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have been here on the island for 5 days now. leaving tomorrow to go back to moscow. pretty cool little place all in all but certainly not one of your hotter mongering destinations. i have been staying at the mega palace hotel, which arguably the best hotel in town. after all, president medvedyev stayed here once so i suppose that's saying something. if there are working girls in this town then they keep well hidden although i was told that there are a few saunas that you can go to for fun and games. in terms of a hooker bar, forget it.
the hotel has a disco which is purported to have a variety of wg's. the only problem is that it's only open wed. sun. i went town on tuesday night and was told this news so i spent a few pleasant hours with a couple of strip tease girls (oksana and margarita) who were in town from voronezh for the month on contract. no penthouse club material but certainly fun to be with. while the disco itself was closed, there was a karoke bar that was open so abused a bottle of vodka for a few hours with hopes of a suitable paramour to appear. sadly none materialized.
the following night i showed up at about 1:00 am after having fallen asleep in my room at 7:00 pm and awaken as 12:30 am. man, the jet lag was kicking my butt this time. btw. russia has got to be the only country were you can fly for 8 hours and still be in the same country. but i digress. i showed up at the disco on wednesday night (now thursday) expecting to find a decent crowd. instead i found max the bartender and lena the waitress bored out of their minds. max was doing his best impression of tom cruise from the movie "cocktail" and was dropping bottles like there was no tomorrow. i almost cut and run but i decided to have a few beers and be patient.
an hour later i was regretting my decision to stay because the crowd had growth by only 3. some koren dude and his coke-snorting girlfriend who wanted to dance (alone) in front of the mirror. this was surreal because it was like she was in a trace. i was waiting for her to crash (literally) but she didn't. to my surprise, she just kept on dancing for more than an hour. the dude just kept sipping something that looked like a mojito.
i almost threw in the towel when my platform the night before showed up. the strip girls had been released and wanted to party so i invited then to shoot some tequila with me to see where things would lead us. after only two shots, the lights came up and party was over. while the club was advertised to stay open until 5:00 am, the management was shutting things down."just as well", i thought. but the girls would have none of it. they invited me to another disco downtown. for the life of me i can't remember the name of it, but this place was throbbing. very cool place with all kinds fo beautiful people. so at least there is one cool place in yuzhno-sakhalinsk.
to make a long story short, we danced the night away and that was sort of fun. some dude showed up around 4:00 am and grabbed margarita which was cool because she seemed to enjoy it. it seems that in her month in ys, margarita had found a local boyfriend. we finally dragged our asses out of this disco at 6:30 and oksana suggested breakfast, so the taxi dude found a nice place for us to have a meal to soak up all that vodka and red bull. yes, guys. i decided to cross over to the dark side and discover why these girls are so crazy over red bull and vodka.
when we left the diner, it was getting light. it was now almost 8:00 am as we stumbled into the cab. once i figured out that margarita had a bf, i concentrated my efforts on oksana. i have been in russia for over two weeks so my russian was coming back. this was fortunate because apparently english is not spoken widely in voronezh. but again, i digress. i had been selling hard all night trying to maneuver myself into oksanas good graces as well as into her panties but she was having none of it. i gathered from margarita's comments that they both had boyfriends back home in voronezh so i sensed some peer pressure there. we dropped margarita off at her bf's and i asked oksana "where to"? my heart skipped a beat when she said,"the hotel of course", because i figured i was getting lucky. but my glee was short lived when i realized that the deal the girls had struck with the hotel was that they would be given a room at the hotel to share. and since margie was staying at don juan's, i figured my odds were 50:50.
in the cab i was maneuvering for a sleep over but she was throwing all manner of excuses at me saying that security had cameras everywhere blah, blah, blah. ok. i can take a hint. 25 year old strip girl. 53 year old americanski biznussman. i get it. when we got to the hotel, the sun was up and there was activity in the lobby. oksana thanked me for a fun evening and borrowing a trick from some movie i saw, i grabbed pen from the door man and wrote my room number in the palm of her hand. we rode the elevator in silence and she got out on the 4th floor after a sloppy little kiss.
staggering down the hallway to my room i figured i had seen the last of oksana, but before i had my pants off there was a knock at the door. oksana had thought better of the situation and decided to give me that private dance after all.
ok. so much for war stories. the net of it is that yuzhno-sakhalinsk is a cool little town with a lot of western oil expats. both shell and exxon have their own compounds in the suburbs for families but there are some of the single guys who live in town. there are two "expat bars" that are pretty good places to go (mushka pub in the rubin hotel and and level 8 lounge in the pacific plaza hotel) for a drinks and to watch the footie or the american football or nba. there are some nice little hotties that appear to be hovering to snag an expat boyfriend. not that there's anything wring with that. there was one waitress at mishka that stole my heart and i am going back to see of i can convert that into sex. so pray for me. i am heading back to moscow tomorrow so even if i strike out i am headed back to greener pastures so wtf.
btw. i was at pappas place last friday night and bagged a 32 year old muscovite who was clearly feeling no pain. i dragged her home with me to the hotel where we continued the party. by now we were both pretty blasted and agreed that we would forgo sex till morning. when we woke up, both of us were so hung over that sex was the last thing either of us wanted. it was a good news / bad news thing. she was not nearly as good looking as she was the night before but she was a lot more intelligent and fun than she was the night before. we agreed that we would get together when i retuned from the wild, wild east and left it at that. i just got an sms from her offering to pick me up at the airport on saturday afternoon in moscow. like i said earlier. wtf.
Stravinsky
02-04-11, 16:38
Jake,
Great report! Gave me a whole new way of looking at the day.
I used to think that Russian movies were very strange: disconnected characters, careening through various bizarre, seemingly unrelated situations, apparently without any goal or purpose and yet, somehow, in the end it all makes sense. Then I discovered that in Russia, this is just the way life is. Sounds as if YS is about as Russian as it gets.
BTW. Just how Many bottles did Max drop, anyway? (big smile)
There's plenty of action in Sakhalinsk island but not in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk.
When there I satisfy myself with by the wives of those expats. While men are out there pumping oil I pump their wives. Lots of neurotic ones due to lack of Xanax, Diazepam or whatever they are popping up. Especially love their main comments "fucking Russia, fucking Russians" he he.
For other kind of action go down south to place called Korsakov. Russian military is stationed there and where's militiary there are ho's. Main action is Friday night when they come from Kuril island. Ever banged a japanese girl speaking Russian with name Irina? You can there. And the type is small with big tits like in those cenusred pornos made in Japan.
Up north theres place called Aleksandrovsk. Again military place with guest girls looking for extra income. Russian military in Sakhalinsk is payed more than on main land. Girls want to liberate that money and they come there usually from Komsomolsk-na-Amure.
The only problem is to go to this places. You'll need a permit from FSB (seriously). Sakhalinsk has a status of "border and special interest area" so foreigners are forbidden to freely roam around. Destination is not worth time and effort unless somebody else is paying your costs.
There's plenty of action in Sakhalinsk island but not in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk.
When there I satisfy myself with by the wives of those expats. While men are out there pumping oil I pump their wives. Lots of neurotic ones due to lack of Xanax, Diazepam or whatever they are popping up. Especially love their main comments "fucking Russia, fucking Russians" he he.
For other kind of action go down south to place called Korsakov. Russian military is stationed there and where's militiary there are ho's. Main action is Friday night when they come from Kuril island. Ever banged a japanese girl speaking Russian with name Irina? You can there. And the type is small with big tits like in those cenusred pornos made in Japan.
Up north theres place called Aleksandrovsk. Again military place with guest girls looking for extra income. Russian military in Sakhalinsk is payed more than on main land. Girls want to liberate that money and they come there usually from Komsomolsk-na-Amure.
The only problem is to go to this places. You'll need a permit from FSB (seriously). Sakhalinsk has a status of "border and special interest area" so foreigners are forbidden to freely roam around. Destination is not worth time and effort unless somebody else is paying your costs. I saw a table full of these wives at Mishka Pub. All they did was complain the whole time. I just want to go over there and tell them to go get fucked. From the sounds of what you are saying, that's EXACTLY what they needed.
But man, that would be too weird screwing the wives of my countrymen in Russia. Too surreal for even ME!
I take issue with you about the FSB permit. According to my local colleague, that rule has been dramatically relaxed. Since writing that report I did go down to Korsakov. Saw the military base. We stopped for lunch in town and the girls were eyeing me like a piece of meat. NOW I KNOW WHY! Unfortunately, we could not stay the night and had to return to YS.
Last night had dinner at Lounge 8. LOTS of amateur talent. Was tired as hell and went back to hotel and crashed at 10, sleeping until 2. Showered, dressed and went down to Duke's disco in the basement. HUGE difference from Wednesday night. Brought a Korean girl who spoke Russian named Sveta back to my room without negotiating price. Security gave me a hard time and I told them to fuck off. Amazingly they backed off and let us go up. I was expecting a struggle but they relented.
WOW. Talk about some pent up sexual frustration. Tried to kick her out at 6 AM for a few hours sleep but she wanted to stay. Turns out she was not a pro and just a party girl looking to get laid. But now I WISH she was a pro because getting rid of her is getting to be a chore. She's in the shower as I type this and now I have to be a prick and get rid of her as I have a 12:15 flight back to Moscow. Fuck. Even when it's free, it's not free.
Guys considering Sochi for this summer, it seems there is no infos about it, why?
Probably the best months are July and August with schools closed and students in holidays, but....is Sochi a place for who? Rich Russian oligarch with their lovers or also for average young crowd?
What I understood, writing with some girls from mamba, is that the temperature is pretty hot, over +30C. But I contacted about 30 girls to end to write just with a few, so I will probably will not trust I will have nice holidays if I go thanks to mamba contacts. (btw Sochi girls seem to me in mamba pretty "cold" in attitude and not willing to get in contact with foregners :( )
I could expect some pick up bar out there with some pros or the avalability of pros will be only from the ordinary way, read taxidriver?
Many foreigners go there or almost only Russian ones?
It seems only austrian airlines go to Sochi via Wien, I can consider this or to go to Moscow, stay there 1-2 days trying salons, NF and-or Aurora and then alone book with s7 moscow-sochi.
What I really could expect in matter of quality of beaches and sea?
Just few questions if anybody went there or already considered Sochi to have holidays at the beach + fsu girls.
I already been to Odessa and I did not like, not very positive reports about Bulgaria, sunny beach and golden sands, so that's why I thought to Sochi, not last because not far as 2 weeks ago I got an amazing session totally GFE with devushka from Omsk who woke up my old love for Russian girls.
Kurenda, maybe you could help me? .
Thanks all for any infos!
Guys considering Sochi for this summer, it seems there is no infos about it, why?
Probably the best months are July and August with schools closed and students in holidays, but. Is Sochi a place for who? Rich Russian oligarch with their lovers or also for average young crowd?
What I understood, writing with some girls from mamba, is that the temperature is pretty hot, over +30C. But I contacted about 30 girls to end to write just with a few, so I will probably will not trust I will have nice holidays if I go thanks to mamba contacts. (BTW Sochi girls seem to me in mamba pretty "cold" in attitude and not willing to get in contact with foregners.)
I could expect some pick up bar out there with some pros or the avalability of pros will be only from the ordinary way, read taxidriver?
Many foreigners go there or almost only Russian ones?
It seems only austrian airlines go to Sochi via Wien, I can consider this or to go to Moscow, stay there 1-2 days trying salons, NF and-or Aurora and then alone book with s7 moscow-sochi.
What I really could expect in matter of quality of beaches and sea?
Just few questions if anybody went there or already considered Sochi to have holidays at the beach + fsu girls.
I already been to Odessa and I did not like, not very positive reports about Bulgaria, sunny beach and golden sands, so that's why I thought to Sochi, not last because not far as 2 weeks ago I got an amazing session totally GFE with devushka from Omsk who woke up my old love for Russian girls.
Kurenda, maybe you could help me? .
Thanks all for any infos! Hey Luka!
What's going on?
I bet Sochi is going to get EXPENSIVE! More than Moscow perhaps.
I am in Krasnoyarsk today. Staying for a week. Could be interesting.
Happy trails,
Jake
Hi Jake, no idea if Sochi is really going to to be expensive or not, that's why I posted here, with hope somebody could help me to find some answers.
Kurenda gde ty sicas? ;)
P. S. Vsio otlichno, spasibo Jake I you tebja kak?
Stravinsky
02-11-11, 16:36
Luka,
I've never been to Sochi, but I know it is a resort for the rich and famous. Many of the top people in the RF have homes there, including Vladimir Vladimirovich (Putin). So, I think Jake is correct when he says that it will be expensive. If there are any working girls there, they will be after much bigger fish than you (or me).
Plus, the place is probably crazy with construction right now because Sochi will be hosting the winter olympics in 2014 and, of course, Russia is behind schedule in their preparations. Not sure I'd want to hang out in a construction zone.
Summer time is probably the worst time to go for your purpose, precisely because school is out and the dyeffki have all flown away for the summer. You will probably end up sweating like a pig, as you sip your Euro 20 Mojito in the shade of a construction crane.
That's my guess.
I've heard a lot of good things about Zolotyie Pyeski, on the Bulgarian coast. Probably your best bet would be the Crimea.
всего доброго
Hi Jake, no idea if Sochi is really going to to be expensive or not, that's why I posted here, with hope somebody could help me to find some answers.
Kurenda gde ty sicas? .
P. S. Vsio otlichno, spasibo Jake I you tebja kak?Luka, I will surely spend an extended period in Krimea this summer (Koktebel or Sudak). I have a stable of Kharkov dyevs eager to visit me there. Let's hook up there if you want. PM.
Thanks guys!
Stravvie,
20 euro mojito? Much better to Rio then.
I am just considering, I spoke with couple of bulgarians in Golden Time last week and they said golden sands is ok, but nothing great for a monger.
I just checked the temperature, it seems it is really hot out there in summer.
Prosal,
I prefer Russian girls, but I know it is just me, ukranians are almost the same, I only had 100% perfect chemistry with russians in my whole life and my 2 weeks in odessa in 2005 was nothing special at all.
However the VERY good point of Ukraine is no visa at all, it not means only cheaper to come, but even that I can come when I want, without to plan it in advance.
Your plan is to meet and to stay all the time of your holiday with GF or also to hang out in bars and clubs?
I check Koktebel or Sudak.
Your plan is to meet and to stay all the time of your holiday with GF or also to hang out in bars and clubs?Hang out in bars and clubs. I"m a thirsty party-goer, and admittedly prefer booze to girls. (smilie)
Hi Jake, no idea if Sochi is really going to to be expensive or not, that's why I posted here, with hope somebody could help me to find some answers.
Kurenda gde ty sicas? .
P. S. Vsio otlichno, spasibo Jake I you tebja kak? Prevyet Luka, Ya v Krasnoyarsk se chas. Ochin horosho. Ya zapisayt report pozhe. Poka! Jake
Jaegerhando
02-12-11, 12:49
Hi guys,
I'm planning a trip to Petrozavodsk and Kalevala in May. Does anyone know if there are any good escort services there?
And what about the freebie scene. Are they pretty open or conservative towards foreigners?
Thanks
Stravinsky
02-12-11, 17:28
I check Koktebel or Sudak.Luka,
If you are thinking of the Crimea, you might also want to check out Simferopl. It's one of the largest cities on the Crimea and it has a couple of large universities = studyentki.
The Stravvie, uzhe udelal no kde more v Simferopol? .
Seriously I was looking for a city on the beach, not 80km from it, so I can see daily FSU devushki be kupalnik.
The Stravvie, uzhe udelal no kde more v Simferopol? .
Seriously I was looking for a city on the beach, not 80km from it, so I can see daily FSU devushki be kupalnik.It's Slutlover's great reports that gave me the desire to hit Koktebel and Sudak. Furthermore 90% of the Ukrainian dyevs I met those past holidays in Kharkov told me they loved to go there to relax, suntan, get drunk, and party their ass off. Which, admittedly, in itself is a great program.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?818-Other-Areas&p=533177&viewfull=1#post533177
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?818-Other-Areas&p=533181&viewfull=1#post533181
Once more, that make me pondering about the reason of wrinting reports here. They get lost and forgotten too easily.
Stravinsky
02-13-11, 06:27
The Stravvie, uzhe udelal no kde more v Simferopol?Say what? :confused:
Guys,
This place is a GOLD MINE. I know it's in the middle of nowhere but the place is crawling with beautiful girls. I have been dating a girl from here on and off for a few years (meeting up in Moscow) and have been with her for 3 days. Being out with her was good cover because it gave me an opportunity to chat up lots of other girls under the guise of being "taken". Like Moscow Krasnoyarsk has waaay more women that men so the pickings are good.
From what I have seen so far on Mamba and Rusdosug, there are plenty of working pros here if that's what you are into. And so far, I have discovered 5 different strip clubs. But I have been with Oksana since Thursday night (here at hotel) so I have not had an opportunity to check them out. However, she went back home to her place today so I will go out on a reconnaissance mission tonight and prepare a field report.
The city itself is FAR nicer than what I had envisioned. Lots of GREAT bars and restaurants. Cheaper than Moscow but not cheap by any means though. I am staying at the Hotel Krasnoyarsk and right next door there is complex with about 5 restaurants and bars in it including a place called Music Loft. They have a live band most nights and then switch back to disco later on. I've been here 3 nights and went twice with the GF. PLENTY of single girls have been there EVERY night. The facility itself is new and is in EXCELLENT condition. Seriously, you would think you were in Moscow. We hit a few other bars last night including a Karaoke place called "Cleo" that was (guess what?) crawling with girls. And these girls are HOT. Very well dressed with money to buy their own drinks.
Just a short two minute walk from Kleo is Che Guevera. Like it's Moscow namesake it's a latin theme place with lots and lots of girls. I estimate the Female : Male ratio to be about 3:1. No joke. I don't know where the guys are in this city. I met a few local guys in the bar and they just laughed saying that most girls in bar in Krasnoyarsk are pretty available. The downside is that English is not nearly as widely spoken as it is in Moscow so if you want to get your dink wet, you need to be able to communicate a little in Russian.
If I had to describe this city in a word, the word would be "compact". With nearly a million people things are quite nicely centralized as far as nightlife goes. Easy to get around with taxis as well. Plenty of cheap taxis hanging around most of the night spots. So far, things have been quite easy.
The girls themselves are really interesting looking. I would group them in two categories. The classic White Russian garden variety blond (yawn) and what I will call Siberian girls. Unlike the white Russians these girls are dark haired and mostly have dark eyes but I have seen a few with green eyes but both have SLIGHTLY asian shaped eyes. Most are tall and slender with great bodies. VERY exotic.
Like I said, I was otherwise engaged for the past few days and was only in "observation mode" but my neck hurts from turning my head so much and my ear hurts from having Oksana grab it each time I turn my head to look at another one of these babes. It's possible that my opinion of Krasnoyarsk is skewed, but I don't think so. Compared with somewhere like Ufa or Tyumen, this place has waaaaaay more going on. Put it on the list.
Put it on the list.Great report, Jake, spasibo.
Could be a cool destination for the summer. Heard (from an internet contact who lives there) that there was a lot of nice natural beaches on the Yenesi river crawling in July / August with topless girls suntanning.
Furthermore, seems that Krasnoyarsk is surrounded by forested mountains with plenty of great lakes. Locals surely spend their summer weekends up there in their datchas to get drunk and fuck like rabbits. It is surely easy to get invited by girls for a debauched weekend in the nature.
Seems one can rent a studio or one bedroom apartment in the center for about 1000 €/month (but daily rates are more costly).
http://nasutki.com/sity/krs/spisok.php
(great site BTW for apartments rentals in provinces)
146250
Ok. Observation mode off : Action mode on.
Sunday was definitely lay low kinda day. After drinking and screwing all weekend I needed a night off after gf went home. Monday night, being Valentine's Day was supposed to be a slow night for me too but it dod not end up that way. I think I may have mentioned the Krasnoyarsk Komplex in my last report. They had a live band playing so sat at the bar and had dinner while all the lovers sat and looked into each other's eye. How cute. What surprised me was how many single girls were there that night. Clearly a lonely herts club sort of deal. But it WAS Monday night and I decided that trolling for party girls might not be the ticket just yet. With that I went upstairs to the third floor to lace called Amsterdam Club (
www.amsterdambar.ru
). The web site is worthless except for the map. The club is kinda lame as far as Russian strip clubs go. The girls themselves are right up to snuff but the format and the prices are out of line. R1, 000 to get in and the girls only show their tits on stage. If you want to get up close and personal you need to get a private dance. For R1, 000. I took tow girls into the private room and explored the boundaries of the private dance. FABULOUS bodies for sure. Pretty frisky in the private room. No penetration allowed but sucking tits is ok. But for R1k it got old pretty quick.
Went back down to the Bar Loft and the placed had picked up. Most of the couples had gone and there seems to be lot of girls all dancing together. Sat with two girls and shot tequila for a while. Probably could have taken one home but security is pretty sticky and didn't feel like going through the bullshit of registering the girl AND paying for a guest so decided to punt. It was 3:00 AM and after lots of tequila the desire was gone.
Tuesday. I was back to my old self and trolled Mamba and Rusdosug. The first thing that struck me was that the Rusdosug girls seems to want a LOT of money. Moscow type prices. Kind of a turn off. But a quick troll on Mamba DID turn up this little peach.
http://mamba.ru/un-123?afolder=album_photos
#photo_id=587893400. Oh. My. God. Got her number and chatted with her a little. She wanted R3, 500 an hour and she settled for R3, 000 so caught a cab to her place that eventing. Not an easy ride as it was out in the burbs. But no matter. Finally found the apartment after being chased by dogs (I shit you not). She opened the door and my heart stopped. She was absolutely gorgeous. Damn, it was worth R3, 000 an hour just to look at her. REALLY interesting body because for relatively small tits she has sizable nipples. Look closely at the photos. Anyhow. She couldn't perform to save her life. Clearly not into it.
So after an hour, I headed back to town to check the other big strip place in town called Zazhegalka
www.russtriptease.ru
which apparently is part of a chain. Same format as Amsterdam so kind of a waste of time. After Aurora 911 and Penthouse they are just not interesting.
It's 20:30 in Krasnoyarsk and I am heading back to Moscow tomorrow so one last night in K-yarsk. Going to check out a few more bars and see what's up. Friday Saturday were DEFINITELY the night to go out around here and it's pretty sleepy during the week.
Privetik Jake, thanks for your reports, I enjoyed them, not only cause you actually are almost the only one who report from other Russian cities, but also cause I like the way you write.
....Friday Saturday were DEFINITELY the night to go out around here and it's pretty sleepy during the week.That's the problem when one decides to go on his expenses out of Piter or Moscow, no really matter where, even a very good city as Krasnoyarsk, offers almost nothing for 5 days per week and considering viza, buy flight paying high price of accomodation with only 4 real days of hunting in 14 days of holiday it does not worth so that much. Yeah, mamba contacts, but we know they are a hit or miss.
Nice time in Moscow Jake, waiting to read your aurora / 911 report.
Stravinsky
02-16-11, 16:53
Jake,
Do you remember what's on the Crazy Menu at Amsterdam Bar? Do they offer a privat kabinet for sex-on-premises? Or is sucking titties during the privat tanyets as far as it goes?
jake,
do you remember what's on the crazy menu at amsterdam bar? do they offer a privat kabinet for sex-on-premises? or is sucking titties during the privat tanyets as far as it goes? i seem to recall that at amsterdam, the crazy menu was almost identical to zazhegalka, which i lifted from their web site for your convenience. and by the way, during both private dances i bought, sucking titties did not seem to be a problem so i assume it's included. i inquired about sex-on-premises in both places and was told "absolutely not" in no uncertain terms. they advised that if i wanted sex, the best option would be to arrange with hotel security (seriously) or to visit a sauna.
having said all that, check out the item about 15th from the bottom. release dancer from her duties for one hour (6, 000 r). hmmmmm. seems like that could be construed as sex-on-premises.
crazy menu.
description / duration / price.
dj-show (announce of dancers) 1 track 500 rub.
private dance 2 tracks 1000 rub.
private dance (1 girl and 2 guests) 2 tracks 2000 rub.
private dance (1 girl and 2 guests) 2 tracks 3000 rub.
private dance (2 guests and 1 girl) 2 tracks 2000 rub.
private dance with the waitress 1 track 3000 rub.
erotic dance of the guest with a dancer in vip-zone 1 track 500 rub.
massage made by a tender girl in vip-cabin
- neck 2 tracks 1000 rub.
- back 2 tracks 1000 rub.
- belly 2 tracks 1000 rub.
table dance 1 track 500 rub.
table dance from our table to yours 1 track 500 rub.
table dance (full strip) 1 track 1000 rub.
full strip on the stage 1 track 1000 rub.
dance of a guest with a girl on the stage 1 track 1000 rub.
dancing of a guest on the stage 1 track 1000 rub.
lesbian duet, trio (orgy of any number of dancers) 1 track 500 rub x number of dancers.
lesbian dance of 2 girls with a guest 1 track 1000 rub.
ice show (erotic fantasies on your table are so hot that can melt even ice) 1 track 2000 rub &1093; price of the ice (kg)
fruit "peep show" (erotic fantasies with bananas and other fruits) 1 track 1000 rub x number of dancers.
undress a dancer on the stage up to topless. 1 track 1000 rub.
a girl undresses a guest on the stage 1 track 1000 rub.
cognac from the dancer's navel 1000 rub + cognac price.
tequila sex (tequila with salt from the naked dancer's breast) 2000 rub + tequila price.
dessert on the bar (eating of fruits with cream from naked dancer) 1500 rub
spread dancer with a cream and the lick it off. 1 track 2000 rub.
topless girl at your table 1 track 500 rub.
dance of a girl out of turn 1 track 500 rub.
buy a dancer's suit part negotiated price.
slow dance with a dancer 1 track 500 rub.
slow dance with a waitress 1 track 1000 rub.
slow dance with the administrator 1 track 2000 rub.
order of music 1 track 500 rub.
release a dancer from her duties (in accordance with her wish) 1 hour 6000 rub.
vip cabin rent 2 tracks 1000 rub.
romantic time with a dancer 30 minutes 3000 rub.
invite a waitress to seat at the table 30 minutes 3000 rub.
take a shower with a dancer 2 tracks 3000 rub.
"water ballet" (fantastic show of three dancers in shower cabin) 1 track 3000 rub.
harem from tree dancers 30 minutes 6000 rub.
srip show on the bar 1 track 1500 rub &1093; number of dancers.
your whim "new year party" 30 minutes 7500 rub.
order of a fancy-dress performance 1500 rub.
make a water pipe draw with the naked dancer 3000 rub.
"playful hands" attraction (unique chance to wash a girl out of shower cabin) 1 track 1000 rub.
"remember your childhood" attraction (nostalgic riding on a swing) 1 track 500 rub.
barman strip show (very erotic) 1 track 3000 rub.
deposit table (water pipe, table dance. 2 dancers) 1 track 3000 rub.
no parking (if you want our girls not to disturb you during one hour) 1 hour 3000 rub
Stravinsky
02-17-11, 06:08
Having said all that, check out the item about 15th from the bottom. Release Dancer from her duties for one hour (6, 000 R). Hmmmmm. Seems like that could be construed as sex-on-premises.Jake,
молодец! Thanks for providing the Crazy Menu.
такой хитрый парен! (such a clever guy)
Release a dancer from her duties (in accordance with her wish) 1 hour 6000 руб. That's usually referred to as an увольнение (excused or dismissed) and it doesn't mean sex-on-premises. For 6,000 руб. the club will allow a girl to leave the club with you for 1 hour. But you need to have some place to take her, usually your hotel or apartment. That's actually a very good price. In Moscow it can be 10,000 or 15,000, and that's just what you pay to the club.
Romantic time with a dancer 30 minutes 3000 руб. I wonder what that is... is that at the table or in the Veep kabinet?
I have to say, the prices in Krasnoyarsk are not bad, at least when compared to Москва.
Tuesday. I was back to my old self and trolled Mamba and Rusdosug.
But a quick troll on Mamba DID turn up this little peach.
http://mamba.ru/un-123?afolder=album_photos
She was absolutely gorgeous. Damn, it was worth R3, 000 an hour just to look at her. REALLY interesting body because for relatively small tits she has sizable nipples. Look closely at the photos. Jake,
Thanks for the great reports from the Wild East.
Incidentally, did you consider calling on her Padrooga Dazha?
Equally gorgeous going by these photos.
http://mamba.ru/un-123/?afolder=album_photos&album_id=590178940&
Could have been a superior trio, perhaps?
Maybe even worth evading wild dogs for.:)
VG.
Jake,
Thanks for the great reports from the Wild East.
Incidentally, did you consider calling on her Padrooga Dazha?
Equally gorgeous going by these photos.
http://mamba.ru/un-123/?afolder=album_photos&album_id=590178940&
Could have been a superior trio, perhaps?
Maybe even worth evading wild dogs for.
VG. No kidding. Unfortunately Dasha was visiting Moscow.
Jake,
Thanks for the report on Krasnoyarsk. Brought back some fond memories.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, one of the must-monger destinations of provincial Russia.
I got to know a beautiful brunette from Club Shpilka named Diana, spoke fluent English and would look after me well when I visted the city / club. Picked up a blonde from a tochka in the middle of nowhere (stumbled out of Mama Roma one night and into a taxi, asked for Girls! And he delivered) who couldn't get off without something in her ass and I didn't even have to pay extra.
Stayed at the Metilitsa, girl friendly, fairly central. They used to give me the room with the near naked girl painting above my bed, must have known what was going on in there.
Haven't been back for a while, might have to get back there next summer.
Cheers,
Bez Bezarra
02-26-11, 15:27
Guys,
This place is a GOLD MINE.
The place is crawling with beautiful girls.
These girls are HOT.
Very well dressed with money to buy their own drinks.
I estimate the Female : Male ratio to be about 3:1. No joke.
I don't know where the guys are in this city.
Local guys just laugh saying that most girls in Krasnoyarsk are pretty available.
Things have been quite easy.
The girls are really interesting looking.
Most are tall and slender with great bodies.
VERY exotic.
Put it on the list.
(slightly edited for content) Go ahead everybody and slam me, I know you all will. Mercilessly and endlessly.
But while everyone's slapping you on the back, somebody still needs to point out the obviously glaring similarity.
Just like Frenchie wrote about his Uzbek paradise, you create a nearly unbelievable image of words, and back it up with nothing except websites.
I guess that's all that most members need to be spoon fed and blindly accept it without question.
But some of us can actually see, you know.
Don't take it personally, ok?
We're all well aware of your personal preference against, or problem with, cameras and females.
There's no requirement to be a photographer.
Let's be very fair about this, everybody's entitled to their post in their own style.
But seeing is believing.
And I'm not talking about photos of building architecture or stairways, like Frenchie's.
This is what I'm talking about:
Go ahead everybody and slam me, I know you all will. Mercilessly and endlessly.
But while everyone's slapping you on the back, somebody still needs to point out the obviously glaring similarity.
Just like Frenchie wrote about his Uzbek paradise, you create a nearly unbelievable image of words, and back it up with nothing except websites.
I guess that's all that most members need to be spoon fed and blindly accept it without question.
But some of us can actually see, you know.
Don't take it personally, ok?
We're all well aware of your personal preference against, or problem with, cameras and females.
There's no requirement to be a photographer.
Let's be very fair about this, everybody's entitled to their post in their own style.
But seeing is believing.
And I'm not talking about photos of building architecture or stairways, like Frenchie's.
This is what I'm talking about:Bez,
You got me. What can I say? You caught me red handed. I am perpetrating a ruse for the Krasnoyarsk Chamber of Commerce. There are actually NO girls in Krasnoyarsk. None what-so-ever. I am part of a dirty plot to lure unsuspecting foreign men to Krasnoyarsk where there are no women at all. It's all bullshit. You can't believe a word I say because I did not capture one single photo of a naked girl. Hell, I wasn't even there. In fact I wasn't even in Russia. I was holed up in a basement apartment in Hoboken. Slam you Bez? Why would I (or anyone else on this board) want to slam you for calling me a liar? It's all just harmless banter. Right Bez?
Hugs & Kisses,
Jake.
PS. While I do not have any naked photos, I do have a bit of Boots and Furs fetish so here's a little something to get everyone's imagination going.
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Bez Bezarra
03-26-11, 14:12
Bez,
I was holed up in Hoboken.
I do have a little something to get everyone's imagination going. Fur and boots?
Well, fur burgers, or puss and boots, would've been a little more interesting, but to each his own.
I'm disappointed with the membership, that nobody gave you a little credit for your illustrative effort.
I guess you must be right, that nobody even cares about seeing even one single example of a pretty girl's smile from the far off hinterlands, where few, if ANY, will EVER have the balls to venture into. I guess you're right, that we'll never have anything better than our imaginations to admire their beauty, that you boasted are so lovely, except for what they look like walking away in their coats on a snowy day. Oh well.
Its not that I don't believe you, you know. Its just curiosity, I just want to see myself. And I know that you know that. Complaining that you're too sarcastic, would be like saying that I'm not a nasty little troublemaker.
Its been snowing like a god damn motherfucker this week at 52 degrees latitutde. Well, that's what my models tell me. Very heavy snow sitting in the trees, looks like a fairy tale. So much for Russian spring, eh?
Don't know what hole you're in at the moment, but its 83 and sunny on my balcony this morning, not a drop of breeze blowing through the palm trees yet, the ocean is super calm and sparkling with the sunrise, looks like a great day to go snorkeling and spear a snapper for lunch. Hope you're well, wherever you are.
Will happily leave this all behind in the not too distant future, for a new candyland adventure of my own. Just need to let the temps get above freezing. Girlfriends and models eagerly waiting my return. See ya out there, druk.
Escho posmotrim chia zhopa shire! .
Stravinsky
03-26-11, 17:08
Bez,
Shame on you, you're slipping. Where's the fotki? Gosh 'n golly, dude, if you're going to make us read through your rant about spearing snapper, the least you can do is leave us with a photo.
I think what Jake is trying to point out in his photos is that: a Russian woman, walking away, in a fur coat, looks 10x better than anything you will see here in the States, in a bikini, when the ocean is sparkling with the sunrise.
Russian lesson for the day. . .
чья это попа? это ни попа Беза! (Whose popa is this? It's not Bez's popa!)
Bez Bezarra
03-26-11, 18:27
Bez,
Where's the fotki?
Golly, dude, if you're going to make us read through your rant about spearing snapper, the least you can do is leave us with a photo.
I think a Russian woman, walking away, in a fur coat, looks 10x better than anything you will see here in the States, in a bikini.This ain't the gallery, pallery.
Golly schmolly! Just letting ya know that summer's already here down south, while the northeast & midwest, and the motherland suffer and trudge onward through the slush. You got something against fresh seafood?
And obviously, you haven't been walking down the beach here this weekend, to see all the camel toes and spring break snappers soaking up the rays. Anyone that thinks a fur coat walking away looks better than SoFla beach thongs during March Madness, has been away far too long from this neighborhood, I can promise you that much.
LeBron & D Wade are kickin' ass, even the Gators made it to the round of 8, this town is jammin! But CandyLand is always calling me back.
Here's what you want:
Fur and boots?
Its been snowing like a god damn motherfucker this week at 52 degrees latitutde. Well, that's what my models tell me. Very heavy snow sitting in the trees, looks like a fairy tale. So much for Russian spring, eh? Ah Bez, it's not that bad. Sitting around 25F today in NN. Not too cold for a stroll down ulitsa Bolshaya Pokrovskaya and Jake would be in heaven with all of the boots and furs on offer. Not to mention what's inside them.
The cold is easy to handle when you have this to keep the fire going. Enjoy your snapper, I'll enjoy mine!
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Cheers
fur and boots?
well, fur burgers, or puss and boots, would've been a little more interesting, but to each his own.
don't know what hole you're in at the moment, but its 83 and sunny on my balcony this morning, not a drop of breeze blowing through the palm trees yet, the ocean is super calm and sparkling with the sunrise, looks like a great day to go snorkeling and spear a snapper for lunch. hope you're well, wherever you are.
will happily leave this all behind in the not too distant future, for a new candyland adventure of my own. just need to let the temps get above freezing. girlfriends and models eagerly waiting my return. see ya out there, druk. bez,
since you put it that way i will concede the point and give you a little peek (being the tease that i am).
as for the hole that i am in at the moment, as i type this i am in houston (iah) airport headed back to candy land via frankfurt. will touchdown in moscow thursday night. a guy can only take so much arizona sunshine before the lure of the east overpowers.
happy trails.
jake
Bez Bezarra
03-29-11, 00:41
I searched my files, and I don't think I have any of those.
I usually just tell the dyev that she can keep her hat on.
So relocating here soon. I've had some good experiences in St Piter (see my reports) but don't know what to expect. I'm going to be living here for the summer it looks like. Can anyone give me some idea what to expect in this region or where to look for some clues? I will continue searching archives in the meantime.
Wishing you all a happy spring.
.
Wishing you all a happy spring. Thanks but I am sure between us, you will be the one who will have the best spring if you will spend it in Russia :D
Thanks but I am sure between us, you will be the one who will have the best spring if you will spend it in Russia :DBut in Krasnodar? I will arrive next week. I am fond of St Peter but I'm not sue I'll have a fun summer in Krasnodar as it looks boring.
Bez Bezarra
04-17-11, 06:56
I arrive in Krasno next week for the summer, but I'm not sure I'll have fun as it looks boring, compared to Pitr.Zigmmoid colon!
Clearly your city in the south is only one sixth the size of Pitr, but in Pitr, you're not there to meet ALL 4 million citizens, right? And though Pitr's palaces and museums can't be beat elsewhere in FSU for cultural stimulation, your fans here on ISG are inclined to presume that your focus will be directed towards somewhat lower brow pursuits of, shall we say, clitoral stimulation, eh?
But if you're already arriving, what's your rush for summer? Bypass spring time in the south? Man, have you lost all your sense of smell? Must I remind you that you only need to stick your nose up, suck in breath like a rutting stag, to get a potent whiff of teen spirit in the morning air? The flowers are BLOOMING, and I DON'T mean dandelions! Museums aside comrade, rest assured that the rest of male population will be paying attention to the cultural phenomenon of mating season.
So remember, they didn't name the city,"Beautiful Gift" for nothing. And then a hot summer along the Kuban? Son, if you're worried you'll be bored there, or you're not up to your ears in gushy stuff before you know it, well, you probably ought to check yourself, because you may just be GAY! .
As for Bez, it appears I really must have done something right last year, as I had 3 blondinkas anxious and ready to see me again, so I flipped a coin, and chose Tiny Lera to reunite with first. As requested there she was, waiting in taxi at my podyest at 1:00 AM, as I pulled up straight from the airport. Talk about a warm welcome for my return arrival back in the USSR, she didn't even let me unpack my suitcase. .
God bless the glorious motherland! All I had to do was light her fuse, and she went off like a roman candle. Which came in handy, as I had spent my time between flights pondering what I would do to her in the jacuzzi when I got here, and so many cuties wandering Frankfurt-Main to only further inspire me with ideas. I'm here less than 24 hours, and I already need a rest.
And since today was Lera's birthday, she was given an appropriate spanking when we woke up this morning. . Later I simply sent her on her little way after she made me breakfast, ran all my errands, even found an inconspicuous filet mignon for just $8lb amongst the other cuts at the meat counter in the supermarket, which tasted better than what I get home for twice the price. The pears and pickles at the outdoor bazaar are simply bursting with juice, as are the dyevushkas! Tonight I arrive all over again, to reunite with Julia. Tomorrow, Snezhanna. Then begins the new models, ripe and ready for harvest. I only regret I couldn't possibly be here long enough to meet them all. .
I usually don't have it this easy at the beginning of a new adventure, maybe I'm finally getting the hang of it.
Passepartout
04-17-11, 19:25
With the sun coming back to russia, I decided that ity was time to quit Moscow that I know too much now to see if there is some fun in regions.
My Russian is enough for that.
So, I woudl appreciate if you could list the few cities you know where I have a high chance to end in a club where the ratio male / female is extremely favorable and where the chances to have fun are the highest.
Thanks guys
Stravinsky
04-18-11, 03:53
I usually don't have it this easy at the beginning of a new adventure, maybe I'm finally getting the hang of it.Bez,
молодец!
Looking forward to reading all about your escapades in Dniepopetrovsk. You did say you were in Dniepopetrovsk, didn't you?
Or was it Nizhni Novgorod?
Bez Bezarra
04-18-11, 19:46
Bez,
&1084; &1086; &1083; &1086; &1076; &1077; &1094; !
Looking forward to reading all about your escapades in Upper Silesia.
You did say you were in Semipalatins'k, didn't you?
Or was it Veliky Novgorod? Well Veliky Schmeliky, I might as well be in Novaya Zemlaya with the radioactive polar bears.
You know, a city is a city, and a titty is a titty.
Which brings to mind my favorite little ditty, Tough titty said the kitty, cause the milk tastes shitty.
Cultural busllshit aside, have you read up on Russian Torture, by Tera Titsoff and Hu Bitchakokoff?
All right, enough of this drek. If you're keeping score, its been 3 days, and I'm losing count already. I think I've hooked up with 5 dyevs, but I'm counting 6, so it must be because I had Lera stay over for a double header. Does that count? Well, in her case, it does.
Certainly the highlight was this afternoon's newbie, Katya, I think was her name. I'm sorry to say, that she, and Lena before her this morning, were both absolutely against allowing any photos. They both immediately asked,"Za chem?", and I suspect, with EVERYBODY sending compromising pictures about from cell phone cameras, now that literally everyone having one, the first thing that pops into these girls heads when I ask if I can take their photo, is that I'm going to send it to everyone. They wouldn't even let me take a photo fully clothed.
So you'll have to trust me, that this dyev Katya was smoking hot, you could bounce a quarter off her tush, and it would never hit the floor.
Last night, I was trying some numbers from 2010, and after I texted about 3 dyevs, asking if they remembered meeting me last Oktyabr, Lena texted me back, with this: the, ya pom you, I maike mieky moouse you. Which translates to, I was wearing a micky mouse t-shirt. Anyway, she also said she was in the hospital, a rite of passage here for dyevs, so I tried the standard, oo vas yest padruga? Well, the, yest! So she sent me her padruga today, also named Lena, who was very nice, though certainly not spectacular, but see here's how that works. I treated her like gold, banged her brains out until she was screaming, nearly got her to go for butt love, but in the end, she also has a padruga who is a Jessica Alba look-alike, that I'll be meeting and eating for lunch on Wednesday.
Stravinsky
04-19-11, 15:20
So you'll have to trust me, that this dyev Katya was smoking hot, you could bounce a quarter off her tush, and it would never hit the floor.I don't know Bez, sounds a little far-fetched to me. You know what they say about guys who won't post photos. . .
Now I remember, you're in Rostov na Donu, right? Or was it Voronezh?
Now I remember, you're in Rostov na Donu, right? Or was it Voronezh?LOL. Maybe in New Jersey? (smilie)
Stravinsky
04-20-11, 05:54
I have no doubt Bez is in Russia (or maybe the Ukraine) , I'm just trying to figure out where. I want to go there too!
Bez Bezarra
04-20-11, 14:37
I have no doubt Bez is in Ukraine too!Frog Legs Pro-salivate was right on the money!
I'm really in Novy Jerzhy, behind the Howard Stern Rest Stop on the turnpike, banging Johnny Sac's wife in the basement while she's eating a turkey leg.
Just for that crack, I'm moving this over to the Ukraine board.
Paka.
Hey Frenchie, did you know that the Bez is also the big bad Zubachistka Barabashka? Yeah baby!
Bez Bezarra
04-30-11, 11:34
Fireworks set to go off tomorrow on May Day.
Stay tuned, sports fans.
Hi Bez,
Responded to your PM but it says you're not accepting PM's.
Nothing too important, the medical institute is a great hunting ground and the khachapuri is sensational.
Cheers,
I wanted to get a discussion going about nude photography. I know this might be a topic involving a "trade secret", but I was wondering if anyone here has ever recruited models for artistic nude photography. I'd like to get a better idea of how much a set should cost on the market, or whether big studios actually hire photographers outright.
Thanks
Hi guys,
I will be travelling to Nizhny Novgorod for business, next week. I could not find any information about action (girls, clubs, escorts). Any info will be appreciated.
Thanks.
Matt
Hi guys,
I will be travelling to Nizhny Novgorod for business, next week. I could not find any information about action (girls, clubs, escorts). Any info will be appreciated.
Thanks.
MattHi Matt,
Pity you didn't see this post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?772-Other-Areas&p=1051596&highlight=NizhnyNovgorod#post1051596
How was NN? Any action? Going back?
Cheers
Bigcatch 28
08-12-11, 08:28
Hello Fellow Mongerers,
Any information for Novosibirsk out there?
Hello, Fellow Mongerers,
Any information for Novosibirsk out there?Typical big city, plenty of bars, dance clubs, strip clubs and gentlemen's clubs etc.
Two universities in the city, lots of studentka.
There's Lenin Square in the centre, you'll see plenty of them hanging out there if you go in the next couple of months. Could be on holidays though they'll still be around.
Hotel Sibir is GF (or was) and there's a few bars in the hotel you may be able to pick something up in. Don't know if they do a hotel call (be surprised if they didn't have house girls).
Mamba database worked well for me, just did a quick check. 125 girls 18-25 looking for sex, take out the scammers and there's about a dozen on there I'd write to and organise something beforehand. Depends if you have time to set something up.
Anyway, you shouldn't have too much trouble finding something there.
Cheers,
Bigcatch 28
08-17-11, 16:21
Thank You for the info Dogger.
Will report once I've been there.
Has anyone been to Yaroslavl recently? Heard good things about it from a friend who was there visiting relatives. The only downside might be a close proximity to Moscow.
Typical big city, plenty of bars, dance clubs, strip clubs and gentlemen's clubs etc.
Two universities in the city, lots of studentka.
There's Lenin Square in the centre, you'll see plenty of them hanging out there if you go in the next couple of months. Could be on holidays though they'll still be around.
Hotel Sibir is GF (or was) and there's a few bars in the hotel you may be able to pick something up in. Don't know if they do a hotel call (be surprised if they didn't have house girls).
Mamba database worked well for me, just did a quick check. 125 girls 18-25 looking for sex, take out the scammers and there's about a dozen on there I'd write to and organise something beforehand. Depends if you have time to set something up.
Anyway, you shouldn't have too much trouble finding something there.
Cheers, Dogger862.
I am planning a trip to Novosibirsk in Feb. So far I have found a driver and an apartment. Not finding much in the way of monger reports on any website.
Being the 5th largest city in RU combined with 2 universities makes the think there must be more than a few Devs in need of funds. I am all in favor of an education and want to help those poor girls along with myself to some prime RU estrogen.
Are there salons or 'Tochkas' to be had? Pricing comparisons with Moscow or Piter?
Anything else you could share would be greatly appreciated.
TIA.
Guido88
Stravinsky
09-13-11, 05:14
I am planning a trip to Novosibirsk in Feb. So far I have found a driver and an apartment. Not finding much in the way of monger reports on any website.Sextalk. Ru has an active thread for Novosibirsk.
http://www.sextalk.ru/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=clsr_nsk
Polina gets top marks!
http://www.sextalk.ru/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=1141776&an=0&page=0#1141776
Sextalk. Ru has an active thread for Novosibirsk.
http://www.sextalk.ru/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=clsr_nsk
Polina gets top marks!
http://www.sextalk.ru/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=1141776&an=0&page=0#1141776Thanks Strav.
That is what I was looking for.
Guido88
Has anyone been to Yaroslavl recently? Heard good things about it from a friend who was there visiting relatives. The only downside might be a close proximity to Moscow.So going to be there next weekend, will report.
Seems like a nice city, or at least, as nice as a Russian city can be. The largest city (1. 2 million people) in Southern Russia.
The proximity of Caucasus also surely ensures a high ratio of Georgian, Chechen, Dagestan, ect brunette beauties.
Anyone been there already?
Noticed that Ibis opened recently new branches in Russian provinces, which ensures humanly priced decent accommodation:
http://www.ibishotel.com/gb/booking/hotels-list.shtml
Kazan 44€/day, Omsk 63€/day, N-N 69€/day. No more excuses for NOT going beyond the Golden Ring. (smilie)
Member #4243
09-25-11, 17:33
After some great successful german fkk trips, I'm looking for something more adventurous. Vladivostok seem like an incredible destination, but the problem is after reading all of the reports and scouring the net I can only find limited info. Even after pm'ing some members.
I have got no response. I do know that vladivostock hotel has some interesting options but again very sketchy reports. Is there any member here that can give me a full up to date idea of all mongering options available in vlad? Girl types, prices, venues, etc?
Many thanks.
Passepartout
09-26-11, 21:38
Mohab,
I have never been to Vlad, so my help will be very limited.
What can I say to you is that Vlad is awfully expensive in general so expect prices quite high. And clearly, on the net very few options available.
A friend of mine, not a monger, but looking for free girlfriend market, is going there once a month, and he told me that the city is not that funny apparently.
Sorry not to be able to help more, but if you have the choice I think that other options in Russian are better (Ekaterinbourg, Novossibirsk, samara, Rostov.)
Nevertheless, if you read russian, then this is the only source of information i was able to find:
http://dosug25.ru/list_girls.php
if you test please report !
good luck
DoctorOral
09-28-11, 23:10
Hey guys.
Any advice to this end of the world would be highly appreciated!
Massage salons? Good strip joints? Girls apartments?
Hey guys.
Any advice to this end of the world would be highly appreciated!
Massage salons? Good strip joints? Girls apartments?Cheers for report Wally (albeit in another forum))
Its good my pm was useful. From someone whos been there, it is pretty good.
Also check out taxi drivers, they will all take you to a lineup.
I'll be flying accross soon myself. Cheers Nickc
Dogger862.
I am planning a trip to Novosibirsk in Feb. So far I have found a driver and an apartment. Not finding much in the way of monger reports on any website.
Being the 5th largest city in RU combined with 2 universities makes the think there must be more than a few Devs in need of funds. I am all in favor of an education and want to help those poor girls along with myself to some prime RU estrogen.
Are there salons or 'Tochkas' to be had? Pricing comparisons with Moscow or Piter?
Anything else you could share would be greatly appreciated.
TIA.
Guido88Hi Guido,
I see Strav has already helped you out, I'll just add that while I didn't look for a tochka or go to a salon, I would be surprised if there were not any available. I went with a sponsorette and we had some contacts pre-arranged through Mamba. But what I saw in the clubs and on the street was promising. Your driver should be able to help you out.
Pricing should be cheaper than Moscow or St. Pete, as it usually is in the provinces. As a general guide, and again I'm a bit out of touch as my stable of sponsorettes keeps me busy and satisfied enough, you'll probably be looking at 2500 R an hour (?) , although others may want to chime in.
Cheers
After some great successful german fkk trips, I'm looking for something more adventurous. Vladivostok seem like an incredible destination, but the problem is after reading all of the reports and scouring the net I can only find limited info. Even after pm'ing some members.
I have got no response. I do know that vladivostock hotel has some interesting options but again very sketchy reports. Is there any member here that can give me a full up to date idea of all mongering options available in vlad? Girl types, prices, venues, etc?
Many thanks.Hi Mohab,
I wouldn't necessarily recommend Vlad as my number one provincial destination in Russia. If you want to go to the Far East, try Khabarovsk, in my opinion far better than Vlad. You could always fly into Vlad, check it out and then overnight train to Khabarovsk.
Other options that I think are better than Vlad in addition to those already mentioned are Irkutsk and Krasnoyarsk. Depends on how far you want to go and what else you want to do there.
Whatever city you choose, it's hard to go wrong in the provinces.
Cheers,
Spanish Main
10-05-11, 14:22
Hi Guido,
Pricing should be cheaper than Moscow or St. Pete, as it usually is in the provinces. As a general guide, and again I'm a bit out of touch as my stable of sponsorettes keeps me busy and satisfied enough, you'll probably be looking at 2500 R an hour (?) , although others may want to chime in.
CheersGiven salaries outside of Moscow I am amazed that the prices are so high. On the Costa del Sol in Spain there are many young girls for 50 euro an hour which is 10 euro cheaper that the Russian provinces price. You can see the reports on that thread.
Surely some lovely privates are available much cheaper than 2500R.
In Moscow a couple of years ago I had a daily mutual massage and HJ for 500 R with a variety of good looking young girls. It was a proper parlour advertised in the paper. Is that impossible now?
Given salaries outside of Moscow I am amazed that the prices are so high. On the Costa del Sol in Spain there are many young girls for 50 euro an hour which is 10 euro cheaper that the Russian provinces price. You can see the reports on that thread.
Surely some lovely privates are available much cheaper than 2500R.
In Moscow a couple of years ago I had a daily mutual massage and HJ for 500 R with a variety of good looking young girls. It was a proper parlour advertised in the paper. Is that impossible now?Hi Spanish Main,
Certainly there could be experiences to be had for less than 2500 / hr, but that would depend on a few variables, such as language ability, perserverence, will & time. I was just trying to give a general indication.
500 RUR for mutual massage and HJ at an advertised parlour in Moscow. Not that I know of, but I don't monger much in Moscow itself.
Cheers,
If you want to go to the Far East, try Khabarovsk, in my opinion far better than Vlad. You could always fly into Vlad, check it out and then overnight train to Khabarovsk.Curious, but why do you recommend Khabarovsk over Vlad? Nothing much to see / do in Khabarovsk. It's just the suburbs. Also, Vlad is probably easier to navigate for the non-Russian speaking people.
Yaroslavl, or Yarik as they sometimes call it. I didn't care for the city much. Stayed at Utah hotel, clean, basic hotel for about $100 a night. We just spent 2 nights there. Went to Korol' club the first night, it's a huge place, nicely decorated, about half empty, and it turned out mainly visited by people on drugs. Went to Med club the next day and selection and quality / ratio was much better. Picked up a freebie. Other than that not much to report. Doesn't seem like much to do there, only a handful of clubs and food was so so. You might have better time if you have a local to show you around and or if you have more time on hands. I would say fly further east to a bigger city if you venture out of Moscow / Spb.
Member #4274
11-01-11, 11:05
I just saw your post Prosal. There is not much night life during the week in Samara, but during the summer the embankment is good at least until 1:00am or so. That one club, Metelitsa, has 3 floors but during the week at least the first floor is always okay (at least 20-30 girls will be there). This info is from July.
If you are at all concerned with cost I would strongly, strongly urge you to go to Ukraine instead. There are still untapped smaller cities in Ukraine where foreigners have just as much of a bonus as in provincial Russia. In fact I would say more so, since you don't see as much anti-Americanism (if you're American).
For example, the town of Romny in Sumy oblast (pop. 50, 000) where I spent a few nights has only one club, but it's open 7 nights a week and is dirt cheap. I showed up every night and one night hosted a whole table of girls celebrating a birth day, the total bill was something like $70 (for champagne, chocolate, food, cocktails, etc. Etc.). A hotel room there was $12 a night for a luks room (standard room was $7 / night. And this was in 2009.
By comparison, in a small town of 50, 000 people in Russia where I spent two nights in 2010 I had a hotel room for $30 a night and it was absolutely terrible. I mean unbelievably bad. There was only one toilet in the entire hotel and it was in one of the rooms, so you had to knock and ask permission of that guest to use the toilet.
Or compare train prices. A kupe ticket from Moscow to Samara is about 4, 000 rubles ($120) for a 14 hour ride, while kupe from Kiev to Lviv is $20 (for a 10 hour ride). Beer in Samara is about 100 rubles at clubs ($3. 50) but only 6 hrivnya in provincial Ukrainian clubs ($0. 80). Hotels are correspondingly cheaper. Another example, the tram or bus in Samara is 15 rubles a ride ($0. 50) but in Kiev the metro is only $0. 25 (and in the provinces the buses are a lot less than that).
I spent a night out in a small Ukrainian town recently trying to find a good club (on a Friday). I took 4 taxis around the town, had 5-6 beers, a pack of cigarettes, and payed entrance at one of the clubs, and all of that was under $15 (which is what entrace costs at some clubs in Samara).
And Ukraine has some other perks that are just a hassle in Russia, for example there is no registration in Ukraine (which can be a pain if you are renting a private flat in Russia). Also in Russia, to buy a local SIM card you need local registration, so you might have to wait a few days after arriving to be able to call girls at all. In Ukraine it's just $5 cash for a SIM card no questions asked. And of course for EU citizens and Americans you don't even need a visa, which is a huge plus.
I think the main thing is to avoid the places in Ukraine that are just overloaded with mongers (Kiev and Odessa in particular). Western Ukraine also seems to not be as good in terms of girls, I think mainly because their attitude is more standoffish and they dress more modestly as well. But there are lots of Eastern Ukrainian cities where most people are Russian-speaking and their incomes are 1/3 of what people are making in Russia. I was just in Ukraine and met a group of girls working at the local shopping mall in a smaller city, and they all made less than $120 a month for 6 days a week working. In provincial Russia they would be making at least $400 a month.
But you could pick some unvisited cities. Have you heard of Priluky? What about Kramatorsk? Shostka?
If I had two months and could go anywhere in the FSU, I'd pick a small Ukrainian city like that where you could live like a king on $1000 / month, and for another $1000 a month you could probably sponsor 3-4 girls.Very interesting and insightful report, Latexian. I am considering a trip to a small Ukrainian city in the spring. What are your thoughts on Ternopil? Is there another city you might recommend?
Very interesting and insightful report, Latexian. I am considering a trip to a small Ukrainian city in the spring. What are your thoughts on Ternopil? Is there another city you might recommend?I'm not as well-traveled in Ukraine as in Russia. But I have also wanted to visit Ternopil. Western Ukraine seems harder to me though than Eastern Ukraine for freebies, but I think that's at least partially because I speak Russian and not Ukrainian. Ternopil seems to have a decent-looking center, a good-sized medium population (220, 000) and the Oblast was the very poorest in all of Ukraine as of last year. See the statistics here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ukrainian_oblasts_and_territories_by_salary
I think it would be a great target if you're looking for freebies, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't find any pros. Taxi drivers are your best bet there, but you might strike out. Looks like an apartment can be had for $20 / day:
http://doba.ua/cities/Ternopol/1063093840/flatinfo.html
It looks like great budget destination. If you have okay looks, some Russian / Ukrainian language skills, and time I think it'd be great for freebies. And you could target freebies on a budget of less than $50 / day including food and accomodation. You could probably entice a girl to be "sponsored" for $100-$200. It seems that there are eight clubs, although some might be more like restaurants with a dance floor:
http://nightlife.tochka.net/clubs/ternopol/
(Here is the webpage for one club I found just searching online, looks like beer is $1 and entrance under $5: http://www.riverpool.com.ua/?menu=home)
And it has the advantage that if things really suck you can always just bail and go to Lviv which is just a few hours by bus.
I would only go to such a place if you have at least 1-2 weeks (a month preferred) and you have a few girls lined up online before you go. Also it does have 3-4 universities (VUZ's) so your'e better going while school is in session. The reason is these are like lowest-class universities almost, so girls from even smaller/poorer towns go here (as well as local girls) whereas the girls who are from the local elites are probably going to Lviv/Kiev/Kharkiv to study. That means that at the beginning of summer many girls from small villages will leave the town for summer and only a few will arrive to take their spots, but from the big cities (much harder to lay).
Member #4274
11-02-11, 08:24
I'm not as well-traveled in Ukraine as in Russia. But I have also wanted to visit Ternopil. Western Ukraine seems harder to me though than Eastern Ukraine for freebies, but I think that's at least partially because I speak Russian and not Ukrainian. Ternopil seems to have a decent-looking center, a good-sized medium population (220, 000) and the Oblast was the very poorest in all of Ukraine as of last year. See the statistics here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ukrainian_oblasts_and_territories_by_salary
I think it would be a great target if you're looking for freebies, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't find any pros. Taxi drivers are your best bet there, but you might strike out. Looks like an apartment can be had for $20 / day:
http://doba.ua/cities/Ternopol/1063093840/flatinfo.html
It looks like great budget destination. If you have okay looks, some Russian / Ukrainian language skills, and time I think it'd be great for freebies. And you could target freebies on a budget of less than $50 / day including food and accomodation. You could probably entice a girl to be "sponsored" for $100-$200. It seems that there are eight clubs, although some might be more like restaurants with a dance floor:
http://nightlife.tochka.net/clubs/ternopol/
(Here is the webpage for one club I found just searching online, looks like beer is $1 and entrance under $5: http://www.riverpool.com.ua/?menu=home)
And it has the advantage that if things really suck you can always just bail and go to Lviv which is just a few hours by bus.
I would only go to such a place if you have at least 1-2 weeks (a month preferred) and you have a few girls lined up online before you go. Also it does have 3-4 universities (VUZ's) so your'e better going while school is in session. The reason is these are like lowest-class universities almost, so girls from even smaller / poorer towns go here (as well as local girls) whereas the girls who are from the local elites are probably going to Lviv / Kiev / Kharkiv to study. That means that at the beginning of summer many girls from small villages will leave the town for summer and only a few will arrive to take their spots, but from the big cities (much harder to lay).Once again, Letaxian, your information and opinion either is clear and useful or it completely compliments the info I have obtained. Thanks for your opinion. I agree with most of what you said. Especially the part about it having universities and that being a big bonus and how cheap it will be to stay there. I know an old Ukrainian woman here in Canada who is from Ternopil and she is always telling me to visit her native city on my next trip to the FSU. Ternopil looks nice and I already know one little hottie who lives there and she is dying for me to visit her. My plan is to head over on April 10th for a minumun of one month and seeing how cheap it is there I could stay longer, easily.
I hope you don't mind me picking your brain once more: any other smaller cities in Ukraine you might recommend? I have been flirting with the idea of visiting Nizhny-Novgorod, Russia. What are your thoughts on that city? Keep in mind I do not speak Russian. Again, thank you for your time and expertise.
I'm not as well-traveled in Ukraine as in Russia. But I have also wanted to visit Ternopil. Western Ukraine seems harder to me though than Eastern Ukraine for freebies, but I think that's at least partially because I speak Russian and not Ukrainian. Ternopil seems to have a decent-looking center, a good-sized medium population (220, 000) and the Oblast was the very poorest in all of Ukraine as of last year. See the statistics here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ukrainian_oblasts_and_territories_by_salaryZhitomir is also pretty low on the list. Could be a good destination, population about 330, 000. It seems to be a good source, judging by the number of Zhytomir girls on dating sites.
I hope you don't mind me picking your brain once more: any other smaller cities in Ukraine you might recommend? I have been flirting with the idea of visiting Nizhny-Novgorod, Russia. What are your thoughts on that city? Keep in mind I do not speak Russian. Again, thank you for your time and expertise.
This post will be all about logistics so skip it if you want to read about pros.
I prefer the Russian-speaking cities since I think the women are a little easier and less prudish than in Western Ukraine (but this could just be my luck of the draw) and I speak Russian. So cities like Lugansk, Sumy, Kharkiv. Eastern Ukraine is more industrial and feels more "Soviet" if you know what I mean. Although there are nice cities in there too. I would probably pick Poltava or Chernigov if you wanted a smaller town (these are more Central than Eastern). The disadvantage of course is these cities are much uglier and more expensive than Western Ukraine, which is actually pretty beautiful in terms of nature and the cities have nice centers.
I guess if I had a month to do reading/writing and wanted to focus on just a couple women (1-3) I think a Western Ukrainian city would be perfect and you could do it for very cheaply and with minimal logistic hassles. Language is an issue, but certainly in Lvov for instance that can be easily overcome.
I haven't been to Nizhniy but it does have some reports here. I think it's probably similar to other volga cities like Kazan / Samara / Volgograd although Nizhniy is the biggest / richest out of those. To be honest I would prefer going to Dnepropetrovsk if you want that river / embankment atmosphere in summer and a decent sized city. Will still be much cheaper than Nizhniy, and no visa / registration hassles. Nizhniy is a former closed city so it's harder to get registration there than in other cities. (Not at a hotel, that's easy, but private registration is harder)
Basically my experience has been that Kiev is on par in terms of costs with major Russian provincial capitals like Novosibirsk or Nizhniy Novgorod. Things like transportation and accomodation might actually be cheaper in Kiev. For instance a ride on the Kiev metro is cheaper than a marshrutka ride in Samara, Russia. Once you go outside Kiev costs are lower than in any major Russian city.
Just as an example I did some searching just now and it looks like in Dnepro you can find okay cheaper evro-remont apartments for $30 a night, whereas in Volgograd they are $50+. So you'll pay about double for accommodation. I'd expect monthly rents to be about double as well. I know for instance in a city of 1 million in Russia the cheapest one-room apartments will be $300/month or so, and a decent apartment with cosmetic remont will be $450/month. Ukraine is definitely cheaper. Of course these are for extended stays, so for a single month you will pay more. In Kazan for instance if you wanted a euro-remont apartment somewhere in the center for just a single month I'd expect to pay $800 or more. I bet you can find that in Ternopil for $400 ($500 for sure). Don't use one of the daily apartment agencies, instead find one of the listings and contact the owner to negotiate a monthly rate. Use Google translate if you can't speak Russian or what I have done in the past is find a girl who will negotiate this for you on your first day there and pay her a fee for her help (say $50).
According to the link below average salary in Nizhniy Novogord was $650/month in 2009, and that was after the crisis. I'd expect it to be up to $750/$800 a month now. So young professionals while not rich won't be hard on cash for going out at night (keep in mind most don't pay for car/health insurance/housing). That's probably similar in terms of disposable income to many lower-class people in the USA. Compare that to Ternopil where average salaries were $200 in 2009 and $250 now. Once you take food/clothing out of that budget there's not much left.
(http://r52.ru/index.phtml?rid=12&fid=325&sid=44&nid=34136)
Here's a link to a Nizhny Club:
http://ztopclub.com/
Just browsing there I see that entrance to a concert in 2009 was 600 rubles ($20) to enter. I'd expect beers to be about $3-4 and cocktails $5-7. Slightly cheaper than a medium-sized US city, but probably not more than 25%. A night out at a club like that will run you easily $50 if you're drinking lightly and invite 1 or 2 girls for a cocktail. Not to mention taxi costs which after living in provincial Russia for six months I know in my city they were standard at about 100 rubles in the center. That's $3.50. In Ukraine they should be about $1 in a smaller city (10 hryvnia). Not a big deal if you are just going to one club, but taxis and cover quickly add up if you are club hopping to find the best party. When it's $20 for cover/taxi for each club, switching venues suddenly gets expensive. In provincial Ukraine it's just $4-$5 for cover+taxi charge, so going to 2-3 clubs a night is no big deal.
For an extended stay these are all good options, I think you will have success with freebies anywhere, so I would recommend the place with easier logistics and lower costs. While Russia seems more "distant" and remote it's actually more expensive and less comfortable than places in Europe like provincial Ukraine or Moldova. Still by all means try Nizhniy if you want to, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. You will be more exotic in Russia since there are fewer foreigners, but you will be much less impressive in terms of money/wealth (unless you really are wealthy, even then Russians will only believe it if you spend and flash your wealth). Remember the recent statistics that while in 1995 a huge percentage of single Russian women said they would marry a foreigner and emigrate to the West, the figure now is only something like 5%.
Also keep in mind it's my experience in terms of pros you will almost always do better in Russia than in Ukraine (Kiev excepted).
I fully understand that many on here are more constrained by time than prices. Saving $1000 doesn't matter when you are spending your 1 free week a year partying and wanting to bang hot model-quality girls. But for those of us that have lower incomes but more flexible schedules I think Ukraine is the much better value proposition. The fact that there's no visa requirement or registration and other red tape is easier is just the icing on the cake.
Since you don't speak Russian (I assume no Ukrainian either?) you know you could target Kharkiv since the number of students is insanely high and you will be there while it's in session. It's kind of the Boston of Ukraine in that not only is it a pretty big city (second largest in Ukraine) it has a very high percentage of population made up of students. You could go partying at clubs every night of the week and find girls celebrating birthdays, etc. even while school is in session. It looks to be only slightly cheaper than Kiev though, so probably about the same as Nizniy Novogord (slightly cheaper).
You could aggressively contact English departments (search their websites) and say you are offering English language lessons with a native speaker in return for being shown the city. Send your email and then don't respond to guys and friend the women on vkontakte first. Meet up with the best 5-10 prospects in terms of enthusiasm/looks. You will need a story as to why you are in Kharkiv, so figure something out that is plausible. The advantage to this strategy is you are targeting girls you know what to spend time with an English-speaker. In Ternopil there's no way you could date 10 girls simultaneously because of the anonymity issues.
Member #4274
11-03-11, 07:03
Once again, Letaxian, your information and opinion either is clear and useful or it completely compliments the info I have obtained. Thanks for your opinion. I agree with most of what you said. Especially the part about it having universities and that being a big bonus and how cheap it will be to stay there. I know an old Ukrainian woman here in Canada who is from Ternopil and she is always telling me to visit her native city on my next trip to the FSU. Ternopil looks nice and I already know one little hottie who lives there and she is dying for me to visit her. My plan is to head over on April 10th for a minumun of one month and seeing how cheap it is there I could stay longer, easily.
I hope you don't mind me picking your brain once more: any other smaller cities in Ukraine you might recommend? I have been flirting with the idea of visiting Nizhny-Novgorod, Russia. What are your thoughts on that city? Keep in mind I do not speak Russian. Again, thank you for your time and expertise.Again, thank you, Letaxian, for sharing your knowledge and opinion. I read every word your write carefully and consider all your advice. What is even stranger is that I am seriosuly considering a longer stay in Kharkov (a city you suggested) because I know number of women there not only from internet sites but from my time in Kyiv. I am considering a Kharkov / Donetsk trip or a Ternopil / Lviv trip both with a few days of fun in Kyiv. You make vaild points concerning Nihzny-Novgorod and I think I will skip Russia completely and focus on Ukraine. My second option is to always go back to Minsk and follow up on the ground work I made in September-October.
The problem with Kharkov, or so I have read on this site, is that the girls there seem to be similar to the girls in Belarus: conservative and not as apt to find a sponsor like in Kyiv or a much poorer Ukrainian city like Ternopil. However, I have also read in numerous posts here on ISG that the women in Kharkov are mostly students and absolutely beautiful. However, I don't speak Russian or Ukrainian but I do dress very well, have a trusting personality and am not afraid to spend money. So, I have a tough decision to make. Kharkov could be very rewarding or an absolute disaster. I do like your idea of contacting English departments especially since I was once an english teacher in Budapest and I am educated. This could be a valuable tool, indeed! A plausible excuse to be in Kharkov is easy, how about 'I have a Canadian friend who is married to a Ukrainain woman from here in Kharkov and she wanted to be with her parents in Kharkov for the delivery. I came to visit them and celebrate their frist child'? I like it! Sound good?
Anyway, I am not leaving until early April so I have some time and hunting on dating sites to meet some women between now and then. Once again, any thoughts or advice is not only welcomed but encouraged.
Thank you!
Anyway, I am not leaving until early April so I have some time and hunting on dating sites to meet some women between now and then. Once again, any thoughts or advice is not only welcomed but encouraged.
Thank you!Some of these towns are in some ways really shitty so moving around is not a bad idea. Although a town like Kharkov you won't exhaust in a month (even in a year). I mean we all know most of success with freebies comes from you and how you interact with girls, but picking a place to maximize your chances is never a bad idea. Kharkov has the advantage that there are pros there for sure, if you're into that whereas Ternopil you might never find any, or if you do it might be more streetwalkers geared at truckers, which even a 10-foot Pole wouldn't want to touch.
As to the Russia / Ukraine people from the Russian border towns with passports will drive to Ukraine just to do clothes / grocery shopping since prices are about 50% what they are in Kursk for example. The biggest reason these girls are interested in us is money and the promise of a better life and some excitement in their boring lives.
As for sponsorships, I think you might have it backwards. Girls in Ternopil will almost certainly be living with their parents, and will be reluctant to do this kind of thing. Your best thing going for you is the many students in Kharkiv that live in dorms / shared apartments and have the freedom to spend the night partying late, or spend the night over with someone. They have more possibilities but little personal spending money. These are perfect for sponsorships. I think the right approach in Ternopil is cafes and daytime meetings, and trying to bring girls back not to spend the night but in the evening so they can be home to mom and dad later. This is the small town vs. cosmopolitan city dynamic you see everywhere, so the strategy in the two places will be different. I would think classic one night stands would be easier in Kharkiv (pulling a girl from a club and having her spend the night).
Anyways good luck mate. I'm traveling to Ukraine soon and going to some smaller towns so I will post here again with some thoughts afterwards.
Borderland
11-03-11, 19:37
The happiest days of my life happen like this:
It's 4:30 am and you're woken by the Provodnitsa knocking on your kupe door,"dvadsat minut" she says. You stir and jump down from your bunk trying not to disturb the sleeping passengers in your compartment. You look out the window and see the lights in the distance of your approaching destination which is a provincial city deep in the heart of Russia that you've chosen to visit purely because you think no other foreigners would. It's black outside and snowing hard. You fold up your 'roll' on the bunk and get dressed in the warmth of the compartment. As the train nears the station you get your bag and move out into the corridor where other bleary eyed passengers stand with their luggage, boxes, kids. The train pulls to a stop and the Provodnitsa dressed in her long coat opens the door and drops the steps. We all shuffle along to eject ourselves from the womb of the train and out into a cold that will momentarily shock you as it hits you, like jumping into the cold pool after a banya. Taxi drivers in leather caps will surround you asking you where you're going (how do they instinctively know you're foreign?). You'll look at your Provodnitsa, the only link to civilization that you know, a surrogate mother who fussed over you on the journey and you'll want to get back on board the train where everything is warm and orderly. But you don't, instead you wish her "Vsevo haroshevo" and head off with the others over the tracks and to the terminal building. Inside is a sea of bleary eyed people and cold stares, men asleep on top of heating vents, a family surrounded by stacks of luggage. You go out into the cold to find a taxi. The best are not the touts but the quiet guys who wait patiently in their cars at the back of the car park."Gostinitsa" you say and negotiate a price, which is made difficult by the fact you've no idea where you are or how far you're going. Eventually you arrive at an old Soviet monolith in the centre of town and realize that the taxi driver didn't rip you off at all, you're definitely not in Moscow anymore. You go in and enter another world from the one you left behind in London just a few days ago, you're back in the 1970's, no 'remonted' lobby, just a big marble clad monstrosity. You walk past the two security guards in their black suits and study their faces trying to decipher if they will be 'girl friendly'. At the reception you will meet your first devushka, she'll be happily surprised by the presence of a foreigner in the hotel. You try not to register the shock of hearing the rediculous price for a room and hand her your passport. As she fills in a form you'll notice two clocks behind her, one showing local time and one showing Moscow time and you'll know you really are somewhere in deepest Russia. As the pretty receptionist gives you your key and explains the times of breakfast you know you'll have to make a play for her at some point in the trip, it's what you do. You get to your room and open it with trepidation: inside is a noisy fridge, threadbare carpet a hard looking bed and t. V. $80! You'll think. You have a wash and crash out to the sound of Russian MTV.
After a couple of hours you wake. You flick on the kettle and open the curtains to a snowy cityscape of kruschovka apartment blocks, kiosks and distant power stations. There are a few cars slowly navigating the icy road, people wait for a trolleybus in long leather coats and hats. It just looks so unwelcoming, the people so cold, the atmosphere so brutal compared to home. And then it begins, the first doubts, the first questions "what am I doing here on my own?","why did I come?","what if I don't meet anyone?","what if the women are unresponsive?","why didn't I stay in Moscow?","why did I come to Russia?" It's classic fight or flight but these are the moments you live for on these trips. And as you take your first sip of coffee you scan the city view again and remind yourself of a few facts. You remind yourself that you've been in these situations before and succeeded, that there is a city of stunning women waiting to be charmed by you, that the devs here have had the fantasy of being whisked away from it all by a dashing lothario since they began msturbating and you're here to full-fill that fantasy. You remind yourself that after your first approach all the nerves will dissipate as if by magic only to be replaced by the familiar excitement of meeting women of incredible beauty. It's time to go to work. And so you blast out the MTV and prepare yourself, shower, dressed, shot of vodka.
You descend in the elevator to the hotel lobby. As you approach the reception you notice that the pretty receptionist from earlier has been replaced by an even hotter one. She smiles warmly, she knows who you are, she's been told. You smile and as you hand in your key you engage in small talk, asking her about the town, what to do, where to go. And then as you say bye and turn to leave, U-turn back to her as though you just remembered something as an after thought and deliver the line you have used time and again,"why don't you put your number in my phone, just in case I get lost or something". She will smile knowingly then take your phone and insert her number. You've just number closed the first dev of the trip and it feels good. As U-turn with a smile of satisfaction the security guard will give you an unfriendly look which says "I've been trying to get her number for 6 months motherfucker". You walk outside and the town that an hour ago seemed so intimidating is now a town of friendly possibilities. You are in 'The Provinces'.
Curious, but why do you recommend Khabarovsk over Vlad? Nothing much to see / do in Khabarovsk. It's just the suburbs. Also, Vlad is probably easier to navigate for the non-Russian speaking people.Hi Sweep,
I had a better time in Khabarovsk than Vlad. Simple as that. I thought the clubs were better and the girls were friendlier.
Cheers,
Dude, more. Please! I'm hoping to make it to Russia one day.
Suka Shalava
11-11-11, 13:54
You make vaild points concerning Nihzny-Novgorod and I think I will skip Russia completely and focus on Ukraine. My second option is to always go back to Minsk and follow up on the ground work I made in September-October.
The problem with Kharkov, or so I have read on this site, is that the girls there seem to be similar to the girls in Belarus: conservative and not as apt to find a sponsor like in Kyiv or a much poorer Ukrainian city like Ternopil. However, I have also read in numerous posts here on ISG that the women in Kharkov are mostly students and absolutely beautiful. However, I don't speak Russian or Ukrainian but I do dress very well, have a trusting personality and am not afraid to spend money. So, I have a tough decision to make. Kharkov could be very rewarding or an absolute disaster. I do like your idea of contacting English departments.Don't write off Russia so quickly.
After 8 years and 15 spring or autumn visits to Kharkov, I stopped going there and now I've only gone to Russia for the last four years. And I'm not sorry about that at all. I simply had never been to Russia, and so I wanted to try it, to see how they compared and if it was really any better.
All of Latex's reasons are valid, but what it comes down to is whether a monger is going for business or not.
If someone is going strictly for mongering, there are some points that have not been mentioned yet. Some readers will think they are not important points. You can decide for yourself about that.
Part of the puzzle, is about how easy it is to get there or not. Visas and registrations are more difficult. You can look at that two ways. You can take the easier road. But the more difficult path will probably lead you to where making acquaintances will allow you meet women that you will be their first foreigner to sleep with.
Abou Kharkov, the pro scene there is VERY limited. There's almost no agencies to call. And the one that is there, usually has only one woman that's a 7 or 8/10. The rest are skanks.
But for sponsorships, the possibilities in a city of 1. 5 million people, are limitless. BUT the limit, is your lack of speaking Russian. Without that, your chances for sponsorships decrease about 80% to 90. Because the women that would be open to that speak zero english. With no Russian, you'll never even find them or vice versa, let alone figure out where to meet. Yes, Mamba helps, buts its definitely not enough. So your only option is to make friends with SOMEONE who can translate for you, and pay them to be your sponsorship interpreter.
Don't get hung up on students. Lots of women that are 19-21 attend some university or institutes, but there are a lot that don't too. They're not all that different, in that they all need spending money for something. They're certainly not all absolutely beautiful. Don't let that slow you down either.
Like Kharkov or Nizhny or anywhere, its a tough road to plough. There's always highs and lows, good days, great days, slow days, and shitty times. Keep in mind I am talking about meeting not less than one or even two new women EVERY single day, AT A MINIMUM! Any goal set lower than that is not much of a challenge.
The key is certainly not clubs like ZTOP. Unless your goal is to listen to dance music blasting loud enough to make you go deaf, and to try to get a phone number of someone that may or may not ever meet you another time, and may or may not sleep with you.
What I've learned, is that its all about being outgoing and friendly and courteous and making lots and lots of friends, and being overly generous. If you can do that, eventually the word gets around and the women who are open to sponsorships will come to you via their girlfriends, and then you really don't have to worry about taxis or metros or buses or restaurants or nightclubs or agencies or visas or registrations.
There's nothing inexpensive about that though. Until you meet some ladies that aren't greedy, and then it all evens out.
Curious, but why do you recommend Khabarovsk over Vlad? Nothing much to see / do in Khabarovsk. It's just the suburbs. Also, Vlad is probably easier to navigate for the non-Russian speaking people.Do both, there close enough anyway.
Do both, there close enough anyway.They sure are. A nice easy overnight train, pick up a Khabarovsk dyev in Vlad who wants to go back to Khabarovsk and show you around, screw her senseless in the train on the way and then do a couple of her friends when you arrive.
Sounds like fun!
(and very do-able).
Cheers,
Member #4274
11-14-11, 12:14
They sure are. A nice easy overnight train, pick up a Khabarovsk dyev in Vlad who wants to go back to Khabarovsk and show you around, screw her senseless in the train on the way and then do a couple of her friends when you arrive.
Sounds like fun!
(and very do-able).
Cheers, I love it! Good advice! I will try that this spring)
Interesting article about Krasnodar (in Russian).
Seems to be a great party place.
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1797063/print?stamp=634593179578686931
Member #4274
01-06-12, 05:22
The 2012 World Junior Hockey Championship in Calgary, Alberta, Canada just finished (Sweden defeated Russia for the gold medal) and I am already considering a trip to the 2013 tournament in Ufa, Russia. That's a long way from Canada but I am up for the challenge. I have heard Ufa is a 6 hour flight from Moscow. Other than that I know nothing about this city.
Has anyone been to Ufa? What is the city like?
Of course I will look at the usual websites to meet women in Ufa but advice from members here is always welcomed.
Happy New Year!
Barry Wood
01-28-12, 05:14
I will be in Ryazan in June for two weeks. Does anyone have any knowledge of this city? ? Are there women avalible? If so, at what cost? Any info. Would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
B. Wood
Is there any action in Kaluga? Are there any clubs or web sites for sex ads? I will be in Kaluga for couple of weeks and I am wondering if I have to go to Moscow for mongering.
CherchezFemme
03-24-12, 04:11
Is it true that Lake Baikal is a popular tourist area? I met a Russian guy who was telling me that he's been to Lake Baikal (he didn't specify where exactly) in the summer and that there were lots of hot women and beaches. He really pushed that it was worth visiting and that it would be a good time. I've been doing some research online and while I can see that the lake is gorgeous, it seems more like a vacation spot for people wanting to spend time in nature. I have seen no evidence that it is a party spot and that there are lots of hotels and clubs to go to.
What do you Russian experts say?
I'm thinking that for beaches and lots of hot EE ladies it would be the Black Sea, Turkey, Egypt.
Stravinsky
03-24-12, 17:57
I met a Russian guy who was telling me that he's been to Lake Baikal (he didn't specify where exactly) in the summer and that there were lots of hot women and beaches.I think he was just having a little fun with the innostranyets (foreigner).
Ginkgo Bear
03-25-12, 09:49
Is there any action in Kaluga? Are there any clubs or web sites for sex ads? I will be in Kaluga for couple of weeks and I am wondering if I have to go to Moscow for mongering.I was in Kaluga last month. You better plan to go to Moscow.
I was in Kaluga last month. You better plan to go to Moscow.Do you know any web sites with girls from Kaluga? Are there any clubs?
And from Kaluga to Moscow how much time is needed to go? Is it possible and realistic to go for the night and be back in the morning in Kaluga?
Ginkgo Bear
03-28-12, 17:53
Do you know any web sites with girls from Kaluga? Are there any clubs?
And from Kaluga to Moscow how much time is needed to go? Is it possible and realistic to go for the night and be back in the morning in Kaluga?Totally unrealistic in winter with the road condition, I needed more than 5 hours from Kaluga to Sheremetievo airport. When reaching Moscow suburbs anyway, you will learn the real meaning of "traffic jams" just like one learns the meaning of winter when experiencing it in Russia.
With good traffic conditions, you will need 8 hours for a round trip.
Totally unrealistic in winter with the road condition, I needed more than 5 hours from Kaluga to Sheremetievo airport. When reaching Moscow suburbs anyway, you will learn the real meaning of "traffic jams" just like one learns the meaning of winter when experiencing it in Russia.
With good traffic conditions, you will need 8 hours for a round trip.Well, I'll be there in spring and summer, so there won't be snow, but still 8 hours is a lot. Isn't there train or car is needed?
But is Kaluga completely dead? There must be some working girls, it is 400, 000 people after all.
Ginkgo Bear
03-30-12, 07:49
Well, I'll be there in spring and summer, so there won't be snow, but still 8 hours is a lot. Isn't there train or car is needed?
But is Kaluga completely dead? There must be some working girls, it is 400, 000 people after all.That is very discreet and if you are one of those foreigners working for / with the foreign / JV companies located there, you look like a a flea in a bowl of milk. The place is small and you are very visible.
Fast train is an unknown concept in Russia except between Moscow and SP, maybe.
TriggerHappy
04-07-12, 10:07
Going to Irkutsk and Ulan ude in June. I've never been to this part of Russia so all information on freebees, Clubs, totchkas, in house hotel pros, agencies and so on are welcome. Thanks guys!
Member #4243
04-14-12, 21:42
Having done 8 german fkk holidays I have been for a long while now been looking for something more adventurous. Having read doggers report on niznhy it has arisen real interest in me especially as there is a connecting flight from my hometown in england to niznhy via frankfurt. Moscow just seems far too expensive for p4p. A trip to russia would last at maximum 1 week so if I went to niznhy I would be looking for the most attractive p4p options. Dogger mentions girls in the cafe at hotel oka? If I stayed at hotel oka would I be able to find all my p4p girls and options within the hotel without venturing out for reasons of practicality and being a newbie in the city with a limited amout of time there? What level of beauty and attractiveness would these hotel girls be on? Also mentioned is club dream a strip club with a neighbouring hotel? Are there any other venues in niznhy where I could find guaranteed p4p girls of a high calibre I do not know about to bring back to my hotel. Any updates on niznhy gratefully appreciated.
If the nature of these enquiries seem a bit "demanding" it is because I would really need rock solid evidence that I could find beautiful girls in the hotel oka etc in order to give me the drive and motivation in order to do such an adventure a first for me.
Finally is niznhy as russia's 3rd city great for sightseeing too or drab?
Many thanks
The 2012 World Junior Hockey Championship in Calgary, Alberta, Canada just finished (Sweden defeated Russia for the gold medal) and I am already considering a trip to the 2013 tournament in Ufa, Russia. That's a long way from Canada but I am up for the challenge. I have heard Ufa is a 6 hour flight from Moscow. Other than that I know nothing about this city.
Has anyone been to Ufa? What is the city like?
Of course I will look at the usual websites to meet women in Ufa but advice from members here is always welcomed.
Happy New Year!I have been to UFA a few times, never really looked around much, but it is a typical Russian City in the Russian Republic of Baskortistan (or something like that). It isn't six hours from Moscow, more like two or three hours with two or three hours timechange I think. Two things to remember are 1) Russia seems to stay on Summer Time all year round now and 2) if you get a train the whole rail network works on Moscow time.
There were girls in the bars of some or the hotels I have stayed at, as is usual in the traditional Russian hotels. Otherwise I think calling them in is usually okay, just ask the front desk staff. I haven't done this but have seen others do it.
Good Luck!
Johnsue
Nice photo reportage today in the GREAT englishrussia site.
An amateur "Ural Striptease Championship" obviously shot in a dump somewhere between Magnitogorsk and Perm. It's a very nice would say Borat. Reminds me those amateur strip contests organized weekly in every drinking hole in FSU where drunk sluts are ready to bare it all for a free mojito jug. God I love Russia.
http://englishrussia.com/2012/05/02/the-v-ural-striptease-championship/
Hi!
I will be a week in Kaliningrad next week. Are there any insider tips where to go, where to find the best girls, and which prices can be considered FAIR?
Cheers A.
Stravinsky
06-14-12, 16:22
Hi! I will be a week in Kaliningrad next week. Are there any insider tips where to goDid you ever consider maybe, like, trying a search on, you know, Kaliningrad?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?772-Other-Areas&p=947830&viewfull=1#post947830
Geez Louise, do I have to do everything for you guys? ;)
Hi!
Sure, I did. But the linked posts from you are also three years old! I guess no information there is useful anymore. I am sorry, but I really did NOT find any recent posts with any useful information where to find girls, and what expect to pay.
Do you perhaps have a short update on Kalingrad?
Cheers
Did you ever consider maybe, like, trying a search on, you know, Kaliningrad?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?772-Other-Areas&p=947830&viewfull=1#post947830
Geez Louise, do I have to do everything for you guys? .
Stravinsky
06-15-12, 19:52
Ali,
Don't worry, time passes very slowly in Kaliningrad. I'm sure the info in those posts is still relevant.
Looks like you will have to be the one to update us on Kaliningrad. Looking forward to your report!
Ali,
Don't worry, time passes very slowly in Kaliningrad. I'm sure the info in those posts is still relevant.
Looks like you will have to be the one to update us on Kaliningrad. Looking forward to your report!To be honest the info here was really not helpful at all.
I spent quite some time doing research in the net and also the city but with very little success. Called all kinds of "escort" services, but usually they hardly spoke 2 words English or hang up. The one who spoke a few words were from nalevo. Org but of course did not show up with the promised girls from the internet (nice pics) but two absolutely awful girls. I told him to go away as these girls look a bit different to what I expected.
BTW, the 1500 said on the homepages for one hour (approx. €40-) are never offered when you then talk to them. Then it is always 2000 or 2500- for one hour.
I also tried to go to the "Moskowskij Prospekt" street where there are expected to be the street hookers. Yet no taxi wanted to take me there. A nice older guy than started to call around as he understood that I am looking for a girl. After waiting for 30min he brought me to some "Sauna".2500- for the girl, and of course an extra 1000- for the "sauna" which never was mentioned before. The girl was okay if you like big tits and are okay with some extra kilo. I am actually NOT. I like neither of those two, but after 1hr arriving in some dark street with the sauna club I also did not want to go home. So I tried.
The club was pretty low standard. But yes, it had a small pool, a billiard table, and even a sauna (surprisingly. After a few minutes we started kissing and doing the job. She tried to be nice, but really, the girl was for me not hot at all, so I was happy to leave early.
Oh boy!
Of course I also checked all the Russian websites mentioned here in the forums (use google chrome to translate). But also there absolute no luck for kaliningrad, usually only 1-2girls listed here. 99% is Moscow, no idea if would work for there.
Here are the websites for kaliningrad which I found :
http://dj.nalevo.org/
http://kontakt39.ru/
http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/de/stickers?id_country=50&id_city=1417&id_part=242
http://p-kaliningrad.ru/vip.php
http://orxidea.com/
Anyways, Kaliningrad really sucks when it comes to hookers so far.
Of course there are some really nice and super-slim girls on the street. Just as I like it. But they are often with guys (mostly awful and scary ones of course. Or also do not speak any English.
No idea how I should hook up with a nice Russian girl here and get some taste of NICE Russian women. In general the city (probably the country) makes a depressive negative impression. People look angry, few smiles, few nice buildings. Really a taste of bad eastern Europe in my opinion.
Anyways. I do not give up. A few days left, perhaps a good experience is to come.
But yes, I agree with a previous report. Man, oh man, Kaliningrad sucks (so far).
Cheers A.
Stravinsky
06-24-12, 18:09
No idea how I should hook up with a nice Russian girl here and get some taste of NICE Russian women. In general the city (probably the country) makes a depressive negative impression. People look angry, few smiles, few nice buildings. Really a taste of bad eastern Europe in my opinion.Ali,
Thanks for your report. It's important for us to hear about the disappointing experiences, as much as the good times with the hot babes.
Sorry to hear that you are not having any luck in Kaliningrad. But, it's not surprising. Kaliningrad is, technically, a part of Russia, but really, it's just an accident of history. Nobody goes to Kaliningrad, unless they must. It's better to be from Kaliningrad.
Just for the hell of it, I did a search on Kaliningrad in sextalk and looked through all the posts for the past year, including yours! I gotta hand it to you, you are nothing, if not determined. The only report about anyone having sex, was a post about a girl in Moscow! Don't know how that got in there. The rest were mainly guys like yourself, asking about where they could get laid in Kaliningrad. Plus some discussions about politics and economy.
I would never trust a website called nalevo.org. Na levo means, "on the left", in Russian, and only bad things come from the left, as you discovered.
It seems from your report that there are beautiful, young women in Kaliningrad, but if you don't speak Russian, you may as well be looking at pictures in a museum.
If you have any time left, here's a couple you might try from omen.ru;
Mimm: http://omen.ru/profile/552097/?r=s
Sveta: http://omen.ru/profile/555215/?r=s
They are both well reviewed, and maybe one of them speaks a "leetle beet" of English.
Удачи вам
Strav
I would like to exchange opinions with others about the best places to monger in Russia for someone who speaks Russian. Please make suggestions.
During the past year I have been to Moscow and Petersburg. I have also visited many other parts of Russia previously. My impressions are as follows:
- Moscow: Most expensive, very beautiful girls and sophisticated sex available but you have to pay a lot for it, and the place is so huge that it is overly time-consuming to get around. Even more than in many other capitals, there is a lot of arrogance in Moscow. Girls from the provinces are often much nicer. On the other hand, you can use the massive number of internet ads to target girls with the precise parameters that you want through advanced searches.
- Petersburg: A slightly toned down version of Moscow, a bit cheaper, slightly shorter distances, perhaps even more girls (comparing Petersburg and Moscow, my idea is that Moscow is the city of power and money and therefore has a relatively large population of wealthy and powerful men, whereas Petersburg is thought of as beautiful and romantic and attracts a lot of female students and other young women).
- Karelia and Murmansk Oblast: overrun by Finns, Swedes and Norwegians, smallish towns and many of the pretty girls have (other) gainful employment or have left.
- Parts of Eastern Russia: overrun by Japanese / Koreans / Chinese who are desperate and drive up prices.
So I am wondering where is really good for mongering in Russia? My ideal is to be able to go somewhere for anything 4-7 days, and sleep with 2-3 beautiful young women per day without going bankrupt. What I need then is a place with a big (female) population; where the business is reasonably well organized (well run salons / brothels and / or internet sites) so that I can operate efficiently; and easy transportation within the city (not too great distances, not too many traffic jams, or a good metro) ; dirt cheap (not an oil town or anything like that, and not close to a wealthy neighbouring country) , not emptied of youth who have all emigrated; not overrun by Westerners (so that I am more interesting to the girls) preferably in a poor region with lots of unemployment; preferably not too difficult to get to from the outside world. A place with a high percentage of blonde girls is a plus (not because I am not interested in others, but because it is easier to find others other places and blondes must be one of Russia's comparative advantages).
Obviously I cannot satisfy all of my requirements, the point is rather to find the optimal compromise between them. I have tried to look into average income per capita in Russia regions. I have pasted the list below (sorry its in Cyrillics) , with the poorest at the top and getting wealthier as you move down the list (data from 2007). The poorest provinces are in southern Russia, in the North Caucasus and contiguous areas. But I presume much of this area is potentially violent and dangerous (though I could be mistaken). Apart from those places, some of the more interesting seem to be Ivanovskaya oblast, Bryanskaya oblast, Kirovskaya oblast, Penzenskaya oblast, and Psovskaya oblast. I am particularly interested in Pskov, but the capital may be too small (200. 000) to have a big and interesting pay for play market.
Your opinions, please?
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So I am wondering where is really good for mongering in Russia?As they say, this is the $64, 000 question.
Clearly you have done some homework in this area so I won't bore you with statistics of my own. IMHO, there's always a danger in going to paces that are TOO small in that you will draw attention to yourself very quickly and potentially put yourself in a dangerous situation. Having said that, I think that if you stick to some of the provincial capitals, you will be just fine as the provincial capitals tend to draw the more adventurous girls to the "big city" from the countryside. While these are not all capitals per se, the ones that come to mind from my own personal experiences have been Tyumen, Ufa, Krasnoyarsk, Nonosibirsk, Tomsk, Omsk. Granted these are all quite far away from Moscow so you might want to consider some that are not so far like Nizhninovgorod, Tver, Tula, and maybe even Voronezh. As I say, this is a huge topic that could be debated for days. The fact is that ALL of these provincial towns have working girls and girls who are simply seeking adventure. To be sure the prices are all significantly less that in Moscow. That's a given.
I have tried to look into average income per capita in Russia regions. I have pasted the list below (sorry its in Cyrillics) , with the poorest at the top and getting wealthier as you move down the list (data from 2007).Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Russian_subdivisions_GRP_per_capita.svg
You are right, beside the North Caucasus region, which is culturally highly interesting and where many girls have persian features and are often gorgeous, but which is a no-go, unless you want to be sequestred and killed by a jalous cousin or brother and finish as a shashlik, the "European Russia" region (Briansk, Orel, Smolensk, Penza, Voronehz, ect) are the oblasts with the lowest GDP per capita, therefore a priori the cheapest (oddly enough, Kostroma oblast, in the Golden Ring region, is also very low on the list).
Nevertheless I personally wouldn't go there for P4P, but for the freebie scene. That said, IMO even a city of 400, 000 as Briansk can become rather small when you start serial dating, as quite often there will only be three or four "in" cafes and two or three popular nightclubs where girls go to. Also, your "exotismess" can definitely boost your position, but also can make of you a target for the local gopniki / flatheads.
So I am wondering where is really good for mongering in Russia? My ideal is to be able to go somewhere for anything 4-7 days, and sleep with 2-3 beautiful young women per day without going bankrupt. What I need then is a place with a big (female) population; where the business is reasonably well organized (well run salons / brothels and / or internet sites) so that I can operate efficiently; and easy transportation within the city (not too great distances, not too many traffic jams, or a good metro) ; dirt cheap (not an oil town or anything like that, and not close to a wealthy neighbouring country) , not emptied of youth who have all emigrated; not overrun by Westerners (so that I am more interesting to the girls) preferably in a poor region with lots of unemployment;As a side note, this is not Russia, but Tashkent seems to fill all your requirements. Big enough for a reasonably good nighlife (fourth largest city in FSU) , dirty cheap, no western foreigners, and a decent P4P scene.
Chill Bill
02-27-13, 21:08
Hello. Anyone travel to these two cities recently? If so, how's the scene there?
Posted a lot of things in the Anal Conoisseur section. On ground I travelled extensively deep Russia, on both sides of the Urals, for some works, chasing intensively for youngies with booty avaliable! Wonderful. A lot of photos too.
IT
Stravinsky
05-08-13, 21:17
Posted a lot of things in the Anal Conoisseur section. On ground I travelled extensively deep Russia, on both sides of the Urals, for some works, chasing intensively for youngies with booty avaliable! Wonderful. A lot of photos too.
ITIT,
Thanks for letting us know about your travels. Can you tell us about...
The places you've been,
The things you've seen,
The people you met?
GoblinCrazyy
05-10-13, 15:58
Hi folks,
I have followed lot of tips from this website recently.
However this time it is tricky. I am traveling to a place called Yuzhno-Sakhalin or Sakhalin as it is known. I have done extensive web search and have given up to find any escort service!
Somebody please help me or share some tips on how to find good escorts in Sakhalin! There are absolutely no web provider! Or am I missing some trick.
Really appreciate your help. (General tips also can help)
GoblinCrazyy
05-10-13, 17:09
Hi Folks,
I have been following this forum in recent months while I was traveling and I have found this extermely useful for all kinds of info!
But now I am faced with a challenge. I am traveling to this place called Yuzhno-Sakhalin. Unfortunately despite my best of web searches I am unable to find a single website or forum which provides info about escort service in Sakhalin.
I know its a rural island in russia, but I was disappointed to see that no escort service is there in this island! (I hope I am wrong). So dear friends, kindly provide me info on any kind of service available in sakhalin. Or any experiences that is worth sharing!
Shoebridge
06-17-13, 01:24
Headed to Vladivostok in a week, have RTFFs, and will stay at the Hotel Vlad, as previously recommended. There wasn't a lot of real fresh info on the city. Will report back with what I find.
Anyone with updated info or rumors, please let me know and I'll incorporate into my search!
Shoebridge
06-28-13, 15:13
Depressingly little information about this region of Russia, as seen by the lack of replies to my question. Wanted to give you guys the little I did find out:
1. Speak some Russian. No one speaks english, its really hard without.
2. The Hotel Vladivostok has somewhat cleaned up the former behavior. The pimps by the elevator have gone, however the strip club in the basement remains (2, 000 Rub entrance fee!). No idea if you can get the girls to leave with you. There were some hotties though. Bodies were 9's and faces 7s-8s. They have the typical Russian "crazy" menu, where you can order things like "right to spray champagne on naked girl. $300 USD", or "we will call you lord all evening. $30 USD". I'm into those things, but don't want to pay for them!
The upstairs bar and massage parlor were either closed or only had men in them. Struck out in the sauna too. Was about to give up hope, when I spied a slutty looking spinner smoking in an alleyway. Dark corners not scaring me, I went and said hi. Turned out to be a pretty 24 year old genuine-Siberian pro on a cig break. Asking where she worked, it turned out that the gold mine was the karaoke bar, which amazingly had its own mini brothel attached! Who'd have known.
Prices have risen, and I was quoted 4, 500, which got down to 4, 000. Service was fair (CBJ, FS) , helped as she spoke some English and gave GFE. Didn't see too many of the other women there, but I did see an old Korean guy bring a skinny blond up with his really young son in the elevator. Kid's got to learn somehow. Anyway, its nice and simple when you can give your room number, and just wait for her to pad upstairs to see you.
3. See #1 again. I've been utterly hampered finding action, I can't tell pro's from non-pro's on the street, and have struggled to get anywhere elsewhere. Banya's etc. That said, the Banya action, and I used a cabbie to figure it out, is basically:
1, 000. 1,500 for the rental of the sauna. These are often rather nice places, and would fit a group of 4-6 nicely. TV room, billiards, plunge pool, sauna, steam, showers etc. They have beer and snacks too. You / they / the cabbie, then phones in the girls. There's a bit of a choice, but overall I found the quality and prices lower (2, 000-2, 500). Choose your girl and get to it. They typically don't want to spoil their makeup, so you're on your own, just with your friends, in the sauna.
4. I can't figure out which hotels have inhouse brothels, and which don't. Sadly Expedia don't allow you to filter results that way. So far I'm 50/50.
Not sure what other avenues exist either, or if other cities in the area are like this. As my work moves me around occasionally.
Shoe
Depressingly little information about this region of Russia, as seen by the lack of replies to my question. Wanted to give you guys the little I did find out:
1. Speak some Russian. No one speaks english, its really hard without.
2. The Hotel Vladivostok has somewhat cleaned up the former behavior. The pimps by the elevator have gone, however the strip club in the basement remains (2, 000 Rub entrance fee!). No idea if you can get the girls to leave with you. There were some hotties though. Bodies were 9's and faces 7s-8s. They have the typical Russian "crazy" menu, where you can order things like "right to spray champagne on naked girl. $300 USD", or "we will call you lord all evening. $30 USD". I'm into those things, but don't want to pay for them!
The upstairs bar and massage parlor were either closed or only had men in them. Struck out in the sauna too. Was about to give up hope, when I spied a slutty looking spinner smoking in an alleyway. Dark corners not scaring me, I went and said hi. Turned out to be a pretty 24 year old genuine-Siberian pro on a cig break. Asking where she worked, it turned out that the gold mine was the karaoke bar, which amazingly had its own mini brothel attached! Who'd have known.
Prices have risen, and I was quoted 4, 500, which got down to 4, 000. Service was fair (CBJ, FS) , helped as she spoke some English and gave GFE. Didn't see too many of the other women there, but I did see an old Korean guy bring a skinny blond up with his really young son in the elevator. Kid's got to learn somehow. Anyway, its nice and simple when you can give your room number, and just wait for her to pad upstairs to see you.
3. See #1 again. I've been utterly hampered finding action, I can't tell pro's from non-pro's on the street, and have struggled to get anywhere elsewhere. Banya's etc. That said, the Banya action, and I used a cabbie to figure it out, is basically:
1, 000. 1,500 for the rental of the sauna. These are often rather nice places, and would fit a group of 4-6 nicely. TV room, billiards, plunge pool, sauna, steam, showers etc. They have beer and snacks too. You / they / the cabbie, then phones in the girls. There's a bit of a choice, but overall I found the quality and prices lower (2, 000-2, 500). Choose your girl and get to it. They typically don't want to spoil their makeup, so you're on your own, just with your friends, in the sauna.
4. I can't figure out which hotels have inhouse brothels, and which don't. Sadly Expedia don't allow you to filter results that way. So far I'm 50/50.
Not sure what other avenues exist either, or if other cities in the area are like this. As my work moves me around occasionally.
ShoeExcellent report Shoe. Thank you for your efforts.
I'm planning a trip to Moscow and would like to combine it with another city for a weekend. Some background:
- Me and my friend don't speak any Russian, planning to learn a few phrases.
- We're both 34, middle European and would like to try first normal clubs, bars and lounges.
- 2nd option is to pay for more.
Which city is recommended other than Moscow and St. Petersburg? Ekaterinburg, Samara or any other? Where are the most beautiful girls of Russia?
Any recommendation would be appreciated.
I'm planning a trip to Moscow and would like to combine it with another city for a weekend. Some background:
- Me and my friend don't speak any Russian, planning to learn a few phrases.
- We're both 34, middle European and would like to try first normal clubs, bars and lounges.
- 2nd option is to pay for more.
Which city is recommended other than Moscow and St. Petersburg? Ekaterinburg, Samara or any other? Where are the most beautiful girls of Russia?
Any recommendation would be appreciated.Hi Guys,
I have the same problem. Deciding not easy. I have read all great posts of Latexian and Prosal and other guy's.
I have 5 days from 07. 08. To 11. 08. 2013 (Thurdsay-to Sunday.). I am Turkish 34 years old. Not very bad looking. No Russian speaker only english.
My options are;
1) Take the direct flight to Simferepol from Istanbul and move around villages. Please take a look at (http://www.kazantipturkey.com/) It looks like a good idea to join the house music festival in Kazantip. Anyone here has an idea about it? Or if you are not positive about it which villages do you advice me? I am much more interested in Freebie scene.
2) Take again the direct flight from Istanbul to Moscow. Head to provinces. Find a middle sized city for hunting.
3) Forget the provincial Russia. Stay in Moscow (I have been before) take you chance for the big capital city because I have limited time.
I prefer in this season; a sun and beach atmosphere but of course the most imp. Point is freebies here not sun and beach.
I am waiting your comments and discussion.
Cheers
Stravinsky
08-02-13, 17:52
I have 5 days from 07. 08. To 11. 08. 2013 (Thurdsay-to Sunday.). I am Turkish 34 years old. Not very bad looking. No Russian speaker only english.If you don't speak Russian, then the provinces are a waste of time, unless you just want to be a tourist and see the countryside.
Moscow is your best bet.
If you are looking for sun and beach, then you might want to try Odessa. It could be worthwhile this time of year, even for someone with no Russian skills.
But why even go to Russia at all? If you are Turkish, looking for destinations from Istanbul, then why not travel to Chisinau? Plenty of ethnic Russian and Ukrainian women still in Moldova.
If you don't speak Russian, then the provinces are a waste of time, unless you just want to be a tourist and see the countryside.
Moscow is your best bet.
If you are looking for sun and beach, then you might want to try Odessa. It could be worthwhile this time of year, even for someone with no Russian skills.
But why even go to Russia at all? If you are Turkish, looking for destinations from Istanbul, then why not travel to Chisinau? Plenty of ethnic Russian and Ukrainian women still in Moldova.No problem with Chisinau? Why you especially advice Chisinau? Is there any special reason? Why you don't think Crimea isn't a good bet. Take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPV-EZxmrg
Stravinsky
08-02-13, 21:26
Take a look at this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPV-EZxmrgNothing wrong with the Crimea, if you speak Russian. If not, then I think you will just be disappointed and frustrated.
From Istanbul, Chisanau is much easier to get to and there will be plenty of beautiful slavic women who are already accustomed to Turkish men.
Are there places in the world where people are having fun and enjoying themselves? Absolutely! The question is: are you able to join the party?
Nothing wrong with the Crimea, if you speak Russian. If not, then I think you will just be disappointed and frustrated.
From Istanbul, Chisanau is much easier to get to and there will be plenty of beautiful slavic women who are already accustomed to Turkish men.
Are there places in the world where people are having fun and enjoying themselves? Absolutely! The question is: are you Able to join the party?Dear Stravinsky, First of all thanks a lot for your interest and useful info shared. I really take that into account because you are a very experienced mongerer. I am just trying to learn much from you. You can be right on Chisinau thing. I had removed Chisinau from my list because there are confusing posts in Moldova thread about there. Some guys think it's a heaven and some of them think that it's the biggest sheet hole in Europe (quoted exact words from one of the posts there.) I have read in some Turkish forums that there are many girls there can speak Turkish (Gagauz Turks) but I have no idea about what percent of them? If 1 of every 20 girls can speak Turkish there then it's the same ratio for Speaking English for Ukranian. I have been in Kharkov and Kiev 3 years ago so I understand you very well. I get back frustrated and disappointed after one week but my friend scored with two freebies easily. (He also can't speak Russian) By the way I understand now we had made a mistake at that time by choosing Kharkov in August. We should head to Odessa or Crimea seaside. Kharko is a student city and most of them were in seaside or in their hometown in August. It would be a great choice let s say in April or May. But anyway past is past. (I hope I am not asking too much) what do you think about Tiraspol? I cant speak russian.Flight from Istanbul to Chisinau just 1 and half hour but to simferepol is also 1 and half hour so no diffference in means of distance..Both are easier to get in and i have direct flight options..
Stravinsky
08-02-13, 23:36
Some guys think it's a heaven and some of them think that it's the biggest sheet hole in EuropeIt's true! :D Just depends on your perspective. Is the glass half empty, or is it half full?
I can't tell you how many women in Chisinau speak Turkish. The main language is Romanian, which is very similar to Italian. So Italians feel right at home.
Tiraspol is the capital of the Transdnistria region. They consider themselves to be a separate state from Moldova, almost exclusively ethnic Russians.
Now, if you wanted a trip that could be productive from a mongering standpoint, as well as interesting from a cultural perspective, what you could do is... fly to Chisinau, spend a few nights there and then travel to Odessa, through Tiraspol, and end your trip in Odessa. But it doesn't sound as if you have enough time for that.
It's true! . Just depends on your perspective. Is the glass half empty, or is it half full?
I can't tell you how many women in Chisinau speak Turkish. The main language is Romanian, which is very similar to Italian. So Italians feel right at home.
Tiraspol is the capital of the Transdnistria region. They consider themselves to be a separate state from Moldova, almost exclusively ethnic Russians.
Now, if you wanted a trip that could be productive from a mongering standpoint, as well as interesting from a cultural perspective, what you could do is. Fly to Chisinau, spend a few nights there and then travel to Odessa, through Tiraspol, and end your trip in Odessa. But it doesn't sound as if you have enough time for that.Ok. You wanted this and I will make you frenzy with a 5th option. How about Beirut / Lebanon? Most of them can speak english. And despite it's an arabic country people say that they had seen the most beau women they had seen in their life. Again no visa for me. Much much better facilities. Much fun in city. But I don't know from mongering perspective.
Stravinsky
08-03-13, 05:08
And despite it's an arabic country people say that they had seen the most beau women they had seen in their life.Yeah, but will they go down on you without a condom?
OK, I'll see your Beirut and raise you Antalya. Beautiful bay with sun, sea and sandy beaches. Large Russian expat and holiday community. Plenty of dyevchyonkii working the big resort hotels and Russian clubs and you don't even have to leave home.
Yeah, but will they go down on you without a condom?
OK, I'll see your Beirut and raise you Antalya. Beautiful bay with sun, sea and sandy beaches. Large Russian expat and holiday community. Plenty of dyevchyonkii working the big resort hotels and Russian clubs and you don't even have to leave home.Probably they wouldn't because they will be very busy with their arabic boyfriend. Take a look at this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suaexuZ1f9k) The place is full of men. This is the valid situation also for Antalya and all other Turkey at the moment. It's ramadan holiday so all Turkish guys who didn't make sex neither drink a droplet of alcohol during a month will fall into Antalya and other places. Just for your information who is planning to come Turkey in this time period. Please don't! If you don't want to compete with 10 other Turks for a girl like I did last year. I am very much into Crimea side. It looks like I will go for it. Moldova is still in my mind. I don't know.
Hello do you have information on the city of Yaroslavl, bar, sauna, place to find girls?
Thank
Stravinsky
10-09-13, 20:56
Hello do you have information on the city of Yaroslavl, bar, sauna, place to find girls?
ThankBruno, go check it out and let us know what you find. We look forward to your report.
Bruno, go check it out and let us know what you find. We look forward to your report.I am there I was thinking this forum maybe useful to share information since nothing found here.
DavidVanSchuma
10-10-13, 06:37
For Yaroslavl check out the club Med, pronounced Myod (Honey). Otherwise this city has the greatest disproportion where girls outnumber guys, so enjoy. Hotel Ibis in the centre is a good choice of accommodation. I'm sure there are a number of strip clubs around if you ask a taxi driver.
For Yaroslavl check out the club Med, pronounced Myod (Honey). Otherwise this city has the greatest disproportion where girls outnumber guys, so enjoy. Hotel Ibis in the centre is a good choice of accommodation. I'm sure there are a number of strip clubs around if you ask a taxi driver.Thank David,
Is there people at Yaroslavl, available for going out together and find good place.
DavidVanSchuma
10-11-13, 07:13
Thank David,
Is there people at Yaroslavl, available for going out together and find good place.It's a great disappoint to me that I am now back in the west. I wish I could have stayed a longer time in Russia. Another club worth a look is DudkiBar. 33 Sobinova st. I knew this bar / resto / club as one of the 2 main dance joints in Ivanovo and they have one in Yaroslavl. Getting there around 23h00 or a little later would be best bet and there will definitely be more girls than guys there and probably one of the least chances of encountering the local marginal type Russian men.
I can recommend writing to a few girls over mamba before going and maybe you can find a nice girl to keep you company, if you can speak Russian this should be very easy. If only English it's still possible with a little work. Getting them into bed on the first date is a big challenge and I read a funny comment here recently which was something like this,"If you want to fuck on the first date you need to keep your foot on the gas pedal until you crash and burn or get her into bed." That one made me laugh. Finding a semi-pro or pro over mamba could also be a good move.
Enjoy!
Suka Shalava
11-28-13, 15:34
"The Boeing passenger jetliner of the Tatarstan airline crashed in the evening of November 17, killing all on board, the 44 passengers, and six crew members.
The crash took the lives of 24-year-old Irek Minnikhanov, son of Tatarstan head Rustam Minnikhanov, and head of the Tatarstan department of the Federal Security Service Alexander Antonov."
If those details are interesting enough, does anybody care to comment on the video, that showed the plane's impact, at 90 degrees perpendicular to the ground? Who tries to land a plane like that?
Or the other detail of the story, that there was some problem with the aircraft on the previous flight it took, that was not repaired?
Well. Just saying.
DoctorOral
12-21-13, 11:47
Guys, any advise for remote places like Tomsk and Vladivostok. I need to go to both locations in early 2014
Stravinsky
12-21-13, 20:30
Guys, any advise for remote places like Tomsk and Vladivostok. I need to go to both locations in early 2014Have you tried doing a search for something like, oh I don't know... Vladivostok???
DoctorOral
01-05-14, 09:40
I have done this, of course, and not being an Idiot! There is no current info on these locations!
Have you tried doing a search for something like, oh I don't know. Vladivostok???
Stravinsky
01-06-14, 20:13
Doc, you've already been to Vladivostok, so what's all the drama about? Why don't you ask your good friend Nickc for some advice?
Member #4335
01-14-14, 19:26
I've been here for a while and have tried a lot of the girls on numerous websites. Plus side is I can speak Russian quite well. Will try to write the latest and previous reports on girls that I can remember. Here is one which is recent.
Date: 13/01/2014
Name: Katya
Source: totaldosug. Ru (the number connects to a dispatcher, they send different girls every time unless you request someone specific)
Age: late 20's
Face: 8/10
Body: slim
Boobs: perfect, not too small, not too big
FK: not allowed
DATY: yes, very pleasant
GFE: 9/10
BJ: capped, so not that enjoyable
FJ: 10/10 my perfect fuck so far. Two shots in a hour. First one lasted only 3-5 minutes. Second time around, I licked her pussy and fingered her until she came. Then she moved on top and rode me for 5 minutes. Then, I turned her back and fucked her doggy style. After some time, turned her again and fucked her in missionary until I came the second time.
WIR: yes, will call and try to request her again.
Anyone who wants the dispatcher's number, PM me.
Stravinsky
01-15-14, 19:45
Thanks for the info on Volgograd and totaldosug.ru.
Do you pay the prices advertised on the sight? Do you pay extra for outcall?
Member #4335
01-15-14, 20:35
Thanks for the info on Volgograd and totaldosug. Ru.
Do you pay the prices advertised on the sight? Do you pay extra for outcall?I've tried a few of them there. Mostly yes, I do pay the prices advertised. But some of them change prices when you meet them. Lucky for me, I've been here for 2 years and I can speak Russian quite well thus making it easier to communicate. I can share some more reliable contacts if you want them. Some of them I haven't tried but they have good reviews from the locals based on the comments.
Stravinsky
01-16-14, 20:16
I can share some more reliable contacts if you want them.See new Volgograd thread...
Member #4335
01-17-14, 20:18
I've been to various strip clubs several times and I must say that I enjoy strip clubs in Russia more than the ones in Europe. The girls are way hotter and sluttier and they sometimes also french kiss you if they like you for no extra cost. I've also seen in the price list, there is a 10k rubles price to let go the dancer of her shift. Does this mean if you pay the sum, she will go back with you and fuck? I'm sure some senior members here have already tried this. Please share if you do.
Thanks
It means that if you do anything with the girl that interrupts her shift you have to pay management 10k. If she's dancing on the table and your giving her money then your not interrupting her shift. If you invite her to sit down with you and have a friendly chat and she's not making the club money then you are interrupting her shift, and you will find a 10K addition to your bill to pay for the girl's time with you.
It does not mean that if you pay management 10K the girl must agree to go off with you.
The 10K fee could also be added by management if you just chat up the girl. If you ask her about going back to your place or "out" with you after her shift or complain about your ex to her, you could find the 10K fee for interrupting her work.
Buyer beware.
I've been to various strip clubs several times and I must say that I enjoy strip clubs in Russia more than the ones in Europe. The girls are way hotter and sluttier and they sometimes also french kiss you if they like you for no extra cost. I've also seen in the price list, there is a 10k rubles price to let go the dancer of her shift. Does this mean if you pay the sum, she will go back with you and fuck? I'm sure some senior members here have already tried this. Please share if you do.
Thanks
Member #4335
01-18-14, 17:03
It means that if you do anything with the girl that interrupts her shift you have to pay management 10k. If she's dancing on the table and your giving her money then your not interrupting her shift. If you invite her to sit down with you and have a friendly chat and she's not making the club money then you are interrupting her shift, and you will find a 10K addition to your bill to pay for the girl's time with you.
It does not mean that if you pay management 10K the girl must agree to go off with you.
The 10K fee could also be added by management if you just chat up the girl. If you ask her about going back to your place or "out" with you after her shift or complain about your ex to her, you could find the 10K fee for interrupting her work.
Buyer beware.It's written &1086; &1089; &1074; &1086; &1073; &1086; &1078; &1076; &1072; &1090; &1100; &1086; &1090; &1088; &1072; &1073; &1086; &1090; &1099; , and the direct translation means to be exempted from work. I thought it means you're taking her off work for several hours and she's yours. Haha.
Thanks for the clarification anyway.
Stravinsky
01-18-14, 20:32
.... and the direct translation means to be exempted from work. I thought it means you're taking her off work for several hours and she's yours. Haha.Most strip clubs have an option on the "Crazy Menu" for an "Увольнение", which means dismissed or excused, and there is a price for this. Which is one of the things I love about Russian strip clubs, everything is available--for a price.
If you buy the увольнениe, then the club will excuse the girl from work for the rest of the night and you can take her out with you. But this fee is only what you pay the club to excuse the girl. You still need to negotiate with the girl for her price, and that's in addition to what you pay to the club.
The price of 10,000 руб. is actually not too bad. Some clubs in Moscow can charge 15,000 or 20,000.
Member #4335
01-18-14, 20:50
Most strip clubs have an option on the "Crazy Menu" for an "&1059; &1074; &1086; &1083; &1100; &1085; &1077; &1085; &1080; &1077;", which means dismissed or excused, and there is a price for this. Which is one of the things I love about Russian strip clubs, everything is available-for a price.
If you buy the &1091; &1074; &1086; &1083; &1100; &1085; &1077; &1085; &1080; e, then the club will excuse the girl from work for the rest of the night and you can take her out with you. But this fee is only what you pay the club to excuse the girl. You still need to negotiate with the girl for her price, and that's in addition to what you pay to the club.
The price of 10, 000 &1088; &1091; &1073; . Is actually not too bad. Some clubs in Moscow can charge 15, 000 or 20, 000.Thought so. Sounds like a lot of work and money. I'll pass. Haha.
Member #4335
01-31-14, 18:50
To Long Weekender who PM-ed me asking for tips on visiting Novosibirsk, please clear your inbox as it's full and I can't send you any new messages.
Lurkingdog
02-01-14, 06:03
Dear Friends. I just finished RTFF over the past several years but didn't see much on Kazan. I will be there May. Any suggestions?
LD
Member #4335
02-01-14, 12:28
Dear Friends. I just finished RTFF over the past several years but didn't see much on Kazan. I will be there May. Any suggestions?
LDIf you can speak Russian or read any Cyrillic, here are a list of girls who received good reviews from some of the locals. You can change the website's language to English but bear in mind that doesn't mean the girl can speak any English at all.
http://www.rusdosug.com/search.php?vv%5B1%5D=on&vv%5B2%5D=on&vv%5B13%5D=on&vv%5B4%5D=on&vv%5B11%5D=on&vv%5B40%5D=on&vv%5B12%5D=on&vv%5B10%5D=on&vv%5B44%5D=on&vv%5B5%5D=on&vv%5B33%5D=on&vv%5B45%5D=on&vv%5B41%5D=on&vv%5B42%5D=on&vv%5B43%5D=on&vv%5B25%5D=on&vv%5B24%5D=on&vv%5B7%5D=on&vv%5B26%5D=on&vv%5B29%5D=on&vv%5B28%5D=on&vv%5B8%5D=on&vv%5B38%5D=on&vv%5B17%5D=on&vv%5B21%5D=on&vv%5B19%5D=on&vv%5B23%5D=on&vv%5B20%5D=on&vv%5B22%5D=on&vv%5B18%5D=on&vv%5B39%5D=on&vv%5B30%5D=on&vv%5B3%5D=on&vv%5B36%5D=on&vv%5B35%5D=on&vv%5B9%5D=on&vv%5B34%5D=on&vv%5B14%5D=on&vv%5B27%5D=on&vv%5B37%5D=on&vv%5B16%5D=on&vv%5B15%5D=on&vv%5B6%5D=on&vv%5B32%5D=on&vv%5B31%5D=on&are=&type=0&a1=&a2=&b1=&b2=&h1=&h2=&w1=&w2=&p11=&p12=&p21=&p22=&pn1=&pn2=&t=0&msgs=&st=&chks=1&tg=0&mg=0&news=0&check=&pon=0&nation=0&hc=0&ht=0&ws1=&ws2=&fs1=&fs2=&Search. X=56&Search. Why=7&lng=0&lat=0&cityid=9
Lurkingdog
02-01-14, 16:36
[QUOTE=HDanial; 1526526]If you can speak Russian or read any Cyrillic, here are a list of girls who received good reviews from some of the locals. You can change the website's language to English but bear in mind that doesn't mean the girl can speak any English at all.
http://www.rusdosug.com/search.php?vv
HDanial. Thanks for the response. I'll spend a little time researching this and will definitely submit FR if anything pans out. My Russian if pretty weak but I guess I have a couple of months to "bone" up, as it were.
LD
George 6969
02-02-14, 21:53
Checked the strip club in the Hotel Novosibirsk last week, called the Vintage club.
500 RUR entrance also for hotel guests. A girl will approach you and asking for a drink. 1000 RUR and than offering a private dance for another 1000 RUR lasting 6 minutes. My question, if the girl will come with you upstairs later, was denied. So a place to loose money if you are not a strip club liker and not a real hunting ground.
Due to the cold weather no change to see otheer places.
Dear Friends. I just finished RTFF over the past several years but didn't see much on Kazan. I will be there May. Any suggestions?I have not been to Kazan, but I know that it is the capital of Tatarstan. I have slept with 10-15 girls in various locations who were 50-100% Tatar ancestry. Many of them have been among the most beautiful girls I have ever slept with. Looks are a bit like what French and Italian girls wished they looked like. Many of them also had very difficult temperaments, an inclination towards playing games, being coquette etc. Perhaps this is partly because I tend to develop a crush on them. But they have also given me wild, passionate, no holes barred sex, and man are they beautiful. Only uncertainty is that I am not sure whether they have been of Kazan Tatar ancestry or Crimean Tatar ancestry, or how different the two groups look.
Lurkingdog
02-15-14, 00:13
I have not been to Kazan, but I know that it is the capital of Tatarstan. I have slept with 10-15 girls in various locations who were 50-100% Tatar ancestry. Many of them have been among the most beautiful girls I have ever slept with. Looks are a bit like what French and Italian girls wished they looked like. Many of them also had very difficult temperaments, an inclination towards playing games, being coquette etc. Perhaps this is partly because I tend to develop a crush on them. But they have also given me wild, passionate, no holes barred sex, and man are they beautiful. Only uncertainty is that I am not sure whether they have been of Kazan Tatar ancestry or Crimean Tatar ancestry, or how different the two groups look.Cucumber. Thanks for your comments. Were these tatarettes freebees or was it p4p? Love to learn your secrets / techniques if you're willing to share.
LD
Airplane Capta
03-08-14, 09:30
Recently have been to Vladivostok. And the center bar Mumi troll really seems to be the handout spot for the girls and boys. I have not figured out if it is any freebie / P4P action there though. Can anyone confirm how the market works there, and if there is alternatives to this bar.
I called a nice girl from Vladsex. Great slim body and very energetic. Small tits. After the session she asked if I wanted massage, I said no another blowjob. Very good, she asked for 1000 mor (3000 basic) for BBBJ. Came massivly down her throat and she was so pissed that she wanted to throw me out of her dirty domicil naked.
I need to find girls I can take home. I haave the sleazy girl apartments where you feel dirty not from the sex but from the rats and cats and flees running under the bed.
Not much advise here so for. Katja from vladsex is 9841893325. Google number to find profile.
Cucumber. Thanks for your comments. Were these tatarettes freebees or was it p4p? Love to learn your secrets / techniques if you're willing to share. LDI am afraid there are no specific tricks to share. They have been pros. I have found them in many different ways, in saunas, ads in the paper, salons etc. There was also a civilian, one of the most beautiful girls I have ever met, but I did not manage to bed her. She was definitely Crimean Tatar, the others perhaps more likely Tatarstan Tatar, though I don't really know that for sure. Note that they have been many different locations, mostly outside Tatarstan and in many cases outside Russia. For example, across Central Asia there is quite a Tatar diaspora. Often they have been not pure Tatar, but mixed with Russian. 25-75. I think that mix produces some of the most beautiful women in the world.
There may be some parallels with certain Kazakh groups. Kazakh women in general are ok but not that incredible, IMHO. But the Kazakhs from up north, nearer the Russian border often have an incredible mixed Euro-Asian look, and also include some of the most beautiful women on earth: slender, long legs, firm (small) breasts, soft straight hair, soft pale skin, sometimes with freckles or blue eyes and very, very, very feminine.
Lovetoomeet
05-27-14, 13:29
Hi,
I have been searching on Rusdosug and similar sites for any good girls to meet up with in Ekaterinburg. It seems there may be a lot of fakes on these sites, which I know is usual!
Does anyone on here have any good recommendations for pretty girls to meet with during my stay?
Price is not too much of an issue.
Thanks in advance for any help.
LTM
Try Yoshkar-Ola. It's an overnight train ride or a 1-1/2 hour plane ride from Moscow. Women outnumber men there, there is little good work, and a lot of women are dying to get out, so they will do almost anything for the hope of leaving. I have gotten numerous freebies there.I used to go to Yoshkar Ola two or three times a year back in 2001-2005. I had a young Russian girlfriend from there, and still managed to date students from a university there. Lots of women there, and with the value of the ruble now, bound to be even better for the punter than when I was there.
Besides Moscow and St. Pete, which city do you recommend for a Russia first-timer?
Specifically, I want somewhere not as hectic or expensive as Moscow, with a surplus of quality college-aged girls potentially interested in leaving Russia.
I was thinking about one of these cities, going eastward: Nizhny-Novgorod, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, Irkutsk or Yakutsk.
I don't care about mileage or distance from Moscow because I will be mostly traveling by train, on the cheap, saving the money for the really important stuff--the girls. So I want your recommendations to focus exclusively on the likelihood of finding college-aged non-pros, no matter how far or un-Westernized the place may appear.
P.S. I will only speak phrasebook Russian, so the girls I meet shouldn't expect fluency. It will be that plus a combination of English, Spanish, French and German.
Stravinsky
01-13-15, 20:04
P.S. I will only speak phrasebook Russian, so the girls I meet shouldn't expect fluency. And neither should you...
Putologist
01-14-15, 11:22
Besides Moscow and St. Pete, which city do you recommend for a Russia first-timer?.So you want to try some game (which is different than the western game BTW) instead of paying? With bad or no Russian this would be a difficult task, but not impossible.
For a Russia first-timer I would remove Irkutsk or Yakutsk from the list and add Samara+Kazan.
Good luck!
So you want to try some game (which is different than the western game BTW) instead of paying? With bad or no Russian this would be a difficult task, but not impossible.
For a Russia first-timer I would remove Irkutsk or Yakutsk from the list and add Samara+Kazan.Yes, the paying scene is all fine for a day or two but I think I would gain more of a cultural insight by talking to the girls and trying some game. Even with basic language skills, I think gaming in Russian would be an impossible task, so my game will have to be in English + ad-hoc sign language + a combination of the other European languages I know.
What did you like about Samara and Kazan?
Putologist
01-15-15, 06:10
Yes, the paying scene is all fine for a day or two but I think I would gain more of a cultural insight by talking to the girls and trying some game. Even with basic language skills, I think gaming in Russian would be an impossible task, so my game will have to be in English + ad-hoc sign language + a combination of the other European languages I know.
What did you like about Samara and Kazan?Well, if you are travelling by train, think about the logistics: Nizhny-Novgorod, Yekaterinburg, Kazan, Samara and even Ufa, are not that far from each other. Remember that you have to come to Moscow to take your flight back to your country.
But if you put remote cities like Irkutsk or Yakutsk, the things become more complicated. By plane that would be relatively more comfortable.
In Samara I saw many European looking women, very open people. I definitively will come back to Samara this year.
Fist I did want to go to Kazan (I heard about many muslin women living there etc. Which would make the game more complicated), but anyway I decided to make a stop on my way to East. Well, I was quite surprised with the Tartar women, they are more Asian style, but also pretty imo, and not as closed as I thought before.
Well, if you are travelling by train, think about the logistics: Nizhny-Novgorod, Yekaterinburg, Kazan, Samara and even Ufa, are not that far from each other. Remember that you have to come to Moscow to take your flight back to your country.
But if you put remote cities like Irkutsk or Yakutsk, the things become more complicated. By plane that would be relatively more comfortable.
In Samara I saw many European looking women, very open people. I definitively will come back to Samara this year.
Fist I did want to go to Kazan (I heard about many muslin women living there etc. Which would make the game more complicated), but anyway I decided to make a stop on my way to East. Well, I was quite surprised with the Tartar women, they are more Asian style, but also pretty imo, and not as closed as I thought before.That sounds appealing!
What is your opinion on the other cities I usually see mentioned, like Rostov-on-Don, Sochi, Omsk, Krasnodar, Krasnoyarsk, Perm, etc. Are any of these worth visiting?
Putologist
01-15-15, 22:40
That sounds appealing!
What is your opinion on the other cities I usually see mentioned, like Rostov-on-Don, Sochi, Omsk, Krasnodar, Krasnoyarsk, Perm, etc. Are any of these worth visiting?Rostov and Sochi are south, I thought you would be going eastwards. Both nice, foreigner friendly. I will PM you some infos.
The other 4 you mentioned I don't know yet, never have been there. Have you checked them on Mamba / VK? You can start making the contacts even before you go there. I also want to visit Perm as well one day.
I am going to visit Novosibirsk in April. Any recommendation for strip clubs and escorts?
Hey guys,
Visiting Krasnodar in 2 weeks. Appreciate any guidance on where to find escorts or websites that I can search.
Thanks a ton.
Suka Shalava
06-17-15, 21:49
Would it really matter all that much if the whole situation was different or better?
Probably not. Such as it was, anyone who's been there, and is honest about it, will tell ya that, in spite of what's happened or will, nothing would be better for the West than Russia leading Europe. If changes like, no smoking allowed in cafe's, and only wine with meals and no other alcohol served on international Aeroflot flights, do not tell you which way the wind is blowing, then you're just missing the point.
Because if you can just see past all the bullshit here, and understand that all of us have a chance to contribute, then there's no reason to hesitate. I've emphasized repeatedly that generosity and good will can go a long way, as long as you respect their customs and you keep your nose where it belongs. You're selling short by pinching kopeks with these ladies.
I realize that everybody can't afford to splurge all the time, but if you know what's good for you, that idea should be your true focus. Time and again, the lessons have been laid out here, if you simply trust the masters and apply the science. Don't take my word for it, figure it out on your own. There should be no room left for doubt that second level cities are brimming with quality companionship, from SVX, OVB, KZN, VOG, GOJ, RoV, CEK, UFA, to OMS, it's all happening, still. Packing two thirds of your luggage with just presents doesn't hurt either. Modesty and humor goes a long way. So does some talent. Being creative doesn't hurt either.
I went for 6 months in the US, without even attempting to get laid, and I lost out on nothing. By the third week in the provinces, I had to turn away offers, though I'll admit that the damn blood pressure and diabetes meds take a huge toll on my ability to finish what I get started. Nobody's fault but mine.
All I'm really trying to say, is that if you can, there remains an unlimited opportunity to work as hard as you can at home, and turn that investment in yourself into an investment in friendships in the motherland. If you hang in there, eventually it all pays great dividends. The hassles of traveling can be a burden, so be smart and try to max out your playtime. With the current forex advantages, you really can't lose.
I proud to say that my most recent excursion was consecutive CIS adventure number 30, with no other mongering destinations to break up that streak. What with ladies like Lera, Lida, Dasha, Masha, and Natasha, I'd gladly return another thirty times. Their passion does not diminish, if you stoke it. But you have to go for it, take the path less traveled. The greatest country on earth.
Would it really matter all that much if the whole situation was different or better?
Probably not. Such as it was, anyone who's been there, and is honest about it, will tell ya that, in spite of what's happened or will, nothing would be better for the West than Russia leading Europe. If changes like, no smoking allowed in cafe's, and only wine with meals and no other alcohol served on international Aeroflot flights, do not tell you which way the wind is blowing, then you're just missing the point.
Because if you can just see past all the bullshit here, and understand that all of us have a chance to contribute, then there's no reason to hesitate. I've emphasized repeatedly that generosity and good will can go a long way, as long as you respect their customs and you keep your nose where it belongs. You're selling short by pinching kopeks with these ladies.
I realize that everybody can't afford to splurge all the time, but if you know what's good for you, that idea should be your true focus. Time and again, the lessons have been laid out here, if you simply trust the masters and apply the science. Don't take my word for it, figure it out on your own. There should be no room left for doubt that second level cities are brimming with quality companionship, from SVX, OVB, KZN, VOG, GOJ, RoV, CEK, UFA, to OMS, it's all happening, still. Packing two thirds of your luggage with just presents doesn't hurt either. Modesty and humor goes a long way. So does some talent. Being creative doesn't hurt either.Some of the more seasoned veterans have advised me that you can get eviscerated at the hands of the local girls when they are in their element and around their peers. From what I was told, the privacy and anonymity of the big city, is the best place to have a fighting chance. I have spent sooo much time in small towns in the USA, and I can verify this observation (if all things are equal between the 2 countries).
Also, let me ask, what "province" are you talking about in the USA? I have lived here my whole life, and by my observations (taken as a whole), this is one the of the most vicious, contentious, mean-spirited countries on earth, although most are very hesitant to say things like that above a whisper. Of course, there are a handful of countries that are worse. But only a handful:
Suka Shalava
06-18-15, 10:00
Some of the more seasoned veterans have advised me that you can get eviscerated at the hands of the local girls when they are in their element and around their peers.
(B) From what I was told, the privacy and anonymity of the big city, is the best place to have a fighting chance.
I have spent sooo much time in small towns in the USA, and I can verify this observation (if all things are equal between the 2 countries).
(A) Also, let me ask, what "province" are you talking about in the USA?
I have lived here my whole life, and by my observations (taken as a whole), this is one the of the most vicious, contentious, mean-spirited countries on earth, although most are very hesitant to say things like that above a whisper.
Of course, there are a handful of countries that are worse. But only a handful:
I'm sorry sir, but you are either in far too much of a hurry, or experiencing a critical failure in comprehending my 'read-between-the-lines' style-speak. The questions you have put forth indicate that you have completely mis-interpreted the primary points in my post. Sorry to say, but it's more likely, and for all we know, that you are not even a monger but a semi-obvious plant from any number of our monitoring uncles, cleverly fish-baiting, effectively utilizing an acting method to opaquely appear hopefully clueless, to affect either some sympathy or disdain.
Of course, if you REALLY read between the lines, you will understand that I was blindly referring to the completely fucked political stand-off that has developed, and only seems to be getting worse, with no end in sight other than a Terminator scenario of mutually assured destruction. What the hell does Vladomirovich actually want? I asked many natives, and they just don't know. He's your riddle-wrapped-in-an-enigma, as they say. Love him or hate him, but please respect him. God help us all, because there seems to be nobody on the other side capable of effectively reaching him to de-escalate this mess. Certainly there's no one in the 2016 race on either side who can, or is even interested, to find a peaceful solution. If we're honest, it's probably hopeless, we're all just doomed. What a waste, what a shame. We really fucked it up. You better hurry up, get it while you can. You never know when that last train's a coming.
On the slimmest chance that you are genuinely in need of some direction, and for the amusement of the membership, we'll spin you around a bit and hopefully get you sorted out, though I doubt any of this is real.
(A) The provinces is strictly a CIS term. Perhaps if I had used the term Oblast? A geographical lesson of the glorious motherland will reveal there are 46 of them. America, as you know, has states. Naturally, I reside in one of the 50. In the context in which I was speaking, I was merely comparing what we here refer to as our, (in this case) a 6 month long self-imposed-in-between-adventures-CIS-exile-period-of-abstinence, with a very short period of time abroad.
There is though, an exception to this. 9 years ago, I had the fortune to meet Olga at my local Blockbuster, an authentic siberian-born blondinka by way of Berlin. Though beset by enough crippling psychological issues too serious to allow her to successfully adapt here, I still had the pleasure to spend a few months sponsor-tearing that ass up, before eventually putting her on a flight home to her mama, with some black dude's bun in her oven. Yes, there are Russian ladies here in America, and if you get really lucky, you might meet one, and get some. Hell, I've run into at least a few in the elevator in my own building.
(B) Please familiarize yourself with Airport Codes, as that is the not-in-population-order list I included. Second level cities is a reference to the ten metropolitan provincial capitals with +1 million inhabitants, which obviously, as the term 'second' implies, does NOT include the mega-metropolies of Moskva or S Pitr. Evisceration and anonymity be damned! Leave your fears at the doors. Hesitation, is what will kill you!
In other words, Mr. Shaw, just forget about small towns.
P.S. If you are my uncle, I sincerely meant no dis-respect to your authority. You have a job to do. If I may be of assistance in your efforts to nab uber bad guys, of which I am not one as I always abide by all rules, both foreign and domestic, I gladly offer my service.
Suka Shalava
06-18-15, 13:40
I must apologize for my carelessness, omitting to mention, that if you are so casual or naive to presume that the majority of what you read here is accurate, then I need to sell you a lot of real estate.
Veterans may have assumed such status in your eyes, for no other reason than because they have extra time to purge their dreams and fantasies on these noble hallowed pages. The only advice worth anything, is to go figure it out on your own. If you put forth the effort, you will no doubt learn, that there is no substitute for experience. The best you can hope for from the internet, is to pick up a few bits and pieces.
On that sour note, may I please do a 180 and interest the membership in a review of the June fruit offerings of my local bazaar? The pears are quite exquisite at the moment, and as I recall, the same holds true in the fall. But nothing compares to the tomato variety that I believe is called the 'big uglies' here at home. Once you cut a wide and deep gaping hole out of the center, to remove the stem scar, the flesh that remains is so incredibly delicious, it is practically a meal in itself. A sprinkle of salt, and a measly piece of bread and cheese, and you've reached nirvana.
Only Natasha's tangy red muffin can put a bigger smile on my puss.
And before anyone else offers up their own political theories in response to my pathetic amateur analysis, please take a look at today's Reuters article which provides a most interesting view offered up by Russia's once richest oligarch, none other than defunct Yukos oil-empire owner, M. Khodorkhovsky. Jailed but since pardoned, and momentarily out of reach in Switzerland, he calls the entire confrontation scenario with the West not much more than an artificial distraction, to create an enemy in the Russian public's view, in order to maintain the status quo at home and in doing so, prevent any real changes in their system's balance of power. Hmmm...if anyone would know, he might.
Even if true, I still maintain that as mongers, it is our duty to fully invest in the future of Russia, by doing all we can today to support their people and businesses. They aren't communists, after all.
...Sorry to say, but it's more likely, and for all we know, that you are not even a monger but a semi-obvious plant from any number of our monitoring uncles, cleverly fish-baiting, effectively utilizing an acting method to opaquely appear hopefully clueless, to affect either some sympathy or disdain.
On the slimmest chance that you are genuinely in need of some direction, and for the amusement of the membership, we'll spin you around a bit and hopefully get you sorted out, though I doubt any of this is real.
P.S. If you are my uncle, I sincerely meant no dis-respect to your authority. You have a job to do. If I may be of assistance in your efforts to nab uber bad guys, of which I am not one as I always abide by all rules, both foreign and domestic, I gladly offer my service.I thought you were referencing airport codes in the first place. That's how I saw you were referencing places like Yekaterinburg, but I couldn't get the others you mentioned off of Wikipedia. It's OK because I got the idea that you were talking about small towns.
I AM still a newbie on this board, and I have not yet taken my first trip to Russia. That will be in July. So yeah, using the term "oblast" actually does help more.
BUT more importantly, I want to address your hypothesis of my character. Quite frankly, you might need to review the prescriptions offered by any medical professionals you have may have consulted. I suggest you bring in your tin foil hat to be re-aligned during that same visit as well.
Just a little research into the nature of my previous posts will clearly reveal the sincerity of my character.
And before anyone else offers up their own political theories in response to my pathetic amateur analysis, please take a look at today's Reuters article which provides a most interesting view offered up by Russia's once richest oligarch, none other than defunct Yukos oil-empire owner, M. Khodorkhovsky. Jailed but since pardoned, and momentarily out of reach in Switzerland, he calls the entire confrontation scenario with the West not much more than an artificial distraction, to create an enemy in the Russian public's view, in order to maintain the status quo at home and in doing so, prevent any real changes in their system's balance of power. Hmmm...if anyone would know, he might.
Even if true, I still maintain that as mongers, it is our duty to fully invest in the future of Russia, by doing all we can today to support their people and businesses. They aren't communists, after all.Hear, hear!! Well put.
And before anyone else offers up their own political theories in response to my pathetic amateur analysis, please take a look at today's Reuters article which provides a most interesting view offered up by Russia's once richest oligarch, none other than defunct Yukos oil-empire owner, M. Khodorkhovsky. Jailed but since pardoned, and momentarily out of reach in Switzerland, he calls the entire confrontation scenario with the West not much more than an artificial distraction, to create an enemy in the Russian public's view, in order to maintain the status quo at home and in doing so, prevent any real changes in their system's balance of power. Hmmm...if anyone would know, he might.
Even if true, I still maintain that as mongers, it is our duty to fully invest in the future of Russia, by doing all we can today to support their people and businesses. They aren't communists, after all.I personally have no doubt that Shawman is real. He wants to experience a world he has read so much about.
I don't post much here anymore except the occasional observations and suggestion about how to make life easier. I certainly don't share my exploits. What's the point? I have basically shared all of my "game. ".
I am sad that 10 weeks have passed in Moscow and I will only be here for 3 more weeks. What a great city this is and what spectacular women it has. Many of the men are pretty cool, too, if you get to know them. They can also be a good resource. Unfortunately, most of the local men I know are friends with my girlfriend. What a shame.
But as Suka Shalava proposed, and Jake seconded, Russia is still a place of adventure, and personally I don't mind the increased political tension. A more isolated and closed Russia is certainly a more fun Russia.
I personally have no doubt that Shawman is real. He wants to experience a world he has read so much about.
I am sad that 10 weeks have passed in Moscow and I will only be here for 3 more weeks. And I wish you were there a little longer too, I would have loved to hang out with ya. You may still technically be there by the time I am, but you will be super close to departure, so you will have 13 weeks worth of your life you have to pack back up into suitcases, and lots of loving to get in with your GF before you head out hehe LOL.
DoctorOral
11-09-15, 08:53
Going to sochi in December. Any valid info on where and how and what?
Thank you, cheers. DocOral.
WingsOfFire
11-20-15, 19:00
Hi seniors,
This is my first post.
Been excited to read all about Moscow but would be spending couple of weeks in Yekaterinburg. Other than few adv of escort agencies. Erotic massage and mongering scene looks dim. God help me with winters.
Any guidance by senior mongers.
Thanks in advance and anticipation.
Hi seniors,
...Been excited to read all about Moscow but would be spending couple of weeks in Yekaterinburg. Other than few adv of escort agencies. Erotic massage and mongering scene looks dim. God help me with winters.
I am afraid I have never been to Ekaterinburg, but I have been to a lot of other cities in Russia. Ekaterinburg is one of the biggest cities in Russia, and I am sure there must be a great scene there. Sometimes it can be difficult to get a foothold, but having a couple of weeks is perfect for doing so because you have time for lots of trial and error. If at some point it seems dark and lonely and hopeless (as provincial Russia sometimes does, especially this time of year), you have to discipline yourself and keep on trying new options. Beneath the surface and behind the concrete there will be rich pickings. Prices should be lower than the capitals and girls should be more awed by foreigners. Which they are certainly not in the capitals. The weak rouble will also help.
I did a quick search and found a whole bunch of websites with girls in Ekaterinburg:
http://city-sex.in/
http://www.ekasex.ru/
http://ekaxxx.com/
http://prostitutki-ekaterinburga.me/
http://dosug66.com/
http://ekaterinburg.intim66.com/
http://ekaterinburg.otsosme.com/
http://kisski.me/catalog/
http://4kiss.ru/page10.html
http://individualki-ekaterinburga.ru/
http://intim-escort.com/
http://girls96.ru/
http://eburgdosug.com/
I have no idea about the reliability of each site, but clearly there is a considerable scene. If you don't speak Russian you could look at them with Google automatic translation turned on. For the ads this should work pretty well, it isn't exactly Shakespeare after all. Personally I would try a few interesting ads, but above all aim to identify the salons among them. Once you get into a nice salon you can pick and choose, do three girls in a row or a threesome, try to talk the dispetcher / administratorsha into sleeping with you if she is sexy etc etc. Or alternatively, via one girl get into a network of girls (co-students, friends, neighbours, younger sisters.).
You could also try Mamba for Ekaterinburg.
Anytime you take a taxi, ask the driver to help you. Even just take a taxi in order to get help. At some point you may find a driver who is keen and helpful and speaks some English, who can make calls for you etc. If you pay him some extra money. Be very explicit and clear about the deal, so that he doesn't suddenly start demanding ridiculous amounts for detours.
Personally I would always make sure to carry many hundred extra dollars on me for emergencies. Just in case you ever get into trouble, you may be able to bribe your way out (not that I condone the evil of corruption Or you may get into a very different type of emergency, three 10's lined up asking for big money but worth it, an opportunity of a lifetime.
Now, you owe a serious, detailed field report!
This board has been pretty useless for Irkutsk, so in the interests of putting down something useful I'll mention that Mamba worked for me. Got a couple of hits early on and was quickly successful with a 23 yo with long dark hair, Alexandra. Very quickly got down to the details, 5000 are at my hotel at 7 the next day.
Met her outside my hotel and thought I may freeze to death before she got there and I was all ready to turn her away if it was a bait and switch, to my surprise she looked great. Shorter then I expected but very cute and upon shedding our clothes I saw that she is tiny around the waist, not an ounce of fat on her. In the light she looked younger then 23 too.
In bed she was a little Dynamo. Not just a tiny little pussy but also said she wanted anal as well. Can't complain about that. In the end I wasn't sure how long is booked her for and she ended up staying till nearly 1 in the afternoon the next day.
Now a couple of thing to finish off. She told me that I could pass her details on to "friends" and because you are my friends today I may be willing to pass her number and maybe a pic to other members who are actually in or coming to town, and even then, if you have never made a useful contribution on any of these boards don't even bother to pm me.
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Alexandra does not speak a word of English, but don't let that discourage you because I don't speak a word of Russian. Just become very adept at using google Translate as I have done and she will do the same.
Nearly finished my research on Kaliningrad and now working on the other 2 cities. Anyone here with updated intel on the mongering scene in the 3 cities?
I read back to 2014 but nothing new or updated.
Latest reliable site. Sites for quality escorts at reasonable non western prices?
Thanks to Cucumber, found this site which looks very promising http://eburgdosug.com/ ??
Thanks in advance.
Nearly finished my research on Kaliningrad and now working on the other 2 cities. Anyone here with updated intel on the mongering scene in the 3 cities?
I read back to 2014 but nothing new or updated.
Latest reliable site. Sites for quality escorts at reasonable non western prices?
Thanks to Cucumber, found this site which looks very promising http://eburgdosug.com/ ??
Thanks in advance.Lovely weather in http://www.timeanddate.com/weather/russia/novosibirsk.
Weather in Novosibirsk, Russia.
Now.
-7 °C Tuesday.
Evening.
-15 °C.
It is almost 5 years ago I was in Murmansk. Can someone please give us update from Murmansk?
Any strip clubs, escorte team or good new places to pick up?
I will be visiting Niznhy Novogrod in a few weeks and I was hoping to get some information from esteemed members of this forum who have been there lately and can share any advice / input as to where to go or what is good there?
I have checked out a few places strip joints through their websites but I fear they are rip off joints.
- http://russtriptease.ru/.
- http://www.33strip.ru/.
Also, I found this one site nn-dosug.com. Has anyone here tried this site's providers?
Any input would be welcome!
Thanks.
Jonathan Pine
04-11-16, 20:22
The industrial city in the Ural region has the not so great honor of being the subject of a new book publish in English recently. "Putin Country, journey to real Russia. ".
From punting standpoint I would not recommend this city. Far too big to navigate, more than a million people, lots of rough looking men, as the major industry in the city is steel making which employs lot of men.
In short, Chelyabinsk is the opposite of Ivanovo. Although I didn't see many potential brides in Ivanovo, at least the men seem gentler and less threatening there. In Chelyabinsk not only men seem rough looking, there are many migrant men from Central Asia or Caucasus. Even the local Slavic Russians think these migrant Muslim dudes are rough.
Did venture to a sauna where the mamasan could order escorts for their clients. A minivan came, out came 4 girls, none of them score more than a 5, but they only cost 2500 rubles and if you're drunk, one could do worse.
My impression of the girls in the city is that they are also less genteel and simple than their sisters in the Golden Ring. Chelyabinsk is a much larger city, blue collar in character which they are very proud of. Guys look rough and women look slutty.
Would not recommend the city but at least the Vidgof hotel is excellent. Highly recommend it. Stayed there a few times and the best looking also happened to be best English speaking front desk girl whom I saw the first time there left town for the US of A. I was told later on as I didn't see here again in my subsequent stays.
The breakfast buffet at the hotel had several cute 18 year old girls (or 17, not sure) working the first time I stayed there. The quality of the buffet girls also got worse and worse when I stayed there later times.
Therefore I go back to my points in previous posts that Russia is no longer a good mongering destination if one purely comes for sex. The best looking Russian girls (make no mistake, they are the ones the most motivated to learn English as they know they will be able to fetch highest market value in the West) already left Russia or are in the process of doing so.
Some might want to practice English with you but they will not do more with you. I think someone also posted the same point on the forum. That the girls are interested in foreigners only in an intellectual kind of way.
Air pollution is ghastly in this city.
Jonathan Pine
04-11-16, 20:41
Now I just wrote several posts about the women situation in Russia, none of them is flattering. Let me provide you with the perspective from 2005 in Vladivostok when I didn't have the Russian skills, money, sophistication, style. That I have now.
I was just some dumb foreign ass without speaking a word of Russian in Russia. As I fondly remember there were 8 girls working at the front desk in Hyundai hotel when I stayed there. All of them beautiful. All of them eyed me as if I was prince William. I was anything but.
The difference between Russia now and 10 years ago was that the average salary back then was a small fraction of what it is now. Now they're still not rich, but relatively comfortable. Back than it was their survival at stake. Not only were they only making several thousand rubles a month, they were lucky if they were paid at all. And the best jobs available in a city of half a million was to work at the front desk for a Korean hotel. It's a 5 star hotel I might add.
Now I bet you will not see this in any city in Russia where the best looking and English speaking girls see working as receptionists at hotels as a good job. Back than even the hotel maid was a hot young blond who wanted to meet me the eligible foreign douche. Now all the hotel maids are middle aged.
But the city and Russia was dangerous back then. Hotel and night club, even a prodykti had armed guards. Drunks were everywhere on the streets which is not the case in Russia now.
It was much easier to get laid back then but one was also more likely to get mugged or killed in Russia.
Bring back the good old times!
Jonathan Pine
04-11-16, 21:43
Went to Shuya, Ivanovo, population 50000 and Zlatoust, Chelyabinsk, population 150,000.
Can't say about other cities sized 50,000, but Shuya is depressing. Yes you might be the only foreign man in town, or even the most eligible man in town, but all the good looking young girls, or all young girls have left town for provincial center or ST. Pete to study at universities. So you still can't do shit there. There are simply no universities in towns this size which means there are simply no young girls.
Zlatoust or cities at 150,000 are a bit different, but in general the same. As there are still no universities, except tiny branches of the oblast state university, which also means young people, especially shkola graduates leave town for provincial center to study. Or leave the oblast all together for Moscow or St Pete.
So in principle while I agree to take the road less traveled, but it's pointless to travel to places where not even girls want travel. We need to take the road where young girls travel! We need to travel with them together!
Now we know they travel to provincial centers, Moscow, St. Pete or the West. So the question is what do we now. Some of us have the basic Russian skills to take the road less traveled in Russia, but the girls have legs, too. They travel to places where most traveled. More so than men. And it's not just in Russia. Same in rural US and Canada. Girls leave for big cities more so than men.
Of course my entire analysis is based on young women, 18-22, or to 25 range. So for some of you guys that target more mature ladies, say 35,40 and above, the motherland is still full of lonely single mothers and divorced women.
And all my assumptions is based on at least having functioning Russian language skills. Without language skills in Russia, one's bet best is simply go to Night Flight. Or better yet, stay home.
Jonathan Pine
04-11-16, 22:20
Went to a strip joint in town center, on Tsvlinga close to Lenin Prospekt. Granted it was on a Sunday night which traditionally is a bit slow. But the entire time there were only my friend and I. So all the girls came bugging us to buy them drinks which I thought was a scheme of the club to get the customers to spend money one way or another.
The girls did ask us for permission if they could order drinks. And the shooter girl did confirm with my friend and I every time the girls ordered drinks. So I wouldn't say it was a rip off. But it was also very hard to refuse them. They were very aggressive. There were not a single other client that night other than us. The girls and the club had to make a living. So what the hell.
Girls were about 20 years old. 6-8 range. Private dance was 1000 rubles. Way too high if the exchange rate was 32, but at 65-70 what the hell. The general rule was no touching pizda. But I told the girls that was the only way that I'd agree to a private dance. They agreed. I guess it was the economic crisis. I also asked the girls about take out, it was 12,000. But of course it was way too expensive looking for sex this way.
Go to a sauna and ask the mamasan to order girls if sex is what you want, don't go to a strip joint. But the strippers are hotter.
And it was interesting that the business was so slow. Maybe the crisis really does have an impact.
So perhaps sponsoring can be the way to go now. Got to think up some strategies now.
Jonathan Pine
04-11-16, 22:41
All large provincial centers, all over 1 million population. All very cold in winter. Omsk is the poorest among them. Yekateringburg has many migrants from Central Asia and Kavkas. Didn't get the impression that people were very friendly here. The city is so big that for a punting perspective I wouldn't advice it.
Novosibirsk seems kindler, and some people have the distinctive Mongolian or Kazakh features. City too big to get around.
Krasnoyarsk is the richest due to enormous natural resources. Strangely the best hotel in town is average at best. Even all the other large yet poorer cities of similar size have better and bigger hotels.
Anyways, Krasnoyarsk feels a bit like Dubai in snow, oh yeah they're loaded now. So don't think sponsoring will work very well there.
Well, there I was. From Moscow to Ural to Siberia to Vladivostok. What a journey. Still searching for the promised land, if it's still there.
Went to a strip joint in town center, on Tsvlinga close to Lenin Prospekt. Granted it was on a Sunday night which traditionally is a bit slow. But the entire time there were only my friend and I. So all the girls came bugging us to buy them drinks which I thought was a scheme of the club to get the customers to spend money one way or another.
The girls did ask us for permission if they could order drinks. And the shooter girl did confirm with my friend and I every time the girls ordered drinks. So I wouldn't say it was a rip off. But it was also very hard to refuse them. They were very aggressive. There were not a single other client that night other than us. The girls and the club had to make a living. So what the hell.
Girls were about 20 years old. 6-8 range. Private dance was 1000 rubles. Way too high if the exchange rate was 32, but at 65-70 what the hell. The general rule was no touching pizda. But I told the girls that was the only way that I'd agree to a private dance. They agreed. I guess it was the economic crisis. I also asked the girls about take out, it was 12,000. But of course it was way too expensive looking for sex this way.
Go to a sauna and ask the mamasan to order girls if sex is what you want, don't go to a strip joint. But the strippers are hotter.
And it was interesting that the business was so slow. Maybe the crisis really does have an impact.
So perhaps sponsoring can be the way to go now. Got to think up some strategies now.Great info about Chelyabinsk. I dated a girl in Moscow for nearly a year who was from Chelyabinsk. She was great. Hard working. Well educated. Smart. Slim. Athletic. Good looking. Great cook. Sex was always on the menu. She spent about 3-4 nights a week at my place and never gave me shit about going out with the boys till all hours of the night. Her frame of reference (Chelyabinsk men) had prepared her for men behaving badly. She was in her mid-30's, divorced and by her home town standards, I was a dream. The only problem was that she wanted to get married and have children. Ooops. Here's my point; if you are going to find a Russian girl, don't bother with one who is from Moscow. They are WAY too much trouble. Find one from the provinces.
Jonathan Pine
04-12-16, 17:07
Great info about Chelyabinsk. I dated a girl in Moscow for nearly a year who was from Chelyabinsk. She was great. Hard working. Well educated. Smart. Slim. Athletic. Good looking. Great cook. Sex was always on the menu. She spent about 3-4 nights a week at my place and never gave me shit about going out with the boys till all hours of the night. Her frame of reference (Chelyabinsk men) had prepared her for men behaving badly. She was in her mid-30's, divorced and by her home town standards, I was a dream. The only problem was that she wanted to get married and have children. Ooops. Here's my point; if you are going to find a Russian girl, don't bother with one who is from Moscow. They are WAY too much trouble. Find one from the provinces.JP,
I suggest you read a book titled "Putin country, the journey into the real Russia", if you're interested about Chelyabinsk. You can download it on Amazon. It was only published last month so the info is still relevant. In order to get to the girls, one must understand their natural habitat first.
I'd also suggest guys read "Nothing is true, anything is possible" by Peter Pomerantsev.
You mentioned dating a woman in her mid 30's. Basically I've noticed a dating pattern in Russia, maybe Moscow excluded. Girls usually get engaged or married to their shkola or university classmates, when they're only 18-22. No it's not a typo. They do get married and knocked up at a very young age. So the majority of girls in their 20's are off the market as they're in serious relationships. So strategy number for us is to get to these young girls, 18-22, before they get knocked up by local boys. Yes they're really just boys.
If we miss that window of opportunity, the next batch of single women are in their mid 30's after they're dumped by their previous husbands. So now these women enter dating market again after a long hiatus, when they're in their 20's. These women by now are used and abused. So they think we are a dream.
And the ex husbands, now in their mid 30's, are going after 18-22 year old girls. Men in Russia have no qualm about going after very young girls. A man would be a social outcast for dating a girl much younger in the West, but no such thing in Russia. Bill Clinton got into so much trouble for getting a blowjob from a fat cow when he was still relatively young in his 40's. When Putin at 60 married (or dating) 30 year old Alina Kabaeva it was celebrated in Russia.
The conductor of world famous Mariinsky Theater and Ballet married a 19 year old girl when he was 46. And he's considered a national treasure in Russia. If the conductor of NY Philharmonic does this, he'd be fired.
Like I said, Russian guys are the luckiest sons of bitches and mofo on the planet. Small wonder girls with half a brain want to get the fuck out of the country.
So we need to try harder, be braver. Not saying we should behave like Russian men, but we must forget our pussies selves in the West in order to succeed in Russia. It's a tough war out there getting pussies now.
Nearly finished my research on Kaliningrad and now working on the other 2 cities. Anyone here with updated intel on the mongering scene in the 3 cities?
I read back to 2014 but nothing new or updated.
Latest reliable site. Sites for quality escorts at reasonable non western prices?
Thanks to Cucumber, found this site which looks very promising http://eburgdosug.com/ ??
Thanks in advance.Managed to get some pointers and local contacts when I went for a drink in London few weeks ago. I figured the best way is to get first hand info from the many of the well to do Russians who frequent bars and restaurants at one of their upmarket fashionable playgrounds in London.
http://buddhabarlondon.com/
Then we ended up here right opposite Buddah bar. A Russian restaurant http://www.timeout.com/london/restaurants/mari-vanna.
After many vodkas and plenty of wine, It turned out, one couple wanted to try an upmarket swingers party in London. I gave them the info and they wanted to return the favor by giving me the phone number of one of their relatives in Novosibrisk who they say, is very well connected there.
But they agreed that I need some Russian skills over there. Got the phone number and other info.
Not really bothered if mongering or sponsoring isn't all that great as I really want to explore that part of the world at the right time of the year.
Plan A for me is to fly my UA Girl who is a Russian Speaker and is ethnic Russian and land there around the middle of June. I've traveled with her before to other places and she can do the scouting for girls herself as she's a a very attractive BI girl.
If not, just do the normal tourist stuff and explore the area.
Just come across this link and its contents " Scientists warn over 'rapid rate' of spread now accounting for 50% of new infections in Novosibirsk".
http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/siberian-alert-on-dangers-of-new-virulent-hiv-strain/
Not very pleasant reading it first thing in the morning?
I will be in Ufa pretty soon.
Is there an active scene of strip-clubs and massge parlors around?
Any advice is highly appreciated.
So far I only found this website: http://dosugufa.club/girl/.
Cheers.
Raptor.
Jonathan Pine
05-21-16, 19:37
I will be in Ufa pretty soon.
Is there an active scene of strip-clubs and massge parlors around?
Any advice is highly appreciated.
So far I only found this website: http://dosugufa.club/girl/.
Cheers.
Raptor.Raptor,
Go to Yandex map Ufa, type in Russian letters "strip club" and "erotic salon", and you should find a few. Then call the numbers of the erotic salons. Usually HJ only, no sex on the premise. When you call them they will tell you their apartment number and pricing and buzz code for the domaphone (intercom). I guess you'll have basic language skill to pull this off. Strip clubs should be easier for you. It pronounces the same in Russian. Good luck.
Putologist
05-22-16, 20:45
Raptor,
Go to Yandex map Ufa, type in Russian letters "strip club" and "erotic salon", and you should find a few. Then call the numbers of the erotic salons. Usually HJ only, no sex on the premise. When you call them they will tell you their apartment number and pricing and buzz code for the domaphone (intercom). I guess you'll have basic language skill to pull this off. Strip clubs should be easier for you. It pronounces the same in Russian. Good luck.Very good infos. I am specially interested in this "erotic salon", will check on my trip to Ufa in September. Thanks!
Raptor,
Go to Yandex map Ufa, type in Russian letters "strip club" and "erotic salon", and you should find a few. Then call the numbers of the erotic salons. Usually HJ only, no sex on the premise. When you call them they will tell you their apartment number and pricing and buzz code for the domaphone (intercom). I guess you'll have basic language skill to pull this off. Strip clubs should be easier for you. It pronounces the same in Russian. Good luck.Thanks for the tip, indeed a good one. I found several massage places. Today I visited (and enjoyed) Nirvana. I just showed up without an appointment. Early afternoon, so there where 2 girls available. A 7 and an 8 on my list.
I actually booked this package (use google translate if your russian is as mine not good enough to understand the text).
http://ufanirvana.ru/programmy/vysshij-pilotazh.html
And guess what it happened exactly as described. Top notch environment, not even close in comparison to the shitty massage parlors in Moscow where I recently also already paid 6000 Rub for 90 min.
You of course can touch the girl fully and she was really dedicated to her job. Jacuzy and Champagne was included. Nicely decorated room and environment.
Great fun. And yes, I know expensive, but trust me that was premium as indicated. They spoke basic to ok'ish english.
Will try another one (http://www.atmosferaufa.ru/programmi.html) tomorrow.
Cheers.
Raptor.
Jonathan Pine
05-26-16, 16:36
Raptor,
The facilities you went to were of higher end caliber. There are also "erotic salons" that are not really salons with jacuzzis. But regular apartments. On the ads they might have their own websites which shows the prices and girls, in fact they just operate out of apartments. You'll need to call them in order for the Mamasan to tell you their apartment number, not "dom" number and set up an appointment. For these kind of places you can't just show up without an appointment because you wouldn't know which apartment to buzz. Usually 2500 to 3000 rubles for an hour for a nude HJ. You can of course make an offer to see the girls outside for sex, or sponsoring. If they like you or if your offer is high enough, they might agree. Very unlikely they'd agree to have sex on the premise. Because this would effectively make them a brothel which is not legal.
Suka Shalava
06-01-16, 10:59
Gentleman. And the rest of you perverted bastards.
There is some clear evidence of economic progress in certain sectors. More new construction projects, (compared to 2014-2015 when many seemed like they were stalled), seem to be back on track. I'm no authority, but I expect that in some provinces where international futbol matches will be held, this probably has much to do with the 2018 World Cup. To his credit, President Putin continues to bring his country, airport by airport, stadium by stadium, into the 21st century.
But as for salaries for the average lady, from limited info I had a chance to ask about, they do not seem to be progressing. I emphasize average, okay?
Riding the avtobus or elechtrika every day back and forth to work long hours for $600 a month will pay bills, but you understand that clearly leaves some hopes, dreams, and desires unfulfilled. This is just simply the way 90% of the world economy is in 2016, not just Russia.
{By the way, always be very careful, please, as I did meet one lady (out of several who did not) who had needle marks all over her arms.}
Under these circumstances, is it a surprise that there are some ladies who are quite pleased to have a generous sponsor? Duh?
FACT: They are QUITE pleased. End of story.
Once again, I encourage you to stop wondering if visiting Russia is a good idea or not. It is. It really really is. Go.
Anyone remember Skeeter from the 70's in Gainesville? Open all night, we always ended up there after going out drinking too much, for breakfast for a Skeeter's Big Biscuit with gravy, to absorb all the alcohol we had consumed. Skeeter himself use to say on his tv commercials, 'Ya'll come down to eat at Skeeter's, okay? Because I NEED THE MONEY!
The point is, the ladies need it. So if you've got anywhere from $2000-$8000, go visit the provinces for two or three weeks, spend some time getting acquainted with these inspiring ladies and be generous. No promises or guarantees, it depends on you. Sure there will be some disappointments, but there are great rewards and treasures to be found, if you persevere.
Or you can miss your opportunity, but you will regret that.
Putologist
06-02-16, 14:01
Great Post man, as always.
Gentleman. And the rest of you perverted bastards.
Riding the avtobus or elechtrika every day Let not underrate the Marshroutkas))).
{By the way, always be very careful, please, as I did meet one lady (out of several who did not) who had needle marks all over her arms.}Yeah, this is bad news man. I heard that in Ekaterinburg this seem to be a big problem right now. Kazan must be better off in such subjects because there are many conservative (some even Muslim) women living there. For those looking for wife material, Tartarstan is IMO a good place to go.
Once again, I encourage you to stop wondering if visiting Russia is a good idea or not. It is. It really really is. Go.
Well, Gentlemens taste may vary. I know a guy who, believe or not, doesn't like Russian women, he is Russian himself but very much into Philippines or Thai girls. That said, One can sexsponsor in Russia for sure, yes. But there are many poorer countries in our planet, where there is also huge potential for female sponsorships.
Like you, I prefer Slavic ladies myself, but fortunately (or unfortunately) , we are not benchmark.
And i agree that the WC 2018 will open some doors for mongerism in some Russian cities. Lets hope for some change in legislation too, but as we are foreigners, we ourselves can not demand anything to that matter, only hope in silence.
Suka Shalava
06-03-16, 01:26
Great Post man, as always. Let not underrate the Marshroutkas
Tartarstan is IMO a good place to go.
Well, Gentlemens taste may vary. I know a Russian very much into Philippines or Thai girls. There are many poorer countries in our planet, where there is also huge potential for female sponsorships.
Like you, fortunately or unfortunately , we are not benchmark.
WC 2018 will open some doors for mongerism in some Russian cities.
Lets hope for some change in legislation too, but as foreigners, hope in silence.
You know, if I lay it out here for ya, and not slather it all up with excess superfluous bullshit, it's nice that it can be appreciated, and I mean that, so really, thanks sincerely. Fuck, usually, all the little whining b*tches just cry to mommy because I'm not posting which strip clubs and salons I go to, or rating performances of pro's. Course, they don't want to admit that I just don't go to strip clubs or salons or saunas, never have, and I haven't hooked up using Mamba or any other site for several years either. Just too long in the tooth for this bear, way past my bedtime. Oh yeah, and that I still leave it to your imagination which province is my fave. But I still hold that it shouldn't actually matter, if you can keep going somewhere year after year for ten years, there's enough opportunity anywhere to have enough friends to look after you, because the country has such very good people everywhere. It's all under the bridge now anyway, so who cares.
Saying all that, now I have to fuck with you, so don't take it personal, moy bratan. As for rating mini-buses, I'll always stick with my trolley care ticket taker girlfriend Irina, she was a dark eyed real hot number.
We agree that Kazan is high up there on our list of desired destinations, and that tatar ladies are some tasty treats! My trip last month I hooked up with my first lady I've met so far from Dagestan, a dark haired beauty that had fantastic boobs. She made my bicep cramp up from fifteen minutes of non-stop two-finger ratcheting her muff. She wanted me to keep going.
I get it that asian women are highly preferred, I dream all day when I'm in Russia about the cutie I met there from North Korea. And I loved the ladies in Bali, and I had a few excellent girlfriends from Cebu that were nurses at the hospital. Shit, at Sheremetyevo on Tuesday morning while I was waiting for my flight home, I sat 5 feet across from some LBFM that was as hot as any lady I think I've ever seen, she was wearing black adidas tights that were so fucking tight, I could see every detail of her crack, because she was giving me a wide open view. No guy could pass that up, she was way hotter than any russian lady I saw for the previous three weeks.
The thing I just don't feel comfortable with, is standing out so obviously as a bule' in asia. If I wasn't Caucasian, and could blend in, in a place like India, or any Oriental country, I'm sure I would have gone back there. I guess I should get over that. On the other hand, Aeroflot is just the best outfit I could have ever dreamed of. Compared to some really lousy, and some just ok, flight connections I've made in the past, I am really loving arriving at my apartment in the provinces in less than 16 hours total travel time from the east coast. That just can't be beat. But if I could blend in, like you said, a lot of sponsoring opportunities in Asia.
I don't get what you want to call what the benchmark is, though. I probably don't care, I'm plenty busy leaving my scent on the bench at the park where I stay, and smearing Snezhanna's scent on my mustache, haha. As for the 2018 World Cup, yes for sure, mongers are going to fuck everything up, that could spell the end for me, unless its possible for things to eventually get back to normal after its over. When is that scheduled, exactly? Just in a few summer months? Maybe my friends will flee the city to go the dachas in the village? They do that anyway in the summer.
And as for changes in legislation, WTF? What the hell are you hoping for, in silence or not? I mean their latest blame-game position is that their rising HIV rate is BECAUSE of condoms?! And you're hoping for WHAT change? You better hang up your hope for changes, and hope for something else, like maybe that Emperor Drumpf doesn't decide to sign a 21st century WWIII non-aggression pact in his race to armageddon.
Putologist
06-03-16, 11:51
And you're hoping for WHAT change? You better hang up your hope for changes, and hope for something else, like maybe that Emperor Drumpf doesn't decide to sign a 21st century WWIII non-aggression pact in his race to armageddon.Not political change. I don't care about politics. I mean the legislation about well, lets say it direct, prostitution, which is, all we all know, still prohibited in Russia. They did it in Germany BTW, it helped to protect the WGs (for example against blackmail).
SanGaetano
06-06-16, 08:55
Is any kind of action going on in the so called Golden Ring (Ivanovo, Yaroslavl, Vladimir etc.)? So far there is little stuff about them, seems to be very provincial. Salon, Strip clubs, websites (on rusdosug I found nothing), any infos much appreciated, thanks.
Gaetano
Hi,
I am going to Ufa in a few weeks. Does anyone of you have any updates regarding where to find girls?
Thanks.
I get it that asian women are highly preferred, I dream all day when I'm in Russia about the cutie I met there from North Korea. And I loved the ladies in Bali, and I had a few excellent girlfriends from Cebu that were nurses at the hospital. Shit, at Sheremetyevo on Tuesday morning while I was waiting for my flight home, I sat 5 feet across from some LBFM that was as hot as any lady I think I've ever seen, she was wearing black adidas tights that were so fucking tight, I could see every detail of her crack, because she was giving me a wide open view. No guy could pass that up, she was way hotter than any russian lady I saw for the previous three weeks.I doubt many coming to this particular forum would agree with you. I've spent a fair amount of time in Asia (Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia) and have fucked my share of Asian women, but they just don't do it for me. For a lot of us going to Asia is easier than Russia. For me, it maybe easier to find an attractive freebee in the Philippines, but for me the hottest Asian woman doesn't even compare to the above average Russian woman.
OK, this is probably stupid but I am thinking of visiting Novosibirsk. How can you beat the experience of being in the middle of Siberia 3300 KM east of Moscow?
It is the 3rd biggest city in Russia but I have searched and I can't find anything worthwhile. Has anyone visited in the last few years?
OK, this is probably stupid but I am thinking of visiting Novosibirsk. How can you beat the experience of being in the middle of Siberia 3300 KM east of Moscow?
It is the 3rd biggest city in Russia but I have searched and I can't find anything worthwhile. Has anyone visited in the last few years?Funnily enough Yummy, yes I have! And there is plenty. The Soviet experiment made Novosibirsk a melting pot of all of the ethnic groups in the Soviet Union. And as you might imagine, the girls there are stunning. I know you are not into the P4 P scene per se, but these two sites will give you a good glimpse into the "quality" of the girls.
http://nsk.sibirki.com/ This one is a local site for paid sex in Novosibirsk. Don't let the 404 sign fool you. This is a real site, not an error. Click in one of the links below the 404 to get to the ladies.
http://www.sexnsk.site/podrujki.htm This one is also dedicated to Novosibirsk girls. Check out the prices. It sure as hell is not Moscow!
The only downside to Novosibirsk (if there is a downside) is that it is a long away from anywhere. And there is not much English spoken. So you need to be prepared to survive using the Russian language. And as you also know, there are plenty of places to meet hot young girls in these provincial cities.
Enjoy.
I doubt many coming to this particular forum would agree with you. I've spent a fair amount of time in Asia (Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia) and have fucked my share of Asian women, but they just don't do it for me. For a lot of us going to Asia is easier than Russia. For me, it maybe easier to find an attractive freebee in the Philippines, but for me the hottest Asian woman doesn't even compare to the above average Russian woman.I am afraid I agree with Yummy. I live in Dubai now and I am surrounded by Asian women of all varieties. And they just don't do much for me. Plenty of CIS girls here in Dubai but, sadly, it's the second or third string team.
Jonathan Pine
02-26-17, 09:29
OK, this is probably stupid but I am thinking of visiting Novosibirsk. How can you beat the experience of being in the middle of Siberia 3300 KM east of Moscow?
It is the 3rd biggest city in Russia but I have searched and I can't find anything worthwhile. Has anyone visited in the last few years?Yummy, be prepared for the slush as lots of snow will be melting soon there.
Novosibirsk Opera and Theater is fantastic you have free time. Concert hall has been renovated recently. It's beautiful.
Just don't waste time finding language tutors as a way of meeting girls.
Enjoy Siberia and good luck.
Thanks JP and Jake. Should I go while it is still cold and University is still in session or is it better when it is warm? I'm actually thinking I need to target slightly older women, but I just love 19 year olds.
Jonathan Pine
03-04-17, 08:55
Thanks JP and Jake. Should I go while it is still cold and University is still in session or is it better when it is warm? I'm actually thinking I need to target slightly older women, but I just love 19 year olds.Go now while universities are in session. When all the activities are still happening. Even May is a bit too late I think.
We all like 19 year old. But have more realistic chance with girls over 25. Most of them are married at this age already or living with their boyfriends. Because living together is more economical as most young girls can't afford to rent flats on their own on salary. Your mission is to find the girls that are hot enough to bang but single. Now this is a very tough to do, even for Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt. Because any girl half decent looking in Russia already has some local guy banging her already. In the 90's or early 2000's there were still some hot chicks holding out, waiting for a foreign guy. I caught the last wave of that period. A regular Western guy in the 90's would do better in Russia than Tom Cruise would do now.
That's why I mentioned Opera house in the previous post. Because you're going to need it when your dance cards are empty.
Having said that, go now and good luck. Treat it as an adventure like Indiana Jones.
Thanks JP and Jake. Should I go while it is still cold and University is still in session or is it better when it is warm? I'm actually thinking I need to target slightly older women, but I just love 19 year olds.I agree with JP. If you can't go before universities break for the summer, you might want to think about coming in September when the small town girls come back.
Hi guys,
I will go to Taman area in few weeks for work (6 month).
Any advice what do and where to go in that region to have some fun?
Thanks,
S.
Hi guys,
I will go to Taman area in few weeks for work (6 month).
Any advice what do and where to go in that region to have some fun?
Thanks,
S.Nice! I am envious.
The local girls are nothing special but once summer rolls around there will be all kinds of girls from Siberia and Moscow who will be there for the season. And many will be bored and "un-supervised" as their husbands are working in Moscow and only come down for weekends. Target rich environment. While I have never been to Taman, I have been to Ghelendzhik and Sochi many times. Lots of opportunity for shenanigans as long as you don't mind fucking married women. Additionally, there are lots of girls from the provinces who come to the region to work as waitresses, etc for the season. You'll be like a cat in a creamery.
ChrilleSweden
05-14-17, 19:47
It is almost 5 years ago I was in Murmansk. Can someone please give us update from Murmansk?
Any strip clubs, escorte team or good new places to pick up?Did you find anything out? Going there I summer. Would like to get more info.
Lurkingdog
05-19-17, 01:13
Had a week of business in Kazan. Was a little disappointed that there wasn't more on the board about this up and coming city. My Russian is pretty rudimentary and so google translate was helpful. However, there are a couple of erotic massage places who have websites in English and in Russian. The one I went to was Calypso and I went to the Suvar Plaza location in the middle of the day. I had the Dream of Odyssey selection with one "master". The price was not cheap at 4,500 rubles but in the grand scheme of things, with the dollar exchange rate what it is, it was of little concern. The place is very clean and very safe and the attendant I had, while she did not speak any English, she was incredibly skilled and I thoroughly enjoyed our session. It's essentially full body massage and a very happy ending. Was treated like a total king. Enjoy.
LD.
Jarjarmissa
05-21-17, 15:42
Concerning Kazan, my advice is simply: Badoo.
Except if you are old and ugly, badoo is a golden mine. And if you are old and ugly, then upload a fake photo and only chat for collecting the best advises. These russian girls like chatting with non russian guys. And even if they are looking for serious relationship, and even if you will never meet them, they are an amazing source of good, updated, local tips.
The rules are: Don't jump like an animal on a piece of meat. Be polite, nice, educated, and you discover that all these girls are:
1- Excited to talk to a non Russian guy.
2- Impressed that "man can be polite". AMOF, they are spammed by tons of suckers who ask for: "do you want sex" - "can you send sexy pics" and so on. Therefore, a nice guy, who care a bit, is more than welcomed.
Personally, I go there for only 3 days, and I am obliged to "choose" ! Yep that's a fucking reality, it is up to us to select who do we want to date. For sure it is not Moscow, but the lineup is impressive. Just need to have time to select, and to chat.
I stop immediately all the complains: Yes I am not talking about working girls or massage parlour but of "dating". But my post is about "an international sex advises".
And where is the border between: I pay for fucking & I date with someone I am certain she is hot and ready to fuck.
These girls are not from US or Europe. They are hot. Even if they are from a muslim region. And they are fucking gorgeous.
Some advises, I collected while I was chatting on badoo for punter who want to pay:
1- There are working girls available without issues, just a matter of: To ask for. Taxi, Concierge. Who you want, they can advise.
2- There is a place where you can meet both "normal girls" (normal here for me means: Are not looking for a client) - "semi-pro" - "pro" : https://vk.com/the_legend_kzn.
It seems that you can find everything you want. And men a little bit smart is immediately detected and hunted by the girls. Unfortunately I cannot confirm what I have been told because it is a disco, and disco in this city are opened only on FRI-SAT.
3- There is a place where "it seems" we can find what we are looking for: http://maximilians.ru/kazan/ but when you look at the video https://vimeo.com/153092920 I guess we have to cross our fingers: Nurse party ok. Rock band with gorgeous blond girl party ok. But Beer contest evening. No way:-the.
So for me. I am 45 and not ugly) - I booked:
- A visit to Maximilians to give a try.
- A meeting in a city located at 30 min drive (12 $ Uber. Yes it is a CITY, there is Uber in this middle of nowhere) of Kazan for experiencing a meeting with Elena 28 y 1 m64 50 kg (sorry I'm in Europe)) - A fucking 8+ (with 1.75 she would have been a 9). She lives alone with her daughter but she is desperate of russian guys. Long and nice chat. She even tried to figure out girls in Kazan for me. We decided to meet, only for a cocktail, but she is definitely hot and we are going to fuck (will let you know), she asked for. A french perfume (Duty free at the airport, 50€ and if no fuck, I will offer to another one).
- The third day I have also a meeting with Lilia, 39 y, good 8+, 1 m68, 57 kgs, blond, long hairs, the typical russian beauty but. Fun with her I bet a 75%. I still have a doubt that she can escape before the arrival at the hotel, but I like that, it'll be catch me if you can.
- And in case of last minute cancellation, I have as a back up: A meeting with Irina, 35 y, who wants to experience sex game (slave) , and another meeting with Albina, 33 y, 1 m77,8+, black hairs, ex model, rich girl who does not work, in her case she is only a backup because I am not convinced it'll 50/50 for fucking.
So I will tell later if I am or not disapointed, but my feeling is exactly the opposite of the post below. I can't wait to experience this city.
Lurkingdog
05-22-17, 01:20
Appreciate Jarjarissa's post. Too bad I didn't have that information before going to Kazan. On my last night, I decided to splurge one more time and visit Calypso but this time in the Korston complex. The salon is extremely difficult to find. It is NOT in the hotel (although there is Cassanova's which is in the hotel on the 13th floor and looks great but extremely expensive) and it's not in the mall part (by McDonald's) but it's all the way through the convention area and then you need to find the business center elevators and go up to the third floor. I got there after about 30 minutes of poking around trying to find it and the extremely hot receptionist said that I needed to wait for an hour for a girl. I sort of balked at that wait and then, for some reason there was a girl who would be available in 10 minutes! So I waited and got Margo and very cute dark haired girl with a smoking body. While my session with her was nice, it wasn't as hot as the other one that I reported on earlier. I think Margo was relatively new and was nowhere near as sensual as the other girl I had. Have fun.
LD.
Suka Shalava
05-29-17, 01:23
I doubt many coming to this particular forum would agree with you.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Asia (Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia) and have fucked my share of Asian women, but they just don't do it for me.
For a lot of us going to Asia is easier than Russia.
For me, it maybe easier to find an attractive freebee in the Philippines, but for me the hottest Asian woman doesn't even compare to the above average Russian woman.
Hey its been a while.
Well, you know by now I'm in my comfort zone when only the fewest here can see things my way! But its no secret that after one 1999 trip to Bali, I've gone only to Ukraine, Minsk, and Russia 33 times in a row. While I was home in between those 33 trips, I used to go to the AMP's, but all those ladies are korean or chinese mommies in their 30's and 100% not hot and defiinitely not GFE. In fact, in the last few years, I haven't even bothered even trying to get laid between trips. Up until my most recent adventure in Candyland, I had just gone an entire year without pussy.
Also, for me its the opposite, Russia is 1000% easier than Asia. And other than my goddess Natasha, the majority of the ladies I've met have been average or above, but not the hottest, though there've also been a lot wonderful exceptions.
I guess the mindset I was in when I wrote that post was one of frustration. Natasha had stood me up the last two weeks of my trip and I was not happy about that. Then I sit across from some asian hottie at the airport that was magical AND showing me her crack?
Suka Shalava
05-31-17, 10:53
Nice summer girls from Siberia and Moscow will be there for the season, their husbands only come down for weekends.
Girls from the provinces come to work as waitresses.
Hey, are you REALLY talking about the little outpost at the western tip of Krasnodar Krai, is a destination for Russian wives and waitresses?
And Wastilien, you're sent there TO WORK?? Work ON WHAT? The new bridge across the straight?
As for where to go,. Jake, wouldn't he need to go to Kerch or Krasnodar?
Or just any of the little seaside town beaches where dirt-poor domestic tourists go to swim and drink beer?
Like Anapa? A girlfriend of mine from Kirov went there for the summer to work as a waitress at some shitty beach cafe.
AntonySun1996
06-09-17, 20:54
Hi gents,
I will be soon off to Sochi, would really appreciate any advice about how to find girls online. Is this site trustworthy? Sexosochi. Mobi Has anyone tried it?
Thanks.
Jorge Rad10
08-10-17, 19:30
It has been a long time since I wrote in this forum, but now I'm back to give more clue about inner russia to this forum rather than Moscow. Let me start off with what happened with me, got a Russian girlfriend, having a complicated relationship with her up's and down's. After a while we decided to split up. Workload kept me busy but I needed to come back to hunt devushki.
The come back to the action is not easy, I found Moscow quite different from 4 years ago, English signals everywhere, hipsters are all over Moscow as well. I found myself rusty to chase devushki in Moscow but after some weeks, my shape kept better.
Decided to move inside Russia instead to orbitate around Moscow. I have chosen Krasnodar without having any clue about what will happen, south Moscow, 2 hours by flight and then you will find a really nice summer spot. Tried to contact some girls and it was hard to go through. It's the province of Russia, girls are more close and conservatism in all over the city.
Luckily I found another method to get contact with girls, my Russian is not good yet but I'm able to understand and speak which somehow gave more benefits. So I found a girl and started talking with her while she was singing in a karaoke bar, I didn't play much with her because I was leaving to another city called Anapa the next day but I kept talking with her online. We decided to have a lunch after my weekend on the beach.
I didn't pay much attention to the girl the night we met, I saw her and she was beautiful and that was enough for me. The day we met for having lunch, I got impress with the beauty of the girl, she was really a beauty, she was a model in her 16's which is normal to find many ex models in Russia. A stunning blondika worth an investment.
We decided to be crazy and invited her to spend a weekend in Moscow, so she came to meet me. Took her to smoke in a nice place in Moscow city, where you could also find good talents. We sat down in the place and enjoy the moment and the view. Imagine a guy smoking shisha with a beautiful girl and ready to please you and she did. The weekend was a mix of sex and fun. I begun with good step my come back to the country where I like the most.
Russia, I'm back.
I spent 3 months in Kyiv and some other cities in Uka, It was a test drive, some of them I met may still be opened to sponsorship but kyiv is pretty much dead because they are getting richer now. I have to go to smaller cities. I heard villages are risky because they may kill you and nobody will care. I will plan to go to Russia next year some of those cities are good choice poor enough.
Lurkingdog
05-13-18, 21:42
Back in Kazan for another business trip. Saw the Relax Salon webpage and decided to try it out. Don't be fooled by the address on the website, it's wrong. My Russian wasn't very good, but the hostess on the other line made it extremely easy for me to find the place. It's in a basement near the downtown city center of Kazan. It was a little tricky finding the actual location but the taxi driver helped me as well. I had a totally amazing session with Margot that left me wanting more. It appears that "Take out" is available but the hostess stated that the rules in the hotel where the same as those in the salon (no sex). Has anybody had takeout from one of these establishments to let me know whether that is actually true or is it a YMMV thing? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
LD.
Lurkingdog
05-15-18, 23:58
Well. I was so smitten by this young woman that I had to go back. I had contemplated "take out" but there was a standard charge of 10,000 rubles for 1-4 hours and as the hostess told me, "no sex". So if there wasn't going to be any sex, I thought I would just go back to the studio / salon and see Margot again. Wow! This young woman really does it for me. At the end of the first hour the knock came on the door and I chose to extend for another hour. As far as the activities— let's just say YMMV but I was totally satisfied after this visit. What a wonderful girl. . . The memories will have to last until my next trip but I definitely left a part of me with that young woman. Russian girls can be amazing!!
LD.
Has anyone got tips for Sochi? Am there for a week?
ForeplayKing
06-09-18, 08:22
Hello all!
This is a senior member from India.
I am landing in sochi on 14th June 2018 for a couple of days (fifa world cup) and was wondering about the mongering scene there.
Any leads and tips would be helpful and appreciated.
Best wishes.
ForePlayKing.
Lurkingdog
10-07-18, 05:28
Back in Kazan for another week. Will probably stop at Relax salon to see Margo. Don't know what else is going on. Will make field reports when I can.
LD.
Lurkingdog
10-08-18, 20:34
So, I was able to get back to the Relax Salon and see Margot again. I had texted ahead of time and let her know I was coming. She was waiting at the door for me. She stated that she remembered me very well (I know the girls are all supposed to say that) but at least it seemed to be true (anyway, I believed it based on how she responded to me) — that's my story and I'm sticking with it! I session was as if the past five months was just yesterday. We had a wonofun shower and then amazingly fun post-shower activities. Once again I paid for the one hour, 2-relaxes, program and the sensuality was even more than the last time I was there. (5,000 rubles — approximately $75 USD). We really enjoyed one another and I had a marvelous time. I don't know if there were any other attendants present, the last time I went there was a lineup, but I was only there to see Margot anyway. If any of you get to go, I would highly recommend it. The address is Tazi Gizzata ulitsa,1 B but be forewarned, the taxis and the Uber seem to have an incredibly hard time finding this place. The closest intersection to this Salon is Tazi Gizzata ulitsa and Levobulachnaya ulitsa. Have fun! I'll probably return several more times before I leave to go back home it's that satisfying.
LD.
Lurkingdog
10-11-18, 20:42
As mentioned in the previous post, I seem to have found my own little spot of heaven here in Kazan. Stopped by and saw Margo again at Relax and had another marvelous time. One of the delightful things about her is that she seems genuinely happy all of the time — in my experience in this hobby, the providers (understandably) become jaded by all of the clients they deal with on a daily / hourly basis, some of whom I'm sure must stretch the provider's patience. In the four times I've been with her, Margo is never that way. And while she has a killer body, she has just as nice a smile that is warm and welcoming. I think I will likely stop by one more time before I have to return to the States.
LD.
Lurkingdog
10-14-18, 19:38
Had free time Saturday afternoon. I arrived about 4:00 pm and somewhat surprisingly, 6 of the 7 rooms were occupied. I guess Saturday afternoon is prime mongering time in Kazan. Of course, I was there to see Margo, and it seemed by what the Madam was saying (this one was named Olga), she called Margo and she was "enroute" from her apartment. Of course, it could have been that she was in with another client and Olga just didn't want to tell me that. Anyway after about a 45 minute wait, I had my session with Margo— it was another amazing time. I think Olga May have given us a little more time since I waited for so long. Would love to have a place like this in the USA.
LD.
Would love to have a place like this in the USA.
LD.Amen brother. But it would be the death of us all!
Philosophus
11-29-18, 19:42
I enjoy bedding a roster of pretty, skinny, petite regulars half my age or less, and have met quite a few very nice and educated ones in salons or on the web. BBBJ, DFK, 69 and CIF are my favorites and I ask this of any regular. Not so in this City. It seems to be swept of all beauties. I surmise they ply their trade in Moscow, where there is more anonymity and more money. The ads for independents on the web are all fake in NN. Photos 100% fake. You call and a dispatcher sends a like-sized Girl to you. The Dispatcher pretends to be the Girl. Even if they admit they are a Dispatcher, they blatantly lie to you. I was sent a petite one the other day, who was a mother of 25 why, chubby, not a great face, lots of make up, basically the opposite of my preferences. Decided not to make a Scene and had her for a prolonged massage. She was uptight, no hornyness, no wetness, no BBBJ. I just let her work my Little man and eventually sent her on her way. I was there to find a sponsorette in this City and failed. The search is pleasant and will continue.
EverHungry
01-16-19, 10:55
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ThatsMe101
02-13-19, 23:17
Will be in Arkhangelsk this weekend, little to no info to find. Will be occupied most of the time, only have some hours on Friday afternoon I am told. Any advice to a novice?
CzarNicholas
05-30-19, 12:11
I would like to try mongering in Siberia?
Any suggestions?
Many thanks!
Lurkingdog
06-06-19, 13:28
So, after a 7-8 month hiatus, I made it back to Kazan. As a background, the "dancer / attendant" that I had grown attached to, Margo, had contacted me out of the blue in between Thanksgiving and Christmas via WhatsApp. At our last meeting in Kazan, I had mentioned that I would like to send her a gift. She stated she would like some new shoes but once I got back to the States, time got away and this totally fell off my radar screen. Obviously, it had not fallen off hers as her messages inquired about her shoes. So I got her Russian shoe size, her desired design style, hit some of the discounted shoe stores in my town, and bought her a pair. With the holiday sales, the price of the shoes was way less than the price of postage to send them to Kazan. She also had to reveal to me her "real name" as the gift had to go through Russian customs.
So I sent the shoes off as a belated Christmas gift (not knowing how long it would take for the package to arrive) and figured things were done. However, after the shoes arrived, she was very excited and happy. And she started writing to me frequently (some of you already know where this story is leading. . . But keep reading, there is a total twist at the end! From her messages, I discovered she had the use of her "boss's" phone for a month — and that she had originally Whatsapped me with her boss's phone — as her own phone was accidentally damaged and no longer functioning. She apparently had an iPhone, and had a very expensive line of credit that she was still paying on despite no longer having a phone that worked, and she wanted me to "send her $400" so she could get a new phone. I told her that while I wouldn't send her the money through the mail, I would plan to help her out the next time I saw her. The messages continued throughout the month and I enjoy texting with her, finding out various things about her non-salon life.
Then, as the month ended, our correspondence did as well. I did get some sporadic texts and I did mention that I was going to be returning in May.
Fast-forward to May. I returned and contacted her (through the Salon) and made arrangements to come in for a visit. I changed extra cash to provide her the $400 dollars she said she needed. But my plan was to ask her to meet me outside of the Salon in order to provide her the gift.
So I showed up for the visit, and frustratingly and unexpectedly, her boss (the head lady with whom I had corresponded in the past) came out and said the Margo "had just left" the Salon. The story was that she had an "urgent call" and had to leave. When I inquired about when she might return, her boss said "no idea". But, of course, she offered one of her others "girls" to take care of me.
So, I'm sitting there, feeling that I am a recipient of the ultimate bait-and-switch. I considered walking out but the boss enticed me to at least see the line-up (she obviously wanted my money). So, I relented. Let's just say that if it was "bait and switch", I hope all of my bait and switches work out this way. Three absolutely stunning women were brought out (as you all know, Russia has no shortage of beautiful women) and Margo was gone from my mind. I selected Sasha, and had a much better session than I ever had with Margo. As a total reversal of fortune, I saw Sasha two more times out of the Salon in my hotel for prolonged FS sessions that were amazing. Sasha was amazingly responsive— totally multi-orgasmic — and in the true "Penthouse forum" fashion, I found my Russia nymphomaniac. Am already trying to figure out how to meet up with her for my next visit.
So, the moral of my long story: there are as many pleasant surprises as unpleasant surprises in this hobby of ours. And there are many "fish in the sea".
CzarNicholas
06-07-19, 11:30
So, after a 7-8 month hiatus, I made it back to Kazan. As a background, the "dancer / attendant" that I had grown attached to, Margo, had contacted me out of the blue in between Thanksgiving and Christmas via WhatsApp. At our last meeting in Kazan, I had mentioned that I would like to send her a gift. She stated she would like some new shoes but once I got back to the States, time got away and this totally fell off my radar screen. Obviously, it had not fallen off hers as her messages inquired about her shoes. So I got her Russian shoe size, her desired design style, hit some of the discounted shoe stores in my town, and bought her a pair. With the holiday sales, the price of the shoes was way less than the price of postage to send them to Kazan. She also had to reveal to me her "real name" as the gift had to go through Russian customs.
So I sent the shoes off as a belated Christmas gift (not knowing how long it would take for the package to arrive) and figured things were done. However, after the shoes arrived, she was very excited and happy. And she started writing to me frequently (some of you already know where this story is leading. . . But keep reading, there is a total twist at the end! From her messages, I discovered she had the use of her "boss's" phone for a month and that she had originally Whatsapped me with her boss's phone as her own phone was accidentally damaged and no longer functioning. She apparently had an iPhone, and had a very expensive line of credit that she was still paying on despite no longer having a phone that worked, and she wanted me to "send her $400" so she could get a new phone. I told her that while I wouldn't send her the money through the mail, I would plan to help her out the next time I saw her. The messages continued throughout the month and I enjoy texting with her, finding out various things about her non-salon life..I can't tell you how many times I have lost contact with the most amazing hooker, and feeling all is lost LOL.
Only to turn around and find something much much much better LOL.
DramaFree11
06-07-19, 20:55
I can't tell you how many times I have lost contact with the most amazing hooker, and feeling all is lost LOL.
Only to turn around and find something much much much better LOL.This is what makes Russia so great, always someone better looking and younger. I love Russia.
My friends asked me on my last trip if I was upset, about my girl going AWOL, I said no, because I know what is out there, the possibilities are endless in Russia. Need a decent budget, dress appropriately and act like a professional.
I am not saying they are not crazy, but when you add all the factors together Russia is the best for me. Nightlife, On-line dating, Referrals from friends, and Escorts!
Lurkingdog
06-09-19, 23:45
I can't tell you how many times I have lost contact with the most amazing hooker, and feeling all is lost LOL.
Only to turn around and find something much much much better LOL.Thank you, Sir. Glad my story resonated with your experience. It was my first.
LD.
Lurkingdog
06-09-19, 23:47
This is what makes Russia so great, always someone better looking and younger. I love Russia.
My friends asked me on my last trip if I was upset, about my girl going AWOL, I said no, because I know what is out there, the possibilities are endless in Russia. Need a decent budget, dress appropriately and act like a professional.
I am not saying they are not crazy, but when you add all the factors together Russia is the best for me. Nightlife, On-line dating, Referrals from friends, and Escorts!I fully agree with you. It makes me want to improve my ability to speak Russian. Google translate has been great!
LD.
HappyMimiore
06-10-19, 13:26
So, after a 7-8 month hiatus, I made it back to Kazan. As a background, the "dancer / attendant" that I had grown attached to, Margo, had contacted me out of the blue in between Thanksgiving and Christmas via WhatsApp. At our last meeting in Kazan, I had mentioned that I would like to send her a gift. She stated she would like some new shoes but once I got back to the States, time got away and this totally fell off my radar screen. Obviously, it had not fallen off hers as her messages inquired about her shoes. So I got her Russian shoe size, her desired design style, hit some of the discounted shoe stores in my town, and bought her a pair. With the holiday sales, the price of the shoes was way less than the price of postage to send them to Kazan. She also had to reveal to me her "real name" as the gift had to go through Russian customs.".Sir, when you in Kazan, you only check Relaxxx Salon? Are there any ways to find new salon in Kazan? Mamba? Website?
Lurkingdog
06-12-19, 18:41
Sir, when you in Kazan, you only check Relaxxx Salon? Are there any ways to find new salon in Kazan? Mamba? Website?Unfortunately, I don't have a truly systematic way to find these facilities. I have some previous reports on the Calypso establishments. I also haven't tried the other strip clubs that are frequently mentioned on internet searches. Any thoughts you have are welcome.
LD.
I came across this site for Tomsk http://70.dosug.site/girls.php.
It gives me the impression there might be some action in Tomsk. I have no idea how legitimate the ads are, but to me some of them seem genuine.
Scankonsult
07-25-19, 12:21
Hello!
Please is there updates on Kazan.
I want to find sexy escorts with real pics but many pages has old updates.
Please share current good websites if there are some.
Also I really want to enjoy spa / massage salon where you could enjoy massage with full sex service.
I'm bit scared of robbery and high price drinks, or that I would put my money somewhere inappropriate.
All comments of city scene are welcome.
Best regards,
Sc.
Any recent posts?
Researched here but couldn't find any.
Thanks in advance.
Any recent posts?
Researched here but couldn't find any.
Thanks in advance.In fact nothing here on the place and I searched going back 10 years and more. Prices seem very reasonable and the European part of Russia sounds safer than the Asian Part.
PhotoSlider
08-07-19, 05:39
In fact nothing here on the place and I searched going back 10 years and more. Prices seem very reasonable and the European part of Russia sounds safer than the Asian Part.If you talking about former Konigsberg, enclave on the Baltic Sea between Poland and Lithuania, - I believe 10-12 years ago it had one of the highest rates of HIV / AIDS. I doubt it went down substantially.
If you talking about former Konigsberg, enclave on the Baltic Sea between Poland and Lithuania, - I believe 10-12 years ago it had one of the highest rates of HIV / AIDS. I doubt it went down substantially.Hi P.S,
The main thing that puts me off at present is the hassle of getting a Russian Visa.
You, re correct re HIV / AIDS and that's what I read online in a Lancet report dated June 1997 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05) 63918-9/ fulltext. . I doubt very much I would encounter any of that lot when I get to visit Kaliningrad.
Interesting reading here and more up to date on Hiv and Aids showing Ukraine in Second place. https://www.avert.org/professionals/hiv-around-world/eastern-europe-central-asia.
The Russian Federation (Russia) has the largest HIV epidemic in Eastern Europe and Central Asia, reaching its millionth case of HIV in 2016.
Ukraine has the second-largest HIV epidemic in Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and recent gains have been threatened by conflict in the region.
https://www.newsweek.com/epidemic-hiv-rates-keep-rising-eastern-europe-1234589
Macintosh555
10-07-19, 17:01
Hi,
I am first time in Russia. "Stupino" is the name of the town. (1057;1090;1091;769;1087;1080;1085;1086.
Anybody can give any advice on local girls? Any contact number or website or address, please?
Thank you.
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