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Most Caracas dance clubs/discos will be found in the Las Mercedes area. What's hot at the moment tends to alternate, ask around, but your odds of finding a "part time" pro at a happening disco will be much smaller. Most girls in happening places don't need to ho, though there might always be an exception or two.
Be advised that 99% of Venezuelan discogoers are under 30, 75% under 25, the older crowd tends to go out to different venues.
Since the mall tends to be the social epicentre of a Venezolana's life, yes, you will have a chance to see and perhaps meet many of them there (if you are somewhat fearless).
Bizz Traveler
07-09-04, 21:37
I will be going to Caracas the week of July 18 to July 22. I am staying in the Tamanaco hotel, close to Las Mercedes. Can anybody advize me on some action please, preferably walking distance from the hotel. I presume you cannot take a girl into the hotel, so what are the other options that are safe. Thanks for the advize. I love the forum. I am more familiar with Argentina and Costa Rica, so I may post some good reports myself in those sections.
Well, I have just arrived back in New York. Caracas was fun and interesting. I stayed at the Cumberland hotel, which was nice, girlfriendly, and close to all. I exchanged money at the airport and got 230,000/100usd. I was shown a place on Casanova Ave, just 4 blocks from the hotel that gave 250,000. Edificio Volta, and the place around the corner from it was interesting. I did about 10 different women there. The price was 20,000 or about 8 bucks for a session. Many were pretty bad, but their were some nice ones. Greek was available for about 10,000 more. So for about 12 bucks, I had some good times. They are open 24 hours, and you can make arraignments to have the girl come to your hotel later. I did two from SexyCaracas. Alison was hot, but was very mechanical, constantly asking if it was good, which for 190,000 (76usd) it was acceptable. (greek included). Then Pantera on Thursday, she was worth the trip. I had initially scheduled 3 hours with her. She is 180,000./ 1.5hours. So I ended up paying 360,000 (144usd). She ended up staying about 6 hours, and it was great. Total GFE, and she loves anal sex. Kept asking me to do her over and over again. She would bbbj until I was ready and then beg for me to do her. She instructed me how she liked it, She also did one bbbjtc/cim while we were 69ing. I have to say she was the best pfp that I have had in a long time. She had wanted to spend the night, but I was so exhausted, that I sent her home. Here is one of the photos I took of her. Thinking of going back in one or two weeks. Oh the bad news was that at the airport when I was leaving, they thought I was drug trafficking. I almost missed my flight, and ended up getting a radiograph to prove I was not carrying drugs. Pissed me off so bad. After all was over and they let me go, they said it was because I was only there for 4 days. But now they know me and I wont have a problem if I come back. Is it worth it? Check the photo. Again thanks to all who made this trip a success.
Chazman
Hi,
This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.
I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it very difficult to read a report that is written as one long block of text. It's kind of like trying to eat an entire steak in one bite.
I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key every few sentences while you're writing, and thus break your report into smaller paragraphs, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.
Thanks,
Jackson
Here is another one of Pantera. She says she will change her name on the website.
The photo's a bit blurry... is she wearing glasses?
also, did you pay her extra for the added 3 hours she stayed?
did she want to be paid for staying all night??
I will admit that is the one sexycaracas girl that I'd long thought about trying it out with.
is the chest "silicone"??
is she Venezuelan, or Brazilian??
it now seems she's changed her "war-name". Her new name on the site is Afrodite. Judging by your pic, she's put on a couple of lbs since the sexycaracas. photos?
Chazman,
Thanks mucho for your report. For example, I was wondering about the exchange rate available from porters at the airport and about Hotel Caracas Cumberland. It is the cheapest hotel in Caracas listed on the few hotel agency sites found through google.com.
Other hotels mentioned by our fellows are apparently accessible through a direct telephone call. I like to book through the internet. However, after contacting Cumberland direct through the internet, it wanted a fund transfer for the first night's reservation transferred to its bank account.
Catire,
Your frequent posts on Caracas are invaluable. You stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the other reputed Caracas info-sharing expertos named Bogey and Zippy. Thanks, amigo.
One suggestion: when you post, would you kindly cite the latest black market rate for bolivars, at least weekly and what seems to be affecting the rate. For example, the exchange rate for the banana republics of Central America would be expected to drop in October and November, when local exporters of agricultural products would be paid in US dollars. However, other factors would inversely affect the rate.
Of course, the savings may be only pennies. But, it could be worth the cost of another cold Polar. Meserzo, traigame otra fria, ni una chica fria o americana.
The Stand In.
Again thanks to all who helped make this trip such a success, expecially Catire. Here are the answers to the questions.
1. She did not charge for the extra 3 hours
2. She said no charge for the overnight, but we would only sleep
3. She says her father is Dominican
4. She has a perfect bod.
Thinking of going again week of july 26. Thanks again all. Chazman. Heres another pic.
I've already talked about this a bit.
Rates at airport actually tend to be quite competitive, but not for non Spanish speaking gringos.
what you have to remember re hotels is that most of the hotels directed at tourist/especially foreign market are the preposterously expensive so called "5 star places". I also suspect you can get a better rate than 62 bucks a night if making a reservation locally, and paying in bolivares. If you want to make reservations on the Internet, you will have to pay "Net tourist pricing".
black market rate changes. Check the Venezuelan press, there's a way to figure it out based on value of the CANTV stock on Caracas' stock exchange as well.
Zippy is indeed a treasure, I blush just to be mentioned in his company, but that other guy probably couldn't hold my jockstrap :)
you want to say "mesenero", right?
and the "penny" savings are only that when prices are dollarized and compared to what an American/Western European might make back in his home country. This is of course a typical idiot tourist mistake. THe savings in local pricing, in terms of local earning/purchasing power are often SIGNIFICANT.
Chazman,
Your last picture was much better and showed a beauty. You, lucky guy, you.
Catire,
Sorry for not explaining what I meant by the pennies on the black market rate. Chazman got Bs 2,300 for a US dollar at the airport. If the average black market rate during mid-July was Bs 2,500, then the Bs 200 difference on a $100 would be Bs 20,000 or about $8. That would be about the price of a beer in a better strip club in the U.S. I have to check out the price of CANTV, as you suggested.
Hotels can be over-priced. One value of this discussion board is finding the good hotels and how to get the lower rate. But, even a good hotel can have a lousy room or two, which can provoke negative comments from a fellow contributor. I guess, for me, I rather take a chance on a so-called four-star or agency-recommended hotel for a first visit and, once there, look around for cheaper hotels within my acceptable range of quality. One web site rated Hotel Caracas Cumberland as four-star. At least, it should be better than a two-star hotel.
Meserzo - wrong. I should have spelled mesero or camarero. When my tongue is thick with beer fuzz, I probably do say meserzzzo. "mesenero" is the month of January?
By the way, is "Spiderman 2" the movie being shown in Caracas? Or, does Caracas get US movies several months later after the US showings? How much would a ticket usually cost?
The Stand In.
Went to Caracsas last month, stayed at the Hilton, was originally booked at the Radisson Eurobuilding. Had my homework done at the internet and checked out the www.sexycaracas.com site, since not to many englishfriendly sites were available. Falled in love with the Adara add. Had send her a mail and received a answer to call when in Caracas. However, she was only spanisspeaking so I ask my driver to set the date for 18.00 which she confirmed. at around 18.00 the Reception called me to come down and register my visitor, so I went down and reconized the Lady rightaway, nicly dressed and with warm smile, gives always a good start. She had to show her ID to the clerk, they took the details and off we went. Well had seen the gringo prices on the web, but finally a became less expensive we settled for 4 hours = 350 USD.
Sespite comunicating only with hands and bits of spanish and english phrases it turned out to be a lovely evening, had 2 bootles of cahmpagne brought with me so everybody got in the mood. She went to the bathroom and returned only in stockings and high heels and those huge boobs. She was an real pro, who did all perfectly well, kissing me deep, kissing my entire body, deepkissing my anus, leaking my balls, sucking all, anal sex no problemo. We did this several times this evening and the 4 hours passed quickely leaving me by the end a very happy fellow. Even though the price was high a well invested money.
Needless to say she was very clean and very friendly.
Tried to contact her the next day again, but no luck, so called a lady named Pantera, black girl, speaking some english, met her in the Lobby and we went up to the room by crossing the poolarea, so no fee paid. I wanted her to stay longer, but she kind of was not well dressed, and as well had a kind of smell. So did a short one and send her off.
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I guess you didnt like Pantera/Afrodite as much as the other guy, eh?
350 bucks by four is almost 80 bucks per hour.
Which would be 80 x 2500 which is = 200, 000 bolivares an hour.
Adara seems to be Ms. SexyCaracas for this particular viewing period.
Which makes sense. Venezuelans love those blondes with huge tits, no matter if the silicone makes them bigger than the girl's head.
for 2 hours she wants 460K plus an extra 80 for anal (which is usually a red flag, means she doesnt enjoy it)
Actually looks like you got yourself a decent deal and even a discount , based on proper bolivar based rates.
Jacks 01:
Hope you had fun. Going rate is about $200 for overnight and $50 for an hour of room service. The rate will be even less if you changed dollars for Bolivars at the airport with unofficial changers.
Catire:
Tries to find hotel Rosalinda using your directions. Sorry no luck after walking around for an hour. Thanks for help anyway.
that's because Rosalida is off on a little side street where a lot of love hotels are, called Calle Guaicapuiro (or something like that, I can't recall exactly now). It's precisely a block off Casanova once you head down the little hill just below the Chacaito commercial center area.
I didn't want to bother posting specific directions since I figured you'd get into the immediate vicinity and then ask around???
Hey Guys,
I am looking to renting a one bedroom apartment in Caracas for about 1 month. From the 31st Aug-end Sept. Has to have kitchen & cooking facilities, safe area within easy reach of amenities.
Would appreciate any help or advise.
Thanks,
Steve
one month might be difficult. Few people want to rent for such a short time. You might have to get one of those apart-hotels for shorter term stays.
here are some hints:
do NOT pay in US$, but in bolivares and do not accept quotes in US$
live east of Chacaito.
look thru the classifieds in www. eluniversal.com if you can speak/read Spanish.
there are also sometimes ads for this in the Daily Journal, the English language daily in town (no, they don't have a website)
If you were willing to stay at least several months, you could probably get a very nice place for $300 US/monthly (converted at black market rate in Bolivares)
Arrived in Caracas for a few days of fun. At the airport, a man in a white shirt and tie offered a taxi and an exchange rate of 2,200 bolivars per dollar. This seemed low and I told him that I heard the rate was closer to 3,000. He brought his friends over to tell me that 2,200 was the going rate. I declined his offer.
No one in the Sabana Grande area or the clubs have mentioned anything about needing dollars. I have been getting bolivars from an ATM at almost exactly 1,900 bolivars per dollar. When I get my bank statement, we will see if there were any transaction charges added on.
I met for the first time a fellow American, who told me his handle. From his suggestions and advice, I would have to call him, EXtra-informative CAT-man-did. He has been very helpful, but he likes to visit the good places by himself. He calls it, flying solo for more action. He confirmed that he also got the same offer of 2,200 at the airport, non-interest in dollars, and is using an ATM.
The hotel rate is 1,730. A casa de cambio, or money exchange business store, quoted me 1,710.
It is a little too early for me to form my impression of Caracas. But, EC said that Caracas has its good points and its not-so-good points for us older guys. I do not have much for comparison. But my initial opinion is that Buenos Aires is better than Caracas and about as expensive for girls and more expensive for drinks.
Athough I doubt if I would return to Caracas unlike Buenos Aires, it has been fun exploring a new city and experiencing the quirks of the culture. Thanks to everyone for their reports and advice.
The Stand In.
CATIRE
Thanks for the tip ! I take it that the area you recommended aint far from all the action.
tango1one
Bogey, Catire, Zippy, and other fellow visitor-writers,
Big thanks for your Caracas leads!
Stan,
Thanks for your appreciative words. Like you, this is really my first visit too to Caracas, since I was last here almost 20 years ago and did not have a chance to run around. I have enjoyed our chats, which made me realized how expectations can overreach based on other reports and no self-description by the writers. In our chats, you have expressed some unhappiness with the Caracas scene. What I have told you apparently has not stuck. Maybe these written words on my main themes will help.
First, we are older men. It is unrealistic to expect a girl in her early 20s or younger to become emotionally attracted to a man 20 or more years older. Sure, it could happen but the odds are against you. Second, we are in a modern city with millions of people. Here there is a constant bombardment of ads that shape the viewers´sense of beauty. For the girls, it is not pudgy, middle-aged men.
Third, the minimum expectation of civilized girls is not an average guy. In Central America and in small towns like those in Colombia outside of Bogota, most of those girls are satisfied with any guy who has a steady job. Civilized girls, though, expect a guy with a good-paying job, at the least. Fourth, the girls in the clubs, hotels for play, escort agencies, and similar for-pay venues are not the kind of girl who will spend her time going for a long walk in the park with you just to talk about philosophy and literature and to enjoy mutual man-woman friendship.
Fifth, you have to pay more than the market rate to get a girl who will be an actress to play the type of girl you desire. Sixth, you have a preference for blancas and mestizas and not for negras, mulattas, and pure indiginas. That is okay, because everyone has different taste. That alone explains why you like Buenos Aires more than Caracas.
Seventh, one should speak some Spanish to develop friendships, which you do a little of. I mention this because it is important.
I like Caracas more than you do. I am here for a long weekend, just for some mattress action and some entertainment. The girls in the clubs and hotels for pay are eagerly friendly, though most would not be allowed to enter a Miss Universe contest and they continually say trago.
Last Saturday night, I saw the best "show girl with male customer" spontaneous act ever -- even better than similar shows in San Salvador, El Salvador when some chicas in the middle of their act will spray beer on nearby customers. I had not laughed so hard in years and the crowd was cheering loud and long during and at the end of the act. Sorry, you were not there to see it. But, I move erratically between clubs and hotels for play.
Costs at the exchange rate of Bs 1900 = US$1 are high, but that is the luck of the draw and thanks to the drop of the value of a dollar due to Bush´s war on conservative Islam, deserved or not. At one hotel, payment was accepted in US dollars at a rate of Bs 2350 = US$1.
All in all, Stan, you are a romance traveler looking for the perfect woman. By contrast, I and most writers on this board are not. We are hedonists trying to enjoy the earthly delights before the veil on this corporeal consciousness we call life draws shut.
Enjoy those silicon valleys of Caracas.
I clearly stated that recently (more specifically after it was announced that the referendum would take place after all, on Aug. 15th)
that the exchange rate had dropped to 2500-2600 to 1 on the black market. I also clearly stated that you'll likely get offered 2200 or 2300 at the airport. See my earlier posts. No way were you going to get anywhere close to 3000.
There is demand for dollars but you have to know where to go, or simply have to be rather upfront and ask around. As a a gringo tourist, it'll be difficult for you to get a good rate. Rather, they see you as prime stupid target meat for casa de cambio or hotel rates of 1700 to 1 (this would be utter INSANITY)
If Buenos Aires is a "better" destination for sex tourism, all the better for Caracas which remains basically unsullied by it.
Tango - the area would not be far away from the "action".
but if you are going to spend any serious length of time in town, stay away from the hos and hang out with regular girls. Assuming you're not a troll and you've got some game, many will be interested in hanging out with you. It's the way to go.
Ex-man,
you say:
" Costs at the exchange rate of Bs 1900 = US$1 are high, but that is the luck of the draw and thanks to the drop of the value of a dollar due to Bush´s war on conservative Islam, deserved or not. "
First of all, costs at 1900 to 1 are NOT really that expensive. Consider the fact that several years ago, costs were calculated at 700 to 1, and if I assume you are talking about costs associated with hoing around, then those costs have remained fairly stagnant, though costs of everything else have skyrocketed. Several years ago, taxis in Caracas cost more than taxis in NYC and girls cost almost what escorts charge in the US, on par with preposterous Argentine prices before their economic collapse.
The drop in the dollar (as well as its rise) have NOTHING NOTHING and nada to do with Bush or his war. Rather it has everything to do with Chavez, the internal political situation and the original restrictions on issuing of dollars once an official exchange rate was decreed. (keep in mind that the dollar freely floated vs Bolivar up until almost 2 years ago) The recent dollar mini tumble is due to the fact that there will be a referendum and because Cadivi has loosened up on their issuance of dollars to businesses as well as allowing Venezuelan dollar based Credit cards for their trips abroad. Bottom line - exchange rate has nothing to do with Bush or American foreign policy.
btw.., getting 2350 to 1 in current circumstances (with rate at 2500 to 1) was a pretty decent deal. Congratulations.
Spent four days in Caracas. There is absolutely nothing to do(sightseeing) so only thing left was to find some shaved pussy. Stayed at upscale Gran Melia Hotel. Room rate $130 per night. Centrally located. In spite of directions from others on this board could not find Hotel Rosalinda. Could not find "pick up" kind of bars. Bars around were working men's bars with guys drinking, so used agencies. Very positive experience.
First agency I called was at 0414-260-8831. All numbers starting with 0412, 0414, 0416 and 0418 are cell numbers and you have to dial full number including the zero. Talked to a lady Claudia who spoke enough English. Arranged to meet a girl called Dalay (pronounced like in Dalai Lama of Tibet). 21 years, trim, blond, shaved pussy. Allowed DATY, BBBJ and true GFE. Negotiated overnight rate of 400,000 bolivars (less than $200). Liked her well so arranged with her directly for next day. She came at 11AM and stayed til midnight for 400,000. Went to dinner, sat in pool and fucked. Truely positive experience. She does not smoke and has asthma attack around smokers. Her real name is Yessica. Hardly any English but great company.
Used another agency at 0414-131-2933. Spoke to a Felix who can understand English. Arranged to have Stefany (real name Darling - she showed me her passport with that name). A law student, 20 years old, blond, big boobs and loves DATY. Hourly rate was 120,000 and negotiated for two hours at 200,000 (less than $100) and had great time. She does not speak English. Has e-mail address, if you need it send me a private message. Will try to post pictures but I am new to uploading pictures. Both of the above agencies phone numbers were taken from sexycaracas.com site.
Local newspaper (not the la nacional but the one called la Universal or La internacional or something like that) has lots of classifieds. Must have knowledge of some Spanish. I tried without knowing Spanish so could not communicate. I was very pleased with service and reasonable prices. Hotel Gran Melia was girlfriendly but upsacle. Girls were impressed.
Happy mongering.
European Guy
07-22-04, 22:23
Are there any dating sites targeting the Venezuelan people. I know there are sites like mejoramor.com and cybercupido.com targeting the latin america people, but are there also sites targeting only venezuelan people.
Thanks in advance.
The Melia is probably the most expensive hotel in town.
They damn better have been impressed.
Not sure what you mean by 'pick up' bars, but if you mean like a disco with freelancing prostitutes hanging around, that doesn't exist in Caracas, unless you go to one of the after hour discos that many hookers like to frequent and she's in the mood/needs the money.
Lashon Aroch
07-25-04, 23:04
Gina pics.
Lashon Aroch
07-25-04, 23:06
More Gina.
LittleDickPride
07-27-04, 04:44
Hi fellows!
Do you know of any mid-price extended-stay hotels in Caracas? I could have to be there for one month and the location does not really matter (Sabana Grande, El Rosal, Las Mercedes ...) as long as it is reasonably safe. Thanks.
Take it easy!
LDP
Catire:
I was talking about bars/clubs like Blue Marlin in San Jose, Costa Rica, where pros and semi-pros are prowling and any good (or bad looking) girl can be had for the right and reasonable price.
Tasty, in effect the same thing, a bar OR disco with freelancer, a la Blue Marlin doesn't exist in Caracas.
Hi all,
I am thinking about going back to Caracas next week for a few days. I met this girl on line who lives about 45 minutes away by plane "Porto Ordaz". I will arrive at 9pm again and will go straight to the Cumberland Caracas hotel. I will try to arrange Pantera again for a few hours, then will go back to airport to catch the next flight to her area. Does anyone know if the national airlines has a website for incountry travel? I will stay with this girl (woman) tuesday to thursday and head back to Caracas for the night. Anyone recomend someone else from Sexy Caracas? Well I hope that I do not have problems at the airport again.
Thanks for any info.
Chazman
Chazman ... the national airline is Aeropostal ....
Go to Yahoo and do a search for them ... it's website will come up.
Puerto Ordaz and the adjoining city of San Felix comprise what is now officially called Ciudad Guyana, though no one call it that, and most Venezuelans still say Puerto Ordaz.
It's basically a mining city with some foreign companies also around town. I heard it's one of the most expensive cities in Venezuela.
Aeropostal might have flights down there (try www.aeropostal.com) , but that airline is mostly used for international travel. There will be at least several others who will fly down there (these will be airlines mostly used for travel within the country). go to a travel agency.
Here's a tip, the prices will be dollarized but under the official exchange rate. Therefore if you get a decent black market rate, which isn't as good as it used to be, you will save yourself more money by paying in cash in bolivares.
If you're making last minute reservations your price will also be higher. I would expect a ticket from Caracas to there and back to cost you anywhere from 150K to 250K bolivares.
TO Experience Mongers
I am doing my due dilligence on Caracas before I go and I really need your help and advise on this topic. I alway carefully research a place before I decided if I would like to visit
I have had the privilege to read some fairly enlightning points on Caracas mongering from various highly imformed sources on this forum.
However one topic that hasn't been covered is the local modelling agencies. My travelling experiences to Italy, Paraguay, Chile, Cuba as well as here in NYC tell me that some of the best untapped talent lies within these "modelling or talent" agencies. I have contacted some local photographers/pimp(as they are in NY) as well as some of these agencies to set up some possible dates today and we'll see what develops.
agencies include
www.modelosv.com
www.modelosdevenezuela.com
I understand that these are legitimate modelling agencies, blah blah blah as some people keep telling me but my experience in other countries tell me that at least an 1/8 to possibly 1/4 of these model/promotional models(depending on which site you look at) are or will get down with the program if your game and/or pockets are deep enough...the hardest part is just getting in the door and setting up initial dates
Has any of you caracas fellow mongers: ect. Explored this route?Please share your experiences. My intention is to go no later than OCT. once I have made the proper contacts. I hope to see some of you down there and hopefully explore this together
OK, It's official!
I will be going to Maracay, but so far no posts are in that thread. Can anyone give me some advice on clubs, hotels and other places to have some good times? You can PM me or put something in the Maracay thread so we can all share.
I was planning to caracas and Buenos Aires in November.
Other countries posts have said to avoid Caracas due to safety.
I like to go out to the bars/clubs as well as just the pros.
Can you give me an idea of just how safe the city is?
Obviously I will not go to the bad areas.
I just don't want to have to be in a hotel to club and back situation.
Any suggestions for a third city in SA destination?
I have done Rio. The Caracas and BA girls seem my type.
I am not too keen on the Columbian ones.
Sao Paulo maybe?
Any ideas?
Travelmen ... I don't understand when you say you think Caracas and BA girls are your type but you don't like Colombian ones ... Colombian girls physically can be light skin with light hair to dark morenas ... and everything in between ... their bodies just like the Venezuelans' ...
Hi Ricker
Where in Columbia would you suggest? I have looked a bit closer since your post, and now I see what you mean.
I was looking for a good party city with a bit to do, and the lighter skinned Columbians. A more English speaking city also, if there is one.
Maybe Cali?
Any comments about the safety of caracas?
Ferolga777
08-16-04, 19:48
Rob Hay
May i ask what does your experience consist of? We all know that fashion shows are filled with rich men looking for dates.
If you have done this is in other countries, I ask, how much has it cost you? Are we talking paying her regular hourly fee for a date that then becomes a regular wooing challenge?
I can see this working out, if you are a real party guy. Get two girls to go with you to the most happening discos. Bring friends, cool friens [Never invite me, I'm a dork] . I'm already dancing in front of my computer. You rent a limo for the night. Fast seduction, here I come.
Get some coke, give it to the models, yeah! I see this going on all the time.
Ferolga
Travelmen ... if you like the lighter skin chicas and a prettier city .. I suggest Medellin over Cali ... PM me if you want for a buddy's email that runs an intro service there.
I love Caracas also but it's definitely not the safest city ... there are nice areas though.
By the way ... the Venezuelan chicas generally are more dark skin than the Colombiana ... especially the Medellin chicas.
Personally, I love the dark skin morena ... for that, I love Caracas and coastal Colombia.
Hi friends,
I just came back fom a trip to caracas and feel asked for some adds to this board.
1. 100s of freebes are available on amigos.com. you need to understand at least some spanish. some of the girls, however, do well in english. the page is strange even if you dont like to pay for (as all the girls). but contacting works. venezuelians are kind of crazy with singlepages.
2. as a gringo in good shape you will easily find a girlfriend in the area of shopping center St. Ignacio (especially later of a week). you might be aware that venezuelian girls looking for well built men rather than just money.
Happy hunting,
ziggy29star
Thanks Ricker.
Any idea of Sao Paulo over Columbia?
Tommy r Us
08-19-04, 23:37
Hi Guys,
I'm back in town for some meetings and am wondering if anyone has had experience with the Penthouse short time hotel in La Castellana?
In Paraguay I had a hookup with a model agent type/pimp name Brandon. He hooked up a semi known Paraguayian model name Helem Roux for 120/hour, expensive for Paraguay yes but considering all the dogs I saw roaming the streets. Not such a bad option.
My Spanish is not so good that I can go into a nightclub and just start talking smack to girls so I kindof need a guide/pimp. Obviously one that has model connections are the best and I am emailing with an agent at V models, we'll see how it goes.
I hope that someone might have these types of connections already set up.
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LittleDickPride
08-20-04, 05:08
Hi fellow mongers:
I am considering settling in Caracas, as I have a job opportunity at USD 4,000 monthly, which is a fair amount of money in Bolivares (12,000,000) with which you can live a very decent life in Caracas.
My question is where to live in? Are Las Mercedes and El Rosal too upscale? Can anything mid-scale be found in Chacao. I was told that actually two very convenient locations for the fairly well-off are La Florida and Palo Verde. Do you agree?
I would like to live not too far from a metro station, with commercial centers around, as well as a good gym and some place to jog outdoor. On the other hand, I would not mind taking a taxi to go to a restaurant or partying, as I don't do that that much anyway. Can you recommend something?
In addition to reading the Universal' ads and visiting randomly a couple of realtors, would you provide tips, such as people you recommend? Thank you.
Once I have settled in, I may be able to accomodate some fellow mongers. BTW, you should be advised that it is very easy to date Venezuelan, once you are funny and speak a decent Spanish.
Take it easy!
LDP
LittleDickPride
08-20-04, 05:11
Any brother around Caracas in Sept-Dec?
Yes, if any brother is around within this time frame, it would be great to congregate once in a time and party in the right places.
Please, those who fit, let me know.
Best,
LDP
Damn I missed it....last week Delta was running a special from NYC to Caracas $315 round trip for all travel next month. I am definately in for Caracas Sept-Dec once I get these model connections sorted out down there.
Hopefully all the street protestings and demonstrations will stop by the time i get there.
Ferolga you seem to have the right idea with the discos, from what i hear model quality chicks hang out at Dadys Latino disco. Hopefully we can get a good gathering of eager mongers together to do this mission
With pretty decent rates now from NYC I am thinking of going Sept 9th,16, or 23rd for an extra long weekend. So I am definately in for next month. I'm trying to convince some other mongering buddies of mine. Shouldn't be hard considering the wealth of talent, but pro and non pro in Caracas.
if you think the hotties at DadisLatino will give a "group of mongers" their time of fucking day... you are in dream dream land.
let me know when your group is coming so I can possible have the entire experience videoed for my personal amusement.
best nights used to be Thursday nights.. that's the cool people/beautiful people night, especially in upstairs VIP room.
Dadis might not even be the hot place on Thursday nights in CCS anymore. The nightlife shifts quickly there.
Ferolga777
08-24-04, 06:14
Rob Hay
Helem Roux is nice. I dig her. I don't pay more than 50 USD per hour in Latin America for a woman of that caliber.
I've been known to walk away when they wouldn't budge on price. I always ask myself, is she really going to be that much better than my hand? [There's a Reddd Foxxx routine on that.]
But that's not relevant to your quest.
What I have in mind may not be what you have in mind. I have in mind a whole con job. You are a big video producer looking for that Latina look. You get the mood modifiers [the coca cola and the doritos]. And it's all about the party, mon. Getting laid is an afterthought. And it's not what the party is about.
This can work but I'm not comfortable talking about it here. It's like talking about how to pick a lock.
Ferolga
Catire,
I am all for your videotaping...My friends tell me it is very amusing
But You know what..you never know whats going to happens unless you try....Its like any club here in New York its just a numbers game and if your dont mind getting reject a few times which i could care less...
Ferloga,
I am totally with you on just partying and seeing what happens from there. Its just all about having a good time
Regarding Helem I do regret putting her full name on the board as she is a know model in Paraguay and not a full time *****. I hate putting her info all over broadway but oh well too late.
I see where your coming from with not really wanting to pay but i figured if I'm going to spend all the money on a business class ticket, pay for a nice hotel, why but cheap and spend on a cheap piece of ass when i can go first class?
I got in touch with a photographer in Venezuela who seems pretty cool and I'll pm you his site he seems in touch with the scene down in Caracas and seems to be down with the program. He says he'll be back in Caracas in 12 days and any time after that I can go down and we'll see
Hey what do i have to lose? Its worth a try to check out the scene.
Big John 55
08-27-04, 21:26
I will be traveling to Caracas in a couple of weeks and staying at the Embassy Suites. I noted a post that said it was visitor friendly. Can anyone else confirm that it is a good hotel? Are there any action locations near the Embassy Suites or would incall services be the best option?
Thanks,
Big John
Big John 55
08-28-04, 04:13
Ran across a free translation site that may be of interest and helpful in sorting out the classified adds for those who do not habla too well.
http://ets.freetranslation.com/
Are there any Rio type HELP clubs in Caracas at the moment for seeing and takeing out pro's?
Catire mentioned one some time back. I think a druggy sort of place that gets busy around 4am.
Is that still around, what is the quality like?
What is the best place to go a bit earlier?
I shall be there in November if any one wants a beer.
Big John 55
08-30-04, 00:44
Sorry,
The correct link is as follows:
http://www.freetranslation.com/
Ferolga777
08-30-04, 19:45
Rob Hay
<<<<Regarding Helem I do regret putting her full name on the board as she is a know model in Paraguay and not a full time *****. I hate putting her info all over broadway but oh well too late.>>>
I wouldn't worry about that in this case. You are merely claiming that you slept with her for a fee. You didn't post a photo of her naked on your bed. Quite frankly. No one knows that you did sleep with who you claim to have slept with.
She has nothing to worry about. Yet.
And for next time do what I do. I slept with an Oprah Winfrey lookalike. She was great.
Ferolga
Rob Hay
depends on what you will do.
Deception and creating a "party scene" is one thing.
going with a "group of mongers" into a hotspot disco and walking up to girls younger than your daughers and saying:
"Yo honey, we're a group of mongers from the world famous wsg, how much for the cuca?"
THAT my friend, I would pay for a videotape of THAT.
actually, I have to admit that ferolga's "party" idea is probably the best one (so long as you're not old enough to be her granddad- or some other assorted troll)
Keep in mind you're not talking about professional hos here.
You refer to normal/regular girls who "might" be open to a tryst with perhaps even some renumeration involved.
I remember this cabbie told me a story once how he picked up a girl at a front of a disco in Las Mercedes one night (almost morning), she was massively fucked up.. they talked..
next thing you know she suggests they go to a love motel..
She fucks the shit out of him for a couple of hours.. he drops her off back home.
then calls her the following day...
and she tells him
"I don't know you Señor, please stop calling my cellphone!"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLL!!!!
p.s. btw, If you're over 35, look it and dress the way I'd imagine a "group of mongers" might dress going out hoing.. you won't even get into Dadis Latino. or a similar spot. There's usually a huge line, especially on a hot night and they pick who they let in (though a BIG tip in bolivar terms will probably help with this particular problem, so long as you don't look downright embarrassing)
Ferolga777
08-30-04, 22:44
Catire
<<<I remember this cabbie told me a story once how>>>
I asked a cab driver once why was it that so many of them talked about sexual incidents with passengers. I found it absurd.
His answer was practical and made sense, "We are there and we are not expected home for a while."
Party on, dude
Ferolga
Ferolga777
08-30-04, 22:53
Here's ONE way to do the party.
http://www.exile.ru/171/feature_story.html
It's all fairly common sense and you can make the project smaller so that it comes across as more believable.
Also, keep in mind that I'm more like the Dennis Hopper character in Apocalypse Now, man. Than I am the guy to make this shi-at happen. Can you wrap your frontal lobe around that? Yeah.
Ferolga
One place where my attempted modelizing did not work was in Barranquilla, COlombia. I attempted to pickup a former queen of Carnival name Catherine Lafaurie....she can be found on the site
www.latindreamtours.com under the bikini contest photo....there are alot of girls in the contest that all hang out in the Disco Matraca and La Quinta, and she is the first girl with the photo in the section.
Well I wrote her and sent her my picture which she found to be cute and later met her but she obviously did not find my act amusing. She is no hoe so i didn't bother taking it in that direction. That night I went to Lucitania and bang a pretty hot chick from Medellin, i'll try to dig up some fotos...i know I posted it on some other sites just have to dig it up
I highly recommend using the Barranquilla dating agencies
I used:
southamericanladies.com
And www.barranquillabeauties.com
In both instances I avoided paying money for the sal just go into the office and aquaint yourself with the girls. 1 is Karen she is 19, very friendly and will offer to take you out on the town and is very cool. The other I forget her name is a very important journalist in Barranquilla and knows EVERY good looking girl in the city. SHe invited me into her home and cooked lunch and dinner for me a few nights. The people of Barranquilla are amazingly friendly and I was just taken aback by their hospitality
The other agency was next to my hotel. A couple weeks before I went I purchase some addresses of the girls. When I went to the office I found that some of the girl's addresses were wrong so I got a little annoyed and they let me go through their book of girls for free and made calls to set up dates for me. It was an older women but also very nice and friendly and I highly recommend it
Hey all. Looking for help here again. Catire and all you others in the know. I met this hot girl on line and we are going to meet. The problem is it is not in Caracas. I will have to take a plane to Puerto Ordaz. Can I just buy a ticket when I arrive in the airport in Caracas, or will it be more expensive. I found some sites that show the fare as 200usd.
The second problem I have, is she wants me to stay in a expensive hotel in Puerto Ordaz. Mira Best Western is 120 per night. I found another near that is only 60 a night. Does anyone know a hotel near the Mira that is cheaper, but ok looking.
I dont think I will have time for any excess wandering, but this is not a sure thing. She is hot, more mature, and not desperate. So while GFE may happen, I want to have a back up plan.
Thanks for any advice people.
Chazman
Can I get a update on what the current black market rate is for dollars? I am going this Monday.
Thanks all.
Chazman
Catire:
I have searched the posts and can’t seem to find a mention of a good bar where pro’s go.
You mentioned the after hours bar in Chacaito, where ever that is. Is this place still open and safe for tourists?
So if it is where pros go after hours then where are they before?
Do you know of a good bar to find pros. Like Rio’s HELP ideally.
The sexycaracas site seems very hit or miss.
I am just trying to plan on how long to stay in caracas. I thought 6 days arriving on Thursday.
I would like to try Dadis, if not just to look. I am 30, dress OK and have got into similar places before.
If I can’t get in, at least I tried.
I assume Thu is still the night. What time does the line start, and is it in the centre?
Are there any non pro pick up places that are more down market?
I don’t suppose you ever meet wsg’s for a beer?
Thanks
Ferolga:
Good tips, and
I love the smell of fanny in the mornings!
JackDaniels
08-31-04, 23:46
Reading through this section, it appears that despite the reputed good looks of the women, there isn't that much to look forward to from a mongers point of view. I am planning my multi stop South American trip and I am not currently inclined to go to Cartagena or Caracas (or elsewhere in Venezuela). It looks like all the action is in Brazil and Argentina...or am I mistaken ?
JD,
Read my report of Barranquilla. I was very impressed with the place as an alternative for non pro hunting
I wouldn't give up on Caracas just yet I'll let you know after I go how i feel.
TheShadow2
09-01-04, 03:45
JackDaniels,
Pass on Cartagena and you'll be passing on heaven on earth.
The disco called "La Dolce Vida" in Cartagena is full nightly with solid 7-10's which can be had all night for about 50 bucks.
Brazil is off the hook, Argentina is good but expensive...
Hmmm...while I have been going to Colombia for years and love Cartagena as much as anyone, I have never seen a "10" working in LDV. Obviously, this is a subjective call, but I would say that the VAST majorty of LDV mujeres range from pudgy, older women a few years past their prime (I'd rate them about a "4") all the way to young (18-23), new, and lindas chicas who I'd rate in the "8" range. Sometimes, you'll find a couple of 8.5's.
But I certainly wouldn't go to LDV to find the mystical "10" - for if she is truly a "10" (which, IMHO, means flawless), she'll last about 5 minutes in Cartagena before some foreign tourist grabs her or she becomes some narco's novia. The main advantages of LDV chicas are their awesome attitudes and consistent GFE's IF you're a half-way decent guy. Me extrano Colombia y Venezuela muchismo!!
As far as a non-pro pick up bars in Caracas which are more "down market", I would recommend "Alcatraz" Discoteca in Las Mercedes. The girls there are usually middle to lower class and are very approachable. I've had great luck there especially on Monday nights which is ladie's night. By the way, this is Catire's discoteca favorita. :-)
Ferolga777
09-01-04, 15:56
Zippy
I agree with you. I didn't see a 10 in LDV.
It has been my experience that upscale Massage parlors are better to come across the better looking girls. And the girls know how to do what they do better.
I would say that I only saw two tens, maybe three in Bogota. One is the girlfriend of a succesful race car driver [Or, maybe I transferred my fascination with race cars to her.] The other was a Sofia Vergara look-alike [See Rob Hay, "look-alike" ;>)] in a massage parlor. It's insane, I can still go throught the experience frame by frame. Yeah, that what a ten implies.
Ferolga
JackDaniels
09-01-04, 22:37
Thanks for your response. CTG does look tempting. It sounds like nothing in the world compares to the Brasilieras - but I do like to travel, and mongering in different countries is a good objective, I think.
I guess Brazil and Argentina are "easier" and hence my enquiry "is it that good to make the trip to CTG or CCS ?". If I am passing through that's fine, but is it worth targetting CTG or CCS as a destination for getting good looking girls into my bed.
In other words, taking into account the "danger" in both these places (and the touts in CTG) and the additional hassle of getting there, I wonder if the attraction should be because the girls are the best or just because they are different.
BTW, shadow - your mail is full and I could not send you a PM.
Cheers.
TheShadow2
09-02-04, 18:33
Guys,
Actually upon reflection, I would agree with most of your sentiments. I guess I've never seen a "10" in LDV, if you are comparing to maybe a Playboy bunny or Miss Colombia finalist.
Having said that, I have seen the 8's and 8.5's in good supply every time I've been there. (Ok, this is like maybe 8 nights total, so maybe I was lucky.) But I do want to say this is a strict scale, I'm a picky guy when it comes to women and what I'll pay for.
I guess I was just enthusiastic about CTG, I think it's a pretty good place to monger, especially if you're interested in non-pros. The caliber of chica you'll see just walking down the street will keep your head on a swivel your entire trip. The working girls will do their best to make you fall in love, and they're good at it.The touts are annoying, but if you stay away from the beach you'll avoid 90% of them. The cost of everything else is dirt cheap, your money goes a long way there.
The danger in CTG is minimal, no more than any other big city. I could be wrong, but I would rate CCS as much more dangerous from the tales I've heard. I know no one who has been mugged or robbed in CTG, can't say the same for Caracas.
I'll be in CCS the night of the 7th, then on to Puerto La Cruz for 6 days. Hope to have a good report when I get back. I'll be happy if I can find the same quality of chicas in PLC as is in CTG :-)
P.S. I was unaware my PM box was full, I deleted a few to make room for any incoming PM's...
Forget CTG unless your into annoying touts. OK, Tony is riot to hang out with just as long as you keep him in check, but after saying no the 10th tout on the beach it gets a bit annoying.
And then they wait outside bars, cafes, rest. for you.
Unless you don't mind the constant harassment go to Barranquilla! Its one of my favorite spots all time I went there 3 times in 6 months. I can't talk this place up enough.
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TheShadow2
09-03-04, 14:30
Forum,
Can anyone make a recommendation for hotel in Caracas for my one night there? Chica friendly, safety are priorities, also wouldn't mind inexpensive...
Thanks in advance :-)
Good recommendations are the Embassy Suite hotel in Caracas, girl friendly and not too expensive, the Marriott, more expensive and lastly, the Eurobuilding and/or the Tamanaco. Avoid the Hilton at all costs as it is in a very unsafe part of town. The Melia is in a "red light zone" which has its ups and downs, but, IMHO, is not a comparable choice to the other hotels mentioned. "Inexpensive" hotels for your consideration may be 1) Best Western, 2) Paseo las Mercedes, 3) Continental Altamira, 4) Hotel Tampa and 5) Hotel Presidente. I rate these in order of safety and being in a relatively "decent" part of town. I have been robbed in various trips and, believe me, no saving in hotel rate can compensate for the hassle of losing documents and risking your personal safety during an international trip.
Good luck and happy mongering.
Be safe,
Be There
Shadow,
I think you will probably be disappointed with Puerto La Cruz. I have a very good friend who lives there and the P4P opportunities are limited to a few strip bars and a couple of clubs (some in shaddy areas). The scene is better in Caracas (and the P4P scene is Caracas is poor compared to Colombia and old Cuba).
However, PLC (much like many small Venezuelan towns) is a decent place to find a non-pro novias. So hang out at the malls, in the casinos and in the discos and you might just find your own personal Ms. Venezuela...
TheShadow2
09-04-04, 15:50
Zippy,
You're not pumping me up too much 4 days before I leave :-)
I will check out the casinos and clubs for sure, always looking for a non-pro before p4p anyway. Maybe I'll get lucky?
Should have some kind of report for you guys in a couple weeks.
Colombia is hard to top in my book also, but my last 2 trips have been there and my next trip this fall will also be there so wanted to explore a little and do some scuba diving etc.
Still not sure where to stay for my one night in Caracas, will keep reviewing the old posts here but would be nice for a recommendation from one of the Caracas veterans...
obviously you're not reviewing it all that well/thoroughly, since a guy talked about staying at the was it Hotel Cumberland right across the street from one of the American bars (Doral?) at an Internet rate of 60 bucks a nite? The area can be "slightly" dodgy at night, but there's an areperia just below a half a block at the intersection with Francisco Solano that is always full of cabbies, cops. etc
TheShadow2
09-05-04, 01:21
Catire,
You're right. My bad. Tried to take the easy way out, and ask someone to waste a few minutes typing a post, when I could have just spent a couple hours reviewing all 22 pages of this forum. If "a guy" says Hotel Cumberland works for him, then it's the place for me. Just misunderstood what this forum was for. But I got it now, thanks.
Shadow,
Didn't mean to bum you out before your trip! The PLC area has a couple of decent beaches so it's not all bad. And you very well could get lucky by discovering a decent P4P place. Good luck!
TheShadow2
09-05-04, 13:47
Thanks Zippy, will report back in a couple weeks, hopefully with a positive report :-)
What about the Tamanaco Intercont?
Is that chica friendly and a safe area?
Where to go and stay to find young women in Caracas?
Thanks
TheShadow2
09-10-04, 03:11
Zippy and all,
Hurricane Ivan canceled my trip. Airports were shut down, etc.
Hence, no report forthcoming. Back to work for me :-(
Is the Marriott much better than the Tamanaco?
Is it in a safer area, they seem pretty close?
I assume the Tamanaco is girl friendly.
Will any one be there from 4-11 November??
Ivan blew up my plans for last weekend. Travelman I dont think I can hold out until Nov though. I have jury duty the begining of next month, so hopefully soon thereafer.
I have been using www.latinamor.com and amigos.com to pretty decent result. It going to be a good time whenever.
I just talked to a buddy of mine who recommends this hotel
Paseo Les Mercedes. 130,000 bv per night including all taxes and breakfast
chica friendly
close to clubs,bars, malls, *****s
Can anyone recommend a good gym down there that the hotties go to? Experience tells me this is one of the better pickup spots even though i am one skinny dude.
Has anyone used a guide/driver/pimp/jinetero a la Cuba while in Caracas? Perhaps I'm just over researching this damn place too much and just need to go already, but i just want to be prepared and not waste time.
I've always love Colombia but lately Caracas has been calling my name ... even though I almost got mugged last week in Chacaito by two teenaged looking guys, a half block from my hotel.
This chica has me coming back for more ...
Just be careful out there ... always have your 'radar' on for bad guys ... don't carry what you can't stand to lose ... just in case.
Here's my chica that keeps me running back ...
... I love the morenas ...
TheShadow2
09-15-04, 13:14
Rob Hay,
I've got the number of a guy who can help you out in Caracas.
He's trustworthy, dependable, and speaks english. Will pick you up at the airport. I can't guarantee he has extensive knowledge of mongering locations, as the time I was there he was introduced to me by my then girlfriend, so I wasn't "mongering". But he did take me to a stripclub, and I'd be about 99% sure he could hook you up if that's what you wanted. PM me for his number if interested.
Ricker,
you showed some mighty fine AZZZZZZZ there:-)
IMHO that is a big fat 9.5....woweeee
And there's only one place on earth were you can gonna get it:
LATIN AMERICA.....right!!!
Love it.....
Johan
Just bought the ticket nonstop nyc to caracas $450. Ok guys so I'm going to Caracas on THursday, I was waiting for a friend of mine that is in Brazil right now to get back to NYC so we could go together but just I couldn't hold out any longer so I'm gonna do it alone. Its just going to be for 5 days 4 night just to check out the scene and if I like I'll definately be back for a longer period next time.
On one of the other boards I saw a rather cheap price for the Paseo Las Mercedes Hotel at 130,000bv has anyone had experience with this hotel. GIrl Friendly?I've heard conflicting reports regarding this place. Well I've still have time to look around.
I made some connections with some girls on latinamor.com and amigos.com and set up a couple dates, we'll see how that goes. ONe is a mega hottie but spends alot of time talking about GOd and how she wants a man who is completely devoted to serving God. Yikes, doesnt exactly sound like a sure thing in terms of getting laid but is shes as hot as her picture than its worth a crack at it.
Lastly has anyone use the services of Caracas Playboys list on the agency section of sexycaracas? They seem to have by far the highest level of talent and alot of know model in caracas so they say? SInce I get in pretty late Thursday night and may not be in the mood to go out this might be the best way to start the night.
Everything seems a bit pricy for a 3rd world country.hotels,chics,ect but what the hell why be cheap on a vacation.
Just bought the ticket nonstop nyc to caracas $450. Ok guys so I'm going to Caracas on THursday, I was waiting for a friend of mine that is in Brazil right now to get back to NYC so we could go together but just I couldn't hold out any longer so I'm gonna do it alone. Its just going to be for 5 days 4 night just to check out the scene and if I like I'll definately be back for a longer period next time.
ON one of the other boards I saw a listed price of 130,000 for the Paseo Las Mercedes Hotel has anyone had experience with this hotel. Girl Friendly???I've heard some conflicting reports about this place....allowing only one girl per day or something to that effect. Well I've still have time to look around.
I made some connections with some girls on latinamor.com and amigos.com and set up a couple dates, we'll see how that goes. ONe is a mega hottie and other I guess we'll just see. I'm 27, look decent enough, got enough game so I'm sure by the 2nd or 3rd date if its anything like COlombia I should be hitting skins.
Lastly, has anyone use the services of Caracas Playboys list on the agency section of sexycaracas? They seem to have by far the highest level of talent and alot of know model in caracas so they say? SInce I get in pretty late Thursday night and may not be in the mood to go out this might be the best way to start the night.
But this agency wants 300,000bv/hr for their top girl "Samantha Thomas",is this insane or what???This girl had better be the best looking girl in Venezuela for those prices. Even the top girls on sexycaracas want 200,000bv./hr neg. I wanted to check out Caracas because I thought this was an unspoiled scene unlike that of say Hotel Del Rey, Help/Barbarella but it seems these Venezuelan girls want simliar $$. I guess I spent so much time reseaching the non pros I didn't throughly reseach the p4p scene and I'm really surprised at the prices.
I know that this place has a reputation of having the most Miss Universes and all but I was under the impression that Venezuela is a 3rd world country like Colombia but both hotels and girls are charging way more than their Colombian counterparts. Theres no turning back now, I mean don't mind spending money, but they had better look the part.
TIckets already bought and I'm not gonna be cheap while I'm there but these Venezuelan better be 10x better looking than anything I've seen in my life. If one these 2,300bv/hr girls come over not looking like she just step off the runway she's getting sent right home, I've been a dickhead like that before and I'll do it again.
Dude, my guess is that you'll be sorely disappointed with the P4P scene in Caracas unless you have some serious cash to burn. You can find cute girls in the strip bars, through escort services and in the casas on Avenida Casanova for reasonable prices, but definitely way more expensive than Colombia.
You have to understand that Caracas was infested with gringo oil workers for decades and in general, people there have more money than other South American countries (although this is changing rapidly due to the recent political problems).
I still maintain that there was never a better time to meet NON-PROS in Venezuela if you can put in the time, however, P4P is spotty and expensive. I used to live in Caracas, where I had a novia, and then would vacation in Colombia...
Ok I arrived last night, my impressions are that this place looks exactly just like Bogota. I exchanged money at the airport 1-2550, I probably could have gotten a little more but i was ready to leave after a long flight and some haggling. From my conversations with other monger i knew that there are alot of shiesters especially at the airport.
Watch out for this scam. The guy i exchanged with try to use a smaller bills ( 2000 i think) mixed in with the 20,000, and he proceeded to count it as a 20,000 note. They look very similar and if your not really paying attention they will get you. Well having alot of experience in business dealing with these sorts(Russian,Ukrainians, Nigerian<--- watch out in these places) I was almost expecting something like this. I caught it the first time he counted but was curious to see if it was a mistake or if he was trying to scam me. He is a really idiot though he tried to slip 5 of them instead of just 1 or 2, I guess i just have screw me sign on my forehead. Hogs get slaughtered. I simply told him I exchanging elsewhere unless he gives me additional 50,000. I started walking away and of course he comes running back saying he wants to deal.
On to the mongering.
I got into the hotel late called everyone on my list from sexycaracas I had choosen out and nobody answered so i called caracas playboy and the girl i choosen wasn't available but he said he would send over his next best girl. I really dont remember the name but i do have some pics i will post when i get back to the states. I told the reception to tell the girl to go away if she is not looking right.
But i can say that I was very surprised at the service and how cool the girl was. It was a true GFE, BBBJ, couple positions and she stayed the full hour told her manager she was leaving and stayed an additional 30-45 minutes free and give me her number and to call her directly next time. 19-22? She was 5'9 120ish slim figure nice course. She was very hot but for the price she had better been. She wanted to go to disco Belle Epoque but i was drained with the flight and everything so made plans to go the the LOFT tonight. I also i have date with one of the latinamor girls at 8. That is if something better doesn't come along before now and then.
Keep you all posted
TheShadow2
09-26-04, 15:43
Rob,
Keep us posted amigo.
Hope our mutual friend helped you out...
Day 2 part 1
I couldn't sleep and woke up not entirely rested after only 4 hours of shuteye but i eager to see what Caracas had to offer. First i headed to a gym that was recommended from Fabiana called Valle Arriba Atletic Center. This place is a meat market, my driver/interpreter keep on pointing out different soap opera stars to me as they passed by, though theres no way i was going to score with any of them. BUt everyone seemed very friendly and eager to help. I did ask one of the guys for some name of popular discos in the areas, so he invited me to a party at Vintage, which is in San Ignacio, and put my name on the guest list. The cost was 40,000 for a 1 day guest pass. The facilities are pretty big, equpment is a bit old but i saw some of the hottest bods I've ever seen so it was a nice excersion.
I went back to the hotel and called my list on Sexycaracas again, and again i mostly didnt get through to anyone. I did get in touch with Sabrina so set up an appointment with her. She lives pretty close by and came 1/2 hour later. She said she would wait for me in lobby because she didnt want to go to the front desk. When i saw her from a distance I thought I really scored the prototype chic. 5'8-5'9 slim, model build, dressed very sexy and looked no older than 19,20. But upon closer inpection you could see that hard hooker eyes and the even harder attitude that came with it. She had a SPoke not a word for Enlish but know the lyrics to every Maroon 5 song. She didnt loosen the attitude until I started snapping pics of her which took a bit of convincing, but after that point she was very totally cool, and not a clock watcher even though the session went over on my count.
Again, pics i will post when i get back to NY. Her skills in bed more than made up for the hard eyes. I will say that her BBBJ are the best I have ever gotten in my life, and I have gotten quite a few. Her oral skills are very high and I would recommend a blowjob from her to anyone. She was also very good for sex too and she insisted on being on top. She rode me for a good 30-40, in different positions, shes got alot of energy and really knows how to move her body. After she came she just wanted to suck me off which I happily obliged and came in her mouth. IMHO i think everyone she try her if you have to time just based on her oral skills although she gave off a bit of a funny smell after comming and the hard pro eyes and initial hard pro attitude might be too much of a road block
Shadow: I met Reynotto at the airport but he told me his mother died 2 days prior and he seemed not to be in a very good or talkative mood as a result. He seemed very down and I didnt want to bother him as a result. Give him a call
if she wanted you to go with her to Belle Epoque, you are definitely under 30.
correct?
p.s. very cool club, btw better than the stuck up sifrino shit at the Loft, imo.
Guys,
I have to agree with Zippy here....Caracas girls are BIG time into $$$$$$$$ and/or into €€€€€€€€€€...:-(
Prices are at times ridiculously high!!!
Met some nasty spoild goldiggin'bitches on the web...LOL
Please DO speak spanish if you go!!
Johan
Catire,
Yes I am under 30
Zippy,
You are right regarding non pros but i was not disappointed with the P4P either though
Day2 part 2
After my session with Sabrina I met up with a Caracas based monger Be There, who was a great help with the planning of this trip. He was very helpful in giving my advise with different hotels, agencies, nightclubs and orientation with the city. He is a very nice guy and we had a few drinks and shot the shit and he, as well as just about everyone I have ever spoken to, did advise me to stay clear of the area around the Hilton. Well, inadvertantly did not heed the warnings and I found myself in a bit of a situation a little later in the evening.
I was invited by one of the girls from latinamor to see her tango company perform at the Teresa Carreno Theatre in downtown Caracas. I'm a bit late as we drove up to it and it is completely pitch dark in front of the entrance, so i definately didnt want to get out there. He finally drops me in front of a lighted section in front of the taxi stands. I walk into an upstairs bar/cafe thinking this was the entrance of the place. The bartender points me to go back to the pitch dark area of the entrance to the theatre. I look across the street and i see the Hilton Hotel and quite a few riff raffs that were in the bar coming in my direction. About this time i realized I made a pretty bad decision in coming here, so I just running to a waterfountain, luckily this lead to the side entrance of the theater I came running into the show just before the intermission. One of the ushers relayed to me the message that I was suppose to meet Iris outside the ticketing booth. DONT DO THIS EITHER. In fact you can just avoid this whole area.
I'm waiting for them outside, right in front of the ticketing booth after the show is over and everyone has left and all of the suddent all of the lights go off. A few riff raffs that were walking in the opposite direction see me and stop and stop walking back from where they came from, the whole time checking me out. I started hightailing it right back to the theatre, then out of nowhere Iris and Armando appear. The point of this whole long boring text is to prevent anyone from ever going into this area unescorted. This is one shady area and my dumb overdressed ass deserved to be taught a lesson that night. But fortunately they came in the nick of time and i live to party on.
We go to a the cafe Rajatable which is next door, I wouldn't advise going here without Venezuelan friends, but it is a great experience. The scene is all art students from UCV, theater people,grung musicians, and dancers, which was pretty much my crowd in college. I was too overdressed as I was prepared to go to San Ignacio later. Rajatabla was a crazy place with everyone smoking weed and dancing their asses off. And we all know that nobody quite shake their asses like the blue collar girls. They play the best music of any club in Caracas with a mix of hip hop to salsa beets, hip hop salsa, spanish funk. I would recommend this place to anyone provided you are young, look like you could somewhat fit in or else you could have alot of unwanted attention.
They said they wanted to show me how the "cool" people in Caracas partied before we to see how the "fake" people partied. Damn near every guy i talked from the blue bloods at valle arriba to the blue collar boys at rajatabla told me that in Venezuela is it is damn near impossible to get laid on the same night you meet a girl(even for them), especially at San Ignacio, as these girls are just there to tease, flaunt and be seen flaunting. Everyone said the same thing that you have to wine and dine the non pros for about a few WEEKS before you see any action. I pretty much laughed in their faces, insulted their game and told them I'll show them how its done. To make this long winded story short I pushed up on quite a few hotties that night everywhere I went (Guzzanos Y Ranas, Loft, Vintage) but my night ended up at ANgelus.
Apperantly the Sex in the City culture that has affected Colombia has not reached Venezuela yet. I will say the Loft and Vintage have hands down the hottest girls in Caracas, and they were very friendly as well. Its not surprising considering that everyone there was high on Extasy and Coke as I was offered no less than 3 times by some of these chicks.
25k for a tab of X
10k for a line of coke.
The artist guys offered shrooms for free, I wasnt in the mood this time around but who know next time.
yes, it's very dangerous around the Hilton area. The barrios are merely a hop and a skip away, and all the "malandros" need to do is simply walk down the hill.
good observations on everything else, including the difficulty of getting into a Venezolana's panties on the first date. They pride themselves on not being "those kinds of girls" LOL
(that's why Ven guys love American chicks that they can score with immediately LOL )
.... but...... it generally tends to be worth the wait, and once she gives herself to you, you get it ALL.
As Leopoldo Lopez has told you elsewhere IMHO I think you went about the P4P the wrong way.
but whatever floats your boat.
I assume the "Sex in the City" culture means a willingness to fuck someone shortly after meeting them?
where in Colombia have you found this to be true? Colombia has a reputation for being more conservative than Venezuela and this holds true for the women as well.
Ferolga777
09-28-04, 14:10
Rob Hay
Good report.
It is nice to read about someone that ventures out into the real world.
Ferolga
A view of the mountain behind.
Catire-Barranquilla/Bogota, I've never been on a second date in either city where I haven't gotten laid. I been to Charlotte in Bogota and hooked up as well. THere no question that these girls are more uptight that Colombiana, but I am that more intrigued with the place, the prudishness of the girls and see myself coming back with some frequency as I feel there is alot of unfinished business here.
Day 3
Started very late for me as i got back to the hotel after sex and arapas, which are damn good in Caracas. I have 2 dates set up today with 1 amigos.com girl and 1 latinamor girl. I was feeling that a 1 on 1 date might produce better results than just trying to hook up randomly at a club. Also i was able to slip in a hour fuck with Giselle from Caracas playboy in between, she was an alternate for Vanessa from sexycaracas.com who came by the hotel by did not pass inspection physically and the my initial impression was not good as she was wearing a serious frown on her face. I said no gracious gave her 20,000 for her taxi and we went out seperate ways. I did not want to do this but this girl i would not have sex with here in NY for free, therefore I cannot see myself paying for this one. Actually I DO NOT recommend anyone use this girl, you just have to trust my judgement on this one.
I was horny by this time and called for Samantha Thomas from caracas playboy and she was not available and i called Jade about 50 times this week and always the voicemail, Fabiana was also not picking up her phone. Caracas playboy finally sent Giselle Lauren who was available. I would have to say that I was not particually impressed, decent body, somewhat cute face, but braces but her attitude was very cheerful and I was quite horny by that time so i just did it. And actually i would say her performance was not too shabby at all and she got really wet and into things as well so it good to see. Instead of cab fare she asked for my Pink Floyd Wish you were there CD. SHe is not a bad option for anyone to choose just based on her great attitude. Interesting enough i see her later in the date with her boyfriend at the Sambil.
Third date of the date of the day with with a high school mallrat name Maria, we were to meet at the Sambil and catch a movie. Talking on the phone with her made me very disgusted as she spent a bit too much time bragging about her rich father and who complained that Chavez's economic policies are screwing her family up so much that they can't go clothes shopping in the US and Europe anymore. In a country where the majority of the people have no decent clothes its very hard to feel simpathy for this type of person. You almost feel glad that Chavez is screwing her families' precious shopping trips. I look past this and agree to meet her at the Sambil anyways because from the looks of her picture she is very attractive. As I am walking around the Sambil to the spot we were to meet I just suddenly change my mind and turn around. I am just too old for this girl i decide and she is way too immature to even hang out with. I guess she was a bit pissed off that i flaked because we were to meet the next day at Valle Arriba and she didnt show either. Don't ask, I'm just very fickle, Sunday I was alone during the day so I wanted to she her.
THat night had all the makings of a good one as I met Danielle at San Ignacio and it got pretty hot and heavy on the dance floor and we fooled around a bit but also this night ended up at Angelus, see the pics of the big ass girl below, she definately top 5 there. OF the 150 girls at Angelus only 5 are really hot, 10-15 ok and the rest are not fuckable.
ANother matter if you have a tri-band phone just buy a sim card here for $20 and you receive cell calls for free. My blackberry was not getting mail here but i'm told this is possible to adjust too.
This is one girl from Latinamor that i did not have time to meet. She speak very very little English so its going to take someone with a big of Spanish skills to meet her. I have her email and telephone number, for those who ARE going to Caracas soon, let me know and I will give you the info. Something tells me she is less of a good girl than the other girls i met.
Robhay, very interesting characterization of Colombianas vs Venezolanas.
I suspect most people would take issue with you but you have to go by your own personal experiences. Perhaps your statistical sample is too small, leading to the "aberration".
Venezolanas, especially Caraquenas, are said to be far more aggresive and bold than their Colombiana counterparts.
TheShadow2
09-29-04, 23:09
Rob,
Great report, and thanks for the pictures.
Would love to get ahold of that thick one from Angelus :-)
if you like them that "thick" then you can get one like that for one third (or less) of the Angelus price. (though I write that not knowing what the face looked like)
I know girls that started out working the Calle de los Hoteles that later made their way to Angelus,as they were told/realized they could quadruple plus their earnings, if they merely started to look more "glamorous".
A Calle girl I once met in Morrison's somehow tried to convince me (after I pointed out the ridiculousness of this reasoning) that because at Morrison's she gets her hair done every couple of days and wears a very nice dress, nicer clothes, more makup, etc
that her company has suddendly become worth triple plus of what it used to be worth.
She really believed it.
I, unfortunately, did not.
Forgive my spelling and grammer, I just read my posts and I should have spell checked it first.
Shadow- You would like her, the name is Kathuska. The first thing i look at in judging a girl is her face and this one has the face of an angel. Watch out for her older sister though, she also works at Angelus and has the face of a *****, and will bother you to death. Other than her the top girl has orange-blond hair, tall, and 2 tatoos on her ass, I forget her name but she is an amazing fuck.
Catire- I would to an agree with the fact that non pro Venezuelan girls are more aggressive in the fact they will initial contact in the clubs whereas in Colombia I felt like i had to talk to a girl first but, from my limited experience I feel that Venezuelan girls are not even looking to hookup that night, I don't feel its true with Colombians.
I won't bore you people with the details of Day 4 as they sound very much like day 2 and 3.
In conclusion, Caracas IS NOT a place to go mongering. I WOULD NOT recommend someone go to Caracas for the sole purpose of mongering. Based on what i look for in a mongering destination Caracas is not an ideal location.
First the working girls are not even comparable to the best looking girls in the city. In Cuba, ALL the best looking girls are available. Also in Rio, at the least there are working girls comparable to the best looking non pros you would find in the discos.
In Caracas the working girls are not even close in physical apperance to the non pros hanging out in San Ignacio, maybe Fabiana, but even she is a step below the hotties in SI. The prices here do not justify the talent. After hearing from many monger they have a bit of an attittude and proformance may not be up to expectations, I was very pleasantly surprise by the attitudes of the girls i did fuck. All of them would go as far as I wanted to go with them in terms of gfe, bbbj, ect., but I'm sure all this is subjective from monger to monger.
Secondly for essentially the same looking girls in Bogota you will pay no more than 1/2.
Caracas and Bogota are very similiar I would say in the looks of the women expect I found Bogota to be more "white" and women in Caracas to have more of the indian mix, at least that is what i saw in San Ignacio. ALong the coast of Colombia you will find more of the African influence. I can't remember seeing more than 5 black people my whole trip to Caracas, and they all worked at the hotel. Personally I prefer a bit more mixture of races. So if what your looking for is a wider selection than Colombia is a more viable option.
But as Zippy said before and I agree 100% Caracas is a GREAT place for non pro action. Provided that you have the time, the women here are absolutely the best. I just feel in love with the place, the people and especially the women. I just thought they were the nicest people, but then again coming from NYC, anyone would seem nice compared to my people. I have recommend this place to some of my older friends looking to maybe settle down as I think this place is an ideal place to find someone, provided one is willing to put in the time, which it takes in Caracas
I think their Colombian sisters are just too easy of a lay and I wouldn't trust someone I could fuck so easily. YOu can date alot of nice good looking girls in Caracas. There is alot of shit i have to take care of in the states or I'd go back next weekend! But seriously I can't wait to get back to Caracas, I'm already trying to plan the next one but I will have to stay for a longer period or else its not really worth it for my point of view.
I have been viewing this board for a few years and using alot of peoples tip. I've been pretty selfish in keeping pics and info to myself, and in return have taken alot of heat for it so this pretty comprehensive report should more than make up for the lack of info i have provided in the past.
Oh I forgot to add another thing that Caracas has over Bogota is that the weather is ideal. Bogota just gets way too cold at night.
Catire and I have had this debate before, but I agree with Rob Hay. non-pro Venezolanas (especially Caraquenas), in general, are WAY MORE uptight than most non-pro Colombianas that I've come across.
In fact, I've never heard anyone (besides Catire) mention that they think Colombianas are more conservative in regards to sex as compared to Venezolanas....
I never meant to imply that Venezuelans were uptight. I meant to say that they are just not used to the whole "Sex in the City" thing.
Actually most Venezuelans I hung out with all said something similar in regards to the conservative nature of Venezuelan girls in regards to sex. They just said it is not in their culture to hook up with random guys whenever the meet them. But if Catire is hooking up with that frequency in Caracas, more power to him.
Prior to actually going to Caracas I read quite alot about Venezuelans and how much attitude they have, so much so that i was really turned off by the whole cultures.
BUt I think Venezuelans get a bum rap for being stuck up. The whole thing with Chavez and the strike has affected this country alot more than i would have ever thought. More than a few people told me stories about how their lives have drastically changed in the last couple of years, and they all sound the same. One girls told me how her familiy went to fairly weathly with apartments all over the city to never having recovered from the strike and being saddled with debt. Maybe its just that being from New YOrk i am dealing with people everyday with huge egos and my tolerance for attitude is just way too high, but I can honestly say that I did not one person in Venezuela that wasn't downright humble!
I think anyone who goes to Caracas will find that these people think we're the cocky ones.
I really miss Caracas and i think i'm going back in November but not before i try to slip in a trip to Medellin this month. Be sure to get in touch with local monger BE THERE , he was very helpful in guiding me around the city and giving me advise. Too bad i didn't listen to him in regards to hanging out around the Hilton Hotel area.
rob hay,
point of clarification - i didn't mean to say that non-pro venezolanas are uptight in general. i meant in regards to the speed at which they "give it up" (and actually, this is limited to the city of caracas, much better success in the smaller towns). that is to say, in my experience, they are much more uptight about giving it up as compared to their hermanas colombianas (with the exception of chicas in medellin).
by the way, i have never found venezuelans (even caraquenos) stuck-up at all. in fact, i've always found them quite friendly and accomodating.
if you want to get a "better" feel about "real" venezuela, you need to get out of caracas- caracas is not indicative of the rest of the country. hardly anyone explores the rest of venezuela and i can guarantee you that there are gems to be found in the smaller towns and pueblitos.
good reports, though. they seem to reinforce what most have said about caracas- good place for non-pro experiences if you have the time, mediocre p4p destination.
I'll have to agree with you guys ... lately I've been in Venezuela a lot, sharing time between between Caracas and Maracaibo.
I find the people of Caracas to be very nice in general ... I keep coming back not for the PFP (which Zippy said is much better in Colombia), but for the normal chicas I've met.
I enjoy sampling the daytime PFP too while my friends are in school or working ... some gems can be found in some of these studios around town ... as a matter of fact, I've met some pretty cool chicas that work in these studios and have taken them out on "real dates" ... they do appreciate being treated like that (with respect) and the rewards are great.
The one thing I find about Caracas is the street crime ... after an attemted mugging on me a few weeks back, I do find myself "checking six" a lot.
It seems like these "muggers" are a bit more organized than what I'm used to in Medellin for example.
It seems these "bands of muchachos" scout for prey and pounce in a quick, concerted mugging on the unexpecting.
Caracas is a fantastic place ... just be cautious and smart ...
Sorry to get off the subject ... just wanted to throw that caution out there.
In Maracaibo I find a whole different attitude from the people.
Still very nice, just like in Caracas but more laid back for sure.
It has more of that "coastal town" feel to it ... sort of like Barranquilla, Colombia.
The chicas are definitely less sophisticated / complicated ... I've found them to be very very friendly.
The drawback of Maracaibo is ... it's hotter than hot in the day and the Spanish spoken there is "muy Carribean" ... much more difficult to understand ... for me at least, though I am getting accustomed to it a bit.
... and, of course, Maracaibo, because it's much less populated than Caracas ... does not have the massive amounts of beautiful chicas walking about like in Caracas. There are definitely hot chicas, just not the amount.
JackDaniels
10-03-04, 18:03
If P4P is not that great, what is there to do if someone wants both entertainment in the evenings as well as the usual tourist activities in the day time ? Does Isla Margarita satisfy both requirements ?
ZIppy and RIcker,
I think that I should take your both your advise and try out some other areas of Venezuela as well just to get a better idea of the place.
I was thinking of Valencia as a possible option until i read this quote from an old report describing the scene in Valencia written by Zippy which i found hilarious, "Old, hard-core, chain-smoking, whisky-drinking or just plain fat mujeres sitting around dreaming of days gone by when they were young, thin, and pretty." Yikes, i can totally picture that in my head and its quite a scary thought.
Maybe Maracaibo is a viable option. How is the street crime there?. I see Maracaibo as a place where you definately have to look for the gems but could be a very rewarding as well.
I'm glad that this board is heating up a bit with more info and posters. FOr a while it was pretty dead. But most die hard Brazil, Costa Rica, Cuba or Colombia mongers I've talked to won't even consider coming to a place like Caracas, so it still does not appeal to the hardcore monger
But what it lacks in the p4p scene it more than makes up in non pro action.
JackDaniels, there is more than enough touristy and cultural crap to keep you occupied in the day and enough nightlife to keep you busy at night in Caracas. From what i hear Margarita is costly and lacks in both p4p and non pro
Rob:
Thanks for the updates.
Can you tell me which days are good at Loft/Vintage?
Is it just the weekend?
Does any one know if Mazara in Tower KPMG is good and where it is. I think it is in La Castellena area?
Also a place called Le Club in Ing Bank where ever that is.
So Dadi Latino is out of favour, shall miss that one.
Is Alcatraz a good bet still.
In general what times do clubs there get busy and thin out.
Could I go to say loft, then later head over to Alcatraz or Studio 54 and still get in?
Any one else around from 4-11 November?
to quote Rob Hay
""But most die hard Brazil, Costa Rica, Cuba or Colombia mongers I've talked to won't even consider coming to a place like Caracas, so it still does not appeal to the hardcore monger ""
this is a good thing, because if it did, then P4P in Caracas would lose whatever charm it might have.
it's hard enough to draw the CCS working girl out of her shell as a working girl and her very "commercial" environment as it is, without hordes of "hard core mongers" running around.
In fact, one of the absolutely best things about Caracas is its current scarcity of gringos in every aspect of its everyday life. It wasn't always like this.
travelmen
club popularity in Caracas is akin to Manhattan or South Beach. What's hot today might not be that hot within a couple of months.
that's something you'll have to ascertain once on the ground.
as to when clubs "get busy"? Generally speaking - LATE! though this depends on the club/clientele. The good places probably peak around 1 am and keep going until 6- 8 in the morning.
then there's always the afterhours :)
"Old, hard-core, chain-smoking, whisky-drinking or just plain fat mujeres sitting around dreaming of days gone by when they were young, thin, and pretty."
I don't remember writing that report but I do remember the visual so I must have wrote it. haha
The P4P scene in Valencia was lame, but I found Maracay to be promising for P4P. There were a couple of decent and dirt cheap short-time places. I also dated a non-pro in Maracay for a while, so I will always have a special place for the city.
The beach pueblito of Chorini is about an hour north of Maracay, over the mountains and is a good, inexpensive place to take a chica; Very laid back though.
Ricker writes "The one thing I find about Caracas is the street crime ... after an attemted mugging on me a few weeks back...It seems like these "muggers" are a bit more organized than what I'm used to in Medellin for example. It seems these "bands of muchachos" scout for prey and pounce in a quick, concerted mugging on the unexpecting"
Would you mind elaborating on the circumstances of the attempted mugging? What time of day and what part of Caracas?
I take it there were multiple muggers?
Just to respond to Travelmen:
Le Club in the ING Bank building in La Castellana is a very nice, exclusive and private disco. If you can get an invite, go. Thursdays and Sundays are the hot nights. Sundays are informal, other days a jacket is required for men. Fridays and Saturdays are for old fogies like me.
Mazara is the in spot on Fridays. It is in the KPMG Bldg in Chacao on Francisco de Miranda Ave. Good disco for a mostly teen to early 20s crowd. My 17 yr old son goes there.
Best tip, go late, stay later!
Be safe,
Be there
Thanks Be There
I had no idea Le Club was invite only.
Sounds like Le Club is a very small in crowd any way so think I shall miss it.
Must give Loft and Vintage a try.
May try Dadi Latino also, but Rob says it is out of favour.
Didn't know Mazara was so young either.
I have this link which seems fairly good.
http://rumbacaracas.com/
reinaldo ... elaborating on the attempted mugging:
i was walking towards my hotel in chacaito (hotel villa de este) at about 7pm ... i was about a half a block from the hotel ... there was a rep001tering of people still out and about on the street where i was walking.
i noticed a guy (looked like a teeneager) crossing the street towards me ... i heard another guy behind me ... and when i sped up my pace, so did the guy behind me ... i thought, uh-oh ...
i yelled loudly, several times, "quitate" (go away), as i ran towards the entrance of the hotel ... the security guys, whom i befriended on past trips, heard my yelling and came out also ...
the bad guys ran away.
i got a nice lecture from the security guys ... they said that after 7pm, stay off the streets in chacaito, especially a gringo walking solo.
they told me of the groups of banditos just waiting for easy prey like me ... to make a quick mugging.
one or two guys grab you from behind ... usually in a tight choke hold, and the other(s) grab your stuff ... then they run.
like i said before ... i really like caracas ... more and more as a matter of fact.
i've made lots of friends now and have several normal chicas i really like ... but i learned a good lesson ... i let my guard down and i got a good "frightening" ...
... that said, i'll be back in 3 days ... and i can't hardly wait!
take care.
Thanks Ricker for the details. On another subject does anyone have any info on price and availability of generic viagra or cialis in Caracas?
Just to add to the "attempted mugging" post. This is quite common and absolutely true. A friend of mine reported a nearly exact incident a couple of weeks ago about three blocks from where you mentioned and he reported that when they grabbed him in a choke hold from behind, around 9PM, he actually pissed in his pants! His main problem was explaining to his girl friend how he had developed urinary incontinence all of a sudden since few people in their right mind hang around Chacaito after dark. The moral of this story is: at night, be right and don't walk around Chacaito. The Villa del Este has had an excellent restaurant, is it still good?
Be safe,
Be there
Be There, I thought old fogeys like you go to tascas.
or perhaps Malabar in Las Mercedes??
p.s. I still think belle epoque might be the "coolest" nightspot in CCS.
ricker, I walked the streets around Chacaito at all hours of day and night without problems but the area can get dicey, especially after the commuter crowd thins out. btw. quitate??? you might want to try alejate (go away) quitate has too many other possibilities to best fit the situation.
I'm now convinced that the charm of Caracas lies in the fact that it does NOT appeal to "hordes of hard-core mongers".
no better way to ruin a place than become overrun by the likes of those.
generic versions of Viagra are widely available in all pharmacies.
If I remember correctly one local version called Duroval or something like that, ran around 12K bolivares for 4 pills of what is the active ingredient equivalent of 70-75 mg.. which means you'd be paying slightly over a buck a pill, and even if it were only for 2 pills, you're getting a bargain.
Yes, Catire, I do go to tascas and I do go to Malabar occasionally as one of the owners is an acquaintance of mine. Sadly the prices are way out of line with the food and its beautiful ambiance is best sticking to the liquid nutrition.
The bad news is that first you go to discos, then tascas , then to the drugstore to buy viagra which is freely sold here in the brand original and various generic permutations, then the old folks cafeteria and then to yr final resting place!
Enjoy it while you can.
Be safe,
Be there
Had tried a gal in Caracas a few months ago (see my earlier report). Since then I am getting e-mails from her saying she is having problems (financial) and could I please help her out. She writes in Spanish and I know no Spanish. Would like to write to her "you gave no FREE fuck so you get no free money." Any suggestions?
Travelman is pitching me to go back to Caracas, and he is succeeding! But then again with all the hotties down in Caracas it's not exactly a hard pitch. I'm pretty tempted, just telling him about it is getting me pumped up all over again!
I just might be joining him next month if work allows it. Maybe right after the elections if I can decide on which knucklehead to vote for.
I guess she's got you pegged as a sucker.
there are many ways to say what you want to say.
Here's my submission:
Se parece que no hay nada gratis en la vida. Ni tu cuca, entonces ni mi ayuda.
(looks like there's nothing free in life. Not your pussy, therefore, not my help).
or if you want to stay on the high road:
no recibiste mi ayuda financiera cuando estuvimos juntos?
(did't you get my financial help when we were together?)
Jelly Donut
10-15-04, 16:30
Tasty1 -
I've been working on Spanish this year, but I'm still fairly new to it. When I get email from Spanish girls I go to google or altavista and use the tranlation tools there. It's probably not a perfect translation, but it is good for getting the general idea of the message.
When I send out messages, I use the same tools. Normally, I translate the message from English to Spanish, and then translate it back to English just to see if I'm making any sense. I keep a dictionary nearby. It seems to work okay for getting messages across.
Jelly Donut
Jelly D
I do the exact same thing. My chicas are writing long email answers to my questions or comments so they probably understand the translations even though it isn't perfect.
Remember to change usted to tú (you) and su to tu (your).
I wish I took Spanish instead of French in h.s.
Tasty1
Thats the major disappointment with latinas when they say they love you, give great sex and they keep in touch, you get an email with a request for money. Time to move on.
HI Catire,
you are 100% CORRECT with your posting!!!!!!!!!!
be direct and frank to those kind of girls....do NOT let them threat you as a walking ATM cash machine..!!DO speak your mind.
As far as I know they could be doing that also with 9 other guys...if just one or two suckers send money...it is BINGO for them!!
If you are looking for a serious lifemate...and a girl make such comments:
MOVE ON to the next one!
Johan.
Just checked out sexycaracas.com.
Seems the lovely Adara is on vacation.
Some adds say Í speak English'
How well, if at all, would you suppose they speak it.
Do you find this quality of girl at Angeles/Morrisons?
I thought of trying Channel.
It seems the famous Pantera is still there?
On average, what sort of hour rate should I go up to?
Some of these girls are after stupid money?
I am still trying to get Rob Hay to go back!!
Travelman,
If you are interested I can maybe get you references from satisfied customers.
BTW, a big heads up: that site you mentioned (whose name I shall not repeat here out of respect to Mr Jackson and his fine, fine, site) has an english and a spanish section. There art two differences, apart from the language, of course: 1) Prices in the English section are in US Dollars and the equivalent of two or three times the prices in Venezuelan Bolivares in the spanish section. For example, a young lady quotes USD 1000 for an all nighter, but in the spanish section the price is 1 MM bolivares, or around US$400-500 depending on which exchange rate you use; 2) the spanish section has a forum where the local talent is evaluated.
Needless to say, THIS site, Mr Jackson's WSG, is far superior in layout, quality and organization to the other site where links are not sequential and only last for one or two days.
At any rate, the BIG heads up is to try to check out the local prices before you call and therefore only spend half as much.
BTW, I want to reinforce Catire's comment on being aware and cautious about sending local girls money. Not only could you be setting yourself up as a proverbial sucker, but you could also be setting yourself up as a potential kidnap victim aka the rich gringo jackpot. Once you come here, the girl has you take her out and then a couple of her big, bad male friends show up and shake you down. Literally and figuratively. Just a word of caution to all mongers visiting us in Latin America:
Be safe.
Be there
Be safe,
Be there
PS: another post will follow detailing some more local experiences
As promised:
Today I returned to an old haunt, an apartment operation very similar to those described by our Argentine brother-mongers such as those in Suipacha street. This is an apartment in Av, Francisco de Miranda in Chacao, next to the McDonald's and very safe, at least during the daytime. Easily reachable by taxi and only four blocks from the Chacao Metro Station. The building is named Andrea, ring buzzer No 28 and, once you enter, go to the 7th floor where the door is right across from the elevator. Upon entering you will probably be greeted by an old spanish lady that looks like a cast director's fantasy for the evil witch in Cinderella. Don't worry, she is actually quite kind, though you wouldn't know it from her looks. Typically, there will be between 3-5 girls there, ranging from some nice looking young girls, of the "looking for a decent job, but have to make money in the meantime" variety as well as some hardened, "racoon eyed" ( to use Rob's phrase) veterans of the P4P profession. The place is clean: it has two or three bedrooms, the one I have used has a full bathroom, a decent double bed and mirror and a fan. Sheets are clean and changed between clients, for me a MUST.
Today I went with one of the "veterans" - Michelle, as all the other girls were taken. She is in her early 30's, small, delicate build, nice breasts and not fat, which for me is another MUST. She has light brown skin, black eyes and hair and no cosmetic surgery. Price was Bs 50,000 (about USD 25) plus a Bs 10,000 tip, which I generally pay in advance to ensure the best attitude going in.
Today service was excellent. A full GFE. Plenty of DFK, BBJ, DATY to my heart's content, and a sensual massage on Junior and his twin friends. The highlight was one of the best, if not the best, BBJ that I have ever received. Apart from super stroking accompanying the excellent tongue work, she proceeded to put on a condom and inserted her finger into my asshole while stroking and sucking me! At first I felt squeamish, I mean, who is supposed to penetrate whom in this business? However I remembered from some other veteran's posts the technique of prostrate stimulation where the girl rubs your prostrate with one finger and literally pushes your cum out while sucking your tool with the other. After about 5 minutes of this, about 45 min into the session, I blew up in her face and literally sucked the sheets up my ass! (luckily my personal hygiene is up to snuff so I left no telltale tire tracks on the sheet) It took me a couple of minutes to get enough strength to get up and go to the bathroom to wash up, and stumbled out knobby knee'd.
Overall
Ambiance: 5
Looks: 6-7
Attitude: 8-9
Price to Value ratio: 10+
Perhaps this is not the cup of tea for you young horny, dollar laden stud mongers that want the Hollywood model treatment, but for an old, horny monger on a budget like me, it was well worth the time...and money.
That's all until next time! Special greetings to my friends, Catire, Rob Hay and Travelmen. Hope to see you around here soon.
Be safe
Be there
TravelMen,
Just checked out my sources and - lucky you - both Pantera and Chanell are still in business making mongers happy, very happy it seems.
Get your butt over here and check them out yourself. Pantera charges Bs 180,000 for 1.5 hr, or USD 90.
Chanell is Bs 250,000 or about USD 125 for 1.5 hrs.
Enjoy!
Be safe
Be there
Thanks Be There
Yes, I shall "Be There" soon.
Any heads up on the sexycaracas girls would be great.
I had read about the twin price system.
That puts you off a bit from the start.
Hence my Q, what should I pay up to?
I asume if they know that you know they will drop the price.
Pantera got a great review on this board, then another guy said she was badly dressed with a smell. Oh
I have had no emails back from any of them yet.
How good would the English speakers be, do you think.
Would not mind that Adara but she is on leave.
Thanks to Catire for answering my query on generic Viagra. Anyone have any updates on the p4p scene at Embassy Hotel or any of the other places on the aforementioned street. Price, selection, overall ambiance, safety issues?
Be there it would we may meet again sooner than you think. Travelman has been very sucessful convincing me to forget Medellin this month and just go straight to Caracas. I have given him all my English speaking local contacts and he is going through his own list of nonpros as well. I think that is the best way to go. Travelman if you do decide to use sexycaracas use only the 200,000/hr girls or some of the lower price girl may disappoint in terms of looks.
Hey guys,
I've got 10 days of relative freedom left. If you guys can make it, then we can go out and play.
Be safe,
Be there
Travelman if you do decide to use sexycaracas use only the 200,000/hr girls or some of the lower price girl may disappoint in terms of looks.
Are you implying that their photos make them better looking than they are?
you must be using the "chavista" exchange rate.
several blocks west of the Chacao Metro? the one with Avenida Libertador lying immediately below it???
I walked thru that McDonald's several times each day, en route to different places and lookie here... all this time there was a house of ill decency without a mere stone's throw of my domicilio.
:)
Yes, Catire, there was a house, well, actually an apartment, of ill repute right above your nose and you didn't smell it. Let this never happen again!
As to the Forex rate, I am using 2000 Bs/USD for 2 reasons, 1) it is a lot easier to divide Bs 180,000 by 2000 than by 2540 (today's b'market rate) and 2) a lot of our wannabee Caracas mongers may end up exchanging at this rate (or worse) at their hotel so their all in cost will look more like 2000 than 2500.
No, I am still an unrepentant escualido, but you have to adjust to the times.
Be safe, (I always look forward to your posts.)
Be there
Mongers, I went back to the "Next to McDonald's" apartment today. Actually just to validate my previous post. Same girl, same price. Even better service. She loved my "coming" back! Though not being so horny as last week I was able to evaluate her in a more objective manner. Her looks are really not my "Christie Brinkley" type, but she outdid herself in terms of effort, she really appreciated my return. Full hour of GFE, DATY till satiation, she had about three orgasms with Mr Tongue and said I was welcome to return as often as I wanted. To thank me she gave me a full BBJCIM and was willing to do the back route, freebie, which I had to refuse, not due to any dislike of that highway, which I believe is a great scenic route off the beaten path, but because my golf partners were waiting and would not understand my missing a tee time for any reason. At any rate, for budget minded old mongers, with a flexible "look" requirement, I confirm that this place is a reasonable alternative, somewhat like a Big Mac to a good Chateaubriand.
Now to answer some other monger's posts:
The Embassy Hotel is in a seedy and somewhat dangerous area, well known by yours truly, but not recommended to out of towners. AVOID. Please, do not go there alone. It is better to spend USD 10-20 more in a better part of town than to have to call your embassy - the real one - asking for help at 3AM! I have gone there for emergency service at midnight and, frankly, have left running through red lights and looking nervously at my rear view mirror. Gringos beware.
Attention: do not confuse the Embassy Hotel with the Embassy Suites Hotel, which I recommended in another post. It is sort of like confusing Paris, Texas, with the other one that has the Seine running through it and a somewhat famous metallic tower as a symbol.
As to the pictures and sexycaracas: Bait and switch was not invented here. I was with a lady - Barbie by name - whose photo showed her with about 20-30 lbs (10-15 kgs) less than in real life. Or current real life, at any rate. Go figure. If you get older and fatter and need to make a living, are you going to send up to date pix to a web site so no one calls you? Not a chance. Her service was superb, inspite of her not being the "10" lookalike anymore. (Bo Derek, forgive me.) She made every effort to please as she knew her looks alone would not justify your hanging around.
Also, be careful. A friend of mine just reported that once his desired internet girl arrived at the motel, everything other than conventional mish had a "value added tax" pasted. BJ, was extra, DFK was extra, practically his entire session was spent renegotiating rates and services. He said that he had a better time in our office than in bed! I said, "next time you stay in our office and I go to bed!" We'll see if he takes me up on this.
With that, I leave it to you. " The best LAID plans of mice and men gang aft agley" said the great poet Robert Burns and that is true for Scottish poets as well as international mongers. In strange places, familiarity may breed other feelings than contempt. Security, for one.
Once again, I sign off, as your curmudgeonly old fogie reminding you to...
Be safe, but
Be there
this actually doesn't surprise me since I had many older Venezolano acquaintances tell me that almost every building in CCS had an "estudio" on its premises. :) I'm just a little surprised that I had one so goddamn close to the domicilio. Probably a good thing since I would have been spending way too much time there. Shit. I wish I "were there" right now!
and don't be an unrepentant escualido. In today's environment, it's better to be a repentant one. ;)
Reinaldo,
Yes the pictures make alot of girls look way better than they actually are.
:
The Embassy Hotel is in a seedy and somewhat dangerous area, well known by yours truly, but not recommended to out of towners. AVOID. Please, do not go there alone. It is better to spend USD 10-20 more in a better part of town than to have to call your embassy - the real one - asking for help at 3AM! I have gone there for emergency service at midnight and, frankly, have left running through red lights and looking nervously at my rear view mirror. Gringos beware.
Be There
Thanks for your concern. I should have prefaced my query by mentioning that I was in the area 5 years ago and am an experienced monger having frequented local only hooker bars from Tijuana to Quito. Has it gotten more 'dangerous' since then? Besides the bar at the Embassy there was only one other American Bar on Calle de los Hoteles that had any talent. Is that still the case today? How about an update on price and selection?
Thanks
though it really depends on the helplesness and cluelessness of the gringo traveler involved. (for most people I would echo be there's advice)
However.
Calle de los Hoteles has undergone a fairly decent "cleanup" in the last couple of years. It is now better lit, some of the homeless and transients that wandered around have now been thrown out and the ever present drug trade made much less obvious.
The proprietors of the hotels became aware that for their own business interest, the area had to be made to feel "safer". And. in my opinion, it is. (though what constitutes 'safe' might differ from one person to another)
Many of the establishments have hired watchmen to stand outsisde, look around and these guy will also often walk many of the girls up the street to the new areperia on the corner or beyond where they can easily grab a taxi or take the metro once it opens at 5 am. The street, or better said, the 2 block stretch or so that's being talked about is also now better lit.
I can probably unequivocably say it's now "safer" than it was 5 years ago, though precaution must always be exercised.
there are 6 American bars on that street with varying degrees of "talent". though most guys probably won't be wowed.. ESPECIALLY when compared to what you see on the streets walking around during the day... personally I kind of like combing thru the coals to find a gem and it's happened more than once there but you'd better know some Spanish to play that game.
Your points are correct: the area is "relatively" safer than 5 yrs ago and for a veteran monger who speaks spanish, is savvy in latin country ways and means, it should be navegable. My point is simply that for the average tourist-monger, the area is not one that should be at the top of his list, especially if he is short in language skills and is not up to snuff on the local hazards.
My proposition: come on down and let's check this out together! We can write our next report under the byline: Be There, Catire!
A big abrazo! Like I always say,
Be safe,
Be there
with "hot" details!!!
Vini.
Vidi.
Vici.
To paraphrase Julius Ceasar, "Vidi, Vici, Vini " - I saw, I conquered, I came... for those who do not speak the noble latin. This obviously does not apply to the "fair Catire" for he who titles his contribution with that erudite evocation is obviously a wise and learned man.
Last night, in order to put an end to the discussion of whether the "red light hotel zone" is safe, I proposed to investigate first hand in order to appraise myself of the situation and better inform my fellow mongers, especially those like Catire that I am sure saving up their kopeks for a return to Caracas mongerland. I had set up a goal of going to the oft discussed Embassy Hotel and ascertaining the safety of its environs.
Sad to say, I failed and did not get there, but I did get close.Everest shall be for tomorrow, or maybe tonight.
Believe me, this reporter would have accomplished said special assignment had some very specific circumstances not intervened.
I first cruised the area around 10PM on thursday night. The area seemed to me no better and no worse lit that on previous occasions. I did notice more private guards such as parking attendants, security people etc in front of various of the hotels on that street. There were relatively few people out, but this could be a product of the terrible rainstorms that Caracas has been receiving this week which has made streets impassable and people reluctant to venture outside for all but the most important of reasons. Perhaps sex is such to only a few of us....
At any rate, your reporter also cruised the Av Fco Solano. In front of the Centro Comercial El Recreo, next door to the Melia Hotel, there was a large group of people - some waiting for the bus, others just hanging out, but, clearly to this sharp eyed veteran of the local scene, at least half a dozen ladies of the night with their characteristic tight tank tops (or t-cubes as some loyal clients call them) and/or their hot pants or miniskirts. A couple of these were deemed "doable" by this cub reporter had he not been on this special assignment. One of the ones that caught my attention was a very fair, well dressed and light skinned girl, standing under the proverbial streetlamp and throwing out those well known "come hither" looks that showed she was not among those merely waiting for public transportation. Alas, her extreme slenderness and something in her look made me wonder whether she was not already riding something other than Caracas' Metrobuses.
True to my mission, I drove around the area for a few minutes, circling around and trying to get a good feel for the safety of the zone should our esteemed international visitors decide to come and savor the local delights. I was on my third trip around, having decided that this time I would stop at the Embassy Hotel and get a close, first hand look at the bar and its female population, when I passed half a block south of Hotel El Colegio - "The School Hotel" and noticed this time around about half a dozen dyed-blonde, plastic-booted, miniskirted and tank-topped ladies in front of the door of this establishment. Believing that there might be a story here, I stepped on the brakes, put on reverse, turned around and parked on the other side of the street from the hotel. As I walked up to the group and asked one of the ladies what happened, I was informed that the hotel bar's bouncer had ejected a couple of the ladies for not wanting to contribute to the Bar's general hospitality fund after procuring a couple of well paying clients. This had created a ruckus and, in solidarity, the ladies had ganged up on the bouncer trying to impose a little bit more respect for their dues paying union members. As luck would have it, one of the ladies was young Naitinia, around 22, 5'4" beautiful 34 D's hand tailored by a very experienced surgeon - who must have also done her perfectly turned up pert nose in the same session, light brown skin, and Dolly Parton blonde hair. Naitinia was gracious enough to explain what had been happening and when I asked whether this happened often, she said that no, most girls pay up and stay out of trouble. I made the comment that "why do you get in trouble" to which she proceeded to pull down her tank top and let me see those beautiful free standing, non drooping gorgeous well formed breasts. At this, your cub reporter forgot his mission, his training and asked her for the commercial terms appropriate for the occassion. Bs 60 thousand was mentioned for an hour, hotel and rubbers extra. Seeing how volunteer reporting does not pay much, your reporter countered with 50 thousand which was quickly accepted, but she said, take me to another hotel, this one is lousy and doesn't even have running water.
Naitinia led me to another hotel on a side street - conscious of my reportorial duties I asked which streets were safe to which she replied that the one which Hotel Colegio was on was one of the most dangerous! This other one, Hotel Sil, was in a safer side street. She also mentioned that a few all night clients had awakened only to find their cars vandalized or missing in some of the area hotels.
Luckily Hotel Sil, a clean but pedestrian operation, had an allnight porter watching the cars and I parked feeling that I could go on with my new mission - exploring Naitinia's curves and valleys - without worrying about my car or personal safety. For a hotel of around Bs 25 thousand, around USD 10-12, I felt that I was getting my money's worth.
Without doubt Naitinia has one of the best bodies that I have ever encountered in a pay or free for play companion. Her breasts were spectacular, her belly and thighs very tight, her ass small, round and perfect. After undressing she proceeded to give me a wonderful BBJ going around and around the top all the while stroking my balls and ass. As I was tired, I proceeded to lay down and let her do the work until after about 30 minutes of mutual stroking, sucking and cuddling I put her on all fours and penetrated what was a remarkably - given its assumed mileage - tight pussy. She started to moan and grab the sheets as she rotated her pelvis around my member and after a few minutes, Mr Junior decided to give it up and show his appreciation by pumping a good deal of hot stuff into the bright blue condom.
Afterwards, we cleaned up in the bathroom and she took special care of making sure that Mr Junior was spic and span for his ride home. We got in the car and I tipped the watchman to make sure that should there be a next time, my car would be as well taken care of.
So there you have it, dear readers. No indepth review of the Hotel Embassy, but another "In depth" exploration. My conclusions are that the area at early parts of the evening is relatively safe if you are a local and know your way around, but still, if you are from out of town, the area is probably a bit on the rough side to venture out alone.
As I always say,
Be safe, but
Be there
Pajama Sam
11-02-04, 05:25
I was looking forward to reading your report. What happened?
Take care
Rob,
I will be headed to Caracas in less than two weeks. The plan is to hook up with my model friend and see where that takes me. If that doesn't work out, It's on to plan 2. Find another model! PM me if you are going to be around or have any contact info I can use. I will be happy to forward any info obtained on my return.
Dogus
Travelman is pitching me to go back to Caracas, and he is succeeding! But then again with all the hotties down in Caracas it's not exactly a hard pitch. I'm pretty tempted, just telling him about it is getting me pumped up all over again!
I just might be joining him next month if work allows it. Maybe right after the elections if I can decide on which knucklehead to vote for.
A TV travel program mentioned this group of islands as a fantastic vacation spot. Anyone have comments or recommendations on this regarding bringing a chica for a weeks relaxation.
Thanks
a tv travel program mentioned this group of islands as a fantastic vacation spot. anyone have comments or recommendations on this regarding bringing a chica for a weeks relaxation.
thanks
most travel packages to los roques from caracas are for a weekend, or long weekend, and in dollar terms quite inexpensive. i'm sure you can get something for a week but it you'll have to ask/dig around.. btw. you might get bored if it's a week.
most venezolanas would [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in their pants at such an invitation, but i would suggest bringing a girl you genuinely like/get along with as a companion rather than some run of the mill rent a ho.
the first time i went to caracas was in late september and its been on my mind ever since so i had to go back. last time business..... this time all pleasure.
caracas is slowly becoming my favorite place in the world.
day 1
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i arrived nov 4th thursday and stayed at the tamanaco again. a couple days before i go i call playboy caracas agency to see if samatha is available, she is by far the best looking girl. she is supposedly on vacation her in ny, so i ask if fabiana( who i saw in sept) and dedee are available. i am told they were and the made plans to call them when i am in town. but the day before i go i look on their website and see that the pimped raised the prices $15usd each per hour on fabiana and dedee. he has about 20 girls in this agency and he raised the price on just the 2 girls i ask about. feeling agitated and cheated even before using their services i decided to use rival www.jardinerotico.com for my first night. there are 2 vip girls listed. i make an appointment to see antonella and but by the time i arrived i find out that shes not available but the other vip vivian is. when she arrived my jaw just dropped. she was fat!!! i mean fat just about everywhere and just totally unfuckable. i kindly give her 30,000bol for cab fare and told her i am in a rush to get going.
listen, if she is a vip girl than the rest of the agency is in deep trouble. i strongly recommend not calling this agency.
i was suppose to meet a fellow monger and a few venezuelan girls from latinamor at belle epoque but by now and i just way too horny and head to angelus.
i have a rather low opinion of this place and i remember seeing a lack of quality the last time i was there. personally i like a girl to have a young baby face and in this place you see alot of hard hard faces. the girls i ended up hooking up with was one of the cutest girls i have seen in my life. 20 years old 5,7 around 110pound and absoulte angelic baby face and big beautiful eyes. she was very skinny but unfortuately she had no tits or ass. but she certainly made up for it with her oral skill. she was the most enthusiastic pro i have ever been with in this type of a bordello enviornment. after we finished she tore off the condom and sucked me clean. we sat around and talked and drank awhile and then she we down on me again. she took my hand and guided me to finger her, hey even bordello *****s get into it too sometimes.
she got really really nasty too. slapping my dick on her tongue and the side of her face. tonguing the peehole as she is sucking, which is absoute extasy in my book. and staring at me with those big eyes the whole time i mean there was nothing off limits with her. the fact that she had such young, innocent, angel face and got so nasty was such a huge turn on i had to nut in her mouth even though she told me not to. i really wish i had taken a picture because this image is imbedded in my mind, but obviously i wasnt doing too much thinking.
we talked about smoking some weed next time i come. she said she love to get high before she had sex and promised if i came back on friday we could get high in the back room together. sadly enough though i didnt see her the rest of the trip. what a shame.
Day 2
Started out very late as i woke up around 2. I head straigt to Valle Arriba Athletic Center for a little workout and some cooling off in the spa. If you want eye candy this is the place! Even the girls working here are really hot. I would end up banging one of the girls working out that day on Sunday night, which was my last day in Caracas. ALso in September I met some guy that i hung out with and hooked me up in the social scene in Caracas. ALl in all this a great place to make social or business contacts even if you not into working out.
I went back to the hotel and called up just some girls on Sexycaracas.com. Jade is the deal with Jade. SHe never answers her phone and never return calls. Well I only got through to Sabrina, who I saw in September and besides the fact she girls great head i wasnt too eager to see because the last time time I remember she had those terrible "Lady of the Night Eyes" and my initial impression was that she had too much attitude because we broke the ice.
Well this time I was pleasantly surprised when i met her in the lobby. She looked like she got healthy dose of sleep and/or treatment on those eyes and maybe because she already knows me she was really cool right from the start. In my report September i posted body pics so this time I'll post some face pics(see above). She was a pretty decent bang but her forte is her oral skills.
Afterwards we go to the Sambil together, she to meet her friend Amber Waves of sexycaracas and me just to do some people watching.
That night i meet monger Travelmen and a Venezuelan buddy. We meet up in San Ignacio, have a few drinks in the suka bar and then head to Club Vintage. They doorgirl seems to remember me from last time. I highly recommend this place above most other club/bars in Caracas to pick up girls. The music is very good, the velvet rope is very strict in allowing only good looking girls in and they make sure gringos dont have to stand in line, and there is always a long line.
We approach every trio of girls in the place to light to moderate success. Travelmen looked pretty much like he hooked up for the night so that when me and the Venezuelan friend start approaching pairs of single girls in the place. Well we ran into the right girls at the right time, it just so happens one of the girls remembered seeing me at Valle Arriba that day. After a few drinks and dances later the pair of us and Travelmen go next door to Loft and buy a bottle of champagne. Bottle service is upstair section of the place where they open the retractable roof and you have an city view. I make out with my girl and follow with some heavy petting. I mean if you can't hook up with a girl in this situation you need theorpy. Well the Venezuelan buddy of ours was total deadweight had very weak game. He keep begging his girl for a kiss. Travelmen saw where this was going excused himself and left for Angelus. I would've ditched this guy for good but I needed him to set up another date with my girl. So my night ended up in good ole Angelus.....again.
Sabrina 1 this is from my picture phone so bad quality
Day 3 started really really late in the day and I felt like total crap. I have made about 10 or so contacts from www.latinamor.com and i figured Saturday seemed like a good day to do the meet and greet. I had my Venezuelan friend meet and eliminate 2 of the girls the prior weekend. He said too conservative and too religious respectively. So i contact a few of the girls and make arrangements to meet up VIntage at night. One girl screename "Leonor_A_M" told me she went the night before but got got turned away at the door. This should have told me something right there.
As I posted last time i suggust that people buy a Venezuelan digitel sim card for their triband phones as hotels totally rip you off with calls prices.
Later I go to the Sambil to eat,bs and end up running into some chicks and a guy whose birthday party i went to on my last trip. Caracas is way too small of a social scene to date various girls at the same time. This is a place you keep running into the same people over and over again. Here in New York City I haven't seen some people in my building in a couple of years.
The good thing in running into this Venezuelan guy is that I finally could make an appointment with sexycaracas girl Vanessa who spoke 0 ingles. 22 years old 36dd and great movement below the waist.
Sunday
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First lunch with the girl from Vintage on Friday, another one of her friends, Travelmen and Venezuelan Daniel at the Tamanco, which has the best sunday brunch ever so if you are ever in town you must go!!!!
Daniel failed to close the deal Friday on his girls so this time the one I hooked up with brought another girl for him, who he promptly bored as well. I get mixed signals but after some wining, dining and promising her that i will be back in Caracas again, she spends the night and I finally banged a non pro. In summary as i said last time this is a great place to meet non pros especially in Loft or Vintage in San Ignacio, as you will see and meet some of the hottest girls in the country. The rumour was the Venezuelans are stuck up, which I can subjectively deny. In fact i found them quite friendly. I have maintained for some time that the non pro scene here is as good as it gets just stickly due to the beauty of the women coupled with the low costs of living and first world conviences as well, provided you have the time.
The pros i meet are always a notch below the hotties in San Ignacio in terms of physical appearance. But I was a pleasantly surprised with the performance of the batch i had this time. So i am slowly warming the the pro scene in Caracas as well.
I dont post much but when i do i try to write everything while its still fresh in my head. Hope this is helpful
Member #1088
11-13-04, 19:43
Well my friends, I used a lot of the advice you gave here. I will be writing in more detail more info about my experiences here, but here are the general stats:
3 no pro (1 from amigo.com, 1 from MSN Profiles, 1 from Yahoo profiles)
5 pro (19-24, 30000BS to 70000BS)
2 contacts thru passion.com that did not work out (Girl never show up)
1 contact from MSN profile that did not work out. (Girl never show up)
1 contact at the mall (Tolon) got positive during chat, but could not get away on the weekend from her parentes (She was 22)
15 pre-positive contact thru amigo/yahoo/msn that did not work out
I stayed at the Hotel Paseo las Mercedes which is right in the Paseo las mercedes mall and 2 blocks away from the Tolon (Malll) Very VERY safe location, I walked at night (Many security guards everywhere) from the Tolon to my hotel and not problem. Great movies, restaurants and disco all around here. Not as good as St Ignacio but good enough.
About being fit, I am a little overweight and still was able to score, which I think is more in how u approach the girl than anything else.
The best contact to have in here is Reinaldo Garcia my driver. He does also speaks English (Limited). He knows everywhere here and got me a cell (Rental), took me shopping, tourist, disco and others. ;-)
He just got a website www.venezueladriver.com (Dont know if it is up yet).
He pick me up from the airport and was my friend in this strange but beautiful land.
More detail next week when I am back to the states. I leave tomorrow (Sunday)
Cheers,
PVC
The current Consular Information Sheet warns against hailing taxis on the street. Are things as bad as they picture them?
"Incidents of taxi drivers in Caracas overcharging, robbing and injuring passengers are common. Travelers should take care to use radio-dispatched taxis or those from reputable hotels."
The current Consular Information Sheet warns against hailing taxis on the street. Are things as bad as they picture them?
"Incidents of taxi drivers in Caracas overcharging, robbing and injuring passengers are common. Travelers should take care to use radio-dispatched taxis or those from reputable hotels."
Any taxis in front of "reputable hotels" charge double, plus so you're already ahead on the "overcharging" part. Since all fares are negotiables, as a gringo they'll try to overcharge you anyways.
Taxistas in the eastern part of town (which is where you'll be staying) are generally a pretty safe lot.
In the end, I suppose it all depends.. If you look like some clueless gringo businessman geek, then you'll be a target, no matter where you are and where you go.
If you know how to dress "down", have street smarts and have at least some handle on the language.. then your odds are different.
I'd say generally speaking "consular advice" is for the clueless (which generally applies to most Americans).
Yo! Rastaman, the closest and good hotels to San Ignacio Shopping Center are: 1) Altamira Suites, about 6 - 8 blocks away on the same avenue, it has suites w/ kitchennetes and a great restaurant, 2) Embassy Suites, about a quarter mile away on Av Francisco Miranda, an excellent Embassy Suites product, and 3) Hotel Centro Lido, across the street from Embassy Suites, a five star hotel with excellent restaurants in a major office and shopping center. There are two local hotels, Hotel El Cid which is a 2 star local place and Hotel Penthouse, a high rotation pay by the hour joint a couple of blocks from the San Ignacio, but, unless you really want to "go native" I would recommend the first three. There is also the Hotel Cumberland Chacao about a half mile from San Ignacio which is better than El Cid, though in the same category. Read Rob's posts which are very illustrating.
Be safe,
Be there
I walked into the Embassy Suites hotel in El Rosal, because I wanted to check whether they had a bar/restaurant with Direct TV because I wanted to watch some American football. (answer was no)
anyways... I remember on the way out of the lobby, I saw a sign for the hotel guests which gave out taxi fares and at the bottom said (in Spanish)
"please use our taxis for your safety" and something else which sounded ridiculous (I wish I could remember the EXACT line, it was hilarious)
but then I saw their fare to the Sambil shopping center.
almost 5000 bolivares.
Now, keep in mind this was at the time when the rate of the exchange was still around 700 to 1.
Also keep in mind this is probably the safest part of the city. You could walk it even during the night.
I also happened to know that Sambil was precisely about 4 blocks, maybe 5 east of this hotel along Libertador.
So they wanted 7 dollars for half a mile or less. I started laughing so hard that the doormen gave me a funny look as I was leaving.
Going most of the places in east Caracas should never cost you more than 4000 bolivares, and that's for distances of a couple of miles. etc. One should know that minimum fare tends to be around 3000.
Going most of the places in east Caracas should never cost you more than 4000 bolivares, and that's for distances of a couple of miles. etc. One should know that minimum fare tends to be around 3000.Mil gracias for the info.
There are two local hotels, Hotel El Cid which is a 2 star local place and Hotel Penthouse, a high rotation pay by the hour joint a couple of blocks from the San Ignacio, but, unless you really want to "go native" I would recommend the first three.
Be thereFor those of us interested in going native would you mind providing a street address if you have one?
Thanks
Name: Hotel El Cid Caracas
State: Distrito Federal
Category: Hotel
Telephone: 0212-2632611 / 2631715 / 2630691
Fax:
City: Caracas
Address: Av.San Felipe; entre 1 ra. Y 2da. Transversal; La Castellana
Price listed at USD 35 - 45 /night
Hotel Shelter Suites Final Avenida Libertador, con Calle José Félix Sosa, Chacao, Caracas, Miranda, 1060
In front of Sambil shopping center - excellent restaurant
Phone: 0212/265-3860
Fax: 0212/265-7861
I found this last hotel had user reviews on fodors.com that you may find interesting. Shelter suites has hot tubs in many rooms. I wonder what for? :-)
Be safe,
Be there
Name: Hotel El Cid Caracas
State: Distrito Federal
Category: Hotel
Telephone: 0212-2632611 / 2631715 / 2630691
Fax:
City: Caracas
Address: Av.San Felipe; entre 1 ra. Y 2da. Transversal; La Castellana
Price listed at USD 35 - 45 /night
Be safe,
Be thereThanks for the info. I called them and they quoted 88,000 weekends and 122,000 during the week.
Member #1088
11-27-04, 17:49
I stayed in this hotel for 8 days. Here is the web site http://www.hotelpaseolasmercedes.com/
The rooms were ok, a 3 or 4 stars room. A/C worked wonderful. TV Cable was fair, if you know spanish. No english channels and 1/4 of the channels the receiption was bad. Otherwise a good hotel.
Very safe, it is inside the mall, which give u double security (Mall and hotel security). It has 2 inside restaraunts plus a small bar. Internet not in the room (even so they tell you they have it in the room, what they mean is that you can connect your laptop to the extra jack, but you have to provide the internet service). They do have internet in the business center. It is relative fast if no one is using it. I used vonage.com softphone to chat back home.
Very friendly to visitors, but I always pay for double occupancy that way there is no trouble if you get visitors and I tell them when I checking in that my room mate is coming later. Now if you are encountered your date (not for pay) you can outside the hotel, right in the mall where there are bars and restaurantes. Also they have a movie theater and theather and a disco(but never went to it). I did go to the movie theather, it was nice.
Another thing is that to go to the restaurant in the hotel u take the same elevator that you take to go to the rooms, so it is a easy way to get ur date thru the lobby without anyone thinking anything else.
Once in the restaurant level after your dinner/lunch you can always asked to go to your room to pickup something you forgot, it is a very inocent way to go upstairs. ;)
Now when u order P2P service, the lady can announce herself in the lobby and they call u on the phone to let her in. They will register her and send her up. No more questions asked. A friend told me that because I was paying for double occupancy they wont ask me to pay extra.
The hotel is 3 blocks from the Tolon another nice shopping center, with movies and great place to eat and meet regular girls.
I will talk about that more in my next one.
PVC
PS: I payed US 86 per night which included breakfast for 2. ;)
Hi everybody
I will be in Caracas next week and would like to know some info of the hotel.
Anyone try the Hotel Altamira Suites before?
Are they chica friendly?
Thanks,
Mark
Welcome to Caracas, Mr M. SOS: Yes the Altamira Suites is very girl friendly as you are renting an apt type suite... It is also very well located. You might want to PM Prazer who was just there last month. For more CCS info, read the posts in this section, you'll get more mileage that way out of your trip.
Be safe
Be there
I will be Caracas this week to seek out new adventures. Anyone have any last minute tibits I should know about such as clubs or studios ?
Will post in detail when I get back.
thanks
Starfe
"Anyone have any last minute tibits I should know about such as clubs or studios ? "
I don't have any direct experience with them but a recent visitor was more than satisfied with their service. He said prices range from 30 to 50 thousand bolivares for an hour.
Pajama Sam
12-08-04, 18:50
I went down to CCS last week on a lightning business trip with my trusted travel colleague Domingo Gringo. We didn't have a lot of time to monger, but here are the highlights.
Caracas in General - The best thing there was Reinaldo Garcia, my driver, he was superb. He took care of my transportation needs. He is a reliable individual, a rarity in Caracas. I highly recommend him. He even has a website at venezueladriver.com or 58-414-317-6569.
Massage Studios - I had some time in the early afternoon and went to Estudio Masalud. I was charged 150,000 or $60. If you are going to exchange more than $500 you can get 3,000 B's to the dollar. Back to the studio, there I was serviced by a girl called Angie. She is a stunner. She is a perfect barbie doll. She gave me a great massage followed by some very energetic and revitalizing sex. I can't say enough about her. The amazing thing is that there are about a dozen girls of similar quality. I can also recommend the Cuerpo Mente y Alma studio.
Strip Clubs - Went to Saxon's and it is probably the best place to hang out in the city. Beautiful babes dancing every hour in several stages. The girls are more aggressive now asking for drinks, but politely wave them off saying you came to watch the show. Angelo's required a cover charge of 150,000 B's a rip off, so we didn't go in. Instead, we went to another club located in the same parking lot on the way out. The place was small, but had nice looking girls ramging from 5 to 8.
Security - Be careful in Caracas. Don't go out by yourself. Follow standard security protocols and be aware of your environment.
Nice places to hang out are the "San Ignacio" mall. A beautiful mall full of restaurants and shoppes where you can people watch. The "Sambil" mall is a cool mall to shop and people watch. Good place for non-pro if you have a couple of days.
You can find good deals off the eluniversal.com classifieds if you are willing to make some calls and can speak spanish, otherwise sexycaracas.com and 800chicas.com are good bets.
Monger On.
Pajama Sam writes "If you are going to exchange more than $500 you can get 3,000 B's to the dollar."
Did someone actually make you a firm offer?
Pajama Sam
12-10-04, 17:44
You need to ask around. You can actually get ok pricing at the airport, 2,500+ or ask around in the city. I had a firm offer from a lady outside the Masalud studio.
Check with Reinaldo from venezueladriver.com also.
Monger on!
Thanks to Pajama Sam for his comments, others have voiced good comments abt those studios. As to the exchange rate, I have questions about their reality. The exchange rate here has been hovering between 2400 -2500 Bs/USD for a week now. 3000 is out of the question. Caveat Emptor
Be safe,
Be there
Pajama Sam writes "Angelo's required a cover charge of 150,000 B's a rip off, "
Angelus has been described here as an expensive club but never any mention of a 150 thousand B cover charge. I'm sorry to come across as a Doubting Thomas but could this have been rather their consumo minimo?
was there last night . no cover charge at all. drinks were about $8.
possibly 100 girls or more, i lost count at 75 .
club fantasy also has no cover but is much smaller in size but better in quality.
by the way the marriott hotel is fantastic. ( $99 a night ) i love a great hotel and this is 5 star all the way. separate shower and tub, all marble. free computer high speed. very comfortable beds. very girl friendly and like the loisuites they are busy booking my afternoon sessions ( 3 per day ). its become a challenge for some at the front desk to get my appt's made asap. real busy beavers. i love that. the taxi system is a little fucked up here. prices all over the map.
food is very resonable and very good. 48 hours and i have still not been mugged. tonight i plan to paste a 100 dollar on my back and see if i get robbed.
http://www.cuerpomenteyalma.com/personal.htm
at this massage house i was doing doubles at about 145,000 for 90 minute.
i did back to back session. you could not help yourself.
there were 10 girls here. anything goes at this place.
god if i only spoke a little spanish the world would by my oyster.
Like STARFE said ... I've been to Angelus a zillion times ... actually I've become good friends with a few of the waiters ...
Never a cover charge ... just high price service with chicas ... good place to get phone numbers though ... I've dated several chicas from there.
Starfe ... I've never been to Club Fantasy ... what's the cost of servicio there? And you said the quality was better than Angelus ... that's good.
By the way .. as you guys prob know Saxos and Angelus are owned by the same guy ... prices are the same in each place.
Captain Jazz
12-12-04, 00:20
...If you are going to exchange more than $500 you can get 3,000 B's to the dollar.Note: An exchange rate of 3,000 Bolivares per US$1 is unheard of. The going rate over at least the last 3 months in the "mercado libre" has consistently been between 2,450 and 2,600 Bolivares per US$1. This price fluctuates daily within this range and will depend on who you can get to do a currency exchange for you. I have had success changing currency with an owner of a travel agency here in Caracas. Remember that ripoffs are definitely possible when exchanging currency, so be careful and make sure to do it with someone with verifiable credentials (such as a business owner).
Ricker,
Drinks were cheaper then Angelos. The place is 1/8 the size. I would say there were more girls I would take out. $100 was the price I was quoted. Thats the price that I am quoted round the world. I had to pass since I have been booking sexycaracas girls at 1 am and 3 am each night I am here. So I only go to the clubs from 11:00 to 12:30 to work up my energy for my night sessions.
Sorry I could not be of any more help regarding the clubs but with the massage places and escorts I have been fully booked.
For me it takes time to know how to work the clubs especially here. I'm a bit slow as you can see.
What makes this town interesting is the 5 hour flight and very fast customs. I have never seen anything so easy, but what do I know. By my second trip I will have the lay of the land down a bit better. I love the guys who go to 1 city 1 time and have it all figured out in 3 days. I was never blessed with that gift.
Ricker, thanks for you're help.
Starfe
that perhaps it was somewhat crowded.. or perhaps the staff was trying to take advantage of you in terms of telling you "you can only come in if you buy a "servicio", meaning you buy a bottle of alcohol for the table..
that would be at least 80K or more depending on what alcohol you were buying.
There is absolutely no "cover fee" at any of these places in Caracas. If someone told you this, it was a lie.
Nice catch on the small "American Bar" in the same building. You can sometimes stumble across some very nice girls there at one half the Angelus price and the atmosphere it much more laid back. I personally hate Angelus with a passion. Saxo's and Magnifique are much better though both suffer from the same "clip joint" mentality.
a $99 rate at the Marriot is fantastic. A couple of years ago, the stupid gringo rate was $140, while Venezuelan businessmen were paying $108.
Nonetheless, as much as I love the hotel and its location, I'd only stay there if someone ELSE were picking up the tab or unless I won a very very very large lottery.
starfe, yes $100 tends to be "the gringo price" the world over.. (even in places where actual prices are a fifth to a third of that amount in local currency)
bottom line in Caracas, is that considering that the dollar is worth 2500bolos more or less, you should almost never pay more than fifty. Fifty bucks is the very upper end of what most girls themselves will charge.. and the establishment tries to hit you up for the other fifty.
If I lived by you're rules I would never eat out let alone get laid. Probably sleep under a bridge. Oh and by the way I spent 45,000 on some cockroach eating shellfish the other night. If you weighed 287 lbs, were only 5'4" you would have to pay those prices also. Although some women find me a real catch if they can only lift me on to the bed. You should try sometime hopping on to a massage table with a waist size 54 or even better, try lifting you're feet up!!!
What damage can I do to my wallet tonight????
Starfe ... thanks for the info ...
by the way, guys that say they have a city figured out in 3 short days are dreaming. Especially a place as diverse as Caracas ... definitely takes a few trips at least to make connections and get things figured out.
Some guys might just think they have it figured out.
Have fun ...
I'm planning a trip in S.America and i'm comparating Venezuela / Brazil.
Can someone help me about cost of drink/food in Caracas (restaruant - pub - club)??
Thanks
Checked out both places Thursday night at 2AM. Fantasy had about a dozen girls, none above a 5 and I am engaging in Buchanan induced generosity. There were a few girls hanging out with a few drunk and bored looking guys and a girl was dancing in the back. Nothing to write home about so I left and went to Angelus down the same basement. The situation there was different, but the same. It was packed with over 100 clients and probably 50+ girls. Although it was full and I walked it from end to end a few times, I did not find a single girl that I would consider attractive. Most were very ugly, fat or skinny. Perhaps it was the hour and the most attractive girls had already been taken out, but I certainly found it disappointing.
A note: no cover or entry charge at either place, although I have to mention that as a local I know how to get along with the doormen and bouncers. Better luck next time!
Be safe,
Be there
Just to let my fellow mongers know that jewels are found by those that seek them.
Last week, searching the El Universal newspaper I found an ad from a mature 40 something lady offering her services. I called and was quoted a very reasonable price and only a couple of blocks from my office. Around 5PM I pulled up to the building, a fine upper middle class building in a prosperous section of Caracas, rang the prescribed intercom button and was let in. Waiting in a nice hallway with an enclosed garden I thought "by her voice, she must be chubby and short." ( I must mention that I have become somewhat of a Dr Higgins (as in My Fair Lady) expert at trying to link people's voices with their physionomy). I prepared myself for a round of wrestling with Humpty Dumpty as I never, ever, return the goods being too sensitive for the other side's feelings to put down a sincere service provider offer. Sure enough, a mid 40 year old, 5'2" lady came down with a big smile, but not much else to appeal to my senses. She took me upstairs to a 2nd floor apartment and, lo and behold, two scrumptuous 20 year olds were waiting for me! For only Bs 100K I could have had them both, but Scrooge like, I opted for a Bs 60K or USD 30 session with one of them. Delicious! Service was excellent, true GFE, full DATY, multipositions, BBBJ - not only by the 20 year old,but the madam came in during the session (she knocked beforehand) and gave me a taste of her talents as well! The young one was beautiful, skinny, pert boobs, tight pussy, very friendly and wanting to please. I actually showed her how to improve her oral skills and showed her my own highly developed talents in that area. Highly recommended for you budget mongers. PM and I shall send details and contact. Stay tuned for repeat performances.
Be safe,
Be there
HobbyInHouston
01-03-05, 03:38
Hola Be there,
For some reason i cannot pm you, can you pm me. I would like the info on this apartment. It sounds like a good deal. I will be in caracas most of january. Then i go to BA at the end of the month for 2 weeks. Maybe we can hook up.
Hobbyinhouston
I was in Caracas most of the month of Feb. ... I spent a lot of time exploring during the day ... sure are loads of beautiful women in this city!
Everywhere you go ... beautiful and sexy!
Anyway, I snapped a few fotos of Sambil Mall and el Recreo (another mall) and a sampling of chicas out and about ... I'll have to post them when I get back to the US.
Angelus ... even though some on this board don't like it ... is still great.
Sure, it's not great for paying high fees for chicas' services but it's absolutely fantastic for browsing and making contacts for dates / rendevous, etc, etc. ... I really dig the place. I've made many friends there ... with both chicas and the working staff (guys).
Facts about Angelus ... cost nothing to get in.
To buy a drink for a chica runs 15000 Bol (about $6) ... the chicas gets 5000 of that ... that's how most earn the majority of their pay.
Full service ... in or out of the club runs about $100-150 US total ... the club fee is the same whether you stay in or take the chica out ... about $50.
The rest is up to you with your negotiating / charm, etc.
PS ... I was told by one of my buddies that works there that some gringos (not so smart ones) have paid up to $500 for all night with a top notch chica ... incredible.
I always sit and get to know a chica ... buy her a couple drinks, me a couple (guys drinks run about 5000 each) ... maybe get a private dance upstairs (15000 bol) to check her out. Then meet outside the place.
It's fun ... and yes, I's say about 50 % of the chicas are not my type at all ... 25 % run in the 7-8 range ... and depends on the night, but about 10-25 % of the chicas are stunning (9-10 range).
Best time to show up ... about 1030 pm or so ... after about 2 to 3 am some have gone home already ... some have left with dudes ...
The daytime massage places are great too ... check out the sexy caracas web site for pictures and locations.
Great places for service and to meet chicas too. I've met several of these chicas too for outside fun.
Remeber these daytime places close at about 7-8 pm so you can easily meet up later for the evening ... and they're closed on Sundays.
Overall ... be carefull in Caracas ... lots of petty street crime ... just check six and dress down ... but great fun -- great people !!
Now ... off to Maracaibo!
Suerte!
To buy a drink for a chica runs 15000 Bol (about $6) ... the chicas gets 5000 of that ... that's how most earn the majority of their pay.Thanks for the info about drink prices.
The spanish language forum has been hacked. They are a good source of info about the Caracas escort scene but they don't back up their site so they lost many informative posts.
Here's a few random fotos of Caracas.
The first is a shot of el Recreo shopping mall and a few chicas about.
Explorer8939
03-12-05, 15:01
The Embassy Hotel is in a seedy and somewhat dangerous area, well known by yours truly, but not recommended to out of towners. AVOID. Please, do not go there alone. It is better to spend USD 10-20 more in a better part of town than to have to call your embassy - the real one - asking for help at 3AM! I have gone there for emergency service at midnight and, frankly, have left running through red lights and looking nervously at my rear view mirror. Gringos beware.
When I stayed at the lovely Embassy Hotel on Las Acacias, I took a stroll in the late afternoon through the neighborhood, and saw a few people hanging out on the street curbs or in doorways, sharpening knives, and either glowering at me or checking me out as a potential future crime victim. The men were even scarier looking.
Hello Board,
My "creds" are in central and caribbean Latin America (been to Colombia also though) trying to put together first trip to your pais paraiso!
I have a great price thru a contact for the Caracas Hilton - can't find any mention of it after rtfb. Looks nice - is it guest friendly? I must tell you I've had luck "leaning" on the staff in other countries at hotels that claim they didn't accept guests. Says it caters to businessmen - but on a 10 scale how much "noise" am I going to get bringing in chicas (dressed neatly)?
Also after rtfb it seems to me that this city should keep me occupied for 7 days?, 9 days? What length trip is not too long? Should I "side trip" to Isla Margarita or is CCS a solid one stop shopping destination? Any walking places worth checking out near the Hilton?
Thanks in advance - p.s. Ricker I enjoy your stuff, and your info. I think I might have thrown you something on [Curacao?] in the past any info you can add on CCS is much appreciated.
Cheers mates,
FORD
It's a bad part of town. If you are looking for a brand name check better at the Marriott.
If you are looking for price/location Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes is a good choice.
Then look at the girls in sexycaracas.com.
It's a bad part of town. If you are looking for a brand name check better at the Marriott.
If you are looking for price/location Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes is a good choice.
Then look at the girls in sexycaracas.com.
Gringo Mojado thanks for the quick reply! I knew there had to be a reason my friend could get me a price of $82 a night at the Hilton.
Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes looks nice, definitely consider. Thank you :)
FORD
To Gringo Mojado (or anyone else who has an opinion)
I checked out sexycaracas.com and (of course) the girls or at least their bodies are stunning! Alittle too many are silicone assisted for my taste but I'm sure they're all pretty.
To each his own I guess, but sexycaracas.com is probably alittle too straight forward and cut n dry for my taste. No going out and "hunting" for a chica and of course probably no room at all for negotiating.
(Girls from agencies like that always seem to be subtly glancing down at their wristwatch the whole time they're with you- no matter how excited they appear.) ;)
FORD
BacknBlack
04-05-05, 17:41
How are the non-pro chicas in Caracas? Are they friendly to gringos? I went through Caracas in Feb on my way to Margarita Island and I meet some real friendly and hot girls in the airport. I also met one in MI who was cool. Are a lot of the chicas in Caracas who go out to the bars and clubs the same way?
I am like Ford and would rather not use a agency.
I was wondering ... do you still need info on Caracas?
When are you planning to be there?
I just got back from Colombia ... couple weeks.
Let me know ... here or PM. I know you've passed me info in the past.
Taker easy.
I was wondering ... do you still need info on Caracas?
When are you planning to be there?
I just got back from Colombia ... couple weeks.
Let me know ... here or PM. I know you've passed me info in the past.
Taker easy.
HI Ricker,
You know its funny, myself and another serious "player" are starting to put together a trip to Medellin in the fall - I think you said that's where you are just returning from. Yes I could use some info, I'll pm you when I free up some free time on both CCS and MDE.
thanks mate, cheers!
OK senor FORD ... I really like Caracas ... Medellin is my paradise!
Just let me know.
Cheers!
Bizz Traveler
04-22-05, 00:50
Gents,
First of all, I would like to congratulate Catire and Be There for their very informative posts. I am staying in the Eurobuilding right now, and I have never seen a post about the following:
There is an (upscale) massage parlor right next to the Eurobuilding. It is expensive to Venezuela standards, but think about the following: you just landed in Caracas, spent times thru immigration, arrive in the hotel, you are ready for a good massage, but you don't want to drive. You want to keep the cheaper ones for later on .... then this is your gem.
It is in the big business tower exactly left of the Eurobuilding. If you are in the main entrance of the Eurobuilding, you walk thru the hall towards the executive tower of the Eurobuilding. Go outside, and walk to the left. You walk exactly ten seconds, and you are at this upscale business tower with lots of reputed companies. Go inside, no security, and take the elevator to the seventh floor. The massage parlor is in 7G (every "office" has a number). Go inside, and you will be guided to a salon. As usual, there is a menu of services, ranging from 100.000 bolivares for a topless one hour massage with happy hand ending to 200.000 bolivares for full service, including one hour massage. Note that the massage is a REAL massage, not just some caressing. Personally, I like that combination, especially if I am tired, and it is right next to the hotel. After making your choice, about 20 girls will present themselves to you. Guys, absolutely stunning girls (thus the price). Took the full service myself, and will go back.
Again, I know it is expensive, but in dollar terms, it is still just about 80 USD, not too bad, considering the convenience of being ten seconds from the Eurobuilding.
Thought I should share this with you guys. Again, congrats for the great Caracas section. It is incredibly usefull.
Bizz Traveler,
Thanks for your info.
I stayed at the Eurobuilding last year when I visited Caracas. I did not know that there is a massage right next to the hotel. I will be visiting CCS in May, last few days I still looked for another hotel, for now of course the Eurobuilding.
The only thing I really don't like is you need the key to use the elevator. Last time, I had to go down to the lobby to pick up the girls I called from sexycaracas.com
Thanks
Mark
hey ricker,
i have one foot in venezula and one foot on a cáscara del guineo (banana peel) (lol) ;) any info mate you can share?
i hit you with a pm two weeks ago and haven't heard from you - any "off the beaten path" advice you can push along? sc's, casa de citas i can hit w/o getting robbed (figuratively speaking).
i will be staying at the tamanaco.
cheers all.......
Major Dude
05-02-05, 16:50
I will be in Caracas for about 10 days in May. The first 5 days I must stay at the Hilton and after that who knows.
Any current information on Caracas and the area near the Hilton would be appreciated.
Thanks
Major Dude
IF possible read my reports from last Sept and Nov.......and DO NOT STAY AT THE HILTON
that area is among the most dangerous areas in all of Caracas i stumbled upon this area by accident and I nearly had a heart attack. There is a pretty cool bar/cafe called Rajatabla across the street but dont go w/o a local.....so if your looking to go native check it out, alot of Regaetton music....but dont go alone or else you prob. will get jacked!!!
You would be better served staying at the Tamanaco or Eurobuilding.
When in Caracas stay at the Paseo las Mercedes Hotel at the corner of paseo las mercedes and Avenida Mercedes.
I was in the Tamanaco for the last two nights, Wednesday and Thursday and I would pass in the future.
Great place if you like stuffy atmosphere, loads of $2000 Burberry suit wearing oil executives and $13 breakfasts.
Paseo Las Mercedes is a better choice - its clean, comfortable atmosphere and is located in the lobby of an airconditioned mall with lots of little shops and stores to occupy your down-time. (This is where I´m sitting right now)
I was able to negotiate a price of $68 per night incl. breakfast.
I saw the Hilton its a disaster. Terrible barrio sprung up right around this venerable Hotel. Pass on this hotel regarless of price. Las Mercedes area is neat and safe.
cheers
BacknBlack
05-08-05, 02:39
Ford,
How close are you to the clubs and action at the Mercedes? Can you walk to the places where we would want to hang out at night?
I love Caracas! Great town, great great food, absolutely stunningly gorgeous women everywhere you turn, and (now) good solid accomodations!
Like so many countries and cities to which I`ve traveled Caracas is a study in contrasts. Great disparities in wealth from intense abject poverty to great (OIL) wealth can be seen everywhere. Driving from the CCS airport thru town I witnessed things that in my life experiences - know no equal.
As I left the airport my driver told me that we would be traveling thru (as he called it) the "barrios of Chavez". He said it is poverety like you probably "never seen". "Our president did this to us". I told him that he must have the wrong person for I have "seen it all"! I have traveled thru the barrios of Guatemala City, San Pedro Sula, Tegucigalpa Honduras, Managua Nicaragua, Santo Domingo DR, etc. Nothing will shock me...............I was wrong!
Shocking! As we drove, tens of thousands of little pink and pastel wooden sheds dotted the landscape. Up the mountains, down the mountains, thru the valleys as far as the eyes could see in every direction and out of every window. It is a mass of abject poverty of such magnitude that it must truly rival the famous rolling slums of Sao Paolo and Buenos Airies Brazil.
The relevancy of this preamble to this board is that it is wholly necessary to "get thru" this mass of humanity to get to the area that it is safe to "party". As we drove past the sheds and dilapidated apartment houses I commented that "surely It couldn`t be safe for me, a Norte Americano turista to be in this area" My driver said, "Senor forget about you its not safe for ME to be around here" With that we hit our first redlight and my driver exclaimed " The windows, the windows - lock `em, roll em up!"
con`t.......
Yes i tried to stay at the PLM a couple of times and it is always been filled. The doorman there can exchange money for you at a much higher rate.
NO you cant walk anywhere from that area, you have to take a cab to San Ignacio which is about 10 mins.
The taxi ride from the airport cost anywhere between $30 - $50 depending on your negotiating ability and your ability to make a quick exchange of dollars for bolivars at the airport and pay in the local currency.
I continued to negotiate and negotiate to the point where I actually thought I wasn`t going to be able to get to my hotel at all - finally I was able to work a deal for 70,000 bolivars which is incredible since I was able to flip $100 for 250,000 bolivars by a money changer I ran into on the sidewalk.
As we drove I think my driver was having 2nd thought at the price he quoted me because he kept saying "the usual price is $50 you know"
I arrived at the Hotel Intercontinental Tamanaco around 2:00 pm and found that Citibank was nice enough to block my Platinum card (for my own safety) because they "noticed that charges were coming in from latin america and suspected theft!" How nice of them. Luckilly I had my Amex Platinum on me and I paid the bill with this.
I absolutely didn`t like the Intercontinental at all! When I was there I honestly got the impression that I was the poorest person staying at the entire hotel - AND I HAVE MONEY! The lobby was filled with slick looking Ermenegildo Zegna suit wearing executives and their polished Cartier watch wearing ladies. Before I left these "digs" I enjoyed a $14 american breakfast, and a delicious meal at the outside pool bar with fajitas mixta, 3 beers,and a cup of cafe con leche - all for very reasonable $48!! Outrageous! Stuffy atmosphere, unpleasant staff, unless the hotel is being comped by your company pass my friends, pass ;)
con`t..............
The Hotel Intercontinental is also situated on the top of a mountain so when you want to leave the hotel you need to take one of there "house cabs" who are also nice enough to inflate the prices considerably. You can try walking it but its a hike and of course with you bags it is an impossibility.
I went down the hill nad directly across the street is the Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes. Much better choice!!! It is much cheaper than the Tamanaco $70 as opposed to $124 it is clean, comfortable VERY guest friendly and with a helpful little staff of (semi-criminal porters who can get you anything you want incl. women, bolivars, (read) anything! Ask for Peter, he speaks English at about 50% and consistently flipped me 2500 bolivars for 1 usd on the quiet while the hotel was paying 2000 even.
A rate of $68 for me incl breakfast and gave me a comfortable, decent sized room (bigger than the Intercontinental) with extraordinary air-conditioning and amazingly good hot water.
Not only is the hotel VERY VERY guest friendly, but get this one. When you call up for a girl, the girl enters the hotel and walks up to the front desk and gives the staff her identification card. The man at the front desk calls up to you room and tells you that "there is a girl here for you sir, for fun, may I permit her to come up?" (honest) "Yes, sir you may permit my girl for fun to come up to my room!" :D
Don`t get any late night munchies and raid the mini-bar and I promise you`ll have a great time at the Hotal Las Mercedes and you`ll be able to keep your expenses way down!
Strangely but conveniently the Hotel is located directly inside of a mall - so when you walk out of the front door you are inside a comfortable, stylish shopping mall, complete with restaurants, internet cafes and loads and loads of chica watching! The entire experience makes it seem like you are vactioning at a Hartford Whaler hockey game!
Did he say "Hartford Whaler hockey game??" (I just want to thank the Academy for awarding that line the Dennis Miller trophy for "obscure reference of the day")
Small downside, they have a solarium but I microscopic pool (like the size of a hot tub).
con`t................
"O.K. Ford enough blah, blah, blah and you - the purposes of this board is all about women - what about the women?!"
Caracas has the most amazing looking women I have ever seen in my entire life! (and I`ve traveled all over the western hemisphere) It is is truly no wonder Venezuelan women have won the Miss Universe pagaent more than any country!!
Everywhere you look there are scores of gorgeous trim sexy women!
Women with gorgeous made-up faces, long straight shiny black hair pulled back in pony tails, full breasts, tapered thin tanned waists with belly button piercings, curvy cherry bottoms, long lean legs and wearing little strappy leather sandals with tanned polished feet w/ tan little french manicured toes.
They are walking the malls, seated in the salons, waiting for food in the eateries and paused waiting at the bus stops. Its some sort of superior human race down here and I have no complaints!
Since I was tired of walking around "window shopping" and with my jeans becomming a little to tight in the crotch area and all I decided it was time to make a call to sexycaracas.com and see if I could find one of those "girls that want to come up for fun"
con`t down the road my typing fingers are getting tired :(
cheers,
FORD
The taxi ride from the airport cost anywhere between $30 - $50 depending on your negotiating ability and your ability to make a quick exchange of dollars for bolivars at the airport and pay in the local currency.
I continued to negotiate and negotiate to the point where I actually thought I wasn`t going to be able to get to my hotel at all - finally I was able to work a deal for 70,000 bolivars which is incredible since I was able to flip $100 for 250,000 bolivars by a money changer I ran into on the sidewalk.
As we drove I think my driver was having 2nd thought at the price he quoted me because he kept saying "the usual price is $50 you know"
For $20 you can arrange to be picked up by Reinaldo Garcia not related to me who drives a late model car and speaks some English. He has a web page at www.venezueladriver.com and has been previously recommended on this site.
Sexycaracas.com has been discussed on this board several times and with good reason - it is a good website and offers great services! Once you log on you are offered a selection of nearly 90 independent ladies, as well as a number of mp's, and outcall agencies. (There is also a selection tab marked "transexuals" but, I'm sorry I didn't see any reason to click on this choice)
I ended up enjoying the company of girls from agencies - Secret of Love and Tijuana. (2 girls from each)
The girls were friendly, affable, and very gfe. They came when they were supposed to (double meaning here);) and didn't seem to be (noticably) watching the clock. Each of the agencies seem to have a number of girls available - the pictures on the website appears to only be a guide - there are usually several other girls available that aren't featured.
The price was 160,000 bolivars ($64) for 2 hours of an unrushed, playfull evening. The girls at with me and talked for 15 to 20 minutes first and then said they needed to call their "office" so the time would start at the point of their call. Every girl hit me up for another $4 - $6 for a taxi that they was "assumed" in the service, whether it is mentioned on the website or not.
One issue to note - you must be able to speak Spanish at at least %70 to be able to use this service. They're a few girls that claim they "speak English" but I didn't use any of them so I can't make a comment for or against. The women who run the agencies speak NO English so if this is an issue for you you'll probably have to employ one of the porters at the hotel (throw him $4 - $10) to get him to translate for you.
con't
the las mercedes section of caracas is norte americano friendly and it is the area that immediately surrounds the intercontinental hotel and the hotel paseo las mercedes.
this area is "gringo - safe" and is fun to walk around. within safe walking distance of the hplm is a mcdonalds, a wendy's, a tgi fridays, several restaurants featuring fresh steaks, fresk seafood, comida tipico for venezula and even a decent chineese place. in the adjoining mall is a series of shops and stores to fill every shoppers needs.
for an internet cafe you could use the two that located in the mall steps fro the hplm entrance or you can venture two blocks down avenida las mercedes to a place called the computermall. downstairs it is essentially a business/office depot similar to that of a staples, but upstairs it is a combination internet cafe/pasteleria! they charge only about $2 an hour for internet use on a high speed connection and they'll serve you fresh brewed cafe con leche and fresh baked pastries while you "surf".
overall, i enjoyed caracas very much as much as i disliked margarita island. i found ccs to be an exciting, vibrant city with beautiful women and a unique latin sabor!! (flavor)
cheers,
ford
For $20 you can arrange to be picked up by Reinaldo Garcia not related to me who drives a late model car and speaks some English. He has a web page at www.venezueladriver.com and has been previously recommended on this site.
Reinaldo,
My price returning to CCS from my hotel was 40,000 bolivars or $16. This was arranged by the porters at my hotel. They try to "rob" you with the cab prices when you arrive internationally into CCS - there is no question about it. I don't care about the English but I like the $20 part - your tip might be worth considering.
cheers
Have never paid more than 50,000 bol from the airport to the city ... any more than that is a rip off.
Handyman #2
05-11-05, 19:34
I am trying to sneak in a little vacation time somewhere in South America and would like everyones advise on Caracas. I am trying to decide which would be the cheaper destination for a non-Spainish speaking monger vacation, Caracas, Rio or Buenos Aires (or where ever else someone recommends).
As far as airline tickets Caracas seems to be the cheapest from Denver, but if the mongering, hotel and food prices are higher then I might select the another place. I will be traveling around the 1st of July and staying for 10-14 days. So what is the weather like during that time?
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide!
One more thing, what would you budget per day to have a really good time (2-3 girls a day)?
Handyman #2
I am trying to sneak in a little vacation time somewhere in South America and would like everyones advise on Caracas. I am trying to decide which would be the cheaper destination for a non-Spainish speaking monger vacation, Caracas, Rio or Buenos Aires (or where ever else someone recommends).
As far as airline tickets Caracas seems to be the cheapest from Denver, but if the mongering, hotel and food prices are higher then I might select the another place. I will be traveling around the 1st of July and staying for 10-14 days. So what is the weather like during that time?
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide!
One more thing, what would you budget per day to have a really good time (2-3 girls a day)?
Handyman #2
Easy stuff! (Next time Handyman #2 ask more difficult questions) ;)
Where should you go? Ans: Cartagena, Colombia (Spanish speaking
or nor will do you no good in Rio)
What is the weather like? Ans: Very "effin" HOT!
What to budget? Ans: To have a real good time I always bring
$200 a day (but always bring $$ home)
cheers!
Trendy Andy
05-13-05, 15:47
Was two times in Caracas ( 2 x 1 night) on my way to colombia. The going rate is USD 25,00. But every cab driver try to screw with you! They start with USD 40,00. Believe me or not, someone try to charge me USD 80,00!
Trendy Andy
I´ve visited Caracas about a gazillion times ... mas o menos.
Never pay more than 50,000 bol from the airport to the city in a taxi ... about $20 with an exhange rate of 2500 to 1.
Suerte!
I´ve visited Caracas about a gazillion times ... mas o menos.
Never pay more than 50,000 bol from the airport to the city in a taxi ... about $20 with an exhange rate of 2500 to 1.
Suerte!
15K was the going rate for a regular taxi last year and the unofficial exchange rate is more or less the same as it was a year ago. Adjusting for inflation, I wouldn't be shocked if prices are now close to 20K bolivares, but that's still only $8 US under black market rate.
Yeah, it was 12-15K when the bolivar was 800 to 1, therefore $20, but taxi prices for Venezuelans have not been dolarized, cuz no one would pay it.
The airport "ejecutivo" service for tourists is another matter, but even those thieves were charging 25K last year. If they're charging 50K now, then the tourists must be getting more stupid by the minute.
I can't imagine someone showing up to Caracas and negotiating with a taxi for 15-20,000 bolivares ... from the airport to the city.
Most guys ... the vast majority ... of guys visiting Caracas are tourists ... I think finding a secure taxi for 40-50,000 bolivares is about right.
Can you really imagine a gringo showing up ... first time in Caracas ... and trying to find a jalopy taxi to the city for cheap.
His espanol skills are probably weak to begin with.
Yes, of course, if you're a more seasoned traveler, know Caracas, speak espanol, by all means go negotiate a bottom price if you want.
When I show up in Caracas ... I have a friend who is a taxista ... he meets me outside customs, grabs my bags and I know I have a cool dude taking me to the city.
Sure I could probably try to negotiate with him for bottom bolivar pricing ... but why?
Am I stupid? That's your opinion.
Suerte
I thought that perhaps my posts might generate alittle friendly topical discussion/debate on this board, but all it has done is begin a conversation about cab prices! :(
Well, yes I guess I overpayed on my way from the airport - but then I only payed $16 on my way back to the airport so I guess I'm a quick learner. ;)
BTW, I agree with you, Ricker when you suggest that when you take a first trip anywhere its hard to negotiate the very best price "right out of the gates" Some things take a certain degree of experience.
For example this was my first trip to Venezuela, but I've been to the Dominican Republic and a few other places, (what was your line again) about a gazillion times and you'd probably be amazed how I can "spin the sh**" down there! ;)
FORD
I haven't been able to log on for about 6 months due to the forum's troubles, but now Jackson seems to have this under control. I have a few adventures to tell you in the coming weeks so I am glad to be back!
Don't take Bs 15 K cabs as you are sure to get mugged or worse!
Be safe,
Be there
Guys,
as i am still in the proces of were to go this october....I am also intrested in venzuela.
Thailand maybe is cheap......dirt cheap indeed (compared to SA anyway)...but those little yellow petit girlies overthere just don't ring my bell....LOL Sorry can't help it. I mean I would FUCK em.....but they do NOT ring my bell.
I like my chunky ass latina...:-) Besidwes my thai is nearly zero....and seems like it it will stay that way!
So what up with safety in caracas???? Is it that bad??? What about Isla Margarita. I guess the ho's in Caracas are cheaper then in isla M....right?
Is this city of caracas worth a full 14 day stay or not???
cheers,
johan
Young & Restless
05-20-05, 12:58
Does Caracas have their version of the Radio Taxis like in BsAs which seem to be a little more safe and honest then other competing line of taxis? Also, are meters commonly used or do you have to haggle over each fair?
Ford… LOL, sorry amigo, just thought I’d bust your chops a little with the above question. I would like to know the answers to them though…
I’ve been RTFF and still have a ways to go, but if anyone feels like taking a break from talking about taxis, I have a brief list of places in Caracas that I have made notes on from this forum. Please feel free to comment on any of these places that I am listing or the places that I am not listing (I started at the very last page of this forum and am working my way up to this page, but some of those post were really old):
- Sabana Grande area: El Morrison, Embassy, El Saxo
- Angelus
- Las Mercedes area?
I’ve only read the last ten pages of the Caracas forum, so I would imagine (hope) that the above list would expand a little?? Anyway, Ford’s or anyone else’s comments would appreciated.
I would be curious to know which places are considered Caracas’s high-end establishments like Madaho’s and Black in BsAs or Centaurus and Barbarela in Rio. Also the more reasonably priced places would be nice to know too. Does anyone know if a good all-around summary of Caracas is available somewhere? I know… RTFF, I’m doing that. Just thought I would throw this out there since the activity in the CCS forum has been picking up. BTW Ford, thanks for you’re your nice report on Caracas.
Thanks,
Y & R
As far as those clubs you mentioned Y and Restless ...
I prefer Angelus ... lots of hot chicas!
The place can be pricey ... I like to go in and scout for the "sweeter" type chicas and talk with them and get their phone numbers for a "date" later.
El Morrison is too subdued for me ... too dark and quiet ... they have hot chicas too ... and it's also pricey ... just not my type of place.
A place near Angelus ... actually accross the street from Sambil Mall ... called Flash Dance ... OK place ... chicas are just OK with the occasional hottie.
Nice place to hit after hanging at Angelus and getting a phone contact from an Angelus chica for later.
Flash Dance prices ... lot less expensive ... I think about a $20 bar fine plus the chicas tip ... another $20 to $40, depending on your skills of negotiating.
Suerte!
Ford… LOL, sorry amigo, just thought I’d bust your chops a little with the above question. I would like to know the answers to them though…
Why you rjwnjnJKEKwbk!! (lol) Absolutely no problem, guys like Ricker and all are the real experts here - and I think you are correct to ask as many questions as you can. When a person ventures into a latin american city for the first time - knowledge is power!
I am happy to say however, that after one week home the one contribution I made to this board is the Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes. I have received 4 separarate pm's now from guys that say they are planning there first trip to CCS and are going to stay at the HPLM due to my review.
I'm glad, I think you will all find this the perfect "player" hotel and a very nice mix of value, convenience and style.
Very much along the lines of the Hotel Naco on Ave Tiradentes in Santo Domingo. (I know, I know another obscure reference that probably only means something to me) ;)
cheers........
So what up with safety in caracas???? Is it that bad??? What about Isla Margarita. I guess the ho's in Caracas are cheaper then in isla M....right?
Is this city of caracas worth a full 14 day stay or not???
Hi Johan,
I know what you mean - asia girls do nothing for me either! It always amazed me how guys can get on those 23 hour flights 2/3 the way around the world just to go to Thailand or Malaysia or Indonesia. It sure isn't of any interest to me.
I planned to stay in Venezuela for 14 days but cut my trip short when I found Margarita Is not to be to my liking. Imo, if you spend 14 days in CCS you'll be going stir crazy! (too repetitive) Caracas is worth considering, but is probably about a comfortable 7 day/6 night destination.
Safety in CCS of course like anywhere is an issue but you'll be perfectly o.k. strolling around the Las Mercedes section of the city.
BTW, Carcas has some great restaurants with some damn tasty (criolla-indigenous) food!! Its easy to gain weight here.
FORD
Morrison's is THE high end place in Caracas, IMHO. By the way, I haven't been able to find Flash Dance, though I am friends with one of the owners, a really nice and reputable guy who says just to mention his name at the door. He said right across from Sambil, but I haven't been able to find it!
Be safe,
Be there
Thanks Ford,
from own experience i know places just like Isla M...(and you have the same places in DR and Brasil) they get BUSloads of turists seeking cheap (all-inn) hotels etc..etc Streetvendors/beggars all over the place (warning for this in cartagena Colombia;they are the worst i ever saw in my live!!!!!)
Most hookers you will find here are full pros. So i reckon the prices will go up accordingly.(even if you do speak spanish)
Besides that i HATE it to be a single guy in such all-in hotels were mommy and daddy take their kids...! To me they look more like a prison. I tried to take in girls in Dom.Rep...and Bulgaria...but i had to pay much more money to get the girl inside. Well...this pisses me off. And i don't feel like all the time going to some run down love motel were the cockroches are running on the floor...LOL.(you know what I mean)
So that is why I only rent appartments or girlfriendly hotels;-) The pousada idea in Brasil was great. here I had no problems at all to bring in girls.
Only major backdraw i can imagine on Caracas is that there is NO beach!!!!!!!!!!!:-(
But then again...there are plenty shopping malls instead;-)
regards,
johan.
Hi Johan,
I know what you mean - asia girls do nothing for me either! It always amazed me how guys can get on those 23 hour flights 2/3 the way around the world just to go to Thailand or Malaysia or Indonesia. It sure isn't of any interest to me.
I planned to stay in Venezuela for 14 days but cut my trip short when I found Margarita Is not to be to my liking. Imo, if you spend 14 days in CCS you'll be going stir crazy! (too repetitive) Caracas is worth considering, but is probably about a comfortable 7 day/6 night destination.
Safety in CCS of course like anywhere is an issue but you'll be perfectly o.k. strolling around the Las Mercedes section of the city.
BTW, Carcas has some great restaurants with some damn tasty (criolla-indigenous) food!! Its easy to gain weight here.
FORD
Young & Restless
05-21-05, 14:31
Hey guys,
Thanks for all of your good feedback and sharing your knowledge on a place that I have heard tons of good things about for so long now, but just don’t see too many reports/discussions on the internet.
Ford, it’s all useful as far as I’m concerned, amigo. From the ‘take-it-to-the-bank’ advice from the seasoned pros, to the fresh perspective of the first-timers, it’s all good!
Thanks for the tip on Flash Dance. That's just what I'm talking about! If anyone feels like recommending any other "must try" places that weren't in my list, please let me know. I can't think of anything worse than writing a trip report and someone telling you they can't believe you didn't go to "Club Whatever"... Just one more time for the record, I am RTFF in its entirety all the way from the beginning and working my way up to now.
I might make another trip to BsAs before I try out Caracas, but expect a trip report from me once I go. Thanks again for your feedback!
Y & R
Also, are meters commonly used or do you have to haggle over each fair?No meters.
I can't imagine someone showing up to Caracas and negotiating with a taxi for 15-20,000 bolivares ... from the airport to the city.
Most guys ... the vast majority ... of guys visiting Caracas are tourists ... I think finding a secure taxi for 40-50,000 bolivares is about right.
Can you really imagine a gringo showing up ... first time in Caracas ... and trying to find a jalopy taxi to the city for cheap.
His espanol skills are probably weak to begin with.
Yes, of course, if you're a more seasoned traveler, know Caracas, speak espanol, by all means go negotiate a bottom price if you want.
When I show up in Caracas ... I have a friend who is a taxista ... he meets me outside customs, grabs my bags and I know I have a cool dude taking me to the city.
Sure I could probably try to negotiate with him for bottom bolivar pricing ... but why?
Am I stupid? That's your opinion.
Suerte
Dude, define "secure taxi". The most official "secure taxi" is the black SUV fleet run out of the airport, by your typical Latin monopoly, in with the govt on the scam, company. You see this BS all over Latin America.
but even THEY, as I mentioned, were charging 25K, (though they'd try to hit you for 30) last year. If they've kicked it up to 40K, that wouldn't be justified by rate of inflation. That's a 33% increase and inflation is 13% (though it's actually been a year and a half now) 50K is donwright and totally preposterous, (of course you pay a little more if going further east like Chuao, etc).
The prices I'm giving you are NORMAL REGULAR taxi prices negotiated by Venezuelans each and every day. Yes, of course this assumes decent Spanish skills and the ability to appear confident and look like you know what you're doing.
A regular 'gringo' showing up in Caracas will usually always take that official taxi service (the US Embassy recommends taking those), and if they're pricing themselves at 50K these days, what was merely a scam before has now become complete robbery.
now if you have a "friend", that's a different thing. btw. there are tons of guys who will come up to every gringo looking character and whisper. "taxi, taxi" even before you leave the gate. However, if you think about it, those are no safer than a taxi you hail outside (you have to be sneaky about this, since the official taxi service "prohibits" this) or walk across to the parking lots like the locals have to. In fact, it's these illegal taxis (because the guys aren't even regular marked taxis/taxistas) that might be the most dangerous because they can be "hunting for rich targets" at the airport, whereas catching a normal taxi is more of a normal affair. I actually used one of these guys once, for 12K, a very very nice guy who was very happy to make some dough. (I think in the end I gave him 15, but the negotiated price was 12). I'd have to agree you better know Spanish and have street savvy (and look it) if you deal with the "undercover" taxistas inside the terminal, otherwise you're taking a HUGE risk.
Sounds to me like you're simply being "generous" to your taxista because now you feel like he's your "friend", and you've established a certain level of trust.
But I would also say this is illusory and it's merely based on your generosity.
The vast majority of normal taxidrivers aren't robbers, thieves or kidnappers.They're normal people trying to make a normal living, and almost everyone will give you a card with their number on it, if you ever want to use them for driving around town, or back to the airport, etc etc. If they weren't making a normal profit on the local/Venezuelan rate, then they wouldn't bother wanting the clientele, right?
I had taxistas I used around town somewhat regularly as well, and they were all very cool guys. That said, their coolness, their normal helpfulness, etc etc wasn't established by my being "generous", at least not ridiculously so. Venezolanos are by nature warm people, muy amable y sympatico.
Of course, if you are targeted by a group of malandros, etc then indeed that's a situation I'd hate to be in or wish for anyone to be in.
If you're a middle aged gringo, who looks like a businessman, etc then you will surely be the juiciest "target". In that scenario take all possible precautions.
but there is no "secure" taxi in your scenario outisde of the black SUV's outside.
If you want to be "generous", and throw money around, that is your prerogative. You'll be very popular I am sure but I'll apologize for calling you "stupid". Your actions might be stupid in my book but I don't fit the typical gringo tourist profile and I have a "thing" about overseas taxi and other assorted gringo scams.
I have no fucking idea why I'm getting involved in this stupid discussion here once again. Hopefully I'll learn and not get entangled these threads again.
Apologies.
p.s. for finality's sake, just what IS the "official tourist taxi" black SUV rate from the airport to Chacao these days?? btw, even their prices are negotiable, especially if there's no line and they're just standing out there. I once negotiated them down from the official 28K down to 20K, because it was late in evening and I was carrying a fair amount of valuables, as well as several thousand US$ in cash (which is the only reason I used them)
Morrison's is THE high end place in Caracas, IMHO. By the way, I haven't been able to find Flash Dance, though I am friends with one of the owners, a really nice and reputable guy who says just to mention his name at the door. He said right across from Sambil, but I haven't been able to find it!
Be safe,
Be there
Maybe they took the little sign down. It is RIGHT across the street from Sambil, going back west, but before the intersection where you go up the street to the Chacao metro station.
the KEY is that the entrance is from the parking lot (which is clearly evident outside) and then you have to go down into the basement floor of the parking lot, and then take stairs back up once you're inside the building. There is no entrance readily accessible or visible from the street (think somewhat similar like walking downstairs into shopping center to go to Angelus)
there should be a little sign/ad in the parking lot that will clue you in that you're there.
It's an interesting place, much more Venezuelan than gringo/foreigner stuffed places like Morrison's and the strip joints. Most venezolanos come in there to drink some beer, watch the girls dance, kind of like in a US strip club. I've seen a couple of cuties in there. Been there several times and once a visiting friend of mine negotiated a girl for a couple of hours for 80K bolos, but I think he had to pay the house their "salida" which I think was probably around 40k.
hopefully now you can find it and check it out for yourself.
btw, I'll make every effort to swing by for at least a short visit sometime this year (probably in the fall). If I don't get mugged by my street taxi :) , we'll have to hang out one evening.
one word of warning about Flashdance (though this is unlikely to happen to you, but very likely to gringo tourist). The girls will of course demand ladydrinks to sit with you and once when I was entertaining some gringo friends and not paying attention like I usually do, their girl companions kept ordering these little fucking wines. When I got the bill, I went fucking ballistic because these little fucking things cost 12K each instead of the normal 6-7K, and the girls had managed to order 11 of these during the time we spent there!
p.s. ever been in Canagua?? it's right there by Angelus at non Angelus prices and without the massive silicone.
Did I ever tell you the story about the Morrison's girl who I had first seen working at Calle de los Hoteles? She recognized me and we struck up a conversation. She was interesting enough that I felt it was worth while to buy her a drink and chat a bit. Anyways, she was of course trying to interest me in procuring her "services" (and I think she also offered a threesome with a friend.. how typical :) )
Point of the story is that we discussed her changing of work addresses and the resulting change in "pricing" and she made the following point. Now that she was at Morrison's, she was getting her hair done daily and wearing much nicer dresses to work and she deemed this as good enough reasons for charging double for her compania. Not surprisingly, I did not :) but she was a cool chick and buying her a couple of drinks was well worth my time and money.
when I come I'll show you a little trick to maximize your Morrison "salida" and get flexibility when it comes to spending more time than the official alloted "one hour" with your girl. I've actually never been with a Morrison girl but several of them clued me in as to this "loophole".
btw. mandame un correo electronico, por favor.
p.s. for finality's sake, just what IS the "official tourist taxi" black SUV rate from the airport to Chacao these days?? btw, even their prices are negotiable, especially if there's no line and they're just standing out there. I once negotiated them down from the official 28K down to 20K, because it was late in evening and I was carrying a fair amount of valuables, as well as several thousand US$ in cashAnfitriones de Venezuela which has the fleet of black Explorers took down the ticket kiosk they had inside the terminal building itself so the official rate no longer exists. It's whatever they can get.
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