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Jake993

07-02-13, 06:34

EastGoing, I only did a few steps to 'hide' my activities with multiple girls. I already mentioned hiding the roses previous girls had left. I washed towels as needed and I changed the sheets one time. Otherwise I just let it go. I didn't do anything about scents, and I didn't pull any hair out of my brush after they used it.

A wise person on this forum made an interesting comment a while back. I think it was very telling. I forget who it was but I remember what he said. It was something along the lines of (simple paraphrase) : 'Russian women like that their man is good enough to attract multiple women and they are happy they are among those women that are good enough to be chosen. ' While I am sure that is not true with all of them, I do think it is part of their culture. Just don't throw it in their face.

Also, while this forum may be most oriented to direct P4P, it seems the FSU threads have a long history of discussing alternatives to direct P4P.Yummy,

Great report indeed. Clearly you are a master of preparation.

As far as hiding activities, I do believe that the quote you refer to comes from the late, great Dr Skank who was renown for setting up multiple dates in one day. And I whole heartedly agree with the notion. I currently date two "regulars" who, regularly come to my apartment for sex. One often stays the night the other never stays the night. Each of them leave odds and ends behind. A toothbrush here, a t-shirt there (And just for the the record there are NO feminine hygiene products in my flat). I am SURE they both know that they are not the "only one". One even jokes about my "babnyk" tendencies. I think there's almost a competitive spirit at work here for my attention.

As Western men, isn't it great to be on this side of the equation for a change? Let me offer an interesting anecdote. There's a expat bar near my flat that I often frequent. The only problem with expat bars is that in addition to expat guys, sometimes expat women show up. And take if from me, there is nothing more amusing than a drunk (but otherwise attractive) British, American, Aussie, Canadian, Kiwi woman in an expat bar in Moscow crying her eyes out because she can't get the attention of men in Moscow. Western men don't want them because, let's face it guys, in Moscow we don't need them. And the Russian guys who come to expat bars sure as HELL don't want them for reasons I am sure you are all aware of. There's one American girl in particular, who will drone on and one to anyone who will listen about how wrong it is for Western guys to come to Moscow and be with gorgeous Russian girls whom otherwise they would stand no chance with back home. The law of the jungle prevails!

Come on back to Moscow any time Yummy. The P4P action is not what it used to be, but it makes for good sport. Not that you need it with prep skills like yours!

Jonners

07-03-13, 10:21

And take if from me, there is nothing more amusing than a drunk (but otherwise attractive) British, American, Aussie, Canadian, Kiwi woman in an expat bar in Moscow crying her eyes out because she can't get the attention of men in Moscow.There is one thing more amusing a drunk (and otherwise good looking in Russia) Russian guy in a expat Russian club in the west, with his man bag, crying his eyes out because he can't get a girl in the west. Western girls find Russian men unattractive and once here they have no chance with Russian girls. As one of my exes said when I asked her why she never went to any Russian expat clubs. She said they were just full of desperate Russian guys. I couldn't argue.

WanderTheWorld

07-03-13, 13:21

There is one thing more amusing a drunk (and otherwise good looking in Russia) Russian guy in a expat Russian club in the west, with his man bag, crying his eyes out because he can't get a girl in the west. Western girls find Russian men unattractive and once here they have no chance with Russian girls. As one of my exes said when I asked her why she never went to any Russian expat clubs. She said they were just full of desperate Russian guys. I couldn't argue.I loled. If only they could understand the treasures they have. Sales representative are generally chosen from good looking guys and girls. But the company I visited in Russia had gorgeous girls whom should be considered gorgeous by any standard but they were considered average there.

I will be visiting Moscow again next week. I'm trying to find some women through rusdosug. I wish I had the time to go to some bars.

I'll be staying at tulskaya azimut hotel. Last time I was in Moscow it was cold and we couldn't get out of the hotel. This time I might be able to walk around late at night. Is it safe to go around in Tulskaya? My only other alternative right now is to call an escort and enjoy time with whoever shows up in front door.

YummyPL

07-03-13, 17:56

OK, I am headed back to Moscow in a few weeks. Should I branch out or stick with my "freebies"? Any special investigation requests from my friends here?

Anyone in Moscow interested in going out? I should be there around 26 July.

Stravinsky

07-03-13, 18:54

Jonners

07-04-13, 09:48

Well here's a novel concept. A Russian expat club! Didn't know such things existed. Where would I find something like this?

I've been to Brighton Beach several times and never saw anything like a Russian expat club. :PStrav. I shall take you comment above at face value and ignore potential sarcasm. You will note I said club not nightclub. Just like any expat club in any major city in the world the Russian expat clubs are there for expats and the majority of people have no intention of settling in the country they live in. I think Brighton beach is mainly full of immigrants so maybe they arent needed. The clubs organise cultural evenings ie if the bolshoi is touring, networking events, dinners and social events and of course trips to bars. I personally find them very useful to practise my Russian so I don't forget it when I'm not there. Anyway not really much to do with Moscow or girls so if anyone does want more info PM me.

Stravinsky

07-04-13, 18:18

You will note I said club not nightclub.OK, I understand, you're talking about a social club--a group of friends or acquaintances with a common ethnic or cultural background who get together and organize social or cultural events. Nothing indicative of the general experience of Russian expats or immigrants and certainly nothing akin to the many public watering holes in Moscow where expats hang out.

Stravinsky

07-06-13, 18:41

OK, I am headed back to Moscow in a few weeks. Should I branch out or stick with my "freebies"?Yummy,

Why not do both? If your current Russian girlfriends are comfortable with the understanding that the relationship is not exclusive, then why not take off and branch out. I'm sure Jake will be happy to point you in the direction of some fertile hunting grounds.

The only problem will be if that iPad translator thingamajiggey craps out on you at a crucial moment, you will have to think fast on your feet. Based on your recent experience, I shouldn't think that would be a problem for you.

Jake993

07-08-13, 06:08

there is one thing more amusing a drunk (and otherwise good looking in russia) russian guy in a expat russian club in the west, with his man bag, crying his eyes out because he can't get a girl in the west. western girls find russian men unattractive and once here they have no chance with russian girls. as one of my exes said when i asked her why she never went to any russian expat clubs. she said they were just full of desperate russian guys. i couldn't argue.wow. i am speechless. i never really though about that but that makes total sense. question: how do russian speaking western guys do with russian girls in expat clubs in the west? that's probably a rhetorical question because once russian girls get to the west they probably become quickly un-datable.

Jake993

07-08-13, 06:14

I loled. If only they could understand the treasures they have. Sales representative are generally chosen from good looking guys and girls. But the company I visited in Russia had gorgeous girls whom should be considered gorgeous by any standard but they were considered average there.

I will be visiting Moscow again next week. I'm trying to find some women through rusdosug. I wish I had the time to go to some bars.

I'll be staying at tulskaya azimut hotel. Last time I was in Moscow it was cold and we couldn't get out of the hotel. This time I might be able to walk around late at night. Is it safe to go around in Tulskaya? My only other alternative right now is to call an escort and enjoy time with whoever shows up in front door.Tulskaya is not bad. The nightlife is not terrible in that area. Don't laugh, but you may want to check out the 3rd level of the Eravan Plaza Shopping Mall. There are a few restaurants there (TGI Friday's, Itazh, etc) where some fairly hot chicks hang out at night.

Aaragon1977

07-09-13, 00:43

What website did you use?Thanks for the detailed post, Can you please let us know the same of the website you used to line up the dates?

James Bond 007

07-09-13, 15:57

Swiss Hotel is a very nice hotel. Rooms are expensive and so are the girls. Unfortunately, the location of the Swiss Hotel makes it difficult for you to enjoy the more affordable places. IMHO you have two options.

1. Call in from a web site. This can be good but it CAN be bad if you do not get what you want. The other thing to do is go down to the lobby and have a word with the bell man out from the revolving door. Not INSIDE the hotel but just outside beyond the revolving door. These guys know how to get girls and you will be safe. And they probably speak enough English to get you what you want.

2. Make a reservation at Night flight for 9:30 PM, have dinner and then go downstairs and select a girl that you like. I suggest this for a few good reasons. You are a newby to Moscow and don't speak the language. If you find a girl from NF you can easily get a taxi from out front to take you to Swiss Hotel. MOST of the girls from NF will not rip you off for fear of getting barred entry. The girls are pricey but not NEARLY as expensive as the Swiss Hotel. As a new comer to Moscow, this is NOT the time to explore bargains. Sure it will cost you $70 for dinner, $50 for drinks in the cabaret and probably $500 for the girl including taxi. But you can choose what you want and no surprises.

Have fun.

JakeI know this is an older post, but are the rates for Night Flight still accurate? I assume these are US$ that Jake is referring to. From other posts here, other clubs like Aurora 911 has hourly prices starting at 12, 000 rubles, so are the NF prices similar Aurora 911?

YummyPL

07-09-13, 23:24

Thanks for the detailed post, Can you please let us know the same of the website you used to line up the dates?Sorry Aaragon1977, the person that shared it with me asked me not to share it with the general population. I have shared it with a long-time contributor and truly helpful poster, but you have not achieved that status yet.

Navoti

07-10-13, 11:06

Ok I need some more specific advice regarding options in Moscow. In particular salons or massage places or apartment girls. I have a very limited schedule but will be in Moscow 9 days. I will be free starting 11pm until 10am each night (sex kitten has me occupied with cock worship sessions during the day. Got to love these Russian girls). I'll be staying in Avtozovodskaya so I'm looking for a local spot to sample some of Moscow's offerings. A warm up for my layover in Frankfurt. So anyone know of any options easy to get to or close by my area where I don't need to know Russian (I know I'm asking a lot here). I know there is G Club (strip club) easy walking distance not sure if girls here will "date", There is at least 1 Salon in Avtozovodskaya but I can't seem to find any good info on it. In call is probably not a good idea. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

By the way for any guys looking to date Russian women I can't emphasize enough how much you need to be alpha and be in control with these girls while still being a gentleman after you have established a romantic connection. These women love to be dominated gently and passionately. When they respect your authority then you will be rewarded with total devotion. Be up front about what you want, be fearless (unless confronted by drunk Russian guys) , and let them know exactly what you expect from them. Do not be afraid of being demanding. Most American men don't know how to do this very well but it's a great lesson for American women also, they truly aren't that different. Be fearless, don't apologize for who you are, have high expectations and express them clearly. Most women love a challenge.

Iceberg27

07-10-13, 13:29

Sorry Aaragon1977, the person that shared it with me asked me not to share it with the general population. I have shared it with a long-time contributor and truly helpful poster, but you have not achieved that status yet.I was already curious about that and appreciate your reason not to share Yummy.

But you other guys what you think about this issue.

I have been in Russia and Ukraine and I think it's very useful to have some contacts before you arrive.

At least you can catch someone who can speak english. Better than asking every girl in a night club (Do you speak english? Do you understand me?) I have tried mamba last week but not so effective. Do you have any advice on dating websites? I am planning to make a second visit to Moscow. I was using RussianEuro. Not so bad but I am sure there are better ones. And another question. What is the best approach method you think? Telling her that you are local there or tell that looking for a wife that you will bring outside of country? Thanks for your contributions in advance. BR

EastGoing

07-10-13, 16:02

No worries, just speak international language. I can speak a bit of rubles, euros, gryvnias, crowns, dollars, leis, zlotys, etc. ; P

Aaragon1977

07-11-13, 01:14

Sorry Aaragon1977, the person that shared it with me asked me not to share it with the general population. I have shared it with a long-time contributor and truly helpful poster, but you have not achieved that status yet.I don't have any plans to visit Russia in the near future unless my company decides to acquire a company, I was just curious. Anyway, I don't see an issue with sharing the URL of a website unless ofcourse signing up on the website guarantee's girls waiting to pick you up at the airport.

Thanks again for the reports.

Chayvo

07-17-13, 07:10

Hi guys,

I`ve read some old posts about Charmel, Fantasys, Elittv and seems like, they`re best in town. Planning to visit Charmel soon and have some questions for the ones who have experience in them. It`s my first time in a brothel, so sorry in advance for my stupid questions.

1) What is price for an hour service nowadays? I`ve read that it was 4500 rubles in 2010.

2) Is it possible to nail her more then once in one hour service. I mean; what if I cummed in 15. Th minute what should I do for the rest 45 minutes.

3) I`ve also read that some of our fellas experienced anal in there. Is it inc the hourly price or should I give extra for it?

4) Anyone in there speaks or at least understand English? Their site is all in Russian. And I wonder what will happen if I call their number for reservation.

5) And someone please help for the address? The below address is in their site. But what is the door number? How should I go there?

&1052; &1086; &1089; &1082; &1074; &1072; ,

&1053; &1080; &1082; &1080; &1090; &1089; &1082; &1080; &1081; &1073; &1091; &1083; &1100; &1074; &1072; &1088;

M&1077; &1090; &1088; &1086; : &1040; &1088; &1073; &1072; &1090; &1089; &1082; &1072; &1103;

Thanks in advance for anyone helps me. Russia is not like Europe so it makes me a bit nervous.

WanderTheWorld

07-18-13, 13:37

Hey Jake thanks for the advice last week to go to Friday's. We visited Friday's on Wednesday but it is no use being there with 4 guys, no time and no Russian. We just enjoyed the dinner and left for our hotel. Did not see many people in there and the place gets closed at 10 pm. Overall the place was good.

This is a late report but better late then never. Here it s:

On Monday I called a couple of WGs that I have found through rusdosug who can speak English, that I liked and preferred anal sex. Out of 4,3 of them opened their phone and only 1 of them could speak English well enough to communicate. She said she wasn't available and referred to another friend of hers. I called her friend she spoke English well and said she can come in an hour. For my first anal sex it wasn't that good, probably because she always seemed like she was in pain. You can find their profile here and my comment on the website as well.

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi83477.htm

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi133592.htm

On Wednesday I called the previous girl I was with when I was in Moscow. She gained a bit of a weight but she was still energetic and smiling, great service. Price increased a bit, charging for an extra taxi fee.

There was also another girl that I have found who didn't speak English but emailed in Russian. However after 40 email exchanges things didn't go as planned and I couldn't see her. Either I wasn't available or she wasn't. Google translate helped here a lot. Her email exchanges showed me she is trying to manage this herself. Being unable to see her seems unfortunate.

All of these aside the most important thing for me this time was I was able to use metro and walk through the city. I traveled mostly to Chekovskaya but we had time to walk around during lunch time. So I was able to see what normal people looked like on Metros, cafes, streets. I also had the time to visit Gorky park in the Thursday evening and it was a great atmosphere. People dancing with people they just met, many trying to chat with each other. It wasn't like any other park I have seen. No one in the group was interested in nightclubs but I found out that Nightlife was really close to where we work on Friday.

After a week of confusion, happiness and mystifying girls we had to go back to my country. The first 2 days I didn't feel that different but it has been a week now and I feel a change in my behavior. I like porn and sexy pictures of girls as much as the next guy however I have been reluctant to watch anything related to porn since I came back. I had a habit of trying to look at every girl around me however my habits also changed, now I am finding girls around me really average. It feels like I haven't seen a beautiful girl since I came back from Moscow. A waitress we saw at a restaurant in the middle of a park in Moscow would be considered extremely beautiful here in Turkey. Most of the men we saw in Moscow didn't really look at the girls we considered beautiful. Now I feel like I'm doing the same thing here.

I don't really know if this attitude is temporary however it feels like it won't go away. I'm considering learning Russian because business requires it but it seems hard. Anyway I just wanted to share it and hope this helps others as well.

I will try to make a post for newcomers linking to well written posts so they know what to read before asking questions.

EastGoing

07-18-13, 18:42

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi133592.htmI can't believe it! That's "my" Paulina! Is that the one you fucked in the ass? How much you paid? Tell me more! LOL!

Iceberg27

07-18-13, 20:10

Hey Jake thanks for the advice last week to go to Friday's. We visited Friday's on Wednesday but it is no use being there with 4 guys, no time and no Russian. We just enjoyed the dinner and left for our hotel. Did not see many people in there and the place gets closed at 10 pm. Overall the place was good.

This is a late report but better late then never. Here it s:

On Monday I called a couple of WGs that I have found through rusdosug who can speak English, that I liked and preferred anal sex. Out of 4, 3 of them opened their phone and only 1 of them could speak English well enough to communicate. She said she wasn't available and referred to another friend of hers. I called her friend she spoke English well and said she can come in an hour. For my first anal sex it wasn't that good, probably because she always seemed like she was in pain. You can find their profile here and my comment on the website as well.

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi83477.htm

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi133592.htm

On Wednesday I called the previous girl I was with when I was in Moscow. She gained a bit of a weight but she was still energetic and smiling, great service. Price increased a bit, charging for an extra taxi fee.

There was also another girl that I have found who didn't speak English but emailed in Russian. However after 40 email exchanges things didn't go as planned and I couldn't see her. Either I wasn't available or she wasn't. Google translate helped here a lot. Her email exchanges showed me she is trying to manage this herself. Being unable to see her seems unfortunate.

All of these aside the most important thing for me this time was I was able to use metro and walk through the city. I traveled mostly to Chekovskaya but we had time to walk around during lunch time. So I was able to see what normal people looked like on Metros, cafes, streets. I also had the time to visit Gorky park in the Thursday evening and it was a great atmosphere. People dancing with people they just met, many trying to chat with each other. It wasn't like any other park I have seen. No one in the group was interested in nightclubs but I found out that Nightlife was really close to where we work on Friday.

After a week of confusion, happiness and mystifying girls we had to go back to my country. The first 2 days I didn't feel that different but it has been a week now and I feel a change in my behavior. I like porn and sexy pictures of girls as much as the next guy however I have been reluctant to watch anything related to porn since I came back. I had a habit of trying to look at every girl around me however my habits also changed, now I am finding girls around me really average. It feels like I haven't seen a beautiful girl since I came back from Moscow. A waitress we saw at a restaurant in the middle of a park in Moscow would be considered extremely beautiful here in Turkey. Most of the men we saw in Moscow didn't really look at the girls we considered beautiful. Now I feel like I'm doing the same thing here.

I don't really know if this attitude is temporary however it feels like it won't go away. I'm considering learning Russian because business requires it but it seems hard. Anyway I just wanted to share it and hope this helps others as well.

I will try to make a post for newcomers linking to well written posts so they know what to read before asking questions.So you tell me you go to Moscow from Istanbul and not visited Aurora 911? My friend you had missed a lot of things. By the way it seems like opposite but for example Artemis Berlin can be more impressive than anywhere in Moscow (Night Flight-Golden Girls). I am also Turkish and live in Istanbul. So understand you well.

Kaboca

07-18-13, 21:05

I had a straight idea about the girls I wanted to visit in Moscow so made some research on rusdosug and mailed to Karina in the morning to make sure we can meet in the evening. She's got some positive feedback on the site so thought its going to be a great start of my trip. Here come her links:

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi111345.htm

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi96792.htm

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi130459.htm

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi130466.htm

She replied by the time when my plane landed and I was asked to call her one hour before our meeting. Did so and was told to meet in front of an Adidas shop, can be found on Prospekt Mira 78. Finding the place was relatively easy even if it is my first time here and I do not speak Russian at all. Not even a word.

Anyway I was there and her girlfriend picked me up to guide me to an apartment in the neighborhood. The place was simple, the bathroom dark and messy but at least there were some variation of shower and gotten a clean towel. Good enough for an action.

Actually the pictures on the site are heavily photoshopped so divide it with 10 and that's Karina. Bit bigger tummy as expected, boobs are small but okay, no surprise and the most important factor for me: really nice ass!

But at this point the issue started. I believe she just bought a new iPad as when I arrived she just played with it and the box and the charger was on the table. Didn't even look at me until the money was shown. The expression on her face was telling me: do as fast as you can so I can continue playing with my new gadget. What the hell? Horrible-horrible attitude. I thought I have felt time-pressure before with a girl but this was the real TP!

So I told myself if you have such a ***** attitude I'm not going be tender with you. No way. Decided to punish her and drill that ass as hard as I can. Normally my size makes me act slowly and tenderly but now I didn't even care if its going to be dry in that ass or painful for her.

I think I succeed. There was a "little" uncomfort on her face when I gaped her plus was continuously grabbing the sheet as I drilled deeper and deeper.

The conclusion of the night was not to judge by this as there can be many pretty one with better attitude. Generally speaking the devushkas are real beauties over here so I can't wait to go out and see them again tomorrow.

Karina was good for a harsh anal action but that's all she can perform. Not recommended.

WanderTheWorld

07-18-13, 22:21

I can't believe it! That's "my" Paulina! Is that the one you fucked in the ass? How much you paid? Tell me more! LOL!200 euro 2 times- 1 hour. 1 in ass 1 normal way. She was extremely small just like her statistics say. You can do anything with that body. Her face is nothing like that though. Doesn't speak English. I normally can control myself and go on for a long period however nothing helped when I was in the ass so I came really quick. She left as soon as we were done. Speaking Russian would help a lot. Anything else you want to ask?

YummyPL

07-19-13, 01:46

200 euro 2 times- 1 hour. 1 in ass 1 normal way. She was extremely small just like her statistics say. You can do anything with that body. Her face is nothing like that though. Doesn't speak English. I normally can control myself and go on for a long period however nothing helped when I was in the ass so I came really quick. She left as soon as we were done. Speaking Russian would help a lot. Anything else you want to ask?I assume with condoms? BTW, nice report.

EastGoing

07-19-13, 03:03

I'm proud to inform the world that I did it! I can actively give my contribute to the Moscow thread with a field report! Here's the event, pratically a disaster, but for the score still counting as a goal.

After several calls in early morning, including Dolce Vita Salon with the expected result, I finally found a basic english speaking girl who answered the phone. Prospekt Mira 78. Lost in her struggled English and in my enthusiasm I took for granted the metro stop would have been Prospekt Mira. Got there and started walking (and phoning the girl every kilometer) , actually it was less than a minute walk from Rizhskaya Metro, quite a long way from where I supposed it could be, I even trespassed it because the last number I could see was 74. After taking an underpass and ending up in a sort of square without houses but just commercial businesses, I was ready to surrender. When I called her saying that if she didn't come to pick me up I'the quit, she gave the clue of adidas shop, to wait out there. A taxi driver pointed it to me, he was quite smart, I'm sure he could have been of great help, unfortunately I didn't meet him 2 days ago and I would have left a few hours later.

I was rescued by a pretty icy KGB agent, who came out from the courtyard looking for a man who would fit the given description, walked after me, we both understood we were each other's target, then came back saying with low voice something like 'Ia niet anglisky'. We walked to the place in silence, she checked that no spies noticed us and carefully let me in the building. Inside the nice flat, where one of the closed glass doors seemed to lead to another place, TV with minimum volume and whispered phrases to 'understand' what had happened to the expected Genya (cell. 89252342834) , who, inspite of being "busy", managed to 'drive' me there. We agreed for 1 hour. 3000 rubles + 1000 for BBBJ. 2 pops. She sent me for shower, as usual superfast for me, and then she disappeared 12 minutes o'clock for her own shower, during which I noticed the equipment: Miramistin, condoms, creams, different kinds of tissues, etc.

She came back wrapped in a nice towel, which she didn't seem to want to get rid of. She started an icy BBBJ and complained when I wanted to move because my dick prefers to be blown from a face-to-face perspective, which also enables me to see the action. I thought she was shy and I didn't complain when very soon she improperly put the condom on slightly hurting me. I took her from behind and quickly understood that I wasn't allowed to touch her, nor boobs, nor pussy, nowhere. I finished quickly and was left alone for another good 10 mins plus.

When she came back I was wondering about the second pop, and I wasn't surprised when she gladly accepted my suggestion to use google translator (from one of the 3 computers I could see in the room) to have a sort of conversation with infos. She showed me her ad,

http://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=154333

, honestly the girl in those pics could well be her sister or even her, but what a fucking difference, really compliments to the photographer. I believed her when I noticed that there wasn't a pic with a smile, because her front teeth are quite yellowish with a couple of brown stains, detail that had made me accept willingly the shortness of the BBBJ.

Somehow I convinced her to go for it, reassuring her I'the be watching somewhere else. Maybe one minute, then condom, again badly put, and same position. This time I wasn't even allowed to hold her by the hips, which I wanted to do also because she was always trying to sneak away for being penetrated as less as possible. I pulled out to adjust the condom and she hugely complained. I understood by the handling of creams that I had been blamed for touching the condom with my naked fingers. Maybe she had surgery gloves among her stuff and I didn't notice them? I was informed I had less than 10 minutes left, and that the timing, obviously, starts as soon as you enter the flat, good deal for some 25 minutes shower time. My dick decided before me that it was enough. She 'said' I could go for shower, I hope she understood my gesturing that my time might have run out while I wasn't fully dressed and therefore I was risking to be kicked out half naked. Perhaps if I had started making a mess she would have behaved differently, since no noise was supposed to be heard by counterespionage, but I didn't even care.

No need to warn you guys to keep away from Paulina, but since this was my first, only and probably last shot in Moscow, I don't regret it, considering that bad encounters have happened and will happen everywhere. I've seen plenty of girls I would have felt ashamed to lay (and even touch) for any amount, many times I didn't feel at ease because I was the only one overtwisting his neck to watch those stunners while nobody else seemed to mind them.
EG,

Can't help but wonder, of all the possiblities available to you, how did you settle on &1055; &1086; &1083; &1080; &1085; &1072; (Paulina)?Guys, I take the freedom to resurrect these 2 months old posts, shortened. WanderTheWorld, as you can see, I shared the same feelings about turning my head to admire beauties among unminding Russian folks. But Stravinsky's says it all, I can't help joining him and ask you and Kaboca: how did you manage to end up in that flat? Did you at least enjoy watching the stars on the ceiling, since for sure you weren't taken to the sky by the girls? If I had a justification for ending up there, you 2 don't, ahahahah!

P. S. Yummy, I bet my ass it was with condom, probably Paulina would like to put 2!

Kaboca

07-19-13, 11:00

WanderTheWorld

07-19-13, 14:30

Guys, I take the freedom to resurrect these 2 months old posts, shortened. WanderTheWorld, as you can see, I shared the same feelings about turning my head to admire beauties among unminding Russian folks. But Stravinsky's says it all, I can't help joining him and ask you and Kaboca: how did you manage to end up in that flat? Did you at least enjoy watching the stars on the ceiling, since for sure you weren't taken to the sky by the girls? If I had a justification for ending up there, you 2 don't, ahahahah!

P. S. Yummy, I bet my ass it was with condom, probably Paulina would like to put 2!EG:

It was a business trip and we were staying at Eridan previously so going to Azimut was a step forward for us. I was at the top floor so I'd have enjoyed the stars if I wasn't so tired or if there was a sight of a star to see from bed. In order to profit they made the rooms so small that you'd have hard time walking past the bed to the desk.

How I ended with polina is that I made a call to her friend who is here.

https://www.rusdosug.com/indi83477.htm

And then she referred me to her bc she wasn't available. When I looked at her comments on rusdosug I didn't see anything and I was the unlucky guy to make the first comment. I don't really know how to find the same girl in intimcity. Nl so I couldn't look her up. If I had a way of linking a girl I find on rusdosug with a girl on intimcity. Nl I wouldn't have called her (is there a way?). I never intended to call her in the first place so I remember reading your report and since I wasn't going to call her, I didn't take any notes.

Of course with condoms, she is really bad at placing them, kinda hurts when she does it. Even if she smiled the photographer would have made her look like an angel. I paid 150+50 euros when she came to the hotel. How did you not like her ass though? I think if it was any smaller we'd both have a hard time. After 5 mins of slow penetration I was moving normally as I should but then it was too much for me to handle.

Kabuca:

Saw your reviews at the site, please write a review for each of the girls you see. Searching for girls with "verified by admins" doesn't do much for getting an idea of her real looks, almost every girl is verified. I don't think rusdosug admins care much about us then they care about the WGs, they probably have some connection to them. I have added a couple of guys on rusdosug site who have made good and bad reviews of the girls, the girls they report are much better than trying to find through the search mechanism.

Kaboca

07-19-13, 22:39

I planned to warm up the day with Nastya found on rusdosug: http://www.rusdosug.com/indi133833.htm

Her English knowledge seemed to be promising plus the price is also nice if the massage and the HJ / BJ is okay. So in the morning I visited the main tourist spots just to make myself thinking about something else than girls, but. Beauties are everywhere. Those short skirts and long legs are killing me. Bloody hell! God bless Russian devuskas!

Anyway had a lunch in GUM (I can highly recommend restaurant Stolovaya No. 57) and called Nastya to meet within an hour. It went smooth, really good English, not a strong accent at all and after we finished the conversation was messaging me the address within a minute. Went back to my accommodation and as it was not that far from my place decided to walk there. However if you would chose public transportation it is close to the metro Krasnopresnenskaya, and the salon is at Volkov pereulok 13. Was really easy to find and even arrived earlier. Messaged her if she is ready I am also but asked me to wait. No problem. But I was waiting like 20 minutes more! WTF? Again-and-again. Customer satisfaction? He? Does it mean anything here?

Okay-okay, was just letting me calm down as it would not be a great start to argue. Finally she picked me up at the door and we went to the salon in a tiny room.

She has a really cute face, really-really cute, so don't be afraid if this is your fetish. Told she is 20 but looks younger. Body is so-so. Not the nicest I have ever seen but okay for one. Her face was compensating everything. As she explained the system works like that: 1800 RUB for a regular massage and HJ (and I can even touch her! Wow!) but there are some extra options. She can be naked, can give a body-to-body massage, can do an almost-like-BJ with her neck (?) and there was another option I can't recall anymore as it was probably nothing special. Each extra 1000 RUB plus. I went for the naked option but was just waste of money.

However not to be so strict there was a huge advantage with her: she was smiling! . The first (and hopefully not the only one) girl in Moscow. I would not say she was enthusiastic but at least smiled back and was communicative. Finally, someone!

Had a quick shower, removed her clothes and she started the massage. Surprisingly good for such a small girl. Pretty strong hand she had and was doing well on my back, shoulder, legs and torso. It was like 10 minutes I think when she asked me to turn and after some nice touch did a HJ. Nothing spectacular (means probably I will forget it within a month if you won't remember me) but a good one to warm up the day.

We were chatting a bit more, had a quick shower, kissed her face and left. I had the feeling she can be a nice and warm person but had no chance and time to discover it. Anyway I recommend here, but don't expect too much.

My main course for the day was Elina:

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi130813.htm

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi130658.htm

I think you understand me why. She looks like a classic beauty and can expect some great time with her!

So called her in the late afternoon for a night meeting. Personally I like to discover Moscow and it is also way more cheaper, so challenged myself again to find the place. As it turned out I was talking to an operator who told me the address but obviously I couldn't understand anything so asked her to send it via a text message so it's going to be easy for both of us. She said okay and was waiting like 10 minutes so I text her: please don't forget to send me the address. Nothing. No reaction.

Now tell me what the hell is wrong here? Hello! I'm the fucking customer want to pay you 10000 RUB! Please let me do so! :/

Called back 30 minutes later and she was just saying sorry and sending that effin' message with the address: Kutuzovskiy prospekt houm 1. Well the street is okay but what the hekk is houm 1?

Called again now it is me saying sorry but asked to send me the address again in Russian as maybe that would be more helpful. It was like &1050; &1091; &1090; &1091; &1079; &1086; &1074; &1089; &1082; &1080; &1081; &1087; &1088; &1086; &1089; &1087; &1077; &1082; &1090; &1076; &1086; &1084; 1, ahhhhaaa now it makes sense. So dom number 1, or building / block number 1. Excellent!

Was there in time and called here to find where I exactly should be. It turned out I have to go through a gate inside a courtyard and find a door with number 10. Went well she was sending me the code to the door, the floor and the door number via another text message. So 3 messages and 5 callings but I was finally in!

As a first look I was unsure if it is really Elina standing in front of me. Don't misunderstand me, there was a cute, blond-blue eyed, nice girl but thought again to kill the photographer for this cheating. Another heavily photoshoped profile but at least what you get in reality is not disappointing at all!

As for enthusiasm in the beginning she was the same herring-type-girl as Nastya but there was something in her eyes made me think like maybe I can change it if I play well this game. So during the hour some obvious joke and kindness and a lot of body language just made her comfortable. I believe.

After a quick shower she also left for a shower and came back with a strange bra. She recently had a surgery and made her breasts 2 size bigger. It's going to be C cup now. It's a pity not to play with those sweet ones but okay, I will survive it. That also warned me to be soft and tender with her, which is definitely my style.

No kiss (only on her body which I practiced a lot) , no cunnilingus, no deepthroat, no anal. That's all folks! :S But for the rest she is awesome! Good reaction keeping her under control, no grizzle at all. Very good GFE. Was even acting like having an orgasm. Wow! Not bad! Obviously fake but that's what I call effort! We had a fun time even if her English is pretty limited. After I was flying away we were chatting on the bed. No TP, just enjoying each other. By the end of the hour she became talkative, quite funny and a great companion. Was leaving with a smile on my face and felt like my mission is completed for today. So highly recommended girl!

Conclusion of the day: if you want a great mongering time here in Moscow think again your budget. It strictly mean: higher price, higher quality. Lower price means horrible and disappointing time.

Bonus conclusion: I can't help myself to compare the girls with my favorite mongering place – Budapest, Hungary. Over there 70 or 80 % of the girls are enthusiastic, kind, cheerful, fun and ready to make you happy! Not all of them but most of them. You will never wait 20 minutes for a girl and even if they can't speak at all but pretty sure they will smile to make you comfortable. Moreover you can get more for less amount of money. The Hungarian ministry of tourism is not paying for this but if you would doubt about where to go, choose Budapest. Generally cheaper than Moscow, the same shitty public transportation, the same language barrier, the same beautiful tourist spots, excellent cousine and the girls are fantastic! That's just my 5 cent.

Chayvo

07-20-13, 10:09

Hi guys,

I`ve read some old posts about Charmel, Fantasys, Elittv and seems like, they`re best in town. Planning to visit Charmel soon and have some questions for the ones who have experience in them. It`s my first time in a brothel, so sorry in advance for my stupid questions.

1) What is price for an hour service nowadays? I`ve read that it was 4500 rubles in 2010.

2) Is it possible to nail her more then once in one hour service. I mean; what if I cummed in 15. Th minute what should I do for the rest 45 minutes.

3) I`ve also read that some of our fellas experienced anal in there. Is it inc the hourly price or should I give extra for it?

4) Anyone in there speaks or at least understand English? Their site is all in Russian. And I wonder what will happen if I call their number for reservation..Come on fellas. Need some help. Again, is it possible to nail her again or choose another girl if I come in 15th minute? I mean; for 1 hour service, are we talking about unlimited come? Or finish your first and get the hell out of here deal?

Kaboca

07-20-13, 17:40

I know I told you yesterday higher price means higher quality but mea culpa, forget about it! I went for Nataliya today and let me tell you why:

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi127087.htm

I was just browsing my favorites on rusdosug and found her profile a bit strange. I mean the same straight blond hair, the same eyes, same teeth. Thought this must be Elina, the girl from yesterday and was really confused. I just couldn't decide it, I hate photoshop.

So I said, hell I will sacrifice myself (just for you guys) and figure out what's going on here.

The morning and the afternoon were about some cultural refreshment but the rainy season just started so stuck to museums (don't miss Phuskin's house on Arbat, really nice).

In the afternoon called the number and wow, what a surprise the same operator as yesterday. I think she recognized me as well so asked her to send me the address. I was pretty sure we will play the same game again so was just taking a nap. Half an hour later still nothing. Not surprised at all, called her again to say a kind whadefakk. She apologized as believed I want to send her my address and ask Nataliya to come over. (I'm curios what will be the story tomorrow, really creative girl on the line) All right, let's do it again and tadaaam here it is: ulitsa Marinoy Roshchi 2-ya, block 22, close to metro station Maryina Roshcha.

Walking there takes like 10 minutes and all can be find by google maps. Yeah, a smart phone is really useful in this city. Was there in time and called her (the operator) again to let me in. Another message with the door number, the code to the door, the floor number and the apartment number. By the third day it is getting a smooth process!

And there she was, Nataliya, definitely not the girl from yesterday but a 160-165 'tall' goddess. Beautiful face, blue smiling eyes, stunning body. Just the perfection you can expect from a 24 yo girl. Not rock hard boobs but I don't care, it was a pleasure to taste them. And, hey almost forgotten to mention the most important thing: really-really enthusiastic! Really basic English knowledge, but a funny girl, ready to play and the fucking awesome attitude I was just waiting for since I'm here.

I did it with her passionately, softly, hardly whatever you can imagine and she was just partner in everything. I have no special desires but I guess with this girl you would also forget it. To summarize it we had an excellent first round and felt like killed after it. She went for a cigarette in the brake time, I was drinking my tea (was just made when I have taken the shower) and having a basic chit-chat. Turned out she is from Ukraine (maybe that's the reason for the different attitude?) adores fancy things and was just examining her perfume collection.

As I told you she was really active, offered me a massage and I couldn't say no for that. She's got very strong hand for such a tiny girl. I think basically she likes getting wild. As she was done I also offered a massage but within 5 minutes (because of the view and touching her body) I was horny again. Made obvious what can be the next step and again we performed a fantastic second round. Missionary, doggy, behind, cowgirl, we tried many positions and was just continuously enjoying each other. Fantastic-fantastic-fantastic! There is no better word for this one hour! I can tell you guys one fact: this was a perfect quality-price rate! What a girl I found, my legs are still shaking.

Do I recommend her? No! She is mine! Ha-ha-ha!

Conclusion of the day: there is no conclusion today. Sorry! It is all about luck finding a girl like she is. I will keep you informed if I figure out more about Moscow. Happy hunting for all of us! Yuppie!

Starchild2012

07-21-13, 05:46

Jake993

07-22-13, 16:48

Come on fellas. Need some help. Again, is it possible to nail her again or choose another girl if I come in 15th minute? I mean; for 1 hour service, are we talking about unlimited come? Or finish your first and get the hell out of here deal?At places like Charm'El, you are on the clock. You pay for the hour, you get the hour. How many times you pop is between you and the girl.

MatAndr81

07-26-13, 14:30

Hi guys,

I`ve read some old posts about Charmel, Fantasys, Elittv and seems like, they`re best in town. Planning to visit Charmel soon and have some questions for the ones who have experience in them. It`s my first time in a brothel, so sorry in advance for my stupid questions.

1) What is price for an hour service nowadays? I`ve read that it was 4500 rubles in 2010.

2) Is it possible to nail her more then once in one hour service. I mean; what if I cummed in 15. Th minute what should I do for the rest 45 minutes.

3) I`ve also read that some of our fellas experienced anal in there. Is it inc the hourly price or should I give extra for it?

4) Anyone in there speaks or at least understand English? Their site is all in Russian. And I wonder what will happen if I call their number for reservation...Hey, here are some answers:

1. The price is 5000 per hour now.

2. You can have sex whatever times you need in this one particular hour.

3. Anal costs 5000 more. It's very expensive in these salons. I would not suggest to spend so much. However, I took two girls at once several times. It's also 10.000 but the experience is amazing.

4. I don't know if they speak any English but a lot of girls in there do speak a little bit.

5. There is no clear address. Usually, they give you some landmark nearby and then the security guy takes you from there to the salon.

YummyPL

07-27-13, 07:21

Hey, here are some answers:

1. The price is 5000 per hour now.

2. You can have sex whatever times you need in this one particular hour.

3. Anal costs 5000 more. It's very expensive in these salons. I would not suggest to spend so much. However, I took two girls at once several times. It's also 10. 000 but the experience is amazing.

4. I don't know if they speak any English but a lot of girls in there do speak a little bit.

5. There is no clear address. Usually, they give you some landmark nearby and then the security guy takes you from there to the salon.Welcome MatAndr81. Your first two posts on the Forum (Germany and here) have been of excellent quality. I look forward to your continued contribution.

YummyPL

07-27-13, 08:11

A short post from me. I am back in Moscow since Tuesday and this is the first I have been on my computer.

First off, I want to give a big public shout out to Iceberg27. He went out of his way to meet me in Istanbul and I failed him. I am sorry brother. I really appreciate your effort and I will send you an email to explain.

So far the trip has not been as fun as the last. It is almost all my fault as I did not have the time for as good planning and I have made some poor choices.

I have been suffering with two age old dilemmas:

1. Staying with pussy you know is good or looking for new pussy that you don't know.

2. Staying with a nice looking girl you know will give you sex or pursuing the hotter girl who might give you sex-or might not.

My only real informative report to give:

I went to Penthouse strip club on Wednesday night about 02:30 in the morning. It was dead with only about 5 other guys there.

1000 entry fee and you can sit at the bar or at chairs outside the immediate perimeter of the stage. For 1500 more you can sit on the couches with tables closer to the stage. That 1500 did not include anything like drinks.

I decided to stay in the "free" areas and hopped back and forth between them.

Drinks expensive as usual but not horrible. 550 for a Mojito and I think I paid 350 for a beer.

As I sat many of the girls approached me for a private dance. Not too aggressively but some were a bit aggressive. Mostly the girls I was not interested in. Several of the girls did their table dance with me, mostly without even asking, and I tipped most of them if it was a nice dance. There were a few that got upset that I did not tip them but I had shown no interest in their dance so I didn't give a rat's behind. Generally I only tipped 100 if they did the dance without my expressing interest and 200 if I did express interest. No one asked for any specific amount and everyone thanked me that I gave a tip to. Some of the table dances were very good and worth the tip if you are into that kind of thing.

For the most part the talent was not too impressive for my taste. The "World Famous Penthouse Strip Club" was filled mostly with girls in the 7 range with a few 8s. Not really impressive. Stage dancing not that great either. I've seen better stage dancers at 2nd rate clubs in the USA. Of course this is my taste.

I did like the looks of two of the bartenders but they seemed mostly unavailable.

I don't usually go for blondes but the only girl that go my repeat business was a very cute little blonde. She spoke very little English but she sat with me for long periods talking to me. Danced with me. Let me touch her a lot. I even did two private dances with her. She was very passive-aggressive because she was never pushy but was always very friendly and available. She did a great job with me because she made a fair amount of money from me over 2. 5 hours (probably 4000) when other girls were not making money in the club at all.

She wanted to take me to a room. She quoted 9000 for her and 4000 for the room. I was very tempted at times because she did a great job in the private dances and was very affectionate. I would have done it just to get my first regular Moscow strip club P4P if she had agreed to BBBJ but fuck if I am going to pay 13, 000 for an hour with CBJ. I had "freebies" that looked damn near as good as her that would do anything for me.

I will say that I am really jaded about strip clubs. I have spent WAAAAY too much time in German FKKs to enjoy strip clubs. My favorite club in Stuttgart "Sakura" has a bunch of 7s and 8s that walk around the club nude, are friendly, not pushy, will sit with you, be affectionate, and ALL of them will fuck you for 100 Euros an hour with at least decent service and some exceptional service including BBBJ and a full range of other options. Why bother with a strip club?

I went to Penthouse hoping to see some 9s and maybe some girls close to being a 10. My taste may not be exactly the same as others, but I don't think there is a girl there that would rate a 9 in anyone's book. They just were not that hot. There are so many extraordinary girls walking the streets in Moscow but they are not in this strip club.

Climaxnow

07-27-13, 17:32

Is it fair to say the talent in Moscow strip clubs has declined in the last few years? It was almost all straight 9's a few years back with some 8's and 10's.

YummyPL

07-27-13, 23:49

Is it fair to say the talent in Moscow strip clubs has declined in the last few years? It was almost all straight 9's a few years back with some 8's and 10's.I don't have past experience but I will tell you that within 2 minutes of walking out of my apartment today I saw two girls that were in the 9+ range. One was my taste, the other was not, but they were both significantly hotter than anyone that was working at the club.

Kaboca

07-28-13, 07:58

Great report thanks.

There is a sister website of rusdosug which are frequented by Russians and they add more reviews on each girl than rusdosug which seems to be primarily targeted towards tourists. They share the same database but have more reviews.

http://www.dosug.cz/en/d/gallery?smode=gallery&id_scountry=50&id_scity=1961

Its like sextalk. Ru but has english option. Open the website on Chrome browser and you can read the Russian reviews by left clicking the page and translate to Russian option.

Also, worth checking is intimcity. Nl.

Good luckStarchild,

Thanks for the additional info! It just made even more difficult to decide who is going to be my next candidate.

But that was the only problem during my visit in Moscow.

Cheers,

Kaboca

Kaboca

07-28-13, 08:12

The week went well but was so busy that no time for mongering. The only sex-kind of activity was licking customer's asses. Ehh.

Anyway I managed a free night to visit Iren:

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi123725.htm

She seems a classic beauty so I wanted to try her. Called and immediately was dropped saying "no English". Hmm. Okay lets give a try to this number:

http://www.dosug.cz/en/d/girl?sid=21461&gid=52789

Called and the girl on the phone asked me to text as her English knowledge is close to zero. Suspicious bit no problem. Texted her with basic words to spend an hour together in the evening. 5 minutes later got a reply that it is okay and also the address which is Kutuzovskii prospekt 27, close to Studencheskaya station. Easy to find it so when I arrived texted again for further instructions. She replied with the door number, the code for it, the floor and the appartment door number. Again not a difficult process by the 5th time.

But when I was in the apartment there was a tall, blond, quite nice looking girl standing there and asking where is my friend? Heee?

First she was definitely not the girl from the site, second she had no idea who is going to visit her. Fantastic. The only positive thing was that she was good looking enough not to say bye immediately. Pretty basic English but we agreed that it will work between us and give her 7K RUB plus started to pray and hope not to regret ti. To be honest I didn't!

Came back from shower and she also entered being perfectly naked. Really nice body, rock-hard silicone boobs, nice smiling face. And her attitude was just great, a real professional girl, knowing how to act in different situations. As we warmed up it turned out she can do more as it looks like, a real animal I have found. I cannot even remember when was the last time when a girl was sucking my balls and deepthroating so eagerly than she did. Absolute perfection and was just doing her as I wanted. I'm personally not a dominant type and prefer mutual things but if I can see that a girl desires that, well, why not. To summarize it we had a nice time together, really enjoyable companion and because of the positive and nasty attitude I would see her on my top 3 Moscow girls list right behind Nataliya. However I can not recommend her as she was not the girl from the site and easily can be that you are also screwed.

Conclusion of the day: I've got the feeling that even if you spend here much more time than I could this city will still remain unpredictable. But that is just one of the things which makes it so unique and exciting.

Stravinsky

07-28-13, 22:35

To summarize it we had a nice time together, really enjoyable companion and because of the positive and nasty attitude I would see her on my top 3 Moscow girls list right behind Nataliya. However I can not recommend her as she was not the girl from the site and easily can be that you are also screwed.

Conclusion of the day: I've got the feeling that even if you spend here much more time than I could this city will still remain unpredictable. But that is just one of the things which makes it so unique and exciting.Yes, typically, the best memories of Russia are always those of what you didn't Expect to happen.

Any info this girl; name, rank, serial number, identifying marks? Is she on the internet somewhere? Phone number maybe?

Jake993

07-29-13, 02:03

Is it fair to say the talent in Moscow strip clubs has declined in the last few years? It was almost all straight 9's a few years back with some 8's and 10's.Yes, that's fair to say.

Jake993

07-29-13, 02:37

Conclusion of the day: I've got the feeling that even if you spend here much more time than I could this city will still remain unpredictable. But that is just one of the things which makes it so unique and exciting.Dude, you are so right. After more than two years here, I NEVER know what's going to happen from one day to the next (as it related to girls, dating, sex, etc). The one thing this city is NOT, is predictable!

There has been some talk in the past few weeks about quality. That's an elusive topic. In so far as WG's and strippers are concerned, this is NOT the right time of year. A lot of the students are back home in the provinces, or on vacation. Come late August or September, things will pick in the talent department.

This has been said many times on this forum over the past few years but it bears repeating. The top "professional talent" has gone underground. What I mean is, the 9's and 10's are, once again, largely the exclusive playthings of guys with big bucks. These girls are often (but not always) on sponsorships. You might even say that they have left the "business" for all practical purposes.

You can go to any number of VERY high end clubs and restaurants (that is if you get past face control) and see tables of STUNNINGLY beautiful girls sitting around drinking $50 cocktails and $400 bottles of wine chatting amongst themselves. You ask yourself "who the fuck ARE these babes?" The fact is, that these girls are "on call" waiting for their oligarch or mini-garch "boyfriend" to show up. Seems like waste but these guys pay their rent and give them money for clothes, beauty salons, fitness clubs and restaurants. Their end of the bargain is that they are "on call" several times a week for personal service. Maybe the guys will show, maybe they won't. Regardless, these beauties will sit for hours at their reserved tables sipping cocktails chit chatting while the rest of us mere mortals can only hope for another financial crisis!

Iceberg27

07-30-13, 14:40

[QUOTE=YummyPL; 1451147]A short post from me. I am back in Moscow since Tuesday and this is the first I have been on my computer.

First off, I want to give a big public shout out to Iceberg27. He went out of his way to meet me in Istanbul and I failed him. I am sorry brother. I really appreciate your effort and I will send you an email to explain.

Dear Yummy. I was expecting your recent Moscow report. For missed appointment in Istanbul. Please forget. Really no problem. Not your fault. And something that I am really curious why don't you just try Aurora 911 or Golden Girls? Penthouse is the worst among all three and it's also very disappointing even if you compare with international competitors. (not just in moscow basis) Tell us if you can spot a pick-up club or bar like Real Mc-Coy (I know it's closed.) I hope the rest of the journey gets better. Have fun. BR

Kaboca

07-30-13, 19:59

Yes, typically, the best memories of Russia are always those of what you didn't Expect to happen.

Any info this girl; name, rank, serial number, identifying marks? Is she on the internet somewhere? Phone number maybe?I tried to find her without luck so far. I called the number form this page:

http://www.dosug.cz/en/d/girl?sid=21461&gid=52789

However there were 3 girls in the flat but if you got there would pretty easy to recognize her as she was the only 170-180 high, blond blue-eyed one. There was another dark short haired girl and another one with quite average appearance, short blond-brown hair, not sexy at all. Identifier? For some reason she kept saying "bitte schöand" in German, don't ask me why.

Kaboca

07-30-13, 20:29

Dude, you are so right. After more than two years here, I NEVER know what's going to happen from one day to the next (as it related to girls, dating, sex, etc). The one thing this city is NOT, is predictable!

There has been some talk in the past few weeks about quality. That's an elusive topic. In so far as WG's and strippers are concerned, this is NOT the right time of year. A lot of the students are back home in the provinces, or on vacation. Come late August or September, things will pick in the talent department.

This has been said many times on this forum over the past few years but it bears repeating. The top "professional talent" has gone underground. What I mean is, the 9's and 10's are, once again, largely the exclusive playthings of guys with big bucks. These girls are often (but not always) on sponsorships. You might even say that they have left the "business" for all practical purposes...Actually Jake I'm mad at you. I was PMing before I left to Moscow asking for some guidance but in the end I had to figure out the things on my own. Hey, but I understand first I have to gain some reputation here then I can be a full member.

Never mind, but next time we should have some fun in a club or something! I strongly believe you could be one of my master! I hope I can return back soon as your explanation is just proving that the scene was in a bit in a sleepy mode. (but I've got the invitation for July, couldn't change it to September or October so wanted to get the maximum out of the situation).

Kaboca

07-30-13, 20:48

Just to complete my mongering reports I have to mention freebies and clubs as I've got some experience about those ones too. I strongly believe finding freebies are relatively easy if that's the thing you are up for. I haven't put too much effort on it as it means a simple thing for me: complications. And if there is something I truly hate that are complications with girls. However been in some shops and coffees and some of those waitresses and assistants were smiling in a way you just can not misunderstand it. (and again I don't speak a single word in Russian).

So go for it! Try your luck and hunt them down!

The other thing I didn't plan to do is visiting strip clubs, another thing. I believe. Waste of time and money. But Moscow changed my mind! One of my colleague mentioned Deja Vu, on New Arbat street so we decided to head there on one of my final nights. Real luxury environment and the girls are just hot as the flames of hell. Well, if this is the down-season in Moscow I can not even imagine what could be the menu in peak-season. No disappointment at all. But had to keep in mind it's all about business and get my money out of my pocket. Those girls were not too pushy but would not miss the opportunity to ask for a drink, private dance or something. That's how it goes.

Too keep it short there were a blondinka I asked for a private dance and another tall, blue-eyed, brown beauty. Attached.

Basic English conversation about who-what-where-how and after 2 private dance changed phone number to meet after work. I was really eager to drill her as she was really hot on the stage and in the private dance.

So she came over to my hotel and we spent the whole morning just enjoying each other. A real wild-cat I found again. Full of energy and life and just continuously ready for having fun.

Would be great if the story ends here but then we decided to spend some time together out of the bed as well. Went for a late breakfast and OMFG, what a selfish bitchy attitude. I know I should not be surprised. After all what can you expect from a strip dancer, but still.

Couldn't wait to get rid of her as I was really dissappointed after having so much fun together. On the plane back I was still wondering should have gone for the blondinka, but it's a bit late now.

Came back home and to be perfectly honest I can't wait to go back to Russia. It was a great experience, would be difficult to forget and I wish you the same folks! Enjoy it!

Stravinsky

07-31-13, 02:34

On the plane back I was still wondering should have gone for the blondinkaYeah, you'll be wondering about that for the rest of your life. But that's OK, there are far worse things in life to regret. And sometimes the fantasy can be better than the reality, as you discovered with the girl you brought home.

Thanks for all your posts, they are full of valuable details and good advice for anyone new to Moscow.

Jake993

07-31-13, 05:41

Actually Jake I'm mad at you. I was PMing before I left to Moscow asking for some guidance but in the end I had to figure out the things on my own. Hey, but I understand first I have to gain some reputation here then I can be a full member.

Never mind, but next time we should have some fun in a club or something! I strongly believe you could be one of my master! I hope I can return back soon as your explanation is just proving that the scene was in a bit in a sleepy mode. (but I've got the invitation for July, couldn't change it to September or October so wanted to get the maximum out of the situation).Sorry Kaboca, I am usually happy to help but I was out of the country for the past two weeks with sporadic access to the Internet. Please do look me up next time.

Iceberg27

07-31-13, 21:30

Just to complete my mongering reports I have to mention freebies and clubs as I've got some experience about those ones too. I strongly believe finding freebies are relatively easy if that's the thing you are up for. I haven't put too much effort on it as it means a simple thing for me: complications. And if there is something I truly hate that are complications with girls. However been in some shops and coffees and some of those waitresses and assistants were smiling in a way you just can not misunderstand it. (and again I don't speak a single word in Russian).

Came back home and to be perfectly honest I can't wait to go back to Russia. It was a great experience, would be difficult to forget and I wish you the same folks! Enjoy it!Really nice report. Rarely found info about the freebie issue. Some guys hate to talk about it but it think Moscow Scene deserves to be talking about it. I had picked one last year and still in my mind. I am planning to come to Moscow on 7-11 August. Is there anyone will come up and join? But just confused about these end of August come get back provincers issue. I was there in 2010 in the beginning of September and the atmposphere was quite good. For P4P scene I strictly tell that from heart; Moscow is one of the worst in the world. (except strip clubs). Strip clubs here are far best in the world but WG's are so much and crazy expensive. I don't know maybe it was my clumsiness but if you can't find a good saloon to fuck with you really sucked up there. You can waste 2 months salary for a few days in Moscow. And be realistic you have to go and fuck after alll these strip-club sheet. You will have very low blood in your brain after a few hours in a strip club and you will go and give a sheet 300 USD to a 7 in Night-Flight. Anyway for freebie scene I repeat it's the far best option in Europe and if you have game you can get very nice girls in your bed in the end of the night. BR

YummyPL

07-31-13, 23:47

I am currently sitting in the Turkish Airlines Business Lounge connecting in Istanbul on my way back home. I will once again write a full report on my way home but it won't be as detailed as the last except the cost breakdown. For now, I just want to say that this past Monday and Tuesday had to be among the most absolutely surreal days of my life. Through parts of it I really thought it had to be a dream. This just couldn't be me and these events can't possibly be real. 5 years ago I don't think I could even imagine it possible. Even 6 months ago I wouldn't believe it would be possible to have these experiences. If I only knew 20 years ago what I know now...

I will return to Russia. My next task is to make a concerted effort to improve my Russian. I actually impressed my devooshkas at times when I said some appropriately selected phrases. But my next project is to get out of Moscow and head east. Perhaps on a train. I am again and again drawn to this post:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?772-Other-Areas&p=1213476#post1213476

Stravinsky

08-01-13, 18:18

For now, I just want to say that this past Monday and Tuesday had to be among the most absolutely surreal days of my life. Through parts of it I really thought it had to be a dream. This just couldn't be me and these events can't possibly be real.No, Yummy, you are not dreaming. You were dreaming, and now you are awake.

And you're right, we would all have been much more dangerous 20 years ago, if we had known what we know now.

So, stop wasting time! ;)

Kaboca

08-01-13, 19:00

Yeah, you'll be wondering about that for the rest of your life. But that's OK, there are far worse things in life to regret. And sometimes the fantasy can be better than the reality, as you discovered with the girl you brought home.

Thanks for all your posts, they are full of valuable details and good advice for anyone new to Moscow.Thanks Strav for the positive thinking! I apprecaite that!

If any of you guys going there and find a shy blondinka with a butterfly on her belly just tell her "it was love at first sight"! (the only problem was that I was falling in love with every second girl there, but that not that necessary to mention).

Kaboca

08-01-13, 19:01

Sorry Kaboca, I am usually happy to help but I was out of the country for the past two weeks with sporadic access to the Internet. Please do look me up next time.No worries, I was just kidding and trying to be ironic but smiley's can not be used here.

How about beginning of October?

Jake993

08-02-13, 06:10

No worries, I was just kidding and trying to be ironic but smiley's can not be used here.

How about beginning of October?I should be here!

Kaboca

08-02-13, 12:28

I should be here!Jake, Strav,

I count on you folks, in October!

Kaboca

08-02-13, 22:37

I tried to find her without luck so far. I called the number form this page:

http://www.dosug.cz/en/d/girl?sid=21461&gid=52789

However there were 3 girls in the flat but if you got there would pretty easy to recognize her as she was the only 170-180 high, blond blue-eyed one. There was another dark short haired girl and another one with quite average appearance, short blond-brown hair, not sexy at all. Identifier? For some reason she kept saying "bitte schöand" in German, don't ask me why.
Yes, typically, the best memories of Russia are always those of what you didn't Expect to happen.

Any info this girl; name, rank, serial number, identifying marks? Is she on the internet somewhere? Phone number maybe?Strav,

I found her! I found her! Finally I did.

I'm proud to present you Liliya:

http://www.dosug.cz/en/d/girl?sid=30136&gid=147990

I'm more than 100% sure she is the girl I met over there.

Go for it! Good luck with her!

Eadam

08-03-13, 23:41

Stravinsky

08-04-13, 05:39

I found her! I found her! Finally I did.180cm and 57Kg! Wow, she's a hefty one, but a real stunner.

She also has a listing on intimcity.nl, but with a different phone number.

http://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=154842

968-576-68-32

Unfortunately , no reviews on sextalk, but there is a review on intimcity,

I was with Liliya last week, stunning girl, pleasant and friendly with a beautiful voice. Remarkable body and excellent bust. Looks exactly like the picture. I can give her 5 points out of a possible five. With someone like Liliya you want to return again, and not only once.

A little pricey, she has her price listed as 10,000 руб. /hour. Are you sure she's the same one?

Jake993

08-04-13, 12:50

Hi. I'll be on Moscow next week and I'd like to get your opinion over a few things. I didn't want my first post to be questions so I actually started writing a report about my trip to Thailand this February. It seems like those posts will take a while to be processed so I wanted to get to the questions I have.

First things first, I'm from Turkey. 20s, passable when I'm smartly dressed. Not on a particularly tight budget. I travel alone.

I'm trying to read all the up-to-date posts in this thread and I still have no clear picture on my schedule. Trouble is I'm not organized. I have Monday night to Sunday morning. I'm already booked in moscow through 5 to 8th. (I'm sure that was free cancellation, turns out it was pay-at-booking date.) During this time I want to see St. Pete as well. (I'm really a big history / architecture buff so sightseeing is really important to me.) This is where you veterans come in.

You can help me get my schedule in order by answering these simple questions:

1) In Moscow, I'm booked for an apartment in Arbat. Problem is, I'm more of a LT guy. Can I call a girl to my place (from a site like dosug. CZ) , and sleep without nightmares? Or are Hotels a must for that kind of thing.

2) Or, bringing a WG to your room is a big no-no?

3) The most knowledgeable person I know about Russia (my dad) warned me against doing anything outside my Hotel. I see most of the reports here are people going to the girls apartments, massage parlor, club rooms, etc. Is it really safe?

3) Or, do you take extra security measure? Like never doing it alone, etc.

4) Which city do you think is superior in terms of night activities on a weekend; Moscow or St. Pete?

5) Is 1 day and night enough for St Pete? Or should I "burn" a day of my reservation in Moscow for an extra day in St. Pete?

6) In general, when going out for mongering, how much should I pack, should carry my credit cards, or use cash in clubs and bars?

7) Do you know any places with high chance to score freebies for a guy like me in Moscow?

Thanks for all the info in advance, I hope these are not too much trouble!

And I'm safely back with lotsa reports on 12th!Answers:

1. Apartment is fine.

2. Bringing a WG to your room in an apartment is just fine.

3. Security is not an issue if you bring only one girl at time. Most apartments lock from the inside and allow you to remove the key. Once you are inside, lock the door and hide the key. I prefer the freezer. Salons and strip clubs are quite safe. They invest in extensive security to make sure guests are safe. If anything happens to a foreigner, it's bad for business.

4. Both are great. Tough to differentiate. SPB has more salons in a concentrated area.

5. IMHO. 1 day is plenty.

6. Identification and cash. Leave credit cards in your room.

7. Unless you have some very serious "game" forget the freebies. You do not have enough time unless you have done the prep work like YummyPL. (see his posts) Sorry if I am being too blunt but being Turkish is going to make things a little more challenging. Remember that Russians (ESPECIALLY MUSCOVITES) are quite racist and will consider you to be "black" until they get to know you. Dude, you are not going to have enough time for people to get to know you.

Eadam

08-04-13, 14:28

Thanks for the answers Jake.

I actually share your view about freebies: my chances are slim at best. Especially considering the (well deserved) shitty reputation of Turkish Man. But you know, with the correct combination of vodka, loud music and luck. And man can have hopes. I think I'll try the bar / disco / club scene for at least one night. Not getting in to the hotspots due to Face Kontrol is what worries me.

About the apartment, do the WGs come to private apartments?

(Because in Istanbul, as far as I know, they only meet in trusted hotels unless they know you well.)

Iceberg27

08-04-13, 16:09

Iceberg27

08-04-13, 16:12

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1454484]Answers:

1. Apartment is fine.

2. Bringing a WG to your room in an apartment is just fine.

3. Security is not an issue if you bring only one girl at time. Most apartments lock from the inside and allow you to remove the key. Once you are inside, lock the door and hide the key. I prefer the freezer. Salons and strip clubs are quite safe. They invest in extensive security to make sure guests are safe. If anything happens to a foreigner, it's bad for business.

4. Both are great. Tough to differentiate. SPB has more salons in a concentrated area.

5. IMHO. 1 day is plenty.

6. Identification and cash. Leave credit cards in your room.

7. Unless you have some very serious "game" forget the freebies. You do not have enough time unless you have done the prep work like YummyPL. (see his posts) Sorry if I am being too blunt but being Turkish is going to make things a little more challenging. Remember that Russians (ESPECIALLY MUSCOVITES) are quite racist and will consider you to be "black" until they get to know you. Dude, you are not going to have enough time for people to get to know you. [/QUOT.

Jake you are again too pessimist. Why they are giving free visa to us if that much negative to us or why millions of Russian come and visit turkey every year?

LukeSkywalker

08-04-13, 16:35

She's a very good-looking girl.

Are her boobs real or fakes?

10, 000 rubles per hour at exchange rate 33 Rubles per US$, she charges $300 per hour. That's steep for Russia.

Are there places with equal beauties with lower rates in Mscow or SPB?

Liliya.

Russia, Moscow.

Age. 26.

Height. 180.

Figure. Normal.

Breast size. 3.

Description.

Services.

Prices: 1 hour. 10000 rub 2 hours. 20000 rub.

( Near the Kutuzovskaja metr.

Strav,

I found her! I found her! Finally I did.

I'm proud to present you Liliya:

http://www.dosug.cz/en/d/girl?sid=30136&gid=147990

I'm more than 100% sure she is the girl I met over there.

Go for it! Good luck with her!

Kaboca

08-05-13, 07:31

180cm and 57Kg! Wow, she's a hefty one, but a real stunner.

She also has a listing on intimcity. Nl, but with a different phone number.

http://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=154842

968-576-68-32.

Unfortunately, no reviews on sextalk, but there is a review on intimcity,

I was with Liliya last week, stunning girl, pleasant and friendly with a beautiful voice. Remarkable body and excellent bust. Looks exactly like the picture. I can give her 5 points out of a possible five. With someone like Liliya you want to return again, and not only once.

A little pricey, she has her price listed as 10, 000 &1088; &1091; &1073; . /hour. Are you sure she's the same one?Yepp, I'm sure she is the one! I recognize her. However I was not paying 10K because if you remember my report my plan was to visit Iren. As she mentioned that the price would be 10K I argued a bit and both agreed on 7K.

But honestly I visited 2 girl in the same 10K range and if I had to choose between them Liliya would definitely worth the money. Pricey indeed but this girl knows the business.

Kaboca

08-05-13, 07:49

She's a very good-looking girl.

Are her boobs real or fakes?

10, 000 rubles per hour at exchange rate 33 Rubles per US$, she charges $300 per hour. That's steep for Russia.

Are there places with equal beauties with lower rates in Mscow or SPB?

Liliya.

Russia, Moscow.

Age. 26.

Height. 180.

Figure. Normal.

Breast size. 3.

Description.

Services.

Prices: 1 hour. 10000 rub 2 hours. 20000 rub.

(Near the Kutuzovskaja metr.Luke,

Surely those ones were fakes. But not disappointing at all.

And indeed it is a bit pricey. But I'm not here to make extra marketing for Liliya but to share my experience. The choice is your.

There are various girls with different prices but my ultimate favourite was Nataliya. Best quality price range (for me) in Moscow. Please see my previous post about her.

May the force be with you!

Jake993

08-05-13, 11:01

Chercheur

08-12-13, 15:54

Back to Moscow, I am having a wonderful time (but not enough time to bang all my girlfriends + the new ones).

The fact that mamba banned the word 'sponsor' and the sexy photos did not change anything, there is still a bunch of girls who want sex.

I happen to answer to an elderly women, still 12 years less than me, her add was not sexy, neither were her pictures. We met at the metro University after my class. We chatted for some time walking around; she wanted to know if it was not a trap, if I was a serious guy, if nothing bad would happen to her. I said 'Hey, I am a serious man, I will treat you nice, but I am not looking for a serious relation' and I thought will would walk away. No! She kept talking, and eventually she asked for a present. So we went to my apartment. Her body is slim and firm, she likes sex and it was great.

Hoooo I love Russian women!

YummyPL

08-13-13, 02:16

I've been very busy since my return. I am still writing my post on my 2nd trip to Moscow. While you wait, here are 5 more pics of Olga.

Jake993

08-13-13, 06:32

I've been very busy since my return. I am still writing my post on my 2nd trip to Moscow. While you wait, here are 5 more pics of Olga.Damn. That's some fine stuff Yummy. Very considerate of you. You will be happy to know that the hot weather has returned to Moscow. It seems a memo went out to all the girls saying that "winter is coming so you had better wear your sexy summer outfits while you can".

YummyPL

08-13-13, 14:16

Damn. That's some fine stuff Yummy. Very considerate of you. You will be happy to know that the hot weather has returned to Moscow. It seems a memo went out to all the girls saying that "winter is coming so you had better wear your sexy summer outfits while you can".Argh. It was 18 and overcast almost every day I was there. I chose late July for warm weather but the weather did not cooperate.

Chill Bill

08-13-13, 22:39

Seriously. Is this site for real? All the photos looks professional. Are these women for real, or is this just a bunch of crap? Thanks!

Jake993

08-14-13, 12:07

Seriously. Is this site for real? All the photos looks professional. Are these women for real, or is this just a bunch of crap? Thanks!Sure they are real. But it really IS amazing what you can do with photoshop.

Chill Bill

08-14-13, 22:54

Sure they are real. But it really IS amazing what you can do with photoshop.Ha! True as I am a amateur photographer and have played with Photoshop. I was just concerned about bait and switch. You call them, and someone completely different comes to you. Anyway, are most the of the phone numbers posted the girls actual cell phone? Or, do they go to some call center / agency?

Thanks!

Stravinsky

08-14-13, 23:48

Anyway, are most the of the phone numbers posted the girls actual cell phone? Or, do they go to some call center / agency?Give them a call and see what happens. And let us know what you find out.

Argyle80

08-15-13, 20:51

Hey guys,

First, this thread kicks ass! Great info! I have so many tabs open I don't know which girl to pick. I just got to Moscow and I have four more days to rip it up!

Is anyone up for hitting some strip clubs between tonight and next Monday?

I'm still deciding on a girl. I have this bi-polar attraction to women. I like really busty women, or really tight bodied ones. Unless its free then I'll tag anything from a 4-5 up. LOL

Jake993

08-16-13, 06:21

Ha! True as I am a amateur photographer and have played with Photoshop. I was just concerned about bait and switch. You call them, and someone completely different comes to you. Anyway, are most the of the phone numbers posted the girls actual cell phone? Or, do they go to some call center / agency?

Thanks!I hate to say it, but it really is luck of the draw. Having said that, I have rarely been disappointed and in 10 years of engaging in this "hobby" of ours, I have only sent two back.

Gergiev

08-17-13, 02:23

I've been very busy since my return. I am still writing my post on my 2nd trip to Moscow. While you wait, here are 5 more pics of Olga.Thanks for posting, YPL.

Love that photo #5, so classy in that elegant dress.

I bet you felt good with that on your arm! :)

AmaliaSecret

08-17-13, 19:06

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Argyle80

08-18-13, 17:18

Great posts YPL! The women in this city are unreal. I've traveled a lot and have not seen this.

Just a heads up, I know someone has spoken about 911 Aurora, but this thread is massive and I can't find it. So FYI I had a blast.

Not hassled, its fully nude and they throw in a lot of shows.

After you pay to get in, you're escorted by a sexy hostess to the bar. Beer is 250 rbls.

All bartenders are topless.

Waitresses are braless in tight shirts but regularly go topless and do a show on top of the bar.

A hoop is lowered from the ceiling and two girls do a crazy gymnastics show. All the while stripping. They also do this great scissor move on each other!

Then all the girls come out on stage and parade around for you.

I'd say the lowest girl there was a 7. But I decided to get a private dance from her and it was one of the best I've had.

Just a few Cons:

I just don't have the cash to throw around like some guys do, so like any place, the hottest girls get taken by them.

You can tell that some of the girls are bored or not enjoying their night. I mean, we all have shitty days at work right?

One girl there just wanted to fuck. As soon as I went in to a private dance with her. But I quickly chuckled when she said 15,000 Rubles. She asked again later in the night.

I have a line on another there though. Great tits, nice pussy lips and big blow job lips. I'll let you know how it goes.

One more FYI- I went to Dolls it sucked more than the club in the shitty small town I grew up in. 1600 Rbls to get in. 380 for a beer. Out of the 5-6 dancers I watched, nursing my beer. One was good, and oddly because she danced really slow. It was pretty erotic but a few didn't even strip. I cut my losses and went back to Aruras.

YummyPL

08-18-13, 21:41

Love that photo #5, so classy in that elegant dress.

I bet you felt good with that on your arm! .Gergiev, that is actually a very sheer night gown although obviously you cannot tell it is so sheer in the pictures. Nonetheless on our second date she was dresses exceptionally elegantly, And yes, it felt very good to have her on my arm.

It is the end of the weekend and I am still not done with my report so here is a picture of me and Katia together. I try not to havve my tongue hanging out all the time.

Jake993

08-19-13, 05:58

One more FYI- I went to Dolls it sucked more than the club in the shitty small town I grew up in. 1600 Rbls to get in. 380 for a beer. Out of the 5-6 dancers I watched, nursing my beer. One was good, and oddly because she danced really slow. It was pretty erotic but a few didn't even strip. I cut my losses and went back to Aruras.Argyle80,

Glad you like Aurora 911. If you want variety, try one of the sister clubs like Penthouse, Angels, or The Loft. All the same management. All the same format. Many of the same girls. More fun than a barrel of monkeys!

Argyle80

08-19-13, 18:57

Argyle80,

Glad you like Aurora 911. If you want variety, try one of the sister clubs like Penthouse, Angels, or The Loft. All the same management. All the same format. Many of the same girls. More fun than a barrel of monkeys!Thanks man, I felt silly going in there a third time but it was also nice to get a few smiles and hellos from the girls. The bartender even cracked a beer for me as she saw me walking in.

A few different girls there this time too. One A tall Redhead, slim and naturally stacked, my fav body type. I got two private dances from her and, well, man those tits. Anyway.

I hooked up with the one girl I described below and it was exactly what I wanted. She was great.

There is still one there, a very petite, cutest look blonde with shorter hair and hard nipples that I never got around to.

Where is Angels? A guy at Aurora's told me about it as well but when I search for it. It's not listed anywhere.

Jake993

08-20-13, 11:22

thanks man, i felt silly going in there a third time but it was also nice to get a few smiles and hellos from the girls. the bartender even cracked a beer for me as she saw me walking in.

a few different girls there this time too. one a tall redhead, slim and naturally stacked, my fav body type. i got two private dances from her and, well, man those tits. anyway.

i hooked up with the one girl i described below and it was exactly what i wanted. she was great.

there is still one there, a very petite, cutest look blonde with shorter hair and hard nipples that i never got around to.

where is angels? a guy at aurora's told me about it as well but when i search for it. it's not listed anywhere.www.clubangels.ru

it's located at sadovaya-chernegovskaya. 8. about a 5 minute walk from krasnaya varota metro.

it's on the ring at about 2:00 o'clock.

this is the place that used to be the hungry duck. and before that it was music town. at one point in its history it was a music hall which why is has about a 24 meter ceiling. it has the be the tallest stripper pole i have ever seen. come to think of it, someone should call the guiness book of world records people!

they have all kinds of trapeze equipment there.

it's a slightly more intimate atmosphere when compared to aurora but still great.

check it out.

Cucumber

08-20-13, 19:54

I second the points below. If you don't know Russian (well) you may struggle with the guidance on where to meet. If I am not mixing salons, I think for Charmel the meeting point is a Sberbank about 50 meters down the street from the unmarked entrance. You will stand there for anything from 2 minutes to (more likely) 20 minutes waiting for you have no idea whom, eyeing up all the passers by, and then suddenly, when you are about to give up, some young guy will walk up to you and ask a control question (I can't remember what it is, but perhaps something like your name (I. E. The one you have given on the phone to the dispatcher). If you can just get to this point the rest will work out. Somebody or other will speak some English (most likely quite well as this is a classy establishment) , and you will have a large selection of very beautiful girls to choose. It can be daunting and it can be difficult to get there, but but believe me it is worth it it. You may feel that it is dangerous, but I have done this type of thing very very many times and never had any problem whatsoever. The worst thing that can happen is that you don't get a BBBJ :). And there is a risk of that. Make sure to interview girls thoroughly. The amount of time and money people are spending in strip clubs is just unbelievable. In a salon you get straight to the real thing. It is also much better than chosing of the internet, because then the girl you get is not the same as the one one the picture. This way you have several real girls to choose from in the flesh, here and now and it is all real and efficient and immediate.

Hey, here are some answers:

1. The price is 5000 per hour now.

2. You can have sex whatever times you need in this one particular hour.

3. Anal costs 5000 more. It's very expensive in these salons. I would not suggest to spend so much. However, I took two girls at once several times. It's also 10. 000 but the experience is amazing.

4. I don't know if they speak any English but a lot of girls in there do speak a little bit.

5. There is no clear address. Usually, they give you some landmark nearby and then the security guy takes you from there to the salon.

Jake993

08-21-13, 07:22

I second the points below. If you don't know Russian (well) you may struggle with the guidance on where to meet. If I am not mixing salons, I think for Charmel the meeting point is a Sberbank about 50 meters down the street from the unmarked entrance. You will stand there for anything from 2 minutes to (more likely) 20 minutes waiting for you have no idea whom, eyeing up all the passers by, and then suddenly, when you are about to give up, some young guy will walk up to you and ask a control question (I can't remember what it is, but perhaps something like your name (I. E. The one you have given on the phone to the dispatcher). If you can just get to this point the rest will work out. Somebody or other will speak some English (most likely quite well as this is a classy establishment) , and you will have a large selection of very beautiful girls to choose. It can be daunting and it can be difficult to get there, but but believe me it is worth it it. You may feel that it is dangerous, but I have done this type of thing very very many times and never had any problem whatsoever. The worst thing that can happen is that you don't get a BBBJ :). And there is a risk of that. Make sure to interview girls thoroughly. The amount of time and money people are spending in strip clubs is just unbelievable. In a salon you get straight to the real thing. It is also much better than chosing of the internet, because then the girl you get is not the same as the one one the picture. This way you have several real girls to choose from in the flesh, here and now and it is all real and efficient and immediate.Cucumber,

Absolutely agree. Charm'El, Fantasys and Atel are all of the same quality. It's not dangerous. The first time it's a bit stressful because you are standing there on the sidewalk like an idiot not knowing whom to look for. Then some dude walks up and says your name and motions for you to follow. Hilarious. It's a high quality romp to be sure. But the next tier is a lot less streamlined and a lot more risky. Not risky in terms of personal safety but in terms of flakiness. IE. Not enough girls, or not enough good looking girls, bitchy girls. But again, the prices are a lot less so I suppose you get what you pay for. I know some Russian guys who ALWAYS go to the low end ones looking for the diamond in the rough. To each his own.

The three good ones almost always have a decent selection and the girls KNOW why they are there. And most of the time it's a good experience. What I have noticed these days is that more and more of the dispatchers are speaking English or they have SOMEONE there who speaks English and can give you instructions on how to get there. If there is no one who speaks English, they will just hang up. But don't worry. Call back a few hours later or on a different day and chances are someone can help you in English.

Stravinsky

08-22-13, 20:06

The three good ones almost always have a decent selection and the girls KNOW why they are there. And most of the time it's a good experience.Just to highlight what Jake said... the girls who work at Fantasys and Charmel are PRO's, this is their chosen career. They are not just shop girls looking to pick up a few extra rubles for the Prada handbag or a vacation to the Black Sea. They know why you're there, they know what you want and there really isn't much else to be said.

The hardest part is just getting in.

Kaboca

08-27-13, 23:07

Cucumber,

Absolutely agree. Charm'El, Fantasys and Atel are all of the same quality. It's not dangerous. The first time it's a bit stressful because you are standing there on the sidewalk like an idiot not knowing whom to look for. Then some dude walks up and says your name and motions for you to follow. Hilarious. It's a high quality romp to be sure. But the next tier is a lot less streamlined and a lot more risky. Not risky in terms of personal safety but in terms of flakiness. IE. Not enough girls, or not enough good looking girls, bitchy girls. But again, the prices are a lot less so I suppose you get what you pay for. I know some Russian guys who ALWAYS go to the low end ones looking for the diamond in the rough. To each his own.

The three good ones almost always have a decent selection and the girls KNOW why they are there. And most of the time it's a good experience. What I have noticed these days is that more and more of the dispatchers are speaking English or they have SOMEONE there who speaks English and can give you instructions on how to get there. If there is no one who speaks English, they will just hang up. But don't worry. Call back a few hours later or on a different day and chances are someone can help you in English.Hi Jake,

Atel? That's the first time I see this salon name. Do they have website?

Thanks,

K

Jake993

08-28-13, 07:14

Hi Jake,

Atel? That's the first time I see this salon name. Do they have website?

Thanks,

KHmmm. They used to have a web site at.

www.atell.ru

But that seems to have disappeared.

They were located on Pokrovka just up the street from where it meets Sadovaya ring.

Maybe they closed down. Bummer.

YummyPL

09-01-13, 02:27

In the weeks between when I left Moscow on 23 June and returned to Moscow on 23 July I continued to develop my relationship with Diana, Olga, and Lana. I made slight efforts to maintain my relationship with Marina and Svetlana. I also made positive contact with two new girls Olga (2) and Maria.

My original plan was to see Svetlana when I arrived on the evening of the 23rd, Marina on the evening of the 24th, Diana on the evening of the 25th, Lana on the evening of the 26th, and Olga on the evening of the 27th, while leaving the rest of the evenings and daytimes for impromptu meetings. I pretty much told all the girls that I would be arriving either the same day or the evening before I would see them except for Diana. Because she was in Samara, I told her my true dates.

The day before I arrive Diana told me she arrived in Moscow early. She was in my top 2 last time so I decided to tell Svetlana I could not see her but I would see her on the 25th.

Diana and I went out Tuesday evening. Nothing much new to report. We went to Chesterfield again like last time, drank lots of booze, got drunk, went on a walk, got to my apartment about 05:00, had great, passionate sex for about 2 hours when we both passed out. We did not wake up until 14:00. I was in a bit of a crisis mode as I was supposed to see Marina at 19:00 and I didn't know how to get rid of Diana. Obviously if I was waking up at 14:00, I didn't have work. I ended up texting Marina and telling her I could not make it because of work and that I would contact her again to arrange something.

Diana and I did not have sex that afternoon and that evening Diana and I went out for Sushi and at around 01:00 she said she had to go home (to her sister's house) because she had to get up at 07:00 the next morning to go to a doctor appointment. I was disappointed because I think I would have gotten first-time sex from Marina if I had kept that meeting. In any case, after Diana went home I went to Penthouse strip club. I have already given details of that. Iceberg asked why I chose Penthouse and the reason is that it is a block away from where I am staying and it was already 02:30 when I decided to go. I got home at around 06:00.

On Thursday afternoon when I woke up I contacted Svetlana and she said she couldn't meet because she wasn't feeling well. I contacted Marina who also said she couldn't meet. I contacted Olga #2 who gave me my third strike saying she could not meet. I contacted Diana and she came over again. We walked, drank at John Bull Pub, and went home around 01:00 and had great sexual activity for about 3 hours going to sleep at 04:00. Some time during the evening Diana had mentioned her friend who was also in town wanted to meet me. I said I would like to meet her and I was also interested in hosting a gathering at my place if she wanted to invite friends. I told her I had not hosted a party in years and I thought it would be fun. Diana is the least attractive of my girls but she is a reasonably pretty girl. Decent body (5'8', maybe 135 pounds) , fantastic kisser and super affectionate and excellent sex (although surprisingly not very tight for someone so young) , and only 19 years old. I like her a lot. We make out so heavily in Chesterfield that we have been warned by bouncers several times, and she initiates the kissing at least as often as I do. I told her I had to work at 10:00 on Friday and would be going down to Tula for the weekend with colleagues. I told her I would see her again on Monday. Another note, we just spent nearly 3 days together with 95% of our word communication happening on my IPAD translator. She speaks about as good English as I do Russian. We just get along very well.

So we got up at 08:00 after 4 hours of sleep, I walked her to the metro, and then I returned to my apartment, wrote Lana a text that I had arrived in Moscow, and went back to sleep until 12:00. I went shopping for food, and cleaned up my place in case Lana came home with me.

In the weeks between last time I was in Moscow and this time, Lana and I had been chatting a lot. Mostly on VK. Part of what came out of that chat is that she is not interested in sex for various reasons. I had considered dropping her but last time I was in Moscow there was something about her that really interested me. She is definitely the most attractive of my June girls with a sold 8 body and face for my taste. 22 years old, and speaks English very well. I wanted to see where I could get with her.

Well she shows up to the date in a white dress with a jacket. The dress is tight but conservative going down to her knees. Despite the conservative outfit, she looks HOT. The dress shows off her body, especially her ass. She is wearing black lingerie under the dress that you can very slightly see through it, and she is wearing thigh-high stockings that no other girl I have been with has done. She looked sexy as hell. At one point I told her she was beautiful and she responded 'I know. ' Christ, this was going to be a tough nut to crack. It is further complicated by the fact she drinks zero alcohol. In fact, Diana is really the only one of my girls that drinks.

We had a nice dinner and afterward we walked for a while. The real nice thing was that she didn't seem to have any problem with me touching her including walking around with my hand on her ass most of the time. The date we had last time I was in Moscow she only gave me a little kiss. I decided this was going to be my judging factor. If I tried to kiss her at this point, and she did not respond well, I was going to drop her after this date. I did try to kiss her and she kissed back but then started to laugh.

At this point I was confused, a bit irritated, and wanting to dump this girl. I started to walk her back up toward the metro and after walking maybe 100 meters she stopped me. I think she could tell I was irritated. She told me to kiss her again. I did and she responded very warmly. Her response was very nice. We kissed for a bit and she pulled back and suggested we continue our walk. We walked up New Arbat and then turned and walked down Old Arbat which at 01:00 in the morning was still quite busy. I stopped Lana again and kissed her deeply. Perhaps a bit too deeply because she pulled back from me. Argh. I just don't know. In any case, I figure I have been getting sex from Diana and I was sure I would get sex from Olga the next night, so why not continue playing this one. She has been relatively inexpensive and she was the most attractive of my girls so no harm in continuing. I liked walking with her next to me.

Fast forward a bit, after walking until around 02:00 she asked if I could take her home. What she wanted was me to get a cab and ride with her to her apartment. I agreed and hoped maybe she would invite me up. We got to her place and I got out with her. I asked if she was going to ask me up and she said no but that she hoped I would see her the next night. I hesitated, and she pulled me down to kiss her and she gave me a VERY passionate kiss. I told her I would see her the next night. Argh. Despite the challenge this girl was really doing it for me.

I get home around 03:30. I sleep until noon. I send an email to Olga that I would be arriving in the city around 19:00 but that I needed to meet colleagues when I arrived. I asked if she wanted to come over Sunday morning or if she wanted me to text her when I was done with my colleagues and she could come over to stay the night. She said to text her because she wanted to come over. I felt evil but it was her choice. I knew I was playing the odds because tonight was my third 'real' date with Lana and I wondered if three dates would be the magic number for her.

I get ready for my date and I meet Lana at around 18:00. It was raining and I took to a restaurant very close to the metro because I did not have an umbrella. We talked for a few hours and then went for a walk. We walked a few hours and kissed occasionally. Each time we kissed was warm and passionate. She is a really good kisser, not as good as Diana, but still very good. Around midnight I asked her if she wanted to go back to my place and she said 'I'm sorry, but not tonight. I must be home in the morning to meet with my friends. ' As I didn't expect her to go home with me so it was not a problem. Soon after that we were talking in a café and I excused myself to go to the bathroom. I texted Olga and told her I was sorry it was so late and I would be done soon and asked if she still wanted to come over. Her response was 'YES YES YES! ' I guess she still wanted to come over.

So again, I take Lana home in a taxi and returned to my apartment. In the taxi I texted Olga and told her she could come over. I arrive at my apartment and 15 minutes later Olga was there and looked very nice. She really does have a great body. When I met her outside she ran up to me and almost jumped into my arms. It was actually pretty funny and very sweet.

We went upstairs and I asked her if she wanted anything to eat or drink. She said she was tired and just wanted to go to bed. I agreed and we got ready for bed. Once in bed she started to kiss me. She tries real hard but she isn't a great kisser. Nowhere near the quality of Diana or Lana (Svetlana was not a great kisser either but she was otherwise very aggressive). She climbed on top of me and started kissing my chest and my mouth some more. I made a move to turn her on to her back and she stopped me and then worked her way down to give me a BJ. Again, not the greatest skill but not bad. After a while of that, I pulled her up and turned her on her back and started to climb on top of her. She was obviously very concerned about something so I asked her what was going on and in a very awkward way she informed me that her period had started earlier that day. It was pretty funny actually. I think she thought I would be mad. I assured her it was OK. She seemed very happy.

I told her not to worry, and I proceeded down her body and spread her legs. She had a string hanging out so I was good with that and I started to go down on her. I did that for maybe 5 minutes but she was obviously uncomfortable with it so I stopped and went up to kiss her again. She responded well. I asked her if she wanted to try to have sex. She agreed and went to the bathroom and took out her tampon and I grabbed a towel. I successfully got in her but after just a minute or so she said that it was uncomfortable so we stopped. We went and took a shower together, got back to the room, she started a BJ again and after doing that for 10 minutes or so she was obviously getting tired. She got off of me and turned over on her belly. She was inviting me to have anal sex with her.

I turned her over, continued to kiss her, and told her maybe tomorrow. It was 4 AM, I was tired, and I didn't want to start something that could end up being problematic so late in the evening. She gave me some nice kisses with a big smile.

Olga is very nice, VERY compliant, attractive with a very nice body, but she is not that exciting for me. She is pretty passive even though she is very willing. I would be interested in being a Dom with her but she just seems so nice. I am sure she would do it but she would be passive and I don't think she would enjoy it.

In any case, we woke up the next day (Sunday) around 13:00. We spent the day walking around Moscow and just hanging out. We had a couple of cheap meals and went back to my apartment around 22:00. Once back there we went to the bedroom for some fun. Lots of kissing, oral sex, and anal sex. It was a very slow start but once I got in she took it very well. I was very ready but I still took a while and when I came it felt like a fire hose (probably only a dribble but I like to dream). I told her I had to work in the morning so we went to bed around 02:00. We woke up at 07:00. I took her to the Metro at about 08:30. I went back to my apartment and texted Diana and we arranged to meet at 12:00. I slept for another hour or so and then got up to get ready.

I had a Cialis prescription with me but I rarely take them. Last time I was in Moscow I took a pill three times. Had sex 18 times in 8 days so they were helpful. I had not taken one yet but I had only had sex 5 times to completion so I was not sure I needed one. But I thought it was likely that I would be drinking heavily that night and they last 36 hours so I said why not and took one.

Between Friday morning and Monday Diana and I had written each other emails and texts to arrange things. I told her I was in Tula so she would not push to see me. I expressed a desire to have a party but we decided we would just meet up with her friend and go to a water park and then go to a club in the evening. It sounded good to me.

Diana has been clear to me that she isn't looking for a serious relationship where Olga and Lana clearly do want a serious relationship. Diana has encouraged me to have plenty of sex before I arrive because she doesn't want to frustrate me when I am with her. This is crazy because she is a sexual dynamo, but it is fun that she seems to have no issue with me being with other girls. I suspect she has several boyfriends, too. In any case, when we were making arrangements for the day, she told me her friend was very small, very thin, and very cute. I responded that it was cool and I was looking forward to meeting her and even made some suggestive comments but I kept it pretty low key. But secretly I was really looking forward to meeting her.

I met Diana at the metro near the water park and Katia wasn't with her. I was disappointed but I didn't ask where she was. Diana asked if we could get something to eat. I said yes and we went to a KFC (this is what she wanted). After finishing our meal, I asked if we should go to the water park and she said Katia would meet them in another 20 minutes and then we would go. I was happy.

When I saw Katia, I was more happy. Diana was exactly right. Tiny, thin, and VERY cute. Unfortunately it was rainy and sort of cold so she was in a sweatshirt and jeans. She was also carrying a small backpack. We went to the water park and going in Katia pulled out money to pay (Diana assumed I would pay) and I told her I would take care of it. Katia protested a little but Diana assured her it was OK. We go to our separate locker rooms and then a little later emerged on the other side.

Diana looked great in her bikini. Again, she is not super thin but she has a nice body. Katia on the other hand almost made my jaw drop to the floor. She had a skimpy little bikini on and her body was absolutely fucking fantastic. She is about 5'2' and 95 pounds (157 cm and maybe 43 kilos) , Not a flaw on her body, perfect firmness, slightest hint of abdominal muscle definition, firm everywhere but not hard, great puffy nipples (as I will find out later). Her bikini was not a thong bikini but otherwise it did not leave much to the imagination. She looked smoking hot.

I don't want to go into all the details but we were at the water park about 5 hours and both girls were flirting with me mercilessly. We were in the pool, on the water slides, and in the Jacuzzi. If any of you have ever seen the ED commercials, they say consult a physician if you have an erection that lasts more than 4 hours. I swear my erection lasted the entire time we were at the water park. I know that it was partially because of the Cialis, but it just wouldn't go away. There were probably 10 girls in the 18-25 age category at the park and I think I was with the #3 and #1 girl as far as looks and certainly as far as playfulness. I think I even had some Moscovite guys envious. I was in heaven.

After the water park we got dressed in what we had on when we met. We were going to eat at a café but it was busy so I asked if they wanted to go to Chesterfields early and eat there. They agreed. We head toward my neighborhood and arrive at Smolenskaya metro. I assumed we were going right over to the Restaurant but they said they wanted to go over to my apartment to change clothes. Ok by me.

When we got back to the apartment Katia went to the bathroom and Diana and I went to the bedroom. Every other night I had been with Diana she had worn jeans except one time when she wore a long dress. When we got to the room, she pulled out a skimpy little dress from her bag, and stripped. She and I fooled around but she made it pretty clear we were just changing and she insisted I get dressed. I put on my jeans, a button down shirt, and Boss jacket. I do French cuffs, a pocket square, and I put on some fun socks and nice shoes. I was not worried about getting in the club on a Monday night but still wanted to dress well. Once I was done I attacked Diana and she responded very well. She looked hot in a tight little black dress and heals. We are laying on the bed with me on top of her when Katia walks in and turns around and walks out at which point Diana hits me on the head and we get up off the bed.

Diana calls Katia into the room and she enters. OMG, she looked almost as hot in a skimpy little red dress as she did in her bikini. It was very short and skin tight. Neither Diana nor Katia wore hosiery. When I was on top of Diana I was pressed against her thong covered pussy. I knew that Katia had to also be wearing almost nothing under her dress because she definitely had no panty lines and her nipples were clearly visible through the material.

We walk to Chesterfields. It is maybe 2 blocks away and I am walking with two very hot girls. I was very happy. When we arrive at the restaurant we found out that there was a live band playing that night and that they were running a special for 3 people where it was 2400 Rubles for all the alcohol you could drink in the bar area. I paid the cover and we went to the bar. There was a corner booth but it was connected to other tables. Katia got on the inside and then Diana and I sat on the outside. We talked mostly through the Ipad translator. It was too loud to really talk even if we spoke each other's language well.

I won't give full details of the evening at the restaurant but I will give you some highlights.

The bartenders were very good about drinks. They took the 'all you can drink' thing seriously and the start of the night the waitress had had put new drinks on our table before we were done with the ones we already had. We had 3 cocktails each within the first hour or so.

We ordered food and Katia hesitated but I told her to order absolutely anything she wanted and that it was no problem at all. She ordered a salad with shrimp. Probably $20 but I certainly did not care. That was nothing compared to what I was getting from her.

We ordered a Hookah and both of them enjoyed that.

After the first hour Diana said something to Katia and then started to get out of the booth we were in by climbing on my lap and scooting across me with her ass on my crotch between me and the table. And then Katia did the same thing. OMG. They could have easily asked me to get up but didn't. Katia could have scooted the other direction on the table and gone around the other side, but she didn't. This probably happened about 4-5 times through the night. At one point I grabbed a good handful of Katia's basically bare ass and she elbowed me in the ribs. I laughed. After about 2 hours (maybe 22:00 but I don't know, I was drunk) when they got up to get more drinks (waitress no longer serving us) , I scooted over so I would be in the middle when they returned. Katia still sat on the inside so now she was the only one scooting across my lap. She obviously knew the effect this attention was having. I don't have a really big dick by any means but it is far from small and she had pressed her ass against it well over a dozen times that day.

When Diana was up getting more drinks for us (we probably had 5-6 half drank cocktails on our table already) I started giving Katia a back rub with one hand. She acted a little irritated and pointed toward Diana and said 'Diana. ' I grabbed the Ipad and wrote 'Katia, I flirt with you. You are fun and sexy. But I am here with Diana and I only want Diana. ' I was drunk but I remember the message clearly. She gave me a big smile and seemed satisfied and from that point on she was even more affectionate and she was more open to my overt flirting. Of course it could be that this 95 pound girl had about 10 drinks inside her at this point, but who knows.

At one point in the night, probably a little after 11, I was sitting between Diana and Katia. Each were leaning against me on their respective sides. Both had their hands on me and both had their heads on my shoulders. I was writing some stuff on my Ipad about the music that the band was playing (they played 'Knocking on Heaven's Door') and there was a pause in the music. Diana pulled my head to her and gave me a wonderful kiss, the first real sensual one at the club that night, and about that time the band started playing 'Back in the USSR' (the Beatles song).

I'm back in the USSR.

You don't know how lucky you are boy.

Back in the USSR. (Yeah)

Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case.

Honey disconnect the phone.

I'm back in the USSR.

You don't know how lucky you are boy.

Back in the USSR.

I leaned back in the chair and looked around the room I was in, there were beautiful Russian girls everywhere and two of the best looking ones were snuggling up against me. I had a huge smile on my face, and I know both girls noticed it.

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out.

They leave the West behind.

And Moscow girls make me sing and shout.

That Georgia's always on my mind.

As I mentioned in a previous post, I was transformed in a way. Clearly I was drunk, but not like the girls. I am a solid 200 pounds, and at that moment my mind felt crystal clear. I could see, feel, taste, smell, and hear the world clearly. It was surreal in a way I have never experienced previously in my life. I could not imagine being happier than I was at that moment.

Oh, show me around your snow-peaked mountains way down south.

Take me to your daddy's farm.

Let me hear your balalaika's ringing out.

Come and keep your comrade warm.

I'm back in the USSR.

Hey you don't know how lucky you are boys.

Back in theUSSR.

Katia started moving her body dancing in place to the music. Diana was hugging me tight. My hands roamed freely on their bodies without protest.

Oh let me tell you, honey.

Hey, I'm back!

I'm back in the USSR.

Yes, I'm free!

Yeah, back in the USSR.

At the end of the song Katia gave me a big, warm (but short) kiss and then Diana pulled me to her and gave me another passionate kiss that lasted for several minutes. At the end of the kiss I was pulled slightly back to reality when the hookah person came by to recharge the hookah. I didn't recapture that feeling for the rest of the night but am still thinking of it every day.

At around 01:00 things changed dramatically. Katia got a call from her mother (she is visiting her mother in Moscow for the summer) and her mother wanted her to come home. Apparently she was very worried about her and could tell she was drunk. Katia was almost crying when she was on the phone. She was obviously very upset. She didn't want to leave but she also didn't want her mother upset. I told her I would get her a cab. She talked with Diana for a few minutes and then asked me to take her back to the apartment and get a cab and Diana would stay at the club to hold our table. I didn't really want Diana to stay but they insisted.

So Katia and I left Chesterfields and walked back to my apartment. The whole time Katia was pressed tightly against me and I had my arm around her (it was cold, probably 16 degrees). I gave her my jacket to wear. She seemed very happy with that. When we got back to my apartment she grabbed her things and stripped down completely naked in front of me except for her thong—what a divine sight. I kept my distance and I think I made the right choice doing so. She quickly got back dressed in her jeans and sweatshirt and we were out the door again. A few moments later I had her in a cab and she was on her way home and I returned to the club. I was gone from Chesterfields maybe 20-30 minutes.

I met Diana back at our table. We didn't drink much more but we danced and kissed and had fun. We had a pretty good time for the rest of the night and sex was good when we got back to the apartment at around 04:00. I was a little unhappy that Katia had to leave and I was a bit unhappy that this was the last night that I expected to see Diana so my mood declined. I should have just basked in the glory of what I had but sometimes one cannot control how their mood will change especially after a lot of alcohol.

The next day we woke up at 10. Diana was returning home that day and I was leaving the next. During breakfast Diana tells me that Katia likes me. Diana has made it clear that she is only interested in me for fun. This is in clear contrast to all the others who are obviously interested in a 'serious' relationship even though I have not told any of them that is my intention. I laughed it off with Diana and downplayed my interest in Katia. But I was starting to see this as my first 'referral. ' I could only dream. I put Diana in a taxi around 12:00.

I go back to my apartment and contact Lana and asked her about seeing me that night. She says she is available at 18:00. I have no expectation that I will spend the night with Lana so I contact Olga and tell her I am going out with colleagues again that night and asked her if she wanted to come over afterward and we could spend the day together on Wednesday and she could accompany me to the airport. I didn't really expect much quality action from Olga because of her period but it would be nice to sleep next to her whatever we did. I figured I could be a real bastard and blow her off if Lana did go home with me.

I saw Lana again. She asked me to come up to her neighborhood this time. Again she looked hot and was dressed very nicely. She was definitely dressed to impress. We had a nice dinner and good conversation and some very nice kissing. We walked back to her place and I asked if she was going to invite me up. She knew I was leaving the next day. She said she wanted to but her roommate was home and would absolutely freak out if she did. She gave me an incredible good night kiss. She called a taxi for me and we kissed until it arrived.

It was 02:00 and I called Olga and asked if she still wanted to see me. I had woken her up and she said yes. I told her I was in a cab headed home and asked if she wanted me to stop at her place to pick her up. She said yes. I gave the taxi driver the address to go to.

After we started moving, I was thinking to myself that I am in a taxi where the driver just drove up on me deeply kissing one girl and we were about to go pick up another girl. This coupled with the fact that I do not know much Russian concerned me. Would he say anything to Olga?

In any case, we arrive at Olga's apartment. I text her I am there. She comes down moments later with some plastic bags. She had cooked dinner for me thinking I would see her early enough to have dinner. It was nearly 03:00 in the morning. She only seemed happy to see me. No negativity at all.

We arrive at my apartment and either the driver didn't say anything to her or Olga didn't care. I get to the external door and discovered my electronic door lock FOB had fallen off my keys. We were locked out. We called the apartment owner and she said no one could come until morning but we could try to buzz other apartments. I didn't really want to do that so I looked to see if I could get to any windows I left open in my apartment. My apartment was only on the second floor but the windows were not accessible (which is probably good) but I did see a window in a stairwell that was open on around the third floor I thought I could get to. So I took off my shoes and started to climb. I made it up quite easily. Olga was clapping with a huge smile on her face and when I came down to open the door she jumped into my arms and called me her hero. Nice.)

The rest of our time together was uneventful. About 10:00 she woke me up with a blowjob. She did that a little while and turned on her belly (I assume inviting anal again) but I just rubbed my dick between her ass cheeks and then jerked off and blew my load between her cheeks. Nice site. She has a great, firm ass.

She prepared the food she brought as I packed my stuff. We ate the food and it was quite good. We checked out of my apartment and took a taxi to the train station. I put my luggage in storage and then we spent the afternoon at the Tretyakov gallery before going to the airport for my 21:35 flight. Thus ending my second trip to Moscow.

Epilogue:

Since I have returned Lana and I have been in daily contact mostly through Skype. While we have not been overtly sexual, it is clear she wants to have sex with me the next time we are together. She asked if I wanted her to fly down to see me in Stuttgart and I suggested we meet in Prague instead. We are scheduled to be together for 5 nights in Prague 3-8 September.

I was chatting with Diana after the trip and maybe 3 days after I got home Diana sends me a message that says 'Katia says 'HELLO! '. She is interested in you. ' I expressed my doubts to Diana but I sent Katia a note and we have been in daily contact since then. She wants me to visit her in Samara in October for a week or more. I will do everything in my power to make this happen. I have not said anything to Diana and I don't know if Katia has. As I was telling Jake and YellowPaul, if I can get Katia as a "freebie", it would be the crowning sexual achievement of my life-and I am not really even trying. To me she is a solid 9. She has a very attractive face—maybe a 7+, and she pretty much has a perfect 10 body for my taste. I have seen it up close and personal for many hours and I cannot think of a single thing I would change about it. Plus she is fun, flirty, intelligent, speaks OK English and is 19 years old. At my ripe old age of 45, I cannot imagine getting better.

I have been trying to decide what to do next. I will be in Prague for less than a week and it seems like a waste to fly over to Europe for only 6 days. I should move back again. In any case, my five possibilities are to stay in Prague for a few extra days and see what I can dig up there, go to Stuttgart and see my harem at FKK Sakura, join YellowPaul in Kiev for a few days, drive up to Krakow for a few days to find some Polish pussy, or fly to Moscow and see Olga for a few days.

I am tending toward Kiev or Moscow. Olga says her flat-mate will be out of town and I could stay with her. That would mean that the trip would be very inexpensive. I would use points for the flight, and with a free place to stay I think I could have 4 nights with Olga for less than $400 total. She also seems to be warming up to the idea of more erotic photos. That would be a treat. She also works a lot so I would have my daytimes free to explore other fruits in Moscow.

That's it for now...

JohnnyVegas

09-01-13, 17:01

A local Russian friend suggested I try this club. R 1, 000 to enter. Pretty small overall with lots of couches. 20 girls. About 6. 8 as far as looks. They are really all over you. Wanting you to pick them. They have upstairs rooms for full sex and small rooms downstairs for BJs, etc. Girls start asking for R 10, 000 but will go down to R 7, 000 for full sex. BJ about R 4, 000. One girl dances in the center with a pole. But NOT nude.

I spoke to several and then decided on one I saw dancing who I made a lot of eye contact with. She came right over when she was done and had a SMOKIN' HOT body. Best ass I've ever seen. Must be from all her dancing. Pretty girl from Kazakhstan. Ever so slight Asian look to her. But what a BODY! Nice tight pussy too!

Iceberg27

09-01-13, 19:11

in the weeks between when i left moscow on 23 june and returned to moscow on 23 july i continued to develop my relationship with diana, olga, and lana. i made slight efforts to maintain my relationship with marina and svetlana. i also made positive contact with two new girls olga (2) and maria.

my original plan was to see svetlana when i arrived on the evening of the 23rd, marina on the evening of the 24th, diana on the evening of the 25th, lana on the evening of the 26th, and olga on the evening of the 27th, while leaving the rest of the evenings and daytimes for impromptu meetings. i pretty much told all the girls that i would be arriving either the same day or the evening before i would see them except for diana. because she was in samara, i told her my true dates.

the day before i arrive diana told me she arrived in moscow early. she was in my top 2 last time so i decided to tell svetlana i could not see her but i would see her on the 25th.yummy. great post. great adventure. i am speechless. congratulations for your success and thanks also for sharing it such detailed. i read the whole report. so your experiences is a clear evidence that someone can only speak english still have seriosu chance to have fun in ee. i will use the ispeak translator.

note: i understand your feeling about the happiest moment of my life thing. i had experienced it sometimes before. impressive.

regards.

WanderTheWorld

09-02-13, 10:11

YummyPL.

Our reports fail miserably in comparison to yours. Thank you. However I don't get how you manage to find those girls. Is it just mambaru?

Iceberg27.

I tried the translator thing a bit with one of the WG's, it is manageable but I think it is only feasible to when the girl is willing.

Iceberg27

09-02-13, 11:15

YummyPL

09-02-13, 13:54

However I don't get how you manage to find those girls. Is it just mambaru?WtW, I explain that in my June report. I knew Olga, Lana, and Diana from my previous trip. Not Mamba but a different paid dating site. It took literally a couple hundred hours of pre-arrival work to have my prospects lined up.

And if you have an internet connection. I also downloaded iphone version.I use my Ipad mini with a sim card so I have internet everywhere in Moscow.

Stravinsky

09-05-13, 18:35

I leaned back in the chair and looked around the room I was in, there were beautiful Russian girls everywhere and two of the best looking ones were snuggling up against me. I had a huge smile on my face, and I know both girls noticed it.I could see, feel, taste, smell, and hear the world clearly. It was surreal in a way I have never experienced previously in my life. I could not imagine being happier than I was at that moment.Congratulations, Grasshopper, sounds like, for just a brief moment, you entered a parallel universe.

As always, thanks for the excellent, detailed report.

I can't help but be curious... you are in Moscow for only a few days and are on a very tight schedule, juggling all your dyevushki, it seems Olga is ready and willing at a moments notice, but how do the rest react when you call (or text) at the last minute and tell them that you have to change your plans because of work or colleagues? Do you think they honestly believe you? Do they just go along with the lie because it's expected, or more convenient? Do you get any pushback from them?

Still don't understand your fascination with Diana.

Hope you're having fun in Prague, and good luck with Katya.

BTW - I don't think we ever got a picture of your socks... :)

JohnTodd

09-06-13, 04:43

Can anyone recommend a transportation service in Moscow. I used www.gotoru.com Many times, but have a difficult time communicating and they only take Visa, American Express is my prefered card.

Thanks

Jake993

09-07-13, 16:36

Can anyone recommend a transportation service in Moscow. I used.

www.gotoru.com

Many times, but have a difficult time communicating and they only take Visa, American Express is my prefered card.

ThanksHttp://www.taxi-in-moscow.com/

Very reputable and very good. English speaking dispatchers. Unfortunately they do not take Amex.

JohnTodd

09-09-13, 01:37

Http://www.taxi-in-moscow.com/

Very reputable and very good. English speaking dispatchers. Unfortunately they do not take Amex.Jake, thanks. Note your mailbox is full.

JohnTodd

09-09-13, 01:45

YummyPL

09-09-13, 07:19

I can't help but be curious. You are in Moscow for only a few days and are on a very tight schedule, juggling all your dyevushki, it seems Olga is ready and willing at a moments notice, but how do the rest react when you call (or text) at the last minute and tell them that you have to change your plans because of work or colleagues? Do you think they honestly believe you? Do they just go along with the lie because it's expected, or more convenient? Do you get any pushback from them?

Still don't understand your fascination with Diana.

BTW. I don't think we ever got a picture of your socks. .Well, I don't really know the answer to your question. I have basically ended it with Marina and Svetlana. Svetlana still wanted to see me but I was just not that interested even though she was very attractive and very sexual. I just basically stopped contacting Marina. As I was telling YellowPaul, youth is the single most important thing for me. I would rather have a 19 year old with 7 level looks than a 30 year old 8+. As long as she is fun, youth turns me on far more than beauty.

Do you mean my fascination with Lana? If you do mean Diana, the answer is what I just said. She is very young and very fun. While not the best looking of my bunch, she is really fantastic in many ways.

I'm sorry about the socks picture. I am failing in my responsibilities. I will get on that ASAP.

Jake993

09-09-13, 08:10

Jake, thanks. Note your mailbox is full.Sorry dude. It has been emptied.

Jake993

09-09-13, 08:24

Does anyone have any suggestions for places of activity close to the Sheraton Hotel?

I stayed there last year went to Cayotee Ugly, but struck out.

I once forun an escort service for about $100 that was good, but lost the name.

ThanksIf you are looking for a salon, Charm'El is about 30 minutes on foot from the Sheraton.

There are also SCADS of massage places about 5 minutes walk towards Belorusskaya station. Sex is optional.

Here's one http://www.edem-club.ru/english

I am not sure how it is now, but the Sheraton used to have their own "approved" girls working the lobby.

Which made it VERY difficult for non-approved girls (escorts) to come to your room.

Just a heads up.

JohnTodd

09-10-13, 02:05

If you are looking for a salon, Charm'El is about 30 minutes on foot from the Sheraton.

There are also SCADS of massage places about 5 minutes walk towards Belorusskaya station. Sex is optional.

Here's one.

http://www.edem-club.ru/english

I am not sure how it is now, but the Sheraton used to have their own "approved" girls working the lobby.

Which made it VERY difficult for non-approved girls (escorts) to come to your room.

Just a heads up.Jake thanks for the help. Is there a map that shows the massage places close to the Sheraton?

Last time I stayed at the Sheraton was about 2 years ago, I did not see any talent in the lobby bar. I did call a service, paid about $100, was a decent session, unfortunately I lost the name of the place.

In the past two years I stayed at the Capitol Hotel, it was dead, the Hilton, again dead, and a few months ago at the Renossance, I went to the Loft, but again struck out.

I did walk to a few places when I stayed at the Sheraton, but I lost the active map I had.

JohnTodd

09-10-13, 02:16

Does anyone know if there is a current map of Moscow that shows interesting places?

I used to use : http://bitchmaps.com/kmz/sp.kmz

The map no longer works, it used to show all the variuos interesting establishments.

Thanks

The Tanuki

09-11-13, 13:04

Can anyone recommend a transportation service in Moscow. I used.

www.gotoru.com

Many times, but have a difficult time communicating and they only take Visa, American Express is my prefered card.

ThanksIf you don't mind paying cash, do it local style. Stand out in the street and someone will pull over and let you in. The fun part is trying to explain where you want to go and hope like hell the driver goes there. Makes for a much more entertaining ride at about half the rate of a taxi and the guys usually have some good tunes in their personal cars.

TT

Iceberg27

09-11-13, 19:35

If you don't mind paying cash, do it local style. Stand out in the street and someone will pull over and let you in. The fun part is trying to explain where you want to go and hope like hell the driver goes there. Makes for a much more entertaining ride at about half the rate of a taxi and the guys usually have some good tunes in their personal cars. .

TTNoone knows any street in Moscow. 99% of the drivers including locals are using navigators to find even very central streets. Something make me very surprised and find it strange. Very strange. Noone knows the city.

JohnTodd

09-11-13, 21:06

I will be staying at the Sheraton Airport Location, any suggestions in that area?

Thanks for the help.

Jake993

09-13-13, 09:17

I will be staying at the Sheraton Airport Location, any suggestions in that area?

Thanks for the help.Good luck! I think you will have a hard time getting any action I am afraid. When you check in to the hotel, get a copy of Moscow times. Perhaps one of the escort services will send a girl out. Apart from that, you might have a chat with the door man at the hotel. Sorry dude, it's not going to be easy.

Stravinsky

09-13-13, 18:45

Noone knows any street in Moscow. 99% of the drivers including locals are using navigators to find even very central streets. Something make me very surprised and find it strange. Very strange. Noone knows the city.Moscow is an immense metropolis, that is becoming more immense every day. Also, in Moscow, as in New York, the majority of the taxists are not native Muscovites, so it's not surprising that a GPS is necessary to get around.

Plus, there is another advantage to a GPS in Moscow: finding an alternate route, which is what you constantly have to do in Moscow when you encounter the dreaded "probka" (traffic jam).

Liana

09-17-13, 15:43

Blaze1306

09-17-13, 16:31

Kuvvetli

09-17-13, 17:52

I will be in Moscow on 22nd of September.

Can anyone helpme finding contacts of young Russian girls please?

Jake993

09-17-13, 18:56

I will be in Moscow on 22nd of September. Can anyone helpme finding contacts of young Russian girls please?Come on man. Don't be so lazy. There is TONS of good information here. RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). Hint - sort on my posts alone and you will find enough good information to last you all week. Expand the search and you have enough info to keep you happy for a year. But please don't come in here with 2 posts and expect us to hand it to you on a silver platter.

Iceberg27

09-17-13, 22:44

Moscow is an immense metropolis, that is becoming more immense every day. Also, in Moscow, as in New York, the majority of the taxists are not native Muscovites, so it's not surprising that a GPS is necessary to get around.

Plus, there is another advantage to a GPS in Moscow: finding an alternate route, which is what you constantly have to do in Moscow when you encounter the dreaded "probka" (traffic jam).Traffic jam is ok Stravinski. I was already thinking where to go again.
Rio or Moscow or New York?
What do you think?

I only speak english. I am much more after freebies.

Stravinsky

09-17-13, 23:20

Come on man. Don't be so lazy. There is TONS of good information here. RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). Hint - sort on my posts alone and you will find enough good information to last you all week. Expand the search and you have enough info to keep you happy for a year. But please don't come in here with 2 posts and expect us to hand it to you on a silver platter.Thanks Jake, my sentiments exactly. But I'm glad to let you be the "bad cop" now and then. ;)

Stravinsky

09-17-13, 23:24

Traffic jam is ok Stravinski. I was already thinking where to go again.
Rio or Moscow or New York?
What do you think?

I only speak english. I am much more after freebies.Well, if you only speak-a dee eenglish, then your choices are very limited.

Actually, they are... none.

Why on Earth would you want to go to New York? It is a sexual wasteland. It wasn't bad in the 70's and 80's, but Giuliani put and end to that, long time ago.

Rio could be interesting, but there are many places in SA. Some place like Buenos Aires could be a good consolation prize, if you can't make it to Moscow.

Hables Espanol senor? (I know, I know, but I don't have a Spanish keyboard)

YummyPL

09-18-13, 00:57

Why on Earth would you want to go to New York? It is a sexual wasteland. It wasn't bad in the 70's and 80's, but Giuliani put and end to that, long time ago.I agree with Strav. New York is horrible for finding young, attractive freebies for old fucks unless you are throwing around lots of cash. No point at all.

If you don't mind darker girls then the Dominican Republic is pretty amazing. Not really freebies but it is easy to find girls that will give you excellent GFE service (I mean GREAT service-whatever you like with a great attitude) for well less than $100 USD for a whole night. Just read this forum and stay away from the resorts. Also, I doubt they are racist against Turks and only English is no problem. I think it is by far the best sex-tourism destination in the Western Hemisphere.

Of course if you want stunningly beautiful white girls, stick to Eastern Europe.

Tatoosun

09-19-13, 15:02

Jake993

09-19-13, 21:12

Hi friends,

A quick tip about this club. I was in the one located in Korston Hotel almost one year ago but honestly I didn't like it too much, small club and poor assortment. The one and the city center is totally different or not?

Thank you.

ByeAurora 911, Penthouse, The Loft and Angels are all MUCH bigger than Korston event though they are owned by the same group and have a similar format.

JohnTodd

09-21-13, 00:46

In case anyone stays at the new Sheraton Airport Hotel, there is absolutely no action there, I think there is more activity at the morgue than the Sheraton.

The hotel rooms are very nice, but the service is awful, the place is dead, there is absolutely nothing happening in the area surrounding the hotel.

I called an old contact, she wanted an extra 400 rub added to her fee for taxi.

Kuvvetli

09-21-13, 03:58

I will be in Moscow and stay in Korston Hotel on 22nd of September. I am looking for a girl to stay for the night. Can anyone help me on this please?

Tatoosun

09-22-13, 12:21

You'll finde several girls in the lobby.

I will be in Moscow and stay in Korston Hotel on 22nd of September. I am looking for a girl to stay for the night. Can anyone help me on this please?

Sailorman2010

09-25-13, 20:53

Hi gang, I'll be staying at the above mentioned hotel and I'd love to find an incall escort or massage parlour close by. Any intel? Normally this is easy but I'm having little luck with Moscow!

Raptor 09

09-26-13, 09:51

I have been using Massage salons a few times in the past.

Unfortunately I have not been able to receive full service (I. E. Sex) so far. I do not speak Russian well, so I am asking for your advice when to adress this?

Already with Mama (probably not) , or better directly with the girl in the room?

And how much would be a fair price? Massage is typically RUB 1900 / hour.

I asume that I would pay the girl directly.

Thanks.

Raptor

Jake993

09-26-13, 12:40

Hi gang, I'll be staying at the above mentioned hotel and I'd love to find an incall escort or massage parlour close by. Any intel? Normally this is easy but I'm having little luck with Moscow!There's a salon within 10 minutes walk from the Hilton.

http://www.elit.tv/

Other than that, get a copy of the Moscow Times and look in the classified section.

Plenty of call in.

Stravinsky

09-26-13, 17:55

I have been using Massage salons a few times in the past. Unfortunately I have not been able to receive full service (I. E. Sex) so far.Try Erotic Massage, www.erotic-massage.ru It's the only massage in Moscow that provides "imtime service". Not sure if they can communicate in English, but it's worth a try.

Iceberg27

09-27-13, 13:11

I agree with Strav. New York is horrible for finding young, attractive freebies for old fucks unless you are throwing around lots of cash. No point at all.

If you don't mind darker girls then the Dominican Republic is pretty amazing. Not really freebies but it is easy to find girls that will give you excellent GFE service (I mean GREAT service-whatever you like with a great attitude) for well less than $100 USD for a whole night. Just read this forum and stay away from the resorts. Also, I doubt they are racist against Turks and only English is no problem. I think it is by far the best sex-tourism destination in the Western Hemisphere.

Of course if you want stunningly beautiful white girls, stick to Eastern Europe.Strav and Yummy first of all thanks for your valuable contributions.

I am sure many people are benefiting from this information. I just want to share my opinions also with the same purpose. My last decision would possibly be for Rio but Yummy is telling that Dominique Rep. Is better. I must admit that I am much more into European look but I also like for example Romanians. I mean I don't have a problem with brunettes but not so much into black women. Maybe I should stick to Moscow but I don't have time to get prepared and unfortunately I can't make a miracle in my Russian skills in a month. Moreover it's not easy to spend time in Moscow if you don't have a gf. I really get bored there in day time while I am trying to reserve after some crazy fuck nights. You know what I mean. But Rio is also I guess is an enjoyable place to spend time and it's much more possible to meet with girls there just in the stree. I know most of them don't speak english. But at least spanish is closer to English more than Russian. Also I am so much into for Buones Aires. (Why you think moderator of this forum live in there?) Anyway. My compass showing SA. I hope it's the right decision.

Sailorman2010

09-27-13, 17:49

Thanks Jake! I'll give it a whirl.

There's a salon within 10 minutes walk from the Hilton.

http://www.elit.tv/

Other than that, get a copy of the Moscow Times and look in the classified section.

Plenty of call in.

Stravinsky

09-27-13, 18:36

but Yummy is telling that Dominique Rep. is better.The world is full of places where men can meet women for sex. Each place has advantages and disadvantages over others. I don't think Yummy meant to say that the Republica Dominicana is the best place to be, only that it may have some advantages for you. But of course, it's a long way from 'stambul.

If you want to know more, there is a forum for the Dom. Rep. on ISG. You might want to focus on Puerto Plata (Yummy's recommendation got me to thinking as well).

Maybe I should stick to Moscow but I don't have time to get prepared and unfortunately I can't make a miracle in my Russian skills in a month. Moreover it's not easy to spend time in Moscow if you don't have a gf. I really get bored there in day time while I am trying to reserve after some crazy fuck nights.Everyone is different and we all look for different things. For myself, I find Moscow to be a fascinating city. There is a thousand years of history and culture, so I am never bored there, because there is so much to do, even apart from the sex. But then, it makes a big difference if you speak the lingo and can get around and communicate with people.

I must admit that I am much more into European look I mean I don't have a problem with brunettes but not so much into black women.

But Rio is also I guess is an enjoyable place to spend time and it's much more possible to meet with girls there just in the street. I know most of them don't speak english. But at least spanish is closer to English more than Russian. Also I am so much into for Buones Aires. (Why you think moderator of this forum live in there?) Anyway. My compass showing SA. I hope it's the right decision.I think you might like Buenos Aires more than Rio. The gene pool in BA is very different. The Spanish were kind enough to kill off all the natives when they arrived, so the population in BA is almost exclusively European: mainly Hispanic, but also German, Italian, Hungarian, etc. Buenos Aires is often referred to as the "Paris of South America".

You might even find some Turks there.

Also remember, the language of Brazil is Portuguese, not Spanish. The language of Argentina is Spanish.

Just don't go to the USA, it's the worst. Why do think all the guys from the USA go somewhere else looking for women?

Iceberg27

09-28-13, 01:02

The world is full of places where men can meet women for sex. Each place has advantages and disadvantages over others. I don't think Yummy meant to say that the Republica Dominicana is the best place to be, only that it may have some advantages for you. But of course, it's a long way from 'stambul.

Also remember, the language of Brazil is Portuguese, not Spanish. The language of Argentina is Spanish.

Just don't go to the USA, it's the worst. Why do think all the guys from the USA go somewhere else looking for women?Dear Strav.

Yes you are right SA is about 13 hours flight from here. (if you buy a direct flight) Moscow is just 3 hours and no visa is required for Turks. If it's the opposite I would go to SA a thousand times but anyway. I am just not looking the most sex for the least money. I am looking for some adventure and want to see new places. I give up to USA after your comments. It's still will be possible to get there when you get married with your wife and you wouldn't loose so much things. So my choices are Rio or Buones Aires and my heart says take a 12 days off from work go for both because if I will take a 13 hours flight I must at least stay 10 days and this is too much for just one city. I don't find Sao Paolo worth to visit. So why not take the ticket from Rio to BA and enjoy both. I am searching for the costs and I am trying to estimate how much money should I put my pocket for such an adventure. By the way I don't need visa for both Argentina and Brasil also. From Rio to BA is about 3, 5 hours flight. I am working on my trip plan. Brasil forum is very informative and easy to benefit but I just couldn't my way in Argentina forum. Anyway. Let's see. I have heard lots of things about Copacabana in Rio. BA is also seaside but I don't know does it have nice beaches and enjoyable places. I started to get excited from now. Let's see man let's see.

Stravinsky

09-28-13, 02:10

Brasil forum is very informative and easy to benefit but I just couldn't my way in Argentina forum.Good idea, split your time between Rio and BA and enjoy the best of both worlds.

Everything you always wanted to know about BA: www.argentinaprivate.com

I believe your ISG ID and password should get you in.

YummyPL

09-28-13, 10:03

Yummy is telling that Dominique Rep. Is better.I am meaning from a purely sex tourism perspective. DR has nice beaches, but otherwise is a rather boring other than the girls. Rio is a far more interesting city. 10 years ago I would have told you to go to Rio. But the fact is, Rio is getting to be like Moscow. There is plenty of sex available, but the place is too damn expensive. Brazil has a relatively strong economy and currency even compared to many European countries. Unemployment is low. It is simply not easy to pick up freebies anymore. P4P is still easy but of lower quality and higher prices than DR. Many more sex tourists go to Rio so it is a sellers market. I like Braziilian women but I am not going to pay those prices for them. 10 years ago it was a paradise. But I guess that is true of many places. All that said, Rio is a much more interesting place to go for the culture and sightseeing.

DR is almost as easy as Pataya for sex. It is teeming with semi-pros and is a buyers market. You walk down the beach and see a girl you like and you ask her if she wants to go with you. It feels like a freebie pickup but she will ask for money at some point. Show her a good time and it will be really cheap. She would rater stay with you in your nice beach house than go home to her hovel so an overnight is usually the same price as it is for just sex. But stay away from Punta Cana and other resorts. American women don't like prostitutes so the local authorities keep the girls away. They want that tourism dollar.

I've not been to BA. I might look into going.

Have you tried North Cyprus? I assume you have being from Turkey. Brothels have EE girls at good prices. I have not been there yet, but it is on my short list.

Iceberg27

10-01-13, 12:46

I am meaning from a purely sex tourism perspective. DR has nice beaches, but otherwise is a rather boring other than the girls. Rio is a far more interesting city.

Have you tried North Cyprus? I assume you have being from Turkey. Brothels have EE girls at good prices. I have not been there yet, but it is on my short list.Dear Yummy,

I have made a research on DR section and I have bad idea about it. First mostly black women. Second the country doesn't sound a safe place. Anyway. Maybe I will head to Moscow becuase it's possible to have just 5 days vacation. I had promised people here that I will give a second chance to this city. Regarding Cyprus Liljoey's posts are useful and one of my colleagues stayed there for 10 years. I don't think so it's a good destination to be since the cheap prices. Place is full of Turks and National Holiday is approaching.

Protocol

10-04-13, 21:24

Well this club is good.

That is if you want dances from African girls or fat Russian girls.

What a horrible disappointment this place was.

Smokey. Bored out of shape Russian girls sitting around. African girls hustling, at least they ask "may I dance for you."

Really, I'm not coming to Moscow to get dances from girls from Africa.

I guess if you want to see beautiful Russian girls you have to go to Flashdancers in New York City now.

Couldn't be more disappointed in the girls. Club was nice looking otherwise, but what a ripoff.

Protocol

10-07-13, 00:47

Jake993

10-07-13, 09:50

Ok, so. This was supposed to be at or near the top I guess of the Moscow strip clubs.

I did go on the most off night of off nights.

One girl there looked like a real fashion model. Otherwise fairly average girls I'd say 7s all around with the one fashion model girl an 8. Not pushy which is nice. Drinks reasonably priced. 1,000 rubles to get in.

Dealing with the hotel's "night taxi" BS which means they're pocketing something from the driver, cost 1, 000 rubles to get there. Dealing with the "OMG I paid for parking" BS taxi driver on the way out means you're going to get shafted for another 1, 000 rubles or walk back. So about 3, 000 rubles go into the overhead of being there.

Most beautiful girl in the entire bar was a waitress sitting there doing nothing who didn't speak English. Wish I knew if the waitresses gave private dances.

Private dances all ended with the request to go to the hotel, cost 15, 000 rubles, seems their local "hotel" for legal senses. I turned it all down but the dances were ok.

Overall Moscow is a massive disappointment to me. Any reasonably attractive girl has an oligarch at her beck and call, certainly very few are falling through into the strip club scene. New York City and Las Vegas blow away Moscow both for beautiful girls (who are all Russian and Ukrainian anyway) and for value without any of the taxi BS.

Just really, if you're planning on visiting Moscow to see some beautiful girls, I think forget it unless you want to play rusodug lotto (which I don't want to play, I want to know what I'm getting). Strip clubs are just a massive fail compared to western standards, with the best girls from this culture getting over to the USA to work. It pains me to have to suggest New York to see girls from Russia but that seems to be the conclusion after getting out and about.

If you're happy with 7s then it's completely fine. Girls are friendly and nice and not being hassled every 3 seconds for tips (only every 5 mins) was a relief.Protocol,

I agree with you on all accounts.

What you have experienced is the "New Moscow" which is enjoying some degree of relative prosperity. When times are good, the really good looking girls have something better to do than hook and strip. The best place to see really stunning women in Moscow is not the strip club or the brothel, but in parks, restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, shopping malls, coffee shops and just about anywhere else pretty girls with a few rubles to spend like to hang out.

As has been said time and time again, if you come to Moscow expecting the P4P candy factory of yesteryear, forget it. It's not here.

It's bad news for mongers to be sure. The scene has shifted from P4P to traditional dating which, I assure you, is as promising as it ever has been due to the massive imbalance between men and women in Moscow.

Jake

Climaxnow

10-08-13, 18:47

Ok, so. This was supposed to be at or near the top I guess of the Moscow strip clubs.

I did go on the most off night of off nights.

One girl there looked like a real fashion model. Otherwise fairly average girls I'd say 7s all around with the one fashion model girl an 8. Not pushy which is nice. Drinks reasonably priced. 1,000 rubles to get in.

Dealing with the hotel's "night taxi" BS which means they're pocketing something from the driver, cost 1, 000 rubles to get there. Dealing with the "OMG I paid for parking" BS taxi driver on the way out means you're going to get shafted for another 1, 000 rubles or walk back. So about 3, 000 rubles go into the overhead of being there.

Most beautiful girl in the entire bar was a waitress sitting there doing nothing who didn't speak English. Wish I knew if the waitresses gave private dances.

Private dances all ended with the request to go to the hotel, cost 15, 000 rubles, seems their local "hotel" for legal senses. I turned it all down but the dances were ok.

Overall Moscow is a massive disappointment to me. Any reasonably attractive girl has an oligarch at her beck and call, certainly very few are falling through into the strip club scene. New York City and Las Vegas blow away Moscow both for beautiful girls (who are all Russian and Ukrainian anyway) and for value without any of the taxi BS.

Just really, if you're planning on visiting Moscow to see some beautiful girls, I think forget it unless you want to play rusodug lotto (which I don't want to play, I want to know what I'm getting). Strip clubs are just a massive fail compared to western standards, with the best girls from this culture getting over to the USA to work. It pains me to have to suggest New York to see girls from Russia but that seems to be the conclusion after getting out and about.

If you're happy with 7s then it's completely fine. Girls are friendly and nice and not being hassled every 3 seconds for tips (only every 5 mins) was a relief.Interesting report. I was in Moscow about 4 years ago and I never saw so many beautiful women under a roof. Keep in mind I use to troll US strip clubs in the late 90's when there truly was a lot of EE's. It is my personal belief that VK has connected the girls so well among a cities Russian community that these venues are no longer as attractive to the top girls. Quality devs can now survive with gifts from referenced/qualified friends.

Iceberg27

10-09-13, 00:33

Fellow mongerers will remember; I had a great adventure in Moscow in 2010 and it was sad sometimes rewarding mostly. So I gave a promise to people on this forum. I would have come back again. Now it's time to keep my words. After exhausting analysis and comparisons I decided to come Moscow for 17. 10-20. 10. 2013 despite protocol's negative reports on city. My only fear is bad weather but I looks temps. Are over 5 °C for the period that I will come there. I have bought my ticket. Check I Fly and Pegasus. Both are giving great prices to Moscow and now second step is to find a good accommodation. When I was in St. Pete in March. I had used Oxana's apartments (nevsky88) and I was so much happy with their service. The owner is an American married with a Russian woman. For moscow they also give contact to another american who stays in there and again married with a Russian. Which apartment service you guys are using? And is there anyone who had used Rick's service before? You were happy or not? Do you know any disco night club for hunting like Real Mccoy or Che?

Protocol

10-09-13, 08:56

Interesting report. I was in Moscow about 4 years ago and I never saw so many beautiful women under a roof. Keep in mind I use to troll US strip clubs in the late 90's when there truly was a lot of EE's. It is my personal belief that VK has connected the girls so well among a cities Russian community that these venues are no longer as attractive to the top girls. Quality devs can now survive with gifts from referenced/qualified friends.You look on something like VK and you'd think that Moscow was filled with stunning women.

I saw only one.

The huge disappointment has been the strip clubs in Moscow. I thought that they'd be better than SPB but Maximus was far and away better than these places.

Flashdancers in NYC is now almost 100% Russian and Ukrainian girls and they're gorgeous. Fitness trainers, models, beautiful girls coming over to hunt for their banker husband I guess. Even in Thailand in some of the clubs in Patong you will see very beautiful girls. Moscow has been the absolute bottom of the barrel. I went there just before coming to Moscow so I was thinking wow, I will be dying and going to heaven.

Instead I was having a drink and getting the hell out as fast as I could.

To me to have 15% of the girls in a Moscow strip club working coming from Africa says that you just don't have enough pretty girls at home to fill your club. Nothing against African girls but if I were looking for them I'd go to Africa or the USA, my thoughts on Moscow were about seeing Russian girls. The African girls were the only ones in good shape too at 911.

So maybe your theory is right.

This is just a bad job for a pretty girl at this point in time, with so many of them going to other countries now, the ones left are in balance with the money being thrown at them from the oligarchy. You can model nude and get $100 / hr if it comes to it and have nobody touch you. You can have a rich boyfriend buy you things and get you into all the right places and take you on trips. Or you can just exit and leave the competition behind and go to Miami or New York and make your friends back home jealous who "want USA."

I did stop into Night Flight and there were some nice girls there (nice as in nice, not beautiful) but it looked like Uzbek, Khazak kind of imports that you will see in Bangkok claiming to be Russian. They have that style of dress and makeup that looks like 1980s Soviet Union.

Once these girls here get some kind of money to get the things they want, they've shifted into status from what I can tell, so it's about going out to the top places to take pictures to show your friends showing your clothes, shoes, purse and where you currently are, so that everyone knows what an awesome life you're leading.

Going out with friends, the girls in the party have come up, everyone has the iPhone5S instantly after release (don't even think it was released yet in Moscow?) , Louboutin shoes. 22 year old girls driving up in BMW5 and 7 series cars, $20,000 watches.

I do have to make one correction in that I met a beautiful girl from Mamba but it's serious dating and she wants to fly business class, and all of that stuff or not travel anywhere because she is flying so much on vacations previously that she finds it tiring. Some of these girls now spend their summers in France, Monaco, St. Tropez, Ibiza. If you talk about travel to a place like Thailand they think you're poor because you didn't go to Maldives. I don't think I met her standards either though mostly Russian girls seem to like me and I get along with them fine.

So in conclusion, if you want just an average kind of girl that you can meet at home in the USA you will probably continue to do fine here. If you want a beautiful girl, you're probably better off looking at home because here you're going to have to import a suitcase filled with gold. Or better yet, look for Russian girls outside of Russia far from the oligarchy.

If you want just a nice average girl, they are out there, and I did meet them socially. But these are girls that you should be nice to and keep and treat well as a girlfriend, they're not for fun flings.

I've been battling with taxi drivers who want 1, 000 rubles for a 10 minute ride, and had some propose 1, 500 and 2,000.

Just not worth it overall, the product pricing has spun way high and the quality is certainly not easily found unless you're already living the lifestyle where it comes and finds you. I think therein lies the rub with Moscow.

Protocol

10-09-13, 09:04

Protocol,

I agree with you on all accounts.

What you have experienced is the "New Moscow" which is enjoying some degree of relative prosperity. When times are good, the really good looking girls have something better to do than hook and strip. The best place to see really stunning women in Moscow is not the strip club or the brothel, but in parks, restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, shopping malls, coffee shops and just about anywhere else pretty girls with a few rubles to spend like to hang out.

As has been said time and time again, if you come to Moscow expecting the P4P candy factory of yesteryear, forget it. It's not here.

It's bad news for mongers to be sure. The scene has shifted from P4P to traditional dating which, I assure you, is as promising as it ever has been due to the massive imbalance between men and women in Moscow.

JakeI am more just going to the strip clubs to look and chat without any complications.

I've done some of the bars and walked around and such and still didn't see anything that made my head snap around. Staying at a five star hotel in a lot of locations you see beautiful people around, but not here.

The one beautiful girl I did see was a date, but as mentioned below without promises of St. Tropez, Champagne and Business Class flights to Maldives she was lukewarm to me though we had a nice time. I am not looking for a $10,000 / month expense that is going to whine and moan about not seeing me enough so I didn't make any attempts to push it forward. Also they are looking for lockdown. Someone who travels and enjoys the world is not so interesting as a man saying, here's how much I make per year, I live in Switzerland, I need a beautiful wife who doesn't have to work, and I want three children over the next 5 years. I get that impression too, especially if the ratio is not favoring them they have more reason to discard the unserious types as the faster they discard the more beauty time they have left on the clock to find someone who will buy the product.

I'm finding that to be pick your poison, plus I am not a bad guy, I won't flirt with and try to get the attention of a woman who is 30 and looking for something serious by pretending to be something I'm not. I'll be honest with her and she can make her decision. I'm not in this to make someone feel scammed or hurt or sad or lonely, god knows there is enough of that out there in the world.

I have two more nights here and hopefully will see something interesting before I go, just as a tourist, hoping to see some beautiful sights.

Stravinsky

10-09-13, 18:10

For moscow they also give contact to another american who stays in there and again married with a Russian. Which apartment service you guys are using? And is there anyone who had used Rick's service before? You were happy or not?I have used Rick before and was very happy with the service and the apartments that he has to rent. When you consider what you are getting for the price, it's a much better deal than staying in a hotel.

My favorite is #26 Tverskaya, but #12 Karetny Ryad is a good choice if you want to save a little money. It's small, but well located. There is an Azbuxa Vkusa (super market) next door and Parizhkaya Zhizn used to be just around the corner. Not sure if it still is.

Jake993

10-10-13, 07:32

I have two more nights here and hopefully will see something interesting before I go, just as a tourist, hoping to see some beautiful sights.As a "last ditch effort", you might want to try Angels (www.clubangels.ru). It's the newest of the chain in Moscow and they often borrow some of the best girls from Aurora, Penthouse, and The Loft for the first 6 months.

Jake993

10-10-13, 07:33

I have used Rick before and was very happy with the service and the apartments that he has to rent. When you consider what you are getting for the price, it's a much better deal than staying in a hotel.

My favorite is #26 Tverskaya, but #12 Karetny Ryad is a good choice if you want to save a little money. It's small, but well located. There is an Azbuxa Vkusa (super market) next door and Parizhkaya Zhizn used to be just around the corner. Not sure if it still is.I also had good experiences with Rick's places.

As for places, Real McCoy is now closed. Che is still good. Down the street is Old School Pub which on Fridays nights is a pussyfest (lots of girls).

Iceberg27

10-10-13, 17:20

I also had good experiences with Rick's places.

As for places, Real McCoy is now closed. Che is still good. Down the street is Old School Pub which on Fridays nights is a pussyfest (lots of girls).Dear Strav and Jake,

Strangely Rick still didn't reply me for two days. I try to reach him via Oksana but no answer. I have also made a reservation via Airbnb to someone called Yaroslaw but having troubles. He doesn't speak Russian. My flat would be on Novinsky Boulevard. And my reservation is still waiting. I am nervous about accommodation. My budget is around 100-115 USD per night. I hope Rick can give this price. I don't want a shared room nor a room inside someone's flat. I need a separate whole studio. Your comments about accommodation will be appreciated. BR

Stravinsky

10-10-13, 19:42

Dear Strav and Jake,

Strangely Rick still didn't reply me for two days. I try to reach him via Oksana but no answer. I have also made a reservation via Airbnb to someone called Yaroslaw but having troubles. He doesn't speak Russian. My flat would be on Novinsky Boulevard. And my reservation is still waiting. I am nervous about accommodation. My budget is around 100-115 USD per night. I hope Rick can give this price. I don't want a shared room nor a room inside someone's flat. I need a separate whole studio. Your comments about accommodation will be appreciated. BRYou will have to excuse Rick, he has been in Russia so long he starts to do business like a Russian--several days to reply to an email is not unusual.

Did you look at Rick's website? www.moscow-star.com You can see all the flats he has available and the prices. I think you will be hard-pressed to find your own apartment for 100-115 USD per night. Not unless you take it for at least a week, or longer.

Check your PM.

Jake993

10-12-13, 12:05

You will have to excuse Rick, he has been in Russia so long he starts to do business like a Russian-several days to reply to an email is not unusual.

Did you look at Rick's website?

www.moscow-star.com

You can see all the flats he has available and the prices. I think you will be hard-pressed to find your own apartment for 100-115 USD per night. Not unless you take it for at least a week, or longer.

Check your PM.I agree with Strav. Rick is not the most prompt replier. BTW, I understand that he's moved back to LA and has a local manager running the show. I don't know the apartment on Novinsky Bulvar, but the location is very good.

There are a few other serviced apartment groups in Moscow. Give me a day and I will track them down for you.

Stylish Man 17

10-12-13, 17:47

Hi. This is my first time posting on the Moscow page having only recently changed jobs and relocated from Dubai. I'm interested to find out whether anyone has any decent contacts for WGs or masseuses in the Molodejnaya or Krylatskoye area who speak English and offer an incall service? I've read back through past posts and there seems to be little specific info on this. I've been to a place on Kut Prospect for an erotic massage a few times (2500rub an hour for a massage, HJ and some access to assets). PM me if you want details. Only one or two girls speak (very poor) English. However, I'm eager to branch out and look for someone who offers full service. Can anyone help?

Iceberg27

10-13-13, 01:14

Stravinsky

10-13-13, 22:03

My reservation is confirmed on airbnb by Yaroslav.

https://www.airbnb.com.tr/rooms/767662

I have read the comments about it. Mostly positive.Don't forget to bring toilet paper!! :)

1. Club aurora 911 (Despite my bad memories and protocol s negative comments I will definitely visit it. Anyone wants to join who is in town? They have a strict divan policy so I can order a beer for a friend make us sit on seat there together.) Don't pay too much attention to Protocol. If you read through all 27 of his posts, it seems he travels the world, visiting strip clubs and complaining. People usually find what they are looking for--if you expect to have a bad time, you will.

7. A decent Russian massage salon. (I need to RTFF to find out) My favorite is www.erotic-massage.ru They have been around for a long time and, as far as I know, they are the only massage in Moscow to offer "intime" service. They now also offer выезд (outcall). Each of the dyeffki have different prices, so check them all out. The location near Smolenskaya Metro (Смоленская) should be within walking distance from your flat. Only problem is, you may have trouble to communicate with them in English, but I think that will be true with all the massage places.

счастливо

YummyPL

10-14-13, 01:37

Protocol

10-14-13, 10:36

Well on my last night I went back to Night Flight hoping my first visit was an anomaly. And second visit was much better.

Part of the first night problem I think was not staying late enough. I made the innocent mistake of asking one of the girls if it would get busier later on. She said no no definitely not, but I think now she was thinking I was wondering about delaying my choice and she was trying to remove all hope. I was just curious.

But anyway I went back midweek and there were more people there which made it nicer to be in. A couple of good looking girls, one of whom I took out of the club. After making that decision a 10/10 blonde girl in a short dress came in. I am normally complaining about everything so if I say 10 then I'm impressed.

I picked my girl based on personality and looks, I think she was about an 8 and I was happy because she was just a fun girl to hang around with with a good spirit and that's all one can hope for. So it ended on a good note.

Jake993

10-14-13, 14:52

Jake993

10-16-13, 09:58

Jake,

My reservation is confirmed on airbnb by Yaroslav.

https://www.airbnb.com.tr/rooms/767662

I have read the comments about it. Mostly positive. Now at the moment my flight and accommodation problems have been solved. It s time to make my list for club and salon visits.

As follows;

1. Club aurora 911 (Despite my bad memories and protocol s negative comments I will definitely visit it. Anyone wants to join who is in town? They have a strict divan policy so I can order a beer for a friend make us sit on seat there together.)

2. Golden Dolls.

3. Fantasys salon (this time I will find someone who speaks Russian to help me in communication. Any other recommendation for salons?)

4. An appropiate salsa club. (Yes I can dance!)

5. Che.

6. Old school pub.

7. A decent Russian massage salon. (I need to RTFF to find out)

8. Club angels.

Your comments and contributions will highly be appreciated.

Regards.Iceberg27,

Sorry for slow reply.

Comments:

1. Despite some bad reports. I like Aurora for sentimental reasons.

2. Golden Dolls. 2nd tier club in my opinion. But there can always be surprises.

3. Also try Charm'El. Sister club. http://www.charmel.biz/

4. Salsa Club. Old Havana is famous and upscale. http://www.old-havana.ru/?page=restarsn&lang=en But on Friday nights they used to have Salsa at Tiki Bar. http://www.tiki-bar.ru/

5. Che. Always good.

6. Old School Pub. Last Friday night it was wall to wall pussy. Mostly office girls going out after work. Possibly the BEST pick up place in Moscow at the moment.

7. There are mixed review but I heard this one is decent. http://www.edem-club.ru/english Easy to find near Belorusskaya.

8. Club Angels. Also good.

When are you going to be in Moscow?

Iceberg27

10-16-13, 16:16

Iceberg27,

Sorry for slow reply.

Comments:

1. Despite some bad reports. I like Aurora for sentimental reasons.

2. Golden Dolls. 2nd tier club in my opinion. But there can always be surprises.

3. Also try Charm'El. Sister club.

http://www.charmel.biz/

4. Salsa Club. Old Havana is famous and upscale.

http://www.old-havana.ru/?page=restarsn&lang=en

But on Friday nights they used to have Salsa at Tiki Bar.

http://www.tiki-bar.ru/

5. Che. Always good.

6. Old School Pub. Last Friday night it was wall to wall pussy. Mostly office girls going out after work. Possibly the BEST pick up place in Moscow at the moment.

7. There are mixed review but I heard this one is decent.

http://www.edem-club.ru/english

Easy to find near Belorusskaya.

8. Club Angels. Also good.

When are you going to be in Moscow?Jake I will be there tomorrow about 4 o clock. It will be good to have a beer if you are available.

And one question,

I was already watching news and Moscow is having nationalist protests because of an azheri killed a Russian.

I am very much look like an Azheri because of my Turkish roots. I am a bit nervous.

How is the situation there in the streets?

Should I make a delay for my visit?

Is it safe to be there?

;

Stravinsky

10-16-13, 23:21

I was already watching news and Moscow is having nationalist protests because of an azheri killed a Russian.

I am very much look like an Azheri because of my Turkish roots. I am a bit nervous.

How is the situation there in the streets?

Should I make a delay for my visit?

Is it safe to be there?Iceberg,

The recent incident, last week, took place in Birulevo (Бирюлево), in an extreme southern part of Moscow. That's a long way from the neighborhood where you will be staying. If you stick to the area around Arbat/Pushinkinskaya/Tverskaya you should be OK.

There is some concern that the nationalists in the south of Moscow could take their protest up to Manezhnaya Square, next to Krasnaya Ploshod (the Kremlin). If that happens, then you should excercise some care when walking around town. Stay away from big crowds, etc. But this will probably not happen, and if it does, Vladimir Vladimirovich will shut it down immediately.

If you walk out your front door in the morning and you don't hear the sound of AK-47's somewhere off in the distance, then it should be a good day. Just kidding. ;)

Bottom line is--the nationalist protests are about foreign, undocumented aliens living and working in Moscow. I've never met you, but I'm pretty sure that no one would mistake you for an undocumented alien. Dress well, behave yourself, be polite and you should be fine.

Iceberg27

10-17-13, 00:40

Iceberg,

The recent incident, last week, took place in Birulevo (&1041; &1080; &1088; &1102; &1083; &1077; &1074; &1086, in an extreme southern part of Moscow. That's a long way from the neighborhood where you will be staying. If you stick to the area around Arbat / Pushinkinskaya / Tverskaya you should be OK.

Bottom line is-the nationalist protests are about foreign, undocumented aliens living and working in Moscow. I've never met you, but I'm pretty sure that no one would mistake you for an undocumented alien. Dress well, behave yourself, be polite and you should be fine.Strav,

I have reviewed a bit more from BBC after I wrote here. You are right it's in an isolated area. Far away of my apartment in Novinski Blv. So there is no change in my plans. I am landing Domodevo Airport at 4 pm tomorrow.

BTW I have made a lot of RTFF because I was in national holiday in my hometown and nothing much to do there for the last 3 days.

My updated list wrt to importance and must visit sequence would be as follows;

Strip Clubs;

1. Club aurora 911.

2. Club Angels.

3. The loft.

4. Deja Vu.

5. Bordo.

Salons;

1. Charmels.

2. Fantasys.

3. Atel.

4. Dolce Vita.

Frebies;

1. Old school pub.

2. Old Havana Club.

3. Che.

4. Tiky Bar.

5. Luch.

MP's

1. Erotic Massage.

2. Edem Club.

I think enough for 3 days but I am open for you comments and contributions because I write also for others to benefit. By the way Yummy has done a very good job prepared a map so I want to give the link for this a second tme for the ones missed it.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=z3J6Ghj4nYZU.k-npv-bSjhF4

Do you think Coyote Ugly worth a visit or still open?

Another issue is;

What is your strategies for entering freebie clubs like Old School Pub without a dam?

One of my strategy is would be to make a reservation in an early time for dinner.(That works for Che) but for bars and night clubs it wouldnt work and also you will loose much time because normally you should enter there about 11:30 but now have to enter before 10:00 p.m.I prefer to spend this time interval in Strip clubs and then move to Freebie locations.

Second is; Walk around the door and aska a girl who is already going there to enter together and order her a beer.That rarely works but i really worked sometimes for me (It looks weird and unsafe to girls.)

BR

Stravinsky

10-17-13, 01:38

What is your strategies for entering freebie clubs like Old School Pub without a dam?

One of my strategy is would be to make a reservation in an early time for dinner.(That works for Che) but for bars and night clubs it wouldnt work and also you will loose much time because normally you should enter there about 11:30 but now have to enter before 10:00 p.m.I prefer to spend this time interval in Strip clubs and then move to Freebie locations.
Wow! That list should keep you busy for a couple weeks.

Something to think about, and I mention this simply because it should be convenient to where your apartment is:

Club Egoist Gold--it used to be near Sadovaya Kudrinskaya and Spiridonovka, just north of you. Very expensive, but just a short walk from your apt. Haven't been there in a long time, best check the website and call first: egostrip.ru

Curious... why do you need a strategy to enter a night club? Best way is to just, well... walk in. Unless, of course, it is some elitni Klub with face control. Only strategy is: dress well and act like you belong there. They'll never know the difference. Che can be difficult if you don't know the doorman, but I think that's because it's very small and fills up very fast.

Have a good time and let us know what you find.

Добра и Сил

Jake993

10-17-13, 11:47

Jake I will be there tomorrow about 4 o clock. It will be good to have a beer if you are available.

And one question,

I was already watching news and Moscow is having nationalist protests because of an azheri killed a Russian.

I am very much look like an Azheri because of my Turkish roots. I am a bit nervous.

How is the situation there in the streets?

Should I make a delay for my visit?

Is it safe to be there?

; Stick to the center of Moscow, dress a little better than usual and you will be fine.

The violence was down at the market where a lot of the Caucasus people hang out.

I am actually flying to Vienna for the weekend. Back on Sunday night.

How long are you in town for?

Iceberg27

10-17-13, 14:09

Stick to the center of Moscow, dress a little better than usual and you will be fine.

The violence was down at the market where a lot of the Caucasus people hang out.

I am actually flying to Vienna for the weekend. Back on Sunday night.

How long are you in town for?I will turn back on Sunday afternoon.

I will send my contact details via pm.

Thanks for your help.

ImprenditoreBo

10-20-13, 02:23

Hello guys,

I am new here and I hope I'm posting in the correct section of forum but I don t find a better place where I can write.

I''m planning to start an escort agency similar to yourdreamedgirls. They take girls from Russia and organize travel in Italy (my country).

I can give support on italian side.

For girls expecially from small cities is a very good business opportunity they can get 150\hour euros while in Russia some get like 80 dollars. Some ask also for 200.

This can work also from girls coming from worst places like Nigeria or Philippines considering in these places you can live good with 200 euros\month.

Anyone interested?

Cucumber

10-22-13, 17:41

You may find this map useful:

http://www.rusdosug.com/interactive.php

Moscow is a big city, and it doesn't make much sense to cross the city in a sardine can metro or two-hour traffic jam to pursue someone with a fake picture on the internet who may not even be there when you arrive. So work out where you are on the map and check out the action in your vicinity. I firmly believe that the best option is to go for a salon with a big selection, that way you are making choices based on reality, not a collection of red herrings.

Here is the key to the various symbols:

- Purple with a house symbol: a salon (brothel) with its own website etc.

- White: many girl's profiles registered on the same address, most likely a salon too.

- Red: independent girl (supposedly, sometimes they are, sometimes they are actually in a salon too)

- Purple: bdsm.

- Yellow: independent girl massage

Iceberg27

10-22-13, 18:00

first of all thanks to the fellow mongerers of the forum because moscow section really is one of the most detailed and active section of isg. i had used airbnb-yaroslav's service (you can search by novinsky boulevard business class apartment). the accommodation and the weather was both mostly feared issues of me because it was end of october and i had only paid 113 usd per day for the apartment. the weather was not a big problem for the first 2 days but beginning from saturday it sometimes influenced me. btw if you bring smt heavier than my coat you can be more free to walk at nights. i think having a car in moscow is a necessity despite terrible traffic. this visit showed me it's not into me to come here in heavy winter. and for the apartment i can say it just what i was expecting. separate bathroom, clean and i even had a hairdryer working. wi fi and satellite tv also worked without any problem. on my previous visit i could only have a hotel room just opposite the reception without bathroom with the same price. i have to say that the flat is very old and need a good renovation but i didn't care about it. strav was one hundred percent right about location. i was able to reach 3 strip clubs within ten minutes walk. i had only visited a few of my list because of limited time and money. 400 usd per day wasnt enough excluding accomodation. this city is really designed for russian folks. i had most of my meals in tepemok, (i highly advice this russian fast food restaurant. it's quick and delicious and also cheap.) i did go to p4p only once and money wasnt enough so you can understand how expensive it is. on my first night i had visited a restaurant called milwyn on novvy arbat. it 's recommendable because it's full of high school uniformed [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and showgirls. just in the beginning of novvy arbat on your left. my charmel visit wasnt so great. i had gone there friday 3 pm and i had only 5 choices. only one of them was an eight and she wasnt smiling. btw it was a enjoyable session despite she doesn't bbbf and no kiss. her name is daria. on saturday and on sunday charmel was busy. i have also visited aurora again. it's better than in the old days. i again enjoyed it. i love the feeling of being the lazy boy in that kind places. if you are not you should be. while i was taking a lap dance from one of the black dancers i suddenly put my hand under the skirt of a waitress just serving a beer to guy next to me. and guess what happened. she turned me and gave me a nice smile. that was one of the best moments of my life. of course i took her to private room and session was ok. refused to give her number but i don't care. on firday night i tried old school pub. jake was right. it's wall to wall pussy but also wall to wall cocks. if i could be a bit more relaxed and speak the lingua i could score. got a long and long french kiss from a girl and her lesbian gf kicked my ass. on friday night i rudely been refused in che. and saturday night i had gone to old havana club and something has been very clear in mind at that moment. it also happened in my last months's evpatoria visit. in such places you have the chance for a slow dance but in old school pub you don't have. moreover since i don't like that kind of music i am being in a bad mood in clubs. anwway the old havana was very small compared to old school pub and it's not recommandable. i have made a mistake by going there. i should try my chance in che or old school pub. it wasnt a problem to enter old school pub if you go in an early time. after leaving old havana with disappointment i decided to make a try for deja vu and it was my best moment on this trip. first time in my life i got a french kiss from a girl standing upside down. also another thing got clear in my mind for strip clubs. on friday night i headed to club angels and the system is same. but i also recommend it. it's only one third of aurora but you will get more attention from girls and vast majority of them are 10's. enjoyable place. i am sure i would live similar experiences in loft and penthouse club because they are all member of the same chain. but it looks like golden dolls and deja vu has the same system. you pay 1500 rub to enter and one private dance is free. every private dance is 1500 rub but you will get promotion every ten minutes. and you can get 3 or 2 songs per 1500 rubles. the best thing with them is girls there is less professional and has lower discipline so they are more natural. my sessions in deja vu was incredible. i started to belive getting bbbj in private dance sessions in strip clubs. anyway briefly i was a bit disappointed because time and money simply wasnt enough. i don't know i will give a third chance to moscow. because it will cost at least for 7 days x 750 usd =5200 usd totally. of course i accept the freebie potential there. i was just not in the right mood and didn't have enough time. i wish i could have found smt like the old shandra. it's my dream. strip club with reasonable sex prices. i have already read posts about it. maybe next time i try.

regards.

YummyPL

10-23-13, 18:07

I suddenly put my hand under the skirt of a waitress just serving a beer to guy next to me. And guess what happened. She turned me and gave me a nice smile. That was one of the best moments of my life.Great report Iceburg. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.

Jake993

10-24-13, 08:23

Went to ANGELS last night just for a QC check.

I found a whole new batch of perky tits who were not there last time I went.

Topless barmaids were a riot. Playful and fun with gorgeous boobies.

Spent way too much money but what the fuck.

Love that place.

Stravinsky

10-24-13, 18:36

400 USD per day wasnt enough excluding accomodation. This city is really designed for Russian Folks.

I love the feeling of being the lazy boy in that kind places. If you are not you should be. While I was taking a lap dance from one of the black dancers I suddenly put my hand under the skirt of a waitress just serving a beer to guy next to me. And guess what happened. She turned me and gave me a nice smile. That was one of the best moments of my life.

Got a long and long french kiss from a girl and her lesbian gf kicked my ass.

After leaving Old Havana with disappointment I decided to make a try for Deja Vu and it was my best moment on this trip. First time in my life I got a french kiss from a girl standing upside down.

Also another thing got clear in my mind for strip clubs. On Friday night I headed to Club Angels and the system is same. But I also recommend it. It's only one third of Aurora but you will get more attention from girls and vast majority of them are 10's. Enjoyable place.

My sessions in Deja Vu was incredible. I started to belive getting BBBJ in private dance sessions in Strip Clubs. Anyway briefly I was a bit disappointed because time and money simply wasnt enough.

It's my dream. Strip club with reasonable sex prices. I have already read posts about it. Maybe next time I try.

If I could be a bit more relaxed and speak the lingua I could score.

молодец! Sounds like your trip was uniquely entertaining, as only Moscow can be.

I'm with you, nothing beats a good strip club with reasonable sex prices. They exist in Moscow, but you won't find them in the center. You will need to travel beyond the center, now, probably, beyond MKAD. And you won't find anyone out there who speaks English.

I know Russian is not an easy language to learn, and there probably isn't much point to study it for a 3 day trip. But if you can speak the lingua even a little bit, then there is a whole new world of possibilities waiting for you in Moscow.

Iceberg27

10-24-13, 21:01

&1084; &1086; &1083; &1086; &1076; &1077; &1094; ! Sounds like your trip was uniquely entertaining, as only Moscow can be.

I'm with you, nothing beats a good strip club with reasonable sex prices. They exist in Moscow, but you won't find them in the center. You will need to travel beyond the center, now, probably, beyond MKAD. And you won't find anyone out there who speaks English.

I know Russian is not an easy language to learn, and there probably isn't much point to study it for a 3 day trip. But if you can speak the lingua even a little bit, then there is a whole new world of possibilities waiting for you in Moscow.Strav,

The most important benefit of my travel to Moscow was my increasing motivation to learn the lingua. Moreover touring in Moscow also get me incredible adaptation for the alphabet. I had handled most of my problems with the Cyrilic. Spending one day in the city and trying to understand the signs is much better than studying at home alone and try to memorise these weird symbols. Practice makes perfect! So it think the door is opened for me for Russian. I will enter the wonderland soon. (Check the last post of Prosal in Ukraine Other areas section about Zaporojie.) By the way I am sorry because I couldn't check the egoist club. It has came in my mind on Saturday night and I was out of my financial resources and the weather was freezing out there.
заботиться!

Yummy thanks.

When something comes up my mind for scratches on your back I will share immediately! Still thinking about it!

Regards.

TranquilLife

10-24-13, 21:06

Jake993

10-25-13, 07:40

Hey all, long time lurker here! I'm going to be heading to Moscow for a week, and could do with some late night evening entertainment. Only problem, I'm going to be working very long hours, and just want an easy time. Having the girl come up to my hotel room. Does anyone have recent recommendations to make? I've found references on here to.

http://www.rusdosug.com

From a couple of years ago. Has anyone used it more recently? Any recommended girls? I'm thinking if that doesn't work, then I'll ask the doorman in the hotel, but I really need to be discrete, since I'll be staying in a hotel with people from work.TL,

If you go to.

www.rusdosug.com

And click on the EN button in the upper right corner, you will be take to a page with English speaking girls. Olenka is usually the first one to come up. She is a hoot. Although getting a little long in the tooth, she's more fun than a barrel of monkeys. Her English is good but she does NOT do anal so don't even ask. I once went to her place and brought a small bottle of Beluga (vodka). She cooked chicken and we had a regular party before shagging. She's quite a good sport.

Tanya (who is usually in the upper right) is very mechanical and has silicone boobs. She's nice enough but just does not do it for me.

You might also try.

www.sweet-dreams.ru

I have not personally used them for more than a year but have sent other guys and they seemed to be happy. Send me a PM if you want more details.

Sour3113

10-25-13, 14:19

Hi everyone,

Just signed up as I arrived in Moscow last night and realized I need help. This is how I found you guys and hope in some help!

I did some puntering in the past but never in russia and never been in a massage parlor. Also don't speak a word in Russian (to which I wonder : do all of you guys speak Russian? It seems like none of you have problems!)

How does a massage parlor work? I know its a rookie question but hey I've got to start! You just go in, ask a massage and the girl does it all? Or do you have to tell her " ok HJ time" or "BJ time (if there is any)"; touching is allowed?

I'm in the smolenskay area and was wondering if you guys had some advices. Checked out the 2 massage parlors around here (I mean I called, asked if they spoke English, got a Niet and they hanged up.)

Now not really sure how to get there. Do I just walk towards them? Do you have to set up appointments?

Basicly any help to get laid would help. Not even sure how to find these places.

I'm only staying a few days and would rather stay in the area (saw the subway. Don't understand it. I'm from ny and thought it would be easier!) so hopefully just walking distance.

As I said any help would be really nice!

Thank you for your help in my getting laid.

BTW if anyone going to rome I can help out.

Stravinsky

10-25-13, 17:27

Hi everyone, Just signed up as I arrived in Moscow last night and realized I need help.Sour,

Sorry, I'm afraid you're just screwed (so to speak). There is nothing you can do at this point about P4P.

I assume you are staying in a hotel, so the only possibility would be to speak with someone at the desk or the concierge, if they have one, about how and where you can meet women for sex. Don't be shy, in Russia it's OK for a man to want sex.

Depending on your looks, your game, and how much money you have, you might have some luck in the night clubs. Jake can advise you best about the night club scene.

Or, better yet, take a moment to help yourself, and scroll down the page to Iceberg's report on his recent trip and you should have all the info you need.

Sour3113

10-25-13, 19:33

LOL wish I was screwed in some other way!

I'm staying at a house but no possibility of inviting.

Strip clubs look interesting I just don't want to spend 500$ for 1h. Just seems like too much for too little.

I did want to try the Moscovitan experience tho so I figure massage place would give me the chance to keep the budget down and still have some fun.

There are a few places around here I just really don't understand how it works (other than the english part) : I read somewhere in the forum that some places you have to wait outside and they come pick you up? Is that standard procedure? What can you actually do in a massage parlour? We talking only HJ finale or other tipes too? (can I hope for a BJ?)

I was also considering Dolce Vita that isn't too far; but as I mentioned I lack the material experience with these kind of places. What happens? How does it work? What to expect.

For example say I go to Dolce Vita, not all of them offer anal; so how do I pick a girl? I ask all of them " you do it?" or not all of them offer bbj; I ask again? Or am I expecting these services to be offered? Ask the girls or the manager (or whoever is the person I talk too)

In Italy I usually went to the providers house and it was easy; I wanted to try something different here just not sure how and what to expect as I only know "the" and "Niet" LOL.

Any sort of help is more than welcome but I don't want to be annoying and pestering you guys as I feel like a noob right now.

Reef LostCause

10-25-13, 20:43

Hi all.

Another newbie's first post here, which will somehow echo ther previous one about massage parlours.

First of all, thanks for this website who is both informative and entertaining.

By reading this Moscow section, I'm getting a bit curious.

I was thinking about maybe planning a trip to BKK at some point in 2014, but I'm starting to wonder if MOW could be a valuable alternative.

I've already been to Russia a couple of times: First of all, for me it's lot closer to home, and find it hard to believe that anybody on earth could be sexier than Russian chicks.

Plus I believe MOW has a lot more "other" stuff to offer that BKK. (External temperature being another story.)

Now specifically getting to the point : What I am looking for would be the "classical" BKK services: Body 2 Body massage, Oil / Nuru, air mattress, HJ / BJ; Not necessarily FS if it gets me into trouble.

Is it possible to expect the same level of services in a MOW massage salon than at BKK?

What can I expect if I try one: Do you simply wallk into these places or have to take an appointment.

Are they dives or classy setup such as these Aurora 911 or Penth on Arabaskaya?

Is it mandatory to speak some Russian? (currently limited to "PRIVET"

Like the other guy, mostly rookie questions but thanks in advance for any help.

Reef LostCause

10-25-13, 21:31

Strip clubs look interesting I just don't want to spend 500$ for 1h. Just seems like too much for too little.

Any sort of help is more than welcome but I don't want to be annoying and pestering you guys as I feel like a noob right now.1 hour in the so-called "Sex Room" at Aurora or Penthouse should be quoted at 13k RUB, or about 400 bucks. No small change but less than what you wrote, or maybe you're includings cover. 1 drink and some tips.

Chercheur

10-26-13, 10:38

Sour3113

10-26-13, 11:05

If you don't speak the lingo, go to the strip clubs (and Night Flight) just to have a look, it is worth to have a drink there and look at the girls, but sex is way too expensive. Then go to the top end salons, they speak English and you can have very good sex with a beautifull lady for an almost reasonable price.

Then you will understand that learning Russian opens the door to paradiseHi Chercheur,

Quick question by top end salon you don't mean massage parlors correct?

Something like Charmel, Fantasy, Eden?

Does anyone know anything about Dolce Vita? I think I'm just going to go there as it seems reasonable in both prices and it looks like they speak English.

Next time I'll definitly have to learn some Russian!

Thanks again for all the help.

Bullion

10-27-13, 08:43

Was staying at the hotel B, a 10-minute walk from Sokolniki Park and Krasnoselskaya Metro Station, in Moscow.

Met up with a PYT near the reception itself.

She asked for USD200 for night, Fixed deal at USD70 for a pop and around an hour, gave room number.

She came up, started with a bath, and got into bed.

Oral from her was heaven.

Didn't allow kissing, quite talkative asked questions on where I was from, why in Moscow etc.

She did a good job.

Body 9/10.

Oral 10/10.

Attitude 8/10.

WIR I wish I could.

A question for the group is USD75 a pop reasonable, next visit would want to optimise.

In this case the room was a cost already incurred as I was staying there.

I don't speak Russian, only English.

YummyPL

10-28-13, 06:45

Met up with a PYT near the reception itself.

Body 9/10.

Oral 10/10.

Attitude 8/10.If this is accurate, it sounds like you got a good deal especially for an English speaking hotel girl. The 200 for the night is excellent. Did she use a condom for oral? Did she want US Dollars? Did you get her contact number? PM me if you can share some details. I am in Moscow now.

Jake993

10-28-13, 08:51

She asked for USD200 for night, Fixed deal at USD70 for a pop and around an hour, gave room number.Excellent price. Wow that almost unheard of.

Could be because of your location. Sokolniki is hardly out in the stick but it's not exactly in the center.

Sounds like you did well.

Iceberg27

10-28-13, 14:33

Hi all.

Another newbie's first post here, which will somehow echo ther previous one about massage parlours.

First of all, thanks for this website who is both informative and entertaining.

By reading this Moscow section, I'm getting a bit curious.

I was thinking about maybe planning a trip to BKK at some point in 2014, but I'm starting to wonder if MOW could be a valuable alternative.

I've already been to Russia a couple of times: First of all, for me it's lot closer to home, and find it hard to believe that anybody on earth could be sexier than Russian chicks.

Is it mandatory to speak some Russian? (currently limited to "PRIVET"

Like the other guy, mostly rookie questions but thanks in advance for any help.Since I am very much into comparisons I want to make a few comments.

For massage things Moscow and Banghok are not even comparable. Moscow isn't place for massages. Yes there are MP's but they are for another purpose.

You will never find the quality of service in Moscow than you can find in Banghok.

First thing that you must decide is do you prefer Brunette-Short-Childish look girls or Blonde-Tall-Stylish look women?

Check both forum's photo galleries.

It's possible to find some very good strip clubs in Banghok in Soi-Cowboy.

If we give up mentality I would suggest you go to Banghok because you will find much more touristic area.No racism- cheap prices.

It's worht to take long flying hours and the cost will be close because Moscow is incredibly expensive. You can find very good hotels in Pattaya with 100 USD / day.

Banghok will give you everything; Freebie-Stripclub-p4p-Large selection of Nonmongering Activities.

Regards.

Sour3113

10-28-13, 16:39

Ok so here it goes.

Just came back from Charmel.

The place was ok, nice facilities, bed, bathroom offered before and after.

There were about 7-8 girls, all around 5's; one 7 (8 body for me. 6 face wise = 7) petite blonde

Wow not speaking Russian really blocks tyou. Trying to talk with her was impossible, no touching private areas, just breast, no bbj only covered, couldn't go to deep (I'm very average.)

The actual sex was good IMHO, loved her body and her noises. When I was about to finish I ask her (tried to ask) where I could cum. After a view "stoh" she gets up, says time up, and dresses. WTF? I'm not even done! She says she has to go talk to the manager whatever. Comes back 5 min later, finaylly manage to cob. ; 40 min passed (15 just trying to comunicate) but she says 5min left. At that point even if I could have more time didn't want it.

Fun experience all in all as never been to a brothel and being Monday probably not the best time. Also think I saw about 3 other guys go before me so probably the good ones were gone.

Not sure what to think but really too expensive for what you get (again if you don't know Russian.)

Enjoy

Jake993

10-29-13, 07:20

Wow not speaking Russian really blocks you.Yeah, it's true. Even though there are so many more girls speaking English in Moscow these days, you can still find yourself in a situation where you just can't be understood. And in these cases, Russians are Russians and if they think they can pull a "fast one" on you, they will. But dud, I have to give you a lot of credit for trying. Clearly you are of an adventurous nature. While it's much more expensive to do so, going for on-site sex in the strip clubs is a much more straightforward process. But you blazed a trail for yourself. Well done.

BTW. As you know, this Thursday is Halloween. The Moscovites are REALLY warming up to this holiday and it is becoming a very popular party day. If you are still in Moscow on Thursday night, I would highly recommend that you visit one of the more popular clubs / bars to take advantage of some non-pro girls. Old School Pub

www.ospub.ru

will be loaded with horny drunk girls as will the newly opened location of Papas

www.papas.ru

Thursday is also Ladies Night so there are sure to be lots and lots of girls. NOTE: Papas moved from it's old location on Myasnitskaya to the new location at Nikolskaya #10 (formerly the location of Club Pacha.

DavidVanSchuma

10-29-13, 07:55

Fun experience all in all as never been to a brothelIMHO it is often like this, simply a waste of money and not enjoyable. The girls can tell if you are a noob and can be taken advantage of. It's best to play powerful once they are ready in the room, like don't ask anything. Simply take them and get going. I lost my virginity in a brothel at 15, I'm still not sure how I managed to pull that off, maybe because I went through pubity quite young but most likely because I had the cash in hand but it was actually a good experience. I only visit very occasionally now a days, in my early 20's I went back to my original brothel and by chance took the same lady who I saw when 15, though I didn't bring this up. But now generally only visit thai massage places because I'm just looking to relax and be massaged. On the occasions that I go, it is usually with high hopes and leave disappointed. For me it is simply a bad habit like drinking too much and feeling hung over the next day with regrets. This is the major reason I was simply dating Russian devs when I was there recently but also because I gain the most pleasure from fucking knowing that the other person is really enjoying it and I simply find it difficult if money has changed hands.

Though given limited time and that every man should fuck a Russian beauty at least once in his life, brothels are a good option.

Werspe

10-30-13, 14:46

Samsungskruf

10-31-13, 00:11

Hi,

Is the profiles on rusprostitute. Com / legit or is it mostly scams?

Jake993

10-31-13, 05:23

Hi Guys,

I am coming to Moscow for 2 days. What is the best recommendation to meet a girl for the entire day / night? Websites are good, but would prefer actual experience if possible.

I only speak English.

Thanks!

JayJay,

If you only have two days, then you need to make them count. If you don't want to invest the time cultivating a web relationship with a girl (like our hero YummyPL) , then you choices are limited. I would suggest you get your ass to Night Flight at about 23:00 on the day you arrive, skip the restaurant and go straight to the bar and start negotiating. A lot of these girls are still students meaning they speak English and have flexible schedules that will allow them to stay with you. *But BE WARNED! A lot of these girls are crafty and will want to slip out the door after a few pops from you. Be explicit about how long you want them to stay and be prepared to pay for their time. Get it out on the table up front and you will probably avoid being pissed off later.

Good luck!

Jake

Jake993

10-31-13, 12:12

Hi,

Is the profiles on rusprostitute. Com / legit or is it mostly scams?Seems Legit. I say so for two reasons. First, because several of these girls are on other sites that I KNOW are legit and second, because I have actually been with one of them on this site.

So there you go.

Have fun.

Stravinsky

10-31-13, 19:41

*But BE WARNED! A lot of these girls are crafty and will want to slip out the door after a few pops from you. Be explicit about how long you want them to stay and be prepared to pay for their time. Get it out on the table up front and you will probably avoid being pissed off later.Werspe,

Normally, I always recommend to stay away from Night Flight. If you want to go there to window shop then by all means, knock yourself out, but buy your sex somewhere else.

In this case, Jake is right. If you only have 2 nights in Moscow and you only speak English, then Night Flight is pretty much your (gulp) best choice. Negotiating with the NF fairies is a bit of Faustian proposition, so you had best gird your loins and be prepared for battle.

Three things to remember...

1) Be specific. One of the ploys of the Night Flight dyevchyonki is to promise you everything and deliver nothing. Be very specific about the services you expect from the girl you are negotiating with. Every detail should be spelled out clearly and make sure she understands and agrees. If you want your BJ without a condom, make sure that's clear. If you want more than one pop, or multiple positions, or a certain amount of time, make sure all of these demands are fully stated, understood and agreed to by the girl, before you leave the club.

2) Price. Another ploy of the dyevchyonki at NF is to play the currency shell game. Most Russians are natural FX traders. There are 3 curriencies in common use in Russia; the Ruble, Dollar and Euro. Russians know the exchange rate for each, and every day they make dozens of calculations about each currency in the course of their daily lives. You won't beat them at this game. So, before you go, decide how much money you are willing to spend and what the amount is in each currency. Before you leave the club, make sure that not only the price is fixed, but also the currency used for payment. Don't wait until the time comes to pay up, and the girl tells you,"Oh no... I did not say 300 Dollars, I said 300 Euros."

3) With the odd exception, the dyeffki at NF are hardened pros. They are there to extract the maximum amount of money from you for the least amount of effort. You are there to extract the maximum amount of sex for the least amount of money. Come to think of it, it's a little like being married. :o So, the only advantage you have is to keep your money in your pocket. Make it clear to the girl that you will not pay until after you are finished. If the girl agrees to stay overnight, then say,"Fine, I will pay you in the morning, when you leave." That should eliminate about 90% of the gold diggers and help you to find the one jem who just got off the bus, or the student who is just looking to make a little spending money.

BTW-- If it's possible, try to get everything you have agreed to in writing, preferably in blood. This is your best guarantee of success.

You think I'm joking, right? That's OK, keep laughing...

Jake993

11-01-13, 11:32

Negotiating with the NF fairies is a bit of Faustian proposition, so you had best gird your loins and be prepared for battle.Strav, stop it! You're killing me! Ha, ha, ha, ha.

But seriously you are spot on.

However, I do realize that it has been quite some time since you visited NF, correct? You should be aware that the "complexion" of the place has changed a little. Back in the day, EVERY dyev spoke near fluent English. Today, not so much. I was there a few months ago with a Moscow first timer business colleague and I was shocked at how many girls were there who did not speak more than a few words of English. The hardened pros were STILL there up to their old trick speaking near-flawless English, but the significant presence of girls who appeared to be fresh-off-the-bus led me to believe that there may be a few diamonds in the rough these days.

Having said all that, however, even if this new data of mine is true it does not really help our new fellow monger. He's best to follow your sage advice and "gird his loins"!

Stravinsky

11-01-13, 18:46

I was shocked at how many girls were there who did not speak more than a few words of English. The hardened pros were STILL there up to their old trick speaking near-flawless English, but the significant presence of girls who appeared to be fresh-off-the-bus led me to believe that there may be a few diamonds in the rough these days.Jake,

You're right, it's been a long time since I have crossed the threshold of NF, for all of the aforementioned reasons.

Sex should not be an adversarial relationship. Unless, of course, you're getting a divorce. I'm more like Iceberg-sit in a strip club, play the lazy boy and grab ass as it walks by. That's my idea of fun.

I suppose there is a sort of excitement in the challenge of venturing into NF and either, a) finding the one gem who, basically, doesn't know enough yet to know any better and taking her back to your apartment until morning for $300 (or Euros) or, b) beating the "sooki" at their own game. But is it really worth the effort? There's so many other productive endeavors you could be spending your time on in Moscow. At least, if you speak Russian.

So that's interesting about the Russian speaking dyeffki in NF. If that's the case and this is a trend, then NF will no longer be the no-brainer that it has always been. Are they still catering to foreign businessmen? Has the mission statement changed? Any ideas about why more of the women there are speaking Russian?

Jake993

11-02-13, 14:22

Jake,

So that's interesting about the Russian speaking dyeffki in NF. If that's the case and this is a trend, then NF will no longer be the no-brainer that it has always been. Are they still catering to foreign businessmen? Has the mission statement changed? Any ideas about why more of the women there are speaking Russian?Strav,

I think it all boils down to supply and demand. There is a much demand for pussy as there ever has been in Moscow. However, I think the supply of super hot English speaking young Russian girls willing too strip and hook is dwindling. NF makes money on booze and cover charge. If they have to "change" their standards to keep people coming in the door then that's what they will do. Having said that, I found the "fluent" English speakers to be a little too crass for my liking. There was an element of charm and the "illusion of innocence" that was missing. When people ask me if I speak Russian, I tell them I know enough to get into jail but not enough to get out! That means I can have a rudimentary conversation with a girl fresh-off-the-bus so I consider myself fortunate in that regard.

Incidentally, since breaking up with one of my regulars, I have been casting an eye towards picking up one nighters or even availing myself of a WG from time to time. Last night I was at a Halloween party in a local club when I was approached by not one but TWO rather fetching girls offering to come home with me for a threesome. So it's not just well established hooker bars like NF and Hot Dogs where you can get propositioned. It happens in well respectable bars and clubs as well. Just an FYI.

Skwiskwis

11-02-13, 17:32

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1491295]Strav,

"Last night I was at a Halloween party in a local club when I was approached by not one but TWO rather fetching girls offering to come home with me for a threesome."

Freebie threesome? All inclusive price? Or pay per sex act? And what exactly does the qualifier "rather" mean? Sort of fetching? Almost fetching? Not quite fetching? Or idiosyncratic jargon for very fetching? The devil is in the details.

I'd say the money issue is the biggest change happening in Russia, especially in the major cities. StPb, Moscow, Novosibirsk, etc. Or, rather, its already happened. Cities that attract both a lot of Russian and Russian Federation (who don't need visas) and W European and American sex tourists / businessmen. The fact is there are a lot of Russian and Russian Federation men, especially in Moscow and StPb now, with a lot of disposable income and, obviously, command of the language. There are more and more of them in the clubs and bars, more and more of them using the websites, and they are, frankly, the preferred option for most of the girls these days. And, really, they have more money to throw around then most of us, and, as diplomatically as possible, they are also often younger than us. They meet the girls at expensive restaurants, treat them to expensive meals, take them back to 5 Star hotels, and have a plate stacked full of white powder in their hotel room (with the line upon entering the room "Want something from room service? Order anything you want."). The days of Russian girls spying a European or American guy in a club and concluding he's a fine catch are long gone.

Unless, unless, as has been pointed out, you can linger in these cities, find the out of the way clubs and such, places off the beaten path, or make an excursion into the provinces, where life is very very different for Russians. The gap between urban Russian and rural Russian is huge, which is why posters here constantly refer to trying to find a girl 'just off the bus' from the provinces.

Stravinsky

11-02-13, 19:16

There are more and more of them in the clubs and bars, more and more of them using the websites, and they are, frankly, the preferred option for most of the girls these days. The days of Russian girls spying a European or American guy in a club and concluding he's a fine catch are long gone.Hmmm... have to disagree with you on that. Russian men have a certain way of treating their women, and no amount of money will ever change that. The interest of Russian women in Western men has always been about more than just money, or a Green Card. It's also about attitude and the way Western men treat women. And that part of the equation will never change, it will always be in our favor.

Unless, unless, as has been pointed out, you can linger in these cities, find the out of the way clubs and such, places off the beaten path, or make an excursion into the provinces, where life is very very different for Russians. The gap between urban Russian and rural Russian is huge, which is why posters here constantly refer to trying to find a girl 'just off the bus' from the provinces.Amen to that, brother, cannot be said enough. The Golden Age of mongering in Moscow is over, it's no longer a matter of shooting fish in a barrel. We have to dig a little deeper and work a little harder, but the rewards are there for those who are willing to make the effort.

YummyPL

11-03-13, 06:19

I'm sitting in the Swiss Air lounge at DMO waiting for my flight to Zurich connecting home to the USA.

Strav is absolutely correct when he says that you have to "dig a little deeper and work a little harder" if you want something more than expensive P4P. I just completed 8 days in Samara and another 8 in Moscow after literally hundreds of hours of pre-trip contact with my girls. It isn't easy but it can be very rewarding.

Moscow was a bit of a bust this trip but there were some new openings and some good prospects for the future. Samara was certainly a different experience and opened up some new possibilities.

As has been emphasized again and again by our esteemed friends here, if you want to enter the parallel universe that is hiding in Russia, learn some Russian, learn some Russian, learn some Russian.

Full reports to follow with pictures.)))

Jake993

11-05-13, 11:05

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1491295]Freebie threesome? All inclusive price? Or pay per sex act? And what exactly does the qualifier "rather" mean? Sort of fetching? Almost fetching? Not quite fetching? Or idiosyncratic jargon for very fetching? The devil is in the details.Let's call it Freebie threesome with "presents". I am SURE I could have gotten away without paying anything but it would not be polite. While these girls were not hardened pros, I could tell that they expected SOMETHING for their trouble. Had they been strictly pros money would have had to have been on the table before a stitch of clothing came off. These girls were more interested in drinking my whisky and eating my food than talking about money. It was only the next morning when they were preparing to leave did they embarrassingly ask about "little presents". They were delighted when I gave them 5, 000 rubles each.

Oh, and "rather fetching" in this case means it's my sarcastic way of saying they were pretty hot. Not 9's or 10's but certainly 7 or 8.

PololaPolo6

11-05-13, 21:02

Dear all,

I'm in my late 20's. I generally make the difference in club. And pulled out girl in most cities in the world. So I would like an advice. If I want to score a freebie. A girl who would be out for a one night stand. Which club do I go?

I don't necessarily want upscale stuff. A student is fine just a good looking Russian who speak English.

Thanks!

Jake993

11-06-13, 09:40

Guys, out of curiosity, are the girls over there stunning? And They all go by 300 $?Like every other place in the world, it's about supply and demand. Today, the more stunning the girl, the more expensive it is. There and many very stunning girls in Russia but these days not very many are working girls.

Jake993

11-06-13, 09:41

Jake993

11-07-13, 08:55

Thank you Jake!I was at the NEW Papas for a while last night. It is a HUGE improvement over the old place. Much roomier, cleaner and yet with the same "trashy" chic style. Wednesdays, the drinks are dirt cheap attracting all kinds of girls from the Universities. Target Rich Environment.

www.papas.ru

TranquilLife

11-11-13, 21:48

I'm staying at one of the 5* hotels in Moscow, and there are some very hot pros in the bar. Can someone give me an idea of the going rate? Online rate seems to be around $250 for a couple of hours (e. G.

www.rusdosug.com

A friend has told me the strip clubs are charging around $500, though he's not done it himself.

Razor

11-12-13, 03:39

TexasMorrell

11-12-13, 05:03

On my way back to home, I'll be in Moscow (airport- 1st time) for 17 Hrs. Need some suggestions in how to make more enjoyable this short time. First, some questions:

1. Do I need any visa to get into the city? (This is obvious, but maybe there is another option: transit-visa)

2. What is the cheapest way to get into the city? (train-bus? I could check google)

3. Mongering options? (I'll be from 5 PM thru 10 AM next day)

Thanks for any help.

RazorYes you need a visa and you must apply for the visa in your home country. You cannot apply for it at the airport or in another country you are visiting. You can apply for a visa extension while in Russia but not the original.

Stravinsky

11-12-13, 05:29

On my way back to home, I'll be in Moscow (airport- 1st time) for 17 Hrs. Need some suggestions in how to make more enjoyable this short time.RazorIf you do not already have a visa to enter the RF, then you will not be allowed to leave the transit area of the airport. Say Hi to Eddie for me, if you happen to run into him.

Sleep tight...

Jake993

11-12-13, 06:04

If you do not already have a visa to enter the RF, then you will not be allowed to leave the transit area of the airport. Say Hi to Eddie for me, if you happen to run into him.

Sleep tight.Strav is right. Without a visa, you will not be permitted to leave the airport. HOWEVER, there has been a proposed amendment before the State Duma which proposes that "in transit" travelers be permitted to remain in Moscow for up to 3 days WITHOUT a visa! Unfortunately Razor, this will be of no use to you this time. Which airport are you going through? DME, SVO, or VNK? DME allows you to wander the airport and does not restrict you to the transit area anymore. It also has a few decent restaurants and an Irish Pub on the ground level. The problem is going to be paying for anything unless you have Rubles. There SHOULD be a currency exchange you can have access to plus there are several duty free stores you can visit. They all will take credit cards. The other two I am not so familiar with the transit arrangements. As far as monger action goes, your options are "zilch" unless you can get lucky with a fellow traveler in the bathroom. Sorry dude.

BTW. Eddie has been gone from SVO for a while now. He has been spotted around town here and there but has made himself pretty scarce in someone's dacha.

YG365

11-12-13, 08:54

On my way back to home, I'll be in Moscow (airport- 1st time) for 17 Hrs. Need some suggestions in how to make more enjoyable this short time. First, some questions:

1. Do I need any visa to get into the city? (This is obvious, but maybe there is another option: transit-visa)

2. What is the cheapest way to get into the city? (train-bus? I could check google)

3. Mongering options? (I'll be from 5 PM thru 10 AM next day)

Thanks for any help.

Razor1. Yes, you do need a visa to get into Russia! I've read it can take several weeks to get a visa and even after that, you could still run into problems.

2. Depends on what part of the city you'd like to go?

3. Depends on your budget, taste, etc.

Razor

11-13-13, 00:31

It seems like I'll be spending the whole time in the airport area (BTW is the SVO) , it's just too much trouble to get in the city for such short time. I'll try to get back here next summer.

Strav, I'll promise to say hello to Eddie, if I find him.

Best Regards

R.

Strav is right. Without a visa, you will not be permitted to leave the airport. HOWEVER, there has been a proposed amendment before the State Duma which proposes that "in transit" travelers be permitted to remain in Moscow for up to 3 days WITHOUT a visa! Unfortunately Razor, this will be of no use to you this time. Which airport are you going through? DME, SVO, or VNK? DME allows you to wander the airport and does not restrict you to the transit area anymore. It also has a few decent restaurants and an Irish Pub on the ground level. The problem is going to be paying for anything unless you have Rubles. There SHOULD be a currency exchange you can have access to plus there are several duty free stores you can visit. They all will take credit cards. The other two I am not so familiar with the transit arrangements. As far as monger action goes, your options are "zilch" unless you can get lucky with a fellow traveler in the bathroom. Sorry dude.

BTW. Eddie has been gone from SVO for a while now. He has been spotted around town here and there but has made himself pretty scarce in someone's dacha.

TranquilLife

11-17-13, 21:01

Called up many girls on Rusudog. Com. Eventually got through to Sasha. Website says she's in her 20s. More like in her 40s. Reasonable shag, but I couldn't be arsed, so told her to leave.

Cucumber

11-24-13, 02:12

I hit the salon Dolce Vita again a few times a few weeks ago. The experience was similar to those I have had there in the past. Now there seemed to be a slightly better ratio of girls to customers, but also a bit more upselling. On one occasion I had a lineup of 12-14 girls to choose from. Compared to the more upmarket places it is cheaper, not very well managed, a bit chaotic, the shower is a bit trashy and the girls can be maverick. Or wonderful. It can be a very fun playground to try out the different girls.

Stylish Man 17

11-24-13, 16:12

I tried the salon Dolce Vita last week.

It turned out the entrance was a door at the bottom of a small staircase right of a street (I. E. No podezd etc.). It is the far left end of the corner building marked red on the map on their website, Bolshaya Dorogomilovskaya Ulitsa 5. The door is ten meters up from a shop that sells Indian spices.

On the other hand, if you can just find the entrance, you don't need to go in multiple doors, ring door bells, go up multiple floors etc.

Hi cucumber. Thanks for the report. Sounds interesting and I'm keen to try my luck in this place. Just a few questions.

Can you show up at the place you have mentioned without ringing beforehand? If I find the door you are talking about, I can just walk in or something? And in theory, is it 3000RUB for full services? Or extra money for sex, BBBJ etc?

I usually go to somewhere a bit further up the road at Kutosovsky Prospect 22 which I think is linked to eromassage. Ru. You can only get an erotic massage there. Basically, the masseuse is naked, gives you a massage, rubs her body on you and finishes with a HJ, although 2 have allowed DATY before. The cost is 2500RUB for an hour, which now seems expensive if you can get full srvices for 3000RUB at Dolce Vita. Perhaps other members have been to the place I am describing and have managed to negotiate more services? I've been 7 or 8 times now and never got more than a HJ though. PM me for specific details if you want.

James 006

12-07-13, 01:58

Jake993

12-09-13, 05:19

This is a fantasy I was thinking about.

I have a stop in the airport from 05. 00 in the morning until 13. 00 in about a week from now.

I could get a visa for some fun, but will I reach a strip club before closing if I arrive in the airport so early? I could book a transit hotell and sleep, or if possible get an escort. I would like to have some action. Anyone with a suggestion? Did anyone ever had a session with a girl somewhere in the airport?Dude. It will be a close one. Most of the mainstream strip clubs with sex on the premises close about 6:00 AM. Of course, there are always exceptions but are you willing to take the chance? I would say that your best bet is to find a hotel at the airport (BTW. Which airport? SVO, DME, VKO?) and see if you can arrange something in advance with a girl from.

www.rusdosug.com.

But again, if you were a working girl, would you come to a hotel at the airport at 6:00 AM to meet a guy you don't know? Good luck!

Dash Riprock

12-10-13, 07:20

Called up many girls on Rusudog. Com. Eventually got through to Sasha. Website says she's in her 20s. More like in her 40s. Reasonable shag, but I couldn't be arsed, so told her to leave.They all smoke and drink heavily, many do not age well because of it.

Jake993

12-10-13, 09:13

They all smoke and drink heavily, many do not age well because of it.Ha ha ha, you just described 80% of the Russian population!

Jonners

12-10-13, 14:00

They all smoke and drink heavily, many do not age well because of it.Not sure it is the smoking and drinking that causes them to age badly. In my opinion mostly for Russian girls it's the getting fat at 30 that causes them to age badly and I put this down to smothering their food with mayonnaise and also all the fast food they now eat

Jake993

12-11-13, 06:36

Not sure it is the smoking and drinking that causes them to age badly. In my opinion mostly for Russian girls it's the getting fat at 30 that causes them to age badly and I put this down to smothering their food with mayonnaise and also all the fast food they now eatYeah, that's a REALLY interesting question. In their 20's they ALL eat cakes and sweets and it does not seem to affect them. But at 30, all of sudden it's someone pulls a ripcord and then "vhoom". Now, this is a terrible generalization because I know plenty of Russian women in their 30's and even 40's who keep slim and trim. But these seem to be from a particular genetic group being really small boned. I think the give away is the legs. If you see skinny ankles and slim thighs, she going to to keep slim. But if she's got chubby ankles and generous thighs, watch out. Ha, ha. Funny how this thread went from health to spotting fat chicks.

Member #2096

12-11-13, 23:27

Jake993

12-12-13, 06:06

Hi,

Hot Dogs used to be one of my favorite bars. Now unfortunately it is closed. What happened to the bar. Where did all the girls go.

The Real Mccoy also closed so another favorite bar gone.

Che is impossible to get in let's say after 10:00-11:00 in the evening so forget this place. Seems that Moscow is getting boring to go out.Moscow boring? Please. You're just getting lazy. Plenty of replacement places to go of equal or better quality if you just read the forum! Just depends what you are looking for. For non-pros, a few off the top are Old School Pub, the NEW Papas Place (where Club Pacha used to be). Kukle Pistoleta (Dolls with Guns) near metro Mendeleyevskaya and The Standard. And there is a new place opening up this weekend called Beavers2 which is a Hooter's knock off. The list goes on and on so please don't tell us Moscow is getting boring.

If you are looking for a Hooker Bar like Hot Dogs used to be you will be a little disappointed. This kind of bar has gone underground lately with the exception of Night Flight. Having said that, if you go into almost ANY bar in Moscow after 23:00 and look for the girls hanging around the bar, you will find working girls.

Stravinsky

12-12-13, 16:58

Seems that Moscow is getting boring to go out.... being bored is an insult to oneself. -- Jules Renard

There are no boring cities, only boring mongers. -- Stravinsky

Jake993

12-13-13, 14:05

. Being bored is an insult to oneself. . Jules Renard.

There are no boring cities, only boring mongers. . StravinskyAnother place that become VERY good for picking up non-pro girls is Life Pub.

http://lifepub.ru/

It's near metro Baumanskaya. Very good place on Friday nights. Good crowd and lots of girls. Good band most weekends. Good dance floor and DJ after the band.

There always seems to be a lot of girls there either celebrating a birthday or some such other occasion. And generally not may foreigners which IMHO is a good thing when trying pick up local girls.

Borning indeed. Was this your plan all along? Get me pissed off so that I would tell you all my secret places? Ha ha ha

Stravinsky

12-13-13, 19:28

Borning indeed. Was this your plan all along? Get me pissed off so that I would tell you all my secret places? Ha ha haJake,

Not at all, I was responding to Member #2096. But if the unintended result was to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off and incite you to reveal the location of your secret places, then, so much the better! :)

Iceberg27

12-13-13, 19:42

Jake993

12-15-13, 09:27

Why don't you start warming up yourself with a dinner on Milwyn Restaurant on Novvy Arbat?

Trust me you wouldn't be regretfull.

Wish to be there instead of getting bored here in.Icberg,

I am ashamed to admit that I DO NOT know this restaurant called Milwyn on Novy Arbat.

Where exactly is it? Do you have the house number. I would like to try it.

It's hard to keep up with all of the new restaurants in Moscow but I am trying!

Iceberg27

12-16-13, 17:30

icberg,

i am ashamed to admit that i do not know this restaurant called milwyn on novy arbat.

where exactly is it? do you have the house number. i would like to try it.

it's hard to keep up with all of the new restaurants in moscow but i am trying!jake. if i am not wrong it should be one of these two.

you will understand that you are in right place when you see the high-school uniform [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) waitresses.

they have a striptease and dancing show every 20 mins.

enjoy it.

hamburger was terrible but i am sure rest of the menu is nice.

i miss the smoked salmons in moscow and the beatiful legs servicing it. anyway. wait for winter ends.

regards

Kiev Freak

12-17-13, 00:16

It is possible to pick up girls from " Milwyn Restaurant" on "Novvy Arbat"? Or just eye candy? For a foreigner doesn't speak Russian?

Iceberg27

12-17-13, 19:51

It is possible to pick up girls from " Milwyn Restaurant" on "Novvy Arbat"? Or just eye candy? For a foreigner doesn't speak Russian?Normally it's not possible.

But I had some good vibes from the whiskie girl who has amazing legs. So briefly it depends on your flirting skills.

Skwiskwis

12-17-13, 22:55

"good vibes". Does this mean she smiled at you? Gave you her phone number? Accepted an invitation to meet you after work or what?

Normally it's not possible.

But I had some good vibes from the whiskie girl who has amazing legs. So briefly it depends on your flirting skills.

Jake993

12-18-13, 08:38

jake. if i am not wrong it should be one of these two.

you will understand that you are in right place when you see the high-school uniform [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) waitresses.

they have a striptease and dancing show every 20 mins.

enjoy it.

hamburger was terrible but i am sure rest of the menu is nice.

i miss the smoked salmons in moscow and the beatiful legs servicing it. anyway. wait for winter ends.

regardsha ha ha ha! that's molly gwinn's pub! on the right hand side. on the left is shesh besh which is a kebab place.

true, on thursday nights they have a "belly dancers" that perform every 20 minutes. which is kinda fun. as for the waitresses, beware! while they are all cute and will flirt a little several of them have boyfriends who are face control at molly gwinn's who don't appreciate you hitting on their chicks.

Ricardo Cabro

12-18-13, 22:31

Hi,

Hot Dogs used to be one of my favorite bars. Now unfortunately it is closed. What happened to the bar. Where did all the girls go.

The Real Mccoy also closed so another favorite bar gone.

Che is impossible to get in let's say after 10:00-11:00 in the evening so forget this place. Seems that Moscow is getting boring to go out.I went to Hot Dogs on Sunday 8th December and was surprised to find it closed. Always had a love hate relationship with the place, but usually had fun there. I called an old GF from Hot Dogs and she told me that all the girls are moving to Concert. Which is about 200m furher along the road (same side) as HD. Apparently there was trouble with the mamochka not paying the police their cut from the girls' 2000rub exit fee. Not sure if the police closed it, or if its going to be redeveloped (which was mooted a few years ago).

Its true that lots of Moscow institiutions that were expat friendly have closed (started with the Exile IMHO) but there are still thousands of unexplored and unreported bars and clubs full of what we're all looking for. Just got to be brave and get stuck in.

Hasta la victoria siempre. RC.

Jake993

12-19-13, 08:48

I went to Hot Dogs on Sunday 8th December and was surprised to find it closed. Always had a love hate relationship with the place, but usually had fun there. I called an old GF from Hot Dogs and she told me that all the girls are moving to Concert. Which is about 200m furher along the road (same side) as HD. Apparently there was trouble with the mamochka not paying the police their cut from the girls' 2000rub exit fee. Not sure if the police closed it, or if its going to be redeveloped (which was mooted a few years ago).

Its true that lots of Moscow institiutions that were expat friendly have closed (started with the Exile IMHO) but there are still thousands of unexplored and unreported bars and clubs full of what we're all looking for. Just got to be brave and get stuck in.

Hasta la victoria siempre. RC.I REMEMBER Concert! I have fond memories about getting a BJ in the bathroom there in 2006! Thanks for the heads-up!

Leggio1

12-19-13, 16:39

Its true that lots of Moscow institiutions that were expat friendly have closed (started with the Exile IMHO) but there are still thousands of unexplored and unreported bars and clubs full of what we're all looking for. Just got to be brave and get stuck in.Hey buddy,

Let's be truthful about Moscow. Starting about four years ago, the culture turned toxic towards foreigners. If you have true business purposes in the city, by all means go explore. Otherwise, just don't come here. Nothing but an isolated island of people that don't like you and it's going to get worse with this dictator.

Ricardo Cabro

12-19-13, 19:18

Hey buddy,

Let's be truthful about Moscow. Starting about four years ago, the culture turned toxic towards foreigners. If you have true business purposes in the city, by all means go explore. Otherwise, just don't come here. Nothing but an isolated island of people that don't like you and it's going to get worse with this dictator.Hey Leggio, your view is a tad jaundiced. I've never experienced any toxic behavior and I've made 50+ visits to Moscow in the last 12 years. Its true that foreigners aren't the great catch they used to be, but that doesn't mean that the girls don't appreciate good fun, good humour, good manners and good sex. Moscovites are generally helpful and inquisitive and they love to have fun. I've had my fair share of GF's and PFP and no real bad experiences. And the girls' attitude to sex is much healthier than in many other countries. I've even shared a bottle of vodka with a police captain after being taken in for a 'problem' with my visa. Its all about attitude. If you go to Moscow with the view that its toxic and nobody likes you. Then that's probably what you'll find. History has a tendency to repeat itself, and Moscow was whole lot more fun under stricter state control than in the last few years of "democracy", so President P maybe doing us all a favour)

Stravinsky

12-19-13, 19:57

If you go to Moscow with the view that its toxic and nobody likes you. Then that's probably what you'll find. History has a tendency to repeat itself, and Moscow was whole lot more fun under stricter state control than in the last few years of "democracy", so President P maybe doing us all a favourAbsolutely spot-on, cannot be said enough. Something else that cannot be said enough is that if you speak a little Russian, all kinds of doors will be open to you.

Iceberg27

12-20-13, 00:35

Ha ha ha ha! That's Molly Gwinn's Pub! On the right hand side. On the left is Shesh Besh which is a Kebab place.

True, on Thursday nights they have a "belly dancers" that perform every 20 minutes. Which is kinda fun. As for the waitresses, beware! While they are all cute and will flirt a little several of them have boyfriends who are face control at Molly Gwinn's who don't appreciate you hitting on their chicks.Guys you know I am not so good reading cyrillic. BTW stoppped studying Russian. Usually you have a great motivation when you already turn back from EE and after a time you loose it because you don't need it in your own country.

I believe picking up a girl from such places depends on your choice of the true target with true strategies and of course with your looking and age. I have to admit that I was 12-13 years older than the girls there and I was just mindblowed with one of 20 s legs. She was friendly but didn't accept my offer for going to havana club together.

Jake, working girls guys ratio was at least 5 to 1 there so it s impossible that all of them has a bf there. But I also have to say that whiskie girl I try to pick up, left the restaurant with 4 other girls and 2 young guys probably from outside.

Uncle Volodya

12-20-13, 07:54

Jake993

12-20-13, 08:08

Uncle Volodya

12-20-13, 08:37

In my personal opinion, Mamba is a waste of time for meeting girls in Moscow. It used to be good some years ago but now it seems that it is frequented more often now by Hookers and scam artists. You are not alone in your experience.Thanks man. I will keep trying for a while with the 2-3 girls I am in contact with and seem legit.

I may also take up oen of these P4Pers eventually. Though I am scared of ending up in an iced up bath tub missing a kidney. LOL.

I will try and hit Concert and a few other places tonight and will post my experiences.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V

Chercheur

12-20-13, 11:49

I know you guys may excoriate me for posting this here and not in the internet dating thread, but there is not a lot of info there about using Mamba to hook up in Moscow. Most of the discussions are about using it in the provinces.

I've been on for about a week with very little success. I am chatting regularly with some girls but so far no one has agreed to meet up. (I did have one meeting lined up but the girl cancelled because she said she had a temperature. Yeah right!).

I have ben getting a lot of offers form girls who want to meet up for cash. They are asking anywhere form 3k to 10 k. I've avoided this as I am worried about the old bait and switch with the fotos (or worse). Does anyone have any experience with this?

Maybe I'm just wasting my time on Mamba? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-VI have used mamba a lot in Moscow, and I have been very happy with it.

But I always pay (3 to 10 K)! First because there is no other way, second because then I am free to do what I want.

I have met a lot of girls, many of them are very attractive and sexy (the "individual" do not cheat so much with the photos, only a little about their age) , many times we had passionate sex.

Some of them were really hookers, but most of them, and I try to spot them, were girls having a normal life, a normal job, some even had husband they live with.

Some of them I choose to meet again and we have entered in a "friendship" relation. And if ever I wanted, some of the relations could be tighten. On top of that, one of them took me to group sex parties and next summer I plan to drive one of them (with her car) from Moscow to the Caspian sea.

Is there a better way that mamba to visit the country?

Now If you don't want to pay and you don't learn Russian, there is nothing mamba can do for you.

Uncle Volodya

12-20-13, 15:26

I have used mamba a lot in Moscow, and I have been very happy with it.

But I always pay (3 to 10 K)! First because there is no other way, second because then I am free to do what I want.

I have met a lot of girls, many of them are very attractive and sexy (the "individual" do not cheat so much with the photos, only a little about their age) , many times we had passionate sex.

Some of them were really hookers, but most of them, and I try to spot them, were girls having a normal life, a normal job, some even had husband they live with.

Some of them I choose to meet again and we have entered in a "friendship" relation. And if ever I wanted, some of the relations could be tighten. On top of that, one of them took me to group sex parties and next summer I plan to drive one of them (with her car) from Moscow to the Caspian sea.

Is there a better way that mamba to visit the country?

Now If you don't want to pay and you don't learn Russian, there is nothing mamba can do for you.Thanks man. I really appreciate you sharing your experience.

I don't mind to pay and my Russian is pretty good, just below fluent.

I was just worried that these were all scams and that I would end up having a horrible time.

So do you look for the girls that say they are looking for a sponsor? How do you tell which girls are part timers? (that would be golden!) By the quality of the photos (some are just too much out of a men's magazine).

Thanks in advance!

And stay horny my friend.

Uncle V

Stravinsky

12-20-13, 19:19

Guys you know I am not so good reading cyrillic. BTW stoppped studying Russian. Usually you have a great motivation when you already turn back from EE and after a time you loose it because you don't need it in your own country.This reminds me of the story about the man who could never fix the leak in his roof. In the summer, when the weather was good, there was no reason to. And in the winter, when it rained, it was too wet to get up there and do it. ;)

Iceberg27

12-20-13, 19:33

This reminds me of the story about the man who could never fix the leak in his roof. In the summer, when the weather was good, there was no reason to. And in the winter, when it rained, it was too wet to get up there and do it. ;)Strav,

This is a good story for explaining the situation. But I must tell you I am too much busy with Turkish girls here. I am in between two circumstances; To solve nose up-extremely selective- Turkish women character or get lost in Russian grammar.

Cheers.

Leggio1

12-21-13, 00:17

Moscow girls are a lot smarter these days. Your Rolex watch or shoes won't do the trick. A little bit of language is great but what you really need is some kind of job that ties to city. Something that introduces them to new and better people they normally would not meet. Something good, like a banker, now that would really open doors.

Ricardo Cabro

12-21-13, 00:24

Something else that cannot be said enough is that if you speak a little Russian, all kinds of doors will be open to you.Too true Strav. My last visit was for intensive Russian lessons. I'm still fairly hopeless (hard to teach an old dog new tricks) but I'm trying to learn and all my "GF's" think its great that I'm taking lessons. And they really want to help me practice Russian.

Stravinsky

12-21-13, 01:22

But I must tell you I am too much busy with Turkish girls here. I am in between two circumstances; To solve nose up-extremely selective- Turkish women character or get lost in Russian grammar.Grammar? Who needs grammar? This is not rocket science. Not necessary to read Tolstoy or quote from Pushkin.

This is what you do. . .

Learn to recognize and pronounce the Cyrillic alphabet,

Learn some basic conversational phrases like,"How are you?","I am fine","What is you name?","Can I cum in your mouth?", (just joking)

Learn how to conjugate some basic verbs like,"I want", or "I need",

Learn how to count,

Learn to tell time,

And you're set.

Too true Strav. My last visit was for intensive Russian lessons. I'm still fairly hopeless (hard to teach an old dog new tricks) but I'm trying to learn and all my "GF's" think its great that I'm taking lessons. And they really want to help me practice Russian.This is a perfect example of what Gergiev said: you don't want to ever get too good at speaking Russian. If you speak the language perfectly, then you become just another Russian man, and there are plenty of those. You want to maintain an endearing kind of ineptness that elicits the sympathy of the dyevchyonki.

Sounds like it's working for you.

DavidVanSchuma

12-21-13, 11:32

I know you guys may excoriate me for posting this here and not in the internet dating thread, but there is not a lot of info there about using Mamba to hook up in Moscow. Most of the discussions are about using it in the provinces.

I've been on for about a week with very little success. I am chatting regularly with some girls but so far no one has agreed to meet up. (I did have one meeting lined up but the girl cancelled because she said she had a temperature. Yeah right!).

I have ben getting a lot of offers form girls who want to meet up for cash. They are asking anywhere form 3k to 10 k. I've avoided this as I am worried about the old bait and switch with the fotos (or worse). Does anyone have any experience with this?

Maybe I'm just wasting my time on Mamba? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-VYou probably read a few of my posts about mamba. The only advice I can give is that you will be rewarded for time and effort and more time and even more effort. It's probably easier in Moscow to find English speaking girls so mamba is not so essential, but out in the provinces it would have taken more wasted time trying to find these girls on street, bars, clubs. Then once you find one on mamba, you still need to take time and more time until they are willing.

My most successful place was a particular English language school for finding a classroom full of attractive girls who spoke English, and wanted some 'private' lessons. The only thing I can advise is to think outside the box. However, I've always found language classes full of girls and a good place to meet them with the exception of my Russian class now. It's just guys with the same motive as me. .

In the meantime I've been taking some Russian classes back in the west.

Leggio1

12-21-13, 16:33

In the meantime I've been taking some Russian classes back in the west.Rosetta Stone with a good verb book is dollar for dollar the best if you want to learn Russian. Don't go into a Russian class green, it's expensive and you will learn little.

Bruno750

12-22-13, 15:27

Russia was probably an interesting place Sometimes ago for the punters it is not anymore the place, It is close to be funny. Foreigners not welcome and worst in small city. Couple of hours of vb kontact and mamba for nothing since the girls do not want to make effort, more and more scam, girl sick the day of the meeting (3 times. 3 different girls). Then now it is necessary to speak Russian to be punter in Russia. The point is like that now they have development or let say they can make credit to bank and they have in their place enough to be happy. They are not waiting anymore for you and you waste your time here. So forget the beautiful girl easy to get for foreigner. The last point, on, why they are fat after 30 years old, seen on that forum a couple of time, that's simple, they drink like a man! . After in club, yes you can get but nothing is now not different than Paris or London. To summarise, Russia become boring on punter way. I did not come here for 3 days and I am expatriate. One point more, they are still easy girl, but they are black. Do not see judgement but it is a fact if you come with your dream of tall blond for the night, be aware they have been replaced at work.

Leggio1

12-22-13, 18:19

Jorge Rad10

12-22-13, 20:48

I was seeing myself heading to Night Flight last night to see why this place is so famous. Dining at the restaurant, food is OK, I'm not a picky eater but for those who expect more it would be a huge disappointment. But I didn't go for the food of course, I got down to the bar, to see the girls, to be impartial with what I saw, a lot of 5's. 6's maybe one 8, but no more that that, staying there because I want to have fun by all means, approach to some girls, but they were so expensive 500 USD for normal sex WTF! I got used to the Brazilian style "Completa " girlfriend style I think. To be honest I found girls better shape in other countries and paying for 1 hour of normal sex with a devushka is just not fair, trying to bargain a bit but didn't work. So decided to have more Black Russians, anchor at the bar. One girl came and ask for a cognac, she was a 6 or 7, but she was wearing normal clothes, I liked her attitude, very casual, not as the other professionals, talk a bit but unfortunately she wasn't good in English, she said sorry and turn to drink her cognac and smoke. An hour ago went by, drank my last vodka and was heading to the exit door, suddenly I saw that girl again, sitting on the sofas, I asked she if her mobile could translate Russian to English and she said yes, beginning of the conversation was as usual, but then I was touching and kissing her, more minutes of silly conversation and decided to take her to my apartment, for 2 hours. Taxi driver got lost for half hour I think damn. But in the meantime I was warming her up, she looked surprise to my initiative. We got my apartment and started a wild session of sex, she was on fire, kissing as a girlfriend and even when she said anal wasn't included she accepted after some fingers slip in her pink tunel. It was great experience, she tried to please me in every moment. She stayed more than two hours, finally around 9 am she decided to dress up again and take a cab. I could see she wasn't a sex professional as the other girls of the club, she wanted to fuck and have fun also. Unfortunately she will leave to Uzbekistan next Wednesday, otherwise I would have met her again.

Having fun in Moscow in winter is not bad idea after all.

Jens

YummyPL

12-23-13, 00:09

Leggio1

12-23-13, 05:21

I was seeing myself heading to Night Flight last night to see why this place is so famous. Dining at the restaurant, food is OK, I'm not a picky eater but for those who expect more it would be a huge disappointment. But I didn't go for the food of course, I got down to the bar, to see the girls, to be impartial with what I saw, a lot of 5's. 6's maybe one 8, but no more that that, staying there because I want to have fun by all means, approach to some girls, but they were so expensive 500 USD for normal sex WTF! I got used to the Brazilian style "Completa " girlfriend style I think. To be honest I found girls better shape in other countries and paying for 1 hour of normal sex with a devushka is just not fair, trying to bargain a bit but didn't work. So decided to have more Black Russians, anchor at the bar. One girl came and ask for a cognac, she was a 6 or 7, but she was wearing normal clothes, I liked her attitude, very casual, not as the other professionals, talk a bit but unfortunately she wasn't good in English, she said sorry and turn to drink her cognac and smoke. An hour ago went by, drank my last vodka and was heading to the exit door, suddenly I saw that girl again, sitting on the sofas, I asked she if her mobile could translate Russian to English and she said yes, beginning of the conversation was as usual, but then I was touching and kissing her, more minutes of silly conversation and decided to take her to my apartment, for 2 hours. Taxi driver got lost for half hour I think damn. But in the meantime I was warming her up, she looked surprise to my initiative...The problem with night flight is that many of the girls are brought there by the boyfriend. They are robotically programmed to get your money, have sex, and leave. It's an outrageous amount of money that will serve you no better than an FKK girl. This is really an option for the Russian guys that can stay in control and be very clear as to what they expect.

Jake993

12-23-13, 06:37

It seems we have many pessimists in our midsts. All, if you are willing to do a little work before you arrive and are not a total loser, Moscow is still a potential gold mine. Jake and others here can tell you, I am not at all pretty (and neither is he) but we do pretty well for ourselves. It takes a lot of work, but the reward of having very attractive girls in their 20s going after old men like us (40s and 50s) is still a very realistic goal. Keep the faith and do the work.Hey! I AM pretty. (Ha, ha, NOT) I am in total agreement. You have to make an investment of time to get anything back. Moscow is a big city with all kinds of people. Is it the punter paradise it once was? Not even close. But for those of us who live here for business reasons, there's plenty of distractions to keep us occupied.