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Stravinsky
03-22-12, 05:31
With a heavy heart, I must report that the member in question has left Russia for good.Jake,
What are you saying? Are you saying that Elvis has left the building?
Say it isn't so!
I am sorry for you, it is probably that's the usual fake Moscow-style profile to make men to travel to Moscow.May be Alconizer. But I have to travel to Moscow in any case so. Why not spending some time with a nice blondinka or brunetka?
Just for saying some words on tochka and other things.
In the early Nineties Moscow was like a sex Disneyland: when they just opened Night Flight (1991) you could get a night (maybe a day) from a normal, beautiful girl, for 100 USD, and a stunner model one for 200.
Outside Moscow (far away) until 2002-3 or so you could get a teeny beauty in your bed (unlimited sex) for 20 USD an hour, even less, or 100 USD a night.
What a pity!
IT
Jake,
What are you saying? Are you saying that Elvis has left the building?
Say it isn't so!I am afraid so. Flown the coop.
AColonizer
03-22-12, 20:10
First of all, I am A Colonizer.
Secondly, the past time is past. You should think this situation in the past. When I had my opportunities in 2006 (my first time) , I had immediately recognized those. Unfortunately the Italian background and personal inexperience worked against me. Men here assign rates on women but they have no idea what is a 9 or a 10 about all features (age, beauty, technique, pigness, height, weight, family, ancestors, culture, languages, smartness, elegance, good-manner, sweetness and also a lot of bad habits). I had a very hard teaching with comparison to nobody here about hardcore prostitutes and their lovers / pimps.
Thirdly, that profile is fake for sure.
May be Alconizer. But I have to travel to Moscow in any case so. Why not spending some time with a nice blondinka or brunetka?
Just for saying some words on tochka and other things.
In the early Nineties Moscow was like a sex Disneyland: when they just opened Night Flight (1991) you could get a night (maybe a day) from a normal, beautiful girl, for 100 USD, and a stunner model one for 200.
Outside Moscow (far away) until 2002-3 or so you could get a teeny beauty in your bed (unlimited sex) for 20 USD an hour, even less, or 100 USD a night.
What a pity!
IT
Jake,
What are you saying? Are you saying that Elvis has left the building?
Say it isn't so!Strav. Clear some of your private messages. You have exceeded your limit and I cannot send you anymore PM's.
Stravinsky
03-27-12, 15:22
Oops, прошу прошение, ошибался (sorry, my mistake). Fire away mate!
[QUOTE=Passepartout; 1257412]Bulgakov,
Living here since 5 years I amy give you one or two advice that you may find useful.
Second, Rolling stones is in my opinion a good compromise between no severe doors control, accessible girl of an average / good looking. Maybe give a second chance to the club.
Third, there is a club called "Paris" if I remember well located inside the sad hermitage. Chances to score there are high, and no competition with 20 years old guys.
I've been on vacation, sorry for the late response. Thanks for the insight, except I think there is not competition with 20 year old guys. I get the impression that the women here like older, secure men which is why we have it made. And, yes, my best experience was at rolling stones but I had to leave early (1am) , so I will definitely try again. What about Soho Rooms? I met a younger dutch guy at penthouse who said soho and rolling stones were his favorites. He said he's fucked more girls in 4 months than in his previous 26 years of life, but I think he paid for all of them. I'll try Paris this weekend. I will try club 19 and aurora, too. Thanks. Lastly, I was thinking that a solution to face control might be to say "&1071; &1080; &1079; New York". I'm from Chicago, but they all know and love NYC, yes? Will this help? For next winter, I'll get a moncler jacket to replace the dorky northface I have now)
Hi Guys,
Going to be in Moscow last week of April.
Last time I stayed at the Marriot Tverskaya which is a pretty GF hotel, but alas this time they have only suites available, upwards of 500$.
I want to know if any of the following are as GF (no questions asked, no walk of shame) as the Marriot.
-Radisson Belarusskaya.
-Hilton Leningradskaya.
-The National.
Thanks in advance
Member #4243
04-12-12, 03:52
Hello, all; I have just returned from a great trip touring the fkk clubs of germany in berlin, frankfurt and cologne. I am searching for a new exotic location at present. Moscow is in my eyes a great tourist destination void of gorgeous hunnies anyhow. I am fully aware of the Kiev Rio scene and the fact that moscow for the first time visitor is very expensive. However having visited fkk globe in zurich I have worked out that hour by hour the cost of a moscow club like aurora on an hourly basis is roughly the same as fkk globe. Both venues offering hunnies of exceptional quality. At the moment I am not considering Kiev as it is moscow I want to visit. I have also read (and seen the loft video) that I am more likely to find girls of exceptional quality by visiting moscow. I have read the forum in detail but I have a number of specific questions I could really do with some help with as I cannot find the answers. I also plan trips on a strict preset budget so this info would be essential for me if I do eventually visit moscow.
1) I am british born of egyptian parents so have a middle eastern appearance. I am very well groomed and of a nice nature. Would I pose any difficulties entering clubs such as aurora, penthouse, loft and so on?
2) I have read 12000 roubles is the price for 1 hour sex with a hunny is this the same for penthouse and loft. What I really need are exact prices here not rough estimates for the reasons previously stated. Also is there an entrance charge for the above clubs and how much is this and is there any pressure put on customers to buy drinks for girls or a table for eg? Ie if there is an entrance charge would this be the only extra apart from my drinks if I wanted to take a girl for an hour. Again sorry for the clinical examination here.
3) are the penthouse, loft and aurora the three most consistent clubs in moscow for the highest quality girls assuming that I only want to use strip clubs with an inhouse room as my only source of P4P taking into account I want the most beautiful girls and willl be new to moscow.
4) are there any clubs offering the same quality girls for say 9000 roubles / hour I have read maybe about a playboy club but not sure?
5) there is a lot of info request here but I believe a clued up "expert" could answer them in a couple of sentences and for me the response would be invaluable.
6) finally nille if you are out there try to help me for a change? I spent 3 hours typing up my fkk reports and have sent an email to Jackson to remove the name of you know who! LOL
Hello, all; I have just returned from a great trip touring the fkk clubs of germany in berlin, frankfurt and cologne. I am searching for a new exotic location at present. Moscow is in my eyes a great tourist destination void of gorgeous hunnies anyhow. I am fully aware of the Kiev Rio scene and the fact that moscow for the first time visitor is very expensive. However having visited fkk globe in zurich I have worked out that hour by hour the cost of a moscow club like aurora on an hourly basis is roughly the same as fkk globe. Both venues offering hunnies of exceptional quality. At the moment I am not considering Kiev as it is moscow I want to visit. I have also read (and seen the loft video) that I am more likely to find girls of exceptional quality by visiting moscow. I have read the forum in detail but I have a number of specific questions I could really do with some help with as I cannot find the answers. I also plan trips on a strict preset budget so this info would be essential for me if I do eventually visit moscow.
1) I am british born of egyptian parents so have a middle eastern appearance. I am very well groomed and of a nice nature. Would I pose any difficulties entering clubs such as aurora, penthouse, loft and so on?
2) I have read 12000 roubles is the price for 1 hour sex with a hunny is this the same for penthouse and loft. What I really need are exact prices here not rough estimates for the reasons previously stated. Also is there an entrance charge for the above clubs and how much is this and is there any pressure put on customers to buy drinks for girls or a table for eg? Ie if there is an entrance charge would this be the only extra apart from my drinks if I wanted to take a girl for an hour. Again sorry for the clinical examination here.
3) are the penthouse, loft and aurora the three most consistent clubs in moscow for the highest quality girls assuming that I only want to use strip clubs with an inhouse room as my only source of P4P taking into account I want the most beautiful girls and willl be new to moscow.
4) are there any clubs offering the same quality girls for say 9000 roubles / hour I have read maybe about a playboy club but not sure?
5) there is a lot of info request here but I believe a clued up "expert" could answer them in a couple of sentences and for me the response would be invaluable.
6) finally nille if you are out there try to help me for a change? I spent 3 hours typing up my fkk reports and have sent an email to Jackson to remove the name of you know who! LOLAnswers to above questions.
1. No, I don't believe so. Not in those places if you are dressed appropriately.
2. The going rate in Aurora 911 was $300 BEFORE Penthouse and Loft opened and that included the use of the "back room". Once PH and Loft opened things changed because technically as both PH and Loft now operate as hotels. In my mind, Aurora is still a bit of a mystery but I am sure they have an arrangement that includes a secret passage to a nearby hotel. This was done to solve the problem of these clubs getting raided by police. If you want to have onsite sex with a girl, you arrange to take her to a room in the hotel that is "next door". Therefore, the room rate is fixed and the girls rate is somewhat negotiable so things are not quite so clear as they once were with respect to prices. But to answer you question directly, yes. If you want on-site service you are looking at 12, 000 Rubles for the first hour.
3. These three are the most Western in terms of management. The girls are well behaved and security is excellent. And of course the quality is as good if not better than anything you will find anywhere else on this green earth. The fourth club in the group is Korston 911 which is located inside the Korston Hotel (see the pattern?). Don't forget to check out that one if you are looking for better prices and slightly more "low key" atmosphere. It's a bit out of the way but it's only a $15 cab ride from the center (15 Kosygin Street) so it's easily reachable. I know several local guys who prefer it to the other three.
4. 9,000 rubles? Most definitely, but here it gets a little less predictable and the quality is a little more hit and miss. Send me a PM and we can get into the details but if you are a first timer then I would stick with the "tier 1" places until your Russian is at the level where you can handle yourself in a heated discussion. But that's your call. Personally, I would say it's worth the extra $100 for peace of mind.
Nille Copenhagen
04-12-12, 09:22
Mohab, you have just been on a tour in Germany (probably spend some money) , when are you planning to going Moscow.
Is it too early for you to ask questions again. Normally we ask questions when we are ready to go.
I've been to Aurora some week ago. The Loft has just opened when I was there but didn't have time to check it out, it's the same owner as Aurora and the girls might rotate between the clubs. Nice strip clubs, you need to pay for room+girl. Girls are friendly and nice, but costly. If you are charming, lucky and have money you might get her no. And meet her later.
Other cheaper options are salons and escorts.
I'll back in Moscow in some weeks I'll checkout the Loft.
Hello, all; I have just returned from a great trip touring the fkk clubs of germany in berlin, frankfurt and cologne. I am searching for a new exotic location at present. Moscow is in my eyes a great tourist destination void of gorgeous hunnies anyhow. I am fully aware of the Kiev Rio scene and the fact that moscow for the first time visitor is very expensive. However having visited fkk globe in zurich I have worked out that hour by hour the cost of a moscow club like aurora on an hourly basis is roughly the same as fkk globe. Both venues offering hunnies of exceptional quality. At the moment I am not considering Kiev as it is moscow I want to visit. I have also read (and seen the loft video) that I am more likely to find girls of exceptional quality by visiting moscow. I have read the forum in detail but I have a number of specific questions I could really do with some help with as I cannot find the answers. I also plan trips on a strict preset budget so this info would be essential for me if I do eventually visit moscow.Hi Mohab,
Do not go to Moscow for mongering. If tourism is your main purpose than go for it. It is a fantastic city with mega wealth, lots to see, and the most gorgeous women. But here are the problems. Russia is a tough country that made me feel isolated from the rest of the world. I had no friends there and the fear of loosing my passport weighed down on me. The city is a megopolis and traveling at night can be difficult because most cab drivers don't speak English. Face control at nightclubs is a real concern. The guy at Pacha faced me and hurt my feelings. Just kidding I have a thick skin. I had no problems at strip clubs which I did enjoy. Forget visiting apartments and salons without some fluency in the language. Hotel girls are an easy option but I never found one that I found attractive. Nightflight is too expensive.
The one positive that I will not forget is how easy it was to talk to women assuming they knew some English. They don't go on defense with foreigners like Kiev.
The Tanuki
04-12-12, 15:53
Do not go to Moscow for mongering. The city is a megopolis and traveling at night can be difficult because most cab drivers don't speak English. Face control at nightclubs is a real concern. The guy at Pacha faced me and hurt my feelings. Just kidding I have a thick skin. I had no problems at strip clubs which I did enjoy. Forget visiting apartments and salons without some fluency in the language. Hotel girls are an easy option but I never found one that I found attractive. Nightflight is too expensive.Basically I'd agree that this is not the optimal place for mongering. I've been at it in Asia for a long time and this cannot compare. I'm not into strip clubs, and sure as fuck not for several hundreds of bucks. However, as I'm here for a couple weeks on business, why not take a shot at some ladies? After all those long legs in short skirts walk by, your little brain forces you to try to shag one. I have one small bit of advice, and that's learn the cyrillic alphabet at least reasonably well before you come. Then you can use some copy and paste functionality with Google Translate and that can get you at least some introductions via manga (I have no association with that site, just been using it). When you get here, go to MTC and buy a prepaid SIM card. It includes 3G which is a huge benefit. I have an unlocked iPhone from Hong Kong for this purpose. :p
So from all my work to date, I've at least managed to get laid with one girl. She's a non-pro from out of town because her place somewhere is flooded out. Strangest night of my mongering career. With a decided lack of prudence, I embarked on the trip to her place, which was about 45 minutes away. Got a private car, not a taxi (which was cheaper anyhow) , so there I am riding across some town I don't know, where I can't speak the language, to find a girl who I don't know. She kept calling every 10 minutes asking where I am (do people expect you to be on time around here with THIS traffic?) , like I know where the fuck I am or as if I could tell her anyhow (she speaks just a little English). The guy drops me off at the edge of an apartment building with 15 cm deep water around almost like a moat. I call but the girl ain't answering and I'm wondering if I've made a critical error or not. She finally picks up and comes downstairs. Hmmm, about 10-15 kg more than the pics, but what the hell, here I am. Hahaha. In short, she was in the medical field so everything was covered. She kept swapping condoms all the time as if they disappear after 10 strokes or something. The muff was a bit on the smelly side so no option of DATY either. But she came twice though I could only manage one nut there. Fairly below-average sex in my book, but the evening had to rate a 10+ just for the cultural experience and see how folks live over here.
I also have an older woman I started seeing last night, also from mamba. She's quite slim and pretty for late 40's. Didn't manage to get her pants off last night, but will be seeing her for the weekend and that could prove lucrative. I don't think she's had sex in quite some time so once the gates are open I'm betting she'll be good to go for the rest of my stay here. If nothing else, I have an English-speaking friend who tells me a lot about life in Moscow and that's cool in its own right.
Do I recommend you work all this? Not really, but I'm underworked on this trip so I've had time to invest. Doubt that I'll ever get back over here so to me it's just trying to sample the wares a little bit. I'd studied Russian way back in college for a year, and can still read the language a bit, even if I don't know what it means. Not to sound naive, as there are certainly thugs around, but I don't find Moscow as inherently evil as some make it sound. I've gotten into several private cars when taxis are not available, and have found folks to be very nice on the whole. And having the address in Russian in the iPhone's Notes app makes that easy to show the driver so you don't need to explain how to get there. They know or have a GPS to find it.
Just a bit of my experience here in the capital for a week.
The Tanuki
I have also read (and seen the loft video) that I am more likely to find girls of exceptional quality by visiting moscow.Yep, very true but how are you going to filter out the ones that are beautiful on the outside and ugly on the inside? A super model is going to charge you $500 in that town and what's the point if you can't even talk to her. Your going to need to feel some of that hot Russian blooded emotion for that price. You don't want to be traveling Moscow for the robot sex of FKK.
You don't want to be traveling Moscow for the robot sex of FKK.Quite right. You will not find ANYTHING that compares with an FKK in Moscow. So many guys come here thinking that there might be a similar type of club here. Sorry dudes. It does not exist in Moscow. Having said that, you can easily recreate the same FKK atmosphere in a sauna, but that is going to cost some bucks and a little planning.
Stravinsky
04-13-12, 15:49
In my mind, Aurora is still a bit of a mystery but I am sure they have an arrangement that includes a secret passage to a nearby hotel. This was done to solve the problem of these clubs getting raided by police.Jake,
Do you honestly believe that the investors in a club like Aurora would begin operation without the blessing of the Moscow militsia (police)?
Stravinsky
04-13-12, 15:59
Do not go to Moscow for mongering.OK, I'm sorry, but this conversation is getting way out of hand.
Moscow is actually a mongering paradise. IF you can speak and read Russian. The options for meeting women for sex are virtually unlimited, the prices are low (if not downright free) , and that is for some of the most beautiful women you will find anywhere in the world.
But you got to know the territory.
This is why we only hear from the clueless guys who have no idea what they are doing. We seldom hear from the guys who live there because they're too busy juggling all the babes.
But you got to know the territory.With all due respect Stravinsky, I shared my perspective from a complete newbie in Moscow as opposed to members with a comfort level. In that town, its not so easy for outsiders to access all the possibilities.
Chill Bill
04-13-12, 21:41
Hello. Can someone please tell me how far Nizhni Novgorod is from Moscow. I see it on the map, but it is hard to tell if it's a few hours train ride, many hours train ride, etc. Also, has anyone ever been there as an alternative to Big City Moscow? If so, would you go there again and / or recommend it? Thanks!
Moscow is actually a mongering paradise. IF you can speak and read Russian. The options for meeting women for sex are virtually unlimited, the prices are low (if not downright free) , and that is for some of the most beautiful women you will find anywhere in the world.Amen to that. But I'd disagree on the Russian speaking matter. A guy with "game", poise, self-confidence and cultural awareness, and with the right dressing style, can do wonders in Moscow even without speaking Russian.
Hello. Can someone please tell me how far Nizhni Novgorod is from Moscow. I see it on the map, but it is hard to tell if it's a few hours train ride, many hours train ride, etc. Also, has anyone ever been there as an alternative to Big City Moscow? If so, would you go there again and / or recommend it? Thanks!Haven't visited yet but it's approx 7 hours by train from Moscow...
Stravinsky
04-14-12, 15:56
With all due respect Stravinsky, I shared my perspective from a complete newbie in Moscow as opposed to members with a comfort level. In that town, its not so easy for outsiders to access all the possibilities.I know, and I don't disagree with you. I just wanted to balance the conversation with a different perspective.
AColonizer
04-14-12, 19:58
All of us agree with you. In fact that is seduction, that isn't mongering or P4P. It is important to repeat that difference. I think when somebody says "Moscow is not for mongering.", he says a big truth, because Moscow is for regular fucking relationships. In fact in Moscow I fucked more normal girls than prostitutes. Prostitutes in central Moscow are expensive and dangerous as I reported in my past posts.
This is why we only hear from the clueless guys who have no idea what they are doing. We seldom hear from the guys who live there because they're too busy juggling all the babes.
Member #4243
04-14-12, 21:46
I have come to a quick conclusion that 1) moscow is great for sightseeing) way overpriced for p4p so after having done 8 fkk trips I will continue to search for a "different" experience something more adventurous."seek and ye shall find".
Stravinsky
04-15-12, 23:22
Prostitutes in central Moscow are expensive and dangerous as I reported in my past posts.I hate to burst your bubble Aco, but you are completely clueless when it comes to Moscow and Russia; freebies, P4P, or otherwise. That's no opinion, it can be easily determined from reading all your silly posts over the past years.
Hi folks,
I am planning to visit moscow end of the month and I am RTFFing. I read about a year's worth of posts. Searched rusdosug and am clicking through the map. I speak no Russian. Only English, spanish and a tiny bit of french. Cannot afford the prices in aurora911 etc.
Some questions for you.
1. There is something called the edem that has convenient directions. It says massage and 1hr for 50$s. Is this for everything including FS? Or the S is extra?
2. There is a similar place called adrenaline massage that says the same thing for 70$s. What about this one?
3. The indies have prices for incall and outcall which sometimes seem to be the same. I thought that outcall would be more? Some do have no outcalls for 1hr or higher price for 1hr outcall.
4. Safer to get outcall vs go visit them?
5. How important is it to have a phone?
6. In one case I saw a comment on the site that I found on the place where it says girls with same phone number there is said (when looking at 81193's profile)."there are 10 girls at this location. Be careful, it maybe a salon or a club" what is there to be careful about in salons?
Thanks for your help. I will post a guide to newbies like me.
Adventur
I hate to burst your bubble Aco, but you are completely clueless when it comes to Moscow and Russia; freebies, P4P, or otherwise. That's no opinion, it can be easily determined from reading all your silly posts over the past years.Come on you guys, just stop it.
Hi folks,
I am planning to visit moscow end of the month and I am RTFFing. I read about a year's worth of posts. Searched rusdosug and am clicking through the map. I speak no Russian. Only English, spanish and a tiny bit of french. Cannot afford the prices in aurora911 etc.
Some questions for you.
1. There is something called the edem that has convenient directions. It says massage and 1hr for 50$s. Is this for everything including FS? Or the S is extra?
2. There is a similar place called adrenaline massage that says the same thing for 70$s. What about this one?
3. The indies have prices for incall and outcall which sometimes seem to be the same. I thought that outcall would be more? Some do have no outcalls for 1hr or higher price for 1hr outcall.
4. Safer to get outcall vs go visit them?
5. How important is it to have a phone?
6. In one case I saw a comment on the site that I found on the place where it says girls with same phone number there is said (when looking at 81193's profile)."there are 10 girls at this location. Be careful, it maybe a salon or a club" what is there to be careful about in salons?
Thanks for your help. I will post a guide to newbies like me.
AdventurAnswers:
1. These are massage parlors. Some have FS some do not. And it's extra.
2. Same as above. There are about a 1, 000 massage parlors in Moscow.
3. If varies depending on the girl. Some feel safe to venture out and some like to do business on their own turf. And it also depends on whether they are independent or work out of a "working apartment". No hard and fast rules.
4. Safety is relative. Varies according to the girl. In many cases she is just as afraid for her own safety as you are for yours. In general, Moscow is a very safe city if you stick to busy areas. Because it is a cash based society, people walk around with hundred and even thousands of dollar equivalent currency on their person. Once in a while people do get mugged so you need to be aware of your surroundings. But the days of rampant petty crime and generally a thing of the past.
5. You NEED to buy a local SIM card. You can get one anywhere including the airport. Otherwise it's impossible to communicate. Girls will not return the call of a foreign cell phone. Just remember that the local cell network is 900 MHz / 1800 MHz (just like Europe) so if you are form the USA you need a quad band phone or you need to purchase a cheap phone in Moscow. Cheap phone plus SIM card with plenty of time on it will cost you $60. Good investment.
6. There is nothing wrong with a salon. But the girl will not leave with you. She will conduct business on site. But are good salons and not so good salons. The better ones are as safe as your own home with high security. The girls go to great lengths to control the traffic in the halls going to and from the bathroom. You will never run into another client in the hall. The biggest risk in a salon is getting your belongings stolen. It's rare but it happens. Stick to the better quality places while you are new to Moscow and you will be just fine. Remember. These are BUSINESSES. And when customers get ripped off it's BAD FOR BUSINESS. These places rely on word of mouth referrals and want you to have a positive experience. Just relax and use common sense. And if you don't speak Russian just be patient, don't raise your voice, and smile. It will all work out. They want your money just as badly as you want to get laid.
The Tanuki
04-16-12, 08:26
I've long heard tales of the joys of Russian women. Some of that was from our friend Pizdyets who I know from his visit to China in the past. I'm happy to report on my own success that just sort of fell into my lap. We started the contact via mamba, and she asked early if I want to meet. The first evening, as noted before, was a very pleasant time but ended with just a brief kiss. Then we had Saturday night which was way more fun. We had some Pakistani food and a couple bottles of wine, then went to the Petrovich club as she said it was this funky old place that's really crazy. It's a members only place but she has the card so no problem. This club is down below ground and has all sorts of odd shit decorating it. Maybe Tim Burton's decorator worked it. Anyhow it's very local and friendly. We'd already eaten, but the food there looked pretty good. There's a simple wood platform in the middle of the place and just after midnight a lady kind of formally opened up the dancing. Natasha and I settled back to watch a while. The DJ played an eclectic mix of Russian and western tunes, and people all started getting into the dance scene. Most folks were quite drunk and funny to watch. Then we joined in on stage which was crowded as hell by that time. Never seen a place where everybody was just having fun and falling down drunk and all that. There were a number of single girls starting to show up later, and Natasha said they come for the sex. A guy I met who spoke English validated that. I'd recommend going there on a Saturday sometime. Probably 10-12 girls hanging out and most were 6-8 with a couple of 9's in there. If I wasn't ready to get into Natasha's skirt so badly I would've taken a shot. But she was wearing a very short skirt that had been driving me crazy all night, and no way was I giving up on that one.
As the dancing continued Natasha started laying these hot sweaty kisses on me, and she'd grind her ass on my cock and give it a touch with her hands sometimes. Woo Hoo! It turned out she hadn't had sex in 2 years (as I'd suspected) and damn if she didn't unloose the fuck gods on me! Not a pube in sight on that waxed-clean little pizda, and the Y was very tasty dining for sure. We had 4 rounds before she finally pulled away around noon on Sunday. She took me to her apartment for awhile because her mom had some trouble. There were pictures of her in her 20's around. Gawd was a total stunner she was then. Wish I could've met her back in those days, and she's still good looking now, but a bit on the high maintenance side (my credit cards are taking a hit here.). Last night after kicking around awhile she wanted me to take her to Aurora 911 as it's just across the street. First time ever that I've taken a woman to a strip club. She cost more than me to get in. Go figure. The ladies there are quite beautiful, I'll admit, but that kind of environment just isn't my cup of tea. So we drank a bottle of wine, watched and compared the dancers and left. Natasha did tell me she was feeling a little jealous when I looked at the naked babes. Well, what did she expect? Haha.
I finally get some time to recover and let my "hoi" rest up now, as I have work for the afternoon. See you at Petrovich this Saturday?
The Tanuki
Stravinsky
04-16-12, 15:47
Adventur,
Very few of the massage parlors in Moscow offer full service. Of course, anything is possible, but it's best not to count on it. The only places I've found that offer full service are www.erotic-massage.ru And it's sister sites, www.pussycats.ru And www.crazy-horse.ru. The girls at these sites are professionals (some have been working there for several years) and they know their business.
Most of the other massage parlors rely on girls who just arrived in town or who live in Moscow and fallen on hard times, single mothers, etc. They're nice, but they are not really committed to the business and have no interest in providing full service. Generally speaking.
If a girl is based in an apartment, then her outcall price will usually be based in 2 hours, not 1, because of travel time. There are girls who offer only outcall and their prices tend to be a little less, simply because they have no fixed costs.
After having spent many hours trudging around Moscow, only to be disappointed that the girl at the door was not, entirely, the girl in the photo, I've come to the conclusion that outcall is the best way to go. If the girl at your door is not what you expected you can simply bid her farewell and the joke's on her.
Many times several girls will go in together on an apartment and share it. In that case it's not unusual for them to post pictures of the hottest girl (s) to get you in, and then tell you,"Well, Oksana's not here today, but Lena and Nadya are." Lena and Nadya could be babes, or goblins. That's why the local guys are a little suspicious when they see several girls advertising with the same phone number. It's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you will get.
It's not a safety issue.
It's a members only place but she has the card so no problem. This club is down below ground and has all sorts of odd shit decorating it. Maybe Tim Burton's decorator worked it. Anyhow it's very local and friendly. We'd already eaten, but the food there looked pretty good. There's a simple wood platform in the middle of the place and just after midnight a lady kind of formally opened up the dancing. Natasha and I settled back to watch a while. The DJ played an eclectic mix of Russian and western tunes, and people all started getting into the dance scene. Most folks were quite drunk and funny to watch. Then we joined in on stage which was crowded as hell by that time. Never seen a place where everybody was just having fun and falling down drunk and all that. There were a number of single girls starting to show up later, and Natasha said they come for the sex.
The TanukiDude. Did you not get the memo? Petrovich is supposed to be a secret! Ha ha ha! Seriously, you have uncovered one of the best amateur pick up spots in Moscow for the late 20's to mid 30's age range. The trick of course is to get a membership. See you Saturday!
The Tanuki
04-17-12, 08:42
Dude. Did you not get the memo? Petrovich is supposed to be a secret! Ha ha ha! Seriously, you have uncovered one of the best amateur pick up spots in Moscow for the late 20's to mid 30's age range. The trick of course is to get a membership. See you Saturday!Fuck, the memo was in my other inbox. Sorry about that. Well, at least I don't have to get my own card. Hehehe.
The Tanuki
AColonizer
04-17-12, 14:14
The most important thing in life is how to spend money and which result gets by money. All the rest are fairy tales. If men are happy to pay billions dollars for normal sex, I never want to be one of them.
I read your post "We seldom hear from the guys who live there because they're too busy juggling all the babes." I hope you meant "they're too busy because they fuck regular girls everyday (with no P4P)." It is my opinion, it is not a real man who to pay high prices for simple sex.
Moreover there is a huge trouble connected to that way to be a prostitute monger: billions dollars go to criminal organizations. Therefore, on the one side, people pay billions dollars in taxes, because their governments fight criminal organizations; on the other side, people pay billions dollars in prostitutes, because criminal organizations spread drugs and [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).
I never want to be one of them.
I am ready to update my mindset with your help, when I shall come to Moscow again.
I hate to burst your bubble Aco, but you are completely clueless when it comes to Moscow and Russia; freebies, P4P, or otherwise. That's no opinion, it can be easily determined from reading all your silly posts over the past years.
I read your post "We seldom hear from the guys who live there." I hope you meant "they're too busy because they fuck regular girls everyday (with no P4P)."Aco. As a Moscow resident let me assure you this is EXACTLY why you don't hear much from us. Let me put this in the simplest possible terms. If you live here, there is absolutely no reason that you would NEED to pay for sex. There are plenty of women in Moscow who are under served and welcome the opportunity for sex. Even with foreigners. Having said that, there are plenty of reasons why some local residents prefer to pay for sex but that's not what's at issue. AND, just because you don't pay for sex it doesn't mean that it's free. If you catch my meaning. To quote the late great Pizdyets,"Just because you don't pay for pussy, doesn't mean it's free".
I have been going to Kiev for five years now and I thought you London to Moscow mongers interested in trying a new location might like to swop some summary info. To save wading through all the irrelevant chat. I fly from Luton to Kiev direct. Easy flight times available and about three hours, and I usually get a return fare or about £120 if I choose my dates carefully. I stay at the Partner guest house which is central and near convenient eateries and supermarket. They arrange pick up from airport. It's discreet with own security entrance, clean and modern. Perfect for mongering about £65/$100 per night if you choose dates carefully. I go to the Red Lion strip club on Kreschatic street straight away. Main drag. Has web site for directions. It's in easy walking distance . Opens at 10pm . Entry fee of £10. On the first night and I usually pop a viagra and find a take out girl after a series of erotic dances there for 50 grievnas (£5) each. You can get a blow job in the back I think, but I never tried. I pay around £100 for an hour with a girl. There are agencies you can ring for girls of standard appearance. Eg 'Gia' but you miss the excitement of trolling in the main drag where if you stay long enough and have the courage to approach you can pick up a loose woman outside McDonalds. On day two I recover from the viagra hangover and take it easy with a swim at Premier Palace health spa. Hugely expensive day membership of £40 but a treat. In the afternoon I use 'Dolly salon' and 'Rakuena' massage call outs. They will send a girl for a kissing and hand job massage but no sex. Don't bother trying. I have tried money / everything and doesn't work. But girls young and pretty and good company and you can get a 'lesbi-massage' which is fun to watch, although mainly play acting. You can get a girl round from 'Mamba' dating site for cheap prices from £60 up and will be ok looking but not the advertised girl. But you can exchange messages with the agency / pimp before you leave to settle prices and get contact numbers. I just go for three or four days each time to get it out of my system so I don't have time to explore much. If you hang around nearby Arena City complex near the appt at night I am sure you can get a street girl. Kiev girls are mainly lovely but I would like to try Moscow which has an even better reputation. If somebody can write me a similar itinerary I would be grateful, ie where to stay that's decent and secure and clean straight from the airport and where to go or which agency to use. There's too much waffle here and life's too short for detail.
Regards . The limarian.
Regards
AColonizer
04-18-12, 12:35
Please, enlight me. Everything in life has a price. But there is a big difference between a vodka together and a 100$ for a quickie. Moreover there is a whole world in the middle between occasional tourists and resident men in former USSR. Therefore it is necessary to keep clear those differences. Instead here people usually make a soup of everything. Thanks for the patience. Smile.
Aco. As a Moscow resident let me assure you this is EXACTLY why you don't hear much from us. Let me put this in the simplest possible terms. If you live here, there is absolutely no reason that you would NEED to pay for sex. There are plenty of women in Moscow who are under served and welcome the opportunity for sex. Even with foreigners. Having said that, there are plenty of reasons why some local residents prefer to pay for sex but that's not what's at issue. AND, just because you don't pay for sex it doesn't mean that it's free. If you catch my meaning. To quote the late great Pizdyets,"Just because you don't pay for pussy, doesn't mean it's free".
The Tanuki
04-18-12, 13:59
Aco. As a Moscow resident let me assure you this is EXACTLY why you don't hear much from us. Let me put this in the simplest possible terms. If you live here, there is absolutely no reason that you would NEED to pay for sex. There are plenty of women in Moscow who are under served and welcome the opportunity for sex. Even with foreigners. Having said that, there are plenty of reasons why some local residents prefer to pay for sex but that's not what's at issue. AND, just because you don't pay for sex it doesn't mean that it's free. If you catch my meaning. To quote the late great Pizdyets,"Just because you don't pay for pussy, doesn't mean it's free".As a first timer only here on business for a couple weeks, I couldn't agree more. And part of the reason why it's not so easy to post a lot is because these women fuck so good there's no strength left for ISG. I haven't had much sleep since my lady started jumping me last Saturday. For my part, I'm not interested in the mechanical sex of a working girl (that's a common observation of Russian girls outside of this land, not just my experience) when a freebie will fuck me blind. But make no mistake, this freebie requires a lot of maintenance, as noted above. There's no question of who pays for EVERYTHING. I may be in bankruptcy court by the time I get home but right now who cares? :p
The Tanuki
Stravinsky
04-18-12, 15:27
The most important thing in life is how to spend money and which result gets by money. All the rest are fairy tales. If men are happy to pay billions dollars for normal sex, I never want to be one of them.Well, I think there are more important things in life than how to spend money.
Why are you so obsessed with P4P? All sex must be paid for, in one way or another. If some guy chooses to make the transaction simple and pay cash money, then why should this be a problem for you? What's with the billions of dollars? I have never met any working girl in Moscow who was a drug addict, or, at least, did not appear to be one. I'm sure they exist, but you will need to make an effort to search them out.
I originally responded to your statement that,"Prostitutes in central Moscow are expensive and dangerous as I reported in my past posts." The going rate for full service sex in Moscow is about 3, 000 rubles / hour, which is roughly 100 USD. Do you think 100 USD is expensive? If that's true, then I certainly don't want to be hanging out with you. It is possible to find women who will do the deed for less than that, but I personally wouldn't have the stomach for it.
And where did you get the idea that Moscow is dangerous? I don't feel any more threatened walking around central Moscow than I would mid-town Manhattan, or any other major world capital. And I certainly have never had a problem with any transaction that I've had with a working girl in Moscow. But then, I don't walk around with your attitude. Maybe it's something about the way you deal with people that causes problems for you?
And where did you get the idea that Moscow is dangerous? I don't feel any more threatened walking around central Moscow than I would mid-town Manhattan, or any other major world capital. And I certainly have never had a problem with any transaction that I've had with a working girl in Moscow. But then, I don't walk around with your attitude. Maybe it's something about the way you deal with people that causes problems for you?I never felt in danger in Moscow, only intimidated because it was my first visit to a world that was not Western. As soon as I get a solid foundation in kindergarten Russian, I would like to return.
Please, enlight me. Everything in life has a price. But there is a big difference between a vodka together and a 100$ for a quickie. Moreover there is a whole world in the middle between occasional tourists and resident men in former USSR. Therefore it is necessary to keep clear those differences. Instead here people usually make a soup of everything. Thanks for the patience. Smile.Aco. You bring up an EXCELLENT point. Let me expand on what I meant by my statement about some guys who prefer to pay for sex. I have local Russian friends and colleagues who visit girls in working apartments on a regular basis. For local Muscovites, this seems to be the favored method. Some go back to the same girl every week and others prefer to mix it up a little. Either way, these guys (who are married with families) don't get what they need at home and prefer the uncomplicated nature of visiting a working girl in her apartment. No fuss, no muss, no drama. Wham, Bam, Thank you Ma'am. He goes home for dinner with the family with a big smile on his face. To him, it's money well spent.
Could he go to a bar and pick up a freebie girl for sex? Absolutely. Could he develop a relationship with a girl who he could maintain as his mistress? Undoubtedly. But he does not because his life is complicated enough with his wife, two kids and mother-in-law (who lives with them in his 100 sq meter flat) to worry about the hassle and energy (no to mention expense) required to keep a girlfriend. For him, P4P serves a purpose and is good value for Ruble.
Now, Russians with big bucks will have a girl they sponsor. They will pay her rent and give her money for clothes, makeup, etc. It's not prostitution STRICTLY speaking but let's not fool ourselves about the nature of the relationship. She's basically on call to fuck him whenever he wants her to. After a hard day at the investment bank, he calls her up, maybe takes her to dinner and then takes her back to her place and pounds her silly. Of course, when he tires of her he just throws her back and picks out a newer model.
Now take me. I am foreign, speak reasonable Russian, I live alone and have a comfortable amount of disposable income and plenty of free time. For me, it's infinitely more interesting to play the game of meeting girls, seducing them and getting them into bed. Sure, I could pay for it. And when I was coming to Moscow for only a week or two at a time I DID pay for it. I HAD to pay for it because I did not have the time to invest to playing the game to meet and woo these girls. And trust me, if you have your sights set on screwing a freebie girl 25. 30 years younger than you are you NEED to invest some time.
AColonizer
04-19-12, 12:13
omg i know very well everything you wrote! it seems i write the same matters but in an aseptic way to understand. i think i made some more steps than most men.
one more step is about socalled "wife" (for the conformist western consumism). you have rightly written about wives. when wives don't behave like women after marriage, then this is the main problem. also women like a lot of sex. russian women want much more sex than other women. when russian wives change their behaviour for their own convenience (of course) , then russian husbands could change woman the day after. in fact, until some years ago, divorces were very easy and they were about 66% of marriages. therefore i think socalled "wives" should not be a problem in former ussr. i think it is an excuse in that case because men would like to have a harem with at least four horny wives. therefore men add mistakes to mistakes and they complicate their own lives.
moreover we are talking about old-style relationships viewed by an old-style point of view. in fact i see the male / female relationships of new generations are changing in western world and i see ****d girls behave as the horniest russians. unfortunately, they are too young for us.
here all of us could write and write again infinite reasons and opinions, most of them are lies to ourselves. but everything written in this forum about females, women and prostitutes, is summarized by two witty italian sayings:
- 1.
oh, my friend, in the world there are two categories of women only: the flying women and the bitches.
(the friend) really?
yes. did you ever see any woman who flies?
(the friend) no, i never saw that.
oh, but then all of them are just bitches!
- 2.
there is one woman by whom a man gets children, and there are all of rest women in the world by whom a man gets filthy sex.
aco. you bring up an excellent point. let me expand on what i meant by my statement about some guys who prefer to pay for sex. i have local russian friends and colleagues who visit girls in working apartments on a regular basis. for local muscovites, this seems to be the favored method. some go back to the same girl every week and others prefer to mix it up a little. either way, these guys (who are married with families) don't get what they need at home and prefer the uncomplicated nature of visiting a working girl in her apartment. no fuss, no muss, no drama. wham, bam, thank you ma'am. he goes home for dinner with the family with a big smile on his face. to him, it's money well spent.
could he go to a bar and pick up a freebie girl for sex? absolutely. could he develop a relationship with a girl who he could maintain as his mistress? undoubtedly. but he does not because his life is complicated enough with his wife, two kids and mother-in-law (who lives with them in his 100 sq meter flat) to worry about the hassle and energy (no to mention expense) required to keep a girlfriend. for him, p4p serves a purpose and is good value for ruble.
now, russians with big bucks will have a girl they sponsor. they will pay her rent and give her money for clothes, makeup, etc. it's not prostitution strictly speaking but let's not fool ourselves about the nature of the relationship. she's basically on call to fuck him whenever he wants her to. after a hard day at the investment bank, he calls her up, maybe takes her to dinner and then takes her back to her place and pounds her silly. of course, when he tires of her he just throws her back and picks out a newer model.
now take me. i am foreign, speak reasonable russian, i live alone and have a comfortable amount of disposable income and plenty of free time. for me, it's infinitely more interesting to play the game of meeting girls, seducing them and getting them into bed. sure, i could pay for it. and when i was coming to moscow for only a week or two at a time i did pay for it. i had to pay for it because i did not have the time to invest to playing the game to meet and woo these girls. and trust me, if you have your sights set on screwing a freebie girl 25. 30 years younger than you are you need to invest some time.
Russian men don't dally because their not getting any at home. They do it because: Feeling age creep up, dally with a younger woman and feel the years disappear; finally successful financially, dally with those blondes who used to give you the finger when you looked at them or whom you ignored during your work till you drop years; Nouveau riche, already travel, new car, jewelry, nice clothes, but wait! Disposable income = multitudes of young women. Russian men shack up with younger girls because they can and because it strokes their ego, which makes them normal men."Not getting any at home" is just the myth that men have created to justify their actions. What do Russian men like? They like driving by a bus stop in their Mercedes and rolling down the window and checking out a gorgeous girl, probably in University. 18-22, inviting her to come chat, inviting her into the car. That feeling of POWER. Arguably better than actual sex.
AColonizer
04-20-12, 15:17
People forgot I got experience directly from the inside life of two hardcore prostitutes.
In few words:
- yes. 100$ for pussy condomed fucking / first hour is expensive, because the same young and sweet girl receives 30 cm ass fisting by a filthy elder for the same price / first hour. Men should decide: is that a Lada car with the price of a BMW car, or is that a BMW car with the price of a Lada car? This applies to Moscow and any other big towns in the world. And more expensive doesn't always mean more quality at all!
- the price inflation in sex market is a problem for all men, or don't you mind to pay 1000$ tomorrow instead of 100$ of today?
- "I have never met any working girl in Moscow who was a drug addict, or, at least, did not appear to be one." Try to guess (and I see with my own eyes) , if they are Oscar award actresses about contracting the muscles in simulated orgasms, how many probabilities can they act as two or three different women with two or three different lives?
- about the danger, I haven't talked in general, I have reported which type of danger I found in Moscow and specifically in "salons". Anyway, a common sense in travelling is always wise.
Well, I think there are more important things in life than how to spend money.
Why are you so obsessed with P4P? All sex must be paid for, in one way or another. If some guy chooses to make the transaction simple and pay cash money, then why should this be a problem for you? What's with the billions of dollars? I have never met any working girl in Moscow who was a drug addict, or, at least, did not appear to be one. I'm sure they exist, but you will need to make an effort to search them out.
I originally responded to your statement that,"Prostitutes in central Moscow are expensive and dangerous as I reported in my past posts." The going rate for full service sex in Moscow is about 3, 000 rubles / hour, which is roughly 100 USD. Do you think 100 USD is expensive? If that's true, then I certainly don't want to be hanging out with you. It is possible to find women who will do the deed for less than that, but I personally wouldn't have the stomach for it.
And where did you get the idea that Moscow is dangerous? I don't feel any more threatened walking around central Moscow than I would mid-town Manhattan, or any other major world capital. And I certainly have never had a problem with any transaction that I've had with a working girl in Moscow. But then, I don't walk around with your attitude. Maybe it's something about the way you deal with people that causes problems for you?
JayHighFive
04-21-12, 16:26
I am thinking of going to Russia this summer for some mongering. I hear a perception that black guys are not welcome. Is that true. How would a black american be treated? Would the girls go with me, Is it dangerous? Thaks for the info.
Jayhighfive
Nille Copenhagen
04-21-12, 16:38
I am thinking of going to Russia this summer for some mongering. I hear a perception that black guys are not welcome. Is that true. How would a black american be treated? Would the girls go with me, Is it dangerous? Thaks for the info.
JayhighfiveBlack is black!
Dangerous? I believe the girls think black guys are dangerous.
What is your plan? Escort, freebies or pick up pro at the clubs?
I think you have better chances if you can talk to the girls first,
So they can feel comfortable with you. (They don't speak much English, though)
I am thinking of going to Russia this summer for some mongering. I hear a perception that black guys are not welcome. Is that true. How would a black american be treated? Would the girls go with me, Is it dangerous? Thaks for the info.
JayhighfiveI saw a few in Moscow. Do not expect any political correctness. As long as you do not go into gopnick rural areas and follow the rules, you will be find. Now Jay, we both know that no matter where you go in the world, there will be women looking for black meat.
I saw a few in Moscow. Do not expect any political correctness. As long as you do not go into gopnick rural areas and follow the rules, you will be find. Now Jay, we both know that no matter where you go in the world, there will be women looking for black meat.You should be fun. Climaxnow right do not expect political correctness from Russian people but at the same time you will meet a couple great ones after drink.
Use caution as in any other place. Let us know how it went.
JayHighFive
04-21-12, 23:27
Thanks guys. So you guys don't think I will have problems with meeting the girls. In general the working girls will fuck me?
You should be fun. Climaxnow right do not expect political correctness from Russian people but at the same time you will meet a couple great ones after drink.
Use caution as in any other place. Let us know how it went.
In general the working girls will fuck me?About working girls, keep in mind that prostitutes in FSU often have the worst traits of P4P. Rather cold, arrogant and full of themselves.
It's not to discourage you, but if you go in Moscow solely to fuck hoes, you're all wrong. Go in a German FKK, there is tons of slayou'll save money and you will not have through all the hurdles that implies a trip to Russia.
The Tanuki
04-22-12, 10:42
I was treated to quite a show at Petrovich last night. Sorry, Manotje, but the logistics weren't there to invite you over. My local squeeze and I got in around 9:30 and got a table by 10, right next to the dance floor. There were a few ladies around, but after 12 the place really got rolling. It's a little hard to estimate, but there must've been at least 35 babes hanging around. The guys didn't seem to want to play much, so mostly they danced with each other. Toss out the 2 outlyers (a couple fat girls) and the rest were all solid 8-9. Just awesome. My date wasn't feeling so great so she told me to dance with them (but not go home with them hahahaha) so I did a few songs with some appreciative women. Never seen such an array available. It's shooting fish in a barrel there.
Got back to the hotel around 4:30 and had my lights fucked out. I'm bumming that I have to leave town tomorrow. My opinion is adjusted and I have to say this has been the best sex of my life here. Then when I wake up with a morning woody, she tells me she loves me when I fuck her. JFC it's unreal.
Out and about for my last day in heaven. You guys enjoy what you have here and I'll be back again someday.
Cheers.
The Tanuki
I was treated to quite a show at Petrovich last night.Petrovitch is a great place, typically Russian, and 1000 times more fun than the glam clubs. Good clientele with many happy, drunk and fun loving dyevs. Too bad it's a member-only club, as the only way to get in is a priori, unless you have a male friend who is a member there, to be with a girl who has the member card, and therefore to be accompanied.
JayHighFive
04-22-12, 12:58
Hi Nille,
My plan is to pick a working girl at a club. I have been places where some girls wouldn't talk to black guys. What do you think about the working girls in clubs there?
Black is black!
Dangerous? I believe the girls think black guys are dangerous.
What is your plan? Escort, freebies or pick up pro at the clubs?
I think you have better chances if you can talk to the girls first,
So they can feel comfortable with you. (They don't speak much English, though)
Nille Copenhagen
04-22-12, 13:16
Hi Nille,
My plan is to pick a working girl at a club. I have been places where some girls wouldn't talk to black guys. What do you think about the working girls in clubs there?They don't want to talk to you? I'm curious what do they do to excuse themselves?
You could go to NF www.nightflight.ru And talk to the girls they are more expensive, but I'm sure if you show them the money they would go with you. You could also visit 911Aurora stripclub (Many nice girls, there are some nice black girls there as well) and take the girls to the room for 1 hour.
Delta Indigo
04-22-12, 14:31
Hi Nille,
My plan is to pick a working girl at a club. I have been places where some girls wouldn't talk to black guys. What do you think about the working girls in clubs there?I myself have not been to Russia because I am mildy worried about the hostility against non whites. However this is on the part of hooligans and not women per se.
I have been all over Eastern Europe, admittedly I am not black but brown, and had no problems with girls, working or otherwise. I would say in Eastern Europe it give you somewhat of an advantage.
I would not worry about the women, but you should maybe stick to the safe tourist areas in terms of general safety, but a lot of other people can give you better advice on that than I can.
Out of curiosity, where have you been that the girls would not talk to black guys? I have never experienced this in Europe, and I have been to many places.
JayHighFive
04-22-12, 21:07
I had a horrible time in Zurich. I went to one of the flat rate FKK's and almost none of the girls would go with me but they went with other guys. I also went to the famous street that has the working girls and the same thing. Not all but almost all wouldn't even speak to me. It was not just white girls though. Brazilian and Asians. I have been all over too and never seen anything like that. It must be a Zurich thing.
I myself have not been to Russia because I am mildy worried about the hostility against non whites. However this is on the part of hooligans and not women per se.
I have been all over Eastern Europe, admittedly I am not black but brown, and had no problems with girls, working or otherwise. I would say in Eastern Europe it give you somewhat of an advantage.
I would not worry about the women, but you should maybe stick to the safe tourist areas in terms of general safety, but a lot of other people can give you better advice on that than I can.
Out of curiosity, where have you been that the girls would not talk to black guys? I have never experienced this in Europe, and I have been to many places.
JayHighFive
04-22-12, 21:09
Thanks Nillie for the info. Pretty much when I tried to talk to a girl they would just ignore me as if I wasn't there. It was very uncomfortable. I am going to try the places you told me. If you have any other recommendation please feel free to let me know.
They don't want to talk to you? I'm curious what do they do to excuse themselves?
You could go to NF.
www.nightflight.ru
And talk to the girls they are more expensive, but I'm sure if you show them the money they would go with you. You could also visit 911Aurora stripclub (Many nice girls, there are some nice black girls there as well) and take the girls to the room for 1 hour.
Delta Indigo
04-23-12, 10:28
I had a horrible time in Zurich. I went to one of the flat rate FKK's and almost none of the girls would go with me but they went with other guys. I also went to the famous street that has the working girls and the same thing. Not all but almost all wouldn't even speak to me. It was not just white girls though. Brazilian and Asians. I have been all over too and never seen anything like that. It must be a Zurich thing.This is really strange indeed. You say all the girls? This is bizarre behaviour even from one girl. I have never been in Zurich for that, but have been in Vienna many times. I wonder if something was up that night or if it was late at night or so.
Passepartout
04-23-12, 20:05
Now take me. I am foreign, speak reasonable Russian, I live alone and have a comfortable amount of disposable income and plenty of free time. For me, it's infinitely more interesting to play the game of meeting girls, seducing them and getting them into bed. Sure, I could pay for it. And when I was coming to Moscow for only a week or two at a time I DID pay for it. I HAD to pay for it because I did not have the time to invest to playing the game to meet and woo these girls. And trust me, if you have your sights set on screwing a freebie girl 25. 30 years younger than you are you NEED to invest some time.I am in the same position as yours Jake, but with a small difference: I still love to pay for sex. I have 2 regular girlfriend, plus several occasional girlfriends I like to seduce, fuck and then, for several reasons, say ciao, but I still appreciate to pay for sex, for basically the same reasons you described for the russians papas: no hassle, if you want anal you get anal, if you want small boobs you get small boobs, etc. Sometimes I am simply too lazy to seduce again, again and again.
By the way, I would appreciate to go with you one Saturday night to Petrovitch. Each time I went there, I was already with some nice company so I was never able to please these nice ladies who are looking at you without even trying to hide it.
I am in the same position as yours Jake, but with a small difference: I still love to pay for sex. I have 2 regular girlfriend, plus several occasional girlfriends I like to seduce, fuck and then, for several reasons, say ciao, but I still appreciate to pay for sex, for basically the same reasons you described for the russians papas: no hassle, if you want anal you get anal, if you want small boobs you get small boobs, etc. Sometimes I am simply too lazy to seduce again, again and again.Yeah you have a good point. Sometimes, the girl friends get tiresome and I am not in the mood to put up with all of the baggage that comes with non-P4P sex. I have often been tempted recently to wander down to the salon or call up a girl from Rusdosug. Maybe even pull one out of NF. Just for a switch.
By the way, I would appreciate to go with you one Saturday night to Petrovitch.Let's do it! Send me a PM some time and let's get it on the calendar.
The Tanuki
04-24-12, 08:12
Yeah you have a good point. Sometimes, the girl friends get tiresome and I am not in the mood to put up with all of the baggage that comes with non-P4P sex. I have often been tempted recently to wander down to the salon or call up a girl from Rusdosug. Maybe even pull one out of NF. Just for a switch.And the P4P looked like it can be cheaper than the "freebies" in Moscow. I'm not complaining about my situation there, as it was way over the top. But I dropped a major load of cash in the process of keeping a high-maintenance shag with me for 2 weeks.
The Tanuki
Passepartout
04-24-12, 22:13
Let's do it! Send me a PM some time and let's get it on the calendar.Dogovarilis (agreed!) I'll do it.
And the P4P looked like it can be cheaper than the "freebies" in Moscow. I'm not complaining about my situation there, as it was way over the top. But I dropped a major load of cash in the process of keeping a high-maintenance shag with me for 2 weeks.
The TanukiYeah, but it was all worth it. Right? . (grin grin)
The Tanuki
04-25-12, 10:11
Yeah, but it was all worth it. Right? . (grin grin)I would do it again starting right now if I could. :D
TT
I'm Native American and very dark. My experiences: stick to the tourist areas of the city and don't wander around on the streets drunk and NEVER cut through the many small parks at night where you small groups of people drinking and talking. Stick to the streets. Stay off the streets completely if there is a football match. There are bad guys roaming the streets and hanging out in these small parks who will target dark people in general (and confuse you with someone from Africa, as there are many African students studying in Moscow). In general, I would say the Moscow girls who are around the center don't care about your skin color and might even think it a plus, especially when they learn you are American and if you can dance. But be prepared to be asked how big your cock is or to have it examined, and be prepared to be disappointed if they think it is too big (although I did meet one girl one time who, after she was drunk, confessed she had a fantasy about having sex with a horse, because she wanted the biggest one she would find. Another story). Also be prepared to be called a "nigger" as in Russia that is not considered to be pejorative. It is the general term they use for black people. So if you overhear a Russian you have met talking about you and you hear her say on the phone "I have met a nigger" don't be angry. She is just saying you are black and not insulting you. It is still unusual for Russians to see black people, so you might be stared at. And if you see other black people they are probably from Africa. In both Moscow and St Pb I have seen Russian girls walking with black men, arm in arm, as bf / gf, in clubs, restaurants, and no one was giving them much of a look.
MichaelGage
04-26-12, 09:41
All of us agree with you. In fact that is seduction, that isn't mongering or P4P. It is important to repeat that difference. I think when somebody says "Moscow is not for mongering.", he says a big truth, because Moscow is for regular fucking relationships. In fact in Moscow I fucked more normal girls than prostitutes. Prostitutes in central Moscow are expensive and dangerous as I reported in my past posts.High quality "mongering" is still available for $100 for 2 hours. You just need introduced to the world of girls below the tourist belt.
Informative post skwiskwis! I'm a German mulatto in my mid 20ties. The Russian girls might not care, but what is with men? I'm fine with staying at home on special occasions like football matches, Hitlers birthday etc. But appart from that is it possible to be integrated into society as a coloured to a certain degree? Stuff like beeing a member of a tennis club, making day / weekend trips to nature parks, going to public swimming places or grilling with friend in the park on non-special days?
Also what dick size do the girls usually consider as too big?
Informative post skwiskwis! I'm a German mulatto in my mid 20ties. The Russian girls might not care, but what is with men? I'm fine with staying at home on special occasions like football matches, Hitlers birthday etc. But appart from that is it possible to be integrated into society as a coloured to a certain degree? Having a (male) Russian friends and doing stuff like day / weekend trips to nature parks, joining a tennis club, going to public swimming places or grilling in the park on non-special days?
Also what dick size do the girls usually consider as too big?
High quality "mongering" is still available for $100 for 2 hours. You just need introduced to the world of girls below the tourist belt.That's priceless! And completely true. One of my work colleagues, who is Russian, was giving me shit the other day for focusing exclusively on "top class" girls. He said that "2nd and even 3rd class girls are in great supply and are more eager to make men happy". He promised to take me to a few places where,"such girls congregate for the purpose of obtaining sex". Got to love it. Full report to come after the May holiday weekend.
It occurred to me when writing that last post that just about no one outside of Russia has a clue what the schedule for the May holidays is for this year. Since May 1st (May Day) is on a Tuesday, Mr. Putin has decided that we will all work Saturday April 28th so that we have a three day weekend (Sun-Mon-Tues). And next week, because May 9th (Victory Day) is on a Wednesday this year, we are going to work Wednesday May 2, Thursday May 3, Friday May 4 and Saturday May 5 so that we will have a FOUR day weekend on Sun May 6, Monday May 7th, Tuesday May 8th and Wednesday May 9th. Of course, we still have to work the following Saturday as well (May 12th). Are you confused yet? Only in Russia.
The net result is that if you are looking for girls in Russia anytime between April 29th and May 10th, be prepared for unexpected patterns. Or you can just go to the dacha and drink vodka like me.
JayHighFive
04-27-12, 10:50
Thanks for the information.
Stravinsky
04-27-12, 15:23
High quality "mongering" is still available for $100 for 2 hours. You just need introduced to the world of girls below the tourist belt.Yes, but sadly, one of the benchmark prices for Moscow mongering, минет в машине (blow job in the car) has skyrocketed. From a krisis low of 500 руб ($15) to 1,000 руб ($30) today!
What's this world coming to?
"Normal" Russian girls (and most girls) have no interest in having their cervix bruised by a long penis and are not turned on by the sensation of same during sex (also not interested in having their vaginas stretched or bruised). The whole girl as masochist in sex idea is pure BS : so anything that might poke the girl's cervix or bruise the vagina could be rejected (and keep in mind that for most Russian girls, a black or dark penis LOOKS bigger and more threatening- perception is everything).
I don't have big experiences in Moscow. The few times I have been I have not had any problems in social situations with Russian colleagues (going to clubs, banya, cinema, fitness clubs, parties at homes, etc). Some stares, children pointing, the occasional odd questions, but I've only been to Moscow a few times. My work usually takes me to St Petersburg or Novosibirsk. If you meet with older Russians, who grew up in the Soviet times, you might also find being dark an absolute plus (but not if your from Africa or Vietnam, e. G). As Soviet leaders used to ship in Black Panthers, AIM leaders, blah blah to talk to Russians about how bad America treated its minorities. Also, to my mind, Russians tend to psychologically associate themselves with tragedy, and so are predisposed to be sympathetic and curious about other "tragic" peoples (I. E. Historically oppressed races) and many Russians have read Last of the Mohicans and / or To Kill a Mockingbird in school. Now if you are Jewish, that's an entirely different kettle of fish. As Russians DEFINITELY have some serious issues with Jews (Russians actually distinguish between citizens who are "Russian" and then citizens who are Jewish. They will always refer to someone Jewish as "Jewish" and never as "Russian") and the stereotypes they associate with Jews are right out of the 16th century. But keep in mind there are a lot of Russian guys who are poor / out of work / drunk who can't get laid and if they see you walking down a deserted street or cutting thru a park with a Russian girl they might get it into their head you deserve some payback: "Be careful out there" applies.
Hi guys,
I've read through 100 pages on this forum, very informative. I caught the list of girl friendly hotels and that can maybe expect some (expensive) girls in the lobby of Hyatt and maybe Sheraton Palace?
Is this the norm or the exception for Moscow (girls in the lobby)?
Of course everything is expensive, and I had braced myself for that and even so. Wow, everything is expensive (Hyattat$800-$900 per night is out of the question!).
I'm considering splurging for a couple of days only on a nice hotel and just wondering what the environment would be say at Lotte or Swissotel in terms of any girls in the lobby or hotel bars and / or nightlife right at the hotel. It's down to these two or the Sheraton for me. Assuming they are all girl friendly based on previous posts.
Will be happy to report my experience on my return. Thanks!
The Tanuki
04-27-12, 19:44
. One of my work colleagues, who is Russian, was giving me shit the other day for focusing exclusively on "top class" girls. He said that "2nd and even 3rd class girls are in great supply and are more eager to make men happy". He promised to take me to a few places where,"such girls congregate for the purpose of obtaining sex". Got to love it. Full report to come after the May holiday weekend.OK we're looking forward to hearing about this. Woo Hoo!
TT
Mr Handjob
05-01-12, 08:39
Hi there.
I would like to ask this forum if there is any chance that you might get a Philippine maid to also do extra service like massage, blowjob, or maybe even full service and anal?
I will relocate to Moscow and we will have a maid 3 times a week for house cleaning and laundry. Is there any specific codes to use while conducting interviews? Is there anyone that have any agency to recomend? What is the expected costs to the maid for regular service as well as extra service? Can I trust her not to tell my wife about our little settlement?
There needs to bo a couple of us in this forum that have done this before in Moscow or somewhere else.
Passepartout
05-01-12, 21:00
what the environment would be say at Swissotel in terms of any girls in the lobby or hotel bars and / or nightlife right at the hotel.Each time I went to swisshotel for diner I was able to spot some working girls or at the lobby or at the bar.
Stravinsky
05-02-12, 17:17
Is there any specific codes to use while conducting interviews?без комплексов (without complex(s) ) is the standard Russian code word for a female employee who is willing to go the extra mile. Not sure if a Filipino maid will understand this or not.
Here's some dyeffki "без комплексов"
http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=106093
The Tanuki
05-03-12, 14:20
Hi there.
I would like to ask this forum if there is any chance that you might get a Philippine maid to also do extra service like massage, blowjob, or maybe even full service and anal?
I will relocate to Moscow and we will have a maid 3 times a week for house cleaning and laundry. Is there any specific codes to use while conducting interviews? Is there anyone that have any agency to recomend? What is the expected costs to the maid for regular service as well as extra service? Can I trust her not to tell my wife about our little settlement?
There needs to bo a couple of us in this forum that have done this before in Moscow or somewhere else.Dude, you're playing with fire and gasoline together there. You are that woman's employer, so a lot of countries have laws protecting the rights of the employee. Filipinas are maids all over the world, and believe me they talk about everything that happens. So they know what they can do to you if they need. You lose the control and she gains it. Also, she's only going to fuck you if she is getting something out of that, which is money, money and green cards to someplace other than her home country. As soon as she's not seeing any of those options headed her way, the pussy is cut off and your wife will suddenly know all about it. It's totally a no-win scenario for you in the end. Is a little in-house nookie worth all that? You can find more about this in the Singapore and Hong Kong threads. If you need some discreet pussy, there are much better options, as duly noted here in this forum.
TT
Dude, you're playing with fire and gasoline together there.
TTTanuki. You are soooooo right. I know of a case in particular that is unfolding at this very minute involving a Fillipino maid and a divorce. The estranged wife is paying the maid of her separated husband to spy on him. What's ironic is that him screwing the maid is what lead to the break up in the first. This idiot was not only fucking her but did not have the good sense to fire her once he stopped fucking her. The maid is feeling scorned and is selling information to the soon to be ex-wife and he has no clue it's happening. And how do "I" know? Because my fillipino maid is friends with this maid's sister who is telling her EVERYTHING! Of course I really should give this guy a "heads up", but he's such a dick that he deserves what he gets. But that's beside the point.
DO NOT FUCK THE HELP. IT'S NOT WORTH IT!
In the USA? Well, maybe but in Moscow there is absolutely no need for it.
Gentleman Travel
05-16-12, 17:19
I have a lady friend in Moscow who does Trade Show / Marketing Support style work and is looking for contract work.
I have used her for a variety of projects for myself and other Canadian companies and she has always done good work for us.
My projects in Russia ended a year ago, and she has done a series of contracts for different trade shows since, and is back on the market as of next week, so I would like to help connect her with other work.
I know many of you guys have business interests or projects in Russia, and if you do not have local staff, maybe she could help your business.
Her experience is mostly communications, marketing, PR activities and project management. When needed, she recruits other friends for other functions.
She is a charming young lady (27) and reasonably industrious. Adequate English, at least for written / email communications.
She is used to working on a variety of small contracts to make ends meet, and is a pretty economical way to get "boots on the ground" in Moscow.
Anyone interested, please PM me and I will put you in contact.
Thanks,
GT
Stravinsky
05-17-12, 15:24
GT,
Just curious, is she a civilian? Or a partisan?
Gentleman Travel
05-17-12, 18:38
GT,
Just curious, is she a civilian? Or a partisan?I am not sure I understand your question Strav.
Do you mean "is she a pro or semi-pro"? Then the answer is NO, she is a civilian.
A nice girl I tried to pick up a few years ago, failed to score but developed a friendship.
Then recruited her to help when I needed on the ground support for that project in Russia we discussed before.
She would NOT accept work if she was expected to provide sex in return.
However, that said, she is probably susceptible to the charms of someone making her life better.
Stravinsky
05-17-12, 19:14
She would NOT accept work if she was expected to provide sex in return.
However, that said, she is probably susceptible to the charms of someone making her life better.That's what I wanted to know.
I have a lady friend in Moscow who does Trade Show / Marketing Support style work and is looking for contract work.
I have used her for a variety of projects for myself and other Canadian companies and she has always done good work for us.
My projects in Russia ended a year ago, and she has done a series of contracts for different trade shows since, and is back on the market as of next week, so I would like to help connect her with other work.
I know many of you guys have business interests or projects in Russia, and if you do not have local staff, maybe she could help your business.
Her experience is mostly communications, marketing, PR activities and project management. When needed, she recruits other friends for other functions.
She is a charming young lady (27) and reasonably industrious. Adequate English, at least for written / email communications.
She is used to working on a variety of small contracts to make ends meet, and is a pretty economical way to get "boots on the ground" in Moscow.
Anyone interested, please PM me and I will put you in contact.
Thanks,
GTHey GT. Is this the girl I THINK it is? From a year ago?
Gentleman Travel
05-18-12, 15:25
Hey GT. Is this the girl I THINK it is? From a year ago?Yes, I recall you were too much of a gentleman to put on your "full court press" with Nadia.
Why, do you need marketing / admin assistance, or know someone who does?
Hi,
Visited Moscow for 3 days on business.
Looked at all wesites.
My best advise to you my fellows is to avoid the pics. They are all fake.
After talking to the girls who show up I could learn that in some cases it is to protect the girls.
One of the Madams told me up front on our telephone talk that she will send another one. Not the one I asked for.
I can provide you some telephone number if you will PM me.
Hi friends, anyone can confirm presence of escort in the lobby in this hotel? Number and quality?
Thanks.
Bye
Hi friends, anyone can confirm presence of escort in the lobby in this hotel? Number and quality?
Thanks.
ByeYes, there are most certainly escort girls on the lobby bar of the Golden Ring. If you don't see any you like, have a word with the doorman. NOT the concierge but the guys outside hailing taxis. As far a quality goes, anywhere from 5. 8 depending on the night. Good luck.
Ronaldinjo
05-23-12, 23:22
Yes, there are most certainly escort girls on the lobby bar of the Golden Ring. If you don't see any you like, have a word with the doorman. NOT the concierge but the guys outside hailing taxis. As far a quality goes, anywhere from 5. 8 depending on the night. Good luck.Dear friends, I'm flying to moscow soon. What are your best advices for hottest girls? Aurora? Paradise? Something else.
I just spent 3 weeks in Moscow. If you like high end semi pro hoes go to clubs: "Soho Rooms","Barbados". Club "Rai" used to be decent but closed. Keep in mind you have to dress very sharp to get in. Easiest thing to do is to get a table there and dinner first. Also "Oblaka" is a nice place on Thursday nights. Bring your best game on, and keep in mind they are not like NightFlight, not every girl is working, but many many Gucci clad babes are looking for sugar daddies.
Dear friends, I'm flying to moscow soon. What are your best advices for hottest girls? Aurora? Paradise? Something else.Can you be more specific? What are you after? Strippers? Prostitutes? Normal girls? Please specify. How long are you in Moscow for? How much do you want to spend? Where are you staying? Hotel? Apartment? Help us help you. Otherwise read the forum.
Ronaldinjo
05-25-12, 17:15
Can you be more specific? What are you after? Strippers? Prostitutes? Normal girls? Please specify. How long are you in Moscow for? How much do you want to spend? Where are you staying? Hotel? Apartment? Help us help you. Otherwise read the forum.I'm comming for 3-4 days. I'm mostly to stippers and pros, but really beautiful ones and young. As I know moscow is expensive my budjet is about 500$/the, but I'm flexible. Looking for quality and not quantity. One or 2 stripper or pro will suffice for a whole trip. What would you suggest me Jake?
I'm comming for 3-4 days. I'm mostly to stippers and pros, but really beautiful ones and young. As I know moscow is expensive my budjet is about 500$/the, but I'm flexible. Looking for quality and not quantity. One or 2 stripper or pro will suffice for a whole trip. What would you suggest me Jake?Ronaldinjo. For quality strippers, try Aurora 911, Penthouse and The Loft (Loft is across the street from Crown Plaza). All three have sex on site available if that's what you would like. At $500 a pop you will get some nice stuff. Outside the strip clubs you might troll.
www.rusdosug.com
And see if there's anything that tickles your fancy. You have to go down a couple of pages though because the first page is often crowded by African girls (not that there's anything wrong with African girls) and some people get the impression that it's a site mainly for Africans. Not true. There are also some high end girls that can be found on the internet. Non come to mind right away but let me think for a bit. Of corse, you SHOULD try Night Flight once just to see it. You may be pleasantly surprised as it's summer time and there are often some visiting girls who come to NF to earn some extra cash.
Good luck and have fun!
Jake
Ronaldinjo. For quality strippers, try Aurora 911, Penthouse and The Loft (Loft is across the street from Crown Plaza). All three have sex on site available if that's what you would like. At $500 a pop you will get some nice stuff. Outside the strip clubs you might troll.
www.rusdosug.com
Good luck and have fun!
JakeI browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?
Thank you.
Ronaldinjo
05-29-12, 11:25
Ronaldinjo. For quality strippers, try Aurora 911, Penthouse and The Loft (Loft is across the street from Crown Plaza). All three have sex on site available if that's what you would like. At $500 a pop you will get some nice stuff. Outside the strip clubs you might troll.
www.rusdosug.com
And see if there's anything that tickles your fancy. You have to go down a couple of pages though because the first page is often crowded by African girls (not that there's anything wrong with African girls) and some people get the impression that it's a site mainly for Africans. Not true. There are also some high end girls that can be found on the internet. Non come to mind right away but let me think for a bit. Of corse, you SHOULD try Night Flight once just to see it. You may be pleasantly surprised as it's summer time and there are often some visiting girls who come to NF to earn some extra cash.
Good luck and have fun!
JakeThanks Jake. I might go once or max. Twise to strip clubs, so if you could choose only one which is the best club (aurora? Penthouse? Loft?) with best looking girl and best service? Is 500$ will suffice for pop and entrance and drink or what amount of money I should expect to spend for one beautiful girl? What is one hour price? And finally what is night flight? Ordinary club or pro territory?
With respect, Ronaldinjo
The Tanuki
05-29-12, 13:43
I browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?It would be interesting to hear from anyone who's partaken of that venue to know more. It certainly looks way too good to be true, with all 3 holes being advertised for such low rates, etc. But stranger things have happened in this world. Maybe we're missing out on a real good deal without knowing. Personally I'm suspicious. If I hadn't been getting my brains fucked out while I was there, I might've been tempted enough to TOFTT. Maybe next time!
The Tanuki (plotting his return visit already.
Thanks Jake. I might go once or max. Twise to strip clubs, so if you could choose only one which is the best club (aurora? Penthouse? Loft?) with best looking girl and best service? Is 500$ will suffice for pop and entrance and drink or what amount of money I should expect to spend for one beautiful girl? What is one hour price? And finally what is night flight? Ordinary club or pro territory?
With respect, RonaldinjoThe Loft, Penthouse and Aurora 911 are all owned by the same group so things are pretty consistent in all three clubs. I personally like Aurora as it's more Russian, whereas a lot of people like Penthouse because it has more of an American feel. The Loft is brand new so it has the BEST looking girls (for now) so that might be the one to try. If you want onsite sex for one hour, it's going to cost you at least $500 when you consider entrance, drinks, private room, and other dances while you are checking out the talent so budget accordingly. Maybe $700 all inclusive.
Night Flight is somewhat of an institution in Moscow. At one time, it was the BEST pro bar in Moscow. Some will say that it still is. Most of the girls there are University students looking to make extra money. I was there a few months ago with a friend who was visiting Moscow for the first time and some of the girls were solid 9's. Very nice indeed. Best nights for the best girls at Night Flight are Tues, Wed, Thurs. Weekends are slow because they tend to cater to foreigners in Moscow on business. It will cost you about $40 entry fee and the girls at Night flight will go home with you for anywhere from $350. $600 depending on quality and your negotiating skills. But be careful, while the Night Flight girls are gorgeous, it has been said that they are ot the best "performers" when it comes to the bedroom so be sure to interview well to avoid surprises.
When are you planning to be in Moscow?
Ronaldinjo
05-30-12, 21:40
The Loft, Penthouse and Aurora 911 are all owned by the same group so things are pretty consistent in all three clubs. I personally like Aurora as it's more Russian, whereas a lot of people like Penthouse because it has more of an American feel. The Loft is brand new so it has the BEST looking girls (for now) so that might be the one to try. If you want onsite sex for one hour, it's going to cost you at least $500 when you consider entrance, drinks, private room, and other dances while you are checking out the talent so budget accordingly. Maybe $700 all inclusive.
Night Flight is somewhat of an institution in Moscow. At one time, it was the BEST pro bar in Moscow. Some will say that it still is. Most of the girls there are University students looking to make extra money. I was there a few months ago with a friend who was visiting Moscow for the first time and some of the girls were solid 9's. Very nice indeed. Best nights for the best girls at Night Flight are Tues, Wed, Thurs. Weekends are slow because they tend to cater to foreigners in Moscow on business. It will cost you about $40 entry fee and the girls at Night flight will go home with you for anywhere from $350. $600 depending on quality and your negotiating skills. But be careful, while the Night Flight girls are gorgeous, it has been said that they are ot the best "performers" when it comes to the bedroom so be sure to interview well to avoid surprises.
When are you planning to be in Moscow?Thank you for information Jack. Planning my visitation either in July or in September / October. When do you think best time to come summer or autumn? Maybe in summer most of moscow beautiful WG will travell to overseas. I will deffinitely will try one of 3 strip clubs, maybe the The Loft if there are best looking girls as you say. And of course Night Flight visitation is on my plan now after your reccomendation. I'm planning to travel for 3-4 days. Jake, is Night Flight close to center? What is the best time to arrive there? 9pm or later? What are percentage of pros there? What are taxy prices from NF to hotel in the centre? Thank you and sorry for anoying questions.
With respect, Ronaldinjo
Stravinsky
05-31-12, 15:47
Ronald,
My advice is to stay away from Night Flight, but if you are bound and determined to go then this is the best strategy. . .
Go to have dinner first, there is no entry fee. Arrive about 20:00. The restaurant is upstairs. You don't need a table, you can be served at the bar. Sit at the bar and have dinner. While you are there, the girls will begin visiting upstairs from the nightclub below. Ostensibly to use the bathrooms, but they are not above checking out who looks ripe for the picking in the restaurant while they are there. It'll give you a chance to gauge the talent available for the night.
After you have finished dinner, had a few drinks and feel like you are ready to be thoroughly sheared, you can head downstairs to the nightclub. There shouldn't be an entry fee if you are coming from the restaurant. Grab a drink and the dyeffki will proposition you. The rest should be pretty much self explanatory.
The best negotiating advice I can give you is to make it very clear to the girl that you will not pay her until after you are satisfied and she leaves, in the morning. That should weed out about 80% of the dyeffki there. If she is willing to agree to that, then you might have a chance at enjoying yourself.
Percentage of pros? 100%
DO NOT take a taxi parked in front of the club, or you will get fleeced (this happens a lot at NF). Politely decline, "Nyet, spasibah" will do. Walk down Tverskaya a ways and wait for a taxi on the boulevard. Taxi fare to a hotel in the center is about 100 руб., but as a tourist, you will probably have to pay 300 руб. If the taxist wants more, may as well walk, it's not that far.
When it's all over, you can add your report about how you got screwed (so to speak) at Night Flight, to the reports of all the other disappointed mongers who suffered the same fate.
Welcome to the club! :)
Ronald,
My advice is to stay away from Night Flight, but if you are bound and determined to go then this is the best strategy. .
Go to have dinner first, there is no entry fee. Arrive about 20:00. The restaurant is upstairs. You don't need a table, you can be served at the bar. Sit at the bar and have dinner. While you are there, the girls will begin visiting upstairs from the nightclub below. Ostensibly to use the bathrooms, but they are not above checking out who looks ripe for the picking in the restaurant while they are there. It'll give you a chance to gauge the talent available for the night.
After you have finished dinner, had a few drinks and feel like you are ready to be thoroughly sheared, you can head downstairs to the nightclub. There shouldn't be an entry fee if you are coming from the restaurant. Grab a drink and the dyeffki will proposition you. The rest should be pretty much self explanatory.
The best negotiating advice I can give you is to make it very clear to the girl that you will not pay her until after you are satisfied and she leaves, in the morning. That should weed out about 80% of the dyeffki there. If she is willing to agree to that, then you might have a chance at enjoying yourself.
Percentage of pros? 100%
DO NOT take a taxi parked in front of the club, or you will get fleeced (this happens a lot at NF). Politely decline,"Nyet, spasibah" will do. Walk down Tverskaya a ways and wait for a taxi on the boulevard. Taxi fare to a hotel in the center is about 100 &1088; &1091; &1073; , but as a tourist, you will probably have to pay 300 &1088; &1091; &1073; . If the taxist wants more, may as well walk, it's not that far.
When it's all over, you can add your report about how you got screwed (so to speak) at Night Flight, to the reports of all the other disappointed mongers who suffered the same fate.
Welcome to the club! .Strav,
When were you at Night Flight last?
With all due respect you are talking out of your ASS!
Ronaldo clearly knows the going price of pussy and has said he will pay, so why steer him away? With a name like Ronaldinjo, he's probably Latino and has plenty of experience at negotiating with the Putas. So why be a kill joy? True, some of the biggest posers and rip off artists are at NF but there are some diamonds there too. The colleague I took there a month ago met a GORGEOUS 28 year old whom he did not take home that night (because we were making the rounds and it was still early). But he got her phone number and met up with her the next night for dinner and 6 hours of wild sex. Turns out she's a realtor and single Mom who needed some attention and some extra money.
So PLEASE don't paint the picture that NF is 100% piranha pit. If it was it would have closed down LONG ago.
Things are not ALWAYS as they appear.
Jake.
PS. Ronaldinjo, if you want any more info from me (who actually lives in Moscow) send me a PM.
MrBoring37
05-31-12, 19:14
1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!
I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.
Poland? Romania? Lativa? Moldova? Belurus? Estonia? Lithuania? New Zealand? Other remote Russian city?
Stravinsky
05-31-12, 19:44
Jake,
My, my, my. . . we are testy today aren't we? Always happy to hear from you, Jake. :)
It's been a long time since we've had any regular intel from the guys on the ground in Moscow. Doc and Pizdyets disappeared long time ago, and the guys who remain are not offering much. . . are they?
In the meantime there has been a flurry of newbies, mostly of the Hi-I-will-be-in-Moscow-next-week-for-3-days-what-should-I-do variety. Of course, they have no desire to avail themselves of the wealth of accumulated experience here, and this has led to a lot of speculation, mainly of the blind-leading-the-blind variety. Apparently now, we are even resorting to racial profiling?
My concern, specifically, is that other guys reading this board will think that 300 or 500 (USD or Euro, what's the diff?) is pretty much the going rate to get laid in Moscow.
As we all know, nothing could be further from the truth. So, I'm simply interjecting a reality check.
I will rain on anyone's parade, anytime I feel like it. I'm sure Ronaldinjo is a big boy and he can make his own choices for himself. If you don't agree, you can always offer your version. That's how the process works usually works.
It's true, I haven't visited Night Flight in a couple years. It's been in a long period of decline for the last 10 years. Last time, there was no one there even remotely do-able (by Russian standards, not American), and they were asking prices that were simply ridiculous. But, maybe I'm wrong (it has happened before) and there has been a tectonic shift in their operation that requires further investigation.
I will leave you with a Sextalk report from a native Muscovite about his experience at Night Flight. Clearly this report is dated: no one has asked 8,000 руб. at NF for a long time. But I think it is still relevant, until proven otherwise.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=791200#post791200
Passepartout
05-31-12, 20:00
I browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?
Thank you.I had plenty of nice to amazing experience at 3000, 4000, 5000 rubles. But I speak Russian so it helps I guess. But I can confirm that 3000 rur can be the entry price for a girl in a medium class bordelo where you can find sometimes the new jem arriving from her province and delighted to have a stranger in her bed. Or you can simply meet the total pro who will do whatever you want for 4000 rur as it is her price and that's it.
Please note that usually 3000 or 4000 is the price for suck and fuck. Any additional service or fantasy is usually a way for the girl to earn more and shall be priced, depending on the service you ask, at 1000 or 2000 rur additional.
Jake93,
I will be visiting Moscow soon but I want to have sex in the club not in my hotel.
Are there any clubs like this?
If yes, which one is the best?
Thanks in advance.
Naykan
The Tanuki
06-02-12, 00:40
1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!
I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.This sounds like you expect to find Gisele Bundchen in the back section at WalMart, buddy. That may not be a realistic expectation in life. The global market rates for WG's have changed in the past few years. Even out here in Asia it's not easy to waltz into town (take your pick: Sing, HK, Beijing, etc) and find good quality shags at the prices we remember from the past. Exceptions happen but are not the norm now. My philosophy is to work at finding the women who I can have a great time with, and not be overly concerned about the cost anymore. Hell, I spent a small fortune on the freebie there in Moscow in April. Can't wait to see her again, either! But you'll have to figure out that balance for yourself. Mostly you'll find that the better research you do ahead of time, you can avoid some of the painful and costly mistakes that the brothers here have shared for your benefit. But for a quick and quality in / out session, I suspect the FKK clubs in Germany should be on your bucket list. I've only been to one in Frankfurt, The Palace, and would highly recommend that. Once you've paid to get in, it's only 50 Euros for the basic fuck. Some of the ladies there are quite good at the trade, too. For Russia though, if you let on to the woman that you're a cheapskate, her opinion of you is going to plummet and you'll lose out on a better time, far as I can see.
The Tanuki
1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!
I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.Tashkent. In freelancers or "occasional" bars and clubs, quality Russian pussy varies from free to 150 us$ (usually for all night). But it's are that you find.
1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!
I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.Tashkent. In freelancers or "occasional" bars and clubs, quality Russian pussy varies from free to 150 us$ (usually for all night). But it's rare that you find a drop-dead gorgeous 9+. The best looking girls are rather 7, 5/8. And don't expect the premises to be at Moscow level, you're in the Stans LOL.
From the Uzbekistan thread ROD:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1039-Tashkent&p=789600#post789600
Spanish Fly
06-02-12, 13:50
Strav,
When were you at Night Flight last?
With all due respect you are talking out of your ASS!Hi there, Jake. Although I don't live permanently in Moscow, I happen to spend a significant time there almost every month. I have been myself in NF around 8 or maybe 10 times in the last year, last time somewhere in April. There is always some new guy / colleague in Moscow who is too lazy for hunting, and want to have a good look of this rather famous place.
In my humble opinion, I am more with Strav. NF has seen much better times. However, food is great, and it is always a good place to have a couple of drinks and a few laughs with some wingman. Something like window-shopping without actually shopping. Before you decide to go to some normal club to hunt for freebies. (yes, I know, I know. Not everybody has the time, energy, age or talent for the game. And I respect that).
However, the best part in NF is that 99% of the girls speak quite nice english. The worst part (for me) is that some of them don't look exactly "fresh". Good looking, sure. VERY good looking? Ok! Granted! But even some of the best looking have a halo of tiredness on their faces. That really gets me down a little bit.
All the previously said, and the problems to get a BBBJ, the usually false "TLN" ("toda la noche". "all-night") and of course the fact that there are usually too many businessmen around, on their first time in Moscow, willing to overpay to go back home and tell their pals that they have fucked a beautiful Russian doll. Leaves the negotiation window quite limited, and mostly restricted to the late-late-late-night where the above mentioned first timers are mostly gone.
I don't know how much your friend paid for that 28 whyear old single mom. Maybe it was good. But do you think that 28 whyear old single MOMS would be NF material only a few years ago? We both now that women in Russia are VERY quickly off the market after 30 (and I mean the "I am looking for a man" market, NOT the pro market) , and literally invisible to men when they are over 35. I would never pay 500 or 600USD in Russia for any girl older than 22 or 23. There is too much competition for them out there.
By they way, I can't remember now. Have we met in Kiev a few years back?
Salud,
SF
My last visit to Moscow. A month ago.
I am always looking at the craiglist and from time to time I manage to find a sweetpie. Never for free.
Hi there, Jake. I am more with Strav. NF has seen much better times. However, food is great, and it is always a good place to have a couple of drinks and a few laughs with some wingman. Something like window-shopping without actually shopping. Before you decide to go to some normal club to hunt for freebies. (yes, I know, I know. Not everybody has the time, energy, age or talent for the game. And I respect that).Spanish Fly,
The problem with email and online communication is that it's easy for us to get the wrong impression about what is being communicated. I completely agree with you and Strav about NF. It's nowhere NEAR the place it was 10 years ago and no, a 28 year old single Mom would NEVER have made it into NF back in the day. And yes, the girls today are a LOT less "fresh" that they once were. All of that I have no issue with. My only real point was the fact that Strav is discouraging a Moscow first timer from visiting Night Flight. I am of the opinion that for a Moscow first time visiting monger it's still a great place to start the evening. As for pulling girls out of there, I am with you guys. Those girls are way past the "sell by" date. And those who DO still look good have a longer list of what they WON'T do that what they WILL do.
Anyhow, we're all on the same page here. Apologies to Strav if I was a bit too hash. Sorry mate, I am getting cranky in my old age.
Happy hunting everyone.
Jake93,
I will be visiting Moscow soon but I want to have sex in the club not in my hotel.
Are there any clubs like this?
If yes, which one is the best?
Thanks in advance.
NaykanNaykan,
Yes absolutely.
Two categories.
Strip clubs and salons.
The 3 most popular Strip Clubs for this purpose are;
Penthouse Club.
Aurora911.
The Loft.
In my opinion the 3 best salons are;
http://www.fantasys.org
http://www.charmel.biz/
www.atell.ru
And all three are in the center of Moscow.
Have fun!
Naykan,
Yes absolutely.
Two categories.
Strip clubs and salons.
The 3 most popular Strip Clubs for this purpose are;
Penthouse Club.
Aurora911.
The Loft.
In my opinion the 3 best salons are;
http://www.fantasys.org
http://www.charmel.biz/
www.atell.ru
And all three are in the center of Moscow.
Have fun!Thank you very much.
I am interested in real massage by a hot girl and later followed by happy ending or sex is better. I am staying in Moscow. I called couple girls from rusdosug and still looking. Any recommendation? Are these girls real? Has any one tried Sandi?
Thanks guys
Avoid the place.
For several reasons :
1. It is overly advertised, and overly priced with 3000 rubles entrance fee and drinks running around the same high rate (350+ for soft drinks and beer)
2. Number and quality of girls are not at a level to compete with clubs in the same range like 911. Read as : less girls, and no real stunners.
3. The promotion thing. 3 for 1 doesn't work. The girl that I took for private dance danced for another 20 seconds after the 2nd song and insisted the promotion was for 2 songs only and asked for extra payment. I had no chance to stop her and leave. I took the matter to the manager, but it was already marked as 4 songs in their book. They insisted I pay.
I paid and left.
It migth still be a choice for a night out if you don't care how much you spend.
Girls are flirty enough to join you while you are enjoying your drink, and there is no push for "buy me a drink". The best ones were occupied though at the tables. The menu read : "keep the girl you like off the stage for 6000 rubles per hour". Apparently some people were paying that amount for multiple girls at a time. Among the 15 or so girls, there was only one drop-dead-georgeus girl who was contantly busy serving drinks at a table and not dancing at all.
Pahllus Maximus
06-05-12, 05:46
I am visting Kiev and then Moscow. I love the almond eyed slavic girls, but have been advised by some old hands as follows:
1. Money is everything. Nothing subtle here. No money or gifts means in her eyes you are a loser and to be jettisoned ASAP.
2. More than one night at your aparatment and bags appear. These girls have a limited shelf life and are on on a mission to bag a well off male. They move in for the kill fast. Apparently they have been told that deep, soft blowjobs turn the male mind to putty (this part is 100% true, that's why we are on this board) and will make us pliable to their agenda. One rumor is that the KGB developed secret methods of blow jobs during the cold war and it has circulated to Russian women who have perfected it to the point that men go insane from pleasure if administered more than three times a day.
3. Forget about women's lib. They want macho males firmly in control.
That's about all I know, and possibly bollocks. Maybe I am stretching it bit. All I want is under 23, almond eyed beauty that uses the BJ: how much to pay for a pretty young thing?
Others say Poland is the way to go, but the almond eye thing seems uniquely Russian by Eastern genes from ancient invasions etc.
Let me know
The Tanuki
06-05-12, 09:47
1. Money is everything. Nothing subtle here. No money or gifts means in her eyes you are a loser and to be jettisoned ASAP.
2. More than one night at your aparatment and bags appear. These girls have a limited shelf life and are on on a mission to bag a well off male. They move in for the kill fast.
3. Forget about women's lib. They want macho males firmly in control.Um, did you create your name in a hurry and happen to misspell 'phallus' by any chance? Hehe.
Having read through a number of threads here, spent an evening drinking / chatting with Jake, and also shagging my brains out with a local woman I met in Moscow, I'd say #1 and #3 are absolutely spot on. It's a man's world and the woman's role is to have us run everything and pay for anything along the way. Weakness is not condoned. Our prize for being a solid man is what I believe to be the best sex on the planet.
#2 is an interesting notion. Granted, in my case I was in a hotel and I did give my lady the extra key, but she never showed up unannounced. She did happen to leave a few things in the room. One was a pair of thong panties that seemed to disappear in the room, to be left by the cleaning ladies on the table later in the day. Another was a toothbrush. Well, it's starting to get close to a suitcase isn't it? Jake also mentioned that since my lady knows folks at a certain club we frequented, that she would've been showing me off to those folks. She's not a 20-something, so I think he made a good point that she showed she could still pull in a guy. And she's patiently waiting there for me to either return or get her a business-class flight to me. So your points may be applicable to my situation all the way around.
For your case, though, I don't know if WG's will fit the bill on this. There are so many really awesome freebies around Moscow that I lost interest in WG's myself. It depends on what your goals are. Quickies of course would be the realm of the pro's, but if you want something better (as in more than a session) , invest your time in other directions and find a civilian. Be prepared to spend a lot and enjoy it.
These rantings are the product of my admittedly brief (almost 3 weeks) foray into the amazing world of Moscow's women. I don't mean to speak for the true vets of the city.
The Tanuki
I am visting Kiev and then Moscow. I love the almond eyed slavic girls, but have been advised by some old hands as follows:
1. Money is everything. Nothing subtle here. No money or gifts means in her eyes you are a loser and to be jettisoned ASAP.
2. More than one night at your aparatment and bags appear. These girls have a limited shelf life and are on on a mission to bag a well off male. They move in for the kill fast. Apparently they have been told that deep, soft blowjobs turn the male mind to putty (this part is 100% true, that's why we are on this board) and will make us pliable to their agenda. One rumor is that the KGB developed secret methods of blow jobs during the cold war and it has circulated to Russian women who have perfected it to the point that men go insane from pleasure if administered more than three times a day.
3. Forget about women's lib. They want macho males firmly in control.
That's about all I know, and possibly bollocks. Maybe I am stretching it bit. All I want is under 23, almond eyed beauty that uses the BJ: how much to pay for a pretty young thing?Bold truths that I can not argue.
Others say Poland is the way to go, but the almond eye thing seems uniquely Russian by Eastern genes from ancient invasions etc.
Let me knowKeep in mind the culture is different in Poland as opposed to Russia or Ukraine. If you are older, it will be harder to score the young ones.
Jake Ripley
06-05-12, 15:53
Visited an old haunt of mine in Moscow last night. I keep hearing about Aurora, The Loft, and the Penthouse Club, but if you're looking for a good time you should also check out Shandra. Went in last night around 11 pm and was one of only about 3 guys in the place. I was told by several of the girls that it doesn't really start getting busy until after midnight. In any case, I got a few dances to sample the goods and ended up going to the backroom with "Christina" a tall, leggy brunette with fantastic natural tits and a Russian ass to die for. The room costs 2, 700 rubles and then another 7, 000 rubles for the girl for an hour of sex. And the sex was awesome. BBBJ, and then on with the condom for cowgirl and fantastic doggy. She was so into it, I was amazed, asking me to spank her and pull her hair. Well, well, worth the stop. Here's a link to the club and a map of the location. A little Russian goes a long way, but some girls will be able to speak pretty good English. Enjoy.
http://shandra.su/
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&q=shandra
+moscow&fb=1&hq=shandra&hnear=0x46b54afc73d4b0c9:0x3d44d6cc5757cf4c, Moscow, +Russia&cid=0, 0.598057856881115979&ei=SxzOT4flEcOn4gSb2dyxDA&oi=local_result&ved=0CA0Q_BIwAw
There are a lot of stunners in Warsaw and half cost comparing to Moscow.
Bold truths that I can not argue.
Keep in mind the culture is different in Poland as opposed to Russia or Ukraine. If you are older, it will be harder to score the young ones.
A friend told me about the place. With not too much thinking I went ther.
Enterence fee 1000 soda 160 and a shot of local vodka 220 (you will never get change back)
It's a top strip club.
So many stunners
Private dance 1000 and one hour in the back room with your choice 12000.
No doubt. Top place.
It just across the street of Crown Plaza World Trade Center.
Hi Mates.
Crude way to start.
I know that I would have done RTTF and gathered some info, but quite occupied, So unable to spend much time on pages.
Would request some help here from Seniors.
1) As first timer, Need help to decide on good GF Hotel
2) Typical rates for ST and LT and best way to pickup girls here. Any clubs / cafes to pickup free-bie.
3) Popular Datings sites (I do not know russina, Only English) to meet local girls who can help see site-seeing etc if no sex. Thats fine with me.
4) Will be great if someone willing to share his contacts / touch connections.
Any punter heading to India, I can extend help here. Ping me anytime.
Cheers.
Inblr01Opinions / Answers.
1. It seems that most hotels these days are girl friendly. Especially in the center and especially if they are from a Western Chain (Hilton, Radisson, Marriott, etc). It's really all about location.
2. ST in salons. 4,500 rubles ($150) per hour. Escorts girls $200. $380 for 2 hours. Overnight $400 to $800 depending on quality etc.
3. Dating sites are tricky because it appears that they are being dominated by pros and semi pros. If you date a girls from.
www.mamba.ru
You should expect to end up parting with cash one way or the other. TheTanuki had great success with a Mamba girl and for his week in Moscow but parted with some serious cash in terms of gifts, dinners etc. Again, nothing wrong with that as long as you know what you are getting yourself into.
www.okcupid.com
Seems good but it's more of a commitment on your part. More of a serious dating site oriented towards relationships. If you are looking for a tour guide, Google Moscow Tour Guide and you will find plenty of nice looking girls to show you around. Might even lead to sex. Who knows.
4.
www.rusdosug.com
Is pretty reliable for escort girls.
General Opinion. You need to better define what your objective is. If you are only on Moscow for a week, then unless you have some serious GAME, you can pretty much forget picking up girls in clubs and screwing them on the first night. The odds are agains you. For that you need a little bit of time. At least 2 dates after initial meet up, maximum 3. If you are after sex in a strip club, can't go wrong with The Loft, Penthouse Club, Aurora or Korston. If you want a salon session. The old standby's are Charm'El, Fantasys, and Atel.
Good luck!
FruitNinja
06-18-12, 12:37
Opinions / Answers.
1. It seems that most hotels these days are girl friendly. Especially in the center and especially if they are from a Western Chain (Hilton, Radisson, Marriott, etc). It's really all about location.
2. ST in salons. 4,500 rubles ($150) per hour. Escorts girls $200. $380 for 2 hours. Overnight $400 to $800 depending on quality etc.
3. Dating sites are tricky because it appears that they are being dominated by pros and semi pros. If you date a girls from.
www.mamba.ru
You should expect to end up parting with cash one way or the other. TheTanuki had great success with a Mamba girl and for his week in Moscow but parted with some serious cash in terms of gifts, dinners etc. Again, nothing wrong with that as long as you know what you are getting yourself into.
www.okcupid.com
Seems good but it's more of a commitment on your part. More of a serious dating site oriented towards relationships. If you are looking for a tour guide, Google Moscow Tour Guide and you will find plenty of nice looking girls to show you around. Might even lead to sex. Who knows.
4.
www.rusdosug.com
Is pretty reliable for escort girls.
General Opinion. You need to better define what your objective is. If you are only on Moscow for a week, then unless you have some serious GAME, you can pretty much forget picking up girls in clubs and screwing them on the first night. The odds are agains you. For that you need a little bit of time. At least 2 dates after initial meet up, maximum 3. If you are after sex in a strip club, can't go wrong with The Loft, Penthouse Club, Aurora or Korston. If you want a salon session. The old standby's are Charm'El, Fantasys, and Atel.
Good luck!Http://www.rusdosug.com/
Some ads are $100 per hour. Scam or?
Http://www.rusdosug.com/
Some ads are $100 per hour. Scam or?Good question. And no, it's not a scam at all. However, for $100 a hour this girls probably won't speak any more English than "hello, how are you"?
And with these (seemingly) bargain girls, look at the list of things they are willing to do (CIM, Oral w / o, Anal, etc) the repertoire is often limited. And don't for get the age. Girls who are 18. 23 command a nice price. Once they get over 25, you can see the prices erode quickly unless they have something special to offer. For example, in addition to the usual Africans (no offense to the brothers and sisters of course) who show up on the first page, there are a handful who make it to the top of the front page. This is no accident. These girls PAY to get their profile near the top. And while their prices are significantly higher and they are often (but not always) over 24 years old, these girls offer the full range and speak good (if not excellent English). And I can tell your from personal experience that these girls are VERY good performers. Excellent GFE and technique too. So you are paying for a pro who could EASILY be working in a top agency but prefers the independence that.
www.rusdosug.com
Offers.
But I digress. The $100 per hours girls are hit or miss. If I am to the point where I need "professional help" I usually hit a salon, pay $150 and choose what suits my fancy that night. I have heard from other guys that these $100 girls can also be very good if they are new to Moscow (from the provinces or other CIS countries). But once they get established, the price goes up.
Hope this helps,
Jake
Attached here a match box I took from the Loft.
A friend told me about the place. With not too much thinking I went ther.
Enterence fee 1000 soda 160 and a shot of local vodka 220 (you will never get change back)
It's a top strip club.
So many stunners
Private dance 1000 and one hour in the back room with your choice 12000.
No doubt. Top place.
It just across the street of Crown Plaza World Trade Center.
Old timers to Moscow will fondly remember "The Hungry Duck". Arguably the wildest of all the Moscow expats hangouts, it was unceremoniously shut down in about 2002 or thereabouts. Among other things the "Duck" was famous for girls spontaneously jumping up and dancing on the bar. Well, it's back. Friday night was the grand opening of the NEW Hungry Duck which is located on Sadovaya-Chernogyazkaya 8/2 near Krasnaya Varota metro stop. It opened up at about 8:00 PM to invited guests and then to the public at 10 PM. The place was absolutely jam packed. This location was formerly "Music Town" but has undergone an extensive renovation that includes a 60 foot long oval bar which can easily accommodate 20+ dancers. The second floor is oriented more towards dining but features a good view of the band stand which is actually elevated and hangs from the wall about 20 feet over the bar. The 3rd floor has a nice Sports Bar feel with flatscreen TV's everywhere plus pool tables and dart boards.
With a little luck this will be a very good expat hang out. And of course, wherever you have expats you have Russian girls. The female to male ratio was easily 2:1 and probably more like 3:1 on opening night. They were broadcasting the Germany vs Greece game which could be seen from just about anywhere because of all the TV screens. I guess the real test will be next weekend to see if the momentum continues. I did not see any Pros but there were plenty of the usual "party girls" there to pretty the place up. By midnight there were people dancing not only on the bar but on the tables as well. Just for nostalgia's sake, a couple of Russian guys got into a fist fight and a non-pro table dancer got so caught up in the moment that she took her top off "molodyets!"
Will it live up to the reputation of the former Duck? Who knows. Only time will tell.
Old timers to Moscow will fondly remember "The Hungry Duck". Arguably the wildest of all the Moscow expats hangouts, it was unceremoniously shut down in about 2002 or thereabouts. Among other things the "Duck" was famous for girls spontaneously jumping up and dancing on the bar. Well, it's back. Friday night was the grand opening of the NEW Hungry Duck which is located on Sadovaya-Chernogyazkaya 8/2 near Krasnaya Varota metro stop. It opened up at about 8:00 PM to invited guests and then to the public at 10 PM. The place was absolutely jam packed. This location was formerly "Music Town" but has undergone an extensive renovation that includes a 60 foot long oval bar which can easily accommodate 20+ dancers. The second floor is oriented more towards dining but features a good view of the band stand which is actually elevated and hangs from the wall about 20 feet over the bar. The 3rd floor has a nice Sports Bar feel with flatscreen TV's everywhere plus pool tables and dart boards.
With a little luck this will be a very good expat hang out. And of course, wherever you have expats you have Russian girls. The female to male ratio was easily 2:1 and probably more like 3:1 on opening night. They were broadcasting the Germany vs Greece game which could be seen from just about anywhere because of all the TV screens. I guess the real test will be next weekend to see if the momentum continues. I did not see any Pros but there were plenty of the usual "party girls" there to pretty the place up. By midnight there were people dancing not only on the bar but on the tables as well. Just for nostalgia's sake, a couple of Russian guys got into a fist fight and a non-pro table dancer got so caught up in the moment that she took her top off "molodyets!"
Will it live up to the reputation of the former Duck? Who knows. Only time will tell.It certainly was an interesting evening and great so see so many young dyevs out having fun and I did not see one WG! AS you say, we have to see what happens this weekend. I'm looking forward to it!
Gentleman Travel
06-25-12, 19:58
old timers to moscow will fondly remember "the hungry duck". arguably the wildest of all the moscow expats hangouts, it was unceremoniously shut down in about 2002 or thereabouts. among other things the "duck" was famous for girls spontaneously jumping up and dancing on the bar. well, it's back. friday night was the grand opening of the new hungry duck which is located on sadovaya-chernogyazkaya 8/2 near krasnaya varota metro stop. it opened up at about 8:00 pm to invited guests and then to the public at 10 pm. the place was absolutely jam packed. this location was formerly "music town" but has undergone an extensive renovation that includes a 60 foot long oval bar which can easily accommodate 20+ dancers. the second floor is oriented more towards dining but features a good view of the band stand which is actually elevated and hangs from the wall about 20 feet over the bar. the 3rd floor has a nice sports bar feel with flatscreen tv's everywhere plus pool tables and dart boards.
with a little luck this will be a very good expat hang out. and of course, wherever you have expats you have russian girls. the female to male ratio was easily 2:1 and probably more like 3:1 on opening night. they were broadcasting the germany vs greece game which could be seen from just about anywhere because of all the tv screens. i guess the real test will be next weekend to see if the momentum continues. i did not see any pros but there were plenty of the usual "party girls" there to pretty the place up. by midnight there were people dancing not only on the bar but on the tables as well. just for nostalgia's sake, a couple of russian guys got into a fist fight and a non-pro table dancer got so caught up in the moment that she took her top off "molodyets!"
will it live up to the reputation of the former duck? who knows. only time will tell.jake, it is good to hear that putin is intent on returning russia to the glories of the "good old days".
but it did not shut down in 2002, i visited there in 2006, although it may have been in a state of decline for many years before that.
in fact, being in a state of decline seems to be the hungry duck's raison the'être. it is all about moral decay!
i guess it was really pretty wild in its prime, but had a charmingly scummy after-taste even when i visited.
here is a snippet of my report from october 2006:
"i arrived on halloween, so i was hopeful there would be some action in the city, despite it being a tuesday night. having noted the dearth of reports about the hungry duck, i decided to take one for the team and visit that venerable establishment, because i heard the tuesday nights they let the dyevs in for two hours of free drinks before unleashing the men on them. so i rolled into the duck at about midnight. i don't know if they had done the 'drinks for dyevs' thing or not, but it was pretty quiet when i got there. i was vastly over-dressed and felt quite out of place. a few dozen people rep001tered around, most of them women, but not much action. there were a couple of good looking girls, but the others were pretty pathetic. still, several were up on the bar dancing, trying to work themselves up to a state of excitement and it looked like if i stayed long enough eventually some of them would do something exciting. i was approached by one girl who clearly wanted to party, but i did not travel 5000 miles to party with ugly girls. then her friend came over, who was a slightly better looking blonde and at least spoke a few words of english, and she wanted to dance and drink also. i suppose i should have bought them drinks and seen what depraved things they would do, but i was afraid the ugly one might take off her clothes and i did not want to start my moscow sojourn on a low note. so after brushing them off, i hung around for a while, then headed for the street, only to be assaulted by the same two girls outside – my last chance for ugly, drunken dyevs from the hungry duck! i passed."
I guess it was really pretty wild in its prime, but had a charmingly scummy after-taste even when I visited.Believe me, by 3:00 AM it was starting to get scummy. They even retained the charming practice of hanging the toilet seats on the wall with a chain in the co-ed toilets. Such nostalgia.
Crazy Travel
07-17-12, 18:39
Hi, maybe some one could solve my problem and help me. I have to stay one night in Moscow (from 17 to 4 of next morning) due to my flight schedule. I was thinking to do something and, as first thought, was thinking to go to fsauna. Ru where I was many years ago, but seemed all changed there.
So. Do someone could help me advising some sauna or massage or something like that to relax one nigh with the attention of some girls (maybe like german fkk.)? I found many saunas (for example I found club-pegas. Ru) in internet but I don't know how to choose and, surprisengly, here I didn't find anything. Please help!
Hi, maybe some one could solve my problem and help me. I have to stay one night in Moscow (from 17 to 4 of next morning) due to my flight schedule. I was thinking to do something and, as first thought, was thinking to go to fsauna. Ru where I was many years ago, but seemed all changed there.
So. Do someone could help me advising some sauna or massage or something like that to relax one nigh with the attention of some girls (maybe like german fkk.)? I found many saunas (for example I found club-pegas. Ru) in internet but I don't know how to choose and, surprisengly, here I didn't find anything. Please help!CT,
Unfortunately, Moscow does not have anything like an FKK. Which in your case would be PERFECT! But sadly, we have nothing that is quite the same. Saunas are a bit tricky and in your case, can be VERY expensive because usually, you must rent the whole sauna and bring in girls etc. The one you mention (fsauna.ru) looks like it has become more of a spa that a fuck place. I know that some would argue with me, but you might be best off visiting one of the high end strip clubs that offers onsite sex. Either that or visit one of the many salons. The problem is that with so much time to spend, you can't really just hang out without racking up quite a bill. What you MIGHT do, is go to either The Loft or Penthouse Club, which have mini-hotels attached and negotiate a multi-hour rate that will allow you to bring one or several girls back. Again, could get pricey but it's an option.
The other thing to do is just rent a regular hotel for a night and pre-arrange to have a girl come over and "entertain" you for several hours. But again, it gets pretty pricey.
Sorry I cannot be of anymore help than that. Anyone else have any ideas?
PS - Sorry, but I just checked out the www.club-pegas.ru) and you MAY be on to something. However, it's in a part of Moscow that I am not sure I would DARE go to. But from the description, it may well be what you are looking for. Man, if I only had the balls to go and check it out!!!
The Tanuki
07-19-12, 07:06
CT,
Unfortunately, Moscow does not have anything like an FKK. Which in your case would be PERFECT!Gawd yes a couple of real FKK's in Moscow. JFC that would be a thing to behold if it ever came to pass.
The other thing to do is just rent a regular hotel for a night and pre-arrange to have a girl come over and "entertain" you for several hours. But again, it gets pretty pricey.
Sorry I cannot be of anymore help than that. Anyone else have any ideas?Get a good room reserved and try out the girls from rusdosug perhaps? I haven't seen any posts from someone who TOFTT but they do have some babes there.
PS - Sorry, but I just checked out the www.club-pegas.ru) and you MAY be on to something. However, it's in a part of Moscow that I am not sure I would DARE go to. But from the description, it may well be what you are looking for. Man, if I only had the balls to go and check it out!!!Jake, I'm close to convincing myself to fly back there next month. If I do it, let's go try this place! :p
The Tanuki
Crazy Travel
07-19-12, 22:09
PS. Sorry, but I just checked out the www.club-pegas.ru) and you MAY be on to something. However, it's in a part of Moscow that I am not sure I would DARE go to. But from the description, it may well be what you are looking for. Man, if I only had the balls to go and check it out!Jake, thanks a lot for all your adice. Really nice your last advice! While reading I was imaging me to take the metro and to go to bratilasvskaya like a fool. Wof, I think I will not go at all! I'll tell if I'll be able to do something, mybe I'll try to find something similiar to pegas more in the center. Even if, after all, I'll be flying back from Bangkok and Macau, so I could even have a rest for one night!
About Fsauna. Ru now even to me it seems to be a normal spa.
Jake, I'm close to convincing myself to fly back there next month. If I do it, let's go try this place! .
The TanukiDone! If you show up in Moscow, I will scare up a car and some body guards and we'll check it out!
Stravinsky
07-29-12, 18:17
Jake, I'm close to convincing myself to fly back there next month. If I do it, let's go try this place!Everything you always wanted to know about Club Pegas. .
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=777656&viewfull=1#post777656
This post is 4 years old, but I imagine not much has changed, unless the place has closed. Probably best to call first, just to make sure they are still open. You'd be amazed at how many disconnected web pages there are to locations in Moscow.
As I recall, there was a huge night club, right next door, that was just getting started as I was leaving Pegas. Lots of chyorni types, mainly, but the women were looking mighty fine, all dressed to kill. Probably closed now.
It is a long way from tsentrom gorodye. There is no Metro stop in the immediate vicinity, so you will have to take a taxi from the Metro stop to the club. But it is not a bad area by any means. It's actually a pretty nice place. At night it was all lit up with restaurants, clubs, and stores still open. Moscow is not one city: it's a galaxy of hundreds of little cities and neighborhoods. I wouldn't recommend making the trek to Pegas to get laid (because you won't) , but if you are interested to explore the city, this is a good way to do it (plus a happy ending).
Of course, if you overstay the Metro curfew, you will have to get home by taxi and that won't be cheap. If you are lucky enough to have your own car, that would be the ideal situation. Just make sure you have a designated driver.
Everything you always wanted to know about Club Pegas. .
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=777656&viewfull=1#post777656
This post is 4 years old, but I imagine not much has changed, unless the place has closed. Probably best to call first, just to make sure they are still open. You'd be amazed at how many disconnected web pages there are to locations in Moscow.
As I recall, there was a huge night club, right next door, that was just getting started as I was leaving Pegas. Lots of chyorni types, mainly, but the women were looking mighty fine, all dressed to kill. Probably closed now.
It is a long way from tsentrom gorodye. There is no Metro stop in the immediate vicinity, so you will have to take a taxi from the Metro stop to the club. But it is not a bad area by any means. It's actually a pretty nice place. At night it was all lit up with restaurants, clubs, and stores still open. Moscow is not one city: it's a galaxy of hundreds of little cities and neighborhoods. I wouldn't recommend making the trek to Pegas to get laid (because you won't) , but if you are interested to explore the city, this is a good way to do it (plus a happy ending).
Of course, if you overstay the Metro curfew, you will have to get home by taxi and that won't be cheap. If you are lucky enough to have your own car, that would be the ideal situation. Just make sure you have a designated driver.Hi Strav,
Thanks for digging that one up. Seems a bit disappointing.
Not exactly what comes to mind when you read the web site.
Damn, could you just IMAGINE how successful an FKK would be in Moscow?
Stravinsky
07-30-12, 17:39
Damn, could you just IMAGINE how successful an FKK would be in Moscow?But, Moscow is an FKK club, isn't it? ;)
Crazy Travel
07-30-12, 18:49
Everything you always wanted to know about Club Pegas. .
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=777656&viewfull=1#post777656
This post is 4 years old, but I imagine not much has changed, unless the place has closed. Probably best to call first, just to make sure they are still open. You'd be amazed at how many disconnected web pages there are to locations in Moscow.Stravinsky, yes I read your report before writing here. It's seems to be the only report in the web (really well done) but I saw that it was 4 year ago, and. I read you took a car so I think you speak perfect Russian and I'm not. But reading your new report it seems now the bratislavskaya area is not so danger for a foreigner not speaking Russian? Is it? I still didn't decide where to spend me moscow night, hope not to waste the occasion.
While I was reading this it reminded me of my experience in moscow this past February. I posted a note here to get some advice from you guys and I am very grateful for the advice. Moscow was a total different city. Very expensive, but since it was my birthday, I decided I was going to spend more than usual. I visited the website its mentioned here, and I call a girl that advertised herself at 3000 rub and 1500 for anal. So, I call her and the girl who answer the phone spoke okay english. So, I thought it was her. This was around 8pm, so, I decided, since it was fucking cold, to had some drinks. Before I left the flat I was renting, I put in a bottle of water tequila reposado don julio, white, so, it looked like water. And drink while I went to the hard rock restaurant. By the time I go to the restaurant, I was pretty tipsy, half of the bottle gone. Had a burger a beer and keep drinking. By the time I was done I was drunk. (this was on my birthday) I was celebrating on my own. So, I call the number again, and I told the girl where I was. She told me I was not too far, I could take a taxi or walk. So, I talked to a taxi guy and had him my phone while the girl explained the address. The guy just said 1500 rub. And I talked to the girl and she said, don't take him, he is charging you too much. I really like her honesty, so she told me I was only like 10 t0 15 minutes walk. She told me how to get there when I gave her the name of the streets. So, I begging my journey. And of course, drunk and at 11 at night, I got lost. But I saw this pretty girl and I said "you speak english" and she said, a little yes. I told her I was lost on my way to meet my friends at their flat. I told her the address and she told me she was walking on that direction and I could walk with her. She spoke good english and with the cold weather, my alcohol level was going down. Know I know why Russian drink so much. She walked me to the front of the flat and she said have a good time, sine I told her it was my birthday. Little that she knew what I was doing. In any case, I call the girl again, I told her I am in front of her building, a small girl with good ass opens the door, wearing jeans and a jacket. Pretty. But not the girl from the add, so, I knew it was not her. So, I get to the flat. I asked for the girl I saw on the add, she was not as pretty as I thought. And her teeth were not attractive, to say the least, and it was a turn off. So, I asked the girls where they from, and they said from Ukrain, by the way, we are communicating using google translate, because they spoke no english. Thats why I am laughing at what you said. So, I said, I think ill go, so, by this time, the girl who opened the door for me, the small ukrainian girl was wearing a white see thought dress with a killing g-string. So, at this point I said, fuck it, I am here, and half drunk now, and I need to release some energy. So, I told the small girl I want her as she was opening the room of the flat. She asked me to take a shower, which I took a hot shower, then she took a shower. Then she came back into the room and gave her 3000 rubs. When she was naked she looked amazing. I am guessing she was 22. I am 28 and most people think I am 21 or younger, so, I was enjoying the view. She begun giving me kisses in the body, then I begin kissing her breast, her neck, her ears, touching her hair, kissing her face slowly (I wanted to feel I was making love, trying to get my mind set for that, although I knew I paid her, but I like creating that image in my head) so, I kissed her neck rubbed my lips slowly against her, without kissing her, and she begun kissing me slowly, and as I kissed her and bite her lips she kissed harder. We did this for about 10 to 15 minutes, I could tell she enjoyed me kissing her because I would touch her pussy with my middle finger slowly and she was getting wet. It was a great feeling. Then she said, I want. And I said okay. And sucked my dick for 2 to 3 minutes while I touch her ass and pussy. Then I placed her in the bed and begging to kiss her from the top until I go to her sweet pussy, it was nice and wet, I I kissed her pussy lips and she enjoyed it. We begging with some missionary, slowly, while kissing very passionate, she kept saying "good lips" and I said you too. She was moaning and moving at the same pace as me, and her moaning got stronger and we fuck and kissed very passionate, while touched her body. And then she looked at me with some big eyes and bite my lip and I could tell she come. And then she wanted hard, because she said "hard" (how do I know she come, well, her pussy was wet, very wet, and my dick can feel her pussy squeezing and relaxing, I am sure you guys get the idea. I had this experience only from my exgirlfriends, never from a payed girl.
Any any case, so, we changed to doggie, I fucking her hard while she was looking at me and sucking my finger. Then I kissed her while doing doggie, not easy, but possible. Then she got on top of me, and kissed me while we fuck and again the eyes and now, my balls were super wet. I changed position and fucked her both of us laying on the bed, sideways, while her right leg in the air and I was kissing her neck and fucking her. She was enjoying everything. After a while, I lost track of time and I think she lost track of time too, because I felt I was fucking for a long time. She said,"water" I said sure. She went out side the room and grab some water and said "you can fuck all night" but with a cute smile. I said yes. But she said "15 minutes more" with a kind of sad face. I said okay, so we started missionary again and kissing passionate. I wanted to try to finish when she finishes, so, I could see she was getting excited and getting more intense, so, I fucked her harder and kissed her and bite her lips and neck and sure the big eyes again, the facial expression, so, I concentrated and as she finished I come too. And I bite her lip hard and I could tell she liked it. I wanted to do that because I used to finish the same way with my ex girlfriend.
The best experience I had in moscow and the best experience with a working girl. So, now I am thinking of going to moscow in November, so, I see if I can contact the girl again, if she stills in moscow. She was worth every rub. I didn't get a change to fuck a working Russian, but a ukrainian to add to my list. By the way, I did sleep with a Russian, but not working girl, a girl from muumuu restaurant, because a friend of mine told me the best places to pick up girls are in local restaurants and just be the american that is lost and needs help. And it works, I will tell those stories in a different time, because they work.
I just wanted to add my five cents and my story.
Good question. And no, it's not a scam at all. However, for $100 a hour this girls probably won't speak any more English than "hello, how are you"?
And with these (seemingly) bargain girls, look at the list of things they are willing to do (CIM, Oral w / o, Anal, etc) the repertoire is often limited. And don't for get the age. Girls who are 18. 23 command a nice price. Once they get over 25, you can see the prices erode quickly unless they have something special to offer. For example, in addition to the usual Africans (no offense to the brothers and sisters of course) who show up on the first page, there are a handful who make it to the top of the front page. This is no accident. These girls PAY to get their profile near the top. And while their prices are significantly higher and they are often (but not always) over 24 years old, these girls offer the full range and speak good (if not excellent English). And I can tell your from personal experience that these girls are VERY good performers. Excellent GFE and technique too. So you are paying for a pro who could EASILY be working in a top agency but prefers the independence that.
www.rusdosug.com
Offers.
But I digress. The $100 per hours girls are hit or miss. If I am to the point where I need "professional help" I usually hit a salon, pay $150 and choose what suits my fancy that night. I have heard from other guys that these $100 girls can also be very good if they are new to Moscow (from the provinces or other CIS countries). But once they get established, the price goes up.
Hope this helps,
Jake
But, Moscow is an FKK club, isn't it? ;)Ha, ha, ha. Fair enough!
Stravinsky
07-31-12, 18:44
I still didn't decide where to spend me moscow night, hope not to waste the occasion.CT,
I rode the Metro to Bratislavskaya first, and then grabbed a car to go find the club. Had to take a car home because the Metro had shut down for the night.
I did not feel threatened at any time in the area around Bratislavskaya. It's a perfectly safe neighborhood, as safe as central Moscow. But, if you don't speak or read Russian, you will have difficulty getting around and finding things.
If you don't speak or read Russian and you will only be in Moscow for one night, it's best to stay in the center of town. Go to some big club like Aurora. Plenty of girls there to choose from, walking around in various states of déshabiller. It's a little like an FKK: grab a girl and take her to the room. Only difference is, it's gonna cost you a lot more the 60/70 Euro a pop. But it will be the most efficient use of your time, if not your money.
Stravinsky
07-31-12, 18:46
Calina,
Thanks for the great report! Maybe you could hit the Enter key every once in a while? It makes you report a lot easier to read.
But, Moscow is an FKK club, isn't it? ;)If only Moscow was an FKK club. The mafia would never allow such good prices and service. Thet actually lose money because of their greed. Moscow's hay days! Have long since past. There are far better destinations.
Sebastiane
08-01-12, 19:47
Hi. I'm a regular monger. See my posts in the FKK forums-
I would love to visit both St. Pb and Moscow. Obviously, apart from the cultural aspects.
Of those cities eg Kremlin and Hermitage, Bolshoi, Mariinsky etc. Etc, as a monger I'd be visiting.
Primarily to sample Russian females. Now, I'm not a complete stranger to them having sessioned with some.
Russians in FKKs but I'd love to visit some Russian escorts in Russia itself as well as experiencing its.
Famous clubs to pick up 'real' Russian beauties.
I'm a middle-class professional and make enough money to indulge in this hobby of mine but my concern.
Is that due to my Indian origins, even though I think, act and sound English and am British by birth, would I.
Be welcome into the posher escort clubs / brothels / escorts and nightclubs as you hear contrasting stories online.
And I've not seen this issue addressed on ISG after searching.
In short will my trip to Russia be worth it in terms of getting quality puss?
&1071; &1082; &1072; &1080; &1092; &1091; &1102; &1100; , je prends mon pied!
For the third year, I spend one month in Moscow learning Russian.
I like MILFs and Moscow is just the paradise (I am not interested in 19 yo blondikas).
Speaking a little Russian is necessary, but then there are a lot of women between 25 and 50 (they claim less) that are looking to have sex with a decent guy. They do like sex and they do it first for their own pleasure, and that is just what I like. Most of them already have one or two children, a normal job and no husband / boy friend.
Now I meet women that I know and I also search for new ones. So far this year, I met 6 new ones. 3 of them were really good and, if I can, I will see them next year and 2 of them were not so good (both had had a foreign boy friend, have been visiting them abroad. And were looking for a new one).
On top of that, I met swingers, and unlike some of the clubs I have been in France, here the men do not need to drag the women to it!
I made the Russian women laugh very loud when I explained to them that the French women say "I can make love only when I am really in love!" The answer of the Russian women was "Ah they want a lot of money"
I went to Night Flight, pretty girls, but not that much! I was quoted 500 euros, I walked away!
Living in Moscow is very expensive, but for me it is really worth it! Rio and Buenos Aires are nice in January and February as the weather is nice and life is not so expensive, but as far as sex is concern, Moscow is way better (IMHO).
Living in Moscow is very expensive, but for me it is really worth it! Rio and Buenos Aires are nice in January and February as the weather is nice and life is not so expensive, but as far as sex is concern, Moscow is way better (IMHO).Cherchur,
Thanks for sharing your experiences with us. You are an inspiration for me! I have been living in Moscow full time for more than one year now and I am getting lazy. Still fucking the same 3 or 4 women and not looking for new ones. Shame on me! I am getting complacent and sometimes need to be reminded that I am living in one of the greatest cities in the world for sex. I have a DUTY to this board to boldly go out an seek new ones.
I am sure that many guys reading this are asking themselves,"why doesn't this asshole share his information on where to meet Russian chicks for sex?" The answer is so simple."everywhere". It would take me all day to list the places in Moscow to meet women who want to fuck. As Dr. Skank once said,"you can meet these girls in the clubs and bars, but you can meet them just as easily in cafes, in the metro, on the street, at the ice cream stand. Just start talking to them". If you don't speak Russian, just start in English, French or Spanish. If they don't understand you, they will walk away or let you know pretty quickly. But you would be surprised at how many women under 40 speak English these days in Moscow. And you don't need to be a pick up artist. Just relax, speak slowly and simply. Use vocabulary that you would use as if speaking to a young child because if they are only learning English then that's what they know.
And what do you talk about? Start with the weather. If the weather is great, then talk about how great the weather is. If the weather is shit, then talk about how terrible it is and talk about how nice it would be to go somewhere sunny and warm. And then ask them why their boyfriend / husband does not take them somewhere warm and sunny? This is a critical question because in the next response you will learn what the status of her relationship is and whether she is available for sex so listen carefully.
OK, now I am preaching. Time to shut up.
Thanks again, Chercher for the inspiration. It's another beautiful sunny afternoon in Moscow. Going to out this evening and find a sunny place to drink beer and find some chicks! And if I can't find a new one I can always call one of the regulars to come over for some "tea".
Happy trails everyone,
Jake
Gentleman Travel
08-02-12, 15:38
I am sure that many guys reading this are asking themselves,"why doesn't this asshole share his information on where to meet Russian chicks for sex?" The answer is so simple."everywhere". It would take me all day to list the places in Moscow to meet women who want to fuck. As Dr. Skank once said,"you can meet these girls in the clubs and bars, but you can meet them just as easily in cafes, in the metro, on the street, at the ice cream stand. Just start talking to them".Thanks for the tips, Jake. Like Chercheur, I am interested in meeting MILFs (25-35) not just because I stand a better chance of scoring and they are freebies, but because they might want to fuck me as much as I want to fuck them. Which is a great aphrodite! But one challenge is where to connect with them, other than dating sites (which I have covered). Probably 30-year olds with young children don't go out to bars and clubs often. So Skank's and your advice "everywhere" has some merit. I suppose I should try sushi bars and coffee shops, which are likely to be target-rich environments. But are there places older women go to prowl and be preyed upon?
I am interested in meeting MILFs (25-35) not just because I stand a better chance of scoring and they are freebies, but because they might want to fuck me as much as I want to fuck them. Which is a great aphrodite! But one challenge is where to connect with them, other than dating sites (which I have covered). Probably 30-year olds with young children don't go out to bars and clubs often. So Skank's and your advice "everywhere" has some merit. I suppose I should try sushi bars and coffee shops, which are likely to be target-rich environments.Public libraries, especially Children's Libraries. You want a target rich environment, you got one here.
The Tanuki
08-02-12, 20:50
Thanks for the tips, Jake. Like Chercheur, I am interested in meeting MILFs (25-35) not just because I stand a better chance of scoring and they are freebies, but because they might want to fuck me as much as I want to fuck them. Which is a great aphrodite! But are there places older women go to prowl and be preyed upon?You might be overlooking an obvious choice in finding women by themselves in any country: the food markets. First off, everybody eats. Though some folks don't cook much, they will be in the markets from time to time to get at least coffee and bread. It's perfect because they are not likely to bring the little kids with them, and you have a lot of potential ice-breakers there as a non-Russian."Can you tell me a good brand of coffee?" or "I need some chocolate for my co-workers back home; what's the best?" Things like that. Once you've figured out she speaks your language you can start hitting her up for the next phase. Considering how open many Russian women are to foreign men, I'd think this should work out well, though you may need some time to find a hottie in those shops. One idea anyhow.
The Tanuki
You might be overlooking an obvious choice in finding women by themselves in any country: the food markets. First off, everybody eats. Though some folks don't cook much, they will be in the markets from time to time to get at least coffee and bread. It's perfect because they are not likely to bring the little kids with them, and you have a lot of potential ice-breakers there as a non-Russian."Can you tell me a good brand of coffee?" or "I need some chocolate for my co-workers back home; what's the best?" Things like that. Once you've figured out she speaks your language you can start hitting her up for the next phase. Considering how open many Russian women are to foreign men, I'd think this should work out well, though you may need some time to find a hottie in those shops. One idea anyhow.
The TanukiTT,
You nailed it in one. About 2 years ago, a colleague on mine (from Canada no less) was in Moscow on his first business trip to Moscow. Spoke absolutely NO Russian whatsoever and was staying in a services apartment that I had arranged for him near Pushkinskaya. One afternoon, he wandered over to Yeliseevsky (Historic Grocery Store on Tverskaya) looking for some gifts to take home for his daughter. He was standing in front of the chocolate rack trying to decide which Russian chocolates would be the best choice. I kid you not, but a 31 year old very hot looking woman came over to him, while he was holding a box of chocolates trying to read the label, and offered to help him select a box. She spoke reasonable English and has picked him out as a foreigner offering to help. 15 minutes later he had her phone number and had arranged to take her to dinner the following night after which he took her back to the apartment and screwed her brains out!
Hello guys.
I am not new to this forum but I post very little, but I read a lot from here and I really enjoy it, and honestly I tell you that I admire you a lot for the hunting for woman abroad Hobby, that you practice ). Now I am planning a trip to Moscow and I would like to call some working girls to come to my apartment, because am not going to have time to go around. So I would like to find some contacts upfront (I done this In Kiev all ready and I really liked) , so could tell me of any site with freelancers working girls in Moscow with real photos and contacts.
Thanks lot
Amunra
Considering how open many Russian women are to foreign menCouldn't agree more. It's literally astounding. Nonetheless they are challenging. You have to tick all the boxes.
The Tanuki
08-05-12, 19:31
Couldn't agree more. It's literally astounding. Nonetheless they are challenging. You have to tick all the boxes.That's true. However, whereas a lot of American women make you jump through hoops to figure out what boxes to tick, the Dyev's are much more straightforward. 1: man is in control. 2: man wears nice shoes. 3: man buys woman whatever she wants for dinner / drinks. 4: woman fucks the hell of out man. I love this!
The Tanuki
I like MILFs and Moscow is just the paradise (I am not interested in 19 yo blondikas).
On top of that, I met swingers, and unlike some of the clubs I have been in France, here the men do not need to drag the women to it!Hi Chercheur,
Enjoyed your report, philosophy...and username!
Did you meet those swingers in dedicated 'lifestyle' clubs in town, and, if so, what are they called and where are they?
VG
Hi Chercheur,
Did you meet those swingers in dedicated 'lifestyle' clubs in town, and, if so, what are they called and where are they?
VGHi Gergiev.
It was private swingers parties in a private apartment. I was introduced to them by a girl I met through mamba.
I invited two girls, I made a threesome with, to spend a week in Paris in October; I told them they will have to pay for their air tickets, and I will pay their accommodation in a hotel near my apartment. Their concern was "Is this hotel boy-friend friendly?". Boy! I love the Russian women!
I wish I could spend more time in Moscow.
On MSNBC.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48523446/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/
On MSNBC.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48523446/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/Thanks for the heads up Cruiser.
This should help raise the "curiosity factor" this Friday night!
Hi Gergiev.
It was private swingers parties in a private apartment. I was introduced to them by a girl I met through mamba.
I invited two girls, I made a threesome with, to spend a week in Paris in October; I told them they will have to pay for their air tickets, and I will pay their accommodation in a hotel near my apartment. Their concern was "Is this hotel boy-friend friendly?". Boy! I love the Russian women!
I wish I could spend more time in Moscow.Well done, Chercheur.
Sounds like you made some good contacts there!
Keep up the good work...
Ronaldinjo
08-13-12, 19:29
Arriwing in a week to moscow, could you please adwise me cheep hotels or hostels (even better) in the centre of the city? Are hostels safe?
With respect,
Ronaldinjo
Helena Moscow
08-14-12, 22:36
Arriwing in a week to moscow, could you please adwise me cheep hotels or hostels (even better) in the centre of the city? Are hostels safe?
With respect,
RonaldinjoHi, Ronaldinjo.
Try this link http://www.hostelworld.com/search?search_keywords=Moscow%2C+Russia&country=Russia&city=Moscow. Godzillaz hostel is very popular, but I think the others are not worse. They are safe, don't worry.
Gentleman Travel
08-15-12, 13:51
Arriwing in a week to moscow, could you please adwise me cheep hotels or hostels (even better) in the centre of the city? Are hostels safe?
With respect,
RonaldinjoBut if you are staying in a hostel, how can you monger?
You cannot invite a lady back to your hostel to frolic in the top bunk as your roommates shave and wash their socks. Not very romantic.
Moscow is a bad city to visit if you are travelling on the cheap, everything is expensive.
Hi. I'm a regular monger. See my posts in the FKK forums-
I would love to visit both St. Pb and Moscow. Obviously, apart from the cultural aspects.
Of those cities eg Kremlin and Hermitage, Bolshoi, Mariinsky etc. Etc, as a monger I'd be visiting.
Primarily to sample Russian females. Now, I'm not a complete stranger to them having sessioned with some.
Russians in FKKs but I'd love to visit some Russian escorts in Russia itself as well as experiencing its.
Famous clubs to pick up 'real' Russian beauties.
I'm a middle-class professional and make enough money to indulge in this hobby of mine but my concern.
Is that due to my Indian origins, even though I think, act and sound English and am British by birth, would I.
Be welcome into the posher escort clubs / brothels / escorts and nightclubs as you hear contrasting stories online.
And I've not seen this issue addressed on ISG after searching.
In short will my trip to Russia be worth it in terms of getting quality puss?Hi Sybarite,
I was only once in Moscow and it was with an Indian colleague of mine. We went to a few bars over the 3 nights we were there and, because I speak a little bit of Russian, it was me doing most of the talking. What I can tell you is that whilst it was not difficult at all for me to get a WG, most of them refused to go back with my Indian mate. He is the CEO of a pretty big company and cash was not a problem. They simple did not seem to like the colour of his skin.
As I said, this is just a quick note on my onetime experience. It may not be representative but IMO seems to suggest you may face some problems. One the good new side, when we finally got him a lady, she was actually the top pick of our time in Moscow and he had a hell of a time fucking her.
The old trick of acting like a confident gentleman and making them laugh seems to work well with Russians so good luck.
I am visiting moscow soon and want to know if I can find swinger parties there,
I don't speak Russian.
Can you help me and send me email to explain.
Hi Gergiev.
It was private swingers parties in a private apartment. I was introduced to them by a girl I met through mamba.
I invited two girls, I made a threesome with, to spend a week in Paris in October; I told them they will have to pay for their air tickets, and I will pay their accommodation in a hotel near my apartment. Their concern was "Is this hotel boy-friend friendly?". Boy! I love the Russian women!
I wish I could spend more time in Moscow.
Ronaldinjo
08-17-12, 12:21
At 911 Aurora, Loft or Penhous is there possibility to pick up the girls to the hotel or the action is already in the club?
1 H sex 12. 000 Rub with kissing and bbj and DATY or you should pay extra?
Thank you boys
Stravinsky
08-18-12, 19:45
At 911 Aurora, Loft or Penhous is there possibility to pick up the girls to the hotel or the action is already in the club?The answer is, both.
At 911, everyone is fair game; dancers, waitresses and hostesses. The higher up the management scale you go, the more it will cost you.
For a dancer, 12,000 руб. for an hour is about right. For one of the hostesses, it could be 20K руб. or more. That should include everything, including the room. If they ask more money for the room, then you might want to think twice about that - IMHO.
This assumes that you use one of the rooms at the club.
I think just about every strip club in Moscow offers an увольнение (oo-vohl-NYEN-i-ye). That's Russian for dismissal. This is how it works: the club will agree to "dismiss" a girl for an hour or 2, or maybe even the rest of the night, in exchange for a payment up front, so that you can take her back to your hotel (or apartment). At the average strip club it's about 10,000 руб. for an hour or 2, but at a place like 911 it could be 20K or more. And that's just what you pay to the club. You still have to negotiate with the girl separately for her time.
So, if you're talking about taking one of the hottest babes in 911 back to your hotel for the rest of the night, you're looking at 40K or 50K руб., for both the club and the girl. (about 1,200 to 1,500 USD).
Hopefully you can just write it off as "client entertainment".
The other possibility is to arrange to meet one of the girls in the club, outside of the club, at some other time. It's not a sure thing, but it's significantly less expensive.
удачи вам
For a dancer, 12,000 руб. for an hour is about right. For one of the hostesses, it could be 20K руб. or more.Had a long-term GF who was hostess at 911. Moldovian (we first met in Chisinau) , from Bulgarian ethnicity. Brunette, a beautiful classic face, with no imperfection, my comrade-in-arms Zippy could confirm. Absolutely NO materialistic expectations. Nada. Nitshevo. Just to say that every princess needs a prince, no matter what she does for a living.
Ronaldinjo
08-18-12, 22:10
The answer is, both.
At 911, everyone is fair game; dancers, waitresses and hostesses. The higher up the management scale you go, the more it will cost you.
For a dancer. 12, 000 &1088; &1091; &1073; . For an hour is about right. For one of the hostesses, it could be 20K &1088; &1091; &1073; . Or more. That should include everything, including the room. If they ask more money for the room, then you might want to think twice about that. IMHO.
This assumes that you use one of the rooms at the club.
I think just about every strip club in Moscow offers an &1091; &1074; &1086; &1083; &1100; &1085; &1077; &1085; &1080; &1077; (oo-vohl-NYEN-I-ye). That's Russian for dismissal. This is how it works: the club will agree to "dismiss" a girl for an hour or 2, or maybe even the rest of the night, in exchange for a payment up front, so that you can take her back to your hotel (or apartment). At the average strip club it's about 10, 000 &1088; &1091; &1073; . For an hour or 2, but at a place like 911 it could be 20K or more. And that's just what you pay to the club. You still have to negotiate with the girl separately for her time.
So, if you're talking about taking one of the hottest babes in 911 back to your hotel for the rest of the night, you're looking at 40K or 50K &1088; &1091; &1073; , for both the club and the girl. (about 1, 200 to 1, 500 USD).
Hopefully you can just write it off as "client entertainment".
The other possibility is to arrange to meet one of the girls in the club, outside of the club, at some other time. It's not a sure thing, but it's significantly less expensive.
&1091; &1076; &1072; &1095; &1080; &1074; &1072; &1084; Thank you Strav.
I'm in moscow next week for 2 days. If I'm planning to bang aurora hottie in the spot (not taking her to the hotel) for an hour, how much it is going to cost me? I understood its 8000 for the stripper and 4000 for the room (about 400$) , I'm I right? And with the entrance fee, drinks it is going to be about 600-700$ damage?
Could you tell me if kissing and DATY is alowded?
Thanks in advance, Ronaldinjo
Stravinsky
08-19-12, 19:20
Just to say that every princess needs a prince, no matter what she does for a living.Prosal,
That's wonderful. But the rest of us commoners still need to pay. :)
Stravinsky
08-19-12, 19:23
Ronald,
You are over-thinking this too much, it's not rocket science.
If you are only in Moscow for a couple of days, you won't have much chance to meet anyone, so a place like 911 is your best bet. Take plenty of money with you, and go have a good time.
If there are any specific services you need, then just ask the girl up front and she can tell you, one way or the other.
That's it.
Generally speaking, the best part is what you didn't Plan for.
. Just to say that every princess needs a princeSometimes the princess settles for a frog.
Prosal,
That's wonderful. But the rest of us commoners still need to pay. .Well, I remember that Pyzdiets talked about some of his success stories (freebies) with strippers in Moscow. It's not really surprising, if you show some empathy, self-restraint and personal attention. Those girls deal night after night with boorish sex-weaned guys, and are usually happy to find someone who don't treat them like pieces of meat.
At 911 Aurora, Loft or Penhous is there possibility to pick up the girls to the hotel or the action is already in the club?
1 H sex 12. 000 Rub with kissing and bbj and DATY or you should pay extra?
Thank you boysHi Ronaldinjo,
Sorry for the slow reply. It was a wild weekend. Saturday night was Beach Party Night at "The Hungry Duck". They brought in about 1, 000 cubic meters of sand and dumped it on the floor. Then they put in a half dozen kiddie pools and gave everyone squirt guns. I know it all sounds a bit juvenile, but by 3:00 AM every girl had a wet t-shirt. Good clean fun with plenty of hook-ups. The Duck is getting to have a reputation of being a great weekend "hook up" bar on weekends.
But I digress. The answer to you questions is, yes 12, 000 rubles sounds about right of an hour onsite. Yes, that includes BBBJ and most girls will let you DATY but it's best to ask during the interview to avoid disappointment. Aurora has only 2 rooms on site whereas LOFT and Penthouse have something like 16 rooms EACH for such activities. All I am saying is that if you hit Aurora on a busy night, you might have to wait a while to get a room.
Have fun.
Jake
Well, I remember that Pyzdiets talked about some of his success stories (freebies) with strippers in Moscow. It's not really surprising, if you show some empathy, self-restraint and personal attention. Those girls deal night after night with boorish sex-weaned guys, and are usually happy to find someone who don't treat them like pieces of meat.Actually, I think that was me. And I think Dr. Skank dated a stripper for a while but I may be wrong. Pizdyets DID NOT LIKE strip clubs AT ALL and pissed and moaned every time we went to one. In fact he was quite down on strippers all the way around.
But yes, you are correct. It's surprising how much GFE you can get from a dancer by treating them nicely.
Ronaldinjo
08-20-12, 16:19
Hi Ronaldinjo,
Sorry for the slow reply. It was a wild weekend. Saturday night was Beach Party Night at "The Hungry Duck". They brought in about 1, 000 cubic meters of sand and dumped it on the floor. Then they put in a half dozen kiddie pools and gave everyone squirt guns. I know it all sounds a bit juvenile, but by 3:00 AM every girl had a wet t-shirt. Good clean fun with plenty of hook-ups. The Duck is getting to have a reputation of being a great weekend "hook up" bar on weekends.
But I digress. The answer to you questions is, yes 12, 000 rubles sounds about right of an hour onsite. Yes, that includes BBBJ and most girls will let you DATY but it's best to ask during the interview to avoid disappointment. Aurora has only 2 rooms on site whereas LOFT and Penthouse have something like 16 rooms EACH for such activities. All I am saying is that if you hit Aurora on a busy night, you might have to wait a while to get a room.
Have fun.
JakeThank you very much Jake. Glad to see you back, hope you will have a lot of such weekends in the future. Did you hear about strip club "egoist", have you been there? I read that it could be the strip club with hottest girls aroun, is it true? It more expensive? What do you think about it?
With respect,
Ronaldinjo
The Tanuki
08-20-12, 16:30
Hi Ronaldinjo,
Sorry for the slow reply. It was a wild weekend. Saturday night was Beach Party Night at "The Hungry Duck". They brought in about 1, 000 cubic meters of sand and dumped it on the floor. Then they put in a half dozen kiddie pools and gave everyone squirt guns. I know it all sounds a bit juvenile, but by 3:00 AM every girl had a wet t-shirt. Good clean fun with plenty of hook-ups. The Duck is getting to have a reputation of being a great weekend "hook up" bar on weekends.
But I digress.Stay with the digression, Jake! It was just getting interesting!
The Tanuki
Hello everyone!
Sorry to bother you with a question that probably comes often here. But could not find the answer so far.
I have been to Moscow 10 years ago, found a lot of interesting informations on this site. Above all the idea of renting an appartment for a week instead of going to the hotel.
I found here a linke to a site called Debra which offered a lot of appartments for a reasonable price.
Now This site doesn't exist anymore, could you please advise me a site which is offering flats for rent in Moscow for a short period?
Spasibo bolshoe in advance!
Thank you very much Jake. Glad to see you back, hope you will have a lot of such weekends in the future. Did you hear about strip club "egoist", have you been there? I read that it could be the strip club with hottest girls aroun, is it true? It more expensive? What do you think about it?
With respect,
RonaldinjoI have only been to Egoist once and that was probably 2 years ago.
It's located in the Peking Hotel building (as are Manhattan Grill and Radio City Grill).
From what I can remember the girls were EXTREMELY HOT.
Unfortunately, I can't remember much about prices. My guess that they are in the same range as LOFT, Aurora, etc.
Stay with the digression, Jake! It was just getting interesting! .
The TanukiDid I mention that we went to Petrovich BEFORE The Duck? It was full of the usual 28-32 year old girls looking for love on a Saturday night. We got there about midnight and truth be told, we should have gotten there a little earlier to get a spot at the bar. Oh well, that's life. The dance floor was jammed and there were a lot of Russian guys who were VERY drunk so we decided to move over to the Duck and avoid getting clobbered. We made a good choice as it seems the local boys can sometimes take exception to foreign dudes hitting on their women from time to time.
Gentleman Travel
08-21-12, 14:38
Did I mention that we went to Petrovich BEFORE The Duck? It was full of the usual 28-32 year old girls looking for love on a Saturday night.I like the demographic of that bar. Petrovich. Does anyone know of an equivalent in Kiev?
It seems to me that most of the hot bars / clubs are filled with a younger crowd, which is not exactly my target market.
The older girls mostly seem to be pros, which can be okay, but by then they have a lot of miles on them.
30+ MILFs looking to brighten up a Saturday night is exactly what I am looking for! (Minus the drunken gopniks, of course!)
I like the demographic of that bar. Petrovich. Does anyone know of an equivalent in Kiev?Petrovitch does have a branch in Kiev. Nonetheless, I don't know if it also turns to club at night.
http://www.petrovichclub.kiev.ua/
Admitedly, all the talks about nightlife in the Kiev thread always turn around the same three or four venues. As if Kiev wasn't a city of 2,7 millions people, with hundreds of bars and clubs. (rolleyes)
(Minus the drunken gopniks, of course!)
Gopniki don't have access to Petrovitch, which is a private club, and where you need the patronage of two members to get a card (or to be accompanied by a member to get in). The drunk guys Jake talked about were rather inebriated and boorish wealthy russian men in their 30s or 40s. Russians are usually nice people, but they can go from jovial to berserk in a heartbeat. Especially when they're drunk.
Ronaldinjo
08-21-12, 16:23
[QUOTE=Jake993; 1317844]I have only been to Egoist once and that was probably 2 years ago.
It's located in the Peking Hotel building (as are Manhattan Grill and Radio City Grill).
From what I can remember the girls were EXTREMELY HOT.
Unfortunately, I can't remember much about prices. My guess that they are in the same range as LOFT, Aurora, etc.
Sorry for asking too many questions Jack, but you are my man in moscow and I really apreciate your help. What about borthel girls (those that you wrote down in your previous posts) line from Fantasys and etc, are the pics real? What are the prices and if it is possible to invite a girls to the hotel from there?
With respect,
Ronaldinjo
No, there isn't.
Oblaka.
Seems a cool place. Maybe you've been there, Jake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=FLaGbumErAwWSRAw77LSmJLQ&v=tJX4QceXgiU&feature=player_detailpage#t=2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUokbwmlmk&feature=player_detailpage#t=2s
[QUOTE=Jake993; 1317844]Sorry for asking too many questions Jack, but you are my man in moscow and I really apreciate your help. What about borthel girls (those that you wrote down in your previous posts) line from Fantasys and etc, are the pics real? What are the prices and if it is possible to invite a girls to the hotel from there?
With respect,
RonaldinjoIn my experience, the salon girls look "pretty close" to their photos on the web sites. Of course, there is always a little photoshop to fix skin blemishes, etc. But for the most part, what you see is what you get. While it's POSSIBLE to get a salon girls to leave the location, it's not normal. They do well on location and RARELY risk pissing off management by making a deal with you to visit you in your hotel. When it DOES happen, it's usually with a regular client so don't be surprised if you get a big "Nyet" is you ask them to leave the location.
No, there isn't.
Oblaka.
Seems a cool place. Maybe you've been there, Jake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=FLaGbumErAwWSRAw77LSmJLQ&v=tJX4QceXgiU&feature=player_detailpage#t=2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUokbwmlmk&feature=player_detailpage#t=2sHi are you doing buddy Prosal? Actual girls in club in Moscow are much hotter than in the youtube video and younger too, these are a scratch of the surface. Speaking of Oblaka I've never seen such a lineup of exotic cars outside of a club on an odd weeknight
Ronaldinjo
08-24-12, 14:02
[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo; 1317991]In my experience, the salon girls look "pretty close" to their photos on the web sites. Of course, there is always a little photoshop to fix skin blemishes, etc. But for the most part, what you see is what you get. While it's POSSIBLE to get a salon girls to leave the location, it's not normal. They do well on location and RARELY risk pissing off management by making a deal with you to visit you in your hotel. When it DOES happen, it's usually with a regular client so don't be surprised if you get a big "Nyet" is you ask them to leave the location.Thank you Jake. Some last questions before my trip (which I will report here). In Aurora, Pnt, Loft, etc, if you liked some dancer or hostess, and want to bang her, you inform about it to the manager and he invites them to your table or approaching them individually? What are the best clubs (discoes) in moscow? Just for dance and good musics?
With respect,
Ronaldinjo
[QUOTE=Prosal;1318937]Seems a cool place. Maybe you've been there, Jake? /QUOTE]
I have. And I must say that I have never felt so ugly and so poor in all my LIFE! Well, maybe that time we got faced at SoHo Rooms made me feel worse. Seriously, this place is high end. To get in on a Friday night, you pretty much need a password. If you can get on the email list, they send out a new password on the day of the event. Without a password you had better be dressed to kill and be prepared to slip the "feis control" boys about $50 to get in. I got in because the my realtor is on the list and slips me the password once in a while. (BTW. She's a 40 year old Russian "cougar" who is constantly trolling for hot young guys. Hilarious)
The place is CRAWLING is hot chicks. The videos are completely accurate although it's strange that on Friday night and Saturday night the girls seemed a little older. Keep in mind that this is a summer terrace and is open only from mid June until early August so there are "beautiful people" there EVERY night. But make no mistake, this is a place to see and be seen. I would not call it a pick up place unless you are prepared to drop a LOT of coin. 50% of the girls are trolling for rich boyfriends. On weekend, there are "mini-garchs" (oligarch want to be's) who are throwing money around like it was water. Honestly, places like this are waaay out of my league and I don't enjoy them that much. But it's a fun, fun, fun atmosphere. The energy is high and the mood is party, party party. It's worth experiencing at least once in your life. Even if the beers are $15 and mojitos are $30. Unfortunately, the weather has turned cool so there won't be many more nights left at Oblaka.
Even if the beers are $15 and mojitos are $30.Ouch. Spending 30$ for a mojito would make me feel more fool than cool!
Ronaldinjo
08-25-12, 16:17
Thank you Jake. Some last questions before my trip (which I will report here). In Aurora, Pnt, Loft, etc, if you liked some dancer or hostess, and want to bang her, you inform about it to the manager and he invites them to your table or approaching them individually? What about rusdosug site, are the pics real (thare are realy attractive chicks fo 100$/h only, did you try them, what do you say aboyt it? Are they relible? I'm hitting to moscow on Monday. Waiting for your answers.
With respect,
Ronaldinjo
Member #2096
08-26-12, 00:27
Well I travel a lot over the world and Moscow is the most expensive place for sex. The girls in Hot Dogs ask for 500 US$ but never go below 10. 000 Rub. In night flight nobody goes below 15000 Rub. Forget the girls on Rosdosug. I tried to call at least 20 but even if they say they speak English they never speak English and hangup the phone directly. If you want good sex with a Russian girl, take the first plane to Germany where you can have them for less than 50 euro. A lot of black girls advertise on Rusdosug but for me I do not like black girls (not racist but just do not feel attracted to them).
If you have time enough it is not to difficult to find a girlfriend here and that's what I usually do. Although a lot of gals only interested in rich guys there is still plenty of possibibilities to meet a nice gf (try Russian Cupid or Mambe).
But here everything goes about money. The so called free gf may cost you a lot in the end to on gifts, horendous prices for restaurants and bars. In the end I just got tired of the whole scene and just find on regular gf.
If you are 45 and look average and do not speak Russian your chance of meeting a nice girl in the bar who is a non pro is also slim unless you are very rich and willing to spent a lot of money on the girls. The change of meeting a girl in a bar in Europe or Amerika is maybe even better than in Russia.
Thank you Jake. Some last questions before my trip (which I will report here). In Aurora, Pnt, Loft, etc, if you liked some dancer or hostess, and want to bang her, you inform about it to the manager and he invites them to your table or approaching them individually? What about rusdosug site, are the pics real (thare are realy attractive chicks fo 100$/h only, did you try them, what do you say aboyt it? Are they relible? I'm hitting to moscow on Monday. Waiting for your answers.
With respect,
RonaldinjoHi Ronaldinjo, you can tell the girl directly if you want to take her in one of the rooms, invite her to over to a bar or your table before you make the choice. Not sure about Loft or Aurora but at penthouse if you lounge by the bar the girls will approach you constantly. 100 roubles for a by-bar dance is customary. 1 hour with a girl will run you 12000 roubles, girl and the room included. The price tag is high and it's a buyer's market so you call the shots.
Hello everyone!
Sorry to bother you with a question that probably comes often here. But could not find the answer so far.
I have been to Moscow 10 years ago, found a lot of interesting informations on this site. Above all the idea of renting an appartment for a week instead of going to the hotel.
I found here a linke to a site called Debra which offered a lot of appartments for a reasonable price.
Now This site doesn't exist anymore, could you please advise me a site which is offering flats for rent in Moscow for a short period?
Spasibo bolshoe in advance!Try Evans.
Is a real estate agency, more into selling than renting.
However whatever they don't sell, they rent short term.
They have several aparments centrally located.
Ask for Victorya Martynova, she speaks great English and can help you with availability.
Try Evans.
Is a real estate agency, more into selling than renting.
However whatever they don't sell, they rent short term.
They have several aparments centrally located.
Ask for Victorya Martynova, she speaks great English and can help you with availability.Also there's.
http://moscow-star.com/.
They have been a round a while. Apartments are getting a little tired I hear but are in EXCELLENT locations. I used to stay there a LOT before getting my own apartment.
Hello everyone!
Sorry to bother you with a question that probably comes often here. But could not find the answer so far.
I have been to Moscow 10 years ago, found a lot of interesting informations on this site. Above all the idea of renting an appartment for a week instead of going to the hotel.
I found here a linke to a site called Debra which offered a lot of appartments for a reasonable price.
Now This site doesn't exist anymore, could you please advise me a site which is offering flats for rent in Moscow for a short period?
Spasibo bolshoe in advance!You could try Airbnb.
https://www.airbnb.com/?locale=en
Crazy Travel
08-28-12, 14:15
Hi! Finally I had my night in Moscow. My flight arrived at 18. 00 and next flight was departing at 6 am next day, so I had not too much time.
First I went as usual to look again the Red Square that I like so much, and finally at about 9pm time for a short girl scene. I was about to try pegas club but due to your advise and thinking that it was in the opposite side of SVO airport, I decided for a second option (I was searching on the web) related to a massage club in Bieloruskaya station!
The club is called Eden and has e website.
It's located in Alexadra Nevsgoko street near Bratislavskaya metro station, but, belive me, it was very hard for me to find that street (I didn't have any gps so I was looking in some maps you can find in the street). End of the story I found it at about midnight!
The entrance is at 19/25 of the street but no sign at all. There are two entrance at that building and the right one is that one with only one ring. I guessed it and luckily I was right.
Once entered I was told about the services: nothing related to what on the website. Only erotic massage and only with one girl (in internet they say about many types of massages and other option – shower, lesbo show, ecce cc. Nothing of that)! The price was 1600 ruble for 1hr (two shot) .2500 for 1, 5hr (3 shot) and 3500 (strange. More than the double of 1hr) for 2hr (4 shot). I opted for 1, 5hr and a line was presented to me. 5 girls (none of them in the internet picture.) not so nice except Olga that I choose. It was a very pleasant and erotic massage, she was very GFE acting and I increase 0, 5 hr more at the end. 4 shot, a long DATY and many hugs.
At 2am I went out and back to the airport but satisfied (even if I think pegas could have been better but I was afraid to found me in trouble went going out in that area with the need to be at SVO airport).
Ronaldinjo
08-28-12, 19:53
Hi Ronaldinjo, you can tell the girl directly if you want to take her in one of the rooms, invite her to over to a bar or your table before you make the choice. Not sure about Loft or Aurora but at penthouse if you lounge by the bar the girls will approach you constantly. 100 roubles for a by-bar dance is customary. 1 hour with a girl will run you 12000 roubles, girl and the room included. The price tag is high and it's a buyer's market so you call the shots.Did someone try the girls from the site? Are the pics and prices real?
Did someone try the girls from the site? Are the pics and prices real?Ronaldo,
Like I said in my earlier post, some of the photos are very accurate and some are not. You must take your chances. Compared with other sites, the girls on Rusdosug have quite accurate photos. Sometimes the photos are old but more or less they are accurate.
The prices are real of course but you can often negotiate.
Stravinsky
08-29-12, 16:58
Once entered I was told about the services: nothing related to what on the website. Only erotic massage and only with one girlThe massage salons in Moscow all operate in pretty much the same way: they put out an inviting website, and promise all kinds of erotic services, but when you arrive, you find Masha and Ksyusha waiting to give you a rub-and-tug.
The only massage salons in Moscow that offer full service are erotic-massage. Com and their sister sites; pussycats. Ru and crazy-horse. Ru.
Also, I think you got your street addresses mixed up. Edem is near Byelorusskaya metro, Pegas is near Bratislavskaya.
Banaanovich
08-30-12, 10:58
The only massage salons in Moscow that offer full service are erotic-massage. Com and their sister sites; pussycats. Ru and crazy-horse. Ru.How do they work? The sites of Pussycats and Crazy-Horse have no phone numbers at all and only very approximate addresses. The girls at Erotic Massage (. Ru?) each have a line for phone number, but no actual numbers are stated, only a +7 and a message saying the girl is not working today.
Stravinsky
08-30-12, 15:37
yes, my mistake: www.erotic-massage.ru
erotic massage has several different locations and the girls will rotate sometimes between them. they're pretty good about letting you know when (and where) a girl is working and when she's not.
if you see the phrase, Сегодня не работает (not working today), then there's no point to call. these are the phone numbers for erotic-massage.
1905 goda - (495) 979-00-64
universityet - (495) 797-74-82
pusrep001s and crazy-horse aren't showing their phone numbers. it could be they are relocating. most of the massage salons operate out of private apartments and sometimes the situation is no longer comfortable, so they have to move.
massage salons have become very popular in moscow over the last 5 or 6 years. sextalk created an entire forum for massage salons that has a lot of current info.
http://www.sextalk.ru/postlist.php?cat=0&board=mass
Crazy Travel
08-30-12, 16:44
Also, I think you got your street addresses mixed up. Edem is near Byelorusskaya metro, Pegas is near Bratislavskaya.You are right, I mixed up the addresses. I went near Byelorusskaya Metro!
Ronaldinjo
08-31-12, 05:16
Ronaldo,
Like I said in my earlier post, some of the photos are very accurate and some are not. You must take your chances. Compared with other sites, the girls on Rusdosug have quite accurate photos. Sometimes the photos are old but more or less they are accurate.
The prices are real of course but you can often negotiate.I saw some really attractive women for 100$/h. Worth trying. What about tochkas, are fanthasis and caramel have the best looking girls?
I saw some really attractive women for 100$/h. Worth trying. What about tochkas, are fanthasis and caramel have the best looking girls?Tochkas are pretty much out of favor these days. That those that are still operating are so far from the center that it's not worth it. Salons offer the best value for dollar on my opinion as you can get some selection and they are right in the center. And Fantasys, Charm'el and Atel are the best and most consistent in my opinion.
As far as bargains go on Rusdosug, it's hit and miss in my opinion. Once a girl gets a steady following, she raises her prices. And once she gets a little older, she lowers her prices. That's just supply and demand. In my opinion, there are no bargains, just pleasant surprises.
Good luck amigo
Ronaldinjo
08-31-12, 13:12
Tochkas are pretty much out of favor these days. That those that are still operating are so far from the center that it's not worth it. Salons offer the best value for dollar on my opinion as you can get some selection and they are right in the center. And Fantasys, Charm'el and Atel are the best and most consistent in my opinion.
As far as bargains go on Rusdosug, it's hit and miss in my opinion. Once a girl gets a steady following, she raises her prices. And once she gets a little older, she lowers her prices. That's just supply and demand. In my opinion, there are no bargains, just pleasant surprises.
Good luck amigoSorry Jake, I meant saloons, not tochkas. As you and other respective members of the thread mention, saloons (fantasys, charmel and atel) are the best ones. I saw the pictures of ladies, and some of them are really attractive. I guess prices range from 200$/h, which is standart for moscow. I will definitely try one of the sallons there. Every saloon have 5-7 girls pictures. Are there more girls available? Or those girls on pics are most attractive? When you enter the sallon you see all of them and choose one or you can see them one by one?
Sorry Jake, I meant saloons, not tochkas. As you and other respective members of the thread mention, saloons (fantasys, charmel and atel) are the best ones. I saw the pictures of ladies, and some of them are really attractive. I guess prices range from 200$/h, which is standart for moscow. I will definitely try one of the sallons there. Every saloon have 5-7 girls pictures. Are there more girls available? Or those girls on pics are most attractive? When you enter the sallon you see all of them and choose one or you can see them one by one?When you arrive, they bring all the available girls in and you choose. But be aware that if you call during a busy time, they may ask you to call again in an hour or in 15 min. Obviously, if you call on Friday at 22:00 it will be much busier than if you call on Monday at 16:00. Also keep in mind that they operate 24 x 7, so if you are jet lagged and feel like some sex in the middle of the day don't be afraid to call.
The Vintner
09-14-12, 19:22
I will be visiting Moscow for the first time in a couple of weeks on business; I will not have a lot of free time but will try and carve out a little fun. I will be staying close to the center for the first two days. I read through a lot of the posts. Great info and appreciated; I hope you guys will clarify a couple of things for me.
I see myself possibly venturing out to a massage Salon or maybe to try one of the ladies from Rusdosug (either outcall or incall). Lots of them really look good; I prefer over 30. Even 40ish.
Here are my questions: Are the prices all inclusive for the services listed or is that just an entry fee for the girls in Rusdosug? I don't like surprises. The prices are all over the map.
Are the prices for the salons all inclusive and is that just for hand jobs. Nothing oral? Are the time different prices based on time and number of happy endings?
Is there any English map that shows where the salons are.
Any other suggestions for a first timer with limited time.
Thanks for any guidance,
TV
Not trying to abuse any angle of the armed forces matter.
But I will be in Moscow for 48 hrs before deployment via Germany to Afganistan and was hoping for one last glimmer of beauty.
Could anyone give me a lead to an incall service that is relatively tested or reliable?
Me limitations are:
- I only know that I will be at the hotel "Delta" on the outskirts of Moscow
- I have $250 or less
- I will only have wifi. No cell or text.
Any leads would be appreciated. Feel free to private message me.
Thanks. D
Hey there Gents.
In Moscow for 48 hrs prior to my deployment to the Afgan.
Could anyone give me a Surefire lead to a hotel incall.
I've got $250 to spend and only wifi / email access.
Thanks D
Stravinsky
09-16-12, 21:26
If you are staying at the Izmailovo Delta, then you are a long way from anything. And 250 USD won't' get you much, particularly if you expect the girl to travel to where you are.
Your best bet is the bar in the hotel, there should be some working girls there, or maybe one of the guys working there at the hotel who can sympathize with your plight and point you in the right direction.
I believe there is actually a complex of hotels there, and if the bar at the Delta doesn't have anything to offer, you might try the other hotels.
Hey there Gents.
In Moscow for 48 hrs prior to my deployment to the Afgan.
Could anyone give me a Surefire lead to a hotel incall.
I've got $250 to spend and only wifi / email access.
Thanks DWait til you get to Germany and go to an FKK club. Much surer thing.
I am going to Moscow for a few days.
I am an experienced FSU mongerer and fluent Russian speaker, but not very well informed about Moscow. My impression is that it is not worth doing incall via individual internet ads (because it is hit and miss and the stakes are high because it takes you a long time to get anywhere) , and not worth doing outcall via individual internet ads (again because of combination of hit and miss and great travel distances, so you may end up sitting in your hotel room for 2-3 hours waiting for a girl that does not turn up or who turns out to be not what you expected).
So my conclusion is that it is better to have a several real girls to choose from in one place rather huge numbers of unreliable internet ads and wasting precious hours travelling around the city or waiting in a hotel room. My plan is to find a relatively centrally located hotel with a good inhouse selection + go out and hit salons.
My question is, does anyone know of a suitable hotel? (I. E. With lots of girls available)? I can pay up to about 250 USD per night for the hotel.
Also, if anyone can recommend the best salons I would be very interested.
I am going to Moscow for a few days.
I am an experienced FSU mongerer and fluent Russian speaker, but not very well informed about Moscow. My impression is that it is not worth doing incall via individual internet ads (because it is hit and miss and the stakes are high because it takes you a long time to get anywhere) , and not worth doing outcall via individual internet ads (again because of combination of hit and miss and great travel distances, so you may end up sitting in your hotel room for 2-3 hours waiting for a girl that does not turn up or who turns out to be not what you expected).
So my conclusion is that it is better to have a several real girls to choose from in one place rather huge numbers of unreliable internet ads and wasting precious hours travelling around the city or waiting in a hotel room. My plan is to find a relatively centrally located hotel with a good inhouse selection + go out and hit salons.
My question is, does anyone know of a suitable hotel? (I. E. With lots of girls available)? I can pay up to about 250 USD per night for the hotel.
Also, if anyone can recommend the best salons I would be very interested.IMHO. The Peking hotel is the best value for dollar. Good location, good quality. Can't comment on the quality of the girls, but have a word with the doorman and he can fix you up.
As far as girls go, I think the most reliable ones are the independents on.
www.rusdosug.com
Seriously. And if you are fluent in Russian then you will be able to get exactly what you want with a Russian girl who does not speak English. Again, IMHO the English speakers was way too expensive but they know that non-Russian speaker have few options and are more likely to pay more.
As far as salons go, the best quality are;
www.fantasys.org
www.charmel.biz
www.atell.ru
Well run. Clean. Good girls and very discreet.
Big Bro AJ
10-07-12, 16:04
Any one has any recent info about the club Shandra? Is it still open, where is its location? (Last time it was in a alley on Tverskaya)
Any recomandations for high class strip clubs (so called gentelman clubs)?
Any one has any recent info about the club Shandra? Is it still open, where is its location? (Last time it was in a alley on Tverskaya)
Any recomandations for high class strip clubs (so called gentelman clubs)?Penthouse Club.
Aurora 911.
The Loft
Shandra is now near Sukharevskaya metro stop.
I just a really good time with Diana from Rusdosug profile: indi108625. Htm.
She's sweet, incredibly sexy, she loves to take care of men and she's not too expensive.
Damage 5000Rub for one hour without watching the clock. She came to get me downstairs, close to station Rimskaya.
Her flat is in good order, not too fancy but clean.
She offered some tea and we spoke a bit. She's really very nice.
Sex was awesome. Absolutely awesome.
The girl really knows how to take care of men.
WIR: As soon as I come back to Moscow.
Thanks a lot Jake, your a star!
At one point I thought your advice might not be so good, or plain advertising. Charmel and Fantasys are obviously a chain (judging from their websites). Atell is no longer operational. I tried Charmel. When I called, the "dispatcher" was very inquisitive about where I found out about the salon. Ultimately, she gave me an address (Metro Arbatskaya, Nikitskiy Bulvar 10, in front of a Sberbank). When I got there and called for further directions, she asked me to wait for a bloke to come and get me (a bit unusual). He turned up after perhaps four minutes. Then he said all the rooms were taken, so we needed to wait outside the entrance for 10 minutes. So we stood there for 10-15 minutes in light rain. Ultimately we were let in. I was guided to a large bedroom, quite dim, with big, royal furniture as on their webpages (huge bed, big puffy red velvet elements, gilded chandeliers etc.). After a couple of minutes there was a linup of 5-6 girls. All cost 5000 RUB, more than your typical 2500-3700 RUB price. I chose Alina. Perfect breasts, pretty face, great conversation (for a Russian-speaker) , incredible legs, hungry French kissing from the first moment and various other very intimate interaction. But no BBBJ. No way, not for money, threats, promise of marriage, not for anything. But a goddess nonetheless. Being a greedy bastard, afterwards I wanted to try to Gulya, whom I had wondered about choosing in the first round. New lineup, but no Gulya. So I ended up with Rita (?). Her behaviour and body was similar to that of Alina, but not quite the same magic. When I was done with her, it turned out that Gulya was now free. She is Kazakh, ultra petite (perhaps 155 cm tall) , which is what I like, and not quite the same slender body as the others, but not bad, not bad. I was unsure whether I could manage more, but she turned out to be a newbie and to have genuine enthusiasm and that was enough to get me going and keep me going. There were big mirrors all along one side of the bed, and she kept getting me to do all manner of impractical things so that she could enjoy the view.
In sum, a great place. A bit expensive, but you get what you pay for, beautiful girls and passionate, high-quality sex. The bathroom is also nice. I intend to try Fantasys tomorrow.
BTW, I ended up at Hotel Korston. The entrance to the 911 strip club is in the lobby, and there are at least 10 working girls hanging out in the lobby on most evenings, perhaps more. Its a bit of a walk to the metro (15-20 minutes?) , but that's good for your health. All in all not a bad place to be. I picked up an natural ultrablonde-redhead with freckles like the southern hemisphere sky, a gorgeous face, flirtatious smile, slightly stocky body, but ok. Like all the lobby-girls at Korston, she cost 6000 RUB. Total GFE, French kissing, anuslingus both ways, CIM on her initiative and enough sex to give me a hangover. Turned out she is from a provincial city in a different part of the country, and comes in for a week to earn some cash. Thats the official story, but it seemed to me she not only in it for the cash, but also for her own genuine satisfaction.
IMHO. The Peking hotel is the best value for dollar. Good location, good quality. Can't comment on the quality of the girls, but have a word with the doorman and he can fix you up.
As far as girls go, I think the most reliable ones are the independents on.
www.rusdosug.com
Seriously. And if you are fluent in Russian then you will be able to get exactly what you want with a Russian girl who does not speak English. Again, IMHO the English speakers was way too expensive but they know that non-Russian speaker have few options and are more likely to pay more.
As far as salons go, the best quality are;
www.fantasys.org
www.charmel.biz
www.atell.ru
Well run. Clean. Good girls and very discreet.
A little more on Hotel Korston:
- Free wifi without login.
- Free telephone calls anywhere in the world (!)
- Breakfast lasts until 1700 (!)
- Entrance to 911 strip club inside the lobby area (I haven't tried it myself, because its not my thing and I expect prices to be inflated compared to the salons I can surf as a Russian speaker). But for well to do non-Russian speakers it may be an interesting option.
- Apparently no limitations on bringing in guests, as long as you meet them at the entrance. (And now walk of shame here, as there is so much commercial sex going on here anyway.)
Please everybody, share more info about hotels (everywhere in the world). So often I find that that is what you really need to know in advance, and it is difficult to find info.
I just a really good time with Diana from Rusdosug, close to station Rimskaya.You could hardly go too far wrong at a location like that! :)
Hello, team!
I'm planning to go to moscow, I need your help, does anybody know a hotel where I can get some girls, I look for GFE or any scort but should be not to expensive, if someone know something let me know.
Tonymax
A little more on Hotel Korston:
- Apparently no limitations on bringing in guests, as long as you meet them at the entrance. (And now walk of shame here, as there is so much commercial sex going on here anyway.) Yeah. Korston is a bit of a hidden gem. Off the beaten track and not too many "tourists". There is also a FABULOUS Korean restaurant in site as well (if you like that cuisine). It's a shame but they used to have a great pool hall until about a year ago but, unfortunately it has been shut down. And yes, there is always a who cadre of WG hanging around the lobby near the stairs to the strip club. Very happy you enjoyed it.
When I called, the "dispatcher" was very inquisitive about where I found out about the salon.Ooops! I forgot to mention that they like to keep the place on the DL and prefer only word of mouth. Ha ha. I know this room to which you are referring! Have not been for over a year. Need to go back and check out the fresh talent! One question. Just for date purposes, what time did you arrive and on which day of the week did you go? Just curious. Thanks
I will be visiting Moscow in the near future and was thinking about staying in the Swiss Hotel due to the proximity to where I will be doing business. I was hoping that someone had some current information on this place. From the looks of it, girls have been seen there but the speculation was that they'd be expensive. What is expensive? I don't have a big budget, but do have a little bit of flexibility because I will be traveling alone. Are there any saloons near there? It was very hard for me to determine because I have never been to Russia and am not familiar with the "districts." Am I better off just doing an in-call?
Thanks in advance for any info.
I will be visiting Moscow in the near future and was thinking about staying in the Swiss Hotel due to the proximity to where I will be doing business. I was hoping that someone had some current information on this place. From the looks of it, girls have been seen there but the speculation was that they'd be expensive. What is expensive? I don't have a big budget, but do have a little bit of flexibility because I will be traveling alone. Are there any saloons near there? It was very hard for me to determine because I have never been to Russia and am not familiar with the "districts." Am I better off just doing an in-call?
Thanks in advance for any info.Swiss Hotel is a very nice hotel. Rooms are expensive and so are the girls. Unfortunately, the location of the Swiss Hotel makes it difficult for you to enjoy the more affordable places. IMHO you have two options.
1. Call in from a web site. This can be good but it CAN be bad if you do not get what you want. The other thing to do is go down to the lobby and have a word with the bell man out from the revolving door. Not INSIDE the hotel but just outside beyond the revolving door. These guys know how to get girls and you will be safe. And they probably speak enough English to get you what you want.
2. Make a reservation at Night flight for 9:30 PM, have dinner and then go downstairs and select a girl that you like. I suggest this for a few good reasons. You are a newby to Moscow and don't speak the language. If you find a girl from NF you can easily get a taxi from out front to take you to Swiss Hotel. MOST of the girls from NF will not rip you off for fear of getting barred entry. The girls are pricey but not NEARLY as expensive as the Swiss Hotel. As a new comer to Moscow, this is NOT the time to explore bargains. Sure it will cost you $70 for dinner, $50 for drinks in the cabaret and probably $500 for the girl including taxi. But you can choose what you want and no surprises.
Have fun.
Jake
Swiss Hotel is a very nice hotel. Rooms are expensive and so are the girls. Unfortunately, the location of the Swiss Hotel makes it difficult for you to enjoy the more affordable places. IMHO you have two options.
1. Call in from a web site. This can be good but it CAN be bad if you do not get what you want. The other thing to do is go down to the lobby and have a word with the bell man out from the revolving door. Not INSIDE the hotel but just outside beyond the revolving door. These guys know how to get girls and you will be safe. And they probably speak enough English to get you what you want.
2. Make a reservation at Night flight for 9:30 PM, have dinner and then go downstairs and select a girl that you like. I suggest this for a few good reasons. You are a newby to Moscow and don't speak the language. If you find a girl from NF you can easily get a taxi from out front to take you to Swiss Hotel. MOST of the girls from NF will not rip you off for fear of getting barred entry. The girls are pricey but not NEARLY as expensive as the Swiss Hotel. As a new comer to Moscow, this is NOT the time to explore bargains. Sure it will cost you $70 for dinner, $50 for drinks in the cabaret and probably $500 for the girl including taxi. But you can choose what you want and no surprises.
Have fun.
JakeNight Flight +7 (495) 629-4165 Receptionist speaks English.
Gamma Ray 007
10-19-12, 22:18
Hi! Finally I had my night in Moscow. My flight arrived at 18. 00 and next flight was departing at 6 am next day, so I had not too much time.
It's located in Alexadra Nevsgoko street near Bratislavskaya metro station, but, belive me, it was very hard for me to find that street (I didn't have any gps so I was looking in some maps you can find in the street). End of the story I found it at about midnight!
The entrance is at 19/25 of the street but no sign at all. There are two entrance at that building and the right one is that one with only one ring. I guessed it and luckily I was right.Thanks for the report! I think this is the correct metro vicinity: Metro Belorusskaya (2 min) , St. Alexandra Nevskogo 19/25, white door on the right hand from the "Maya" beauty salon entry.
Hi guys,
I will in Moscow in November for 3 days, planning to have fun (lots) beside business. It is the first time to Moscow and prefer not go out of hotel metropol since I will be with my boss.
Please need help for price and how to proceed.
Thanks
Nille Copenhagen
10-26-12, 19:10
Hi guys,
I will in Moscow in November for 3 days, planning to have fun (lots) beside business. It is the first time to Moscow and prefer not go out of hotel metropol since I will be with my boss.
Please need help for price and how to proceed.
ThanksI suggest you call escort agencys and make some arrangements or maybe there are girls in your hotel bar, but they are normally overpriced.
NC
FruitNinja
10-26-12, 22:27
www.fantasys.org
www.charmel.biz
www.atell.ru
Well run. Clean. Good girls and very discreet.What is the cost of the salons?
I suggest you call escort agencys and make some arrangements or maybe there are girls in your hotel bar, but they are normally overpriced.
NCOverpriced? I don't need GEF just full service sex
Hi guys,
I will in Moscow in November for 3 days, planning to have fun (lots) beside business. It is the first time to Moscow and prefer not go out of hotel metropol since I will be with my boss.
Please need help for price and how to proceed.
Thanks100% agreement with Nillie Copenhagen. Call in some professional help. The girls in the lobby will be expensive.
www.rusdosug.com
Has always worked for me because you are dealing directly with the independent service provider (usually) and less subject to bait and switch. If your Russian is not sufficient to communicate click the "EN" language tab directly in the upper right hand corner so you will be directly first to girls who "say" they understand English. If not, then try another. You will notice the the first page is dominated with ads from "black girls" which may not be your style. Don't worry, just scroll down the page until you see something you like. As long as there is the little "Union Jack" with the words "Speaks English" you should be ok.
Of course, Rusdosug is not the only web site out there. Just go to.
www.google.ru
In the search box type "Moscow Escorts" and you will see plenty of pages of girls. Unfortunately, you are now dramatically increasing the odds of "bait and switch". It's not FAIR to say that you never get the girl you see on the web site, but it's TRUE! Having said that, I have heard of guys who have had GREAT luck with the "POT LUCK" approach so who am I to talk badly? It's really up to you.
Finally, if your Russian is good enough, then by all means go to the "Source" for sex in Russia which is.
www.sextalk.ru.
I also have a few other "sources" you can call. Will be happy to share if you can PM me.
Good luck,
Jake
What is the cost of the salons?In my experience, it's about 4, 000 rubles an hour. Mind you, that information is about a year old. Some others on this board may have visited more recently.
100% agreement with Nillie Copenhagen. Call in some professional help. The girls in the lobby will be expensive.
www.rusdosug.com
Has always worked for me because you are dealing directly with the independent service provider (usually) and less subject to bait and switch. If your Russian is not sufficient to communicate click the "EN" language tab directly in the upper right hand corner so you will be directly first to girls who "say" they understand English. If not, then try another. You will notice the the first page is dominated with ads from "black girls" which may not be your style. Don't worry, just scroll down the page until you see something you like. As long as there is the little "Union Jack" with the words "Speaks English" you should be ok.
Of course, Rusdosug is not the only web site out there. Just go to.
www.google.ru
In the search box type "Moscow Escorts" and you will see plenty of pages of girls. Unfortunately, you are now dramatically increasing the odds of "bait and switch". It's not FAIR to say that you never get the girl you see on the web site, but it's TRUE! Having said that, I have heard of guys who have had GREAT luck with the "POT LUCK" approach so who am I to talk badly? It's really up to you.
Finally, if your Russian is good enough, then by all means go to the "Source" for sex in Russia which is.
www.sextalk.ru.
I also have a few other "sources" you can call. Will be happy to share if you can PM me.
Good luck,
JakeThanks Jake for these infos, do you have an idee of prices for professional help or girls in lobby.
www.rusdosug.com
Seems intresting but are they reliable for services and prices?
Thanks Jake for these infos, do you have an idee of prices for professional help or girls in lobby.
www.rusdosug.com
Seems intresting but are they reliable for services and prices?I have "availed" of the services of 6 different girls from Rusdosug over the past few years. 4 have been as good or better than advertised (and expected) and two have been so-so. Of those 6 none have been what I would call bad or disappointing. What I like about most of the girls on this site is that they are independent. You can negotiate with them directly. There are a few whom I think might work in salons but they tend to be ones who are available for "incall" only.
As for "lobby girls", it completely depends on the hotel. Generally speaking, the more expensive the hotel, the more expensive the girl. The last time I got a price for a lobby girls was in the Sheratorn Palace. It was funny because the price for a girl was about the same as the price of the room. If you are paying $300 a night for the room, then the girl is going to ask for $300 for the session. But that was a few years ago before I moved to Moscow so I have to confess that my information is a bit dated.
I have "availed" of the services of 6 different girls from Rusdosug over the past few years. 4 have been as good or better than advertised (and expected) and two have been so-so. Of those 6 none have been what I would call bad or disappointing. What I like about most of the girls on this site is that they are independent. You can negotiate with them directly. There are a few whom I think might work in salons but they tend to be ones who are available for "incall" only.
As for "lobby girls", it completely depends on the hotel. Generally speaking, the more expensive the hotel, the more expensive the girl. The last time I got a price for a lobby girls was in the Sheratorn Palace. It was funny because the price for a girl was about the same as the price of the room. If you are paying $300 a night for the room, then the girl is going to ask for $300 for the session. But that was a few years ago before I moved to Moscow so I have to confess that my information is a bit dated.Thanks a lot Jake, I guess I will see once there which options I have, keep in touch.
Chill Bill
11-05-12, 17:39
Jake (and others who have met Rusdosug girls). Any chance these girls are looking for real relations? Have any of you tried to seduce a Rusdosug girl into a 'real' date. That is, not paying for the services? With so many of these girls being super hot, any chance any of them are looking for real love? Or, do you think most of them have real boyfriends in real life?
I have "availed" of the services of 6 different girls from Rusdosug over the past few years. 4 have been as good or better than advertised (and expected) and two have been so-so. Of those 6 none have been what I would call bad or disappointing. What I like about most of the girls on this site is that they are independent. You can negotiate with them directly. There are a few whom I think might work in salons but they tend to be ones who are available for "incall" only.
As for "lobby girls", it completely depends on the hotel. Generally speaking, the more expensive the hotel, the more expensive the girl. The last time I got a price for a lobby girls was in the Sheratorn Palace. It was funny because the price for a girl was about the same as the price of the room. If you are paying $300 a night for the room, then the girl is going to ask for $300 for the session. But that was a few years ago before I moved to Moscow so I have to confess that my information is a bit dated.
What is the cost of the salons?5000 roubles for an hour as far as I remember. The rooms are impressive, facilities clean and girls are great. But they have strange compliated operations where you have to wait for a guy on the street to come out and meet you and accompany you to the actually salon. Without Russia you might struggle with this part. And they never ever do BBBJ, dunno why. (Anal sex is possible with some of the girls, but the price might double.) The girls are divine, friendly and very polite.
Jake (and others who have met Rusdosug girls). Any chance these girls are looking for real relations? Have any of you tried to seduce a Rusdosug girl into a 'real' date. That is, not paying for the services? With so many of these girls being super hot, any chance any of them are looking for real love? Or, do you think most of them have real boyfriends in real life?The girls like you to treat them nice, some of them will be happy to have a real date with you and to be your girlfriend, some of them might even be looking for a husband, but the DNA of a FSU girl says "the man pays". If you are looking for real love and not paying with money, you are looking at the wrong country, and if you are looking for free sex, you are on the wrong planet.
Having said that, I happen to meet a girl in a salon in Moscow (outside treti kalso) , she gave me her personal phone number and we met several times; once she invited me at the wedding of one of her friends; she insisted that I did not pay, but she did not quit working in the salon and I had to meet her whenever she was available and not to argue that I would prefer to meet her at some other time.
I love Russian girls; in FSU, everything is possible
Chill Bill
11-07-12, 16:17
The girls like you to treat them nice, some of them will be happy to have a real date with you and to be your girlfriend, some of them might even be looking for a husband, but the DNA of a FSU girl says "the man pays". If you are looking for real love and not paying with money, you are looking at the wrong country, and if you are looking for free sex, you are on the wrong planet.
Having said that, I happen to meet a girl in a salon in Moscow (outside treti kalso) , she gave me her personal phone number and we met several times; once she invited me at the wedding of one of her friends; she insisted that I did not pay, but she did not quit working in the salon and I had to meet her whenever she was available and not to argue that I would prefer to meet her at some other time.
I love Russian girls; in FSU, everything is possibleInteresting! Part of me is just wondering if these girls are so hard-up for money that they would do anything to get it (e. G. Escorting). The answer seems to be yes, but I'm just wondering what life for them is like away from this work. Do they live in extreme poverty? Do they need to provide for their parents / siblings, etc. If that is the case, it seems like someone hiring them for their sex services (and looking for real romance) can potentially sweep them off their feet, and take them away from this life? Thoughts / comments?
Jake (and others who have met Rusdosug girls). Any chance these girls are looking for real relations? Have any of you tried to seduce a Rusdosug girl into a 'real' date. That is, not paying for the services? With so many of these girls being super hot, any chance any of them are looking for real love? Or, do you think most of them have real boyfriends in real life?IMHO. Most of these girls have boyfriends in real life. We are just business.
Interesting! Part of me is just wondering if these girls are so hard-up for money that they would do anything to get it (e. G. Escorting). The answer seems to be yes, but I'm just wondering what life for them is like away from this work. Do they live in extreme poverty? Do they need to provide for their parents / siblings, etc. If that is the case, it seems like someone hiring them for their sex services (and looking for real romance) can potentially sweep them off their feet, and take them away from this life? Thoughts / comments?I believe that it is all of the above. Some come from the provinces and send their money home. I'm sure these girls all dream of being swept off their feet but remember, Russian girls are realists and don't allow themselves to believe that such things are really possible. For them, the glass is always half empty.
Interesting! Part of me is just wondering if these girls are so hard-up for money that they would do anything to get it (e. G. Escorting). The answer seems to be yes, but I'm just wondering what life for them is like away from this work. Do they live in extreme poverty? Do they need to provide for their parents / siblings, etc. If that is the case, it seems like someone hiring them for their sex services (and looking for real romance) can potentially sweep them off their feet, and take them away from this life? Thoughts / comments?The girls is FSU are sentimental and realist at the same time, and that is great because they take advantage of both.
If you understand that and you are willing to play the same game, you will have a gooooooooood time. But if you try to play some other game like being sentimental and not realist or if you try to change them, then you will be trapped.
Good luck!
But if you try to play some other game like being sentimental and not realist or if you try to change them, then you will be trapped.So, so, so true. I don't know if it's a post-Soviet mentality or if it has been this way for all time, but Russian girls are very, very good at separating love from sex. And they seem quite happy to keep it that way whether for professional purposes (like girls in a salon, or at NF) or for personal purposes (like carrying on an extra-marital affair). But if you try to change then into a Western style mentality, to get them to blend sex and love as two sides of the same coin, you may not like what you have created. To quote my friend in Colorado who "saved" a Russian working girl and brought her home to be his wife,"she made my life a living hell".
Chill Bill
11-10-12, 18:39
So, as a non-Russian speaker, I'm trying to understand what is the best way to contact these girls. Phone numbers are listed, but I'm not sure if these are the private phone numbers of the girls, or some office number. Has anyone tried to call the numbers posted on the Rusdosug profiles of the girls? Is that the best way to reach them? Please advise. Thanks!
Stravinsky
11-11-12, 18:19
And the answer is: all of the above.
It could be an independent girl, working on her own, who will answer the phone herself.
Or it could be a group of girls who went in together on an apartment, in which case Oksana might not be there to answer the phone, but Natasha will.
Or you might end up talking to the dreaded "despyetcher" (dispatcher), who can tell you; a) whether Oksana is working, or not, right now and, b) direct you to her apartment if she is, or c) make an appt. with her for a future date or time.
The thing to do is just make the call. Shucks, making the phone call is half the fun.
Remember, grasshopper, every journey begins with taking the first step.
I 'will be at Metropol 5. 6. December, any tips to have fun?
I 'will be at Metropol 5. 6. December, any tips to have fun?Hi Caveman.
I believe this is your first trip to Moscow, correct?
Metropol is a great location for recreation so you have that going for you. It's been a long time since I stayed there but back in the day the lobby girls were pretty decent and pretty available. At the risk of drawing criticism from the more experienced members of the board, a first trip to Moscow simply MUST include a trip to Night Flight. As I have written sooooo many times, make a dinner reservation midweek for about 9:00 PM. 10:00 PM upstairs. If you can snag a table close to the stairs, so much better. The food is great (but no cheap) and enjoy the view. After dinner (no sooner that 11:00 PM) take a wander down to he bar (because you had dinner the $35 entry is waived) and have a drink at the bar. It's not nearly as good as it once was but there are still some pretty fine babes for hire. Most will speak decent English so if your Russian skills are limited this is good way to start.
If you don't fancy taking one of these girls home with you and are interested in Moscow's version of a strip club, catch a taxi out front of Night Flight and go down to Aurora 911. They will undoubtedly have some of the finest looking strip girls you have ever seen. And from there it's a 5 minute walk to your hotel. There is sex available on-site so no problem there. All it takes is money.
If you want to call-in a service provider. Try.
www.rusdosug.com.
Don't forget to click the EN in the top right corner. This will take you directly to girls who speak English.
If you want to try your hand at some down market girls, try Hot dogs (aka BoarHouse, aka Chesterfields). But I warn you, while these girls are 2nd (or even 3rd tier) they ask tier 1 prices so be prepared to negotiate hard. I have not been there in a while but they tell me that they have a new section down at the end of the bar where they encourage the working girls to congregate.
Have fun!
Hi Caveman.
I believe this is your first trip to Moscow, correct?
Metropol is a great location for recreation so you have that going for you. It's been a long time since I stayed there but back in the day the lobby girls were pretty decent and pretty available. At the risk of drawing criticism from the more experienced members of the board, a first trip to Moscow simply MUST include a trip to Night Flight. As I have written sooooo many times, make a dinner reservation midweek for about 9:00 PM. 10:00 PM upstairs. If you can snag a table close to the stairs, so much better. The food is great (but no cheap) and enjoy the view. After dinner (no sooner that 11:00 PM) take a wander down to he bar (because you had dinner the $35 entry is waived) and have a drink at the bar. It's not nearly as good as it once was but there are still some pretty fine babes for hire. Most will speak decent English so if your Russian skills are limited this is good way to start.
If you don't fancy taking one of these girls home with you and are interested in Moscow's version of a strip club, catch a taxi out front of Night Flight and go down to Aurora 911. They will undoubtedly have some of the finest looking strip girls you have ever seen. And from there it's a 5 minute walk to your hotel. There is sex available on-site so no problem there. All it takes is money.
If you want to call-in a service provider. Try.
www.rusdosug.com.
Don't forget to click the EN in the top right corner. This will take you directly to girls who speak English.
If you want to try your hand at some down market girls, try Hot dogs (aka BoarHouse, aka Chesterfields). But I warn you, while these girls are 2nd (or even 3rd tier) they ask tier 1 prices so be prepared to negotiate hard. I have not been there in a while but they tell me that they have a new section down at the end of the bar where they encourage the working girls to congregate.
Have fun!Thanks Jake,
You are right, its my first time to Moscow. I don't feel going out of the Hotel since I'll be with my boss. I'll try lobby girls. You have any idee of actuel rates for full service over there?
Thanks Jake,
You are right, its my first time to Moscow. I don't feel going out of the Hotel since I'll be with my boss. I'll try lobby girls. You have any idee of actuel rates for full service over there?Since I live here and don't frequent the hotels lobbies much this is PURELY a guess. In the Metropol, I suspect that girls will come up for about $200 for anywhere from an hour to 90 minutes. Not great value for $$ but it's sort of captive market.
The other alternative of course is to call in a service provider.
Good luck.
SportBilly1976
11-30-12, 21:28
Hi,
I am in Moscow for 10 days over New Year. Have been a few times before and have lots of non pro contacts lined up for, I hope, some free fun.
However, if all else fails where is a good place to find none pro, semi pro or pro. Young student types. I will be saying in Delta or Vega hotel in Izmailovskaya)
SportBilly1976
11-30-12, 21:50
Going to Moscow at end of December for 10 days, staying in Vega hotel I think. Have some local none pro "friends" lined up for freebiest, however, if does not go to plan, where can I find young student types. Ie- none / semi or full pro's.
Are the Student escorts sites genuine or fake pics.
Going to Moscow at end of December for 10 days, staying in Vega hotel I think. Have some local none pro "friends" lined up for freebiest, however, if does not go to plan, where can I find young student types. Ie- none / semi or full pro's.
Are the Student escorts sites genuine or fake pics.Billy,
When you say 10 days at the end of December I am assuming you mean BEFORE December 31st. As you may know, a LOT of people leave the city for the New Year's holiday and Moscow becomes a veritable ghost town. However, during the last days of December you could well be in luck. IMHO the single best place to scout out student type chicks is still (wait for it) Papas Place on Myasnitskaya Ulitsa between Chisty Prudy Metro and Lubyanka Metro. It is located in the middle of no fewer than three universities and is frequented by loads of students. They serve cheap booze and attract MORE than your fair share of horny co-eds. Check it out dude.
www.papas.ru
Enjoy.
Jake.
PS. The student sites are a waste of your time. Bait and switch. They have been showing the SAME photos since 2005.
Hi, does any body know if there are any lobby girls at this hotel. Thanks
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