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Mr Enternational
07-22-13, 14:45
So, since skin color is correlated with social staure, I ask the following question. Does, and how does skin color of a visiting monger effect things with the working girls?They are working. The only color they care about is that brown paper.

Ath Trainer
07-22-13, 18:58
I know thats the bottom line. But there still may be some issues.

For example, with everything equal, would a chica go with one over the other? Would they think the white guy had more $ and choose him first? Ask for more? Would they attempt to scammthe darker skinned, thinking they are eqsier to get over on?

SavePros321
07-22-13, 19:23
I know thats the bottom line. But there still may be some issues.

For example, with everything equal, would a chica go with one over the other? Would they think the white guy had more $ and choose him first? Ask for more? Would they attempt to scammthe darker skinned, thinking they are eqsier to get over on?Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the majority of the scams we have read about in the Sosua forum has been against white guys. Possibly because of the perception that the White men have more money.

Don't know if this site is legit or not, but some of you expats can verify the accuracy of the info:

http://dominicanwatchdog.org/page-Too_many_tourists_killed_in_the_Dominican_Republic

Mr Gogo
07-22-13, 19:30
Evidently it's the same way in South America. I actually did not even know this until last month when I was down in Brazil with one of my girls whose physical features are more indigenous than anything else. We have been good friends for over 7 years and on many occasions I have asked her what she considers herself as (Black, White, Indigena). We were talking about something and for the first time she referred to herself as Latina. I said what the hell are you talking about. I kept trying to get her to qualify her statement. She said that a Latina is anyone from Central or South America. This didn't make any sense at all to me because I thought a Latina was Spanish-speaking. So in my reasoning I asked her to verify that a person from Guyana where the language is English, a person from Suriname where the language is Dutch, or a person from French Guiana where the language is French would be called a Latina as well. She got mad at me and made me change the subject. I said damn a brother is just trying to learn something here.Lmao, damn Mr E. Man I never bring up race and history with any girls I meet world wide. They seem to have been brainwashed and confused. Eventually its like what just happened to you. They can't back up their statements with facts so they get angry. Its like my dark skinned Dominicana saying Spanish when I asked her the color of her skin.

RocheBrazi
07-22-13, 20:25
I only can tell you about the part in Europe where I live. Hard to explain. I will call some names from TV and music stars. People like Jenifer Lopez, Shakira, Jesicca Alba, Mihelle Rudriguez, Daddy Yankee or Pitbull are Latin People for us. We call the skin color "Mediterranean type". But you probably do not know that name in the US.

Charles Pooter
07-24-13, 14:39
"Widespread disregard for personal safety and obeying the rules of the road has helped contribute to the World Health Organization (WHO) ranking the Dominican Republic as the world's most dangerous country for drivers. The 2013 report found there were 41. 7 motoring deaths per 100, 000 residents in 2010, nudging it ahead of Thailand."

Uzinuzin
07-28-13, 09:53
So whats the translation for como ta? Is it the slang for como te vas? Which is how are you correct? Thanks!

But Dominicans will constantly ask you "Como 'ta?". I used to just ignore this until I realised that some sort of response was actually expected, and I was appearing very uncouth in not giving one. Just different cultural expectations.I'm no expert but "Como ta" is short for "Como esta (usted)?" or Como estas (tu)?" (infomral) , the "Como tuta", only used in DR, is for "Como tu estas?" another way of saying "Como estas tu?"

"Como te va?" is like "How is it going (for you)?". Should never say "Como te vas?", (s) at the end of "va" will make it "te vas" that means "you leave". A point I missed for years!

Frannie
07-28-13, 13:56
She said that a Latina is anyone from Central or South America. This didn't make any sense at all to me because I thought a Latina was Spanish-speaking. So in my reasoning I asked her to verify that a person from Guyana where the language is English, a person from Suriname where the language is Dutch, or a person from French Guiana where the language is French would be called a Latina as well. She got mad at me and made me change the subject. I said damn a brother is just trying to learn something here.In the USA I once knew a woman from Guyana. She told me she had a double minority hiring preference in the US as she was both black and Hispanic. I queried the Hispanic part of it as she did not speak Spanish, but she explained that according to the US government definition anyone from South America qualified. I think, like with a lot of things, the US government just decides to keep it simple and ignore the relatively small number of non-black native English speakers from South or Central America (like Belize) although technically they might not be regarded as Hispanic. In Guyana about half the population are people of Asian Indian descent and speak English, so it is rather amusing that they might be classified as Hispanic in the US.

BoricuaOnline
07-31-13, 04:26
So whats the translation for como ta? Is it the slang for como te vas? Which is how are you correct? Thanks!

But Dominicans will constantly ask you "Como 'ta?". I used to just ignore this until I realised that some sort of response was actually expected, and I was appearing very uncouth in not giving one. Just different cultural expectations.[/QUOTE]Como ta is street language for como estas, or how are you? I sometimes use it on informal environments. Mr. E, I understand "pa" is really "ya" which means what you define "pa" means."Pa" depending of the situation means "papi" (daddy) or para. Voy pa Sosua (I am going to Sosua).

Jiggydus
08-18-13, 13:28
I was browsing the Internet when I ran across this news report video from ABC. I had a hunch the venue was either Brazil or DR, and I was right.

It baffles me how foreigners come in and express disgust about local practices that are not harming them. Sure, the cum stained bed sheet was gross, but she apparently did not bring the issue to the attention of the hotel staff. Just requesting a simple sheet change (I have done this on several occasions during my travels through Africa) would have removed the nightmare from her vacation. Also, it is her fault she only checked Groupon and not the hotel site to compare before booking room. Third party sites rarely offer best deals. And if she has a problem with prostitution, she could have vacationed in Aruba, Bahamas, St. Lucia, or even Jamaica or Puerto Rico. I am similarly baffled that families choose to vacation and stay at the mid priced hotels in Mombasa. A couple of years ago, this ******* of a father banged on the door separating our rooms while I was laying pipe to my Kenyan girlfriend (yes, she was loud!). I bet he won't bring his family there again! But thanks to ABC, I will be booking my next vacation to Haiti, DR, Colombia, and Brazil! Don Juan, here I cum!

http://news.yahoo.com/video/vacation-nightmare-sun-sand-prostitutes-063959205.html

Jiggydus
08-18-13, 14:03
I think most get the idea I referred to this guy as a type of mule! Why heck, there is even a movie with the same name in which Stevo and his side kicks did stupid crazy stunts! Starts with a Jack and ends with bass (just drop the be since you definitely would not want to place that before an itch!). Now ain't that a *

ConquerorVal
08-18-13, 15:05
I will be booking my next vacation to Haiti, DR, Colombia, and Brazil! Don Juan, here I cum!

http://news.yahoo.com/video/vacation-nightmare-sun-sand-prostitutes-063959205.htmlThat beach girl Carolina was quite cute. $90. 00 for full day is not outrageous. Could probably bargain it down. The hotel will likely get increased business as well. Don Juan resort you say-LOL

Doker44
08-18-13, 15:58
That beach girl Carolina was quite cute. $90. 00 for full day is not outrageous. Could probably bargain it down. The hotel will likely get increased business as well. Don Juan resort you say-LOLPerfect example of a typical American tourist, these are the exact same people I was stuck with for 3 days in an AI that the airline put us up in when our plane broke down years ago. They couldn't even handle the drive from the airport without gawking while praying that we didn't break down until we got to the compound. The only ones that weren't complaining were the mongers, the rest swore they were never returning to the Dom Rep. Now can you see Carnival funneling their people all over the Dom Rep. By the way, did you notice her driving, someone should of said, by the way if a moto hits you even if it isn't your fault you have major problems. Americans are shielded, they have weak stomachs.

Shamester
08-18-13, 17:26
Big Deal. Prostitution is legal. Carolina was presented in a nice manner. The vendors are a bigger issue. Much to do about nothing.

Jiggydus
08-19-13, 02:03
Big Deal. Prostitution is legal. Carolina was presented in a nice manner. The vendors are a bigger issue. Much to do about nothing.I agree. Legal prostitution is only a problem for self righteous puritans. Too bad I hate government work because if I were in Congress, I would push to legalize prostitution and marijuana in the US. And when I say legalize, I don't mean to heavily regulate them. Just run your business and pay your business taxes (on marijuana only. Prostitution is a service industry and I would simplify tax code by elimination all service taxes. Airfare would also be tax free).

Shamester
08-19-13, 17:35
I agree. Legal prostitution is only a problem for self righteous puritans. Too bad I hate government work because if I were in Congress, I would push to legalize prostitution and marijuana in the US. And when I say legalize, I don't mean to heavily regulate them. Just run your business and pay your business taxes (on marijuana only. Prostitution is a service industry and I would simplify tax code by elimination all service taxes. Airfare would also be tax free).In the US mj is already decriminalized and legal on the state level for medicinal purposes (remains illegal at the federal level).

It is interesting that where I currently live, women legislative advocates support legalizing prostitution since the women can be protected from the streets, monitored for health issues and prostitution sites can be taxed. Highly doubt a bill is introduced.

In the DR although prostitution is legal, I doubt the putas are paying taxes for their services. Yes, they support the local community by buying goods and services but the government is losing significant tax revenues. Unsure if establishments pay a prostitution tax.

Cagep1967
08-20-13, 19:43
I've been to Paco's by the airport several times and it's really not worth it. My friend was coming in to DR yesterday and I went to the airport to get him. Spirit was a little late and I decided to pop over to Paco's for a quickie, they had 4 girls, only one that was about a 6. They would not budge from 2k for short time. I wanted something so I caved. The girl was alright, asked for a massage, got a so so one (but this is not a massage parlor) asked for a BBBJ and got such an argument over it, she finally gave in, the BBBJ was actually quite good she took her time and a lot of variety in her style. I left drained. Parked at the airport walked in the door and my friend had just walked out, great timing.

I only go to Paco's out of convenience nothing more. If I had the time, I would have went to boca chica.

GrownMan1
08-20-13, 19:47
I've been to Paco's by the airport several times and it's really not worth it. My friend was coming in to DR yesterday and I went to the airport to get him. Spirit was a little late and I decided to pop over to Paco's for a quickie, they had 4 girls, only one that was about a 6. They would not budge from 2k for short time. I wanted something so I caved. The girl was alright, asked for a massage, got a so so one (but this is not a massage parlor) asked for a BBBJ and got such an argument over it, she finally gave in, the BBBJ was actually quite good she took her time and a lot of variety in her style. I left drained. Parked at the airport walked in the door and my friend had just walked out, great timing.

I only go to Paco's out of convenience nothing more. If I had the time, I would have went to boca chica.Wow to settle for a 6 at 2k for a short time- damn you horny ass. LOL thank Paco is off my- to do list!

Frannie
08-22-13, 14:08
take a look at this report from Leeds, England and thank your lucky stars for DR and Haitian chicas.

Picked a girl up on St Michael's Street. She was blonde, in a short black dress, good legs, boobs spilling out the top. She suggested that as it was late she wanted to go home, so we could go there and then she'd stay in. She said it was the wrong time of the month, so only oral was on offer (which was fine by me). She asked if I could buy her some tobacco out of her fee, so I stopped in a filling station. She wouldn't get out of the car, and asked me to go and buy it for her. When I got back in the car she was on her phone cursing and swearing at someone.

The phone call suddenly stopped and she sid she'd run out of credit on it. We stopped at a supermarket where she went to the cash machine, then inside to top her phone up. On the way again she was again swearing loudly down the phone at her ex, telling him off for "shagging prostitutes".

We got to her house, which (as always seems to be the way with hookers' homes) was very untidy. Went upstairs, lay on the bed with my trousers off and she began a pretty good BBBJ. Then her stomach gave a loud rumble, and another. She apologised and said that she had a bad tummy, due to a bad kebab she'd had earlier. Carried on with the BJ then off it rumbled again."Sorry" she said,"I need the toilet" and she went next door to the bathroom. She obviously didn't shut the door as I could hear her noisily and explosively emptying her bowels, with an accompanying extreme smell.

When she reappeared, I was up and pants back on. That episode had killed off any lust I may have had.

RadPoker
08-22-13, 18:53
take a look at this report from Leeds, England and thank your lucky stars for DR and Haitian chicas.

When she reappeared, I was up and pants back on. That episode had killed off any lust I may have had. [/blue]Wow, I thought I was the only one with bad bowels. Thanks for the great laugh frannie.

Radpoker

Grub1
08-23-13, 04:26
Wow to settle for a 6 at 2k for a short time- damn you horny ass. LOL thank Paco is off my- to do list!If you have the time to wait this guy can get you whatever shape form or fashion chica that you are looking for. I agree Paco's place's is not the cheapest game in town but he is cool and they are no head game's to be concerned about.

Cagep1967
08-23-13, 15:41
Wow to settle for a 6 at 2k for a short time- damn you horny ass. LOL thank Paco is off my- to do list!I'm a pretty horny guy. Money is not the issue for me. I was in the area, had BJ on my mind and did not have time to some place else. I know of the casas in Boca Chica, but did not want to go so far and possibly miss my friend, as it was when I finished at Paco's and got back my buddy was just coming to the exit door of the airport.

Anyway, I'm having a function this Saturday and besides friends I have family over, some of them staying at my house. My live in Novia is treating them pretty well and I have hired help as well.

Last night, my novia was getting her hair done by a female family member of mine (ex hairdresser) and it was late, I had work to get up to work this morning. So around midnight I go to bed, and my novia is still in the living room playing with her hair.

She showers, gets into bed and starts to go to sleep. I wait like 15 minutes and then wake her ass up. I tell her, you make time to play with your hair you need to make sure you take time for me. I get the complaints that she's tired, etc. I say OK, tomorrow she can go to her parents house for the weekend and get her rest if she's so tired.

A few minutes later she comes to her senses, BJ, Sex then I go to sleep. Can't take their BS for a minute, reminded me of my ex wife. Little does she know, I'm going out tonight and leaving her ass home as punishment.

OldKool
08-23-13, 17:22
Based on you your report it is clear you are a real prize. I am sure you ex wife is not sitting home pining the loss of you ass. Jajajaja Like the song says whose making love to your old lady while you out. Think about it. To each his own. You sound like you think you own the girl. If your girl goes out and bare backs a few of the local chicos would serve you right. Not mad at you just saying' free the slaves'


I'm a pretty horny guy. Money is not the issue for me. I was in the area, had BJ on my mind and did not have time to some place else. I know of the see.

As punishment.

Buscemi
08-23-13, 17:27
Based on you your report it is clear you are a real prize. I am sure you ex wife is not sitting home pining the loss of you ass. Jajajaja Like the song says whose making love to your old lady while you out. Think about it. To each his own. You sound like you think you own the girl. If your girl goes out and bare backs a few of the local chicos would serve you right. Not mad at you just saying' free the slaves'You have become quite the "Cyber Thug" lately I have noticed!

Ave White Boy
08-30-13, 02:23
Hey fellas,

I signed up for DC and getting bombarded with messages. My question is how to tell who's looking for what without.

Totally offending the unsuspecting chicas on there?

How forward are you guys with your early messages? Or do you search out or see certain clues in there profiles?

Thanks.

Heading to DR Sept 24 for ten days, flying into Santiago.

Stoker Star
09-02-13, 14:08
I have had some moderate success with this sight. To answer your questions it depends on my level of interest. For the most part I go 3 to 4 messages without much innuendo. Then I hit them with Si nos vemos cuánto tiempo podemos pasar juntos. ¿Toda la noche?

This will weed them out pretty quickly. A very small percentage 5% will act offended, they are not what you are looking for. 25% will act coy and basically say maybe it depends. A 50% will just say si. The remaining % probably will not answer.

With some usually the ones that have contacted me I send back yo busco sexo. Again 5 % will act offended and the remaining 95% will say yo tambien

Stoker Star
09-02-13, 15:59
Experience from day 1, scheduled 3 meetings 4pm. 6p & 8pm.

4pm showed at Pacos caught me with other girls I claimed they had just made themselves at home. She was one that had said maybe. Gave her a box of chocolates. Spent about 1 hour and she wanted to meet again and not at my hotel. I have not followed up.

6pm strange meeting girl had said she wanted to go to the beach to a resort. Good looking but when I suggested we go to my room. She said no.

8pm I was a no show. Could hold out any longer and took a girl from Conde. Mistake.

Day 2.

Went to La romana to see this girl that was going to come back to the santo domingo with me for 2 nights. In the meantime stopped in San pedro to hook up with 2 other girls. Could not get there numbers to work. The number they give you may not be good or they may not have any minutes. So I did not hook up with them.

In La Romano called this other girl from Dominican cupid. Must have weighted 80lbs soaking wet. Very cute. After about 1 minute suggested we go to a cabana and she said okay. Perfect little a cups and she was very good. Knew the cabana very well. After had me stop at a farmaica and she got one of the emergency birth control pills even though we had used protection.

Finally caught up with the girl that to go to the capital with me. She was beautiful. She said she could not go because of school but she would come tomorrow to the hotel on the bus. Refused money for the bus. Did not show the next day.

Day 3.

Appoints at 11, 3 5 7

11, & 5 did not show.

3 showed at 5 late. Very young, shy and kinda heavy with her mother. She had 4 sisters all with a different father. Her mother understood and encouraged the girl to go. Girl had no problem. Set up meeting for next day.

7 did not show.

Day 4

Appointments at 11, 3 5, 7.

11 & 3 did not show. 3 called and reschedule for next day. 5 showed and was more than advertised (she was over 1 hour late) expect this with the Dominicans.

When I ask her to go to the hotel for total la noche she said she had to call her sister to get her to keep the kid over night. Off we went. Great girl. I really like about the Dominican girls that stay over night is that in middle of the night they wake up and have no problem waking you up for sex. I will see her agin. She has been gone about 2 hours and has called me 3 times.

7 I was a no show.

Expect more than 1/2 to no show.

Expect some to change their mind after they meet.

Expect some to jump at the chance to sleep with you.

It would be dirty pool but maybe we should start a thread that listed the girls by name and our experience with them

OldKool
09-03-13, 01:55
Stoker you are one busy guy. You really put some time in. When I deal with cupid girls I keep them a few days if I like them.

Sammy Sosa
09-03-13, 17:46
Thanks for reporting. Very interesting to see how others use Cupid.

I use Cupid a lot as well, but I am most interested into the "small percentage" that would say no to sex when asked upfront as you do. End goal is to take them to bed, of course, but I like going through the heart. Even if it costs several dates and the mandatory "meet the family" dinner.

Actually for all nighters I usually find what I want on the streets of Sosua. Quite a few gems if you really take time to look, and are thorough in your screening. I've met a few that I am sure would have said no to paid sex only a few months earlier.

Plus I have this irresistable urge to be at my usual corner of the D'Latin bar at 11pm, looking at the ballet of girls & mongers while Mary (my usual waitress at Latin) piles up Presidente grande after Presidente grande.

Sammy.


Experience from day 1, scheduled 3 meetings 4pm. 6p & 8pm.

4pm showed at Pacos caught me with other girls I claimed they had just made themselves at home. She was one that had said maybe. Gave her a box of chocolates. Spent about 1 hour and she wanted to meet again and not at my hotel. I have not followed up.

6pm strange meeting girl had said she wanted to go to the beach to a resort. Good looking but when I suggested we go to my room. She said no.

8pm I was a no show. Could hold out any longer and took a girl from Conde. Mistake.

Day 2.

Went to La romana to see this girl that was going to come back to the santo domingo with me for 2 nights. In the meantime stopped in San pedro to hook up with 2 other girls. Could not get there numbers to work. The number they give you may not be good or they may not have any minutes. So I did not hook up with them.

In La Romano called this other girl from Dominican cupid. Must have weighted 80lbs soaking wet. Very cute. After about 1 minute suggested we go to a cabana and she said okay. Perfect little a cups and she was very good. Knew the cabana very well. After had me stop at a farmaica and she got one of the emergency birth control pills even though we had used protection.

Finally caught up with the girl that to go to the capital with me. She was beautiful. She said she could not go because of school but she would come tomorrow to the hotel on the bus. Refused money for the bus. Did not show the next day.

Day 3.

Appoints at 11, 3 5 7

11, & 5 did not show.

3 showed at 5 late. Very young, shy and kinda heavy with her mother. She had 4 sisters all with a different father. Her mother understood and encouraged the girl to go. Girl had no problem. Set up meeting for next day.

7 did not show.

Day 4

Appointments at 11, 3 5, 7.

11 & 3 did not show. 3 called and reschedule for next day. 5 showed and was more than advertised (she was over 1 hour late) expect this with the Dominicans.

When I ask her to go to the hotel for total la noche she said she had to call her sister to get her to keep the kid over night. Off we went. Great girl. I really like about the Dominican girls that stay over night is that in middle of the night they wake up and have no problem waking you up for sex. I will see her agin. She has been gone about 2 hours and has called me 3 times.

7 I was a no show.

Expect more than 1/2 to no show.

Expect some to change their mind after they meet.

Expect some to jump at the chance to sleep with you.

It would be dirty pool but maybe we should start a thread that listed the girls by name and our experience with them

Mr Enternational
09-03-13, 19:00
If I was looking for paid sex then I wouldn't waste my time doing it online. For me it is better to go to a place where hookers are and make a live choice. What if I go through all this trouble weeding out and making a date and driving from city to city just to find out at that the girl was not what I expected or my body was not ready for sex at that particular moment. Not to mention all the no shows that the original poster mentioned. I would rather use dating sites for what they were intended to be used for and hooker spots for what they were intended to be used for. I definitely wouldn't go to church with the intention of joining a poker game, but it looks like that is what many punters and hookers have done with the websites.

Ave White Boy
09-03-13, 19:18
Stoker star, thanks for the excellent write up, it sounds like you put a lot of effort in but it paid off in the long run. I have messaged a few so far that seem interested in meeting but have not got to specific as of yet. Amazing amount if chica's on there, have to really wonder how many are real and not, to use a trendy verb,"catfish". Bad enough wasting time talking to chicas who may not pull a no show verses some dude that is posing or pimping out chicas.

I was thinking skype would be the best way to prove they are who they say.

I am going to set up some meetings from DC in Santiago area.

OldKool
09-04-13, 00:51
Most guys want the best of both worlds. I want good GFE with my sex. Sosua can provide great sport fucking but the GFE is spotty. I am not looking for a novia and I make that clear to my cupid girls so their feelings are not hurt. Most guys do not spend as much time as you in the game E. You can afford to be more selective in your choices. Most guys here do not speak the language and really want numbers. The more you play the more particular you become. There are guys who would not step foot in sosua and also guys who go no where else. Much of this has to do with age and culture. I am a hybrid I love both activities. I have had fun with SWs that becAME LONG TERM FRIENDS. In truth when you find a winner keep her in the loop.


If I was looking for paid sex then I wouldn't waste my time doing it online. For me it is better to go to a place where hookers are and make a live choice. What if I go through all this trouble weeding out and making a date and driving from city to city just to find out at that the girl was not what I expected or my body was not ready for sex at that particular moment. Not to mention all the no shows that the original poster mentioned. I would rather use dating sites for what they were intended to be used for and hooker spots for what they were intended to be used for. I definitely wouldn't go to church with the intention of joining a poker game, but it looks like that is what many punters and hookers have done with the websites.

Coole Mr
09-21-13, 20:10
They are closing casas but they have 60 year old men having sex with 13yr old girls. Taken from DR1. 13-year old pregnant with triplets.

The leading Dominican maternity hospital, La Altagracia, is managing the case of a 13-year old girl from San Jose de Ocoa who is pregnant with triplets, reportedly by a 60-year old man. Hospital director Dr. Victor Calderon says the girl is suffering from malnutrition and is being treated with vitamins. Once she is stable, she will be sent home. He said that 29% of the cases received at the hospital are of pregnant teenagers. The hospital has a specialized center where the teenagers also receive psychological assistance.

The Medina Administration recently issued Decree 264-13 that created an inter-institutional commission to coordinate and follow up on the implementation of the National Plan to Prevent Pregnancies in Teenagers that was launched in 2011. The commission members are the Vice President, the First Lady's Office, and the ministries of Women, Health, Education, Youth and Economy.

Frannie
10-07-13, 16:45
in meeting a very pleasant, slightly shy, young Haitian woman of 25, no kids, a couple of months in the DR and doesn't really know anyone in the DR, and speaks very little Spanish, only Kreyol and French, a bit overweight (some would say 'thick') , pretty face, lovely smile, nice skin, very sweet temperament, and no prostitution experience that I know of, please p.m. with an e-mail address and she can contact you on e-mail, Facebook, Skype, or whatever.

This is not for a hard core monger who wants a one nighter. Ideally she would like a long-term boyfriend who could help her go to college. Probably a long shot putting her info up here, but you never know.

Oh, she says she would like to meet someone single who has no kids, so I guess that rules out most readers of this.

Manizales911
10-07-13, 17:26
Maybe someone can help me help a friend of mine out. I am trying to find a place for my friend to stay in Costambar, BB's is booked. I used to stay at Atlantic One across from the restaurant Solo Mio but I can't find a phone number or e-mail for them anywhere. Any help would be appreciated.

BogieMaker
10-08-13, 00:33
Maybe someone can help me help a friend of mine out. I am trying to find a place for my friend to stay in Costambar, BB's is booked. I used to stay at Atlantic One across from the restaurant Solo Mio but I can't find a phone number or e-mail for them anywhere. Any help would be appreciated.Hotel Atlantic One.

Costambar, DomRep.

Tel. : (1809) 970 72 45.

Fax: (1809) 970 72 45.

EMail: residenceatlanticone@hotmail.com

www.residenceatlanticone.com

Frannie
10-10-13, 14:47
in meeting a very pleasant, slightly shy, young Haitian woman of 25, no kids, a couple of months in the DR and doesn't really know anyone in the DR, and speaks very little Spanish, only Kreyol and French, a bit overweight (some would say 'thick') , pretty face, lovely smile, nice skin, very sweet temperament, and no prostitution experience that I know of, please pm with an e-mail address and she can contact you on e-mail, Facebook, Skype, or whatever.

This is not for a hard core monger who wants a one nighter. Ideally she would like a long-term boyfriend who could help her go to college. Probably a long shot putting her info up here, but you never know.

Oh, she says she would like to meet someone single who has no kids, so I guess that rules out most readers of this.I don't have any photos to post, except this "selfie" that she took. It is not exactly a full body shot, but shows enough to indicate non-pro status and give you some idea of what you might be dealing with.

Cagep1967
10-10-13, 20:26
I don't have any photos to post, except this "selfie" that she took. It is not exactly a full body shot, but shows enough to indicate non-pro status and give you some idea of what you might be dealing with."Mary Mary quite contrary, trim that pussy its so damn hairy, OH!"

Charles Pooter
10-10-13, 23:18
"Mary Mary quite contrary, trim that pussy its so damn hairy, OH!"I know a man who will do a good job free. It is his hobby. As Frannie says, it is an indicator she is probably not a puta. Lack of both English and Spanish would be another.

Hairy pussies don't faze me because that is easily remedied and it is rare for a haitiana to refuse the offer. But tattoos, piercings, dyed hair, etc, are a real slag alert.

Grub1
10-10-13, 23:53
I know a man who will do a good job free. It is his hobby. As Frannie says, it is an indicator she is probably not a puta. Lack of both English and Spanish would be another.

Hairy pussies don't faze me because that is easily remedied and it is rare for a haitiana to refuse the offer. But tattoos, piercings, dyed hair, etc, are a real slag alert.You are right about the tattoos, piercings, dyed hair etc being a alert but hell world wide the young people are doing it and they are not all bad. What are we suppose to do besides look for women over 40.

Charles Pooter
10-11-13, 01:52
You are right about the tattoos, piercings, dyed hair etc being a alert but hell world wide the young people are doing it and they are not all bad. What are we suppose to do besides look for women over 40.I have slowed right up now because of health and finance but I must have had upwards of 500 women since first coming to the DR. Maybe less than a dozen had tattoos visible when dressed (and they were in my early days) , a dozen more had discreet little hidden ones, maybe less than five had body piercings, and none at all had dyed hair that I was aware of, but then I don't like Latin blondes and redheads and no-one down here wants to dye their hair black (unless it is going gray and I don't like older women either). Having spent a lot of time in Northern Europe I appreciate real blondes (Scandinavian or Slav). Latin blondes have got that tallow color which looks unhealthy to me.

Plenty of natural chicas (18 to 25) around here with (generally) unspoilt natures, but you won't find them on the strip in Sosua.

SavePros321
10-13-13, 20:17
Could someone tell me what the equivalent of "quit playing" or "quit fucking around" would be in Spanish?

I am speaking in terms of as if a chica was giving you a very poor BJ and you know she is quite capable of doing a better job, and you want to tell her to "cut the bullshit" and suck you off like she does her novio (LOL).

Probably a very crude example, but just trying to put the original question I asked in context.

Cherokee
10-13-13, 20:43
Could someone tell me what the equivalent of "quit playing" or "quit fucking around" would be in Spanish?

I am speaking in terms of as if a chica was giving you a very poor BJ and you know she is quite capable of doing a better job, and you want to tell her to "cut the bullshit" and suck you off like she does her novio (LOL).

Probably a very crude example, but just trying to put the original question I asked in context.Pare jugando, stop playing.

Cagep1967
10-14-13, 13:02
Pare jugando, stop playing.Mamar tu novio asi?

Charles Pooter
10-14-13, 14:09
Pare jugando, stop playing.And for Haitians:

"Sispann ransè"

Henley100
10-15-13, 17:22
I'm going back to the DR in December, going to try Blackbeards for three days, then staying at Casa Cayena in Sosua for 9 days. Really looking forward to it. I'll give a report when I get back.

My Spanish is abysmal. Right now I'm brushing up on my basic greetings, light conversational stuff. But I need help with negotiating specifics with the chicas.

What I'm hoping to find is a list of phrases, specific to DR spanish, for negotiating what a monger wants. Examples would be asking for a blowjob without a condom, DATY, anal, deep french kissing, etc.

I already had a list like this before, but it was on my old computer and I lost it. If anyone has one, could they post it here, or link to it? I'd really appreciate it.

Henley

SavePros321
10-15-13, 22:21
I'm going back to the DR in December, going to try Blackbeards for three days, then staying at Casa Cayena in Sosua for 9 days. Really looking forward to it. I'll give a report when I get back.

My Spanish is abysmal. Right now I'm brushing up on my basic greetings, light conversational stuff. But I need help with negotiating specifics with the chicas.

What I'm hoping to find is a list of phrases, specific to DR spanish, for negotiating what a monger wants. Examples would be asking for a blowjob without a condom, DATY, anal, deep french kissing, etc.

I already had a list like this before, but it was on my old computer and I lost it. If anyone has one, could they post it here, or link to it? I'd really appreciate it.

HenleyFor where you mentioned you will be going: "Sucky sucky sin condon" and "anal" (in Spanish it sounds like "ah-nahl") will work just fine. Don't know what "eating pussy" is in Spanish. For kissing, just ask "besos?".

Henley100
10-16-13, 00:02
For where you mentioned you will be going: "Sucky sucky sin condon" and "anal" (in Spanish it sounds like "ah-nahl") will work just fine. Don't know what "eating pussy" is in Spanish. For kissing, just ask "besos?".Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can make myself understood with my very limited vocabulary I. E."besos con lengua" I think would roughly mean kissing with tongue, etc. I've just been trying to track down that list of phrases so I could be a little smoother and understandable than when I'm using my pigeon Spanish.

If someone has the list of phrases, that'd be great. I'd love to get my hands on it again. If not, that's cool. I don't want anyone spending time putting together a new list or anything.

Henley

Henley100
10-17-13, 04:52
I've been going thru tons of old posts and came up with some pretty good words and phrases that I thought may be helpful for the Spanish-challenged. Again, these are from previous posts that I've just copied. If reposting without credit given to original poster is frowned upon, I apologize. If the administrator wants to take it down because of this, I would certainly understand.

It's a cut and paste job, but I've cleaned it up a bit:

For the cab:

1. Me puede llevar (place) Can you take me.

2. Conoce este lugar Do you know this place.

3. Que tan lejos es (place) How far is this place.

4. Puede esperarme can you wait for me.

5. Que otro sitio conoces como este Do you know of any other place like this one.

For the girls.

1. Cuanto por la salida How much to get out.

2. El taxi esta incluido en el precio Is the cab incluido en el precio.

3. Me parece caro I think is to expensive.

4. Te puedo tomar fotos Can I take your picture.

5. Quieres tomar algo Do you want anything to drink.

6. Tienes una amiga que quiera venir Do you have a girlfriend that might want to come.

7. Te gustan las mujeres Do you like girls.

8. Me puedes dar tu telefono Can I have your phone. (most of them will)

9. Vete ya Leave now. (hey you never know)

10. No te voy a dar propina I will not give you a tip.

11. Si me gusta lo que haces te dare una buena propina If I like what you do I will give you a tip.

12. Quieres almorzar conmigo manana Would you like to have lunch with me tomorrow.

13. Volteate Turn around.

14. Para Stop.

15. Vamos Let's go.

1. Hi, what's your name?

1 hola, que es tu nombre?

2. You are beautiful.

2 eres linda, guapa.

3. My name is.

3 Mi nombre es.

4. I'm ____ years old.

4 Tengo ____ anos.

5. Can I buy you a beer / dinner?

5 Puedo comprarte una cerveza (in the D. R. Una fria) /cena.

6. Where is a good place to eat / drink?

6 Sabes un lugar de alta calidad para beber / comer?

7. I think I love you.

7 Pienso que te amo.

8. How much for a short time / long time?

8 Cuanto pides para 2 o 3 horas / toda la noche?

9. I want sex / BBBJ / BBBJCIM.

9 Quiero sexo / sexo oral sin preservatio / sexo oral con la leche en tu boca.

10. Ok. Let's go.

10 okay vamos.

11. That was nice. See you later?

11 Eso me gusto, hasta mas tarde.

1. Who, What, when, where, why. These translate to: Quiéand, qué, cuándo, donde, por qué.

2. Short time. All night. How Much. These are important. Poco tiempo. Toda la noche. Cuanto.

3. Money (Dinero). Fifty, one hundred, five hundred, one thousand. Translation is, cincuenta, cien, quinientos, mil.

4. Pussy = Toto. Ass = culo. Butt = Nalga. Titties = Tetas. Body = cuerpo. Face = cara. Pretty = Linda, hermosa, or bonita.

5. Suck me = chuparme. Bare back blow job = chuparme sin condom. Cum in mouth = Leche en tu boca.

Multiple Pops. Try "algunas veces" (ahl-goo-nas ve-ces) (several times)

(dos veces = two times)

Quiero hacer culito. I want to do anal.

El perrito. Doggie.

Moirick
10-18-13, 15:56
in meeting a very pleasant, slightly shy, young Haitian woman of 25, no kids, a couple of months in the DR and doesn't really know anyone in the DR, and speaks very little Spanish, only Kreyol and French, a bit overweight (some would say 'thick') , pretty face, lovely smile, nice skin, very sweet temperament, and no prostitution experience that I know of, please pm with an e-mail address and she can contact you on e-mail, Facebook, Skype, or whatever.

This is not for a hard core monger who wants a one nighter. Ideally she would like a long-term boyfriend who could help her go to college. Probably a long shot putting her info up here, but you never know.

Oh, she says she would like to meet someone single who has no kids, so I guess that rules out most readers of this.I would be interested to meet this girl, I don't have kids and I am single, can you send me a pm?

Charles Pooter
10-18-13, 22:15
Please pm with an e-mail address and she can contact you on e-mail, Facebook, Skype, or whatever.


I would be interested to meet this girl. Can you send me a pm?

Sorry, you failed the reading comprehension test.

Charles Pooter
10-18-13, 23:46
You are beautiful. Eres guapa.Fair enough in most countries but in the DR this means "you are angry"


I think I love you. Pienso que te amo.Probably the most useful phrase here for people who monger using phrasebooks.


OK. Let's go. Okay vamos.I always say "vamanos" for "let's go". Although "vamos" literally means the same thing, in practice it is used more for "let's (do something)" or "we are going to (do something)".


Who, What, when, where, why. These translate to: Quiéand, qué, cuándo, donde, por qué.Jackson's crackpot auto correct has stabbed you in the back here.

For some of your entries the conditional or subjunctive would be more correct, but don't worry because Dominicans haven't got a clue how to use them either (nor have I in Spanish).

Frannie
10-19-13, 10:37
I've been going thru tons of old posts and came up with some pretty good words and phrases that I thought may be helpful for the Spanish-challenged. Again, these are from previous posts that I've just copied. If reposting without credit given to original poster is frowned upon, I apologize. If the administrator wants to take it down because of this, I would certainly understand.

It's a cut and paste job, but I've cleaned it up a bit:

For the cab:

1. Me puede llevar (place) Can you take me.

2. Conoce este lugar Do you know this place.

3. Que tan lejos es (place) How far is this place.

4. Puede esperarme can you wait for me.

5. Que otro sitio conoces como este Do you know of any other place like this one.

For the girls.

1. Cuanto por la salida How much to get out.

2. El taxi esta incluido en el precio Is the cab incluido en el precio.

3. Me parece caro I think is to expensive.

4. Te puedo tomar fotos Can I take your picture.

5. Quieres tomar algo Do you want anything to drink.

6. Tienes una amiga que quiera venir Do you have a girlfriend that might want to come.

7. Te gustan las mujeres Do you like girls.

8. Me puedes dar tu telefono Can I have your phone. (most of them will)

9. Vete ya Leave now. (hey you never know)

10. No te voy a dar propina I will not give you a tip.

11. Si me gusta lo que haces te dare una buena propina If I like what you do I will give you a tip.

12. Quieres almorzar conmigo manana Would you like to have lunch with me tomorrow.

13. Volteate Turn around.

14. Para Stop.

15. Vamos Let's go.

1. Hi, what's your name?

1 hola, que es tu nombre?

2. You are beautiful.

2 eres linda, guapa.

3. My name is.

3 Mi nombre es.

4. I'm ____ years old.

4 Tengo ____ anos.

5. Can I buy you a beer / dinner?

5 Puedo comprarte una cerveza (in the D. R. Una fria) /cena.

6. Where is a good place to eat / drink?

6 Sabes un lugar de alta calidad para beber / comer?

7. I think I love you.

7 Pienso que te amo.

8. How much for a short time / long time?

8 Cuanto pides para 2 o 3 horas / toda la noche?

9. I want sex / BBBJ / BBBJCIM.

9 Quiero sexo / sexo oral sin preservatio / sexo oral con la leche en tu boca.

10. Ok. Let's go.

10 okay vamos.

11. That was nice. See you later?

11 Eso me gusto, hasta mas tarde.

1. Who, What, when, where, why. These translate to: Quiéand, qué, cuándo, donde, por qué.

2. Short time. All night. How Much. These are important. Poco tiempo. Toda la noche. Cuanto.

3. Money (Dinero). Fifty, one hundred, five hundred, one thousand. Translation is, cincuenta, cien, quinientos, mil.

4. Pussy = Toto. Ass = culo. Butt = Nalga. Titties = Tetas. Body = cuerpo. Face = cara. Pretty = Linda, hermosa, or bonita.

5. Suck me = chuparme. Bare back blow job = chuparme sin condom. Cum in mouth = Leche en tu boca.

Multiple Pops. Try "algunas veces" (ahl-goo-nas ve-ces) (several times)

(dos veces = two times)

Quiero hacer culito. I want to do anal.

El perrito. Doggie.Most of these are wrong, or just aren't what Dominicans would say, though probably you would be understood in most cases. For example Hola, que es tu nombre? Would be rarely heard here as they say "cual es tu nombre" or "como te llamas?"

Henley100
10-19-13, 16:33
Most of these are wrong, or just aren't what Dominicans would say, though probably you would be understood in most cases. For example Hola, que es tu nombre? Would be rarely heard here as they say "cual es tu nombre" or "como te llamas?"Oh well, I tried. Everything I pulled came right out of the DR forums. Nevertheless, as a guy taking a trip rather then setting up residency, so they'll work for me.

Frannie
10-19-13, 20:47
Oh well, I tried. Everything I pulled came right out of the DR forums. Nevertheless, as a guy taking a trip rather then setting up residency, so they'll work for me.Oh you will do fine, but just remember that a lot of the taxi drivers and motoconcho drivers are illiterate, so they may not understand perfectly good Spanish either. Dominican Spanish tends to be very basic and concrete.

I have a friend who lives here and doesn't speak a word of Spanish, but he gets on fine. He just addresses people in English and they seem to understand the gist of what he is saying. Occasionally he calls me on the phone if he is in a pharmacy and wants me to say the name of the medication required to the pharmacist, but he does fine with the ladies.

Bottom line is that it is already understood that you want sex and they want money. The rest is small talk. I still think it is true that if you can converse in Spanish you will get better sex and more of a girlfriend thing, and be able to avoid more bad sex situations, but if you are just coming for a short time and have no intention of learning Spanish for the long term, then you will do fine with English and a few words of Spanish. Hell, there are people here who speak nothing but Russian.

Frannie
10-23-13, 18:54
Oh well, I tried. Everything I pulled came right out of the DR forums. Nevertheless, as a guy taking a trip rather then setting up residency, so they'll work for me.Today I wanted to buy a pineapple, so I told the motoconcho driver to stop by the "fruteria". He continued up the highway and pulled up at the "ferreteria*". Had I wanted to buy a ferret, I would have said so. Probably my bad as I should have said "fluteria". This shows why standard Spanish does not work.

* Actually mean "ironmongers" in Spanish.

Mr Enternational
10-23-13, 20:07
Today I wanted to buy a pineapple, so I told the motoconcho driver to stop by the "fruteria". He continued up the highway and pulled up at the "ferreteria*". Had I wanted to buy a ferret, I would have said so. Probably my bad as I should have said "fluteria". This shows why standard Spanish does not work.

* Actually mean "ironmongers" in Spanish.What the fuck Frannie. Are you still trying to use google to do translations? Did you actually see a ferret at this ferreteria? If so, then I would be curious to ask when was the last time you saw animals in a Home Depot? A ferret at a ferreteria? The root ferrous is from the Latin ferrum meaning iron. Hence, ferreteria means hardware store. And it could have been your accent and not necesarrily the driver's literacy that is causing the misunderstandings.

Frannie
10-23-13, 22:08
What the fuck Frannie. Are you still trying to use google to do translations? Did you actually see a ferret at this ferreteria? If so, then I would be curious to ask when was the last time you saw animals in a Home Depot? A ferret at a ferreteria? The root ferrous is from the Latin ferrum meaning iron. Hence, ferreteria means hardware store. And it could have been your accent and not necesarrily the driver's literacy that is causing the misunderstandings.Don't be such a retard. Of course I know what ferreteria means. I was just making the point that if you don't say "fluteria" for "fruteria" you might end up at a scrapyard.

Grandnash84
11-26-13, 08:00
How much does a taxi cost to el conde from sdq? My taxi guy changed his number and I don't want to use my other guy. I always had a taxi wating for me and never had to take one from the airport before. Any info would be appreciated

BrasilSoccer0
12-17-13, 09:42
Hello gents,

It seems the more I travel the more I want to try new destinations. Colombia, Cuba, Kenya, Transnistria, Germany and now the more I look at Dominicanas photos the more I realize this is where I need to go next; p

I can do all the mongering on my own. It's the same anywhere you go!

I would like your advice on where are the good beach townS where they are not typically known for mongering or not as heavily mongered like Sousa?

And since I have no doubt I'll be there for a couple of months, what's the local economics like? Rent, a sample of actual salaries, hiring a house maid, light bill, gym fees. Etc.

I am fluent in Spanish, love beach towns, and college campuses. LOL

Thanking you in advance.

Charles Pooter
12-18-13, 01:31
TransnistriaNow that trip I would like to read about.


I would like your advice on where are the good beach towns where they are not typically known for mongering or not as heavily mongered like Sosua?There are only two particularly known for prostitution (Sosua and Boca Chica) so take your pick from the rest. And if you have fluent Spanish, P4P will be available anywhere, unless the place is tiny. You will just have to be more discreet about it than you would in the two places named. Avoid Punta Cana and Bavaro, otherwise the DR is your oyster.


And since I have no doubt I'll be there for a couple of months, what's the local economics like? Rent, a sample of actual salaries, hiring a house maid, light bill, gym fees. Etc.You would be better off asking those questions on DR1 (but don't flaunt the mongering angle there). There is masses of information there already so read up first before asking specific questions.


college campusesThere are a couple of college campuses in Puerto Plata where younger and socially acceptable mongers have had great success in the past. I wouldn't call it a beach town, though. The best beaches are a bit outside the city (Cofresi for example is on the same side of the city as the two campuses) but there is more non-working girl nightlife in the city than in Sosua so it might interest you.

BrasilSoccer0
12-18-13, 07:01
CB,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the mentioning of DR1. Just registered in their website and looks like there is a trove of info to be mined.

I wrote a nice candid (no hold backs) detailed report about Transnistria within the Moldova board. It should give you a great idea what to expect. I only wish I lived closer like and Europe. Pm me if you have any Qs.

What do think of these towns?

La Romana.

Cibau.

Santiago.

Barbacua.

A bushy pussy don't bother me neither. LOL

Charles Pooter
12-18-13, 15:06
CB,

What do think of these towns?

La Romana.

Cibau.

Santiago.

Barbacua.Cibao is not a town, it's a geographical area. Santiago is the second city (around 800, 000 pop) and it is inland. Never heard of Barbacua. Do you mean Jarabacoa? It is a picturesque and more affluent town and area but, again, inland. La Romana is a small city on the coast with wealthy gringo enclaves. Read up the appropriate section.

I think the first thing you need to do is spend some time with a map of the DR and decide what your priorities are. I thought your priority was beach towns with or near college campuses?


A bushy pussy don't bother me neither.Does that mean you prefer hairy pussies? The less sophisticated and more "innocent" the girl, the less likely to shave. So in Sosua most putas shave. Out in the campo few girls shave. For the same reasons haitianas are less likely to shave than dominicanas.

Mr Enternational
12-18-13, 16:07
Does that mean you prefer hairy pussies? The less sophisticated and more "innocent" the girl, the less likely to shave. So in Sosua most putas shave. Out in the campo few girls shave.I know plenty of innocent non-hooker campo women and they all shave. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever been with a Dominicana who is not clean shaven. It's too hot down here to have a hairy potter. By the way, stop feeding the trolls.

Charles Pooter
12-18-13, 17:52
I know plenty of innocent non-hooker campo women and they all shave. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever been with a Dominicana who is not clean shaven. It's too hot down here to have a hairy potter.I am not contradicting you because I know you have a lot wider experience than me, but my experience has often been different. Maybe things have changed a bit in the five years since I mongered in the deepest campo, or maybe your chicas were a bit older and had learned a bit more.


By the way, stop feeding the trolls.His second post was a bit silly, but I have now read some of his reports and they are interesting and sound genuine, so he is not a troll. And he is not a braggart or racist either, so he is welcome here as far as I am concerned.

Manizales911
12-18-13, 18:41
I know plenty of innocent non-hooker campo women and they all shave. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever been with a Dominicana who is not clean shaven. It's too hot down here to have a hairy potter. By the way, stop feeding the trolls.In the campo areas I have been in an innocent woman wouldn't think of spending money on something like a razor, they simply can't afford it, if she shaves she is selling her pussy.

Hotzo
12-30-13, 09:50
Hi guys,

Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?

For sure I have experience doing this in other countries (e. G. Cuba and Costa Rica) and I speak basic Spanish.

Having the standards in mind (no gold chains around the neck, no high end cameras, no typical tourist behavior.) , can this be fun or is it just too dangerous?

Planning to do this in April or June. If too unsafe I'll do it in Cuba again where I found lots of nice girls being happy to join me for some trips to beaches by car or just driving around for sightseeing.

Thanks,

Hotzo

Charles Pooter
12-30-13, 17:12
Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?

Can this be fun or is it just too dangerous?Not my idea of fun, but certainly not dangerous provided you use normal common sense.

Sammon
12-30-13, 17:31
Hi guys,

Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?

For sure I have experience doing this in other countries (e. G. Cuba and Costa Rica) and I speak basic Spanish.

Having the standards in mind (no gold chains around the neck, no high end cameras, no typical tourist behavior.) , can this be fun or is it just too dangerous?

Planning to do this in April or June. If too unsafe I'll do it in Cuba again where I found lots of nice girls being happy to join me for some trips to beaches by car or just driving around for sightseeing.

Thanks,

HotzoWhen I used to go to DR a while ago I usually stayed 7 nights in Sosua. Rented a car always.

Tips,

1. Troll through rental sites to get a good deal.

2. Get full insurance when you pick up the car. Do not rely on pre-paid insurance or insurance through credit card. These insurances take forever to pay. If there is a serious damage they will not let you leave the country till the damage is paid.

3. Local people are very helpful and generally will not vandalize your car. It is ok to pick up girls who sometimes are waiting for the bus. I have done that.

4. If you have a local girl touring with you it is better. But I have found that I can pick girls up anywhere rather than stuck with one girl.

5. Roads are generally in good condition. I would avoid night time long distance driving mainly because if you get stuck no help will arrive till next day.

6. You can stop at small towns and go to local eateries or bars. They will treat you with respect as long as you do not drink too much and cause a problem. Robberies happen only at nightime at isolated bad neighbourhoods. If you look Spanish they will never bother you.

7. Maps are accurate only of major roads. Make sure you have a local mobile phone.

Good luck and have fun!

Tempoecorto
12-30-13, 20:50
Hi guys,

Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?Sounds like fun! 4 weeks is a long time and I might get tired driving that long but with apposite breaks, it might be a grand plan.

Sammon and Charles Pooter have valid points. Here are my thoughts based on personal driving experiences.

A) Do not rent a car. Rent a SUV instead, with high ground clearance. I drove a car from Santiago to San jose de las matas to Sabaneta last August and the road runs through mountains and most of it was washed away by rain, often leaving large rocks when the road exists. I had a car and it scared the Jesus out of me. As I was worried that I might damage the car and get stuck in the middle of nowhere and I was alone in those tracts. Indeed it needed focusing more on the road and I could not enjoy the beauty of the surroundings. I saw locals driving their SUVs on those lonely tracts without worrying and understood why there is such a preponderance of such vehicles there.

B) The autopistas I have done are generally good but you need to find out about road conditions of the secondary roads and choose alternatives when appropriate. I found out about bad roads when it was late to look for alternatives. In general, rains are bad for the road as everywhere but because there is poor or no maintenance of the secondary roads (especially in mountainous areas) you need to be more vigilant if you take those. On the other hand, secondary roads are more fun, compared to autopistas.

S) On at least one occasion, the local young people helped me. I was coming back to hotel after dinner (in sabaneta) and in a dark spot my car hit rocks used I presume, to cover (or warn off drivers?) a large hole on the road. The car would not move and there were at least 8-9 young men were around and without even my asking, heaved and lifted the car up to remove the rock. I cannot tell you how pleased I was and they did it out of goodness as young people do. I paid them some money of course. In general night time driving is not a good idea. Because of poor lighting including the highways but I have done it when I need to. Better not mix drinking and driving under those conditions.

D) I got lucky several times during the 3 days excursion. Well, on one occasion, I had to actually work hard but it was fun too for it could have gone either way and for some reason, it was a hit on that occasion. This was in Dajabon. With a chick of the local university. I actually walked with her inside the Uni to figure out if she could skip a class etc. And I had recounted the story in greater detail in a trip report here.

Have fun!

OldKool
12-30-13, 22:53
There is very good bus service to every where in the DR. Having a car that long increases the odds of something happening. SD is a horrible place to drive and I would not reccomend having a car there. The North coast is easy to get around.


Hi guys,

Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?

For sure I have experience doing this in other countries (e. G. Cuba and Costa Rica) and I speak basic Spanish.

Having the standards in mind (no gold chains around the neck, no high end cameras, no typical tourist behavior.) , can this be fun or is it just too dangerous?

Planning to do this in April or June. If too unsafe I'll do it in Cuba again where I found lots of nice girls being happy to join me for some trips to beaches by car or just driving around for sightseeing.

Thanks,

Hotzo

BrasilSoccer0
12-31-13, 21:01
CP,

Thanks a million for that DR1 site you recommended. One thing surprised me there was the cost of electricity and blackouts time! Not even when I lived in Cuba did I recall a blackout as bad as the ones mentioned in DR1. I guess nowhere is perfect, cause when I go to Cuba I bring extra tp. LOL.

The towns I mentioned were recommended to me by a fellow volunteer I met once a couple of yrs ago and they were his experiences. He recommended them based on friendliness of people and maybe beauty of the native women there. I probably should've opened a map first and looked them up. I am mainly interested in beach towns.

Thanks for reading my reports. I used to post on another forum and there I made a nice report on Cuba.


Cibao is not a town, it's a geographical area. Santiago is the second city (around 800, 000 pop) and it is inland. Never heard of Barbacua. Do you mean Jarabacoa? It is a picturesque and more affluent town and area but, again, inland. La Romana is a small city on the coast with wealthy gringo enclaves. Read up the appropriate section.

I think the first thing you need to do is spend some time with a map of the DR and decide what your priorities are. I thought your priority was beach towns with or near college campuses?

Does that mean you prefer hairy pussies? The less sophisticated and more "innocent" the girl, the less likely to shave. So in Sosua most putas shave. Out in the campo few girls shave. For the same reasons haitianas are less likely to shave than dominicanas.

Charles Pooter
12-31-13, 21:28
Better not mix drinking and driving under those conditions.Better not mix drinking and driving under any conditions.

Mr Enternational
12-31-13, 22:09
Thanks a million for that DR1 site you recommended. One thing surprised me there was the cost of electricity and blackouts time! Not even when I lived in Cuba did I recall a blackout as bad as the ones mentioned in DR1.Everyday at my girlfriend's house the electricity and water go off at around 0630 and comes back on at 1800 or later. Fortunate that I only have to stay there 2 or 3 days at a time because I could not put up with that shit living there.

Tempoecorto
01-01-14, 03:49
Better not mix drinking and driving under any conditions.I agree but I have been guilty of that in the DR. I do not drink anything but a beer and on one occasion, I was driving back from Montecristi around late in the day and because of the heat, bought a beer at a carwash. As luck would have it, right after I left the place, a cop flagged me down, I had the just opened bottle sitting right next to me and I was shitting bricks. The cop did not even blink! Phew!

Hotzo
01-01-14, 17:57
Hi there,

Thanks a lot for your info. So as I never drink and drive (it's OR in my case) , I'm not worried about quality of streets or lights as I have this experience from Cuba and I will rent a SUV 4wd with European full insurance for car and accidents and for sure I speak a little bit of Spanish I will go for a car rental. Easy to visit everything, having 4 weeks in total and allows to give some chicas a free ride which they may allow me also.

Happy new year,

Hotzo

Tempoecorto
01-03-14, 04:37
. And allows to give some chicas a free ride which they may allow me also.

Happy new year,

HotzoGood line. Yes, in exchange for a free ride, many will allow you a ride too but not free; however it is always good if you treat her / them well! For me, the happenstance of getting lucky without having planned is the best kick, when on the road!

MattInNorfolk
01-03-14, 16:24
I will be coming in for a week, and would like to get to Bonao, and other towns along the coast and see other places, and meet less experienced girls. My Spanish is passable, but not perfect (especially their version of Spanish). Should I go solo and rent a car, or hire a guide?

Thanks

Mr Enternational
01-03-14, 17:13
I will be coming in for a week, and would like to get to Bonao, and other towns along the coast and see other places, and meet less experienced girls. My Spanish is passable, but not perfect (especially their version of Spanish). Should I go solo and rent a car, or hire a guide?

ThanksRent a car, get a map, follow the road signs, and use the gps on your smartphone. Bonão is not the countryside though, it's a town. And I especially don't think the women there are "less experienced" depending on your meaning. They are people you know. It's not like you going to a new land that has women who have never seen men before.

MattInNorfolk
01-03-14, 22:52
Thanks on the car idea, so I can give them a ride. I just meant less touristy areas and nothing offensive, and I realize they are people and have seen people before.

Thanks for reminding me though!

Mr Enternational
01-04-14, 03:38
Thanks on the car idea, so I can give them a ride. I just meant less touristy areas and nothing offensive, and I realize they are people and have seen people before.

Thanks for reminding me though!It really is less touristy. So if you are not going there to see someone you already know then you may end up considering the evolution a total waste of time. But if you continue south toward Santo Domingo then there will be hookers on the side of the road right past the Bonão exit.

Tempoecorto
01-04-14, 05:58
Thanks on the car idea, so I can give them a ride. I just meant less touristy areas and nothing offensive, and I realize they are people and have seen people before.

Thanks for reminding me though!Mr. Enternational is right. Bonao is a large town. Might be 4th. (after the Capital, Santiago and San Francisco de Macoris) in the nation. With a large supermarket (La sirena) and a University. Right in front. It is easier with an already arranged hook up. Most carry blackberry etc there. This is not to say, you might not get lucky but it is a lot harder especially if you are under a time crunch. The next town on the way to Santo Domingo is Piedra Blanca (has a nice stream there). There is a bar at the traffic light intersection there on the highway. El ciringuito. You might get lucky there.

On that note, I keep hearing about this elusive campo women. As described by the likes of Charles Pooter, who even stated they are unshaven. Would be nice to pick up such a country belle! On that note and along the lines of Mr Enternational's thinking, it must have been nice to be a seaman on the Bounty, heck even Gauguin had a great time centuries later. LOL!

OldKool
01-04-14, 14:48
E you never cease to amaze me. You are DR google.


It really is less touristy. So if you are not going there to see someone you already know then you may end up considering the evolution a total waste of time. But if you continue south toward Santo Domingo then there will be hookers on the side of the road right past the Bonão exit.

BusyBunny
01-11-14, 14:43
Hi,

Apart from Dominicanas and Haitians, are there any other nationalities available for P4P in the DR? I'm not talking of high-end hookers from E. Eur. Or the US, but maybe Jamaicans, Guyanese, or Colombians, Venezuelans, etc.

Catire
01-12-14, 07:33
Could someone tell me what the equivalent of "quit playing" or "quit fucking around" would be in Spanish?

I am speaking in terms of as if a chica was giving you a very poor BJ and you know she is quite capable of doing a better job, and you want to tell her to "cut the bullshit" and suck you off like she does her novio (LOL).

Probably a very crude example, but just trying to put the original question I asked in context.No me jodas . Don't fuck with me. Or no joda.

Commonly used among native speakers, usually friends with a friendly tone of voice and a laugh, but with a stranger and a sterner tone of voice it's a very direct and aggressive way to address the situation.

I would only recommend it as the last verbal warning before throwing her out.

Sammon
01-12-14, 14:58
Hi,

Apart from Dominicanas and Haitians, are there any other nationalities available for P4P in the DR? I'm not talking of high-end hookers from E. Eur. Or the US, but maybe Jamaicans, Guyanese, or Colombians, Venezuelans, etc.You need to go to Costa Rica. They have girls from other central and south American girls.

I have only seen and been with DR and HAITI girls. High end sex resorts had european and other girls on their website. Do not know if they are still open or if they have those girls.

Jooks
01-12-14, 17:00
I've gotten several PM's asking about info on apartments as a result of mentioning them in my semi-recent report on Santo Domingo. I am far from an expert and any input would be helpful. I only rented apartments in SD and Sosua, both good experiences which resulted in saving money.

On both occasions, I used TripAdvisor. TA owns FlipKey, and that's what I used. In Santo Domingo, I rented an extremely spacious apartment in Gascue. 1000+ square feet, nice area near the Malecon and the historic district. It was a gated complex that seemed to consist of mostly expats, though it was mostly empty when I was there. There's parking and a security guard, though no problems having visitors. It was a tad cheaper than a hotel, but I felt there was a lot more freedom. It was $69 / night. If that was the only fee, it would be great, but add on a bunch of stupid add on fees, like $25 clean up fee and an application fee. Plus, you pay electric. While there was no 28% (?) tax, the bullshit fees were kind of a trade off.

In Sosua, the fees weren't nearly as onerous and the apartment was cheaper. Also they had a great swimming pool.

Take care when using Flipkey. Take the reviews with a grain of salt. For example, I became friendly with the agent for the apartment in Gascue. I told him I was going to give it 4 stars, not 5. It didn't merit 5 stars and I wasn't going to bullshit. The only reason I told him beforehand was I want to be able to rent that apartment again. He asked me not to post the review if I wasn't going to give it 5 stars. So, these reviews can be manipulated.

I found that by talking directly to the agent (or owner) is a good way to get a feel for what to expect. The agent for the apartment in Sosua came recommended so that was a no brainer. The apartment was fantastic. The only problem was it was incredibly hot in Sosua at the time and there was only 1 AC, not enough. Otherwise, it was a fantastic deal.

As mentioned by another member, there are many rental sites out there and one shouldn't be confined to Flipkey. For example, the other member's examples, are airnb, northbeachmanagement dot com, bestsosuarealestate dot com and apartments dot com.

My guess is that apartment rentals are only prevalent in the bigger cities / towns and tourist areas.

Rjsss212
01-12-14, 18:44
My guess is that apartment rentals are only prevalent in the bigger cities / towns and tourist areas.I've rented an apartment in Cabarete many times and almost only in Cabarete Palm Beach Condos (link below). They are privately owned mostly by foreigners and rented when not used by the owners. In fact I was negotiating to buy one at one time. For a short term stay they are an exceptional value as they are spectacular (by DR standards) though not the cheapest digs you'll find, but right on the beach with parking and security and GF. Great location right behind the bakery in the center of town. All units are good but the top floor "penthouses" are really great. Again, not the cheapest but for longer stays the owners will negotiate prices.

I have also used VRBO a few times but usually farther out towards Gaspar Hernandez with good results. Some interesting typicos down there as well.

www.cabaretecondos.com

Showdown
01-12-14, 19:26
I want to take my Dominicana to a resort for the weekend. Any recommendations on a seaside resort close to Santo Domingo?

Showdown

Colby Seven
01-27-14, 04:52
Hey guys,

I can not remember where on the ISG board I read about latinamericancupid. Com as a place to find amateurs, but I have spent some time on the site, and the Dominicans are all extremely aggressive. Has anyone else ever tried to exploit the site to meet up with Dominicans?

I have experience in other countries such as Peru, and Colombia. I met with several amateurs who were not difficult to get back to the hotel room. Not sure about why the Dominicans are so aggressive seeking out guys on the site, as I've never been there, but maybe someone has some past experience they could share?

Grub1
01-28-14, 16:41
I will be coming in for a week, and would like to get to Bonao, and other towns along the coast and see other places, and meet less experienced girls. My Spanish is passable, but not perfect (especially their version of Spanish). Should I go solo and rent a car, or hire a guide?

ThanksEven if you do hire a guide more than likely he or she will not even know how to get to the different parts of the DR. Tourist have been way more places than most Dominicans. One has to just get out there and go. Most times asking directions from locals can fuck you up more than you were before you ask. The locals usually only know the way that the public vans / trucks / motors go and sometimes it has been years since the people you ask have even went any where.

If you have someone that you can get along with and don't mind spending your money on them it is nice to have someone with you.

Amigo of King
01-28-14, 16:42
Hi Guys,

I will be moving to DR for retirement this year. Just wanted to know what is my best plan for cell phone there. What type of phone

Should I buy here and what is best cell phone plan to buy there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Amigo of King Kong

Sammon
01-28-14, 17:11
I want to take my Dominicana to a resort for the weekend. Any recommendations on a seaside resort close to Santo Domingo?

ShowdownIf you trust your Dominicana, Dominican nationals get a big discount for stay in AI. She can book and take you there.

Surfer500
01-28-14, 17:55
Hey guys,

I can not remember where on the ISG board I read about latinamericancupid. Com as a place to find amateurs, but I have spent some time on the site, and the Dominicans are all extremely aggressive. Has anyone else ever tried to exploit the site to meet up with Dominicans?

I have experience in other countries such as Peru, and Colombia. I met with several amateurs who were not difficult to get back to the hotel room. Not sure about why the Dominicans are so aggressive seeking out guys on the site, as I've never been there, but maybe someone has some past experience they could share?I've met some nice girls on the Dominican Cupid Website but it takes time and patience along with some Spanish to be successful. I have a sweetheart I spent 6 nights with on my last trip and two new ones lined up to meet when I return next month. The women on this site are aggressive as they want to meet a gringo to spend money on them. I make it very clear what my intentions are before meeting these girls. I tell them I'm in the DR on vacation, not looking for a wife or serious relationship. This is where some of the girls will immediately drop out. I also tell them that I will help them with money if we elect to spend a night together. I hope this helps.

Mr Enternational
01-28-14, 18:50
if you trust your dominicana, dominican nationals get a big discount for stay in ai. she can book and take you there.one of the best places that i have ever been is saona island. they filmed pirates of the caribbean and a blue lagoon movie there. it is not a resort. it is a day trip from punta cana. my girlfriend took me there for free last month. a client of where she works owns one of the tour companies so we got hooked up.

the way it works: a minibus picks you up from your hotel and takes you to bayahibe. (she lives in higuey so we drove to bayahibe from home.) from there you take a speedboat a few yards out into the water and transfer to a catamaran. then it is about an hour and a half on the catamaran to saona island. while on the catamaran there is music, dancing, free rum and coke (no ice unfortunately). when you get close to the island you transfer back onto a speedboat which takes you to the shore. you relax there for a few hours and they provide an all-you-can-eat buffet style lunch. it was damn good too. at 3pm we had to load back onto the speedboat and it took us to the natural swimming pool which is also a breeding ground for starfish. it was 12 sqkm and in the middle of the ocean. we stopped and jumped out of the boats to walk around, swim, and drink more. then it was back to bayahibe in the speedboats.

at the end they pass around a jar for tips. i gave them 500 pesos. my girl asked why i gave so much. i said shit, we came here and got all this for free. the bigger the discount, the bigger the tip. i think the regular price is around $100/person for the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpysddylyy4

https://www.google.com/search?q=saona+piscina+natural&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbo=you&source=univ&sa=x&ei=fuznuooib46vsqtqiogicq&ved=0ccqqsaq

OldKool
01-28-14, 23:17
I too have had great success with Dominican Cupid. I use a similar approach. When it comes to money I never indicate I will pay. I ask what gift they would like me to bring them, I will buy then perfumes and lotions that are very hard to get in the Dr. Depending on how much time I am planning determines the amount I will pay for gifts. I have time to cultivate the relationship prior to getting there. So when we meet we are comfortable with one another. It makes for very hot sex. I have banged every Cupid girl I met with.

QUOTE=Surfer500; 1524915]I've met some nice girls on the Dominican Cupid Website but it takes time and patience along with some Spanish to be successful. I have a sweetheart I spent 6 nights with on my last trip and two new ones lined up to meet when I return next month. The women on this site are aggressive as they want to meet a gringo to spend money on them. I make it very clear what my intentions are before meeting these girls. I tell them I'm in the DR on vacation, not looking for a wife or serious relationship. This is where some of the girls will immediately drop out. I also tell them that I will help them with money if we elect to spend a night together. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

GrownMan1
01-29-14, 00:30
I too have had great success with Dominican Cupid. I use a similar approach. When it comes to money I never indicate I will pay. I ask what gift they would like me to bring them, I will buy then perfumes and lotions that are very hard to get in the Dr. Depending on how much time I am planning determines the amount I will pay for gifts. I have time to cultivate the relationship prior to getting there. So when we meet we are comfortable with one another. It makes for very hot sex. I have banged every Cupid girl I met with.

QUOTE=Surfer500; 1524915]I've met some nice girls on the Dominican Cupid Website but it takes time and patience along with some Spanish to be successful. I have a sweetheart I spent 6 nights with on my last trip and two new ones lined up to meet when I return next month. The women on this site are aggressive as they want to meet a gringo to spend money on them. I make it very clear what my intentions are before meeting these girls. I tell them I'm in the DR on vacation, not looking for a wife or serious relationship. This is where some of the girls will immediately drop out. I also tell them that I will help them with money if we elect to spend a night together. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Count me in this number! Dominican Cupid is the shit! I met a girl who came to see me from Sabaneta. She couldn't speak a lick of English, but gave me the best session since I been in the DR. She is a keeper and on my top 3 list. DC gives me so many options I can't keep up with all the chicas coming at me. It real gives me more options of places and chicas to explore. It beat Tagged hands down and Tagged is free to chat.

GrownMan1
01-29-14, 00:34
[QUOTE=

At the end they pass around a jar for tips. I gave them 500 pesos. My girl asked why I gave so much. I said shit, we came here and got all this for free. The bigger the discount, the bigger the tip. I think the regular price is around $100 / person for the day.

Great minds think alike.

BrasilSoccer0
01-29-14, 01:16
Grownman1, Surfer500, and Oldkool: Bravo!

That was excellent info on DC especially for first time mongers. It oils up the mongering machinery to get it going per say. And it's a great backup if your having a rough day hunting.

While I've never been to the DR, I have used another site for my very first trip to Cuba 4yrs ago and it was a HUGE success. I used a FREE site called CyberCupido and ALLL but one girl accepted the sex. And I can say with confidence from experience that 99% were looking for mutual benefits and 1% serious about a relationship. And of course within that 99% ran the whole gamut of women from hardened jineteras to small town very young ladies wanting to wet their feet in the sex tourism for the first time.

I would like you and others to share their experiences with these sites and give some breakdown of the type of females one would encounter. And also the giographical differences with the women.

Also, please explain the "aggressive" nature of the girls everyone talks about. Are they aggressive in selling their services? Or aggressive in wanting a real relationship?

Surfer500
01-29-14, 02:01
Grownman1, Surfer500, and Oldkool: Bravo!

I would like you and others to share their experiences with these sites and give some breakdown of the type of females one would encounter. And also the giographical differences with the women.

Also, please explain the "aggressive" nature of the girls everyone talks about. Are they aggressive in selling their services? Or aggressive in wanting a real relationship?What you are asking would be difficult for me to answer relative to other site (s). As far as what type of female, everything from white to black and thick and thin. You need to visit the Dominican Cupid dating site as you can search for women over the entire country and the rest of the world if you want to.

As far as the aggressive question, they are not selling any services on this site as it is for "dating", etc. What I do is find out if they are open to an "arrangement" which has worked for me and my Spanish is limited. Some of these girls want a "real relationship", a night in shining armor to take them out of poverty, but short of that they also need money to get by hence they are aggressive in my opinion. If your fluent in Spanish you will do well in setting up meetings, but it takes time to correspond and build a rapport with the women. I cannot predict how you will do with these women once you meet them in person. The other guys on this Site as they have told you are doing well at it and their approach to handle these women is working for them. I'm going to modify my approach with these women now learning what has worked for Grownman and Old Kool. I hope this helps.

OldKool
01-29-14, 02:45
I have 2 cupid girls with almost 3 years of history. One is a total non pro. She has a very lousy job working 6 days a week making 40 US a week. At first she pressed for a serious relationship. Soon realized that was not in the cards and made the best of the other benefits. She lived in Sanfrancisco Demarconis. She absolutely loves DTTY and sex is very sweet. My other is a 180 difference. She meets me in SD but lives in Sosua. I think she worked at BB when she was younger she is in her 30s. That is old for DR putas. She will let you put it any where you want as much as you want. HOT Sex 5 or 6 times a day. When she is through you got nothing in the tank. The way she got my attention is I was planning a trip and was arranging for ladies to meet. She senced my interest was waining so she sent me nude photos. Bingo top of the list.


Grownman1, Surfer500, and Oldkool: Bravo!

That was excellent info on DC especially for first time mongers. It oils up the mongering machinery to get it going per say. And it's a great backup if your having a rough day hunting.

While I've never been to the DR, I have used another site for my very first trip to Cuba 4yrs ago and it was a HUGE success. I used a FREE site called CyberCupido and ALLL but one girl accepted the sex. And I can say with confidence from experience that 99% were looking for mutual benefits and 1% serious about a relationship. And of course within that 99% ran the whole gamut of women from hardened jineteras to small town very young ladies wanting to wet their feet in the sex tourism for the first time.

I would like you and others to share their experiences with these sites and give some breakdown of the type of females one would encounter. And also the giographical differences with the women.

Also, please explain the "aggressive" nature of the girls everyone talks about. Are they aggressive in selling their services? Or aggressive in wanting a real relationship?

BrasilSoccer0
01-29-14, 06:10
OldKool,

That's some nice "carne" on those chicas! Good job!

And bty, thanks for referencing the chica's wage which is within Wikipidia's "List of minimum wages by country"

Every time a monger does that, you have no idea how much it helps put the economics of mongering into perfect understanding for that PARTICULAR country, region, province or town. So thanks again for that detail.

Bty, I HIGHLY recommend EVERY monger novice or expert to keep the above list on one of their browser's tabs and here is that link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country

It is worth mentioning, I used tagged as my first contact ever with the dominican chicas and honestly I'm disappointed. 95% of them had the kinds of photos I learned to associate with pros or just materialistic chicas spoiled by American pop culture.

So to me, when I am asking about the different types of chicas relative to the region she is from I'm concerned to avoid the above chicas and not concerned with the shade of her color that much.

BrasilSoccer0
01-29-14, 06:46
I also forgot to add trying to connect with Dominicanas on MySpace has been a failure for me so far.

And just now I am seeing nice looking Dominicanas on Cybercupido which I am already a member of so I'll try that

D Cups
01-29-14, 17:22
Count me in this number! Dominican Cupid is the shit! I met a girl who came to see me from Sabaneta. She couldn't speak a lick of English, but gave me the best session since I been in the DR. She is a keeper and on my top 3 list. DC gives me so many options I can't keep up with all the chicas coming at me. It real gives me more options of places and chicas to explore. It beat Tagged hands down and Tagged is free to chat.[/QUOTE]

GM and OldKool, I just joined DC based on your recommendations, and was D lighted to see that you can sort the girls by cup size (or many other criteria) for an extra monthly fee. Has anyone done this? Was it worth it? Thanks.

D Cups
01-29-14, 17:29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_countryThis link was quite interesting to look at. Thanks. No wonder why so many beautiful third world women are selling their bodies for what we consider discount prices. Fractions of what it is in the USA and Europe.

OldKool
01-29-14, 22:29
Putas get a weeks pay for a quickie.

Average wage in the DR.

Almost slave wages.

6, 320 Dominican pesos ($167) per month in the FTZs and between 6, 880 pesos and 11, 292 pesos outside the FTZs, depending upon the size of the company; 5, 117 pesos ($130) per month for the public sector; 234 pesos a day for farm workers who are covered by minimum wage regulations based on a 10-hour day, with the exception of sugarcane workers who received 129 pesos ($3. 19) based on an eight-hour workday. [4][72][73]


This link was quite interesting to look at. Thanks. No wonder why so many beautiful third world women are selling their bodies for what we consider discount prices. Fractions of what it is in the USA and Europe.

GrownMan1
01-29-14, 22:41
Grownman1, Surfer500, and Oldkool: Bravo!

That was excellent info on DC especially for first time mongers. It oils up the mongering machinery to get it going per say. And it's a great backup if your having a rough day hunting.

While I've never been to the DR, I have used another site for my very first trip to Cuba 4yrs ago and it was a HUGE success. I used a FREE site called CyberCupido and ALLL but one girl accepted the sex. And I can say with confidence from experience that 99% were looking for mutual benefits and 1% serious about a relationship. And of course within that 99% ran the whole gamut of women from hardened jineteras to small town very young ladies wanting to wet their feet in the sex tourism for the first time.

I would like you and others to share their experiences with these sites and give some breakdown of the type of females one would encounter. And also the giographical differences with the women.

Also, please explain the "aggressive" nature of the girls everyone talks about. Are they aggressive in selling their services? Or aggressive in wanting a real relationship?A close mouth don't get fed. Novio or client means money or help. As soon as these chica see your profile on-line they aggressive respond if they are interested or they save you as a favorite. Relationship or hook up depends on the female and your game plan. I remember one chica saying "I am not looking for friends I have enough, just tell me what you want". As soon as she does one or both of these responses DC notifies you (right there on-line or by email) with a brief picture. You can explore then or later! An American with so so looks is the "Golden Calf" and can get hits all day. You can hit a chica up the same way. You can see what age ranges she likes, her age, and more personal info. You can also view girls similar to her. If you are a beginner and don't know any Spanish try to deal with the chicas that speak some English.

Allot of us deal with chicas better when we have a little knowledge and rapture prior to meeting. Having her visit you while you are in the DR give you better control over your relations and like my man OlK say having young sexy tender chicas waiting for your visit to the DR is exciting.

Its on you to read into your chica intentions but remember this:

1. All of these chicas can uses some cash. Even if she doesn't come out and ask you.

2. A chica solo with many pic dressing provocative might be a semi or pro.

3. A chica with pictures of herself and love ones (mother, father, kids etc) might be looking for something more.

4. If she live in Sosua 95% she is a semi to pro.

5. If she is 18-25 and is looking for a man 35-80 : well you get the picture.

6."Student" means I don't have a job! And you will see a lot of students.

7. If she is on the site every time you get on no matter the hour. She is fishing hard!

8. A serious chica will tell you off the rip what she is looking for. If she is playing it by hear then you set the tone.

9. No picture chicas should be avoided!

10. Don't put all your marbles with 1 chica.

11. If she is not the girl on the picture when you meet her Stop! Kill the bullshit right there!

I am pretty sure Sufer500, Olk and other can keep add on to this.

OldKool
01-29-14, 23:19
Nope you nailed it. Getting a chica who to green is a mistake. Always flirt with the girls and try to discuss sex. If she pushes back move on. The girl you are looking for knows sex is her gift to you. You can be subtle. As is we will be staying in a hotel room together (HINT). If she gives the slightest push back cut bait. Use your charm and her greed and need to reel her in.

I am pretty sure Sufer500, Olk and other can keep add on to this.[/QUOTE]

Surfer500
01-29-14, 23:30
A close mouth don't get fed. Novio or client means money or help. As soon as these chica see your profile on-line they aggressive respond if they are interested or they save you as a favorite. Relationship or hook up depends on the female and your game plan. I remember one chica saying "I am not looking for friends I have enough, just tell me what you want". As soon as she does one or both of these responses DC notifies you (right there on-line or by email) with a brief picture. You can explore then or later! An American with so so looks is the "Golden Calf" and can get hits all day. You can hit a chica up the same way. You can see what age ranges she likes, her age, and more personal info. You can also view girls similar to her. If you are a beginner and don't know any Spanish try to deal with the chicas that speak some English...This is an excellent summary of what I have experienced and encountered on the DC Site with one exception. I have gotten over two hundred interested notifications from all over the DR and have yet to encounter one chica that responded or speaks English since joining three months ago. If you don't speak any Spanish, don't waste your time as you will be dead in the water when you have to converse with them which for me has been online chatting, via-E Mail, by Skype, by phone, and texting. I have four lined up when I arrive next week, two new ones and two from my last trip. I'm now trying to figure out how to manage my leche between the DC chicas and those I'll be taking from the Strip!

Surfer500
01-29-14, 23:33
Nope you nailed it. Getting a chica who to green is a mistake. Always flirt with the girls and try to discuss sex. If she pushes back move on. The girl you are looking for knows sex is her gift to you. You can be subtle. As is we will be staying in a hotel room together (HINT). If she gives the slightest push back cut bait. Use your charm and her greed and need to reel her in.

I am pretty sure Sufer500, Olk and other can keep add on to this.All my DC chicas know what's going to happen in the room!

D Cups
01-29-14, 23:40
GM and OldKool, I just joined DC based on your recommendations, and was D lighted to see that you can sort the girls by cup size (or many other criteria) for an extra monthly fee. Have you or anyone else done this?

Was it worth it? Thanks.Anybody? Thanks.

GrownMan1
01-30-14, 00:29
Anybody? Thanks.Yes I paid and will pay again!

Mr Enternational
01-30-14, 01:36
Nope you nailed it. Getting a chica who to green is a mistake. Always flirt with the girls and try to discuss sex. If she pushes back move on. The girl you are looking for knows sex is her gift to you. You can be subtle. As is we will be staying in a hotel room together (HINT). If she gives the slightest push back cut bait. Use your charm and her greed and need to reel her in.No wonder y'all think every girl in DR is a hooker, because the hookers are the ones you are looking for while rejecting the normal women. At the same time I reject women online who start talking about bringing them gifts and I haven't even met them. So that has been the X factor all of this time. I was wondering why I keep ending up with all these non-pros, while you guys are swearing ALL the women in DR expect to be given money and gifts. It's because you entice them with the promise of money and gifts beforehand if they choose to stay with you. I never discuss sex with a woman online, but 95% of the time it happens anyway.

GrownMan1
01-30-14, 05:10
This is an excellent summary of what I have experienced and encountered on the DC Site with one exception. I have gotten over two hundred interested notifications from all over the DR and have yet to encounter one chica that responded or speaks English since joining three months ago.!Wow are you serious, I have met many in the 1 month I have been on. I avoid notifications a lot. I try to stay away from the semi and pros except if when I see a chica just for the noch in my belt. My friend I met after a week called me and speaks well. She made it clear her intentions and level of the game that she understands and is done playing. Sufer500 you have the option of picking a chica in a profile that "says speaks some or fluent English! I put my chicas in catergories. Novias and knock offs, but that me I do the DR a lot.

Surfer500
01-30-14, 06:08
Wow are you serious, I have met many in the 1 month I have been on. I avoid notifications a lot. I try to stay away from the semi and pros except if when I see a chica just for the noch in my belt. My friend I met after a week called me and speaks well. She made it clear her intentions and level of the game that she understands and is done playing. Sufer500 you have the option of picking a chica in a profile that "says speaks some or fluent English! I put my chicas in catergories. Novias and knock offs, but that me I do the DR a lot.Grown Man I checked and actually received almost 400 "Interested Notifications" and ignored the majority of them as they were either outside the Puerto Plata / Sosua area or the girls were undesirable. Of the ones I followed up, some of their profiles said they spoke some English, but most of them really didn't even speak enough to say a complete sentence, just a few words here and there. For someone who doesn't speak any Spanish, their choices and options are going to be extremely limited on the DC website. My guess is that less than 5 % of the girls on this Site are actually fluent or at least semi-fluent in English. My guess is you speak some Spanish, I can't imagine anyone who doesn't speak any Spanish having much success on this Site.

OldKool
01-30-14, 11:31
Novias bring complications I do not want. I try not to lie or mislead the ladies. A semi pro understands and will give me every thing I want with no ties.


Wow are you serious, I have met many in the 1 month I have been on. I avoid notifications a lot. I try to stay away from the semi and pros except if when I see a chica just for the noch in my belt. My friend I met after a week called me and speaks well. She made it clear her intentions and level of the game that she understands and is done playing. Sufer500 you have the option of picking a chica in a profile that "says speaks some or fluent English! I put my chicas in catergories. Novias and knock offs, but that me I do the DR a lot.

GrownMan1
01-31-14, 02:57
Novias bring complications I do not want. I try not to lie or mislead the ladies. A semi pro understands and will give me every thing I want with no ties.I feel ya OlK sometimes I feel cursed for having novias in certain areas. In the clubs in BC my novia there is constantly making sure the other chicas know I am hands off. A lot are scared of her. One chica I really want came out and told me she has to leave me alone because she doesn't want no problems with Haitians. On the flip side I and trust her to a point. She doesn't asked for money but I look out. I have given her a lot of second hand clothes and cheap dollars store items for her business. If she is trying to have something I don't mind helping. I am going to have me a novia in every good area of the DR. Accept Sosua.

OldKool
01-31-14, 03:45
Do not get me wrong. Having a DR girl friend is wonderful. They treat you like a man wants to be treated. Yes you can relax with them. When you get that kind of treatment gifts and money are well spent money. I am older now and having 20 something girl friends seems a bit silly but it does not stop me. I have a few 30 plus girls that are fun as well.


I feel ya OlK sometimes I feel cursed for having novias in certain areas. In the clubs in BC my novia there is constantly making sure the other chicas know I am hands off. A lot are scared of her. One chica I really want came out and told me she has to leave me alone because she doesn't want no problems with Haitians. On the flip side I and trust her to a point. She doesn't asked for money but I look out. I have given her a lot of second hand clothes and cheap dollars store items for her business. If she is trying to have something I don't mind helping. I am going to have me a novia in every good area of the DR. Accept Sosua.

Charles Pooter
02-10-14, 20:51
A new poster has sent me a PM here and I see he copied it to many of us. To save us all replying separately and duplicating information I thought it would be more helpful to him and other new readers to pool our thoughts here. I shall not mention his board name but he can join in if he wants to acknowledge his PM and guys can still reply privately if they prefer.


Hello, I saw your post about Dominican women. I have the funds to live there for a few months, because its close and so cheap. Ive heard that alot of Dominincans hate dark/black skin, since im a dark skin black american. Do you think they would still be interested? Also, do you know of anyone that could show me around and introduce me to people in the DR? In any city, could be Santo Domingo, PP, or BC.I see you have written to everyone on the board so I will be brief.

There is widespread and insitutional racism here but if you are a gringo, and have a little money to spend, that trumps all else. If you were applying for a job or to live in an exclusive area that might be different.

You won't find a pale-skinned non-working girlfriend but for P4P it makes no difference. Lots of black Americans have a great time here.

If you go to one of the gringo mongering places to live, you will find ex-pats to help get you started. I could help in Puerto Plata for example.

Any reason you do not include Sosua on your list? That is the most popular destination.

Don't think the DR is cheap to live. Rents are cheap. Women are cheap. Rum is cheap. Public transport is cheap. A visit to the doctor is cheap (But medicines are expensive). Everything else is the same as the US or more expensive and quality is generally inferior. And there are lots of hidden costs to living here, popularly known as "The Gringo Tax".

MiamiSammy
02-13-14, 17:46
When I was in DR in August they had implemented a new $80 fee to leave the country. Is that still in force? If not, what is the current fee?

Grandnash84
02-13-14, 19:45
When I was in DR in August they had implemented a new $80 fee to leave the country. Is that still in force? If not, what is the current fee?Never heard if an exit fee before in my life and I visit the dr every 3 or 4 months. Just left dr last week. You got ripped off bud, but them again it could be different policies if your not american

Troubleman69
02-13-14, 23:13
I was in the DR last week, and I didn't pay an exit fee out of my pocket. Was it out of pocket, or tacked on to your ticket price? My ticket price in Jan / Feb was the same as it was in October.

Charles Pooter
02-14-14, 01:09
Never heard if an exit fee before in my life and I visit the dr every 3 or 4 months. Just left dr last week. You got ripped off bud, but them again it could be different policies if your not americanWhenn I used to travel to the DR and back from the UK, the departure fee was US$10 (had to be paid in dollars). Visitors from the US had already paid it included in their airfares. Not sure about other countries.

Or maybe the distinction was between charter flights (like mine) and scheduled flights, regardless of country?

Charles Pooter
02-14-14, 01:11
When I was in DR in August they had implemented a new $80 fee to leave the country. Is that still in force? If not, what is the current fee?Are you saying 80 dollars or 80 pesos? The former seems too much to be realistic and the latter too little.

Llttf
02-14-14, 02:39
Whenn I used to travel to the DR and back from the UK, the departure fee was US$10 (had to be paid in dollars). Visitors from the US had already paid it included in their airfares. Not sure about other countries.

Or maybe the distinction was between charter flights (like mine) and scheduled flights, regardless of country?I hate to correct you Sir Pooter but the exit fee was $ 20 and it is now incorporated into the airline ticket price. For a while charter flights had to pay at the airport and scheduled flights were included, this of course added to the confusion.

Charles Pooter
02-14-14, 03:10
I hate to correct you Sir Pooter but the exit fee was $ 20 and it is now incorporated into the airline ticket price. For a while charter flights had to pay at the airport and scheduled flights were included, this of course added to the confusion.Thanks. I originally wrote "20" then for some reason edited it to "10". Thanks for clearing that up.

What is the current position?

Llttf
02-15-14, 18:19
Thanks. I originally wrote "20" then for some reason edited it to "10". Thanks for clearing that up.

What is the current position?AFAIK the $ 20 is included in the price of the ticket for everyone now. They even took out the counter where the used to collect the money. I did read a report recently somewhere that some official looking guy was trying to rip passengers off by trying to collect an exit fee. In the departures area of the airport.

Shamester
02-15-14, 18:36
Thanks. I originally wrote "20" then for some reason edited it to "10". Thanks for clearing that up.

What is the current position?My ticket to the DR has a DR Airport Authority Fee at $15 and DR Airport Infrastructure Fee at $16.30.

IMO no additional charges should be occurring.

Jimmy Di
02-16-14, 07:56
My girlfriend, who's very attractive, and I have been to Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, etc, to vacation and enjoy the company of attractive, sexy girls. I thought that we would take a short notice trip to a nice beach location in DR but I need some advice.

What we normally do is stay in very nice hotels and bring the girls back to our room. Reading the various posts, it seems that Sousa may be the best place to visit because of its great beach and mongering possibilities. However, looking at the hotels in Sousa, I haven't found any really nice ones. Does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should I be looking to visit another area in DR.

Also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am I better off not considering DR at all?

Thanks for any advice.

Member #4351
02-16-14, 15:49
Also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am I better off not considering DR at all? Yes. No really nice hotels in Sosua anyway.

Manny51
02-16-14, 16:55
My girlfriend, who's very attractive, and I have been to Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, etc, to vacation and enjoy the company of attractive, sexy girls. I thought that we would take a short notice trip to a nice beach location in DR but I need some advice.

What we normally do is stay in very nice hotels and bring the girls back to our room. Reading the various posts, it seems that Sousa may be the best place to visit because of its great beach and mongering possibilities. However, looking at the hotels in Sousa, I haven't found any really nice ones. Does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should I be looking to visit another area in DR.

Also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am I better off not considering DR at all?

Thanks for any advice.Dominicans are of mixed African / latino descent, with the emphasis on African. You may find some with lighter complexions, but if they are generally not your type, you should pick another destination. But on the whole, I think that you should check it out anyway. You never know what you may turn out liking. And if it turns out to be not your thing, the DR is a very inexpensive vacation anyway.

Sosua is the best option if you don't want to move around. Its the only place that has everything, including expedient transportation. Just don't go expecting a beautiful, beachside oasis. It is definitely not.

Yanqui69
02-16-14, 16:57
My girlfriend, who's very attractive, and I have been to Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, etc, to vacation and enjoy the company of attractive, sexy girls. I thought that we would take a short notice trip to a nice beach location in DR but I need some advice.

What we normally do is stay in very nice hotels and bring the girls back to our room. Reading the various posts, it seems that Sousa may be the best place to visit because of its great beach and mongering possibilities. However, looking at the hotels in Sousa, I haven't found any really nice ones. Does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should I be looking to visit another area in DR.

Also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am I better off not considering DR at all?

Thanks for any advice.Your description makes you sound like a bit of a "high-roller."

Sosua would definitely not be to your taste.

"Very nice" hotels are more likely to be found in Santiago, Santo Domingo, Punta Cana, Bavaro, etc.

The last two, in particular, are upscale tourist areas, and you are more likely to find lighter-skinned girls in those areas.

That said, the DR population is mostly in shades of brown, from caramel to dark chocolate.

Fair-skinned girls are definitely in the minority, and are often of a social-economic class that doesn't compel them to "rent their affection. '

Another alternative would be one of the high-priced (over-priced) complexes which cater to mongers who think there is status in overpaying for accommodations and women.

These complexes often offer Eastern European women, but be prepared to pay their prices.

Information on such complexes are found in the threads. They tend to be located on the North Coast.

Manny51
02-16-14, 17:03
my girlfriend, who's very attractive, and i have been to thailand, philippines, colombia, etc, to vacation and enjoy the company of attractive, sexy girls. i thought that we would take a short notice trip to a nice beach location in dr but i need some advice.

what we normally do is stay in very nice hotels and bring the girls back to our room. reading the various posts, it seems that sousa may be the best place to visit because of its great beach and mongering possibilities. however, looking at the hotels in sousa, i haven't found any really nice ones. does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should i be looking to visit another area in dr.

also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am i better off not considering dr at all?

thanks for any advice.if you read general tourists books on the dr, you will find that they are many fun things to do along the north coast. the damajuaga falls, kite-surfing, etc. there is no one place that has it all, and you will find all the high-points spread out. the fun zone extends from blackbeards to cabarete. but that's a one hour drive stretch. the most convenient thing is to have a car, so you can move around to your tastes. but that is a very controversial topic. if you read back, you'll see debates rage on it every few months. cabarete is the most well-developed tourist wise, with several good hotel options. it is the world center for kite surfing, and that has brought with it a certain amount of civic development.

imho, the nicest beach is in cabarete. lots of [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) activities there too, as well as restaurant choice. thin on the nightlife though. you would have to cab it to sosua, which wouldn't be cheap.

Yanqui69
02-16-14, 17:07
Your description makes you sound like a bit of a "high-roller."

Sosua would definitely not be to your taste.

"Very nice" hotels are more likely to be found in Santiago, Santo Domingo, Punta Cana, Bavaro, etc.

The last two, in particular, are upscale tourist areas, and you are more likely to find lighter-skinned girls in those areas.

That said, the DR population is mostly in shades of brown, from caramel to dark chocolate.

Fair-skinned girls are definitely in the minority, and are often of a social-economic class that doesn't compel them to "rent their affection. '

Another alternative would be one of the high-priced (over-priced) complexes which cater to mongers who think there is status in overpaying for accommodations and women.

These complexes often offer Eastern European women, but be prepared to pay their prices.

Information on such complexes are found in the threads. They tend to be located on the North Coast.FOLLOW UP:

You might also investigate either BlackBeard's or Field of Dreams; both adult complexes in the Puerto Plata area.

Both are comfortable, and well accommodated, but not real upscale, if that is what you need.

Both often have fair-skinned (but not "white") girls on-site, or are willing to call one.

Charles Pooter
02-16-14, 19:58
You might also investigate either BlackBeard's or Field of Dreams; both adult complexes in the Puerto Plata area.

Both are comfortable, and well accommodated, but not real upscale, if that is what you need.

Both often have fair-skinned (but not "white") girls on-site, or are willing to call one.An advantage of staying at either of those places is that the management will point you in the direction of chicas who are willing to do M / F/F threesomes. Such chicas are harder to find in the DR that in some other countries you have been. Of course you can find such chicas yourself in Sosua, but many of them who do that are really hardcore and you might be disappointed or scammed, whereas as BB or FoD you are in a gringo-managed safe environment.

You will find prices very fair at both places. They are not among the over-priced places catering to the gullible which someone mentioned.

Local white-skinned working-girls are rarer in the DR than dry farts. Most of those that do exist cater to richer Dominicans and are not available to tourists. It is not just a question of money. East European imports are available at high prices, as are "fair-skinned" (but not white) girls.

Jimmy Di
02-16-14, 20:38
An advantage of staying at either of those places is that the management will point you in the direction of chicas who are willing to do M / F/F threesomes. Such chicas are harder to find in the DR that in some other countries you have been. Of course you can find such chicas yourself in Sosua, but many of them who do that are really hardcore and you might be disappointed or scammed, whereas as BB or FoD you are in a gringo-managed safe environment.

You will find prices very fair at both places. They are not among the over-priced places catering to the gullible which someone mentioned.

Local white-skinned working-girls are rarer in the DR than dry farts. Most of those that do exist cater to richer Dominicans and are not available to tourists. It is not just a question of money. East European imports are available at high prices, as are "fair-skinned" (but not white) girls.I was thinking that there would only be men at BlackBeard's and at Field of Dreams and that my girl wouldn't feel that comfortable staying there, am I wrong assuming that?

Also I did find online a small boutique hotel in Sousa that looks somewhat decent called Casa Veintiuno. Does anyone know if they're girl-friendly?

Thank you again for your help.

Frannie
02-16-14, 23:14
An advantage of staying at either of those places is that the management will point you in the direction of chicas who are willing to do M / F/F threesomes. Such chicas are harder to find in the DR that in some other countries you have been. Of course you can find such chicas yourself in Sosua, but many of them who do that are really hardcore and you might be disappointed or scammed, whereas as BB or FoD you are in a gringo-managed safe environment.

You will find prices very fair at both places. They are not among the over-priced places catering to the gullible which someone mentioned.

Local white-skinned working-girls are rarer in the DR than dry farts. Most of those that do exist cater to richer Dominicans and are not available to tourists. It is not just a question of money. East European imports are available at high prices, as are "fair-skinned" (but not white) girls.It is easy enough to find girls who will participate in threesomes including girl on girl sex, but finding white-skinned girls, no. The enquirer would be better off going to some other country if satisfying his mate's craving for light skin is a factor.

Rjsss212
02-16-14, 23:52
However, looking at the hotels in Sousa, I haven't found any really nice ones. Does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should I be looking to visit another area in DR.Upscale, forget it, they all suck. Think Motel 6. The best room I've found is the presidents' suite in the SD Hilton. Hardly 'presidential' by American standards but very nice by any measure.

Pooters right in that fair skinned girls are not indigenous but there are many (though rarely in sosewer) that have Caucasian features thereby making them just like American girls with a good tan like the one here (in the presidential suite). Got her in a bar called I think 305 but that was a few years ago. Very walkable and was safe then and on the malecon. Interesting city also and I think it fits your crit.


All provocative and challenging posts, nothing original as far I've gone back.

I am not concluding anything, but please go back and do your own research before responding.My guess is that he's just a high school kid as his posts rarely rise above sophomoric in either argument quality or trip info. And his recent summary of the Jamaican mongering scene was laughable suggesting he might have been there with his parents.

But as you say, reach your own conclusion.

Yanqui69
02-17-14, 00:08
It is easy enough to find girls who will participate in threesomes including girl on girl sex, but finding white-skinned girls, no. The enquirer would be better off going to some other country if satisfying his mate's craving for light skin is a factor.A visit to the photo gallery for this thread would show what is available. Not sure what the girlfriend's preferences are, but there are light-skinned girls with what are considered "Latin" looks that could "fit the bill."

Jimmy Di
02-17-14, 03:05
Your description makes you sound like a bit of a "high-roller."

Sosua would definitely not be to your taste.

"Very nice" hotels are more likely to be found in Santiago, Santo Domingo, Punta Cana, Bavaro, etc.

The last two, in particular, are upscale tourist areas, and you are more likely to find lighter-skinned girls in those areas.

That said, the DR population is mostly in shades of brown, from caramel to dark chocolate.

Fair-skinned girls are definitely in the minority, and are often of a social-economic class that doesn't compel them to "rent their affection. '

Another alternative would be one of the high-priced (over-priced) complexes which cater to mongers who think there is status in overpaying for accommodations and women.

These complexes often offer Eastern European women, but be prepared to pay their prices.

Information on such complexes are found in the threads. They tend to be located on the North Coast.So perhaps Punta Cana and Bravaro, with nicer hotels there, would be locations to consider. What are the mongering possibilities like?

OldKool
02-17-14, 23:30
You can rent luxury homes and apartments all over the North Coast. These places are very nice. They rival anything in SD or PC.


So perhaps Punta Cana and Bravaro, with nicer hotels there, would be locations to consider. What are the mongering possibilities like?

Yanqui69
02-18-14, 15:41
So perhaps Punta Cana and Bravaro, with nicer hotels there, would be locations to consider. What are the mongering possibilities like?No idea. (Anyone else?)

Bavaro, but especially Punta Cana are very upscale. (Julio Iglesias, among others, owns a property there).

Being a resort area for people with money means any "mongering" would be very discreet / expensive, but even wealthy people want to get laid.

FYI, I saw the latest newsletter from BlackBeards and there were several lighter-skinned girls on the site.

Suggest you look up its site online and sign up (its free) for the monthly newsletter to get an idea.

If you like, you can unsubscribe later.

Yanqui69
02-18-14, 15:45
I was thinking that there would only be men at BlackBeard's and at Field of Dreams and that my girl wouldn't feel that comfortable staying there, am I wrong assuming that?

Also I did find online a small boutique hotel in Sousa that looks somewhat decent called Casa Veintiuno. Does anyone know if they're girl-friendly?

Thank you again for your help.Of course the clientele at BlackBeards (BB) is almost all male, but I have seen the occasional couple at both BB and Field of Dreams (FOD).

Any venue for such activity will be mostly male, but shyness seems out of place in this activity.

Mr Enternational
02-18-14, 16:02
So perhaps Punta Cana and Bravaro, with nicer hotels there, would be locations to consider. What are the mongering possibilities like?You might want to read the Punta Cana thread first before asking questions. Camaro just recently went through the trouble of doing an in-dept write up on the area last month.

Yanqui69
02-18-14, 20:04
You might want to read the Punta Cana thread first before asking questions. Camaro just recently went through the trouble of doing an in-dept write up on the area last month.Agree.

Just checked that thread and its all there.

(Not in my price range, so have never wandered into that thread).

Jimmy Di
02-18-14, 23:02
Agree.

Just checked that thread and its all there.

(Not in my price range, so have never wandered into that thread).Thank you everyone for your help on this.

D Cups
02-20-14, 16:23
Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electronic talking translator (English < Spanish)? Thanks.

Grandnash84
02-21-14, 07:09
Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electronic talking translator (English < Spanish)? Thanks.Just get rosetta stone. Yull be having conversations after the secend level

Frannie
02-21-14, 12:33
Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electronic talking translator (English < Spanish)? Thanks.Most people use Google Translate or Bing these days with a wireless device. They also work for Kreyol. You can download Spanish and use offline, also use camera to photograph and translate menus or documents.

Monger#77
02-22-14, 04:52
If a man has a wife or GF who lives in the Dominican Republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?

Mr OReilly
02-22-14, 05:09
Most people use Google Translate or Bing these days with a wireless device. They also work for Kreyol. You can download Spanish and use offline, also use camera to photograph and translate menus or documents.If anyone uses Bing then they must not be technologically saavy! Google or nothing. I don't even know why anyone would use anything other than google ever.

Frannie
02-22-14, 07:35
If anyone uses Bing then they must not be technologically saavy! Google or nothing. I don't even know why anyone would use anything other than google ever.Google Translate is not available with Windows phone.

Bing translator seems fine to me, though I rarely use it as I speak Spanish pretty well.

Mr Enternational
02-22-14, 08:50
If a man has a wife or GF who lives in the Dominican Republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?0. If she was surviving before she met you then she won't suddenly perish without your money after she meets you.

GrownMan1
02-22-14, 16:23
Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electronic talking translator (English < Spanish)? Thanks.If you have a smart phone you can download a translate app for free. It can be used were wifi is available or if you have service in the DR. Make sure U-turn off your data delivery so your phone can just pull wifi.

Frannie
02-22-14, 18:24
If you have a smart phone you can download a translate app for free. It can be used were wifi is available or if you have service in the DR. Make sure U-turn off your data delivery so your phone can just pull wifi.The point I made about the Bing translate program is that you can download the English-Spanish pack and then you can also use it OFFLINE even if you do not have a wifi connection. This is also possible with Google Translate (though I have not tried it) which is said to be technologically superior. Google Translate runs on Android phones and also on Apple.

Frannie
02-22-14, 18:29
if a man has a wife or gf who lives in the dominican republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?this would depend entirely on her living situation, for example does she live with family or rent her own apartment, pay utilities (cooking gas, electricity) etc, does she have children and need to buy [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), milk, formula, or school uniforms, supplies, and fees, what are her transportation needs, do you want her to have a data package so she can skype you or does she have an apartment where there is wifi included, how much income does she have, does she owe any money for installment purchases, and so on?

Tempoecorto
02-22-14, 19:19
The point I made about the Bing translate program is that you can download the English-Spanish pack and then you can also use it OFFLINE even if you do not have a wifi connection. This is also possible with Google Translate (though I have not tried it) which is said to be technologically superior. Google Translate runs on Android phones and also on Apple.I have google translate on my android. It works well. You can type or speak or write or capture photos (as you mentioned). Works better and faster when it is connected than offline.

Frannie
02-22-14, 21:23
61 year old Czech woman lived there since 1998. Very suspicious.

http://detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/3879-desconocido-asesina-a-tiros-a-residente-checoslovaquia-al-resistirse-a-un-asalto-en-sosua

XXL
02-22-14, 21:35
If a man has a wife or GF who lives in the Dominican Republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?Don't be a mangina. Let her fuck for her bucks. If you send her money she'll just raise her standards and fuck men who offer more money. In doing so she runs more risk of leaving you for another man (one with more money). Save your money so that you can travel back and be with her sooner.

TomJackin
02-25-14, 08:38
Here are the deadliest countries with automobile accidents, along with the number of fatalities per 100, 000 residents. Note that there's only one overlapping country, Malawi. ("Congo" refers to the Republic of the Congo, not the Democratic Republic of the Congo, which is a completely separate country.)

1. Namibia (45)

2. Thailand (44)

3. Iran (38)

4. Sudan (36)

5. Swaziland (36)

6. Venezuela (35)

7. Congo (34)

8. Malawi (32)

9. Dominican Republic (32)

10. Iraq (32)

Jooks
02-25-14, 12:45
If a man has a wife or GF who lives in the Dominican Republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?Add her latitude and longitude and divide by bra size. If she doesn't wear a bra, send 75% of your pay check.

Berthold
02-25-14, 14:16
61 year old Czech woman lived there since 1998. Very suspicious.

http://detrasdelrumor.com/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/3879-desconocido-asesina-a-tiros-a-residente-checoslovaquia-al-resistirse-a-un-asalto-en-sosuaThe couple had a business on the beach right next to Hermans place. They sold the business a couple of years ago and tried to leave the country as they were broke. Crime against foreigners is increasing in the D. R. About a month ago a swiss guy was murdered in Santo Domingo when he left a restaurant with his wife. About the same time a dutch guy was also killed in Santo Domingo while riding on his bike. About 2 weeks ago a canadian missionary was shot 9 times in Cabarete and they also found a Russian guy dead in his home in cabarete a couple of weeks ago.

Listen Diario had an article about crime against foreigners a couple of days ago.

When friends ask me is it safe over there, I tell them it used to be.

May her soul rest in peace

Berthold
02-25-14, 14:25
If a man has a wife or GF who lives in the Dominican Republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?Do not send any money, she made a living before she met you, and she will make a living once you are gone.

In case you send money, be prepared that it will never be enough. And add amout x for the monthy / weekly emergencias / emergencies

D Cups
02-25-14, 16:36
Hey Jooks, this is the funniest thing I've read on ISG for awhile. Thanks for the laugh.

Tempoecorto
02-25-14, 16:41
Here are the deadliest countries with automobile accidents, along with the number of fatalities per 100, 000 residents. Note that there's only one overlapping country, Malawi. ("Congo" refers to the Republic of the Congo, not the Democratic Republic of the Congo, which is a completely separate country.)Thanks for that. So both Thailand and the DR is bad. LOL.

I am confused about the two Congos. That I knew of, Zaire (previously known as Congo) has now been re-christened as Congo. Which is the other one?

Charles Pooter
02-26-14, 13:24
I am confused about the two Congos. That I knew of, Zaire (previously known as Congo) has now been re-christened as Congo. Which is the other one?You could have googled an online map quicker than posting that question.

Charles Pooter
02-26-14, 13:38
Before you decide to rent a carThese high fatality rates in Third World countries are caused by many factors, lack of driving skills, poorly maintained vehicles, poor road services and signage, little control on driving under the influence, etc. But by far the biggest cause is lack of emergency rescue services, skilled doctors and nurses, equipment or blood supplies.

What could be a nasty accident in a First World country, leading to a couple of months off work and a permanent scar, will often be a fatality here. If you don't bleed to death waiting for help, you could arrive at a "hospital" with no trained doctors or blood in your group.

But that is not the main reason not to rent a car, because you are just as likely, if not more likely, to be hurt riding in publicos or on motos.

The main reason not to drive here is the prevalence of auto-related scams and thefts and the likelihood of expensive legal process (including large bribes) if you are involved in an accident, even where you may be completely blameless. It is not unknown for a tiguere driving a worthless heap of scrap to ram a gringo then claim for a replacement car.

Tempoecorto
02-26-14, 16:22
The main reason not to drive here is the prevalence of auto-related scams and thefts and the likelihood of expensive legal process (including large bribes) if you are involved in an accident, even where you may be completely blameless. It is not unknown for a tiguere driving a worthless heap of scrap to ram a gringo then claim for a replacement car.I drive there for the freedom it affords me but I am also scared stiff reading about this stuff. I keep saying to myself, it is just a question of time, before this happens to me.

Grub1
02-26-14, 16:42
These high fatality rates in Third World countries are caused by many factors, lack of driving skills, poorly maintained vehicles, poor road services and signage, little control on driving under the influence, etc. But by far the biggest cause is lack of emergency rescue services, skilled doctors and nurses, equipment or blood supplies.I suggest to all new mongers to the DR that before signing off on your desired car with the rental agency take time to exam all 4 tires really well this country from Boca Chica to Sosua is notorious for giving people auto's with bad tires. I can not say enough about the shitty tires this country tries to pawn off on people renting auto's

Tempoecorto
03-03-14, 17:54
Anyone with a thought as to a recommended place and the cost?

Thanks in advance.

Frannie
03-03-14, 20:42
Anyone with a thought as to a recommended place and the cost?

Thanks in advance.Not specifically, but there are a number of stores in Puerto Plata that I have seen when driving around that claim to offer this service. Cost and so on may depend on the type of phone, but I don't think you would pay more than 1000 pesos.

If you are an AT&T customer in good standing, they should give you a code to unlock the phone for purposes of overseas travel for no charge. If you want a phone to give to a chica, then it might be better to buy unlocked in the US, for example the unlocked Nokia 520 or 521 from Amazon.

General Eligibility Requirements for Unlocking All AT&T Mobile Devices.

AT&T will unlock an AT&T Mobile Device under the following circumstances:

The person requesting the unlock must be one of the following:

A current AT&T customer.

A former AT&T customer who can provide the phone number or account number for the account.

The AT&T Mobile Device was designed for use on AT&T's network.

The AT&T Mobile Device has been paid for in full.

The AT&T Mobile Device has not been reported lost or stolen.

https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/

Tempoecorto
03-07-14, 03:20
Not specifically, but there are a number of stores in Puerto Plata that I have seen when driving around that claim to offer this service. Cost and so on may depend on the type of phone, but I don't think you would pay more than 1000 pesos.]Thanks for the info. I got one HTC unlocked here by buying the code on the internet : cost me about $10. But I am also looking at a Samsung galaxy S and I can't find anything for less than $30. Kind of stupid when the phone is about $100 but perhaps the brand has its suckers as usual. No Samsung for me in future just like I avoid the Apple syndrome like the plague.

Frannie
03-08-14, 00:26
Thanks for the info. I got one HTC unlocked here by buying the code on the internet : cost me about $10. But I am also looking at a Samsung galaxy S and I can't find anything for less than $30. Kind of stupid when the phone is about $100 but perhaps the brand has its suckers as usual. No Samsung for me in future just like I avoid the Apple syndrome like the plague.If anyone is interested, you can now get the unlocked Nokia 520 Windows phone NEW for only $100 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Lumia-Unlocked-Windows-Phone/dp/B00CKUBLFQ

This is a pretty good deal and includes the following features (I have one, so I know).

Pros:

1. Removable battery. Replacement battery is about $5. (Can't do this with I-Phone.)

2. Removable memory card. You can add up to 64GB of memory. (Can't do this with I-Phone.)

3. Can be used as a wifi hotspot for other devices like tablet or notebook computer if you have data service. (Can't do this with I-Phone.)

4. Can be used as a wi-fi receiving device any place there is wi-fi.

5. Includes free Nokia maps and navigation. The maps can be downloaded onto the phone and used without a phone connection. This includes maps of the DR. Obviously you need an active GPS signal to use the turn-by-turn directions.

6. Excellent call quality.

7. Easy cut-and-paste transfer of any mp3 music or photos from PC in either direction. (Can't do this with I-Phone.)

7. Can use with ATT or StraightTalk in the US, works with Orange and Claro in the DR.

8. Charges with any mini USB connector. (Can't do this with I-Phone.)

9. Has free music from Nokia (with data or wi-fi connection) so your chica can download her favorite hits or YouTube videos for free any place there is wi-fi. You can also download playlists from Nokia and play them on the phone when offline.

10. If you plug in headphones to use as an antenna, the phone will also act as a digital FM radio tuner.

Cons:

1. Only has back facing camera, so you can use it with Skype, but it is a bit awkward as you have to choose whether you see the person you are calling, or they see you, but not both at the same time. However the 5 megapixel camera is OK and comes with some neat Nokia software for improving pictures, for example one where the camera takes 5 pictures in sequence, and you can choose the best one, or another in which you can take selfies and then improve your appearance, for example making your teeth whiter, eyes bigger, etc. (You know your chica will like this one!)

2. Does not have flash for camera.

3. Battery life is a bit short when using it as a wi-fi router or with wi-fi receiver turned on.

4. Some people say the Windows store does not have enough apps, but I have found it has enough not to be an issue. It has Skype, Whatsapp, Instagram, YouTube, FayBoo, Adobe Acrobat, Tune-In Radio, Amazon, Wikipedia, Cheap-O-Air, etc. It does not have Amazon Cloud Player, Google Translate (but Bing translate is a fine alternative). It does not have my credit union or my brokerage, but you can use the mobile internet sites, so not really a problem. Apart from that, the Windows phone operating system is fine and fun to use.

So why spend $70 for a used phone and $30 to unlock it when you can get a very decent unlocked phone new for the same money and get the free maps and music?

You can also get the same phone from AT&T locked as a Go-Phone for about $70 and AT&T will give you the unlock code for free after 3 months.

I know this sounds like a commercial, but how often do you find a product that really works well and seems to offer better value than the competition.

Jooks
03-08-14, 01:19
If anyone is interested, you can now get the unlocked Nokia 520 Windows phone NEW for only $100 on Amazon.

3. Can be used as a wifi hotspot for other devices like tablet or notebook computer if you have data service. (Can't do this with I-Phone.) Not true, at least since the iPhone 4S.

Frannie
03-08-14, 19:43
Not true, at least since the iPhone 4S.Sorry, you are correct.

Anyway the current version of the iPhone is $579 unlocked on Amazon versus $100 for the Nokia 520 unlocked.

BogieMaker
03-09-14, 08:40
With the new four lane freeway between Punta Cana and Boca Chica / SDQ does anybody have any ideal how long it now takes to drive between the two locations? When I was last in Punta Cana it was two lane roads most of the way.

I have a 2:00 PM flight out of SDQ and trying to figure out if I want to leave from Punta Cana in the morning or stay the last night in Boca Chica and not have to get up early.

Thanks

Mr Enternational
03-09-14, 09:37
With the new four lane freeway between Punta Cana and Boca Chica / SDQ does anybody have any ideal how long it now takes to drive between the two locations? When I was last in Punta Cana it was two lane roads most of the way.

I have a 2:00 PM flight out of SDQ and trying to figure out if I want to leave from Punta Cana in the morning or stay the last night in Boca Chica and not have to get up early.1 hour 40 minutes. The four lane freeway does not go the entire way unless they have finished building it since the last time I went through there. You had to get off and go through La Romana before you could get back on where that big pretty bridge is. If your flight is at 2, I would leave Punta Cana at 10. That will give you just enough time to turn the car in (I always stop and get gas at the station in Boca Chica that has the Burger King. Shell or Exxon (Esso) I think it is.), get checked in for your flight, and make it through security and immigration.

Sidney
03-19-14, 20:41
I was promptly banned for 6 months! I think by Why Nobody Likes Him and OK'd by Jimmy DR! BTW, My Doc feels that I have won my about with Prostate Cancer!

D Cups
03-24-14, 19:15
Hi Guys, I've been browsing this website and noticed many of the girls have inaccurate weight and cup sizes. They usually list themselves as much heavier and not as busty as their photos depict. Anyways I'm curious as to your success rates with meeting these girls. Thanks.

OldKool
03-25-14, 13:20
The only information that is important is the picture most girls have translation problem s o Go for it.

QUOTE=D Cups; 1546615]Hi Guys, I've been browsing this website and noticed many of the girls have inaccurate weight and cup sizes. They usually list themselves as much heavier and not as busty as their photos depict. Anyways I'm curious as to your success rates with meeting these girls. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Mr Enternational
03-25-14, 15:21
The only information that is important is the picture most girls have translation problem s o Go for it.Dude there is no translation problem. The site is in Spanish for them. Most are just stupid/uneducated. If you know Spanish then you can tell the difference right off when talking/chatting to them or even just reading what they wrote in their profile.

No need to fear D-Cups. I have one with me right now. She didn't know she was going to stay last night so didn't bring daytime clothes. We are on the way to her house now. She is going to cook for me.

Mr Enternational
03-27-14, 20:53
I have a new chick that I met in Santiago. She is a law school student. Yesterday my allergies started acting up. We were at her house so she gave me one of her Lortadine tablets. It worked damn good. I told her that I wanted to buy some today since allergy season is about to hit in the southern USA where I'm from.

We went to one pharmacy in downtown Santiago and the lady said 40 pesos each. She told her to just give us one (at the same time she told me to hush up). When we left she said she could get it much cheaper at the university. When we got there she took 200 pesos from me. She ran in but shortly returned. She said they were out of them. We went to another branch close by and this time she only took 100 pesos inside with her. She came back with a box of 100 and 65 pesos change.

The point is if you need prescription/over the counter drugs then and if you have any friends that are university students, then get them to buy them for you at school for much cheaper than a regular pharmacy.

Tempoecorto
03-28-14, 00:53
Can anyone comment on the road that takes one from San Francisco de Macoris to the North Coast (at Gasper Hernandez) via Tenares? Google map is showing some strange routing on checking directions and I was wondering if the road condition is comparable to the one at Luperon that brings you to Sosua across the mountain from Santiago.

Thanks in advance!

Frannie
03-31-14, 08:32
This is a perennial topic regarding cell phone usage, roaming etc, but one factor is that wi-fi is rapidly improving in the DR with the advent of 4g services, and if you have a smartphone or tablet or notebook computer with Skype you may not need a phone at all for a short visit.

Here's how it works. You can buy calling time in $10 units from Skype with which you can call the US or Dominican cell phones or fixed phones. The rate in minutes varies depending on the type of phone you are calling to, but the rates are discounted and very reasonable.

Now you can call numbers both in the US and the DR. You can also get a free North American number from Skype at which Dominicans can call you. It is an international call for them, but cost the same as a local call, and of course you can call them back after less than a minute of charges.

In the DR wi-fi is available free in many strategic locations such as airports, Caribe Tours bus stations, hotels and rental apartments, and restaurants and bars, so this may be all the average monger needs on a short visit.

Obviously there are some gaps in the service and you cannot send or receive calls while in a taxi or rental car, but it is certainly a useful and economical alternative to getting a DR cell phone or signing up for overseas roaming charges with a US provider. I was able to use it from my balcony to call a chica cell phone in the kitchen to send me a glass of water, so the potential is infinite.

In the past Skype calling was pretty unreliable, but with improving wi-fi and wireless in the DR it is becoming mor useful now.

Frannie
03-31-14, 11:47
This is a perennial topic regarding cell phone usage, roaming etc, but one factor is that wi-fi is rapidly improving in the DR with the advent of 4g services, and if you have a smartphone or tablet or notebook computer with Skype you may not need a phone at all for a short visit.

Here's how it works. You can buy calling time in $10 units from Skype with which you can call the US or Dominican cell phones or fixed phones. The rate in minutes varies depending on the type of phone you are calling to, but the rates are discounted and very reasonable.

Now you can call numbers both in the US and the DR. You can also get a free North American number from Skype at which Dominicans can call you. It is an international call for them, but cost the same as a local call, and of course you can call them back after less than a minute of charges.

In the DR wi-fi is available free in many strategic locations such as airports, Caribe Tours bus stations, hotels and rental apartments, and restaurants and bars, so this may be all the average monger needs on a short visit.

Obviously there are some gaps in the service and you cannot send or receive calls while in a taxi or rental car, but it is certainly a useful and economical alternative to getting a DR cell phone or signing up for overseas roaming charges with a US provider. I was able to use it from my balcony to call a chica cell phone in the kitchen to send me a glass of water, so the potential is infinite.

In the past Skype calling was pretty unreliable, but with improving wi-fi and wireless in the DR it is becoming mor useful now.A question I have been asked by PM is how you can be sure your smart phone Skype app is connecting via (free) wifi and not by (expensive) roaming cellular data. What is the default for Skype? For example if you are with AT&T, your phone will automatically connect to Claro, so how can you be sure you are not racking up expensive roaming data.

Here is the solution.

To turn off cellular data and cellular call roaming altogether, put your phone into "airplane" mode on your flight. This shuts off wifi, bluetooth, cellular calls and data, all of it. Now when you arrive, keep your phone in airplane mode, but activate wi-fi via your control panel, but do not activate cellular data. Now you are good to go.

Another way of making sure Skype is using wi-fi data is to check that you are connected to a wi-fi data source. Skype has no default data connection, but wi-fi and cellular data cannot both be turned on at the same time, so if you have a wi-fi connection, you cannot have a cellular data connection at the same time.

Frannie
03-31-14, 13:17
Can anyone comment on the road that takes one from San Francisco de Macoris to the North Coast (at Gasper Hernandez) via Tenares? Google map is showing some strange routing on checking directions and I was wondering if the road condition is comparable to the one at Luperon that brings you to Sosua across the mountain from Santiago.

Thanks in advance!I don't know for sure. My downloaded Nokia map of the DR shows it as a road described as a "careterra" all the way, so it should be good enough. The route directions just show the one road to Tenares and a right turn at Tenares. However the road does change its NAME several times along the way, and I wonder if that is the problem. Like in North Florida FL Hwy 228 also calls itself 5th Street, and also calls itself the Korean War Memorial Hwy. (You'd think the Korean War was best forgotten, but then I am not a road namer.)

The problem with maps is that we don't know which company has the most up-to-date maps. Nokia provided a 48. 2 megabyte update to its DR map in September 2013.

http://here.com/directions/drive/Gaspar_Hern%C3%A1ndez, _Dominican_Republic%5B19. 62653-70. 2789%5D / San_Francisco_de_Macor%C3%ADs, _Dominican_Republic%5B19. 29783-70. 25314%5D/ata79afc8d3ff753307872c30fb9b449ea / map=19. 4621791-70. 1781267, 11, 0.0, normal. Day

BrasilSoccer0
03-31-14, 14:39
MI,

That's what I call an insider tip. And your are blessed to find a girl who likes you and cares enough about you to share that "insider tip"

What is the cost on our hobby pills and can a student get thoes too? (doubt it. LOL)

Also, is (Somatropin and steroids) easy and economical to get in the DR.

GREAT report.


I have a new chick that I met in Santiago. She is a law school student. Yesterday my allergies started acting up. We were at her house so she gave me one of her Lortadine tablets. It worked damn good. I told her that I wanted to buy some today since allergy season is about to hit in the southern USA where I'm from.

We went to one pharmacy in downtown Santiago and the lady said 40 pesos each. She told her to just give us one (at the same time she told me to hush up). When we left she said she could get it much cheaper at the university. When we got there she took 200 pesos from me. She ran in but shortly returned. She said they were out of them. We went to another branch close by and this time she only took 100 pesos inside with her. She came back with a box of 100 and 65 pesos change.

The point is if you need prescription / over the counter drugs then and if you have any friends that are university students, then get them to buy them for you at school for much cheaper than a regular pharmacy.

Grandnash84
04-01-14, 16:10
Can I get some good recomendations on some nice hotels in Juan dolio that I can bring a chica to? I don't want to spend over $100 / night but I do want a nice hotel. No need for kitchen but close if not on the beach. Thanks in advance

Cagep1967
04-01-14, 18:45
Can I get some good recomendations on some nice hotels in Juan dolio that I can bring a chica to? I don't want to spend over $100 / night but I do want a nice hotel. No need for kitchen but close if not on the beach. Thanks in advanceI've never stayed here but it looks good.

http://caribeparaisojuandolio.com/

They have a great Italian restaurant in the back under a gazebo. Food is fantastic. Hotel is right on the beach and prices seem real good. I've been meaning to stay there just have never booked in advance and they seem to get full fast.

Cagep1967
04-01-14, 18:53
My Nephew is coming to town. 19 years old. I will be taking him out, so Friday and Saturday night it's on. GBP to start, Casino afterwards, off to a cabana with whatever I find on the way. Saturday, wash, rinse, repeat.

I'll buy a beer for anyone that mentions ISG to me in GBP. I'll be the big gringo, I'll post what I'll be wearing on Friday morning.

Later.

Cagep1967
04-01-14, 19:03
I've never stayed here but it looks good.

http://caribeparaisojuandolio.com/

They have a great Italian restaurant in the back under a gazebo. Food is fantastic. Hotel is right on the beach and prices seem real good. I've been meaning to stay there just have never booked in advance and they seem to get full fast.They've updated their website since I last visited. Complete with room pictures including sexy chica's. I wish I could book a room with one of them included. Rates are real good.

Grandnash84
04-02-14, 06:23
They've updated their website since I last visited. Complete with room pictures including sexy chica's. I wish I could book a room with one of them included. Rates are real good.Thanks, its seems like a good place with a great price

Irakab
04-02-14, 15:20
Does anybody know the name of the small hotel next to the big yellow house in BC, DR? If so thanks.

King Rob
04-03-14, 03:09
Landing in the SDQ tomorrow just in time for lunch. Will be there for 4 days and have plenty of time for mongering. Haven't had a chance to read up on all of the reports and general info yet on the DR, but will do so in the next 24 hrs.

Any DR newbie tips would be appreciated. Reports soon to follow.

KR

Frannie
04-03-14, 03:43
Landing in the SDQ tomorrow just in time for lunch. Will be there for 4 days and have plenty of time for mongering. Haven't had a chance to read up on all of the reports and general info yet on the DR, but will do so in the next 24 hrs.

Any DR newbie tips would be appreciated. Reports soon to follow.

KRYour valuables will be safe, so bring the family jewels, Dominicans are very safety conscious drivers due to having the highest death rate in the world. You can trust gas station attendants.

Seriously, talk to the girls first, don't rush, and try to find one you have some mutual attraction with if you want really good sex.

LetMeInPlease
04-03-14, 05:09
So I saw this place called Vikings Exotic Resort and a full video of everything that happens on it via a Playboy.

I googled the phone number, which, conspicuously is also on Charli's Angel's website. It kind of sent off a red flag.

I called, spoke to a girl an she seemed legit. She even told me two of the girls from the Playboy video are at the resort now.

I asked about the phone number being on both websites, she said. Same concept, different company.

I'm still wondering they both have the same phone numbers. Anyone been there recently. Is this legit? Would really appreciate some info.

Thanks in advance!

Yanqui69
04-06-14, 16:21
So I saw this place called Vikings Exotic Resort and a full video of everything that happens on it via a Playboy.

I googled the phone number, which, conspicuously is also on Charli's Angel's website. It kind of sent off a red flag.

I called, spoke to a girl an she seemed legit. She even told me two of the girls from the Playboy video are at the resort now.

I asked about the phone number being on both websites, she said. Same concept, different company.

I'm still wondering they both have the same phone numbers. Anyone been there recently. Is this legit? Would really appreciate some info.

Thanks in advance!Will say in advance I have never been to either one, mostly due to the prices they charge.

Depends on your wishes / requirements. Such venues are highly overpriced. They may offer European or "higher quality" Dominicanas, but you pay (a lot) for it.

Unless you are set on finding a European in the DR, or are convinced there is status in overpaying, you can find better value.

BlackBeard's (BB) in Puerto Plata / Costambar is a good establishment which will cost you thousands less.

All the girls may not be model-quality, but most are attractive and provide good service. ("Model-quality" types often deliver much less than expected).

If you speak Spanish and know the ropes of street / bar action, that of course is the least expensive. But buyer beware.

If this is your first DR experience, most will recommend BB as more "bang for the buck" (pun intended).

Iguana Six
04-06-14, 20:03
Do not send any money, she made a living before she met you, and she will make a living once you are gone.

In case you send money, be prepared that it will never be enough. And add amout x for the monthy / weekly emergencias / emergenciesThis is very profound. It should be someone's tag line. May I borrow it?

This and."How much money should I send? One dollar is one too many, and a million dollars is not nearly enough."

Mr Enternational
04-06-14, 21:13
This is very profound. It should be someone's tag line. May I borrow it?

This and."How much money should I send? One dollar is one too many, and a million dollars is not nearly enough."Man recently I have been getting on chicks left and right about the begging. I tell them up front now. If you want money, you are with the wrong person. One chick said she was sick and needed money. She sent pictures of her in the hospital and all. This is one that I probably like the most of them all. I told her no. She said, but if your lady is sick then you should take care of her. I told her that today she is sick, tomorrow she will be hungry; it will always be something. I had to explain to her that just because we are foreigners does not mean we are rich. We have our own bills and our own families (mom, dad, kids, aunts, uncles, cousins) that need help to. How would I look sending money to a chick overseas when I know I have a cousin who I grew up with that is struggling to put food on the table? I asked her that now that she knows where I stand on that is she finished with me and she said no.

Another chick has two kids and the father is Dominican but lives in Spain. He has a kid there now but no job. She said he was providing better when he was still in DR. I asked how much he sends and she said 70 euro / month but it's not enough. I said how much is enough. She said 12000 pesos. Then she got mad and asked why I'm asking all of this if I'm not going to help her. I said shit for general knowledge. Then she claimed I was playing with her and said that she wants a man who is going to give her what she doesn't have. I jumped in her shit and told her I was not that man. I am never going to give money to a woman. I told her that I know a chick in Santiago who has 3 jobs and she claims she can't get 1? She said if I keep that attitude I won't be able to find anyone. I blew up then and asked her how she could say that when her mindset is that she has to find someone to take care of her instead of finding a job so that she can take care of herself. She is a damn adult. I know over 100 countries and don't know any other culture where women think they have to find a man to pay their bills instead of finding a damn job. It's ridiculous. I told her that my ex girlfriend is a single Dominicana and has two young kids that she takes care of. She told me that if a Dominican woman ever asks you for money then RUN! It's just pure sorriness.

Mr Enternational
04-06-14, 21:35
Is it something wrong with my Spanish or something wrong with their memory? Often times when I am writing with a Dominicana (it does not happen with people from other Spanish speaking countries) they make a statement and I follow up on their statement and it totally escapes them as to what the hell I am talking about. Case in point:

Jackie: Papi yo le doy gracias a Dios por todo por lo bueno why LO MALO en mi vida.

Me: Que MALO?

Jackie: Por que tu ahora solo dice que malo?

I had to copy what she said and say look where you just wrote THE BAD. I am asking WHAT BAD? Then she was like oh, okay. There are moments in life that are not always perfect...

Frannie
04-06-14, 22:33
Is it something wrong with my Spanish or something wrong with their memory? Often times when I am writing with a Dominicana (it does not happen with people from other Spanish speaking countries) they make a statement and I follow up on their statement and it totally escapes them as to what the hell I am talking about. Case in point:

Jackie: Papi yo le doy gracias a Dios por todo por lo bueno why LO MALO en mi vida.

Me: Que MALO?

Jackie: Por que tu ahora solo dice que malo?

I had to copy what she said and say look where you just wrote THE BAD. I am asking WHAT BAD? Then she was like oh, okay. There are moments in life that are not always perfect.Yes, you are quite right in thinking that you are missing the point because of your limited knowledge of Spanish.

"Que malo" does not mean "what bad?" It means "what a villain!" or "what a bastard!" "how lousy" or something like that.

You might ask "Cual cosas malas tienes en tu vida?".

Also when she says this "lo malo and lo bueno" is a kind of stock phrase she is using to express that she accepts totally whatever God make happen in her life, meaning something like "for better or for worse" or "both the good and the evil".

This is a bit similar to the Muslim concept of Allah In sha' Allah, follows quote from Wikipedia:


In sha'Allah is said when speaking about plans and events expected to occur in the future. The phrase also acknowledges submission to God, with the speaker putting him or herself into God's hands. Muslims believe that everything is maktub [lit.: written] and so whatever it is one wishes to do, will only occur if it is within God's plan. This does not take away from the concept of free will. One's use of insha'Allah indicates not one's desire to succeed in an endeavor, but rather that the endeavor one embarks on will be within God's will, which might be interpreted as that which is best for humanity, the Earth, and all of Allah's creation.


So she is saying that she is submitting to the will of God, and you are saying "What a bummer!"

You are welcome.

Frannie
04-06-14, 23:12
Another chick has two kids and the father is Dominican but lives in Spain. He has a kid there now but no job. She said he was providing better when he was still in DR. I asked how much he sends and she said 70 euro / month but it's not enough. I said how much is enough. She said 12000 pesos. Then she got mad and asked why I'm asking all of this if I'm not going to help her. I said shit for general knowledge. Then she claimed I was playing with her and said that she wants a man who is going to give her what she doesn't have. I jumped in her shit and told her I was not that man. I am never going to give money to a woman. I told her that I know a chick in Santiago who has 3 jobs and she claims she can't get 1? She said if I keep that attitude I won't be able to find anyone. I blew up then and asked her how she could say that when her mindset is that she has to find someone to take care of her instead of finding a job so that she can take care of herself. She is a damn adult. I know over 100 countries and don't know any other culture where women think they have to find a man to pay their bills instead of finding a damn job. It's ridiculous. I told her that my ex girlfriend is a single Dominicana and has two young kids that she takes care of. She told me that if a Dominican woman ever asks you for money then RUN! It's just pure sorriness.But one has to ask how the one with three jobs takes care of her children, because that can be a full time job on its own. Presumably she has someone else like a mother who takes care of them while she is at the three jobs. I know a woman here is the US who has 3 kids and works up to about 70 hours a week with overtime, but she could not do this without her mother taking care of the kids including a baby of 6 months of age (obviously very demanding of phyical care, feeding, etc, and two others who have to be dressed for school and fed, etc, supervised, entertained, etc.

We don't know what extended family resources your 2-kid chica can rely on. If she has no marketable skills it very unlikely that she could earn enough to maintain an independent household, plus provide adequately for the kids, buy school supplies, medicines, plus pay for child care when she is at work.

Even in the US poor working women in a similar situation cannot do this without the support of a variety of programs including tax payer supported schooling, free transportation to school, free school meals for the indigent, CHIP, SNAP, Medicaid, EIC, and so on. Are you not aware of all these supports that single mothers get in in the US above the money they work for? These things are not available in the DR.

Obviously you are under no obligation to pay to support her or her children, but the solution is probably for you to either find a woman who is financially independent in the first place or stick strictly to pay for play, because the Dominican women whom you meet online will inevitably be those who don't have paid professions, but those who are looking for relationships that provide them with some kind of financial support for themselves and their children.

OldKool
04-06-14, 23:44
E was at one time a pimp, His opinion of women IMHO is quite warped. He has a lack of compassion for poor women. All male female relationships have a strong economic component. Women have always needed a man who provides while they took care of the children. When this model breaks down shit goes real bad fast. If a chica can get a guy to sponsor her she made out. Barring the Easter bunny and Santa that shit is not happening to often. O ya the 160 dollars a month they make will feed you for month.


But one has to ask how the one with three jobs takes care of her children, because that can be a full time job on its own. Presumably she has someone else like a mother who takes care of them while she is at the three jobs. I know a woman here is the US who has 3 kids and works up to about 70 hours a week with overtime, but she could not do this without her mother taking care of the kids including a baby of 6 months of age (obviously very demanding of phyical care, feeding, etc, and two others who have to be dressed for school and fed, etc, supervised, entertained, etc.

We don't know what extended family resources your 2-kid chica can rely on. If she has no marketable skills it very unlikely that she could earn enough to maintain an independent household, plus provide adequately for the kids, buy school supplies, medicines, plus pay for child care when she is at work.

Even in the US poor working women in a similar situation cannot do this without the support of a variety of programs including tax payer supported schooling, free transportation to school, free school meals for the indigent, CHIP, SNAP, Medicaid, EIC, and so on. Are you not aware of all these supports that single mothers get in in the US above the money they work for? These things are not available in the DR.

Obviously you are under no obligation to pay to support her or her children, but the solution is probably for you to either find a woman who is financially independent in the first place or stick strictly to pay for play, because the Dominican women whom you meet online will inevitably be those who don't have paid professions, but those who are looking for relationships that provide them with some kind of financial support for themselves and their children.

Tempoecorto
04-07-14, 01:14
"Que malo" does not mean "what bad?" It means "what a villain!" or "what a bastard!" "how lousy" or something like that.

You might ask "Cual cosas malas tienes en tu vida?".Well seeing the question mark after "que malo" should make the woman think a bit but many would not notice it or know the difference say, with an exclamation mark. Which would lead her to "que malo (que eres)". In general, I agree,"cual cosas malas" rather than "que malo" may obviate such confusion.

Tempoecorto
04-07-14, 01:31
Even in the US poor working women in a similar situation cannot do this without the support of a variety of programs including tax payer supported schooling, free transportation to school, free school meals for the indigent, CHIP, SNAP, Medicaid, EIC, and so on. Are you not aware of all these supports that single mothers get in in the US above the money they work for? These things are not available in the DR.When I see the gramophone record of asking DR women to help themselves, I shake my head in disbelief. I find some males here have real short memories. Some went to college thanks to Govt programs and quotas in colleges and not because they scored 1600 on their SAT. Those that could not or did not make college, saw the good life including travel abroad thanks to another popular Government program called the Armed services. When someone who grew personally and professionally thanks to Government handouts becomes a Reaganomics professor, there is something amiss. If nothing else, compassion I thought is a good Christian value, even though I am not a Christian.

Frannie
04-07-14, 03:04
I had to explain to her that just because we are foreigners does not mean we are rich. We have our own bills and our own families (mom, dad, kids, aunts, uncles, cousins) that need help to. How would I look sending money to a chick overseas when I know I have a cousin who I grew up with that is struggling to put food on the table?So how much a month are you sending to your cousin? And why do you not post in a public forum suggesting that your cousin gets a job, or two jobs, or food stamps if struggling to eat?

Basically you are endorsing the idea of a person who has some spare money sending it to another who does not, but you are just saying that you prefer to send it to your cousin who you grew up with than to this chica who presumably is giving you sex. Well, it is your money and it is your decision, and you can do what you want with your money, but I am sure you are not posting on some other board to complain about your cousin asking you for money for food, so why complain about Dominican women doing it?

Surely Dominican women are just as likely, or more likely, to have food security issues as your cousin whom I assume must be in the US and able to collect US benefits such as SNAP, EIC, CHIP, AFDC, unemployment benefit, Social Security disability benefit, Medicaid, free school meals, and so on.

Mr Enternational
04-07-14, 03:45
Actually, what I am endorsing is the idea that some chick in a foreign country is far down my priority list of the direction my money is going to go. And I can't understand why I wouldn't be way down their list of people to enlist help from when they have family and friends whom they have known way longer than me. And as far as my family is concerned, they would never ask for help (and if they did it would not be as brazenly as these chicas do) , but if I know they need it and I have it, then it is theirs. That is the reason I gave my cousin $200 when we unexpectedly ran into each other the other day. Now if I was to do that with some random chica what is going to happen next week? As I said earlier, it will be some other problem that they will ask their personal walking atm to help out with. It's not like the solicitation will stop after the first donation. That is why I nip that shit in the bud before it can even get started.

What other country do you know of that chicks beg like they do in DR? I was down in Santiago Chile the other day and had not had a chance to change money. My girl bought me a bus pass with $8 worth of credit on it. When I finally changed money I tried to give her the equivalent of $10 to repay her. She refused to accept it. Now if that shit would have happened in DR, first of all I would have been walking because the woman would not have come out of her pocket with anything. And if she did and I went to pay her back, then she would have asked for extra.

Frannie
04-07-14, 13:15
Actually, what I am endorsing is the idea that some chick in a foreign country is far down my priority list of the direction my money is going to go. And I can't understand why I wouldn't be way down their list of people to enlist help from when they have family and friends whom they have known way longer than me. And as far as my family is concerned, they would never ask for help (and if they did it would not be as brazenly as these chicas do) , but if I know they need it and I have it, then it is theirs. That is the reason I gave my cousin $200 when we unexpectedly ran into each other the other day. Now if I was to do that with some random chica what is going to happen next week? As I said earlier, it will be some other problem that they will ask their personal walking atm to help out with. It's not like the solicitation will stop after the first donation. That is why I nip that shit in the bud before it can even get started.

What other country do you know of that chicks beg like they do in DR? I was down in Santiago Chile the other day and had not had a chance to change money. My girl bought me a bus pass with $8 worth of credit on it. When I finally changed money I tried to give her the equivalent of $10 to repay her. She refused to accept it. Now if that shit would have happened in DR, first of all I would have been walking because the woman would not have come out of her pocket with anything. And if she did and I went to pay her back, then she would have asked for extra.Not so long ago you said you had a girlfriend in the DR who was financially independent and didn't ask you for anything.

Mr Enternational
04-07-14, 14:08
Not so long ago you said you had a girlfriend in the DR who was financially independent and didn't ask you for anything.That would be the ex girlfriend I mentioned who said to get away as fast as you can if a Dominicana asks you for money. I recently broke up with her because I get tired of hearing "I feel so alone." It's not just her; I hear that from many women. Still friends though and she still wants us to be together. Just yesterday: No te imaginas las ganas q tengo de estar contigo.

Frannie
04-07-14, 19:43
That would be the ex girlfriend I mentioned who said to get away as fast as you can if a Dominicana asks you for money. I recently broke up with her because I get tired of hearing "I feel so alone." It's not just her; I hear that from many women. Still friends though and she still wants us to be together. Just yesterday: No te imaginas las ganas q tengo de estar contigo.Yeah, it is really strange how a lot of these Dominican women who are on international lonely hearts Web sites are either lonely, horny, or looking for money or a visa to leave the island. Who'd have thunk it? Great job in using so much of your invaluable time researching and identifying this transnational social problem!

Mr Enternational
04-07-14, 21:17
Yeah, it is really strange how a lot of these Dominican women who are on international lonely hearts Web sites are either lonely, horny, or looking for money or a visa to leave the island. Who'd have thunk it? Great job in using so much of your invaluable time researching and identifying this transnational social problem!La vida es asi señor!

Parkinsons
04-08-14, 17:58
What other country do you know of that chicks beg like they do in DR? I was down in Santiago Chile the other day and had not had a chance to change money. My girl bought me a bus pass with $8 worth of credit on it. When I finally changed money I tried to give her the equivalent of $10 to repay her. She refused to accept it. Now if that shit would have happened in DR, first of all I would have been walking because the woman would not have come out of her pocket with anything. And if she did and I went to pay her back, then she would have asked for extra.I do not disagree with your assessment, the sense of entitlement Dominican women have is astonishing. Could be 100% flawed mentality, or 100% economic necessity (poverty). Or more likely 80/20 mix.

However, I will say that to my knowledge and experience, there is also no other countries where a foreigner who does not speak the language and is on a short vacation can have as much access to the local women.

These two factors go hand in hand. It's not important to find out whether the chicken or the egg came first.

I'll take it as what it is. As long as my middle-aged, no-game ass can get on the playing field I handle the curve balls coming my way. Versus another country where I may not get on the playing field at all. Again, I'm speaking as a foreigner who has little command of the local language and is short on time. Mr E you have more game than me.

BrasilSoccer0
04-08-14, 23:55
Gents, I am enjoying this back and forth here especially between Mr. E and Frannie.

I kinda understand Mr. E's frustration with the constant money requests and the playing of the sad violin. Etc.

But maybe Mr. E is partly to blame for choosing the company of single mothers. Maybe it is not like that with college students or college age females who have no kids. Idk, never been to the DR. But planing on it.

Or maybe where in the DR you are has something to do with it. I know in Havana girls are like that but you go to the provinces and they are so happy and content with your kindness and simple gifts and some money.

Also, it could be that Dominicanas are more exposed to materialistic American / western popular culture that they subconsciously dream about it and when an American comes she sees: Better restaurants, brand name items, better transportation. Etc.

Mr. E, I have to tell you though, if you are sick of them looking at you as their salvation you have to think they are also sick of us looking at them as our hit it and quit it!

God, I hope it's not all as bad as mr. E makes it to be!

OldKool
04-09-14, 05:28
The average DR female that finds a job makes 160 dollars a month for working 6 days a week. Finding these terrible jobs is a great challenge. Most have is least one child by age 18 many as early as 15. DR men can fuck 14 and 15 yeAR OLD girls with impunity. From their perspective we are all very wealthy. We have the ability to solve all their financial problems. I know I am getting the pussy because I have money which is not a problem, for me.


Gents, I am enjoying this back and forth here especially between Mr. E and Frannie.

I kinda understand Mr. E's frustration with the constant money requests and the playing of the sad violin. Etc.

But maybe Mr. E is partly to blame for choosing the company of single mothers. Maybe it is not like that with college students or college age females who have no kids. Idk, never been to the DR. But planing on it.

Or maybe where in the DR you are has something to do with it. I know in Havana girls are like that but you go to the provinces and they are so happy and content with your kindness and simple gifts and some money.

Also, it could be that Dominicanas are more exposed to materialistic American / western popular culture that they subconsciously dream about it and when an American comes she sees: Better restaurants, brand name items, better transportation. Etc.

Mr. E, I have to tell you though, if you are sick of them looking at you as their salvation you have to think they are also sick of us looking at them as our hit it and quit it!

God, I hope it's not all as bad as mr. E makes it to be!

GrownMan1
04-09-14, 05:58
God, I hope it's not all as bad as mr. E makes it to be!I hate to tell you my man but it is just as bad as Mr E and other have warning. The upside is as Parkinson said there a lot of available young, Spanish and African descent, puta ready P4P. Mr. E has a big problem. He fucks with chicks all round the world. He's a chameleon. (Who goes to the DR with 0 hotel plan and is willing to sleep at the chica cheap ass room with her Aunt in the bed for the night.) What Balls! He almost fucked the Aunt. But even he can't hide from the DR downsides. When the average America gets over there we are in hog heaven. Because all we know is America and the DR. P4P ain't so great in the US. That's why we are in the DR. Some of us only know Sosua and are good with that. When I am on DC the average chica 25 is looking for a man 30-70. This is not Kansas. They are fishing for the Golden White Horse that can take them to economical freedom. These young 18, 19, 20 etc years think they have hit the jackpot when they get the interest of the land of the free- home of Obama American. Hell almost any nationality will due accept Haitian. Most of us are only Trojan horses. The ones that are not get played. There are a few successful stories but they are far in between. I complain too, but if I have take my $100 dollars in pennies- call me Ray Charles.

Showdown
04-09-14, 20:35
Mr. E is right about Dominican women incessantly asking for money. It never ends whether you have a "good girl (ie. Not a hooker)" or a "bad girl". Let me explain and others can learn from me as I have dealt with both types (still am).

As some of you may recall from my post last year (I think in Sosua thread) I had a girl I pulled out of the streets of Sosua. Spent alot of money on her and her four kids. Paid her rent, food, light bill everything. Would go every two weeks and see her and bring her 200-300 dollars worth of stuff from Wal-Mart (the things everyone in life needs). You would think she would be happy as pie.

This girl would still ask for money and minutes on her phone atleast 5 times a week. You would think that if you were sending someone money that they would atleast spend 100 pesos of it and top up there phone rather than asking me to use eztop to put minutes on their phone. I was going to Western Union so much the cashiers knew my name! It was ridiculous. It was unlike anything I had ever seen. Thai women were not that bad (and I lived in Thailand). This girl and all her friends were pre programmed to constantly demand money and things. I finally got fed up with her the day she demanded I give her 1k to fix her car. Between the constant money demands, her bad attitude, and the horrible place she lived (Boca Chica) I blocked her number and whatsapp and moved on. To this day every few months she will send me a whatsapp from a different phone number. I just delete and move on.

Fast forward to today. I have a gf in Santo Domingo. I like having a gf but I want my P4P also. Nevertheless I got her a house in Santo Domingo (rented for 7k pesos) after seeing and visiting her in that wretched apartment she was living in. She had no electricity 90% of the time and bathing with a bowl and all that stuff. Where the house is now it always has electricity and I bought her the water tank for the top of the house so she always has water. Got her a new fridge (the one she had before-and this is funny-it had no hinges on it and each time she opened it she had to use tape to close it back). Got her cable. Send her money for food. She is set. She's a "good girl". Met her through Tagged, she goes to church alot, sexy as hell and is very cautious (initially) about asking for money. Never had a problem out of her.

Now the problem is she knows if she ask for money she will get it. For example she recently asked for money for food. Ok I sent her 4k pesos. That night when I talked to her via Skype she pointed out the day before she had bought new paintings. Paintings? You don't have food and you bought paintings?

I had told her she was responsible for paying the internet and the electricity. I did this to give her a sense of responsibility. She has never payed either because she never has the money despite the fact that every time I visit there is something new (and irrelevant) she has purchased. And what has she bought me in the year I have been with her? 2 shirts. Now her family, who I have grown to dislike, realizes that the rich gringo is around so they are always asking her to ask me to buy things for them. In addition when I leave they all show up to use or eat or drink whatever I have brought her from the States. Now that she has cable they all show up to watch tv. Her dad, who I bought a phone for, will not travel the 10 minutes by motorbike to say hello to me when I am in town yet when I leave he shows up the next day to watch cable.

My girl works in a hair salon and I know for example she had about 10 clients this past weekend. Yet she called me today asking for more money for food.

My point is Mr. E is right. Whether you get a good or bad Dominican girl she (and her family) will constantly fleece you and beg for money. It will never ever stop. I am now trying to get out of this situation with the girl I am with now because I am tired of sending money let alone the airplane tickets and taxis in addition to the money I spend when I am there. No matter what morally I am on the hook for a year to pay the rent because I moved her out of her hell hole into a house. Still trying to figure out how to let this girl go because she does love me a great deal.

Moral of the story. Be like Mr E. Have sex with them. And then leave them. No money. If you do it the request will never end. And you will get nothing for it.

Rjsss212
04-09-14, 21:46
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552823]Backing up Mr. E / QUOTE]Hey, I need new tires for my Porsche. I don't use it in the winter but spring is here and its time. I could let the front go but the back 2 are shot. Whadda ya dink?

BrasilSoccer0
04-09-14, 22:46
At first I'm thinking, dominican women are horrible and desperate working girls. Just based on the recent postings.

But when some of you are bedding women with 4 kids, you are inviting trouble! What do you honestly expect from an uneducated single mother who have been fucked over by men? Then you rent them a house or pay their bills! Are they your girlfriends, friends with benefits, working girls? You got to define the rules for them.

Or are some of you getting caught up in the sex and lost your control?

These aren't rhetorical / judgmental questions, I'm really trying to understand why the poor choices! Is your physical appearance a factor? I'm sure not all Dominicanas have kids by 18, at least not college students!

I've made poor decisions but avoid repeating them. One time I really thought this girl (Cuba) was the one and on my next trip, I got her around $100 worth of clothes. And you know what were the first words out of her mouth while she was checking the gifts?". And where is the cold weather jacket I asked you for?" No kidding, that's what she said to me and forgot to say thank you. You know what I did? Told her to leave and not come back. Kept calling and calling and had her mom even call me and plead with me.

I hope there are positive experiences there. And BTW, I have no interests in p4p! I'm looking for semi and nonpros

Mr Enternational
04-09-14, 23:39
Moral of the story. Be like Mr E. Have sex with them. And then leave them. No money. If you do it the request will never end. And you will get nothing for it.LOL. I don't do them like that. As a matter of fact, for me this thing about chicks asking for money just started with a few new chicks. Most of the chicks I have, I have known for years and they have never asked me for a dime. I think I just ran into a bad batch recently. But like I said, you have to nip it in the bud from the beginning. The first time they ask you have to stop them right there and explain to them that you are not rich and you have your own bills and family to take care of and you are not going to be giving them money. Like Showdown has shown you, once you go down that road ain't no turning back, so why even start?

One of my girls down in Lima, Peru who I have been with for five years needed $200 for school last month. I have never given her a dime besides $10 or so for taxi to get to work and lunch the days she left me. We are supposed to go on a trip together to Mancora, Peru at the end of July. I told her she had to make a decision. I will give her the money for school, but we will not be taking the trip. She decided that school is way more important so I gave her the money for school. She sent the receipt where she paid and everything. For Easter she wants to go visit her sisters in Trujillo, Peru. She asked me for $70 for that a couple of days ago. She even said I can pay myself with my card on the bus company's website. All I had for her was one word, NO. She said okay baby I understand.

You have to train them from the beginning. HOW you train them is the key. You can train them that you will be there with money and other goods whenever they ask or you can train them not to ask you for anything. 20 years ago I had a shirt that said Don't Ask Me 4 SHIT. I wish I still had it. Got a picture wearing it back from Freaknik 94 though.

GrownMan1
04-10-14, 00:34
I had a girl I pulled out of the streets of Sosua.

Spent alot of money on her and her four kids.

Paid her rent, food, light bill everything.

Would go every two weeks and see her and bring her 200-300 dollars worth of stuff from Wal-Mart (the things everyone in life needs).

This girl would still ask for money and minutes on her phone atleast 5 times a week.

I was going to Western Union so much the cashiers knew my name!

I finally got fed up with her the day she demanded I give her 1k to fix her car. Between the constant money demands, her bad attitude, and the horrible place she lived (Boca Chica) I blocked her number and whatsapp and moved on. To this day every few months she will send me a whatsapp from a different phone number. I just delete and move on.

Fast forward to today. I have a gf in Santo Domingo.

I got her a house in Santo Domingo (rented for 7k pesos) after seeing and visiting her in that wretched apartment she was living in.

I bought her the water tank for the top of the house so she always has water.

Got her a new fridge

Got her cable.

Send her money for food.

Now the problem is she knows if she ask for money she will get it.

For example she recently asked for money for food. Ok I sent her 4k pesos.

That night when I talked to her via Skype she pointed out the day before she had bought new paintings. Paintings? You don't have food and you bought paintings?

I had told her she was responsible for paying the internet and the electricity. I did this to give her a sense of responsibility. She has never payed either because she never has the money despite the fact that every time I visit there is something new (and irrelevant) she has purchased.

And what has she bought me in the year I have been with her? 2 shirts.

Now her family, who I have grown to dislike, realizes that the rich gringo is around so they are always asking her to ask me to buy things for them.

In addition when I leave they all show up to use or eat or drink whatever I have brought her from the States. Now that she has cable they all show up to watch tv.

Her dad, who I bought a phone for, will not travel the 10 minutes by motorbike to say hello to me when I am in town yet when I leave he shows up the next day to watch cable.

My girl works in a hair salon and I know for example she had about 10 clients this past weekend. Yet she called me today asking for more money for food.

I am now trying to get out of this situation with the girl I am with now because I am tired of sending money let alone the airplane tickets and taxis in addition to the money I spend when I am there.

No matter what morally I am on the hook for a year to pay the rent because I moved her out of her hell hole into a house. Still trying to figure out how to let this girl go because she does love me a great deal.I AM trying to be a smart ass because listen to yourself. You are a Mark! You are sweet! Sweet. Like bear meat. You have a sincere heart of gold and the morality of a true Gentleman. Stop being the pussy you fuck. They are going to use you until the last peso is given. You need to go out and buy JT MONEY's cd "Ho Problems" Listen, study, and learn the lyrics my brother. I remember your first story and I was dumbfounded. I was giving you cyber dap when you had enough and kicked the last chica to the curve. To hear you are back in the frying pan befuddles me! You are a walking positive reinforcer of negative actions. Dude there is more love in this forum from strangers than in a chica who doesn't respect you. Where is her love? In the bedroom some where between the 50 pumps? It ain't outside in she actions. It ain't with her family. Know one wants to be around someone the don't respect in less they want to use them. Does she have a gun to both your heads. Stop apply morality to the non morale. You should have a three month rule. After 3 months of the same chica; end the relationship for your own good until you admit Your problem. Unlike Mr E who was pointing out a problem before being victimized, you are telling us your problem poorly rationalizing your reason for being the victim. YOU don't OWE HER SHIT! You have done far more than anyone in her leeching family does. If you don't believe that see what happen if you leave. That if you have some fucking balls ma! If she can afford to live there tomorrow then back you the old shithole or maybe to her family. You will have taught her a valuable lesson in life about respect. That's better than you relearning the same mistakes you have made just a year ago. Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting a different out come. I don't want you to like me. I want you to want to kick my ass! (no guns please). After you kick my ass deal with the people that have been really disrespecting you. Started with the mirror. PS I love you

GrownMan1
04-10-14, 00:48
One of my girls down in Lima, Peru who I have been with for five years needed $200 for school last month. I have never given her a dime besides $10 or so for taxi to get to work and lunch the days she left me. We are supposed to go on a trip together to Mancora, Peru at the end of July. I told her she had to make a decision. I will give her the money for school, but we will not be taking the trip. She decided that school is way more important so I gave her the money for school. She sent the receipt where she paid and everything. For Easter she wants to go visit her sisters in Trujillo, Peru. She asked me for $70 for that a couple of days ago. She even said I can pay myself with my card on the bus company's website. All I had for her was one word, NO. She said okay baby I understand.

You have to train them from the beginning. HOW you train them is the key. You can train them that you will be there with money and other goods whenever they ask or you can train them not to ask you for anything. 20 years ago I had a shirt that said Don't Ask Me 4 SHIT. I wish I still had it. Got a picture wearing it back from Freaknik 94 though.I wish I had that in Spanish

Mfins
04-10-14, 01:48
If your a middle age gringo, in the DR one of the best cards you have to play is that you have money.

The dilemma is this. IF you tell a girl no, I am not giving you money or act cheap in negotiations with a girl than you have lost the best card you had in your deck.

However, if you give money than you are labeled a sucker and will be treated as an ATM.

In addition most of us are on vacation down there for a very short amount of time. So getting to know these girls, and them getting to know you is really not an option.

In any case, the choice of whether to give money or not and how much and how often is probably the biggest issue a gringo has playing the game we play. In any country.

Showdown
04-10-14, 01:59
I AM trying to be a smart ass because listen to yourself. You are a Mark! You are sweet! Sweet. Like bear meat. You have a sincere heart of gold and the morality of a true Gentleman. Stop being the pussy you fuck. They are going to use you until the last peso is given. You need to go out and buy JT MONEY's cd "Ho Problems" Listen, study, and learn the lyrics my brother. I remember your first story and I was dumbfounded. I was giving you cyber dap when you had enough and kicked the last chica to the curve. To hear you are back in the frying pan befuddles me! You are a walking positive reinforcer of negative actions. Dude there is more love in this forum from strangers than in a chica who doesn't respect you. Where is her love? In the bedroom some where between the 50 pumps? It ain't outside in she actions. It ain't with her family. Know one wants to be around someone the don't respect in less they want to use them. Does she have a gun to both your heads. Stop apply morality to the non morale. You should have a three month rule. After 3 months of the same chica; end the relationship for your own good until you admit Your problem. Unlike Mr E who was pointing out a problem before being victimized, you are telling us your problem poorly rationalizing your reason for being the victim. YOU don't OWE HER SHIT! You have done far more than anyone in her leeching family does. If you don't believe that see what happen if you leave. That if you have some fucking balls ma! If she can afford to live there tomorrow then back you the old shithole or maybe to her family. You will have taught her a valuable lesson in life about respect. That's better than you relearning the same mistakes you have made just a year ago. Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting a different out come. I don't want you to like me. I want you to want to kick my ass! (no guns please). After you kick my ass deal with the people that have been really disrespecting you. Started with the mirror. PS I love youFirst I was entertained by your post. True and accurate it is.

This girl I am dealing with is NOTHING like the Boca Chica chick. True this new girl is being well taken care of by me but never did I say she was a bad person. Nevertheless I know ultimately they are using me. Example-sent $50 today. Didn't get a thank you. She didn't even mention it until I asked her is she picked it up.

As men we all have our learning curves with women. Any man on this board who says he has NEVER been taken by a women is a liar. We all have. Guess my learning curve is a little larger than others. Its ok though. I'll learn one way or the other.

Now how to get myself out of this situation LOL.

Showdown

Mr Enternational
04-10-14, 04:10
If your a middle age gringo, in the DR one of the best cards you have to play is that you have money.

The dilemma is this. IF you tell a girl no, I am not giving you money or act cheap in negotiations with a girl than you have lost the best card you had in your deck.

However, if you give money than you are labeled a sucker and will be treated as an ATM.

In addition most of us are on vacation down there for a very short amount of time. So getting to know these girls, and them getting to know you is really not an option.

In any case, the choice of whether to give money or not and how much and how often is probably the biggest issue a gringo has playing the game we play. In any country.I don't think you realize we are talking two different things here since you said the word negotiate. Of course you are supposed to give a hooker money for services rendered at the time of services. However if the girl is not someone you met on the strip in Boca Chica or Sosua or inside of GBP; in other words, she is not a professed hooker, there is no need to line her pockets or try to bring her lifestyle to the level that yours is back home. You don't do the shit back home, so why go to another country and do it.

GrownMan1
04-10-14, 04:28
First I was entertained by your post. True and accurate it is.

This girl I am dealing with is NOTHING like the Boca Chica chick. True this new girl is being well taken care of by me but never did I say she was a bad person. Nevertheless I know ultimately they are using me. Example-sent $50 today. Didn't get a thank you. She didn't even mention it until I asked her is she picked it up.

As men we all have our learning curves with women. Any man on this board who says he has NEVER been taken by a women is a liar. We all have. Guess my learning curve is a little larger than others. Its ok though. I'll learn one way or the other.

Now how to get myself out of this situation LOL.

ShowdownShowdown I know you really like this chica and I agree anyone that has Never been taken by a women is a liar. Or gay. You know the answer to your question because you have been down this road before. Same road different car. STOP. STOP. Cut off all forms of communication. Besides your conscience. Everything else is easy. Do you think she is coming to where ever you are to make you talk to her? Granted she is not a bad person. But she doesn't even say thank you when you take your time out of your life to send Her money. What balls she now has. (yours) She doesn't even tell you she has the money. STOP STOP STOP! Her family doesn't respect you because she doesn't respect you. They react to the tone She sets. Even if you were soft on them she could make them respect you by respecting you! Its obvious she doesn't love you, but you do love her. Only when a man becomes sick and tired of being played that he remove himself. Are you tired yet. Really! You send her money Today - really! Its your money. Your situation. But Are you tired? I don't think so. I have seen a married man (no kids) of 8 years leave this wife to move next door to a woman with 3 children mover quicker. When asked why did you leave your wife so fast? He replied "I was tired of her respectful shit". You have a high tolerance for bullshit. But you know how to skin that cat.

GrownMan1
04-10-14, 04:44
If your a middle age gringo, in the DR one of the best cards you have to play is that you have money.

The dilemma is this. IF you tell a girl no, I am not giving you money or act cheap in negotiations with a girl than you have lost the best card you had in your deck.

However, if you give money than you are labeled a sucker and will be treated as an ATM.

In addition most of us are on vacation down there for a very short amount of time. So getting to know these girls, and them getting to know you is really not an option.

In any case, the choice of whether to give money or not and how much and how often is probably the biggest issue a gringo has playing the game we play. In any country.I agree money is the best card we have to play. We have to use the jokers to our advantage even in the short time we have. Now that we understand the game we are playing; use it against our opponents when they don't want to play fair. I don't mind spending money on a chica, but I hate being played.

Naked Gunz
04-10-14, 11:48
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1552823]Thai women were not that bad (and I lived in Thailand). Your right, my ex-Thai fiancé was ditched in the street by her ex-husband after he brought her back from the states. She had grown too smart and mouthy. She did not have a dime when we met, was sweet as honey, and always stayed home and skype with me everyday. She got caught up in the Thai games (which was bound to happen) and is a bar mamasan now. I got rid of her when she started lying about her job. The lies bothered me more than anything. Her ex finally died and left insurance money and she paid back most I ever gave her and thanked me for helping when she was down. I got off lucky.

I grew up in SE Wash D. C, and W. Oakland, so when I went to Sosua, I saw the same women hardened by a rough life as I've seen in the both those cities. I like my women sweet and somewhat obedient. I would never be with the Jamaican, Dominican women I have f*cked down there. Come to Africa if you want love from a sista.

Sorry that you don't respect yourself. To me respect is worth as much as money. Her dad is telling you he thinks your a puto by not even coming to have a beer with the man that's taking care if his daughter and gave him a phone. Just disappear and move on. You don't know owe anyone anything.move on cold turkey. Just because we sometime p4p, does not mean you can't be treated like a man. Your paying for love and buying a woman, and your not there to keep an eye on her ass and keep her in check. I don't kid myself that a twenty-something will really be in love with me. Its ok to spoil them a little when your there, but I expect no emails or calls when I'm not. Shit another one turns legal f*ck age everyday, get a new one.

Berthold
04-10-14, 20:15
First I was entertained by your post. True and accurate it is.

This girl I am dealing with is NOTHING like the Boca Chica chick. True this new girl is being well taken care of by me but never did I say she was a bad person. Nevertheless I know ultimately they are using me. Example-sent $50 today. Didn't get a thank you. She didn't even mention it until I asked her is she picked it up.

As men we all have our learning curves with women. Any man on this board who says he has NEVER been taken by a women is a liar. We all have. Guess my learning curve is a little larger than others. Its ok though. I'll learn one way or the other.

Now how to get myself out of this situation LOL.

ShowdownShowdown, you will get out of this situation really easy, just stop sending money, and his girl will disappear automatically, as she is only after your money.

Showdown
04-11-14, 00:06
Showdown, you will get out of this situation really easy, just stop sending money, and his girl will disappear automatically, as she is only after your money.My goodness. Sent $100 yesterday for food. Then she called today and said she needed $1500 pesos to go see her mom tomorrow (in a taxi about an hour or so away). I asked her why doesn't she use the $100 I sent. She said all of it was gone. Yet I never saw her spend $100 dollars in food in one setting before.

This girl is very sincere and honest but I think I have spoiled her. Time to run.

Showdown.

GrownMan1
04-11-14, 00:28
My goodness. Sent $100 yesterday for food. Then she called today and said she needed $1500 pesos to go see her mom tomorrow (in a taxi about an hour or so away). I asked her why doesn't she use the $100 I sent. She said all of it was gone. Yet I never saw her spend $100 dollars in food in one setting before.

This girl is very sincere and honest but I think I have spoiled her. Time to run.

Showdown.You sent her a 100 for food and then her calls back for more money to go see her Mother. She tell you she spent all the more you sent her in one day. You call her very "sincere and honest". Dude I think you are playing games with us here. You can't be that rich and naïve at the same time. If not. Can I please have her number. I need a play to crash next week. I promise you I won't touch her. Scouts honor.

Mr Enternational
04-11-14, 02:03
Yeah. He has to be shiitin us. Every time some lazy ass or poor and unfortunate or whatever you want to call them chick asks for money I think to myself: Hmmm. To give her X$ I have to spend X more hours working. I guess my money is not as easy to come by as most of you guys because I will be damn if I spend more time than I have to busting my ass at work just to hand the money over to some third world broad. I don't care what her or her family is in need of. Hell everybody on the planet is in need of something. Why put some random broad's need over that of your friends' and family's? That is true pimpin in raw form right there.

You better get your ass off your shoulders and tell those broads you don't have it like that instead of trying to play Mr. Bigshot Foreigner. All you are doing is perpetuating the myth, stereotype, fantasy, fairy tale that all you have to do is find a foreign guy with a good heart and he will solve all of your and your family's problems because he has money that never ends.

Naked Gunz
04-11-14, 03:20
This girl is very sincere and honest but I think I have spoiled her. Time to run.

Showdown.Duh! Ya think? Ok, now you have gotten all this great advice, now take it! Next report will be on how you banged a chica hard, gave her a facial and walked away.

Tempoecorto
04-11-14, 15:56
All you are doing is perpetuating the myth, stereotype, fantasy, fairy tale that all you have to do is find a foreign guy with a good heart and he will solve all of your and your family's problems because he has money that never ends.Even though Enternational and I do not see eye to eye on matters of payment, I agree with him in this case. On the other hand, I salute Showdown to 'fess up this openly. I do not know of many on the forum to have the balls to do that.

Berthold
04-11-14, 19:35
My goodness. Sent $100 yesterday for food. Then she called today and said she needed $1500 pesos to go see her mom tomorrow (in a taxi about an hour or so away). I asked her why doesn't she use the $100 I sent. She said all of it was gone. Yet I never saw her spend $100 dollars in food in one setting before.

This girl is very sincere and honest but I think I have spoiled her. Time to run.

Showdown.Showdown, one more piece of advice for you. In case you are going to run from this girl, be strong, because once she will realize that her mealticket is gone she will put on a show which could last for several days or weeks. She will call you like crazy, text you, start crying, telling you all the sweet things, mi amor te amo, mi vida te quiero, mi cielo me haces falta... Do not fall for this bullshit, some of these girls could be award winning actresses.

Tempoecorto
04-11-14, 21:02
I think Gogo and Enternational used the data plan as offered by T-mobile now. My f. G phone did not work. I could see the bars (but no local carrier's name. Like claro or orange) but that is all, I never could connect. I took my phone to a Claro place the day after and they fiddled with it (including manually looking for the carrier) but came up with nothing. In the end, I bought a separated sim card with a data plan from claro for 600 pesos+100 pesos for the chip. 1 GB of data which I had no use for (validity one month for my week long trip). It was such a waste of time.

Once back in the US, I called T-mobile but other than telling me that my "roaming" has to be on, I did not hear anything specific that would allow me to understand why the phone / data plan of tmobile did not pan out for me.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

GrownMan1
04-11-14, 22:51
Showdown, one more piece of advice for you. In case you are going to run from this girl, be strong, because once she will realize that her mealticket is gone she will put on a show which could last for several days or weeks. She will call you like crazy, text you, start crying, telling you all the sweet things, mi amor te amo, mi vida te quiero, mi cielo me haces falta. Do not fall for this bullshit, some of these girls could be award winning actresses.Aint that the fucking TRUTH!

Wrx2005
04-12-14, 01:06
Fast forward to today. I have a gf in Santo Domingo. I like having a gf but I want my P4P also.She aint your GF, she is just a chick who is with you for benefits.


Nevertheless I got her a house in Santo Domingo (rented for 7k pesos) after seeing and visiting her in that wretched apartment she was living in. Where the house is now it always has electricity and I bought her the water tank for the top of the house so she always has water. Got her a new fridge (the one she had before-and this is funny-it had no hinges on it and each time she opened it she had to use tape to close it back). Got her cable. Send her money for food. She is set.And just what did this woman do to earn all of this? You got the shit assbackwards. Ya supposed to earn a residence, a water tank, a fridge, cable and food. This woman didn't do anything to earn these things. Your standards are very low when it comes to bestowing unearned benefits to unappreciative and non reciprocal people.


She's a "good girl". Met her through Tagged, she goes to church alot, sexy as hell and is very cautious (initially) about asking for money. Never had a problem out of her.Met her through tagged, big deal. She gets no points for that. Goes to church a lot? Seriously? She gets no points for that. Many hypocrites go to church, especially because they are so fucked up they know they need religion in their lives to make up for the dirt they are doing. She's sexy as hell? She gets no points for that. Initially very cautious about asking for money? That was just to make an impression with you. She is an actress. Well she aint cautious anymore. Now she is a full fledged opportunist. Never had a problem out of her? That was then, this is now. Now you have a big problem with her. Don't you realize you are just rationalizing and making excuses for this woman with statements like that?


Now the problem is she knows if she ask for money she will get it. For example she recently asked for money for food. Ok I sent her 4k pesos. That night when I talked to her via Skype she pointed out the day before she had bought new paintings. Paintings? You don't have food and you bought paintings?

I had told her she was responsible for paying the internet and the electricity. I did this to give her a sense of responsibility. She has never payed either because she never has the money despite the fact that every time I visit there is something new (and irrelevant) she has purchased.She is playing the long game with you and very well. And got several convenient smoke screens in place to lull your ass to sleep. She works in a salon. Goes to church. So you use that to feel like you got a good girl that you didn't find hustling pussy somewhere. Then she has her poor circumstances for you to see and act on so you willingly choose to be a Cap' n Sav a Ho without her having to convince you to assume that role. She is irresponsible with money. Fails to pay the expenses she claims the money is for. She may even be lying about some of those expenses. Face it dude. She is a liar, and can't be trusted.


And what has she bought me in the year I have been with her? 2 shirts.And in her mind why should she buy you anything? You are an over flowing resource who has yet to be fully exploited to the max. You have shown an addiction to her , where having to buy you shit is totally un necessary. Especially since you have demonstrated and reinforced that benefits only flow one way. From you to her.


Now her family, who I have grown to dislike, realizes that the rich gringo is around so they are always asking her to ask me to buy things for them. In addition when I leave they all show up to use or eat or drink whatever I have brought her from the States. Now that she has cable they all show up to watch tv. Her dad, who I bought a phone for, will not travel the 10 minutes by motorbike to say hello to me when I am in town yet when I leave he shows up the next day to watch cable.Her and her family have that dreaded disease called YOUGOTITLIKETHAT-ITIS. Because you have shown that you got it like that, they think it is nothing for you to do what you are doing. Think about it! You are in another country and you are paying rent in a place you don't even live in. Buying appliances, food and god knows what. They aint worried about your feelings. They don't have any clue if being appreciated is important to you. As soon as a need or want is expressed, there you are "handling" the request promptly. You can't ask someone to appreciate you. Either they do or they don't. You can't shame anyone either. Either they naturally appreciate you or they don't. If the chick feigns appreciation and remorse and starts begging for you not to leave, claiming to do better, she aint nothing more than a sexy as hell, church going, salon working, money grubbing bullshit artist.


My girl works in a hair salon and I know for example she had about 10 clients this past weekend. Yet she called me today asking for more money for food.Whens the last time you saw the skeleton of a dead dominicana holding her iphone laying around in the gutter because they were refused money? I haven't seen it, and I doubt she will rot and die if you stopped sending money.


I am now trying to get out of this situation with the girl I am with now because I am tired of sending money let alone the airplane tickets and taxis in addition to the money I spend when I am there. No matter what morally I am on the hook for a year to pay the rent because I moved her out of her hell hole into a house. Still trying to figure out how to let this girl go because she does love me a great deal.No you arent. You aint trying. You are like a person who has lent money to someone, and the person hasnt paid back the money. That person asks for another loan, and you think if you don't give more money or benefits you will lose all of what you have invested in getting back what you think you'll lose.

But even shrewd investers have to know when to stop the bleeding, cut their losses and bail. You have already lost your self respect. Which should be extremely valuable. But it is at the lowest priority in your life. You are only cutting the surface in recognizing how deep your issues are in regards to this woman. And that line of being morally obligated to pay the rent, that is some straight up BS right there. Man you need to play your game. If you lost your job, or had no means of getting any money, what in the world do you think that chick will be forced to do about that apartment? Pay the rent or get the fuck up out of there.

Like I said, play your game. Lie your fucking ass off right in her face the same way she is doing you. She tells you to your face she mismanaged your money, and you tolerate that shit. If you do not have a lease, then walk away. Tell her I can't afford to pay the rent. Remember, many here have reported, that once "their girl" was convinced the money is gone, or the well is dry, you won't have to leave them, they will leave your ass. But for you, to regain some semblance of dignity, it would be much more powerful and self fulfilling if you leave her and that situation. Trust she'll be back on social media in a flash looking for another dude to milk who is blinded by the same things you were. What are you afraid of? Her confronting you? Her rejecting you? Her being disappointed because you choose to stop being used? Think you are coming off looking weak acting like you cant afford to pay, knowing full well that money is no problem for you? Do you feel responsible for her if she gets put out? Addicted to her juice? What is it, really preventing you from just making a bold move?

Mr Enternational
04-12-14, 04:19
I think Gogo and Enternational used the data plan as offered by T-mobile now. My f. G phone did not work. I could see the bars (but no local carrier's name. Like claro or orange) but that is all, I never could connect. I took my phone to a Claro place the day after and they fiddled with it (including manually looking for the carrier) but came up with nothing. In the end, I bought a separated sim card with a data plan from claro for 600 pesos+100 pesos for the chip. 1 GB of data which I had no use for (validity one month for my week long trip). It was such a waste of time.

Once back in the US, I called T-mobile but other than telling me that my "roaming" has to be on, I did not hear anything specific that would allow me to understand why the phone / data plan of tmobile did not pan out for me.

Any thoughts?

ThanksI don't know man. First you have to have the simple choice plan. Then just turn your phone off before you land and then turn it back on when you land. You should receive a text message like the one in the picture. Then you just start using it.

Frannie
04-12-14, 11:28
Showdown, one more piece of advice for you. In case you are going to run from this girl, be strong, because once she will realize that her mealticket is gone she will put on a show which could last for several days or weeks. She will call you like crazy, text you, start crying, telling you all the sweet things, mi amor te amo, mi vida te quiero, mi cielo me haces falta. Do not fall for this bullshit, some of these girls could be award winning actresses.You have to be certain that you want to end it, then it may be hard if you care for her and her kids. If you decide to make the break, it may be best to change your phone numbers and e-mail and block any way she has to contact.

You. Tough situation.

TeamHorny
04-12-14, 13:04
She aint your GF, she is just a chick who is with you for benefits.

And just what did this woman do to earn all of this? You got the shit assbackwards. Ya supposed to earn a residence, a water tank, a fridge, cable and food. This woman didn't do anything to earn these things. Your standards are very low when it comes to bestowing unearned benefits to unappreciative and non reciprocal people.

Met her through tagged, big deal. She gets no points for that. Goes to church a lot? Seriously? She gets no points for that. Many hypocrites go to church, especially because they are so fucked up they know they need religion in their lives to make up for the dirt they are doing. She's sexy as hell? She gets no points for that. Initially very cautious about asking for money? That was just to make an impression with you. She is an actress. Well she aint cautious anymore. Now she is a full fledged opportunist. Never had a problem out of her? That was then, this is now. Now you have a big problem with her. Don't you realize you are just rationalizing and making excuses for this woman with statements like that?

She is playing the long game with you and very well. And got several convenient smoke screens in place to lull your ass to sleep. She works in a salon. Goes to church. So you use that to feel like you got a good girl that you didn't find hustling pussy somewhere. Then she has her poor circumstances for you to see and act on so you willingly choose to be a Cap' and Sav a Ho without her having to convince you to assume that role. She is irresponsible with money. Fails to pay the expenses she claims the money is for. She may even be lying about some of those expenses. Face it dude. She is a liar, and can't be trusted.

And in her mind why should she buy you anything? You are an over flowing resource who has yet to be fully exploited to the max. You have shown an addiction to her, where having to buy you shit is totally un necessary. Especially since you have demonstrated and reinforced that benefits only flow one way. From you to her.

Her and her family have that dreaded disease called YOUGOTITLIKETHAT-ITIS. Because you have shown that you got it like that, they think it is nothing for you to do what you are doing. Think about it! You are in another country and you are paying rent in a place you don't even live in. Buying appliances, food and god knows what. They aint worried about your feelings. They don't have any clue if being appreciated is important to you. As soon as a need or want is expressed, there you are "handling" the request promptly. You can't ask someone to appreciate you. Either they do or they don't. You can't shame anyone either. Either they naturally appreciate you or they don't. If the chick feigns appreciation and remorse and starts begging for you not to leave, claiming to do better, she aint nothing more than a sexy as hell, church going, salon working, money grubbing bullshit artist.

Whens the last time you saw the skeleton of a dead dominicana holding her iphone laying around in the gutter because they were refused money? I haven't seen it, and I doubt she will rot and die if you stopped sending money.

No you arent. You aint trying. You are like a person who has lent money to someone, and the person hasnt paid back the money. That person asks for another loan, and you think if you don't give more money or benefits you will lose all of what you have invested in getting back what you think you'll lose.

But even shrewd investers have to know when to stop the bleeding, cut their losses and bail. You have already lost your self respect. Which should be extremely valuable. But it is at the lowest priority in your life. You are only cutting the surface in recognizing how deep your issues are in regards to this woman. And that line of being morally obligated to pay the rent, that is some straight up BS right there. Man you need to play your game. If you lost your job, or had no means of getting any money, what in the world do you think that chick will be forced to do about that apartment? Pay the rent or get the fuck up out of there.

Like I said, play your game. Lie your fucking ass off right in her face the same way she is doing you. She tells you to your face she mismanaged your money, and you tolerate that shit. If you do not have a lease, then walk away. Tell her I can't afford to pay the rent. Remember, many here have reported, that once "their girl" was convinced the money is gone, or the well is dry, you won't have to leave them, they will leave your ass. But for you, to regain some semblance of dignity, it would be much more powerful and self fulfilling if you leave her and that situation. Trust she'll be back on social media in a flash looking for another dude to milk who is blinded by the same things you were. What are you afraid of? Her confronting you? Her rejecting you? Her being disappointed because you choose to stop being used? Think you are coming off looking weak acting like you can't afford to pay, knowing full well that money is no problem for you? Do you feel responsible for her if she gets put out? Addicted to her juice? What is it, really preventing you from just making a bold move?WRX my brother you are 10000000000 percent on point. God bless you

Qualude
04-12-14, 13:43
WRX my brother you are 10000000000 percent on point. God bless youWRX I also have to chime in and say that was a truly excellent post. Very well done!

Tempoecorto
04-12-14, 20:02
I don't know man. First you have to have the simple choice plan. Then just turn your phone off before you land and then turn it back on when you land. You should receive a text message like the one in the picture. Then you just start using it.Thanks very much.

I am really confounded. The t-mobile guys here have no clue, no one told me about this message from 156. I have the simple choice plan since Oct / Nov of 2013 but I never got this message from T-mobile (and I did turn off the phone and turned it back on, as the usual routine of rebooting when something does not work). My son just went to the DR with his classmates and teachers (managed by some social service organization) and I wanted him to be able to use the phone for texting. I told him to try it out but also gave him the claro chip just in case.

Thanks again!

Wrx2005
04-12-14, 23:29
WRX my brother you are 10000000000 percent on point. God bless you
WRX I also have to chime in and say that was a truly excellent post. Very well done!Thanks for acknowledging. But I just hope we all inspire our mongering brother (and others in the same mode) to rise above situations like this.

SavePros321
04-13-14, 00:27
Brother Showdown, if you have not seen this sermon by Cuba Dave on "Big Papi" vs. "Pocket Change", please stop whatever you are doing and do so NOW! He his specifically talking about guys meeting chicks in Sosua (I know you met your chica online), but the same principles apply. There is nothing he is saying here that does not touch on your current situation:

Cuba Dave: "I get hundreds of emails from guys asking that same question, and it usually starts out with: "Dave, my girl's different."

Cubadave: "Big Papi" vs. "Pocket Change"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP5yu0552E

Wrx2005
04-13-14, 02:02
First I was entertained by your post. True and accurate it is.

This girl I am dealing with is NOTHING like the Boca Chica chick. True this new girl is being well taken care of by me but never did I say she was a bad person. Nevertheless I know ultimately they are using me. Example-sent $50 today. Didn't get a thank you. She didn't even mention it until I asked her is she picked it up.

As men we all have our learning curves with women. Any man on this board who says he has NEVER been taken by a women is a liar. We all have. Guess my learning curve is a little larger than others. Its ok though. I'll learn one way or the other.

Now how to get myself out of this situation LOL.

ShowdownHttp://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1541179&viewfull=1#post1541179

SavePros321
04-13-14, 02:24
Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1541179&viewfull=1#post1541179I like your prospective bro. I think you could apply this anywhere in the world where p4p is present though; not just the DR. It had me thinking about Colombia as well: Colombians know that are some of the most beautiful people in the world, and Colombian women are not going to stop having babies with the local suavecitos because they want beautiful offspring. None of them are looking for gringos to come whisk them away to America because their emotional support system (familia) is in Colombia. They are also very proud of their country.

They would no doubt enjoy the money and gifts gringos wish to bestow upon them, which in turn gains you access to them. But once you are gone, they are back in the arms of their Colombian novios. In fact, if you are putting her up in a place and paying her rent, don't fool yourself in thinking the Colombian (or Dominican) novio isn't in there enjoying the cable tv, food, and hot water that you are providing your "novia" from the money you are sending via Western Union. She probably tells him to keep his mouth shut while she is Skyping with you, or shoos him away when you are coming to town, but don't buy that "yo vivo solo" bullshit for one minute Jack.

BrasilSoccer0
04-13-14, 03:03
Does anybody have a good experience with other than Sousa and all the drama with single mothers?

Aren't there decent college non mothers there to have as a regular or non pro?

Mr Enternational
04-13-14, 04:28
Does anybody have a good experience with other than Sousa and all the drama with single mothers? Aren't there decent college non mothers there to have as a regular or non pro?Plenty. But those stories won't get the same ratings. I have a chick in Santo Domingo with no kids who lives alone and is studying at the university. She makes 20000 pesos / month working in a pharmacy. She is working overtime tomorrow doing inventory and that will get her an extra 2000 pesos for the day. See boring. The one thing that I have learned from reading these boards is that if most of these guys do meet a girl who is a non-pro then they will still try to force money on them. So what's the use in even trying to find a non-pro for most? Just cut to the chase and get a hooker or gold digger and all the drama that comes with them.

Tempoecorto
04-13-14, 05:21
The one thing that I have learned from reading these boards is that if most of these guys do meet a girl who is a non-pro then they will still try to force money on them. So what's the use in even trying to find a non-pro for most? Just cut to the chase and get a hooker or gold digger and all the drama that comes with them.Uh-oh! Forcing money? I just spent three nights with a 22 year old. I bought several restaurant meals as in the trip report, a few gifts valued at about 1500 pesos, a couple of beers, un helado and left her 2000+2000 pesos for the two times we met. She is studying Pharmacy so we discussed Alexander Fleming and the week after she told me she was the only one who knew about it when the subject matter was discussed in class. The quality of sex was very different other than the fact that she was available whenever I was in the mood. She even gave me her backside but it did not pan out as it was painful for her. No comparison but there is always a flip side. They are looking for a long term deal. I do not know about others, but I am not into it neither do I want to lie so there is a potential fuck up that people looking for non-pros should be aware of.

OldKool
04-13-14, 05:40
Are you looking for a girl friend? Most of us here are not. So you expect women to go out with complete a stranger from another country if she is not looking for something.. Are If you are 50 years old college girls are not throwing themselves at you. I have a great time in Sosua rarely any drama. I do not try make theses girls my novia. I prefer to e honest with them.


Does anybody have a good experience with other than Sousa and all the drama with single mothers?

Aren't there decent college non mothers there to have as a regular or non pro?