Medellin Reports

[NitroNinja]

I visited Esperanza Maríand Spa in El Poblado. Only three women were available. Two were below 5, and the third was a bit too curvy but cute, so I chose her. She asked for an extra fee for the mutual touch (sorry, I can't remember the exact amount). It was a typical spa experience, but the massage routine was good, so I'd say it was a little above average. I didn't go back, but I think it's worth checking out.

P. S Jade Palace Spa also thee woman were available. But all of them was below 5.

[Zeos1]

This is why I stay away these places. The girls are good at ripping people off. You won't be the last person she does that way.Ripping you off is not what it is. You get the basic service for a cheap price. I may vary a bit between girls, but a covered blowjob and sex would be minimum. They don't promise more, but sometimes you can have a great time, other times the minimum for around 70 mil. Price of a happy meal more or less.

[HumbleHal]

New Life Spa had a lot of talent. I selected the prettiest girl to my taste, but the experience turned out to be more than a disappointment. There were no greetings, everything was covered, and the session was super rushed. After only a few minutes of a CBJ, she rode me and didn't allow me to change position. I will never go back there again.What do you expect when you select a woman based solely on her being the prettiest girl? You did not talk to any of the girls, interview them about what you would get. You knew nothing about her personality, nothing about her needs, it was strictly her looks. Shallow. You did not have a normal satisfying session that met your expectations, you simply had a quick trick turn. And the woman wanted to maximize her money with the least amount of time and effort, and get another sucker based solely on her looks. The 8's and 9's do not charm with their personality or performance, they charm with their looks and get another man, very quickly. They do not care if you never go back there again, the prettiest girl can and will always get another sucker. And make $$ and underperform all the time.

Reminds me of my very attractive ex-wife. She would tell me men would always turn their head for her, help her pump her gas at the station, and she would scream at me once a week. 4 years with her was a loooong time. Too long. Fortunately I had a pre-nup and got rid of her quickly. Now she is married for the 4th time, to some old chump who is deaf and does not have to listen to her scream at him, he cannot hear it! LOL.

[Turgid]

Famous and notorious, New Life Spa had a lot of talent. I selected the prettiest girl to my taste, but the experience turned out to be more than a disappointment. There were no greetings, everything was covered, and the session was super rushed. After only a few minutes of a CBJ, she rode me and didn't allow me to change position. I will never go back there again.It is unfortunate and I hope not a trend but it seems that one may have to do as in German FKKs and settle beforehand with the girl the service you expect and avoid if she disagrees.

[ElSexoChino7]

Visited Barra Ejecutiva on a Saturday night last week around 10 pm as some of you recommended. Went straight in. No cover. No searches. No ID checking like in other strip clubs in Medellin. So I guess they just let anyone enter LOL. Got seated right away. Asked the mesero if they have drink menu, tells me no. Got me a beer for 17,000. Did a quick scan of the room, probably around 20+ girls. Would rate the quality of girls 4-6 at most. I saw 2 girls that I would fuck. A lot of empty tables. People started coming in one hour later. The tables around me started getting sat down. My beer was almost finished and as soon as I tried to call the mesero for another one and I was about to ask him to have one of the girls sit down on my table, he told me that I need to go because I only have one beer on my table LOL. I told him give me another beer then and told me no. First time I got kicked out in the strip club LOL. My mistake was I did not get the Whatsapp of those 2 girls that I wanted to fuck so I will come back on a different night.

I took an Uber from Barra Ejecutiva straight to Park lleras just to see the scene. It was raining so less people. Mostly inside the club. Everytime I go to lleras, I see more younger looking girls that probably had not hit puberty yet. Just not my scene anymore. Don't get me wrong you can still find diamonds in there. But you have to be quick and not hesitate if you see a hottie or she'll get snatch up with all the gringos flocking in there LOL.

I decided to chill outside Sky park in lleras. Scoping the area for diamonds. I did found at least 4 that I wanted to do the deed. But I was not planning to take any girl from lleras that night. I stayed for about 1 hour until I met a guy from Florida that just came out from Sky park. I asked how is it inside as I've never been there. He me told a lot of pretty girls but the girl that he wants quoted her for 600 k a pop LOL. I was like hell nooo. My guy didn't want to pay that either LOL.

I looked at the time and it was still a little early for me. So I ordered Uber to checked out FASE DOS, my favorite strip club in Medellin to see how's the scene there now. I arrived in 12 minutes coming from lleras park. Cover fee is 50 k. Good amount of people. I went straight to the bar to get my cerveza. Corona is 44,000 here compare to 17,000 in Barra Ejecutiva. I guess the bartender already included his tip in there LOL. About 30+ girls working that night and I would say I am pretty disappointed as the quality of girls went down than the last time I was there. I did not find anyone that I wanted to fuck. Girls are average or below average looking this time. I asked one of the girls how much for sex and the room and told me it's 500 k for 45 minutes. It was 400 k last time I was there which is last year September 2024. I did bagged a 8/10 hot paisa girl last time and even asked her whatsapp for a domicilio. I decided to just get some lap dances from girls that roams around the room. Total spent 140 k. I would skip FASE DOS for now and come back again on another time. It seems like they change their roster of girls very often or they probably went to La Isla for more money LOL.

[Balboa]

Visited Barra Ejecutiva on a Saturday night last week around 10 pm as some of you recommended. Went straight in. No cover. No searches. No ID checking like in other strip clubs in Medellin. So I guess they just let anyone enter LOL. Got seated right away. Asked the mesero if they have drink menu, tells me no. Got me a beer for 17,000. Did a quick scan of the room, probably around 20+ girls. Would rate the quality of girls 4-6 at most. I saw 2 girls that I would fuck. A lot of empty tables. People started coming in one hour later. The tables around me started getting sat down. My beer was almost finished and as soon as I tried to call the mesero for another one and I was about to ask him to have one of the girls sit down on my table, he told me that I need to go because I only have one beer on my table LOL. I told him give me another beer then and told me no. First time I got kicked out in the strip club LOL. My mistake was I did not get the Whatsapp of those 2 girls that I wanted to fuck so I will come back on a different night.
Thanks for the report.

I find it hard to believe tho, that you'the get booted from a club, especially one like Ejecutiva, for only having one beer at your table.

Do you speak spanish? Real spanish, not Kindergarten level.

Anyway thanks again for reporting on the scene.

[Toastmonger69]

Have you tried Sexi Amigas?


Visited Barra Ejecutiva on a Saturday night last week around 10 pm as some of you recommended. Went straight in. No cover. No searches. No ID checking like in other strip clubs in Medellin. So I guess they just let anyone enter LOL. Got seated right away. Asked the mesero if they have drink menu, tells me no. Got me a beer for 17,000. Did a quick scan of the room, probably around 20+ girls. Would rate the quality of girls 4-6 at most. I saw 2 girls that I would fuck. A lot of empty tables. People started coming in one hour later. The tables around me started getting sat down. My beer was almost finished and as soon as I tried to call the mesero for another one and I was about to ask him to have one of the girls sit down on my table, he told me that I need to go because I only have one beer on my table LOL. I told him give me another beer then and told me no. First time I got kicked out in the strip club LOL. My mistake was I did not get the Whatsapp of those 2 girls that I wanted to fuck so I will come back on a different night.

I took an Uber from Barra Ejecutiva straight to Park lleras just to see the scene. It was raining so less people. Mostly inside the club. Everytime I go to lleras, I see more younger looking girls that probably had not hit puberty yet. Just not my scene anymore. Don't get me wrong you can still find diamonds in there. But you have to be quick and not hesitate if you see a hottie or she'll get snatch up with all the gringos flocking in there LOL.

I decided to chill outside Sky park in lleras. Scoping the area for diamonds. I did found at least 4 that I wanted to do the deed. But I was not planning to take any girl from lleras that night. I stayed for about 1 hour until I met a guy from Florida that just came out from Sky park. I asked how is it inside as I've never been there. He me told a lot of pretty girls but the girl that he wants quoted her for 600 k a pop LOL. I was like hell nooo. My guy didn't want to pay that either LOL.

I looked at the time and it was still a little early for me. So I ordered Uber to checked out FASE DOS, my favorite strip club in Medellin to see how's the scene there now. I arrived in 12 minutes coming from lleras park. Cover fee is 50 k. Good amount of people. I went straight to the bar to get my cerveza. Corona is 44,000 here compare to 17,000 in Barra Ejecutiva. I guess the bartender already included his tip in there LOL. About 30+ girls working that night and I would say I am pretty disappointed as the quality of girls went down than the last time I was there. I did not find anyone that I wanted to fuck. Girls are average or below average looking this time. I asked one of the girls how much for sex and the room and told me it's 500 k for 45 minutes. It was 400 k last time I was there which is last year September 2024. I did bagged a 8/10 hot paisa girl last time and even asked her whatsapp for a domicilio. I decided to just get some lap dances from girls that roams around the room. Total spent 140 k. I would skip FASE DOS for now and come back again on another time. It seems like they change their roster of girls very often or they probably went to La Isla for more money LOL.

[Toastmonger69]

I see you also went to both Medellin and PAttaya like me. Any other stops along the way? Did you stop in Europe for some FKK action?


Visited Barra Ejecutiva on a Saturday night last week around 10 pm as some of you recommended. Went straight in. No cover. No searches. No ID checking like in other strip clubs in Medellin. So I guess they just let anyone enter LOL. Got seated right away. Asked the mesero if they have drink menu, tells me no. Got me a beer for 17,000. Did a quick scan of the room, probably around 20+ girls. Would rate the quality of girls 4-6 at most. I saw 2 girls that I would fuck. A lot of empty tables. People started coming in one hour later. The tables around me started getting sat down. My beer was almost finished and as soon as I tried to call the mesero for another one and I was about to ask him to have one of the girls sit down on my table, he told me that I need to go because I only have one beer on my table LOL. I told him give me another beer then and told me no. First time I got kicked out in the strip club LOL. My mistake was I did not get the Whatsapp of those 2 girls that I wanted to fuck so I will come back on a different night.

I took an Uber from Barra Ejecutiva straight to Park lleras just to see the scene. It was raining so less people. Mostly inside the club. Everytime I go to lleras, I see more younger looking girls that probably had not hit puberty yet. Just not my scene anymore. Don't get me wrong you can still find diamonds in there. But you have to be quick and not hesitate if you see a hottie or she'll get snatch up with all the gringos flocking in there LOL.

I decided to chill outside Sky park in lleras. Scoping the area for diamonds. I did found at least 4 that I wanted to do the deed. But I was not planning to take any girl from lleras that night. I stayed for about 1 hour until I met a guy from Florida that just came out from Sky park. I asked how is it inside as I've never been there. He me told a lot of pretty girls but the girl that he wants quoted her for 600 k a pop LOL. I was like hell nooo. My guy didn't want to pay that either LOL.

I looked at the time and it was still a little early for me. So I ordered Uber to checked out FASE DOS, my favorite strip club in Medellin to see how's the scene there now. I arrived in 12 minutes coming from lleras park. Cover fee is 50 k. Good amount of people. I went straight to the bar to get my cerveza. Corona is 44,000 here compare to 17,000 in Barra Ejecutiva. I guess the bartender already included his tip in there LOL. About 30+ girls working that night and I would say I am pretty disappointed as the quality of girls went down than the last time I was there. I did not find anyone that I wanted to fuck. Girls are average or below average looking this time. I asked one of the girls how much for sex and the room and told me it's 500 k for 45 minutes. It was 400 k last time I was there which is last year September 2024. I did bagged a 8/10 hot paisa girl last time and even asked her whatsapp for a domicilio. I decided to just get some lap dances from girls that roams around the room. Total spent 140 k. I would skip FASE DOS for now and come back again on another time. It seems like they change their roster of girls very often or they probably went to La Isla for more money LOL.

[ElSexoChino7]

Do you speak spanish? Real spanish, not Kindergarten level.My Spanish is Intermediate, but definitely NOT Kindergarten level sir. I don't remember the last time I used Google translate when talking to a chica.

I'm pretty sure the reason I got booted up is because it's a Saturday night which is understandable. The club was packed around midnight and it's where the folks come in to drink. But I was ready to buy some more drinks and have a chica sit down with me. I'll try to go there on a weekday and will report back when I go.

[LoveItHere69]

Got me a beer for 17,000. Did a quick scan of the room, probably around 20+ girls. Would rate the quality of girls 4-6 at most. I saw 2 girls that I would fuck. A lot of empty tables. People started coming in one hour later. The tables around me started getting sat down. My beer was almost finished and as soon as I tried to call the mesero for another one and I was about to ask him to have one of the girls sit down on my table, he told me that I need to go because I only have one beer on my table LOL. I told him give me another beer then and told me no. First time I got kicked out in the strip club LOL.

Everytime I go to lleras, I see more younger looking girls that probably had not hit puberty yet.One beer in one hour and no drinks for any girls. Any busy bar in any country would have you give up your table which is prime property = money for more guys and guys that drink faster and buy drinks for the girls. You were costing them money. You were not kicked out. You were simply removed from prime money making property (table) because you were not spending enough. Even if you were a local with perfect Spanish, you would have had to give up your table. They would have let you stand somewhere and stay all night as long as you spent money.

Balboa. You think he was kicked out for not speaking Spanish. The business is not there to speak with you and be your friend. The bar is there to make money and language does not factor in. I fail to understand how you came up with this assessment of the problem.

Your underage comment is hard to believe. With all the underage stuff in the news, posters at the airports and hotels, and arrests the past 2 years of pedos this is hard to believe after so many posts about the police checking IDs and blocking areas off at Lleras.

[Giz99]

They prefer to have higher paying guests at the tables next to the stage. You can always sit in the chairs against the walls with no issues.


Thanks for the report.

I find it hard to believe tho, that you'the get booted from a club, especially one like Ejecutiva, for only having one beer at your table.

Do you speak spanish? Real spanish, not Kindergarten level.

Anyway thanks again for reporting on the scene.

[Giz99]

What do they charge for just a lapdance?




I looked at the time and it was still a little early for me. So I ordered Uber to checked out FASE DOS, my favorite strip club in Medellin to see how's the scene there now. I arrived in 12 minutes coming from lleras park. Cover fee is 50 k. Good amount of people. I went straight to the bar to get my cerveza. Corona is 44,000 here compare to 17,000 in Barra Ejecutiva. I guess the bartender already included his tip in there LOL. About 30+ girls working that night and I would say I am pretty disappointed as the quality of girls went down than the last time I was there. I did not find anyone that I wanted to fuck. Girls are average or below average looking this time. I asked one of the girls how much for sex and the room and told me it's 500 k for 45 minutes. It was 400 k last time I was there which is last year September 2024. I did bagged a 8/10 hot paisa girl last time and even asked her whatsapp for a domicilio. I decided to just get some lap dances from girls that roams around the room. Total spent 140 k. I would skip FASE DOS for now and come back again on another time. It seems like they change their roster of girls very often or they probably went to La Isla for more money LOL.

[ElSexoChino7]

Been to MDE for years and never visited this 2 spots. I finally went to go see for myself.

NEW LIFE:

I got there right at 11:00 am on a Sunday and will recommend to go at this time because the chicas are fresh and you will beat the other gringos for the hotties. Went inside the Blue door and had to pass through 2 other white metal gates. Walked up the stairs saw the mamasan. She probably did not recognize me and asked me if it's my first time there. I said Yes. She showed me the menu and I asked for the line up of girls. Told me to remember the number of the girl that I like. I had 10 girls walked up to me and Introduce their names one by one. Quality of girls 5-7/10. I saw 3 that I wanted to fuck.

First, Venezuelan, 28 years old, sexy body, pretty face, fake tits and long black hair wearing red lingerie. Second, paisa girl, she's got more meat than the first one, but has curves in the right places, face is okay and nice plump ass that you want to eat. Third, thick MILF, probably late 30's, she's gorgeous and have sexy body, big tits with big nipples poking out on her bra. Looks natural and I wanted to suck it so bad. Had to make the hard decision but I went to the first one.

I opt for 1 hour (125,000 cop). Then she walked me to the room. Wasn't that bad. Small room with fan and a bathroom attached inside. She asked if I wanted massage first, I said yes. It was an okay massage nothing impressive. Gave me a 10 minutes massage. I asked for Oral natural, told me 50 k extra. Sure. Sucked me off slowly while maintaining eye contact. That pretty face with my dick on her mouth is very sensational. I could never go back again with CBJ. She knows how to use her tongue while my dick inside her mouth. She puts condom on and we started with cowgirl. She rides junior slowly and saw her pretty face with satisfaction. She likes to ride fast until she started sweating. Told her to turn the fan faster cause we are both sweating. Switched to doggy, pounded her hard and told me to pull her hair. Sure, kinky girl LOL. Switched to missionary and can't forget her pretty face. Don't know why I didn't go for a kiss, I was too focused on watching her pretty face while I pound her pussy. 30 minutes in and I still couldn't finished. Went to reverse cowgirl to see her ass on action and asking me if I'm ready to cum. Told her no. I finally gave up and told her to just suck me off until I finished. Gave me another BBBJ and told her "No tengo leche para hoy". I just told her that's it. She did put effort to make me cum so I will not complain. I just took a shower cause I've been sweating hard. That room gets hotter for longer fuck session. She told me not worry about the extra 50 k for oral natural since I did not finished anyway. That's a nice gesture. I looked at the time and I finished right on 1 hour time. Paid 125,000 to mamasan and saw 4 gringos in the lounge while on my way to the door.

The good thing about this place, you pay for whatever time you want. Can do 30 minutes, 45 minutes, 1 hour and so on. I attached the latest price table for New life below as of (August, 2025). Oral natural is extra 50 k and you pay that in the room with the girl. They also sells variety of drinks and some cervezas. I think only thing missing is food LOL. This place is built for mongering. You can chill after your 1st session in the small lounge they have and then go back again with another girl if you're ready for round 2. As always YMMV. I am planning to repeat for the 2 other chicas.

Amigas Sexxyy:

I went on a Wednesday around 11:30 am. Got a line up of 6 girls. Quality of girls 3-5/10. I did not see anyone I wanted to fuck. Told Mamasan I will come back on a different day. Maybe weekend has better quality of girls?

[ElSexoChino7]

What do they charge for just a lapdance?Don't really have specific charge. I went there exchange 100,000 for a stacks of 2,000 bills and I just tipped the girls 10,000 per song and they were happy with me stashing the bills on their bikini or bra LOL.

I did see some gringos tipped 4,000 or 6,000 per song so there you go

[ElSexoChino7]

I see you also went to both Medellin and PAttaya like me. Any other stops along the way? Did you stop in Europe for some FKK action?Never been to Europe, but I am planning to go sometime next year to try those FKK's.


Have you tried Sexi Amigas?I just posted a report for this.

[Gandi718]

Didi half the price of uber.

[Toastmonger69]

Interesting. I will have to try newlife if you say it is better. Maybe you went at a bad time to Amigas? Thank you for your perspective.


Been to MDE for years and never visited this 2 spots. I finally went to go see for myself.

NEW LIFE:

I got there right at 11:00 am on a Sunday and will recommend to go at this time because the chicas are fresh and you will beat the other gringos for the hotties. Went inside the Blue door and had to pass through 2 other white metal gates. Walked up the stairs saw the mamasan. She probably did not recognize me and asked me if it's my first time there. I said Yes. She showed me the menu and I asked for the line up of girls. Told me to remember the number of the girl that I like. I had 10 girls walked up to me and Introduce their names one by one. Quality of girls 5-7/10. I saw 3 that I wanted to fuck.

First, Venezuelan, 28 years old, sexy body, pretty face, fake tits and long black hair wearing red lingerie. Second, paisa girl, she's got more meat than the first one, but has curves in the right places, face is okay and nice plump ass that you want to eat. Third, thick MILF, probably late 30's, she's gorgeous and have sexy body, big tits with big nipples poking out on her bra. Looks natural and I wanted to suck it so bad. Had to make the hard decision but I went to the first one.

I opt for 1 hour (125,000 cop). Then she walked me to the room. Wasn't that bad. Small room with fan and a bathroom attached inside. She asked if I wanted massage first, I said yes. It was an okay massage nothing impressive. Gave me a 10 minutes massage. I asked for Oral natural, told me 50 k extra. Sure. Sucked me off slowly while maintaining eye contact. That pretty face with my dick on her mouth is very sensational. I could never go back again with CBJ. She knows how to use her tongue while my dick inside her mouth. She puts condom on and we started with cowgirl. She rides junior slowly and saw her pretty face with satisfaction. She likes to ride fast until she started sweating. Told her to turn the fan faster cause we are both sweating. Switched to doggy, pounded her hard and told me to pull her hair. Sure, kinky girl LOL. Switched to missionary and can't forget her pretty face. Don't know why I didn't go for a kiss, I was too focused on watching her pretty face while I pound her pussy. 30 minutes in and I still couldn't finished. Went to reverse cowgirl to see her ass on action and asking me if I'm ready to cum. Told her no. I finally gave up and told her to just suck me off until I finished. Gave me another BBBJ and told her "No tengo leche para hoy". I just told her that's it. She did put effort to make me cum so I will not complain. I just took a shower cause I've been sweating hard. That room gets hotter for longer fuck session. She told me not worry about the extra 50 k for oral natural since I did not finished anyway. That's a nice gesture. I looked at the time and I finished right on 1 hour time. Paid 125,000 to mamasan and saw 4 gringos in the lounge while on my way to the door.

The good thing about this place, you pay for whatever time you want. Can do 30 minutes, 45 minutes, 1 hour and so on. I attached the latest price table for New life below as of (August, 2025). Oral natural is extra 50 k and you pay that in the room with the girl. They also sells variety of drinks and some cervezas. I think only thing missing is food LOL. This place is built for mongering. You can chill after your 1st session in the small lounge they have and then go back again with another girl if you're ready for round 2. As always YMMV. I am planning to repeat for the 2 other chicas.

Amigas Sexxyy:

I went on a Wednesday around 11:30 am. Got a line up of 6 girls. Quality of girls 3-5/10. I did not see anyone I wanted to fuck. Told Mamasan I will come back on a different day. Maybe weekend has better quality of girls?

[Balboa]

Balboa. You think he was kicked out for not speaking Spanish. The business is not there to speak with you and be your friend. The bar is there to make money and language does not factor in. I fail to understand how you came up with this assessment of the problem.
No of course not man, I was asking about his level of spanish to see if he actually understood why or if he was actually being booted from the table and / or the club.

I fail to understand how you couldn't figure that out.

[Oterri]

I used to buy 100 MG tablets from calidad droga near parque barrio but they don't sell it any more. Used to be about a buck for one 100 MG tablet. All others have now quoted me $3-4 a tablet which is obviously more than double of what it costs in Asia.

Are there any other places where you guys buy it from?

[LoveItHere69]

No of course not man, I was asking about his level of spanish to see if he actually understood why or if he was actually being booted from the table and / or the club.

I fail to understand how you couldn't figure that out.I do not speak any Spanish. But I have been blessed with common sense. Answer: it was the TABLE.

Guess what would happen if you were sitting alone in one of the rooms at New Life for one hour drinking one beer, the other rooms were packed, and then a group of 4 guys walked in? You would be asked to vacate the room and stand in the hallway so they could do a showing for the group of 4 guys. Super easy to figure that out.

Same thing at a disco. Nobody there you can sit anywhere you want. People start coming and spending money and you will be asked to move to tables further away from the dance floor which is the prime disco location to be at.

I guess I just know stuff. I also have a 95% scope solution I should post sometime. Been reading for 3 years and nobody seems to have a good answer for that and I don't even play in that sand box. I do street, brothels, and little bit online, but never bring them to my place.

[Jicks]

Medellin is becoming worse year after year. This guy took revenge on the girl who drugged him. Unbelievable!

https://youtu.be/pVCy9nDst4c?si=5GTVcUVdbIPm0qva

[Nounce]

I used to buy 100 MG tablets from calidad droga near parque barrio but they don't sell it any more. You can try 2 50 MG tabltes It should be much cheaper if that works for you.

[Fun Luvr]

I used to buy 100 MG tablets from calidad droga near parque barrio but they don't sell it any more. Used to be about a buck for one 100 MG tablet. All others have now quoted me $3-4 a tablet which is obviously more than double of what it costs in Asia.

Are there any other places where you guys buy it from?Look in the pharmacy section of Rappi for current prices. Unlike restaurants, I think the prices shown on Rappi pharmacies are the same as you pay at the store. Right now, four 50 mg tablets of brand Genfar is 12,440 COP at Pasteur. Many pharmacies have lesser known brands cheaper. As another poster said, look for two 50 mg rather than one 100 mg.

[LoveItHere69]

Medellin is becoming worse year after year. This guy took revenge on the girl who drugged him. Unbelievable!

https://youtu.be/pVCy9nDst4c?si=5GTVcUVdbIPm0qvaShe was thirst as soon as she entered the room. She got behind him when he was sat down and held his chin trying to pour soda with scope in his mouth and all over his shirt. He was retarded not to kick her out that very second. Personally, I think he drank it willingly. Same as the lie he told that he was looking for a GF rather than a simple screw.

[LoveItHere69]

I used to buy 100 MG tablets from calidad droga near parque barrio but they don't sell it any more. Used to be about a buck for one 100 MG tablet. All others have now quoted me $3-4 a tablet which is obviously more than double of what it costs in Asia.

Are there any other places where you guys buy it from?Cheapest you can find is Drogas Calidad.

Parque de Bolvar, CL. 54 #47-29.

I was buying 20 MG 2 years ago and do not remember the price but this is the cheapest place you will find.

[Exoticspirit]

Never been to Europe, but I am planning to go sometime next year to try those FKK's.

I just posted a report for this.I've been to FKKs in Germany. Reports posted. They are great but pricey. Wouldn't make a trip to Europe just for mongering but if I'm there anyways then I'll drop by to a FKK while I'm there.

[Lofter]

So I'm wrapping up my final night here in Medellin had good times and quite a bit bad ones with the chicas out here. Maybe I'll do a trip report but the one that is the most concerning to me is what just happened the last hour. I had a chica I met last night come through to my Airbnb she was hot to me not a 10 and to some maybe not even a 9. We get to my room and we don't clique or anything but she wasn't pleasant at all nor really tried to be and I didn't get to fully enjoy myself during the sex with her trying to rush me I paid her extra for bbj and to eat her pussy and for both the BJ was not even a full 2 minutes same with the pussy eating (she could've just said it's not on the table) not to mention after a while she's asking me if I'm close to cuming which helps nobody It got to the point where she stopped me from stroking and having me climax by her jacking me off by hand which honestly I feel lucky I even got that. When bringing her down to my front desk I told her in Spanish that she comes off too serious and controlling and all she could say was all that matters is time and money. It kinda sealed the deal on what I've come to grips to with the 3 women from lleras I've spent time with this 5 day trip. Customer service is nothing to them it seems and they have to be dead inside the way they act it's as if I'm stealing a part of their soul. Maybe they don't understand what is needed to have a client comeback who know's. I'm just wondering if you guys have seen this as well I know not ever girl is the same but this generation of chicas out here don't seem to be worth it comepared to my past experiences elsewhere where chicas will at least act like they care going as far as just kicking it with you chatting and vibing for hours and still only charging for the hour agreed upon. Shits crazy.

[Combo]

So I'm wrapping up my final night here in Medellin had good times and quite a bit bad ones with the chicas out here. Maybe I'll do a trip report but the one that is the most concerning to me is what just happened the last hour. I had a chica I met last night come through to my Airbnb she was hot to me not a 10 and to some maybe not even a 9. We get to my room and we don't clique or anything but she wasn't pleasant at all nor really tried to be and I didn't get to fully enjoy myself during the sex with her trying to rush me I paid her extra for bbj and to eat her pussy and .You agreed to pay her extra before the activities started. She already has your promise. She knows you're not going to cause a scene if she does a shitty job. I think a better tactic would be to agree on a payment for basic services. Then if things are looking promising, agree to give her extra for BBJ, et al. Or tell her if she's good, she will get a tip (and only give her that tip if she is legitimately good).

It's the same dynamic as guys who insist on bargaining with a women for all night before they even know how she performs. Then the chica gives bad service and it's too late to change the terms. Or she just says she has to leave after an hour for some made-up emergency.

It's better to try to not reward bad service.

[BlueChange]

I used to buy 100 MG tablets from calidad droga near parque barrio but they don't sell it any more. Used to be about a buck for one 100 MG tablet. All others have now quoted me $3-4 a tablet which is obviously more than double of what it costs in Asia.

Are there any other places where you guys buy it from?Go to the north, Cerca parque belllo super cheap.

But if you want to stay in medellin try the mall in niquia.

[Mr Enternational]

she was hot to me not a 10 and to some maybe not even a 9.Why would it matter if she was a 10 or 9 to somebody else? You are there to fuck who you like, not who someone else may or may not like.


When bringing her down to my front desk I told her in Spanish that she comes off too serious and controlling and all she could say was all that matters is time and money. It kinda sealed the deal on what I've come to grips to with the 3 women from lleras I've spent time with this 5 day trip. Customer service is nothing to them it seems and they have to be dead inside the way they act it's as if I'm stealing a part of their soul. Maybe they don't understand what is needed to have a client comeback who know's.It is Lleras, what do you expect? They have an endless supply of foreigners going there paying them beyond their wildest dreams, while at the same time being afraid to rock the boat. They do not need you to come back because there will be new guys tomorrow falling for the same shit.

Reminds me of when I was in the Navy and they had some ripoff buy on credit stores outside the base. A person would go there and when it was all said and done, they have paid $300 for a $50 stereo. When you are new to the base, it was drilled into you do not go to those scam places. Nevertheless, those places still had an endless supply of sailors going there to get ripped off. Lleras reminds me of that shit. Like a moth to the flame.

You never hear guys that go downtown or to the casas complain about service at the same time paying much less. For some reason guys get caught up on Lleras. And if you speak Spanish there really is no reason to have Lleras training wheels. A good rule of thumb is that if you do not see local guys getting girls from there then you are about to be rippped off. Do local guys go to Lleras to pick up hookers?


I'm just wondering if you guys have seen this as well I know not ever girl is the same but this generation of chicas out here don't seem to be worth it comepared to my past experiences elsewhere where chicas will at least act like they care going as far as just kicking it with you chatting and vibing for hours and still only charging for the hour agreed upon. Shits crazy.Elsewhere where? You can't have experience in one place and expect it to be the same somewhere else. You can not even do that for different venues in the same city. Each place is the boss of its own merits. A good time in Rio does not mean a good time in Medellin, unless you are someone who knows how to make their own fun. At that point it ain't the place, it is the individual.

[Elvis 2008]

So I'm wrapping up my final night here in Medellin had good times and quite a bit bad ones with the chicas out here. Maybe I'll do a trip report but the one that is the most concerning to me is what just happened the last hour. I had a chica I met last night come through to my Airbnb she was hot to me not a 10 and to some maybe not even a 9. We get to my room and we don't clique or anything but she wasn't pleasant at all nor really tried to be and I didn't get to fully enjoy myself during the sex with her trying to rush me I paid her extra for bbj and to eat her pussy and for both the BJ was not even a full 2 minutes same with the pussy eating (she could've just said it's not on the table) not to mention after a while she's asking me if I'm close to cuming which helps nobody It got to the point where she stopped me from stroking and having me climax by her jacking me off by hand which honestly I feel lucky I even got that. When bringing her down to my front desk I told her in Spanish that she comes off too serious and controlling and all she could say was all that matters is time and money. It kinda sealed the deal on what I've come to grips to with the 3 women from lleras I've spent time with this 5 day trip. Customer service is nothing to them it seems and they have to be dead inside the way they act it's as if I'm stealing a part of their soul. Maybe they don't understand what is needed to have a client comeback who know's. I'm just wondering if you guys have seen this as well I know not ever girl is the same but this generation of chicas out here don't seem to be worth it comepared to my past experiences elsewhere where chicas will at least act like they care going as far as just kicking it with you chatting and vibing for hours and still only charging for the hour agreed upon. Shits crazy.Not crazy. It was to be expected. Since 2021, look at what has happened. Many top girls either went back to work after being laid off from Covid, went to Europe or places like Dubai, or got hitched. If you look at demographics, there are fewer 18 year olds coming on the market every year. Then you have the huge flow of Venezuelan women that has slowed to a trickle.

To me, what made Colombia special was never the quality of the P4 P experience, Brazil kicks its ass in that regard, but how cheap it could be and how close to the USA it is.

The other special thing is the top shelf women in the higher classes that blow away most other women. I was in a Central American country and came upon high school students and half the women were obese. You do not usually see that in Colombia. As such, these top women who are lookers are not often as stuck up, obsessed with how hot they are, and their parents keep them from getting cocky. These women are not available for P4 P usually but many will consider dating an American guy even an older one. To me, that is the other part that is special with Colombia.

[KeviKev68]

I was on Seeking for many years until they raised the price of the membership. I don't know how much this increase was but after spending $109 per month when it used to like $69 was enough for me. I had early success in Medellin but there are more and more GPS types on there. One girl I would say she was possibly an 8 wanted $1 k us for CBJ / CFS and said "hell no " and blocked her.

I would like know if anyone has hed any luck with the girls on Instagram and Only Fans. I have met some girls on Instagram but the more followers they have the harder it is to get them. On my next trip I am going to try to hook up with a few OF girls and try meet their friends.

I don't do the Lleras anymore too many kids prancing around there.

[BackInTheCut]

Worldwide, I've shown working girls with a bad attitude the door. Whatever money I've given them, lost in the game. To me it's worth a little extra money to bring an older hot working girl with me to places with line-ups. I tell her what I want and she loves keeping the one or two we pick focused on what they agreed to do. She also fosters willingness by telling them I'm a whale who wants someone to go on trips with (which is true!


So I'm wrapping up my final night here in Medellin had good times and quite a bit bad ones with the chicas out here. Maybe I'll do a trip report but the one that is the most concerning to me is what just happened the last hour. I had a chica I met last night come through to my Airbnb she was hot to me not a 10 and to some maybe not even a 9. We get to my room and we don't clique or anything but she wasn't pleasant at all nor really tried to be and I didn't get to fully enjoy myself during the sex with her trying to rush me I paid her extra for bbj and to eat her pussy and for both the BJ was not even a full 2 minutes same with the pussy eating (she could've just said it's not on the table) not to mention after a while she's asking me if I'm close to cuming which helps nobody It got to the point where she stopped me from stroking and having me climax by her jacking me off by hand which honestly I feel lucky I even got that. When bringing her down to my front desk I told her in Spanish that she comes off too serious and controlling and all she could say was all that matters is time and money. It kinda sealed the deal on what I've come to grips to with the 3 women from lleras I've spent time with this 5 day trip. Customer service is nothing to them it seems and they have to be dead inside the way they act it's as if I'm stealing a part of their soul. Maybe they don't understand what is needed to have a client comeback who know's. I'm just wondering if you guys have seen this as well I know not ever girl is the same but this generation of chicas out here don't seem to be worth it comepared to my past experiences elsewhere where chicas will at least act like they care going as far as just kicking it with you chatting and vibing for hours and still only charging for the hour agreed upon. Shits crazy.

[Mr Enternational]

If you look at demographics, there are fewer 18 year olds coming on the market every year. Where are we able to take a look at those demographics?

[Oterri]

You can try 2 50 MG tabltes It should be much cheaper if that works for you.
Look in the pharmacy section of Rappi for current prices. Unlike restaurants, I think the prices shown on Rappi pharmacies are the same as you pay at the store. Right now, four 50 mg tablets of brand Genfar is 12,440 COP at Pasteur. Many pharmacies have lesser known brands cheaper. As another poster said, look for two 50 mg rather than one 100 mg.
Cheapest you can find is Drogas Calidad.

Parque de Bolvar, CL. 54 #47-29.

I was buying 20 MG 2 years ago and do not remember the price but this is the cheapest place you will find.
Go to the north, Cerca parque belllo super cheap.

But if you want to stay in medellin try the mall in niquia.Thank you Gents. Appreciate the intel.

I have not tried Rappi but may be this would be a better option than going to each pharmacy and be quoted $4 or $5 USD for a 100 MG tablet. I will try the 50 MG route as well.

BlueChange. If you happen to know the name of the shop / mall in Niquia, please do let me know.

[Nil Admirari]

Where are we able to take a look at those demographics? Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
If you look at demographics, there are fewer 18 year olds coming on the market every year.

According to the World Bank, around 2010 the fertility rate in Colombia dropped below the replacement level of 2.1 births per women and has continued to decline since then (to 1.64 births per women in 2023). Leaving aside the net effects of emigration/immigration, beginning around 2028 this should translate into a declining number of chicas turning 18 (and presumably as well in the numbers making their legal debut in Parque Lleras and Plaza Botero). There may already be a decline in the catering business for quinceañeras celebrations.

[Hobo3]

This is where simps, losers and desperate are all congregating. Every 6 months the prices go up. Every 6 months, the women get more jaded and more mechanical. We are officially reaching a turning point. 400 k for 10 minutes of mechanical grumpy sex from a girl who is trying to get out of your apartment as soon as possible to find the next John is not worth it. If you add up travel costs and the ridiculous Airbnb prices in the city, you can no longer justify it. The women here keep rising prices just because one bozo clown from Germany is willing to pay it. This is destroying the place for everybody. I would never in 1 million years pay 400 k for one of these girls, especially if she has gotten surgeries. The women with fake tits, fake lips and a bucket of make up on will literally give you the worst service possible!

[Nounce]

all she could say was all that matters is time and moneyIt's either one shot or one hour. It sounds like she spent less than that with you. You could tell her to do her job or you would get rid of her and she would be paid according to the amount of time she stayed. If she stayed for 30 minutes, she would be paid half. She should understand this language and may behave.

I was there after dinner on Saturday. There weren't that many girls so I decided to stick around to see if there would be more later. It did not take long for me to meet one and it was her second night working. After we got back to my apartment, she would not go to shower. She was saying something about not wanting to get wet and it was cold. I told her it's hot shower, then she went right away. This girl still behaves like a normal girl and everything is cool. She wasn't in a rush to leave, and still cuddled with me when I was waiting for her to leave. She asked if I could give her 100 mil more so she didn't need to go back to work. I did not want to have a new girl to stay overnight but I gave her the extra to help her out.

I think it is not unusual for Lleras workers to want to get back to the park after session. Another option you have is to get the number and have a date before they go to work. If you have a date at 7 PM, then they won't be hurry to leave because it would be too early. If the girl is as hot as you described, she does not need to work very hard to get customer. Based on my experience, almost all of them don't provide BBBJ, and some would not even kiss.

[Chicago85]

I was on Seeking for many years until they raised the price of the membership. I don't know how much this increase was but after spending $109 per month when it used to like $69 was enough for me. I had early success in Medellin but there are more and more GPS types on there. One girl I would say she was possibly an 8 wanted $1 k us for CBJ / CFS and said "hell no " and blocked her.

I would like know if anyone has hed any luck with the girls on Instagram and Only Fans. I have met some girls on Instagram but the more followers they have the harder it is to get them. On my next trip I am going to try to hook up with a few OF girls and try meet their friends. This was my experience as well. Seeking was damn good from 2013-2018 or so, with some girls legitimately wanting a relationship. I had some success on IG, albeit limited and with A LOT of work, from 2016-2020, knocking off 10-12 girls who had 100 k plus followers. Unfortunately those same girls started to flaunt a moneyed lifestyle and now every girl with more than 5 k followers thinks she's a model. Uff.

[Elvis 2008]

Where are we able to take a look at those demographics?LOL. Believe it or not, the CIA does the best job with them.

This is Colombia: https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/static/9da724c170c7254ab99c25d15e44a980/60be0/co_popgraph2024.jpg.

25 to 34 is the demographic with the most women in Colombia.

First thing that happens when women move off the farm and into the city is women quit having kids which were free labor and in the city are an expense. That move happened in Colombia about 20 years ago, but women are still having a decent number of kids. It is just less of them.

Most of the world has switched off of 3rd world demographics. Only in Africa do you see a lot of 3rd world demographics. Uganda is an example of 3rd world demographics where the young way outnumber the elderly: https://www.indexmundi.com/uganda/age_structure.html.

Last two countries in South America with 3rd world demographics were Paraguay and Bolivia, the two poorest big countries, but they flipped about ten years ago.

[Mr Enternational]

The women with fake tits, fake lips and a bucket of make up on will literally give you the worst service possible!But guys want to fuck those women because those are the ones they see on Instagram with a lot of followers. Then more girls want to do that because those are the girls on Instagram with the most followers. Seems to be all about the followers my man. LOL. Makes me glad to be as old as I am.

[JayWonEm]

I was looking at an MDE visit a couple of months ago and took the plunge (travel time, jet lag, etc.) to go to Bangkok instead. Now that I am back in the relative desert of southern Florida I am already in need of a new destination with reliable, affordable sexual outlets. MDE seems like an obvious choice, but reading this forum if you don't get drugged or robbed or pick up an underage girl you're likely to get lousy service from a jaded hooker with fake tits looking for gringo money with as little work as possible.

I am over 70, speak fairly decent Spanish, and have a lot of international experience, including Cartagena, Lima, and Mexico. I don't mind cruising for street or bar / club pick-ups, but I have had good success with mileroticos using their review function, and reading a local Colombian review board (really good for my Spanish vocabulary LOL). If I find a girl I like I tend to temporary monogamy, so I don't need a thousand choices. I also want to go somewhere with casas, brothels, massage parlors, or whatever you call it, where I know I can go and get reliable service, including BBBJ.

A 3 1/2 hour non-stop flight from southern FL puts MDE close to the limit for quick hobby travel. Other than distance I want to go somewhere with good food and enough to do to stay entertained when my dick isn't hard. So. Does MDE fit the bill? Can I go and count on getting my needs met at a reasonable price with a variety of options? If not MDE, where? Bogota? Cali? I would try Baranquilla, but if it's as hot as Cartagena I'm ruling it out.

MDE? If not, where?

[John Clayton]

I was looking at an MDE visit a couple of months ago ...?I'm in my late 70's and wouldn't hesitate to go back. Of course, the weather is the main reason to leave south Florida in September. Medellin has spectacular geography compared to South Florida. The Metro system is incredibly good -- you could spend a couple of days just riding the cable cars up into the different hillside neighborhoods. I like the natural conviviality of the metrocable cars. Take the metrocable out to Parque Arvi just for the ride. Walk around Poblado. Spend a day just hanging around Plaza Botero etc. The city is alive with attractive young people. Only downside for me is that there is no water / beach.

[Mr Enternational]

I was looking at an MDE visit a couple of months ago and took the plunge (travel time, jet lag, etc.) to go to Bangkok instead. Now that I am back in the relative desert of southern Florida I am already in need of a new destination with reliable, affordable sexual outlets. MDE seems like an obvious choice,If you are looking to monger then it is the obvious choice. If you had come down to Pattaya when you were over here in Asia, then you would not have even needed to make a choice. You would have still been here.


I would try Baranquilla, but if it's as hot as Cartagena I'm ruling it out.Barranquilla is not as hot as Cartagena, but it is the obvious choice and my go-to for non-hookers. I like hot though.

[Mechanic88]

I was looking at an MDE visit a couple of months ago and took the plunge (travel time, jet lag, etc.) to go to Bangkok instead. Now that I am back in the relative desert of southern Florida I am already in need of a new destination with reliable, affordable sexual outlets. MDE seems like an obvious choice, but reading this forum if you don't get drugged or robbed or pick up an underage girl you're likely to get lousy service from a jaded hooker with fake tits looking for gringo money with as little work as possible.

I am over 70, speak fairly decent Spanish, and have a lot of international experience, including Cartagena, Lima, and Mexico. I don't mind cruising for street or bar / club pick-ups, but I have had good success with mileroticos using their review function, and reading a local Colombian review board (really good for my Spanish vocabulary LOL). If I find a girl I like I tend to temporary monogamy, so I don't need a thousand choices. I also want to go somewhere with casas, brothels, massage parlors, or whatever you call it, where I know I can go and get reliable service, including BBBJ.

A 3 1/2 hour non-stop flight from southern FL puts MDE close to the limit for quick hobby travel. Other than distance I want to go somewhere with good food and enough to do to stay entertained when my dick isn't hard. So. Does MDE fit the bill? Can I go and count on getting my needs met at a reasonable price with a variety of options? If not MDE, where? Bogota? Cali? I would try Baranquilla, but if it's as hot as Cartagena I'm ruling it out.

MDE? If not, where?Everyone should go to MDE at least once in their life. There's a lot to do in Medellin that isn't Mongering. Colombian food in my opinion is bland, but there are many very nice restaurants with really good food.

[JayWonEm]

If you are looking to monger then it is the obvious choice. If you had come down to Pattaya when you were over here in Asia, then you would not have even needed to make a choice. You would have still been here.TBH, I was already sold on Bangkok. I had planned 3 nights in Pattaya and just ran out of gas after my Siem Reap trip, didn't want to travel and change hotels again, and just "settled" for a few extra days with my bar girl and the blowjob bars.

[Elvis 2008]

I was looking at an MDE visit a couple of months ago and took the plunge (travel time, jet lag, etc.) to go to Bangkok instead. Now that I am back in the relative desert of southern Florida I am already in need of a new destination with reliable, affordable sexual outlets. MDE seems like an obvious choice, but reading this forum if you don't get drugged or robbed or pick up an underage girl you're likely to get lousy service from a jaded hooker with fake tits looking for gringo money with as little work as possible.

I am over 70, speak fairly decent Spanish, and have a lot of international experience, including Cartagena, Lima, and Mexico. I don't mind cruising for street or bar / club pick-ups, but I have had good success with mileroticos using their review function, and reading a local Colombian review board (really good for my Spanish vocabulary LOL). If I find a girl I like I tend to temporary monogamy, so I don't need a thousand choices. I also want to go somewhere with casas, brothels, massage parlors, or whatever you call it, where I know I can go and get reliable service, including BBBJ.If you have been to Lima, you kind of know what Bogota weather is like. It is not going to have the seasonal variation like Lima, but you get 70 degree highs, mid 50's lows, the frequent quick rain shower, but the big issue with me with Bogota has been the pollution which gets my sinuses and the altitude. MDE is 10 degrees warmer than Bogota. Cali is about 10 degrees warmer than MDE and CTG and BAQ are hotter than Cali.

As far as food goes, Colombia is not Lima. I have gone from saying the food in Colombia sucks to finding places with good food and sticking mostly with them and on occasion venturing out. Given all the available ingredients, Colombia should be a foodie Mecca and it is not but it is getting slowly better.

With women, if you black women or women with curves, you should consider Cali. You are not going to find many spinners there though. BAQ has beautiful women but it is hot, a boring city except for Carnivale, and the P4 P scene is not much. For the most part, guys in the P4 P scene should opt for MDE or Bogota.

Thing is I like Medellin more in almost every way except for the women. It is more beautiful, at a lower altitude, and it always seems like there is something going on. The women in MDE are slightly more attractive, but they are more snobby, more materialistic, and more annoying. Yes, there are way more instances of getting robbed and drugged in MDE than other places but to me, that is like getting hit by a bus. It can happen anywhere. I just would not let it dominate my thinking.

What is likely to happen is you will be ripped off with your time, the women will give less than stellar service, or be unrealistic about a price, and I think that is more common in MDE. I came at it from being a sugar daddy looking for a sugar baby. You had the women who were just strict P4P, but the women interested in a long term sugar relationship in Bogota were more traditional. They would give you a back rub without asking, fix a plate for you at the buffet before they fixed one for themselves ETC whereas I never had a MDE woman do anything like that.

The women in Medellin were more American like but without the obligations American men have to provide. One gal asked me for a plane ticket which was about $100, and I asked, "And what am I going to get in return? Why would I do that for you?" This was like a radical concept for her. If I do something nice for you, it is not because I am so honored to be in your presence, it is because I want you to appreciate it and want you to reciprocate the desire to make me happy. Time and again, I would find the women think, "I am just so fucking great men just throw money at me", and I would dump them.

In Bogota, I did not see this attitude, and it is known throughout the country how selfish the Paisa (Medellin) women are. So while you may give up something looks wise with Bogota, you are going to get friendlier, more realistic, and IMO better performing women.

[Mr Enternational]

In Bogota, I did not see this attitude, and it is known throughout the country how selfish the Paisa (Medellin) women are. So while you may give up something looks wise with Bogota, you are going to get friendlier, more realistic, and IMO better performing women.Excellent post. Explains why I have never really been a Medellin guy.

[Toastmonger69]

Jay, I had my first time in MDE about a month ago and I had a great time. Granted I'm a little younger than you in my early 40's but I think you can still enjoy your time.

1. Stay in an Airbnb in El Poblado that has solid security if you are going to bring girls back. Ones where they check for ID when the girl comes and will ask you to either walk down with her or text that all is good. Just search the reviews for the word "security" and "guest friendly". Bring a cheap phone you can replace and don't load it with finance apps / saved passwords, don't carry all your cash or debit and credit cards at once. Use Uber (or Indrive for the girls). Don't go to questionable areas at night. Would you hang around seedy parts of Miami gardens or Jacksonville at night? You wouldn't- so don't hang around botero or centro at night unless it is door to door going to bar ejuctiva. The only problem I had in my 1 week stay was being stopped in an uber by a cop in El Poblado and searched "for drugs" or probably underaged girls. He was looking for $$ didn't find anything and I was on my way. It was literally the block between interplaza mall and energy living. This takes care of safety.

2. There are so many options for women there. If there was an app like Thai Friendly there it would rival Thailand but there isn't.

--The Casas are decent- I went to Loutron and Sexi Amgias and was happy. Someone else mentioned newlife was good too. I will try it next time I'm there.

--Joya Massage was good. I enjoyed a nice massage but the extras can be pricey. Explore it. There are probably others like it.

--You could get another Airbnb for sex with security in the lobby near parque lecheras and have no valuables there so that you don't bring the girl back to where you sleep.

--You could use seeking.com to find women but this will take some time and effort and interviewing. However others who like the site are excited when they find a match.

--Plaza Botero Centro- Cheap Tijuana style callejon mongering here with mostly Venezuelans. Cheap short time sex.

I am Jealous of you because I live in So. Cal and it takes me 9 hours to get to MDE where as you can get there 3 hours from Miami with plenty cheap flight availability.

3. Also visit places where women aren't working girls per say like Hooters, Provenza, grocery stores, and gyms if you like eye candy. I used a website where you can hire a local to show you around and it cost like $10 an hour and I had a private tour with a 20 something year old girl. The tour was great but I also treated it like a first date and she ended up in my bed at the end of the tour. I ended up spending 3 days with her being my vacation GF and having BBFSCIM (only did it because she wasn't a working girl). She did ask me for 600 k (around $150) after I had left MDE but I didn't mind sending her cash. About 2 weeks after she asked for a mil but I told her I couldn't send it, we still chat. You can be nice but always draw a line. Ill probably see her again if / when I go back.

4. Other suggestions- Have you tried the European FKK Sauna clubs? It might be more your vibe with a health club feel.

Sharks near FRA is currently top notch with the most variety. Globe Zurich is good but expensive- though fun for sexual deviants like me who don't mind having a BJ or 3 some right there on the spot.

Wellcum in Austria is a little out the way in the corner between Italy and Austria but does have an onsite hotel, great food and excellent facilities. You won't find the top talent there but it is cheaper and has an onsite hotel.

You could also try Brazil. I have not been yet but I have seen excellent reviews for Sao Palo and Rio.


TBH, I was already sold on Bangkok. I had planned 3 nights in Pattaya and just ran out of gas after my Siem Reap trip, didn't want to travel and change hotels again, and just "settled" for a few extra days with my bar girl and the blowjob bars.

[Turgid]

........The women in Medellin were more American like but without the obligations American men have to provide. One gal asked me for a plane ticket which was about $100, and I asked, "And what am I going to get in return? Why would I do that for you?" This was like a radical concept for her. If I do something nice for you, it is not because I am so honored to be in your presence, it is because I want you to appreciate it and want you to reciprocate the desire to make me happy. Time and again, I would find the women think, "I am just so fucking great men just throw money at me".......In the US men generally treat hot women like those women are doing them a favor by just being in their presence so the women have gotten swell headed. However, Colombian men make their women feel like these women are privileged to be with them. How did the MDE women become so conceited then?

[The Cane]

In the US men generally treat hot women like those women are doing them a favor by just being in their presence so the women have gotten swell headed. However, Colombian men do not treat women like that. How did the MDE women become so conceited then?Right, and in the USA it contributes to the concept of "getting lucky". I mean, even a wife will talk to her husband about him "getting lucky" (getting some pussy) that night. An American man needs to "get lucky" with his own wife in order to "get some". Fuck that noise! They're doing you a favor to even be in your presence, and now you have to be "lucky" to get some. I've never been able to suck up to and kiss any woman's ass like that, and never will. Better off being single.

[JayWonEm]

Jay, I had my first time in MDE about a month ago and I had a great time. Granted I'm a little younger than you in my early 40's but I think you can still enjoy your time.

1. Stay in an Airbnb in El Poblado that has solid security if you are going to bring girls back. Ones where they check for ID when the girl comes and will ask you to either walk down with her or text that all is good. Just search the reviews for the word "security" and "guest friendly". Bring a cheap phone you can replace and don't load it with finance apps / saved passwords, don't carry all your cash or debit and credit cards at once. Use Uber (or Indrive for the girls). Don't go to questionable areas at night. Would you hang around seedy parts of Miami gardens or Jacksonville at night? You wouldn't- so don't hang around botero or centro at night unless it is door to door going to bar ejuctiva. The only problem I had in my 1 week stay was being stopped in an uber by a cop in El Poblado and searched "for drugs" or probably underaged girls. He was looking for $$ didn't find anything and I was on my way. It was literally the block between interplaza mall and energy living. This takes care of safety.

2. There are so many options for women there. If there was an app like Thai Friendly there it would rival Thailand but there isn't.

--The Casas are decent- I went to Loutron and Sexi Amgias and was happy. Someone else mentioned newlife was good too. I will try it next time I'm there.

--Joya Massage was good. I enjoyed a nice massage but the extras can be pricey. Explore it. There are probably others like it.

--You could get another Airbnb for sex with security in the lobby near parque lecheras and have no valuables there so that you don't bring the girl back to where you sleep.

--You could use seeking.com to find women but this will take some time and effort and interviewing. However others who like the site are excited when they find a match.

--Plaza Botero Centro- Cheap Tijuana style callejon mongering here with mostly Venezuelans. Cheap short time sex.

I am Jealous of you because I live in So. Cal and it takes me 9 hours to get to MDE where as you can get there 3 hours from Miami with plenty cheap flight availability.

3. Also visit places where women aren't working girls per say like Hooters, Provenza, grocery stores, and gyms if you like eye candy. I used a website where you can hire a local to show you around and it cost like $10 an hour and I had a private tour with a 20 something year old girl. The tour was great but I also treated it like a first date and she ended up in my bed at the end of the tour. I ended up spending 3 days with her being my vacation GF and having BBFSCIM (only did it because she wasn't a working girl). She did ask me for 600 k (around $150) after I had left MDE but I didn't mind sending her cash. About 2 weeks after she asked for a mil but I told her I couldn't send it, we still chat. You can be nice but always draw a line. Ill probably see her again if / when I go back.

4. Other suggestions- Have you tried the European FKK Sauna clubs? It might be more your vibe with a health club feel.

Sharks near FRA is currently top notch with the most variety. Globe Zurich is good but expensive- though fun for sexual deviants like me who don't mind having a BJ or 3 some right there on the spot.

Wellcum in Austria is a little out the way in the corner between Italy and Austria but does have an onsite hotel, great food and excellent facilities. You won't find the top talent there but it is cheaper and has an onsite hotel.

You could also try Brazil. I have not been yet but I have seen excellent reviews for Sao Palo and Rio.Thanks to all for the advice. As a general comment, I am looking for locations with direct flights of reasonable duration (MDE is close to the limit) within one time zone that can be an easy 3-4 day trip. Anything longer than that is a "long trip" that I do once or twice a year. I have a lot of hours invested in Duolingo Spanish, and the only time I get to use it for more than ordering a meal is with girls in Spanish-speaking countries. I have finally gotten to the point where it is more of an opportunity than a barrier, so I have a strong preference for Central and South American countries.

As to FKKs, I went to Club Artemis in Berlin a year or so ago, and although I had a great time I felt like it was a one-time adventure, and with four girls for three rounds it ended up being a fairly expensive evening. I was also surprised by the lousy attitude and lack of any flirtation by almost all of the girls. Maybe they have their regulars, but it didn't seem to be just me. The whole environment was unique (for me at least) and I certainly liked the ability to look at more than 50 semi-naked women and just pick one to take to a room. Subtle difference, but I don't really like "line-ups", where I feel like I am rejecting all the girls but one (or two).

Despite all the grumbling on here I will probably take the plunge and try MDE. Even in Bangkok I picked one bar girl and we did 5 overnights, and that seems to be my style, so I just need one good one, and a reliable casa or two where I know I can bust a nut at an affordable price. Now, if only they opened a blowjob bar LOL.

[YounGun3393]

3. Also visit places where women aren't working girls per say like Hooters, Provenza, grocery stores, and gyms if you like eye candy. I used a website where you can hire a local to show you around and it cost like $10 an hour and I had a private tour with a 20 something year old girl. The tour was great but I also treated it like a first date and she ended up in my bed at the end of the tour. I ended up spending 3 days with her being my vacation GF and having BBFSCIM (only did it because she wasn't a working girl). She did ask me for 600 k (around $150) after I had left MDE but I didn't mind sending her cash. About 2 weeks after she asked for a mil but I told her I couldn't send it, we still chat. You can be nice but always draw a line. Ill probably see her again if / when I go back.

4. Other suggestions- Have you tried the European FKK Sauna clubs? It might be more your vibe with a health club feel.

Sharks near FRA is currently top notch with the most variety. Globe Zurich is good but expensive- though fun for sexual deviants like me who don't mind having a BJ or 3 some right there on the spot.

Wellcum in Austria is a little out the way in the corner between Italy and Austria but does have an onsite hotel, great food and excellent facilities. You won't find the top talent there but it is cheaper and has an onsite hotel.

You could also try Brazil. I have not been yet but I have seen excellent reviews for Sao Palo and Rio.Can you PM me the website with the tour guides. This sounds amazing.

I tried Sharks FKK. It was great. Beautiful European woman + free food + sauna. Wonderful experience. Would like to try it one more time. I only indulged 2 times bc it can be tough to get there and it was a detour for me.

[Mr Enternational]

Subtle difference, but I don't really like "line-ups", where I feel like I am rejecting all the girls but one (or two).Welcome to a woman's world. They get used to rejecting guys the same as guys get used to being rejected.

[Toastmonger69]

I haven't been to Artemis since 2014. I heard it went down the tubes and then just recently improved. Sharks is much better.

I forgot to mention the "strip clubs" in MDE:

Barra Ejecutiva- take uber in and out of there as it is in el centro. Don't walk around El centro at night. I had a good time there for 100 k-200 k COP FS.

Fase 2- haven't been heard its great.

La Isla- haven't been heard its expensive and can be good sometimes.


Thanks to all for the advice. As a general comment, I am looking for locations with direct flights of reasonable duration (MDE is close to the limit) within one time zone that can be an easy 3-4 day trip. Anything longer than that is a "long trip" that I do once or twice a year. I have a lot of hours invested in Duolingo Spanish, and the only time I get to use it for more than ordering a meal is with girls in Spanish-speaking countries. I have finally gotten to the point where it is more of an opportunity than a barrier, so I have a strong preference for Central and South American countries.

As to FKKs, I went to Club Artemis in Berlin a year or so ago, and although I had a great time I felt like it was a one-time adventure, and with four girls for three rounds it ended up being a fairly expensive evening. I was also surprised by the lousy attitude and lack of any flirtation by almost all of the girls. Maybe they have their regulars, but it didn't seem to be just me. The whole environment was unique (for me at least) and I certainly liked the ability to look at more than 50 semi-naked women and just pick one to take to a room. Subtle difference, but I don't really like "line-ups", where I feel like I am rejecting all the girls but one (or two)..

[Toastmonger69]

The name is already in the post, just be a little creative and use google.


Can you PM me the website with the tour guides. This sounds amazing.

I tried Sharks FKK. It was great. Beautiful European woman + free food + sauna. Wonderful experience. Would like to try it one more time. I only indulged 2 times bc it can be tough to get there and it was a detour for me.

[SlapShot10]

I had a private tour with a 20 something year old girl. The tour was great but I also treated it like a first date and she ended up in my bed at the end of the tour. I ended up spending 3 days with her being my vacation GF and having BBFSCIM (only did it because she wasn't a working girl). She did ask me for 600 k (around $150) after I had left MDE but I didn't mind sending her cash. About 2 weeks after she asked for a mil but I told her I couldn't send it, we still chat.This is the definition of a working girl, albeit a more clever and entrepreneurial version. In the long-run, she'll probably end up marrying a gringo and be well taken care of. She has the right approach, versus the egotistical unionized snakes that don't provide anything but looks and a hole.

[Mr Enternational]

This is the definition of a working girl, albeit a more clever and entrepreneurial version. I agree. If not, then she would not have asked him for shit. And if she did, and he gave it to her, then she would have not come asking for an even higher amount soon after finding out he would be willing to send something.

[Knowledge]

This strategy was known as a "courtesan" or an "escort." Those quaint euphemisms died with the advent of the Internet and the ability to compare notes about cost and performance. Believe it or not, girls could routinely work conventions and hotel lobbies and collect serious money for sitting through dinners and listening to guys complain about their wives and family life. I see remaining vestiges of it on dating apps like Raya and Hinge, where some women go after guys who don't believe they deserve to have sex.


This is the definition of a working girl, albeit a more clever and entrepreneurial version. In the long-run, she'll probably end up marrying a gringo and be well taken care of. She has the right approach, versus the egotistical unionized snakes that don't provide anything but looks and a hole.

[Toastmonger69]

I feel like if she was a working girl she would have asked me for $$$ on the spot before I left MDE. She has her own family business, a small shop and she advertises it on whatsapp. Other girls who work regularly advertise themselves (she does not), seems to me like she was just a chcia who wanted extra cash rather than a pro such as the ones in parque de lecheras. After being in this hobby for over 20 yrs, can get a read on people.


This is the definition of a working girl, albeit a more clever and entrepreneurial version. In the long-run, she'll probably end up marrying a gringo and be well taken care of. She has the right approach, versus the egotistical unionized snakes that don't provide anything but looks and a hole.

[Combo]

I feel like if she was a working girl she would have asked me for $$$ on the spot before I left MDE. She has her own family business, a small shop and she advertises it on whatsapp. Other girls who work regularly advertise themselves (she does not), seems to me like she was just a chcia who wanted extra cash rather than a pro such as the ones in parque de lecheras. After being in this hobby for over 20 yrs, can get a read on people.She's what many call a "semi-pro".

[CatBert55]

It's my opinion that pretty much any unmarried woman in MDE between the ages of 20 to 50 will have sex for money. It's just a matter of finding the price and for many, the price is way out of our price range. It has less to do with sexual morals and more to do with the fact that a Colombiana hates to pass up a good side hustle.

[Turgid]

Right, and in the USA it contributes to the concept of "getting lucky". I mean, even a wife will talk to her husband about him "getting lucky" (getting some pussy) that night. An American man needs to "get lucky" with his own wife in order to "get some". Fuck that noise! They're doing you a favor to even be in your presence, and now you have to be "lucky" to get some. I've never been able to suck up to and kiss any woman's ass like that, and never will. Better off being single.When I used to visit German FKKs prior to 2020 for EUR 50 I used to get lucky with girls much hotter than those in the US for whom I would have had to jump through onerous hoops to get lucky with.

[Combo]

It's my opinion that pretty much any unmarried woman in MDE between the ages of 20 to 50 will have sex for money. It's just a matter of finding the price and for many, the price is way out of our price range. It has less to do with sexual morals and more to do with the fact that a Colombiana hates to pass up a good side hustle.Plenty that wouldn't. There are plenty of nice, decent, non-slutty women in MDE, but us foreigners generally don't meet them.

That said, I guess if it was some astronomical sum, just about all would. Regardless of country. I think there's some Winston Churchill quote to that effect.

[ElSexoChino7]

3. Also visit places where women aren't working girls per say like Hooters, Provenza, grocery stores, and gyms if you like eye candy. I went to that Hooters nearby Provenza with another ISG member last year to watch an NBA game on a weekday night and I can guarantee you almost all the servers working there including the bartender are stunners. I can only imagine what their weekends look like. I will definitely hit that place again next time I come back to Medellin and get at least one of the girls Whatsapp.

Approaching girls in the gym would be a terrible idea. Maybe you can try your luck and let us know how it goes.

[Toastmonger69]

Gym is eye candy only. I doubt anyone tries to pickup women at the gym. Its actually the other way around they hit on you in the gym.


I went to that Hooters nearby Provenza with another ISG member last year to watch an NBA game on a weekday night and I can guarantee you almost all the servers working there including the bartender are stunners. I can only imagine what their weekends look like. I will definitely hit that place again next time I come back to Medellin and get at least one of the girls Whatsapp.

Approaching girls in the gym would be a terrible idea. Maybe you can try your luck and let us know how it goes.

[Elvis 2008]

However, Colombian men make their women feel like these women are privileged to be with them. How did the MDE women become so conceited then?That is a good question, and I think this is why. https://www.britannica.com/topic/How-Rich-Was-Pablo-Escobar

Pablo Escobar was one of the wealthiest individuals in the world during his time, with an estimated net worth of around $25 billion. Escobar's wealth was primarily amassed through his leadership of the Medellin cartel, which dominated the cocaine trade in the 1980's. At its peak, the cartel was earning approximately $420 million a week. This staggering income allowed Escobar to indulge in a lavish lifestyle, complete with private planes, luxurious homes, and extravagant parties. His financial power was so immense that he once offered to pay off Colombia's national debt of $10 billion in exchange for immunity from extradition.

And while Escobar is gone, the drug trade is alive and well in Colombia. So the reason Paisas are so materialistic IMO is the men there had / have money to spoil them.

As for why the men make the women feel lucky to be with them, Colombian women have little recourse in using the judicial system for child support, divorce ETC. And even solid rape charges are often blown off. So Colombian women have to look to men to protect them versus government.

[Manizales911]

It's my opinion that pretty much any unmarried woman in MDE between the ages of 20 to 50 will have sex for money. It's just a matter of finding the price and for many, the price is way out of our price range. It has less to do with sexual morals and more to do with the fact that a Colombiana hates to pass up a good side hustle.I live here full time and can tell you that a large majority of the "unmarried" women that you would meet here would be repulsed by an offer, even a generous offer, to PFP. You obviously don't live here because you would know that what you posted is incorrect.

[Elvis 2008]

I used a website where you can hire a local to show you around and it cost like $10 an hour and I had a private tour with a 20 something year old girl. The tour was great but I also treated it like a first date and she ended up in my bed at the end of the tour. I ended up spending 3 days with her being my vacation GF and having BBFSCIM (only did it because she wasn't a working girl). She did ask me for 600 k (around $150) after I had left MDE but I didn't mind sending her cash. About 2 weeks after she asked for a mil but I told her I couldn't send it, we still chat.I have been listening to Pearl Davis on youtube.com and she is trying to found out how many American women have done sex work. She estimates it is 20%, and I think if that is right, 60% wish they could and do not because they are uncomfortable and / or would have no demand, and then you have 20% that are truly morally opposed.

As for giving her money when you are not there, all you are doing is setting yourself up in the image of an ATM machine. Yeah, I know you are a nice guy sympathetic to helping out a poorer third world girl who has needs but as soon as she gets the money, you are forgotten. Thing is I doled out a $1000 a month to seven different women during the pandemic thinking it would yield great results, and part of it was out of sympathy as Colombians were locked in their homes at that time.

When I went down to Colombia after the pandemic was done, all the women showed up, which was not usual for Colombian women, and from a purely sexual POV, it was worth it, but I got a string of different attitudes from the women. Many wanted more for doing nothing. One thought that meant I was her BF, and even the women who were just P4 P demanded more and more so much so that I got annoyed with them and never saw them again.

If a woman really likes you, she is going to show how great she can be without asking for money. The only reason then to send money is if you want to be seen as an ATM and reserve your space in line which is pretty crazy given the choices you have once you get to Colombia.

[Medclubber]

I live here full time and can tell you that a large majority of the "unmarried" women that you would meet here would be repulsed by an offer, even a generous offer, to PFP. You obviously don't live here because you would know that what you posted is incorrect.I currently live fulltime in MDE too and I would argue that it highly depends on the barrio / family the girl comes from. I'd say there's 70% chance that a girl from a barrio popular would doe PFP, maybe even higher. But if she's from a better area the chances go down, morality DOES become a thing and I'd say chances are definitely below 50% that she'll go for it. People from better than average families look down on prepagos, pretty much like in the Western world and will be offended by an offer.

[Manizales911]

I currently live fulltime in MDE too and I would argue that it highly depends on the barrio / family the girl comes from. I'd say there's 70% chance that a girl from a barrio popular would doe PFP, maybe even higher. But if she's from a better area the chances go down, morality DOES become a thing and I'd say chances are definitely below 50% that she'll go for it. People from better than average families look down on prepagos, pretty much like in the Western world and will be offended by an offer.We'll have to agree to disagree. I live in a working class barrio Santa Lucia where there are almost zero gringos and I can guarantee you that 90% or more of the girls here would not have sex for money.

[Turgid]

Gym is eye candy only. I doubt anyone tries to pickup women at the gym. Its actually the other way around they hit on you in the gym.I'm hitting the gym next time I'm in Colombia.

[Mr Enternational]

We'll have to agree to disagree. I live in a working class barrio Santa Lucia where there are almost zero gringos and I can guarantee you that 90% or more of the girls here would not have sex for money.Mongers get in too deep. Go hang around normal people instead of hookers and you should realize everyone is not apt to be a hooker. There are a minute number of chicks doing this in comparison to the general population. But if you only go to places where there are hookers, going on websites that have hookers, out looking for hookers, then it gets in your brain that everyone is or wants to be a hooker.

[KeviKev68]

That is a good question, and I think this is why. https://www.britannica.com/topic/How-Rich-Was-Pablo-Escobar

Pablo Escobar was one of the wealthiest individuals in the world during his time, with an estimated net worth of around $25 billion. Escobar's wealth was primarily amassed through his leadership of the Medellin cartel, which dominated the cocaine trade in the 1980's. At its peak, the cartel was earning approximately $420 million a week. This staggering income allowed Escobar to indulge in a lavish lifestyle, complete with private planes, luxurious homes, and extravagant parties. His financial power was so immense that he once offered to pay off Colombia's national debt of $10 billion in exchange for immunity from extradition.

And while Escobar is gone, the drug trade is alive and well in Colombia. So the reason Paisas are so materialistic IMO is the men there had / have money to spoil them.

As for why the men make the women feel lucky to be with them, Colombian women have little recourse in using the judicial system for child support, divorce ETC. And even solid rape charges are often blown off. So Colombian women have to look to men to protect them versus government.I have also heard from a local that many girls have to "put out" to get a job and to hold it.

[JayWonEm]

We'll have to agree to disagree. I live in a working class barrio Santa Lucia where there are almost zero gringos and I can guarantee you that 90% or more of the girls here would not have sex for money.You know the old joke about what happens if you walk up to 100 women and ask them for a blowjob? You get your face slapped 99 times.

Seriously, if you have the game to hit on true civvies the money is probably secondary, but I am sure a lot of P4 P girls have straight jobs, so if you make eye contact with a pretty waitress or a girl in a coffee shop or in the gym, she seems receptive, and you get her number, who knows? Seems like there are better options, but some like the hunt. To each their own, as long as they are respectful of the girls who really are civvies and don't act like pests or worse.

[Medclubber]

We'll have to agree to disagree. I live in a working class barrio Santa Lucia where there are almost zero gringos and I can guarantee you that 90% or more of the girls here would not have sex for money.Haha yeah it's of course impossible to get a real number. But I'm basing my estimates on what I hear from Colombians I've gotten to know over time, both women and guys and for example if you're drinking a beer with a guy from for example Manrique, he'll surely tell you that pretty much all of the girls he knows from school and still live there, are prepagos now. But I also know several women from better areas and they really look down on prepagos, it's really a class thing in Colombia, much more than in most western countries nowadays.

[Medclubber]

I'm hitting the gym next time I'm in Colombia.I've trained a while at bodytech and while I've seen some of the hottest women there with incredible bodies, I personally never felt at ease to bring up the subject of PFP. Thing is if you meet a random girl in the street in Medellin, chances are you'll not see her again any time soon, so who cares. But these women train every day at the gym, LOL, so you'll keep running into them. So for me personally gyms like that surely have eye candy but are not the perfect place to find PFP. But to each their own of course.

[Mechanic88]

I've trained a while at bodytech and while I've seen some of the hottest women there with incredible bodies, I personally never felt at ease to bring up the subject of PFP. Thing is if you meet a random girl in the street in Medellin, chances are you'll not see her again any time soon, so who cares. But these women train every day at the gym, LOL, so you'll keep running into them. So for me personally gyms like that surely have eye candy but are not the perfect place to find PFP. But to each their own of course.Do you do collision repair? The bodytech made me LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

I've trained a while at bodytech and while I've seen some of the hottest women there with incredible bodies, I personally never felt at ease to bring up the subject of PFP.What is wrong with approaching a woman on a normal basis? Why is it that P4P is what runs through folks' minds when seeing a woman?

[Seshomeru1]

Been to MDE for years and never visited this 2 spots. I finally went to go see for myself.

NEW LIFE:

I got there right at 11:00 am on a Sunday and will recommend to go at this time because the chicas are fresh and you will beat the other gringos for the hotties. Went inside the Blue door and had to pass through 2 other white metal gates. Walked up the stairs saw the mamasan. She probably did not recognize me and asked me if it's my first time there. I said Yes. She showed me the menu and I asked for the line up of girls. Told me to remember the number of the girl that I like. I had 10 girls walked up to me and Introduce their names one by one. Quality of girls 5-7/10. I saw 3 that I wanted to fuck.

First, Venezuelan, 28 years old, sexy body, pretty face, fake tits and long black hair wearing red lingerie. Second, paisa girl, she's got more meat than the first one, but has curves in the right places, face is okay and nice plump ass that you want to eat. Third, thick MILF, probably late 30's, she's gorgeous and have sexy body, big tits with big nipples poking out on her bra. Looks natural and I wanted to suck it so bad. Had to make the hard decision but I went to the first one.Nice thanks for the info.

[Manizales911]

Haha yeah it's of course impossible to get a real number. I get phone numbers pretty regularly, that's NOT what was being discussed. Getting a woman's phone number and a woman being agreeable to PFP are worlds apart, at least in my world. I date "normal" women non PFP, I bang hookers, and I have three sugar babies, all different.

[Manizales911]

I have also heard from a local that many girls have to "put out" to get a job and to hold it.This is very true, my baby mama has turned down and / or quit a few jobs because of this.

[Manizales911]

Mongers get in too deep. Go hang around normal people instead of hookers and you should realize everyone is not apt to be a hooker. There are a minute number of chicks doing this in comparison to the general population. But if you only go to places where there are hookers, going on websites that have hookers, out looking for hookers, then it gets in your brain that everyone is or wants to be a hooker.Exactly, you know the drill. A lot of these guys think that every woman in Colombia is a hooker. There are 26 million women in Colombia, there are NOT 26 million hookers in Colombia.

[Medclubber]

I get phone numbers pretty regularly, that's NOT what was being discussed. Getting a woman's phone number and a woman being agreeable to PFP are worlds apart, at least in my world. I date "normal" women non PFP, I bang hookers, and I have three sugar babies, all different.LOL you misread my post. Number as in percentage.

[Toastmonger69]

26 milion women. No one is safe! LOL.


Exactly, you know the drill. A lot of these guys think that every woman in Colombia is a hooker. There are 26 million women in Colombia, there are NOT 26 million hookers in Colombia.

[ElPostino]

Friend of mine who is visiting Medellin currently and a frequent visitor to this casa told me that New Life and its clients and girls got robbed cellphones and money by the gunmen. He also said there was some blood on the floor as well. Heard girls and clients were shaken and scared to death. However, next day, business as usual.

Be careful bros especially if your visits are discreet and don't want to be exposed. It is a least place where you don't want to be caught with near and dear.

[BootyBandito]

Friend of mine who is visiting Medellin currently and a frequent visitor to this casa told me that New Life and its clients and girls got robbed cellphones and money by the gunmen. He also said there was some blood on the floor as well. Heard girls and clients were shaken and scared to death. However, next day, business as usual.

Be careful bros especially if your visits are discreet and don't want to be exposed. It is a least place where you don't want to be caught with near and dear.Yes, I can confirm as I was there. 4 guys robbed the place, 2 waited outside and 2 entered the casa. I was in the toilet in the hallway at the time but heard the screaming and commotion outside. The girls were really shook up and crying, it wasn't a pleasant experience at all.

[Turgid]

I've trained a while at bodytech and while I've seen some of the hottest women there with incredible bodies, I personally never felt at ease to bring up the subject of PFP......In the gym you need to just have an ordinary conversation with her, ask her out for drinks or lunch or something like that. You will get laid but you will need to visit the mall with her, the P4P henceforth will be more expensive than Parque LLeras.

[RacShack]

This is very true, my baby mama has turned down and / or quit a few jobs because of this.Yeah, but how many has she kept!

[RacShack]

This is very true, my baby mama has turned down and / or quit a few jobs because of this.Yeah, but how many has she kept!

[Knowledge]

This is going to break some hearts but I feel int's important to be real about situations like this. First, some historical context, in 2011 and into 2012 New Life is where a a robbery gang got its start and expanded to several of the nearby Centro casas. To be clear, this crew ran a more sophisticated scheme. It got so bad that warning signs with photos of the ringleader were poster in and near Zandaly, New Life, Sexxy Amigas and Aiffe. These guys pretended to be policeman and preyed on what was becoming a growing number of foreign customers. They would lie in wait for foreigners and run up on them as they left the casas. They would flash fake police ID and threaten the foreigners with jail time because their investigation uncovered illegal girls in the casa. They would lead the foreigners away to a side street and alternately extort payments or strong arm rob them. This went on for more than a year until the casas got the real police involved and chased the gang away. As I mentioned, it started at New Life and spread as more and more foreigners started showing up in Centro. It's been calm for years until this incident. I really nope it's not going to be a repeat of what happened last time.

New Life has been gringo ground zero for many years now in Centro. I avoid it like the plague and it seems my instincts have been right. I avoided the Mansion even more; I never visited it. Some of you are aware the Mansion was similarly targeted. Based on what I've seen living here for a while is any place like New Life and the Mansion that attracts a lot of gringos is going to be targeted by robbers. It's just a matter of time. All the casas have security cameras and locked entrances. At New Life those measures are less effective because of the sheer volume of traffic in and out.


Friend of mine who is visiting Medellin currently and a frequent visitor to this casa told me that New Life and its clients and girls got robbed cellphones and money by the gunmen. He also said there was some blood on the floor as well. Heard girls and clients were shaken and scared to death. However, next day, business as usual.

Be careful bros especially if your visits are discreet and don't want to be exposed. It is a least place where you don't want to be caught with near and dear.

[LoneWolf76]

I get phone numbers pretty regularly, that's NOT what was being discussed. Getting a woman's phone number and a woman being agreeable to PFP are worlds apart, at least in my world. I date "normal" women non PFP, I bang hookers, and I have three sugar babies, all different.You have 3 sugar babies, why? I'll never understand why any man would have a sugar baby, what is the point. You get nothing in return, you're just throwing your money away. If you have money to burn donate to the less fortunate, not to young women who are too lazy to work. Sugar daddies are just pathetic simps.

[HumbleHal]

I was in the toilet in the hallway at the time ....it wasn't a pleasant experience at all.Hope you did not get wet, or frightened.

[JayWonEm]

What is wrong with approaching a woman on a normal basis?At a certain age... everything LOL.

I'm with you. If you have the game to hit on civvies you don't need to make a P4 P offer. If she is interested enough to spend time with you she will find her own way to extract value out of the relationship.

[BootyBandito]

Hope you did not get wet, or frightened.Yep I'm still in the toilet I was that scared. Muppet!

[RamDavidson84]

Planning a fall and Christmas / New Years trip to Medellin. I haven't been in several years, but I am getting very expensive hotel and airfare prices. 1200 USD round trip for flights from northeast USA and 150 USD a night for nice hotels in Poblado. Kind of seem almost double what I paid slightly before and slightly after Pandemic. Do these prices seem inflated or is that the current norm?

I am also seeing every other video on youtube is about dudes getting drugged and robbed which honestly I don't want to have to constantly worry about during my vacations. Are the druggings getting played up too much, or do you think it is a realistic threat in the city? I have purposely avoided the city the last few years due to the drugings.

[Manizales911]

You have 3 sugar babies, why? I'll never understand why any man would have a sugar baby, what is the point. You get nothing in return, you're just throwing your money away. If you have money to burn donate to the less fortunate, not to young women who are too lazy to work. Sugar daddies are just pathetic simps.And I'll never understand why a grown ass man would try to tell another grown ass man how to spend their money. I get nothing in return? All three of these girls fuck my brains out and two of them are of super model quality in body and looks. One of them does all of my shopping and one of the other chicas is assisting me weed through the unfurnished apartment rental market, if you know anything about this then you know that it is extremely difficult for even Colombians to rent here due to the ridiculous requirements. All three girls have normal jobs as they are not your typical working girl, one is a manager in a large real estate company, one is a psychologist and the other is a full time student studying law. I pay each of them the equivalent of $250. -$350. Usd a month and they come to see me as often as I want. Every other day one of them comes to my apartment so I get my brains fucked out every other day,15 times a month for as long as I want sin condon and no rules for a grand total of $850. Usd a month. If what I'm doing is being a pathetic simp then I want to stay a pathetic simp forever. You sir are a clueless mofo.

[Manizales911]

Yeah, but how many has she kept!Don't know and don't care, she and I aren't together so I could give two shits.

[DiscoverFL]

I avoided the Mansion even more; I never visited it. Some of you are aware the Mansion was similarly targeted. Based on what I've seen living here for a while is any place like New Life and the Mansion that attracts a lot of gringos is going to be targeted by robbers.Just my two cents, as far as I am aware the Mansion was never similarly targeted as you describe. They did have one robbery many years ago that I heard about, but nothing repetitive and definitely never heard of a customer being targeted outside by fake police or similar. If anything, it was the 'safe haven' that both visitors and local girls seeked; and now are severely missing.

[DiscoverFL]

Planning a fall and Christmas / New Years trip to Medellin. I haven't been in several years, but I am getting very expensive hotel and airfare prices. 1200 USD round trip for flights from northeast USA and 150 USD a night for nice hotels in Poblado. Kind of seem almost double what I paid slightly before and slightly after Pandemic. Do these prices seem inflated or is that the current norm?

I am also seeing every other video on youtube is about dudes getting drugged and robbed which honestly I don't want to have to constantly worry about during my vacations. Are the druggings getting played up too much, or do you think it is a realistic threat in the city? I have purposely avoided the city the last few years due to the drugings.Christmas and NYE is a very expensive time to travel as it is popular with Colombians flying back home to visit family. So, all fares go up. The definition of a 'nice' hotel is relative, so you may want to look into additional options as there is quite a widespread in pricing. I personally use Airbnb and always find good deals. Things are more expensive (aren't they everywhere) than they were before / during the Pandemic, so it that is understandable. Colombian economy is relatively strong, especially with recent investments and with the US tariffs on Brazilian coffee and chocolate making Colombian export futures look more positive.

The druggings and muggings have always been there, just getting a lot more press now than ever before. As more YouTube bros promote the city, more people without any travel experience or common sense come down, the easier pickings they are. You've already been here, so you will probably be fine. Most girls are just wanting to make a honest trade, and the minority looking to are advantage have pretty clear tell-tales that are easy to evade for all except the most obtuse idiots; or by those who choose to make high-risk selections (there are some experienced dudes who've gotten into trouble too, but a lot of it has to do with personal choices to make some higher-risk selections). The latest video someone posted a couple days ago is a really good example of someone making some really high-risk choices that got him burned.

[Knowledge]

Apologies if I was not clear. The Mansion was robbed just as New Life was, by armed robbers. Please correct me if any of that is not true. I brought up the fake police gang to illustrate the point that these kinds of crimes target foreigners. I did not mean to suggest the Mansion was the target of the fake police gang. I did not mean to offend the honor of the Mansion. I was trying to explain why I avoided the Mansion and why I avoid New Life in case it could help anyone else.


Just my two cents, as far as I am aware the Mansion was never similarly targeted as you describe. They did have one robbery many years ago that I heard about, but nothing repetitive and definitely never heard of a customer being targeted outside by fake police or similar. If anything, it was the 'safe haven' that both visitors and local girls seeked; and now are severely missing.

[SlapShot10]

Robbing gringos will continue to happen; especially, as tourism increases. My first trip was 13 years ago and the typical gringo you came across was adventurous, cautious, well-prepared, and not flashy. Take a walk around Provenza, Lleras, or even Comuna 13 and Laureles to see that is no longer the case. The brazen robberies are the one like the recent Rolex robbery of an older Colombian man in an affluent area the other day. You do that to a gringo and he goes home ashamed and probably is in Thailand for his next trip, or finally realizes wearing a Rolex isn't worth it in Medellin. You pull that on an older wealthy Colombian. Good luck, my friend!

Medellin is still much better than many many many places, but times are a changin' and IMHO, not for the better. If YouTube and Instagram ever crash or get banned, I reserve the right to change my position.

[HumbleHal]

You have 3 sugar babies, why? I'll never understand why any man would have a sugar baby, what is the point. You get nothing in return, you're just throwing your money away. If you have money to burn donate to the less fortunate, not to young women who are too lazy to work. Sugar daddies are just pathetic simps.Renting has less obligation than buying. And you can ghost them if you want to get rid of them. And variety, at your whim, is titillating! Great sex is what one gets, from a decent girl in her 20's. Hard to find that, normally, as one ages.

[ElPostino]

Robbing gringos will continue to happen; especially, as tourism increases. My first trip was 13 years ago and the typical gringo you came across was adventurous, cautious, well-prepared, and not flashy. Take a walk around Provenza, Lleras, or even Comuna 13 and Laureles to see that is no longer the case. The brazen robberies are the one like the recent Rolex robbery of an older Colombian man in an affluent area the other day. You do that to a gringo and he goes home ashamed and probably is in Thailand for his next trip, or finally realizes wearing a Rolex isn't worth it in Medellin. You pull that on an older wealthy Colombian. Good luck, my friend!

Medellin is still much better than many many many places, but times are a changin' and IMHO, not for the better. If YouTube and Instagram ever crash or get banned, I reserve the right to change my position.Two weeks ago, a seasoned gringo was robbed with a knife during afternoon, right in the store in El Centro while other customers and security guard were watching. No one helped him until police arrived. He was not wearing any flashy jewelry sort of. Only thing is he stands out wearing shorts and sandals.

[RamDavidson84]

You have 3 sugar babies, why? I'll never understand why any man would have a sugar baby, what is the point. You get nothing in return, you're just throwing your money away. If you have money to burn donate to the less fortunate, not to young women who are too lazy to work. Sugar daddies are just pathetic simps..One thing you will learn about this game is women love getting paid for their beauty. In the USA the ultimate payment is a marriage, your supporting her for life and committing to not seeing other women. This is a noble thing for all men who can pull this off and I have nothing but respect for committed family men. Now women from countries like Colombia where there is not an abundance of financial opportunity will be much more inclined to seek out short term financial arrangements for sex. From my experience the vast majority of the time these arrangements offer nothing but benefit to both parties as everything is all out on the table and open right from the beginning. The women are not lazy because the opportunity to work is simply not there. For the men, they are older and no longer competitive in the dating market for beautiful young women in their twenties. So for all the young guys reading this, if you want access to beautiful women as you get older, and you most likely will LOL, make sure your earning that bread and not working a dead end job and hitting the gym all day. There will always be the next wave of young in shape guys the same as there will always be the next wave of hot girls. [Deleted by Admin]

[LoneWolf76]

And I'll never understand why a grown ass man would try to tell another grown ass man how to spend their money. I get nothing in return? All three of these girls fuck my brains out and two of them are of super model quality in body and looks. One of them does all of my shopping and one of the other chicas is assisting me weed through the unfurnished apartment rental market, if you know anything about this then you know that it is extremely difficult for even Colombians to rent here due to the ridiculous requirements. All three girls have normal jobs as they are not your typical working girl, one is a manager in a large real estate company, one is a psychologist and the other is a full time student studying law. I pay each of them the equivalent of $250. -$350. Usd a month and they come to see me as often as I want. Every other day one of them comes to my apartment so I get my brains fucked out every other day,15 times a month for as long as I want sin condon and no rules for a grand total of $850. Usd a month. If what I'm doing is being a pathetic simp then I want to stay a pathetic simp forever. You sir are a clueless mofo.Sorry to break it to you those aren't sugar babies, those are prostitutes. You're paying them and return they have sex with you (& do other stuff). Regardless of the amount you pay, exchanging money for sex is prostitution / escorting / hookers etc. They may not be full time prostitutes, but never the less they are having sex for money. Lots of them have regular jobs, I use to see a teacher from time to time who had sex for money as another source of income. According to your theory cause she has full time job, having sex for money on the side doesn't make her prostitute. What ever helps you sleep at night.

[Frank Lucas]

And I'll never understand why a grown ass man would try to tell another grown ass man how to spend their money. I get nothing in return? All three of these girls fuck my brains out and two of them are of super model quality in body and looks. One of them does all of my shopping and one of the other chicas is assisting me weed through the unfurnished apartment rental market, if you know anything about this then you know that it is extremely difficult for even Colombians to rent here due to the ridiculous requirements. All three girls have normal jobs as they are not your typical working girl, one is a manager in a large real estate company, one is a psychologist and the other is a full time student studying law. I pay each of them the equivalent of $250. -$350. Usd a month and they come to see me as often as I want. Every other day one of them comes to my apartment so I get my brains fucked out every other day,15 times a month for as long as I want sin condon and no rules for a grand total of $850. Usd a month. If what I'm doing is being a pathetic simp then I want to stay a pathetic simp forever. You sir are a clueless mofo.Sounds like the perfect life. I hope to be in Medellin next month and I will be looking to rent a long term place for my retirement. Good luck on your search.

[Toastmonger69]

Sir, I salute you as a gentleman and a scholar. I had a similar arrangement with girls from HK in Tijuana and it was 3 x the cost at least. Where do you find these women? Seeking.com or just sarging out and about? Any information would be greatly appreciated. As I mentioned I hooked up with my tour guide and am looking for more real women like this, not just full time girls.


And I'll never understand why a grown ass man would try to tell another grown ass man how to spend their money. I get nothing in return? All three of these girls fuck my brains out and two of them are of super model quality in body and looks. One of them does all of my shopping and one of the other chicas is assisting me weed through the unfurnished apartment rental market, if you know anything about this then you know that it is extremely difficult for even Colombians to rent here due to the ridiculous requirements. All three girls have normal jobs as they are not your typical working girl, one is a manager in a large real estate company, one is a psychologist and the other is a full time student studying law. I pay each of them the equivalent of $250. -$350. Usd a month and they come to see me as often as I want. Every other day one of them comes to my apartment so I get my brains fucked out every other day,15 times a month for as long as I want sin condon and no rules for a grand total of $850. Usd a month. If what I'm doing is being a pathetic simp then I want to stay a pathetic simp forever. You sir are a clueless mofo.

[Combo]

Sorry to break it to you those aren't sugar babies, those are prostitutes. You're paying them and return they have sex with you (& do other stuff). Regardless of the amount you pay, exchanging money for sex is prostitution / escorting / hookers etc. They may not be full time prostitutes, but never the less they are having sex for money. Lots of them have regular jobs, I use to see a teacher from time to time who had sex for money as another source of income. According to your theory cause she has full time job, having sex for money on the side doesn't make her prostitute. What ever helps you sleep at night.Technically they're prostitutes. Is that a bad thing? I think it's legitimate to look at "semi-pros" a bit differently than full-fledged hookers.

[FFlintstone69]

Two weeks ago, a seasoned gringo was robbed with a knife during afternoon, right in the store in El Centro while other customers and security guard were watching. No one helped him until police arrived. He was not wearing any flashy jewelry sort of. Only thing is he stands out wearing shorts and sandals. He is also tall and blonde among locals.Can you add any info to back this up anywhere.

Why hasn't this seasoned gringo wrote about this.

[Combo]

You have 3 sugar babies, why? I'll never understand why any man would have a sugar baby, what is the point. You get nothing in return, you're just throwing your money away. If you have money to burn donate to the less fortunate, not to young women who are too lazy to work. Sugar daddies are just pathetic simps.Nothing in return? He gets to bone them several times a month. And it sounds like his cost per fuck cost is a lot lower than what a lot of posters here pay.

Isn't that what this site is about?

[RamDavidson84]

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[Fudimaar]

A All three of these girls fuck my brains out and two of them are of super model quality in body and looks. One of them does all of my shopping and one of the other chicas is assisting me weed through the unfurnished apartment rental market, if you know anything about this then you know that it is extremely difficult for even Colombians to rent here due to the ridiculous requirements. All three girls have normal jobs as they are not your typical working girl, one is a manager in a large real estate company, one is a psychologist and the other is a full time student studying law. I pay each of them the equivalent of $250. -$350. Usd a month and they come to see me as often as I want. Every other day one of them comes to my apartment so I get my brains fucked out every other day,15 times a month for as long as I want sin condon and no rules for a grand total of $850. Usd a month. Good for you Manizales for creating a lifestyle like this for yourself. This is literally the dream life that 99% of men merely fantasize about, but do not have the skills, the financial stability, the adventurous spirit, the confidence, the inner strength to go out and actually do it. Those men, sadly, are also the biggest haters of those who live the dream. You speak fluent Spanish which helps incredibly. Esp with a sugar baby, because it's not just all about the sex. You probably go out wining and dining once in a while too. I speak only basic Spanish, but I have an uncontrollable desire to bang Colombianas. Been doing it for 4 years. Sugar babes are not my arena, but I have a handful of regulars who I meet in a motel for a few hours of passionate sex.

Any man, who (in his middle-age, or retirement) gets to bang hot 20-something Latinas on a regular basis, for less than $1,000/ month, without the drama of a relationship, and can have pussy on tap, has cracked the code, in my opinion.

[ElPostino]

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[Manizales911]

Sorry to break it to you those aren't sugar babies, those are prostitutes. You're paying them and return they have sex with you (& do other stuff). Regardless of the amount you pay, exchanging money for sex is prostitution / escorting / hookers etc. They may not be full time prostitutes, but never the less they are having sex for money. Lots of them have regular jobs, I use to see a teacher from time to time who had sex for money as another source of income. According to your theory cause she has full time job, having sex for money on the side doesn't make her prostitute. What ever helps you sleep at night.Señor 6 posts, why don't you enlighten us on your definition of a sugar baby. This is what Wikepedia and Google give for a definition: Sugar dating or sugaring is a type of pseudoromantic interpersonal relationship where one person receives money or gifts in exchange for intimacy or companionship. The provider is typically older and wealthier, while the recipient is typically younger, attractive, and interested in improving their quality of life. " Call them whatever name you want to if that makes you feel less jealous, prostitute, working girl, hooker, etc. They get what they want and I sure as hell am getting what I want out of the arrangement.

[Manizales911]

Sir, I salute you as a gentleman and a scholar. I had a similar arrangement with girls from HK in Tijuana and it was 3 x the cost at least. Where do you find these women? Seeking.com or just sarging out and about? Any information would be greatly appreciated. As I mentioned I hooked up with my tour guide and am looking for more real women like this, not just full time girls.Two came from Seeking.com and the other was a waitress in a café,every morning I go to a different place for a tinto and buñuelos and if there is a decent looking girl there I chat them up. Seeking takes a lot of time and skill weeding out the true pros but I find it easy but time consuming when searching in a big city like Medellin where there are thousands of girls on the site but I'm retired so I have plenty of time on my hands.

[Manizales911]

Technically they're prostitutes. Is that a bad thing? I think it's legitimate to look at "semi-pros" a bit differently than full-fledged hookers.Personally I don't see the hang up guys have with pinning a particular name on chicas that bang a guy for compensation. You all can call them any name you want and it doesn't change the dynamic of the arrangement that I have with them one iota.

[Knowledge]

Yes, I agree with you about this. The semi / full pro, university student etc. Thing is something I never understood. Maybe it's me because I also am confused by the she was a 6, 7, 8 whatever thing. It means the same to me as saying I find the girl attractive.


Personally I don't see the hang up guys have with pinning a particular name on chicas that bang a guy for compensation. You all can call them any name you want and it doesn't change the dynamic of the arrangement that I have with them one iota.

[Mr Enternational]

The women are not lazy because the opportunity to work is simply not there.Where did you get this from? I know no woman in Colombia who is not a hooker that does not have a regular job. Even Mani said that his sugar babies have regular jobs. Mongers consistently make lame excuses for why chicks are hookers. It is perfectly fine to be a prostitute without making an excuse for being one.

[FFlintstone69]

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[Huacho]

Where did you get this from? I know no woman in Colombia who is not a hooker that does not have a regular job. Even Mani said that his sugar babies have regular jobs. Mongers consistently make lame excuses for why chicks are hookers. It is perfectly fine to be a prostitute without making an excuse for being one.World Bank says Colombia's unemployment rate is 9.6%, down in recent years but still high-ish. Perhaps the larger opportunity issue is the minimum wage of 1.623.500 COP, about 415 USD.

[RamDavidson84]

Where did you get this from? I know no woman in Colombia who is not a hooker that does not have a regular job. Even Mani said that his sugar babies have regular jobs. Mongers consistently make lame excuses for why chicks are hookers. It is perfectly fine to be a prostitute without making an excuse for being one.Dude, are you serious? Then why are there no cities like Medellin in USA? Because there is actually economic opportunity in USA, so women don't have to be hookers. I am talking regular hot girls here as well. Not drug addicts or women with personality disorders who can't function in a professional environment. If Colombia had salaries like USA, you would absolutely not see as many women selling themselves. They have regular jobs, but those jobs don't pay enough for the things they want.

I am not making excuses, I am just looking at the reality of the situation. I could give a fuck what the girls do in USA or any other country, its their lives. You are making my point exactly, the sugar babies have regular jobs, but they still love selling themselves for extra cash because their jobs don't pay enough. How many female lawyers you know selling their shit on the side in USA?

[Lofter]

I land on a Wednesday morning from the southeastern coast of the states. Was a 3. 5 hour flight and immigration wasn't that bad of a wait either. Checked into my Airbnb around noon and spent some time filling up the fridge with goods from a local grocery store, this really warmed me up to the steep hills of Poblado.

So before I had flown out there I did a bit of research on the casa's and local * that post online and texted one. She said she'd be available 8 to 5 So we agree to 3 pm I call a uber with time to spare and as I'm waiting the uber cancels on me (1st time this has ever happened). So when I finally get another to pick me up I was behind on time but let her know. Long story short right as I get out of the uber she says she's not available I guess thinking I was wasting time, bummer. So there I am in a random barrio in around northern Laurels thinking of what to do next, decided on grabbing a meal and trying a Spa nearby. Stopped for tacos and soon after found myself at Atenea Club where for 450 k it was 90 minutes for a nuru massage, shower & jacuzzi with masseuse, the girl I ended up with Tatiana appeared to be a goddess of some sort and she bestowed the touch of one onto me. It was a great experience overall and I would recommend it. Afterward I ended up wandering a few blocks south of the spa for a half hour, just getting a feel for the city ate a burger then back to my airbnb to go to bed around 7-8 being that I'd woken up so early.

The next day, Thursday I had a doctors appointment so spent more time then I wanted there, then over to the previous escort https://co.mileroticos.com/*holiii-soy-saris-una-hermosa-paisa-tetona-why-culona /25571328/ from the day before. I had to wait roughly 30 minutes outside (I know) and it wasn't worth the trouble but the sex was good and only cost me 160 k for a half hour with BBJ. Went back to Airbnb for a nap woke up around 6 ish and not long afterwards I went to a casa in Laureles 210 k for a hour with BBJ. For the night I took a stroll to and through the infamous Parque Lleras to pretty much just scope out the scene and ended up hanging with a few other guys from the states who had been here multiple times who gave me the rundown and even took me into one of the clubs which had a 10 k cover charge. I did't try to knock any of the working girls down then but took a few contacts for the next day.

Friday, I'm thinking I'm going to see one of the chica's who I got their numbers the night before with hopes of meeting mañana en la mañana and this one girl Estefania didn't get the second mañana. I got in contact with her around noon and she had me waiting until damn near 5 o clock. She was fun. Venezuelan, early twenties, redbone complexion with a very nice ass but with a boob job that was too big for her chest. Afterwards I just chilled and went to dinner then in bed by 11 because I had a day tour the next day. I did spend time at the mall and seeing bits and pieces of the city while waiting for Estefania but was definitely sour about having to wait so long I gave this one 350 k for the hour.

Saturday, My tour to El Peñón de Guatapé why Guatape, left the city at 6:45 am and didn't get back until 5:30 PM. It was a pretty cool experience got to see another element of Colombia and I will admit the country is just as beautiful as they say it is. I managed to climb up the giant rock, was pretty thrilling and was the only time I questioned Colombian craftsmanship. Visited the colorful village of Guatape and be a regular tourist for a while LOL, Also got to see one of Pablo Escobars run down mansions.

When finished up with my tour I had initially wanted to have one of these chicas from Thursday night but she has something come up but says later in the evening. I didn't want to end up waiting forever since Estefania the day before took a while. I went to a casa called Santorini House where I met a Clio, 18 yo who's photos we edited or old making her look 15-20 lbs lighter. Complaints aside she showed me a good time for an hour at 170 k Honestly though Best Lay of the trip looking back on it. She liked it enough as well to message me via telegram soon after but nothing came from it. Afterwards I went and got a deep tissue massage and dinner with a buddy I met that Thursday night. We go to Parque Lleras once again and around 11:30 I go back to my hotel to meet the chica from earlier who postponed meeting then. She arrives and gets checked in around 12:15 am. Seeing her again she was not worth the wait and halfway through sex her pu*sy starts smelling bad so I hurry to get my nut off and get her out of there and go to bed.

Sunday begins my last full day here in Medellin, and honestly I'm not ecstatic at this point and tell myself I'm going to just make sure I bust three good nuts and I'll be solid. If only I knew how bad things would get. So one chica I forget what her name is but I had exchanged contact with her Thursday night and had set it up for her to show up early. She gets to my room a bit after 10:15 and she not letting me have my way like at all. Saying her pussys to tight and I can't really Phuck her because she got a boob job recently. So many prohibitions and guys I'm not the type to just drill a gal and have her in pain, 90% never am. But I'm just thinking to myself why are you even here if you knew wtf you came her for. After a while it gets to be about 10:57 and she's telling me I have 5 minutes left LOL I show her the text of her saying she was downstairs at like 10:17. Being disappointed knowing she wasn't even trying to help me bust a nut I just sent her on her way wasted 300 k for nothing and was definitely played, when I got downstairs she already had her moto-friend waiting outside to grab her smh.

It's around 11 and change now I decide on going to Laureles spa again to get this 1st nut out and I get there and there's only 1 girl there who says she busy but around 12 PM or 2 PM more girls would show up. I didn't feel like doing the waiting game realized I wasted more time and got breakfast back in south Poblado while checking out another Massage spot that was closed on Sundays. While eating breakfast I plan for a chica that I had met the previous night agree to come by for 300 k for an hour of fun. She swings by after making me wait almost 1. 5 after agreed upon time (really something in the water here) She shows up I guess a bit bigger than I remember but nonetheless so much time had gone by I say whatever. She comes off to be one of the nicer gals of the trip originally from Caliish area but is here for family and a bunch of other stuff. She's not to cute but not butt ugly either. We DFK for foreplay and she starts sucking me up with a condom things start getting heavier and she rides me with a cover on and when we move around to change positions I look down on my c and see like phucking cottage cheese on my phucking dick holy Phuck was this so disgusting OMG and she was trying to act like this was the 1st time this has happened and she didn't know and at first tried to say it was the condom I was using. Disgusting, sent her on her way but I was out another 260 k because of her.

Now almost 600 k and have not been able to bust a nut. I head back over to Laureles spa and luck up with a Scarlett was a great lay and she could really take a bit of punishment. Afterward I go get another legit massage, dinner, and had another chica from the night before that I hoped would turn out better then the previous two I called in. This third one Dani was hotter then both of the previous two and had a great body I was finally looking forward to some great sex with a beautiful women who checked all my boxes (I'm a simple man). So we go at it and I'm trying to enjoy myself but she making it tough to where I can't really go deep in the pussy like I want to nor allowing the use of lube. This was the one chica I really wanted to let all out with and it was a let down she was started with the are you almost there BS. I'm lucky she even took the time to rub me off with a handjob to end everything. She was cold and as I walked her downstairs in the elevator I told her she came off as to controlling and serious in Spanish all she said was the only thing that matters is the time and money. And she left.

Monday morning, I got to be at the airport by 10:30 for my noonish flight. I did some light laundry went and got breakfast then messaged Laureles to see if they had someone available. They did, a Jessy so I uber over there handle my business with her for 130 k which was okay and headed back to my room to grab my shit and head to the airport back home to the states.

[Combo]

Personally I don't see the hang up guys have with pinning a particular name on chicas that bang a guy for compensation. You all can call them any name you want and it doesn't change the dynamic of the arrangement that I have with them one iota.I agree. I understood exactly what you meant in your post which started this all. Saying you did "normal women non PFP, hookers, and sugar babies, all different. "

[Knowledge]

It's a beautiful life here. I thank my lucky stars I get to do what I do.


Nothing in return? He gets to bone them several times a month. And it sounds like his cost per fuck cost is a lot lower than what a lot of posters here pay.

Isn't that what this site is about?

[TexasPistol]

I will be in Medellin for two weeks in January staying in this airbnb.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/19227135

I noticed the attached very stern warning. Is this really enforced or is this just added to the website to absolve airbnb from legal liability? Has anyone had problems because they brought a girl into their room? I was in Medellin two years ago, at a different airbnb apartment, and no one noticed or cared, however I don't recall seeing this warning message.

[Husker Dude]

I will be in Medellin for two weeks in January staying in this airbnb.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/19227135

I noticed the attached very stern warning. Is this really enforced or is this just added to the website to absolve airbnb from legal liability? Has anyone had problems because they brought a girl into their room? I was in Medellin two years ago, at a different airbnb apartment, and no one noticed or cared, however I don't recall seeing this warning message.Need to contact the host to see if he allows guests. There has been a crack down on airbnb the last year or two. Many don't allow guests. In Laureles check out San Peter's apt, guest friendly but noisy.

[TexasPistol]

Need to contact the host to see if he allows guests. There has been a crack down on airbnb the last year or two. Many don't allow guests. In Laureles check out San Peter's apt, guest friendly but noisy.It is a two person room, so is my girlfriend a "guest"? Especially if she's only visiting for an afternoon not overnight. Do you think the owner is going to be banging on the door demanding that my friend leave? Or maybe they will? I think it will be ok if they just want to see her ID. Actually maybe that is safer for me.

[Mr Enternational]

Dude, are you serious? Then why are there no cities like Medellin in USA? Because there is actually economic opportunity in USA, so women don't have to be hookers.Have you ever heard of a website called craigslist? Backpage? Onlyfans? Instagram? LOL. There are plenty of cities like Medellin in the USA. They did not stop making hookers when they made the ones in Medellin. They actually exist all over the world.

And women do not have to be hookers anywhere. Billions of women all over the world with normal jobs prove this. Hell, covid proved this when everything was shut down. There were not a bunch of women out in the streets of Medellin dead because there was no economic opportunity.

And why don't you see just as many old hookers as you see young ones? Did economic opportunity appear all of a sudden only for yesteryear's hookers? Because I am sure they still need money to live the same as they did when they were young hookers.

If anyone on this board knows any Colombian women who are not hookers that are sitting around unemployed, please speak up. Maybe my experience in Colombia is not accurate, but in 20 years if I have even known a Colombian who lost her job then she is right back with another job, not out horeing with the excuse of she can't find a job. I have said it before: Go meet some normal people then report back how they all need to be prostitutes or risk homelessness and starvation. This is some monger fallacy BS.

I like hookers just as much as the next man, but I do not see a need to make excuses for them. If a broad wants to sell me some pussy, then more power to her, but I know she is not doing it because it is impossible to get another job. I like to use an example of a chick in Thailand who I offered to make some money cleaning my place. She straight up told me, "I do not clean; I fuck for money. " There are Help Wanted signs out everyday in Parque Lleras, but you would have us believe chicks in Medellin have to be hookers because they can't find jobs.

[Toastmonger69]

If you are going to pull from parque lecheras get a place next to there with security to help mitigate getting scolped just for banging. There a "report of distinction" where a guy did that. I use the two hotels system in Tijuana for example because of the noise in zona norte and only bring a max of 3 girls a day to the hotel I sleep in. You can probably bring a couple guests no problem. Be selective about who you bring back to your main place.


I will be in Medellin for two weeks in January staying in this airbnb.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/19227135

I noticed the attached very stern warning. Is this really enforced or is this just added to the website to absolve airbnb from legal liability? Has anyone had problems because they brought a girl into their room? I was in Medellin two years ago, at a different airbnb apartment, and no one noticed or cared, however I don't recall seeing this warning message.

[Toastmonger69]

Thanks for the info. You know, when I was younger and in better shape, I used to pull waitresses all the time here in the states. One was a Mongolian chick I dated for about a year.

Same playbook every time- like you mentioned. See a cute girl waitressing, check for a ring. No ring, flirt. Leave a fat tip (like double the check), do a number ask. Success rate was more than 50% on this. Have you tried it with any of the hooters waitresses?


Two came from Seeking.com and the other was a waitress in a caf,every morning I go to a different place for a tinto and buuelos and if there is a decent looking girl there I chat them up. Seeking takes a lot of time and skill weeding out the true pros but I find it easy but time consuming when searching in a big city like Medellin where there are thousands of girls on the site but I'm retired so I have plenty of time on my hands.

[Kbdb2488]

FB group, all are welcome to join, currently mostly Medellin and Costa Rica info, want it to be worldwide eventually, join.

If the admins don't like, please just delete and no more will be posted about this.

Stay safe.

[Fun Luvr]

It is a two person room, so is my girlfriend a "guest"? Especially if she's only visiting for an afternoon not overnight. Do you think the owner is going to be banging on the door demanding that my friend leave? Or maybe they will? I think it will be ok if they just want to see her ID. Actually maybe that is safer for me.Anyone who is not registered at check-in is a guest. There are some very nosey people in Medellin. I have rented a couple of airbnb's where residents complained because I had young ladies visit me. I don't have parties, don't do any drugs, and I don't play loud music. Some owners are understandable if you tell them your visitors are friends you have known for a while. Some are not. I know the owner you are renting from, and have rented from him several times. He is a good guy. If you don't create any problems, you will not have a problem.

[Zeos1]

I will be in Medellin for two weeks in January staying in this airbnb.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/19227135

I noticed the attached very stern warning. Is this really enforced or is this just added to the website to absolve airbnb from legal liability? Has anyone had problems because they brought a girl into their room? I was in Medellin two years ago, at a different airbnb apartment, and no one noticed or cared, however I don't recall seeing this warning message.It will probably be enforced, and it fits with the campaign in Medellin in particular to get all hotels, short term rentals, etc. To pledge to stop sex tourism. In the case of Airbnb the owner or host of the unit can make these rules, and Airbnb will back them completely, so you could be out on the street with no refund, or worse yet have police knocking on your door.

[Zeos1]

It is a two person room, so is my girlfriend a "guest"? Especially if she's only visiting for an afternoon not overnight. Do you think the owner is going to be banging on the door demanding that my friend leave? Or maybe they will? I think it will be ok if they just want to see her ID. Actually maybe that is safer for me.A girlfriend is a guest if they were preregistered with you when you made the booking, and if they check in with you at the same time. This usually means that you will have provided all the information for her as for yourself, including identity info, etc.

[Knowledge]

I agree completely about nosy Colombians. Some of it is cultural. Within seconds, random people you meet for the first time and engage in casual conversation like uber drivers or shop clerks routinely ask what gringos consider highly personal questions. Some examples, are you married, do you have children, are they with you here in Medellin. The questions get much more intrusive if it's not the first encounter. The conversation cues we use to signal discomfort and disinterest in the line of questioning (E. G. No "and what about you, what is your family structure? Don't work here. The questions don't stop.


Anyone who is not registered at check-in is a guest. There are some very nosey people in Medellin. I have rented a couple of airbnb's where residents complained because I had young ladies visit me. I don't have parties, don't do any drugs, and I don't play loud music. Some owners are understandable if you tell them your visitors are friends you have known for a while. Some are not. I avoid any rentals with the type of restrictions you posted.

[RamDavidson84]

Have you ever heard of a website called craigslist? Backpage? Onlyfans? Instagram? LOL. There are plenty of cities like Medellin in the USA. They did not stop making hookers when they made the ones in Medellin. They actually exist all over the world.

And women do not have to be hookers anywhere. Billions of women all over the world with normal jobs prove this. Hell, covid proved this when everything was shut down. There were not a bunch of women out in the streets of Medellin dead because there was no economic opportunity.

And why don't you see just as many old hookers as you see young ones? Did economic opportunity appear all of a sudden only for yesteryear's hookers? Because I am sure they still need money to live the same as they did when they were young hookers.

If anyone on this board knows any Colombian women who are not hookers that are sitting around unemployed, please speak up. Maybe my experience in Colombia is not accurate, but in 20 years if I have even known a Colombian who lost her job then she is right back with another job, not out horeing with the excuse of she can't find a job. I have said it before: Go meet some normal people then report back how they all need to be prostitutes or risk homelessness and starvation. This is some monger fallacy BS..I can't agree with you on this as we see it differently and I don't care enough to get into a debate or waste more forum space LOL. Here are my finals thoughts as such. Everyone may think what they want on this topic.

I never said all women in Colombia are hookers or even a majority. You are kind of twisting my words there. There are however many more young attractive women open to sex for payment in Colombia as compared to the USA. There are no cities in USA that can even come close to the pay for play you can find in Medellin, Cartagena, or Bogota. Craigslist and Backpage in USA is disgusting and frankly dangerous. Personally if I want to meet someone and get to know them, just me personally, I want them to speak the same language as them. I would pick someone from USA for that for me. For those fluent in Spanish and have made meaningful Colombian relationships, god bless you and you have my envy.

It is my strong opinion that lack of economic opportunity leads to higher proportions of women engaging in prostitution all over Latin America. The people in Colombia are no more inherently lazy than any other group of people, but when the average salary is 8 k a year vs drinking and getting fucked by rich foreigners in fancy hotels in a beautiful city for several hundred a night, more women are going to engage in prostitution. If there was an abundance of men who were willing to pay a women 4 k or 5 k a night to fuck in USA, guess what? More women would be selling there shit. There simply isn't enough men with that much disposable income in the United States to facilitate that. There are however an abundance of careers which pay 90 k a year or more. 90 k is now average USA salary. Crazy, fucking inflation.

And again, I am not making excuses. This is the reality I perceive when I visit these places and pass these judgements. I have been to cities all over USA and there are no places like the clock tower or Parque Lleras. There are street walkers, but man I never seen one that I would want to put my dick in, hell no not for me. Well maybe a few, but they are were probably way more pricey and no near as numerous as a place like Parque Lleras.

You don't see old hookers because that's a niche market. If a man is paying, most men want a young hot girl, not a saggy tit and ass worn out women in her forties or fifties.

[TexasPistol]

I know the owner you are renting from, and have rented from him several times. He is a good guy. If you don't create any problems, you will not have a problem.Oh really? You know this guy, Alex? What are the odds! My impression is that the airbnbs in Medellin are generally run down buildings purchased by an investor who then renovates it and divides it up into airbnb apartments. The person you deal with is an employee of the owner, a caretaker. I currently rent an apartment as I have several times in the past plus a half dozen airbnbs. I pay on time. Don't damage anything. Don't make noise. Everyone is happy. I'm mystified as to why someone would panic if I have a prostitute in my room. How do you know she's a prostitute? I'm 65 and I think that I am old enough to have a lady visitor.

[TexasPistol]

It will probably be enforced, and it fits with the campaign in Medellin in particular to get all hotels, short term rentals, etc. To pledge to stop sex tourism. I don't mean to insult Medellin however is there any tourism there except sex tourism? If all the sex workers would magically vanish tomorrow how many people would vacation in Medellin? Are they going to come just to see where Pablo Escobar used to live? If they want to elimate sex tourism then totally shut down all tourist accommodations. Problem solved.

[RamDavidson84]

I don't mean to insult Medellin however is there any tourism there except sex tourism? If all the sex workers would magically vanish tomorrow how many people would vacation in Medellin? Are they going to come just to see where Pablo Escobar used to live? If they want to elimate sex tourism then totally shut down all tourist accommodations. Problem solved.Dude, its the weirdest thing. All the top sex tourism destinations attract bucket loads of young American girls. Don't ask me why they want to go there though, I couldn't tell you. I remember seeing a hot group of girls in Cartagena and approaching them only to realize as I got closer they were sadly American. Punta Cana, same thing, but black American women. Older women too. Jaco beach, yeah same thing, loads of American chicks.

[Zeos1]

I don't mean to insult Medellin however is there any tourism there except sex tourism? If all the sex workers would magically vanish tomorrow how many people would vacation in Medellin? Are they going to come just to see where Pablo Escobar used to live? If they want to elimate sex tourism then totally shut down all tourist accommodations. Problem solved.Not the case. Hotels and hostels are full of other tourists. Mongers make up a small percentage of tourists.

[TexasPistol]

Not the case. Hotels and hostels are full of other tourists. Mongers make up a small percentage of tourists.That's so interesting. I was looking over this list.

https://courtneymuro.com/21-cool-things-to-do-in-medellin-colombia/

Walk around El Poblado. See the grave of Pablo Escobar. See graffiti. To each his own but I can't see specially paying for lodging and transportation to Medellin to enjoy these riveting activities. Maybe this is just a cover story but they are actually coming for cheap drugs?

[TexasPistol]

I researched the recent problems with sex work in Medellin.

On March 28,2024 an American man got caught with an 11 year and a 12 year old girl in his hotel room.

https://colombiaone.com/2024/04/18/american-child-sexual-exploitation/

This caused a uproar because it appeared that the government was indifferent to foreigners hiring girls under 14. There was apparently an effort to ban streetwalkers in El Poblado. Mayor Federico Gutirrez proposed regulating short-term rentals on apps like Airbnb to curb sexual exploitation, but backed down and reached an agreement with the platform to exchange information on foreigners.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/spa/pedofilia-y-prostituci%C3%B3n%3A-el-lado-oscuro-del-turismo-en-medell%C3%ADn/81462783

I'm not interested in 12 year olds so I hope I'll be ok.

[Fun Luvr]

Oh really? You know this guy, Alex? What are the odds! I think Alex is from somewhere in Europe. He speaks very good English, probably it's his first language. He has a few apartments in Laureles. I think he owns some of them. He also rents some unfurnished and turns them into furnished for Airbnb rentals. I don't think he has any rentals in a tower with long-term renters. You shouldn't have any problems bringing your female companions to his apartments.

[TexasPistol]

Dude, its the weirdest thing. All the top sex tourism destinations attract bucket loads of young American girls.Well there are American men there so maybe they hope to meet someone. I would not refuse them. If it's free, that's for me. However I spent two weeks ago in El Poblado two years ago. The only white woman I saw was a pretty girl holding hands with her white boyfriend. It made an impression on me because I thought "If he has a girlfriend why is here with her?" However I didn't really get out into the nightlife too much. I went hunting in casas.

[TexasPistol]

You shouldn't have any problems bringing your female companions to his apartments.I just chatted with him. I didn't ask about guests however I got the exact location of my apartment. I'm attaching a photo. Cq. 2 #71-43, Laureles. Estadio, Medellíand, Laureles, Medellíand, Antioquia, Colombia.

I go in that gated door, up a flight of stairs and there are two apartments. One is for me. So no one will know what I am doing other than possibly whoever is in the other apartment.

[Zeos1]

That's so interesting. I was looking over this list.

https://courtneymuro.com/21-cool-things-to-do-in-medellin-colombia/

Walk around El Poblado. See the grave of Pablo Escobar. See graffiti. To each his own but I can't see specially paying for lodging and transportation to Medellin to enjoy these riveting activities. Maybe this is just a cover story but they are actually coming for cheap drugs?Check the higher end hotels in Poblado. Last time I was there they were full of foreign tourists. Families, couples, old, young. Then look around at younger (generally) digital nomad types. There are many many. There are whole apartments full of foreign tech workers based in Medellin. Last stats were over 1 million tourists in 2024 for Medellin. I would be surprised if the monger percentage was even 20% of that. But that's only a guess on my part. But as for the original point. There certainly is a concern in Colombia, and in Medellin in particular, to NOT be seen as a sex tourism destination, because that takes away from other forms of tourism, and it is also viewed as being not a good thing by the normal citizens. They tolerate prostitution, but they don't want to see it or be known for it. There are public organizations that lobby against it, including one that gets hotels to sign on to. Even 8 years ago many of the hotels would have a notice in the hotel lobby that they would not tolerate prostitution in any way, and especially warning about the consequences of illegal aspects relating to age.

[DiscoverFL]

I don't mean to insult Medellin however is there any tourism there except sex tourism? If all the sex workers would magically vanish tomorrow how many people would vacation in Medellin? Are they going to come just to see where Pablo Escobar used to live? If they want to elimate sex tourism then totally shut down all tourist accommodations. Problem solved.All it takes is a single stroll through Provenza. What do you see, 60%+ of older (30+) couples (either locals or mostly foreigners on vacation). Younger folks, harder to tell of course. People who are here for the food, nightlife, country, and fun. That's just the main area. Then you have all kinds of eco-tourism (see how many tours there are online for sale). There are over half a dozen motorcycle rental companies focused on tourists (Colombia is a motorcycle riders dream). Etc. The food / restaurant / nightlife alone is a great bargain for those visiting the country; the country is beautiful to explore, the restaurant choices continue to expand, etc. There is a ton of tourism that continues to grow and guess what, spends way more locally than any monger.

[Knowledge]

It's easy to overlook the power of social media algorithms. If you search "Medellin" on youtube or any of the other platforms, sex tourism shows up high in the results. It's not necessarily an accurate reflection of the tourism sector. It's more about what "creators" and "influencers" choose to present in order to get the most clicks and associated advertising revenue. The old saying "sex sells" applies here. Medellin and the rest of Colombia is pretty multifaceted beyond Parque Lleras and Plaza Botero.


Check the higher end hotels in Poblado. Last time I was there they were full of foreign tourists. Families, couples, old, young. Then look around at younger (generally) digital nomad types. There are many many. There are whole apartments full of foreign tech workers based in Medellin. Last stats were over 1 million tourists in 2024 for Medellin. I would be surprised if the monger percentage was even 20% of that. But that's only a guess on my part. But as for the original point. There certainly is a concern in Colombia, and in Medellin in particular, to NOT be seen as a sex tourism destination, because that takes away from other forms of tourism, and it is also viewed as being not a good thing by the normal citizens. They tolerate prostitution, but they don't want to see it or be known for it. There are public organizations that lobby against it, including one that gets hotels to sign on to. Even 8 years ago many of the hotels would have a notice in the hotel lobby that they would not tolerate prostitution in any way, and especially warning about the consequences of illegal aspects relating to age.

[TexasPistol]

Then you have all kinds of eco-tourism (see how many tours there are online for sale). There are over half a dozen motorcycle rental companies focused on tourists (Colombia is a motorcycle riders dream). Etc. The food / restaurant / nightlife alone is a great bargain for those visiting the country; I spent two weeks in Medellin in November 2023. I understand what you're saying. It's a beautiful location and the climate is exceptional. Eternal Spring. But what about robberies? Two years ago there were huge problems with local men walking up to foreigners, drawing a pistol and if you didn't IMMEDIATELY empty your pockets he might gun you down. There were several tourist murder victims. And this was happening in the best areas in broad daylight. I pretty much stuck to my room or brothels. Even so I still lost my cellphone to a pickpocket however I expected that and purposely brought a junkie old phone.

So is that all gone now? Is it perfectly safe for foreigners to wander around anywhere and everywhere smelling the flowers? That would be awesome.

[Turgid]

Dude, its the weirdest thing. All the top sex tourism destinations attract bucket loads of young American girls. Don't ask me why they want to go there though, I couldn't tell you. I remember seeing a hot group of girls in Cartagena and approaching them only to realize as I got closer they were sadly American. Punta Cana, same thing, but black American women. Older women too. Jaco beach, yeah same thing, loads of American chicks.It is not widely known but the Dominican Republic is a hotbed for female American sex tourists.

[TexasPistol]

It is not widely known but the Dominican Republic is a hotbed for female American sex tourists.Jamaica is famous for the Rent a Rastas. I believe a lot of European ladies go to Ghana for that purpose. People in these countries are poor. English speaking and a short plane ride away. I have heard however that women do it a bit differently than men. They won't give a boy $50 for an hour. They will buy him clothes, electronics, pay his rent and hang out with him for a couple of weeks. But it's really the same thing.

[LoveItHere69]

Dude, its the weirdest thing. All the top sex tourism destinations attract bucket loads of young American girls. Don't ask me why they want to go there though, I couldn't tell you. I remember seeing a hot group of girls in Cartagena and approaching them only to realize as I got closer they were sadly American. Punta Cana, same thing, but black American women. Older women too. Jaco beach, yeah same thing, loads of American chicks.The answer is cruise ships. Use vacationstogo.com and select "All ports or places to visit" at the bottom of the list.

For example: there are 27 cruises that depart somewhere around the world in Oct 2025 that stop in Cartagena and 126 cruises departing in November 2025 that stop at some time in Cartagena.

[RamDavidson84]

It is not widely known but the Dominican Republic is a hotbed for female American sex tourists.I don't think its a big secret. A few years ago a lady I used to work with once told me she loves her vacations in Cabaretti DR. She was a life long single woman in her forties. Sorry probably mispelled that. Of course I played dumb to her face and showed no sign of knowing anything about the place, but had a good laugh to myself as soon as she walked away LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

I don't think its a big secret. A few years ago a lady I used to work with once told me she loves her vacations in Cabaretti DR. She was a life long single woman in her forties. Sorry probably mispelled that. Of course I played dumb to her face and showed no sign of knowing anything about the place, but had a good laugh to myself as soon as she walked away LOL.Why did you play dumb? I would have leaned into it. When I was in Cabarete last month me and my girl were eating at my favorite restaurant on the beach (El Pescador). This beautiful young White chick was all over the host saying how it was her last night in town. I told him so you are a sanky panky (guy who gets paid from foreign women) huh? He swore he was not and that he was just the host of the restaurant. The next day when we went to the restaurant I asked him if he ended up getting with that chick and he said no. I said man you dropped the ball on that one. She was all over you like stank on shit.

[RamDavidson84]

Why did you play dumb? I would have leaned into it. When I was in Cabarete last month me and my girl were eating at my favorite restaurant on the beach (El Pescador). This beautiful young White chick was all over the host saying how it was her last night in town. I told him so you are a sanky panky (guy who gets paid from foreign women) huh? He swore he was not and that he was just the host of the restaurant. The next day when we went to the restaurant I asked him if he ended up getting with that chick and he said no. I said man you dropped the ball on that one. She was all over you like stank on shit.Not a good look for me at work if people know that I know all the sex tourist locations LOL.

[Mechanic88]

Just curious, where did you pull a chica from at that time of day? Just curious because I am going to be looking around that time as well. Wasn't sure if the ladies were out Parque Lleras yet.I'm currently here and I've seen some as early as 4 pm at parque lleras, maybe 10-15 of them.

[Oterri]

I am yet to try Centro for a quickie.

Can some kind soul please recommend one or two clean ST hotels near Veracruz church and also let me know the approx cost of room and girl for media hora? Muchas Gracius.

[TexasPistol]

Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.

One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists. While it's true that the city struggled with high crime rates and security issues in the past, Medellin has made significant strides in improving its security situation. For instance, Medellin, through the Colombian government, demobilized significant guerrilla groups and implemented security reforms. As a result, Medellin is recognized as one of the most progressive and safer cities in Latin America, with a thriving tourism industry.

Like any major city, visitors need to take appropriate precautions and follow basic safety guidelines, such as:

Not displaying expensive belongings in public.

Avoiding dangerous neighborhoods.

Being aware of your surroundings.

However, overall, Medellin is now considered safe and welcoming for tourists and those traveling to Medellin Colombia, with increased police presence in tourist areas and low crime rates.

https://two.travel/medellin-colombia-safe

In November 2023, foreign tourists were often held up on the street at gun point in broad daylight in good neighbourhoods. There were often cases where a motorcycle and a pair of men were involved. One guy drove the motorcycle, the other guy hopped off, drew his gun, robbed you, hopped back on and the motorcycle sped off.

Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).

[Chicago85]

Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.

One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists....
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Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).A couple comments:

1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.

2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).

In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.

[Manizales911]

It is not widely known but the Dominican Republic is a hotbed for female American sex tourists.In Sosua it's mostly Canadian women, I've seen and know quite a few.

[Manizales911]

All it takes is a single stroll through Provenza. What do you see, 60%+ of older (30+) couples (either locals or mostly foreigners on vacation). Younger folks, harder to tell of course. People who are here for the food, nightlife, country, and fun. That's just the main area. Then you have all kinds of eco-tourism (see how many tours there are online for sale). There are over half a dozen motorcycle rental companies focused on tourists (Colombia is a motorcycle riders dream). Etc. The food / restaurant / nightlife alone is a great bargain for those visiting the country; the country is beautiful to explore, the restaurant choices continue to expand, etc. There is a ton of tourism that continues to grow and guess what, spends way more locally than any monger.Go to Comuna 13 and there are hundreds of tourists there every day. If you haven't been it's a great way to spend the day.

[Combo]

A couple comments:

1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.

2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).

In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.And it's probably more dangerous for guys that share our hobby than your typical tourist.

That said, if you take the normal precautions (often discussed on this site), you'll likely be fine.

[TexasPistol]

A couple comments:
1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.
I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?

I only look for women in brothels or as we say "casas" so I'm not worried about the drinks with drugs added.

[MongerWS]

All it takes is a single stroll through Provenza. What do you see, 60%+ of older (30+) couples (either locals or mostly foreigners on vacation). Younger folks, harder to tell of course. People who are here for the food, nightlife, country, and fun. That's just the main area. Then you have all kinds of eco-tourism (see how many tours there are online for sale). There are over half a dozen motorcycle rental companies focused on tourists (Colombia is a motorcycle riders dream). Etc. The food / restaurant / nightlife alone is a great bargain for those visiting the country; the country is beautiful to explore, the restaurant choices continue to expand, etc. There is a ton of tourism that continues to grow and guess what, spends way more locally than any monger.If mongers weren't the bold trailblazers of destinations that get negative propaganda, those tourists you mention would likely be too afraid to even go Colombia to begin with. Mongers are the ones who made some of these places popular to travel to. And if they move their focus elsewhere, so will the attention of everyone else, due to exposure and hype via vlogs.

[The Tall Man]

A couple comments:

1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.

2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).

In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.Like yourself I arrived in 2010 and have seen the changes for the worse. My only savings grace is that I am not on the hunt for P4P given I am now 15 years older and probably most importantly is that I have a stable of young, fresh, non-pros who need some help from time to time and my selection is honed into vetting only the simply incredible lovers that after a few years have earned my trst, again it takes years.

Half are single mothers and the other half just normal Paisa chicas enjoying some spending money so they can spend on things like their Colombian boyfriends.

Trust no one and don't get a Paisa GF, trust me on this. You have no idea how deceptive two-faced they are UNTIL you have been "the backdoor man", "the "other man", you have no idea.

The Tall Man.

[WawaRider]

A couple comments:

1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.

2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).

In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.How did a non-pro scope you? So you are not paying and dating her for 3rd time and she scoped you?

That is expected though.

[SlapShot10]

Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.

One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists. While it's true that the city struggled with high crime rates and security issues in the past, Medellin has made significant strides in improving its security situation. For instance, Medellin, through the Colombian government, demobilized significant guerrilla groups and implemented security reforms. As a result, Medellin is recognized as one of the most progressive and safer cities in Latin America, with a thriving tourism industry.

Like any major city, visitors need to take appropriate precautions and follow basic safety guidelines, such as:

Not displaying expensive belongings in public.

Avoiding dangerous neighborhoods.

Being aware of your surroundings.

However, overall, Medellin is now considered safe and welcoming for tourists and those traveling to Medellin Colombia, with increased police presence in tourist areas and low crime rates.


In November 2023, foreign tourists were often held up on the street at gun point in broad daylight in good neighbourhoods. There were often cases where a motorcycle and a pair of men were involved. One guy drove the motorcycle, the other guy hopped off, drew his gun, robbed you, hopped back on and the motorcycle sped off.

Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).


I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.

Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.

I don't think ketamine is used more frequently than scopolomine. It is likely a combination of benzos in many instances.

"Benzos alone rarely cause fatal overdoses. But when combined with:

Other benzos.

Alcohol.

Opioids.

Barbiturates.

The central nervous system depression can become life-threatening. ".

Stay safe out there!

[DiscoverFL]

I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?There was? I was in Medellin four times in 2023 (same as '22 and 24' I did buy many a loaf of bread (I recommend AlePan Panadera Alemana) and wandered all over, I never stared down any barrels. Sure, some idiots playing with their iPhone on a corner had someone snatch it I'm sure, and I do know of one guy who was robbed while walking late at night in a dark street from Provenza in '23. But nothing as a 'serious problem' as you describe. Personally, I am more concerned late at night in Baltimore, Miami or San Juan than I am in Medellin. Of course there is crime in Medellin, like any city of its size, but nothing that to me seems to bubble up to a 'serious problem'. Don't be a target and you will be fine. Personally, I think crime is a little lower now because of a lower number of 'extremely desperate' homeless Venezuelan, at least I'm running into a lot less desperates begging at every corner like I was encountering in 22/23.

[Manizales911]

I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.

Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.

I don't think ketamine is used more frequently than scopolomine. It is likely a combination of benzos in many instances.

"Benzos alone rarely cause fatal overdoses. But when combined with:

Other benzos.

Alcohol.

Opioids.

Barbiturates.

The central nervous system depression can become life-threatening. ".

Stay safe out there!The drug being used is Clonazepam NOT scopolamine. Scopolamine was used years ago but hardly ever used anymore, Clonazepam is easier to obtain as it is available in any farmacia.

[TexasPistol]

There was? Of course there is crime in Medellin, like any city of its size, but nothing that to me seems to bubble up to a 'serious problem'.Maybe I misunderstood, however my strong impression at that time was that people were very concerned about armed robberies on the street in tourist areas.

https://www.medellinadvisors.com/crime-in-medellin-data-update-2023-mid-year/#Medellins_Tourist_Neighbourhoods_Continue_to_be_Hotspots_of_Robbery

Statistically, if you are there for a week or two, chances are that you will not be a victim however you might be. What I did is I did my shopping around 9:00 am. I think criminals sleep late. Beyond that I took an Uber door to door from my airbnb to a casa.

[Knowledge]

This is the part that really scares me. If I get jacked for a laptop, phone or some cash it's not the end of the world because any of that is easily replaced. God forbid someone slips me a mickey that is badly mixed or triggers an allergic reaction because you don't necessarily know if you can recover from that. It could be the end, as we've seen from time to time.


I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.

Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.

[ObjJay]

I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).

Thanks

[Toastmonger69]

If there was only a thread dedicated to this. Hmmmmmm. Where would I find it?


I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).

[Nil Admirari]

If there was only a thread dedicated to this. Hmmmmmm. Where would I find it?

I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).Thanks

Hmmmmmmm? How about the ISG User Blog titled "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments" with 1,514 reports and counting?
To give Toastmonger69 the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was being ironic----and, in his own way, advising ObjJay to RTFF.

[Chicago85]

Maybe I misunderstood, however my strong impression at that time was that people were very concerned about armed robberies on the street in tourist areas.

https://www.medellinadvisors.com/crime-in-medellin-data-update-2023-mid-year/#Medellins_Tourist_Neighbourhoods_Continue_to_be_Hotspots_of_Robbery

Statistically, if you are there for a week or two, chances are that you will not be a victim however you might be. What I did is I did my shopping around 9:00 am. I think criminals sleep late. Beyond that I took an Uber door to door from my airbnb to a casa.Just a heads up that crime against foreigners is way underreported in Medellin. Two reasons, 1) It's a pain in the ass to a report a crime and very few solved, 2) Many guys crimes against mongers are in compromised situations and they don't want girlfriends or wives to find out.

I was told the above by state police when I reported my crime. A big reason for me doing so was a record for insurance.

[Mr Enternational]

Just a heads up that crime against foreigners is way underreported in Medellin. Two reasons, 1) It's a pain in the ass to a report a crime and very few solved, 2) Many guys crimes against mongers are in compromised situations and they don't want girlfriends or wives to find out.

I was told the above by state police when I reported my crime. A big reason for me doing so was a record for insurance.Even in the States. A gay friend of mine was drugged and robbed by some people he thought were his friends. I got in contact with a detective that I knew and his advice was to just be thankful that he is still alive.

[Toastmonger69]

Being sarcastic.


Hmmmmmmm? How about the ISG User Blog titled "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments" with 1,514 reports and counting?
To give Toastmonger69 the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was being ironic----and, in his own way, advising ObjJay to RTFF.

[KeviKev68]

I've been to Medellin over 20 times in the past 3 years. I have never been a victim of crime. However, I got message from China from Tinder that I like to bang when I returned home. I was videoed walking with a chica to a short time hotel. She asked if I used a condom!

[Knowledge]

You completely confused me with this message. I'm not sure what happened or whether something happened. I hope you will be OK.


I've been to Medellin over 20 times in the past 3 years. I have never been a victim of crime. However, I got message from China from Tinder that I like to bang when I returned home. I was videoed walking with a chica to a short time hotel. She asked if I used a condom!

[KeviKev68]

You completely confused me with this message. I'm not sure what happened or whether something happened. I hope you will be OK.I am sorry for the confusion. What I was saying is that someone used their phone to record me taking a chica to short time hotel. I did. Not know this happened until I received a what's app message from a Tinder girl that had a clip that was posted on social media. It was a weird experience.

[Medclubber]

I am sorry for the confusion. What I was saying is that someone used their phone to record me taking a chica to short time hotel. I did. Not know this happened until I received a what's app message from a Tinder girl that had a clip that was posted on social media. It was a weird experience.Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?

[Dac007]

I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.

Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.

Thanks!

[KeviKev68]

Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?I was targeted.

[Husker Dude]

I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.

Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.

Thanks!First you need ti learn it's Colombia, NO you in it. Need to research more. I would not advise going alone first time.

[KeviKev68]

I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.

Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.

Thanks!No, I don't think so. They have clubs in Medellin like Gusto's but it is very expensive. The girls will ask for $300 US dollars and everything is takeout. You are better off in the park which is much better than the street scene in Tijuana and more upscale. If you want something like Tijuana the place to go is El Centro.

[Mr Enternational]

Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbiesYeah if you saw this then it was from some dye and contact lenses. Colombia is not Scandinavia.


My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel?If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.

[Mexidan]

I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US…However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! !

I suggest trying San Jose, Costa Rica first. Girls on site, plenty of English spoken, can you can meet up easily with other mongers who can show you the ropes. Medellin is more intermediate monger level.

[Mr Enternational]

No, I don't think so. They have clubs in Medellin like Gusto's but it is very expensive. The girls will ask for $300 US dollars and everything is takeout. You are better off in the park which is much better than the street scene in Tijuana and more upscale. If you want something like Tijuana the place to go is El Centro.Clubs in Medellin like Hong Kong in Tijuana are Barra Ejecutiva, Hilton Grill, Conejitas, Fase 2, etc. Go in, chicks all around, some dancing on stage, you can sit and drink with them, you can take them to the room and fuck them. In Medellin they all open towards the evening whereas I think Hong Kong opens about 11 am.

[Chicago85]

I've never traveled to another country to monger, ..... My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors?

Thanks!I'm mostly concurring with Mr. International. Adding a bit more color.

Clubs. Suggest: Fase II, La Isla, Barra Ejecutiva. In that order. Not because it's best to worst, but because I think that's closer to Hong Kong (I only went 2 x though).

Guests. Need to read the forum and check with the hotel. Those near Parque Lleras tend to be more open, but will take the girls ID and charge a guest fee after first girl.

Blondes. Not sure where you got this impression, but I've seen many more blondes in Mexico (mostly Mexico City) than anywhere in Colombia. If you really like blondes then go to the south of Brazil.

First time. Suggest trying Costa Rica first (San Jose, Jaco), but if set on Colombia I'd do Medellin.

[Black Page]

If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.Yes. And he did not even learn that Columbia is the District of Washington, but Medellin is in Colombia.

[Toastmonger69]

I was in your situation before my first Medellin visit. You should be ok if you take the necessary precautions. If your Spanish is good, it will help a lot.

You would probably enjoy the Casas like Loutron, New life, Amigas sexii. The fun thing about Medellin is that non pros and "Semi-pros" will put out also and the sex is much better with these ones.

I've only been to Barra Ejuctiva, which would be like one of the smaller clubs in HK- I'd say between Chicago on a good night and HK on a regular night. Fase 2 gets good reviews.

I. I suggest you read "reports of distinction" and the "hotels and apts" fourm.

On where to stay. I'd do it one of two ways:

1. Get a a dope place like Energy living off Airbnb. The bar below gives you a chance to get a drink and chat with the girl if you get one off seeking.com The door man checks ID and takes the girls picture. That still isn't 100% since she can just steal someone else ID but is a good deterrent.

2. Get a hotel or a place without security for cheaper but don't bring girls back there that are pros. Instead rent a "fucking air Bnb" with security near parque Lleras to bring all the cum dumps to.

II. Other considerations.

1. Take the time to talk to civilian girls (non pros) if your spanish is somewhat decent. You'd be surprised. I found a nice "Semi pro" 23 why / o on a hire a local tour guide website. She's now in Switzerland probably getting porked by one of you fkrs LOL. Hooters girls were definitely within reach.

2. You can buy straws that change color if a drink is spiked from CVS or online. In general don't have drinks around these girls if you are alone. Also if you see one on a more regular basis- don't tell her exactly when you are leaving. There have been some reports of longer term chicas cleaning a dude out because they knew it would be the last time they would see him in a while. Keep it open and ambiguous.

3. Take Uber everywhere. Cabs can rip you off at best or get you setup to be robbed at worst. Cabs should be the last option.

III. If you are looking for a place like HK in the world try the Sauna Clubs in Europe. There are threads on that. In fact, I'd do the Sauna clubs if I were you before CULO-ombia. Go on the website called upgraded points dot com and learn how to travel for pennnies on the dollar with points. It will take you a few months, you can also pay for a pro consultation to speed up the learning curve. That should take care of the flight and hotel costs when you travel.

Yes it will cost more in Europe so find a way to make some extra cash. It will cost slightly more than HK ironically. Before Covid FKK clubs were cheaper than HK.

Best FKK Clubs:

I. Sharks in Dramsdat / Frankfurt-- lot of variety with European, Latina, African and even Turkish girls.

II. Globe in Switzerland--fun to do public sex on the spot. You can sit there and get a BJ on the spot.

III. Wellcum in Austria- Hit or miss but decent. For your purposes the most similar to HK since they have a hotel onsite.


I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.

Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.

Thanks!

[RamDavidson84]

Clubs in Medellin like Hong Kong in Tijuana are Barra Ejecutiva, Hilton Grill, Conejitas, Fase 2, etc. Go in, chicks all around, some dancing on stage, you can sit and drink with them, you can take them to the room and fuck them. In Medellin they all open towards the evening whereas I think Hong Kong opens about 11 am.Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.

[Knowledge]

Those videos are a good reason to stay the fuck away from Parque Lleras if your personal circumstances could cause you to have to explain your appearance in the background. There are less responsible youtubers who say any crazy shit to get clicks. By crazy shit I mean describing the place as a public version of Epstein island and all sorts of other outlandish stuff.


Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?

[Nil Admirari]

Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.This may be the place you have in mind.

A month or two ago, a chica from Fase II who visits me from time to time and a friend of hers were chatting about a nearby, after hours club in that area called El Faisan where they had had a good time the night before.

Feeling curious, a little after midnight one Thursday or Friday night, I took an Uber there to check it out. The address pops up in Google Maps as el faisan night club, CL 36 #46-8, La Candelaria.

However, we arrived at a totally darkened corner building with no signage in an (at night) totally deserted neighborhood of warehouse / commercial buildings.

I've no idea if we somehow missed a well-hidden entrance, or we arrived too early, or the Uber map took us to the wrong location, or the joint was temporarily or permanently closed.

The experience brought to mind the classic Seinfeld episode where George mysteriously ends up very brieflly alone in a warehouse club stacked full of super models all of whom drool over him and when he tries to return only finds a meatpacking plant in the same location.

[SlapShot10]

Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.Not sure which you are thinking of but...

La Isla has an after hours club next door.

Fase II has an after hours club next door.

Palmahia has a variety of clubs (near Itagui off the highway / Regional), I would recommend going with a local or a group.

Just south of Palmahia's clubs is Fahrenheit.

[RamDavidson84]

Not sure which you are thinking of but...

La Isla has an after hours club next door.

Fase II has an after hours club next door.

Palmahia has a variety of clubs (near Itagui off the highway / Regional), I would recommend going with a local or a group.

Just south of Palmahia's clubs is Fahrenheit.El Faisan. It was very good when I went a few years ago. Very good for a club you could go to after 5 am La Isla and Fase 2 much better, but its a good last hurray spot if your having one of those nights.

[Nil Admirari]

El Faisan. It was very good when I went a few years ago. Very good for a club you could go to after 5 am La Isla and Fase 2 much better, but its a good last hurray spot if your having one of those nights.I no doubt just arrived way too early for an after-hours joint to be open. I checked. The address I listed for El Faisan is only one block from San Diego Show Night Club.

[Tacoma101]

Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!

Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.

Taco.


I land on a Wednesday morning from the southeastern coast of the states. Was a 3. 5 hour flight and immigration wasn't that bad of a wait either. Checked into my Airbnb around noon and spent some time filling up the fridge with goods from a local grocery store, this really warmed me up to the steep hills of Poblado.

[Huacho]

Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!

Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.

Taco.It's a vacation spot and has no scene to speak of. Hence no reports.

[Tacoma101]

It's a vacation spot and has no scene to speak of. Hence no reports.I'm talking about Medellin.

[Huacho]

I'm talking about Medellin.Well, that was spectacularly unclear, given the comment about ten pages with no reports. What are you talking about?

[Lofter]

Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!

Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.

Taco.Thanks for the acknowledgment, there weren't many reports for I when doing research as well.

[Tacoma101]

Well, that was spectacularly unclear, given the comment about ten pages with no reports. What are you talking about?Well if you looked at the report I quoted, you would see it referenced a report from MDE. The only one in 3 weeks?

[Tacoma101]

Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.

Anyways, since I had already popped one and a half generic Cialis pills, I was not going to be able to take a nap. I needed to engage plan be!

So, I packed my Daypack with my usual supplies. Baby wipes, deodorant, a towel, and my knock off cell phone in case I get robbed.

I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. It's always an enjoyable walk because it's straight downhill. All of the subway cars coming out of downtown were packed. But still so many people just walk out of downtown because they can't even afford a subway. But there were so many thin good looking girls on the street. And they all looked right through me haha. Very few made any eye contact at all.

Anyways, after a wrong turn, I made it down to Plaza Botero and I started doing a loop after I got a second small beer.

I spotted a little brown thing, not wearing a bra and clearly having some beautiful titties. As I walked up to say Hello, I could tell she was a bit older. We chatted for a bit and I asked her how much money she wanted and she said 50,000 pesos. ($12.50) for a half hour. Which was fine, but then we talked a little bit more and I asked her if she gives blowjobs without a condom and then she immediately went into making that an additional charge. And then she made a comment saying that if I behave well, she will behave well. Which was such a turn off. I could tell that she was going to be difficult so I wished her a good night and moved on. She also looked much older than the 22 she said.

I went maybe 20 yards further and I spotted this cutie sitting with her friends at a little table and I wasn't sure if she was working, but she had that beautiful fluffy Brazilian hair and a slender waist. She was wearing a bikini top that was showing off her little sport boobs and I knew I had to give it a try if I could get her attention. She eventually turned my way and I fingered her to come over and she did. And that's how I met Maria Jose from Manriquez. 18 years old, No Kids. We chatted it up for a bit. I asked her what she was looking for and she said 60,000 pesos for an hour. ($15.50).

I asked her if she knew a good motel and she mentioned one nearby, that I knew of, but I pretended that I didn't. So we walked up to the Zona Rosa motel and they charge 17,000 pesos for an hour. ($4). And that includes a condom. Room was fine. Bed looked clean but I always lay down my towel.

We get into the room and we are just talking up a storm. She's telling me that she's been in Laureles this evening and then she went to Poblado and now she's down her in el centero. So she does her rounds. It took her a while to get her comfortable with me, but she eventually did and she was making amazing eye contact. She's a taurus and I joked around and asked her if she gets emotional and cries a lot, and she admitted that she does and asked how I knew that. I told her I'm really into astrology.

I also asked if she had a boyfriend and she finally admitted that she does and that she's been together with him for three years.

Anyway, she did not hesitate getting naked and her titties were earth shattering fantastic. She was quite hesitant on doing the bareback blow job and I told her to just relax and I was going to take good care of her. After going back-and-forth a little bit, she finally went with it and she sucked my dick for the longest time. I had to tell her it was time to move on.

I could also tell she was a little bit congested and I asked her if she had a cold. She said no I'm doing Tussie. That's the synthetic pink cocaine. Anyways, I could tell her energy was that much better because of it. Haha.

Eventually, I knew I had to have her on top of me because we were only going to be together for an hour and I was hoping to get two nuts out of her.

So I tell her to get on top of me and straddle me but no sex and she does exactly that and her pussy is soft and wet and she is just sliding my rock hard dick against her. And of course she starts gently moaning which is just turning me on even more. I explode all over myself with that camel sliding. Just glorious.

We cleaned up with my baby wipes and I put down 150,000 pesos ($37) to make her comfortable with our time so far. She thought I was ready to go and I told her we have an hour and she took off her bikini top and took another bump of Tussi. She even offered me some. How kind.

For the next 20 minutes we just chatted and then I asked her if she was ready for round two and I just stood up and she was on the edge of the bed and she just started sucking me off until I got hard again. I did some more camel sliding, but I could tell that she was a little hesitant on me sliding it in so I told her I wanted her to lay down on her back and she was ready to go. I slid it in and we went at it for quite a while. I could feel my nut coming on and I wanted to get another good one so a little bit may have slipped inside, but I pulled out and got the rest on her stomach.

Overall, a great girl. Super nice with good energy and a great smile and perfect teeth. Not a whole lot of tattoos. I think about three big ones and a few crappy small ones. She told me she had her first tattoo when she was 13. I insisted that she doesn't get any more tattoos or bigger tits that she wanted.

I also Insisted on taking a few photos of her and told her she needed to visit me at my apartment. We exchanged numbers and I gave her some extra money. I think she'the be a lot of fun to see again. I think she likes bondage as well.

Great start to the trip!

Taco.

[Nottymrme]

Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.

Anyways, since I had already popped one and a half generic Cialis pills, I was not going to be able to take a nap. I needed to engage plan be!

So, I packed my Daypack with my usual supplies. Baby wipes, deodorant, a towel, and my knock off cell phone in case I get robbed.

I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. It's always an enjoyable walk because it's straight downhill. All of the subway cars coming out of downtown were packed. But still so many people just walk out of downtown because they can't even afford a subway. But there were so many thin good looking girls on the street. And they all looked right through me haha. Very few made any eye contact at all.

Anyways, after a wrong turn, I made it down to Plaza Botero and I started doing a loop after I got a second small beer..Nice report! How do you verify age? How can you be sure ID is real?

[WawaRider]

Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.
Great start to the trip!

Taco.Nice report Bro! Now this is what we want to see when we check in this forum every time a new report.

[DiscoverFL]

And that's how I met Maria Jose from Manriquez. 18 years old, No Kids. Fantastic report. That's how you make a connection that later becomes a regular. Good deal!

[Tacoma101]

I didn't. But if you're in the game long enough, you can tell who the minors are down there. Its very easy.


Nice report! How do you verify age? How can you be sure ID is real?

[Fun Luvr]

I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. Thanks for the report. Were you there in the late afternoon, or early evening?

[Mr Enternational]

I didn't. But if you're in the game long enough, you can tell who the minors are down there. Its very easy.Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.

[Nounce]

Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.You can tell the age difference between 18 and just under 18? Some 20 year old in centro have been living in centro for more than 5 years but that is not exclusive to working girls in centro.

[Tacoma101]

Thanks for the report. Were you there in the late afternoon, or early evening?Best time to be down there is 4-8 pm, in my opinion. Of course things pick up toward the end of the month with bills due and Christmas time brings out a lot of girls that normally don't work down there.

The area is actually a lot better than it was a year ago. The bars near the plaza have expanded with tables in the courtyard now. Perfect for a beer and checking out the girls. Even saw some other melanine deprived gringos there after dark haha.

Taco.

[Tacoma101]

Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.The giveaways for me, besides the clothes and looks, are minors work in pairs, suck on lollipops, and can't carry a conversation. There's also one motel on 53 where they mostly hangout. So I dodge that place.

Spanish helps a lot, fellas.

Taco.

[Tacoma101]

I've been to all of the spas in Rio Sur mall. This one has always been the best for a solid massage and a menu of extras.

I reached out and my favorite chica doesn't work there anymore but I moved forward and chose Marcela via WhatsApp. (Didn't ask for pictures).

Garage has a nice massage room but Marcela was about a 6 in looks. Shame as Luisa, my old favorite, was about an 8. Massage, as expected was VERY good and she took the whole hour. HJ was nice and she popped out her nice tits. She was pushing for a body to body massage but I declined. Not attracted.

Prices went up since 2024. Massage is now 160 k and Marcela expected 120 k more for her "work". Pricey but I can't live in el Centro every day haha.

They have a good shower to use after. Always take your stuff with you.

When leaving, I got a glimpse of the other therapist. Also not attractive.

Might just be a good spot for a legit massage.

Taco.

[ObjJay]

The swing bar at the Haven hotel, do girls hang out there to be picked up?

[FFlintstone69]

Even in the States. A gay friend of mine was drugged and robbed by some people he thought were his friends. I got in contact with a detective that I knew and his advice was to just be thankful that he is still alive.https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/09/24/tabitha-bundrick-accused-of-murdering-3-manhattan-men-with-fentanyl-during-10-month-robbery-spree/

[BluePillow]

Hey Guys,

Planning my first trip and I've been RTFF religiously. My spanish is not the best, but I'm probably going to be fine if I just look online for english speaking people off Seeking, use the apps, etc. - however, I'm curious, is there a bad sentiment towards Asian people? Asking out of curiosity and primarily safety, thanks.

[BluePillow]

Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.

[Mr Enternational]

Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.Nobody cares how you look. For English your mileage will vary widely unless it is someone in the tourist industry.

[NeilGeorge]

are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.Rare. Possibly near the Universities there may be some English spoken, but most of those girls are not bad girls looking to fuck.

[Fun Luvr]

Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.You will find very few chicas in Medellin who speak English. Most of them will be patient with you if you are trying to speak Spanish. They will help you if you can speak a little.

[Tacoma101]

So my evening date flaked out, due to her crazy dad not allowing her to go out. So I just decided to have a random adventure to Park Lleras.

I arrived about 830 and took a stroll through the park. It's amazing how much has changed in 18 months. The place is starting to look like Las Vegas or Cancun. My Lord. There were a lot of women. And not many guys. I struck up a conversation with a gal from Bello and invited her to dinner (I kinda liked the instant dinner date option). She was good company, but I wasn't interested in pursuing anything after dinner. She quoted 350 k for an hour and 100 K for a nearby hotel room. No thanks.

After ditching her, I made it to a liquor store bar on the opposite side of the park. Opposite of gusto. It's there I met "Irish John". Some of you guys may know him. He's a regular in Poblado and wow, he was a ton of fun to talk to. He was telling me that he met his 26 year old girlfriend in Santa Fe mall when he was in line at frisby chicken. He simply gave her his business card and she messaged him not long after. She is stunning. He is doing very well for 67 years old. They've been together for three years. He jokes around and tells people that she's too old for him. Haha.

We talked about a lot of things, but one of his other interesting stories was how he did get scoped a few years back. It was also a chica that he met in the mall and they had been on five dates together. She eventually came over to his house and scoped his coffee. She took a lot of his valuables, but he was able to track his laptops down with the help of some off duty police officers. He knows he was lucky that he wasn't killed by the drug. But he has a very high tolerance.

After that, I took another stroll through the Park. At least 4-1 women at midnight and definitely more slender women than on bumble and tinder. Careful with the minors. They are also in the Parque Lleras mix and the police don't seem to care that they are there. I thought the police use to check cedulas upon entering that area but that's not the case anymore and with it being redesigned a lot of girls arrive packed into cabs. Looked like a clown car with how many 304's would come out of one small yellow taxi.

Taco.

[Knowledge]

A couple of years ago a neighbor in my building who teaches French invited me to be a guest gringo at his language school. I was really surprised how little knowledge of English some of the Colombian English instructors had. When I naively asked my host why they don't have any native English speakers teaching English, he asked me if I would be willing to do it for 2 million pesos per month. It all made sense after that.


Rare. Possibly near the Universities there may be some English spoken, but most of those girls are not bad girls looking to fuck.

[WawaRider]

Taco.Thanks for updates, I'm excited to be there in few days.

QQ, where can we get kinky fantasies fulfilled? Nothing too crazy like BDSM but stuff I am assuming a regular lleras girl wouldn't do necessarily.

Are there any casas or clubs for these. Stuff like DT, AR, facial etc.

[Jim0129]

Greetings all,

On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.

This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:

If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?

This has me worried because I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.

How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.

[Butch145]

Greetings all,

I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.

How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.I have arrived a few times that late, hopefully no immigration delay. ATM machine on premises.

I use taxi outside showing taxi. Usually its around 120,000 pesos. You could alway exchange in USA at the airport. I would check withe cellphone company, I use verizon and it works fine in Colombia.

[Jim0129]

I have arrived a few times that late, hopefully no immigration delay. ATM machine on premises.

I use taxi outside showing taxi. Usually its around 120,000 pesos. You could alway exchange in USA at the airport. I would check withe cellphone company, I use verizon and it works fine in Colombia.Ok, great, I was mostly concerned about the money, but any ATM will do, just to get engough to get into a Taxi.

I've been looking at buying a colombian SIM card on eBay, they're not expensive and I would get cell phone service right of the plane, however I've been looking at youtube videos that show how to activate the SIM cards in Colombia and all of them show that you have to input a cedula number. Is that the new norm? How does someone who's not from Colombia get a local cell phone number now?

Thanks for answering.

[Dac007]

Yeah if you saw this then it was from some dye and contact lenses. Colombia is not Scandinavia.

If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.Damn, I just came for some help. I've been reading but posts are all over the place. Thanks for your lack of help. It's a damn shame because I'm helped dozens, probably hundreds of guys who needed assistance in my town (Vegas). Didn't just say f you, go read. BTW, my "blonde" comment was just commenting on the diversity of looks with Colombian women.

[Dac007]

This may be the place you have in mind.

A month or two ago, a chica from Fase II who visits me from time to time and a friend of hers were chatting about a nearby, after hours club in that area called El Faisan where they had had a good time the night before.

Feeling curious, a little after midnight one Thursday or Friday night, I took an Uber there to check it out. The address pops up in Google Maps as el faisan night club, CL 36 #46-8, La Candelaria.

However, we arrived at a totally darkened corner building with no signage in an (at night) totally deserted neighborhood of warehouse / commercial buildings.

I've no idea if we somehow missed a well-hidden entrance, or we arrived too early, or the Uber map took us to the wrong location, or the joint was temporarily or permanently closed.

The experience brought to mind the classic Seinfeld episode where George mysteriously ends up very brieflly alone in a warehouse club stacked full of super models all of whom drool over him and when he tries to return only finds a meatpacking plant in the same location.Thank you bro, if you are ever visit Vegas, let me know.

[Dac007]

Yes. And he did not even learn that Columbia is the District of Washington, but Medellin is in Colombia.Sorry, didn't realize typo's were such a big deal. BTW, WTF is the "District of Washington"? I've heard of "District of Columbia", "Washington DC", "DC" but not "District of Washington"?

How have you not learned that? See how that works when you come at someone for a simple error.

[Dac007]

First you need ti learn it's Colombia, NO you in it. Need to research more. I would not advise going alone first time.That LAST thing I'm concerned about is the correct spelling of that country, especially on this site, I'm sure I will before I travel there. But thanks for the advice and I do not plan on traveling solo. I'm doing my research, I'm just used to the USA site where someone new would ask questions and he was given lots of info. I see it's not quite like that here on the Intl side.

[Fun Luvr]

This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:

If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?There will probably be an exchange booth open as late as flights arrive. If not, I think there is a Bancolumbia ATM on the arrival level. You need to walk a little way toward the national side of the terminal to find it. There are numerous ATM's on the departure level. Go up the escalator just outside the arrival area. ATM's are near the escalator, along the wall away from the street. I don't think any stores that sell sim cards will be open. Any form that asks for cedula number, I select cedula de extranjero (or something similar) and enter my passport number. The last sim card I purchased was from a little store and I didn't have to register it.

[Manizales911]

That LAST thing I'm concerned about is the correct spelling of that country, especially on this site, I'm sure I will before I travel there. But thanks for the advice and I do not plan on traveling solo. I'm doing my research, I'm just used to the USA site where someone new would ask questions and he was given lots of info. I see it's not quite like that here on the Intl side.It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.

[MoonShot]

It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.I dictate my post all the time and I use the word Colombia when I dictate Android constantly spells it Columbia. In fact I am dictating now and saying the word Colombia and you can see how it comes out. I know how to spell the word Colombia the country correctly but sometimes it's a hassle to correct the spellings of Colombia especially for a website like this. Guys constantly misspelled words or make grammatical errors all the time. Misspelling Colombia is not a big deal. I'm going to finish dictating this post without correcting the spelling of Colombia so you can see how it turns out when I say the word Columbia and use dictation. I mean I could go back and correct all the spellings but it's such a hassle and everyone knows what I'm referring to. This is not a term paper. This is a mongering website.

[Jim0129]

There will probably be an exchange booth open as late as flights arrive. If not, I think there is a Bancolumbia ATM on the arrival level. You need to walk a little way toward the national side of the terminal to find it. There are numerous ATM's on the departure level. Go up the escalator just outside the arrival area. ATM's are near the escalator, along the wall away from the street. I don't think any stores that sell sim cards will be open. Any form that asks for cedula number, I select cedula de extranjero (or something similar) and enter my passport number. The last sim card I purchased was from a little store and I didn't have to register it.Ok great! Thank you for the information!

[Black Page]

Sorry, didn't realize typo's were such a big deal. BTW, WTF is the "District of Washington"? I've heard of "District of Columbia", "Washington DC", "DC" but not "District of Washington"?How have you not learned that? See how that works when you come at someone for a simple error.I see you did not get that I had downgraded my terminology on purpose for someone who does not know that this is Colombia. Should I have written a tautology "Columbia is the District of Columbia"? Or have been less elliptical with "Columbia is the the name of the District, where Washington, Capital of the United States of America, is located"?
Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.

[Black Page]

On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.
(...) If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?1) Never use exchange boots in airports, unless it's an emergency option, or you want to use only cash to not leave traces of your visit to Colombia with family in your bank statement. The best way to get cash abroad is via ATM, because even including fees and the mark up on the exchange rate you will save a lot of money. Two tips:

A) Use the Servibanca ATM (the green one) because it is the only one who allows foreigners to withdraw up to 2.000.000 COP (the limit at Servibanca is normally 720k, while 600k or even 300k at other banks). You will need all that cash if you come to play.

B) NEVER select the option to use the conversion rate suggested by the ATM at first: it's a robbery. Choose to withdraw COP leaving to VISA/Mastercard whatever to make the conversion.

2) If your phone is newer than, say, 2021, it should allow you to install an eSIM. It will change your life when travelling. Yes, it is a bit more expensive than a physical SIM bought on place, but its ease of using is priceless. You install it before flying, and if you did everything right you will be online as soon as you turn your phone on after landing.
If you don't want or cannot use an eSIM, then buy it on site. The problem is that in Bogota there are stores that sell you a SIM also after midnight, but based on what I remember there are no such stores open at night in the Medellin airport. You will have to wait the next day. Go to a store in a mall.

[Black Page]

So my evening date flaked out, due to her crazy dad not allowing her to go out. So I just decided to have a random adventure to Park Lleras.
I arrived about 830 and took a stroll through the park. It's amazing how much has changed in 18 months.Only 18 months? When did that happen?
I went back there after COVID one year ago, and I was shocked by seeing the change after my last visit before 2020.
One of the most upscale areas in Medellin, with good restaurants, bars, nightlife, and of course girls but high tier, transformed in a puteria crowded by the same type of girls that walk around the Centro, who mass migrate there at night, but changing the price from 50 k to 500 k because of the location. Gosh. I ran away.

[Fun Luvr]

1)A) Use the Servibanca ATM (the green one) because it is the only one who allows foreigners to withdraw up to 2.000.000 COPDavivienda bank also allows withdrawals of 2,000,000 COP. Every Servibanca ATM I've used dispenses only 100,000 or 50,000 notes when withdrawing 2,000,000. Davivienda dispenses a mixture of 100,000, 50,000, 20,000, and 10,000. ATM fee at Servibanca is 22,500, Davivienda is 26,000.

[Giz99]

Greetings all,

On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.

This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:

If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?

This has me worried because I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.

How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.You can use an ATM at the airport. Tell your bank before hand that you are travelling so your card does not get blocked. You can also buy pesos at your bank before you leave the exchange rate will not be great.

[Mr Enternational]

Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.To be fair, Columbia is simply the English version of Colombia. I mean nobody goes around ranting to English speakers that it is Cristobal Colon, not Christopher Columbus. Likewise, there are no souvenirs in airports in Brazil saying It is BRASIL, not Brazil.

[Black Page]

Davivienda bank also allows withdrawals of 2,000,000 COP. Every Servibanca ATM I've used dispenses only 100,000 or 50,000 notes when withdrawing 2,000,000. Davivienda dispenses a mixture of 100,000, 50,000, 20,000, and 10,000. ATM fee at Servibanca is 22,500, Davivienda is 26,000.Chapeau! I surrender.

I only note that I would never like to receive 10k, 20k, even 50k when I withdraw 2 millions... :-)
I try to get only 100k.

[Nounce]

I try to get only 100k.It depends. I got 100 mil bills in 3 of the last 5 withdraws I made at Davivienda. 1 withdraw only allow 800 and I got all 20 mil bill. One I got all 50 mil bills.

The problem I have with Servibanca machines is that they are not reliable. Probably more than half the times that I was not able to withdraw money from the same ATM that had worked before.

[Dac007]

I see you did not get that I had downgraded my terminology on purpose for someone who does not know that this is Colombia. Should I have written a tautology "Columbia is the District of Columbia"? Or have been less elliptical with "Columbia is the the name of the District, where Washington, Capital of the United States of America, is located"?
Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.It was, as I was not typing, I was using my phone to dictate the message, don't have the time to use the phone keyboard to type. Spell check is on but it's not smart enough to understand I'm referring to Columbia, not Colombia. I guess I should apologize to all of the good people of Columbia!

[Dac007]

It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.As I mentioned to the other guy that had a fit over the misspelling, I was dictating via my phone, as I do with all messages, posts and texts. AI is not yet advanced enough to read my mind and understand that I'm referring to Colombia, not Columbia.

[Dac007]

I was in your situation before my first Medellin visit. You should be ok if you take the necessary precautions. If your Spanish is good, it will help a lot.

You would probably enjoy the Casas like Loutron, New life, Amigas sexii. The fun thing about Medellin is that non pros and "Semi-pros" will put out also and the sex is much better with these ones.

I've only been to Barra Ejuctiva, which would be like one of the smaller clubs in HK- I'd say between Chicago on a good night and HK on a regular night. Fase 2 gets good reviews.

I. I suggest you read "reports of distinction" and the "hotels and apts" fourm.

On where to stay. I'd do it one of two ways:

1. Get a a dope place like Energy living off Airbnb. The bar below gives you a chance to get a drink and chat with the girl if you get one off seeking.com The door man checks ID and takes the girls picture. That still isn't 100% since she can just steal someone else ID but is a good deterrent.

2. Get a hotel or a place without security for cheaper but don't bring girls back there that are pros. Instead rent a "fucking air Bnb" with security near parque Lleras to bring all the cum dumps to.

II. Other considerations.

1. Take the time to talk to civilian girls (non pros) if your spanish is somewhat decent. You'd be surprised. I found a nice "Semi pro" 23 why / o on a hire a local tour guide website. She's now in Switzerland probably getting porked by one of you fkrs LOL. Hooters girls were definitely within reach.

2. You can buy straws that change color if a drink is spiked from CVS or online. In general don't have drinks around these girls if you are alone. Also if you see one on a more regular basis- don't tell her exactly when you are leaving. There have been some reports of longer term chicas cleaning a dude out because they knew it would be the last time they would see him in a while. Keep it open and ambiguous.

3. Take Uber everywhere. Cabs can rip you off at best or get you setup to be robbed at worst. Cabs should be the last option.

III. If you are looking for a place like HK in the world try the Sauna Clubs in Europe. There are threads on that. In fact, I'd do the Sauna clubs if I were you before CULO-ombia. Go on the website called upgraded points dot com and learn how to travel for pennnies on the dollar with points. It will take you a few months, you can also pay for a pro consultation to speed up the learning curve. That should take care of the flight and hotel costs when you travel.

Yes it will cost more in Europe so find a way to make some extra cash. It will cost slightly more than HK ironically. Before Covid FKK clubs were cheaper than HK.

Best FKK Clubs:

I. Sharks in Dramsdat / Frankfurt-- lot of variety with European, Latina, African and even Turkish girls.

II. Globe in Switzerland--fun to do public sex on the spot. You can sit there and get a BJ on the spot.

III. Wellcum in Austria- Hit or miss but decent. For your purposes the most similar to HK since they have a hotel onsite.Thanks, this is very helpful!

[Dac007]

I suggest trying San Jose, Costa Rica first. Girls on site, plenty of English spoken, can you can meet up easily with other mongers who can show you the ropes. Medellin is more intermediate monger level.Costa Rica is our backup. My buddy has been there.

[Dac007]

I'm mostly concurring with Mr. International. Adding a bit more color.

Clubs. Suggest: Fase II, La Isla, Barra Ejecutiva. In that order. Not because it's best to worst, but because I think that's closer to Hong Kong (I only went 2 x though).

Guests. Need to read the forum and check with the hotel. Those near Parque Lleras tend to be more open, but will take the girls ID and charge a guest fee after first girl.

Blondes. Not sure where you got this impression, but I've seen many more blondes in Mexico (mostly Mexico City) than anywhere in Colombia. If you really like blondes then go to the south of Brazil.

First time. Suggest trying Costa Rica first (San Jose, Jaco), but if set on Colombia I'd do Medellin.Thanks, Costa Rica is our backup plan, my buddy has been there before. As for the blonde comments, I'm just going by why I see on camsites, IG and X. I see a lot of Colombian women with blonde hair. Maybe they are in a certain region or perhaps bleaching hair has become more popular recently.

[Dac007]

I would like to apologize to all of those who got their panties in a bunch over my posts which used the word Columbia. I'm typing this on my PC, instead of what I normally do which is using the phone to dictate messages, posts, texts, etc. You know like just about everybody does. I live in the US so naturally it's going to use Columbia, not Colombia when dictating.

I came here simply seeking information, not to argue over something as insignificant as the misspelling of a foreign country. A "Hey it's Colombia, not Columbia, here's some info" message would have been cool.

I just started using the Intl site last year, have been on the US site for about 20 years. There, at least in my area, we remembered when we were green and helped new users find information, did encourage them to research but did not rudely turn them away and provided them some info.

I expected the information to much easier to get here since it's a foreign country for most and things are totally different when it comes to mongering, the US is pretty much the same everywhere with a few variations by region. And since their laws are different, I though info would be free flowing.

Oh well, I guess I'll search other resources online.

Thanks to those who were willing to share info, it is truly appreciated!