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Jeffers69
10-12-24, 22:51
You need to be cautious with every girl, no matter where you find her. I've been going to Medellin for 14 years. The last few years, I've been there almost six months of each year. I've never been drugged. I think a girl tried one time, but she didn't succeed. I haven't been robbed. A few times, chicas have taken some money from my pants while I was showering. Some people on this forum advise to never let the chica out of your site. I can't live like that. In my opinion, having a good time with a chica involves some level of trust. I don't party with chicas in my apartment. I offer them non alcoholic drinks, and I drink water. The water is gone after two or three gulps, so no opportunity for foreign substances. I don't pick up chicas from Parque Lleras. I have a couple of times in the past, and both have been bad experiences. I rely on Facebook and referrals from chicas I know for new contacts. I have more chica acquaintances than I can see in a year, but I still try to see one or two new ones during each trip. Each trip lasts about a month.As a first timer (I arrive 14th) is online the safest way then? Followed I guess by visiting strip clubs and casa's (will have to research these)?

I'm looking for big ol booties (you don't get those in Europe much), I worry the best will be in Parc Lleras but there is no way I would risk that especially being alone!

Thanks for the help (seems like a few of us are going at the same time).

HumbleHal
10-13-24, 01:06
Why are you paying that much for a crappy experience? You clearly didn't have a good time and it seems like the first time you two met. You can get a way better experience at a Casa for way cheaper. Doesn't make sense IMO.I did get the BBBJ after complaining and giving her the option to leave, and I did penetrate her, though she resisted like it was a wresting match. I thought 200 K was a fair portion for what she had earned and paid her that. She did not complain as she was putting on her close, so it was fair for her also. About $55 US. After she left I jacked off and went to sleep.

Shemp
10-13-24, 04:29
Casa de cita, burdel, *****house.MP's massage parlors.

Zeos1
10-13-24, 12:52
As a first timer (I arrive 14th) is online the safest way then? Followed I guess by visiting strip clubs and casa's (will have to research these)?

I'm looking for big ol booties (you don't get those in Europe much), I worry the best will be in Parc Lleras but there is no way I would risk that especially being alone!

Thanks for the help (seems like a few of us are going at the same time).Depends what you mean by online. The most dangerous is using apps like Tinder to make connections. There are many many examples of guys meeting dates through Tinder and ending up dead. And many many who ended up getting drugged but surviving, minus their stuff.

Exoticspirit
10-13-24, 14:35
After a first trip to Medellin in May, I made a quick return visit this past week staying only three nights since I had spent the weekend doing the Panama City scene with an old college buddy. Copa Airlines has a deal right now where a stopover in Panama was free of charge. This time my Medellin stay would be from Monday to Thursday and I opted to stay at the Hotel Medellin Plaza or more commonly known as the Hotel M mansion again. I know it's overpriced but it turned out to be so user friendly last time with English speaking reception staff, meeting other fellow mongers and the monger bar just downstairs to pull from along with good security.

The immigration lines in the afternoon were terrible as it took my 1. 5 hours to get through. Then at the counter, once again I was directed to the 'Canadian' booth where I had to pay a $94 Cad entry fee due to some trade spat Colombia and Canada has. Anyway after getting through I made my way to the cheap airport buses which all the locals take for 15,500 COP which is what I took in May. This is by far the cheapest way into the city. I got off at their stop near San Diego Mall and ordered an Uber to the hotel. No need for costly taxis from the airport. Once checked in I went out across the main street to Ovienda Mall which has a nice food court in the lower level with lots of choices at decent prices. Then went over to the 24 hour pharmacy across from Ovienda Mall to pick up some stuff for my room.

After relaxing I made my way down to the hotel bar at about 10 pm. In May I had a Thursday, Friday and Saturday night stint there and it was great with enough chicas to choose from. This time on Monday night, I was the only customer there with about five girls inside with only 1-2 I would consider. One of them hit me up for drinks and this is where I made a mistake by agreeing to buy a girl one before committing. As we enjoyed our drinks, I asked if 250,000 COP was acceptable which is what I paid in May assuming that after quotes of 300,000 COP, most girls would agree to go for 250,000. Well to my surprise, this girl refused to go under 300,000 and soon the other girls came as they all started babbling in Spanish. I'm sure that the chica I was talking to was telling the others about our price disagreement and they somehow tried to tell me that none of them would go out for less than 300,000.

I told them that I previously paid 250,000 all the time and mentioned names of two chicas I saw in May. They told me that one of those girls was fired for charging too low which prevented the rest of them from getting any work. I think this was bullcrap since girls working here are all independent. I could have settled for the 300,000 since after conversion, it's only a difference of $20 Cad but I felt that the 'union' of girls there that night caused a less than positive vibe with me so I left opting to go to sleep instead after a long day of travel.

The next morning I decided to Uber it out to the New Life casa to get some action after getting nothing the night before. I've been to New Life once before and had a great time there. This time I once again went through the blue door and got buzzed up where a lady host was waiting. After directed to a waiting room, a line up of about 15 girls came by one at a time introducing themselves. Overall the quality was crap in my opinion as most of them were fatties although I'm sure some customers who like beefier woman might like them. Luckily for me, there were two slim ones who were acceptable to me and the last one in the line up was just my type. These girls were rotating through another waiting room at the same time so I was hoping that my chosen one would not be picked by the other dude there. When the hostess came around, she confirmed that my chosen girl was available to me so I took 30 minutes for 70,000 COP with her.

The lady took me downstairs to a room and after showering, I got a great semi GFE session with her which means kissing was there but CBJ. She also agreed to getting a few photos with me taken with clothes on after our action without asking for any extra so I decided to give her a 2,000 propina anyway. This session at New Life in my mind certainly made up for last night at the hotel bar.

I didn't realize there was a rainy season in Medellin as the rain started coming down for the evening. I was going to go down to the hotel bar again but decided to just relax in my room for the night since I already had my fun at New Life and thought it would be pretty crappy if it turned out that I ran out of leche for a night session at a much higher price.

The next day I took a day trip to Guatape which is the most colourful little town I've ever been to and also climbed up Piedra El Peno to get some awesome views of the area. To get there, I just took Uber to the North Terminal for buses where at counter #14, the 20,000 COP local bus takes you to Guatape in two hours. This is a day trip I totally recommend as part of the touristy things to do while in Medellin.

For my final night which was Wedesday, I decided to go down to the hotel bar again. Since it started to rain again, I was not going to go out to Parque Lleras or anywhere else. Got down to the bar again at about 10 pm and this time bumped into some cool dudes also staying at the hotel which was great. This is one of the benefits of staying at hotel M because one can meet fellow mongers and share intel plus experiences from not only Medellin but worldwide. One of the guys there I met back in May was also there this night and he just came back from Thailand which is where I'm headed to this November. His insights from his recent trip were quite useful for my upcoming trip.

The bar had only about five or six girls again but they were different from the ones on Monday fortunately. I did pick one out and when she asked me for a drink, I learned my lesson from last time as I wanted to make sure that this was a chica I would likely take before wasting my time and money on drinks. I asked her about rates and she quoted 350,000. I countered at 300,000 thinking that 250,000 would be too far a stretch and she promptly agreed at 300,000 so I bought her a drink. After drinks, I took her back to my room but of course as expected, she registered her ID with the hotel security guy first. It was a decent session but funny how these girls waste no time in dressing up and leaving after I pop. So forget about any stated time of an hour with these girls as it's more like the sessions are done as soon as you pop.

So for my short stay, I had only two girls. Both were good sessions but in all honesty, I felt that the New Life girl was a bit better for me irregardless of the huge price differences between the daytime casa compared to the hotel bar. The guy who was at the bar claimed that the 300,000 rate is pretty well the going rate these days but 250,000 could be had with some of the girls as far as night time goes.

All the guys there agreed that Hotel M is starting to be run down with crappy towels and much needed renovations. Some said they would stay there again because of the user friendliness while some were quite disappointed with the poor turnouts from Monday to Wednesday. I'm undecided at this point as I think it depends on what my future will be like for subsequent trips to Medellin. If I do just daytime casas like New Life and Energy, then I would not need Hotel M's bar. If I pull from Parque Lleras, I could still use Hotel M with its security but it certainly would not be as easy as just going downstairs anymore and in bad wet weather, Parque Lleras would be pretty crappy. I do still appreciate the opportunity to socialize with other fellow mongers at the hotel though as this means that I don't have to go through these trips totally solo all the time. This hotel bar is probably still good on Thursday to Saturday nights but it was not on my trip schedule this time around so perhaps better planning next time would be warranted.

Hope this report helps out some guys out there.

Villainy
10-13-24, 15:56
These girls were rotating through another waiting room at the same time so I was hoping that my chosen one would not be picked by the other dude there. When the hostess came around, she confirmed that my chosen girl was available to me so I took 30 minutes for 70,000 COP with her.

The lady took me downstairs to a room and after showering, I got a great semi GFE session with her which means kissing was there but CBJ. She also agreed to getting a few photos with me taken with clothes on after our action without asking for any extra so I decided to give her a 2,000 propina anyway. This session at New Life in my mind certainly made up for last night at the hotel bar.You sprung for a 2,000 propina? Wow! You know that is a little less than $0.50, right?

HumbleHal
10-13-24, 16:40
I opted to stay at the Hotel Medellin Plaza or more commonly known as the Hotel M mansion again. I know it's overpriced but it turned out to be so user friendly last time with English speaking reception staff, meeting other fellow mongers and the monger bar just downstairs to pull from along with good security.

After relaxing I made my way down to the hotel bar at about 10 pm. In May I had a Thursday, Friday and Saturday night stint there and it was great with enough chicas to choose from. This time on Monday night, I was the only customer there with about five girls inside with only 1-2 I would consider. One of them hit me up for drinks and this is where I made a mistake by agreeing to buy a girl one before committing. As we enjoyed our drinks, I asked if 250,000 COP was acceptable which is what I paid in May assuming that after quotes of 300,000 COP, most girls would agree to go for 250,000. Well to my surprise, this girl refused to go under 300,000 and soon the other girls came as they all started babbling in Spanish. I'm sure that the chica I was talking to was telling the others about our price disagreement and they somehow tried to tell me that none of them would go out for less than 300,000.

I told them that I previously paid 250,000 all the time and mentioned names of two chicas I saw in May. They told me that one of those girls was fired for charging too low which prevented the rest of them from getting any work. I think this was bullcrap since girls working here are all independent. I could have settled for the 300,000 since after conversion, it's only a difference of $20 Cad but I felt that the 'union' of girls there that night caused a less than positive vibe with me so I left opting to go to sleep instead after a long day of travel..I stayed at the Hotel M in February and would agree with you 100%. Bath towels like rags, literally, yet they want $100 US each night. Bring your own towels or buy at them at the mall and do not get a room above the bar, it will be noisy until 1 am. But its a good alternative if you want camaraderie.

Fun Luvr
10-13-24, 17:23
I'm looking for big ol booties (you don't get those in Europe much), I worry the best will be in Parc Lleras but there is no way I would risk that especially being alone!Go to the low cost strip clubs. You should find big booties in all of them. Taxi to and from the clubs in centro at night. Don't be wandering the streets.

Getsum
10-13-24, 18:00
Its been a while since I have been back. Was wondering with all the tension and aggressive tactics from the mayor how Calle 10 was. Is it dead, will you be harassed by the police for talking to Chicas?

GiraffyBoy
10-13-24, 20:10
Casa de cita, burdel, *****house.Thanks to all who replied!

Bandy
10-13-24, 21:34
Depends what you mean by online. The most dangerous is using apps like Tinder to make connections. There are many many examples of guys meeting dates through Tinder and ending up dead. And many many who ended up getting drugged but surviving, minus their stuff.Last November I pulled 7 girls from Tinder. All the experiences were wonderful. I am still alive and kicking. The first Airbnb owner cautioned me about inviting girls. His previous client was robbed and almost died from the drugs. But the tenant specifically brought the girl over to have a drug orgy in the apartment. Now if you sign up for a stupid thing like that, what would you expect? I speak reasonable Spanish, always video chat with the girls (Tinder, Facebook) making sure they are not allowed to use drugs in my apartment. Bring their Cedula, registered them at the front desk and always do a short time session. I only do TLN with girls I know from previous trips. I have been to Medellin many times and never had a problem. Speaking Spanish will go a long way!

Bandy.

Nounce
10-13-24, 23:59
Last November I pulled 7 girls from Tinder. All the experiences were wonderful. I am still alive and kicking. Z is right. It has a high probability and it is not 100%. Because I want to provide some hint in replying your post so I did one simple search. The image is the first in the result. It actually has less to do with drug. Thinking ID check or severance video will keep you safe is mistake. It's good to have them but they won't keep you safe 100% and many don't care.

StyleX
10-14-24, 00:08
If you don't know Spanish (outside of a few words), should you just stick to casas? Sounds like casas are easy and cheap but also don't have the hottest girls, and the fact that you have to tip for BBBJ means that BBBFS might be hard or impossible.

Seems like bare can only be achieved with a bit of negotiation, and are more common with Tinder / Facebook / Seeking girls while nightclub / street walkers are hit or miss there. But to even play that game, you need some Spanish.

Disclaimer: have never been to Colombia.

JellyBear
10-14-24, 12:49
Planning to travel with my friends to Medellin soon. Could if friend have been to Medellin but this is my first time. Travelling from different cities so arriving times will be different. The best flight for me arrives late night and my friends arrive in the morning. Is it safe to hangout in the airport for more than 7 - 8 hours. My buddy who visited couple of times says it's not recommended to take Uber to the Airbnb late at night. Or should I take a hotel near airport and stay the night. And maybe get some action in before my friends arrive.

TIA.

Getsum
10-14-24, 13:09
If you don't know Spanish (outside of a few words), should you just stick to casas? Sounds like casas are easy and cheap but also don't have the hottest girls, and the fact that you have to tip for BBBJ means that BBBFS might be hard or impossible.

Seems like bare can only be achieved with a bit of negotiation, and are more common with Tinder / Facebook / Seeking girls while nightclub / street walkers are hit or miss there. But to even play that game, you need some Spanish.

Disclaimer: have never been to Colombia.You actually don't. Google Translate works just fine for women on the streets. Os it slow and cumbersome, sure but, it is not like you are trying to date and find a gg using translation software. For short term entanglements, it works just fine.

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10-14-24, 16:50
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DiscoverFL
10-14-24, 19:15
Planning to travel with my friends to Medellin soon. Could if friend have been to Medellin but this is my first time. Travelling from different cities so arriving times will be different. The best flight for me arrives late night and my friends arrive in the morning. Is it safe to hangout in the airport for more than 7 - 8 hours. My buddy who visited couple of times says it's not recommended to take Uber to the Airbnb late at night. Or should I take a hotel near airport and stay the night. And maybe get some action in before my friends arrive.

TIA.Walking distance from the airport (just a short walk) is a nice little hotel with food. Just walk there and get some food and rest. Then walk back in the morning. We've used it when an outgoing flight cancels. https://maps.app.goo.gl/cuf2Kkm5Tp5eWW988.

Yuvaraj
10-14-24, 20:16
Thanks for report. I noticed that Thursday and Friday nights are busiest for the bar next door to Hotel M in terms of quantity and quality of the girls. I don't stay at that hotel anymore but I visit the bar time to time because I think the girls you find there are cool generally and the risk is minimized when picking up girls from there.


After a first trip to Medellin in May, I made a quick return visit this past week staying only three nights since I had spent the weekend doing the Panama City scene with an old college buddy. Copa Airlines has a deal right now where a stopover in Panama was free of charge. This time my Medellin stay would be from Monday to Thursday and I opted to stay at the Hotel Medellin Plaza or more commonly known as the Hotel M mansion again. I know it's overpriced but it turned out to be so user friendly last time with English speaking reception staff, meeting other fellow mongers and the monger bar just downstairs to pull from along with good security.

The immigration lines in the afternoon were terrible as it took my 1. 5 hours to get through. Then at the counter, once again I was directed to the 'Canadian' booth where I had to pay a $94 Cad entry fee due to some trade spat Colombia and Canada has. Anyway after getting through I made my way to the cheap airport buses which all the locals take for 15,500 COP which is what I took in May. This is by far the cheapest way into the city. I got off at their stop near San Diego Mall and ordered an Uber to the hotel. No need for costly taxis from the airport. Once checked in I went out across the main street to Ovienda Mall which has a nice food court in the lower level with lots of choices at decent prices. Then went over to the 24 hour pharmacy across from Ovienda Mall to pick up some stuff for my room.

After relaxing I made my way down to the hotel bar at about 10 pm. In May I had a Thursday, Friday and Saturday night stint there and it was great with enough chicas to choose from. This time on Monday night, I was the only customer there with about five girls inside with only 1-2 I would consider. One of them hit me up for drinks and this is where I made a mistake by agreeing to buy a girl one before committing. As we enjoyed our drinks, I asked if 250,000 COP was acceptable which is what I paid in May assuming that after quotes of 300,000 COP, most girls would agree to go for 250,000. Well to my surprise, this girl refused to go under 300,000 and soon the other girls came as they all started babbling in Spanish. I'm sure that the chica I was talking to was telling the others about our price disagreement and they somehow tried to tell me that none of them would go out for less than 300,000.

I told them that I previously paid 250,000 all the time and mentioned names of two chicas I saw in May. They told me that one of those girls was fired for charging too low which prevented the rest of them from getting any work. I think this was bullcrap since girls working here are all independent. I could have settled for the 300,000 since after conversion, it's only a difference of $20 Cad but I felt that the 'union' of girls there that night caused a less than positive vibe with me so I left opting to go to sleep instead after a long day of travel.

The next morning I decided to Uber it out to the New Life casa to get some action after getting nothing the night before. I've been to New Life once before and had a great time there. This time I once again went through the blue door and got buzzed up where a lady host was waiting. After directed to a waiting room, a line up of about 15 girls came by one at a time introducing themselves. Overall the quality was crap in my opinion as most of them were fatties although I'm sure some customers who like beefier woman might like them. Luckily for me, there were two slim ones who were acceptable to me and the last one in the line up was just my type. These girls were rotating through another waiting room at the same time so I was hoping that my chosen one would not be picked by the other dude there. When the hostess came around, she confirmed that my chosen girl was available to me so I took 30 minutes for 70,000 COP with her.

The lady took me downstairs to a room and after showering, I got a great semi GFE session with her which means kissing was there but CBJ. She also agreed to getting a few photos with me taken with clothes on after our action without asking for any extra so I decided to give her a 2,000 propina anyway. This session at New Life in my mind certainly made up for last night at the hotel bar.

I didn't realize there was a rainy season in Medellin as the rain started coming down for the evening. I was going to go down to the hotel bar again but decided to just relax in my room for the night since I already had my fun at New Life and thought it would be pretty crappy if it turned out that I ran out of leche for a night session at a much higher price.

The next day I took a day trip to Guatape which is the most colourful little town I've ever been to and also climbed up Piedra El Peno to get some awesome views of the area. To get there, I just took Uber to the North Terminal for buses where at counter #14, the 20,000 COP local bus takes you to Guatape in two hours. This is a day trip I totally recommend as part of the touristy things to do while in Medellin.

For my final night which was Wedesday, I decided to go down to the hotel bar again. Since it started to rain again, I was not going to go out to Parque Lleras or anywhere else. Got down to the bar again at about 10 pm and this time bumped into some cool dudes also staying at the hotel which was great. This is one of the benefits of staying at hotel M because one can meet fellow mongers and share intel plus experiences from not only Medellin but worldwide. One of the guys there I met back in May was also there this night and he just came back from Thailand which is where I'm headed to this November. His insights from his recent trip were quite useful for my upcoming trip.

The bar had only about five or six girls again but they were different from the ones on Monday fortunately. I did pick one out and when she asked me for a drink, I learned my lesson from last time as I wanted to make sure that this was a chica I would likely take before wasting my time and money on drinks. I asked her about rates and she quoted 350,000. I countered at 300,000 thinking that 250,000 would be too far a stretch and she promptly agreed at 300,000 so I bought her a drink. After drinks, I took her back to my room but of course as expected, she registered her ID with the hotel security guy first. It was a decent session but funny how these girls waste no time in dressing up and leaving after I pop. So forget about any stated time of an hour with these girls as it's more like the sessions are done as soon as you pop.

So for my short stay, I had only two girls. Both were good sessions but in all honesty, I felt that the New Life girl was a bit better for me irregardless of the huge price differences between the daytime casa compared to the hotel bar. The guy who was at the bar claimed that the 300,000 rate is pretty well the going rate these days but 250,000 could be had with some of the girls as far as night time goes.

All the guys there agreed that Hotel M is starting to be run down with crappy towels and much needed renovations. Some said they would stay there again because of the user friendliness while some were quite disappointed with the poor turnouts from Monday to Wednesday. I'm undecided at this point as I think it depends on what my future will be like for subsequent trips to Medellin. If I do just daytime casas like New Life and Energy, then I would not need Hotel M's bar. If I pull from Parque Lleras, I could still use Hotel M with its security but it certainly would not be as easy as just going downstairs anymore and in bad wet weather, Parque Lleras would be pretty crappy. I do still appreciate the opportunity to socialize with other fellow mongers at the hotel though as this means that I don't have to go through these trips totally solo all the time. This hotel bar is probably still good on Thursday to Saturday nights but it was not on my trip schedule this time around so perhaps better planning next time would be warranted.

Hope this report helps out some guys out there.

DiscoverFL
10-14-24, 21:09
After relaxing I made my way down to the hotel bar at about 10 pm One of them hit me up for drinks and this is where I made a mistake by agreeing to buy a girl one before committing. As we enjoyed our drinks, I asked if 250,000 COP was acceptable which is what I paid in May assuming that after quotes of 300,000 COP, most girls would agree to go for 250,000. Well to my surprise, this girl refused to go under 300,000 I told them that I previously paid 250,000 all the time and mentioned names of two chicas I saw in May. They told me that one of those girls was fired for charging too low which prevented the rest of them from getting any work. I think this was bullcrap since girls working here are all independent. ... For my final night which was Wedesday, I decided to go down to the hotel bar again. ... The bar had only about five or six girls again but they were different from the ones on Monday fortunately. I did pick one out and when she asked me for a drink, I learned my lesson from last time as I wanted to make sure that this was a chica I would likely take before wasting my time and money on drinks. I asked her about rates and she quoted 350,000. I countered at 300,000 thinking that 250,000 would be too far a stretch and she promptly agreed at 300,000 so I bought her a drink. It was a decent session but funny how these girls waste no time in dressing up and leaving after I pop. So forget about any stated time of an hour with these girls as it's more like the sessions are done as soon as you pop.Just because in the past, in times of desperation, girls have agreed to $250 k doesn't make that the going rate. The going rate is really $300-400 k COP or $75-$100 USD. If you focus on negotiating a girl down to the bottom-acceptable-rate, you should not be surprised that the girl will just want to offer the bottom-acceptable-service.

My advice is to not sweat that $25 different and just give them $400 k and you will find the girls are in no-rush, take their time, hang out, etc. You met their goal for the night, so they are in no hurry to try to find another opportunity. Personally, I never offer them anything specific. If a new girl who doesn't know me inquires I only answer "don't worry, I'll take care of you". Then I feel comfort in giving them between $350 k (if disappointed) to $500 k (for that rare really amazing one I plan to keep seeing). I pay what it is worth to me, the girls have spread the word I am a reliable one and if you make me happy, I pay more so no one ever asks me how much, they hang as long as I want them to, and never are rushed or concerned.

When I talk to these girls, they are always telling me about the cheap guys who negotiate them down to bare bones pricing and how they are disgusted by their cheapness. I can see if that is how they feel about it, how that directly leads to terrible / quick service. They feel the pressure to get going to see if they can find another opportunity to make up the loss revenue.

Also, regarding drinks. $3 USD for a drink is nothing. I'm always identifying 2-3 favorites and giving them drinks on me, they then introduce me new girls, hang with me, and even screen girls for me. A little generosity not only makes you feel like a king but gets you real VIP style treatment. Want to really make them happy? Offer spend $10 USD on some Rappi and get them some fried chicken.

Fun Luvr
10-14-24, 21:44
Just because in the past, in times of desperation, girls have agreed to $250 k doesn't make that the going rate. The going rate is really $300-400 k COP or $75-$100 USDI hope you are referring only to the chicas at the Mansion. I have many friends who are happy to receive 250 mil. I know they are happy because many of them contact me to ask when they can return. I'm confident my friends are better in all aspects than almost all the Mansion chicas. I've only stayed at the Mansion three days, a few years ago. The reports I'm seeing are that the quality of the chicas is going down, not getting better.

I don't care what anyone else pays. I just want to clarify that the rates you stated do not apply outside the Mansion and, probably, Parque Lleras.

Fun Luvr
10-14-24, 22:16
Planning to travel with my friends to Medellin soon. Could if friend have been to Medellin but this is my first time. Travelling from different cities so arriving times will be different. The best flight for me arrives late night and my friends arrive in the morning. Is it safe to hangout in the airport for more than 7 - 8 hours. My buddy who visited couple of times says it's not recommended to take Uber to the Airbnb late at night. Or should I take a hotel near airport and stay the night. And maybe get some action in before my friends arrive.TIA.I definitely wouldn't hang out at the airport for 7 - 8 hours. Not because of the lack of safety, but because it is so uncomfortable. If you already have the Airbnb rented for that night, that's where I'd go. You can take the white airport taxi into Medellin. They have a drop-off point, but usually the driver will take you to where you are staying for 15-20 mil extra. Or you can take an Uber. Just check to see that the driver has more than a few reviews. Either method should be safe.

It will be difficult to find a chica near the airport.

Jeffers69
10-15-24, 00:38
Go to the low cost strip clubs. You should find big booties in all of them. Taxi to and from the clubs in centro at night. Don't be wandering the streets.Thanks man, any suggestions for the low cost ones? So many 😅.

Also anyone in Medellin at the moment up for a drink?

CeeJay1
10-15-24, 01:21
I got off at their stop near San Diego Mall and ordered an Uber to the hotel. By chance do you remember which autobus the name of the destination diplayed on the bus. It's good to know if I stay near the San Diego mall, instead of the usual el Centro one.


She also agreed to getting a few photos with me taken with clothes on after our action without asking for any extra so I decided to give her a 2,000 propina anyway. In some degree you probably over paid by giving her anything, since she had her clothes on and didn't asked for anything. But good job on not giving her a ridiculous tip for really doing nothing. I always give them what they agree upon up front. From my experience the ones that don't want to do-barely anything or the the bare minimal are ones that bust your chops for a propina at the end.

Gabacho
10-15-24, 01:22
I definitely wouldn't hang out at the airport for 7 - 8 hours. Not because of the lack of safety, but because it is so uncomfortable. If you already have the Airbnb rented for that night, that's where I'd go. You can take the white airport taxi into Medellin. They have a drop-off point, but usually the driver will take you to where you are staying for 15-20 mil extra. Or you can take an Uber. Just check to see that the driver has more than a few reviews. Either method should be safe.

It will be difficult to find a chica near the airport. Actually I have heard that there is a small street scene in the town of Rio Negro near the airport. Some of the vennies I used to see would go work there on the weekends and then come back to Medellin during the week.

As far as staying in the airport overnight tho that would be incredibly boring, especially that airport it's so small and has only a cpl restaurants which are all inside the terminal last security. Unless if he wants to hang out at Juan valdez drinking coffee the whole time or eating empanada at that small street food type area in the outside part then I wouldn't advise that.

Dude should just hop. On the bus to san diego for 15,500 COP. I believe from the airport to Medellin the busses are 24 hours a day they only have hours when leaving from Medellin to the airport. He could easily get out COP currency at one of the atms inside the airport and then hop on the bus to San diego and then take a taxi or Uber / Indrive to his airbnb or hotel no matter what time it is.

Gabacho.

Gabacho
10-15-24, 01:30
By chance do you remember which autobus the name of the destination diplayed on the bus. It's good to know if I stay near the San Diego mall, instead of the usual el Centro one.Just ask the driver "va para san diego?" if he says si then that's the bus you want, if he says no then that's the other one that goes to terminal del Norte and centro. Usually if he says no he will point out the correct bus that does go to San Diego which is usually the one in front parked up more.

Nounce
10-15-24, 01:44
Planning to travel with my friends to Medellin soon.On top of what Fun Luvr suggested, Google MDE taxi and you will find more info than what we can type here. You can look for the Medellin Guru web site. You can prebook a car too.

CK465
10-15-24, 02:35
I did get the BBBJ after complaining and giving her the option to leave, and I did penetrate her, though she resisted like it was a wresting match. I thought 200 K was a fair portion for what she had earned and paid her that. She did not complain as she was putting on her close, so it was fair for her also. About $55 US. After she left I jacked off and went to sleep.Do you, man. With 200 K I saw 3 girls in one day, busted with each one. Planning a trip at the end of December to January and going to hit Cartagena too. Might see 20+ while I'm down there, LOL. We'll see.

RacShack
10-15-24, 03:04
Do you, man. With 200 K I saw 3 girls in one day, busted with each one. Planning a trip at the end of December to January and going to hit Cartagena too. Might see 20+ while I'm down there, LOL. We'll see.Unless Cartagena is a bucket list thing, may I suggest totally skipping if your going there for mongering (your about 5 years late) for that type of trip! Good luck any no matter what you do have fun, travel safe! !

Exoticspirit
10-15-24, 03:32
By chance do you remember which autobus the name of the destination diplayed on the bus. It's good to know if I stay near the San Diego mall, instead of the usual el Centro one.
.The bus from the airport is at the far right when you exit the arrivals terminal and the name of the company is Combus. It is the only bus line there and at the front of the bus is the cost at 15,500 at present. It stops only at two places mainly which is near San Diego Mall near the underpass of the road and Nutra Hotel in Centro.

Exoticspirit
10-15-24, 03:37
I pay what it is worth to me, the girls have spread the word I am a reliable one and if you make me happy, I pay more so no one ever asks me how much, they hang as long as I want them to, and never are rushed or concerned.

When I talk to these girls, they are always telling me about the cheap guys who negotiate them down to bare bones pricing and how they are disgusted by their cheapness. I can see if that is how they feel about it, how that directly leads to terrible / quick service. They feel the pressure to get going to see if they can find another opportunity to make up the loss revenue.

Also, regarding drinks. $3 USD for a drink is nothing. I'm always identifying 2-3 favorites and giving them drinks on me, they then introduce me new girls, hang with me, and even screen girls for me. A little generosity not only makes you feel like a king but gets you real VIP style treatment. Want to really make them happy? Offer spend $10 USD on some Rappi and get them some fried chicken.Thanks for your insights. Things to think about for next time when I return in 2025. Live and learn.

Gabacho
10-15-24, 03:45
The bus from the airport is at the far right when you exit the arrivals terminal and the name of the company is Combus. It is the only bus line there and at the front of the bus is the cost at 15,500 at present. It stops only at two places mainly which is near San Diego Mall near the underpass of the road and Nutra Hotel in Centro.Yea but there are two different routes, he needs to make sure he gets. On the one that goes to San Diego. The other one that goes to nuttibara hotel doesn't stop at San Diego and it takes a much longer route bypassing the tunnel and it takes a much longer time to get to Medellin.

JimmyStreets
10-15-24, 04:07
Just because in the past, in times of desperation, girls have agreed to $250 k doesn't make that the going rate. The going rate is really $300-400 k COP or $75-$100 USD. If you focus on negotiating a girl down to the bottom-acceptable-rate, you should not be surprised that the girl will just want to offer the bottom-acceptable-service.

My advice is to not sweat that $25 different and just give them $400 k and you will find the girls are in no-rush, take their time, hang out, etc. You met their goal for the night, so they are in no hurry to try to find another opportunity. Personally, I never offer them anything specific. If a new girl who doesn't know me inquires I only answer "don't worry, I'll take care of you". Then I feel comfort in giving them between $350 k (if disappointed) to $500 k (for that rare really amazing one I plan to keep seeing). I pay what it is worth to me, the girls have spread the word I am a reliable one and if you make me happy, I pay more so no one ever asks me how much, they hang as long as I want them to, and never are rushed or concerned.

When I talk to these girls, they are always telling me about the cheap guys who negotiate them down to bare bones pricing and how they are disgusted by their cheapness. I can see if that is how they feel about it, how that directly leads to terrible / quick service. They feel the pressure to get going to see if they can find another opportunity to make up the loss revenue.

Also, regarding drinks. $3 USD for a drink is nothing. I'm always identifying 2-3 favorites and giving them drinks on me, they then introduce me new girls, hang with me, and even screen girls for me. A little generosity not only makes you feel like a king but gets you real VIP style treatment. Want to really make them happy? Offer spend $10 USD on some Rappi and get them some fried chicken.Dance with the devil enough you will get burned. You'll run into the wrong one eventually if your not being clear and upfront about pricing. I would not recommend anyone to take your approach of not negotiating an actual price. One day you will get an expectation for 2 or 3 milliones from the wrong girl. Think it can't happen. It can and does eventually. Overpay, underpay whatever floats your boat. Just be clear to avoid issues.

Nounce
10-15-24, 06:18
So for my short stayIn the future get the number of the girls you like and make your offer for next day. 250 is a reasonable amount, there is no reason to pay much more. You will have more confidence once you have more contacts. I think it actually exposed your weakness when you told the girl the name of other girl during negotiation.

Keep in mind, not every girl is the same, you are different from others as well. You have to be able to see the context. The girl that stay with me longer is because 1. I am a repeat business and 2. I am always available. Would you stay longer if you know you won't see your customer again? There are other factors. You should see them if you read between the lines.

You can ask the girl to stay the 1 hour she has agreed to if you have it in writing. You can deduct the pay if she leaves early. It does not always work but some will stay. If you are in a good building that the doorman will help you, you are more likely to have success paying a reduced amount when the girl insist on leaving early. I am not suggesting or recommending that you do it, It is for information purpose.

I was wondering why a girl had no money saved when I think she should be popular. I found out it was because she was lazy and didn't work regularly. She was desperate for work only when she ran out of money. In her situation, do you think you need to pay her 500 to get better performance than paying her 200.


Majority of the girls I know pay very little in rent and food. They only need 100 mil for food a week. A girl I know recently moved to an estrato 3 apartment for 700 mil a month. Many of them pay less than that.

Just some examples to think about, and I hope you get the idea what I am trying to convey.

Mr Enternational
10-15-24, 15:52
Do you, man. With 200 K I saw 3 girls in one day, busted with each one. Planning a trip at the end of December to January and going to hit Cartagena too. Might see 20+ while I'm down there, LOL. We'll see.You definitely will not be pulling that off in Cartagena. You better double it to see 1 girl.

Knowledge
10-15-24, 16:10
It is even easier than that. The routes are displayed above the bus windshields. To confirm, no Spanish is needed, you can say "San Diego" in the heaviest gringo accent and the driver will motion you aboard or gesture toward another bus or waiting line if the other bus hasn't arrived.


Just ask the driver "va para san diego?" if he says si then that's the bus you want, if he says no then that's the other one that goes to terminal del Norte and centro. Usually if he says no he will point out the correct bus that does go to San Diego which is usually the one in front parked up more.

Fun Luvr
10-15-24, 17:55
Thanks man, any suggestions for the low cost ones? Most of the ones in el centro are close together, so go until you find what you like. Chicas usually don't stay at a strip club very long. What you see today may not be there tomorrow.

Jeffers69
10-15-24, 20:19
Most of the ones in el centro are close together, so go until you find what you like. Chicas usually don't stay at a strip club very long. What you see today may not be there tomorrow.Thank you going to try a few today (in the day), will report back (although I know it's Tuesday, and the day after a national holiday).

I have been hinting high and low and can't find any short term hotels that ask for ID near Parc Lleras, is there a space on the forum that has these? If anyone knows I'd be very grateful!

Manizales911
10-15-24, 20:20
Can anyone tell me what the chica policy is at the Art Hotel?

Turgid
10-15-24, 21:39
My last trip to Medellin was in 2019. In all my trips up to then I gave detailed reports of my casa exploits but this site has moved away from the casa experience so I will not bore you with details. What I will report is that I have observed two main differences from back then and neither is good.

The first one is the absence of the hot Venezuelanas. In 2019 I sessioned many really sensational Vennies. Now there seem to be only Colombianas and many gordas as has been reported before. Nevertheless, there are some reasonably sized chicas to be found (I do not like plus sized nor flakitas). I think it was on the Medellin forum that a poster was anxious about getting the big booty chicas, well, believe me, he won't be disappointed in the casas.

The second difference is the decline in service. I have encountered too many dead fishes who put no zeal in the session and, what's with the upselling, BBBJ, DATY, DFK are all being upsold and one chica even tried to upsell me sucking on her nipples.

I have three more weeks here and really hope that things improve. I am hoping that I just made some bad choices when choosing the hottest chicas in the lineup, perhaps I should try some of the bigger girls, not too big though.

Another difference that's not really important is the absence of gringos in the casas. Its really like the old times (Colombian chicas and Colombian clients). What happened to the brothas? They were in abundance in my last visit. The quality may be down in the casas but not the quantity. New Life had about 30 today. BTW, speaking of New Life I saw a 9 in there on two occasions and each time she was going to the room with a client. I suspect what I have always suspected about New Life in that they have girls they reserve for special customers as she has never been in the lineup. 5 foot 7 inches, slim, great body and amazing face. Perhaps starfish experience but I would not hesitate to choose her.

Recondite
10-15-24, 23:04
My last trip to Medellin was in 2019. In all my trips up to then I gave detailed reports of my casa exploits but this site has moved away from the casa experience so I will not bore you with details. .Tried to send you a message but your inbox is full. I definitely frequent a few casas in addition to Facebook and contacts. Info on casas is always welcome. I still think they can be a good value at the right spot with the right attitude. I recently joined a Colombian telegram group with reviews of girls and adds for a lot of casas. Happy to forward you pr anyone else the link over private message. There are a couple I saw on the Telegram group I want to try when I'm back in Medellin in a couple of weeks.

The Dark Lord101
10-16-24, 00:40
Tried to send you a message but your inbox is full. I definitely frequent a few casas in addition to Facebook and contacts. Info on casas is always welcome. I still think they can be a good value at the right spot with the right attitude. I recently joined a Colombian telegram group with reviews of girls and adds for a lot of casas. Happy to forward you pr anyone else the link over private message. There are a couple I saw on the Telegram group I want to try when I'm back in Medellin in a couple of weeks.Hi Recondite. I have sent you a PM.

Exoticspirit
10-16-24, 01:49
My last trip to Medellin was in 2019. In all my trips up to then I gave detailed reports of my casa exploits but this site has moved away from the casa experience so I will not bore you with details. What I will report is that I have observed two main differences from back then and neither is good.I've only been to New Life both last week and my first trip in May. I liked my visits there and would definitely go again when I'm back in Medellin plus I would be open to trying Energy as well. One thing I do like about the casas besides the better pricing compared to night options is that everything is shifted to the day time. I personally don't like staying out and up so late. I just don't understand why the Hotel M bar, Parque Lleras and other night options start so darn late. I for one prefer to be busy with both sight seeing and getting in a session during the day. For my next trip down there, I might even move more towards the casas as my main outlet rather than the bars and Parque Lleras.

BuckeyeNerd
10-16-24, 04:13
Tried to send you a message but your inbox is full. I definitely frequent a few casas in addition to Facebook and contacts. Info on casas is always welcome. I still think they can be a good value at the right spot with the right attitude. I recently joined a Colombian telegram group with reviews of girls and adds for a lot of casas. Happy to forward you pr anyone else the link over private message. There are a couple I saw on the Telegram group I want to try when I'm back in Medellin in a couple of weeks.Sent you a pm, would love to coordinate with others. Hell, happy to make friends on the ground when I arrive.

Gabacho
10-16-24, 04:49
I've only been to New Life both last week and my first trip in May. I liked my visits there and would definitely go again when I'm back in Medellin plus I would be open to trying Energy as well. One thing I do like about the casas besides the better pricing compared to night options is that everything is shifted to the day time. I personally don't like staying out and up so late. I just don't understand why the Hotel M bar, Parque Lleras and other night options start so darn late. I for one prefer to be busy with both sight seeing and getting in a session during the day. For my next trip down there, I might even move more towards the casas as my main outlet rather than the bars and Parque Lleras.If you like parque lleras check out plaza botero / vera cruz church area. The majority of the street girls are the same and unlike parque lleras the action is during the day and at a fraction of the cost because it is geared toward locals whereas lleras is geared towards gringo foreigners.

And regardless of what some guys say here, there are some real beautiful diamonds in the rough to be found there and the area is not dangerous during the daytime hours.
Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.

Captain Solo
10-16-24, 07:01
Gabacho is right.

Park Lleras is mostly hardened, ugly, tatted freaks.

Around the Vera Cruz church at Plaza Botero there are many nice, fresh, hot girls, Colombians and Venezuelans. They charge about $10 for ST, easier to deal with and are much better companies. I repeated with a few very nice girls and gave their tels to a few bros. They liked those girls.


If you like parque lleras check out plaza botero / vera cruz church area. The majority of the street girls are the same and unlike parque lleras the action is during the day and at a fraction of the cost because it is geared toward locals whereas lleras is geared towards gringo foreigners.

And regardless of what some guys say here, there are some real beautiful diamonds in the rough to be found there and the area is not dangerous during the daytime hours.
Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.

Lucky Nuts
10-16-24, 10:40
If you like parque lleras check out plaza botero / vera cruz church area. The majority of the street girls are the same and unlike parque lleras the action is during the day and at a fraction of the cost because it is geared toward locals whereas lleras is geared towards gringo foreigners.

And regardless of what some guys say here, there are some real beautiful diamonds in the rough to be found there and the area is not dangerous during the daytime hours.
Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.100 percent agree. A couple weeks ago found a fresh 18 year old Vennie with a hot little body and really pretty face and smile. She asked 50 mil but agreed to 40. Think the room was 15 more if I remember correctly.

After that found another hot Vennie in one of the bars across from Botero Plaza. She would not go lower than 100 mil but was well worth it. I think most still charge 80 though.

So I think the reason the Vennies aren't in the casas anymore is they have moved to these two areas. And yeah feels very safe until dark.

Turgid
10-16-24, 17:03
Many years ago I checked out Parque Lleras and just found it to be a tourist trap which I always avoid anywhere in the world I travel to. The street girls in Centro are not my scene; I have walked through those areas and have seen doable chicas but never pulled the trigger. I have indeed partaken of street girls in places such as the Catacombs in Chang Ping, China (many years ago), Geylang in Singapore (many years ago), Sosua, DR and Sonagashi, India but the street scene in Colombia never appealed to me as there are palpably better options. In the past I have made dates with diamonds in the rough from casas outside their place of work where we ended up in short time hotels for our frolics in the sack. Much prefer that than with an untried and untested street walker. Have not met any diamonds yet this trip but hopeful.

MoonShot
10-16-24, 17:15
If you like parque lleras check out plaza botero / vera cruz church area. The majority of the street girls are the same and unlike parque lleras the action is during the day and at a fraction of the cost because it is geared toward locals whereas lleras is geared towards gringo foreigners.

And regardless of what some guys say here, there are some real beautiful diamonds in the rough to be found there and the area is not dangerous during the daytime hours.
Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.I am in Medellin and have been to El Centro a number of times and Park Llleras a number of times. I disagree that the majority of street girls are the same in both El Centro and Park Llleras. While it may be true that SOME of the girls may be the same, I don't think that it is true that most are the same based on my personal experience. I don't see the pretty girls in Park Lleras hanging around in El Centro. But it is true that there are average looking girls in both places. I think that there are more attractive girls in Park Lleras on the whole. Most of the girls in El Centro are unattractive and I don't think there can be disagreement on that because it is the lowest of the low in terms of prices and that is where you would expect the worse girls to be. Now it is possible to find a small number of attractive girls in El Centro if you are diligent, particularly girls from Venz. Due to the identification card issue.

Guys who love El Centro want to think that they are paying less for the exact same girl in Park Lleras. Whether it is true or not, they tend to be bias in believing this. On the other hand, guys picking up girls in Park Llleras want to think that the girls that they are picking up are not the same girls in El Centro so they are bias in this manner. All I can tell you is that I don't pick up girls from either places so I could care less.

JustTK
10-16-24, 19:34
Why are you paying that much for a crappy experience? You clearly didn't have a good time and it seems like the first time you two met. You can get a way better experience at a Casa for way cheaper. Doesn't make sense IMO.I guess its bcos there are so many on here that write about paying 200,300, 400 , or more, even for a short time session, that they normalise paying high prices in the eyes of new readers here. Tell a lie so many times then it becomes the truth.

JustTK
10-16-24, 19:45
The going rate is really $300-400 k COP or $75-$100 USD. If you focus on negotiating a girl down to the bottom-acceptable-rate, you should not be surprised that the girl will just want to offer the bottom-acceptable-service.

My advice is to not sweat that $25 different and just give them $400 k and you will find the girls are in no-rush, take their time, hang out, etc. Then I feel comfort in giving them between $350 k (if disappointed) to $500 k (for that rare really amazing one I plan to keep seeing). See what I mean?

Jeffers69
10-16-24, 20:02
I did my first day in Medellin yesterday (thanks to all the help here).

I visited Centro in the day, Botero park, calle 52/53, then Parc Lleras in the evening, followed by Barra Ejecutivo, Playmates and Fase II. Came close to going to Mayorista but thankfully read it is dead now.

This really is the wild west / gritty (and I have punted in Philippines, Thailand, Korea, Geylang etc). Certainly not as easy as Thailand! I bare in mind that it was Tuesday but I think you really need to get your hands dirty to meet your desired women here. Found the women in the 3 strip bars quite lacking, Fase II women quite pushy, Ejecutivo my favourite of the 3 and I think has potential closer towards the end of the week. There is a lot of BBL here (not my cup of tea) and I'm missing the naturally bigger assed women I though Colombia was known for).

Like I say I have only been here one day so I clearly have a lot to discover (and am having fun). Think I'll try a Centro woman today, or maybe a Casa, seems the higher chance of meeting posterior gifted woman (haven't shagged yet!

On a non punting level, El Poblares is lovely, it however feels like a "digital nomads" wet dream, and is very much Westernised. Centro is Colombia, so much more fun and feels like you are in another country. Medellin feels a lot safer than I feared (I continue to maintain alertness and careful with possessions however).

Might hit Sosua or stay here for a while longer, will see how it goes, and will report any info I get.

Jeffers69
10-16-24, 21:45
I did my first day in Medellin yesterday (thanks to all the help here).

I visited Centro in the day, Botero park, calle 52/53, then Parc Lleras in the evening, followed by Barra Ejecutivo, Playmates and Fase II. Came close to going to Mayorista but thankfully read it is dead now.

This really is the wild west / gritty (and I have punted in Philippines, Thailand, Korea, Geylang etc). Certainly not as easy as Thailand! I bare in mind that it was Tuesday but I think you really need to get your hands dirty to meet your desired women here. Found the women in the 3 strip bars quite lacking, Fase II women quite pushy, Ejecutivo my favourite of the 3 and I think has potential closer towards the end of the week. There is a lot of BBL here (not my cup of tea) and I'm missing the naturally bigger assed women I though Colombia was known for).

Like I say I have only been here one day so I clearly have a lot to discover (and am having fun). Think I'll try an Centro woman today, or maybe a Casa, seems the higher chance of meeting posterior gifted woman.

On a non punting level, El Poblado is lovely, it however feels like a "digital nomads" wet dream, and is very much Westernised. Centro is Colombia, so much more fun and feels like you are in another country. Medellin feels a lot safer than I feared (I continue to maintain alertness and careful with possessions however).

Might hit Sosua or stay here for a while longer, will see how it goes, and will report any info I get.

If anyone fancies teaming up or a beer let me know.

Mr Enternational
10-16-24, 22:37
When I talk to these girls, they are always telling me about the cheap guys who negotiate them down to bare bones pricing and how they are disgusted by their cheapness. I can see if that is how they feel about it, how that directly leads to terrible / quick service. They feel the pressure to get going to see if they can find another opportunity to make up the loss revenue.
That is hilarious. Listening to a hooker that tells you guys should want to pay more, when they are already paying way too much. They are not disgusted by the fact that they are hookers, just disgusted that guys do not want to give them more money. They are not going to stay any longer or do any more for 300 K, than they are for 250 K.

What lost revenue? They started from 0! Anything they take in is gained revenue. They can not count on what they MIGHT or COULD get. Hell, so they should blow off the 500 K guy because they might "lose revenue" messing with him by missing the imaginary guy who is going to come in and pay 1,000,000? Yeah just wait 30 more minutes chick; he will be here shortly. They had better learn to take what is on offer or go home empty.

Husker Dude
10-16-24, 23:55
See what I mean?He's referring to Mansion bar chicas wanting that price.

Turgid
10-16-24, 23:57
Today I met my first Vennie this trip. The lineup at Chicas punto com of about 10 girls was presented to me and as soon as I saw her I knew that she was Venezuelan. I paid COP 70,000 for the half hour and the session was going so well I extended by another half hour for the same price. In previous trips Chicas punto com was always able to provide me with Vennies. Sofia delivered reasonably good service with various positions accompanied by GFE and a good time was had by all concerned. My beef with Cpc is the habitacion which is rather dingy (although porn was on display). As a matter of fact Centro casa rooms are not very pleasant but as Bob Barker would agree 'the price is right'. Nevertheless, a nice room makes the experience so much better.

HumbleHal
10-17-24, 00:10
Around the Vera Cruz church at Plaza Botero there are many nice, fresh, hot girls, Colombians and Venezuelans. They charge about $10 for ST, easier to deal with and are much better companies. I repeated with a few very nice girls and gave their tels to a few bros. They liked those girls.Many of the girls you talk about are really nuns or others are travesties, at bargain rates. I hope you did not repeat or enjoy them.

MaddTraveler
10-17-24, 01:24
Sharing a quick update.

Don't sleep the casas fellas despites any negative reviews you may read. A recent post mentioned they went in 2019, few pages back someone was talking about casas from his experience in 2011. Come on yall LOL. Even if you went to a casa last month, it's not the same today as they always have new fresh rotation of girls. The one where the wgs stay longer is New Life. Most relaxed and non-rushed feel and appeal bc you pay after you're done. Safe to assume the girls feel comfy there also like we do.

So before I left town about two weeks ago, I gave ZANDALY a try since it was about a year prior that I went; and WOW, 10 girls of which at least 6 were 7+, top 3 were in the 8+ range. I picked one and paid 100 k for the HR. I won't share her name but she was so sweet, gym-built body, total GFE. The rooms and showers in both Amiga Sexy and Zandaly are cleaner vs New Life BTW. So after I got done with the first round in 20 minutes, I didn't mind taking a nice shower, and while putting my drawers on, she was oh baby we got plenty of time, come to bed. A lot girls even in parque lleras where we pay 400 k or more usually don't do that and instead they hope we're done quickly so they can leave. But the fact that she offered a massage, and a second round herself, damn. I got even more turned on and went missionary balls deep that time. First round was doggy pound.

She told me she dated a gringo, then dude left the country so she's back to work and want to leave the industry to open a clothing shop soon. Pillow chat during rest. I was like dude was broke and didn't help you financially enough did he? She laughed and said obviously or wouldn't come back to this.

I fucked up bc she said she'd be happy to join me in Bogota for few days or week for a getaway if I invite her, after I told where I'm headed. But by the time I left I accidently deleted her number. Usually I only keep long-term friends, gfs or chicas saved and delete all casa and centro chicas contacts when I leave, and forgot to keep hers. What made it worse is she wrote me, and I made another error when I replied and told her she got the wrong #, since she never had a zap profile pic. As soon as I deleted the mssg and number I immediately recalled the #. Point is there are some nice gals in those casas, and treat her well if your lucky to meet her.

I said lucky bc unless you go there at 11 A-12, you will likely be sitted in the back room instead of the front couches, and they will present the ugly ones only. I swear they do that there and I confirmed it with a local. Also why I took so long to return. So their secret is go early. Now they open at 10 a I believe, and there were lots of young local fellas there when I arrived at 11 A. All the hot ones get snatched quickly, and it seems management stop presenting the ones that already got smashed 5-10 times early, and after 2 p or so they want to give the other ones a chance. It's business and they do that in Brazil too. For Amiga Sexy, oh sweet jezus I met a solid 9 there about a month back also. Lawd have mercy. Go hunting my lads. Hopefully not all 5000 of you show up at once and damage one of my future wives.

Fun Luvr
10-17-24, 01:52
For those who don't scroll down to see all the topics on this forum, Kazeu has a post in the Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments thread about Airbnb's new policy for rentals in Medellin. Here's a link to Airbnb's statement: https://news.airbnb.com/ea/airbnb-anuncia-nuevas-acciones-para-ayudar-a-combatir-la-explotacion-y-trata-de-personas-en-alianza-con-el-gobierno-de-medellin/ An excerpt from the statement "If the platform is informed in the future that any host is permissive of sex work during reservations on Airbnb, Airbnb will strictly enforce its policies and take action against those hosts." Also this: "Airbnb will implement this September a measure that requires any guest worldwide who wishes to make a reservation in the city of Medellin to attest that they understand Airbnb's policies that strictly prohibit the use of all accommodations for sex work and/or sex tourism."

Huacho
10-17-24, 04:24
For those who don't scroll down to see all the topics on this forum, Kazeu has a post in the Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments thread about Airbnb's new policy for rentals in Medellin. Here's a link to Airbnb's statement: https://news.airbnb.com/ea/airbnb-anuncia-nuevas-acciones-para-ayudar-a-combatir-la-explotacion-y-trata-de-personas-en-alianza-con-el-gobierno-de-medellin/ An excerpt from the statement "If the platform is informed in the future that any host is permissive of sex work during reservations on Airbnb, Airbnb will strictly enforce its policies and take action against those hosts." Also this: "Airbnb will implement this September a measure that requires any guest worldwide who wishes to make a reservation in the city of Medellin to attest that they understand Airbnb's policies that strictly prohibit the use of all accommodations for sex work and/or sex tourism."This is why I prefer booking.com, and the owners can't rate you. You get more professional landlords, vs douche bags renting out their apartments and going to stay with their mamas and stuff.

JustTK
10-17-24, 14:45
He's referring to Mansion bar chicas wanting that price.Actually, I got my sayings confused, hehe. I meant to hint at the illusory truth. Say something enough times and it becomes the truth, not necessarily meaning a lie.

MoonShot
10-17-24, 15:59
Sharing a quick update.

Don't sleep the casas fellas despites any negative reviews you may read. A recent post mentioned they went in 2019, few pages back someone was talking about casas from his experience in 2011. Come on yall LOL. Even if you went to a casa last month, it's not the same today as they always have new fresh rotation of girls. The one where the wgs stay longer is New Life. Most relaxed and non-rushed feel and appeal bc you pay after you're done. Safe to assume the girls feel comfy there also like we do..8's and 9's at the cheap casas downtown and GFE performances? If this is true, we should all go down there because that is a great value. Now let you tell you my experience with guys and how they rate girls based on a popular escort review website in the USA. On the website, guys can anonymously rate escorts on a scale of 1 to 10. Time and time again, guys have given 9's and 10's to escorts who I then visit and have been very disappointed with their looks, girls who I would rate as 6's or maybe a low 7.

So what is going on? Are guys lying? I think the answer is no. It is just that they are used to their average or below average looking girlfriends or wives and when they see a girl that is better looking, they think these girls are 8's, 9's and 10's. I don't think this is a bad thing for the guys at all. If you see an above average girl and think she is a 9 or 10, this is a great thing for you. There are more choices out there and in your mind, you are seeing 9's and 10's for a very reasonable price. It is like that movie where the guy is hypnotized into thinking that an average looking fat girl is a supermodel and in that state of mind, he is really happy.

I am not saying that this is happening here, just throwing out a theory. Now I am here in Medellin so I may go down to those casas soon and check out those 8's and 9's with GFE performance for a cheap price. I think it is a great option for guys if true. And, of course, if you don't see those 8's or 9's when you are there, you are just going at the wrong time or the beautiful girls have already been taken.

Atldre
10-17-24, 16:03
Today I met my first Vennie this trip. The lineup at Chicas punto com of about 10 girls was presented to me and as soon as I saw her I knew that she was Venezuelan. I paid COP 70,000 for the half hour and the session was going so well I extended by another half hour for the same price. In previous trips Chicas punto com was always able to provide me with Vennies. Sofia delivered reasonably good service with various positions accompanied by GFE and a good time was had by all concerned. My beef with Cpc is the habitacion which is rather dingy (although porn was on display). As a matter of fact Centro casa rooms are not very pleasant but as Bob Barker would agree 'the price is right'. Nevertheless, a nice room makes the experience so much better.Where is Chicas punto com? This is my first time seeing it mentioned.

MaddTraveler
10-17-24, 16:03
This is why I prefer booking.com, and the owners can't rate you. You get more professional landlords, vs douche bags renting out their apartments and going to stay with their mamas and stuff.Many times we take something simple and make it a problem when in reality there is no problem. Some of us Foreigners expect too much or too entitled.

Firstly when you book an Airbnb you have the option for a room, meaning you will be leaving with other people which could be the landlord or renters, or choose "entire home" in the Airbnb search filter to rent the entire unit. So why write something that's false? Why?

Besides those new rules won't affect those that bring normal guests. Like if you meet a girl from SA or a regular nonpro or semipro, make sure she has an ID and dress appropriately and you'll be fine. Most of my hosts require that I take a pic front and back of all guest Ids and send to them. I do my best not to bring too many, and I get 100% positive reviews in several yrs of traveling.

For the real hookers, that's what cheap $2-5 hourly motels are for. So this problem y'all discussing doesn't truly matter, nothing to lose sleep over.

Turgid
10-17-24, 17:06
......So before I left town about two weeks ago, I gave ZANDALY a try since it was about a year prior that I went; and WOW, 10 girls of which at least 6 were 7+, top 3 were in the 8+ range. I picked one and paid 100 k for the HR. ...........Good to read this. It was not my experience when I went there recently but I will certainly give it another try soon.

Fun Luvr
10-17-24, 18:55
Many times we take something simple and make it a problem when in reality there is no problem. Some of us Foreigners expect too much or too entitled.

Firstly when you book an Airbnb you have the option for a room, meaning you will be leaving with other people which could be the landlord or renters, or choose "entire home" in the Airbnb search filter to rent the entire unit. So why write something that's false? Why?I don't know what you are referring to as something false. There are "entire home" apartments on airbnb in which the host or his/her friend/relative lives in the apartment when it's not rented.


Besides those new rules won't affect those that bring normal guests. Like if you meet a girl from SA or a regular nonpro or semipro, make sure she has an ID and dress appropriately and you'll be fine.Very seldom do I have more than one visitor per day, and some days I don't have any. If I'm in a building with long term renters, my visitors are always dressed conservatively. I've still had residents complain to the host because I'm old and my visitor is young. I don't party in the apartments, so there's no disturbances. I even had someone call the police because I was in a Frisby's with a young lady and the daughter of a mutual friend.

I think if an Airbnb host gets complaints like I've described, they will get gun-shy and put more restrictions on renters.

I have received positive reviews for every Airbnb rental I've been in, almost ten years.

MiamiBoy1
10-17-24, 19:02
8's and 9's at the cheap casas downtown and GFE performances? If this is true, we should all go down there because that is a great value. Now let you tell you my experience with guys and how they rate girls based on a popular escort review website in the USA. On the website, guys can anonymously rate escorts on a scale of 1 to 10. Time and time again, guys have given 9's and 10's to escorts who I then visit and have been very disappointed with their looks, girls who I would rate as 6's or maybe a low 7.

So what is going on? Are guys lying? I think the answer is no. It is just that they are used to their average or below average looking girlfriends or wives and when they see a girl that is better looking, they think these girls are 8's, 9's and 10's. I don't think this is a bad thing for the guys at all. If you see an above average girl and think she is a 9 or 10, this is a great thing for you. There are more choices out there and in your mind, you are seeing 9's and 10's for a very reasonable price. It is like that movie where the guy is hypnotized into thinking that an average looking fat girl is a supermodel and in that state of mind, he is really happy.

I am not saying that this is happening here, just throwing out a theory. Now I am here in Medellin so I may go down to those casas soon and check out those 8's and 9's with GFE performance for a cheap price. I think it is a great option for guys if true. And, of course, if you don't see those 8's or 9's when you are there, you are just going at the wrong time or the beautiful girls have already been taken.I have been saying this for months, if not years. You can't judge a boxing match if you don't know shit about boxing. Same thing when it comes to rating women. Average Joe has been fucking whales all his life, any girl who looks better than a whale is automatically hot. Especially is the age gap is 30+ years. Also, some guys don't know what GFE is. One of the posters in the Bogota thread said he got covered BJ, but she was GFE. GTFO LOL. Casas are not meant to provide GFE, cheap casas, expensive casas, doesn't matter. You rarely get GFE there, because the girls are hardened pros and the venue works like a fucking conveyor. Wham bam thank you ma'am type. Heck, you don't want to kiss a girl who just sucked someone's dick 20 minutes ago.

Lucky Nuts
10-17-24, 19:08
Good to read this. It was not my experience when I went there recently but I will certainly give it another try soon.Zandaly and Chicas Sexi Amigas are not far apart (although you need to cross Oriental) and always had the best chicas back in the day. Let us know what you find now.

Fun Luvr
10-17-24, 19:14
Where is Chicas punto com? This is my first time seeing it mentioned.Here's information from a post two years ago. Hope it's still correct. "6. Chicas Punto Com, Cl54 (Caracas)#49-97, piso 2, Inside Centro Comercial Boulevard de Caracas, across from El Cid: Armona Spa, 321 755 51 20. Sat 5 pm, couldn't find 97, but this was the only one on 97 piso2 across EL Cid. 10 chicas. 6/10 rating. ".

MoonShot
10-17-24, 20:54
I have been saying this for months, if not years. You can't judge a boxing match if you don't know shit about boxing. Same thing when it comes to rating women. Average Joe has been fucking whales all his life, any girl who looks better than a whale is automatically hot. Especially is the age gap is 30+ years. Also, some guys don't know what GFE is. One of the posters in the Bogota thread said he got covered BJ, but she was GFE. GTFO LOL. Casas are not meant to provide GFE, cheap casas, expensive casas, doesn't matter. You rarely get GFE there, because the girls are hardened pros and the venue works like a fucking conveyor. Wham bam thank you ma'am type. Heck, you don't want to kiss a girl who just sucked someone's dick 20 minutes ago.I agree with you and yes, you have been saying it for a while. You have to accept casa girls for what they are, high volume taking care of business girls. One issue with the more attractive girls is that they will get more business if most guys agree that she is, in fact, attractive. So she is getting a lot of dick every half hour or so every day every week every month. Chances are you are getting her right after another guy just banged her right after another guy just banged her and so on. You have to be a certain type of girl to be able to handle it and I am impressed with girls who can provide decent service guy after guy. These girls are happy with the business and the good ones try to make the guys happy. I know that some guys go to casas and think they are making the girl cum but remember that she is banging a lot of guys and it is her job to make you think that she is enjoying it and that you are special.

That being said, nothing wrong with going to the casas and getting a no-nonsense no games release from an above average looking girl for a low price.

Recondite
10-17-24, 22:33
I've always liked zandaly personally. I find they tend to have some thinner girls. You've got to remember they use the lighting in there to their advantage. There are a couple of decent looking girls there even given that. The main thing is I've never had an issue with the quality of service I've gotten there.

Personally I'm curious about Angeles Spa and Chicas Plus. Both are a little higher priced (160 k) for the hour than Zandaly but they post pictures of their girls and have some that look good. I plan on trying one or othwhen I'm in town. Ellas erotic used to be in that bracket but seems to have gone down hill.


Sharing a quick update.

Don't sleep the casas fellas.

DarthRaider
10-17-24, 23:18
I got a chick up in Riohacha that wants to get tag teamed if 2 friends are up for it. Also can do one on one. Please PM me for details. No $ involved.

Also, Have a chick in Barrancabermeja that wants to get creampied by a brotha.

MaddTraveler
10-17-24, 23:24
I don't know what you are referring to as something false. There are "entire home" apartments on airbnb in which the host or his/her friend/relative lives in the apartment when it's not rented.

Very seldom do I have more than one visitor per day, and some days I don't have any. If I'm in a building with long term renters, my visitors are always dressed conservatively. I've still had residents complain to the host because I'm old and my visitor is young. I don't party in the apartments, so there's no disturbances. I even had someone call the police because I was in a Frisby's with a young lady and the daughter of a mutual friend.

I think if an Airbnb host gets complaints like I've described, they will get gun-shy and put more restrictions on renters.

I have received positive reviews for every Airbnb rental I've been in, almost ten years.Almost 100% of the Airbnbs I stay in are professional apt building where the host is a realtor with multiple units, not from a Joe who comes in live in the place when it's empty. Especially in Mde and Bog, those apts are always filled quickly. If your neighbor complained about you mult times, then you are doing something wrong LOL.

I didn't reply to you either. I quoted the user "HUACHO" claiming staying w mamas and stuff. Maybe I misread that. Bc I know many travelers rent rooms in Airbnbs and really if your a monger you should have no business renting rooms in people's home where they have children and families. Those are for young travelers and backpackers that also don't mind staying in cheap $5 a day Hostels also in mixed dorms. The airbnb rooms are as cheap as $100 a month. I think if your in our hobby or a grwn man you should rent a full private spot.

If you are in your 60's or even 50+, depending how creepy and old you look, yes people should call the police on your ass bc many foreigners are fucking filthy pedos. Maybe not you cause I don't know you. But be discreet and go to a motel if she looks very young. I can't understand this stupid obsession with bringing girls to apt where you actually stay. Even bringing 4 different girls a week will appear too many for normal families that are observing you. That's not fucking normal is it?

If you're in a long-term thing then it will appear normal that you're bringing the same person. There's no perfect method, but it's something we must manage for both dep on where we stay vs who sees and vs the volume.

The police calling might have been out of jealousy also. Bc it's their home, and now seeing you with diff women daily or every other day with suspiciously young ones. Even if they are not wg, having multiple ones in a short period of time, especially being a foreigner is disgusting to them. Look at it at their point of view.

In Bog I stay in a 20 story building, huge lobby and only have to register ea guess once. You would think you're in a business skyscraper and no neighbors sees you or give a crap. 3 Elevators and throughout the hallways not a person in sight except the occasional ones in the same Elevator w you. Outside is none but businesses. But in in Mde smaller apts w noisy neighbors sitting outside observing, or the ones with 1 security guard or smaller complex will get in your biz.

MaddTraveler
10-17-24, 23:49
8's and 9's at the cheap casas downtown and GFE performances? If this is true, we should all go down there because that is a great value. Now let you tell you my experience with guys and how they rate girls based on a popular escort review website in the USA. On the website, guys can anonymously rate escorts on a scale of 1 to 10. Time and time again, guys have given 9's and 10's to escorts who I then visit and have been very disappointed with their looks, girls who I would rate as 6's or maybe a low 7.

So what is going on? Are guys lying? I think the answer is no. It is just that they are used to their average or below average looking girlfriends or wives and when they see a girl that is better looking, they think these girls are 8's, 9's and 10's. I don't think this is a bad thing for the guys at all. If you see an above average girl and think she is a 9 or 10, this is a great thing for you. There are more choices out there and in your mind, you are seeing 9's and 10's for a very reasonable price. It is like that movie where the guy is hypnotized into thinking that an average looking fat girl is a supermodel and in that state of mind, he is really happy.

I am not saying that this is happening here, just throwing out a theory. Now I am here in Medellin so I may go down to those casas soon and check out those 8's and 9's with GFE performance for a cheap price. I think it is a great option for guys if true. And, of course, if you don't see those 8's or 9's when you are there, you are just going at the wrong time or the beautiful girls have already been taken.Last time I posted here or logged into the forum was nearly 3 mos ago. Not only bc of work but few buddies joined me in mde right after Brazil. I get zero points, make no money here for lying. As far as experience and being used to baddies, I only dated 8+ and since I started traveling, I became even more selective. Most travelers do upgrade their taste based on what I read after few months in this hobby.

There is zero offense to think the way you think or those that agreed LOL. It is bc they've met many sore losers in person, guys who arent used to women which I do also. Majority of mongers were losers back home. But not all. Many guys on this forum are lawyers, doctors, biz owners, gents that are divorced, and used to date pretty girls.

So who knows, maybe even with money coming out of my ass, being a decent looking guy and in shape, I still have bad and horrible taste LOL. Who the fuck knows. But all I know is this, most travelers I see in person are fucking ugly and fat dudes, some of yall in centro wear the same fucking tshirt every day or each time I see yall.

Maybe not you exactly, just making a point. Which brings me to the topic of GFE. The GFE works is like this, you can pay a girl 2 M pesos and she could be horrible in bed BECAUSE SHE doesn't LIKE YOUR MONKEY ASS.

WOMEN AREN'T ROBOTS SO YOU can't PAY FOR GFE OR ORDER IT. Some women are naturally romantic and have high sex drives like many Brazilians, and bc of that GFE is more common there even in casas. Many guys here report that paying more doesn't equal GFE or good quality sex. She has to have chemistry with you.

So just bc I had the experience, which maybe because I know how to talk to women, I give compliments, I look good, in shape, still young, confident, all those are factors. This does not mean by you walking in there, smelling like shit, look and dress like shit, that she will kiss you in the lips and tell you about her life story and becoming a friend and provide GFE service.

REAL GFE is solely based on you. So chill the fuck out.

MaddTraveler
10-18-24, 00:06
8's and 9's at the cheap casas downtown and GFE performances? If this is true, we should all go down there because that is a great value. Now let you tell you my experience with guys and how they rate girls based on a popular escort review website in the USA. On the website, guys can anonymously rate escorts on a scale of 1 to 10. Time and time again, guys have given 9's and 10's to escorts who I then visit and have been very disappointed with their looks, girls who I would rate as 6's or maybe a low 7.

So what is going on? Are guys lying? I think the answer is no. It is just that they are used to their average or below average looking girlfriends or wives and when they see a girl that is better looking, they think these girls are 8's, 9's and 10's. I don't think this is a bad thing for the guys at all. If you see an above average girl and think she is a 9 or 10, this is a great thing for you. There are more choices out there and in your mind, you are seeing 9's and 10's for a very reasonable price. It is like that movie where the guy is hypnotized into thinking that an average looking fat girl is a supermodel and in that state of mind, he is really happy.

I am not saying that this is happening here, just throwing out a theory. Now I am here in Medellin so I may go down to those casas soon and check out those 8's and 9's with GFE performance for a cheap price. I think it is a great option for guys if true. And, of course, if you don't see those 8's or 9's when you are there, you are just going at the wrong time or the beautiful girls have already been taken.To prove my point, go read few chicas profile on Mileroticos and Photoprepago, you will see that many of them say that they only kiss and perform BBBJ depending on the client's hygiene. So it's not something money can buy, maybe a lame BBBJ but not always and def not true affection / GFE. It's how to look, how clean you are, and if she's feeling you. No other man or myself can help with that.

So I apologize if my report mislead a bit LOL. I will ensure to put that disclosure in my next report, that decent hygiene is required, maybe a full set of teeth, a clean cut, deodorant, non-obese, age limit, good breath, in order to receive GFE or similar experience. My bad I forgot to disclose that.

If WGs write that requirement themselves, imagine nonpros? I see why some of yall so bitter and angry about a simple report. There are professional male grooming and coaching services out there.

Turgid
10-18-24, 00:26
I have been saying this for months, if not years. You can't judge a boxing match if you don't know shit about boxing. Same thing when it comes to rating women. Average Joe has been fucking whales all his life, any girl who looks better than a whale is automatically hot. Especially is the age gap is 30+ years. Also, some guys don't know what GFE is. One of the posters in the Bogota thread said he got covered BJ, but she was GFE. GTFO LOL. Casas are not meant to provide GFE, cheap casas, expensive casas, doesn't matter. You rarely get GFE there, because the girls are hardened pros and the venue works like a fucking conveyor. Wham bam thank you ma'am type. Heck, you don't want to kiss a girl who just sucked someone's dick 20 minutes ago.You are totally wrong. I have gotten great GFE from casa chicas. For me GFE is where the girl is warm, friendly, tells you about herself, what she likes and does not like, gives you her phone number and above all is willing to meet you outside of her place of work. What the hell does a BJ have to do with GFE!? I have gotten BBBJs from stone cold starfishes in FKKs. I have gotten CBJs from casa girls who I later met for lunch dates and great sex in short time hotels with DFK and BBBJ. Getting GFE from a girl has a lot to do with how you treat her. Treating her as just a slam bam thank you mam as you alluded to will never get you GFK. Try another approach. There is no difference between a casa chica and the high end escorts that you patronize except the price. Many casa girls get two or less clients per day which is less mileage than some of your high priced babes.

Hardened pros?? That smacks of someone who has never been to a casa. Back in the day I met casa chicas who were on their first or second day as a working girl. Some girls go only when they need money. Over many years I have been to most casas in Medellin on several occasions and am convinced that they are the best deal in town.

MaddTraveler
10-18-24, 00:44
You are totally wrong. I have gotten great GFE from casa chicas. For me GFE is where the girl is warm, friendly, tells you about herself, what she likes and does not like, gives you her phone number and above all is willing to meet you outside of her place of work. What the hell does a BJ have to do with GFE!? I have gotten BBBJs from stone cold starfishes in FKKs. I have gotten CBJs from casa girls who I later met for lunch dates and great sex in short time hotels with DFK and BBBJ. Getting GFE from a girl has a lot to do with how you treat her. Treating her as just a slam bam thank you mam as you alluded to will never get you GFK. Try another approach. There is no difference between a casa chica and the high end escorts that you patronize except the price. Many casa girls get two or less clients per day which is less mileage than some of your high priced babes.During my 3 mos in mde recently, only went to Conejitas once. The strip club in Centro near Botero. While in there a girl came and sat next to me and offered her services, I declined since I don't like the rooms in there, plus only wanted to drink and observe. She was the prettiest girl in there so we exchanged numbers, bought her some drinks and we chatted, tipped her 20 k before I left. Svc in there costs 120 k for 30 minutes. So we made a lunch date on la 70 next day, spent like two hours eating, drunk some wine and got to know each other. I had such a relax time w her. Then went to a motel a block away, 200 k and spent like 4 hrs mult rounds. Total GFE, showerd together, got a great professional massage since she does that on the side also. She shared her IG, her family fotos, etc. She wouldn't do all that if we didn't connect w chemistry.

That dude you replied to always make it seem that some women are less than a human being bc of where they work and how much they charge. He's a little psycho.

Last year I met another cutie in that same club, banged her for the 120 k, and also came to my hotel, met my friends and we hung out together, banged her again after a several hrs date. On this recent trip I saw her again and now she only works at Parque lleras, her min rate is 600 k. I shit you not she's a blond white girl and looks like she's from the states, so dudes pay that in the park for her. She's really gorgeous.

Pay those losers no mind. They can't be normal. If you look at the thread "Stupid shit in medellin" You'll see all they do is insult and talk shit there all day.

Men who are getting laid regularly, making a good income with a stress free living arent so rude and angry all the time. Just look at that forum section. Fucking crazy so pay those losers no mind.

Knowledge
10-18-24, 01:08
That is exactly my beef with chicaspuntocom too. The rooms are only slightly better than the 10 peso shitholes behind the church. I was last in there during the pandemic. Both me and the girl kept your shoes on during the session. Like all the other casas, you get some good providers from time to time.


Today I met my first Vennie this trip. The lineup at Chicas punto com of about 10 girls was presented to me and as soon as I saw her I knew that she was Venezuelan. I paid COP 70,000 for the half hour and the session was going so well I extended by another half hour for the same price. In previous trips Chicas punto com was always able to provide me with Vennies. Sofia delivered reasonably good service with various positions accompanied by GFE and a good time was had by all concerned. My beef with Cpc is the habitacion which is rather dingy (although porn was on display). As a matter of fact Centro casa rooms are not very pleasant but as Bob Barker would agree 'the price is right'. Nevertheless, a nice room makes the experience so much better.

MiamiBoy1
10-18-24, 01:15
You are totally wrong. I have gotten great GFE from casa chicas. For me GFE is where the girl is warm, friendly, tells you about herself, what she likes and does not like, gives you her phone number and above all is willing to meet you outside of her place of work. What the hell does a BJ have to do with GFE!? I have gotten BBBJs from stone cold starfishes in FKKs. I have gotten CBJs from casa girls who I later met for lunch dates and great sex in short time hotels with DFK and BBBJ. Getting GFE from a girl has a lot to do with how you treat her. Treating her as just a slam bam thank you mam as you alluded to will never get you GFK. Try another approach. There is no difference between a casa chica and the high end escorts that you patronize except the price. Many casa girls get two or less clients per day which is less mileage than some of your high priced babes.

Hardened pros?? That smacks of someone who has never been to a casa. Back in the day I met casa chicas who were on their first or second day as a working girl. Some girls go only when they need money. Over many years I have been to most casas in Medellin on several occasions and am convinced that they are the best deal in town.I'm not wrong, you just didn't get my point. What does a BJ have to do with GFE? Does your girlfriend suck you off with a condom on? I don't think so. BBBJ for many guys is a deal breaker and is part of a standard GFE service. Now, BBBJ could be great, or it could be lousy, no question about it. But CBJ in my opinion can never be great.

I didn't say you can't get GFE from a casa girl, but you got to take her out of the establishment, build a rapport, maybe even wine and dine her. You can't build a rapport at the casa when you see her for the first time and you only got 15 or 20 minutes with her. And how the hell am I supposed to treat a hooker if the whole concept of a casa is "slam bam thank you mam". You go there to bust a quick nut and be out. There is no time to talk. The rooms are so basic and dark, definitely not inviting to have a nice conversation. And speaking of volumes, I personally have seen girls getting picked up 3-4 times back to back, and that was in less than 2 HR timeframe. Don't even compare high end babes to your casa hoes, its like day and night. And if one wants GFE, they should focus on semi-pros or non-pros, rather than pros.

Gabacho
10-18-24, 02:36
I'm not wrong, you just didn't get my point. What does a BJ have to do with GFE? Does your girlfriend suck you off with a condom on? I don't think so. BBBJ for many guys is a deal breaker and is part of a standard GFE service. Now, BBBJ could be great, or it could be lousy, no question about it. But CBJ in my opinion can never be great.

I didn't say you can't get GFE from a casa girl, but you got to take her out of the establishment, build a rapport, maybe even wine and dine her. You can't build a rapport at the casa when you see her for the first time and you only got 15 or 20 minutes with her. And how the hell am I supposed to treat a hooker if the whole concept of a casa is "slam bam thank you mam". You go there to bust a quick nut and be out. There is no time to talk. The rooms are so basic and dark, definitely not inviting to have a nice conversation. And speaking of volumes, I personally have seen girls getting picked up 3-4 times back to back, and that was in less than 2 HR timeframe. Don't even compare high end babes to your casa hoes, its like day and night. And if one wants GFE, they should focus on semi-pros or non-pros, rather than pros.Turgid, you will have to excuse our racist from Miami, he belongs in the stupid shit thread but occasionally he gets out and posts over here. He doesn't contribute anything valuable and prefers to attack other members such as yourself and I by belittling their judgement, saying that his women are better eventhough he refuses to post any pictures of his so called 9 or 10's, and by name calling. It looks like now he has taken it even further to tell you that what you consider a GFE experience is not a GFE experience. This guy is unreal.

-Gabacho.

MoonShot
10-18-24, 14:01
From time to time, I do chime in on topics of the day and usually I regret it afterwards. Ja ja ja. There really is no point to arguing with people on this board. People will believe what they want to believe and it is all good.

Come to Medellin, see the girls that you want to see, pay what you want to pay, have a good time and don't worry about what others say or do.

So far this trip is going well and it's been a long trip. I have been seeing girls that I want to see, paying what I am comfortable paying, and enjoying my time here in Medellin. I am being being careful and so far I have not been drugged or robbed.

You can spend more than me. You can spend less than me. You can claim that your girls are prettier than my girls. It's all good.

GangsterDog
10-18-24, 14:06
Any good spot to watch the Niners Chiefs game this Sunday? I'll be in town till Monday so if anyone has recommendations on where to go let me know.

MaxLee88
10-18-24, 16:35
Any good spot to watch the Niners Chiefs game this Sunday? I'll be in town till Monday so if anyone has recommendations on where to go let me know.Mama Panda Chinese restaurant just opened a month ago.

Finally good american-chinese food in Medellin, so much better than the terrible colombian-chinese food.

The Honey Walnut Shrimp and Orange Chicken are great, and the restaurant is huge, with a center island american-style bar, a retractable roof, 10 TVS and a JUMBOTRON TV Screen that is amazing to watch NFL, the MLB playoffs, Hockey, Basketball and Soccer games.

Its is in the heart of Laureles, right off of Avenida Nutibara, right next to the big McDonalds, in Mercado de Laureles.

The address is Circular 74, #39-36, third floor.

Check out their reviews on google at Mama Panda Cocina Asiatica and their instagram page at Mamapandacocinaasiatica.

Turgid
10-18-24, 16:47
Turgid, you will have to excuse our racist from Miami, he belongs in the stupid shit thread but occasionally he gets out and posts over here. He doesn't contribute anything valuable and prefers to attack other members such as yourself and I by belittling their judgement, saying that his women are better eventhough he refuses to post any pictures of his so called 9 or 10's, and by name calling. It looks like now he has taken it even further to tell you that what you consider a GFE experience is not a GFE experience. This guy is unreal.

-Gabacho.I hate it when guys think they're better than others and the girls they fuck are better than the girls that others bang. I have been with high end escorts all over the world and stunners from the best FKKs in Germany and had a better time with many casa girls I sessioned in the past.

ThisIsFun
10-18-24, 17:04
From time to time, I do chime in on topics of the day and usually I regret it afterwards. Ja ja ja. There really is no point to arguing with people on this board. People will believe what they want to believe and it is all good.

Come to Medellin, see the girls that you want to see, pay what you want to pay, have a good time and don't worry about what others say or do.

So far this trip is going well and it's been a long trip. I have been seeing girls that I want to see, paying what I am comfortable paying, and enjoying my time here in Medellin. I am being being careful and so far I have not been drugged or robbed.

You can spend more than me. You can spend less than me. You can claim that your girls are prettier than my girls. It's all good.This is all you need to know. It should be pinned.

Jeffers69
10-18-24, 17:22
There are quite a few attractive massage girls hanging around the Park, they give their business cards. Are they the masseuses or just PR? Also what can you get from them? FS?

Fun Luvr
10-18-24, 19:02
... If your neighbor complained about you mult times, then you are doing something wrong LOL.

I didn't reply to you either. I quoted the user "HUACHO" claiming staying w mamas and stuff. Maybe I misread that. ...
If you are in your 60's or even 50+, depending how creepy and old you look, yes people should call the police on your ass bc many foreigners are fucking filthy pedos. Maybe not you cause I don't know you. But be discreet and go to a motel if she looks very young. ... The police calling might have been out of jealousy also. You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. I didn't say a neighbor complained multiple times. I said RESIDENTS (plural) have complained.

Huacho posted "douche bags renting out their apartments and going to stay with their mamas and stuff", but you do admit you may have misread that. That doesn't excuse you saying Huacho posted something false.

Do you know that Frisby's is a chain of chicken restaurants? We were eating lunch when the person called the police.

You still didn't explain what was false in Huacho's post.

You may only stay in high-end apartment buildings, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that there are other Airbnb rentals like the ones Huacho mentioned.

Huacho
10-18-24, 21:48
If you are in your 60's or even 50+, depending how creepy and old you look, yes people should call the police on your ass You're another one whose attitude may prevent you from finding out what 50+ is actually like.

Turgid
10-19-24, 00:01
Recently a poster reported on a great lineup in Zandaly and upon reading it I promised to revisit the casa which I did today. Well, it appears that I keep going at the wrong time. I am going to give details which I used to do up to my last visit in 2019 but I promise to those bored by this I will do it only for Zandaly this time. Believe me my rating is generous. The presentation was the following:

(1) Emily (4 out of 10).

(2) Valerie (4).

(3) Alexandra (6).

(4) Sofia (4).

(5) Ashley (5).

There were 4 other chicas who were having lunch. Two 4's, a 5 and another 6, a slim blanca who I would have chosen if she was free but she had just started to eat.

So off I went with Alexandra, a short mulatta with a very nice booty. Nothing to write home about.

SubCmdr
10-19-24, 05:37
Men who are getting laid regularly, making a good income with a stress free living arent so rude and angry all the time. Just look at that forum section. Fucking crazy so pay those losers no mind.You are making assumptions based on your perceptions when you need to take a step back and get some perspective. If two boxers get into to ring, they start hitting on each other. Is that being rude or angry? I banter back in forth here to practice my English writing skills. It is like going onto the tennis court with a hitting partner. The object is to practice your shots and keep the ball in play.

It has been a long time since I read the Mede Report thread. Mother fuckers arguing like there is not tomorrow over the same shit as always. They just don't use a much profanity. But they all just International Tricks so I don't see where they get their attitudes of superiority like Madd Traveler displays.

Turgid
10-19-24, 19:45
Last time I visited Medellin 5 years ago there were brothas in all the casas especially New Life where they basically took over the place. Now I see none at all. As a matter of fact in all my casa visits this trip I have seen not one gringo. It seems gringos have given up the casa scene completely and have moved on to other (better?) arenas. The fact of their complete absence from casas perhaps says something about the other options. Perhaps I am missing something.

BlackThought
10-19-24, 21:28
I hate it when guys think they're better than others and the girls they fuck are better than the girls that others bang. I have been with high end escorts all over the world and stunners from the best FKKs in Germany and had a better time with many casa girls I sessioned in the past.Loved the FKK days, but those Romanians are anything but GFE. Great BBBJ though and so many pink pussies.

I get the best GFE from Latinas even though I don't speak Spanish LOL.

BlackThought
10-19-24, 22:27
Last time I visited Medellin 5 years ago there were brothas in all the casas especially New Life where they basically took over the place. Now I see none at all. As a matter of fact in all my casa visits this trip I have seen not one gringo. It seems gringos have given up the casa scene completely and have moved on to other (better?) arenas. The fact of their complete absence from casas perhaps says something about the other options. Perhaps I am missing something.I'm staying in laureles and planning to hit up a bunch of casas and grab their #s for toda la noche if we have good chemistry.

The casa girls seem much cheaper than Facebook girls.

Questner
10-20-24, 01:24
Last time I visited Medellin 5 years ago there were brothas in all the casas especially New Life where they basically took over the place. Now I see none at all. As a matter of fact in all my casa visits this trip I have seen not one gringo. It seems gringos have given up the casa scene completely and have moved on to other (better?) arenas. The fact of their complete absence from casas perhaps says something about the other options. Perhaps I am missing something.Sure, the nation you should look for are Germans. When Germans are gone that means the value is gone. Then you look for Italians. When they start to depart it means trouble. This is the best gauge for me in Latam or Africa.

Exoticspirit
10-20-24, 02:43
Last time I visited Medellin 5 years ago there were brothas in all the casas especially New Life where they basically took over the place. Now I see none at all. As a matter of fact in all my casa visits this trip I have seen not one gringo. It seems gringos have given up the casa scene completely and have moved on to other (better?) arenas. The fact of their complete absence from casas perhaps says something about the other options. Perhaps I am missing something.I cannot speak about other casas but when I was at New Life the other week, I saw two black Americans there although they seemed to take their time as they arrived before me and I chose a lady before either of them. When I finished my session, they were still sitting in the lobby. I quite like New Life and would visit again as well as try other casas out in future trips.

Gabacho
10-20-24, 07:34
Do you know that Frisby's is a chain of chicken restaurants? We were eating lunch when the person called the police.Bro if you like Frisby there's this other chicken place not far from the Frisby in Centro (the one right across from parque berrio). It's called Chef Colombia Crispy world. Just keep walking up Calle 52 (la playa) until you get to the coltejer tower and it's literally at the bottom of the tower. Best fucking fried chicken in all of Medellin hands down, bro. Especially if you order the wings and ask for them with the "salsa aparte" they cook them up fresh made to order and they come out so delicious.

Gabacho.

Turgid
10-20-24, 20:55
I'm staying in laureles and planning to hit up a bunch of casas and grab their #s for toda la noche if we have good chemistry.

The casa girls seem much cheaper than Facebook girls.With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. Also don't forget to watch your belongings like a hawk. Won't talk about liquid refreshment as ISG regulars are smart enough to monitor their drinks.

I'll be honest and say that I've been disappointed with the Centro casas so far. My greatest disappointment has been Aiffe where I've had so many great sessions in the past. Can anyone explain what has happened to that establishment? They have a great reception area and I like that room to the right as you enter but the chica quality this trip has been dismal. I do hope it is temporary as I have some great memories there.

I move on to the Laureles casas this week but I have not given up on Centro yet as the movement of girls is very fluid and a diamond in the rough may be just around the corner.

Knowledge
10-20-24, 21:38
All the casas have staffing ups and downs. You are experienced so you know it's going to vary day by day. I have a long history with Aiffe and the family that owns it, as well as several girls who worked there over the years. That's the background for this key fact. Aiffe is known among girls as the casa that pays the least. This explains why its staffing tends to be uneven compared to other casas. The lower pay begs the question of why women would work there when there are other higher paying options. Before I continue with that answer I should mention that the difference in pay is small, as in 5,000 pesos, or 30,000 pesos versus 35,000 pesos out of the 60,000 to 70,000 half hour fee. The reason girls put up with it Aiffe is it is not as strict as other casas with fines. Fines are assessed by all the casas, mostly for arriving late, leaving early, or not showing up for shifts. This is what makes Aiffe worthwhile for girls in spite of its lower pay and it is also what makes it worthwhile for us customers because girls who urgently need quick cash can pop in for a few hours or days at a time, so it's not that unusual to stumble on a good opportunity if you are able to check the place regularly. If you are here for a few days at a time you are going to get better bang for your buck at the more reliable casas. If you are here long term you can use the place to refresh your roster with new phone numbers after you try them out at low cost. It's win-win because the girls get to vet you in the safety of the casa then collect nearly double what Aiffe pays them when they see you outside of Aiffe.


With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. Also don't forget to watch your belongings like a hawk. Won't talk about liquid refreshment as ISG regulars are smart enough to monitor their drinks.

I'll be honest and say that I've been disappointed with the Centro casas so far. My greatest disappointment has been Aiffe where I've had so many great sessions in the past. Can anyone explain what has happened to that establishment? They have a great reception area and I like that room to the right as you enter but the chica quality this trip has been dismal. I do hope it is temporary as I have some great memories there.

I move on to the Laureles casas this week but I have not given up on Centro yet as the movement of girls is very fluid and a diamond in the rough may be just around the corner.

Knowledge
10-20-24, 21:44
Waiting around for Facebook girls, or really any girls, is non negotiable for me. I just won't do it. My regulars know not to bother trying to get together more than 15 minutes past an agreed time, and then only if they contact me to postpone. Life is too short to sit around with your thumb up your ass waiting for a girl to decide to show up.


With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. Also don't forget to watch your belongings like a hawk. Won't talk about liquid refreshment as ISG regulars are smart enough to monitor their drinks.

I'll be honest and say that I've been disappointed with the Centro casas so far. My greatest disappointment has been Aiffe where I've had so many great sessions in the past. Can anyone explain what has happened to that establishment? They have a great reception area and I like that room to the right as you enter but the chica quality this trip has been dismal. I do hope it is temporary as I have some great memories there.

I move on to the Laureles casas this week but I have not given up on Centro yet as the movement of girls is very fluid and a diamond in the rough may be just around the corner.

Fun Luvr
10-20-24, 23:47
Bro if you like Frisby there's this other chicken place not far from the Frisby in Centro (the one right across from parque berrio). It's called Chef Colombia Crispy world. Just keep walking up Calle 52 (la playa) until you get to the coltejer tower and it's literally at the bottom of the tower. Thanks Gabacho. I take the little girl to Frisby because she likes the play area.

BlackThought
10-21-24, 07:03
With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. Also don't forget to watch your belongings like a hawk. Won't talk about liquid refreshment as ISG regulars are smart enough to monitor their drinks.

I'll be honest and say that I've been disappointed with the Centro casas so far. My greatest disappointment has been Aiffe where I've had so many great sessions in the past. Can anyone explain what has happened to that establishment? They have a great reception area and I like that room to the right as you enter but the chica quality this trip has been dismal. I do hope it is temporary as I have some great memories there.

I move on to the Laureles casas this week but I have not given up on Centro yet as the movement of girls is very fluid and a diamond in the rough may be just around the corner.Yeah Facebook seems like a huge waste of time as they're quoting 250-400 k and they're like 6-7 in looks. The really hot ones won't even respond LOL.

I'll stick with the casas and get their Facebook if I like them. How are Colombians pussy hygiene compared to the tijuana HK girls?

MoonShot
10-21-24, 13:54
With Facebook girls, Tinder and outcall escorts you choose a girl based on a photo and she keeps you waiting then when she arrives she looks nothing like her photo and is no better looking than a casa girl, then charges you five times the casa price. That has not been my experience with Facebook girls. Usually I like to see girls with a number of pictures posted on their FB profile especially recent pictures with friends or family and almost always, they look like their pictures. I prefer Facebook because the girls I select are better looking than the girls in the casas in my opinion. Yes, waiting for the girl to arrive is irritating but they are usually coming from Bello which is far away and there is often traffic. I would agree that if it is a big issue waiting for a girl to arrive, you should not arrange for girls from social media to come to your place. Yes, it is more expensive than the price of casa girls. It is up to the guy to decide whether it is worth the additional cost based on his assessment of the attractive of the girl and her performance.

Turgid
10-21-24, 14:28
All the casas have staffing ups and downs. You are experienced so you know it's going to vary day by day. I have a long history with Aiffe and the family that owns it, as well as several girls who worked there over the years. That's the background for this key fact. Aiffe is known among girls as the casa that pays the least. This explains why its staffing tends to be uneven compared to other casas. The lower pay begs the question of why women would work there when there are other higher paying options. Before I continue with that answer I should mention that the difference in pay is small, as in 5,000 pesos, or 30,000 pesos versus 35,000 pesos out of the 60,000 to 70,000 half hour fee. The reason girls put up with it Aiffe is it is not as strict as other casas with fines. Fines are assessed by all the casas, mostly for arriving late, leaving early, or not showing up for shifts. This is what makes Aiffe worthwhile for girls in spite of its lower pay and it is also what makes it worthwhile for us customers because girls who urgently need quick cash can pop in for a few hours or days at a time, so it's not that unusual to stumble on a good opportunity if you are able to check the place regularly. If you are here for a few days at a time you are going to get better bang for your buck at the more reliable casas. If you are here long term you can use the place to refresh your roster with new phone numbers after you try them out at low cost. It's win-win because the girls get to vet you in the safety of the casa then collect nearly double what Aiffe pays them when they see you outside of Aiffe.Great info on Aiffe. I will certain keep visiting.

BlackThought
10-21-24, 17:35
That has not been my experience with Facebook girls. Usually I like to see girls with a number of pictures posted on their FB profile especially recent pictures with friends or family and almost always, they look like their pictures. I prefer Facebook because the girls I select are better looking than the girls in the casas in my opinion. Yes, waiting for the girl to arrive is irritating but they are usually coming from Bello which is far away and there is often traffic. I would agree that if it is a big issue waiting for a girl to arrive, you should not arrange for girls from social media to come to your place. Yes, it is more expensive than the price of casa girls. It is up to the guy to decide whether it is worth the additional cost based on his assessment of the attractive of the girl and her performance.The casa girls in laureles on avg look better than a lot of these Facebook girls (excluding the modelos with 10 k+ followers).

How much are the Facebook girls quoting you? I heard they typically stay for 2-3 hours which would mean it's cheaper than casa girls by the hourly rate.

BlackThought
10-21-24, 17:36
Mods. Can you please remove this restriction? I've had it for roughly 3 years and I have not been engaging in drama with other members since.

Knowledge
10-21-24, 17:47
The workaround to avoid waiting around for girls to show up that I've found effective is ride share apps. Whether or not you pay for the ride you have the girl share the trip progress with you or track the ride on the app. I don't accept "I'm almost there" or "I'm on the metro now" type messages.


That has not been my experience with Facebook girls. Usually I like to see girls with a number of pictures posted on their FB profile especially recent pictures with friends or family and almost always, they look like their pictures. I prefer Facebook because the girls I select are better looking than the girls in the casas in my opinion. Yes, waiting for the girl to arrive is irritating but they are usually coming from Bello which is far away and there is often traffic. I would agree that if it is a big issue waiting for a girl to arrive, you should not arrange for girls from social media to come to your place. Yes, it is more expensive than the price of casa girls. It is up to the guy to decide whether it is worth the additional cost based on his assessment of the attractive of the girl and her performance.

Lucky Nuts
10-21-24, 18:39
Great info on Aiffe. I will certain keep visiting.Have you tried Amigas Sexy? It's on the other side of Oriental. The east side. I think this is the correct address: Cra. 45 D #57-67.

Look for the doorway where you need to climb about 15 or 20 stairs to get to the door into the place.

Very friendly younger couple used to run this place. I would guess they still do but I haven't been there in a couple years.

Used to have a diamond in the rough once in a while. I liked the little bar to sit at and get a feel for the chicas. Just like Zandalay.

ElPostino
10-21-24, 18:48
Great info on Aiffe. I will certain keep visiting.Agree with that, Aiffe is lot better one than the other one across the other street.

Turgid
10-22-24, 00:54
Have you tried Amigas Sexy? It's on the other side of Oriental. The east side. I think this is the correct address: Cra. 45 D #57-67.

Look for the doorway where you need to climb about 15 or 20 stairs to get to the door into the place.

Very friendly younger couple used to run this place. I would guess they still do but I haven't been there in a couple years.

Used to have a diamond in the rough once in a while. I liked the little bar to sit at and get a feel for the chicas. Just like Zandalay.I have not yet this trip, its definitely on my to do list.

Turgid
10-22-24, 01:08
Visited another one of my favorites from the past. Four chicas were presented to me while a girl was screaming with pleasure amidst the sounds of smacking flesh in one of the rooms. I've seen much better lineups at Tantra - oh well. Chose young looking (Jiminez?). She gave it her all with lots of 'si', 'rrico' and other words not loud enough to match her co-worker though.

On another note I have found the service improving as this trip progresses perhaps I made some bad choices week before last and early last week. Yeah, the service is now what I am accustomed getting in Medellin with lots of acceptance of and indulgence in my idiosyncrasies.

From my experience in years gone by the Centro casa that had the hottest girls was called Paradiso but to my knowledge they went out of business, at the address I used to visit, some years ago. Anyone knows if they relocated?

BlueChange
10-22-24, 03:43
Loved the FKK days, but those Romanians are anything but GFE. Great BBBJ though and so many pink pussies.

I get the best GFE from Latinas even though I don't speak Spanish LOL.Agreed! I was in an FKK in Frankfurt and ill never forget how much those romanians suck and suck. This one chick was like "how about I just suck you, make you cum good in my mouth" and she was just happy doing that for 20 min.

Then I felt refreshed as I ate buffet of steak, rice and potatoes / ahhh living.

BlackThought
10-22-24, 04:12
Agreed! I was in an FKK in Frankfurt and ill never forget how much those romanians suck and suck. This one chick was like "how about I just suck you, make you cum good in my mouth" and she was just happy doing that for 20 min.

Then I felt refreshed as I ate buffet of steak, rice and potatoes / ahhh living.The Mansion should convert to an FKK model, I bet it would do really well. They already have a bunch of girls working there.

The blowjobs from Romanians were the absolute best and I have not encountered a single fishy pussy at the FKK. I'the spend 5-8 hours there.

Zeos1
10-22-24, 11:48
The Mansion should convert to an FKK model, I bet it would do really well. They already have a bunch of girls working there.

The blowjobs from Romanians were the absolute best and I have not encountered a single fishy pussy at the FKK. I'the spend 5-8 hours there.The FKK model would never be allowed in Colombia. They get shut down regularly for just allowing working girls in there.

Germany has the government onside in their sex business. Colombia just prefers to blame foreigners for some of the bad shit and pretend that the all the bad stuff in the industry would not be there other than evil sex tourists.

SamSadees2
10-22-24, 19:50
I heard there was a ban from the mayor due to illegal sex activity there. Is it still in effect or is it largely gone now? I'll be coming to Medellin next week for a month. Hope to find some 18 year olds there. Where should I look? And are they all of legal age? Are they screened somehow to make sure everything is legit? I heard street walkers were plenty there but without verification, it's hard to tell if they got a fake ID or whatever. Also, anyone up for a meetup?

MoonShot
10-22-24, 20:29
The casa girls in laureles on avg look better than a lot of these Facebook girls (excluding the modelos with 10 k+ followers).

How much are the Facebook girls quoting you? I heard they typically stay for 2-3 hours which would mean it's cheaper than casa girls by the hourly rate.There are literally thousands of girls based in Medellin on Facebook. Each girl has her own thoughts of what she is worth. You can ask 20 girls and the prices will be different. No, they don't typically stay for 2-3 hours but you can ask for that if you want. For me, it doesn't really matter what the girls will quote me. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and they can decide to take it or not take it.

DiscoverFL
10-22-24, 21:05
Dance with the devil enough you will get burned. You'll run into the wrong one eventually if your not being clear and upfront about pricing. I would not recommend anyone to take your approach of not negotiating an actual price. One day you will get an expectation for 2 or 3 milliones from the wrong girl. Think it can't happen. It can and does eventually. Overpay, underpay whatever floats your boat. Just be clear to avoid issues.If this forum had an 'up-vote' I'd upvote you. You are 100% correct. My post wasn't clear enough to what I do when I pick someone and get ready to head out with them. I then let them know I will pay $X ($300-350 usually) and will pay tip more based on how I feel it comes out. I'm really planning to pay them $100 more than I suggested, but they don't know that, and they have an incentive, and they agreed to the smaller amount if I am disappointed. I've also short-changed 1-2 who were a total waste and magically had to get going too quickly or some other BS. But with experience I never really run into those anymore.

Husker Dude
10-23-24, 00:09
The FKK model would never be allowed in Colombia. They get shut down regularly for just allowing working girls in there.

Germany has the government onside in their sex business. Colombia just prefers to blame foreigners for some of the bad shit and pretend that the all the bad stuff in the industry would not be there other than evil sex tourists.True, the past yer or so, chicas have to go straight to the room, not allowed to hang out poolside. I think the Mansion days are extremely numbered. Latest rumor of it closing end of September ended up false. However I've heard downpayment has been made, but actual closing date to be determined. New buyer will tear it down I've heard.

Knowledge
10-23-24, 01:21
That lot will likely become a multi story building of 10 or more stories.


True, the past yer or so, chicas have to go straight to the room, not allowed to hang out poolside. I think the Mansion days are extremely numbered. Latest rumor of it closing end of September ended up false. However I've heard downpayment has been made, but actual closing date to be determined. New buyer will tear it down I've heard.

BlackThought
10-23-24, 19:41
There are literally thousands of girls based in Medellin on Facebook. Each girl has her own thoughts of what she is worth. You can ask 20 girls and the prices will be different. No, they don't typically stay for 2-3 hours but you can ask for that if you want. For me, it doesn't really matter what the girls will quote me. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and they can decide to take it or not take it.You are right, the prices have a wide range and it's not really corrrelated to looks. Seeing a range of 250-500 k, what do you offer to pay? What's the advantage of Facebook girls over the casa girls?

CtgCharlieBoy1
10-24-24, 01:11
I just got back last weekend. The mayor is working diligently to remove pros from the walled city. All of the clubs with pros in Centro have been permanently shut down. There are a lot more families out, and pros are no longer allowed to loiter at the clocktower. When they are standing around the police will come on motos and blast their sirens until they move. Its really annoying. Also I have been there a million times and now the begging is gotten completely out of control, way worse than before. Medellin is very lively from what I am seeing so I'm sure I will take a trip there soon.

LuvChicas
10-24-24, 09:49
You are right, the prices have a wide range and it's not really corrrelated to looks. Seeing a range of 250-500 k, what do you offer to pay? What's the advantage of Facebook girls over the casa girls?IMO, the disadvantage "danger" of messing around with internet chicas is you dropping your guard and getting scopolamine drugged and robbed. Vs getting that done to you while you're in a casa. PLEASE be careful with your drinks if you're out there drinking. I AM!

BlackThought
10-24-24, 21:14
IMO, the disadvantage "danger" of messing around with internet chicas is you dropping your guard and getting scopolamine drugged and robbed. Vs getting that done to you while you're in a casa. PLEASE be careful with your drinks if you're out there drinking. I AM!Yeah, I'll probably stick with the casas.

BlackThought
10-24-24, 21:16
Laura Bustamante messaged me on Facebook, she seems to be popular on this forum. She's a 5/10 at best, she's kind of fat and the face is average. I am not wasting a nut on that lmao.

MoonShot
10-24-24, 22:05
You are right, the prices have a wide range and it's not really corrrelated to looks. Seeing a range of 250-500 k, what do you offer to pay? What's the advantage of Facebook girls over the casa girls?There are literally thousands of girls in Medellin on Facebook so you have a lot of choices. The down side is that it does take some time to find these girls but once you have a certain number of Facebook girls, FB will start recommending more girls in Medellin to you.

The girls come to you so you can enjoy the comforts of your room and not that dumpy casa room where you don't know if they ever change the sheets.

At some point in the conversation with the girls, you need to bring up price. Often for whatever reason the girls don't mention money and you might think that they don't want money and you would be mistaken most of the time. I often bring up the topic of money and ask how much they expect. They will throw out a wide range of prices but it doesn't matter. If it is more than you want to pay, just say it is too much and then they will ask how much you are willing to pay, and then you just negotiate and see if you can come to an agreement. You should also make sure that the girl will agree to whatever you would like the girl to do in the bed. In my experience, the range of 200-300 mil plus taxi will usually closes the deal but not always. Every girl is different as to what she is willing to accept and due to the large number of girls on Facebook and the lack of price transparency, there is no going rate due to wide differences in the girls as to age and looks. It is whatever that particulr girl is willing to accept.

You don't have to rely on FB pictures of the girl. You can arrange for a video call with the girl to see what she actually looks like.

Recondite
10-25-24, 14:18
I think the best approach is to ask a more subtle question like "que tipo de relacion buscas si nos conocimos" (what kind of relationship are you looking for if we meet? Prepagos will reply "beneficio mutuo" or "sexo por dinero". In my experience there are plenty of nonpros on social media too and they have provided some of the best sexual experiences and most fun I've had out and about in Medellin. So I try to be subtle and not turn anyone off in my exchanges over social media.


There are literally thousands of girls in Medellin on Facebook so you have a lot of choices. The down side is that it does take some time to find these girls but once you have a certain number of Facebook girls, FB will start recommending more girls in Medellin to you.

The girls come to you so you can enjoy the comforts of your room and not that dumpy casa room where you don't know if they ever change the sheets.

At some point in the conversation with the girls, you need to bring up price. Often for whatever reason the girls don't mention money and you might think that they don't want money and you would be mistaken most of the time. I often bring up the topic of money and ask how much they expect. They will throw out a wide range of prices but it doesn't matter. If it is more than you want to pay, just say it is too much and then they will ask how much you are willing to pay, and then you just negotiate and see if you can come to an agreement. You should also make sure that the girl will agree to whatever you would like the girl to do in the bed. In my experience, the range of 200-300 mil plus taxi will usually closes the deal but not always. Every girl is different as to what she is willing to accept and due to the large number of girls on Facebook and the lack of price transparency, there is no going rate due to wide differences in the girls as to age and looks. It is whatever that particulr girl is willing to accept.

You don't have to rely on FB pictures of the girl. You can arrange for a video call with the girl to see what she actually looks like.

Husker Dude
10-25-24, 15:04
Laura Bustamante messaged me on Facebook, she seems to be popular on this forum. She's a 5/10 at best, she's kind of fat and the face is average. I am not wasting a nut on that lmao.Laura maybe average to above average looking, but she speaks perfect english, has her own car, and can give guys tours around Medelloin. That's why guys like her. She's thick not fat with all natural tits.

GrownMan1
10-25-24, 16:35
Decided a rode trip to Colombia. Any experience brothers in the area? I will be in the Laureles area.

DiscoverFL
10-25-24, 18:33
I heard there was a ban from the mayor due to illegal sex activity there. Is it still in effect or is it largely gone now? I'll be coming to Medellin next week for a month. Hope to find some 18 year olds there. Where should I look? And are they all of legal age? Are they screened somehow to make sure everything is legit? I heard street walkers were plenty there but without verification, it's hard to tell if they got a fake ID or whatever. Also, anyone up for a meetup?What ban are you referring to? Illegal activity is still illegal and will most likely always be illegal. And, no, all the girls in Medellin did not grow up overnight and become of legal age. Who would screen and how? Who would verify street walkers? Identifying a fake ID depends on how good the fake ID, though I think the most common method is just to borrow or steal a real ID from an older similar girl. You should sit down with some patience and read back several dozens of pages and get a better picture of how it all works, that is the best advise I can give you.

MoonShot
10-25-24, 20:00
Laura maybe average to above average looking, but she speaks perfect english, has her own car, and can give guys tours around Medelloin. That's why guys like her. She's thick not fat with all natural tits.I have never met her but I would not be so quick to dismiss her qualities. Not everyone is looking for the same thing. I have been told that she speaks English and I've been told that she is very friendly and can converse with you on a number of topics and can be good company on sightsee trips. If you tell her where you would like to do, she can make some recommendations for you and keep you company. That is more than can be said for your typical streetwalker in El Centro.

The Dark Lord101
10-26-24, 06:44
Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?

Further, I. Am planing to visit chicas from Photo Prepagos, Mileroticos and other websites. Are these chicas and their places safe? I won't be using tinder for sure. But just worried of this particular drug.

Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.

Combo
10-26-24, 16:55
Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?

Further, I. Am planing to visit chicas from Photo Prepagos, Mileroticos and other websites. Are these chicas and their places safe? I won't be using tinder for sure. But just worried of this particular drug.

Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.No risk at all of getting scoped visiting a casa. Very low risk visiting chicas from Mileroticos, etc.

BlackThought
10-26-24, 22:28
Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?

Further, I. Am planing to visit chicas from Photo Prepagos, Mileroticos and other websites. Are these chicas and their places safe? I won't be using tinder for sure. But just worried of this particular drug.

Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.I think it's mainly guys getting scoped by parque lleras street walkers.

Shemp
10-27-24, 01:24
Laura Bustamante messaged me on Facebook, she seems to be popular on this forum. She's a 5/10 at best, she's kind of fat and the face is average. I am not wasting a nut on that lmao.If you are looking for a hot young paisa, Laura is not for you. She used to hang out at the mansion & many guys loved being with her. As others have said, big natural boobs, speaks english, very trustworthy & she knows how to make a man happy sexually. You can also hire her as a driver to take you to Guatape o anywhere else you want to go.

Questner
10-27-24, 01:30
Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?

Further, I. Am planing to visit chicas from Photo Prepagos, Mileroticos and other websites. Are these chicas and their places safe? I won't be using tinder for sure. But just worried of this particular drug.

Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.Very high risk of advanced scoping: https://crest.com/en-us/oral-care-products/mouthwash/scope-mouthwash-original-mint.

The only thing that offers a guarantee is a life insurance policy.

LoveItHere69
10-27-24, 04:03
Does anyone advise how risky it is getting scoped while visiting casa. Did it happen to anyone here?

But just worried of this particular drug.

Kindly advise as I am getting worried after watching videos on YouTube.Some Dark Lord you are. If you guys are so worried about getting drugged then just do ST. You can do LT too, just do not drink. That pretty much solves the problem. Also, best to not to get 2 girls.

Gabacho
10-27-24, 10:43
Very high risk of advanced scoping: https://crest.com/en-us/oral-care-products/mouthwash/scope-mouthwash-original-mint.

The only thing that offers a guarantee is a life insurance policy.Getting scoped while inside of a casa??

Is this even a serious question?

MxTH9
10-27-24, 16:10
Hi,

What nightclubs in Medellin are open every day, have a lot of people, and close late at night? Later than 4 am?

Thank you!

Mr Enternational
10-27-24, 18:49
Getting scoped while inside of a casa??

Is this even a serious question?LOL. They are trying to run a business. How would they look drugging and robbing the customers? You get drugged and robbed by fly by night people, not someone that has an established presence.

Knowledge
10-27-24, 19:04
I think it is a serious question from someone who doesn't have a way to know how unserious and borderline crazy some of the youtube content is. I think it's a normal reaction to the high volume of bullshit that is published about Colombia. The answer of course is no one needs to worry about being drugged and robbed in a casa. It's conceivable that a girl might swipe cash out of your wallet if you don't pay attention but even that is not a common occurrence.


Getting scoped while inside of a casa??

Is this even a serious question?

JustTK
10-28-24, 11:42
Some Dark Lord you are. If you guys are so worried about getting drugged then just do ST. You can do LT too, just do not drink. That pretty much solves the problem. Also, best to not to get 2 girls.I find trying the girl to a chair with her hands bound behind her back usually does the trick. Ofc it can impact service delivery though.

Knowledge
10-28-24, 17:49
You make a good point. They casas operate cooperatively to protect their businesses. For example, about 10 years ago the Centro casas (and there were quite a for more of them in those days) were having a problem with a gang of robbers that was preying on casa customers by pretending to be police. They targeted locals and foreigners. Their routine was to flash fake IDs then intimidate punters with claims that they can prove the casa employed illegal girls and they could wind up in prison. They would ask for bribes and even stage fake arrests to lead guys away to a side street where they would rob them. It got so bad that the casas started displaying a poster with a video capture photo from one of their security cameras of the leader of the gang and a warning to avoi them. The poster also expressly denied any illegal aged employees.


LOL. They are trying to run a business. How would they look drugging and robbing the customers? You get drugged and robbed by fly by night people, not someone that has an established presence.

Knowledge
10-28-24, 17:50
Luna Lunera, where your mileage may vary.


Hi,

What nightclubs in Medellin are open every day, have a lot of people, and close late at night? Later than 4 am?

Thank you!

Zeos1
10-28-24, 18:02
Hi,

What nightclubs in Medellin are open every day, have a lot of people, and close late at night? Later than 4 am?

Thank you!Must be a riddle. I give up.

MiamiSammy
10-28-24, 23:47
There are literally thousands of girls based in Medellin on Facebook. Each girl has her own thoughts of what she is worth. You can ask 20 girls and the prices will be different. No, they don't typically stay for 2-3 hours but you can ask for that if you want. For me, it doesn't really matter what the girls will quote me. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and they can decide to take it or not take it.Is there any good way to do a FB search for Medellin girls? I've had some limited success, but there has to be another way. Also looking to get some contact info on Laura Bustamante- I'd like to get someone to pick me up at the airport. TIA.

Husker Dude
10-29-24, 00:06
Is there any good way to do a FB search for Medellin girls? I've had some limited success, but there has to be another way. Also looking to get some contact info on Laura Bustamante- I'd like to get someone to pick me up at the airport. TIA.Message Laura on FB messenger.

Dcrist0527
10-29-24, 02:43
I'm heading back to MDE mid-November. I like finding massages outside of Centro. A few new ones (new to me, at least) have caught my eye and I'm wondering if anyone has had any experiences.

Anyone try out Ganesha or Thao? I tend to enjoy the more sensual places. In fact, I'm willing to give up FS for a good, slow, sensual cuerpo a cuerpo. I'll get the FS at night. LOL.

Recondite
10-30-24, 10:49
Have you been to EM Spa in Manilla? I'm thinking of trying it because I'm curious about the "erotic massage" experience. I saw it mentioned on one of the Telegram groups I'm on and added it. I'm headed to Medellin now, so may try it in the next few days and have a solid opinion. I've been curious about the non FS spas ever since a girl I know looked for a job at one and was telling me about the training.


I'm heading back to MDE mid-November. I like finding massages outside of Centro. A few new ones (new to me, at least) have caught my eye and I'm wondering if anyone has had any experiences.

Anyone try out Ganesha or Thao? I tend to enjoy the more sensual places. In fact, I'm willing to give up FS for a good, slow, sensual cuerpo a cuerpo. I'll get the FS at night. LOL.

Dcrist0527
10-30-24, 14:25
Have you been to EM Spa in Manilla? I'm thinking of trying it because I'm curious about the "erotic massage" experience. I saw it mentioned on one of the Telegram groups I'm on and added it. I'm headed to Medellin now, so may try it in the next few days and have a solid opinion. I've been curious about the non FS spas ever since a girl I know looked for a job at one and was telling me about the training.I have not heard of it. If you're ok with non-FS and a quality sensual massage while leaving happy, I would recommend Happy Massage in Castropol. It's on the pricier end, especially considering it's not FS. But I've never had a bad experience there and feel it's a good value. Good people. Nice facilities.

SlapShot10
10-30-24, 21:40
Have you been to EM Spa in Manilla? I'm thinking of trying it because I'm curious about the "erotic massage" experience. I saw it mentioned on one of the Telegram groups I'm on and added it. I'm headed to Medellin now, so may try it in the next few days and have a solid opinion. I've been curious about the non FS spas ever since a girl I know looked for a job at one and was telling me about the training.Do you mean OM Spa at Mall Rio Sur in Milla de Oro? If so, it's alright. Pick your girl, then comes the up-charge after the massage. Not bad, not great for the price.


Hi,

What nightclubs in Medellin are open every day, have a lot of people, and close late at night? Later than 4 am?

Thank you!Try the clubs at Mall Palmahia in Itagui for after hours. Not many gringos there so keep your wits about you.

It seems like all the U23 chicks on Tinder, Facebook, etc. Have unionized. I keep getting the same quote - 300 k mas taxis. I don't bite on that shit but hopefully others can stay strong and we can get the market back on track. Obviously, those that pound the pavement and go to casas can get a much lower price, but it's just strange to see all these 19-21 yo chicks saying the same thing. I don't have the time and they don't have the desire to teach them about supply and demand.

Cheers.

Knowledge
10-30-24, 22:15
It's always great to have you back on here dropping truth bombs. Don't be a stranger.


Do you mean OM Spa at Mall Rio Sur in Milla de Oro? If so, it's alright. Pick your girl, then comes the up-charge after the massage. Not bad, not great for the price.

Try the clubs at Mall Palmahia in Itagui for after hours. Not many gringos there so keep your wits about you.

It seems like all the U23 chicks on Tinder, Facebook, etc. Have unionized. I keep getting the same quote - 300 k mas taxis. I don't bite on that shit but hopefully others can stay strong and we can get the market back on track. Obviously, those that pound the pavement and go to casas can get a much lower price, but it's just strange to see all these 19-21 yo chicks saying the same thing. I don't have the time and they don't have the desire to teach them about supply and demand.

Cheers.

MoonShot
10-30-24, 23:37
Do you mean OM Spa at Mall Rio Sur in Milla de Oro? If so, it's alright. Pick your girl, then comes the up-charge after the massage. Not bad, not great for the price.

Try the clubs at Mall Palmahia in Itagui for after hours. Not many gringos there so keep your wits about you.

It seems like all the U23 chicks on Tinder, Facebook, etc. Have unionized. I keep getting the same quote - 300 k mas taxis. I don't bite on that shit but hopefully others can stay strong and we can get the market back on track. Obviously, those that pound the pavement and go to casas can get a much lower price, but it's just strange to see all these 19-21 yo chicks saying the same thing. I don't have the time and they don't have the desire to teach them about supply and demand.

Cheers.On the whole, I am not getting 300 mil mas taxi quotes from FB girls in the 19-21 age range. Of course, there will be those quoting higher prices but I just say it is too high and then it is the typical negotation. The inital quote is usually just a starting point for negotiations. Remember there is no going rate for Facebook girls. Each girl is different and each girl has her own price. Also as you would anticipate, the price that a girl is willing to accept can depend on the characteristics of the guy or her perception of the guy.

There is demand for young very attractive girls in Medellin and there is a lot of gringos visiting Medellin with money so supply and demand may result in a higher price for that particular girl and she doesn't need to lower her quoted price. 300 mil mas taxi or higher is not out of line for a young pretty girl who men consider to be a 8 or above.

SamSadees2
10-31-24, 13:58
What do you guys think is the best place to find young attractive ladies who are available in the afternoon? I'm getting old now and prefer to bang one out before my big meals but most it seems are only available during the nightlife. I like a good buzz at night and flirting with the girls but I also love sex when I'm totally sober. Looking for skinny young females.

DogLife
10-31-24, 20:04
What do you guys think is the best place to find young attractive ladies who are available in the afternoon? I'm getting old now and prefer to bang one out before my big meals but most it seems are only available during the nightlife. I like a good buzz at night and flirting with the girls but I also love sex when I'm totally sober. Looking for skinny young females.Why don't you try out the casas in the afternoon. Plenty in centro area.

DogLife
10-31-24, 20:07
Folks,

Boots on ground and went for usual scoping out the street talent in Centro.

Not a single worth mentioning, very unpalatable quality and another strange observation is the uptick of trannies.

Am I missing out something. I give a bit of benefit of doubt as its raining on and off and street scenes might be a casualty.

Recondite
10-31-24, 21:36
This is another place. It is called em spa. A friend sent me the telegram channel. I'm kind of expecting to be disappointed but I figure something like a nuru message is worth checking off my bucketlist.

I've included their Instagram below.

https://www.instagram.com/spaemoficial?igsh=MThoc2Uzbmpid2xraQ=={tagreplacement0}

Recondite
11-01-24, 17:09
I went to a couple so far. Recent comments about Zandaly ring true. It might have been the day or time but I didn't see any of the chicas I knew from before and the new crop was pretty dismal. I also went to Angeles Spa in Laureles. They are 160 mil for the hour but a bit better quality too. Went with a girl called Caroline. She was pretty. Had implants but already had some tits so they looked natural. She put in a solid effort but we didn't have crazy chemistry. I like girls who show a bit of personality sexually especially in the casas. By that I mean that they aren't afraid to share likes and dislikes and she some personality in the way they fuck.

Caroline was all about trying to be what I wanted her to be, which I found a bit boring. The other girls in the lineup were less attractive, though I saw a really cute blonde going up the stairs when I left. The facilities were nothing special. But I'll probably check it out again. The girls photos on telegram aren't complete works of fiction unlike Zandalys current page.

ChikSika
11-02-24, 00:05
I visited this one twice for Nuru massage, very pleasurable experience. It's in a residential neighborhood in Laureles.

https://sajanispa.com/


This is another place. It is called em spa. A friend sent me the telegram channel. I'm kind of expecting to be disappointed but I figure something like a nuru message is worth checking off my bucketlist.

I've included their Instagram below.

https://www.instagram.com/spaemoficial?igsh=MThoc2Uzbmpid2xraQ=={tagreplacement0}

Turgid
11-02-24, 01:38
My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.

Black Page
11-02-24, 09:34
Why don't you try out the casas in the afternoon. Plenty in centro area.Is the list posted in the Medellin List still mostly valid? It is dated 2021. Any more recent list? Apologies if I missed where is the asnwer to my question.

Thank you!

BlueMntn
11-02-24, 14:06
I went to a couple so far. Recent comments about Zandaly ring true. It might have been the day or time but I didn't see any of the chicas I knew from before and the new crop was pretty dismal. I also went to Angeles Spa in Laureles. They are 160 mil for the hour but a bit better quality too. Went with a girl called Caroline. She was pretty. Had implants but already had some tits so they looked natural. She put in a solid effort but we didn't have crazy chemistry. I like girls who show a bit of personality sexually especially in the casas. By that I mean that they aren't afraid to share likes and dislikes and she some personality in the way they fuck.

Caroline was all about trying to be what I wanted her to be, which I found a bit boring. The other girls in the lineup were less attractive, though I saw a really cute blonde going up the stairs when I left. The facilities were nothing special. But I'll probably check it out again. The girls photos on telegram aren't complete works of fiction unlike Zandalys current page.Hi everyone, I have never been in Colombia so far, but I am planning to go there sometime next year. I saw a lot young and beautiful girls in the Medellin nightlife. I also see casas are mentioned here in the forum, but I have no idea what are casas and how to find these in Medellin, many thanks for your advice and information. Appreciate it.

WawaRider
11-03-24, 03:08
My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.This my friend is very helpful.

I am planning to visit MDE from 13-16 Nov, flying from DC area. If anyone else is planning to go in the same time, let me know. Would like to form a buddy system where one watches out for other.

Can veterans recommend any airbnbs, hotels which are near to poblanos or park lleras which has a good security guard and allows chicas?

WawaRider
11-03-24, 05:02
For a first time solo visitor, I already know about the manison hotel as an option.

Help me validate if this following is also doable:

1. Get an airbnb near park lleras or poblanos which has guard and allows guests.

2. Go to clubs, find girl and bring her to the room.

Is it still unsafe for 1ST in the above scenario?

Recondite
11-03-24, 13:56
As per usual a casa run is my plan be or see when other options don't work out. I've had a bit of a run of bad luck lately, so I've been hitting the casas. I had a lineup of new girls, these are more semipros and nonpros, to see including some I thought were sure things but things haven't panned out as I'd hoped with a couple. The nice thing about a casa is you can grab a taxi there at the last minute and have a good time when your other options aren't working out. My goal this time has been to visit more of the Laureles casas that are heavily promoted and well reviewed on telegram.

So yesterday I went to Chicaplus which was off LA 70 and avenida San Juan. Saw a chica called Candela, who is a thinner spinner type with glasses but gave off a great energy when I saw the lineup (3 or so girls). She was fun and had a good sexual energy. Sloppy BJ (I gave her extra for BBBJ as per usual). She's into the grinding skin to skin to the point where I thought she was going to let me fuck her raw as she had me in her entrance. I encouraged her to use a vibrator during sex, which made her get into things. She told me she has a boyfriend that doesn't know she's working and doesn't do all the things she wants sexually. From talking to quite a few chicas at this point, seems like Colombian guys are often more vanilla than we are.

The other thing I liked about Chicaplus were the rooms.

The room we used was nicer than your standard casa and had a nice bathroom attached.

Knowledge
11-03-24, 18:41
100 K BBBJ upcharge is flat out abusive.


My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.

Turgid
11-03-24, 21:39
100 K BBBJ upcharge is flat out abusive.They'd never ask Colombian guys for that amount. Hats off to gringos who get hot chicas to BBBJ for less. BTW DATY is still free from some chicas.

DogLife
11-03-24, 22:44
100 k for BBBJ. No gracias for me.

Usually settle for 20 k 30 k.


They'd never ask Colombian guys for that amount. Hats off to gringos who get hot chicas to BBBJ for less. BTW DATY is still free from some chicas.

MiamiBoy1
11-04-24, 01:52
100 K BBBJ upcharge is flat out abusive.So 100 extra for BBBJ. Another 100 to eat her pussy that was just fucked by a few other dudes back to back (ewww). And maybe another 100 base rate. So we are looking at 300 k to fuck a hardened pro at a cheap (or not so cheap anymore? LOL) casa in el centro. Damn. 300 k should easily get you a fb chick who would come to your place for 2-4 hrs and more often than not, provide GFE without upcharges.

Combo
11-04-24, 05:19
So 100 extra for BBBJ. Another 100 to eat her pussy that was just fucked by a few other dudes back to back (ewww). And maybe another 100 base rate. So we are looking at 300 k to fuck a hardened pro at a cheap (or not so cheap anymore? LOL) casa in el centro. Damn. 300 k should easily get you a fb chick who would come to your place for 2-4 hrs and more often than not, provide GFE without upcharges.I agree completely. I know Turgid is an experienced monger, but the route he took just doesn't seem smart. In my limited experience using Facebook, the women come over and hang for a couple hours for a reasonable rate and BBBJ is stipulated beforehand. The big drawback of Facebook for me is that you can't interact with chicas in person beforehand to see if there is a vibe. But you sure as hell aren't going to get that in a casa either. And eating out a chica is not something one should pay extra for.

SubCmdr
11-04-24, 06:14
My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.Thank your for your trip report Turgid.

Your time; your money, your dick; your call! Perhaps some of you need to take a moment to contemplate that idea.

Nounce
11-04-24, 08:38
I agree completely. I know Turgid is an experienced monger, but the route he took just doesn't seem smart. It is terrible value for sure. I guess that is his comfort zone. Someone should help to convert him if he asks for it.

MongerHunger
11-04-24, 13:56
My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.The upcharges are ridiculous. When you were in Bogota I hope that you went to Tantra because BBBJ is standard with no upcharge and any Casa I've been to never charged me for DATY if I decided to do that. She definitely charged you a Gringo Tax.

WawaRider
11-04-24, 14:48
I agree completely. I know Turgid is an experienced monger, but the route he took just doesn't seem smart. In my limited experience using Facebook, the women come over and hang for a couple hours for a reasonable rate and BBBJ is stipulated beforehand. The big drawback of Facebook for me is that you can't interact with chicas in person beforehand to see if there is a vibe. But you sure as hell aren't going to get that in a casa either. And eating out a chica is not something one should pay extra for.What are the keywords you search to find Facebook girls?

The once I found do not reply. I look for city Medellin but beyond that don't have luck.

DiscoverFL
11-04-24, 14:53
For a first time solo visitor, I already know about the manison hotel as an option.
Help me validate if this following is also doable:
1. Get an airbnb near park lleras or poblanos which has guard and allows guests.
2. Go to clubs, find girl and bring her to the room.
Is it still unsafe for 1ST in the above scenario?First-time solo visitor? Yes. #2 will get you in trouble until you get your local radar and contacts working better.

Recondite
11-04-24, 17:28
I ended up checking out EM Spa in Poblado this morning for a change of pace. They do erotic massages like nuru. Handjob and fingering the girl is included in some services. I did a nuru massage as I'd never had one. The place is pretty legit. There were candles in the room and the girl had a whole kit with feathers and all. It was 400 mil for an hour of Nuru. So not super cheap but I thought it was a good experience and a nice change of pace. The chica got me off no issue. She opened up and was laughing and joking with me. We also talked a lot about sex and likes and dislikes, relationships, and the culture in Medellin. So I felt like it was appropriate to see if I could get her number. But no luck. Might be possible with another visit. They have couples massages and 4 hand erotic massages too. Anyway it's not full sex but for me at least it's good to shuffle it up every now and then too. So I'd recommend the spot based on that. There are also cheaper massage options than nuru. That was one of the more expensive ones. I posted the link to their Instagram in my previous post.

Nounce
11-04-24, 23:19
What are the keywords you search to find Facebook girls?

The once I found do not reply. I look for city Medellin but beyond that don't have luck.Look up my post from January. Follow the pattern of the instruction. You should find plenty of them.

You can stay at mansion for a few days to collect numbers from there to build your friend list.


I stayed there only for a few nights earlier this month as my second trip there this year and totally agree on all points.

TheDerilious
11-05-24, 14:59
She told me she has a boyfriend that doesn't know she's working and doesn't do all the things she wants sexually. From talking to quite a few chicas at this point, seems like Colombian guys are often more vanilla than we are.Ah, my sweet, summer child. Her boyfriend is probably the one who got her to start working at a casa to begin with. And to be real, she has done more with her boyfriend / exes / baby daddy way before she met you. It's good to enjoy a story from time to time, but this is one you should always ignore. Colombian guys are the same as you or I, they are hounds. It's as believable as a WG in Rio telling you she only does anal for you and not her boyfriend.

Junior11
11-05-24, 15:42
Look up my post from January. Follow the pattern of the instruction. You should find plenty of them.The forum does not let me go further than March. Can you link here to your post with instructions?

Nounce
11-05-24, 16:45
The forum does not let me go further than March. Can you link here to your post with instructions?You should see the post by searching for Munoz.

Argo1990
11-05-24, 20:22
So 100 extra for BBBJ. Another 100 to eat her pussy that was just fucked by a few other dudes back to back (ewww). And maybe another 100 base rate. So we are looking at 300 k to fuck a hardened pro at a cheap (or not so cheap anymore? LOL) casa in el centro. Damn. 300 k should easily get you a fb chick who would come to your place for 2-4 hrs and more often than not, provide GFE without upcharges.Yeah seems kind of. Steep: the.

I wrote in the other Medellin section but I believe my post might be better suited here (I sincerely apologize if this is considered doubleposting, I'll delete it of course).

I am slowly preparing for a trip that I have been postponing for a while (for me as a European that has mainly been to Asia 20+ times, Colombia seems very wild and dangerous).

I am still scared of the scopolamine shit and general crime but I cannot pass up on the extreme beauty of Colombian girls.

I have spoken to a bunch of girls from Tinder, Bumble, PasionPrepagos and other Escort sites and generally speaking girls seem to be absolutely nogo when it comes to having unprotected / raw sex.

Am I just approaching the girls wrong or not offering enough extra *tips* or is it very uncommon to rawdog Colombian hookers in Medelling & Bogota? I would appreciate any kind of advice on that as I really dislike cumming inside a rubber (God I miss Pattaya just typing this).

Also. How much is the difference between a typical redlight street girl and a girl in one of the clubs in Parque Lleras for example? Whats the price range here? Any updated info on that? (young attractive girls only. Max 24 years old). If there is someone on the ground that has a lot of experience and can give me some input I would be happy to pay a couple of rounds or even send some paypal.

DiscoverFL
11-05-24, 21:42
I have spoken to a bunch of girls from Tinder, Bumble, PasionPrepagos and other Escort sites and generally speaking girls seem to be absolutely nogo when it comes to having unprotected / raw sex. Core issue is you are a stranger approaching them online. Like many places, girls are super scared initially. But calm down once they get to know someone in person.


Also. How much is the difference between a typical redlight street girl and a girl in one of the clubs in Parque Lleras for example? Whats the price range here? Any updated info on that? (young attractive girls only. Max 24 years old).They are the same thing. There have been many many posts outlining pricing (including several by myself). $300 K COP on the low end to girls in the crowded parks / night asking $600 K+ COP. I, personally, find that $400 K COP (less than $100 USD) works great and they are not feeling lowballed and have a good time without clock watching or anxious to find the next guy.

DiscoverFL
11-05-24, 21:48
Ah, my sweet, summer child. Her boyfriend is probably the one who got her to start working at a casa to begin with. And to be real, she has done more with her boyfriend / exes / baby daddy way before she met you. It's good to enjoy a story from time to time, but this is one you should always ignore. Colombian guys are the same as you or I, they are hounds. It's as believable as a WG in Rio telling you she only does anal for you and not her boyfriend.Agree 100%. Colombia has one of the (if not the world's) highest rate of single mothers. The guys are all players and want to-be-pimps. They typically don't even bother to hide what they do from their BF or even their family.

MiamiSammy
11-06-24, 03:00
Yeah seems kind of. Steep: the.

I wrote in the other Medellin section but I believe my post might be better suited here (I sincerely apologize if this is considered doubleposting, I'll delete it of course).

I am slowly preparing for a trip that I have been postponing for a while (for me as a European that has mainly been to Asia 20+ times, Colombia seems very wild and dangerous).

I am still scared of the scopolamine shit and general crime but I cannot pass up on the extreme beauty of Colombian girls.

I have spoken to a bunch of girls from Tinder, Bumble, PasionPrepagos and other Escort sites and generally speaking girls seem to be absolutely nogo when it comes to having unprotected / raw sex.

Am I just approaching the girls wrong or not offering enough extra *tips* or is it very uncommon to rawdog Colombian hookers in Medelling & Bogota? I would appreciate any kind of advice on that as I really dislike cumming inside a rubber (God I miss Pattaya just typing this).

Also. How much is the difference between a typical redlight street girl and a girl in one of the clubs in Parque Lleras for example? Whats the price range here? Any updated info on that? (young attractive girls only. Max 24 years old). If there is someone on the ground that has a lot of experience and can give me some input I would be happy to pay a couple of rounds or even send some paypal.Stick with casas and prepagos (prepaid escorts) unless you just crave strip bars, expensive drinks, and even more expensive pussy. Otherwise, always order something that comes in a sealed container and have it open in your sight (ie, get a bottle of beer and have them open it in front of you) It's just not a good idea to get sloppy drunk when you're mongering. Some guys do it and get away with it, some pay a price. Casas and escorts are Medellin's specialty and probably the best value. Just remember, safety first. Don't be a dar papaya.

MiamiSammy
11-06-24, 03:40
My month long trip to Medellin will soon be coming to an end and I can say categorically that out of the three Colombian cities I've been to, Cartagena, Bogota and Medellin, Medellin wins in the P$P department. I saw a few chicas in Bogota casas who were nicer than some of the best Medellin chicas but the sheer numbers in Medellin trumps Bogota for sure as I always appreciate a wide choice. I enjoyed jumping from one casa to the other looking for doable chicas which enabled me to sample at least one every day. For the hobbyist on a short trip with limited time who is interested in the casas I would recommend to just go to New Life. Caveat though on some trips to that club I saw foreigners, including brothas, who left without a session, whereas I was able to find girls who please me. I suspect that those guys have access to hotter morsels in Parque Lleras, facebook, Fas dos, tinder, etc. which I avoid. Some of my memorable sessions at New Life have been Jessica who has no kids, a hard body with perky titties and gave good service. The only thing is that at 5 foot 5 inches she does not meet my height requirements. She charges COP100,000 more for BBBJ and another COP100,000 more for DATY (ouch) but I need those services. Alexa (5 foot 6 inches) also gave a good performance. Perhaps higher end girls could be found in the preferred venues but I am happy with casa chicas like the aforementioned. I have had a good trip so far and looking forward to more exciting sessions in the next few days.Are you aware of any updated or regular casa maps for Medellin or elsewhere? I'm convinced that's definitely the way to go in Colombia.

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11-06-24, 18:28
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Nil Admirari
11-07-24, 17:37
…..I have spoken to a bunch of girls from Tinder, Bumble, PasionPrepagos and other Escort sites and generally speaking girls seem to be absolutely nogo when it comes to having unprotected / raw sex….Am I just approaching the girls wrong or not offering enough extra *tips* or is it very uncommon to rawdog Colombian hookers in Medellin & Bogota? ….If there is someone on the ground that has a lot of experience and can give me some input I would be happy to pay a couple of rounds or even send some paypal.Hope the following proves helpful.

I'm writing as a relatively seasoned Medellin monger (I've been visiting for 4 to 6 months a year since 2019) to share one guy's experience in securing bareback sex in Paisa Pussyland, Having entered my geezerhood, I've increasingly found the condom to be "el enimigo de placer" (the enemy of pleasure) and, even with a blue pill assist, sometimes have trouble maintaining a hardon when the tool is clad in latex. As a result, my monger mode of operation has been to maintain a core stable of 4 or 5 chicas willing to provide bareback sex and whom I'm reasonably comfortable (albeit not certain) aren't unduly careless themselves (they at least put up some initial resistance).

In respect to your post, I've always assumed that requesting unprotected sex online (whether with facebook / tinder / bumble girls or through escort sites such as PhotoPrepagos) is a non-starter and have never bothered to ask. That said, once a chica has come to my apartment and we've had at least a few, face-to-face minutes to have some laughs and to establish some trust and rapport, I've had about a 75% success rate in securing uncovered sex. This over a shared joint or drink (mine a bottle that I guard like a hawk) in nice digs with a spectacular view. And a chance for her to confirm that, although ancient, I'm acceptably trim and fit (for whatever that may be worth), and, (most importantly) hygienic. Here I'm talking about ladies I've recruited from facebook, met on the street in Parque Lleras, or obtained their WhatsApp at a casa or strip club.

In addition, the last two years, immediately on my arrival in Medellin, I've had myself tested for the full set of STDs and saved the negative results on my cell phone. This has proved very useful in winning over a number of chicas who, at first, were extremely reluctant to bareback. I also make a point of mentioning that I spend six months a year in Medellin and am looking for someone whom I would see regularly, long term.

In most cases, we've already agreed in advance on other GFE services (DFK, BBBJ) and on a payment. Some chicas (especially those who didn't negotiate aggressively over price in the first place) agree to bareback without requesting any additional payment when we discuss my preferences. For those that still prove reluctant, my offering a "propina" (tip) of 50 to 100 k usually seals the deal.

During my first visits here, I was surprised on several occasions when a chica that I had met at a strip club (one at the relatively upscale Luna Lunera) slipped me in bareback without my asking on her first or second visit to my apartment. This after a lot of laughs, some good initial sex, and I guess them seeing me as a possible long term client. Also at Barra Ejecutiva, one gal rawdogged on her initiative with no discussion. On a few other occasions, at casas and strip clubs in El Centro, I've obtained full service sex (sex without condom) for a propina. Here again, having STD test results on your cell can help in obtaining consent.

Clearly, it's risky / dumb to bareback chicas who prove willing to rawdog so promiscuously. I'm more comfortable with the ladies who say no at first or at least express some hesitance--and, otherwise, try to keep my pecker in my pants. Also, I have started to pay to have the girls in my core stable tested for STDs themselves every two months or so, something they seem to welcome. Perhaps a waste of money (who knows what they're up to when not with me and it can take a longish incubation period before some STDs show up on tests), but so far so good.

My impression from a couple of the more confirmed ISG El Centro rats that I've met is that it's pretty easy to obtain bareback sex from SWs and in the clubs downtown—if you're not picky about looks, perhaps for no payment or a nominal extra payment. At the other end of the mongering spectrum, the guys I know who mostly pull non-pros and semi-pros from the internet, report that, as often as not, the girls provide BBBJ and bareback sex without being asked, and without any upfront discussion. But all that's just second-hand info.

Happy to share a coffee or brew when you're next in Medellin (for me, come January 2025). Meanwhile good luck with dipping in raw—and proceed at your own risk.

TheNakedIndian
11-07-24, 18:23
Hope the following proves helpful.

I'm writing as a relatively seasoned Medellin monger (I've been visiting for 4 to 6 months a year since 2019) to share one guy's experience in securing bareback sex in Paisa Pussyland, Having entered my geezerhood, I've increasingly found the condom to be "el enimigo de placer" (the enemy of pleasure) and, even with a blue pill assist, sometimes have trouble maintaining a hardon when the tool is clad in latex. As a result, my monger mode of operation has been to maintain a core stable of 4 or 5 chicas willing to provide bareback sex and whom I'm reasonably comfortable (albeit not certain) aren't unduly careless themselves (they at least put up some initial resistance).

In respect to your post, I've always assumed that requesting unprotected sex online (whether with facebook / tinder / bumble girls or through escort sites such as PhotoPrepagos) is a non-starter and have never bothered to ask. That said, once a chica has come to my apartment and we've had at least a few, face-to-face minutes to have some laughs and to establish some trust and rapport, I've had about a 75% success rate in securing uncovered sex. This over a shared joint or drink (mine a bottle that I guard like a hawk) in nice digs with a spectacular view...Hey,

I'm a 36 year old from Chicago. January-Feb 2025 will be my first trip and would love to grab a coffee or drink and get the lay of the land!

WawaRider
11-07-24, 18:58
Is there a fast testing center you use?

Also do you use PreP when you are bareback?


Hope the following proves helpful.

I'm writing as a relatively seasoned Medellin monger (I've been visiting for 4 to 6 months a year since 2019) to share one guy's experience in securing bareback sex in Paisa Pussyland, Having entered my geezerhood, I've increasingly found the condom to be "el enimigo de placer" (the enemy of pleasure) and, even with a blue pill assist, sometimes have trouble maintaining a hardon when the tool is clad in latex. As a result, my monger mode of operation has been to maintain a core stable of 4 or 5 chicas willing to provide bareback sex and whom I'm reasonably comfortable (albeit not certain) aren't unduly careless themselves (they at least put up some initial resistance).

In respect to your post, I've always assumed that requesting unprotected sex online (whether with facebook / tinder / bumble girls or through escort sites such as PhotoPrepagos) is a non-starter and have never bothered to ask. That said, once a chica has come to my apartment and we've had at least a few, face-to-face minutes to have some laughs and to establish some trust and rapport, I've had about a 75% success rate in securing uncovered sex. This over a shared joint or drink (mine a bottle that I guard like a hawk) in nice digs with a spectacular view. And a chance for her to confirm that, although ancient, I'm acceptably trim and fit (for whatever that may be worth), and, (most importantly) hygienic. Here I'm talking about ladies I've recruited from facebook, met on the street in Parque Lleras, or obtained their WhatsApp at a casa or strip club...

WawaRider
11-07-24, 19:57
I confirmed my travel to MDE Nov. 20-23rd. Staying close to Poblado. If anyone else is going to be in town same time, would like to tag along and watch out for each other.

Enabled my subscription, DM me.

Nil Admirari
11-07-24, 20:23
Is there a fast testing center you use?

Also do you use PreP when you are bareback?Several of my chicas were familiar with Profamilia Medellíand in centrally located Candelaria (Calle 54 and. #43-47). For convenience to where I stay and less of a crowd scene, I've used Laboratorio CLínico VID Sede Laureles, Cq. 73 A #38-30, Laureles. Estadio, but it's on the pricier side. They have a number of other locations. Most labs only perform tests up to some hour in the late morning. Note that HIV tests are relatively cheap (60 to 80 k as I recall), with the results available the same day or next. The full gamut of STD tests (to include chlamydia, genital herpes, gonorrhea, and syphilis) can cost an addition 100 to 200 k, and, for some of these, it can take a number of days, even a week, to receive the results. Also, if the lab uses urine tests rather than a genital swab for some of these tests, then be aware that you, or the chica, has to fast the morning of the test or bring the urine sample with you. Pharmacies sell sample jars for about 2 k.

I don't take PrepP but have contemplated doing so. How about you. How complicated / costly?

Nil Admirari
11-07-24, 20:26
Hey,

I'm a 36 year old from Chicago. January-Feb 2025 will be my first trip and would love to grab a coffee or drink and get the lay of the land!The invite appreciated, but, as I mentioned at the end of my long post, I don't return to Medellin until the beginning of January. Will remain until mid-April. If you happen to still be in Medellin or retun then, I'd welcome getting together. Best to private message me.

WawaRider
11-07-24, 20:28
I am thinking of taking PreP for Colombia trip. (If its available in Colombian pharmacy).

I don't want to try bareback without taking PreP two days in a row. Thanks for the lab details, I will definitely use them.


Several of my chicas were familiar with Profamilia Medelland in centrally located Candelaria (Calle 54 and. #43-47). For convenience to where I stay and less of a crowd scene, I've used Laboratorio CLnico VID Sede Laureles, Cq. 73 A #38-30, Laureles. Estadio, but it's on the pricier side. They have a number of other locations. Most labs only perform tests up to some hour in the late morning. Note that HIV tests are relatively cheap (60 to 80 k as I recall), with the results available the same day or next. The full gamut of STD tests (to include chlamydia, genital herpes, gonorrhea, and syphilis) can cost an addition 100 to 200 k, and, for some of these, it can take a number of days, even a week, to receive the results. Also, if the lab uses urine tests rather than a genital swab for some of these tests, then be aware that you, or the chica, has to fast the morning of the test or bring the urine sample with you. Pharmacies sell sample jars for about 2 k.

I don't take PrepP but have contemplated doing so. How about you. How complicated / costly?

Nil Admirari
11-07-24, 20:28
Hey,

I'm a 36 year old from Chicago. January-Feb 2025 will be my first trip and would love to grab a coffee or drink and get the lay of the land!Getting dyslexic. I see you wrote that you will also be arriving in January. Message me at any time and we can exchange WhatsApp and coordinate a meetup come the new year.

Turgid
11-07-24, 22:41
After a month long stay in Medellin. I did only casas. Overall the trip was quite good and I felt a little reluctant to go back home but I have responsibilities here and could not extend my stay. Apart from the chicas I just like the city and would have no problem staying several months as I used to but unfortunately obligations prevent me from doing that. Although I found the girls not as appealing as in previous trips I still had a good time. Thanks to those guys who commiserated with me on spending COP100,000 extra for BBBJs. I try not to negotiate a price a girl quotes me for extras, a lesser price usually means lesser service in those girls' minds. I either take it or leave it. That is generally my P4P approach. Sometimes a girl who quotes a lesser price would give better service than one with a higher request. Its the luck of the draw. I do plan to return but Cali to which I've never been is for the moment my next Colombian city.

Nclpimp
11-08-24, 13:46
Since the hotties are from there youd think they have casas. Feel free to PM me the details. Thanks.

BlueMntn
11-08-24, 14:23
As per usual a casa run is my plan be or see when other options don't work out. I've had a bit of a run of bad luck lately, so I've been hitting the casas. I had a lineup of new girls, these are more semipros and nonpros, to see including some I thought were sure things but things haven't panned out as I'd hoped with a couple. The nice thing about a casa is you can grab a taxi there at the last minute and have a good time when your other options aren't working out. My goal this time has been to visit more of the Laureles casas that are heavily promoted and well reviewed on telegram.

So yesterday I went to Chicaplus which was off LA 70 and avenida San Juan. Saw a chica called Candela, who is a thinner spinner type with glasses but gave off a great energy when I saw the lineup (3 or so girls). She was fun and had a good sexual energy. Sloppy BJ (I gave her extra for BBBJ as per usual). She's into the grinding skin to skin to the point where I thought she was going to let me fuck her raw as she had me in her entrance. I encouraged her to use a vibrator during sex, which made her get into things. She told me she has a boyfriend that doesn't know she's working and doesn't do all the things she wants sexually. From talking to quite a few chicas at this point, seems like Colombian guys are often more vanilla than we are.

The other thing I liked about Chicaplus were the rooms.

The room we used was nicer than your standard casa and had a nice bathroom attached.This casa looks nice, I will try this one when I will be there in MDE.

Thanks for sharing.

MongerHunger
11-09-24, 09:06
if it's possible to get them tested What the hell kind of question is that? How would anybody know what the woman you're talking about is willing or not willing to do or do you think that it's possible that there is no kind of STD testing in Medellin, Colombia?

Zeos1
11-09-24, 13:54
Hi guys, I'm planning to come to Medellin soon and I'm planning to meet some girls I talk to on tinder so they can spend 2 weeks with me.

I wanted to know if STDs are very common here and if it's possible to get them tested because I would like to have sex without condoms with them.Common enough from what I hear. But your big concern if trying to set up something on Tinder is a more immediate chance of being drugged and robbed. There are many cases of Tinder dates drugging and clients ending up dead.

Ask yourself. What sort of girl or person is going to agree to spend extended time with you before they have met you in real life first. Answer. Not a regular working girl. I would venture a guess that any girl that agrees to something like that on Tinder has other plans for you.

Huacho
11-09-24, 16:02
But your big concern if trying to set up something on Tinder is a more immediate chance of being drugged and robbed.What he said, possibly an even more likely concern in spending two weeks with a total stranger is that you won't like her, she will be a pain in the ass, greedy, on drugs, no good in bed, etc.

MaddTraveler
11-09-24, 16:15
Since the hotties are from there youd think they have casas. Feel free to PM me the details. Thanks.Nothing I can PM but you can easily find that out with the locals. Met a girl from Centro few weeks ago, she was few days new and said prior to Centro she was working in a casa in bello. So they do have. Medellin in general just like any city, have places that are only known to locals. Bello is a poorer hood, some says it's dangerous LOL. I did a quick visit to a local chica friend there once and I was fine. I also know a brother / american who moved there and lives with his colombiana girlfriend and family and he's good. As long as the locals know you and you aint doing none stupid the gangs will let you be.

John Gault
11-09-24, 16:35
Hi guys, I'm planning to come to Medellin soon and I'm planning to meet some girls I talk to on tinder so they can spend 2 weeks with me.

I wanted to know if STDs are very common here and if it's possible to get them tested because I would like to have sex without condoms with them.You post the same thing on the CTG board.

Recondite
11-09-24, 18:19
I don't use tinder anymore but there is a safer way to do it. I'd ask for their other social media and go over it carefully before meeting anyone off tinder. That is what I did when I used it. Look for old, accounts, look for personal photos with family and friends. Look for tagged photos posted by friends. Those girls are lower risk. I'd also ask about her job, where she lives, kids etc. I personally found tinder annoying for dating compared to Facebook and Instagram. That combined with issues around safety made me stop using it.


Common enough from what I hear. But your big concern if trying to set up something on Tinder is a more immediate chance of being drugged and robbed. There are many cases of Tinder dates drugging and clients ending up dead.

Ask yourself. What sort of girl or person is going to agree to spend extended time with you before they have met you in real life first. Answer. Not a regular working girl. I would venture a guess that any girl that agrees to something like that on Tinder has other plans for you.

MoonShot
11-09-24, 18:45
I am almost finished with a three month visit here in Medellin. I took a chance with an Abnb with absolutely no security but I didn't have any issues. Note that I am an experienced traveler. The food generally was fine. You can find places with food that you like. Speaking Spanish would be better but with my limited Spanish I was still able to survive. I found that there was no shortage of young attractive women interested in P4 P for a reasonable price online on Facebook. Some sessions were just average but most were good to great. In the end, I had a good rotation of regular girls that were young and attractive and good in bed. I didn't have any issues with crime during my stay but I was alert and aware of my surroundings.

Everyone does it differently and it's all good. For myself, I passed on the casas and streetwalkers and strip club girls on this trip. Maybe next time. I always say that.

I did meet a number of ISG members during my stay here. In person, everyone was cool and there was none of the mindless debates that happens on this board. Everyone seemed to be happy here on their trips. No one was whining or complaining about things. At least with the guys that I met in person.

On the whole, Medellin is still a good place to visit and you have a lot of fun with the girls here. The druggings and robberies are real though and you do have to be careful.

BlackThought
11-09-24, 19:16
My friend and I stayed in laureles and we mixed it up with casa and Facebook girls.

Here are some casa girls.

Alana. Her body is stacked, thick in the right places. 200 k for one hour, two shots. Oral natural additional 100 k. Great BJ and sucked me off every time we changed positions. Her breath kinda stank tho, so if you like to kiss then avoid her haha.

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/alana3105320992

Michel. Spinner, super skinny but has a plump booty. 200 k for one hour, one shot only; so I advise you to get 30 min for 150 k. Oral natural is additional 100 k, but my friend said she only sucked for 5 min at most, so I did not opt for it. She didn't give me a BJ, just teased me by rubbing her pussy against my dick for like 5 minutes. Friendly and bubbly girl, no strange vibes.

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/michel3126201352

Sofia. Photos are extremely photoshopped. She was kinda big and her ass was huge but not toned. 160 k for one hour, two shots. Oral natural additional 70 k. She can deep throat and gives a sloppy BJ, but I can feel her damn teeth which made it uncomfortable. I would not recommend.

These stacked girls you see on escort websites, add an additional 20 lbs. They look great in photos, but a bit too voluptuous in person. I prefer the spinners.

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/sofia3145567462

Macarena. While I was at the casa for my booking with Sofia, I saw Macarena and she looks just like the photos. I was getting buyers remorse with Sofia and wish I went with her instead. She's a spinner and seemed bubbly.

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/macarena3184711633

BlackThought
11-09-24, 20:44
On the whole, I am not getting 300 mil mas taxi quotes from FB girls in the 19-21 age range. Of course, there will be those quoting higher prices but I just say it is too high and then it is the typical negotation. The inital quote is usually just a starting point for negotiations. Remember there is no going rate for Facebook girls. Each girl is different and each girl has her own price. Also as you would anticipate, the price that a girl is willing to accept can depend on the characteristics of the guy or her perception of the guy.

There is demand for young very attractive girls in Medellin and there is a lot of gringos visiting Medellin with money so supply and demand may result in a higher price for that particular girl and she doesn't need to lower her quoted price. 300 mil mas taxi or higher is not out of line for a young pretty girl who men consider to be a 8 or above.Had two Facebook girls 19 and 20 for toda la noche / BBBJ for 450 más taxi. One of them was an 8, but she was not experienced so I had to teach her how to fuck. Her friend on the other hand was like a 6. 5, but she gave great BBBJ and knew howta flex her pussy which almost made me bust in a few minutes while she was riding me.

BlackThought
11-09-24, 20:52
What are the keywords you search to find Facebook girls?

The once I found do not reply. I look for city Medellin but beyond that don't have luck.Only about 20% of them respond to DMs based on my experience, but it's likely because I use a fake profile.

MoonShot
11-09-24, 22:57
Had two Facebook girls 19 and 20 for toda la noche / BBBJ for 450 ms taxi. One of them was an 8, but she was not experienced so I had to teach her how to fuck. Her friend on the other hand was like a 6. 5, but she gave great BBBJ and knew howta flex her pussy which almost made me bust in a few minutes while she was riding me.Many of the online girls suggest threesomes with their friends because they like to share the wealth, it is less work for them and it is more fun when their friend is around. If you see an online girl, you can always ask her if she has a friend and many will suggest a threesome. Part of it is because if you want to see her friend, she doesn't want to miss out on the money. At the same, it is not common that they will engage in hardcore lesbian activities. There might be playful lesbian action but they are friends and it is just play acting for you. But often there will be some good two girl blowjob action and I find that to be the most part of threesomes.

Now if you don't know either girls, it is more risky because you need to keep an eye on two girls and that can be difficult.

BlackThought
11-10-24, 00:11
Many of the online girls suggest threesomes with their friends because they like to share the wealth, it is less work for them and it is more fun when their friend is around. If you see an online girl, you can always ask her if she has a friend and many will suggest a threesome. Part of it is because if you want to see her friend, she doesn't want to miss out on the money. At the same, it is not common that they will engage in hardcore lesbian activities. There might be playful lesbian action but they are friends and it is just play acting for you. But often there will be some good two girl blowjob action and I find that to be the most part of threesomes.

Now if you don't know either girls, it is more risky because you need to keep an eye on two girls and that can be difficult.That's exactly what I did.

I took the 8, my friend took the 6.5. I was disappointed in my girl's performance, but my friend said his girl was great. The following night, I decided to take them both and got the double BBBJ and used the same condom to penetrate them both. It was amazing, but they only gave me 1 round for 500 k each, so 1 M for that threesome which I felt like it was a bit expensive. I did get a full hour of action tho.

BlackThought
11-10-24, 01:43
Since the hotties are from there youd think they have casas. Feel free to PM me the details. Thanks.Girls in this profession tend to work at places away from where they live.

Balboa
11-10-24, 04:42
I am almost finished with a three month visit here in Medellin. I took a chance with an Abnb with absolutely no security but I didn't have any issues. Note that I am an experienced traveler. The food generally was fine. You can find places with food that you like. Speaking Spanish would be better but with my limited Spanish I was still able to survive. I found that there was no shortage of young attractive women interested in P4 P for a reasonable price online on Facebook. Some sessions were just average but most were good to great. In the end, I had a good rotation of regular girls that were young and attractive and good in bed. I didn't have any issues with crime during my stay but I was alert and aware of my surroundings.

Everyone does it differently and it's all good. For myself, I passed on the casas and streetwalkers and strip club girls on this trip. Maybe next time. I always say that.

I did meet a number of ISG members during my stay here. In person, everyone was cool and there was none of the mindless debates that happens on this board. Everyone seemed to be happy here on their trips. No one was whining or complaining about things. At least with the guys that I met in person.

On the whole, Medellin is still a good place to visit and you have a lot of fun with the girls here. The druggings and robberies are real though and you do have to be careful.Great post!

I'm just back from a 2 week visit. I just walked about Botero during the day and La 70 and Parque Lleras in the evening.

I love Plaza Botero, except when it's raining, LOL.

Befriended lots of girls, takes patience, but I found some very cute, cool girls.

Obviously the majority I don't select, I just chill, walk about, talk with the cool ones, blow off the hard core, and always watch my back.

Parque Lleras is mostly a circus, LOL.

Fun to watch the show tho, for me anyway. Lots of low quality and some hard core hot ones that have been spoiled by the gringo madness, LOL.

My favorite girl of the trip, however, I surprisingly met in Parque Lleras.

I was walking about and she flashed a beautiful smile at me. Pulled her aside to chat. She was nice, but she initially gave me the 1 hour, one hundred dollar blah blah that seems to the norm now that they throw out.

I continued to chat with her a bit, asked for her WhatsApp, explained to her that I don't do the watch the clock, one hour thing, and that we could just meet up the next day and see how it goes together, and that I would take care of her accordingly.

I speak pretty good spanish BTW.

I liked her and I could tell she liked me as well.

After I left her, she would walk back to me from time to time to joke around a bit.

Great sense of humor.

Anyway she came over to my hotel the next day. We chilled, hung out a bit, had fun together.

Ended up about 3 hours together.

I saw her as much as I could fit her in my time, as I was with friends on this trip and was hanging with them as well.

Great trip! Met a couple other ISG guys as well. Nice dudes. No drama.

Like Moonshot says, good fun to be had, whatever your style may be, however, watch your back, always.

WawaRider
11-10-24, 16:41
Thanks for your update. I'm trying to DM you, can you clear your inbox. Thanks.


Great post!

I'm just back from a 2 week visit. I just walked about Botero during the day and La 70 and Parque Lleras in the evening.

I love Plaza Botero, except when it's raining, LOL.

Befriended lots of girls, takes patience, but I found some very cute, cool girls.

Obviously the majority I don't select, I just chill, walk about, talk with the cool ones, blow off the hard core, and always watch my back.

Parque Lleras is mostly a circus, LOL.

Fun to watch the show tho, for me anyway. Lots of low quality and some hard core hot ones that have been spoiled by the gringo madness, LOL.

My favorite girl of the trip, however, I surprisingly met in Parque Lleras.

I was walking about and she flashed a beautiful smile at me. Pulled her aside to chat. She was nice, but she initially gave me the 1 hour, one hundred dollar blah blah that seems to the norm now that they throw out.

Gilolo
11-11-24, 00:28
Did you find some PreP and if yes how much do you pay that? Is it easy to find in Colombia?

To tell you truth, I hate condoms, I always fuck ladies bareback in Colombia and Thailand and I never got any diseases. Maybe because I choose very good my sexy girls!


I am thinking of taking PreP for Colombia trip. (If its available in Colombian pharmacy).

I don't want to try bareback without taking PreP two days in a row. Thanks for the lab details, I will definitely use them.

The Dark Lord101
11-11-24, 16:35
I am currently in Medellin till Nov 16. If there are anyone from ISG, then I would be happy to meet and explore.

DiscoverFL
11-11-24, 16:57
Did you find some PreP and if yes how much do you pay that? Is it easy to find in Colombia?Prep is very expensive everywhere, but it is covered by all US insurance, making it cheapest to get it at home. Your doctor just needs to know you are 'sexually active' and request it and they won't deny it or challenge you, it has no impact on them except giving a prescription. While they will tell you to take it daily forever, more recent studies find it fully effective to just ramp up before your trip, take it daily during the trip, and a little after (for safely, say a week before, during, and a week after). Pretty much makes you immune to AIDS. Now, before someone says the whole crap of it being only '80-90% effective', that lower efficiency value came from the US study where they asked people IF they took it daily. As Dr. House says, everyone lies. UK and French studies where they pulled blood to validate if they did take the drug daily showed pretty much 100% effectiveness. Combine that with a daily antibiotic for everything 'else' (as recommended in older messages here) and you are relatively safe for bareback fun. Of course, nothing is guaranteed, your mileage may vary, etc. But we would not be here if we were not willing to tolerate some risk in our lives.

Black Page
11-11-24, 17:06
I have been there for few days, but for work. That means: no time to play at day, some time at late night, but I was extremely tired (also for jet lag).
Just few notes.

Parque Lleras is not the upscale place it was used to be! I was going there for eating in a good restaurant and chill out looking at sexy girls. Now no more an upscale place, only girl night clubs with solicitors calling tourists (one called me with "hey many semi-virgin girls here!" Yes, sure. I loved the understatement "semi-virgin"). Full of gringos of the worst level, and the girls follow up.
Basically: the same girls that hang out at Veracruz at daytime, move here at night time. The difference is the price LOL!
A place to forget and avoid.

The new place for partying is Provenza, not far from LLeras. No working girls here, but a lot of bars for the young local people and tourists.

I tried a 60k lady at Veracruz an afternoon. Cheap, but nothing to remember. for a tip BBJ, but sloppy and unwilling. Lost money. My fault I did not wait and go only with the special one, if I find the special one.

Best of the best? Well, I have a taxi driver who knows me well since many years. I ask him to take me around at late night in bad places looking at street girls. Believe it or not, after one hour circling around San Diego streets, I found a very sexy one, different from all others, a bit dizzy by some drug but ok, with body in great conditions, and well behaving. Best of all ones. I loved the piercing on both nipples and on the tongue.

We went to Hotel Cupido, near Nikitao: 60k for 3 hours in a large room with jacuzzi. A bit run down, but near the place. It was simply great. We played 2 hours in and out the jacuzzi and I got extra services tipping 100k on top of the initial agreed 110k. Well, call me stupid, I would never pay a silicon girl 200k, but for this one I was mad: totally natural, firm body, tall, beautiful, unprofessional, no bullshit.

Prado is lost. Sometimes there were pretty ones, even junkies, but now only dirty junkies.

DoomBringer321
11-11-24, 20:23
Ma man Ryan did a happy walk in downtown Medellin and posted it on YouTube. Luckily, he did not get robbed.

https://youtu.be/yjWSsbbQg3Q

Gabacho
11-12-24, 04:09
I have been there for few days, but for work. That means: no time to play at day, some time at late night, but I was extremely tired (also for jet lag).
Just few notes.

Parque Lleras is...

Basically: the same girls that hang out at Veracruz at daytime, move here at night time. The difference is the price LOL!
A place to forget and avoid.I've been saying this since 2021.

I knew a girl named Geisis whom I had followed to Medellin from Bogota and she specifically told me that she would work Botero in the day and then go work lleras at night and charge 5 x more to the gringos there.

Subsequently over the years I've met many more thru Facebook and in Centro that told me the same thing.

Funny it only took you guys 4 years to notice it LOL.

-Gabacho.

Knowledge
11-12-24, 05:02
For someone who doesn't come here so often you know the city very well.


I have been there for few days, but for work. That means: no time to play at day, some time at late night, but I was extremely tired (also for jet lag).
Just few notes.

Parque Lleras is not the upscale place it was used to be! I was going there for eating in a good restaurant and chill out looking at sexy girls. Now no more an upscale place, only girl night clubs with solicitors calling tourists (one called me with "hey many semi-virgin girls here!" Yes, sure. I loved the understatement "semi-virgin"). Full of gringos of the worst level, and the girls follow up.
Basically: the same girls that hang out at Veracruz at daytime, move here at night time. The difference is the price LOL!
A place to forget and avoid.

The new place for partying is Provenza, not far from LLeras. No working girls here, but a lot of bars for the young local people and tourists.

I tried a 60k lady at Veracruz an afternoon. Cheap, but nothing to remember. for a tip BBJ, but sloppy and unwilling. Lost money. My fault I did not wait and go only with the special one, if I find the special one.

Best of the best? Well, I have a taxi driver who knows me well since many years. I ask him to take me around at late night in bad places looking at street girls. Believe it or not, after one hour circling around San Diego streets, I found a very sexy one, different from all others, a bit dizzy by some drug but ok, with body in great conditions, and well behaving. Best of all ones. I loved the piercing on both nipples and on the tongue.

We went to Hotel Cupido, near Nikitao: 60k for 3 hours in a large room with jacuzzi. A bit run down, but near the place. It was simply great. We played 2 hours in and out the jacuzzi and I got extra services tipping 100k on top of the initial agreed 110k. Well, call me stupid, I would never pay a silicon girl 200k, but for this one I was mad: totally natural, firm body, tall, beautiful, unprofessional, no bullshit.

Prado is lost. Sometimes there were pretty ones, even junkies, but now only dirty junkies.

DogLife
11-12-24, 07:09
Great post!

I'm just back from a 2 week visit. I just walked about Botero during the day and La 70 and Parque Lleras in the evening.

I love Plaza Botero, except when it's raining, LOL.

Befriended lots of girls, takes patience, but I found some very cute, cool girls.

Obviously the majority I don't select, I just chill, walk about, talk with the cool ones, blow off the hard core, and always watch my back.

Parque Lleras is mostly a circus, LOL.

Fun to watch the show tho, for me anyway. Lots of low quality and some hard core hot ones that have been spoiled by the gringo madness, LOL.

My favorite girl of the trip, however, I surprisingly met in Parque Lleras.

I was walking about and she flashed a beautiful smile at me. Pulled her aside to chat. She was nice, but she initially gave me the 1 hour, one hundred dollar blah blah that seems to the norm now that they throw out.

I continued to chat with her a bit, asked for her WhatsApp, explained to her that I don't do the watch the clock, one hour thing, and that we could just meet up the next day and see how it goes together, and that I would take care of her accordingly.

I speak pretty good spanish BTW.

I liked her and I could tell she liked me as well.

After I left her, she would walk back to me from time to time to joke around a bit.

Great sense of humor.

Anyway she came over to my hotel the next day. We chilled, hung out a bit, had fun together.

Ended up about 3 hours together.

I saw her as much as I could fit her in my time, as I was with friends on this trip and was hanging with them as well.

Great trip! Met a couple other ISG guys as well. Nice dudes. No drama.

Like Moonshot says, good fun to be had, whatever your style may be, however, watch your back, always.Yes, in this trip most of the evenings were marred by the drizzle.

It was nice fun though just casually hanging out in Veracruz.

Hope we meet again soon when we are back!

Mr Enternational
11-12-24, 13:42
I've been saying this since 2021.

I knew a girl named Geisis whom I had followed to Medellin from Bogota and she specifically told me that she would work Botero in the day and then go work lleras at night and charge 5 x more to the gringos there.I have seen this in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Ethiopia, Philippines, Dominican Republic. Same girl that is $10 in one place is $50 in another. It happens everywhere that there is mongering, but some guys like to feel they are paying more for getting better. It is usually just because the girl is in a better setting, not that the girls themselves are any better.

Turgid
11-12-24, 13:50
..... she specifically told me that she would work Botero in the day and then go work lleras at night and charge 5 x more to the gringos there......I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in LLeras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? Its like I'm a bartender and working during the day pays 1/5 of the salary that's paid at night. No way I'm working during the day.

Zeos1
11-12-24, 15:31
I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in LLeras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? Its like I'm a bartender and working during the day pays 1/5 of the salary that's paid at night. No way I'm working during the day.Some work in casas. If attractive they may have 5 to 15 customers per day, and they may get 30 mil per customer after paying the cost of the room. Whereas in Lleras they may show up for a week between payoffs of 300 mil for example. So the casa wins hands down. Some money every day, average is 100 or 150 mil, and not so worried about not having anything for days on end.

Gabacho
11-12-24, 15:50
I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in Lleras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? Its like I'm a bartender and working during the day pays 1/5 of the salary that's paid at night. No way I'm working during the day.Well the way she explained it to me was that in Lleras it was hit and miss whether or not she would get a customer. They may be out there all night til 5 am and not get a customer whereas in Botero / Veracruz she would always get several customers per day. So she would go to Botero first and get at least enough money to cover her daily expenses and money for a taxi incase she needs to get home after the metro stops running then she would head to Lleras in hopes of snagging a gringo customer but she wouldn't always get one. And it was $100 usd back then Lleras was 200 mil and Botero was 40 mil. When with me I was kinda like a medium in between the two I would giver her 100 mil but always demand bareback and I would stay close by in Centro usually off of Oriental by the exito san Antonio so I was like her guaranteed quick cash option but she always knew with me we never used condoms if she wanted that 100 mil. I think only one time I used a condom with her and that was way back in 2018 in Bogota in Santa Fe and I gave her 30 mil plus 6 k for the room so it was a total of 36 mil COP with a condom in a short time room in Santa Fe. The nice thing about Bogota is they don't have these parallel street venues with different pricing all the street venues in Bogota are geared toward the locals and all roughly the same price. You got Santa Fe, la capuchina, 7 de agosto, and primero de mayo and they all roughly charge the same 40 mil or 50 mil plus room nowadays and la capuchina is even cheaper sometimes as low as 20 mil plus room but those ladies are super old like grannies LOL.

Knowledge
11-12-24, 16:23
All true, and there is the advantage for the girls that they don't have to worry about having no help if they wind up with psycho. Yes, that happens.


Some work in casas. If attractive they may have 5 to 15 customers per day, and they may get 30 mil per customer after paying the cost of the room. Whereas in Lleras they may show up for a week between payoffs of 300 mil for example. So the casa wins hands down. Some money every day, average is 100 or 150 mil, and not so worried about not having anything for days on end.

Knowledge
11-12-24, 16:29
You are applying the logic of someone with life skills and adequate financial resources, two major advantages that are extremely rare among the providers. These women are in survival mode. Many of them live in rooms rented by the day. A day or two of few or no dates and there belongings are on the sidewalk where they and their kids will have to sleep. You likely know they don't tend to live near Parque Lleras. When you need to put together enough for a meal or a place to stay you aren't going to walk past a place where you can make some money to get on the metro for a chance of a bigger pay day.


I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in LLeras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? Its like I'm a bartender and working during the day pays 1/5 of the salary that's paid at night. No way I'm working during the day.

MoonShot
11-12-24, 16:52
Yesterday I went down to El Centro to check out the streetwalkers in the early afternoon. Maybe it was the drizzle and cloudy skies but there wasn't as many girls as in the past. Still there were a number of girls hanging out. This is my impression of what I saw. 95% or perhaps a little higher were older, chubby, unattractive or average looking. I came back an hour later and it was about the same. That is usually what I see when I visit El Centro. Still you only need one girl and I did see two girls who were above average looking, in that 6/7 range. Nothing special but I would have considered them if I had to take someone. So, I think that you will be able to find at least one girl that you consider decent. But as far as stunners walking around in El Centro, I don't think so.

Now, there is always a lot of talk about girls online or in Park Lleras who also are in El Centro. That may be true for some girls but in all the times that I have visited El Centro, I have never seen a girl who is also online or in Park Lleras. But I understand how many El Centro fanboys want that to be true so they can say that they are paying much less than other guys for the same girls.

LoveItHere69
11-12-24, 16:53
I dine at neither locales and I am not doubting that that occurs. Nevertheless I find it rather weird that a girl who has a guy fuck her for $100 would turn around and have another guy (probably rougher and tougher) fuck her for $20. Why work Botero at all when you can get one guy in LLeras who would give you what you have to work five times as hard for in Botero? I thought you had a lot of experience. You should easily be able to think this through in a matter of minutes. Here is my quickie list.

Always a customer at Botero for every body type of girl.

Some girls prefer Botero locals versus Lleras foreigners.

Some have families so can not work nights.

Work days at Botero before it rains late afternoon and sometimes into the night so unable to work at Lleras.

Many girls are not as pretty as they think they are so can not earn the premium price at Lleras.

Girls like to be with their friends so if their friends are working Botero they will work at Botero.

Lleras could mean a higher chance of being seen by someone who knows them versus getting lost in the crowd at Botero.

Lleras is hella far if they are living at the other end of the city. Late at night the only option back home is an expensive taxi.

Botero they can have more "regulars" and build up a relationship than one or two flings per customer in Lleras and no future boyfriend.

I could on and on.

Knowledge
11-12-24, 17:54
You nailed it. Now, the other side of the coin is we have to consider that it is unsettling to imagine somoebody could be paying 1/10 the cost to nut in the same girl.


I thought you had a lot of experience. You should easily be able to think this through in a matter of minutes. Here is my quickie list.

Always a customer at Botero for every body type of girl.

Some girls prefer Botero locals versus Lleras foreigners.

Some have families so can not work nights.

Work days at Botero before it rains late afternoon and sometimes into the night so unable to work at Lleras.

Many girls are not as pretty as they think they are so can not earn the premium price at Lleras.

Girls like to be with their friends so if their friends are working Botero they will work at Botero.

Lleras could mean a higher chance of being seen by someone who knows them versus getting lost in the crowd at Botero.

Lleras is hella far if they are living at the other end of the city. Late at night the only option back home is an expensive taxi.

Botero they can have more "regulars" and build up a relationship than one or two flings per customer in Lleras and no future boyfriend.

I could on and on.

Knowledge
11-12-24, 18:01
This has been true since long before the pandemic back when Parque Lleras was an upscale restaurant zone. It was more noticeable then because the place was not overrun with weekend warriors and youtubers. There are guys who prefer to roll as part of a roving pack of frat boys. Lleras is the place to go for that.


I've been saying this since 2021.

I knew a girl named Geisis whom I had followed to Medellin from Bogota and she specifically told me that she would work Botero in the day and then go work lleras at night and charge 5 x more to the gringos there.

Subsequently over the years I've met many more thru Facebook and in Centro that told me the same thing.

Funny it only took you guys 4 years to notice it LOL.

-Gabacho.

MiamiBoy1
11-12-24, 18:25
I have seen this in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Ethiopia, Philippines, Dominican Republic. Same girl that is $10 in one place is $50 in another. It happens everywhere that there is mongering, but some guys like to feel they are paying more for getting better. It is usually just because the girl is in a better setting, not that the girls themselves are any better.A bottle of water costs around $1 at a grocery store, while the same bottle of water may cost $5 at the airport. When I buy $5 bottle, I totally understand that it is the same bottle that I can buy at the grocery store, but I agree to pay the convenience fee or whatever you call it. Some guys realize that some Lleras girls can be had for much less in El Centro, but agree to pay gringo tax / convenience fee so that they don't have to come to El Centro in the daytime.

I pay premium for the girls I'm seeing, but you won't find my girls working the streets or casas. They are of much better quality looks wise, they don't serve 5-15 dicks a day to make ends meet. I spend a lot of time sourcing them out and vetting them and more often than not, I get what I pay for.

Balboa
11-13-24, 00:45
Now, there is always a lot of talk about girls online or in Park Lleras who also are in El Centro. That may be true for some girls but in all the times that I have visited El Centro, I have never seen a girl who is also online or in Park Lleras. But I understand how many El Centro fanboys want that to be true so they can say that they are paying much less than other guys for the same girls.Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.

Though I do enjoy it out there.

There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.

I see them, I know them.

I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.

And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.

It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.

Black Page
11-13-24, 03:22
Funny it only took you guys 4 years to notice it LOL.I took me more than 4 years to come back to Medellin, with COVID in the middle, but only 1 night to get that concept. I am a quick learner.


For someone who doesn't come here so often you know the city very well.I have been exploring Medellin first time some 15 years ago. If you search my nick in this thread you'll read some fun stories. I was really brave.

Knowledge
11-13-24, 04:16
I am a Centro rat and I approve of this message.


Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.

Though I do enjoy it out there.

There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.

I see them, I know them.

I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.

And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.

It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.

MoonShot
11-13-24, 05:03
Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.

Though I do enjoy it out there.

There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.

I see them, I know them.

I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.

And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.

It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.I agree that El Centro can be fun. It is budget friendly and there are always girls around. Most of the girls are unattractive, old or chubby but if you are persistent, you can always find a girl or two that is acceptable. You can see the girls in person and chat with the girls before pulling the trigger. And if it doesn't work out, it is only 50 mil or so. I would recommend the Nutibara Hotel if you are going to spend most of your time in El Centro.

Turgid
11-13-24, 14:03
Well the way she explained it to me was that in Lleras it was hit and miss whether or not she would get a customer. They may be out there all night til 5 am and not get a customer whereas in Botero / Veracruz she would always get several customers per day. So she would go to Botero first and get at least enough money to cover her daily expenses and money for a taxi incase she needs to get home after the metro stops running then she would head to Lleras in hopes of snagging a gringo customer but she wouldn't always get one. And it was $100 usd back then Lleras was 200 mil and Botero was 40 mil. When with me I was kinda like a medium in between the two I would giver her 100 mil but always demand bareback and I would stay close by in Centro usually off of Oriental by the exito san Antonio so I was like her guaranteed quick cash option but she always knew with me we never used condoms if she wanted that 100 mil. I think only one time I used a condom with her and that was way back in 2018 in Bogota in Santa Fe and I gave her 30 mil plus 6 k for the room so it was a total of 36 mil COP with a condom in a short time room in Santa Fe. The nice thing about Bogota is they don't have these parallel street venues with different pricing all the street venues in Bogota are geared toward the locals and all roughly the same price. You got Santa Fe, la capuchina, 7 de agosto, and primero de mayo and they all roughly charge the same 40 mil or 50 mil plus room nowadays and la capuchina is even cheaper sometimes as low as 20 mil plus room but those ladies are super old like grannies LOL.Makes sense. It also makes sense that she would not snag anyone in LLeras. Makes no sense that a chica who can readily get clients in LLeras would work Centro.

Turgid
11-13-24, 14:08
Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.

Though I do enjoy it out there.

There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.

I see them, I know them.

I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.

And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.

It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.It does make ones heart smile when one believes that one is banging chicas for one fifth the price that other gringos are paying.

Zeos1
11-13-24, 16:30
Makes sense. It also makes sense that she would not snag anyone in LLeras. Makes no sense that a chica who can readily get clients in LLeras would work Centro.The key to your statement is "readily get clients" in Lleras. That is the problem for them. Even very good looking chicas can go days without a customer in Lleras, but perhaps get a number at a lower price in another place, for example Centro. Might make sense to do daytime in Centro, get some business, and then go to Lleras later for the big bucks on a hit and miss basis.

TheDerilious
11-13-24, 17:45
Haha don't know about being an "El Centro fanboy", LOL.

Though I do enjoy it out there.

There are definitely a number of girls that work both, Lleras and Botero.

I see them, I know them.

I don't know about online, cause I don't do that.

And I don't care about saying how much less I paid. I don't get into the silly how much I paid debates.

It's just fun to me out in el Centro. I almost always find someone that I like and I enjoy the hunt.Yeah and I like your mindset. But the problem that ego-driven guys, or even Gabacho, want to ignore is that many girls doesn't use both places. Of course, there are people double-dipping, but many girls will personally attest to never wanting to be in Centro. Many girls have attested to dropping Centro work the minute they realized they were good enough to make it in Lleras.

Still, like Gabacho and others, I only have anecdotes from about a tiny slice of girls. Some are workers from Lleras, casas, and even Centro. Some of those girls are no longer in the game and focused more on sugar daddy relationships with expats / married to them. Some of those girls have gotten out of the game once they had enough money to stabilize a career / education. For many WGs, the girls look to transition out of Centro ASAP for a variety of reasons; 1) low pay, high workload 2) more dangerous (or rather different danger types in Lleras vs. Centro) 3) general (perceived) prestige of upscale working 4) higher ROI if you make it in Lleras.

So everybody should just chill out and stfu about whether a girl is working both places or not. You will never know unless you specifically vet every girl, so it's not worth using it to stroke your own ego. But then again, if it makes you feel superior when your Centro girl lies to you that she is working Lleras to stroke your ego, that's all good. We all got to get our nut somehow.

Mr Enternational
11-13-24, 20:26
Your point is fine but you're wrong that it's a scam. A price scam is when you are getting lied to about the value of something. In this case, you are not being scammed because the airport is not telling you that their water is better or worth more than a grocery's water. They aren't telling you that there is no water available outside of the airport or anything like that. They are simply charging more because they have a captive audience / the first point of purchasing for people coming off a flight.It has more to do with their rent (overhead in general) being more than them having a captive audience. All the gasoline comes from the same depot in town, but the price you pay is going to depend on which corner you buy it on. Station A may pay much more in rent or property tax than Station be. Therefore Station A will need to sell stuff at a higher price than Station be.

Just like in Amsterdam when I asked a ho in the box why it was so expensive to fuck. She explained to me that she has to pay 250 euro per day just to rent the damn box. So she was not even breaking even until she had gotten 3 customers.

Balboa
11-13-24, 21:48
Yeah and I like your mindset. But the problem that ego-driven guys, or even Gabacho, want to ignore is that many girls doesn't use both places. Of course, there are people double-dipping, but many girls will personally attest to never wanting to be in Centro. Many girls have attested to dropping Centro work the minute they realized they were good enough to make it in Lleras.

Still, like Gabacho and others, I only have anecdotes from about a tiny slice of girls. Some are workers from Lleras, casas, and even Centro. Some of those girls are no longer in the game and focused more on sugar daddy relationships with expats / married to them. Some of those girls have gotten out of the game once they had enough money to stabilize a career / education. For many WGs, the girls look to transition out of Centro ASAP for a variety of reasons; 1) low pay, high workload 2) more dangerous (or rather different danger types in Lleras vs. Centro) 3) general (perceived) prestige of upscale working 4) higher ROI if you make it in Lleras.

So everybody should just chill out and stfu about whether a girl is working both places or not. You will never know unless you specifically vet every girl, so it's not worth using it to stroke your own ego. But then again, if it makes you feel superior when your Centro girl lies to you that she is working Lleras to stroke your ego, that's all good. We all got to get our nut somehow.I could care less if she works in Lleras as well as Centro. I just meet them, have fun with them, and if I see them some place else, I say Hi.

What difference does it make?

Of course they don't all do it. Who cares?

I don't understand the fuss. It's just the way it is.

Balboa
11-13-24, 21:53
It does make ones heart smile when one believes that one is banging chicas for one fifth the price that other gringos are paying.I could really care less what other guys are paying and never think about it.

I just have my fun, enjoy it all and move on.

Not sure why you're obsessed by it, LOL.

Tasss
11-13-24, 23:00
Someone who might be familiar with Colombian law, please don't assume, is it possible to force an unwanted chica out of your apartment, and if she doesn't want to leave, use force to eject her? The intention is not to injure her of course but if suppose I can capture the entire thing on video as police evidence that the girl is trespassing and you've verbally asked her to leave on her own.

Gabacho
11-14-24, 00:59
Yeah and I like your mindset. But the problem that ego-driven guys, or even Gabacho, want to ignore is that many girls doesn't use both places. Of course, there are people double-dipping, but many girls will personally attest to never wanting to be in Centro. Many girls have attested to dropping Centro work the minute they realized they were good enough to make it in Lleras.

Still, like Gabacho and others, I only have anecdotes from about a tiny slice of girls. Some are workers from Lleras, casas, and even Centro. Some of those girls are no longer in the game and focused more on sugar daddy relationships with expats / married to them. Some of those girls have gotten out of the game once they had enough money to stabilize a career / education. For many WGs, the girls look to transition out of Centro ASAP for a variety of reasons; 1) low pay, high workload 2) more dangerous (or rather different danger types in Lleras vs. Centro) 3) general (perceived) prestige of upscale working 4) higher ROI if you make it in Lleras.

So everybody should just chill out and stfu about whether a girl is working both places or not. You will never know unless you specifically vet every girl, so it's not worth using it to stroke your own ego. But then again, if it makes you feel superior when your Centro girl lies to you that she is working Lleras to stroke your ego, that's all good. We all got to get our nut somehow.It has nothing to do with my ego or thinking I'm getting a better deal than you guys. This was just my experience and what girls have told me. You can believe it or not I really don't care.

I've discovered a Mega Super Multiple Terminal Brothel called Classic that would blow your guy's minds and you would never even go back to Medellin again LOL. But that's a story for a different thread.

-Gabacho.

LoveItHere69
11-14-24, 01:43
You nailed it. Now, the other side of the coin is we have to consider that it is unsettling to imagine somoebody could be paying 1/10 the cost to nut in the same girl.I am a Centro Rat and only been to Parque Lleras twice and left early like 10:30 pm. I saw a few Centro girls both times. Just MY GUESTIMATE of the percentage of the Centro girls would be less than 10%.

Nounce
11-14-24, 03:01
We think differently and that's fine because that's what being human is about but I never allow myself to think I have been scammed whether it is for $1 or $1000. You do not think that you are being scammed at the airport, I do, and never ever buy anything there.My wingman and I frequent a steakhouse near Provenza. We always order a bottle of wine which is about 30 to 40 USD. This wine is from Argentina and it costs around 10 USD more or less in almost all grocery stores in Medellin. The same wine can be found occasionally on the bottom shelf of some grocery stores in Argentina and it costs less than 2. 5 USD which is literally the cheapest wine.

The corkage is about 80 or 90 mil when we were initially told it was 60. The better steakhouse away from Provenza charges only 50 or 60 mil for corkage. You can get better wine in much better restaurant in Argentina or Brazil for that money.

VanessasClient
11-14-24, 03:51
Your point is fine but you're wrong that it's a scam. A price scam is when you are getting lied to about the value of something. In this case, you are not being scammed because the airport is not telling you that their water is better or worth more than a grocery's water. They aren't telling you that there is no water available outside of the airport or anything like that. They are simply charging more because they have a captive audience / the first point of purchasing for people coming off a flight.

Labeling filtered tap water as pure Fiji spring water is a scam while selling Fiji spring water at twice the price of filtered tap water is not a scam (it might be a scam for a company to produce that water and claim it's better though). It's the same reason buying a $10 hotdog at a baseball game isn't considered a scam, just a rip-off. You're still getting something to eat and it's what you expect, it's just marked up due to audience capture which is annoying.This is the upside to capitalism; it's a free market. While capitalism does have some disadvantages, it's a gold mine for patient and intelligent people.

It seems like the real controversy is that by deliberately offering sex workers a higher price, you are then setting a new standard for other customers. Which might be true. But this is another aspect of capitalism; where opportunistic individuals (the girls) utilize shifts in the market. I think what is more likely true is that the girls are changing their sales pitch. There weren't many gringos wandering around Medellin, or quite frankly anywhere in Colombia during the 90's, because it was a bloodbath following the death of Escobar, and foreigners were getting kidnapped left and right. Then after 2010 Americans started popping their heads up all over the place. And what do the girls see? The these guys wandering around with the passports baring the red, white, and blue flag are loaded with cash. "Hell, if they have that much money, we can just ask them for more. " Word starts getting passed around on the street, and girls start noticing all these large, pale skinned guys speaking English everywhere. Now there's a shift, and the 18 year old girls who are just getting started learn the tricks of the trade from their 30 year old sisters who have been in business for awhile. "Try to draw the attention of the white guys, they have much more money than Colombians. ".

I'm not convinced that "reckless" gringos who don't follow The Code / Patron's Handbook are 100% responsible for P2 P prices going up. These girls have at least a rudimentary understanding of supply and demand. And even if they are poorly educated, some of them may have a higher IQ when you look at raw intelligence, and simply choose this lifestyle due to lack of legit economic opportunities. So, the girls can always start asking for a higher rate. But in turn, the guys always have the option to say "No thanks", walk away, and approach the competing girl down the street, or go back to their hotel. If large percentage of men consistently decide to reject the higher prices over a long period of time, business will dry up very quickly, and they will lower their rates. I don't see this happening. I don't think most Americans are disciplined enough to pack their bags, hop on a plane for a few hours, arrive in Colombia, then leave "empty handed" having not gotten laid. What, only to spend several hundred dollars on a flight and lodging a couple of months later hoping you might get a better result? No, it would take a coordinated movement amongst a very large group of men, and I don't think that's likely to happen.

I guess the better question is, why deliberately double your sex worker's salary? Are you just feeling generous today and want to leave a big ol' tip? Or are you afraid you won't get service without offering a higher price? If you just offered 10 or 20% more, that's a huge difference compared to offering 80 or 90% more.

MisterJam
11-14-24, 06:42
Only about 20% of them respond to DMs based on my experience, but it's likely because I use a fake profile.What do you expect when you use a fake profile. Would you respond to chics that are using fake profiles? Man, some of the things you read on forums. Smh. For Facebook, you need to do things differently. I have over 400 medellin chics on my Facebook page. I started here with chics that peeps world recommend. I then started to request their friends and family. They would respond once they see I was friends with someone they knew. It takes time but you will build up your network that way. I wouldn't even see the hard core chics that these guys posted. I would just befriend them. I prefer the ones that don't have gringo friends. I've met quite a few that have not been with a gringo before and was curious. A few turned out to be a little stalkish, needy and jealous. They told me from the beginning they were not prepagos and didn't have sex for money so I sort of convinced them I was a little serious minded. Well that wasn't a good idea. LOL.

Those of you who aren't trying to learn and speak basic Spanish, these chics will try and play with you. They already think we are stupid for traveling there just to pay for sex when they give it away for free with Colombian dudes. And don't think cause you are paying a lot that they respect you more. It's just the opposite. The more you pay, the dumber they think you are. If you have any Colombian female friends, ask them and see what they say. It's always funny when guys say they pay what they want and they don't care. Chics have said these guys don't know Spanish so it's easy to get more because they don't know how to negotiate because of the language barrier. Smh.

KevinJose2024
11-14-24, 07:44
I am visiting Medellin on Dec. 5th. I would like to hire someone to give me some tours. Please PM.

Gilolo
11-14-24, 13:29
I totally confirm what you say. In Plaza Botero all the girls fuck bareback! Girls ask 50 mil for fuck but if you want to fuck her bareback you have to pay 50 mil more + 10 mil for the room.

Everyday I go fuck one lady. Most of the ladies are young but most of them are not so sexy but if you have time to search like me, you always find 2 or 3 sexy ladies 18/25.

Most of them are friends and work together and are from Venezuela.

Just an advice, always ask to see the ID because I've the impression now lot of girls who work there are 16 or 17. Never go with a lady under 18. Be careful. Sometimes it's not easy, that's why I always ask to see the ID.


Well the way she explained it to me was that in Lleras it was hit and miss whether or not she would get a customer. They may be out there all night til 5 am and not get a customer whereas in Botero / Veracruz she would always get several customers per day. So she would go to Botero first and get at least enough money to cover her daily expenses and money for a taxi incase she needs to get home after the metro stops running then she would head to Lleras in hopes of snagging a gringo customer but she wouldn't always get one. And it was $100 usd back then Lleras was 200 mil and Botero was 40 mil. When with me I was kinda like a medium in between the two I would giver her 100 mil but always demand bareback and I would stay close by in Centro usually off of Oriental by the exito san Antonio so I was like her guaranteed quick cash option but she always knew with me we never used condoms if she wanted that 100 mil. I think only one time I used a condom with her and that was way back in 2018 in Bogota in Santa Fe and I gave her 30 mil plus 6 k for the room so it was a total of 36 mil COP with a condom in a short time room in Santa Fe. The nice thing about Bogota is they don't have these parallel street venues with different pricing all the street venues in Bogota are geared toward the locals and all roughly the same price. You got Santa Fe, la capuchina, 7 de agosto, and primero de mayo and they all roughly charge the same 40 mil or 50 mil plus room nowadays and la capuchina is even cheaper sometimes as low as 20 mil plus room but those ladies are super old like grannies LOL.

Mr Enternational
11-14-24, 15:02
I guess the better question is, why deliberately double your sex worker's salary? Are you just feeling generous today and want to leave a big ol' tip? Or are you afraid you won't get service without offering a higher price? If you just offered 10 or 20% more, that's a huge difference compared to offering 80 or 90% more.Because they do not know or care what it costs there. They only know it is cheaper than back home.

Knowledge
11-14-24, 15:05
I personally don't understand why anyone who comes here for a few days at a time and who stays in Poblado would spend the time it takes to navigate Centro when you can walk a few steps to Lleras and point and click your way to a date. A few hundred dollars over a week or two is a drop in the bucket when you think about the up to $2,000 it cost for airline, hotel, and food over a short trip.


I am a Centro Rat and only been to Parque Lleras twice and left early like 10:30 pm. I saw a few Centro girls both times. Just MY GUESTIMATE of the percentage of the Centro girls would be less than 10%.

Gabacho
11-14-24, 17:15
I totally confirm what you say. In Plaza Botero all the girls fuck bareback! Girls ask 50 mil for fuck but if you want to fuck her bareback you have to pay 50 mil more + 10 mil for the room.

Everyday I go fuck one lady. Most of the ladies are young but most of them are not so sexy but if you have time to search like me, you always find 2 or 3 sexy ladies 18/25.

Most of them are friends and work together and are from Venezuela.

Just an advice, always ask to see the ID because I've the impression now lot of girls who work there are 16 or 17. Never go with a lady under 18. Be careful. Sometimes it's not easy, that's why I always ask to see the ID.Even checking cedulas is not fool-proof because it is possible that they can have a fake ID. To be extra safe use a hotel that will verify the cedula by checking it against the information registered to that particular cedula number (they have a website for looking it up).

Hotel Botero Real is a good hotel that will verify IDs and make sure that your lady is of legal age before they rent you the room.

And if the girl refuses to go to that hotel and tries to take you to a different hotel like on the backside behind the church, you should view that as a red flag.

-Gabacho.