Moscow

[Cucumber]

I once posted a question here about large labia. As far as I remember, I got no responses. Well now it seems I may be onto a sollution. Rusdosug has its own forum for women with large labia and people looking for them. If you never hear from me again it may be because I have suffocated between some very large labia. I wish.

http://www.rusdosug.com/forum_themes.php?forumid=7&index=0

I also found a new version of the map of service providers in Moscow. I find it very helpful. Just locate your hotel / apartment on the map and see what's on offer in your neighbourhood. Better than identifying fantastic ads for perfect girls who are three hours away, and then turn out to be false ads. The color coding is as follows:

- blue = salon.

- red = individualka (but some of them are probably actually salons, just registered as individualkas).

- purple = bdsm.

- yellow = massage (I guess in some cases may be regular salon or individualka).

- green = strip club.

http://www.rusdosug.com/interactive.php

Both websites are in Russian.

[WanderTheWorld]

Hi all,

(if your getting an escort during the summer in Moscow your insane, go to a park or a mall, or caf.).
The main reason for getting escorts would be what you wrote - "knowing no Russian you will have trouble".

What would you suggest that us -non Russian speakers- if we go to gorki park or any bar with no Russian friends? Should I also add that we have limited time (5 days) after 8 pm? I'm trying to say we are not insane, we just don't have time or knowledge for anything else.

[Putologist]

I'm trying to say we are not insane, we just don't have time or knowledge for anything else.I agree with you PLUS sometimes you simply don't know if the lady is pro or semi pro in such places like park, mall or caf. I don't know how Russian women would react with us making a "unmoral" offer, but in the Western world you got be very careful with what you say or do, otherwise it can be very dangerous if the woman is none of the above. I am not a fan of guessing games, so also I prefer to get things straight.

[JohnnyBcgn]

Hi folks,

Finally I am able to tell you about a very nice meeting in Moscow. It took me seven attempts to find a nice woman. I found her on mamba. Ru, unfortunately she deleted her profile there, due to an idiot who was constantly insulting her there. She did not allow me to take some photos, so I am not able to show her.

We met in the Interconti Hotel and immediately went to my room. She was very cute and quite shy, but it was nice to talk to her and her english was quite good. Before starting with some action, both of us took a shower (unfortunately separated). After the shower we went the bed and had a short chat. During the chat we started to touch each other and we began to kiss. From kissing we slide into some nice oral action and ended in 69. Her taste was great and so was her BJ. We did not count the minutes, but I think it was like 30 min only oral action, before we ended up in fucking. She pushed me backwards and started to ride me, the feeling was great. Her pussy felt very good and was quite narrow. She was moving her hips in a way that I could not resist any longer and filled the rubber.

After the first round we just lie on the bed relaxed a bit and had a nice conversation. After a couple of minutes the talked about some personal things in life, which lead again to some kissing action. Of course the 69 was happening again, which was again great. The second round of fucking started with some missionary, but soon we switched to doggy style. It was great to see her sweet ass (unfortunately no anal allowed) and feel her pussy. After some minutes she demand to ride me again, which I could not refuse. Short after she started to ride me I was already coming as the combination of her fucking, seeing her bald little pussy and sweet boobs was to good.

Hopefully I will meet her again, when I come to Moscow again.

Please do not ask for her number as she asked me not to provide her number in public.

KR,

Johnnyb

[BackToBass]

I once posted a question here about large labia. As far as I remember, I got no responses. Well now it seems I may be onto a sollution. Rusdosug has its own forum for women with large labia and people looking for them. If you never hear from me again it may be because I have suffocated between some very large labia. I wish.

http://www.rusdosug.com/forum_themes.php?forumid=7&index=0

I also found a new version of the map of service providers in Moscow. I find it very helpful. Just locate your hotel / apartment on the map and see what's on offer in your neighbourhood. Better than identifying fantastic ads for perfect girls who are three hours away, and then turn out to be false ads. The color coding is as follows:

- blue = salon.

- red = individualka (but some of them are probably actually salons, just registered as individualkas).

- purple = bdsm.

- yellow = massage (I guess in some cases may be regular salon or individualka).

- green = strip club.

http://www.rusdosug.com/interactive.php

Both websites are in Russian.Thanks a lot.

Its good to see what is around us in a trip.

[Cucumber]

Fantasys has been closed. Dolce Vita has also been closed, at least all three phone numbers listed on its websites are non-functional. (Anyone who knows otherwise, please let me know. I guess it could also just be something to do with August.).

Charmel is still in operation. Still 5000 RUR. Just the same experience it has been in the past: attractive, slightly educated girls; stately rooms rooms; meeting point at the Sberbank (see older posts).

Anyone who can recommend another good salon in Moscow or who knows anything about Dolce Vita?

[Belvaros]

I posted on the Sweden forums about my experiences with Sugar daddy dating websites across Europe and semi pro freebies or almost freebies. Anyway I notice after RTFF the last 20 pages here or so that some of the women from rosdosug are on the sugar baby / daddy website selling puxxy in London.

This young lady even uses her same "working" name and pitcures. Does anyone have experience with her.

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi178734.htm

Thanks and sorry to hijack the thread. I plan on coming to Moscow soon and will use recommendations from here.

All the best.

[Aoratos]

I must say that I have never been offered sex for money in Moscow, it is a special city full of girls that just want fun. Unlike Kiev and Petersburg it is a real place that is not rampant with sex adverts, the city is oddly known as a prostitution capital but in my opinion this is a lie. Yes, you can find escorts and paid girls, but unless you are looking for it or go to Soho or someplace like this than you will find normal girls for free. Also use mamba and badoo, get VIP and talk to all girls for at least a month before visiting the city. Ask them to walk with you and show you around.


I agree with you PLUS sometimes you simply don't know if the lady is pro or semi pro in such places like park, mall or caf. I don't know how Russian women would react with us making a "unmoral" offer, but in the Western world you got be very careful with what you say or do, otherwise it can be very dangerous if the woman is none of the above. I am not a fan of guessing games, so also I prefer to get things straight.Wandertheworld I suggest that you go at it alone, many girls are happy to practice English and offering a girl at gorky a tea or coffee together at the many places located at the park is a great step. My first trip 4 years ago as a tourist was solo, and I spoke no Russian. I had the best trip of my life.

If you will go talk to a girl, leave your friends to the side and go alone. Groups scare these girls.

[WebWerewolf]

I've taken a look through your notes and I believe you guys are mostly meeting ladies at salons and places like that located in the center or thereabout, which is fine when you are not short of cash. However, if your budget is a bit tighter, you could search for good deals outside of the third transport ring, that could save you a lot. A Russian speaker could be quite useful, however.

[Stravinsky]

However, if your budget is a bit tighter, you could search for good deals outside of the third transport ring, that could save you a lot.If your budget is tight, you're on the wrong continent.

[WebWerewolf]

If your budget is tight, you're on the wrong continent.Well actually I am having spent 2 years in Vietnam with far more hotties available for a cheaper price or without any money at all, I miss Asia.

[AZN Monger]

Well actually I am having spent 2 years in Vietnam with far more hotties available for a cheaper price or without any money at all, I miss Asia.Beauty is subjective. You cannot compare Asia to Europe. Besides, you are comparing a very impoverish country to a country that is flushed with oil money.

[Chercheur]

For me, in summertime, Moscow is the best place in the word:

A. Walking in the streets, you can see many very attractive girls with sexy and classy outfits.

Be. There are semi-pros, girls in their 30's or 40's, they have a job, some have one or two kids, some even have a husband, and they will come to your place and have sex with you for $300 (sometimes even for 5000 rubles which is $150).

Most of the girls I have met were attractive (6 to 9), some were highly educated, and I had sex with most of them like with a regular girlfriend as they are looking for their own pleasure as well as for your pleasure.

I had very few bad experiences; of course some happen to be real pros, and some where thinking they were very pretty, and that screws everything up.

Where else in the world can you find such a paradise?

[Suka Shalava]

If your budget is tight, you're on the wrong continent.Strav is right. Some of you youngsters in your 20's, 30's, and 40's can play the freebie game, using charm and alcohol consumption to chase the skirts to score on the cheap.

Some of us have left those decades behind, now realizing that patience and generosity is a better formula to meet the needs of sponsorettes.

The idea proposed that Russia is flush with oil money, does not translate to any real improvement in standard of living for the average citizen there. Higher salaries for normal jobs are equal to higher prices for food, clothing, rent, etc.

Its also a matter of taste and what a monger is comfortable with. There's no way to blend in, in Asia, if you aren't Asian. And Chercheur's revelation of available ladies in the 30-50 year age bracket, left out the entire population of ladies in their 20's, that are just as likely to need a sponsor, because the economy is not improving for them either.

The bottom line is, if you CAN afford it, AND the slavic culture is your preference, make the maximum investment that you can, and contribute to the economic advancement of a deserving population. Politics aside, your efforts have a good chance of creating good will in both directions.

[Putologist]

I must say that I have never been offered sex for money in Moscow, it is a special city full of girls that just want fun. This is maybe because you didn't visit the places they are used to hook. Or maybe they asked but you did not get it, because she did it indirectly.

Anyway I would say, I also used to visit the "wrong" areas myself in the past, the places where I visited there were more middle class / upper class intellectuals who spoke some English. Long conversations, litle sex.

I was able to sleep with Musicians and a lot of Economists (the Russian woman is known to be good in Math, Physics, etc. Compared to western women). This is nice, but I am not looking for a woman to marry (some of them misunderstand that), I am looking just for good time with a normal hot girl, not stupid but easier to deal with than those listed above. I my bed I'm not looking for a philosopher, not any more.

To marry I would choose one of those intellectuals, that kind who never asks for money.

[BackToBass]

This is maybe because you didn't visit the places they are used to hook. Or maybe they asked but you did not get it, because she did it indirectly.

Anyway I would say, I also used to visit the "wrong" areas myself in the past, the places where I visited there were more middle class / upper class intellectuals who spoke some English. Long conversations, litle sex.

I was able to sleep with Musicians and a lot of Economists (the Russian woman is known to be good in Math, Physics, etc. Compared to western women). This is nice, but I am not looking for a woman to marry (some of them misunderstand that), I am looking just for good time with a normal hot girl, not stupid but easier to deal with than those listed above. I my bed I'm not looking for a philosopher, not any more.

To marry I would choose one of those intellectuals, that kind who never asks for money.Hello W4 W,

Any advise to visiting places in Moscow? I like your point of view about where to go to find nice girls for sex. I know many high end places where you waste lot of money just for long long conversations. And I want to visit other kind of places.

[Putologist]

I like your point of view about where to go to find nice girls for sex. I know many high end places where you waste lot of money just for long long conversations. And I want to visit other kind of places.It depends on what exactly you are looking for. PM me for more details.

When I am in a hurry I do prefer salons (many entries here on this forum from other mongers as well). There is also a "sex" catalogue they use to put on cars, it is like a magazine but it contains hundreds of ads from pros, semi pros but also some fakes too.

Once I was close to Old Arbat I saw one of these dewushki Catalogue even on a parked police car (maybe somebody did as a joke).

[WanderTheWorld]

Wandertheworld I suggest that you go at it alone, many girls are happy to practice English and offering a girl at gorky a tea or coffee together at the many places located at the park is a great step. My first trip 4 years ago as a tourist was solo, and I spoke no Russian. I had the best trip of my life.

If you will go talk to a girl, leave your friends to the side and go alone. Groups scare these girls.I used to do that in my country when I was young and in several beaches, most of the time (around 90%) girls didn't talk. Still, I'd have loved to try that again in my age (30's) but somehow you are again missing the point. 3 times I have been to Russia, Ukraine etc. From Monday to Friday. We come at Monday morning and leave at Friday evening. I'm married which means I can't get lost for several hours. Also I leave work together with my colleagues late in the evening and go to some restaurant. Noone wants to act in any other way because most of us are married. I'm just guessing most of the guys who use escorts services are married as well.

If I ever get divorced-god forbid- or get a chance to work alone I'll be sure to take your advice but until then escorts are the way to go. I'm right now searching for Kyrgz women and even though I have learned some places girls hang out, it would be hard for me to locate them.

Best of luck in your mongerings.

[Skwiskwis]

'it was a hot day in august, and the clocks in the alleged southern capital were striking thirteen'. there's just such a wrongness to that place. now i know what your thinking, why do i keep going there if it freaks me out so much? it's the curse of this forum. once i started criticizing the place on this forum, i started having to go there semi-regularly. thankfully short trip there in august in the middle of a longer trip to petersburg, tver and ukraine. couple of nights only. fast train from petersburg to that place again. stayed again at the best western vega, which i recommend only if you have already made arrangements to meet a girl. to get to the elevators, you need to show your hotel pass and everyone with you has to show theirs as well, so if your with a girl she has to register at the front desk. tons of tourists use the hotel. big groups of them. but it is reasonably priced, has a good buffet breakfast, and is super close to a metro stop. mystifying trips again on the metro that must have been built by beavers on lsd.

i'd made arrangements to meet natasha blue hat (photo attached- photo is about a year old). girl i had met on ruscams or peekshows a few years back, back when the video sites were very good places to hook up with russian and ukrainian girls. she used to live in petersburg, where we met semi-regularly for a while, but then she moved to the alleged southern capital, presumably after suffering some kind of traumatic brain damage.

she's also somewhat psychologically unpredictable (do i detect a theme in these reports?) and has something going on with the color red. and you might find her on mamba. not sure. we had a brief discussion about how we met and she made a reference to working sometimes on a dating site, but i didn't press her and it may or may not be mamba. she's tall, small breasted, leggy (another theme), about 175, and vocal during game time. the donative was 22000 rubles for two days and nights (something having to do with buying a refrigerator) and a bottle of j'adore. however, she speaks little, really no, english.

[Markus29]

Hi,

Just got my semester break and came to Moscow.

I have heard different stories about how one can get cheated by girls in Clubs and other places. I'm curious to know is there any cheaper place like some brothel or individual prostitutes' website where I could find nice girls and not very expensive? (Less than 2500 Rubles).

Because I have seen some websites where girls are with 2 much cost and with same prices I can find girls easily in Europe.

So anybody to guide me please for my search??

[Putologist]

Hi,

I'm curious to know is there any cheaper place like some brothel or individual prostitutes' website where I could find nice girls and not very expensive? (Less than 2500 Rubles).There is sometimes room for negotiation, but it depends very much on how good do you speak Russian (at least for small talk etc.).


Because I have seen some websites where girls are with 2 much cost and with same prices I can find girls easily in Europe.Russia is also Europe. I think you mean "West Europe", if yes I agree with you, the prices in Germany, NL etc. Are lower than in Moscow. And many times you will get (ironically) Russian women in the West European FKKs, Salons, Brothels etc.

[Uncle Volodya]

Hi guys!

I've been living here in MOCKBA of around a year. Recently emancipated form a long term G-friend (see, why Pattaya posts) and ready to get back in to the game and test the Moscow waters.

So have any of you tried rusdosug dot com? I've RTFF and its not one of the ones covered by earlier reports here.

There are some real stunners on there (see pics) and the price seems right. Especially for some of these African girls (3-4 K RU for an hour sounds like too good a bargain!

Pics are definitely enhanced, but I do think they are of actual escorts and not porn models. Though bait and switch is always a danger with this type of thing.

I know they have links to where guys review them (I can read Russian fine and speak it too. Though not a native speaker). But most of the reviews are old or don't cover the girls I am interested in.

Anyone have any experience with this site? Or any tips to offer?

It could be a gold mine. Or a Brooklyn bridge sale.

Many thanks in advance!

Uncle-V.

[Suka Shalava]

Hi guys!

I've been here a year, ready to go.

So have any of you tried these African girls (3-4 K RU for an hour sounds like too good a bargain!

Uncle-V.

Uncle!

Can't speak to you about Moscow, but around eight years ago out in some of the provincial capitals, there were always a few ads that ran in one or two of the local gazettas for agencies that could introduce you to some talent. These ads were always buried in the Introductions sections, never intended for non-Russian speakers, they were strictly for locals or visiting Russian speaking businessmen. Most of their ladies were nothing special, but occasionally it was possible find a diamond in the rough, especially considering the prices, which were always very reasonable.

Unfortunately, over the last three years or so, the ONLY ladies available through ads in those gazettas are africans. The ads always read "Chocolate! Chocolate!", like that must be something extra specially interesting, because for your typical Russian guy, my guess is that sex with an african lady is considered quite exotic.

I'm usually busy enough that I haven't needed to try to meet any of the Shokolad ladies, but on one trip when I did find myself without other available options, I called and met one.

On a personal level, she was ice cold, with the same kind of attitude you see with pros that have been in the business long enough that they treat you strictly like a boring business transaction, preferring that you just stick it in and get it over with in as big of a hurry as possible, so they can go on their way to the next customer, with no interest in bonuses of any amount for anything extra. She did have a very hard ass though, so things went smoother for both of us with her in dog fashion on the sofa, with some reach around of me rubbing her clit and her reaching under to squeeze my sack, to get her to squirming which made things much better for me.

So, in a pinch, the experience was overall not unpleasant, but I'm sure I was fortunate. I called her one other evening and we did repeat, but the only way to make that work was to do everything exactly the same, which isn't really interesting.

[Stravinsky]

Just got my semester break and came to Moscow. Interesting, a semester break... the 2nd week of September?

If you are in university and on break in Moscow, why would you even be interested in P4P? You should be hitting the clubs and chatting up the dyevchyonki. I won't call them freebies, because, as we all know... no sex is free, but it definitely will be a lot more fun.

[Stravinsky]

So have any of you tried rusdosug dot com? I've RTFF and its not one of the ones covered by earlier reports here.Дядя Вова,

I don't know, but it seems to me that if you are looking for info on Russian internet escort sites, you might want to try, like, you know... looking in the Russia Websites thread?

[Markus29]

Yes sir, the new semesters in Germany mostly starts in September and October (winter) so I still have last days of my break and I'm here. And I have been to clubs but most of the rumors are that they drink from your money (not sure), make big bills and most probably leave. So is there any pick up bar you're talking where you can find girls (paid but not high price tags)?


Interesting, a semester break... the 2nd week of September?

If you are in university and on break in Moscow, why would you even be interested in P4P? You should be hitting the clubs and chatting up the dyevchyonki. I won't call them freebies, because, as we all know... no sex is free, but it definitely will be a lot more fun.

[Uncle Volodya]

Konechno, Vy pravy..

I guess I should have posted there.

Still not a lot about this site on the forum.


Дядя Вова,

I don't know, but it seems to me that if you are looking for info on Russian internet escort sites, you might want to try, like, you know... looking in the Russia Websites thread?

[Stravinsky]

Still not a lot about this site on the forum.Rusdosug is one of the most accessible escort sites for tourists, so it has been discussed extensively on this forum. You might try doing a search for something like, say... rusdosug, and you will find plenty of info.

The best sites for accurate, current info about Moscow are sextalk.ru and intimcity.nl

[Uncle Volodya]

Pizdets! Ya sebya chustvuyu durakom!

Thanks Stravinsky for your advice. I did try to search for rusdosug, but honestly there is not a lot of info about this particular site. There are also others called dosug.

Both the sites you suggested seem to be sister sites of rusdosug and there are often reviews. But all of these are pretty old.

I guess I will have to go it alone. Promise to post my (mis) adventures.


Rusdosug is one of the most accessible escort sites for tourists, so it has been discussed extensively on this forum. You might try doing a search for something like, say... rusdosug, and you will find plenty of info.

The best sites for accurate, current info about Moscow are sextalk.ru and intimcity.nl

[Jake993]

Pizdets! Ya sebya chustvuyu durakom!

Thanks Stravinsky for your advice. I did try to search for rusdosug, but honestly there is not a lot of info about this particular site. There are also others called dosug.

Both the sites you suggested seem to be sister sites of rusdosug and there are often reviews. But all of these are pretty old.

I guess I will have to go it alone. Promise to post my (mis) adventures.Is this is the site you are looking for?

http://www.rusdosug.com/

For the most part, they are a crap shoot. IMHO there are lot of "agencies" working this site so there is a lot of bait and switch going on especially if you are looking at the English version which is automatically about 50% more expensive. They key to these sites is to look for girls who are "independent" if you want to avoid bait and switch. I hate to say it, but it's a matter of trial and error with these sites I am afraid. Alternatively, you can check out the old faithful places like Night Flight and Hot Dogs. But, I have not been to either place in well over a year so I cannot comment with any accuracy. If you can communicate in Russian then Strav is right, www.sextalk.ru is the "source" for P4 P in Moscow. Oh!, I also most forgot. Another place that is experiencing a bit of a refresh is American Bar & Grill on Sadovaya Triumphalnaya (corner of Tverskaya and the Garden Ring). There seem to be more and more working girls hanging at the bar there. Look for a blond woman in her late 40's named Tamara. She's a bit of a "Queen Bee" there and appears to be quite willing to make "introductions" to some of the younger shy girls whose English is not so good.

Having said all that, if you have been here for more than a year, I would hope that you have already discovered the places for amateur girls. Papas Place, Old School Pub, and Life Pub are all places with lots of hot young girls looking to party. Just remember, the jump from dancing to sex is NOT NEARLY what it is in the West so buys some drinks and get them on the dance floor. This will increase your odds of either taking one home or at least getting a few high quality phone number which can be converted at a future date.

Good luck and good hunting!

Jake.

[Stravinsky]

Look for a blond woman in her late 40's named Tamara. She's a bit of a "Queen Bee" there and appears to be quite willing to make "introductions" to some of the younger shy girls whose English is not so good.Interesting... is her interest charitable, or entrepreneurial?

[Jake993]

Interesting... is her interest charitable, or entrepreneurial?Oh, purely entrepreneurial to be sure. .

[Uncle Volodya]

Thanks for the advice Jake. I will check out all those venues and post my experiences -- even American Bar and Grill. LOL.

As far as I know Hot Dog (the Old Boar House or before that Chesterfield) has been closed for a while. I tried to check it out this winter and the doors were pretty much welded shut.

Man I miss Real McCoy. Now that was a place I could do business! (jeeze this reference really dates me badly).

Stay horny my friend.

Dyada V.

[Gergiev]

Oh, purely entrepreneurial to be sure. .Sounds almost like an indoor 'Tochka', Jake...

[Stravinsky]

Sounds almost like an indoor 'Tochka', Jake....

Точно!

[Member #2096]

Hi I am now just back in Moscow for 3 weeks. However it is getting boring here. So what are the nice places meet normal girls and pros.

From the last 1. 5 years:

1. Real Mc Coy closed.

2. Hot dogs closed.

3. La Kantina is dead since they only sell beer and Apfelkorn.

4. Che closed (was before also impossible to get in anyway).

5. Old school pub is nice but impossible to get in after let's say 10 PM on Fridaynight or Saturdaynight.

Seems like old times are gone and nothing for it in the place. Hope my 3 weeks stay is not getting to boring so please any tips are welcome.

Any tips for taxis for non Russian speakers. If not speaking Russian black taxis are difficult to get and the only English speaking taxi companies in Moscow charge rediculous prices for small rides.

P.

[Jake993]

Hi I am now just back in Moscow for 3 weeks. However it is getting boring here. So what are the nice places meet normal girls and pros.

From the last 1. 5 years:

1. Real Mc Coy closed.

2. Hot dogs closed.

3. La Kantina is dead since they only sell beer and Apfelkorn.

4. Che closed (was before also impossible to get in anyway).

5. Old school pub is nice but impossible to get in after let's say 10 PM on Fridaynight or Saturdaynight.

Seems like old times are gone and nothing for it in the place. Hope my 3 weeks stay is not getting to boring so please any tips are welcome.



Any tips for taxis for non Russian speakers. If not speaking Russian black taxis are difficult to get and the only English speaking taxi companies in Moscow charge rediculous prices for small rides.

P.Jake to the rescue!

1. Papas Place (now on Nikolskaya where Club Pacha used to be) www.papas.ru.

2. Crazy Daisy on Sretanka Ul. 21 (http://www.daisybar.ru/main.php).

3. Old School Pub. Just keep trying. Don't give up.

4. Hudson Bar at Belorusskaya (http://www.hudsonbar.ru/).

5. Kukle Pistoleta (Chicks with guns) at Mendeleyevskaya (http://www.kuklypistolety.ru/).

BTW. Try the smartphone app called "Get Taxi". Makes life soooo much better.

[WebWerewolf]

I have tried this one a couple of times and, basically, can say that individuals there are ok and mostly matching with what you see on the pictures.

In there, you can even save a bit, although more or less classy offers cost more certainly.

Anyway, it's recommended and could be a good option for our German friend staying here for a while as well.

[RichGossage]

Hi all!

Before anyone accuses me of being lazy, I have read about 12 pages of the forum. Seems like a very friendly bunch.

I could use a little advice. I have one night in Moscow. Staying at the Intercontinental. I may be working till fairly late. What I would ideally like is somewhere nearby (is walking safe? Or a short taxi, where I can meet working girls face to face. With a view to taking one back to the hotel.

I notice there is a club called Night Flight nearby. Any possibilities there? I am looking for 8+ girls I would think. I don't mind spending up to say 15,000 for a couple of hours. Assuming they are beautiful!

I speak no Russian. So some English a big plus.

All thoughts appreciated. And I promise to report back!

Cheers,

RG

[Stravinsky]

Not sure you want to go to Night Flight, the girls there eat turistas like you for breakfast.

I'm surprised you didn't see Jake's post on this same page with suggestions for places to meet women. *If you are near Night Flight, then you're not too far from the American Bar & Grill. If you Google American Bar and Grill Moscow, you can see how to get there. That could be your best bet.

[Jake993]

Not sure you want to go to Night Flight, the girls there eat turistas like you for breakfast.

I'm surprised you didn't see Jake's post on this same page with suggestions for places to meet women. *If you are near Night Flight, then you're not too far from the American Bar & Grill. If you Google American Bar and Grill Moscow, you can see how to get there. That could be your best bet.Strav, I am afraid that I must disagree with you on this one. If the guy only has one night and is going to get a late start, probably best to go where you KNOW WG's will be. 100% for sure. AmBar is more of a crap shoot IMHO. IT also depends on the day of the week. Monday. Thursday NF would have a better selection while Fri thru Sun, not so much.

[Iceberg27]

Strav, I am afraid that I must disagree with you on this one. If the guy only has one night and is going to get a late start, probably best to go where you KNOW WG's will be. 100% for sure. AmBar is more of a crap shoot IMHO. IT also depends on the day of the week. Monday. Thursday NF would have a better selection while Fri thru Sun, not so much.I disagree with both of you. The price you will pay in Night Flight just incredible.

I recommend to go to Charmel. Easy to locate. Just search in the thread and you will find it. One third price and reasonable choices. If you are lucky you will find a 9 there and an 8 is I think guaranteed.

Regards.

[RichGossage]

It might be two nights now. Will be Tuesday and Wednesday night.

But both will be working until fairly late, so I do want somewhere I can be guaranteed to find WGs. CBA to mess about. Particularly as I do no speak the lingo.

So what is Charmel? Is it a club? Bar? Salon?

[Stravinsky]

Strav, I am afraid that I must disagree with you on this one. If the guy only has one night and is going to get a late start, probably best to go where you KNOW WG's will be. 100% for sure. AmBar is more of a crap shoot IMHO. IT also depends on the day of the week. Monday. Thursday NF would have a better selection while Fri thru Sun, not so much.Jake,

No problem, I'm always willing to defer to your superior knowledge of the terrain in-country. It sounded to me as if the American Bar & Grill was fairly well organized, but apparently not. And you know me... ever vigilant about touristas venturing into Night Flight.


I disagree with both of you. The price you will pay in Night Flight just incredible.

I recommend to go to Charmel. Easy to locate. Just search in the thread and you will find it. One third price and reasonable choices. If you are lucky you will find a 9 there and an 8 is I think guaranteed.Iceberg,

The salons are definitely a better option, but my experience has been they can be a little tricky to get into. None of them have the absolute advantage that Night Flight has of being located directly on the avenue, where you can just walk in off the street, into a room full of available WG's. It's pretty much a no-brainer; for the girls as well!

[Iceberg27]

Jake,

No problem, I'm always willing to defer to your superior knowledge of the terrain in-country. It sounded to me as if the American Bar & Grill was fairly well organized, but apparently not. And you know me... ever vigilant about touristas venturing into Night Flight.

Iceberg,

The salons are definitely a better option, but my experience has been they can be a little tricky to get into. None of them have the absolute advantage that Night Flight has of being located directly on the avenue, where you can just walk in off the street, into a room full of available WG's. It's pretty much a no-brainer; for the girls as well!Strav,

You are right a little bit tricky but if you think about 5000 rubles (130 USD) per hour price compared to 500 USD of Night Flight it worth to try.

Rich,

Charmel is a saloon which means a kind of private brothel.

Here is how to get there;.

Find the Sberbank on Nikitsky Boulevard which is close to Metro Arbatskaya. Call their number. You can find the number from their website (charmel ending with biz.).

They will give you a question like what is your name and after a while a guy will come and ask you the question and if you reply true. That's it. You are in. He will take you to the place.

You can use your finger to show which girl you want and I am sure you will start to speak russian when you see the girls. .

If you are lucky you will find an 8 or 9 there if you are not definitely you will find a few 7's.

Good luck.

Note: If you are really Rich and want to enjoy a good night starting with some bar flirting you must definitely go Night Flight.

[RichGossage]

Ok. Well I might give Night flight a go. I much prefer to take girls back to the hotel rather than in a random room somewhere.

Any other recommendations? Simple is key.

[Stravinsky]

Any other recommendations? That's pretty much it. You pays your money and you takes your chance.

Let us know how it turns out.

[Jake993]

Ok. Well I might give Night flight a go. I much prefer to take girls back to the hotel rather than in a random room somewhere.

Any other recommendations? Simple is key.Simple = Night Flight.

It's not that I am endorsing NF but it's SO close to the Intercontinental.

But do yourself a favor and take tax back to the hotel. If you insist on walking it will ruin the tone of the whole experience.

Trust me, I made that mistake once trying to save a few bucks on a cab. That was stupid.

Just in case you are curious, charm'El is great. But if it's your first trip and you speak no Russian, there a better than 50:50 chance that you will not make it past he front door.

[Stravinsky]

But do yourself a favor and take tax back to the hotel. If you insist on walking it will ruin the tone of the whole experience.Oh, I don't know. I always thought it was kind of romantic walking back to the apartment.

But that was a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... :)

[RichGossage]

Ok. Sounds like Night Flight will be my first port of call. The taxi thing was not a money saving. More convenience. A short walk probably easier than trying to get a cab in English!

I have a night in St Petersburg after Moscow. Thinking of trying my luck with rusprostitute dot com. Will grab a sim at the airport and give it a try.

[Iceberg27]

Simple = Night Flight.

It's not that I am endorsing NF but it's SO close to the Intercontinental.

But do yourself a favor and take tax back to the hotel. If you insist on walking it will ruin the tone of the whole experience.

Trust me, I made that mistake once trying to save a few bucks on a cab. That was stupid.

Just in case you are curious, charm'El is great. But if it's your first trip and you speak no Russian, there a better than 50:50 chance that you will not make it past he front door.I am just curious HE shouldn't walk because of cold weather or danger of robbery?

What was your experience? I am curious.

[Samcik]

I'm in Moscow now and I absolutely love it, even though weather is cold and people are mean and angry on the streets. But girls totally compensating everything. I lived in Kiev before and I tell you girls here are more professional and service outstanding but at the same time it's not cheap. I was in restaurant bar Siberia last night, it was pricey but worst every dollar I spent there. VS model type of girls were hanging there met with a girl who ended up being former Maxim girl. Had great time with her and tomorrow will meet with former Russian porn star friend of mine recommended. Also if you're staying in nice hotels there are always plenty girls in hotel bar or in the lobby. Ararat Park Hyatt Moscow, Kempinski and Hilton are good places to stay.

[RichGossage]

Oh. What currency do people suggest? Easiest just to take Rubles from a cash machine?

[Tiger888]

Ok. Sounds like Night Flight will be my first port of call. The taxi thing was not a money saving. More convenience. A short walk probably easier than trying to get a cab in English!

I have a night in St Petersburg after Moscow. Thinking of trying my luck with rusprostitute dot com. Will grab a sim at the airport and give it a try.Simply download and use 'gettaxi' app, works in Moscow and St Petersburg. Your address is found by GPS / Google maps type thing. All taxis have wifi and you can link you credit card to pay for the trip.

[Jake993]

I am just curious HE shouldn't walk because of cold weather or danger of robbery?

What was your experience? I am curious.No, not because of cold, danger or robbery. It's because the girl was wearing skimpy clothes and had on ridiculously high heels. My bad. By the time we made it to my apartment, she was pissed off. Kind of started things off on the wrong note.

[Jake993]

Oh. What currency do people suggest? Easiest just to take Rubles from a cash machine?Yes, cash machines (Bankomat) are plentiful and almost always work.

[Jorge Rad10]

I have been away from this Forum quite long time. After my adventures in Moscow with д1077;1074;1091;1096;1082;1080; last December, I decided to give it a try to Moscow more often. No regrets at all, it was the best time of my life, spending weekends in Moscow from January till September. My main goal was to get together with д1077;1074;1091;1096;1082;1080;, which is not difficult in the whole Russia if you have the fix idea of that and a bit of luck.

I'm going to start with December where I got some contacts with a girl from Nigh Flight semi pro and very beautiful indeed. I returned to Moscow in the cold January, full of snow and gloomy days. My agenda was hectic so I kept calling my last contacts but they were busy and gave a try with other pros. I have also met persons near the place where I stayed most of the time Belorusskaya station and the business area, many restaurants around full of girls from companies open to talk, my favorite restaurant was Torro Grill, it has the perfect mix of bar and restaurant, if you try the bar you will find many pros chasing customers. I set up many meetings with girls there and around to build up a good network. It worked well, every month I was hanging out with different persons but still keep in contact with the semipros. When the snow melted and the beginning of spring showed more light, I met one beautiful devushka half Georgian and half Russian (semipro) She was very hot, curvy ass and tempting breast. We had chemistry in bed, not restrictions at all. I decided to keep hanging out with this girl for a while, even planning to do some trips together. In May while playing football with my colleagues got an injury that make my plans change. Working in an oil company and travelling to Moscow was a perfect alibi to say to everybody in Moscow. Considering that I was travelling once per month to Moscow you could conclude that my network was very good. Civils and semipros, a perfect mix.

Nothing is perfect for so long, when is too perfect is very suspicious, the beginning of summer I got fired from my company. At that moment didn't care much, I was very confident I could get a job quite easily. Just for relax and forget the bad moment I went to Moscow for more days than usual to meet civilians, everything went well.

For one reason or another, I was curious about the largest journey by train in the world "The Transiberian " Moscow to Vladivostok is and endless journey, and exciting adventure that need to forget my bad moment. I made this trip but with many stopovers in different cities on my way to Vladivostok, wasn't so difficult, sometimes hard to get the right street. Without much thinking, one day booked my tickets and jumped into the train. My journey extended for 3.5 weeks. The province in Russia was astonishing; the beauty of the girls was insane. I found myself drunk in strip clubs in Ekaterinburg, hanging out with beautiful girls in Siberia and the far east. English was a problem but I sorted it out until get the far east of Russia. Vladivostok was a perfect place to stay for more days, girls are able to speak good English because they are in contact with Koreans and Chineses, communication wasn't a problem and again I felt welcome in that city. All Russians were extremely friendly; of course I took advantage of my ethnicity and most of my time I spent with girls.

On my way back to Moscow, still gave a try to the same civilians, many of them wanted some serious relationship that I couldn't offer at that time. I fell in love of two devushky. Unfortunately it didn't go well, my bad and my lack of patience. My time and my visits to Moscow were ending.

Targets are different right now, but I definitely enjoyed every time I was in Moscow, the improvisation worked well for me and that's common in Russia, while in North Europe everything is plan. I had the opportunity to find wonderful and the most openhearted people I ever met. This forum was a good source of information of how the Russian girls behave against foreigners, even if I didn't update much about my achievements but that is a homework for everyone who want to get devushki. Hope I will be back to Russia one day, but right now I'm trying to reorganize my life.

[Iceberg27]

I have been away from this Forum quite long time. After my adventures in Moscow with д1077;1074;1091;1096;1082;1080; last December, I decided to give it a try to Moscow more often. No regrets at all, it was the best time of my life, spending weekends in Moscow from January till September. My main goal was to get together with д1077;1074;1091;1096;1082;1080;, which is not difficult in the whole Russia if you have the fix idea of that and a bit of luck.

I'm going to start with December where I got some contacts with a girl from Nigh Flight semi pro and very beautiful indeed. I returned to Moscow in the cold January, full of snow and gloomy days. My agenda was hectic so I kept calling my last contacts but they were busy and gave a try with other pros. I have also met persons near the place where I stayed most of the time Belorusskaya station and the business area, many restaurants around full of girls from companies open to talk, my favorite restaurant was Torro Grill, it has the perfect mix of bar and restaurant, if you try the bar you will find many pros chasing customers. I set up many meetings with girls there and around to build up a good network. It worked well, every month I was hanging out with different persons but still keep in contact with the semipros. When the snow melted and the beginning of spring showed more light, I met one beautiful devushka half Georgian and half Russian (semipro) She was very hot, curvy ass and tempting breast. We had chemistry in bed, not restrictions at all. I decided to keep hanging out with this girl for a while, even planning to do some trips together. In May while playing football with my colleagues got an injury that make my plans change. Working in an oil company and travelling to Moscow was a perfect alibi to say to everybody in Moscow. Considering that I was travelling once per month to Moscow you could conclude that my network was very good. Civils and semipros, a perfect mix.


Targets are different right now, but I definitely enjoyed every time I was in Moscow, the improvisation worked well for me and that's common in Russia, while in North Europe everything is plan. I had the opportunity to find wonderful and the most openhearted people I ever met. This forum was a good source of information of how the Russian girls behave against foreigners, even if I didn't update much about my achievements but that is a homework for everyone who want to get devushki. Hope I will be back to Russia one day, but right now I'm trying to reorganize my life.Very informative and nice post Jorge. I am just curious where you are from.

Getting fired and take your time to enjoy Transsiberian Train. This is a big story.

A few years ago I was also fired and went to Saint Petersburg in March. So I understand how you feel.

English speakers in Vla. Is an important info. Thanks for that.

Hope to visit there in future.

I just need to ask you especially for civilians (I guess you mean freebie with this) everything was easier compared to Moscow?

Regards.

[Jorge Rad10]

Very informative and nice post Jorge. I am just curious where you are from.

Getting fired and take your time to enjoy Transsiberian Train. This is a big story.

A few years ago I was also fired and went to Saint Petersburg in March. So I understand how you feel.

English speakers in Vla. Is an important info. Thanks for that.

Hope to visit there in future.

I just need to ask you especially for civilians (I guess you mean freebie with this) everything was easier compared to Moscow?

Regards.Jake,

I'm Southamerican, so once I'm in the Russian province that factor multiple sharply (pros and cons of course). Detailing more about my firing, the manager in charge just made me a big favor when he fired me, more time to spend in Russia and perfect time summer, I think that's a once life time chance. Anyway thanks for sympathize with my case. Vla is full of devushki who speak very good English, I was so surprised about that. If I'm lucky I'll visit Vla in the near future, but first I need to set up my life first.

At the beginning I was more interested for pros some of my reports here showed my taste, is more easy if you don't spend much time in the city. But then my network of girls become bigger than I expected and normal girls were in my list as well. In the province, let's say Yekaterinburg, Irkutsk, Khabarovsk and Vladivostok was way too easy to get girls, that's why I stayed more time than expected.

[Skwiskwis]

Just a comment regarding using American bank cards in Russian ATMs. Speaking from my own experience, my bank card, as of the end of the summer, has only worked in Sberbank ATMS in Russia, after having worked in almost all Russian ATMs for years. I bank at a Credit Union, and when I called was told that as of the end of the summer, European ATMs, including Russian, were using the "chip and pin" cards. I was advised my own bank cards would not be updated to chip cards until some time next year at the earliest, was given a website of ATMs that "might" still accept magnetic strip cards, and offered a pre-loaded chip card from a company charging 2. 25 per transaction. The good news was that Sberbank ATMs are all over the place in Russia, as it is one of the largest banks, so I had no trouble finding one in Moscow (and St Petersburg). However, when I took a trip to Ukraine, I could not find a single ATM that would accept my magnetic strip card, including Sberbank Ukraine, and I literally tried every ATM in Kiev airport and at least 20 (all different banks) in another city.

Of course, in a pinch, you can take your American bank card, if it's a visa bank debit card, into a bank and simply withdraw money from it. Again, what I was told is that if the bank has a visa logo on its doors, it has to allow you to withdraw from your account with your debit card (some kind of agreement with visa). And supposedly, the bank isn't going to charge you a fee.

[Iceberg27]

Jake,

I'm Southamerican, so once I'm in the Russian province that factor multiple sharply (pros and cons of course).

At the beginning I was more interested for pros some of my reports here showed my taste, is more easy if you don't spend much time in the city. But then my network of girls become bigger than I expected and normal girls were in my list as well. In the province, let's say Yekaterinburg, Irkutsk, Khabarovsk and Vladivostok was way too easy to get girls, that's why I stayed more time than expected.Jorge,

I am in a better job now and had a promotion last year. Never believed people telling me eveything will be better at that time.

Anyway I wish best for you. Regarding your trip I have made some research and had learned it is a 14 hours way from Moscow with train.

It looks like I will take the plane but you must tell us where to stay which bar or clubs are good to go in there.

[Stravinsky]

I have also met persons near the place where I stayed most of the time Belorusskaya station and the business area, many restaurants around full of girls from companies open to talk, my favorite restaurant was Torro Grill, it has the perfect mix of bar and restaurant, if you try the bar you will find many pros chasing customers.


I made this trip but with many stopovers in different cities on my way to Vladivostok, wasn't so difficult, sometimes hard to get the right street. Without much thinking, one day booked my tickets and jumped into the train. My journey extended for 3.5 weeks.


The province in Russia was astonishing; the beauty of the girls was insane. I found myself drunk in strip clubs in Ekaterinburg, hanging out with beautiful girls in Siberia and the far east. English was a problem but I sorted it out until get the far east of Russia.


Vladivostok was a perfect place to stay for more days, girls are able to speak good English because they are in contact with Koreans and Chineses, communication wasn't a problem and again I felt welcome in that city.Probably the most important advice of all for success in Russia.


the improvisation worked well for me and that's common in Russia


Thanks for your wonderful report. Sometimes getting fired is the best thing that can happen to you.

How does the ticket work on the Transiberian? Do you buy one ticket that gives you passage all the way to Vladivostok? Can you simply get off and back on when you want? Do you need to buy separate tickets between cities you stop at?

What did you pay for your ticket?

Interesting that the common language for Russians to communicate with Koreans and Chinese is English.

Buena suerte.

[Jorge Rad10]

Jorge,

I am in a better job now and had a promotion last year. Never believed people telling me eveything will be better at that time.

Anyway I wish best for you. Regarding your trip I have made some research and had learned it is a 14 hours way from Moscow with train.

It looks like I will take the plane but you must tell us where to stay which bar or clubs are good to go in there.Iceberg,

Thanks for your words. I have recently been busy that's why I delayed my reply. From Moscow to Vladivostok is one week non stop by train. But being honest with you if you don't have time don't do it, just take the plane that is 7.5 hours and is not expensive. Regarding housing, there are few options in airbnb but stay near the center, where the action happen. There few places in Vladivostok that will call your attention, so I went to "Mummy Troll" at Posyetskaya street, there are many music bars in that street but Mummy Troll was the best, it was Tuesday night and the party was on fire. I must say it was summer season and students were on summer break so I don't know how will it be right now. I came back to the same place on Thursday and again party on fire, I went so crazy with the party mood, very good memories. There is another place call the Cuckoo Club, it was very fancy but I didn't spend much time there I preferred the first one. There are some strip clubs but, one of them is in the hotel Azimuth if I recall well, but since I got a local girl I didn't go there. All in all pretty sure you will find good bars in town, the city isn't big so make the life easy if you consider near downtown.

[Jorge Rad10]

Probably the most important advice of all for success in Russia.

Thanks for your wonderful report. Sometimes getting fired is the best thing that can happen to you.

How does the ticket work on the Transiberian? Do you buy one ticket that gives you passage all the way to Vladivostok? Can you simply get off and back on when you want? Do you need to buy separate tickets between cities you stop at?

What did you pay for your ticket?

Interesting that the common language for Russians to communicate with Koreans and Chinese is English.

Buena suerte.Stravinsky,

You are right getting fire was the best part of my summer. The tickets are very easy to collect / buy in every stop that you make in this journey. Let me explain in detailed if you want to travel non stop straight to Vladivostok you buy one ticket but you can not get off in any station that you want. I wouldn't advise to do this journey at once is too tough. What I did is bought a ticket from Moscow to Perm in Koupe class, it is a bit expensive but if you want comfort then pay for it. When I got Perm, I got off the train and bought the tickets from Perm to Ekaterinburg, then I went to the hostel to dropped my bag and take a rest for one day, went to a bar and try to talk with persons. The day after I was on the train again towards Ekaterinburg. I never booked in advanced the tickets, there are three classes but koupe class is a good one and Russians don't but it quite often so there are plenty of seats available on internet and at the station. When I travelled it was summer and usually the tickets are sold out but not this season because of the problem with Ukraine, not many tourist created courage to come to Russia. The price vary from the distance of one city to another but the most expensive ticket was 6863.4 rub from Chita to Khabarovsk, it was two days non stop journey.

I agree with you Strav, it was a surprise to hear English in Vladivostok.

[BigTwins]

Hi all,

I'm thinking on planning an extended vacation to FSU next year. I remember reading a report about a gentleman who rented a sauna for a night and had groups of girls presented to him. Then, he would pick one or two from each group and party with them for.

Awhile. I'm interested in that but can't find the report. Also, the links to reports of distinction don't lead to the reports. I can manage the language barrier I think as I've traveled the world a couple of times and always get by. My preference is for the 18 to.

Early twenties. I'm planning on staying in an apartment in each city I visit and I'm wondering if anyone has any advice on good places to stay in Moscow, st Petersburg, and Kiev. I will most likely hop on a train and go out to the surrounding cities as I enjoy the mystery.

And excitement of getting lost in a strange place. Are escorts sites worth it or is it better to just hit up the clubs? Any places to avoid? Any info or links will be greatly appreciated if you have the time.

Thank you

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[Iceberg27]

Iceberg,

Thanks for your words. I have recently been busy that's why I delayed my reply. From Moscow to Vladivostok is one week non stop by train. But being honest with you if you don't have time don't do it, just take the plane that is 7.5 hours and is not expensive. Regarding housing, there are few options in airbnb but stay near the center, where the action happen. There few places in Vladivostok that will call your attention, so I went to "Mummy Troll" at Posyetskaya street, there are many music bars in that street but Mummy Troll was the best, it was Tuesday night and the party was on fire. I must say it was summer season and students were on summer break so I don't know how will it be right now. I came back to the same place on Thursday and again party on fire, I went so crazy with the party mood, very good memories. There is another place call the Cuckoo Club, it was very fancy but I didn't spend much time there I preferred the first one. There are some strip clubs but, one of them is in the hotel Azimuth if I recall well, but since I got a local girl I didn't go there. All in all pretty sure you will find good bars in town, the city isn't big so make the life easy if you consider near downtown.Jorge,

I am more interested in train. Maybe it is possible to meet someone in train. Trains are always best places for getting friends.

Maybe I am fired one day again and take a good compensation. Of course I am joking. Thanks for the names of the places. I am also very much curious about Ekaterinburg strip clubs. I know I ask too much just can't stop myself. Can you make a comparison between strip clubs of Moscow and Ekaterinburg in means of prices, available talent and atmosphere?

[Jorge Rad10]

jorge,

i am more interested in train. maybe it is possible to meet someone in train. trains are always best places for getting friends.

maybe i am fired one day again and take a good compensation. of course i am joking. thanks for the names of the places. i am also very much curious about ekaterinburg strip clubs. i know i ask too much just can't stop myself. can you make a comparison between strip clubs of moscow and ekaterinburg in means of prices, available talent and atmosphere?iceberg,

not a problem to reply to your queries i have plenty of time while i'm looking for another job. if you go by train, the good season to meet foreigners is summer but if you speak russian you could find lovely girls who are travelling. i didn't talk much while i was traveling because my lack of fluency with the cyrillic.

ekaterinburg is a really good place to meet good quality of girls and also many of them speak good english (ekat is the third largest city in russia and very modern). there is one famous strip club call 911 but also near the famous skyscraper you could find some good strip clubs. some russians took me to one, i don't remember name and location i was very drunk but i remember some girls dancing around me, i tipped them and left. that one was cheap if i compared to some strip clubs in moscow. the others strip clubs i didn't visit because i found a local girl who was very eager to stay with me my whole stay. as i said, coming from south america increased my chances in the province and in ekat i felt it very much, persons looking at me because i spoke english. i came back to ekat after finished my trip in vladivostok to meet that girl again but that is another story.

[Iceberg27]

iceberg,

not a problem to reply to your queries i have plenty of time while i'm looking for another job. if you go by train, the good season to meet foreigners is summer but if you speak russian you could find lovely girls who are travelling. i didn't talk much while i was traveling because my lack of fluency with the cyrillic.

ekaterinburg is a really good place to meet good quality of girls and also many of them speak good english (ekat is the third largest city in russia and very modern). there is one famous strip club call 911 but also near the famous skyscraper you could find some good strip clubs. some russians took me to one, i don't remember name and location i was very drunk but i remember some girls dancing around me, i tipped them and left. that one was cheap if i compared to some strip clubs in moscow. the others strip clubs i didn't visit because i found a local girl who was very eager to stay with me my whole stay. as i said, coming from south america increased my chances in the province and in ekat i felt it very much, persons looking at me because i spoke english. i came back to ekat after finished my trip in vladivostok to meet that girl again but that is another story.thanks buddy!

it looks like both ekaterinburg and vlad. deserve to be visited.

i hope i do it one day.

regards.

[BigTwins]

I may be wrong here, but very little has been written about the saunas in Moscow. In fact, I can't remember anything being written in ANY of the FSU forums. I had the pleasure of partaking in a Moscow sauna last week and I thought I would share my experience.

There are literally hundreds of saunas in Moscow. Maybe even thousands. As the word implies, at the heart of the experience is a sauna and shower. But many if these little gems usually have a bar, karaoke machine, perhaps a pool table, dart board. Some will even have a plunge pool and even a swimming pool for your enjoyment. And of course there are usually at least one or two private "relaxing" rooms that have a bed in each.

These private saunas should not be confused with the more public 'banya' which is a time honored tradition in Russia. I am sure that someone out there can probably enlighten us as to the technical difference between 'banya' and 'sauna' but I will leave that to someone more worldly than me.

The particular sauna my colleagues and I visited was in central Moscow and had a nice (but small) changing area where you strip off your clothes and put on either a bath robe or towel (bed sheet) depending on your preference and of course the obligatory 'tappochki' (slippers)...Hello Mr Jake993,

I am planning a trip to FSU next year and I'm wondering if you can tell me which sauna you went to or provide links to some of them, if they have websites. This is definitely something I would love to try at least once in my lifetime. I'm not sure how to PM you as I clicked on your name and didn't see an option to PM you. Anyway, you can PM me if you like.

Thank you,

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[Jorge Rad10]

Thanks buddy!

It looks like both Ekaterinburg and Vlad. Deserve to be visited.

I hope I do it one day.

Regards.Khabarovsk, is the first city from the far east Russia, full of beautiful girls. You should visit as well, believe me the far east is just different. I hooked up with one girl who helped me out to find my place in the city, I just got off the station and she was curious about my origin, she offered me her help and we ended up drinking vodka and having dinner later on, she was 19 year old Nice person who wanted some fun. But the city was full of beauties.

[Iceberg27]

Khabarovsk, is the first city from the far east Russia, full of beautiful girls. You should visit as well, believe me the far east is just different. I hooked up with one girl who helped me out to find my place in the city, I just got off the station and she was curious about my origin, she offered me her help and we ended up drinking vodka and having dinner later on, she was 19 year old Nice person who wanted some fun. But the city was full of beauties.So it makes total three cities worth a visit.

Can you give us an idea about costs? How much you spend?

[Jorge Rad10]

So it makes total three cities worth a visit.

Can you give us an idea about costs? How much you spend?Iceberg,

I don't remember very well about my expenses, since I was and vacation and my budget wasn't the problem, for me the city wasn't expensive not even the food in a good restaurant if I compared with Moscow, prices were lower than Moscow for sure. I wanted to stay more time in Khabarosvk but my guess is that is better on weekends than normal days.

[Nbrand]

Stayed there couple of times in the last 10 yrs. Morbide charme of former soviet times, photos of all leaders of USSR and mostly other communist states etc who stayed there on the walls.

In former years, min. 5-10 girls (6-9 on 1-10 scale) were hanging out between lobby and elevators. Bored with there cocktails later at night. Occasionally they walk up to you and ask for "massage". They charge rather high prices, try to start with 2-300 USD. Never engaged with them since travelling with business partners. Heard from colleagues, that it may be more an average to rip-off service.

[Cucumber]

As far as I have been able to work out, Dolce Vita has been closed, as have many other salons. Anyone have suggestions for an ok salon, anything from 2500 to 8000 roubles per hour?

[Iceberg27]

Iceberg,

I don't remember very well about my expenses, since I was and vacation and my budget wasn't the problem, for me the city wasn't expensive not even the food in a good restaurant if I compared with Moscow, prices were lower than Moscow for sure. I wanted to stay more time in Khabarosvk but my guess is that is better on weekends than normal days.Thanks a lot for the information you have provided.

I wish you the best.

Regards.

[KeepItBurnin]

Hi guys,

First time in Moscow. I found this website http://www.devochki.com/ . Can I trust it?

Where can I get beautiful girls at this price? (around 2000 rubles).

Thank you guys.

[Member #4335]

A few websites have been banned and one of them is the current and reliable RusDosug. Anyone knows of an alternative website which the girls tend to use, not specifically Moscow but the whole Russia?

[Jake993]

A few websites have been banned and one of them is the current and reliable RusDosug. Anyone knows of an alternative website which the girls tend to use, not specifically Moscow but the whole Russia?https://prostitutki.rusdosug.com/ or www.rusdosug.ru.

[Member #4335]

https://prostitutki.rusdosug.com/ or www.rusdosug.ru.Both of them are banned as well. Seems like Russia is starting to filter and regulate the internet.

[Smdrr]

Hello forum!

I have a fairly generic question, which I am not even sure has a definitive answer, but here it goes (I have posted the same question in the Ukraine forum as well). I have the option of visiting either Russia or Ukraine early summer. Even though this may be early but given that this will be a work-related visit I need to do some leg work beforehand, which has me thinking about this question: where to visit? Russia (Moscow or possibly St Petersburg) or Ukraine (Kiev or any other city? I have about 10 days or so to myself after work is done and am looking mainly for freebies. I am not sure of the concept of semi-pros but that maybe an option too. I am in my early 30's and not bad looking. I had a great time recently in SEA and was hoping to repeat the same in Russia / Ukraine as I am very much into the women from this region. So if you were starting your adventures from one of these countries which one would it be? Of course this is if both are reasonably safe by the time of my visit. I understand that the political situation may make one (or even both) of these options moot.

Any advice is appreciated!

[Jelly Donut]

Both of them are banned as well. Seems like Russia is starting to filter and regulate the internet.I can access that site from the United States (19:37 EST on November 17).

It may be the site itself prevents you from accessing it from a given country or perhaps the site was down earlier.

[Jake993]

Both of them are banned as well. Seems like Russia is starting to filter and regulate the internet.Dude, it might be your Internet provider. I am in Moscow NOW and can get both of them no problem.

[Uncle Volodya]

Hello forum!

I have a fairly generic question, which I am not even sure has a definitive answer, but here it goes (I have posted the same question in the Ukraine forum as well). I have the option of visiting either Russia or Ukraine early summer. Even though this may be early but given that this will be a work-related visit I need to do some leg work beforehand, which has me thinking about this question: where to visit? Russia (Moscow or possibly St Petersburg) or Ukraine (Kiev or any other city? I have about 10 days or so to myself after work is done and am looking mainly for freebies. I am not sure of the concept of semi-pros but that maybe an option too. I am in my early 30's and not bad looking. I had a great time recently in SEA and was hoping to repeat the same in Russia / Ukraine as I am very much into the women from this region. So if you were starting your adventures from one of these countries which one would it be? Of course this is if both are reasonably safe by the time of my visit. I understand that the political situation may make one (or even both) of these options moot.

Any advice is appreciated!My advice is to go back to SE Asia. P4 P is outrageously overpriced here and sercie is horrendous. What you will pay here for an hour of rushed, mediocre service (7-10 K Rubles) will buy you a week of GFE with a hot free lancer in Pattaya.

Just my 2 Kopeks worth.

Uncle-V.

[Smdrr]

My advice is to go back to SE Asia. P4 P is outrageously overpriced here and sercie is horrendous. What you will pay here for an hour of rushed, mediocre service (7-10 K Rubles) will buy you a week of GFE with a hot free lancer in Pattaya.

Just my 2 Kopeks worth.

Uncle-V.Thanks, Uncle-V. Actually for P4 P I prefer German FKK's to the other options (have reported on some of my experiences in the FKK forums here). Very reasonable price and beautiful and sometimes stunning women with high quality service if you know how to find them. The SEA and Russia I was thinking mostly for freebies (I like the adventure and thrill of it even though I know it will probably costs more than P4 P in the end). I like something that DavidVanSchuma or YummyPL did and reported here. So my question was basically if it is still likely to find 7+ freebies in Moscow? It looks like to me dating sites would be a good place to start maybe? Is the bar scene a viable option for an english-speaking fellow?

I have RTFF before but was wondering if the positive vibe still exists in Moscow / St Petersburg or does it not worth the time and resources that I am going to invest in this trip.

Thanks for the help.

[Jake993]

I have RTFF before but was wondering if the positive vibe still exists in Moscow / St Petersburg or does it not worth the time and resources that I am going to invest in this trip.
Thanks for the help.Smdrr,

It absolutely DOES exist in Moscow. While P4 P is essentially a pointless exercise in Moscow, hunting down 7+ normal chicks is DEFINITELY a worthwhile pursuit. Especially now that the specter of restraint is in the air due to Westerns sanctions. I can't quite put my finger on it but I have been receiving MUCH more than my fair share of attention from girls in bars, restaurants, etc. Like Yummy and DavidVanSchuma, you need to do some preparation and get your head around the right game plan if you want to maximize the experience. But on the whole, beautiful girls in Moscow abound.

Have fun!

Jake.

[Suka Shalava]

I only made one attempt to monger in Asia, and due to coming down with shingles after having a severe panic attack in the airport, I only had limited opportunities. In spite of that handicap, I still managed a few evenings to choose a bride for the night at 11 x. While those ladies were certainly interesting, I'm afraid my whole asian 'tourist' experience was far less romantic than journeying beyond Kiev and Moscow to discover the provinces in Ukraine and Russia.

Sixteen years and 32 trips later, all I can say is that the cultural conditions in Ukraine from 2000 until 2007, and in Russia from 2008 until now, the years when I had the fortune to spend my time there, created opportunities to meet and get acquainted with the most passionate ladies.

I won't measure that on financial terms, except to say that, as a sponsor, apart from the occasional poor judgements I've made, for the most part, being overly generous has resulted in maintaing good relations, which for me is very important, because I tend to concentrate on developing long term relationships in a limited number of cities.

What all that comes down to, is having enough friends that you can rely on to assist you in making new acquaintances. Things have changed so much in the last 15 years. It was much easier to meet new ladies before 2009. It was actually too easy. But those days are GONE. Things are still changing and will continue to change.

For now, as I have been educated by those who really do know, you keep your head down and stay out of the spotlight. Be a respectful visitor in their country, so that your host will continue to welcome you back in the future. Nowhere else will you find ladies just waiting for a spark to ignite this kind of hot fire.

[Stravinsky]

I can't quite put my finger on it but I have been receiving MUCH more than my fair share of attention from girls in bars, restaurants, etc.Do you think this phenomenon might have anything to do with the fact that the local exchange rate for Ruble / Dollar is now about 2 cents?

[Smdrr]

It absolutely DOES exist in Moscow.
Jake.Thanks this is what I hoping for. As for the game plan I am hoping that doing some research on dating sites some time prior to the trip should do it? I have been told that Moscow may not be safe as I might get beaten up by the locals for picking up chicks but I think following common sense would get a long way in helping me not to get into hairy situations. I just hope the political situation does not get much more complicated than what it is right now by the summer.

[Jake993]

Do you think this phenomenon might have anything to do with the fact that the local exchange rate for Ruble / Dollar is now about 2 cents?You know, I have thought about that and you might be right. Where I have REALLY noticed the exchange rate making a big negative impact in in the bars. Imported alcohol is getting more and more expansive every weekend. Ha! What a dope! All of that extra attention I was feeling is just girls trying to scam me into buying them free drinks!

[Stravinsky]

Where I have REALLY noticed the exchange rate making a big negative impact is in the bars. Imported alcohol is getting more and more expensive every weekend. Ha! What a dope! All of that extra attention I was feeling is just girls trying to scam me into buying them free drinks!

Hey, I'm not proud, I'll take it any way I can get it; as long as I can scam them into my own purposes.

What's a Johnnie Walker go for nowadays? After Lukashenko takes his cut, I imagine it must be pretty pricey.

BTW - Where are you buying your prosciutto lately? :)

[Uncle Volodya]

Thanks, Uncle-V. Actually for P4 P I prefer German FKK's to the other options (have reported on some of my experiences in the FKK forums here). Very reasonable price and beautiful and sometimes stunning women with high quality service if you know how to find them. The SEA and Russia I was thinking mostly for freebies (I like the adventure and thrill of it even though I know it will probably costs more than P4 P in the end). I like something that DavidVanSchuma or YummyPL did and reported here. So my question was basically if it is still likely to find 7+ freebies in Moscow? It looks like to me dating sites would be a good place to start maybe? Is the bar scene a viable option for an english-speaking fellow?

I have RTFF before but was wondering if the positive vibe still exists in Moscow / St Petersburg or does it not worth the time and resources that I am going to invest in this trip.

Thanks for the help.I've found the dating sites like Mamba to be a huge waste of time. There are just too many guys on these sites and it takes forever to set up an actual date. I think a lot of girls are just on there to flirt or to feel good about themselves because so many dudes are following them. And then it takes more chatting on whattsup, followed by wining and dining, before you can actually close the deal.

And going out in Moscow is super expensive with not a whole lot of value added in terms of service and quality of food and drinks.

You are better off hitting a places like Papa's, Old Man, or Bermuda and trying your luck with cold approaches than wasting time on Mamba.

Again this is just my humble opinion and YMMV.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

[Peter63]

I fully agree that Mamba is a waste of time. I spent several hours on few days selecting girls with "sex" keyword, sending dozens of polite but clear messages with mention to "material support". I got 5 propositions for meetings in my hotel. They requested 10 k to 15 k for a 2 hours meeting. However, it was impossible to get a final agreement. They just vanished.

It would have been much better to spend this wasted time walking in Moscow in the street, in the metro or in the cafe looking at these numbering beautiful princesses that we can see at every corner.

I was in Moscow few weeks ago. I tested some of the suggestions read on the forum:

- Toro Grill: A lot of beautiful girls dining but only few old one appeared to be WG.

- Crazy Daisy: went there on Saturday night. I was astonished by the quality and number of girls. But this place looks good for men in their thirties.

- Papas Place: went there on Monday night. Ratio men / women was bad and very bad for a old man as I am. I left around midnight.

- Hudson bar: Went there few times but I saw only old WG.

My last chance was with escort girls. I contacted Liliya on rusdosug. I selected her since she got some positive evals. She requested 320 $ for 2 h. However, she got 10 more kg than her pics. Hopefully, social time was nice.

Then I tried twice beauty-students. Both days, I got young tall and very attractive girls to my hotel. Of course, I never got the one I had requested based on the pictures! The first one was a tall blond girl. Unfortunately she could not speak English. We had a good classical sessions. But after the first shot she left although I requested a 2 h session. The second one was a tall slim brunette. She could speak English. After the first shot, I pulled out a body condom announcing the begining of her period.

So it was an overall mitigated experience.


I've found the dating sites like Mamba to be a huge waste of time. There are just too many guys on these sites and it takes forever to set up an actual date. I think a lot of girls are just on there to flirt or to feel good about themselves because so many dudes are following them. And then it takes more chatting on whattsup, followed by wining and dining, before you can actually close the deal.

And going out in Moscow is super expensive with not a whole lot of value added in terms of service and quality of food and drinks.

You are better off hitting a places like Papa's, Old Man, or Bermuda and trying your luck with cold approaches than wasting time on Mamba.

Again this is just my humble opinion and YMMV.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

[KaveMan]

FYI. Detailed Zurich review.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=1650994

Globe on decline.

Club Aphrodisia has 9-11 level models, confirmed.

[Stravinsky]

FYI. Detailed Zurich review.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=1650994

Globe on decline.

Club Aphrodisia has 9-11 level models, confirmed.I'm sure we're all very happy for you... :)

[Putologist]

I fully agree that Mamba is a waste of time. I spent several hours on few days selecting girls with "sex" keyword, sending dozens of polite but clear messages with mention to "material support". I got 5 propositions for meetings in my hotel. They requested 10 k to 15 k for a 2 hours meeting. However, it was impossible to get a final agreement. They just vanished.

It would have been much better to spend this wasted time walking in Moscow in the street, in the metro or in the cafe looking at these numbering beautiful princesses that we can see at every corner.

I was in Moscow...

... So it was an overall mitigated experience.Oh man, too bad for you. And it is not the first time I am hearing this kind of negative opinion about Moscow.

Slowly I am getting the feeling that it is easier to invest some time in the game with "normal" women, than to deal allover again with the "pros". The pros save you time, a lot of time, but it is imo also more expensive and the award at the end (like in your case) are not always that good.

[Putologist]

I was in Moscow few weeks ago. I tested some of the suggestions read on the forum:

- Toro Grill: A lot of beautiful girls dining but only few old one appeared to be WG.

- Crazy Daisy: went there on Saturday night. I was astonished by the quality and number of girls. But this place looks good for men in their thirties.

- Papas Place: went there on Monday night. Ratio men / women was bad and very bad for a old man as I am. I left around midnight.

- Hudson bar: Went there few times but I saw only old WG...I went to Toro Belaruskaya for dining many times. But I dint see any WG there (at least none looked like one), but maybe I am talking about the wrong Toro Grill.

At Hudson I saw some, but as you said, not really worth it. But a friend of mine was lucky one night there and did it anyway, he said the lady was fine and not that old, but the problem with such small places is that everybody (including non WGs) see what is going on. Despite of being the biggest city in Europe, the expat scene seems to be quite discernible. That said, he regrets the decision of going out with that woman at that moment as the bar was full of people. However, he enjoyed that night with her and that is what counts. I told him that it really doesn't matter what others think about that, forget about that "image" stuff.

IMO if one is in Moscow as a tourist and are not planning to go after non pros, this is a good option.

[Diana911]

-1000 rub for sale till New year http://escortrus.ru.

[Diana911]

My advice is to go back to SE Asia. P4 P is outrageously overpriced here and sercie is horrendous. What you will pay here for an hour of rushed, mediocre service (7-10 K Rubles) will buy you a week of GFE with a hot free lancer in Pattaya.

Just my 2 Kopeks worth.

Uncle-V.Very good prices in http://escortrus.ru/.

[Jake993]

- Crazy Daisy: went there on Saturday night. I was astonished by the quality and number of girls. But this place looks good for men in their thirties.
Thanks for the report Peter63.

Good to hear that Crazy Daisy is still pulling in the cute chicks. It's been almost a year since my last trip there so I am a little out of touch.

I'm starting to hear that clubbing and hanging out in bars is getting to be too expensive for the local girls who are paid in rubles which, I am sure you all know, is taking a nose dive. Many foreign companies are pulling out and that means lay-offs for local staff. I think that this phenomenon MAY mean that girls who are hanging out in bars are getting more overt about looking for guys to buy them drinks. While initially annoying, it can mean a good opportunity for breaking the ice with non WG's. BTW, if this financial trend continues, it could mean a return to the good old days where girls start turning tricks for extra money. These girls are NOT hardened pros and can often be MUCH for fun. They are trying to make ends meet and since "moral flexibility" seems to be a common trait amongst Russian girls. These are all important signals for us to watch in the coming months.

Let's face it boys, who WOULDN'T like to see a return to the 90's when it comes to WG's, even if it is only for a short while. Hmmmmm, come to think of it. Might be about time for a return trip to Night Flight, which has always been a good barometer of economic times. As times get harder, the quality of the girls goes up.

[KaveMan]

So, with panic / chaos in Moscow finances will the golden days of Moscow mongering come back?

'98 seems very similar: ruble devaluation, oil tanking, dollar rocketing.

Not Scheundfrend. But that "I only travel business class / $1,000/ HR" was a joke and wouldn't last.

Putin in effigy upside-down or for real next.

[Jake993]

So. With panic / chaos in Moscow finances will the golden days of Moscow mongering come back?This is a theory that I am quite eager to test!! Will visit Night Flight soon to see how things are at the old barometer.

[Cwhayes1]

Hey guys,

I can't believe there isn't some interesting news on the cost of the devs given the new situation. More, less, same. Come on mongers in Moscow. Those of us locked out of the action because we have a Russian wife here in the USA (me for instance) are dying to know what is going on? Updates Please, especially on night flight. I remember when it was 80.00 TLN. Ah the days!

[Putologist]

Hey guys,

I can't believe there isn't some interesting news on the cost of the devs given the new situation. More, less, same. Come on mongers in Moscow. Those of us locked out of the action because we have a Russian wife here in the USA (me for instance) are dying to know what is going on? Updates Please, especially on night flight. I remember when it was 80.00 TLN. Ah the days!There is a wild inflation at the moment, the shop owners are updating their price almost everyday. So I think devs will adapt their situation as well. Anyway the real pros ask for the prices in EUr or Dollar, even before the Ruble crisis. Besides, the RUB is going up again.

Interesting to see that some relations end in marriage. I also have a LTR going on, and sometimes I also think about it. Did you meet her in Moscow or in the US?

[Stravinsky]

Anyway the real pros ask for the prices in EUr or Dollar, even before the Ruble crisis.


So, with panic / chaos in Moscow finances will the golden days of Moscow mongering come back?


As far as P4P is concerned, prices won't change too much for the average tourist in Moscow. The dyeffki who deal with foreign tourists on a regular basis will simply quote prices in Euros or Dollars, those will stay pretty much the same.

The real value will be in the local girls, who rely mainly on local guys for their business and continue to do business in Rubles. A quick check of erotic-massage.ru shows that the going rate is still about 5,000 руб./hr. for full service. So, this is now about $60 to $80 per hour, depending on the phase of the moon, tidal flows, how BB feels when he gets up in the morning, etc.

The минет в машине (blow job in car) is now about $20 bucks.

This is assuming, of course, that you speak Russian and can negotiate in Russian. As soon as they find out you are a foreigner, they will raise their prices.

As Jake points out, it will be interesting to see what happens at Night Flight. Prices will probably remain the same, but, as the Oligarchs watch their fortunes evaporate, they will need to cull their stables of krasavitsy. That will be the true windfall--a club like Night Flight, once again full of gorgeous Russian babes who are ready, and motivated, to do business.

[Jake993]

As Jake points out, it will be interesting to see what happens at Night Flight. Prices will probably remain the same, but, as the Oligarchs watch their fortunes evaporate, they will need to cull their stables of krasavitsy. That will be the true windfall--a club like Night Flight, once again full of gorgeous Russian babes who are ready, and motivated, to do business.*NEWS FLASH*.

Made a quick trip to NF on Friday night. Not the best night of the week to go but I was already liquored up (too liquored up to perform in fact) and my curiosity got the best of me so I stopped by for a little "field research". Now, it's bee a while since I have visited NF and I am not familiar with the regular so spotting newbies was not easy. But judging from body language you could see that there were a few who were not regulars. While it was no where near the "glory days", I think I detected a few girls who appeared to be a bit "fresher" that the rest giving me the impression they were there to earn some extra cash before the holidays.

What was really interesting, however, was the topic of compensation. According to a few of the girls, the NF management has introduced "price controls" and is telling the girls that they can't get greedy. They are telling the girls that if they hear that any of them have been quoting more than 15,000 rubles, they will be denied future entry. As of my last check on www.xe.com, 15,000 rubles is about $260, which has these girls a little pissed off. When I pressed them for a Euro price, they just rolled their eyes and said "15,000 rubles for a few hours". So, my friends, it has begun. The next few weeks are going to be non-representative due to holiday schedules, but by the middle of January we should see some interesting patterns develop.

AND, by the way, I just happened to be in the Marco Polo Hotel last week meeting some visiting colleagues and there were 3 VERY nice young ladies in the lobby bar who were clearly working. Did not have an opportunity to inquire as to how much but I must say I was impressed with the quality.

[Uncle Volodya]

When I pressed them for a Euro price, they just rolled their eyes and said "15,000 rubles for a few hours". Great! 250 bucks to screw a starfish while she rolls here eyes back the whole time you are pounding away.

Fuck theseRussian hoes and their attitudes. Better to save your money for Thailand. Or even a quick trip to Germany for FKK.

Just my 2 kopeks.

Uncel-V.

[Jake993]

Great! 250 bucks to screw a starfish while she rolls here eyes back the whole time you are pounding away.

Fuck theseRussian hoes and their attitudes. Better to save your money for Thailand. Or even a quick trip to Germany for FKK.

Just my 2 kopeks.

Uncel-V.While I don't necessarily disagree with you, I can tell from your response that I did not do a good job of describing the situation. These girls were clearly annoyed with the fact that NF mgt were telling them how much they could charge. Hence the "rolling their eyes" reference. While I most CERTAINLY DO remember pulling more than one "starfish" out of NF, I also remember a few who were really a lot of fun and darned near worth the money. But if I had it to do over again, I would have saved my money for the FKK in Frankfurt. At least the Russian girls in an FKK have no illusions of why they are there. The girls in Night Flight? Not so much.

[Uncle Volodya]

While I don't necessarily disagree with you, I can tell from your response that I did not do a good job of describing the situation. These girls were clearly annoyed with the fact that NF mgt were telling them how much they could charge. Hence the "rolling their eyes" reference. While I most CERTAINLY DO remember pulling more than one "starfish" out of NF, I also remember a few who were really a lot of fun and darned near worth the money. But if I had it to do over again, I would have saved my money for the FKK in Frankfurt. At least the Russian girls in an FKK have no illusions of why they are there. The girls in Night Flight? Not so much.Thanks for the clarification Jake. If I could afford it I would give NF a try. But 15 K is just frigging ridiculous. Especially if there is a huge risk lf them pulling a starfish or a runner after the first shot.

I have kind of grown tired of Russian girls in general and don't even find them as hot as I used to. I much prefer Asian girls. They are so much sweeter and you don't have to put up with the "I am god's gift to man" attitude.

[Jake993]

I have kind of grown tired of Russian girls in general and don't even find them as hot as I used to. I much prefer Asian girls. They are so much sweeter and you don't have to put up with the "I am god's gift to man" attitude.I hear you man. I am dating two non-pros at the moment (in rotation of course) and the attitude does grind on you after a while. They are, after all, Russian women and as my good friend Vladimir (no, not Putin) once told me, "the reason God put them on earth is to make your life a living hell. The sex is just a bonus for putting up with all of their shit". Which is a point that we would all do well to remember. Although, I must say that since last week's "ruble roller coaster", the older one of the two has seriously improved her attitude. I guess she knows what's coming and she's tightening her grip on me. Or rather her pussy is tightening its grip on me. As it happens, I will be leaving Russia in the new year and may have an opportunity to sample some of these Asia beauties you speak of.

[Tiger888]

Dropped by Charmel on Thursday and Friday, but both their phone numbers on the website seemed to be disconnected or out of service. I know the. -18 number has worked for years. Any ideas; has it closed up shop like Fantasys? There is also a single doorbell on the outside door, which, I thought maybe for the salon, but no answer on that.

Also if this is the case, any recommendations for a quality, well located salon?

[Jake993]

Dropped by Charmel on Thursday and Friday, but both their phone numbers on the website seemed to be disconnected or out of service. I know the. -18 number has worked for years. Any ideas; has it closed up shop like Fantasys? There is also a single doorbell on the outside door, which, I thought maybe for the salon, but no answer on that.

Also if this is the case, any recommendations for a quality, well located salon?Uh, can you say, "New Year's"? Everyone is traveling and most of the better salons shut down during this time of year.

[Stravinsky]

Any ideas; has it closed up shop like Fantasys?Have to concur with Jake. New Year's is a big deal for Russians; most businesses will be closed until Monday, the 5th, and some may not open even then. Even working girls need a holiday once in a while.

Try erotic-massage.ru

[Tiger888]

Have to concur with Jake. New Year's is a big deal for Russians; most businesses will be closed until Monday, the 5th, and some may not open even then. Even working girls need a holiday once in a while.

Try erotic-massage.ruSorry yes "festive season")).

Erotic-massage. Ru. These girls all work in salons?

[Stravinsky]

Erotic-massage. Ru. These girls all work in salons?Private apartments, but, yes, same thing.

Click on, "Апартаменты" (Apartments), and you will see a list of Metro stations near where each apartment is located.

м. Дмитровская
м. Киевская
м. Краснопресненская
м. Павелецкая
м. Смоленская
м. Чистые пруды


Pick one and give them a call. You need to call them to find out if they are open and get their address.

You do speak Russian, don't you?

[SaintSeiya]

Hi all folks,

Will visit Moscow later in Jan!

Due to short stay and business travel, would like to have some call girl company for 2 hours or a night!

What's the general price range for a call girls?

Do you guys have any recommendation?

How to find the independent girls or can only via agency!

Many thanks and much appreciated!

Seiya

[Jes007]

It has been a while since I was in Moscow and I enjoyed my time there every time I was there. Most of my time I found my companies at Night flight or Chesterfield, even in "tochkas". With Russian rubles falling heavily, I find it interesting to travel there again. I see that there many nice girls in www.dosug.nl and www.intimcity.nl with positive feedbacks on sextalk. Ru but it seems like you need to speak Russian to book them. Can you count on any help from the hotel employees to make the calls? Usually I stay at one of the Marriots.

[SmilySmartie]

Some of you speculate on this forum that the weak Roubel will ease the young Russian cuties' legs apart or the passage of their members into their young, malleable and experienced throats. That is hardly so. Prices at Night Flight are in Euro or in Dollars. The girls are not silly when it comes to money.

Night Flight is a safe venue for top quality young and beautiful talent, but bring 500 EUR / 600 USD and choose slowly and wisely for the dogs will crowd you until you spot your Cinderella.

The other day a fellow posted that (Russian) girls at Night Flight are full of illusions whereas Russian girls at a German FKK know why they are there. That is certainly true. But the turn on is there in both alleys. In FKK the bruteness of a super princess stunner being there all naked, being approached as soon as she is free, sending 20 men to heaven in one day with sperm glazed fingers, tongue and lips, both blowing and earning like a princess, I guess. And then the world of mutual illusion at Night Flight, the man posing as a worldly gentleman and the girl posing as a to be seduced companion. To everyone his flavor. Your writer has enjoyed both.

[Stravinsky]

Can you count on any help from the hotel employees to make the calls? Your best bet is to ally yourself with a reliable taxist. The front desk at the hotel may be able to point you to one. He can make the call and negotiate for you. Typically, the girl will not answer the phone herself, you will talk to a dispatcher. She will tell you when and where. So, it's an ongoing process that could take several hours. But if there is money in it for the taxist, he should be happy to help. Just make sure you find one who speaks English.

[WanderTheWorld]

It has been a while since I was in Moscow and I enjoyed my time there every time I was there. Most of my time I found my companies at Night flight or Chesterfield, even in "tochkas". With Russian rubles falling heavily, I find it interesting to travel there again. I see that there many nice girls in www.dosug.nl and www.intimcity.nl with positive feedbacks on sextalk. Ru but it seems like you need to speak Russian to book them. Can you count on any help from the hotel employees to make the calls? Usually I stay at one of the Marriots.It's hard to get help from the employees but I'll try that tactic when I'm in russia too, tell us how it goes for you. In case I find a good employee in the hotel, I have a list of girls for them to call. But if that tactic fails and it doesn't go as planned here is a backup plan:

I'm guessing since you don't know russian and you have seen the positive feedbacks on sextalk. Ru you are using some kind of translation service. My first suggestion is using google chrome so it can translate the page you are on with a simple click. It has a "Would you like to translate this page?" option which works really nice.

Intimcity has a search engine in which you can search anything on the page. If you write yandex. Ru, bk. Ru or mail. Ru you can see profiles with emails on them. I have emailed a girl last year and setup a meeting using google translation. I write the message in english, translate it and send both messages so when she replies I know what I wrote. I couldn't meet with the girl since she had some problems on the day I was available.

https://www.intimcity.nl/search4.php

Here is a list of the girls I have saved for myself that all have email addresses. There are many more but these have either real photos, some specific thing I'm looking for, have good comments or some combination of these. I haven't yet emailed any of them for a set up as I'll be in moscow in April. I mailed just 1 of them who is probably a pimp. He has sent me the photos of the girls, but I doubt they are real.

Search textbox. Mail. Ru.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=210692

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=189346

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=211010

Yandex. Ru.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=135370

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=210684

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=192164

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=206359

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=192301

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=199733

Bk. Ru.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=212545

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=213679

[Cwhayes1]

There is a wild inflation at the moment, the shop owners are updating their price almost everyday. So I think devs will adapt their situation as well. Anyway the real pros ask for the prices in EUr or Dollar, even before the Ruble crisis. Besides, the RUB is going up again.

Interesting to see that some relations end in marriage. I also have a LTR going on, and sometimes I also think about it. Did you meet her in Moscow or in the US?Yes, we met in Moscow. A very good girl! Married now 15 years. She's still the hottest woman I've ever met, and is very kind and smart too. I'm lucky. Choose carefully and check out the family. That will tell you a lot. Just my humble opinion!

[Jes007]

It seems like my visit will be delayed as I had to cancel my business trip. I will definitely report how this goes. As recommended I dropped email to the email addresses on your ads (one email, bcc everyone) and got emails back from two of the girls. It seems like the girls are genuine and I don't think there is any pimp involved.

Sent email that she is interested in visiting hotel and asked me to call. Asked for $200 for 2 hours.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=213679

Sent email that she can come to hotel and asked for 20,000 for 2 hours with anal and 50,000 all night.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=210692

From earlier I have used the following escorts with good experience and both speak English.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=206591

https://ladies.dosug.nl/ru/d/girl?sid=27560&gid=26304

I would be interested in testing the following two as well:

https://ladies.dosug.nl/ru/d/girl?sid=24221&gid=4624

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=187572

[Iceberg27]

Private apartments, but, yes, same thing.

Click on, "Апартаменты" (Apartments), and you will see a list of Metro stations near where each apartment is located.

м. Дмитровская
м. Киевская
м. Краснопресненская
м. Павелецкая
м. Смоленская
м. Чистые пруды


Pick one and give them a call. You need to call them to find out if they are open and get their address.

You do speak Russian, don't you?I wish I have tried one of them when I was there.

A few months ago I have tried pesty massage in Budapest and it was amazing.

You can read from here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?692-Budapest&p=1640926&viewfull=1#post1640926.

Also tried the MP in st. Pete and it was terrible.

I am curious how is the process in erotic massage and duration.

Regards.

[WanderTheWorld]

It seems like my visit will be delayed as I had to cancel my business trip. I will definitely report how this goes. As recommended I dropped email to the email addresses on your ads (one email, bcc everyone) and got emails back from two of the girls. It seems like the girls are genuine and I don't think there is any pimp involved.

Sent email that she is interested in visiting hotel and asked me to call. Asked for $200 for 2 hours.

https://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=213679

Don't agree with more prices than what they have written on the website. The first one is asking more than she stated in the website. Either she increased her price or she wants more from you. The 2nd one seems reasonable.

Best one for me is the bottom one 18 yo, and she is pricey. But she has very positive reviews. Check her out if you go to moscow and please report.

[Stravinsky]

I am curious how is the process in erotic massage and duration.Iceberg,

Sounds like you had fun in both Buda and Pest!

Don't worry so much about saving your sperm; cum all you want, we'll make more... :)

erotic-massage.ru is like most others. They operate out of a private apartment with maybe 3 or 4 rooms. You walk in, you meet the available girls, you pays your money and you makes your choice. But they seem to be "managed"; it isn't just a bunch of girlfriends who got together and share an apartment, so there is some consistency in the service and operation.

It used to be there was a flat fee for the "pohlnii prograhm", which is full-service for an hour. Now it seems the girls can set their own fees, so you have to consider that. But their main customers are local guys, so the prices are reasonable. And it also gives you a different atmosphere; they give you some tapochki after you take off your shoes and offer you some "chai/koffye". Some of the girls have made a career out of working there. Just make sure you don't try to put the money into the girl's hand, leave it on the table.

удачи вам


BTW - What is a refrigerator blonde, anyway?

[Iceberg27]

Iceberg,

Sounds like you had fun in both Buda and Pest!

Don't worry so much about saving your sperm; cum all you want, we'll make more... :)

erotic-massage.ru is like most others. They operate out of a private apartment with maybe 3 or 4 rooms. You walk in, you meet the available girls, you pays your money and you makes your choice. But they seem to be "managed"; it isn't just a bunch of girlfriends who got together and share an apartment, so there is some consistency in the service and operation.

удачи вам


BTW - What is a refrigerator blonde, anyway?That is funny and I am again on a sex fast because will fly to Frankfurt on Wednesday. LOL.

I was meaning that she is very cold and distant.

Regards.

[SaintSeiya]

Hi all brothers,

Will visit Moscow late January, would like to try nice MILF.

Do you have any recommendation of call girls? Cost is not a problem but service requested!

Thanks in advance!

[Jes007]

Try these.

https://ladies.dosug.nl/en/d/girl?sid=32169&gid=11318&sp=normal

https://ladies.dosug.nl/en/d/girl?sid=32169&gid=11318&sp=normal


Hi all brothers,

Will visit Moscow late January, would like to try nice MILF.

Do you have any recommendation of call girls? Cost is not a problem but service requested!

Thanks in advance!

[SaintSeiya]

Thanks Jes,

Seems a good one from her ad.

You try her before?


Try these.

https://ladies.dosug.nl/en/d/girl?sid=32169&gid=11318&sp=normal

https://ladies.dosug.nl/en/d/girl?sid=32169&gid=11318&sp=normal

[Jake993]

Thanks Jes,

Seems a good one from her ad.

You try her before?Damn, this looks a lot like gal used to to advertise on Rusdosug and call herself Nura.

I have not tried her but if it is her I know someone who has. These dudes hired her for a bachelor party that they held at a sauna. Apparently she is real.

'splash queen" and will take on several guys either at once or one after another (if you are into that).

They said that NOTHNG was off limits.

[Jes007]

It was her. But I did not pay the 27500 ruble per hour. I had her for 2 hrs at Marriot Tverskaya and believe I paid maybe 15 K-20 K for 2 hrs. That's at least 2 years ago.


Damn, this looks a lot like gal used to to advertise on Rusdosug and call herself Nura.

I have not tried her but if it is her I know someone who has. These dudes hired her for a bachelor party that they held at a sauna. Apparently she is real.

'splash queen" and will take on several guys either at once or one after another (if you are into that).

They said that NOTHNG was off limits.

[Sour3113]

Hey there!

Heading back to Moscow in a week after a little over a year!

I'll be in the Smolesk / Arbat area and was looking for some fun (aren't we all) with someone who speaks English. I've been to Charmel (posted a review) but experience was not that great and was hoping to get some more advice on the where and when to go.

I tend to prefer brothels or strip clubs so you can pick but anything will do as long as I can actually ask the girl what I want LOL. No Russian for me.

I tried to do some research but will admit not so good at it with the language barrier.

Also noticed that the price in rubles and dollars tends to be quite different (if you go with the current exchange value), should I just ask them the price in rubles?

Any advice is more than welcome. Also I tend not to stray to far from the indicated location as cabs are not my forte.

Thanks a lot for any advice or help, will be sure to post a review if I get lucky!

[Sour3113]

Also anyone know about the Rasputin club and how it works / prices?

Everyone speaks of the NF but was hoping for something closer to my target area.

And with my last question: prices are in Rubles right so no need to bring dollars (and therefore get screwed).

I thank whoever can help me out!

[Jake993]

Also anyone know about the Rasputin club and how it works / prices?

Everyone speaks of the NF but was hoping for something closer to my target area.

And with my last question: prices are in Rubles right so no need to bring dollars (and therefore get screwed).

I thank whoever can help me out!Dollars, Rubles, Euros. It's all over the map and depends on the girl. Just be prepared to compute your own exchange rate in order to avoid getting fleeced. .

[SmilySmartie]

Decided to try Charmel at 6 pm on a weekday. Arbatskaya metro. Get out of metro station and look for green Sberbank neon sign. Hard to miss. On the 150 m walk from the nearest metro exit you will notice a street sign Nitinski Boulevard. Stop at No 10. There is a Zeiss (German brand optical) store right next to Sberbank. Call the .18 number of their website and a guy will pick you up discretely. Apartment is a few dozens of meters further away from the metro station on the same Boulevard, on what the Russians call 1st floor, sort of half a floor above street level. Staircase is awfully decrepit. Opens the door and you are immediately lead to one of the richly adorned rooms where about 15 pretties await you in bikinis. I do get taken aback in that scenery for a second, I admit. I saw a number of doables, but my eye immediately was captured by a very young looking, slender, petite black haired Slavian beauty, who I picked without further ado. Turned out to be her first day there, just arrived from Minsk, needing money for tuition, a 19 year old stunner, 1,66 m, 44 kg, with small natural breasts, all shaven. She was energetic and cute, DFK and deep throat CBJ, mish and mano. She was very nice to look at from any angle, so no problem to pop twice. She also came noticeably and enjoyably, which is always a nice extra. Tea and fruits served, great experience. The rooms are ornate, which adds to the experience. Mirrors would be nice. Discretion level very high. The girls make sure only 1 customer passes the hallway at a time.

[Stravinsky]

Decided to try Charmel at 6 pm on a weekday. филосоФ,

Thanks for the report, sounds like you hit the jackpot there, but you neglected to mention some of the most important details of your visit:

a) What did you pay? and
b) What is the name of the girl? :)

[Carnal1]

I have traveled extensively through Holland and Germany, mainly sticking to the more notorious clubs that are managed well. I am looking for some advice on clubs similar to the FKK Environment in Germany (Word, Oase, Palace) and Sauna Clubs in NRW area (Goldentime).

Can some of you veterans of Russia send me a few suggestions? I will be in Moscow for a week in March and want to incorporate some Sex Tourism in Russia, I have heard great things about the beauties from this area.

Thanks in advance.

[Sour3113]

Jake,

Thank you for the info unfortunately it does not help me much.

If they start telling me about prices in dollars in euros ill just say " got only ruble " and from there well just try not to overpay (this is my idea, wondering if its correct or she will just stand up and walk LOL). Guessing 15,000 should be the normal rate in strip clubs? + I assume the room that is not covered from my understanding.

Also Anyone been to Rasputin? I would prefer this place as closer to my location and from my understanding it'd open 24/7 ? Compared to NF which opens starting at 7?

Is double cup normal? Or ill just have to be lucky?

Philosophus1 : do you speak only English or Russian as well? If only English where the girls able to as well? As mentioned last time I was there English was a pretty annoying barrier.

Sorry to all for being annoying but trying to get as much info as possible this time around and being able to enjoy and review a little more!

Thanks

[SmilySmartie]

To answer the questions: I speak Russian. The princess I picked spoke no English whatsoever, even though she was trilingual in Slavian languages. The guy who picked me up in front of the door was hard to understand, but would also guide any non Russian to the venue. It takes away quite a bit from the experience if you are not a Russian speaker. I spent 3 hours with the young little student beauty 15 000 Rubel damage (200 USD), because I enjoyed her company and she enjoyed mine. An experienced friend of FKK may write "service 5" due to no BBBJ or CIM. After a pop she dressed in bikini too quickly or went to get tea too quickly. I am not such a picky judge. I enjoy to tell the girl 'stay in the nude' or 'keep your legs apart always' and appreciate their reaction. With time and conversation gals react, even the very youthful gymnast body type stunners who can have any male from early teenage time if they so pick him. Sorry, no names: Pop your eyes open in the beauty pageant at the outset. Hard to miss.

[It Travel]

I write it here because I Think that most of Moscow mongers are using it.

Have used mamba for years without any problems at all. Not even paying any status for a long time.

Now after some strange restriction I paid a status and have been blocked twice (the last time seems definitively so I have to get another account) just for writing ten / twelve girls and some friend. Most of the girls on line answered positively (they are hand picked). When the system starts to ask you to identify you are not a spamming machine via numbers to write, it's that you are on the bad way.

Lost 12 euros, but it's not the problem of course. Download I'd's names and numbers, it seems that the system is not safe.

I just wrote to girl openly searching for sponsors and offering sex (and it's a search possibility you have in advanced search). Really strange. More: ridiculous! Found dozens and dozens of bed toys there. Most of my teen cumslurper toys! Including Valentina (in Moscow), Inga (in Kiev). The infamous Mystery Tramp (in Kiev).

Only few girls were found on the old omen dating site, like Iriska. Who got one of my best photo shoots (and cumshots!). Astonished for a unexpected eye shot. Cumsniper!

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1607-Photo-Gallery&p=448069&viewfull=1#post448069

And Sveta too a wonderful chubby blondinka, just 23, telling me at 8 am After a nice fluid breakfast (BBBJ + CIM + Swallowing and smiling) that my "nut juice" was tasty! And riding like hell. a goddess if you like softies... 23/171-3/70-75... B/C cups curly blonde, pale skin... not owining panties and always wet and ready. Not a cum drop was wasted!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1607-Photo-Gallery&p=490614&viewfull=1#post490614

So how can I get back my mamba account!

[Jonners]

Out of interest. How do your reports of sleeping with various Slavic sluts provide us with information that would allow us to help you with your problem of getting your mamba account back?

My suggestion would be to write to mamba support, although I would omit details of your butt-f*cking Russian girls. Doesn't always go down well with IT support!


I just wrote to girl openly searching for sponsors and offering sex (and it's a search possibility you have in advanced search). Really strange. More: ridiculous! Found dozens and dozens of bed toys there. Most of my teen cumslurper toys! Including Valentina (in Moscow), Inga (in Kiev). The infamous Mystery Tramp (in Kiev).

Only few girls were found on the old omen dating site, like Iriska. Who got one of my best photo shoots (and cumshots!). Astonished for a unexpected eye shot. Cumsniper!

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1607-Photo-Gallery&p=448069&viewfull=1#post448069

And Sveta too a wonderful chubby blondinka, just 23, telling me at 8 am After a nice fluid breakfast (BBBJ + CIM + Swallowing and smiling) that my "nut juice" was tasty! And riding like hell. a goddess if you like softies... 23/171-3/70-75... B/C cups curly blonde, pale skin... not owining panties and always wet and ready. Not a cum drop was wasted!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1607-Photo-Gallery&p=490614&viewfull=1#post490614

So how can I get back my mamba account!

[It Travel]

Out of interest. How do your reports of sleeping with various Slavic sluts provide us with information that would allow us to help you with your problem of getting your mamba account back?)).

My suggestion would be to write to mamba support, although I would omit details of your butt-f*cking russian girls. Doesn't always go down well with IT support!I had already done it. And the anser is crazy. Despite I paid. It looks so:

Hello, XXXXXX!

Your account was blocked for spamming. Sending similar mesages to a big number of users, which violates one of the user agreement points.

Your account will not be unblocked.

Best Regards,

Support Team.

The only thing I want to violate are tight sphincters. But I did not tell them!

IT.

[It Travel]

Ha ha. Brilliant - it is impressive that you have contacted so many girls for fun that you have been accused of spamming!Yes it's crazy. I had the same account for at least six years so. It's a pity and real madness. Before you could just paste and copy and send message at 100 girls, now it's 10 a day, that will create me a lot of problems, because for getting a good nice anal drill, you probably need to contact 20-30. Or even more. Teenies usually are not for anal (it's the reason I like them so much!

IT.

[Chezz]

Yes it's crazy. I had the same account for at least six years so. It's a pity and real madness. Before you could just paste and copy and send message at 100 girls, now it's 10 a day, that will create me a lot of problems, because for getting a good nice anal drill, you probably need to contact 20-30. Or even more. Teenies usually are not for anal (it's the reason I like them so much!

IT.I've used the copy and paste routine to great success in the past, but I usually change a few words to throw off the algorithm Mamba employs to detect potential violations of their TOS. The only problem with Mamba is that is time consuming, but for non or semi-pros, it's worth the effort. But com pared to the Yeltsin years, where we only had the newspaper Znakomstvo. And we had to rely either on landlines or actually handwritten letters. Then again, those were the days you could get a totally nude lap-dance at Safari for 100 rubles and the working dyevs were lined up and down Tverskaya, from Kremlin to Khimki. Ah, how times have changed.

I've never been blocked from Mamba. But if it happens, and those fuckers won't unblock you, just create a new account. Hopefully, you have backed-up your contacts to your own HD and you won't be starting totally from scratch.

Good luck!

[Sour3113]

Nothing at all on the famous Rasputin? From girls to room cost?

It would be nice to have some sort of insight before going there and realizing I can't afford it!

Thanks guys for any and all help!

[Jake993]

Nothing at all on the famous Rasputin? From girls to room cost?

It would be nice to have some sort of insight before going there and realizing I can't afford it!

Thanks guys for any and all help!Rasputin has been around for YEARS.

Have not been there for YEARS.

Why? Who the fuck knows?

I am of the opinion that it's best days are behind it.

Last time I was there it was about $10 for a table dance, $40 for a private dance, and if you wanted the back room for sex it was between $300 and $400 depending on the girl. Facilities were lavish at one time bit are probably dated by now.

Good luck and please do write a report when you visit.

[Gentisback]

Do you guys know a good Salon or club in Moscow which is also open during the day. I am looking place where it gets action in the room, not just strip etc. My Russian is low but I can understand a lot.

Thank you

[Stravinsky]

Have not been there for YEARS.

Why? Who the fuck knows?

Good luck and please do write a report when you visit.Thanks Jake, I just don't have the heart to do this anymore.

[FruitNinja]

I've used the copy and paste routine to great success in the past, but I usually change a few words to throw off the algorithm Mamba employs to detect potential violations of their TOS. The only problem with Mamba is that is time consuming, but for non or semi-pros, it's worth the effort. But com pared to the Yeltsin years, where we only had the newspaper Znakomstvo. And we had to rely either on landlines or actually handwritten letters. Then again, those were the days you could get a totally nude lap-dance at Safari for 100 rubles and the working dyevs were lined up and down Tverskaya, from Kremlin to Khimki. Ah, how times have changed.

I've never been blocked from Mamba. But if it happens, and those fuckers won't unblock you, just create a new account. Hopefully, you have backed-up your contacts to your own HD and you won't be starting totally from scratch.

Good luck!I got blocked by DIA for some infraction. Couldn't create a new account that lasted more than 24 hours because they log your IP when they block you. You can either use an internet cafe or have your provider change your IP address.

[Jager]

On Sunday evening I arrived in Moscow and had studied the website Cityoflove under Moscow, then searched and filtered for "Independent", which left 342 providers on 9 pages.

I texted (SMS) my first choice, no reply, but my second choice "Sarah" replied in less then 2 minutes. Good English fast and friendly texts. I asked her to meet me tomorrow morning in my hotel, she SMSd back and said she can only do this if I would give her my full name and room number, which I did after some hesitation. We agreed on 8:30 am in the reception area / lobby. She told me no, she would be taken to my room by someone from the reception area and I should wait in my room.

At 7:10 am I get a SMS from a totally different number saying Hi this is Sarah and if I was ready to meet her at 8:30 am, I answered yes, and asked her to SMS me if she would be running late. At 8:20 am I get a call in my room from the reception, if I would expect someone and if it is ok for her to see me, then I should get her at the elevator. I replied yes, went down, but she was not there, we must have missed each other since there are 2 elevators. To make a long story short, she stood at 8:25 am in front of my door as promised.

As pretty much expected, she did not look like the pictures of "Sarah". She was more petite, but with long black hair, friendly face, slim build and a full bra. Nice coat, nice scarf, dressed very fashionable and not "Cheap / sexy" at all. She asked if she could have something cold to drink, I opened the Mini-bar, she asked nicely if she could have the Pepsi-Light. During small talk she explained to me that the pictures on the website of the girls are pictures of models, and have nothing to do with the real girls. The person I was texting with last night was a person from the agency, pretending she is Sarah. That person probably has 5-10 different SMS conversations at the same time, setting up dates. After a few minutes, she asked if she could shower and get ready. I liked that and offered her the bathroom with clean towels. After she took her shower, she came out totally naked, and I went and took my shower.

The session was nice and slow, I asked her how old she was, she told me 24 and she has been with that agency a few months. She was not a pro at all, asked often what I like, what she should do, which position I prefer etc. A real un-rushed session, I asked how many times I could come during the hour, she answered as many as I could manage.

After we were finished, she took a shower again, never asked for the money, which I had prepared on the table, I gave her an extra tip, since she didn't ask for it and she gave me her real name and e-mail address.

Summary: If you are using this website, be prepared that you will get a bait-and-switch, but you could get lucky as I have, it depends who is available at what moment and who the agency employee can arrange for you.

[Jake993]

Thanks Jake, I just don't have the heart to do this anymore.Strav,

I know you don't.

But seriously, it's so hard to give useful advice to people not knowing what their particular tastes are.

Like our friend here who want information about Rasputin. OK, that might have been a good place back in the day, but who the heck has been there in the past 5 years? I sure don't know anyone and I know a lot of horn-dogs in Moscow who frequent the strip club circuit.

In my humble opinion, if you are new to Moscow, don't speak much Russian, but want a good strip club experience with and option for onsite sex, don't waste you time on second tier establishments. There are COUNTLESS posts on this forum highlighting the big chain strip club group (PENTHOUSE, Aurora 911, The LOFT, and ANGELS) If you are worries about getting there, relax. And if your hotel doorman cannot get you there in a taxi then call the club and ask to speak to someone in English. Gentlemen, this is 2015! Every establishment in Moscow that caters to foreigners has someone on staff that speaks English! These days they are so hungry for your business that if you tell them where you are they will probably SEND A CAR TO COME AND GET YOU!

Angels +7 (495) 505-20-90.

Penthouse +7 (495) 505-00-21.

Aurora 911 +7 (495) 502-57-57.

The LOFT +7 (495) 507-19-05.

This is a first class organization that is well run. The security is excellent. The girls are heavily screened. The facilities are excellent. Don't waste you time anywhere else. The second tier places are not always clean, the girls are thieves, security doesn't care, drinks are watered down. You decide.

[FruitNinja]

On Sunday evening I arrived in Moscow and had studied the website Cityoflove under Moscow, then searched and filtered for "Independent", which left 342 providers on 9 pages Summary: If you are using this website, be prepared that you will get a bait-and-switch, but you could get lucky as I have, it depends who is available at what moment and who the agency employee can arrange for you.What were the cost of this service?

[Iceberg27]

Nice post and great advice!

I miss Moscow.

Regards.


Strav,

I know you don't.

But seriously, it's so hard to give useful advice to people not knowing what their particular tastes are.

Like our friend here who want information about Rasputin. OK, that might have been a good place back in the day, but who the heck has been there in the past 5 years? I sure don't know anyone and I know a lot of horn-dogs in Moscow who frequent the strip club circuit.

In my humble opinion, if you are new to Moscow, don't speak much Russian, but want a good strip club experience with and option for onsite sex, don't waste you time on second tier establishments. There are COUNTLESS posts on this forum highlighting the big chain strip club group (PENTHOUSE, Aurora 911, The LOFT, and ANGELS) If you are worries about getting there, relax. And if your hotel doorman cannot get you there in a taxi then call the club and ask to speak to someone in English. Gentlemen, this is 2015! Every establishment in Moscow that caters to foreigners has someone on staff that speaks English! These days they are so hungry for your business that if you tell them where you are they will probably SEND A CAR TO COME AND GET YOU!

Angels +7 (495) 505-20-90.

Penthouse +7 (495) 505-00-21.

Aurora 911 +7 (495) 502-57-57.

The LOFT +7 (495) 507-19-05.

This is a first class organization that is well run. The security is excellent. The girls are heavily screened. The facilities are excellent. Don't waste you time anywhere else. The second tier places are not always clean, the girls are thieves, security doesn't care, drinks are watered down. You decide.

[Jager]

The cost was 200 US $.


What were the cost of this service?

[Amadeuss]

Just out of curiosity: are the escorts and club girls are priced in Rubles or EU or $$? If in Rubles, it should be very affordable at the moment due to the immense drop of the exchange rate.

Any info from the ground would be appreciated.

[Putologist]

According to the law, anything you buy in Russia must be paid with the local currency, so in a club you must do it in RUB, from the entrance fee until the drinks. THEORETICALLY of course.

As for the girls, I think is up to you to pay in RUB, EUR or USD, since officially speaking they are not working at all.


Just out of curiosity: are the escorts and club girls are priced in Rubles or EU or $$? If in Rubles, it should be very affordable at the moment due to the immense drop of the exchange rate.

Any info from the ground would be appreciated.

[Reef LostCause]

Just out of curiosity: are the escorts and club girls are priced in Rubles or EU or $$? If in Rubles, it should be very affordable at the moment due to the immense drop of the exchange rate.

Any info from the ground would be appreciated.Prices may still be quoted in RUB, but service providers will rise their prices accordingly.

That's called capitalism, dude.

I haven't been in Russia for 18 months, but when the EUR was worth 40 RUB, private dances at Aurora 911 were 1000 RUB.

Now that the Euro is worth 70 RUB, prices are apprently 1500 RUB, according to their website.

You do the math. Sounds like a good deal, but not a blowout.

[Beerdrinker]

I have been many places. DR, Colombia, thai, phillipines, Cambodia, nicaragua, holland, CR. And I dream of travel to Moscow / Kiev. Is it safe for american who doesn't speak the language? Any suggestion on monthly rental? Feel free to PM me.

[Saint Q]

How hard is to obtain viagra in Moskow?

Anyone knows?

[BobbyW]

How hard is to obtain viagra in Moskow?

Anyone knows?You should be able to buy it over the counter at a pharmacy, but it's really expensive. Or at least it used to be. Now that the ruble has tanked, the price may not have been adjusted, in which case it would be a bit more reasonable. When the ruble was at about 33 to the dollar it cost about $35 each. Perhaps someone here has an update on that price issue.

[Iceberg27]

How hard is to obtain viagra in Moskow?

Anyone knows?Just enter an apotheke and buy. That simple.


I have been many places. DR, Colombia, thai, phillipines, Cambodia, nicaragua, holland, CR. And I dream of travel to Moscow / Kiev. Is it safe for american who doesn't speak the language? Any suggestion on monthly rental? Feel free to PM me.If you don't throw yourself in the middle of trouble it is always safe. Don't walk to your hotel at late night.

I had always felt safe there.

[JohnTodd]

Any suggestions for the Domodedovo airport area? Will be at the Ramada Inn.

[BobbyW]

Just enter an apotheke and buy. That simple.Does anyone know if you can buy generic Viagra (sildenafil) in Russia?

[DianaRus]

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[Ross123]

Although I have been to Russia too many times to even keep a count of, I have only been to one strip club at the Cosmos hotel, but found the girls too pushy, but last night I thought I would give one a go. Reading the reports I thought aurora was a good place to start.

On entering I was asked to pay 1,500 roubles. I was then guided to the bar by the host and asked to use one of the bar stools. The drinks are reasonably priced about 250 roubles for a vodka.

The girls all sat on the settees surrounding the dance floor, which I thought was a good way to get a good idea of the quality of the girls, there were about 30 and maybe 10 guys at the time.

The girls were certainly not the most beautiful in Russia as reported by others, I have been to clubs in Ukraine and quality of the girls is much higher, I would say 5 to 6 at best.

As I sat down I was continuously approached by different girls asking for a dance, they did this to every guy in the club some in the nude, going rate seems to be 100 roubles, bearing in mind that this is less than 2 US dollars, I was happy to accept.

One of the girls stood out in that she had the best body, she was tall, and very friendly and her dance lasted much longer than any of the others, she then asked me if I wanted to have sex, the club has a number of rooms, in fact they are more like a small apartment, going rate for the room is 6,500 roubles, that is about 100 US dollars, the girl wanted 10,000 roubles for the hour or around 165 dollars.

We ended up having sex for the full one hour, she was pretty good in bed and provided a GFE experience.

Whilst the rouble is so weak, I thought the prices were reasonable, a year ago the equivalent in USA Dollars would have been double, and I would certainly not visit another club, but for a total spend of not much more than $300 for a nice evening out, surrounded by naked girls, sex and a few drinks, is not such a bad deal.

[Ross123]

I have been coming to Russia on business for more than 15 years and one problem I always had difficulty with, was getting taxi, communication is one issue, try explaining where you want to go if you are not sure of the place or the driver has no clue where it is, then there is the small problem that as a tourist you are probably going to be ripped off paying several time the standard rate.

On this trip I have been using an app called Get Taxi, you can enter the name of a club, bar or place and that's it. I set mine for payment direct from my credit card so don't have to mess around with cash.

Most trips have been costing between 100 and 300 roubles that is about US 2 to 5 dollars which is pretty reasonable and there are no weekend or night surcharges.

I highly recommend downloading the app if you are planning to come to Moscow, it is the only way to travel around, the metro is cheaper but a nightmare to use, unless you can read Cyrillic, and travelling during the day and not the small hours of the night when it shuts down.

[Ross123]

Having read some good reviews about Angels strip club, I thought I would check it out, the place is smaller than 911 Aurora, however the quality of the girls was much better.

Entrance fee was 1500 roubles, at the going rate that is about US 25 dollars, drinks ranged from 250 to 500, and girls expected to be tipped between 100 to 200 for a short dance. Girls drink for a glass of wine it was 800, fresh juice is not far off the price of a glass of wine.

The bar girls are topless, and the waitresses from time to time they also dance and strip.

Sitting along the bar on a stool is free, I think I was told it is an extra 300 to use one of the large couches along the dance floor, there are also other more secluded areas and a second floor which I assume come at an additional cost.

The club has little mini shows, nothing special but I guess breaks the routine of the girls just stripping, most of the girls will take all their clothes off and dance stark naked, a few asked me if I wanted to have sex, prices are similar as the other clubs in the chain 16,000 for 1 hour or about $260 at the current exchange rate which is somewhat on the high side if you compare this with taking a girl from for example Night Flight for 3 or more hours, although some do ask for more.

There were at least 3 or 4 girls out of about 20 that I would have been happy to have sex with, but in the end I settled for a long legged blond, because she was the most friendly and cheerful of the lot, had a great body and stood out from the rest.

Sex was great, very much a GFE experience, the room or rather small apartment had a shower, TV and a large bed, with a music system.

The place is worth visiting, I much prefer the system where you can take out the girl as you can have a much more GFE experience, on the other hand sex on site saves the hassle of being ripped off by the taxi driver, and also the hotel as some will not let you check in a girl without a bribe.

[Max4890]

Nice reports! Your experience from Aurora mirrors. Mine from last August (but I thought the girls were a little better). I was to Penthouse once and found there less variety and also not as cozy. But still not bad.

Could you compare the quality and experience between the girls in Night Flight and Angels? I have never been to NF and do not know if it is worth going compared to 911. I am looking for the highest quality.

Also, are there hassles with the hotels that are foreign too? Is it easy to make them go away?


Having read some good reviews about Angels strip club, I thought I would check it out, the place is smaller than 911 Aurora, however the quality of the girls was much better.

Entrance fee was 1500 roubles, at the going rate that is about US 25 dollars, drinks ranged from 250 to 500, and girls expected to be tipped between 100 to 200 for a short dance. Girls drink for a glass of wine it was 800, fresh juice is not far off the price of a glass of wine.

The bar girls are topless, and the waitresses from time to time they also dance and strip.

Sitting along the bar on a stool is free, I think I was told it is an extra 300 to use one of the large couches along the dance floor, there are also other more secluded areas and a second floor which I assume come at an additional cost.

The club has little mini shows, nothing special but I guess breaks the routine of the girls just stripping, most of the girls will take all their clothes off and dance stark naked, a few asked me if I wanted to have sex, prices are similar as the other clubs in the chain 16,000 for 1 hour or about $260 at the current exchange rate which is somewhat on the high side if you compare this with taking a girl from for example Night Flight for 3 or more hours, although some do ask for more..

[Ross123]

Nice reports! Your experience from Aurora mirrors. Mine from last August (but I thought the girls were a little better). I was to Penthouse once and found there less variety and also not as cozy. But still not bad.

Could you compare the quality and experience between the girls in Night Flight and Angels? I have never been to NF and do not know if it is worth going compared to 911. I am looking for the highest quality.

Also, are there hassles with the hotels that are foreign too? Is it easy to make them go away?On this occasion I did not go to night flight but I was there a few months ago and the choice was limited, too many just looked like experienced WG out for a killing, there is also the hassle of negotiating the rate, although some will start at $500 and drop down to $300 and in the small hours of the morning may even go less than that. Then you need to add the rip off taxi rate to get you to the hotel.

I would say the choice at the strip club is better, but you can't take them out, or you can for a fee but I was told it is pretty high, so didn't bother to ask how much.

Most of the 5 star hotels you can take anyone in, I stayed at the Savoy and it was not a problem at all, they have have some very good rates at the moment, whereas I know hotels like the Cosmos will not let anyone in with you, they check everyone's reservation card every time you go to your room, although I was told you could take someone to your room as long as it is before 11 pm.

It is worth popping into Nightflight in any case, it is nice to get all the attention from the girls, although many will just get to the point of asking if you want sex, and if you say no they move on, but you get the few that are happy to have a chat and that is always nice.

[OnePenny]

I have a question for you experienced punters.

I'm going on holiday this summer, in June or July. I want to combine sex along with everyday activities.

Meaning I want to have something to do in the days as well, when I'm not in the bed with a lady.

My problem is:

Kiev. What is there to do there except hunting for girls? The city seems boring, nothing like for example London.

But I have never been to Ukraine before so I don't really know.

Its either Kiev. Ukraine, Warszawa. Poland, London. UK, or Moscow / St Petersbrg. Russia.

London: been there before. Had a great time. Problem is stiff prices. People know English there so getting around is easy. Lots of stuff to do.

Kiev: Gorgeous girls. Lots of amateurs you can have a good time with, compared to say London which is full of Pro's. Cheap girls. Can spend the entire.

Night with them without breaking the bank. My problem is that I can't find anything interesting to do there in the daytime. Museums get boring pretty quick for me.

Plus do the people there know English? If I need help, am I in big trouble? And there doesn't seem to be many escort directories from this country, which makes it.

Difficult to find a woman for the night.

Warszawa: Like Kiev I assume. Never been there before either, so I don't really know. There seem to be a little more escort sites which makes picking out an escort easier.

Than in Kiev.

Moscow / St Petersburg: Like Kiev / Warszawa I think. Cheap, plus there is many many escort sites which helps you track down a English talking lady to have sex with.

English is bad here too like in Kiev / Warszawa?

What would you guys go if you were me between those 4 places? And why?

I appreciate any help I can get. This is very difficult for me.

[Putologist]

Moscow / St Petersburg: Like Kiev / Warszawa I think. Cheap, plus there is many many escort sites which helps you track down a English talking lady to have sex with.
Well, why do you think Moscow is a cheap city?



English is bad here too like in Kiev / Warszawa?
Warsaw is a heaven for English speakers, if compared to Moscow.

[OnePenny]

Well, why do you think Moscow is a cheap city?I meant the prices of escorts are much cheaper than say in London.

But yes, I do know that they cost more than poland.
Warsaw is a heaven for English speakers, if compared to Moscow.Could you explain why? Do you mean because they speak English pretty well?

I've read that its very difficult to get a girl there if you speak English. Most will not pick up or.

They will hang up on you. This the problem I have with that city.

[Cucumber]

You should be able to buy it over the counter at a pharmacy, but it's really expensive. Or at least it used to be. Now that the ruble has tanked, the price may not have been adjusted, in which case it would be a bit more reasonable. When the ruble was at about 33 to the dollar it cost about $35 each. Perhaps someone here has an update on that price issue.Viagra and cialis are sold freely in Russia without a prescription. If a pharmacy doesn't have them, just move on to the next one. There are few places in the world where there are as many pharmacies as in the FSU countries. Generics are sometimes also available as far as I remember, and cost less but are just as good. Cialis is more expensive, but like many guys I find it is better. I also find with both cialis and viagra that the pills are way too strong. In practice 1/5 of a standard 20 MG cialis pill is enough for me, and the effect it subtle but lasts at least a day or two. When it wanes I just nibble a little more and the effect comes back on. I can go like that for week, and then the effect may last for another week. And no, it is not just a placebo effect. I wake up with raging erections that cannot be coming from some imagined effect. If you get a headache, drinking water may help. But if you take whole pills I get an inescapable headache whatever I drink.

[Putologist]

I meant the prices of escorts are much cheaper than say in London.

But yes, I do know that they cost more than poland. Could you explain why? I don't know why services and products are so expensive in Moscow. Specially the services are IMO lower quality than in western Europe for example.

Housing is also by lower standards, but more expensive than in most Western European cities with much better infrastructure. No, I don't get it.

Regarding English, what I've seen in Warsaw is that most, if not all WGs do speak English. Even the Russian strippers living in Warsaw do speak English quite ok.

In Moscow, or lets say in general for Russia, most of them don't speak any foreign language. So it is a big advantage to learn at least the very basic stuff.

[Jake993]

I don't know why services and products are so expensive in Moscow. Corruption.

[BobbyW]

There was a Russian pharmaceutical company called Teva that was selling a generic Viagra called Dynamico a few years ago. Does anybody know if that's still available for sale in Russia? If so, any idea how the price would compare to Viagra?

[YummyPL]

I used to think Moscow was very expensive, but in reality it is not so bad compared to other cities--especially until inflation catches up with the devaluation of the Ruble.

It seems many restaraunts have not changed their prices much and many services cost a LOT less than in the USA. For example, a legitimate massage in Moscow (non-sex related) can easily be had for $20-30 USD for an hour. Try finding that at the USA. The metro is about 80 cents a ride no matter how far you go, a taxi can be had for $5 to go across the city, a movie costs $5, a museum costs about $5-10 for a foreigner and less for a local, and it costs about $15 USD to get all 4 tires changed from summer to winter including balancing. These prices are all very good.

You can have a very nice 3 room apartment around 70-90 SqM that includes parking in a good, central neighborhood in Moscow like Belaruskaya for about $1500 or less a month if you do a year lease. Try to find that in Manhattan, LOS Angelos, Washington DC, San Francisco, or other major US city. That is seriously cheap.

[YummyPL]

Kiev: Gorgeous girls. Lots of amateurs you can have a good time with, compared to say London which is full of Pro's. Cheap girls. Can spend the entire.I have said several times before that if I had to do it over again, I would have stuck to Ukraine rather than transitioning to Moscow. Kiev is so much easier in every way. Finding armatures, semi-pros, and pros is relatively easy and a fun adventure. Prices are great. The girls are there for the taking.

Alas, I am now too heavily invested in Russia. I have a stable of regular girls that keep me happy, but it is a lot of work to keep it up. Kiev was easy. There was no need to have anything more than a casual relationship. It is easy to get around and as long as you are smart, it is safe. Stay away from the cops.

IMHO London has zero appeal for sex-vacationing. I've been a few times and it is expensive and quality of service is not so great.

I've never been to Warsaw but I like Krakow very much so I assume the bigger city is great. However, for me, a non-EU country will always have greater appeal for the adventure.

I.

[Iceberg27]

I have a question for you experienced punters.

I'm going on holiday this summer, in June or July. I want to combine sex along with everyday activities.

Meaning I want to have something to do in the days as well, when I'm not in the bed with a lady.

My problem is:

Kiev. What is there to do there except hunting for girls? The city seems boring, nothing like for example London.

But I have never been to Ukraine before so I don't really know.

Its either Kiev. Ukraine, Warszawa. Poland, London. UK, or Moscow / St Petersbrg. Russia.

London: been there before. Had a great time. Problem is stiff prices. People know English there so getting around is easy. Lots of stuff to do.

Kiev: Gorgeous girls. Lots of amateurs you can have a good time with, compared to say London which is full of Pro's. Cheap

Than in Kiev.

Moscow / St Petersburg: Like Kiev / Warszawa I think. Cheap, plus there is many many escort sites which helps you track down a

What would you guys go if you were me between those 4 places? And why?

I appreciate any help I can get. This is very difficult for me.I also have a few words to say. I have been in St. Pete, Moscow, and Kiev.

I think your comparison is on a wrong basis. First of alll just remove Warsaw and London from list. They are even out of category.

I think you should add Frankfurt or Cologne to the list. I.

And my opinion is if you are only after P4 p you should definitely go to Frankfurt. German industrialided mentality created a 20 billion Euro industry there and you can definitely get most for Euro with a very hig quality facility and management. You can enjoy all this safely.

But if you are after non pro you should choose Moscow because more english speakers less sex tourists. You can explain your trip as business.

Yummy,

I didn't understand what you mean by armature.

I agree with you that Kiev girls are easier I just think Moscow is more funn to spend time.

Regards.

[Jake993]

You can have a very nice 3 room apartment around 70-90 SqM that includes parking in a good, central neighborhood in Moscow like Belaruskaya for about $1500 or less a month if you do a year lease. Try to find that in Manhattan, LOS Angelos, Washington DC, San Francisco, or other major US city. That is seriously cheap.Funny how a 50% devaluation can change you perspective!!

[Smdrr]

I wasn't sure if this (or any other thread) is the right thread for this little report of mine but believe this should be the most appropriate one. I am a long time user of the FKK clubs in Germany and have reported some of my visits on this site. Recently I have gotten off of a longterm relationship which has freed my time for some international freebie play, which I find to be more exciting. I have explored the SEA region and find the girls to be great and readily available there. Having read the reports on this forum I was motivated to visit Russia or Ukraine this summer. Now recently I was in Europe for a little less than a couple of weeks and wanted to practice my approach with Russian girls online and boy has it paid off! I have come back from my trip a month ago and still haven't been able to wipe the smile off of my face! I met a thirty year old singer and a nineteen years old student during this trip. Had at least two other options but decided for more nights with these two as I was having so much fun. What caught my attention was how much these Russian women were up for sex and enjoyed the experience with me! Both enjoyed rough sex and responded very well when I pushed their limits! I did pretty much all I learned over the years with them and they didn't mind. The student got filmed for part of the action and even got a [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) and didn't complain LOL. They were both up for kinkier stuff and threesome for next times and it goes on and on.

So now I am super excited about my summer travel (s) and just wanted to let others that read these forums know that the legends are true and some! For those who want to have superb freebie sex I don't think there is a better place that I have been to. I didn't have steamier sex with any of my "western" girlfriends. Let the adventure begin!.

[Smdrr]

I have a question for my American friends regarding visa for Russia. The website states that as part of their documents they need "Confirmation of the hotel reservation, a contract for provision of tourist services, confirmation of reception of the tourist. The above mentioned documents shall have register number from the Uniform Federal Register of the Tour Operators of the Russian Federal Tourism Agency and the seal of the host organization. " I don't quite understand this. So one has to get the travel through some sort of an official tour? Also for those here who have gotten their visa, did you purchase the air ticket prior to your visa or would they accept only a hotel confirmation as was mentioned in one of the earlier posts here? Thanks.

[Jake993]

I have a question for my American friends regarding visa for Russia. The website states that as part of their documents they need "Confirmation of the hotel reservation, a contract for provision of tourist services, confirmation of reception of the tourist. The above mentioned documents shall have register number from the Uniform Federal Register of the Tour Operators of the Russian Federal Tourism Agency and the seal of the host organization. " I don't quite understand this. So one has to get the travel through some sort of an official tour? Also for those here who have gotten their visa, did you purchase the air ticket prior to your visa or would they accept only a hotel confirmation as was mentioned in one of the earlier posts here? Thanks.Smdrr,

In my humble opinion, the safest thing to do is to get an invitation through an agency like this one;.

http://www.visatorussia.com/russianvisa.nsf/tourist_visa_support.html

They basically package up everything to include an invitation plus a pre-paid voucher for a registration stamp.

Also, depending on which city you live in and which Russian Consulate / Embassy are applying through, you may be required to go through an outside agency to process your visa. If this is the case, then these folks will be able to tell you what you need to smoothly obtain your visa.

Hope this helps.

Jake.

[Stravinsky]

In the USA, the Russian Embassy and its Consulates on longer accept visa applications. All visa applications must be processed through a 3rd party, typically a travel agency, as Jake has suggested, which has been approved by the Embassy / Consulate. Depending on what city you live in, and which Consulate you apply to, you may have to go through a different agency.

Your first step is to make a Russian visa application. You do this at visa.kdmid.ru. When you have completed your application, you print it out and send it to the agency who will process it, together with all the supporting documentation and visa fee (s).

And this is only the beginning...

Добро пожаловать в Россию! (Welcome to Russia!)

[Smdrr]

Thank you Jake and Starvinsky! This is helpful and not really what I expected. There is a Russian consulate in the city that I live and in their website it says.

"Applicants for Russian visas can also apply directly to the Visa Section of the Consulate General of the Russian Federation. For applying directly you are required to appear in person for a visa interview at the Visa Section of the Consulate General on a working day since 9 am to 12 pm".

So this must be a recent development that I have to apply through a third party agency? In any case seems more complicated than it should be. But definitely worth it:).

[Jake993]

Thank you Jake and Starvinsky! This is helpful and not really what I expected. There is a Russian consulate in the city that I live and in their website it says.

"Applicants for Russian visas can also apply directly to the Visa Section of the Consulate General of the Russian Federation. For applying directly you are required to appear in person for a visa interview at the Visa Section of the Consulate General on a working day since 9 am to 12 pm".

So this must be a recent development that I have to apply through a third party agency? In any case seems more complicated than it should be. But definitely worth it:).It's not really as bad as all that once you wade through all of the diplomatic double speak. The good thing about going through an agency is that they KNOW what needs to be done and will not submit anything until everything is in order. That's what you pay them for. Worth the money in my books!

[Max4890]

I read in the previous posts that in terms of the days of week, the weekdays have better selection. How about the visit time? I would like to go there around 9. Is that too early? Any further advice about what has been recently going on in NF would be helpful.

[BobbyW]

I was able to confirm that the pharmaceutical company TEVA sells generic Viagra (sildenafil) in Russia as of 2015, under the trade name Dynamico. I don't know the price but I'm quite sure it'll be quite reasonable, as this same company sells it in other European countries for a small fraction the price of Viagra. You should be able to pick it up at any pharmacy, and I seriously doubt you'd need a prescription because I know you can buy Viagra in Russia without one.

[Jake993]

I would like to go there around 9. Is that too early?Waaaay too early.

If you want to go for 21:00, reserve a table upstairs and get some dinner. Things don't get going down in the lounge until AT LEAST 22:30. If you eat dinner upstairs, you can avoid the $40 (or whatever it is these days) entry fee and just wander down when you are done with dinner. Some of the early birds (girls) wander upstairs to see who's eating dinner. If you see one you like you can always wave her over and buy her a desert.

Have fun.

Jake.

[Sean EZ]

I've used gotorussia.com for years, no complaints. Keep in mind if you have US passport make sure to tell them you want 3 year visa, you get it as a matter of course. These should go into General section thread, it's not that you only need visa for Moscow.

[Max4890]

Thank you, Jake! From what you said it seems that even 23:00 could be too early. Is that right? Is midnight better?

Another unrelated question: there are a couple of girls at http://erotic-massage.ru/kievskaya.htm that look intriguing. Are they still a reliable operation (they used to be based on my reading of the older posts by Stravinsky over many years)? They offer outcalls. Would that be advisable instead of an incall visit?


Waaaay too early.

If you want to go for 21:00, reserve a table upstairs and get some dinner. Things don't get going down in the lounge until AT LEAST 22:30. If you eat dinner upstairs, you can avoid the $40 (or whatever it is these days) entry fee and just wander down when you are done with dinner. Some of the early birds (girls) wander upstairs to see who's eating dinner. If you see one you like you can always wave her over and buy her a desert.

Have fun.

Jake.

[Jake993]

Thank you, Jake! From what you said it seems that even 23:00 could be too early. Is that right? Is midnight better?

Another unrelated question: there are a couple of girls at http://erotic-massage.ru/kievskaya.htm that look intriguing. Are they still a reliable operation (they used to be based on my reading of the older posts by Stravinsky over many years)? They offer outcalls. Would that be advisable instead of an incall visit?With NF, it all depends on your personal style. IMHO, the Prime Zone is from 23:30 until about 1:30. The younger (and generally hotter) students arrive at about 12:00 and are out of there by 1:30 if they don't "get a date". The more hardened pros will hang there for a longer period chain smoking. Having said all that, I know guys who won't arrive before 2:30 hoping to catch the late shift and snag a better deal.

[Max4890]

That was helpful, thank you!


With NF, it all depends on your personal style. IMHO, the Prime Zone is from 23:30 until about 1:30. The younger (and generally hotter) students arrive at about 12:00 and are out of there by 1:30 if they don't "get a date". The more hardened pros will hang there for a longer period chain smoking. Having said all that, I know guys who won't arrive before 2:30 hoping to catch the late shift and snag a better deal.

[Jake993]

That was helpful, thank you!Any time Max, happy to assist.

[YummyPL]

In the USA, the Russian Embassy and its Consulates on longer accept visa applications. All visa applications must be processed through a 3rd party, typically a travel agency, as Jake has suggested, which has been approved by the Embassy / Consulate. Depending on what city you live in, and which Consulate you apply to, you may have to go through a different agency.
(Welcome to Russia!)Strav,

This is incorrect. At least for the Embassy in DC. In fact, the consular staff was very helpful to me when I got my visa and when I stopped by with some questions about a long term stay this past week. Maybe it depends on the person, but I never had to provide anything but an invitation letter provided by a hotel, the application, and the fee. For me the process was painless with no use of an agency or tourist/travel invitation. The hotel letter was enough.

[Uncle Volodya]

With NF, it all depends on your personal style. IMHO, the Prime Zone is from 23:30 until about 1:30. The younger (and generally hotter) students arrive at about 12:00 and are out of there by 1:30 if they don't "get a date". The more hardened pros will hang there for a longer period chain smoking. Having said all that, I know guys who won't arrive before 2:30 hoping to catch the late shift and snag a better deal.I am considering caving and just going to NF to get laid. Price is 15 K Rubles for all night right??

[YummyPL]

I am considering caving and just going to NF to get laid. Price is 15 K Rubles for all night right??I don't have experience with NF but that is a little under $300 USD now. If you can get that with a good girl, I think it will be a bargain.

[Stravinsky]

Strav,

This is incorrect. At least for the Embassy in DC. In fact, the consular staff was very helpful to me when I got my visa and when I stopped by with some questions about a long term stay this past week.Must be that new policy of perestroika that seems to be sweeping over Russia. :)

[Jake993]

I am considering caving and just going to NF to get laid. Price is 15 K Rubles for all night right??Last time I checked it was 12 k - 15 k for "the night". Whether or not she actually STAYS all night is another matter I suppose.

[Jake993]

Must be that new policy of perestroika that seems to be sweeping over Russia. :)What a comedian!

[Uncle Volodya]

Must be that new policy of perestroika that seems to be sweeping over Russia. :)12 K almost sounds reasonable. What are the other options for FLs? IU remember hearing about a tochka of sorts at American Ber and Grill. But that was an old report. And the Boarhouse has been closed for years.

I speak good Russian. But I really don't want to do the freebie thing. It ends up costing too much in terms of time and trouble (and rubles). At least IMHO.

[Jonathan988]

That was my second visit to Moscow separated by a few months, I got tired of the crisis, all talks about it, decided to have anybody to entertain and relax! Found Ellen on this website, very much liked her offer about tantra massage, also nice pics, after a tel conversation with her decided to choose a dinner date as she seemed to be of a decent level and fun.

She arrived in time, close to the photos as much as 90 %, nicely dressed, beautiful in the face, with full lips and amazing eyes, just to my taste. The conversation was natural and free flowing as we revealed common interests to each other. I found out that she was born in Moscow, knows a lot about history, so we had a really nice talk. Her looks made me impatient: tall, with long legs, sun-tanned, beautiful lips and eyes. After a shower I was amazed to see her dressed in high heels and stockings and something kinky red. She began from oral to me though it didn't last long as I couldn't stop myself from kissing her pussy. Her moans and slight thrusting of her hips were a good indication that she was enjoying things as much as me. Then Ellen slipped on a condom and we enjoyed some wonderful sex Ellen on top, mish, doggy until I couldn't hold back any more. She is a very tender and caring lady, also performed some nice massage, very skillful work, made me come again. All in all she knows how to treat a man.

Time spent with Ellen was a real embodiment of GFE great sex but great company as well. She is intelligent, friendly and funny! Lots of caressing, also hot and passionate, great value for money!

http://mosscowescort.com/contact.html

[YummyPL]

That was my second visit to Moscow separated by a few months, I got tired of the crisis, all talks about it, decided to have anybody to entertain and relax! Found Ellen on this website, very much liked her offer about tantra massage, also nice pics, after a tel conversation with her decided to choose a dinner date as she seemed to be of a decent level and fun.

She arrived in time, close to the photos as much as 90 %, nicely dressed, beautiful in the face, with full lips and amazing eyes, just to my taste. The conversation was natural and free flowing as we revealed common interests to each other. I found out that she was born in Moscow, knows a lot about history, so we had a really nice talk. Her looks made me impatient: tall, with long legs, sun-tanned, beautiful lips and eyes. After a shower I was amazed to see her dressed in high heels and stockings and something kinky red. She began from oral to me though it didn't last long as I couldn't stop myself from kissing her pussy. Her moans and slight thrusting of her hips were a good indication that she was enjoying things as much as me. Then Ellen slipped on a condom and we enjoyed some wonderful sex Ellen on top, mish, doggy until I couldn't hold back any more. She is a very tender and caring lady, also performed some nice massage, very skillful work, made me come again. All in all she knows how to treat a man.

Time spent with Ellen was a real embodiment of GFE great sex but great company as well. She is intelligent, friendly and funny! Lots of caressing, also hot and passionate, great value for money!

http://mosscowescort.com/contact.htmlWow, you could be her sales agent. Sounds fun but a bit expensive even for Moscow.

[YummyPL]

Must be that new policy of perestroika that seems to be sweeping over Russia. :)Putin is clearly a Gorbachev disciple.

BTW, I'll be in Moscow for the next 3 months if anyone wants to meet for a drink.

[Fabio27]

Hi gents,

I'll be visiting Moscow for the first time at the end of this month. For one full week! Quite excited about it. I was wondering which hotels are currently the best ones to pick working girls in the lobby or hotel bar. Any suggestion? The Hyatt (a bit expensive though), Sheraton, Intercontinental, one of the Marriott?

Is Night Flight and Aurora 911 the best clubs for a Moscow newbie? I read a post mentioning price limits established by the management of NF (15,000 roubles). Is that really in place?

I thank any advice!

Best,

Fabio

[Jake993]

Hi gents,

I'll be visiting Moscow for the first time at the end of this month. For one full week! Quite excited about it. I was wondering which hotels are currently the best ones to pick working girls in the lobby or hotel bar. Any suggestion? The Hyatt (a bit expensive though), Sheraton, Intercontinental, one of the Marriott?

Is Night Flight and Aurora 911 the best clubs for a Moscow newbie? I read a post mentioning price limits established by the management of NF (15,000 roubles). Is that really in place?

I thank any advice!

Best,

FabioFabio,

Clearly you HAVE RTFF!! Congratulations.

I stand by my assertion that for a first timer, you should stick to NF and the big strip club group (Aurora, Angels, Penthouse, Angels) for your introductory experience.

All of the hotels you mention have lobby action in one form or another. Usually, hanging out in the lobby bar does the trick. If not, have a word with the doorman (NOT the concierge) and tell him you want to find girls. He knows what to do from there. And anyone he sends you will have passed the "security screening" test.

BTW, I HAVE heard that the room rates around the May holidays are ridiculously cheap at the Sheraton.

As for the 15,000 limit at NF, that's proving to be urban legend.

Enjoy.

[Uncle Volodya]

Fabio,

Clearly you HAVE RTFF!! Congratulations.

I stand by my assertion that for a first timer, you should stick to NF and the big strip club group (Aurora, Angels, Penthouse, Angels) for your introductory experience.

All of the hotels you mention have lobby action in one form or another. Usually, hanging out in the lobby bar does the trick. If not, have a word with the doorman (NOT the concierge) and tell him you want to find girls. He knows what to do from there. And anyone he sends you will have passed the "security screening" test.

BTW, I HAVE heard that the room rates around the May holidays are ridiculously cheap at the Sheraton.

As for the 15,000 limit at NF, that's proving to be urban legend.

Enjoy.Ya toje prochital forum!

Why no love for me Jake? What about FL options outside of the well known: I. E. NF?

[YummyPL]

Today was the first warm day in Moscow. The short skirts and dresses were out in force. I'm in my new apartment and I have a great view. Life is good and my new adventure in Moscow has begun.

[YellowPaul]

Today was the first warm day in Moscow. The short skirts and dresses were out in force. I'm in my new apartment and I have a great view. Life is good and my new adventure in Moscow has begun.Yummy. Looking forward to hearing your great reports from Moscow again.

I'm finally heading to India this week and meeting a 24 year Ukrainian cutie in Dubai on the way back.

Cheers.

Yellow.

[DontCareMuch]

Does anyone know of any good service near the Domodedovo airport? Got a 6 hrs stopover there. Is that enough to leave the airport for some fun? I'd prefer a massage parlor with additional service (BJ / BBBJ), but am open to suggestions.

[Nomas]

Hello,

I will be visiting very soon Moscow and would like to know if there is any updated list with girl friendly hotels. I have only found 3 hotels in some other websites I looked in the Internet but not very sure if those are the only ones. I would be staying in Holiday Inn. Does anyone have any experience with this hotel for bringing girls in the room? Thank you very much and any help would be appreciated!

[Nomas]

Hello everyone!

I am planning to visit Moscow very soon and wanted to know if there is any sort of list with girl friendly hotels in Moscow. I have found several hotels in other websites but I am not sure if the information I found is accurate or updated. I am planning to stay in Holiday Inn near the city center. Does anyone knows if I would experience any problems bringing girls to my room at night? Thank you very much. Any help would be appreciated!

[NomadMatt]

Wow, you could be her sales agent. Sounds fun but a bit expensive even for Moscow.Actually thought it might not be and tried her. Ugly and very rude woman showed up. Nothing to do with the pictures or the website.

I sent her away. Waste of time. Hard to find accurate reviews these days.

[YummyPL]

Does anyone know where there is a shop in Moscow that sells sex toys and lubricants and other such stuff?

[Jake993]

Does anyone know where there is a shop in Moscow that sells sex toys and lubricants and other such stuff?http://seks-shop-moskva.ru/auxpage_kontakty/

http://seks-shop-moskva.ru/category/569/

http://vsexshop.ru/

http://vsexshop.ru/news/420

[WanderTheWorld]

It's been a couple of weeks since I visited Moscow even though the report is late I don't think it matters that much. All the work I have put into finding girls over at intimcity was worthless as the time I was available (after 11 pm) girls were not. There was only 1 girl I wanted to meet and she replied back and told she cannot come after midnight. I even considered calling in sick for one day for her, but in the end I didn't because we visited Bordoclub which was a suggested place somewhere down the posts.

The very first day I called in to to 20 minuteescorts which has provided me with beatiful girls previously sent a girl for 1 hour for 200 usd. She was gorgeous looking on the outside however as soon as she was undressed I was depressed as her body was. She probably gave birth a couple of times and had several scars as well as a saggy looking tits. She gave an average blowjob and I sent her away. Really bad experience.

On our second day, Monday, I gave up trying to be so secretive and my friend did all the work finding the closest club which happened to be Bordoclub. After dinner at a close by grill bar, we called a cab and got to the place for 700 rubles. Holiday inn reception is really helpful finding anywhere and calling girls in is not a problem at this hotel- someone asked this a couple of posts below I hope you read this.

When we got to the club there was security check and they get your coat. Getting inside costs 1000 rubles. 2 ATM machines at the entrance can you help you if you need some more cash for the night. It was a relaxing place, overall good music mostly techno, several seats and sofas are there for you to enjoy a pole dancer with your Corona (400 rubles). It could have a better ventilation system though as I my eyes were teary at the end of 3 hours because I don't like smoking. There are several rooms that you can rent for a period.

Girls start coming on to you wherever you sit and give a lap dance for 300 rubles for 5 minutes and they all try to convince you for a one time fee of 10.000 rubles+ room fee, which lasts like a 15-30 minutes. Everyone knew english which made the negotiations easier but the prices were really too high. There was only 1 girl I liked who has given me a blowjob for 6 k and 1 k for the private room. She told me later she could come to hotel for 500 usd! (Holy cow) Private room costs don't write anywhere but I think half an hour costs 1 k. My friend paid a lot more than that, but I think he enjoyed all that he got. This was the first time that we both have ever been to such a club where pretty girls throw themselves at you for a couple hundred dollars. I spent around 200 usd There were around 15 girls maybe a bit more that I didn't see. We were there at around 11.30 pm Until 2 am In the morning. Girls started leaving at around 1 am.

Our next visit was on our last day, Thursday, we again went to the same place but this time the place was extremely crowded, we had hard time finding any place to sit down. There were more girls than I could count maybe close to 40 girls, I learned that the place has much more alternatives on Friday and Saturday. I have spent around the remaining 600 usd on this night with 2 sisters. I got lapdance from a couple of girls until I found one I really liked and she gave me a good time for half hour for (200 usd). After that her sister came along for chat I said I didn't want to do anything and only could offer her drink and she started drinking a hell of a lot. After she got drunk it was easy for her to persuade me into going one of the rooms to fuck her but instead she fucked me. I felt like a toy she was using me to bring herself to joy. This is what my wife does and I didn't expect this from a WG. After all I don't think she was lying about her coming there twice a month to have some fun and cash. I left after she kept ordering more and more drinks for her.

I got 2 phone numbers but they are expensive. I have spent all the money I have deposited to my safe over the last couple of months.

I have 2 regrets this visit, one is I couldn't meet the one girl I'm looking for at intimcity and the other is I couldn't meet YummyPL. Next time I hope to visit some saunas maybe, hopefully that will be possible but I need to get more $$ for that.

[Nomas]

Holiday inn reception is really helpful finding anywhere and calling girls in is not a problem at this hotel- someone asked this a couple of posts below I hope you read this.....Thank you for the nice report WanderTheWorld. I will try to explore the NF first and also try some other local girls while I am in Moscow for next week. I will try to write a report afterwards with my experience. It seems that there are a lot of choices but needs much time to explore each one of them. Thank you again for your report! It was really helpful!

[Hotzo]

Hi,

Will visit Moscow in early June for 1 week, would like to find some mature Russian beauty for some nights.

Possible for DUO as well!

Do you guys have any recommendation?

Have tried some very attractive mature beauty in Spain but cost about 2-300 Euro 2 hours!

What's the price range in Moscow?

ThanksHi,

I'm currently again in Moscow and I would say its minimum same but more realistic a higher price compared to Spain.

Do not believe Moscow (at least city center) is cheap. You can have it cheaper when staying outside of the city center.

Regards.

Hotzo

[ShawMan74]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to drop a quick note on here to introduce myself. I am the same shawman on the Argentina boards. If you read some of what I wrote over there please don't hold it against me. Just because I sound like a bitter cynical azz doesn't mean I'm in a bad mood. LOL I am going to take a trip to Moscow here in July and I want to lay the groundwork and do ton of prep / research to make the most of my experience. So I'm going to be contributing where I can so yall good folks can get comfortable with me.

I know that there seems to be a global talent drain as of the last several years. I am wondering how hard it has hit the USSR? I mean, with the financial crash, many girls just dropped out because the juice wasn't worth the squeeze (pun intended hehe). So since the QE introduced as a response to the crisis, women have found an abundance of state programs to take advantage of since those times. Couple that with an aging provider population and a dwindling female population works wide, and I think we are on the cusp of a dark age in our little hobby. Have I said yet this hour how much I miss Prague 2000?

I'm just a simple dude who like to spend time naturally. The more accommodating and real the experience, the less I want to leave it casually. If I find a phenomenal female who just captivates me and I really seem to do it for her, then I see no reason to leave company during my time there. I will want to go clubbing (Huge raver) so it will be handy to have a companion, just to be allowed in to these spots (from what I've been told nightclubs are not stag friendly). If I'm going to eat out a lot, why not share a meal or two as well, ya know! I'm even trying to learn a little Russian right now (although that looks ambitious to say the least. I might be better off just polishing my glow stringing). I'm only there for 2 weeks, so all I might get out if this is a connection or some solid contacts, but that's cool because I would rather develop something more than just here "today and gone tomorrow".

Any ideas?

[Smdrr]

My trip to Russia is finally coming together and I can't be more excited about it! Reports of my stay will be due once I arrive and settle in Moscow and SP. I am looking for freebie play only and was hoping to get some opinion on what the best course of stay is in Moscow. Would you recommend staying at a hotel or an apartment in the Moscow area? The hotel prices are not outrageous so unless I am missing on a big factor of renting apartment, I could just take the more convenient route of booking a hotel room. Also are reputable hotels in general girl friendly in the sense that if I bring a regular girl, do I have to register them with the front desk or something?

[ShawMan74]

My trip to Russia is finally coming together and I can't be more excited about it! Reports of my stay will be due once I arrive and settle in Moscow and SP. I am looking for freebie play only and was hoping to get some opinion on what the best course of stay is in Moscow. Would you recommend staying at a hotel or an apartment in the Moscow area? The hotel prices are not outrageous so unless I am missing on a big factor of renting apartment, I could just take the more convenient route of booking a hotel room. Also are reputable hotels in general girl friendly in the sense that if I bring a regular girl, do I have to register them with the front desk or something?Smdrr, I kinda have this question too! From what I can tell the apartments are really just smaller hotels, and run like that too, but they offer more space and a kitchenette, although maybe the buildout may be considered a bit rough around the edges by American standards. If you plan on bringing girls home, you can cook food with them, and even the most battle hardened alley cat will soften up with a little downbeat music and some light humor.

The modern hotel is a reliable (and maybe even thrilling) experience, but it doesn't even try to be a home.

I don't know where I am going to stay yet. I left it open ended so I can bounce around and sample a little of everything if I want. The only place I don't plan on staying is the student hostels. I didn't fly halfway around the world to share a racing car bed with another full grown man LOL!

When you going to be there? How long is your trip? I fly into moscow July, there for 2 weeks, and got no kinda plans yet.

[Jorge Rad10]

My trip to Russia is finally coming together and I can't be more excited about it! Reports of my stay will be due once I arrive and settle in Moscow and SP. I am looking for freebie play only and was hoping to get some opinion on what the best course of stay is in Moscow. Would you recommend staying at a hotel or an apartment in the Moscow area? The hotel prices are not outrageous so unless I am missing on a big factor of renting apartment, I could just take the more convenient route of booking a hotel room. Also are reputable hotels in general girl friendly in the sense that if I bring a regular girl, do I have to register them with the front desk or something?Hi there,

Have you tried airbnb, is a good option for renting places around the world. The prices are ok and you have freedom to invite a girl to your apartment. I have used one that is located in Tverskaya near the metro and the Aeroexpress.

Cheers

[ShawMan74]

Hi there,

Have you tried airbnb, is a good option for renting places around the world. The prices are ok and you have freedom to invite a girl to your apartment. I have used one that is located in Tverskaya near the metro and the Aeroexpress.

CheersThat flipkey. Both are good like that for apartments. But that's also what I was referring to. Those "apartments" are more hotels than not, they don't list honestly in that sense.

[Nomas]

Hi everybody,

I just wanted to give a quick update for NF since I visited it yesterday night at 23:30. It is a nice big gentlemen's club / restaurant centrally located which I found it very easily. I used an android app "gett taxi" to call for a cub, and worked perfect for me. The weather the past few days is rainy so the club for Saturday night was surprisingly empty. There were about 15 girls and most of them over 30 years old and average looking! There was nobody at the restaurant and in the VIP area only 2/3 guys. The entrance fee is 1900 rub at the moment but if you have a voucher / flyer from the hotel it is free! I took 2 glasses of white wine and paid 820 rub which was OK I think. The quality of the wine was not very good and as a consequence I woke up with a huge headache this morning. During the night I spoke with 5 girls and all of them had very basic services to offer. No french kissing, no oral without condom, no cum in mouth, no anal no nothing. I was a bit shocked since most of the Russian girls I have taken from agencies in the past and from several countries I have visited, they all do pretty much everything to satisfy their clients and I always had great impression and good time with them. The prices girls were asking started from 20000 rub for the whole night. Very difficult to negotiate and convince them to drop their price. They just preferred to go home with having any client instead of dropping their rates. I managed to have only one girl dropping to 15 k but I didn't like her so much so we didn't proceed further. I hope next time things to be better since I plan to visit Moscow again in August. My experience is totally negative about NF but I will give it another try in the future to have a better overall idea about this club.

Does anyone have any experience with the night club Soho Rooms? Is it easy to find a girl from there if you don't speak Russian? Girls are professionals or normal next door girls who want to have fun with men?

Thank you!

[YummyPL]

Smdrr, I kinda have this question too! From what I can tell the apartments are really just smaller hotels, and run like that too, but they offer more space and a kitchenette, although maybe the buildout may be considered a bit rough around the edges by American standards. If you plan on bringing girls home, you can cook food with them, and even the most battle hardened alley cat will soften up with a little downbeat music and some light humor.

The modern hotel is a reliable (and maybe even thrilling) experience, but it doesn't even try to be a home.

I don't know where I am going to stay yet. I left it open ended so I can bounce around and sample a little of everything if I want. The only place I don't plan on staying is the student hostels. I didn't fly halfway around the world to share a racing car bed with another full grown man LOL!

When you going to be there? How long is your trip? I fly into moscow July, there for 2 weeks, and got no kinda plans yet.I like apartments. I used airbnb on all my trips until I established a relationship with a few apartment owners. After that I just contacted the owner directly. I have stayed at maybe 10 different apartments in Moscow.

From my experience throughout Europe, pros prefer hotels and "freebies" prefer apartments in general. I think because pros feel safer at hotels and freebies don't feel like prostitutes if they go to an apartment. Of course that is a generality. For me, if you are staying for only a couple of days, I'd get a hotel. If you are staying a week or more, get a apartment. The apartments I have stayed in have been real apartments. If you pay attention on airbnb, you can tell the difference.

Cooking together or offering to make the girl dinner is a great way to get them to your apartment. I believe any Russian girl that is willing to go to your apartment is prepared to have sex with you if you play your cards right. Doing something together and the more relaxed, intimte setting of the apartment is great for this. All my apartments have had real kitchens and were well stocked with necessary tools for preparing a meal, or cooking brownies (great thing to do!), or just sipping wine in front of the TV. It is especially nice if communication is limited between you two because of language limitations. And girls seem to respond well to you helping them open something or stir something by stepping up from behind them and reaching your arms around them

This is a big part of my game.

[Smdrr]

Thanks ShawMan and Jorge for the responses. For now I am slightly leaning towards the apartments. I think the options are more open and cozy setting may give the feeling of intimacy but at the same time doesn't convey the "luxury" feeling of a hotel, which can be a big positive. Anybody has any good options for apartments in Moscow who would like to share?



When you going to be there? How long is your trip? I fly into moscow July, there for 2 weeks, and got no kinda plans yet.I am going mid June and will be back for more in August. While we can't meet PM me so we can exchange information. I have a feeling it is going to be a great adventure!

[ShawMan74]

Hi everybody,

I just wanted to give a quick update for NF since I visited it yesterday night at 23:30. It is a nice big gentlemen's club / restaurant centrally located which I found it very easily. I used an android app "gett taxi" to call for a cub, and worked perfect for me. The weather the past few days is rainy so the club for Saturday night was surprisingly empty. There were about 15 girls and most of them over 30 years old and average looking! There was nobody at the restaurant and in the VIP area only 2/3 guys. The entrance fee is 1900 rub at the moment but if you have a voucher / flyer from the hotel it is free! I took 2 glasses of white wine and paid 820 rub which was OK I think. The quality of the wine was not very good and as a consequence I woke up with a huge headache this morning. During the night I spoke with 5 girls and all of them had very basic services to offer. No french kissing, no oral without condom, no cum in mouth, no anal no nothing. I was a bit shocked since most of the Russian girls I have taken from agencies in the past and from several countries I have visited, they all do pretty much everything to satisfy their clients and I always had great impression and good time with them. The prices girls were asking started from 20000 rub for the whole night. Very difficult to negotiate and convince them to drop their price. They just preferred to go home with having any client instead of dropping their rates. I managed to have only one girl dropping to 15 k but I didn't like her so much so we didn't proceed further. I hope next time things to be better since I plan to visit Moscow again in August. My experience is totally negative about NF but I will give it another try in the future to have a better overall idea about this club.

Does anyone have any experience with the night club Soho Rooms? Is it easy to find a girl from there if you don't speak Russian? Girls are professionals or normal next door girls who want to have fun with men?

Thank you!Thank you for sharing this. The negative reviews are every bit as important if not a little more so. I wrote a piece on ISG that explains what is going on, a I see it - http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1074-What-Country-has-the-Best-Women-for-LTR.


I like apartments. I used airbnb on all my trips until I established a relationship with a few apartment owners. After that I just contacted the owner directly. I have stayed at maybe 10 different apartments in Moscow.

From my experience throughout Europe, pros prefer hotels and "freebies" prefer apartments in general. I think because pros feel safer at hotels and freebies don't feel like prostitutes if they go to an apartment. Of course that is a generality. For me, if you are staying for only a couple of days, I'd get a hotel. If you are staying a week or more, get a apartment. The apartments I have stayed in have been real apartments. If you pay attention on airbnb, you can tell the difference.

Cooking together or offering to make the girl dinner is a great way to get them to your apartment. I believe any Russian girl that is willing to go to your apartment is prepared to have sex with you if you play your cards right. Doing something together and the more relaxed, intimte setting of the apartment is great for this. All my apartments have had real kitchens and were well stocked with necessary tools for preparing a meal, or cooking brownies (great thing to do!), or just sipping wine in front of the TV. It is especially nice if communication is limited between you two because of language limitations. And girls seem to respond well to you helping them open something or stir something by stepping up from behind them and reaching your arms around them

This is a big part of my game.That's what I call "a power move"! I love it man, you and I think a lot alike I've used flipkey in south America. The kitchenettes always leave much to be desired. But it seems like you've hit a few home-runs with airbnb, so I'm going to give them a shot this time. Thanks for the tip, and great insights overall. I don't speak Russian, but I am going to try. If you have any hookups for an apartment with a good, well stocked kitchen, please let me know. I'm there for 2 weeks in July.


Thanks ShawMan and Jorge for the responses. For now I am slightly leaning towards the apartments. I think the options are more open and cozy setting may give the feeling of intimacy but at the same time doesn't convey the "luxury" feeling of a hotel, which can be a big positive. Anybody has any good options for apartments in Moscow who would like to share?

I am going mid June and will be back for more in August. While we can't meet PM me so we can exchange information. I have a feeling it is going to be a great adventure!Awww buddy, this sounds like game on! I am so excited about this trip. I'm trying to learn a little Russian before I go. I can't PM just yet because I haven't paid the 20 bucks to become a member, but I'm thinking I might just do that hehe you'll have to give me some intel about the dance clubs and nightspots. I'm a techno freak and I'm kinda paranoid that they won't let me into the clubs. I wonder if I could pay a girl to be my date so I can get in? I want to stay in the city center so I can be right next to all the action. I can't wait for this man!

[YummyPL]

That's what I call "a power move"! I love it man, you and I think a lot alike I've used flipkey in south America. The kitchenettes always leave much to be desired. But it seems like you've hit a few home-runs with airbnb, so I'm going to give them a shot this time. Thanks for the tip, and great insights overall. I don't speak Russian, but I am going to try. If you have any hookups for an apartment with a good, well stocked kitchen, please let me know. I'm there for 2 weeks in July.
I'm happy to recommend a couple of places but not on the open forum.

[ShawMan74]

I'm happy to recommend a couple of places but not on the open forum.

Thanks ShawMan,

I am going mid June and will be back for more in August. While we can't meet PM me so we can exchange information. I have a feeling it is going to be a great adventure!Yummy, Smdrr,

I just signed up so I have PM now. Hit me up!

[YummyPL]

Jake and others have mentioned the GetTaxi phone app in the past, but 'the Moscow based company Yandex also has a taxi app that is as good or better. I have used it a dozen times and it is super easy. And from what the locals tell me, a lot more taxi drivers use Yandex Taxi than GetTaxi.

I can recommend all of Yandex's stuff for Moscow. Their navigator is much better with Moscow's fucked up address system, their translator is much better than google translate for Russian, and their Yandex City application is great for finding stuff you need (restaurants, shopping). All are available in English. I highly recommend them.

[Uncle Volodya]

Jake and others have mentioned the GetTaxi phone app in the past, but 'the Moscow based company Yandex also has a taxi app that is as good or better. I have used it a dozen times and it is super easy. And from what the locals tell me, a lot more taxi drivers use Yandex Taxi than GetTaxi.

I can recommend all of Yandex's stuff for Moscow. Their navigator is much better with Moscow's fucked up address system, their translator is much better than google translate for Russian, and their Yandex City application is great for finding stuff you need (restaurants, shopping). All are available in English. I highly recommend them.Uber is in Moscow and works very well too.

I use city taxi 500 50 50. Not sure if it works if you don't speak Russian though. Prices seemed to have gone down. Just got a ride form Domodedovo Airport to my apartment in the center for less than 1 K.

[YummyPL]

Uber is in Moscow and works very well too.

I use city taxi 500 50 50. Not sure if it works if you don't speak Russian though. Prices seemed to have gone down. Just got a ride form Domodedovo Airport to my apartment in the center for less than 1 K.I have used the number in the past. They used to be all I used to go to and from airport. If you ask they can usually put on an English speaker.

Yandex Taxi is about the same in price with the added advantages of being able to pay directly through the App, being able to track real time the location of your taxi, them knowing where you are without the need of you knowing your address, plus other things, all in English with typically almost no wait time. And of course the App is free.

[Goei1163]

Hi guys,

I haven't been to Moscow since 2012. Probably a lot has changed. I know the notorious spots like NF, Rasputin and other nightclubs from the past. Already in 2012 I did not think it was worthwhile anymore to visit as it was filled with tuned pro's who are not my thing.

I remember around 2000, when NF was filled with young semi pro's which was a totally different ballgame!

Anyway, I will be for a couple of days in Moscow next week and was wondering if any of you had some tips for nice places to hangout in the evening to meet girls. My Russian is more or less good enough to have a conversation, so that is not an issue.

Also next to Rusdosug, what else is there on the web that gives good girls (not necessary real pro's)?

I was also intreged by the story of Jake about the Sauna World, I guess you cannot go there alone and just have fun with 1 or 2 girls?

I stay at the aquamarine hotel near pavletskaya station, so any tips near there are great!

I will report when I get back to Holland!

Greatings!

[Smdrr]

Hey there forum!

I am having my first trip to Moscow in a couple of days and can't be more excited about it! I will be posting some reports hopefully when I get to it but prospects for now seem to be decent as I was able to secure a pretty good lineup for now, if they don't flick that is.

I had a couple of questions for the more seasoned of you out there.

1) Do you know of any decent restaurants or bars to recommend to take the girls? From what I read the White Rabbit seems to be a decent place. Any others? Also on that note, for reservation can I do them online and if I have to call, do they speak in English?

2) Upon reading the forum I can see that I can get a sim card for my unlocked phone pretty much at any of the phone kiosk locations. Do these locations also offer data plans as I am in touch will all my girls through WhatsApp or Skype or through mamba and so forth.

Thanks!

--S.

[Jake993]

Hey there forum!

I am having my first trip to Moscow in a couple of days and can't be more excited about it! I will be posting some reports hopefully when I get to it but prospects for now seem to be decent as I was able to secure a pretty good lineup for now, if they don't flick that is.

I had a couple of questions for the more seasoned of you out there.

1) Do you know of any decent restaurants or bars to recommend to take the girls? From what I read the White Rabbit seems to be a decent place. Any others? Also on that note, for reservation can I do them online and if I have to call, do they speak in English?

2) Upon reading the forum I can see that I can get a sim card for my unlocked phone pretty much at any of the phone kiosk locations. Do these locations also offer data plans as I am in touch will all my girls through WhatsApp or Skype or through mamba and so forth.

Thanks!

--S.1. White Rabbit is QUITE nice. Maybe too nice? There is absolutely no shortage of good restaurants in Moscow. Seriously. It seems that no matter where you are in the center of Moscow you are just a stone's throw away from a good place to eat. Too many to list. If you want to call for a reservation, most restaurants have someone who speaks English.

2. Buy a SIM card at a kiosk (or the airport if you have time) and just top it up at one of the thousands of "terminals" around town. Key in your number (drop the +7 country code and put 8 before the number) and feed in money. Text or Internet it's all the same credit. Too easy.

[YummyPL]

Hey there forum!

I am having my first trip to Moscow in a couple of days and can't be more excited about it! I will be posting some reports hopefully when I get to it but prospects for now seem to be decent as I was able to secure a pretty good lineup for now, if they don't flick that is.

I had a couple of questions for the more seasoned of you out there.

1) Do you know of any decent restaurants or bars to recommend to take the girls? From what I read the White Rabbit seems to be a decent place. Any others? Also on that note, for reservation can I do them online and if I have to call, do they speak in English?

2) Upon reading the forum I can see that I can get a sim card for my unlocked phone pretty much at any of the phone kiosk locations. Do these locations also offer data plans as I am in touch will all my girls through WhatsApp or Skype or through mamba and so forth.

Thanks!

--S.I've taken a few girls to White Rabbit. If you go there make reservations early. Make sure you ask for a table at the edge of the terrace so you get the best view. It overlooks the Moscow river and is very nice. Also the tables have couch seats so nice to sit next to the girl. Make reservations for about an hour before sunset (which is a little after 9 now). That way she may have had a few glasses of wine that will put her in the mood. The sun looks really impressive glimmering off the river and the glass sided buildings of Moscow city. They have English speakers to make reservations. However, if you have time, you can stop by the restaurant and pick the specific table you want. This is actually not a bad idea as the elevator up to the restaurant is not easy to find and it looks better to the girl if you don't get lost on the first date.

Just a note, wine can be fucking expensive there. Cheapest bottle is around $50 and some are hundreds of dollars for not very special wine. If you are going to order wine, you will want to be in control of that. Also, I don't think the food is all that special but that restaurant is more about the atmosphere than the food I think.

Finally, it is right across the street from Old Arbat which is a great walking street for either before or after dinner. It is a very popular place for locals and tourists. There are also some nice nearby bars to go to after dinner.

[Member #2096]

Hi I am back in Moscow and this weekend went to Crazy Daisy, Papas and Kukly Pistolety. Nice bars all but the girls there are mostly students, like 90% under 25. Now I do not mind that of course but they mind me being 48. Any recommendations for bars with older public. I was also in Hudson Bar and there it is a lot better, more older public. La Kantina used to be nice in the past but now is to quiet.

How about the bars like Icon, Gypsy, are they any better. Thank for any input.

Peter.

[Jake993]

Hi I am back in Moscow and this weekend went to Crazy Daisy, Papas and Kukly Pistolety. Nice bars all but the girls there are mostly students, like 90% under 25. Now I do not mind that of course but they mind me being 48. Any recommendations for bars with older public. I was also in Hudson Bar and there it is a lot better, more older public. La Kantina used to be nice in the past but now is to quiet.

How about the bars like Icon, Gypsy, are they any better. Thank for any input.

Peter.Peter,

You will definitely NOT find an older crowd at Gypsy or Icon. Well, maybe slightly but not much. Just better "heeled" I would say.

If you liked Hudson Bar, then you might try Old School Pub, John Bull Pub (couple of locations) or Molly Guinn's (3 locations) for starters.

Good luck,

Jake.

[LeBon]

Gentlemen,

This is my first post here, so apologies in advance for whatever mistake I can do. My company recently relocated from Central Europe to Moscow to be more closer to Asia (the-times-they-are-a-changin' so I'm new around the block and would be very grateful for some tips. I RTFF (Read the Fucking Forum) to avoid repeating questions, but I couldn't find information about some things. So here we go:

1. I'd like to find a decent AMP (Asian Massage Parlour). Not looking for FS, but massage + HJ (maybe BJ). I visited two parlours expecting this from the Thai masseuses, as usual in Europe, but they didn't offer and when I asked, they rejected, even if I offered a tip. Maybe I did something wrong? I'm looking for Thai / Asian masseuses.

2. Lobby girls. Do they offer services only to the men staying at the hotel? In Europe certain professionals rent their own rooms to take customers there, but I don't know if that's the case here and you can simply drop by to meet the girls and decide, or even go to a wc stall for some quick action (BJ).

Geezz, I really miss the FKK scene and RLD in GER and Europe. So easy.

Thanks

[Jake993]

Gentlemen,

This is my first post here, so apologies in advance for whatever mistake I can do. My company recently relocated from Central Europe to Moscow to be more closer to Asia (the-times-they-are-a-changin' so I'm new around the block and would be very grateful for some tips. I RTFF (Read the Fucking Forum) to avoid repeating questions, but I couldn't find information about some things. So here we go:

1. I'd like to find a decent AMP (Asian Massage Parlour). Not looking for FS, but massage + HJ (maybe BJ). I visited two parlours expecting this from the Thai masseuses, as usual in Europe, but they didn't offer and when I asked, they rejected, even if I offered a tip. Maybe I did something wrong? I'm looking for Thai / Asian masseuses.

2. Lobby girls. Do they offer services only to the men staying at the hotel? In Europe certain professionals rent their own rooms to take customers there, but I don't know if that's the case here and you can simply drop by to meet the girls and decide, or even go to a wc stall for some quick action (BJ).

Geezz, I really miss the FKK scene and RLD in GER and Europe. So easy.

ThanksLeBon,

First of all, welcome to Moscow.

If I were you I would also miss the simplicity of the FKK, etc. For sure.

However, Moscow is not often referred to as "Candyland" for nothing. You WILL have to change up your game a little in order to adjust to this "market" shall we say? Let me attempt to address your questions directly.

1. AMP. There are no shortage of AMP's in Moscow. But they are not the same as AMP's in Europe or even Dubai, etc. The "A" in AMP in Moscow mean CENTRAL Asia so were are talking Uzbek, Kazak, Tajik, etc, etc. Which is not bad. Just a little different. If you are looking for a proper Thai massage with happy ending, you will have to look harder and when you do find on that advertises Thai Massage, be prepared for the girl NOT to be Thai.

I don't know which part of town you are in but the area in and around Belorusskaya Metro is TEEMING with massage places. Most of these places will offer "extras" quite readily. You will quickly get the hang of being able to differentiate the Legitimate Therapeutic Massage places from the happy ending, BJ and FS places. A very handy resource is a web site called www.rusdosug.com. This is a very common site for the sex trade in Russia. In the top right corner you can choose a language (EU, EN, DE). Look for the pair of hands in the top row of icons. If the language switches back to Russia once you are on the massage parlor section, just select EN again and you will see many listing of girls who SPEAK ENGLISH and work out of massage places. This is a very good place to start if you are new to Moscow and have limited Russian language skills. Another ICON is the one labeled "Salons". This will take you to listings of both AMP's as well as apartments for sex that happen to be called "salons". If you are prepared to do a little trial and error investigation, I am confident that you will find what you are looking for.

2. Lobby Girls. This is an evolving topic. Traditionally (going back to Soviet times), lobby girls were there for patrons of the hotel. Since the fall of the USSR, things have evolved somewhat and it really varies by hotel. Usually, the girls have a deal with hotel security to keep everything on the up and up. You are free to meet girls in the lobby and take them offsite, but I have found that there are fewer and fewer girls working the hotel lobbies. What you describe in Europe is simply not the case in Moscow anymore. IMHO you are better off going to a salon.

[ShawMan74]

LeBon,

First of all, welcome to Moscow.

If I were you I would also miss the simplicity of the FKK, etc. For sure.

However, Moscow is not often referred to as "Candyland" for nothing. You WILL have to change up your game a little in order to adjust to this "market" shall we say? Let me attempt to address your questions directly.

1. AMP. There are no shortage of AMP's in Moscow. But they are not the same as AMP's in Europe or even Dubai, etc. The "A" in AMP in Moscow mean CENTRAL Asia so were are talking Uzbek, Kazak, Tajik, etc, etc. Which is not bad. Just a little different. If you are looking for a proper Thai massage with happy ending, you will have to look harder and when you do find on that advertises Thai Massage, be prepared for the girl NOT to be Thai.

I don't know which part of town you are in but the area in and around Belorusskaya Metro is TEEMING with massage places. Most of these places will offer "extras" quite readily. You will quickly get the hang of being able to differentiate the Legitimate Therapeutic Massage places from the happy ending, BJ and FS places. A very handy resource is a web site called www.rusdosug.com. This is a very common site for the sex trade in Russia. In the top right corner you can choose a language (EU, EN, DE). Look for the pair of hands in the top row of icons....I wish we had a way to thank the poster the way they do on the Argentina forums.

[Slavicgourmet]

Russian and Slavic women are from another planet. Every man who has met a Russian or a Slavic woman can confirm this point.

Anyway I will share with you an extraordinary story.

June the 5th some Ludmilla (name changed) on a dating site wrote me "privet" ! On the 6th I answer " Privet Ludmilla"!

She answers June the 7th " I want to talk".

I come (in Paris) on June the 10th in the evening, I would like that you show me this marvelous city and to have some romance.

I am at the airport at XX. YY and I fly to the seete D'Azur early in the morning at YY. XX.

Looking at the pictures on her profile I say Yes! She write "super". We exchange our mobile phone number. Then she asks me " what is your job? What do you like in sex?

Being surprised and in the dark but having experience, my answer is "all". Which on the net costs nothing and can earn you a lot!

After some flirting on the net I ask her to send me a picture June the 8th I got this one with the message (Look at your mails, you will find my sexy picture for you taken this morning.

[Slavicgourmet]

Looking at this picture, my answer was "very sexy, thank you Ludmila!

The next day I asked her " what do you like in sex?" - She answered. Cunilingus (kuni minet) , anal, squirt!

Then she write me that she masturbates every day up to the orgasm. Next she says "I have big breasts and big sex lips, what excites you the most? And she send me this picture.

At this stage of our exchange my answer is obviously "both" !

Followed by "for the tour of Paris at night, be ready to wear no bra and no pants!"just to add a little pressure on her and test her reactions.

OK she said " I would behave!

[Slavicgourmet]

On the said day I met Ludmila at the airport. We made a round trip of Paris until. 00.

In the evening if you have a fluid traffic. Which was. You can show people all the main tourists places. Arc de Triomphe, Champs Elysées, Eiffel Tower etc. In less than 3 hours.

We drink a cappuccino in front of Notre-Dame (the cathedral of Paris) illuminated, then we ended up in my flat.

There we fucked like rabbits up to 5.30 before going to the airport.

Doggy, excellent blow-jobs, anal but most of the time was dedicated to one of her favorite sexual activity (pussy licking and fingering. This is the way she loves the most.

Ludmila is a living fountain. Never in my life have I met a female producing as much fluid. Our sheets were soaked.

After a last doggy on my balcony with a partial view of Paris and a coffee I brought her to the airport.

We kissed and cuddle a last time before she disappeared to take her plane to the Côte the'Azur.

Previously we agreed on the fact that I will pick up her at the airport on the return trip.

[Slavicgourmet]

Catching the opportunity for a follow up of this sexual treasure directly imported from Candyland, I spontaneously decided to take some days of holidays in the south. I booked on the spot a flight to join her in her hotel.

Hereunder a summary of her visit in France. A crazy week.

IMHO this Russian woman has globally a rather submissive character.

Sexually she is ready for all. Really wild. Ludmilla loves anal. You can have sex with her in every known positions.

Her favorite thing is cunnilingus and fingering, up to fisting. Then she comes like crazy and repeatedly. She is multi-orgasmic and constantly squirts. She is always "wet"(mokraya) day and night.

All the time we were together on the seeôte the'Azur Ludmilla has agreed without difficulties to wear nothing under her dress;.

She even flied back from Nizza airport to Paris and then to Moscow. Naked under her dress.

Furthermore we were several times in swingers club where she had a lot of fun and great time- She discovered or shaped many stuff which were latent in her personality.

For example as after dinner we drive the highway she was fully naked in the car until we got to the club.

[AhmedB75]

Hi guys,

I haven't been to Moscow since 2012. Probably a lot has changed. I know the notorious spots like NF, Rasputin and other nightclubs from the past. Already in 2012 I did not think it was worthwhile anymore to visit as it was filled with tuned pro's who are not my thing.
I remember around 2000, when NF was filled with young semi pro's which was a totally different ballgame!
Anyway, I will be for a couple of days in Moscow next week and was wondering if any of you had some tips for nice places to hangout in the evening to meet girls. My Russian is more or less good enough to have a conversation, so that is not an issue.
Also next to Rusdosug, what else is there on the web that gives good girls (not necessary real pro's)?
I was also intreged by the story of Jake about the Sauna World, I guess you cannot go there alone and just have fun with 1 or 2 girls?
I stay at the aquamarine hotel near pavletskaya station, so any tips near there are great!
I will report when I get back to Holland!

Greatings!Hi,

I also consider staying at Aquamarine Hotel during my Moscow trip in September. Would appreciate your info about this hotel, girl-friendly or any problems bringing girls to the room?

Last time in 2013 I was staying at Katerina City Hotel, which is not far from Aquamarine. I called some black girls from "intimcity. NL" and it worked fine for me.

Thank you in advance.

[YummyPL]

Saturday ends 13 great weeks in Moscow. Only 4 girls but I am too into my girlfriend to give it up. Oh well.

How are you doing shawman?

[ShawMan74]

Saturday ends 13 great weeks in Moscow. Only 4 girls but I am too into my girlfriend to give it up. Oh well.

How are you doing shawman?Just landed today, got here around 1-ish, got BADLLLY scammed by the taxi (I will write something about this later), got money changed (airport rates were at 44/1 city rates are 55/1. You be the judge LOL), did grocery shopping, got cleaned up. Then passed out and just woke up now haha!

SO, going to shave, make dinner, and jump online to see where I can go for a little fun tonight! I come home early, go back to bed, and get a VERY early start on tomorrow!!

[ShawMan74]

Ok, so here is the scoop. I landed on wed, and you saw that report. At first I was kinda pissed off because the scene is too tucked away where you can't really find it unless you speak Russian (since you can't trust the cabs and you can't get to the location with confidence unless you do speak Russian, and what about after the session, is it dark out? Is it safe? How am I going to get another trustworthy cab at this hour? Yada yada yada ... to be fair all that bitching took place wed night, my forst night, and at 1am. what can I say, I was in a bad mood.)

Thurs was a new day. I woke up early, worked out for an hour, walked to that red brick repurposed industrial area just before that ugly looking colossus at the end of the river peir. Went the gigantic cathedral, walked around the gardens there, walked to the national library and went in there for a bit, then finally made it over to st basil's cathedral, and called it a day.

When I got home I took a long nap, woke up freshened up, and decided to jump in rusdosug and just bite the bullet on incall. Boy am I glad I did that, I found a whole new level of appreciation for this town!

So the girl came to my apartment at the appointed time. Which at first I thought was cute, because you know, I thought I was going to have to buzz her in and whatnot (get a call from the Madame, I go down there, possibly awkwardly wait outside in public for her then take her to my room in open view). Nope. This chick was able to bypass the front security door without me ever knowing. She just found my suite, came right up, and knocked on my door like she owned the joint. She doesn't speak a lick of English but was able to communicate with me through google translate app. Brilliant. The pictures are not the same as on rusdosug, but it is def not bait and switch. In this case, it is VERY ok. Small, tiny, long hair, natural body, slim, petite frame, 20 yrs old, cute as a button, and just absolutely perfect. She almost has a natural gothiness to her. She has blueish grey eyes, long black hair, was wearing black stockings, black slip on shoes, and a black dress too, so that didn't help hehe. We'll call her "M". I texted the Madame to tell her I think I am in love! LOL 10,000 rubles / HR and worth every minute of it. Her body felt so good to me, and I liked her so much, I extended the time to 2 hrs for 5000 rubles more. Doing this also puts me in good standing with the girl and the Madame. Think of it as "dropping another marble in the jar".

I did the whole thing where I timed her arrival with my "just so happen to be cooking dinner" bit hehehe of course I cooked for her and we shared a moment there. She doesn't kiss clients and was assertive about that too, but toward the end, we were making out like high school sweethearts and she even gave me her personal phone number. Google translate is awesome BTW. She insisted on cooking me dinner next time. Even though time was up and she had to go, she didn't just bolt out the door, she hung back for a while. Its almost as if she enjoyed her time with me or something. Go figure. "and the academy award for best actress goes to. "M" oh but thing, even at that price there is no BBBJ, and I can tell she is still young and skittish, so I didn't even try to make that happen. Maybe next time, we'll see.

So yesterday I took off by default. I walked the cathedral square in kremlin (after waiting in line forever for the armory, palace and all that, and finally giving up. The police blockade explains to me that service is inefficient for a very real reason of keeping security in areas while being able to monetize the state grounds. Not too many people end up getting to do those tours because they just wait you out). After that I went to the national history museum. And by the end of that I was so burned out on museums that everything is just starting to blur together for me. I don't speak Russian and I am not getting much out of any of it at this point. I walked home and passed out around 8 pm. Exhausted. Back and legs absolutely killing me. I poked "M" earlier on whatsapp, and she poked back. She said she would take me up in the offer to hang out in Moscow off the clock. I don't think anything like that would ever materialize until at least a few more 2 HR sessions. She is adorable.

So here I am today. I woke up at around 1 am and have been up ever since. For some odd reason my throat is sore, and my legs are still super sore. So I have just been crashed out this morning, in my PJs, writing reports to this site and tripadvisor. Haven't even left the apartment yet. The light coming through the window told me that the sun comes up at 4 am. I think I am done with red square, but I am not done with rusdosug. I just can't blow my budget. I only have 30 k rubles cash in budget and I still have a trip to st pete to think about.

If I drop 30 k on playtime, all I have in budget is about 7 k rubles for 4 days in Moscow. I never did make it to the clubs yet. This town is something else! It can break your bank faster than the IRS :(

No worries, I'm not stranded and homeless or anything, I just keep Moscow money for Moscow and st pete money for st pete.

Do I have 3 1 HR sessions with other girls?

Do I have 3 1 HR sessions with "M" who I enjoy so much?

Do I have 2 2 HR sessions with "M" and maybe enjoy her cooking this time?

Or maybe do I have 2 1 HR sessions with "M" on two diff days, and use the 10 k balance to help carry me through the next few days? If st pete is the Venice of the north, then Moscow has to be the Beverly Hills!

Suggestions? Help? Thanks always, this is the BEST online community on the internet!

[Zoroh]

Since I speak the lingo I was confident that I will have a great time. Read all the reports here and other sites and was confident that I will just walk on Tverskaya street from my hotel and will find the street ladies in no time. No luck there, so went for dinner then for some more walking and still nothing. Since by then it was 1 am, and Sunday, I decided to chat up a taxi driver for the "point" or "tochka" where the girls would line up for me on the street. Once they heard that I was planning to spend 4 or 5 K they just laughed and said that without 8 or 10 K I will not find anyone. Considering it was my first night out of 5 I decided not want to pay "tourist" prices and walked back to the hotel thinking of a plan be for Monday night.

Luckily just before I reached the hotel it I noticed a bar called Mumi Troli, named after a famous Russian band. It looked half empty but had a DJ and nice music so I decided to pop in. What a great idea that was! I noticed an empty stool by the bar just next to two women chatting to a guy. Well to be honest one women was chatting to the guy the other one looked bored to bits. So I sat just next to her. In less than 10 minutes we were chatting away in Russian. By the time I finished my pint she was suggesting we should drink vodka together. I refused, but it was interesting to see that she was ready for fun. I was just wondering what she is going to do with the couple she was with. During my next pint she learned that I am staying in Ritz Carlton 20 meters down the road from the bar and her eyes simply lit up. Straight away she just said "so we are going back to the hotel together then, aren't we? I teased her by asking what does she mean by "we" and to my further surprised she just plainly advised that it will be her and her friend that is chatting to a guy. In less than 10 minutes they said bye to their friend and simply walked to my room in the hotel.

"My" woman mentioned that it would be very nice if I could buy her a perfume as a present, and she wants Channel. After I promised that I will think about it in the morning there was no conversation about money at all. They raided my mini bar big time though, downing whiskey and expensive cognac while having a shower and messing about. Then "my" women came out of the shower naked in a bathrobe, and just took my clothes off, gave me a nice BBBJ. By that time the other one came out I dared to ask for a BJ from two of them at the same time to which they simply agreed. I just could not believe what was happening. Proceeded with Missionary and other positions with one, while the other just sat on the sofa making jokes and drinking whiskey. Although we agreed that she will wait for her "turn", "my" lady demanded that I CIM. To which I just had to compel.

With all jet lag, drinking and day being in early hours of Monday I could not do anything with the other one, so we agreed that her turn will be in the morning. So here I was sleeping in the middle of my King size bed with a women on each side. In about an hour, at around 5 am, the "hungry one" started stroking me and I just proceeded with bull blown session. Missionary, doggy and BJ, to finish on her chest. All this while the other one pretended to be asleep.

Luckily my first Monday meeting was not until 10 am so I managed to get up by 8 am and order Room Service for breakfast in bed. While we were munching away and joking about last night "my" women started talking about Channel perfume I am suppose to buy her. Luckily by that time I had a plan. I took mini bar price list and calculated to them all the stuff they drank, and even to my surprise it came to 10 K Roubles. (cognac was 2. 6 K per small bottle! So jokingly I just advised them that they already drank they Channel last night. To my luck they had no further comments to that.

So I ended up paying more than planned for that night by paying my mini bar bill, but considering it was a threesome with "non professionals" it was worth it.

Considering that I still had another 4 nights in Moscow they both left their phone numbers so we can arrange another evening with a trip to hotel's sauna and pool. But I never called them. Instead, somehow I managed to bed a cute local photographer women after our company's function. It grew into romantic experience every night until the end of my trip. Amazing fun, free of charge with potential repeat if I ever go back. What a trip, scored 4 out of 5 nights, 3 ladies, total damage - 200 $.

[MrBoring37]

I thought everything in Moscow was in your face. Your report saved my vacation. Thank you so much. Now I have to figure out where the true Thailand of Europe is! Where inexpensive true freelance venues and street walking women white Arab or Indian are! We all know where the Asians and Latinas are.