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WanderingMan
05-18-25, 19:06
Does Hotel Nakua no longer allow girls? I just booked accommodation for an upcoming trip and received the following message from them.
Naka Stay + Work, is fully committed to responsible tourism in Medelland, so in our facilities NO VISITORS OR COMPANIONS OTHER THAN THOSE REGISTERED DURING CHECK IN ARE ALLOWED. We appreciate your understanding and apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
ALL GUESTS MUST REGISTER AT THE TIME OF CHECK IN.
I will have to cancel and look for another place if that is the case, which is a bummer! The room that I booked has an awesome private hot tub on the balcony.You answered you own question with the message from the hotel, so cancel your reservation. According to sources on the Internet, local politicians are trying to change the type of individuals who frequent the area and the authorities are putting pressure on places that provide lodging to stop having "guest friendly" arrangements. Apparently Naka Stay + Work complied with the demand. This phenomenon happens many places. Good luck finding other "guest friendly" lodging in the area.
WanderingMan
05-18-25, 19:22
If you are a US citizen or permanent resident and you travel outside the country to have sex, you could get in trouble with the law. This is against federal law, specifically 18 USA Code 2423 and the PROTECT Act. 18 USA Code 2423 says that it is illegal to take minors across state lines or to another country for sex or any other sexual activity that is against the law. The PROTECT Act makes it easier for the US government to punish people who commit crimes related to sex tourism. This could mean going to jail for up to 30 years for doing something wrong in another country.Everyone should know to stay away from minors for sex purposes, in the US or abroad, and in my opinion those who exploit minors deserve the punishment they get when they are caught. Truth be told, some foreign countries would punish people exploiting minors in their countries far more than the US, so those folks should be worried about spending 20 years in a foreign prison (if they survive that long) before then being prosecuted for 30 years in an American prison. Just imagine for a moment spending 20 years in a Dominica, Thai, or Colombian prison. Additionally, no one should have sex with an unwilling partner or force a person to have sex. Those are more common sense principles; I don't need laws to forbid that, my conscious would not allow it.
Prior to the laws you quoted, the US had the Mann Act of 1910 that forbid crossing state lines with minors for immoral purposes. Again, don't pick minors, pretty simple.
To date, no US citizen has been prosecuted in the US for mongering abroad with willing adult chicas of legal age. No one.
Mr Enternational
05-18-25, 20:48
Prior to the laws you quoted, the US had the Mann Act of 1910 that forbid crossing state lines with minors for immoral purposes. Again, don't pick minors, pretty simple.The Mann Act was with women who are not your wife, not minors. That is the reason are. Kelly is in jail. That is why you have to be careful flying hookers around or getting on airplanes with them, because it violates that law and is considered human trafficking.
Words mean something. As Mike said if he is not doing anything illegal. Then you post a law about minors. That has nothing to do with adults.Right. But to answer the question as to why the authorities may be looking at your stuff going back to the US it would be to look for whatever violations they imagine you might have made. Just for fun they also look at foreigners phones, computers, etc. Coming in to the US legally, looking for who knows what.
FranciscoD
05-18-25, 23:34
You answered you own question with the message from the hotel, so cancel your reservation. According to sources on the Internet, local politicians are trying to change the type of individuals who frequent the area and the authorities are putting pressure on places that provide lodging to stop having "guest friendly" arrangements. Apparently Naka Stay + Work complied with the demand. This phenomenon happens many places. Good luck finding other "guest friendly" lodging in the area.Haha yeah I can obviously read. I just wasn't sure if that was some of sort generic disclaimer that everyone gets. This place has been recommended by a couple of people on the forum so I wanted to check in to see if this is a new policy, or if I can safely ignore it. I guess I will restart the search for a place then.
I emailed / sent WhatsApp messages to many hotels in the Provenza / Parque Lleras area mid-February to get clear answers as to what their guest policy was.
At that time, Nakua responded that they allowed guests, but charged $200 k COP per person per visit. Even if you booked your room for 2 people, the 1st one was not "free" like it is at Hotel Dix and other locations. $200 k is a lot for an extra guest, so I immediately guessed they were trying to clamp down on "visitas femininas".
I just WhatsApp messaged them again and this is what they responded:
First I asked if visitors were permitted, they said this: si se permiten visitas sin embargo estas no pueden tardar mas de 15 minutos de lo contrario deberas hacer pago de un páx adicional el cual tiene costo de 200.000 cop. Basically any visitor is allowed for up to 15 minutes, if they stay longer than that, you must pay $200 k Colombian Pesos.
Then this:
Las personas que tarden más de 15 minutos ya se tomará como acompañante why no visita, por lo tanto debe de pagar un pax adicional e identificar a la persona que ingresa con pasaporte en caso de extranjeros why cedula de ciudadanía nacionales. If they stay longer than 15 minutes, they must be registered as a guest, essentially, and must provide passport info, if foreigners, or license for those Colombians or Venezolanas (I'm guessing because they didn't specifically say *only* Colombian IDs).
Finally, I asked if visitors are allowed to stay the night, they said, yes, of course, but have to registered as guests and you have to pay the $200 k. Por supuesto! Recuerde que la persona que usted registre es la única persona que puede ingresar a pasar la noche con usted.
That's the latest for Nakua as of this morning.
Personally, I'd go with Hotel Dix or Hotel Torre Poblado, you get a freebie each day, as long as you reserved your room for 2 guests, and each additional is only $100 k COP $24 USD at today's exchange rate.
If you do stay there, let us know how it goes. I really did like the rooms and on my last visit in April, I stopped by to see how the hotel looks and they have added a really nice bar and restaurant on the main floor and moved the concierge desks to the right vs. Right in front. I also did really like the room.
Haha yeah I can obviously read. I just wasn't sure if that was some of sort generic disclaimer that everyone gets. This place has been recommended by a couple of people on the forum so I wanted to check in to see if this is a new policy, or if I can safely ignore it. I guess I will restart the search for a place then.
Mr Enternational
05-19-25, 18:33
200 k is a lot for an extra guest, so I immediately guessed they were trying to clamp down on "visitas femininas".If they were trying to clamp down then they would not allow it. By charging 200 K, they are just trying to make money off of it.
The Mann Act was with women...They should have called it "The Woman Act" then.
MikeBayArea
05-20-25, 01:38
I emailed / sent WhatsApp messages to many hotels in the Provenza / Parque Lleras area mid-February to get clear answers as to what their guest policy was.
At that time, Nakua responded that they allowed guests, but charged $200 k COP per person per visit. Even if you booked your room for 2 people, the 1st one was not "free" like it is at Hotel Dix and other locations. $200 k is a lot for an extra guest, so I immediately guessed they were trying to clamp down on "visitas femininas".
I just WhatsApp messaged them again and this is what they responded:
First I asked if visitors were permitted, they said this: si se permiten visitas sin embargo estas no pueden tardar mas de 15 minutos de lo contrario deberas hacer pago de un px adicional el cual tiene costo de 200.000 cop. Basically any visitor is allowed for up to 15 minutes, if they stay longer than that, you must pay $200 k Colombian Pesos.
Then this:
Las personas que tarden ms de 15 minutos ya se tomar como acompaante why no visita, por lo tanto debe de pagar un pax adicional e identificar a la persona que ingresa con pasaporte en caso de extranjeros why cedula de ciudadana nacionales. If they stay longer than 15 minutes, they must be registered as a guest, essentially, and must provide passport info, if foreigners, or license for those Colombians or Venezolanas (I'm guessing because they didn't specifically say *only* Colombian IDs).
Finally, I asked if visitors are allowed to stay the night, they said, yes, of course, but have to registered as guests and you have to pay the $200 k. Por supuesto! Recuerde que la persona que usted registre es la nica persona que puede ingresar a pasar la noche con usted.
That's the latest for Nakua as of this morning.
Personally, I'd go with Hotel Dix or Hotel Torre Poblado, you get a freebie each day, as long as you reserved your room for 2 guests, and each additional is only $100 k COP $24 USD at today's exchange rate.
If you do stay there, let us know how it goes. I really did like the rooms and on my last visit in April, I stopped by to see how the hotel looks and they have added a really nice bar and restaurant on the main floor and moved the concierge desks to the right vs. Right in front. I also did really like the room.Haven Hotel allowed one guest per day free, any additional was $125 k cop. They were good about the policy.
This is my 8th time here I believe. Most of the time the women I find here to take off their panties come from FB. I have seen a couple new ones and a couple regulars so far. The new ones are starting off asking for more than in the past, usually it's been 350 k. Every one so far, except for one, has accepted 250 k mas taxi. The one wanted 400 k mas taxi. She did look cute in her pictures but there are too many who will come for less. And sometimes I find the ones that want more, may not provide as good a service.
I was in Parque Lleras this weekend around midnight. There were tons of chicas. The starting rate there seems to be 400 k. In my limited experience for the one night, the really good looking ones were holding firm at 400 k, thinking they would get someone to pay that. Maybe they will. The rest were willing to come down to 300 k. As it has been stated here many times, the later it gets in the evening, the more willing they are to negotiate.
I visited New Life and Sexy Amigas over the past few days. I don't think the prices have changed but I'll post them anyhow. At New Life I sessioned with Ximena, a petite Paisa. 125 k for the hour plus 50 k propina for BBBJ. It was a good session. I would see her again. The BBBJ was really good.
At Sexy Amigas I sessioned with Giselle, also a Paisa, who was wonderful. She was a little bit older, she said 24 but I would guess closer to 28. A MILF for sure, but her technique and attitude were fantastic. Excellent BBBJ, again for 50 k propina. Only 45 minutes with her and I believe it was 100 k (but I also paid for a couple drinks so I'm not exactly sure). I would absolutely see her again, and I just might before I leave.
A couple of firsts on this trip. I flew in to Bogota and was through immigration in 20 minutes. I did get lucky because it backed up behind me a bit. But I don't think I've ever gotten through the Medellin line in less than an hour, and usually it's more.
Also, I ate sushi in a burrito just to say that I did. Judge me if you want. It was better than I expected.Great report. Is there a specific FB group page where you were hunting? Where did you stay? Colombia sounds much cheaper than my usual mongering grounds other than Thailand.
It pains me to write this review of the once great Zandaly. The news is not good. Before I get into the details, I want to remind everybody that all casas have in common. They all have up and down cycles, sometimes within a single day. So I popped into Zandaly for the first time in months last week. I had defaulted to other nearby Centro casas and I noticed that several of the girls had followed the same path. The support staff were the same familiar faces. The selection of providers was small and sub standard. The barmaid / manager knows me well enough that she didn't bother asking if I liked any of the girls from the line up. I had planned to hang out at the bar and shoot the shit with her as usual but the oversize provider seated next to me started vaping. I was all done at that moment. Probably the next time I go there will be when friends from out of town visit and want to check it out. It makes me a little sad because I've been going there for more than 15 years, including during the early days of the pandemic when they were one of the last to shut down.
FranciscoD
05-20-25, 15:19
I emailed / sent WhatsApp messages to many hotels in the Provenza / Parque Lleras area mid-February to get clear answers as to what their guest policy was.Thanks for the detailed response! I did end up cancelling with them. I got an Airbnb that was guest friendly and had some good security. Not my first preference but I was feeling nervous about potential more clamp downs by the government since my trip is only planned for later this year.
Mr Enternational
05-20-25, 17:37
It pains me to write this review of the once great Zandaly. The news is not good. I had defaulted to other nearby Centro casas and I noticed that several of the girls had followed the same path. I am lost. What path did the girls take and what is the problem with Zandalay? Are you saying it is over because there were no girls you liked that particular day?
It pains me to write this review of the once great Zandaly. The news is not good. Before I get into the details, I want to remind everybody that all casas have in common. They all have up and down cycles, sometimes within a single day. So I popped into Zandaly for the first time in months last week. I had defaulted to other nearby Centro casas and I noticed that several of the girls had followed the same path. The support staff were the same familiar faces. The selection of providers was small and sub standard. The barmaid / manager knows me well enough that she didn't bother asking if I liked any of the girls from the line up. I had planned to hang out at the bar and shoot the shit with her as usual but the oversize provider seated next to me started vaping. I was all done at that moment. Probably the next time I go there will be when friends from out of town visit and want to check it out. It makes me a little sad because I've been going there for more than 15 years, including during the early days of the pandemic when they were one of the last to shut down.I visited Zandalay when I was in Mde in April. The lineup was not great. Nevertheless, chose Hannah and had a good time. Basically, all casas have seen better days and I just tend to choose the best in the lineup who usually get the job done.
At Sexy Amigas I sessioned with Giselle, also a Paisa, who was wonderful. She was a little bit older, she said 24 but I would guess closer to 28. A MILF for sure, but her technique and attitude were fantastic. Excellent BBBJ, again for 50 k propina. Only 45 minutes with her and I believe it was 100 k (but I also paid for a couple drinks so I'm not exactly sure). I would absolutely see her again, and I just might before I leave.Yeah she's always good for BBBJ. I've been frequented her over the past several years.
DiscoverFL
05-22-25, 20:15
Words mean something. As Mike said if he is not doing anything illegal. Then you post a law about minors. That has nothing to do with adults.Nothing, except if your phone has a bunch of 19–25 year-old chica photos; it now up to the agent to decide the ages of those images and potential violation. Which means you could be held up and even be subject to potential prosecution until it can be clearly established the age of the women in the pictures, they are judging you on. Unless you have a cedula pic for every girl you get a picture of, this law could use be used to give customs authorities quite some leeway to hold and investigate. I wasn't suggesting anyone here would visit someone under 18. The discussion was about how could customs hold you up or delay you based on pictures in your phone. The law is the response. They could use it to start an investigation into images to try to decide if a crime has been committed.
Mr Enternational
05-22-25, 21:47
Nothing, except if your phone has a bunch of 1925 year-old chica photos; it now up to the agent to decide the ages of those images and potential violation. Which means you could be held up and even be subject to potential prosecution until it can be clearly established the age of the women in the pictures, they are judging you on. Unless you have a cedula pic for every girl you get a picture of, this law could use be used to give customs authorities quite some leeway to hold and investigate. I wasn't suggesting anyone here would visit someone under 18. The discussion was about how could customs hold you up or delay you based on pictures in your phone. The law is the response. They could use it to start an investigation into images to try to decide if a crime has been committed.These are old monger tales. If if was a fifth then we would all be drunk. I know many guys here claim to be blind to this, but those agents can tell by the picture if the girls are 12 instead of 21. They are not spending time on a witchhunt if the girls could possibly be 17 years and 364 days old. Reminds of me a time when a monger in the Thailand threads posted a pic of a transvestite he had been with in Europe that he thought was a woman, and other posters also claimed it looked like a woman while to me looking like a striaght up dude that used to have a 380 batting average in the negro leagues. If a guy can't tell the difference between a 15 year old and an 18 year old, then maybe he does need to be investigated.
Elvis 2008
05-23-25, 01:26
Nothing, except if your phone has a bunch of 1925 year-old chica photos; it now up to the agent to decide the ages of those images and potential violation. Which means you could be held up and even be subject to potential prosecution until it can be clearly established the age of the women in the pictures, they are judging you on. Unless you have a cedula pic for every girl you get a picture of, this law could use be used to give customs authorities quite some leeway to hold and investigate. I wasn't suggesting anyone here would visit someone under 18. The discussion was about how could customs hold you up or delay you based on pictures in your phone. The law is the response. They could use it to start an investigation into images to try to decide if a crime has been committed.Well, I have photos of my gal's daughter and her friends in my phone and they are all minors, so I guess it is just by the grace of God I am not in jail then.
Nothing, except if your phone has a bunch of 1925 year-old chica photos; it now up to the agent to decide the ages of those images and potential violation. Which means you could be held up and even be subject to potential prosecution until it can be clearly established the age of the women in the pictures, they are judging you on. Unless you have a cedula pic for every girl you get a picture of, this law could use be used to give customs authorities quite some leeway to hold and investigate. I wasn't suggesting anyone here would visit someone under 18. The discussion was about how could customs hold you up or delay you based on pictures in your phone. The law is the response. They could use it to start an investigation into images to try to decide if a crime has been committed.To avoid this issue, just delete all the chica pictures on your phone. I also delete all the chats prior to leaving for the airport. Your cellphone should be a blank slate when it comes to chicas. You can leave the sightseeing pictures on your cellphone to make them think that you are a regular tourist enjoying the sights.
KhaosMamba
05-23-25, 18:00
I emailed / sent WhatsApp messages to many hotels in the Provenza / Parque Lleras area mid-February to get clear answers as to what their guest policy was.
At that time, Nakua responded that they allowed guests, but charged $200 k COP per person per visit. Even if you booked your room for 2 people, the 1st one was not "free" like it is at Hotel Dix and other locations. $200 k is a lot for an extra guest, so I immediately guessed they were trying to clamp down on "visitas femininas".
I just WhatsApp messaged them again and this is what they responded:
First I asked if visitors were permitted, they said this: si se permiten visitas sin embargo estas no pueden tardar mas de 15 minutos de lo contrario deberas hacer pago de un px adicional el cual tiene costo de 200.000 cop. Basically any visitor is allowed for up to 15 minutes, if they stay longer than that, you must pay $200 k Colombian Pesos..For Hotel Dix is it only free for one guest per day? I've heard some that have taken without charge.
To avoid this issue, just delete all the chica pictures on your phone. I also delete all the chats prior to leaving for the airport. Your cellphone should be a blank slate when it comes to chicas. You can leave the sightseeing pictures on your cellphone to make them think that you are a regular tourist enjoying the sights.This is the right way indeed. I learnt it the hard way when once I was stopped for over 3 hours with never ending questioning and checking of digital media. And yeah, I didn't have anything bad but guys having nude pics videos can be in for serious shit. Better stay safe, it ain't fun when your time cometh.
It was rainy season but still a very good trip. Didn't check out the clubs, but had plenty of action at the casas. NL was quite busy with loud Americanos. They had the most girls, one or two could always be found to session with. Propina of 50 on top of 75 COP is standard now for media hora. Sexy Amigas was mostly hopeless this time but Antonella, Catalina and one other girl were OK. Selina at Zandalay was OK as well, Armonia was excellent with 7-10 decent looking girls.
It was rainy season but still a very good trip. Didn't check out the clubs, but had plenty of action at the casas. NL was quite busy with loud Americanos. They had the most girls, one or two could always be found to session with. Propina of 50 on top of 75 COP is standard now for media hora. Sexy Amigas was mostly hopeless this time but Antonella, Catalina and one other girl were OK. Selina at Zandalay was OK as well, Armonia was excellent with 7-10 decent looking girls.Propina is for extras like BBBJ etc. I always negotiate. Used to pay 20 for extra, now they demand little more.
It was rainy season but still a very good trip. Didn't check out the clubs, but had plenty of action at the casas. NL was quite busy with loud Americanos. They had the most girls, one or two could always be found to session with. Propina of 50 on top of 75 COP is standard now for media hora. Sexy Amigas was mostly hopeless this time but Antonella, Catalina and one other girl were OK. Selina at Zandalay was OK as well, Armonia was excellent with 7-10 decent looking girls.7 - 10 decent looking girls? Never heard of Armonia and I'm a casa man. One for my next visit.
30 K is the standard rate. 50 K is what the girls demand from foreigners. New Life is so foreigner heavy I don't doubt 50 K is the going rate there.
Propina is for extras like BBBJ etc. I always negotiate. Used to pay 20 for extra, now they demand little more.
The path I was referring to leads to other casas. I had not been to Zandaly in a while and several girls I've known have not worked there in a while. We've been at other casas.
I am lost. What path did the girls take and what is the problem with Zandalay? Are you saying it is over because there were no girls you liked that particular day?
Casas have good days and bad days. In my opinion Zandaly used to be more consistent, especially back when Cata was managing it. Sexxy Amigas and even Aiffe have been more reliable in recent months. My opinion is based on 1 to 3 casa visits per week year round. It is a beautiful thing when you can hit a sweet spot of a casa with a good lineup. The places around Laureles are all around more reliable and only slightly more expensive than their Centro counterparts. If I were not an incorrigible Centro rat who like to be in striking distance of Botero Plaza I would probably frequent the Laureles joints more regularly.
I visited Zandalay when I was in Mde in April. The lineup was not great. Nevertheless, chose Hannah and had a good time. Basically, all casas have seen better days and I just tend to choose the best in the lineup who usually get the job done.
Casas have good days and bad days. In my opinion Zandaly used to be more consistent, especially back when Cata was managing it. Sexxy Amigas and even Aiffe have been more reliable in recent months. My opinion is based on 1 to 3 casa visits per week year round. It is a beautiful thing when you can hit a sweet spot of a casa with a good lineup. The places around Laureles are all around more reliable and only slightly more expensive than their Centro counterparts. If I were not an incorrigible Centro rat who like to be in striking distance of Botero Plaza I would probably frequent the Laureles joints more regularly.Having checked out several casas in Centro, one thing that I have not tested yet is the casas in Laureles. Any suggestions on which ones are the best and how much they cost? Thanks in advance.
TradeMarc69
05-25-25, 04:16
How do you all get started setting up dates in advance on Facebook? I'm about 4 weeks out from my trip and I'm not sure where to start. I've been to Medellin a couple of times and have always found girls in Lleras or the clubs but I'm now looking to expand my horizons on Fb. Feel free to PM me.
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Hello,
I'll be heading to Medellin for the first time next month.
I only plan to go to the casas (massage spas) during the day probably in Laureles and Centro area.
I'm considering Energy Spa and New Life for the most part.
I read about Armonia, but I don't know where it is? Anyone know where it is?
Also one called Cataleya which is right next to Energy Spa. Is that any good?
I'm also concerned about safety.
I feel casas are safer than being out at night and in the strip clubs.
Is this a reasonable assumption?
Is it important taking a burner phone?
What precautions should I take when visiting the casas?
Tia.
30 K is the standard rate. 50 K is what the girls demand from foreigners. New Life is so foreigner heavy I don't doubt 50 K is the going rate there.Another thing is, some girls do BBBJ without even asking and demand 50 mil. It happened to me and my friends. They are aware as a foreigner we would make a scene out of it.
Hello,
It will be my first time heading to Medellin.
I want to visit the casas only, probably New Life and Energy Spa.
Right next to Energy I hear there is another one called Cataleya. How is that one?
Also I'm reading about one called Armonia. How is that one and what's the location?
What are some safety tips I should consider when entering / enjoying a casa?
Thank you.
Recently back from 2 weeks in Medellin.
Most of my time spent in Botero Plaza and Parque Lleras.
Haven't been to the casas in years. Since the casa map was made, LOL.
Before the invasion, the map, etc, the casas were awesome!
Very few gringos and great quality.
I know things change and you got to roll with it, however, not my thing anymore.
Anyway, always a street guy at heart, I loved the Botero!
I speak very good spanish, and searching and bantering with the chicas was fun.
Always found something nice and sweet and added a couple new favorites to my list.
Parque Lleras was pretty good as well.
Saw a handful of the same girls working Botero during the day, and met a few keepers in Parque Lleras as well.
The chicas in Lleras are accustomed to gringos obviously. Most were cool that I spoke with, and even better once you speak with them a bit and they see you're not a newbie and a cool person as well.
Botero was 50 K with propinas for more time, xtra, etc.
Parque Lleras was 300 K.
I'm not a heavier negotiator. Those prices were fine with me.
The most anyone asked for was 400 K and without really saying anything to them, they would lower the price to 300 K to get the deal done.
Some stunners in the park, some very cute, some hard core that I avoided, and mostly average type that you could find in Botero.
My favorites of the trip were a couple cuties I found in Botero Plaza.
Great trip!
Back to Brazil next week!
Enjoy!
I have been spending multiples days in parque lleras the past month. You might've seen me walking around.
Just trying to see the quality there. I've only gone to gustos once but I really think that place is done for. Who knows.
Anyways.
LLeras quality from like last 2 years has improved imo. Maybe I didn't spend enough time in lleras to give the girls a good shot.
Some interesting things:
Saw a cam girl I used to watch that lived in Bogota. Never went with her. She's not that pretty. Met her at Glow right in front of lleras.
Saw a girl who used to work in the clubs in Santa Fe, Bogota. I did her a couple times in santa fe and both times I couldn't finish with her. She's pretty but you can tell she has too much experience because she's so loose. She also works at glow.
Saw another girl venezuela girl from Bogota who used to work in the 15 min rato houses in the east side of Santa Fe, Bogota. Very cold now for some reason so I didn't go with her.
I guess this time of year girls from Bogota are coming to Medellin.
Some people leave some people come back for example I knew a cam girl who I met with multiple times from medellin. I was thinking to meet up with her now that I'm here. But when I was in santo domingo she told she might become a prepago in punta cana. I come back to MDE she tells me she's a prepago in Merida yucatan Mexico.
So. Back to lleras. The girls that go to lleras are the same girls every time. Or most of them at least because I met 2 "singers" working in lleras from barranquilla one day and they never came back.
If you see them there one time, you might see them again the next day. Same thing in the clubs. Only a few faces.
Sky park imo isn't a good club because I only saw one or two girls I liked on like Saturday and the rest were fat and on Sunday all were fat.
Glow on the other hand is a nice club the quality is I would say. 5 to 1 point better than the girls outside in lleras.
Most of the lleras girls are your average girls but there are a handful of slightly above average features here and there.
For example, very pretty faces are only a few but they probably won't have anything else.
You will find 3 or 4 with BBLs that look nice.
Girls with big boobs are rare. You'll be lucky to find one.
There's a set of twins that work as well with bbls. One of them has a boob job and the other doesn't. I always see the one without boobs because her sister is probably has a client because again big boobs are rare.
The singers quoted me 600 k. Didn't take the offer especially after talking to tehm but I did take their numbers.
A really hot girl from glow quoted me 500 k I was surprised. Because she's really hot. Didn't do her.
I went with a very pretty girl next door type probably the best face in the park. I've beenw atching her from afar for a couple days and a lot of people talk to her but she never goes with anyone. From bello. Asked for a drink. She said yes. She quoted me 400 k. Was surprised when she took her clothes off because she has a ass as well. Very nice would do again but there are more options oso probably won't.
Talked to a couple girls with pretty faces. Go their numebrs didn't do them.
The other day I went with a venzuelan with giant BBL and nice tits but not that great face. Quoted me 400 k. She was very nice. Would do again.
So that' where the prices are. I don't negotiate. I don't mind paying 400 k to 500 k any thing more is a no go. Unless I do my regular girl at la isla for 600 k or someone on par because she worth it.
Ah also: the park girl start coming in starting around 8 pm and by 9 to 10 pm all the girls that are going to work for the night are probably already there so by that time if you don't see something you like it might be better to go to another club like La isla, fase dos or go inside one of the park clubs like glow. After all 11 pm is the best time to go to la isla.
That's my strategy. I just go to the park and watch girls look at all of them and pick out the handful. And talk to all of them and get their numbers I used to do drinks but they will give you their whatsapp without that. And I could get all the girls numbers in the park but I just get the girls to either replace girls I already have or to fill aspects I don't have in myt roster like I need someone with big boobs or someone with a pretty face so I find that in the park and get their numbers to meet for later. Maybe their prices drop during the day who knows.
Hopefully this helped you.
Chris Long
05-26-25, 13:46
I have been spending multiples days in parque lleras the past month. You might've seen me walking around.
Just trying to see the quality there. I've only gone to gustos once but I really think that place is done for. Who knows.
Anyways.
LLeras quality from like last 2 years has improved imo. Maybe I didn't spend enough time in lleras to give the girls a good shot.
Some interesting things:
Saw a cam girl I used to watch that lived in Bogota. Never went with her. She's not that pretty. Met her at Glow right in front of lleras..Great Report thanks for sharing. What does BBL mean?
......I want to visit the casas only, probably New Life and Energy Spa.......After not having been for years I hit Energy when I was in Mde last month. They had the hottest girls of all the casas I visited. I chose number 18 (whose name I cannot now recall) who I rated at the time as the hottest in the lineup but unfortunately she was loose and cold and I did not finish. She was the hottest girl I banged that trip and the only one with whom I did not finish. One does not always get the best sexual experience from the hottest girls.
I hate it when that happens. I've come to believe that the hottest girl in a casa is generally also the most run through.
After not having been for years I hit Energy when I was in Mde last month. They had the hottest girls of all the casas I visited. I chose number 18 (whose name I cannot now recall) who I rated at the time as the hottest in the lineup but unfortunately she was loose and cold and I did not finish. She was the hottest girl I banged that trip and the only one with whom I did not finish. One does not always get the best sexual experience from the hottest girls.
I started my trip with 6 days in Bogota, then 6 days in MDE with the final 4 days in Bogota. This report is for the MDE portion of the trip. I had not been to MDE since 2018 and a lot has changed since then.
Hotel- I spent 3 nights at the Hotel Park 10 in Poblado and 3 nights at the Nutibarra in El Centro ($80/ night). I stayed at the Mansion many times over the years and had some great times there. I walked by to see what was going on and saw a sign indicating the property had been foreclosed / seized by the city. The Park 10 was in a great location, just a short walk into Lleras. Large rooms and a luxury vibe to the hotel. The breakfast was excellent. I had a girl come over 2 of the days. I booked the room for 2 and said she was the other guest when I checked in. They charged me a partial VAT tax on the room since she was a local. I didn't fight it since it was 10 k COP. I suspect that you will have problems and / or have to pay guest fees if you have multiple guests each day or during your stay. But I wanted a really nice hotel for part of my stay in MDE so that was fine. The Nutibarra is cheap ($35/ night) and in a great location if you like El Centro. The hotel is old but I thought it was pretty cool. Comfy beds and the front desk staff was awesome. I did not bring any girls to my room at the Nutibarra but I believe it is girl friendly. I saw other gringos bringing in girls. Breakfast included was ok. I will stay at these same hotels on my next MDE trip.
El Centro girls- There was not much to choose from on most of my strolls on 53/ De Greif. On Day 2 in El Centro I did go up to the room with a girl from Venezuela. She was probably an 8, with great service.
Strip Clubs / Casas- I did not like the remodeled Fase 2 when I first walked in, but over the course of 3 nights there, I found that I like it more now than before the remodel. I thought there were more attractive girls there now, with a good vibe. I was solo, so no issues getting a seat at the bar. I went back to the rooms with 2 different girls. Both were beautiful and gave great service. One was from Venezuela and might be the best looking girl I have had in MDE. Rate was 400 k for the girl and room. The quality of service at F2 has been spotty for me in the past (either really good or not so good), but from my experience and other gringos I spoke to, its consistently good now. I did not make it to La Isla because I liked Fase 2 so much. I also tried Barre Ejecutiva and Playmates Bar Show. Had a great Venezuelan girl at Barre Ejecutiva. Playmates was dead both times I went there. I did not make it to Energy on this trip but I hear its still really good there. That's really the only casa I go to as I prefer the strip clubs and street girls.
FB Girl- Met a girl on FB before the trip that came to my hotel twice. Former gymnast and pole vaulter, not kidding. Great body, really cute and good attitude. She actually spoke English.
Lleras- I spent an hour in Gustos one night. Great selection but I did not take anything out. I chatted with a few girls in the park across from Gustos. Some really good looking girls there. Did not take any but definitely saw some I liked. Had dinner at Tauras Steakhouse on two of the nights I was there. Excellent food, had a great NY strip one night. Lleras was more fun now than I remember it being on prior trips.
Transportation- Primarily used Uber. Took the bus to and from the airport. If you are staying at the Nutibarra, it is really convenient. Less than 20 k COP each way. Make sure you leave for the airport a little earlier than normal as the bus does multiple stops on the way (from Nutibarra). From the airport I was dropped off in the San Diego area and took a taxi to my hotel in Poblado. The tunnels make the trip a lot faster now.
DiscoverFL
05-30-25, 02:14
I'm also concerned about safety. I feel casas are safer than being out at night and in the strip clubs.
Is this a reasonable assumption? Is it important taking a burner phone?
If you are not familiar or comfortable being in a foreign city, then yes, it will be safer and more comfortable. But the GFE experience is more limited in a Casa, vs. Making a connection with a local girl that can go all night or more. So there is always a tradeoff. Don't need a burner phone, just don't be using it in end of a sidewalk or other places where someone could swipe it and run. Otherwise, it's fine.
Degenerate24
05-30-25, 03:33
https://www.medellin.gov.co/es/sala-de-prensa/noticias/captura-de-una-red-que-secuestraba-y-extorsionaba-a-turistas-en-discotecas-del-parque-lleras/
MongerHunger
05-30-25, 10:03
New Life is so foreigner heavy I don't doubt 50 K is the going rate there.The rate has increased from 50 K for everyone. No more 50 K.
https://www.medellin.gov.co/es/sala-de-prensa/noticias/captura-de-una-red-que-secuestraba-y-extorsionaba-a-turistas-en-discotecas-del-parque-lleras/This is good news. I know people on here report that the police are useless, but it appears that people complaining to the police about bars fleecing the customers are what started the investigation. It's disgusting that a US citizen was the leader of the whole thing. I hope he gets the full 60 years in prison.
Degenerate24
05-31-25, 05:19
I am curious, does it give us an Edge in negotiating if we have a local WhatsApp number? I was thinking about getting a local number for my WhatsApp.
GringoLoko
05-31-25, 22:42
Is the bridge open or closed? What's everyone's drive times from airport to Poblado? I am arriving tomorrow.
DiscoverFL
06-01-25, 17:03
Is the bridge open or closed? What's everyone's drive times from airport to Poblado? I am arriving tomorrow.I think you mean the tunnel. You can just check Google Maps to see if it is open. It currently is. Travel time from the airport to Poblado is roughly 25-30 minutes, but depending on the time and potential traffic it could take a little longer.
Saludos:
This will be my third trip to Medellin this year. The hotel I usually use will not be available. Can someone recommend a chica friendly hotel in Poblado, reasonably near Parque Lleras? Gracias!
Have a lot from a recent trip. Message me if you have similar!
Allow an hour travel time to or from the airport so you don't have to worry about whether the tunnel is open or not. Even if the tunnel is open, and it usually is, any single flat tire or accident makes it a slower route than the original trip over the mountains. That can happen at any time along with taxi protests.
Is the bridge open or closed? What's everyone's drive times from airport to Poblado? I am arriving tomorrow.
Men. . Try to treat these women like people and not objects. If you want a GFE. Then act like a BF. Just some advice from an expert. Short and sweet.
Nil Admirari
06-04-25, 14:27
Men. . Try to treat these women like people and not objects. If you want a GFE. Then act like a BF. Just some advice from an expert. Short and sweet.
No doubt valid, albeit pretty obvious, advice. But "....from an expert"? Guys, let's keep some perspective on what we're up to here as mongers: that is, paying chicas for sex. In how to go about this activity in Medellin, no doubt some of us on this board have some useful experience to share with others who are new to the city or to the hobby itself.
But experts? It's not championship chess, electrical repair, or, in that oldest of cliches, rocket science.
Most of the expertise on this thread centers on how to get a lady from Parque Lleras back to one's apartment for 250 or 300 mil instead of 400 or 500 (i.e. how to save 20 US bucks or so when getting laid --or to get a Plaza Botero quickie for 40 k with clean sheets).
Let's share our enjoyment in the wonders of Paisa Pussyland, but none of us has anything to brag about.
Hopefully this helped you.100%. These are the reports we're all looking for. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Going to copy your method when I get back there end of June. You're saying Glow is better than Gustos though in terms of quantity and quality of girls? That's news for me since I was last there in 2023.
Last time I was in Medellin, I didn't even bother with La Isla. There were just too many high-quality girls to choose from Parque Lleras, Gustos, and using Seeking. Didn't even have time to check out anywhere else.
YouHadMeathalo
06-05-25, 02:18
Oh Twins?
Working as street girls? Do they do duos?
If you want a GFE. Then act like a BF. Just some advice from an expert.Hahaha. Treat a hoe like a girlfriend and she will be nagging you to buy her everything she can get her hands on at the clothing store, and you will go along with it, and not get laid. They have to EARN every dollar they are paid. Once you let your guard down and pretend you are a nice guy they will steal from you, take advantage of your generosity and run home early once they get paid.
Very stupid advice, from a novice and not an expert.
AmorPorFavor
06-05-25, 02:31
Men. . Try to treat these women like people and not objects. If you want a GFE. Then act like a BF. Just some advice from an expert. Short and sweet.This is excellent advice and a good way to get long dates with BBFS for cheap. And make sure to give them a good fucking. They will be wanting more. Take it from another expert.
Mr Enternational
06-05-25, 04:53
This is excellent advice and a good way to get long dates with BBFS for cheap.This is also dumb as fuck. Seems like a woman made up this saying. When I get ready to leave this restaurant, I am going to pick up my sunglasses (an object) and put them on my face and ride off into the noon. As I walk out of this restaurant, I am going to pass by actual people and I am not going to say a mf word to them. I am going to act like they are not even there. And I also think they will not give one thought to me (another person) walking right past them. Do you think I am throwing my sunglasses around and stomping on them? Do you think I am hugging every person I pass and telling them to have a great day? Treat them like people and not like objects. Again fucking dumb.
And make sure to give them a good fucking. They will be wanting more.Yes. Because neither the 20 guys before you nor the 20 guys after you will be giving them a good fucking. So they will not be wanting more from those guys. Did you happen to have to give them money along with the good fucking? Maybe you are saying they will be wanting more of the money. After all, what is a good fucking without the money? I am sure they will gladly accept the money without the good fucking though.
What if you and ElBacano fuck the same hooker, but he gives her a better good fucking than you? Will she want more from him, but not from you?
You mongers and your fantasy lives. Lay off the porn!
I started my trip with 6 days in Bogota, then 6 days in MDE with the final 4 days in Bogota. This report is for the MDE portion of the trip. I had not been to MDE since 2018 and a lot has changed since then.
Hotel- I spent 3 nights at the Hotel Park 10 in Poblado and 3 nights at the Nutibarra in El Centro ($80/ night). I stayed at the Mansion many times over the years and had some great times there. I walked by to see what was going on and saw a sign indicating the property had been foreclosed / seized by the city. The Park 10 was in a great location, just a short walk into Lleras. Large rooms and a luxury vibe to the hotel. The breakfast was excellent. I had a girl come over 2 of the days. I booked the room for 2 and said she was the other guest when I checked in. They charged me a partial VAT tax on the room since she was a local. I didn't fight it since it was 10 k COP. I suspect that you will have problems and / or have to pay guest fees if you have multiple guests each day or during your stay. But I wanted a really nice hotel for part of my stay in MDE so that was fine. The Nutibarra is cheap ($35/ night) and in a great location if you like El Centro. The hotel is old but I thought it was pretty cool. Comfy beds and the front desk staff was awesome. I did not bring any girls to my room at the Nutibarra but I believe it is girl friendly. I saw other gringos bringing in girls. Breakfast included was ok. I will stay at these same hotels on my next MDE trip.
El Centro girls- There was not much to choose from on most of my strolls on 53/ De Greif. On Day 2 in El Centro I did go up to the room with a girl from Venezuela. She was probably an 8, with great service.
Strip Clubs / Casas- I did not like the remodeled Fase 2 when I first walked in, but over the course of 3 nights there, I found that I like it more now than before the remodel. I thought there were more attractive girls there now, with a good vibe. I was solo, so no issues getting a seat at the bar. I went back to the rooms with 2 different girls. Both were beautiful and gave great service. One was from Venezuela and might be the best looking girl I have had in MDE. Rate was 400 k for the girl and room. The quality of service at F2 has been spotty for me in the past (either really good or not so good), but from my experience and other gringos I spoke to, its consistently good now. I did not make it to La Isla because I liked Fase 2 so much. I also tried Barre Ejecutiva and Playmates Bar Show. Had a great Venezuelan girl at Barre Ejecutiva. Playmates was dead both times I went there. I did not make it to Energy on this trip but I hear its still really good there. That's really the only casa I go to as I prefer the strip clubs and street girls.
FB Girl- Met a girl on FB before the trip that came to my hotel twice. Former gymnast and pole vaulter, not kidding. Great body, really cute and good attitude. She actually spoke English.
Lleras- I spent an hour in Gustos one night. Great selection but I did not take anything out. I chatted with a few girls in the park across from Gustos. Some really good looking girls there. Did not take any but definitely saw some I liked. Had dinner at Tauras Steakhouse on two of the nights I was there. Excellent food, had a great NY strip one night. Lleras was more fun now than I remember it being on prior trips.
Transportation- Primarily used Uber. Took the bus to and from the airport. If you are staying at the Nutibarra, it is really convenient. Less than 20 k COP each way. Make sure you leave for the airport a little earlier than normal as the bus does multiple stops on the way (from Nutibarra). From the airport I was dropped off in the San Diego area and took a taxi to my hotel in Poblado. The tunnels make the trip a lot faster now.Tried to PM you but you're not PMable! LOL If you could PM me here or on its sister site: usasexguide please do so. This would be my first trip to Colombia and I really would love to pick more of your brains on both Medellin and Bogota man!
Might want to buy some Victoria Secret panties..Tried this approach for a woman I met on a sugar dating site, offered to buy her some VS panties. So we went to VS and got 5 pair of panties, then she wanted bras, they were buy 2 and get one free. Then she wanted another outfit for lounging around in the hotel room. Total damage was $225 at VC. Plus she wanted $400-500 more for a good fuck.
Forget the VS panties project. Women are not worth it!
What would be worse? Landing in MDE customs on a Wednesday at 1 PM with 4 international flights ahead of me vs Wednesday 10 AM with 4 international flights ahead as well.
AmorPorFavor
06-07-25, 00:00
Tried this approach for a woman I met on a sugar dating site, offered to buy her some VS panties. So we went to VS and got 5 pair of panties, then she wanted bras, they were buy 2 and get one free. Then she wanted another outfit for lounging around in the hotel room. Total damage was $225 at VC. Plus she wanted $400-500 more for a good fuck.
Forget the VS panties project. Women are not worth it!You took a hooker shopping? That is really dumb. Don't do that again. I said to give them a pair of $5 panties that you bought online if they blew your mind for a fair price not to spend $225 taking them to VS. Then you get the pics and vids of them modeling the gift and they love it.
Hey mates, I'm new to the party. I'm traveling to Medellin for a week and want to find a companion for my trip. I've heard a lot of scary stories about being drugged and robbed, so I'm thinking about a "smart" way. Is it a good idea to find a girl in Bogota who is willing to travel? The setup probably involves more than the girl, and if she is in a new city, the risk is much lower, right?
Tried this approach for a woman I met on a sugar dating site, offered to buy her some VS panties. So we went to VS and got 5 pair of panties, then she wanted bras, they were buy 2 and get one free. Then she wanted another outfit for lounging around in the hotel room. Total damage was $225 at VC. Plus she wanted $400-500 more for a good fuck.
Forget the VS panties project. Women are not worth it!You didn't say where that happened. If it was in the United States, the women are entitled to that. If you don't believe it, just ask them. !Sarcasm!
I think you will be slightly better off with the earlier arrival. I had to go to the US 5 times since January which is a lot for me. I usually arrive around noon on American. Other that arrive at that time operated by Jet Blue, Spirit, and Copa. If you are especially unlikely, your flight will arrive at one of the gates that are farther away from the immigration area. Passengers from the other flights would be ahead of you in the hallway leading to immigration. I've come to the conclusion that the number of agents manning the booths are the most important factor, assuming they aren't doing an intentional slowdown.
What would be worse? Landing in MDE customs on a Wednesday at 1 PM with 4 international flights ahead of me vs Wednesday 10 AM with 4 international flights ahead as well.
Hey mates, I'm new to the party. I'm traveling to Medellin for a week and want to find a companion for my trip. I've heard a lot of scary stories about being drugged and robbed, so I'm thinking about a "smart" way. Is it a good idea to find a girl in Bogota who is willing to travel? The setup probably involves more than the girl, and if she is in a new city, the risk is much lower, right?How will they get to MDE? It 's very long bus ride and do you really think someone will book a flight to see you? You'll be fine if you meet one woman at time in place that has security. Also, don't involve alcohol of any kind. You'll be fine.
Hey mates, I'm new to the party. I'm traveling to Medellin for a week and want to find a companion for my trip. I've heard a lot of scary stories about being drugged and robbed, so I'm thinking about a "smart" way. Is it a good idea to find a girl in Bogota who is willing to travel? The setup probably involves more than the girl, and if she is in a new city, the risk is much lower, right?This makes no sense. You're saying you're looking to match with a girl in Bogota and then take her traveling with you to another city, say Medellin? Yeah don't do that.
Just lock up all your valuables when you bring a girl over, stay in a place that has a doorman or a reception, and don't drink alcohol while the girl is in your room. You need to have your full wits about you so you can also enjoy the experience. Easy day.
Went to Lleras for the first time in a while because someone is visiting from out of town. In general, I don't like the scene but I did see some cute chicas. I would say 1 out of 3 or 4 was doable for me. I was just tagging along while my friend collected numbers. Most girls seem to start high but are open to negotiation. Some quoted in USD. One girl sent my friend the attached, which I laughed at.
You guys seem to have a fixation of putting panties on chicas, I have a fixation of taking them off.
Hey mates, I'm new to the party. I'm traveling to Medellin for a week and want to find a companion for my trip. I've heard a lot of scary stories about being drugged and robbed, so I'm thinking about a "smart" way. Is it a good idea to find a girl in Bogota who is willing to travel? The setup probably involves more than the girl, and if she is in a new city, the risk is much lower, right?Just as many druggings with chicas from Bogota so that part isn't smart. And if she is one of those types that is looking to drug you it won't matter where you take her it won't change the risk in any way I can imagine.
You can reduce your risk a lot by seeing girls in the casas, or even in strip clubs on site. Or in a few other ways as has been discussed in these forums many times. Having a trip companion would be a huge nuisance in my opinion. And a lot more costly for sure, and the biggest risk is that you get way too much drama.
DiscoverFL
06-09-25, 15:18
What would be worse? Landing in MDE customs on a Wednesday at 1 PM with 4 international flights ahead of me vs Wednesday 10 AM with 4 international flights ahead as well.If not delayed, the 1 pm Spirit from MCO is first in queue. I don't know about the 10 am.
AmorPorFavor
06-09-25, 17:22
I got the pics. Panties were not the issue.You spent $700 on that? Sad.
I got the pics. Panties were not the issue.Glad you had fun. You did you well.
Great report. How did you feel the vibe as far as security in Medellin especially in El Centro?
I started my trip with 6 days in Bogota, then 6 days in MDE with the final 4 days in Bogota. This report is for the MDE portion of the trip. I had not been to MDE since 2018 and a lot has changed since then.
Hotel- I spent 3 nights at the Hotel Park 10 in Poblado and 3 nights at the Nutibarra in El Centro ($80/ night). I stayed at the Mansion many times over the years and had some great times there. I walked by to see what was going on and saw a sign indicating the property had been foreclosed / seized by the city. The Park 10 was in a great location, just a short walk into Lleras. Large rooms and a luxury vibe to the hotel. The breakfast was excellent. I had a girl come over 2 of the days. I booked the room for 2 and said she was the other guest when I checked in. They charged me a partial VAT tax on the room since she was a local. I didn't fight it since it was 10 k COP. I suspect that you will have problems and / or have to pay guest fees if you have multiple guests each day or during your stay. But I wanted a really nice hotel for part of my stay in MDE so that was fine. The Nutibarra is cheap ($35/ night) and in a great location if you like El Centro. The hotel is old but I thought it was pretty cool. Comfy beds and the front desk staff was awesome. I did not bring any girls to my room at the Nutibarra but I believe it is girl friendly. I saw other gringos bringing in girls. Breakfast included was ok. I will stay at these same hotels on my next MDE trip.
El Centro girls- There was not much to choose from on most of my strolls on 53/ De Greif. On Day 2 in El Centro I did go up to the room with a girl from Venezuela. She was probably an 8, with great service.
Strip Clubs / Casas- I did not like the remodeled Fase 2 when I first walked in, but over the course of 3 nights there, I found that I like it more now than before the remodel. I thought there were more attractive girls there now, with a good vibe. I was solo, so no issues getting a seat at the bar. I went back to the rooms with 2 different girls. Both were beautiful and gave great service. One was from Venezuela and might be the best looking girl I have had in MDE. Rate was 400 k for the girl and room. The quality of service at F2 has been spotty for me in the past (either really good or not so good), but from my experience and other gringos I spoke to, its consistently good now. I did not make it to La Isla because I liked Fase 2 so much. I also tried Barre Ejecutiva and Playmates Bar Show. Had a great Venezuelan girl at Barre Ejecutiva. Playmates was dead both times I went there. I did not make it to Energy on this trip but I hear its still really good there. That's really the only casa I go to as I prefer the strip clubs and street girls.
FB Girl- Met a girl on FB before the trip that came to my hotel twice. Former gymnast and pole vaulter, not kidding. Great body, really cute and good attitude. She actually spoke English.
Lleras- I spent an hour in Gustos one night. Great selection but I did not take anything out. I chatted with a few girls in the park across from Gustos. Some really good looking girls there. Did not take any but definitely saw some I liked. Had dinner at Tauras Steakhouse on two of the nights I was there. Excellent food, had a great NY strip one night. Lleras was more fun now than I remember it being on prior trips.
Transportation- Primarily used Uber. Took the bus to and from the airport. If you are staying at the Nutibarra, it is really convenient. Less than 20 k COP each way. Make sure you leave for the airport a little earlier than normal as the bus does multiple stops on the way (from Nutibarra). From the airport I was dropped off in the San Diego area and took a taxi to my hotel in Poblado. The tunnels make the trip a lot faster now.
Great report! Seems you have good experience in Medellin. Is it relative safe walking around in El Centro / Plaza Botero? Are the chicas cool, they won't try to scam you or drug you? What time of day is best time to visit El Centro / Plaza Botero?
Recently back from 2 weeks in Medellin.
Most of my time spent in Botero Plaza and Parque Lleras.
Haven't been to the casas in years. Since the casa map was made, LOL.
Before the invasion, the map, etc, the casas were awesome!
Very few gringos and great quality.
I know things change and you got to roll with it, however, not my thing anymore.
Anyway, always a street guy at heart, I loved the Botero!
I speak very good spanish, and searching and bantering with the chicas was fun.
Always found something nice and sweet and added a couple new favorites to my list.
Parque Lleras was pretty good as well.
Saw a handful of the same girls working Botero during the day, and met a few keepers in Parque Lleras as well.
The chicas in Lleras are accustomed to gringos obviously. Most were cool that I spoke with, and even better once you speak with them a bit and they see you're not a newbie and a cool person as well.
Botero was 50 K with propinas for more time, xtra, etc.
Parque Lleras was 300 K.
I'm not a heavier negotiator. Those prices were fine with me.
The most anyone asked for was 400 K and without really saying anything to them, they would lower the price to 300 K to get the deal done.
Some stunners in the park, some very cute, some hard core that I avoided, and mostly average type that you could find in Botero.
My favorites of the trip were a couple cuties I found in Botero Plaza.
Great trip!
Back to Brazil next week!
Enjoy!
Great report! Seems you have good experience in Medellin. Is it relative safe walking around in El Centro / Plaza Botero? Are the chicas cool, they won't try to scam you or drug you? What time of day is best time to visit El Centro / Plaza Botero?Yes it is relatively safe, in the daytime. Chicas are cool, they need to make some $ so they will generally give you what you want for the agreed on price. Best time of day is later in the afternoon, starting at 2-3 pm until dark, the bars are hopping & plenty of chicas around. Once the sun goes down, get out. There are a few strip clubs you might want to check out late in the afternoon but as with most strip clubs, they are best latw at night & for these you arrive in an uber or taxi.
You spent $700 on that? Sad.That was my total damage Friday thru Sunday. Much of the money was buying her clothes, lingerie, etc. Which she wore proudly the next day. And she drove me around in her car all weekend. Those were US prices, a fair value. She was slightly belly fat, but huge natural boobs, so it a trade-off. Tinny titties have slim waste. Big titties come with some belly fat.
How will they get to MDE? It 's very long bus ride and do you really think someone will book a flight to see you? You'll be fine if you meet one woman at time in place that has security. Also, don't involve alcohol of any kind. You'll be fine.Haha, I guess I was over scared by some Reddit posts. But I think my logic holds.
I don't mind booking the flight for her. The risk is low, because 1) the flight is cheap, it's like less than $100 round trip. 2) She can't make profit out of scamming, it's paid directly to airline 3) She gives the name and DoB for the flight, and the airline will verify it for me when she boards.
After all, she has no incentive to scam me in the process, and once she arrives, it basically means she is really pre-screened.
Again, I agree with you that I'm probably being over cautious.
After all, she has no incentive to scam me in the process.No incentive to scam is needed; it's in their DNA. You're making a rookie mistake.
TommyD2025
06-13-25, 16:50
Anyone use Colombian Cupid? Going to Medellin in August. I hear that the dating apps (Tinder, Bumble Ect) aren't the best and more likely to get scammed. Wouldn't mind having a few girls lined up before I arrive.
Anyone use Colombian Cupid? Going to Medellin in August. I hear that the dating apps (Tinder, Bumble Ect) aren't the best and more likely to get scammed. Wouldn't mind having a few girls lined up before I arrive.Its like any other dating service. The women here generally show old photos when they were slim, now they are fatter. They want / expect money for taxi fare, anything else they can think of. If you have sex with them, they will come up with some story that you need to give them money, blah, blah, blah.
Half the women I met on that site were OK, had sex by the second date. The other half were not looking like their photos when met in person.
Anyone use Colombian Cupid? Going to Medellin in August. I hear that the dating apps (Tinder, Bumble Ect) aren't the best and more likely to get scammed. Wouldn't mind having a few girls lined up before I arrive.That site is dated. Lots older women and plain Janes. Tinder is far better for what you pay.
Anyone use Colombian Cupid? Going to Medellin in August. I hear that the dating apps (Tinder, Bumble Ect) aren't the best and more likely to get scammed. Wouldn't mind having a few girls lined up before I arrive.IMO, in Medellin it's mostly the same women on all of these dating apps. A lot of guys use FB to meet working girls now.
Have a friend in town visiting, so we hit centro yesterday afternoon, and we found some diamonds in the rough! Cute, college co-ed looking girls, both 19, sylvia and paola in town from Pereira. Took them back to my buddies room in the nutibara, and had a great time. Ordered rappi, they hung out with us till about midnight. Definite repeats. Most of the girls you see in centro are 5's and under, but if you speak decent spanish and have time and patience to sift through the riff raff, not always, but sometimes you get lucky and find some jewels.
MohdirFan82
06-14-25, 22:17
Next time you go to MDE, buy panties and bras from Shin, or Temu of size you prefer. Its better to take hooker to eat so you have companionship then shopping.
Tried this approach for a woman I met on a sugar dating site, offered to buy her some VS panties. So we went to VS and got 5 pair of panties, then she wanted bras, they were buy 2 and get one free. Then she wanted another outfit for lounging around in the hotel room. Total damage was $225 at VC. Plus she wanted $400-500 more for a good fuck.
Forget the VS panties project. Women are not worth it!
Playboy2021
06-14-25, 22:26
Spent over 3 hours in the immigration line at MDE airport after landing at 1 PM. Another hour from airport to hotel because it was rush hour. I love Medellin and have been coming for years but if they can't figure out how to process tourists quickly then I'll spend my money elsewhere.
https://co.usembassy.gov/alert-operacion-tortuga-possible-delays-at-immigration-entry-and-exit/
MysteryOcean
06-14-25, 22:40
Hello all,
I am planning to visit Medellin on 4th July week. I am bit apprehensive about app safety issue.
I visited Bogota last December, I found it safe. I had been with quite a few escorts. Been to many brothels never felt unsafe.
My question is Medellin, how is safety situation different than Bogota?
I am Indian American and whenever I go to this places, I identify myself as Indian to fly under the radar and brown skin helps to avoid unnecessary attention of scammer.
Milerotics and Prepagos worked well for me in Bogota, how is it in Medellin? Are brothel safer?
Any advice would help.
Spent over 3 hours in the immigration line at MDE airport after landing at 1 PM. Another hour from airport to hotel because it was rush hour. I love Medellin and have been coming for years but if they can't figure out how to process tourists quickly then I'll spend my money elsewhere.
https://co.usembassy.gov/alert-operacion-tortuga-possible-delays-at-immigration-entry-and-exit/Sucks but that's the new reality unless you get lucky and arrive with no other flights. As far as not returning, I doubt they care. Medellin has seen exponential growth in tourism. El Poblado and Laureles are infested with gringos.
I think I agree with Playboy on this. If you are coming here for a vacation of a week or two it's monstrous to spend the first several hours waiting on line.
Sucks but that's the new reality unless you get lucky and arrive with no other flights. As far as not returning, I doubt they care. Medellin has seen exponential growth in tourism. El Poblado and Laureles are infested with gringos.
Spent over 3 hours in the immigration line at MDE airport after landing at 1 PM. Another hour from airport to hotel because it was rush hour. I love Medellin and have been coming for years but if they can't figure out how to process tourists quickly then I'll spend my money elsewhere.
https://co.usembassy.gov/alert-operacion-tortuga-possible-delays-at-immigration-entry-and-exit/It took me awhile to find a workaround and I only have a a 5 minute wait.
I tried American Airlines and they got in late which is after 1 pm and I was stuck in line. Another option is fly to Bogota and go through immigration there and then it would be a domestic flight. I only got that option with Avianca.
I only fly Jetblue now redeye from west coast and I get the first flight to MDE and it arrives at noon or so. There's no line. I always upgrade to the first 3 aisles so I can get to front of the line.
I don't know if it's still the same.
I have a trip after a few weeks. My flight will arrive at MDE at around 9 pm Wednesday and I am expected to be ready to go downtown at 11:30 pm or 12 am.
I know many prefer picking up girls near Parque Lleras but I am afraid if it is too late. Maybe I can try Parque Lleras on the next day?
What can be done quickly at 12 am for a short fun?*I heard that La Isla club is expensive.
Fase Dos and Luna Lunera are a better option? They are strip clubs and does not have its own rooms for a short play?
What about Gusto club? Is it packed with working girls? Or any other suggestions?
Airbnb / hotels (if I booked for two) mostly allow a girl as a guest when I pick up and take a girl to my room? And the girl's ID is strictly checked?
I expect clubs accept credit cards. But do girls accept COP only, not USD?
Thanks,
TheDerilious
06-17-25, 02:39
I have a trip after a few weeks. My flight will arrive at MDE at around 9 pm Wednesday and I am expected to be ready to go downtown at 11:30 pm or 12 am.
I know many prefer picking up girls near Parque Lleras but I am afraid if it is too late. Maybe I can try Parque Lleras on the next day?
What can be done quickly at 12 am for a short fun?*I heard that La Isla club is expensive.
Midnight is the start of the night in Latino time so you'll be fine. Gusto doesn't even really start filling up until like 11 pm. So you are pretty much hitting the sweet spot if you are trying to hit up Lleras around midnight.
MongerHunger
06-17-25, 07:58
I am expected to be ready to go downtown at 11:30 pm or 12 am. Do you really want to hang out in El Centro at that time of night?
All joking aside, the area around Botero gets increasingly sketchy after 8 PM and honestly, I wouldn't be wandering around at midnight, just a bad idea. No vendors are out, hardly any police, a handful of not usually the most attractive girls and a whole bunch of drug dealers, robbers, etc. I just wouldn't be out at midnight around there, but if you're an extreme risk taker, go for it and let us know how it is!!
As someone else noted, Lleras only *really* starts getting busy around 10 PM, is truly popping about 11:30 PM-Midnight, and if you already have an Airbnb near there, then I'd just stay in that area. Lleras and surrounding streets get FULL of girls by 2 AM when some of the bars / clubs start shutting down and if they haven't already had a client, and many haven't, then the window between 2-3 AM is usually an ideal time to grab a girl, negotiate a better price because she's about to take the taxi ride home with no client money in her purse, and have some fun. I've been out all night in Lleras area, no problems, lots of police around, lots of regular vendors / beer stands / etc. Are open, so you're much safer, but still keep your eyes open and don't get too drunk or high (if that's your thing), as it can easily lead you to some serious problems.
Enjoy and please report back!
I have a trip after a few weeks. My flight will arrive at MDE at around 9 pm Wednesday and I am expected to be ready to go downtown at 11:30 pm or 12 am.
I know many prefer picking up girls near Parque Lleras but I am afraid if it is too late. Maybe I can try Parque Lleras on the next day?
What can be done quickly at 12 am for a short fun?*I heard that La Isla club is expensive.
Fase Dos and Luna Lunera are a better option? They are strip clubs and does not have its own rooms for a short play?
What about Gusto club? Is it packed with working girls? Or any other suggestions?
The strip clubs are survivable at that hour, assuming you arrive and leave by ride share app. In a pinch you can get the doormen to get you taxis but that can be risky.
Do you really want to hang out in El Centro at that time of night?
Manizales911
06-17-25, 15:41
I have a trip after a few weeks. My flight will arrive at MDE at around 9 pm Wednesday and I am expected to be ready to go downtown at 11:30 pm or 12 am.
I know many prefer picking up girls near Parque Lleras but I am afraid if it is too late. Maybe I can try Parque Lleras on the next day?
What can be done quickly at 12 am for a short fun?*I heard that La Isla club is expensive.
Fase Dos and Luna Lunera are a better option? They are strip clubs and does not have its own rooms for a short play?
What about Gusto club? Is it packed with working girls? Or any other suggestions?
Airbnb / hotels (if I booked for two) mostly allow a girl as a guest when I pick up and take a girl to my room? And the girl's ID is strictly checked?
I expect clubs accept credit cards. But do girls accept COP only, not USD?
Thanks,Parque LLeras is just getting ramped up at 11:00 pm, not dangerous at all late at night, just don't be a drunken idiot and take a taxi, Uber or Indrive when you leave. When you say "downtown" I hope you don't mean El Centro because that is not a place for most people after dark.
Manizales911
06-17-25, 15:55
It took me awhile to find a workaround and I only have a a 5 minute wait.
I tried American Airlines and they got in late which is after 1 pm and I was stuck in line. Another option is fly to Bogota and go through immigration there and then it would be a domestic flight. I only got that option with Avianca.
I only fly Jetblue now redeye from west coast and I get the first flight to MDE and it arrives at noon or so. There's no line. I always upgrade to the first 3 aisles so I can get to front of the line.
I don't know if it's still the same.The time you spend going through an extra airport completely makes up for the time not spent in line at MDE, most likely taking you longer actually and certainly not cost effective. I looked into it myself but it makes no sense to me.
The time you spend going through an extra airport completely makes up for the time not spent in line at MDE, most likely taking you longer actually and certainly not cost effective. I looked into it myself but it makes no sense to me.Medellin is already Fckup. Why would people want to Fckup Bogota as well? #looselipsesinkships.
The time you spend going through an extra airport completely makes up for the time not spent in line at MDE, most likely taking you longer actually and certainly not cost effective. I looked into it myself but it makes no sense to me.It may not make sense for you, but it does make sense for some people or my flights, there are no direct flights to Medellin so I always have to have a layover in one city. However, there are some flights that will fly directly to Bogota as the layover city and then from there fly to Medellin. So it is not an extra flights and it is not extra time. It just means that you will go to immigration in Bogota and not Medellin.
Mr Enternational
06-17-25, 22:27
The time you spend going through an extra airport completely makes up for the time not spent in line at MDE, most likely taking you longer actually and certainly not cost effective. I looked into it myself but it makes no sense to me.Sit in traffic for 30 minutes or go another route where you do not know what the fuck will happen. Patience is a virtue and you can fuck yourself by not being patient.
That site is dated. Lots older women and plain Janes. Tinder is far better for what you pay.I completely agree. I used to use Latin American and Colombian Cupid with great success, but the scammers have infiltrated those sites / apps too. I'm not even a paying member and I am getting likes, favorited and messages daily on both sites despite logging on once a week or so.
So many obvious non-Latinas pretending to be in Colombia or in other central / South American countries and some use other countries in Europe, Asia, Africa or even USA as their home. Totally missed the Latina part of these sites. If I wanted Asian or African, there's International Cupid or other Asian based Cupid sites.
These scammers all have the same pattern. One picture, minimal information on their profile and won't do video calls (duh)!
So not worth the fee anymore. I find Bumble and Tinder better, but you have to pay for a subscription to use travel mode. I've got to find out who owns the Cupid sites and email them, as it is clear they do ZERO screening. I'd estimate half the profiles are fake now. I hate being unpaid quality control for the Cupid empire. Their quality has severely dropped off. Maybe even post some bad reviews on Google Store and anywhere else visible to potential subscribers. There were always fake profiles and Western Union chicas before, but now the fakes have gotten out of control.
And thanks for your concern, MongerHunger.
By watching youtube about the atmosphere of Parque Lleras, I had misconception that Parque Lleras is a part of downtown.
I will stay near Parque Lleras and will be around that area at night.
In terms of girl-friendly accommodation, unfortunately, I already see some Airbnbs indicate zero tolerance for sex tourists, haha. Something that I haven't seen in other cities.
All joking aside, the area around Botero gets increasingly sketchy after 8 PM and honestly, I wouldn't be wandering around at midnight, just a bad idea. No vendors are out, hardly any police, a handful of not usually the most attractive girls and a whole bunch of drug dealers, robbers, etc. I just wouldn't be out at midnight around there, but if you're an extreme risk taker, go for it and let us know how it is!!
Enjoy and please report back!
Midnight is the start of the night in Latino time so you'll be fine. Gusto doesn't even really start filling up until like 11 pm. So you are pretty much hitting the sweet spot if you are trying to hit up Lleras around midnight.
The strip clubs are survivable at that hour, assuming you arrive and leave by ride share app. In a pinch you can get the doormen to get you taxis but that can be risky.
Parque LLeras is just getting ramped up at 11:00 pm, not dangerous at all late at night, just don't be a drunken idiot and take a taxi, Uber or Indrive when you leave. When you say "downtown" I hope you don't mean El Centro because that is not a place for most people after dark.
I completely agree. I used to use Latin American and Colombian Cupid with great success, but the scammers have infiltrated those sites / apps too. I go all the way back to sites like Amigos.Com and Badoo. These sites were goldmines in places like the DR and Colombia. Cupid was even good about 6 years ago.
All of these sites have now been taken over by scammers, hookers, semis, webcam models, Tranis, scope queens, chicas past their expiration dates and tricks so a lot of the regular people that they were designed for no longer use these sites in places like Medellin. When it became a popular strategy for sex tourists, a decent chica would get 6,000 messages in one day. More quality chicas have shifted to FB and IG, which allow for better screening and require a bit more effort for creeps and stalkers.
Perhaps in other cities it's different? Also, there are sites like mileroticos for guys looking for hookers so no need to flood dating sites.
I go all the way back to sites like Amigos.Com and Badoo. These sites were goldmines in places like the DR and Colombia. Cupid was even good about 6 years ago.
All of these sites have now been taken over by scammers, hookers, semis, webcam models, Tranis, scope queens, chicas past their expiration dates and tricks so a lot of the regular people that they were designed for no longer use these sites in places like Medellin. When it became a popular strategy for sex tourists, a decent chica would get 6,000 messages in one day. More quality chicas have shifted to FB and IG, which allow for better screening and require a bit more effort for creeps and stalkers.
Perhaps in other cities it's different? Also, there are sites like mileroticos for guys looking for hookers so no need to flood dating sites.I find some irony in this whole discussion. The idea that dating sites are no longer just that, but have been taken over by hookers, etc. At the same time everyone on this board are looking for hookers, essentially. Some hope to find non hookers and essentially make them into hookers, but no one on this board is looking for real dating and certainly not relationships. In reality most here are mongers looking for short term sex, but not really interested in dating and finding a partner or even a real relationship, and pretending otherwise is deceptive. So no wonder the word gets out and these sites no longer work well for real dating or relationships.
Mr Enternational
06-18-25, 15:06
I completely agree. I used to use Latin American and Colombian Cupid with great success, but the scammers have infiltrated those sites / apps too. I'm not even a paying member and I am getting likes, favorited and messages daily on both sites despite logging on once a week or so.
So many obvious non-Latinas pretending to be in Colombia or in other central / South American countries and some use other countries in Europe, Asia, Africa or even USA as their home. Totally missed the Latina part of these sites. If I wanted Asian or African, there's International Cupid or other Asian based Cupid sites.
These scammers all have the same pattern. One picture, minimal information on their profile and won't do video calls (duh)!
So not worth the fee anymore. I find Bumble and Tinder better, but you have to pay for a subscription to use travel mode.Out with the old; in with the new. 100% agree with everything you said. I have been a paying member on Latin American Cupid for 20 years. I wrote them back in April complaining about the amount of scammers. They replied that it basically comes with the territory. So many ways they can screen them out, but they do not, so I will vote with my feet. My yearly membership expires tomorrow and I will not be renewing.
In addition to the ways you have written about how to detect the scammers, you can also tell by the setting in their pictures. The insides of houses do not look the same in the USA as they do in Colombia, as they do in Brazil, as they do in the Dominican Republic, and so on. If you have been to these places then you can tell right off the pictures are not the place their profile is claiming they are.
That being said, I met my newest girlfriend on Bumble. She just turned 23. I am 53. The first thing I said to her is that those pictures do not look like the Dominican Republic. She said they are not. She had taken them when she visited family in Texas. Turned out to be legit. I have since visited her at home in the Dominican Republic and last month she came to visit me at my house in the States for 10 days.
The lifetime Bumble membership only cost 2 years of what the Cupid membership did and it can be used worldwide. I have used it in various countries including Colombia, Brazil, Peru, Kenya, Tanzania, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Thailand, Korea, and Philippines to name a few.
I find some irony in this whole discussion. The idea that dating sites are no longer just that, but have been taken over by hookers, etc. At the same time everyone on this board are looking for hookers, essentially. Some hope to find non hookers and essentially make them into hookers, but no one on this board is looking for real dating and certainly not relationships. In reality most here are mongers looking for short term sex, but not really interested in dating and finding a partner or even a real relationship, and pretending otherwise is deceptive. So no wonder the word gets out and these sites no longer work well for real dating or relationships.I agree. This whole website is basically guys looking for hookers and not guys looking for love and marriage or a long term girlfriend. To complain about dating sites being invaded by mongers and working girls is quite ironic for someone who is on this website. Thai Friendly in Pattaya is the same way as a great way for guys to find working girls and hookers.
I go all the way back to sites like Amigos.Com and Badoo. These sites were goldmines in places like the DR and Colombia. Cupid was even good about 6 years ago.
All of these sites have now been taken over by scammers, hookers, semis, webcam models, Tranis, scope queens, chicas past their expiration dates and tricks so a lot of the regular people that they were designed for no longer use these sites in places like Medellin. When it became a popular strategy for sex tourists, a decent chica would get 6,000 messages in one day. More quality chicas have shifted to FB and IG, which allow for better screening and require a bit more effort for creeps and stalkers.
Perhaps in other cities it's different? Also, there are sites like mileroticos for guys looking for hookers so no need to flood dating sites.I should add that I do not target Medellin. I focus on other cities in Colombia and other South and Central American countries. I have spent 2 nights in Medellin wifed up with a VZ lady from Bogota and Medellin was not my cup of tea. Small sample size though, so I may give it another try when I am not wifed up. I enjoyed Guatape more.
Out with the old; in with the new. 100% agree with everything you said. I have been a paying member on Latin American Cupid for 20 years. I wrote them back in April complaining about the amount of scammers. They replied that it basically comes with the territory. So many ways they can screen them out, but they do not, so I will vote with my feet. My yearly membership expires tomorrow and I will not be renewing.
In addition to the ways you have written about how to detect the scammers, you can also tell by the setting in their pictures. The insides of houses do not look the same in the USA as they do in Colombia, as they do in Brazil, as they do in the Dominican Republic, and so on. If you have been to these places then you can tell right off the pictures are not the place their profile is claiming they are.
That being said, I met my newest girlfriend on Bumble. She just turned 23. I am 53. The first thing I said to her is that those pictures do not look like the Dominican Republic. She said they are not. She had taken them when she visited family in Texas. Turned out to be legit. I have since visited her at home in the Dominican Republic and last month she came to visit me at my house in the States for 10 days.
The lifetime Bumble membership only cost 2 years of what the Cupid membership did and it can be used worldwide. I have used it in various countries including Colombia, Brazil, Peru, Kenya, Tanzania, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Thailand, Korea, and Philippines to name a few.Agree wholeheartedly and good plan you have. There's so many scammer tells. Doubtful I will pay for Cupid anymore. There response is lazy, incompetent and inaccurate. They just can't be bothered to earn their subscription fees.
I should add that I do not target Medellin. I focus on other cities in Colombia and other South and Central American countries. I have spent 2 nights in Medellin wifed up with a VZ lady from Bogota and Medellin was not my cup of tea. Small sample size though, so I may give it another try when I am not wifed up. I enjoyed Guatape more.Other cities are probably a better bet for those websites. Someone said they found a GF from one of the sites in another country and that sounds like a good move as well. I don't assume everyone on the this website has the same mindset, objective or MO.
As stated, for purely transactional exchanges in Medellin, there are websites dedicated to that specific purpose. You don't need a paid subscription to use them. Probably better for avoiding the scammers as well.
MohdirFan82
06-18-25, 23:11
I am Malaysian I do not stand out in crowed when I go to El Centro, in MDE specially El Centro after 8 pm I had zero problems.
My to go places in El Centro are Playmates Bar after 7 pm, and during the day time around plaza Botaro.
Same Plaza Borato girls dolled up and go to Park and ask 400 K.
As long as you are inside the club / Establishment you are fine. Uber picks me up right infront of the club.
All joking aside, the area around Botero gets increasingly sketchy after 8 PM and honestly, I wouldn't be wandering around at midnight, just a bad idea. No vendors are out, hardly any police, a handful of not usually the most attractive girls and a whole bunch of drug dealers, robbers, etc. I just wouldn't be out at midnight around there, but if you're an extreme risk taker, go for it and let us know how it is!!
As someone else noted, Lleras only *really* starts getting busy around 10 PM, is truly popping about 11:30 PM-Midnight, and if you already have an Airbnb near there, then I'd just stay in that area. Lleras and surrounding streets get FULL of girls by 2 AM when some of the bars / clubs start shutting down and if they haven't already had a client, and many haven't, then the window between 2-3 AM is usually an ideal time to grab a girl, negotiate a better price because she's about to take the taxi ride home with no client money in her purse, and have some fun. I've been out all night in Lleras area, no problems, lots of police around, lots of regular vendors / beer stands / etc. Are open, so you're much safer, but still keep your eyes open and don't get too drunk or high (if that's your thing), as it can easily lead you to some serious problems.
Enjoy and please report back!
Hey gents, it's been about 3 to 3. 5 years since I was in Medellin and it seems a lot has happened since then. Does parque lleras still got plenty of skinny young Venecas loitering around? If so what's the current rate?
On my first trip I did Airbnb. Approached the girls on the street, took a cab to the apartment in Poblado, so very close, Didn't drink around the girls and pretty much kicked them out once finished. I never had any trouble. Should I expect any different this time around? I also had good luck with some gorgeous college girls I met on tinder.
I agree. This whole website is basically guys looking for hookers and not guys looking for love and marriage or a long term girlfriend. To complain about dating sites being invaded by mongers and working girls is quite ironic for someone who is on this website. Thai Friendly in Pattaya is the same way as a great way for guys to find working girls and hookers.Western laws made hookers safer and a better option than marriage and turned the vast majority of women into quasi hookers. Convince me I'm wrong.
Western laws made hookers safer and a better option than marriage and turned the vast majority of women into quasi hookers. Convince me I'm wrong.The bottom line of the man woman relationship is the transfer of money from the man to the woman. The intricacies of how its done varies from one country to the other.
The old retired guys here seem very content. They take the precautions necessary not to be drugged and robbed and the ones that I have talked to have not had any issues so far. Because they are retied, they tend to visit for a few months at a time or live here now. They are all very sexually satisficed. Some have girlfriends now. Most have a stable of regular girls that they see and trust. They generally don't engage in the type of debates you see on this thread and don't really care what others pay. It is a very different experience for them because they have time and are in no rush.
You made a controversial statement about Botero girls in Lleras. I know it to be true but I'm also fascinated by the energy of of the disputes and denials. To be honest, I first became aware of it by watching youtube videos. I was surprised by how many of the girls I recognized. I've been to Lleras maybe five times in the past year. On the other, there are weeks when I'm in Botero Plaza three or four times. I respect the hustle. It makes perfect sense girls would risk the gauntlet of pimps, aggressively territorial venezolanas and police hassles for a chance to collect almost 10 times their normal fee.
I am Malaysian I do not stand out in crowed when I go to El Centro, in MDE specially El Centro after 8 pm I had zero problems.
My to go places in El Centro are Playmates Bar after 7 pm, and during the day time around plaza Botaro.
Same Plaza Borato girls dolled up and go to Park and ask 400 K.
As long as you are inside the club / Establishment you are fine. Uber picks me up right infront of the club.
Mr Enternational
06-20-25, 15:26
Western laws made hookers safer and a better option than marriage and turned the vast majority of women into quasi hookers. Convince me I'm wrong.You are wrong. The hookers have always been there. It is just that today they are not ashamed to advertise it openly, and certain websites and social media platforms allow them to. Because there are many, you are falsely assuming it is the vast majority, which it is not.
For those that live here or visit frequently, you quickly notice that a disproportionate number of the best looking girls come from Bello. We were in the park last night and as always sifting through the usual suspects when we came across a group of 4 girls that we had never seen before. Dressed nice but not too slutty, they just stood out from all the rest. We chatted them up and sure enough Bello girls. We invited them to go to La 70 with us where we bounced around to a few different places, dancing and and everyone having a good time. Luckily my buddy's airbnb is just off of la 70, so we all stumbled back to his place around 3:30, two girls fell asleep on the sofa, and my buddy and I paired up with the other 2. Waking up with this 21 year old hottie asleep next to me, priceless.
Enter The V
06-21-25, 13:17
Is Lutron still open up in the mountain? I remember the legendary Line ups.
For those that live here or visit frequently, you quickly notice that a disproportionate number of the best looking girls come from Bello. Hard for me to say that because there are beautiful women all over Medellin. There are a lot of pretty girls that live in the various barrios in and around Medellin. Bello does have its share, no doubt. I know someone that has lived there for about 10 years and he loves it.
For those that live here or visit frequently, you quickly notice that a disproportionate number of the best looking girls come from Bello.......one having a good time. Luckily my buddy's airbnb is just off of la 70, so we all stumbled back to his place around 3:30, two girls fell asleep on the sofa, and my buddy and I paired up with the other 2. Waking up with this 21 year old hottie asleep next to me, priceless.
For what it's worth, many girls will say that so that they can demand a larger uber / taxi fee home or when they visit you in the future. Girls have been pulling that for the nearly 15 years I've been going to Medellin.
Do you really want to hang out in El Centro at that time of night?In hindsight, probably not the smartest, but when I used to go to Medellin more frequently (2014-2018), I would regularly go to Barra Ejecutiva and others in El Centro at 11/11:30 pm. The thing is that you want to do Uber door to door (don't take the taxis they offer as they'll try to overcharge). I'd also wear bland, dark clothes, no jewelry, and try to cover my arms (I'm very white LOL). If you do need to walk around, move fast, don't engage and cross the street if you need to.
In hindsight, probably not the smartest, but when I used to go to Medellin more frequently (2014-2018), I would regularly go to Barra Ejecutiva and others in El Centro at 11/11:30 pm. The thing is that you want to do Uber door to door (don't take the taxis they offer as they'll try to overcharge). I'd also wear bland, dark clothes, no jewelry, and try to cover my arms (I'm very white LOL). If you do need to walk around, move fast, don't engage and cross the street if you need to.When I was less risk-averse, I used to do the same! Even walked between Conejitas and Ejecutivo a few times around midnight. I had my head on a swivel and was ready to run at the slightest threat. But even then, stupid thing to do.
In hindsight, probably not the smartest, but when I used to go to Medellin more frequently (2014-2018), I would regularly go to Barra Ejecutiva and others in El Centro at 11/11:30 pm. The thing is that you want to do Uber door to door (don't take the taxis they offer as they'll try to overcharge). I'd also wear bland, dark clothes, no jewelry, and try to cover my arms (I'm very white LOL). If you do need to walk around, move fast, don't engage and cross the street if you need to.Good luck finding a driver crazy enough to take you!
This is one of two reasons I always order uber or didi on behalf of girls and never hand over cash or entertain conversations about fares. The other reason is the convenience of being able to track arrivals and departures, especially arrivals. You can never get the time back that you spend sitting, waiting, and wondering when or if a girl will show up. Guys who are on short trips should never piss any of it away doing that. It's so much better to have an ETA countdown available, along with an upfront cost. It's 2025, let's take advantage of what's available to us.
For what it's worth, many girls will say that so that they can demand a larger uber / taxi fee home or when they visit you in the future. Girls have been pulling that for the nearly 15 years I've been going to Medellin.
When I was less risk-averse, I used to do the same! Even walked between Conejitas and Ejecutivo a few times around midnight. .I had great times at those bars pre C19. Doesn't seem like they regained their mojo, but I haven't checked in about a year. I'll have to stop in when I'm in El Central and I remember.
Mojo Bandit
06-24-25, 20:09
This is one of two reasons I always order uber or didi on behalf of girls and never hand over cash or entertain conversations about fares. The other reason is the convenience of being able to track arrivals and departures, especially arrivals. You can never get the time back that you spend sitting, waiting, and wondering when or if a girl will show up. Guys who are on short trips should never piss any of it away doing that. It's so much better to have an ETA countdown available, along with an upfront cost. It's 2025, let's take advantage of what's available to us.I am not disagreeing with your method but if others are not using Uber or Didi and chica is coming to see you by taxi that you met on FB or are friends with on FB you can also have her share her location via FB messenger. They open messenger conversation with you and hit the + sign next to the chat box and menu pops up and "Location" is a choice they select then you can track them.
I learned this after I had been waiting for a chica for an hour who said she had already left and I texted her and she sent me a picture of her in the car. Problem is when she showed up (an hour and forty-five minutes late all together) she as wearing a red dress and the photo she sent me of her in the car she had on a yellow top??
I'm visiting Medellin in a couple of weeks and have booked a stay at Hotel Nutibara in El Centro, as I've heard great things about its proximity to Plaza Botero and Parque Berrío. My flight lands at 9 PM, and I expect to be out of the airport by around 11 PM after immigration.
Would it be safe at that hour to take the Airport-Nutibara bus to the final stop just right behind the Nutibara hotel and a 2-minute walk with my luggage or would you recommend taking an Uber directly to the hotel entrance instead?
GringoLoko
06-25-25, 14:27
Hey everyone, what's the best spots to eat in el Poblado by parque Lleras?
I'm visiting Medellin in a couple of weeks and have booked a stay at Hotel Nutibara in El Centro, as I've heard great things about its proximity to Plaza Botero and Parque Berro. My flight lands at 9 PM, and I expect to be out of the airport by around 11 PM after immigration.
Would it be safe at that hour to take the Airport-Nutibara bus to the final stop just right behind the Nutibara hotel and a 2-minute walk with my luggage or would you recommend taking an Uber directly to the hotel entrance instead?I think you would be OK, but there is always the chance that something could jump off. Personally, I would take a cab, which only cost about $20 usd and will get you there quickly and safely.
I think you would be OK, but there is always the chance that something could jump off. Personally, I would take a cab, which only cost about $20 usd and will get you there quickly and safely.Thank you. I'm not concerned about the $20 cost of a cab, I was actually thinking that taking a public bus that drops me off right behind the hotel might be safer than riding alone in a taxi around midnight.
Thank you. I'm not concerned about the $20 cost of a cab, I was actually thinking that taking a public bus that drops me off right behind the hotel might be safer than riding alone in a taxi around midnight.90% chance you would be OK in the bus. I haven't used the bus in about 10 years, but I assume it's still OK.
As far as safety with a cab, if you use Uber or Didi, you should be safe. The driver is registered with the app. You have to go upstairs to departures to use Uber. They don't come around arrivals because there are already airport white taxis on the arrivals floor that don't like the competition of Uber. When you arrive, there will be various people there trying to get you to ride with them. I would avoid those people. Use the bus or Uber instead.
You can also use one of the official white airport taxis and the prices should be posted and they are more expensive than Uber.
This is one of two reasons I always order uber or didi on behalf of girls and never hand over cash or entertain conversations about fares. The other reason is the convenience of being able to track arrivals and departures, especially arrivals. You can never get the time back that you spend sitting, waiting, and wondering when or if a girl will show up. Guys who are on short trips should never piss any of it away doing that. It's so much better to have an ETA countdown available, along with an upfront cost. It's 2025, let's take advantage of what's available to us.
Yes, I really like knowing exactly when they are going to arrive. The one time I didn't send an Uber for a girl she had a dude she was living with (not a BF) and trading favors (fucking for rent) arrived with her to my Airbnb. He wanted to see who she was fucking. As if that would make him feel better. It didn't. He mean mugged me while I opened the gate and let her whilst I smiled and waved to him.
Hey everyone, what's the best spots to eat in el Poblado by parque Lleras?There are hundreds of restaurants in Poblado, with many near parque Lleras. You may want to be a bit more specific about what kind of food you are looking for, and then I'm sure there will be some recommendations.
FlowState985
06-25-25, 23:40
I'm visiting Medellin in a couple of weeks and have booked a stay at Hotel Nutibara in El Centro, as I've heard great things about its proximity to Plaza Botero and Parque Berro. My flight lands at 9 PM, and I expect to be out of the airport by around 11 PM after immigration.
Would it be safe at that hour to take the Airport-Nutibara bus to the final stop just right behind the Nutibara hotel and a 2-minute walk with my luggage or would you recommend taking an Uber directly to the hotel entrance instead?It is safe, especially during the day. It is a very short walk because it is right behind the hotel, you walk in past the in-hotel restaurant if you don't feel comfortable going around.
FlowState985
06-25-25, 23:45
It is safe, especially during the day. It is a very short walk because it is right behind the hotel, you walk in past the in-hotel restaurant if you don't feel comfortable going around.I realized you said PM. I still think it is fine. The in-hotel restaurant might be closed thou so you might have walk around to the front desk. However, if you haven't been to the area at night and not familiar with it, I'd just go with uber / taxi option.
Totally depends on what you're looking for:
Brunch:
Cafe Noir. Super freaking expensive, seriously US prices, but great ambiance, pretty great French Toast, but honestly get the huevos revueltos con queso. Scrambled eggs and cheese, goddamn, so good!
Floretto. Also great french toast and just a nice little cafe, nice people, right on a corner. Great spot.
Cambria. Further away in the Manila area, but everything I've had there is good and that's saying something.
Lunch:
El Imperador right on Calle 10. Nice people, you can get a traditional Colombian lunch, with soup and a side of bread or whatever, probably $5-7 tops. Affordable, easy location, good food.
Mondongos. Also right on Calle 10. Decent traditional food, but overhyped a bit in my opinion.
Dinner:
La Matriarca southwest of Parque El Poblado. Traditional Colombian food, really good. My friend and I tried several things, all of it was good. Also they had live music every day we were there and it was a nice spot.
Costillas de Pedro. Right by Parque El Poblado. Their ribs are HUGE, super meaty and honestly I can barely choke down 2. So if you go, get the smallest rib order you can get, plus the fries. You're done.
El Correo Provenza. Great steak spot. I got a peppered steak there 2 or 3 trips ago, and have been completely jonesing to get again. But my fucking keeps getting in the way. Great place to take a "nicely dressed" chica on a date though, if you're interested in doing that.
El Teatro de Victoria. Surprisingly great food. Nothing we ate there was bad. The appetizers were stupid good, the main course was also stupid good. The owners of this place also own Yacky Chan and the other place directly across the street, so I'd expect the food from all 3 places to be good, but please eat at one of the other 2 and let us know!
Late night drunk eating:
Pollos Al Carbon on Calle 10, right next to El Imperador. Great rotisserie and fried chicken, roasted potatoes are also great, just a great spot for late night drunk eating, but since it's so good and cheap, I'd go there pretty much any time.
Hey everyone, what's the best spots to eat in el Poblado by parque Lleras?
I realized you said PM. I still think it is fine. The in-hotel restaurant might be closed thou so you might have walk around to the front desk. However, if you haven't been to the area at night and not familiar with it, I'd just go with uber / taxi option.Not sure if this is still on the menu, but some of the buses stopped at San Diego mall and you could split the price and safety difference that way.
MongerFriend
06-26-25, 22:24
What are everyone's latest favorite casas?
I have been avoiding casas for sometime after a mediocre experience in Purple Elixir? The operator was non responsive at the time of my session, lead me to waiting at a dark doorstep for 20 minutes.
Eventually a Venezuelan girl opened the door. She was okay, looks wise but really paranoid. Kept saying can't do this, can't do that. Totally killed it. Was horny enough to nut but that experience killed my casa urge.
Would like to get back and curious if people have favorites.
In the past, there have been some ridiculously well run casas. Disciplined, clean, great communication, but that seems to have died.
I have RTFF'ed about 121 pages, till about March 2024.
In the past, there have been some ridiculously well run casas. Disciplined, clean, great communication, but that seems to have died.Dunno what are the good ones currently, but what were the well run casas you mentioned? I'll go personally this week and report back jaja.
In the past, there have been some ridiculously well run casas. Disciplined, clean, great communication, but that seems to have died.
.Pretty much after C19. Many closed. The vibe changed and the talent fell off.
FlowState985
06-27-25, 04:41
What are everyone's latest favorite casas?
I have been avoiding casas for sometime after a mediocre experience in Purple Elixir? The operator was non responsive at the time of my session, lead me to waiting at a dark doorstep for 20 minutes.
Eventually a Venezuelan girl opened the door. She was okay, looks wise but really paranoid. Kept saying can't do this, can't do that. Totally killed it. Was horny enough to nut but that experience killed my casa urge.
Would like to get back and curious if people have favorites.
In the past, there have been some ridiculously well run casas. Disciplined, clean, great communication, but that seems to have died.
I have RTFF'ed about 121 pages, till about March 2024.Casa is always hit and miss, but they are cheap and quick option, daytime activity. That's why you go around to a few casas in centro and pick one you like. I haven't been back for like 2 years but going back to Medellin in a couple of weeks to check out the scene again and see how it is now.
MongerFriend
06-27-25, 13:13
Pretty much after C19. Many closed. The vibe changed and the talent fell off.I don't remember the nice ones I used to like. This was pre pandemic. The names were standard spa names, like Lotus or Tantra or something.
There were 2 really good ones. One in Centro and one in Laureles. The centro was a little seedier than Luareles. But both had 15-25 girls. And they were ALWAYS a few great ones. Prices were about $40 for an hour.
Right now, Ella's Eroticas looks promising. They have 2 locations now. If you go, please report.
I don't remember the nice ones I used to like. This was pre pandemic. The names were standard spa names, like Lotus or Tantra or something.
There were 2 really good ones. One in Centro and one in Laureles. The centro was a little seedier than Luareles. But both had 15-25 girls. And they were ALWAYS a few great ones. Prices were about $40 for an hour.
Right now, Ella's Eroticas looks promising. They have 2 locations now. If you go, please report.Before C19, if you were around Parque Bolivar, you couldn't walk 2 blocks without being handed a card for a casa. You could walk around and easily leave El Centro with 6 cards to different casas. Then there were many that you happened upon accidentally or someone was standing near one and would verbally tell you there were girls at that location. Those days are done, for the most part in El Centro. There are still a few casas, but I think a lot of the girls have found more profitable ways to make money after the post C19 gringo invasion in Medellin. The casas in Laureles might still be OK, but my experience was that they were a bit more expensive and not as crazy as El Centro.
I don't remember the nice ones I used to like. There were 2 really good ones. One in Centro and one in Laureles. The centro was a little seedier than Luareles. But both had 15-25 girls. And they were ALWAYS a few great ones. Prices were about $40 for an hour.I think the only ones that normally had that many chicas were New Life in Centro and Energy Spa in Laureles. Pre-Covid, I think New Life was 60 mil COP for an hour, and Energy was about 150 mil.
Travel Spirit
06-27-25, 23:27
Today in the morning, the roster of New Life was disappointing, but ten days ago it was very interesting.
MongerFriend
06-28-25, 03:22
I think the only ones that normally had that many chicas were New Life in Centro and Energy Spa in Laureles. Pre-Covid, I think New Life was 60 mil COP for an hour, and Energy was about 150 mil.You could be right. These do sound familiar. That said, I don't believe I have seen much references to these on this forum in a while.
Are these still good?
How do I connect with them? I don’t see a website for New Life.
You could be right. These do sound familiar. That said, I don't believe I have seen much references to these on this forum in a while.
Are these still good?
How do I connect with them? I dont see a website for New Life.Both are still open. I haven't been to either in a while. The last time I was at New Life, they had a lot of big chicas. I've read that many of the customers are gringos who most respectful people wouldn't be hanging around with. Energy has a website (chicasenergy.com), but I don't think New Life does. It's difficult to find anything about New Life on the internet. The address of New Life is CL 56 #43-39.
Mr Enternational
06-28-25, 13:30
The last time I was at New Life, they had a lot of big chicas. I've read that many of the customers are gringos who most respectful people wouldn't be hanging around with.Yeah well hanging around in a horehouse and respectability do not exactly go hand in hand. So who is really out of place? It is a horehouse, not a library or a church. Most respectful people probably would not want to be hanging around with the customers of a crack house either.
I'll be in Medellin from July 13–18, staying at the Nutibara Hotel in Centro. If anyone visiting and up for checking out Plaza Botero and Casas in the area during the daytime, send me a message.
Yeah well hanging around in a horehouse and respectability do not exactly go hand in hand. So who is really out of place? It is a horehouse, not a library or a church. Most respectful people probably would not want to be hanging around with the customers of a crack house either.Crack is an illegal substance. Prostitution is legal in Colombia. Many professional and respectful people partake of the services of prostitutes. It's a false comparison between crack and prostitution, but probably no one expects anything logical from you.
LittleShrimp
06-29-25, 04:23
Any recommendation for hourly hotel in Poblado?
PutaPioneer
06-29-25, 10:33
Hey everyone, what's the best spots to eat in el Poblado by parque Lleras?The chicken place on calle 10. The one closer to subway.
Both are still open. I haven't been to either in a while. The last time I was at New Life, they had a lot of big chicas. I've read that many of the customers are gringos who most respectful people wouldn't be hanging around with. Energy has a website (chicasenergy.com), but I don't think New Life does. It's difficult to find anything about New Life on the internet. The address of New Life is CL 56 #43-39.NL increased their prices from 75 mil for half an hour. Girls are not pretty anymore as they used to be. Everything is extra, starting 50 m. Lately this place is disappointing.
Mamasan is arrogant and aggressive as well for the tips.
NL increased their prices from 75 mil for half an hour. Girls are not pretty anymore as they used to be. Everything is extra, starting 50 m. Lately this place is disappointing.
Mamasan is arrogant and aggressive as well for the tips.NL was my spot about 12 years ago. Even before that I knew dudes that would practically live in there and a few met their GFs there. Back then, I think you could meet a lot more part timers and students trying to make a quick peso. I remember when taking pics wasn't a big deal and a few guys from this site DMed me because I used to post pics of babes with nutt all over them. Those were good times. Haven't been to NL in about 4 years, but when I saw it popping up in all the forums, I knew the writing was on the wall. 4 years ago I noticed it becoming a lot more business like. For those that got to experience things like the 2 4 1 specials in the casas back in the day, you got to count your blessings.
NL was my spot about 12 years ago. Even before that I knew dudes that would practically live in there and a few met their GFs there. Back then, I think you could meet a lot more part timers and students trying to make a quick pesohat got to experience things like the 2 4 1 specials in the casas back in the day, you got to ...Many moons ago, Robert (from the Mansion days) and I went for an exploration mission in el Centro. Way before the Map, lol.
A cop we bumped into actually pointed us to a new place that had just opened.
It was called New Life.
Imagine back when being a gringo was something new and exciting for the girls.
I haven't been back in a while tho. I know it serves some guys well, but not my thing anymore since the invasion, even before Covid.
Such is the lot of us casa customers. They have always been hit or miss. It is the nature of the beast and something they all have in common. Something that sets New Life apart in recent years however is its place as the #1 most popular casa among gringos. None that I've visited (and I have been to more than a few) come even slightly close. We regularly see "I'm coming to town, show me around and beers are on me" posts. New Life is the place I reckon it is easy to find wing men.
Today in the morning, the roster of New Life was disappointing, but ten days ago it was very interesting.
Many moons ago, Robert (from the Mansion days) and I went for an exploration mission in el Centro. Way before the Map, lol.
A cop we bumped into actually pointed us to a new place that had just opened.
It was called New Life.
Imagine back when being a gringo was something new and exciting for the girls.
I haven't been back in a while tho. I know it serves some guys well, but not my thing anymore since the invasion, even before Covid.That's a great story. Yeah, I saw a really cute spinner at the gym the other day with a young white guy, couldn't tell if he was from North America or maybe Europe, anyway, I was thinking to myself that back in the day you would have found a pretty slim chica like that in a casa in El Centro. This chica would probably be a 10 to some, flawless skin and trigueña completion. Yeah, you definately don't get that novelty gringo anymore in Medellin. You're talking about in the days when there was still fear about getting kidnapped or robbed coming down from the airport before you reached the city.
Greetings all,
I am ready to go back to Medellin, I haven't been back since before the pandemic, I will arrive on October the 28th, just before Halloween.
I wanted to ask you all, what do you recomend to do on Halloween? I know that Colombians really like to party on Halloween, is there any activities that you recomend to do on Halloween?
NL was my spot about 12 years ago........It would have been about 9 years ago I met this chick in NL, I'm hoping she was 18 (she looked younger). She told me she was from Poblado. She was so tight I could not enter beyond the head of my penis no matter how much I tried all lubed up. I had to give up without release.
Circa 2010 I met, in NL, one of the hottest (if not the hottest) chica I ever banged. It is to this day one of my greatest regrets that I did not take her contact as she was never to be seen again.
My short trip report from last month in Medellin.
First night I went to Fase Dos. There must have been about 20 ladies to choose from, all types.
I found a lady, completely my type (petite and wide hips).
She was amazing and treated me wonderfully.
The rooms here are five star. Mirrors on the ceiling.
Next day I went to New Life. Not my kind of place for the girls. I waited 45 mins and left.
Next day I went to Energy Spa. Totally also my place.
I connected with a lady and the following day I was back and connected with another lady.
The next night I went to La Isla.
It seemed fancier than Fase Dos but at 600 K while Fase Dos was 440 K.
Girls didn't seem as nice though.
Some friends took ladies into the rooms.
They said Fase Dos rooms are much nicer.
I didn't do anything at La Isla, don't think I'll be back.
It seemed more pretentious.
I also passed by Parque Lleras.
It was pouring rain and still lots of girls and the girls did seem very pretty.
I didn't take any action as I didn't want to take anyone back home.
So that's my report. Fase Dos and Energy Spa were my favorites.
Next time I do want to visit Loutron and Purple Elixir.
If anyone has any recent reports from either of these please share.
I'm giving back after reading lots of reports from you guys.
I hope you found this report helpful.
Saludos.
There are some cute girls hanging in doorways in Centro but I'm scared to go up the stairs with any of them I was thinking about booking a room for a few days at Nutibara Hotel and inviting them to come to my hotel where there will not be thugs waiting to rob me. Any thoughts on this plan? Will the hotel let them in? Will some of the girls come if I agree to pay more? I've been offered 80 for 30 min – was considering offering 150 for one hour.
There are some cute girls hanging in doorways in Centro but I'm scared to go up the stairs with any of them I was thinking about booking a room for a few days at Nutibara Hotel and inviting them to come to my hotel where there will not be thugs waiting to rob me. Any thoughts on this plan? Will the hotel let them in? Will some of the girls come if I agree to pay more? I've been offered 80 for 30 min was considering offering 150 for one hour.On past trips, I've used the short-term hotels the girls had access to without issues. I never felt unsafe as the place is very crowded and police checking ids during the daytime, my main concern was more about cleanliness, crampy, and felt rushed. The Centro girls can be a hit or miss; but you can also find a gem there, and if you do, taking them to Nutibara is a better choice, that's exactly what I intend to do during my next trip there in two weeks.
MongerHunger
06-30-25, 22:33
There are some cute girls hanging in doorways in Centro but I'm scared to go up the stairs with any of them I was thinking about booking a room for a few days at Nutibara Hotel and inviting them to come to my hotel where there will not be thugs waiting to rob me. Any thoughts on this plan? Will the hotel let them in? Will some of the girls come if I agree to pay more? I've been offered 80 for 30 min was considering offering 150 for one hour.I never had a problem a problem going arriba with a chica in Centro. I've stay in Nutibara before and only let chicas in during the day at no charge. In reference to paying a Street Girl 150 K, I would rather go to New Life which is only a short walk away and pick a chica there. I feel that it will be better service at a better rate. Less than 150 K / HR.
Mr Enternational
06-30-25, 22:41
There are some cute girls hanging in doorways in Centro but I'm scared to go up the stairs with any of them Why are you scared to go upstairs with them? I have never seen anything scary in those rooms.
It would have been about 9 years ago I met this chick in NL, I'm hoping she was 18 (she looked younger). She told me she was from Poblado. She was so tight I could not enter beyond the head of my penis no matter how much I tried all lubed up. I had to give up without release.
Circa 2010 I met, in NL, one of the hottest (if not the hottest) chica I ever banged. It is to this day one of my greatest regrets that I did not take her contact as she was never to be seen again.I can relate. I had some joints that you can't even find anymore. Ones that took nutt in their mouth and took whatever you gave as a propina. Or ones that had you shaking your head like WTF is this sex goddess doing here taking pipe for $13 USD. If I knew things would be like they are now, I would have gotten everyone's number for sure. Life moves on.
Medellin. June 2024.
Night #1 - Tuesday night. Rained buckets through about midnight - 1 AM.
Went to Lleras Town to get some food, scope out the girls waiting out the rain under the little kiosks near the park, invited one up, bought her some fries and a drink, seriously thought about banging her, but she wanted $500 k and wouldn't budge. I thanked her for her time and went downstairs after the rain stopped just around 1 AM.
Chica 1 - Esmeralda or Esperanza, I think, not sure - $200 k. All raw fucking.
Finally checked into my "chica Airbnb" - a tiny unit specifically to take chicas to from LLeras around 1 AM, after I'the forgotten to earlier, and upon exiting the unit saw a pretty girl in a sparkly white dress directly across the street. Bright red lipstick and bangs, I waved her over. She crosses the street and we exchange pleasantries. She said she'the had a terrible night due to the rain and was about to catch a cab home. I told her, no worries, why don't we fix that, but here's the story. I only want raw sex and I want at least an hour and only $200 k pesos. She immediately agrees, we turn around, head upstairs, she takes a quick rinse down shower, comes out and immediately lowers herself onto my erect cock. We go through various positions and she's enthusiastic and generally a good sex talker, which I enjoy. After 15 or so minutes he keeps saying she's thirsty and wants to go get a beer, I keep telling her, "ahorita, ahorita", and finally after 30-35 minutes I'm also thirsty and give in to going for a beer. She gets dressed, I give her the $200 k and we walk back down to Lleras to get a beer and her a Smirnoff at the corner place Licorexpress Food & Drink, just 2 doors downhill from Gusto. We drink about half our drinks and she says, "Hey, I'm going to get some chicle from this vendor, I'll be right back. " I say ok, watch her yell to the vendor and she goes to get her gum. I see them chit-chat, the woman gives her the gum, my girl gives her a couple of pesos and next thing I know - "poof" she's gone. Never came back for her Smirnoff, never saw her again over the next 4 nights. Never got her WhatsApp, so I couldn't message her to ask WTF? Weird, but ok. On to the next.
Pay for our drinks and go for a walk to scope the talent at now basically 2 AM.
Chica 2 - no name, never got one - $200 k. All raw fucking.
Weirdly, lots of girls still out at this point, I spot another one in a white dress, but this time, longer brownish blonde hair, cute smile and I make my pitch, same thing. Raw fucking, $200 k at least an hour. She says she's down, we walk the 2 blocks to the apartment over the motorcycle shop on 10 A and the sex was great. She's nicely wet, stays wet, and is an excellent soft moaner. Now about 45 minutes in, she kinda realizes she's been letting me pound her with no condom and just decides that she's done. Uh, ok. All good. She starts getting dressed, then grabs my hand and has me finger bang her from behind, still wet as fuck. I'm like, why don't we keep going and she says, "No, I have to go". Then I keep tongue kissing her, fingering her, and she's still just completely wet. Finally just just pulls her dress up and walks out. I follow her out to the street and she gives me a quick kiss and is gone. Another one I never saw again over the next 3-4 nights in MDE.
Ok, that's odd. Never had 2 girls vanish in an entire trip, much less on the same night!
Because it's night 1, I'm awake and horny and would like to bust a nut, I decide to give one more shot to see what's out on Calle 10 now that the cops have decided to use their stupid siren and clear everyone out of Lleras, so the only place left is 10.
Chica 3 - Marilyn, I think - $350 k including $50 k for taxi. All raw fucking - 2 nuts busted inside.
This girl was standing on Calle 10 in front of one of the corner Farmacias, tight white one piece, hair wrap, and slightly older than the other 2, probably 29-30 vs. 23-25 for the first 2. She's also got a very small cesarean scar from her kid, nothing terrible and I didn't mind it at all.
Gave her my pitch, she agrees, says she'll stay all night for $300 k. I say, yeah, that's a deal. Head back to the moto apartment, we both take a quick shower, and we got to town. This girl loves to be pounded too. 3rd fairly enthusiastic one of the night, but this one also likes to take breaks from fucking and give me a nice deep throat, gagging and all. Excellent stuff. Finally she says, "Look, pound me from behind and give me la lethe adentro". Jesus, alright. You don't have to tell me twice. She's got a spectacular ass and I'm just ramming her pussy "en cuatro" she's moaning like crazy, reaching around behind her to pull me harder, and I finally bust a nut inside her. It was very nice. We rest for a bit, take a quick shower and she says, "vamos a dormir". Alright! We sleep from probably 4-8 AM, give or take. And I wake up, with a hard on of course. She just giggles, strokes it nicely and I play with her pussy. This time I hit her from the side a little, while fingering her clit, and she's groping her very nice tits, pulling on her nipples. We're making out a bit, kinda difficult from that angle, but all good. She starts pulling me harder into her and I bust nut number 2 inside her! Such a nice experience, really enjoyable! We are both out of breath, panting, so we take a short nap on the bed and wake up a little after 9:30 or so. She showers again, I wash up, and we head downstairs. I walk with her to the bottom of the hill by Carulla where she flags a cab, I give her a $50 k note for it, and off she goes. Got her WhatsApp because she said if I let her come back that night, she'the only charge me $300 k and then we could spend each of the next 3 nights together, same activities, no additional cost.
Yeah, but I just don't repeat, I told her. Maybe, I'll send a message. Did not repeat with her, but for a 33 year old with a kid, her body was SMOKING, with nice big pointy nipples, firm tummy, nice ass, worth a repeat probably.
So night 1 in the books, fucked 3 girls, all without a condom, busted 2 nuts inside #3 and it was spectacular. Went back to my "sleeping Airbnb", the nice one southwest of La Matriarca in a beautiful new building, took a short nap till about 11:30 AM and went to breakfast / lunch with my friend.
Day / Night #2 - Wednesday daytime. Went for a great meal at Amassita, again, this time a few pastries with meat inside them (there's a joke there, I think) and then the beautiful blackberry cheesecake on a crust of crumbled Oreo! Stupendous.
Was really not feeling that great due to too many Coronas the night before, which I went with because I didn't want to feel badly from drinking too much rum and coke! So much for that plan. Anyway, had a nice dinner later at La Matriarca in Astorga area of El Poblado, got a combo dinner of steak and chicken breast, the little roasted potatoes were fantastic. Meat was a bit cooler than I'the have preferred, but the flavor was top flight.
Took a nap before dinner, so I was ready to go later. Went to Lleras Town again, my buddy brought his big speaker, set it up and was playing his reggaeton music, got the girls and promoter girls shaking their asses, it was great.
After about an hour of drinking and watching the girls, I saw one come by that I recognized from my April trip, the one I'the done a trio with her and her friend. This time she's with a different friend and I can already tell by the dirty twinkle in her eye, she's thinking of a repeat and hell yes, so am I!! Especially if her cute skinny Venezuelan friend is going to be as freaky as she is!! We buy them drinks and food, the dirty one asks if she can get some money to run down the street and buy Tussi, I tell her sure, give her $100 k note, she comes back with her little baggie and gives me $30 k in change. She even took a taxi to go get it. At that point, her friend goes and buys some wet wipes, comes back, we all get some Coronas as well and head to my "fuck Airbnb" above the motorcycle shop on Calle 10 A and then the negotiations begin. The friend is like "BARE? Are you sure, are you clean, etc. ? I show her my test results, her friend says, Yeah, I fuck him raw and it's fine, let's do it marica. So the friend says yes after 2-3 minutes of discussion, they both take a hit or 3 of Tussi, and we're off and running. 3+ hours of me fucking the dark skinny one raw for 15 or so minutes, then 15 minutes with the skinny white skinned Vennie, then back and forth and back and forth till almost 3:30 AM. At that point, the darker skinned one says, "dame la leche adentro!" I'm ready and so I give her a good load. Another busted nut inside a cute Colombiana. Life cannot get better!! $500 k each for the 3+ hours. All good by me. Repeated with both of them on Friday evening late for only $300 k each for a slightly less amount of time.
Wednesday night, SUPER solid.
Thursday day and night. Was going to be a big fat 0, but ended up with Janet? At 5 AM or so.
Was out late eating with my friends, having some food, enjoying ourselves. We were all dead tired from the prior night, so we took a nap and then we hit Lleras to walk around, had some snacks, some drinks, and just couldn't make up our minds on which, if any, girls to take back. After sleeping really late, and wandering around late, my friends ran into some chicas that wanted to get some chicken from the Pollos Al Carbon on Calle 10 at probably 4 AM. While inside, an older afro-Colombiana says, "soooo. My first name. Come and talk to me". I was like, How the hell does she know my name? Apparently she was listening to me talking with my friends earlier in the evening and made a note of my first name. Crazy.
Anyway, her body is FUCKING STUPID hot, like seriously what a BBL would be, but natural. Her ass was incredible. She asks if she can come home with me, it's about 5:45 AM at this point, and I'm like, yeah, I have to see what her ass is like outside of those pants. It feels like pure perfection and I just have to know. She comes over, helps herself to the bag of chips that our hosts left out for us, and then goes and takes a quick shower. Gets in the bed and I join her. We make out for a while, then she gets on top and starts grinding her pussy on top of my bare dick. After a few minutes she is just soaking wet, a true slip and slide, and so I tell her, just put it in. She's like, "NOOOOO", but then does it anyway. Another raw fuck, I love it. Goddamn, life is good. We go through several positions, but she, like my little stripper friends here in my home town, likes lying flat on the bed, face down, legs together, with me on top of her pounding away at her wet ass pussy, to quote the song. A variation though was that she started squeezing her butt cheeks together, which gave me tremendous friction on the sides of my dick, as well as all other sides, so yeah, didn't last very long like that. I tell her I'm about to bust inside her, and she says, "Dale pues", do it then. Ok, done. Another nut busted inside a pretty colombiana. Jesus, this trip just continues to be spectacular. We fall asleep till about 10 AM, when we do a repeat performance and another nut busted inside. At this point, she asks if she can stay all day, but I tell her no, I really need to sleep and then my friends and I have plans for later in the day. So she showers, blow dries her hair and I put her into an Uber home for $40 k. Gave her $330 k as that was literally the last of my cash and she was happy with that. She's since been WhatsApp messaging me that she wants to be my girlfriend when I move there because she really likes my dick. How cute! Unlikely, however!
Friday night. GREAT.
Ate at Teatro Victoria in Provenza, seriously everything was great. Then ran into a girl I was with 2 times on the last trip in April, she was feigning being angry that I hadn't WhatsApp messaged her to let her know I was coming back. Bought her and her 2 friends a couple of drinks and an appetizer, then took Karol to my apartment for a quickie, since she had to get back to her mom's to pick up her boy by midnight. Great session, all covered sadly, but told her I was looking forward to busting a nut in her soon! She said, "Maybe, maybe, I like that idea!
Finished, put her in an Uber to her mom's place, then headed back to Lleras Town, where of course, my 2 sluts from Wednesday showed back up, both giving me all the slutty signals that they were up for a repeat of the prior session, which of course so was I! Had a few other options that were available, but with a sure thing, I stuck with that decision. One of my friends said I had the "ratchet" girls on me! True, true.
Stayed out drinking, giving tequila shots to everyone and anyone who walked by, girls, promoters, nearby location waiters, vendors, seriously anyone and everyone, it was hilarious how many people we got fucked up that night. About 2 AM took the 2 back to my second "fuck Airbnb", next door to Domino's Pizza on 10, strictly a cheap place to take girls nearby Lleras only to fuck. Another 2+ hour session of raw fucking, with a giant nut busted in the dark skinned one, just like the last time. Only gave them $300 k each this time, since it wasn't as long and since I bought them food, wet wipes and a 6 pack of Coronas.
As I'm leaving the fuck place, I run into Luisa at 6 AM. I tell her, look, you're super cute, have a smoking body and I'm sorry you haven't had any customers tonight (unlikely, but possible as there's SO MUCH COMPETITION in terms of numbers of girls and far fewer numbers of guys), and I just nutted, so I probably couldn't get anything good out of it. She's like, "Come on, let me try to get you hard and see what you can do!" I tell her, look, I only have $200 k pesos, like seriously zero more. She says, fine, vamos.
She gave it her best effort, but after 30 minutes of fucking, I could not nut, so she said she wanted to sit on my face. I said, let me smell it and we'll see. Smelled like sweet candy. Sure thing, let's go. Ate her out for probably 15 minutes till she starts shaking like crazy, I thought she was acting, which was fine, I was dead tired and just wanted to be done. While she tried to get control over herself on the bed, I get up and go to the bathroom at which point I see a giant "girl nut" hanging from my beard. Seriously it was HUGE. I thought, OK, maybe she wasn't faking it. Come back out and she's still on the bed quivering. She says she feels like she should pay me. I held my hand out and said, "Dale pues!" We both laughed, went back to Calle 10 and I walked home to sleep.
Saturday night we were hoping for a repeat, but my friend got an offer to go dancing with one of the promoter girls in Laureles and it rained buckets, so our other friend and I sat out for a bit, after which Karol from the prior night showed up and said, "Hey, my mom is watching my kid all night, I can stay with you till the morning!" Awesome. We finish our food, had a few drinks, then headed back to my place. She showers, goddamn, what a pretty naked ass while she's bent over the sink brushing her teeth! She comes back to the bed, and does what the pretty black one did early Thursday AM. Starts grinding her pussy on my bare dick, pausing every now and then to open her lips a bit more. After a few minutes, she was gushing on my dick and begging me to put the condom on. I said, No, remember last night, you said, "maybe" on the leche adentro. She's like, "noooooo, please, I just want your dick NOW!" I didn't even reply, just flexed it up a little aimed it right at her pussy and it popped right in. She's moaning like crazy, pussy juice all over my dick and groin, finally shaking and saying, "me vengo, me vengo" and then I say, "yo tambien". Siiiiiii, she says and bam, another nut busted inside another colombiana. At this point we got to cleanup in the bathroom and she shows me her birth control in her arm. I tell her between that and my vasectomy, we're good. She says, we'll see in 9 months! And laughs that if she ends up pregnant, we'll name the baby Milagro (miracle) or Jesus. Super funny. We snuggle in bed and sleep till almost 8 AM, which was a fine end to an excellent trip. I get up, pack, while she lazed in bed, then she accompanies me downstairs, I send her on her way and I catch my ride to the airport.
All in all, another crazy excellent trip to Medellin. Honestly can't wait to get back again!!
I haven't been to Medellin in a couple of years, but during my last visit, I went to a few places. Mostly casas. I can't recall their names of first two, but remember the locations in Belen.
1. Dg. 75 C #32 E-3.
2. Av. 33 #65 B-1.
3. New Life.
4. Energy Spa.
5. Zandaly.
I think New Life, Energy, Zandaly still exist, but what about the first two casas, and any new ones? Any recent intel on casas would be greatly appreciated!
Why are you scared to go upstairs with them? I have never seen anything scary in those rooms.Thank you. I'm referencing the girls hanging out in front of the stair cases in Centro. I've seen every kind of girl you can imagine. Fat girls, skinny girls, black girls, white girls, young girls (some seem too young), girls with no teeth, girls with no hair. Can you please give me a brief description of what to expect if I go upstairs with one of them? Thanks!
Thank you. I'm referencing the girls hanging out in front of the stair cases in Centro. I've seen every kind of girl you can imagine. Fat girls, skinny girls, black girls, white girls, young girls (some seem too young), girls with no teeth, girls with no hair. Can you please give me a brief description of what to expect if I go upstairs with one of them? Thanks!Downstairs you agree to what you are going to do sexually & how much you are going to pay them.
Upstairs you fuck them, then you pay them!
MongerHunger
07-01-25, 01:40
Can you please give me a brief description of what to expect if I go upstairs with one of them? You're kidding right? Do you read this forum any?
Hi,
First time to Colombia and previously visited Tijuana and Costa Rica. I've been on the Mileroticas website and the girls there all state they have an apartment of their own to enjoy time with them. Is it safe to go to their place or better to have them come to the hotel? I booked the Haven based on some earlier suggestions. Anything to watch out for staying there. Anything else you think I need to be careful of would be greatly appreciated.
Mr Enternational
07-01-25, 04:31
Thank you. I'm referencing the girls hanging out in front of the stair cases in Centro. I've seen every kind of girl you can imagine. Fat girls, skinny girls, black girls, white girls, young girls (some seem too young), girls with no teeth, girls with no hair. Can you please give me a brief description of what to expect if I go upstairs with one of them? Thanks!You can expect to pay them to fuck in the room. What do you assume is there? Seems you are new to fucking hookers, because hookers hanging by the room they will take you in to fuck has been happening all over the world since the beginning of time. Are you expecting a monster or something to be up there?
Hi all,
First time to Colombia and had a few of quick questions. Haven't seen any answers from the numerous pages I've viewed. I was looking at contacting escorts from Mileroticas and I noticed most state they have a private apartment that I can come to. Is it safe to go to their place or have them come to the hotel? It appears them coming to the hotel is priced higher excluding any taxi fares. I am staying at the Haven Hotel per recommendations I read here. Anything I need to be aware of staying here? Also, couple of additional questions:
What is a good tip amount (How much should I agree for taxi fares? (Ball park).
Sorry looked for a wiki but didn't see any for these questions.
Thanks in advance for any recommendations and suggestions.
Nomars777;3011954]Medellin. June 2024.
Brother Nomars, well done my friend, and thank you for the Penthouse forum worthy detailed trip report! This is what the forum used to be more like pre-Covid, with field reports, not the dumb useless clutter chatter about stupid shit that we have to filter through and endure now. Really enjoyed reading your successes and how to do Medellin right. Next time you are back in town shoot me a DM.
I was looking at contacting escorts from Mileroticas and I noticed most state they have a private apartment that I can come to. Is it safe to go to their place or have them come to the hotel?
What is a good tip amount (How much should I agree for taxi fares? (Ball park).The first question has been answered a few times in these forums. As a general rule, it is safe to go to the ladies' apartments. If the address is in Laureles, Belen, Poblado, or Envigado, their apartment should be safe. I wouldn't go to an apartment in Centro or up on the mountainsides from Centro. Poblado and Engigado are on a mountainside, but not close to Centro. I also wouldn't go to Bello.
Be cautious with taxis you hail from the street, especially at night around Parque Lleras. Some drivers will try to cheat you. Make sure they turn the meter on. The meter starts around 6,000. Your best bet is to use an app to summon a ride, either Uber, DiDi, or Cabify. You will see the price before you order the ride. Cabify gives you a price range, the others give you an exact price. Most of the time, I round up to the next 1 or 2,000. Ex. : if it's between 8,000 and 10,000, I'll give them 10 or 11,000. If traffic is heavy and there's a lot of time waiting in traffic, I'll give the driver more. The tip always depends on the courtesy of the driver.
Mr Enternational
07-02-25, 13:47
I was looking at contacting escorts from Mileroticas and I noticed most state they have a private apartment that I can come to. Is it safe to go to their place or have them come to the hotel?When you deal with hookers advertising on a website, there is incall and outcall. Incall is when you go to them. It is usually cheaper because they do not need transportation going to and from. Outcall is when they go to where you tell them you will fuck them. There is nothing unsafe or strange or rare about incall. As a matter of fact, I think I call is more safe than outcall. You hear about guys being drugged when they brought the hooker to where they are staying. You never hear about a guy being drugged when he went to fuck the hooker at her place.
I also like incall because you get to venture around instead of just staying in the same place. For instance yesterday I went for an incall on the other side of town here in Barranquilla. When I finished fucking, I walked around that neighborhood to explore and found some damn good Chinese food.
The first question has been answered a few times in these forums. As a general rule, it is safe to go to the ladies' apartments. If the address is in Laureles, Belen, Poblado, or Envigado, their apartment should be safe. I wouldn't go to an apartment in Centro or up on the mountainsides from Centro. Poblado and Engigado are on a mountainside, but not close to Centro. I also wouldn't go to Bello.
Be cautious with taxis you hail from the street, especially at night around Parque Lleras. Some drivers will try to cheat you. Make sure they turn the meter on. The meter starts around 6,000. Your best bet is to use an app to summon a ride, either Uber, DiDi, or Cabify. You will see the price before you order the ride. Cabify gives you a price range, the others give you an exact price. Most of the time, I round up to the next 1 or 2,000. Ex. : if it's between 8,000 and 10,000, I'll give them 10 or 11,000. If traffic is heavy and there's a lot of time waiting in traffic, I'll give the driver more. The tip always depends on the courtesy of the driver.Thanks for the response. It is much appreciated! What is the typical tip you would give either an escort or casa gal?
When you deal with hookers advertising on a website, there is incall and outcall. Incall is when you go to them. It is usually cheaper because they do not need transportation going to and from. Outcall is when they go to where you tell them you will fuck them. There is nothing unsafe or strange or rare about incall. As a matter of fact, I think I call is more safe than outcall. You hear about guys being drugged when they brought the hooker to where they are staying. You never hear about a guy being drugged when he went to fuck the hooker at her place.
I also like incall because you get to venture around instead of just staying in the same place. For instance yesterday I went for an incall on the other side of town here in Barranquilla. When I finished fucking, I walked around that neighborhood to explore and found some damn good Chinese food.Thanks! Appreciate it.
MongerFriend
07-03-25, 05:55
Finally checked into my "chica Airbnb" - a tiny unit specifically to take chicas to from LLeras around 1 AM, her on her way and I catch my ride to the airport.
First of all, great post! You should get an award for erotic literature!
How did you manage to do the Airbnb?
I thought Airbnb's are strictly no sex work. They even make you agree to this explicitly.
And every single Airbnb house I have rented with made me give passport details of all people. They discourage guests and are verbose about it to various degrees. Some even say female guests not allowed. And that their doorman still be watching.
(I know there is a thread for hotels in Medellin but I am not sure how to cross post to that thread.).
Mr Enternational
07-03-25, 06:32
Thanks for the response. It is much appreciated! What is the typical tip you would give either an escort or casa gal?Zero. You must be American. Working out a price for something then deciding to pay extra.
To tip or not to tip.
https://youtu.be/jx-peEu4QuA?si=L767PlUp66XO5XOA
Michael Madsen RIP.
To tip or not to tip.
https://youtu.be/jx-peEu4QuA?si=L767PlUp66XO5XOA
Michael Madsen RIP.To tip or not to tip, that is the Questner.
When you deal with hookers advertising on a website, there is incall and outcall. Incall is when you go to them. It is usually cheaper because they do not need transportation going to and from..... There is nothing unsafe or strange or rare about incall. As a matter of fact, I think I call is more safe than outcall. You hear about guys being drugged when they brought the hooker to where they are staying. You never hear about a guy being drugged when he went to fuck the hooker at her place......Good points. Reminds me of the some Tarintino movies. Some of these girls aren't too bright though, it would be a hilarious and morbid comeuppance for a prepago to drug a guy at her place and then have to deal with his body LOL.
Thanks for the response. It is much appreciated! What is the typical tip you would give either an escort or casa gal?If I go to an outcall place I rarely tip as they are essentially their own boss and don't need to pay the house. If I go to a casa or club I may tip 0-30% depending on performance, if the girl does something special, I get her number, or may want to see her again outside. Similar for online girls. I no longer do street girls.
NL was my spot about 12 years ago. Even before that I knew dudes that would practically live in there and a few met their GFs there. Back then, I think you could meet a lot more part timers and students trying to make a quick peso. I remember when taking pics wasn't a big deal and a few guys from this site DMed me because I used to post pics of babes with nutt all over them. Those were good times. Haven't been to NL in about 4 years, but when I saw it popping up in all the forums, I knew the writing was on the wall. 4 years ago I noticed it becoming a lot more business like. For those that got to experience things like the 2 4 1 specials in the casas back in the day, you got to count your blessings.My timing is similar. The last time was probably 2019, just after the last expansion. And then they also started to go overboard with the hygiene and swabs (maybe not all of the girls, but at least the last few I had). Nothing is worse for ones libido than a burning dick. Prior to that it could be very good, particularly on the 'pay days' as many part time girls would come in.
Degenerate24
07-04-25, 23:38
I never got why the girls charge more when we get their numbers from a Casa or a stripclub like la Isla to do an outcall service. The rates are like 3-5 x more than incall / inhouse.
I also don't get why theyd rather go home entry handed at Lleras than lowering the rates.
I never got why the girls charge more when we get their numbers from a Casa or a stripclub like la Isla to do an outcall service. The rates are like 3-5 x more than incall / inhouse.
I also don't get why theyd rather go home entry handed at Lleras than lowering the rates.I never try to apply logic to how a hooker thinks, but perhaps they have to make special plans with baby sitters, pay transportation, feel like they are providing more service or think because you have money to take them out of the casa that you're a big spender. As far as Lleras, If they can find one sucker to overpay it is less work, wear and tear and risks for them.
I never got why the girls charge more when we get their numbers from a Casa or a stripclub like la Isla to do an outcall service. The rates are like 3-5 x more than incall / inhouse.
I also don't get why theyd rather go home entry handed at Lleras than lowering the rates.The casas are like going to any job, working your shift, and going home. They are volume businesses and safe for the girl, towels, bedding, place to do the deed, all provided in the fee they pay the house, and in a good day they do all right.
Outcall is sporadic, and they know the rates that outcall services run at. So why would they charge less. Plus time, transportation, etc. That they don't worry about working in a casa.
And as far as street workers, say in Lleras. Who says they go home empty handed? They are not going to lower rates readily, they know where that goes, and there are often informal understandings between girls as well. And, not least, they don't want a smaller amount that badly sometimes, as there are many many prospective clients they would just as soon not have to fuck.
I never got why the girls charge more when we get their numbers from a Casa or a stripclub like la Isla to do an outcall service. The rates are like 3-5 x more than incall / inhouse.
I also don't get why theyd rather go home entry handed at Lleras than lowering the rates.You will find that line of economic reasoning all over LatAm, in many types of businesses. Business is bad so we must raise prices. Desperation meets poor education.
Mr Enternational
07-05-25, 17:13
The casas are like going to any job, working your shift, and going home. They are volume businesses and safe for the girl, towels, bedding, place to do the deed, all provided in the fee they pay the house, and in a good day they do all right.
Outcall is sporadic, and they know the rates that outcall services run at. So why would they charge less. Plus time, transportation, etc. That they don't worry about working in a casa.Well if I see an Acme Painting Service truck going down the street and I ask the guy driving it to come over and do a side freelance job for me, I do not expect to be paying more than if I had just called Acme direct. The entire point of cutting out the middle man is so the buyer can pay less and the worker can make more than they would if they got paid being an employee of Acme. If Acme is licensed and bonded and charges $100, I do not expect the employee to be charging $300 on a freelance basis. What consumer would go for that bullshit?
As Orgasmico said, that is hooker that do not understand shit about business logic. Pair that with some horny dude that never gets pussy and has a pocket full of money and there is a wtf situation for a normal thinking person.
The casas are like going to any job, working your shift, and going home. They are volume businesses and safe for the girl, towels, bedding, place to do the deed, all provided in the fee they pay the house, and in a good day they do all right.
Outcall is sporadic, and they know the rates that outcall services run at. So why would they charge less. Plus time, transportation, etc. That they don't worry about working in a casa.
And as far as street workers, say in Lleras. Who says they go home empty handed? They are not going to lower rates readily, they know where that goes, and there are often informal understandings between girls as well. And, not least, they don't want a smaller amount that badly sometimes, as there are many many prospective clients they would just as soon not have to fuck.At NL, each girl makes about 500 k mil or more on an average per a day in a week including tips based on my observation and talking to mamasan. By evening, the card they carry is totally full of how many clients they serviced for that day.
You will find that line of economic reasoning all over LatAm, in many types of businesses. Business is bad so we must raise prices. Desperation meets poor education.I've noticed that in restaurants and bars. They can do it once to me, then I find a different place to spend my money.
FlowState985
07-06-25, 12:52
You will find that line of economic reasoning all over LatAm, in many types of businesses. Business is bad so we must raise prices. Desperation meets poor education.LOL this, I found out that they like to raise prices when business is bad, it's like they are trying to recovery the lost profits.
As Orgasmico said, that is hooker that do not understand shit about business logic. Pair that with some horny dude that never gets pussy and has a pocket full of money and there is a wtf situation for a normal thinking person.The price is often location dependent. When they work in Lleras, they charge Lleras price. It's fairly obvious in Brazil as there are more freelancer clubs. A girl who charges 200 in casa, but she will charge 1000 in expensive club. The same girl would charge 500 when they go to a cheaper club. They would charge 400 for outcall which is according to the market.
a stripclub like la Isla to do an outcall service. The rates are like 3-5 x more than incall / inhouse.
I think the OP exaggerated the price increase amount. I think that is not the norm. Have you done a calculation how much it would cost for an outcall for a La Isla girl?
You will find that line of economic reasoning all over LatAm, in many types of businesses. Business is bad so we must raise prices. Desperation meets poor education.Westerners tend to say that for almost every country in Asia and Latin America that they visit but it is not generally true. It is usually based on a few places of businesses and the particular situation of the business is unknown. It is generally asserted for the Westerner to feel superior as if he is so much smarter than the citizens in Asia or Latin America. But it is true that some businesses will act in that manner and Western businesses do the same time. In fact, I personally experienced this recently with a business in Medellin run by a Westerner. Business was slow and the business wasn't making a profit so his solution was to raise prices and he is from the United States. Now it is not a crazy notion because in the short term, if you don't lose customers, you will make more money. On the other hand, if you lower prices and your customer base does not increase, you will lose even more money. If you do nothing, then your situation remains the same and you are still losing money.
That being said, the better approach would be to change things about your business outside of pricing. Increasing prices without making improvements in the business is generally not a winning proposition but there is no market research that businesses in Latin America or Asia have adopted this business practice as whole. Rather, it is just anonymous posters saying this based on personal experiences at a few bars or based on the behavior of a few prostitutes.
GringoLoko
07-06-25, 17:58
Planning on a strip club romp next week. La Isla, Fase 2, Luna, Boom boom? Or some other one I see business cards for all the time.
Any info on these strip clubs?
I never got why the girls charge more when we get their numbers from a Casa or a stripclub like la Isla to do an outcall service. The rates are like 3-5 x more than incall / inhouse.
I also don't get why theyd rather go home entry handed at Lleras than lowering the rates.I think more like 2-3 x, but it's all about volume and convenience. If the girl is going to your place then that's time that she can't service multiple customers at her regular employer. She also takes on more risk by going with you and may need to plan (babysitter, car, etc.).
In regards to lowering rates, they do of course lower, but only to a certain threshold. It's classic bad business to compete solely on price. That's a race to the bottom. Most of the girls do better than you think, and even if they don't get a guy one night, they can get another for 'their price' later in the week to make up for it. If you know a girl for a bit, or are a regular customer I find that they will lower rates a decent amount.
Medellin. June 2024.
Chica 1 - Esmeralda or Esperanza, I think, not sure - $200 k. All raw fucking....
Chica 2 - no name, never got one - $200 k. All raw fucking.
Chica 3 - Marilyn, I think - $350 k including $50 k for taxi. All raw fucking - 2 nuts busted inside.
So night 1 in the books, fucked 3 girls, all without a condom, busted 2 nuts inside #3 and it was spectacular.....
Vennie, then back and forth and back and forth till almost 3:30 AM.....Another busted nut inside a cute Colombiana. Life cannot get better!!
.... After a few minutes she is just soaking wet, a true slip and slide, and so I tell her, just put it in..... Another raw fuck, I love it. Goddamn, life is good.
As I'm leaving the fuck place, I run into Luisa at 6 AM.... She gave it her best effort, but after 30 minutes of fucking, I could not nut, so she said she wanted to sit on my face. I said, let me smell it and we'll see. Smelled like sweet candy.... Ate her out for probably 15 minutes till she starts shaking like crazy ..... go to the bathroom at which point I see a giant "girl nut" hanging from my beard. Seriously it was HUGE....
All in all, another crazy excellent trip to Medellin. Honestly can't wait to get back again!!Young man, if this is all true I suggest you get yourself tested and probably buy some Valtrex (valacyclovir in CO). Sex education and hygiene for the Colombia barrio girls is next to nil. The prevalence of HIV is very low, but the girls carry plenty of other diseases, particularly if not in a casa and tested. The older guys do raw, but generally take Prep and quite a few precautions. If you keep rolling like this you're going to catch some crazy STD and some of them are not curable. ... Ok off of my soap box LOL.
Planning on a strip club romp next week. La Isla, Fase 2, Luna, Boom boom? Or some other one I see business cards for all the time.
Any info on these strip clubs?There is a search function in the upper right side of the forum page. Try there first. Also look at reports of distinction.
Westerners tend to say that for almost every country in Asia and Latin America that they visit Well, this westerner has spent about fifteen years LIVING in Latin American countries, six of them, and has a master's in business and a minor in economics, and stands by his statement.
FlappyGilmore0
07-06-25, 21:12
Young man, if this is all true I suggest you get yourself tested and probably buy some Valtrex (valacyclovir in CO). Sex education and hygiene for the Colombia barrio girls is next to nil. The prevalence of HIV is very low, but the girls carry plenty of other diseases, particularly if not in a casa and tested. The older guys do raw, but generally take Prep and quite a few precautions. If you keep rolling like this you're going to catch some crazy STD and some of them are not curable. ... Ok off of my soap box LOL.Intentionally raw dogging multiple working girls deserves some type of darwin award. Seriously guys.
Intentionally raw dogging multiple working girls deserves some type of darwin award. Seriously guys.When I read reports like that, I just assume the guy has Herpes and Warts and doesn't give a shit.
In the odd chance that he doesn't have them, he will soon.
Degenerate24
07-07-25, 05:06
The price is often location dependent. When they work in Lleras, they charge Lleras price. It's fairly obvious in Brazil as there are more freelancer clubs. A girl who charges 200 in casa, but she will charge 1000 in expensive club. The same girl would charge 500 when they go to a cheaper club. They would charge 400 for outcall which is according to the market.
I think the OP exaggerated the price increase amount. I think that is not the norm. Have you done a calculation how much it would cost for an outcall for a La Isla girl?Yeah, it is more like 2 x. I asked how much for an outcall service to my room, she said 1 M vs 600 k. It is more like 1. 5 X-2 X. Mind you I asked girl that was a 9. That place has tons of 8 and 9's.
Ps
I was consistently getting quoted $150 for girls that looked like 8s in Lleras, which I declined.
Degenerate24
07-07-25, 05:14
Planning on a strip club romp next week. La Isla, Fase 2, Luna, Boom boom? Or some other one I see business cards for all the time.
Any info on these strip clubs?I only went to Luna lunera and La isla. I prefer la isla and it is expensive. 50 for cover charge, you must consume 40 k at the bar, or a 600 k+ bottle service for a table. The room+service is 600 k for 40 minutes.
Luna lunera is around $80 according to the guy I talked to while there, I just went for a beer. The girls are more like 7-8's but more friendly vs la Isla.
P.S.
I saw on the night I was there at the tabel adjacent to me; JaX slayher and this other white dude having fun, the white dude and another blonde dude took a porn star looking chick that is full on plastic to the private area. I just know that the dudes go out first after like 40 minutes; the girl came out like 1. 5 hour later and looked super pissed and was telling something to the other girls around the table.
Degenerate24
07-07-25, 05:17
Intentionally raw dogging multiple working girls deserves some type of darwin award. Seriously guys.One of the bar promoters (non-working) that I spoke to when the bar closed. She said that CTG had high rate (she was a CTG native, and I just had a random chat with her), and MDE is close second with high rates of STD, and got to be careful.
Manizales911
07-07-25, 14:50
Intentionally raw dogging multiple working girls deserves some type of darwin award. Seriously guys.I've been raw dogging pros, semi-pros and non pros in multiple countries for over 20 years, I get tested twice a year for everything and have yet to contract anything. I question the level of risk based on my track record. My close friend that lives in Sosua is a big time clean freak and somewhat of a germaphobe and religiously wraps things up, makes the girls shower and clean their pussy with that feminine cleanser they sell in Playero and he recently contracted herpes so I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.
Has anyone stayed in the Belen area? It seems like a safer and more peaceful part of the city. I initially booked at the Nutibara Hotel in El Centro, but after reading multiple recent reports of people getting robbed of their cell phones even in broad daylight, I decided to rebook my hotel near LOS Molinos shopping center in Belen. I might still visit El Centro during the day to check out the scene, but I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable staying there especially since it gets quite sketchy after dark.
A couple of years ago I visited a few casas and strip clubs there in Belen (Purple Elixir, Eros Spa, 25-29 Girls) and some nameless ones in houses / apartments, not sure if they still do exist. Can anyone share any recent intel in this area?
AmorPorFavor
07-07-25, 18:26
When I read reports like that, I just assume the guy has Herpes and Warts and doesn't give a shit.
In the odd chance that he doesn't have them, he will soon.When I read one like that I wonder what the girls look like who are raw dogging for 200 off the street. I am in MDE right now and I know the rates and how ugly some of them are. This is my 13th trip here and I only do hot girls off FB and insta. Lots of BBFS and have never caught anything.
Has anyone stayed in the Belen area? It seems like a safer and more peaceful part of the city. I initially booked at the Nutibara Hotel in El Centro, but after reading multiple recent reports of people getting robbed of their cell phones even in broad daylight, I decided to rebook my hotel near LOS Molinos shopping center in Belen. I might still visit El Centro during the day to check out the scene, but I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable staying there especially since it gets quite sketchy after dark.
A couple of years ago I visited a few casas and strip clubs there in Belen (Purple Elixir, Eros Spa, 25-29 Girls) and some nameless ones in houses / apartments, not sure if they still do exist. Can anyone share any recent intel in this area?Belen is fine and safe. Close enough to Poblado, Centro, Laureles. You should be fine just make sure you're at a Airbnb or hotel bringing girls isn't an issue.
Mr Enternational
07-07-25, 20:03
I've been raw dogging pros, semi-pros and non pros in multiple countries for over 20 years, I get tested twice a year for everything and have yet to contract anything. I question the level of risk based on my track record. My close friend that lives in Sosua is a big time clean freak and somewhat of a germaphobe and religiously wraps things up, makes the girls shower and clean their pussy with that feminine cleanser they sell in Playero and he recently contracted herpes so I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.Well it was the same thing with covid. I was hanging around in downtown Medellin and Santa Fe in Bogota without vaccination the first. Never got sick. Meanwhile mfs with 3 jabs, wearing a mask, and washing their hands all the time caught covid twice. May be a case of god protecting fools and Murphy's Law having its way with the Nervous Nancys.
FatOldGringo
07-07-25, 20:41
I live in Sabaneta my girlfriend wants to get a little freaky and have two or three guys. I just asked you between 7 and 9 in and relatively good looking and between 30 and 50 years old. Let me know if anybody's here this week and is interested we'll be doing it sometime between Whursday and next Monday.
Also I've lived here 6 years I'm willing to most of the scenes so if you have any questions I'll be glad to help.
I've been raw dogging pros, semi-pros and non pros in multiple countries for over 20 years, I get tested twice a year for everything and have yet to contract anything. I question the level of risk based on my track record. My close friend that lives in Sosua is a big time clean freak and somewhat of a germaphobe and religiously wraps things up, makes the girls shower and clean their pussy with that feminine cleanser they sell in Playero and he recently contracted herpes so I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.As long as you have no open cuts on Mr. Wiener, you should be fine. Just like shaking a hand. The women are the ones who have to be concerned because the men squirt into them. I always tell them I will pull out, but many of the women do not believe me and I say "next. ".
60% of the worlds population admit to having some herpes. The other 40% are liars. Its as common as a cold sore and lasts a couple days.
I've been raw dogging pros, semi-pros and non pros in multiple countries for over 20 years, I get tested twice a year for everything and have yet to contract anything. I question the level of risk based on my track record. My close friend that lives in Sosua is a big time clean freak and somewhat of a germaphobe and religiously wraps things up, makes the girls shower and clean their pussy with that feminine cleanser they sell in Playero and he recently contracted herpes so I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.Definitely kudos to you for getting tested regularly. Since I'm a bit more careful I do less often. Annually and when I have symptoms. Thankfully 100% clean to date.
The above noted, if you look at the statistics, we've been in a pretty fortunate period historically as things relate to STDs. Low rates due to education, 'most' using protection, and readily available preventative medications. Unfortunately this has given people a false sense of confidence and numbers are increasing, particularly in Africa and Asia. I'm not trying to fear monger as it's the truth.
Also, it's worth noting that female to male transmission of things like HIV is pretty darn hard. All in all, I was most taken aback when the OP mentioned that he had a 150 k street walker sit on his face for 15 minutes. That's just asking for Herpes and a whole host of things LOL.
Be careful out there gents!
I used to take small gifts. Lingerie earbud perfumes small things. I no longer do, because I have concluded it makes no difference. Most dudes doing it do it out of a desire to feel good about helping someone. It doesn't work that way with these women.For the most part I have as well. Although the vain part of me likes to think that the girl will remember me more for the 'thoughtful gesture,' the truth is that 90% would be happier and remember you more if you just tipped them the amount that you spent on the gift.
Also, it's worth noting that female to male transmission of things like HIV is pretty darn hard.It's difficult to transmit HIV through vaginal intercourse. It's not difficult if a man goes raw in a woman's butt. There was an egomaniac who posted on here not too long ago who boasted about going raw in the butt of almost every woman he was with. I don't want to be with any woman he's been with. Luckily, almost all the pictures he posted were of chicas so ugly I would reject them on appearance.
Nil Admirari
07-08-25, 13:55
Definitely kudos to you for getting tested regularly. Since I'm a bit more careful I do less often. Annually and when I have symptoms. Thankfully 100% clean to date.
............Also, it's worth noting that female to male transmission of things like HIV is pretty darn hard. All in all, I was most taken aback when the OP mentioned that he had a 150 k street walker sit on his face for 15 minutes. That's just asking for Herpes and a whole host of things LOL.Be careful out there gents!
On the subject of fucking raw, this excerpt from a somewhat self-congratulatory, but nonetheless quite entertaining and informative, 2024 Medellin trip report billed by one poster as the GOAT of all Reports of Distinction.
His preventative mode of operation--a high-maintenance routine of daily meds (which clearly comes without the Mayo Clinic's full seal of approval):
" I know this is an odd thing. But I'm telling you this: There are some meds that I just won't travel without:
Sunflower Lecithin. This stuff comes in HUGE horse pills, and taste disgusting. But when paired with 25 MG of Zinc you will literally boost your cum production 5 x. I like to be able to paint a girls face proper. The more cum you make, the better your orgasm. Plain and simple.
PrEP. This is a prescription medication that is an ANTI-HIV / blocker. If you are barebacking girls in high volume (or any volume), I strongly recommend it.
DoxyCycline. This stuff in combination with PrEP is known to block almost all other STDs / STIS.
HPV vaccine. If you don't have this (its a series of 3 vaccines- fucking get it. Makes you immune to HPV.
The goal here is to fuck as much raw as possible and protect yourself from getting sick. I'm also fixed so I don't worry about babies, but guys, these girls are poor as it is, if you make a baby, take care of it. If you don't. You're a trash terrible person and I hope you burn in hell. Babies are Gods gift to this earth. ".
* Make sure you take PREP and cycle antibiotics. Girls will say they are clean, but the 5 guys they fucked before might have been lying. I have BBed over 800 girls in MDE and still clean to this day. Prep+Doxycycline pretty much makes you immune to STDS. (Sure it ruins your liver, but fuck livers). ".
Above posted by YyzTravel, Post #66380, on 4-11-24. Here's link to page 206 of the Medellin thread with the report. A Tolstoy novel in length but worth a read when you have the time. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2907830#post2907830.
The Tall Man
07-08-25, 15:36
So The Tall Man has been in Medellin for 15 years and over this time span have seen the changes, the good and bad, which has been especially dramatic for 5 years now post pandemic.
Over the years I have also spent much time in just about every city and municipality in Colombia, such as Bogota / Buca / Cartagena / Cali / Medellin, Barranquilla / Santa Marta / Riohacha / Quibdo / Pereria / Valledupar / Cucuta / etc. And as for Medellin I know just about every bar, strip club, venue, party zone, bar, casa, massage place, street scene and things have changed so much in the past decade.
Much can be argued about why the changes to our hobby but to sum it up as the cause to the proliferation of Social Media in general, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Only Fans, dating apps, etc.
Any of you guys want to ad your experience as to the cause?
In the meantime I maintain about 4 or 5 in my rotation of mostly Paisas who are demure, fresh, great attitudes, reasonable priced, good hearts and souls, can hold a conversation about life and family, incredible lovemaking in the bedroom so perhaps not only has time changed but I have also.
TTM.
When I read reports like that, I just assume the guy has Herpes and Warts and doesn't give a shit.
In the odd chance that he doesn't have them, he will soon.Any time I read a post where the guy bangs hookers without a condom I just assume he already has HIV and herpes.
Taking antibiotics prophylactically is selfish because it increases the progression of antibiotic resistant germ strains. That's why prescriptions are required in advanced countries. Not something to self-medicate with for preventive purposes. That's not even considering the possibility such people are deluding themselves about the safety it provides. Antibiotics aren't effective against viruses, after all. HIV, HPV, herpes, all viruses. I'm just sayin'.
Logic and reason back up your assumption. It's a sad reminder to take precautions.
Any time I read a post where the guy bangs hookers without a condom I just assume he already has HIV and herpes.
It's true and it is very common practice. All these years later, it still raises my eyebrows because of how little sense it makes.
You will find that line of economic reasoning all over LatAm, in many types of businesses. Business is bad so we must raise prices. Desperation meets poor education.
Any time I read a post where the guy bangs hookers without a condom I just assume he already has HIV and herpes.You assume he has it. LOL. I guess N777 is being selectively picked on.
I would have a blonde, a redhead, and / or a brunette / black hair in my harem that would allow BBFSCIP with all of them and of course allow going back and forth between them.
So The Tall Man has been in Medellin for 15 years and over this time span have seen the changes, the good and bad, which has been especially dramatic for 5 years now post pandemic.
Over the years I have also spent much time in just about every city and municipality in Colombia, such as Bogota / Buca / Cartagena / Cali / Medellin, Barranquilla / Santa Marta / Riohacha / Quibdo / Pereria / Valledupar / Cucuta / etc. And as for Medellin I know just about every bar, strip club, venue, party zone, bar, casa, massage place, street scene and things have changed so much in the past decade.
Very true. I'm curious why Medellin has developed such a notorious reputation for safety issues in recent years, it didn't seem nearly this bad even three years ago. We don't hear nearly as much negative news from other major Colombian cities Bogota, Cali, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Santa Marta.
Is this shift primarily due to rising poverty? Are foreigners increasingly being seen as easy targets, or is there growing resentment toward them for contributing to higher local prices and cost of living, or locals pissed off due to perceptions around how foreigners objectify Medellin women?
DiscoverFL
07-08-25, 22:53
growing resentment toward them for contributing to higher local prices and cost of livingGlobal issue building resentment towards foreign tourists, which increases apathy and anger towards them. See Barcelona, Mexico City, etc.
Mr Enternational
07-09-25, 02:43
Global issue building resentment towards foreign tourists, which increases apathy and anger towards them. See Barcelona, Mexico City, etc.You left out the why.
Very true. I'm curious why Medellin has developed such a notorious reputation for safety issues in recent years, it didn't seem nearly this bad even three years ago. We don't hear nearly as much negative news from other major Colombian cities Bogota, Cali, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Santa Marta.
Is this shift primarily due to rising poverty? Are foreigners increasingly being seen as easy targets, or is there growing resentment toward them for contributing to higher local prices and cost of living, or locals pissed off due to perceptions around how foreigners objectify Medellin women?The people involved with crime have improved their methods, and with plenty of mongers to target they have become a lot more successful in the past 6 years or so. I don't think it is any of those other things, or at least not in any significant way.
In 2015 or 16 there were getting to be a number of incidents of gringos being drugged, but especially in the last few years the numbers have increased. The deaths from scope and other drugs used to rob victims are the "mistakes", but for every death there are probably hundreds that were drugged and did not die, but in many cases were robbed, etc. Anyway, I think it is more just a specific part of the crime scene that has increased, and that involves gringos, so it certainly gets attention in monger circles.
As for other cities, Bogota is equal as far as drugging etc. I think, but it is not followed as much by mongers.
I live in Sabaneta my girlfriend wants to get a little freaky and have two or three guys. I just asked you between 7 and 9 in and relatively good looking and between 30 and 50 years old. Let me know if anybody's here this week and is interested we'll be doing it sometime between Whursday and next Monday.
Also I've lived here 6 years I'm willing to most of the scenes so if you have any questions I'll be glad to help.You've only made four posts so far and don't have private messaging option — so how do you expect anyone to respond?
Global issue building resentment towards foreign tourists, which increases apathy and anger towards them. See Barcelona, Mexico City, etc.I can't speak for Barcelona, but Mexico isn't as bad as Medellin. I've visited every major city in Mexico, and there seems to be an unspoken agreement among cartels not to target foreign tourists or expats, at least in the larger cities. It's mostly petty crimes that are common, any high-profile incident like drugged and killed involving them are very rare, and typically brings a forceful response unless of course it involves someone gets in their way or mistaken identities.
You assume he has it. LOL. I guess N777 is being selectively picked on.Actually not selectively picking anyone. Just that if a guy knows he already has herpes and HIV then there is no risk for him going bareback. Quite selfish actually.
SlapShot10
07-09-25, 16:17
So The Tall Man has been in Medellin for 15 years and over this time span have seen the changes, the good and bad, which has been especially dramatic for 5 years now post pandemic.
Much can be argued about why the changes to our hobby but to sum it up as the cause to the proliferation of Social Media in general, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Only Fans, dating apps, etc.
Any of you guys want to ad your experience as to the cause?
TTM.Couldn't agree more, Tall Man, unfortunately. Another big factor is the ability for Paisas to go to EU, Mexico, etc. much easier than years past. A 9 gets a million so her six friends that are 7s think that price sounds good to them. It's a cancer of predatory egotistical business sense. A 7 gets a free trip to get S on in Dubai, so now all her friends that are 6s think you should take them to Mamba Negra on a first date and take 35 photos of them until they like one, and the 2nd date should be San Andres or Tulum. I think the Golden Age is over. Passport Bros are undefeated. I don't find myself in the tourist hot spots too frequently, but when I do, I am shocked at how little respect some gringos have for local culture and just a standard level of manners or behavior. The same old stories are so tired. If only these guys knew what it used to be like. Prices are not what they once were, and the valley is flooded with foreigners. I'm very seriously considering making a change and leaving Medellin to the backpackers, weekend ballers, and creeps. It breaks my heart but I'm fortunate to be able to make a difficult decision like this that I feel will make me happier in this short window of life we have. I feel like a human ATM these days. I can't imagine not being able to speak Spanish, here. I had been considering moving outside the city or to somewhere like Pereira, but I think I'd be bored at this point in my life. We'll see, but I think I might be one foot out the door.
Silver Turtle
07-09-25, 19:11
So The Tall Man has been in Medellin for 15 years and over this time span have seen the changes, the good and bad, which has been especially dramatic for 5 years now post pandemic.
Over the years I have also spent much time in just about every city and municipality in Colombia, such as Bogota / Buca / Cartagena / Cali / Medellin, Barranquilla / Santa Marta / Riohacha / Quibdo / Pereria / Valledupar / Cucuta / etc. And as for Medellin I know just about every bar, strip club, venue, party zone, bar, casa, massage place, street scene and things have changed so much in the past decade.
Much can be argued about why the changes to our hobby but to sum it up as the cause to the proliferation of Social Media in general, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Only Fans, dating apps, etc.
Any of you guys want to ad your experience as to the cause?
In the meantime I maintain about 4 or 5 in my rotation of mostly Paisas who are demure, fresh, great attitudes, reasonable priced, good hearts and souls, can hold a conversation about life and family, incredible lovemaking in the bedroom so perhaps not only has time changed but I have also.
TTM.Since the covid time, there has been a flux of gringos to Medellin. Now there are some seedy / obnoxious gringos hanging around the Botero / Veracruz area. They act like a hot shot, but I'm not sure if anybody deals with them in their home countries.
I think the Golden Age is over. Passport Bros are undefeated. I don't find myself in the tourist hot spots too frequently, but when I do, I am shocked at how little respect some gringos have for local culture and just a standard level of manners or behavior. ... Prices are not what they once were,I agree there are too many gringos who have little respect for the local culture and the local people. But it's not just tourists who show a lack of respect. This morning, I was walking down the sidewalk and a local man came out of a shop and walked across the sidewalk. If I had not hesitated and weaved, we would have collided. He didn't show any signs of acknowledging his poor manners. And if two locals are walking side-by-side on a sidewalk, many times they will not make room for someone walking in the opposite direction.
The prices of almost everything are going up. I've noticed Exito doesn't even try to keep the prices displayed on the shelves current, or they don't show any prices. I don't think the tourists are responsible for the supermarkets' price increases. When I first came to Medellin 15 years ago, the gringo I rented a room from told me not to pay the ladies more than 100 mil. I think the exchange rate at that time was less than 2,000/1, COP/$. It is now just over 4,000/1. I can get more attractive young ladies than I can handle now for 250 mil. I acknowledge the price has gone up faster since Covid than before, but the increase over a long period of time is not that bad.
The Tall Man
07-09-25, 19:40
Couldn't agree more, Tall Man, unfortunately. Another big factor is the ability for Paisas to go to EU, Mexico, etc. much easier than years past. A 9 gets a million so her six friends that are 7s think that price sounds good to them. It's a cancer of predatory egotistical business sense. A 7 gets a free trip to get S on in Dubai, so now all her friends that are 6s think you should take them to Mamba Negra on a first date and take 35 photos of them until they like one, and the 2nd date should be San Andres or Tulum. I think the Golden Age is over. Passport Bros are undefeated. I don't find myself in the tourist hot spots too frequently, but when I do, I am shocked at how little respect some gringos have for local culture and just a standard level of manners or behavior. The same old stories are so tired. If only these guys knew what it used to be like. Prices are not what they once were, and the valley is flooded with foreigners. I'm very seriously considering making a change and leaving Medellin to the backpackers, weekend ballers, and creeps. It breaks my heart but I'm fortunate to be able to make a difficult decision like this that I feel will make me happier in this short window of life we have. I feel like a human ATM these days. I can't imagine not being able to speak Spanish, here. I had been considering moving outside the city or to somewhere like Pereira, but I think I'd be bored at this point in my life. We'll see, but I think I might be one foot out the door.Valid points especially about Colombian women being invited by SIMPs to travel to Europe, Spain in particular, even Dubai, Mexico and the DR.
I have seen this played out with dozens of Paisas who I saw and enjoyed when they were just starting out even before thinking about the P4 P and were young, fresh and the proverbial next door girl then fast forward 5 years and I see them in Barcelona or Paris or Dubai.
I could write a book of what I have seen, experienced and observed not only myself but a few European and North American men who have come here for a few weeks to a number of years.
Another member mentioned that Colombia takes the TOP #1 spot for webcams in the world so chances are that the majority of the paisas have resorted to this to get some pay and hordes of attention as OF.
Remember "she's not your girl rather it is only your turn".
Be safe out there.
TTM.
Dear Fellow-Mongers.
Taking the risk of being accused of depressing the mood in this forum, I really need to ask, wether you guys think, that the Casas are save from Scopo-attacks.
I read a lot about it in this forum and how serious this has to be taken. There is also an episode on the Youtube Channel 'Life with David' - the episode's called 'The Dangers of Dating in Colombia'. At the end he hints, that if your coming to MDE only for sex with Paisas (which is my main intention), there are save places for it. I mean it's Youtube and I guess he can't be more specific on this in his channel BUT I had the feeling he is referring to Casas.
Now I would very much like you. Who have actual experience with Casas. To kindly let me know, if you feel, you are safe there and that Scopo-Attacks are highly unlikely there.
I figure that such an attack would make much more sense being in the hotel room / AirBnB of a victim tourist than in a brothel. But I am unexperienced on this turf and my next journey would be the first I undertake to South America.
The same question would apply to motels (like Ibiza West). So if I find a nice Paisa on a site like Prepagos and arrange an outcall to Ibiza West (not the place where I stay and my belongings are), would that be save or has anybody heard of American / European tourists being Scopo-attacked there?
Reports on this matter, which I read lately, really make me wondering, if it were better to go to Havanna instead. I guess it is more difficult there to make (pre-) arrangement with Girls (no Escort-Websites, etc.) but I feel the general safety situation is better. On the other hand Paisas are the prettiest ladies in the world. : the.
You guys see how conflicted I am, perhaps one of you can help me out and eliminate my doubts.
Thank you so much and hasta la próxima.
RiceRocket99
07-09-25, 21:52
Couldn't agree more, Tall Man, unfortunately. Another big factor is the ability for Paisas to go to EU, Mexico, etc. much easier than years past. A 9 gets a million so her six friends that are 7s think that price sounds good to them. It's a cancer of predatory egotistical business sense. A 7 gets a free trip to get S on in Dubai, so now all her friends that are 6s think you should take them to Mamba Negra on a first date and take 35 photos of them until they like one, and the 2nd date should be San Andres or Tulum. I think the Golden Age is over. Passport Bros are undefeated. I don't find myself in the tourist hot spots too frequently, but when I do, I am shocked at how little respect some gringos have for local culture and just a standard level of manners or behavior. The same old stories are so tired. If only these guys knew what it used to be like. Prices are not what they once were, and the valley is flooded with foreigners. I'm very seriously considering making a change and leaving Medellin to the backpackers, weekend ballers, and creeps. It breaks my heart but I'm fortunate to be able to make a difficult decision like this that I feel will make me happier in this short window of life we have. I feel like a human ATM these days. I can't imagine not being able to speak Spanish, here. I had been considering moving outside the city or to somewhere like Pereira, but I think I'd be bored at this point in my life. We'll see, but I think I might be one foot out the door.I've been coming here for the past 12 years now, and the gringo wave to MDE post pandemic doesn't bother me at all because I almost never see them. Only time I see gringos are at the airport or if I find myself in Poblado or Laureles areas. I still get cute girls in the 150-200 mil range that stays for 2+ hours and allows BBFS and these aren't the Parque Lleras chicas. I get them before they level up or start to realize they can get more from other non experienced gringos. By that time, I move on because the hunt is worth the end results. I ain't going nowhere, but yes MDE ain't what it used to be. Nothing rarely is. I just bought a million pesos worth of tussi (good price for 50 puntos) and going to party like a rockstar for the next month hehe.
MongerHunger
07-09-25, 22:37
I agree there are too many gringos who have little respect for the local culture and the local people. I have been to over 15 cities and municipalities across Colombia over the years and I have come to the conclusion that I should avoid the Gringos. I prefer the Local Scene and Culture. I don't travel around the World to hang out or seek out foreigners. Medellin has become a past time for me as I am exploring other areas of Colombia. I am sure that I will return to Medellin but it definitely not a priority. Whenever I see Gringos most of them are usually loud, drunk, high, ungrateful, complain a lot, brag and boast how they are better, self exultation, arrogant, self centered and self absorbed, definitely don't give a damn about the culture and traditions, could care less about the country, etc, etc and the list goes on. I just touched on a few points. Most stay in that Bubble called Poblado and Parque Lleras.
As for myself, I enjoy exploring, seeing and doing different things. I don't mind being among the locals, eating local food and drinks, listening to local music, learning the culture, making friends with people and families, helping out when I can see a genuine need. To all the Gringos, please stay where you are and don't explore anything or anywhere. You're doing good right there!
Toastmonger69
07-09-25, 23:34
I've been coming here for the past 12 years now, and the gringo wave to MDE post pandemic doesn't bother me at all because I almost never see them. Only time I see gringos are at the airport or if I find myself in Poblado or Laureles areas. I still get cute girls in the 150-200 mil range that stays for 2+ hours and allows BBFS and these aren't the Parque Lleras chicas. I get them before they level up or start to realize they can get more from other non experienced gringos. By that time, I move on because the hunt is worth the end results. I ain't going nowhere, but yes MDE ain't what it used to be. Nothing rarely is. I just bought a million pesos worth of tussi (good price for 50 puntos) and going to party like a rockstar for the next month hehe.Would love to know how to do this. Are you doing SA?
I'm a long time lurker (about 20 yrs on and off). Monger experience in Tijuana, Pattaya, FKKs, Canada and Japan- Tobita Shinichi.
Should I even bother with MDE at this point? Or spend more time at Wellcum and Sharks here in Europe? I'm on a grand mongering tour.
I just bought a million pesos worth of tussi (good price for 50 puntos) and going to party like a rockstar for the next month hehe.Is that an illegal drug in Colombia? What type of drug is it, like meth? How many of the women use it? Half?
Husker Dude
07-10-25, 04:32
Is that an illegal drug in Colombia? What type of drug is it, like meth? How many of the women use it? Half?Known as pink cocaine. Actually a combo drug mainly ketamine.
Just that if a guy knows he already has herpes and HIV then there is no risk for him going bareback. Quite selfish actually.It's higher risk but that does not mean the ones that are doing it have it. You have similar attitude when you won't session with what you consider attractive girls in Plaza Botero even after I offered to be your wingman. I think it's more of a personal choice.
I've noticed Exito doesn't even try to keep the prices displayed on the shelves current, or they don't show any prices. I don't think the tourists are responsible for the supermarkets' price increases. Some Exitos that I go to now offer to pay in USD by credit card.
Parasitius
07-10-25, 16:13
Dear Fellow-Mongers.
Taking the risk of being accused of depressing the mood in this forum, I really need to ask, wether you guys think, that the Casas are save from Scopo-attacks.
I read a lot about it in this forum and how serious this has to be taken. There is also an episode on the Youtube Channel 'Life with David' - the episode's called 'The Dangers of Dating in Colombia'. At the end he hints, that if your coming to MDE only for sex with Paisas (which is my main intention), there are save places for it. I mean it's Youtube and I guess he can't be more specific on this in his channel BUT I had the feeling he is referring to Casas.
Now I would very much like you. Who have actual experience with Casas. To kindly let me know, if you feel, you are safe there and that Scopo-Attacks are highly unlikely there.
I figure that such an attack would make much more sense being in the hotel room / AirBnB of a victim tourist than in a brothel. But I am unexperienced on this turf and my next journey would be the first I undertake to South America.
The same question would apply to motels (like Ibiza West). So if I find a nice Paisa on a site like Prepagos and arrange an outcall to Ibiza West (not the place where I stay and my belongings are), would that be save or has anybody heard of American / European tourists being Scopo-attacked there?
Reports on this matter, which I read lately, really make me wondering, if it were better to go to Havanna instead. I guess it is more difficult there to make (pre-) arrangement with Girls (no Escort-Websites, etc.) but I feel the general safety situation is better. On the other hand Paisas are the prettiest ladies in the world. : the.
You guys see how conflicted I am, perhaps one of you can help me out and eliminate my doubts.
Thank you so much and hasta la prxima.You're not facing any risk of scope attacks in Casas or strip club sex. It doesn't make sense, why should they drug you? If they're going to risk losing their businesses, they might as well kidnap you right then and there while you're locked inside.
As for the other question, it doesn't make any sense to me. OF COURSE there is risk doing business with entites that don't have a public reputation and company address like calling a girl to show up at your hotel regardless of website.
It's higher risk but that does not mean the ones that are doing it have it. You have similar attitude when you won't session with what you consider attractive girls in Plaza Botero even after I offered to be your wingman. I think it's more of a personal choice.I can't recall your offer Nounce, probably senior moment on my part, but thanks anyway. I have been to Plaza Botero many times but the mood dies when I get there. I have sessioned in worst places such as Sonagashi in Kolkata, India and the Catacombs in Chang Ping, China (closed down now) and if I return to Sonagashi I will session there. However, the vibe in Botero turns me off for some reason. Could it be that huge church in the middle of the place (I was once an altar boy many moons ago) perhaps a psychologist could answer.
I follow that approach exactly, but have not added the cum booster combination, but WILL BE DOING THAT!!
Anyway, I follow the same regimen:
HPV Vaccine. Done - no one wants throat cancer from eating out a girl who has HPV, or FAR, FAR worse. Uncurable genital warts. Most people can get this vaccine for free via insurance coverage in the US, even if you can't GET THIS VACCINE!!
PreP. Anti HIV pills. Per my doctor, who is gay and says "we in our community follow this", basically he says that there are 2 approaches to using PreP - 1) take 2 pills within 24 hours after unprotected sex OR you can take 1 pill a day starting 1 week prior to your trip and continue that until 3 days after your trip ends. I follow the second approach because it builds up into your system for a week prior your likely unprotected sexual encounter and then you carry that protection through 3 days post. This seems more logical / prudent approach. Even if it's HIGHLY unlikely that you can contract HIV from vaginal sex with a female, you DO NOT WANT TO contract it!
Doxycycline. As noted, this covers syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, etc. All of which are nasty bacterial STDs that you also do not want.
Per GoogleAI: Doxycycline Post-Exposure Prophylaxis (Doxy-PEP) is a strategy to prevent certain bacterial sexually transmitted infections (STIs), also known as sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).
Doxy-PEP can help prevent the following bacterial STIs:
Syphilis.
Chlamydia.
Gonorrhea (to a lesser extent).
Studies have shown that Doxy-PEP can significantly reduce the risk of acquiring these infections when taken within 72 hours of condomless oral, vaginal, or anal sex.
Bottom line, with a solid regimen of the above 3, and throwing in valocyclovir for genital herpes, you've reduced your likelihood of contracting nastiness via vaginal unprotected sex to what I consider an acceptable level.
Everyone has their own risk tolerance, a 3% or less chance of STD contraction is a risk I'm willing to take.
Do what feels right for you and cheers!!
On the subject of fucking raw, this excerpt from a somewhat self-congratulatory, but nonetheless quite entertaining and informative, 2024 Medellin trip report billed by one poster as the GOAT of all Reports of Distinction.
His preventative mode of operation--a high-maintenance routine of daily meds (which clearly comes without the Mayo Clinic's full seal of approval):
" I know this is an odd thing. But I'm telling you this: There are some meds that I just won't travel without:
Sunflower Lecithin. This stuff comes in HUGE horse pills, and taste disgusting. But when paired with 25 MG of Zinc you will literally boost your cum production 5 x. I like to be able to paint a girls face proper. The more cum you make, the better your orgasm. Plain and simple.
PrEP. This is a prescription medication that is an ANTI-HIV / blocker. If you are barebacking girls in high volume (or any volume), I strongly recommend it.
DoxyCycline. This stuff in combination with PrEP is known to block almost all other STDs / STIS.
HPV vaccine. If you don't have this (its a series of 3 vaccines- fucking get it. Makes you immune to HPV.
The goal here is to fuck as much raw as possible and protect yourself from getting sick. I'm also fixed so I don't worry about babies, but guys, these girls are poor as it is, if you make a baby, take care of it. If you don't. You're a trash terrible person and I hope you burn in hell. Babies are Gods gift to this earth. ".
* Make sure you take PREP and cycle antibiotics. Girls will say they are clean, but the 5 guys they fucked before might have been lying. I have BBed over 800 girls in MDE and still clean to this day. Prep+Doxycycline pretty much makes you immune to STDS. (Sure it ruins your liver, but fuck livers). ".
Above posted by YyzTravel, Post #66380, on 4-11-24. Here's link to page 206 of the Medellin thread with the report. A Tolstoy novel in length but worth a read when you have the time. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2907830#post2907830.
I have been to over 15 cities and municipalities across Colombia over the years and I have come to the conclusion that I should avoid the Gringos. I prefer the Local Scene and Culture. I don't travel around the World to hang out or seek out foreigners. Medellin has become a past time for me as I am exploring other areas of Colombia. I am sure that I will return to Medellin but it definitely not a priority. Whenever I see Gringos most of them are usually loud, drunk, high, ungrateful, complain a lot, brag and boast how they are better, self exultation, arrogant, self centered and self absorbed, definitely don't give a damn about the culture and traditions, could care less about the country, etc, etc and the list goes on. I just touched on a few points. Most stay in that Bubble called Poblado and Parque Lleras.
As for myself, I enjoy exploring, seeing and doing different things. I don't mind being among the locals, eating local food and drinks, listening to local music, learning the culture, making friends with people and families, helping out when I can see a genuine need. To all the Gringos, please stay where you are and don't explore anything or anywhere. You're doing good right there!You see them in tons. Very loud, obnoxious and drunk. In New Life like casas after 1 pm. They come in groups and occupy the place for 3 or 4 hours. Heard locals complaining loud.
Some Exitos that I go to now offer to pay in USD by credit card.I imagine everyplace that accepts foreign credit cards would like you to pay in USD. That way, they get to determine the exchange rate, rather than the CC processing company determining the rate. If the merchant does it, the rate will be very bad.
Valid points especially about Colombian women being invited by SIMPs to travel to Europe, Spain in particular, even Dubai, Mexico and the DR.
I have seen this played out with dozens of Paisas who I saw and enjoyed when they were just starting out even before thinking about the P4 P and were young, fresh and the proverbial next door girl then fast forward 5 years and I see them in Barcelona or Paris or Dubai.
I could write a book of what I have seen, experienced and observed not only myself but a few European and North American men who have come here for a few weeks to a number of years.
Another member mentioned that Colombia takes the TOP #1 spot for webcams in the world so chances are that the majority of the paisas have resorted to this to get some pay and hordes of attention as OF.
Remember "she's not your girl rather it is only your turn"..It is very sad that I know some girls in Medellin who got sucked into this, discontinuing their education and jobs. Every girl wants to do it since it is an easy lot of money while ignoring their career and life in later years.
One girl went to Athens and came back right after a month complaining the money making abroad is not worth, while leaving family behind, the exploitation done by the middlemen. She said they take your passport and charge for everything for sharing room, plane tickets and commission.
Is that an illegal drug in Colombia? What type of drug is it, like meth? How many of the women use it? Half?From my understanding, tussi, like coke, is prohibited, but not illegal. I know a local who said he spent the night in jail for simple possession. Not sure what penalty is for a gringo; but pay the bribe.
This is the key point. Possession for 1 gram is just possession; you don't get major "jail time". But with more than 1 gram, they can charge you with intent to sell; that is years in jail.
Never done meth. Tussi is approximately 70% ecstasy and about 28% ketamine. IMO, since you snort it, it should be relatively safe. I don't think you can OD from ecstasy. But if you do too much, you can get into the ketamine "rat hole". Also, you can get diarrhea. LOL!
Note that there are different types of tussi. You can tell by the color. It should be a dark pink. IMO, the light pink and the light purple colored stuff has more ketamine and junk and not enough ecstasy.
In Colombia, many girls do not like coke; many girls like tussi. Not sure of the percentages among civilians. But, the majority of the girls in Bogota's Santa Fe love tussi.
If boredom is your problem, I promise Pereira is not going to solve it. As for passport bros, I don't cross paths with them often enough to think about them when they aren't in sight. They definitely make their presence known. To me it doesn't seem like people here deal with weekend warriors unless they are in the tourism sector or escorts. I think that goes both ways because the weekend warriors don't deal so much with locals who aren't service providers of those two categories. E.
Couldn't agree more, Tall Man, unfortunately. Another big factor is the ability for Paisas to go to EU, Mexico, etc. much easier than years past. A 9 gets a million so her six friends that are 7s think that price sounds good to them. It's a cancer of predatory egotistical business sense. A 7 gets a free trip to get S on in Dubai, so now all her friends that are 6s think you should take them to Mamba Negra on a first date and take 35 photos of them until they like one, and the 2nd date should be San Andres or Tulum. I think the Golden Age is over. Passport Bros are undefeated. I don't find myself in the tourist hot spots too frequently, but when I do, I am shocked at how little respect some gringos have for local culture and just a standard level of manners or behavior. The same old stories are so tired. If only these guys knew what it used to be like. Prices are not what they once were, and the valley is flooded with foreigners. I'm very seriously considering making a change and leaving Medellin to the backpackers, weekend ballers, and creeps. It breaks my heart but I'm fortunate to be able to make a difficult decision like this that I feel will make me happier in this short window of life we have. I feel like a human ATM these days. I can't imagine not being able to speak Spanish, here. I had been considering moving outside the city or to somewhere like Pereira, but I think I'd be bored at this point in my life. We'll see, but I think I might be one foot out the door.
Mr Enternational
07-10-25, 23:16
One girl went to Athens and came back right after a month complaining the money making abroad is not worth, while leaving family behind, the exploitation done by the middlemen. She said they take your passport and charge for everything for sharing room, plane tickets and commission.Did she think they were dumb gringos who were ready to foot the bill and fix all her problems for some pussy?
I really miss Luna Lunera. I haven't been since the pandemic. It brings back memories of 15 years ago when I would pop in there to unwind after sessions at Abydos across the street. I'm going to make a point of stopping in to check it out. I remember you could negotiate much cheaper prices when I went during daytime hours.
I only went to Luna lunera and La isla. I prefer la isla and it is expensive. 50 for cover charge, you must consume 40 k at the bar, or a 600 k+ bottle service for a table. The room+service is 600 k for 40 minutes.
Luna lunera is around $80 according to the guy I talked to while there, I just went for a beer. The girls are more like 7-8's but more friendly vs la Isla.
P.S.
I saw on the night I was there at the tabel adjacent to me; JaX slayher and this other white dude having fun, the white dude and another blonde dude took a porn star looking chick that is full on plastic to the private area. I just know that the dudes go out first after like 40 minutes; the girl came out like 1. 5 hour later and looked super pissed and was telling something to the other girls around the table.
TheDerilious
07-11-25, 14:36
Did she think they were dumb gringos who were ready to foot the bill and fix all her problems for some pussy?No, maybe she just expected that she wouldn't have cut throat sex traffickers taking advantage of workers who don't have the full information of what they are signing up for. I know a lot of these girls have GSP, but this is something totally different. These women are being taken advantage of with vague promises of "you'll get paid x, we'll take care of everything" and then get turned around and exploited to the maximum amount by organized gangs and other horrible people. Remember, these girls are normally 18-24 and have never been trained or educated in how to negotiate or anything (half the time they are going some where their work is illegal).
Don't be an asshat when it comes to shitty, sex traffickers and their well-known practices, just because you some girls have GPS.
Mr Enternational
07-11-25, 15:10
No, maybe she just expected that she wouldn't have cut throat sex traffickers taking advantage of workers who don't have the full information of what they are signing up for.
Don't be an asshat when it comes to shitty, sex traffickers and their well-known practices, just because you some girls have GPS.Common sense is not so common. Amazing how some of the hookers can be just as gullible and not streetwise as some of the mongers in their own industry. Selling and buying pussy is not for the faint of heart. Sometimes you get the roses and sometimes you get the guns.
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