutes" have you specifically learned from their channel that you didn't already know from your personal experience or from second hand experience through friends and family?
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CtgCharlieBoy1
10-26-24, 18:34
Hey guys,
I'm going to Cartagena in January for two weeks. I need to start booking soon but what hotels / airbnb's would you recommend for a two week stay that's cost friendly and near the action?CK thanks for asking and this is a great question!
If you are traveling to CTG for your first time, the Walled City or Boca Grande would be best if you want to be close to the action. The Walled City will have a lot of street walkers once the sun goes down and night clubs. You can also check out Club Omnia or Club Cattleya (the new Dolce Vita) in the Walled City.
If you stay in Boca Grande I would suggest hitting up Playa Hollywood (Hollywood Beach) during the day and hitting the streets of Boca Grande at night. There are usually working women walking around everywhere.
AirBnB is typically better but you need to make sure the place is guest friendly which is harder and harder to find nowadays. Check your DMs and I will send you some places that are good to stay at.
Vague questions gets you vague answers.
RTFF lots of changes happens to that area.
Have you already made yourself familiar with Titan24?
What is cost friendly to you?
Does location matter? Hot water? Security? A pool? What action are you looking for? Clubs? Girls? Drugs?My bad.
I'll be heading over there in early January. Looking to be there for 2 weeks.
I'm looking for a cost effective place, whether a Air BNB or hotel that's guest friendly, close to the Clock Tower, and has security.
My guy in Cartagena tells me that Dolce has reopened two blocks away from where it use to be. Anyone else can confirm this?
WanderingMan
10-27-24, 00:25
This is a International Sex Guide website isn't it? As far as I am concerned the main purpose of a website and forum called "International Sex Guide" would be to provide information to men on how to deal with prostitutes.
Anyway, to those of you who are interested you can check Mentuition out on YouTube.You are correct about the purpose of this site, or at least the intended purpose; however, the videos on Mentuition merely look like infomercials to subscribe to their paid site. They know a lot of information about things like guest friendly accommodations but only offer the information if you're a paying member.
CtgCharlieBoy1
10-28-24, 06:53
My guy in Cartagena tells me that Dolce has reopened two blocks away from where it use to be. Anyone else can confirm this?The new club is called Santa Cattleya. It is open for business and there are working girls there.
CtgCharlieBoy1
10-28-24, 07:02
You are correct about the purpose of this site, or at least the intended purpose; however, the videos on Mentuition merely look like infomercials to subscribe to their paid site. They know a lot of information about things like guest friendly accommodations but only offer the information if you're a paying member.There is tons of free information on their Patreon maybe they took it down recently but they do also give out good info and updates on CTG on their live YouTube show. Many creators have resorted to off key sites like Rumble and even paywalled websites like Patreon because YouTube is too sensitive. I would suspect that if Rumble ever gets popular they will censor and take down videos as well.
And then of course sometimes information will also cost you money. This website is full of great information but we all had to pay to be apart of it.
Let me know what information you want and maybe I can help or recommend other places you can get info from.
Does anyone know if the caliwood bar on hollywood beach is open again??
Michael1967
10-29-24, 00:24
I'm in Cartagena for the next 9 days. I generally go after "normal" looking women. Meaning if you can tell they are working, I'm not interested. I generally look for women that want to hang out, dance, are fun to be around and are attractive to me (cute face first, then nice ass, boobs are a bonus), but I have no issue with less attractive women that are cool and fun to be around.
I have zero interest in a chica whose only goal is to get back to your room and spend an hour and then leave. No how matter how fantastic she looks. I'm also not really price conscious, I will pay much more than the going rate for a cool lady that wants to hang out, have some drinks and dance. I live in Seattle and a fat, ugly woman with a poor attitude is $500, so while it seems some guys here are complaining about paying $100. I have no issues with paying that and more (I do have a limit, I don't want the drive up the prices).
Anyway, if someone is in town and is somewhat like minded, message me a,nd we can go out looking together.
CK thanks for asking and this is a great question! Rather than add zero value to your question like this Nypher guy likes to do. I will actually help you.
If you are traveling to CTG for your first time, the Walled City or Boca Grande would be best if you want to be close to the action. The Walled City will have a lot of street walkers once the sun goes down and night clubs. You can also check out Club Omnia or Club Cattleya (the new Dolce Vita) in the Walled City.
If you stay in Boca Grande I would suggest hitting up Playa Hollywood (Hollywood Beach) during the day and hitting the streets of Boca Grande at night. There are usually working women walking around everywhere.
AirBnB is typically better but you need to make sure the place is guest friendly which is harder and harder to find nowadays. Check your DMs and I will send you some places that are good to stay at.Thanks, man,
Send me that list of Air BNB's. I got my tickets, I just got to get the place now. The longer I wait the more I miss out. LOL.
WanderingMan
10-29-24, 06:48
The clock tower area has dozens of police and very few girls. The police seem to be chasing off the girls in that area. The streets inside the walls near the clock tower have quite a few girls walking around and some even approached us. That said, there were police officers everywhere on those streets and some were even walking down the street taking the entire street width about fifteen abreast.
CtgCharlieBoy1
10-30-24, 22:20
Does anyone know if the caliwood bar on hollywood beach is open again??This place is a staple on Hollywood Beach and yes it is still open. From what I understand the new mayor is cracking down on the beach, there are police there, and it closes at 6 PM everyday. I heard the beach was closed a few weeks ago entirely but Caliwood is 100% still there and so are the chicas.
Michael1967
10-31-24, 23:53
This place is a staple on Hollywood Beach and yes it is still open. From what I understand the new mayor is cracking down on the beach, there are police there, and it closes at 6 PM everyday. I heard the beach was closed a few weeks ago entirely but Caliwood is 100% still there and so are the chicas.I'm in Cartagena right now and probably did the stupidest thing ever. I walked from my Airbnb in El Cabrero to Hollywood Beach. I've been here a few times now and had never been to Hollywood Beach, so since it has been meihere, I thought I'd check it out.
My first act of stupidity was choosing to walk. I do walk a little to stay healthy and figured that the 3+ miles walk would be good for me. That would be fine if I wasn't in such a miserably hot place. I brought a half gallon of water with me which was gone after mile 2. I literally thought I was going to die but I was completely soaked in sweat and couldn't get into someone's Uber without thoroughly pissing them off.
So, I get to Hollywood Beach. Disappointing is an understatement. That place sucked. I was harassed to no end. People wanting to find me chicas, to sell me illegal substances, massages from gross women to food you couldn't pay me to eat. It was constant and unending. As far as people (and I'm sorry if this offends some of you) it was basically groups of trashy men leering at the few women that were there whose bikinis probably would have looked great on them about 30 - 40 lbs ago. I understand everyone has a "type" but I think the vast majority of us would not have found the women attractive. Also, I shouldn't have to say this, but men, socks and sandals should never occur. Socks and sandals on the beach is simply stupid.
Which gets me back to my 3rd bit of stupidity. I lasted about 15 minutes at the beach and figured ID relax and have a drink before I Uber back. I somehow got turned around and ended up walking circles around Bocagrande. So the tally:
5. 4 miles walking (per my phone).
0 hot women; about 15-20 total.
About 100 men leering at them.
3 hours wasted.
Never again.
Other than that it has been pretty productive. Went to a couple massage places for a great massage with happy ending. They have to work on their marketing though. The message with happy ending is $50-80 and during the massage, the try and upsell sex for $100 more; in one case it was $100 for a BJ and $200 for sex. I didn't tell her, but for that much money, I can just close my eyes and pretend the happy ending is a BJ or sex, the result is going to be the same.
Went to the strip club last night, it's a good time. There are rooms in the back for sex and it's 450 mil pesos for sex. Prices for drinks are similar to the prices in the walled city.
Also, has a woman back to my room each night.
Monday was a really, really cute 19 YO I found on mileroticos. $60/ HR to my room. As with all of the younger ones, she was lame. Was "ticklish" and really couldn't do much with her because she was "too ticklish". Eventually booted her from the room (nicely). It was $60 and I don't have the energy to deal with BS.
Tuesday, ran into a natural redhead in the street. Texted her at 3 am and she literally was at my door within 5 minutes $100 + 20 mil pesos can. As expected with a redhead, she could fuck.
Wednesday, after strip club passed someone that I saw at one of the nightclubs in the street. She was drunk. Immediately latched on to me and we had incredible drunken sex until she demanded that I do her doggy. I'm going to be honest. I'm short and old. I can do doggy if they are 4-5 inches shorter than me. Otherwise, I have to get in these weird positions and get cramps and shit. I'll do prone bone. Doggy, too painful. So, she started arguing with me and I ended the session. One thing I love about Latin America is that if you don't finish, they take it personally. She kept demanding I get back and finish and I'm like, "nope, I'm done.". She angrily got dressed and left. I did give her a 50 mil pesos tip and her attitude changed (but I normally tip 100 pesos).
One thing I got from all three girls is that they have to fight with guys to get their money. All three said positive things when they saw I had their money out for them before we started. They all basically said American men always want to argue about prices after they are done. I know the guys that do that shit won't care, but this work ain't fun for them. They have families. $100 ain't shit in the US give them their money.
I shouldn't have to say this, but men, socks and sandals should never occur. Socks and sandals on the beach is simply stupid.
One thing I got from all three girls is that they have to fight with guys to get their money. ... They all basically said American men always want to argue about prices after they are done. They have families. $100 ain't shit in the US give them their money.1. Men and women from up north wear sandals only a few times / days of each year. As a result the sandal digs into their soft skin of the foot. The socks are worn to protect their feet from the roughness of the sandal, which they have not broken in yet. Generally, they wear socks for themselves and their comfort, not for your viewing pleasure. My deceased mother was one who wore socks in her sandals, and she explained the reason. Now you know. In addition, the socks absorb foot sweat and perspiration in a very hot climate, keeping the bottom of their sandal soft and wick the moisture away from their foot. And they do not give a shit what you think about their foot comfort, so why are you complaining about them! You, my friend, are the one they think are stupid. Touche.
2. Answer a. Ask Obama's security detail why they all got fired. The women did not discuss price when they agreed to spend the night and had to argue about about the money in the morning. They thought they were worth more than the security detail though and complained to the police. Answer be. Many women do not perform as agreed. They are quick to promise everything, then in the room they go straight for your frig / mini bar food and drinks, like its free for them to take whatever they please without having to ask. Then the women refuse to do BBBJ, which should be basic. If no BBBJ right away, I suggest they leave right away empty handed, and they normally comply. Answer see. If you feel sorry for the hoe and her family, then you should be a social worker and not a monger. You are a "Savahoe". Yes that's the term for someone who wants others to feel sorry for the hoe. Why don't you bring some of your hard earned money from the US and give $100 freely to Savahoe or two.
Mr Enternational
11-01-24, 12:53
From what I understand the new mayor is cracking down on the beach, there are police there, and it closes at 6 PM everyday. Cracking down on what? Every beach that I have been to in Colombia has police and closes at 6 pm. That has nothing to do with any cracking down.
Mr Enternational
11-01-24, 13:18
They all basically said American men always want to argue about prices after they are done. I know the guys that do that shit won't care, but this work ain't fun for them. They have families. $100 ain't shit in the US give them their money.What something is or is not in the USA has nothing to do with what something is or is not in Colombia. When I am in other countries I think about that country's currency. Dollars or what something would cost somewhere else comes nowhere near my mind.
In Colombia it costs 40,000 pesos to keep a child all night. If some chick tells you she needs to pay a babysitter 300,000 or even 100,000 that may sound good if you were in USA, but you are not in USA and that person would be either playing you for a fool or is playing the role of a hooker without trying to come out and say she is a hooker.
Just ask normal people how much things cost if you do not know and use that as a guide. I have been in some parts of Colombia and hired drivers all day for $40 after negotiating. I did not say the first 10 minutes in the USA would be $40 so I should be happy to give them $100 in Colombia.
Michael1967
11-01-24, 17:03
What something is or is not in the USA has nothing to do with what something is or is not in Colombia. When I am in other countries I think about that country's currency. Dollars or what something would cost somewhere else comes nowhere near my mind.
In Colombia it costs 40,000 pesos to keep a child all night. If some chick tells you she needs to pay a babysitter 300,000 or even 100,000 that may sound good if you were in USA, but you are not in USA and that person would be either playing you for a fool or is playing the role of a hooker without trying to come out and say she is a hooker.
Just ask normal people how much things cost if you do not know and use that as a guide. I have been in some parts of Colombia and hired drivers all day for $40 after negotiating. I did not say the first 10 minutes in the USA would be $40 so I should be happy to give them $100 in Colombia.My point is that if you agree to X dollars then pay them X dollars. Don't wait until you're done and make up excuses for not paying the full amount. Do you do you go to restaurants and decide how much you want to pay after you eat? Do you go to the barber and start arguing about the price you agreed on after it done? Then why is it okay here? It's not $100 bucks or $50 bucks or whatever locals pay, it's the fact you agreed to a price and then went back on your word after she did her job. That's simply shitty and inexcusable.
Mr Enternational
11-01-24, 17:22
My point is that if you agree to X dollars then pay them X dollars. Don't wait until you're done and make up excuses for not paying the full amount.I agree with that. But as HH pointed out, it is most of the time these chicks that change the deal or do not make a deal, but still have expectations on what you should give.
It is like if you ask for cheese on your burger and you pay for cheese on your burger, then the cashier comes and says no cheese for you. I do not know many people that would say nevermind and just walk out of the door having paid for something and not getting it.
There was also a time I was in Dominican Republic buying fish and I kept asking for a price and the guy kept saying do not worry about it. When I finished eating, he came with a price double of what it actually costs anywhere else. I told him F you and paid the price I knew it to be everywhere else.
Michael1967
11-02-24, 01:48
I agree with that. But as HH pointed out, it is most of the time these chicks that change the deal or do not make a deal, but still have expectations on what you should give.
It is like if you ask for cheese on your burger and you pay for cheese on your burger, then the cashier comes and says no cheese for you. I do not know many people that would say nevermind and just walk out of the door having paid for something and not getting it.
There was also a time I was in Dominican Republic buying fish and I kept asking for a price and the guy kept saying do not worry about it. When I finished eating, he came with a price double of what it actually costs anywhere else. I told him F you and paid the price I knew it to be everywhere else.I do get what you're saying. I think I mentioned before that I live in Seattle. A fat ugly woman with a shitty attitude is $300. Even the crackheads are charging $350. To get anything like you see here you are easily upwards of $500. So, when I get an attractive 19 YO, that is "ticklish" for $60. I think I still got a hot 19 YO, who won't let me do anything but fuck her, then it's just $60. I have zero issues walking over $60. Sometimes I get screwed over, but in Latin America it's really rare that I encounter that. At least for me, most women I encounter seem to hold up their end of the bargain. I mentioned drunk chick on Wednesday who kept insisting I do doggy when I didn't want to. When I ended the session, she was adamant that I finish and argued with me for about 5 minutes before she got dressed and left angry that I didn't leche. Shit, at home, she would've ran out the door before I changed my mind.
I think when I'm in Sosua service is a little worse. But shit I'm paying $40-50 bucks. At that price, just hold still and I'm good.
There was also a time I was in Dominican Republic buying fish and I kept asking for a price and the guy kept saying do not worry about it. When I finished eating, he came with a price double of what it actually costs anywhere else. I told him F you and paid the price I knew it to be everywhere else.Watch out for trips to the Island off the coast of Cartagena and do not order any fish dinners. Is the island called Baru?
They do not have menus with prices. When you are going to leave the island they will charge you about 10 X the regular price. And the Colombian girl you are with will always support the Colombians and tell you to pay them whatever they ask. Bad experience and memories. We learn from experience.
WanderingMan
11-02-24, 18:07
I think when I'm in Sosua service is a little worse. But shit I'm paying $40-50 bucks. At that price, just hold still and I'm good.The women in Colombia are worth quite a bit more than those in Sosua, for many reasons, according to Thomas.
I feel much safer when in Sosua however the quality of the girls is not good. A 8 is very hard to find.
Cartagena has the physical appearance of a much more modern destination but once night arrives it has sketchier feel with corrupt cops and aggressive street hustlers.
The girls are prettier in Cartegena -- I'm glad I got to experience it but I would not return.
CtgCharlieBoy1
11-04-24, 20:15
Cracking down on what? Every beach that I have been to in Colombia has police and closes at 6 pm. That has nothing to do with any cracking down.The beach was shut down all day for 3 or 4 days in a row the last time I went to CTG which was not that long ago. "Crack down" meaning closing, more police presence, and the mayor focusing on moving the chicas to different areas. I am speaking from the standpoint from someone who has been to CTG recently.
The beach was shut down all day for 3 or 4 days in a row the last time I went to CTG which was not that long ago. "Crack down" meaning closing, more police presence, and the mayor focusing on moving the chicas to different areas. I am speaking from the standpoint from someone who has been to CTG recently.What dates was the beach closed and which sections? Was it just that area by Kiosk #4 or did it extend all the way up to Boca Grande Mall? The last 3 times I was there they were closing sections due to laying what looked like culvert pipe and as a result everyone was pushed down more to Kiosk #4, it had nothing to do with cracking down, just construction.
The increased police presence is part of the Titan24. They are on the beach checking IDs at random to ensure the girls there have permission to be in the country, the vendors have a permit to sell items and to catch the usual suspects who like to request services from minors due to after the curfew was put in place to keep them from hanging outside of Space and Delirium in Centro at night all the minors went to Playa Hollywood being more of a nuisance as now they will come up and tap you while you try to eat.
They are trying to move the chicas into a "tolerance zone" outside the walls, most are assuming it will be in El Bosque but that area is not exactly tourist friendly and lack the police presence to ensure safety.
I feel much safer when in Sosua however the quality of the girls is not good. A 8 is very hard to find.
Cartagena has the physical appearance of a much more modern destination but once night arrives it has sketchier feel with corrupt cops and aggressive street hustlers.
The girls are prettier in Cartegena -- I'm glad I got to experience it but I would not return.The girls in Sosua have gotten adjusted to social media. The good-looking ones no longer have to come outside to earn money when they have multiple men sending them money. Now the majority of women walking around are overweight in yoga pants looking like turkeys. The Venezuelans and Colombians are going to DR and giving them hard competition.
Hi guys, I'm planning to come to Cartagena soon and I'm planning to meet some girls I talk to on tinder so they can spend 2 weeks with me.
I wanted to know if STDs are very common here and if it's possible to get them tested because I would like to have sex without condoms with them.
Hi guys, I'm planning to come to Cartagena soon and I'm planning to meet some girls I talk to on tinder so they can spend 2 weeks with me.
I wanted to know if STDs are very common here and if it's possible to get them tested because I would like to have sex without condoms with them.What happened to all the advice that was given to you in February?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2896310&viewfull=1#post2896310
Yes you can get them tested or ask then to get a test and bring it with them but they can just fake that so you may have to go to the clinic with them or just use protection.
Please don't tell me that you been talking to these girls on tinder all this time then planning to spend 2 weeks consistently with them without knowing if there's any physical chemistry in person. Have you video called them to verify they are exactly like their pictures or actually girls and not a pimp? Also you said "soon". I'm warning you, if this is your first time to Colombia you do not want to go there close to Christmas season, if you insist on going then be on high alert at all times or you just might make someone really happy they were able to buy gifts for all their family members by reliving you of all your valuables.
Do not have these girls stay with you if you don't know them, it is extremely risky especially if you're a first timer.
We all want to have fun but #1 priority is to make it home.
MongerHunger
11-09-24, 09:09
I wanted to know if STDs are very common here and if it's possible to get them tested because I would like to have sex without condoms with them.Here we go again.
What happened to all the advice that was given to you in February?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2896310&viewfull=1#post2896310
Yes you can get them tested or ask then to get a test and bring it with them but they can just fake that so you may have to go to the clinic with them or just use protection.
Please don't tell me that you been talking to these girls on tinder all this time then planning to spend 2 weeks consistently with them without knowing if there's any physical chemistry in person. Have you video called them to verify they are exactly like their pictures or actually girls and not a pimp? Also you said "soon". I'm warning you, if this is your first time to Colombia you do not want to go there close to Christmas season, if you insist on going then be on high alert at all times or you just might make someone really happy they were able to buy gifts for all their family members by reliving you of all your valuables..Your a way nicer man then me, he would have not liked my answer, but I'm in good mood today and decided not to waste my time! But good to know there is still great guys around if anything ever needed bud!
MongerHunger
11-09-24, 16:45
What happened to all the advice that was given to you in February?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2896310&viewfull=1#post2896310..Wow! He was already given advice on the very thing that he's asking again about now in this forum and he also posted the exact same question in the Medellin thread.
I live in Shoreline, WA and I can tell you this Auroa Ave can take you right into my city. And a couple things I want to point out I never gotten a $500 price quote from a attractive looking chick on AA. The highest price quote I got was $300 for either a bbj with full service from a smoking hot blonde or bare sex from a smoking hot chick. Druggies charge me $80 for sex. However, for $20 more I can get it on with a hot chick who doesn't get high.
There's no need to be paying $100 bucks in a garbage country such as Colombia even think about this they charge their men anywhere between $20-$25 while you're paying 4-5 times the price! Personally I wouldn't feel sympathy nor honored from a prostitute who sits in my room and whines about guys don't want to pay her $100 and she's glad she met me "some guy who's willing to pay those rates!" At the end of the day those women could careless for me nor you because their job is too get all the money they can for their padrote. Then.
My point is that if you agree to X dollars then pay them X dollars. Don't wait until you're done and make up excuses for not paying the full amount. Do you do you go to restaurants and decide how much you want to pay after you eat? Do you go to the barber and start arguing about the price you agreed on after it done? Then why is it okay here? It's not $100 bucks or $50 bucks or whatever locals pay, it's the fact you agreed to a price and then went back on your word after she did her job. That's simply shitty and inexcusable.
I'm glad this website exists I visited Cartagena earlier this year with my girl but saw nothing more than just BBL heaven. However, I did see some chicks that was natural and I was hoping to return back and get some content made. Which eventually led me to getting a ticket to return back here in late November. Unfortunately I'm in the process of getting a damn refund, limited guess friendly accommodations, less girls, more guys with aggressive peddlers it's literally no point in me to comeback. I'll just give Medillin a shot next year.
They are getting the Christmas money early. Learn from others mistakes.
At what point did these guys think this was a good idea to invite 4 girls they just met back to the AirBB. Lmfaoo!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCSmbb7vVhf/?img_index=2
Stay safe out there!
Too funny. Dudes are still doing this and getting got. Pre-Obama Cartagena was the best!!
They are getting the Christmas money early. Learn from others mistakes.
At what point did these guys think this was a good idea to invite 4 girls they just met back to the AirBB. Lmfaoo!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCSmbb7vVhf/?img_index=2
Stay safe out there!
You are correct about the purpose of this site, or at least the intended purpose; however, the videos on Mentuition merely look like infomercials to subscribe to their paid site. They know a lot of information about things like guest friendly accommodations but only offer the information if you're a paying member.I'm not a fan of then, I came across them as I researched my 1st CTG trip. His advice on price was to just pay $100 (usd) up front & don't haggle, if you haggle then you're a "brokie". The girl he girl he posted was a mid 30's fat MILF, so the consensus in chat was that its $125-$150 a hot one. When I got to CTG I learned that price set was pretty off & it wasn't hard to get better rates (I already had exp in Colombia, Mexico so I had a feeling that was poor advice).
First off, don't pay in USD, makes you a mark. Two, it wasn't hard to negotiate to 250-300 k cop if you have restraint, & these were the Dolce Vita girls too. Their advice is driving up offered prices for the new guys.
Also I met his recurrent guest the black dude with the glasses & chinstrap. His real personality & how he acts with the girls is pretty corny & overpaying, so I cut from their scene quick. They're not as bad as the hood dudes from ATL, PHI, MIA visiting, & can be entertaining somewhat to just hear relevant info, the production value is good, but beyond a 1st trip theyre redundant.
Mr Enternational
11-13-24, 20:12
I'm not a fan of then, I came across them as I researched my 1st CTG trip. His advice on price was to just pay $100 (usd) up front & don't haggle, if you haggle then you're a "brokie". The girl he girl he posted was a mid 30's fat MILF, so the consensus in chat was that its $125-$150 a hot one. When I got to CTG I learned that price set was pretty off & it wasn't hard to get better rates (I already had exp in Colombia, Mexico so I had a feeling that was poor advice).
First off, don't pay in USD, makes you a mark. Two, it wasn't hard to negotiate to 250-300 k cop if you have restraint, & these were the Dolce Vita girls too. Their advice is driving up offered prices for the new guys.Look at it this way. Some guys are professional mongers and there are other guys who are just having fun on holiday. I learned the lesson when I went down for my cousin's birthday in July with a bunch of his friends. They do not go from place to place on holiday and mongering all the time, so they saw the $100-$125 for 1 hour as a bargain, where a guy like me saw it as a total ripoff.
Also people from the developed western world are not used to haggling. It feels weird to them and they are used to seeing the price as the price. Then, like some people in a traveling facebook page that I am on said, they go to developing countries and feel sorry for people and do not mind paying the asking price. Even in these threads we have had mongers say, they need it more than me. So unfortunately you are always going to have people with the cheaper than home mentality, even though iin actuality, it is an astronomical price for the locale.
First off. Thanks to all of you and all the posts to help me navigate. First trip coming up in Jan. Bogota, Med and the Cartagena. Very excited.
Question, do I stay on the beach in BocaGrande or Getsamani to be closer to the action? I typically like the massage places and if there are any girl houses here that would be great too.
Any advice will be appreciated!
Mr Enternational
11-14-24, 14:50
Question, do I stay on the beach in BocaGrande or Getsamani to be closer to the action? I typically like the massage places and if there are any girl houses here that would be great too.What action? Massage places? Girl houses? Have you actually read the forum?
Black Page
11-14-24, 18:47
What action? Massage places? Girl houses? Have you actually read the forum?I think RTFF is too short for vBulletin, so you had to elaborate further.
Look at it this way. Some guys are professional mongers...I get what you are saying, but let's be clear. The girls are the professionals and the guys are, at best, knowledgeable and discerning customers.
Elvis 2008
11-15-24, 11:33
Also people from the developed western world are not used to haggling. It feels weird to them and they are used to seeing the price as the price. Then, like some people in a traveling facebook page that I am on said, they go to developing countries and feel sorry for people and do not mind paying the asking price. Even in these threads we have had mongers say, they need it more than me. So unfortunately you are always going to have people with the cheaper than home mentality, even though iin actuality, it is an astronomical price for the locale.Most of the time in CTG now I am using Didi over Uber. The waiting time seems much less. Still, there are times we need to get a cab back in places where it takes a Didi or Uber a long time to respond. In one of our most popular dining places, my gal will not pay more than 12 k COP for a cab. I will even be like 15 is okay, and she will not do it. Even when the cabbies try to get 20 k from her when the ride is over, she will not pay it and say, "No, it is 12 k" and just give them that. The funny part is the cabbies react like they have no rights at all. They have not argued with my gal at all.
The other day my gal showed me an IG post. Apparently, an American tourist was ripped off by a Cabbie and called that tourist hot line and wanted the Cartagena mayor to verbally berate the cabbie. My gal did not like that. It was like the locals had to bend over too hard to accommodate the tourists.
Thing is you have stories like the guy Dubliner posted here and the American Secret Service where when the women were not satisfied with what they were paid, and the authorities took the side of the woman with disastrous results. So if you feel you have to pay a little more to not run into a situation like that, guys think it might be worth it for that piece of mind.
But now if a cabbie tried to say a 12 k fare was 20 k, I would be like, "No, it is 12 K" and leave the money on the seat and get the fuck out. Honestly, I think the locals respect you more if you are like that. The cabbies are almost scared if you accuse them of ripping you off.
If I went back into the hooker game, I guess than I would need to talk to the locals and see what recourse the women had if they pulled a "I said 800 k not 200 k" stunt. My guess is the women do not have much recourse if you threw 200 k on the floor and said, "Nah, we agreed on 200 k" and walked out, but the problem is even in the USA, you have crack hookers being made out to be trafficking victims and are the ones with all the rights. I am seeing Colombian women do not have much in the way of rights despite Colombia trying to portray itself as tough on trafficking.
Black Page
11-15-24, 12:52
I am just back from CTG. It was planned to be a 4N trip, but due to Avianca madness I had to reduce it to 2N. I spent lot of time in BOG, including so many hours wasted at El Dorado. The only good thing is that cancelled flights allowed me to pay a visit also to Santa Fe.
I am happy to confirm the Reloy square is free from barriers, there is a police van but they don't play the siren (Gosh! What was the purpose if not breaking the ears of people, all people, men, women, families, regular vanilla tourists?? How could police be so stupid to think that breaking the ears of people with a siren increases security? *) and things are pretty much as before, EXCEPT:
1) There are no more clubs / bars meant to meet girls. No more Space, LDV, whatever (my memories of Golden Times date back to FABULOUS ELEKTRA, the best place of my life in the whole Latin America). Only bars full of regular tourists, good for music and drinks. This is bad. I loved the vibe of bars full of WGs.
2) There are many sexy working girls, but walking around the walled city within say 3-4 blocks from Reloy. Yes, they can be at Reloy, but not many and seldom standing. They stop for a while, then walk away, otherwise police comes to question (although I have seen that only once). Now, the way to meet girls is WALKING. The more you walk, the more you see. If you don't see and approach many, the probability to meet one girl of interest is small. Be fit guys. Don't be lazy. Walk.
3) The quality of girls (at least when I was there) is nothing good as before. I met in CTG the most stunning LA (Latin America, not Los Angeles) girls of my life! Now, most girls look veteran, chubby, silicon, just rough, whatever makes them not a model type. Say less then 5% attracted my attention, but in practice I have approached less than that. Over two nights, I remember just 3 that I liked to the point of thinking "I wish this be mine":
- 1 young apparently new to the job, who of course ran away from me (if a girl is young and sexy, in CTG she can find a handsome man who ALSO gives money. I am an average middle age guy);
- 1 model type with braces, who was adamantine in requesting condom for everything including oral (not my cup of tea, see below);
- 1 young, first time on the job, sexy, who first left me with her older friend then later came back to me. This last one is the single girl I have taken with me to hotel over the two nights. A nice girl indeed! I wish I had more days to spend in CTG.
4) All girls I have asked were apparently adamantine in requesting condom also for oral. WTF! This is new! I am not going to pay 300k-400k for playing plastic. One seriously offered to use the hand without condom. She seemed serious thinking it was an offer of potential interest to mitigate my disappointment for CBJ. Only two agreed for BBJ, and I took the second. Nevertheless, she was not good in blowing, although very sexy and unspoiled. She claimed I was her first man on her new job in CTG to make some money.
5) Several girls propositioned me with an amount in DOLLARS (80 and upwards), not pesos. WTF!! This is the best sign that gringos have spoiled the place.
Nena, what do you do with dollars?? "I change them to pesos". Then why you ask dollars?? "I don't know, most men have dollars...".
After leaving the dollar bullsh behind, most common prices requested were 300k upwards.
I will be back in January. I am curious to see if the situation will improve.
(*) In CTG, the silly Alcalde (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2890538&viewfull=1#post2890538) must have given clear instructions to the police to waste time in pointless actitivities. A morning, a helicopter passed along the beach of Laguito playing the siren (!!) then broadcasting a not intelligible voice announcement with the loudspeaker. I was worried, considered the tropical rain and flooding of the past night which made the street not passable in Laguito, that they were raising an alarm for an incoming hurricane, a tsunami, a compelling emergency. NO, nothing. Later I asked the doorman and he smiled telling me that they do it often "para seguridad". WTF! What a waste of public money!
MongerHunger
11-15-24, 18:08
Cartagena use to be my spot. I have been all over that city, beaches and nearby islands on many occasions. I got to the point of burn out along with the changes and dip in quality. PreCovid were the best of times of course but afterwards things and quality went down. I have noticed that around the world when Gringos are prevalent in a certain area it fucks up the local culture and the locals try to emulate the Gringo culture, it raises prices on goods and services, hotels, food and generally everything. The girls are usually hardened pros and their services are usually lacking. Some will see you as a walking ATM. Now when I want to go to a beach town in Colombia I switch over to Santa Marta. A lot less Gringos, hardened pros, scams and touts. The people are more genuine and honest. When I went to Rodadero I don't think I seen one Gringo and I wasn't looking for them either. I avoid them honestly. I prefer a more local experience and I don't travel anywhere internationally to hang out with Gringos. I don't get it. The mid sized cities that are off the beaten path is the way to go in Colombia, especially if you want more of the culture and a more authentic experience. I usually spend a couple of days in Bogota before I leave Colombia because of my connecting flights and recently I seen some crazy shit go down in Santa Fe.
Santa Marta. A lot less Gringos, hardened pros, scams and touts. The women, scams and touts follow the gringos' money. We gringos are simply in the way, an obstacle for them to get around to get to the money.
I was in Cartagena two weeks ago and from my perspective nothing's really changed. I always do everything onilne and in fact rarely leave my apartment because it's far cheaper and efficient to have everything delivered than to go get it yourself. Up to and including girls. Going out walking around for hours looking for girls is such a waste of time. It's all online and cheaper.
And that said, I'll probably never return to Cartagena again. I just wanted to see it again because it was the first place I landed 3 years ago in Colombia. And yeah, nothing's changed except for that it's more expensive and girls are flakier. I used Tinder during the pandemic and girls were more interested in talking more than a few seconds. Now they reply once or twice and nothing beyond that. I had some good times and Colombia is still great but it makes more sense to move on. That said, you can still easily find girls even on Tinder for decent prices. I've never paid over 200 mil for a domicilio.
The price you pay isn't commensurate to what you get in Cartagena. Definitely not compared to the rest of Colombia. If it was a literal clone of Miami then sure. But we're talking shitty roads, weather, pushy vendors, annoying wannabe rappers, beaches, etc in comparison.
Also just saying but if you don't talk any Spanish or very little then the coast of Colombia is the worst place to learn or understand what they're saying. I'm now fluent but I learned the hard way, that's for sure. You will learn much faster in Bogota.
Here we have another set of individuals who decided to walk in Torices, the barrio that's directly across the bridge from Marbella. I know they are developing high rise condos there and selling them for cheap, but that neighborhood is a no go and at this close to Christmas its definite NO especially on foot. Do not stay in an AirBB there even if its in one of those newly built buildings.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCkUCsdPTXT/
Someone just got their Christmas presents early.
Stay safe out there!
Black Page
11-21-24, 06:17
Anyone knows what motels in Crespo among Las Dunas, La Cangreja, La Jaiba, are still open and operating, if any?
They were my best venue before COVID to take special girls. Google Maps reports them as still open, but I know by direct experience (I tried to go there last year by taxi) that at least La Jaiba was closed and terminated to operate.
Thanks.
But now if a cabbie tried to say a 12 k fare was 20 k, I would be like, "No, it is 12 K" and leave the money on the seat and get the fuck out. Honestly, I think the locals respect you more if you are like that. The cabbies are almost scared if you accuse them of ripping you off.
If I went back into the hooker game, I guess than I would need to talk to the locals and see what recourse the women had if they pulled a "I said 800 k not 200 k" stunt. My guess is the women do not have much recourse if you threw 200 k on the floor and said, "Nah, we agreed on 200 k" and walked out, but the problem is even in the USA, you have crack hookers being made out to be trafficking victims and are the ones with all the rights. I am seeing Colombian women do not have much in the way of rights despite Colombia trying to portray itself as tough on trafficking.I don't know about legal rights, but I suspect more of the girls than we realize have protection of some sort. You don't want her on her phone telling whoever that you ripped her off. Almost any girl with an apartment is with an agency that I am sure has "personal security" capabilities for its girls. In a country with prolific gang activity its naive to think that these girls are flying between cities and taking in millions of tourist dollars without someone getting a cut for "security".
Mr Enternational
11-22-24, 03:24
I don't know about legal rights, but I suspect more of the girls than we realize have protection of some sort. You don't want her on her phone telling whoever that you ripped her off. Almost any girl with an apartment is with an agency that I am sure has "personal security" capabilities for its girls. In a country with prolific gang activity its naive to think that these girls are flying between cities and taking in millions of tourist dollars without someone getting a cut for "security".Man those raggedy hoes are broke. They do not have any hitters on retainer. They are flying between cities because dudes are paying for the tickets and it is cheap as hell anyway. Even if you did not rip her off, what would be stopping her from telling any said muscle that you did? You are really overthinking hookers.
What a surprise. Passport Bros and weekend warriors have ruined the city. Everybody's talking about the drop in quality. What did you think was going to happen when you have a bunch of broke Passport Bros throwing money in the air, making Colombians look like poor beggars, going to the clubs smoking hookah, wearing stunners shades and bringing in gangster rap, Miami strip club culture, embarrassing the locals, and making a place that was supposed to look like, supposed to be good for vacation for families, a trash *****house. You all did this. You brought your strip club, I-want to-look-gangster-in-front-of-everybody culture, and the city shut it down.
FrugalGringo
12-06-24, 16:41
I came into Cartagena last week. Didn't have any pesos but took an Uber to Boca Grande where I had an Airbnb lined up near the beach. The exchange rate at the airport is a paltry 3800 something so I waited until I got to Boca Grande to withdraw money from an ATM which was downstairs. I checked with the owner prior to booking about "guests" had no problem with visitors as he was an American with a Colombian wife. My suggestion is to download WhatApp and meet ladies from the internet. I had no issues other than aggressive ladies offering massages on the beach. Avoid their "free masaje" you will end up in a nasty argument with them.
Too funny. Dudes are still doing this and getting got. Pre-Obama Cartagena was the best!!They had all the signs as victims, probably didn't speak Spanish, probably got a spot with no security or checkin ins and why is there 4 vs 2 ? Each time I hear these stories I always see the flaw in the exectution, it's hella sad really.
Hey guys,
I'll be in Colombia in a few weeks. Going to hit Medellin, 2 weeks in Cartagena, then wrap up in Medellin. Question, how is it in Cartagena post New Years? With all the changes I'm hearing it's harder to find girls on the street but I am curious to know if the price drops due to them spending everything for the holidays.
DoomBringer321
12-10-24, 04:14
She is a girl that he found on a site. We made a video together on YouTube. My homie Ryan keeps on trucking.
https://youtu.be/YV3EFhFESoI?si=ZA0FY7DV7mpSQYiy
I wanted to know if STDs are very common here and if it's possible to get them tested because I would like to have sex without condoms with them.Simple.
To be on the safe side assume that they may have got something and use protection.
Hey guys,
I'll be in Colombia in a few weeks. Going to hit Medellin, 2 weeks in Cartagena, then wrap up in Medellin. Question, how is it in Cartagena post New Years? With all the changes I'm hearing it's harder to find girls on the street but I am curious to know if the price drops due to them spending everything for the holidays.Everywhere there's passport bros are prices have doubled and even tripled. Yesterday one girl in cartagena charged in dollars demanded 300 for an hour and she wouldn't budge! That's double what you't pay in Atlanta or Miami. Why hop on a plane and pay for an overpriced Airbnb in a city where street & beach vendors charge triple the price of everything. On top of that the girl that I did smash last night was complaining about the price and I told her it was good money. She then pulls out here phone and shows me money transfers she's received from passport bros 2 of whom she's never MET! One works as a bus driver and the other in a warehouse. This woman is getting ran through all week and she's still receiving transfers from men she's never met.
Kalamaris87
12-12-24, 16:01
Hi guys,
Thinking about going to Cartagena around Christmas time 2025 and spending new year there. I now read some comments about CTg being more dangerous around that time. Is that true?
My friend and I are from Europe and our Spanish is really minimal and we never been to South America before. I try to gather as much information as possible, to be prepared.
Everywhere there's passport bros are prices have doubled and even tripled. Yesterday one girl in cartagena charged in dollars demanded 300 for an hour and she wouldn't budge! That's double what you't pay in Atlanta or Miami. Why hop on a plane and pay for an overpriced Airbnb in a city where street & beach vendors charge triple the price of everything. On top of that the girl that I did smash last night was complaining about the price and I told her it was good money. She then pulls out here phone and shows me money transfers she's received from passport bros 2 of whom she's never MET! One works as a bus driver and the other in a warehouse. This woman is getting ran through all week and she's still receiving transfers from men she's never met.I guess you have to go by the vibe, I speak enough Spanish and speak enough that it's comprehensible and if you don't negotiate a reasonable price then move on. I mean, there's dozen of ass out there and if one has an attitude then do you really want to pork her? Haven't been down to Cartagena yet but in Medellin, no female I had to negotiate with gave me a problem, one or two were chatty but I still payed below the US price.
If they ask in USD negotiate lower, if she won't budge then find another that will.
I guess you have to go by the vibe, I speak enough Spanish and speak enough that it's comprehensible and if you don't negotiate a reasonable price then move on. I mean, there's dozen of ass out there and if one has an attitude then do you really want to pork her? Haven't been down to Cartagena yet but in Medellin, no female I had to negotiate with gave me a problem, one or two were chatty but I still payed below the US price.
If they ask in USD negotiate lower, if she won't budge then find another that will.I speak fluent Spanish not what I'm sure is your broken Spanish. I taught English in Colombia for three years. And trust me the prices that you think you're getting a good deal on are prices that would've been considered outrageously high just a few years ago. Just a few years ago 200 mil was the standard. Anybody who's been coming to the city for years knows that. You're probably paying 2 to 3 times that thinking that it's a good price and guess what's going to happen in a few years. Some clowns going to come along and think paying $200 is a good price. Hoeflation.
The Tall Man
12-14-24, 16:52
Everywhere there's passport bros are prices have doubled and even tripled. Yesterday one girl in cartagena charged in dollars demanded 300 for an hour and she wouldn't budge! That's double what you't pay in Atlanta or Miami. Why hop on a plane and pay for an overpriced Airbnb in a city where street & beach vendors charge triple the price of everything. On top of that the girl that I did smash last night was complaining about the price and I told her it was good money. She then pulls out here phone and shows me money transfers she's received from passport bros 2 of whom she's never MET! One works as a bus driver and the other in a warehouse. This woman is getting ran through all week and she's still receiving transfers from men she's never met.How fucked up is that! Totally agree with you on every point.
The Tall Man.
GringoTigre
12-14-24, 19:16
If they ask in USD negotiate lower, if she won't budge then find another that will.If the quote or even mention dollars, counter with the same in pesos. Say something like "OK 200.000, listo, nos vamos" Maybe they come back "no pesos, dollares" then you say you don't have dollars, 250 pesos or nothing.
Or just walk away because talking USD and you will always lose. In my experience, that dynamic is much more common in CTG than anywhere else in the country. Of course owing to it being a tourist destination. It's incredibly rare to hear anyone give a price in BOG or MDE in USD.
Black Page
12-16-24, 00:20
Or just walk away because talking USD and you will always lose. In my experience, that dynamic is much more common in CTG than anywhere else in the country. Quoting USD => she is well used to deal with gringos => she considers and will treat you as a gringo => she expects you pay as a gringo in gringoland.
==>> Whenever I hear "dollars" from a girl, I run away.
Mr Enternational
12-16-24, 12:08
Quoting USD => she is well used to deal with gringos => she considers and will treat you as a gringo => she expects you pay as a gringo in gringoland.
==>> Whenever I hear "dollars" from a girl, I run away.I have talked to so many normal chicks about things concerning money that I no longer think this is the case. For instance, if I ask them how much is their electric bill every month, they will tell me in dollars. I say but it is Colombia, so why are you telling me in dollars? They will say because they think I do not understand pesos. So maybe there are so many tourists in those areas that did not understand pesos, that the hookers figured it was easier to tell them in dollars. I can just see a mf whipping out his calculator when a chick tells him 150 pesos, as I have seen my friends do in every other country when making purchases.
Black Page
12-16-24, 17:42
They will say because they think I do not understand pesos. So maybe there are so many tourists in those areas that did not understand pesos, that the hookers figured it was easier to tell them in dollars. That's not much different from my point. If a girl has a reason to believe she's more experienced than me, it is not a good situation for me. I wish to be in the opposite situation (although getting more and even more hard or impossible to find in CTG).
I stand on my point: Whenever I hear "dollars" from a girl, I run away.
Going to CTG in early February. Last time I traveled to CTG was 2 years ago and I know alot has changed. I slit time between at Hotel Oz in Boca Grande and an Airbnb in El Laguito last time. I definetly will not be staying in a hotel this time around. Question for the group: Is it better to stay in Getsemani or El Laguito for a Mongering and site seeing visit. I'm staying 5 days in total.
She is a girl that he found on a site. We made a video together on YouTube. My homie Ryan keeps on trucking.
https://youtu.be/YV3EFhFESoI?si=ZA0FY7DV7mpSQYiyIt looks like they are just walking around centro and the fancy mall in San Diego. At first I though it was 2 guys just hanging out and after watching the video I still think its just 2 guys hanging out.
Everywhere there's passport bros are prices have doubled and even tripled. Yesterday one girl in cartagena charged in dollars demanded 300 for an hour and she wouldn't budge! That's double what you't pay in Atlanta or Miami. Why hop on a plane and pay for an overpriced Airbnb in a city where street & beach vendors charge triple the price of everything. On top of that the girl that I did smash last night was complaining about the price and I told her it was good money. She then pulls out here phone and shows me money transfers she's received from passport bros 2 of whom she's never MET! One works as a bus driver and the other in a warehouse. This woman is getting ran through all week and she's still receiving transfers from men she's never met.Well yea, you're finally catching up. I've been reporting this since last year when I went to Carnival in Barranquilla.
These guys are trying to put girls on retainer to be their vacation girlfriends and they think the girl is being loyal to them but the girl is already hooked on that "get the bag" social media bullshit and she's getting multiple gringos sending money where she doesn't have to leave her house anymore. What these men did was hyper inflate everything and the older the chica gets the more she wants. A perfect example is look what happened in Sosua, exactly how those women became entitled and started acting like women from ATL, MIA and NYC is exactly how the girls in Cartagena are acting now. I knew it was time to find another place when I saw the uptick of girls wearing Yankee fitted and all white Airforce Ones, then came the triple nose ring nonsense.
Just about every girl down there running around with an iPhone Pro Max and that should immediately tell any gringo these girls are taking on the materialistic culture broadcasted on social media from western women and the more places that get access to reliable internet the worse this is going to become; Thailand is slowly getting there as well.
I have talked to so many normal chicks about things concerning money that I no longer think this is the case. For instance, if I ask them how much is their electric bill every month, they will tell me in dollars. I say but it is Colombia, so why are you telling me in dollars? They will say because they think I do not understand pesos. So maybe there are so many tourists in those areas that did not understand pesos, that the hookers figured it was easier to tell them in dollars. I can just see a mf whipping out his calculator when a chick tells him 150 pesos, as I have seen my friends do in every other country when making purchases.Am I wrong on this or not, why is Cartagena even talked about being a monger destination at all anymore? It's been spent for at least 5 years now, I can see if it's on a bucket list or something! But as far as hookers gooo, come on! And I've had lots lots of good times there in its prime!
Degenerate24
12-17-24, 16:16
Going to CTG in early February. Last time I traveled to CTG was 2 years ago and I know alot has changed. I slit time between at Hotel Oz in Boca Grande and an Airbnb in El Laguito last time. I definetly will not be staying in a hotel this time around. Question for the group: Is it better to stay in Getsemani or El Laguito for a Mongering and site seeing visit. I'm staying 5 days in total.Getsemani might be closer to the nightlife and action.
I have been saying this for years now. The "make it rain ninjas" fucked the game up at all the main spots in Colombia. Super high hyperinflation! However, to be real, CTG was always a tourist trap—higher prices than any other place.
Why guys are so scared to explore new cities, I will never understand. MAN UP!
Well yea, you're finally catching up. I've been reporting this since last year when I went to Carnival in Barranquilla.
These guys are trying to put girls on retainer to be their vacation girlfriends and they think the girl is being loyal to them but the girl is already hooked on that "get the bag" social media bullshit and she's getting multiple gringos sending money where she doesn't have to leave her house anymore. What these men did was hyper-inflate everything and the older the chica gets the more she wants. A perfect example is look what happened in Sosua, exactly how those women became entitled and started acting like women from ATL, MIA and NYC is exactly how the girls in Cartagena are acting now. I knew it was time to find another place when I saw the uptick of girls wearing Yankee fitted and all white Airforce Ones, then came the triple nose ring nonsense.
Just about every girl down there running around with an iPhone Pro Max and that should immediately tell any gringo these girls are taking on the materialistic culture broadcasted on social media from western women and the more places that get access to reliable internet the worse this is going to become; Thailand is slowly getting there as well.
Mr Enternational
12-17-24, 18:33
Am I wrong on this or not, why is Cartagena even talked about being a monger destination at all anymore? Nostalgia. That and a lot of people are afraid to go to a new place. Take the Sosua thread for instance. A lot of people are finally fessing up that it has gone downhill despite me saying this for the past 13 or so years. But they still keep going there with excuses such as there is a beach, and the food is good, and their cousin's ex-boyfriend has a place there.
I said years ago how it was like battered spouse syndrome. No matter how bad it gets, they will not leave it. Leche papi leche. $100 short time. I am from the school of giving them $25/ day and having to make them go home because they did not want to leave.
It is funny because now many other places they could have explored and gotten to know in that timeframe are also headed downhill. But I do not feel bad for them. Should have checked it out while it was hot, instead of swearing by the one place.
Mr Enternational
12-17-24, 18:37
However, to be real, CTG was always a tourist traphigher prices than any other place.Yep. That is why my first time there after going to other Colombian cities I said there was no need to go back. Cartagena is to Colombia what Phuket is to Thailand.
I have been saying this for years now. The "make it rain ninjas" fucked the game up at all the main spots in Colombia. Super high hyperinflation! However, to be real, CTG was always a tourist traphigher prices than any other place.
Why guys are so scared to explore new cities, I will never understand. MAN UP!Perhaps they do not want to end up like this openminded individual in the video below, who from the moment he got out the airport was way too trusting and immediately was getting set up when they put his bags in a random taxi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ref0dwDTwc
I know its a 30-minute-long video but jump directly to timestamp 3:50 and watch how hes lacking street smarts and not picking up on that they are hiding their face while being on the video and he thought it was best to stay there. Genius decided to go hang out with the locals by that abandon spot next to Mall Plaza. He then decided that since it looked like the Philippines it was safe as the Philippines JAJAJA. Even after his enlightenment at 6:10 I doubt he learned anything.
Am I wrong on this or not, why is Cartagena even talked about being a monger destination at all anymore? It's been spent for at least 5 years now, I can see if it's on a bucket list or something! But as far as hookers gooo, come on! And I've had lots lots of good times there in its prime!Keep the hookah-smoking, rapper wannabes in the DR and Colombia. I'm in an under-the-radar country at the moment paying $30 TLN with 8's and 9's. Some of us learned our lesson and we're not going to make posts or YouTube videos telling them where the next best spots are so they can come ruin it like they always do. Throwing money in the air, wearing rappers stunna shades, jordans and air forces, making videos about banging overpriced pros. I know some of these dudes and most of them don't even have $10 k in the bank. Imagine spending all your money on hookers when you barely have any savings. These are grown men we're talking about. Just pathetic. A bunch of loud mouth incels.
Elvis 2008
12-19-24, 00:28
Just about every girl down there running around with an iPhone Pro Max and that should immediately tell any gringo these girls are taking on the materialistic culture broadcasted on social media from western women and the more places that get access to reliable internet the worse this is going to become; Thailand is slowly getting there as well.LOL. Well, I had my gal buy a Starlink mini dish. We did not use it in Cartagena but a place North of Bogota. Still, the plan in Colombia is $60 a month for unlimited use which is half of what the USA is and why I had her buy the dish. Also, dish price was $300 in Colombia versus $600 in USA. Peak speeds in Colombia were 120 mb per second. Average was the 20 to 40 range, but the big thing is Starlink unlike the rural internet that was there was always working and reliable. The internet that was there was not working half the time.
In Cartagena, we always had issues with the internet breaking down until they started using wireless 5 g towers for the internet in our building and now our internet is fine.
As far as why Cartagena is getting ready to explode, the first part is if you go to Florida in December, January, or February, and think you are going to get warm, think again. I have frozen my ass off in Florida during those times. You are not safe in Florida until March.
In Cancun-Tulum, you get the mid 80's for highs and what used to be fantastic beaches. Tulum could compete with any beaches in the world with its white sand and crystal clear water. Thing is those beaches are now flooded with smells like ass seaweed. What shocked me is the airlines are now cutting service to Tulum's brand new airport.
On one of my flights to Cartagena, the flight was loaded with a group of fun loving and loud guys. I started talking to one of them and it turns out they were professionals on a bachelor party. They got a big airBNB where they could all hang out and hired a chef to cook for them. I thought about it and Cartagena really is the perfect place to have a bachelor party. You have hookers, casinos, decent restaurants and enough things to do for a week. You are guaranteed warm weather, seaweed free beaches, and do not have to worry about tropical storms or hurricanes. These guys wanted to get out of ice cold Chicago, and I was thinking how many guys in NYC, Philly, Boston, or DC are going to come to the same conclusion and fly to CTG. So the mayor's move to push the hookers underground and prices rising makes sense.
After just being in often cold and cloudy Bogota, it reminded me of how every woman I met and asked there would love to spend a few days in sunny and warm Cartagena. If you want a hot Colombian chick in Cartagena on the cheap, that IMO is the way to go. Hell, you might not even have to pay her if she likes you and you show her a good time. I started coming to Colombia five years ago and have never seen much I ever liked woman wise in Cartagena itself.
Perhaps they do not want to end up like this openminded individual in the video below, who from the moment he got out the airport was way too trusting and immediately was getting set up when they put his bags in a random taxi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ref0dwDTwc
I know its a 30-minute-long video but jump directly to timestamp 3:50 and watch how hes lacking street smarts and not picking up on that they are hiding their face while being on the video and he thought it was best to stay there. Genius decided to go hang out with the locals by that abandon spot next to Mall Plaza. He then decided that since it looked like the Philippines it was safe as the Philippines JAJAJA. Even after his enlightenment at 6:10 I doubt he learned anything.Are these the kind of dudes that are going to Cartagena LOL? He has to be the biggest dumbass I have ever seen LOL. As soon as the dudes were hiding their faces you csn tell something bad was about to happen. Why was he even with them, should have told them to fuck off and kept it moving. And why is he giving out US dollars to people. I wouldn't give out a fucking penny not even to a homeless person.
I'm curious how he still had his camera to be able to record after he was robbed tho because if they took everything I doubt they would leave him his camera or phone or whatever device he was recording with.
The whole story is probably just fictional. But if it is true he is incredibly stupid.
-Gabacho.
I'm not a passport bro but I do have a stupid question to ask. In countries such as Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua and even Costa Rica chicas are demanding on the average $130 for service and you got plenty of guys paying gringo prices for pussy and they're not passport bros at all. Hell even I remember visiting Cartagena with my wife I saw guys buying hookers jewelry and expensive hand bags and they were not passport bros. What makes you think that simps haven't messed the game up with give me's? It was a guy on this thread bragging about guys who whine about paying $100 are broke. And I think I was the only person who gay him some advice and I'm pretty sure he was neither a passport bro nor a bro bro period.
Everywhere there's passport bros are prices have doubled and even tripled. Yesterday one girl in cartagena charged in dollars demanded 300 for an hour and she wouldn't budge! That's double what you't pay in Atlanta or Miami. Why hop on a plane and pay for an overpriced Airbnb in a city where street & beach vendors charge triple the price of everything. On top of that the girl that I did smash last night was complaining about the price and I told her it was good money. She then pulls out here phone and shows me money transfers she's received from passport bros 2 of whom she's never MET! One works as a bus driver and the other in a warehouse. This woman is getting ran through all week and she's still receiving transfers from men she's never met.
I'm not a passport bro but I do have a stupid question to ask. In countries such as Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua and even Costa Rica chicas are demanding on the average $130 for service and you got plenty of guys paying gringo prices for pussy and they're not passport bros at all. Hell even I remember visiting Cartagena with my wife I saw guys buying hookers jewelry and expensive hand bags and they were not passport bros. What makes you think that simps haven't messed the game up with give me's? It was a guy on this thread bragging about guys who whine about paying $100 are broke. And I think I was the only person who gay him some advice and I'm pretty sure he was neither a passport bro nor a bro bro period.I've slept with countless women throughout these countries. The average spent was $50-75. But I speak fluent Spanish and I don't deal with hardened pros who get flown to Dubai, Paris, Barcelona by simps and walk around the brand new iPhone and fake tits. You need to understand that the average monthly salary in these places is anywhere from $250-$500. If you really believe the average place is $130 then you are clueless. And just because people don't want to pay the highest prices doesn't mean that they're broke. That means that they rather save their money for other things. Fighting to pay high prices for working girls is really insane.
Are these the kind of dudes that are going to Cartagena LOL? He has to be the biggest dumbass I have ever seen LOL. As soon as the dudes were hiding their faces you csn tell something bad was about to happen. Why was he even with them, should have told them to fuck off and kept it moving. And why is he giving out US dollars to people. I wouldn't give out a fucking penny not even to a homeless person.
I'm curious how he still had his camera to be able to record after he was robbed tho because if they took everything I doubt they would leave him his camera or phone or whatever device he was recording with.
The whole story is probably just fictional. But if it is true he is incredibly stupid.
-Gabacho.I saw his video, he was trying to make friends with the locals which was VERY stupid on his end and had a camera out and all. Brah, I will conversate with some people but talking too much and bringing too much attention to myself is a no no. Be smart, trust no one and tip your door man!
Mr Enternational
12-26-24, 15:42
Be smart, trust no one and tip your door man!To me those are opposing pieces of advice. (Be smart and tip your door man.) Why would I need to tip my doorman? Never done it before. Never seen a need to do it. Are other people living there tipping the doorman? Foreigners love giving away money.
Alex Deuce
12-26-24, 23:17
To me those are opposing pieces of advice. (Be smart and tip your door man.) Why would I need to tip my doorman? Never done it before. Never seen a need to do it. Are other people living there tipping the doorman? Foreigners love giving away money.My best guy was my doorman at the Airbnb. He took the ids and would not give them back until I came down or called him. Had zero issues in 10 years. Its not giving away money when they provide a service. Its like when you first get to a place you don't know. You pay the toutes to learn the game. When you learn the game you still tip one or two just to keep your knowledge of the area and people looking out for you tight.
Black Page
12-29-24, 15:46
To me those are opposing pieces of advice. (Be smart and tip your door man.) Why would I need to tip my doorman? If there is someone to tip, that is the doorman. I always give a tip to the doorman on first night. He will be your best "friend" to cover your shoulders, should that be needed.
To me those are opposing pieces of advice. (Be smart and tip your door man.) Why would I need to tip my doorman? Never done it before. Never seen a need to do it. Are other people living there tipping the doorman? Foreigners love giving away money.In my early days when I used to stay at places with 24 hour doormen / security I tipped when I needed them to look the other way or ignore certain things. Such as chica arrives without Cedula or the apartment / house has an occupancy limit and the chica shows up with a few friends and were clearly over the limit, trust me on this it helped big time at the Marina Club and Palmetto Sunset, places that I would never stay again now that I know better.
Other than that it was the basic of whenever we order food ill ask them if they want something and also order for them and on the last day I usually give them all the beers. But over the years all that has changed and I started only staying at places with nighttime security then no security at all and I prefer it that way. I just chill over in Getsemani or San Deigo and don't have to worry about anyone looking at whose coming and going.
Now that I think about it, I don't even know if what I did is considered tipping or just bribe money to break the rules jajaja.
Keep the hookah-smoking, rapper wannabes in the DR and Colombia. I'm in an under-the-radar country at the moment paying $30 TLN with 8's and 9's. Some of us learned our lesson and we're not going to make posts or YouTube videos telling them where the next best spots are so they can come ruin it like they always do. Throwing money in the air, wearing rappers stunna shades, jordans and air forces, making videos about banging overpriced pros. I know some of these dudes and most of them don't even have $10 k in the bank. Imagine spending all your money on hookers when you barely have any savings. These are grown men we're talking about. Just pathetic. A bunch of loud mouth incels.Can't really tell those degenerates nothing. The moment someone try to educate them on why they shouldn't do certain things in a foreign country its met with instant backlash with the same dumb responses, "stop pocket watching, stop hating, stop dick policing, etc". Then years later they come to the same conclusion and start saying how people messed it up when they themselves were part of the problem and opened the door for others to push new boundaries. When the behavior that was contained to Delirium, started spreading to Dolce and Space I knew it was only a matter of time. Dolce went from a no filming policy to having girls dance on the bar, on that new raised platform, hookah and money guns shooting stacks of 2 mil bills. Space turned up to a straight hookah bar and having girls dance on the bar then then the Sisters started showing up in there trying to "turn up". I remember right after the lockdown people kept saying how Cartagena was too big to be ruined like Sosua and people should never compare it to Sosua but surely enough with enough time those same exact people are now saying how Cartagena is ruined.
I'm not a passport bro but I do have a stupid question to ask. In countries such as Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua and even Costa Rica chicas are demanding on the average $130 for service and you got plenty of guys paying gringo prices for pussy and they're not passport bros at all. Hell even I remember visiting Cartagena with my wife I saw guys buying hookers jewelry and expensive hand bags and they were not passport bros. What makes you think that simps haven't messed the game up with give me's? It was a guy on this thread bragging about guys who whine about paying $100 are broke. And I think I was the only person who gay him some advice and I'm pretty sure he was neither a passport bro nor a bro bro period.Not exactly stupid question. Those are the questions that actually spark conversations.
The term "Passport Bro" has become a blanket label for any man that travels from a more developed country to a lesser developed one to take advantage of the currency exchange in order to get what they want weather its business opportunities, property ownership / rental, sex, or etc. The term originally was for Black American men but we all know how that goes when that specific demographic group of people does something and it starts trending other groups try to jump on it to try to be trendy as well. Currently to an outside observer there is hardly any difference between Passport Bro, Tourist, Backpacker, Digital Nomad, Permanant Resident, etc, people just like to use whatever label is currently trending. Back in the day the trending term was Blue Book Gentlemen, I'm constantly around many retired American military GenX and Boomers who married women from outside of America and the ones who still rocking the Yankee fitted, Jordans, in the sweat suit with 1 pant leg rolled up are now calling themselves Passport Bros, still trying to be down even though they travelling with the whole medicine cabinet in their carryon JAJAJA.
As for simps messing it up, yes, there are allot of awkward men with extra money who just don't know when they are being taken advantage of and they will get their pockets emptied until they hit that rage moment and start bashing all women for what some women do. As for buying the expensive jewelry and expensive handbag perhaps I can provide an alternative view as to why. I myself have brought girls expensive items such as Apple products and spent more time in ELLA watching them shop than I want to be. Are these gifts? No, to me its just another form of payment to one of my regulars that ill be spending allot of time with such as a week or 2 weeks, if its Apple, I bring the item with me, if she wants to go on a shopping spree then that's even better because I can track how much I'm charging and when it gets to the agreed limit for her services the shopping stops. For example chaica says she wants Air Pods, I calculate $250 max hit the apple store and bring them wit me, she come stay a weekend with me and she gets her AirPods. So from the outside looking in, we don't know exactly why that gringo is buying those expensive items for the girl but if it is gifts on top of what they already paid for services then their pockets, their choice. Just something to think about with an alternative view point as these girls are becoming more materialistic, I remember girls in Sosua use to do services for weaves, guys would pack a suitcase full of hair and dresses and they were good for a weekend.
As for the guys whining about paying $100 are broke, perhaps these are the type of guys who are accustomed to paying 5 times that amount for a fraction of the time with a woman whos not as good looking and got crazy miles on her. Before the migrant crisis I've seen what was in Tampa, Maimi, Houston, San Fran, NYC Metro Area, Chicago, DMV Metro Area, NOLA, etc, usually its all the major Blue cities and the price they wanted for 1 hour for what they offered was more than the price of a roundtrip plane ticket to DR. It made more sense to grab a few friends and leave the country for a long weekend in a 3 bedroom 3 bathroom AirBB and split it 3 ways. Also I've had too many back and forth with too many people in Sosua chat groups that say they pay a low price for a chica but they never show what the chica looks like or say what services the chica performed and its for a very good reason due to the chica being very un attractive or overweight. I've also been on the other side where I said I paid a low price for a girl and I was called out, I'm a man of facts so I provided pictures and the conversation of the agreement, and what they did was go out of their way to find the chica tried to get with her for the same price and when she declined they showed the chica the conversation I had with her, chica got pissed and blocked me. When I told my friend what happened he said I should have never opened my mouth, I learned.
Keep the hookah-smoking, rapper wannabes in the DR and Colombia. I'm in an under-the-radar country at the moment paying $30 TLN with 8's and 9's. Some of us learned our lesson and we're not going to make posts or YouTube videos telling them where the next best spots are so they can come ruin it like they always do. Throwing money in the air, wearing rappers stunna shades, jordans and air forces, making videos about banging overpriced pros. I know some of these dudes and most of them don't even have $10 k in the bank. Imagine spending all your money on hookers when you barely have any savings. These are grown men we're talking about. Just pathetic. A bunch of loud mouth incels.I agree. Keeping it on the DL. A lot of countries got ruined by gringo american dollars flowing freely.
MongerHunger
12-30-24, 08:01
Keep the hookah-smoking, rapper wannabes in the DR and Colombia. I'm in an under-the-radar country at the moment paying $30 TLN with 8's and 9's. Some of us learned our lesson and we're not going to make posts or YouTube videos telling them where the next best spots are so they can come ruin it like they always do. Throwing money in the air, wearing rappers stunna shades, jordans and air forces, making videos about banging overpriced pros. I know some of these dudes and most of them don't even have $10 k in the bank. Imagine spending all your money on hookers when you barely have any savings. These are grown men we're talking about. Just pathetic. A bunch of loud mouth incels.That's why it's good to travel off the beaten path from time to time because I don't want to see that shit and I avoid that ghetto shit.
SouthernOcean
12-31-24, 19:29
Headed back to Cartagena. Is the Soy Local Central Historico guest friendly. A guy on the hotel reviews made a point of saying it was but I am looking for experienced advice. Thanks.
Interstella
01-01-25, 17:40
Headed back to Cartagena. Is the Soy Local Central Historico guest friendly. A guy on the hotel reviews made a point of saying it was but I am looking for experienced advice. Thanks.Yes, but they want "those" guests to stop by the front desk where they will check ID and keep it until that guest leaves. No extra fees. The front desk was manned by two different guys around 35-45, who both were very easy going, and I think both of them were more concerned about the safety of the main registered guest than they are with presenting hurtles and blind rule following. They also want you to escort your guest out upon which they will return said ID to the guest.
SouthernOcean
01-02-25, 14:47
Yes, but they want "those" guests to stop by the front desk where they will check ID and keep it until that guest leaves. No extra fees. The front desk was manned by two different guys around 35-45, who both were very easy going, and I think both of them were more concerned about the safety of the main registered guest than they are with presenting hurtles and blind rule following. They also want you to escort your guest out upon which they will return said ID to the guest.Thank you.
SouthernOcean
01-02-25, 14:49
Last time I picked from the crowds in the bars and at the Clock Tower. This time, with the changes I have heard about, I think I will try the online services. Any recommendations?
MongerHunger
01-03-25, 15:49
Last time I picked from the crowds in the bars and at the Clock Tower. This time, with the changes I have heard about, I think I will try the online services. Any recommendations?If I were you, I would try another city all together. There are plenty of better options other than what you are going to settle for.
Man this is a well written post by an apparent genius guys like you need to post more often. You literally took what I was thinking to the next level.
Not exactly stupid question. Those are the questions that actually spark conversations.
The term "Passport Bro" has become a blanket label for any man that travels from a more developed country to a lesser developed one to take advantage of the currency exchange in order to get what they want weather its business opportunities, property ownership / rental, sex, or etc. The term originally was for Black American men but we all know how that goes when that specific demographic group of people does something and it starts trending other groups try to jump on it to try to be trendy as well. Currently to an outside observer there is hardly any difference between Passport Bro, Tourist, Backpacker, Digital Nomad, Permanant Resident, etc, people just like to use whatever label is currently trending. Back in the day the trending term was Blue Book Gentlemen, I'm constantly around many retired American military GenX and Boomers who married women from outside of America and the ones who still rocking the Yankee fitted, Jordans, in the sweat suit with 1 pant leg rolled up are now calling themselves Passport Bros, still trying to be down even though they travelling with the whole medicine cabinet in their carryon JAJAJA.
As for simps messing it up, yes, there are allot of awkward men with extra money who just don't know when they are being taken advantage of and they will get their pockets emptied until they hit that rage moment and start bashing all women for what some women do. As for buying the expensive jewelry and expensive handbag perhaps I can provide an alternative view as to why. I myself have brought girls expensive items such as Apple products and spent more time in ELLA watching them shop than I want to be. Are these gifts? No, to me its just another form of payment to one of my regulars that ill be spending allot of time with such as a week or 2 weeks, if its Apple, I bring the item with me, if she wants to go on a shopping spree then that's even better because I can track how much I'm charging and when it gets to the agreed limit for her services the shopping stops. For example chaica says she wants Air Pods, I calculate $250 max hit the apple store and bring them wit me, she come stay a weekend with me and she gets her AirPods. So from the outside looking in, we don't know exactly why that gringo is buying those expensive items for the girl but if it is gifts on top of what they already paid for services then their pockets, their choice. Just something to think about with an alternative view point as these girls are becoming more materialistic, I remember girls in Sosua use to do services for weaves, guys would pack a suitcase full of hair and dresses and they were good for a weekend.
As for the guys whining about paying $100 are broke, perhaps these are the type of guys who are accustomed to paying 5 times that amount for a fraction of the time with a woman whos not as good looking and got crazy miles on her. Before the migrant crisis I've seen what was in Tampa, Maimi, Houston, San Fran, NYC Metro Area, Chicago, DMV Metro Area, NOLA, etc, usually its all the major Blue cities and the price they wanted for 1 hour for what they offered was more than the price of a roundtrip plane ticket to DR. It made more sense to grab a few friends and leave the country for a long weekend in a 3 bedroom 3 bathroom AirBB and split it 3 ways. Also I've had too many back and forth with too many people in Sosua chat groups that say they pay a low price for a chica but they never show what the chica looks like or say what services the chica performed and its for a very good reason due to the chica being very un attractive or overweight. I've also been on the other side where I said I paid a low price for a girl and I was called out, I'm a man of facts so I provided pictures and the conversation of the agreement, and what they did was go out of their way to find the chica tried to get with her for the same price and when she declined they showed the chica the conversation I had with her, chica got pissed and blocked me. When I told my friend what happened he said I should have never opened my mouth, I learned.
Interstella
01-04-25, 23:35
Last time I picked from the crowds in the bars and at the Clock Tower. This time, with the changes I have heard about, I think I will try the online services. Any recommendations?So, I see that Cartagena gets shit on by a lot of members here, so here's my antithetical thoughts to that effect. I wouldn't go to Cartagena for a mongering trip, unless you are interested in what the street / bar scene has to offer there, as juxtaposed to what Cartagena also offers as a standard vacation spot. I went to Cartagena specifically for the street scene, amazing food, and overall pirate city / unique vibe. No traffic to deal with, no bullshit lady-drinks, no online bait & switch, etc. There are upsides to Cartagena when contrasted to Medellin and Bogota. However, Medellin would be a far better choice if you are looking for online and casa options in addition to what Lleras and Centro have to offer there. As for myself, I'm a bit of a hunter I suppose, and the street scene at Cartagena is perfect for that. Medellin's street scene is like shooting fish in a barrel comparatively, but with not so great food, air pollution, traffic, etc.
Not exactly stupid question. Those are the questions that actually spark conversations.
The term "Passport Bro" has become a blanket label for any man that travels from a more developed country to a lesser developed one to take advantage of the currency exchange in order to get what they want weather its business opportunities, property ownership / rental, sex, or etc. The term originally was for Black American men but we all know how that goes when that specific demographic group of people does something and it starts trending other groups try to jump on it to try to be trendy as well. Currently to an outside observer there is hardly any difference between Passport Bro, Tourist, Backpacker, Digital Nomad, Permanant Resident, etc, people just like to use whatever label is currently trending. Back in the day the trending term was Blue Book Gentlemen, I'm constantly around many retired American military GenX and Boomers who married women from outside of America and the ones who still rocking the Yankee fitted, Jordans, in the sweat suit with 1 pant leg rolled up are now calling themselves Passport Bros, still trying to be down even though they travelling with the whole medicine cabinet in their carryon JAJAJA.Now tell us about the pricing in major Red cities, like. Um. Wait. Are there any major Red cities?
Black Page
01-12-25, 23:07
I try again to ask my question, which I asked last November.
Anyone knows what motels in Crespo among Las Dunas, La Cangreja, La Jaiba, are still open and operating, if any?
They were my best venue before COVID to take special girls. Google Maps reports them as still open, but I know by direct experience (I tried to go there last year by taxi) that at least La Jaiba was closed and terminated to operate.
Thanks.
Are there any major Red cities?Indianapolis, Oklahoma City, Omaha, El Paso, San Antonio and Las Vegas.
Mojo Bandit
01-18-25, 23:08
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Mojo Bandit
01-18-25, 23:15
"World Travel 69 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. ".I sent a request to the admin to have my post you referred to in your message deleted.
Mojo Bandit
01-18-25, 23:25
I sent a request to the admin to have my post you referred to in your message deleted.FYI when I click on the map link in my post: it does not give me access it says I have to request the access.
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I sent a request to the admin to have my post you referred to in your message deleted.
World Travel 69
01-19-25, 19:09
Years ago you could post more.
I cleared It.
FYI when I click on the map link in my post: it does not give me access it says I have to request the access.
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I sent a request to the admin to have my post you referred to in your message deleted..
Had a day open up, so I'm taking a 3 day weekend trip, well 2 full days actually, to CTG. Arrive about 1 PM Friday, leave about 1 PM Sunday, so a full 48 hours for my first trip.
I'll be staying 300 meters from the Clock Tower, which seems like a good spot for my first trip, maneuvering around should be pretty easy.
Been to Medellin and Bogota many times, 1 trip 2 years ago to Cali, and last year a few to Cuba, Jamaica and Aruba.
Honestly, no plans, just going to wander around and see what I bump into. I'm 100% sure this will work, but if there's any spectacular things I should do in the walled city, apart from chicas, do let me know. Especially any great restaurants, etc.
Thanks!
Nomars777.
Mojo Bandit
01-23-25, 02:36
Had a day open up, so I'm taking a 3 day weekend trip, well 2 full days actually, to CTG. Arrive about 1 PM Friday, leave about 1 PM Sunday, so a full 48 hours for my first trip.
I'll be staying 300 meters from the Clock Tower, which seems like a good spot for my first trip, maneuvering around should be pretty easy.
Been to Medellin and Bogota many times, 1 trip 2 years ago to Cali, and last year a few to Cuba, Jamaica and Aruba.
Honestly, no plans, just going to wander around and see what I bump into. I'm 100% sure this will work, but if there's any spectacular things I should do in the walled city, apart from chicas, do let me know. Especially any great restaurants, etc.
Thanks!
Nomars777.You should always try to clear up whether you can bring chicas up to your apartment. A lot of buidlings are restrictive -.
Restaurants that are good.
If you like Italian. Di Silvio Trattoria.
CL. 29 #9 - 72, Getsemaní (copy and paste that into Google Maps).
Crepes and Waffles.
Two locations the one in the Old City; Pl. De San Pedro Claver #4 #31-24, El Centro.
World Wide Wes
01-23-25, 02:44
Hope you enjoy your upcoming trip. I always enjoy Mirador which is right as you enter the clocktower. The staff has always been great and I usually go there for lunch as they usually have a futbol game on. You could also go to their rooftop which gives you a full view of the clocktower scene. Another restaurant is Oudres which is more upscale and usually has a live performance you can enjoy while you eat. One more would be Cuzco Cocina which is a Peruvian restaurant that is amazing. You can't go wrong with either of these places and they are all great spots to bring a friend.
On another note. I'll be traveling to Aruba shortly and if you had any info about where to stay, guides, and St Nicolas info please share. I've asked on the Aruba thread and I'm getting crickets.
Had a day open up, so I'm taking a 3 day weekend trip, well 2 full days actually, to CTG. Arrive about 1 PM Friday, leave about 1 PM Sunday, so a full 48 hours for my first trip.
I'll be staying 300 meters from the Clock Tower, which seems like a good spot for my first trip, maneuvering around should be pretty easy.
Been to Medellin and Bogota many times, 1 trip 2 years ago to Cali, and last year a few to Cuba, Jamaica and Aruba.
Honestly, no plans, just going to wander around and see what I bump into. I'm 100% sure this will work, but if there's any spectacular things I should do in the walled city, apart from chicas, do let me know. Especially any great restaurants, etc.
Thanks!
Nomars777.
Had a day open up, so I'm taking a 3 day weekend trip, well 2 full days actually, to CTG. Arrive about 1 PM Friday, leave about 1 PM Sunday, so a full 48 hours for my first trip.
I'll be staying 300 meters from the Clock Tower, which seems like a good spot for my first trip, maneuvering around should be pretty easy.
Been to Medellin and Bogota many times, 1 trip 2 years ago to Cali, and last year a few to Cuba, Jamaica and Aruba.
Honestly, no plans, just going to wander around and see what I bump into. I'm 100% sure this will work, but if there's any spectacular things I should do in the walled city, apart from chicas, do let me know. Especially any great restaurants, etc.
Thanks!
Nomars777.And another good restaurant recommendation for somewhat high-end Colombian food is a place called Alma. I'd call it fine dining. It was really good.
Aruba options, I'll post over there.
Thanks for these recommendations, sounds like they're super close to where I'll be staying, which is convenient!
Hope you enjoy your upcoming trip. I always enjoy Mirador which is right as you enter the clocktower. The staff has always been great and I usually go there for lunch as they usually have a futbol game on. You could also go to their rooftop which gives you a full view of the clocktower scene. Another restaurant is Oudres which is more upscale and usually has a live performance you can enjoy while you eat. One more would be Cuzco Cocina which is a Peruvian restaurant that is amazing. You can't go wrong with either of these places and they are all great spots to bring a friend.
On another note. I'll be traveling to Aruba shortly and if you had any info about where to stay, guides, and St Nicolas info please share. I've asked on the Aruba thread and I'm getting crickets.
Hi there.
How's the situation in old town now. I heard / read about mass crackdown on bars / clock tower and some sort of locals, calling a 'moral police squad' type to harass you few months ago; is it still the same, have things recovered? I'm thinking about heading down end of Feb / early March and even heading to Rosario for a night or two. I haven't seen any updates from the 'crackdown' so thought I'd ask. Any thoughts on Rosario for a little RnR (maybe just one are if there's a chica) .
As a senior member who has contributed quite a bit in the past to this forum (but who has been living the the good husband married life for past 10 years and now have gotten bored), I'm hoping you guys give me a little slack with the RTFF for my question. I am looking at a last minute getaway trip to Cartagena this weekend. My last trip was in 2012- way before this place got popular for all the wrong reasons. I prefer the discos and wanted to know where the best discos are now for freelancers and what the opening "ask" is by the girls? Between not having enough privacy to RTFF for updated info and a short notice upcoming visit, I'm hoping someone will help me out.
Is "Tony #1" still at Hollywood beach?
TIA.
Mr Enternational
01-23-25, 23:17
Is "Tony #1" still at Hollywood beach?Yes. But why would you need him?
CaptainJavito
01-24-25, 02:12
Yo thanks for that fam good lookin! I saw the info over at Chicacheck before it went offline. Her Facebook was listed on there and is wide open. Slid in the DMs but no reply. I kinda feel sorry for old dude putting a ring on a working girl but SIMPS going to be SIMPS, would never be me having a working girl parading me around like some ATM. Anyway I'm going for carnival and trying to get new info on girls and clubs. Looks like Dolce is back open and Delirium moved to where Pley Club at. Shits wild out there fam.
You don't have PM but looks like someone decided to take the girl you were looking for off the market.
The edited ones were dropped in a WhatsApp group but the original pictures are available to the public on her social media, and I made sure to put in this post they are publicly available for anyone to see as I know how the Mods here like to remove pictures.
Will be on Barranquilla for carnival and will probably stop in cartagena. All the airbnb places don't allow guests unless they are registered in advanced. Where to guys go?
Can't really tell those degenerates nothing. The moment someone try to educate them on why they shouldn't do certain things in a foreign country its met with instant backlash with the same dumb responses, "stop pocket watching, stop hating, stop dick policing, etc". Then years later they come to the same conclusion and start saying how people messed it up when they themselves were part of the problem and opened the door for others to push new boundaries. When the behavior that was contained to Delirium, started spreading to Dolce and Space I knew it was only a matter of time. Dolce went from a no filming policy to having girls dance on the bar, on that new raised platform, hookah and money guns shooting stacks of 2 mil bills. Space turned up to a straight hookah bar and having girls dance on the bar then then the Sisters started showing up in there trying to "turn up". I remember right after the lockdown people kept saying how Cartagena was too big to be ruined like Sosua and people should never compare it to Sosua but surely enough with enough time those same exact people are now saying how Cartagena is ruined.This is an Evergreen post! I couldn't have said it any better. YouTube passport bros make their money by selling a dream and eventually if they don't get enough views pushing you to their Patreon. So they're going to make it seem like these places are paradises and downplay the negatives. Like the skyrocketing prices driven by simps who don't understand the currency. Guys who want to pretend like they're in a rap music video and take videos of them with women that they are paying to be there. Honestly it's just pathetic.
The main point you made is their ridiculous claim that these places are "too big to be ruined" which is a complete lie. The reason why these places are easily ruined is because when you make YouTube videos that get 100's of 1000's sometimes millions of views, the men come to the cities all go to the same few places. In Cartagena, they flood the clock tower and go to the same 3 clubs. THREE clubs for all the mongers coming to Cartagena. So now after raids, the quality plummets and the prices rise becuase the men are desperate. Last time I was in Cartagena I had 5's and 6's quoting $150-$250 and refusing to negotiate. If you sit down yourself and add up all the airbnb costs, cost of the plane ticket, cost of additional travel expenses you could be easily paying $300+ for a chica. In the US, it's not hard to find 7's for $140. Don't tell me it's for the beaches because you get harassed literally every 2 minutes. Look at Kurt Katz's video on youtube. He's literally been to well over 100 countries and he says that Cartagena is the scammer capital of the world.
The entire scene around the clock tower, the street heading north and east from that corner, and all the surrounding streets were completely hopping.
The locals all said that after the initial "crackdown", which only lasted a short time, everything is back to normal.
If you've seen any YouTube videos, KB Travels or anyone similar, the streets were exactly like that both Friday and Saturday this weekend.
And if you like US hip-hop music, which I do, definitely check out Club Androgeno, which apparently is the old Delirium, moved into a new location. That place was packed with girls on Saturday night, just an absolutely wild scene. Took one girl home from there, an complete sweetheart. Paid way too much, but she stayed all night, and gave me complete girlfriend treatment, so I was ok with it.
Book it, you should not regret going. Great time.
Hi there.
How's the situation in old town now. I heard / read about mass crackdown on bars / clock tower and some sort of locals, calling a 'moral police squad' type to harass you few months ago; is it still the same, have things recovered? I'm thinking about heading down end of Feb / early March and even heading to Rosario for a night or two. I haven't seen any updates from the 'crackdown' so thought I'd ask. Any thoughts on Rosario for a little RnR (maybe just one are if there's a chica).
Hey all quick trip report here. SUPER long, especially as it was only 2 days / nights, but I had a bangin good time, pun intended!
Friday 1/24 - arrived around 1 PM, took an hour exactly to get through immigration, no thanks to the mfers who constantly try to cut the fucking line. DO NOT BE THAT ASSHOLE!! Seriously stop fucking doing that. Anyway. Uber to Soy Local Hotel. Walked to the corner store and got some essentials, then wandered around. At 4 PM, ZERO girls on the street. So I decided to sit down somewhere, get a drink and a snack and wait to see how things picked up. Headed to Mirador right by the clock tower.
First, thanks to everyone who made a restaurant recommendation, I only ate at Mirador with great views right above the clock tower, on Friday early evening, but oh my god, the ceviche corroncho was STUPENDOUS. I nearly wanted to lick the bowl, it was that good. And after initially asking the waiter, super cool dude, which to choose between that or the ceviche mixto, he immediately said corroncho and I wasn't really buying it, but afterward, definitely appreciative of that recommendation. Goddamn, near perfect. Mojitos were good to, but not as good as El Muelle in Playa Laguito, which I'll get to in Saturday's section.
2 mojitos and the ceviche down, headed out again to see what was up, now that it was pushing 7 PM. Wandered the few blocks north of clock tower, then coming back around, and ran into a girl, totally can't remember her name. She was in white shorts, white crop-top kinda, and with big titties and a nice smile, she got my attention. She made me an offer, it seemed pretty good, I told her "todo sin condon", to which she immediately responded "Si". She wanted $240 k for 2 hours and would come to my room. It was a bit far (I'm lazy) from my room, so we ended up taking a room for short time at Hotel El Viajero (keep that in your back pocket if you just want a quick bang and don't want to Uber back to a hotel, or walk). Cost was steep for 2 hours, $140 k, so also keep that in mind. Yes, I paid too much, don't kill me for that, I was in the mood and had a short attention span, so I went with it.
As usual, took her to the fucking mat. Literally and figuratively. I really wanted to go the full 2 hours, but she tapped out at exactly 59 minutes, which I was fine with. Pretty nice BJ, no condom, but she wanted to fuck and so did I. Made her get on top so I could watch those titties swing around, then moved through missionary, reverse cowgirl (not as great as usual because no front view), then finally hit her from behind and watched the titties swinging in the mirror. Fantastic view. Finally made her lie down flat on her stomach, and just pounded her pussy from behind before finishing on her back. She was ANNOYED, saying, "Baby, porque viniste en mi espalda, no hay jabon!" She thought there was no soap in the shower, she was incorrect. She showered up, I did the same. Paid her the money and seriously this girl FLED, like ran down the steps ignoring the front desk girl who was calling after her saying she forgot something at the desk. Not sure why, didn't see her on the street later after she said she'd be near the taco spot around the corner. Definitely odd. But, all in all a great first one down.
At this point, I'm super tired and just decided to wander the streets taking in the scene. It is truly a kid in the candy shop type experience, there were SO MANY girls out, it was wild. One thing I like about Cartagena (similar to Parque Lleras) is that the girls are all dolled up like they're going out to a fancy dinner. Some of the dresses they have on are just incredible. KEEP IN MIND, there are a LOT of very plain and / or downright ugly girls too. It's not all perfect, but the ratio of good to bad is probably 2:1 to 3:1, depending on your tastes. I do NOT like fake anything: BBLs, any sort of operated giant tits, etc. They look just stupid to me. But other guys LOVE THAT SHIT. If you do, you're in luck, lots of big, operated asses and huge hard as rock (look to be) tits. Luckily, lots of non-operated girls too.
Sat down at clock tower pub (right in front of clock tower), probably 200 feet from Mirador. Shot the breeze with a couple of 2 super nice older black dudes from NYC, enjoyed 2 good mojitos, then started up the walking tour again. Did a few loops, then parked myself by the corner directly under Mirador. Great post-up spot because if you see a great one while walking around, just stay there, and believe me, she'll come by again. Honestly, lots of guys getting WhatsApp numbers, but didn't see a lot of girls actually being picked up and taken away.
Finally, was about to call it quits when while walking back to Soy Local about 1:30 AM, saw Paola, darker girl, long shiny black hair just just gave me the longest, hardest eye-fuck I'd had in a while, so I stared right back. Wasn't sure if I wanted to do anything about it, but she comes back and makes me a good offer $200 k for 2 hours, whatever I want. She said, "I'm really good at sexo oral" and so off we went.
She wasn't lying, bareback blowjob was one of the best I've had in a really long time, of course I finally decide it's time to fuck, so it basically was a repeat from girl #1, on top, big titties swinging, then reverse cowgirl, missionary, doggie, and then finally on the bed lying flat until I blasted on her ass and back. Very nice. She said she was tired and was going to head home, but based on her cleanup routine in the bathroom, I think she was just getting ready to hit the streets again. Lots of re-application of makeup and perfume. I thought it was a little funny that she asked to use my deodorant, but sure ok.
I walked her down, she left, and I went to sleep.
Saturday - 1/25 - beach day for a while.
After not sleeping as well or as long as I'd wanted to, decided to get up and go for a long walk from centro to Playa Laguito, about 3 miles total (5 kms). Nice walk, interesting to watch the change in buildings, construction, beach shacks selling food and drinks, all the way down to Laguito. Didn't realize I'd walked right by Playa Hollywood (or Holiwood as some folks spell it) and took a backtrack to walk Hollywood. Not much in the way of girls out, but a few.
Side note on BEACH VENDORS: 2 comments on the beach area that are NOT in alignment with others' observations. 1) the beach was NOT a terrible experience. The umbrella rental costs seem steep and one of the guys I ran into later Saturday afternoon said he actually saw a beach vendor pull out 2 different menus with rental costs, 1 for locals and 1 for foreigners. These are the printed / laminated cards that have the costs for umbrellas, chairs, recliner chairs, etc. , so yes, Gringo pricing is a thing. That said, I got a mojito from one of the little shacks and by speaking Spanish and not being an asshole I don't think I was overcharged or treated differently, all the folks were very nice. 2) I was NOT accosted by beach vendors / touts / massage ladies every 20 meters as others have noted. I'm not saying that doesn't happen, it just didn't happen to me. 2 or 3 massage ladies made their offers, I politely turned them down, they attempted a "sample" where they rub your shoulders / neck, whatever, I still politely turned them down and they moved on, all a pleasant interaction, nothing terrible. The cigar vendors were also willing to take "No Gracias" and walk away. The bracelet vendors same thing. I did see 2 older gringos react very negatively and very strongly with some inappropriate language and that got a very bad reaction in return. Not telling people what to do, but if you behave like an asshole, you're probably going to get shitty / asshole treatment in return. Just sayin'.
Anyway, walked back to Laguito, checked out the guys gutting fish, saw a chef walking back to Muelle holding a live lobster, which was interesting, and then headed to Muelle Playa Laguito to eat. It's a nice setup, great ambiance, they let you leave your belongings at the table if you want to go swim in the ocean and they're basically keeping an eye on your stuff for you. Food was VERY good. I got a fried mojarra (tilapia), with brown rice mixed with beans, a sliced avocado and some salad, but the real gem was the Canasta de jaiba / crabs braskets for $36,000. 00 for my appetizer. Another near "lick the plate" experience. Goddamn!! Plus the mojitos were the best of the trip. Sat, enjoyed my drinks, paid the bill about 3 PM, walked 1/2 mile back, then decided to grab a taxi. Took a nap, then decided to walk around starting about 7 PM, similar to Friday night. That was a great plan.
Ran across Joana / Martina. Really pretty mid-30's Colombiana. Took her for a drink to El Pasquin, which is a great place as well. Nice drinks, the other guests said their food was really good. Her phone was not charging and she was super agitated by this, so she left to go get it working and after 30 minutes, I called it a "date" and left. No harm done. Met a younger black american guy who said we could walk around and check the scene together. I said, yep, sounds like a great plan. Dude was super cool and we had a nice conversation about Cartagena, the street scene, how his days are like (he lives in an Airbnb down Copacabana beach near the mall there, which he said was nice), and then ran into 2 other black guys from the US.
PASSPORT BROS SIDE NOTE: I know that many folks who post here are anti-passport bros, which almost invariably means black American men, and I do understand the agitation with some of their over the top behaviors. Hell I even saw a black American woman just twerking her ass off in the middle of a street, singing along with a hip-hop song emanating from one of the nearby bars (it was a great ass, so I was in favor of this behavior). However, I will say I had an absolutely spectacular time hanging out with these 3 black guys as a mid-50's white guy. Was one of them really over the top, yes, but he was just so damn happy and excited by all the girls in the street, and the quantity of WhatsApp numbers he was getting that when he just yelled out to no one in particular "GODDAMN I LOVE COLOMBIAAAAAA! I could only laugh and agree. It was hilarious. Just an expression of near pure joy that was fun to witness.
Streets were hopping. Lots and lots and lots and yes EVEN MORE really hot girls out in the plaza, on the street everywhere, the guys were just chasing them down getting numbers, and the girls were sending picture after picture after picture to them of every single pose you can imagine, many of which were pretty freaking amazing. These girls are all professional level marketing majors, and know how to sell their products. They may not speak English in person, but they certainly speak it plenty well enough via WhatsApp to lure almost any guy in.
About 10:30 PM or so, one guy suggests we finally get a move on to Club Androgeno, which out nearly 3 miles from centro but more inland. Address: Avenida el bosque 21 #48-72, Diagonal A #4-72, Cartagena de Indias, Bolívar, Colombia.
We ordered an Uber it and took for fucking ever to arrive, because the traffic was stupid. Finally get in the car, arrive, get out, walk in, and the entrance area has a "cantina" type vibe to it, salsa music by the bar, etc. And I thought to myself, "Doesn't seem like an Urban club, USA style". Well, we get to the main part of the club and yeah, much more like an Atlanta strip club. The one guy pays for a bottle of Tequila for $800 k (Yes you read that right), which comes with a table for us to claim our spot by, 4 Canada Dry small mixer bottles plus some limes with spicy salt, and we have a shot. Not a ton of girls around, but more than enough, and more streaming in every minute. The excited guy is wide awake now, getting numbers, having the girls grind on him, clothed lap dances, etc. And we're just laughing he was enjoying himself so much. About 11:30 PM, I'm thinking I might dip early, but was going to hang out and see.
Nope. Midnight rolls around and the club is now so packed with girls, probably 3:1 girls to guys, the DJ is just rocking out the hip-hop tunes and it was fucking amazing. Everybody dancing, having a good time, had quite a few girls come up to me to get my WhatsApp, but wouldn't you know that the ONLY place my Verizon Travel Pass didn't work well was inside Androgeno. Seriously, like WTF.
The club is loud, so it's hard to communicate, which is probably where the Google Translate would be most useful. That said, I was able to speak and hear well enough that I didn't use it.
One girl, Elizabeth, lighter skinned, long red braids, tiny titties but great ass on her, finally comes up after I signaled to her to come have a shot. This leads her to have another, we chat, she's super happy that I speak Spanish, we chat and dance and grind and have some tit grabbing, with some nipple action mixed in for probably 2 hours. Somewhere in there we go to the front, have some surprisingly good wings and fries (yes, it's a US strip club experience at this point) and we go back inside. More shots, dancing, etc. Until about 3:15 AM, when we head finally outside. We all shoot the shit for a while, get some rides lined up and take off. At this point, the shots on an empty stomach (prior to the wings and fries) are catching up to my friend, so she has the driver pull over 3 separate times to "unload" what she just ate. YIKES! Guy was super cool about it, told me "See I deserve that 30 k for the ride that you talked me down to $25 k". Yeah, he definitely did. Ended up giving him $50 k because he was so solid in handling the bad experience. Girl was a pro though, no extra on the door or the inside of the car, everything outside. Whew.
Get to the room, she's feeling a lot better after we had some water and chatted. She takes a shower, I do the same, and off to the bed. About 2 hours of good times, basically a repeat of the prior 2. Every position, 2-3 x, a few breather breaks in between, finally a good nut to finish the evening's festivities. Awesome.
Around 9 AM we get up, she showered up again, I walk her downstairs to retrieve her cedula, make sure she's in a taxi and on her way and that was the end of my trip. 2 nights, 2 days, 3 girls. Quite a reduction from my usual numbers, but I really enjoyed this trip. Super relaxing, tons of fun, a giant party for me at the end. Fantastic.
All in all, great experience and I would not hesitate to go to CTG again. In fact, given that I like the hot, humid tropical weather, plus the ocean, it makes for an attractive place for me for a 3-4 night trip. Any longer and I think it's so small I'd probably burn out. Any shorter, like this 2 night trip and it's not quite enough. 3-4 nights would be near perfect. A week would be perfect if I mixed in a lot more beach activities, like swimming, a boat tour probably at night, that sort of thing. Supposedly there are some day-trips to a nearby island that is supposed to be fun.
INFO ON AIRPORT CTG for those who want a recent "how long is the wait in line" observation: I checked in online and had my digital boarding pass, so only had to head straight to security. The security line was not long, but man, the process of just "checking out" using the automated machines the same as they use in BOG was just sooooo much longer. No idea why. The Americans in line just didn't get how to use the machine (simple, place passport, DO NOT REMOVE IT, key in your flight number, wait for the machine to take your photo and wait for the green light signal, only then remove the passport, gate will open and you're on your way.) Screening of the bag was super quick after that. If they could speed up the passport scanning piece, the whole thing would've been 10 minutes quicker.
All that said, I left the hotel at 10 AM for a noon flight, but by the time I was through security and waiting at the gate, including travel time by Uber, it was 45 minutes. So I probably could have left 15-30 minutes later and gotten there just as boarding began, but maybe that's pushing it a little too closely.
Mr Enternational
01-28-25, 02:21
definitely check out Club Androgeno, which apparently is the old Delirium, moved into a new location.Huh? Is that like if every board is changed out on a ship, is it still the same ship? Club is in a different place with a different name, then how can it be the club that was somewhere else with a different name?
This is an Evergreen post! I couldn't have said it any better. YouTube passport bros make their money by selling a dream and eventually if they don't get enough views pushing you to their Patreon. So they're going to make it seem like these places are paradises and downplay the negatives. Like the skyrocketing prices driven by simps who don't understand the currency. Guys who want to pretend like they're in a rap music video and take videos of them with women that they are paying to be there. Honestly it's just pathetic.
The main point you made is their ridiculous claim that these places are "too big to be ruined" which is a complete lie. The reason why these places are easily ruined is because when you make YouTube videos that get 100's of 1000's sometimes millions of views, the men come to the cities all go to the same few places. In Cartagena, they flood the clock tower and go to the same 3 clubs. THREE clubs for all the mongers coming to Cartagena. So now after raids, the quality plummets and the prices rise becuase the men are desperate. Last time I was in Cartagena I had 5's and 6's quoting $150-$250 and refusing to negotiate. If you sit down yourself and add up all the airbnb costs, cost of the plane ticket, cost of additional travel expenses you could be easily paying $300+ for a chica. In the US, it's not hard to find 7's for $140. Don't tell me it's for the beaches because you get harassed literally every 2 minutes. Look at Kurt Katz's video on youtube. He's literally been to well over 100 countries and he says that Cartagena is the scammer capital of the world.I agree. Cartagena is the worse out of the cities in Colombia. Between the begging and heat. It's unbearable.
The entire scene around the clock tower, the street heading north and east from that corner, and all the surrounding streets were completely hopping.
The locals all said that after the initial "crackdown", which only lasted a short time, everything is back to normal.
If you've seen any YouTube videos, KB Travels or anyone similar, the streets were exactly like that both Friday and Saturday this weekend.
And if you like US hip-hop music, which I do, definitely check out Club Androgeno, which apparently is the old Delirium, moved into a new location. That place was packed with girls on Saturday night, just an absolutely wild scene. Took one girl home from there, an complete sweetheart. Paid way too much, but she stayed all night, and gave me complete girlfriend treatment, so I was ok with it.
Book it, you should not regret going. Great time.Damn, I love your recap of your 2 days / 2 nights there. I had a similar experience in Medellin, just meeting random dudes and all of us hanging out and checking out sites. What'd you think of Soy Local, was it easy enough to bring the girls back? I assume they check their ids, any joiner fees?
Reading your recap, I'm ready to take off tomorrow LOL. I'm heading down probably last week of Feb, if not the week before.
Inside the club, they actually had "Delirium" signage, shirts on the servers, and a few other places, even though the club itself is named Androgeno Latin Club, with the address as listed.
Why that is, I couldn't say, and I didn't really think to interrogate them as to why that was.
Huh? Is that like if every board is changed out on a ship, is it still the same ship? Club is in a different place with a different name, then how can it be the club that was somewhere else with a different name?
Upon check-in, the woman at the desk, after all the normal costs, signing the guest form, paying the bill upfront for the nights to be stayed, etc. Gives a rundown of the "guest policy", basically she said, in English no less, "If you meet someone and decide to bring them here, please know that we will take their physical identification and hold it while they're here. We will not give it back to them until you return to the front desk with them and instruct us that everything is ok and that we can return their identification to them."
At that, I was well satisfied that things would be ok.
Best part, I took 2 guests back and unlike in Medellin, there was zero guest charge. Just turn the ID over, the front desk person makes a note in a notebook and files the ID in an folder organizer, and off you go to the room. When you return, they ask the girl what her name is, check the notebook, retrieve it from the folder and off she goes.
For me in Medellin, most hotels wanted $100 k per guest, so between $20 and $25 USD at current exchange rates.
Given that the girls in Cartagena at least TRY to charge more, if you factor out the added guest charge that you'd pay in Medellin, the 2 become more comparable. Although Hotel Nutibara in Medellin centro did not charge me any guest fees either.
Bottom line, Soy Local Centro Historico was a decent enough place, with an ideal location near to all the action that if you wanted to bring multiple girls back over multiple days, the savings in terms of not paying guest fees could be pretty substantial.
NOTE: be aware that they use some sort of powerfully scented cleaning solution when mopping the floors throughout the building. If you're sensitive to strong smells, this might not be the place for you. Think Fabuloso type strong smell. If you like that, or are used to it because your family uses it, then you'll be fine. For me it hit me hard when I first was in the lobby checking in, but got used to it over the next 2 days. Just an FYI.
OTHER NOTE: The guys I met were staying at an OZ Hotel down in Bocagrande and they also said guests were allowed and did not mention guest fees being charged.
Damn, I love your recap of your 2 days / 2 nights there. I had a similar experience in Medellin, just meeting random dudes and all of us hanging out and checking out sites. What'd you think of Soy Local, was it easy enough to bring the girls back? I assume they check their ids, any joiner fees?
Reading your recap, I'm ready to take off tomorrow LOL. I'm heading down probably last week of Feb, if not the week before.
Inside the club, they actually had "Delirium" signage, shirts on the servers, and a few other places, even though the club itself is named Androgeno Latin Club, with the address as listed.
Why that is, I couldn't say, and I didn't really think to interrogate them as to why that was.Some back story.
The person who owns Delirium also owns Androgeno.
When they shut down Delirium (some say the mayor shut it down others say the owner shut it down to remodel). The owner took all the signage and decor and move it to Androgeno because he knew a certain type of crowd will follow and sure enough like flies on shit they did follow. It then became too packed because it was too small so they expanded it but even so it still too damn small and the experience is still the same. I don't know about everyone else but I'm not a fan of having no 300 lb man rubbing his beer belly against me every time he has to go to the damn bathroom or be shoulder to shoulder with someone drenched in sweat with volume control issues repeating the same dumb ass phrases over and over (like I said; you know what it is; what I'm saying is; you know what I'm saying).
On a sidenote:
Another thing that people arent talking about is the big problem happening in Cartagena with those Ray-Ban camera glasses especially in Delirium / Androgeno and its going to lead to the same thing that happened in Brazil where some guys were using Osmo Pocket to record the girls while having sex with them and the girls didn't know. They are doing the same thing in Cartagena with the girls in Androgeno, the girls already picked up on it, took pictures of the guys wearing the glasses in the club and the glasses and they are talking about it.
Someone is going to get jammed up real good in Cartagena because of those glasses. Bookmark this post as the "I told you so".
Yo thanks for that fam good lookin! I saw the info over at Chicacheck before it went offline. Her Facebook was listed on there and is wide open. Slid in the DMs but no reply. I kinda feel sorry for old dude putting a ring on a working girl but SIMPS going to be SIMPS, would never be me having a working girl parading me around like some ATM. Anyway I'm going for carnival and trying to get new info on girls and clubs. Looks like Dolce is back open and Delirium moved to where Pley Club at. Shits wild out there fam.One mans trash is another mans treasure.
Yea ChicaCheck now redirects to PattayaA so allot of information on these girls are now gone. As for the chica posting herself with gringo all over her social media, its something allot of gringos don't understand unless they experienced the poor mentality. It like someone spending $300 on Jordans to floss to strangers they have money but in reality, there's $0 in the bank account and they are living paycheck to paycheck. What the chica is doing is flossing the gringo to show what she got paying all the bills, the same thing happens in the Philippines where the girls takes the gringo back to her slum and shows him off and he ends up becoming the ATM for the whole family. Eventually once they drain his pockets and move on hes going to get his wake up call just like so many others.
Space / Omina got shut down again.
Caf del Mar just disappeared, everything is gone, and I'm surprised that no one had even mentioned that yet as it was a popular place for sunset pictures and drinks.
Dolce is open but I would not suggest that you limit yourself to the same 3 overpacked gringo clubs, a Clock Tower and a dirty ass Beach (Hollywood).
As for Carnival, you might want to start contacting girls now to see if they are available.
Chicas who are getting paid are not being bothered with staying in Cartagena, they are all trying to go to Europe, Mexico is now the poor mans travel spot to take chicas. Even the Trans are up on that game getting flown out to Spain. The ones who already did Mexico, Spain, Dubai are trying to get to Maimi and NYC but now it's a little more difficult since the border shut down. It's all over their social media, these chicas are just there to take photos to post on social media.
Theres allot I'm not saying but allot of people are going to get their wakeup call while out of the country in 2025 because people been watching and they been dropping photos in group chats of these people doing dumb shit while overseas.
PASSPORT BROS SIDE NOTE: I know that many folks who post here are anti-passport bros, which almost invariably means black American men, and I do understand the agitation with some of their over the top behaviors. Hell I even saw a black American woman just twerking her ass off in the middle of a street, singing along with a hip-hop song emanating from one of the nearby bars (it was a great ass, so I was in favor of this behavior). However, I will say I had an absolutely spectacular time hanging out with these 3 black guys as a mid-50's white guy. Was one of them really over the top, yes, but he was just so damn happy and excited by all the girls in the street, and the quantity of WhatsApp numbers he was getting that when he just yelled out to no one in particular "GODDAMN I LOVE COLOMBIAAAAAA! I could only laugh and agree. It was hilarious. Just an expression of near pure joy that was fun to witness.
I'm going to guess that you found it amusing because its not something that is a constant in your life. To elaborate I'm guessing where you come from, you don't hang out with individuals who display that type of behavior on a daily basis so one night of loud mouths and a woman twerking in the middle of the street was fun to you to witness. By the 100th time you see it you will see it as an annoyance JAJAJ.
Mr Enternational
01-29-25, 06:01
Inside the club, they actually had "Delirium" signage, shirts on the servers, and a few other places, even though the club itself is named Androgeno Latin Club, with the address as listed.
Why that is, I couldn't say, and I didn't really think to interrogate them as to why that was.Hell, to save some money. Nothing wrong with that!
Mr Enternational
01-29-25, 06:12
someone drenched in sweat with volume control issues repeating the same dumb ass phrases over and over (like I said; you know what it is; what I'm saying is; you know what I'm saying).
LOL. I was watching a podcast the other day and a guy kept saying "you know what I'm saying? The host got on him about it. Then in place of that, he started saying "right? Why do people do that shit? It would take half the time to say what they have to say if they leave out the repetitive fillers.
Mr Enternational
01-29-25, 06:20
the same thing happens in the Philippines where the girls takes the gringo back to her slum and shows him off and he ends up becoming the ATM for the whole family. Eventually once they drain his pockets and move on hes going to get his wake up call just like so many others.
No they won't. They will just go find another chick and repeat the same thing. Speak of the devil though, I have been standing in this immigration line in the Philippines for 45 minutes.
You are right on with this observation. I saw at least 2 guys who had them, and I noticed that a little light would come on by the right hinge on the lens side of the glasses when they were recording. I didn't say anything because the dude was 2 x my size, but yeah, it's fairly obvious when the light is on that there's something happening.
Won't be long before people get pissed and someone gets their head cracked.
Some back story.
The person who owns Delirium also owns Androgeno.
When they shut down Delirium (some say the mayor shut it down others say the owner shut it down to remodel). The owner took all the signage and decor and move it to Androgeno because he knew a certain type of crowd will follow and sure enough like flies on shit they did follow. It then became too packed because it was too small so they expanded it but even so it still too damn small and the experience is still the same. I don't know about everyone else but I'm not a fan of having no 300 lb man rubbing his beer belly against me every time he has to go to the damn bathroom or be shoulder to shoulder with someone drenched in sweat with volume control issues repeating the same dumb ass phrases over and over (like I said; you know what it is; what I'm saying is; you know what I'm saying).
On a sidenote:
Another thing that people arent talking about is the big problem happening in Cartagena with those Ray-Ban camera glasses especially in Delirium / Androgeno and its going to lead to the same thing that happened in Brazil where some guys were using Osmo Pocket to record the girls while having sex with them and the girls didn't know. They are doing the same thing in Cartagena with the girls in Androgeno, the girls already picked up on it, took pictures of the guys wearing the glasses in the club and the glasses and they are talking about it.
Someone is going to get jammed up real good in Cartagena because of those glasses. Bookmark this post as the "I told you so".
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