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Bill
01-06-04, 01:05
DFB, Sorry, I Don't have an answer for you.


Antonelli, I don't think you are an american, because you cannot read and comprehend accurately. You should stop putting words in my mouth, because you only make yourself look foolish. I have been to High caribe and Latino's discos until 4 am, and if you could comprehend at least 4th grade level you would have read that. I was not interested in going to Puerto Plata, a 20 minute drive at night as a newbie and paying 2000-4000p for a girl. Most newbies wouldn't. I think you forgot the fact that you live there.

Estoy Negro
01-06-04, 09:23
Fellas,

Can't we agree to disagree? We are all different men with different tastes, nobody is really wrong. One thing I will say, NEVER accept the first price quoted to you, NEVER, no matter what she looks like. No matter how hard your dick is. The girls are a dime a dozen, the hardest decision shouldn't be how much do I pay, it should be which one can help me release some sperm cells and burn calories.

Cannot compare Asia to DR. Especially length of travel time & cost of travel.
DR is Double A Ball, Rio is Triple A, Asia and Europe are the Major Leagues. Read the posts for those countries, you'll see. But, it still boils down to taste, all the women are sexy in there own way, some good, and some bad. Some thieves, and some honest. You never know till you get her alone and start working that ass. Especially since I'm only working with three inches, I usually get laughter...lol

Once you go to smaller towns, away from the majority of tourists, you'll meet sweeter, non-americanized, and non-hardened women. I've been the only american at some of these towns, and found lots of GFE types, i mean the bring home to mama types. Girls that you would consider going thru the 2 to 3 year (maybe longer) immigration process for, not that I would ever. (Mongers don't LOVE...lol, well a little) But, you have to drive, know where to go and your level of spanish must be there. A newbie shouldn't do this on there first trip. Remember DR is still a third world country thats very poor, these people who now have lost more than 40% of there salary with the drop in peso, you never know. I'm black & would never walk around Kingston, Jamacia alone, there money is 1 USD = 59.9500 JMD. DR is not far away from that, one more stupid move by there government & were there.

What helps your trip is finding a honest guy who can introduced you to lots of different types of girls. (Pros, semi-pros and girls that aren't really out there, but wouldn't turn down the money ) Trust me, they know better than we will ever know. They pay less than 400 pesos for the same women that some guys pay over 1,500 for. The guy I hang with, I give him 400 pesos at High Caribe & he brings a girl home for himself. It blows my mind, but ask me for 1,500, I'll never pay that again.

Aren't we all here for each other opinions and stories, whether good or bad? True

Every time I go to DR, I see guys on the plane that look like it might be there first time (the all-inclusive guys), I talk to them, ask them what there there for, if its women, I then ask there taste in women, make suggestions and give my opinion. At least they will be a step ahead & have a better time. Never claim I'm the man.

I'll be there Jan. 9 to 13, first stop Sousa, then Puerto Plata, then Santiago, then Colonial Zone and any little town in between where the beer is cold, you know the rest.

Mas Tarde
Juan

PS Hey, Rocky Mtn Man did you go to Santiago yet to find Nilsa, she's at Illusions? Tell us about it

Ford
01-06-04, 14:50
Hey J Stem,

I know what you mean when you talk about posting "exactly" what you experience in a country and having people get mad at you for just being objective and honest. I had the same experience with my posts on the Honduran board.

BTW, you'll be DR "north coasting" starting on Jan. 25th? When are you staying 'till? I'll be coming back for the fifth time in mid-February for 10 days.

Just keep telling it the way you see it - shoot from the hip - people should take in all the opinions that they can get and then make their own observations based on their personal experience. Whether you agree with a poster or not is not the point, its still important to post. The only real jerks on this board are the traveling "lurkers" who only take from this site without giving back.
Cheers,
"missing those warm caribbean breezes"
FORD

A Toda Maquina
01-06-04, 18:02
Looks like I will be going the third week of Feb. ,I 've been reading these DR boards so figured I just gotta check this place out ! I hope to have some nice reports to share. If any of you pilgrims are going to be around the week of Feb.16 , PM me .

Tear it up !!!!!!!!!!
Later, Chango

J Stem
01-06-04, 19:31
Hey guys,

As one of the great statestmen of our time, Rodney King once said, "Can't we all just get along?" Just kidding, but the debate is nice. Ford: I'm going January 23rd, through the 30th, so I think I'll just miss you. You have PM'd me and given me countless advice and it's been great. To all the other posters like Jimmy DR, Wolverine, Ford, and the list goes on, thanks. My thing is this: I decided to go to the DR because it seems even though there are bad posts, there are way more good ones to outweigh the bad. It's definitely worth a week of my time, and I'm planning on having a blast. I'll report fully when I get back.

Best,

J Stem

Ford
01-07-04, 00:16
Antonelli wrote:
First of all, the girls you find in front of Rockys, Plutos and Mereange Club are the biggest scum in Sosua, so you wonder why thier pussy stink?

Most of the chicas that hang out ifo Rocky's are from The Cowgirl Bar. I have spent tons and tons of time in this area over my four trips, and as a favor to my novia I used to take a table and have 5 Cowgirl chicas sitting at it with me for hours. Some of these girls are sweet and pleasant company for drinks - but I gotta' agree with Antonelli most of them are REAL skanky. Not clean.

Hey Chango (my old Honduras chat partner) I think I'll be in the north coast at the same time as you!:)

I'll private message you.

Cheers,
FORD

Rocky Mtn Man
01-07-04, 00:59
A rose is a rose.

There once was a Chica from DR,
Whos pussy smelled somewhat sub-par,
Bil said pewie
Antonelli said your just a newbie,
And Rocky dove down and dove far.

No Estoy, I have not ventured out of the cold frozen north yet. I was -35 C here today and yesterday. I am going to head down sometime in March. If I hook up with Nilsa, you can be sure I will post.

Rocky

LAjazz
01-07-04, 09:25
Hey guys,

I don't post much here, but after Bil's comments I was compelled to chime in. First, I've done 10 trips and during that time probably 60-70 different girls, many more than once. I can honestly say that I've run in to fewer than 2 cases of stinky vagina and one bad yeast infection which by the way had no smell. My experience can probably be attributed to my chosing well. Word of advice, if she doesn't look clean don't do her even if you're only being asked to pay 400 pesos. Some things just aren't worth it. My personal motto is never take a girl you wouldn't consider dating back home. Unlike some guys who post I don't run a cut rate operation. With the peso currently at 40 to 1 how can you moan about paying 1,000 pesos (yes $25) for short time. Trust me you get what you pay for. It's important to note that for local girls there's not much difference between the cost of short and long time. The same girl who charges you a 1,000 or 1,500 pesos for short time will usually stay all night for the same price. Think of it as the price of admission. I'm also not adverse to paying Crystals or Bohen prices understanding that most of the time I'm not going to pay more than 2,800 pesos because I've made a number of contacts at both clubs over the last couple of years. I have paid as much has 4,000 pesos ($100 at the time) for a girl I just had to have. Unfortunately I'm one of those guys who continues to think in terms of the prices back home. This particular girl I could not have gotten in the states, in the condition she was in (dressed very well, hair clean and combed in an attractive style, smelling wonderful, and completely sober), for less than $200 for one hour. I had her all night and until one the next day. Sorry folks outside of getting a novia I viewed this as a screaming bargin. Obviously some of you don't agree with this, but stalking strange women in Carribe or Latino is something that I no longer enjoy. Yes, you can hold your cost down, but I'd guess for most guys the dissatisfaction rate is over 50%. Compare that to a rate of maybe 10% (if you lay out your terms before you agree to take her) at Crytals and Bohen and you can maybe start to understand my logic.

Couple of more points on these two clubs. With the exercise of reasonable caution I can sleep without worry about whether I'm going to get robbed. In contrast I am extremly reluctant to let a pickup from Carribe or Latino spend the night. Also the salida takes up a good chunk of the asking price so in truth you're paying for top notch talent, sin salida, maybe $15 to $20 (US) more than a far more unpredictible and probably less attractive chick out of Carribe or Latino. At Crytals it is 1,100 pesos and at Bohen 500. The prices quoted by the girls reflect this. Crytals girls opening price is usually about 500 more than that at Bohen. Granted this is steep, but there's no entrance fee in either club nor a drink minimum. You can come in feel up as many girls as you can get away with watch the strip shows and never pay a thing if you so desired. Someone has to pay for this. Granted you may not accept this, but some of us chose to foot this bill because it typically offers the widest selection and most hassle free way to go. Crystals has the added benefit of giving you the oppurtunity to ask her back the next day at a much more reasonable price. If she comes to your hotel there's no salida and typically she'll stay all day and the night for no more than 2,000 pesos.

Once again I understand completely that the POP prices are way more than some of you want to spend. For you I recommend sticking with the girls you find hanging out around your hotel or at the beach. You can also find reasonable priced talent ($1,500 to $2,000 with salida) at the Flamigo strip club. Though I'm not thrilled about pulling chicks out of either Carribe or Latino you can find a gem in both if you are patient. Personally I like to lay out my expectations up front when I've gone this route. I don't like nasty surprises back at the hotel. I want to know how much and how long. As noted above I will rarely negotiate a all night deal with a woman who a friend has not given the seal of approval. For those of you who really want to save money while enjoying quality I suggest learning a some Spanish and hooking up with one or two girls for your entire stay. This cuts down on your variety, but it will minimize your expenses since most of the time food, drink, maybe 1,000 pesos every other day will keep her happy.

I expect that someone is going to give me hell for overpaying. My response is that I go to enjoy myself and if that means paying more than you think I should then so be it. I have all the options noted above open to me. On my last trip I spent 6 nights with my favorita, 4 nights with friends from previous trips, 6 nights with POP talent, 2 days with POP talent sin salida, 6 afternoon sessions with one certain bar tender, and 2 afternoon sessions with Palace talent. Other than my favorita I did not once give any of these women less than 1,000 pesos. On the other hand the only ones who got more than than that were the POP girls and that damn bar tender who I'm kind of sweet on. To say the least I had a very good time. And I can honestly say that there was not a stinky vagina to be found and that if I would walked into any club in LA with any of these girls, there would have suddenly been a lot of envious guys.

Last, but not least. I have stayed at the Palace for all 10 of my trips. I stay there because I enjoy the camraderie, I like the rooms, and John the owner is a stand up guy. I would recommend, in particular for newbies, that anyone who doesn't have a stick stuck up his ass stay there. You will have a great time just as the vast majority of post indicate. I communicate with a lot of regular guests of the Palace and guys who stay at other hotels. I have never heard of anyone getting mugged on the street the Palace is located on or for that matter in Sosua proper.
That is not to say it isn't possible. I'm only saying that with the 100s of guys who have gone to the Palace and Sosua if some one had been mugged we all would have heard about it.

Parting shot, anyone who recommends eating at the shops on the beach, and then dinegrates the Morua Mai doesn't know jack shit about good food.

Peace out,

LA

Antonelli
01-07-04, 16:51
You're right, I am Italian American. You're a sharp guy Bil. Keep up the good advice! I hope we can have dinner someday, a sit down!

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JimmyDR
01-07-04, 22:39
Great input Jazz!!!!

Bill
01-07-04, 23:11
Jimmy,

As I have said before, "I call 'em as I see 'em." Newbies who arrive may or may not find things as I have, but at least my observations are not biased like many advertisers here. Maybe you failed to see my *disclaimers. You ASSume I stayed in a $15/night room. Your ASSumption is wrong. IMHO the palace is not worth the pricey (for the area) fee of admittance and overall far down the list for value. Why does this offend you? It just makes me wonder if your one of their investors. I hope you don't turn into a crybaby like others in this forum who can dish out insults but can't take them, then cry all the way over to the moderator, who has no time for crybabies. I just wonder why some guys can't stand an observation, opinion, thought, or finding that differs from theirs. As far as puzzy smells go, I know that DATY is risky behaviour and partake in this if the circumstances are to my satisfaction. Prostitutes picked up in Sosua from all available outlets formed my opinion that these girls need better hygiene education or medical care because 95% of their puzzy's smell was unacceptable after showering. If your actually trying to attack me, please try harder, because I don't feel a thing.

Cheers!

Bill
01-07-04, 23:22
LA,
Your post was boring so I zipped through it and found the jist of what you were saying. For the amount of money you spent for DR women and the security issues you raised about certain Sosua clubs, it reinforces the fact that Thailand is a much cheaper, better and safer monger destination. Tell me which post I recommended eating at ALL the beach shops. I hope you weren't referring to me. If you were, your putting words in my mouth, and this shows lack of intelligence on your part. And I still stand by my insistence that MORUA MAI restaurant should be avoided.

Peace

Rocky Mtn Man
01-08-04, 03:07
I have a problem with this price thing. We drop our BMW's off in the $10 a day lots at the airport and jump on the jets and fly to some second or thirld world location. We stay in a nice hotel, eat good food and then try and fuck women for next to nothing. Instead of giving them the difference between a good rate and bad rate, we complain that we are getting ripped off for getting fucked for the whole night for $50. We forget that the difference for us is nothing, and that for them it might be something they need to support their kids, parents or themselves. So we need the extra $100 we might save so we can buy a couple of CD's for our Bimmer? No wonder they hate us in the rest of the world. Get off your wallets & share the wealth. Or stay home and jack off.

Member #1553
01-08-04, 05:13
Maybe because I grew up dirt poor, I value getting things as cheaply as possible. But there is that fine line between paying next to nothing for a horrible, nasty woman and offending a decent looking worker and receiving bad service. You just have to be able to recognize that line. Maybe because I am late 20's, speak Spanish fairly well and am a little above average in looks and body , I negotiate well without alienating the women, etc and when I read posts feel that others are getting taken to the cleaners and ultimately hurting the market. Sometimes I judge others a little harshly because I resent their being able to spend enormous amounts in my eyes, something I don't have, and not even trying at times to dicker and throwing money away which is close to a sin with my upbringing. I guess as long as some one is getting something that they really want at the best price possible it is all right, but for those paying quite a bit of money in my opinion, next time a woman quotes you a price at least counter with a 20-25% approx counteroffer or offer a substantial lower price and promise a good tip if satisfied. Whether you realize it or not, I have been told by working women during daytime/night time chats, in Spanish countries, they have no respect for a man who doesn't try to be a man and they are amazed that someone pays the quoted price because in Spanish countries, dickering is a norm. Just go to open air markets and dicker for something and you end up buying something for 25 percent less than quoted price and they tell you to come back with a smile on their face. Just remember that next time a girl quotes you a price for services. If you pay the high price, and people keep paying that high price, she will eventually start asking an even higher starting price. We aren't in the US or Canada when we go to the DR and our rules go out the window. Enough said but maybe in 20 years when I have more money and looks and body are gone and young women in the US won't look my way at the bar anymore or give me the time of day, I may think differently about the whole mongering situation.

Tn-gman
01-08-04, 06:07
Hey what's up monger's. I have enjoyed this site for a year or so now but only posted a time or two. I am a country boy from Tennessee and am planning a trip to the DR around valentines day. Anyone want to hang out and do some mongering together? I am 41 white, nice looking, cleancut and in shape. I took my then girlfriend to the north coast last feb and fell in love with the place and can't wait to return. Although I had very little free time when I visited I did "sneak" out one night. Nikko from cafe cito took me to el bohem and introduced me to one of the prettiest girls I had ever met in my life. I do not remember her name but she was drop dead gorgeous. I know it may be bs but I was told at the time that this girl was very selective and didn't see very many men. I guess it means she only see's people willing to pay her price which was 100 us. I know most of you guys think that is outrageous but I only had an hour or so and wanted the best girl in the house. I am sure if this girl was working in the states her rate would have been 400.00 hour. Anyway if interested in hanging out lmk

Estoy Negro
01-08-04, 06:14
I have to agree with Wolverine, I have heard that the women laugh when a guy pays the first price they quote. They think were all rich men with nothing better to do with our money, some guys are, but I'm not. This is business for them, there's no love and if they can get more money they will, and as I stated before, DOMINICAN MEN DON'T PAY 1,000 PESOS and get the same women. Just read the message boards like the one in the DR1 newspaper & read what guys who live there say. The women especially if there party girls don't have any respect for you or your money. The photo I left is a perfect example of a party girl who will quote a high price, but will later on laugh at you if you pay it & buy jewerly instead of taking care of her children. Most guys have seen her at High Caribe. Once upon a time she used to be sweet, and a size 3, but now she's an americanized hardened woman.

Just for the sport of it started to work the price down & it worked In Santiago clubs everybody knows the women at Illusions, Passions and Casa Blanca are on a another level compared to Latino Bar. They will start you at 3,000 pesos, but can be talked down to 1,500 for an hour, and they have to pay the house most of there money. I don't feel to bad that I now will get two girls for the price of one.

Would you buy a used car without trying to get a better price?

NEVER accept the first price quoted to you, NEVER, no matter what she looks like. No matter how hard your dick is.

Later

LAjazz
01-08-04, 07:16
Don't want to give the impression I don't bargin. My problem is I suffer somewhat from exploitation guilt. I just can't give quality pussy, that I typically spend 2 hours or all night with, less than $25 US. Come on guys you're in a country where the currency has been devalued by more than 100% over a two year period. On my first trip in 2002 the peso traded at 17 to 1. Short time rates then were from 400 to 800 pesos which was about $24 to $48 US. A 1,000 pesos at the old exchange rate would be $60 bucks. Today it costs you $25. Guys the prices are cheaper than they have ever been and some of the lowest for coutries with a reasonably stable infrastructure. Do the math and you will see that in similar countries regardless of currency, prices average about $40 US.

Wolverine71, you're suffering from a couple of misconceptions that I'll just put down to youth. Some of us old guys still pick up hot chicks in the states. They aren't in their late teens or early 20s, but most of us refuse to be bothered with anything that young here at home. Mucho, mucho problemos. On the island we tend to pay more because we don't have the patience to deal with the issues that allow for price reductions. Of course having more money to spend helps. There's a famous saying that's attributed to Charlie Sheen "you pay them so that they leave in the morning". I would also add "you pay them to avoid the potential problems when they see you with another woman on your arm". Get emotions involved with these island girls and there may be hell to pay.

Peace out,

LAjazz

Fantasy
01-08-04, 18:01
Lets not attack Bil. He is entitled to his opinion, and besides, this is an information site. Do you really think anyone planning to go to the DR would take the advice of Bil anyway, when there are 1000 other posts that disagree with everything he says? It seems that everyone is out of step in the parade except Bil.

BY THE WAY BIL, HOW ARE THINGS AT BLACKBEARDS ANYWAY? It was kind of quiet when I visited last week. but I understand that they will offer helicopter service in the upcoming months, to get you back to civilization at night.

Rocky Mtn Man
01-09-04, 04:32
I am going to be in Sousa from March 14th to March 11th. Probably staying at the Palace. This is my first trip to the DR. I will be taking a digital camera with me so hopfully will have a couple of pictures and some good tales to tell.

If you are going to be there in that time slot look me up. I will be the one at the bar with a beautiful woman on each arm and a shit eating grin.

Rocky

SosuaDoctor
01-09-04, 04:46
Rocy MTN Man,

You are dead wrong if you think that these girls use this money for their kids or parents or for food. They spend it on booze, coke or clothes. Have you ever seen a Dominican who looks like he/she is starving? No you have not. That is because there is no shortage of food in that country. No one is starving. They might be poor, but they are not hungry.

As far as bargaining in general, it is the Dominican way to do things. The girls dont expect you to pay the price they quote. They HOPE you are a fool and pay their first quote but they expect you to talk them down. When Dominicans see tourists throw money around they dont think we are rich, they think we are rich FOOLS. When they see you have respect for money, they have respect for you. When a girl says "1,500 pesos", she is really saying, "I will do it for 1000 but if you are not bright enough to talk me down, that is fine with me".

On a final note, you cannot go down there with the mindset that you pay 200 dollars for prime pussy in the USA so 50 dollars is a great bargain in the DR. If the going rate for prime pussy is 25 dollars, then you pay 25 dollars. Once you get on that plane to POP, American rules go out the window. Wise-up and adapt to your new environment. 1000 pesos is a lot of money for these girls and very little for us to spend. Let's enjoy our little paradise and keep things on the level down there.

JimmyDR
01-09-04, 16:07
Well there are at least 15 mongers in the Sosua/Puerto Plata area. I keep looking at my yahoo calandar. Its cold here in NY, and do I wish I was there! Many of my yahoo members are members here as well and I will post some of their stories for them here:

From Roverman #6

Back from number six and like I said after number five, they just keep getting better and better!!!

This trip had its moments:

1. JDR's infamous cheesecake episode 2. Me getting into a near (very) fistfight with a motoconche over 10 pesos. 3. The lesbian show that never was. 4. Me getting into a near (very) fistfight with a transvestite. 5. Waking up everyday to JDR's brothers LOUD voice yelling "LUCA!!", "LUCA!!" or "ALFREDO!!", "ALFREDO!!". 6. Discovering a new massage joint to take the place of M&M.

Above all else, I now find myself moving away from the every night, nightlife of the Sosua clubs with the same ol' chicas. To me this scene is getting boring. I have a small network of chicas that I always get at least one bang out of every trip. These girls ask me for nothing!!! Also, I have settled in with a pretty nice chica from Puerto Plata who above all else asks me for nothing!!! I spent a good part of my 12 nights with her. I made numerous trips out to Puerto Plata and met her large family. She owns a salon so she has her own money and her brother has his own barbershop (gave me a great 70 peso haircut). They treated me like I was a long lost cousin from a distant Palace (Sosua that is.. LOL). They had family down from New York (2 guys and 3 girls) and we partied all week from Tues. 30 Dec. till the weekend. Food, alcohol and music... I brought a bottle of Hennessy down from the US and had them drink that one night instead of the Brugal they had. I now have orders for 3-4 bottles of Hennessy when I return. I plan to keep in touch with some of her cousins while here in the states as they live within 40 miles.

As for the massage, if you haven't tried Viriginia massage on the way to the beach you are severely depriving yourself. It is 100 pesos more than M&M but well worth it. I went twice. The first time I had Jocelyn. In looks she is about a 5 but her massage skills are second to none!!! She was so good that I can't even remember the second chicas name from day 2. I just know Jocelyn is the one for me. She give a full hour relaxing massage from head to toe. The only thing to know about Viriginia massage is that you must make reservations because they rarely take walk ins. I think this place is attached to the resort because when I made my reservation, they asked for my room number.

All in all 1 hell of a trip... So far my best to date. I plan on going back for 5 days in March and then again in April with JDR and the crew for the Jarabacoa trip!!!

-Rover

From Rus

Since I got so much info from this group, I feel like I should give something back -- even though I may disagree with the whole concept of puta-mongering. I didn't bring much USD to DR for my trip, and I wish I brought more, for a very simple reason: at the bank (ATM) the exchange rate you get is a fixed 34.xx pesos per dollar. DR has a two-tier exchange system, where there's an official market (with the 34.xx rate) and a black market with much higher rates. When I came on Dec 22, the exchange rate on black market was about 35.5 - so for every $100 you exchange vs. withdrawal I left on the table approximately 150 pesos. 150 pesos isn't much. By the time I was about to leave (2 weeks later, last sunday) the black market guys were giving about 39-40 on the beach. That's a difference of about 600 pesos on $100 you exchange vs. withdraw. Being that this was my first trip, I didn't know the ropes, but I honestly can say now that when I go next time (barring any miraculous developments in the economy) I will bring enough dollars for my whole stay and then some. House safes in Europa (where I stayed) are fairly safe, I didn't have anything stolen out of my room (and I even forgot about 400 pesos on the nighttable one night, while still leaving the maid usual 60-70 pesos on the bed) - the pesos on the bed were gone and the pesos on the nightstand were there when I came back. I don't believe I was leaving more than I should have for the maid, so do the math -- she can get 1000-1500 pesos easily for a days' worth of work just in tips, why would she even think about jeapordizing her position by taking a little "extra"?

The talk is now that peso will continue to drop dramatically - there's an estimated excess of 15 billion pesos in circulation, so the difference between "official" and "black market" exchange rates should continue to increase. I estimate that I left on the table due to this difference about 10-15k pesos throughout my stay - that's a lot of money for down there.

Just to get a point straight before I get flamed for "shilling" (first time I saw this word was in this group, actually) but:

If you're down in Sosua and you've never been there before or if all you've seen there are the High Caribe, Disco Latino and Merengue Bar, drop by the Shark Bar on the beach - #66. Lou (one of the owners) is the coolest dude I've met on this trip by far and is knowleadgeable of what's going on, what's what and who's who. Dropping by Shark Bar my second day made what was going to be an ok-good vacation for me into a truly great one. Great place, great people, great service. If this serves as an indicator of anything, I've spent EVERY day of my vacation bar christmas day when the bar was closed either at the bar or on the beach by the bar. (If you were there in the last three weeks you would've seen me there, i'm the semi-shaved-head guy) Not sure how much time Lou's gonna be spending on the beach since he's been relieved of his duties by Justin now, but when he was there there were always women at the bar. Something for everyone, as the saying goes. Coldest beers I've had in DR here, too. Goddamn ice on the bottle -- that's my thing too.

Also, Lou and his partners have a guy working for them, Frankie, who speaks perfect english and who knows the ins and outs of the area -- if you talk to him, he can arrange a tour of the area for you, where you won't be paying through your nose for every drink and where you'll know when someone's trying to fcuk you, cause even if you don't -- he'll tell you. Again, if I weren't pointed to them the day before I left for DR, my stay would have been much, much less enjoyable.

I probably won't be posting much more here, but I felt I should give my 2 cents worth back to this group.

Alex


From Magnum

The Shark Bar sounds like the place to hang out at on the beach. That makes 3 for me. Mav's place and my personal favorite - Siempre Sol #145. The owner Herman is the same kind of guy as how you describe Lou. Been there for a while and knows all the ins and outs - including the chicas. Another must place definitely to hit on the beach. Ice cold beer as well and great food on an outdoor BBQ.

I may never make it off the beach with 3 great places now.

Clemenza
01-09-04, 17:55
Hi guys,

I don't do much posting but feel the need to chime in on tis one. THE DR IS THIRD WORLD NOT 5 STAR. You will encounter disparity inthe accomodations that you find there as opposed to here; hotel, restuarant, medical care, tranportation (vehicles+roads)enron is the power co. so its a miricle theres electricity at all.

As for the restuarants: there limited by the quality and availability of food (yes somtimes things that routinely are in abundance in our resuarants arent avialable for days there). There also aren't many world class chefs looking to cook in Sosua for 200us per month. But then again we dont go there for the world famous dining do we?

Morua mai and Bolognas are the 2 best places in Sosua. Yeah the service is slower than we might prefer but the care is taken that the food is the best quality available and is prepared so that we wont get sick. Do yourselves a favor dont eat on the beach or the street.

As far as the hotels, like anything else check your american expectations at the door. I wont even comment onthe "15 dollar anight" places.

The palace is one of the nicest ***** friendly places around this crap about it being a dive is absurd. The brick, tile and plaster work are some ofthe nicest in Sosua. The tv, air conditioners are new and work great (something you cant take for granted) and even more importantly each room has its own hot water heater so that we dont get stuck taking cold showers.

I also stay at One Ocean Place and although I love the place I could give you a list of things wrong with it: Hot water, old tv w/no remotes, noisy old a/c etc. But you know what, all things considerd its comfotable and gets the job done.

Remember one thing fellas: There are high class accomidations there but your not welcome to fuck your teenage ***** in the jacuzzi at 4am or even to bring her to your room.

And last but not least the girls. First off I have to disagree with Bill and say that honestly I've been amazed at the cleanliness of the *****s there and it is very rare to find a stinky box. I can only imagine that you get what you pay for.

I have seen a lot of guys down there and on these boards give very innacurate info on pricing. First off your not getting a quality piece of ass betwween 12-4am for less than 1000dr. Sure there are 400peso *****s around, but its like going out of your way to find a 19 year old Haitian girl with the body of a 40 year old. Anything half way decent isn't taking herself out of circulation for 4 or 500 pesos. Sorry guys, I don't care who you are. I'm young, good looking, popular with the *****s for years and speak better spanish than 95% of the guys there (Jimmy DR and many others know me well and respect my opinion on the place). I'm not getting anything of quality for 500 and neither will you. And dont fall into the "I'm not paying her. I'll take her shopping" situation it doesn't work and is more expensive. Fuck'em, pay'em, toss'em and move on.

In short, expect around 1000 pesos for short time and anywhere from 1500-2500 for all night. Yes I know thats a big range but its the difference between hamburger and filet. Expect to pay more in crystals and boem 2500-4000 for all night (I don't do shorts with these chicks so I dont know.

Listen up guys, the difference between a girl you wont forget and a girl youd like to forget is about 12 dollars. Its your vacation and your memories, make the most of it. No, I'm not rich and I dont like to overpay (for the record I grew up in the South Bronx in one of the poorest nieghborhoods in the country) but I'm not traveling 3 hours to fuck some skank when I can get my dick sucked for 10 bucks by a junkie.

Remember guys you get what you pay for. If you choose to spend you vacation in a 15 dollar room, eating 4 dollar meals and fucking 12 dollar *****s, don't expect to enjoy the place as much as "those that know".

P.S. You can't even compare 2000 dollars and 20 hrs in a plane to Thailand. I can hit the DR for almost 3 weeks for that (airfare and overpriced dive included).

Take care guys

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Ford
01-09-04, 19:44
LAjazz wrote:
Get emotions involved with these island girls and there may be hell to pay.

Hey LAjazz,

Its good to talk with you again, I met you at the Palace in October. Boy what you said is absolutely true! Alot of guys think these putas are pro-working girls and that's all they'll ever be and that's all they ever want to be etc. etc. etc. This is so untrue.

Alot of these girls are just killing time, until a better option comes along. For many all they really want to do is meet a guy who brings some stability (and of course) some consistent form of income into their lives.

Once they get emotionally involved with you they wrap their arms (and legs) around you and they don't ever want to let you go, you are right! I know that for me, if I ever consider trying to break things off with the steady girl that I'm with now - they'll find my body in a steemer trunk somewhere. ;)

Once you get in their head and their heart - cuidad!!
Cheers,
FORD

JimmyDR
01-09-04, 19:55
Once they get emotionally involved with you they wrap their arms (and legs) around you and they don't ever want to let you go, you are right! I know that for me, if I ever consider trying to break things off with the steady girl that I'm with now - they'll find my body in a steemer trunk somewhere.


Never, we got your back! I broke it off before, its a game and they DO GO AWAY! It is our playground, our rules!!!!

Who is laughing, we pay $25-$75 for all nighters, I think we are laughing the loudest!!!!

Rocky Mtn Man
01-10-04, 04:20
What kind of clothes do you need in the DR in March?

What do you need for the bars/clubs?

Any point in taking gifts for the Chicas?

I have never done the Viagra thing. Is it available in Sousa easily? How Much?

LAjazz
01-10-04, 05:48
Good to hear from you, Ford. Yes I remember you. How could I forget your adventure with El Rubio. I've been reading your post. Good informative stuff. Hope to run into again in the DR.

LA

Joe Scuba
01-10-04, 06:07
I was looking for a place I could get in a little scuba practice and have some fun in between dives and in the evenings. From what I have read here looks like Sosua is the place, but one thing. I don't speak any spanish. The scuba will still be ok, but what about the ladies. I know eveyone says you can "communicate" but can you really have the great time you guys discribe without speaking any spanish.

Any suggestions on a place I can go where spanish is not needed?

Gutter Meat
01-10-04, 07:23
10 more days to Sosua and the exchange rate keeps getting better by the day. Its back up to 40 to $1!

Amis
01-10-04, 10:11
Rocky Mtn Man is right as it seems we are happy to pay very high prices back home in the USA but the minute we are in a third world country, we want it for free. We are acting not any different than the big multi-national corporations. I was in Las Vegas recently and paid $150 -$200 for 1 hour. The girls are nothing like those in the DR in terms of quality. You will not get a decent USA young, attractive blonde escort unless you dish out $300 at least for one hour. So, does the quality of the girl you are attracted to now change based on where she lives? To put things in persepective, if you really have your heart set on that hootie, why not pay what you think she is worth to you. The converse should be true that if you are not attracted to the girl then you will not pay even a dime because she is of no value to you sexually. It seems to me any price under $100 for a hot girl for all night we should not cry and mourn about it. Here in the USA, a stupid lame massage runs you $40 for half hour. A lap dance is $20 for 2 minutes long, a so-called VIP dance at most strip clubs is $120. And you get nothing except a cock-tease guys. By the way, guys gladly pay these prices at strip clubs because I see it all the time. I mean it costs money to travel and have fun and if you are really on a very tight budget and want to nickle and dime the girls for $25 sex act, perhaps you need your money more badly. Now, don't get me wrong, we should be aware of the going rates. However, market conditions can change depending on the day, time of the day, availability of girls. I think the indicator prices are a guide and not set in stone. While staying at Horus Apartment Hotel in Santiago, the owner told me "don't pay more than $30....here in the Dominican Republic, we don't make much money". It seems $30 - $50 would be a fair price. I would assume a model-material girl could command and get up to $100 easily because of her beauty. There are some of us who would pay good to have her. In any case, I don't really think anyone can tell other people how they should spend their money. Talk of ruining the market is questionable as that would depend on demand and supply just like any commodity. Yes, pussy is sort of a commodity.

Rocky Mtn Man
01-11-04, 01:47
*******,

Who seems to have the best handle on what is happening down there, says the going rate is 25 to 75 bucks a night. Roughly 1000 to 3000 a night. Sounds like a price range to me. Now, I never said dont bargain, and I never said overpay. What I said was, pay a fair price. Fair price would be dictated by local supply and demand. If I get a good meal with excellent service I tend to tip on the high side. Nothing wrong with that. If the service sucks and the food should have been fed to the dogs, then no tip at all. Nothing wrong with that either. I guess I will find out if the price you pay directly dictates as how skanky they smell. I know guys who enjoy cruising the lower East side of Vancouver and find junky *****s desirable. Not my cup of tea. A few more bucks, a more desirable woman and I got someone who I can take home and introduce to the wife. Call it Monger Pride. (Maybe we should have a parade and our own special day?)

Amis
01-11-04, 08:48
Rock Mtn. Man:

I am curious to see what the response from the DR Veteran Monger is going to be considering I was deemed to have over paid. Sure, the 1,000 - 3000 ($25 -$ 75) is quite a spread.

Based on my observation, and I am no expert on DR scene:

1) The High Caribe Disco, Bar Girls & Latino Disco girls ask for 1,500 pesos as a start. This may be a short time at these rates and/or it is possible to have all night with these girls.

Palace girls ask for 1,000 peso's for just 1 pop.

It is my understanding that the girls in Puerto Plata clubs i.e. at Crystal's & El Boehem asking & going price is 3,000 pesos. It may be posible to get 2,000-2500 Peso's but I never took any.

Therefore, depending from which place you pull the girl i.e. High Caribe or Crystals, yes you could pay 1,500 - 3,000 for all night.

No, I don't think if you pay more has any correlation of having better service. Attitude, good vibes and agreeing on terms/conditions before hand is more important I think.

Member #1553
01-11-04, 08:51
Since you all seem to know the price markets and the whole scene, and content to pay your prices I will sign off from the boards I am on. I only use these boards to help people and I don't take anything from them anymore especially about the DR because I know about anything you could know in the South/central area. I have received a few hundred emails in the last two years from various boards, traded pics, and mostly just gave info to newbies, I have enough women lined up that I can see and I don't have to worry about pros as much anymore and the market being ruined by overpaying Gringos. I also have Guatemala to explore more thoroughly, I don't exchange info regarding that country due to only one trip there but that is a place to really explore as well for amateurs, can get great deals to central america using sky auction website. Some of us mongers only make about 35K a year and 3-4 trips a year exhausts a lot of resources and that is why I negotiate when using pros, you others must be loaded. Thanks and good luck to everyone I have met in the DR and exchanged emails with.

Bill
01-11-04, 11:42
Fantasy,

What is blackbeards? What are you talking about? Are you ASS/U/ming something? Are you fantasizing about someone? Sex in a helicopter maybe? Who knows....

Newbies,

Don't forget to report after your trip, with opinions about women, lodging, food, things to do, etc... Don't be afraid to post your own true findings, no matter what the business owners in here say or think!

Antonelli
01-11-04, 16:08
Joe Scuba,

Check out North Coast Divers in Sosua. The owner is American. If you're worried about spanish, stay at the Palace. Plenty of guys to give you all the info you need.

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JimmyDR
01-11-04, 16:54
I was looking for a place I could get in a little scuba practice and have some fun in between dives and in the evenings. From what I have read here looks like Sosua is the place, but one thing. I don't speak any spanish. The scuba will still be ok, but what about the ladies. I know eveyone says you can "communicate" but can you really have the great time you guys discribe without speaking any spanish.

Any suggestions on a place I can go where spanish is not needed?

There are dozens of mongers everywhere and Spanish isn't needed your fist trip. Try #10 or #66 at the beach, both owned by Americans or The Sosua Palace or Blue Dolpin Bar if you are wanting to get first hand info.Rockies is a another place where the mongers are as well.

JimmyDR
01-11-04, 16:57
Who seems to have the best handle on what is happening down there, says the going rate is 25 to 75 bucks a night. Roughly 1000 to 3000 a night. Sounds like a price range to me. Now, I never said dont bargain, and I never said overpay. What I said was, pay a fair price. Fair price would be dictated by local supply and demand. If I get a good meal with excellent service I tend to tip on the high side. Nothing wrong with that. If the service sucks and the food should have been fed to the dogs, then no tip at all. Nothing wrong with that either. I guess I will find out if the price you pay directly dictates as how skanky they smell. I know guys who enjoy cruising the lower East side of Vancouver and find junky *****s desirable. Not my cup of tea. A few more bucks, a more desirable woman and I got someone who I can take home and introduce to the wife. Call it Monger Pride. (Maybe we should have a parade and our own special day?)

The chicas at Long Beach want about $25 whlie the chicas in El Boem and Crystals want $75 plus. Mountainview is maybe $30-$40 for the night. The range is different in the different places. I agree with you on your coment. A fair price is FAIR!



What kind of clothes do you need in the DR in March?

What do you need for the bars/clubs?

Any point in taking gifts for the Chicas?

I have never done the Viagra thing. Is it available in Sousa easily? How Much?


Its getting warmer near the end of March. The days are getting hotter. Anything is okay for the bars, that is no dress code required. Viagra is sold everywhere in DR. Bring some nail Polish or Lipstick if you want to.

Rocky Mtn Man
01-12-04, 06:22
To *******,

Thanks for the info. I had my arival date wrong in the previous post. It is March 4th. I hope to hook up with a few fellow mongers and if I can hook up with some from this board that would be a bonus. My holiday is really about doing very little of anything. Drink some beer, fuck some women, sleep in late, fuck some more women and drink some more beer.

Later,

Rocky (real first name by the way)

Ford
01-12-04, 23:17
Rocky Mtn Man wrote:
My holiday is really about doing very little of anything. Drink some beer, fuck some women, sleep in late, fuck some more women and drink some more beer.


Uh...... I'm confused.......not doing very much of anything?
This sounds like a complete vacation to me! ;)

Cheers,
FORD

SosuaDoctor
01-13-04, 01:56
You guys just dont get it. It has NOTHING to do with what they are ASKING. It has to do with what they are willing to do it for and how that amount relates to the average Dominicans life in Sosua. If a girl is willing to work in a bar all night for 100 pesos (thats the average salary), how do you think 800 pesos computes against that? It's the same as working for 8 nights, and all she has to do is lay down and let you bang her for 10 minutes. Don't you think that she thinks the 800 pesos is worth that? Damn right she does. But if she asks for 1,500 pesos and you say YES, then she feels like she is making a FORTUNE off you. I know 30 or 40 dollars is nothing to us but it is stoopid money for them, and they think you are stupid to pay so much for a little action. Stop thinking like Americans. Everything is relative down there.

Also, whoever said it is simple supply vs. demand was right. How many putas do you see in the Merengue bar as opposed to tourists. Easily 10 to 1. That means 9 out of 10 putas go home with nothing. Don't you think a girl would LOVE to go home with 700 or 800 pesos in her pocket instead of nothing? Then why pay more? When they see you wont raise your offer, they will take it, trust me. All you guys are doing is driving up the prices and making the product more expensive. Please stop doing this.

Sosua Doctor

SosuaDoctor
01-13-04, 03:43
Somebody asked what clothes they should wear and this is a topic that I feel should be addressed. Dominicans frown on wearing shorts period. If you wear them you will look like an idiot to them. This excludes going to the beach. If you travel outside the touristy areas, you will never see a male wearing shorts. Years ago, as a matter of fact, Dominicans used to equate the wearing of shorts with homosexuality. Now they just equate it with dumb tourists with no class.

Mind you, I think you should be able to wear whatever you want to. It is also pretty damn hot down there and some of us North Americans feel more comfortable in a pair of shorts. Just remember that if you do wear shorts, they will naturally think you to be of a lower class and IQ. They will treat you accordingly. Most importantly for the guys reading here, the GIRLS will treat you accordingly. Contrary to what you might think, if a girl sees you dressed nicely (nice slacks, shoes, and a nice shirt) she will see you as being more elegant and intelligent and will not try to fleece you like many of you are being fleeced. If she sees the same guy in shorts and flip flops, she will try to take you for all she can because she sees an idiot tourist.

I know alot of you think you know the DR front and back because you have been to Sosua a few dozen times but that does not mean you understand Dominican idealogy and train of thought. When you spend some time in the rest of the country with REAL Dominicans, you learn. Listen to what I say and you will be pleasantly surprised at the way you are treated by the women and how much easier they go on your wallet. Speaking Espanol is also a HUGE advantage. If you do not speak it, start learning. Again, you will see a big difference the way you are recieved.

Sosua Doctor

A Toda Maquina
01-13-04, 07:35
Hey Pilgrims , Now that sounds like a plan. I might throw in some swimming ,eating ,hanging around the park,and rent a motorbike if I can find one . I just got back from a mountainous area of northern Mexico (where I froze at night) and cant wait to get to the DR where its hot and I can swim !!! Hey Ford, I will drop you a pm on a location we can meet .

Later, Chango

Gutter Meat
01-13-04, 08:25
U.S Airways now has service every Saturday to La Romana with a stop in Charlotte North Carolina.

Bill
01-13-04, 22:55
Sosua doctor,

I do agree with you about correcting guys coming to Sosua and give all the girls minimum 1000p and think they are being gentlemen by topping it off with a tip. I spoke to many putas who I ended up being friends with and not sleeping with. They tell me they don't expect a tip, but notice it when a guy is trying to impress her or if they are ugly. She says Dominicans don't tip and pay the going rate, so she goes with tourists because they are easy. The guys who think they are big spenders and tip like they are in NYC, are screwing it up for avg. guys on a budget who want to maximize their fun/dollar.

I do disagree with you as far as how putas look at the tourist wearing shorts and t shirts. The girls are just concerened with how much money you will give them upon completion of your nut. Most putas are uneducated and wearing cheap clothes, and why would you care what a prostitute thinks of you anyway? After all this is the "Sosua" forum section, and Sosua is known nationwide as a puta hooring destination. Dominicans don't go out of their way to take their families to a place like Sosua. Your theory may apply to other towns. My buddies and I were laughing it up at a couple of guys in the Merengue and High Caribe who had on a shiny shoes and color coordinated outfits complete with jacket. They really needed to dress up. So ugly the street dogs wouldn't pay attention!

JimmyDR
01-14-04, 01:39
After all this is the "Sosua" forum section, and Sosua is known nationwide as a puta hooring destination. Dominicans don't go out of their way to take their families to a place like Sosua.


What are you talking about? Go to Sosua beach on Sunday and there are 1,000's of Dominican families there spending their day off or hit Caribe Campo Hotel on Saturday and its full of Dominican Families!


I do disagree with you as far as how putas look at the tourist wearing shorts and t shirts. The girls are just concerened with how much money you will give them upon completion of your nut. Most putas are uneducated and wearing cheap clothes, and why would you care what a prostitute thinks of you anyway?

I knew if I waited long enough, something you wrote would be something I agree with 100%

Tn-gman
01-14-04, 04:28
Us airways has great deals from almost anywhere to miami right now and american airlines has mia to pop at $179.00 for departures of next wednesday and you can stay up to 7 nights.

Bill
01-14-04, 04:44
Jimmy, J,J,

If you carefully read what I wrote.....The Dominicans don't "go out of their way" to go to Sosua. Meaning these people are not from Puerto Plata or Boca Chica, Santiago or anywhere else that requires a little travel. I will bet you 500 pesos most of these Dominicans at Sosua beach are living/working/going to school in the Sosua area. Especially Charamicos. Do you get me? I wish I was there to enjoy the current high dollar exchange, and If I could go back in time, bring back a couple more boxes of high end cigars. They are selling for 9 times the price!

Bill
01-14-04, 04:54
Anyone interested in Anal? There is this one girl who works at the Genesis beach bar. By the way, watch your tab here. I was charged 180p for a water and a pina colada. I found out the owner is a Russkie. The girl has an angelic face, is about 18, dark, decent body and gives one hell of a lap dance. She told me in the room, "she likes it in her cullo". No shiit! Will complain if you give her less than 1000p.

Estoy Negro
01-14-04, 08:58
Just came back from a trip (Jan 9-13) and I have to say, some of these these women were crazy with the prices. I've been going as long as Jimmy DR and other guys, women I've given 800 pesos to for the whole night with everything included, actually asked me for 1,500 for a quick nut. Brought me to near tears with laughter, I asked them did they go & buy a new pussy or learned new tricks?

We are pricing ourselves right into a high class market. As far as you guys that think the really pretty girls should get more than average girl, I have to disagree, if there so extra special, then why aren't they married & home raising there children? The dominican guys treat them all the same, pretty women in this country are a dime a dozen.

You cannot put these women in the same group as the regular working dominican people, who work at stores, the airport, the banks, the McDonalds & Codetel's. These are the ones who are the most hurt when the peso drops. Most of the hookers work at finding a man and getting all she can from him. Some then go waste it on clothes and beer. Most don't raise there children, how can you when you hang out till 4am and if you get a date for the night, then you come home at 10 or 11am & sleep till 6pm & start this over & over? You know girls in our country in the same suitation don't get any respect , so you think these women do?

I think were making a mistake getting into there culture on this board, if you want to discuss that then you need to go other boards that have a whole range of topics, where sex isn't the main topic. Especially when you start talking about you style of dress when your on vacation & what they think of you. If you want to know about there culture for example, go to the DR1 message board and read what the people who live there 24/7 have to say.

Trust me, Sousa isn't held in the highest regard, is mostly laughed at and know for the ugliest women in DR, not much else. Of course this is there opinions not ours....lol
I thought were here to talk about our experiences, having the most fun as possible, right places to go, best places to stay & if we come across any great deals then let everyone else know, TRUE?

And as far as not looking like a tourist, I'll use myself as an example, I've been to alot of other black countries, and always wondered how the people knew I wasn't from there. (Jamacia, Belize for example) A girl told me that it was my skin tone, not the clothes, the sun really burns your skin in these countries, so if you come there and are from a cool climate, your skin tone is a give away, no matter what, flip flops or designer clothes. Next time you there, look at the skin of the people who now live there and aren't originally from DR. (Canada, Europe) There skin is burned, way past tan. If your from NYC, unless you go to tanning salon every day you'll never look like that.

So who cares, aren't we there to release some stress, sperm cells, relax & have a great time there, before DR gets americanized like Aruba and Bermuda for example. ($7 beers, $200 regular hotels, not the all inclusive types).

Mas Tarde

Juan

JimmyDR
01-15-04, 00:49
Well we (Vak and I) have the plan layed out!!!


Fri April 16 arrive in Santiago, stay at Camp David and hit the
clubs. Passions, Casa Blanca and Illusions.
Sat April 17 arrive in Sosua.
Sunday to Tuesday, hit Samana
Wednesday hit Sosua
Thursday and Friday hit Jarrabacao
Saturday night, Camp David
Sunday, he goes and I stay 5 more days!!!

Reservations required for Jarrabacoa only!!!!

PM me if interested in any portion of this trip!!!!

Ford
01-15-04, 04:06
holla mates,

well i'm in official "count-down" mode! it looks like el ford-o will be back on the north coast for trip #5 starting the weekend of february 7th-8th, yippee! since the temperature here in the northeast lately makes me feel like i'm one of the indigenous inuit people of the artic circle - i can't wait!!

i have a question for all the "usual suspects" of this board like *******, bil, sosuadoctor etc. maybe someone can give me some info.

i was reading on one of the dominican newspaper websites that once again the dominican peso is dropping like a stone, and since president mejia is still asleep at the wheel it is likely going to continue to drop thru the spring. the article went on to say that despite the fact that some exchange houses are still only giving 36rdp to 1 usd - the exchange rate on the street, in the "black market" is much higher. anecdotal evidence is that some street money changers are paying as much as 48rdp to 1usd!!

has anyone dealt with any of these money changers? know any ones that you trust? where do they hang out? i will primarily be in cabarete on this trip but of course will stop in sosua often.

for a premium of over 20% it just doesn't make any sense to go to the exchange houses, anymore.

cheers,
ford

Ford
01-15-04, 04:07
After I posted the last message I looked in on a financial website - and noticed that they have the current rate at 44.5RDP to 1USD!

Que barato!

Bill
01-15-04, 04:27
Ford,
I dealt with Mapelio and Benny. To find Mapelio, see the owner of the Siempre Sol beach bar. Mapelio is balding, slender, not too dark, in his 40's? Benny is usually around the Plutus bar. Stocky, 50's, dark skinned, moustache, ballcap. Both have a wad of pesos in hand. They will give you a better rate than the booths and you may even be able to bargain a bit more. Definitely change money in Sosua before going to Cabarete. I got your pm in Sosua, almost got busted!, since my m.o. is usually stealth.

SosuaDoctor
01-15-04, 05:10
Ford,

Never change your money on the street or in Cambio houses. Go into the banks in the morning and see who has the best rates. Usually the place a few doors down from Eddys sports bar has the best rate. If you happen to stop into Rockys for breakfast one day, ask the owner, Marco, where to change your money. He will get on the phone and call around and let you know who is offering the best rate that day.

Enjoy!

Sosua Dotor

A Toda Maquina
01-15-04, 18:35
hey juan, good report . too many peeps dropping too much $$$$$$ on the chicas then comparing it to a certain high dollar ,blue balled , depriven, high maintenance ,bsd, place 600-800 miles n .,nw. of the island . hey, i 've seen it happen in other places too. imagine being quoted $300 u.s. in guatemala.(ex -pats in mx, el salvador) and of course better economic situations for some locals in mx have run prices up.but in general have never seen it as bad as in the heavy tourist frequented areas to the piont fs is almost non -existant ,no sw's and only the high $$$ strip clubs have any action and it will cost what one paid for his airfare there.and the chicas attitudes are no different than up here in this depriven ,blue balled place called home. i usually see what a average income is for a local ,then go from there. i feel for the poor guy who after all day of picking bananas or tobacco etc. wants to relax with a chica only too find he can't afford it cause he can't compete with the big spenders from the north. and besides its not good to be known in some places for throwing around big $$$$$ , one might be labeled as a cash cow ! this po boy might not be able to crank around the corners with the big boys ..

no offense intended. maintian...... later, chango

and yes i've picked kaffee beans before!

Gutter Meat
01-15-04, 20:29
From ******** Dollar touches RD$50 mark:

Banks posted signs yesterday advertising US dollars at RD$50, despite all efforts to reduce the exchange rate. The unofficial rate is estimated at RD$51, according to the newspapers. El Caribe links the peso devaluation with the attempt to reform the electoral law, saying that the proposed controversial Ley de Lemas is undermining public confidence and must be stopped immediately. "If there is any doubt, check the date when discussions began on this issue (the Ley de Lemas) and the latest surge in the dollar rate." The writer ends with the following plea: "Dominicans need a reaction. Decisions that provide a breath of relief. Please."

For an update on the exchange rate, readers can consult the DR1 Business Forum, where board members from all around the country post the actual rate transactions have been made at. The link to this update on the exchange rate is posted on the front page of ******** in the left sidebar, where previously the Central Bank was being listed.

Gutter Meat
01-15-04, 20:31
I will be spending one night in St Maarten before hitting Sosua on the 20th. Does anyone have any good information on this island? Ect, nightclubs, bars, & women. I put up a post on the St Martin board but no responces.

Thanks for any info.

Ford
01-16-04, 04:08
To Bil and SosuaDoctor,

Thanks guys for the info on the money - real good stuff! I'm now ready to haggle. ;)

Cheers

Morpheus666
01-16-04, 11:47
Hi Bill,

Thanks for your information-offer on anal. I have been to DR 4 years ago and found it very hard to find a girl who does anal, even more money did not interest them. Finally I found a chica that fell in love with me (at least she said it), it was the only way to get it.

End of March I will go again to Sosua/Cabarete for kite-surfing. Can you tell me the name (foto?) of the girl and where to pick her up?

You can send the info to me as a private message. I'm a newbee on the board and it seems they do not want that names of girls are published as I found no ratings of girls or descriptions of their service-offers as you can find in forums about e.g. girls in the clubs of the czech republic.

Best regards

Morpheus666

Foxman Cometh
01-16-04, 15:50
Hello all,

I've been tracking this website for about a month and I have to tell you - I am pumped up about my first trip to the DR in March. I'm coming down with about 5 buddies (2 of which have been down there a few times and speak fluent Spanish - no worries!). I first want to say that it's great to see that a place still exists where you can have good solid fun for a few days, and get there in just a few hours. I can't fuckin' wait!

I have a question - we are going to be staying at Hotel Voramar in Sosua with Henk and his team. If anyone could provide info on this place (seems like a cool pool and bar area) - what type of rooms, chick friendly, etc. - it would be greatly appreciated. usually ny buddies stay at the palace. Also please give some more tips to a "first timer". I will definitely keep communicating with this site, and will give all details when I get back. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Hopefully, since I am always looking for places to go to have fun, I'll get down there again and I'll get to meet some of you fellow mongers.

Thanks,

Foxman

Foxman Cometh
01-16-04, 22:54
Hey all,

2 additional questions:

1) how far is Voramar from the main Sosua Beach, and
2) How far is Voramar from the Palace.

In other words, is it walkable in a few minutes?

Thanks,

Foxman

JimmyDR
01-17-04, 02:37
Hello all,

I've been tracking this website for about a month and I have to tell you - I am pumped up about my first trip to the DR in March. I'm coming down with about 5 buddies (2 of which have been down there a few times and speak fluent Spanish - no worries!). I first want to say that it's great to see that a place still exists where you can have good solid fun for a few days, and get there in just a few hours. I can't fuckin' wait!

I have a question - we are going to be staying at Hotel Voramar in Sosua with Henk and his team. If anyone could provide info on this place (seems like a cool pool and bar area) - what type of rooms, chick friendly, etc. - This is a 24 room Hotel near the Casino and its guest friendly it would be greatly appreciated. usually ny buddies stay at the palace. Also please give some more tips to a "first timer". I will definitely keep communicating with this site, and will give all details when I get back. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Hopefully, since I am always looking for places to go to have fun, I'll get down there again and I'll get to meet some of you fellow mongers.

Thanks,

Foxman

You need to take a motoconch to the beach or walk 20 minutes to get there

Sean_Double
01-17-04, 03:07
I just made a last minute decision to cruise down to Sosua on Thursday, January 22. I'll be staying for a week. From what I've read on the board it sounds like a great place; I'm pretty excited because I've never really mongered anywhere other than asia.
I've read a lot of posts about the Palace and it sounds nice. Here's my question: I swim a couple of miles every morning; is there a nice, chica friendly, not terribly expensive hotel with a nice pool? If not so be it, I'll just have to get my exercise some other way.
Take Care
Sean

Chris P
01-17-04, 06:16
Damn, 50 pesos to the dollar, that's a good rate. I'm from the UK, and the pound sterling has been appreciating against the US dollar for a while. Does anyone know the DRpeso-UK£ rate right now? Judging by the dollar it might be as much as 80:1, in which case I might just have to take a vacation.

Bill
01-17-04, 06:25
Foxman,
Be very alert and wary if you decide to chance the "motoconchos" . Many people (including locals) have had their vacations cut short or returned home bandaged and bruised because of unforseen accidents.

JimmyDR
01-17-04, 15:37
I just made a last minute decision to cruise down to Sosua on Thursday, January 22. I'll be staying for a week. From what I've read on the board it sounds like a great place; I'm pretty excited because I've never really mongered anywhere other than asia.
I've read a lot of posts about the Palace and it sounds nice. Here's my question: I swim a couple of miles every morning; is there a nice, chica friendly, not terribly expensive hotel with a nice pool? If not so be it, I'll just have to get my exercise some other way.
Take Care
Sean

Caribe Campo has the biggest pool I ever seen and its $25 per night! Its a 5 minute walk into town but I love their pool!!!

JimmyDR
01-17-04, 16:52
Foxman,
Be very alert and wary if you decide to chance the "motoconchos" . Many people (including locals) have had their vacations cut short or returned home bandaged and bruised because of unforseen accidents.

Cut short? More Dominicans are killed every year than you can imagine

Bill
01-17-04, 22:46
I hope your not talking about the El Colibri hotel on Pedro Clisante. I recently e-mailed them, their rate right now is $35/night and guests are $5. additional/night. (the same girl, not different ones)

Rocky Mtn Man
01-17-04, 23:21
The best currency website I have found is xe.com. Look on the page for the full version. It boosts 180 different currency translation possiblities. It claims to have every currency in the world.

Rocky

Foxman Cometh
01-19-04, 14:24
I think I'll stick to the taxis - it's probably hard to get a chick to sit on your face on a motoconch, anyway.

Foxman

Ford
01-20-04, 03:13
******* wrote:
Caribe Campo has the biggest pool I ever seen and its $25 per night! Its a 5 minute walk into town but I love their pool!!!


Hey Jimmy, I have heard you mention this place before so I emailed them. It sounds real interesting for my upcoming February vacation! They quoted me prices of 40$ for a studio/hotel room - 55$ for a 1 bedrom - 70$ for a two bedroom -large luxurious rooms, huge pool + jacuzzi. Is this their "bottom" price you think or can I try to shake them down for a better deal? They said the resort is no longer all-inclusive, but this works great for me. This means I can hit my regular haunts (Mora Mai, La Rocas, PJ's for dinner) and be around the action in Sosua!

Can you give a brief review of this place. How do you get there from POP airport by car? How far is it from the beach? I will be with my novia on this trip, but if my future trips involve "variety" is it guest friendly?

Thanks for the tip - I'm keeping a running total, I think I now owe you about four beers when I meet you! :)
Cheers,
FORD

Mirco
01-20-04, 05:01
So, please somebody make it clear- what is rate at Caribe Campo? $25 or $40? Difference is almost twice. And what is their web-site?

JimmyDR
01-20-04, 13:38
******* wrote:
Caribe Campo has the biggest pool I ever seen and its $25 per night! Its a 5 minute walk into town but I love their pool!!!


Hey Jimmy, I have heard you mention this place before so I emailed them. It sounds real interesting for my upcoming February vacation! They quoted me prices of 40$ for a studio/hotel room - 55$ for a 1 bedrom - 70$ for a two bedroom -large luxurious rooms, huge pool + jacuzzi. Is this their "bottom" price you think or can I try to shake them down for a better deal? They said the resort is no longer all-inclusive, but this works great for me. This means I can hit my regular haunts (Mora Mai, La Rocas, PJ's for dinner) and be around the action in Sosua!

Can you give a brief review of this place. How do you get there from POP airport by car? How far is it from the beach? I will be with my novia on this trip, but if my future trips involve "variety" is it guest friendly? Yes its guest friendly and they have over 100 rooms there.


Well it was $25 in October but that was still low season there. Now its high season. For the prices in October its a nice place, for the higher prices its too much. Its on the main road heading to Caberete on the right side, a little past the Texaco.Its a 7 minute walk to The Palace/Europa from there.

Thanks for the tip - I'm keeping a running total, I think I now owe you about four beers when I meet you!
Cheers,
FORD

I emailed him again for his prices.

A Toda Maquina
01-20-04, 18:32
Now I like pools too , but gonna look for a large lagoon on the coast with trees around it to swing off a rope into the deep clear water ! Oh , are there water moccassins in the DR ?
Hey Ford , look for a Big dude and a lil dude with a horde of chicas in tow , that'll be us.


Later, Chango

Ford
01-21-04, 04:23
Chango wrote:
Hey Ford , look for a Big dude and a lil dude with a horde of chicas in tow , that'll be us.

Hey Chango, man I PM you sorry for the delay.

To All,

I emailed the Campo Caribe Club again. It looks like $40- studio, $55 -1 bedrom is going to be their bottom price thru April.
If I stay here in February I'll post a review incl. guest info.

I can't post the website address because Jackson's filter catches/deletes website names. Had this happen before.

Cheers,
(pass me a Presidente)
FORD

DFWdude
01-21-04, 19:28
Hey-
Does anyone have the website for the Palace Hotel in Sousa???

I saw it once on here but darn it if I cant find it now!!!

Vladimir
01-21-04, 20:18
The Vladimir Chronicles - Dominican Republic: Prologue

I had a discomforting flight, but otherwise my trip to the island of the Dominican Republic was a very enjoyable one. The standards of service I received from the ladies exceeded my expectations as well as the levels of service I have come to expect from ladies in some other countries I've visited in Central and South America. French kissing was very common and of all the ladies I visited, only one didn't give a blowjob and only two were covered. A couple got so worked up that they started to initiate bareback sex that was incredibly difficult to interrupt and others seemed willing to let me if I had just pushed my way in while they were grinding on top of me.

Daytime action was difficult to find. I suppose I could easily have asked for phone numbers, but I didn't plan on repeating and wanted to work harder on finding ladies during before the bars opened. When I return, I will likely get phone numbers from my second choices in the bars at night, I imagine most would happily accept a 100% cut of the money before they even go into work the next day.

In the research I did prior to my flight, I had discoved that in prior years the city of Boca Chica was the hotspot of the DR, but had gone through some kind of deterioration in quality for our hobby. The new hotspot was near the northern coast in the town of Sosua (pronounced so-SOO-ah). I personally preferred my time spent in Costambar, Puerto Plata, and especially Santiago, but I can certainly understand the draw of Sosua with it's more relaxed pace and nearby beach.

While I find find ladies of all ethnicities to be attractive, my preference for lighter skinned latinas slightly lowered my opinion of the DR in terms of appearance based on the selection I saw. The lighter skinned ones can certainly be found, especially in the larger cities, but you will enjoy the DR much more if you can appreciate those of a darker flavor.

In Sosua, I stayed at the Voramar, paying $30 US/night including taxes and service. I had to pay for the entire length of my stay to keep my reservation. I mistakenly thought I might have a problem finding rooms because it was high season, but that is probably only the case at the Sosua Palace which is small and highly promoted.

I spent one night in Costambar at Blackbeards Resort when visiting Puerto Plata. The rate was $45 US before tax and service for a much nicer room. The total was $60, not including a couple meals and drinks I purchased.

My last three nights were at the Hotel Hodelpa in Santiago. I found this place with the assistance of John of the Sosua Palace. The rate there was $50 US per night, not including fees and my raiding of their reasonably priced mini-bar.

This report contains reviews and/or comments from the following places:

Bars/Nightclubs/Discos
Sosua: D'Latino's Club, Flamingo Club, High Caribbean Disco, Merengue Bar
Puerto Plata: Cristal, El Bohen, Galactic Club
Santiago: Casa Blanca, Ilusion, Pasion, Porky's (formerly Riverside)

Hotels
Sosua: Blue Dolphin Resort, Hotel Europa, Hotel Nuevo Mundo (formerly One Ocean Place), The Sosua Palace, Hotel Voramar
Costambar/Puerto Plata: Blackbeard's Resort
Santiago: Camp David Resort, Hotel Colonial, Hotel Hodelpa

Restaurants
Sosua: Atlantic Blue, Bologna, Europa Restaurant, La Roca, Morua Mai, PJ's, Voramar Restaurant

Additional comments on any of the places mentioned would be appreciated as I hope to return soon. Enjoy the rest of the report!

Vladimir

P.S. I appreciate all comments, even small thanks and constructive criticism. I have my private messages enabled if you do not want to post public comments. Thanks in advance.

Vladimir
01-21-04, 20:27
the vladimir chronicles - dominican republic: chapter 01: from pregnant ladies to hot dancers

where's my red folder? that extrememly discomforting thought raced through my head when i opened my backpack to look for my pda. my fatigue evaporated as i opened the main flap of my bag in the overhead bin and felt around for the folder. i rushed the backpack under the seat and fought my way back through the crowd of people boarding the plane. my highly compact sony vaio laptop is worth $1500 not including the work and files it includes, and it was no longer in my possession. i was accompanied by a flight attendant as i jogged through the gate lobby. no one had seen the red folder nor the laptop and no one had turned one in. we returned to the plane with the attendant promising they'd do their best to find it, but my hopes were not too optimistic.

several times throughout the flight, the attendant requested that the laptop be returned over the pa system. as we flew, i replayed my actions in my head to try to determine when the folder had been grabbed. i had been using the computer early on near the gate, and i remembered stuffing it tightly back into the backpack, so it was definitely grabbed by someone in the lobby. it could have been grabbed during moments i had drifted off to sleep, but i was sitting near many other people, so that would have been an extrememly bold and risky move likely to wake me as the bag was near my feet. then i thought of the pda, i removed the folder while lookng around for the pda. i had trouble finding it, so it was probably taken while i was distracted and fatigued. since the flight was boarding i planned to just find the pda on the plane and rushed off. however it was taken wasn't really going to help me now, so i started making plans on replacing the lost equimpment and information.

a round of applause appeared in the plane as we touched down. supposedly the pilots of the local dominican airlines are not the steadiest flyers, so refief and clapping when landing are customary. unfortunately, there had been no tips and nothing turned in despite the threat of searches at customs when we landed, but while we were getting off the plane, the attendant up ahead made a promising hand gesture. we were standing in first class when he produced the red folder and had me open it to check it. i immediately removed a fitness magazine that wasn't mine, and the attendant handed it to a passenger sitting in the row in front of us. i was told that the passenger was deaf, so he didn't hear the announcements. i was elated to have my laptop back and the attendant had promised there would be no repercussinons if it was voluntarily returned, so i didn't bother asking any questions, but i could hear another attendant asking the first how the passenger really came into possession of my things.

a small group of men in colorful hats greeted us with lively music and a "thanks for your tips" sign as we walked down the hall towards immigration. i filled out and purchased the required tourist card for $10, was quickly processed through immigration, and waved through customs. a crowd of taxi drivers waited for us outside, and as promised, the voramar driver was there with my name on his sign.

salvador was very friendly and provided me with interesting information as we drove to sosua from puerto plata. we arrived at the voramar in probably less than 30 minutes. the ride was free and saved me a $15us fare that most airport taxi drivers charged, but salvador disappeared before i could give him a tip and i never saw him again.

i had hoped to change my reservation to only a few days, but instead paid for the length of my trip in advance to fulfill my reservation at the manager's request. i had a great rate of $30us per night including fees, so it was no big deal even though i knew i wouldn't be using the room every night. the room had a safe with a key based lock, but was not big enough for my compact-sized laptop. there was no phone, no fridge, and the bathroom faucet leaked, but otherwise the room seemed decent for the price.

i grabbed a few things including a map i printed from online and found my way to the sosua palace. i initially walked past it which i realized when i saw the europa, so i backtracked and found it hidden up an unpaved dirt road. i didn't know i had found it until i asked the name of the building from a lady that was about to walk in.

a small group of men were chatting with a few ladies when i entered in the late afternoon. they were friendly and greeted me. i immediately recognized soronji from photos posted on various websites. the second i recognized but couldn't recall her name, it turned out to be mercedes. the third i didn't reconize at all, this was jahaida.

i was very surprised by the palace, it was very unlike what i had expected. besides being unmarked outside, there was no bar, no restaurant, and no office nor reception desk. i suppose i could have known about this if i read more closely about the palace beforehand, but you tend to assume things regarding hotels when you've traveled somewhat frequently. they had what looked like it could be very small bar if they spent a lot of time fixing it up, but it was simply a small lounge area for the guests and any ladies that happened to be around.

i hung out for a while, talking a little bit but mostly listening. when the men started to disappear, the ladies started to turn their sights towards me, asking if i wanted a chica for fiki-fiki (fee-kee fee-kee). none of the three really appealed to my particular tastes, but i wanted to start the trop off right so i debated between the three in my head for awhile.

mercedes looked like the most fun of the bunch, i found her face to be attractive, but her stomach stuck out slightly and was somewhat of a turn-off. soronji's face looked better in person than in the photos, but she was 5 months pregnant and it was obvious. jahaida was the skinniest and looked pretty when she smiled, but her staight face looked a bit masculine to me and she was perhaps too skinny.

mercedes disappeared before i decided, so the obvious choice seemed to be jahaida. soronji must have known because she then got close where she whipped out her left breast from her shirt and sexually flicked out her tongue. at close range, her stomach disappeared, so soronji would successfully sell me on a happy hour, the dominican term for a threesome for 1000 pesos or $28us each, twice what i could have negotiated for a happy hour according to a regular i spoke with later.

we stepped outside where we caught two motos back to the voramar hotel. the rate for that distance should be about 20-30 pesos, less than $1 us, but i gave them 50 pesos each not sure of what to pay yet. the man at the desk requested their ids, the one and only time ids were requested from ladies i brought back, perhaps because it was still daylight out and other guests were around. the rest of my female companions were brought in the late evening. i did see they collected them from other guests in the daytime as i saw where they were placed while i was sitting down when i checked in.

soronji's pregnant body was not the best to look at, but she had a highly talented tongue and gave an incredible bbbj. jahaida kissed me while soronji climbed on top. i was only planning on a bj from soronji, but she was already up there and working away. we soon switched condoms and soronji went to the bathroom while i climed on top of her friend. jahaida was not really into the sex or was too inexperienced, so i didn't think too much of her. i climbed off jahaida after a stretch of relatively monotonous sex, at which point soronji pulled off the condom and started in with another round of an excellent bbbj. she attempted to get me off with her mouth and hand, and nearly succeeded, but unfortunately was unable. i didn't want to enter soronji again, so i slapped another condom back on and started back into jahaida. i worked my way to an orgasm to which jahaida had little emotional response. we all got dressed again after being in the room for about an hour and i paid the ladies their 1000 pesos each. we caught a couple motos back, soronji got dropped off on the way while jahaida and i returned to the palace. no one was around, so i rounded the corner and walked down the street in search of a restaurant.

i passed a number of small bars on the way. at one of the larger ones, i met a lady with a pretty face named sophia who waved me down as i was walking. she had a little bit of a stomach, like it mattered after having had sex with a lady 5 months pregnant not too long before, but she was still attractive. i took note of the name of the place, the merengue bar, and promised sofia i would come back to talk to her later.

i didn't have to walk long before i reached the end of the block where i recognized a restaurant whose name i recalled as being well recommended. i walked up the steps of the morua mai where i was greeted and taken to a seat. another young gentleman and his gorgeous young date were seated near the entrance, but most of the guests seemed to be what we would probably call "normal" tourists. for dinner, i ordered some french onion soup and spaghetti bolognese. the soup was topped with a cheese covered roll, and the spaghetti was served along with bowls of additional sauce and a dish of parmesan cheese. near the end of my dinner, a couple of other young ladies came into the restaurant where they were seated within my sights at about 2 o'clock. the taller of the two had a beautiful face and a was almost overly well endowed. we exchanged glances, but i didn't see her smile until i was getting ready to leave. i wasn't uncomfortable with approaching ladies in relatively nice restaurants, so i just hoped that i would see her again in my 8 day visit.

i started walking back and received a number of glances and smiles, but the ladies were relatively few and i didn't see many that particularly caught my fancy. sophia was still hanging around and came to near the sidewalk when i was walking by. another lady with a more beautiful face and what appeared to be a better body sat staring at me with her mouth open next to where sophia had vacated her seat. sophia caught me looking back and mentioned that the other girl was her sister. i chatted with sophia for another minute before moving on, waving to the both of them as i walked off. i soon found a moto and caught a ride back to the voramar hotel where i plopped down on the bed to catch up on some needed rest before the night's festivities.

i got back up around 10:30pm to get dressed and ready. the roads leading to the high caribbean disco (referred to by most as high caribe) were dark, but i still walked them and arrived within about 10 minutes. a group of taxi drivers were gathered in front of the club. i walked past them and up to the opening where a young lady collected 50 pesos (a little over $1 us) for a cover charge.

at shortly after 11pm, the club was still relatively empty. a few ladies and gentlemen were rep001tered here and there, but there was still plenty of space to walk, talk, and dance. i walked around to explore the place. a large part of the room consisted of a dance floor that was in the center. a short distance to the right were some steps that led to a small balcony level and the dj booth. two large bars could be seen ahead and to the right past the stairs, while a smaller bar was visible to the immediate left. between the small bar and the bar ahead was a bride spanning part of a pool that continued outside, with exits near both ends of the bridge leading outside. a few chairs and tables were set up outside around the pool. the restrooms were on the left side, just past the exit near the small bar. another small bar beneath a gazebo was located in front of the right side exit, and to the right of this was a covered area containing a small restaurant and bar. a large illustrated menu took up a large portion of the wall between bottles of booze and the entrance to the kitchen.

tattoo (not his real name), a guy that i met earlier at the sosua palace arrived and we spent some time talking about various countries we have visited. the disco started filling up as we talked. there were attractive ladies here and there, but one blond in particular caught my eye. tattoo didn't see anyone that really interested him, but he talked and hung around with one lady he knew well from past trips and regularly provided him with a pleasant time.

the young blond lady and i exchanged glances and smiles as tattoo and i continued talking. in my opinion, she was very clearly the most precious jewel of the club so far for the evening, so i approached and introduced myself. jenny and i clicked immediately, and soon found ourselves drinking together and dancing on the dance floor. she had a bubbly personality with a permanenent smile fixed to her face and often let out cute girlish shrieks. she was very sexual while dancing, we often kissed and spent most of our time grinding rather than dancing in any manner appropriate for a younger audience.

we broke for some air and more beers after a while. jenny was drinking a beer and only slept a short distance away from me when another lady that had tried to propostition me earlier tried to cut in. she had stopped me earlier in the evening while i was exploring the club, and i excused myself saying i may talk with her later...well she interpreted now as later and didn't seem to care much that i was with a lady much more friendly and attractive. i was polite at first, but this one was persistent and jenny started to get upset, so i had to almost get up and walk away before she left us alone.

we danced for a short while longer near the table we had grabbed before i asked jenny if she wanted to come back with me to the voramar. she happily agreed and we left without discussing the price. the moto got us there within a couple minutes where the night manager unlocked the door and let us in without checking id.

the sex that followed with jenny was incredible, she was enthusiastic and passionate with lots of dfk and a great bbbj. we made love twice within a couple hours before falling asleep in each other's arms. jenny was a perfect ending to my first day in the dominican republic.

vladimir

p.s. send me a private message if you want a map of sosua. i tried to attach it, but the dimensions are too big and i can't resize it without keeping the small text legible. comments/suggestions appreciated.

Gpiper
01-22-04, 01:42
www.sosuapalace.com is under construction right now.

Ford
01-22-04, 23:22
Vladimir wrote:
....so I slapped another condom back on and started back into Jahaida. I worked my way to an orgasm to which Jahaida had little emotional response.

Don't be offended, I've plowed these fields twice before and the only way to get any reaction from Jahaida is if you put on a hard hat, a Galeton full face-shield and use a pneumatic jackhammer!

I worked this girl like pizza dough once for nearly two full hours and she had this expression on her face the entire time like she was making out her grocery list.

Great report though, thanks!

Cheers

Gpiper
01-23-04, 00:43
Vladimir: And I thought my posts were informative! Great job and please keep posting! PS- So Soronji is 5 months pregnant now! I wonder if it was a tourist monger or a DR boyfriend who knocked her up?! I am curious. I wonder if she even knows! Well I know it's not mine, as the last time I boned her was 9/02! She was a great lay, and gave a fantastic BBBJ before the session heated up, and an out of this world BBBJTC at the end. Of the hundreds of ladies that have blown me, I would rate her in the top ten performance wise!

Vladimir
01-23-04, 01:10
Thanks for the comments Gpiper and Ford! Send me a message if you ever want to hook up or would like a copy of the maps I made, they are too big to upload.

Here comes Chapter 2

Vladimir
01-23-04, 01:13
BTW, I didn't know any usernames/handles, so I made them all up.

Chapter 02: Bar Hopping with Tattoo and Maxx

Jenny still looked beautiful when we woke up. We were playing around in bed when she rolled on top of me and started getting heated up. Our play turned into another passionate lovemaking session in the morning which lasted about an hour. We layed in bed for a while where she brought up the topic of what type of place "High Caribe" was. She wanted to make sure I knew I hadn't swept her off her feet with my charm alone, so I reassured her that I knew the ladies were there for the money. We both then got up and got dressed. Jenny got made back up like she was getting ready for another date.

We still hadn't spoken about money so I initially gave her $50 US. She said something about $100, but I pretended not to understand. She then asked for $20 more. I gave her $10 and she seemed happy with that. As we walked by the Voramar pool, a couple men were staring at Jenny which she seemed to really enjoy. She tried not to make it too obvious, but it was apparent she was interested in hooking up more clients. I told her she could go talk to them if she wanted, but she said it was OK, she would wait for me tonight if I wanted to see her again or she would find those guys or another client if I didn't. She had the perfect working lady mindset.

She walked out to the room, but she was thirsty so we walked back to the bar near the pool to get her some orange juice. She was trying to be sly, but I could easily see her fishing for interest with cute little smiles which would come my way when I looked up. After the drink, we walked back out to the road.

I went back to the room while she went to catch a moto just in case she changed her mind and really did want to talk to the other men. I was very happy and satisfied with Jenny, and didn't mind if she wanted to get more business. After getting the room and some of my personal effects in order, I headed back out and walked into town.

I stopped by the Sosua Palace where I met Oneida, a lady I recognized from photos. She was fairly attractive, but not enough to get me to take her back to my room at the time. Mercedes and Soronji were also there along with a few of the guys including Tattoo, Maxx and Safado. All of the gentlemen I met were mostly from New York.

I didn't get a lot done this day, it was mostly a day for relaxation. I walked around the small town getting better acquainted with it, ate food, and visited the beach. I made mental notes of where the internet cafes, ATMs, markets, and smaller bars were. I ate at a small place specializing in Italian food where I ordered Penne pasta with onions and bacon in a tomato based sauce. I thought it was filling and delicious, but I'm a poor food connoisseur, so don't put too much faith in any of my food recommendations. The gentleman running the place also gave me a shot of some kind of drink for digestion. I'm not sure what it was, but it sounded like he was calling it "marijuana".

In the early evening I was walking by the Merengue Club where I let one of the men working outside pull me in. I entered with the intent of checking all the ladies out and maybe talking to Sophia or her sister, but the man that led me in called a specific lady over as soon as I was seated. I have no idea why he called this particular lady over, I was not attracted to her, I was put in a position where I'd have to turn her down after she was specifically called over, and I never asked to be seated with company. I ordered a drink while this lady and several others I wasn't attracted to tried to capture my attention. I mostly kept to myself, but smiled to Sophia when she walked around behind me. I stayed in the spot for a short while longer while the ladies continued to try to talk to me, but I paid my bill and walked to the other end of the bar when I got annoyed by the ladies starting to ask if I'd buy them drinks when it should have been obvious I wasn't really interested in their company.

While I was walking to the other end of the bar, the man that led me in asked if anything was wrong. I responded a bit sharply that I didn't ask him to arrange company for me. He shrunk back a little and I continued to some open seating at the end of the bar where I wasn't right in the middle of a bunch of ladies. I spent a few minutes checking the place out. Most of the people were sitting on the barstools surrounding the large bar that takes up a good portion of the large space here. The restrooms were in the back right corner past some tables and a pool table. The back left area had some space which looked like it could be used for a dance area, but it wasn't at the time.

I got distracted when Sophia walked by again and invited her to a drink. I was tempted to spend some private time with her, but I was still hesistant seeing her body up close, I was hoping to find a lady with a tighter body. Sophia also had a "solidness" about her that was slightly reminiscent of a masculine build. I didn't question her sexuality, but the thought still bothered me a bit. I spoke with Sophia a short while longer before continuing my walk back towards the Voramar.

On the way there, I was waved down in front of a place called Yuby's restaurant. The lady introduced herself as Yuby. She was a little older, probably in her 30's, but she was pretty and work a black top that accentuated some very nice cleavage. I came in to order a drink and talked with her for a short while. While there, I looked at the menu which seemed very basic and uninteresting. I asked Yuby about the restaurant and she told me she didn't own it, but that it was named after her. I wanted to take Yuby back with me, but it was apparant that she was running the place and they wouldn't be closing until late at night. Yuby seemed to indicate some interest in spending more time with me, but I wasn't really sure when, where, and how we would work this out. A customer came in to order some food shortly thereafter, so I waved goodbye to Yuby while she was stuck cooking food in the kitchen.

I spent a bunch of time in my room until I was ready to go back out at night. I walked down the dark street until a moto came by to pick me up. I had walked by a place called the Blue Dolphin which I thought was a strip club, so I had the driver take me there. I told him to wait briefly while I took a look inside. It looked more like a small resort hotel. I couldn't hear any music and there were only a few people standing at a bar I could see in the distance, so I left and hopped back on the bike where I had the driver take me to the D'Latino's Club.

The description I got from the gentlemen at the Sosua Palace was that the D'Latino's Club was a nice pickup location, but was a very small place that was uncomfortable and packed. When I arrived at 11:30pm, the place was still somewhat empty, but fortunately they don't charge a cover charge like High Caribe. I ordered a White Russian and sat for a while to scope the place and see if it picked up. The location of this place seems unusual. D'Latino's Club is on the second story of a building a generic entrance between Alf's Internet Cafe and Tours on one side, and a music shop on the other. After walking the short flight of stairs, you enter a doorway to your right to see a relatively small room with bar stools and tables surrounding a small dance floor. You start off in the corner of the room and can see the single bar on the opposite wall with the men's restroom in the opporsite corner past the dance floor. The ladies restroom is to your right past some couches, and there are also some couches in the corner if you walk straight ahead from the entrance. There's not much to the place beyond that.

An overweight but friendly lady soon asked to sit with me and I accepted. She hung her leg over mine and we talked for a while over a beer that I bought for her. She tried to talk me into taking her back to my room, but I wasn't interested in her. I soon got bored and decided to check out some of the smaller bars, maybe pop in to Merengue and check out Sophia or her sister. The lady I was with asked for a gift before I left, but I declined to give her anything. Tattoo and Maxx were walking up just as I was leaving. I told them that the place was empty, but since there was no cover I suggested we go up again just to take a look. They seemed surprised that it was this slow at this time. We only stayed for a few minutes before leaving.

On the way out we finally passed by two attractive ladies coming up while we were walking down. I was taken aback by the one with the nicer body and dark toned skin, so I hardly noticed the other, but both Tattoos and Maxx said they were both attractive. We continued walking to stop by some of the smaller places.

I pointed out Sophia when we passed by the Merengue Club. Both of them thought she was attractive. I mentioned the sister looked even better, but that I didn't see her this evening.

I spoke of Yuby while we were walking. Maxx recognized the name and said she had a horrible reputation for scamming men and that her clothes hid some ugly scars on her body. According to what she had read, Yuby was well known among the DR regulars. He believed her to be married, but still making arrangements to go with men to their rooms where she would take their money, but complain of stomach pain or find another way to shorten the sex if not get out of it entirely. It seemed very unlike the friendly lady I had met earlier, but then again the best scammers usually come across well. All of the personal details he knew matched, so I had no question we were talking about the same lady.

We eventually came to the restaurant, so I indentified it to Maxx and Tattoos who had never been there. Yuby saw me and came outside. I stepped up to her to say hi, but told her we were on our way to the disco. As we continued walking, Maxx commented that he now understood why there was so much talk about Yuby, he thought she was really attractive. I mentioned it was probably unlikely, but that I would consider trying my own luck with her. Maxx was interested in that, he wanted to hear some personal confirmation if she was really that bad because he found her attractive.

It started to rain, so we quickly found some motos to take us to the High Caribbean. We paid our cover and walked inside where we hung around for a while, but we all were somewhat disappointed in the selection. Jenny was there, and they thought she was attractive, but besides that we saw relatively few ladies that stood out from the moderate number of ladies available. Tattoos seemed most interested in a Haitian regular that he knew while Maxx expressed interest in seeking out a regular from a smaller bar that we was trying to develop a "special" relationship with. Jenny bumped me a couple times while walking by and smiled to me, so I said hi to her but didn't express interest in hooking up again. It wasn't long after that she got another gentleman on the dance floor. I watched them for a while, she was hardly all over him as she was with me the previous night, but he looked enraptured regardless and Tattoos commented that she had a sure thing.

With the selection appearing to have reached it's peak but nothing standing out, I decided to head back to D'Latino's for the lady I saw while we were leaving. Tattoos remained where he would eventually hook up with his regular. Maxx wanted to hang out for a little longer, but mentioned that he'd probably see me there a short while later. I caught a moto outside, asking how much he was charging for where we were going. His response was whatever I wanted to pay him, so I hopped on and off we went.

I was generally paying 50 pesos which is less than $1.50 US, but generous for a short ride. For some reason I ended up only handing this driver 30 pesos which is still a good rate for the distance. He mentioned that it was 50 pesos and I reminded him that he told me to pay what I wanted. He still wanted 50, but I just said thanks and walked away. I had no problem, but this probably isn't a good idea for the common traveler to get into this kind of money disagreement over such a small amount. For those with money concerns, or those that just really hate the thought of being charged "gringo" prices, my suggestion is to always negotiate a set price, or to tell whoever you are purchasing a service from exactly how much you will be paying if they won't say.

Things had picked up in the D'Latino's Club. It was busy with lots of people, but it seemed like there were a lot more men than ladies. The population also seemed a lot more local than the High Caribbean, where music, ambiance, and a cover charge targeted a more American and European audience. My target was busy dancing with another gentleman, so I walked around. There were two attractive ladies near the front, but they looked professional and hardly smiled. A third petite beauty that looked more Indian than Dominican was standing near the bar, but she didn't seem very friendly either. I ordered a beer, standing next to the petite lady waiting to see if she would take an interest in me or if my target would free up. The petite one never smiled, but fortunately the gentleman that was with my lady of interest eventually disappeared.

Strangely I cannot recall her name, so I'll just refer to her as Ebony. We talked and drank for a while before I invited her back to my place. While we were leaving, she asked how much I would be paying. I mentioned 1000 pesos to which she seemed really surprised. She said she normally charged 2000, but would go with me for 1500 for short time. We agreed and caught a moto back to the Voramar.

Again we came in without an ID check and got to the room where I had a blast. Ebony was very passionate with lots of kissing, a sensual BBBJ, and she was a wild ride. She was tired afterwards, so we both fell asleep forgetting about our short time arrangement.

Vladimir

Serles
01-23-04, 05:51
Help,

I'm looking for a few good massage parlors in Sosua. The "rub and squirt" kind. I'm leaving home here at 9 am to catch an 11:30 am flight tomorrow. Any help would be apprecaited.

Thx.

Dick for Brains
01-23-04, 07:05
Serles,

Head a few feet north from the intersection of Calle Dr. Rosen and Calle Martines there is a decent place on the right side (east side) of the street on Calle Dr. Rosen.

I believe I got an hour massage and f/s for around $15US.

Enjoy,

DfB

Ford
01-23-04, 09:09
FASTEN YOUR SEATBELTS!

Did anyone happen to notice what happened to the published exchange rate of the Dominican Peso overnite!

Reuters News:01/22/2004 Santo Domingo, D R

Dollar quoted at 55 and Euro at 60!

The dollar exchange rate reached record levels today as it was quoted at RD$55 for one by official news sources. The Central Bank announced on Tuesday an increase in the interest rate to be charged by the so-called Ventanilla Lombarda from 45% to 55%, as well as that paid on short-term deposits (Ventanilla de Depositos Remunerados de Corto Plazo) from 15% to 45%. The objective is to reduce excessive money in circulation to contain the depreciation of the peso.

55 to 1!! Are you kidding me?

Bo Bo Rockefeller FORD will be arriving in 16 days!

Cheers

Hoof Hunter
01-23-04, 18:59
Vlad, Gpiper,

I'm laughing at my now really-perverted self.

Correction: Soranji is now 8 months pregnant. Baby's due next month sometime.

How would I know? I got to know her condition very well 3 times this past wkd. And she still gives a hellified BJ too.

Hoof

Vladimir
01-23-04, 22:27
the vladimir chronicles - dominican republic: chapter 03: approached by an englishwoman

ebony got dressed quickly when we woke up. she hadn't been planning on spending the night, but she was still happy with the 1500 pesos we had negotiated. we gave each other pecks on the cheek while she was leaving, then i started getting cleaned up. it was drizzling outside and the prediction was rain over the weekend, so i grabbed an umbrella before heading out.

the weather wasn't good for the beach and i was getting bored with walking around town, so i went to alf's cafe to do some research on some other nearby towns. the capital city of santo domingo would have been nice to see, but at 4+ hours away i decided that would be better off reserved for a future trip. the palace gentlemen had been talking about heading into puerto plata occasionally, i thought that might be a good place to stay. the only recommended hotel definitely open to hobbying that i could find was blackbeard's in nearby costambar. there also seemed to be questions lingering regarding whether blackbeard's was a good place to stay, so i thought it would be a good place to check out for at least research purposes. i also found some information on nearby cabarete and santiago which was 90 minutes away, but i decided to put off the rest of my research for now.

i soon found myself back at the palace where i spent a long time hanging out. soronji, jahaida, and mercedes were there along with the male guests. while we were talking a gorgeous lady walked in, her name was christina, but *******'s photos here identify her as anna. christina would be the only palace regular that i would find of this caliber. a gentleman i'll refer to here as adams described her as one of the palace superstars, the only one currently around with the absense of nilsa and estelle.

i should have taken her at the time, but i was content with relaxing and conversing with the others. tattoo soon took the opportunity and did a happy hour with soronji and christina. i was happy to see someone else take soronji, i didn't feel so perverse afterwards.

while we were all talking i debated on whether i'd take christina upon tattoo's return. she was stunning and there was little else for me to do during the day, but i generally don't like sessions following other gentlemen i know. when they returned about 60-90 minutes later, i sat there debating on what to do. i probably would have taken her, but she seemed a little moody and safado had expressed some interest in taking her up when she returned.

safado lost interest in her when another lady showed up, i didn't got her name. she had darker skin, big eyes, and a nice chest, but i thought her facial features were only average. i waited as he sat there debating, giving him an opportunity to take christina if he chose to do so, but he did decide on the other one. unfortunately for him, she didn't seem to be very interesting in spending some time with him. instead she decided to go home and told him she'd see him another day. we talked a bit more, but instead of taking christina he decided to take a short nap.

when safado left i went to talk to christina. she was friendly, but not in the best mood. it turned out the poor weather was aggravating one of her teeth, and she had left her medication at home. this situation wasn't the best to strike a deal, but with a lack of other things to do, i talked her into coming back to my hotel.

jahaida saw us walking out and came after us while we were about to get on a moto. she wanted in on our deal with another happy hour. i didn't think much of jahaida my first night, and i was already with one of the more attractive ladies i had seen thus far in sosua, so i declined. some spanish between the two followed, then jahaida said that christina wouldn't be able to come in the hotel because she didn't have her id with her. i was sure i could get her in, but with christina's moodiness and jahaida there, i could no longer talk christina into coming back with me. tattoo tried to help a little, but we were still unsuccessful. this conversation was taking place outside where some light drizzle was falling on us, so this got christina even more unhappy so we walked back where i decided to try for her another time. i wasn't too happy with jahaida.

earlier in the conversation, some of the other gentlemen had been discussing massage parlors. many of them were legit, but sylvia's massage was mentioned as one where you could get finished off. sylvia was an older lady, approximately in her late 30's, but they said she was somewhat attractive and had a nice chest. i had vaguely remembered seeing a nice figure while walking by the place the day before, so i decided to check it out.

sylvia's massage is inside of a store that sells clothes and souvenirs. i walked by looking in and saw sylvia. she looked older than i had remembered, so i continued on. the bars were mostly empty and there was nothing else to do, so i walked back where sylvia saw me looking and invited me in. up close and smiling she didn't look that bad, but i still walked around the store looking at the various items she was selling. she handed me a small flyer and mentioned she also provides massages. the price was something like 100 pesos for 30 minutes and 180 for 60 minutes. not sure of what to expect, i opted for 30 minutes. we had to wait about 10 minutes for one of her friends next door to come over and watch the shop.

she gave a nice massage of my back side before offering additional services at about the 20 minute mark. i don't recall the price for the handjob, but it was 650 pesos for a blowjob and handjob, i opted for that. the blowjob was decent, but unfortunately covered. still, the combination of her hand and mouth were very pleasurable, but there were not enough for me to finish at the time. sylvia got more heated as she continued to work me and i played with her breasts, which were in fact nice. she stared at me closer and closer, until she finally started kissing me. i could tell she was getting horny, but she was still holding back. she asked how she was doing, so i told her she was doing great but that i probably wasn't going to come without sex. she said she wanted to, but that the store didn't have good running water and wouldn't be able to clean up. i could tell she was still thinking about it and probably would have if i pressed her, but i just let her continue with the handjob and kissing, she had to stop the blowjob because her mouth was getting tired.

sylvia really wanted to get me off and was a little disappointed that she was unsuccessful. we were probably in the back room a full hour, but she still only asked for the quoted price. i gave her a small tip. she talked about coming to my hotel sometime in the evening where we could finish where we left off. she was busy sunday, but wanted me to come by on monday so we could make arrangements.

i left sylvia's and started walking back towards the voramar. i was hungry, so i decided i'd eat at yuby's if she was there. she was there with what appeared to be her son, so i went into the restaurant and took a seat next to her. i looked at the menu for a long time while we were talking, nothing on it really seemed appealing. eventually i decided on a chicken, rice, and bean dish that was listed under the dominican section of the menu. yuby had to leave for the kitchen to prepare the meal.

she later brought out some lightly seasoned and toasted garlic bread which was very good, but i did not think much at all of the meal that followed, and as mentioned before i am not a picky eater. the meal was a simple plate of white rice served with a bowl of beans that were of the quality of what you'd find out of a can in your local supermarket. the chicken was the most disappointing part, it was somewhat dry and hard, probably cooked earlier and reheated. i finished the meal, but i knew i wouldn't be eating here again. i told yuby i was going back to my hotel. she said she would be working until 11 and then going to work at a nearby bar and asked me to stop by. i told her i would try.

i took a nap at the voramar, then headed back into town later in the evening for some better food. i ended up at pj's where i ordered a blt and some coffee. my order was simple, but i thought it was delicious compared to the mediocre food i had earlier at yuby's. i was now ready for action, so i headed over to the merengue club to look for sophia or her sister.

the sister was there so we sat together. her name was jocelyn. her stomach and thighs were a little big now that i got a good look at her, but she still had a beautiful face with lots of freckles that i had not noticed before. she seemed really happy to be sitting with me. i asked where her sister was, and she said sophia was supposed to be there, but probably changed her mind because of the light rain. we talked for a while longer before i invited her back to the hotel.

jocelyn seemed to really take a liking to me. she asked many probing questions as though she was gauging my potential as a boyfriend. the sex was excellent of course. she gave a wonderful bbbj, but it was too short. most of the time she wanted to kiss and have sex, so i obliged. she was tight and felt very nice and really got into the sex, scratching my back, biting me, and leaving a small hickey. she seemed to be marking her territory.

jocelyn wanted to know what i was doing the rest of the evening, so i told her i'd probably hang out at high caribbean or d'latino's or both. she asked if she could come with me to the high caribbean, disclaiming that she only wanted to check it out and wouldn't hold me to spending more time with her, so we got dressed and walked over.

it was still early for high caribbean so there weren't many people there, and true to her word, jocelyn only stayed a short while before leaving. i drank and walked around while i waited for more people to show, but unfortunately i didn't see many ladies i was interested in. there was one gorgeous light-skinned brunette i saw with an excellent body, but she was already taken by the time i first saw her with someone she appeared to already know well. i met another darker toned lady named alesandra with a nice lean body but small breasts. her face was pretty, but didn't stand out too much. i talked to her a little but decided to move on and keep her as an option.

a moderately attractive blond finally approached me while i was standing outside by the pool. she spoke to me in english, and it turned out that she was from england. her name was emma and she invited me over to a table to have a drink.

i spent a decent amount of time talking to emma. she told me she had lived in the dominican republic for 7 years, but was thinking of returning to england. she said she felt nervous about going back because she had established a place for herself in the dr, but that there really was not a great future working as a prostitute. i had gathered from our conversation that she thought i was green to the scene of sex travel, so i just played along. eventually she brought up the idea of coming back with me to my hotel. she quoted 2000 pesos for short time. i knew this to be high, but i figured she regarded herself a higher class and worth the addtional money. i also had few other options, and thought the idea of being with my first english lady in the dominican republic of all places was a novel idea. i accepted, so we headed outside to catch a moto to the voramar.

when we were let in at the voramar, i thought i overhead her saying something along the lines of just getting to the dr and being on vacation to the night manager. it seemed strange, but i didn't pay much attention to it. there were some other things she had said earlier that led me to believe she wasn't being completely honest and that i should keep my guard up.

in the room i told her she reminded me of an actress, which she did, and she immediately responded with meryl streep. i did see the resemblance. she got cleaned up before asking for her money up front. i was hesitant, to which she responded with a little speech about trust. the funny thing is, at the disco she was telling me not to trust anyone, but now she was ok to trust. paying up front is often considered a bad sign, but i didn't think she was going to run and we established a decent rapport, so i went ahead and paid.

she started off with some light brushing of the top of my body using her breasts. she seemed really proud of her "unique" technique. it was enjoyable but wasn't too special. she didn't know that i had this done to me plenty of times before and that it was a relatively common practice in some massage parlors.

before giving a blowjob, she mentioned that i should always use condoms, but then went down on me bareback. her blowjob technique was a little different but enjoyable, she concentrated mostly on the tip rather than taking in the whole shaft.

she then climbed on top where she started riding and moaning. her performance was enthusiastic, but to me seemed obviously fake and even funny with the alcohol in me. we had sex in a few positions for a while, and i could tell she was trying hard to make me come, but the transparency of it all was somewhat of a turnoff. i was getting bored of the sex, so i eventually stopped, blaming the alcohol i had earlier for my decreased sex drive.

emma was nice and pleasant, but not someone i'd recommend to take back to the room unless like me you just want to do a blond lady from england in the dr. she cleaned up and gave me a small kiss goodbye before leaving.

it was very late now, so i briefly cleaned up before retiring to bed.

vladimir

Bill
01-24-04, 18:05
Yuby has a man that takes care of her and lets her work and run the restaurant and the bar next door. She gave me a great lap dance and her ass on my woody felt great. This was during and after I bought her a couple of ladies drinks. I asked her to go with me but she told me she knows too many people in my hotel and said she would go elsewhere with me. I didn't pursue it and wasn't interested in paying for a short time room. I think IF she can be had, it will be a hard nut to crack. Has anyone tagged that azz?

JimmyDR
01-24-04, 19:59
Yuby has a man that takes care of her and lets her work and run the restaurant and the bar next door. She gave me a great lap dance and her ass on my woody felt great. This was during and after I bought her a couple of ladies drinks. I asked her to go with me but she told me she knows too many people in my hotel and said she would go elsewhere with me. I didn't pursue it and wasn't interested in paying for a short time room. I think IF she can be had, it will be a hard nut to crack. Has anyone tagged that azz?


The dentist was the first to tag her back in July 2003. She loves the Puerto Plata Cabanas and with out her clothes, she looks nasty, due to scars from having her baby.

JimmyDR
01-24-04, 20:01
I soon found myself back at the Palace where I spent a long time hanging out. Soronji, Jahaida, and Mercedes were there along with the male guests. While we were talking a gorgeous lady walked in, her name was Christina, but *******'s photos here identify her as Anna. Christina would be the only Palace regular that I would find of this caliber. A gentleman I'll refer to here as Adams described her as one of the Palace superstars, the only one currently around with the absense of Nilsa and Estelle


Christana is her real name and Ana was her stage name.

Vladimir
01-25-04, 07:04
The Vladimir Chronicles - Dominican Republic

Chapter 04: I Swear They Looked Much Better In Person

It was raining when I woke up, so I hung out in the room for a while, waiting until it subsided before I went out. I was getting bored with Sosua. The weather left little reason to go to the beach and I wasn't getting numbers to make better use of daylight hours. (In retrospect, I really should have gotten a phone early and taken down numbers for early dates) Most of the stores were closed and the streets were mostly empty since it was Sunday, so with little else to do, I headed to the Palace again. As I walked up the street, Christina was leaving but said she'd be back in 30 minutes. Jocelyn from Merengue Club was the only person there and she was surprised to see me and that I knew about the place. She was flirtatious and gave a little jealous act, saying that she wanted to spend more time with me but that I was probably going to be busy with other ladies. She was waiting for one of her friends who was upstairs with a client, so I excused myself to go get some food.

I again walked to the other end of town where I got a inexpensive meal of tacos at La Roca. They had some great specials on their large and varied menu, but I just wanted something quick and easy. Fresh lettuce, tomato, and cheese filled the shell, but most people would probably think the meat tasted like a fast food taco. They were good enough for me and a good deal at 100 pesos.

On the way back, I ran into a gentleman I met earlier at the Palace who I will refer to here as Nigel. Unlike most of the others, Nigel was from the west coast. He had also come in from Santiago, and had good things to say about the hobbying scene there. As we neared the Palace, we ran into some more gentlemen. As they were finishing up their conversation, Christina rode by on a moto, turning up the street towards the Palace. I excused myself from the others, mentioning that my target date had arrived.

The weather was still bad, but Christina was better since she had taken medication and Jahaida wasn't around to screw things up for me. She had less makeup on and was much more casually dressed today than when I first saw her, but she still looked beautiful. I invited her back to the room with me, but she said she was still uncomfortable, and mentioned her friend Nilsa having a problem there. As an alternative, she invited me to spend time with her at the Palace. On-site rooms were available for 100 pesos (later found out it was 200). No management was around at the Palace, so we just walked upstairs to an open room on the third floor.

I didn't bring a condom, so Christina disappeared to find one. I looked around the room checking out the view and furnishings. It was very nice for a short-time room. I'm sure it got rented out as a regular room when needed. We talked for a long time when she got back since there didn't really seem to be a time limit. The time I spent with Christina was excellent, she gave a wonderful BBBJ and looked and felt very nice. She wasn't the most passionate of my dates, but her beauty well compensated to make her one of the better sessions of the trip. Afterwards, we went downstairs where I payed 100 pesos, than 100 more to a young teenage boy who supposedly collected for the short-time use of the rooms when no one else was around.

I headed to the Internet Cafe where I did some research on Santiago and picked up a few more things on Puerto Plata and Blackbeard's Resort in nearby Costambar. After I finished, I headed back to the Sosua Palace and knocked on Fantasy's door.

I was considering packing up and heading to Puerto Plata today, but I was concerned about how the bus would fare if a storm hit. In a conversation with Fantasy, he also mentioned that he thought many of the ladies would be coming to Sosua to see a Sergio Vargas concert, a very popular band in the DR. I thought a popular concert might make the High Caribbean a poor choice to hobby on this evening, but Fantasy and some of the other gentlemen believed otherwise, so I decided to stay in Sosua until tomorrow and try my luck at the concert.

I walked over to a recommended restaurant nearby called Atlantic Blue where I ordered some thin-crust pepperoni pizza that I thought was delicious. Afterwards, I returned to the Palace again where Jocelyn, her friend Oneida, and a couple guys and some young boys were hanging out.

Oneida soon started coming after me much more aggressively than she had previously, possibly a competitive lady thing with her friend. She got very close to me, kissed my neck, pulled out a breast from her shirt, and did other seductive gestures in view of her friend and the kids that were around. I didn't respond much, but I didn't stop her either. Jocelyn had strange expressions on her face, either from Oneida coming after me or because I wasn't pulling away from Oneida, or both.

I never agreed to take Oneida out, but that didn't stop her. She took my lack of refusing her advances as a yet and ended up dragging me out of the Palace. Jocelyn looked even more surprised that I wasn't resisting more strongly and ended up leaving.

It had been lightly raining while we were there, but it got heavy while we were walking towards the road. We eventually caught a moto, but both ended up very wet. We entered the Voramar without any problems and dried ourselves off in my room.

Oneida performed well with a BBBJ and good sex, but her breath was a problem. She was licking me all over and I could smell it. Fortunately it wasn't strong enough to turn me off, but it did concern me and made the session less enjoyable. I kissed her bet felt uneasy about it.

After Oneida left, I rested up then headed to the High Caribbean early to see the talent as the ladies walked in. The cover charge for the event was 350 pesos. It was already somewhat crowded when I got there, with many people seated in additional chairs they had brought out for the concert. I walked around looking at the crowd, many of the guests were dressed more formally and there the population was generally older. I saw a few beautiful ladies, but they were well entrenched in seats in the crowd and didn't appear to want to lose them.

Many people were left standing, but there were a few seats here and there that didn't have a view of the stage set up for the band. I ran into one of the managers at the Voramar, Fantasy, and Nigel, but other than that I didn't see anyone else I knew. Most people just sat in their seats talking to friends. Few ladies appeared to be looking for dates, and I didn't find much attraction in those that were. Around 12:30am, the concert finally started. The band was good and they played the crowd well. Most people were having a wonderful time, but the music and scene wasn't my particular cup of tea without a lady by my side and as I had suspected, the concert had a negative impact on the date finding potential. Around 1:30, I decided to head over to the Latino Club.

Unfortunately the selection was sparse at Latino, there were plenty of people, but the ratio of men to ladies had sharply risen. I only saw two ladies in the whole place that were acceptable and unoccupied. One was a tall sexy lady with very dark skin and a great body, but only an average face. The other was a short, light-skinned brunette. The tall lady was more attractive, but she seemed much more interested in dancing that finding a date. She hardly payed attention to anyone other than her friend and blew off a few guys that approached her to dance with her. I drank and walked around for a long time, uncertain on whether I was attracted enough to the other lady, but she finally appoached me and we sat down to talk.

The short lady's name was Jessie. She looked nicer up close, at least until she smiled to reveal some missing teeth. There was no one else available and Jessie was touchy-feely in a way that suggested a great session, so I stuck around with her. She introduced me to her older sister working there who was friendly but not attractive. We hung out for a while just drinking and talking, and me looking at the tall lady dancing out of the corner of my eye.

Jessie also gave a little possessive act, insisting on coming with me when I went to wait in line for the restroom. At one point I tried to go when Jessie went to the bathroom and her sister insisted that I wait. It was very annoying, but Jessie appeared very shortly thereafter before we could get into an argument.

Despite the bad smile, I figured Jessie was my only viable option for the night so I brought up the subject of her coming back with me to my hotel. I brought up the subject of payment, to which she replied that she would be happy with whatever I wanted to give her. It sounded like a good deal to me, so we caught a cab back to the Voramar.

The brighter room lighting brought Jessie's appearance down further. Besides the teeth, she had small tits and scars over various parts of her body from a motorcycle accident. Even though I could feel the scars, I had a good time with the lights off as she gave a great BBBJ and performed very well during sex. Afterwards she talked as though I was special and wanted to see me again. I didn't intend to, but I told her I didn't know what I was going to do because I wasn't one to make plans. She continued acting like she wanted to be my girlfriend, at least until I went to pay her.

She was already dressed by now, we had agreed on a short-time session which was all I wanted. I handed her 1000 pesos to which she frowned and said she charged 2000. I told her that she didn't tell me 2000 pesos beforehand, to which she replied that she didn't quote a price. I reminded her that what she actually said was that she'd be happy with whatever I gave her. She then said she would take 1500 pesos and that she needed the money for her kids and other various reasons. I relented and gave her the 1500. The price itself didn't bother me because she did perform, but I felt that she had been intentionally deceitful.

After I gave her the additional 500 pesos, she again said that she hoped to see me later, but at this point I told her directly that I wouldn't be seeing her. She seemed saddened that I wasn't as friendly now and asked that I not be angry with her, but just said sorry and left when she realized that I wasn't happy with what had just transpired.

I got ready for bed, thinking about how I definitely wanted to get out of Sosua tomorrow.

Vladimir

Gpiper
01-26-04, 03:33
Vladimir: If you're not a senior member yet, you should be soon! BTW: I had a similar experience with Sylvia back in 02! Prices were the same in pesos, she wouldn't do bbbj, only cbj, and she gave me the same excuse for not having fs.

Gpiper
01-26-04, 03:38
Bil: IMHO: I'd stay away from Yuby. She's bad news. She played me for a fool back in 02 (3 times she didn't show for planned get-togethers), and is about as insincere as any girl I met in Sosua.

A Toda Maquina
01-26-04, 05:57
Great report . Vladimir ,I 'm waiting for your Puerta Plata report ., keep me informed on the most economical puntang,from FS ,all nighters etc. I will be leaving for the DR in approx. two weeks.


Thanks , Chango

Al Kikuras
01-26-04, 06:33
Could someone post a pick of Yuby?

Thanks that would be helpful and provide a worthy service to all.

Bill
01-26-04, 07:36
Vladimir,

Your experience in Sosua almost mirrors mine. I also found women with questionable hygiene, and scammy girls that will squeeze you for every peso if you let them. That girl who bumped you up to 1500 pesos tried and succeeded. You must learn to pay the going rates and stick by them. The girl has no recourse, you did not specify a rate. I would have given her 500 max, expecially if I had to fuk her in the dark and feel scars. These girls are taught to ask for unreasonable rates because they are taught this by some guys who blitz in and out of town on their little 3-7 day excursions and don't care what they pay to get their diks wet. You state that it is boring and girls are hard to find in the day time unless you make an appointment that may or may not show. This is what I found also. If you go back to High Caribe, try just heading straight towards the door and push/pull it open and make like you own the joint. The locals do it as well as the expats. They are not charged. I never once paid a cover to get in and was a total newbie. The total package sex tour/vacation is Thailand where I am now enjoying better selection, price and quality in food, lodging, things to do, as well as the girls! I don't blame you for wanting to leave Sosua, it can be quite boring. The DR only has the advantage in cigars. Take care.

Gutter Meat
01-26-04, 18:07
Just returned from a 4 night stay in Sosua . Everything was good , plenty of girls, great exchange rate although it dropped the last day I was there to 42 pesos to $1. It was up to 53 to $1 at one point. Latino club packed every night, high carrib packed Sat night.. It seems the early evening place to hang out before the clubs is in front of Hotel Europa , The Four Roses bar. This place was packed every night. I was there from 8pm till 12 and they had 3 girls dancing on a stage in skimmpy little outfits every night. I hung out one day at the NY shark bar and the place was packed . At the Shark Bar I drank all day , had lunch all for under $10 bucks.Lou is a great host. Checked out the Merengue bar one night , not too much action. Walked into the Blue Dolphin during the day & there was like 3 ugly ones there and about 6 guys sitting around , the same guys I saw last time. I won't be going back to that place , I get the feeling that I should be privlileged to be there the way those tools act in there. There ain't shit to be had at the Blue Dolphin anyways. From my experience , most of the girls didn't want to set the price , so I did at 1000 pesos and this had to be a girl to my liking, what I wanted and how long all made clear before hand. If they said no to 1000 pesos I told them " No problema, otra chica para mi" and walked away and they came right back to me and agreed on the price. Do not , I repeat do not pay before . You pay after and if she doesn't like it tough luck and get rid of her. Once you give her the Money , you just put the ball in her court and she will come up with a bullshit excuse to leave and you will be rushed. I was treated good by the girls I was with so I treated them well too , took one out to dinner etc. Remember , you set the price, not the cockbags on this board that tell us not to pay over a certain amount. Chances are these are the fat ugly bastards that go down for months at a time and are so worried about someone like me thats goes for 4 nights and might pay $10 extra than they do. Remember the girls can ask what ever they want, but we set the price.

Vladimir
01-26-04, 21:56
Chapter 5 on Puerto Plata is posted in the Puerto Plata section. Chapters 6 and later will be posted in Santiago.

Estoy Negro
01-27-04, 11:38
Wait, wait. let me get this right Bil,

Your saying you don't run into scamming women (is that a word...lol) in Thailand? The land of scam, I guess your the luckly one because when you read the Asia boards, guys talk of the scams and thefts all the time.

And I also wanted to thank you for opening my nose, I know I never ran into a nasty woman in DR, but my last trip after reading your posts I ran into a few.

Were of course suppose to leave our NYC way of being when we go to other countries.
First girl, picked her up at a car wash, fine little thing, I know I was going to tear her ass up. This is the only girl I will give an excuse to, she started work at about 10am, I picked her up at about 5:30, she hadn't gone home yet. I suggested my place, she said yes. I always jump into the shower first. I come out of the bedroom & she's already naked, NO SHOWER MY LOVE, WHAT'S UP? STRIKE ONE.

After a short discussion she gets her ass in the shower, then she comes out, I proceed to take photos, then got a hint of smell, STRIKE TWO.

In my mind I said "DAMN BIL", I suggested a shower together so I could make sure she did wash her ass right, DAMN SHE WAS PRETTY, she looked at me like that wouldn't be a good idea, STRIKE THREE.

Then I reverted back to my teenage raw dog days & proceeded to kick her ass out. NO MONEY, NO TIP, NOTHING & if I wasn't staying in a family style, guarded community, I would have kicked her ass out naked. But maturity took over & I took her to the corner for a moto to pick her up.

Second girl: Upon the suggestion of one of my moto buddies, I figured he needed money & I wasn't giving it to him since, I was a little upset from the last girl, let her tip him. He got me a girl. A sexy little girl, damn I'm in heaven. Went to my place and she wanted to get into the shower with me,

I thought, finally I can scream, "THEY ALL DON'T STINK FELLAS" after we finished the shower, we then take photos & I'm ready to put in some work, I took one last sniff test "YES ALL CLEAN," after I did my thing, I figured it was early, we discussed all night, but I figured one more time & I'll take her home and sleep alone, no getting up early or struggling to wake her ass up, since she slepping like she never had any sleep ever. During the second try is when the smell call over me, when I told her to flip over, almost in a blink of an eye my hard-on disappeared, I SCREAMED "DAMN BIL"
(I know your ears were ringing), she asked me what's wrong, I told her get dressed, its over. I started thinking, Thailand is too damn far & takes up to much of my vacation time, no weekend trips there. I decided to sleep on it.

The next day I figured, just go get one of your old friends, that will tell all. Picked Carmen up at her job, told her get ready "its on right now" I said it in spanish, but don't think it has the same ring as it does in english. She doesn't care, she loves sex, she just happened to be getting paid for it. Before we get started I gave her the 120 point BMW inspection, passed, she then told me I must be going crazy & said I had a crazy look in my eye. (She was great as all freaks are, and there even better after they get to know what you like.) She restored my faith in DR, from that point on every woman was spot-less.

THE BIL CURSE WAS LIFTED...lol

PS Jumped on an AA E-saver to Santiago this weekend, weather permitting, I'll be in Santiago, then to POP, maybe Sousa. Back to work monday night.

Ford
01-27-04, 14:45
Vladimir,

I saw that on 01/21/04 you requested that Jackson upgrade you to Senior member status - I'm sure he will as soon as he has the chance.

I want to thank you for posting what is, without a doubt, the most complete and detailed report I have ever read on the "Sosua scene". When any "newbies" throw up one of these messages that read something like "What's Sosua like, where should I stay, what can I expect when I arrive? I'm going to tell them to take the time and read the reports by Vladimir!

Thanks again, real good stuff!

Cheers,
FORD

Jaimito Cartero
01-27-04, 21:24
Vladimir - Very nice reports. I've never been to the DR, but it's on my list of "maybe". It's so much easier to decide to go to a new place when there's good "newbie" reports.

Hoof Hunter
01-28-04, 00:56
Al Kikuras,

Here's a recent pic of Yuby in her shop.

Hoof

JimmyDR
01-28-04, 02:18
Well I just posted my 300th picture in the WSG Events section in the Carribean section!!

Bill
01-28-04, 04:11
Estoy Negro,

No, I didn't say there are NO scamming women in Thailand. How did you arrive at that conclusion? The fact is that there are scammy girls all around the world, but I find much less in Thailand because of the Buddhist mentality, karma thing. And find that there are many more bad girls in Sosua, definitely above the average. I have never been stolen from in Thailand, in over 12 trips, but I don't keep my stuff out to entice either. In Sosua, I had more than a few girls rustling through my vanity storage in my bathroom looking for? And see their eyes roaming for what they can pick up on the way out. Sorry I had to open your eyes to the skank smell of many of Sosua's pro's, but its good to avoid this because we all should know that this is a multiplying bacteria that is causing that stench. Now I know why I woke up in the middle of the night for no reason with a ringing in my ears and said WTF? Lol. In many Thai hotels, there is a hose with a sprayer that is next to the toilet. The girls use it like a firehose to clean their love holes. I have been eating different puzzy for over a week straight now and all I smell is water. We all know water has no smell. I had an overall good time in the DR and am glad I had the time and resources to experience it. Enjoy!

Black Adder
01-28-04, 18:54
FRIENDS, Mongers !

Yesterday I arrived back home from my trip to Sosua, and since you all have given me so much useful information it is to my opinion now time to say thanks and give my (our) experience to help others to get the best out of their vacations. Please forgive me type errors and other faults, I am from Europe, not from the USA.

First, a WARNING !Going to Sosua changes your live. You will never be the same again, it is like a drug, it keeps on screaming untill you come back (ooohh 52 weeks to go).

Because I dont keep a written diary I will do things in a “alphabetical order” so memories can pop up while writing!

Airport.
The first contact with the DR is the airport. Things are easy-going but don’t let any one grab your luggage to carry it to a taxi or bus. They will ask for a small fee and its going quite aggressive. Just shout at them to F*** O** and they will go away.

When leaving the DR the luggage – boys will aggressively pull your luggage from the taxi/bus and put you halfway the row of waiting travelers. It can be handy but can also lead to angry reactions. Think of it.

The customs check your luggage by opening everything in front of everybody. Big laugh to me when my messed up garbage was checked by the nice chica who had to crawl through my collection of durex.

All in = Welcome to German Democratic Republic (DDR, remember!) When flying to the DR I read a book about the Berlin wall and found it again right in Sosua. This workman’s paradise! The people behind a big, guarded wall are told to believe (propaganda) that all the good is inside and evil is outside (maybe they are right !) . Once you want to get out to the bad world you will probably be shot or taken out in a small bus/van so the STASI can look after you and make you return in time. The one time I slipped in I got this frightened feeling of being locked up. The security man threatened us for not having the brace and wanted money. Yeh … f**k o**

Nice to see the beach turn empty around 17 hours because all the prisoners have to queue up in time for the big buffet.

B = Bar
Bars and pubs are just everywhere. Ignore the ones with no chica’s. Just because there are enough of them with chica’s. When you are lucky they run to you once you are in and within a few seconds hands are all over you and behind the bar a erotic dance is starting. Just play the game, enjoy and wait for them to ask if you like fikee fikee. Of course not all the bars are this way. Some bars have the nice dancing chica’s and no offer will be made, guess they do it to attract customers and just because its in their blood. A few recommendations though:

Left to the plutus, I guess its toro or something. Nice girs, salida 300 peso (can be negotioted, my friend got it for free). Right to the cowgirl bar is the same thing. Just walk in, the girls jump on you, play a game, negitiate, pay salida (300) and off you go. Really like the chica in red. Still dream of her !

Merenque bar. More pro’s here. Just take a seat and they run after you. Better to keep on walking so you can select the chica you like most instead of letting them choose you (one they are sitting next to you it is not easy to get rid of them). So walk in, take a walk, and be ready for fun ! No salida.

Voodoo Lounge. 90% of the visitors wearing their all-in braces. Good cocktails but prices going up en down and they try to rip you off for sure. Met a nice Englishman there (ALEX) who drunk a bucket of wodka-red bull without getting drunk. No working girls in there.

Cowgirl bar.Motoconco brought us here because of the chica’s. You can select one girl and go upstairs with her. But the ratio was very bad every day. One can sit there and have no one even looking at you for hours. Boring place as long as the chica <> males ratio is far to the wrong side!

Dicke Hermann is a nice spot to see who is wandering/mongering around or walking to the calypso hotel. And sometimes one can pick up a chica here.. Same thing for plutus. The bar at the hotel central is rather cheap, and also gives an nice glance at the main street. Tora Bora bar is renamed boring boring bar, the bar at yubi’s has really nice chica’s and in the evening hours working girls can be seen there playing their game. The bar next to Europa was full of sad germans (5 males and two girls). Better leave the ladies at home, dear germans !

Oh fuck I can go on about the bars. Find out yourself !

B = beach
The beach is a bit disappointing. Not really the Caribbean look but a small strip packed up with tourists. The bars/stalls can be found under the trees and this thing is hyped up. It is a junkyard! The new york shark bar is just another thing on the junkyard, and so are all bars. Better walk up to the end and stop by the pantera rose or the bar close to it(I guess its 156) and play the game to the girls. I picked up my first chica right there. Be aware, they know how to make the pesos leave your wallet. But lying on the beach and having two dream-girls sitting on the side of your sunbed with fresh pina colada’s (fresh made and delivered in a fresh ananas) is like heaven (dont forget to make a photo of this). Of course the ladies want a pina colada too. What the fuck, it costs 60 peso. Euro is 63 peso !

Barracuda’s
Can be found at the merenque bar. I negotiated 1000 peso, so did my friend. At the short stay hotel (calypso) she was was very passive and changed from a nice, friendly enthousiast chica in a boring not willing lady. When finished she wanted 2000 peso. She said she told me it was 2000. I must have heard it wrong. No I said. She got angry, very angry. Started shouting. Offered her 1200 just to get rid of her. She took the money and got angry again. Did not want me to enter the room and told me i was in big, big trouble. Told her to go away and left the room. Told me to pay 1500, said no you f*&%$ . She ran to the room my friend was in and the same thing there. His chica also wanted 2000 peso and threatened us with big trouble if we did not pay. Told my friend to give her 1200 and kick her out. Angry chica took of her shoes to hit my friend, my chica tried to push me out of the room. Just 5 seconds away from my friend nocking a chica down the man of calypso came to end this problem. Kicked the chica’s out, gave a free round of beers to the calypso crew, two dollars for the calypso man to let him say he is my friend, and wait for things to happen.

Well, nothing happened. No gorilla’s appeared at the capypso, next day we could walk into the merenque if we would have liked it (did not) and from that moment good friends with the callypso crew.

Later the guy told me he watched us earlier buying drinks and cigarettes for the chica’s we brought in earlier, saying we threated them with the most respect, and IF troubles would occur he would talk for us. To be honest I don’t expect any troubles will ever happen. Just throw out the chica and buy a beer for the crew !

Chica’s Beginners and newbies, read this !

In the Netherlands it is easy to find your girl. We do the thing of window-shopping and what you see is what you get. Prices of first-choice girls can’t be negotiated (Amsterdam 50 euro, Alkmaar 35) only negotiable are the less wanted girls (black, older, ugly etc) , the red light districts are clearly recognizable and can be found in Amsterdam, Alkmaar and a few other places. Protection (condoms) are in the price.

What I learded in Sosua is that girls are not allowed to pick up mongers on the streets. Police is keeping an eye on this and so it can happen that the loveliest working girls just pass you without saying anything. And believe me, the streets are full of them! The fun thing is that because of this some tourist don’t even notice what is going on in Sosua (I see, but I am blind). Because ithe scene is (almost) not happening on the streets, only in bars. This brings up the fun part of it. You have to walk around, invite girls to a bar, play a bit of a game (dance, feel, use your hands) and after that the negotiating will take place. This way of working is FUN! Offer a drink, dance, feel, talk (with your hand if you like) and play the game. Believe me this is more fun as the “deed” itself. And negotiations will follow. Sometimes the game is played so well you really ask yourself if she is a working girl or just a nice chica after all. This so more fun than just windowshopping!

Calypso (left the bank with ATM and right Eurodive, eddy’s bar)
This is the short term hotel I spend every evening (because it was close to my not guest friendly hotel).
Rooms cost 250 peso for one hour. Inside it is not clean, I dont trust the condoms that can be found in the rooms, the toilets are breeding new forms of life, the floors are not so clean either and the showers are cold and should be avoided. But … there is a bed, it is within walking distance of the center of Sosua, and after you are finished you can drink presidentes in front of the calypso hotel.

If you can book your vacation in a guest frienly hotel, please so it. If you are captured in an other hotel, or worse, a all in resort, this is the place to be. Accept the lack of cleanness and enjoy the chica you brought in. If you want a real cheap girl, just go to the calypso and drink a beer. They will come to you.

Change. First I changed my dollars at the booth that can be found at the entrance of the beach. Later I found the rate is 1.5 peso better in the small shop at the end of the “main street”. When walking towards the taxi stop near the beach you find a foto shop (that sells durex, postcards etc), a few meters further two change shops at your right hand. The first is the one to be. Good rates for euro’s !
So … don’t just change money, ask around, they differ from day to day, from place to place

Clothing
Clean underwear, socks, T-shirts and these trousers with zippers so you can zip them into short trousers is really all you need.

Couples
Go to a restaurant or the beach and see the fat German with a nice dominican chica. Or a “normal” white bow sitting in front of his meal with this gorgeous chica but he speaks no word spaninsh. All of them have the GFE. Better dont do it if you dont speak spanisch. No one takes notice of someone spending the day with his GFE (be honest, its a hooker). Thats Sosua. No one cares !

Dollars. Best money to bring with you. Because Mr Bush is bringing down the USA economy the US dollar is all-time cheap. Good if you live in Europe! Dollars are accepted everywhere in the DR. A problem is that you cannot walk ito a bank and withdraw a few dollars from your credit cards. You can get pesos with a CC, but with a peso that looses more vale every day, its not a good thing to do. Bring dollars !

Day-Time
Not much going on, unless you watch sharply. Two dominican girs walk the beach for the 5th time in one hour, two nice chica’s walk the streets with no particular direction, 5 chica’s waiting in a bar all looking at you.
Daytime is fun too !

DUREX
Dont trust the elite! Avoid this thing. In The Netherlands all the pro’s bring their own lubricant. But not in the DR. So things go sometimes a bit less “easy”. The damn Durex Elite can stand much and easily breaks. Yes this happened twice to me and that gives me a real bad feeling. No problems going to the toilet so far but still feeling unpleasant about this. Bought in the foto shop Durex extra strong and no problems with this ones, not even the anal thing. So burn your elite and buy extra strong. !

Hotel
Haven’t been in there. Central is, indeed, very central. No comments here.

Hyped up
Some discussions are about Jimmy having personal benefits from things, hyping up specific places and go on. Forget about this. Not important True or not, after reading the forum thoroughly you enter Sosua for the first time and already know what to pay, where to go and what to avoid. Just be thankful for all the time they spent telling YOU where to go and what to do.

I havent been to many “hyped up” places. No palace hotel, no high Caribbean, no shark bar. And I had a great time. You don’t have to go there, there is fun all around! Just stay away from all in prisons!

Negotiating … at the beach stalls:

Paintings, all the same, different colours. Wooden things, t-shirts, towels etc. They are nice, but of course way to expensive. If you want something ask the price and start negitiating somewhere at 25%. It looks madness (they say 7000, you say 1000) but you will win finally if you stick to your 1000 peso. Maybe experienced travelers can do even better. Its all junk there, but you need something to give to friends/relatives when going back .

Notepad & Pen
Beginners and newbies … IMPORTANT !
To avoid problems with negotiations with chica’s take a notepad and a pen with you ! When a chica agrees to go with you for fikee fikee, write down what you agree. Better .. let her write it down. I know it spoils the magical moment but its not love, its prostitution. Dont forget that !

A contract should look like this

Salida 300
Mototaxi 100 (yeah, i know)
Hotel 250
1000 (for the girl)
BAR 500 (if she works behind the bar and you pay the drinks)

IF the girl starts making problems later, show her this again and if she wants more, throw her out!

July
Just this as a tribute to this very friendly chica. Came to us when we where drinking a presidente in front of the calypso short-stay-hotel. Not very handsome, but a warm and friendly girl (3 bambino’s as usual) who did not beg for money (okay finally she asked 20 peso for a piece of pollo). Made an appointment for the next day but could not resist to pick up one in the merengue bar first. When I left the calypso hotel she really showed up with her girlfriend and we felt rather bad to have made an appointment and arrive with another chica. So after one hour of talking and beers I went into the hotel with her and she made me happy with BBBJ and anal, 1000 peso and no begging. Next day another appointment with her, and everybody happy.

Massage
It took 5 or 6 days before we found M&M massage. It is well hidden on a square and the small road sign is easily ignored. Go left by plutus, follow the street until the triangluated square (with internet cafe) , left from the bank you find a square with a bar in the middle. There is M&M hidden behind a small door on the right.
As far as I know (my friend asked for it) the don’t do erotic things. But even not-erotic they are just the best. only 350 pesos is worth every peso. Go ! Do It ! Yes !

Mosquito’s
Bugs and other animals. Haven’t seen them. Al all.. Where are they!

Motoconcho/Mototaxi
No problems, negotiate and go! Only problem is they sometimes walk into a bar with you hoping you will need their services later. And my spanisch is not so good so could not tell them on a friendly way to go away. Make clear it is a single ride! Especially when you go to the capypso hotel and want to walk back!

Beware when you have a chica with you. Motoconcho with prostitute is twice the price. One dared to ask my friend 10 dollars and got angry when he said to go to hell.

Pesos
Going down all the time. I was told it goes up before the weekend, to go down on Monday again

Pina Colada
80 pesos at the beach. Take one fresh ananas, cut away the top, take some of the inside out, pulverize the inside with a knife, fill it with coco-milk, milk, grenadine , crushed ice and rhum and let the most beautiful chica bring it to you sunbed.

Pussy
Bad pussy, smell bad. Yes I share this experience and I am glad I did not throw up. I will keep this horror just for myself but I think the girl was having a period and as soon as I found out I paid her and told her to go away. Cant remember much of her (erased from my memory) but picked her up at the merengue bar.

Second lady from toro (?) left to plutus, had also a smell I noticed after a minute of action. Said I druk to much presidentes en wanted to stop. Because it was a nice and friendly girl I bought her a beer at the calypso bar and gave her 100 pesos for the mototaxi.

Beware of these girls that hit the shower intensively before doing “it”. bad experience. Ruins your day.

Restaurants
In general, cheap, acceptable food.
El Toro : Have been there 3 times. Looks good, nice food, no complaints
PJ’s : Really need to learn how to make spare ribs. Don’t cook the meet ! Breakfast is OK
Morua Mai: Very good breakfast, but the bill I calculated and theirs had a gap of a few hundred pesos. And they did not want to explain. Lots of hidden costs extra except from service and tax. I guess they are just trying to steal money from tourists and therefore should be avoided.

Right to PJ’s (forgot the name). Like the unlimited barbecue on Friday. Ate most of the days in this place. Like all restaurants not very good quality meat, but in general not to bad either and reasonable prices.

Please don’t complain about waiting. Its the Caribbean here! Just find yourself a nice seat where you can enjoy all the action in the streets, but a presidente and wait!
For a sober but good breakfast you can also go to Bogeys (eurodive). 120 peso for a clean, nice breakast with eggs, bread, bacon, ham, coffee,fruit, fresh orange juice.

SOL/The Sun
Beware. The first day on the beach I had only one hour of sun. After this I was red like the divil himself and one step away from total sunburn. Took three days before I could safely go into the sun again. Factor 6 is not safe if it is your first day and if you have a european skin and haven’t seen the sun since september.

Buy a factor 25 and a small 45 and you may survive if you take good care of yourself !

Taxi
At the taxi stops all the prices. Speaks for itself. This taxis would be taken form the road anywhere in Eurpe but in the DR they are luxury!

Water
If you drink water from the watertap, you die horribly and go to hell
If you have ice made from water, you die horribly and go to hell
If you brush your teeth with water from the tap, you die horribly and go to hell
If you eat salad wet from water, you die horribly and go to hell

That what everybody said about the water.

I never have drunk any water from the tap, but brushed my teeth, eaten salad and had ice in all drinks, and I never died and they are still waiting in Hell for my arrival. If you are healthy don’t panic. Just don’t drink from the tap and forget all the other! (this is MY opinion, but its YOUR health. Decide for yourself!)

Probably as soon as I send this to the forum I realize I have forgotten so much. Better find out yourself, bring dollars, pen and notepad and be happy ! If I have spare time I maybe can scan some foto’s, but thats no promise!

Thanks again to all who send their experiences to the forum. See Ya next year!

Regards,

Mr Black & Mr Adder

Gutter Meat
01-28-04, 20:06
Delta Plans Big JFK Expansion:

As part of the plan, Delta said it will begin new service from JFK to Denver; San Juan, Puerto Rico; Santo Domingo, the Dominican Republic and San Diego. Those new services will begin in April, May and June. The airline said more changes planned for after September will be announced later this year

SosuaDoctor
01-30-04, 05:24
Vladimir,

Great posts man. Sounds like you did very well and learn fast. After several trips, you would soon get tired of the sob stories (lies) about needing money for the kids and so on and you would tire of sneaky girls who try to squuze more money out of you after the fact. Like Bil said, ALWAYS agree to the price BEFOREHAND and stick to it. Then you pay AFTERWARDS. If you want to give her 20 pesos for a motoconcho then that is fine. This way, you get the best bang for you buck.

YUBY:
I never slept with Yuby but my friend did and he said she has nasty strech marks. I spoke to her several times when she was managing the roadside bar next to the Europa. I could see how bright she was but she never tried to con me. I think she knew she couldn't.

I am heading back down in a few weeks. Sounds like the going rate is 1000 pesos. Thats 20 bucks and that suits me just fine. I can taste the Dominicana pussy already.

Larry

RearWindow
02-01-04, 08:11
Vladimir & Black Adder,

Great posts! I'm a Boca Chica monger, but really enjoyed the stories. It may not get me to the North, but great reading.

BA , I'll probably see you in Hell, and not from drinking the water, either.

Cheers

ApostropheMan
02-08-04, 04:25
If "home is where the heart is" then I must be in Hell. I arrived "home" from the DR on Jan 24th having been there since the 17th. I've been in a deep depression since I got on the plane "home". They had to put me on the plane at gunpoint! I had already emailed my resignation to my boss from the Blue Dolphin. Good thing he knows my sense of humour. I had an even better time than I planned.

I had done much lurking and had been in touch via email to many before my trip. This was to be my first but defiantly not my last trip to the DR. I actually booked a second week off to return to Sosua before I left. I knew this was my kind of town! I planned on the usual 3 chicas per day, sleep late, fuck all night, 8 days in paradise kind of a trip. Most of that was reality, but not all.

Marco from Rocky's picked me up at the airport. I was 30 minutes early and he was already there! What a great guy! Went back to Rockies and had a couple of drinks to get into relaxation mode.

Rocky's is a great place and if you don't mind basic accommodation I would recommend it with few reservations. After I got settled in I went for a walking tour of Sosua.

I had downloaded maps of Sosua with all the clubs, bars, restaurants, etc… on them but the truth is that Sosua is such a small place you really don't need them. Most of the locals can help you if you can't find something but I had no trouble at all.

The DR really is a 3rd world country. That is to say, forget building codes and safety regulations, as you know them. They do not apply here. The roads have high curbs and huge, deep potholes and the sidewalks are almost impossible to navigate in some places. Add to that the crazy drivers and the dozens (hundreds) of motorcycles and it was worth your life to be careless crossing the street. You do not have the right-of-way!

I managed to find and visit all of the places I had on my list that first day including Latin Club, High Carribe, The Flamingo, Plaza Sosua, The Blue Dolphin and The Palace to name a few. I had a beer at the Palace Saturday Afternoon but not much seemed to be happening. I asked to See John but apparently he was not around. I never did get back there. Perhaps next time.

Although I was staying at Rocky's, I found my home at the Blue Dolphin. Early Sunday afternoon I wandered in and met Steve, one of the owners. He bought me a drink and showed me around. I didn'tget to see the suites then because they were all full. I hung around for a while and met a bunch of well know guys as well as the other owner John. Steve and John were very helpful and generous with there time and in other ways. My trip would not have been as anywhere near as great as it was if I hadn't met them!

Then things fell apart. I met nomad! What a maniac. I owe this guy so large I`ll be buying him Cuba Libres forever. He introduced meto everyone and showed me the inside track on the town. I even ended up seeing his cousin… It's nice to have family.

HEY MAGNUM! Thanks for letting me off so lightly :)

After that my days were pretty routine:

-Get up; eat breakfast at Rocky's or La Roca -Go to the Dolphin, meet Don and the gang, have a drink -Go to the beach, stop at Roger and Mav's Bar and have a drink or three, then on to the Shark Bar. -end up at Siempre Sol, Herman's bar.

(This was my second home. This guy knows how to make you feel welcome. I was there for 6 days in a row and everyday was better.)

-go back to the Dolphin and get the girls. Have a few drinks. Go out to one of the many fine restaurants and then to a club. -go to the hotel….

Repeat often!

Rocky Mtn Man
02-08-04, 22:29
I will not be able to par-take in my March holiday in Sousa due to enexpected work issues. As I have been using this board to gather the info, I felt kind of bad about not reporting on my personal exploits. So, to make amends, I drove down to Spokane and got fucked lastnight. Not for myself mind you, just so I could write a tale for you to read. You can read it in Washington state > Spokane.

I am planning on the DR a bit later in the year. Which is better for Weather, Sept, Oct, Nov, or Dec?

bigred1
02-09-04, 07:58
Hi guys,

Could someone please tell me where on the island is the city of Sosua. I pulled out map an could not find it.

Thanks in advance

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid delays in future reports, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

JimmyDR
02-09-04, 19:17
Hi guys,

Could someone please tell me where on the island is the city of Sosua. I pulled out map an could not find it.

Thanks in advance


Look at Puerto Plata and its 25 minutes from there.


I am planning on the DR a bit later in the year. Which is better for Weather, Sept, Oct, Nov, or Dec?


After October it gets cooler.

Ford
02-10-04, 16:37
Hola mates!

I am writing you from the internet cafe in downtown Sosua once again! The weather is awesome - 86 degrees and clear. I'm sure everyone who is reading this probably wishes they were sitting next to me right now so I'll stop gloating and get right to the information.

Exchange Rate
The current rate is 50 RDP to 1 USD. This is phenomenal however for reasons that I will discuss I feel poorer than I did in the fall when the rate was 36 to 1. Prices are up all over the place! Restaurants and stores have marked up their prices so they wouldný get killed by tourists but instead have seemingly priced the local Dominicans completely out of the market. There isn't a single Dominican national eating or shopping anywhere that I shop or eat.

Sosua Palace
I am not currently staying here but I stopped in yesterday and set up to meet John the owner for lunch today, Tuesday. I know I have been called a shill for the Palace before both here and on the In Search Of Chicas yahoo group but I can't stress enough how anyone new to the Sosua scene should stay in no other place but the Palace. I walked in yesterday around 2.00 PM and the place was absolutely packed with girls! No lie there had to be about 8 different chicas floating around the pool and only two mongers in the courtyard flirting with them. If I wasn't with my novia I think I would have "borrowed" a studio apartment from John for a little r&r after lunch with two or three! (I usually have a big apetite after lunch!) John told me his business is doing absolutely great, and from the look of the new chicas I can see why!

Campo Caribe Club
This is the hotel that I am currently staying at with my novia. Also a really nice place! Large spacious rooms (I'm staying in the entry hotel room/studio) and it is plenty big enough and comes with a stove and refrigerator. It costs $40 per night and the owner/manager Rino Mercuri is a great guy, speaks fluent english and will do anything for you! The complex is huge with a tree lined tropical look and two pools. The lower level pool is absolutely HUGE and would be good for those looking for swimming exercise after chica exercise! The hotel is chica friendly and would be an excellent choice if you have a special chica you want to squirrel away with. Unfortunately the restaurant and bar are being remodeled/repaired so they are both currently closed so I can't make any comments about the service or the food.

REPORT CON'T

Ford
02-10-04, 16:56
Report Continued

Restaurants

I arrived tired and hungry on Sunday night, scooped up my chica and raced to the hotel so I didn't have a chance to exchange any money before the exchange banks closed. I took my novia over to the Mora Mai and told the waiter if it would be any problem excepting dollars for dinner because I didn't have any pesos.
"Oh, we ONLY except dollars now senor, I guess you didn't know!" Whhhhhhaaaatttttt! ONLY DOLLARS?!
I opened the menu, and sure enough everything on the menu is now priced only in dollars. Paella for two $20...Chicken Parmigiana 7$....... Pork Chops 9$ etc. etc.
I spoke with the owner and apparently he got sick and tired of repricing things every time the peso took a dump so he decided to price things in dollars only from now on. He told me that I can still pay in pesos if I like, but they will do the exchange right there at the table. Mora Mai's rate is something like 56 to 1.
Since I can buy a chicken parmigiana dinner up the street from my house for about 9$ - I no longer consider their prices real cheap!
La Roca and PJ's still price their food in pesos so I think both now represent a better value. Despite a stack of masking tape price changes on the PJ's menu I think a pork chop dinner is still going for about 4$ there. Chicken Parmigiana $4.50.

The Shark Bar

Hit the Sosua beach specifically to check this place out. Its like the old Yogi Berra line "Nobody goes there anymore because its too crowded" Place was packed with a reasonably pleasant group of americans, chit chatting and whatnot. Would loved to have joined the group but not a single seat to be had. I guess alot of info on this board and on yahoo groups has caught on this place was hoping! Sosua beach was swarming with chicas as well but I brought my novia/buffer with me so I could walk a few feet without being harassed.

I'll check back in when I have more info - I hear there is a whole new crop of girls at the Cowgirl Bar, I'll let you know + the High Caribe scene when I get the chance.

Cheers,
(86 degrees and sunny)
FORD

Ford
02-11-04, 21:00
Hola again mates!

Cabarete & Sosua Beaches

If there is any justice when I return to the north coast again I will have learned that both the beaches in Cabarete and Sosua have drifted into the carribbean sea and are gone forever. As soon as you get out of your car with your girl at both places you are attacked on every side by various sellers and assorted mendigo's selling every kind of t-shirt, snow globe, cigar and wood carved piece of crap that you can imagine. It costs 60 pesos to rent a chair, 60 more to rent an umbrella and incredibly these ladrones want another 30 or 40 pesos if you want the chair moved ten feet. Once you sit down the fun is just beginning. Senor do you want a beer, Senor do you want some food, photos with you and your girl, the newspaper or maybe a coconut? After 40 minutes I finally fell asleep and some clown woke me up to ask if I wanted a fresh mango! Fresh Mango!??
If you want to be approached by beautiful women lie poolside at the Palace, if you want to be approached by derelicts try the local beaches and sit in general population. Stick with the pool in your resort no matter what size it is.

Cowgirl Bar & Plutus Bar Cafe

I hit the Cowgirl Bar last night with my chica and sure enough she was correct - there is a whole new crop of chicas working here now. The phrase "I don't hate my D*** that much yet" comes to mind. The new girls are pretty tough on the eyes. 10 girls total, I would say 5 girls 4-5 range, three 6's and 2 7's. The owner is apparently paying them only 4500 pesos per month salary or 150 pesos per night just to sit there, but because business is slow, many girls are leaving to parts unknown. What is left is not pretty.
Plutus Bar is a different story. 7 girls working there total - place was packed last night with about 2 in the 6 range and the other 5 7-8's. Alot of energy in the place and with the girls.
Spoke to the bartenders in both places and they said that the girls initially ask for 2000 pesos ($40) but are happy with 1500 pesos ($30). Real cheap if you find something you like. One thing though the salida in both places is now up to 500 pesos ($10) to the house. Up from 300 pesos in the fall.
Actually saw the same two mongers strike out (if you can believe it) at both places. They were both older - I would say close to 60 years old - and were drunk. They approached girls at both places with firm offers but got waived off. Girls may have had bad experiences with them, but I thought it was strange. Of course my girl saw it and said that if a girl isn't attracted to you they frequently waive off customers. That's her take on it but its hard to believe.

I'll hit you all with the High Caribe Scene as soon as I get there. Maybe tonight.

Cheers,
FORD

Remsen St
02-12-04, 12:18
Hearing all this is making me even more anxious to get back down there!! I ate at the restaurant in the Europa (that's where I stayed) and the food was pretty good. The chef is Swiss, and he will accomodate off-menu requests. They have a great cheeseburger deluxe there, and the meat is cooked all the way through!

I'll be back down the end of February-I can't wait!

JimmyDR
02-12-04, 13:42
Hearing all this is making me even more anxious to get back down there!! I ate at the restaurant in the Europa (that's where I stayed) and the food was pretty good. The chef is Swiss, and he will accomodate off-menu requests. They have a great cheeseburger deluxe there, and the meat is cooked all the way through!


I have eaten may a breakfast there and they are fast and always get my order right. That cook is there 20/7. He is a slave!!! LOL!!!!

WSJ3
02-13-04, 00:06
Hey ******* buddy when are you going to head back to Sousa?

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

JimmyDR
02-13-04, 18:09
Some pics of new Palace chicas from a friend. Check out the rest in the JDR section. Is that girl a fox or what?she is bi and loves facials.anything goes with
her

Mister
02-14-04, 09:28
Just got back from my 7 week party in Sosua and the surrounding areas! It's freezing here.

Planning on going back down in early March and in early April.

I know that girl JDR. She travels with the black girl. Her name is Claudia. Had her over the house twice. Met her on the beach.

MISTER NYC :D

Andy S
02-14-04, 09:57
Some of photos of girl from Sosua. The name was Jokaira or something like that.

Andy S
02-14-04, 09:58
One more photo of the same girl

Tn-gman
02-14-04, 19:40
message deleted

Ford
02-14-04, 21:55
Hola again mates!

High Caribe Disco

Hit this place last night with my chica. As was true in December there is a much higher % of dark-skinned Haitian girls here then on my previous trips. I hear the place is up for sale and I`m not surprised - it absolutely flies in the face of reason how this place can make any money at all. Packed with people but nobody spending any money on anything. Price is 50 pesos ($1) to get in and Cubre Libre drinks cost the same about 50 pesos (1$) each and they make them so strong you can`t drink more than one.
Asked around and apparently the girls wil ask for 2000 pesos ($40) up front but will gladly walk for 1500 pesos ($30). As the night drags on its not uncommon for some chicas (Haitian) to except 1000 ($20). Of course since its a `legitimate ` disco there is no salida.

Waterfront Restaurant

This place absolutely hits the triple crown for restaurants! 10 for ambience... 10 for food... and 10 for price! Since I know that its recieved international acclaim in magazines such as Travel and such for its quality I figured the prices would be sky high. Not true at all. How about a 16oz Filet Mignon dinner for 500 RDP ($10) , 2 lb. Lobster Dinner for 550 RDP ($11), Chicken Cordo Bleau 300 RDP ($6), and Pork Medallions in Au Jus Gravy ($5.50). Beers are a buck, Cesaer Salad 2 bucks - and all this while you`re sitting out on an open-air deck watching the ships go by. You all have to try this place even if its with a date its still real cheap and great quality.

Bits and pieces

I agree with ******* when he says "this place is every man`s fantasy destination", but I also agree with Bil when he said that "it can get kinda` boring here if you stay too long." I have taken 5 trips here in 6 months and I think this might be pushing the envelope just alittle. I might be looking for a new reality real soon and when I feel like this there is no telling where I`ll show up next! ;)

Cheers,
FORD

Marco NJ
02-14-04, 22:05
It looks like I'll be making my first trip to the Palace March 13th with a friend who has been there before. By the looks of the last few girls at the Palace, a good time is on the horizon.

Found this beauty on another board.

Dutchie525
02-15-04, 15:55
I plan to come to Sosua on 26 Feb. Does anyone know the rates at the Sosua Palace or have any advice on the hotels there? It's my first time in Sosua.

JimmyDR
02-15-04, 16:40
Bits and pieces

I agree with ******* when he says "this place is every man`s fantasy destination", but I also agree with Bil when he said that "it can get kinda` boring here if you stay too long." I have taken 5 trips here in 6 months and I think this might be pushing the envelope just alittle. I might be looking for a new reality real soon and when I feel like this there is no telling where I`ll show up next!

Cheers,
FORD


Its a big county, so if you stay in one town, true you can get bored but with Santiago, Samana, Caberete, Jarabacoa, Santo Domingo, Costamber, Puerto Plata, just to name a few, you would need years to get BORED

Le Spuff
02-15-04, 21:01
*******,

Your website says there is a event for july/april 2004, which days of the month are you planning these events. I'm planning to visit DR for my second time probably around april or the july. The first time I went to DR I stayed at Jack Tar Village located at Peurto Plata. Unfortunately, I went with a loved one and never got to engage in my hobby, hell I didn't even leave the resort. Do I need to book reservations at the sousa palace early, I heard this place gets books fast. What are the rates for the penthouse. Also, I'm a chinese-american, would this be a problem with the girls or the locals. I'm expecting to pay gringo prices but, I don't want to pay the gringo tax+chino tax= $$$$$ prices.

You guys are wonderful and this forum rocks.

Andy S
02-15-04, 23:17
I plan to come to Sosua on 26 Feb. Does anyone know the rates at the Sosua Palace or have any advice on the hotels there? It's my first time in Sosua.3 days came back from Sosua. We stay in Europa and Voramar hotels. Both are great and chica friendly. Bars with chicas starts right from the door of Europa. Voramar is about 5 min by motoconcho from Sosua centre, but it is cheaper. Europa was at 35$, Voramar at 25$.

I have visited Palace, but I don't like it. Don't know why. Even did not asked for the price. Sorry for Palace lovers.

Greetings from snowly Russia,

Andy

Le Spuff
02-16-04, 09:07
This site is great and I want to thank everybody.

How far is the Palace from the beach? How is the pool at the Palace? Is the Palace close to the Casa Marina Beach resort? Can I walk to the bars/nightlife and Food? from the Palace hotel?

Thanks again.

Andy S
02-16-04, 13:06
How far is the Palace from the beach? How is the pool at the Palace? Is the Palace close to the Casa Marina Beach resort? Can I walk to the bars/nightlife and Food? from the Palace hotel?Le Spuff,

Palace is about 500-700m from Casa Marina and about 1km from the Beach (i mean public beach). Sure, you can walk everywhere from Palace, but it is much easy to ask motoconcho to bring you everywhere in Sosua for 30 peso only.

Andy S
02-16-04, 13:08
The photo of Jeni from Taoro's bar in Sosua.

Ballsy Siegel 2
02-17-04, 00:35
I am interested in a weeklong stay during which I would prefer to hook up with one companion and spend 24/7 or close to it as a couple.

Since I am white, fifties, balding and overwight, what kind of reaction will the locals have as we travel to beaches, restaurants, and fun places - waterfalls, fishing outings, etc.?
Are some towns on the North Coast more tolerant?

Ford
02-17-04, 01:45
Le Spuff wrote:
How far is the Palace from the beach? How is the pool at the Palace? Is the Palace close to the Casa Marina Beach resort? Can I walk to the bars/nightlife and Food? from the Palace hotel?

The Palace is a decent hike to the Sosua Beach, but you can take a moto-concho to the beach (they`re all over) for about 30 pesos ($.75). The Palace pool is small, but usable - the bars & nightlife is all a short hike and close together. The entire `Sosua` scene is encompassed in a fairly small downtown area. Spend a few days here and you`ll get your bearings in no time.
If you are staying at the Palace there is always a few `long-timers` who are available to show you the ropes.

Cheers,
FORD

Ford
02-17-04, 02:10
Hola Mates,

I`m in the home stretch of this my 5th visit to this little `slice of heaven`. I`ve hit this board with info below, hope it helps. I also figured I`d mention here that I just placed a new post on the Cabarete board - this board has been long ignored by most Sosua travelers and I thought it deserved a report. If you rent a car its only about 10 minutes away.
Cheers,
FORD

Marco NJ
02-17-04, 07:45
Andy thats an awesome picture whats going on in Sosua right now. I'm looking forward to my first visit in March! What exactly is Taoro's Bar? Gotta find this one, was she any good?

Indymonger
02-18-04, 05:43
ThaCTJohn - You can catch a bus from Santo Domingo to Sosua for under $10US. The bus is air-conditioned and takes 4.5 to 5 hours. Caribe Tours Terminal in Santo Domingo Av. 27 de Febrero, Esq. Leopoldo Navarro is where you catch the bus.

Good Luck.

Andy S
02-18-04, 09:37
Anybody have any info on the black market exchange rates. I am also flying into santo domingo airfare is much cheaper. How much should i pay for a ride from sd to sousa. I plan on spending at least two days or so in sosua. One more thing does anybody have any info on the black market currency exchange scene in santo domingo. I was looking for places or people who can change dollars into pesos for the higher exchange rate than posted.Usually you can offer higher rate to the exhange peuple, than their first offer (which written at the entrance). As my experience they accept rate for 1.5 .. 2 peso / US$ more.

Taxis will ask you for ~90US$ for SD - Sosua ride one way and about 110$ for 2ways. But you can try to find a taxi for a discount price. Last summer I got the taxi for 45$ only one way. The other solution can be rent-a-car. About 30$ per day + fuel. SD-Sosua is about 280km only, and about 4hours of driving only.

Best regards,

Andy from Russia

Andy S
02-18-04, 09:46
Andy thats an awesome picture whats going on in Sosua right now. I'm looking forward to my first visit in March! What exactly is Taoro's Bar? Gotta find this one, was she any good?That girl was really good in the bed. The taoro's bar is the next bar to the Pluto bar in the centre of Sosua. Ask any motoconcho for Pluto and you will find Taoro's easy. It open daily starting 7pm, girls mostly there after 8pm, price was 1000peso+300 for salida.

Regards,

Andy

JimmyDR
02-18-04, 14:13
Well February turned out to be a packed month in Sosua. The peso is dropping fast, its near 42 I hear. Many are heading down there in march and April and some are planning for July as well. I still have 8 weeks til I return.

The Europa is becoming so ever popular so I think you should rserve your room in advance if thats wher you are planning to stay. Its not like last year where you can just walk in and find 35 empty rooms.

Its graet that so many guys are posting here in the DR sction. We are getting so much new information, when w get there we are up to sped on current events.

Gutter Meat
02-19-04, 01:22
I agree with *******,

When I was in Sosua 3 weeks ago, the 4 Roses bar right outside the Europa Hotel was packed every night. It's a good spot to hit before you go to high carib or latino club. They have 3 girls dancing in skimpy little outfits every night. The airfare from NYC to POP is very expensive now, cheapest I've seen $600 R/T.

Le Spuff
02-19-04, 01:59
Just wondering but, the Europa does not have a website. So what type of rooms do they have? Do they have a 2br suite type of set up too. Is there a pool and how big? How far is the Europa from the palace? Is there a bar in the Europa? Is there Chicas hanging around the hotel? Is the Europa walking distance to nightlife/food? Sorry for the zillion questions.

Flec99
02-19-04, 03:27
Hello all,

This is my first post so I'll keep it brief. I have finally arrived in Sosua. Spent the first 3 days in Boca Chica. What a waste! The chicas were all black Haitian girls (not my thing) and there were only a couple fairer skinned girls around, all taken. Then went whale watching in Samana. Very beautiful and scenic but got really bored and left after only one night. No action there whatsoever. Anyways, Sosua is truly an adult Disneyworld. I've been here 2 hours and already talked to a bunch of chicas working the bar at Plutus bar. I'll be heading back there after this. I went for a stroll and found Moura Mai (empty), La Roca (empty), PJs (it's PJ's Steak House, right?) and M&M Massage. Got lost somewhere and am now in this internet cafe. Hope I can find my way back. I know I saw some other places mentioned on this board. I am staying at Hotel Casa Cayene (formerly Yaroa Hotel). It is very nice, only $35, but not chica friendly. I might try and sneak one in later if she isn't dressed like a puta! Will probably move to Europa tomorrow. Not interested in Palace since it's too far away from the action. Plus I have fluent Spanish so I don't need my hand held. And I'm planning on some Scuba diving so I want to be close to the beach. Gotta find this High Caribe. I was only planning on a couple days here but might extend that until well into next week. Plan to be in Santo Domingo for Carnival next Friday. Heading back to Canada Feb 29. Snow better be gone.

Send me a PM if anyone wants to hang out. Will report back and hopefully post some pics another day.

Flec

Dutchie525
02-19-04, 14:28
Anyone going to be in Sosua starting 25 Feb? Maybe we can go "hunting" together or share an appartment in Europa?

Andy S
02-19-04, 19:19
Just wondering but, the Europa does not have a website. So what type of rooms do they have? Do they have a 2br suite type of set up too. Is there a pool and how big? How far is the Europa from the palace? Is there a bar in the Europa? Is there Chicas hanging around the hotel? Is the Europa walking distance to nightlife/food? Sorry for the zillion questions.1. www.hotelplazaeuropa.com
2. See website for rooms.
3. They have a swimming pool but it is not so big and not so good.
4. About 300..400meters from Palace.
5. They have a bar, but I prefer to go to street bars for hunting.
6. Night life/bars/chicas starts just in the next bar after the hotel door. 10 meters only :)

Best regards,

Andy

Andy S
02-19-04, 19:30
Dutchie525:


Anyone going to be in Sosua starting 25 Feb? Maybe we can go "hunting" together or share an appartment in Europa?My friend still in Sosua until april 2004. Staying in Voramar. I can give you the contact if you are really interesting.

Best regards,

Andy

Flec99
02-20-04, 04:18
Second day in Sosua:

I went for a long walk last night. Found the Hotel Europa. I know a lot of people on this thread are fans, but to me it looks a bit like a dump from the outside. Sign outside says $28/nt. Dirty pool. Went to Miami Bar because like an idiot I went over when some chica hissed as I walked by. They hiss at you all over here. Did not like the hissing chica but liked her friend. Now here was the problem, her friend would not give me the time of day! I finally ditched them after buying a round of drinks for chicas. Note, if one chica is on to you, the others have a 'professional courtesy' not to come on to you out of respect for the first chica. Sort of like a sales girl commission thing. Whatever. Next time I don't care. Do not talk to a chica unless you are interested in her. Otherwise she will be all over you and you will not be able to shake her and her friends will not talk to you.

So I was at C'est La Vie bar (down from Plutus) last night, went out from the hotel at 2AM to grab some smokes after giving up on chica hunting and being tired from travelling in from Samana. 5 nice chicas at the bar and a bunch of old germans. Talked to an English bloke for a while about diving. He left around 3AM. Then hung out with chicas until 5AM. 1 chica offered a BJ since she was on her period. No $$$ discussed. No thanks. 2 chicas invited me D'Latino club. Was there until 6AM. Then went to play pool at some billiards hall. Still no $$$ discussed and one of them (the ugly one) was all over me, grabbing my crotch, etc. The other prettier one was much shyer. Headed back to C'est La Vie around 7AM. The ugly one then offered a 'happy hour' threesome for $2000 and said we could all go back to her place. No thanks... can't do the ugly puta.

Now, here's a sweet tip. My hotel, Hotel Cayena, which is very nice at $35/nt is not chica friendly. So what I did is told them my novia from Santiago was coming. I had to pay an extra $5 per night so I'm paying $40/nt including breakfast, which I slept in for today anyways. So last night (or rather this morning) no problem bringing my chica, although the hotel receptionist/owner gave us a dirty look this afternoon when leaving. I really don't care... my receipt says 2 people allowed so when I showed up with my chica this morning at 7AM (out partying all night), the night guard said nothing. Who cares, I'm only paying night by night right now and if they don't like it then I'm outta there. So went to my hotel room with pretty chica. No $$$ discussed. I know I should not have done this since I might regret it in the morning. Chica stayed with me all day. She had to work at 9PM back at the bar, but told me for 2000 pesos she doesn't have to go. I did not negotiate since she was with me last night for 'free'. I agreed and she'll be with me until tomorrow. So I've spent 2000 pesos for a chica for 2 nights so far. But I'm getting rid of her tomorrow. I have to get some sleep. I've slept about 6 hours in the last 3 days. And I still haven't seen the beach.

Another note, if you are young (under 40), not a fat pig, and not bald, you will have no problem picking up chicas. I've convinced some will go with me for nothing. I'm 31, rather thin, and not too bad looking. Most mongers down here are 50 year old big fat tubs of lard who wouldn't be able to get laid in their own country anyways. I met one big guy who was in love with one chica (the one who offered my a BJ while on her period), but she kept saying no. Any he offered major $$$ for her. Treat girls nice and with respect, never say the word PUTA (this has been hard for me since I speak Spanish and say it all the time), learn some Spanish, dress nice, get decent shoes, and smell good. If you are a big fat smelly guy with no Spanish whatsoever, better crack open that big wallet big boy. No offense or nothing personal to anyone here, but I've read lots of postings about fellow mongers concerns with chicas. Be presentable or no chica for you!

Flec

Le Spuff
02-20-04, 12:23
It seems like a tough question that has been asked many times. Europa or Palace? Even though I would be a newbie on this, I think the Europa sounds quieter and still has a lot of action going on. Where as the Palace sounds like too much action and might not ever sleep. LOL. I can't complain about that but, I'm really concerned about a clean, nice pool since, saltwater is nasty to me. Especially in the carribean where the seawater seems more saltier just IMO. I personally havn't been to any beaches in the northeast for a while. So I shouldn't past judgement. Peace in the middle east. I think i'm going to be heading down to DR in august. Perhaps for the August event via Jimmy DR. Long time from now but, I want to learn more spanish before D-day. Also how is the political situation there? I heard its not doing so good. Whats you take on this in DR and Sousa in particular. I'm sure in the major cities its not the best but, how has crime and that sort of misfortune been in Sousa? Just wondering my dominican friends tell me not to go down because, i'm a foreigner. Their response are you "pocos locos". Is that a actual word? LOL.

Antonelli
02-20-04, 22:02
Le Puff,

Actually the action at the Palace is in the afternoon. I found the smart ones are waiting from 11 am on to catch the guys looking for some morning action. Like myself,nothing like having the morning crew ready to take care of that morning hard on! The pool is kind of small but clean. The bottom line is for great action, the palace is the place to be.

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Flec99
02-21-04, 21:46
Days 3 and 4 in Sosua - Eres mi novia? I don't think so.

The nights are getting longer and the days shorter. Everything has become rather surreal and I don't know what day it is anymore. The peso is up to 46 in the exchange houses but the guys on the street offer over 50. It has been raining off and on the past couple of days and it's quite cool. I went to High Caribe last night. That place should be called little Jamaica. Lots of black people in there and it's a little scary. Again big old smelly dirty tourist guys around drinking alone. As I said before, be presentable or no chicas for you! I met my chica's sister and she was so hot! Such a tight little package with big beautiful breasts. I was not getting a good vibe from my chica's sister, probably out of respect for her sister. I was thinking of playing them for a threesome but I'm not into a threesome unless both chicas are into each other. Don't think that was going to happen with 2 sisters so I gave up on the idea. There was another cute little black girl all over me but my chica chased her away. Too bad. Then went to some outdoor pool hall which was a bit of a dump. We drank a lot and then I realized I had no more pesos left! Some guy in the bar only gave me 38-1 exchange on dollars so those drinks wound up costing $20. What a waste. Went back to my hotel room. The sex was quite crappy, probably because we were both rather drunk but she was rather non passionate anyways.

Woke up the next day around 2PM. I had fallen asleep at about 9AM and was dead tired. Went for breakfast at PJs. Great place with all day breakfasts for 85 pesos. Went for a walk down to the beach. The beach in Sosua is quite crappy. The brown sand feels more like dirt and there are rough waves. Beaches at the east end of the island (Punta Cana/Bavaro) and the south end (Boca Chica) are much nicer. Now I don't know if I want to go diving here. Very ugly waters. I finally got rid of my chica. She was with me every second for the past three days. After three days with her she was starting to feel too much like a girlfriend, and we certainly can't have that. I have a feeling she is going to go psychotic on me when she sees me with another chica. Oh well, going to have to avoid her bar. Another thing I found quite funny is that last night she told me is that she does not consider herself to be a prostitute! HAHA! I don't really know how she figures that one. They are all putas down here no matter what they believe.

I am almost out of U.S. money now... down to my last $10. Damn it! Now I am going to have to rely on ATM machines and getting pesos at the official rate of 46. It's not so bad, but you can get another 5-10 pesos on the street. At least I don't have to worry about carrying a ton of US cash around. Plus my hotel does not accept credit cards which sucks. At least it's a nice hotel and bringing my chica in has not been a problem. See my previous post for more info.

Also, my Sony Vaio piece-of-crap notebook won't boot up! I left the docking station in Canada and I can not fix it! This really sucks. I was offloading my pics onto the notebook and now that is no longer an option. Oh well, going to have to be much more selective on picture taking. All my info on hotels and pickup places for chicas is gone. And I was keeping a daily journal of non-mongering activities for my website. Going to have to go reading through the Santo Domingo thread again.

Also, if you come down spend some time studying a map of Sosua. It took me a couple days before I finally knew my way around. Streets here are quite confusing.

Also, I want to say thanks to Vladimir. Your posts are truly inspiring and I would not be writing here if it were not for you.

Flec

Tn-gman
02-22-04, 17:38
I was going to post a long and detailed trip report of my week in sosua but to be honest I personally don't feel it's worth my time. IMO sosua is the last place on earth I would/will go to find a chica . The town is a cesspool and 90% of the girls are no better then a $20.00 crack ***** in the US. The hotels that are chica friendly are disgusting at best and your lucky if you have electricity. The beach although beautiful from a distance has been destroyed by the vendors and is very dirty. It is impossible to get any fresh air or take a nice relaxing long walk anywhere in the city because of the motocoaches (sp?) everywhere and if you get a ride with them expect them to push cocaine on you. Hell my first ride I thought he was asking if I wanted him suck my cocka. "you like a cocka". Even the establishments I have read about on here with great fervor which I will not name were shitholes. Another disturbing and somewhat sad thing was the number of disgustingly fat nasty americans walking around. I will give you a tip you are better off joining a gym and dropping 100 lbs. then trying to get a chica because even the lowlife *****s of sosua will not give you the time of day. I could go on and on about sosua but I won't. I am sure some will bash me over this post but many of you know it's the truth. Cabarete although not really a mongering destination is a really clean and fun place to stay. I also had a great time in Santiago although also very dirty and a little scary at times there are thousands and thousands of beautiful chica's everywhere and they all love Americans. I travelled the mountain road from Santiago into Cabarete and I couldn't believe the number of gorgeous girls along the roads asking for rides or just passing the day because they had absolutely nothing to do. Just in case your wondering no I didn't go without I picked up a beautiful little 18 y/o waitress in Santiago
that saved my vacation. I will say that the most of the Dominican Republic is absolutely stunningly beautiful so don't be fooled thinking that sosua is the "real" DR. I think alot of people fly into POP go straight to Sosua and that's their impression of the DR. Trust me if you are at least decent looking don't waste your time in Sosua on haitian *****s fly into Santiago and find you a nice decent Dominican girl that will truely treat you like a king and be at your beckon call. Just mo, now you can bash away.........

ApostropheMan
02-22-04, 19:55
I started to make a short reply to your post but found myself getting long winded so I deleted it. Suffice to say that my experience was different than yours and I found value and enjoyment where you obviously did not.

I am glad that you toured around and did find some things you liked. Places like Sosua and other "tourist" towns are not for everyone although I hope to move there in the next few years.

SosuaDoctor
02-22-04, 21:13
Tn-gman,

I think your post holds some truth. Many people go Sosua and think that is what the DR is like in general. Once you get out of the touristy areas like Sosua, the rest of the country is completely different. As far as Santiago goes, I go there for a day or two every trip because I have a friend who lives there. Whenever I go visit him, he and I go out to a NORMAL bar in Santiago (not a Sosua puta bar) and EVERY TIME, I bring a really HOT girl back to his house and get laid...for free. The *****s who gravitate to Sosua are looking to bleed tourists but go a little deeper into the country and you will find real Dominican women. The wonderful thing about them is that they are unlike North American women in that they do not hold the same inhibitions toward sex that North American women do so getting laid is very easy.

Having said all of that, I still go to Sosua for several reasons. Firstly, I like being on the coast and going to the beach. Granted, I spend much more time on Cabarete beach than I do on Sosua beach but they are only 15 minutes apart by car so I stay in Sosua. Being in the "city" like Santiago does nothing for me. Secondly, I like being around people who speak English. My Spanish is good but it is nice to converse with Americans too. Thirdly, I do not mind paying the *****s in Sosua 15 or 20 dollars because that amount of money is nothing to me and it saves me having to go out and actually "pick-up" a girl like I would have to do in Santiago -- easy as it may be. If I was actually living in the DR and not on vacation, I would have a few girlfriends who were not hookers and would never go near the blood sucking putas that I fuck now.

As far as the food in Sosua, I think the restaurants are very good. There are some good points to Sosua. Maybe if you look around a little more Tn-gman, you will agree. Too each his own I guess.
Sosua Doctor

P.S. - By the way, I am heading down to Sosua this Friday for 7 days and will have a detailed report upon my return for you guys.

Estoy Negro
02-24-04, 12:21
Flecc99, your a funny guy.

"I went to High Caribe last night. That place should be called little Jamaica. Lots of black people in there and it's a little scary."

Last I looked DR was a black country, I think you might want to go to Argentina or Spain. The general flavor of the island is a Mocha color. Mostly like the photo I posted.

"Another disturbing and somewhat sad thing was the number of disgustingly fat nasty americans walking around."

How do you know there Americans, did you talk to them? From what I've seen & experienced, DR is mostly traveled by Germans, Dutch & Canadians. Way more than Americans.

"Santiago although also very dirty and a little scary at times"

Did you forget your still in a poor country? Running water, and 24 hr electricity is a luxury for some, when we take it for granted.

You sound like you had a horrible time, but your out of money? Please explain
Are you having fun or not, or your just giving your money away? With the peso at 46 to 1? WOW

Please be informative, not are insulting. Everyone will have different tastes and experiences, good & bad.

Vagabond
02-24-04, 15:24
re Tn-gman
About eating in Sosua. You must have missed Rest Dusseldorf, delcious food, big portions good prices. I live in Sosua, and the 2 resturants you mention is not among my favorites. Fxs. the barbeque at La Rocka is a joke, compared to the barbeque at the Scandinavian Bar down at the beach. El Mulino has very good italian food and is very inexpensive. Bologna has also good italian food, but has become more expensive. Atlantic Blue - great seafood. Other good resturants is Sun and Moon, La Carretera, Don Andres and La Finca. They also have very good Pizza at Isla Bonita.

Andy S
02-24-04, 16:53
Other good resturants is Sun and Moon...May be their food is good, but last time I was there and I received bananas instead of fish :(

Best regards,

Andy

Katokay
02-24-04, 19:23
I haven't been to Sosua for awhile but the best pizza used to be at Brittania Pub. Still there?

Flec99
02-24-04, 22:00
Estoy Negro -

Please don't take my remarks as insulting or racist. I certainly did not mean them as such. With respect to High Caribe, to be honest it struck me as more of a gangster bar which could be found in Montego Bay. The big signs that say NO GUNS, NO WEAPONS, NO DRUGS is a little unsettling. They play mostly reggae music rather than the bachata or merengue more commonly heard. As for the big disgusting old guys around, you're absolute right. For the most part, there are not too many Americans around. Mostly Germans or Dutch. Those are the real perverts walking around with 14 year old girls. And I haven't met too many Canadians.

I did not mention anything about Santiago so don't know what you are referring to. I haven't been there yet.

As for money, I just did not bring enough US dollars down. I took a very last minute flight and did not have any time to prepare. I live in Canada so I actually have to go to a bank to get US dollars. And the Canadian dollar down here is practically worthless.

I'm not having a horrible time, rather the time of my life. I am just trying to advise other readers as to what to expect. I have travelled all over the Caribbean and South America and some readers might come down expecting a more typical Spanish look and I'm just saying that might be little harder to find... IMHO.

Dollar is up to 48 in the exchange houses and the days have been rather cloudy.

I have changed hotels to Europa since I wanted to bring a couple girls to my room and that might be a little harder at my old hotel. I highly recommend the Europa. Very clean, huge rooms, full satellite TV with adult channel, $40/nt. I've been avoiding my old hotel and the C'est La Vie bar as a chica there is stalking me so I had to relocate. HAHA!!

Flec

Amis
02-24-04, 22:45
Flec99 report seems to indicate no research undertaken or complete ignorance regarding a country of travel. Why doesn't he read about the history, culture, politics, peoples, economic development and the standard of living to see if that country meets his criteria? His suggestion "that place should be called little Jamaica" shows how stupid he comes across. I bet he doesn't know Haiti is not Jamaica nor does he know Haiti shares a common border with The Dominican Republic? Of course, if he wants 100% Spanish women, he should travel to Spain or Argentina. And if he is looking for blonde blue eyes, he should travel to Scandanavia da!

Tn-gman
02-25-04, 04:32
Estoy, I had a great time. I love the Domincan Republic I just think that Sosua is not what some on here make it out to be.
I merely was stating for my money Sosua was not the place for me. I think I was informative not just insulting and your right everyone will have different tastes and experiences. I was just stating my opinion. Just because the peso is 46-1 doesn't mean everything is cheap and what the hell does that have to do with anything. Also you take what I said about Santiago out of context if you read my post you will see I enjoyed Santiago very much. I am American so I know an American when I see one but if it makes you feel better I will add the fat canadians and germans to the mix. The point is the same.

Although the high caribe comment was not made by me I feel the same way. It seemed there was an unusal amount of very dark skinned "haitian" girls there. When did the DR become a black country as you state? The greatest percentage of residents are mulatto not black and yes there is a difference.

Vagabond, you are right I didn't get to many restaurants and probably missed the good ones so I retract that statement.

Le Spuff
02-25-04, 06:41
I'm just concerned with crime. I was reading somewhere that these French tourist got robbed/assaulted around Dec or Jan and many predict these crimes will increase since, their economy is going to hell. Chances are DR won't really get out of the hole by themselve. They'll need a bail out from the IMF which suspended DR because, a official was stealing money. Hey, as long as its safe I don't care if its mocha or chocoa. Also heard rumors about the presidential election might be fixed and to expect rioting if it is. I'm not dominican but, this is what my washington height buddies are telling me. I don't really believe them because, they never even been to Sousa.

Estoy Negro
02-25-04, 08:01
Well Tn-gman,

I was talking to Flecc99. I actually was being sarcastic, if you don't do any research & read like other people say as it is the gospel, then you get what you get. Can't you tell from the photos the Europa, the Palace, Blue Dolphin aren't 5 star hotels? Dr is not the French Riveria, its a third world country. Besides Sea Horse Ranch and Casa Linda, most places are sub-par. The don't have the same building codes as we have in Canada & U.S., so they take alot of short cuts. Sousa is not a bad place for first timers, don't need a car and hotels are cheap. If your not satisified with Sousa & want more, then you travel, but for your first time to DR, to go to Santiago without a person who knows the area well and some what fluent in Spanish, you just wasting time. Forget Santo Domingo

How can you say " The greatest percentage of residents are mulatto not black and yes there is a difference."

According to Webster's Dictionary MULATTO means " the first generation offspring of a BLACK and a WHITE PERSON. A peron of mixed white & black ancestry. Let go way back to science class if you have 1% black blood, YOUR GUESS WHAT "BLACK"? If you want to tell yourself your not sleeping with a black woman, you go right ahead. You cannot deny the woman in that photo are cute & black.

This isn't the board to have this discussion, we can PM each other & finish our debate without wasting the boards time & space, if you like.

This board is about chicks, chicks, chicks, where to eat, where to stay, how not to get ripped off, how to get the best bang for your buck and how to lose all your sperm cells in the best way possible.

Estoy Negro
02-25-04, 09:26
I am writing this to apologize to everyone for the past posts, this board is meant for information & I went a little to far.

It won't happen again

Amis
02-25-04, 09:32
Tn-gman states "The greatest percantage of residents are Mulatto not black and yes there is a difference."

Since you are an American why then is someone 1/2 black and 1/2 white called black in America on the US census form or birth certificate instead of Mulatto? Or do you think it changes the extraction of the person depending on their country of birth not withstanding racial origin?

My 2 cents

Andy S
02-25-04, 14:33
Amis, Estoy Negro:

Hey guys!

Let speak about girls, not about skin color !

Regards,

Andy

Tn-gman
02-25-04, 17:06
I knew I would get bashed for my post that is why I didn't give a full detailed report. I merely stated my opinion and yes I know all the differences between building codes and 5 star hotels, blah blah blah. It is to bad that everyone doesn't have the class of the Sosua Doctor, he did not agree with everything I said but he was constructive in his reply.

Amis, let me just state what I mean as basic for you as I can. In my opinion there is a big difference between a true Dominican and a Haitian. I don't care if you call Dominicans black or white but Dominicans sure do. I was just responding to the post that said the Dominican Republic was a black country which it is not.

Estoy, you make some good points but I was simply stating my opinion on Sosua. If you all continue to bash everyone that has a difference of opinion with you then before long this board will just be a bunch of "homers".

Flec99
02-25-04, 22:35
I am not looking to make any enemies on this board and I apologize if anyone was offended by my remarks. Obviously a couple guys here want to enforce their opinions and not let anyone else here contradict them.

Sosua - Day 6... or 7? La Jealous Chica

I went for a walk late last night for a little chica hunting. Had dinner at PJs again. That place is starting to suck. I went down to the Scandanavian Bar by the beach yesterday and today and it was AWESOME! Highly recommend it, all day breakfast, and a great grill. I am in love with a chica who works there but she is just so shy and getting her to talk was like pulling teeth. Plus I think she is only about 16 years old. Anyways, Tuesday night was very dead in this town, almost as bad as Sunday night. Not too many chicas at Plutus or Tainos next door. Miami bar almost empty at 1AM and closed by 2:15AM! Headed back to Europa hotel to call it a night. As I was walking by Four Roses next door to Europa I saw my first chica who thinks I'm her boyfriend. I had been avoiding her for the past 3 days (see my previous posts for full details). She calls me over as I walk by and started making a complete scandal, telling me how she knows I did not go to Santo Domingo as I had told her, that her friends have been telling her they had seen me all over town with other chicas, and she was quite upset with me. Stupid chica. And she was with some old German guy who kept grabbing her! I was about to start calling her a stupid puta but decided to play it cool and smoothed things over. She then had to leave to catch the 3AM bus to Santo Domingo (yeah right!) but then started telling me I should go back to my hotel and not stay at the Four Roses, probably because it had a lot of chicas around. I really can not understand her jealousy. These girls just don't really accept the fact they are prostitutes. So the lesson learned, and this goes for anyone, DO NOT spend more than one night with a chica. Or as soon as she starts getting too attached and wanting to spend lots of time with you, ditch her! Unfortunately, I learned this the hard way.

I'm off to Santiago or Santo Domingo tomorrow morning so this will be my last Sosua post. It's been a blast and can't wait to return to La Isla de Chicas, although I will probably return to Venezuela next time.

Amis -
I was only referring that just High Caribe should be called Little Jamaica, not the entire country. There is really no need for you to start insulting me or anyone else for that matter. I am well aware of the difference between black, mulatto, and spanish chicas. My comments were strictly for the benefit of readers as to what they might expect coming down here, IMHO. And BTW, I am Spanish and have travelled to all the places you mentioned and much more (except the Scandanavian north). I have been to almost every major country in the Caribbean and South America. When you start insulting people then it detracts anyone else from posting for fear of getting bashed. Keep it cool, bro. And next time you plan to be in DR, send me a PM and we'll go hunting together... the drinks are on me.

Gutter Meat
02-26-04, 02:35
Anyone who has stayed at Carib Campo club can you give a report on this hotel. Guest friendly, price, safe in room, its location compared to Hotel Europa?

Thanks

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Marco NJ
02-26-04, 05:56
Just booked my ticket, $450.00 on Continental coming out of Newark on 3/17. I'll be at the Palace for a few and then I'm off to Santiago. Looking forward to a much needed vacation.

Sammon
02-26-04, 06:02
Hi Gutter Meat,

I stayed at caribe campo the last time I visited Sosua. It is a nice chica friendly hotel. I paid about $30 for a nice bedroom suite with a small fridge and stove. When you bring a girl they do not even check thier id.I dont know whether that is good or bad.

When I stayed there they had all inclusive for another $15 extra.

As I understand lot of germans stay there all the time on vacation for two weeks. You may get lucky with them. The rooms are clean and you can get extra towels,just tip the maid couple of bucks. I had a rental car,otherwise it is little far from the action
but they will call a taxi or you can walk to the main street and get a moto. I strongly suggest renting a car for about $40 per day from pop airport. They have very good security,a pretty nice pool and also horseback riding if you are interested.

JimmyDR
02-26-04, 13:31
Anyone who has stayed at Carib Campo club can you give a report on this hotel. Guest friendly, price, safe in room, its location compared to Hotel Europa?

Thanks


100 rooms and a very large pool. 100% chica friendly. Safe in every room. Off season $25, high season $50.

JimmyDR
02-26-04, 13:33
I for one like to read all the reports. I just love it as the opinions change from Trip #1 to Trip #2 to Trip #10. As you get your feel for the place and learn your way around. Keep all the reports and opinions coming. They are all great!!!! You start in Sosua, then make your way to other towns and before you know it, you learn there are many flavors here in our playground.

Dayside
02-26-04, 14:05
Well said Jimmy, the voice of reason.
I for one agree, report on the good and the bad are what I want . I love reading it all and it is extreamly helplfull.
I'm monitoring hear right now trying to decide how I'm going to get myself down to this paradise.

These reports are the only thing I have to help me decide where to go. I appricate anyone who takes the time and effort to post, your doing us all a favor.
You shouldn't have to worry if your post is politically correct or not.
Thanks to all of you for posts.

Tn-gman
02-26-04, 17:02
In retrospect maybe I was a little to negative in my post and I have ammended a couple things I said. Make no mistake about the fact that I love the DR and if it is double a ball I will never make it to the big leagues. There are so many beautiful women there it is "sick". I just didn't like sosua as much as others but I sure as hell loved the women in santiago, mocha and la vega. Next trip I am going to hit the south coast and try it out but when all is said and done I suspect Santiago and area will be my prime hunting ground. Peace

Quifhunter
02-28-04, 02:04
This is my first post. I have been one of those who sit back and absorb all of the great information that the members of this forum provide. I have used this forum to select hotels and to become acquainted with an area before I go. I have found the information to be accurate and have never felt "steered wrong".

Now it is my turn to give back. I have recently returned from the DR where I spent a week. I spent time in Sosua, Cabarete and Puerto Plata but the most action I found was in Sosua. You can't go far without an opportunity and I found that day and night, but certainly more at night.

The hottest session I had was at the Palace. I was suffering a bit from the night before so in the afternoon I decided to take a hot (not so hot) tub. Not long after I got into the tub three large busted women appeared. One approached me and asked if I wanted a massage. I said I did but a bit later. Ten minutes later I opened my eyes and saw her at the edge of the tub with another chica receiving her bra. In a flash she was coming toward me wearing only a smile and came beside me. She then started to massage my neck which felt great of course.

Soon after she was in front of me massaging my legs, thighs and oh yes, Mr. Personality.

We went to the room where the massage continued. It was not bad but not great either. But what was to follow was pretty hot. She began with a fabulous BBBJ. It was amazing to look at her with my snow white erection sliding in and out of her full round lips. The contrast was quite a turn on.

She then continued licking my balls and exploring all of my nether region with her tongue. I haven't had a tongue that far up my ass since Pattaya, Thailand. (That is a whole other story and the subject of a "soon to be" post on that board).

Needing a change of pace to keep from coming, I rolled her over and started to explore her great bod. Finally I could not stand it any more. She had a way of moving that worked my cock like I had neve experienced before. I blew my wad like an 18 year old, and then it was over.

She was very much a pro and soon collected her money and left. Usually I like to develop a bit of a connection with the girls, treat them right and make them feel special. The sex is usually excellent but sometimes good old, straight ahead, hedonistic fun can blow me away.

Life is for the living and I want it all.

So I really don't have a lot to add but rather to confirm all that has gone before. The peso, in one week ranged from 42 to 55 to the dollar. Ask where is the best place for exchange because there can be quite a range in cambio. Consistently the Bank of Nova Scotia offered a laughable rate. During my stay the best time to change was mid week and the worst on the weekend. I found the best place was next to the town hall down the street from Super Super.

Food was as discussed on the board. Don't eat the salad (cabbage is the worst). For me I like to try the local food so I tried a few Comedors off the beaten path. Domincan food seems to be rice, beans and stewed or BBQ'd chicken or pork. Dinner can be as little as 70 pesos, not that the price was the issue. I can have fillet mignon at home, but I must admit it was good at several restaurants.

But this board is mainly about the chicas. My experiences were all good. I only went with chicas that I could talk and laugh with and paid 1,000 to 1,500 pesos. Once I paid 700 pesos, only because it was 4:30 am and I wasn't sure if I could perform. I always discussed price early so that part was out of the way. Once done, money never became and issue. Never was I asked to pay before service.

There are some real hard pros but I am not attracted to them - well not usually. I seem to wind up with the nice girls that have kids and need to support them or their families. But they seem to really enjoy their work, especially if you treat them well, with respect and speak their language.

That is the end of my first post. I somehow feel better having made a contribution even a small one. I appreciate all the information that I have received from this forum. I have put it to use in Indo-China and Cuba in the last year. I am now feeling qualified to make contributions. By the way I found all destinations to be well worth the trip, and yes I am talking about the quif. Of course there were other benefits but not to be discussed here. Pricing was remarkably similar and all destinations are better than the other for one reason or another. It is a big world out there with loads of new adventures ahead. I can hardly wait for the next one. But for sure I will be back in the DR soon. It is so easy to get to and so peaceful once you get there.

JimmyDR
02-29-04, 16:38
Well another year and many more trips coming up.

I have:

April
July
August
October
November
December

Joining in at various times and also going at different times are:

Vak
JJ
LAJazz
Swede
Fantasy
MisterNYC
Guttermeat
Train
Sosua Doctor
Scubberman
Magnum

To name a few, there has to be well over a 100 mongers going regularly.

I have said this before but I guess this info is good and needs to get repeated!!!

Our Hotels:
Sosua Palace
Europa
Voromar
Rockys
Blue Dolphin
Caribe Campo
One Ocean
Villa Chessa

All guest friendly from $15 - $65

Le Spuff
03-01-04, 00:44
I general how many working chicks vs mongers ratio is in Sousa? Will I have a ratio of 3 hoes for every monger? I wouldn't like to travel to a place and find out there are a zillions guys and not enough chicas.

JimmyDR
03-01-04, 13:35
I general how many working chicks vs mongers ratio is in Sousa? Will I have a ratio of 3 hoes for every monger? I wouldn't like to travel to a place and find out there are a zillions guys and not enough chicas.


I guess there are over 1,000 chicas for 60 mongers!

Bill
03-02-04, 00:01
Sorry, but I disagree. When visiting Sosua in December 03', I estimate seeing maybe 250-300 serious mongers. Guys there primarily for chicas. Expat alcoholics and over the hill gang not included. There were maybe 400-700 women available, but never in the same place. Spread out from the beach to High Caribe night club, over a 24 hour period, and many of them you might only employ as a maid. It depends on how high your standards are. Fun is still to be had, but I doubt you will find 8's and 10's walking around every corner.

Remsen St
03-02-04, 03:57
Landed yesterday in Puerto Plata. Started off my third trip to the DR and second to Sosua with a shakedown by customs at the Puerto Plata airport. I had just taken my luggage off the conveyor belt and headed for one person, when a man in a blue blazer with an official looking identification tag directed me over to a sustoms officer on the complete other side of where I was heading. The guy asked if I was American, yes, And where I was going, Sopsua. He, the customs agent and another guy then circled me and kept saying "da me veinte dolares". The guy in the blue coat came toe-to-toe with me, like a kid in a school yard wanting to start a fight. I kept silent; I didn't want any trouble, especially my first night here. They made me give it to the customs agent, in his tan suit.

After settling in, went to the Shark Bar and hung out with Lou and some other guys. Ended up hitting the Casa de Equipo in Cabarete, the selection wasn't good, then on to the High Caribe. Got too drunk to do anything, although the selection was very nice at the High Caribbean.

Day 2

Wanted to go diving, but the water is very rough, with hugh waves. The thought of the Dominican coast guard saving me, oh that's right, there is none. Never mind.

Hung out, got a legit massage, felt great. Glad to not be in NY.

Hooked up with a hot babe I first saw at the beach, and finally got to talk with near the Europa. Name is Rose Marie. Pure dominican loveliness. Super hot in bed. 8/8/9 looks, body, technique. But she is definitely all business.

Looking forward to see what will happen tonight. It is raining like there's a hurricane outside, while I sit in Rocky's on the internet.

Another big thanks to ******* for providing valuable guidance. He said it so well when he described how people get a different perspective on the country on each subsequent trip.

Gutter Meat
03-02-04, 09:30
I'm headed to Sosua today & as the previous post stated, I too have had the luggage inspectors people try to shake me down for $5. I laugh in their face and keep going and never had a problem. Anyone with this problem should report it to the Dominican Republic Tourism Fullfilment House for the United States 1-800-723-6138

New York Address
136 E. 57 St. Suite 803
New York, N.Y. 10022
United States Director Mercedes Perelló
Telephone (212) 588-1012 / 14
Toll Free 1-888-374-6361
Fax (212) 588-1015
E-mail NewYork@Sectur.gov.do

I Can't wait to get to the Palace!

Guttermeat

JimmyDR
03-02-04, 15:44
......

JimmyDR
03-02-04, 19:42
Well you arrived the day before via American Airlines and checked into your hotel, (Insert Hotel) the night before. You wake up to your first complete day.

You decide to get breakfast, you you head over to (Insert Restaurant), in my case I like to go on the internet while I wait so I choose Rockys most days. After breakfast I head over for my daily massage for 300 pesos at M & M .

I wonder around Sosua and make eye contact with numerous chicas. I chat a bit and sometimes ask if they want to drink a coffee with me, and in most cases they say yes.

After the massage I head over to the beach and make more eye contact, arrive at The Shark Bar, shoot the shit and then head back to my hotel.

After June 1 it gets HOT so I will go for a swim or 2 and then wonder around town. There are mongers hanging at the Four Roses most of the time, day or night.
Around mid afternoon I hit The Bolgna Bar for my Iced Cappaccino and watch more chicas wonder by. In my early days, many trips ago I would end up with 2-3 different chicas in my hotel every day.

These days there are so many mongers in town from this site and my Yahoo club, that if you spit you will hit a hooker or a monger.

Our Hotels:
Sosua Palace
Europa
Voromar
Rockys
Blue Dolphin
Caribe Campo
One Ocean
Villa Chessa

All guest friendly from $15 - $65



Restaurants
Mora Mai
Rockys (Internet Terminals here)
Europa
PJ's

Many others as well.


I think this coming April, I will be sitting around the hotel pool, relaxing a bit. I expect the Hotel to be pretty full and when its full, there are a ton of chicas coming around.


(Repeat on a daily basis!!)

Mike77
03-02-04, 22:20
It has been a while since I have posted. Please check back to the NYC Manhattan and Queens, the Larado, and TJ, and the Canada boards from 1998 - 2001. Boy has it been that long.

Anyway, I am thinking about a quick trip to DR, a real quick trip. It would last a day or two. Ariving on Thurs 3/4 returning Fri 3/5 or Sat 3/6. What can I accomplish in that short time? Which place is best for me to go, PP or Sosua? In either place where are the best places to go. (the Palace, Black Beard, ect.)

Am I wasting my time?

Any and all suggestions are welcome.

*******, Please add your welcomed 2cents.

JimmyDR
03-03-04, 13:44
It has been a while since I have posted. Please check back to the NYC Manhattan and Queens, the Larado, and TJ, and the Canada boards from 1998 - 2001. Boy has it been that long.

Anyway, I am thinking about a quick trip to DR, a real quick trip. It would last a day or two. Ariving on Thurs 3/4 returning Fri 3/5 or Sat 3/6. What can I accomplish in that short time? Which place is best for me to go, PP or Sosua? In either place where are the best places to go. (the Palace, Black Beard, ect.)

Am I wasting my time?

Any and all suggestions are welcome.

*******, Please add your welcomed 2cents.

In your case I would pick The Palace because there will be 6-8 other mongers in the house everyday of March and that means lots of chicas coming thru daily.There are 6 then 8 rooms filled that week end so it will be swarming with chicas!!!Dogwood and his crew will be there. Trainwreak is in town as well.

Estoy Negro
03-04-04, 08:51
Thanks Gutter Meat,

I was wondering what I could do, since I usually travel alone & have had them try that give me a tip crap. I usually stand there & acted like I didn't understand them. They eventually leave me alone.

Nefarious
03-04-04, 23:31
No offense guys, but does everyone really love the Sosua Palace or does the owner (pretending to be several people) post on WSG messages about how great it is?

It just seems too good to be true with the low prices, great location, and tons of chicas who are just hanging around ready for action. If this place is for real, get my room ready!

I've seen a couple of places that nice at a similar price, but none better and so easy for getting friendly with the chicas!

Nef

JimmyDR
03-05-04, 13:37
No offense guys, but does everyone really love the Sosua Palace or does the owner (pretending to be several people) post on WSG messages about how great it is?

It just seems too good to be true with the low prices, great location, and tons of chicas who are just hanging around ready for action. If this place is for real, get my room ready!

I've seen a couple of places that nice at a similar price, but none better and so easy for getting friendly with the chicas!

Nef

Report after report from a place that been in business from February 2002 by dozens of different mongers, who by the way have met with each other along the way.

JimmyDR
03-05-04, 15:48
See this is how it works, 1,000's lurk, many dozens travel and only a few post. There are other hotels, but the guys staying at them rarely post so you are stuck with me and my reports.

Sammon
03-05-04, 19:27
Hi, Jdr and everybody else,

I am going with some friends and staying at Playa Grande golf resort. I beleve it is near Rio San Juan. If anybody has any mongering info on Rio San Juan please post a reply.

Thanks

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize proper names. To avoid delays in future reports, please capitalize the first letters of proper names, including names of people, places, countries, cities, streets, nationalities, etc. Thanks!

Maximus150
03-06-04, 03:45
Nef wrote:

"No offense guys, but does everyone really love the Sosua Palace or does the owner (pretending to be several people) post on WSG messages about how great it is?

It just seems too good to be true with the low prices, great location, and tons of chicas who are just hanging around ready for action. If this place is for real, get my room ready!

I've seen a couple of places that nice at a similar price, but none better and so easy for getting friendly with the chicas!"

I have been to Sosua 5 times since Oct 2002, and planning #6 to be soon. All have been at the Palace. I have checked out other places out of curiosity, but I will always go to the Palace as my first choice.

For me it is the perfect combination of elements. Not too big, not too small, not too noisy, not too quiet.

And John, who runs the place, is the best. Everyone in town respects him, and rightly so.

Like many others, I am hooked, and wonder how I could spend more time down there, because its never enough.

Rocco a.k.a. Maximus150

Gutter Meat
03-06-04, 06:02
Just returned from 4 great days in Sosua. Stayed at the Palace as always. I got to the Airport and once again the customs guys who check your luggage tried to shake me down again. He asked for $5 for beer , then I told him to just search my bag. Then 2 other guys came over as I refused to hand over any money and then one of the guys told me its ok to go. Out of the last 3 times I never gave them money and never had my bag searched.

The palace was pretty full. Some guys from NJ rented the penthouse and had a party up there one night so there were alot of girls hangin. During the day hung out at the beach at the NY Shark Bar. The crew that hangs there are all cool and the types I can relate to. Lou & Mike , the owners are great hosts and were working real hard painting and getting the place together so they can soon serve their own lunch.

At nightime I pretty much did the same routine everynight. Started off at the Domino bar which is next to the Hotel Europa and a 3 minute walk from the Sosua Palace. Theres a bar called The Four Roses which is right next to the Domino bar which was also packed. Last time i was there I thought the two bars were one in the same but they put a wall up now so the customers at the Four roses can't see the shows the Domino bar puts on. This forces people in the Domino bar. Plenty of girls every night guys. Next walked to the Latino bar and on the way noticed the Merengue bar is cloed and under renavation. They are building a disco on the top floor. One of the consruction guys let me up to take a look. Looks like its going to be a hit. It has its own VIP section. Latino club packed every night , plenty of girls but the place is a little bit small. I don't really like the shows they put on there either and you won't to if you're homo-phobic.High carib disco was a little slow on Tuesday but crowded on wednesday and Thursday.Girls asking for 2000 pesos and I just walk away. I didn't have a problem getting them down to 1000 for a short stay. Had one girl stay the night and she was ok with 1500 pesos.

SosuaDoctor
03-06-04, 20:16
I just came back from a 7 day trip. I stopped in to see John at the Sosua palace my first day in Sosua to see the place as I had not seen it since it was finished. I like it. I think it is a nice place to stay and the 2 bedroom suites are a good deal for 50 dollars. When I was leaving, a new girl there named Madelin ( I think) asked me if I wanted to fuck her. I said no that I was staying in the Europa and was heading back over there. She said she would come with me. I was horny because I hadn't fucked anyone as I had just arrived so I asked her how much. She said 3,000 pesos. I laughed and I said I'll give you 1,000 if you want and she said "sure". Great blowjob and great lay. Aside from that, I got laid twice for free (once in Sosua and once in Jarabacoa) and one blowjob for free from a bartender in Sosua (I am not telling which bar). I got 2 other blowjobs that I paid for. One cost me 300 pesos and the other 500 pesos.

Guys, please wake up. There are tons of girls who just want to have sex. They are not looking for money. The putas that I did pay, I paid what I wanted to pay them. I told them beforehand what I was going to give them and they agreed to it. Several girls told me stories of guys paying them 2,000 or 3,000 pesos and laughed while telling me. They think you guys are idiots. If I was living there, I would never pay anybody as you don't have to.

Sosua Doctor

Gpiper
03-07-04, 01:38
Sosua Doctor: I disagree with your last paragraph! IMHO, any american that lives in sosua will have to pay for *** most of the time with most of the women there. And the girls there don't think all of us are idiots. Some of us are hardliners when it comes to price.

Ford
03-07-04, 15:12
Nefarious wrote:
No offense guys, but does everyone really love the Sosua Palace or does the owner (pretending to be several people) post on WSG messages about how great it is?

No offense taken, but are you really serious about this? John the owner of the Palace is an easy going, pleasant guy who is very busy with his business and several other real estate ventures. He is far too busy to try to perpetrate sometype of pentagonal conspiracy on the members of this board by posting his own reviews. :D

Once again I'll say it - you 'ought to give the Palace a try, I think you'll be very glad you did!

Cheers

Dotado
03-07-04, 15:21
Sosua Doctor: I disagree with your last paragraph! IMHO, any american that lives in sosua will have to pay for *** most of the time with most of the women there. And the girls there don't think all of us are idiots. Some of us are hardliners when it comes to price.

I don't think Sosua Doctor is wrong. I used to live in the Dominican Republic. I still go visit.

If I lived down there I would not pay women for anything. I can also tell you that if you lived down there and pay is because, 1) You are extremely unatractive, 2) You are very unfriendly, or 3) you can't talk the talk for shit.

Women down there on average just want to be treated nicely. Many of the ones who are liberal enought o sleep around will do it for the fun of it. Now just ebcause they have fun at it doesn't mean some of them won't want to get something out of it. Now the "what out of it" is up to you.

JimmyDR
03-07-04, 16:23
Sosua Doctor: I disagree with your last paragraph! IMHO, any american that lives in sosua will have to pay for *** most of the time with most of the women there. And the girls there don't think all of us are idiots. Some of us are hardliners when it comes to price.


I don't know why you keep knocking these chicas? When I go job hunting in the USA I jack up my asking price and am countered with a lower price. ITs just good business. I do agree with his statement, there are chicas that laugh at those gringos that do pay their high asking prices.

Nefarious
03-08-04, 02:27
well, i didn't reserve a room at the palace, but it sounds like a great place. do you think the owner would let me stop in for a peek while i am there? if it is as good as you say it is, i will go there the next time i am in sosua!

also, is there a really good regualr massage place in sosua? or even a place where i can get a good massage plus full service? any prices?

finally, thanks for the tip on negotiating for price. it sounds like everyone offers everything for 2 or 3 times what they would really accept in sosua. how much will a cab ride from the pop airport to sosua cost?

is it best to take usd to trade or just use my atm?

SosuaDoctor
03-08-04, 08:24
Nefarious,

John will be happy to show you his rooms at the palace. I am not sure if he will have vacancies. He did 2 weeks ago when I stopped by.

Sylvia next to Plutos bar gives a good massage, a covered blowjob and I fucked her too. That was a year ago and I guess I paid about 15 dollars for the whole kit and kaboodle.

Cab from POP airport is 15 dollars or 10 dollars if you speak Spanish like a Dominican and can haggle.

I always just take USD.

Have fun!

Sosua Doctor

JimmyDR
03-08-04, 13:48
well, i didn't reserve a room at the palace, but it sounds like a great place. do you think the owner would let me stop in for a peek while i am there? if it is as good as you say it is, i will go there the next time i am in sosua!


about 10% of the mongers you see there are staying at other hotels and all are welcome!!

Gutter Meat
03-08-04, 18:32
New York, NY (March 8, 2004) - JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq: JBLU), New York's low-fare carrier, today requested authority from the U.S. Department of Transportation to provide international service, including nonstop service to the Dominican Republic. Pending approval from both governments, the proposed service from John F. Kennedy International Airport would operate with twice daily service to Santiago, starting June 10, 2004, and a daily flight to Santo Domingo, starting June 17, 2004.*

JetBlue's proposed flight schedule as filed in request for international authority with the U.S. Department of Transportation*:

New York (JFK) to Santiago (STI) Santiago to New York
Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive
6:50am - 10:25am (eff. 6/10/04)
9:45pm - 1:20am (eff 6/10/04) 2:20am - 5:55am (eff. 6/11/04)
11:25am - 3:00pm (eff 6/10/04)

New York (JFK) to Santo Domingo (SDQ) Santo Domingo to New York
Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive
9:05pm - 12:50am (eff. 6/17/04) 1:50am - 5:35am (eff. 6/18/04)

Nefarious
03-08-04, 23:08
Thanks guys!

Hey, a friend told me today that due to the great exchange rate, I should bring a stack of ones instead of twenties because the twenties are harder to exchange. Is that true? If so, my wife will think I am going to strip clubs. Hehe she wouldn't be that far off, eh? If she only knew!

Also, should I bring cash or just use the ATM?

Thanks!

Nefarious
03-09-04, 01:58
I heard that there was drug similar to Viagra on sale in the DR. What is this drug and does it work? Also, someone said that Viagra is available without a prescription in DR. Is that true? Is it the real deal or a fake?

While I don't normally have any problems, I'd like to think about trying it so I can have fun a few times a day!

Dotado
03-09-04, 08:38
The drug you might be refering to is Cialis.

And yes both are sold without prescription.

And yes they are the real deal.

And no I don't know from using them but from articles in the papers that I read while I was down there.

Ford
03-09-04, 14:41
New York, NY (March 8, 2004) - JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq: JBLU), New York's low-fare carrier, today requested authority from the U.S. Department of Transportation to provide international service, including nonstop service to the Dominican Republic.


This is great news!! Competition always creates favorable pricing and I think its about time someone chalenged AA's monopoly on the "DR". If makes sense for them to start flying to the most popular airports first - SDQ, STI but you got to figure POP is soon to follow.
Cheers

JimmyDR
03-09-04, 16:14
New York, NY (March 8, 2004) - JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq: JBLU), New York's low-fare carrier, today requested authority from the U.S. Department of Transportation to provide international service, including nonstop service to the Dominican Republic.


This is great news!! Competition always creates favorable pricing and I think its about time someone chalenged AA's monopoly on the "DR". If makes sense for them to start flying to the most popular airports first - SDQ, STI but you got to figure POP is soon to follow.
Cheers

I can see fairs near $250 range, in that case I will be there every other weekend!

WSJ3
03-09-04, 17:55
JETBLUE

That's great news ******* buddy. I can't wait for this to happen. Jetblue satellite TV and 3.5 hours until Sousa.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

Dotado
03-09-04, 18:22
Back in December a Dominican airline went out of business.

Now, 2 americans ones seem poised to take over the market.

I had been emailing Jetblue for 2 years to look into the DR market. They always said they would lok into it but that so fat they were only going to be flying into San Juan Puerto Rico for now.

Luckily they seem to have really been looking into it.

So far we have Continental, American Airlines, USAIR, and Air Santo Domingo. Add to those Delta and Jetblue and we might see some nicer prices for airline tickets coming our way.

Bandit87
03-10-04, 04:37
From Nefarious

I heard that there was drug similar to Viagra on sale in the DR. What is this drug and does it work? Also, someone said that Viagra is available without a prescription in DR. Is that true? Is it the real deal or a fake?

Try PrescriptionsKeyWest.com

Dotado
03-10-04, 20:05
I thought it was called Cialis.

And yest both would be sold without a prescription.

WSJ3
03-10-04, 20:07
LEVITRA, VIAGRA, ETC.

All of the above are available if you go to a pharmacy in DR. But in my humble opinion unless you are impotent don't use the drugs the foreplay that most of the chicas are giving you should be more than enough to make "Mr. Happy" salute. I have had 3-4 different mamitas in one day and all of them were winners in the sense that they would take their time and make sure that I was "SATISFIED".

I hope that this helps.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

WU Warrior
03-10-04, 20:44
Nefarious,

It's probably better to bring a combination of cash/travelers checks (you can sometimes get better exchange rates at banks or cambio's using travelers checks instead of dollars) and use the ATM in emergencies.

I would be wary of non-bank ATM's as there are sometimes scammers who jam the machines so that your card will not be released and then they retrieve your card at a later time when you leave. This can also happen at bank ATM's, but banks are a little more reputable than the ATM at a corner bodega. I would caution against using an ATM at a foreign bank on the weekends, especially if it's Friday night, the bank doesn't open till Monday and you leave on Sunday. I've heard of some nightmares regarding this.

In New York, there have been some recent arrests in Manhattan of private ATM owners who use their machines to record the account numbers and PIN of customers and then later fleece their accounts. Caveat Emptor.

I would also advise that you not use a "visa"-type checkcard as your ATM card, especially when travelling outside the states. Giving some potential scammer you bank account and pin ain't cool in my book.

If you use a credit card, use one with a reasonable credit limit ($1,000 or less) that can't be later abused too much by a scammer or unscrupulous merchant.

Having cash, especially small bills will give you greater flexibility in negotiations and easy dollars for tips. On vacation trips overseas I generally take $200 in singles and $100 in 5's for tips and change. I usually leave big bills and travelers checks at the hotel safe and just take what I need for the day/evening's activities.

Also, leave you ID's in the hotel and use a old drivers license for ID when out. In case of something bad, you will have your valid license for the return trip home.

JimmyDR
03-10-04, 20:49
This report was sent to me for posting.



O'kay leave from New York to santiago enroute to sosusa place. I met
a guy on the plane who was going to pp offer me a free ride with his
novia n driver. Arive at the airport and its ranning like hell, By
the way you get off outside in this airport so I got soak. The
custom guy ask for some cash, I told them only had a card it work and
the process was much faster then sd or pp airports. My free ride was
in the back of a pick up truck dont do it the ride the worst. Pay
for a taxi or take the bus. Afther 1 and half hours I hit the Sosusa
palace. John the owner was not there but his worker call him for me
and I met him later great guy. I was in the penthouse and love it a
floor for myself and my own jaquizzi.It was 1pm and I was ready to
eat Alberto who helps out at the palace took me to maua mai and the
food was so good I ate lunch and dinner there my entire stay. By the
way I don't eat Breakfest. Back to the palace the were there were 3
chica there d'ont rember there names. Pass on all 3 and there was
only 1 other monger there a guy name frank we hung out later that
night. Went into my hot tub and came out met mercedes with big
bottom. I took a couple of pic of her and then fs bbbj and cover sex
O couse. She was good, but want to try the other mercedes next time
she has a smaller bottom but she is a little sexier. Took a shower
watch soom tv and then had another palace girl madi she nice young
girl and seem to be shy and new to this she love to kiss. The sex
was okay but the bj was fair alittle cambra shy, but I got two pics.
Them me and frank hit the blue dolphin had drink at the sexy lady
bar. There were mister nyc and 1 other monger and about 5 chica.
The only two that i would have took were not avilable for one was mr,
nyc new novia and the other was the bartener I think she the bar
owner novia. There was one girl for all you guy who like the white
skin girl name emam from england but live in dr now charges 100us for
the night and also does short ones didn't get the price, but might
try a short one sence she said she was take a bunch of photo and she
look o kay. She works out of the blue dolphin and high carib disco.
Well next stop we hit flamingo bar okay show about 7 girls and 1 half
girl half man didn't see anything so hit the high carib disco a real
meat markert girl from the palcace and from all over. This was my
first time in sosusa,but been to bc and sd and pp no disco compare.
If you can't someting you like get on the plane and go home. I had a
hard time making up my mind took a girl who was going to show me how
to dance in my room. She said she was not a puta and had a job as a
barmaid. Well thats nice, but I just want sex and she was great in
the bed bbbj was just fair she was about 5 stay to about 10am. I
gave her some money for her and son and she took it quick, but she
still said was no puta. Well afther lunch walk around and this place
is a joke guys you will not belive how easy it is in sosusa to get a
girl. In the stores, street, or in front of the house wow and for
500 pacos about 15us the rate was 34.5 at judy bank. I never even
made to the beach,so can't comment on the girls there. Took 2 country
street girls up to the penthouse for 600 pacos and had a good time.
Later I met sorinji the girl with the metal in her mouth. The girl
can do her job she give one of the sloppiest bbbj you ever get and
the sex is good . She was the best girl I had in the palace. I also
want it nilsa who Is no longer there and anna who is still working
but was in sd at the time. At night me and frank when back to have a
drink at sexy lady bar same girls so we hit the disco and I took one
frank pass he was leaving in morning. BTW there were 3 other monger
who came in young guy early 20s who only wanted to stay at the palcae
and hook with the new girls who eat lunch dinner and stay with them
in pool. Hey to each his own I also saw 2 other guys in and out
the palace. At 41 I am now spend and thinging about v-pill, but I
can make one mor day without med help. Last day so I pack and ate
lunch then bought some gifts and things talk a little while with the
dominican gue who spoke some enlish and met a friend of his dyis man
she was a 10 in my book and spoke some enlish well you no the rest.
That night me and mr nyc went to pp first crystals 15 girls didn't
see noting the price 3000dr and 800dr exit fee thats about 110us.
The bar across the street had about 10 girls but didn't stop for
them. Next Elbohem the girl were about the same as crystals 7s and
9s the only 10 was leaving with some one I would have pay for her.
She was blond green eyes and very lite and a body to macth. I am
into girls with nice bottoms. Next to the other side of pp to the
glaxcia and me and mr nyc were the only guy not dominican. The girl
were more my type I sort like em a little bigger in the bottom then
most and I found 4 but took one. 300dr exit fee and the girl wanted
3000dr then 2000dr its was okay for my last night. I could give 1500
but didn't want to bargin no more and it was getting late plus the
street were on fire and garbage was everywere that side of town still
doesn't have electric power. The girl was ok not worth 2000dr. 2
from the high carib for 800dr were much better in bed, but she took
some nice outfit pic for me. That it I'll be back soon. PS Jdr
break up if to long and post on wsg.

El Cubanito
03-10-04, 21:22
*******,

I use to go to the Dominican Republic in the late 80's and early 90' I have not been back since 1996. I would like to know what would you recommend as far as chicas. I like dark chicas if they have straight hair and nice firm bodies. I also like light skin chicas. WHere can I get these kind of chicas in DR? Is POP, Sosua, Santiago or Santo Domingo, which is the best place. THanks for the info.

El Cubanito

Nefarious
03-14-04, 05:40
Gentlemen,

I am now just two short weeks from my very first adventure in Sosua! I'd like to try to make a couple of reports while there if possible. Does anyone know of a cheap place to get online while I am there?? I will be staying near Sosua beach.

Thanks!

JimmyDR
03-14-04, 16:56
Gentlemen,

I am now just two short weeks from my very first adventure in Sosua! I'd like to try to make a couple of reports while there if possible. Does anyone know of a cheap place to get online while I am there?? I will be staying near Sosua beach.

Thanks!

Try Alfs, its $2 per hour, maybe less

Nefarious
03-15-04, 03:35
I have been searching all over the web for a good street map of Sosua with major attractions such as bars, restaurants, and hotels marked, but have had no luck at all. I've seen some great ones for Pattaya, Thailand. I was just wondering if anyone has seen a map like this online. The ones that I have seen don't really show much of anything.

Also, where is the best place to meet fellow mongerers over a beer for a chat? Do we meet a certain bar? Is there a secret WSG handshake or what?

I'm down to 12 days and counting!

One more thing, please post some more pictures! I know someone has some stashed away.

JimmyDR
03-15-04, 13:27
OK, what is a "stall" They sell gifts, food and drinks in them. and what is the significance of there being 100 of these on Sosua beach? Where is the Sharky's bar? Its number 66 How will they know we are WSG members? All the mongers stop by there. What's at the bar besides booze? The chicas come by as well.

Jimmy... you sound like the expert on Sosua. Do you live there or just visit a lot? I will be there March 27-April 2. I visit there often. Thank you very much for your help!

JimmyDR
03-15-04, 23:08
I have been searching all over the web for a good street map of Sosua with major attractions such as bars, restaurants, and hotels marked, but have had no luck at all. There are no major attractions, just beer and hookers! I've seen some great ones for Pattaya, Thailand. I was just wondering if anyone has seen a map like this online. The ones that I have seen don't really show much of anything.

Also, where is the best place to meet fellow mongerers over a beer for a chat? Do we meet a certain bar? Is there a secret WSG handshake or what? Anyone speaking English is from the sites.

I'm down to 12 days and counting!

One more thing, please post some more pictures! I know someone has some stashed away.


Here is your map

Nefarious
03-16-04, 03:35
Thanks for the map and the answers. How big of an area do you think this map might represent? How long would it take to walk from one side to the other? Or is it so big that walking this distance would not be reasonable? Is Sosua Beach a good place to hang out then? On the map, about where is M&M massage? And the most important question: Where is the best area to find the cute chicas?

Finally, everyone seems to be saying that they are hooking up with chicas that they say aren't putas, but if that is the case, how does the negotiation happen? I don't want to bring a girl back to my room to find out that she won't do what I want or wants too much cash. Also, am I correct that short time is about 2 or 3 hours and costs about 500 pesos and long time is overnight and that is about 1,000? Is it generally correct to counter with 1/3 of what they offer?

Anyone planning to be in Sosua during March 27-April 2?

Thanks!

Ballsy Siegel 2
03-16-04, 08:51
El Cubanito,

If you like dark skinned chicas and you like light skinned chicas, which type don't you like?

Ballsy Siegel 2
03-16-04, 09:10
What kind of shows are put on at the bars in Sosua that Gutter meat is referring to?

JimmyDR
03-16-04, 13:34
Thanks for the map and the answers. How big of an area do you think this map might represent? The town is small, you can walk it in 20 minutes. How long would it take to walk from one side to the other? Or is it so big that walking this distance would not be reasonable? Is Sosua Beach a good place to hang out then? There are days we never leave. On the map, about where is M&M massage? Its on the second main street behind Mora Mai. And the most important question: Where is the best area to find the cute chicas? All over the place.

Finally, everyone seems to be saying that they are hooking up with chicas that they say aren't putas, but if that is the case, how does the negotiation happen? Thjis doesn't happen the first trip. It takes time. I don't want to bring a girl back to my room to find out that she won't do what I want or wants too much cash. Also, am I correct that short time is about 2 or 3 hours and costs about 500 pesos and long time is overnight and that is about 1,000? Is it generally correct to counter with 1/3 of what they offer? Peso has dropped, ST is 500-1,000 and LT is 1,000 to 2,000, this is a rough guideline.

Anyone planning to be in Sosua during March 27-April 2? There are about 20 mongers around

Thanks!

JimmyDR
03-16-04, 17:10
What kind of shows are put on at the bars in Sosua that Gutter meat is referring to?


Chicas dancing type of stuff.

El Cubanito,

If you like dark skinned chicas and you like light skinned chicas, which type don't you like?


The fat or ugly type

WSJ3
03-16-04, 19:20
PALACE

Are there any new chicas at the palace ******* buddy?

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

Brash
03-16-04, 20:12
I was in Sosua from February 20 to 27 , and I had a great time considering it was my first time there. I stayed at the Europa on my entire trip, and find it very convenient . The location is great, walking distance to all the chicas hangout that I found. Guys, where is the Sosua Palace from the Europa, couldn"d find it.

I saw many chicas every day I was there, some cane out after 2 pm and most came out around 19 pm. The bar (club) next to the Europa was packed every night and there were some good lookers .

Most of the girls were asking pretty high prices 2000-2500 pesos, one even ask for 100 U.S. but told her to get lost. I paid on an average 1200pesos.

I really had a great time and I hope to meet some real mongerers next time, naybe I will have a better time.

MJG Dogs
03-17-04, 19:21
I will be in Sosua from 4/15 thru 4/25 and stying at the Europa. I am coming in from LA. Who else will be down there during my stay?

Also I need to know about Customs, having been to Costa Rica, Panama and other third world countries, I Have never paid an entry fee, only depature tax. If a custom's agent tries to shake me down, should I just tell him to " Beso mi culo"? and move on?

Taxi from airport to Sosua- about ten bucks, more or less?

I look forward to my first trip to the DR. I am tired and burned out on Costa Rica, which is going downhill fast, full of ruthless Colombians, stupid gringos paying $ 100 an hour, and Costa Ricans whom are always trying to con you. Plus, San Jose is a dump and crime is out of control, plus the Costa Ricans remind me of the French, they are cowards and will swindle their own mothers.

I would like an honest reply to this question. What is the absolute maximum one pays for a chica por todas las noches in Sosua or POP? My guess would be no more than 1500.

Thanks for you postings Jimmy, and others, the information gathered on hotels, bars, putas etc.. is vital.

SosuaDoctor
03-17-04, 19:21
Brash,
Glad you had a great time in the Europa, I always do. The palace is off the main strip that the Europa is on (Calle Pedro Clisante) and in the opposite direction from the beach. I think it is 2 blocks down and then take a left down a road and you will see the palace on your left.

You were good not to pay the girls what they asked but at 1,200 pesos, you still overpaid. I get most of my sex for free down there now but with hard core hookers, I have several ways to lower the price to where I want it to be. One way is I talk to several of them the first night and I act somewhat interested but say, "maybe another night". Then everytime I see them I say "hi" or wave but keep going. It's a natural reaction for a woman to feel rejected and the only way for her to pump her esteem back up is to have you regain interest. The more you see her and tell her "maybe another day", the more she wants you to finally decide you want her. Finally, after several days, when she comes up to you flirtatiously again, tell her you are going back to your room to watch tv and she can come if she wants to. Then tell her, "I don't have much money though, only 3 or 4 hundred pesos" or whatever you want to pay her. She will be happy that you finally decided to fuck her because at this point, she thought you never would. Now she knows she will 1) get 300 pesos and 2) get her esteem lifted because you want her ....so she will say "ok". DR women love a guy that can play the game and keeps the ball in his court. Now that you have established a low price with her, you will never raise it. She will be yours for that price as long as you are there.

Another thing I do is I tell them I am there for 3 months. They ask for 1000 pesos and I say, " noooo". I say, " I only have a few hundred pesos but if I enjoy it, I am here for 3 months and there are a lot more days left. If she is a smart buisnesswoman, she will see the opportunity for steady cash flow of a few hundred pesos at a time from you. Little does she know that you are really leaving in a week. Or I tell them, "listen, I am not a tourist. I am living here. You can come to my place anytime you want and you can drink my beer, eat my food, watch my tv, use my shower, etc. but don't ask me for money". She will most likely say yes because she thinks that now she will have a place to go to eat and drink for free, use a nice hot shower and watch her novela on a nice color tv. It dosen't cost you anything but the price of the beer in your fridge and you get free pussy. Little does she know that in week, you will disappear.

Sosua Doctor

Brash
03-17-04, 21:00
Thanks a lot for all the info. Soaua Doctor. It is very detailed and informative ans I think that I will use them on my next trip.

I think that I could have used some of them, but since it was my first time there, I guess I was in a rush to get as much action as I could in that short time. Do a lot of first-timers make this same mistake- I mean rushing for the action.

This was the first time I was exposed to this kind of playground for mongers and man was I having fun playing. I can imagine the times you guys going to sosua regularly.

I am planning my next trip in early august and I am really looking forward to, Talk to you later.

Brash

JimmyDR
03-17-04, 23:16
Thanks a lot for all the info. Soaua Doctor. It is very detailed and informative ans I think that I will use them on my next trip.

I think that I could have used some of them, but since it was my first time there, I guess I was in a rush to get as much action as I could in that short time. Do a lot of first-timers make this same mistake- I mean rushing for the action. Hell YES!!Lots grab the first chica they see.

This was the first time I was exposed to this kind of playground for mongers and man was I having fun playing. I can imagine the times you guys going to sosua regularly. It gets tiring, so I hear. I only did 24 trips so far.

I am planning my next trip in early august and I am really looking forward to, Talk to you later.

Brash

JimmyDR
03-17-04, 23:19
I will be in Sosua from 4/15 thru 4/25 and stying at the Europa. I am coming in from LA. Who else will be down there during my stay? I will be there and maybe Kwiz also and some monger named Ejo.

Also I need to know about Customs, having been to Costa Rica, Panama and other third world countries, I Have never paid an entry fee, only depature tax. If a custom's agent tries to shake me down, should I just tell him to " Beso mi culo"? and move on?
You need to buy a $10 tourist card for entry.

Taxi from airport to Sosua- about ten bucks, more or less? Actually $12-13. They say $15-$20 but counter them.

I look forward to my first trip to the DR. I am tired and burned out on Costa Rica, which is going downhill fast, full of ruthless Colombians, stupid gringos paying $ 100 an hour, and Costa Ricans whom are always trying to con you. Plus, San Jose is a dump and crime is out of control, plus the Costa Ricans remind me of the French, they are cowards and will swindle their own mothers.

I would like an honest reply to this question. What is the absolute maximum one pays for a chica por todas las noches in Sosua or POP? My guess would be no more than 1500. It depends, could be 1,000 - 2,000 which is $20-$40.

Thanks for you postings Jimmy, and others, the information gathered on hotels, bars, putas etc.. is vital.

Mongers hang at stall #66 at the beach, Rockys for breakfast, Bolgna Bar, Blue Dolphin or The Palace. I probably will do a few trips to Puerto Plata, Caberete and maybe Santiago.

Gpiper
03-19-04, 04:42
Well, at risk of getting slammed here, I'm gonna respond a little late (I haven't checked this section in over a week), to the comments made on 3/7 by ******* (who I happen to agree with 95+% of the time, and respect him as the utmost authority on Sosua), and Dotado, who I don't often agree with anyway.
I think my comments of 3/6 may have been misinterpreted. I was responding to SosuaDoctor's last paragraph of 3/6 when I thought he was referring to pros when he stated "Several girls told me stories of guys paying them 2,000 - 3,000 pesos, and laughed while telling me they think you guys are idiots. If I was living there, I would never pay anybody as you don't have to". My (Gpiper's) response was " Any american that lives in Sosua will have to pay for sex most of the time with most of the women there. These girls don't think we're all idiots. Some of us are hardliners when it comes to price".
On 3/7 ******* responded to my comments and said "I don't know why you keep knocking these chicas? When I go job hunting in the USA, I jack up my asking price and am countered with a lower price. It's just good business. I do agree with his (meaning SosuaDoctor's) statement there are chicas that laugh at those gringos that do pay their high asking prices". *******: I thought SosuaDoctor was referring to working girls in Sosua, not the non-pros. I didn't mean to knock the chicas there. I realize there are some non-pros there that are sweet, sincere and don't ask for 1 peso from a guy who goes out with them, whether they have sex or not with him. I should have been more specific and mentioned the word pros in my original comments. As far as your comments about prices, I was just stating a fact that not all the women there think that all of us are idiots. When I mentioned some of us are hardliners, I meant it to signify that some of us will not pay inflated prices, that we will only pay fair market price.
As for Dotado's comments on 3/7 " If I lived down there I would not pay women for anything. I can also tell you that if you lived down there and pay it is because 1) you are extremely unattractive, 2) you are very unfriendly, or 3) you can't talk for shit." Well Dotado you sure as heck aren't talking about me because none of those 3 scenarios apply to me! If I lived down there I still likely would have to pay from time to time for a pro. I'm not such a playboy as you make your self out to be when you imply that if you lived there, you could have whomever you wanted, whenever you wanted for free! I realize the working pros there need to make a buck and should be compensated within reason. If one happens to like me whether it seems sincere or not, and wants to give it up for free, then fine, I'll give her some lite taxi fare for her time afterwards.

JimmyDR
03-19-04, 19:15
Anyone that been to Sosua for 3-4 trips is an expert really. You learn nothing new from 50 trips to Sosua. It is what it is. I know some young ones married to Old Germans and we hit it up at the Cabanas every once in a while. They are happy with 520 pesos every time.

Ford
03-19-04, 23:22
******* wrote:
Anyone that been to Sosua for 3-4 trips is an expert really. You learn nothing new from 50 trips to Sosua.


I think you're right Jimmy, since all the action is concentrated in a fairly small central area and since the clubs, bars and restaurants generally stay the same - you tend to get a feel for the place pretty quickly. Each trip however, I notice a fairly consistent rotation of different girls into the salida bars (Plutos, Cowgirl, 4 Roses etc) and this does tend to keep things interesting for return customers though! ;)
Cheers.

Gpiper
03-20-04, 01:23
*******: Thanks for the PM. It's all good. BTW, keep posting those great pics!

JimmyDR
03-20-04, 12:53
I think you're right Jimmy, since all the action is concentrated in a fairly small central area and since the clubs, bars and restaurants generally stay the same - you tend to get a feel for the place pretty quickly. Each trip however, I notice a fairly consistent rotaion of different girls into the salida bars (Plutos, Cowgirl, 4 Roses etc) Cousins telling cousins, sisters telling sisters. More chicas turning legal everyday To us 500-1,000 pesos is nothing but to them it adds up to alot. and this does tend to keep things interesting for return customers though!
Cheers.

Marco NJ
03-22-04, 22:21
First and foremost, I cannot thank my friend Ray enough, for what was the best vacation I have ever experienced (sorry it took me so long to get there). Luckily for me, you're no "Herb" Ray! Thanks to John for his hospitality at the Sosua Palace, it was a perfect retreat. If the jaccuzzi was working with hot water, that would have been a huge bonus (with Jessica, lol). Even so, I cant complain one bit! Those of you worrying about Sosua being a safe destination, as long as you are smart and not flaunting a lot of jewelry or sporting a Rolex, you should be fine night and day. Although I'm no expect based on my first trip, here are some simple facts that might help you along with your trip.

Exchanging money: Super Super Liquors, just a few blocks past Europa on the corner. Good rates and the gentlemen speaks English. On Wednesday the exchange was 48:1 and on Friday it was 42:1 You're better off exchanging money during the week as the rates tend to go down on the weekend.

Traveling on a motoconch in Sosua: 20 pesos, no more!

Eating on a daily basis: Mora Mai, the Lobster Fra Diavlo is amazing and Alex (owner's wife) is a beautiful host. Simply said, I wouldnt eat anywhere else! I'd rather spend my time enjoying my vacation than possibly getting sick eating something that wasnt prepared adequately. Although a few of the boys from Jersey on the second floor enjoyed the chicken from the stand on the corner of the block.

Sosua Beach: Just a bit past "The Lost Gringo Bar" you'll find "Lobo" (a local) renting chairs, tables, umbrellas and more. Take care of him and he'll take care of you! If you go into the water, he'll look over your stuff as well so you dont have to worry about it.

Considering the way my trip started, freezing cold and snow Wednesday morning, my night started with dinner on the beach in Caberete with a beautiful 26-year old girl named Lilly who spoke perfect English and closed with her in the morning. I couldnt have asked for a better introduction to the Dominican Republic. To make a long long long story short... my vacation closed with a trip to Santiago, I have a whole new understanding of the term "car wash!" If you get the chance, I'd recommend some form of a "guide" but in Santiago you'll find a great number of car wash's where you can get some drinks at the bar with plenty of local music and a lot of beautiful chicas, oh yea they do a great job washing your car too. If I ever lived in Santiago, I'd have the cleanest car in the country!

I'll be posting a full report elsewhere later. Pero la Dominicana es la isla de kulo (the island of ass). I have always had love for Latinas but the DR was like a Disney World of ass for me, dark hair, dark skin and big brown eyes are my flava.

In closing I'd like to say that besides the obvious (chicas), the entire experience of the culture and the appreciation for how good we have it here in the states is something never to be forgotten. When you get up in the morning and get into the shower, watch tv, order food for dinner and sit in your heated home with all you have, appreciate that a number of these amenities do not exist for a great deal of the locals in the Dominican Republic... and thats reason enough for me to share some of my American money with them as long as I'm treated with respect and appreciation, not being taken advantage of. Bring some chocolates for the kids on the street, they'll love you forever. Ok I'll stop now, although I could go on forever!

UnFuknPerro
Joe aka Marco

PS: Not sure if all of you guys come across this board, but a big hello to the boys from Jersey who were at the Palace... Jay, his friend and all the guys on the second floor. I still envy the hell out of one guy for that girl you pulled out of the Latino Disco at 5am. Send the number over! Haha. And Ray, remind me to kill you for ruining the best piece of ass I had in the DR, screaming your friend shouldnt be in the fuck business while I'm fucking the crown jewel of Puerta Plata.

Ford
03-23-04, 14:31
MarcoNJ wrote:

Eating on a daily basis: Mora Mai, the Lobster Fra Diavlo is amazing and Alex (owner's wife) is a beautiful host.

MarcoNJ, I enjoyed your reports on both this board and on the Puerto Plata board, thanks!

This is the first time I think I ever heard Alex from the Mora Mai mentioned. Yes, I agree she is certainly sweet to look at - and the food isn't bad either! ;)

Thanks again

Cheers

Nefarious
03-23-04, 23:08
First, I apologize for all of my newbie questions, but I still have more. Hopefully, once I take my first trip to DR (next week), I will be able to answer more questions than I ask!

Many of the people here say that a lot of chicas in Sosua will approach you, but many won't speak much English. They will also say they aren't putas. So, how do we get from "hello" to "how much for 2 or 3 hours of freaky sex including BBBJ?" After all, she isn't a puta, right? I'm trying to find a few Spanish phrases, but I haven't found any translations for sexual things. Any ideas on that issue?

Also, I want to spend several hours with a chica, but don't think I want to keep one all night. I want to fall asleep not worrying about getting robbed during the night nor do I want to have problems with my hotel (who still has not replied to my tactfully asked question about brining in "visitors"). Is 1000 pesos usually good for 2 or 3 hours?

Also, where should I have dollars handy and where should I use pesoes? Everyone seems to say that they carry about $200 in one dollar bills and $100 in fives for one week, but are these for quick cash exchanges or what?

Finally, what is the best way to get from POP to Sosua? Taxi? $12 US sound right or should I have pesos ready?

Thanks again! I will be in Sosua Saturday night (March 27)! PM me if you will be in the area.

JimmyDR
03-23-04, 23:17
I have said this before and I will say it again and again. You don't have to stay at The palace, Blackbeards, Villa Chessa, The Europa, The Voramar or The Blue Dolphin to hang out there. If these places (Most of them), have spare rooms they will give you a short stay rate. You can bring your own chicas into these places at no extra charge.

I have never stayed at The Blue Dolphin but I have hung out there over 30 times. I have hung out at BlackBeards 3 times. No one ever hassled me ever.

They all have bars, some have food and they welcome all of you there. You need not keep it a secret where you are staying either.
All the owners of these places are cool with the tourists.


Ask them where to eat, or how to get around and they will be glad to assist you.

Furthermore, there is no reason if you come up upon some mongers at these mentioned places and ask if there is a group trip anywhere. As long as there is room in the taxi you can join in.

When roaming the town, if you see mongers from someplace else eating, most times you are welcome to join, unles its one monger with his new chica. At Mora Mai we pull more tables and chairs up. Sometimes there are 10-12 of us eating breakfast.

Gpiper
03-24-04, 02:28
Nefarious: so many questions! For answers, simply scroll back on the Sosua and DR WSG Events FAQ and General Info boards and yee shall find what you're looking for! BTW, enjoy your trip and please post 411 on your sexploits! Wish I could be in the DR now! My next trip will have to wait.

Antonelli
03-24-04, 02:43
The Blue Dolphin is a dead issue.From what i have seen and heard the bar is closed in the front and back.Im not sure what happened but i think the word got out.And the word wasnt a good one.Check out the place downstairs from the flamingo its rocking!

Ostronic
03-24-04, 03:33
Hi all,

I will be down there some of the same time as Nefarious. How do you suggest that dinero be carried? I have read something about having 100 1 dollar bills? First, that is silly, second, it would cause a bulk that would be asked to be robbed. Please guys, there has got to be another way. Second, there is having 20 five dollar bills. What about the weird idea of bring about 100 dollars in US there, changing half at the airport (yeah, I know you get screwed) and getting the other 50 changed at your leisure. Then, change it all from the banks or the cambios. That way you don't carry so much cash on ya. Which is the whole reason that not even a crack head robs the 7-11 anymore. " if it's not there, they won't come"

I'm open to suggestion.

JP

Serles
03-24-04, 04:39
Nefarious,

Sosua is I am estimating, about 6 sq. miles at the most. The chicas will approach you in a club, like High Caribe, or Merengue bar. I have always been approached at night. and a couple times during the day. Not much during the day because they are afraid of getting locked up. All the girls know a few words in English. You will do just fine with 2 words. Hola. Hello. and Adios. goodbye. Its probably better for you because you wont have to listen to their BS story about their sick child, mother, brother. etc. They tell you to squeeze you for more money. You get the idea.

I suggest that the first night that you get there, goto High Caribe. They will take a shot and tell you 2000 pesos. don't do it. Never more than 1000. Its that easy. See a single woman on the street. say "Hola". The chances of taking her to eat. a drink. take her hand. goto your room. BANG. its layup city here. Be the aggresser. but don't be aggresive. Take the initiative. And don't over pay. There are many chicas that goto Sosua to earn a living doing legitimate business. Those are the chicas I go after. They are all over the place.

The chicas also go to the beach in their clothes. They never wear bathing suits. don't ask me. but its a calling card. All the chicas that are available goto the beach in jeans, showing their asses in tight jeans. Its not a secret, that single men go to Sosua looking to score. Thats the reason the girls go there also.

Taking a taxi from POP to Sosua is the ONLY way to get there. Unless you rent a car, which I don't recommend, because of the possibility of getting lost. First time I went to Sosua. getting there. I was shocked. The majority are dirt poor. You might feel intimidated at first. After a few days you will get used to the conditions.

I'm assuming that 20k pesos is good for the week. Between food, chicas, alcohol. Its probably overkill. But thats what I do. Also depending on "other" activities you want to do. Jet skiing. 1000 pesos a half hr. , massages. 300 a pop. buying trinkets. 60 pesos to rent a beach chair. I estimate the prices of what something costs in the US. divide it by 6. than multiply by the exchange rate. The asking price should be less. Try doing that full of Presidentes or a few Cuba Libres. I never used US except for the taxi.

The best part of the trip will be the adventure. An island full of lonely, starving poor women. You will be back there. I promise you.

I'll be there from 4 / 1 until 4 / 6. AA arives there at 4pm. PM me if you need a ride to Sosua. I'll give you my DR cell #

Here is a map of the town. Underneath the map, are links to numerous pictures. Take a look.

http://www.tainoswebdesign.com/sosuanews/nav_sosuanieuws_images.php/page=virtueel_sosua_pages/virtual_sosua. html

Regards

Serles
03-24-04, 04:42
One last thing. I received all my info in this forum, reading EVERY post on Sosua. It took a few hours to do. Jimmy DR and a few of the others are probably more suited and experienced to answer your questions, but if you read all the posts most of your questions will be answered.

Warm regards.

Piloto
03-24-04, 05:44
Im planning to go to Sosua April 15-19, Ive been to Santo Domingo several times but is my first time in Sosua. I hope I can meet some of you guys in there and have a lot of fun with the mujeres. I speak fluent Spanish and know all the dominican regionalisms, so if any of you need any help on the language, feel free to ask.

MJG Dogs
03-24-04, 07:21
Piloto,

I will be in Sosua 4/15-4/25. Feel free to look me up at the Europa. I would like to compare experiences and get the lay of the land. However, Jimmy DR has provided about 98% of the information that is needed.

Hell he knows more about Sosua and the surrounding areas than the Dominicans know.

JimmyDR
03-24-04, 13:16
Hi all, (From Ostronic)

I will be down there some of the same time as Nefarious. How do you suggest that dinero be carried? I have read something about having 100 1 dollar bills?
I lock it in my safe and carry about $40 US Dollars most times converted into pesos. Convert $100 at a time, it should last you a while.

First, that is silly, second, it would cause a bulk that would be asked to be robbed. Please guys, there has got to be another way. Second, there is having 20 five dollar bills. What about the weird idea of bring about 100 dollars in US there, changing half at the airport (yeah, I know you get screwed) and getting the other 50 changed at your leisure. Then, change it all from the banks or the cambios. That way you don't carry so much cash on ya. Which is the whole reason that not even a crack head robs the 7-11 anymore. " if it's not there, they won't come"

I'm open to suggestion.


Lock the money in your safe. You can get back to your hotel in most cases in under 15 minutes. Carry a credit card, most places take that as well.

JP

JimmyDR
03-24-04, 13:20
Im planning (From Piloto) to go to Sosua April 15-19, Ive been to Santo Domingo several times but is my first time in Sosua. I hope I can meet some of you guys in there and have a lot of fun with the mujeres. I speak fluent Spanish and know all the dominican regionalisms, so if any of you need any help on the language, feel free to ask.


Look in WSG events and you will see that there are about a dozen mongers there at the same time. I posted 400 pictures in that section as well.

JimmyDR
03-24-04, 13:24
(From Nefarious) First, I apologize for all of my newbie questions, but I still have more. Hopefully, once I take my first trip to DR (next week), I will be able to answer more questions than I ask!

Many of the people here say that a lot of chicas in Sosua will approach you, but many won't speak much English. They will also say they aren't putas. So, how do we get from "hello" to "how much for 2 or 3 hours of freaky sex including BBBJ?" Just say Ola & Cuantos? After all, she isn't a puta, right? Only *****s will approach you. I'm trying to find a few Spanish phrases, but I haven't found any translations for sexual things. Any ideas on that issue?

Also, I want to spend several hours with a chica, but don't think I want to keep one all night. I want to fall asleep not worrying about getting robbed during the night nor do I want to have problems with my hotel (who still has not replied to my tactfully asked question about brining in "visitors"). I have listed the 7 guest friendly hotels here a dozen times. Is 1000 pesos usually good for 2 or 3 hours? Yes, 1,000 is enough and when you want her to leave, escort her to the door and say adios!

Also, where should I have dollars handy and where should I use pesoes? Everyone seems to say that they carry about $200 in one dollar bills and $100 in fives for one week, but are these for quick cash exchanges or what?

I only carry about 2,000 pesos (About $40) and a credit card.
Finally, what is the best way to get from POP to Sosua? Taxi? $12 US sound right or should I have pesos ready? They like US Dollars and $12-13 is very fair

Thanks again! I will be in Sosua Saturday night (March 27)! PM me if you will be in the area.