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Member #2001
09-26-21, 22:35
30 k is normal from what I remember and what is the going price, there are exceptions, trios, that are 30 per person, condom or no condom, and some girls want a bit more for picts. Had one this morning and she was good. Fake blond hair, but good personality, and compliant. Paid 30 k plus 9 k tip, plus 8 k for the room. Did I over pay? It really does not feel like it to me. There I some strange things going on here. Quoted 80 this morning, cute, but just had to pass. I really don't know or care about other parts of MDE, but I did hear sculpimine available and the girls in llares use it. Again. I don't go there so often to care what others are doing, Just more of a PSA. Be carful out there. It really is a thing and is available if you know where to go. Some Gringos have left and I expect some will come back or arrive as newbies. Personally, I am looking for an apartment. I want to stay here for a while, 6 months at a time.
Member #2001
09-26-21, 22:40
Secret and I had had a little falling-out a few weeks ago when I bailed out of a taxi also occupied by her and a driver friend of hers, nothing serious. Not surprisingly she's been messaging me almost every day since then. We would see each other on average 3 times a week before that little incident maybe more usually in the middle of the night, she was a great booty call. I did not intend to see her again this trip but as is often the case my little head out negotiated my big head. I like all types of girls all sizes, and all colors. She is your type if you like the Victoria's Secret model body which she often wears and had on last night. She hasn't changed, she is a hardcore Bello puta, I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her, she always tries to change the deal, she can't be trusted, she doesn't keep her word, has a drug-addled mind, and she gives detached impersonal performances in bed. In other words, hawt as fuck, jajajajaja. Ostee Out. Keep On Keepin' On!Thats awesome. How did you manage to find a puta that has so few tattoos. Seems like here once they get a little bit of money, they get another tattoo. Tattoos are a bit dated for me, but if the girl preforms well, whos to complain, not I. Just my humble opinion.
Peace.
So 30 k is on the higher end and what most of us rats pay. The Colombians who go with the lower end girls pay 10 k to 15 k and use the 3 k rooms. Also, Centro girls absolutely work Lleras. Anyone who doubts what I am saying should translate or read the original from El Colombiano: https://www.elcolombiano.com/amp/antioquia/la-prostitucion-esta-migrando-del-centro-al-parque-lleras-MG15759566?__twitter_impression=true.
30 k is normal from what I remember and what is the going price, there are exceptions, trios, that are 30 per person, condom or no condom, and some girls want a bit more for picts. Had one this morning and she was good. Fake blond hair, but good personality, and compliant. Paid 30 k plus 9 k tip, plus 8 k for the room. Did I over pay? It really does not feel like it to me. There I some strange things going on here. Quoted 80 this morning, cute, but just had to pass. I really don't know or care about other parts of MDE, but I did hear sculpimine available and the girls in llares use it. Again. I don't go there so often to care what others are doing, Just more of a PSA. Be carful out there. It really is a thing and is available if you know where to go. Some Gringos have left and I expect some will come back or arrive as newbies. Personally, I am looking for an apartment. I want to stay here for a while, 6 months at a time.
I was watching this video of a youtuber walking around El Centro and around 7:05 there is some footage of the infamous Carrera 53 Calle 52 intersection from a great vantage point which I'm am deducing is the Grill Venecia (see attached photo).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0c_qn_wxIU&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=4
Anyone ever eat here before- is it as promising as it looks as an observation deck of the action?Yes, it's an excellent observation deck / balcony to watch the stream of Chicas down below.
You can take the bus to the Nutibara hotel and avoid the helpers and draggong luggage to the taxis. There is not much difference in distance.
It is doable and safe. When you get to San Diego, there will be a group of young ladies and men to help you with your luggage and hail a taxi for you. They are completely safe and help you for a tip, one or two mil is sufficient. Sometimes taxis are waiting and sometimes not, but at that time of night they should be waiting. You have to walk a short distance from where the bus drops you off to where the taxis pick you up. The helpers will take your luggage and lead the way.
My suggestion is to book an Arbnb or hotel in either laureles or nearby poblado for a couple of nights. You can take the metro or cab to see el centro and see if that kind of environment suits you? Be aware that a lot of the supporters of el centro here don't venture out at night for good reasons. This board is dominated by members that swear that el centro is great. I don't agree with that but I respect their opinions. I personally don't go there. If you want to stay in an arbnb in laureles, I would be careful about booking a room in SanPeter. The noise level is intolerable unless you are lucky enough to get a sound proof room. Only a few of the rooms provide that. Good luck
.Same thing can be said about people who never been to El Centro at night and offering suggestions. Same suggestion can be made to the OP to only book one or two nights in El Centro.
The OP's original thinking wasn't wrong. If I were going to focus on casas in El Centro, and I am going to have two pops a day. Is it better to stay nearby and be able to go anytime I want and go back to the hotel any time I want. Or make a trip and stay out several hours not sure what to do during down time? Or make two trips each day?
RedWaters44
09-27-21, 03:23
Which is to say, another fantastic day. Technically, 4 girls in a day would be my average which would make this an above average day, jeje.
The blond with the pink belly button is the new "umbrella" girl. I literally just walked up to her at random to ask where I could buy an umbrella that she was standing under and she instantly shared it with me. Nice. Well, if your "random" sample was defined as all girls with an umbrella, jeje.
While I was talking and walking to the store with her I began to notice how cute and sweet and pretty her face was and 30 minutes later we were in a hotel fucking and the word "no" was not in her vocabulary. She was awesome and I've got her phone number. I gave her less than $15 USD and she was grateful for it. Obviously, she was a puta, or was she?Ostee,
I remember there was one point at which I studied your post in hopes of learning so a future trip to Medellin is a fraction as good as yours has been. I gave up and read your posts purely for entertainment now. I wouldn't be able to replicate the shit you've done the past few months even if I had a dozen trips under my belt and learned Spanish better than I communicate in my mother tongue. Lucky fuck! Jajaja.
The Tall Man
09-27-21, 03:57
Anyone book 3 hours at New Life? So Can I pop 2-3 x?About 5 years ago I had an ATF there and so did book the room for like 3 hours, my girl was so fun and giving just had to have it over and over.
I also have a good Colombian friend who frequents this casa and he takes one girl for 45 min to an hour and as soon as he finishes with her takes another one then when he finishes with that takes a 3rd one. Gawd to be in my 40's again hehehe.
The Tall Man.
The Windex Man
09-27-21, 04:43
San Peter Apartments in Laureles. You can find it on booking for com. About $30 per night. There is a second metro train line that goes from Laureles to El Centro. It's a short walk, from San Peter apartments to the Estadio metro station. More importantly it's nice and flat. The Poblado station sits at the bottom of a steep hill.Thanks JjBee62 for the apartment suggestion! Yes, I do see that it is available for a good price on booking.com and I see that the place has amenities that I would want. I see that another poster mentioned that it can be very noisy, so I will email San Peter and see if there's a certain area that a person can stay to reduce the noise.
The Metro trains go from Laureles to the San Antonio station. You should venture out around the San Antonio and Parque Berrio stations, and not the Prado station. There are many hotels on and near LA 70 in Laureles Estadio. I have read many are guest friendly. The rooms facing LA 70 will be noisy during the weekends. I don't stay in hotels, so I can't provide personal information. The hotels in Laureles are quite a bit cheaper than in Poblado.Appreciate this feedback Fun Luvr! Checking out hotels in that Laureles area. Was thinking about that Poblado area mainly due to Parque Lleras, but after reading more about that place, I'm not really interested in paying the prices the women charge there, so now I am fine with staying in Laureles area instead. Unless I misread something, it looks like Laureles has a park as well. Don't know if similar to Parque Lleras. Still reading and studying.
It's not that bad. You just have to get familiar with and remember the streets during daytime so you don't get lost or have to stop looking at map at night time. Think about it. If you want to rob someone, where would you go? El Centro or El Poblado?
You can look up Osteoknot's posts. He has mentioned some hotels in Laureles.Thanks Nounce! I will look into at least getting a map and try to do street study before I go down there. Even if I don't officially stay in El Centro, the prices are just too good down there to not visit. I'll make sure to do my visits during the daytime. Will also review some past posts from Osteoknot.
Really appreciate everyone's feedback.
About 5 years ago I had an ATF there and so did book the room for like 3 hours, my girl was so fun and giving just had to have it over and over.
I also have a good Colombian friend who frequents this casa and he takes one girl for 45 min to an hour and as soon as he finishes with her takes another one then when he finishes with that takes a 3rd one. Gawd to be in my 40's again hehehe.
The Tall Man.One advantage of New Life, for someone who is uncertain about how much time they want to spend, is you pay after, for however long you were in the room. Most of the other casas you pay up front for a specific time. It would suck to pay for 3 hours and it turns out the girl isn't someone you want to spend that much time with. At New Life you can get away from a dud after 30 minutes, or stay with a star for as long as you want.
Hotel Nutibara El Centro.
I can't tell from your question exactly what's going on, it almost sounds like you've got family or legit business in your primary room which means these two rooms must not cross. The reason I say that is because the best set up for mongering in both rooms is two rooms in the same hotel. One in the front, one in the back, different floors, different stairwells. The most common misconception is that you need different hotels and worse, far apart. The closer the better. But if you're at risk of end of marriage or end of job if you get caught then I would not recommend same hotel.
You know there are Love Motels, right? You usually pay for a block of time like 3 hours. I was in one yesterday in Bello. 30 mil COP for 3 hours. I know a great Love Motel within walking distance of El Centro that is clean, safe, secure, hot water, etc. It is caddy-corner off the left front corner of Simon Bolivar Parque but if you need the exact location PM me. There are a lot of short time motels in El Centro itself used by the putas but you should here from the El Centro Rat Gang on those, I'm not up to date on that. I was there today, but did not partake. I saw a short time hotel that is literally the closest one to the front of the Vera Cruz church, if you are facing the church, it's on the left, I can't remember the name but I have never heard it mentioned here, I think it was the "Real"? Anywho, it had more putas hanging out at the entrance and spilling down the stairs than any other hotel I saw there today, albeit it was a Sunday. Do any of you Rats know what hotel I am talking about?
A couple of things to ponder about all the Venezuelans in Centro and ID's. First off, your correct, there are lot's of them there without ID's whether it be Cedulas or a Passport. However this is not a concern for the locals, which have to be I'm guessing over 98% of their clients, and the locals don't fall under USA laws, meaning it being illegal for a USA citizen going with someone under 18 anywhere in the world which your aware of.
When I am in El Centro I see so many young girls working that I will not even get near them, albeit there fair game for the locals which is their client base versus foreigners.
The majority of the love hotels in El Centro do not check ID's. The exception though are the Hotels that are licensed to have foreigners overnight. So as an example, I have a friend here who has not been able to take a Venezuelan without an ID to the Premium Plaza because of their licensing, yet all of the girls working in Centro when they have no ID know of hotels that will let them in without it.
So getting back to what you want to do. Smart move to have a safe and secure primary place to have all your stuff. When you hit El Centro and you find someone you like with no ID, and feel comfortable that she is of legal age, she will be able to direct you where to go, albeit whether there is hot water you will have to ask. There are some real dives you don't want to go into, but all of the girls will know where to go or they wouldn't be out there working.
Another poster sent me a message about how I handle myself in El Centro when girls whether they be Colombians or Vennies don't have an ID. And as I mentioned, if they appear young I pass, albeit there are a lot of guys in El Centro that go with them, as these girls know where to go, but I will not. The mongers that do this, and there are a lot of them doing it down there, are playing with fire..
Thanks JjBee62 for the apartment suggestion! Yes, I do see that it is available for a good price on booking.com and I see that the place has amenities that I would want. I see that another poster mentioned that it can be very noisy, so I will email San Peter and see if there's a certain area that a person can stay to reduce the noise.
Appreciate this feedback Fun Luvr! Checking out hotels in that Laureles area. Was thinking about that Poblado area mainly due to Parque Lleras, but after reading more about that place, I'm not really interested in paying the prices the women charge there, so now I am fine with staying in Laureles area instead. Unless I misread something, it looks like Laureles has a park as well. Don't know if similar to Parque Lleras. Still reading and studying..San peter, the rooms ending in 01 are the noisiest. Best are the ones ending in 02. The ones ending in 03 are also OK.
I think generally, floors 7 and below are around 30 USD. The higher ones are like 40 to 50 usd. Just an approximation based on my observations.
A couple of wrongs turned out right today. First of all I would not have not gone out to El Centro if I knew it was a Sunday, but I thought it was a Saturday. Once I saw all the storefronts closed I sort of figured it out. The right was that it became a fantastic day.
I've been chatting up this cute little tight Vennie chica at the horse statue for a few days. I thought she was too young, but wait, she whipped out her cedula today and it showed that she was 19 yo. I was meeting my Spanish teacher in El Centro for a blowjob so she would not have to travel as far and the cost of a Love Motel was much less than the guest fee at the luxury hotel where I was staying at on Avenida 70. The funny thing there is she had obviously never done anything like that before because when we went into our room at the love Motel she didn't lock the door and one of the staff walked in on us, jajajaja.
Anywho, Spanish Teacher is intelligent, educated and also from Venezuela. After her stellar BJ, I asked Spanish Teacher to go out to the horse statue with me and check out the other little Vennie girl's ID or cedula. Spanish Teacher confirmed the other little Vennie's ID was definitely legit, including the red serial number on the back and encased in plastic and that meant I was off to the love motel with the girl who I formerly believed and posted here was too young. And she was awesome. I have her phone number and she's dying to come to my hotel.
All photos are from today and include this story. Ostee Out. Keep On Keepin' On!
Oh fuck! I almost forgot one of the best parts. She has a one-year-old at home and she's still breastfeeding and I got a free sample, jjajajjaa!
Oh yeah the city shots are in front and to the side of the Veracruz Church near Ground Zero and in the one you can see the glass sidewalk that guys discuss or mention frequently at times sometimes here Whatever Whenever.
I know this reads wonky I'm not going to repair or replace my computer until I get back to the United States I'm still using an old cell phone. What does that tell you?
There are f* gorgeous, sweet, clean girls everywhere out here in El Centro, including preggos.
I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in El Centro?
Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?
Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?
Need advice and recommedation from other non-spanish speaking mongers who have tackled the communication issue with SW and casa girls.
DzikaBomba
09-27-21, 10:28
You can take the bus to the Nutibara hotel and avoid the helpers and draggong luggage to the taxis. There is not much difference in distance.Thanks. But I thought that the Area around Nutibara Hotel would be a bit more sketchy for a new arriving Gringo at this time with his Luggage than san Diego mall.
Or is this no difference?
Anyone book 3 hours at New Life? So Can I pop 2-3 x?I would think that would be possible once you pay the girl accordingly. What I have done in the past is to take three girls separately consecutively and get 3 pops. Much more fun in my book.
I guess all the Sosua Simps and Youtube Fukboys coupled with girls finally realizing they can make 5 times as much in El Poblado. Cartagena should see a spike in prices soon as well.
"En el Centro, un rato cuesta en promedio $10.000, mas $3.000 que vale el alquiler ocasional de una pieza en un motel. Sin embargo, hay extranjeras (Venezolanas) que cobran $5.000 o pagan ellas mismas la habitacion, lo que hace ms favorable la transaccion para el cliente."
"Por duro que parezca, $5.000 no representan el fondo de la degradacin del oficio. Luz Mery dijo que junto a los baos pblicos de los parques (esas llamativas casetas de plstico azul), hay mujeres que cobran $3.000 por sexo oral."
- I hope some of you Big Willies bragging about $50 mil tips and buying chicas luxury items can understand this.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/la-prostitucion-esta-migrando-del-centro-al-parque-lleras-MG15759566
SW in El Centro? I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?
Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?
In casas and clubs, its 100% safe (well, as safe as can be). On the street. Up to you. Kit's easy to slip in to the corrosive mentality of thinking everyone in El Centro is a thief, but the reality is that 99.9% of people there are as honest as you or I. But if you want to be extra cautious, you could start by frequenting the bars on Cra 53. These bars have girls working in them and its the closest thing to a "bar girl" scene like you have in Thailand etc. In these bars, you have an extra degree of safety from thieves. Hope that helps.
The Windex Man
09-27-21, 17:56
I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in El Centro?
Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?
Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?
Need advice and recommedation from other non-spanish speaking mongers who have tackled the communication issue with SW and casa girls.No matter where I travel, I don't carry my main phone with me in the streets. That stays in my safe. On the streets in a foreign country, I carry a phone that I wouldn't give a shit about losing like the unlocked Samsung S6 that I purchased off of ebay for 45 bucks last year. Works perfectly. Bought that and as usual will get a local sim card when in town and I'm good. If stolen (which likely won't happen), so what. The phone cost 45 bucks and the most I'll lose is some phone numbers and x-rated pictures.
The ones ending in 03 that do not have sound proof windows are impossible to get any sleep. I know because I was just there. Best to ask for ventanas antiruido.
Anti noise windows. You can look up the available rooms on arbnb. Don't ask the desk for which are the quiet rooms. They will give you a room that is supposed to be quiet and act surprised to find out from you that they are intolerable to sleep. If you are unsure, do not book multiple nights as I know people were complaining that they won't give a refund.
Go to arbnb check for anti noise windows and read the reviews.
San peter, the rooms ending in 01 are the noisiest. Best are the ones ending in 02. The ones ending in 03 are also OK.
I think generally, floors 7 and below are around 30 USD. The higher ones are like 40 to 50 usd. Just an approximation based on my observations..
In casas and clubs, its 100% safe (well, as safe as can be). On the street. Up to you. Kit's easy to slip in to the corrosive mentality of thinking everyone in El Centro is a thief, but the reality is that 99.9% of people there are as honest as you or I. But if you want to be extra cautious, you could start by frequenting the bars on Cra 53. These bars have girls working in them and its the closest thing to a "bar girl" scene like you have in Thailand etc. In these bars, you have an extra degree of safety from thieves. Hope that helps.Thanks for the tips. I will definitely check the Bar scene on CRA 53 - any particular bar that is better then the rest?
I also have a burner phone, MOTO G7 Plus, $160, so I will take the risk with it.
I guess all the Sosua Simps and Youtube Fukboys coupled with girls finally realizing they can make 5 times as much in El Poblado. Cartagena should see a spike in prices soon as well.
"En el Centro, un rato cuesta en promedio $10.000, mas $3.000 que vale el alquiler ocasional de una pieza en un motel. Sin embargo, hay extranjeras (Venezolanas) que cobran $5.000 o pagan ellas mismas la habitacion, lo que hace ms favorable la transaccion para el cliente."
"Por duro que parezca, $5.000 no representan el fondo de la degradacin del oficio. Luz Mery dijo que junto a los baos pblicos de los parques (esas llamativas casetas de plstico azul), hay mujeres que cobran $3.000 por sexo oral."
- I hope some of you Big Willies bragging about $50 mil tips and buying chicas luxury items can understand this.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/la-prostitucion-esta-migrando-del-centro-al-parque-lleras-MG15759566Actually before the Pandemic I remember some of Centro's finest beached whales belching out Sexo solo 10,000 not including the room, and on the backside of the Church girls going for 15,000 including the room.
This is of course before the onslaught of the "Big Willies" aka, the newbie Colombian mongers which have been showing up in herds over the past six months.
Mr Enternational
09-27-21, 18:29
"En el Centro, un rato cuesta en promedio $10.000, mas $3.000 que vale el alquiler ocasional de una pieza en un motel. Sin embargo, hay extranjeras (Venezolanas) que cobran $5.000So what you are saying is centro rats have been being ripped off to the tune of 3 times more than they should have been paying and 6 times more if she is Venezuelan, plus all the extravagant tips. Hell, those overpaying mfs have been giving tips in the amount of more than what the entire service should have cost! Bastards driving up the price.
I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in El Centro?
Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?
Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?
Need advice and recommedation from other non-spanish speaking mongers who have tackled the communication issue with SW and casa girls.Very simple and works like a charm.
Write down on a 3" by 5" card exactly what you want translated from English to Spanish.
Be specific, blow job uncovered as an example, how much time, and how much.
Maybe this sounds odd, but no worries about having to carry your phone with you, and I've seen guys in Tijuana do this and it works.
Good luck.
Appreciate this feedback Fun Luvr! Checking out hotels in that Laureles area. Was thinking about that Poblado area mainly due to Parque Lleras, but after reading more about that place, I'm not really interested in paying the prices the women charge there, so now I am fine with staying in Laureles area instead. Unless I misread something, it looks like Laureles has a park as well. Don't know if similar to Parque Lleras. Still reading and studying.
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Really appreciate everyone's feedback.Parque Lleras is not really about it being a park. It is a very small park with a large area of bars, restaurants, hotels around the area. The parks in Laureles are actually parks, and have no specific nightlife associated with them. So they are in no way similar. But there are a number of restaurants in Laureles in the area of 70th and towards the two parks you would see on maps.
A couple of wrongs turned out right today. First of all I would not have not gone out to El Centro if I knew it was a Sunday, but I thought it was a Saturday. Once I saw all the storefronts closed I sort of figured it out. The right was that it became a fantastic day.
I've been chatting up this cute little tight Vennie chica at the horse statue for a few days. I thought she was too young, but wait, she whipped out her cedula today and it showed that she was 19 yo. I was meeting my Spanish teacher in El Centro for a blowjob so she would not have to travel as far and the cost of a Love Motel was much less than the guest fee at the luxury hotel where I was staying at on Avenida 70. The funny thing there is she had obviously never done anything like that before because when we went into our room at the love Motel she didn't lock the door and one of the staff walked in on us, jajajaja.
Anywho, Spanish Teacher is intelligent, educated and also from Venezuela. After her stellar BJ, I asked Spanish Teacher to go out to the horse statue with me and check out the other little Vennie girl's ID or cedula. Spanish Teacher confirmed the other little Vennie's ID was definitely legit, including the red serial number on the back and encased in plastic and that meant I was off to the love motel with the girl who I formerly believed and posted here was too young. And she was awesome. I have her phone number and she's dying to come to my hotel.
All photos are from today and include this story. Ostee Out. Keep On Keepin' On!
Oh fuck! I almost forgot one of the best parts. She has a one-year-old at home and she's still breastfeeding and I got a free sample, jjajajjaa!
Oh yeah the city shots are in front and to the side of the Veracruz Church near Ground Zero and in the one you can see the glass sidewalk that guys discuss or mention frequently at times sometimes here Whatever Whenever.
I know this reads wonky I'm not going to repair or replace my computer until I get back to the United States I'm still using an old cell phone. What does that tell you?
There are f* gorgeous, sweet, clean girls everywhere out here in El Centro, including preggos.Tried to send you a PM. You have any contact info for the preggo? Was she the only one or there was several?
Showdown.
So what you are saying is centro rats have been being ripped off to the tune of 3 times more than they should have been paying and 6 times more if she is Venezuelan, plus all the extravagant tips. Hell, those overpaying mfs have been giving tips in the amount of more than what the entire service should have cost! Bastards driving up the price.Not exactly Mr. E, the bastards have been driving the prices thru the roof for all the newbie Centro mongers, and there has been some collateral effects for the "bonafide" Centro rats on this board, but they aren't being affected as much as the "know it all" newbie mongers.
The Windex Man
09-27-21, 19:22
Parque Lleras is not really about it being a park. It is a very small park with a large area of bars, restaurants, hotels around the area. The parks in Laureles are actually parks, and have no specific nightlife associated with them. So they are in no way similar. But there are a number of restaurants in Laureles in the area of 70th and towards the two parks you would see on maps.Good info that I'll add to my notes!
Hey mate,
Would you rent an apartment without porter in Cali (in the Granada area) or in Medellin?
If you fuck so often, what precautions should we take in this pandemic time? Fuck with condom and get blowjob without condom?Maybe a mask would be a good thing if you have concerns about Covid.
Thats awesome. How did you manage to find a puta that has so few tattoos. Seems like here once they get a little bit of money, they get another tattoo. Tattoos are a bit dated for me, but if the girl preforms well, whos to complain, not I. Just my humble opinion.
Peace.Once a while you will find one without many, but I never had a Colombian without one so far. In Thailand I had a few without.
Anyone book 3 hours at New Life? So Can I pop 2-3 x?I rather have multiple girls during the day instead of spending to much time with just one.
My suggestion is to book an Arbnb or hotel in either laureles or nearby poblado for a couple of nights. You can take the metro or cab to see el centro and see if that kind of environment suits you? Be aware that a lot of the supporters of el centro here don't venture out at night for good reasons. This board is dominated by members that swear that el centro is great. I don't agree with that but I respect their opinions. I personally don't go there. If you want to stay in an arbnb in laureles, I would be careful about booking a room in SanPeter. The noise level is intolerable unless you are lucky enough to get a sound proof room. Only a few of the rooms provide that. Good luck.I go there myself at night but never alone, with a groups of guys I venture there at night. During the day I am always alone at El centro and I feel fine.
Will also review some past posts from Osteoknot.Search for the word "ayenda".
I want to ask for advice about using the Airport Bus from Rio Negro to Medellin.
I want to use the Bus when I arrive in late October.
I will arrive at about 8 pm in MDE, so when I take the bus I will be at San Diego Mall at about 9 pm (and then need to take a taxi from there to my Hotel in Poblado.
Is this doable and safe to go out from the Bus at this time and at this place with my Luggage and take a taxi from there? Are there Taxis already waiting?At those times just take a cab from the airport to your hotel its only $25.00 dollars. Why bother saving a few pennies if you arrive tired and have to deal with changing transportation.
Thanks for the tips. I will definitely check the Bar scene on CRA 53 - any particular bar that is better then the rest?
I also have a burner phone, MOTO G7 Plus, $160, so I will take the risk with it.Sorry, can't help you with bar names. I am not sure they even have any. I just usually stop where I fancy. Most of them have bedrooms (read: prison cells w chica) attached.
Burner phone at USD 160. Haha. That's about the same price as my phone. I never buy-in to the upsell. Meaning. The benefits you get for paying more (usually a load of features that you never use. Hehe).
Fridays Facebook date was 1. 5 hours late which I understand is fairly normal but it was pissing me off but it was around 7-8 on a Friday night and traffic was bad. Paid 150 k plus transport 2 ways, she was smaller than I expected from her pictures, which I like, and was cute. DFK, DATY, BBBJ and CFS. We drank a little, danced and I got a pretty good 20 minute massage before she left. She spent a lot of time taking selfies on the bed and in front of the window. I tried to get a few pics but she said that a foreigner posted her pics online once and now she doesn't let people take pics. Overall the experience was pretty good but I have come to realize that I prefer the street scene to the FB scene.
Saturday I was very tired and slept most of the day and then headed to LA 70 for some food and beers. Met up with some Americans and was drinking with them until some arguing started so I decided to leave and head to the hotel. Found out Sunday that one of the guys dropped dead about 10 feet from where we were drinking. Apparently he was heavy into the drugs and I was trying to decipher what the Colombians were trying to say happened on Sunday. Almost sounds like he was in a fight with a chica and she drugged him and left him on the street to die but my spanish isn't good enough to overhear people talking in spanish to each other. Just before I found that out, I was in centro Sunday, got there around noon and grabbed some soup and limonaide from a vender and sat in the park people watching. Walked around and sat at one of the bars to have a beer, it was really hot Sunday afternoon. An older gal, skinny, not ugly and with really big tits saw me and sat next to me, chatted in my poor spanish but was thinking to my self to find something younger and cuter. Walked around some more but the vision of her tits drew me back to her and she asked 50 k, got her down to 30 k, went to the room, surprised that it was 16 k when I was used to 7 K rooms but what ever. Played with her tits for a bit and she started CBJ, it was the best blowjob I have gotten in Colombia, a lot of ball licking and sucking, deep throat included. When time for sex I just wanted her to continue sucking. Finished in the condom, a quick shower and back to the street. Walked around a bit and was feeling like going again, turned the corner and a trans grabbed my junk and tried to pull me to a room LOL. Staved her / him off and lost my desire to fuck LOL. Walked to the San Antonio station and found a soccer shirt in my size that I was looking for and back to LA 70, where I found out about the guy dying.
Some observations and notes from the recent posts that I've read. My hotel is on the south end of LA 70 and it's only a 10 minute walk to the Estadio metro station. 3 stops and your at San Antonio station, 3 minute walk to Park Botero, no need to change trains and go the 1 stop, it's really close, just follow the overhead metro line. If your going to stay anywhere around LA 70, there is going to be noise until 4 am or so, being higher up helps but bring earplugs or be a heavy sleeper, I seem to have gotten used to the noise and can sleep with it. If your going to go out drinking, don't get drunk, only carry on you what you can afford to loose and "No dar papaya" as the saying goes. I do carry a cheap cell that I bought here in Colombia and have to use it at least once when with a girl as my spanish is not great, just be aware of when you pull it out and keep it in your pocket all other times and you'll be fine. Get a Civica Eventual card and put 20k on it from any metro station ticket booth, it will last a long time and shows how much left on the card everytime you use it. If you plan to take the tramway to Park Arvi it does cost more, 9k each way I think, so you have to load more on the card.
Hope that helped a little or was at least a bit entertaining. I've got 2 more days in Medellin and leave for the Amazon region on the 30th, I'll try to post any update in the Other Areas section of the forum. Got a manicure, pedicure and massage booked off of Mileroticos in 2 hours so we'll see how that goes.
Very simple and works like a charm.
Write down on a 3" by 5" card exactly what you want translated from English to Spanish.
Be specific, blow job uncovered as an example, how much time, and how much.
Maybe this sounds odd, but no worries about having to carry your phone with you, and I've seen guys in Tijuana do this and it works.
Good luck.Thanks. That is excellent idea. Have few flash cards with spanish translations and whip them out as needed to solicit.
Mr Enternational
09-27-21, 23:36
At those times just take a cab from the airport to your hotel its only $25.00 dollars. Why bother saving a few pennies if you arrive tired and have to deal with changing transportation.Because it going to take basically the same time and only cost like $7 total versus the $25 that you mention. Only takes 1 second to get your bag out of a bus and throw it into a taxi.
...Only takes 1 second to get your bag out of a bus and throw it into a taxi.Someone will do it for you and hail the taxi for 2 mil.
JonesLover
09-27-21, 23:57
Maybe a mask would be a good thing if you have concerns about Covid.But Covid is also transmitted by touching things. She should give blowjob with a condom too. Ahahahah.
Fucking is a big risk this time.
Following 4 days in Bogota, my first 5 days ever in Medellin. Stayed at the Haven in El Poblado, got the suite with indoor jacuzzi, all good but overall hotel services is just average. Focused on SA / Tinder / FB online game. I liked city in itself, nice weather, clean, and nice scenery / greenery compared to Bogota. A little reminiscent of BKK.
Day 1, I arrived in the afternoon, could not meet an online chica so I just went out to see Parque Lleras, nice partying area but not my kind of pick up place. Then headed to La Isla Club. Was hoping something like Thai agogo. Was there on a Sunday, a slow day I guess. Paid the entry fee and got a beer, watched what was happening, and nothing was happening. In my 40 min there only saw 1 girl dancing, most of the girls sitting on the couch on their phone or talking among themselves, and nothing better than a 7/10. Headed back to my hotel, disappointed with my first day here.
Day 2, met a SA mamacita that I was talking to since a couple of weeks, she is a bit older (29) but is cute and in acceptable shape. She works as a webcam model during the night, where I watched her before coming to Colombia. Said she was working as a vendor for a drink distribution company before. Met at 2 PM in my hotel. She came dressed very nicely, make up and was very sweet and polite and seemed very interested in me. We talked using translator for some time, then relaxed in the Jacuzzi, started kissing DFK for forever then went to bed for BBBJ / BBFS / CIP. She was very sweet and very much into it. She left around 6 PM as she starts at 9 PM the webcam. Paid 200 k. Told me she wanted to see me everyday LOL. I ended up meeting her day 4 and 5 as well, same 200 k per meet and she provided same services including also CIM with swallow, staying a 4-5 hours each time but it was more because she knew I wanted to go out at night to party rather than her wanting to leave, smart girl. She said I was her 1st guy ever from the app and 1st foreigner she has been with. She also took me to Parque Sabaneta to show me around. It is the kind of girl who would like to be my GF, but she is a bit older for me.
Day 3, there was a FB girl who I talked to before coming, but was not sure about meeting her as she looked a bit vulgar on the pics, although slutty at the same time. Nevertheless I decided to meet her, and she looked much better in person, 21 years old paisa with a cute teenage face and braces. A 7.5/10 face and 7. 5/10 balanced body. She spoke good English. She provided deepthroat BBBJ with loads of spit, DFK, BBFS. CIP for 1st shot and CIM with swallow for 2nd shot. A good fuck and good attitude. 350 k for a couple of hours. Was offering anal as well.
Day 4, called another FB to come over, 19 years old. She had a teenage spinner type body, 7/10 but an average face 6. 5/10. She did everything good though, BBBJ / BBFS / CIM but no DFK. 250 k. Was ok but not worth repeating.
Day 5, tried to find a girl for party and fuck at night, took a while but couldn't find any connection, until a girl from SA suddenly messaged me at 8 PM asking if I wanted to meet, looked very sexy, so yes, and quickly agreed 300 k for party and fun from 10 PM to 4 AM. Was perfect for me since I was leaving at 5 AM to the airport. She arrived 1 hour late at 11 PM, 1st girl who was late so far. But she looked stunning, que rico! The wait was well worth it. A sexy / cute face, a solid 8/10 on the face which becomes a 8.5/10 with make up and spinner type body 8.5/10. Dressed properly for a night out in the club. Best looking girl so far, on my last day in Colombia. Did some small talk in the room, then headed to Parque Lleras hands in hand, she 1st took me to the rooftop of Charlee for a few drinks, then to a club (Moet? We took a shisha and a bottle of vodka, and spent the night drinking and dancing. We managed to finished the whole bottle, which was surprising but meant trouble as well. Left around 3 AM, she was drunk, and me too but less than her, but managed to take her to my hotel without trouble thankfully. Got her naked, did DATY on her and tried BBFS but gave up after a few min, too much alcohol in my blood to get things done. She felt asleep, and I had to dress her up myself, and force her out of bed at 5 AM as I had to take my taxi. Too bad I did not meet her before as I would have loved to explore further with her. Fuck. Planning to meet her again next trip. 300 k for her + about 850 k in the clubs.
That is it, I hope it can give newbies here of an overview of possibilities with the online stuff. My first impression on Medellin scene was negative, but gradually turned positive, and with more time and attention in the online game, it could be great. But already a favorite place together with BKK / Patt / MNL / CEB. Also I was there on the wrong days here for partying, that did not help either. Was surprised that all my fuck here were BBFS, whether I asked for it or not. Can't complain overall had a good fun with the Latinas. Back soon.
Member #4740
09-28-21, 02:39
Why this article so negative?
https://www.traveloffpath.com/is-medellin-safe-to-visit-top-9-things-travelers-need-to-know/
But Covid is also transmitted by touching things. She should give blowjob with a condom too. Ahahahah.
Fucking is a big risk this time.Agreed. Hard to practice our hobby and be completely safe from Covid (among other things).
TijTraveler
09-28-21, 05:13
Hey everyone!
I'm a 36 yr old American going to Medellin for the first time. Experienced in Tijuana and MX, but not in Medellin.
Is there anywhere to look for pricing guidelines to make sure I'm not getting ripped off?
I'm seeing 200-300 k as a baseline.
Any tips for Seeking or Tinder semipros?
Anything you recommend reading to gain knowledge?
Mojo Bandit
09-28-21, 05:15
Thanks for the tips. I will definitely check the Bar scene on CRA 53 - any particular bar that is better then the rest?
I also have a burner phone, MOTO G7 Plus, $160, so I will take the risk with it.For other people who do not have a burner phone but want one, I recommend just searching Amazon for a basic smart phone, I find them for around 50 - 90 USD. Some of them have a dual SIM. I used to do this and load a Google Fi service as one SIM with a USA number, to simplify it people who may need to get in touch me from the USA, they do not need mess with international codes etc. Then I would put a local SIM from Colombia or where ever in the other slot. Do this and you need to switch back and forth though, I keep mine in USA mode until I want to try and reach a chica or whatever, though whatsapp is going to work either way so that is best.
Agreed. Hard to practice our hobby and be completely safe from Covid (among other things).Don't forget to give your cock a good rub of alcohol before you enter, just to be doubly sure. We can't be taking 0. 0001% risks can we!
Jeez, with attitudes like that, I am surprised you ever made it out of your house.
Elvis 2008
09-28-21, 07:18
For other people who do not have a burner phone but want one, I recommend just searching Amazon for a basic smart phone, I find them for around 50 - 90 USD. Some of them have a dual SIM. I used to do this and load a Google Fi service as one SIM with a USA number, to simplify it people who may need to get in touch me from the USA, they do not need mess with international codes etc. Then I would put a local SIM from Colombia or where ever in the other slot. Do this and you need to switch back and forth though, I keep mine in USA mode until I want to try and reach a chica or whatever, though whatsapp is going to work either way so that is best.Google Fi is really the best way to go to Colombia. Unfortunately, some of the phones you listed probably are not going to work with google Fi.
You can see the ones that work here: https://fi.google.com/compatibility.
You can also buy the phones direct from google. I guess you could use a gift card if you wanted to be anonymous and give a fake name or something. https://fi.google.com/about/phones/#explore.
They have some Motorola phones for $99 and a Samsung 5 g phone for $179, never seen one that cheap.
Mojo Bandit
09-28-21, 10:48
Following 4 days in Bogota, my first 5 days ever in Medellin.Thank you for taking the time to type all this up.
It does not take the same time as an uber or taxi. Getting on a taxi or uber is much quicker and comfortable than a bus. Unless your goal is to be at El centro. In that case, I guess it doesn't matter.
I like to be comfortable and relaxed while being driven door to door to my apartment or hotel. After traveling so long to get to Medellin do you really care about the $18 or $17 saved? When you can relax in a car as compared to a crowded bus?
Because it going to take basically the same time and only cost like $7 total versus the $25 that you mention. Only takes 1 second to get your bag out of a bus and throw it into a taxi..
I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in El Centro?
Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?
Is it safe to use a phone and using Google translate in Casa or club?
Need advice and recommedation from other non-spanish speaking mongers who have tackled the communication issue with SW and casa girls.Memorize and practice a few phrases and offer exactly what you want and for how much. Or have a cheaper secondary phone and pull her to the side and pull out the phone.
My fellow pussy hounds. I love these European looking blanca Latinas. How is the selection in Medellin and Colombia overall?
Best Regards.
El Mechanico
09-28-21, 16:45
Why this article so negative?
https://www.traveloffpath.com/is-medellin-safe-to-visit-top-9-things-travelers-need-to-know/Another title for this article could have been "Things you should have learned in 3rd Grade!
El Mechanico.
Feel like this has been answered before, but I forget if so. My friend pulled a chick from Gusto who agreed to 300 k at the club but changed her tune to 300 USD at the hotel. Obviously, he kicked her ass to the curb. But at this point it's already 4 am. Any other options available? Just curious for future reference. For me, my main focus is probably going to be earlier hour casas like new life, sandals, energa, loutron, etc and prebooked appts with fb chicas. I am interested in knowing what my options will be so I won't be left holding my dick como mi amigo.Have a back up girl that is always awake or down at those times. Doesn't need to be a stunner. Be clear with everything before you leave the club and mention 300 mil so they know you are talking pesos. If you use translate take a screen shot or I think it keeps a history maybe. I went to gustos last week with a group and we went back to their place and similar thing happened to them. My girl was dope but they agreed to 600 for theirs so she mentioned once that were getting more but she said it was fine LOL. Their girls kept talking money and ruing the guys mood and in the morning I think they were hella annoyed, they had to leave to go to the ATM to get them to leave.
Basically I batted 500 yesterday. I had not spent any time alone with Hot Housewife in weeks and she's been burning up my Whassapp so I caved on the first day I moved into a new luxury hotel on Avenue 70. Minutes after she showed up she got a call from her significant other and had to hightail it out of here. That wasn't a total failure because she came back at 9 this morning for a great session, I love getting rid of morning wood that way.
The other flop was I chatted up a waitress at a restaurant I visited maybe a dozen times over the past year and she said she would go to my hotel with me when she got off. But when I went back 8 hours later she looked beat and it was 2 in the morning and actually I'm kind of glad she said she was too tired. * That may not turn out to be a total flop either because she is definitely still interested.
I have fucked regular girls more in the United States and here after knowing them for 5 minutes and I have some time set them up for years before the dirty deed was done. There seems to be no Rhyme or Reason or pattern to that for me.
A 500 average is actually pretty good for mongering because it's a slugging percentage and we're all trying to hit home runs.
I had a second session in El Centro with the tight little Vennie chica who I haven't named yet. She was phenomenal and she's in that sweet spot of just enough experience to be hawt as fuck but she's still young and doesn't know what she's got.
For example, she shared her breast milk again and that's definitely worth a valid upcharge, but that aspect of our little business deal never crossed her mind. Even better we got to bond a little bit over the discussion of her one-year-old son which is why she is still milking but she's not trying to glom on to me in any unnatural novio way. She is exactly right where I want her. We're waiting to get together at my hotel and I am going to offer her 150 mil plus taxi and the vibe I'm getting is that she will be more than happy with that but we'll see.
Obviously, the milking photos are of the hot Vinny chica and there's one photo of Hot Housewife in cut-offs. And several fotos of the perfect curves of Sexy Dexy's sweet ass.
Just like there's no crying in baseball, there's no whining allowed in mongering. Yesterday may not have been Stellar but as I've been often known to say, a bad day in Medellin beats a good day in the United States almost every time. Keep On Keepin' On!
Sent from my Galaxy.
Feel like this has been answered before, but I forget if so. My friend pulled a chick from Gusto who agreed to 300 k at the club but changed her tune to 300 USD at the hotel. Obviously, he kicked her ass to the curb. But at this point it's already 4 am. Any other options available? Just curious for future reference. For me, my main focus is probably going to be earlier hour casas like new life, sandals, energa, loutron, etc and prebooked appts with fb chicas. I am interested in knowing what my options will be so I won't be left holding my dick como mi amigo.Girls go to Gusto to make money. They know this is where the inexperienced go to overpay for their jollies. I guess there is an irrestible attraction to going to a bar where every girl is available if you have the right price. The fact that they quote their price in dollars should tell you something. More experienced savvy visitors (and residents) don't spend their money in Gusto. There is an unlimited supply of FaceBook girls or other on-line escort agency girls or upscale casas or clubs where you can greatly improve the quality of experience you are buying and at a much more reasonable price. For the 300 USD you could have 5 high end FaceBook girls that are probably a lot better looking and a lot more pleasurable (I. E. Not so mercenary).
It just shocks the hell out of me that so many people know this board and yet still go to Gusto instead of the wealth of alternatives. If you just have to be a vacation millionaire and spend big sums of money there are a lot of Instagram models that would be happy to help you fund their retirement accounts.
It does not take the same time as an uber or taxi. Getting on a taxi or uber is much quicker and comfortable than a bus. Unless your goal is to be at El centro. In that case, I guess it doesn't matter.
I like to be comfortable and relaxed while being driven door to door to my apartment or hotel. After traveling so long to get to Medellin do you really care about the $18 or $17 saved? When you can relax in a car as compared to a crowded bus?
.Some due travel on a tight budget I guess, I am not a big spender but when I fly for over 7 or 10 hours I want to get to my hotel and no headaches.
Another title for this article could have been "Things you should have learned in 3rd Grade!
El Mechanico.The newbies will absorb that info and hopefully be safe.
They say it's easier to get a puta to go to the dentist than it is to get her out in the rain, jaja. But I like a challenge so I headed down to El Centro umbrella in hand. Pickens were definitely slim. The rookie mistake was I definitely spotted one girl that would have been a wet dream for 90% of the guys on this board, a young tight but not too skinny Vennie with a nice just thick enough ass, beautiful face, average sized boobs, and I got a great Vibe on the most important part of all, her personality.
She spotted me too because she stepped out in the rain and crossed my path about 2 ft in front of me but like a dumb fuck I didn't follow her. I took my eyes off of her for 1 minute and I never saw her again.
If you see a hot one don't continue to do laps, don't make the rounds, don't go to the drugstore to buy lube, take her with you. Don't let her out of your sight. I can't tell you how many times when I was first starting out and yet again today like a dumbass, I would see a girl that I would die for but thought maybe the grass was still a little greener and would continue to do rounds and I would never see her again.
If you see a hot one go up and start talking to her right away you can change your mind after you get a feel for her personality but the really hot ones are not out there for long.
There is a smorgasbord of girls burning up my WhatsApp for tonight but I haven't seen my actual novia Catgiirl in a few days. She doesn't even know what hotel I'm in at the moment but I think I'll tell her and let her come over for a couple of nights. The problem is once she knows where I am I got to deal with the possibility of a surprise drop in but they won't let her through at the front desk if I tell them and after all she is my favorite, so why not? Ostee Out.
Lois Sanborn
09-28-21, 23:34
Girls go to Gusto to make money. They know this is where the inexperienced go to overpay for their jollies. I guess there is an irrestible attraction to going to a bar where every girl is available if you have the right price. The fact that they quote their price in dollars should tell you something. More experienced savvy visitors (and residents) don't spend their money in Gusto. There is an unlimited supply of FaceBook girls or other on-line escort agency girls or upscale casas or clubs where you can greatly improve the quality of experience you are buying and at a much more reasonable price. For the 300 USD you could have 5 high end FaceBook girls that are probably a lot better looking and a lot more pleasurable (I. E. Not so mercenary).
It just shocks the hell out of me that so many people know this board and yet still go to Gusto instead of the wealth of alternatives. If you just have to be a vacation millionaire and spend big sums of money there are a lot of Instagram models that would be happy to help you fund their retirement accounts.Thanks; fortunately, I for one am blessed with the ability of reading comprehension, which is why I specifically mentioned my other options like New life, zandaly, loutron and fb chicas. However, as I also mentioned, those are all day time / early night options and for fb you need to set up citas in advance. All I asked if there were any other night time options. I know gusto's is overpriced. I know lleras is overpriced. I'm all for fucking at casas and fucking fb chicas. I literally mentioned it in my post. As I mentioned, I'm with friends, and they're not into daytime fucking or scheduling appointments in advance. They just want to drink, get fucked up and grab a puta if they're feeling horny at the end of the night. I can still obviously fuck fb chicas and at casas when I'm not with them, but sometimes after a long night of partying, it's 3 am, I'm also horny as fuck, and have nothing set up in advance. All I asked is if there were any better late night options.
if there were any better late night options.Well theres plenty of clubs in centro. Fraction of the price of gustos.
3 am. Wow, I am usually waking up in 3 or 4 hours, last thing I want is to take a girl at 3 am, haha. Each to their own. I struggle to stay awake for the clubs to open. No chance I am around when they close. Hehe.
BlackThought
09-29-21, 01:07
It does not take the same time as an uber or taxi. Getting on a taxi or uber is much quicker and comfortable than a bus. Unless your goal is to be at El centro. In that case, I guess it doesn't matter.
I like to be comfortable and relaxed while being driven door to door to my apartment or hotel. After traveling so long to get to Medellin do you really care about the $18 or $17 saved? When you can relax in a car as compared to a crowded bus?.Exactly, it's crazy how some of these guys guilt trip / give shit to people for spending a few extra dollars for comfort and convenience.
... All I asked if there were any other night time options. ... but sometimes after a long night of partying, it's 3 am, .... All I asked is if there were any better late night options.La Isla is still open at 3 am. You can continue until morning next door after La Isla is closed. The staff will invite you before it closes. The other is Faisan. Ask girls at Fase2 where do they go after the club closes.
LoveItHere69
09-29-21, 06:14
You have any contact info for the preggo? Was she the only one or there was several?Do some reading. Post #48976.
Other Areas Post #769-771.
The numbers have dropped a little but weeks from now could return.
You assume that the guys that post the most know the most.
I know there are some guys that know a lot but never post. Wish I could meet some of them.
JohnHancock11
09-29-21, 07:14
After a couple failed attempts, I finally made it to Medellin. This is how it went down.
The trip was planned very last minute. I made the flight and Airbnb reservation 2 days before I left. I wanted to stay at San Peter but no rooms available so I found an Airbnb in Poblado. $33 USD per night on a quiet street with 24 hour security. And I contacted the host and confirmed that chicas were allowed, just no more than 2 at a time. I thought it would be a little out of the way but I only paid $5 k to $15 k COP per trip for Uber or Indriver the entire trip.
FB worked better than I could've imagined. I spent the past couple of months building up a friends list of about 160. The day before I left I posted that I was coming the next day. I had about 10 women message me that first day. I posted again when I landed and had about 10 more message me. That was way more than enough for the 4 days I was able to be in town.
Day 1 - landed in afternoon, white taxi to poblado, quick trip to the market for supplies and I was ready to go. Had my first FB chica coming at 1700. At 1630 she texts me that she actually does not have a cedula which I had previously confirmed with her. The Airbnb host said it was a very strict policy that no one without cedula gets in (more on that in a minute). I was hoping this was not going to be indicative of how the trip was going to go. So I told her sorry about your luck and moved on to FB chica #2 who arrived at 1900. Luciana, 21 year old spinner with braces from Medellin. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, stayed a couple of hours 150 k mas taxi.
Day 2- Slept in til 1100, lunch at some place near the airbnb but I didn't write down the name because it was just average. Headed to Zandaly at 1400. About 10 girls in the lineup. I tried to do what I had read on the forum. I didn't go for the one I thought was the hottest. I chose the one that gave me the best smile during the intro. Her name was Aleja or something like that, she had dyed red hair. 50 k for 30 min. I asked for BBBJ for propina and she said 50 k more. I said no thanks. She then said 30 k, and well, I can't pass up a bargain. It was a meh session. Her body was fun but her attitude did not match the smile she had given me. Walked around a bit but had another FB chica coming at 1900 so headed back to the airbnb but stopped for cigars at Habanos point. The guy working was nice but the selection was small and not worth the price in my opinion.
Yuriza showed up at 1915. From Bello and very sexy. I feel like that was true for every chick I met from Bello. Anyhow she arrives and upon entering informs me that she actually does not have a cedula. You've got to be f*cking kidding me. I had confirmed with her in our conversation and she had definitely said yes. So the security guard tells her she can't come in. She starts sweet talking him and they are having a conversation (which I of course don't understand) but 3 minutes later he says go ahead but just make sure you walk her out. Not what I expected and what I should have done was just kicked her out. Instead we go up and have a couple drinks and after carefully reviewing her FB and IG I was convinced enough she was 18 to let her stay. I know it was a bad idea. It (probably) won't happen again. She was great though. Started off slow but after DATY and she came it was game on. DFK, BBBJ, lots of energy with multiple positions. 150 k mas taxi.
Day 3- Went out in the AM and got my Covid test from a place called Unigem. 90 k and had my result in my email in a couple hours. Another FB chica Mariana showed up around 1300. Another petite spinner paisa (I have a type) Said she was 24 but looked younger. Was a little bummed when she started sniffling after she arrived and clearly had a runny nose. She said it was from walking home in the rain the night before. Maybe, but I wasn't taking any chances. Well, not as many chances so no DFK or DATY but I could not pass up BBBJ. She had a gorgeous booty and the dancing and grinding was excellent. She only stayed about 90 min because I was done with her possibly contaminated ass.
In the evening met up with BM SankarShetty and he showed me the area around San Peter and we grabbed some dinner with his girl. She left and we checked out a casa near San Peter but it was no bueno. He was beat and called it quits for the night so I grabbed an Uber over to La Isla. Got there around 2300 there were probably at least 60 women there. There was a big party going on in the back. At least half of the women were back there and a ton of dudes. They were throwing money up in the air, the women were cheering. I was talking to a guy at the bar. He was from Bogota but spoke some English and he said he thought they were either into drugs or music. Either way they threw around a lot of money. I stayed a couple hours, drank a couple 30 k coronas and got a couple numbers but just couldn't bring myself to spend the 300 k for 45 minutes. There were loads of beautiful women but just not worth it IMO.
Day 4- Met up with SS again and he took me on a lap in Centro, through Botero and around the back of the church. We checked out the lineups at New Life, Zandaly, Aiffe and Club Sexy de Amigas. Found a cute little thing at Club Sexy named Hilary. This time I went with the one I thought was the hottest and it worked out great. She had a great attitude. CBJ, DFK, many positions. 80 k for an hour and she gave me a good workout. Got her number and will probably repeat.
Met up with SS again in the evening at Parque Lleras right around midnight. Holy f*ck what a sight. Walked inside a couple of the clubs. Talked to some chicas on the street. Met a couple 19 year old Vennie beauties. They originally asked 400 k each but ended up taking 200 k. Taxi to a love motel and had an average session. Not bad, not great. Not worth reporting.
Day 5- Needed to leave for the airport at 1100. Had a FB chica coming at 0900. We had been trying to arrange something since the first day but she takes classes and it just hadn't worked out. But I sure as shit am glad it did on the last day. This was the best cita of the entire trip. She was total GFE. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, 69 with deepthroat, gagging, saliva dripping, ball licking. My gawd. She would've done BBFS but I choose not to with anyone. Plus she was just cool as hell. She pulled out a joint but I don't partake. She walked out at 1050 right as I got the text from the taxi that he was waiting outside. I will absolutely see her again.
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I went to another cigar shop at some point called La Cava Puro. Much better selection and prices. They have a house brand of cigar which was fantastic.
Many thanks to all the BM's for the valuable info. Hopefully I have contributed something in return. I'm already trying to figure out how to arrange my life to get back to Colombia as soon as possible.
SankarShetty
09-29-21, 13:04
Yesterday there were protest marches in several areas in the city. Areas in Belen and aranhuej had some damage due to riots. La linea was present. Cops stopping vehicles and motos all over the town and checking IDs. Be careful out there.
SankarShetty
09-29-21, 13:14
Check the link and there are videos all over the face book.
https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/disturbios-en-belen-por-choques-entre-policia-y-manifestantes-DE15779569
I know we pay them to leave but first of all I don't pay Catgirl, directly. She is my Numero Uno Paisa Novia and I spend ten times more money on her then any puta, willingly. Waking up next to her is one of the best feelings I get in the world.
Point a camera at her and she will strike a pose. She is sporting that shorts set that I bought her in El Centro the other day for under five bucks.
The one photo is a friendly reminder on the excellent ROI from purchasing a cheap mirror, if you are here for any length of time and are having girls over at your place. I know it sounds crazy to some of you, but don't knock it until you've tried it. I've never seen a feminine culture more obsessed with selfies and mirrors that the Colombianas. Don't try to figure it out just accept it that's not a negative thing and you will be rewarded.
My phone is inserting the asterisks ** and I'm too lazy to remove them.
Thanks; fortunately, I for one am blessed with the ability of reading comprehension, which is why I specifically mentioned my other options like New life, zandaly, loutron and fb chicas. However, as I also mentioned, those are all day time / early night options and for fb you need to set up citas in advance. All I asked if there were any other night time options. I know gusto's is overpriced. I know lleras is overpriced. I'm all for fucking at casas and fucking fb chicas. I literally mentioned it in my post. As I mentioned, I'm with friends, and they're not into daytime fucking or scheduling appointments in advance. They just want to drink, get fucked up and grab a puta if they're feeling horny at the end of the night. I can still obviously fuck fb chicas and at casas when I'm not with them, but sometimes after a long night of partying, it's 3 am, I'm also horny as fuck, and have nothing set up in advance. All I asked is if there were any better late night options.There's an easy solution. Pick a few Facebook girls, pay them taxi to and from Parque Lleras and ask them to come drinking and dancing with you and your friends, with an agreed upon price if anyone wants to take one back to the room. You pay more for drinks and taxis, but you don't have to deal with girls quoting prices in dollars.
If you pick one girl and ask her to bring some friends, you only pay for 1 taxi.
The Tall Man
09-29-21, 16:45
After a couple failed attempts, I finally made it to Medellin. This is how it went down.
The trip was planned very last minute. I made the flight and Airbnb reservation 2 days before I left. I wanted to stay at San Peter but no rooms available so I found an Airbnb in Poblado. $33 USD per night on a quiet street with 24 hour security. And I contacted the host and confirmed that chicas were allowed, just no more than 2 at a time. I thought it would be a little out of the way but I only paid $5 k to $15 k COP per trip for Uber or Indriver the entire trip.
FB worked better than I could've imagined. I spent the past couple of months building up a friends list of about 160. The day before I left I posted that I was coming the next day. I had about 10 women message me that first day. I posted again when I landed and had about 10 more message me. That was way more than enough for the 4 days I was able to be in town.Looks like you enjoyed your 5 days here can you just imagine what it is like as I now have lived in Medellin for 5 years, god and me only knows that it is non-stop fun and am still building up steam and rolling faster and faster.
Yes I too like that cigar lounge, good selection and the house cigar is damn good!
Yesterday I had some shopping to do, looking for a special exercise device which I found in a sports shop on Junin in centro.
As it was raining yesterday I wanted to get out of the rain so hopped into Aromina Spa in centro, saw the so-so line up of about a dozen chicas ranging from a 4 to a solid 7 and so choose a mid 20 something vennie, 70 mil for an hour and actually enjoyed my time with her, very sweet and warm as we laid cuddled up for the first 15 minutes just warming our bodies up with the cold rainy weather right outside. Gave her a little tip as she was the perfect fix for the Tall Man on this somewhat cold afternoon.
Now today, as it unfolds, which paisa or Vennie will receive my good loving is yet to be seen. That is the fun of living here and not having any thing or anyone to drag you down, just live and let live.
The Tall Man.
Balimassage
09-29-21, 17:36
Anyone know any gals that can DT? Send me a PM or share with the team. Love the Colombian ladies but BJ's don't seem to be their forte.Any new intel in this area? I'm back and looking for some awesome head!
JohnnyWalker55
09-29-21, 17:38
Tweaked my back in the gym a few days ago, it's been a pain.
Tried using the search function for almost an hour as I know this has been discussed ad infinitum, but no results haha.
So anyone know any good massage places that really get in there? Not just the fake oil massages at casas jajaja.
Happy ending preferable but not required LOL!
TijTraveler
09-29-21, 18:15
You know nothing yet your starting point for newbies is the most expensive and the most dangerous. Consider yourself drugged and robbed. No, I will not explain. Do some research.Thanks.
I've read more and have learned of the dangers. I'll probably stick to the casas because you can negotiate BBBJ's. Then expand from there as I am here longer.
Tweaked my back in the gym a few days ago, it's been a pain.
Tried using the search function for almost an hour as I know this has been discussed ad infinitum, but no results haha.
So anyone know any good massage places that really get in there? Not just the fake oil massages at casas jajaja.
Happy ending preferable but not required LOL!The places in Centro Comercial Rio Sur do a good job with the massage and happy ending is available. If it's still there, there was a sports massage place on one of the streets between Parque Poblado and Parque Lleras. I think it was 2 blocks east of Avenida Poblado close to Calle 9.
Litmus Smut
09-29-21, 18:29
I've seen a lot of posts about prearranging meet ups via making Facebook friends.
When going down that route, what search criteria do you use to start? As a Facebook ludite, I'm not too save on that platform.
From what I'm reading, there been a lot of success with cute girls at today's rates.
Tweaked my back in the gym a few days ago, it's been a pain.
Tried using the search function for almost an hour as I know this has been discussed ad infinitum, but no results haha.
So anyone know any good massage places that really get in there? Not just the fake oil massages at casas jajaja.
Happy ending preferable but not required LOL!Sports Massage Medellin.
Cra 42 # 9 - 13, Parque poblado, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.
ColombiaLover
09-29-21, 21:56
Glad I missed that! Just arrived today. Traffic was light compared to normal. No issues that I saw coming in from Las Palmas, through San Diego area and on to Laureles. Hope the protests are short-lived. All is well in my area at the moment.
Yesterday there were protest marches in several areas in the city. Areas in Belen and aranhuej had some damage due to riots. La linea was present. Cops stopping vehicles and motos all over the town and checking IDs. Be careful out there.
Lois Sanborn
09-29-21, 23:42
Thanks for the tips everyone, if I try any of them out I'll report back on how it went.
No there are no good late night options. Contact any girl from any source. Even ones you have known for years. They, like all women around the world, will be an hour or more late and that is if they show up at all. You want to wait for someone that is going to be late if they even show up all at 1:00 am?
The correct way is to hunt and get your rocks off early so you can relax. Maybe even recharge and have a second one late at night after drinking.
Let us recap. So you and your buddies came to Colombia to drink which you could do at home or even in your closet if you choose to do so? You would prefer to drink with your friends rather than have sex with a hot young 20 something your old? You stated "IF they are feeling horny at the end of the night". You fools have your priorities all messed up! I would find new friends! Sounds like kids that prioritize games or alcohol over women. I am disgusted.You're absolutely right. Since I've been here, I've really come to understand how much time and money I've wasted not fucking working girls. I could've got more. If I made more money. Heh. I threw away so much money. You have no idea. I didn't do enough putas. My car. Why did I keep my car? Ten putas right there. Ten more putas. That bottle of vodka at the club. Two spinners. It was grey goose. Two more spinners. Could have gotten two more spinners for it. At least one. Would have gotten one more. One more creampie. For this. I could've gotten one more person, and I didn't. I'm disgusted with myself.
Anyways, besides Lleras chicas, I've started lining up some incalls from Pasion. One annoying thing is that whenever I message them, they almost always have taken a full day before a first response. I'm booking 2 hrs which needs some time in advance for scheduling reasons, but I'll report back when I see how those go. Also checked out jade spa for sheer convenience to Poblado. Not that many options, only 3 chicas when I went in and pretty mediocre overall. You also do it this narrow massage table, which is pretty uncomfortable. However, at least you get the massage for the full time allotted even after the deed is done, which for me was an hour for 160 k. I would probably only ever go back for the convenience.
I think the alcohol and partying phase is done, regardless Those constant hard nights seem to have worn on my compatriots as well. One unfortunate side effect is that I've just moved to Loma verde apartments, which I've found out is guest unfriendly. They explicitly state no prostitution, and while I doubt it is enforced, they do have a guest limit of 4, total. That is, you and three other guests who are registered are allowed in your room, and any more new guests past that costs 100 k each. So in theory you can bring up to 3 chicas and keep rotating between those three each night. I'm probably just going to start directing fb chicas to a love motel to meet up at, though. Would rather minimize the opportunity for anyone with sticky fingers to nab my stuff anyway.
LoveItHere69
09-30-21, 06:24
I'm probably just going to start directing fb chicas to a love motel to meet up at, though. Would rather minimize the opportunity for anyone with sticky fingers to nab my stuff anyway.It sucks waiting at your own hotel or apartment for a girl who will most likely be late or not show. Now you are going to wait at a love hotel? That would really suck. I have never done the Facebook chicks. Not sure how responsive they will be to meeting or having their "date" at a love hotel. What would go through your mind if she did not want to meet at your "nice" place but rather a "love" hotel. She may see red flags. I would because that is not normal.
Faster and easier to go to a casa / spa or Centro. Just grab and go. If she is not good then little money is lost and you can grab the next one minutes later to take for a test drive. PM me and I can take you to Zandaly and New Life. Visit both and only takes 1 hour. You should be able to find one you like.
JohnHancock11
09-30-21, 06:47
I've seen a lot of posts about prearranging meet ups via making Facebook friends.
When going down that route, what search criteria do you use to start? As a Facebook ludite, I'm not too save on that platform.
From what I'm reading, there been a lot of success with cute girls at today's rates.There are plenty of guys here with much more FB experience than I, but mine is recent so I'll tell you what has worked for me. I'm going to assume you have already started by creating a secondary account or you plan on just using your main account. This post is not about how to get started. There are other excellent posts in the forum about that and I'm sure you can find them. I'm just too lazy to look right now jaja.
Once you have established the account you can't just start friend requesting every chick in Medellin. FB will shut you down fast. That's what happened with the 1st secondary account I opened. I limit mine to 10-12 requests a day at most. I've read that other BM's have done more but I'm not trying to draw attention. There are posts in this forum that have names of chicas to use to get started. Those are gold. Once you've gotten your first 10 friends or so it gets much easier. Facebook will start making suggestions almost immediately. These are not always good but occasionally they get it right. I do some additional research which I'll get to in a minute. Look at the people who have liked the posts of the friends you already have. You will quickly learn to spot 2 types of people. 1 is other mongers and those are fairly obvious from the profiles. 2 is other prepagos. Eventually you run into someone who has an "open" friends list (some with thousands of names) and then it's just shooting fish in a barrel. But even then I do some homework.
These are the things I look at every time. Where do they live? This is almost always front and center. I open up the About Info. What is the age? Most have birthdays listed, some have the years they were born. Many will have single in relationship status. Also in About info, what are their likes and who do they follow. Next I look at photos. So many of them have revealing pics that make it quite obvious what they are looking for. Are there mutual friends? That's another good sign. Most importantly in my opinion, how recent are the posts. If their most recent post is more than 3 months old, don't bother. I won't send a request without a post from the past 30 days. The ones that will accept will be active and posting regularly. I can look through the entire profile and make a decision in 15-20 seconds.
I currently have 160 friends and 190 outstanding requests, 45% success rate by my count. It could probably be higher but I won't put a picture of my face in the profile. I have been told by two women that they would not accept my friend request without a picture. I told them if it ever happens that we are going to meet I will gladly send a pic over Whatsapp. I have a general distrust of FB but it is a great tool.
In Colombia, money equals love. Or Love equal Money, it doesn't matter which way you go with it. The sooner you accept it the happier you will be. I am by no means suggesting that more money equals More Love but proportional to what she perceives you can give will be interpreted as the amount of love you have for her, if that even matters to you. Feel free to file this post under useless shit or maybe even Stupid Shit here.
Fotos are all from the past 12 hours. Cat girl was grooming our dog in our hotel room We snuck Lia in a red D1 bag, jaja, thanks again Villainy. The close-up of Catgirl kissing our dog is a good shot of her incredible flaxen hair.
I have not named Catgirl's new Novia yet but they are scarily alike in appearance and personality. We were having drinks at a typical Colombian al fresco bar and Catgirl was chucking marshmallow candies into her novia's mouth with a surprisingly High success rate. The sexual innuendo is too obvious to mention except that I already did. When I showed New Novia the photo of her open mouth I made a jack-off motion with my hand and they both laughed.
Unfortunately, I got a little sloppy and Cat Girl saw Scarlet leaving the elevator in my hotel lobby and then again on my phone in a foto of her giving me a blowjob earlier in the day so she left in the middle of the night, angry.
GreenMonkey
09-30-21, 14:21
Glad I missed that! Just arrived today. Traffic was light compared to normal. No issues that I saw coming in from Las Palmas, through San Diego area and on to Laureles. Hope the protests are short-lived. All is well in my area at the moment.FYI, ColombiaLover your DMs are full. I get in to Medellin today and will be in country for a few weeks if anyone wants to grab a drink or check out some action.
Thanks!
Exactly, it's crazy how some of these guys guilt trip / give shit to people for spending a few extra dollars for comfort and convenience.The thing is the OP specifically asking for bus, not taxi or which one is better. So other members with actual experience are giving feedback. What is wrong with that? If someone wants to be helpful, he can offer his actual experience on both taxi and bus for the OP to decide.
As long as the information is not misleading. In this case MrEnternational makes it sound like the time to go to el centro and then drag your bags to a taxi to go to Poblado takes the same amount of time as going direct. That is not true at all. The OP may not know all their options if rhey haven’t been to Medellin before
The thing is the OP specifically asking for bus, not taxi or which one is better. So other members with actual experience are giving feedback. What is wrong with that? If someone wants to be helpful, he can offer his actual experience on both taxi and bus for the OP to decide..
Girl on your left. Girl on your right. Girls on bed. Girls in washroom. Impressed with your skills champion enjoy brother.
In Colombia, money equals love. Or Love equal Money, it doesn't matter which way you go with it. The sooner you accept it the happier you will be. I am by no means suggesting that more money equals More Love but proportional to what she perceives you can give will be interpreted as the amount of love you have for her, if that even matters to you. Feel free to file this post under useless shit or maybe even Stupid Shit here.
Fotos are all from the past 12 hours. Cat girl was grooming our dog in our hotel room We snuck Lia in a red D1 bag, jaja, thanks again Villainy. The close-up of Catgirl kissing our dog is a good shot of her incredible flaxen hair.
I have not named Catgirl's new Novia yet but they are scarily alike in appearance and personality. We were having drinks at a typical Colombian al fresco bar and Catgirl was chucking marshmallow candies into her novia's mouth with a surprisingly High success rate. The sexual innuendo is too obvious to mention except that I already did. When I showed New Novia the photo of her open mouth I made a jack-off motion with my hand and they both laughed.
Unfortunately, I got a little sloppy and Cat Girl saw Scarlet leaving the elevator in my hotel lobby and then again on my phone in a foto of her giving me a blowjob earlier in the day so she left in the middle of the night, angry.
As long as the information is not misleading. ... then drag your bags to a taxi ...My experience is different. Even without help, you basically stand right where you are to catch the taxi. Do you speak from your own personal experience that this actually happened to you?
I am just saying my experience does not negate yours and vice versa.
Mr Enternational
09-30-21, 19:56
As long as the information is not misleading. In this case MrEnternational makes it sound like the time to go to el centro and then drag your bags to a taxi to go to Poblado takes the same amount of time as going direct. That is not true at all. The OP may not know all their options if rhey havent been to Medellin before .San Diego is not El Centro! From the airport to Poblado is 33 minutes. From the airport to San Diego is 33 minutes. From San Diego to Poblado is 9 minutes. From the airport to El Centro is 40 minutes. From El Centro to Poblado is 22 minutes.
There are two buses. One goes to San Diego and one goes to El Centro. The OP was talking about taking the bus 33 minutes to San Diego and then taking a taxi 9 minutes to Poblado. He will save $18 for spending a mere 10 more minutes of his time. Sure $18 is nothing to you, but it will get me a day and a half stay at my hotel in El Centro. And when I go to Medellin it is usually just a a short flight from Bogota. I have not been traveling 7 hours and anxious and tired. I don't get that way regardless.
I would always take the bus from the airport to Copacabana in Rio, the bus from the airport in Bangkok to Pattaya, and the bus from the airport in Manila to Angeles City. If it is going to take me relatively the same time then I am going with the cheaper option when convenient. Now if I go and see there is a wait of 30 minutes or 1 hour for the bus then I will just take the taxi.
Triple Darknes
09-30-21, 20:14
After Much cajoling I'm Headed to Meddy On Tuesday for a couple of weeks.
Although I have made some contacts I'm down to have a few cold ones with whoever's in town. This is basically a recon for a possible move to Meddy.
I'm also looking for a good outdoor store in Medellin the one's in Cali are limited.
Thanks PM's are Open.
Trip.
Hi everyone,
Well this will be my second trip to Medellin I plan to hit San Andreas as well with a friend and her GF so it will be a decent time. Does anyone have any "spots" that are a must in San Andreas or is it mainly just a beach town. Also I will be in Medellin for Halloween what can I expect? Crazy parties I went earlier in March so I dealt with restrictions and curfew but still had an amazing time so I am excited to go back with everything being open.
Mojo Bandit
10-01-21, 05:05
There are plenty of guys here with much more FB experience than I, but mine is recent so I'll tell you what has worked for me. I'm going to assume you have already started by creating a secondary account or you plan on just using your main account. This post is not about how to get started. There are other excellent posts in the forum about that and I'm sure you can find them. I'm just too lazy to look right now jaja.
Excellent advice all the way around. I think anyone would do well to follow all of but I have a little different experience. Your success rate is a lot better so you may be somehting better than I. My success rate is more like one 15% or 25% percent although that got better once the pandemic set in. Right now I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2500 contacts but I cannot tell whether they are all prostitutes, whether some are duplicates, etc etc
I am not sure that the rate you send out requests matters as much as A) sending too many requests to people you have no mutual friends with and B) just the overall number of unanswered friend request you send out. Facebook stopped me from sending out any once I reached 1000 unanswered request until I deleted some of them.
I have had certain FB "privliges" suspended for my aggressive clicking on profiles before when I was starting out. But I am betting that I probably clicked though hundreds before this happened. And FB thinks at that point you must be a bot because why would a human be clicking through that many profiles in one setting. So that point when I go to click on a new profile a message pops up about 'community standards' blah blah and I am unable to click on profiles for like two days. Even my friends.
I've seen a lot of posts about prearranging meet ups via making Facebook friends.
When going down that route, what search criteria do you use to start? As a Facebook ludite, I'm not too save on that platform.
From what I'm reading, there been a lot of success with cute girls at today's rates.When you say at "todays rates" I am confused about what you mean. In general FB girls are way more expensive than SWs in Centro, even with the rate increases that some BMs have been discussing, but about the same as SWs in say Lleras or even cheaper if you pick an average looing chica and negotiate. Still though the cheapest FB chica at about 150 k is about 5 times what the highest rate I read is being quoted in Centrol.
I like FB for the convienince and the abilty to choose the chicas I am going to hook up with days or even weeks in adavance. But there is a price to be paid for FB chicas.
John Hancock said good things about what to look for in a post to see if a chica may be a prepago, I just want to add a few things. Like JohnHancock said, most times you have to look through the chicas photos list, hardly ever does the proile photo or cover photo give anything away. Some prepagos have a tell tell photo of them in their underwear. Some chicas have a photo of cash money. Some chicas have some version of the the devils horn, either the devil emoji, a silhoette of a horned she-devil or horns somehow photshopped their own head in a photo. Sometimes they do not have any obvious photos at all. And you have to guess from how many of thier friends are either prepagos or if they have gringo friends. If a chica really interests me I amy just pop off a message and ask her straight out if she spends time with gringos for money - then worry about specifics later.
Like JohnHancock said you start resourcing from known monger or prepago friends lists and I would add that you also need to find your own way to be systematic, I have had BMs say it is like going down the rabbit hole because they click on one profile and see something interesting so they click on another profile in that profile etc and then forget even where they started. I use the bookmark system in the browser, if I find an interesting profile that may have pregagos in their friends list, before I click on another profile in that profile's list of friends. I bookmark the profile so I can come back to it etc etc.
There are at least a few prepagos and a few mongers in the list of friends in this strip club. Your best bet us to look at the gringos and see who has an open list of friends. Happy Hunting to you and the 500 hundred lurkers reading this.
https://www.facebook.com/laisla.medellin
Excellent advice all the way around. I think anyone would do well to follow all of but I have a little different experience. Your success rate is a lot better so you may be somehting better than I. My success rate is more like one 15% or 25% percent although that got better once the pandemic set in. Right now I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2500 contacts but I cannot tell whether they are all prostitutes, whether some are duplicates, etc etc
I am not sure that the rate you send out requests matters as much as A) sending too many requests to people you have no mutual friends with and B) just the overall number of unanswered friend request you send out. Facebook stopped me from sending out any once I reached 1000 unanswered request until I deleted some of them..All good stuff, but there's one thing that you have overlooked in the price comparison, something almost everyone seems to miss. The rate in El Centro is usually for 30 minutes or less and there's usually an additional charge for the room. I've never had a Facebook girl stay for less than an hour, and quite often they're with me for 2 hours or more. So it's not 30-50 k compared to 150-200 k. When you adjust for the amount of time spent the price is close to the same. And you are probably spending the time in a much nicer room.
Of course, if you have no interest in spending more time with a girl than the bare minimum necessary, it wouldn't make sense to pay for a girl who will stick around for 2 hours.
Someone else questioned about waiting around for girls, or taking them to a love motel. I've never had a problem with taking girls to love motels. I've had several pick me up along the way to go to a motel. However, I have usually used Motel Ibiza, and once they see the room they don't want to leave.
As far as women being late, I found an easy solution. If I want her to show up at 6 pm, I'll tell her 5 or 5:30. By 6:15 they're at my door.
Anyone come across any two for one casa specials lately? Or is that a thing of the past? I haven't seen any lately but used to enjoy them at some of the casas.
Mojo Bandit
10-01-21, 15:28
I've seen a lot of posts about prearranging meet ups via making Facebook friends.
From what I'm reading, there been a lot of success with cute girls at today's rates.
All good stuff, but there's one thing that you have overlooked in the price comparison, something almost everyone seems to miss. The rate in El Centro is usually for 30 minutes or less and there's usually an additional charge for the room. I've never had a Facebook girl stay for less than an hour, and quite often they're with me for 2 hours or more. So it's not 30-50 k compared to 150-200 k. When you adjust for the amount of time spent the price is close to the same. And you are probably spending the time in a much nicer room.
If I want her to show up at 6 pm, I'll tell her 5 or 5:30. By 6:15 they're at my door.Of course I agree about the amount of time being the same value from my perspective. I have a much better experience if I am not feeling rushed etc, But for a guy who just wants to wham bam thank you ma'am it may not be such a great value. Actually I was responding to how he made the comment about "todays rates" I had even said what you said about the time factor and price in a first draft of my post, as well as how when I have gone to Centro I never know what was actually going to be around that day chica quality wise, but on FB you can go searching far in advance, but I cut some out of the post because the thing was already too long.
All good stuff, but there's one thing that you have overlooked in the price comparison, something almost everyone seems to miss. The rate in El Centro is usually for 30 minutes or less and there's usually an additional charge for the room. I've never had a Facebook girl stay for less than an hour, and quite often they're with me for 2 hours or more. So it's not 30-50 k compared to 150-200 k. When you adjust for the amount of time spent the price is close to the same. And you are probably spending the time in a much nicer room.Not sure where you getting your data on the 30 minutes or less information for Centro. With the exception of the "gringo hunters" and the girls on the backside of the Church that work out of the 6 K costing rooms and go arriba there for 20 K, whom are very undesirable, 30 minutes may be about right there, but everywhere else the rooms that cost more, upwards of say 16 K will include 2 to 3 hours and of course will not compare to someone's apartment which on a daily basis will cost more.
As far as the 30-50 K comparison to 150-200 K if your trying to illustrate a direct correlation of Centro to Fayboo Chicas, well as your aware, it's going to depend on the monger. And nowadays the newbie mongers versus the street rats and locals who are not getting hit with time constraints and other crap, may end up with a 30 minute session.
I guess what your trying to illustrate is that for approximately one quarter of the cost of a Fayboo Chica you can get a Centro Chica, but it will only be for a quarter of the time which I see the newbie mongers getting roped into, where as most of the locals and the street rats may be getting 1/2 the time, to all of the time, say 2 hours for 50 K which I can get, excluding the room.
So using my math, a local or street rat could get the equivalent of upwards to four Centro Chicas or even more if a guy is into beached whales and sacaleros, versus one Fayboo Chica. But of course the quality of some of the Fayboo Chicas will far exceed the Centro Chicas which when factored into all of this changes things dramatically.
The girls, the drugs, the money. I'm loving it, every minute but it's just too much, it's too intense.
I feel better physically and mentally than when I got here. I love how walkable Estadio-Laureles is.
Cat girl and I are fine, she stormed out of here when she caught me with another girl the other night but she knows what she signed up for. She's Number One and gets most of the benefits. We've been a couple for over two years and it's going to take more than that to break us up, a lot more. Feels like we're going to be together forever but I suppose everyone feels like that at some point during the beginning of a serious relationship. 99% said we wouldn't make it this long.
That new hot young miniature Vennie chica came to my hotel last night and she was phenomenal. She called time on me in a friendly way after 2 hours which stunned me at first because none of my regular girls watch a clock. I told her fine, but just let me go down on you one more time for 5 minutes. 45 minutes and multiple orgasms later, she left. I wrote the other day that she was in just the right spot and I'm glad she's keeping it professional because I could fall for her and that last thing I need is another novia. We're going to hook up again today in El Centro, 2 days in a row is always risky but since it's neutral ground, I think we'll be fine.
There's been a little chatter here recently about skin and tats. The always-popular Purrfect Piel came by and she never disappoints. Her name is derived from the fact that she has no piercings,* no tattoos and a great body.
And Flame was the late night visitor. I was calling Spanish teacher the current reigning blowjob Queen but Flame dethroned her last night. Our session was so intense last night that after the final orgasm we both collapsed in a heap on top of each other and did not move a muscle for an hour, with YouTube 70's hard rock and roll videos blaring on the huge screen TV, her choice on the music.
I'm going to try and buy a return ticket today but as we all know, tryin' is lyin'. Love you guys, and don't forget to Keep On Keepin' On!
Getting in Monday for a week if anyone's in town and wants to hit Centro or a club. Been a couple times this year already but wouldn't mind a wingman or two.
I've never had a Facebook girl stay for less than an hour, and quite often they're with me for 2 hours or more. So it's not 30-50 k compared to 150-200 k. When you adjust for the amount of time spent the price is close to the same. And you are probably spending the time in a much nicer room.
.Anything more than an hour is a cost, not a benefit. So that's more points for the centro girls, haha. And its my time, so I am going to charge it at 200 k per hour. Hehe.
FlagRunner77
10-02-21, 01:20
Excellent advice all the way around. I think anyone would do well to follow all of but I have a little different experience. Your success rate is a lot better so you may be somehting better than I. My success rate is more like one 15% or 25% percent although that got better once the pandemic set in. Right now I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2500 contacts but I cannot tell whether they are all prostitutes, whether some are duplicates, etc etc
I am not sure that the rate you send out requests matters as much as A) sending too many requests to people you have no mutual friends with and B) just the overall number of unanswered friend request you send out. Facebook stopped me from sending out any once I reached 1000 unanswered request until I deleted some of them.
I have had certain FB "privliges" suspended for my aggressive clicking on profiles before when I was starting out. But I am betting that I probably clicked though hundreds before this happened. And FB thinks at that point you must be a bot because why would a human be clicking through that many profiles in one setting. So that point when I go to click on a new profile a message pops up about 'community standards' blah blah and I am unable to click on profiles for like two days. Even my friends.
When you say at "todays rates" I am confused about what you mean. In general FB girls are way more expensive than SWs in Centro, even with the rate increases that some BMs have been discussing, but about the same as SWs in say Lleras or even cheaper if you pick an average looing chica and negotiate. Still though the cheapest FB chica at about 150 k is about 5 times what the highest rate I read is being quoted in Centrol.
I like FB for the convienince and the abilty to choose the chicas I am going to hook up with days or even weeks in adavance. But there is a price to be paid for FB chicas.One additional helpful route I found through searching this thread. There is a page 'happy ending Medellin' If you find that, there are a number of ladies there as a good starting point. I'm working my way through that (a few each day so as not to get banned by FB). So far, no friend requests have been accepted. But I'm a fat gringo so kinda goes with the territory! Jajaja.
Not sure where you getting your data on the 30 minutes or less information for Centro. With the exception of the "gringo hunters" and the girls on the backside of the Church that work out of the 6 K costing rooms and go arriba there for 20 K, whom are very undesirable, 30 minutes may be about right there, but everywhere else the rooms that cost more, upwards of say 16 K will include 2 to 3 hours and of course will not compare to someone's apartment which on a daily basis will cost more.
As far as the 30-50 K comparison to 150-200 K if your trying to illustrate a direct correlation of Centro to Fayboo Chicas, well as your aware, it's going to depend on the monger. And nowadays the newbie mongers versus the street rats and locals who are not getting hit with time constraints and other crap, may end up with a 30 minute session.
I guess what your trying to illustrate is that for approximately one quarter of the cost of a Fayboo Chica you can get a Centro Chica, but it will only be for a quarter of the time which I see the newbie mongers getting roped into, where as most of the locals and the street rats may be getting 1/2 the time, to all of the time, say 2 hours for 50 K which I can get, excluding the room.There are too many variables to do any straight comparison. What it is always going to come down to is whatever each person prefers.
What bothers me is when someone declares that their way is the only way and anyone who does things differently is doing things wrong. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is if you enjoyed yourself.
FlagRunner77
10-02-21, 03:21
Just to add (from my post earlier today which, hopefully, admin will allow. Otherwise this will be totally without context!
On facebook, I friend requested a few ladies on the 'happy ending Medellin' group (it's actually listed as a person if you search). They haven't accepted my request yet. But my 'recommended' friend list has lit up. A great starting point for options to cultivate a good friends list.
Mojo Bandit
10-02-21, 03:49
it's going to depend on the monger. .I think you need to consider that a person with our level of knowledge and experience mongering in Centro is by and far the exception. I have no real way of knowing how many gringo mongers there are who frequent Centro but do not post here. But the amount that do and spend as much time as you do I can count on one hand. And the few times that I have been to Centro I have seen a couple of gringos hanging in Plaza Botero and one time I saw a couple of cruising Carrera 53/ Ave Cundinamarca. My experience in Centro is limited and maybe you can straighten me out on it but I get the feeling that on the level of experience you are the exeption and not the rule. Outside of Mr E, TM, PN and a couple of people I know who have spent some time down there with PN I think your experience is probably more the exception than the rule.
You can search Centro in advance. I've followed youtube links on this website to videos that are pretty up to date. I almost expect to see myself in one of them but I steer clear of gringos, especially gringos with go pro cameras and wacky looking camera sunglasses.
Of course I agree about the amount of time being the same value from my perspective. I have a much better experience if I am not feeling rushed etc, But for a guy who just wants to wham bam thank you ma'am it may not be such a great value. Actually I was responding to how he made the comment about "todays rates" I had even said what you said about the time factor and price in a first draft of my post, as well as how when I have gone to Centro I never know what was actually going to be around that day chica quality wise, but on FB you can go searching far in advance, but I cut some out of the post because the thing was already too long.
Life is too short to be sitting around with my thumb up my ass waiting and wondering when some girl will show. I keep it simple. Any girl who is not on time gets dropped from the roster moments after she missing the agreed time and I move on to another. Because I am a Centro rat, I rarely have to drop girls from the roster because they are waiting for me on the street. When I have girls I know from other settings come to my place I either send an uber / indriver / didi so I can track their progress, or if they take the metro I have them share their live location. I do this because I don't want to waste my time. Stick to your guns about punctuality and you will find you are kept waiting much less often than if you don't. It's because girls will juggle appointments and give priority to guys who won't wait and make guys wait if they have been willing to wait. Even though I know it's true I am constantly astonished guys who spend good money on airfare and hotels for a one or two week trip will literally piss away hours of it waiting for girls to decide to show up.
It sucks waiting at your own hotel or apartment for a girl who will most likely be late or not show. Now you are going to wait at a love hotel? That would really suck. I have never done the Facebook chicks. Not sure how responsive they will be to meeting or having their "date" at a love hotel. What would go through your mind if she did not want to meet at your "nice" place but rather a "love" hotel. She may see red flags. I would because that is not normal.
Faster and easier to go to a casa / spa or Centro. Just grab and go. If she is not good then little money is lost and you can grab the next one minutes later to take for a test drive. PM me and I can take you to Zandaly and New Life. Visit both and only takes 1 hour. You should be able to find one you like.
JohnnyWalker55
10-02-21, 15:18
Been doing the rotation of casas lately, I think I've been through most girls in each lineup in the past few months hahaha. Settled down to a few favorites.
Around noon went to amigas sexy with a regular lucy for an hour, dark black girl with curves and a pretty smile, brought weed and we GFE'd for an hour. Was spent.
Recovered with food then went to centro around 4 pm.
First time there in like ten days, tbh I've just been to lazy to go hunt when the casas are sooo easy and always good service.
Honestly can't say I've had a bad session at a casa in a very lonnnnnng time, they are just so eager to please. One that sticks out is the redhead amber from zandlay, she asked for propina at the end which means yea ill never sesh with her again, but even then she was a great fuck.
So anyways centro around 4 pm, and damn it just hit me that it changed. Never seen so much police, ever since that gate barrier went up it's been like a police hq. Didn't see many gringos, just a few.
dare i say centro has lost it's "edge"? my first trip in jan 2019, was a daily sight seeing people robbed of phones in day light, police getting speared into fruit trucks, bloody fights between putas.. etc... lately, nada.
But Surfer is on the money as usual, there is definitely a supply problem, making rounds I had to say Hi to all the putas I've been with since no new ones have really come hahahah.
Like, I have never seen so few girls, especially on a Friday.
Met with sabrina, my old puta who I used to meet with in Bogota. She's stands by the corner across from the yellow restaurant thing behind the church. Brunette, shoulder lenght hair, green eyes, pale white, and I can legit say the best ass in town. She is a SOLID 8, yea yea we all have ratings but see for yourself. Great with sesh but couldn't finish, she warmed me up. 40 k +6 k pieza, it's always been her price and I think it's fair.
Kept making rounds and found another vennie I never saw before. Maria jose, PAWG pale vennie about 5'2 140, just how I like them, they don't get attention that the little spinners with the abs do.
Had a beer with her next to the barber shop behind the museum. All positions, DFK, etc. 30 k +6 k pieza. Really had to work for the nut, she wrapped the legs around my back in mish and boom, over.
The non-pro market is so much better lately, not sure why. But been getting numbers form the girls who work the cell phone stores on calle 49 and coffee girls with ease, . The problem is I really don't want to put in the effort when I can just fuck a girl equally as hot for 50 k hahahahahah.
Happy mongering to all.
Jw.
Thanks to whoever mentioned sportsmassage, ill go there this week. Looks pretty cheap too, 120 k for an HR deep tissue massage.
Just to add (from my post earlier today which, hopefully, admin will allow. Otherwise this will be totally without context!
On facebook, I friend requested a few ladies on the 'happy ending Medellin' group (it's actually listed as a person if you search). They haven't accepted my request yet. But my 'recommended' friend list has lit up. A great starting point for options to cultivate a good friends list.Colombians respond to things in their own time. I still get requests accepted that I sent out 3 years ago. It's the same with messages. They might respond in 5 seconds, or 5 days. About the only time you can count on a quick response is when they're desperate for money.
I think you need to consider that a person with our level of knowledge and experience mongering in Centro is by and far the exception. I have no real way of knowing how many gringo mongers there are who frequent Centro but do not post here. But the amount that do and spend as much time as you do I can count on one hand. And the few times that I have been to Centro I have seen a couple of gringos hanging in Plaza Botero and one time I saw a couple of cruising Carrera 53/ Ave Cundinamarca. My experience in Centro is limited and maybe you can straighten me out on it but I get the feeling that on the level of experience you are the exeption and not the rule. Outside of Mr E, TM, PN and a couple of people I know who have spent some time down there with PN I think your experience is probably more the exception than the rule.Over the past six months I have noticed a tremendous amount of gringos, more so than I have ever seen before in Centro. And like you, I suspect very few are posters here with the exception of a few, like Knowledge, who post about their observations on this board.
What I do know though about all of the non-posting gringos is you have two groups, the newbie Colombian mongers getting hosed and paying high prices, and others who have spent a lot of time there. There are some non-posters who spend months at a time there who I have met, that know way more than I do about what goes on, so I really don't consider myself an exception in the scheme of things. I actually consider myself a part timer in Centro as I don't stay in Centro, but am there most days for a few hours at a time. Sometimes it's just part of my daily routine.
And as far as some of the others I've mentioned who are non-posters, some have gone with dozens and dozens of the girls working there, a lot of them speak Spanish, and can tell you which ones are the performers and which one's aren't, how much they cost, and all kinds of other information.
I'm not even close to being that knowlegble about what goes on there, but have seen the transformation of the place over the years though, where as most others have not, as they haven't been around as long as I have.
So with that being said, I would most definitely say I'm the exception versus the rule when it comes to tenure in Centro.
CummingMan
10-02-21, 18:33
All good stuff, but there's one thing that you have overlooked in the price comparison, something almost everyone seems to miss. The rate in El Centro is usually for 30 minutes or less and there's usually an additional charge for the room. I've never had a Facebook girl stay for less than an hour, and quite often they're with me for 2 hours or more. So it's not 30-50 k compared to 150-200 k. When you adjust for the amount of time spent the price is close to the same. And you are probably spending the time in a much nicer room.
Of course, if you have no interest in spending more time with a girl than the bare minimum necessary, it wouldn't make sense to pay for a girl who will stick around for 2 hours.
Someone else questioned about waiting around for girls, or taking them to a love motel. I've never had a problem with taking girls to love motels. I've had several pick me up along the way to go to a motel. However, I have usually used Motel Ibiza, and once they see the room they don't want to leave.
As far as women being late, I found an easy solution. If I want her to show up at 6 pm, I'll tell her 5 or 5:30. By 6:15 they're at my door.How come nobody else has mentioned Hotel Ibiza here much before? I just looked it up and it looks awesome. What's the deal with it?
DzikaBomba
10-02-21, 19:41
I now noticed that I don't want to stay in Poblado when I go to Medellin at the end of the Month, because I think its a Tourist trap and I want to Change my Hotel to a Hotel in Laureles.
I know from Osteoknots reports (many thanks for them!) that he likes to stay in ayendas in Laureles. But sadly can't write him an PM, because his Inbox seems to be full.
Do you know this hotel? Ayenda 1258 Boutique Laureles Home. Can you recommend this?
Or can anyone please recommend me a chica friendly hotel in Laureles? For not more than about 35 $.
For me its only important that the room is not the smallest and that the location is close to a metro station and some acceptable internet. And most important that they are chica friendly. I don't need more than that.
Gents,
I spent past 2 months in Medellin. I did all of monger on Seeking Arrangements. I will say that there is a lot of good talents on SA. All shapes and sizes and prices. Many are looking for daddy relationships. Others are pure hookers. The problem with SA is that many of these girls can be flaky or are almost always 1-2 hours late. I did about 7 girls on that site. Most were relatively good GFE. They all had amazingly clean shave puzz. In hindsights, I should have did casas or higher end escorts instead. Because I think you waste lots of time communicating and waiting for girls to come over. Better to have quick sex with a known quantity. Some had an agreement of 250-300 k COP to come over. Others didn't talk about gifts and just came over for sex. But I always tried to give them something. Most asked for the cab fares to / fro Poblado.
I will also add that I felt very safe in Medellin. But I also did not go out late at night and pick up the hooker. I am quite a timid monger and didn't want to expose myself. I am surprised many of you went to El Centro for mongering, because that place felt unsafe to me. But that is my perspective. I was surprised to see so many sex tourist in Parque Llaves, dressed in all kinds of "papaya", with cell phones in full visibilities. No wonder tourists get robbed.
Overall you will love Medellin. Just be smart.
To be honest, I hated San Andres. But I was also by myself and another mate. Its primarily a beach town where the local middle-class peoples go (think Daytona beach), so there is nothing really to do there, nothing fancy. The beaches are very pretty and fun to ride around town in the buggy. However everything was very touristy. I was staying in the center city. But maybe if I had a chica, I would consider staying in a more remote area and focus on sex and beautify beach vistas.
Hi everyone,
Well this will be my second trip to Medellin I plan to hit San Andreas as well with a friend and her GF so it will be a decent time. Does anyone have any "spots" that are a must in San Andreas or is it mainly just a beach town. Also I will be in Medellin for Halloween what can I expect? Crazy parties I went earlier in March so I dealt with restrictions and curfew but still had an amazing time so I am excited to go back with everything being open.
Agreed. I have said it before and will say it again. San Andres sucks. The beaches are few and far between for an island environment and the available chicas are even less available. By all means, BYO, but don't expect that to change your experience.
To be honest, I hated San Andres. But I was also by myself and another mate. Its primarily a beach town where the local middle-class peoples go (think Daytona beach), so there is nothing really to do there, nothing fancy. The beaches are very pretty and fun to ride around town in the buggy. However everything was very touristy. I was staying in the center city. But maybe if I had a chica, I would consider staying in a more remote area and focus on sex and beautify beach vistas.
SankarShetty
10-03-21, 00:34
The Medellin scene is alive and thriving. I spent a week focusing on mongering activities. Met up with board members and hung out a few times. Some long term expat mongers are constructing businesses! Gringo bar in Laureles in San peter and co working cafes in Laureles and Envigado. Essentially, everyone is hustling, both mongers and chicas. I liked the energy of the city!
Centro has a lot of Venezuelan chicas but the unwritten rule is that you will find most of them in the same spot. It's as if they stake out each part of the pavement. I have not had a chance to venture out in the Raudal area. Some of the casas have been remodeled (amigas) or have a completely new line up and manager (dulce compania). The updated maps are close to accurate as to what is closed and what is open. For Laureles, Tantra has the best line up with Energy coming second. Two chicas in Tantra actually speak some English. Avoid Eros if you are looking for 7 and above chica in terms of looks. I also enjoyed a good number of top class restaurants in centro, one among them is Hatoviejo on Junin.
For those interested in massages. There are 2 I liked- Mandalay massage in floresta and club bendito in st. Lucia. Both are easy to get to if you are take the Metro.
On this trip, I primarily concentrated on SA. The experience is certainly interesting. Chicas are all shapes and sizes. Most have a regular job or that is what they say. Some are students or unemployed. I concentrated on the 18-25 range, although some of them could have been older. Most ask around 200 to 300. I have paid as low as 150. A couple of them did not specifically ask for money but I would still place 150 in their bag before they leave. One interesting experience- an office accountant who declined any money saying she is not a prepago. Each cita is a 2-3 hour*event coupled with dinner / lunch. Flake rate and responsiveness is similar to FB. The ability to speak*Spanish well will be a huge advantage for more enjoyable encounters.
SA and FB do have the same girls, ie. , the same girls have their SA and FB profile. I do not know the pricing difference since I did not repeat my FB chicas from the previous trip.
Worst experience has been Park leras pick up of a vennie duo's along with another monger from the board. We went to a love motel. She asked for money upfront and gave a dead fish experience. Have also experienced*2 traffic stops during uber trips around Belen disturbances early this week. Cops checked the car and let us go. Any specific questions, PM me and I can try to answer.
SankarShetty
10-03-21, 00:47
After a couple failed attempts, I finally made it to Medellin. This is how it went down.
Day 4- Met up with SS again and he took me on a lap in Centro, through Botero and around the back of the church. We checked out the lineups at New Life, Zandaly, Aiffe and Club Sexy de Amigas. Found a cute little thing at Club Sexy named Hilary. This time I went with the one I thought was the hottest and it worked out great. She had a great attitude. CBJ, DFK, many positions. 80 k for an hour and she gave me a good workout. Got her number and will probably repeat.
Many thanks to all the BM's for the valuable info. Hopefully I have contributed something in return. I'm already trying to figure out how to arrange my life to get back to Colombia as soon as possible.Are you sure that spinner name was Hilary? I thought it was Talia. Jajajajaja.
Anyways, nice to hang out with you.
Colombians respond to things in their own time. I still get requests accepted that I sent out 3 years ago. It's the same with messages. They might respond in 5 seconds, or 5 days. About the only time you can count on a quick response is when they're desperate for money.This is correct. Few Colombian putas will work if they have a little money in their pockets, and she will be off the radar until she spends it. The laziness factor cannot be over estimated.
There are too many variables to do any straight comparison. What it is always going to come down to is whatever each person prefers.
What bothers me is when someone declares that their way is the only way and anyone who does things differently is doing things wrong. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is if you enjoyed yourself.I've always been open to recommendations as to how I might enjoy myself more, and at a better value, and this has paid dividends. In fact that's pretty much the purpose of this forum. The members should ignore all requests to refrain from critiquing someone who simply "enjoyed themselves."
Like I said, tryin' is lyin', I have not bought my return ticket yet.
I will try to remember to empty out my inbox in the next day or two, jeje.
I'm not sure if my sample size has achieved statistical power yet, but my girls are migrating back to DiDi from InDriver. Just telling you what they tell me, that the rides are cheaper and the drivers make more working for DiDi.
Have a spectacular 3-way lined up in my sights at this moment, that meets all the Ostee criteria and one of the female participants says that our last three-way over a year ago and the last time we got together, was the best sexual experience of her life. Keep On Keepin" On!
Random gratuitous fotos all since my last post. * Ciao, brothers.
LoveItHere69
10-03-21, 05:20
There are some non-posters who spend months at a time there who I have met, that know way more than I do about what goes on, so I really don't consider myself an exception in the scheme of things. I actually consider myself a part timer in Centro as I don't stay in Centro, but am there most days for a few hours at a time. Sometimes it's just part of my daily routine.
And as far as some of the others I've mentioned who are non-posters, some have gone with dozens and dozens of the girls working there, a lot of them speak Spanish, and can tell you which ones are the performers and which one's aren't, how much they cost, and all kinds of other information.I do everything alone. I made the mistake of talking with those gringos when I stayed at Botero Boulevard for 3 weeks. There are about 9 of them. 2 stay in Botero Boulevard. 4 stay in Premier Plaza. 3 stay elsewhere. Most have been here 7-8 months. Some are on a pension or Social Security. One I was told lives off mommy dearest. Many of the others are living here off their unemployment benefits. One tried to cock block me 3 times. He wanted to talk to me only when I was with a chick one on one and everyone knows I am not a groupie. Another guy saw this girl following me to the hotel but from a far distance so he told her to come with him and that he would pay more. He was not lying. But she would have to go to his place in Poblado to get the extra money. He failed and she continued to follow me to my hotel. This other idiot in the group had a dream of having sex with identical twins. Someone on this site posted about some twins. (Very nice of you to do so whoever you are because I forgot who) I contacted the girls and they wanted 240,000 each for an hour plus taxi 20,000 and sent two pictures. I brought this too his attention but it was too much money for him. Too much! So 500,000 / 3600 COP = $140. $140 for a dream come true. He is 63+. How much time does he have left? Then another of the group stated within 5 minutes of talking to him that there was no way to leave during the lockdown. I told him about the humanitarian flights that Spirit had every month from different cities and he argued with me about no flights. I could go on and on and on.
Hate those guys with a passion. The main reason I quit talking to them is that they would talk for hours about nothing. Most have never been anywhere else in Colombia because they have little money so nothing to learn from them. Bunch of Chesters. One wanted me to walk with him and he would approach young looking girls. If a cop were to approach him and ask him why he was talking to the young girl, I know what he would do. He would point to me 50 feet away (because I had no interest) and tell the police that he was talking to the girl for me because I do not know Spanish. So many stories.
Mr Enternational
10-03-21, 05:42
Agreed. I have said it before and will say it again. San Andres sucks. Damn. I loved San Andres, but I had a chick with me. Cheap and great beaches. Drove around the whole island on a scooter checking out every nook and cranny. Can't wait to go back with another chick.
How come nobody else has mentioned Hotel Ibiza here much before? I just looked it up and it looks awesome. What's the deal with it?I went there with a girl a few years back and had a great time. It was not overly expensive, and I would recommend it.
How come nobody else has mentioned Hotel Ibiza here much before? I just looked it up and it looks awesome. What's the deal with it?Just to make sure you know that it is a love motel. It and others have been mentioned often. You can do a search.
Or can anyone please recommend me a chica friendly hotel in Laureles? For not more than about 35 $.
.For that price, you can stay at San Peter with a one bedroom. It is not a hotel. It is an apartment.
To be honest, I hated San Andres. But I was also by myself and another mate. Its primarily a beach town where the local middle-class peoples go (think Daytona beach), so there is nothing really to do there, nothing fancy. The beaches are very pretty and fun to ride around town in the buggy. However everything was very touristy. I was staying in the center city. But maybe if I had a chica, I would consider staying in a more remote area and focus on sex and beautify beach vistas.Exactly what I heard but that is exactly why I am brining a girl and her GF, I heard lotta dudes and if you don't come with someone good luck. But I def want a change and enjoy the beach lifeforms a few days and then back to Medellin. Thanks for the insight.
Agreed. I have said it before and will say it again. San Andres sucks. The beaches are few and far between for an island environment and the available chicas are even less available. By all means, BYO, but don't expect that to change your experience.Wow, I'm surprised to hear that. I loved SA. The natural aquarium and many of the other beaches. The water was amazing. I did some great scuba diving and also had all kinds of adventures.
I actually went solo but met a couple from outside of Cali on one of the excursions. Dude's girl was smokin and I noticed she kept looking at me. She even invited me to hang with them after the excursion but I declined.
On a random day, I was going to get something to drink and I heard someone yell my name. I turned around and it was her. We were both going to the same store. She told me her BF was on the beach getting some sun.
She asked if she could borrow my iPhone charger because we have the same phone. I told her it was in my hotel room. I wasn't supposed to have guests, but we calmly went through the lobby and up to my hotel room. We had a few drinks while her phone was charging and I wound up smashing. We are still in contact today. Nice girl, has a fruit store outside of Cali and drives an SUV. Has 2 kids but the body is still tight.
I am planning a trip to Medellin and could use some help to quickly come up to speed and then do the RTFF.
Can someone please point me to a basic guide / [post that summarizes where the action is, which hotels to stay, which neighborhoods to enjoy, how much to pay and how the casa scene works?
Thank you in advance.
As far as women being late, I found an easy solution. If I want her to show up at 6 pm, I'll tell her 5 or 5:30. By 6:15 they're at my door.This of course isn't true as anyone with any amount of experience with FB girls knows that they are often more than 45 minutes late, if they engage in the final stages of seeing through the appointment at all. It also isn't a solution as if she shows up on time then you at best haven't gotten what you wanted, if you're not clear across town.
There is no solution, but the best strategy is to tell them that if they are more than 30 minutes late then the appointment is automatically cancelled, then stick to your guns.
Now bring it out the anecdotes in rebuttal. Wink.
P.S. As to you never having a FB girl stay less than an hour, what do you two talk about after you nut? Enlightening and / or stimulating conversations are hard to imagine, but I'm all ears. Or maybe Hotel Ibiza gets all the credit and you simply can't shove them out the door.
CummingMan
10-03-21, 16:07
Just to make sure you know that it is a love motel. It and others have been mentioned often. You can do a search.Yea I read about it just didn't look like most of the love motels I've seen before. I haven't been there but from the pictures looks super clean and some of the suites look like it would be a great place to line up a couple girls and make a full day of it! Sometimes pictures can be real deceiving though.
CummingMan
10-03-21, 16:28
Just to make sure you know that it is a love motel. It and others have been mentioned often. You can do a search.Yea I looked at the website and read about it, looks really clean and A lot better than other love motels I've seen. Looks like a really fun place to line up a couple girls (or 6) and make a whole day of it! Although pictures can sometimes be deceiving some of the suites look awesome.
NapataJohn
10-03-21, 16:42
It is best for threesomes as you can all shower together in the big shower and you know all is clean and fresh, I liked it a lot as its discreet and inexpensive.
Wow, I'm surprised to hear that. I loved SA. The natural aquarium and many of the other beaches. The water was amazing. I did some great scuba diving and also had all kinds of adventures.
I actually went solo but met a couple from outside of Cali on one of the excursions. Dude's girl was smokin and I noticed she kept looking at me. She even invited me to hang with them after the excursion but I declined.
On a random day, I was going to get something to drink and I heard someone yell my name. I turned around and it was her. We were both going to the same store. She told me her BF was on the beach getting some sun.
She asked if she could borrow my iPhone charger because we have the same phone. I told her it was in my hotel room. I wasn't supposed to have guests, but we calmly went through the lobby and up to my hotel room. We had a few drinks while her phone was charging and I wound up smashing. We are still in contact today. Nice girl, has a fruit store outside of Cali and drives an SUV. Has 2 kids but the body is still tight.Zero mongering? Not even massage parlors? Any information will help, thanks! Travel safe.
Before booking, I recommend sound proof windows. Unless you are planning on not sleeping at all. Check the reviews on Arbnb. There is a night club right next door upstairs. Another loud entertainment place on the corner and another one across the street on the corner on the second floor of that building. $35 dollars is usually not the sound proof window room. Expect to pay just a bit more for that more like the 40 dollar range. Those rooms are usually booked in advance
For that price, you can stay at San Peter with a one bedroom. It is not a hotel. It is an apartment..
CummingMan
10-03-21, 19:07
It is best for threesomes as you can all shower together in the big shower and you know all is clean and fresh, I liked it a lot as its discreet and inexpensive.How far is Ibiza from ground zero? Safe walking distance?
How come nobody else has mentioned Hotel Ibiza here much before? I just looked it up and it looks awesome. What's the deal with it?I've mentioned it several times, as have several others.
It's located on the autopista just south of Mayorista, just a short walk from the Ayura metro station. If you arrive in a taxi the taxi pulls up to a gate and you are asked what type of room you want. The last time I was there, 2 years ago, they had a security guard checking girl's cedula and handing out flyers about trafficking.
There are 2 types of basic rooms. They all have a jacuzzi tub, some also have a sauna. Unless you feel like a sauna just tell them "solo con jacuzzi. " They will give a room number and open the gate. There are number signs outside of each room, yours will be flashing. Pay the taxi, get out and the door will open. Inside there's a switch to close the door. You can't reopen the door until you have paid for the room. If you're driving your own car, you get a garage, which opens for you, works the same as the other.
Climb the stairs to the room. You can see from the website what the rooms are like. If you need the air conditioning turned on, you have to call the desk, same to turn on the water to fill the jacuzzi. There's a refrigerator with sodas, water, beer, some bottles of liquor, lube, condoms, basic vibrators, bubble bath and more. There's also a menu and catalog on the desk. They have a full restaurant and sex shop on site.
When you are ready to leave call the desk and ask for the bill. They will lock the refrigerator and do an inventory (they can open it from the side). Once they finish a buzzer will sound. You open the little door over the refrigerator and someone will hand the bill through. You pay, have the desk call a taxi and when the taxi arrives they will call you and open the door.
Except for the security guard (if they are still doing that), you don't come face to face with anyone at the motel.
Depending on what you take from the refrigerator the bill is usually around 90 k, for up to 6 hours. If you bring more than 1 girl it costs more. The mini bar prices are fairly reasonable. It's not really worth it if you're just doing a quick session. However, if you're going to spend 3 or more hours, it's not a bad choice.
This of course isn't true as anyone with any amount of experience with FB girls knows that they are often more than 45 minutes late, if they engage in the final stages of seeing through the appointment at all. It also isn't a solution as if she shows up on time then you at best haven't gotten what you wanted, if you're not clear across town.
There is no solution, but the best strategy is to tell them that if they are more than 30 minutes late then the appointment is automatically cancelled, then stick to your guns.
Now bring it out the anecdotes in rebuttal. Wink.
P.S. As to you never having a FB girl stay less than an hour, what do you two talk about after you nut? Enlightening and / or stimulating conversations are hard to imagine, but I'm all ears. Or maybe Hotel Ibiza gets all the credit and you simply can't shove them out the door.To the first, all I can say is YMMV. Maybe I do a better job of picking girls, or maybe it's just that I'm gorgeous, but no shows have not been an issue for me. When I first started, there were a few who would be much later than what I've experienced over the last 3 years. However, I also don't jump blind. I consider where she's coming from, where I'm at, what the traffic is like at that time and I plan ahead. Some guys expect a girl to show 20 minutes after they ask them over. I give a minimum of 2 hours lead time, plus the extra 45 minutes I expect them to be late.
Should I just video a session and send it to you? Do you want the view showing my front side or back side?
However, assuming you're not just looking for some spank content, I'll elaborate. When I was taking girls to Motel Ibiza, I'd get them something to drink, let them put on some music and usually they would end up dancing for me, although I never had one who had any skill on the stripper pole. All of this happened while the jacuzzi was filling. By the time we were in the jacuzzi, 15-20 minutes had already passed.
Lots of playing around in the jacuzzi, usually coupled with some BBBJ and some DATY. Jacuzzi, plus bubble bath gets rid of most minor odor issues. From the jacuzzi I'd direct the girls to the shower, which is one of the best features at Motel Ibiza. After a good washing and drying, next stop was the bed. If everything is clean, and after the jacuzzi and the shower, it usually is, I like lots of DATY. If the girl is into it, I can easily eat up 20-30 minutes, seldom less than 10. Throw in a few minutes of BBBJ before the condom goes on and by the time the real action starts, 45-60 minutes have already been used up.
I prefer to start with cowgirl, which then goes to tree (standing), while standing and fucking I would carry her to the love chair, set her down and go straight to missionary. After that it would all depend on the mood. Back to the bed for doggy, maybe switch back to cowgirl, or maybe finish in missionary. Usually I prefer to finish in either cowgirl or missionary.
In most cases, the condom doesn't come off until after an hour has already expired. There's a cooling down period, and then some conversation, sometimes it's about music, sometimes about travel. If I'm with a girl for the first time she'll ask the basic questions: married or single, kids, how often do I come to Medellin? That leads to discussion about my time in Medellin and always lots of questions about why I don't have kids.
Some girls are better at conversation than others. Some, after things have settled down, will try to get me interested in another go, which is usually pointless, although some have succeeded. The ones who do succeed get more than they bargained for. The first round, I might last 2 minutes or 20 minutes, but round 2 is going to take a long time of jackhammer pounding to finish. With or (usually) without a second roll, I'll take them back to the shower before it's time to wrap it up.
Each time is different, but I tend to take my time, not be in any hurry and just keep a relaxed attitude about the whole thing. If I'm not in a rush, the girls are not likely to be in a rush. I also won't set up with any girl who mentions a time limit.
Any further questions councilor?
Before booking, I recommend sound proof windows. Unless you are planning on not sleeping at all. Check the reviews on Arbnb. ...
It seems there are more than one owners. Because I heard about the noise, so I did what you suggested checking the reviews. I paid 150 mil (about US $50 at the time) a night about 2 years ago and had a quiet room. I remember I have to pay all in cash to the security plus some deposit. Now I am wondering if the $30 room is going to have noise problem.
Zero mongering? Not even massage parlors? Any information will help, thanks! Travel safe.Sorry, I can't help. I didn't think about mongering when I was there. I basically went to scuba dive and do the excursions and experience the island. My GF at the time was working so I went solo. We don't have a beach here in Medellin so sometimes I take off to the coast for some beach time.
JohnnyWalker55
10-03-21, 21:25
Should I just video a session and send it to you? Do you want the view showing my front side or back side?
However, assuming you're not just looking for some spank content, I'll elaborate.
Each time is different, but I tend to take my time, not be in any hurry and just keep a relaxed attitude about the whole thing. If I'm not in a rush, the girls are not likely to be in a rush. I also won't set up with any girl who mentions a time limit.
Any further questions councilor?People forget that putas are just like any other chicks. They talk about anything, especially their family / kids / and always traveling. And the more you talk, the better the session is, of course.
Always love your posts man hahahah.
Jw.
I do everything alone. I made the mistake of talking with those gringos when I stayed at Botero Boulevard for 3 weeks. There are about 9 of them. 2 stay in Botero Boulevard. 4 stay in Premier Plaza. 3 stay elsewhere. Most have been here 7-8 months. Some are on a pension or Social Security. One I was told lives off mommy dearest. Many of the others are living here off their unemployment benefits.
Hate those guys with a passion. The main reason I quit talking to them is that they would talk for hours about nothing. Most have never been anywhere else in Colombia because they have little money so nothing to learn from them. Bunch of Chesters. One wanted me to walk with him and he would approach young looking girls. If a cop were to approach him and ask him why he was talking to the young girl, I know what he would do. He would point to me 50 feet away (because I had no interest) and tell the police that he was talking to the girl for me because I do not know Spanish. So many stories.The best way to go as you have surmised is totally under the radar in Centro. I talked with one of the guy's you mentioned and one of his Chicas came up to him and asked him if I was a gringo as I pass as a Colombian from what I've been told. And the next day when I was in Centro she comes up to me asking me to go with her. There are a lot of girls in Centro that I will call "gringo hunters" who specifically look for gringos as they typically are paying way more than the locals.
I totally agree that these guys are a bunch losers, but they would probably say the same about me. And these same guys you mentioned are also doing young girls as well. I was talking with one of them one day, and a young girl started to come up to us and I immediately split.
I don't want any attention when I'm in Centro. I'm fortunate that nobody gives me a second look when I'm lurking around, and don't want to be marked or associated with any of these guys just like you.
For most gringos in Centro, they are obvious foreigners which can draw a lot of attention, and any attention in Centro and in the entire Country for that matter, is not a good thing.
As a reference, and on the extreme end of being a foreigner in a foreign land, when I was in India walking around in various parts of New Delhi it was like people where watching my every move, looking at me with this look in their eyes as to what the hell are you doing here.
My point is, that the last thing anybody needs, especially in Centro, is any added attention.
GreenMonkey
10-03-21, 21:37
Has anyone been to Gisell Barra Dance in Laureles? I found references in the forum to their location in Bogota, but don't see any intel on the Medellin location.Alright, I stopped in there last night and took one for the team.
Gisell Barra Dance.
Av. 33 ##76-30.
8-10 decent looking girls, no stunners.
20 k for a beer.
150 k for 15 minutes touching only.
250 k for 30 minutes.
450 k for 60 minutes.
I had one overpriced beer and noped right out. Moved on to Barra Ejecutiva and that was much more my scene. 20 girls almost all of whom were better looking than at GB. I sat and chatted with the friend of one of the dancers who was pretty damn cute, but she wasn't on the menu so it was effectively a cock block. Hahaha.
I was just there a couple of weeks ago. Had one of the rooms that was without sound proof windows for around $37 dollars. I wound up leaving for a hotel. It was that bad. I had been going there for years and trusted the receptionist that the room was ok. I had a room before that had sound proof windows but only had it for a week. Needed to move and took their suggestion because the room ended with 3 on one of the higher floors. Lesson learned. Many were complaining and I know of one client that wanted a refund but they refused to give one. Your welcome to pm me for any other details
It seems there are more than one owners. Because I heard about the noise, so I did what you suggested checking the reviews. I paid 150 mil (about US $50 at the time) a night about 2 years ago and had a quiet room. I remember I have to pay all in cash to the security plus some deposit. Now I am wondering if the $30 room is going to have noise problem..
How far is Ibiza from ground zero? Safe walking distance?And ground zero would be where? If you're thinking centro it is a bit of a hike. At a fast walk maybe 6 hours.
Suggestion. Have a a map open on your phone, and look at the scale and then check out places as they are mentioned in reports. You will see that it is a big city. The places that are talked about are many many miles apart. To the Mayorista area from centro might take you 40 minutes in a cab. Depending on traffic it could be more.
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Suggestion. Have a a map open on your phone, and look at the scale and then check out places as they are mentioned in reports....To CummingMan, in El Centro, try La Fayette, walking distance but you will be near tranny centro so take a uber or taxi instead.
CummingMan
10-04-21, 02:44
To CummingMan, in El Centro, try La Fayette, walking distance but you will be near tranny centro so take a uber or taxi instead.I'll defiantly just take a taxi but I have never been there so I was just wondering if it was walking distance. I'd way rather use my energy for more fun things than hiking to a motel!
How come nobody else has mentioned Hotel Ibiza here much before? I just looked it up and it looks awesome. What's the deal with it?It's mentioned periodically on here. I've used it and reported on it here as have others. Highly recommended.
It seems there are more than one owners. Because I heard about the noise, so I did what you suggested checking the reviews. I paid 150 mil (about US $50 at the time) a night about 2 years ago and had a quiet room. I remember I have to pay all in cash to the security plus some deposit. Now I am wondering if the $30 room is going to have noise problem.They are all owned by different owners, so they all have different levels of finish and furnishings.
You can pay online with credit card on airbnb or booking.com or pay in cash at the reception. You get a little discount when you pay in cash.
The front desk people don't know which rooms are sound proof or not. Best is to verify with the manager. They tend to be busy, so the good rooms are generally gone quickly. There are people who book a couple of months at a time. Last December when I was there, I was talking to a guy there, who is from the new England area, he said he stays there from November to February every year.
Epic is one of those overused words in the English vocabulary that has lost a lot of meaning because of it. When I use it it means exceeded* my expectations and better than anything in my recent memory. My recent memory is not all that good from all the drugs, jajajaaa. Love you guys and I have learned more from you than I could possibly contribute.
I can't keep up anymore for a long time now, skimming the mountain tops. Time management. I am going to try to give my body some sleep this time and not go totally Gonzo.
Regular girl Managerette is supposed to show up at 8:30 in the morning, but every time I write what my plans are when I look back 90% of the time it never turns out that way and 90% of the time it's better. That whole, Why make plans in Medellin, thang?
And ground zero would be where? If you're thinking centro it is a bit of a hike. At a fast walk maybe 6 hours.
Suggestion. Have a a map open on your phone, and look at the scale and then check out places as they are mentioned in reports. You will see that it is a big city. The places that are talked about are many many miles apart. To the Mayorista area from centro might take you 40 minutes in a cab. Depending on traffic it could be more.4 years ago I'm pretty sure I could have walked from El Centro to Motel Ibiza in under 3 hours, but there's no point. No chica is going to walk that far. Besides, it's less than a 5 minute walk from the Ayura metro station.
I suppose if you considered Mayorista as ground zero, it would be walkable, but any girls aren't walking that far.
Alright, I stopped in there last night and took one for the team.
Gisell Barra Dance.
Av. 33 ##76-30.
8-10 decent looking girls, no stunners.
20 k for a beer.
150 k for 15 minutes touching only.
250 k for 30 minutes.
450 k for 60 minutes.
I had one overpriced beer and noped right out. Moved on to Barra Ejecutiva and that was much more my scene. 20 girls almost all of whom were better looking than at GB. I sat and chatted with the friend of one of the dancers who was pretty damn cute, but she wasn't on the menu so it was effectively a cock block. Hahaha.Thanks for the report.
The future of Medellin pricing for sure.
Damned shame.
I agree with you with the exception of the front desk not knowing. It is the basically the same people at the desk for years. They know the amenities of each room from the pc they have to book rooms. Also, after hundreds of visitors they would know which are the quiet rooms. The rooms can be found in Arbnb and it will describe whether it has sound proof windows or not. If you are unsure book a single night at least that way you don't wind up losing a lot more.
They are all owned by different owners, so they all have different levels of finish and furnishings.
You can pay online with credit card on airbnb or booking.com or pay in cash at the reception. You get a little discount when you pay in cash.
The front desk people don't know which rooms are sound proof or not. Best is to verify with the manager. They tend to be busy, so the good rooms are generally gone quickly. There are people who book a couple of months at a time. Last December when I was there, I was talking to a guy there, who is from the new England area, he said he stays there from November to February every year..
The future of Medellin pricing for sure.Well maybe in the year 2050. Def disagree with this thought. Tourists are the exception, not the norm in MDE. Most places have to sell their servcies and products to the local market, so these prices will cut it in the general market.
Mojo Bandit
10-04-21, 15:16
Before booking, I recommend sound proof windows. Unless you are planning on not sleeping at all. Check the reviews on Arbnb. There is a night club right next door upstairs. Another loud entertainment place on the corner and another one across the street on the corner on the second floor of that building. $35 dollars is usually not the sound proof window room. Expect to pay just a bit more for that more like the 40 dollar range. Those rooms are usually booked in advance
.I remember some BM posting that when booking at San Peter that there is a lot less noise in the apartments that do not face the street and the poster told how to distinguish between the rooms facing the street and the ones not facing the street by their number. Would you know how to distinguish these by the room number? Or anyone else reading this who knows how?
Lucky Nuts
10-04-21, 16:04
I remember some BM posting that when booking at San Peter that there is a lot less noise in the apartments that do not face the street and the poster told how to distinguish between the rooms facing the street and the ones not facing the street by their number. Would you know how to distinguish these by the room number? Or anyone else reading this who knows how?The apts ending in 01 have bedrooms facing the carerra 70 bars and therefore are hard to sleep until after 4 AM. The units ending in 02 and 03 have living rooms facing 70 and bedrooms on the other side. You can still hear the weekend noise but not as bad. The apts ening in 02 are slightly bigger and nicer than the 03 units from my experiences there. So I always request an 02 apartment.
The Tall Man
10-04-21, 16:29
Epic is one of those overused words in the English vocabulary that has lost a lot of meaning because of it. When I use it it means exceeded* my expectations and better than anything in my recent memory. My recent memory is not all that good from all the drugs, jajajaaa. Love you guys and I have learned more from you than I could possibly contribute.
I can't keep up anymore for a long time now, skimming the mountain tops. Time management. I am going to try to give my body some sleep this time and not go totally Gonzo.
Regular girl Managerette is supposed to show up at 8:30 in the morning, but every time I write what my plans are when I look back 90% of the time it never turns out that way and 90% of the time it's better. That whole, Why make plans in Medellin, thang?I feel your pain, hehehehe heck after 5 years living in Medellin and you would think that it, I should say I, would slow down but no just every week picks up more and more momentum that keeps pushing so I am hanging on for the ride, hehehehehe.
During the lock down last year I had 2 live in 18 yo Vennies, I gave each one their own bedroom and over the course of 7 months at will I could choose either Bedroom #1 or #2, day or night at will and it never got old as I would invite a few of my regulars over even during the lock down, they would sneak over to my apartment and game on. Love it. Love to always mix it up.
Hell I need I get away from Medellin from time to time just to give my body and dick a chance to rest but then soon enough I am back in the saddle with more sex partners than any man could wish for do the nasty, hehehhe.
The Tall Man.
Mojo Bandit
10-04-21, 16:53
This is to add to what has been said over the last couple of weeks in what to look for when searching for prepagos in Medellin who work off of Facebook. I noticed that someone posted a few days back about the FB page "Happy Ending Medellin" having prepagos and mongers in the friends list of the page. I looked through there briefly and saw a few active chicas and a few active mongers. The catch is to find one who does not have a private friends list. My advice is to click on any gringo name and see if you can see their friends list. And if the name looks made up the there is a 99% chance they are a monger. Though chances are pretty good in a page called happy endings anyway.
I also saw some chica pages that I know to be dead ends. The chicas have either mover on or they started antother profiles so you want to pay attention to the last time they updated their profile photo and their background photo. A year is acceptable because if it is her working profile and not her main profile that can happen - 2 years means its probably and dead end.
One sure sign that a chica is prepago is if she has gringos in her friends list. One poster mentioned that they will have revealing photos. My favorite type of revealing photo. Becuase in mostcases it is unmistakably a indicator is the photo of the chica sitting / laying on her bed in her underwear. As I mentioned before in other posts another thing to look for is the devil's horns in any shape or form including the devil emoji. A photo of a stack of money is a good sign she is a prepago. Below I show a meme I have seen it is a chica in a "new" fresh sweat suit holding her cash. This is a prepago meme showing what her work has gotten her. I have also seen the chica put a filter on the photo to give it a "red light" look. I am attaching examples. Other things that migh be on the pager are the sexy nun. Or the on I call the masked bank robber look as shown below.
I once saw a meme where it showed two chicas. One chica was dressed plain and had an average cell phone in her hand, the other chica who was doing the talking had on an addidas sweat suit and an Iphone and the caption said "my friend has a job and she has a plain cell phone. I play around with old men and I have an Iphone".
The first link is the Happy Ending Medeelin page the second link has prepagos and mongers also it is the strip club La Isla's FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/camilo.grajales.3705
https://www.facebook.com/laisla.medellin
Epic is one of those overused words in the English vocabulary that has lost a lot of meaning because of it. When I use it it means exceeded* my expectations and better than anything in my recent memory. My recent memory is not all that good from all the drugs, jajajaaa. Love you guys and I have learned more from you than I could possibly contribute.
I can't keep up anymore for a long time now, skimming the mountain tops. Time management. I am going to try to give my body some sleep this time and not go totally Gonzo.
Regular girl Managerette is supposed to show up at 8:30 in the morning, but every time I write what my plans are when I look back 90% of the time it never turns out that way and 90% of the time it's better. That whole, Why make plans in Medellin, thang?Sometimes you seem stoned out of your mind, or maybe all the time. LOL.
Maybe throttle it back a little bit on whatever your consuming so there's a little more coherency in your posts, and perhaps allow your saddlebags to re-fill. LOL.
I've been thinking about coming to Medellin for a week and work from the hotel. I, like many, are working from home right now. I am partial to SW's and Casas like La Mezzanine in Bogota. A couple of questions I have though:
1. I'd like to be close to El Centro because I would like to, in between meetings at work, grab a girl for a quicky. Can anyone recommend a good hotel that has good internet (this is vital), close to El Centro to grab a SW off and on throughout the day and is a nice (like Hilton type)?
2. Are their any casas close to El Centro that I could also pop in during the day in between meetings?
3. Do any of you take these SW girls from El CEntro to your hotel or do you take them to the short time hotels that I am sure are near where these girls are?
4. I see alot of you are using Seeking Arrangements before you come to Medellin. Is it worth the $100?
Showdown.
Two hotels ago I struck up a friendship with the hotel manager where I was staying. I liked her because she was strict and obsessive-compulsive about how she ran the place. For example I checked in and checked out a couple of times at her hotel. She would call me if I was 1 minute over check out time. She told me, "Check out time is 1 not 1:01, 1:15 or 1:30 or 3, but 1:00."LOL.
One time she seemed to relish telling Catgirl my guest fee charges to see if she would get a reaction but Catgirl was nonplussed. There were many other examples.
Doing what mongers do, I felt she needed to be fucked, and fucked hard.
I went into full pursuit but she put up a cock-block. She had personally seen at least 10 girls come and go from my room and she told me she would like to be friends but she would never sleep with me.
She is a very conservative, religious girl who wears a crucifix around her neck and lives with her mom and her sister. She had me over for dinner at her apartment and she dyed my hair. She is cute with a great midriff but not someone who you would turn around and look at twice here in this country. By far, the attraction was the interpersonal dynamic that we had going. The pure little Catholic girl and the bad boy Foreigner.
Then she got fired from her job and her moto broke down. She was the only breadwinner for her family. Recognizing the opportunity I made her a cash offer for two encounters.
After a lot of messaging back and forth, she showed up in my new hotel room but got cold feet at the last minute. She was really conflicted with a bunch of moral guilt bullshit.
I got some excellent coaching from Villainy who told me to frame the offer as a gift or regalo and not make it seem like she was being paid for sex. The irony there was I just gave that exact same advice to a fellow monger here on this board a couple of weeks ago. That shows you how hard it is to be objective and think clearly when you are in the middle of such affairs.
The regalo concept seemed to resonate with her and she asked for a second chance. She told me she had only one boyfriend in her life for 2 years when she was nineteen. She has never given a blowjob and they only did straight sex, he broke up with her because she was not exciting enough and she suffered from depression.
She kept saying she wanted to become good friends. She was supposed to show up here at my hotel 8:30 this morning. She confirmed last night, but was a no-show this morning. No messages. Total flake out. She may come around eventually but it's not worth putting in more effort considering how easy it is to get most girls here. Keepin' it real and sharing the flops along with the fun. I would have liked to seal the deal but no regrets and the pursuit was fun, and more than likely would have been the best part considering her inexperience. At least that's how I'm rationalizing it for my ego. Ostee Out.
Random gratuitous photos, the two girls are sisters or at least that's what they told me, Sisters by a different mother.
This is to add to what has been said over the last couple of weeks in what to look for when searching for prepagos in Medellin who work off of Facebook. I noticed that someone posted a few days back about the FB page "Happy Ending Medellin" having prepagos and mongers in the friends list of the page. I looked through there briefly and saw a few active chicas and a few active mongers. The catch is to find one who does not have a private friends list. My advice is to click on any gringo name and see if you can see their friends list. And if the name looks made up the there is a 99% chance they are a monger. Though chances are pretty good in a page called happy endings anyway.
I also saw some chica pages that I know to be dead ends. The chicas have either mover on or they started antother profiles so you want to pay attention to the last time they updated their profile photo and their background photo. A year is acceptable because if it is her working profile and not her main profile that can happen - 2 years means its probably and dead end.
One sure sign that a chica is prepago is if she has gringos in her friends list. One poster mentioned that they will have revealing photos. My favorite type of revealing photo. Becuase in mostcases it is unmistakably a indicator is the photo of the chica sitting / laying on her bed in her underwear. As I mentioned before in other posts another thing to look for is the devil's horns in any shape or form including the devil emoji..I'm doing exactly what you describe here. I started polling FB about 1 week ago, and I have friended with 30 sexy (semi) pro.
The process is slow, but works. I only found profiles from Medellin, none from Cartagena or Cali, and I wish them too.
As for other, I do not know whether FB is enough, or I should spend for Seeking or ColombianCupid. If there are many additional profiles, I would be happy to spend. Any expert feedback?
Any day I am in Centro (which is more often than not) I see these guys. More than anything else, what stands out about them for me is they seem to be more into each other than anything else. I very rarely see any of them alone. Even when they are headed off with a girl I will often seem them do it in pairs. A couple of the younger guys among them appear to enjoy using drugs. I sometimes notice them going it alone. I am not judging, I am sharing my observations. You can see for yourself on any of the growing number of youtube videos.
Switching gears, I've read comments about greatly increased police presence and a surge of hiring female officers corresponding to the installation of the fence around Plaza Botero. The official story is police were redeployed from other areas. Also, and this may be of particular interest to some of you, the fence entrances were situated for maximum visibility by surveillance cameras that were already in place. The fence was promptly breached within days of its installation. Street urchins can cross the fence through various openings they made to avoid police control points. I quite like the placement of the fence beneath the metro tracks between the Nutibara Hotel and the Parque Berrio station because it keeps the pushcart vendors off to the side near the roadway. It was annoying when they used to clog the walkway and cyclists would dart around them through the crowd.
Over the past six months I have noticed a tremendous amount of gringos, more so than I have ever seen before in Centro. And like you, I suspect very few are posters here with the exception of a few, like Knowledge, who post about their observations on this board.
What I do know though about all of the non-posting gringos is you have two groups, the newbie Colombian mongers getting hosed and paying high prices, and others who have spent a lot of time there. There are some non-posters who spend months at a time there who I have met, that know way more than I do about what goes on, so I really don't consider myself an exception in the scheme of things. I actually consider myself a part timer in Centro as I don't stay in Centro, but am there most days for a few hours at a time. Sometimes it's just part of my daily routine.
And as far as some of the others I've mentioned who are non-posters, some have gone with dozens and dozens of the girls working there, a lot of them speak Spanish, and can tell you which ones are the performers and which one's aren't, how much they cost, and all kinds of other information..
I've been thinking about coming to Medellin for a week and work from the hotel.As far as I am aware there are no international chain nor fancy hotels en el centro. The best there is seems to be hotel nutibara. It looks very grand from the outside, like a listed building, but dated on the inside. Nonetheless, the staff are good and it in perfect location. Internet is very wesk on lower floors, and best on lvl 8.
Easy to bring girls back from the street because its right next to the action. Its FOC during daytime, but they say there is a fee for a guest staying over, but I don't know how much it is because they always forget to bill me.
There are also many casas within easy walk of 20 minutes.
Traffic is a nightmare in mde so it think it is worth it to stay in centro.
This is to add to what has been said over the last couple of weeks in what to look for when searching for prepagos in Medellin who work off of Facebook. I noticed that someone posted a few days back about the FB page "Happy Ending Medellin" having prepagos and mongers in the friends list of the page. I looked through there briefly and saw a few active chicas and a few active mongers. The catch is to find one who does not have a private friends list. My advice is to click on any gringo name and see if you can see their friends list. And if the name looks made up the there is a 99% chance they are a monger. Though chances are pretty good in a page called happy endings anyway.
I also saw some chica pages that I know to be dead ends. The chicas have either mover on or they started antother profiles so you want to pay attention to the last time they updated their profile photo and their background photo. A year is acceptable because if it is her working profile and not her main profile that can happen - 2 years means its probably and dead end.
One sure sign that a chica is prepago is if she has gringos in her friends list. One poster mentioned that they will have revealing photos. My favorite type of revealing photo. Becuase in mostcases it is unmistakably a indicator is the photo of the chica sitting / laying on her bed in her underwear. As I mentioned before in other posts another thing to look for is the devil's horns in any shape or form including the devil emoji. A photo of a stack of money is a good sign she is a prepago. Below I show a meme I have seen it is a chica in a "new" fresh sweat suit holding her cash. This is a prepago meme showing what her work has gotten her. I have also seen the chica put a filter on the photo to give it a "red light" look. I am attaching examples. Other things that migh be on the pager are the sexy nun. Or the on I call the masked bank robber look as shown below.Add in "elevator photos" to your list of prepago tells. Also jacuzzi photos, rooftop pool photos are a dead giveaway.
Well I touched down and what do you know facebook, whatsapp and insta are all down. So went got a haircut, massage. Getting some work done now and then meeting up with someone to hit one of the casas then dinner maybe pick up a lleras girl and call it an early night. Hopefully it's all up tomorrow.
Well I touched down and what do you know facebook, whatsapp and insta are all down..Thanks for sharing that. I was thinking it was just local to me and maybe the service provider in the apartment. Obvioulsy not! I wonder what the issue is. Some sites are working, others not. YT works for example, but not Wsp and FB as you say. Very strange. Mahybe the Chinese. Hehe.
Thanks for sharing that. I was thinking it was just local to me and maybe the service provider in the apartment. Obvioulsy not! I wonder what the issue is. Some sites are working, others not. YT works for example, but not Wsp and FB as you say. Very strange. Mahybe the Chinese. Hehe.All over the news, not sure exactly but yes Facebook and WhatsApp big issues today / starting last night I think! OMG what we going to do? LOL maybe girls will be cheaper tomorrow or next day if it stays down! LOL.
Switching gears, I've read comments about greatly increased police presence and a surge of hiring female officers corresponding to the installation of the fence around Plaza Botero. Yes, I have seen more female officers most of which are not armed who have been busting peoples chops. A few weeks ago I witnessed a pair of female officers with an attitude searching some young Venezuelan guys, loser boyfriends. And they had some dolls in their backpacks and people were howling in laughter when the cops pulled them out of their packs. These women cops were also telling girls not to stand in front of the statues, and had a bad ass attitude about them, albeit no guns. The fencing I think is to help with security more than anything else as at one of the entrances by the Church they always seem to have a cop stationed there. The entrances seem more like choke points, so a thief theoretically would have to exit thru them albeit could hop the fences or go thru the existing breaches.
BlackThought
10-05-21, 01:42
Just to add (from my post earlier today which, hopefully, admin will allow. Otherwise this will be totally without context!
On facebook, I friend requested a few ladies on the 'happy ending Medellin' group (it's actually listed as a person if you search). They haven't accepted my request yet. But my 'recommended' friend list has lit up. A great starting point for options to cultivate a good friends list.Just friend requested this page with my fake account. Thanks.
Well maybe in the year 2050. Def disagree with this thought. Tourists are the exception, not the norm in MDE. Most places have to sell their servcies and products to the local market, so these prices will cut it in the general market.I meant for tourists, not expats.
FlagRunner77
10-05-21, 02:59
So, I'm sorry to ask, but I just can't find any info searching, and I'm getting a bad vibe.
I'm due to visit for the first time in November. I'm an obvious gringo, travelling solo, with very little Spanish (but I'm still learning daily). I'm really having second thoughts about my trip. I normally travel to Thailand where there are lots of expats to meet up with. But I'm really struggling to get together a plan from the information I can gather. Whenever someone mentions a casa or gives a recommendation (like Motel Ibiza) I'm noting it, but still I have no idea where I'm looking to visit when I arrive.
To add to that, I've been adding FB ladies and some of them are posting memes making fun of gringos. So obviously these are bad calls on my part.
I have 4 weeks to go, but still feeling as lost as I was 4 weeks ago when I booked my flights.
Are gringos really put down so much? I can't hide the fact that I'm a gringo!
Are there gringo-friendly places / casas? I don't plan to visit El Centro, and probably not Poblado also, given what I've read. So I'm running out of ideas for places where I'm not going to be taken for a sucker.
Am I over-thinking things?
Condoms.
I posted before that there is a wide variety in the quality of condoms, especially and including the degree of sensation felt while wearing one. I believe I recommended Trojan Gold, and I normally bring a supply from the states. But they are very expensive and might be the most expensive condom on the market I'm not sure. * I ran out of those a long time ago on this trip.
I've tried condoms here that were as bad as the proverbial raincoat, basically you could feel nothing.
Then I stumbled across these two brands and they are both good. The first one, Duo Ultrasensible, was recommended to me by a pharmacist in the drugstore on the corner closest to the Vera Cruz Church near Ground Zero.
The second brand, Tulip, surprisingly are the ones they hand out free at the Hotel Real Botero, not coincidentally the closest hotel to the same pharmacy and to the front door of the Vera Cruz church. I feel certain both brands are readily available. And I'm not saying these are the only good ones but these are the two I have found that do a good job. And no breakage to report so far.
Now here is the "Pearl" I've never heard anyone repeat, told to me by a doctor a long time ago. Put a dab of lube on the inside tip of the condom before you put it on. That greatly improves heat conduction and sensation to disagree there have been times when I could not even tell I had a condom on, no kidding.
Ostee Out.
Has everyone else's text typing and voice to text gone wonky since the Internet crash yesterday, or is it just me?
I just noticed my FB friend suggestions went to hell today after the outage. Before, FB magic made my friend suggestions mostly girls living in Medellin, with a good number showing signs of being a prepago. Yesterday afternoon it became a mix of dudes and other random. I just went back to my sent friend requests that were not accepted and resent about 10 of them. Then FB started showing Medellin girls again. Fuck you FB for knowing me so well.
The Tall Man
10-05-21, 15:52
Add in "elevator photos" to your list of prepago tells. Also jacuzzi photos, rooftop pool photos are a dead giveaway.So true!
And I will one-up on this about the prepagos and photos as I see many of photos where the chica is wearing an article of clothing or bag that I purchased and which I gave her as a gift a few years back before she got heavy into the scene.
So some of these I trained them so you all owe me a debt of gratitude, hehehehe.
The Tall Man.
I meant for tourists, not expats.I don't see a material difference TBH. If a place starts charging high prices, just move on to the next place. There are tons of them. Just go to a locals place and get the local prices.
Mr Enternational
10-05-21, 16:30
So, I'm sorry to ask, but I just can't find any info searching, and I'm getting a bad vibe.
I'm due to visit for the first time in November. I'm an obvious gringo, travelling solo, with very little Spanish (but I'm still learning daily). I'm really having second thoughts about my trip. I normally travel to Thailand where there are lots of expats to meet up with. But I'm really struggling to get together a plan from the information I can gather. Whenever someone mentions a casa or gives a recommendation (like Motel Ibiza) I'm noting it, but still I have no idea where I'm looking to visit when I arrive.
To add to that, I've been adding FB ladies and some of them are posting memes making fun of gringos. So obviously these are bad calls on my part.
I have 4 weeks to go, but still feeling as lost as I was 4 weeks ago when I booked my flights.
Are gringos really put down so much? I can't hide the fact that I'm a gringo!
Are there gringo-friendly places / casas? I don't plan to visit El Centro, and probably not Poblado also, given what I've read. So I'm running out of ideas for places where I'm not going to be taken for a sucker.
Am I over-thinking things?Way overthinking things. You can't figure out what is going on by reading and watching videos on the internet. You have to get there and start doing. Ibiza is just a short time motel that some guys like to go to. No need to even worry about that. Latin culture pokes fun. If you are very serious and can not take a joke then I do not know what to tell you. They nickname people on how they appear, but do not mean anything by it. So you could be fatso, slim, shorty, black, or whatever the fuck. Same as Thailand where you could be called pumpui (chubby), noi (small), lek (skinny), dam dam (black), thea (shorty), etc.
Get there and get your bearings. You certainly will not get them on the internet. Most foreigners stay in Poblado and some of us hard-core cheapskates say downtown. You plan to go to neither place? Well where do you plan on staying and hanging out or who do you plan on hanging out with since you are not following the usual path of where the foreigners will be? And the casas are downtown. It is like you are going to Bangkok for the first time and planning to stay in On Nut instead of Nana or Asoke. Medellin is not like Thailand. There is no separate stuff for foreigners, except places like Gustos where you are going to get ripped off. You will be fucking right alongside local guys.
Mojo Bandit
10-05-21, 17:32
So, I'm sorry to ask, but I just can't find any info searching, and I'm getting a bad vibe.
I'm due to visit for the first time in November. I'm an obvious gringo, travelling solo, with very little Spanish (but I'm still learning daily). I'm really having second thoughts about my trip. I normally travel to Thailand where there are lots of expats to meet up with. But I'm really struggling to get together a plan from the information I can gather. Whenever someone mentions a casa or gives a recommendation (like Motel Ibiza) I'm noting it, but still I have no idea where I'm looking to visit when I arrive.
To add to that, I've been adding FB ladies and some of them are posting memes making fun of gringos. So obviously these are bad calls on my part.
Are there gringo-friendly places / casas? I don't plan to visit El Centro, and probably not Poblado also, given what I've read. So I'm running out of ideas for places where I'm not going to be taken for a sucker.
Am I over-thinking things?Listen to Mr E and take note that you are probably overthinking it. I do not know what you read about Poblado and yes there have been some shit go down there recently but overall it is not that dangerous, especially if you stay in a building with security. Regardless of where you stay I would recommend that you stay in a building with security to screen your visitors. It covers you for safety and keep you from accidently getting yourself in trouble. Also to help you get a little bit of bearing you can familiarize yourself with the Medellin list and the Medllin map that I am providing a link to below. You'll see lists of places of interest for usw mongers and then you can cross reference or just study the map to show you exactly where these places are.
There is also a thread called travel announcements which you may be able to use to find other gringos to hook up with. Link at the bottom.
Also look for my PM I will send you some other info.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists&p=2611783#post2611783.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2235-Travel-Announcements-Only-(No-questions-or-comments-please).
Am I over-thinking things?I would just add that MDE is not like Thailand, or Phils fo rthat matter. Things are not laid on a plate as easily for tourists as they are there. MDE is a city. Its a little rough around the edges. It is not really a tourist place. Although quite a lot of USAns go there for sex toursim, and a few USA young folk go bcos they think its a hip thing to do. But by tourism standards, there are not many regular tourists, especially not from outside the USA.
That being said, if you are an independent thinking kinda person, it aint so difficult. I'd draw up a shortlist of places and things you want to do, then figure out how to do them. Choose the easy things first. Decide on a place to stay. Somewhere close to some action preferably since traffic is a nightmare in MDE. Then identify your targets. Casas are a really simple start. They are open 7 days a week (well, some are). You can just get a taxi there. Choose one that is close by some others, so you can walk around if you don't like the line up.
Or find a wingman who can show you around for the day or a few hours.
Or choose a more tourist orientated city like Santa Marta, where things are a little easier.
Yes, I will be in Santa Marta the last week of October as part of a visit to Cartagena. I agree that it is a lot easier to negotiate than MDE and the prices for everything from food to hotels to the ladies are quite reasonable. You might say there is not a lot to do in SMA but you could make the same argument for MDE but at least there is a beach and several nicer ones in the Tayrona National Park, if you have the time. This will be my third visit but it has been a few years since my last and that was pre Covid and before the Vennie invasion. At least, there are no Haitians there. LOL.
Hope to provide a full report.
I would just add that MDE is not like Thailand, or Phils fo rthat matter. Things are not laid on a plate as easily for tourists as they are there. MDE is a city. Its a little rough around the edges. It is not really a tourist place. Although quite a lot of USAns go there for sex toursim, and a few USA young folk go bcos they think its a hip thing to do. But by tourism standards, there are not many regular tourists, especially not from outside the USA.
That being said, if you are an independent thinking kinda person, it aint so difficult. I'd draw up a shortlist of places and things you want to do, then figure out how to do them. Choose the easy things first. Decide on a place to stay. Somewhere close to some action preferably since traffic is a nightmare in MDE. Then identify your targets. Casas are a really simple start. They are open 7 days a week (well, some are). You can just get a taxi there. Choose one that is close by some others, so you can walk around if you don't like the line up.
Or find a wingman who can show you around for the day or a few hours.
Or choose a more tourist orientated city like Santa Marta, where things are a little easier.
Jadoomazar
10-05-21, 19:51
I would just add that MDE is not like Thailand, or Phils fo rthat matter. Things are not laid on a plate as easily for tourists as they are there. MDE is a city. Its a little rough around the edges. It is not really a tourist place. Although quite a lot of USAns go there for sex toursim, and a few USA young folk go bcos they think its a hip thing to do. But by tourism standards, there are not many regular tourists, especially not from outside the USA.
That being said, if you are an independent thinking kinda person, it ain't so difficult. I'd draw up a shortlist of places and things you want to do, then figure out how to do them. Choose the easy things first. Decide on a place to stay. Somewhere close to some action preferably since traffic is a nightmare in MDE. Then identify your targets. Casas are a really simple start. They are open 7 days a week (well, some are). You can just get a taxi there. Choose one that is close by some others, so you can walk around if you don't like the line up.
Or find a wingman who can show you around for the day or a few hours.
Or choose a more tourist orientated city like Santa Marta, where things are a little easier.I am also planning my first trip to MDE in few weeks. I plan to stay in Parque Lleras, hotel Du Parc. I know its a little expensive but I want to be near the action. I do not want to spend too much time traveling. I am working on lining up some SA chicks who will come to me. Would you agree that this is a good start for my first trip and get familiar with the things?
Thanks for your input in advance.
JM.
Regnom3000
10-05-21, 19:59
Gracias hermano! Have been looking for some good brands to use here because all the ones I've been using seem to be pretty terrible. But I've used those tulip ones (I believe they're the ones the girls use in most casas) and they tend to work great.
Also appreciate the advice from your doc. Excited to give it a shot.
Will report back once tried and tested jaja.
3 K.
Condoms.
I posted before that there is a wide variety in the quality of condoms, especially and including the degree of sensation felt while wearing one. I believe I recommended Trojan Gold, and I normally bring a supply from the states. But they are very expensive and might be the most expensive condom on the market I'm not sure. * I ran out of those a long time ago on this trip.
I've tried condoms here that were as bad as the proverbial raincoat, basically you could feel nothing.
Then I stumbled across these two brands and they are both good. The first one, Duo Ultrasensible, was recommended to me by a pharmacist in the drugstore on the corner closest to the Vera Cruz Church near Ground Zero.
...I'm noting it, but still I have no idea where I'm looking to visit when I arrive....I hope this can get you started for the first couple of days.
Day time, you can take a Uber to New Life near El Centro, see the map and list in Mojo's post. New Life has standard price, pay after and it is cheap. You don't have to take anyone, in that case, buy a drink to avoid the fee which is 4 mil when I last visited. When you are done, go to Plaza Botero for sightseeing and just observe some street actions, you don't need to participate, stay in the tourist area where you can see police. When it gets dark, you can try the strip club Conejita. This is just across the street from Plaza Botero. You can find pricing and more detail from Mojo's post. Another daytime place to go is Fantasia Energy at Laureles.
At night, you can go to La Isla. It's a high end strip club. It is more expensive but the price is fixed so you don't need to worry about scam. The striper will ask for tip after dance. I just give each 2 mil. You can grope them or interact with them. You can get 2 mil bills from the bar or the waiter can get it for you. If you see a girl you like, ask about service and take her to the room. The price should be fixed. You can pay by credit card at the bar. You can spend several hours here.
You can also check out Gusto other night after La Isla, go there and treat it like a bar in US. You don't have to take girl here and I don't recommend it. After La Isla, you view point probably already adjusted so you have less impulse paying higher price to take a girl here. Just search for the word Gusto to learn more.
All these places are used to Gringos so you should not have problem.
CuriousFun
10-05-21, 20:08
I just noticed my FB friend suggestions went to hell today after the outage. Before, FB magic made my friend suggestions mostly girls living in Medellin, with a good number showing signs of being a prepago. Yesterday afternoon it became a mix of dudes and other random. I just went back to my sent friend requests that were not accepted and resent about 10 of them. Then FB started showing Medellin girls again. Fuck you FB for knowing me so well.This happened to me as well! Although I have a couple hundred girls on FB already, I know there are more!
Member #2001
10-05-21, 23:20
Yes, I have seen more female officers most of which are not armed who have been busting peoples chops. A few weeks ago I witnessed a pair of female officers with an attitude searching some young Venezuelan guys, loser boyfriends. And they had some dolls in their backpacks and people were howling in laughter when the cops pulled them out of their packs. These women cops were also telling girls not to stand in front of the statues, and had a bad ass attitude about them, albeit no guns. The fencing I think is to help with security more than anything else as at one of the entrances by the Church they always seem to have a cop stationed there. The entrances seem more like choke points, so a thief theoretically would have to exit thru them albeit could hop the fences or go thru the existing breaches.I did not see too many breaches, cept one. However they are always stationed and the choke points. They have really been cracking down lately. No drinking outside after 8. Cops have been hanging out late at night outside the parameter also. There is a sense of safety, but also a since of harassments as anyone that comes into the zone will have their backpack checked, and ask for ID. Girls are also disappearing at night. Most of them migrate towards the other side of Veracruz. Where all the bars are. Love motel closes at 9 I think, but you can get buzzed in, if so inclined too.
I have seen a big difference sense a month ago. Recommended time to go would be in the late morning to late afternoon.
Hi everyone,
This is my first post here. I have been lurking around for the last two weeks in preparation for a trip to MDE next week and I am very thankful for all the input so far.
I am having some trouble and hope some of you can help me learn the strides of this great hobby.
The last time I was mongering was in 2010 in Cartagena, and I have great memories of going to la Dolce Vita and just looking at the menu and takings someone back to the hotel.
I have read that Haven is a great place that everyone recommends, but does anyone have any experience with Art Boutique Hotel? Company already has a room booked there for me and I wanted to ask if someone knows about their chica policy. Room is booked for 2 already though.
The last time I was in Cartagena I had a great time and the last chica I was with I spent 3 days with, also taking her back to Bogota. Besides all the fucking we were having loads of fun and she didn't; charge extra, so why not right? Thing is we've stayed in touch the last 10 years and we've seen each other in different places of the world. She was working in Mexico some time and we met a lot of times while I was travelling for work. At some point we stopped fucking because age caught up with her and I didn't feel like it anymore. For some reason, as crazy as it sounds, we still talk sometime and have still meet for drinks whenever we are in the same country. She offered to take me tour the chica scene in Medellin. She still works and she knows I'm not interested in her, but she will spend the first night showing me around.
But now to my real issue. I am a nervous wreck whenever it comes to approaching women. Even if it is a working chica. I never know if you need to do small talk or if you go straight to the point while approaching? I have been reading that you have to prepare a facebook list of some. What do you write to them? I made an account a week ago and started adding friends after I followed some previous facebook report from here. I then started doing this on an Instagram account which got blocked after the first five DMs I've sent. This account is blocked until Friday. I know now that you have to change the texts to not look like a bot now. Lesson learned, but still I need to prepare my list right? Is Facebook or Instagram better. The UI is better on IG and if IG works, I'd rather focus on that one.
So how do you talk to them? Do you do small talk? Do you compliment them? Or do you go straight to the point? I've tried all kinds of openers. I speak Spanish, so that's not an issue.
From saying I like your pics, I would like to meet you. Let me know if you are open for it, to Ill be in Medellin. Do you escort?
By now I've added 50 chicas. I've written to 40 of them. On Instagram, girls started following me all of a sudden. Do you take those seriously? Or are those mostly bots? Do you just talk to chicas you have added yourself to avoid or do you follow back and talk to them? I'm kind of worried of finding a scammer for some reason.
Of all the girls I've written to, 3 have responded. 1 does only Onlyfans and when I asked her if we can meet, she said plain no. The second one said she sold OF content, and she would meet me for 500 mil. I was like that is too much! I pay 150 k + taxi as I've seen in the forum.
She just said "hijupueta mas canson" which translates to something like what an obnoxious fucker and she blocked me.
The other one has not responded yet. So am I doing this right? Am I adding the wrong girls. I get confused because I want to hire them for their services but don't know If I should just say hey I want to fuck for money. Do you do that?
I do feel comfortable that I won't be going out alone the first night, but I want to have everything prepared to go out on my own afterwards. I have anxiety issues that I'm trying to face and I always get nervous when I go monger. Probably the reason I have not done it for such a long time. I'm really looking forward to change that.
Last question before I end this post. I see that everyone is amazed at centro and parque Lleras. I had a great time picking someone at Dolce Vita. Would that be something similar to what Zandaly or La Isla are in Medellin? Or is it more like Loutron?
I was also looking at spending a night at Mansion. I only have 4 days and I think I'm trying to see as much as possible not considering that I can only fuck a limited amount of time each day.
I'll happily report about everything when I get back.
Thank you in advance for all your input.
This community has been great help so far.
Cheers,
Chopari.
ManchesterCat
10-06-21, 00:55
After some time out of action, we're back with a vengeance. Planning is underway for the next trip.
Personal preference is natural and petite. To be complete honest, prefer Slavic looks, but South American culture / attitude.
I've RTFF and set up a new FB account. Have started adding people from MDE, but progress has been slow. I've been reluctant to upload photos of myself, so the profile probably feels fake. After 1-2 weeks, still only have 20 accepted requests. Will upload some more content (poems, scenery etc- I think other have suggested). Any advice at all would be much appreciated, feel free to message me with specific tips.
I've also got the idea / fantasy to throw a bit of a party, with a number of girls (ideally ones that don't know each other) and maybe even a couple of guys. Have read that having more than 1 girl around can be a bad idea, but keen to get thoughts, and if any locals are interested, hit me up.
FlagRunner77
10-06-21, 01:43
I hope this can get you started for the first couple of days.
Day time, you can take a Uber to New Life near El Centro, see the map and list in Mojo's post. New Life has standard price, pay after and it is cheap. You don't have to take anyone, in that case, buy a drink to avoid the fee which is 4 mil when I last visited. When you are done, go to Plaza Botero for sightseeing and just observe some street actions, you don't need to participate, stay in the tourist area where you can see police. When it gets dark, you can try the strip club Conejita. This is just across the street from Plaza Botero. You can find pricing and more detail from Mojo's post. Another daytime place to go is Fantasia Energy at Laureles.
At night, you can go to La Isla. It's a high end strip club. It is more expensive but the price is fixed so you don't need to worry about scam. The striper will ask for tip after dance. I just give each 2 mil. You can grope them or interact with them. You can get 2 mil bills from the bar or the waiter can get it for you. If you see a girl you like, ask about service and take her to the room. The price should be fixed. You can pay by credit card at the bar. You can spend several hours here..Nounce, and all other responders, thank you for your advice. I do appreciate it. I'm not a club guy, more of a casa / FB guy, which is why I wasn't planning on Poblado. But finding information on casas is pretty tough. And still waiting on the breakthrough on FB. My lack of Spanish is also going to hinder me I suspect.
Truth be told, COVID has been a real *****, and if I can even find one or two ladies who I click with, I'd be happy and repeat for the full trip.
Maybe something in my favor is that I actually prefer 'plain Janes' over 10/10's. So I'll maybe be focusing on a different demographic than many others.
I'll keep researching. Thanks to everyone who PM'd me. I really do appreciate it!
I think your experience from 2010 may not apply anymore. You will be seeing a different breed.
Am I doing this right? Planning trip to MDE for the first time...I think you just need to determine if she is a hooker.
Starting with this one and others after it.
This is to add to what has been said over the last couple of weeks in what to look for when searching for prepagos in Medellin who work off of Facebook. ...
Iguana Six
10-06-21, 02:29
Are there gringo-friendly places / casas? I don't plan to visit El Centro, and probably not Poblado also, given what I've read. So I'm running out of ideas for places where I'm not going to be taken for a sucker.
Am I over-thinking things?Keep working on your Spanish. I recommend the telenovela (soap opera) "Las Munecas de la Mafia," as it is set in Colombia, in and around Medellin and you will hear the accents in the area, the production values are excellent, and the women are gorgeous. Try Ebay. If you can get a subtitled version, fine, but if not, get it anyway and focus on context and picking up phrases.
Learn the exchange rate and start getting comfortable with the money and what things cost. The largest denomination bill is a 50,000 COP, but remember to always have smaller denominations with you, especially at night, so you don't have to overpay for cabs and stuff. 10 ks, 20 k's, and 50 ks are your most useful bills.
See if you can get booked into the Medellin Mansion, or whatever it is calling itself these days. Yes, everyone outgrows it eventually, but for your first trip, it is very good. You'll get breakfast, you will have an instant support network with the staff, and you will benefit from the experience of other guests. You might make a couple of new monger friends you will want to return with. And it is a safe place to meet new talent. Since you are an experienced Thailand traveler, you will want to "take the training wheels off" and probably branch out into other neighborhoods and renting a solo or double apartment on your second trip, or as soon as you learn Spanish.
Study the maps and learn where things are in relation to each other: Poblado to Centro, Centro to Laureles, and how everything is connected by the Metro. And what you should pay for cabfare between destinations.
Figure out your comfort level. If you like to drink, maybe you don't want to do it, or do to much when you are with a new girl. How comfortable are you with drugs like herb and Tusi?
There is an old shore leave expression: "Nothing good happens to you when you are out wandering around after _ o'clock. " Depending on where you are, and who you are, and your comfort level for danger, decide if it is 10 o'clock, or 1 o'clock in the morning, or 4 o'clock in the morning.
You can do some vetting of potential companions here. This board can steer you away from the ticking time bombs.
Hi.
This post is not about you but what is it with guys here that feel they need to have an extensive list of FB contacts? What exactly are they trying to accomplish? I read so many here complain that they don't get responses back. Why should the FB girl respond if you are not going to physically be in Medellin anytime soon? " muy canson " meaning 'very tiring' . The girls don't want to be bothered with this. If you want a response, send a friend request with a message or just a message telling them when you will be available. If you are not going to be there anytime soon then wait. I have been going to Medellin for a good 5 years now and see mostly FB girls. Most of them I contact via messenger and they are not on my friends list. Why not? Because you don't need to this. I checked my FB periodically and trim down the number of contacts. I have 80 right now which means I should consider eliminating half of them.
Hi everyone,
This is my first post here. I have been lurking around for the last two weeks in preparation for a trip to MDE next week and I am very thankful for all the input so far.
I am having some trouble and hope some of you can help me learn the strides of this great hobby.
The last time I was mongering was in 2010 in Cartagena, and I have great memories of going to la Dolce Vita and just looking at the menu and takings someone back to the hotel.
I have read that Haven is a great place that everyone recommends, but does anyone have any experience with Art Boutique Hotel? Company already has a room booked there for me and I wanted to ask if someone knows about their chica policy. Room is booked for 2 already though.
The last time I was in Cartagena I had a great time and the last chica I was with I spent 3 days with, also taking her back to Bogota. Besides all the fucking we were having loads of fun and she didn't; charge extra, so why not right? Thing is we've stayed in touch the last 10 years and we've seen each other in different places of the world. She was working in Mexico some time and we met a lot of times while I was travelling for work. At some point we stopped fucking because age caught up with her and I didn't feel like it anymore. For some reason, as crazy as it sounds, we still talk sometime and have still meet for drinks whenever we are in the same country. She offered to take me tour the chica scene in Medellin. She still works and she knows I'm not interested in her, but she will spend the first night showing me around.
But now to my real issue. I am a nervous wreck whenever it comes to approaching women. Even if it is a working chica. I never know if you need to do small talk or if you go straight to the point while approaching? I have been reading that you have to prepare a facebook list of some. What do you write to them? I made an account a week ago and started adding friends after I followed some previous facebook report from here. I then started doing this on an Instagram account which got blocked after the first five DMs I've sent. This account is blocked until Friday. I know now that you have to change the texts to not look like a bot now. Lesson learned, but still I need to prepare my list right? Is Facebook or Instagram better. The UI is better on IG and if IG works, I'd rather focus on that one.
So how do you talk to them? Do you do small talk? Do you compliment them? Or do you go straight to the point? I've tried all kinds of openers. I speak Spanish, so that's not an issue.
From saying I like your pics, I would like to meet you. Let me know if you are open for it, to Ill be in Medellin. Do you escort?
By now I've added 50 chicas. I've written to 40 of them. On Instagram, girls started following me all of a sudden. Do you take those seriously? Or are those mostly bots? Do you just talk to chicas you have added yourself to avoid or do you follow back and talk to them? I'm kind of worried of finding a scammer for some reason.
Of all the girls I've written to, 3 have responded. 1 does only Onlyfans and when I asked her if we can meet, she said plain no. The second one said she sold OF content, and she would meet me for 500 mil. I was like that is too much! I pay 150 k + taxi as I've seen in the forum.
She just said "hijupueta mas canson" which translates to something like what an obnoxious fucker and she blocked me.
The other one has not responded yet. So am I doing this right? Am I adding the wrong girls. I get confused because I want to hire them for their services but don't know If I should just say hey I want to fuck for money. Do you do that?
I do feel comfortable that I won't be going out alone the first night, but I want to have everything prepared to go out on my own afterwards. I have anxiety issues that I'm trying to face and I always get nervous when I go monger. Probably the reason I have not done it for such a long time. I'm really looking forward to change that.
Last question before I end this post. I see that everyone is amazed at centro and parque Lleras. I had a great time picking someone at Dolce Vita. Would that be something similar to what Zandaly or La Isla are in Medellin? Or is it more like Loutron?
I was also looking at spending a night at Mansion. I only have 4 days and I think I'm trying to see as much as possible not considering that I can only fuck a limited amount of time each day.
I'll happily report about everything when I get back.
Thank you in advance for all your input.
This community has been great help so far.
Cheers,
Chopari..
Condoms.
Now here is the "Pearl" I've never heard anyone repeat, told to me by a doctor a long time ago. Put a dab of lube on the inside tip of the condom before you put it on. That greatly improves heat conduction and sensation to disagree there have been times when I could not even tell I had a condom on, no kidding.?Very true, a little bit of lube inside the condom goes a long way in improving the sensation, yet to the point of not knowing your wearing a condom, well that's debatable.
Hi.
This post is not about you but what is it with guys here that feel they need to have an extensive list of FB contacts? What exactly are they trying to accomplish? I read so many here complain that they don't get responses back. Why should the FB girl respond if you are not going to physically be in Medellin anytime soon? " muy canson " meaning 'very tiring' . The girls don't want to be bothered with this. If you want a response, send a friend request with a message or just a message telling them when you will be available. If you are not going to be there anytime soon then wait. I have been going to Medellin for a good 5 years now and see mostly FB girls. Most of them I contact via messenger and they are not on my friends list. Why not? Because you don't need to this. I checked my FB periodically and trim down the number of contacts. I have 80 right now which means I should consider eliminating half of them..Thank you for clarifying it not being it about me, but since I am the one that asked all these questions I do have somewhat of an answer. I am planning my trip for next week and my understanding from everything I've read so far is to come prepared by creating a friend list and contacts for when you visit Medellin. I'm not at all social media savvy and I would rather not go through this process. I do not own a FB account and created one just in preparation for the trip. I am really bad at texting. When I'm going to a chica I'm trying to avoid rejection that I usually face.
I can understand where she is coming from by saying canson. They probably have so many people adding them and asking the same questions over and over again. My intention is not to bother her, but to know if she works and if I can have her as an option to plan my trip. My preference would be a place where you go and the process is as uncomplicated as possible. No prior preparation necessary. In a safe location. I'd rather not go through the whole Facebook process, but from what I've learned it is one of the most important aspects of trip preparation. If I didn't get this right correct me.
Hope this sheds some light on the why.
You said you don't add them as friends but contact them when you're there. If that is the way to go I'll do so. I want this whole thing to be as smooth as possible because as you might read from all of the above I am waaaaay nervous.
I also want to be able to live one of the great stories I read on this forum in real life. Adventures in MDE that you won't forget for the rest of your life. Good FB seems to be the key to do so no? Everyone seems to have an extensive FB booty call list for their trip to MDE.
Or is going to la isla and taking her out to the hotel and option?
The stars were aligned and I'm not declaring this run dead yet. I did finally buy my return ticket for 17,500 American Airlines frequent flyer miles and $68, I'm happy with that.
5th.
I got to boff my brains out with a new barely eighteen-year-old honey in El Centro who I named Bambi because she was flacca and innocent looking but she had her government cedula and she was far from innocent. She showed me a photo of her novia and he looked older than me but she did not know how old he was.
She was a personal referral from another puta who I have been tagging this trip in El Centro. I have never seen a girl with so much aquacera out of her pussy while at the same time showing absolutely no reaction on her face. She was not squirting but she was flowing.
I even got to see Catgirl and her new novia coincidentally shopping at a food market in El Centro while I was there. Ostee Out.
Kind of day that really makes me not want to leave but I'm peaking for sure and I need the the break. * Ostee Out.
LoveItHere69
10-06-21, 05:40
I posted before that there is a wide variety in I believe I recommended Trojan Gold, and I normally bring a supply from the states. But they are very expensive and might be the most expensive condom on the market I'm not sure.Years ago the most expensive condom was and probably still is a Japanese one that was the thinnest one ever made. Problem was it felt and sounded like a plastic shopping bag.
LoveItHere69
10-06-21, 05:47
These women cops were also telling girls not to stand in front of the statues, and had a bad ass attitude about them.Police running off the girl's loser boyfriends helps us get slightly better service and time from the girls. The attitude is probably because they are tired of running off the same losers several times each and every day. The statues are for the tourists to take pictures, not for anybody to hang around. For tourists and families. Seems pretty logical and fair to me.
PolloNegro
10-06-21, 09:07
On This Thursday, for a short stay, will be available Friday night after 6 pm, until about 10 pm, will be available Saturday for a tour of Parque Botero if anyone needs to know the do's and donts. If not everyone have fun, be safe, and get what you came to Medellin for, Tallman if you're around and want a beer or a girl, its on me, I owe you one or two! Pollo Negro is out!
DonCarlos1234
10-06-21, 10:01
Resurrecting memories from 2 months in Medellin (mostly) and Bogota turns out to take a few hours. LOL xyztravel? Help! But here's some photos, I hope they get posted. Mostly Seeking girls and La Isla. More later. I have been back in sex prison with bronchitis for a month now. It was worth it. I tried to post photos here. Think there were too many. Trying again. Also back in Colombia ASAP.
DonCarlos1234
10-06-21, 10:14
OK photos in smaller quantities works. Who really wants to read all this anyway? Stayed at Dann Carlton mostly in Medellin, also in Bogota but other places also. Paid around $80 +/- for 10's. Never did any 8's or lower. Spent 9 K over 2 months. Had many real travels and adventures. Could have spent less. LOL or even more. Who is counting? Met some of the nicest, most stunning women on the planet. Also made friends with them and even fellow tourists and the people living there. My opinion of cheap mongers is at an all time low. Guys be nice to these people. they are in bad shape, help em out. My opinion of Colombia, it's way too much fun but be careful.
Just reading on that report about the OF girl asking for 500 mil. I live in a local market where black girls charge $500/ HR and white girls charge $1000/ HR. As tempting as it is to convert her 500 mil to USD and call it affordable, the chances are she'll treat you worse than a cheaper and equally hot girl who has less exposure than she does.
From my personal experience, within a market, more money only gets you hotter girls and not necessarily better service. Service and hotness are often (but not always) inversely correlated, not because a girl is hot, but because a hotter girl usually gets more exposure. Average girls with a lot of exposure can command more than a hot girl with low exposure. By having an OF account, that girl probably gets offers left and right.
Even if 500 k vs 150 k means nothing to you, you're still better off looking elsewhere unless service quality is also equally meaningless. 150 k mas taxi is enough to get you very good looking girls with great service.
Mojo Bandit
10-06-21, 12:41
Hi everyone,
This is my first post here. I have been lurking around for the last two weeks in preparation for a trip to MDE next week and I am very thankful for all the input so far.
I am having some trouble and hope some of you can help me learn the strides of this great hobby.
The last time I was mongering was in 2010 in Cartagena, and I have great memories of going to la Dolce Vita and just looking at the menu and takings someone back to the hotel.
I am a nervous wreck whenever it comes to approaching women. I have been reading that you have to prepare a facebook list of some. What do you write to them?
I was also looking at spending a night at Mansion. I only have 4 days and I think I'm trying to see as much as possible not considering that I can only fuck a limited amount of time each day.
Cheers,
Chopari.Cartagena 2010 brings back very fond memories. Back when La Dolce Vida was still in Laguito and large enough to move around and not so damn loud LOL. It was also crawling with DEA boys but that sloppy stupid Secret Service agent who caused a scene put and end to those guys having any fun out in the open anyway. I also met a girl during that time period that I kept a semi pro girlfriend relationship with. I met her at what was then Elektra club. She would stay at my apartment for days and only charge me for an ST. She is married now, and naturally cut off contact with me after she got married to a Colombian who she went into the realestate development business with and they seem to be doing quite well.
With only four days I suggest you prepared with some type of orientation before you hit the ground. Below is a link that shows the list of different options SWs / Casas / Strip Clubs etc and the specially made map that shows where a lot of these places are. I suggest studying that. Medellin is so different from Cartagena because it is such a much larger city with so many different options scattered over a much larger area. One of the advantages to Cartagena is it is all compact and you can do everything now within walking distance. Albeit in 2010 when La Dolce Vita was in El Lagutio we would have to take a taxi to get to the clock tower and / or Elektra. Now even LDV is in old town so it is walking distance.
Look for my DM.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists
..... I sometimes notice them going it alone. I am not judging, I am sharing my observations. You can see for yourself on any of the growing number of youtube videos.....I have a very uneasy feeling about those youtube videos. Nothing good can come out of them. It is bad for the hobby.
My advice if you are going to be there in a week is to send the friend request but send a message using messenger and tell them that you are going to be available on your given dates and would like to meet her. I usually tell them whereabouts I will be staying as well. That should get you responses. Just don't contact them with no plans to see them as I suspect many on the board do which is why some girls don't respond or get annoyed. I certainly would be annoyed if I were them.
Thank you for clarifying it not being it about me, but since I am the one that asked all these questions I do have somewhat of an answer. I am planning my trip for next week and my understanding from everything I've read so far is to come prepared by creating a friend list and contacts for when you visit Medellin. I'm not at all social media savvy and I would rather not go through this process. I do not own a FB account and created one just in preparation for the trip. I am really bad at texting. When I'm going to a chica I'm trying to avoid rejection that I usually face.
I can understand where she is coming from by saying canson. They probably have so many people adding them and asking the same questions over and over again. My intention is not to bother her, but to know if she works and if I can have her as an option to plan my trip. My preference would be a place where you go and the process is as uncomplicated as possible. No prior preparation necessary. In a safe location. I'd rather not go through the whole Facebook process, but from what I've learned it is one of the most important aspects of trip preparation. If I didn't get this right correct me.
Hope this sheds some light on the why.
You said you don't add them as friends but contact them when you're there. If that is the way to go I'll do so. I want this whole thing to be as smooth as possible because as you might read from all of the above I am waaaaay nervous.
I also want to be able to live one of the great stories I read on this forum in real life. Adventures in MDE that you won't forget for the rest of your life. Good FB seems to be the key to do so no? Everyone seems to have an extensive FB booty call list for their trip to MDE.
Or is going to la isla and taking her out to the hotel and option?.
...I also want to be able to live one of the great stories I read on this forum in real life. Adventures in MDE that you won't forget for the rest of your life. Good FB seems to be the key to do so no? ....Would you share the report? Most reports about FB don't come close to Osteoknot, and several others. They don't use FB. I think you have to stay longer to live that experience.
You said you don't add them as friends but contact them when you're there. If that is the way to go I'll do so. I
You can do both, then develop you own method. If you are not on her friend list, your message may go to spam folder which she may not read right away.
Mr Enternational
10-06-21, 17:42
Would you share the report? Most reports about FB don't come close to Osteoknot, and several others. They don't use FB. I think you have to stay longer to live that experience.You don't necessarily have to stay longer, you just have to know how to create the experience. Most guys that read things like this will go with the expectation that they can sit back and the experience will happen to them.
An old Beavis and Butthead show comes to mind. They were watching David Letterman's talk show and seen how poppin it was. So they decided to make their own talk show. Theirs was boring as shit with the whole show being pretty much dead air. Don't have the expectation of setting it off like Osteoknot if you are not Osteoknot!
The Tall Man
10-06-21, 17:57
Thank you for clarifying it not being it about me, but since I am the one that asked all these questions I do have somewhat of an answer. I am planning my trip for next week and my understanding from everything I've read so far is to come prepared by creating a friend list and contacts for when you visit Medellin. I'm not at all social media savvy and I would rather not go through this process. I do not own a FB account and created one just in preparation for the trip. I am really bad at texting. When I'm going to a chica I'm trying to avoid rejection that I usually face.
I can understand where she is coming from by saying canson. They probably have so many people adding them and asking the same questions over and over again. My intention is not to bother her, but to know if she works and if I can have her as an option to plan my trip. My preference would be a place where you go and the process is as uncomplicated as possible. No prior preparation necessary. In a safe location. I'd rather not go through the whole Facebook process, but from what I've learned it is one of the most important aspects of trip preparation. If I didn't get this right correct me.
Hope this sheds some light on the why.IMHO as living in Medellin for 4 years now, the really truly great unforgettable experiences are never ever planned or scheduled rather they JUST develop and appear seemingly out of no where.
This is the magic of living in Colombia as I never know when my next off-the-charts magical connection will come but it does come and happens often, about once or twice a month.
So the best advice that I can give is to have little expectations and just allow the moment to appear and when it does Oh lord have mercy.
I had one of these the other night with a 22 yo paisa, off the charts.
Enjoy!
The Tall Man.
The Tall Man
10-06-21, 18:01
The stars were aligned and I'm not declaring this run dead yet. I did finally buy my return ticket for 17,500 American Airlines frequent flyer miles and $68, I'm happy with that.
5th.
I got to boff my brains out with a new barely eighteen-year-old honey in El Centro who I named Bambi because she was flacca and innocent looking but she had her government cedula and she was far from innocent. She showed me a photo of her novia and he looked older than me but she did not know how old he was.
She was a personal referral from another puta who I have been tagging this trip in El Centro. I have never seen a girl with so much aquacera out of her pussy while at the same time showing absolutely no reaction on her face. She was not squirting but she was flowing.
I even got to see Catgirl and her new novia coincidentally shopping at a food market in El Centro while I was there. Ostee Out.
Kind of day that really makes me not want to leave but I'm peaking for sure and I need the the break. Ostee Out.Got to love it when the stars align themselves.
I know most of the chicas that you show and write about, lots of fun for sure, were all basically fucking the same chicas at some point or another so "Sharing is caring" and we all care for each other.
Love it! And yes the lesbians and bi-sexual chicas need lots of dick too despite their claims otherwise.
The Tall Man.
The Tall Man
10-06-21, 18:05
Resurrecting memories from 2 months in Medellin (mostly) and Bogota turns out to take a few hours. LOL xyztravel? Help! But here's some photos, I hope they get posted. Mostly Seeking girls and La Isla. More later. I have been back in sex prison with bronchitis for a month now. It was worth it. I tried to post photos here. Think there were too many. Trying again. Also back in Colombia ASAP.
OK photos in smaller quantities works. Who really wants to read all this anyway? Stayed at Dann Carlton mostly in Medellin, also in Bogota but other places also. Paid around $80 +/- for 10's. Never did any 8's or lower. Spent 9 K over 2 months. Had many real travels and adventures. Could have spent less. LOL or even more. Who is counting? Met some of the nicest, most stunning women on the planet. Also made friends with them and even fellow tourists and the people living there. My opinion of cheap mongers is at an all time low. Guys be nice to these people. they are in bad shape, help em out. My opinion of Colombia, it's way too much fun but be careful.Yep some beauties for sure. Hope you get better but also know that in the meantime we will keep the chicas busy until your return, hehehehe.
Much love!
The Tall Man.
Mojo Bandit
10-06-21, 18:14
Add in "elevator photos" to your list of prepago tells. Also jacuzzi photos, rooftop pool photos are a dead giveaway.And especially this roogtop pool.
Is that slapshot's reflection in the mirror?
And especially this roogtop pool.
Jadoomazar
10-06-21, 20:52
Hello guys,
I am going to MDE in few weeks and wondering how do you guys approach working girls in public spots like Plaza Botero with no Spanish speaking skills? Do the girls talk in English or do I need to use a phone translator app?
JohnnyWalker55
10-06-21, 21:15
I have 4 weeks to go, but still feeling as lost as I was 4 weeks ago when I booked my flights.
Are gringos really put down so much? I can't hide the fact that I'm a gringo!
Are there gringo-friendly places / casas? I don't plan to visit El Centro, and probably not Poblado also, given what I've read. So I'm running out of ideas for places where I'm not going to be taken for a sucker.
Am I over-thinking things?No offense, you sound like a scaredy cat. And I mean this with respect, because If It is that obvious on this forum, it will be very obvious on the streets LOL.
It is not hard my friend. There are no "gringo" friendly places. It is not like a cruise port in maui where they welcome you with dancers and flowers. It is simply the streets, the best comparison I can give is that harvey keitel movie bad leuitant in the 80's nyc. Except it really isn't as dangerous as it seems. It is a working class city, just don't go out past 8-9 pm unless you cab it to clubs and youll be fine.
Again, don't over complicate things, like MR E says, it really is simple. You see a hot puta, pay her, fuck, leave.
Good luck.
Jw.
So, I'm sorry to ask, but I just can't find any info searching, and I'm getting a bad vibe.
I'm due to visit for the first time in November. I'm an obvious gringo, travelling solo, with very little Spanish (but I'm still learning daily). I'm really having second thoughts about my trip. I normally travel to Thailand where there are lots of expats to meet up with. But I'm really struggling to get together a plan from the information I can gather. Whenever someone mentions a casa or gives a recommendation (like Motel Ibiza) I'm noting it, but still I have no idea where I'm looking to visit when I arrive.
To add to that, I've been adding FB ladies and some of them are posting memes making fun of gringos. So obviously these are bad calls on my part.
I have 4 weeks to go, but still feeling as lost as I was 4 weeks ago when I booked my flights.
Are gringos really put down so much? I can't hide the fact that I'm a gringo!
Are there gringo-friendly places / casas? I don't plan to visit El Centro, and probably not Poblado also, given what I've read. So I'm running out of ideas for places where I'm not going to be taken for a sucker.
Am I over-thinking things?It has nothing to with over thinking things, but really about you, and how you've mongered in the past. I suppose you could stay at the Mansion, pay high prices, and have everything spoon fed to you, and perhaps find some comrades to hang with.
If not, you should consider going somewhere else that will be more user friendly and safer such as Sosua.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think Medellin will be suited for you. And this doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you, but it's very different than mongering in Asia.
And as far as being a gringo, well there's no getting around that, so I don't see how it even factors in to your thinking. You have no control over that, and yes, people may take advantage of you, and most of the time you may not even know it, but this goes with the territory, so you just need to accept it.
Good luck where ever you land up.
BlackThought
10-06-21, 22:53
I hope this can get you started for the first couple of days.
Day time, you can take a Uber to New Life near El Centro, see the map and list in Mojo's post. New Life has standard price, pay after and it is cheap. You don't have to take anyone, in that case, buy a drink to avoid the fee which is 4 mil when I last visited. When you are done, go to Plaza Botero for sightseeing and just observe some street actions, you don't need to participate, stay in the tourist area where you can see police. When it gets dark, you can try the strip club Conejita. This is just across the street from Plaza Botero. You can find pricing and more detail from Mojo's post. Another daytime place to go is Fantasia Energy at Laureles.
At night, you can go to La Isla. It's a high end strip club. It is more expensive but the price is fixed so you don't need to worry about scam. The striper will ask for tip after dance. I just give each 2 mil. You can grope them or interact with them. You can get 2 mil bills from the bar or the waiter can get it for you. If you see a girl you like, ask about service and take her to the room. The price should be fixed. You can pay by credit card at the bar. You can spend several hours here..This is definitely the playbook that mongers new to MDE should follow.
You don't necessarily have to stay longer, you just have to know how to create the experience. Most guys that read things like this will go with the expectation that they can sit back and the experience will happen to them....Don't have the expectation of setting it off like Osteoknot if you are not Osteoknot!Few have enough skills as a fiction writer to truly entertain. Problem is fiction is of no value in a forum such as this where practicalities are the aim. It's at best useless, at work a bum steer.
Would you share the report? Most reports about FB don't come close to Osteoknot, and several others. They don't use FB. I think you have to stay longer to live that experience..I have been seeing all the responses and DMs and am very thankful so far. I don't have particular report in my mind. Some of you sent me easy explanations for a beginner Like me. I went back in the forum and you are right, the good stories font necessarily come from FB. There are sentences on the reports about having A FB girl ready just in case though. I will be hitting the ground and probably going to check out some casa first.
I think I was way over my head trying to cover all the bases from the start. Feel better now. Also got some additional responses via FB but I will leave that for the next trip.
ID rather check out Medellin first and the fact that things are scattered. Thanks for your feedback though. Osteos reports are great and no FB.
I have been seeing all the responses and DMs and am very thankful so far.Sounds like you have very limited time. I would just stick to the casas. Thenyou have no risk of no shows and can male best use of your time. Also no need to waste time in 'chatting' with girls.
But if you do feel the need, simply tell that "quiero conocerte". They understand well enough what that means, especially if you tell them you are in town only for a few days. .
On This Thursday, for a short stay, will be available Friday night after 6 pm, until about 10 pm, will be available Saturday for a tour of Parque Botero if anyone needs to know the do's and donts. If not everyone have fun, be safe, and get what you came to Medellin for,...!I could be up for smthg this weekend. Depends how my ankle heels. Feeling better today. If it fixes tmrw, I will PM you and come thru.
FlagRunner77
10-07-21, 01:30
Just to be clear, to those saying I'm a "scaredy cat" and that Medellin is not for me (albeit you are well-intentioned), my major issue is finding information and planning. I know Medellin is nothing like other mongering places I've been to which is why I'm trying to understand as much as possible, but the information out there is largely either outdated, contradictory or non-existent.
I've decided not to cancel my trip, but I'm now accepting that I'll pretty much have to turn up and find places to visit when I'm there (which takes me out of my comfort. And enjoyment. Zone because I plan everything to the nth degree (including mongering which so far has worked out great in every other country I've visited). Recommendations for places like La Isla, New Life, etc have been noted and researched. I really appreciate those recommendations.
And I have some good FB potentials now, thanks to lots of helpful DMs.
Who knows. MDE may just turn out to be awesome exactly because it takes me out of my comfort zone and is completely contrary to how I plan mongering trips! Haha.
Thanks all for the advice and responses. I've accepted the situation for what it is and will largely just roll with the punches (hopefully not literally) when I arrive.
Trip report to follow.
As you can tell from my number of posts I'm pretty new down here in South America. To the one monger that's even newer than me don't worry too much. Sure it can get confusing at times and nothing will be perfect but if you've been mongering in the US you'll understand that you've landed in a gold mine, and I haven't even been in Medellin yet. Use the hotel safe for your documents, don't wear any jewelry, don't carry huge wads of cash that bulge out from your pockets. Spending money on a learning experience will be far cheaper than in the US and still better than many of your best times on the far side of your hometown hoping you don't get busted by a sting.
On the other hand my boss has finally realized that it would be better to have a hotel in downtown Medellin rather than Rionegro. That's great for spreading some pitch around a new city for me. (Get it? Pinetree. Pitch?) I hope our new hotel in Poblado doesn't mind the odd chica stopping in for an hour or so. I love Bogota and hope Medellin competes well.
Is there a big drop off during the holidays? I have read that lots of the girls like to visit family.
If anyone has been or have knowledge on the topic I would be very grateful to hear your feedback.
Just reading on that report about the OF girl asking for 500 mil. I live in a local market where black girls charge $500/ HR and white girls charge $1000/ HR. As tempting as it is to convert her 500 mil to USD and call it affordable, the chances are she'll treat you worse than a cheaper and equally hot girl who has less exposure than she does.
From my personal experience, within a market, more money only gets you hotter girls and not necessarily better service. Service and hotness are often (but not always) inversely correlated, not because a girl is hot, but because a hotter girl usually gets more exposure. Average girls with a lot of exposure can command more than a hot girl with low exposure. By having an OF account, that girl probably gets offers left and right.
Even if 500 k vs 150 k means nothing to you, you're still better off looking elsewhere unless service quality is also equally meaningless. 150 k mas taxi is enough to get you very good looking girls with great service.I agree, but the girls that I choose to fuck don't charge 150 k mas taxi. They charge 300-350 k mas taxi. No matter how hard I negotiate. I would be happy to pay less, but they won't budge. Sometimes the service is good, sometimes it is shitty, you never know. But the girls that charge 150 k mas taxi are not attractive enough for me to even consider giving them a chance. And if you ask me, what is better, a 6 providing great service and a 9 providing shitty service, I would say I would rather jerk off or will keep looking for a better opportunity.
FlowState985
10-07-21, 07:02
Hello guys,
I am going to MDE in few weeks and wondering how do you guys approach working girls in public spots like Plaza Botero with no Spanish speaking skills? Do the girls talk in English or do I need to use a phone translator app?They don't speak English. You have to either use translator or get out a notepad. LoveItHere likes do use paper and pen, he prewrites down phrases to ask for price, age, time, and what he wants the girl to do. You can do the same if you're not comfortable of pulling out cellphone and use translator.
GeneHickman
10-07-21, 07:52
And especially this roogtop pool.Mojo you are past your email capacity. FYI.
I agree, but the girls that I choose to fuck don't charge 150 k mas taxi. They charge 300-350 k mas taxi. No matter how hard I negotiate. I would be happy to pay less, but they won't budge.I PM'd you but I got my answer from your previous posts. You're in the SA market which is different from FB. SA is more convenient for the buyer (every girl is prefiltered for accepting money for sex), and self-selection makes it so that the the blandest girls know they're not going to succeed on SA. SA also prefilters for guys who can at least pay the membership fee. These two things means that SA is always going to be more expensive than FB on average. In terms of chica hotness, my personal view is that the top of SA is the same as the top of FB but there's a greater number of 8+ on SA for sure. Building an FB roster of just 8+ takes way more work and depends on FB giving you good suggestions.
Mojo Bandit
10-07-21, 14:49
Mojo you are past your email capacity. FYI.Thank you for the heads up. I cleared it now.
I agree, but the girls that I choose to fuck don't charge 150 k mas taxi. They charge 300-350 k mas taxi. No matter how hard I negotiate. I would be happy to pay less, but they won't budge. Sometimes the service is good, sometimes it is shitty, you never know. But the girls that charge 150 k mas taxi are not attractive enough for me to even consider giving them a chance. And if you ask me, what is better, a 6 providing great service and a 9 providing shitty service, I would say I would rather jerk off or will keep looking for a better opportunity.Well said MiamiBoy. I feel the same way as you do. I am not going to travel all the way to Medellin to bang a 6, no matter how good the service is. I can get that easily in Tijuana for a reasonable price. I want to pay only for eye candy, I. E. 7 and above. Many folks state that one tends to get shitty service from a hottie. That is true, however, that can easily be fixed with appropriate tips. That has not failed me so far. The few times that has not worked, the girl became history.
Triple Darknes
10-07-21, 15:37
Just to be clear, to those saying I'm a "scaredy cat" and that Medellin is not for me (albeit you are well-intentioned), my major issue is finding information and planning. I know Medellin is nothing like other mongering places I've been to which is why I'm trying to understand as much as possible, but the information out there is largely either outdated, contradictory or non-existent.
I've decided not to cancel my trip, but I'm now accepting that I'll pretty much have to turn up and find places to visit when I'm there (which takes me out of my comfort. And enjoyment. Zone because I plan everything to the nth degree (including mongering which so far has worked out great in every other country I've visited). Recommendations for places like La Isla, New Life, etc have been noted and researched. I really appreciate those recommendations.
And I have some good FB potentials now, thanks to lots of helpful DMs.
Who knows. MDE may just turn out to be awesome exactly because it takes me out of my comfort zone and is completely contrary to how I plan mongering trips! Haha.
Thanks all for the advice and responses. I've accepted the situation for what it is and will largely just roll with the punches (hopefully not literally) when I arrive.
Trip report to follow.I also use the Military Decision Making Process and the OODA loop to make decisions in my personal life.
And based on information I received I avoided Medellin for a long ass time. Getting Boots on Ground I can understand why it's a popular destination.
Being in Medellin is almost like being in the states in certain areas Compared to Cali there's more money flowing through here and more things to do.
At the end of the day it's hard for someone to really tell you the information that you want to hear because they don't know what you care about.
I have a buddy planning a trip and even though I'm a fan of Cali I told him that Meddy is more "lit" he's leaning toward Cali because of the abundance of cheap casas.
I'm more of a freelance / semipro / non pro fan I've gotten "the look" in Laureles and in Santa Fe Mall from "nonpros".
Hope this helps.
Trip.
Just to be clear, to those saying I'm a "scaredy cat" and that Medellin is not for me (albeit you are well-intentioned), my major issue is finding information and planning. I know Medellin is nothing like other mongering places I've been to which is why I'm trying to understand as much as possible, but the information out there is largely either outdated, contradictory or non-existent..I guess I am perplexed by what I am reading. If someone where to go back say three months in time on this thread and start reading the reports they would know just about every thing you would need to now from where to stay, how to get to your lodging, where to get tested prior to departure, where to find girls, how much they cost, where to eat, safety precautions to take, how to get around the City, and all kinds of other valuable information.
There has been more activity on this board then ever before, and albeit some of the information may sound contradictory at times, a lot of it is correct. F your not coming for a long period of time, I would suggest you stay at the Mansion for a first timer.
Medellin can be like a maze of mongering venues compared to other mongering destinations, with the biggest obstacle compared to Asia which seems to be your experience base, will be a language issue. More and more of the newbie Colombian mongers as evidenced in their reports struggle with this.
I'm glad to hear your not pulling the plug on coming here, although I suggested you not to.
With that being said, and if you haven't gone back three months on this thread, and I know there's probably at least a couple of thousand posts, you should find all the information you need.
I'm sure your posts as a newbie first timer Colombian monger will be interesting and / or amusing to say the least.
Mojo Bandit
10-07-21, 19:16
I am also planning my first trip to MDE in few weeks. I plan to stay in Parque Lleras, hotel Du Parc. I know its a little expensive but I want to be near the action. I do not want to spend too much time traveling. I am working on lining up some SA chicks who will come to me. Would you agree that this is a good start for my first trip and get familiar with the things?
Thanks for your input in advance.
JM.Hotel Du parc caught my eye on a trip to Medellin a few years ago and I actually took a chica to dinner there one night. The food was decent and I was impressed by the overall look of the lobby etc. To me its got that old school kind of charm but if you look at the building as a whole it looks modern. Did you look into the visitor policy to see if they allow or charge extra to bring chicas in? Below are some photos I took that night.
Hotel Du parc caught my eye on a trip to Medellin a few years ago and I actually took a chica to dinner there one night. The food was decent and I was impressed by the overall look of the lobby etc. To me its got that old school kind of charm but if you look at the building as a whole it looks modern. Did you look into the visitor policy to see if they allow or charge extra to bring chicas in? Below are some photos I took that night.Nice place, I've stayed now a few times very girl friendly (1 a day) I think with no charge if booking directly through hotel room for 2 , if book through 3 Road party they charge you a girl fee, I recommend the balcony rooms very nice! Hope this helps, the location is amazing if spending time in the park! Have fun! PM me if needed I think I have direct number to whattapp hotel reservation manger!
Mojo Bandit
10-07-21, 19:30
Here are links to the Medellin list and the Medellin map. I recently bumped links to both to the top of each of the blog threads "Medellin List" and "Medellin Map and List". I want to once again give a shout out of gratitude to WorldTravel69 for supplying these and the work he put into them. For the new people who are conemplating a visit to Medellin and have not studied the forum well enough to find these in the blog section of the Colombia forum. These can be very good tools in the right hands. New people should especially find them useful. Also I make use of the "search thread" tool found in the gray shaded area above where the posts start in the thread just below the page numbers. For example if I see something on the list or the map and I want to know if a BM has mentioned it in a report I will try searching it in the thread.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists
Mr Enternational
10-07-21, 20:29
Many folks state that one tends to get shitty service from a hottie. That is true, however, that can easily be fixed with appropriate tips. That has not failed me so far. The few times that has not worked, the girl became history.So you pay one price to get her to do her job, then you pay a higher price to get her to do her job right? Good thing no other industry is like this.
Elvis 2008
10-07-21, 21:07
Hotel Du parc caught my eye on a trip to Medellin a few years ago and I actually took a chica to dinner there one night. The food was decent and I was impressed by the overall look of the lobby etc. To me its got that old school kind of charm but if you look at the building as a whole it looks modern. Did you look into the visitor policy to see if they allow or charge extra to bring chicas in? Below are some photos I took that night.It sucks for visitors. I bought my GF there and they wanted 2 forms of ID just for her. Hotel Dan Carlton and Marriott beat Du Parc on food and pool / jacuzzi. The service there is top notch, and the architecture is impressive so if you are trying to impress a girl who is into that, have at it, but it is not a good monger hotel.
Jadoomazar
10-07-21, 21:13
Hotel Du parc caught my eye on a trip to Medellin a few years ago and I actually took a chica to dinner there one night. The food was decent and I was impressed by the overall look of the lobby etc. To me its got that old school kind of charm but if you look at the building as a whole it looks modern. Did you look into the visitor policy to see if they allow or charge extra to bring chicas in? Below are some photos I took that night.Nice! I chatted with the hotel staff on whatsapp and they said only 1 guest allowed per day at no charge. If I bring 1 chica in morning and 2nd chica in evening then the 2nd chica is extra charge of 130 k Colombian pesos.
Nice hotel have stayed several times guest policy is in place need cedula to get her in but I think it is like 100 k if they stop you at the elevators.
Hotel Du parc caught my eye on a trip to Medellin a few years ago and I actually took a chica to dinner there one night. The food was decent and I was impressed by the overall look of the lobby etc. To me its got that old school kind of charm but if you look at the building as a whole it looks modern. Did you look into the visitor policy to see if they allow or charge extra to bring chicas in? Below are some photos I took that night.
BlackThought
10-07-21, 22:38
I have been seeing all the responses and DMs and am very thankful so far. I don't have particular report in my mind. Some of you sent me easy explanations for a beginner Like me. I went back in the forum and you are right, the good stories font necessarily come from FB. There are sentences on the reports about having A FB girl ready just in case though. I will be hitting the ground and probably going to check out some casa first.
I think I was way over my head trying to cover all the bases from the start. Feel better now. Also got some additional responses via FB but I will leave that for the next trip.
ID rather check out Medellin first and the fact that things are scattered. Thanks for your feedback though. Osteos reports are great and no FB.Ostee spends months out of the year in MDE. He also invests a lot of time / money in his selection of chicas to build that GFE. If you're limited on time, just stick with the casas or street action (el centro or parque Lleras depending on your budget).
BlackThought
10-07-21, 22:46
Well said MiamiBoy. I feel the same way as you do. I am not going to travel all the way to Medellin to bang a 6, no matter how good the service is. I can get that easily in Tijuana for a reasonable price. I want to pay only for eye candy, I. E. 7 and above. Many folks state that one tends to get shitty service from a hottie. That is true, however, that can easily be fixed with appropriate tips. That has not failed me so far. The few times that has not worked, the girl became history.I operate the same way, I don't feel like it's worth paying to bang a 6, also a waste of a nut. I do short trips, so each nut has to be with a 7+, yes it's true that the hotter ones tend to provide worse service, but the looks makes up for it in a sense.
BlackThought
10-07-21, 22:48
So you pay one price to get her to do her job, then you pay a higher price to get her to do her job right? Good thing no other industry is like this.I think he utilizes money to motivate higher performance, similar to how managers dangle bonuses / bonus multipliers if an employee performs at a higher level. Money talks.
I definitely work harder at work if it means bigger bonuses / RSUs.
So you pay one price to get her to do her job, then you pay a higher price to get her to do her job right? Good thing no other industry is like this.You mean I've been busting my ass all these years for nothing?
It sucks for visitors. I bought my GF there and they wanted 2 forms of ID just for her. Hotel Dan Carlton and Marriott beat Du Parc on food and pool / jacuzzi. The service there is top notch, and the architecture is impressive so if you are trying to impress a girl who is into that, have at it, but it is not a good monger hotel.Zero jam ups for guests! When's last time you stayed their, 1st free with zero zero jam up! Excellent staff.
NapataJohn
10-08-21, 01:58
https://www.motelibiza.com/
Disfruta.
LoveItHere69
10-08-21, 03:37
They don't speak English. You have to either use translator or get out a notepad. LoveItHere likes do use paper and pen, he prewrites down phrases to ask for price, age, time, and what he wants the girl to do. You can do the same if you're not comfortable of pulling out cellphone and use translator.OMG! How do you know that? Did I mistakenly ask you to go to my hotel? My bad. Wait. That would be impossible, nobody turns me down. Haha.
Close. I have a picture of two stick figures screwing. I show the girl the picture. Then drop to my knees and put my hands together to pray. A few crocodile tears start flowing and I point to a hotel. That is my signature move.
No need to list time because it is always 30 minutes. If you want longer then yes you should write that down like you if normally take 30+ minutes and pay the hotel for the longer time so they do not bang on your door. If I take longer than normal I just say "propina" (tip). I also go to the hotels that do not bang on the door at the 20 minute point. Go to same place that gets to know you and 40 minutes is fine with no additional costs.
Do not write a long laundry list of what you want. It will confuse them and they will walk away, they will also think you will be very demanding / bossy in the room which is no fun so they will walk away. I am not demanding. I pretty much want my 3 positions and normally have no problems. I used to say "perrita" meaning doggy but that confused them. You have to say "cuatro" meaning four. If there are certain services you must have then write it down or use the translator especially concerning sucking your manhood. But as always and everywhere there are some girls that will say yes yes yes but in the room say no no no.
Have not seen a theft in a long time. You are pretty safe in the statue and church area. The bar area behind the museum is not. I usually get the price point and pay after agreed to first. If the girl is new to me or a slight vibe I will verify a few things in the hotel staircase before going up and paying the receptionist.
I guess I am perplexed by what I am reading....You are not alone. LOL. I just went with WT69's list in my first visit. Checked out everywhere and stayed with what I liked. I think some of the newbies are looking for something more.
LoveItHere69
10-08-21, 03:44
The second brand, Tulip, surprisingly are the ones they hand out free at the Hotel Real Botero, not coincidentally the closest hotel to the same pharmacy and to the front door of the Vera Cruz church. I feel certain both brands are readily available.I can do better. The few chain drug stores I checked in the past do not carry Tulip brand. Maybe at a mom and pop drug store.
On the side of the Veracruz church are 2 dollar store type stores. They sell Tulip condoms 3 for 1 mil which is basically 11 condoms for one USA Dollar, or 9 cents each.
In the first store it is across from the cash register on the wall at chest level.
The second store has them at the cash register and can be hard to see.
The condom packages say apple, cherry, chocolate. BS. No smell. Just plain condoms. I have not seen any out of date or expired.
Do not get the other brands. They are horrible. If in doubt open the package slowly and look inside.
LoveItHere69
10-08-21, 04:08
Botero Real has had police sit up in the office area for hours on at least 4 days I have noticed this past week. I asked two girls working there why the police are there and they both replied that there have been problems. I stayed there for 2. 5 months and I am in there a lot so they know me so believe I what they said since I also asked each of them separately.
Today I went to Botero Real and a gringo and chica were arguing. She did not fulfill the promised service is best I could make out of it. They part ways and 10 minutes later they are back with 3 police officers. Not sure what came of it but all left in under 10 minutes.
Stupid foreigner who speaks Spanish, who at the very most offered 100 mil ($27) for an hour or special services. So at worst he lost $27. That is not worth getting the police involved. All the girls outside the hotel and all her friends now know he is toxic. He is easy to spot and remember because he uses a cane. She is now angry, embarrassed, and may be more shy around taking foreigners now. I had been with the girl twice and she was good. I should have got involved but I had no idea the level of his stupidity to actually get the police.
I could easily give Botero tours to guys but if I give a tour and any introductions are made then the girls who know me will think the guy if ok. Then if he screws up like this guy did then the girls may get mad at me for indirectly promoting the guy. This guy may have caused problems for a Board member here who I could have sworn I saw together last week. I will contact the Board member and maybe he will post what happened.
So you pay one price to get her to do her job, then you pay a higher price to get her to do her job right? Good thing no other industry is like this.A good job should be a requirement to keep your job. That's the "incentive. " Dangling tips in front of them to stop playing the dead fish is ridiculous and emasculating.
There also aren't any 9's and 10's selling it in Medellin, in spite of what you read here. If you want to see these look for the Ron Medellin advertising girls and the like or go to a soccer match. Loutron, Seeking, all that nonsense is enhanced and displayed in favorable lighting. Plus the lifestyle itself shaves off points as it isn't conducive to beauty.
I operate the same way, I don't feel like it's worth paying to bang a 6, also a waste of a nut. I do short trips, so each nut has to be with a 7+, yes it's true that the hotter ones tend to provide worse service, but the looks makes up for it in a sense.
Well said MiamiBoy. I feel the same way as you do. I am not going to travel all the way to Medellin to bang a 6, no matter how good the service is. I can get that easily in Tijuana for a reasonable price. I want to pay only for eye candy, I. E. 7 and above. Many folks state that one tends to get shitty service from a hottie. That is true, however, that can easily be fixed with appropriate tips. That has not failed me so far. The few times that has not worked, the girl became history.To be clear, no one is saying you should fuck average looking girls. If your bar is a 7, by all means fuck 7's and above. What I said still holds true though. If you're not finding 7's, 8's, and the occasional 9 for 150-200, you're probably on SA, in Lleras, in Gustos, on escort sites, the high end clubs, or god forbid OF. You're just not putting in the work that FB requires. You're paying for convenience because where you're looking, every other horny dude with money is also looking. I personally think filtering girls on FB is not hard, and also sometimes fun since you see their personal pictures and get to know them a little before deciding to message them. But if for some reason you don't want to put in the work, you're ok with paying more for the same thing, and you're ok with increasing your chances of getting bad service, then by all means do what you want to do.
I just completed my first trip to Medellin, 09/30 - 10/07, and it was a complete 10/10 out-of-the-park experience. A little about myself, I'm a 61 years young stud that will compete with many 30 and 40 years old in the business world, sports, and overall life. Single and financially secure that will not argue with a Colombiana about 50 K pesos. Life and time are more precious than that. I have been mongering for over 30 years, Tijuana, Costa Rica, Peru, Europe. I speak, read and write fluent Spanish. I was a significant contributor with CRT and have not posted any reports or comments here in ISG. I lost some of the writing drives, but I'm using this as a debrief, therapy outlet for a great trip with this new trip. Hopefully, this helps others as it helps debrief me.
If you are new to our sport and traveling to Medellin, stay at Hotel M, La Mansion. You will be taken care of and spoon-fed until you say, "No mas". Yes, the place could use some repairs and changes, but the proximity to some of the guy's experiences and knowledge will outweigh any issues. The staff is excellent, and the front office was always willing to help at M1. I heard about some problems at M2, but I cannot report what I did not experience. For breakfast, I had about a 100 years of mongering experience surrounding me, BS-ing and answering any questions I had. Also, you can find Casas and club wingman ready to assist. Even with my experience and communicating with the chicas, I benefited greatly by staying there. It played to my style of mongering more than the FB or Tinder approach that others are using. You can always use both, YMMV.
9/30.
Arrive at Hotel M at about 4 PM. The room is shit, 104, but I already see multiple girls by the pool. I want to order some water, Red Bulls, and items for my fridge, so the front office recommended Rappi. It never worked on my Fold 3, but I went to the pool had one of the girls orders for me. The bill was 76 K col gave the girl 100 K, and she brought it to my room and, of course, let her keep the change. I tried taking a nap before starting my hunt, but I could not sleep, I took a shower, and by 7 PM, I went by the pool, and it was empty, no girls. The club next door is open, so there I go.
Here is when I met the best wingman ever as well as the best tour guide. I have had the same wingman experiences in Tijuana and CR but not at this level of comfort and participation. So at 7 PM, the club is dead, only one girl, a tall cutie, sports body, great tetas, like a 7-8, but that is it. Crap, I guess ill wait and see what comes in. I invited the girl for a drink to pass the time, and that is where it got interesting. She is very well-spoken, in Spanish, but when I told Vanessa that it was my first trip, she volunteered to be my wingman and show me around Medellin. So we continue talking for another couple of hours. I checked the new girls coming in, but Vanessa is clicking all the right vibes, and she looks good. I got her number, and I told her that I would like to take her to my room. No money talk, no positions requested, or what I wanted to do. We were dealing at a different level. Three hours later, with multiple pops and no holes barred, I concluded that she would be a great wingman. So we planned for Vanessa to come back at 10 AM to start her tour guide. She took a taxi home, and I went back to the club, but there was nothing of interest, there were girls, but I already had popped my cherry.
10/1.
Ate breakfast surrounded by at least 100 years of mongering experiences. I ask some questions, and by 9:45 AM, Vanessa is already at my door. Damm, she looks good, but this is my "civilian" portion of my trip. We headed to Comuna 13 ate some snacks as she guided me through it. I took some great pictures of her and the city, and at about 2 PM, we headed for Pueblito Paisa. She knows of a great kiosk with sancocho, and the place has a great vibe of a more modern park.
She has some family obligations that night, and we decided we would meet the next day at 10 AM to continue the tour. I paid her for her time.
I took one of the guy's breakfast club invites for La Isla and Calle Lleras later in the evening, and we met at the club downstairs at 9 PM. While I'm there, I encounter this cutie, a bit tiny, almost a dwarf but cute and lovely body. I got her number and put her on my to-do list.
So talk about eye candy; La Isla is a pussy Disneyland. I'm not into Casas or strip joints, but I could not get a number at La Isla, so after we went to Calle Lleras, and is poping. Lots of street action had a couple of drinks but not my vibe, so we headed back to the Hole M club.
I got there, but Laura, the dwarf, was not there. I sent her a message on Whatsapp, and she replied that she was at the Hotel and would see me later at the bar. It is what it is. It is not like we are dealing with virgins. Funny because I found out one of the Mansion veterans is now my Skimo brother the following day. I session with Laura, I can scratch dwarf from my checklist of the type of girls I want to do.
10/2.
Vanessa is right on time, the perfect dress, and I want to taste, but I remind myself, this is the civilian portion of my trip. So we are headed to Parque Arvi. I had a coffee and pan, and we started taking the tour. No need to pay for another tour guide from the park, Vanessa got it down to a science. We have mondongo at the bottom of the hill corner restaurant for a late lunch—great price and food. We took the metro cable from on top and what a great view and the train back to the Hotel. Her using her phone app to negotiate taxis, taking the train, and going to non-gringos restaurants is making up for her tour guide costs, not including the white glove service from her.
I mentioned that I wanted to do a threesome with her before I left, and she said that she has a great friend and is ready to come that night. I'm like "touchdown" and bring her in. So the plan is for Vanessa to come back at 7 PM, her friend will meet us at the restaurant, and if I like what I see, we will make it happen. Vanessa had already shown me pictures of her, and I was already sold but was not ready for what follows.
Vanessa again shows up early, about 6:30 PM, and we head to the restaurant Andres Caunere down the block from the Hotel. It does not open until 7 PM, and there is some celebration going on. We go to the Mall across the street and have a coffee until 7:15, and her friend is already waiting for us at the restaurant. Holy cow, her friend Lisset is a 12 on a 1-10 scale. Great food, music, drinks, and atmosphere, and we are headed to the Hotel. The only way to describe the threesome is porn style with condom switching. Girls are kissing and playing with themselves and each other. While I'm riding one, the other is assisting. It was kind of mind-blowing. But the best part was me doing Lisset anally while she was eating Vanessa, and Vanessa has this showering orgasm; about a liter of fluid comes out of Vanessa's and hits Lisset in the face, and I'm coming on her ass. Mind-blown. If I die and finish the trip at this point, I should be good. But little me did not know what awaited him.
10/3.
Moving to 102, better room. As planned for the day, Vanessa showed up at 1 PM to take me to the Monterrey Mall; it was a shopping day for me. She looks good, and I have been thinking of the threesome and how she orgasm, so fuck civilian rules, I session with her before heading out. I have a side gig of mining, and that's where all related technical business resides. I was able to get ten new leads for the business, and if even one of them pans out, this trip will be paid all for itself. We have a late lunch there, and then we head out to El Centro. It is just a big flea market, but it is the experience and the company that counts. We get back to the Hotel, we shower and your typical shower sex, and finish in bed. We were so tired; the plan was to take a nap and then go out for dinner. We woke up at 11:30 PM, fuck, we are hungry, but everything is close. She is the best wingman, and she comes up with Provencial near Parque Lleras. Great food, drinks. It even starts raining, and they have a collapsible roof that covers up on the balcony. We go back to the Hotel, session and she decides to stay the night. Morning is going to be glorious. There is nothing better than getting up with hardwood and having a willing partner next to you.
10/4.
Vanessa leaves by 11 AM. It is a working day for me. I am working remotely for the next three days. Work is just a couple of meetings I could not cancel and answering some emails. Usually, I'm done by noon at home, but I'm motivated here and now. Done early, talked to the girls at the pool, went shopping around the Hotel. Vanessa arrives by 7 PM; we stay in bed the rest of the night. Netflix and chill. I mentioned that 10/5 is my birthday, and I would like to have a threesome again. My birthday is not for another six months, but everyday mongering is my birthday So I told her that Lisset would be fine, but since it was my birthday, I would like to know if any of her friends are Venezuelan. I have never had one from Venezuela. Vanessa said she would surprise me.
10/5.
Vanessa stayed the night. She took care of morning wood, and we headed out to Parmessazno down the block for breakfast. Very tasty and good service. Vanessa leaves to plan my "birthday". I decided to get a haircut and a shave by the Mall across the street. Got a full facial massage and straight razor shave. Every man should treat himself to it once in a while.
I worked remotely and tried to chill and relax but almost had to rub out of excitement remembering the previous threesome and the one coming. I almost did rub one out, but I do not want to waste Leche with many willing to take it.
Vanessa arrives at about 6 PM, and we wait for her friend to arrive at the Hotel by 6:30 PM. Fuck me again, a solid ten, and to make it worse, my perfect type of woman for me, curvy, culona, and tetona. So we headed out to NacionSushi, good food, drinks, and just looking at the beauties in from of me. We come back to the Hotel, and the girls tell me to give them about 20 minutes to get the room ready for me. I go to the Hotel club to have a drink and about 25 minutes later I knock on the door. Holy crap, two beauties on full lingerie, top of the bed with a big happy birthday sign, balloons, and a little cake. I was about to pop my load right where I was standing. After the initial shock and some deep breathing exercises, it is time to rumble. BTW, I got permission from the girls to videotape the whole session.
Did I mention that Brigit is a licensed massagist too? She almost makes me come just massaging my feet. In this threesome, they were no girl-to-girl action, but both were continuously kissing me, blowing me, riding me cowgirl. It is my birthday After about 3+ hours, we are finished, and Brigit heads home. Vanessa spends the night. This is the 3rd night she has spent the night without me even asking, requesting, or paying for the whole night.
10/6.
We woke up late, around 11 AM, and Vanessa took care of the morning wood. Just thinking of the last threesome makes me comes with Vanessa at the shower. We head out to Parmezano again, but it is too late for breakfast and lunch it is. Big lunch and then we went to Dislicolores. I like to take a few bottles of aguastiendes to my brother in the US. Vanessa leaves to prepare for the evening; she promises it will be memorable since it is my last night. At the Hotel, I tried to work but is not happening, and I tried to take a nap, nope. I already slept late and was too excited for tonight. I went by the pool with all the girls, and many of the guys were there too. We exchanged war stories and passed the time. By 7 PM, Vanessa showed up; she was deck out, classical look with a dress skirt but short and open to the side to make it the sexiest being on this earth. It took some effort not to be a pig and ravage her right there and then.
When out to Andres Caunere for some octopus, excellent choice. Light enough, we had a big lunch, but sufficient to fill you up.
At the Hotel, as she is taking her clothes off, she has full legs lingerie stockings. I noticed it, but I thought they were regular stockings. And to finish the night, she will swallow the load. I had been finishing on her tits, but now I have permission for a full swallow. I didn't think I had it for multiple pops. But when you are encourage like that. It happens.
10/7.
Took an early flight to Chicago, layover at Miami. And like the Terminator said, "I will be back".
MixedSalad07
10-08-21, 14:50
Laura is fantastic! She's my go to day time girl. She does tours, can give massage, speaks excellent english.Will send a DM to request her number. If anyone else has any contacts they feel like sharing, please hit my DM.
Just Incognito
10-08-21, 17:14
Laura is fantastic! She's my go to day time girl. She does tours, can give massage, speaks excellent english.The only Laura Bustamante that comes up for me in Medellin is from Bello, looks kinda chunky / fat and has an unsightly birthmark on her face. Hard to imagine this is the girl I have heard people raving about.
Makes me curious. Is it a case of YMMV and we all like different things or is there another chica with this name and I can't find the good one?
LOL.
The only Laura Bustamante that comes up for me in Medellin is from Bello, looks kinda chunky / fat and has an unsightly birthmark on her face. Hard to imagine this is the girl I have heard people raving about.
Makes me curious. Is it a case of YMMV and we all like different things or is there another chica with this name and I can't find the good one?
LOL.https://www.facebook.com/pucca.bustamante
There's so many individualities, idiosyncrasies, intangibles and variables among mongers that I believe it would be very difficult to create a "template" for success, beyond the broad strokes.
When I present my situation it is simply another example from which you can steal bits and pieces, if you want. We all do our own "Rip Off and Duplicate" from other monger's experiences.
I try to "Keep it Real" and I assure you that ninety percent of what I write down is as true as I can make it. The only reason I don't say 100% is I believe it is impossible to be 100% unbiased and realistic about your own experiences.
We all experience life thru our own sets of biases, beliefs, familial background, cultures, mores and filters. When one monger's experiences seem so far out of touch or Out Of Reach to what another Monger has ever been through then the first Monger will default to assign the other guy's mongering activities to Fantasy or fiction when in fact, he just can't believe what he is reading because nothing's close has ever happened to himself. This is an example of possibly the two most common defense mechanisms people utilize which is denial and projection.
But I digress. You can rest assured what you read from me, is real. I think most people can distinguish The Ring Of Truth from otherwise so this probably is not even an issue worth mentioning, except I already did.
My hope would be that those who cannot tell the difference between the Ring Of Truth and fiction broaden their own experiences and Horizons such that they can, if they want to. If they are happy where they are then that's just as well but it would be better if they did not project their own biases into other mongers experiences, which is misinformation itself. In other words the person accusing others of misinformation is actually the one purporting the misinformation himself. What a great and amusing irony!
I met a fantastic new girl and had her over to my hotel room and she did not disappoint, photos coming soon.
Mr Enternational
10-08-21, 17:59
The only Laura Bustamante that comes up for me in Medellin is from Bello, looks kinda chunky / fat and has an unsightly birthmark on her face. Hard to imagine this is the girl I have heard people raving about.
Makes me curious. Is it a case of YMMV and we all like different things or is there another chica with this name and I can't find the good one?
LOL.I would think it was this one since we have 2 friends in common that are mongers who go to Medellin often.
To be clear, no one is saying you should fuck average looking girls. If your bar is a 7, by all means fuck 7's and above. What I said still holds true though. If you're not finding 7's, 8's, and the occasional 9 for 150-200, you're probably on SA, in Lleras, in Gustos, on escort sites, the high end clubs, or god forbid OF. You're just not putting in the work that FB requires. You're paying for convenience because where you're looking, every other horny dude with money is also looking. I personally think filtering girls on FB is not hard, and also sometimes fun since you see their personal pictures and get to know them a little before deciding to message them. But if for some reason you don't want to put in the work, you're ok with paying more for the same thing, and you're ok with increasing your chances of getting bad service, then by all means do what you want to do.I'll be honest, I have never tried FB, because I already have 2 accounts, one personal and one business, and creating a 3rd one for mongering purposes is not appealing to me. Maybe I will give it a try someday. But I have tried Tinder, Bumble, Colombian Cupid, SA, Lleras, casas, strip clubs, you name it. And from my experience, 150-200 mil girls are not up to my standards (I wish they were). I have yet to find an 8 or 9 in this price range. But hey, even SA or Tinder require a shit ton of work. Literally hours a day. If you say FB is even more complicated, my respect to those who are patient enough to make it work.
My understanding / explanation is simple. If the girl is objectively hot and is in high demand, sooner or later she will find her way to migrate to locations or platforms where she could earn the most. SA, Gustos, etc. You may consider yourself lucky if you find one who is new to the business, or just moved to town, or just still searching for the right place to sell her pussy. I'm not saying it is impossible, but when you are in MDE for a short period of time, your chances are slim. I spent 2 months in MDE this summer and haven't found any good looking ones under 200 mil.
The only Laura Bustamante
Yeah she's a mansion girl. Never went w her because I thought she was bit ugly and out of shape (to be kind).
Litmus Smut
10-08-21, 20:43
There's been a lot of mention about the Mansion. I've heard about it on YouTube and read about it here. Searches on Duckduckgo give poor results and Google does the same.
First question, the Mansion and Loutron are one and the same?
Searches give an address in the south eastern hills, but I've seen a couple phone numbers for the place. For all the mention of booking a stay there, how does one do it?
Phone in a reservation? If so, what is THE number? And is it WhatsApp friendly?
Make one online? If so, what is the site?
Thanks much in advance.
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