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NetViking 2008
08-25-10, 16:59
Hello everybody,
I will come in Moscow in September, I will stay in Cosmos hotel as usual, the different thing from the past is that now I have a girlfriend there but she don't have visa. How can I do to bring her in the room?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Damn Piz, that could be a loooong time!!!!!
I mean it. I will never go there, as long as the same shitty management is in place. Maybe it's because I was recently in other cities which had well-managed wh0re bars, but Hot Dog is a fucking joke, and I hate all the people who work there from the bitchy cashier to the goons at the door to the barmen who ignore you to the uppity kalyanchik. They can rot in hell for all I care.
...They can rot in hell for all I care.
Hey Pizdyets they really made you angry....but for what exactly ?
What I never understood is that from 5-6 year ago, when more or less hungry duck closed, the only 2 pick up bar in Moscow are only NF and Hot Dog.
How can be possible in such a big city only 2 pick up bars ?
Ok tochka, privat apartment and so on, but I mean, according to Prosal reports, even a much smaller city as Tashkent has much more pick up bars.
Now with Hot Dog shitty, NF with crazy prices, no one decent pick up bar in all Moscow, right or am I missing something guys ?
AColonizer
08-26-10, 00:31
You are right, indeed.
I don't want to underline that, now forumers write a similar opinion to mine when I have been to Moscow last year (for the first time)... But main questions remain:
- are there any modern "facilities" for meeting and sex in Moscow? Soviet-style brothels and roads at night are not good "facilities" for the modern economy;
- high prices for what? Is it possible customers pay high prices for something next to zero? Even in a bigot country like Italy, customers can find some beautiful and piggish Slavics for cheap prices.
In my opinion, Moscow is a excellent city for work and to create Russian friendships. The best way for a normal fuck is to meet people in their regular life, not models but that is free. All the rest is a waste of money: happy days have gone a lot of years ago.
Hey Pizdyets they really made you angry....but for what exactly ?
What I never understood is that from 5-6 year ago, when more or less hungry duck closed, the only 2 pick up bar in Moscow are only NF and Hot Dog.
How can be possible in such a big city only 2 pick up bars ?
Ok tochka, privat apartment and so on, but I mean, according to Prosal reports, even a much smaller city as Tashkent has much more pick up bars.
Now with Hot Dog shitty, NF with crazy prices, no one decent pick up bar in all Moscow, right or am I missing something guys ?
Stravinsky
08-26-10, 06:31
Now with Hot Dog shitty, NF with crazy prices, no one decent pick up bar in all Moscow, right or am I missing something guys ?Luka,
The answer is, it depends...
If you are a tourist, in Moscow for a week on business, don't speak any Russian, can't find your way around and don't understand Russian culture, there really isn't much opportunity for sex, paid or otherwise. The heady days of the end of the Soviet Union are long gone. The dyeffki are not going to follow you home any more with nothing more than a promise of a new pair of Adidas, or Levi's.
On the other hand, if you speak a little Russian (enough to have a basic conversation) can make your way around the city and understand something of Russian culture, then Moscow remains a galaxy of sexual possibilities, paid and otherwise.
Luka,
The answer is, it depends...
Sorry, I meant, a pick up bar, with hookers !
A third place like Hot Dog and Night Flight are, like it was hungry duck, when in 2004 I got my first pro in my first travel to Moscow.
I am sure there are many normal discos with normal girls, that's obvious in such a big city, I really meant prostitutes go or to HD or to NF ?
Stravinsky
08-26-10, 16:40
Sorry, I meant, a pick up bar, with hookers !I know, so did I. :) And in 2004, you could take a gorgeous babe out of Night Flight for 200-300 USD.
Hot Dog's and Night Flight are still there, but the experience has deteriorated to the point where you'd be better off in Vegas, than Moscow.
There are places like Aurora 911 and Penthouse Club, where you can pick up a beautiful Russian girl for on-premises sex, if you can afford it. Again, if you're a tourist and it's your only time in Moscow, then it's no big deal. There are plenty of clubs in Moscow where you can have the same experience for less, but if you don't speak Russian, you probably won't get past the front door.
I'm afraid Moscow is simply no longer a mongering destination. There are too many other places in the world where it's much easier to find women who are (almost) as beautiful, for prices that are a lot less, without the hassles of language and culture.
I know, so did I. :) ..
So sorry Stravvie :)
...I'm afraid Moscow is simply no longer a mongering destination...
And probably will never be again....
Actually I'd go back again to Moscow as 2-3 days stop going to some other cities, but more for the fact the city really fascinates me together the fun of get a tochka, than for its night life ( obviously from my point of view... ).
...There are too many other places in the world where it's much easier to find women who are (almost) as beautiful, for prices that are a lot less, without the hassles of language and culture.
Even if she was not an unbelievable GFE but I got a girl from Tver in Cola in Augsburg last sunday, it was funny to practice my russian again ( you should see how she reacted with open eyes when I start to speak russian :D ) and to speak about Tver, cause I was there in 2008 and.... 50 euro 30 minutes DFK, DATY and BBBJ..... for one travelling on his expenses is not bad....
I'm afraid Moscow is simply no longer a mongering destination. There are too many other places in the world where it's much easier to find women who are (almost) as beautiful, for prices that are a lot less, without the hassles of language and culture. Sadly Strav, that about sums it up. You can still get a girl (and damn fine good looking one a that) for a better price than in NYC, Dallas, or London but as a mongering destination it's just........ not. Anymore. There are far too many other places to go to spend your money on elicit vices that are easier on the wallet. Doesn't mean I will stop coming to Moscow though!!!!!!! But I may follow Pizdyets lead and join the picket line against "The Dog".
Stravinsky
08-26-10, 17:08
Actually I'd go back again to Moscow as 2-3 days stop going to some other cities, but more for the fact the city really fascinates meTrue, Moscow is one of the most beautiful, fascinating and exciting cities in the world.
Even if she was not an unbelievable GFE but I got a girl from Tver in Cola in Augsburg last sunday, it was funny to practice my russian again ( you should see how she reacted with open eyes when I start to speak russian :D )Yes, that's another strategy. It seems the FKK clubs in Germany and Austria have plenty of eastern European girls, including Russians and Ukrainians (if you can handle sex in 1/2 hour increments). No visa hassles, no need to register yourself, just pick up your passport and go. You can keep the Romanian girls though, they're not for me. I've had enough of them to last me a lifetime.
Now Russian women on the other hand... ;)
Stravinsky
08-26-10, 17:13
But I may follow Pizdyets lead and join the picket line against "The Dog".Mongera vsyekh strahn... so-ye-din-yai-et-syess! (Mongers of the world, unite!)
Is Monger feminine or masculine? I'll bet Pizdyets knows... :)
Mongera vsyekh strahn... so-ye-din-yai-et-syess! (Mongers of the world, unite!)
Is Monger feminine or masculine? I'll bet Pizdyets knows... :)
Nah, I don't know the Russian word for monger. But it'd have to be masculine, right? And in that case, the nominative plural would be монгеры (mongery), which IMO has a nice ring to it.
I concur with everyone that Moscow is far too big of a city to have just 2 wh0re bars, but that's a fact. I do occasionally run into wh0res in pubs, bars and clubs, but they're not strictly loaded with just wh0res. Who do I blame? The police. They want their cut, and it's in turn passed along to guys like you and me. Which is why it's more economical to deal with freelancers who don't have to pay a cut to "the man" (ie mamba, intimcity, rusdosug, etc). Still it's not my standard MO (I like to chat up a girl and test the waters before choosing).
Stravinsky
08-30-10, 05:33
I read in the reports on sextalk.ru that apparently Fantasys has returned to its old digs on Kozitskii pereulok, now that the new remont is finished. That's the same location it used to be in, across Tverskaya from Night Flight.
Can anyone confirm this?
Arrived back in Moscow on Sunday and went to NightFlight with the sole intention (honestly) of paying for the golf tournament on Friday. However decided to stay for one beer!
It is very quiet on a Sunday, approx 20 ladies and maybe 5 potential clients. So naturally the few ladies there were very attentive. Stood at the bar, ordered my beer and noticed a lot of eye contact, pursed lips and pushed up boobs. To be honest I was not interested having entertained one of my Omen chicks in the afternoon.
A few minutes later a very attractive, dark hared girl came to stand next to me. She started with the normal questions; what is your name? Where are you from etc. She was lovely but I just was not interested. Then came the great question; is this your first visit to NightFlight? I love this one! I asked her how old are you, after a little hesitation, she said 29(probably correct), I then replied – “you were about 14 when I first came here. Rather than looking shocked, she laughed.
I told here that I was only in for a beer, I would be happy to talk to her, but if she needed a customer she should look elsewhere. It was a very quiet night so we started talking. A friend came in, also just for a beer, and joined the conversation. I bought her a drink, then another. The conversation was light and most enjoyable.
It was getting late for a Sunday and I said that I was leaving. She looked sad and asked if she could come with me. I replied that it would not be a commercial visit, her reply – “I want sex tonight”.
To cut a long story short, we went back to the apartment, had some tea and then great sex. Kissing, BBBJ, DATY in fact almost everything. It was a superb experience. She left at about 04:00, without any mention of money, however as I had enjoyed her so much I did place a small contribution in her purse. She called me later to say thank you and to assure me that she wanted some fun and not necessarily for payment.
Lately I have been very disappointed with the NF ladies, hard bargains and generally hurried, poor sex. This was a great surprise and a reminder that NF lives and supports the community! I will not give the name or description of the lady for obvious reasons!
NF has been a part of my life for a very long time. Many years ago the evenings there would be great fund and even then freebies, whilst very rare, were possible. I did not expect this in 2010.
BTW are any other members playing in the NF golf tournament on Friday?
I read in the reports on sextalk.ru that apparently Fantasys has returned to its old digs on Kozitskii pereulok, now that the new remont is finished. That's the same location it used to be in, across Tverskaya from Night Flight.
Can anyone confirm this?
Haven't been, but that's what I understand. The location on Pokrovka is now called "Atell".
NF has been a part of my life for a very long time. Many years ago the evenings there would be great fund and even then freebies, whilst very rare, were possible. I did not expect this in 2010.
BTW are any other members playing in the NF golf tournament on Friday?
Good to hear. Slim odds but I suppose anything is possible. Well done.
Gentleman Travel
08-31-10, 15:18
I had a chance to visit Petrovich a couple of years ago, maybe 3, mid-week. A Muscovite friend of mine turned me on to it and I remember it being just as you described. Funny how the icons of the old Soviet Union have now become chic.
It is a private club, but they don't get serious about facing people until later in the evening, maybe 21:00, something like that. So, our strategy was to enter early at 19:00 for dinner and then just linger on into the evening. It seems you can stay as long as you like once you are in. Nobody threw us out anyway.
Just came across the posts about this interesting venue.
Strav, are you saying that if you go for dinner early enough you can dodge the membership requirement and face control? Or do you still need a membership?
Any idea what membership costs? The web-site only talks about having to fill out an application and get nominations from existing members.
Stravinsky
08-31-10, 18:49
GT,
Yes, when I was there, maybe 3 or 4 years ago, it did seem to be possible to dodge the entry requirement by arriving early. I think we arrived around 19:00, maybe a little later. But, then, one of the girls in our group claimed to be a friend of the manager. Maybe she was, maybe not: maybe it helped, maybe it didn't, who knows.
Don't know what a membership costs, but I doubt if it's very expensive. The club is mainly for people who still remember Sovyetskom Soyuz, the memorabilia and memory of which has now, apparently, become chic.
Vigilantemoscow
08-31-10, 19:16
Dear all
I believe this subject has been touched upon in the past but I thought due to recent experiences the "debate" could be opened again.
Sure, we talk long and hard about the high density of pretty, young, intelligent, flirticious girls available in Moscow but perhaps the true gems, the most profitable market segment of the population is those (many divorced, other simply missed the boat and never married) mature Russian women in their mid-late thirties till mid 40s.
By no means I am suggesting I don't like 22 years old bimbos or that I will stop chasing them but what is true is that I am becoming increasingly tired of the energy, money and time it takes to achieve the only purpose of fornication. Unavoidably, these smart young girls since they increasingly holiday/work in Europe, use dating sites etc understand nowadays the value of their bodies in the global fuck market and they want you to work on it. And there is competition (there is a good bunch of Russian guys with quite a bit of cash who play at home and have something to say as well). On the other hand, miriads of Russian milfs see the propect of having sex with a foreigner the most exciting thing ever happen to them in the last decade and an unforgettable experience. Much less competition.
Chronology of events of a recent perfect first date evening with an internet mum to give an example:
7:00pm: Meeting at a central Moscow square, where she attended with extreme puntuality (take note younger girls) although bringing also along a female friend colleague due to a misuderstanding with one of my previous online jokes. No problem, friend pulls away and leaves us alone. She: late 30s (allegedlly) with older face looking than in the pictures but with what it seems after a quick glance to be a decent sporty body similar to what I expected from the pictures. After a brief walk I proposed to have tea at my place since it is just around the corner. She accepts!
7:30pm: Up in the flat, tea for two and chit chat continues. This time I bring the subject of fantasies and virtual sex. Surprise surprise, she claims to prefer real sex. Tea is finished so I proposed this time to give her a back massage. She accepts!
7:45pm: Upper clothes off, then trousers off, arse is actually not bad at all, well I think I should go for it! After 10 mins of massage my friend turns to be a multi-orgasmic, fist-fucking addict who caressed, kissed, massaged, wanked, worshipped, licked my mini-me and eventually sucked (in two long rounds) every single sperm drop in my body with remarkable passion and skill. Wooohuuu!
9:15pm: Post coital shower and tea (not a drop of alcohol involved, which also greatly pleases my liver)
9:30pm: I show the way out the building, no need to even accompany her to the tube station she knows her way (great, I don't feel like dressing up!). Poka.
Project summary: Completed in exactly 2h and 30 mins. Financial damage 0 Rubles. 0 damage to health. And a the rest of the evening free for other matters.
I acknowledge I had to put several hours of online effort the previous week to find my victim but don't you think these older ladies offer a way of expediting sexual needs in an uncomplicated way which is largely underrated?. Aren't the laws of fuck market largely distorted against them.
Someone might say this can be beaten by a free fuck in NF but I simply believe there are not the same probabilities of both events to ocurr
Gentleman Travel
08-31-10, 19:45
I believe this subject has been touched upon in the past but I thought due to recent experiences the "debate" could be opened again.
Sure, we talk long and hard about the high density of pretty, young, intelligent, flirticious girls available in Moscow but perhaps the true gems, the most profitable market segment of the population is those (many divorced, other simply missed the boat and never married) mature Russian women in their mid-late thirties till mid 40s.
...but don't you think these older ladies offer a way of expediting sexual needs in an uncomplicated way which is largely underrated?. Aren't the laws of fuck market largely distorted against them.
Someone might say this can be beaten by a free fuck in NF but I simply believe there are not the same probabilities of both events to ocurr
I agree absolutely!
Last trip I had to EE I had a date with a 35 (probably) year old MILF.
Good looking, great rack, easy to meet and talk to.
Met her at 23:00 at my hotel, gave her one drink in the lobby.
Up to my room for gymnastics and playing with her glorious globes.
Departs at 1:00 am THANKING ME for the sex - it had been a while for her.
No money changed hands, although there was some vague talk about doing a mini-vacation together sometime - a thing I would love to do.
Of course I would rather have the same experience with a 25 year old model.
But that will require serious coin, which is okay, but a willing freebie is a different experience.
So for a 50+ guy like me, this was a great experience and I think a good market.
I am not sure what they are really after - is it raw sex?
The prospect of meeting someone to rescue them from growing old in Russia?
I am inclined to think they simply want to recapture the experience of their youth
- some romance and the feeling of being desired sexually.
I notice in your story how the woman's cock-blocking buddy goes away -
she knows that her friend wants the story to have a happy ending!
Dear all
I believe this subject has been touched upon in the past but I thought due to recent experiences the "debate" could be opened again.
Sure, we talk long and hard about the high density of pretty, young, intelligent, flirticious girls available in Moscow but perhaps the true gems, the most profitable market segment of the population is those (many divorced, other simply missed the boat and never married) mature Russian women in their mid-late thirties till mid 40s.
By no means I am suggesting I don't like 22 years old bimbos or that I will stop chasing them but what is true is that I am becoming increasingly tired of the energy, money and time it takes to achieve the only purpose of fornication. Unavoidably, these smart young girls since they increasingly holiday/work in Europe, use dating sites etc understand nowadays the value of their bodies in the global fuck market and they want you to work on it. And there is competition (there is a good bunch of Russian guys with quite a bit of cash who play at home and have something to say as well). On the other hand, miriads of Russian milfs see the propect of having sex with a foreigner the most exciting thing ever happen to them in the last decade and an unforgettable experience. Much less competition.
Chronology of events of a recent perfect first date evening with an internet mum to give an example:
7:00pm: Meeting at a central Moscow square, where she attended with extreme puntuality (take note younger girls) although bringing also along a female friend colleague due to a misuderstanding with one of my previous online jokes. No problem, friend pulls away and leaves us alone. She: late 30s (allegedlly) with older face looking than in the pictures but with what it seems after a quick glance to be a decent sporty body similar to what I expected from the pictures. After a brief walk I proposed to have tea at my place since it is just around the corner. She accepts!
7:30pm: Up in the flat, tea for two and chit chat continues. This time I bring the subject of fantasies and virtual sex. Surprise surprise, she claims to prefer real sex. Tea is finished so I proposed this time to give her a back massage. She accepts!
7:45pm: Upper clothes off, then trousers off, arse is actually not bad at all, well I think I should go for it! After 10 mins of massage my friend turns to be a multi-orgasmic, fist-fucking addict who caressed, kissed, massaged, wanked, worshipped, licked my mini-me and eventually sucked (in two long rounds) every single sperm drop in my body with remarkable passion and skill. Wooohuuu!
9:15pm: Post coital shower and tea (not a drop of alcohol involved, which also greatly pleases my liver)
9:30pm: I show the way out the building, no need to even accompany her to the tube station she knows her way (great, I don't feel like dressing up!). Poka.
Project summary: Completed in exactly 2h and 30 mins. Financial damage 0 Rubles. 0 damage to health. And a the rest of the evening free for other matters.
I acknowledge I had to put several hours of online effort the previous week to find my victim but don't you think these older ladies offer a way of expediting sexual needs in an uncomplicated way which is largely underrated?. Aren't the laws of fuck market largely distorted against them.
Someone might say this can be beaten by a free fuck in NF but I simply believe there are not the same probabilities of both events to ocurrI noticed this phenomenom during my one month in Moscow. It was very evident during my evening Metro rides. One of my reports bashed NF as a waste of time and money. Why pay a prostitute Western rates when you can get sexual and mental fun for free. I spend a few hours a day studying my basic Russian so I can tap this market when I return.
Excellent observation VigilanteMoscow. Moscow is so much more than some quickie.
Seeing as this is my 500th post to this forum, I thought it'd be fitting if it were also my last. I've been through a lot emotionally since I first set foot in Russia nearly a decade ago and especially in these past 3 years as an active ISG contributor. Many of the times have been great, others mediocre, some sad, funny, ridiculous, absurd or just... plain... Russian. But the time in my life has come to hang up my Pizdyets hat and look for another that better fits my present situation and frame-of-mind.
I hope that you guys enjoyed reading my wh0re-r tales as much as I enjoyed writing them. And that you benefited at least a bit from my advice. I've met some really extraordinary people via ISG: Doc, Jake, RM, Ppt, Irish Lad, Strav, Blacklisted, Guy du Monde, BubblyBoy, Bez, Shelbysbaker, and so many others. And it would not be an exaggeration to say that my life has been significantly enriched because of you.
All that said, I'm not going anywhere. I'll likely be here in Moscow for the next 10 years or more, so gimme a call or send an sms if you're planning on coming into town. I'd love to catch up over a beer and/or mojitos and/or kalyan.
Seeing as this is my 500th post to this forum, I thought it'd be fitting if it were also my last. I've been through a lot emotionally since I first set foot in Russia nearly a decade ago and especially in these past 3 years as an active ISG contributor. Many of the times have been great, others mediocre, some sad, funny, ridiculous, absurd or just. Plain. Russian. But the time in my life has come to hang up my Pizdyets hat and look for another that better fits my present situation and frame-of-mind.
I hope that you guys enjoyed reading my wh0re-r tales as much as I enjoyed writing them. And that you benefited at least a bit from my advice. I've met some really extraordinary people via ISG: Doc, Jake, RM, Ppt, Irish Lad, Strav, Blacklisted, Guy du Monde, BubblyBoy, Bez, Shelbysbaker, and so many others. And it would not be an exaggeration to say that my life has been significantly enriched because of you.
All that said, I'm not going anywhere. I'll likely be here in Moscow for the next 10 years or more, so give me a call or send an sms if you're planning on coming into town. I'd love to catch up over a beer and/or mojitos and/or kalyan.Sir, it is outstanding citizens such as yourself that have motivated a guy like me from MidWest America to get my ass out of my home town cock infested nightclubs to seek out these under utilized fillies in far away places.
Best of Luck
Seeing as this is my 500th post to this forum, I thought it'd be fitting if it were also my last. I've been through a lot emotionally since I first set foot in Russia nearly a decade ago and especially in these past 3 years as an active ISG contributor. Many of the times have been great, others mediocre, some sad, funny, ridiculous, absurd or just... plain... Russian.
Happy trails amigo.
Stravinsky
09-01-10, 06:36
Seeing as this is my 500th post to this forum, I thought it'd be fitting if it were also my last.Pizdyets,
Боже Мой! Who will correct me on my Russian??? :)
Seriously, we will miss you. As the knowledgeable man-on-the-ground in Moscow, you have kept us all honest.
всего вам доброго
Pizdyets,
Thanks for your input, it certainly helped me in my early days in Moscow (and still does).
Жизнь коротка́, а дел мно́го!
Seeing as this is my 500th post to this forum, I thought it'd be fitting if it were also my last. But the time in my life has come to hang up my Pizdyets hat and look for another that better fits my present situation and frame-of-mind.
I hope that you guys enjoyed reading my wh0re-r tales as much as I enjoyed writing them.
All that said, I'm not going anywhere. I'll likely be here in Moscow for the next 10 years or more, so gimme a call or send an sms if you're planning on coming into town. I'd love to catch up over a beer and/or mojitos and/or kalyan.
Pizdyets,
We've never met but this member has certainly enjoyed reading your regular and knowledgable reports.
Farewell and respect.
VG.
But maybe you'll continue reading if not writing?
Did not really find any information of interest about the Swiss Hotel Krasnye Holme. Is there any activity within its bars ? Any chance to find working girls inside the hotel or close t the hotel knowing that as I am with colleague I need to be discreet.
Thanks a lot in advance for your info
What happened to the senior members here ?
First....Ca_T, then Doctor Skank, now Pizdyets ?!?
The best contributors in one of the most fascinating city, after some time they feel the need to disappear... why ???
I think it happened only in this thread....
Soon are going to lose Bez too ? :D
AColonizer
09-03-10, 17:39
I know your emotional states and all of them take us to the same place: we need a quiet (and free) relationship, one only woman to live for, one only ass to fuck without negotiate ;)
Seeing as this is my 500th post to this forum, I thought it'd be fitting if it were also my last. I've been through a lot emotionally since I first set foot in Russia nearly a decade ago and especially in these past 3 years as an active ISG contributor. Many of the times have been great, others mediocre, some sad, funny, ridiculous, absurd or just... plain... Russian. But the time in my life has come to hang up my Pizdyets hat and look for another that better fits my present situation and frame-of-mind.
I hope that you guys enjoyed reading my wh0re-r tales as much as I enjoyed writing them. And that you benefited at least a bit from my advice. I've met some really extraordinary people via ISG: Doc, Jake, RM, Ppt, Irish Lad, Strav, Blacklisted, Guy du Monde, BubblyBoy, Bez, Shelbysbaker, and so many others. And it would not be an exaggeration to say that my life has been significantly enriched because of you.
All that said, I'm not going anywhere. I'll likely be here in Moscow for the next 10 years or more, so gimme a call or send an sms if you're planning on coming into town. I'd love to catch up over a beer and/or mojitos and/or kalyan.
Vigilantemoscow
09-03-10, 19:50
Been a few times at the cool bar on top of the hotel tower, there were some suspicious lonely hotties but I never made the move. In any case be prepared to fork quite a bit of money to start the conversation because the place is not cheap. Same for Kalina bar.
Did not really find any information of interest about the Swiss Hotel Krasnye Holme. Is there any activity within its bars ? Any chance to find working girls inside the hotel or close t the hotel knowing that as I am with colleague I need to be discreet.
Thanks a lot in advance for your info
Vigilantemoscow
09-05-10, 17:34
Good luck Pizdyets, I also admired your stories as much as my Henry Miller's youth readings!
I myself, after chasing pussy since 98 in a Russian province then in other places in the world and now back again in Russia, I am starting to feel conquered by a mixture of boredom and lack of purpose/motivation. It must be Autunn or.much that I might hate to say this since I have not hit 40 yet- I might be getting old and tired
Seeing as this is my 500th post to this forum, I thought it'd be fitting if it were also my last. I've been through a lot emotionally since I first set foot in Russia nearly a decade ago and especially in these past 3 years as an active ISG contributor. Many of the times have been great, others mediocre, some sad, funny, ridiculous, absurd or just. Plain. Russian. But the time in my life has come to hang up my Pizdyets hat and look for another that better fits my present situation and frame-of-mind.
I hope that you guys enjoyed reading my wh0re-r tales as much as I enjoyed writing them. And that you benefited at least a bit from my advice. I've met some really extraordinary people via ISG: Doc, Jake, RM, Ppt, Irish Lad, Strav, Blacklisted, Guy du Monde, BubblyBoy, Bez, Shelbysbaker, and so many others. And it would not be an exaggeration to say that my life has been significantly enriched because of you.
All that said, I'm not going anywhere. I'll likely be here in Moscow for the next 10 years or more, so give me a call or send an sms if you're planning on coming into town. I'd love to catch up over a beer and/or mojitos and/or kalyan.
Did not really find any information of interest about the Swiss Hotel Krasnye Holme. Is there any activity within its bars ? Any chance to find working girls inside the hotel or close t the hotel knowing that as I am with colleague I need to be discreet.
Thanks a lot in advance for your infoJim, Try an escort service. There are a few advertised on this site. Some members have had good service and some have had not such good service. Send me a PM and I'll give you some more details. Good luck.
Hi mongers!
This summer I had great fun mongering in Moscow.
First the devouchki in the streets, in the restaurants, cafés and clubs, are really beautiful, they do play the game and we watch them (I also like Peter and Cap d'Agde). Specially this summer (except the days with the smoke) when they had to dress with very light and short dresses, showing much of their body.
My experiences:
? Tochkas: very fun to spend a couple of hours going to the different tochkas with a good taxi driver. Problem is when it is dark you don't see so well and you can't spend too much time choosing. When I had enough of sightseeing, I did tip the mamasan and she gave me some indications on the girls. I had good sessions with them. Not cheap, damage 12000 p TLN + taxi, and as it was already late when arriving in my apartment, they stayed only 2 or 3 hours.
? Clubs: NF and HD, nice to spend time chatting with the girls. I did take my time to choose; sometimes I did not even picked up a girl, just offered 2 or 3 drinks. Sessions with Club's girls were good, they are very professional, but not in the bad way of it, they were ready to please me and they did like very much to take sexy attitude in front of me. Damage 12000 at NF, 10000 at HD. At HD, I find a girls who is willing to take me to a swing club. Does anybody know if it is worth it? I think I will go next time.
? Strip Clubs: AURORA. Great place. All those naked girls walking in front of you! Every hour or so, all the 50+ girls come on scene, you can seen them at once, they are all completely naked and attractive (some a little less, but average is really good), and then they all invite the customers for a short dance. I took in my arms a beautiful girl, I touched her body, her beautiful and firm buttocks for a (short) while and when she left I gave her (only) 200 p. Where else in the word can you see such a paradise? I saw in other places in Moscow several smaller strip clubs or gentlemen club, are they worth a visit?
? And my gold mine is MAMBA. I am an old man, and I am not so much interested in a stunning 19 years old blondika. All of them are only thinking of their beauty and I never had a good session with them. I am interested in 25 to 45 MILFs. And I found them (12 in 6 weeks). I did spend little time selecting the girls on mamba and I found next door women, not the top beauty, but still really good looking. Almost all of them had a normal job (one is a doctor, another one a sociologist and showed me her own internet site).organize the meeting was not always easy, as they had their job, their family (one told me "not tomorrow, I will be with my husband"), their kids, their datcha on week-ends. One of them came with her own car and her skills are not in finding my street and my dom. But all of them had sex with me like a girl friend who is only interested in pleasure, mine and her, and not like a GDP (at least they made me believe it). When they left, all of them gave me a FK, and told me they want to come back and not for the money (again, true or not, it is nice to believe it). And all that for 3000 to 6000 p. One even ask me if 5000 p was not too much (2 hours full service with passionate kisses!). And on top of that, they understand that I am only interested in seeing them once in a while. Where else can you find that?
FSU is really great.compared to other areas, I don't like so much east Asia as for me theses asian girls are not very attractive and what I could do with them was limited. I like south America, there are attractive girls, but not as much and as many as in the FSU (I was really disappointed not to see stunning beauties in Brazil, they might keep them for themselves), the GDP are more immature and I was not able to find those semi-pros. The non GDP that I found send me an email every other day until now, telling me she loves me and she dreams of me every night! I had very good times with her, I did only pay a few meals and taxis, but next time, I will call her only towards the end of my stay.
I wonder if it would it be interesting for me to go other places in the FSU? I am interested in Prosal experience and mostly in what kind of women he will meet.
Now I have been studying Russian for 3 years, I don't speak so well but I achieved what I wanted: to be able to have a good time with a girl that speaks only Russian. Now I would like to go further and meet more people and I am looking for anything (part time job, help business men,. Even charity), that would need me to come to Moscow 3/4 weeks 3/4 times a year, make me meet local people and keep me busy part time so that I can proceed mongering. I don't need to be paid, I can even pay for it. If it is decent, it would be great, it would be a good reason to tell to my relatives and my girlfriends home. Does anybody has an idea on what I could do?
Товарищи,
Can someone help me remember?
I swear I am losing my mind. Clearly, Jake's getting old.
A few months ago there was some discussion about a club that was identified as a good place to pick up girls. It's dance club and is supposed to be quite large.Not a strip club or a h@@ker bar like HD or BF but a DANCE club. What I do remember is that it's located near one of the metro stops south of the center. It seems that Tulskaya or Serpukhovskaya come to mind. I recall that it wasn't necessarily frequented by foreigners but that it was fairly open and foreigner friendly (if there is such a thing). But the two things that stand out in my memory was that it was BIG and is was located south of the center.
If this rings a bell with someone, please speak up and help me solve a mystery that's been driving me crazy. I'm planning to be in Moscow in October and am trying to get my ducks in a row.
I contacted Pizdyets directly about it and he can't seem to remember anything that fits the profile. Which is bad news because if he can't remember............ I could be imagining the whole thing!
Thanks in adavance guys.
Jake
Stravinsky
09-10-10, 20:22
Jake,
Seems to me I remember Passpartout mentioning a big dance club south of town where he had a lot of success picking up dyeffki. There was some discussion about it a while back. I don't remember the name right off hand, but you could look through Passpartout's (probably not the correct spelling) posts to find it.
That's all I can think of (and I take my Geritol regularly :) )
удачи вам
Passepartout
09-12-10, 00:56
Jack,
The club you mentioned is the Up and Down, located near the metro proletarskaya.
Please note that i haven't been there on the last 6 months, so i can't guarantee that it is still good....things move quickly in Moscow.
I've been today to Loutch restaurant....amazing big bar, classy, ine of the best decoration i have seen in Moskva, full of beautiful diev. Food is not too bad, but clearly not a place to eat, but more to be with your mate, drinking some cocktails at the bar, and trying to make contacts with all dievs who are waiting for that.
Adresse is pirogovskaya ulitsa 25, outside the savodoe calstio, in the south, bit worth the trip.
Minkione2010
09-14-10, 13:43
Can someone advise me in wich bar or specific place Izmailovo hotel complex I can found girls for maximum 2000-2500 rubl?
Thanks
Passepartout
09-14-10, 17:46
Of course i do not have an extensive knowledge of all countries, but i would rather say Spain.
Prague is not too expensive as well.
Stravinsky
09-15-10, 15:28
In your opinion what country or place is cheapest for sex in Europe?Define cheap.
By the time you take into account the total cost of sex in Europe, I think there is no cheap sex in Europe anymore. Even in tiny Moldova, the poorest country in Europe, sex is not cheap, after you add up all the costs involved.
If all you are looking for is cheap sex, then your best bet is Asia or Latin America, not Europe.
Vigilantemoscow
09-18-10, 10:51
Friday evening, the gf is on her way to her province to visit parents so I am on my own to perpetrate "crimes" this week end!. I got a flu and not feeling too well so I am browsing mamba trying to select my "pizza delivery" girl for the night but then I decide what the heck let's go out and try to grab a freebie. I tend to avoid foreign cock infested bars but I have never been to Real McCoy so I decided to tick the box and have a look for myself. I am walking down by the end of Tverskoy Bullvard and just in front on me a taxi stops and a lady comes out of it stumbling. She takes her heels off and starts walking with drunken baby steps. I quickly assess the situation, look around and decide to approach her and offer assistance in the form of a stable arm to guide her walking. She is blonde, shortly, heavy Russian makeup, well dressed but on the chubby side although she is revealing a phenomenal couple of white water melons. She is coming from her Institute party, her heels are killing her but home is not too far just around the corner and ooooh I am a foreigner she was twice on holiday abroad and she loves foreigners. Here I am in front of her flat door, am I really having a lucky day?. I shall wait outside, she has a friend inside (later I learnt it was her mother). So I wait a couple of minutes and when I thought I shall make a move to revert to my original Real McCoy plan she comes out of the flat with a smile in her face: "paidiom kushat! " (let's go eating!). Fuuuuck me. The closest restaurant she is pointing at is quite posh so there is no way in the world I will fork a meal (I would rather get a mamba girl, right?), I convince her instead to have a walk first (in my apartment's direction to guide her to my bedroom like a sheep to slaughter). To cut a long story short, chubby big titty doll gave me a hell of a walk since she was stumbling so badly that I was fearing she was going to break an ankle so the one mile walk became a nightmare of stops and restarts, heels on and off and to make things worst (by that time I already realised she was mentally fucked up) she kept repeating me the same stupid questions and alternated laughter, kissing and crying in equal an unpredictable measures. After a good 40 minutes of punishment and public embarrassment, finally we made to my flat. Halleluiah!. But that time and with the outdoor exposure flu was kicking in but I was very horny and I thought all in all her tits were worth the effort. How wrong was I. To start with she could barely move and was laying in the sofa, I was really fearing she damaged her ankle's ligaments and I would have to endure a "hospital scene" but I gave her pain killers and the pain someone stabilised. Then I proceed to tear down the mental challenge and defences: of course I will call her again, no I will not leave Moscow tomorrow, we could go out together etc. Cigarette, shower and finally there she is in the bed, ready for action. Melons playing, good oral and then when I am about to wear the "raincoat" surprise surprise, she does not like condoms!. Well baby, not in my book, I don't know you, you don't know me. "so why don't you do it, do you think I have "spid" (AIDS in Russian)". No of course not, you are nice decent girl it is just that. I don't want to have kids. Long Silence. She cries and cries and cries. "I can not have children, I can not have children!. I tried and tried for 10 years, doctors said I can not have children!. Fuck me, do I have a magneto in my face for the weird types?. Operation "mental healing" starts: cuddles, kisses, good wishes words etc. Let's have sex with condom ok?. After a few minutes of pumping she is warmed up and close to climax but then jumps out and takes the condom off to give me oral again. "Ia ne zhochu", Ia ne zhochu" and then attempts to jump on my dick to fuck without it!. No way! I said no, another day we do without condom ok but not today alright? OK. Back to square one, hand on drawer, let me get another condom, uhhhhmmm, nothing here, nothing there. Shit I don't have any condoms left!. More attempts to insert her bare pussy into my dick, more refusals, more arguments, more crying and laughter. In the middle of this mess, a strange feeling of satisfaction invades my thoughts. How lucky am I for not being a 28 years old Russian chubby girl. How lucky for not having to beg for sperm, how lucky for having more things in life than fulfilling motherhood. Yes, life sucks for her and I pity her. The session continued with more "petting" and oral but we left it since she insisted "that is not real sex" and got pissed off. Oh well, then the usual "operation return" starts. She still wants to eat but not in a million years I would take the drunken, small chubby big tittied sperm hunter doll with me after the nightmare I went through. I am feeling I'll, really really I'll, it is better if you go home and we meet again tomorrow alright?. I lent her my mobile so she calls home (forgot mobile and keys) and pushed her to a cab (150 rbls), more kisses, spokoini nochi. Little mistake to lend her my mobile since 15 mins later she kept calling me non stop so I switched the phone off and now will have to block her phone number.
A cheap night of sex for 150 Rubles or a lost Mamba opportunity for 8000?
Stravinsky
09-20-10, 15:42
VM,
Is it the Chinese who say, "If you save someone's life, then you are responsible for that life." ??? Sounds like you just had a practical lesson in that philosophy.
Great story, and typically Russian. I think I would stick with the Mamba girl for 8,000: better to pay more for something you will enjoy. Plus you won't have to worry about a drunken sperm hunter calling you at all hours. I think it is encouraging, however, that a Russian woman still longs for insemination the old fashioned way.
BTW - most modern keyboards have a RETURN key, sometimes also labeled as ENTER. If you press this key, it will create something called a paragraph. You might try it on your next post. Everyone will enjoy your writing more.
Passepartout
09-20-10, 20:09
nice report VM? we all recognize the great Moscow here, I mean everything is possible on this city, i like this more than everything else. Each nez night is a potential crazy night.
VM,
I think you lived something you can tell to all your friends and make them die for envy !
Nevermind you did not fuck here, as Passepartout wrote right, such things can happen only in Moscow !
From nothing... you can end, with just a bit of lucky, to have an unforgettable night....in Moscow !
That's why I love Moscow, cause there is a huge potencial to score girls just going out to have fun !
Actually I am addicted to German FKK, great and cheap sex, but I miss so much night as you had....
...BTW - most modern keyboards have a RETURN key, sometimes also labeled as ENTER. If you press this key, it will create something called a paragraph. You might try it on your next post. Everyone will enjoy your writing more.
LOOOL :D
Vigilantemoscow
09-20-10, 21:01
Stravinsky
I allowed myself the literary freedom of avoiding proper punctuation so I could evoke feelings of distress and anxiety for the outcome in the reader as I went through the events in that night. I fully accept the experiment is not welcome and take note for the next one then!
VM,
Is it the Chinese who say, "If you save someone's life, then you are responsible for that life. "? Sounds like you just had a practical lesson in that philosophy.
Great story, and typically Russian. I think I would stick with the Mamba girl for 8, 000: better to pay more for something you will enjoy. Plus you won't have to worry about a drunken sperm hunter calling you at all hours. I think it is encouraging, however, that a Russian woman still longs for insemination the old fashioned way.
BTW. Most modern keyboards have a RETURN key, sometimes also labeled as ENTER. If you press this key, it will create something called a paragraph. You might try it on your next post. Everyone will enjoy your writing more.
nice report VM? we all recognize the great Moscow here, I mean everything is possible on this city, i like this more than everything else. Each nez night is a potential crazy night. VM, Ditto on all that has been said so far. The truth is stranger than fiction.
Some jobs just require a professional. The amateur will cost you less, but the results may vary.
Udachi
I like your report VM. Would like to mention that in the freebie market the issue of devushkas not wanting to use condoms commonly arises. I have had my manhood challenged, accused of implying they are diseased, girls breaking down in tears so I would fuck them without a jacket.
First of all, I would like to say Hello, to all those members who have been contributing here for a long time. I started using ISG couple of weeks ago and decided to register today so that I could contribute my wealth of knowledge, especially after some veterans like Pyzdets have decided to call it quits.
I'm a native moscovite with an english education (4 years college and 3 university). I think I can provide some interesting information as I party nearly every weekend (thanks to my health which at 27 is still ok. And I have a vast network of friends which helps survive in this evil city))
Anyways, for my first post I would like to give my point of view on a few points that have been discussed here previously. I will try to write as much as possible:
1) Tochkas. Never really liked that whole driving in a taxi experience. Me and my friends used to get girls from tochkas a lot when we were 19 as we didn't have access to strip-clubs (girls in moscow prefer older gentlemen to younger guys as they think they all are dead-end perverts.))
Anyways, one of the reasons I don't like tochkas is because the girls that work there are mostly alcoholics or drug abusers. Plus the prices for a decent girl tend to be quite high 12000-15000 for a 7. If you get an 8+ for that money count yourself lucky.
I had a lot of bad experience taking girls from tochkas because the girls like to tell you depressing stories and in general most girls from tochkas are depressing and not fun to spend time with. Plus there's always a possibility that cops can stop you and demand a bribe for the girl because in 99% cases they don't have any ID on them
2) Clubs. Having lived for a long time in Berlin and London I have noticed that Moscow is all about the money. In a bad way. Sure. Money makes the world go round but say in Minsk (Belarussia) the girls in clubs are more interested in who you are and what you represent rather than what you have in your pocket, what watch you're wearing etc. I think that girls in Moscow clubs have got that old soviet mentality, that from all the cities in Russia, Moscow is the only place to go if you want to make a decent living. Hence 90% girls in Moscow clubs are gold diggers.
However, let's focus on the positives. Clubs are a good way to find a partner for the night. Usually these girls won't ask you for money if they decide to spend the night with you, but you will have to 'invest' in order to get her to come with you. By investing I mean buying her drinks. Which are not cheap at all, maybe a meal or in some cases cocaine.
If we're talking about places. Then I would recommend Krysha club. It's an afterparty club with hardcore FC but the best about this place is that all the strippers and hookers that didn't find any work go there at around 5 AM and the quality of these girls is very very high. But then again, there are some girls that will go with you for free, some for drinks, some for drugs and some not at all.
One valuable lesson that I've learned is that a lot of people are making the same mistake by trying to have sex on the first night. It is better to meet a girl in a club, chat with her, get her some drinks, then get her number and call her the next day. The chances of sex increase dramatically.
Other clubs for pick-ups include RAI (don't like it as it's full of young idiots with money who think they're really badass) and ofcourse SOHO. I hate SOHO a lot, because this place shows what Moscow is all about. All that fakeness comes out in this place. Expats like SOHO because there are a lot of beautiful girls but 99% of them are sukas, gold diggers and putanas that charge crazy prices. I would never recommend this place to a local or a friend of mine who is visiting Moscow.
3) Strip-clubs
In my point of view best place for picking someone up for sex or just a good time out.
There are a lot of strip-joints in Moscow but only few of them are up to standard.
My favorite is Dejavu (located close to old Metelitsa casino behind Ypiter photo shop on Noviy Arbat). A lot of members of IGS who work and live in Moscow might know this place as it used to be called Spearmint Rhino.
This place is not a brothel, but if the girl like you it's possible to take her home or partying with you. Most of the girls are 7s there, but there are couple of 8s and one 9. Plus what I like about this place is that every 15-25 min they do promotions when for 1000 rubles you get 3 dances instead of one.
I took a lot of different girls from that place, some of them wanted money (nothing much, like 5000), some just wanted to spend a good time with, and some offered to have sex there. Saying this I have to warn you, that sex on premises is only allowed if you know the manager. Who actually is a very cool guy.
Dejavu is very nicely designed, and was the only place in August where there was no smoke from the fires and its always cool there in terms of temperature.
If you have some extra money to spend and you're looking for a 9 than you have to go to Egoist Gold. I don't like this place because its very expensive (me and a friend had to pay 25000 to take a girl with us home; private dances cost there 3000 for 2 min of lazy dance), the girls there are rude and cocky, but they are so very beautiful that you forget about their disadvantages.
If you want to have straight sex, then you need to go to 911 which is situated close to Petrovka, where the Phantom casino was. There you can have sex on premises for 11000 rubles, but the girls there are mostly 7's with probably one 8.
Anyways, that's it for my first post, hope you have enjoyed it and it was helpful. Will try to post here regularly with valuable tips and advices.
Passepartout
09-23-10, 20:48
nice to see with us some native russians, thanks for the valuable post. i totally agree on soho..it sucks (in the bad meaning I mean...)
First of all, I would like to say Hello, to all those members who have been contributing here for a long time. I started using ISG couple of weeks ago and decided to register today so that I could contribute my wealth of knowledge, especially after some veterans like Pyzdets have decided to call it quits. Tribeta - Welcome to ISG. Glad to have another local to help with good information for those of us who drop in occasionally to Moscow. Excellent first post with good information. Keep it coming.
Udachi
Guys do any of you have or known a semi pro or a pro that is a gymnast (artistic or rhythmic) or a former gymnast? I have the desire to drill a gymnast girl so bad and if any of you have such girl in your contacts it would be much appreciated if you can share the contact information.
Thank you very much
First of all, I would like to say Hello, to all those members who have been contributing here for a long time. I started using ISG couple of weeks ago and decided to register today so that I could contribute my wealth of knowledge, especially after some veterans like Pyzdets have decided to call it quits.
I'm a native moscovite with an english education (4 years college and 3 university). I think I can provide some interesting information as I party nearly every weekend (thanks to my health which at 27 is still ok. And I have a vast network of friends which helps survive in this evil city))
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Very informative and realistic post, thank you. I think the prices you are talking are in Russian Rubles right? They are quite high indeed that is why I think a wise foreigner will try to learn as much Russian as he can and perhaps heads preferentially to the Russian provinces.
Very informative and realistic post, thank you. I think the prices you are talking are in Russian Rubles right? They are quite high indeed that is why I think a wise foreigner will try to learn as much Russian as he can and perhaps heads preferentially to the Russian provinces.Not sure about the provinces (embarrasing to say but I've never been anywhere in Russia apart from St. Petes) but the prices are in roubles (what else))
Funny thing, just returned from a Thursday night, which we in Russia call Thursday. Is a small Friday)))
We started at my friends house, spent some time there (this guy is a crazy whiskey fan) and after moved to Dejavu which I mentioned in my previous post. Thursdays are pretty dull there, but we still managed to get quite drunk. We payed for 6 whiskeys (Jameson), 2 long island (BTW my favourite drink) and one normal tea abut 5000 rubles (considering we had 25% discount) which I think is not cheap at all.
Anyways, after that we left for another strip-joint called Egoist which was also mentioned in my previous post. Nothing new, the girls there ARE SICK, they are so hot that its not even funny, but very very expensive. I guess this is what new Moscow is all about. Now you have to pay big for good quality. Left Egoist around 4 AM, went back to my friends place when an old friend from facebook (23 year old) called me and asked to visit her. I've never seen her in real life but was up for it, cause my girlfriend was giving me shit and I wanted some free action))) This was one of those times when you just need to call it quits on a night and go home. The girl was FAT and I was schocked when I saw her. However she was VERY willing. But then I thought. What the hell, I'm drunk and ready to go. Basically, crazy sex for 30 min, then calling a taxi and here I am writting this post.
Thanks for the encouraging replyes to my first post, lets hope I will contribute more and more)
Explorer69
09-24-10, 09:43
My favorite is Dejavu (located close to old Metelitsa casino behind Ypiter photo shop on Noviy Arbat). A lot of members of IGS who work and live in Moscow might know this place as it used to be called Spearmint Rhino.
This place is not a brothel, but if the girl like you it's possible to take her home or partying with you. Most of the girls are 7s there, but there are couple of 8s and one 9. Plus what I like about this place is that every 15-25 min they do promotions when for 1000 rubles you get 3 dances instead of one.
I took a lot of different girls from that place, some of them wanted money (nothing much, like 5000), some just wanted to spend a good time with, and some offered to have sex there. Saying this I have to warn you, that sex on premises is only allowed if you know the manager. Who actually is a very cool guy.Thanks a lot from very valuable information from an "insider". If you take a girl out from Dejavu, what do you pay to the club?
Sam Suffit
09-24-10, 10:22
Guys do any of you have or known a semi pro or a pro that is a gymnast (artistic or rhythmic) or a former gymnast? I have the desire to drill a gymnast girl so bad and if any of you have such girl in your contacts it would be much appreciated if you can share the contact information.
Thank you very muchHi,
I remember one girl at Aurora 911 (strip club) who obviously is/was a gymnast. Her show arround the pole was really stricking. She was not the most beautiful girl in the club baut her body was nice and her dancing skills compensate. I haven't asked her but normally girls of this club normally go for sex in the permises (not cheap).
Let us know!
Sam Suffit
09-24-10, 13:08
First of all, I would like to say Hello, to all those members who have been contributing here for a long time. I started using ISG couple of weeks ago and decided to register today so that I could contribute my wealth of knowledge, especially after some veterans like Pyzdets have decided to call it quits. Very good and informative report Tribeta. Thank you. I come to Moscow on a regular basis since 10 years or so and I agree with you on the fact that the city has changed a lot. I remember the time when I was staying at the Mezunarodnaya hotel and I could enjoy the choice of 15 sweet and happy chicks willing to go up for 3000 rur. Suddenly they move to Crowne Plazza, doubled the room rates, closed the night bar and downsized the "personnel". Nowadays you can hardly find one miserable granny rambling in the lobby who will ask you 5000rur minimum. This sounds like a veteran story but it was only 4 years back.
I heard a lot about Dejavu and based on your advise I will do some scouting there next week. I also agree with you about Aurora 911. It is a really nice place. I have been these in May and I really had fun. So much fun that I went there two nights in a row. I found the girls very nice, wiling to chat (in english), not really on money. Having said that sex at the permises is quite expensive because you have to pay for the girl and the room, which increase the cost drastically especially when you already have a room next door at the Budapest Hotel.
I agree with Strike69 about easier girls in the Russian provinces, but then there is the language barrier when foreigners do not handle Russian.
By the way, I need to book my hotel. Do you know a nice Hotel were I can find chicks at a reasonable price (the hotel and the chicks)?. I was desapointed last time by the Budapest: I read a lot of good things about it but once I was there, I found hout that the hotel was dead. The bar was promissing at 6pm but zero at night.
AColonizer
09-25-10, 20:50
And why don't you choice a flat instead a hotel?
Sam Suffit
09-26-10, 17:40
And why don't you choice a flat instead a hotel?Well, probably because I like my comfort. I think there is nothing better than having a nice bar close to my room.
No waste of time.
Well, probably because I like my comfort. I think there is nothing better than having a nice bar close to my room.
No waste of time.SS - Believe it or not, the Hotel Korston offers an interesting combination. Not too many hotels that have a strip club inside the hotel. Rates are less that $200 per night and location is not too bad.
Sam Suffit
09-28-10, 07:47
SS - Believe it or not, the Hotel Korston offers an interesting combination. Not too many hotels that have a strip club inside the hotel. Rates are less that $200 per night and location is not too bad.Thanks for the lead Jake. I just checked but unfortunately it is fully booked for this week. I'll try again for my next visit.
Anyways, one of the reasons I don't like tochkas is because the girls that work there are mostly alcoholics or drug abusers. Plus the prices for a decent girl tend to be quite high 12000-15000 for a 7. If you get an 8+ for that money count yourself lucky..
Back in the day (2003-2005) Tochkas were a blast - it was blatant sexual slavery, sure, but the girls were relatively hot fresh ones from the wheat fields of places like Chuvashia and Kostroma Oblast. They'd get lured into Moscow and threatened with public censure if they ran back to their parents. You could get a decent one for $100 when that was around 3000 rubles the last time around. However greed prevailed and now people rely on intimcity and sextalk and stick to internet hobags and the popular brothels like Charmel and Fantasys. You can find girls that will take care of you for the night for 8000 on intimcity so 15000 for the night for a tochka hobag is a straight-out waste of money.
Hi,
I remember one girl at Aurora 911 (strip club) who obviously is/was a gymnast. Her show arround the pole was really stricking. She was not the most beautiful girl in the club baut her body was nice and her dancing skills compensate. I haven't asked her but normally girls of this club normally go for sex in the permises (not cheap).
Let us know!
Thank you, will try to check her out. If any other knows another gymnast- contortionist girl that works as a pro or semi pro, please let me know.
Starchild2012
09-30-10, 16:09
First of all, I would like to say Hello, to all those members who have been contributing here for a long time. I started using ISG couple of weeks ago and decided to register today so that I could contribute my wealth of knowledge, especially after some veterans like Pyzdets have decided to call it quits.
Hey, Thanks for the valuable tip on Moscow scene. Great to get advice from a Muscovite. Just few questions...How safe is for a lone Indian traveler to visit these clubs..what are my chances of picking up girls from clubs :)
Are apartment girls that are on intimcity ru real deal...How safe is it visit these apartments. Thanks
I found out, that this site has very knowledgeable people, so would appreciate your help.
I will be travelling to Moscow for one week time and will be staying in business oriented hotel: How easy is it to get girls discreetly and directly to hotel rooms? Do hotel staff typically allow girls to enter the rooms?
I have not found good web sites to find girls. What sites/agencies/independents would be best to look for? I like to make bookings through email. Is the information on girls typically marketing oriented or realistic?
Gentleman Travel
10-01-10, 15:27
I found out, that this site has very knowledgeable people, so would appreciate your help.
I will be travelling to Moscow for one week time and will be staying in business oriented hotel: How easy is it to get girls discreetly and directly to hotel rooms? Do hotel staff typically allow girls to enter the rooms?
I have not found good web sites to find girls. What sites/agencies/independents would be best to look for? I like to make bookings through email. Is the information on girls typically marketing oriented or realistic?
The easiest and most discrete thing to do is to use one of the lobby girls who will likely be populating the hotel after 11:00 pm. The quality and cost will depend on which hotel you are in. However, these girls will not usually be the best, but you may get lucky. Also, they are not likely to rip you off or cause problems, they have to work there. If you are worried about business associates seeing you, you can signal a girl to join you at the elevators, or talk to a doorman/security to send a particular girl up to your room.
Using outsiders (outcalls or girls you meet in a bar and bring back) might mean bribing the security guard as you bring her in and/or registering her at the desk. It might also mean an additional room charge for a second person, which might be an issue depending on who vets your expenses.
With escort web-sites there are two major issues - are the profiles mostly legitimate, and can you do business in English? Calling girls from web-sites or ads you will find that many do not respond or hang up on English speakers - it's not worth their while for the communications hassles.
I don't have direct experience with Russian escort sites, but have the impression that www.rusdosug.ru is a good bet. The site is in English, tells you the level of the girl's English and prices and location. Usually you can tell the salons or apartments with several girls. But there are lots of other sites and maybe someone else has better recommendations.
I am back from a 3 day trip to moscow. I stayed at Hotel Renaissance, which is a very nice business hotel at Olympic prospect. There are some working girls in the lobby, but usually not the beautiful girls. So I went to Night Flight on the first evening. Was kind of slow there. Perhaps 15 girls around. No real hotties. Decided to go to Egoiste (formerly apparently known as Hungry Duck). This is a table dance club. Central round stage of 2/3 m surrounded by some sofas. The entrance is 1000 Rubels. The girls will come to your table and will give you a brief lapdance, which would then make 500 rubels each time. Once they have the money they stop dancing and go to the next one. Can get quite expensive, if you do not find a way to send the girls away. Egoiste has real stunnres. I hooked up with a 22 year old blondish girl with super body (although the tits were fake). I invited her to some drinks. Not too expensive and took a table dance. Later I decided to take her to my hotel. I had to pay 1. 000 USD to the club. The girl came with me, and we did have georgious sex, GFE kissing everything but covered blowjob and sex. She did stay until the next morning (actually I took her home at 4. 30 and we had sex until 6. At 09. 00 we got up and she went home. Pretended she had to go to her mother.
Next day I tried Night flight again. This time a little earlier. I was there at 23. 00. Again no girl that would have interested me. I decided to take a taxi and go to another club. Taxi driver drove me to a strip club near Hotel Renessaince. Do not remember the name. Anyhow. Nice girls. You could invite to have a drink. I took a private dance, which turned out to be 3. 000 rubles for 3 songs private dance, kissing included. I did not take the girl home, since I was tired and wanted to safe some money.
Next day I went to Bordo straight away. This club has quite some nice action. Lots of girls, lots of men. The club is the only club which will allow to have sex there. 1000 Rubels entrance. Girls will take 200 Rubels for a teaser lapdance. To go to a room for 30 min straight sex will then cost 8. 000 rubels, plus 700 to rent the cabin where this can take place. It is an option but certainly no GFE. Girls there (around 30 girls) look nice. But not that quality you will find in Egoiste.
My best evening was the one at Egoiste. I did pay 1. 000 but the reward was to go home with a super hot chick that will give me GFE sex. More expensive are the different club visits with many times taxi, entrance, tipping, drink. Etc. That will not lead to the result you wish.
Some other night a taxi driver brought me to some other strip club I never heard of. I am sorry, I do not remember the name. Anyhow, quality of girls excellent. 30 girls around. Only 4 men. I am quite sure that the overall quality of girls in the manifold strip clubs in Moscow is very good and you can easily trust the taxi driver when he suggests a club off the beaten path. However, strip clubs can become expensive if you want to have sex.
Stravinsky
10-04-10, 01:11
The girls will come to your table and will give you a brief lapdance, which would then make 500 rubels each time.500 руб. for a lapdance??? Looks like you're not in Kansas anymore, Toto.
My best evening was the one at Egoiste. I did pay 1. 000Is that Rubles, Dollars or Euros?
A grand for gfe?
You most certainly have skewed Moscow pricing in the wrong direction.
An outstanding report on the desirability to book a lobby girl instead of more complicated arrangements.
Kumar Arun
10-05-10, 10:40
I know a girl from CIS, who can speak more than descent English and very very good at bed. She can be a guide for non russian speaking men, who wants to have some serious fun. I think she will be as comfortable as fish in water with other girls in bed.
I had great fun with her and gosh, one of the best CIS girl I ever had.
500 руб. for a lapdance?
Looks like you're not in Kansas anymore, Toto.
Is that Rubles, Dollars or Euros?It was US Dollars, for the entire night.
A grand for gfe?
You most certainly have skewed Moscow pricing in the wrong direction.Well, I know the discussion to be short with money to keep the prices down. However, the girls in Moscow do know their going rate quite well and I am only talking about the really hot girls which are a 9 or 10. Might be that you do much better on girls that would actually need to pay to get sex.
In fact, the girls in the clubs in moscow tend to ignore westerner guests because they are known to be cheap. Russian men usually spend 10 times as much in nightclubs. So you see, there is also damage that can be done by being too cheap all the time. As somebody who will be traveling to Moscow only 1 time per year for 1-2 nights the most, it does not make sense to negotiate too much. It is much more important to find the right looking girl giving a correct service. Negotiating down every cent can be a wrong start for the night in this respect.
Stravinsky
10-06-10, 15:10
In fact, the girls in the clubs in moscow tend to ignore westerner guests because they are known to be cheap. Russian men usually spend 10 times as much in nightclubs.Really??? Interesting... I never knew that.
it does not make sense to negotiate too much. It is much more important to find the right looking girl giving a correct service. Negotiating down every cent can be a wrong start for the night in this respect.And tomorrow night, she will tell all her friends at the club about the stupid Western tourist who paid her 1,000 USD for 1 1/2 hours of sex (from 4:30 to 6:00). Which is about 20 times what a Russian man would pay.
Well, I know the discussion to be short with money to keep the prices down. However, the girls in Moscow do know their going rate quite well and I am only talking about the really hot girls which are a 9 or 10. Might be that you do much better on girls that would actually need to pay to get sex.
In fact, the girls in the clubs in moscow tend to ignore westerner guests because they are known to be cheap. Russian men usually spend 10 times as much in nightclubs. So you see, there is also damage that can be done by being too cheap all the time. As somebody who will be traveling to Moscow only 1 time per year for 1-2 nights the most, it does not make sense to negotiate too much. It is much more important to find the right looking girl giving a correct service. Negotiating down every cent can be a wrong start for the night in this respect.I'm no expert on Moscow, but on my last visit, between Nightflight, stripclubs, and lobby girls, I was never initially quoted more than 500 US. The key was to chat the girls and make sure you both had chemistry towards each other before negotiating. These girls were not stupid. If they would have quoted a grand, they knew I would have been turned off and walked away. This is just like any other business where credibility is everything. Yes they were all smoking hot.
As to Russian men being big spenders, complete bullshit. Prostitute pussy is a dime a dozen for oligarchs. As a foreigner with no language skills, I already could see the vast potential that was available to me. I could only imagine what those bad boys have available to them.
And tomorrow night, she will tell all her friends at the club about the stupid Western tourist who paid her 1,000 USD for 1 1/2 hours of sex (from 4:30 to 6:00). Which is about 20 times what a Russian man would pay. All good points guys. $1,000 is waaaaaaaay too much to spend for any amount of GFE - especially if you are a Moscow regular and have plenty of time to line things up in advance or to scope the clubs, get to know a few girls and cultivate some freebees.
However, before we get all rat ass on Toto, he has a few good points too. If you are in Moscow once a year and only have one or two nights AND you can afford it - Fuckin "A" Skippy - go for it. Time is still the most precious commodity of all. If you are short on time and long on money then paying grand for a night makes all the sense in the world.
Toto - come on man, work with us. I'm sure you have your reasons for plunking down $1,000 for one night of blissful GFE, but for Christ's sake keep it to yourself. Telling all of us on this forum is just going to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) us off. We all know it happens, we all know it drives the price up, none of us like it so if you have to do it - JUST DON'T TELL US!!!!!!!!!
Glad you had a nice night.
Stravinsky
10-07-10, 04:26
I have no problem with guys telling us how they dropped thousands of Dollars/Euros on a CBJ from a "9" or "10". It's their money and it's their business. More power to them.
I do have a problem with someone who has only been in Moscow once or twice (by his own admission), pretending to be some kind of expert on mongering in Russia. Why? Why not just be honest? "Hey guys, I have no idea what I'm doing, but let me tell you what happened... I went to this club and picked up one of the most gorgeous babes I've ever met and she took me to the moon and back."
Now that's a story I'd like to hear! :)
It's also important for other guys reading this forum to understand that this is NOT normal pricing, or behavior, in Moscow.
Then, does anyone know correct standard price in Egoiste?
I hear that Egoiste is most expensive and hottest strip club now in Moscow.
I think that Toto reported correct information and his information is valuable.
If you think that price is too high, you have only to stay away from Egoiste.
I think everyone in this forum should give certain gratitude to someone who reported any new information.
Toto, thanks for your information.
Steve Naive
10-07-10, 18:44
I'm sure you have your reasons for plunking down $1,000 for one night of blissful GFE, but for Christ's sake keep it to yourself. ... We all know it happens, we all know it drives the price up, none of us like it
A grand for gfe? You most certainly have skewed Moscow pricing in the wrong direction. One guy overpaying a lady one night in Moscow drives up prices in exactly the same way as pouring a 500 ml water bottle into the Atlantic raises the level of the ocean: in no measurable way. If you think otherwise, you don't understand market economics.
What really raises the cost of ladies here is the same thing that raises the cost of a Big Mac, and at about the same rate of increase: cost of living, which is also market economics.
One guy overpaying a lady one night in Moscow drives up prices in exactly the same way as pouring a 500 ml water bottle into the Atlantic raises the level of the ocean: in no measurable way. If you think otherwise, you don't understand market economics.
What really raises the cost of ladies here is the same thing that raises the cost of a Big Mac, and at about the same rate of increase: cost of living, which is also market economics.Let us go back to economics 101. Demand refers to service desired by buyers. Supply represents how much market can offer. It is completely guaranteed that every dev in this club will be aware of there associate landing the thousand $ whale by next day. With that in the back of there mind, they will have no choice but to experiment with this wonderful new found pricing.
Its just my opinion that a direct change of future events could have occurred
Because of one transaction. Maybe I would be the poor dude quoted a grand the following day.
Steve Naive
10-07-10, 22:21
Maybe I would be the poor dude quoted a grand the following day.If she told ME $1000 was her price, I would eventually stop laughing, then I would ask someone else, as would the others that walked away from her that night. She would then decide how much she she could afford a night off. Or I would accept the message that if she was asking this much, she did not want me for a customer, and I would move on.
Economics is indeed about supply and demand. What do you suppose is the demand for girls asking $1000 in a city that has so many available for less?
I do not believe that in a market this large that what one guy pays has any impact on what other girls charge, or on what customers pay. Yes prices have gone up here in the past few years, but no it has nothing to do with this guy. There have always been some willing to pay more, anywhere you go, and the ladies have always known it. Ragging on the rare guy who pays this much is pointless
Ah, but this is an old, recurring argument on ISG (any board) that nobody can win, and I've had my say, so I'm done. Happy mongering!
Stravinsky
10-08-10, 06:43
The thing about the market in Moscow, or most anywhere else in eastern Europe, is that it is not homogeneous. There are significant barriers to entry: mainly culture and language. As Jake has pointed out, the guys who are only there once in a while, for a few days, speak no Russian and don't understand Russian culture operate at a significant disadvantage. They can only catch as catch can and if the girl in their lap happens to ask for 1,000 USD, they really aren't in any position to negotiate. That's understandable.
What bothers me is when guys like this start thinking that they are suddenly some kind of expert on Russian women because they picked up a lap dancer in Egoiste and start making banal pronouncements about Russian men and women and comparing Russian society to Western society.
That's all I wanted to say.
Gentleman Travel
10-08-10, 17:51
Decided to go to Egoiste (formerly apparently known as Hungry Duck). This is a table dance club. Central round stage of 2/3 m surrounded by some sofas. The entrance is 1000 Rubels. The girls will come to your table and will give you a brief lapdance, which would then make 500 rubels each time. Once they have the money they stop dancing and go to the next one. Can get quite expensive, if you do not find a way to send the girls away. Egoiste has real stunnres.
I thought Egoist was a male strip club?
Are there two Egoist/Egoiste/Egoistka clubs?
I also don't care what someone else pays or doesn't pay, and while I am highly unlikely to go to Egoiste if I do I am also highly unlikely to pay $1000 USD for anyone there. I do thank Toto for the report, it just adds to the databank of information that may be useful at some stage.
However, I also would like to know where this information came from:
In fact, the girls in the clubs in moscow tend to ignore westerner guests because they are known to be cheap. Russian men usually spend 10 times as much in nightclubs. So you see, there is also damage that can be done by being too cheap all the time. As somebody who will be traveling to Moscow only 1 time per year for 1-2 nights the most, it does not make sense to negotiate too much. It is much more important to find the right looking girl giving a correct service. Negotiating down every cent can be a wrong start for the night in this respect.
It is certainly at odds with my experience.
Cheers
Stravinsky
10-09-10, 05:54
i thought egoist was a male strip club?
are there two egoist/egoiste/egoistka clubs?i think there have been several egoist clubs over the years, it's a common name.
egoistka (fem) is the male strip club for women.
there is also an egoist gold, on spiridonovka near the intersection of sadovaya kudrinskaya. i stopped by there once, but i didn't have enough money to even take a peek through the window.
my favorite is puzir. but it's a bit of a trek, near universityet.
My favorite is Puzir. But it's a bit of a trek, near Universityet.
Strav,
Any more details on exactly where it is? I have a business colleague whose office is very close to that Metro stop and Puzir could be very convenient. Also, could you tell us a little more about the place?
Thanks,
Jake
Stravinsky
10-10-10, 18:02
Jake,
Puzir is on the southeast(?) corner of Lomonosovskii and Vernardskovo, right at the Universityet Metro station.
There's a rynok there, on the corner, and its in the back, but you should see the sign standing up above the rest of the market.
It was closed for a long time. I think there was a fire, and the whole place was covered with a big tarp for over a year. But... I notice on http://strip.sextalk.ru that they have a new listing with a new phone number and a picture that shows a new facade, so it looks like it's open again. If you are going to be in the neighborhood anyway, check it out.
I remember one of the nice things about the old Puzir is that there were a LOT of studyentki hanging out there from MGU. Also, the erotic-massage.ru salon is just a couple blocks away on Leninskii Prospekt. Just in case you can't get satisfaction from the strippers or the studyentki.
Here's a report I posted about it. It's old, but if the new Puzir is anything like the old Puzir, you should have a blast there. I know I did. :)
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=375215&postcount=607
Jake,
Puzir is on the southeast(?) corner of Lomonosovskii and Vernardskovo, right at the Universityet Metro station.
There's a rynok there, on the corner, and its in the back, but you should see the sign standing up above the rest of the market.
It was closed for a long time. I think there was a fire, and the whole place was covered with a big tarp for over a year. But... I notice on http://strip.sextalk.ru that they have a new listing with a new phone number and a picture that shows a new facade, so it looks like it's open again. If you are going to be in the neighborhood anyway, check it out.
I'm pretty sure it's closed for good (since 2007), also 5 kapel on that list is closed as well (it's now a restaurant).
But try calling the number and see what they say. In general the only cheap strip club left in Moscow as of last year was Rufina, out at Shyolkovskaya. It was 200 rubles cover and beers were 60 rubles, as of a year ago, but I've heard they've raised prices recently.
Stravinsky
10-11-10, 07:20
It's true, sextalk isn't very good about keeping its strip club list up to date.
A couple of "lower" price clubs that I know are operating are Strekoza and Zatmyeniya. I remember I was very impressed with the quality of the talent at Strekoza, as good as anything you'd find in the center of town, for a fraction of the cost.
Member #4369
10-16-10, 16:37
Hi guys,
Can someone explain what 'Mamba' is? I have seen some references in the posts but didn't get the jist--is it a website, or a place?
Also, if anyone has a moment, can you do a 2 minute, bullet point summary of the best places to pick up-pay-for-play in Moscow these days?
Thanks,
RoP
Stravinsky
10-16-10, 16:50
Mamba is a website.
http://www.mamba.ru/
I don't know this for sure, but it's been reported that you can find women there who will actually have sex with you for money! :eek:
The mamba database also powers other "dating" sites like Rambler.
And yes, you can find girls on there who will интим за деньги and also Хочу найти спонсора (looking for sponsor). Unlike Western dating/sex sites the girls on Mamba generally mean what they write.
The girls also respond to your messages (in the main) and/or contact you !
If you are going to spend any meaningful time in Russia, get on-line, make a profile and you won't look back.
Cheers
Well, what say here you would like to hear was actually everything I was saying in my report. I did not write the report as an expert. Also I did not write the report for people who consider themselves as experts to the scene in moscow. I wrote it from one occasional visitor on a business trip to the next one. So people who will read and will follow my path will know what to expect. By the way, I doubt that any of you guys will be able to negotiate down the prices at this night club. They are fixed. You do not even negotiate with the girl. You will have to deal with the waitor. So it is a go. No go decision. And here comes into account the time. Knowing that it is one of the last occasions that you have on this trip you may decide to go for the fixed price in that club. I doubt it will have any influence on the prices outside the clubs. Especially since this club seems to be one of the premium clubs in Moscow. At Nightflight the girls quoted prices of 400 USD. If I would have met a girl there that I liked I would certainly not pay her 1000. But if she quotes 500 and I can settle her down to like 400, which seems fair, then I would not try to negotiate much further down given that the girl is a cutie. I would in this case be afraid that it would have a detrimetal impact on the service.
To all you experts. Please consider that there may be also occasional mongerers reading the reports here and they would like to know what they have to expect in the one or other club. From my report these guys learned that you have to put in some money if you go there, but that the girls are well looking. If you plan to take a girl home and you are not willing to spend 1. 000 USD on it, you might want to choose some other club. I think this is pretty informative
I have no problem with guys telling us how they dropped thousands of Dollars/Euros on a CBJ from a "9" or "10". It's their money and it's their business. More power to them.
I do have a problem with someone who has only been in Moscow once or twice (by his own admission), pretending to be some kind of expert on mongering in Russia. Why? Why not just be honest? "Hey guys, I have no idea what I'm doing, but let me tell you what happened. I went to this club and picked up one of the most gorgeous babes I've ever met and she took me to the moon and back. "
Now that's a story I'd like to hear!
It's also important for other guys reading this forum to understand that this is NOT normal pricing, or behavior, in Moscow.
Stravinsky
10-21-10, 05:32
Toto,
You're right, every post enriches our store of knowledge and I'm sure there is a diverse enough membership here in the Moscow forum to benefit from advice and experience at all levels. I just couldn't figure out how you became an expert on Russian mongering, society and culture in 3 days. That's all.
However, the girls in Moscow do know their going rate quite well and I am only talking about the really hot girls which are a 9 or 10.
In fact, the girls in the clubs in moscow tend to ignore westerner guests because they are known to be cheap.
Russian men usually spend 10 times as much in nightclubs.
So you see, there is also damage that can be done by being too cheap all the time.
it does not make sense to negotiate too much. Negotiating down every cent can be a wrong start for the night in this respect.
Against better judgement and counsel, I went to Hot Dog's (aka Boar house, aka Chesterfield's) last night. It was shit. Checked my coat, moved to the middle part of the bar and got a beer. Chatted with the bartender and the girls moved in. Maybe I am just jaded but there did not seem to be the LEAST bit of seduction involved. I felt like I was at an Oriental Bazaar and without so much as little small talk (pick a language) I was propositioned for no less than 400 Euros for the night. Believing that it was bargain banter, I tried to play the game and do some negotiating but things seemed to be getting confrontational. It seemed a but strange until I spied "Olga the c*nt".
Yes guys - she appears to be the new Queen Bee at Hot Dog's. I have a bad personal history with her so I thought it might be just me. But after observing for a while, several of the less experienced girls were coming to her for advice on how to handle those of us who do not accept their prices on first offer.
I don't mean to be an asshole about this but from what I could observe, this bit*ch is acting as coach to about 12 girls who were on her "team". For those who don't know Olga the c*nt, she is a very pleasant looking lady who, on first glance, appears to be about 25 years old but after a closer look, it's clear that she's closer to about 35. She has long medium brown hair with a very pleasant smile and sort of a "girl-next-door" face. Her skin is fairly pale and she seems to favor dresses that reveal her shoulders. She's actually quite nice to look at but she should be avoided. She the kind of girl who promises a wild night of sexual delights until the sun comes up but after the first pop she runs off to the bathroom and comes out fully clothed with cell phone in hand with some bullshit excuse about having to go home early. Many of you know what I am talking about. We don't need her giving the rest of the girls a seminar on how to extract more money for less effort.
Anyhow - I'm ranting now but let me join the long list of ISG members who say that this is the LAST time I am going to Hot Dog's. It used to be a cool place to go for a beer or to watch Sunday Night Football, but the girls have gotten so aggressive and so greedy that it's not much fun at all. There used to be a fair share of semi-pros who made the place fun but it seems to have been taken over by some hard core Ho's who have a bad attitude. It's just not fun anymore. If you want to check it out and have a beer on the odd chance that some provincalka looking to earn some extra cash has stumbled in and is willing to play the game - fine. But don't get your hopes up.
Jake out
"Hardcore ho's with bad attitude".
That is exactly as I saw it.
Stravinsky
10-22-10, 07:27
Jake,
It's too bad about Hot Dog's, it was a fun place at one point. Strange that the management would let it go to hell like that, it can't be helping their business.
Good to hear that you are back in the motherland again. Do keep us updated when you have a chance.
Stavvrrooss
10-27-10, 00:55
To make a long story short, as this topic has been covered in hundreds of posts. Within the context in which I'm young and very attractive, I worked my ass of to negotiate smth better than USD 400, and I got the oldest chick in the place to go for 350 USD. If any of you guys get better, cheers to you!
It was always the same story: "our rule is that we don; t go below 500 USD, all girls agreed to it, and won't go for less". In reality the rule is "start at 500 and go as low as USD 400", or at least that's the impression I got. BTW, that gets you 2 hours of sex.
I strongly recommend "mamba" or "meetme. Ru", same shit going under different names, you can get laid for 80-100 USD/hour and if you search right you can get same quality as nighflight.
If you don; t care about cash and have 500-1000 USD/night to spend, I strongly recommend you go to Nightflight, huge selection, some of the girls are stunning, if you are on a budget, try ONLINE (mamba or websites).
Finally, if as an expat you speak Russian, you don't ever have to pay for sex, unless you fancy the experience.
Finally, if as an expat you speak Russian, you don't ever have to pay for sex, unless you fancy the experience. 100% bang on. And it does not even have to be good Russian. Just smile and make an effort. BTW - Papas on Monday night is Student Night. Wall to wall students with a 5:1 female to male ratio.
I think you pay for it one way or the other anyway, be it financially or emotionally. Freebies aren't necessarily free...
IMO language skills provides the means to have access to a much larger pool of opportunity - you're not stuck with only those who can speak your language. Also, it means that you can hunt further afield than just Moscow or St.Pete, with the confidence that you can handle most situations.
Jake, thanks for the tip on Papas...students, my favourite!
Cheers
BillyRayJim
11-08-10, 21:49
In devochki.ru on the individual girl's pages, right above the prices for hour and night is a line that says "use of a condom:" followed by "necessary" or "not neccessary", all according to rustran.com.
The question is, to what does this pertain? Is it to oral with condom/without (OW/OWO) or is it protectected/unprotected intercourse? Or both?
Stravinsky
11-09-10, 16:28
Chances are, she wants a preservatif on everything.
If you are willing to wade through a Russian website, try intimcity.ru instead. It will list whether or not the girl expects to use a condom for the BJ. Look to see of the Минет в презервативе (BJ with a condom) box is checked.
BTW, the Russian word for BJ is минет.
BillyRayJim
11-09-10, 23:25
Which means without.
What does our high monger Bez word play on Bezarra mean?
Is it a bezed for of bizarre?
Passepartout
11-11-10, 22:04
Sorry guys, but i have to write a good report about hotdog.
It is not a favorite place for me in dispite of the fact that i live 100 meters near HD.
But last time, beers with a friend a home, too tired to try the non-paying market, so we decided to have a beer at HD.
After a beer or 2, i found a red/brown hair girl, seated alone with a coffee, a little bit bored. I sat with her and with started to discussed. After 30 minutes, i found out that we were laughing and keep on laughing, and at that moment she suddenly said to me "do you know why the girls are here" ... i obviously answered positively, and then she said "13 000 rubles".
I didn't answer anything, we continued to talk and started to kiss, and then she said "please let's go for 11 000 rubles" .Then i said immediately yes, as she was really beautifuL, with stars in the eyes and apparently a great (thin) body.
We went home and it was a really great sex party without limit (except covered BJ ..at the beggining...:-), lot of kisses, everything. Before leaving she told me "take my phone number, my best friend is on vacation right now but we want to try a threesome party .."
Since that night, we keep on exchanging some SMS... worth the 11 000 initiam investment imho.
It doesn't say that the place is great. It only says that sometimes you can still be lucky here for a still reasonable price.
Stravinsky
11-12-10, 16:17
PPt,
I envy you, living in Moscow. You can just drop in anytime you feel like it. It's true, you never know what you might find in HD and it's a real luxury to be able to check it out and leave if there is nothing interesting, knowing that you can check again tomorrow, or next week.
Most of us don't have that much time, we're there for a few days and have to make the most of what little time we have. Keep us updated with all the good (and bad) things you find, so we can be prepared when it's our turn.
Jake, thanks for the tip on Papas...students, my favourite!Hey Dogger and Jake!
What do you mean with Papas? "Papa's Place" or "Papa John's"?
Cheers!
Helena Moscow
11-14-10, 12:06
Hi Guys,
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Stravinsky
11-14-10, 17:58
Helena,
Thanks for the list of hotels. Have you any experience with this new remodel of the Ukraina hotel, now operated by Radisson?
Hi Guys,
Now the information about best hotel deals and weather in Moscow is available on my pages http://helena-moscow.ru/moscowinfo.html and http://escort-helena.com/moscowinfo.html . Enjoy :)What about Ma Maison Pokrovska ?
Seems a nice boutique hotel, a bit overpriced, yet surely a bit negotiable (got a rate at 4000 rubles net at Korston BTW, as it is ranked at 230us$++ in your site)
http://www.mamaison.com/moscow.html
Helena Moscow
11-14-10, 20:29
Helena,
Thanks for the list of hotels. Have you any experience with this new remodel of the Ukraina hotel, now operated by Radisson?Hi,
I personally had not experience with this place after renovation, but I heard that it depends on the shift. Sometimes they don't pay attention, but sometimes stop and ask questions. Especially on the way back. And they may ask passport scan. Same as before.
They mean "Papa's Place".
Monday is students night and cheap drinks as well.
http://papas.ru/en/index.html
I went last week and the basement was PACKED full of people. About 1:1 guy:girl. Very young (like 21 and under) crowd. Being foreign and over 30 I felt a bit out of place.
Anyone pull from here on students night?
Hey Dogger and Jake!
What do you mean with Papas? "Papa's Place" or "Papa John's"?
Cheers!
Helena Moscow
11-15-10, 20:38
What about Ma Maison Pokrovska ?
Seems a nice boutique hotel, a bit overpriced, yet surely a bit negotiable (got a rate at 4000 rubles net at Korston BTW, as it is ranked at 230us$++ in your site)
http://www.mamaison.com/moscow.htmlIt's a nice place, I like. Very quiet, never no problem, and beautiful rooms.
Helena Moscow
11-27-10, 15:27
New photos of old friends.
It's a nice place, I like. Very quiet, never no problem, and beautiful rooms.
What do you think of Korston Hotel?
What do you think of Korston Hotel?Korston is a bit out of the way, but plenty of action in the bars. There's also a large strip club inside the hotel (about $40 to get in, but drinks are bar prices, I believe).
Helena Moscow
11-28-10, 00:41
What do you think of Korston Hotel?Hi,
Korston is a little bit far from everywhere (no metro station in this street), but ok. You need to meet your guest on the floor, because the floor locks with a card. Lift has no card. Security check handbags and use metallic detectors like in the airport. But in general the stuff let people come and go quite easily, because there are a lot of restaurants both down and upstairs, a night club and before this hotel was famous for casino (which is now closed). A small crowd downstairs is a normal thing for this place.
I liked the Ibis Hotel at Pavletskaya. Small hotel with newer rooms and very girl friendly. Lots of true business men with an occasional tour group. Its out of the center but when I stayed it offered some summer bargains. If you stay at hotels like Korston, you will already be categorized as a monger if you meet somebody normal. That's just me.
Off the subject, but here's a tip for some. I spent my first night at Cosmos Hotel(Dump, don't go there). That evening I just had to check out these legendary Moscow prostitute bars so off I went to NightFlight. When I was chatting the devs in this place, they of course asked me what I was doing in Moscow. Like every other monger, I had some crap about being a banker. When they asked me what hotel I was staying at, I responded the Cosmos Hotel. Well, keep in mind I'm one heck of a Sicilian bull shiter, my charade was up and they knew I was in Moscow to monger. Even with prostitutes, I do not like being associated with mongering in peoples eyes.
So how did I get the stink off of me and make sure that I did not skeeve anybody, be it taxi driver, bar girl, somebody I meet on street? First, I changed my hotel to where business men stay. Second, I almost never say this crap anymore about being banker or some business executive. When people asked me why I was there from that day on, I would always respond that I met a Russian girl in my hometown and now I am just a fool chasing a girl half way around the world. Anybody and everybody will always understand the foolish actions of somebody in love.
May not seem very informative, but if your going travel the world to seek out some tail, you might as well try to immerse yourself into the culture without anybody looking down at you.
Will be in Moscow for the next few weeks. Anyone interested in meeting, drinking, and discussing, chasing, and lying about girls?
Hi,
Korston is a little bit far from everywhere (no metro station in this street), but ok. You need to meet your guest on the floor, because the floor locks with a card. Lift has no card. Security check handbags and use metallic detectors like in the airport. But in general the stuff let people come and go quite easily, because there are a lot of restaurants both down and upstairs, a night club and before this hotel was famous for casino (which is now closed). A small crowd downstairs is a normal thing for this place.
Thanks Helena and Dave. I am sorry that the Casino is closed. I am sure it attracted a crowd and as result more girls in the bars!
Tribeta, are you still lurking around here? Wanted to send you a PM but not possible. Speak up if you are around.
Hi,
I personally had not experience with this place after renovation, but I heard that it depends on the shift. Sometimes they don't pay attention, but sometimes stop and ask questions. Especially on the way back. And they may ask passport scan. Same as before.Well I have stayed there quite a lot during last months. Lots of security but never noticed them to ask anyone anything. Just depends a bit your outlook as well. There are often 1-2 working girls sitting at bar too. But like ones I have met with customers, only high level ones (eeeeeexpensive my dear fellows), with top of the line dresses etc.
Anyone pull from here on students night? Yes, but I'm not proud of it. ;)
Gents, have been a 5 years since I've been to Moscow. I used to go to Safari strip club, Velvet (or something like that, where you climb stairs and the club is upstairs). Etc.
What are the clubs that have same facilities and nice strippers where you can indulge?
Regards
Gents, have been a 5 years since I've been to Moscow. I used to go to Safari strip club, Velvet (or something like that, where you climb stairs and the club is upstairs). Etc.
What are the clubs that have same facilities and nice strippers where you can indulge?
RegardsBoofer,
In one way or another MOST of the strip clubs can arrange for on-site (near-site) intimacy. Having said that some are more straightforward that others. Most recently, I have heard about such facilities at Penthouse Club, Aurora 911, and Oh La La.
I understand that Penthouse Club has gotten quite creative because they have registered legally as a boutique hotel and when you go to the room, you actually register at the front desk of sorts and you actually PAY for your room (about 10, 000 rubles) for an hour. If a girl just happens to show up at your door then that's your business. Interesting approach.
Aurora 911 was very nice clean rooms complete with shower and nice bed. It's been a while since I experienced it first hand but from what I recall it was nice. I seem to recall that it was about 10k as well for an hour.
And Ooh La, La I have no first hand data, only have heard that they have a "special room" for Dacha Dance similar to Safari Lodge from when you were there.
Have you considered visiting one of the salons? No strippers but you can pick one out of a line up and it will cost half the price.
Enjoy yourself.
Jake
Thanks Jack. Please give me a link to the salons please.
Regards.
Boofer,
In one way or another MOST of the strip clubs can arrange for on-site (near-site) intimacy. Having said that some are more straightforward that others. Most recently, I have heard about such facilities at Penthouse Club, Aurora 911, and Oh La La.
I understand that Penthouse Club has gotten quite creative because they have registered legally as a boutique hotel and when you go to the room, you actually register at the front desk of sorts and you actually PAY for your room (about 10, 000 rubles) for an hour. If a girl just happens to show up at your door then that's your business. Interesting approach.
Aurora 911 was very nice clean rooms complete with shower and nice bed. It's been a while since I experienced it first hand but from what I recall it was nice. I seem to recall that it was about 10k as well for an hour.
And Ooh La, La I have no first hand data, only have heard that they have a "special room" for Dacha Dance similar to Safari Lodge from when you were there.
Have you considered visiting one of the salons? No strippers but you can pick one out of a line up and it will cost half the price.
Enjoy yourself.
Jake
Thanks Jack. Please give me a link to the salons please.
Regards. Www.charmel.biz
www.fantasys.biz
www.atell.ru
AColonizer
12-27-10, 20:38
10000 / hour? But in www.devochki.cz 10000 rubles are for an overnight? 250 euros for the first hour? For what?
Boofer,
In one way or another MOST of the strip clubs can arrange for on-site (near-site) intimacy. Having said that some are more straightforward that others. Most recently, I have heard about such facilities at Penthouse Club, Aurora 911, and Oh La La.
I understand that Penthouse Club has gotten quite creative because they have registered legally as a boutique hotel and when you go to the room, you actually register at the front desk of sorts and you actually PAY for your room (about 10, 000 rubles) for an hour. If a girl just happens to show up at your door then that's your business. Interesting approach.
Aurora 911 was very nice clean rooms complete with shower and nice bed. It's been a while since I experienced it first hand but from what I recall it was nice. I seem to recall that it was about 10k as well for an hour.
And Ooh La, La I have no first hand data, only have heard that they have a "special room" for Dacha Dance similar to Safari Lodge from when you were there.
Have you considered visiting one of the salons? No strippers but you can pick one out of a line up and it will cost half the price.
Enjoy yourself.
Jake
The last time that I was in Penthouse (June) the deal was R. 10, 000 for the chick and R. 3,000 for the room. Each for one hour.
10000 / hour? But in.
www.devochki.cz
10000 rubles are for an overnight? 250 euros for the first hour? For what? Sorry Pal. I just report the news, I don't make it.
The last time that I was in Penthouse (June) the deal was R. 10, 000 for the chick and R. 3,000 for the room. Each for one hour.Seems like there is a special deal before 21:00.
After several trips to Russia that yeilded only disappointment with the salons, I followed the advice of some ISG members and decided to invest some time into preparing for my next trip by registering on MAMBA. My problem is always time, as I come to Russia for few days at a time and don't have the luxury of "going with the flow". Moreover, I don't have a wingman in Russia and going to clubs alone seems a bit pathetic (plus, I prefer to sleep at night). In other words, I found myself forced to plan way before my visit in order to maximize my few days in Russia.
So, I registered on Mamba. Due to my need of being discrete, I didn't post my picture on my Mamba profile. The first thing I noticed about MAMBA after registering there is the need to get a "real" status by submitting your Russian phone number and then SMSing back what they send you to this number. I guess, this means that unless I'm in Russia and decide to give away my mobile number to MAMBA, I don't have a real chance to benefit from this site fully. Please correct me, gentlemen, if I'm wrong about this. If I'm not, this MAMBA experiment has started off the wrong foot.
I also noticed huge numbers of P4P ads on MAMBA. Not too many studentki or something like that. I'll try anyway and report on what transpired. I think it can be helpful to the ISG members to have a real case study of someone like me (I'm sure there are many guys that fall into below criteria) :
A. Young (relatively) and prosperous, but short time to play in Russia.
Be. Can communicate in Russian.
See. Discrete, so can't post pictures on Mamba.
The. Prefers gorgeous 20 why. Old GFEs with innocent beautiful young faces and long skinny legs.
If anyone has already gone through what I'm planning to do. A feedback will be great. Happy New Year!
Aibolit
Stravinsky
01-02-11, 20:52
Aibolit,
The days of Russian girls looking for foreign men have long since passed. Being a foreign tourist in Moscow today is just as likely to be a liability as an asset, at least when it comes to hunting women. The girls on Mamba and other sites are pretty adept at sniffing out the wannabe's from the guys who are actually there on the ground and, therefore, actually stand a chance of being a customer, or maybe a boyfriend or sponsor.
So, yes, I'm afraid that if you can't establish a presence for yourself in Moscow and if you do not want to show your face, then you can pretty much write off the girls on Mamba. The only girls you will have a chance with are the strictly hard-core pros, who, will most likely be nothing more than a shill for the salons that you found so disappointing.
And since you would prefer to sleep at night, there really isn't much else for you to do.
I can't help but be curious: why go to Moscow if you want to sleep at night? Can't you do that at home?
[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1107974.
So, I registered on Mamba. Due to my need of being discrete, I didn't post my picture on my Mamba profile. The first thing I noticed about MAMBA after registering there is the need to get a "real" status by submitting your Russian phone number and then SMSing back what they send you to this number. I guess, this means that unless I'm in Russia and decide to give away my mobile number to MAMBA, I don't have a real chance to benefit from this site fully. Please correct me, gentlemen, if I'm wrong about this. If I'm not, this MAMBA experiment has started off the wrong foot.
Aibolit[/QUOTE]Any cell number around the world will do. Remember to include your country code. Of course.
Just my experience.
P13.
Passepartout
01-04-11, 08:53
I think Aibolit that your biggest issue is that you don't post picture. Imagine the girl who will receive many emails, why she would consider YOURS if you don't even put your picture? It destroyS 99% of your possibilities IMHO.
I recently used mamba, and I have only one problem: the girls don't accept to meet me at 12. 00 then at 16. 00: they all want to meet at 19. 00 so I don't have enough nights to meet all of them.
This is TOO easy by far, but probably because I live here and write in Russian to them (even with tons of mistake).
I think that the short-term visitor still can use these websites, as girls here may still find it funny to get a date with a foreigner.
To use Mamba properly:
- put pictures
- get by all means a Russian phone number, as it will cost a lot to diev to send you an SMS on your foreign phone number. At least say to them that you will have a Russian phone number as soon as you land in russia
- send your messages only few days before you come, no diev would plan 2 weeks in advance anything
- make clear you will pay the expenses ("I would like to invite you for a dinner") as I get many feed backs from many girls that foreigner are really looking at the expenses, much more than Russian men, and they are afraid to go somewhere with a foreigner and at the end hearing from you "we share the bill?"
- send messages to 10 girls to get 1 date.
- don't limit your selection to the outstanding and stuning 18 years old diev: your chances are not that high unless even in your country you got a lot of success. Try to adress the MILF market, the divorced wife in the age 25-35 where there is real gems who only need a 1 night fun when kids are with babouchka.
Hope it helped and have fun!
Dhalgren17
01-04-11, 09:27
Hello, all:
I've noticed an ad on the rusdosug (independent escorts) website for a gentleman's club called incognito. They are advertising girls for $60 per hour. Looks like they're located close to the White House. I was wondering if anyone had any personal knowledge about this club?
Thanks,
Dhalgren17
Strav. I don't go to Russia to hunt for girls, but for work. In other words, I have to be there and the girls are the desirable (but not by all means and at all costs) entertainment. I look fairly attractive, so getting to know freebies in a museum is still a possibility (Russian is not a problem for me). Yet, it's a distant one, given my chronic shortage of time and habit / preference of being approached, rather than the other way around. To sum up. I share your gloom, but partically. I thank you for the feedback though.
Pushkin. Many thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.
Passpartout. Thanks for the comment as well. Putting my picture on MAMBA is certainly intuitive, but I won't do it, as staying discrete is my top priority. I completely understand that not having a picture is not optimal. I was wondering if without a picture there is no way to make any progress on MAMBA. From your comments, it seems like it's a non-starter.
To sum up. So far the feedback is that MAMBA withoug putting one's picture is not a way to go. Salons are out. I may try Fabrique. I heard it's a nice club to meet young pretty things. I may also try intimcity. Ru for outcall. That way I'll have a lineup appear at my hotel and those I don't like I'll send home. Perhaps, this is a way to go in Russia for people like me who don't have time and want to stay discrete.
Best wishes to all. Aibolit
Chill Bill
01-07-11, 00:54
Hi. In the past, I was able to cut-and-paste the Russian cyrillic text in the messages I received. But at some point in time, that changed and I'm not able to do it anymore. Maybe this has been discussed, but I'd like to bump. For someone who needs the help of a translation site to communicate on Mamba, what is the strategy to get around this problem of not being able to cut-and-paste? Help!
Thanks!
JohnnyBcgn
01-07-11, 13:29
Hi. In the past, I was able to cut-and-paste the Russian cyrillic text in the messages I received. But at some point in time, that changed and I'm not able to do it anymore. Maybe this has been discussed, but I'd like to bump. For someone who needs the help of a translation site to communicate on Mamba, what is the strategy to get around this problem of not being able to cut-and-paste? Help!
Thanks! Hi Chill Bill,
You are still able to see&p. In my experience it works the way that I can see&p after I received the first two answers by the girl. Before that I just can see&p by opening the message window mark everything (CTRL+A) and then copy then copy everything.
Best,
Johnnybcgn
Chill Bill
01-07-11, 23:33
Ooops. Posted this question in the photos forum. Actually belongs here. Anyway, what is the average going rate in Moscow for an all nighter with a Mamba girl (maybe a 7 or 8 on a scale of 10)?
Chill Bill
01-08-11, 16:19
Hey guys. Another Mamba question. Seems like I hit some sort of profile view maximum of 200 as I was searching through the girls. Now, it seems, I'm stuck. Anyone ever run into this? How can that be lifted to unlimited if you are not in Russia?
MAMBA. Continued I endlessly urged mongers here eager to chase freebies on Russian or "East meet West" dating sites to first learn about Russian culture before. Russian women HATE sex-hungry tourists who solely intend to go to FSU to fuck girls, and are not even subtle about it. Being able to discuss about Bulgakov, Bunin or Lermontov to a Russian girl is (almost) a ticket to her panties. To read and be able to talk about classics like Master & Margarita (Bulgakov) , a novel that ALL Russians of all ages place at the Pantheon of literature, is the least to do. And to mention modern Russian authors like Pelevin or Sorokine, two of the most famous modern authors, is an even more boosting strategy. I've been accused of "sexual masturbation" with this statement by some culturally unaware woremogers on another thread, but ranting in a witty conversation with a Russian girl "Two citizens appeared at the Patriarchyi Prudy", which is the opening line of Master and Margarita and a phrase that all Russians know by heart, definitely wins you points and boost your position in a Russian girl eyes. Even Ukrainian girls, who put less emphasis in culture than Russians, appreciate much more culturally aware guys than sex-hungry with no clue about their culture.
Also keep in mind that mamba is spammed by millions of se-hungry guys. A hot girl can count on getting 100s of messages, winks, valentines, whatever, this every day. I'm not exagerating. One of my GF showed me her account one day. You HAVE to appear "different" and culturally aware.
I anyway find mamba a waste of time for "real" freebies. There's currently a "East meets West" paying site that is literally fabulous (which is not LL, that has gone downhill) , Prosal's garantee.
BTW, for those who look for easier targets, attractive MILF (25-40 yo) are available ad nauseum in FSU.
Nonetheless they are so easy to woo (with the right dose of game, cultural awareness, romantism and forwardness) , and sex is such a foregone conclusion after just a romantic diner (with drinks) , that it becomes almost anti-climatic.
One 32 yo (still very good-looking for me, but "just not that skanky by FSU standarts) single mom that was literally sexually starving (as most single moms in FSU, and they are millions) just got out of my apartment. Honestly, I personnaly don't find any glory to persuit this kind of affair. It's like playing a video game on the easiest level. Furthermore, the emotional commitment those women usually put in a relationship, even if it's only for a hot fling, is for me too heavy to carry.
But they are really easy preys, for who look this kind of things. And most are all charm, feminity, wittiness and indulgence, and with absolutly no materialistic expectations.
Just my two Hryvnas / Rubles / Soums / ect.
Nonetheless they are so easy to woo (with the right dose of game, cultural awareness, romantism and forwardness) , and sex is such a foregone conclusion after just a romantic diner (with drinks) , that it becomes almost anti-climatic. One 32 yo (still very good-looking for me, but "just not that skanky by FSU standarts) single mom that was literally sexually starving (as most single moms in FSU, and they are millions) just got out of my apartment. Honestly, I personnaly don't find any glory to persuit this kind of affair. Sounds like a kind of "after sex depression", sorry. She doesn't deserves that. She was hot and generous, and loved sex a bit rough and dirty with the right dose of emotions (as all FSU women).
Thanks Svetlana.
Stravinsky
01-11-11, 16:01
Prosal,
So, how long have you been talking to yourself? (I'd put a smilie in here, but they're not working.)
Prosal,
So, how long have you been talking to yourself? (I'd put a smilie in here, but they're not working.) Right (still with smile).
Admittedly, I get drunk and post shit of questionable relevancy at times (as those three last posts)!
That said, I was rather happy with the fuck I just had with Svetlana. And maintain that sexually starved attractive 25-40 yo single moms are available ad nauseum in FSU.)
Ok, a pic to apologize, and a bit of sun in this freezing winter. Charvak Lake, Tashkent)
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Strav.
Do you sometimes watch "Davai pozheminsya" ("Let's get marry", for the non Russian speakers, which is not your case) on Russian TV by the way?
Highly stupid, but highly enjoyable. And sometimes really hot girls, astonishingly (well, not so, for who knows FSU) still single!
Recommanded TV show indeed (smilie).
That said.
The statement that mamba is, to chase genuine FSU freebies, total shit (especially for ratio answers and profiles reliability and quality) compared another paying "East meets West" dating site (which once more is not LL) , is a pure fact.
And I'm rather happy to talk to myself about this goldmine (smilie). Keep on spamming mamba, guys. No problems! (smilie).
BTW, for those who look for easier targets, attractive MILF (25-40 yo) are available ad nauseum in FSU.
Nonetheless they are so easy to woo (with the right dose of game, cultural awareness, romantism and forwardness) , and sex is such a foregone conclusion after just a romantic diner (with drinks) , that it becomes almost anti-climatic.
One 32 yo (still very good-looking for me, but "just not that skanky by FSU standarts) single mom that was literally sexually starving (as most single moms in FSU, and they are millions) just got out of my apartment. Honestly, I personnaly don't find any glory to persuit this kind of affair. It's like playing a video game on the easiest level. Furthermore, the emotional commitment those women usually put in a relationship, even if it's only for a hot fling, is for me too heavy to carry.
But they are really easy preys, for who look this kind of things. And most are all charm, feminity, wittiness and indulgence, and with absolutly no materialistic expectations.
Just my two Hryvnas / Rubles / Soums / ect. I agree with Prosal. Been there, done that.
I have 2 problems with this approach. One is that it takes time. The second is the emotional damage you do to the girl when you cut-off the relationship.
Regards.
Stravinsky
01-13-11, 18:33
Do you sometimes watch "Davai pozheminsya" ("Let's get marry", for the non Russian speakers, which is not your case) on Russian TV by the way?
Highly stupid, but highly enjoyable. And sometimes really hot girls, astonishingly (well, not so, for who knows FSU) still single! I do watch the Russkii televisor, but my selection of shows is limited to what I can get here in the States. There's not much playing now that catches my attention. I did like Taksi and also Zolotaya Tyosha (the golden mother-in-law) but they are no longer being shown. You are right that most of the Russian TV shows have plenty of gorgeous babes, even in the most minor roles. Sometimes because they are minor roles. (smilie with a wink)
I have tried and tried to obtain real status on Mamba for weeks. Does anyone know the secret trick? Also I am not familiar with the abbreviation "FSU", is this another site? Any help would be appreciated. I have had a lot of luck on another free site for non-pros. I am not sure if I can put the name of the website here. I hope to make a trip to Russia this summer and partake in some of the beauty that I see here.
Thanks in advance!
RK
I have tried and tried to obtain real status on Mamba for weeks. Does anyone know the secret trick? Also I am not familiar with the abbreviation "FSU", is this another site? Any help would be appreciated. I have had a lot of luck on another free site for non-pros. I am not sure if I can put the name of the website here. I hope to make a trip to Russia this summer and partake in some of the beauty that I see here.
Thanks in advance!
RKFSU = former Soviet Union, sometimes referred to as Russia + the stans!
Hope that this helps.
Cheers.
P13
FSU = former Soviet Union, sometimes referred to as Russia + the stans! Russia + Belarus + Stans + Caucasus (Georgia, Azerbaidjan, Armenia, ect) + Baltic countries + Ukraine + Moldova.
FSU covered sixth of earth landmass (the Russian Empire was also almost that size by the way).
There was 250 distinct ethnic groups living in this part of the world (160 now just in Russia). That have mixed through the centuries. Mixes is the reason why the women are that beautiful in FSU.
HunterDave
01-16-11, 01:40
I have tried and tried to obtain real status on Mamba for weeks. Does anyone know the secret trick? Also I am not familiar with the abbreviation "FSU", is this another site? Any help would be appreciated. I have had a lot of luck on another free site for non-pros. I am not sure if I can put the name of the website here. I hope to make a trip to Russia this summer and partake in some of the beauty that I see here.
Thanks in advance!
RKRK,
You need your local phone number to get real status. You post your number and they send you a text email for you you to link to. Send us all here the other free site for non-pros. Share some info here with us all!
Hunter Dave
RK,
You need your local phone number to get real status. You post your number and they send you a text email for you you to link to. Send us all here the other free site for non-pros. Share some info here with us all!
Hunter DaveNot to be controversial, but you can a "real" status on mamba with a foreign number (at least with a european one).
Also to get VIP, or raise up your profile in the search lists, you just need to use your PayPal account. VIP for one month costs 3 virtual coins (about us$3) , and raising up profile only 1. Sending compliments (1 to 4 virtual coins each) could seem corny, stupid or useless, but it's IMO sometimes a good ice-breaker if the girl isn't flooded by compliments already, or a nice attention (therefore a position-booster) towards a girl you mesh well with.
That said, mamba is definitely not that great in term of answers ratio when your target is the "genuine" freebie (don't know about sponsorettes or pros). Too many sex-hungry foreigners spam it. Paying sites have a much better answers ratio. Nonetheless most of those sex-hungry foreigners are too stingy to pay 200 € per year (price for the great dating site I recommanded below) to meet quality FSU girls on internet. Too bad for those guys, and good for the others, the non-stingy breed of mongers.
pay 200 € per year (price for the great dating site I recommanded below) to meet quality FSU girls on internet.Which site is that Prosal?
In Moscow, which business hotel is best to book where there are plenty of girls to be found in the lobby or bar, to have some paid fun with?
In Moscow, which business hotel is best to book where there are plenty of girls to be found in the lobby or bar, to have some paid fun with?IMHO. The Sheraton has a nice selection of girls in the lobby and management seem to be pretty switched on. Also, the Hilton Leningradskaya has girls in the lobby bar but so far I have not seen any that really get me excited. If money is not object, then by all means go for the Ritz Carleton. The girls in the RoofTop bar are absolutely stunning but a little too rich for my blood. Down market there is the Cordston Hotel which, of course has it's own strip club attached.
RK,
You need your local phone number to get real status. You post your number and they send you a text email for you you to link to. Send us all here the other free site for non-pros. Share some info here with us all!
Hunter DaveThanks, for the replies. I have entered my number many times and have never gotten a reply with a link or code. I have tried various ways of entering my number but to no avail.
Also, thanks for the FSU explanation.
The website that I have had great luck with is (Mods delete if I break board rules, thanks) : Badoo. It is a free site to join and free to communicate.
I have had great results chatting with girls on this site and then getting to know them better on skype. I am compiling a nice list of non-pros if I can make it to Moscow this summer.
Thanks guys for all the info I have read and gathered over the years. I hope to be a able to give back at some point.
RK
LittleTruths
01-22-11, 11:08
RK,
You need your local phone number to get real status. You post your number and they send you a text email for you you to link to. Send us all here the other free site for non-pros. Share some info here with us all!
Hunter DaveIn my experience a foreign phone number works just fine, that is if you digit the country code properly of course.
Hi. In the past, I was able to cut-and-paste the Russian cyrillic text in the messages I received. But at some point in time, that changed and I'm not able to do it anymore. Maybe this has been discussed, but I'd like to bump. For someone who needs the help of a translation site to communicate on Mamba, what is the strategy to get around this problem of not being able to cut-and-paste? Help!
Thanks! You can still do that actually, but it seems to me you can only do it when the conversation window is active; for instance, right then when you receive the message it's no problem to select the cirillic and copy-paste it in the translation thingy, but, if you close the window and later on want to get back there wondering WTF was she talking about then you can't copy the text anymore.
Bottomline, you either do it straight away right then and there or never will. Such is life.
Bless
Escort Fan
01-23-11, 15:13
I'm about to go to Moscow soon. I haven't been there for at least five years.
I read the posts and it seems to local scene has changed a lot except for the good old NF.
I'd consider NF the easy option, the prices are quite high and the last time I went there, the quality had gone downhill (compared to 99!).
From the reports I understood quite well the strip club scene. Can someone do a list of the top 5 clubs with the prices of private dances and FS options.
But more importantly I'm curious about the internet scene which is not so well documented (except mamba. Ru).
I checked http://www.dosug.cz Which seems a nice site, has detailed info about services, metro location etc.
How reliable is this site? How to detect rip off? Are the reviews with the "trust rank" reliables?
I mut say I speak a little Russian so it can help.
But clearly as this period is so cold, I would like to go the easy way and organise an outcall at my hotel. So I probably need some info about a few reliable sites to make my pick.
Thanks in advance for the help. Even for me who has visited moscow five times between 98 & 2003 and speak some Russian I found myself quite lost seeing how fast this scene has evolved.
Cnocubo balchoi.
I'll hopefully have some nice reports to write when I'll be there!
I'm about to go to Moscow soon. I haven't been there for at least five years.
I read the posts and it seems to local scene has changed a lot except for the good old NF. Hi Escort Fan,
I was in Moscow a couple of weeks ago and had a miserable time! The weather was foul so I did not get out of the hotel much (Metropol). There were a few girls, but not very good looking, working the bar there, but prices have really shot up in the last year. They wanted Rb 10, 000/€ 300 for "two hours". I called a couple of agencies, but their prices were the same and they were not really interested in sending girls out to me (maybe because of the weather).
There is a nightclub in the hotel called the "Ripped Off Balls Club". 'This sounds interesting", I thought, but it was dead even at 11pm. So I flew back home and headed for a local place here where I can get 2 hours for half the Moscow price!
I hope you have better luck than me.
Escort Fan
01-25-11, 12:24
Hi Escort Fan,
I was in Moscow a couple of weeks ago and had a miserable time! The weather was foul so I did not get out of the hotel much (Metropol). There were a few girls, but not very good looking, working the bar there, but prices have really shot up in the last year. They wanted Rb 10, 000/€ 300 for "two hours". I called a couple of agencies, but their prices were the same and they were not really interested in sending girls out to me (maybe because of the weather).This is depressing. What to do at night in moscow then since all casinos are now closed.
Well I'm willing to pay 300€ and more for grade A girl (8+) with full service. I'm quite sure you can't (at least not easily) get premium sex with a premium girl unless you pay premium prices.
However, I'm also quite sure that paying premium prices doesn't guarantee premium sex (BBBJ, DFK, CIM and maybe A) with premium prices. Cf the hardened pros at NF.
Anyone with updated information on where and how to get premium services with premium girls at premium prices in moscow? .
Stravinsky
01-26-11, 06:28
Well I'm willing to pay 300€. . . I'm quite sure you can't (at least not easily) get premium sex with a premium girl unless you pay premium prices.300 Euro is a premium price?
Escort Fan
01-26-11, 16:26
300 Euro is a premium price?300 was the figure quoted by the previous poster who had some offers at his hotel.
I'd consider 300 per hour to be the price at which we can begin to talk about "premium".
In London the basic girls starts at 150£ per hour, the mid range girls are 200 or 25£ per hour, and the "elite" girls are 300, 400 or 500£ per h.
Compared to price on rusdog or intimacy. 300 euros (12, 000 Rub or so) per hour seems quite premium. The prices seems to range from 2500 to 5000 in most cases.
Keyword being "seems" as I haven't been in moscow for ages. Perharps someone has up to date information.
Let's anlayse the situation here. Hordes or russians girls are coming to London offering their (often full) services for 150 or 200£ per hour, so why is everyone struggling to find good service girls in Moscow!
This is depressing. What to do at night in moscow then since all casinos are now closed.
Well I'm willing to pay 300€ and more for grade A girl (8+) with full service. I'm quite sure you can't (at least not easily) get premium sex with a premium girl unless you pay premium prices.
However, I'm also quite sure that paying premium prices doesn't guarantee premium sex (BBBJ, DFK, CIM and maybe A) with premium prices. Cf the hardened pros at NF.
Anyone with updated information on where and how to get premium services with premium girls at premium prices in moscow?Hi Escort Fan,
Those two salons below are the most expensive and the second most expensive salon in Moscow.
I recommend you to try those salons.
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/sticker?id_country=50&id_city=1961&id_sticker=12848
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/sticker?id_country=50&id_city=1961&id_sticker=24693
Excepticus
01-27-11, 06:03
RK,
You need your local phone number to get real status. You post your number and they send you a text email for you you to link to. Send us all here the other free site for non-pros. Share some info here with us all!
Hunter DaveDear colleagues, I got my real subscription with a foreign mobile phone. Now I'm moving to moscow and have local one but didn't update it.
As it was done long time ago and they have refreshed the webpage could be that now you need a local one.
If talking about me. I input my foreign number. They sent a sms and that was all. No charges. Nothing. But that was quite a few months ago.
Escort Fan
01-27-11, 12:29
Hi Escort Fan,
Those two salons below are the most expensive and the second most expensive salon in Moscow.
I recommend you to try those salons.
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/sticker?id_country=50&id_city=1961&id_sticker=12848
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/sticker?id_country=50&id_city=1961&id_sticker=24693Thanks a lot for the information!
Can you tell me if DFK, BBBJ (and possibily A & CIM) are standard services?
At those prices I'd hope so.
I'd also hope at this price level the photos are accurate.
If the service is good I don't mind paying those prices!
Can you tell me more about the quality of the venue / room?
Do some of the girls speak english?
Is outcall possible?
Mark Darcy
01-29-11, 04:33
Can you tell me if DFK, BBBJ (and possibily A & CIM) are standard services?
At those prices I'd hope so.
I'd also hope at this price level the photos are accurate.
If the service is good I don't mind paying those prices! You must be joking, right?
At 20000 rubles an hour and 60000 rubles for overnighter, it's one zero too much.
And people are wondering why are girls in Moscow so expensive. Gentilemen, look no further, we have our answer right here.
Escort Fan
01-29-11, 17:04
You must be joking, right?
At 20000 rubles an hour and 60000 rubles for overnighter, it's one zero too much.
And people are wondering why are girls in Moscow so expensive. Gentilemen, look no further, we have our answer right here.Well, those "salons" seems to target local people, so somehow there must be a clientele in moscow who think those prices are right.
I expressed surprise right away when I wondered why russians girls would move to london to work at 150 or 200 £ per hour (30 to 50% of which are going to the agency) , when Moscow offer opportunities to work for 20, 000 R.
On a side note what is DFK service in cyrillic I don't understand which it is, while I understand "minet bez".
On a side note all russians offer "minet bez" in London or Paris, while in Moscow it seems to be quite rare! And for CIM even more rare in Moscow!
Another of my surprise is that with the heavy photoshopping I don't see much difference between the 20, 000 R and the 5, 000 R girls.
Stravinsky
01-30-11, 07:30
On a side note all russians offer "minet bez" in London or Paris, while in Moscow it seems to be quite rare! And for CIM even more rare in Moscow!Not really, минет без резины is not so unusual, but typically you will have to pay extra for it. Just as you will for анальный секс (anal).
Escort Fan
01-30-11, 08:35
Not really, минет без резины is not so unusual, but typically you will have to pay extra for it. Just as you will for анальный секс (anal).On putana. Ru &1048; &1089; &1087; &1086; &1083; &1100; &1079; &1086; &1074; &1072; &1085; &1080; &1077; &1087; &1088; &1077; &1079; &1077; &1088; &1074; &1072; &1090; &1080; &1074; &1072; : &1053; &1077; &1086; &1073; &1103; &1079; &1072; &1090; &1077; &1083; &1100; &1085; &1086; refers to BBBJ or BBFS?
Because it returns very few girls that have this service.
Also what is the Russian for DFK, it doesn't seem to be a listed service on most site, but then again my Russian is rusty.
1, 000 extra for BBBJ or A is ok, afterall I made 2, 000 miles to fuck those girls :)
Thanks a lot for the information!
Can you tell me if DFK, BBBJ (and possibily A & CIM) are standard services?
At those prices I'd hope so.
I'd also hope at this price level the photos are accurate.
If the service is good I don't mind paying those prices!
Can you tell me more about the quality of the venue / room?
Do some of the girls speak english?
Is outcall possible?I am sorry to inform you that I have not tried those salons yet.
Unlike the Night flight, those salons are not for foreigners but for Russian.
And, those have already existed for some time.
According to above-mentioned facts, I think girls in those salons are at least worth the price.
TriggerHappy
01-30-11, 19:56
Hi! I haven't been to Moscow in 5 years. Does anyone know how the street action / totchka situation is there now? How are the prices and where is it happening? Is Khimki still a hotspot for totchkamongering?
Passepartout
01-30-11, 21:54
I'd consider NF the easy option, the prices are quite high and the last time I went there, the quality had gone downhill (compared to 99!).
From the reports I understood quite well the strip club scene. Can someone do a list of the top 5 clubs with the prices of private dances and FS options.
But more importantly I'm curious about the internet scene which is not so well documented (except mamba. Ru).
I checked.
http://www.dosug.cz
Which seems a nice site, has detailed info about services, metro location etc.
How reliable is this site? How to detect rip off? Are the reviews with the "trust rank" reliables?
I mut say I speak a little Russian so it can help. 1. NF or Hotdog are your 2options if you want to go to a club where you got 50 girls working. High prices of course. Both got bad reputation now, even if my last try at HD was excellent. The key word here: chemistry with the girl
2. Strip club, you got 2 options: 19 and Aurora. The main difference between the 2 is that in 19, a girl is coming to offer you a dance (200/300 rur) everytime. In Aurora you can stay 30 minutes without a girl coming to you. Aurora is more classy as well. Sex is 8/10 000 rur for 30 mns in 19, 10 000 for 1 horu in aurora.
3. Internet: you can rely mainly on intimcity. Nl. Easy to spot the real girls: if they go out to visit you and take only girls with comments and pictures validated by mongers
Enjoy your time. With your small Russian, things should be easy
Against my better judgement, I went to HD last Thursday about 1:15 AM. Wow. What a sad night. Olga, the self appointed queen bee was there running the show as usual telling which girls to go over and talk to which guys. BTW. I had a BAD experience with Olga and literally THREW her out of my apartment a few years ago. She recognized me after about 15 minutes and started sending the goblins over. . I guess it has come back to haunt me. Oh well, those are the breaks. But generally, the quality was low and the prices were high. I keep saying this and I break my vow ever time but,"That's the last time I am going to go to HD". (ha ha ha ha ha)
Also, I called a girl off of Rusdosug. Com. Very good session. Although she's not quite as young as her pictures, she's a good service provider. I won't say how much I paid because the girls all advertise their prices on rusdosug, but I will say that once you get them on the phone they will negotiate. Also, this particular girl showed BBBJ as off limits but was more that happy to slurp away to her heart's content with no condom. She actually asked me which I preferred (CBJ or BBBJ) so these girls want to be in control of what they provide based on an "onsite inspection". Smart business practice I suppose.
In Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk today. Will checkout the disco in the hotel tonight and give you guys a report. I was so jet lagged yesterday that I went to bed at 9 PM. I did manage a beer in the hotel lobby bar and saw some VERY promising talent.
Escort Fan
01-31-11, 00:36
On putana. Ru &1048; &1089; &1087; &1086; &1083; &1100; &1079; &1086; &1074; &1072; &1085; &1080; &1077; &1087; &1088; &1077; &1079; &1077; &1088; &1074; &1072; &1090; &1080; &1074; &1072; : &1053; &1077; &1086; &1073; &1103; &1079; &1072; &1090; &1077; &1083; &1100; &1085; &1086; refers to BBBJ or BBFS?
Because it returns very few girls that have this service.
Also what is the Russian for DFK, it doesn't seem to be a listed service on most site, but then again my Russian is rusty.
1,000 extra for BBBJ or A is ok, afterall I made 2, 000 miles to fuck those girls. Somehow the cyrillic copy / paste didn't work.
I enquired about "Izpolzovanie preservativa : nie obyazatelno" (means wearing condom isn't mandatory)
Does that refer only to minet (BJ) or also FS?
(bareback police please don't shoot me, I'm just trying to understand and evaluate the situation!)
Stravinsky
01-31-11, 06:21
Against my better judgement, I went to HD last Thursday about 1:15 AM. I keep saying this and I break my vow ever time but,"That's the last time I am going to go to HD"Let's see, what do they call it when you keep doing the same thing over and over again and keep expecting a different result each time?
Don't they call that insanity?
Looking forward to your report on Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk!
CastOnThis
01-31-11, 17:12
1. NF or Hotdog are your 2options if you want to go to a club where you got 50 girls working. High prices of course. Both got bad reputation now, even if my last try at HD was excellent. The key word here: chemistry with the girl
2. Strip club, you got 2 options: 19 and Aurora. The main difference between the 2 is that in 19, a girl is coming to offer you a dance (200/300 rur) everytime. In Aurora you can stay 30 minutes without a girl coming to you. Aurora is more classy as well. Sex is 8/10 000 rur for 30 mns in 19, 10 000 for 1 horu in aurora.
3. Internet: you can rely mainly on intimcity. Nl. Easy to spot the real girls: if they go out to visit you and take only girls with comments and pictures validated by mongers
Enjoy your time. With your small Russian, things should be easyHave you been to the Strip club Penthouse? Anything, anyone?
QUOTE=Castonthis; 1118429]Have you been to the Strip club Penthouse? Anything, anyone? [/QUOTE]Have often been to Penthouse. It still has a good atmosphere but the girls are not as ex-pat friendly as they used to be.
Entrance is R. 1000, drinks are reasonably priced. When it first opened it was similar to Safari Lodge with the girls all over you for R. 100. They offered private dances but I have never bothered. Screwed a black chick here some time ago. The rooms downstairs and very comfortable. Room cost R. 3000 and the chick R. 7000.
However on my last visits have noticed that we are being ignored by most of the girls. They prefer Russian company as I assume that they are paying much more. I will talk the the management about this and post the details later.
Still a good place to visit!
Hey guys. Another Mamba question. Seems like I hit some sort of profile view maximum of 200 as I was searching through the girls. Now, it seems, I'm stuck. Anyone ever run into this? How can that be lifted to unlimited if you are not in Russia?Advanced limit (100 contacts) can be activated for 24 hours. It costs one virtual coin (1us$) from your account.
Gentlemen,
I'm in Moscow and ready to play. If anyone is interested to keep me company. Please PM me. I can speak both English and Russian equally well.
Best. Aibolit.
Just visited few places in Moscow. Visited Koyote Ugly and Real McCoy. The first was very packed and entrace was 500 rubles. Great party atmosphere. As I rely solely on verbal communication and it was loud, me and my company left shortly. Real McCoy was similar to KU, but more space and free. Something, perhaps, to repeat another day.
I did discover a great place that wasn't discussed on this forum. The name of it is Luch. It's on the Pirogova street, where all the medical schools are. This place is an elite one, but very nice atmosphere. The bar on the first floor is packed with stunning women, but my friend told me they are all working. Like NF but more reasonable. The spaces that are not the bar are packed with beautiful looking people as well and, appartently, people on occasion ask permission to sit with the dievs who come without the male company.
More reports are likely to come.
Best,
Aibolit
Visiting moscow at the end on the month. Need some advise about girl / guest friendly hotels. Checking the following hotels with reasaonable prices: Izmailovo Gamma Delta Hotel Moscow, Izmailovo Vega Hotel Moscow & Izmailovo Alfa Hotel Moscow. Any advise of those hotels or any similar pricing hotels who are girl / guest friendly will be very much appreciated.
I hate going through the hustle of bribing security & being harassed by some body guards.
Stravinsky
02-06-11, 17:15
Aibolit,
Do you get faced at Luch? What's the entry?
I've been there for dinner, not lunch. No entry fee, but early reservation was required. Prices are relatively high, as this is an "elitni" place apparently. My friend told me that "most girls standing near the bar will go home with you for few hundred $". Some of them looked quite hot and did eye the public in a way that made me think that my friend knows what he's talking about. The ladies seated on both levels are just to socialize and are not for sale (if there is such a thing in Russia). Some of them were stunning also. I was told the a stunning model in the corner was accompanying a relatively well-known banking oligarch.
Hope this helps.
Aibolit,
Do you get faced at Luch? What's the entry?
And yes, we were faced, but nothing serious. We told the guards that we have a reservation. So, no much of a serious problem. We did get stopped at Denis Simachev bar, as they required us to be "on a list".
Aibolit,
Do you get faced at Luch? What's the entry?
Visiting moscow at the end on the month. Need some advise about girl / guest friendly hotels. Checking the following hotels with reasaonable prices: Izmailovo Gamma Delta Hotel Moscow, Izmailovo Vega Hotel Moscow & Izmailovo Alfa Hotel Moscow. Any advise of those hotels or any similar pricing hotels who are girl / guest friendly will be very much appreciated.
I hate going through the hustle of bribing security & being harassed by some body guards. Riku,
These hotels are all outside the center. Slowly, they are being renovated but still a little rough. I went inside Izmailovo Delta last summer. Or was it Gamma? I forget which, but it was the one closest to discount center. Anyhow I went in looking for aBankomat and pleasantly surprised how well they had renovated the lobby. But rooms? No idea. I have heard these hotels are NOT what you might call guest friendly unless you are bring up one of THEIR girls. Otherwise you are required to go through the hassle. All of the Western hotel chains are pretty guest friendly although the security at the Sheraton and the Renaissance can get pissy from time to time.
Good luck.
IMHO you would better off to rent a serviced apartment nearer the center if you are on a budget.
And yes, we were faced, but nothing serious. We told the guards that we have a reservation. So, no much of a serious problem. We did get stopped at Denis Simachev bar, as they required us to be "on a list".Yes, Luch is very cool indeed. But it's a bit too "beautiful" for my taste. I was there in October and was blown away with the whisky selection but the prices blew me away equally. Although, I must say, they had a few very rare whiskies that they priced quite reasonably so who knows?
As far as the girls went, I must be too much of a troll to be hit on. Unlike NF or HD, these girls were not "out there" broadcasting availability. But then, I suppose Luch is not trying be that sort of place. I have heard about a few guys that have taken freebies out of there, however, these are party girls looking for sponsorships or at very least to have gifts showered upon them. Too much attitude for my taste.
Alfa, Delta and Gamma are nearly fully renovated and offer a wide set of services you might not even imagine. All in the area, form cafes to restaurant a good sushi to casino or fitness, sauna, massage, pool, bowling, or whatever, even a real post office and some banks and change. '$/'$ bars and restaurants of course, some expensive some cheap.
As in every 'soviet' style hotel you can book different 'level' rooms some are ugly (un renovated since 1979 or so) , but most are clean and nice, no luxury, but even suites with PC, printers fridges, tea water etc. There are shops, pharmacies, (Viagra, Cialis etc) in the lobbies and surroundings. Mind that all you buy inside the hotel is a little bit more expensive than outside.
Then you have (Sat-Sun 09-17) the Vernissage, or the food and general marked behind it (where you get fabulous shashlik, grilled meat, mostly lamb.) one of the most fascinable parts of the 'real' Moscow.
Just 25 minutes metro from red Square on the blue line.
Girl Friendly?
If you follow the normal 'soviet' procedures ho problem.
I just take a double room for two and just register my girl friend when I arrive: No hassle, no problem and safe (of course she has to carry an I'd). When I arrive (directly from the airport) she is usually waithing me at the bar in the lobby.
Otherwise up to 11. 00 pm you can get guest up to your room, of course they will be registered at the small desk beside the lift block. At 11. 30 pm or so somebody will knack at your door and tell you your guest (s) has to go. Simply handle over a 1000 RUR note. (2. 000 if you are doing a threesome) and nobody will disturb you any more.
I have been there more than 20 times, with all types of girls, never had problems. Of course the security has own ones, mostly in Delta-Gamma. Ugly run down 30-40 whyear old asking for 100-1500 USD / hour (crazy!) , and the girls making lap dance at the Alpha Night Club usually are really (unbelievable) only doing lap. No sex!
Eating suggestion:
- At the 1 st floor of Alpha there is a cozy Caucasian restaurant, small, and hard to find, good food. Same at the lobby floor of the Delta Gamma, in the middle.
- If you buy a room without breakfast, choose the breakfast at 2nd floor Gamma / Delta biggest choice and you can eat all you want. Even a 10 egg omelet
- On the way to the Partizansakaya metro there is a Sushi bar, small one, good and fresh. (the one on the right side toward the station not the opposite one in an independent house!) same for the Russian fast food in front of the station.
- In the two storey small commercial centre beside the metro you can buy all you need for self catering.
- Avoid the Caviar (black one) , most in the shops is fake, the red one is ok. (some real can be found in the mall, but other Moscow markets are better.
Sexy suggestion:
- In the Gamma-Delta lobby they are selling condoms Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, on the Apoteka on the way to the metro also.
- In front of the Vega, behind the normal shops there is a Sex shop (INTIM in Russian) Cash only, has the most you need. Sexy clothes (made for pros) and incredible shoes can be brought in the small mall near the metro.
Just my two cents having been there so many times.
ATM delivering roubles or USD (some only) alsmost everywhere in the lobbies, in some big shops, in the metro station, in the small shopping mall, best change near the jewellery towards the station on the right side (avoid changing in the Lobby exchange)...
Telephone: use hotel ones, give a deposit and it will bee very cheab for local or mobile calls for the girls and to your homr, or go to a desk and rent a local one...
IT
PS the pics atre all from the Delta Gamma 1st/business rooms... and you can see what you can do inside....
LAST MY PERSONAL OPINION...
The hotel is perfect for Long Time sponsorettes you get on mamba or love... teens or young twenties never been anywhere... Took there a lot.... some are really excited to be in a big hotel... (non pro ones of course)...
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Visiting moscow at the end on the month. Need some advise about girl / guest friendly hotels. Checking the following hotels with reasaonable prices: Izmailovo Gamma Delta Hotel Moscow, Izmailovo Vega Hotel Moscow & Izmailovo Alfa Hotel Moscow. Any advise of those hotels or any similar pricing hotels who are girl / guest friendly will be very much appreciated.
I hate going through the hustle of bribing security & being harassed by some body guards.
Some of you may already have heard but Chesterfield's is BACK! For those who do not recognize the name, Chesterfield's is the name of the restaurant bar that eventually became Doug & Marty's Boarhouse and ow HotDog's. My understanding is that Doug (among others) has reopened Chesterfields at 19 Novy Arbat on the site of Angrara.
www.chester-bar.ru
Judging from the promos, It seems that they are trying to re-create the days of old. It will be interesting to see if they can attract the pros and semi-pros with the program. Have not made it over yet but keen on checking it out. Leaving for Krasnoyarsk tomorrow evening so it will have to wait until I get back. Just another development in the rapidly changing face of Moscow.
Stravinsky
02-09-11, 05:17
It always looks so nice in the pictures. And then you walk in, and realize what a dive it is.
It always looks so nice in the pictures. And then you walk in, and realize what a dive it is.Not this time Strav. Angara (which only closed at year end) was a VERY nice place. I was there last on December 12th. It's not remotely possible that the place would have deteriorated in such a short time.
Not this time Strav. Angara (which only closed at year end) was a VERY nice place. I was there last on December 12th. It's not remotely possible that the place would have deteriorated in such a short time.I was there on the opening night and we all agreed that the place has potential. Enormous bar, good choice of beer (Uk & US) and reasonable service.
Doug is behind the re-incarnation and I believe that its going to become a good place with the normal countdown Mondays, ladies nights etc. Just a few women last Friday but disturbing was a small table of senior pros who I hope are not there to fix the prices etc. From what I believe the idea is to keep the place much more open so it should not deteriorate to HotDogs standard.
I anyway find mamba a waste of time for "real" freebies. There's currently a "East meets West" paying site that is literally fabulous (which is not LL, that has gone downhill) , Prosal's garantee.Will you tell me which site is that please?
AColonizer
02-13-11, 16:08
I have found these interesting advertisements:
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=27415&gid=35379
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=12835&gid=7021
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=19725&gid=31137
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=24276&gid=27810
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=28911&gid=42052
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=23185&gid=43536
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=19161&gid=38413
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=27637&gid=39673
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/ru/girl?sid=1565&gid=7411
Who wants to go there to see those girls? Do they exist? Who wants to try them?
Of course, everything is negotiable, services and prices are for beginners.
Jake 993 + It Travel.
Thanks for the advise much appreciated. Any recommendations for gues friendly hotels in the center of moscow, maybe Arabat ot Tverskaya area? Thanks in advance for your usual support.
Jake 993 + It Travel.
Thanks for the advise much appreciated. Any recommendations for gues friendly hotels in the center of moscow, maybe Arabat ot Tverskaya area? Thanks in advance for your usual support. Frankly speaking I never stay in the central area. Totally wasted money. 4-5 even 600 USD for a room!
I take the Metro for 50 cents and get in to the Red Square or anywhere in Moscow. So.
But I mist say that the crisis afforded Moscow too so you can find intesting cheap options at other areas but the centre is still crazy mostly over 300 € for a room. I prefert to put them on a nice blondinka. .
IT
PS the most crazy is the Ritz, on the place of the former Intourist, from 2000 € for a normal room to 7.500 for a suite (I hope it's girlfiendly, may be you find directly a blondinka in the bed!)
That said, mamba is definitely not that great in term of answers ratio when your target is the "genuine" freebie (don't know about sponsorettes or pros). Too many sex-hungry foreigners spam it.Have to re-evaluate my thoughts about mamba, as long as it concerms girls that live abroad (outside Russia). Those past two weeks in Paris, I dated 7 girls from the site, scored 4, the others is only a question of time. A 35 yo professional holding a travel agency specialized in Russian clientele, a 28 yo Armenian designer in fancy women outfits, a 20 yo from Kursk diplomed in agronomy, a 22 yo Moldovian speaking 6 languages, a 19 yo from Omsk, a 24 yo stripper from Piter fond of french culture and studying french language for three months at Sorbonne, a 25 yo Ukrainian working for a private jet company, ect. An important budget in dinning, drinking and Cialis, but definitely worth it.
Mamba is definitely good for meeting Russian girls living in your city of residence, as long as you stand out in the crowd of men that contact them, are witty enough in your chit-chat, dress fancy for the meetings, have a bit of cash, live confortably in a good area, and can hold conversations about Russian culture (a VERY important point).
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BTW
Dressing fancy is admittedly a very very important point to score Russian women.
Slavic girls are some of the most fashion-conscious women on earth. And are VERY good at gauging what you wear. Fake and cheap gets you nowhere. It's a turn-off for 99% of the girls. Style and clothes are more important than looks for them (unlike latinas). Looks help undoubtedly, but it really isn't a central theme with Slavic girls.
Bought this winter a Zilli black cashmere and black mink coat that is a true killer (a very sophisticated Russian woman I met this week admitted that she made her first opinion about me from it). Success guaranteed.
slavic girls are some of the most fashion-conscious women on earth. and are very good at gauging what you wear. fake and cheap gets you nowhere.never a truer word spoken. i bought a canali suit a few months back and somehow, a few girls have been able to sneak a peek at the label and 3 different girsl have commented on it. go figure. i have a bogner polo shirt that (i got for 75% off) i reserve exclusively for wear in moscow.
Luckystar24
02-14-11, 06:37
BTW
Dressing fancy is admittedly a very very important point to score Russian women.
Slavic girls are some of the most fashion-conscious women on earth. And are VERY good at gauging what you wear. Fake and cheap gets you nowhere. It's a turn-off for 99% of the girls. Style and clothes are more important than looks for them (unlike latinas). Looks help undoubtedly, but it really isn't a central theme with Slavic girls.
Bought this winter a Zilli black cashmere and black mink coat that is a true killer (a very sophisticated Russian woman I met this week admitted that she made her first opinion about me from it). Success guaranteed. Any comments on how Russian women would respond to a refined, polished person of color (black, indian, etc.). Assume top calibre style and charisma. Interested to hear your opinion.
Sometime I really go off the traditional petite skinny girl (like Valentina or so) because I had some and few nice experiences with softies. I mean young full figured girls let's say in the proportion 160 x 60 kgs or 170 65/67 kgs (Sveta was one in Moscow giving wonderful BBBJ + CIM + Swallowing as a wake up. Really nice). Usually they are less wanted than skinny model types so they put more energy, and some time the GFE is really wonderful (always wet and horny).
Just found one in Moscow and on ground I will be soon there. She is quite expensive, but seems a goddess of softies. I just wonder if somebody has already tried her. In any case I really can't imagine a cow girl ride with those watermelons. And she is even a redhead!
Nearly perfect:
http://flirt.com.ua/nisa_2/
21/157/61 / DDD cups, red and pale white skin. Soft and juicy.
If you drilled her please follow up. I'm afraid she might be like a log in bed and waste my $$$$
IT
Dude, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you are going to have your work cut out for you. Generally speaking, Russians are about as racially prejudiced as they come. Sorry to offend our Russian brethren, but you guys know I am right.
Having said that, I do recall a hot Russian babe once telling me that she would like to fuck a black guy. And I am pretty sure she was serious too. So I would guess that for those who are into it, you will attract them like flies to honey. For those who are not absolutely into it. Not so much. Hope you do not take offense at my candor.
In any case I really can't imagine a cow girl ride with those watermelons.Hey IT,
Better bring your American Football helmet for protection!
Dude, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you are going to have your work cut out for you. Generally speaking, Russians are about as racially prejudiced as they come. Sorry to offend our Russian brethren, but you guys know I am right.Seconded.
As a side note, Uzbekistan women seem, in this respect, much more tolerant and open minded than Russian women are. Uzbekistan is a place which is ethnically incredibly diverse and the people there have to get along. A person of color would certainly feel more confortable in Tashkent than in Novossibirsk. That said, to answer to Luckystar, top caliber style, dressing refinement and charisma takes you far wherever in the world, whatever your skin color, this including in Russia I think.
Hey IT,
Better bring your American Football helmet for protection! But I can take my motorcycle helmet!
I must say surely not in the ordinary beauty parameters. Tall skinny, blonde, etc etc, but Se will work on me like a 20mg Cialis. Can't imagine a titfuck with facial endup! WOW!
My doubt is just she is like a log in the bed, I found some pros just opening the legs. And on ground she is a pro not a sponsorette.
IT
i bought a canali suit a few months back and somehow, a few girls have been able to sneak a peek at the label and 3 different girsl have commented on it. go figure.cool and expensive clothes = success in life = power = sex. it's a fact of life in this part of the world. for a russian woman, a "real" man must be (or at least must seem) successful in life.
they themselves always love to dress to the tens (not only to impress, but also to seduce) , and anything less than a correspondingly well-groomed guy is not a guy worth fucking.
the expensive watch is also magnet for girls. as the optical glasses if you wear some. recently bought a 600€ frame (+ glasses) dita statesman model, and as for your canali suit, all the russian girls i've met have commented on it. winner.
Luckystar24
02-14-11, 15:52
Dude, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you are going to have your work cut out for you. Generally speaking, Russians are about as racially prejudiced as they come. Sorry to offend our Russian brethren, but you guys know I am right.
Having said that, I do recall a hot Russian babe once telling me that she would like to fuck a black guy. And I am pretty sure she was serious too. So I would guess that for those who are into it, you will attract them like flies to honey. For those who are not absolutely into it. Not so much. Hope you do not take offense at my candor. Thank you for the frankness. No offense taken.
Like everyone else, I the like to go to a place where the environment would be enjoyable and hospitable, regardless of the sex appeal of the local women. Russian women are, of course, incredibly beautiful. But the racial elements have always seemed like an impediment.
i received a lesson on this within an hour of my arrival into moscow. i picked up a taxi from the approved maffia stand at the airport."tony soprano", the driver, new a few english words and was eager to converse. while driving me into town, he noticed an african male in a car accident. he went into a winded speech as to how there is no politically correct in russia and they use the "n" word directly with people of african heritage.
On a recent cold cold wintery night we gathered a group of men in need to search for warm women.
Ending up spending way too much time (and not only time) at Penthouse and Aurora 911.
These are both high end (expensive) strip clubs with full service available in private rooms.
The quality of girls and bar service at both places is very high.
I've talked to a number of girls that have confirmed both clubs have the same owner and the girls do switch between one and the other. Prices are close if not identical at both.
Applies to both clubs:
- 1 hour of sex in the on site rooms. 12, 000 rubles including the room charge.
- Personal dance at your chair, touching allowed, tip to the girl 100 to 300 rubles. Good value, full nudity.
- Private dance in another room for one song. 1000 rubles. Basically the same thing you get back at your chair with a little more grinding. Terrible value IMHO.
- Most but not all of the girls are available for sex.
- The club doesn't like girls freelancing but if you ask correctly and are discrete you can get a girls number for home service another time.
The quality of the girls in both clubs is stunning. They're both the kind of place you walk in and just shake your head and smile. I've taken a girl a few times at Aurora and while expensive it's always been a very good experience. Plus you get a full preview / sampling / interview in the club before you make your choice.
Personally I think Aurora puts on a better show (a fantastic show) , has friendlier girls, and a layout that is better suited to mixing with the girls and having dances at your table / chair. I loved it a year ago. I love it now. I've been to strip clubs in MANY countires and I must say this is one of the best. Is there any better in Moscow?
Will be in Moscow for a few weeks.
Interested in meeting up with anyone that shares a charitable interest in supporting hard working girls with great tits.
Personally I think Aurora puts on a better show (a fantastic show) , has friendlier girls, and a layout that is better suited to mixing with the girls and having dances at your table / chair. I loved it a year ago. I love it now. I've been to strip clubs in MANY countires and I must say this is one of the best. Is there any better in Moscow?I sure don't think so. I "date" a girl who works at 911 occasionally and she commented that the Penthouse format is designed for foreigners. What does that mean? Not sure. But I will say that the "Flag Dance" and the girls up on the platforms at 911 are hard to beat. To quote our dearly departed brother Dr. Skank,"How could you NOT like this".
I am in Krasnoyarsk at the moment and got to experience two of their strip clubs and I must say, it's not even close. I will post a report on the Other Areas section to as not to pollute the Moscow section with errata. Heading back to Moscow tomorrow night and I must say I AM looking forward to groping nekked girls with big hooters for 100. 300 Rubles a handful.
Udachi
Luckystar24
02-16-11, 15:43
Seconded.
As a side note, Uzbekistan women seem, in this respect, much more tolerant and open minded than Russian women are. Uzbekistan is a place which is ethnically incredibly diverse and the people there have to get along. A person of color would certainly feel more confortable in Tashkent than in Novossibirsk. That said, to answer to Luckystar, top caliber style, dressing refinement and charisma takes you far wherever in the world, whatever your skin color, this including in Russia I think. I have followed your exploits in Uzbekistan with interest, Prosal. The problem is I have a thing for blondes, and I m unsure Uzbekistan has the quality and abundance of such. I ve been spoiled by all my Scandinavian freebies and am now particular about the quality of women. Given your criteria of style, refinement, and charisma, I feel I fit the bill. I ve done well in every other country I ve been to. But Russia does remain a unique beast.
Personally I think Aurora puts on a better show (a fantastic show) , has friendlier girls, and a layout that is better suited to mixing with the girls and having dances at your table / chair. I loved it a year ago. I love it now. I've been to strip clubs in MANY countires and I must say this is one of the best. Is there any better in Moscow?I forgot to mention that last time at Aurora 911 there was two absolutely gorgeous barbie twins working together. These girls were stunning blonds and an exact copy of each other. Anyone spend time with them?
Passepartout
02-17-11, 07:24
Went yesterday to club 19.
As usual, your are hassled by girls for dance at your place for 200 rubles (you can give more if you like). I personally like very much when I don't have to wait between 2 dances. But some people feel a little bit under pressure as you can't even discuss with your buddy, girls don't stop coming to dance for you.
I usually do not have sex in this place, I go there only to see and touch boobs, and dream, the time of a song.
Yesterday a tall blond girl, after a dance, offered me to go to room, I declined as I was not in the mood as I told. OK.
When I left the club, she called me as I was passing through, asked some direct questions (you live in moscow, alone or not, etc.) and then said to me straight "take my phone number, so we can meet outside, go to restaurant, cinema, and then at your place for the night."
Lucky me!
I already told it here, but it is absolutely amazing the ratio of phone numbers and then free occasional dates I get, on the total number of visit to strip club I did.
I already told it here, but it is absolutely amazing the ratio of phone numbers and then free occasional dates I get, on the total number of visit to strip club I did.Having a stripper as a regular "fuck-buddy" is a very good position in that even if you go to a non-pro disco or have a date with a non-pro and say don't get any that night, you always have your stripper to fall back on in the morning.
Did it in Chisinau, with a nice and rather hot girl working in Bacardi Club. She would get off of work at 5am, SMSed to see if I was alone, and if I was, would go to my apartment, down one beer or two, talk a bit, bang me, sleep till noon, and then leave. No questions asked. No materialistic expectations. Talk about a nice situation. Had the same kind of experience in Tashkent.
As you say, many opportunities with strippers in FSU, as long as you treat them nicely and have some "game". The Chisinau stripper (from her Book) :
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Having a stripper as a regular "fuck-buddy" is a very good position in that even if you go to a non-pro disco .......As you say, many opportunities with strippers in FSU, as long as you treat them nicely and have some "game". ]Could not agree with you more. After being treated like a piece of meat all night, these girls often respond VERY well to a little bit of nice treatment. These girls are not looking for money as much as they are looking for a little personal attention.
Could not agree with you more. After being treated like a piece of meat all night, these girls often respond VERY well to a little bit of nice treatment. These girls are not looking for money as much as they are looking for a little personal attention.Admittedly, even if respect, kindness and game are important to score strippers, the fact is that usually those girls live in tiny apartments, often with their family, in nameless outskirts commieblocks with entryways and elevators that smell [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and cold beer. My Chisinau stripper was happy to leave for a while, for a confortable sleep in my place, the 50 square meters where she lived with her mom, dad (alcoholic) , sister, brother-in-law and nephew. Gloomy.
Admittedly, even if respect, kindness and game are important to score strippers, the fact is that usually those girls live in tiny apartments, often with their family, in nameless outskirts commieblocks with entryways and elevators that smell [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and cold beer. My Chisinau stripper was happy to leave for a while, for a confortable sleep in my place, the 50 square meters where she lived with her mom, dad (alcoholic) , sister, brother-in-law and nephew. Gloomy.Well, if you are going to put it THAT way then we should ALL be trying to help these poor girls get a good night's sleep away from their families in their "Kruschovkas".
Well, if you are going to put it THAT way then we should ALL be trying to help these poor girls get a good night's sleep away from their families in their "Kruschovkas".Right on. It's our duty. (smiley)
Another pleasurable night in Aurora. I would shortlist this with some good German FKK's as one of the best experiences (quality of girls, overall atmosphere) in the world.
For those that have enjoyed Aurora, what other places (strip club or brothel) in Moscow or the world you say are just as good or better?
Another pleasurable night in Aurora. I would shortlist this with some good German FKK's as one of the best experiences (quality of girls, overall atmosphere) in the world.
For those that have enjoyed Aurora, what other places (strip club or brothel) in Moscow or the world you say are just as good or better? Penthouse Club. After that it's a bit of a drop in quality to some of the others.
My Chisinau stripper was happy to leave for a while, for a confortable sleep in my place, the 50 square meters where she lived with her mom, dad (alcoholic) , sister, brother-in-law and nephew. Gloomy.Would not compare Moscow and Chisinau)
Member #2096
02-23-11, 15:39
Well I am already in Moscow now for two weeks and tried some of the websites recommended like intimcity and rosdosug. However as soon as I speak English they hang up. Seems that you need to speak Russian for these sites. Even if they advertise with English speaking they do not speak it.
The girls in HD are still there and nowadays the prics are 12000 Rub for the night. The same girls there already for 5 years and they all have a high milage. Nowadays the girls need to pay 2000 to get into HD and the management does not allow any girl to go below 10000.
I met some nice pros in La Cantina and they asked for 8000-10000 for the night. I guess this is about the minimum you can get as a foreigner who does not speak a word of Russian.
I see some very low prices on some of the websites but was never able to contact them. Some is also incall but it is impossible for a foreigner to find any address in Moscow. Apartments do not have numbers on them and I would never find any address. The only way to get there is to call while you are in the taxi and then let the taxi driver talk to the while driving. I also think it is a bit dangerous to go to a place somewhere alone where no security or something.
Websites like girls-students offer beautiful girls on the photos but the real girls they have are not even close looking to the photos. They ask for about 7000 Rub per hour + taxi. Service from them is good but of course expensive.
Any tips where to get good pros or freebies. Everybody says that Russian girls are easy but I do not think so. In the pubs where foreigners come and some English speaking girls come there are a lot of guys looking for freebies and the girls know it. You are more likely to end up paying all drinks for them and then still go home alone. I Russia it is not more easy then in Europe if you are an ordinary guy in his mid 40's and not rich.
Any Ideas.
Peter
Would not compare Moscow and Chisinau)Do not judge books by their covers in this part of the world. Be it in Kish or in Moscow. A girl can wear D&G jeans, Louboutin heels and a Prada top (real stuff) and can be very beautiful but will go back every night to her shitty soviet apartment in a nameless commieblock far in the suburbs.
And those who don't live in ugly suburbs but near the center often share a tiny apartment with two or three people. A very small percentage of glam girls have comfortable lives.
Stravinsky
02-24-11, 18:19
Russia it is not more easy then in Europe if you are an ordinary guy in his mid 40's and not rich.If you are a foreign tourist who doesn't speak Russian, then you're pretty much walking around with a big target on your back.
Try fantasys,
www.fantasys.org.
They don't speak English any better than the rest, but they won't hang up the phone just because you do. They are located in the center of town, near Pushkinskaya metro. Find the big statue of Pushkin and make your call from there. If business is slow enough, they will send someone out to retrieve you. Service is good and prices are around 4, 000 rubles.
Your only other option would be the FKK clubs in Germany or Vienna.
Well I am already in Moscow now for two weeks and tried some of the websites recommended like intimcity and rosdosug. However as soon as I speak English they hang up. Seems that you need to speak Russian for these sites. Even if they advertise with English speaking they do not speak it.
The girls in HD are still there and nowadays the prics are 12000 Rub for the night. The same girls there already for 5 years and they all have a high milage. Nowadays the girls need to pay 2000 to get into HD and the management does not allow any girl to go below 10000.
I met some nice pros in La Cantina and they asked for 8000-10000 for the night. I guess this is about the minimum you can get as a foreigner who does not speak a word of Russian.
I see some very low prices on some of the websites but was never able to contact them. Some is also incall but it is impossible for a foreigner to find any address in Moscow. Apartments do not have numbers on them and I would never find any address. The only way to get there is to call while you are in the taxi and then let the taxi driver talk to the while driving. I also think it is a bit dangerous to go to a place somewhere alone where no security or something.
Websites like girls-students offer beautiful girls on the photos but the real girls they have are not even close looking to the photos. They ask for about 7000 Rub per hour + taxi. Service from them is good but of course expensive.
Any tips where to get good pros or freebies. Everybody says that Russian girls are easy but I do not think so. In the pubs where foreigners come and some English speaking girls come there are a lot of guys looking for freebies and the girls know it. You are more likely to end up paying all drinks for them and then still go home alone. I Russia it is not more easy then in Europe if you are an ordinary guy in his mid 40's and not rich.
Any Ideas.
PeterTry Rusdosug. Ru but dial in English speaking and then to those with verification by previous customers. I recommend Angel. She's sweet and speaks English better than some Americans.
Stavvrrooss
03-02-11, 22:33
If you are a foreign tourist who doesn't speak Russian, then you're pretty much walking around with a big target on your back.
Try fantasys,
www.fantasys.org.
They don't speak English any better than the rest, but they won't hang up the phone just because you do. They are located in the center of town, near Pushkinskaya metro. Find the big statue of Pushkin and make your call from there. If business is slow enough, they will send someone out to retrieve you. Service is good and prices are around 4,000 rubles.
Your only other option would be the FKK clubs in Germany or Vienna.What is this fantasys place, I used google translate but I'm a little confused. It doesn't quote prices. You mention 4000 roubles, what is that for? 1 hour or 1 round with one of the girls on the website?
Stravinsky
03-03-11, 06:20
What is this fantasys place, I used google translate but I'm a little confused. It doesn't quote prices. You mention 4000 roubles, what is that for? 1 hour or 1 round with one of the girls on the website?It's your basic brothel. You walk in, the girls line up, you pays your money and you makes your choice. Just like in Vegas, except the girls in Moscow are much higher quality for a lot less money.
They don't quote prices on the website, but the guys on sextalk report 4, 500 руб. That's for an hour.
Jeff Bills
03-05-11, 06:32
Websites like girls-students offer beautiful girls on the photos but the real girls they have are not even close looking to the photos. They ask for about 7000 Rub per hour + taxi. Service from them is good but of course expensive.
PeterI was in Moscow about 4 years ago and speak no Russian, and the girls-students site worked fine for me. I saw Anna who I see is still on the website now. She is fully hot but the service was not so great compared to girls I have seen in Toronto (but the price is a bit higher here). She asked for an extra amount for a cab when she arrived which might have been annoying but it was like $10, which made me feel bad for her that she felt she had to ask such a thing. The prices were lower in Moscow then than now, it was 3000 roubles for an hour which was about $100 at the time (so obviously a joke if you have afforded travel to Russia from North America). I stayed at the Savoy hotel, and there was an english-language newspaper in the lobby of hotel called the Moscow Times that had ads for some agencies including this one among others. No girls in the lobby and tight security but for the price you pay the security is on your side, and will let girls in if you tell them to. I also visited the Metropolitan Hotel which was across the street and down a bit and there were girls there in the lobby so you could see them first. They looked good. I was in charge of a young kid at the time though so I did not approach them.
Kurosawa00
03-12-11, 15:19
Long time reader. Picked up a lot of great tips in other countries so I thought I'd post a my experience to share. I've been to a few strip clubs which have so many beautiful women but prefer the convenience of outcall. What I've experienced here in moscow is hit or miss and perhaps it's because I'm a lazy bastard and don't want to go out and pick up women so I can't complain too much. I'm realistic on what I'm paying for (ie. Busting a nut, relaxing and try not to catch anything) but try to be a gentleman with all the girls
A few of my experiences.
Exclusivegirls. Org.
Thought I'd give it a whirl and called. Classic bait and switch. . Asked if daniela (based on the site photos) was available the madam said she call me back. Said she was and would be at my hotel in 20-30 minutes. The woman who appeared was nothing like the photo considerably shorter, wider and older but still cute enough. Lesson learned. Stick with rusdosug.
Rusdosug. Com.
Have to say that it's a great site in terms of searching but the age is misleading. Generally what you see is not 100% really what you get. Try adding +3-5 years to the age listed by the provider. Tried this a couple of times the most recent:
Tatyana http://www.rusdosug.com/indi31662.htm
Based on the reviews I thought I try it out. First of all she's a bit heavier in person. Great english. Has a tendency to talk over you and double fists whiskey & OJ which I've never seen before. Kind of has f-ed up teeth but I'm in to japanese women so it didn't really turn me off. She's a bit mechanical in her approach but then again it's just sex right? However she's probably given me one of the best BBBJ / CIM that I've ever experienced. If you want a sure thing but not the fake conversation give her a call.
Natasha http://www.girl-directory.com/russia-escort.php?ID=9580
She used to be on rusdosug but can't find her anymore. Came across her in my general searches on this site. She's more like 35+ but the photos are airbrushed which is fine but mad props to her photographer. However she's got a banging body. Very MILF in every positive way. Haven't repeated because she's a bit crazy as in crazy crazy. However she's very aggressive in bed. She was giving me a BBJ on par with Tatyana who was quiet but Natasha talks dirty the whole time talking to my dick as if I wasn't even there. She ordered me into 69 and yelling instructions while slapping my ass then stuck her finger in my hole calling me a dirty boy and was going to teach me to make her come. Was a bit surprised but went with it and have to admit was an intense orgasm. So if you're into a kooky MILF with a hard body with borderline bondage tendancies Natasha's your girl.
If any of you fellow monger-ers have a sure thing in terms of outcall let me know.
Stravinsky
03-12-11, 17:53
If any of you fellow monger-ers have a sure thing in terms of outcall let me know.See my post in Russia Websites on how to search for Outcall.
Kurosawa00
03-12-11, 18:49
See my post in Russia Websites on how to search for Outcall.Thanks Stravinsky. I'll try intimcity and see if my lucks changes at all compared to rusdosug
Stravinsky
03-13-11, 19:11
Intimcity and Rusdosug are sister sites, so they are basically the same thing. But Intimcity is linked to the reports on Sextalk, so you're not just guessing, you can have a first-hand report (if one exists).
Natasha.
http://www.girl-directory.com/russia-escort.php?ID=9580
She used to be on rusdosug but can't find her anymore. I see Natasha advertised from time to time on other sites and places like London so she seems to get about.
Read a few reviews of her over the years and she does appear to have a reliable reputation.
VG.
Stravinsky
03-14-11, 04:59
Natasha.
http://www.girl-directory.com/russia-escort.php?ID=9580
She used to be on rusdosug but can't find her anymore. Came across her in my general searches on this site. She's more like 35+ but the photos are airbrushed which is fine but mad props to her photographer. However she's got a banging body. Very MILF in every positive way. Haven't repeated because she's a bit crazy as in crazy crazy. However she's very aggressive in bed. She was giving me a BBJ on par with Tatyana who was quiet but Natasha talks dirty the whole time talking to my dick as if I wasn't even there. She ordered me into 69 and yelling instructions while slapping my ass then stuck her finger in my hole calling me a dirty boy and was going to teach me to make her come. Was a bit surprised but went with it and have to admit was an intense orgasm. So if you're into a kooky MILF with a hard body with borderline bondage tendancies Natasha's your girl. Interesting...
Anastasia on that same site is also your Natasha. Or at least she's using the same pix.
http://www.girl-directory.com/russia-escort.php?ID=17162
She also has another site.
http://www.eliteindependent-escort.com/
And also used to be on sweet-dreams. Ru.
The Anastasia I met is a very classy lady. As you said, the pix she uses are probably 6 or 7 years old, but she still has an excellent figure. And in that time she has acquired a wealth of knowledge about what a boy wants. She is a little eccentric, although I don't remember her having a conversation with my dick, but then again, it's hard to talk with your mouth full. (BIG smile)
Brotherrabitt
03-14-11, 11:00
Maybe someone already mentioned it on the thread, cannot be bothered to check. Funny novel by A D Miller (from 2004-2007 Moscow correspondent for The Economist) called Snowdrops, about a UK expat lawyer in Moscow in the early 2000's,"city of hedonism, magical hideaways, debauched nightclubs. Etc etc etc" - "featuring characters whose hearts are as icy as the Russian winter", now that sounds familiar ;). It's not Chekhov, but surely fun to read for people who live / lived in Moscow.
Ciao
I see Natasha advertised from time to time on other sites and places like London so she seems to get about.
Read a few reviews of her over the years and she does appear to have a reliable reputation.
VG. Yeah, I had a great session with Anastasia / Natasha in Feb. 2008. She would be a bit more than 30, more like 35+. Loves anal, she bought a few of her own toys (including some new ones) and we tried them all out. Recommended.
Cheers,
Anyone been in contact with Skank or 109?
Bez Bezarra
03-22-11, 12:11
Any Skank ?Probably got absorbed by the Vory v Zakone.
Somebody knows what is happening when they block your account?
Is there a way of unblocking?
Shall I make a new one?
IT.
It's the first time it happens me.
Somebody knows what is happening when they block your account?
Is there a way of unblocking?
Shall I make a new one?
IT.
It's the first time it happens me. Ciao IT, it happens to me about one month ago, that I tried to log in and it wrote wrong password, I got scared cause I was sure my password was correct, the next day everything worked fine again.
Now what you do you mean exactly with they block your account, maybe wait one day and I hope it will be fine again.
I will going to Moscow like tourist in this month and I have 28 years old and my economy is not sufficient, I will stay in the Cosmos Hotel from April 16 to April 19.
I would like to tell me some club for meet girls (not strip clubs) and have sex, independant, pro or semi-pro, etc. Thank you.
Ciao IT, it happens to me about one month ago, that I tried to log in and it wrote wrong password, I got scared cause I was sure my password was correct, the next day everything worked fine again.
Now what you do you mean exactly with they block your account, maybe wait one day and I hope it will be fine again. Will see Grazie Luca, otherwise I will backup all my contacts (in the next log in). This is what appears.
Your account has been blocked.
You have violated one of clauses of the Service Agreement. Your profile has been blocked.
If any questions arise, you can refer tosystem support.
Correspondence with the Support Team
Can't understand.
But I still have some weeks to backup my contacts (easy mostly 18-24 in Moscow and Kiev).
IT
IT if it stil does not work, so I guess it could be happened this: did you see there is the option secret agency 007 or something like that, where a normal member offers to help and to find members that go out of rules and scam?
I guess some of these sort of admin have the chance to watch our profiles, it is enough that one of them get jealous for a foreigner having too many girls and you are blocked without reasons at all.
If you did nothing wrong, so why they blocked you? This is the only one explanation I can find out.
If I was you I'd write to system support an email in english and using translator in Russian too, where you explain that surely there was a mistake cause you are many years member, you paid for VIP status and so on and that you are waiting for your profile be unblocked to keep on use their wonderful site. Just a lick-ass mail LOL.
In this way probably it should work.
I cross my fingers.
P. S. I got once a profile blocked cause I contacted, in a Slovak web site, too many girls in too little days and yes we can do a new profile, but it sucks to lost our contacts and all the hours invested to find them, so I understand you well.
IT if it stil does not work, so I guess it could be happened this: did you see there is the option secret agency 007 or something like that, where a normal member offers to help and to find members that go out of rules and scam?
I guess some of these sort of admin have the chance to watch our profiles, it is enough that one of them get jealous for a foreigner having too many girls and you are blocked without reasons at all.
If you did nothing wrong, so why they blocked you? This is the only one explanation I can find out.
If I was you I'd write to system support an email in english and using translator in Russian too, where you explain that surely there was a mistake cause you are many years member, you paid for VIP status and so on and that you are waiting for your profile be unblocked to keep on use their wonderful site. Just a lick-ass mail LOL.
In this way probably it should work.
I cross my fingers.
P. S. I got once a profile blocked cause I contacted, in a Slovak web site, too many girls in too little days and yes we can do a new profile, but it sucks to lost our contacts and all the hours invested to find them, so I understand you well. Now it works again, by the way I wrote them in English.
You know nest to a trip to Russia I need to find the best teens for my hobbies (maid, ciffs, anal, etc etc.) it's not so simple so I post 30 gals a day may be it's for that from tomorrow I'll post only 20, found one. Non a beauty, but, seems like Inga in Kiev (you mind?).
IT
Now it works again, by the way I wrote them in English.
You know nest to a trip to Russia I need to find the best teens for my hobbies (maid, ciffs, anal, etc etc.) it's not so simple so I post 30 gals a day may be it's for that from tomorrow I'll post only 20, found one. Non a beauty, but, seems like Inga in Kiev (you mind?).
ITHappy to hear it works again, have, surely, fun ;)
Happy to hear it works again, have, surely, fun ;)Ey Luka and IT Travel recommend me clubs in Moscow
I have had read the forum but the information is about strip clubs and tochkas.
Ey Luka and IT Travel recommend me clubs in Moscow
I have had read the forum but the information is about strip clubs and tochkas. I can't, I do not know them at all, my last time in Moscow was there just 3 days, couple of beers at HD and then tochka, more than enough for me and staying short time, I neither want to waste time, effort and money to try to date some regular.
I can't, I do not know them at all, my last time in Moscow was there just 3 days, couple of beers at HD and then tochka, more than enough for me and staying short time, I neither want to waste time, effort and money to try to date some regular.Ok man, I understand you, then tell me, today for today, what do you recommend me, I'm nervious, I don't speak Russian and is my first time in moscow and only for 3 days like you.
Thanks in advance.
Ok man, I understand you, then tell me, today for today, what do you recommend me, I'm nervious, I don't speak Russian and is my first time in moscow and only for 3 days like you.
Thanks in advance. Relax! Period!
Relax as one going to heaven without the need to die!
Relax cause my first time to Moscow in 2004 my Russian knowledge was almost zero and BTW neither my english was very good LOL.
Just be sure to have in your pocket a english Russian dictionary, just in case and a lot of cash cause I promise you, suddenly when you will get out of airport you will be very hungry of pussy LOL.
Nothing more to say, maybe a piece of paper with written some place they deserve to be seen, for example Aurora911 and so on. Oh yes and once back home, do not disappear but report us!
Have fun. It is almost impossible to not have fun in heaven.
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