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IT_Stallion
07-07-02, 17:35
Is there anyone in Firenze who can update the streewalker situation this summer?

I remember the Parco delle Cascine was a good place to find them in years past. Is this still an active area? Another area was along the main streets near the Fortezza de Basso. Here the girls will wait in their cars on the side of the street. Be careful though because some of them are not girls.

If you have any more information please post it here.

BlnkNameCruiser
07-16-02, 06:22
I only recall seeing girls at night near some of the gas stations as I was driving out of town toward Siena direction. I never had the opportunity to check them out closely, but I think they were SW's.

xavier_1106
08-02-02, 21:32
Florence is not that best place to find Hookers.....in parco delle cascine there are a lot of trans.....and jut a few girls....basically old...or ugly....or drug addicted.U can find cuties in via di novoli,via pisana/via pistoiese but i suggest u that tha best way is buyng "la pulce" a so called magazine that u can find eveywhere in all newspaper shop.....on the last pages u find 2/4 pages full of girls to contact with description and phone number...just call them....and ask for the adress.....take a taxi and ring theyr bells........

Claudio67
09-02-03, 07:01
Hi, I am Claudio in Florence, here in F, you can find good girls by looking in this site: www.oasi2000.com then select "messaggi" and then "girls".

You can select the city and in Florence and Prato (near Florence) you have a good selection of girls.

The price is high, about 100 euros for a good and calm fuck, but this is the only alternative to street girls. I prefer to fuck at girl home instead of car.

Anyway I can absolutely suggest a street girl called "Aiuba" age 23, located at the beginning of via Pistoiese quite every evening from eleven to 03 am. She looks like a 18 years old, she is lovely and she fucks great for 30 euros. Tiny body with very beautiful tits and a perfect and tight pussy.

If someone lives in Florence like me, I would like to exchange info about girls.

Mickey Mouse
09-17-03, 02:55
Flash,

Ther are a multitude of ladies available in Italy including Florence. Just got back and had a couple of wonderful encounters. First got to: evaescort.net and check out this russian gem (photos are accurate of this 6' wonder). She speaks english & lives in Milan, but will travel to Bologna, Florence, etc. She is a must! Oral skills 2nd to none and make sure your batteries are completely charged, you'll need to reload a couple times.

Tell her Mickey said Ciao.

Mickey Mouse
09-17-03, 03:22
Laura from escort annunci (check Italy post) has incall in Florence. I spoke to her, but was not able to meet because of differing itineraries. She sounded great and the other Girls I did meet were right on the mark and not misrepresented. If anyone would like to check her out for me.

Saint
10-16-03, 03:55
Hey Mickey Mouse. If I'm not mistaken you've been to Buenos Aires before. I'm going to spend a few nights in Florence next month (November). Are there any type of clubs like in BA in Florence? I'm definitely not a SW kind of guy. I'll check out the girls you listed.

If anyone has anymore detailed information on Florence please post to this site or email me privately at saintofba(at)hotmail.com

Saint

Mickey Mouse
10-19-03, 00:32
Hi Saint,

There are No Clubs or Street Action in Florence. If you happen to see something on the street, keep going! The odds are they are Not what you think.

A few sites to check for independents:

venusescorts.com
www.oasis2000.com (messagi, girls)
http://64.191.30.121/annunci_top_class_escort.php
www.1st-escort.com/schedaguia.htm

You will not find the bargains, but the quality is there! Many of the girls will make the trip from Bologna, Milano & Rome for extended encounters.

I may be there myself the first week of November if you'd like to meet.

Good luck,

MM

Mickey Mouse
11-11-03, 04:11
A Florence update:

www.oasi200.com seems to have some hidden gems who provide in & outcall. All you have to do is make a few calls and have a map ready.

My first experience was an incall at Via del Aqua 11R (just ring the bell) with Jessica (photo not accurate), a spanish girl, mid 20's with average looks. She charged 150 for 1 pop, but everything was on the menu and covered. I did have a much better experience with her friend Danni (8 on looks from Brazil). She visited my hotel room that evening for 250 which included multiple pops during a 2 1/2 encounter and again everything was on the menu, but covered.

My most memorable time was with a Brazilian named Eva (photo accurate) (not to confuse with Eva from Milano) who spent half the night for 300 and had my toes curling the entire time. She was beautful, sensual and incredibly passionate. I strongly recommend this one!

Now to Rome!

Saint
11-28-03, 14:22
What a GREAT city this is. It has been raining the past two days but rain cannot even ruin the mood in this city. This has to be one of the most beautiful cities in the world. There are breathtaking views and everyone should definitely come here at least one time in their life. I will definitely be back in the summer. Thanks to Mickey Mouse for posting that site. I called one of the girls from the site last night and she was unavailable but she gave me the number to her friend, Patricia. A wild Italian girl from Rome. She is just here visiting her friend. It was pouring rain last night but perfect weather for snuggling. A little pricey at 250 Euros but she stayed a few hours.

I have never walked around more in my life. I went into a t-shirt store today near my hotel and surprise surprise the girl is from Sao Paulo. You would not know it but she said there are several people from Brazil here. I cannot really tell the origin of anyone here. Anyway...she gave me a few places to go to eat Brazillian food but they are outside of the city. Today was great and the weather is perfect. Eating well and enjoying this wonderful city.

Organicgrowth
11-29-03, 11:30
Saint,

URGENT: Please check you PM and email.

Regards, Havanaman

Saint
12-01-03, 23:43
First of all I MUST point out how beautiful Florence is. It is easily the most incredible city I've ever been to. I'm not an artsy kind of guy but the history in this city is incredible. You can spend hours walking around this city and I did literally spend hours walking around. I only took one taxi while I was there and that was only to go to the train station. I could have easily walked but the streets are incredible full.

It was "off season" but still the streets were lined with American and Asian tourists. All that I heard in the streets was American. The streets must be unbearable in the summer. The streets are very narrow and not designed for mass tourism.

I arrived by train from Milan and it's a very easy trip. The bus station is really quite organized. Just make sure you save some Euro pocket change though. The public restrooms here at the bus stations charge money to get into them. 0.60 Euros.

Florence isn't a city you go to hobby in. I honestly didn't expect to hobby here and only saw one girl the 3 days I was here. There are no clubs that I know of. The only action I could find was an internet site.

http://www.oasi2000.com/

Go to massaggi then to girls then click on Firenze. You should note that in Italy they don't call the city Florence. They call it "Firenze". There are some hot girls on that site. I had my cellphone from the US so I called a few girls. I got many voicemails and some didn't speak English so I passed. I did reach one girl who already was booked but luckily she spoke English and she offered up her friend. I asked for a description and the stats were to my approval. Her friend was a non-pro student from Rome. 24 years old and very plain to see she wasn't working. Her English was very good though. She told me her name was Veronica which could have been a lie but not sure and didn't care. Very pretty elegant girl.

It was pouring out so it was a good night to stay in. I gave her friend my hotel and room # and I had no problems when she arrived. They simply called my room and I told them to send my "friend" up. Price was not cheap at 250 Euros ($307 US) but she stayed several hours. In fact, we went two rounds and we both fell asleep. She did leave late in the morning though. It was perfect GFE sex and I couldn't have asked for a better time.

I think that website is going to be your best bet if you're in Florence. Unfortunately for me I went to Europe when the dollar was at an all-time low against the Euro. Still restaurants seemed inexpensive compared to Switzerland where everything is very very expensive.

There are plenty of money exchange places, all the places took credit cards. Florence is a very walkable city. Nothing is far and you'll never need a taxi. Everywhere you look is like a picture perfect postcard. Restaurants have great food. The downside is some of the waiters had bad BO (body odor). I was in a nice Italian restaurant and the waiter smelled like he had not taken a shower in ages. There were two American women sitting next to me. No words were spoken about this but we were thinking the same thing and shaking our heads.

Definitely hit this city at least one time in your life. You won't regret it.

P.S. A special thanks to Mickey Mouse who posted that website. I would have never found it if you didn't post it. That's what these sites are all about...sharing valuable information. Have fun.

Saint

Mickey Mouse
12-12-03, 23:27
Saint,
Glad you enjoyed yourself! I agree with you, Florence is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. It's also nice that you can now play there. Also check out Captain69 because they now have an Italy section.
Your welcome,
MM

Malenko
02-08-04, 01:15
Hey guys,

Is it true that you can do hot black chicks in the outskirt of Florence? Someone told me that I just wanted to confirm it. If it's true where can they be found?

Thanks

Lux74
02-11-04, 17:09
Do anyone knows anything about many night clubs in Montecatini Terme? I know there are many night clubs with strip tease dancers from eastern Europe, but I haven't wisited them yet. Any information? Are there real prostitutes or just dancers?

By the way Monecatini is nice tourist town with many many hotels and bars, and it have some street action near stadium.

Tiofio #2
03-22-04, 15:24
Somebody knowimg of asian (cinesine) or latin action girls in Tuscany?

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05-17-04, 12:37
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Simone01
05-18-04, 02:08
Sorry, I didn't know.

Chao

Sultan of Swing
07-08-04, 05:49
WSW's are available out near the Airport. There is a street that connects back to Florence (not Autostrada) sorta industrial park. A few girls are walking reading.

Sultan of Swing (American)

Starfe
10-10-04, 20:50
Please help! I am posting this for a friend of mine going to Florence this weekend.

Starfe

I am a looking to hook up with some beautiful girls in Florence but am finding the prices outrageous .The websites that I have searched oasi2000 and top class escorts are asking 500euro for 2 hours. Have these girls lost there minds. In Barcelona from which I am becoming familiar with, I can get the same talent for 230Eros and 1 hour hottyplottys apartmento style for 90Eros.
I don't mind paying top dollar for top talent but for 500Eros she will need to spend the weekend.
Desperate for choices.

Tiofio #2
11-19-04, 02:43
Go to Italy if you like art, nicegirls, beach and sun but not for *****s, prices are outrahouses and services indecent.

In street you can find also cheap" only 20 a black or 30 a white girl, but service is a nitemare, they do not want to do nothing and u would have to put in figa(pussy)immediatly and cum out in a few second better to go to your hotel room and use your hand more sactisfaction.

Some year ago in street hey were 30% so so, 20 good and 50% bad but now bad are at the least 80% and a lot of them I say worst than bad! And about 100% of white girls they are the shit cod girls of Eastern Europe! Sometime better ebonies or latinas(rares in streets!). And be carefull for cops!

Frenchie
08-25-05, 07:32
I spent a dozen days in the Chianti area at the beginning of August, and I spotted a few African hookers by the side of the road.

The place is between San Casciano and Il Ferrone, a few kilometres south of Firenze, and on the same road but not very far (two or three km southbound) from the monument to the US soldiers killed in action in that area during WW2.

You can't miss these girls : they seem to be waiting for a bus, but they're not. I asked them for their conditions, but they seemed to be so outrageous that I didn't go any further (I wasn't in Tuscany for a quick, expensive blowjob). Anyway, my Italian is basic and their English was poor.

So I left it at that, but some of you might be interested.

And I went back to the quiet of my rented house with its swimming-pool overlooking the olive trees and vineyards.

IT_Stallion
08-29-05, 01:54
Can someone please update the situation in Parco delle Cascine. I know this used to be a very good place to find girls. If this is no longer good please tell me where is good in the city of Firenze.

Thank you.

Martin Brady
08-31-05, 07:00
IT,

I haven't seen anything doable in the Cascine for some years.

The best place I have seen in the past couple of years has been the north side of the Viale Guidoni between the new Palace of Justice and the roundabout before you get to the airport. There are usually several young working girls from eastern Europe.

Please report back on what, if anything you find. I will be back in Florence in a couple of months.

Good luck

Martin Brady
11-10-05, 13:40
I am in Florence for the next week. Is there anybody else in Tuscany now?

Martin Brady

IT_Stallion
01-28-06, 01:34
Martin,
I hope your latest trip to Firenze was nice. I would be happy to hear a report of your trip as I will be there this summer. Is Viale Guidoni still the best place to find girls?


IT,

I haven't seen anything doable in the Cascine for some years.

The best place I have seen in the past couple of years has been the north side of the Viale Guidoni between the new Palace of Justice and the roundabout before you get to the airport. There are usually several young working girls from eastern Europe.

Please report back on what, if anything you find. I will be back in Florence in a couple of months.

Good luck

Martin Brady
01-28-06, 05:38
Hello Stallion,

I was in Florence in November, and there were some very attractive young eastern European girls on the Viale Guidoni - some on the south side this time just down the street from the new Palace of Justice. I only talked to one, a Ukranian, who told me that the only service she provided was a covered blow job for 30 euros. I didn't follow up.

However, I did find some ads in the Friday edition of the Nazione newspaper, aqpparently they only run on Fridays. A few of those ads can be found on the Nazione's website. I called a few girls, got in touch with a Brazilian who speaks Italian about as badly as I do, and I managed to find her. She provided "completa" service - in Brazilian terms - for 100 euros. She was short, stacked, and not unattractive, but she was also rather mechanical.

I will be there again the week after next, and if anything happens worth reporting, I will let you know.

Martin Brady

IT_Stallion
02-02-06, 23:23
Thank you Martin. I look forward to reading your report on the street scene. Can you recommend any hotels around the Viale Guidoni area?

Simone01
02-22-06, 23:47
If somebody knows, pls report it.

I like chineses or latins not italians or eastern european girls, they are very cold.

Martin Brady
02-23-06, 22:22
I was in Florence for about 10 days earlier this month.

Pickings are slim.

La Nazionale newsaper carries classified advertisements (piccoli annunci) several times each week, but I haven't figured out exactly what the schedule is. Many of the ads are for girls in neighboring towns, such as Arezzo, Prato, Pistoia, etc., who may or may not be any good. I didn't try any of them, partly because I didn't have a car the whole time I was there, and partly because if I had, I don't know any of those towns well enough to find an obscure apartment or whatever.

Some of the ads are for orientals, a few are for Brazilians.

I did call a couple of girls in Florence. Some of those turned out to be in the far-off suburbs, so the same problems applied. A couple of others heard my accent and told me they only do business with Italians. A couple of others just hung up on me when I started asking directions. One girl advertised herself as from California. But she didn't speak a word of English. When I asked her (in Italian) when she had left California, she said it was a long time ago.

I did find a couple with the same address, which was easy to find, it turned out there were three of the homeliest girls in Tuscany, so I gave them a pass.

I saw one or two girls walking on the Viale Guidoni, near the just west of the new Palace of Justice building. There were a couple of young Albanian girls on the roundabout just east of the airport, where the Viale Guidoni meets the Viadotto del Indiano. I stopped and asked one of them for the details, and she told me it was 30 euro for suck and fuck and 50 euros if she took off her clothes. This was for service in the car in the parking lot of a gas station on the roundabout. It didn't sound terribly exciting for me, so I didn't go for it.

There was a lady sitting in a car with the door open invitingly on the Lungargon Vespucci just east of the Ponte alla Vittoria.

Sorry I couldn't find anything more exciting.

Martin Brady

IT_Stallion
02-24-06, 22:01
Martin,

Thank you for your report. The information you provide is much appreciated. I would immagine the slim pickings are due to the weather. Hopefully the summer will encourage more girls to come out.

I remember in years past finding women sitting in their cars on the road side. Most of them would have 1 bare leg sticking out of the open door waiting for customers. I recall 1 in particular, who sat in her Mercedes at the end of Lungarno Vespucci, opposite the nightclub at the entrance to the Cascine Park. I met her on 2 separate trips well over 5 years ago, but the last time she was not there. I wonder if the one you spotted was the same woman? Thank you, Martin, for rekindling that memory.

IT_Stallion

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08-19-06, 21:09
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Nitte
08-19-06, 21:20
There's a Black Woman in Via della Porcellana 43. (Via Palazzuolo). I paid 50 Euro for saver sex. For 30 Euro more, you can fuck without condom. 45 years and Big Mama.


Martin,

Thank you for your report. The information you provide is much appreciated. I would immagine the slim pickings are due to the weather. Hopefully the summer will encourage more girls to come out.

I remember in years past finding women sitting in their cars on the road side. Most of them would have 1 bare leg sticking out of the open door waiting for customers. I recall 1 in particular, who sat in her Mercedes at the end of Lungarno Vespucci, opposite the nightclub at the entrance to the Cascine Park. I met her on 2 separate trips well over 5 years ago, but the last time she was not there. I wonder if the one you spotted was the same woman? Thank you, Martin, for rekindling that memory.

IT_Stallion

John Auro
08-27-06, 19:09
On a late afternoon I met some Brazilian chics at a MacDonald in Florence/Firenze. One was a blond slim Mulatta, with gorgeous breasts called Tmalia. I approached her and ask her if she would be available “per um programma”.
She was of course. 100€ at her place. I ask her that’s too much for a ST and she answered that she is a TransSex and her transformation costed 3000€……
----
Went on to a place which made me curious because it was mentioned in a normal (!) travel guide:
“Parco delle Cascine” is a beautiful place for families and joggers during day and at night its full of prostitutes….
It’s a long park along the riverside not so far from the railway station, it was still daylight (7 p.m.) when I arrived by car there. I entered from “Ponte della Victoria”/ Piazza Vitorio Veneto,
It’s a long lane, trees left and right, 2 chics from Ghana stood at the curve of the road, she would have sucked me for 25€ in the car, I continued 3 other white girls stood there, 50€, little further another 2 girls.
Guest this place must be packed during night….
Unfortunately I had no time waiting for the night.
If you enter the alee from the opposite you start at “Piazzale delle Cascine, an old building ports the name: “Facolia di Scienze Agrar et Forestall”
At the beginning of the road 2 old stone lions (status), left and right are waiting for you.
john

Brigategb
11-07-06, 22:23
Here are the photos, one do the best blowjob.Well a really nice place Firenze.

Hermes54
12-12-06, 01:03
Read Il Tirreno or La Nazione and you will occasionally find chinese pussy in Prato, Livorno, Follonica and more rarely elsewhere.

Asking price 100 hahaha usually 50/60 buys CBJ FK

Quality of the pussy variable.

Cluster99
10-25-07, 09:46
I will be in Florence/Firenze in two weeks.

Where is the action in town?

Cluster99
11-09-07, 23:02
This place is dead. Not many places to find women.

Buchi
01-25-08, 00:43
Has anyone been to the lap dance club such as showgirl or excelsior in Florence?

Please discribe about that.

Rgds

Ryo Saeba
02-14-08, 12:53
I'll try to post as much info about Firenze as I've been able to collect.

ITALIAN NON PROs

Extremely difficoult even if you are fluent in the language and spend time, money and effort. Italian girls are known to be very choosy even with Italian guys, and unlike most other women around the world, they are not really attracted to the esotism of a foreigner.

OTHER NON PROs

You may be lucky and score a drunk American exchange student in one of the bars and pubs along Via de Benci (close to Santa Croce); show up around 10 or 11pm.

BARS AND CLUBS

Yes, there are some good ones, but no, don't waste your time: no PROs at all anywhere.

HOTELS

It's not like I'm there everyday, but I happen to stop for a drink in the 5 starred hotels quite often, and I've never seen a call girl; in fact it was I that once was asked if I was a gigolò. That's how bed it is.

SWINGERS CLUBS

It's now closed, but I mention it as I heard it may re-open. I've never been, but from the web site it would appear it was a decent place (www.comoedia.it); it's in the historical city centre. There's another one that I know of far off in the suburbs, but the place is difficoult to find and the entrance quite seedy.

LAP DANCE - STRIP CLUBS

There are a few, but none worth mentioning in the city centre. Personally I know SexyDiscoExcelsior (www.sexydiscoexcelsior.it) for having been there a couple of times: 10 to 15 euros to get in, 50 for a 15 minute lap dance, eat in or take out not available.

Famous pornstars are occasionally invited to perform.

You have to get there by car, taxi is an option but it will be difficoult to get one once you leave.

CLASSIFIEDS

as previously reported, search in:

"La Nazione" - "La Repubblica" - "La Pulce"

ESCORTS

The web site mentioned earlier in the thread (www.oasi2000.com) is not active anymore.

I suggest to visit EscortForumIt: it's not an escort agency, rather a web site where escorts pay to advertise themselves. The good thing about it is that punters may write reviews of their experiences.

Escorts change often, with only a few mainstays: among these you may want to check out a certain "ale sexy", caucasian, tall and very slim, who regularly draw good reviews and charges only 150 euros by the hour, which is not that much for Italian standards.

(www.escortforumit.com): go the English language version, then select Florence.

STREET WALKERS - you'll find some:

- in Parco delle Cascine (Cascine Park), but lately there are apparently more gays and transsexuals than girls, and not long ago the place was stormed by the police to crack a child prostitution racket: my advice is: stay well clear of it unless you go with someone who knows the place well.

- along Viale Gramsci and Viale Matteotti (which are actually the continuation of the same boulevard) where, as previously reported, not very young girls wait for customers with a bare leg sticking out of their parked car.

- along Lungarno Colombo and Lungarno Moro (again, continuation of the same boulevard running parallel to the river Arno).

- in Viale Guidoni, a little out from the city centre.

I don't know if this is the place to mention this, but please note that the great majority of the street walkers in Firenze don't do it by choice, they are actually forced to do it under the threat of repercussion on their families back in their country of origin.

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Sannita Sos
03-17-08, 17:56
How much it cost for complete sex in her apartment in this city?

And what about the price for escort?

I don't like streetworkers.

Ryo Saeba
03-19-08, 16:09
Escorts over the internet usually charge 200 to 300 euros for an hour, incall.

Not many of them allow anal, I'd say about 30 or 40%, and in any case you have to be very specific upfront about the kind of services you expect.

Heidbaw
04-14-08, 14:37
I will be coming to Florence shortly & I would like to spend some time with the girls when I am there.
I prefer to go to well established & long running houses or apartments.
Does anyone on here have any places that they would be able to recommend to me.
This is a genuine request for assistance from someone who has used the I.S.G. on many ocassions in the past & always found other contributors to be really helpful.
Thanking you in anticipation of your response.

Cheers,

Heidbaw

Heidbaw
05-02-08, 10:14
Just back from Florence but I have to report on drawing a blank in this city.
There were some adverts in the La Nazione newspaper for business but I didn't manage to make any arrangements.
On on to Manchester where at least there shouldn't be a language problem.
I wish every one sucess in the future & hope that some activities can take place for you.

Cheers, Heidbaw

Ryo Saeba
07-27-08, 04:47
Been to a new strip joint just outside the city centre (5 minutes by taxi) called Exclusive Club. New for me, that is, since it has apparently been around for some ten years.

It’s located at 185 Via Mannelli, close by the Campo the Marte railway station, but it's a residential area and we felt safe, not a dodgy place by any means.

My friend and I got there at about 2am, paid a 15 euros admission charge, and found to be the only two customers inside, but were readily greeted by all the working girls present (I counted 14). Most of them are from Romania, plus a couple Russians and one Slovak.

I would rate the best looking ones as 8 or 8,5 at the most.

During our first 30 or so minutes inside there was only one pole dancing show, and not particurarly good, altough the quiet atmosphere surely didn’t help.

The waiting staff kept urging us to buy girls’ drinks, but hey, nothing new there.
So we picked a couple girls and went to sit on the couches upstairs for some private time. By paying 20 euros you get a drink and the chance to chat with your girl of choice for 20 minutes. And that’s it. No lap dance. You can touch and grope a bit, but do not expect this to be reciprocated. With 20 more euros you can extend your engaging conversation for 20 more minutes. So you’re basically spending 1 euro every minute just to talk. Now I know that strip clubs are almost always a rip off, but this is really pushing it.

The only reason to visit could be to try and convince a girl to see you outside working hours.

My companion explained me how most of their customers are either introverted twentysomethings or very old guys, so if you are a gentleman about town and have a good game, it’s not impossible to get one to meet you socially at some other time.

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Frenchie
08-20-08, 15:53
Just come back from two weeks in Italy.

Just like two years ago, I spotted a few colored girls on the road between Florence and Greve, in the area of "Il Ferrone", just two or three miles after the American War Cemetry, south of Florence.

It was in the middle of the day, and I was not alone, so I didn't stop to enquire any further.

Not very pretty girls, but definitely working girls !

Malenko
09-04-08, 11:35
Yes, the Chianti Region has street girls spread out all over. I have seen them from Ferrone all the way to Greve in Chianti, to Strada in Chianti and San Casciano in Val di Pesa. I never consumed but they are asking anywhere from 30 to 40 Euros for a quickie in the bushes. The girls are almost all of them from Nigeria. Girls range from 5 to 7. Much better looking girls in Calenzano for the less money. African girls do speak english unlike the Eastern European girls. Pm me if you have any questions, I am Italian but I live in US 1/2 the year.

Take care

Malenko
10-18-08, 21:17
Hello fellow mongers,

I just wanted to post some information about the Strip clubs in Florence/Campi Bisenzio advertizing lap dance and such. I live in Florence Italy and Tampa Florida 6 months out of the year and I have been to some of the best strip clubs the likes of Mons Venus, 2001 O. Etc.

My advise if you are looking for sex of any kind is to stay away from strip clubs in Florence. The girls are hot, mostly from eastern europe but it's a complete waste of money. By the time you leave the club, you probably spent 100 Euro and got nothing but a drink. The lap dances are horrible, they just dance in front of you and tease you, but absolutely no touching. It's impossible to exchange numbers etc. Girl are really cold gold diggers. You are better off trying to pick up non pros in clubs and pubs downtown.

The street scene is still ok for the $, but it is being hammered by the local police. I will be in Florence for another couple of months until I go back to Florida. Feel free to PM if you need advise/questions etc.

Take care and happy mongering.

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Roman Guy
11-15-08, 22:59
Dear fellows,
I invite you to read my report #869 in the Roma section.
Anything similar in Firenze?

Let me know through PM cause I am not frequently in the Firenze section.
Tnx.

Ryo Saeba
08-17-09, 10:40
Been to a new strip joint just outside the city centre (5 minutes by taxi) called Exclusive Club. New for me, that is, since it has apparently been around for some ten years.

It’s located at 185 Via Mannelli, close by the Campo the Marte railway station.This venue has closed, there's now a disco in its place.

Viator
10-09-09, 11:22
Where is the street scene in Florence / Scandicci ? Is it being still hammered by police?

Talisman
10-23-09, 18:12
I was in a bar drinking my expresso in one afternoon and two policia walked in the bar. as they placed an order, one of them walked to my table and asked me for my document. I told them that I was a tourist and asked where I was staying, (hotel monna lisa). I use to live in Rome in the 80's and speak italian well. but in cases like this, I rather act just like as a tourist.

The bar owner came to me a apologiezed in broken English, I guess because that was my second time at his bar. he told me that police are on the watch beasue lot of crime/illegal imigrants related to prostituation are on the rise.

as I walked out the bar thinking what to eat, I ran in to two girls just out side of the bar and we just had a few seconds eye contact and followed with smile from one of the girls and she opened conversation as if we knew eachother. I went along by asking how is school going and after the response I told them that I was going to eat something and if they wanted to join me.

make a long story short, we went out few times and had a great time. I came to know her and know how to get in touch w/her.

Talisman.

Ryo Saeba
10-24-09, 16:31
I ran in to two girls just out side of the bar and we just had a few seconds eye contact and followed with smile from one of the girls and she opened conversation as if we knew eachother. I went along by asking how is school going and after the response I told them that I was going to eat something and if they wanted to join me.

make a long story short, we went out few times and had a great time. I came to know her and know how to get in touch w/her.Hei Talisman,

I'm not quite sure: was she a freebie you scored or a pro on the prowl?

Well done anyway,

Ryo

Talisman
10-25-09, 17:56
Hei Talisman,

I'm not quite sure: was she a freebie you scored or a pro on the prowl?

Well done anyway,

Ryo


they are pros and they don't dress up like a working girls. after dinning that night, she asked me lets go to your place as other girl had left to go back to meet other friend and it seemed to the house. since she had not mention any price i went alone and went to my hotel. we showered and talked for a while and had very pleasent time with her. She is clean and very calm takes her time and enjoys what she does. at least thats how she made me feel.

at the end when she told me her prices for coming to hotel (300 euro), I told her I did not expect that much but end up paying her anyway since she was really good and we had spent close to 2 hours not encluding dinning.

Ryo Saeba
10-25-09, 18:49
at the end when she told me her prices for coming to hotel (300 euro), I told her I did not expect that much but end up paying her anyway since she was really good and we had spent about 3 hours not encluding dinning.Talisman,

I am not an expert of mongering in Florence, but from what I hear and considering the fees published by independent escorts on www.escortforumit.com/escorts/city_it_florence , I would say 300 € for 3 hours outcall is close to a bargain.

Talisman
10-25-09, 21:45
Talisman,

I am not an expert of mongering in Florence, but from what I hear and considering the fees published by independent escorts on www.escortforumit.com/escorts/city_it_florence , I would say 300 € for 3 hours outcall is close to a bargain.

Ryo, I made a mistake saying 3 hours, it was more like 2. even for that it was not a bad deal!

If anyone is interested, contact me via here and I will give you her contact info.

Ykkap
07-29-10, 23:50
You will find a lot of girls on Viale Alessandro Guidoni and Via di Novoli.

I have done with the Greek girl and price was 30 Euros in the car.

You can choose 70 Euros in her apartment.

BJ and Fuck (it called "Bocca e figa" in italian.)

No kiss on every where on the body and the mouth.

In apartment is a bit expensive.

You can find another types of girls near Calenzano.

Black girls are there but I've never tried these girls.

Ryo Saeba
07-31-10, 11:00
Please note that the great majority of the street walkers in Florence and the immediate surrounding areas don't do it by choice, they are actually forced to do it under threat of repercussion on their families back in their country of origin.

Ryo

Roman Guy
08-01-10, 17:59
Please note that the great majority of the street walkers in Florence and the immediate surrounding areas don't do it by choice, they are actually forced to do it under threat of repercussion on their families back in their country of origin.
Ryo
Not always like that, just a little minority, if it exists.
Most of the girls are aware what they are coming to do here.

Anytime I know an African girl on the internet on sites like Yahoo, Facebook, Bear Share, …
they always pray me to do all the possible to invite them to come here.
“What will you do when here?” 80% of them answers “Prostitution”. The rest is more oriented to enter the cocaine biz.

Do not believe what they tell crying to Police, priests or journalists: they just try to obtain mercy from them and not to be rejected or deported.

If you know one of them better she will be true with you and will tell you her story, very different from what you have heard at the television or read on newspaper.

Ryo Saeba
08-02-10, 17:13
I do not presume to know the situation somewhere else, but around Florence I spoke to girls of various ethnicities and the situation is pretty much always the same: they have no house to work in, they do not allow kissing on any part of their body: does it sound like it's their own enterprise and something they enjoy doing?

It doesn't matter if we're talking prostitution or simple illegal immigration: these people get scammed into thinking they go to a better future, whereas in fact they end up the victims of organized crime.

I do not dispute what Roman Guy says about what girls tell him, but if anyone chooses to believe that that is the real end to their story, then is also willingly turning a blind eye to one of the worst crimes man can commit.

Ryo

Malayas Fucker
08-03-10, 00:37
In Florence there aren't Greek pros - they are Albanian slaves.

Black girls take 20€ (oral and normal sex often anal as well) without a condom 40-50€ (Novoli zone).The best site about pros with own apartment is:

http://www.paginelucirosse.it/girlfirenze.htm

Ykkap
08-03-10, 22:13
I do not presume to know the situation somewhere else, but around Florence I spoke to girls of various ethnicities and the situation is pretty much always the same: they have no house to work in, they do not allow kissing on any part of their body: does it sound like it's their own enterprise and something they enjoy doing?

It doesn't matter if we're talking prostitution or simple illegal immigration: these people get scammed into thinking they go to a better future, whereas in fact they end up the victims of organized crime.

I do not dispute what Roman Guy says about what girls tell him, but if anyone chooses to believe that that is the real end to their story, then is also willingly turning a blind eye to one of the worst crimes man can commit.

RyoSo, please tell us what you believe.

Are there any sex slaves on the escort?

When you pay a lot, that's not the crime?

Please tell us your story, philosophy of the buying girls.

Ryo Saeba
08-04-10, 09:47
so, please tell us what you believe.

are there any sex slaves on the escort?

when you pay a lot, that's not the crime?

please tell us your story, philosophy of the buying girls.ykkap,

not sure if you’re attacking me, or honestly asking, or if the meaning of the expression “sex slave” is not totally clear to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sexual_slavery

regardless, i have already explained how i see it, and there's no philosophy about it, just logical, informed reasoning.

there is no widespread, local organized crime in florence, so any girl who wishes to can "set up shop" without fear of being visited by the mafia for having butted into their business. all she needs to do is rent a room and advertize on the internet through dedicated websites.

in today's world, no italian sane woman would ever think of working off the street, unless she was forced to by some serious circumstances. she could be a desperate junkie, she could be an old lady, she could be on the run.

now when it comes to foreigners, whether from spain, brazil or poland it doesn't make any difference: the premise of course is that the girl has the money to pay for the air-fare and a couple of months of rent and, more importantly, that she can lawfully enter in italy.

an illegal immigrant couldn't do any of that.

illegal immigrants are smuggled into the country, and have given up all their savings to do so, so they have no papers and no money. they know they are about to enter into a country illegally, but do so under the promise/belief that once there all will be sorted.

once they have reached destination, or possibly during the trip itself, they get raped and beaten up, and the real story gets revealed to them: they will prostitute themselves or much worse will happen to both them and their family members back at home.

finally, the amount of money you pay has nothing to do with the girl doing it out of her own free will: some housewives, in order to make ends meet for the family, occasionally prostitute themselves, with people they know, for very little. they most certainly aren't sex slaves.

so, once again: sex slavery (which is closely related and connected with [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)) is a crime and anyone who knowingly goes with a sex slaves is a scumbag with no morals. no two ways about it.

ryo

Ykkap
08-05-10, 06:50
Thank you for your long reply.

I'm sorry if my writing made you misunderstanding.

I'm not good english speak and writer.

I heard about the street girls are the sex slaves but I wasn't sure.

Therefore, I wanted to know your ideas about the sex slave and to refer to your ideas.

Ryo Saeba
08-05-10, 20:20
Thank you for your long reply.

I'm sorry if my writing made you misunderstanding.

I'm not good english speak and writer.

I heard about the street girls are the sex slaves but I wasn't sure.

Therefore, I wanted to know your ideas about the sex slave and to refer to your ideas.No problem brother, happy if I helped.

Frenchie
08-23-10, 07:52
Was in Firenze around 10th August. Went to the streets mentioned here and there on this forum and other ones (Via Faenza, Guidoni, di Novoli, around the hippodrome) : just an old hooker near the horse race course... Ity was around 11 pm. Did not venture to Calenzano but headed back to the city centre for a beer and to watch the sexy female tourists...

Malayas Fucker
08-23-10, 13:07
Was in Firenze around 10th August. Went to the streets mentioned here and there on this forum and other ones (Via Faenza, Guidoni, di Novoli, around the hippodrome) : just an old hooker near the horse race course... Ity was around 11 pm. Did not venture to Calenzano but headed back to the city centre for a beer and to watch the sexy female tourists...Hookers in these places start around 1am.

Ykkap
01-06-11, 20:43
By the way, is there any brothel near Florence?

Ryo Saeba
04-17-11, 18:15
Chinese massage parlors that offer happy ending Are springing up in most Italian cities.

Experienced mongers who have the luck of coming from countries where massage parlors already exists, and / or mongers who have traveled, will know perfectly well how these establishments work.

There is however a large community of Italian punters who are new to this game, and could use a little help.

A note on prostitution laws in Italy

In Italy prostitution is legal (it is ok both to offer sexual services and to pay for them) , but the surrounding activities such as public solicitation, operating a brothel and other forms of pimping are prohibited.

With few differences, this is same system employed by most other western European countries.

For these reason, even if a massage parlor happened to be raided during your visit (they often do) , it's very unlikely anything would happen to you.

1-even assuming the mamasan didn't have the time to warn the girls of what's about to happen (unlikely since she'the only have to shout something in Mandarin) since you are inside a 'beauty parlor' where, everyone knows, it's fairly common to be naked, law enforcement couldn't simply barge in your cubicle, but they'the have to knock first, thus giving time to both you and a girl to properly present yourselves.

2-anyway, as stated above, by having some girl jerking you off you are not breaking any law.

3-even assuming they stopped you while you're paying your girl, there is no way they can prove that the extra amount of money you paid is for the sexual service she rendered you, because the MPs do not write receipts, so of course you only paid for a massage that lasted longer than the published fee (if they are published at all).

4-anyway, always deny.

In fact I figure the worst that could happen is, if they stopped you outside to question you about what's going on inside, they could fine you on the spot for failing to show an appropriate receipt.

If however, when they question you, you start spilling everything, you may cause a problem for yourself, not just with the law but also with the people who run the MP you ratted on.

A note on discretion

With apologies to all those who know how to behave and don't need my tutoring, I will now state what should be obvious. Since they run a business which is borderline illegal, the MPs in Italy greatly value the utmost discretion at all times. They rely mostly on word of mouth and do not want you to draw unnecessary attention to their business.

-enter and leave quietly.

-if going by taxi, do not stop in front (at the exact address) but a little further off.

-if you can't find the place, don't start asking passersby or into stores.

REMEMBER: Florence is not Pattaya!

MPs generally do not have land lines, so you'll mostly be calling a mobile number.

ONCE INSIDE

Do not expect swanky establishments: basic furniture aside, you may experience a lack of sufficient heating, lights going out and plenty of noise.

As is the standard around the world, the walls of your cubicle will not reach the ceiling, so if you like to chat with your girl, please be respectful of others and do so in a very low tone.

Their Italian is basic at best, as generally is their English: speak slowly and if necessary help yourself with gestures or with writing.

Girls will not necessarily proposition directly to you: some will wait for you to ask them if some sort of extra is available, some will 'accidentally' brush your cock while massaging, but if they don't it shouldn't be taken as a sign that they won't provide extras. Just ask: their culture is different from the western one, so even if they won't give you the happy ending there's no reason to feel ashamed for having asked.

Also consider that if it's your first time in a certain parlor they may not service you regardless: they will try to ascertain you are not law enforcement, so they will wait for you to come back a second time and / or get to know you better.

The Italian for handjob is 'sega', and they may also call it 'massaggio romantic'

When it comes to agreeing on the cost of extras, bargain (it is accepted / expected in their culture) but don't bargain too hard.

IMPORTANT: do not fucking tip!

Tipping is not part of the Italian or Chinese culture, so they do not expect any. If you really appreciate the service some girl provides you with, bring her a little present next time. If everyone starts tipping for no reason then the tip becomes expected and therefore mandatory in order to receive decent service. DO NOT SPOIL A VIRGIN MARKET!

Always be respectful of the girls and remember that, should any situation arise, losing your cool and making a scene will only make matters worse. Rather, remain calm and smile: that's the Asian way of solving problems.

Ryo

Ryo Saeba
07-24-11, 19:16
If you google "Firenze club scambisti", which is the Italian equivalent of "Florence swingers club", the first result you get is for Rooms Club, which is just a regular club, although it is located on the premises of a long dead swingers club.

As far as I know the only established SC in Florence is the Royal Club.
Quite difficoult to find even for locals, you're better off using a cab.
http://www.royalclubprive.com/Presentazione_ing.htm

Ryo

Human007
04-10-12, 08:54
[QUOTE=Malenko; 802996]Hello, fellow mongers,

I just wanted to post some information about the Strip clubs in Florence / Campi Bisenzio advertizing lap dance and such. I live in Florence Italy and Tampa Florida 6 months out of the year and I have been to some of the best strip clubs the likes of Mons Venus. 2001 O. Etc.

My advise if you are looking for sex of any kind is to stay away from strip clubs in Florence. The girls are hot, mostly from eastern europe but it's a complete waste of money. By the time you leave the club, you probably spent 100 Euro and got nothing but a drink. The lap dances are horrible, they just dance in front of you and tease you, but absolutely no touching. It's impossible to exchange numbers etc. Girl are really cold gold diggers. You are better off trying to pick up non pros in clubs and pubs downtown.

The street scene is still ok for the $, but it is being hammered by the local police. I will be in Florence for another couple of months until I go back to Florida. Feel free to PM if you need advise / questions etc.

Take care and happy mongering.

I am travelling to florence in June, would be great if you could share current situation on sex, escorts, clubs to pick up girls, strip clubs, club prive etc.

What would be the going prices now, and which is the safest bet for sex in florence.

Thanks in Advance

Hiro Protagonist
06-05-12, 09:51
Hi,

I'm going to Florence for a couple of days in the beginning of July. Maybe anyone on this forum has some advice for me. Where can I find good escorts that offers incall? How does the street scene work and where should I go?

Hiro

PorkEater21
06-09-12, 23:54
Hi Hiro,

If you'll have car, you can go near the airport and near A1 Calenzano exit.

PE21.


Hi,

I'm going to Florence for a couple of days in the beginning of July. Maybe anyone on this forum has some advice for me. Where can I find good escorts that offers incall? How does the street scene work and where should I go?

Hiro

Hiro Protagonist
06-23-12, 21:54
Hi Hiro,

If you'll have car, you can go near the airport and near A1 Calenzano exit.

PE21.No car. There is nothing in the city?

MarcoDr
07-23-12, 14:17
Hello,

I'll be shortly in Florence for a week. Can anybody recommend me a mature (45+) trusted Italian wg who does incalls and if possible not too expensive?

Thank you

Stecchino
02-16-13, 11:49
Hello,

I'll be shortly in Florence for a week. Can anybody recommend me a mature (45+) trusted Italian wg who does incalls and if possible not too expensive?

Thank youCheck the following web site http://www.torchemada.com For sure you can find what your are looking for.

Stecchino
02-16-13, 11:57
Hello,

I'll be shortly in Florence for a week. Can anybody recommend me a mature (45+) trusted Italian wg who does incalls and if possible not too expensive?

Thank youNot in the street, check a good site. There a quite a few out there.

Try:

http://www.torchemada.com

http://www.oasi2000.com

PunterWanderer
02-22-13, 13:48
Not in the street, check a good site. There a quite a few out there.

Try:

http://www.torchemada.com

http://www.oasi2000.comOasi2000 seems to no longer work.

Instead, I've used torchemada many times when I happened to spend some days in Florence. I can just confirm that it is one of the few reliable ads website in Italy, also for ads of asian girls, generally not very reliable in Italy. Not all the photos are 100% verified, but those not verified are marked as "not verified". As for me, I've never been fooled.

Filou
06-23-13, 11:48
Can someone say what current prices are like in Florence for 30 minutes?

Any recommendations for GFE in Florence would be appreciated.

Manny51
07-22-13, 21:35
I know that the P4P scene in Florence is dead, but anyone know some good old fashioned strip clubs where I can nurse some drinks while digesting a ridiculously late dinner? Don't need P4P. Super-hotties stripping on a stage will be enough.

Thanks in advance!

Ryo Saeba
07-23-13, 09:56
...anyone know some good old fashioned strip clubs?...I haven't been there in ages, but as far as I know Sexy Disco Excelsior
http://www.sexydiscoexcelsior.it/sde/english.jsp
should still be the top choice.

Have fun,

Ryo

Manny51
07-23-13, 21:26
I haven't been there in ages, but as far as I know Sexy Disco Excelsior

http://www.sexydiscoexcelsior.it/sde/english.jsp

Should still be the top choice.

Have fun,

RyoWhoa! That's a great picture. I think I saw some signs for it. Dude, I am there.

SuperAlfie
10-02-13, 00:18
Was in Florence just recently and a black girl came up to the bar I started off talking to her we hit it off, she said was Brazilian and about 29 nice tits and just came from Frankfurt, her name was Danielle we had good time she was wanting it hooker style, just want to know if anybody knows anything about her? Meet her near Santo Novella she had her own car and new that the hotel I was staying at needed I. The she was obiously pro.

FlautoMagico
08-03-14, 17:06
Back to Florence after many years and the city is still a charm. Had a whole week-end to spend there and didn't want to waste time, eyeing girls and looking for opportunities. Locals have a taste for beauty and are quite friendly to strangers. I was trying to part myself from the crowds, so I chose to wander around, entering random shops and chatting to a couple of girls who where in the mood. A good start, but I was looking for something more.

I wasn't interested into wasting my money in clubs, so being determined to have my Italian experience I looked online for promising ladies. My eyes fell on a mediterranean beuaty on a local site (http://www.torchemada.net) who revealed herself to be Polish, but sounded lively enough on the phone. We had a wonderful lunch in a place on the Arno and the next few hours were much appreciated. There seems to be a lot happening by night, so next time I would look online for things to do and come prepared, but didn't regret the experience. A good source of information is Firenze Spettacolo, http://www.firenzespettacolo.it.

ChrisMonger3
08-08-14, 03:13
I was sourcing info on Florence and read your post. A good way to do the research. Did you visit any massage spas while on holiday?

Chrismonger3


Back to Florence after many years and the city is still a charm. Had a whole week-end to spend there and didn't want to waste time, eyeing girls and looking for opportunities. Locals have a taste for beauty and are quite friendly to strangers. I was trying to part myself from the crowds, so I chose to wander around, entering random shops and chatting to a couple of girls who where in the mood. A good start, but I was looking for something more.

I wasn't interested into wasting my money in clubs, so being determined to have my Italian experience I looked online for promising ladies. My eyes fell on a mediterranean beuaty on a local site (http://www.torchemada.net) who revealed herself to be Polish, but sounded lively enough on the phone. We had a wonderful lunch in a place on the Arno and the next few hours were much appreciated. There seems to be a lot happening by night, so next time I would look online for things to do and come prepared, but didn't regret the experience. A good source of information is Firenze Spettacolo, http://www.firenzespettacolo.it.

Mexicali Jack
10-13-14, 14:43
Am herein Florence and it looks dead. Mex Jack needs a D cup or better 30-45 years old, please help now.

Kforab
01-10-15, 17:46
I have been last summer in Pisa, visiting on the evening also the famous Marina di Pisa on the beach. There you will find all Kind of black ladies from Africa and if you prefer some men as well. Just take protection!

Aaragon1977
04-30-16, 08:07
Saw some nice looking eastern european street walkers in the NH hotel vicinity. Sorry, I do not have much info as I did not partake. I was with a colleague and was on a really short trip.

BlancHot
06-27-18, 14:20
https://www.escortforumit.xxx/accompagnatrici/SARA-28885?from=regular_list

Was in Florence recently specifically with a view to visiting this girl I'the been thinking about for as long as I'the seen her advertised on the forum. I used this website twice before last year and both times ended up with good experiences. As long as you go for the girls with the 100% verified tag you'll be OK.

Florence is her base but she travels around Italy a bit and, as far as I could work out, uses at least two different addresses in the city. Contact with her was a little sporadic, she seems to prefer a direct call rather than whatsapp messages (as I think most of the girls do) so some Italian / Portuguese would be handy. Virtually no English. Anyway once contact made arrangements were done easily enough. She asked me questions, if I was 'of colour' and how big I was (I was going for the a-hole).

Got to the place, some messing around with the door for privacy issues, and then she let me in. Exactly like the photos. Cute and petite with an amazing ass and BJ lips. Pay upfront. We started with a wash (a shower is included in the hour rate so be quick!) and from then on I got to worship that behind and do whatever I wanted with it. Passionate, energetic, encouraging with some filthy talk. Advertises COB but pulled up her head so I finished on her boobs.

An hour is an hour though. No lingering. She is a girl in demand. Professional rather than super friendly but very engaging once the session starts.

RidgeVent
07-11-21, 20:33
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Stradivari
08-25-21, 23:37
Yes, the Chianti Region has street girls spread out all over. I have seen them from Ferrone all the way to Greve in Chianti, to Strada in Chianti and San Casciano in Val di Pesa. I never consumed but they are asking anywhere from 30 to 40 Euros for a quickie in the bushes. The girls are almost all of them from Nigeria. Girls range from 5 to 7. Much better looking girls in Calenzano for the less money. African girls do speak english unlike the Eastern European girls. Pm me if you have any questions, I am Italian but I live in US 1/2 the year.

Take care13 years later: no girls during the day in that part of the region (during one week, passing by every day).