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It was through my own bad planning that I missed out on the highly rated Rebeca Diniz today, I should have booked her yesterday but didn't.
To make matters worse, through not RTFF I'the missed the fact that a number of my back up plans like Viviane Milar were out call only and I simply cannot host in my Airbnb.
To cut a long story short, I eventually messaged Sheila Matos and got a response.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sheila/301585/?list=9vhxpd
Booking made and I headed out to her place on 5 de October and it turns out to be a by the hour room. There must have been at least 5 bedrooms in her place all managed by some old lady who was probably a sex worker a few decades ago.
Though on her profile Sheila lists herself as Portuguese, she was actually born in Mozambique, one of 24 children!
I was pleasantly surprised with Sheila's figure, especially for an an African woman. She's tiny. Her face is pretty without being stunning and I'the guess her age as mid 30's, she's quite chatty and puts you at ease right away.
Between the sheets she'll pretty much be up for anything including anal, I found her pussy to be quite tight, rare for an African girl in my opinion. A long and decent BBBJ turned into 69 and Sheila really appeared to get into it and became quite wet. No lube was required as Sheila was self saucing and it didn't take more than about 5 minutes for me to blow in the bag.
Unfortunately after round one Sheila claimed that she had to pick her child up from school and had to go. This would have been 40 minutes into a one hour booking which was really annoying. Obviously it's never worth making a big deal out of situations like this but it is worthwhile sharing the experience with other the rest of you so you can learn from my mistakes.
Despite her weight she doesn't look fat.
JPTraveller
02-07-25, 19:38
The pictures are real and recent (tattoos are photoshopped away). She's fit (goes to the gym very regularly) and womanly curvy. Not girlie slim but not fat either.
Thanks, I don't want to "ruin the market" or participate in favorizing price increases or upselling.
I'm a bit worried that seeing a foreign number they will try to knowing that in some countries almost everything is extra.
Good to show that I'm aware of the common practices.
On a side note, I see Julia Cavalcanti is advertising 1m79 for 85kgs, but Im looking preferably for tall slim girls.
Not easy to realize with the pictures if shes more on the slim side or not. Could anyone enlighten me ? Thanks
I was reading your review thinking it's great that you found a lady both attractive in your eyes and providing a good service. However, when I got to the bit at the end, it all changed! Only getting 40 minutes of action is not acceptable in my opinion, and it's unprofessional of her. Sorry for the sour taste it must have left.
Rebeca Diniz has got an extensive regular client list, and she now advertises continuously on Apartadox which she never used to. I think she also rarely works in the evenings (morning to late afternoon seem to be her preference).
It was through my own bad planning that I missed out on the highly rated Rebeca Diniz today, I should have booked her yesterday but didn't.
To make matters worse, through not RTFF I'the missed the fact that a number of my back up plans like Viviane Milar were out call only and I simply cannot host in my Airbnb.
To cut a long story short, I eventually messaged Sheila Matos and got a response.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sheila/301585/?list=9vhxpd
Booking made and I headed out to her place on 5 de October and it turns out to be a by the hour room. There must have been at least 5 bedrooms in her place all managed by some old lady who was probably a sex worker a few decades ago.
Though on her profile Sheila lists herself as Portuguese, she was actually born in Mozambique, one of 24 children!
I was pleasantly surprised with Sheila's figure, especially for an an African woman. She's tiny. Her face is pretty without being stunning and I'the guess her age as mid 30's, she's quite chatty and puts you at ease right away.
Between the sheets she'll pretty much be up for anything including anal, I found her pussy to be quite tight, rare for an African girl in my opinion. A long and decent BBBJ turned into 69 and Sheila really appeared to get into it and became quite wet. No lube was required as Sheila was self saucing and it didn't take more than about 5 minutes for me to blow in the bag.
Unfortunately after round one Sheila claimed that she had to pick her child up from school and had to go. This would have been 40 minutes into a one hour booking which was really annoying. Obviously it's never worth making a big deal out of situations like this but it is worthwhile sharing the experience with other the rest of you so you can learn from my mistakes.
Hello mate,
I tried my best to go through all the pages, but still couldn't find or missed it.
Is there any places in Lisbon, which works like the Latin American style, a line up to choose and a back place for intimate action (FS).
We can walk into like a Strip / gentlemans club where you see lots of women dancing or standing, and we can take our time to pick pay the price and take her, usually to a place behind the club or next door for FS.
Thanks in advance.
Joana Montenegro appears to have left the escort scene, having been around for several years. It is a loss and she was one of the rare ladies who continued to provide a good service up to the end of her tenure, despite having been around for a few years.
Mongerer88
02-09-25, 16:38
No, there isn't.
Prostitution is legal in Portugal, but the elements of it are not.
One of those elements is the maintaining of a brothel, and a strip club with rooms in which full-service occurs would be viewed as such.
Unlike parts of the United Kingdom, law enforcement does not view independents sharing a trick pad as maintaining a brothel.
And there is a cultural issue at play. There are no red-light districts or hotels where sex workers are not allowed to enter unless they are a registered guest.
There is no reason for Portuguese guys to do the strip joint nonsense. If they want to get laid, they book an appointment with an escort, go to her incall, and fuck her.
This is why there are more review boards in Europe than Latin America. Others do the looking and test runs for you.
In general, the strip joint, full-service availability or not, seems to be on the decline in Europe and in the USA And Canada. Probably the prevalence of women managerial workers and #metoo. Those places relied so heavily on corporate entertainment, and that doesn't occur as often now at a strip joint.
Hello mate,
I tried my best to go through all the pages, but still couldn't find or missed it.
Is there any places in Lisbon, which works like the Latin American style, a line up to choose and a back place for intimate action (FS).
We can walk into like a Strip / gentlemans club where you see lots of women dancing or standing, and we can take our time to pick pay the price and take her, usually to a place behind the club or next door for FS.
Thanks in advance.
I know 5'7" isn't exactly Amazon tall, but Lisbon isn't the land of tall women, so if "tall, slim and elegant" as she is described in some of the recent reviews on the local board, you might want to also take a look at local board favorite Lara Shultz. I think she has a favorable review here on ISG, also.
She isn't going to be PSE like Julia Cavalcanti, but it slim (Lara has small breasts by the way) is a big factor and a certain level of height is desired, she might be worth you considering.Thanks for the feedback. Viviane Miller looks exactly what I like, but reading all your feedbacks on.
Julia and Rebecca it looks like I would be a fool not to try them. Is CIF usually an option?
Regarding Viviane Miller, I assume her rates will be the same on apartadox and EP ?
JD.
Mongerer88
02-10-25, 21:34
I think you would be happy with those three.
Yes, Viviane's rate is the same on Apartadox as EP. Apartadox is just an ad site that EP and its ladies also use. Supposedly EP pays for the Apartadox ad for its newer ladies, but eventually the ladies pay some or all. As a result, you will often find an Apartadox ad for all ladies with a new EP profile, but for the ladies who have been on the EP roster for a while, you will only see an Apartadox ad when they plan to work a lot during the period that the ad appears.
I looked at my last WhatsApp exchange with Rebecca and she listed CIM, CIF and anal in her all-inclusive rate.
I suspect that is also the case with Julia, but you can confirm with her via Wharsapp. Most PSE providers do CIF unless they just had LASIK surgery or something like that.
Thanks for the feedback. Viviane Miller looks exactly what I like, but reading all your feedbacks on.
Julia and Rebecca it looks like I would be a fool not to try them. Is CIF usually an option?
Regarding Viviane Miller, I assume her rates will be the same on apartadox and EP ?
JD.
I didn't want this to be a negative review but there's always that moment early in the booking where you get the feeling it's not going to be good, and you're almost always right.
Anyway, Kelly arrived a little late and proceeded to roll out the hooker tricks, wasting 20 minutes in the bathroom, not making any real attempt to communicate and curling up on the bed like she was in a coma when I wasn't doing my absolute best to warm her up.
For a moment, I wondered if we were role playing that I was the escort and she was the extremely tired and distant client.
EP constantly advertises girls as being able to speak English when they can hardly utter a sentence. Not great considering the target customer is usually foreign.
On a more positive note, she has a fantastic body. Face is cute. She responded well to me going down on her and she came a few times during the sex, which seemed to catch her by surprise, but the reluctance to be there and be anything more than barely willing was obvious. I cut my losses and sent her away less than 1 hour into the two hour booking.
EP is becoming a shambles. Overpriced and the quality of the girls is all over the place, especially with so many independents out there at 150/hr for incalls.Just saw a local board review on Kelly which was much worse than mine. We'll have to call her the black Julieta Gomes at this point.
JPTraveller
02-11-25, 18:17
Same with Julia (na) - CIM, CIF and Anal are inclusive (at least she did it for me many times) but confirm via Whatsapp.
I think you would be happy with those three.
Yes, Viviane's rate is the same on Apartadox as EP. Apartadox is just an ad site that EP and its ladies also use. Supposedly EP pays for the Apartadox ad for its newer ladies, but eventually the ladies pay some or all. As a result, you will often find an Apartadox ad for all ladies with a new EP profile, but for the ladies who have been on the EP roster for a while, you will only see an Apartadox ad when they plan to work a lot during the period that the ad appears.
I looked at my last WhatsApp exchange with Rebecca and she listed CIM, CIF and anal in her all-inclusive rate.
I suspect that is also the case with Julia, but you can confirm with her via Wharsapp. Most PSE providers do CIF unless they just had LASIK surgery or something like that.
Does Lisbon have short-term hotels (like an hour) similar to what you find in Spain or Japan?
JPTraveller
02-12-25, 07:49
Both Julia (na) and Rebeca do CIF in their hourly rate.
Thanks for the feedback. Viviane Miller looks exactly what I like, but reading all your feedbacks on.
Julia and Rebecca it looks like I would be a fool not to try them. Is CIF usually an option?
Regarding Viviane Miller, I assume her rates will be the same on apartadox and EP ?
JD.
Mongerer88
02-12-25, 17:49
Headed to Porto and Lisbon in early March, and have a few ladies on my radar that I've seen on previous trip, or have seen good reviews on here.
One lady on my radar is Eva Lima, but don't see any information on her. Would love some feedback if anyone has some Thanks.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-eva-lima-6118Unfortunately, Eva Lima received a 4 out of 10 score from an experienced reviewer who is usually positive.
He said he wasn't going to dwell on the bad experience, so we shouldn't either.
Just look elsewhere. This is why we have reviews and lists of recommended providers.
Unfortunately, Eva Lima received a 4 out of 10 score from an experienced reviewer who is usually positive.
He said he wasn't going to dwell on the bad experience, so we shouldn't either.
Just look elsewhere. This is why we have reviews and lists of recommended providers.I just saw that today. I finally got back on that sight.
2025 has brought some steep inflation in the prices charged by some ladies.
Two ladies discussed regularly here have both increased prices by 20%-25%. Rebeca Diniz is now 180 for incall and Flora Neves is 250 for outcall.
The more ladies that increase their prices, the more the relative appeal of other countries for me. I'll still visit Lisbon, just a bit less than I would have planned in 2023 and earlier.
2025 has brought some steep inflation in the prices charged by some ladies.
Two ladies discussed regularly here have both increased prices by 20%-25%. Rebeca Diniz is now 180 for incall and Flora Neves is 250 for outcall.
The more ladies that increase their prices, the more the relative appeal of other countries for me. I'll still visit Lisbon, just a bit less than I would have planned in 2023 and earlier.Been exploring the independent scene recently and a lot of newer ladies are asking for 200/ h for an incall with limited services.
Flora told me her rates a few months ago and it's laughable.
Mongerer88
02-15-25, 14:17
Over time, Portugal commercial sex pricing increases have not exceeded that of most First World and Second World countries.
They fall into the trap that non-Colombians fall into. They don't do small annual increases. They do occasional large increases every once in a while.
For the ten years ending in 2022, Portugal's annual inflation was 1. 8%. Not sure if EP has been with us for 12 years, but it is close. 2023 and 2024 were among the highest inflation years in Portuguese (and world history). It took the 12 year inflation rate to over 2. 2 percent. After 10 years, the 150 euros should have gone to 180 euros. It didn't. But after 12 years, that 150 euros has gone to 210. EP is now at 200 and a bunch of upsells, which fortunately mostly involve anal. Even the upsells aren't surprising. In fact, it is surprising they didn't exist before. Throughout North American commercial sex history, the American lady always turned her face back when you gently put a lubed finger in her bottom while she is on all fours and said Oh, That is $150 Extra. The Canadian girl does the same except says Eh, That is 80 Loonies More. If we ever have acceptable sex robots, Androida will no doubt spin her head a full 180 degrees like the Chucky Doll in the horror movie and say Anal is Extra. Tap or Insert Credit Card. It has been that way for a very, very long time. Remember the old guy in the TV show Deadwood who ran the brothel. If you wanted to see Trixie, he always said $5 for regular, $10 for ass fuck.
Inflation has been similar or higher than Portugal in all of the markets I can think of with similar tourism appeal, infrastructure and sexual services. Honestly, it has been even higher in the USA, Canada, United Kingdom and Australia. Germany is its own animal. The girls are not predominately German, they are imports and they have fuck factories where economies of scale exist that are not comparable in other countries.
That brings us to Spain, a place I love. I am simply not sure if Spanish sex work inflation has gone up less than Portugal's. The inflation might have been a little bit less. It has more of an open door immigration policy than Portugal does for Venezuelans, Colombians, Ukrainians and Russians. You have some shittier economies in those countries compared to Brazil (Portugal's primary source of immigrants). That may be limiting the sex work price increases in Spain. But don't forget my first point about so many sex workers having no price increases for years, then doing a very large one.
That is less prevalent in Latina culture. They ain't offended by 5 or 10 euros.
Remember Juan Valdez, the very successful Colombian coffee farmer who appeared in Colombian coffee commercials for so long. He was humble and honest. Sure your Colombian coffee went up a buck a year.
Now let's take a look at Spain's two most popular Colombian sex workers, Maya and Melissa. They would look great topless in aprons as Jana Valdez, representing Colombian pussy (available worldwide including in Barcelona).
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/melissa-amor-colombiana-diputacion-20x-muntaner-barcelona-607479825-blog-t477891.html
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/maya-muntaner-colombiana-diputacio-20x-muntaner-barcelona-662321426-blog-t479481.html
I do believe those rates have gone up 10 or 20 euros since they hit the scene. Nobody makes a big deal out of 10 euros. That is what you pay Starbucks and Juan Valdez for a fancy cup of coffee now while waiting for Maya or Melissa to buzz you in.
Even always reasonably priced Vecinitas has bumped prices by 10 euros, I think.
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/vecinitas-bcn-diagonal-34x-girona-bcn-610194571-a-t365225.html
I really do think Spain's sex work inflation rate is slightly lower than Portugal's, but not by a significant percentage. And we are comparing it after a major Portugal bump, whereas the Latinas in Spain do more regular, small annual increases. They are onto something there from a marketing standpoint, if inflation continues to be high.
Been exploring the independent scene recently and a lot of newer ladies are asking for 200/ h for an incall with limited services.That's true. But if you do research in the local board, you'll find that there are still a lot of ladies (and good ones, which is often not the case with many of the newer ones) that have kept the standard 100/120 1 hour. As I have been saying for quite some time, Escort Privada is NOT the only site to look into.
If you browse through my posts, you'll find that there's a lot of good options.
Been exploring the independent scene recently and a lot of newer ladies are asking for 200/ h for an incall with limited services.
Flora told me her rates a few months ago and it's laughable.What do you mean by "limited services"?
That's true. But if you do research in the local board, you'll find that there are still a lot of ladies (and good ones, which is often not the case with many of the newer ones) that have kept the standard 100/120 1 hour. As I have been saying for quite some time, Escort Privada is NOT the only site to look into.
If you browse through my posts, you'll find that there's a lot of good options.Indeed. As I said, I've been contacting more independents so was adding my recent observation on pricing from newer entrants into the market. Personally, I have been going for incalls at 150/ HR or lower (Ana Luz is a recently discovered provider who I thought was well worth this price) and outcalls at 180/ HR or lower (Isadora Sousa fits into this bracket).
For the record, I have never paid less than 150/ HR and I usually book for two hours. Now that I am hoping to live in Lisbon for the rest of this year I'll be paying more attention to the local board reviews and prices.
Pecadozinho
02-15-25, 20:33
Thanks for all the great reviews and for letting us know that Juliana Cavalcanti is as great as Rebeca Diniz. Most everyone should be happy on Lisbon trips seeing those two.
Any thought on Tati Bernardi?
https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753
Anal always seems on the menu with her (slight upcharge, but she is supposedly an anal queen).
She gets fantastic reviews on the local board. I should have found a way to see her, but there are always more ladies to see than there is time.
She isn't overly friendly on WhatsApp chats, but I realize she gets lots of inquiries and isn't paid to chat. Even the locals say she is curt in Portuguese when contacting her and apparently only becomes GFE at the moment the physical part of the session starts. But she apparently loves sex and things are great from that moment on.I visited Tati Bernardi some time ago. In reality, she looks like the mother or very old sister of the Tati Bernardi as seen in photos. Those must have been taken when she was in youth scouts. A most bland experience, regrettably.
Mongerer88
02-15-25, 20:51
I just saw that today. I finally got back on that sight.Woorace,
You might take a look at Isis Nogueira.
Similar profile looks as Eva, but Isis receives nothing but fantastic reviews.
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isis-nogueira-4429
At least EP girls are still 200/ HR.
Over time, Portugal commercial sex pricing increases have not exceeded that of most First World and Second World countries.
They fall into the trap that non-Colombians fall into. They don't do small annual increases. They do occasional large increases every once in a while.
For the ten years ending in 2022, Portugal's annual inflation was 1. 8%. Not sure if EP has been with us for 12 years, but it is close. 2023 and 2024 were among the highest inflation years in Portuguese (and world history). It took the 12 year inflation rate to over 2. 2 percent. After 10 years, the 150 euros should have gone to 180 euros. It didn't. But after 12 years, that 150 euros has gone to 210. EP is now at 200 and a bunch of upsells, which fortunately mostly involve anal. Even the upsells aren't surprising. In fact, it is surprising they didn't exist before. Throughout North American commercial sex history, the American lady always turned her face back when you gently put a lubed finger in her bottom while she is on all fours and said Oh, That is $150 Extra. The Canadian girl does the same except says Eh, That is 80 Loonies More. If we ever have acceptable sex robots, Androida will no doubt spin her head a full 180 degrees like the Chucky Doll in the horror movie and say Anal is Extra. Tap or Insert Credit Card. It has been that way for a very, very long time. Remember the old guy in the TV show Deadwood who ran the brothel. If you wanted to see Trixie, he always said $5 for regular, $10 for ass fuck.
Inflation has been similar or higher than Portugal in all of the markets I can think of with similar tourism appeal, infrastructure and sexual services. Honestly, it has been even higher in the USA, Canada, United Kingdom and Australia. Germany is its own animal. The girls are not predominately German, they are imports and they have fuck factories where economies of scale exist that are not comparable in other countries.
That brings us to Spain, a place I love. I am simply not sure if Spanish sex work inflation has gone up less than Portugal's. The inflation might have been a little bit less. It has more of an open door immigration policy than Portugal does for Venezuelans, Colombians, Ukrainians and Russians. You have some shittier economies in those countries compared to Brazil (Portugal's primary source of immigrants). That may be limiting the sex work price increases in Spain. But don't forget my first point about so many sex workers having no price increases for years, then doing a very large one.
That is less prevalent in Latina culture. They ain't offended by 5 or 10 euros.
Remember Juan Valdez, the very successful Colombian coffee farmer who appeared in Colombian coffee commercials for so long. He was humble and honest. Sure your Colombian coffee went up a buck a year.
Now let's take a look at Spain's two most popular Colombian sex workers, Maya and Melissa. They would look great topless in aprons as Jana Valdez, representing Colombian pussy (available worldwide including in Barcelona).
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/melissa-amor-colombiana-diputacion-20x-muntaner-barcelona-607479825-blog-t477891.html
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/maya-muntaner-colombiana-diputacio-20x-muntaner-barcelona-662321426-blog-t479481.html
I do believe those rates have gone up 10 or 20 euros since they hit the scene. Nobody makes a big deal out of 10 euros. That is what you pay Starbucks and Juan Valdez for a fancy cup of coffee now while waiting for Maya or Melissa to buzz you in.
Even always reasonably priced Vecinitas has bumped prices by 10 euros, I think.
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/vecinitas-bcn-diagonal-34x-girona-bcn-610194571-a-t365225.html
I really do think Spain's sex work inflation rate is slightly lower than Portugal's, but not by a significant percentage. And we are comparing it after a major Portugal bump, whereas the Latinas in Spain do more regular, small annual increases. They are onto something there from a marketing standpoint, if inflation continues to be high.Some good points, but regarding Germany you can find plenty of German working girls, but many of them don't work in low-end stuff.
Yes, there's no way I'm paying 250 to see Flora. It's not a question of affordability but more that I view her rate for the service she offers, as being poor value in relative terms. I like to seek value even if I can afford the higher rates. In fact, Flora wasn't even on my list prior to the increase as reports have indicated that she lacks a bit of enthusiasm now.
Some of the rates advertised by the newer ladies on eurogirlescort are utterly ridiculous, with almost every service charged as an extra on top! There must be enough tourists willing to pay these rates, for the girls to keep them going.
Been exploring the independent scene recently and a lot of newer ladies are asking for 200/ h for an incall with limited services.
Flora told me her rates a few months ago and it's laughable.
Some great historical information there Mongerer88.
You're right, a sudden and infrequent large increase seems to hit differently than a regular small increase, even if the two approaches lead to the same end rate.
Prior to 2024, Lisbon was a clear preferred choice for me over Spain as the 150 outcall rate readily available was very competitive compared to Spain. However, Madrid and Barcelona are definitely more on my radar now with the brothels in Madrid offering incall for 100, and even Vecinitas being 120 for the hour.
Over time, Portugal commercial sex pricing increases have not exceeded that of most First World and Second World countries.
They fall into the trap that non-Colombians fall into. They don't do small annual increases. They do occasional large increases every once in a while.
For the ten years ending in 2022, Portugal's annual inflation was 1. 8%. Not sure if EP has been with us for 12 years, but it is close. 2023 and 2024 were among the highest inflation years in Portuguese (and world history). It took the 12 year inflation rate to over 2. 2 percent. After 10 years, the 150 euros should have gone to 180 euros. It didn't. But after 12 years, that 150 euros has gone to 210. EP is now at 200 and a bunch of upsells, which fortunately mostly involve anal. Even the upsells aren't surprising. In fact, it is surprising they didn't exist before. Throughout North American commercial sex history, the American lady always turned her face back when you gently put a lubed finger in her bottom while she is on all fours and said Oh, That is $150 Extra. The Canadian girl does the same except says Eh, That is 80 Loonies More. If we ever have acceptable sex robots, Androida will no doubt spin her head a full 180 degrees like the Chucky Doll in the horror movie and say Anal is Extra. Tap or Insert Credit Card. It has been that way for a very, very long time. Remember the old guy in the TV show Deadwood who ran the brothel. If you wanted to see Trixie, he always said $5 for regular, $10 for ass fuck.
Inflation has been similar or higher than Portugal in all of the markets I can think of with similar tourism appeal, infrastructure and sexual services. Honestly, it has been even higher in the USA, Canada, United Kingdom and Australia. Germany is its own animal. The girls are not predominately German, they are imports and they have fuck factories where economies of scale exist that are not comparable in other countries.
That brings us to Spain, a place I love. I am simply not sure if Spanish sex work inflation has gone up less than Portugal's. The inflation might have been a little bit less. It has more of an open door immigration policy than Portugal does for Venezuelans, Colombians, Ukrainians and Russians. You have some shittier economies in those countries compared to Brazil (Portugal's primary source of immigrants). That may be limiting the sex work price increases in Spain. But don't forget my first point about so many sex workers having no price increases for years, then doing a very large one.
That is less prevalent in Latina culture. They ain't offended by 5 or 10 euros.
Remember Juan Valdez, the very successful Colombian coffee farmer who appeared in Colombian coffee commercials for so long. He was humble and honest. Sure your Colombian coffee went up a buck a year.
Now let's take a look at Spain's two most popular Colombian sex workers, Maya and Melissa. They would look great topless in aprons as Jana Valdez, representing Colombian pussy (available worldwide including in Barcelona).
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/melissa-amor-colombiana-diputacion-20x-muntaner-barcelona-607479825-blog-t477891.html
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/maya-muntaner-colombiana-diputacio-20x-muntaner-barcelona-662321426-blog-t479481.html
I do believe those rates have gone up 10 or 20 euros since they hit the scene. Nobody makes a big deal out of 10 euros. That is what you pay Starbucks and Juan Valdez for a fancy cup of coffee now while waiting for Maya or Melissa to buzz you in.
Even always reasonably priced Vecinitas has bumped prices by 10 euros, I think.
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/vecinitas-bcn-diagonal-34x-girona-bcn-610194571-a-t365225.html
I really do think Spain's sex work inflation rate is slightly lower than Portugal's, but not by a significant percentage. And we are comparing it after a major Portugal bump, whereas the Latinas in Spain do more regular, small annual increases. They are onto something there from a marketing standpoint, if inflation continues to be high.
Mongerer88
02-16-25, 15:46
I visited Tati Bernardi some time ago. In reality, she looks like the mother or very old sister of the Tati Bernardi as seen in photos. Those must have been taken when she was in youth scouts. A most bland experience, regrettably.Thanks. Your input fits in quite nicely with the topic.
If we list the fifteen to twenty ladies most recommended in this forum, most are in their thirties and a few are pushing or past forty.
I think we are in a Golden Age since those ladies currently look great and give a fantastic performance, but like it or not as the years go on, we will see more comments about aging (and not always good comments). A long time ago one of the most prolific posters here was honest about a Portugal sex worker legend. He said she now belongs in a museum.
In today's world, you need price increases and inflation to attract younger ladies. You also need a support system, which honestly EP provides. Our Canadian reviewer friend's four favorite ladies in Lisbon are Vivian Miller, Flora Neves, Eva Melo, Estela Nunes, and Renata Alves. They all have an EP connection. Spain has a better support system for the younger ladies. It has whole shared private apartments such as Vecinitas, Teensbcn and El Eden53 that focus on the youngest ladies in the industry. The ladies Melissa and Maya that I mentioned have a working apartment with them and younger ladies from Colombia. Harry1217 is correct that Spain is a great place in terms of pricing. I think the caveat would be that at the lower price level, the English declines. With Portuguese escorts like Rebecca Diniz, you get fluent English. To me that is worth a little bit more.
But on the pricing topic, you need higher prices to attract the older teens and early twenties ladies to the industry. They are heavily subsidized now by parents, and entry-level jobs pay a lot more than they once did. People aren't on their own at 18 like they once were. This trend is worldwide, but not quite as pronounced in South America and Asia. And the Covid pandemic made people more accustomed to getting by on less, and believing the government will always have your back. Not too sure it will, myself.
I don't think, though I may be wrong, that the current generation of 18-28 year olds who have largely disappeared from commercial sex work are going to enter it. Maybe they will eventually through Seeking, but I am not sure. There is a Holy Shit moment the first time a lady knocks on a hotel room door and realizes she is going to fuck whoever opens the door. People are more receptive to Holy Shit moments when they are much younger adults.
I think we lost a mini-generation of commercial sex workers. I notice that the ladies I see in a given year have a median age that is higher than in decades past. Not complaining. They are great. But I realize that group might disappear from the scene due to life changes and I also recognize that some will age out and not be as attractive in 10-20 years. You have to see new, young talent. And in today's world, that means needing to pay higher prices to get them to knock on the door. And you also need a support system, which unfortunately is disappearing in many countries due to the trend toward independent escorting. A final thought on that is that independent escorting has some pricing barriers to entry. Advertising, transportation and incall rentals (rents are among the items with the highest inflation rate). The youngest ladies don't have the savings for that. No Kiva loan program for an aspiring 18 year old hooker. The world would have a shit hemorrhage if they saw that on the Kiva website.
And finally BatiX is correct that many German ladies do independent escorting. I checked the latest reviews on the big American escort review board, and they are charging 350 to 400 euros an hour for GFE, including BBBJ, which is 50 to 100 euros more than a few years ago. So there is inflation in that market, also.
Lisbon is still a bargain compared to most places. The current group of 30 to 40 year olds in Lisbon are fantastic, but everyone needs to see them a lot now, because there just aren't a similarly sized group of 18 to 29 year olds right behind them. I am not overly optimistic about this activity ten to twenty years from now. Hopefully I am wrong, but I think inflation will help, not hurt, in attracting younger talent. Most Johns are making ten to twenty percent more now than a few years ago. Give the hookers their fair share of that increase, or there might not be any hookers you want to see in the future.
The COVID pandemic put a big dent on the sex industry generally speaking. I disagree that girls in 18-28 range are largely ignoring the sex industry, at least in Europe and other parts of the world. There are still younger girls entering the industry, even if numbers aren't very high due to alternatives and people having fewer kids. In ApartadoX there are more 30 and under Portuguese girls advertising than 30+. As for Euro Escorts I wonder if the girls charge extras only for customers who find them on Euro Escorts websites as those same girls advertise on Portuguese websites.
Thanks. Your input fits in quite nicely with the topic.
If we list the fifteen to twenty ladies most recommended in this forum, most are in their thirties and a few are pushing or past forty.
I think we are in a Golden Age since those ladies currently look great and give a fantastic performance, but like it or not as the years go on, we will see more comments about aging (and not always good comments). A long time ago one of the most prolific posters here was honest about a Portugal sex worker legend. He said she now belongs in a museum.
....Sex work isn't just confined to prostitution, of course. An attractive 18 year old has a decent shot at getting rich through Instagram and Onlyfans than fucking random strangers, if they can handle the stigma of sacrificing anonymity. Traditional sex work will always attract young ladies lured by the freedom of fast money, but I reckon Lisbon will go the way of London where the prices have shot up and the beauty of the average provider has gone down the toilet.
I for one tend to book younger ladies in Lisbon but the best escort I've ever seen here (and anywhere else, for that matter) was well into her forties. An experienced woman over 30 who is still put together physically is going to be more memorable than any hot young thing. A woman in her forties who still has her looks is like a rare diamond with no visible flaws.
Mongerer88
02-17-25, 01:17
Sex work isn't just confined to prostitution, of course. An attractive 18 year old has a decent shot at getting rich through Instagram and Onlyfans than fucking random strangers, if they can handle the stigma of sacrificing anonymity. Traditional sex work will always attract young ladies lured by the freedom of fast money, but I reckon Lisbon will go the way of London where the prices have shot up and the beauty of the average provider has gone down the toilet.
I for one tend to book younger ladies in Lisbon but the best escort I've ever seen here (and anywhere else, for that matter) was well into her forties. An experienced woman over 30 who is still put together physically is going to be more memorable than any hot young thing. A woman in her forties who still has her looks is like a rare diamond with no visible flaws.Yes, great point on technology. That has siphoned away a lot of the youngsters.
And even some former sex workers. A former favorite of mine in Montreal is now exclusively OnlyFans.
She had told me her boyfriend was getting frustrated that she was still doing sex work the last time I saw her.
He now works the camera during some on her performances, apparently. I guess they compromised.
Agree that there are currently a fantastic group of 30 to 40 year old ladies in Lisbon, and worldwide even. And a few 40 plus.
I am just skeptical that will be the case a decade from now. Hopefully I am wrong. And I am not convinced we will all be as enthusiastic about the current group a decade from now when they are 40 to 50 plus, if they are still in the business.
There needs to always be new, young entrants in every business, including prostitution. Currently Lisbon has enough young stars to fill the needs of tourists and locals who want that age group, but the total quantity of ladies in that age group is a lot less than decades ago (compared to the total populace of sex workers).
It isn't quite as bad when you look at eurogirls, but it definitely is when you look at Apartadox.
Probably not a coincidence. The current generation coming of age wants to be very highly paid in every job there is, and they are tech savvy. They have identified eurogirls as a site where guys go who are willing to pay more, I guess.
Juliana is also all-inclusive per hour (like Rebeca Diniz). Enjoy!Hi. Got in touch with Juliana a couple of days ago and anal is (now?) an option.
Keep in mind that only Top 1% OnlyFans and Instagram models make decent amount of money. The average working girl makes more money escorting, webcaming, or sugar dating. Also while Portugal is relatively cheap developed country, people here seem to forget that rents has gone sky high in recent years like lot of cities, so it makes sense for girls to increase their rate.
Probably not a coincidence. The current generation coming of age wants to be very highly paid in every job there is, and they are tech savvy. They have identified eurogirls as a site where guys go who are willing to pay more, I guess.Is that a problem that not older people wants to be paid more?
JPTraveller
02-17-25, 20:39
Do you mean as an extra or as a possibility (definitely is a possibility) ?
Hi. Got in touch with Juliana a couple of days ago and anal is (now?) an option.
EasyBreezy123
02-17-25, 20:44
I've got an upcoming trip to Lisbon and was curious if anyone could share some insight on Daniela Matos. I'm looking for GFE / PSE.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-daniela-matos-7893
It will be my first time in Lisbon and I've already got Becky on the schedule. There are definitely a lot of good recommendations out there in the forum, but curious about the other girls on ApartadoX. My assumption is that if they're not mentioned in the forum, they're either not very good or have a misleading ad. As a first-timer it's kind of mind blowing to see this many options.
Mongerer88
02-18-25, 05:32
I've got an upcoming trip to Lisbon and was curious if anyone could share some insight on Daniela Matos. I'm looking for GFE / PSE.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-daniela-matos-7893
It will be my first time in Lisbon and I've already got Becky on the schedule. There are definitely a lot of good recommendations out there in the forum, but curious about the other girls on ApartadoX. My assumption is that if they're not mentioned in the forum, they're either not very good or have a misleading ad. As a first-timer it's kind of mind blowing to see this many options.The reviews so far for Daniela Matos are mixed.
She received an excellent 9 out of 10 in her first review on the local board from an experienced reviewer.
She then got a 5 out of 10 from an equally experienced reviewer on that local board. He didn't have anything negative to say about her. They just didn't seem to hit it off.
She is reviewed on the big American review board as a threesome with Vanessa Morais. He liked Daniela the better of the two, and said she seemed to take charge. She apparently speaks some English since that reviewer didn't mention a language barrier.
So she certainly isn't a bad choice. She is reviewed as looking like her photos and providing the advertised services.
As with any situation, some of us will like a particular lady better than others. I liked Renata Alves better than BatiX did, for instance.
Here is the translated 9 out of 10 review from the local board.
" Another positive experience from EP. This time I have to give a high note to this XXX, I know it's the first impression, but it was very good for me. I imagine, in an act of primary imbecility, what the shape of the girls would be like just by looking at the photos. I thought Daniela was very shy, but the girl is a hurricane, small and very cute in face, very fun, good company, impeccable and jovial q. Be.
I had already tried more than once to talk to her. Only this one could be arranged in the middle of the afternoon, it promises 30 minutes, it really arrived on time. I was still getting out of the shower. Another sill for them to talk to each other. I did the math wrong, I thought I had five more minutes. I open the door laughing in boxers. She also realized right away that I had been caught with my mouth in the bottle. It gave me time to get dressed and "light candles or put the rose petals on the bed" (what a punctual cutie) while going to baths with a sense of humor to the mixture. I didn't want company, I felt sorry, honestly.
Back in lingerie. Balanced shapes. We haven't been with superfluous entertainments. She kisses of category and is a delicious woman, very beautiful, I praised her several times and she liked it a lot. "Who doesn't like it?" She asks. Actually, some people. Go kiss and unveil the breasts. I prefer natural breasts, but this time I liked the set (big fried eggs in the right proportion and without being sensitive, "touch at will," she says). She does the wonderful oral and I take off her underwear while she does it. 69 was the main course (what a beautiful prolapse), I pleased her a lot, and she liked me. I had to lay her down to lick her to my liking. She breathing hard and looking me in the eyes while doing it, how wonderful to feel myself in the same sexual wave as Daniela. She comes up very roughly because "the oral is very good, but the climax I only reach in penetration" she defended. Wouldn't the mercenaries have stayed there or in theaters? And so it was, she on top of that sweating all over until she twisted a little with pleasure (I just told her to sit down and rest, she laughed and continued until she was satisfied). I felt good about myself and that only made me want even more: "now it's my turn" I say laughing and she aligning in tone, in exchanges of naughty smiles. Go on all fours, for a long time, until you notice the lubrication drying. That must be uncomfortable to be there rubbing dryly and I was afraid of not ending that way, but as she was so attentive until that moment, I gave a friend and asked "do you do a magic of yours? She wasn't on her knees on the floor oralizing with a lot of desire, great exchange of glances and smiles, what a luxury. I sat on the edge of the bed to see if it was over. But because I was holding back (I didn't really want to finish, I wanted to continue in that as far as I could) I couldn't finish. (curiously, on the site it doesn't say to do CIM, but that would end up there if I let myself be carried away and she never warned that you couldn't.) so she took her out of the trump card ("oh woman", I say out loud, and she smiled, because she knew well that I was Enjoying in the beautiful intimacy provided. She knew how to receive and then give): lying down the two kissing, for a good ten minutes, she massages Zé, with her thumb on his little head, until he feels very happy, all red with content and ruffled dripping on Daniela's little hand. I close my eyes at the climax and leave myself there for a few long seconds, while she kept the massage slowing down. She still says she has "poor experience". False modesty! He left his mark, mainly when he left the bedroom door laughing with the service more than fulfilled.
Baths, thanks and two kisses, she even left on time because the thong conversation is not her strong point. I want to see her again. What a ****! After the service, ala that death runs after us, and so it's fine, the conversation is sometimes forced, you might as well bazaar and go back to more interesting activities.
Very good indeed (attention, for me, I don't know what will happen in the future, read the experience from your distance and as always, with some cynicism, I do the same), don't leave the service halfway and I think the little one is very beautiful (I love small women), the breasts very well made and a lip prolapse that makes you want to spend hours there licking (for her height, just over a meter and a half, I found the cherry on top). For me, a solid 9 (again, beautiful fit, in my opinion), I'm sure if I had asked you for the socks and wore them in the room (I'm a beast, why didn't I ask for it.) that would go up to ten in the good. The girl is very beautiful. What a laroca face (and she came in such a tight dress. Fds, what a beautiful choice, and what a surprise. I want to give more in the evaluation but conscience does not allow it: I dreamed of the clash that night. But that's me who likes them like this: dedicated, short, with few words and great naughty acts, colorful friend style).
For first impression, it passes in the specialty, yes ma'am (even if it's for the dedication at such a young age, contrasting with the type of services that you generally feel and hear around). Good luck to the brotherhod. ".
https://escortprivada.com/escort/daniela-matos/
Do you mean as an extra or as a possibility (definitely is a possibility) ?As an extra.
JPTraveller
02-18-25, 09:34
I tend to do longer bookings with her (and outcalls) so maybe it was included then. In any case, worth it.
As an extra.
I've got an upcoming trip to Lisbon and was curious if anyone could share some insight on Daniela Matos. I'm looking for GFE / PSE.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-daniela-matos-7893
It will be my first time in Lisbon and I've already got Becky on the schedule. There are definitely a lot of good recommendations out there in the forum, but curious about the other girls on ApartadoX. My assumption is that if they're not mentioned in the forum, they're either not very good or have a misleading ad. As a first-timer it's kind of mind blowing to see this many options.Seen her a few times. Physically, she's in her late 30's with a good gym toned body and bolt on tits which are very hard. Facially, she's not bad looking but I think most guys would say she looks masculine, although she is a very feminine lady overall.
Sexually, it's a vanilla service. Pleasurable without being mind blowing.
Overall, if you're looking for an outcall I think there are better options within Escort Privada and for Daniela's type of look, there are lots of options across the various sites. Ladies with solid reputations etc.
Still on a quest through the independent scene, I stumbled across Lina's profile, had a little chat about particulars on Whatsapp and promptly headed off to her incall location.
Lina is exactly the petite and sexy senorita in the photos on her profile. Whatever editing those have gone through is minimal. One caveat, however; her fantastic breasts are in fact enhanced and not natural as claimed in the ad.
Her English is very good and without going into too many details, her performance in bed was a solid GFE. I enjoyed her oral so much I opted to let her finish me off with her mouth, which I usually never go for.
Unfortunately, it's her first time in Lisbon and she's heading back to Spain tomorrow. Hopefully she'll be back for another visit soon.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lina/642161/
Some good looking girls on Euro Girls Escort. If had to pick one to try it be Liliana:https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/liliana/617012/?list=vhbd6q.
Thanks to everyone here for the valuable information and reports. Your insights made my decision much easier. I narrowed my choices down to Becky Diniz, Viviane Miller (shoutout to Mongerer88 for these two recommendations), and Alina Alvarez (thanks to PER23 for the input). I also wanted to try a quick incall, so I went with Lara Shultz. Detailed report to follow on each.
Setting up was very easy over WhatsAppshe's very prompt with replies. After a long flight with delays, I opted for a 30-minute session as a less risky choice. She works out of a converted parking garage with small rooms; her space includes a stall for a quick freshen-up. She started with a solid BBBJ (her signature) before moving on to regular sex. We tried multiple positions, starting with her on top, then bottom, and finally on all fours. Afterward, I took a quick shower and said my goodbyes.
Facially, she's just okay and not a great looker, but she has a great bodysmall tits, nice ass, and very smooth skin. Rates are 70 for 30 min, 130 for 60 min. Not a bad option overall.
https://www.classificadosx.net/es/an...orpo-perfeito-
https://www.classificadosx.net/es/an...ivio-desinibid
I contacted her about a week and a half before my trip and set up an appointment. Communication was super easy over WhatsAppshe's very professional and prompt in her replies, which made scheduling hassle-free. She confirmed the booking a day before, and on the morning of the meet, she even sent a reminder.
When I arrived at her place, I found a very neat apartment with a clean and well-kept bathroom. But the real highlight? When Becky opened the door, I knew I had made the right choice. She is very beautiful with a perfect bodynice naturals, a tight ass, and great height in heels.
The experience was amazing, easily one of the best encounters I've had. You get the full hour. The first round lasted about 20-25 minutes, followed by some pillow talk. She shared stories about her recent travels, and all the while, I couldn't keep my hands off her ass. She even encouraged me to squeeze it and gently bite it, which I gladly did.
She quoted 180 for her regular services and 200 with anal. I opted for the latter and really enjoyed it. The entire experience was worth every pennyto the point that I felt like I got an amazing deal.
With about 10 minutes left, I asked for a second round, and she happily obliged. It was just as memorable, and we even ran over by a few minutesshe didn't mind at all. Overall, a fantastic experience, and a huge thanks to everyone here, especially Mongerer88, for recommending her!
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-...eca-diniz-6364
Another recommendation from this forum. I contacted her 10 days before to schedule, but she asked me to reach out 2-3 days prior instead. When I messaged her two days before, we set up a time and day.
All communication was over WhatsApp, but she wasn't as prompt as Becky. She would sometimes stop responding mid-conversation but always replied later. She came across as sweet but also somewhat cold, asking a lot of questions. As part of the standard EP girl procedure, she asked for a picture of my room key.
The day before the meeting, I confirmed again, and she responded very latearound midnightasking if we could meet earlier. I gave her the earliest time I could manage around my meetings. The next day, I didn't hear from her, so I pinged her again to confirm. She responded but was curious about why my key card said "room for 2 people. " I explained that I had booked a double room to receive guests but was staying alone. She understood, and we finalized the time.
Then, about an hour later, she asked if we could move the meeting to later in the evening. After my immediate response, there was a long pause, and I started thinking the meeting wasn't going to happenthese felt like excuses. Eventually, she came back saying, "Never mind, let's go with the agreed-upon slot. ".
I asked her to ping me when she arrived since my hotel had a doorman and front desk right at the entrance, and they were greeting / talking to everyone who entered. It was a boutique hotel, so the staff was very friendlymaybe next time, I'll book a bigger chain hotel to avoid the extra attention.
She pinged me once she arrived, so I went outside to bring her in. While I was standing there, not knowing who to expect, I suddenly saw a stunning girl with curly hair, a woolen skirt, a nice sweater, and black stockings running toward me, crossing the road. I couldn't believe my eyesshe was absolutely beautiful, and I felt incredibly happy.
We walked inside and got to my room. She was amazing throughoutgave me a warm hug, complimented the size of my room, and then went to take a shower. When she came out, she was standing there in just her bra and panties, and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. She has an absolutely perfect bodythin waist, amazing naturals, and a perfect ass.
Her service was amazing. She started with a nice BJ, and she has a special technique where she keeps rolling her tongue on the tipit felt incredible. The view of her riding me on top with her boobs bouncing was something I won't forget. We also switched to me on top, and then finished on all fours.
She allowed FIV and even put on lube for me. I was able to finger her to my satisfaction, which was a big plus.
Afterward, we relaxed for a bit, and she shared stories about herselfher life, her university experience, and her work. She was super engaging and intelligent, making the whole experience even better.
We went for a second round, but she asked me to take a shower first. She also took a shower after the first round, which I appreciated for hygiene. I obliged, and the second round was another great experience. By the time I finished, we had hit the hour mark. She quickly took another shower before leaving.
After our meeting, we kept chatting on WhatsApp, and she was really sweetoffering to help and recommending other good options from EP. I appreciated that. Looking back, I realized she has a young and lively personality, which made our chats feel different from what I expected. I had assumed a more mature conversation like I had with Becky, but that was on me. In the end, her energy and kindness made the experience unique and enjoyable in its own way.
Overall, an amazing encounter100% worth it.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/
This was a recommendation from PER23, and I have to say another gem. She is very prompt with responses, making scheduling incredibly easy.
I didn't reach out before my trip since I wasn't sure if I could fit her in. But when I finally contacted her, she replied immediately. One evening, I thought I had time but had to cancel, and she was very understanding. Another evening, I had a tight window and reached out again. She responded instantly, and we set up a meeting for an hour and a half later. She arrived five minutes early, which I really appreciated.
I went down to pick her up, and from the start, she was sweet, polite, and full of youthful energy another young 18-20-year-old with a great attitude.
Once we got to the room, we took a shower together, where she washed herself and then washed me. She then surprised me with a BBBJ in the shower my first time experiencing that, and it was amazing.
After stepping out, she continued with a BJ in front of the big mirror me standing, her on her knees, giving me an unforgettable view.
Then we moved to the bed, where she continued with the BJ before transitioning into multiple positions. I finally finished, this time on her face and boobs.
We took another shower together, and she asked if I was a one-shot or multiple-round guy. I told her I'd like another round, and she was happy to oblige.
Back in bed, we had a nice cuddle and pillow talk, and I really liked how naturally she eased into the second round while we were chatting. The second session was just as great and lasted up to the hour.
A quick shower afterward, and we said our goodbyes. Overall, a fantastic experience, and I would definitely recommend her.
She may not be as strikingly pretty as Viviane (though still very beautiful), but her attitude, experience, and amazing body make her stand out just as much.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/alina-alvares/
I would say Lisbon is an excellent mongering option. The outcall option here is the best, with so many great girls to choose from. If I look back, I could have chosen outcall with another EP girl over visiting Lara Shultz on my first night. Nothing bad about Lara but mainly the convience of you relaxing at your hotel and the girl showing up at your place. In call adds another hour and half to the encounter.
All the girls I saw showed great attitude and were willing to please. Will definitely add Lisbon to my list of placed to visit for mongering. And, thanks to all the folks who have been actively contributing to this forum, please keep them coming as it helps people like me.
I would say Lisbon is an excellent mongering option. The outcall option here is the best, with so many great girls to choose from. If I look back, I could have chosen outcall with another EP girl over visiting Lara Shultz on my first night. Nothing bad about Lara but mainly the convience of you relaxing at your hotel and the girl showing up at your place. In call adds another hour and half to the encounter.
All the girls I saw showed great attitude and were willing to please. Will definitely add Lisbon to my list of placed to visit for mongering. And, thanks to all the folks who have been actively contributing to this forum, please keep them coming as it helps people like me.Excellent reviews. The current EP roster is diverse but quite weak at the moment. Alina and Viviane are the stars in that lineup. I've seen 17 of the ladies on the site and would also recommend Renata Alves and Helena Cardoso. Beyond that, I think there are better options with independent ladies on other sites at these prices.
Still interested in some of the newer EP names if anyone has info:
- Ema Batista
- Flavia Boanova
- Susana Cruz
- Marina Luz
- Micaela Martins
Mongerer88
02-21-25, 01:10
Thanks for all of those great reviews, Austin28. It is heartwarming when the thread works the way it is supposed to.
Per23, I just wondered if you have seen Estela Nunes? She was a favorite of a Canadian reviewer and she got an 8 out of 10 on her one local review board. Her pictures are very hot, but I am not sure how much they are glossed up. She is reviewed as being young, like late teens or early 20's.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/estela-nunes/
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-estela-nunes-8485
And good to know from BaltiX that Eurogirls does have many profiles from youngsters, even at a higher price point. That alleviates some of my concerns about the scene a decade or two from now. Although if they are wanting 200-250 euros an hour at 18-21, there will certainly continue to be inflation in the future. I guess they sat in the back of math class a few years ago scrolling through escort sites for when they are old enough and saw that eurogirls has more ladies their age advertising at higher prices. So they can make more doing fewer guys. They were probably like, too cool, I just actually used math in real life.
Excellent reviews. The current EP roster is diverse but quite weak at the moment. Alina and Viviane are the stars in that lineup. I've seen 17 of the ladies on the site and would also recommend Renata Alves and Helena Cardoso. Beyond that, I think there are better options with independent ladies on other sites at these prices.
Still interested in some of the newer EP names if anyone has info:
- Ema Batista
- Flavia Boanova
- Susana Cruz
- Marina Luz
- Micaela Martins
Thanks for all of those great reviews, Austin28. It is heartwarming when the thread works the way it is supposed to.
Per23, I just wondered if you have seen Estela Nunes? She was a favorite of a Canadian reviewer and she got an 8 out of 10 on her one local review board. Her pictures are very hot, but I am not sure how much they are glossed up. She is reviewed as being young, like late teens or early 20's.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/estela-nunes/
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-estela-nunes-8485
And good to know from BaltiX that Eurogirls does have many profiles from youngsters, even at a higher price point. That alleviates some of my concerns about the scene a decade or two from now. Although if they are wanting 200-250 euros an hour at 18-21, there will certainly continue to be inflation in the future. I guess they sat in the back of math class a few years ago scrolling through escort sites for when they are old enough and saw that eurogirls has more ladies their age advertising at higher prices. So they can make more doing fewer guys. They were probably like, too cool, I just actually used math in real life.
Yes, I've seen her once and the review is here http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2963775#post2963775.
Absolutely gorgeous young lady and the photos are accurate and minimally edited. I'd actually say she's hotter in the flesh with a very beautiful face and no older than 22. Service was enthusiastic but not mind blowing. She also didn't speak any English which interrupts the flow of the booking somewhat, although this might have changed in the past few months. Slight caveat that I only saw her for an hour and I normally book for two, so I may not have got her at her most open and relaxed.
I liked her a lot but probably wouldn't repeat at these prices.
Hi, I will be in Lisbon next week. Could you recommend some black / African good-looking ladies to meet (GFE, below 200/ h incall rate). I went back through the forum, but it is difficult to find what I am looking for without opening every single link (in this year's threads I just found Sheila, with a mixed review. https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sheila/301585/?list=9vhxpd).
All tips highly appreciated!
Yes, I've seen her once and the review is here http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2963775#post2963775.
Absolutely gorgeous young lady and the photos are accurate and minimally edited. I'd actually say she's hotter in the flesh with a very beautiful face and no older than 22. Service was enthusiastic but not mind blowing. She also didn't speak any English which interrupts the flow of the booking somewhat, although this might have changed in the past few months. Slight caveat that I only saw her for an hour and I normally book for two, so I may not have got her at her most open and relaxed.
I liked her a lot but probably wouldn't repeat at these prices.Definitely missed out on her. I had her on my back up list. Hopefully she is still around until my next visit.
Mongerer88
02-22-25, 03:06
I am bumping a review for Jason Hunt.
Harry1217 gave Debora Dias a very good review that you can read below. Debora Dias changed her name to Raquel Costa.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/
EP is outcall only, and you mentioned incall.
For what it is worth, Rebeca Diniz, who I think is simply the best escort in Lisbon, has a skin time that is a slight shade darker than her photos.
They are actual and accurate photos, but it is not unusual for ladies of all colors to make themselves just lightly tanned in ad photos. I was under the impression that Flora Neves was relatively dark skinned based on many of her photos but Harry1217 indicated that she is white.
Rebecca has incall and based on Austin28's review her incall rate is in your desired range.
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364
Catching up on some reviews from a recent trip. All EP ladies who came to my hotel for 150 for an hour.
Flora Neves.
I had the pleasure of seeing Flora Neves, who in the last few days appears to have left the escort scene. I thought I would give some feedback on the very slim chance she returns.
In a nutshell, as good as it gets! A pretty girl. Bit of a 'girl next door' look but not many would be disappointed. She looks around 19-20 and is one of the few who I'd say actually looks better in the flesh. She has a bit of meat on her which I do like. As for the service, aside from her DFK being slightly restricted, nothing was off bounds although I didn't ask about anal or rimming. She's fetish friendly, there was great oral both ways, plenty of kissing (albeit not DFK) and she positioned herself during the intercourse to enable maximum penetration in all positions. Almost got the impression she was enjoying herself! No complaints from her about anything or saying that she was too sensitive etc etc. I gather that she had been escorting for over a year, so it was great that she was still enthusiastic. The part where she grabbed a pillow of her own will and went and kneeled on it near the long mirror, to give me a blowjob, will live long in the memory.
She said during the meet that she "doesn't need to escort" and was only doing minimal hours. A terrible shame that she's packed up altogether, I'm kicking myself that I didn't see her earlier. There doesn't appear to be an abundance of pretty young Portuguese girls who'll deliver all services with enthusiasm.
Debora Dias.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/
Another very good meet for an hour. She bears a close resemblance to the EP pictures in the football top. Probably 20-22 years old. I was happy when I first saw her and equally happy when she undressed; perhaps I'd have preferred slightly more curves in an ideal world, with a bit less athleticism, but I didn't really have any complaints about her body.
A bit like Flora, service delivered with enthusiasm. The only slight downside was she wasn't comfortable with sucking of her nipples - she didn't say anything but kept moving her body slightly (and I was gentle). However, everything else was great; wonderful DFK, deep blowjob for a good 20 minutes with a great CIM finish at the end of the session, and comfortable with all positions! She asked if I wanted anal but I declined as I barely find the time for it on 1 hour meets, preferring other things. We went over the hour by a few minutes, with absolutely no clock watching.
A lovely girl and someone I'the probably see again (would definitely see if she was comfortable with us playing with her breasts).
Daniela Matos.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/daniela-matos/
She was someone I saw purely on account of other ladies being unavailable. The lady I'd initially arranged to see messaged me in the morning to say she had to go to another city for the day (but gave me 7 or 8 hours' notice so no complaints), and other ladies I'd shortlisted were also unavailable (some of them already booked, some not working that day, and others no response).
Hard to predict her age; I'd guess around 30 but it's with no conviction. Daniela is not my type with the fake breasts, but she allowed her breasts to be played with freely. I have to say I wasn't too disappointed with the rest of her body - thick long hair, a nice ass, and a flat stomach. Facially she's neither pretty nor unattractive.
This was a highly energetic session, she liked it hard and kept encouraging me to pull her hair and slap her ass during the intercourse. Engaged in a bit of orgasm denial as well (she didn't actually orgasm at all!). Her blowjob was great, was able to direct her to going really deep to the extent she was almost gagging! I actually had to get her to go easy at one point as I didn't want to finish from the blowjob. I don't know if she offers CIM as I never got around to it, but I've got a feeling she doesn't as it's not listed in her online profiles.
I wouldn't see Daniela again as there are several other ladies I'm keen to see and find more attractive on the pics, but her service was very good.
Hi, I will be in Lisbon next week. Could you recommend some black / African good-looking ladies to meet (GFE, below 200/ h incall rate). I went back through the forum, but it is difficult to find what I am looking for without opening every single link (in this year's threads I just found Sheila, with a mixed review. https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sheila/301585/?list=9vhxpd).
All tips highly appreciated!There aren't that many options where the lady has a number of reviews. There are 4 black ladies at Escort Privada who are 200/ h for an outcall. I've seen two of them, Raquel Costa and Kelly Prata. I wouldn't recommend either at those prices. Both were quite attractive with excellent bodies but the service ranged from subpar (Raquel) to terrible (Kelly).
Yes, reports across the various boards indicate that Raquel Costa (ex Debora Dias) isn't a bad choice, although note PER23's comment below that he had a subpar service.
Also just to highlight that those reviews Mongerer88 has quoted below are well over a year old. Things have changed and I wouldn't recommend Flora Neves now, even if she was a black lady as per the requirement in the original post; a few comments about an average service overall including not delivering advertised services, and her price is higher than lots of other ladies.
Rafaela Ouro on the EP roster is one that I'm going to throw the dice with when next there. She got a reasonably detailed comment on eurogirlescort about having a banging body but not honouring all of her inclusive services, which really isn't great (although i'd take comments on eurogirlescort with a pinch of salt for numerous reasons). Very much a bit of a risk though.
I am bumping a review for Jason Hunt.
Harry1217 gave Debora Dias a very good review that you can read below. Debora Dias changed her name to Raquel Costa.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/
EP is outcall only, and you mentioned incall.
For what it is worth, Rebeca Diniz, who I think is simply the best escort in Lisbon, has a skin time that is a slight shade darker than her photos.
They are actual and accurate photos, but it is not unusual for ladies of all colors to make themselves just lightly tanned in ad photos. I was under the impression that Flora Neves was relatively dark skinned based on many of her photos but Harry1217 indicated that she is white.
Rebecca has incall and based on Austin28's review her incall rate is in your desired range.
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364
Nuria Gomes, currently on the EP roster, got a great review here by an experienced and senior member. He absolutely loved her, although the review is just over a year old. A year can be a long time and things may have changed now. She also got an average review on the local board but that is almost two years old so even less relevant.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/nuria-gomes/
If I was very keen to see a black lady and didn't want to go completely in the dark, I'd probably give her a go. Note however that she only does outcall (like Raquel Costa) and the damage will be 200. Personally, I much prefer Rafaela's Ouro's body and I'd rather take a risk with her.
Hi, I will be in Lisbon next week. Could you recommend some black / African good-looking ladies to meet (GFE, below 200/ h incall rate). I went back through the forum, but it is difficult to find what I am looking for without opening every single link (in this year's threads I just found Sheila, with a mixed review. https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sheila/301585/?list=9vhxpd).
All tips highly appreciated!
Irina Cruz has a review now in the local Portuguese forum. It's a negative one, but it comes from a user who just registered almost a month ago with 3 posts, and only reviewed one previous girl. I couldn't understand much what he is saying, but this is the description:
I liked the girls' photos and that's what made me call however regret came at the end came a girl that besides coming late something that doesn't even care, but that must have to compensate in bed for me to apologize the delay. Dressed normal even does not make me confused because I like ladds dressed in a sporty way. However, empathy was zero from the first moment, lay in bed without moving like an inflatable doll without reaction. I try to pull for him kiss his breasts lightly play the vulva but nothing. I said right away to me "forget" I sent her to spread her legs and got in until she stifled, sent her to run and stay on all fours and she could not stand it or her, and I came to me in the condom. It was a flavorless Queca. The girl is neither ugly nor beautiful has some bubbles in the face and a belly things that do not make me confusion if the performance in bed was better and was not a dead fly.Link to girl:https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-irina-cruz-8435
Mongerer88
02-22-25, 22:14
Nuria Gomes, currently on the EP roster, got a great review here by an experienced and senior member. He absolutely loved her, although the review is just over a year old. A year can be a long time and things may have changed now. She also got an average review on the local board but that is almost two years old so even less relevant.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/nuria-gomes/
If I was very keen to see a black lady and didn't want to go completely in the dark, I'd probably give her a go. Note however that she only does outcall (like Raquel Costa) and the damage will be 200. Personally, I much prefer Rafaela's Ouro's body and I'd rather take a risk with her.Yes, thanks, I forgot that Nuria Gomes received an excellent review here on ISG.
The guy on the local board who did a 6 out of 10 review of Nuria did an 8 out of 10 review of Raquel Costa / Debora Dias, so I think Raquel is still a solid choice. But Nuria is, too.
But that same local board reviewer did a 10 out of 10 for Rebeca Diniz and a 9 out of 10 for Vivian Miller.
I can't help but ask the obvious of Jason Hunt.
Why does the lady have to be black, or black enough?
If you are seeing one lady, why not select based on consistent top-notch review scores, as opposed to skin color?
Yes, thanks for clearing up the slight confusion in my post about Nuria Gomes. When I said I'd give Nuria a go, it wouldn't be ahead of Raquel. Raquel would be the one to try first in my opinion.
I don't think wanting a black girl is an unusual request by the poster, in the same way that some men only want to see Caucasian girls. There has been the odd comment here about people not being into black girls.
If you look on the Africa forums, you'll find many comments by men saying how they love black girls' bodies and that Africa is heaven for them. The most common reference is to 'curvy' bodies. Similarly, black men are perceived by some to be very well endowed and many women have a thing for that.
In the world of dating, 'fetishization' for one ethnicity or skin colour is viewed negatively. In the world of seeing escorts, however, it's far more understandable.
As someone who likes both black and Caucasian ladies, I can see that plenty of white skinned ladies have equally nice bodies (could name plenty in Lisbon). However, when someone has a strong preference for black ladies, they may not see it like that.
Yes, thanks, I forgot that Nuria Gomes received an excellent review here on ISG.
The guy on the local board who did a 6 out of 10 review of Nuria did an 8 out of 10 review of Raquel Costa / Debora Dias, so I think Raquel is still a solid choice. But Nuria is, too.
But that same local board reviewer did a 10 out of 10 for Rebeca Diniz and a 9 out of 10 for Vivian Miller.
I can't help but ask the obvious of Jason Hunt.
Why does the lady have to be black, or black enough?
If you are seeing one lady, why not select based on consistent top-notch review scores, as opposed to skin color?
Just got done seeing Rita for an excellent outcall at my apartment.
I definitely have a thing for the Portuguese sexy student type and Rita fit the bill perfectly. Imagine my surprise when she showed up in the uber and I slowly realised that I had actually seen her 2 years ago when she was on the same site under a different name.
Anyway, without going into too much detail Rita has a mix of both sultry and girl next door features with a petite yet curvy body. Her ass in particular is out of this world, a marvel to behold in doggy. She does everything with passion, delivers an amazing no hands BJ and is a wonderful conversationalist with perfect English and a very sharp mind.
Highly recommended.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/rita-silva
Mongerer88
03-01-25, 22:05
Great find. I guess there are a few independent youngsters that don't use Eurogirls as an advertising site and charge the premium usually seen with that website.
Just got done seeing Rita for an excellent outcall at my apartment.
I definitely have a thing for the Portuguese sexy student type and Rita fit the bill perfectly. Imagine my surprise when she showed up in the uber and I slowly realised that I had actually seen her 2 years ago when she was on the same site under a different name.
Anyway, without going into too much detail Rita has a mix of both sultry and girl next door features with a petite yet curvy body. Her ass in particular is out of this world, a marvel to behold in doggy. She does everything with passion, delivers an amazing no hands BJ and is a wonderful conversationalist with perfect English and a very sharp mind.
Highly recommended.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/rita-silva
Just got done seeing Rita for an excellent outcall at my apartment.
I definitely have a thing for the Portuguese sexy student type and Rita fit the bill perfectly. Imagine my surprise when she showed up in the uber and I slowly realised that I had actually seen her 2 years ago when she was on the same site under a different name.
Anyway, without going into too much detail Rita has a mix of both sultry and girl next door features with a petite yet curvy body. Her ass in particular is out of this world, a marvel to behold in doggy. She does everything with passion, delivers an amazing no hands BJ and is a wonderful conversationalist with perfect English and a very sharp mind.
Highly recommended.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/rita-silvaShe looks great, especially her ass. Thanks for the report and recommendation.
CanuckGuy85
03-03-25, 04:24
Another recommendation from this forum. I contacted her 10 days before to schedule, but she asked me to reach out 2-3 days prior instead. When I messaged her two days before, we set up a time and day.
All communication was over WhatsApp, but she wasn't as prompt as Becky. She would sometimes stop responding mid-conversation but always replied later. She came across as sweet but also somewhat cold, asking a lot of questions. As part of the standard EP girl procedure, she asked for a picture of my room key.
The day before the meeting, I confirmed again, and she responded very latearound midnightasking if we could meet earlier. I gave her the earliest time I could manage around my meetings. The next day, I didn't hear from her, so I pinged her again to confirm. She responded but was curious about why my key card said "room for 2 people. " I explained that I had booked a double room to receive guests but was staying alone. She understood, and we finalized the time.
Then, about an hour later, she asked if we could move the meeting to later in the evening. After my immediate response, there was a long pause, and I started thinking the meeting wasn't going to happenthese felt like excuses. Eventually, she came back saying, "Never mind, let's go with the agreed-upon slot. ".
I asked her to ping me when she arrived since my hotel had a doorman and front desk right at the entrance, and they were greeting / talking to everyone who entered. It was a boutique hotel, so the staff was very friendlymaybe next time, I'll book a bigger chain hotel to avoid the extra attention.
She pinged me once she arrived, so I went outside to bring her in. While I was standing there, not knowing who to expect, I suddenly saw a stunning girl with curly hair, a woolen skirt, a nice sweater, and black stockings running toward me, crossing the road. I couldn't believe my eyesshe was absolutely beautiful, and I felt incredibly happy.
We walked inside and got to my room. She was amazing throughoutgave me a warm hug, complimented the size of my room, and then went to take a shower. When she came out, she was standing there in just her bra and panties, and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. She has an absolutely perfect bodythin waist, amazing naturals, and a perfect ass.
Her service was amazing. She started with a nice BJ, and she has a special technique where she keeps rolling her tongue on the tipit felt incredible. The view of her riding me on top with her boobs bouncing was something I won't forget. We also switched to me on top, and then finished on all fours.
She allowed FIV and even put on lube for me. I was able to finger her to my satisfaction, which was a big plus.
Afterward, we relaxed for a bit, and she shared stories about herselfher life, her university experience, and her work. She was super engaging and intelligent, making the whole experience even better.
We went for a second round, but she asked me to take a shower first. She also took a shower after the first round, which I appreciated for hygiene. I obliged, and the second round was another great experience. By the time I finished, we had hit the hour mark. She quickly took another shower before leaving.
After our meeting, we kept chatting on WhatsApp, and she was really sweetoffering to help and recommending other good options from EP. I appreciated that. Looking back, I realized she has a young and lively personality, which made our chats feel different from what I expected. I had assumed a more mature conversation like I had with Becky, but that was on me. In the end, her energy and kindness made the experience unique and enjoyable in its own way.
Overall, an amazing encounter100% worth it.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/She is a gem seen her many times and I can never get enough of her.
Just got done seeing Rita for an excellent outcall at my apartment.
I definitely have a thing for the Portuguese sexy student type and Rita fit the bill perfectly. Imagine my surprise when she showed up in the uber and I slowly realised that I had actually seen her 2 years ago when she was on the same site under a different name.
Anyway, without going into too much detail Rita has a mix of both sultry and girl next door features with a petite yet curvy body. Her ass in particular is out of this world, a marvel to behold in doggy. She does everything with passion, delivers an amazing no hands BJ and is a wonderful conversationalist with perfect English and a very sharp mind.
Highly recommended.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/rita-silvaWhat are her rates?
I wonder why those independents (at least the verified ones) don't use ApartadoX.
CanuckGuy85
03-04-25, 00:49
Was in Lisbon last month and had another great trip I managed to see Viviane Miler again a few more times and also saw Ines Vaz as well a couple more times while I was there. I won't get into details since I've seen them both multiple times now other than that they are both great providers and I will definitely try and see them both again next time I'm in Lisbon if their still available. Also managed to see Estela Nunes twice while I was there as I've had my eye on her ever since she appeared on EP and she is another one that I plan on seeing again next time I'm in Lisbon if she is still available. She's very attractive with a sexy seductive face and a great natural body along with a very sweet friendly attitude. A great kisser and very receptive to DATY as I managed to give her a few shuddering orgasms as I was eating out her beautiful tasty pussy where if she wasn't faking it she is a great actor. Rides like a champ in cowgirl and her pussy is very tight, had a great time with her both times I saw her. I really wanted to see Eva Mello while I was there since she is another one that I had my eye on since she appeared on EP but unfortunately she was not available while I was in Lisbon but I will definitely try to see her next time I'm in Lisbon if she's available.
Was in Lisbon last month and had another great trip I managed to see Viviane Miler again a few more times and also saw Ines Vaz as well a couple more times while I was there. I won't get into details since I've seen them both multiple times now other than that they are both great providers and I will definitely try and see them both again next time I'm in Lisbon if their still available. Also managed to see Estela Nunes twice while I was there as I've had my eye on her ever since she appeared on EP and she is another one that I plan on seeing again next time I'm in Lisbon if she is still available. She's very attractive with a sexy seductive face and a great natural body along with a very sweet friendly attitude. A great kisser and very receptive to DATY as I managed to give her a few shuddering orgasms as I was eating out her beautiful tasty pussy where if she wasn't faking it she is a great actor. Rides like a champ in cowgirl and her pussy is very tight, had a great time with her both times I saw her. I really wanted to see Eva Mello while I was there since she is another one that I had my eye on since she appeared on EP but unfortunately she was not available while I was in Lisbon but I will definitely try to see her next time I'm in Lisbon if she's available.Great reviews, and thanks for sharing. Estella is someone I missed during my trip. Would definitely would like to see her, hopefully she sticks around.
Met her once and had a good time. Haven't been able to get in touch with her since. Has anyone seen her since new year's?
Eva Mello is rarely available. You should contact her a couple of weeks before you go, to have a better chance of scheduling a meet.
I really wanted to see Eva Mello while I was there since she is another one that I had my eye on since she appeared on EP but unfortunately she was not available while I was in Lisbon but I will definitely try to see her next time I'm in Lisbon if she's available.
CanuckGuy85
03-10-25, 01:29
Eva Mello is rarely available. You should contact her a couple of weeks before you go, to have a better chance of scheduling a meet.Yep will do that next next time I go to Lisbon to try and arrange something in advance if she's still available.
Thanks for the details, didn't much realize it.
Apart from that, other than Asia, all other parts of the world, the new pretty girls are all into SD's and SA.
The good old days are never going to come back!! Unless we win a lottery!!
No, there isn't.
Prostitution is legal in Portugal, but the elements of it are not.
One of those elements is the maintaining of a brothel, and a strip club with rooms in which full-service occurs would be viewed as such.
Unlike parts of the United Kingdom, law enforcement does not view independents sharing a trick pad as maintaining a brothel.
And there is a cultural issue at play. There are no red-light districts or hotels where sex workers are not allowed to enter unless they are a registered guest.
There is no reason for Portuguese guys to do the strip joint nonsense. If they want to get laid, they book an appointment with an escort, go to her incall, and fuck her.
This is why there are more review boards in Europe than Latin America. Others do the looking and test runs for you.
In general, the strip joint, full-service availability or not, seems to be on the decline in Europe and in the USA And Canada. Probably the prevalence of women managerial workers and #metoo. Those places relied so heavily on corporate entertainment, and that doesn't occur as often now at a strip joint.
Mongerer88
03-20-25, 12:22
Thanks for the details, didn't much realize it.
Apart from that, other than Asia, all other parts of the world, the new pretty girls are all into SD's and SA.
The good old days are never going to come back!! Unless we win a lottery!!The system in Portugal works for most of us, and it is honestly the standard system (independent escorts who share a trick pad with other ladies and do outcall, Sugar Babies, and escort services), throughout most of Western Europe, North America and Oceania. The ladies seem to prefer the appointment system since it reduces their "down time" of soliciting sex via dancing and talking to men at the venues you described previously, which allows them more time for other things they find enjoyable in life, which can include studying and other vocational training. Society likes that, and in fact not having large, known, public sex establishments helps with allowing sex work to invisibly coexist with the many who disapprove of it.
The guys here work very hard to provide recommendations and accurate descriptions of the ages, looks and descriptions of the ladies, since there are no venues for them all to parade themselves in front of you, strip, and speak to you for a few moments before choosing one of them.
Perhaps you can change things. I would suggest that you start with food, and maybe it will catch on with European, North American, and Australian women. Many Brazilian restaurants, at least the ones in the USA, seem to have a server parade each cut of meat in front of customers via a rolling cart, and the customer can decide whether or not to eat a slice of that meat. You can go to a Portuguese restaurant in Lisbon, hand the menu back to them, and ask them to parade around all of their cooked offerings while you sit, and you will choose the ones you want. Not sure it will work out well for you, but you can try.
Over the years, Lara Schultz has been on my list to see in Lisbon, so I contacted her. I want an outcall, and she quoted me 300 Euro. In looking at here reviews on the local Board, I see more rates in the 60-70 range for 1/2 hour and 130-150 for an hour, Is an outcall worth that much more?? Any information would be helpful.
Thanks,
Mongerer88
03-20-25, 23:37
Over the years, Lara Schultz has been on my list to see in Lisbon, so I contacted her. I want an outcall, and she quoted me 300 Euro. In looking at here reviews on the local Board, I see more rates in the 60-70 range for 1/2 hour and 130-150 for an hour, Is an outcall worth that much more?? Any information would be helpful.
Thanks,Not sure outcall is really her "game". Most all of her reviews are thirty minute incalls, she advertises on a site directed to locals, and she has a set incall place, rather than using several incall places shared by several ladies. She probably doesn't know what to do with an outcall request. Her business model is going to her rented place and seeing several guys during her "shift". In fairness, most ladies say that a one hour outcall is often a 2 to 3 hour commitment when their travel time is considered since they need to get back in time for their next incall appointment.
I mention her in threads because a lot of guys seem to want a quality massage, but also want to be sure that BBBJTCIM and CFS is available. Her reviews say she is excellent at massages and BBBJTCIM, and there is no certainty of that at the massage parlors. Her reviewers don't seem all that interested in a full hour that includes multiple cums.
I suspect you would be more pleased with any number of other ladies who are more accustomed to outcall. They would likely be less expensive as well.
Clara Beatriz, a blonde Portuguese girl in her mid 20's who is new to the scene this year has two positive reviews on the local Portuguese forum. Link to her ApartadoXprofile: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-clara-beatriz-8230.
Over the years, Lara Schultz has been on my list to see in Lisbon, so I contacted her. I want an outcall, and she quoted me 300 Euro. In looking at here reviews on the local Board, I see more rates in the 60-70 range for 1/2 hour and 130-150 for an hour, Is an outcall worth that much more?? Any information would be helpful.
Thanks,I recently saw her (look up my review on her), he charges 70 for 30 minutes and 130 for 60 mins.
She is definitely not worth 300 euros for an outcall. You can find plenty of great ladies for far less. Just read through couple of pages in this forum. Maybe it's her way of saying no to an outcall. Good luck.
Not sure outcall is really her "game". Most all of her reviews are thirty minute incalls, she advertises on a site directed to locals, and she has a set incall place, rather than using several incall places shared by several ladies. She probably doesn't know what to do with an outcall request. Her business model is going to her rented place and seeing several guys during her "shift". In fairness, most ladies say that a one hour outcall is often a 2 to 3 hour commitment when their travel time is considered since they need to get back in time for their next incall appointment.
I mention her in threads because a lot of guys seem to want a quality massage, but also want to be sure that BBBJTCIM and CFS is available. Her reviews say she is excellent at massages and BBBJTCIM, and there is no certainty of that at the massage parlors. Her reviewers don't seem all that interested in a full hour that includes multiple cums.
I suspect you would be more pleased with any number of other ladies who are more accustomed to outcall. They would likely be less expensive as well.As always, I appreciate your solid input! Thanks,
Saw Adriana for 2 hours this week, just a few days into her first stint with EP. Lovely girl, very petite and beautiful with delicate features. No negatives, we had a vigorous and fun time. Despite her youthful looks, It's obvious that she's a mother and she has quite a few more tattoos than the photos reveal. Didn't bother me at all.
Like a lot of newer EP girls, she's advertised as speaking English but doesn't really (always best to ask the operator if this matters to you). We got by with Google Translate.
Overall, a definite positive. She really got into the sex and has a raunchy side which contrasts well with her rather innocent appearance.
Had a brief trip to Lisbon so booked Viviane in advance unfortunately she cancelled due to being unwell so sent a flurry of messages to see who I could book that afternoon, Alina was free so I opted for her. Great comms, speaks good English she even joked about the difference with US & UK accents. She is stunning, playful, gave excellent GFE, highly recommend. Would definitely repeat, perhaps not quite as good as Vivian but close enough.
Saw Adriana for 2 hours this week, just a few days into her first stint with EP. Lovely girl, very petite and beautiful with delicate features. No negatives, we had a vigorous and fun time. Despite her youthful looks, It's obvious that she's a mother and she has quite a few more tattoos than the photos reveal. Didn't bother me at all.
Like a lot of newer EP girls, she's advertised as speaking English but doesn't really (always best to ask the operator if this matters to you). We got by with Google Translate.
Overall, a definite positive. She really got into the sex and has a raunchy side which contrasts well with her rather innocent appearance.What makes you think she is a mother?
Had the pleasure of meeting Flįvia for a few hours this week and was thoroughly impressed.
Sometimes, you just want an articulate, classy lady to show up and give you a passionate vanilla GFE without any pretence. Flįvia delivered that expertly. I'll spare the details but I enjoyed every second of the BJ and she was very responsive to everything I did.
Her appearance is almost exactly as per the photos on EP, spare the usual editing they do to make everyone appear more doll like.
A genuine and interesting sweetheart of a lady who knows how to please a man and hold a conversation.
Recommended.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/flavia-boanova/
CanuckGuy85
04-03-25, 23:14
Saw Adriana for 2 hours this week, just a few days into her first stint with EP. Lovely girl, very petite and beautiful with delicate features. No negatives, we had a vigorous and fun time. Despite her youthful looks, It's obvious that she's a mother and she has quite a few more tattoos than the photos reveal. Didn't bother me at all.
Like a lot of newer EP girls, she's advertised as speaking English but doesn't really (always best to ask the operator if this matters to you). We got by with Google Translate.
Overall, a definite positive. She really got into the sex and has a raunchy side which contrasts well with her rather innocent appearance.Thanks for the review, how old would you say she is roughly?
A bit late, but finally I decided to visit Juliana.
So let's be honest, she's far from being fit, but can't say she's fat. She's really tall indeed but I'm not short so all good with me.
That said, she really delivers. ! Everything on the menu (even though I didn't go for A+). Wonderful BJ, she knows what men like.
All in all an excellent hour even though I wanted to see a more fit girl, but none was available on the short notice I had.
Just got done seeing Alice for 2 hours. At this point, I'm sure the agency knows who I am from these reviews but it hardly matters. I prefer to bang these out quickly before I forget.
I've been enjoying more basic GFE experiences recently and Alice fit the bill nicely. Definitely a girl next door type, quite attractive and very friendly with excellent English. Her body is petite and busty with a few tattoos. I thought she had a slight resemblance to 80's actress Mia Sara. She does wear braces which might be a negative for some. Didn't bother me at all.
Sparing the details, the sex was good. I wasn't looking for a sweaty marathon session and Alice was very willing, albeit slightly nervous. I'd say that comes from being new and introverted rather than reluctant.
Overall, a positive experience. Recommended if you want the younger, student type that is pretty hard to find in most cities these days.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/alice-costa/
CanuckGuy85
04-05-25, 22:17
Just got done seeing Alice for 2 hours. At this point, I'm sure the agency knows who I am from these reviews but it hardly matters. I prefer to bang these out quickly before I forget.
I've been enjoying more basic GFE experiences recently and Alice fit the bill nicely. Definitely a girl next door type, quite attractive and very friendly with excellent English. Her body is petite and busty with a few tattoos. I thought she had a slight resemblance to 80's actress Mia Sara. She does wear braces which might be a negative for some. Didn't bother me at all.
Sparing the details, the sex was good. I wasn't looking for a sweaty marathon session and Alice was very willing, albeit slightly nervous. I'd say that comes from being new and introverted rather than reluctant.
Overall, a positive experience. Recommended if you want the younger, student type that is pretty hard to find in most cities these days.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/alice-costa/Thanks again for your reviews. I might be in Lisbon again this summer so I'm on the lookout for Portuguese women that are all natural in their early to mid 20's to add to the regulars that I've already seen multiple times so your reviews really come in handy.
NRandom940
04-05-25, 23:17
Just got done seeing Alice for 2 hours. At this point, I'm sure the agency knows who I am from these reviews but it hardly matters. I prefer to bang these out quickly before I forget.
I've been enjoying more basic GFE experiences recently and Alice fit the bill nicely. Definitely a girl next door type, quite attractive and very friendly with excellent English. Her body is petite and busty with a few tattoos. I thought she had a slight resemblance to 80's actress Mia Sara. She does wear braces which might be a negative for some. Didn't bother me at all.
Sparing the details, the sex was good. I wasn't looking for a sweaty marathon session and Alice was very willing, albeit slightly nervous. I'd say that comes from being new and introverted rather than reluctant.
Overall, a positive experience. Recommended if you want the younger, student type that is pretty hard to find in most cities these days.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/alice-costa/Were you doing mostly outcalls? I've found at least of the profiles do outcall only, which is unfortunately not possible at my hotel.
I'm coming back to visit Lisbon after a long time. I'm noticing many of the favourites are longer working perhaps. This is a long shot because I can't even remember her name. She was a tall black Brazilian student, drove her own car to appointments. Good English, definitely a student as she came to me straight after a lecture once. She was on Privada when it was 150 per hour. Just hoping she moved sites and is still around. Not a lot to go on I know, any help to see if she is still around that would be great. Tall slender girl.
Mongerer88
04-07-25, 02:40
I'm coming back to visit Lisbon after a long time. I'm noticing many of the favourites are longer working perhaps. This is a long shot because I can't even remember her name. She was a tall black Brazilian student, drove her own car to appointments. Good English, definitely a student as she came to me straight after a lecture once. She was on Privada when it was 150 per hour. Just hoping she moved sites and is still around. Not a lot to go on I know, any help to see if she is still around that would be great. Tall slender girl.If the lady you saw was Deborah Dias, she has simply changed her name to Raquel Costa.
Raquel Costa just got her second 8 out of 10 review on the local board.
She has gotten favorable reviews here on ISG, and if I remember correctly, a mention or two of her service being average.
It is inevitable that some of us will like certain escorts better than others. So very few ladies get nothing but great reviews.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/
If the lady you saw was Deborah Dias, she has simply changed her name to Raquel Costa.
Raquel Costa just got her second 8 out of 10 review on the local board.
She has gotten favorable reviews here on ISG, and if I remember correctly, a mention or two of her service being average.
It is inevitable that some of us will like certain escorts better than others. So very few ladies get nothing but great reviews.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/It wasn't her, this lady was lighter skinned Brazilian lady, a bit like Joanna Montenegro but not her.
If I were a betting man, I'd have a punt that the lady you saw was Ana Lucia who now goes by the name Maria Helena. If you'd given some indication of when you saw the lady, I could have had an even better guess.
Ana was a student and looked like one, even though she was almost 30 when I saw her myself a couple of years ago. She left the scene for a while but returned a few months ago as Maria Helena (not on EP). Very much tall and slender as you describe.
One doubt I certainly have is about the english, as I remember it being average rather than the good you mention.
Mongerer88 suggests Deborah Dias but she is not Brazilian and I wouldn't naturally refer to her as being slender, due to her slightly muscular physique.
I'm coming back to visit Lisbon after a long time. I'm noticing many of the favourites are longer working perhaps. This is a long shot because I can't even remember her name. She was a tall black Brazilian student, drove her own car to appointments. Good English, definitely a student as she came to me straight after a lecture once. She was on Privada when it was 150 per hour. Just hoping she moved sites and is still around. Not a lot to go on I know, any help to see if she is still around that would be great. Tall slender girl.
Thanks for the reviews. Flavia has been on my list to see as well, good to get a positive review about her.
Had the pleasure of meeting Flvia for a few hours this week and was thoroughly impressed.
Sometimes, you just want an articulate, classy lady to show up and give you a passionate vanilla GFE without any pretence. Flvia delivered that expertly. I'll spare the details but I enjoyed every second of the BJ and she was very responsive to everything I did.
Her appearance is almost exactly as per the photos on EP, spare the usual editing they do to make everyone appear more doll like.
A genuine and interesting sweetheart of a lady who knows how to please a man and hold a conversation.
Recommended.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/flavia-boanova/
If I were a betting man, I'd have a punt that the lady you saw was Ana Lucia who now goes by the name Maria Helena. If you'd given some indication of when you saw the lady, I could have had an even better guess.
Ana was a student and looked like one, even though she was almost 30 when I saw her myself a couple of years ago. She left the scene for a while but returned a few months ago as Maria Helena (not on EP). Very much tall and slender as you describe.
One doubt I certainly have is about the english, as I remember it being average rather than the good you mention.
Mongerer88 suggests Deborah Dias but she is not Brazilian and I wouldn't naturally refer to her as being slender, due to her slightly muscular physique.Yes! That name rings a bell! What site can I find Maria Helena on?
If I were a betting man, I'd have a punt that the lady you saw was Ana Lucia who now goes by the name Maria Helena. If you'd given some indication of when you saw the lady, I could have had an even better guess.
Ana was a student and looked like one, even though she was almost 30 when I saw her myself a couple of years ago. She left the scene for a while but returned a few months ago as Maria Helena (not on EP). Very much tall and slender as you describe.
One doubt I certainly have is about the english, as I remember it being average rather than the good you mention.
Mongerer88 suggests Deborah Dias but she is not Brazilian and I wouldn't naturally refer to her as being slender, due to her slightly muscular physique.I googled "Ana Lucia Lisbon Escort" and its her as adverts from various still bring up her old picture. I think she might be wearing a wig as Maria.
Mongerer88
04-07-25, 17:29
Yes! That name rings a bell! What site can I find Maria Helena on?Great memory on Harry1217's part.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-maria-helena-6069
Great memory on Harry1217's part.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-maria-helena-6069Thanks guys! Made contact with her, she remembers me! She has sold her Renault Clio, not sure what she is driving now, if business has been good maybe a Mercedes!
You're welcome. Do let us know how you get on with her, if you manage to see her.
Thanks guys! Made contact with her, she remembers me! She has sold her Renault Clio, not sure what she is driving now, if business has been good maybe a Mercedes!
You're welcome. Do let us know how you get on with her, if you manage to see her.Will do, I arrive in Lisbon on 24th April.
How is that Hippo club next to the car show room nowadays? Picked up a few gems from there in the past.
Also a place called Bar Siesta or Kikas? A place near Santarem.
You're welcome. Do let us know how you get on with her, if you manage to see her.I know this is a Lisbon thread, but if any of you have thought about going to Pattaya, Thailand then do reach out. I've been there 9 times and is my go to place for mongering.
I visited Artemis Lisbon Spa (https://artemis-spa.pt/en/prices/) earlier this week, and had the pleasure of experiencing Marcia. I visited shortly after they opened for the day and only she and Safira were available on site at the time. I went with her and chose the one hour clitia massage. I had a quick shower and then received a very erotic oil massage from Marcia that included us switching places about half way through, me manually stimulating her, and thus the both of us finishing each other off together. I met the manager on the way out who suggested that I reach out via WhatsApp before visiting again and the she would have available any of the girls that I wanted to choose. Overall, I was happy with the visit and I would recommend Artemis if you are looking for an erotic massage with a nice looking Brazilian in this area.
JPTraveller
04-12-25, 03:44
A bit late, but finally I decided to visit Juliana.
So let's be honest, she's far from being fit, but can't say she's fat. She's really tall indeed but I'm not short so all good with me.
That said, she really delivers. ! Everything on the menu (even though I didn't go for A+). Wonderful BJ, she knows what men like.
All in all an excellent hour even though I wanted to see a more fit girl, but none was available on the short notice I had.I am sorry that my description did not match your expectations. Her body is hard to describe with words like 'fit', 'fat' but she does hit all my buttons for sure. She's fit in the sense that I know she does crossfit and goes to the gym but definitely not skinny.
But glad to hear that she delivered and that it was an excellent hour! Hope to hear from others what they think.
Stopping in lisbon for 2 days, 1 night off the cruise ship. Does anyone recommend anything?
Never been to Portugal but I will be making a 2 day 1 night stop by cruise. Any recommendations?
Just an update after a recent visit to Lisbon.
Went for a massage in Genuine Tantric Saldahna. Booked 1 hour b2 b with 1 of the ladies there. Half way through she gave the option to massage herself which I obliged. There were no limits with what she wanted to do. Touching all over, kissing (no FK), etc. Knock on the door as we ran out of time so she finished me off pretty quickly. Left very happy!
It was so good that I booked with her again for the next day and she seemed very happy to see me. Booked for 1. 5 hours this time so that I didn't have the dreaded knock mid way through again. This time I brought by own equipment. Massage started with b2 b, turn over and it was my turn to massage her again. Massage turned into touching all over, kissing (this time she allowed FK). I suggested that we go all the way and she agreed on the condition that we were extremely quiet as it was "frowned upon" by the managers Multiple positions later we both finished very happy. Continued to the shower again for more FK and a nice shared shower.
Happy to share more details if needed but not on the open forum. Not a regular poster here so if PMs are allowed then feel free to PM me for more info.Reviews a lady called Lorena quite a while back that allowed for Full Service in the salon after a repeat visit. Since then, I've been here about 10-15 times but no luck until my last visit! I booked to see Iris for the first time! Booked a 1 hour meeting witha beautiful young lady for the Vice Versa massage. Brought the goods as I always do in case there is a chance for extra and this time there was. FS on the massage bed and then standing up against the wall too. Won't share the ladies name here but PM if you'd like to visit her.
Will.
Reviews a lady called Lorena quite a while back that allowed for Full Service in the salon after a repeat visit. Since then, I've been here about 10-15 times but no luck until my last visit! I booked to see Iris for the first time! Booked a 1 hour meeting witha beautiful young lady for the Vice Versa massage. Brought the goods as I always do in case there is a chance for extra and this time there was. FS on the massage bed and then standing up against the wall too. Won't share the ladies name here but PM if you'd like to visit her.
Will.Scratch that. Just whatsapped the salon to see if she was working tomorrow and been told she no longer works here now 🤦8205;9794;65039; I'm guessing they found out about her extras and weren't happy.
There aren't many reports for the Hippo club but it is apparently still going strong.
Prices appear to have increased over the last year to 200 as a base price for the girl, together with drinks costs of 50 for you and the girl, and the motel / hotel cost. I'm guessing when you were last there it would have been around 120 as a base price, so quite an increase!
Non-recent reports indicated that the vast majority of girls are Brazilian, but that's not much different to the online escorts.
A very recent report suggests that the place had few very customers on a Saturday night, with plenty of girls to choose from!
There doesn't appear to be much information on Bar Siesta.
Have a great return trip to Lisbon!
Will do, I arrive in Lisbon on 24th April.
How is that Hippo club next to the car show room nowadays? Picked up a few gems from there in the past.
Also a place called Bar Siesta or Kikas? A place near Santarem.
I'm very, very surprised reading your experience of previously getting FS at Genuine Tantric, and with Lorena who I saw myself in 2022. As you went in 2023, it would have been the same Lorena. She doesn't appear to work there now (there's another Lorena on their books).
I clearly remember having quite an interesting conversation with Lorena whereby she specifically mentioned that the place was massage only (NO FS) and she even asked me about my experience at other places. But she was clear that GT was massage only. That's also what has been reported both here and on other forum's.
Perhaps she really took a liking to you and her hormones lost control!
I do admire your persistence in having returned to GT so many times in the last couple of years. I had a terrible experience there 18 months ago, and told myself I would never return. It's not a place I would recommend. I wasn't entirely comfortable anyway paying the same price as for an FS escort.
Reviews a lady called Lorena quite a while back that allowed for Full Service in the salon after a repeat visit. Since then, I've been here about 10-15 times but no luck until my last visit! I booked to see Iris for the first time! Booked a 1 hour meeting witha beautiful young lady for the Vice Versa massage. Brought the goods as I always do in case there is a chance for extra and this time there was. FS on the massage bed and then standing up against the wall too. Won't share the ladies name here but PM if you'd like to visit her.
Will.
There aren't many reports for the Hippo club but it is apparently still going strong.
Prices appear to have increased over the last year to 200 as a base price for the girl, together with drinks costs of 50 for you and the girl, and the motel / hotel cost. I'm guessing when you were last there it would have been around 120 as a base price, so quite an increase!
Non-recent reports indicated that the vast majority of girls are Brazilian, but that's not much different to the online escorts.
A very recent report suggests that the place had few very customers on a Saturday night, with plenty of girls to choose from!..Thanks Harry, will probably give Hippo a miss this time! Yes, in the time you would get a lady for 150 and the lady drinks were about 25 making sure they didn't choose champagne.
Any new places emerging that are not top dollar pricing?
JAdventure12
04-15-25, 02:27
Hey All, First time posting, but have used the forum for other countries before. I'm traveling to Lisbon in mid-May for four days and have done my homework on the ladies I'd like to see by reading 60 or pages back. I do have a couple of clarifying questions.
If available, I have Ines Vaz, Vivane Miller, Rebeca Diniz, Estela Nunes, Flora Neves, Eva Mello among others at the top of my list. I was wondering how far in advance should I reach out to some of the ladies for the best luck in seeing them? I've seen some varying information throughout the forum.
Also, I was planning on arranging a threesome, but I have never done so before. I've gotten an idea of which ladies offer doing so throughout the forum, but uncertain the best way to arrange it. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Pecadozinho
04-15-25, 09:47
Acompanhantes Rosa is a relatively recent site that features GPS with unreal photos.
https://acompanhantesrosa.com/classificados-acompanhantes-de-luxo/lisboa
How reliable is it?
JPTraveller
04-15-25, 10:19
Hey All, First time posting, but have used the forum for other countries before. I'm traveling to Lisbon in mid-May for four days and have done my homework on the ladies I'd like to see by reading 60 or pages back. I do have a couple of clarifying questions.
If available, I have Ines Vaz, Vivane Miller, Rebeca Diniz, Estela Nunes, Flora Neves, Eva Mello among others at the top of my list. I was wondering how far in advance should I reach out to some of the ladies for the best luck in seeing them? I've seen some varying information throughout the forum.
Also, I was planning on arranging a threesome, but I have never done so before. I've gotten an idea of which ladies offer doing so throughout the forum, but uncertain the best way to arrange it. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!Usually I just ping them a few days before the trip (max one week). For the threesome, it's really hard if you do not know the girls before and the girls don't know each other. In your case, I would simply ask Rebecca to bring Juliana (or vice versa) and you'll have the best threesome anyone can have. They have the best chemistry and are both incredible.
I'm very, very surprised reading your experience of previously getting FS at Genuine Tantric, and with Lorena who I saw myself in 2022. As you went in 2023, it would have been the same Lorena. She doesn't appear to work there now (there's another Lorena on their books).
I clearly remember having quite an interesting conversation with Lorena whereby she specifically mentioned that the place was massage only (NO FS) and she even asked me about my experience at other places. But she was clear that GT was massage only. That's also what has been reported both here and on other forum's.
Perhaps she really took a liking to you and her hormones lost control!
I do admire your persistence in having returned to GT so many times in the last couple of years. I had a terrible experience there 18 months ago, and told myself I would never return. It's not a place I would recommend. I wasn't entirely comfortable anyway paying the same price as for an FS escort.Yeah with Lorena it took a repeat visit! She got very turned on during the massage and when she let me give her the massage it was even more so! She was definitely in the mood for it but she stressed that the place did not allow it. So much so, that I needed to pack up the used goods I brought and bring then with me after we did the deed 🤣.
She really was amazing too! Really engaging and full on GFE too. Beautiful woman who was way more attractive than the pictures made out. She actually ended up in the Faro branch for a while too.
Do you know if she was fully stopped working now?
Be curious to see why your last experiemce there was so bad? I've had nothing but good experiences here.
If be untere.
JPTraveller
04-16-25, 12:55
Usually I just ping them a few days before the trip (max one week). For the threesome, it's really hard if you do not know the girls before and the girls don't know each other. In your case, I would simply ask Rebecca to bring Juliana (or vice versa) and you'll have the best threesome anyone can have. They have the best chemistry and are both incredible.The biggest problems with threesome where the girls don't know each other are (1) logistics (one will show up late for sure) and (2) chemistry (sometimes they don't like each other). Any bit of awkwardness or stress will make hard for you to perform with two girls. Definitely not the case with Rebecca and Juliana as they will arrive at the same time and on time + you can just watch them go at it and then go for it.
Hey All, First time posting, but have used the forum for other countries before. I'm traveling to Lisbon in mid-May for four days and have done my homework on the ladies I'd like to see by reading 60 or pages back. I do have a couple of clarifying questions.
If available, I have Ines Vaz, Vivane Miller, Rebeca Diniz, Estela Nunes, Flora Neves, Eva Mello among others at the top of my list. I was wondering how far in advance should I reach out to some of the ladies for the best luck in seeing them? I've seen some varying information throughout the forum.
Also, I was planning on arranging a threesome, but I have never done so before. I've gotten an idea of which ladies offer doing so throughout the forum, but uncertain the best way to arrange it. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!Book early with Rebecca Diniz. She does a good job with managing her bookings and knowing her availability. I contacted her two weeks in advance and everything went well. I sent her a reminder a day before to reconfirm. With all the other EP girls on your list, few days ahead is what they will tell you. Viviane told me to contact her 2- 3 days before the planned meet.
I contacted Flora Never two weeks before but she never responded. At that time she was out of country (based on her location on Euro escort), even though I saw that she was in Lisbon during my visit. But, no harm in reaching out to all of them to start the conversation.
Regarding threesome, I have never tried it but I believe in EP itself the girls themselves advertise the pairs. With someone like Rebecca, you can ask her to see who she will be comfortable with.
Good luck with your visit. Recently Lisbon has gotten great options to choose so I am pretty sure you will have a great time.
Hola amigos, Hello, gentlemen.
I'm Pakore from Spain, visiting for the 3rd time in May again. Left some reviews: Patricia Navarro (my queen 10/10) and Isabela Venturi (excellent duo 10), Eller Rocha (8) and a bad one Evelin Clifford / Melissa.
Again will be useful a top / list of trustable best score ladies (that for idiots was brilliant. Ha)*.
And any updated recommendations?
Must:
Incall.
Good English (or Spanish) and likes to talk.
GFE. Kissing.
BBBJ.
Enthusiast.
2nd rounds.
Prefer less than 200/ h (I see in Escortguru some regular same ladies but 150 eu instead, better to say I saw them there I guess).
Desirable:
Big nips.
Soft skin.
Fit, abs etc.
I see some names on fire: Viviane Miler and Alina (still stars? Helena Cardoso.
Still active?: Mel Pires (stunning pics in ApX on 40 ! And she told me Camila Pereira. Alexandra and Sara, Lara Schutz (still 130? Isis Schutz, Becky the,* Joana Montenegro.
Obrigado!
CanuckGuy85
04-16-25, 22:34
Hey All, First time posting, but have used the forum for other countries before. I'm traveling to Lisbon in mid-May for four days and have done my homework on the ladies I'd like to see by reading 60 or pages back. I do have a couple of clarifying questions.
If available, I have Ines Vaz, Vivane Miller, Rebeca Diniz, Estela Nunes, Flora Neves, Eva Mello among others at the top of my list. I was wondering how far in advance should I reach out to some of the ladies for the best luck in seeing them? I've seen some varying information throughout the forum.
Also, I was planning on arranging a threesome, but I have never done so before. I've gotten an idea of which ladies offer doing so throughout the forum, but uncertain the best way to arrange it. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!Great choices of ladies to see that you have picked out. I have seen all the ladies at the top of your list with the exception of Eva Mello who I reached out to but was not available during my last trip to Lisbon this past February and they are all great providers.
I don't think there are any new places emerging but there are several smaller clubs that have been operating for many years. For example, 'Teachers pub' appears to be cheaper than Hippo. However, the quality of the girls in terms of looks may not be as good as places like Hippo.
Personally I prefer online escorts but I understand the appeal of clubs and the buzz it can give you. If you can take girls from Hippo to your own hotel rather than one they recommend, the overall cost isn't that bad. If clubs really are your thing, and you can afford it, I would still give Hippo a go.
Thanks Harry, will probably give Hippo a miss this time! Yes, in the time you would get a lady for 150 and the lady drinks were about 25 making sure they didn't choose champagne.
Any new places emerging that are not top dollar pricing?
I had a girl who basically told me customers were not allowed to make any requests or direct massages as they wished. She had a bit of an attitude and stayed out of reach during the whole massage so I couldn't touch at all, and the whole experience left me feeling a bit underwhelmed and frustrated. I think it also lasted well under the 1 hour I paid for. Completely the opposite of your encounter which resulted in FS! The lady left GT soon after, possibly due to complaints!
I've read plenty of other reports on GT, and I just don't think its the place for me as what they deliver for the price charged doesn't appeal to me. At the time I last visited, I think the price was the same as for outcall escorts, which made no sense to me!
Yeah with Lorena it took a repeat visit! She got very turned on during the massage and when she let me give her the massage it was even more so! She was definitely in the mood for it but she stressed that the place did not allow it. So much so, that I needed to pack up the used goods I brought and bring then with me after we did the deed 🤣.
She really was amazing too! Really engaging and full on GFE too. Beautiful woman who was way more attractive than the pictures made out. She actually ended up in the Faro branch for a while too.
Do you know if she was fully stopped working now?
Be curious to see why your last experiemce there was so bad? I've had nothing but good experiences here.
If be untere.
Been doing some more research, some people saying there are on-site rooms at Photus and Diva. Anyone info on these places?
Hola amigos, Hello, gentlemen.
I'm Pakore from Spain, visiting for the 3rd time in May again. Left some reviews: Patricia Navarro (my queen 10/10) and Isabela Venturi (excellent duo 10), Eller Rocha (8) and a bad one Evelin Clifford / Melissa.
Again will be useful a top / list of trustable best score ladies (that for idiots was brilliant. Ha)*.
And any updated recommendations?
Must:
Incall.
Good English (or Spanish) and likes to talk.
GFE. Kissing.
BBBJ.
Enthusiast.
2nd rounds.
Prefer less than 200/ h (I see in Escortguru some regular same ladies but 150 eu instead, better to say I saw them there I guess).
Desirable:
Big nips.
Soft skin.
Fit, abs etc.
I see some names on fire: Viviane Miler and Alina (still stars? Helena Cardoso.
Still active?: Mel Pires (stunning pics in ApX on 40 ! And she told me Camila Pereira. Alexandra and Sara, Lara Schutz (still 130? Isis Schutz, Becky the,* Joana Montenegro.
Obrigado!Actually, I'd ask if anybody has had any luck recently with reaching out to Viviane?
Been trying to book her for more than 1 week now and no replies whatsoever.
Few updates I noticed:
1. Eva Mello no long working. I don't know if she is coming back or not.
2. A bunch of new Portuguese girls in the past month on ApartadoX, like Esperanēa Gomes, Francisca Santana, Claudia Silva, and Alice Costa (who been reviewed by one ISG user earlier this month).
3. Ruby Rodrigues changed her name to Lia Castro. No recent reviews, but her new pictures are the best ones of her IMO.
Actually, I'd ask if anybody has had any luck recently with reaching out to Viviane?
Been trying to book her for more than 1 week now and no replies whatsoever.Should have been more patient, she replied yesterday.
This would be the first time for me asking for an outcall for the outskirts of Lisbon, and Viviane is asking me 80 for transportation, to be paid in advance.
I've always had a rule of not paying for anything in advance but I've never been disappointed by EP so far, do you guys know if this is standard practice? Has anybody here done that before?
Not surpirsed by Eva Mello having stopped as she rarely worked and it was merely a question of when.
Yes Lia Castro is the old Ruby. She has airbrushed out her heavy and widespread tattoo's with the exception of a bit on the chest. Her nipple piercings are also airbrushed out on some pictures. Just to reiterate that she has had some poor reports recently and I wouldn't recommend her (saw her myself a few months ago and she didn't provide some advertised services).
The likes of Dalila Castro (previous Maria Conceicao) and Joana Montenegro have left the scene too recently.
Few updates I noticed:
1. Eva Mello no long working. I don't know if she is coming back or not.
2. A bunch of new Portuguese girls in the past month on ApartadoX, like Esperana Gomes, Francisca Santana, Claudia Silva, and Alice Costa (who been reviewed by one ISG user earlier this month).
3. Ruby Rodrigues changed her name to Lia Castro. No recent reviews, but her new pictures are the best ones of her IMO.
It's absolutely not standard to ask for money in advance. However, the fact you say outskirts of Lisbon is obviously the key factor here. They may well hit you with a travel charge if you are outisde of Lisbon, or on the outskirts as you say. I think 80 is quite a hefty charge to pay, but it depends excatly where you are.
One thing that will give you peace of mind, if you do decide to go ahead, is that EP is a reputable agency so you're very unlikely to get scammed. I'd send EP an email too just enquiring about this extra charge.
Personally, it's not a charge I would pay as I'd rather find a hotel for 1 night within Lisbon and entertain her there (good hotels for not much more than that if you book at the right time, and some lesser hotels at a similar price).
Should have been more patient, she replied yesterday.
This would be the first time for me asking for an outcall for the outskirts of Lisbon, and Viviane is asking me 80 for transportation, to be paid in advance.
I've always had a rule of not paying for anything in advance but I've never been disappointed by EP so far, do you guys know if this is standard practice? Has anybody here done that before?
I don't know and I'm not even sure when she left. However, I do know there were instances before when she came off the rota but reappeared at a later date.
If you want more certainty of getting FS with a tantric massage, try places like L'essence or Nuru spa where the chances are pretty high. However, it could be that you prefer the thrill of getting FS from a place where it isn't allowed, which I can actually understand!
Yeah with Lorena it took a repeat visit!
Do you know if she was fully stopped working now?
If be untere.
It's absolutely not standard to ask for money in advance. However, the fact you say outskirts of Lisbon is obviously the key factor here. They may well hit you with a travel charge if you are outisde of Lisbon, or on the outskirts as you say. I think 80 is quite a hefty charge to pay, but it depends excatly where you are.
One thing that will give you peace of mind, if you do decide to go ahead, is that EP is a reputable agency so you're very unlikely to get scammed. I'd send EP an email too just enquiring about this extra charge.
Personally, it's not a charge I would pay as I'd rather find a hotel for 1 night within Lisbon and entertain her there (good hotels for not much more than that if you book at the right time, and some lesser hotels at a similar price).Two years ago I asked Joana Montenegro if there were rooms for hours, love hotels and she told me two names: Xroomz and Safira Guesthouse. Ask Viviane directy, . I wasn't finally. I think is a good option. I was once in Barcelona with an incredible porn actress and it was fully decorated with mirror on ceiling, lights, circle bed. It add fun to the experience. It costed me 1 h 35 eu. You don't have to book a whole night.
I think asking in advance for a extra travel is quite common. I have an escort friend and they risk to spend extra money and can be asshole jokes, not being in place, cancelling without telling. One thing is to lose time and other also extra money. I guess they travel by taxi in those cases. I understand, if Viviane is so reputated I will trust her.
So.
IS VIVIANE ONLY OUTCALL?
Not surpirsed by Eva Mello having stopped as she rarely worked and it was merely a question of when.
Yes Lia Castro is the old Ruby. She has airbrushed out her heavy and widespread tattoo's with the exception of a bit on the chest. Her nipple piercings are also airbrushed out on some pictures. Just to reiterate that she has had some poor reports recently and I wouldn't recommend her (saw her myself a few months ago and she didn't provide some advertised services).
The likes of Dalila Castro (previous Maria Conceicao) and Joana Montenegro have left the scene too recently.Ruby / Lia Castro (and number of other girls like Lisa Mendes) haven't been reviewed in months though. Ruby didn't provide some of the advertised services because she was dating someone and planning to quit IIRC, but she still around, so maybe she brook up and could provide all services again.
I don't know and I'm not even sure when she left. However, I do know there were instances before when she came off the rota but reappeared at a later date.
If you want more certainty of getting FS with a tantric massage, try places like L'essence or Nuru spa where the chances are pretty high. However, it could be that you prefer the thrill of getting FS from a place where it isn't allowed, which I can actually understand!Yup. 100% the thrill of not being allowed and not knowing it will happen. Same feeling of he in "legit" massage parlors.
It's five months since Lia (ex-Ruby) received poor reviews which in my opinion is relatively recent. The fact that she had a boyfriend or whatever is totally irrelevant. What is relevant is that she worked as an escort advertising certain services but didn't actually provide them, which is very poor practice.
Perhaps she is providing all services now, but I may as well have a gamble on a horse. Too many 'if's and but's' for my liking. I'd rather stick with the many well-reviewed ladies or take a punt on a lady without any reviews if I wanted to gamble.
Ruby / Lia Castro (and number of other girls like Lisa Mendes) haven't been reviewed in months though. Ruby didn't provide some of the advertised services because she was dating someone and planning to quit IIRC, but she still around, so maybe she brook up and could provide all services again.
It's definitely not common for EP ladies to ask for travel supplements. EP ladies travel to locations at their own travel cost for two reasons. Firstly, the outcall rate of 200 is an inclusive rate which already includes an element of travel charge. Secondly, the ladies don't travel that far for that rate. As I said, the fact that the chap mentions 'outskirts' of Lisbon suggests the travel distance may not be the usual short trek. The sensible thing would be to enquire with EP directly about this charge.
Viviane is outcall only but you do make a good suggestion about room hire which I hope the original poster sees. However, I suspect he wants to entertain ladies in his own hotel for convenience etc.
Two years ago I asked Joana Montenegro if there were rooms for hours, love hotels and she told me two names: Xroomz and Safira Guesthouse. Ask Viviane directy, . I wasn't finally. I think is a good option. I was once in Barcelona with an incredible porn actress and it was fully decorated with mirror on ceiling, lights, circle bed. It add fun to the experience. It costed me 1 h 35 eu. You don't have to book a whole night.
I think asking in advance for a extra travel is quite common. I have an escort friend and they risk to spend extra money and can be asshole jokes, not being in place, cancelling without telling. One thing is to lose time and other also extra money. I guess they travel by taxi in those cases. I understand, if Viviane is so reputated I will trust her.
So.
IS VIVIANE ONLY OUTCALL?
MulhresVIP has a list of short-term hotels (or motels in Portuguese) on their website, though the hotel called Xroomz that's in Lisbon, near the Avenida metro station has closed down.
I asked this question before, but I noticed that Lisbon doesn't have love motels within the city limits. Why is that? Lack of demand? Another thing I wondered about is why EP girls don't offer incall?
It's five months since Lia (ex-Ruby) received poor reviews which in my opinion is relatively recent. The fact that she had a boyfriend or whatever is totally irrelevant. What is relevant is that she worked as an escort advertising certain services but didn't actually provide them, which is very poor practice.
Perhaps she is providing all services now, but I may as well have a gamble on a horse. Too many 'if's and but's' for my liking. I'd rather stick with the many well-reviewed ladies or take a punt on a lady without any reviews if I wanted to gamble.Agreed. No point speculating on whether an escort might improve when she's "single" - it's never happened and never will. I see enough of these ladies often enough to know they are fully monetised in every aspect of life and they are never single. Spend a few hours with them and they start telling on themselves. In fact, the boyfriend thing is largely an excuse. They're giving those services to somebody but you're in too low of a category for them to waste it on you.
The boyfriend gets the anal, the sugar daddy gets it bareback. You don't want to know.
Take them as you find them and they're only as good as their last review. Hope isn't a strategy.
Saw the recent review on the local board and decided to see Gabriela. I wasn't disappointed.
First thing I noticed was her resemblance to the actress Elsa Pataky and she was very well dressed as if heading from the office to dinner, which I appreciated a lot. She's advertised as being Romanian but I wouldn't have guessed that if I didn't know. Overall, I think she's one of the best looking ladies I've seen from EP. More of a radiant and restrained beauty instead of the overdone hooker chic that some of the ladies prefer.
In the bedroom, without going into too many details, once the clothes were removed she showed off a very toned, petite figure and delivered a great GFE. Some women have just the right touch and attention that you're looking for, and can turn up the intensity when you press the right buttons.
Unfortunately, her advertised English speaking skills are quite basic, which is a negative, but we got through the 2 hours without much need for talking.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/gabriela-fontes/
Mongerer88
04-23-25, 00:54
I asked this question before, but I noticed that Lisbon doesn't have love motels within the city limits. Why is that? Lack of demand? Another thing I wondered about is why EP girls don't offer incall?It is speculation, but Portugal is very permissive regarding sex work nationwide. It doesn't try to push the activity into certain designated areas such as red light districts. Locals can go see an incall escort at a trick pad generally shared by a group of escorts. Those escorts share the cost of the apartment and there appears to be no prejudice with respect to them renting it, unlike many countries where women are treated quite poorly and sex workers are treated worse than women in general. So you are sort of going to a love motel when you see an incall escort in Lisbon. Except for the fact that the sex worker has incentive to keep the place nice and can build the cost into her price. There is not the need for love motels in Portugal like there is in South America and parts of Asia.
As for EP, they likely made a decision that operating an incall would violate the pimping and pandering laws regarding organized prostitution. In theory, they are simply a conglomerate of independent escorts who pay a portion of their earnings for advertising and scheduling services, and in some situations transportation. Note the different phone number for each lady. Having a large enough incall or incalls to serve all of their escorts and customers, with someone from the group being on the lease, would not look good from a standpoint of arguing it is not organized prostitution. The Lisbon independents with shared trick pads do not advertise together. And the ones who effectively work together to share the incalls are generally 2-5 ladies. That doesn't get viewed by law enforcement in the same manner as 25 or so ladies all on one website with prices and services listed.
CanuckGuy85
04-23-25, 01:48
I asked this question before, but I noticed that Lisbon doesn't have love motels within the city limits. Why is that? Lack of demand? Another thing I wondered about is why EP girls don't offer incall?EP is an outcall only escort agency and it seems that most of the ladies that are with EP are students or work other jobs and do escorting part-time.
CanuckGuy85
04-23-25, 01:48
Saw the recent review on the local board and decided to see Gabriela. I wasn't disappointed.
First thing I noticed was her resemblance to the actress Elsa Pataky and she was very well dressed as if heading from the office to dinner, which I appreciated a lot. She's advertised as being Romanian but I wouldn't have guessed that if I didn't know. Overall, I think she's one of the best looking ladies I've seen from EP. More of a radiant and restrained beauty instead of the overdone hooker chic that some of the ladies prefer.
In the bedroom, without going into too many details, once the clothes were removed she showed off a very toned, petite figure and delivered a great GFE. Some women have just the right touch and attention that you're looking for, and can turn up the intensity when you press the right buttons.
Unfortunately, her advertised English speaking skills are quite basic, which is a negative, but we got through the 2 hours without much need for talking.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/gabriela-fontes/Thanks again for your EP reviews.
Mongerer88
04-23-25, 03:14
Thanks again for your EP reviews.Yes, the information PER23 is providing to everyone is fantastic.
Just seen andįDIA Amaral, nothing to write home about. Seasoned working girl I think, nice enough personality wise. Good BJ, knows what she is doing. Follows a routine, said she was a pole dancer so wanted to see her dance for me. Allows to touch her pussy but no fingers inside, was getting into the blow job while squeezing her tits, told me to stop wasn't that hard. Condom goes on and she has this way of not allowing you to go deep in mish, uses her thighs to push you out. The little fella wasn't having any of it so returned to BJ, it was good and she sensed I was going to explode so turned into HJ and came in her hand. Bit disappointing, some of it was me as feeling quite tired. She has a killer figure, dressed nicely, puts in a lot of effort but too mechanical like a set routine. Turned me on seeing her fully clothed with those tight jeans and killer body as she was leaving!
Not great start but had to choose from what was available post midnight - 200 smackers!
Been a month back from Pattaya, it really is an adults disney land. Nothing like it in the world!
Onwards and upwards, hopefully try a well reviewed Lisbon lady in the next few days and my little fella will hopefully rise to occasion better than today.
Thank you very much for your review, and I'm sorry your trip has got off to a lacklustre start. It's not great when they use tactics to restrict access.
There isn't much information on Nadia so you took a bit of a gamble. There was one mention of her here and one review on the local board. Both of those chaps liked her, but there were suggestions the local board review might be an Escort Privada inside job promoting Nadia.
Hopefully the rest of your meets are good. Do keep us updated if you can.
Just seen andDIA Amaral, nothing to write home about. Seasoned working girl I think, nice enough personality wise. Good BJ, knows what she is doing. Follows a routine, said she was a pole dancer so wanted to see her dance for me. Allows to touch her pussy but no fingers inside, was getting into the blow job while squeezing her tits, told me to stop wasn't that hard. Condom goes on and she has this way of not allowing you to go deep in mish, uses her thighs to push you out. The little fella wasn't having any of it so returned to BJ, it was good and she sensed I was going to explode so turned into HJ and came in her hand. Bit disappointing, some of it was me as feeling quite tired. She has a killer figure, dressed nicely, puts in a lot of effort but too mechanical like a set routine. Turned me on seeing her fully clothed with those tight jeans and killer body as she was leaving!
Not great start but had to choose from what was available post midnight - 200 smackers!
Been a month back from Pattaya, it really is an adults disney land. Nothing like it in the world!
Onwards and upwards, hopefully try a well reviewed Lisbon lady in the next few days and my little fella will hopefully rise to occasion better than today.
I did ask some days ago, about the best rated girls, I will arrive this week, to expand options.
Please, please some more names?
MUST:
Good English.
Enthusiast, friendly.
GFE-BBBJ.
2nd rounds.
DESIRABLE:
Incall better than outcall.
Less than 200.
"taller" like 1. 70.
This kind of girls, I'm trying to contact: Flora (asks 250), Viviane, Alina, Joana M (inactive?) -this "tall" I mean -, Alexandra and Sara (she replies not available), Rebecca the, Lara Shultz, Rita Silva.
Important who are active and replying these days, just a few days.
Gracias.
I did ask some days ago, about the best rated girls, I will arrive this week, to expand options.
Please, please some more names?
MUST:
Good English.
Enthusiast, friendly.
GFE-BBBJ.
2nd rounds..https://portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa
https://www.apartadox.com/classificados-acompanhantes-Lisboa-Portugal
Just chose which ones you like more and inquire them, there's a lot of options that can fit your needs.
For me the best ones around are a bit under 1.70 cm.
Thank you very much for your review, and I'm sorry your trip has got off to a lacklustre start. It's not great when they use tactics to restrict access.
There isn't much information on Nadia so you took a bit of a gamble. There was one mention of her here and one review on the local board. Both of those chaps liked her, but there were suggestions the local board review might be an Escort Privada inside job promoting Nadia.
Hopefully the rest of your meets are good. Do keep us updated if you can.Not the first time it happened in the local forum. I don't get why sometimes some forumers in the GT-PT forum think someone who posts a positive review of a EP girl is a shill.
Mongerer88
04-27-25, 20:57
I did ask some days ago, about the best rated girls, I will arrive this week, to expand options.
Please, please some more names?
MUST:
Good English.
Enthusiast, friendly.
GFE-BBBJ.
2nd rounds.
DESIRABLE:
Incall better than outcall.
Less than 200.
"taller" like 1. 70.
This kind of girls, I'm trying to contact: Flora (asks 250), Viviane, Alina, Joana M (inactive?) -this "tall" I mean -, Alexandra and Sara (she replies not available), Rebecca the, Lara Shultz, Rita Silva.
Important who are active and replying these days, just a few days.
Gracias.Here are some of the highly recommended independents with incall (EP is outcall only). You can see in the ad how tall they are. I am not going to exclude a lady from the list because she charges more than 200 euros. You can decide on that yourself. Others might be willing to pay her rate. I will certainly miss some, so other posters can make additions.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-rebeca-diniz-6364
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isis-nogueira-4429
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-morgana-cruz-7168
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428
https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sophie-a-7071
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lana/581108/
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/ana-luz
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/rita-silva
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lina/642161/#.
NoAnaconda
04-27-25, 23:50
I did ask some days ago, about the best rated girls, I will arrive this week, to expand options.
Please, please some more names?
MUST:
Good English.
Enthusiast, friendly.
GFE-BBBJ.
2nd rounds.
DESIRABLE:
Incall better than outcall.
Less than 200.
"taller" like 1. 70.
This kind of girls, I'm trying to contact: Flora (asks 250), Viviane, Alina, Joana M (inactive?) -this "tall" I mean -, Alexandra and Sara (she replies not available), Rebecca the, Lara Shultz, Rita Silva.
Important who are active and replying these days, just a few days.
Gracias.Lara Vincent, 1,73 m, Cabo Verde: https://www.apartadox.com/de/high-class-escort-lara-vincent-7113.
I did ask some days ago, about the best rated girls, I will arrive this week, to expand options.
Please, please some more names?
MUST:
Good English.
Enthusiast, friendly.
GFE-BBBJ.
2nd rounds.
DESIRABLE:
Incall better than outcall.
Less than 200.
"taller" like 1. 70.
This kind of girls, I'm trying to contact: Flora (asks 250), Viviane, Alina, Joana M (inactive?) -this "tall" I mean -, Alexandra and Sara (she replies not available), Rebecca the, Lara Shultz, Rita Silva.
Important who are active and replying these days, just a few days.
Gracias.*REVIEWS*.
What I meant is some list of girls with good reviews. Only mentioning the names is enough, I will do the research for links. List like the epic ones at Mongerer88 used to do, even he did break cardinal rules. Thanks again for that. I assume the ones in 2024 are still valid, just asked for any 2025 new talents. Reviews are crucial for me, based in them experiences were great, based only in pics were bad;.
Anyway thanks at FlexMind.
At Pakore The best pick for you would be https://portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-juliana-cavalcanti.
She's one of the best escort in Lisbon, above 1. 70 cm, great english and full service.
Thank me later =).
Mongerer88
04-29-25, 03:34
At Pakore The best pick for you would be https://portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-juliana-cavalcanti.
She's one of the best escort in Lisbon, above 1. 70 cm, great english and full service.
Thank me later =).Thanks for finding her PortalPrivado ad. Her Apartadox ad is down.
She is definitely the premier tall girl.
And thanks to NoAnaconda for adding a new tall lady to the list, Lara Vincent.
Among those two, and English-fluent Rebeca Diniz, Pakore should be all set.
A great unknown is the English fluency of the moderately tall and very well-reviewed (on the local board) Isis Nogueira. It would be great to have more ISG feedback on her, given how well she is thought of on the local board.
Thank you very much for your review, and I'm sorry your trip has got off to a lacklustre start. It's not great when they use tactics to restrict access.
There isn't much information on Nadia so you took a bit of a gamble. There was one mention of her here and one review on the local board. Both of those chaps liked her, but there were suggestions the local board review might be an Escort Privada inside job promoting Nadia.
Hopefully the rest of your meets are good. Do keep us updated if you can.Thanks Harry, re-kindled contact from a past ex working girl from Hippo back in the day, she is getting on a bit, not on the game, has a normal job. She came to my hotel for some afternoon fun, dare I admit on here that I barebacked her! It just happened. 🤦8205;9794;65039;.
I did go to Hippo to check it out on Saturday night, was so dry, hardly any girls. Met a brazillian lady and an african lady from Cape Verde. Really nice ladies, took the brazillian lady back to the hotel and repeated on Sunday night as I had her number. Her name was Raquelle. Very passionate and really gets into it. 200 euros seems to average price everywhere.
I can report that lady drinks in hippo are 25 euros and 40 euros depending on what is ordered. Free entry unlike Black Tie at 35 euros at 4 am.
Here are some of the highly recommended independents with incall (EP is outcall only). You can see in the ad how tall they are. I am not going to exclude a lady from the list because she charges more than 200 euros. You can decide on that yourself. Others might be willing to pay her rate. I will certainly miss some, so other posters can make additions.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-rebeca-diniz-6364
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isis-nogueira-4429
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-morgana-cruz-7168
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428
https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sophie-a-7071.https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/isis/464288/
Thanks a lot everybody for the lists! I have enough options, tall and regular, and actually some of them have replied already, among them and I'm very curious about is.
Isis Schultz.
*(not the same as Isis Lisbon or Isis massagist I see). The figure and especially just those incredible nipples are driving me wild (should say that as a desirable condition when asking names!), has 8 5 stars reviews both in EuroEGirls andn MulheresVip, I guess trustable (Good English, spectacular body and job. But I would like to know about experiences here. Also for Ines Pires.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/isis-schultz
I will see Patricia (a sweetheart even texting) and as a second experience would choose between: Becky, Sara Valente, Ines Pires or Isis. If Joana and Viviane say something are the top options, but.
Huge electricity 24 h fail both here in Spain and Portugal, Agreed with Patricia that if it happens again in the middle of the passion, would be no stop, full power action, haha.
Another very sweet and hot girl that few people know with everything you required.
https://portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-ana-carolina
Have fun.
Mongerer88
04-29-25, 17:21
Ines Peres of Escort Privada does not get very good reviews.
You would be much better off with Viviane Miller or Sara Valente if choosing an Escort Privada lady (I have seen both of them and recommend them).
Don't get Ines Peres of EP mixed up with Mel Pires the independent, who gets excellent reviews, even though she is a bit older.
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mel-pires-5408
Now for the Isis girls.
I had listed Isis Nogueira. Excellent reviews on the local board. I have confirmed that she speaks a little bit of English. Not a lot. She isn't fluent like Rebeca Diniz or Sara Valente, and not likely as conversational in English as Viviane Miller.
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isis-nogueira-4429
Now Isis Shultz. She is likely the same Isis Shultz as a lady advertising on Apartadox last year who received an 8 out of 10 and a 4 out of 10 on local board reviews. No way of telling for sure. Strangely enough, the 8 out of 10 reviewer said he wouldn't repeat. It may be a different lady, but you are taking a chance. Maybe the reviews of her on Eurogirls and MulheresVIP are legitimate, and maybe it is a different lady than the one previously reviewed. Or maybe she changed advertising venues and started giving better sessions.
With so many ladies named Isis, I can't trace the reviews into a lady named Isis, Independent on Eurogirls. And the local board reviewers rarely see ladies from Eurogirls.
And from your list, you would definitely be pleased with Rebeca Diniz, as I have said before.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/isis/464288/
Thanks a lot everybody for the lists! I have enough options, tall and regular, and actually some of them have replied already, among them and I'm very curious about is.
Isis Schultz.
*(not the same as Isis Lisbon or Isis massagist I see). The figure and especially just those incredible nipples are driving me wild (should say that as a desirable condition when asking names!), has 8 5 stars reviews both in EuroEGirls andn MulheresVip, I guess trustable (Good English, spectacular body and job. But I would like to know about experiences here. Also for Ines Pires..
RobotoVoice
04-29-25, 18:16
Gentlemen, it's been a while!
I wanted to report that a few weeks ago, I indulged an excellent threesome with my regular, Patricia Navarro, and her new friend, Fernanda Bono.
Link for Patricia: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827.
Link for Fernanda: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-fernanda-bono-5676.
30 minutes: 140 Euros. Incall.
1 hour: 240 Euros. Incall.
I opted for a 30 minute session, which included French kissing, BBBJ, DIY, CIM (Only Patricia, not Fernanda apparently) and 2 opportunities.
As I entered the apartment, I was greeted by Patricia and Fernanda wearing some lovely black lingerie. Since Patricia and I have known each other for some time, we skipped the pleasantries. She grabbed my cock while I stuck my tongue in her mouth and groped her breasts. Silicone but nice to the touch! She introduced me to Fernanda, who reciprocated with a brief make-out session.
As it is obligatory with Patricia, I had to take a shower before we got down to business. The bathroom is not inside the room but down the hallway, which I consider to be a negative, since they share the apartment with other working girls and there is always the risk of bumping into someone unexpectedly, although they try to be careful about it.
Shower was quick and after I finished, I practically ran back into the room. Patricia and Fernanda were still wearing their lingerie, but I quickly remedied that.
Let me tell you, holding a babe in both arms, pushing both their breasts into my chest, making out with one while the other sucks my cock is a phenomenal way to end the day.
Patricia playfully pushed me onto the bed and started sucking my dick while Fernanda licked my testicles. After a bit, Patricia sat on my face while Fernanda assumed oral duties. With such an incredible opening, I knew I wasn't going to last long and said that I was going to cum. Patricia immediately took over the cockpit while Fernanda laid by my side and kissed me. I got the impression that Fernanda does not do CIM.
Patricia gleefully moaned as I ejaculated inside her mouth and made sure that every drop was accounted for. She excused herself to go the bathroom to clean herself up while Fernanda and I started kissing each other to kill time until her return.
Patricia was eager for round two but I needed a few minutes to recharge. So I laid with my stomach down on the bed while Patricia and Fernanda performed a simple but relaxing massage.
As soon I was ready for round two, Patricia put my dick in her mouth and gently stroked until I was at full mast. She put a condom on and started riding me reverse cowgirl. Fernanda laid by my side once more and kissed me, but there were brief moments where I had to focus my attention on Patricia's thick ass with a couple of slaps.
After a few minutes, Fernanda demanded her turn to try out my dick, so we got up and headed towards a section in the room where there was big mirror, where we could watch ourselves play with one another. Patricia switched out the condom while Fernanda bended over with her ass upward, urging me to fuck her from behind. I obliged.
As I thrusted in and out of Fernanda, Patricia would gently put her hand under my chin and redirect my gaze towards her and bless me with that sweet, sweet tongue of hers. There was a even a cute moment where she laid her head on my shoulder and smiled at me as I observed her in the mirror. Of course, I made sure to show some love to Fernanda as I slapped her ass and groped her amazing and natural breasts.
In the end, we headed back to bed and I finished by fucking Patricia doggystyle. I took another shower and as I was I putting my clothes back on, I enjoyed a lovely conversation with Patricia and Fernanda, discussing weekend plans and the weather.
I left that apartment with the biggest smile on my face. It was the type of experience that made me want to get down on my knees and thank god I was a man (Yes, I am quoting The Naked Gun Part 2).
An incredible sojourn, one that I highly recommend, considering the quality of the service and cost! Remember that the girls from Escort Privado charge 200 an hour + transportation fee!
Important notes:
1) Fernanda has a some pretty extensive shoulder tattoos, which are not advertised on her AX profile.
2) Patricia only speaks Portuguese while according to Fernanda's profile, she does speak English, but I cannot verify since I was able to scrap by with my broken Portuguese.
3) If you are interested in scheduling a joint session, you can reach out to Patricia directly.
Pecadozinho
04-30-25, 08:49
Lara Vincent, 1,73 m, Cabo Verde: https://www.apartadox.com/de/high-class-escort-lara-vincent-7113.Lara Vincent is highly recommended. Complete service, sensational natural body, and very good English.
Newton York
05-03-25, 01:04
How has the power cuts affected your hobbying? It's so weird that Portugal and Spain would have power cuts. Kinda weird.
What are everyone's thoughts on ideal age? I've seen escorts as young as 19 and as old as 48 in the past few years. Fantastic experiences at both ends of the spectrum mainly due to how new the ladies were to the game and how good they looked, but if I had to pick it would always be seeing escorts no older than 24, ideally 19-22, with very few exceptions. As I'm getting older, I'm personally finding that youth and beauty matters most, particularly when I'm renting her body for an hour or two.
Some of this is to do with social dynamics and relative age and experience. When I was in my thirties, older and younger women appealed to me equally. Now that I'm well into my forties, I don't see anything of value in women close to my age and it's all about putting my hands on some young hips.
I'm also finding that Gen Z women are far more sexually active than their millennial counterparts and the average lady has racked up a ton of sexual partners before turning to escorting. A lot more ladies at EP happen to be single mothers and are well under 30.
Mongerer88
05-03-25, 21:10
What are everyone's thoughts on ideal age? I've seen escorts as young as 19 and as old as 48 in the past few years. Fantastic experiences at both ends of the spectrum mainly due to how new the ladies were to the game and how good they looked, but if I had to pick it would always be seeing escorts no older than 24, ideally 19-22, with very few exceptions. As I'm getting older, I'm personally finding that youth and beauty matters most, particularly when I'm renting her body for an hour or two.
Some of this is to do with social dynamics and relative age and experience. When I was in my thirties, older and younger women appealed to me equally. Now that I'm well into my forties, I don't see anything of value in women close to my age and it's all about putting my hands on some young hips.
I'm also finding that Gen Z women are far more sexually active than their millennial counterparts and the average lady has racked up a ton of sexual partners before turning to escorting. A lot more ladies at EP happen to be single mothers and are well under 30.I am also relatively more attracted to the 19-24 year olds, but the highest quality ones are extremely difficult to find.
Many are inexperienced and it can be difficult to have a good time with a scared young lady.
And honestly, the ones in that age bracket who are extremely experienced often flame out very quickly and some even have mental health issues.
Of course there are some who fucked the hell out of a long-term boyfriend or now Ex-husband before doing escorting, and those ones are great. Supporting a baby gives them even extra motivation, as if paying education tuition isn't enough.
I think the key is variety. Experienced women in their 30's and 40's will in general always be the best sexually. Mix in a few ladies in their late teens and 20's and hope you get the gems who don't flame out or go psycho on you.
What are everyone's thoughts on ideal age? I've seen escorts as young as 19 and as old as 48 in the past few years. Fantastic experiences at both ends of the spectrum mainly due to how new the ladies were to the game and how good they looked,I have always had a very strong preference for MILFs and as I grow older that has not faded but, on the contrary, accentuated. Of all my best ever sex experiences and partners, 18 in 20 were certainly 30 yo plus wonderful MILFs.
For me I prefer girls who are in their 20's and 30's. Changing the subject some forumers here complained that the Portuguese sex scene has declined in years since COVID. Did things actually declined or it's a perception of decay based on nostalgia and bad experiences? Keep in mind that COVID badly damaged the sex scene in number of countries, and now recovering or close to generally speaking. Some popular girls have retired, but new girls who are young and have good services are still coming despite some fears that younger girls aren't escorting anymore. For me the sex scene would be better if there were more Portuguese girls working, but Portugal is not the only country with that problem.
CanuckGuy85
05-04-25, 07:00
What are everyone's thoughts on ideal age? I've seen escorts as young as 19 and as old as 48 in the past few years. Fantastic experiences at both ends of the spectrum mainly due to how new the ladies were to the game and how good they looked, but if I had to pick it would always be seeing escorts no older than 24, ideally 19-22, with very few exceptions. As I'm getting older, I'm personally finding that youth and beauty matters most, particularly when I'm renting her body for an hour or two.
Some of this is to do with social dynamics and relative age and experience. When I was in my thirties, older and younger women appealed to me equally. Now that I'm well into my forties, I don't see anything of value in women close to my age and it's all about putting my hands on some young hips.
I'm also finding that Gen Z women are far more sexually active than their millennial counterparts and the average lady has racked up a ton of sexual partners before turning to escorting. A lot more ladies at EP happen to be single mothers and are well under 30.For me my ideal age is between 20-25 but that also takes into account her attitude and how good she is in bed. I'd rather have a MILF in her 30's or even 40's that is awesome in the sack and has a good attitude than a 21 year old that's a starfish in bed with a bad attitude.
Great responses, guys. I will agree that older women are better escorts with one caveat: it's because they have lost most, if not all of their dating / relationship value and have to give the average guy with some money the best time possible. Back when they were in their teens and twenties and rejecting 90% of the attention they got, they reserved the sexual gymnastics for the top men and the highest price.
With these lazier younger ladies, they also do everything and go crazy in bed, but rarely will they do it for 200 euros an hour. They've got a guy they value more that they're giving everything to, and the average man barely gets what he thinks he's paid for. Alpha fucks, beta bucks, as they say.
The younger ladies do burn out on escorting very fast and I'm seeing the thousand cock stare on some who only started 6 months ago. Compared to the myriad avenues for sex work these days, prostitution is the low end of the market and too much work for Gen Z.
Mongerer88
05-04-25, 18:09
For me I prefer girls who are in their 20's and 30's. Changing the subject some forumers here complained that the Portuguese sex scene has declined in years since COVID. Did things actually declined or it's a perception of decay based on nostalgia and bad experiences? Keep in mind that COVID badly damaged the sex scene in number of countries, and now recovering or close to generally speaking. Some popular girls have retired, but new girls who are young and have good services are still coming despite some fears that younger girls aren't escorting anymore. For me the sex scene would be better if there were more Portuguese girls working, but Portugal is not the only country with that problem.I think the people who complain are pretty constant throughout the forums.
Prices increased after Covid throughout the world, and more effort is required now to find the highest quality sex workers.
The lowest prices forever were when a large number of ladies, often immigrants, worked in a fixed-location offering incall.
There are tremendous economic efficiencies available when that happens. The bigger the better. There aren't many tiny little WalMarts and few tiny German FKKs.
During Covid, there were simply "attacks" on anyplace or any thing involving a bunch of people in one place, whether it was a Church or a *****house. And there were fewer immigrants going from low income countries to higher income countries. Because no one could fucking travel without a note from your mother saying Sally Isn't Sick.
Granted it didn't affect Portugal quite as much as other countries, but the trend toward smaller incalls and ladies working independently picked up steam and stuck. It even worked during Covid. They didn't enforce it much, but LOS Angeles announced that you weren't supposed to travel other than for essentials, which included grocery shopping. Many high-end LOS Angeles escorts said on Twitter that they packed a grocery bag in their car on the way to outcall appointments. If asked, they shopped for their favorite uncle and they were going to cook for him after delivering the food, since he doesn't know how. Presumably it took her about an hour to do that cooking.
Many ladies presumably learned to enjoy working independently or with a few close girl friends. We have seen a trend away from the largest and least expensive incall options in North America and Europe over time. That started before Covid due to technology, but I think Covid accelerated it. It seems that ladies like it better. Which is good.
It means higher prices and greater need to use technology. I simply have little patience for the old guys who have complained about this trend for years. Learn to use your smartphone, and for USA Guys, including expats, FDR would turn over in his grave if he knew retirees would complain about their social security check not covering commercial sex transactions. I suspect the same is true for old European politicians who supported government pensions. If you are young enough to fuck, you are young enough to work. So earn enough money to pay market escort rates.
I think the people who complain are pretty constant throughout the forums.
Prices increased after Covid throughout the world, and more effort is required now to find the highest quality sex workers.
The lowest prices forever were when a large number of ladies, often immigrants, worked in a fixed-location offering incall.
There are tremendous economic efficiencies available when that happens. The bigger the better. There aren't many tiny little WalMarts and few tiny German FKKs.
During Covid, there were simply "attacks" on anyplace or any thing involving a bunch of people in one place, whether it was a Church or a *****house. And there were fewer immigrants going from low income countries to higher income countries. Because no one could fucking travel without a note from your mother saying Sally Isn't Sick.
Granted it didn't affect Portugal quite as much as other countries, but the trend toward smaller incalls and ladies working independently picked up steam and stuck. It even worked during Covid. They didn't enforce it much, but LOS Angeles announced that you weren't supposed to travel other than for essentials, which included grocery shopping. Many high-end LOS Angeles escorts said on Twitter that they packed a grocery bag in their car on the way to outcall appointments. If asked, they shopped for their favorite uncle and they were going to cook for him after delivering the food, since he doesn't know how. Presumably it took her about an hour to do that cooking.
Many ladies presumably learned to enjoy working independently or with a few close girl friends. We have seen a trend away from the largest and least expensive incall options in North America and Europe over time. That started before Covid due to technology, but I think Covid accelerated it. It seems that ladies like it better. Which is good.
It means higher prices and greater need to use technology. I simply have little patience for the old guys who have complained about this trend for years. Learn to use your smartphone, and for USA Guys, including expats, FDR would turn over in his grave if he knew retirees would complain about their social security check not covering commercial sex transactions. I suspect the same is true for old European politicians who supported government pensions. If you are young enough to fuck, you are young enough to work. So earn enough money to pay market escort rates.It's a lifestyle cost area, like self care and food. Dating or being a sugar daddy is way more expensive than paying an hourly fee, especially as I have no desire to be around a woman more than a few hours per week as my time is better spent on other pursuits at this point. Not going to complain about prices ever. Some women aren't worth what they charge but I can't knock them for trying. Some man is always willing to pay that much for any level of service.
On the flip side, would you really want to indulge in things that every man can afford? Desirability, perceived value and market value all correlate. A lot of men aren't productive enough in their lives and deserve to be priced out of the sexual market. Good motivation for them to self improve. Nothing, from casual normie dating to marriage to seeing sex workers is free.
I disagree that younger Gen Z girls are more likely to be burned out earlier than older generations based on experience and observation. I think it has always been that way. Escorting or any kind of sex work is not for everyone. And I have to say that it's a good thing that Gen Z girls in Portugal (and maybe most of Europe) are more sexually active. It seems to be the opposite in the US and UK.
HonestlyAverag
05-04-25, 23:11
I'll be traveling to Lisbon soon, and only have one night there. I've narrowed down my search to Vivianne Miller & Rebeca Diniz. Who should I go with?
I'll be traveling to Lisbon soon, and only have one night there. I've narrowed down my search to Vivianne Miller & Rebeca Diniz. Who should I go with?Friend, if you're only here for one night then I suggest you pass on the escorts and enjoy walking around this incredible city.
Go to Sala de Corte or Yakuza and spend that money on an amazing dinner for one.
I'll be traveling to Lisbon soon, and only have one night there. I've narrowed down my search to Vivianne Miller & Rebeca Diniz. Who should I go with?Check with them on their working hours and their availability during your visit. Becky doesn't work late evenings.
You cannot go wrong with either but if you have a comfortable hotel room then I would recommend Viviane for outcall.
Mongerer88
05-05-25, 12:12
I'll be traveling to Lisbon soon, and only have one night there. I've narrowed down my search to Vivianne Miller & Rebeca Diniz. Who should I go with?It is very difficult to compare the two ladies with the overall best reviews in the city to each other.
You can't go wrong with either of them.
We know nothing about you, which makes it even more difficult.
Rebeca Diniz is an independent who you can schedule in advance with. That might decide things right there.
Viviane Miller's availability will not be know for an absolute certainty until the day before the appointment, or possibly even the day of.
Rebeca is in her early 30's and at the top of her game sexually. She plays all three holes, does CIM, and is fluent in an English.
If you think the "hottest girl in class" chick in her early 20's is much more preferable than a lady in her early 30's, then go with Viviane. She has more restrictions than Rebeca. No anal sex or even anal play. If you vaginally finger her in a way she doesn't like, she will say no, so perhaps the best technique with her based on reports is to go down on her a lot and ask her to guide you on fingering. Even though her profile says CIM, she seems to prefer BBBJ with a last minute hand job to make you cum (if you intended to climax via oral). Viviane is not quite as English-fluent as Rebeca. Women who grow up in Brazil never learn much English, but Viviane is trying hard to do so.
Both are fetish-friendly, with Rebeca being a little bit more so. But they are both open-minded and fun.
As I said, you can't go wrong with either of them. It largely depends on your fantasies. On pure looks, I would give Viviane a 10 and Rebeca a 9, being biased toward youth on looks. On performance, I would give Rebeca a 10 and Viviane a 9. So it is a tie as far as I am concerned. I highly recommend them both.
Any street walkers around here or maybe in clubs?
Been a month back from Pattaya, it really is an adults disney land. Nothing like it in the world!Do you mean like Pattaya is the best? Just want to compare my thoughts, actually I think it is.
Mongerer88
05-06-25, 01:56
Do you mean like Pattaya is the best? Just want to compare my thoughts, actually I think it is.I have been to Pattaya. It was amusing. Good to do it once, but I wouldn't care to do it again. I liked Bangkok better, but not as well as I like Lisbon.
Portugal is a first-world country, that is not driving distance from second-world countries as one of these maps indicates, calling the second-world countries "peasant states".
https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_countries.htm
https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/first_world.htm
Thailand and Brazil, certainly well-liked by many Punters, are third world countries. Although Germany is a first world country, it has chosen to allow drive-in immigrants from second world counties to populate its sex work scene, generally in FKKs and other clubs.
To answer your question, no there is not a significant streetwalker scene nor are there inexpensive clubs populated by Romanians. The clubs are not popular and are more expensive than seeing an escort. The clubs are supper-type clubs. You take the lady back to your hotel, as there are not beds or nearby "love motels".
Women are equals in Portugal, as is the case in all first world countries. Prostitution is legal in Portugal. The women are businesspeople who schedule their sessions by appointment and have their own incall (often shared with other providers), or they travel to your hotel where they are allowed to come up to your room without being harassed.
Portugal is an example of how well commercial sex work can be performed in the first world. Immigrants fly in, which keeps the lowest denominator out due to the cost of flying being a barrier to entry. The Brazilian ladies are either getting an education and / or working other jobs in addition to sex work. The same is true for most native Portuguese sex workers.
The Portuguese don't want their country to be like Pattaya, with good reason. Really the same is true with respect to Brazil and its favellas. And I suspect the same with respect to Germany and its Eastern European transient sex workers.
The contributors to this forum tell you the best ladies to see, what they do, and how much they charge. Portugal has a tremendous scene that it keeps out of the public eye. It is affordable by first world standards with excellent GFE services. It doesn't want or need streetwalkers or roadside clubs with survival sex worker transients. Women doing sex work deserve better than that as well.
Definately the older women is better assuming they are not burned out. Older women think longer term and knows how to manage a relationship. They are likely to respect appointments. They also know how to screen guys. Thus, they are more relaxed and have less to worry about. All this translates into a greater level of intimacy. I find a pretty good percentage of girls that last long enough to be mature (not old) may actually enjoy the sexual encounter as long as the guy is respectful. The older girls may not have perfect looks, but if they keep up their appearances they are amazing. It is not uncommon for the younger girls to over do it, have mental issues, or drug problems. This can ruin their looks very quickly while the smarter girls think long term.
Apologies for the downbeat public announcement, but I tested positive for gonorrhea yesterday after developing symptoms over the weekend. I have already received a course of antibiotics today and will abstain from any sexual contact for at least one week.
As I have only slept with EP escorts in the last two months, I assume that I got this from one of them. In all cases, unprotected oral sex was performed both ways.
(edit - names of escorts removed to protect their privacy)
If you saw any EP ladies recently, please consider getting tested for peace of mind and if you are travelling to Lisbon intending to see an EP escort, then I would exercise caution and consider protected oral. Many of these girls work together in duos and group bookings even though it's not advertised on the site. I've noticed recently that many ladies are working while on their periods which can increase chances of infection as it's harder to maintain proper hygiene. It's also tourist season here.
I have contacted all of the ladies I've seen in the past 4 weeks to let them know.
This is not intended to slander anyone. Shit happens.
Apologies for the downbeat public announcement, but I tested positive for gonorrhea yesterday after developing symptoms over the weekend. I have already received a course of antibiotics today and will abstain from any sexual contact for at least one week.
As I have only slept with EP escorts in the last two months, I assume that I got this from one of them. In all cases, unprotected oral sex was performed both ways.
(edit - names of escorts removed to protect their privacy)
If you saw any EP ladies recently, please consider getting tested for peace of mind and if you are travelling to Lisbon intending to see an EP escort, then I would exercise caution and consider protected oral. Many of these girls work together in duos and group bookings even though it's not advertised on the site. I've noticed recently that many ladies are working while on their periods which can increase chances of infection as it's harder to maintain proper hygiene. It's also tourist season here.
I have contacted all of the ladies I've seen in the past 4 weeks to let them know.
This is not intended to slander anyone. Shit happens.I wish you a fast recovery mate.
There's another "high rated" incall escort that you guys need to be careful due the amount of "scum clients" she gets, according to the forum policy I can't say much more but if you guys know some about the Lisbon situation you can get what I'm talking about.
I won't say the name but if you check my previews posts there's a hint.
If a escort prefers money over selfcare, dignity and health that's a big redflag and a no for me.
I wish you a fast recovery mate.
There's another "high rated" incall escort that you guys need to be careful due the amount of "scum clients" she gets, according to the forum policy I can't say much more but if you guys know some about the Lisbon situation you can get what I'm talking about.
I won't say the name but if you check my previews posts there's a hint.
If a escort prefers money over selfcare, dignity and health that's a big redflag and a no for me.I always think about these things in terms of generalised risk, rather than a specific escort although sometimes the red flags are warranted.
Generally, sex with escorts is likely to be safer as protection is more likely to be used and both parties are more likely to get tested on a regular basis.
In around 400 encounters over nearly 20 years, I've caught an STD (Gonorrhea) twice. It was either from unprotected oral or a broken / faulty condom, which can never be ruled out. Overall, the risk I've faced is less than 1% although there are of course a number of STDs that cannot be prevented by condom use, so every encounter is rolling the dice.
If you have sex with a variety of women, eventually you're going to catch something. All you can do is minimise risk and exposure, which comes down to habits and where you choose to put your dick, which has as much to do with which city and country you're doing this in.
Portugal has higher rates of reported STD transmissions than the rest of Western Europe (around 14 k per 100 k tests, according to https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/std-rates-by-country). Tourist season is likely to amplify that risk, as well as seeing ladies in Lisbon and Porto which are the busiest areas for escorts.
Since I did not really get a rec, I ended up seeing jully carioca.
https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-jully-carioca
Her rates were 150 euro / HR 80/ hhr. I'm not sure why I went with the hour but I only got about 30 min of time. Apparently, business is slow for her because she seemed to have an open schedule.
Looks: photos are real, but her features were a bit darker. She is young, tall, and in good shape, though she has a large snake tattoo on one of her butt cheeks. Her face has some small pimple craters.
After the initial Hello, kiss on cheek, she was distant, moody, uncommunicative, rushed, and quiet. She seemed annoyed that I asked for water. She offered a shower which I took. She asked for cash upfront, though I stupidly opted for the HR. After shower, she offered a massage which was pretty terrible and useless. Then the flip. She stripped off, applied cover, oral, and then got on top and started grinding and riding me. No kissing allowed and she used excuse that the beard was scratching her. Mind you she has no English skills even though she is Brazilian.
Anyways, she seemed angry I came early and she cleaned me up. I asked to use restroom and I think she thought I asked for shower but I wanted to pee. She opened the door and some other dude was showering which brought a mutual chuckle and I was able to use the half bath nearby. Then a goodbye kiss and hug and her telling me she liked me which is full of crap.
Anyways, she has a hot bod but the service wasnt great and I wouldn't recommend. Definitely do not opt for an hour. I think I would have enjoyed a MILF more.
JAdventure12
05-09-25, 02:52
Book early with Rebecca Diniz. She does a good job with managing her bookings and knowing her availability. I contacted her two weeks in advance and everything went well. I sent her a reminder a day before to reconfirm. With all the other EP girls on your list, few days ahead is what they will tell you. Viviane told me to contact her 2- 3 days before the planned meet.
I contacted Flora Never two weeks before but she never responded. At that time she was out of country (based on her location on Euro escort), even though I saw that she was in Lisbon during my visit. But, no harm in reaching out to all of them to start the conversation.
Regarding threesome, I have never tried it but I believe in EP itself the girls themselves advertise the pairs. With someone like Rebecca, you can ask her to see who she will be comfortable with.
Good luck with your visit. Recently Lisbon has gotten great options to choose so I am pretty sure you will have a great time.Sorry for the late follow up, its been a hectic month. I appreciate both Austin's and JPTraveller's input on the threesome. I leave for my trip a week from tomorrow and unfortunately it looks like both Rebecca's and Julianna's profiles show they are unavailable at this time. Is there likely hood this is a short break for these two? I am uncertain how often they become unavailable and considering how close my trip is, seems unlikely I will be able to make plans with them.
Per a recent report I am considering setting up a threesome with Patricia Navarro and Fernanda Bono. I've also seen Sara's and Alexandra's on EP so that may be a good option, but curious to hear what others may think or if there are other options to consider. As always, thanks in advance.
Mongerer88
05-09-25, 13:32
Since I did not really get a rec, I ended up seeing jully carioca.
https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-jully-carioca
Her rates were 150 euro / HR 80/ hhr. I'm not sure why I went with the hour but I only got about 30 min of time. Apparently, business is slow for her because she seemed to have an open schedule.
Looks: photos are real, but her features were a bit darker. She is young, tall, and in good shape, though she has a large snake tattoo on one of her butt cheeks. Her face has some small pimple craters.
After the initial Hello, kiss on cheek, she was distant, moody, uncommunicative, rushed, and quiet. She seemed annoyed that I asked for water. She offered a shower which I took. She asked for cash upfront, though I stupidly opted for the HR. After shower, she offered a massage which was pretty terrible and useless. Then the flip. She stripped off, applied cover, oral, and then got on top and started grinding and riding me. No kissing allowed and she used excuse that the beard was scratching her. Mind you she has no English skills even though she is Brazilian..Jully Carioca has two reviews on the local board. They are both 2's out of 10, and she is indeed a disaster.
I don't understand your comment about not getting a recommendation. This thread has almost nothing but recommendations in it.
There are constantly lists of the top ten independents and top ten Escort Privada ladies to see. It is like a late night David Letterman show with top ten lists.
Mongerer88
05-09-25, 13:40
Bella Vaz received an excellent 9 out of 10 review on the local board from one of the most prolific reviewers on that board.
He said, and another commenter confirmed, that she gives an intense, action-packed session.
https://escortprivada.com/pt-pt/escort/bela-vaz/
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bela-vaz-8432
Bella Vaz received an excellent 9 out of 10 review on the local board from one of the most prolific reviewers on that board.
He said, and another commenter confirmed, that she gives an intense, action-packed session.
https://escortprivada.com/pt-pt/escort/bela-vaz/
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bela-vaz-8432I saw this review and noted that a few conflicting comments about Bela were posted right after by other members, which is unusual.
If she was that good, it wouldn't be a secret by now, although JPTraveller noted she's enthusiastic. Doesn't warrant a 9 out of 10 in my opinion for a lady in her late twenties who's under 5 feet and weighs over 100 pounds, but tastes differ.
The local board reviewers are an odd bunch. There are two groups. Guys looking for a bargain who get pissed off when the escort doesn't do cartwheels, and seemingly wealthier guys who melt at the sight of a hole and a smile.
I've seen 19 of the current EP roster and overall the ladies are clean, polite, quiet, attentive, willing to please and, honestly, quite boring. Most of them have never been escorts before and it shows. They have little sex appeal with their clothes on (you wouldn't notice most of them on the street) and don't know enough in the bedroom to truly please a man, and the next booking is already on their mind. But if you want to bust a nut with an attractive, easygoing lady, they are reliable providers.
The few standouts like Viviane and Alina Alvares have a little X factor in that they have charisma, technique and a lot of sexual energy. You still have to catch them at the right time as they're not robots, but they are young, naive and seeking pleasure. That almost never lasts once the weight of the business gets to them after the first few months.
There are very few women who are truly insatiable nymphos and can't get enough dick, no matter who it's attached to. I've only met one in four years here.
If you're lucky, you catch a young sex kitten type early in her career or the well preserved MILF living her slutty second life in the "45 is the new 25" phase. Everything else is at best reliable but unlikely to be remarkable.
You're so, so, so right!
There are very few women who are truly insatiable nymphos and can't get enough dick, no matter who it's attached to. I've only met one in four years here.
If you're lucky, you catch a young sex kitten type early in her career or the well preserved milf living her slutty second life in the "45 is the new 25" phase. Everything else is at best reliable but unlikely to be remarkable.
Women are equals in Portugal, as is the case in all first world countries. Prostitution is legal in Portugal. The women are businesspeople who schedule their sessions by appointment and have their own incall (often shared with other providers), or they travel to your hotel where they are allowed to come up to your room without being harassed.Well, good for them, but it doesn't make my life easier here, ha-ha. Thanks for you comment though.
Not a review, but I'm pretty sure this is the former Debora Pires / Tatiana Sousa / Ariana Pilar from EP, with a new hair colour. Body looks the same and she does the same poses on every new profile lmao. I seem to have a talent for spotting her multiple reincarnations.
This girl has had terrible reviews on the local board in the past but I saw her frequently during 2021-22 and always got a decent time out of her. I wouldn't recommend her at this point as she can be difficult to deal with and is definitely over 25 by now. Too bad as she gives a good BJ and has a fantastic set of natural tits.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-andreia-silva-8246
For my second day it turned into a scramble since dates started getting canceled and I had to leave. I ended up seeing Sofia Albuquerque, but big shout-out to Julia who is so sweet and patient with me. It's too bad she was on the other end of town.
Sofia gave good instructions and when we met up, she turned out to be a milfy big titty Brazilian. Poor to no English even though her ad said she speaks English.
It got a little odd when I asked for shopping recommendations.
No DFK, but pretty much everything else standard. She seemed to really enjoy the pounding. She offered shower before and after as well as water. This time I made sure to opt for 30 minutes and it worked out good.
She has a few extra pounds but the attitude is good. I ended up tipping her and extra 5 euros and she was so happy.
Until next time lisbon.
Since I did not really get a rec, I ended up seeing jully carioca.
https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-jully-carioca
Her rates were 150 euro / HR 80/ hhr. I'm not sure why I went with the hour but I only got about 30 min of time. Apparently, business is slow for her because she seemed to have an open schedule.
Looks: photos are real, but her features were a bit darker. She is young, tall, and in good shape, though she has a large snake tattoo on one of her butt cheeks. Her face has some small pimple craters.
After the initial Hello, kiss on cheek, she was distant, moody, uncommunicative, rushed, and quiet. She seemed annoyed that I asked for water. She offered a shower which I took. She asked for cash upfront, though I stupidly opted for the HR. After shower, she offered a massage which was pretty terrible and useless. Then the flip. She stripped off, applied cover, oral, and then got on top and started grinding and riding me. No kissing allowed and she used excuse that the beard was scratching her. Mind you she has no English skills even though she is Brazilian.
Anyways, she seemed angry I came early and she cleaned me up. I asked to use restroom and I think she thought I asked for shower but I wanted to pee. She opened the door and some other dude was showering which brought a mutual chuckle and I was able to use the half bath nearby. Then a goodbye kiss and hug and her telling me she liked me which is full of crap.
Anyways, she has a hot bod but the service wasnt great and I wouldn't recommend. Definitely do not opt for an hour. I think I would have enjoyed a MILF more.
JPTraveller
05-13-25, 10:06
Sorry for the late follow up, its been a hectic month. I appreciate both Austin's and JPTraveller's input on the threesome. I leave for my trip a week from tomorrow and unfortunately it looks like both Rebecca's and Julianna's profiles show they are unavailable at this time. Is there likely hood this is a short break for these two? I am uncertain how often they become unavailable and considering how close my trip is, seems unlikely I will be able to make plans with them.
Per a recent report I am considering setting up a threesome with Patricia Navarro and Fernanda Bono. I've also seen Sara's and Alexandra's on EP so that may be a good option, but curious to hear what others may think or if there are other options to consider. As always, thanks in advance.Just contact Juliana. I am sure she is there next week.
OlegnoBeck
05-13-25, 10:18
I was in Lisbon for some days and I was not looking for a classic escort but I was looking for a good Tantra / Nuru Massage.
I read this review made by our colleague Dboznach and other older reviews from Isis, I opened her ad and decided to contact her via WhatsApp.
https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa
I sent her the message, all the communication in English was marvelous and I felt that she might be the one I was looking for.
As already presented in the forum, Isis is a Brazilian masseur with an amazing body, marvelous big natural breasts with incredibly sensitive nipples and a face that I considered very beautiful but obviously each one can judge since the ad has face pictures.
When I arrived at her studio not far from my Hotel, I looked at her smile and immediately understood that the session would be good, but honestly, I was not expecting what I just experienced twice last week.
I went one day for 90 minutes - 220 - but unfortunately Isis will leave the Tantra world in some months and since I was here in Lisbon for some days I booked a second session for 2 hours - 290 . She has one-hour session for 150 too.
The difference between 90 minute and 120 minutes is basically the initial part where we are more relaxed and have more time in getting into the right Tantric environment.
This is a three-part massage like some users wrote before, where we start with standing at each other, with some touches in nothing bodies and then she starts the second part where the real Tantra massage starts where she touches all our body with a unique technique and with the most sensual touches I ever experienced in my recent years of Tantra.
Someone wrote that is "more sensual than sexual" but I really felt that the way she uses all her body to body in a Tantric environment is always on the verge of a sexual energy that is present.
The music, the environment, each one of her body movements are just unique as well as she uses her hands all over my body but touching intimately the cock in various ways. Even when I was laying down. And when I turned around its a whole new chapter where besides the hands, she uses her breasts magnificently with a tf that can't be much better than that and one of the highlight of the session.
The massage continues more and more sensual until she makes a perfect lingam at the same time I can slowly touch her body, her nipples, kiss some parts of her body but with no mouth kissing or intimate touches whatsoever in her clit right before the marvelous orgasm I had.
Last but not least, after the orgasm, she makes an amazing and surprising head massage making the experience absolutely unique and even more exclusive.
I was so blown away with the first session of 90 minutes but unfortunately she said that she will quit the Tantra massage soon and since I was here for some days, I booked another one of 2 hours just some days after, that was basically the same, with more connection and with more time in the first part of the session.
I really think that she is one of the best Tantra Nuru experts I ever had and that's why I decided to write a review just in case anyone is in Lisbon and wants to have a real Tantra experience.
No sex, no oral sex, no kissing or no intimate touching on her clit was allowed, so if we know the rules it is better to everyone.
I will try to come back before she leaves for real in a few months.
Thank you for the reviews on this forum, that helped me choose exactly what I was looking for.
Enjoy.
I'm not sure who was the first to recommend Isis, maybe it was ExExpatriate? Anyway I'm here to say Thanks, that is a great recommendation!
I was lucky enough to return to Lisbon for 48 hours. I've contacted both Isis and Angel from my last post before I got on the plane, and I was lucky again because this time Angel didn't reply but Isis did.
https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa
We arranged everything via Whatsapp, super easy and fast. I arrived to her place which is a little drive from the tourist area of town. She buzzed me in and the moment I saw her smile I knew I was in good hands. 10 minutes later, we where both sitting naked on the bad, I saw her breast and I knew I have struck gold! She has an amazing body, wow!.
JPTraveller
05-14-25, 09:08
Just contact Juliana. I am sure she is there next week.They do not always advertise on all sites but she's on here: https://portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-juliana-cavalcanti.
JAdventure12
05-15-25, 02:58
They do not always advertise on all sites but she's on here: https://portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-juliana-cavalcanti.Thanks a bunch, was able to get something set up with the two for my visit.
JPTraveller
05-17-25, 08:59
Thanks a bunch, was able to get something set up with the two for my visit.Cool. Enjoy! Make sure to report back!
MassageGuy404
05-22-25, 15:53
I had a senior account that I can no longer access so I have started a new one. I will be staying in Carcavelos beach this summer. I would certainly like to try a nuru massage. I have looked at the spas that are in the area and I am interested in Mandala Spa, I am not looking for Full service but rather a he or oral. Has anyone had any experiences here? Also I have been looking at the ladies on Apartado X. Any suggestions on someone in Cascais? Also anyone know of a provider that offers nuru at her incal? I plan on seeing several providers while I am there and will certainly be reporting back. Thank you gents for any insight.
Anyone else who lives here or spends significant time in Lisbon getting a bit bored with the scene? I'm thinking there haven't been any new stars in this game in the past few months.
Every time I look at the usual sites I can't really be bothered.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated LOL.
Anyone else who lives here or spends significant time in Lisbon getting a bit bored with the scene? I'm thinking there haven't been any new stars in this game in the past few months.
Every time I look at the usual sites I can't really be bothered.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated LOL.Just try Rossana:
"Rossana
Rossana lives and and is based in Lisbon but, now and then, she goes on tour in several other cities. By now she is in Porto but, I believe, will shortly be back in Lisbon. She is a Romanian 40 something MILF very much like what we can see in her photo shoota.
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...o-rossana-7865
https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/an...-gosta-de-foto
Those black piercing eyes, her slim, elegant and sexy body will do wonders, she's an exquisite kisser, and after a dedicated DATY - when she will literally erupt! - she will be all yours. A wonderful BBBJTC will surely be on the menu but no A-Level. Which, as far as I'm concerned is no problem".
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CanuckGuy85
05-25-25, 02:57
Anyone else who lives here or spends significant time in Lisbon getting a bit bored with the scene? I'm thinking there haven't been any new stars in this game in the past few months.
Every time I look at the usual sites I can't really be bothered.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated LOL.EP has a new young Portuguese girl Iris Mata that looks good if you want to check her out https://escortprivada.com/escort/iris-mata/.
Also Carol Frazao has a couple of good reviews on the local board if you haven't seen her https://escortprivada.com/escort/carol-frazao/.
EP has a new young Portuguese girl Iris Mata that looks good if you want to check her out https://escortprivada.com/escort/iris-mata/.
Also Carol Frazao has a couple of good reviews on the local board if you haven't seen her https://escortprivada.com/escort/carol-frazao/.I'll check them out when I get back soon.
OK, I'm back with a review on a new (I think) and young cutie.
Luiza is the tight yet curvy Brazilian depicted in her profile. She claimed to be 21, which seems about right. Looks are 100% accurate to the photos so they're definitely recent.
I wanted a vanilla GFE session for two hours and she delivered perfectly with the right amount of passion and relaxation on offer. Multiple blowjobs, sex in a few positions and a nice massage in between rounds on a very hot day. One extra thing to note: she was well dressed and smelled fresh with the right amount of perfume, as if she had gotten ready for a date. Nice little touch, and big change from outcall girls who occasionally arrive with wet hair, vape breath and the sweat of another man's nuts on their crotch.
One big positive is that she was attentive enough to get me rock hard, which doesn't always happen with the more mechanical providers who you go through the motions with, flinging an angry semi around the bedroom.
Someone else is handling her messages so she doesn't speak any English. Usually a negative for me but she's very expressive so we got through the session with some basic translations and unofficial sign language (basically, me pointing at my dick and suggesting positions like an orchestra conductor).
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/luiza-vasconcelos
Will be travelling to Lisbon in 2 weeks time for 4 days. Any suggestions for Prague style Pussycat massage (with kissing extra) provides in Lisbon parlors? Thanks heaps.
I was lucky enough to visit her again a few days ago. She is definitely top level, her massage is one of the best (if not the best) you'll get in Europe.
I've met her several times since my original post and I can confirm everything written in the original post is still correct to this day. She did make some changes to the "standard" session over time, but the basic idea remained the same as mentioned. This is might also be the only disadvantage for some. The session is what it is, take it or leave it. Do not expect any extras or kinks or whatever. Because there will be none.
She also mentioned to me she is planning to take a long vacation this summer and soon after she returns, she will be quitting. Whether or not it will eventually happens. We will have to wait and see.
I went one day for 90 minutes - 220 - but unfortunately Isis will leave the Tantra world in some months and since I was here in Lisbon for some days I booked a second session for 2 hours - 290 . She has one-hour session for 150 too.
Alright, so I'm browsing various sites earlier today looking for a skinny MILF bimbo, the tits on a stick type, and came across Karol's profile which according to the stats fit the bill nicely. Made some enquires about an incall and whomever handles the messages was prompt and friendly with replies.
Ultimately didn't pull the trigger on the visit as I kept looking at the photos and video and something seems very off. Large hands, face obscured in the video but shown from a few angles in the photos.
Don't get me wrong, some Brazilian women who are older, taller and hit the gym hard can look quite masculine, but I reckon Karol is trans.
Quite weird as Apartadox doesn't run any TS listings as far as I know, and I somehow doubt they would let a TS escort slip under the radar. Also, TS escorts are a thing in Lisbon as in most major European cities and tend to charge higher prices. Karol quoted standard rates of 150/ HR.
Anyway, I'm very wary of this as I reckon I've been fooled twice in my punting career, including with an escort at EP (no longer available) who looked so surgically altered it was very hard to tell the gender.
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-karol-dias-7796
OK, I'm back with a review on a new (I think) and young cutie.
Luiza is the tight yet curvy Brazilian depicted in her profile. She claimed to be 21, which seems about right. Looks are 100% accurate to the photos so they're definitely recent.
I wanted a vanilla GFE session for two hours and she delivered perfectly with the right amount of passion and relaxation on offer. Multiple blowjobs, sex in a few positions and a nice massage in between rounds on a very hot day. One extra thing to note: she was well dressed and smelled fresh with the right amount of perfume, as if she had gotten ready for a date. Nice little touch, and big change from outcall girls who occasionally arrive with wet hair, vape breath and the sweat of another man's nuts on their crotch.
One big positive is that she was attentive enough to get me rock hard, which doesn't always happen with the more mechanical providers who you go through the motions with, flinging an angry semi around the bedroom.
Someone else is handling her messages so she doesn't speak any English. Usually a negative for me but she's very expressive so we got through the session with some basic translations and unofficial sign language (basically, me pointing at my dick and suggesting positions like an orchestra conductor).
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/luiza-vasconcelosThe girls at Mulhersvip look fantastic. Any idea how good their service is and how accurate the pictures? Also, does anyone know the standard rates for these girls if there is one?
OK, I'm back with a review on a new (I think) and young cutie.
Luiza is the tight yet curvy Brazilian depicted in her profile. She claimed to be 21, which seems about right. Looks are 100% accurate to the photos so they're definitely recent.
I wanted a vanilla GFE session for two hours and she delivered perfectly with the right amount of passion and relaxation on offer. Multiple blowjobs, sex in a few positions and a nice massage in between rounds on a very hot day. One extra thing to note: she was well dressed and smelled fresh with the right amount of perfume, as if she had gotten ready for a date. Nice little touch, and big change from outcall girls who occasionally arrive with wet hair, vape breath and the sweat of another man's nuts on their crotch.
One big positive is that she was attentive enough to get me rock hard, which doesn't always happen with the more mechanical providers who you go through the motions with, flinging an angry semi around the bedroom.
Someone else is handling her messages so she doesn't speak any English. Usually a negative for me but she's very expressive so we got through the session with some basic translations and unofficial sign language (basically, me pointing at my dick and suggesting positions like an orchestra conductor).
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/luiza-vasconcelosThe girls at Mulhersvip look fantastic. Any idea how good their service is and how accurate the pictures? Also, does anyone know the standard rates for these girls if there is one?
The girls at Mulhersvip look fantastic. Any idea how good their service is and how accurate the pictures? Also, does anyone know the standard rates for these girls if there is one?It's not an agency, so every lady has her own prices. I've been quoted everything from 120 to 250 an hour for an incall.
I've found photos to be very accurate. These girls advertise on multiple sites so you can cross reference the listing.
Spent an incall hour with Mary this evening and thoroughly enjoyed it. The apartment was pretty awful but that's what you get in Saldanha and these girls do switch locations a lot. Lisbon is a pretty safe city to punt in if you stick to escort listings on the major sites with verified photos etc. But I'm always wary of a run down apartment, and this one was on the cusp of being a spot to avoid.
Unfortunately, she doesn't look quite like the perfect elfish waif in the photos. Her face is very pretty and reminded me a little of Flora Neves but she has a cheap boob job with some scars and her skin was rough in areas.
The sex itself was great and she delivered everything with enthusiasm. Only spoke a little English but enough to get by.
Overall, I liked her but would give a mild recommendation as there is plenty on offer in Lisbon at her price and her looks won't suit everyone's tastes.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/mary-EVIW
Last EP review for a while unless someone new joins who looks out of this world.
Iris is very attractive. A beautiful face and sense of style, you'd definitely notice her on the street. She also has a very shapely natural and tanned body.
That's where the positives end for me. We didn't click and the booking went steadily downhill. The sex consisted of two aborted attempts lasting a few minutes and I let her leave early.
My expectation is that the escorts who come to my home will be courteous and professional. I found Iris to be brazen, thin skinned and verging on argumentative at times. I think she has a volatile personality and that messes with the mutual trust needed in an outcall scenario.
You're a similar age to me and I too prefer younger ladies. I think it's a combination of wanting to feel young again, and simply finding younger ladies more attractive physically. Having said that, there have been times when I've had great service from a lady I didn't find all that attractive, but my head wanted to book her again (for example, the now departed Dalila Castro / Maria Conceicao). That tells me that whilst an important selection criteria is physical attraction initially (Dalila's pics appealed), good service leaves a mark on me irrespective of looks.
Older ladies (30+) definitely can deliver better service in my experience, but they are equally likely to short change you in various ways due to their experience. I have recently seen the famous Rebeca Diniz (early 30's) and I suffered a bit of the latter unfortunately (I'll be the only person in the history of punting to not score her a 10).
The oldest advertised age I tend to pick is early 30's, and even that is very rare! Just a rule I have set myself.
What are everyone's thoughts on ideal age? I've seen escorts as young as 19 and as old as 48 in the past few years. Fantastic experiences at both ends of the spectrum mainly due to how new the ladies were to the game and how good they looked, but if I had to pick it would always be seeing escorts no older than 24, ideally 19-22, with very few exceptions. As I'm getting older, I'm personally finding that youth and beauty matters most, particularly when I'm renting her body for an hour or two.
Some of this is to do with social dynamics and relative age and experience. When I was in my thirties, older and younger women appealed to me equally. Now that I'm well into my forties, I don't see anything of value in women close to my age and it's all about putting my hands on some young hips.
I'm also finding that Gen Z women are far more sexually active than their millennial counterparts and the average lady has racked up a ton of sexual partners before turning to escorting. A lot more ladies at EP happen to be single mothers and are well under 30.
I admire your resilience and mental strength for not allowing this to deter you from seeing escorts. I can see you have cracked on with business as usual! Appreciate that you've 'only' been affected less than 1% of the time, but it still requires an element of mental strength to shrug it off. Have you gone back to bbbj, reverse oral and kissing now?
Apologies for the downbeat public announcement, but I tested positive for gonorrhea yesterday after developing symptoms over the weekend. I have already received a course of antibiotics today and will abstain from any sexual contact for at least one week.
As I have only slept with EP escorts in the last two months, I assume that I got this from one of them. In all cases, unprotected oral sex was performed both ways.
(edit - names of escorts removed to protect their privacy)
If you saw any EP ladies recently, please consider getting tested for peace of mind and if you are travelling to Lisbon intending to see an EP escort, then I would exercise caution and consider protected oral. Many of these girls work together in duos and group bookings even though it's not advertised on the site. I've noticed recently that many ladies are working while on their periods which can increase chances of infection as it's harder to maintain proper hygiene. It's also tourist season here.
I have contacted all of the ladies I've seen in the past 4 weeks to let them know.
This is not intended to slander anyone. Shit happens.
JAdventure12
06-09-25, 02:03
Cool. Enjoy! Make sure to report back!Finally finding some time to post a follow up to my trip in May. Overall, Lisbon was stellar and likely my favorite city I've been to for these kinds of activities. Did a brief stay in Barcelona and much preferred the scene and ladies in Lisbon.
Starting off with the threesome with Rebeca Diniz and Julia Cavalcanti. I very much appreciate the recommendation as it was definitely the way to go. Both are gorgeous and know how to do their job well. The chemistry between the two is just as described and made my first threesome a comfortable one. From watching them both go down on me, to them playing with each other while I watched, and then fucking Rebecca while she plays with Julia, it was an incredible experience. I would definitely repeat if I were to revisit the city in the future.
I did see a variety of ladies throughout my stay, mostly half hour sessions as I was looking for variety and balancing normal tourism activities. Listing in order of who I enjoyed the most.
Patricia Navarro. Simply the best. She was the first one I saw upon arrival and saw her again right before heading to the airport for departure. She was very accommodating in making my early session on the day I was leaving feasible. She is stunning, great taste in lingerie and her energy is top notch. Her DFK was immediate and could't have asked for better. Her BBBJ skills were great and I liked her desire to try various positions throughout the sessions.
Eller Rocha. A stunning beauty and I couldn't get over her smile. She was fun and enjoyed the time with her.
Rita Silva. She was in her younger 20's and a stunner. Her reverse cowgirl skills were great and watching her ass bounce was sight to behold. Her English skills are good and I appreciated being able to converse with her.
Morgana Cruz. Another beauty and session was good overall, but felt like she wanted to rush the BBBJ.
Ines Vaz. Her service was really good and I thoroughly enjoyed her massage leading up to playing. Really only putting her lowest on the list due to her looks not being a great as the others.
Sadly I wasn't able to connect with Viviane Miller after trying a couple of times, she just wasn't working the days I was there. Only real disappointment from what was an otherwise great trip.
I admire your resilience and mental strength for not allowing this to deter you from seeing escorts. I can see you have cracked on with business as usual! Appreciate that you've 'only' been affected less than 1% of the time, but it still requires an element of mental strength to shrug it off. Have you gone back to bbbj, reverse oral and kissing now?I get tested every 6 months anyway. Not doing reverse oral anymore as too many of these outcall girls are barebacking and not cleaning themselves properly between clients.
Branching out again and looking for some value for money encounters in the city, I came across Giorgia's profile on Mulheres. She goes by a few other names on different sites (Chloe on Eurogirls, for one), with different prices. I settled on 280 euros for two hours with whomever manages her number.
As for the venue, it's what can be best described as a knocking shop in Saldanha a few blocks away from El Corte Ingles. A nondescript building with a frosted glass door, and inside are 20 or so rooms with working girls in each one. Not my kind of place at all and I considered walking but Giorgia was pretty and polite enough for me to give it a shot.
Solid vanilla service ensued with multiple rounds of oral and intercourse. She's petite with large bolt-ons and a bit younger looking than her profile suggests. These types of Brazilian ladies are common in Lisbon but she's as attractive as most of the ladies at EP, at a much better price. Of course, these incalls are glorified pump and dump sessions so don't expect an outcall GFE, although she was very chill and friendly.
In summary, I disliked the venue but loved the company. I probably won't return any time soon as there are lots of other ladies on the list.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/giorgia-926375717
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/chloe/725273/?list=23ov2
First major red flag on an incall. Arranging the booking went fine but when I arrived at the building on a typical residential street in Alameda, she was very slow to give me the apartment number. I also noticed a chap loitering across the street who I clocked as a pimp /"security".
I decided to walk off and she promptly messaged, asking me to come back (which let me know I was being watched) and said the door was open. I decided against better judgment to head back as I was only a minute away and when I came back, the suspicious chap was no longer on the street and the door to the building was slightly open. I entered and Safira opened the door to one of the ground floor apartments, which confirmed that she would have been able to see me on the street when I first arrived.
She seemed friendly enough but appeared a bit zoned out or high. I went into the room, had a look around and thought better of it. I told her I was going to leave and when I opened the door, the chap from the street was in the hallway a few feet away from me!
I walked past him briskly and nothing came of it but the red flags were obvious. I'm well aware that escorts have security nearby at all times but this didn't feel right. As for the girl, she seemed nice enough and was attractive but not exactly like the pictures. When we entered the room, her attention was clearly on something else. She also stayed near the door instead of making any moves to welcome me and get me comfortable.
I maintain this is one of the safest cities in the world for all sorts of fun activities but keep your guard up.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/safira
Mongerer88
06-25-25, 04:32
A couple of reports worth noting from the local board.
Two of the new younger EP ladies received good reviews.
Ana Rebelo is a genuine 19-20 year old, and while inexperienced (especially at oral) was according to the reviewer enthusiastic overall and aimed to please him. She will certainly become more experienced over time. He gave her an 8 out of 10.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/ana-rebelo/
And Gabriela Fontes received two excellent reviews on the local board, an 8 out of 10 and a 10 out of 10. She is mid-20's, and was reviewed as delivering an excellent GFE performance. While she grew up in Portugal, her family has Romanian heritage and was described as beautiful.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/gabriela-fontes/
Aristhotle
06-26-25, 23:25
Want to know where are the higher end establishments (brothels or strip clubs where the girls fuck) in Lisbon, and Portugal in general. Will be wondering around Lisbon for 10 days and I want to eat. I love beautiful black girls (ebony or mixed, Brazilian or African), and prioritize them though high beauty / looks makes me eat whatever race / color around. Where would the higher end hotter black working girls more likely be? Where in general are the higher end girls? My dream goal is find 2 black bi DIMES for a threesome where not only I fuck them, but they also have sex with each other. Of course any beautiful 2 girls for a bi duo is also acceptable. Which establishments do I search?
Mongerer88
06-27-25, 13:26
Want to know where are the higher end establishments (brothels or strip clubs where the girls fuck) in Lisbon, and Portugal in general. Will be wondering around Lisbon for 10 days and I want to eat. I love beautiful black girls (ebony or mixed, Brazilian or African), and prioritize them though high beauty / looks makes me eat whatever race / color around. Where would the higher end hotter black working girls more likely be? Where in general are the higher end girls? My dream goal is find 2 black bi DIMES for a threesome where not only I fuck them, but they also have sex with each other. Of course any beautiful 2 girls for a bi duo is also acceptable. Which establishments do I search?Lisbon works differently than what you might be accustomed to.
There are not full-service strip joints or traditional brothels.
The independent women work at incall trick pads. Some gave their own exclusive place, but most share the incall space with other ladies and coordinate with other ladies regarding the availability of the space.
Consequently, commercial sex in Portugal occurs via appointments generally made in advance using WhatsApp. There are people on the ISG board who simply can't accept that. Hopefully you are not one of them.
Here are some well-reviewed dark-skinned ladies. European escorts are very sexually liberated. I suspect every single one of them is inherently bisexual. They can schedule a threesome with you and one of their many doubles partners.
Note for those reading this post long from now, some of the traditional favorites are not listed below simply because many are on vacation at the moment.
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-malu-mello-3880
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-vincent-7113
When you contact them via WhatsApp, they provide their prices.
They are all GFE, including BBBJ.
The incall independents are less expensive than the outcall ladies who work with Escort Privada.
If you want outcall, Raquel Costa is the best reviewed Black lady at EP.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/
Aristhotle
06-27-25, 19:47
Lisbon works differently than what you might be accustomed to.
There are not full-service strip joints or traditional brothels.
The independent women work at incall trick pads. Some gave their own exclusive place, but most share the incall space with other ladies and coordinate with other ladies regarding the availability of the space.
Consequently, commercial sex in Portugal occurs via appointments generally made in advance using WhatsApp. There are people on the ISG board who simply can't accept that. Hopefully you are not one of them.
Here are some well-reviewed dark-skinned ladies. European escorts are very sexually liberated. I suspect every single one of them is inherently bisexual. They can schedule a threesome with you and one of their many doubles partners.
Note for those reading this post long from now, some of the traditional favorites are not listed below simply because many are on vacation at the moment.
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-malu-mello-3880
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-vincent-7113
When you contact them via WhatsApp, they provide their prices.
They are all GFE, including BBBJ.
The incall independents are less expensive than the outcall ladies who work with Escort Privada.
If you want outcall, Raquel Costa is the best reviewed Black lady at EP.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/Fucking GOLD. And in that site, there are black and mixed girls too. WONDERFUL! I will be hunting.
Any other higher end reliable sites just like that apartadox one you left?
Also there isn't a risk of there being post-op trannies on those sites, right? Was snooping through Western European higher end escorts and I can clearly tell there are some post op trannies posing as regular CIS gender women (man hands, manly throat, etc). Definitely want to avoid that. Though from what I see on that site, only one has me suspicious. The rest of the girls are WONDERFUL. Will be messaging them now. Any other intel, let me know here. I will report my results once my trip ends on August 1st.
Here are some well-reviewed dark-skinned ladies. And... the beatiful, sex lioness Bia Santos: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bia-santos-5091.
Mongerer88
06-27-25, 20:20
And... the beatiful, sex lioness Bia Santos: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bia-santos-5091.Yes, sorry, I should have listed Bia Santos.
Another couple of obvious omissions on my part for darker-skinned ladies are these two.
https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mel-Pires-5408
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sophie-a-7071
And Aristotle will want to check back closer to the time of his trip and see if any of these ladies ads have become active again. Most are on vacation. I very highly recommend dark-skinned Rebeca Diniz if she is back.
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=6364
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=5459
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=4429
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=7806
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=7677
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=7168
There are a lot of stars on vacation right now. Maybe they are Lezzing it together someplace awesome.
While not dark-skinned, one of Kama's favorites is thick like many Black girls and is very highly rated, so she should be on the list. She is Ines Vaz.
https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/
For what it is worth, there isn't a big TS scene in Lisbon. None of the ladies listed on the recommended ladies posts in the last 20 pages is either a pre or post op TS.
OK, this girl is so good I almost don't want to share the info.
Livia is a stunning and statuesque young Brazilian lady, around 5'7" tall with enhanced tits and incredible curves. I'd put her in the top 5 of the 30+ escorts I've seen in Lisbon. Her English is very good and she has a sweetness and sexiness about her which grabs your full attention. Around 24 years old, looks younger and has the proper manners of someone far older. A nice package.
Sex was an absolutely perfect GFE and I left completely exhausted. An appropriate encounter on one of the hottest days of the year.
Highly recommended. She's an independent who moves around a lot so availability in Lisbon is limited.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/livia-960145394
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-aura-livia-8979
Aristhotle
06-28-25, 17:33
For what it is worth, there isn't a big TS scene in Lisbon. None of the ladies listed on the recommended ladies posts in the last 20 pages is either a pre or post op TS.Thank god. But browsing around, I found some fishy ads where the girl clearly is post op tranny posing as a regular CIS gender girl.
https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/166-massagens-lisboa/432488-linda-black-massagista-brasile
I also before settling on Lisbon found a few suspicious ads of higher end girls in London and France. I have nothing against trans people, but I do not like when they are post op and posing as regular CIS girls without disclosing they're trans. That's a huge violation. So just looking out for myself and others here who look to avoid the same.
Mongerer88
06-28-25, 17:54
Thank god. But browsing around, I found some fishy ads where the girl clearly is post op tranny posing as a regular CIS gender girl.
https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/166-massagens-lisboa/432488-linda-black-massagista-brasile
I also before settling on Lisbon found a few suspicious ads of higher end girls in London and France. I have nothing against trans people, but I do not like when they are post op and posing as regular CIS girls without disclosing they're trans. That's a huge violation. So just looking out for myself and others here who look to avoid the same.Classificadosx is low-end. There is one recommended lady, Lara, who advertises there. But like skipthegames in the USA And LeoList in Canada, it is just a site you avoid as a tourist. And most of the locals seem to avoid it as well, for that matter.
If you focus on the 20-30 or so ladies mentioned favorably in the last 10 pages, including the top-notch one that PER23 just gave us, you will have plenty to take care of you for ten days.
I will WhatsApp Rebeca Diniz and see if she is on Holiday or just took her ad down for a little bit because she is too busy with regulars. She has done that before, but she often still takes new customers who wrote her number down before she took her ad down, so I will private message you if that is the case. As you know, we can't include phone numbers in posts. You would love her. She has dark skin as a result of some African lineage in her family. She and her friend Juliana Calvalcanti do a great threesome according to reviews, and there was a fantastic review of a Juliana and Isis Nogueira on the local board. All three of those ladies get 9's and 10's out of 10 from everyone who reviews them. I am not much into threesomes, personally. Here are their links, which will become active again eventually.
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=6364
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=5459
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=4429
Thank god. But browsing around, I found some fishy ads where the girl clearly is post op tranny posing as a regular CIS gender girl.
https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/166-massagens-lisboa/432488-linda-black-massagista-brasile
I also before settling on Lisbon found a few suspicious ads of higher end girls in London and France. I have nothing against trans people, but I do not like when they are post op and posing as regular CIS girls without disclosing they're trans. That's a huge violation. So just looking out for myself and others here who look to avoid the same.I doubt this particular escort is a TS as there are multiple profiles and videos where her breasts appear to be real. Having said that, there are a lot of masculine looking ladies from Brazil on the major sites and a few appear to be trans. I've pointed out one a few weeks ago but it isn't extensively covered as a topic on any of the review forums.
I have seen a few escorts here who have taken PEDs (steroids etc.) for fitness and bodybuilding which obviously leads to a masculine appearance. Luckily, the real feminine women are easy enough to find and there are lots of them, especially in the summer months.
Aristhotle
06-28-25, 21:16
I doubt this particular escort is a TS as there are multiple profiles and videos where her breasts appear to be real. Having said that, there are a lot of masculine looking ladies from Brazil on the major sites and a few appear to be trans. I've pointed out one a few weeks ago but it isn't extensively covered as a topic on any of the review forums.
I have seen a few escorts here who have taken PEDs (steroids etc.) for fitness and bodybuilding which obviously leads to a masculine appearance. Luckily, the real feminine women are easy enough to find and there are lots of them, especially in the summer months.Good points. Yes, many Brazilians get into fitness and weights into their late 20's and 30's. It may influence their bodies.
I just organized a threesome for middle July with the Brazilian black girl Alicia Blanco (https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-alicia-blanco-8475). She told me she is bi so that's confirmed. She clearly is not trans.
The other girl she proposed to me was Brazilian but not listed in apartadox. She looked ok. So I'll report what happens. With the other girl, when I see her, I'll have to be on trans watch. Though I doubt a higher end girl is out there doing bi threeways with post op trannies. Will have to see when I get there.
Again, I have nothing against trans people. Just I hate when they lie and try and be sneaky. Sorry. You might be a trans girl, but you aren't the same as a CIS girl. And most straight CIS men (us) do not like trans girls. We like regular CIS girls. There do exist some CIS men who like trans. The trans ladies should be honest and go target them instead of trying to fool us straight CIS guys.
Aristhotle
06-28-25, 21:18
I will WhatsApp Rebeca Diniz and see if she is on Holiday or just took her ad down for a little bit because she is too busy with regulars. She has done that before, but she often still takes new customers who wrote her number down before she took her ad down, so I will private message you if that is the case. As you know, we can't include phone numbers in posts. You would love her. She has dark skin as a result of some African lineage in her family. She and her friend Juliana Calvalcanti do a great threesome according to reviews, and there was a fantastic review of a Juliana and Isis Nogueira on the local board. All three of those ladies get 9's and 10's out of 10 from everyone who reviews them. I am not much into threesomes, personally. Here are their links, which will become active again eventually.
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=6364
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=5459
https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=4429PM me her number. Beautiful black or mixed girls being super lesbian with another gorgeous girls before I join in is my cup of coffee.
Aristhotle
06-28-25, 21:36
I just organized a threesome for middle July with the Brazilian black girl Alicia Blanco (https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-alicia-blanco-8475). She told me she is bi so that's confirmed. She clearly is not trans.Also I was quoted 150 Euros per hour per girl (so 2 girls is 300 Euros per hour). Not as expensive as I thought. I have to imagine the even better ones are 200-250 an hour, correct?
Also I was quoted 150 Euros per hour per girl (so 2 girls is 300 Euros per hour). Not as expensive as I thought. I have to imagine the even better ones are 200-250 an hour, correct?Doesn't really work like that here. Girls charge based on their expenses, anywhere from 120-300 per hour for an incall. The escorts who work the UAE circuit are going to charge more when they come here to escape the middle eastern heat for the summer, but they're usually just staying in nicer locations and pricing that in. You're paying for a better bedroom, not a better time.
150 is the sweet spot for an incall and I would say the maximum you want to spend for price / performance.
Again, I have nothing against trans people. Just I hate when they lie and try and be sneaky. Sorry. You might be a trans girl, but you aren't the same as a CIS girl. And most straight CIS men (us) do not like trans girls. We like regular CIS girls. There do exist some CIS men who like trans. The trans ladies should be honest and go target them instead of trying to fool us straight CIS guys.Are you sure this is a real problem? Because from my experience in Brazil, it's not. I have been using Tinder a lot in Brazi, and the app showed me a lot of profiles of trans women. And every time I would have a doubt about the true nature" of a person, she would turn out to be trans, but she would say that very clearly in her profile description.
And this made a lot of sense to me. Because a trans woman that would lie about her biological sex would put her life or at least her health in danger meeting a straight guy.
While not dark-skinned, one of Kama's favorites is thick like many Black girls and is very highly rated, so she should be on the list. She is Ines Vaz.
https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/ Oh yeeeesss! Very definitely so.
Are you sure this is a real problem? Because from my experience in Brazil, it's not. I have been using Tinder a lot in Brazi, and the app showed me a lot of profiles of trans women. And every time I would have a doubt about the true nature" of a person, she would turn out to be trans, but she would say that very clearly in her profile description.
And this made a lot of sense to me. Because a trans woman that would lie about her biological sex would put her life or at least her health in danger meeting a straight guy.We're talking about post op trans 'women' when it comes to these female-only escort sites and, unlike the pre-op "Chicks with dicks" on dating apps, they're unlikely to disclose it. There are three women on ApartodoX who I believe are trans:
Karol Dias.
Nahuria Valmonte / Hanna Linz.
Lolita Haze.
One (Nahuria / Hanna) I met in person and walked because her voice was as deep as mine. She claimed she was a former bodybuilder and steroid user and even showed me some old photos of her at the gym in her competing days. I love a fitness chick but I wasn't buying it in her case.
Aristhotle
06-29-25, 05:16
There are three women on ApartodoX who I believe are trans:
Karol Dias.
Nahuria Valmonte / Hanna Linz.
Lolita Haze.
One (Nahuria / Hanna) I met in person and walked because her voice was as deep as mine. She claimed she was a former bodybuilder and steroid user and even showed me some old photos of her at the gym in her competing days. I love a fitness chick but I wasn't buying it in her case.Jesus. They look like men alright. Are you all sure there aren't higher end strip clubs or brothels in Lisbon to fuck real CIS gender girls? Meeting them before hand is quite an advantage for us.
Earlier I was referring to post op ones, not ones who didn't get their dicks mutilated. If you go on Reddit, there are a number of post op trans who brag about being high end escorts that pass for real CIS women, and that it's no one's business because "it shouldn't matter because we are the same as any girl" (no you're not). Again I support trans rights. Just I do not support dishonesty in not telling men before entering a potentially sexual relationship (of any kind).
JPTraveller
06-29-25, 15:55
PM me her number. Beautiful black or mixed girls being super lesbian with another gorgeous girls before I join in is my cup of coffee.Most of the time their portal privado profiles are up e. G https://portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escort-juliana-cavalcanti.
The best four girls for 3-some (or more. In any combinations) in my opinion (all organizable easily via Juliana) are:
Juliana.
Rebeca Diniz.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lana/581108/
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/marie/162357/
They all know and love each other. You can watch and join later.
Aristhotle
06-29-25, 21:52
Most of the time their portal privado profiles are up e. G https://portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escort-juliana-cavalcanti.
The best four girls for 3-some (or more. In any combinations) in my opinion (all organizable easily via Juliana) are:
Juliana.
Rebeca Diniz.
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lana/581108/
https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/marie/162357/
They all know and love each other. You can watch and join later.Thanks. Eeehhhh. They're not my type to be honest. Too pale. But I'm still hunting for 2 beautiful black bi girls.
Now if I were to go for girls with lighter skin, I'd go for these two:
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-maria-joao-e-sofia-nunes-8646
Granted they're in Porto but I'd hop a train. That is if anyone here has intel on them.
Mongerer88
06-29-25, 22:15
Thanks. Eeehhhh. They're not my type to be honest. Too pale. But I'm still hunting for 2 beautiful black bi girls.
Now if I were to go for girls with lighter skin, I'd go for these two:
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-maria-joao-e-sofia-nunes-8646
Granted they're in Porto but I'd hop a train. That is if anyone here has intel on them.Maria has good reviews on the local board. A 7 and an 8 out of 10.
I don't see any reviews of Sofia yet.
They are escortprivada ladies. So they are outcall only. They would come to your hotel room in Porto.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-sofia/
If you are doing a 10 day Lisbon trip with no particular itinerary, Porto is not a bad side trip.
I like EscortPrivada, unlike some of the folks here.
But if you go to Porto to see them, you would want to make it clear to the EP booker that you are going there because you want a threesome with those particular ladies. In other words, emphasizing that you do not want a substitution.
As I mentioned, Raquel Costa is a well reviewed Black lady with EP in Lisbon, and she does duos. If outcall is okay, you can WhatsApp message her number and ask who her favorite duo partners are. You can check back here and get feedback. I have done a duo (even though I am not a huge duo fan) with Sara Valente. She is very good regarding threesomes. So you might ask if Raquel and Sara are duo partners. The only issue is that Sara is a bit more part-time than she used to be.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/
https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/
Mongerer88
06-29-25, 23:42
Thanks. Eeehhhh. They're not my type to be honest. Too pale. But I'm still hunting for 2 beautiful black bi girls.
Now if I were to go for girls with lighter skin, I'd go for these two:
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-maria-joao-e-sofia-nunes-8646
Granted they're in Porto but I'd hop a train. That is if anyone here has intel on them.Did you click on the first link that JPTraveler provided to you?
https://portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escort-juliana-cavalcanti
Juliana is a tall bisexual dark-skinned lady.
If you send her a WhatsApp message, you can see if she is available during your trip, and she will likely know whether her friends and duo partners Rebecca Diniz and Isis Nogueira will be available for a threesome during that time.
JPTraveller
06-30-25, 12:09
Did you click on the first link that JPTraveler provided to you?
https://portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escort-juliana-cavalcanti
Juliana is a tall bisexual dark-skinned lady.
If you send her a WhatsApp message, you can see if she is available during your trip, and she will likely know whether her friends and duo partners Rebecca Diniz and Isis Nogueira will be available for a threesome during that time.Yes exactly. Juliana will get them if they are available. The other ones were for the benefit of others.
Mongerer88
06-30-25, 13:43
Yes exactly. Juliana will get them if they are available. The other ones were for the benefit of others.Yes, and more good news. Rebecca Diniz is available. She just isn't running an ad because she is plenty busy with regulars and new customers who took note of her WhatsApp number when her ad was active. The ad will of course eventually be active again.
Aristhotle
06-30-25, 17:37
We're talking about post op trans 'women' when it comes to these female-only escort sites and, unlike the pre-op "Chicks with dicks" on dating apps, they're unlikely to disclose it. By the way, talking of trans women posing as real CIS women escorting around the high end, here is one I found that runs around Belgium and England. Can you tell she is post-op trans?
https://www.noaaliya.com/portfolio/
How do I know she is? Goggle her escort name (Noa Aliya) and you'll find old article interviews of her in Dutch with pictures where it looks obvious she is trans, and the interviewer even questioned if she is trans due to her deep voice and weird body. A few weeks ago I contacted her, but the way she responded to me triggered my trans alert radar (LOL). A google search quickly made me cease contact with her.
This is why I mentioned the risk of post-ops here. We got to be careful because the post op ones really don't think it's a big deal (they're delusional). It's up to us to protect ourselves. Adams apples, super deep voices, huge man hands, I reject the session. Stay safe out there gentlemen.
Only halfway through the year but these 5 are going to be hard to beat.
1) Ana Luz - https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/ana-luz - Her look might not be for everyone, but she's easily in my top 2 all time in Lisbon.
2) Isadora Sousa - https://portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhante-isadora-sousa - she got an awful review on the local board but I've seen her several times and she keeps getting better.
3) Livia - https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/livia-960145394 - Only seen her once (so far) but it was very memorable and I will repeat in a few days. Stunning, sweet lady.
4) Rita Silva - https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/rita-silva - Isn't always available in Lisbon but worth seeing if she's around.
5) Alina Alvares - https://escortprivada.com/escort/alina-alvares/ - seen her more times than I can remember. Probably the best EP girl who works regularly.
I've reviewed all of these ladies in previous posts. They all look completely different but deliver a superb GFE. All speak very good English.
I've stopped seeing anyone from Escort Privada as the new girls this year have mostly been average or duds (aside from Alina) and it isn't worth the money when so many independents charge 150/ HR or less for an incall. Saldanha is easy enough to get to from anywhere in the city.
CanuckGuy85
07-03-25, 22:42
Only halfway through the year but these 5 are going to be hard to beat.
1) Ana Luz - https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/ana-luz - Her look might not be for everyone, but she's easily in my top 2 all time in Lisbon.
2) Isadora Sousa - https://portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhante-isadora-sousa - she got an awful review on the local board but I've seen her several times and she keeps getting better.
3) Livia - https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/livia-960145394 - Only seen her once (so far) but it was very memorable and I will repeat in a few days. Stunning, sweet lady.
4) Rita Silva - https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/rita-silva - Isn't always available in Lisbon but worth seeing if she's around.
5) Alina Alvares - https://escortprivada.com/escort/alina-alvares/ - seen her more times than I can remember. Probably the best EP girl who works regularly.
I've reviewed all of these ladies in previous posts. They all look completely different but deliver a superb GFE. All speak very good English.
I've stopped seeing anyone from Escort Privada as the new girls this year have mostly been average or duds (aside from Alina) and it isn't worth the money when so many independents charge 150/ HR or less for an incall. Saldanha is easy enough to get to from anywhere in the city.Thanks for the info and reviews I'll be in Lisbon again this winter most likely in December and I've been keeping an eye on this forum and your info and reviews are a big help. Looks like I'm definitely going to try and see Alina Alvares this time if she is still around along with Viviane Miler who has become my go to regular from EP especially since Estella Nunes and Eva Mello are no longer around.
Who would you recommend from EP when it comes to Portuguese girls in their early to late 20's? I have my eyes on Alice Costa and Bela Vaz who has some good reviews here and the local forum as well as Diana Abreu but I can't find any info on her. Of course things could change and half of EP's roster could be different by this winter but who would you currently recommend for now?
Thanks for the info and reviews I'll be in Lisbon again this winter most likely in December and I've been keeping an eye on this forum and your info and reviews are a big help. Looks like I'm definitely going to try and see Alina Alvares this time if she is still around along with Viviane Miler who has become my go to regular from EP especially since Estella Nunes and Eva Mello are no longer around.
Who would you recommend from EP when it comes to Portuguese girls in their early to late 20's? I have my eyes on Alice Costa and Bela Vaz who has some good reviews here and the local forum as well as Diana Abreu but I can't find any info on her. Of course things could change and half of EP's roster could be different by this winter but who would you currently recommend for now?Probably Gabriella Fontes. She has a more Eastern European look and very nice body. Alice is pretty and very pleasant but her tits are quite saggy already and her braces prevent her from delivering a good BJ. No idea about Diana but generally if a girl has been around for a while and there's no reviews then she probably isn't good.
CanuckGuy85
07-04-25, 02:21
Probably Gabriella Fontes. She has a more Eastern European look and very nice body. Alice is pretty and very pleasant but her tits are quite saggy already and her braces prevent her from delivering a good BJ. No idea about Diana but generally if a girl has been around for a while and there's no reviews then she probably isn't good.Thanks for the reply, yes I remember you gave a good review of Gabriela Fontes and she has some good reviews on the local board as well I'll keep her in mind if she's still around when I'm there this winter although personally I prefer Brazilian and Portuguese women when I'm in Portugal but we'll see.
Speaking of Portuguese girls Mariana Sampaio and Lara Vilar, who are newish girls this year, got positive reviews on the local forum. Meanwhile someone reviewed the Ariel Silva and Mariel Ines duo recently, and commented Ariel was more into the threesome than Mariel, who was more mechanical and distant. He give Ariel a 7, while Mariel got 4. Links to the girls:
Mariana Sampaio:https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mariana-sampaio-7595
Lara Vilar:https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-vilar-8993
Ariel Silva and Mariel Ines: https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ariel-silva-e-maria-ines-8943
Aristhotle
07-05-25, 07:36
In Mulheres VIP there is an ad of two very pretty black girls offering a duo giving each other a kiss. Is this what I have been looking for?
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/pamela-e-alexa
Is MulheresVIP real and reliable? There aren't scams on it? Because people here have only talked about Apartado X. Is this page legit? Or king of bait and switch robberies?
Aristhotle
07-05-25, 08:08
In Mulheres VIP there is an ad of two very pretty black girls offering a duo giving each other a kiss. Is this what I have been looking for?
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/pamela-e-alexa
Is MulheresVIP real and reliable? There aren't scams on it? Because people here have only talked about Apartado X. Is this page legit? Or king of bait and switch robberies?Weird. I search one of the girls (Pamela), it shows her solo with a phone similar but not equal to the duo ad. And both numbers show the same girl (albeit different pictures of her) on her WhatsApp profile. Is this a robbery setup? Will following this ad lead me to an apartment where some guy will stick me up for money? Or a scam occurs?
Weird. I search one of the girls (Pamela), it shows her solo with a phone similar but not equal to the duo ad. And both numbers show the same girl (albeit different pictures of her) on her WhatsApp profile. Is this a robbery setup? Will following this ad lead me to an apartment where some guy will stick me up for money? Or a scam occurs?I just posted a top 5 where 3 of the ladies are independents with profiles on Mulheres. I would stick to the profiles with verified photos and where you can see the girl's face. I've heard many stories of escorts stealing from clients (especially girls at Escort Privada) so obviously don't show up to an incall with anything you can't afford to lose, and if you have an outcall don't leave valuables lying around.
I'm a regular of 4 escorts that I see on an incall basis and I won't accept a glass of water from them. If I see a new girl, I always ask if there is anyone else in the apartment and check their reaction. It's easy to spot if someone's lying.
I'm a regular of 4 escorts that I see on an incall basis and I won't accept a glass of water from them. If I see a new girl, I always ask if there is anyone else in the apartment and check their reaction. It's easy to spot if someone's lying.I obviously can't make the experience of being a foreigner in Lisbon. But, even if bad things can happen everywhere, I never had any feeling of insecurity or of being threatened while going about this marvellous sport.
No matter what some people say: Portugal is one of the safest places in the world.
Mongerer88
07-05-25, 20:29
I obviously can't make the experience of being a foreigner in Lisbon. But, even if bad things can happen everywhere, I never had any feeling of insecurity or of being threatened while going about this marvellous sport.
No matter what some people say: Portugal is one of the safest places in the world.I have never had a bad safety experience or read about anyone having one on a review board in the last decade for Portugal.
For the independents and EP ladies I have seen before using outcall, I don't take any precautions. The first time I see a lady, I lock valuables in the hotel safe deposit box for outcall, and for incall I just go into the bathroom that has the shower fully clothed wearing my backpack. The lady never seems insulted. But once I know the lady, I don't bother with that.
Never heard of a strong arm robbery like a pimp in the room in Western Europe. Most of that stuff is 8 pm low-budget TV crime porn shows.
Never heard anybody complain about escorts in Lisbon stealing stuff, at least on ISG.
Wow, that does surprise me. I would have been surprised even if you said you'd heard a few stories of EscortPrivada ladies stealing from clients, but 'many' stories has pricked my ears up.
I'm always careful anyway with valuables, and my eyes are on the lady for the entire time she is in my hotel room. I've never felt that any of the EP ladies I've seen might be untrustworthy, although anyone can act like a saint temporarily!
Even when I've left the cash for the meeting on a table, only one lady has ever picked it up without asking me. In other instances, I've had to pick it up myself. I shall however be even more careful now, if that's possible!
I've heard many stories of escorts stealing from clients (especially girls at Escort Privada) so obviously don't show up to an incall with anything you can't afford to lose, and if you have an outcall don't leave valuables lying around.
Wow, that does surprise me. I would have been surprised even if you said you'd heard a few stories of EscortPrivada ladies stealing from clients, but 'many' stories has pricked my ears up.
I'm always careful anyway with valuables, and my eyes are on the lady for the entire time she is in my hotel room. I've never felt that any of the EP ladies I've seen might be untrustworthy, although anyone can act like a saint temporarily!
Even when I've left the cash for the meeting on a table, only one lady has ever picked it up without asking me. In other instances, I've had to pick it up myself. I shall however be even more careful now, if that's possible!It's basically girls spreading rumours about other girls. I can't verify anything. From what I understood, some clients are very sloppy with leaving cash, drugs and valuables exposed, or fell asleep during the booking. I do recall hearing of one lady being fired for stealing from a sleeping client on an overnight. A lot of nonsense seems more likely to happen in group bookings where there are more people, time and variables.
Most of the EP girls I've met have displayed good manners. What we see in forums represents a pretty small percentage of the overall scene. As Kama Leao said, this place is safer than most.
Aristhotle
07-06-25, 02:06
I just posted a top 5 where 3 of the ladies are independents with profiles on Mulheres. I would stick to the profiles with verified photos and where you can see the girl's face. I've heard many stories of escorts stealing from clients (especially girls at Escort Privada) so obviously don't show up to an incall with anything you can't afford to lose, and if you have an outcall don't leave valuables lying around.
I'm a regular of 4 escorts that I see on an incall basis and I won't accept a glass of water from them. If I see a new girl, I always ask if there is anyone else in the apartment and check their reaction. It's easy to spot if someone's lying.Thing is last week while browsing a Portuguese gp review forum, I read of a scam of someone putting an ad for two black girls who offer a lesbian show / duo and everything where in reality you go to the apartment and you essentially get robbed by thieves. I can't find that thread again unfortunately.
And now I run into this ad that I'm very interested in with two beautiful black girls kissing (Pamela and Alexa) offering a duo.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/pamela-e-alexa
I found both girls individual ads though. Both girls phone numbers are different from the duo ad one. That's weird. Here is Pamela's ad which is on MulheresVIP:
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/pamela
And here is Alexa's ad which is on Portal Privado:
https://portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhante-alexa-betencourt
Thing is each ad has a different phone number. How? And the duo number has an old fishy picture of Pamela on it. Almost looks fake. I mean. I'm just trying to be safe here.
Might my best bet be contacting each of the girls individually, asking for duos, and seeing them in an outside hotel? If so, anyone know any hotels for threesomes that are safe?
Yes, some of it may just be ladies wanting to spread rumours so as to get more business themselves. The bottom line however is we don't know these girls, and we are talking about the escorting world as opposed to nursing for example.
Overnights are not my cup of tea as I don't want to be spending that much time with the lady, but they are indeed a different ballgame in so many respects.
Thanks for bringing it up. It reminds us all to be extra careful.
It's basically girls spreading rumours about other girls. I can't verify anything. From what I understood, some clients are very sloppy with leaving cash, drugs and valuables exposed, or fell asleep during the booking. I do recall hearing of one lady being fired for stealing from a sleeping client on an overnight. A lot of nonsense seems more likely to happen in group bookings where there are more people, time and variables.
Most of the EP girls I've met have displayed good manners. What we see in forums represents a pretty small percentage of the overall scene. As Kama Leao said, this place is safer than most.
I read of a scam of someone putting an ad for two black girls who offer a lesbian show / duo and everything where in reality you go to the apartment and you essentially get robbed by thieves. Once again: no place anywhere is 200% safe. That obviously can happen -and you can also be asked to make a money transfer even before being given the lady's address. But it's much more likely to be charged an absurd price for a meal in a restaurant. Which BTW is highly unlikely.
Sorry folks, it's another dud of a review. Looking for a young fitness bunny type, I contacted Lays / Lya via whatsapp and arranged for a 2 hour incall in the Arroios area, which I haven't been to before.
Unfortunately, the area is pretty grubby and full of immigrants. Not quite as bad as Martim Moniz and I wasn't there to take the census, but it wasn't a great start.
First major red flag was Lya opening the door with the lights off in the hallway of the apartment, so I couldn't see her properly. I was shown through to a bedroom at the far end of the hallway and when she closed the door behind us, a woman clearly in her mid 30's was standing in front of me. Definitely not the 21 advertised. I don't mind a few extra years but she's a generation older and pretty ugly. Her profile photos are probably deepfakes, as she looks nothing like them. No wonder the Apartadox profile hides her face.
At this point I said I wasn't happy and would like to leave, and she got rather angry about having her time wasted and blocked the door. I didn't want any problems so I made it clear that she didn't look at all like I expected her to and offered a small amount as a cancellation fee to keep the peace. I put the money down, moved past her and exited the bedroom. She didn't make a fuss but got on her phone.
When I opened the door to the apartment, two Indian / Bangladeshi guys were standing right outside, as if they were listening in. I had seen them outside the building earlier when I was waiting to be let in, and they had gone in before me. I have no idea if she had just messaged them but assumed they were pimps / security. Admittedly, I got annoyed and told them to get out of my way.
I'll chalk this one down to the summer market bringing a lot of lower quality escorts to the city but it's a reminder to never ignore red flags. Unreviewed ladies are always a risk and the little comment style reviews on the Mulheres site are often fake. It's also a potential red flag when a girl is operating under multiple names. If she opens the door and you can't see her, ask her to put the light on or walk.
https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/lays-f0ZQ
https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-lya-araujo-8514
I have never had a bad safety experience or read about anyone having one on a review board in the last decade for Portugal.
For the independents and EP ladies I have seen before using outcall, I don't take any precautions. The first time I see a lady, I lock valuables in the hotel safe deposit box for outcall, and for incall I just go into the bathroom that has the shower fully clothed wearing my backpack. The lady never seems insulted. But once I know the lady, I don't bother with that.
Never heard of a strong arm robbery like a pimp in the room in Western Europe. Most of that stuff is 8 pm low-budget TV crime porn shows.I agree with you. Everything I mentioned is hearsay from pillow talk with escorts so in hindsight I overstated it as it's rumoured, not factual. The only time an alleged theft occurred and was more or less confirmed was Tita Ipanema from EP, who was allegedly fired for stealing from an overnight client who fell asleep early into the booking. I mentioned this back in 2023 - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2799698&viewfull=1#post2799698 in response to a post by ExExpatriate about her popping up on another site.
Again that one is hearsay but I say 'more or less confirmed' as I remember her disappearing from the site just before I heard the story from another escort who had no reason to bring it up other than it was the hot gossip for that week.
Anyway, that's one story among thousands of reviews, so statistically unimportant. As you said, be cautious on the first encounter.
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