Medellin Reports

[WaltoDerri]

Greetings fellas,

I just wanted to contribute to warn others about these 3 time wasters. One is cute but pulls the oh I'm so poor I can't afford this or that sob story to ask for money with zero intent on meeting.

Goes by Maria.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bd329637-639c-40c7-8167-24c7eee32f50

Sami is a catfish. Much uglier in person. Mood swings. Awful breath. Terrible manners. Clingy. Avoid.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9d5d476e-005c-47c5-8f9a-bb9f2a980fcc

And the third, Franccesca, already blocked me on everything but I found her tik tok and IG. PM if you have more intel on her. Seems to run deposit scams all over the country to fund her lavish lifestyle. Wanted me to fly her out to MDE from Cartagena. I thought I outsmarted her booking everything myself but when I was firm on not sending anything she ghosted lmao. Pulls the old oh my dog, mom, relative is sick I need money blah blah blah.

[Nounce]

I really don't see much of a difference in Parque Lleras girls vs Botero girls.

Maybe a few select babes, but the majority are of similar quality.Similar observation, and the few that can go both ways. I give the edge to Botero but if only you know what you are doing.

Could not work out a service agreement with this one. LOL

[MoonShot]

Similar observation, and the few that can go both ways. I give the edge to Botero but if only you know what you are doing.

Could not work out a service agreement with this one. LOLI personally disagree. You get the worst of the worst in El Centro and there might be a gem or two but you have to work hard. The quality of the girls in Park Lleras is much better but it is true you also get some dogs hanging around. Now I usually don't hang out in Park Lleras late that night when it is busiest so my perspective is only based on early evening.

I don't pick up streetwalkers so I can't tell you my personal opinion on the girls performance in bed bed.

[Nounce]

Disclaimer: YMMV, depending on specific context.

When girl steals from you, she gains power over you.
When you give in to multiple gift requests or alone this line, you surrender your power.
When you pay more or when you think you should pay more, you surrender your power.

The images are the negotiation with a Lleras girl. To me she is very attractive and that I was willing to pay for it (the second image). In hindsight, I probably should have approached her friend first. The friend is attractive but not ask attractive but the deal could have been made quickly. Haha. I hope it is obvious why I turned it down. You can see the turn of the event by the 3rd image. That is when I already arranged a date. She asked how much I paid. I answered that in the beginning of the 3rd image. It is sex for the entire duration except when we need to rest. Jaja.

There are things that I do not want to share so I black it out. I know how she thinks. In this case, it just happened that I was able to say something to her to make her smarter to agree with me. I worked with how to price service and there is a scientific way to explain why people pay more so I am not trying to put people down by posting this. The girls derive their value (or price) from the customers so you are not paying more for better girl (assume the girls have the same background, little education, no skill is one of the many categories).

I don't look at the price as a single event. I look at overall cost. I multiply by days, weeks, or months. I want to be free to do what I want, including trio, at any given time

[JohnnieCash]

Could not work out a service agreement with this one. LOLIs that a woman?

[Nounce]

Is that a woman?You are insider. Haha. I can send you the unblurred foto if you drop me your WhatsApp by PM.

BTW, my current favorite like Afro electro. They usually are DJ collections that she found on Youtube. She could not find them from subscription services.

[Nounce]

I personally disagree. You get the worst of the worst in El Centro and there might be a gem or two but you have to work hard. The quality of the girls in Park Lleras is much better but it is true you also get some dogs hanging around. Now I usually don't hang out in Park Lleras late that night when it is busiest so my perspective is only based on early evening.

I don't pick up streetwalkers so I can't tell you my personal opinion on the girls performance in bed bed.I agree with your assessment when I observe it from your point of view.

One can read my reports about these two areas from my posts this year to judge the quality of my posts and your posts too. My posts have included information about session, age, price, where they are from, and even blurred foto. The difference between us is you seem to say that you don't talk to these girl or take them. and I have said in my post this. This can apply to your shopping observation in El Centro as well.


I give the edge to Botero but if only you know what you are doing.

I am not here to claim I know what I am doing because I got help from some of the most experienced guys. I usually don't mentioned names but they have mentioned me enough times here when we met.

[Balboa]

I personally disagree. You get the worst of the worst in El Centro and there might be a gem or two but you have to work hard. The quality of the girls in Park Lleras is much better but it is true you also get some dogs hanging around. Now I usually don't hang out in Park Lleras late that night when it is busiest so my perspective is only based on early evening.

I don't pick up streetwalkers so I can't tell you my personal opinion on the girls performance in bed bed.That's funny. Some dogs?? Pero muchas, LOL.

They change their clothing, put on makeup, go to Lleras.

Work hard to find gems?

You just walk around and chat. Actually it's fun. For me anyway, and I’m good at it :)

To each their own. Enjoy!

[TeddyT6969]

I've never been to Colombia but plan to go there. Are there casas or the equivalent to termas in Brazil there? If so what are they like?

[MoonShot]

That's funny. Some dogs?? Pero muchas, LOL.

They change their clothing, put on makeup, go to Lleras.

Work hard to find gems?

You just walk around and chat. Actually it's fun. For me anyway, and Im good at it :)

To each their own. Enjoy!I agree, everyone needs to check it out for themselves. The type of girl in performance everyone is looking for differs depending on that person. Go to El Centro, take a look at the girls, find one you like and take her to a short time hotel and if it is enjoyable for you, no reason to go elsewhere because it's the best bang for your buck in Medellin. And if you're not happy with the girls on the streets, you can just walk over to the casas for a similar price.

There is no disagreement that El Centro is the best budget option available in Medellin.

[Mastov]

Medellin Vs Bogota.

I'm planning on doing an extended stay in Medellin or Bogota for at least half a year. Is there any reason to choose Bogota over Medellin?

My priorities are:

- Agencies or Massage Parlors over Street Walkers or Clubs.

- I don't like drinking, loud music or walking the streets.

- BBFS.

- I'm open to Seeking Arrangements, though I've never done it.

Questions:

1) Is there any reason to choose Bogota over Medellin, given the above goals?

2) Does Medellin have better or worse agency options than Bogota?

3) Does Medellin have better or worse massage parlor options than Bogota?

4) How common is BBFS in Bogota vs Medellin?

5) How do Bogota women compare to Medellin women in beauty and pleasantness?

6) How is Seeking in Bogota vs Medellin?

[Knowledge]

I think it is a gross exaggeration to suggest the girls of Lleras are of much higher quality than Centro girls. If I put aside that some of them work both locations and just look at it objectively I think it's fair to say there are fewer "untouchables" workingi Lleras than there are around Veracruz. Once you factor in the cost offers of both locations then it is just batshit to try to justify the Lleras uplift. I hung around there Saturday night around 9 pm to enjoy some people watching before the crowds come. I had not been there in months and I was surprised how run of the mill to down right skanky some of the strollers were. I found it much more interesting to watch the punter parade. We definitely come in all shapes, sizes and colors.


That's funny. Some dogs?? Pero muchas, LOL.

They change their clothing, put on makeup, go to Lleras.

Work hard to find gems?

You just walk around and chat. Actually it's fun. For me anyway, and Im good at it :)

To each their own. Enjoy!

[Shemp]

I've never been to Colombia but plan to go there. Are there casas or the equivalent to termas in Brazil there? If so what are they like?I have spent many an evening in the termas in Rio de Janiero & there is nothing remotely similar in Medellin or Cartagena & I am guessing, not in the rest of Colombia either.

[Explorer8939]

Staying in La Mansion. After sampling the ladies downstairs, what are my options for other women? Can I bring "outside" ladies to my room?

[Nounce]

Go to El Centro, take a look at the girls, find one you like and take her to a short time hotel and if it is enjoyable for youHis post has another nugget that I am sure you like. I think you don't really get it because you don't have experience to understand what he wrote.


Hooking up in a bit to spend a day together.He is very experienced. There is a lot of learning curve involved. You are basically stuck like I would be if I don't have some ISGers who were teaching me what to do in real time. LOL.

[Balboa]

I agree, everyone needs to check it out for themselves. The type of girl in performance everyone is looking for differs depending on that person. Go to El Centro, take a look at the girls, find one you like and take her to a short time hotel and if it is enjoyable for you, no reason to go elsewhere because it's the best bang for your buck in Medellin. And if you're not happy with the girls on the streets, you can just walk over to the casas for a similar price.

There is no disagreement that El Centro is the best budget option available in Medellin.Exactly! Cool beans!

We all seem to find our particular niche and what we find enjoyable.

[Balboa]

I think it is a gross exaggeration to suggest the girls of Lleras are of much higher quality than Centro girls. If I put aside that some of them work both locations and just look at it objectively I think it's fair to say there are fewer "untouchables" workingi Lleras than there are around Veracruz. Once you factor in the cost offers of both locations then it is just batshit to try to justify the Lleras uplift. I hung around there Saturday night around 9 pm to enjoy some people watching before the crowds come. I had not been there in months and I was surprised how run of the mill to down right skanky some of the strollers were. I found it much more interesting to watch the punter parade. We definitely come in all shapes, sizes and colors.I have to agree. I enjoy watching the "punter parade" as well! LOL.

I've been to Lleras a few nights this week, and I do get a kick out of the show.

It's a party atmosphere and the guys are in the drivers seat and having fun!

Amusing to watch it all and just see how Medellin has changed over the years.

Over 25 years for me. Yikes! LOL.
I remember the military guarding the road from Rio Negro to the city. Check points. Dog patrols, tanks, etc.
Not a gringo in sight. Not a smart one anyway, lol.
I was dumb and in lust though.
Anyway, different ballgame now. Some ways better, some ways not.
Still great!

Lots of girls walking about Lleras. Mostly not so hot, a few head turners, plenty of skank types as well.

I did meet one stunner last night. A tall beautiful red head. Not normally my type, but very classy looking, beautiful, and nice.

I was spent from the days activities, however, I did get her contact info.

Off to the gym and then the Botero hunt.

Enjoy!

[JohnnieCash]

You are insider. Haha. I can send you the unblurred foto if you drop me your WhatsApp by PM.Nounce has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space , but no need to send me the pic really, I was just being cheeky about the girl you mentioned in the post and then proceeded to mask her whole damn body hah. I'm always curious when someone posts the pics of SWs to see if I might know them but I can't say I was able to recognize this one LOL.

[Shemp]

Staying in La Mansion. After sampling the ladies downstairs, what are my options for other women? Can I bring "outside" ladies to my room?You can bring any woman you want in to the mansion as long as she is 18 + years old & has an acceptable ID. Your option for other women are endless=facebook, escorts, botero plaza, parque lleras, casas, stripclubs, massage spas etc. Etc.

[Husker Dude]

Staying in La Mansion. After sampling the ladies downstairs, what are my options for other women? Can I bring "outside" ladies to my room?As long as they have a valid cedula and have not been banned from the Mansion. Any chica can come in with you from the outside.

[Explorer8939]

You can bring any woman you want in to the mansion as long as she is 18 + years old & has an acceptable ID. Your option for other women are endless=facebook, escorts, botero plaza, parque lleras, casas, stripclubs, massage spas etc. Etc.Thank you.

I think that La Mansion is located close to some of those places.

[BenTiger07]

Bros, what is the actual per hour & nightly rate that will usually close for gustos / isla quality girls & parque quality girls? Per HR & nightly. Wondering if I'm overpaying. I don't want to be blamed for raising prices. But I don't want to go home alone either! LOL.

[BenTiger07]

Staying in La Mansion. After sampling the ladies downstairs, what are my options for other women? Can I bring "outside" ladies to my room?I couldn't find La Mansion on google maps. How is it & where? Someone told me mansion is another term for loutron, but that sounds false.

[DiscoverFL]

I couldn't find La Mansion on google maps. How is it & where? Someone told me mansion is another term for loutron, but that sounds false.Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/FwFFew3MYLarUSJ56.
Website: http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/.

No relation to Loutron.

[Fun Luvr]

Thank you.

I think that La Mansion is located close to some of those places.Hotel La Mansion is not the same as the Mansion Hotel discussed on this site. The monger Mansion Hotel is also known as Medellin Plaza hotel and Hotel M. The Hotel La Mansion is in the downtown area and is close to many casas and cheap strip clubs. DiscoverFL's link to the map is the correct location of the monger Mansion. There are no casas or strip clubs in the immediate vicinity of the monger Mansion.

[JayWonEm]

I couldn't find La Mansion on google maps. How is it & where? Someone told me mansion is another term for loutron, but that sounds false.Here is a previous recommendation on Loutron. There are also a number of youtube videos available which portray it as upscale. Mansion does not appear to be "upscale" from what I can tell.


Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.

[BenTiger07]

Thank you all. I suppose I'll checkout mansion on a weekend night. Based on the 250-300 K prices I'm reading about here, I don't expect the quality to be high there, but it's worth stopping by since it's popular & near the park where there are many other spots to go to if needed.

[MxTH9]

Hi,

How is the nightlife during the week?

Monday to Thursday?

The club is open? A lot of people? Some bar with a lot girl?

Thanks.

[Jim0129]

This is a youtube video about a guy who was denied entry into Medellin Colombia by customs agents, enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFDu6T6QbEo&t=838s

[Exoticspirit]

Thank you all. I suppose I'll checkout mansion on a weekend night. Based on the 250-300 K prices I'm reading about here, I don't expect the quality to be high there, but it's worth stopping by since it's popular & near the park where there are many other spots to go to if needed.The girls at the Hotel M (monger Mansion hotel) are basically like a smaller sample size of what you would find at Parque Lleras, ie. , all sizes and shapes. Many of the girls at the Mansion venture over to Parque Lleras afterwards if they strike out at the Mansion bar. One dude and I actually walked from Hotel M up to Parque Lleras / Provenza one night and it was just a 12 minute stroll, no problems at all. You can see a separate thread on Hotel M under its former name Casa Blanca here. I'll be staying at Hotel M again later in October.

[BenTiger07]

Thank you.

I spend about a few months every year in Medellin, Brazil, & New York. In the past, I mostly focused on picking up girls by going out and ignored the online scene. Great experience offline most of the time. However, I decided to give the online scene a try because of convenience & prices I see, but I'm learning it's not convenient. Here's my honest experience. If any advice, feel free.

Pasionprepagos and mileroticos:

Prices seem good. I made it clear to 2 girls I talked to on there that if the picture is not real, service will be declined. They still pretend it's real. Around the moment of the appointment, games start to occur. Either they mention picture is not real or busy. Maybe afraid to meet at my place too. I understand the last excuse as we're strangers, but that can be easily solved by meeting near a local bar or restaurant for the 1st time. Anyone have good experiences on escort sites? Waste of time to me.

Facebook / IG:

Noticed many people talk about facebook here and IG too. This is not a bad venue. I met some girls this way, but I think you need to be careful who you PM. If you start PMing a bunch of girls "do you offer any services" or "what's your WhatsApp", eventually you may accidentally ask some normal girls who you thought were workers. They may get offended and report you. I don't know fb / ig policy, but I'm guessing you risk losing your account if you get reported a lot. So if you do this, make a completely separate account with no ties to your original. Maybe few pictures of you. You can afford to loss that account.

Tinder / Bumble:

Can work, but it's becoming a popular venue for gangs who want to drug / rob you. You need to be smart & cautious here.

Offline scene-.

Plenty of daytime scene spots that I sometimes I partake in, but I try not to, so I have more energy to go out at night. Fase dos or Parque 1st to see if there's someone I like for cheaper. With current prices at parque, for 90 minutes, I usually close around 300,000-650,000. If nothing, Gusto / Isla for higher quality girls at a price. Cheapest I got at Gustos for 2 hrs recently is 900,000. I only go for girls I'm really into at that price, or I go home alone. These are prices when first meeting them. More choices Thursday-sat night, but at a price because of more gringos. If I want to repeat, I get their phone number to call them to meet Sun-Thurs daytime for cheaper prices. Usually 25-33% cheaper. Sometimes even 50% cheaper.

[Explorer8939]

Hotel La Mansion is not the same as the Mansion Hotel discussed on this site. The monger Mansion Hotel is also known as Medellin Plaza hotel and Hotel M. The Hotel La Mansion is in the downtown area and is close to many casas and cheap strip clubs. DiscoverFL's link to the map is the correct location of the monger Mansion. There are no casas or strip clubs in the immediate vicinity of the monger Mansion.Sorry, I am referring to the Hotel M.

[Nounce]

The girl sent me a picture after she left. I looked at it and then found out I have a chair which I did not know was adjustable. Mine has 3 positions. Try it if you have this type of chair.

[Yuvaraj]

Thanks for the info. Does the 400 mil include the BBJ or that is additional because I heard some casa charge extra for BBJ and kissing?


Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.

[BenTiger07]

The girls at the Hotel M (monger Mansion hotel) are basically like a smaller sample size of what you would find at Parque Lleras, ie. , all sizes and shapes. Many of the girls at the Mansion venture over to Parque Lleras afterwards if they strike out at the Mansion bar. One dude and I actually walked from Hotel M up to Parque Lleras / Provenza one night and it was just a 12 minute stroll, no problems at all. You can see a separate thread on Hotel M under its former name Casa Blanca here. I'll be staying at Hotel M again later in October.Thanks. I get monthly airbnbs, but what are the rates for rooms there? I'll be there for the girls primarily of course, but there's nothing unique about that. The unique thing about that spot is the bar+hotel combo to live around like-minded men & girls.

[Explorer8939]

Thanks. I get monthly airbnbs, but what are the rates for rooms there? I'll be there for the girls primarily of course, but there's nothing unique about that. The unique thing about that spot is the bar+hotel combo to live around like-minded men & girls.The "M" is relatively expensive, but this is my first time in Medellin, so I don't want to be too adventurous.

[Husker Dude]

Thanks. I get monthly airbnbs, but what are the rates for rooms there? I'll be there for the girls primarily of course, but there's nothing unique about that. The unique thing about that spot is the bar+hotel combo to live around like-minded men & girls.Around 100 US / night.

[Yuvaraj]

I'm going to Medellin next week. I would love to meet senior guys like you for a beer. Last time I was there, I had the chance of meeting DiscoverFL at the bar next door to hotel M. Is there a preferred bar that you guys try to meet at? Feel free to DM if that is preferred. Thanks.


In the past two weeks, I have personally meet 5 fellow mongers, 4 of them members of ISG, and so far, all of them are having successful trips in Medellin. We all do different things but no one is having a bad trip and most of the other guys have already gone home without any issues. Not all of their girls have been great but overall the girls have been good according to the guys.

Most of the guys I met were seeing girls on Facebook but some were also meeting street girls on Park Llerras or online prepago girls. No one was complaining about prices and they paid what they wanted to pay. We shared pictures of our girls and the girls looked attractive to me.

Just telling you what guys on the ground are telling me. Guys are happy on the ground. No one complaining about what other guys are doing or paying. We are all just here trying to have a good time.

[BenTiger07]

Thanks for the info. Does the 400 mil include the BBJ or that is additional because I heard some casa charge extra for BBJ and kissing?They charged me 400000 last year. I went once recently & its about 450000 now cash, maybe 60 k more by card but I don't recall exactly. I had girls quote for 200 DOLLARS to get BBJ there, which is more than the service, which is so odd. For BBJ / kiss / etc, best to go elsewhere.

[DiscoverFL]

Thank you all. I suppose I'll checkout mansion on a weekend night. Based on the 250-300 K prices I'm reading about here, I don't expect the quality to be high there, but it's worth stopping by since it's popular & near the park where there are many other spots to go to if needed. It's basically the same girls, at least those with IDs. 250-300 k is really a low-end pricing, heavy negotiating, end of night, etc. Plan more practical 300-400 k ($75-100 USD) and you will have your pick and little negotiating drama. Girls have told me that since the bar is 'easier' and less dangerous they are comfortable charging 300-400 k there and switch to 600 k+ ($150) asking price at park and clubs because its riskier, takes for effort, etc.

[BenTiger07]

Decent guy who spends a few months every year in medellin, Brazil, & NY. In the past, I mostly focused on picking up girls by going out and ignored online scene. I had many great experiences going out. Recently, I decided to give the online scene a try because of convenience & prices. But I'm quickly learning it's not convenient. Here's my honest experience. If any advice, feel free.

Pasionprepagos and mileroticos:

Price seem good. I made it clear to 2 girls I talked to on there that if the picture is not real, service will be declined. They still pretend it's real. Around the moment of the appointment, games start to occur. Either they mention pic is not real or busy. Maybe afraid to meet at my place too. I understand the last excuse as we're strangers, but that can be easily solved by meeting near a local bar / restaurant for the 1st time. Anyone have good experiences on these kinds of sites? Waste of time to me.

FB / IG:

Noticed many people talk about FB / IG. I met some girls this way, but I think you need to be careful who you PM. You don't want to risk getting banned if you get reported.

Tinder / Bumble:

Haven't used it much but I heard it's important to be cautious there.

Offline scene-.

Plenty of daytime spots that I do partake in but I try not to, so I have energy to go out at night & feel outgoing. Fase dos or Parque 1st to see if there's someone I like for cheaper. Maybe I'll add mansion now to the mix. With current prices at parque, for 90 minutes, I usually close around 300,000- 650,000. If nothing, Gusto / Isla for higher quality girls at a price. Cheapest I got at Gustos 2 hrs recently is 900,000. I will only go for girls I'm into at that price. These are prices when first meeting them. More choices thurs-sat night, but at higher price. If I want to repeat, I get their phone number to call them to meet sun-thurs daytime for cheaper prices. Usually 25-33% cheaper. Sometimes even more.

[DiscoverFL]

The "M" is relatively expensive, but this is my first time in Medellin, so I don't want to be too adventurous.I 100% agree with this approach. While the "M" 'sucks', it is unique and should be experienced once. Daytime you get to meet and hang with other mongers staying there, and you are right above the bar where you can meet the girls and invite them up easily. Convenience does trump the Motel 6 feeling. Then once you got your Medellin bearings, you can move forward to a nice AirBnb or similar for your next trip (I am particular to a neighborhood nearby called Manila -- Google it).

[MiamiBoy1]

Thanks for the info. Does the 400 mil include the BBJ or that is additional because I heard some casa charge extra for BBJ and kissing?CBJ by default.

[Husker Dude]

It's basically the same girls, at least those with IDs. 250-300 k is really a low-end pricing, heavy negotiating, end of night, etc. Plan more practical 300-400 k ($75-100 USD) and you will have your pick and little negotiating drama. Girls have told me that since the bar is 'easier' and less dangerous they are comfortable charging 300-400 k there and switch to 600 k+ ($150) asking price at park and clubs because its riskier, takes for effort, etc.A good number for Mansion girls is 350 K including taxi.

[Bdd1124]

I have been to this spa about 3-4 times its on the same street as Marquee hotel anyone gotten any action from any girls there me nothing.

[GiraffyBoy]

A good number for Mansion girls is 350 K including taxi.I am a newbie here and am just curious. I just met a girl from Cali Columbia when I was in Aruba and she said she had traveled to Aruba because the economy (and pay) wasn't as good in Columbia. Looking at these threads, it seems that the going rate in Medellin is about $75-100. When I hooked up with her she asked me for $50 and I am told that was high. Another girl I hooked up with (equally as hot) only asked for $40 (she was from Columbia as well). My question is, why would a girl travel to Aruba to work when she could stay in-country and make more money? Is it the city? Perhaps she was trying to save face? She said she did the same "work" at home.

Thoughts?

[Cursnoop]

I am a newbie here and am just curious. I just met a girl from Cali Columbia when I was in Aruba and she said she had traveled to Aruba because the economy (and pay) wasn't as good in Columbia. Looking at these threads, it seems that the going rate in Medellin is about $75-100. When I hooked up with her she asked me for $50 and I am told that was high. Another girl I hooked up with (equally as hot) only asked for $40 (she was from Columbia as well). My question is, why would a girl travel to Aruba to work when she could stay in-country and make more money? Is it the city? Perhaps she was trying to save face? She said she did the same "work" at home.

Thoughts?The places where non locals go to find sex is overpriced that's why you see 75 to 100 dollars in medellin. I have seen same girl in parque lleras ask for 100+ usd in gusto that has been in Aruba working for 30 usd. They know they can set price high because tourist will pay anything.

[Mr Enternational]

It's basically the same girls, at least those with IDs. Girls have told me that since the bar is 'easier' and less dangerous they are comfortable charging 300-400 k there and switch to 600 k+ ($150) asking price at park and clubs Yet we still have people believing there are not the same girls at different places charging different prices. Why would she charge 100 there when she can get 200 there? She is at the 100 place because she is ugly and can not get 200. No. It just appears a lot of the girls understand business more than a lot of the mongers.

I just bought the same shit off Temu in Thailand that cost double if I would have bought it off Temu while in the States. All the shit is shipped from the same warehouse in China. Why would they sell it for 100 in Thailand when they can get 200 in the States? Because that is how business works. You can sell the same shit in different places for different prices without it meaning the product in inferior if bought at a place for a lower price.

[Mr Enternational]

I am a newbie here and am just curious. I just met a girl from Cali Columbia when I was in Aruba and she said she had traveled to Aruba because the economy (and pay) wasn't as good in Columbia. Looking at these threads, it seems that the going rate in Medellin is about $75-100. When I hooked up with her she asked me for $50 and I am told that was high. Another girl I hooked up with (equally as hot) only asked for $40 (she was from Columbia as well). My question is, why would a girl travel to Aruba to work when she could stay in-country and make more money? Is it the city? Perhaps she was trying to save face? She said she did the same "work" at home.

Thoughts?Because in Cali there are not a bunch of foreigners running the prices up. The prices are geared towards what Colombians pay. In Medellin you have places that foreigners in particular frequent who will pay more than locals pay. So the girls will go to those places and the girls can tell the foreigners $100 and they think well it is less than at home, so it is a good deal. Now even more foreigners are going there because they see $100 as being less than home but ignorantly do not see it as being outrageous for Colombia, which it actually is. (You have Gabacho in another thread talking about how he pays $120/ month for rent and lives where a lot of these chicks live. So you have to figure if they can get $100 from a foreigner for a couple of hours then they are batting 1000.).

Also, Aruba being much smaller, there is less competiton for the $40 or $50 as there is in Medellin for the $100. She maybe even had friends recommend Aruba and have a support system (transportation fronted, place to stay, way to get customers, etc) already in place, whereas arriving in Medellin it would be dog eat dog and survival of the fittest. Most of the hookers working in Medellin are from Medellin, so if they do not get a customer then they are just home with family instead of being out on the street broke and scrounging as an out of towner would be.

[Nounce]

Yet we still have people believing there are not the same girls at different places charging different prices. .I pay girls from lleras, facebook, and centro to my place about the same price to do the same thing. The lleras girl that wanted 150 USD for all cover sex that I posted earlier ended up with 200 mil without restrictions. It does not work with everyone, but it is not that difficult to find some that you can help them to know their place.


My question is, why would a girl travel to Aruba to work when she could stay in-country and make more money?

Like MrE said. Also the price is all over the map. The girl that you meet at mansion changes one price. When she goes to Lleras, she charges another price. It's another price when she meets a customer who stays long term. When you find the same girl on Facebook, it is another price. It is a price that some are paying, but that does not mean the girls are constantly getting work at that price. A lot of them don't seem to get much work. There are many things these girls got wrong. Most can only get the peak-pricing at certain nights but not at off-peak nights.

[GiraffyBoy]

I pay girls from lleras, facebook, and centro to my place about the same price to do the same thing. The lleras girl that wanted 150 USD for all cover sex that I posted earlier ended up with 200 mil without restrictions. It does not work with everyone, but it is not that difficult to find some that you can help them to know their place..The places where non locals go to find sex is overpriced that's why you see 75 to 100 dollars in Medellin. I have seen same girl in parque Lleras ask for 100+ usd in gusto that has been in Aruba working for 30 usd. They know they can set price high because tourist will pay anything.

Gentlemen, thanks so much for the info!

[MoonShot]

I pay girls from lleras, facebook, and centro to my place about the same price to do the same thing. The lleras girl that wanted 150 USD for all cover sex that I posted earlier ended up with 200 mil without restrictions. It does not work with everyone, but it is not that difficult to find some that you can help them to know their place.
Like MrE said. Also the price is all over the map. The girl that you meet at mansion changes one price. When she goes to Lleras, she charges another price. It's another price when she meets a customer who stays long term. When you find the same girl on Facebook, it is another price. It is a price that some are paying, but that does not mean the girls are constantly getting work at that price. A lot of them don't seem to get much work. There are many things these girls got wrong. Most can only get the peak-pricing at certain nights but not at off-peak nights.I don't know why guys are surprised at dynamic pricing. Companies do it all the time. Uber with their surge prices when demand is high. Airlines with dynamic pricing based on supply and demand at any given time. These companies do it based on sophisticated computer programs that determines the most money that they can charge at that moment. The girls don't have access to all the data available at any given time so they just do it based on how they feel about the situation at that time. It makes sense that a girl gauges who you are in that situation and tries to go for the most that she can and then makes a quick decision on whether to accept your offer based on her personal situation at that moment.

Something to keep in mind in that every girl is different and no two girls are identical. The so-called going rate differs depending on the particular girl. While one girl may accept a certain price in a certain place, the girl right next to her may say no and hold firm. Every girl has a different perspective on how business is going and how much she thinks she is worth.

Everything that is said is probably true to some extent but does not apply to all girls. So, yes, there are SOME girls in Park Llleras who also work in El Centro but it is not ALL of the girls. My personal opion is that MOST of the girls who work in Park Llleras are not working in El Centro in the daytime but there is no definitive data either way. Just because some girls work in both locations does not mean all girls do.

[Manizales911]

The places where non locals go to find sex is overpriced that's why you see 75 to 100 dollars in medellin.Not only for girls, everything else too. I live in Manizales and I live in a brand new apartment building in one of the quietest areas of the city, three bedrooms, two bathrooms,$300 usd a month. Bar girls are not much cheaper here,60-80 k pesos. An agency with decent quality girls 190 k for an hour and a half delivered to my door but I don't prefer either of these options, I'm not a smash and dash kind of guy. Seeking Arrangement girls is what I prefer, I pay them 400 k for three hours with the stipulation that if all goes well it could lead to a monthly "arrangement". I have two stunningly beautiful girls here in Manizales on monthly "allowance" for one million a month and they have to see me a minimum of three times a month for at least three hours and they are more than grateful and treat me like a king, we go out dancing and partying or they cook for me at my place and we put on music and have a good time eventually leading to the bedroom. For me it's not just about sex, I prefer a true GFE experience which is hard to find anywhere these days but it can be had but in my experience not in Medellin anymore. I tried Seeking Arrangement in Medellin and the prices they wanted was laughable.

[MxTH9]

I really want to go medellin because I like to go party, club and take girl at the end.

But When I read this thread, I feel the girl in medellin cost more than girl in europe x).

In europe, you can have girl for 50 euros in Germany, and in medellin is 100 euros?

A bit strange.

[Knowledge]

Every sofacama and adjustable chair I've seen in Colombia, including those in my apartment adjust that way. I don't personally change the position of mine. I use a spare room for tryouts and new recruits. The adjustable furniture is popular in Colombia because extended families tend to live together in close quarters and repurpose living space for sleeping quarters at night.


The girl sent me a picture after she left. I looked at it and then found out I have a chair which I did not know was adjustable. Mine has 3 positions. Try it if you have this type of chair.

[GiraffyBoy]

Not only for girls, everything else too. I live in Manizales and I live in a brand new apartment building in one of the quietest areas of the city, three bedrooms, two bathrooms,$300 usd a month. Bar girls are not much cheaper here,60-80 k pesos. An agency with decent quality girls 190 k for an hour and a half delivered to my door but I don't prefer either of these options, I'm not a smash and dash kind of guy. Seeking Arrangement girls is what I prefer, I pay them 400 k for three hours with the stipulation that if all goes well it could lead to a monthly "arrangement". I have two stunningly beautiful girls here in Manizales on monthly "allowance" for one million a month and they have to see me a minimum of three times a month for at least three hours and they are more than grateful and treat me like a king, we go out dancing and partying or they cook for me at my place and we put on music and have a good time eventually leading to the bedroom. For me it's not just about sex, I prefer a true GFE experience which is hard to find anywhere these days but it can be had but in my experience not in Medellin anymore. I tried Seeking Arrangement in Medellin and the prices they wanted was laughable.Wow. Great info. Thanks!

[Nounce]

I don't know why guys are surprised at dynamic pricing..It's different from dynamic pricing. Mainly it's people who are paying peak-price all the time. After you pay peak-price to the same girl a few times (I skip this step because I don't have the urgency), if you are patient. wait for the girl to contact you. For example, on a Tuesday, just let her know you can't pay Saturday tourist rate. Ask her how much she made on Monday or tonight when she argues. One should get an idea of where I am going. My experience also told me that the girls who accpeted are better performers and just think about it that you are paying less for better performance. Not all girls will agree but some will. There are some girls that can make a lot of money in a night but my observation is most can't. And that has nothing to do with what I think is attractive or not. I do not want to session with girls what can maintain high price from Lleras because that implies her mileage is high and service will be limited, supply and demand, right? LOL.

If one thinks the price indicate quality, i posted report that I have FB girl charging 450 coming on my term. and the recent report the Lleras 150 USD girl. They are higher price so they must be better looking too. Again, not all will do it but some will. You just need to learn how to get to those that are smart enough to adjust.

Nice guy usually won't get the best in this context. They think they get it but they don't know and have not tested the upper limit. For example, the reports that say Loutron is great. It may be great for someone, that is because he doesn't know how much better he can have. You can be nice but you have to be strict. Girls are constantly testing your boundary. In a way, this is where the respect is coming from and one reason why guys say girls are laughing at some guys who pay a lot because the guys give away power.

[Nounce]

Every sofacama and adjustable chair I've seen in Colombia, including those in my apartment adjust that way. I don't personally change the position of mine. I use a spare room for tryouts and new recruits. I have a room and bath for girl. But the mirror is in the living room and the balcony is outside of the living room. Now I am able to use this chair so I move my activity to living room altogether. More space for sex, dancing, and I can see girl when she went out for a smoke. It's the best arrangement for me.

[MoonShot]

It's different from dynamic pricing. Mainly it's people who are paying peak-price all the time. After you pay peak-price a few times, if you are patient. wait for the girl to contact you. For example, on a Tuesday, just let her know you can't pay Saturday tourist rate. If she argue, ask her how much she made on Monday or tonight. One should get an idea of where I am going. Not all girls will agree but some will. There are some girls that can make a lot of money in a night but my observation is most can't. And that has nothing to do with what I think is attractive or not. I do not want to session with girls what can maintain high price from Lleras because that implies her mileage is high. LOL.

Nice guy usually won't get the best. They think they get it but they don't know and have not tested the upper limit. You can be nice but you have to be strict. Girls are constantly testing your boundary. In a way, this is where the respect is coming from and one reason why guys say girl are laughing at some guys who pay a lot.Higher prices at peak times and lower prices at slower times, that's the definition of dynamic pricing by the girls. Now, I think that you are making the point that some guys pay peak price all the time despite the ability to pay a lower price at slower periods. But that may be case that some guys don't want to haggle over $10 or $20 when they see their favorite girls because they feel uncomfortable doing that.

Now I have never heard stories about girls laughting at some guys who pay a lot and admiring guys who pay them much lower prices. I think that is what guys who pay low prices like to think. I have heard girls tell me how much more other guys pay them rather than the amount I am paying them but that is more of an attempt to try to get me to pay more next time and there is no laughing at these guys. It is more that this is what I should be paying and I'm not. As you would expect, girls love generous guys and just want them to return ASAP.

I did have a girl tell me about a generous client and she lost touch with him because she lost her cellphone. She says she misses him very much and really liked him, as you would expect. No laughing at the guy or mockery. I don't know many businessmen who mock guys who pay top dollar and have great respect for those who pay them the minimal amount.

[Nounce]

In europe, you can have girl for 50 euros in Germany, and in medellin is 100 euros?

A bit strange.You have not factored into the time. Some are for more than 1 hour. Some are for multiple pops. Some are for unlimited sex for several hours.

[Jorell3]

I know it's not the focus of Medellin but I love a good massage with options. If anyone has any recommendations please let me know. Will be visiting in a few months.

[Mastov]

Not only for girls, everything else too. I live in Manizales and I live in a brand new apartment building in one of the quietest areas of the city, three bedrooms, two bathrooms,$300 usd a month. Bar girls are not much cheaper here,60-80 k pesos. An agency with decent quality girls 190 k for an hour and a half delivered to my door but I don't prefer either of these options, I'm not a smash and dash kind of guy. Seeking Arrangement girls is what I prefer, I pay them 400 k for three hours with the stipulation that if all goes well it could lead to a monthly "arrangement". I have two stunningly beautiful girls here in Manizales on monthly "allowance" for one million a month and they have to see me a minimum of three times a month for at least three hours and they are more than grateful and treat me like a king, we go out dancing and partying or they cook for me at my place and we put on music and have a good time eventually leading to the bedroom. For me it's not just about sex, I prefer a true GFE experience which is hard to find anywhere these days but it can be had but in my experience not in Medellin anymore. I tried Seeking Arrangement in Medellin and the prices they wanted was laughable.I'm considering Medellin as a candidate city to relocate to semi-long term. I'm primarily looking for Escort agencies with BBFS or Seeking Arrangements. I have no interest in the street walking or night club scene. Would you say Manizales is a better version of Medellin for someone who's mostly a boring shut-in? How are the dating opportunities different between Medellin vs Manizales for civilians? Any major downsides to Manizales over Medellin? I'd imagine the smaller population does mean less Escorts, Sugar Babies, dating opportunities. Is there less crime and scopolamine?

[WhileImYoung]

Thanks for this informative report. I'll avoid these. To add to this, these are some time wasters I met through SA (in BOG):

https://members.seeking.com/member/f81048f0-1282-43b3-8b48-6d60401138b2

https://members.seeking.com/member/5d4db825-050e-4134-b2c1-85de94c32f00

Both of these ended up just wanting to chat and asked me to send money before doing anything.


Greetings fellas,

I just wanted to contribute to warn others about these 3 time wasters. One is cute but pulls the oh I'm so poor I can't afford this or that sob story to ask for money with zero intent on meeting.

Goes by Maria.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bd329637-639c-40c7-8167-24c7eee32f50

Sami is a catfish. Much uglier in person. Mood swings. Awful breath. Terrible manners. Clingy. Avoid.

[LoveItHere69]

Agreed, many parts of centro are perfectly safe to visit. The chance you get mugged there during daytime is lower than in El Poblado (debate me on this if you wish). Centro is packed with people on weekdays, there might be pick pockets, but violent attacks don't happen in centro when streets are packed with everyday people.
In the daytime, there are a lot of people walking around and I don't think it is unsafe to visit in the daytime.I had time so went and found my old post. Medellin Post #50696. I took that picture. You kids have no idea.

[Nounce]

Higher prices at peak times and lower prices at slower times, that's the definition of dynamic pricing by the girls. Now, I think that you are making the point that some guys pay peak price all the time despite the ability to pay a lower price at slower periods. But that may be case that some guys don't want to haggle over $10 or $20 when they see their favorite girls because they feel uncomfortable doing that.

Now I have never heard stories about girls laughting at some guys who pay a lot and admiring guys who pay them much lower prices. I think that is what guys who pay low prices like to think. I have heard girls tell me how much more other guys pay them rather than the amount I am paying them but that is more of an attempt to try to get me to pay more next time and there is no laughing at these guys. It is more that this is what I should be paying and I'm not. As you would expect, girls love generous guys and just want them to return ASAP.

I did have a girl tell me about a generous client and she lost touch with him because she lost her cellphone. She says she misses him very much and really liked him, as you would expect. No laughing at the guy or mockery. I don't know many businessmen who mock guys who pay top dollar and have great respect for those who pay them the minimal amount.There are benefit other than money if you read my Poker post. One girl told me she loves me and how much she likes me. I asked her to prove it. Do you get better sex than others when being generous? Generous is a good thing but it does not necessary get the outcome you desire in this circle.

You do not know me so reading my posts may give you a different impression. I will just say that I am writing from my own experience.

[MoonShot]

There are benefit other than money if you read my Poker post. One girl told me she loves me and how much she likes me. I asked her to prove it. Do you get better sex than others when being generous? Generous is a good thing but it does not necessary get the outcome you desire in this circle.

You do not know me so reading my posts may give you a different impression. I will just say that I am writing from my own experience.I am not particularly generous, that is why the girls tell me how much more others are paying them. Ja ja ja. But I do not judge others on the topic of amount paid. It's all good.

You do not know me so reading my posts may give you a different impression.

By the way, your mailbox is full.

For me, the bottom line is this. I am in Medellin. I am enjoying my experience and this debate about prices paid for girls doesn't affect my trip.

[VW1936]

For those that have been to Medellín, Colombia multiple times, what month do you guys see the most Americans there with you?

[KeviKev68]

I had time so went and found my old post. Medellin Post #50696. I took that picture. You kids have no idea.I love going to El Centro during the day. Lots of hot Vennies and so many with tennis skirts and no panties. If you spend enough time there you can find a super hot girl there at much reasonable price than Lleras.

[SpanishBlack]

Let me preface my report by saying, I do not negotiate! Before I even get to the sex talk I get to know them a bit on the casual, (I speak good Spanish, I smoke weed many of them do too) and by the time I ask them how much for the hour, they usually are comfortable enough to give me a decent price. If she's very hot and I want her immediately, I just pay the price. Some may not agree but since implementing this method in my trip to Cali in April I've been getting random BBBJs and BBFS all over. And the ones that don't do BB, at least have some quality sessions with me.

I'm not going to adopt another man's method on how to get quality sessions, while I'm already getting just that. I don't care that the 9/10 charges you 50 mill And went and got 500 mil from the next guy. If it's not in your own full trip report I already don't believe you.

On to the report, a bit lengthy.

Landed in Medellin about 9 pm and headed to an apartment off booking.com. Pretty spacious, safe area with a few restaurants, drug stores and bars. I had a few girls I'd followed on IG that I wanted to see before anything so I hit them up and decided on the first one that replied. She was a 21 year old blondish tall spinner. 300 mil for an hour. BBBJ and condom sex cum on stomach. Pretty good because she was hot but didn't repeat.

Friday woke up to look for some weed and visit plaza Botero / el centro. After walking around and talking to a few guys I got a weed delivery service with some pretty good weed. Didn't expect that quality in Colombia as all of the other cities sucked. I began to walk thru the short term hotels and saw a cute but kinda ghetto pasa girl. 20 spinner wearing slutty clothes and long nails and lashes. Love it. We chat and decide to go upstairs for 80 mil. Condom everything but good session overall.

As I'm leaving to catch my Uber I see another small petite spinner but this one with a bigger ass. I get her number so I can see her later.

I go home wake up around 8 and decided I wanted to go see how el Centro was at night time. Now I understand this is dangerous and I would advise against it if you aren't fluent in Spanish, a risk seeker or look somewhat not foreigner with money. The goal is to look like you have something to do there and don't stay long.

As I'm there I see a group of 3 girls. I just mind my business and as her friends leave this one approaches me. I was pleasantly surprised. FAT ass, big tits slim waist (obviously surgery) but literally what I needed at the time. I thought she was 25 - early 30's but she ended up being 36.

She said 200 mil for the night (and I said my place, let's go. We went to a bar for some drinks then to my place where she basically kept talking about how horny she is. Bareback everything, she either really did like me or was just horny. We finished up and she decided she was going to go home. I was ok with this because she kept talking about zodiac signs and her failed marriage. She kept talking about wanting to come back tomorrow but more on that.

After she left I still had some juice left and decided to hit up one of the girls from IG. All I can say is that these girls are good at taking pictures. She was ok. 100 mil. But I think the disappointment on my face showed and it was one of the weaker sessions. She did give a BBBJ though.

Next day I wasn't feeling the best and spent most of the day in bed ignoring messages for a return visit. I did have a girl from IG coming over, someone I'd been talking to for a while. She came over and we ordered McDonald and fucked. She's a very hot paisa, I'd say an 8,9. Down to earthish.

The girl from the night in el Centro was very persistent about coming back. I personally think I dodged I scoping, she talked too much and I noticed a few things. Her baby's father took her kids from her and her teenage kids don't talk to her, she's in the middle of changing her legal name. I just think she was into something before and is just now trying to either do it better than before or change her life. Either way I'm not here for that so I let that go.

On Sunday I was feeling better and had the girl from IG came over. We went out to eat came back and did our thing and she left around 10 pm. To me the night was just getting started so I decided to get showered up and go to parque Lleras for the first time. I took an Uber there and had a pretty good conversation with him. As I get out the Uber I get on my phone and realize I don't have my phone. I had left it in the Uber. Fuck. I see the Uber pulling off and decide to chase it as fast as I could but I just couldn't catch up. I'm in Colombia and I'm almost certain at this point that it's a lost cause and just begin thinking on what time I'll be waking up to go buy a new one. I had 0 alcohol that night and almost none the whole trip. I go buy a water and go smoke for a bit, basically admitting defeat / stupidity and go walk around looking at the girls.

I see a girl who's pretty cute, fake tits who gives me the look of a girl I know I'll have good sex with so I stop and talk to her. I tell her about my phone and she calls it from hers. No answer. At this point I decide it's best I make a move now and sleep early so I can get up tomorrow early as it was my last day and had to replace the phone. We head out in taxi but not without her making a request to stop in Barrio Antioquia for the pink stuff the Colombians like. I don't partake but was interested to see their little hood and how they do their hustling. They have a whistle system. Pretty cool.

We get to my place and get to action shortly after. She was hotter without clothes. Ass was thick very fun in doggy. Anyways I decide to call my phone again before I get real into this session and lo and behold someone answers. It was the Uber driver. He said a customer found the phone and he doesn't live far and can drop it off. Wow. I don't even believe I'm in Colombia. An iPhone 14 Pro Max getting returned? I stop the session and meet up with him. I ask her how much I should give him for this she said 100-200 mil. I ended up giving him 350 mil because I was so grateful. I returned to the house and had some of the best sex of my life. The chemistry between her and I was like we been dating for a while. Funny because she told me she did have a boyfriend. I gave her 900 mil. She was with me 3 ish hours, helped with the phone, great session. She saved my night and I thought that deserved a good reward.

I had to go to the cash machine so I call another Uber to take us there, to her place and then back to mine. At the beginning of the day when the IG girl came I had taken a Cialis. I was still rolling off of it and the high of recovering my phone I decided to see what Lleras would be like at 3:30 am. It was decent with some talent. Lot of girls looking for their lucky pull at 4 am. I see a short girl from a distance who looks just like the type I think most guys here like. Long black hair smallish frame be cup with low fat everywhere besides her fat ass. I was kinda impressed with how it sat. Got up close and looked good about a 7. Looked 21 but was 26. Venezuelan. Decided I'd get her right back to the house and have fun before the sun came up.

She came over and talked for a bit. 2 kids but didn't look it at all. But my goodness was this girl a FREAK. My dumbass forgot the condom from last girl and she found it next to the lube. She tosses it to the side like she doesn't give a shit and just starts blowing me. Then she rides with no abandon. She then grabs the lube and says to me I put some in my ass too BTW. Basically telling me to fuck her in the ass. I do that, hair pulling, be cup grabbing, she even had me putting my hand in her vagina and pulling on it while in her ass. It's some shit I've never done before but I like girls that don't give a fuck how slutty they look they just want to get their shit off. I've noticed Venezuelans are more like this than Colombians. I was either empty or just enjoying it too much but I couldn't finish. We stop and chill and she gets mad because I haven't finished and I fuck her again in the ass in the kitchen. She eventually taps out and the sun is starting to come out and she gets a taxi and leaves. I sleep completely satisfied with the days events.

Monday it's my day to leave. I decide on one more Centro run and I'the see the girl from IG again. I like sex with many girls but I like stable energy around me as well. In Centro on Monday the girls weren't too hot so I decided to go less off of the overall rating and more so if she looks slutty. Enter the chubby Venezuelan with tongue ring and fatter ass. She has real green eyes too. Literally looked like she would eat me alive and I love that. She told me 50 mil. In my head I'm like wow but I say ok and we go to a short term hotel. Big girl with a big ass but her eyes really were captivating. If she got lipo and a BBL she'll be a problem. The sex wasn't particularly wild like the night before but it was satisfying. BBBJ and condom sex. Left Centro and returned to my place. Got cleaned, changed and IG girl came over. We went to a restaurant near the apartment where I was staying and we came back and had a pretty passionate session.

She left and I got my stuff cleaned and packed and got the taxi driver who I met last night to drive me to the airport.

This was a great trip. I'm glad I travelled first to many other Colombian cities and others in Latinoamrica BEOFRE coming to Medellin. I understood the Latino way and more importantly Colombian way as I spent a month in the coast and ccuta last year and Cali earlier this year. My Spanish shocks everyone because I really don't look like someone who should be speaking Spanish so well and it helps create trust and confidence in me. Age, race and attractiveness does matter yeah but I think any man of any race can have as good a time as I did if they learn the language and just be a real person.

Normally I like alcohol however I didn't not necessarily drink because of risk of Scoping, it was just to have a good time without the drinks and I think I accomplished that.

I knew this last year when I left the coast, I learned it in Cali and I just keep getting it confirmed every trip. For me Venezuelans are the best overall. Maybe the type of sex they like just happens to mesh well with how I like it but everywhere I've been my best sessions are with Venezuelans. I don't get asked for "leche" with them, ever. They also fit the attractiveness I like and they don't ask for money over WhatsApp as aggressively. Dominicans will casually ask you for $200 while a Venezuelan will embarrassingly ask you for $40. Colombians somewhere in between.

Also there was a debate on whether the girls in parque Lleras look better than the girls in el Centro and bases on what I saw majority are the same quality. Better clothing, better setting makes them look more attractive at night but I saw very good looking girls in el Centro on Friday and less attractive girls in Lleras on Sunday. Yeah the top girls of the parque are overall better but the other few hundreds under them aren't.

[Gabacho]

I had time so went and found my old post. Medellin Post #50696. I took that picture. You kids have no idea.Yea but that shit happens once in a blue moon it is not an everyday occurance. You're much more likely to get hit by a motorcycle walking down a street in Jakarta LOL.

If I remember correctly I used to have a video of this incident in my old phone as seen by some surveillance camera. It happened in 2022 and it was 2 women fighting and one of them pulled out a knife and got a couple slashes in on the other woman and then ran away like a coward.

My advice to others who may be in Centro is to just avoid these kind of situations if you see them happening. Obviously these are targeted attacks against people who had some beef to settle. If you are minding your own business, you are not likely to be a target of this type of attack. And if you see an attack happening don't get involved just act as if it wasn't happening and continue on with your normal routine.

As with anything there is always some risk no matter what. It is best to litigate the risk since it cannot be stopped completely. Do you not eat mcdonald's because you're afraid of mad cow disease? Do you not swim at the beach due to fear of a shark attack?? Do you jot fly in an airplane because it may crash??

—Gabacho​Out.

[Yuvaraj]

I have had good luck with Tantra massage in Carrera 80. Last time when I was there in Jan, I think it was 150 mil for 1 girl. I really enjoyed their 4 hands option. Quality wise, I would say 7/10. Nothing like Loutron but for me the price was right.


I know it's not the focus of Medellin but I love a good massage with options. If anyone has any recommendations please let me know. Will be visiting in a few months.

[Nounce]

I am not particularly generous, that is why the girls tell me how much more others are paying them. Ja ja ja. But I do not judge others on the topic of amount paid. It's all good.One example I posted before, a girl told me she had no money because her period and had not been working. I told her I would give her money if she took metro to meet me. She got taxi money from her mother to come to me. I took her to eat, gave her some money and sent her home in taxi because I gave up. LOL. She learned from this in a bad way or she already did it to others because she turned around asked other men for money. Not always this way but this is one possibility. My inbox is not full but I don't know why I am not receiving message.

[Jrealyo]

Is Colombia and Thailand still considered the best places for prices?

[GiraffyBoy]

Let me preface my report by saying, I do not negotiate! Before I even get to the sex talk I get to know them a bit on the casual, (I speak good Spanish, I smoke weed many of them do too) and by the time I ask them how much for the hour, they usually are comfortable enough to give me a decent price. If she's very hot and I want her immediately, I just pay the price. Some may not agree but since implementing this method in my trip to Cali in April I've been getting random BBBJs and BBFS all over. And the ones that don't do BB, at least have some quality sessions with me.Dude. Love the report!! And congrats on getting your phone back!

Can I ask what you look like and your age etc? Just trying to see if I can hold a candle to you!! LOL I am a white guy, decent looking, but bald, 58, but look much younger. My spanish is excellent.

[LoveItHere69]

One example I posted before, a girl told me she had no money because her period and had not been working. I told her I would give her money if she took metro to meet me. She got taxi money from her mother to come to me. Women everywhere are broke and need emergency money. But they can not take the bus or metro. EVER!. It must be a taxi. Pisses me off to no end. I tell some of them they are broke because all their money goes to taxi drivers. I take the bus or metro when I can. If I can then they can too.

[Gabacho]

Let me preface my report by saying, I do not negotiate! Before I even get to the sex talk I get to know them a bit on the casual...
Also there was a debate on whether the girls in parque Lleras look better than the girls in el Centro and bases on what I saw majority are the same quality. Better clothing, better setting makes them look more attractive at night but I saw very good looking girls in el Centro on Friday and less attractive girls in Lleras on Sunday. Yeah the top girls of the parque are overall better but the other few hundreds under them aren't.Excellent report brother. You did a great job of comparing Centro to Lleras and vennies to paisas. That's pretty wild you got your phone back. I too love the vennies but be careful with them. Sounds like you had an excellent experience and that is what is the most important.

[MateoCast98]

God, the best sex you'll have is from non working girls. Cute girl was working at a supplement shop in a CC. I was buying proteíand and asked for her number. I'm in my late 20's in shape, fluent in Spanish etc. 20 yo Sofia, looks a bit like Veronica Rodriguez. She's taking classes online to be a lawyer. Fast forward, invited her to lunch over the weekend. I kept it smooth just got her a Uber after the date, little kiss on the lips. We were chatting on WhatsApp all week I mentioned I was going out to watch the UfC fights. She asked to come along. I say let's just do it at my place I'll make us drinks order a pizza etc. I have a nice pad with a jacuzzi on the balcony. It's going great we start making out during the prelims. She's so was so horny she squirted while I was fingering her, legit shivering. She's goes down on me all of this is in the living room. I'm not a fan of BJs but I let her go a little bit. Then she gets a wild look in her eyes. Hops on top and slips it in raw no questions asked. She's grinding like crazy while I suck her nips. I ask her to call me papi, she calling me daddy while doing that grinding things that only really feels good for her. She has an insane screaming orgasm. This is all like in like 10 minutes. She collapses on top as I just kiss her cheek and neck while petting her head. I haven't finished yet. She says "que rico" she mentíONS she's really busy with school and work and doesn't have sex that often since she broke up with her BF a 3 months ago. Which seemed true that was way too intense. She asked what I want, I ask if she's on birth control since we didn't use a condom. She puts my hand on her arm to feel the implant (Jadel). I try to be all cute saying I'm shy but want to ask something, she says anything, "since you have that can I cum inside you? She giggles, "para ti lo que queiras bebé " (whatever you want baby). She said it feels super warm and she likes it. I proceed to creampie her 4 times that night pausing in between fights etc. She even let me put it in her ass on the 3rd round. She was exhausted and slept over after the UFC fights. Proceeded to having great morning sex and off she went. All it cost me was pizza and her Ubers.

During my stays in Colombia, I've never worn a condom with a non working girl, they don't even ask. I don't either, I feel if you do it might ruin it, that's what friends have told me it's turns them off / they think you ask every girl to go raw. Just let the moment take over.

This has been about 10-12 normal chicks I've done it with all under 25. No condoms etc always a creampie. Some of them aren't even on BC, happened twice where I had been creampieing this cute little thing named Maria, for like 3 weeks and she drops it on me that's she's scared she missed her period. I was like ohhh they don't give af down here. She got it eventually and I paid for her to go on BC.

Def a generational thing, in the States on seeeking as well, condoms aren't used with college age girls I my experience.

[Explorer8939]

Is Colombia and Thailand still considered the best places for prices?I won't be in Medellin for a few days, but I can tell you now that Thailand is much cheaper.

[MateoCast98]

How did you get your favorite girl you regularly see to go raw? I've noticed most will after a few dates. Even gustos girls if they like you. Regular tinder dates and regular girls you pick up normally are 100% raw in my experience not once have they even mentioned a condom. At clubs like gustos or fase dos I don't look for BBFS due to obvious high mileage. And from what I've heard from friends most don't at gustos.

However my two fave / regulars which I take out from gustos quite often. They have let me go bare. These are top gustos chicks, they arrive at midnight and within 30 minutes they got a guy for 300 dollars toda la noche. They are friends you frequenters would recognize them immediately.

First chick, white Latina, huge fake double the tits, great face, clearly goes to the gym. Pretty face. I've been seeing her for three years.

Met her, took her out from gustos about 6-7 times the first month I met her, I would always buy her a drink even when I take out other girls. We were at my place making out and I just asked "you're so sexy can we go bare?" I'm in my 20's, work out, fluent in Spanish. She looks me up and down hesitantly, I can tell she is considering it, we've had fun together. She gives me the classic, "are you clean? " of course baby, she says " I never do that so I'm clean to I just want to be safe" I say what if I give you a little extra, I offer 200 mil more she says okay "only because it's you".

Get to the bedroom she's examining my cock briefly as she giving a bbj. I go down on her, mainly to do my own little inspection. No open sores or anything etc. Obvi you can't tell for most things asymptomatic. Etc I know it's risky. But she's so hot.

We're kissing and I slip in raw, get the cutest little moan. I asked if she was on BC, she said yes, but not to cum inside. After some BBFS I could tell she was enjoying it raw, so I whispered in her ear " I want to cum inside you". She just gulped and nodded. 💦.

While cuddling and kissing, I asked why she let me go bare? She goes "Usted es guapo why joven why ya te conozco" (your young and handsome and we know each other).

But please don't tell anyone I did that. At gustos if it gets out you do BBFS you get a bad reputation. The other Girls will be mean to you and look down on you, call you a ****. Etc.

Also, then I'll have random guys asking for that service when I only did it with you. If it gets out I know who to blame, she gave me a stern look.

She seemed serious I don't fully believe her, however I believe she only does it with regulars she likes. She def wouldn't do it with a stranger on a first date.

Have never worn a rubber with her since also no up charge after the first time either, she seems to enjoy it as well.

After like 4-5 raw dates. I said hey let's go get tested together just to be sure. She seemed very excited at the suggestion. I guess it was on her mind too. Went, it cost like 600 k for both full panel. Both good to go. I mainly did it because I knew I was going to be fucking her a lot and might as well have some test. I was also fucking some regular girls raw just wanted to be "somewhat safe I know she's high volume" but she is so fucking hot.

Girl #2 blonde, light-skin, Venezuelan, you've seen her, huge fake ass on a gym body, softest skin I've ever felt, great tits, great face, big fake tits, good kisser. She's friends with girl #1 they arrive together alot. I've never taken out girl #2 because she's always taken. And #1 is always bare. Tho they offered the threesome a few times.

The three of us would talk at gustos. I would always buy them drinks and feel them both up. Even if I wasn't taking them out. This phase of me was going to gustos 4-5 times a week.

Anyways one day girl #1 is on vacation in Cancun, all my BBFS options are busy. I see #2 walk in looking fine af in tight white body suit and heels, before she even puts her stuff down (on those little hooks under the bar) guys are already trying to get her attention, I see them perking up. She excuses herself to the bathroom and gives me a little kiss on the cheek as she walks by.

No way #2 knew I was creampieing her friend, gustos girls def don't want that reputation. I've had a long chat with another gustos girl about that specific topic.

Fast forward like 20 minutes she's surrounded by a bunch of Mexican guys, trying to buy her drinks. They are friends competing with each other for her love in the vip section LOL. These guys were very overweight. She gives me that "it's my job look" 👀.

She eventually steps away for a bit they look confused. I swoop in and get her a drink. I can feels the daggers in the back of my head LOL. Everybody waiting for me to leave her unattended for a moment. She joked about it. I ask why she stepped away. She goes "I quoted them 400 dollars 2 hours or 500 toda la noche" that's my price when I don't want to go with them.

I was like damn, she goes "the one in the pink shirt, was asking about bbj and wanted to make out in-here etc. Nooo way am I making out with "that".

I go what about me? She smiles of course (wink) . I knew I had to have her, so how much? How much time do you want?

Do you have the same rates as #1?

We charge more than that now, you're grandfathered in with her since you take her out a lot. But tell you what, I'll give you the same rate as her if you do toda la noche. I negotiate two pops, kissing, bbj, we settle at 250 .

Back to my place super fun in the jacuzzi talked for a while, lots of fun, she had her guard down since she knew I was a regular with #1, sex was out of this world with her. We both loved it.

I saw her three more times that week and even took her to get sushi at her favorite restaurant I really wanted bare with this one. I could tell she "liked" me (as a client). You do sometimes have a connection.

5th date, blowing me in the jacuzzi after dinner at colossal. She sits on me and I can feel her wet kitty rub on me p2 p I can tell she's loving it. Then she asks for a condom. Mood killed. I start to ask, before I can even get it out she goes "that's not happening".

I'm sad, she picks up on it tho. She says if you want that, we can go get tested "together" and I'm not BC so you know.

Fast forward two days later we are getting blood drawn. She really uncharged me I paid 400 $ she knew I wanted it.

Before sex she sat me down and gave me a stern talking, she's a young mom and I felt that vibe. She goes just so you know even with a test this is very dangerous and I never do this. I've known you for a while thru #1 and our past few date, but if I should catch anything I'm going to be very upset at you. Etc.

Also, I told you I'm not on birth control, but yet you still keep asking if you can finish inside. I don't like those pills (plan b) see I'm very into fitness like you know, I don't like messing with that stuff. Cumming inside is not safe, but if you really want to fine. You're an adult you know the potential consequences.

Okay mom. Kinda hot tho tbh.

My god her pussy was divine. Making out in mish with my hands full of her bubble butt. She was loving it too. She was trying to hide her moans but she would gasp and her eyes would roll back every now and then. I was pushing it, I go "where do you want me to cum?" She gives me a stern look, "I already told you, it's you" then went back to enjoying it. I blasted an insane load into her, all the pent up waiting and desiring her raw.

Her legs were shaking as I filled her up, that sneaky fox she LOVES creampies. Maybe that's why she had a kid so young LOL.

Afterwards she's saying she can't believe she just did that. What if she gets pregnant, she's doing that squat thing in the shower, trying to pull out my cum with her fingers. She looks so fucking hot. She keeps saying "wtf Mateo theres so much cum". You're super sexy what can I say.

We get back in bed, I'm kissing her feeling her body. She says, what if you did get me pregnant?. I told her what she wanted to hear to calm her down. Then creampied her again god is it intense.

After, we negotiated I mentioned it's too much to see you regularly like that (400 $), she goes "I know I just knew I could get you for more on the first time " LOL.

She proposed a sugar baby / GF arrangement. Wanted 5 k a month. In return she said she wouldn't work and I could creampie her everyday if I wanted to. And she would go on BC, I thought about it, but nope that's a crazy amount. The amount of fresh new puss I could get for 5 k.

Next visit she was a little hesitant about BBFS again asking if I had been safe since last time etc. Got her down to 300 tln BBFS MSOG, she also made me promise not to tell #1.

Some of my friends have asked me about these two, I've even recommended them in gustos, helped the girls translate. My friends or the crew I'm with that night, will see they say Hi to me, and inquire. I walk over let them know that guy is interested. They thank me for the help, or when I know I'm not taking them out, I get them a drink feel them up for a bit at the bar. That gets the guys attention, when I step away they swoop in.

Two of my friends asked to go bare with them #1 told me. She kinda quizzed me, she goes your friend offered me an extra 200 $ if I fucked him raw. While she analyzed my reaction. I respond with what did you say. She goes "Well of course I said no, you didn't tell him I doy that for you right?, that's only between us. Mmkay (don't fully buy that yet)".

Of course not I want you all to myself, I say.

She goes "okay, I just wanted to make sure, I told one of the other girls and she mentioned that guy asked for that service too and to avoid him" they spread the info around boys be careful who you ask.

I really want a threesome with those two. I've seen them get booked for threesome but I want to BBFS.

They both quote 2 k for a week vacation. Unlimited BBFS cip, if only I could get them both. I just don't want to ruin it with either by asking. Or who knows maybe they both know I'm creampieing them both.

Anyways that's how I got my favorite gustos regulars to go raw.

[Bucanero]

Visiting Medellin again in December after a few years of absence. As in the past, I searched for a decent AirBnb in Laureles. In some places, visitors are not allowed. Obviously, I skip these. However, several other hosts now ask me to pre-register visitors as this is supposedly required by the government. "The following questions are asked in order to comply with the regulatory mandate of the Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Tourism of Colombia. " I have to specify names, date of birth and DNI# of all visitors. Of course, I cannot do that as I've not yet met my "visitors". Did anyone of you guys already come across this requirement? Any advice on how to deal with this would be very welcome.

[Mr Enternational]

AirBnb several other hosts now ask me to pre-register visitors as this is supposedly required by the government. "The following questions are asked in order to comply with the regulatory mandate of the Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Tourism of Colombia. " I have to specify names, date of birth and DNI# of all visitors. Of course, I cannot do that as I've not yet met my "visitors". Did anyone of you guys already come across this requirement?..Yes. A couple of times in Bogota. Does not really mean anything. If you look at it, that is only pre doing what hotels do once you arrive. How I see it for Airbnb's is that is only for the owner to keep track of who is in their place. The security is the one that actually signs people in. No security has ever told me that person is not on the list and can not come in. They just ask for their ID and sign them in as usual. Hell at the place I am in Bogota right now the security just turns the book around and make you sign yourself in.

Disclaimer: Medellin could be a different animal about it the way stuff is going on in the news. So they could probably be strict on the policy. Other cities do not do all the bullshit that Medellin does, but I can understand why. These other cities are not filled with the Medellin drama.

[Mr Enternational]

At clubs like gustos or fase dos I don't look for BBFS due to obvious high mileage. And from what I've heard from friends most don't at gustos.

However my two fave / regulars which I take out from gustos quite often. They have let me go bare.

Anyways that's how I got my favorite gustos regulars to go raw.Wait a minute, what? You do not look for BBFS at clubs like Gustos because of the obvious high mileage, yet you got two gustos girls to do BBFS. That is like saying I do not fuck crackheads, but anyway, when I convinced these two crackheads to fuck. Cocaine is a helluva drug!

[BbqMushrooms]

I had time so went and found my old post. Medellin Post #50696. I took that picture. You kids have no idea.How do you pull up a post by number? Tried searching, tried changing the URL, no dice.

You even wrote the wrong number … 50696 is here and not your post: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2626600&viewfull=1#post2626600

[SpanishBlack]

Dude. Love the report!! And congrats on getting your phone back!

Can I ask what you look like and your age etc? Just trying to see if I can hold a candle to you!! LOL I am a white guy, decent looking, but bald, 58, but look much younger. My spanish is excellent.Hey, I'm early 30's, black, 5'10, muscular build. Yes, in my prime physically, but I really think a good looking, well put together man of any age under 65/ race can have his way with majority of girls 24, 25+.

Personally I've noticed that Latinoamérica men are less prone to balding. That may be the one thing that works against you. I'm a demographic / genetic observer and love looking at new people. DR and Colombia I've seen less balding that Europe and North America.

[Turgid]

I won't be in Medellin for a few days, but I can tell you now that Thailand is much cheaper.My last visit to Thailand was 2015 and my last visit to Medellin was 2019 and I thought at the time that Medellin was cheaper than Thailand. However, you are in Medellin now and you spend much time in Thailand so I'll have to accept your comparison. Things have certainly changed.

[Nounce]

you spend much time in Thailand so I'll have to accept your comparison. Things have certainly changed.But he does not know Medellin.

[Nounce]

I too love the vennies but be careful with them. Sounds like you had an excellent experience and that is what is the most important.My experience too, vennies are more caring and better at GFE right out the gate. I know a lesbian couple. One of them encouraged me put my hand into her pussy and it was a storm in there.

[NorthernLight]

There is difference between guests (including yourself) and visitors. Guest normally means who stays overnight.

The host often asks all guests, but not visitors, be pre-registered.

You can ask the host if you can invite local friends to the apartment. If the host replies that the visitors also have to be pre-registered, you can skip it.


Visiting Medellin again in December after a few years of absence. As in the past, I searched for a decent AirBnb in Laureles. In some places, visitors are not allowed. Obviously, I skip these. However, several other hosts now ask me to pre-register visitors as this is supposedly required by the government. "The following questions are asked in order to comply with the regulatory mandate of the Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Tourism of Colombia. " I have to specify names, date of birth and DNI# of all visitors. Of course, I cannot do that as I've not yet met my "visitors". Did anyone of you guys already come across this requirement? Any advice on how to deal with this would be very welcome.

[Gabacho]

My last visit to Thailand was 2015 and my last visit to Medellin was 2019 and I thought at the time that Medellin was cheaper than Thailand. However, you are in Medellin now and you spend much time in Thailand so I'll have to accept your comparison. Things have certainly changed.I'm In Thailand right now and I can confirm 100% that Medellin is cheaper, but obviously you need to compare apples to apples. Of course a beach road freelancer is cheaper than a girl from gustos or loutron etc.

So comparing apples to apples Pattaya vs Medellin:

Beach road freelancers start at 1000 baht ($30 usd). Botero street prostitutes start out at 50 k COP ($12.50 usd). So street prostutes in Medellin are cheaper than street prostitutes in Pattaya. That being said, I think accomation such as AirBnb and food are cheaper in Thailand.

I have a real nice airBnb I'm paying $15 a day and I have a whole apartment on the 7th floor of a condo building with AC, hot water, full kitchen to cook and prepare meals, a balcony and a swimming pool on-site and every other day 3 maids come and sweep / mop take out the trash, wash my dirty dishes, change the sheets on the bed and swap my towels for new ones. I don't think you would find that in Medellin for $15.

Also a 30 pack of eggs at Big see is 126 baht ($3.81 usd). Last time I was at exito Aranjuez back in March I believe the 30 pack of eggs was $15,900 COP ($3.97 usd). A whole rotisserie chicken at Big see is 132 baht ($4 usd)​ while a rotisserie chicken at exito is $19,000 COP ($4.75 usd).

Transportation is also cheaper in Thailand with the baht bus costing just 10 baht (30 ¢ usd)​ and the Medellin​ metro costing 3280 COP (82 ¢ usd). ​

I will soon be venturing into the jungle into the northern Isaan region of Thailand to a town called Udon Thani which is 60 km from the Thailand / Laos border. Things are supposed to be alot cheaper up there than in Pattaya (which is basically a tourist destination) so maybe up there the price the women charge will be more closer to what prostitutes in Colombia charge. I will report my experiences in the corresponding sections.

I think the real place of interest in Southeast Asia that may be as cheap or even cheaper than Colombia is not Thailand at all but actually Jakarta, Indonesia. And I will be investigating the scene over there as well and I will report back on what I find.

GabachoOut.

[Bucanero]

Thanks! The official document mentions "huespedes", which means guests, but the host mentioned "visitors". The difference may have been lost in the translation. In any case, I'll ask the host to be sure.


There is difference between guests (including yourself) and visitors. Guest normally means who stays overnight.

The host often asks all guests, but not visitors, be pre-registered.

You can ask the host if you can invite local friends to the apartment. If the host replies that the visitors also have to be pre-registered, you can skip it.

[GreenBud]

Beach road freelancers start at 1000 baht ($30 usd). Botero street prostitutes start out at 50 k COP ($12.50 usd). So street prostutes in Medellin are cheaper than street prostitutes in Pattaya.But the Pattaya beach road FLs are for 1 hour. Botero FLs will be for "rato". Many will promise you 30 minutes, but you will be lucky to get 15 minutes, maybe 20 minutes before the knock. Bogota might be worst for the quick knock than Medellin.

Also, IMO, the overall quality in Colombia is better for street FLs (IMO, more so in Bogota than Medellin for street FLs).

Overall for street FLs, I definitely prefer Colombia over Thailand. And I definitely prefer Santa Fe (Bogota) over Santa Cruz (Medellin).

[Mr Enternational]

But the Pattaya beach road FLs are for 1 hour. Botero FLs will be for "rato". Many will promise you 30 minutes, but you will be lucky to get 15 minutes, maybe 20 minutes before the knock. Bogota might be worst for the quick knock than Medellin.

Also, IMO, the overall quality in Colombia is better for street FLs (IMO, more so in Bogota than Medellin for street FLs).

Overall for street FLs, I definitely prefer Colombia over Thailand. And I definitely prefer Santa Fe (Bogota) over Santa Cruz (Medellin).The knock depends on the motel. In Bogota chick took me to one last night where we were literally in the room an hour and a half and nobody ever came knocking. 12,000 pesos. When we finally left out, I saw the guy sitting downstairs in a chair. I do not know if he was listening to music, sleep, or dead.

Other apples we can compare is disco freelancers. In Pattaya I 99% of the time pay $35 for long time. The most one should pay IMO is $60. I have seen reports here of some guys paying $90. (I do not think those guys negotiate.) What is a Gustos freelancer going to get a guy for long time when he takes them out of the club?

[DaShadow]

Hey guys. My friends bachelor party is coming up and they rented a huge house in Medellin for the weekend.

Any advice or contact info for some nightly entertainment at the vila? Or do we all have to go out every night?

Thanks in advance.

[GiraffyBoy]

Hey, I'm early 30's, black, 5'10, muscular build. Yes, in my prime physically, but I really think a good looking, well put together man of any age under 65/ race can have his way with majority of girls 24, 25+.

Personally I've noticed that Latinoamrica men are less prone to balding. That may be the one thing that works against you. I'm a demographic / genetic observer and love looking at new people. DR and Colombia I've seen less balding that Europe and North America.SB, Thanks for the info. Generally speaking, I agree with you. Not much I can do though about the hair. Not going with minoxidil or whatever. Most people think I am in my mid 40's, so I should be good for a while. I don't have any experience in Colombia yet, but I hope to visit soon. Thinking to go to Cali or Med. I go to Ecuador quite a bit and do alright down there.

[GiraffyBoy]

I'm In Thailand right now and I can confirm 100% that Medellin is cheaper, but obviously you need to compare apples to apples. Of course a beach road freelancer is cheaper than a girl from gustos or loutron etc.

So comparing apples to apples Pattaya vs Medellin: Great Info! Thanks Gab.

[GiraffyBoy]

Back to my place super fun in the jacuzzi talked for a while, lots of fun, she had her ... Mateo, Great report! This place you have, did you rent it or do you own it? How much does it cost if you are renting it and for how long?

[Combo]

God, the best sex you'll have is from non working girls. Cute girl was working at a supplement shop in a CC. I was buying proteand and asked for her number. I'm in my late 20's in shape, fluent in Spanish etc. 2

W / o a doubt. But you're in your 20's and fluent in Spanish. You should have no problem getting non-pros in Colombia. I remember those days, but they're fading fast.

[Explorer8939]

I'm In Thailand right now and I can confirm 100% that Medellin is cheaper, but obviously you need to compare apples to apples. Of course a beach road freelancer is cheaper than a girl from gustos or loutron etc.

So comparing apples to apples Pattaya vs Medellin:

Beach road freelancers start at 1000 baht ($30 usd). Botero street prostitutes start out at 50 k COP ($12.50 usd). So street prostutes in Medellin are cheaper than street prostitutes in Pattaya. That being said, I think accomation such as AirBnb and food are cheaper in Thailand.

I have a real nice airBnb I'm paying $15 a day and I have a whole apartment on the 7th floor of a condo building with AC, hot water, full kitchen to cook and prepare meals, a balcony and a swimming pool on-site and every other day 3 maids come and sweep / mop take out the trash, wash my dirty dishes, change the sheets on the bed and swap my towels for new ones. I don't think you would find that in Medellin for $15.

Also a 30 pack of eggs at Big see is 126 baht ($3.81 usd). Last time I was at exito Aranjuez back in March I believe the 30 pack of eggs was $15,900 COP ($3.97 usd). A whole rotisserie chicken at Big see is 132 baht ($4 usd)​ while a rotisserie chicken at exito is $19,000 COP ($4.75 usd).

Transportation is also cheaper in Thailand with the baht bus costing just 10 baht (30 usd)​ and the Medellin​ metro costing 3280 COP (82 usd). ​

I will soon be venturing into the jungle into the northern Isaan region of Thailand to a town called Udon Thani which is 60 km from the Thailand / Laos border. Things are supposed to be alot cheaper up there than in Pattaya (which is basically a tourist destination) so maybe up there the price the women charge will be more closer to what prostitutes in Colombia charge. I will report my experiences in the corresponding sections.

I think the real place of interest in Southeast Asia that may be as cheap or even cheaper than Colombia is not Thailand at all but actually Jakarta, Indonesia. And I will be investigating the scene over there as well and I will report back on what I find.

GabachoOut.Udon Thani is significantly more expensive than Pattaya.

[Gabacho]

The knock depends on the motel. In Bogota chick took me to one last night where we were literally in the room an hour and a half and nobody ever came knocking. 12,000 pesos. When we finally left out, I saw the guy sitting downstairs in a chair. I do not know if he was listening to music, sleep, or dead.

Other apples we can compare is disco freelancers. In Pattaya I 99% of the time pay $35 for long time. The most one should pay IMO is $60. I have seen reports here of some guys paying $90. (I do not think those guys negotiate.) What is a Gustos freelancer going to get a guy for long time when he takes them out of the club?Yea there's one called el tunnel that I regularly get longer than 30 mins and also at Hotel Botero Real in Medellin right by the Veracruz (not santa cruz, That's a estrato one barrio) church, I often get about 45 to 55 minutes before the knock comes. I stand by my comments that street prostitutes in Colombia are cheaper than street prostitutes (freelancers) on beach road Pattaya Thailand.

[Balboa]

…
Also there was a debate on whether the girls in parque Lleras look better than the girls in el Centro and bases on what I saw majority are the same quality. Better clothing, better setting makes them look more attractive at night but I saw very good looking girls in el Centro on Friday and less attractive girls in Lleras on Sunday. Yeah the top girls of the parque are overall better but the other few hundreds under them aren't.Right on SB!

I agree 100 %!

Glad you got your phone back!

Good on you for giving a nice tip to the Uber guy!

[Gilolo]

There are lovely girls everywhere in Medellin in El Centro or Parque Lleras, just need to find the good one at the goond time and who isn't busy with another customer.

But the difference between these 2 places is in El Centro 100% of the girls fuck bareback and are very cheap between 50 to 100 mil pesos and in Parque Lleras only 80% accept fuck bareback and are more expensive about 300 mil pesos.


Right on SB!

I agree 100 %!

Glad you got your phone back!

Good on you for giving a nice tip to the Uber guy!

[Knowledge]

I think you can resolve balding issues by shaving your head. Given the choice, I would greatly prefer being more prone to balding than the Latin America condition of being more prone to be broke.


SB, Thanks for the info. Generally speaking, I agree with you. Not much I can do though about the hair. Not going with minoxidil or whatever. Most people think I am in my mid 40's, so I should be good for a while. I don't have any experience in Colombia yet, but I hope to visit soon. Thinking to go to Cali or Med. I go to Ecuador quite a bit and do alright down there.

[Turgid]

Great Info! Thanks Gab.I agree. Also airfare will add to the Thailand expense overall.

[LoveItHere69]

But the difference between these 2 places is in El Centro 100% of the girls fuck bareback.That is 100% wrong. My estimate is 70%.

[GiraffyBoy]

I think you can resolve balding issues by shaving your head. Given the choice, I would greatly prefer being more prone to balding than the Latin America condition of being more prone to be broke.LOL. Agree. I keep what's left at about 2 mm. Too much work to shave.

[GreenBud]

I stand by my comments that street prostitutes in Colombia are cheaper than street prostitutes (freelancers) on beach road Pattaya Thailand.Of course that's correct. I normally pay 100 K or 120 K for an hour in Colombia (Mr E probably can get it cheaper). It's still cheaper than Beach Road. And many of the better ones on Beach Road will ask for more (I can't negotiate).

Even though the SW, on the average, is better looking in Colombia than Thailand, I prefer (overall) Thailand over Colombia. Better food, more safe, better party zones, better weed, better vibes. Only thing is if you like coke. If you like coke, DO NOT go to Colombia.

[Gabacho]

Of course that's correct. I normally pay 100 K or 120 K for an hour in Colombia (Mr E probably can get it cheaper). It's still cheaper than Beach Road. And many of the better ones on Beach Road will ask for more (I can't negotiate).

Even though the SW, on the average, is better looking in Colombia than Thailand, I prefer (overall) Thailand over Colombia. Better food, more safe, better party zones, better weed, better vibes. Only thing is if you like coke. If you like coke, DO NOT go to Colombia.I only like coke zero or as it's called in Colombia coca-cola sin azucar. Regular coke has way too much sugar in it and I prefer to eat my calories not to drink them.

[Kazeu]

Hey SB! Great report man! Lots of detail and good stories. I'm just curious about how you pull girls off of IG? Its an avenue I've never tried before but it intrigues me with the possiblities. How do you go about finding the good looking girls there that might be open to the idea of P4 P?



Monday it's my day to leave. I decide on one more Centro run and I'the see the girl from IG again. I like sex with many girls but I like stable energy around me as well. In Centro on Monday the girls weren't too hot so I decided to go less off of the overall rating and more so if she looks slutty. Enter the chubby Venezuelan with tongue ring and fatter ass. She has real green eyes too. Literally looked like she would eat me alive and I love that. She told me 50 mil. In my head I'm like wow but I say ok and we go to a short term hotel. Big girl with a big ass but her eyes really were captivating. If she got lipo and a BBL she'll be a problem. The sex wasn't particularly wild like the night before but it was satisfying. BBBJ and condom sex. Left Centro and returned to my place. Got cleaned, changed and IG girl came over. We went to a restaurant near the apartment where I was staying and we came back and had a pretty passionate session.

[Tudman]

Guys there are many posts about webcam girls on here. I am attaching a link to a website that interviews the monitors who commit fraud everyday pretending to be the girls you are talking to on the platform and on WhatsApp. Yes it's so tempting, but the probabilities of you meeting up with one is ridiculously low, why waste your time, money and get frustrated. Enjoy!

https://restofworld.org/2022/colombias-webcam-industry-mentors/

[Bango Cheito]

I live in Bogotá and mostly monger there but I'm in Medellíand on business this week.

I'm staying at an Airbnb in Centro. It's definitely sketchier than it used to be down here but you wouldn't catch me dead in Poblado, and much less in Lleras. To each his own, though.

I just went a few blocks away to Carrera 53 to a place called Hilton Grill. They have a little stage with a pole and the girls come up and do quick 5-minute shows where they get completely nude, then go around the tables soliciting tips. Some let you touch, others don't.

Ended up going to the back room with Jakillin, a tall slim Medellíand native. Absolutely amazing in bed, good solid 8 in the looks dept. 120 k COP.

I really don't get paying 250-300 k for a girl here, much less 100 USD and up, anywhere in Colombia really. As always, YMMW.

[Mastov]

I live in Bogot and mostly monger there but I'm in Medelland on business this week.

I'm staying at an Airbnb in Centro. It's definitely sketchier than it used to be down here but you wouldn't catch me dead in Poblado, and much less in Lleras. To each his own, though.

I just went a few blocks away to Carrera 53 to a place called Hilton Grill. They have a little stage with a pole and the girls come up and do quick 5-minute shows where they get completely nude, then go around the tables soliciting tips. Some let you touch, others don't.

Ended up going to the back room with Jakillin, a tall slim Medelland native. Absolutely amazing in bed, good solid 8 in the looks dept. 120 k COP.

I really don't get paying 250-300 k for a girl here, much less 100 USD and up, anywhere in Colombia really. As always, YMMW.What are your thoughts on Bogota vs Medellin in terms of escorts, sugar babies and BBFS options?

Also do you feel outside of girls that Medellin is more laid back?

[GiraffyBoy]

Hey SB! Great report man! Lots of detail and good stories. I'm just curious about how you pull girls off of IG? Its an avenue I've never tried before but it intrigues me with the possiblities. How do you go about finding the good looking girls there that might be open to the idea of P4 P?Yes, I second that. I just posted a similar thread the other day. Just signed up for IG like yesterday or the day before.

[Recondite]

The way to meet a webcam girl is not on her page. I speak from experience as I've met six girls who webcammed in person and chatted with a bunch more. Of those six I'd consider three successful, I. E. They make a full-time living webcamming and have been doing it for over a year. I've met most of these girls through their Facebook as well as through personal contacts. Some points to remember are.

1) for every successful webcam there are a lot more who tried and failed or don't have the discipline to be successful. These include some of the girls on the gringo prepago circuit.

2) It's a common job in Colombia. So it's not that hard to find them once you've talked to enough women online.

3) My approach has always been friendlier and chattier rather than businesslike as I like to see what I can get for free. I didn't even find out most had done webcam work until out on a date or at my place. In some cases, they've told me in chat and I just treat them like any other girl I'm talking to. It's simple advice but that's how to win over a stripper or any other type of sex worker. Treat them like normal, be friendly, treat their job like a normal one, and don't act like a client / fan.

4) They come in all shapes and sizes. Of the three successful ones I've been with two were more stereotypical with a bunch of plastic surgery and lots of enhancements while one was a slightly curvy girl next door type. They've told me stories of fat girls at their studios who make more money than they do, doing stuff like eating on camera.

5) A lot of them still want / need money and several hook on the side of webcamming. I was set up with one who happens to be one of the hottest women I've met in Medellin by an expat who lives in Medellin full-time. She was very selectively prepagoing, by reference only as a way to earn more money. She has 344 k followers on Instagram.

My goal for the next time I'm in Medellin is a pornstar, with bonus points for free. I've made contact with a few and have a very friendly chat going with a minor one so fingers crossed.


Guys there are many posts about webcam girls on here. I am attaching a link to a website that interviews the monitors who commit fraud everyday pretending to be the girls you are talking to on the platform and on WhatsApp.

[BlueChange]

My goal for the next time I'm in Medellin is a pornstar, with bonus points for free. I've made contact with a few and have a very friendly chat going with a minor one so fingers crossed.I didn't realize it but over the years, especially the past two I've banged more pornstars here in med. The term "pornstar" to me is just any girl that fucks a guy on camera. There is a rising number of these girls that will fuck a couple times and that's it and then like 2 that will go the full porn route and eventually go to miami and La and go into the scene. There are several production houses and porn stars from the states that come here, book like 1 or 2 month in an airbnb or hotel and shoot content then put it up.

They are sourcing a LOT a of these girls off seeking and tin. I have banged 2 before they went and did a scene and spoke to them after and they regret it. One even didn't get paid!

That said, some other tips I can add if you really want to bang a porn star is type in Medellin into the search bar of the website and eventually with some googling you'll find girls with small following that will respond to "hey I'm here in Medellin you looking for some help?" but just don't come across as a fan. A lot of these girls also go to Mexico City and film up there for a month. I really couldn't belive it when a chick I banged like 2 years ago apeare on a video and I couldn't figure out why her though I knew her face, then BAM! Also the dude came toooo soon like me when I banged her! She must have magic puussssyy!

Happy hunting! DM me maybe I can connect.

[MoonShot]

Hey SB! Great report man! Lots of detail and good stories. I'm just curious about how you pull girls off of IG? Its an avenue I've never tried before but it intrigues me with the possiblities. How do you go about finding the good looking girls there that might be open to the idea of P4 P?Most of the girls also have a Facebook account and vice versa. Many of the FB girls have an IG or social media account where they post pictures. I usually just ask to be friends with girls on Facebook and then see that they are on other social media platforms. Many of them are open to pay for play so you can just contact them on IG and then move them to WhatsApp and you can have a discussion about meeting up in Medellin along with negotiations about price.

[GiraffyBoy]

Hey SB! Great report man! Lots of detail and good stories. I'm just curious about how you pull girls off of IG? Its an avenue I've never tried before but it intrigues me with the possiblities. How do you go about finding the good looking girls there that might be open to the idea of P4 P?Don't know what happened, but all I did was type in the name of the city and the country and a whole bunch of stuff came up!! That didn't happen last time, but it's pretty easy to see who is a player.

Example, I typed in Medellin Colombia and Boom!

[TonyEm]

... place called Hilton Grill. ...120 k COP.

I really don't get paying 250-300 k for a girl here, much less 100 USD and up, anywhere in Colombia really. As always, YMMW.Just FYI the going rate there is about 80 k COP.

2 mil tip is customary in those clubs.

Cheers.

[MateoCast98]

Mateo, Great report! This place you have, did you rent it or do you own it? How much does it cost if you are renting it and for how long?It's an Airbnb I rent it out for a month or two at a time. Always try to get a jacuzzi, the girls love it.

[Bango Cheito]

Just FYI the going rate there is about 80 k COP.

2 mil tip is customary in those clubs.

Cheers.See, there ya go!

I think I did OK for 120 though. BBBJCIMNQNS

[Explorer8939]

I filled out the BioMIG form a couple of days before entering Colombia. Nobody asked to see it.

[MoonShot]

I filled out the BioMIG form a couple of days before entering Colombia. Nobody asked to see it.This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. Immigration has the data on their computers. Airlines often asked to see the completed form before they allow you to check in or board. Not all, but many. It doesn't take that long. It is advisable to fill out that form because it is a requirement. Otherwise, you may run into problems.

[TonyEm]

See, there ya go!

I think I did OK for 120 though. BBBJCIMNQNSYep, definitely, since normally those additions are extra $ (and I'd also say she's much hotter in person than the photo, one of the top girls in there IMO).

[Mr Enternational]

I filled out the BioMIG form a couple of days before entering Colombia. Nobody asked to see it.The other day I did not fill it out for like the 10th time and nobody asked about it.

[Turgid]

I filled out the BioMIG form a couple of days before entering Colombia. Nobody asked to see it.Don't the immigration officer see it online? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Explorer8939]

Don't the immigration officer see it online? Correct me if I'm wrong.Could be, but the airline didn't ask me for it.

At any rate, it wasn't a big deal to fill out online.

[Bango Cheito]

Yep, definitely, since normally those additions are extra $ (and I'd also say she's much hotter in person than the photo, one of the top girls in there IMO).I actually asked her if she wanted me to put her info on a clandestine and exclusive internet forum (I. E. Here) to get more business and she said she'd prefer not, so I will respect her wishes.

If anybody happens to come across this gem, though, highly recommended!

[Turgid]

Do not be duped guys, think smart. Always fill out the BioMIG form when travelling to Colombia.

[Nounce]

Do not be duped guys, think smart. Always fill out the BioMIG form when travelling to Colombia.Think smart, you should fill out the Check-mig instead of BioMig.

[Orgasmico]

Recent casa run. Seems like 70 for a half and 90 for an hour is what I see being advertised. Approaching the casa, I hear a loud voice that sounds American. As I enter there is a big football player sized brotha trying to take a selfie with 2 chicas. I step around them and proceed. Guy says a few very loud words as he is leaving. I sit in the seating section and the only person there was another brotha that looked American by his clothes and mannerisms. I see the lineup. He leaves with his choice. I pick a chica though the lineup was so so. They said these were the chicas available so maybe some other dudes already came and picked the better ones. This was on a Saturday, which is probably the worst day to go for a casa run because the weekend warriors are in town, which is something I didn't think about before hand. This is a bigger consideration now than in the past.

My chica was decent. We talked first. She's from Itagui. Asked about BBBJ. She said for a propina. Seems like the propinas are getting more standardized now. In the past, the girls would rarely spit out a number and leave it to my discretion. Now I encounter chicas quoting as high as 50. Anyway, we got down to business and it was a fun session. When it was time to wash up, she jumped in the shower after asking if I wanted to shower. I saw a big cockroach on the wall so I declined. Just washed off quickly and kept it movin.

I also walked behind the church and saw a couple of decent babes but I would say 80% were roadkill. Either way, you probably should be drunk or high if you go that route. Will make them look better.

[Black Page]

This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. I love your post!
Reading "Latin" here is not really a common thing. KUDOS!
(No, "Latin" does not mean the language spoken by Puerto Rico reggaetoneros).

[Explorer8939]

Just FYI the going rate there is about 80 k COP.

2 mil tip is customary in those clubs.

Cheers.To clarify, "2 mil" = 2,000.50 cents US.

[Knowledge]

Would you be willing to share the name or location of the casa you reviewed? I think that information is at least as useful as your demographic observations.


Recent casa run. Seems like 70 for a half and 90 for an hour is what I see being advertised. Approaching the casa, I hear a loud voice that sounds American. As I enter there is a big football player sized brotha trying to take a selfie with 2 chicas. I step around them and proceed. Guy says a few very loud words as he is leaving. I sit in the seating section and the only person there was another brotha that looked American by his clothes and mannerisms. I see the lineup. He leaves with his choice. I pick a chica though the lineup was so so. They said these were the chicas available so maybe some other dudes already came and picked the better ones. This was on a Saturday, which is probably the worst day to go for a casa run because the weekend warriors are in town, which is something I didn't think about before hand. This is a bigger consideration now than in the past.

My chica was decent. We talked first. She's from Itagui. Asked about BBBJ. She said for a propina. Seems like the propinas are getting more standardized now. In the past, the girls would rarely spit out a number and leave it to my discretion. Now I encounter chicas quoting as high as 50. Anyway, we got down to business and it was a fun session. When it was time to wash up, she jumped in the shower after asking if I wanted to shower. I saw a big cockroach on the wall so I declined. Just washed off quickly and kept it movin.

I also walked behind the church and saw a couple of decent babes but I would say 80% were roadkill. Either way, you probably should be drunk or high if you go that route. Will make them look better.

[TrickTruck]

Hi all, I'm a new member who will be visiting Colombia in October. Firstly, thank you all for your contributions. This thread is so insightful. I've read the last 200 pages and really appreciate the information provided. I will provide a full report of my trip, during and after.

I'm staying at Hotel M from the 3rd of October until the 6th and then again from the 10th of October until the 14th. I will be going to Cartagena in the interim. If any of you are around during that period, I definitely owe you a drink so feel free to contact me.

I joined seeking but generally found the prices quoted really high, and often in usd. I've got some numbers, and in the spirit of giving back: contact me.

I'm going to use the high end strip clubs and PL bars (gustos) to get numbers for daytime action, if the price is right. I'll also visit Centro in the daytime, with my head down, no watch in sight and dressed simply!

Regarding Centro and specifically the advice given not to visit at night, how does this work with the strip clubs? For example Barra E which doesn't open until later? Playmates opens at 2 pm but I was wondering, with reference to Barra E and the other Centro strip clubs, do you just Uber straight there and when done, straight back, like door to door? Ideally I want to sample Barra E but if the common consensus is to avoid them so be it, due the opening times being in the evening.

I enjoy the strip club vibe, where there is value. I'll go to Luna lunera too, as that is open 24/7 but ideally I'd like to find clubs that are open from midday onwards, to kill some daylight time. Any advice would be welcome.

I'm not particularly partial to casas, though I will spend one afternoon checking out a couple of them.

Again, should anyone be around at the same time, let's plan an excursion or two!

[Zeos1]

To clarify, "2 mil" = 2,000.50 cents US.How do you get that? 2 mil is 2000 pesos which is a bit less than 50 cents US.

[Mr Enternational]

How do you get that? 2 mil is 2000 pesos which is a bit less than 50 cents US.Ok. 48 cents if you insist on spiltting hairs.

[Explorer8939]

How do you get that? 2 mil is 2000 pesos which is a bit less than 50 cents US.Correct.

2 mil = 2,000 pesos.

= 50 cents US.

[Turgid]

Think smart, you should fill out the Check-mig instead of BioMig.Learn. The Biomig system simplifies entry and exit from a country by allowing foreign nationals to register their Iris into a system. Its a generic way of referring to the Colombian CheckMig.

[Yuvaraj]

Great first step by staying in Hotel M for the first visit. Honestly, for a short trip like this, I will not bank on Seeking or F / be unless you have somebody referring you or you have seen the girl personally before because many girls there are either going to be scammers or time wasters. So for a short trip this like, I would stick with bar next to your hotel, well established casas or Lleras park (bring the girl back to your hotel). Enjoy and be safe!


Hi all, I'm a new member who will be visiting Colombia in October. Firstly, thank you all for your contributions. This thread is so insightful. I've read the last 200 pages and really appreciate the information provided. I will provide a full report of my trip, during and after.

I'm staying at Hotel M from the 3rd of October until the 6th and then again from the 10th of October until the 14th. I will be going to Cartagena in the interim. If any of you are around during that period, I definitely owe you a drink so feel free to contact me.

I joined seeking but generally found the prices quoted really high, and often in usd. I've got some numbers, and in the spirit of giving back: contact me.

I'm going to use the high end strip clubs and PL bars (gustos) to get numbers for daytime action, if the price is right. I'll also visit Centro in the daytime, with my head down, no watch in sight and dressed simply!

Regarding Centro and specifically the advice given not to visit at night, how does this work with the strip clubs? For example Barra E which doesn't open until later? Playmates opens at 2 pm but I was wondering, with reference to Barra E and the other Centro strip clubs, do you just Uber straight there and when done, straight back, like door to door? Ideally I want to sample Barra E but if the common consensus is to avoid them so be it, due the opening times being in the evening.

[Nounce]

Learn. The Biomig system simplifies entry and exit from a country by allowing foreign nationals to register their Iris into a system. Its a generic way of referring to the Colombian CheckMig.I am not sure what you are saying. According the official website, they are not the same. If you read the instruction on Biomig, you pass thru a scanner during entry and one question it will ask is Check-mig. Biomig is available to foreigners on departure at certain airports, and no registration is required when leaving. That is my experience. It may not be available to for entry by foreigners yet.

[Dcrist0527]

I've been to MDE enough to know they love their holidays and much of the city is shut down. I'm taking another trip, essentially a really long weekend in MDE, but from Oct 11 through 15. Only today did I think to check national holidays. Columbus Day is listed both Saturday and Monday. Columbus Day in the US is kind of a minor major holiday so I'm curious what it's like in Medellin.

I've made the holiday mistake before. For some reason, I have a habit of visiting on election day too, which is even worse.

[LoveItHere69]

When I travel I mind my own business and let their authorities do their job.


Hotel Boulevar Botero there is a bald short Israeli guy. Third floor left window room been there for 3+ years. Does drugs (no idea what ones), likes young girls, and hangs with the drug dealers that hang in the alleyway on the side of the church. Most of the foreigner "rats" do not like him at all. One guy in particular likes just about everyone BUT that Israeli guy so that says something. I hate the guy too. Pretty sure he is there illegally. If what the girls says is true it will eventually blow up and make ALL foreigners look bad. If I was there I would have a local make a certain "complaint". I know he is in on it one way or another.Looks like the authorities did their job. I can tell by the way he dresses, hoodie jacket, walk, water bottle he always has in his hand, blurred out head shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvUNlhcda30

[Giz99]

I've been to MDE enough to know they love their holidays and much of the city is shut down. I'm taking another trip, essentially a really long weekend in MDE, but from Oct 11 through 15. Only today did I think to check national holidays. Columbus Day is listed both Saturday and Monday. Columbus Day in the US is kind of a minor major holiday so I'm curious what it's like in Medellin.

I've made the holiday mistake before. For some reason, I have a habit of visiting on election day too, which is even worse.It is a big holiday in the US but it is not a holiday in Colombia although you may see more tourists. Countries don't normal celebrate the day they were conquered.

[JohnnieCash]

Looks like the authorities did their job. I can tell by the way he dresses, hoodie jacket, walk, water bottle he always has in his hand, blurred out head shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvUNlhcda30Yep, I recognize that guy as well. He was lucky they just deported him and not sent him to Colombian jail.

https://x.com/Julian_VasquezP/status/1837610633279262828

[Dcrist0527]

It is a big holiday in the US but it is not a holiday in Colombia although you may see more tourists. Countries don't normal celebrate the day they were conquered.At the risk of being argumentative, it is a holiday in Colombia, called DIA de Colon. And it is designated as a national holiday. My question was really around closures. I did reach out to a few of my favorite establishments and found out they will be closed on the 14th. Poor planning on my part. I'm considering plan b.

[Mr Enternational]

Columbus Day is listed both Saturday and Monday. Columbus Day in the US is kind of a minor major holiday so I'm curious what it's like in Medellin.That was a thing started in the 20th century USA by Italian immigrants trying to give themselves some pride. No other country (even Italy and now way less Americans) gives a shit about Columbus.

[Nil Admirari]

It is a big holiday in the US but it is not a holiday in Colombia although you may see more tourists. Countries don't normal celebrate the day they were conquered.

This post probably belongs in the "Stupid Shit" thread, but a little historical perspective is due here. At the risk of belaboring the obvious, the country is named after the navigator Cristbal Colón (Chris Colombus) himself. Since early in the 20th century, most Latin American countries have, in fact, had an annual holiday celebrating the discovery of America by Colombus. In Colombia it has been "El día de la Raza y de la Hispanidad" ("Day of the Race and Hispanicity").

It's only with the advent of wokeness (not just in the US) over the past 25 years or so that the holiday has declined in importance, or has been replaced with celebrations of indigenous culture and diversity. In 2021 Colombia's Ministry of Culture changed the name of the holiday to 'El Día de la Diversidad Étnica y Cultural de la Nación Colombiana (meaning "Day of Ethnical and Cultural Diversity of the Colombian nation" A number of US states have done something similar or dropped the holiday altogether. However, you're right that the holiday has always been, and remains, somewhat more celebrated in the US of A, due most likely to its sizable Italian-American population.

[Dcrist0527]

That was a thing started in the 20th century USA by Italian immigrants trying to give themselves some pride. No other country (even Italy and now way less Americans) gives a shit about Columbus.Thanks for the political diatribe. Only in the Medellin forum can we take a fairly innocuous question and turn it into something polarizing.

To those that are hyper-sensitive to the politics of the holiday, my apologies. My intent was not to melt snowflakes. But apparently, some in Colombia do give a shit. I've reached out to three businesses in Medellin and they're closed that Monday.

[Bango Cheito]

This post probably belongs in the "Stupid Shit" thread, but a little historical perspective is due here. At the risk of belaboring the obvious, the country is named after the navigator Cristbal Coln (Chris Colombus) himself. Since early in the 20th century, most Latin American countries have, in fact, had an annual holiday celebrating the discovery of America by Colombus. In Colombia it has been "El da de la Raza y de la Hispanidad" ("Day of the Race and Hispanicity").

It's only with the advent of wokeness (not just in the US) over the past 25 years or so that the holiday has declined in importance, or has been replaced with celebrations of indigenous culture and diversity. In 2021 Colombia's Ministry of Culture changed the name of the holiday to 'El Da de la Diversidad tnica y Cultural de la Nacin Colombiana (meaning "Day of Ethnical and Cultural Diversity of the Colombian nation" A number of US states have done something similar or dropped the holiday altogether. However, you're right that the holiday has always been, and remains, somewhat more celebrated in the US of A, due most likely to its sizable Italian-American population.This is correct, and it ABSOLUTELY is still a holiday here!

[Gabacho]

It is a big holiday in the US but it is not a holiday in Colombia although you may see more tourists. Countries don't normal celebrate the day they were conquered.Absolutely incorrect. I was there the whole month of October last year and I clearly remember it was celebrated as a puente holiday which means from Friday to Monday things were closed like on a Sunday.

They call it DIA de la Raza.

[LoveItHere69]

Did I screw up. Colombus Day.You sure did screw up (by asking a simple question)! You were so lucky to receive comments about Colombus Day not being important in the USA and Italy, reminder that it IS indeed a holiday, and a history lesson. But all you really wanted to know was what percentage of businesses would be closed versus open during that time. More specifically the brothels, spas, clubs, and restaurants. Sadly, I do not have the answer. Just shocked by the stupid replies. Lucky you. You are still at square one.

[Knowledge]

I separated the DIA de la Raza to cover your question. Use the rest for future reference.

The following are public holidays in Colombia:

Año Nuevo / (New Year's Day) (January 1: blue laws, which prohibit working on that day, apply).

Theía de LOS Reyes Magos / (Epiphany) (January 6).

Theía de San José / (Saint Joseph's Day) (March 19).

Jueves Santo / (Maundy Thursday) (Thursday before Easter Sunday, variable dates in March or April).

Viernes Santo (Good Friday) (Friday before Easter Sunday, variable dates in March or April).

Primero de Mayo / (Labour Day) (May 1: blue laws apply).

Ascensióand del señor / (Ascension Day) (39 days after Easter Sunday).

Corpus Christi (60 days after Easter Sunday).

Sagrado Corazóand /(Sacred Heart) (68 days after Easter Sunday).

San Pedro why San Pablo / Saint Peter and Saint Paul) (June 29).

Declaracióand de la Independencia de Colombia / Declaration of Independence (July 20: blue laws apply).

Battle of Boyaca (August 7).

La Asuncióand / (Assumption Day) (August 15).

Theía de la Raza / (Columbus Day) (October 12).

Theía de LOS Santos / All Saints' Day (November 1).

Independencia de Cartagena / Independence of Cartagena (November 11).

La Inmaculada Concepcióand (Immaculate Conception) (December 8).

Navidad (Christmas Day) (December 25: blue laws apply).

The following are considered holidays only in the city of Barranquilla:

Monday of Carnival (48 days before Easter Sunday or 2 days before Ash Wednesday.).

Tuesday of Carnival (47 days before Easter Sunday or the day before Ash Wednesday.).

[SlapShot10]

Another dumbfuck has stirred up a shit storm. Some "photographer" is all over social media because he took advantage of and beat up a local "influencer" / "model" . As most of you know, every Paisa thinks she is an influencer and model. So, it's being circulated like a wild fire. Unfortunately, the chick said something like, "Gringos come down here and think they can do whatever they want with our bodies. " Poor girl but I see these types coming from a mile away. Due to the living status of most chicks, they almost can't say no to a million peso work day. They overlook all the red flags and unknowingly put themselves at risk. A year or so ago I warned my ex about this exact guy, telling her it's all bullshit. Anyway, the girl said it happened early to mid August, she filed a report after going to the hospital, and nothing has been done. A quick check on Instagram or Tik Tok will likely bring it up, but everything I've seen is in Spanish (for those who don't speak it).

Stay safe out there. The authorities will be forced to act / respond, and every time an idiot gringo does something dumb, the locals pardon 1000 uncles of their previous sins. Hopefully no one in this group has anything more to worry about then some gringo discrimination, but if you do, I hope you get what you deserve.

Cheers!

[Fun Luvr]

Unfortunately, the chick said something like, "Gringos come down here and think they can do whatever they want with our bodies. " That is true in many instances.

[Chicago85]

Just FYI the going rate there is about 80 k COP.

2 mil tip is customary in those clubs.

Cheers.It's gone up, no? I'm pretty sure it hasn't been that cheap for full service in a while.

[Chicago85]

How did you get your favorite girl you regularly see to go raw? I've noticed most will after a few dates. Even gustos girls if they like you. Regular tinder dates and regular girls you pick up normally are 100% raw in my experience not once have they even mentioned a condom. At clubs like gustos or fase dos I don't look for BBFS due to obvious high mileage. And from what I've heard from friends most don't at gustos.

However my two fave / regulars which I take out from gustos quite often. They have let me go bare. These are top gustos chicks, they arrive at midnight and within 30 minutes they got a guy for 300 dollars toda la noche. They are friends you frequenters would recognize them immediately.

First chick, white Latina, huge fake double the tits, great face, clearly goes to the gym. Pretty face. I've been seeing her for three years.

Met her, took her out from gustos about 6-7 times the first month I met her, I would always buy her a drink even when I take out other girls. We were at my place making out and I just asked "you're so sexy can we go bare?" I'm in my 20's, work out, fluent in Spanish. She looks me up and down hesitantly, I can tell she is considering it, we've had fun together. She gives me the classic, "are you clean? " of course baby, she says " I never do that so I'm clean to I just want to be safe" I say what if I give you a little extra, I offer 200 mil more she says okay "only because it's you"..

..,,Anyways that's how I got my favorite gustos regulars to go raw.That was a novel LOL.

First, I haven't been to Gusto's since 2018 or so, but I am surprised that it's now $250-$300 starting and so many guys are paying that. I remember when it was $60-$80 not long ago! Maybe $100-$120 all night and theyd stay until noon. Also, it's one thing to pay that if you're visiting for a 3 day weekend and another when you live there and can visit so many other venues. I encourage you to explore.

Second, I wouldn't think it's very hard to get a girl to go bare for a 200 k ($50) upcharge. That's a total score of $300-$350 (including original fee) for them! The working mothers need it for their kids. The forum can attest. If you're still in your 20s that can also add up, but I’m not a monger that will tell another where to spend his coin and Im sure you're doing very well… I just laugh as I see so many ‘$60,000 millionaires’ from the states blowing their money in MDE like there’s no tomorrow.

Last, I would NEVER bust in a girl unless older and clipped. Even if clean, I've heard way too many stories of girls blackmailing guys or having 'accidental' surprises that they were then legally or ethically obligated to support. Just the same as the OnlyFans models trying to get knocked up by NBA and NFL players these days. I can't tell you how many girls have told me they wanted to have my kid after a few dates.

Be careful!

[BlackThought]

Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.Have you hit up any of the casas in Laureles? I booked the Laureles suites and will be staying with my buddy, we are planning to hit up the local casas that are 160-200 k COP, with oral natural for 40-70 k extra.

[Orgasmico]

That was a novel LOL.

First, I haven't been to Gusto's since 2018 or so, but I am surprised that it's now $250-$300 starting and so many guys are paying that. I remember when it was $60-$80 not long ago! Maybe $100-$120 all night and theyd stay until noon. That was before the post C19 digital nomad / creep cam / passport bros / gringo invasion.

[Knowledge]

It's gotten to the point that I go out of my way to avoid foreigners, especially when they go out of their way to engage with me. In the past I was mostly neutral vis a vis foreigners. Lately whenever I've been around foreigners I notice they attract dodgy locals looking to take advantage of them. To see for yourself, have a look at the locals who approach tourists on la 10.


Another dumbfuck has stirred up a shit storm. Some "photographer" is all over social media because he took advantage of and beat up a local "influencer" / "model" . As most of you know, every Paisa thinks she is an influencer and model. So, it's being circulated like a wild fire. Unfortunately, the chick said something like, "Gringos come down here and think they can do whatever they want with our bodies. " Poor girl but I see these types coming from a mile away. Due to the living status of most chicks, they almost can't say no to a million peso work day. They overlook all the red flags and unknowingly put themselves at risk. A year or so ago I warned my ex about this exact guy, telling her it's all bullshit. Anyway, the girl said it happened early to mid August, she filed a report after going to the hospital, and nothing has been done. A quick check on Instagram or Tik Tok will likely bring it up, but everything I've seen is in Spanish (for those who don't speak it).

Stay safe out there. The authorities will be forced to act / respond, and every time an idiot gringo does something dumb, the locals pardon 1000 uncles of their previous sins. Hopefully no one in this group has anything more to worry about then some gringo discrimination, but if you do, I hope you get what you deserve.

Cheers!

[MiamiBoy1]

Have you hit up any of the casas in Laureles? I booked the Laureles suites and will be staying with my buddy, we are planning to hit up the local casas that are 160-200 k COP, with oral natural for 40-70 k extra.I don't do casas, but Energy would be your best bet. It is close to Estadio.

[HumbleHal]

Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.Last time I was there was February. On a Friday night. There were a lot of girls there, but many were large to extra-large and had a lot of tattoos, silicone titties and piercings. Nothing clean and pure like years ago. So I selected one slim girl with no silicone and thought it would be heaven. In the room she started upselling.

400 k for her meant the base price which covered only a few pokes with a condom. No kissing on the lips unless I paid her extra, 100 mil. I could not DATY unless I paid her another 100 K. Took the fun out of it. No BBBJ. Not sure I will be back. I think the girls have all gotten together and formed a union at Loutron. Nothing real or natural anymore.

Might be better to get a girl from Parque Lleras.

[Coupe66]

I've been to Medellin about 6 times for maybe a year with the periods added together, but never bothered with Poblado apart from a daytime walk through once. Been put off by all the scare stories and also assumed the hookers walking around in Parque Lleras were all the skinny skanky types! Tend to stick to online chicas for my action.

Anyway, have been watching quite a few YouTube videos of night time walk throughs there, and have been quite impressed! A lot of very curvy and Afro Colombians than I see in Medellin in general and online too. My types!

So, don't want to get scoped or robbed but maybe a good idea is just hang out there an evening getting numbers and invite one to a secure place on another day where they have to show ID.

What kind of prices are they asking for that these days? I suppose the walking girls are all receptive to giving out their numbers? Who to be more wary of, the ones in groups or the one's alone. I fail to believe that the majority of them there are out to scope and rob the punters, or am I wrong? I'm guessing many are Venezuelans, and the Afro Colombians maybe from the Pacific area and Cali etc too? Also, Provenza is also full of gorgeous talent but seems to be more regular people and tourists. Any working girls walking around there too? Can you trust getting. Taxi / Uber from there at night back to Laureles? Never done it. Thanks a lot on advance for your advice 😊.

[MoonShot]

Poblado has the bars, nightclubs, restaurants and streetwalkers. Everything you need for mongering is in Poblado. It is a good place for new visitors to stay. The downside is that it is a busy noisy place and there are a lot of tourists there. Still for easy access to women, it is a good place to stay. The Park Lleras girls will ask for a lot but you can always negotiate down. People always ask what is the going rate, and I would say that it depends on the girl. Each girl is different and each girl has her own going rate and it depends on the circumstances of that day for her. Just offer what you want to pay and maybe she will accept it.

Laureles has a busy street that has bars, nightclubs and restaurants but it is primarily geared to locals. There are almost no streetwalkers as far as I can tell. There are a few casas within a short Uber ride but they are more expensive than the ones in El Centro.

I have stayed in both places and both are fine. I prefer Laureles because it is more quiet. I prefer girls on Facebook so it doesn't matter where I stay for access to chicas. There are plenty of nice places to eat in Laureles. But if you prefer easy access to girls, it is better for you to stay in Poblado. You can take a Uber over but it takes about 20.

Another option is staying in El Centro. It is more dangerous at night but it does give you easy access to cheap streetwalkers, casas and strip club girls. If that is what you prefer, I think it makes sense for you to stay at the Nutribara Hotel in El Centro and just be careful at night.

[Exoticspirit]

Last time I was there was February. On a Friday night. There were a lot of girls there, but many were large to extra-large and had a lot of tattoos, silicone titties and piercings. Nothing clean and pure like years ago. So I selected one slim girl with no silicone and thought it would be heaven. In the room she started upselling.

400 k for her meant the base price which covered only a few pokes with a condom. No kissing on the lips unless I paid her extra, 100 mil. I could not DATY unless I paid her another 100 K. Took the fun out of it. No BBBJ. Not sure I will be back. I think the girls have all gotten together and formed a union at Loutron. Nothing real or natural anymore.

Might be better to get a girl from Parque Lleras.Thanks for your report on Loutron. I was thinking I might make it there for my next trip in 2 weeks down there just for the experience of mongering in a luxury place and supposedly the top looking girls in the city. But now that I read this, looks like not worth it anymore.

[Coupe66]

Poblado has the bars, nightclubs, restaurants and streetwalkers. Everything you need for mongering is in Poblado. It is a good place for new visitors to stay. The downside is that it is a busy noisy place and there are a lot of tourists there. Still for easy access to women, it is a good place to stay. The Park Lleras girls will ask for a lot but you can always negotiate down. People always ask what is the going rate, and I would say that it depends on the girl. Each girl is different and each girl has her own going rate and it depends on the circumstances of that day for her. Just offer what you want to pay and maybe she will accept it.

Laureles has a busy street that has bars, nightclubs and restaurants but it is primarily geared to locals. There are almost no streetwalkers as far as I can tell. There are a few casas within a short Uber ride but they are more expensive than the ones in El Centro.

I have stayed in both places and both are fine. I prefer Laureles because it is more quiet. I prefer girls on Facebook so it doesn't matter where I stay for access to chicas. There are plenty of nice places to eat in Laureles. But if you prefer easy access to girls, it is better for you to stay in Poblado. You can take a Uber over but it takes about 20.

Another option is staying in El Centro. It is more dangerous at night but it does give you easy access to cheap streetwalkers, casas and strip club girls. If that is what you prefer, I think it makes sense for you to stay at the Nutribara Hotel in El Centro and just be careful at night.Hey Moonshot, I'm not sure if you were replying to my post? I think the most I'd pay one is around 200 K for an hour plus her transport. Online chicas I never paid more than 150 K.

I would only stay there maybe a night to check the place out and get phone numbers, as I wouldn't really trust night time taxis and Ubers from there. I always stay in Laureles Estadio, no way would I stay in Poblado!

Where are the good strip clubs in the centre? Any open daytime? Thanks again.

[MoonShot]

Hey Moonshot, I'm not sure if you were replying to my post? I think the most I'd pay one is around 200 K for an hour plus her transport. Online chicas I never paid more than 150 K.

I would only stay there maybe a night to check the place out and get phone numbers, as I wouldn't really trust night time taxis and Ubers from there. I always stay in Laureles Estadio, no way would I stay in Poblado!

Where are the good strip clubs in the centre? Any open daytime? Thanks again.I didn't want to engage on a discussion on the so-called going rate because there is a difference of opinion and you will get different answers. I only say this, based on my own personal experience with online girls. Yes, you can try to get girls for 150 k and some will accept but you also get a lot of young attractive girls saying that it is too low. 200 k to 300 k plus taxi is the offer that usually gets the most successful.

There are a lot of good strip clubs in El Centro where you can have sex with the girls inside the club for a much lower price but I am not the right person for that type of information.

[Knowledge]

Silicone has always been a star of the show at Loutron.


Thanks for your report on Loutron. I was thinking I might make it there for my next trip in 2 weeks down there just for the experience of mongering in a luxury place and supposedly the top looking girls in the city. But now that I read this, looks like not worth it anymore.

[HumbleHal]

Thanks for your report on Loutron. ... a luxury place and supposedly the top looking girls in the city. I would no longer say it has the top looking girls in the city. A lot of trashy, tattooed and silicone. And a lot of fat asses. You will see a presentation of probably 25 girls and they give you a small notebook and pencil to write down the ones you like.

But nothing like the legend was 10 years ago, but it has ended. I started coming to Medellin in 2003 which is now 20 year ago, before that I went to Cali and visited the matrimonial agencies and Flora Frescas, which was the top club in the 1990's.

10 years ago Loutron had the top girls and individual rooms that had different emphasis and decor. Now you see typical Medellin women, not much Venezuelans. Like I said, I think the girls had a union and its only Colombian women. And they talk about their money making, upcharge, strategies more than we do on this site!

I would recommend Parque Lleras. You can look around, and the Venies are attractive too. Your mileage may vary. I used to visit Abydos on Calle 33, what happened to that? I heard it was owned by the same guy that owned Loutron, and the classier girls worked at Loutron, the normal, yet attractive, lower price girls at Abydos. Any word about Abydos?

[Combo]

I would no longer say it has the top looking girls in the city. A lot of trashy, tattooed and silicone. And a lot of fat asses. You will see a presentation of probably 25 girls and they give you a small notebook and pencil to write down the ones you like.

10 years ago Loutron had the top girls and individual rooms that had different emphasis and decor. Now you see typical Medellin women, not much Venezuelans. Like I said, I think the girls had a union and its only Colombian women. And they talk about their money making, upcharge, strategies more than we do on this site!

I would recommend Parque Lleras. You can look around, and the Venies are attractive too. Your mileage may vary. I used to visit Abydos on Calle 33, what happened to that? I heard it was owned by the same guy that owned Loutron, and the classier girls worked at Loutron, the normal, yet attractive, lower price girls at Abydos. Any word about Abydos?Pretty sure Abydos closed a few years back. It was a solid place, similar in quality and experience to Energy in Estadio.

I never understood the appeal of Loutron. Very sterile atmosphere where you couldn't interact with the chicas and when you got to the room, total upsell. One shouldn't pay what they ask for that type of experience. I tried it once in 2010 and was disappointed and tried a few years later and it still sucked.

[Knowledge]

Yes, sadly, Abydos has been gone for more than 10 years. It was a favorite of mine because of its convenient location and superior product. Energy used to be similar. Now it is a rundown shadow of its former self. The rooms and public areas used to be better maintained and the used to be of Abydos quality and better. Now, they are mostly of the quality you find at Centro casas albeit with slightly better grooming. I've written previously about the no name place next door to Energy. It operates as a private motel for indie girls who advertise appointments on mileroticos and photoprepagos, and also as a casa with walk-in and choose from the lineup service. There is much better bang for the buck there than there is at Energy.


Pretty sure Abydos closed a few years back. It was a solid place, similar in quality and experience to Energy in Estadio.

I never understood the appeal of Loutron. Very sterile atmosphere where you couldn't interact with the chicas and when you got to the room, total upsell. One shouldn't pay what they ask for that type of experience. I tried it once in 2010 and was disappointed and tried a few years later and it still sucked.

[Turgid]

........ I used to visit Abydos on Calle 33, what happened to that? I heard it was owned by the same guy that owned Loutron, and the classier girls worked at Loutron, the normal, yet attractive, lower price girls at Abydos. Any word about Abydos?I used to go to Abydos back in the day when fine girls were to be had in casas and Abydos had the best of them. Then Abydos began to decline in quality as did other casas but Abydos decline was also in quantity. In a visit to Medellin, possibly 2016, there were three girls there including an amazing girl called Susan with whom I repeated which was a first for me in Medellin. Then on my last visit that year she was gone and there was one woman there who I would not rate more than 5 and after I declined her the mamasan attempted to charge me 10 K for viewing LOL, that's when I knew they were on their way out. Later I heard they closed down.

[Nounce]

What kind of prices are they asking for that these days? I suppose the walking girls are all receptive to giving out their numbers? …
and the Afro Colombians maybe from the Pacific area and Cali etc too?My experience is that most started at 100 dollar, some would ask 150. You can negotiate them down most of the time. The Afro Colombians I met are all from Medellin. I think there is one particular barrio has more of them. On FB, most are from the same region around Bello. There are more girls from the poor barrios in other part of Medellin at the park.

The Uber is fine.

[PhisherMan2]

Thanks to everyone who has shared reports. I just finished 3 nights in MDE. I stayed in Poblado in an AirBnB called Urban Suites. It's away from the noise but a short walk or Uber to Provenza.

I set up advance dates on Tinder with civilians. I avoided those looking for mutual benefits and the SB crowd. I met each for dinner followed by stops at clubs. I would pick up their cab fare but didn't pay them otherwise.

Day 1 I tried to get an Uber to a casa at 4 pm to do a trio (300 K for an hour) but I couldn't get a ride in time. I ended up a a decent restaurant in Poblado with a 40 yo local. It went ok but I didn't want a one nighter with her and sent her home.

Day 2 was a trip to Parque Arvi and some biking. I hit a casa in between for 30 minutes with BBBJ for 150 k. It was on par with similar places in Panama and Costa Rica. The girl here was early 20's slim an natural.

Day 3 was a crazy 12 hour tour to do zipline, waterfall hike and climbing. I went with a local 30 ish personal trainer I met on tinder. She is fun sized and fit. We spent the night at the apartment. I paid the expenses of the day and gave her a modest silver bracelet. We got along in spite of my crappy Spanish.

I'm making plans to return in November for a weekend away with personal trainer. Overall it was a good first visit to scope the place out. I felt safe everywhere except Centro. I spent one evening in Provenza but that scene is not for me.

Tinder worked for me. All 3 showed up and each was cool with meeting again if I wanted. I had a million hits on seeking but I hate that mindset where you are paying her a salary even for the first meeting.

[HumbleHal]

I never understood the appeal of Loutron. Very sterile atmosphere where you couldn't interact with the chicas and when you got to the room, total upsell.Last few times I have been to Loutron I noticed a soft spot in the floor, right before the reception desk. Thought I would fall thru, like a trap door. The plywood and sub floor is extremely soft in front of the desk, probably from too many heavy Americanos standing there! LOL Anybody else notice that spot in the floor? The building used to be a mansion, now the whole concept has gone trashy. But it is nice to see the 25 available women parade in front of me, for my selection!

[Coupe66]

My experience is that most started at 100 dollar, some would ask 150. You can negotiate them down most of the time. The Afro Colombians I met are all from Medellin. I think there is one particular barrio has more of them. On FB, most are from the same region around Bello. There are more girls from the poor barrios in other part of Medellin at the park.

The Uber is fine.Wow, 100 USD for an hour is definitely gringo pricing! The average internet lady in Medellin charges around 150 K (36 USD) pesos an hour, the most gorgeous ones say 250 K (60 USD). I can have a nice looking hooker here in Europe for 100 USD! Will go check them out anyway, most I'd offer one who I found stunning would be 250 K. Are you sure the Afro Colombians you met are from Medellin, or is that just what they said ? Have been to Medellin many times and the Afro Colombians make up maybe 5 % of the people I see around. I'm sure many I've seen in Parque Lleras videos are from further afield, like Choco, Cali and Venezuela too.

[MateoCast98]

That was a novel LOL.

First, I haven't been to Gusto's since 2018 or so, but I am surprised that it's now $250-$300 starting and so many guys are paying that. I remember when it was $60-$80 not long ago! Maybe $100-$120 all night and theyd stay until noon. Also, it's one thing to pay that if you're visiting for a 3 day weekend and another when you live there and can visit so many other venues. I encourage you to explore.

Second, I wouldn't think it's very hard to get a girl to go bare for a 200 k ($50) upcharge. That's a total score of $300-$350 (including original fee) for them! The working mothers need it for their kids. The forum can attest. If you're still in your 20s that can also add up, but Im not a monger that will tell another where to spend his coin and Im sure you're doing very well I just laugh as I see so many $60,000 millionaires from the states blowing their money in MDE like theres no tomorrow.

Last, I would NEVER bust in a girl unless older and clipped. Even if clean, I've heard way too many stories of girls blackmailing guys or having 'accidental' surprises that they were then legally or ethically obligated to support. Just the same as the OnlyFans models trying to get knocked up by NBA and NFL players these days. I can't tell you how many girls have told me they wanted to have my kid after a few dates.

Be careful!I must specify these are top girls who probably make about 300 dollars plus, 4-5 times a week which is a lot in Medellin. Especially since it's all cash, and not one of them pays taxes on it. And they all have at least one guy in love with them, that buys them their phone, clothes etc. Thus, I think 50 dollars is on the low end for BBFS creampie. I have a buddy, tall white average looking dude, he was telling me he offered some gustos chicks an extra 200 dollars on top of the 300 $ toda la noche and they wouldn't budge on the no condom. I think for the hardened pros in Gustos it's not that easy, especially the top girls who like I said make a lot already.

That being said, of course the circumstances matter, if a girls mom / kid is sick / bills are piling up etc. Then she is for sure more willing to accept, or if you look like Jason Mamoa obvi.

For top colombian insta models / onlyfans / webcam chicks / semi-influencers, you have to play the long game to fuck raw. I have super rich buddies that take these girls out and stupidly / impatiently. Try to go raw on the first date and it completely turns the chick off and make her not want to see you again a high percentage of the time also she will tell all her friends you asked. Or you just won't ever go raw with her because she now thinks you ask every single girl that on the first date, even on subsequent dates. The two chicks I mentioned as well as some regular girls I met off tinder have said the same. "We went to dinner had so much fun, having some drinks, I'm down to fuck, and he has to ruin it and ask if he can sin condon".

For this super hot DJ I was following for a like two years, I finally got her to respond to a DM on insta with a sugar baby offer. Invited her to dinner, we had some followers in common so she cross-referenced me. That mutual friend told me she asked about me. That If I knew her and was I real / cool / legit etc. So be aware not to brush anyone the wrong way.

Go on a great dinner date establish a rate and go back to my place. We're making out, I'm fingering her she's drenched. I'm like 85% sure I can go raw either by asking or just slipping it in while kissing. But I want to 100% creampie this chick. So I play the long game. I take a step back, put on a condom and bend her over. I'm watching her out of the corner of my eye while I do this. I can see a little smile. (at a later date she told me she liked that I respected her and her health on our first date, and how so many guys try to go raw) She perks up bends over and spreads for me. I fuck her she's loving it. I am too even with the bag we finish and all go home happy.

Fast forward to the next weekend, we had chatted a bunch all week, she agrees to come over and watch a movie on a Saturday. I'm giving her the full BF treatment, I make us drinks while I cook these signature little burgers, I just copy Gordon Ramsey's video on youtube. I got it down to a T. She's super impressed and LOVES the burgers. We're watching Jon wick.

Again I'm trying to be cool and more like BF. Not a guy that just wants to bang her and give her cash. She puts her leg on mine, I'm feeling her legs we give each other little pecks on the cheeks here and there. She's wearing this little white floral dress, almost like a teddy. As I feel her legs up and raise her dress up a bit, I notice she's not wearing any panties. Super hot, she gives me a little smile. I eat her out until she cums, which is like 6 minutes. We both start to undress, she give a quick BJ But I just want to fuck. She's on all 4's on the bed giving me head while I'm standing off to the side. I push her away for a second, I reach for a new box of condoms on the nightstand. As I'm unwrapping and pulling one out of the box. She puts her hand over mine, shakes her head and says "no". Ladies and gentlemen that might be the top 3 hardest I've ever been in my life. At that moment I wanted to shove it in and go to town, I would have lasted a total of 30 seconds for sure. But Again trying to be cool (I do not want her telling her friends I'm a one pump chump) and a bit more cute and innocent. Make her feel special.

I pull her in close for a kiss and go "Esta bien bebe?" Is it okay baby? She responds with "Yo confio en ti" I trust you.

I lay her back, I'm rubbing my dick on her clit, she's squirming and going crazy, the dirty talk ensues. It's better this way right? She squirms and squeaks out a "Siii".

I've had a lot of raw pussy, in terms of pure feeling she was alright, but she's insanely hot so the visuals of her made up for the average feeling pussy.

While fucking I kept whispering in her ear if she wanted this on the first date. She says yes, I liked that you didn't ask for it. I respond Would you have let me? She goes, if you asked first, no, but had you pulled out and just slipped off the condom in front of me, then went back in, I wouldn't have said anything.

She's going crazy, saying how she loves the feel. She practically got her tongue in my esophagus. She starts saying she's going to cum. That pushes me over the edge. She starts saying "cum in my pussy daddy" in Spanish of course. I painted every square inch of her walls. I go to pull out she crosses her legs and says she wants to stay like that a little while. She held me for ten minutes while we just talked and kissed. I went fully soft in her.

At a certain point she said let's shower, I say not yet, and start pumping again. She's like wait let me clean up first I'm all yucky. I say NO, she blushes and gets all embarrassed, saying it's dirty, but that's how I like it. We've destroyed the sheets, She's leaking out and creaming all over me. She looks down and goes bright red. When she sees my dick churning her up. I kiss her and tell her I like her, get another creampie and we finally clean up.

Have never worn a condom with her since. I have similar stories for most top girls like that. If I'm not too interested in her I will try to go bare on the first date. If I really want to raw-dog her, I'll play the long game.

To be honest with some of the top girls like the DJ, Honestly might sound crazy, but fuck it I can't resist creampieing them (all the chicks I creampie are smokeshows.). Every fiber of my being wants too. I understand the risk. If she got pregnant oh well, a super hot baby mama isn't the worst thing in this world, now an ugly one on the other hand.

[MoonShot]

Wow, 100 USD for an hour is definitely gringo pricing! The average internet lady in Medellin charges around 150 K (36 USD) pesos an hour, the most gorgeous ones say 250 K (60 USD). I can have a nice looking hooker here in Europe for 100 USD! Will go check them out anyway, most I'd offer one who I found stunning would be 250 K. Are you sure the Afro Colombians you met are from Medellin, or is that just what they said ? Have been to Medellin many times and the Afro Colombians make up maybe 5 % of the people I see around. I'm sure many I've seen in Parque Lleras videos are from further afield, like Choco, Cali and Venezuela too.Wouldn't we all like to live in a world where you can find stunning girls, which I would think would be 9's and 10's, for 250 k. And while you are at it, why not try for all night for that 250 k? For guys who say they are getting 9's and 10's in Medellin for 250 k, I would say that you need to look at the pictures of these so-called stunners willing to accept 250 k and it just might be a difference of opinon as to what qualifies as a stunningly beautiful girl and then it makes more sense.

[Knowledge]

Your description is more in line with the Medellin I know. That said, in every case YMMV.


Wow, 100 USD for an hour is definitely gringo pricing! The average internet lady in Medellin charges around 150 K (36 USD) pesos an hour, the most gorgeous ones say 250 K (60 USD). I can have a nice looking hooker here in Europe for 100 USD! Will go check them out anyway, most I'd offer one who I found stunning would be 250 K. Are you sure the Afro Colombians you met are from Medellin, or is that just what they said ? Have been to Medellin many times and the Afro Colombians make up maybe 5 % of the people I see around. I'm sure many I've seen in Parque Lleras videos are from further afield, like Choco, Cali and Venezuela too.

[Gabacho]

Your description is more in line with the Medellin I know. That said, in every case YMMV.Yea I agree as well about 150 k is the going rate. $200 - $300 usd is absurd. I don't care if the hoe looks. Like Miss Venezuela she's not getting that kind of money out of me. I wouldn't even want to talk to a stick up ***** like the ones Mateo is describing that is not what Medellin is about.

[MateoCast98]

That was a novel LOL.

First, I haven't been to Gusto's since 2018 or so, but I am surprised that it's now $250-$300 starting and so many guys are paying that. I remember when it was $60-$80 not long ago! Maybe $100-$120 all night and theyd stay until noon. Also, it's one thing to pay that if you're visiting for a 3 day weekend and another when you live there and can visit so many other venues. I encourage you to explore.

Second, I wouldn't think it's very hard to get a girl to go bare for a 200 k ($50) upcharge. That's a total score of $300-$350 (including original fee) for them! The working mothers need it for their kids. The forum can attest. If you're still in your 20s that can also add up, but Im not a monger that will tell another where to spend his coin and Im sure you're doing very well I just laugh as I see so many $60,000 millionaires from the states blowing their money in MDE like theres no tomorrow. Forgot to add what the first girl looks like, she looks very much like Justinejuicyy on insta.

[MiamiBoy1]

Wouldn't we all like to live in a world where you can find stunning girls, which I would think would be 9's and 10's, for 250 k. And while you are at it, why not try for all night for that 250 k? For guys who say they are getting 9's and 10's in Medellin for 250 k, I would say that you need to look at the pictures of these so-called stunners willing to accept 250 k and it just might be a difference of opinon as to what qualifies as a stunningly beautiful girl and then it makes more sense.I agree. Any young girl would be a 9 or 10 if you are sex deprived average John from Oklahoma who finally divorced his 300 lbs whale wife. Some guys here need a reality check.

[MiamiBoy1]

Yea I agree as well about 150 k is the going rate. $200 - $300 usd is absurd. I don't care if the hoe looks. Like Miss Venezuela she's not getting that kind of money out of me. I wouldn't even want to talk to a stick up ***** like the ones Mateo is describing that is not what Medellin is about.150 k is the going rate for the fuglies you fuck. And yes, you have a reputation of fucking fuglies, midgets, diseased, etc. Just accept the fact that 200-300 usd is unaffordable for you. 300 usd is twice the amount you pay for rent per month.

[Gabacho]

150 k is the going rate for the fuglies you fuck. And yes, you have a reputation of fucking fuglies, midgets, diseased, etc. Just accept the fact that 200-300 usd is unaffordable for you. 300 usd is twice the amount you pay for rent per month.It's not that I can't afford to pay $300 usd, you idiot. It's that I'd rather use that money to make investments like the KO dividend stock I just purchased in my Fidelity app.

And by the way it's more than twice my monthly rent for my apartment in Medellin, I pay $540 k COP per month which is $128.57 usd at the current exchange rate. Since when did keeping my expenses low and disposable income high become a bad thing?

[MateoCast98]

150 k is the going rate for the fuglies you fuck. And yes, you have a reputation of fucking fuglies, midgets, diseased, etc. Just accept the fact that 200-300 usd is unaffordable for you. 300 usd is twice the amount you pay for rent per month.I've only had a handful of girls I would consider pretty for 200-300 k. And this is because I met them through acquaintances. Two of them were a sister and a cousin of a girl I was seeing. They Dmd me after seeing what I was doing for their sister / cousin etc. I would have paid 400 k-500 k easy for each, but I low-balled them since they didn't know any better. Essentially take them to eat, then fuck BBFS creampie.

I would be hard pressed to see anything I want to bang under 400 k it's like mining for gold. As an example I don't find any of the Saturday night parque Lleras streetwalkers attractive. I might see one I like in a blue moon. But I still almost never pick them, much better options out there. My standard grandfathered rates are between 400-600 k for most of my roster. That's at least two hours and BBFS.

For super top chicks I'm meeting for the first time they can charge between 700 k 1 hour to - 2 millon minimum (4 hours included) and I would say that's on the lower end, because I'm younger, dress well etc and get these connects through mutuals.

These are all chick with onlyfans or like 50 k-800 k on insta. You see the lifestyle they live and understand why it's this price. Their BF just bought them a Macbook air and a gold chain on their weekend trip to San Andres. You think you're going to bang girls of that caliber for 200 k?? I've seen one of these chicks turn down a fat old dude offering 2000 usd for a few hours at a hotel. She showed me the messages the guy was legit. I think it's funny how dudes talk about 9's and 10's for 100 k in el centro. Just ignore them, they always say its subjective, but you are spot on, it's old dudes who have never banged truely beautiful women. A 3/10 19 yo chick is a 10'10 to some fat bald dude in his 60's.

[TheDerilious]

I can have a nice looking hooker here in Europe for 100 USD! WTF are you talking about? I may need to expand my experience in Eastern Europe or something, but this is such a big lie that I can't take anything else seriously. I've mongered in London, Rome, FKKs in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, and France and I have never seen any mid-tier, top-tier escort offering $100/ pop. Yes, there exist women in any country that charge bottom-tier prices, but they are not the type of people that mongers sampling foreign cuisine are looking for. People that use arbitrage mechanics through foreign travel are usually folks that are looking for better quality experiences that would normally cost top dollar in their home country. They are generally not hunting for local crack addicts and uglies since that is readily available at bargain bin prices in their locality.

For example, most London escort agencies (mid-tier) are charging 300 pounds per hour. Window girls in Amsterdam might cost like 100 Euros but those are bang / dash joints similar to Centro which would make it majorly overpriced in Colombia. Now, I could be wrong about all of this, I admit. If so, please enlighten all of us to this source of hot hookers in Europe who only charge $100 because I'm sure a lot of us would like to partake.

[MiamiBoy1]

It's not that I can't afford to pay $300 usd, you idiot. It's that I'd rather use that money to make investments like the KO dividend stock I just purchased in my Fidelity app.

And by the way it's more than twice my monthly rent for my apartment in Medellin, I pay $540 k COP per month which is $128.57 usd at the current exchange rate. Since when did keeping my expenses low and disposable income high become a bad thing?Yes, it is exactly what I said. You can't afford a $300 girl. Just like you can't afford a nicer apartment. It is obvious that you want to stretch your limited budget for as long as possible.

And your $300 "investment" is a joke.

[AmorPorFavor]

Forgot to add what the first girl looks like, she looks very much like Justinejuicyy on insta.Justine is fat, wouldn't do her for free.

[Knowledge]

The price debate has run its course. Let's please move on, please and thank you.

[CowboyCheeba]

Met a paisa from photoprepago, heavily photoshopped pics but it was her. Just not supermodel status but very pretty and girl next door vibe.

I don't like to negotiate pricing when we're talking $40-$75 usd for an hour.

Some of you act like you arent penny pinching, but there is a girl for whatever you want to spend.

She comes over 90 min after we agreed even though she wanted to early.

Danced for a while, BBBJ with the best eye contact I could want. All over the boys. Nothing left untouched.

Sex was amazing. Making out, she's gripping, super warm kitty, riding me like a cowgirl. Crazy sensual.

Speak in spanish for a while while I recharge. Then I'm ready and mid convo I just put her hand on me, and she springs into action.

I ask where I can leave my leche, she says wherever you want, so next round was BBBJCIM which was amazing.

Should prob call her again. Agreed to 2 hours plus uber, it was almost 3 hrs.

Now this part gets everyone all flustered. 750 K for the evening.

Thats still under $200 USD for everything I could have asked for. Safe, cool, down to earth sincere chica who wants to please.

I've also had incredible experiences for $250 K an HR, so it exists, and when I think of the average spend amongst the chicas, it's totally reasonable.

Have yet to do lleras so I need to try and scope talent bc Internet chicas are hit or miss looks wise sometimes.

Any one have experience with Malca. Modelos a lacarta? Its a higher end agency.

Definitely curious.

And anybody have tips on how to find girls willing to shoot a "scene" with me?

Most don't want photos or if yes then no face in photos. I knoe some have done full videos here with chicas.

Definitely want some for the memory bank.

[Medclubber]

Wouldn't we all like to live in a world where you can find stunning girls, which I would think would be 9's and 10's, for 250 k. And while you are at it, why not try for all night for that 250 k? For guys who say they are getting 9's and 10's in Medellin for 250 k, I would say that you need to look at the pictures of these so-called stunners willing to accept 250 k and it just might be a difference of opinon as to what qualifies as a stunningly beautiful girl and then it makes more sense.LOL Indeed. Not too long ago I f*cked my first 10. I mean I've had my fair share of hot girls but never felt she was actually a 10, I always felt like the hottest ones were 9's or 9.5's. But not too long ago I met this girl at La Isla and when I laid my eyes on her I knew this was the hottest working girl I've ever seen. Her body and face were just 100% perfect. The sex, as expected, was nothing special but also not super robotic and I was ok with that, her extremely sexy looks and body made up for that. After that we talked about outgoing and she pulled out a printed pricelist out of her purse, LOL, which started at 1.2 million for just an hour. And I'm sure she had enough clients paying that. Also didn't see her after that night again at La Isla.

No way a girl like that is selling her pussy for 250 k LOL.

[MiamiBoy1]

LOL Indeed. Not too long ago I f*cked my first 10. I mean I've had my fair share of hot girls but never felt she was actually a 10, I always felt like the hottest ones were 9's or 9. 5's. But not too long ago I met this girl at La Isla and when I laid my eyes on her I knew this was the hottest working girl I've ever seen. Her body and face were just 100% perfect. The sex, as expected, was nothing special but also not super robotic and I was ok with that, her extremely sexy looks and body made up for that. After that we talked about outgoing and she pulled out a printed pricelist out of her purse, LOL, which started at 1.2 million for just an hour. And I'm sure she had enough clients paying that. Also didn't see her after that night again at La Isla.

No way a girl like that is selling her pussy for 250 k LOL.The thing is true stunners, real 9's and 10's are so scarce even in Colombia. Most of the girls of this caliber are not publicly available for p4 p. So, there is really no market for 9's and 10's, and therefore no going rates. They try to charge whatever they can, and eventually find someone willing to pay that. My understanding is that they would rather prefer an exclusive long term arrangement with 1 wealthy guy (or a few guys) than PPM and fucking multiple strangers. And even if they do PPM, usually it is temporary thing until they find someone who will take care of them financially. You got to be really lucky to catch a 9 or 10 at a place like La Isla or Gusto, or some higher end club in Bogota. What funny is I had a similar experience. I fucked my very first 9 at La Isla back in 2016. The girl had six pack abs and could easily be Sports Illustrated / Playboy model. Sex was just okay, all covered, but that was expected because it is standard at La Isla.

[Coupe66]

WTF are you talking about? I may need to expand my experience in Eastern Europe or something, but this is such a big lie that I can't take anything else seriously. I've mongered in London, Rome, FKKs in Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, and France and I have never seen any mid-tier, top-tier escort offering $100/ pop. Yes, there exist women in any country that charge bottom-tier prices, but they are not the type of people that mongers sampling foreign cuisine are looking for. People that use arbitrage mechanics through foreign travel are usually folks that are looking for better quality experiences that would normally cost top dollar in their home country. They are generally not hunting for local crack addicts and uglies since that is readily available at bargain bin prices in their locality.

For example, most London escort agencies (mid-tier) are charging 300 pounds per hour. Window girls in Amsterdam might cost like 100 Euros but those are bang / dash joints similar to Centro which would make it majorly overpriced in Colombia. Now, I could be wrong about all of this, I admit. If so, please enlighten all of us to this source of hot hookers in Europe who only charge $100 because I'm sure a lot of us would like to partake.Like I said, I mainly partake in chicas who advertise online in Colombia on sites such as Prepagos and Mileroticos. Some are gorgeous, most charge around 130 - 150 K per hour, NONE charge more than 250 K. So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that? If they're sexy and you want to screw them is all that matters! I guess many guys who go to Lleras etc can't speak Spanish either. Any hooker in Colombia who straight off speaks English to me, I would run a mile from!

So anyway, this has enlightened me more to why I probably wouldn't like Lleras. It's only sex after all and I'm not interested in paying more than their monthly rent for an hour of sex!

Re. Europe, you're quoting some of the most expensive cities such as London. OK, so actually slightly more than 100 USD these days in Belgium, more like 80 for 30 minutes and 130 an hour for an internet lady. And Germany is even cheaper than Belgium, as salaries are lower. And if you see ones that cost more online in Belgium or Germany, you're looking at the wrong websites. The ones full of fake photos, supposed models and porn stars etc. They're the worst. Same goes for Colombia.

So why the hell would I pay more in a country like Colombia (where salaries are 1/10th of Belgium if they're lucky!) than I would in Belgium or Germany ?

Mentioning Eastern Europe, I used to work and monger in Budapest. I had some of the most gorgeous hookers there and best sex in my life for peanuts, like 20 - 30 an hour for the best looking internet ladies. But that was 10 years back, now they're still relatively cheap but quantity & quality has gone way down.

So anyway, I'll check out Lleras, but if I get quoted amounts I deem crazy for a poorish country where availability is plentiful, I'll just walk on.

[Gabacho]

And your $300 "investment" is a joke.I think, and I'm sure many others would agree, that the real joke is you spending $300 for an hour of sex. Poof it's gone.

[Gabacho]

Like I said, I mainly partake in chicas who advertise online in Colombia on sites such as Prepagos and Mileroticos. Some are gorgeous, most charge around 130 - 150 K per hour, NONE charge more than 250 K. So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that? If they're sexy and you want to screw them is all that matters! I guess many guys who go to Lleras etc can't speak Spanish either. Any hooker in Colombia who straight off speaks English to me, I would run a mile from!

So anyway, this has enlightened me more to why I probably wouldn't like Lleras. It's only sex after all and I'm not interested in paying more than their monthly rent for an hour of sex!

Re. Europe, you're quoting some of the most expensive cities such as London. OK, so actually slightly more than 100 USD these days in Belgium, more like 80 for 30 minutes and 130 an hour for an internet lady. And Germany is even cheaper than Belgium, as salaries are lower. And if you see ones that cost more online in Belgium or Germany, you're looking at the wrong websites. The ones full of fake photos, supposed models and porn stars etc. They're the worst. Same goes for Colombia.

So why the hell would I pay more in a country like Colombia (where salaries are 1/10th of Belgium if they're lucky!) than I would in Belgium or Germany ?

Mentioning Eastern Europe, I used to work and monger in Budapest. I had some of the most gorgeous hookers there and best sex in my life for peanuts, like 20 - 30 an hour for the best looking internet ladies. But that was 10 years back, now they're still relatively cheap but quantity & quality has gone way down.

So anyway, I'll check out Lleras, but if I get quoted amounts I deem crazy for a poorish country where availability is plentiful, I'll just walk on.No sense talking to these guys that live to overpay. They will never understand anything about the real world.

On another note isn't the cheap place in Europe actually Hungary?

[Bango Cheito]

The thing is true stunners, real 9's and 10's are so scarce even in Colombia. Most of the girls of this caliber are not publicly available for p4 p. So, there is really no market for 9's and 10's, and therefore no going rates. They try to charge whatever they can, and eventually find someone willing to pay that. My understanding is that they would rather prefer an exclusive long term arrangement with 1 wealthy guy (or a few guys) than PPM and fucking multiple strangers. And even if they do PPM, usually it is temporary thing until they find someone who will take care of them financially. You got to be really lucky to catch a 9 or 10 at a place like La Isla or Gusto, or some higher end club in Bogota. What funny is I had a similar experience. I fucked my very first 9 at La Isla back in 2016. The girl had six pack abs and could easily be Sports Illustrated / Playboy model. Sex was just okay, all covered, but that was expected because it is standard at La Isla.If she's got a six pack she'd never be higher than a 6 in my book. Throw the poor thing a sandwich or something!

If you're paying like $300-400 USD honestly you may as well just stay in the US already!

[Zeos1]

Like I said, I mainly partake in chicas who advertise online in Colombia on sites such as Prepagos and Mileroticos. Some are gorgeous, most charge around 130 - 150 K per hour, NONE charge more than 250 K. So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that? If they're sexy and you want to screw them is all that matters! I guess many guys who go to Lleras etc can't speak Spanish either. Any hooker in Colombia who straight off speaks English to me, I would run a mile from!

So anyway, this has enlightened me more to why I probably wouldn't like Lleras. It's only sex after all and I'm not interested in paying more than their monthly rent for an hour of sex!

Re. Europe, you're quoting some of the most expensive cities such as London. OK, so actually slightly more than 100 USD these days in Belgium, more like 80 for 30 minutes and 130 an hour for an internet lady. And Germany is even cheaper than Belgium, as salaries are lower. And if you see ones that cost more online in Belgium or Germany, you're looking at the wrong websites. The ones full of fake photos, supposed models and porn stars etc. They're the worst. Same goes for Colombia.

So why the hell would I pay more in a country like Colombia (where salaries are 1/10th of Belgium if they're lucky!) than I would in Belgium or Germany ?

Mentioning Eastern Europe, I used to work and monger in Budapest. I had some of the most gorgeous hookers there and best sex in my life for peanuts, like 20 - 30 an hour for the best looking internet ladies. But that was 10 years back, now they're still relatively cheap but quantity & quality has gone way down.

So anyway, I'll check out Lleras, but if I get quoted amounts I deem crazy for a poorish country where availability is plentiful, I'll just walk on.The chicas on 10th and in Lleras and nearby will be expecting more than you are used to, that is virtually certain. But not a bad evening to take in the scenery, relax on a patio or two, get something to eat on the closed off street in Provenza, and maybe get some numbers as you say. Some may consider your price range to come to see you or whatever. But be very careful. Many of these gals are outfitted with the drug kit that they can use if they get the opportunity. They drug the client, call their contact, let the contact (s) in and collect their reward, and the contact takes care of the dirty work. Or they take part. You get the picture. And that happens in Laureles as well. I think the body count is well over 40 this year, and those are the very small minority of those druggings that result in death. There are hundreds, possibly thousands, that are robberies. So especially when you are in your own place in private never have an open drink, and preferably have building security that takes pictures of their cedulas, and preferably checks with you when the girl leaves to be sure you are ok. Anyway, you are likely familiar with all of that if you date chicas off social media. Tinder is the worst apparently.

[Medclubber]

If you're paying like $300-400 USD honestly you may as well just stay in the US already!If you spend that kind of money on some random Lleras girl, of course. But if you spend it on a girl that could easily model for playboy, like we're talking about, you won't get that for $300 in the USA. Starts at $1000+ an hour.

I don't like Lleras myself, don't like the talent here, most girls there I wouldn't even f*ck for free. Let alone el centro like Gabacho visits to pick up some random stinking animal and proudly posts here how little money he paid.

It's literally the difference between eating at Mc Donalds and Joel Robuchon. If you think spending $500 on a meal there sounds stupid, then that's perfectly fine, enjoy your $5 hamburger. But don't tell me life is better that way. To each their own.

[Jimbox]

Has anyone ever wondered what happened to "Osteoknot"? He used to be a prolific poster here and has not made an appearance since over 2 years ago.His stories were incredibly entertaining. I stopped reading ISG reports after he disappeared. I hope he's okay. I always felt he was pushing the limits by venturing into places even most Colombians wouldn't dare to go.

His stories were highly entertaining. I stopped reading his reports after he disappeared. I hope he is ok. I always thought he was pushing it to the limit by going places than a Colombian would dare of going.

[Coupe66]

The chicas on 10th and in Lleras and nearby will be expecting more than you are used to, that is virtually certain. But not a bad evening to take in the scenery, relax on a patio or two, get something to eat on the closed off street in Provenza, and maybe get some numbers as you say. Some may consider your price range to come to see you or whatever. But be very careful. Many of these gals are outfitted with the drug kit that they can use if they get the opportunity. They drug the client, call their contact, let the contact (s) in and collect their reward, and the contact takes care of the dirty work. Or they take part. You get the picture. And that happens in Laureles as well. I think the body count is well over 40 this year, and those are the very small minority of those druggings that result in death. There are hundreds, possibly thousands, that are robberies. So especially when you are in your own place in private never have an open drink, and preferably have building security that takes pictures of their cedulas, and preferably checks with you when the girl leaves to be sure you are ok. Anyway, you are likely familiar with all of that if you date chicas off social media. Tinder is the worst apparently.Thanks for your advice. I'm probably just feeling horny in Europe seeing the videos of Lleras etc, once I get there I'll be sensible. Never done anything dumb before there, not about to start now. Don't date any chicks from social media. Going to see one advertised as a hooker online with her photo & address, or at a Casa with other working girls is probably the safest sex you can have in Colombia! The way I do it.

Are they going to drug you at their own place where they sleep? When you have their photo etc? Don't think so, done it hundreds of times never had a problem.

I'll do like you said, go to Lleras for the evening and maybe take a few numbers. If I decided to pull the trigger I'd never invite them to my place, but to a motel just made for that. The reception holds their cedula, and I would make a point of only taking with me the basics of what I need. Cash for them and my burner phone. No bank cards, no original ID etc. I'd also tell them that so there's no point robbing me. But that's all theory anyway because whether or not I'd take the risk on one is another question. We'll see 😉.

[Elvis 2008]

If you spend that kind of money on some random Lleras girl, of course. But if you spend it on a girl that could easily model for playboy, like we're talking about, you won't get that for $300 in the USA. Starts at $1000+ an hour.I agree, but the death of Colombia is that women in Canada who look just as good are cheaper, and there is similar quality for less in Europe.


If you think spending $500 on a meal there sounds stupid, then that's perfectly fine, enjoy your $5 hamburger. But don't tell me life is better that way. To each their own.Thing is that same steak was $125 three years ago, and the guys who live there are a little frustrated with that kind of inflation. I understand that. They are wrong to blame other men, but people always want to point fingers. Ironically, what caused hooker prices in part to soar in the USA, a legal crack down, is happening in Colombia.

And there is the other thing: what the guys do not get is the cure for high prices is high prices. There are better values to be had in the world now than in Colombia on the high end. If you want value, you have to plant roots, go to places other tourists do not go, or settle for the low end. I think the guys here want you to know that there is still value in the low end, but I get that might not be your cup of tea, and I suspect you may not have the time to set down roots.

[TheDerilious]

Like I said, I mainly partake in chicas who advertise online in Colombia on sites such as Prepagos and Mileroticos. Some are gorgeous, most charge around 130 - 150 K per hour, NONE charge more than 250 K. So all the chat on here about prices you guys find normal of hundreds of USD per hour is just on another planet for me, about screwing influencers and Instagram models etc. Who gives a crap about that?Yeah, I don't think anybody should be paying hundreds of USD for an hour of time in Colombia. For a last minute pickup in Lleras, most have quoted 600-800 k (about 150-200 USD) por la noche (multi-hour / shot night). Even Gustos girls seem to push around 1-1. 2 million (about 250-300 USD) for the night if you don't negotiate. I do speak Spanish as well so that may help but no girl in Lleras has ever quoted me more than 400 k per hour and they all quickly go down to 300 k if you push them and give off a good vibe from my discussions with them. I'm actually really surprised to see you make this assertion because I don't think anybody has advocated paying "hundreds of USD" for an hour of time. Most just don't get bent out of shape about paying and extra 50 k-100 k (20 USD) for a session if its a girl they really like and if it's in a general expected range.



Re. Europe, you're quoting some of the most expensive cities such as London. OK, so actually slightly more than 100 USD these days in Belgium, more like 80 for 30 minutes and 130 an hour for an internet lady. And Germany is even cheaper than Belgium, as salaries are lower. And if you see ones that cost more online in Belgium or Germany, you're looking at the wrong websites. The ones full of fake photos, supposed models and porn stars etc. They're the worst. Same goes for Colombia.
I am American so I only know the places that are posted in these forums. As most here are tourists, we tend to focus on major areas that cater to tourists for a variety of reasons. So we would focus on the going rate in Brussels, not La Hulpe (even though it is a beautiful location to visit in a short burst). It's kinda like the situation with Thailand; Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket prices are more relevant to mongers than the prices in Chiang Mai even if there are deals to be had. For European prices, in any major region, most of those all seem to charge the higher rates that you claim are "wrong. " I found that the looks of the girls and the service level I expected matched the general expectation I've grown accustomed to with the price points in the US / Canada. If you have specific insights to these supposed deals, please post them or private message me because I'm definitely interested. Always happy to learn of new places.

Eastern Europe is on my list to try, though.

[Bango Cheito]

If you spend that kind of money on some random Lleras girl, of course. But if you spend it on a girl that could easily model for playboy, like we're talking about, you won't get that for $300 in the USA. Starts at $1000+ an hour.

I don't like Lleras myself, don't like the talent here, most girls there I wouldn't even f*ck for free. Let alone el centro like Gabacho visits to pick up some random stinking animal and proudly posts here how little money he paid.

It's literally the difference between eating at Mc Donalds and Joel Robuchon. If you think spending $500 on a meal there sounds stupid, then that's perfectly fine, enjoy your $5 hamburger. But don't tell me life is better that way. To each their own.This actually proves my point. To further the analogy:

If you're paying $500 to eat at a restaurant with Joel Robuchon's name on it, you're paying a high price for essentially nothing. Robuchon likely has never even set foot in the place, and if he did, it was once or twice, long ago. He probably didn't even consult on the menu.

I couldn't think of a better analogy than that and paying for sex in Lleras.

To further FURTHER the analogy, I don't eat at McDonalds either. I eat at that undiscovered street spot or hole-in-the-wall restaurant few people know about.

Nobody's telling you what to do or not to do. I just personally think it's stupid. Not that you have to care, but this is an on-topic debate on the subject in a public forum, and that's my $. 02.

It is also my opinion that Colombia is a great place to monger because the average offering in the market is way higher than in most other places. Colombia is all about bang for the buck. But the absolute cream of the crop - at least looks-wise - will always be found in the USA. If your physical standards are really THAT high, that is.

[CowboyCheeba]

Alright, since we have all been bashing the lleras pick up scene, let's try and focus on the best online sites that have yielded actual success.

I am near Lleras but so far haven't gone when the action starts (everyone says around 11 PM is best), because I usually have made arrangements before that point.

Between ISG pages of discussions, and tons of Youtube videos, you get the picture with Lleras.

If I'm meeting someone in the street in my travels, my RULE now is to NEVER get with any girl that approaches me FIRST.

So majority of the success I had in MDE is from photoprepagos and mileroticos -- never had a bad chica from those. The least exciting one was a last minute chica who came super late because my previous date was hours delayed, and at 2 AM I just invited over the first chica I messaged who responded and sounded sweet. Super cool, but very transactional, and the connection was whatever even though she was fun enough. Weird super fake tits, but that's what I get for last minute rush. I've paid anywhere from $250 K an hour to $750 K for multi-hour session from all the experiences I've had from those sites. Again, I'm not going to try to bargain bin a chica down from $190 USD to 150 USD.

I am curious about places like modelosalacarta, masajistaspaisas, and others. So please pass on any tips or pointers so we can get some good info back on track.

[MiamiBoy1]

Usually the top looking girls don't perform the best, nobody argues that. They know how hot they are so they don't need to blow you without condom for example. The restaurant analogy works there again, a delicious mail doesn't need to be expensive and it actually can taste better than the most expensive meal in the world. Same goes with wines for example. But it's all about how scarce something is. Even though the hottest girl's performance is nothing special, it's still pure bliss to be fucking her. And not everybody might value that of course, there's no arguing about taste. But don't go post nonsense here like girls like that can easily be had for 250 k.It really depends on the venue or where she is sourced from, how much you pay and if there is chemistry or if she likes you. Do you think those models on expensive yacht trips blow rich guys with a condom on? I bet they don't. If you have money, and pay accordingly, you can get any level of service you want. Anal, orgies, BBFS, whatever the fuck you want. Unless you are an absolutely disgusting fat old pig. And even so, it is just a matter of how much you pay. If you get rejected, you move on until you find someone who would bite. And obviously, you will rarely get GFE service from a casa / club girl, especially when you do her on site. The fee is usually flat and you get standard all covered service. But again, you can always pay up, take her out of the club and get the service you want.

And if there is chemistry, all that I said above becomes so much easier. A had an arrangement with a legit 9, and the sex was off the charts, she fucking delivered, OMG. I will remember her for the rest of my life, that's for sure.

[Bango Cheito]

Then show us the models you have been fucking for 250 k or less, and tell us how and where to find them and we'll be thankful. Do you know how many times I have been shown photos of the girls that a fellow monger considered stunning that I would not even touch for free?I just literally posted a review with photo a little while back. And I mentioned it previously, but you didn't bother to read.

[Turgid]

...... Do you know how many times I have been shown photos of the girls that a fellow monger considered stunning that I would not even touch for free?That is normal. There are probably guys out there who would not touch for free girls you find stunning. I like it when guys do not like girls I like because that makes their availability for me better.
Reminds me of around 16 years ago at New Life when I saw in the lineup one of the hottest girls I've ever seen. There was one other dude who was there before me and had to choose first. I was concerned that he might take her and lo and behold he chose some other girl who I found significantly less attractive. The result was I banged one of the hottest girls I've ever banged in my life. Returned the next day and she was gone never to be seen again. One of my life's greatest regrets is not taking her number.

[TheDerilious]

If you look at the high price ones, they are like tourist trap. A couple of examples among them, the quality of Loutron or La Isla are not getting better but the price going up much more with reduced service than the other non-tourist trap places. Why is that?

Why an experience man would go to tourist trap? One could observe from the conviction of some members here and they must go to these tourist traps to get what they want and pay the tourist trap price because they have to compete with the tourists or others with similar mindset. In a way, relatively speaking, the higher price one pays the weaker hand one has.It's all about the relative arbitrage mechanics at play. I am firm believer that most tourist places provide a general quality floor in experience due to the fact that those areas tend to represent the "upper crust" within a local prostitution market (the local modeling trade being the most prestigious but that is normally not a circle any foreigner, even of a long-term expat, is usually involved in) which leads to more competition within both sides of the market. This is standard supply-demand economics within unregulated markets and should lead better quality service for appropriately upcharged prices. It is not a guarantee, of course, but the general dynamics seem to bear this out pretty well. The second issue that most mongers mistake is the concept of a "passport bro. " A bro should be a term for a certain type of personality, but it is usually incorrectly associated with income classes. To be more specific, there are the folks with high incomes (probably orders of magnitude more than some mongers here) who are simply engaging in the market and making use of arbitrage that works for them. E. g. (and just using "you" generically) If you have ten dollars, it looks stupid to watch someone pay 3 dollars for a 2 dollar apple. If I have one million dollars and someone is selling a 3 dollar apple outside my apartment, I can see the upcharge but understand that it doesn't matter because that same apple costs 10 dollars and I don't want to deal with the hassle of trying to find a place that sells the 2 dollar apple. I wouldn't consider these passport bros and just look at them as what they are; new actors entering a market. Yes, they might ruin things for the old heads who want to go back to the good ol' days, but those actors often also lead to positive benefits in a market (more providers often enter the market to try and engage the higher priced buyers).

You are mistaken. Neither Loutron nor La Isla has "reduced services" to other places, it is more equitable to say they are overcharging for equivalent services. Most of the bang and dash providers in Centro provide sub-standard services that "could" be compared to the higher end joints. These higher end places claim that the hotness of the women makes up for it but that is the great debate, of course.

[CowboyCheeba]

Let's get this back on track.

Was messaging a few prepagos, wanted an earlier vibe so I can be done before midnight in case I wanted to do more night time activities like the clubs.

Still have not been to Gustos even though I can walk there, nor have I checked out La Isla. But I think I have to based on all the hype. Let me know your thoughts, also not sure how the tipping situation works, like what is considered a good tip. Or should I just bring a bunch of USD singles?

Date with a young esthetician who is paying her way through school, and only works earlier hours. She showed me pics of her classes and clients so she's being honest.

Lot of chatting on WA and wanted to be extra secure, I was a little hesitant, but did the whole share location to verify I am where I say I am, and all was good.

Natural boobs, very few photos, but since one date fell through, I wanted to get the evening going without much more fuss.

Checked in, she came with a body suit showing off her cleavage and her natural tetas.

Cute face with a little roundness, round cheeks, but she was very cute.

Natural lips, but a BIG BBL. A pretty nice one too, and the tummy scar was evident, but didn't matter to me.

She raided my mini bar, and we start up, dancing, grinding, besitos, and BBBJ begun, she made great eye contact and had the cutest lips wrapped around, licking all over.

She could deep throat which was a welcome surprise, and forced herself all the way down 5 or 6 times during our 3 hour session.

Started Doggy, and that BBL combined with the BBBJ had me ready for the first polvo. Boom.

We cuddle together and start chatting, and she's stuck to me like a clingy girlfriend haha.

Natural break in conversation, and we start making out again, and I'm ready to go again, legs up half missionary so I can see her natural see cups bouncing while I pound away.

She was super tight and grippy, and the whole vibe was extremely sensual, which made it so much more enjoyable.

Opted for a third hour because I was ready to go again at the end of hours 2, so I'm not trying to nickel and dime like so many of the mongers on here, who are proud of how little they spend.

Could have negotiated a little, but I didn't want to interrupt the flow.

Third time was just as fun, she went down on me as soon as she noticed I was ready and gave me one of the best BBBJ's I could ask for.

In terms of what I spent, I'll say that I have never exceeded $300 USD on any chica here thus far, if anybody wants more details you can PM.

Another lovely paisa offering GFE and a super sexy time.

Side note: I messaged a stunning Venezolana, but I didn't know that until we were working out details. She was trying to push me for a trio with her ultra hot Vennie friend. She then asked if the hotel checks documents. I say "Si Siempre" (yes always) -- and she's like ohh I just got my papers from Venezuela. She insisted she only did CBJ so that was one strike, but was so fine, I was still tempted. I didn't want to risk anything based on stories I've read, heard online, and heard first hand from other chicas about girls from Venezuela because they are not on the paisa vibe, and that wavelength is where I am having the best times.

[Nounce]

You are mistaken. Neither Loutron nor La Isla has "reduced services" to other places, Before pandemic at La Isla, I got a table and a waiter when I bough any drink. After pandemic, standing room only when I bought a drink. I give you this example because you can not say this is YMMV. I wrote report about it. Just read the reports on these two places. There are many new people just accept what is provided and the indirect result is the girls can do business without providing the services that more demanding customers want.

I was in a steak restaurant in El Poblado a few weeks ago. Everyone on that table next to me ordered either burger or fried chicken. They were talking about the deal they got with the girls in dollar.

The apple that is sold in Extito usually is the same quality in every Exito. The apple that is sold in El Centro,is different from what is sold in Exito. If I have a million dollar, I would not want to go to Extio to pay more to buy the apple sold in El Centro market. I failed to understand your analogy. To me, this is a minor point to argue about regardless who is right.

[AA2015]

I'm planning my first Medellin trip for later this month, and appreciate the excellent information here. I am retired, late 60's, travelling solo, and my Spanish is decent (not fluent but more than enough to talk to a girl, book a date, and tell her what I want). I have pretty extensive experience in the US, have made several trips to Cartagena, and just got back from a tour of Vienna, Prague, and Berlin; to the point that I have plenty of experience in a variety of formats, from street pick-ups to long-term escort dates. In Cartagena I stayed in Bocagrande, and I am comfortable with the quality level of the typical tourist hotels there.

I appreciated the discussion of different personal styles and preferences, and the need to decide what you like and the best approach for you. I have two conflicting desires. I enjoy female company, and I don't want to spend my time eating and spending my day alone in between a couple of hour or half hour sessions every day. I would be very happy meeting a nice girl, spending a few days with her, and being temporarily monogamous. On the other hand, in my recent European tour I found that I like the idea of having a lot of girls who are all immediately available, like the laufhauses and FKKs in Europe.Hi Jay, PM me if you are here in October. Early November. Happy to meet you and whoever else would like to join a fellow monger from America.

[Mr Enternational]

also not sure how the tipping situation works, like what is considered a good tip. Or should I just bring a bunch of USD singles?Why are you trying to give away free money? And free money of a foreign currency at that. Would you go to the USA and give out South African Rand to people?

[Mr Enternational]

Have you ever seen a 37 yo mom win the Miss Universe contest? She wouldn't even qualify. I actually met the person who was Miss Universe last year. I do not know her name, but she is from Texas. Just looked like a regular chick to me. And yes, unlike you with all your 8's, 9's, and 10's, I do have pictures. The first pictures we took she did not have the sash on. Then her assistant remembered and said let's put the sash on and take some. Yeah, because without the sash, I would not know her from any 37 year old mom walking down the street anyway.

[Plan77]

Just finished a weeklong tour of Medellin. Arriving in the evening has become a nightmare. They still have just three immigration officers for visitors, took god damn one hour and 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Medellin number of incoming tourists have sky rocketed but for their immigration dept. It is still 2010.

Didn't bother with Parque Lleras this time but casas were good enough.

Zandalay was a disaster - 7-8 chicas on most days, all of them roadkill.

New Life was much better this time, about 20-30 girls, 3-4 do-able for me. 70 + propina for media hora. Gets lots of loud, big guys from USA.

Sexy Amigas was a let down this time, they used to be ebst. Had about 10-12 girls, one or two old timers still the best.

Armonia was the start this time, had 12-20 girls mostly. About 5+ do-ables.

One new thing I noticed this time around is that all casa chicas have ganged up and refuse to accept below 50 K propina. They just don't budge. Some girls in Armonia won't kiss at all, something I have almost never ever experienced in my life all over the world. So what used to be a good deal for 60 + 20 K last year is now 70 + 50 minimum.

The centro scene was as usual, mostly road kill but a gem here and there if you look hard enough.

[AmorPorFavor]

Just finished a weeklong tour of Medellin. Arriving in the evening has become a nightmare. They still have just three immigration officers for visitors, took god damn one hour and 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Medellin number of incoming tourists have sky rocketed but for their immigration dept. It is still 2010.What time did you land?

[Elvis 2008]

I actually met the person who was Miss Universe last year. I do not know her name, but she is from Texas. Just looked like a regular chick to me. And yes, unlike you with all your 8's, 9's, and 10's, I do have pictures. The first pictures we took she did not have the sash on. Then her assistant remembered and said let's put the sash on and take some. Yeah, because without the sash, I would not know her from any 37 year old mom walking down the street anyway.I am not surprised. The SI swimsuit issue has had plus size models for years, and it was just a matter of time for beauty contests to go woke, and they have.

https://wwd.com/pop-culture/celebrity-news/miss-universe-2023-transwomen-plus-size-mothers-1235934116/

In October 2022, Thai transgender entrepreneur Anne Jakrajutatip purchased the Miss Universe Organization from IMG. Under Jakrajutatip's ownership, the Miss Universe contest revised its rules, allowing mothers, married people and divorcees to compete. They are also letting trannies in.

So yeah, that you saw a Miss Universe and were not impressed does not shock me. Hell, she may have been a dude.

[CowboyCheeba]

This is to all the gringos. I see roving groups of dudes walking the streets of poblado, lleras, etc. We have all seen the groups of gringos in Colombia.

There was a discussion earlier in this thread about how speaking Spanish won't prevent bad shit happening to you, and it devolved into a silly semantic argument about how crime occurs anywhere. And locals are victims of crime too and they are locals who speak the language!

Yeah, being almost fluent in Spanish, I can 100% say that your chances of getting in a bad situation drops greatly. People who make an attempt to fit in are not going to become a victim of something versus the entitled a-hole gringo getting wasted and treating the country like it's their frat house.

The entitled gringo attitude is disgusting and needs to be called out. I witnessed a rude gringo talking to a waiter like he was a child.

The guy had his translation app open and it said "I want cappuccino not with americano but with espresso" - confusing, poor wording.

The waiter was like "You want cappuccino with an extra shot?

Dude immediately was impatient and condescending "NO, I don't want an americano I want a cappuccino with espresso and not americano".

Basically he thought they would make an americano with milk and pass it as a cappuccino I guess? Who knows it was a pathetic scene.

I see them paying for food on the street in Provenza, yelling at the people that they want to pay US dollars, and they're telling him "we only take pesos or credit card" while the gringo has a wad of 20's spilling out on the counter like a fool. "WHAT? I have dollars you don't take cash?

Bro where do you even come from?

The people in Colombia are mostly patient, give good service, and make an attempt to meet you more than halfway, and these entitled little men are barely making an effort, getting wasted, taking zero interest in the culture other than cheap food drinks and women.

Learn the basics, learn how to say the touristy things, stop making Americans look stupid and ignorant. Humble yourself when you are in a foreign nation.

If a local with criminal intent in their heart is watching this scene, they're not going to pick someone who speaks with a little respect and knows the language, they are going to go after the idiots who don't know how to act, and think they own the place.

These guys were walking marks with a cloud of entitled ignorance surrounding them.

[Knowledge]

What and where is Armonia?


Just finished a weeklong tour of Medellin. Arriving in the evening has become a nightmare. They still have just three immigration officers for visitors, took god damn one hour and 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Medellin number of incoming tourists have sky rocketed but for their immigration dept. It is still 2010.

Didn't bother with Parque Lleras this time but casas were good enough.

Zandalay was a disaster - 7-8 chicas on most days, all of them roadkill.

New Life was much better this time, about 20-30 girls, 3-4 do-able for me. 70 + propina for media hora. Gets lots of loud, big guys from USA.

Sexy Amigas was a let down this time, they used to be ebst. Had about 10-12 girls, one or two old timers still the best.

Armonia was the start this time, had 12-20 girls mostly. About 5+ do-ables.

One new thing I noticed this time around is that all casa chicas have ganged up and refuse to accept below 50 K propina. They just don't budge. Some girls in Armonia won't kiss at all, something I have almost never ever experienced in my life all over the world. So what used to be a good deal for 60 + 20 K last year is now 70 + 50 minimum.

The centro scene was as usual, mostly road kill but a gem here and there if you look hard enough.

[Hobo3]

Thanks for your advice. I'm probably just feeling horny in Europe seeing the videos of Lleras etc, once I get there I'll be sensible. Never done anything dumb before there, not about to start now. Don't date any chicks from social media. Going to see one advertised as a hooker online with her photo & address, or at a Casa with other working girls is probably the safest sex you can have in Colombia! The way I do it.

Are they going to drug you at their own place where they sleep? When you have their photo etc? Don't think so, done it hundreds of times never had a problem.

I'll do like you said, go to Lleras for the evening and maybe take a few numbers. If I decided to pull the trigger I'd never invite them to my place, but to a motel just made for that. The reception holds their cedula, and I would make a point of only taking with me the basics of what I need. Cash for them and my burner phone. No bank cards, no original ID etc. I'd also tell them that so there's no point robbing me. But that's all theory anyway because whether or not I'd take the risk on one is another question. We'll see 😉.I don't get it! If you're in Europe why travel all the way to South America? If you factor in the cost of the LONG flight, the inflated Airbnb prices in Medellin and the rising cost of ran thru chicas you are talking about $1000's of Euros to sleep with a handful of tatted, marijuana breath chicas. If you use that money you could sleep with 2-3 more girls without the long ass flight.

The same goes for Americans and Canadians. If you factor in high Airbnb prices for shitty apartments and transportation you could save that money and sleep with several woman who speaks english in the comfort of your own home. And even make a deal for something weekly. It's youtube. There are no youtube videos of the hookers in your own city so people think they have to cross entire oceans just to get laid.

[Black Page]

And free money of a foreign currency at that. Would you go to the USA and give out South African Rand to people?Always spot on!

[Turgid]

Just finished a weeklong tour of Medellin. Arriving in the evening has become a nightmare. They still have just three immigration officers for visitors, took god damn one hour and 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Medellin number of incoming tourists have sky rocketed but for their immigration dept. It is still 2010.

Didn't bother with Parque Lleras this time but casas were good enough.

Zandalay was a disaster - 7-8 chicas on most days, all of them roadkill.

New Life was much better this time, about 20-30 girls, 3-4 do-able for me. 70 + propina for media hora. Gets lots of loud, big guys from USA.

Sexy Amigas was a let down this time, they used to be ebst. Had about 10-12 girls, one or two old timers still the best.

Armonia was the start this time, had 12-20 girls mostly. About 5+ do-ables.

One new thing I noticed this time around is that all casa chicas have ganged up and refuse to accept below 50 K propina. They just don't budge. Some girls in Armonia won't kiss at all, something I have almost never ever experienced in my life all over the world. So what used to be a good deal for 60 + 20 K last year is now 70 + 50 minimum.

The centro scene was as usual, mostly road kill but a gem here and there if you look hard enough.Great reading a casa report which has become very scarce here. I am a casa man and will be arriving in Medellin Wednesday. Looking forward to my usual casa romps, will be adding Loutrons and Energy to the mix which I do every visit.

[Bill]

One new thing I noticed this time around is that all casa chicas have ganged up and refuse to accept below 50 K propina. They just don't budge. Some girls in Armonia won't kiss at all, something I have almost never ever experienced in my life all over the world. So what used to be a good deal for 60 + 20 K last year is now 70 + 50 minimum.Please explain what the 50 k propina is all about. BBBJ? Propina means tip which is given voluntarily as opposed to an upgrade in services? Thanks.

[Knowledge]

If I lived in the United States I would happily spend the money to avoid the risk of a criminal record.


I don't get it! If you're in Europe why travel all the way to South America? If you factor in the cost of the LONG flight, the inflated Airbnb prices in Medellin and the rising cost of ran thru chicas you are talking about $1000's of Euros to sleep with a handful of tatted, marijuana breath chicas. If you use that money you could sleep with 2-3 more girls without the long ass flight.

The same goes for Americans and Canadians. If you factor in high Airbnb prices for shitty apartments and transportation you could save that money and sleep with several woman who speaks english in the comfort of your own home. And even make a deal for something weekly. It's youtube. There are no youtube videos of the hookers in your own city so people think they have to cross entire oceans just to get laid.

[LoveItHere69]

I actually met the person who was Miss Universe last year. I do not know her name, but she is from Texas. Just looked like a regular chick to me. And yes, unlike you with all your 8's, 9's, and 10's, I do have pictures. The first pictures we took she did not have the sash on. Then her assistant remembered and said let's put the sash on and take some. Yeah, because without the sash, I would not know her from any 37 year old mom walking down the street anyway.You brag about finally posting a picture but the body is hidden in fake fur fluffy stuff. Why did you not show her face? If she really is Miss Universe she would not have any reason to fear getting a picture taken of her face since she gets pictures taken of her every day every where she goes.

[Zeos1]

Please explain what the 50 k propina is all about. BBBJ? Propina means tip which is given voluntarily as opposed to an upgrade in services? Thanks.Propina means whatever they want it to mean. An semantic argument will not get you a BBBJ.

[GiraffyBoy]

If I lived in the United States I would happily spend the money to avoid the risk of a criminal record.I do live in the US and I'd prefer to travel. For the most part it's illegal here and unregulated and unpredictable. You never really know what you are going to get and you are going to pay a lot more. I don't have to worry about getting arrested if I travel. Most of the girls I see here are skanks compared to other countries etc and you have to pay 3 x the price. I can't afford a decent chick for $1200 or higher.

[MiamiBoy1]

You brag about finally posting a picture but the body is hidden in fake fur fluffy stuff. Why did you not show her face? If she really is Miss Universe she would not have any reason to fear getting a picture taken of her face since she gets pictures taken of her every day every where she goes.He always posts BS pics. Low resolution, body parts, etc. Look at the photo he posted in the stupid shit in Medellin thread. He asks me to post pics of my girls, but when it comes to his girls, he always posts crap. I had to look up this miss universe, found her insta, she is a cutie, not my type, but definitely hot.

[Mr Enternational]

He always posts BS pics. Low resolution, body parts, etc. Look at the photo he posted in the stupid shit in Medellin thread. He asks me to post pics of my girls, but when it comes to his girls, he always posts crap. I had to look up this miss universe, found her insta, she is a cutie, not my type, but definitely hot.LOL. While you two post nothing! At least you had sense enough to look the person up, unlike the person you quoted who is on my ignore list. I guess that dummy did not read the part about me being in the picture with her. Besides that, I have already been burned in the Lima thread by someone running back and telling a chick that never revealed herself as a hooker to me that I posted pictures of her here. So yeah, the low resolution BS pics that I post are already much more than the NOTHING that you and that clown post.

[Beobeo]

He always posts BS pics. Low resolution, body parts, etc. Look at the photo he posted in the stupid shit in Medellin thread. He asks me to post pics of my girls, but when it comes to his girls, he always posts crap. I had to look up this miss universe, found her insta, she is a cutie, not my type, but definitely hot.At least he posted shitty pix. One posted shitty pix, one talked big but don't post shit. In the end, both are shit. One shit call the other shit but both are shit.

At least I respect the one that posted something instead of sprouting shit with no proof.

[ElSexoChino7]

and the rising cost of ran thru chicas you are talking about $1000's of Euros to sleep with a handful of tatted, marijuana breath chicas.You just reminded me of one of the girls I banged last year. Pretty face, great attitude and a University girl. Soon as she opens her mouth to start talking, that marijuana breath kills my libido. I opted out for the kiss, which is part of my routine. Told her she can suck me with condom on as I don't want junior smelling marijuana for my next date lol. I'm always freshly showered and smelling good before meetup. I'm not taking risk with the smell of marijuana that just sticks anywhere. Hard lesson learned and never again. I always asked girls now if they smoke, so I don't have to deal with the same BS.

[MoonShot]

I do live in the US and I'd prefer to travel. For the most part it's illegal here and unregulated and unpredictable. You never really know what you are going to get and you are going to pay a lot more. I don't have to worry about getting arrested if I travel. Most of the girls I see here are skanks compared to other countries etc and you have to pay 3 x the price. I can't afford a decent chick for $1200 or higher.When you see a pay for play girl in the United States, you are subject to arrest and it may ruin your career and marriage. It is a big risk. When you travel overseas where it is legal in the country, you don't have to worry about being arrested by the police as long as the girl is of legal age.

Sometimes people complain about paying $100 and say that they can pay that in their home country. Now, I don't know about your particular country but in the United States, you are not getting a very high quality girl for $100. It is usually a 6 or lower and it is non-GFE and business-like. Now, I agree that $100 US is a lot for Medellin but if you are getting GFE with a very attractive girl and she is giving you a great performance, that is a lot more than you will be getting for the same price in the United States.

Now it is true that you are paying for the flight and hotels but you are on vacation and there are other things to enjoy about Medellin besides the sex.

[GringoAdvent]

I've been to Medellin 10+ times in the last two years and cartagena once (which was enough for me LOL). Me and some friends are planning a trip to one of these three cities and it's currently up for debate. Here's what we prioritize:

1. P4 P scene (Obviously) - How good is the p4 p scene on the streets and amount of good looking women available (ie poblado: blending in with nightlife, relatively safe mongering scene).

2. Upscale restaurant availability - (ie Carmen, other poblado joints, and envigado).

3. Cost. Average cost of drinks, women, food. On average, how do the three compare?

[HumbleHal]

in the United States, you are not getting a very high quality girl for $100. It is usually a 6 or lower and it is non-GFE and business-like. Now, I agree that $100 US is a lot for Medellin but if you are getting GFE with a very attractive girl and she is giving you a great performance
Now it is true that you are paying for the flight and hotels but you are on vacation and there are other things to enjoy about Medellin besides the sex.My last experience in Medellin was with a young attractive 19-20 year old Vene from Parque Lleras who agreed to $100 US (350,000 pesos) but in the room she was a real dud. She went right for my fridge in the room and did not want to do the BBBJ she had agreed to do. Until I told her to leave, then she did the BBBJ. And the sex was poor. She was resisting, like it was a wrestling match and I had to keep trying to pin her to get penetration. I think I ended up paying her less than agreed because she underperformed, nonperformed, and it was not worth much, if anything, to be honest. I recall asking her to leave paid her half, and I ended up jacking off myself after getting rid of her.

My last experience in Sosua was with a young 19-year-old who did not want to do BBBJ and was going thru my frig and packages of things I bought for my kids, like it was her property.

Both trips were disappointing, expensive and a waste of travel time. The performances of the women have gone down and its hard to find an honest hoe who performs what she negotiated and agreed to do, regardless of the country.

Fortunately, I have a couple of regulars in the US for $200 each and I see them each once a week. It has saved alot of money on airfare and hotel, as well as time travelling.

[Combo]

When you see a pay for play girl in the United States, you are subject to arrest and it may ruin your career and marriage. It is a big risk. When you travel overseas where it is legal in the country, you don't have to worry about being arrested by the police as long as the girl is of legal age.

Now it is true that you are paying for the flight and hotels but you are on vacation and there are other things to enjoy about Medellin besides the sex.Yup. My trips are about more than just this hobby. For one, it's nice to go somewhere with good weather between Nov and April when it's not good weather where I live. I would be taking warm weather trips if I was married so why not do them when I'm single? Just get to bone several women as opposed to just your wife.

And you're right. Not worth risking arrest in the USA.

[TheMan31]

I do live in the US and I'd prefer to travel. For the most part it's illegal here and unregulated and unpredictable. You never really know what you are going to get and you are going to pay a lot more. I don't have to worry about getting arrested if I travel. Most of the girls I see here are skanks compared to other countries etc and you have to pay 3 x the price. I can't afford a decent chick for $1200 or higher." I can't afford a decent chick for $1200 or higher. ".

First off you can get a decent chick for $300. $1200 you can get top of the line in america so I'm not sure where your getting your data from?

Explain. Or maybe I read your message wrong.

[MoonShot]

My last experience in Medellin was with a young attractive 19-20 year old Vene from Parque Lleras who agreed to $100 US (350,000 pesos) but in the room she was a real dud. She went right for my fridge in the room and did not want to do the BBBJ she had agreed to do. Until I told her to leave, then she did the BBBJ. And the sex was poor. She was resisting, like it was a wrestling match and I had to keep trying to pin her to get penetration. I think I ended up paying her less than agreed because she underperformed, nonperformed, and it was not worth much, if anything, to be honest. I recall asking her to leave paid her half, and I ended up jacking off myself after getting rid of her.

My last experience in Sosua was with a young 19-year-old who did not want to do BBBJ and was going thru my frig and packages of things I bought for my kids, like it was her property.

Both trips were disappointing, expensive and a waste of travel time. The performances of the women have gone down and its hard to find an honest hoe who performs what she negotiated and agreed to do, regardless of the country..You may run into those types of girls in Medellin, and it is always a hit or miss situation when you pick up a girl in Park Lleras. That has not been my experience with Facebook girls in Medellin. I have met a number of attractive girls 18-22 age range who have provided solid performances and have been fun and friendly in the room. But it was not always that way. On the first trip, it was very hit or miss, and there were a few average performances. Over time, I just learned from your experiences and I got a better sense of which girls to select.

Medellin is still a fun place to visit for me, but there will still be a dud from time to time. It goes with the turf if you are seeing new girls. Now I am seeing a lot of regulars, girls that I have already seen, and there is more assurance that it will be a good session.

[Turgid]

Got in on a delayed flight today. Arrived at my hotel around 2. 00 am. My preferred place to stay is Poblado. My favorite part of Medellin is Laureles but in the past I have never found a good hotel there; same for El Centro. American brand upscale hotels have been tried and tested successfully for me. I use short time hotels for any trysts I may have. In my most recent visit to Bogota I stayed at the Radisson and was quite satisfied with that choice. I was supposed to have visited Cali this time around having already been to Cartagena but I could not get good accommodation at short notice.

I remember reading a poster's comment on the big sign at immigration. I have no problem with it, it is against underage sex and actually does not refer to sex tourism. Another poster mentioned not requiring the CheckMig fill out. What I suspect (I am not 100% sure of this) is that if you enter without filling out the form the immigration officer will spend a lot of time interrogating you but will allow you to go through eventually. I saw certain extranjeros going through this. I filled out the form (with some difficulty as the website is iffy) and I went through like a breeze. The problem with not filling out the form is the delay that it apparently causes to other visitors. Have some consideration guys.

As I mentioned in earlier posts I go for the casas. I intend to spend time casa hopping in search of diamonds in the rough. Parque LLeras, street girls, facebook girls and Seeking are just not my thing. I do occasionally have a look at the street scene and pop into the Centro clubs / bars, though, when I'm in that area.

[GangsterDog]

Who's going to be there next week? I'll be there 17th-21st. Going to be my 6th time. I lived there when I was little, not Medellin tho.

[Lucky Nuts]

Got in on a delayed flight today. Arrived at my hotel around 2. 00 am. My preferred place to stay is Poblado. My favorite part of Medellin is Laureles but in the past I have never found a good hotel there; same for El Centro. American brand upscale hotels have been tried and tested successfully for me. I use short time hotels for any trysts I may have. In my most recent visit to Bogota I stayed at the Radisson and was quite satisfied with that choice. I was supposed to have visited Cali this time around having already been to Cartagena but I could not get good accommodation at short notice.

I remember reading a poster's comment on the big sign at immigration. I have no problem with it, it is against underage sex and actually does not refer to sex tourism. Another poster mentioned not requiring the CheckMig fill out. What I suspect (I am not 100% sure of this) is that if you enter without filling out the form the immigration officer will spend a lot of time interrogating you but will allow you to go through eventually. I saw certain extranjeros going through this. I filled out the form (with some difficulty as the website is iffy) and I went through like a breeze. The problem with not filling out the form is the delay that it apparently causes to other visitors. Have some consideration guys.

As I mentioned in earlier posts I go for the casas. I intend to spend time casa hopping in search of diamonds in the rough. Parque LLeras, street girls, facebook girls and Seeking are just not my thing. I do occasionally have a look at the street scene and pop into the Centro clubs / bars, though, when I'm in that area.Hasn't it been quite a few years since your last visit Turgid? The scene has changed. I was a casa guy 10 years ago when there were some diamonds in the rough. They aint there no more! I've given up on the casas. If you like the cheap ones then hit the el centro bars or behind the church. Unless you like big girls you're wasting your time at the casas imo. Will be interested in reading your report.

[GuiGui123]

I use short time hotels for any trysts I may have.What are your favorite short time hotels in Poblado?

[Turgid]

What are your favorite short time hotels in Poblado?I have never used a short time hotel in Poblado.

[GiraffyBoy]

Hasn't it been quite a few years since your last visit Turgid? The scene has changed. I was a casa guy 10 years ago when there were some diamonds in the rough. They aint there no more! I've given up on the casas. If you like the cheap ones then hit the el centro bars or behind the church. Unless you like big girls you're wasting your time at the casas imo. Will be interested in reading your report.Pardon my ignorance here but what do you guys mean by casa? I speak fluent spanish, so I know what casa is, I haven't been to Colombia yet and was wondering what it means in this context. Is it like a red light district?

[Archimedes4]

I'm a new member here, and I've been diving into many posts to gather insights before my upcoming trip to Medellin (and Panama City) in a few weeks. While I'm no stranger to mongering—having experience in cities like Austin, Dallas, Vegas, and the San Francisco Bay Area—I'm eager to learn more about these destinations and share my own insights as well.

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[CK465]

My last experience in Medellin was with a young attractive 19-20 year old Vene from Parque Lleras who agreed to $100 US (350,000 pesos) but in the room she was a real dud. She went right for my fridge in the room and did not want to do the BBBJ she had agreed to do. Until I told her to leave, then she did the BBBJ. And the sex was poor. She was resisting, like it was a wrestling match and I had to keep trying to pin her to get penetration. I think I ended up paying her less than agreed because she underperformed, nonperformed, and it was not worth much, if anything, to be honest. I recall asking her to leave paid her half, and I ended up jacking off myself after getting rid of her.

My last experience in Sosua was with a young 19-year-old who did not want to do BBBJ and was going thru my frig and packages of things I bought for my kids, like it was her property.

Both trips were disappointing, expensive and a waste of travel time. The performances of the women have gone down and its hard to find an honest hoe who performs what she negotiated and agreed to do, regardless of the country.

Fortunately, I have a couple of regulars in the US for $200 each and I see them each once a week. It has saved alot of money on airfare and hotel, as well as time travelling.Why are you paying that much for a crappy experience? You clearly didn't have a good time and it seems like the first time you two met. You can get a way better experience at a Casa for way cheaper. Doesn't make sense IMO.

[CK465]

When you see a pay for play girl in the United States, you are subject to arrest and it may ruin your career and marriage. It is a big risk. When you travel overseas where it is legal in the country, you don't have to worry about being arrested by the police as long as the girl is of legal age.

Sometimes people complain about paying $100 and say that they can pay that in their home country. Now, I don't know about your particular country but in the United States, you are not getting a very high quality girl for $100. It is usually a 6 or lower and it is non-GFE and business-like. Now, I agree that $100 US is a lot for Medellin but if you are getting GFE with a very attractive girl and she is giving you a great performance, that is a lot more than you will be getting for the same price in the United States.

Now it is true that you are paying for the flight and hotels but you are on vacation and there are other things to enjoy about Medellin besides the sex.That's why you got to have your money for the vacation and then you're play money. 500 usd equates to about 2 million pesos. Plenty to have at least thirty girls or more if negotiated right. The more you speak the language the better the experience and and rates are.

[RacShack]

Who's going to be there next week? I'll be there 17th-21st. Going to be my 6th time. I lived there when I was little, not Medellin tho.Pm me I'm going to be there player!

[The Dark Lord101]

Hi,

I am planning to come to Medellin in November but worried about my safety there. I have been reading all the reports and excited that there are many beauties floating around. However, I have also seen many videos about robbing and drugging happening in this town.

I don't plan to indulge in Tinder or any dating app.

Can someone please advise whether inviting girls from mileroticos or similar websitesare safe? I found the pricing quite reasonable. Does anyone have any incident of getting drugged or robbed from girls from these websites! Do I need to be cautious even with these girls.

[LoveItHere69]

Can someone please advise whether inviting girls from mileroticos or similar websitesare safe? I found the pricing quite reasonable. Does anyone have any incident of getting drugged or robbed from girls from these websites! Milerotico, Skokka, and another (forgot the name) are safe because you do the deed at their location. Most (90%) will not go to your place for their safety. You will have to up the price 50% or more and most likely have been with them a few times prior so they kind of know you. Your success rate will be around 25% because they use old pictures, edited photos, no replies, bait and switch (Julie is gone or busy but here take Samatha), and the list goes on and on. I tried the main websites in 5 major cities and all had the same results.

[Zeos1]

Pardon my ignorance here but what do you guys mean by casa? I speak fluent spanish, so I know what casa is, I haven't been to Colombia yet and was wondering what it means in this context. Is it like a red light district?Casas are sometimes in casas. So there is the connection I suppose. Basically brothel would be the closest english term I think. Lots of descriptions if you dig back through reports. Search for "New Life" for reports about one of the bigger ones, and in most respects typical of what these casas are lke.

[Fun Luvr]

Can someone please advise whether inviting girls from mileroticos or similar websitesare safe? I found the pricing quite reasonable. Does anyone have any incident of getting drugged or robbed from girls from these websites! Do I need to be cautious even with these girls.You need to be cautious with every girl, no matter where you find her. I've been going to Medellin for 14 years. The last few years, I've been there almost six months of each year. I've never been drugged. I think a girl tried one time, but she didn't succeed. I haven't been robbed. A few times, chicas have taken some money from my pants while I was showering. Some people on this forum advise to never let the chica out of your site. I can't live like that. In my opinion, having a good time with a chica involves some level of trust. I don't party with chicas in my apartment. I offer them non alcoholic drinks, and I drink water. The water is gone after two or three gulps, so no opportunity for foreign substances. I don't pick up chicas from Parque Lleras. I have a couple of times in the past, and both have been bad experiences. I rely on Facebook and referrals from chicas I know for new contacts. I have more chica acquaintances than I can see in a year, but I still try to see one or two new ones during each trip. Each trip lasts about a month.

[Knowledge]

Casa de cita, burdel, *****house.


Pardon my ignorance here but what do you guys mean by casa? I speak fluent spanish, so I know what casa is, I haven't been to Colombia yet and was wondering what it means in this context. Is it like a red light district?

[MoonShot]

You need to be cautious with every girl, no matter where you find her. I've been going to Medellin for 14 years. The last few years, I've been there almost six months of each year. I've never been drugged. I think a girl tried one time, but she didn't succeed. I haven't been robbed. A few times, chicas have taken some money from my pants while I was showering. Some people on this forum advise to never let the chica out of your site. I can't live like that. In my opinion, having a good time with a chica involves some level of trust. I don't party with chicas in my apartment. I offer them non alcoholic drinks, and I drink water. The water is gone after two or three gulps, so no opportunity for foreign substances. I don't pick up chicas from Parque Lleras. I have a couple of times in the past, and both have been bad experiences. I rely on Facebook and referrals from chicas I know for new contacts. I have more chica acquaintances than I can see in a year, but I still try to see one or two new ones during each trip. Each trip lasts about a month.I would agree with this opinion. You just have to be careful with every girl you invite to your place no matter where you found her. Not drinking with the girl is something I would recommend. Having a place with security is another good decision.