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Just visited freubad today (23 August) and I don't get why people recommend it. I took the package 2 x 30 minutes for 279 CHF and both girls gave me blowjob with condom despite we clearly agreed upon BBBJ, kissing, multiple positions. I called this out and they quickly made up some lies. The girls also keep telling me to orgasm even though we just started to fuck. The food were okay but with fewer selection than FKKs in Germany. You also have to grill your own meat in the BBQ. One positive thing is that many girls encourage to do public sex. The outdoor area is very nice.
I totally agree with this assessment. I have been there in April so not really summer based on great recommendations. But was disappointed. I even tried Ruby who is mentioned clearly as GFE many times. She was cute but a bit hesitant and ok.
Others were not upto the mark- same thing. Cumin fast, no DFK despite me mentioning upfront this is a non-negotiatble for me (I even rejected girls who said no upfront).
I doubt I will ever go back there no matter how good the outdoors are.
Just visited freubad today (23 August) and I don't get why people recommend it. I took the package 2 x 30 minutes for 279 CHF and both girls gave me blowjob with condom despite we clearly agreed upon BBBJ, kissing, multiple positions. I called this out and they quickly made up some lies. The girls also keep telling me to orgasm even though we just started to fuck. The food were okay but with fewer selection than FKKs in Germany. You also have to grill your own meat in the BBQ. One positive thing is that many girls encourage to do public sex. The outdoor area is very nice.
Just visited freubad today (23 August) and I don't get why people recommend it. I took the package 2 x 30 minutes for 279 CHF and both girls gave me blowjob with condom despite we clearly agreed upon BBBJ, kissing, multiple positions. I called this out and they quickly made up some lies. The girls also keep telling me to orgasm even though we just started to fuck. The food were okay but with fewer selection than FKKs in Germany. You also have to grill your own meat in the BBQ. One positive thing is that many girls encourage to do public sex. The outdoor area is very nice.When you say 'people recommend it' it's probably more like one person who's obsessive repetitive gibberish constantly litters this corner of ISG.
Anyways, your post reminded me of an observation I made on my last visit. I'm starting to suspect that the system in Swiss clubs, with Globe in particular, motivates girls to use the common areas for sex rather than go to the rooms. The girls pay less to the house when they say '1 HR public' as opposed to '1 HR room'. There is no bed to make or room to tidy up after the session. And I would hazard a guess that sessions outside the room tend to last longer than room sessions. Conversely, at clubs where you pre-pay for your sessions at the door, that detracts motivation from the girls to perform since she already knows that this customer is a fixed half hour session, so she rushes to get to the pop and move on. I find that no matter what the scenario, keeping the allure of 'more time' open with a girl always ups their performance and compliance to the max. Even if offered at a discount, I always skip the pre-pay at the door packages. I need more control over my destiny than that.
Conversely, at clubs where you pre-pay for your sessions at the door, that detracts motivation from the girls to perform since she already knows that this customer is a fixed half hour session, so she rushes to get to the pop and move on. I find that no matter what the scenario, keeping the allure of 'more time' open with a girl always ups their performance and compliance to the max. Even if offered at a discount, I always skip the pre-pay at the door packages. I need more control over my destiny than that.I totally agree with this. I suspected it as well while I was there. Not to mention that the cost of living in Switzerland is very high which makes 100 CHF worth little to the girls so the girls give the lowest service. It is unfortunate because it is killing their business.
I was very disappointed on my last visit on August, mainly by not anymore flexible management but in self satisfaction about very average quality for their casting and some girls on tagesplan not working and I won t return for this, but since Summer 2022, I had so many = more than 10 much better rooms at Freubad with prettier more fresh girls than at Globe where girls are not anymore pretty enough for me to pay for, even in the dark. But Freubad on 2023 is not on same level than in 2022. About pre payment, at Freubad or Amesia, I always say I start to pay for minimum time but I wish she will give me will to stay longer, 1 h30 for all our rooms with so fresh Swiss at Amesia, 510/90.
Just visited freubad today (23 August) and I don't get why people recommend it. I took the package 2 x 30 minutes for 279 CHF and both girls gave me blowjob with condom despite we clearly agreed upon BBBJ, kissing, multiple positions. I called this out and they quickly made up some lies. The girls also keep telling me to orgasm even though we just started to fuck. The food were okay but with fewer selection than FKKs in Germany. You also have to grill your own meat in the BBQ. One positive thing is that many girls encourage to do public sex. The outdoor area is very nice.I posted a similar experience at Freubad in the Bern thread (Freubad is closer to Bern) and won't go back any time soon.
In a reply Cowens summed it up well in his reply to my post. Paul also added some comments. In summary Freubad seems to only work if you are a regular and invest the time and money and accept the risk. Or you are an outdoor fan.
For me I will stick mainly with Globe and only rarely try the other clubs. I also really dislike packages and the seem to encourage worse service even in the Imperium Clubs that have them.
I totally agree with this. I suspected it as well while I was there. Not to mention that the cost of living in Switzerland is very high which makes 100 CHF worth little to the girls so the girls give the lowest service. It is unfortunate because it is killing their business.Freubad girls are given 100/30 by club versus 120 or 125 by Globe, when I m sure their entry and living is less expensive at Freubad than Globe from what I remember told by Megan. If You are able to manage without needing Globe rules killing spontaneous, then more freshness and natural at Freubad from my as a foreigner experiences since Summer 2022 and only my fault if I didn't go with welcoming coming to kiss Zayra on my last visit when was fresh GFE on our rooms. I didn't repeat any Globe girl since August 2021 , when I repeated 5 at Freubad since July 2022 and I miss my Summer 2022 with who I had 6 1 hour rooms. My arithmetics talk to me and for less expensive: 100 versus 150/30 , with prettier more fresh girls.
Conversely, at clubs where you pre-pay for your sessions at the door, that detracts motivation from the girls to perform since she already knows that this customer is a fixed half hour session, so she rushes to get to the pop and move on. I find that no matter what the scenario, keeping the allure of 'more time' open with a girl always ups their performance and compliance to the max. Even if offered at a discount, I always skip the pre-pay at the door packages. I need more control over my destiny than that.The fact that you pre-pay your room doesn't' limit you to 30 minutes sessions. You could buy a 3 x30 package and spend 1 hour with one girl and then 30 minutes with another. Then pay the normal price for a third session because your package has been completely used. I often start with 30 minutes (always with new girls), but you can extent to more time if you feel it is worth it, simply paying for the additional time at the end of the session. Regarding the rushing to finish, what I have witnessed at Cleo and Freubad, is that with pre-payment there is no real control of how much time you spent in the room at the end. However, being a frequent customer in not busy afternoons with regular girls and having good contact with reception girls, I think this resulted for me more in sessions that were above the strict 30 minutes than occasions where we spent less time in the room. But naturally, other girls can also use this at their advantages. There could be also more control a Saturday evening when there is a room shortage.
I don't think that it is necessarily the time of the session that influence the motivations of some girls. If both the customer and the girl are regulars in the club, it helps to align the interests in a long-term relationship. But if the girl has no intention to stay long in the club or she feels it is a one-time for you, then there are more chances that the girl will not perform at her best. When they ask you questions like "where do you come from?" or "is this your first time in the club? I have the impression that some of the girls are assessing your "value" and how they should behave. Girls also see how you behave with the club personnel and / or manager.
I will not recommend buying packages if you are discovering a club in a one-time visit, but it is great for returning customers who know how they can spend their time. It has to be noted that for instance the Freubad packages (except the happy hour) are not cheaper that paying "as you go" in competitors like the Swiss or the Sex-Park.
I confirm more flexible for time at Amesia or Freubad than little guy on Globe desk.
PaulInZurich
08-25-23, 05:28
... but you can extent to more time if you feel it is worth it, simply paying for the additional time at the end of the session..In Amesia I found it really annoying that when I actually wanted to extend, the girl had to take the money and go at the reception to pay. Mood killer.
In Amesia I found it really annoying that when I actually wanted to extend, the girl had to take the money and go at the reception to pay. Mood killer.I never experienced at Amesia but paying for extending at the end. With 2, I had to tell when they didn't ask money about extending. At Freubad, only very new and brunette Eda told me I had to pay before extending, but never happened again after what I told desk about low quality to manage like this, even some guys, even in Switzerland, don't have money to pay their girl. Also happening in Germany.
PaulInZurich
08-26-23, 19:15
In Amesia I found it really annoying that when I actually wanted to extend, the girl had to take the money and go at the reception to pay. Mood killer.This happened to me this year. Again this year, the only time a girl tried to pull a CBJ was in Amesia.
This happened to me this year. Again this year, the only time a girl tried to pull a CBJ was in Amesia.Same with me, Paul.
18 year old spinner, quite hot with beautiful body and face but no experience and could not speak English or German. Made the mistake of taking her and she did a CBJ and then after 15 minutes, she tells me its done, time up. I went to the reception and complained and got my money back and got out of there!
Same with me, Paul.
18 year old spinner, quite hot with beautiful body and face but no experience and could not speak English or German. Made the mistake of taking her and she did a CBJ and then after 15 minutes, she tells me its done, time up. I went to the reception and complained and got my money back and got out of there!A 18 yo fresh beauty, kind of Christmas so motivating to work hard to try to get back. Just have to be able when no rules, but getting from what we are.
PaulInZurich
08-30-23, 19:50
Same with me, Paul.
18 year old spinner, quite hot with beautiful body and face but no experience and could not speak English or German. Made the mistake of taking her and she did a CBJ and then after 15 minutes, she tells me its done, time up. I went to the reception and complained and got my money back and got out of there!In my case when the WG tried CBJ I immediately got out of bed and told her that sorry, that's not happening. She apologized that it was a misunderstanding, blah blah. My mood was ruined but I worked her until the last minute. Strangely enough, a while later when I went again to Amesia she came to talk to me but I made it clear I am not interested.
In my case when the WG tried CBJ I immediately got out of bed and told her that sorry, that's not happening. She apologized that it was a misunderstanding, blah blah. My mood was ruined but I worked her until the last minute. Strangely enough, a while later when I went again to Amesia she came to talk to me but I made it clear I am not interested.Good on you, you still had patience to work on her. Once my mood is gone, its usually downhill and then junior doesn't work well either. I will be more careful if I go to Amesia again.
2 separate occasions with similar experiences while I have also had some stellar times there.
So I decided to try anal for the first time, as it always intrigued me but wifey (and partners before her) were not interested.
I'm going to be in Zurich later this year, so decided to pull the plug.
How would you recommend I do it?
Is Globe the right place? Maybe escort is better? Or otherwise?
Would love to hear from your experience.
So I decided to try anal for the first time, as it always intrigued me but wifey (and partners before her) were not interested.
I'm going to be in Zurich later this year, so decided to pull the plug.
How would you recommend I do it?
Is Globe the right place? Maybe escort is better? Or otherwise?
Would love to hear from your experience.Read the anal connoisseurs thread.
So I decided to try anal for the first time, as it always intrigued me but wifey (and partners before her) were not interested.
I'm going to be in Zurich later this year, so decided to pull the plug.
How would you recommend I do it?
Is Globe the right place? Maybe escort is better? Or otherwise?
Would love to hear from your experience.I think there will be a number of options for you as many providers offer this but with extra fees. So, discuss your interest in anal upfront and agree the fee and go try it. Options in Globe and Amesia for sure.
So I decided to try anal for the first time,...Is Globe the right place? Maybe escort is better? Or otherwise?
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I think there will be a number of options for you as many providers offer this but with extra fees. So, discuss your interest in anal upfront and agree the fee and go try it. Options in Globe and Amesia for sure.I'd say going to a place like Globe allows you to decide if you like the girl and if she is willing to do anal. Two distinct questions. You chose and escort who does anal and maybe she's willing but when she comes to the door changes her mind, or it isn't great and you decide to stick to the other options. (sometimes the online escort says yes but you are dealing with a handler so the girl comes to the room and isn't even aware that anal was requested!
Anyway, at Globe you could try one and an hour later try a second. If it's your first time, I'd probably go Globe.
Marelobo Mex
09-02-23, 18:14
I'd say going to a place like Globe allows you to decide if you like the girl and if she is willing to do anal. Two distinct questions. You chose and escort who does anal and maybe she's willing but when she comes to the door changes her mind, or it isn't great and you decide to stick to the other options. (sometimes the online escort says yes but you are dealing with a handler so the girl comes to the room and isn't even aware that anal was requested!
Anyway, at Globe you could try one and an hour later try a second. If it's your first time, I'd probably go Globe.I would go to Globe for anal they make it very easy.
Many guys like this service and the majority of girls offer it, some even consider themselves anal specialists. The girls like it because there is a set extra charge for doing it. If you happen to choose a girl who doesn't want to do it, she will recommend several others girls you should talk to who will happily do it. She may even call over and introduce you.
Finally since these girls do it regularly you will not be hurting them, and they have introduced many guys to anal before. They know how to use the lube and position your bodies so that it works the best.
MM.
I'd say going to a place like Globe allows you to decide if you like the girl and if she is willing to do anal.
I think there will be a number of options for you as many providers
I think there will be a number of options for you as many providers offer this but with extra fees. So, discuss your interest in anal upfront and agree the fee and go try it. Options in Globe and Amesia for sure.Thanks for the quick answers! Wow Globe options won big time. Money wise, it seems also the most expensive:
100 to enter+300 for 1 hour + 200 extra for Anal = 600. It seems for this amount I could have a 1.5-2 hours escort with multiple pops. You don't think this is preferable, assuming I could find a recommended escort who likes Anal? (Maybe someone could recommend one?
Thanks again for helping me optimize this LOL.
I would go to Globe for anal they make it very easy.
Many guys like this service and the majority of girls offer it, some even consider themselves anal specialists. The girls like it because there is a set extra charge for doing it. If you happen to choose a girl who doesn't want to do it, she will recommend several others girls you should talk to who will happily do it. She may even call over and introduce you.
Finally since these girls do it regularly you will not be hurting them, and they have introduced many guys to anal before. They know how to use the lube and position your bodies so that it works the best..Funny, I was never proposed anal at Globe, even for extra 200. Ekaterina listed her Audi options but didn't ask me if I wanted to fuck her ass. Must be matter of size, when I doubt many at Globe could get me deep inside. No regret for me when I want only very classical sex I was used with my girlfriends. On beginning of our discovery, my Rhur German escort also listed her Audi options and anal was for 60 , but when she saw woken up, she never told again. I much preferred making her squirting as she explained me and then asked for months, for free. She was for 180/90 for our many rooms.
Thanks for the quick answers! Wow Globe options won big time. Money wise, it seems also the most expensive:
100 to enter+300 for 1 hour + 200 extra for Anal = 600. It seems for this amount I could have a 1.5-2 hours escort with multiple pops. You don't think this is preferable, assuming I could find a recommended escort who likes Anal? (Maybe someone could recommend one?
Thanks again for helping me optimize this LOL.As Marelobo said and I completely agree. You have a chance to be sure of what you get in Globe rather than escort. And if you do 2 sessions with Anal same day then costs are more palatable.
Thanks for the quick answers! Wow Globe options won big time. Money wise, it seems also the most expensive:
100 to enter+300 for 1 hour + 200 extra for Anal = 600. It seems for this amount I could have a 1.5-2 hours escort with multiple pops. You don't think this is preferable, assuming I could find a recommended escort who likes Anal? (Maybe someone could recommend one?
Thanks again for helping me optimize this LOL.Yes, Globe is much too expensive for now quality. Mostly average looks, many little Romanians, some small pussy. If You are not Asian size don t expect to fuck deep in ass for 10 mn for your 200 CHF. I'm pretty sure most writing here about Globe do only fast 150/30 , when most girls now don t worth more than 150 in bad rooms, but not my standard and I prefer 150/90 with she would be the most elegant at Globe and real GFE, she seemed really happy I took her 3 months break virginity, at Sharks. You can have anal for 100 or less in Germany. I would say with now level, Globe rates are for tourists or those who are stuck to Zurich. I remember a smart Asian, living in Zurich city, but taking train to Freubad SO, telling me: why to pay more expensive for lower quality.
As Marelobo said and I completely agree. You have a chance to be sure of what you get in Globe rather than escort. And if you do 2 sessions with Anal same day then costs are more palatable.Yep, indeed escort without a sure recommendation wouldn't work, and Globe will be a sure thing, I agree. BTW, looking at the globe site, it was hard for me to find any girl in todays plan who lists Anal in her services. I wonder if this is just something most of the girls stopped offering, or if its something they don't want to list on the site.
Anyone knows?
Yes, Globe is much too expensive for now quality. Mostly average looks, many little Romanians, some small pussy. If You are not Asian size don t expect to fuck deep in ass for 10 mn for your 200 CHF. I'm pretty sure most writing here about Globe do only fast 150/30 , when most girls now don t worth more than 150 in bad rooms Thats sad to read. Unfortunately I will only be in Zurich, so checking my options just there.
And traveling 1 hour by train to Freubad and 1 hour back, for 1 or 2 sessions (I don't think I would last for more than 2 in 1 evening) is likely not worth the 100 CHF I would save.
Thats sad to read. Unfortunately I will only be in Zurich, so checking my options just there.
And traveling 1 hour by train to Freubad and 1 hour back, for 1 or 2 sessions (I don't think I would last for more than 2 in 1 evening) is likely not worth the 100 CHF I would save.Little brother Swiss west Zurich Dietikon is better value than Globe. Call to ask who can provide anal, if they know.
PaulInZurich
09-04-23, 11:44
Thats sad to read. Unfortunately I will only be in Zurich, so checking my options just there.
And traveling 1 hour by train to Freubad and 1 hour back, for 1 or 2 sessions (I don't think I would last for more than 2 in 1 evening) is likely not worth the 100 CHF I would save.Zurich main train station to Freubad is 1.5 hours one way.
Little brother Swiss west Zurich Dietikon is better value than Globe. Call to ask who can provide anal, if they know.Thanks, I'll check it out. Any girl there you would recommend personally?
Thanks, I'll check it out. Any girl there you would recommend personally?I treat girls like my girlfriend for my way for sex, the most enjoyable for me, I m not interested by anal. I tried at Wellcum on 2016 with a real Italian very woman type, I prepared her for 10 mn with 3 fingers, but could never go deep inside, waste of money. At Oase on 2014 , after less than 1 mn and only half entering, Melissa who still works, was screaming: You kill my ass, I stopped, waste of money. I hate to waste my money, reason why I don t pay anymore Globe entry, when too expensive for looks and quality now. When also hearing Freubad manager, we may not have same standard for quality for a French like me and Swiss brothels, even for me some higher level girls at Freubad than Globe and for less expensive. Germany is better value when less expensive and higher level for me. But I m a very different bad French guy, specialist to meet same girls weekly, when I find only very few attractive.
I'll be visiting Zurich next week. I've been hearing about the FKK experience in Germany and I'd like to have a taste of it. What is the closest decent FKK in Germany to Zurich?
I'll be visiting Zurich next week. I've been hearing about the FKK experience in Germany and I'd like to have a taste of it. What is the closest decent FKK in Germany to Zurich?No good German FKK close to swiss border when Zurich is not on border. Frankfurt is 3 big hours driving. Swiss club closest to level in Germany is Freubad 1 hour driving from Zurich but not at best on this Summer even some good girls like Melisa, Zayra, Rubi, pretty Eda.
Nooky Ninja
09-06-23, 10:56
I'll be visiting Zurich next week. I've been hearing about the FKK experience in Germany and I'd like to have a taste of it. What is the closest decent FKK in Germany to Zurich?Here is map of all - https://www.fkk24.de/fkk-saunaclubs.
You have to decide what is "close" and "decent". Club Imperia near Konstanz (never been), maybe. But obviously better bigger clubs near the bigger cities. Large German FKK section on ISG. But to really experience it, you need to be there like 3-5 hours in evening. That means realistically overnight. So you could go within maybe 3 hour train ride radius-Freiburg, Augsburg etc. Up to you.
Here is map of all - https://www.fkk24.de/fkk-saunaclubs.
You have to decide what is "close" and "decent". Club Imperia near Konstanz (never been), maybe. But obviously better bigger clubs near the bigger cities. Large German FKK section on ISG. But to really experience it, you need to be there like 3-5 hours in evening. That means realistically overnight. So you could go within maybe 3 hour train ride radius-Freiburg, Augsburg etc. Up to you.Thanks a lot for all the useful advices. Does anyone know anything about FKK club Aphrodite:
http://www.aphrodite-vs.de/
It seems to be not far away from Zurich and has decent reviews on google.
Nooky Ninja
09-08-23, 10:03
Thanks a lot for all the useful advices. Does anyone know anything about FKK club Aphrodite:
http://www.aphrodite-vs.de/ It seems to be not far away from Zurich and has decent reviews on google.Ah-G reviews mostly very old, and seem suspect. Club website very amaturish. Nothing on ISG threads. German reviews difficult to find. Never been. Never would.
You must factor in probably over 100 Euro / CHF just in train travel. Good luck, report back.
I've got a layover in Zurich, long enough to leave airport. Unfortunately, its from 6:30 am to 1 pm. Any good options that early in the day, like a 24 HR laufhaus? FKK style places aren't open until later, and I'll need to have some time to get back to the airport and catch a connecting flight.
I've got a layover in Zurich, long enough to leave airport. Unfortunately, its from 6:30 am to 1 pm. Any good options that early in the day, like a 24 HR laufhaus? FKK style places aren't open until later, and I'll need to have some time to get back to the airport and catch a connecting flight.From earlier this year:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=2826287&viewfull=1#post2826287
From earlier this year:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=2826287&viewfull=1#post2826287Thanks Samplerr.
The situation at other clubs also suggests that finding supermodel-like girls is rare in any FKK ClubYes, but even if there is a 1-in-1000 chance of finding one; rich men will come.
I lived 20 years in SoHo NYC and 7 years in Hollywood; both model / actress capitals; but Aphro / Globe both produced half of the Top 10 hottest girls I banged.
A young beautiful girl posting on social media. Her inbox is full of messages of men willing to spoil her and pay her absurd amount of money.This works both way; there is a point at which they get too many messages and can't filter the valuable ones: 0 messages and 1 million have same value.
Same thing happened with 1-800 sex chat lines, VHS, Porn films, internet porn, etc.
There is an an endless supply of 18 year old every 12 months and competition just increases.
At some point the values of DMs or PpC clicks will fall to $0.0001 and they will have to return to real world for gold standard of $100/ fuck which has lasted for centuries (inflation adjusted).
When US are really not on highest level for looks, far below Russia and even Europe. My only in 10 FKK land top looks at Globe would be Megan with her look in Germany, prettier there, when Linda. De was average face for me. Kate was a woman with charm.
PaulInZurich
10-20-23, 10:56
Yes, but even if there is a 1-in-1000 chance of finding one; rich men will come.
I lived 20 years in SoHo NYC and 7 years in Hollywood; both model / actress capitals; but Aphro / Globe both produced half of the Top 10 hottest girls I banged.The most undeniable truth. Hot women will be where the men with a lot of money are.
The most undeniable truth. Hot women will be where the men with a lot of money are.In Western Europe, there are very beautiful great women who don't only run after money. Some prefer to feel valuated and be happy. Each one own experience.
PaulInZurich
10-22-23, 10:49
In my opinion the problem with Club Swiss is that the lineup barely changes. Westside and Palace are much better at having new girls on the plan.
I don't quite understand the reasoning, from what I know Torsten manages both Swiss and Westside, but it seems that they are managed differently.
For those looking for a deeper experience, I was recently in Zurich and visited the Andana spa for two TEM (Taoist Erotic Massage) sessions.
Highly recommended. This type massage is to your traditional 'happy ending' massages what a gourmet five-star restaurant is to McDonald's. More pleasure over 1. 5 hours than I thought I could experience.
Opened up a whole new universe of sexual experiences for me, and I'm in the process of introducing my wife to its juicy possibilities.
For those looking for a deeper experience, I was recently in Zurich and visited the Andana spa for two TEM (Taoist Erotic Massage) sessions.
Highly recommended. This type massage is to your traditional 'happy ending' massages what a gourmet five-star restaurant is to McDonald's. More pleasure over 1. 5 hours than I thought I could experience.
Opened up a whole new universe of sexual experiences for me, and I'm in the process of introducing my wife to its juicy possibilities.What is the fee for service? It's not clear on the website. And it says a 100 CHF deposit in person 24 hrs before service. What is that all about?
What is the fee for service? It's not clear on the website. And it says a 100 CHF deposit in person 24 hrs before service. What is that all about?270 CHF for an hour, and 370 for 1. 5 hours. I'd recommend at least 1. 5 hours to really get into it. They only take cash BTW.
On the 100 CHF deposit, they didn't ask me for it. Sounds impractical, and can't imagine that they're implementing it.
May be an odd question, and apologies if it's been asked / answered before but do clubs like Amesia, Globe etc allow women to enter as paying guests. Either alone, or with a partner? I ask, because one of my GF would love to visit one sometime with me to have threesome.
May be an odd question, and apologies if it's been asked / answered before but do clubs like Amesia, Globe etc allow women to enter as paying guests. Either alone, or with a partner? I ask, because one of my GF would love to visit one sometime with me to have threesome.I don't know for these specific places, but in the club I go the most (the Freubad near Bern), there is a couple that visits often and I know that they do sometimes rooms with girls. I don't know the exact details, but I suppose the scenario has to be discussed with the girl before. They seem to be around 50-60's so it might also influence the situation. I don't know how the clubs would react if you bring a young sexy woman that could be confused with a WG.
May be an odd question, and apologies if it's been asked / answered before but do clubs like Amesia, Globe etc allow women to enter as paying guests. Either alone, or with a partner? I ask, because one of my GF would love to visit one sometime with me to have threesome.Globe does not allow it. Swiss does. Not sure about the others around Zurich and to stay on the safe side best to call them ahead of time.
I don't know for these specific places, but in the club I go the most (the Freubad near Bern), there is a couple that visits often and I know that they do sometimes rooms with girls. I don't know the exact details, but I suppose the scenario has to be discussed with the girl before. They seem to be around 50-60's so it might also influence the situation. I don't know how the clubs would react if you bring a young sexy woman that could be confused with a WG.I confirm the couple at Freubad. SO. Unfortunately, she is not pretty, but friendly.
May I know whether Andana Massage provides full service sex? Their official website said not offer a sexual exchange in the form of sexual intercourse or oral sex. Thanks.
For those looking for a deeper experience, I was recently in Zurich and visited the Andana spa for two TEM (Taoist Erotic Massage) sessions.
Highly recommended. This type massage is to your traditional 'happy ending' massages what a gourmet five-star restaurant is to McDonald's. More pleasure over 1. 5 hours than I thought I could experience.
Opened up a whole new universe of sexual experiences for me, and I'm in the process of introducing my wife to its juicy possibilities.
The Bitcci Group has engineering another restart for the FKK Neuenhof located next to Baden, 20 km west of Zurich. There have been many (failed) previous attempts to manage this renovated club that was supposed to be a direct competition wit the FKK Swiss in Dietikon. This time the former manager from the Freubad (Gabriel) has been moved (downgraded?) there. He seems to be able to attract some (rather good looking IMO) girls that have a (very) good reputation at Freubad like Sasha, Eliza, Alba or more recently Zayra. The main questions are: will these women get enough earnings to keep working there? Will the manager stay in this small club (the 6 profi rumor mill was mentioning a possible transfer to the Imperium gang)?
The Bitcci Group has engineering another restart for the FKK Neuenhof located next to Baden, 20 km west of Zurich. There have been many (failed) previous attempts to manage this renovated club that was supposed to be a direct competition wit the FKK Swiss in Dietikon. This time the former manager from the Freubad (Gabriel) has been moved (downgraded?) there. He seems to be able to attract some (rather good looking IMO) girls that have a (very) good reputation at Freubad like Sasha, Eliza, Alba or more recently Zayra. The main questions are: will these women get enough earnings to keep working there? Will the manager stay in this small club (the 6 profi rumor mill was mentioning a possible transfer to the Imperium gang)?Even I didn t feel attraction on August after a bad Gran San Bernardino 2473 , but Zayra would be a superstar at Globe, but she knows Imperium and doesn t like public sex. Silicon blond Sasha was Anita at both GT Vienna and Bruggen. De.
The Bitcci Group has engineering another restart for the FKK Neuenhof located next to Baden, 20 km west of Zurich. There have been many (failed) previous attempts to manage this renovated club that was supposed to be a direct competition wit the FKK Swiss in Dietikon. This time the former manager from the Freubad (Gabriel) has been moved (downgraded?) there. He seems to be able to attract some (rather good looking IMO) girls that have a (very) good reputation at Freubad like Sasha, Eliza, Alba or more recently Zayra. The main questions are: will these women get enough earnings to keep working there? Will the manager stay in this small club (the 6 profi rumor mill was mentioning a possible transfer to the Imperium gang)?It would be nice if this club stays consistent with optics and quality. It's much more convenient to central Zurich than the other Bitcci clubs like Freubad. The infamous super-soaker Issa (Ex LR, Ex Sakura) was working at this club a couple months ago before the renovation and renaming, but I don't think she's there anymore and am not sure where she went.
PaulInZurich
01-22-24, 16:43
... another restart for the FKK Neuenhof located next to Baden, 20 km west of Zurich.The club is decent but only 5 girls in the lineup is not enough to compete with Swiss. I hope they they rotate more girls from Freubad / Cleo there, even though most girls prefer a home base.
The club has potential especially for the summer and the location is good, just 5 minutes from the train station. Fingers crossed that they succeed.
It would be nice if this club stays consistent with optics and quality. It's much more convenient to central Zurich than the other Bitcci clubs like Freubad. The infamous super-soaker Issa (Ex LR, Ex Sakura) was working at this club a couple months ago before the renovation and renaming, but I don't think she's there anymore and am not sure where she went.Squirting, claiming to be Spanish Issa? Zayra is much prettier and pretty sure more sweet GFE if you have the way.
ShoesAndSocks
01-22-24, 21:30
It would be nice if this club stays consistent with optics and quality. It's much more convenient to central Zurich than the other Bitcci clubs like Freubad.
The Bitcci Group has engineering another restart for the FKK Neuenhof located next to Baden, 20 km west of Zurich.When I look at the BITCCI group website now, I see no mention of clubs whatsoever, existing or future fantasies. Seems that for all their talk of developing premium mega clubs, all they ever did was develop a few websites for the Freubad et al chain.
When I look at the BITCCI group website now, I see no mention of clubs whatsoever.You are right. Talking about the "Bitcci Group" is just a more convenient (and historical?) way to name in the forum "The network of clubs that is competing with the Imperium".
PaulInZurich
01-23-24, 09:36
some (rather good looking IMO) girls that have a (very) good reputation at Freubad like Sasha, Eliza, Alba or more recently Zayra. Fotos at Freubad for Zayra are significantly different from the fotos at Neuenhof. I see that now at Neuenhof in general they put fotos more selfie style instead of the heavy photoshopped ones.
Nooky Ninja
02-04-24, 11:38
https://www.xdate.ch/de/zurich-franziska-609360
Franzika's ad showed MILF type early 40's large boobs. Started to make an appointment 2 days before via WA. Everything was fine. Day of date, I wrote 6 hours before to confirm. All OK. I arrived at the door, was told to wait 5 minutes. Then the apartment floor and details came. I arrived and was greeted by an early 20's girl. She said Franziska was not there today. Then another young girl came and said I could choose. I said bullshit and was really angry. A termin was confirmed 3 times and now clearly all lies. Don't waste your time.
Hi everybody,
I've not seen much discussion of Club Aphrodisa in Zurich. Has anyone been?
I went 20+ years ago, and one of the most beautiful working girls from south america was there.
I had a great time, but don't remember much else about it. Was considering going this summer.
PaulInZurich
04-16-24, 06:37
So Club Rouge in Zuerich Oerlikon which was closed for a long time was renovated and then reopened in the summer of 2022 as Medusa. It belonged to the Aphro. Amesia chain and lasted 2 weeks I think.
Well, they open again on 26 April.
Summary:
Entry 69 until 8 pm for wellness.
Entry 29 after 8 pm in street clothes possible.
30 min for CHF 150.
On 6 profi they claim new management and 30 - 40 WGs on the opening day, which is definitely bullshit.
I think it's unlikely it's a brand new provider. I believe it would make sense for the Freubad chain to get a Zurich location, but will only know end of next week when they put up the Tagesplan.
Hi everybody,
I've not seen much discussion of Club Aphrodisa in Zurich. Has anyone been?
I went 20+ years ago, and one of the most beautiful working girls from south america was there.
I had a great time, but don't remember much else about it. Was considering going this summer.I wish there would be more reviews of this place too. I have been several times last year and the year before. The main takeaway is that it's not really back to its pre-covid strength in terms of quality or quantity. If you visit in the early hours or slow days you will find less than 10 girls milling about. The prime time hours will be full, but I noticed that the average age of the women is slightly higher than what I remember. Overall the service, price and vibe remains the same. Still a solid option. We all can hope that quality of women will approve this year.
I wish there would be more reviews of this place too. I have been several times last year and the year before. The main takeaway is that it's not really back to its pre-covid strength in terms of quality or quantity. If you visit in the early hours or slow days you will find less than 10 girls milling about. The prime time hours will be full, but I noticed that the average age of the women is slightly higher than what I remember. Overall the service, price and vibe remains the same. Still a solid option. We all can hope that quality of women will approve this year.You mean improve? For quality.
I wish there would be more reviews of this place too. I have been several times last year and the year before. The main takeaway is that it's not really back to its pre-covid strength in terms of quality or quantity. If you visit in the early hours or slow days you will find less than 10 girls milling about. The prime time hours will be full, but I noticed that the average age of the women is slightly higher than what I remember. Overall the service, price and vibe remains the same. Still a solid option. We all can hope that quality of women will approve this year.This time I can not give you 100% reliable info, because I have been mainly abroad over the last 4/5 months and I was forced to take a long pause from visiting clubs; however, in my first visit in 2024, I saw a good level and some very tasty new girls. Even if I am very picky, I counted at least 6/7 girls with whom I would very happily have had a roll in the hay. We are still very far from the golden age, that will never come back, but at least the clubs of the Zurich area are showing sign of improvements.
So Club Rouge in Zuerich Oerlikon which was closed for a long time was renovated and then reopened in the summer of 2022 as Medusa. It belonged to the Aphro. Amesia chain and lasted 2 weeks I think.
Well, they open again on 26 April.
Summary:
Entry 69 until 8 pm for wellness.
Entry 29 after 8 pm in street clothes possible.
30 min for CHF 150.
On 6 profi they claim new management and 30 - 40 WGs on the opening day, which is definitely bullshit.
I think it's unlikely it's a brand new provider. I believe it would make sense for the Freubad chain to get a Zurich location, but will only know end of next week when they put up the Tagesplan.I am very curious to see how this club will perform; looking at the offer, they can be a dangerous competitor for all the current players, but I would say that the main target is Amesia. Even if the location is easily reachable, the facilities (room, bar, wellness area) are by far the best in town, the prices reasonable, the quality of girls, in terms of beauty and performance, will be the only factor that will tell whether the club survives or not.
The club has disappeared from the banners in the Aphrodisia chain, but who is behind is still unknown (the enemy of Ingo and owner of Freubad chain? The former owner of the Blue Opera? Other?
I'll check it out for sure, as the old club Rouge was an excellent alternative to the two main clubs; few girls, but there were always some true pearls. My gut feelings is that there is no room for another club in the area of Zurich, so I expect some kind of fierce competition. The risk is that some good girls may leave Zurich due a decline in the business, making the offer poorer.
Let's see how it develops.
GuyBrusg1957
04-19-24, 13:13
Hi everybody,
I've not seen much discussion of Club Aphrodisa in Zurich. Has anyone been?
I went 20+ years ago, and one of the most beautiful working girls from south america was there.
I had a great time, but don't remember much else about it. Was considering going this summer.I was there a few years back after the pandemic and it exists. Supposedly, it's not as good as but the women are beautiful with something for everyone. It is not cheap and you will need to have deep pockets. One thing I will say is that the talent is pretty set on business and there isn't much chit chat which is a bit robotic. I prefer the clubs outside the city since they're more affordable, bigger with less pressure and feels bit more normal.
Hi Gentlemen,
When you travel to Frankfurt (for example), you have a choice: if you do not like "bahnhof"-like atmosphere of Sharks, then you can visit smaller clubs which can offer you more authentic FKK experience.
But when you travel to Zurich area, the first option is Globe, which is undeniably 'iconic' place. But what are the other options? If to search on Google Maps the area around Dubendorf (for example), there are a few smaller clubs of all kinds. But do they actually operate? Does it worth to visit them? Is there anything what makes them 'special' or unique?
What is your rating of clubs in wider Zurich area and why?
Hi Gentlemen,
When you travel to Frankfurt (for example), you have a choice: if you do not like "bahnhof"-like atmosphere of Sharks, then you can visit smaller clubs which can offer you more authentic FKK experience.
But when you travel to Zurich area, the first option is Globe, which is undeniably 'iconic' place. But what are the other options? If to search on Google Maps the area around Dubendorf (for example), there are a few smaller clubs of all kinds. But do they actually operate? Does it worth to visit them? Is there anything what makes them 'special' or unique?
What is your rating of clubs in wider Zurich area and why?Amesia is very different than Globe and I find girls are more elegant. Swiss West Zurich is better value than Globe which is now too expensive for down quality.
PaulInZurich
04-22-24, 10:55
The Swiss forums say that the girls are primarily ex Freubad.
The Swiss forums say that the girls are primarily ex Freubad.Medusa?
There are a few photos of girls on the website. I have a hotel booking in Oerlikon next time by pure chance. May take a chance if reports are decent enough.
PaulInZurich
04-22-24, 18:30
Medusa?Sorry, yes, Medusa.
Website: https://medusa.ch.
Summary of the information from the Swiss German forums and my own sources to complete at PaulInZurich information.
The owner / manager of the Medusa is Gabriel who was the manager of the Freubad during 2023. Difficult to judge its performance at the Freubad has he inherited a line-up that was assembled by his predecessor Torsten. With maybe two exceptions, there were no new repeating great additions to the line-up in 2023, but the overall context was not great either (that is many great girls come but didn't stay because of the low number of customers).
We have to be cautious with the current Medusa line-up. Since it was live, both the Freubad and the Globe groups have threaten their girls that they could not work with them anymore if they moved to the Medusa. Some were expelled from their current clubs the same day, so there might be girls waiting on the sideline until the official opening because they still want to earn some money at their current location. Gabriel has tried to recruit in the Freubad line-up, but I recognize clearly only 3 girls (Iris, Eva and Natasha) from the "standard" Freubad lineup. Eliza might also have been briefly at the Freubad and in the Neuenhof. Forums say that some of the girls also could come from the Swiss Club (where Eva had already moved from Freubad early April).
A concern with the Medusa for both customers and girls is the low number of rooms available vs the number of girls. I can see also on their website that the girls can decide the services they provide. If this is really implemented, I think that this deviation from the standard "full service" provided by other clubs will not be popular as Swiss generally don't like to negotiate or to have bad surprises and nobody to complain to. For the same price, I will prefer to go to the Globe. Furthermore, opening a new club today will be challenging in a context where I hear in every club that the number of customers is lower that what it used to be.
PaulInZurich
04-23-24, 17:38
The owner / manager of the Medusa is Gabriel who was the manager of the Freubad during 2023.A few girls said that he was OK as manager from their point of view.
... he inherited a line-up that..I don't see how a club or a manager would bring new girls to a club, at least not legally. What they can do is to be fair to the girls and then word of mouth brings new girls. Then the girls decide if they stay depending on income vs effort.
both the Freubad and the Globe groups have threaten their girls that they could not work with them anymoreIt was always known that Ingo doesn't allow girls to work for the competition in Switzerland (I think Germany or Austria are OK). Depending on the girl, some could return sooner, some later, some never. I didn't know Freubad chain does the same.
opening a new club today will be challenging in a context where I hear in every club that the number of customers is lower that what it used to be.Yeah, it's more or less the same clients. In one of his videos I think Ingo said that a new club can't expect to make money in the first 6 months.
I don't see how a club or a manager would bring new girls to a club, at least not legally. What they can do is to be fair to the girls and then word of mouth brings new girls.
It was always known that Ingo doesn't allow girls to work for the competition in Switzerland (I think Germany or Austria are OK). Depending on the girl, some could return sooner, some later, some never. I didn't know Freubad chain does the same.Off course the girls can decide when they work, but a good manager can also influence the recruitment and the fact that girls stay. If you keep too many girls for the number of customers like he did, of course many good recruits tried Freubad for some days and then left.
When Torsten transferred to the Westside at the end of 2022, some of the Freubad girls moved with him and are still working between Swiss and Westside. At that time the Freubad was telling that girls going to an Imperium club could not come back. However at the beginning of this year, I saw many girls moving back and forth between Freubad, Swiss and Palace. So maybe Ingo watches for the move of Globe girls, but in the satellites club, there seems to be currently no such restriction of movement.
Website: https://medusa.ch.
Summary of the information from the Swiss German forums and my own sources to complete at PaulInZurich information.
The owner / manager of the Medusa is Gabriel who was the manager of the Freubad during 2023. Difficult to judge its performance at the Freubad has he inherited a line-up that was assembled by his predecessor Torsten. With maybe two exceptions, there were no new repeating great additions to the line-up in 2023, but the overall context was not great either (that is many great girls come but didn't stay because of the low number of customers).
We have to be cautious with the current Medusa line-up. Since it was live, both the Freubad and the Globe groups have threaten their girls that they could not work with them anymore if they moved to the Medusa. Some were expelled from their current clubs the same day, so there might be girls waiting on the sideline until the official opening because they still want to earn some money at their current location. Gabriel has tried to recruit in the Freubad line-up, but I recognize clearly only 3 girls (Iris, Eva and Natasha) from the "standard" Freubad lineup. Eliza might also have been briefly at the Freubad and in the Neuenhof. Forums say that some of the girls also could come from the Swiss Club (where Eva had already moved from Freubad early April).
A concern with the Medusa for both customers and girls is the low number of rooms available vs the number of girls. I can see also on their website that the girls can decide the services they provide. If this is really implemented, I think that this deviation from the standard "full service" provided by other clubs will not be popular as Swiss generally don't like to negotiate or to have bad surprises and nobody to complain to. For the same price, I will prefer to go to the Globe. Furthermore, opening a new club today will be challenging in a context where I hear in every club that the number of customers is lower that what it used to be.Freubad manager on 2023 after Torsten made falling Freubad which was not anymore on Summer 2022 level. Pity and should not improve for girls quality with now Albanian. Zaira moves between Imperium and BITCCI.
PaulInZurich
04-24-24, 04:15
A concern with the Medusa for both customers and girls is the low number of rooms available vs the number of girls. Ex Club Rouge clients say the club has 8 rooms.
Ex Club Rouge clients say the club has 8 rooms.Probably correct, I remember a limited number of rooms.
Franz, the owner of the Aphrodisia chain, renovated the clubs before his failed attempt to position Medusa in the higher segment of the market: how many rooms are there now, it is difficult to guess, even if the presence of two suites makes me believe that today they maybe even fewer.
Besides, the rooms were very large; just to give an idea, at least two rooms (with showers and Jacuzzi) could contain more or less 4/5 Globe rooms of the ground floor (no joke). Therefore, there could be room of maneuver to split some rooms and increase the numbers, but the presence of the two suites, the rooms with Jacuzzi and the overall area of the building will anyhow put a limit.
Here it is the potential problem of Medusa; whatever they do, it'll remain a niche club. If it is enough to survive, I do not know, As a fan of the former Club Rouge, I wish them all the best, even if I remain skeptical.
Website: https://medusa.ch.
Summary of the information from the Swiss German forums and my own sources to complete at PaulInZurich information.
The owner / manager of the Medusa is Gabriel who was the manager of the Freubad during 2023. Difficult to judge its performance at the Freubad has he inherited a line-up that was assembled by his predecessor Torsten. With maybe two exceptions, there were no new repeating great additions to the line-up in 2023, but the overall context was not great either (that is many great girls come but didn't stay because of the low number of customers).
We have to be cautious with the current Medusa line-up. Since it was live, both the Freubad and the Globe groups have threaten their girls that they could not work with them anymore if they moved to the Medusa. Some were expelled from their current clubs the same day, so there might be girls waiting on the sideline until the official opening because they still want to earn some money at their current location. Gabriel has tried to recruit in the Freubad line-up, but I recognize clearly only 3 girls (Iris, Eva and Natasha) from the "standard" Freubad lineup. Eliza might also have been briefly at the Freubad and in the Neuenhof. Forums say that some of the girls also could come from the Swiss Club (where Eva had already moved from Freubad early April).
A concern with the Medusa for both customers and girls is the low number of rooms available vs the number of girls. I can see also on their website that the girls can decide the services they provide. If this is really implemented, I think that this deviation from the standard "full service" provided by other clubs will not be popular as Swiss generally don't like to negotiate or to have bad surprises and nobody to complain to. For the same price, I will prefer to go to the Globe. Furthermore, opening a new club today will be challenging in a context where I hear in every club that the number of customers is lower that what it used to be.I heard through the grapevine (so take it with a grain of salt) that Gabriel is just a figurehead; in the reality, behind him there is the owner of Freubad. The rumor has some ground, as a new club now is a very risky investment and the owner must be ready to accept losing money in the beginning; one has to have wide shoulder to make such investment.
A mystery is the strategy of Franz; either he believes that Medusa will fail very soon or his move, to allow a new competitor in his market, appears incomprehensible.
I heard through the grapevine (so take it with a grain of salt) that Gabriel is just a figurehead; in the reality, behind him there is the owner of Freubad. The rumor has some ground, as a new club now is a very risky investment and the owner must be ready to accept losing money in the beginning; one has to have wide shoulder to make such investment.
A mystery is the strategy of Franz; either he believes that Medusa will fail very soon or his move, to allow a new competitor in his market, appears incomprehensible.So, belonging to BITICI? When they own in West Zurich and West Dusseldorf. De. Globe rooms are really low level for 150/30, when I m not a 30 mn guy and then room quality improve or lower time spent with the girl.
PaulInZurich
04-26-24, 05:27
I wish them all the best, even if I remain skeptical.Same, I hope they survive bringing an additional talent pipeline to Zurich.
PaulInZurich
05-06-24, 08:33
TLDR The club is a disappointment.
From advertised 30 - 40 girls down to 22 when they opened, now down to 12. I have seen 18 out of the initial 22, there were 3 maybes for me, but didn't get a good vibe. Girls very passive and complaining that it's not busy. Left without a room, just like 3 other guys I know.
I'll give it some time until the lineup stabilizes and try one more time in a few weeks.
TLDR The club is a disappointment.
From advertised 30 - 40 girls down to 22 when they opened, now down to 12. I have seen 18 out of the initial 22, there were 3 maybes for me, but didn't get a good vibe. Girls very passive and complaining that it's not busy. Left without a room, just like 3 other guys I know.
I'll give it some time until the lineup stabilizes and try one more time in a few weeks.Thanks a lot for the report and saves me a trip to try it out.
A shame though because competition would be good for us.
PaulInZurich
05-24-24, 07:45
Thanks a lot for the report and saves me a trip to try it out.
A shame though because competition would be good for us.No signs that the club is doing better so far.
Not only they were offering package deals with discounts after the first week, now entry is free after 4 pm. It's not entirely clear, since one banner says starting 27 May entry free 16 - 4 and another older banner below says entry CHF 29 after 20. Based on the first banner it seems as well that they only open at 4 pm. Today, on a Friday, 8 girls on the Tagesplan.
StarletVoyager
06-10-24, 16:17
Thinking to visit globe 2nd time after a great experience in 2010. I need recommendations for a good budget hotel in zurich thanks. The prices I'm seeing are high.
Thinking to visit globe 2nd time after a great experience in 2010. I need recommendations for a good budget hotel in zurich thanks. The prices I'm seeing are high.The prices are high because it's Zürich where everything is expensive. You may have to adjust your expectation.
ShoesAndSocks
06-10-24, 18:52
Thinking to visit globe 2nd time after a great experience in 2010. I need recommendations for a good budget hotel in zurich thanks. The prices I'm seeing are high.On recent visits I've stayed at the Hotel Allegra Lodge in Kloten. Reasonable price, 30 min on the train to Globe, changing at Oerlikon. Rooms have TV with English channels, a small fridge (supermarket nearby). Right on the tracks near Kloten station but sound-proofed so you don't hear a thing. Buses to the airport in under 10 minutes. For an extra CHF 25 you can get early check-in from 9am which is great if you arrive early in the morning.
There is also a new Zleep Hotel opening up soon on the other side of the tracks in Kloten. Looks like basic modern rooms at very low prices for Zurich. Not sure of the exact opening date, but looks like rooms are available from mid-July.
I've also tried the Hotel Wartmann in Winterthur. Works out to a 30 min train trip to Globe, and the rooms have very good air-conditioning which I find is rare in a lot of Swiss hotels. It really paid off last year in a late-August heat wave. Includes a very nice breakfast, and once again some English TV channels. All rooms used to have a small fridge, but since Covid it now seems only some do and it's a bit random if you get one or not.
Thinking to visit globe 2nd time after a great experience in 2010. I need recommendations for a good budget hotel in zurich thanks. The prices I'm seeing are high.https://www.ihg.com/crowneplaza/hotels/us/en/zurich/zrhha/hoteldetail
< CHF 150 / nt.
See my recent trip report for details.
Same prices as in 2014.
Best times to stay are Late Oct- Early Dec.
American here. Will be making my first trip to Zurich in early September. Experienced with the escort scene in USA and have presence on USA sexguide and other forums.
Will be in Zurich for 24 hours before leaving for a couple of weeks hiking in Alps. Would like some company during my time in Zurich but not really interested in the FKK scene and would prefer an outcall to my hotel (Marriott Zurich).
Only thing I see are some agency ads with pretty high prices (900/1000 CHF). Seems kind of high for unknown quality. In US, 500 gets you pretty high quality. Not opposed to more if multiple hours or could confirm quality.
If anyone could point me to sites where ladies advertise or have recommendations I would appreciate it. Or if any ladies read this and want to reach out that would be great. I general prefer women who are height / weight proportionate and have a good attitude. Otherwise I like all kinds.
Thanks for any help. Also, if there is anything I need to know about escort protocol in Zurich please let me now.
American here. Will be making my first trip to Zurich in early September. Experienced with the escort scene in USA and have presence on USA sexguide and other forums.
Will be in Zurich for 24 hours before leaving for a couple of weeks hiking in Alps. Would like some company during my time in Zurich but not really interested in the FKK scene and would prefer an outcall to my hotel (Marriott Zurich).
Only thing I see are some agency ads with pretty high prices (900/1000 CHF). Seems kind of high for unknown quality. In US, 500 gets you pretty high quality. Not opposed to more if multiple hours or could confirm quality.
If anyone could point me to sites where ladies advertise or have recommendations I would appreciate it. Or if any ladies read this and want to reach out that would be great. I general prefer women who are height / weight proportionate and have a good attitude. Otherwise I like all kinds.
Thanks for any help. Also, if there is anything I need to know about escort protocol in Zurich please let me now.You can have all girls shown on the Club Globe website as escort, than at least you know you get the girl you orderd and very good service. But as you already noticed, it is very expensive, so why not take the plunge and go to this (or other) club? Globe is easily reached from Zurich (<5 minutes walk from the train station). You get decent drinks and food and then can see for yourself which of the 40-60 girls present fits your requirements. One hour of very good sex sets you back 300 CHF and you can decide to go for next girl also.
Would never spend a lot of money on an escort you did not see before and services are unpredictable up front.
Thanks for your input. Under the Globe thread in this forum, recent reviews have not been positive as to quality or attitude of girls at Globe but I will reconsider.
You can have all girls shown on the Club Globe website as escort, than at least you know you get the girl you orderd and very good service. But as you already noticed, it is very expensive, so why not take the plunge and go to this (or other) club? Globe is easily reached from Zurich (<5 minutes walk from the train station). You get decent drinks and food and then can see for yourself which of the 40-60 girls present fits your requirements. One hour of very good sex sets you back 300 CHF and you can decide to go for next girl also.
Would never spend a lot of money on an escort you did not see before and services are unpredictable up front.
American here. Will be making my first trip to Zurich in early September. Experienced with the escort scene in USA and have presence on USA sexguide and other forums.
Will be in Zurich for 24 hours before leaving for a couple of weeks hiking in Alps. Would like some company during my time in Zurich but not really interested in the FKK scene and would prefer an outcall to my hotel (Marriott Zurich).
Only thing I see are some agency ads with pretty high prices (900/1000 CHF). Seems kind of high for unknown quality. In US, 500 gets you pretty high quality. Not opposed to more if multiple hours or could confirm quality.
If anyone could point me to sites where ladies advertise or have recommendations I would appreciate it. Or if any ladies read this and want to reach out that would be great. I general prefer women who are height / weight proportionate and have a good attitude. Otherwise I like all kinds.
Thanks for any help. Also, if there is anything I need to know about escort protocol in Zurich please let me now.I agree with the suggestion of Maxime.
I would never use an escort agency, too risky at 360 degrees; the girl may look very different than the pictures and the performances may be disappointing.
I suggest you go either to Aphrodisia (contact bar) or to Globe (FKK) , the two best clubs, have a look at the girls, select one you like, try to understand if between you and the girl there is a bit of chemistry, agree on the services and then take her to your hotel; I am not sure on Globe prices (I have heard that if you take a girl out, you have to pay a fee to the club), those of Aphrodisia are advertised on the web site.
You can have all girls shown on the Club Globe website as escort, than at least you know you get the girl you orderd and very good service. But as you already noticed, it is very expensive, so why not take the plunge and go to this (or other) club? Globe is easily reached from Zurich (<5 minutes walk from the train station). You get decent drinks and food and then can see for yourself which of the 40-60 girls present fits your requirements. One hour of very good sex sets you back 300 CHF and you can decide to go for next girl also.
Would never spend a lot of money on an escort you did not see before and services are unpredictable up front.Globe girls tend to only go out escort with men they already know from the club. I doubt many Globe girls will agree to blind dates outside the club. Plus Globe girls will very likely insist on a 3-5 hour minimum booking to compensate for lost revenue in the club. Aphrodisia is more inline with what the American might be looking for. Drop into a discrete bar with working girls already lined up. See one you like and pay the house for the number of hours you want. Incall or outcall makes little difference to them. Having said that, discretion is already pretty good at Aphro so I see no reason to take the girl out unless you are booking a multi-day booking. Anyways, no lack of women in Zurich. I'm sure the American will find his way. No matter how you cut it however, It won't be cheap. Zurich is the wrong city for cheap. USD500 wont get you very far, thats a quickie in Globe or Aphro and certainly wont get a girl to your hotel.
HkPunter99
06-29-24, 00:43
Globe girls tend to only go out escort with men they already know from the club. I doubt many Globe girls will agree to blind dates outside the club. Plus Globe girls will very likely insist on a 3-5 hour minimum booking to compensate for lost revenue in the club. Aphrodisia is more inline with what the American might be looking for. Drop into a discrete bar with working girls already lined up. See one you like and pay the house for the number of hours you want. Incall or outcall makes little difference to them. Having said that, discretion is already pretty good at Aphro so I see no reason to take the girl out unless you are booking a multi-day booking. Anyways, no lack of women in Zurich. I'm sure the American will find his way. No matter how you cut it however, It won't be cheap. Zurich is the wrong city for cheap. USD500 wont get you very far, thats a quickie in Globe or Aphro and certainly wont get a girl to your hotel.Yeah, I've had several girls at Amesia try to get me to take them back to my hotel, so that is an option as well.
Amesia. Ch.
The other thing to try is and6.com. That has the downside of not being able to meet the girl before committing to time & money (I'm a club guy for this reason).
And agree on the cost. Plenty of girls, and great city, but EXPENSIVE (compared to other places in the world). That said, cost is relative. Coming from the USA, you can easily spend $700 - $1000 USD for a 90 minute session with a good looking girl in the US, plus you have the worry of the legal bullshit. And having to give away personally identifiable information in order to book (screening process). So, as an American myself, I don't mind the rates in Zurich given the fact it's safe & legal.
American here. Will be making my first trip to Zurich in early September. Experienced with the escort scene in USA and have presence on USA sexguide and other forums.
Will be in Zurich for 24 hours before leaving for a couple of weeks hiking in Alps. Would like some company during my time in Zurich but not really interested in the FKK scene and would prefer an outcall to my hotel (Marriott Zurich).
Only thing I see are some agency ads with pretty high prices (900/1000 CHF). Seems kind of high for unknown quality. In US, 500 gets you pretty high quality. Not opposed to more if multiple hours or could confirm quality.
If anyone could point me to sites where ladies advertise or have recommendations I would appreciate it. Or if any ladies read this and want to reach out that would be great. I general prefer women who are height / weight proportionate and have a good attitude. Otherwise I like all kinds.
Thanks for any help. Also, if there is anything I need to know about escort protocol in Zurich please let me now.Have been there for a business trip.
Bemygirl. Ch- options are limited in Zurich when compared to Geneva but this will be the best bet - 300 to 500 CHF per hour.
Xdate. Ch and https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/ are other options where you can try your luck.
Imperium (Ingo's Clubs including Globe) used to have an escort website where you could see some of the Globe girls for escort. 3 hours for a premium girl were 900 CHF. Never tried it so no first hand experience. Zurich is a bad location for Escort and if you expect to find better looking girls compared to Globe you will be disappointed. The money for the girls is in the clubs and they can earn way more there. I do know Globe girls that went on (paid) vacations but they knew their customers well beforehand and it is expensive. Go to Globe or Aphro for a large selection and you can also talk to her first. And6 is an online web site but it can also be hit or miss and without a review or recommendation I would not risk it. In Globe worst case if you go to the room and find out you made a wrong choice you are out of 150 CHF. Just go back and pick the next one. If in Rome.
Thanks for your input. Under the Globe thread in this forum, recent reviews have not been positive as to quality or attitude of girls at Globe but I will reconsider.The attitude of girls in Globe was indeed very bad 1-2 years ago, but since half a year or so, this really improved IMHO. Maybe because Ingo is there almost every day?
About 50/50 girls with / without silicone, so especially Thu-Sat you have enough choice.
Aphrodesia would be a good alternative if you want to stay in the city and do outcall.
Thanks for your input. Under the Globe thread in this forum, recent reviews have not been positive as to quality or attitude of girls at Globe but I will reconsider.As Mr ManoloX wrote in the Globe section "Most of the people active in this forum, as well as in most other internet forums, are those who are complaining. You rarely see people who are happy and "have a good life" spending their time writing posts. So no surprise. ".
So you have to take all the complains with a grain of salt, especially the writings of Monsieur S who has a very personal and opinionated perspective on working girls (sometimes without logic for me when I know what he is writing about). The truth is that Globe is in Switzerland from far the place where you have the higher chances to get a good service from a good looking girl. And if you are around reception when men come to pay after the rooms, you see mainly very happy faces. Regarding the attitude, I think currently a lot is depending on supply and demand. You will get more attention a calm Monday afternoon than a busy Friday night. We have also to accept as occasional visitors that we cannot achieve the status of men who come every week or more often. This being said, if 20 girls ignore me a Thursday when there is supposed to be 60 girls, I still have a large choice. ;O).
KombatWombat
06-29-24, 20:53
As Mr ManoloX wrote in the Globe section "Most of the people active in this forum, as well as in most other internet forums, are those who are complaining. You rarely see people who are happy and "have a good life" spending their time writing posts. So no surprise. ".
So you have to take all the complains with a grain of salt, especially the writings of Monsieur S who has a very personal and opinionated perspective on working girls (sometimes without logic for me when I know what he is writing about). The truth is that Globe is in Switzerland from far the place where you have the higher chances to get a good service from a good looking girl. And if you are around reception when men come to pay after the rooms, you see mainly very happy faces. Regarding the attitude, I think currently a lot is depending on supply and demand. You will get more attention a calm Monday afternoon than a busy Friday night. We have also to accept as occasional visitors that we cannot achieve the status of men who come every week or more often. This being said, if 20 girls ignore me a Thursday when there is supposed to be 60 girls, I still have a large choice. ;O).Completely agree with everything said here. I visited this twice this week after previously have visited a few times in 2019. The service levels were the best I had experienced then and they have only gotten better. All money exchanged now happens at the counter with whomever is working the desk making sure you are happy with the girls service. I do think there are less headturners than there was precovid which I am guessing is a trend across all clubs. The hottest girl in my opinion was one that I had sessioned with precovid. I am terrible with names but she said she is 28, has a real distinctive face with green eyes and the closest thing to an hourglass body I have seen at this club. I think there were at least a few other girls on her level when I visited in 2019. I also do somewhat agree with monsieur s opinion that there is too much fake tits and tattoos at this club if I compare it to other clubs I have been to. Tattoos and Cosmetic enhancements aren't a dealbreaker for me but I would prefer If some of the hotter girls maintained a more natural appearance.
As Mr ManoloX wrote in the Globe section "Most of the people active in this forum, as well as in most other internet forums, are those who are complaining. You rarely see people who are happy and "have a good life" spending their time writing posts. So no surprise. ".
So you have to take all the complains with a grain of salt, especially the writings of Monsieur S who has a very personal and opinionated perspective on working girls (sometimes without logic for me when I know what he is writing about). The truth is that Globe is in Switzerland from far the place where you have the higher chances to get a good service from a good looking girl. And if you are around reception when men come to pay after the rooms, you see mainly very happy faces. Regarding the attitude, I think currently a lot is depending on supply and demand. You will get more attention a calm Monday afternoon than a busy Friday night. We have also to accept as occasional visitors that we cannot achieve the status of men who come every week or more often. This being said, if 20 girls ignore me a Thursday when there is supposed to be 60 girls, I still have a large choice. ;O).So obvious, level of looks really fell since 2021 , with bad selection, when I remember Megan who would be one of the prettiest now, was refused on February 2017 . I don t care if panamera or cayenne are faster than 964 , when they are ugly, when 964 was the last real. On many of my last visits, I couldn t find only 1 attractive, when fortunately for me, I find elsewhere, even girls tell I m too picky. I m just not interested to pay to just empty balls, I want much more pleasure.
PaulInZurich
06-30-24, 17:35
So you have to take all the complains with a grain of salt, especially the writings of Monsieur S who has a very personal and opinionated perspective on working girls (sometimes without logic for me when I know what he is writing about). The truth is that Globe is in Switzerland from far the place where you have the higher chances to get a good service from a good looking girl.
Regarding the attitude, I think currently a lot is depending on supply and demand. You will get more attention a calm Monday afternoon than a busy Friday night. We have also to accept as occasional visitors that we cannot achieve the status of men who come every week or more often. On a busy Friday or Saturday night the rejection rate is definitely higher. The girls have much more clients to choose from and then some of them at some point would rather party.
KombatWombat
06-30-24, 19:15
Defiantly agree with Sonja’s opinion that there aren’t as much lookers at Globe. Interested to know what clubs can compete though as I thought this would be a trend across all clubs.
Defiantly agree with Sonjas opinion that there arent as much lookers at Globe. Interested to know what clubs can compete though as I thought this would be a trend across all clubs.Unfortunately, Freubad also fell for looks since 2023 . I prefer a club with only 1 wow than a club with 50 average looks. At Globe, Masha and Anna seem above for look. Germany is best value for money than Globe which fell to average.
Defiantly agree with Sonjas opinion that there arent as much lookers at Globe. Interested to know what clubs can compete though as I thought this would be a trend across all clubs.No FKK club in Switzerland I am aware off can compete with Globe. There are a lot more tattoos and enlarged breasts though compared to many years ago. Tattoos I guess is just a sign of the time while larger titts attract more business (plenty of examples at Globe). Let's all enjoy it while it is still going. If Rumania gets wealthier it will get a lot worse. Look at e. G. How many Polish girls you still see compared to many years ago.
Thanks for your input. Under the Globe thread in this forum, recent reviews have not been positive as to quality or attitude of girls at Globe but I will reconsider.I live in Zurich, but I've also lived in the US. As an American, perhaps you are unaware that you live in what is basically sex prison?
I've tried outcall here, and in Zurich your best experience and best value for money will be at Globe. Outcalls are generally price / quality inferior to Globe.
Regard FJ.
Thanks for your input. Under the Globe thread in this forum, recent reviews have not been positive as to quality or attitude of girls at Globe but I will reconsider.
As Mr ManoloX wrote in the Globe section "Most of the people active in this forum, as well as in most other internet forums, are those who are complaining. You rarely see people who are happy and "have a good life" spending their time writing posts. So no surprise. ".
So you have to take all the complains with a grain of salt, especially the writings of Monsieur S who has a very personal and opinionated perspective on working girls (sometimes without logic for me when I know what he is writing about). The truth is that Globe is in Switzerland from far the place where you have the higher chances to get a good service from a good looking girl. And if you are around reception when men come to pay after the rooms, you see mainly very happy faces. Regarding the attitude, I think currently a lot is depending on supply and demand. You will get more attention a calm Monday afternoon than a busy Friday night. We have also to accept as occasional visitors that we cannot achieve the status of men who come every week or more often. This being said, if 20 girls ignore me a Thursday when there is supposed to be 60 girls, I still have a large choice. ;O).There's a huge difference in English language review boards and the German & Austrian ones. There you see many more pure reviews without history or color commentary. Girl service price (and a rating on the food). And I agree about happy visitors. The last time I went to a tiny club I saw a number of guys leaving with smiles. Two I specifically asked who they fucked and got a great lead! Yet I have seen several negative reviews. None of the positive ones. Being annoyed makes you want to complain- not so on the Austrian boards. (I don't follow the Swiss ones).
So with that said- I like Globe; "my" choices were good. Not as many as at Sharks but enough to have to chose between ladies as opposed to take the least worst! As to your original question about escort sites. The amount of work to find and then vet an escort is not inconsiderable. I got it down to one lady last trip and when I what's app's her she was fully booked so I went off to Globe. I'll be there again in the next 6 weeks and will report.
Bottom line. If you are short on time an FKK provides a better chance of positive results. On the negative side, you don't have the girl in your hotel room experience and her scent on your pillow or the relaxing atmosphere.
KombatWombat
07-01-24, 12:49
. If Rumania gets wealthier it will get a lot worse. Look at e. G. How many Polish girls you still see compared to many years ago.It's probably already in the process of happening which would explain why quality of girls has gone down according to numerous sources. Would have loved to have experienced these clubs when they were filled with Czechs, Hungarians and poles. Gotten a bit jaded already from the Romanian experience. Surely some of the older gents on this forum have some fun stories to tell.
It's probably already in the process of happening which would explain why quality of girls has gone down according to numerous sources. Would have loved to have experienced these clubs when they were filled with Czechs, Hungarians and poles. Gotten a bit jaded already from the Romanian experience. Surely some of the older gents on this forum have some fun stories to tell.I got exceptional Romanians in Germany, NL, Switzerland and Austria, one for 80 hours at 150/90 , but unfortunately, level of new generation really fell for elegance and charm, when asking more expensive and not only at Globe but also in Germany. Before covid, I preferred Romanians, now I go for Germans, 1 Russian and 1 Italian. I adapt to find quality for what Globe fell.
PaulInZurich
07-01-24, 17:53
Medusa had an Only Fans party, supposedly with OF "models" not clear if the OF models could be fucked or if they were only stripping. Anybody went there?
Sebastiane
07-02-24, 19:10
For those coming to Zurich the best "budget" hotels (Zurich is expensive!
That I always use are Motel One, a boutique design hotel brand from Germany. They have a branch right next door to Aphrodisia (opposite side of the road). I think rooms are from 140 CHF per night. The other one -much nicer but more expensive too. Is citizenm hotel on the main shopping street. Swissotel was ideal for Globe but it shut down a couple of years ago.
All Swiss hotels are excellent quality even the cheapest unlike in the USA.
PaulInZurich
09-10-24, 12:14
They have a few additional rooms (on the floor where the VIP room is) and they will extend the roof terrace to use the entire surface. There is rumor of a small pool as well.
Steve 9696
09-10-24, 18:36
Thanks for your input. Under the Globe thread in this forum, recent reviews have not been positive as to quality or attitude of girls at Globe but I will reconsider.Don't be put off by the negative comments. They mostly come from the Franglish dude who seems to have some agenda. There is no more guaranteed great service worldwide than a Globe girl. I have never had anything than an excellent experience there. Two thoughts:
1 If you haven't done FKK before you got to do it anyhow. I know u said you wanted outcall but damn FKK is an experience all men must do.
2 Globe girls don't generally approach. You will prob have to approach or grab one when she seems to be moving in between venues. Don't be shy.
Don't be put off by the negative comments. They mostly come from the Franglish dude who seems to have some agenda. There is no more guaranteed great service worldwide than a Globe girl. I have never had anything than an excellent experience there. Two thoughts:
1 If you haven't done FKK before you got to do it anyhow. I know u said you wanted outcall but damn FKK is an experience all men must do.
2 Globe girls don't generally approach. You will prob have to approach or grab one when she seems to be moving in between venues. Don't be shy.+1.
In 10+ years of visiting, I had 1 below average session. The average service level is very high compared to other popular FKK / Sauna clubs (one exception for me was GT-Buggen which doesn't exist anymore).
Don't be put off by the negative comments. They mostly come from the Franglish dude who seems to have some agenda. There is no more guaranteed great service worldwide than a Globe girl. I have never had anything than an excellent experience there. Two thoughts:
1 If you haven't done FKK before you got to do it anyhow. I know u said you wanted outcall but damn FKK is an experience all men must do.
2 Globe girls don't generally approach. You will prob have to approach or grab one when she seems to be moving in between venues. Don't be shy.Many others than me wrote casting is now disappointing, read better, why to pay more expensive for less pretty girls than in Germany, when beauty excite me more than seeing a girl sucking a ugly. In Germany, You just have to be able to play with no rules, receiving from what You are. For sure, less easy for uglies.
+1.
In 10+ years of visiting, I had 1 below average session. The average service level is very high compared to other popular FKK / Sauna clubs (one exception for me was GT-Buggen which doesn't exist anymore).On 2019 , I had a average 30 mn room on roof for 130 € , when she was so lovely in lounge before and after. Since 2022 , I had several below average rooms, even bad with tall Sara. Now, girls at Globe are same than in Germany, many coming from, and despite rules, this don t make improving girls potential. For fresh GFE and vagina potential, Globe is not better than elsewhere and looks are not anymore impressive, when 160€/30 versus about half rate in many other clubs.
PaulInZurich
09-11-24, 16:07
2 Globe girls don't generally approach. You will prob have to approach or grab one when she seems to be moving in between venues. Don't be shy.It really depends how busy it is in the club.
Don't be put off by the negative comments. They mostly come from the Franglish dude who seems to have some agenda. There is no more guaranteed great service worldwide than a Globe girl. I have never had anything than an excellent experience there. Two thoughts:
2 Globe girls don't generally approach. You will prob have to approach or grab one when she seems to be moving in between venues. Don't be shy.
It really depends how busy it is in the club.Globe girls may come up to you but they are NOT pushy like at other clubs around Germany. I don't have enough sessions to be a great survey participant, but all my experiences have been good. My only complaint. And not really to your point- is that the Swiss clubs don't usually have professional massage therapists in the sauna / wellness area. To me that's the cherry on the top! Long session, professional massage / sauna then drinks and then back into the bar area to find the next session.
If you want to talk to girls the best place, IMHO, is at the base of the stairs to the food floor. Leaning on the rail, most of the girls will pause near you and if you make enough eye contact, they will come over. Also true at bar, but to a lesser degree and much much less true the farther into the corners you sit.
Thanks for all the advice and comments regarding my inquiry as to the escort scene in Zurich. I thought I would share my experience for the benefit of other ignorant Americans.
While I have engaged hundreds of escorts over the past 20 years I have never visited a brothel. As many may know, brothels are not legal in the US, other than a few in Nevada, but despite the US laws escorts are easily available in all medium and larger cities. Based on the board comments I figured it was time I had a brothel experience.
Globe seemed overwhelming for my first experience so I chose to visit Aphrodisia in the heart of Zurich. Reviews were favorable other than a few comments about quality of girls being worth the price so I decided to take my chances. I entered Aphrodisia around 1800 on a weekday evening so early and not the most busy of times. I was immediately met by a young woman who explained the pricing. Same as on website. And let me know the girls were not allowed to approach me. I was then pointed toward the bar. The bar is a bit smaller than it looks on the website. There were about 6 girls in the bar. I sat down and ordered a drink. It was awkward for me to approach the girls and more awkward when I realized none of them spoke any English. And I don't speak German. I finally did talk to a girl who was visiting from Lisbon. I speak some Spanish and she spoke a little Spanish and a little English so we could communicate some. She was a solid 7 or 8. Tall, about 170 cm, with dark hair, dark eyes and a firm body. I asked her for a 30 minute visit and she was happy to accept.
She took me upstairs, got my payment of 280 CHF and pointed me toward a shower. She returned, also took a shower and then joined me on the bed. Communication was still difficult but I used the translation app on my phone and got my points across. She was happy to accommodate. BJ was bare and very good for as long as I wanted. I then covered up and did all the usual positions and she took it all with no hesitation or complaints. Made all the right sounds even if probably fake. At my age finishing with a cover can take forever. Eventually she started to verbally encourage me with dirty talk which helped do the trick.
I figured she might jump up right away but she stayed and wanted to cuddle and touch. Then allowed me to take another shower and dress before escorting me downstairs. Got more than my 30 minutes.
All the girls in the bar were at least 6 or 7's. My lack of language skills is not their fault but be prepared. Maybe later in the evening or weekends would provide more options including girls who speak English. It is a clean place and was a nice experience. Would probably be better next time now that I know the situation.
Thanks for all the advice and comments regarding my inquiry as to the escort scene in Zurich. I thought I would share my experience for the benefit of other ignorant Americans.
While I have engaged hundreds of escorts over the past 20 years I have never visited a brothel. As many may know, brothels are not legal in the US, other than a few in Nevada, but despite the US laws escorts are easily available in all medium and larger cities. Based on the board comments I figured it was time I had a brothel experience.
.It's nice to see a recommendation I made months ago actually influenced someone's decision. I remember this American and the old timey way he introduces himself with every post. And I thank him for reporting back after his visit.
I suppose his experience in Aphro was not terrible. But there are a few points he made that are not really representative of what a typical visit would entail.
Firstly on the language issue. The American says that all 6 girls he saw at the bar don't speak English and he had trouble communicating becouse he doesn't speak German. Well, since this is a non-approach bar, one would need to wave each girl over for a chat one-by-one in order establish that each girl doesn't speak English. Unlikely. Truth is, all the girls at the bar (including the supposed Portuguese-Spanish speaking girl he ended up with) are Romanian and all speak English perfectly well, otherwise they would not be allowed to work at a high end place like Aphro. In fact many don't speak German. Maybe on a busy night, where there are 15-30 girls lined up, you will find 1 or 2 who are not Romanian. I had a Polish girl on my last visit and what a breath of fresh air she was! Coming across a girl who doesn't speak English in Aphro (or Zurich for that matter) would be very very rare, and if that was the case here, I'm a afraid that was a poor choice on the buyer's part.
The second point to clear up is that 6 pm on a weekday is actually not a bad time to visit. 6-8 pm is when you will see the best line-up still at the bar. Show-up post 9 pm and most of the best girls would have been scooped up for the night. The real question is which day? Monday through Wednesday is usually slow so set your expectations accordingly. Thursday through Saturday is prime time. Many girls only show up there for the Thursday- Saturday program. If you visit during prime time, sit at the bar for 30-45 minutes and if you still find nothing, that's just a bad luck day and you should cut your losses (which are none because its free), and head to Globe. Staying at the bar for more than an hour would be awkward. You are meant to have a drink, maybe two and pick a girl. If you don't pick within your first two drinks (45 minutes), you might be labeled as a freeloader.
And lastly, going for a 30 min / 280 CHF session may seem expensive by many standards (and it is), but that's a Cheap Charlie session to many of the girls at Aphro. Many will give every poor service at that rate, I. E 3 minutes BJ, covered, quick fuck and out. Whereas to experience what Aphro girls are really like, one hour is the minimum with two hours being reasonable. 2 hrs+ and she will pull out all her tricks to keep you in that room. And let me tell you. These gals got tricks.
As for the quality of the current line-up. I should not comment. Everyone has their own tastes and the line-up is a cyclical thing. Generally however, after a slow recovery in 2021-2022, my recent visits in the last two years have been successful with memorable ladies and sessions. I hope that only improves with time.
Thanks for all the advice and comments regarding my inquiry as to the escort scene in Zurich. I thought I would share my experience for the benefit of other ignorant Americans.
While I have engaged hundreds of escorts over the past 20 years I have never visited a brothel. As many may know, brothels are not legal in the US, other than a few in Nevada, but despite the US laws escorts are easily available in all medium and larger cities. Based on the board comments I figured it was time I had a brothel experience.
Globe seemed overwhelming for my first experience so I chose to visit Aphrodisia in the heart of Zurich. Reviews were favorable other than a few comments about quality of girls being worth the price so I decided to take my chances. I entered Aphrodisia around 1800 on a weekday evening so early and not the most busy of times. I was immediately met by a young woman who explained the pricing. Same as on website. And let me know the girls were not allowed to approach me. I was then pointed toward the bar. The bar is a bit smaller than it looks on the website. There were about 6 girls in the bar. I sat down and ordered a drink. It was awkward for me to approach the girls and more awkward when I realized none of them spoke any English. And I don't speak German. I finally did talk to a girl who was visiting from Lisbon. I speak some Spanish and she spoke a little Spanish and a little English so we could communicate some. She was a solid 7 or 8. Tall, about 170 cm, with dark hair, dark eyes and a firm body. I asked her for a 30 minute visit and she was happy to accept.
She took me upstairs, got my payment of 280 CHF and pointed me toward a shower. She returned, also took a shower and then joined me on the bed. Communication was still difficult but I used the translation app on my phone and got my points across. She was happy to accommodate. BJ was bare and very good for as long as I wanted. I then covered up and did all the usual positions and she took it all with no hesitation or complaints. Made all the right sounds even if probably fake. At my age finishing with a cover can take forever. Eventually she started to verbally encourage me with dirty talk which helped do the trick.
I figured she might jump up right away but she stayed and wanted to cuddle and touch. Then allowed me to take another shower and dress before escorting me downstairs. Got more than my 30 minutes.
All the girls in the bar were at least 6 or 7's. My lack of language skills is not their fault but be prepared. Maybe later in the evening or weekends would provide more options including girls who speak English. It is a clean place and was a nice experience. Would probably be better next time now that I know the situation.Aphrodisia girls not speaking english? When I doubt there is a German girl at Aphrodisia. After I visited Argau, Zurich police and Maylin prisons, I remember when I visited Aphrodisia on Thursday around 7 pm to after midnight, on best casting day, when I prefer to play professionnal than tourist, I was the only guy at 7 and I counted about 50 girls, many were behind the bar, when quite Small, staring smiling to me, I felt naked. When You have references with beautiful escorts, Russians for me, or beautiful girls in FKK land, when most Aphrodisia girls are not so fresh look anymore, You don t find they worth so expensive rate. When Globe is lower value for money than Germany with more freshness, but I would visit Globe rather than too expensive for looks Aphrodisia, when really not many worth 150/30 at Globe.
I would say Aphrodisia is for city guys looking for cocaine, given on the bar and tourists who don t know values in FKK land. When not a local, Globe is now also mainly for tourists or voyeurs, when brother Palace is for 99/30 and Sexpark, History, Swiss Dietikon, Zeus, Olymp are for much better value for money with some as pretty girls.
PaulInZurich
09-20-24, 07:33
I see a bit of movement of girls between Swiss, Westside and Palace. This can be a good thing. My understanding is that Torsten manages Westside and Swiss, he brought a bit of change in these 3 smaller clubs. At one of the smaller parties in Swiss we talked a little bit and my interpretation is that he has a bit of freedom how he manages the smaller clubs but no influence in how Globe is managed.
I would say Aphrodisia is for city guys looking for cocaine, given on the bar and tourists who don t know values in FKK land. When not a local, Globe is now also mainly for tourists or voyeurs, Ok, so Aphro is for locals who can afford the rates and Globe for tourists?
I checked the Aphro site and the girls there look good. I have no experience with them but you're saying they're not worth the price?
Anyone else have an opinion? In my opinion the real difference seem to be the setup of the club where Aphro is no sauna- or FKK-club.
Fake it, thanks for your response to my visit. I am sure I made many rookie mistakes on my initial visit to Aphrodisia.
As to the language issue, the girls I spoke to knew a few words of English but could not engage in a conversation of any type. Perhaps they spoke English perfectly but didn't want to speak it with me because they just didn't like me, figured I was a Cheap Charlie or, since it was obvious that it was my first time, didn't want the trouble of breaking my brothel cherry. Who knows. Whether they were Romanian or not I don't know. The language they spoke among themselves did not sound like a Romance language like Romanian. Could have been Polish, Ukrainian or any number of other languages.
As to my lady of choice, she was the only one who attempted to actually have a conversation with me and seemed as if she wanted me to request her services. If she spoke more than broken English I think she would have chosen to do so. We did communicate with a combination of English and Spanish. Whether or not she is actually Portuguese, she did have the complexion and features of many women I have encountered in Portugal and Spain. When I communicated with her via my translation app it was from English to Portuguese and she seemed completely fluent in Portuguese. Even in the room she struggled to communicate in English although she did know the phrases: would you like me to blow you and f*ck me harder Papi. I have been to Lisbon several times and after we were finished I told her about some places in Lisbon I had been and she seemed to know them and recommended a place to go if I ever return. So if she is Romanian she speaks Portuguese and is familiar with Lisbon.
I do agree that a 30 minute session does not lead to the best results but at my age I am a one shot guy and since I was unsure how the session would go, especially given the communication issues, I decided that 30 minutes was the best bang for my buck. Pun intended. I was pleased with my visit. I spent time with an attractive woman half my age. She made every effort to please me and did not rush me at all. All for about $325 USD.
So that is my experience. If I return to Zurich I would go again and be more confident and perhaps have some more game in talking to the women. On a different night I am sure it would be a different experience and even with the same girl it can be different from night to night. I have nothing but positive things to say about Aphrodisia. Any problems were likely due to my inexperience but I still got what I came for.
Peace.
It's nice to see a recommendation I made months ago actually influenced someone's decision. I remember this American and the old timey way he introduces himself with every post. And I thank him for reporting back after his visit.
I suppose his experience in Aphro was not terrible. But there are a few points he made that are not really representative of what a typical visit would entail.
Firstly on the language issue. The American says that all 6 girls he saw at the bar don't speak English and he had trouble communicating becouse he doesn't speak German. Well, since this is a non-approach bar, one would need to wave each girl over for a chat one-by-one in order establish that each girl doesn't speak English. Unlikely. Truth is, all the girls at the bar (including the supposed Portuguese-Spanish speaking girl he ended up with) are Romanian and all speak English perfectly well, otherwise they would not be allowed to work at a high end place like Aphro. In fact many don't speak German. Maybe on a busy night, where there are 15-30 girls lined up, you will find 1 or 2 who are not Romanian. I had a Polish girl on my last visit and what a breath of fresh air she was! Coming across a girl who doesn't speak English in Aphro (or Zurich for that matter) would be very very rare, and if that was the case here, I'm a afraid that was a poor choice on the buyer's part.
The second point to clear up is that 6 pm on a weekday is actually not a bad time to visit. 6-8 pm is when you will see the best line-up still at the bar. Show-up post 9 pm and most of the best girls would have been scooped up for the night. The real question is which day? Monday through Wednesday is usually slow so set your expectations accordingly. Thursday through Saturday is prime time. Many girls only show up there for the Thursday- Saturday program. If you visit during prime time, sit at the bar for 30-45 minutes and if you still find nothing, that's just a bad luck day and you should cut your losses (which are none because its free), and head to Globe. Staying at the bar for more than an hour would be awkward. You are meant to have a drink, maybe two and pick a girl. If you don't pick within your first two drinks (45 minutes), you might be labeled as a freeloader.
And lastly, going for a 30 min / 280 CHF session may seem expensive by many standards (and it is), but that's a Cheap Charlie session to many of the girls at Aphro. Many will give every poor service at that rate, I. E 3 minutes BJ, covered, quick fuck and out. Whereas to experience what Aphro girls are really like, one hour is the minimum with two hours being reasonable. 2 hrs+ and she will pull out all her tricks to keep you in that room. And let me tell you. These gals got tricks.
As for the quality of the current line-up. I should not comment. Everyone has their own tastes and the line-up is a cyclical thing. Generally however, after a slow recovery in 2021-2022, my recent visits in the last two years have been successful with memorable ladies and sessions. I hope that only improves with time.
Ok, so Aphro is for locals who can afford the rates and Globe for tourists?
I checked the Aphro site and the girls there look good. I have no experience with them but you're saying they're not worth the price?
Anyone else have an opinion? In my opinion the real difference seem to be the setup of the club where Aphro is no sauna- or FKK-club.
"Opinions are like..... everyone has one" goes the old saying so I'll dive in especially as I was at Globe less than a month ago.
There was a healthy mix of Tourists and locals. But it depends how you define tourists. If you're from Geneva are you a tourist? If you come regularly and the girls say Hello, by name but you're from Lucerne or Berlin are you a tourist? I chatted with a very TOURISTY Japanese guy (mid / late 20's), who said this was his first FKK ever and I walked him through some basics. He hid behind me at one point when a aggressive lady kept stalking him. But eventually went up after me. I was in the food line upstairs with different Swiss guys, 3 came together. I was info diving on their opinion of the girls they had seen, and got a lot of "my favorirte isn't here tonight, so I'll go with XYZ". Given I'm bilingual, and can usually tell the accents apart, I'd say that more than half of the people in attendence were some form of regional guests with several regulars sitting at the bar. The guy who smokes cigars like he's farting incense into the room is someone I've seen many times.
I don't do Sharks as much as many of the other clubs, so I can't compare and I admit have never been to Aphro, but my wallet will tell you I know my way around.
There. One asshole's opinion (as I said when I started this post).
Steve 9696
09-21-24, 02:40
Ok, so Aphro is for locals who can afford the rates and Globe for tourists?
I checked the Aphro site and the girls there look good. I have no experience with them but you're saying they're not worth the price?
Anyone else have an opinion? In my opinion the real difference seem to be the setup of the club where Aphro is no sauna- or FKK-club.My first thought for you is ignore everything Siroja says. I'm not trying to be difficult or argumentative but if you even understand what he's saying it's not reality. Globe is an amazing club. Arguably the most guaranteed sex experience in the world. And Aphrodisia is hideously expensive but a unique experience because it's a contakt bar not an FKK. Imagine a bar with lots of hot women and not too many men (it's expensive!) and all the women want to fuck you. It's quite an experience. The sex is decidedly mediocre compared to globe. But if you want to hang out and feel special and ogle the merchandise and then pic someone to fuck it's a fairly unique experience. Not something to repeat a lot but a worthy endeavor for those with coin.
Ok, so Aphro is for locals who can afford the rates and Globe for tourists?
I checked the Aphro site and the girls there look good. I have no experience with them but you're saying they're not worth the price?
Anyone else have an opinion? In my opinion the real difference seem to be the setup of the club where Aphro is no sauna- or FKK-club.When You know FKK land and when You see looks at Aphrodisia I chose to visit on best casting day with around 50 girls at this time, You see looks who never worth 280/30 or 500/60 , when most worked in less expensive clubs, Amesia, Freubad, Globe, in Germany, before and I get prettier and more fresh for around 150/60 or less, when Aphrodisia is kind of elephants cemetary for WGs. Almost same at Globe with most girls who worked in Germany or Austria before and not the best except Kate who was a star in Hessen, with looks not worthing 150/30 when I get prettier for half rate or less. What I call tourists and many here, are those not knowing anything about this business and going to what is famous, but not meaning quality. With my behavior, I really don t need Globe rules and I m used to more fresh GFE than what I experienced at Globe since 2022 , when GFE is not only kissing, but how the girl will behave with You from what You are. Mostly quite average looks in both and not even the best GFE level in bed at Globe, when girls are too professionnal under rules, when real GFE is made of freshness and You will make your own GFE, making the girl willing to give You back, so much more enjoyable than just rules. But You can pay more expensive for lower quality, like a tourist, when I m not interested to play tourist in brothels. Sharks is also to fuck tourists now in Germany, but many other clubs and same in Switzerland with better value.
Only good point at Aphrodisia, same than at brother Amesia, is free entry, so You can give a look at girls in small bar. Many guys working in city, just go to take a free drink and looking at girls, but not more. Some go to find cocaine, more than level of sex I expect when I go with a girl. I preferred Amesia when it was FKK ex Bumsalp, rather than kontakt bar, even I got a rare fresh, full natural Swiss for twice 510/90 when she was so enjoyable for sex due to her freshness for GFE. I visited twice Aphrodisia on Thursday at 7 pm til midnight /1 am, I saw only very few guys going to room, mostly for 30 mn and it was before covid when business was better. At Globe, staff don t tell anymore about wow experience.
In Zurich for business and leisure after 7 months of absence and decided to hit three main mongering spots: Aphro, Amelia, and Globe (report in Globe thread).
I was supposed to have a booking with one of my SBs in Zurich but this was cancelled as she felt a bit sick with a bad cold. So, I decided to try and book an escort from Jessica, but the 7 girls I enquired about were all unavailable. I think many girls they have on their website are not there anymore, also the person I was dealing with was rather rude and blunt in her communication. So, decided to hit the clubs during these three days.
Thursday 19 - Hit Aphro and in my opinion this is a club where you leave without a session most of the times as you usually never find a girl worthy of the 280 CHF /30 min rate. However sometimes you find a gem and this gem is called Valentina. Ro girl with white skin, tall, blonde and with a very sexy body and face. So I went with her and I had a fantastic session with BBJ with almost two pops in 30 min. Very highly recommended.
I was busy in the evening for dinner, but I went back after dinner and she was still there but she was waiting for someone who had reserved her and there was already another man in front of me after that. So I decided to go back to the hotel and sleep.
Friday 20 - After a disappointing time at Globe I decided to cut my losses and go to Amesia, where I met a very nice girl, ESMA. Ro, who also works at Sharks. Dark blonde long hair, natural boobs and rather tall. Amazing session with lots of BBJ and kissing but I couldn'tt do two pops in 30 min. Very well spent 170 CHF /30 min. Highly recommended.
After this I went to Aphro again and see if I could close my trip with another session with Valentina, but she wasn't there and I didn't want to stay in that very smoky place for too long, so I left after almost 30 min without a session. All the other girls are just 6's or 6. 5's.no definitely not worth the rate.
Rock.
My first thought for you is ignore everything Siroja says. I'm not trying to be difficult or argumentative but if you even understand what he's saying it's not reality. Globe is an amazing club. Arguably the most guaranteed sex experience in the world. And Aphrodisia is hideously expensive but a unique experience because it's a contakt bar not an FKK. Imagine a bar with lots of hot women and not too many men (it's expensive!) and all the women want to fuck you. It's quite an experience. The sex is decidedly mediocre compared to globe. But if you want to hang out and feel special and ogle the merchandise and then pic someone to fuck it's a fairly unique experience. Not something to repeat a lot but a worthy endeavor for those with coin.+1.
Aphrodesia only usefull when you are in center of Zurich and only have time for one session. Globe is still the place to be for high quality at a reasonable price (despite the downfall of last 5 years).
In Zurich for business and leisure after 7 months of absence and decided to hit three main mongering spots: Aphro, Amelia, and Globe (report in Globe thread).
I was supposed to have a booking with one of my SBs in Zurich but this was cancelled as she felt a bit sick with a bad cold. So, I decided to try and book an escort from Jessica, but the 7 girls I enquired about were all unavailable. I think many girls they have on their website are not there anymore, also the person I was dealing with was rather rude and blunt in her communication. So, decided to hit the clubs during these three days.
Thursday 19 - Hit Aphro and in my opinion this is a club where you leave without a session most of the times as you usually never find a girl worthy of the 280 CHF /30 min rate. However sometimes you find a gem and this gem is called Valentina. Ro girl with white skin, tall, blonde and with a very sexy body and face. So I went with her and I had a fantastic session with BBJ with almost two pops in 30 min. Very highly recommended.
I was busy in the evening for dinner, but I went back after dinner and she was still there but she was waiting for someone who had reserved her and there was already another man in front of me after that. So I decided to go back to the hotel and sleep.
Friday 20 - After a disappointing time at Globe I decided to cut my losses and go to Amesia, where I met a very nice girl, ESMA. Ro, who also works at Sharks. Dark blonde long hair, natural boobs and rather tall. Amazing session with lots of BBJ and kissing but I couldn'tt do two pops in 30 min. Very well spent 170 CHF /30 min. Highly recommended..Good you could find a look worthing 280/30 at Aphro, when I don't find for 150/30 at Globe. Same Esma, same name, than at Sharks sitting at the bottom of stairs to rooms?
PaulInZurich
09-24-24, 23:41
Friday 20 - After a disappointing time at Globe I decided to cut my losses and go to Amesia, where I met a very nice girl, ESMA. Ro, who also works at Sharks. Dark blonde long hair, natural boobs and rather tall. Amazing session with lots of BBJ and kissing but I couldn'tt do two pops in 30 min. Very well spent 170 CHF /30 min. Highly recommended.
Sometimes there are interesting German part timers who come to work only 2-3 days. I started going to Amesia since entry is free and if there is nobody interesting I only lost a bit of time. I can always continue towards Globe after a coffee.
Anybody tried Club Dream, it is only 5 minutes walk from Amesia.
Good you could find a look worthing 280/30 at Aphro, when I don't find for 150/30 at Globe. Same Esma, same name, than at Sharks sitting at the bottom of stairs to rooms?On my 2 Thursday visits, when I spent in total more than 10 hours, eating very good Easter chocolates on second visit, I saw only blond Marina I could have paid for, but she was more sexy when I saw her months later at Amesia, but only drinking champagne, not going to room. When I m more attracted by looks close to normal woman, I found at Amesia which used to be best place for such looks in Zurich. If I don t find when I will make a pit stop at Globe, I may give a look, when free entry. Seem no more casquet and sport clothes allowed, wesh wesh are not welcome. Always funny to see guys with casquet and sunglasses in dark brothels, same than with socks, or pantie under shower. What about washing dick and ass.
... I entered Aphrodisia around 1800 on a weekday evening so early and not the most busy of times. I was immediately met by a young woman who explained the pricing. Same as on website. And let me know the girls were not allowed to approach me. I was then pointed toward the bar. The bar is a bit smaller than it looks on the website. There were about 6 girls in the bar. I sat down and ordered a drink. It was awkward for me to approach the girls and more awkward when I realized none of them spoke any English. And I don't speak German. I finally did talk to a girl who was visiting from Lisbon. I speak some Spanish and she spoke a little Spanish and a little English so we could communicate some. She was a solid 7 or 8. Tall, about 170 cm, with dark hair, dark eyes and a firm body. I asked her for a 30 minute visit and she was happy to accept..This is very surprising; I am a regular Aphrodisia customer and I have met only girls who speak a decent level of English. I can't even imagine how they can survive, if they have problem in communicating (and very few speak German).
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The second point to clear up is that 6 pm on a weekday is actually not a bad time to visit. 6-8 pm is when you will see the best line-up still at the bar. Show-up post 9 pm and most of the best girls would have been scooped up for the night. The real question is which day? Monday through Wednesday is usually slow so set your expectations accordingly. Thursday through Saturday is prime time. Many girls only show up there for the Thursday- Saturday program. If you visit during prime time, sit at the bar for 30-45 minutes and if you still find nothing, that's just a bad luck day and you should cut your losses (which are none because its free), and head to Globe. Staying at the bar for more than an hour would be awkward. You are meant to have a drink, maybe two and pick a girl. If you don't pick within your first two drinks (45 minutes), you might be labeled as a freeloader.If you arrive in the dead times, Aphro can be a bit embarrassing, as you may be the only customer; anybody who stay there more than 15/30 minutes without picking a girl builds the reputation of being a time waster / freeloader, losing therefore credibility with girls or of being a weird person. Of course, if you go there late in the night, where the club is often crowded, nobody will even notice you.
IAnd lastly, going for a 30 min / 280 CHF session may seem expensive by many standards (and it is), but that's a Cheap Charlie session to many of the girls at Aphro. Many will give every poor service at that rate, I. E 3 minutes BJ, covered, quick fuck and out. Whereas to experience what Aphro girls are really like, one hour is the minimum with two hours being reasonable. 2 hrs+ and she will pull out all her tricks to keep you in that room. And let me tell you. These gals got tricks.Totally agree; despite what some very naive or full of himself man says, money plays the difference here, not size, sex skills or appearance. The performance, in terms of engagement, between a 2 hours session or a 30 minutes session, especially if you are a recurring customer, is different; who wouldn't agree with the girl?.
IAs for the quality of the current line-up. I should not comment. Everyone has their own tastes and the line-up is a cyclical thing. Generally however, after a slow recovery in 2021-2022, my recent visits in the last two years have been successful with memorable ladies and sessions. I hope that only improves with time.I have to say that the entire Zurich area is showing clear signs of decline, in terms of average beauty; Aphro is not spared by this trend. Sign that the club is struggling a bit is the average number of girls, that, since the summer, is regularly below or around 30; the glorious times with 50 girls are gone!.
I can not say that the girls are ugly, they are not, but they miss that something special that you expect to find in these places. However, there are a few gems, for sure above average, as well; they are simply rarer and more difficult to catch than in the past, but if you have a bit of patience, you may have had great sessions with attractive (at least for my eyes) ladies!
I would say Aphrodisia is for city guys looking for cocaine, given on the bar and tourists who don t know values in FKK land. When not a local, Globe is now also mainly for tourists or voyeurs, when brother Palace is for 99/30 and Sexpark, History, Swiss Dietikon, Zeus, Olymp are for much better value for money with some as pretty girls.Regarding the minor clubs, as far as the beauty is concerned, the difference with the two top clubs, Aphro and Globe is simply striking; at least this is my experience, I can even think of comparing them.
My first thought for you is ignore everything Siroja says. I'm not trying to be difficult or argumentative but if you even understand what he's saying it's not reality. Globe is an amazing club. Arguably the most guaranteed sex experience in the world. And Aphrodisia is hideously expensive but a unique experience because it's a contakt bar not an FKK. Imagine a bar with lots of hot women and not too many men (it's expensive!) and all the women want to fuck you. It's quite an experience. The sex is decidedly mediocre compared to globe. But if you want to hang out and feel special and ogle the merchandise and then pic someone to fuck it's a fairly unique experience. Not something to repeat a lot but a worthy endeavor for those with coin.The real difference between Globe and Aphro is that in Globe you can lower your guard and a decent performance is always guaranteed; in Aphro you'd better talk with the girls beforehand to avoid surprises, as the girls are free to do whatever they want. However, it does not matter what the girl does, but how she does; I have had personally my best sessions in Aphrodisia.
Thursday 19 - Hit Aphro and in my opinion this is a club where you leave without a session most of the times as you usually never find a girl worthy of the 280 CHF /30 min rate. However sometimes you find a gem and this gem is called Valentina. Ro girl with white skin, tall, blonde and with a very sexy body and face. So I went with her and I had a fantastic session with BBJ with almost two pops in 30 min. Very highly recommended..Completely agree on Valentina, a true 10+; former volleyball player, almost 180 cm, very toned body with endless legs and super ass, I can't imagine anything better. Only her beauty would be worth the session; but she can also perform, making the session very enjoyable. I find her character a bit too tough and from time to time she turns too professional, but she is a solid recommendation from my side as well.
PaulInZurich
09-27-24, 02:33
No more wellness in Amesia, I heard that the plan is to use the space for additional rooms.
Sweden3000
09-27-24, 07:58
Hi,
Anyone who is into group / gangbang and have tried the club saint tropez in Volketswil? It looks like a nice setup?
Thankful for any reviews.
Swede.
This is very surprising; I am a regular Aphrodisia customer and I have met only girls who speak a decent level of English. I can't even imagine how they can survive, if they have problem in communicating (and very few speak German).
If you arrive in the dead times, Aphro can be a bit embarrassing, as you may be the only customer; anybody who stay there more than 15/30 minutes without picking a girl builds the reputation of being a time waster / freeloader, losing therefore credibility with girls or of being a weird person. Of course, if you go there late in the night, where the club is often crowded, nobody will even notice you.
Totally agree; despite what some very naive or full of himself man says, money plays the difference here, not size, sex skills or appearance. The performance, in terms of engagement, between a 2 hours session or a 30 minutes session, especially if you are a recurring customer, is different; who wouldn't agree with the girl?.
I have to say that the entire Zurich area is showing clear signs of decline, in terms of average beauty; Aphro is not spared by this trend. Sign that the club is struggling a bit is the average number of girls, that, since the summer, is regularly below or around 30; the glorious times with 50 girls are gone!.
I can not say that the girls are ugly, they are not, but they miss that something special that you expect to find in these places. However, there are a few gems, for sure above average, as well; they are simply rarer and more difficult to catch than in the past, but if you have a bit of patience, you may have had great sessions with attractive (at least for my eyes) ladies!
Regarding the minor clubs, as far as the beauty is concerned, the difference with the two top clubs, Aphro and Globe is simply striking; at least this is my experience, I can even think of comparing them.
The real difference between Globe and Aphro is that in Globe you can lower your guard and a decent performance is always guaranteed; in Aphro you'd better talk with the girls beforehand to avoid surprises, as the girls are free to do whatever they want. However, it does not matter what the girl does, but how she does; I have had personally my best sessions in Aphrodisia.
Completely agree on Valentina, a true 10+; former volleyball player, almost 180 cm, very toned body with endless legs and super ass, I can't imagine anything better. Only her beauty would be worth the session; but she can also perform, making the session very enjoyable. I find her character a bit too tough and from time to time she turns too professional, but she is a solid recommendation from my side as well.I had Jessi at History and Anais at Swiss who would be among prettiest at Globe, both full natural, not porn dolls, for HH 118/30 at History. Around 20 girls at Aphro now, when I counted more than 50 on my 2018 thursdays visits, real crisis in Zurich city? Guys spend all on cocaine? Girls were staring smiling for hours, when I looked somewhere to hide, but so small and twice from 7 pm to midnight / 1 am, I didn't see many going to room, but more drinking for free. I found Marina more attractive at Amesia than sitting at the bar at Aphro, I could go with her for 340/60 rather than 280/30 .
Sweden3000
09-28-24, 17:02
Hi,
Anyone who is into group / gangbang and have tried the club saint tropez in Volketswil? It looks like a nice setup?
Thankful for any reviews.
Swede.Since no one answered I tried it. Give a 4/5 review. Good concept, nice girls (not Globe standard for looks but very service minded). Were 6-7 guys and from time to time a little orgy atmosphere. Recommend.
Swede.
Thursday 19 - Hit Aphro and in my opinion this is a club where you leave without a session most of the times as you usually never find a girl worthy of the 280 CHF /30 min rate. However sometimes you find a gem and this gem is called Valentina. Ro girl with white skin, tall, blonde and with a very sexy body and face. So I went with her and I had a fantastic session with BBJ with almost two pops in 30 min. Very highly recommended.Glad you found a hot, tall, white blonde.
I think this is the magic formula of mongering in Zurich; you hit Globe then mix it up with Aphro later that evening; the mix of doing so on multiple days seems to throw off the schedule of regulars between the two clubs and the "gems" are found.
I never understood this "Aphro is all the way in Zurich city-center and not convenient."
I travel 6 hours from the USA and find Aphro convenient; even did so from LA after 9 hours; the train / tram connections outside Globe go directly to Aphro!
Having lived in LA for 7 years; sandwiched between actual Hollywood Actresses in Hollywood Hills and Adult film starlets in San Fernando Valley, I found the 10-11's at Aphro still hotter.
Don't miss Aphro on any trip.
Glad you found a hot, tall, white blonde.
I think this is the magic formula of mongering in Zurich; you hit Globe then mix it up with Aphro later that evening; the mix of doing so on multiple days seems to throw off the schedule of regulars between the two clubs and the "gems" are found.
I never understood this "Aphro is all the way in Zurich city-center and not convenient."
I travel 6 hours from the USA and find Aphro convenient; even did so from LA after 9 hours; the train / tram connections outside Globe go directly to Aphro!
Having lived in LA for 7 years; sandwiched between actual Hollywood Actresses in Hollywood Hills and Adult film starlets in San Fernando Valley, I found the 10-11's at Aphro still hotter.
Don't miss Aphro on any trip.For sure, compare to most US, most Romanians are prettier, but You see 10/11 at Aphrodisia? On 20 ? When I was not impressed by looks when were 50 girls seen on my visits. We don t all have same references to judge, when I saw many not fresh natural and closer to late 20 than early. I would not go to Globe nor Aphrodisia in order to find wow fresh natural looks, but more at Amesia where I found some on 2020/2022 . Germany remain best for this for my experience.
PaulInZurich
09-30-24, 14:43
Maybe it's only me, but I would rather trust the regular visitor to Aphro than the guy who last was there 6 years ago.
PaulInZurich
09-30-24, 14:50
Regarding the minor clubs, as far as the beauty is concerned, the difference with the two top clubs, Aphro and Globe is simply striking; at least this is my experience, I can even think of comparing them.
For me, in the smaller clubs, you can on occasion find one or two girls which are doable. What sucks is that they don't rotate very much, so after I went to one of the smaller clubs, normally there is no reason to try again for the next 2 months.
On occasion there will be a few girls starting together in one of the smaller clubs, but more often than not they are disappointing. Last example is Westside, many new names on the TP. Since I was in the area by accident I went in to take a look, but nobody fuckable for me. On the positive side, Chayenne is friendly with clients she recognizes.
For sure, compare to most US, most Romanians are prettier, but You see 10/11 at Aphrodisia? On 20 ? When I was not impressed by looks when were 50 girls seen on my visits. We don t all have same references to judge.Beauty is very subjective, agreed.
However, "Romanian prettier than USA? You may be only person on planet with that view.
Hollywood exists in USA for a reason, not Bucharest.
Regarding my "judgement", I also lived 22 years in NYC, and not in Times Square but in SoHo where most Super models live.
Further, I dated several including cover girls, Elite model search winners, and a Revlon model, that's not counting the FORD and Wilhelmina modeling agencies on my block.
Then I made my way to LA and dated an actress in a Tom Cruise movie, and her own sitcom on NBC. In my off time I dated a model on the cover of Malibu magazine and an adult film star (unbeknownst to me at the time). That's not counting the 25-50 LA women on beach, pools, clubs I slept with who I describe in my '14-'19 posts.
Regarding, Aphro; on my last visit I had a 19 years old who was actually Polish and was an 11.
Again beauty is subjective, and my above examples were chosen by independent third parties that have world renown tastes in female beauty.
Beauty is very subjective, agreed.
However, "Romanian prettier than USA? You may be only person on planet with that view.
Hollywood exists in USA for a reason, not Bucharest.
Regarding my "judgement", I also lived 22 years in NYC, and not in Times Square but in SoHo where most Super models live.
Further, I dated several including cover girls, Elite model search winners, and a Revlon model, that's not counting the FORD and Wilhelmina modeling agencies on my block.
Then I made my way to LA and dated an actress in a Tom Cruise movie, and her own sitcom on NBC. In my off time I dated a model on the cover of Malibu magazine and an adult film star (unbeknownst to me at the time). That's not counting the 25-50 LA women on beach, pools, clubs I slept with who I describe in my '14-'19 posts.
Regarding, Aphro; on my last visit I had a 19 years old who was actually Polish and was an 11.
Again beauty is subjective, and my above examples were chosen by independent third parties that have world renown tastes in female beauty.Didn't You write You found prettier at Aphro than US actresses or models, or porn dolls, when 95% at Aphro are Romanian. Now around 20 girls, when they were more than 50 when I visited and I was not impressed by looks seen on more than 10 hours spent. But I was also really not impressed in Miami Beach or Las Vegas or San Francisco. Lack of freshness at Aphro like at Globe, too professionnal, compare to Amesia, History.
For me, in the smaller clubs, you can on occasion find one or two girls which are doable. What sucks is that they don't rotate very much, so after I went to one of the smaller clubs, normally there is no reason to try again for the next 2 months.
On occasion there will be a few girls starting together in one of the smaller clubs, but more often than not they are disappointing. Last example is Westside, many new names on the TP. Since I was in the area by accident I went in to take a look, but nobody fuckable for me. On the positive side, Chayenne is friendly with clients she recognizes.Thanks for the update on Westside. Things improved a lot since Chayenne is in charge there. But on days when she is not there, the atmosphere is terrible (especially the attitude of the girls towards men. It felt like Globe 2 years ago, I am happy in Schwerzenbach this is improved a lot now! Will retry when in the area, but there a not many good options in Westside to session with.
Regarding, Aphro; on my last visit I had a 19 years old who was actually Polish and was an 11.
Was her name Malinda? My latest girl at Aphro was Polish and she was indeed stunning, but I would have put her at 22-25.
Is there a rising trend of Polish girls woking at Aphro these days? Would be nice if true. Poles tend to be natural, pretty, kind and provide good service.
Was her name Malinda? My latest girl at Aphro was Polish and she was indeed stunning, but I would have put her at 22-25.
Is there a rising trend of Polish girls woking at Aphro these days? Would be nice if true. Poles tend to be natural, pretty, kind and provide good service.Anything that's not Romanian would be nice. Nothing against the individual Romanian of course but more variety would be nice.
Anything that's not Romanian would be nice. Nothing against the individual Romanian of course but more variety would be nice.When I loved Romanian natural beauties for years, but I don t trust anymore new generation and I find too many small pussy now. At Sharks, I target Germans.
Marelobo Mex
10-04-24, 06:19
When I loved Romanian natural beauties for years, but I don t trust anymore new generation and I find too many small pussy now. At Sharks, I target Germans.I am confused you are complaining her pussy being too small? I prefer a small pussy. I usually complain if her pussy is too big.
Maybe this reflects more about my size than the girls?
I am confused you are complaining her pussy being too small? I prefer a small pussy. I usually complain if her pussy is too big.
Maybe this reflects more about my size than the girls?I m not Asian nor a Turkish rabbit, but a fucker not finishing in 5 minutes and I find most Romanians are now not able to fuck, arching back in doggy, holding condom to prevent to go deep, even those taller than 170 . And when arabic market money talk kill GFE I need to enjoy sex, when Germans were quite robotic years ago, but now, I trust more Germans to follow my GFE. I can t also accept little Romanians looks to ask more expensive than German escorts, I let them to old Germans crazy for schoolgirls. Small pussy is different than tight You need to start slowly to open, but You can fuck, when vagina average depth is 8/10 cms for Caucasians, I don t know for Asian women, I know only their little bird moaning.
Thanks for the update on Westside. Things improved a lot since Chayenne is in charge there....Chayenne no longer works in Westside. She is back in the Globe staff.
Chayenne no longer works in Westside. She is back in the Globe staff.Ah, good to know. Let's see if it is still worhtwhile then to visit Frauenfeld. Last 2 visits (when Cheyenne was not there, but still "in charge") were terrible in attitude of the girls.
Ah, good to know. Let's see if it is still worhtwhile then to visit Frauenfeld. Last 2 visits (when Cheyenne was not there, but still "in charge") were terrible in attitude of the girls.Me too I did find the girls really absent in Westside, not interested at all in new clients. Why? Odd. Place is so good but seems like these girls are descouraging newcomers and just want to deal with regular locals! Weird at least.
Not sure if these kinds of things are still useful, but I think as a Zurich "tourist" I would have benefited from reading some of the things I have to say, so here it is.
The last time I punted in Zurich was. 14 years ago (see here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=1079642&viewfull=1#post1079642), when I briefly visited a place now closed called Club 79 (and had a great time). I'm now above 50, and with a lot of experience behind me in terms of sex (both with normies and escorts), and I wanted to check how the legendary reputation of Aphrodisia and Globe would fare in comparison with it.
TL; DR: Aphrodisia disappointed, Globe didn't.
I visited the former this past Wednesday. For people who have never been there, the place is a classic brothel with a bar on the ground floor, and rooms on the upper floor (or floors, I'm not sure). The bar area is quite small and cramped, and the place is uncomfortably hot (maybe to discourage punters from spending too long drinking free drinks at the bar). About 20 girls were waiting in the room, some preparing drinks or sitting on the sill behind the bar, some on the stools around the counter, a couple on some stools next to the wall that's further away from the entrance. The dense environment with the presence of so many girls in such a little space can easily feel intimidating, and in fact an American punter sitting at the bar started talking to me as soon as I arrived asking me if I was a regular and how the thing worked, because he was dumbfounded by the situation. I explained to him what I had read on ISG, and told him that he would have to approach a girl and talk to her first, as the girls are not allowed to approach punters.
I looked around, and was quite disappointed by what I saw. Most of the girls looked bored to death and sulky, except a couple that were talking to each other. At a first glance, the lineup seemed disappointing: most of the girls were overly siliconated Romanians with aggressive looks and jaded expressions. Lots of tall, curvy, big-boobed and big-assed bad girls. Not exactly my style, particularly the couple who looked trans (I spoke to one later, who also sounded trans, so maybe she was). The girls mostly stay seated at the same place for hours, which makes it hard to evaluate them, and makes the whole situation more difficult than it should.
I was starting to feel despair when I noticed a cute and beautiful brunette sitting on the side (Lori). Slim, tall and with a fresh look, she was my type. I approached her, exchanged a few words to confirm services (particularly if she would do french kiss) and we were up in the room. The rooms are big and relatively elegant, and the temperature was a lot more acceptable. Lori directed me to the bathroom to take a shower (she also did, but in a separate room), and we were soon back in the room. I won't waste too many words to describe the total disappointment. Lori is a classic case of woman who's chosen the wrong profession. She's cute and probably a nice person, but she absolutely goes through the motions and she makes the punter feel as if she is graciously tolerating him. Absolutely zero chemistry (at least with me), made worse by the fact that she lied to me about providing french kiss (I had some lazy tight-lipped pecks on the mouth instead), that she constantly kept a hand on the condom, that she couldn't take a decent pounding, etc. Despite a good twenty minutes of trying I couldn't come (it doesn't happen often) so I got back downstairs pretty disgruntled.
I was pondering whether to stay or leave, and ended up waiting a while, getting one more drink. After a few minutes, a strikingly hot woman entered the room and sat on the sill at the opposite end of the room to me. Slim, with a perfect ass and perfect breast, long legs, a somewhat haughty but extremely elegant face, long wavy brunette hair. I was instantly captured and tried to catch her eyes from a distance but she didn't seem to reciprocate my stare. I wondered if maybe she was the kind of girl that only meets regulars, and a few minutes later she was indeed gone. I was disappointed, but encouraged by the fact that at least one really attractive girl showed up (I would rate her a 9, Lori a 8, and most of the other women present between 5 and 7) I decided to wait. The wait was mostly frustrating, but I ended up staying for more than 30 minutes, at which point the girl showed up again, and walked straight in front of me, elegant as a queen. I jumped from the sofa I was sitting on and stopped her, asking her to sit with me to talk for a minute. She introduced herself as "Amanda", and talked to me with a markedly suspicious attitude. I asked her as well about services, and told her I had been disappointed by how the first girl lied about french kissing. Amanda told me that they tend not to do it because men stuff their tongue violently down their throats, and made the example of the previous punter, who apparently had hurt her. She seemed to size me, worried about whether I might be a similar risk, so I tried to reassure her, and we ended up heading for the room.
I must say that the experience was markedly better: Amanda made me cum, kissing me in a way slightly more resembling to real FK (with some mid-agape mouth and tip of the tongues contact.), got involved in the action a lot more, seemed to warm up a little and was slightly less worried about the condom when I was in the deep of the act. She was also nicer to talk to, telling me that she was relatively new to the place (if I remember correctly) and discussing a little about her past.
Overall, the experience at Aphrodisia was disappointing: even with the slightly better performance by Amanda, the whole thing wasn't worthy the hefty price tag. Lori's performance wasn't better than what I used to get on the streets of Milan for 50 euros in the early 2000's, and Amanda's was only marginally better.
With this in mind, I was expecting a similar disappointment from Globe the following day (Thursday). But I was surprised.
Globe was in fact the closest thing to heaven I can honestly imagine. From the moment I entered the place, where three of the most mind-bendingly hot women I had ever seen were charging their customers for their just ended sessions, I started drooling behind an incredible series of (previously) inconceivably beautiful women, walking around nonchalantly in minuscule tongs and impossibly high stilettos.
The place is quite big, with a pole dancing area in the middle, a relatively big bar on the side, lots of sofas (on one of which a guy was getting blown by a couple of goddesses while I entered), a restaurant area (that I didn't have time to visit) on the upper floor, and a sauna / spa area.
For about half an hour I had my jaw constantly drop while walking around and spotting one woman after another that I could have wanted to marry, let alone fuck for 150 CHF (or 100 if I didn't want french kiss and 69). At some point an absolute marvel of nature walked in and was instantly circled by a number of hungry punters. I thought that I would have never been able to beat the competition and get to her, but after a while she extricated herself from the group and started walking away. I followed her, and mustered the courage to approach and talk to her. Her name was Annabelle, and she honestly looked like a blinding beauty to me. Too bad for the enhanced breasts, but other than that everything else screamed absolute perfection to me. I told her about how important french kissing is to me, and she reassured me with a smile. I could sense this would be good, and we ran to one of the bedrooms upstairs. Good it was: Annabelle was sublime in everything, and 30 minutes with her would by themselves justify the trip to Zurich (I'm thinking of going back soon). She kissed me like I'm the last man on heart, sucked my cock with unparalleled skill, and had me fuck her in a bunch of position without flinching in the fact of my frantic enthusiasm. I sometimes struggle to come, these days, but with her I had to constantly push my orgasm back. I came like a train.
Back to the party area, I waited for about 10 minutes ogling the other women, when I noticed one that, despite excessively pumped lips and tits, seemed extremely attractive to me for some reason. Her name was (if I understood correctly) Vivienne, and a quick conversation with her reassured me that we would have a good chemistry. She didn't disappoint, providing more or less the same quality of experience as Annabelle, and while I didn't manage to come it was surely not for lack of trying on her part. She graciously accepted one of the most thunderous poundings ever, as I frantically raised the pace to the point of risking a heart attack, really intent in coming (in the condom) in that pussy. I failed, but it was still a lot of fun.
Overall, Globe was exactly how a punting experience should be: lots and lots (maybe 40? 50?) of dazzingly attractive women walking around naked and ready to fuck you with a smile and apparently also having fun in the process. Worth the trip from anywhere in the world.
Average for very expensive at Aphrodisia? But when You are drugged on bar or party, then You are less demanding for quality.
PaulInZurich
10-22-24, 15:21
Her name was Annabelle ... Too bad for the enhanced breastsAnnabelle did a few months in Amesia before Globe, too bad that very early in her career she put on fake boobs. She is not yet 20.
Not sure if these kinds of things are still useful, but I think as a Zurich "tourist" I would have benefited from reading some of the things I have to say, so here it is.
TL; DR: Aphrodisia disappointed, Globe didn't.
Thanks for your detailed post. I must say however that your experience at Aphro at least for me reinforces a positive trend I have posted about in recent months. The fact that you saw within a few hours of a Wednesday visit, three girls that you ranked 8-9 is a pretty good hit rate. At its peak, posters here would write about a handful of 9's and every once in a while you'd see an illusive 10. That was my experience during the 2017-2020 period.
But the point I am making is that during the 2020-2023 period Aphro was down in the dumps and was having a really hard time bringing the girls back. 2024 has been a marked improvement in terms of line up, both quantity and quality. Now your point about service is fair. Aphro is not globe and so girls can get away with low service, and unfortunately the only motivator for better service is longer rooms. So unless you are ready to dole out cash at one hour intervals to keep her motivated it can be a gamble.
Thanks for your detailed post. I must say however that your experience at Aphro at least for me reinforces a positive trend I have posted about in recent months. The fact that you saw within a few hours of a Wednesday visit, three girls that you ranked 8-9 is a pretty good hit rate. At its peak, posters here would write about a handful of 9's and every once in a while you'd see an illusive 10. That was my experience during the 2017-2020 period.
But the point I am making is that during the 2020-2023 period Aphro was down in the dumps and was having a really hard time bringing the girls back. 2024 has been a marked improvement in terms of line up, both quantity and quality. Now your point about service is fair. Aphro is not globe and so girls can get away with low service, and unfortunately the only motivator for better service is longer rooms. So unless you are ready to dole out cash at one hour intervals to keep her motivated it can be a gamble.Accurate analysis.
Aphro manager told me they were very hard hit during COVID ('20-'22) for customers and girls.
Even in '23 when I went it was still recovering.
Not sure if these kinds of things are still useful, but I think as a Zurich "tourist" I would have benefited from reading some of the things I have to say, so here it is.
The last time I punted in Zurich was. 14 years ago (see here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=1079642&viewfull=1#post1079642), when I briefly visited a place now closed called Club 79 (and had a great time). I'm now above 50, and with a lot of experience behind me in terms of sex (both with normies and escorts), and I wanted to check how the legendary reputation of Aphrodisia and Globe would fare in comparison with it.
TL; DR: Aphrodisia disappointed, Globe didn't.
I visited the former this past Wednesday. For people who have never been there, the place is a classic brothel with a bar on the ground floor, and rooms on the upper floor (or floors, I'm not sure). The bar area is quite small and cramped, and the place is uncomfortably hot (maybe to discourage punters from spending too long drinking free drinks at the bar). About 20 girls were waiting in the room, some preparing drinks or sitting on the sill behind the bar, some on the stools around the counter, a couple on some stools next to the wall that's further away from the entrance. The dense environment with the presence of so many girls in such a little space can easily feel intimidating, and in fact an American punter sitting at the bar started talking to me as soon as I arrived asking me if I was a regular and how the thing worked, because he was dumbfounded by the situation. I explained to him what I had read on ISG, and told him that he would have to approach a girl and talk to her first, as the girls are not allowed to approach punters.
I looked around, and was quite disappointed by what I saw. Most of the girls looked bored to death and sulky, except a couple that were talking to each other. At a first glance, the lineup seemed disappointing: most of the girls were overly siliconated Romanians with aggressive looks and jaded expressions. Lots of tall, curvy, big-boobed and big-assed bad girls. Not exactly my style, particularly the couple who looked trans (I spoke to one later, who also sounded trans, so maybe she was). The girls mostly stay seated at the same place for hours, which makes it hard to evaluate them, and makes the whole situation more difficult than it should.
I was starting to feel despair when I noticed a cute and beautiful brunette sitting on the side (Lori). Slim, tall and with a fresh look, she was my type. I approached her, exchanged a few words to confirm services (particularly if she would do french kiss) and we were up in the room. The rooms are big and relatively elegant, and the temperature was a lot more acceptable. Lori directed me to the bathroom to take a shower (she also did, but in a separate room), and we were soon back in the room. I won't waste too many words to describe the total disappointment. Lori is a classic case of woman who's chosen the wrong profession. She's cute and probably a nice person, but she absolutely goes through the motions and she makes the punter feel as if she is graciously tolerating him. Absolutely zero chemistry (at least with me), made worse by the fact that she lied to me about providing french kiss (I had some lazy tight-lipped pecks on the mouth instead), that she constantly kept a hand on the condom, that she couldn't take a decent pounding, etc. Despite a good twenty minutes of trying I couldn't come (it doesn't happen often) so I got back downstairs pretty disgruntled.
I was pondering whether to stay or leave, and ended up waiting a while, getting one more drink. After a few minutes, a strikingly hot woman entered the room and sat on the sill at the opposite end of the room to me. Slim, with a perfect ass and perfect breast, long legs, a somewhat haughty but extremely elegant face, long wavy brunette hair. I was instantly captured and tried to catch her eyes from a distance but she didn't seem to reciprocate my stare. I wondered if maybe she was the kind of girl that only meets regulars, and a few minutes later she was indeed gone. I was disappointed, but encouraged by the fact that at least one really attractive girl showed up (I would rate her a 9, Lori a 8, and most of the other women present between 5 and 7) I decided to wait. The wait was mostly frustrating, but I ended up staying for more than 30 minutes, at which point the girl showed up again, and walked straight in front of me, elegant as a queen. I jumped from the sofa I was sitting on and stopped her, asking her to sit with me to talk for a minute. She introduced herself as "Amanda", and talked to me with a markedly suspicious attitude. I asked her as well about services, and told her I had been disappointed by how the first girl lied about french kissing. Amanda told me that they tend not to do it because men stuff their tongue violently down their throats, and made the example of the previous punter, who apparently had hurt her. She seemed to size me, worried about whether I might be a similar risk, so I tried to reassure her, and we ended up heading for the room.
I must say that the experience was markedly better: Amanda made me cum, kissing me in a way slightly more resembling to real FK (with some mid-agape mouth and tip of the tongues contact.), got involved in the action a lot more, seemed to warm up a little and was slightly less worried about the condom when I was in the deep of the act. She was also nicer to talk to, telling me that she was relatively new to the place (if I remember correctly) and discussing a little about her past.
Overall, the experience at Aphrodisia was disappointing: even with the slightly better performance by Amanda, the whole thing wasn't worthy the hefty price tag. Lori's performance wasn't better than what I used to get on the streets of Milan for 50 euros in the early 2000's, and Amanda's was only marginally better.
With this in mind, I was expecting a similar disappointment from Globe the following day (Thursday). But I was surprised.
Globe was in fact the closest thing to heaven I can honestly imagine. From the moment I entered the place, where three of the most mind-bendingly hot women I had ever seen were charging their customers for their just ended sessions, I started drooling behind an incredible series of (previously) inconceivably beautiful women, walking around nonchalantly in minuscule tongs and impossibly high stilettos.
The place is quite big, with a pole dancing area in the middle, a relatively big bar on the side, lots of sofas (on one of which a guy was getting blown by a couple of goddesses while I entered), a restaurant area (that I didn't have time to visit) on the upper floor, and a sauna / spa area.
For about half an hour I had my jaw constantly drop while walking around and spotting one woman after another that I could have wanted to marry, let alone fuck for 150 CHF (or 100 if I didn't want french kiss and 69). At some point an absolute marvel of nature walked in and was instantly circled by a number of hungry punters. I thought that I would have never been able to beat the competition and get to her, but after a while she extricated herself from the group and started walking away. I followed her, and mustered the courage to approach and talk to her. Her name was Annabelle, and she honestly looked like a blinding beauty to me. Too bad for the enhanced breasts, but other than that everything else screamed absolute perfection to me. I told her about how important french kissing is to me, and she reassured me with a smile. I could sense this would be good, and we ran to one of the bedrooms upstairs. Good it was: Annabelle was sublime in everything, and 30 minutes with her would by themselves justify the trip to Zurich (I'm thinking of going back soon). She kissed me like I'm the last man on heart, sucked my cock with unparalleled skill, and had me fuck her in a bunch of position without flinching in the fact of my frantic enthusiasm. I sometimes struggle to come, these days, but with her I had to constantly push my orgasm back. I came like a train.
Back to the party area, I waited for about 10 minutes ogling the other women, when I noticed one that, despite excessively pumped lips and tits, seemed extremely attractive to me for some reason. Her name was (if I understood correctly) Vivienne, and a quick conversation with her reassured me that we would have a good chemistry. She didn't disappoint, providing more or less the same quality of experience as Annabelle, and while I didn't manage to come it was surely not for lack of trying on her part. She graciously accepted one of the most thunderous poundings ever, as I frantically raised the pace to the point of risking a heart attack, really intent in coming (in the condom) in that pussy. I failed, but it was still a lot of fun.
Overall, Globe was exactly how a punting experience should be: lots and lots (maybe 40? 50?) of dazzingly attractive women walking around naked and ready to fuck you with a smile and apparently also having fun in the process. Worth the trip from anywhere in the world.Great report!
Visiting both Globe AND Aphro should be required for all trips.
Not sure why most don't do this v. Spending more time talking to bald guys at wok or fat women at home.
Thanks for your detailed post. I must say however that your experience at Aphro at least for me reinforces a positive trend I have posted about in recent months. The fact that you saw within a few hours of a Wednesday visit, three girls that you ranked 8-9 is a pretty good hit rate. At its peak, posters here would write about a handful of 9's and every once in a while you'd see an illusive 10. That was my experience during the 2017-2020 period.
But the point I am making is that during the 2020-2023 period Aphro was down in the dumps and was having a really hard time bringing the girls back. 2024 has been a marked improvement in terms of line up, both quantity and quality. Now your point about service is fair. Aphro is not globe and so girls can get away with low service, and unfortunately the only motivator for better service is longer rooms. So unless you are ready to dole out cash at one hour intervals to keep her motivated it can be a gamble.I think mostly Romanians at Aphrodisia, like at Globe, when level for new Romanians really fell since covid, most now small pussies not able to really fuck.
PaulInZurich
10-25-24, 12:16
Aphro manager told me they were very hard hit during COVID ('20-'22) for customers and girls.
Even in '23 when I went it was still recovering.Did the Aphro manager say anything about the reasons why he gets less girls? How do they recruit?
Did the Aphro manager say anything about the reasons why he gets less girls? How do they recruit?Manager is a lady; her name is Beatte, and I have known her for 10 yrs.
She doesn't go into details; except it was the decline of in-office in zurich that drove drop in demand.
Failure of Credit Suisse and layoffs at UBS next door didn't help recovery.
Girls left with no business.
ShoesAndSocks
11-05-24, 07:19
Girls left with no business.In other Zurich news, I have just read elsewhere that Club Medusa (formerly Club Rouge?) closed down (again) at the end of October. I have no doubt a lack of customers would be the big factor there too.
I recently reviewed my attendance figures at Globe since 2013.
During 2013-2016, I averaged 25 days per annum.
During 2017-2019, I ramped it up to 40+ (and then in 2020-2021 I was MIA due to Covid).
During 2022-2024, I dropped down to around 10.
The determining feature in each era was the appeal of the line-up.
This is the current dilemma. We stay away because the girls aren't there. They stay away because we aren't there spending money. Neither party has the goodwill to move first to change things around..
In other Zurich news, I have just read elsewhere that Club Medusa (formerly Club Rouge?) closed down (again) at the end of October. I have no doubt a lack of customers would be the big factor there too.
I recently reviewed my attendance figures at Globe since 2013.
During 2013-2016, I averaged 25 days per annum.
During 2017-2019, I ramped it up to 40+ (and then in 2020-2021 I was MIA due to Covid).
During 2022-2024, I dropped down to around 10.
The determining feature in each era was the appeal of the line-up.
This is the current dilemma. We stay away because the girls aren't there. They stay away because we aren't there spending money. Neither party has the goodwill to move first to change things around..It's not a matter of goodwill. It's a matter of good business practices. If Globe wants to survive, then it needs to mind its P's & Q's (Prices & Quality). If it can't, then it will fail and close like the rest. It's as simple as that. Offer customers quality at a competitive price and thrive. Or try to gouge them with poor quality and fail!
Manager is a lady; her name is Beatte, and I have known her for 10 yrs.
She doesn't go into details; except it was the decline of in-office in zurich that drove drop in demand.
Failure of Credit Suisse and layoffs at UBS next door didn't help recovery.
Girls left with no business.If manager has big experience in this business, is not she able to understand girls rates are too expensive for looks quality, when Aphro girls are not prettier and on average less fresh than in Germany. Mostly only Romanians when new Romanian generation fell for quality for elegant woman look and now many small pussy. Almost same problem at Globe, more expensive 160€/30 when I paid 130€/30 for Kate, for lower looks, charm and elegance, no dream now, they don t claim anymore about wow experience, when they need to attract voyeurs, to make events on week, no more upselling for party and Halloween for 3 days. When ZH and SZ are still very rich, but most people are not so stupid to accept to pay too expensive for low quality. Managements made falling quality, when I m fully sure chic and elegance attract higher potential guys than porn and public sex for frustrated. I think they get what they made and their selection now don t worth rate.
PaulInZurich
11-05-24, 13:06
... it was the decline of in-office in zurich that drove drop in demand.
Failure of Credit Suisse and layoffs at UBS next door didn't help recovery.
Girls left with no business.I suppose the people who work at Google are less depraved than the bankers.
It's not a matter of goodwill. It's a matter of good business practices. If Globe wants to survive, then it needs to mind its P's & Q's (Prices & Quality). If it can't, then it will fail and close like the rest. It's as simple as that. Offer customers quality at a competitive price and thrive. Or try to gouge them with poor quality and fail!I don't think Globe will close, when daughter should keep on the business, but with their now low level for selection and culture for porn, they just lose business, nothing about crisis, when ZH and SZ are still very rich, but yes, now too expensive for falling quality.
PaulInZurich
11-05-24, 20:46
In other Zurich news, I have just read elsewhere that Club Medusa (formerly Club Rouge?) closed down (again) at the end of October. I have no doubt a lack of customers would be the big factor there too.
Not a surprise. After the opening they never had more than 8 girls, with very little rotation of the lineup. I still believe if they would have rotated the top 30% girls from Freubad chain, they would have had a chance.
So we are back to the old situation in Zurich, not enough competition.
I suppose the people who work at Google are less depraved than the bankers.They're not but their kinks are different.
Interesting too for me who has never been there but thinking about it if bankers are or used to be common there. That indicates what persona I need to use there (I guess).
In other Zurich news, I have just read elsewhere that Club Medusa (formerly Club Rouge?) closed down (again) at the end of October. I have no doubt a lack of customers would be the big factor there too.
I recently reviewed my attendance figures at Globe since 2013.
During 2013-2016, I averaged 25 days per annum.
During 2017-2019, I ramped it up to 40+ (and then in 2020-2021 I was MIA due to Covid).
During 2022-2024, I dropped down to around 10.
The determining feature in each era was the appeal of the line-up.
This is the current dilemma. We stay away because the girls aren't there. They stay away because we aren't there spending money. Neither party has the goodwill to move first to change things around..Almost same here. Starting at 20+ visits per annum, back to 10+ and now even less. Only due to decrease of lineup.
ShoesAndSocks
11-06-24, 11:01
Almost same here. Starting at 20+ visits per annum, back to 10+ and now even less. Only due to decrease of lineup.I don't really have any quick solutions to offer. I'm sure the clubs would love to attract and retain stronger LUs, and would be trying their best to do so.
I tend to be reactive and just go with the flow. When things are great I'll indulge as much as I can, when they're not I'll spend my overseas time & money enjoying other pursuits.
One thing I'm certain of, it will be different in 3-5 years time. What is entirely unclear is whether it will be better or worse.
They're not but their kinks are different.
Interesting too for me who has never been there but thinking about it if bankers are or used to be common there. That indicates what persona I need to use there (I guess).Even when they earn big money, most guys won't pay so expensive for no dream. You pay expensive, to dream, not just to empty balls with average Romanians who are at the end of their business road, or you could have for half rate, more fresh in other clubs. Zurich is falling for quality and now too expensive for value. Even GG closing is big loss for me, but I will search and will find fresh beauties for much better value for quality and money, I'm good for this, when not playing tourist.
PaulInZurich
11-06-24, 17:38
They're not but their kinks are different.
Interesting too for me who has never been there but thinking about it if bankers are or used to be common there. That indicates what persona I need to use there (I guess).At work I know bankers and I know software engineers.
Investment bankers are the "worst". In the "old days" I know of entire teams going together in a strip club and dropping some solid change on strippers, champagne and cocaine after a good bonus day.
Wealth managers are not as bad. But I know as well in the "old days" of wealth managers arranging escorts for big clients in St Moritz and the like. This wouldn't fly anymore in Switzerland since a few years.
Not all software engineers are introverts living behind a computer screen, but I didn't hear about groups of them doing the same things that bankers did.
I don't really have any quick solutions to offer. I'm sure the clubs would love to attract and retain stronger LUs, and would be trying their best to do so.
I tend to be reactive and just go with the flow. When things are great I'll indulge as much as I can, when they're not I'll spend my overseas time & money enjoying other pursuits.
One thing I'm certain of, it will be different in 3-5 years time. What is entirely unclear is whether it will be better or worse.Chances are high it will get worse. Look at how things changed over the years. Prices were really high many years ago. Then the golden age started when the iron curtain fell and we got a lot of talent coming from all different countries and they were driving pricing down. Also FKK's started and made it easier and safer to make good money with lower hourly rates. Countries got richer and now you see mainly Romanians where the income is still low. Also I rather don't start the gypsie discussion. This will eventually come to an end with higher incomes there as well. Baring another new country I don't see it getting better.
Also look at Asia (e. G. Thailand or Philippines) how much the rates went up.
After COVID punters were happy to get back and didn't care as much about costs. After this happened the high prices stayed, look at Germany with Sharks being the primary example. We are still lucky in Switzerland that pricing did not change much or with the crazy price competition between Zeus and Palace even went down.
So in general I am pessimistic and let's enjoy before it gets worse. Also let's not pretend all was much better in the old days. If you can remember Switzerland 25 or more years ago (I can) it was much worse. We had a couple golden years.
I am still good with the talent I find and especially like the service level I get in Switzerland. I have a bigger issue with Globe that the best talent is easily locked up by long term bookers and also has now higher expectations and does not like 30 minute rooms anymore. This is also a form of inflation.
Chances are high it will get worse. Look at how things changed over the years. Prices were really high many years ago. Then the golden age started when the iron curtain fell and we got a lot of talent coming from all different countries and they were driving pricing down. Also FKK's started and made it easier and safer to make good money with lower hourly rates. Countries got richer and now you see mainly Romanians where the income is still low. Also I rather don't start the gypsie discussion. This will eventually come to an end with higher incomes there as well. Baring another new country I don't see it getting better.
Also look at Asia (e. G. Thailand or Philippines) how much the rates went up.
After COVID punters were happy to get back and didn't care as much about costs. After this happened the high prices stayed, look at Germany with Sharks being the primary example. We are still lucky in Switzerland that pricing did not change much or with the crazy price competition between Zeus and Palace even went down.
So in general I am pessimistic and let's enjoy before it gets worse. Also let's not pretend all was much better in the old days. If you can remember Switzerland 25 or more years ago (I can) it was much worse. We had a couple golden years.
I am still good with the talent I find and especially like the service level I get in Switzerland. I have a bigger issue with Globe that the best talent is easily locked up by long term bookers and also has now higher expectations and does not like 30 minute rooms anymore. This is also a form of inflation.When I just lost my best quality club in whole FKK land for 150/60 , closed by polizei on Saturday, but from my knowledge of FKK land and my way, I m still optimistic to find to dream in FKK land, in Germany where Sharks is only 1 club among so many others and was even good surprised at Wellcum / Andiamo on this Summer. Unfortunately, Globe since 2021 is below 2016/2018 , when more expensive. Same than at Sharks now, more expensive for lower quality.
PaulInZurich
11-07-24, 12:16
Almost same here. Starting at 20+ visits per annum, back to 10+ and now even less. Only due to decrease of lineup.Due to less visits the balance of my account for discretionary spending keeps increasing. Can't leave the money there unused, since I spend less on WGs I need to find some toys to buy.
Sebastiane
11-09-24, 23:04
It's interesting that neither the influx of a million refugees in Germany not long ago nor the war in Ukraine has led to any of these ending up in either German or Swiss clubs?
It's interesting that neither the influx of a million refugees in Germany not long ago nor the war in Ukraine has led to any of these ending up in either German or Swiss clubs?We had a Ukrainian refugee who was a real tornado in bed at Sharks, but need registration to work in Germany, when Ukraine or Republic of Moldavia don t belong to EU. When Putin closed Russia, now mostly Ukrainian escorts in Paris. I was happy to find one so beautiful who was written about some restrictions, but I didn t experience on our discovery. She told me not war in Odessa where she lives but only in harbor and no Russians in Dniepro center where she was born. I was happy for Ukrainians.
PaulInZurich
11-10-24, 15:21
So in general I am pessimistic and let's enjoy before it gets worse. Also let's not pretend all was much better in the old days. If you can remember Switzerland 25 or more years ago (I can) it was much worse. We had a couple golden years.It's a supply and demand issue. Demand is more or less constant. Supply is decreasing as long as the economy in Eastern Europe is not doing worse.
Newton York
11-10-24, 23:54
I was a big proponent for legalized prostitution, but everywhere where it is legal now, the prices are going out of control. Obviously Switzerland it's pricey enough that it's beyond the reach of normal people. Even Geylang in Singapore is getting pricier. I'm always going to defend Thailand's model, cause it's technically illegal, but no one gives 2 fucks and sad sack losers like me can actually afford it, even with the long flights and hotels factored in.
It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to, to fuck some hot pussy.
Newton York
11-10-24, 23:57
At work I know bankers and I know software engineers.
Investment bankers are the "worst". In the "old days" I know of entire teams going together in a strip club and dropping some solid change on strippers, champagne and cocaine after a good bonus day.
Wealth managers are not as bad. But I know as well in the "old days" of wealth managers arranging escorts for big clients in St Moritz and the like. This wouldn't fly anymore in Switzerland since a few years.
Not all software engineers are introverts living behind a computer screen, but I didn't hear about groups of them doing the same things that bankers did.Investment bankers or engineers, high powered executives or even doctors, they're all the same. When no one is watching, they are as degenerate as any of us. Even more so, cause they can afford much more than any of us peasants can. It's a sad existence for a lot of us without money, I always say, it's not so much I wish I was dead, it's more I wish I was never born.
I was a big proponent for legalized prostitution, but everywhere where it is legal now, the prices are going out of control. Obviously Switzerland it's pricey enough that it's beyond the reach of normal people. Even Geylang in Singapore is getting pricier. I'm always going to defend Thailand's model, cause it's technically illegal, but no one gives 2 fucks and sad sack losers like me can actually afford it, even with the long flights and hotels factored in.
It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to, to fuck some hot pussy.I have a french friend getting LT with 2 rounds with around 20 yo in Pattaya for maximum 100 € and some girls even for free.
Investment bankers or engineers, high powered executives or even doctors, they're all the same. When no one is watching, they are as degenerate as any of us. Even more so, cause they can afford much more than any of us peasants can. It's a sad existence for a lot of us without money, I always say, it's not so much I wish I was dead, it's more I wish I was never born.Was in Aphro last Thursday evening, quite busy around 10 pm, was informed by one of the girls some guys party right through the night and day, as long as +24 hrs! Moneybags eh.
Was in Aphro last Thursday evening, quite busy around 10 pm, was informed by one of the girls some guys party right through the night and day, as long as +24 hrs! Moneybags eh.After club closing at 3 am? Yes, I think many guys come more for partying with cocaine than for fucking. Easier for girls pussy. I remember when Globe staff waited for us, when we finished and showered after 3 am. Light was on in club, like at Wellcum on this Summer.
PaulInZurich
11-11-24, 18:16
I was a big proponent for legalized prostitution, but everywhere where it is legal now, the prices are going out of control. Obviously Switzerland it's pricey enough that it's beyond the reach of normal people.I disagree with this. I don't think that price increases are linked to prostitution being legal. Prices in Switzerland were much much higher before 2005 let's say. Since then prices are pretty stable.
Prostitution out of reach of normal people? There are clubs where it's CHF 90 for 30 minutes. Of course, don't expect supermodels working there. An unqualified worker in a supermarket makes CHF 4400 per month.
DwayneJohnson
11-13-24, 11:09
Can anyone please let me know about seeking sugarbaby price range? I mean what's considered as an acceptable pay per meet allowance. I tried seeking in Nordic region and 400 euro per short meeting (dinner date+sex) was considered good enough for most of the girls. Zurich being more expensive in terms of cost of living, I would think seeking girls will look for more money but not sure what should be my initial offer that they don't dismiss it right away.
ShoesAndSocks
11-29-24, 17:16
Not a surprise. After the opening they never had more than 8 girls, with very little rotation of the lineup. I still believe if they would have rotated the top 30% girls from Freubad chain, they would have had a chance.
So we are back to the old situation in Zurich, not enough competition.There is a very interesting new video under Ingo's YouTube channel discussing the demise of Club Medusa.
He covers the costs involved with starting up a new club and/or re-starting in an existing property, including guaranteeing earnings for girls during the first year. The numbers are daunting, and in the current environment I'd say the chances of a new club starting up in Zurich anytime soon are pretty much zero.
No wonder that BITCCI outfit never got close to establishing a single club.
He covers the costs involved with starting up a new club and/or re-starting in an existing property, including guaranteeing earnings for girls during the first year. The numbers are daunting, and in the current environment I'd say the chances of a new club starting up in Zurich anytime soon are pretty much zero.Thanks for highlighting.
If you could summarize a few bullets on "the costs" for us non-german speakers.
The guaranteeing first year almost sounds like banker comp.
ShoesAndSocks
12-01-24, 08:02
Thanks for highlighting.
If you could summarize a few bullets on "the costs" for us non-german speakers.
The guaranteeing first year almost sounds like banker comp.In YouTube, if you turn on the Subtitles/CC option and select German to English auto-translate, you get a decent translation of the Swiss German they are speaking. This is what I am able to get out of it.
First point Ingo makes is the current market is saturated. I take that to mean there aren't enough customers for the existing clubs, let alone a new/restarted one.
He then mentions how much it would cost to establish a club like Medusa by first ensuring girls sign up and stick around long enough to hopefully attract a loyal client base ...
- 25 girls need a guaranteed 1,000 francs per day, with 200 coming from clients and the remaining 800 from the club.
- monthly 25 x 800 x 30 = 600,000 francs (650,000 including VAT).
- over first 6 months (or maybe stretched to 12 months if the club starts to fire and 50% ends up coming from growing attendance) you're looking at near 4M francs to keep the girls happy.
- you want to pay this only to "good" performers, and finding them is a further challenge.
- no bank would loan this money.
He doesn't mention it, probably because it's obvious, but there would be other costs like staff wages, advertising, etc.
Establishing a brand new club ...
- 1,000 square metres at 4,000 francs per sqm = 4M to build/outfit a new club.
- very difficult but maybe possible to arrange a bank loan (not so much these days as in the past).
So, 8M to try and get a new club up & running. I'd guess more like 10M all-up.
Given all that, he then mentions at the end that he is constantly looking for a property around the Bern region so he could capture the "west" market from Cleo, Freubad. Video seemed cut short at this stage, so looks like more to come.
I found all this interesting as I've always thought you would have to adopt this "guaranteed earnings" model to get a club going. Ten years ago I could imagine someone (but certainly not me!) trying this, but today I think there would be much less risky options to get a decent ROI on 10M francs.
One other point he makes is that the forums don't drive business, rather it's done by word-of-mouth. Not so sure I agree here. Firstly, how many of us blab to others about our brothel habits? Secondly, I only learned of the wonders of European FKK sauna clubs from reports in a local forum based in a country on the other side of the world. Given the number of views plus positive comments on my reports in that forum describing the unique wonders of Globe, I've sent a lot of business Ingo's way.
ShoesAndSocks
12-01-24, 12:58
I know this is the Zurich thread, but I'm posting this here as the Lugano thread seems dead ...
The recent Ingo video about costs of getting clubs up & running made me think about the two Lugano clubs - Iceberg and Maison Rouge - that Imperium acquired. They are in adjacent buildings.
The website of Maison Rouge seems abandoned, and Google Maps has it as temporarily closed.
The link for Iceberg takes you to a website for J-Club Wellness (same address in Lugano). It talks about a club, a hotel, wellness area, restaurant. Sounds rather like Wellcum in Austria. I think back to that video of Ingo flying over to visit Wellcum. Was that a scouting trip to see how Wellcum was operating near the Italian/Austrian border?
However, there are no photos of club interior, hotel rooms, or any of the wellness facilities. The Wellness page says "Come to us from 2025, Stay tuned". I read elsewhere back in March about Iceberg transforming into the first sauna club in Italian Switzerland. This website looks like that sort of place, yet the lack of photos suggests it doesn't yet exist. Maybe one of the buildings is being converted into the hotel and it's merging into a single sauna club.
Any of you Swiss guys know anything about this? Ever head down that way?
First point Ingo makes is the current market is saturated. I take that to mean there aren't enough customers for the existing clubs, let alone a new/restarted one.There's a recent interview with Ingo here that discusses declining market conditions, amongst other things.
https://linth24.ch/articles/284938-erinnerungen-aus-dem-bordell
I heard that when Globe first opened in 2004, they only had a line-up of eight, but I believe that quickly grew thanks to the favourable market conditions.
One other point he makes is that the forums don't drive business, rather it's done by word-of-mouth. Not so sure I agree here. Firstly, how many of us blab to others about our brothel habits? Secondly, I only learned of the wonders of European FKK sauna clubs from reports in a local forum based in a country on the other side of the world. Given the number of views plus positive comments on my reports in that forum describing the unique wonders of Globe, I've sent a lot of business Ingo's way.His beliefs seem a bit dated given how online the world is since the advent of smart phones.
PaulInZurich
12-01-24, 16:24
First point Ingo makes is the current market is saturated. I take that to mean there aren't enough customers for the existing clubs, let alone a new/restarted one...My guess was that a new club in the ZRH area would need to be able to absorb losses for 6 months before it gets established. Obviously, Ingo knows the market much better, one year sounds realistic. On the other hand he doesn't want new competition in ZRH.
There's a recent interview with Ingo here that discusses declining market conditions, amongst other things.
https://linth24.ch/articles/284938-erinnerungen-aus-dem-bordell.Someone recently mentioned that in golden era prices were higher than today.
Per Ingo:
"based on the standard service price of 300 francs per half hour in the industry at the time (1996)".
"40 years late (2024) are, the situation is different: prices are at rock bottom, service, as it is called in the scene, costs half of what it once did, despite average wages being almost twice as high.
"As far as the "quality of the women" is concerned, especially their appearance, as Heidbrink puts it, the peak has been passed. "In order to maintain the standard and for women to continue to be willing to do this difficult job, prices must rise again. ".
Someone recently mentioned that in golden era prices were higher than today.
Per Ingo:
"based on the standard service price of 300 francs per half hour in the industry at the time (1996)".
"40 years late (2024) are, the situation is different: prices are at rock bottom, service, as it is called in the scene, costs half of what it once did, despite average wages being almost twice as high.
"As far as the "quality of the women" is concerned, especially their appearance, as Heidbrink puts it, the peak has been passed. "In order to maintain the standard and for women to continue to be willing to do this difficult job, prices must rise again. ".Increasing from 140 to 150/30 in 2022 , for lower quality, at least for looks.
ShoesAndSocks
12-02-24, 02:56
"As far as the "quality of the women" is concerned, especially their appearance, as Heidbrink puts it, the peak has been passed. "In order to maintain the standard and for women to continue to be willing to do this difficult job, prices must rise again."Ingo always mentions higher prices, but never suggests how they could be implemented and accepted by the current market.
Personally, any increase on Globe's 150 for 30 would see me abandon the Swiss scene. One extra factor for us overseas visitors is exchange rates. I reviewed my Globe attendance recently and I was shocked to calculate that due to exchange rate fluctuations I now pay 50% more in terms of my home currency than I did ten years ago.
Ingo always mentions higher prices, but never suggests how they could be implemented and accepted by the current market.
Personally, any increase on Globe's 150 for 30 would see me abandon the Swiss scene. One extra factor for us overseas visitors is exchange rates. I reviewed my Globe attendance recently and I was shocked to calculate that due to exchange rate fluctuations I now pay 50% more in terms of my home currency than I did ten years ago.And in many other clubs it is 90-110 CHF per half hour, including same service.
ShoesAndSocks
12-02-24, 15:21
Given all that, he then mentions at the end that he is constantly looking for a property around the Bern region so he could capture the "west" market from Cleo, Freubad. Video seemed cut short at this stage, so looks like more to come.Second part of this video is up.
At the start, Ingo completes the story about establishing a club near Bern. Says he is fielding offers but hasn't yet found the ideal location. Wants a large outdoor area to rival Freubad. Sounds committed to making this happen.
Rest of the video is rambling about politics.
Silvester2656
01-28-25, 18:43
Can anyone please let me know about seeking sugarbaby price range? I mean what's considered as an acceptable pay per meet allowance. I tried seeking in Nordic region and 400 euro per short meeting (dinner date+sex) was considered good enough for most of the girls. Zurich being more expensive in terms of cost of living, I would think seeking girls will look for more money but not sure what should be my initial offer that they don't dismiss it right away.Expect 600+ for girls, and 400+ for MILFs.
Jimmy K II
02-04-25, 18:07
Hi fellow mongers.
I'll visit Zurich shorty just for one night and would like to enjoy some nice company of a WG before heading to my business meeting in the evening.
Is there in Zurich anything like a brothel or a mansion offering WG's with good and affordable service?
My time schedule is too tight for visiting Globe and additionally what I've read doesn't attract me to Globe any more.
Have been there almost 10 years ago and liked it a lot, but it seems that those times are over.
Any recommandations for a MILF-type WG in Zurich would be much appreciated (Eurogirlsescort or MR?
Cheers guys!
Hi fellow mongers.
I'll visit Zurich shorty just for one night and would like to enjoy some nice company of a WG before heading to my business meeting in the evening.
Is there in Zurich anything like a brothel or a mansion offering WG's with good and affordable service?
My time schedule is too tight for visiting Globe and additionally what I've read doesn't attract me to Globe any more.
Have been there almost 10 years ago and liked it a lot, but it seems that those times are over.
Any recommandations for a MILF-type WG in Zurich would be much appreciated (Eurogirlsescort or MR?
Cheers guys!Privates Seline or Beatrice.
Jimmy K II
02-05-25, 08:39
Privates Seline or Beatrice.Thanks Sirioja!
How can I contact them?
Google didn't delivery any result in "our" direction and the search here only delivered Aphrodite.
Thanks for your kind assistance!
HkPunter99
02-05-25, 12:24
Thanks Sirioja!
How can I contact them?
Google didn't delivery any result in "our" direction and the search here only delivered Aphrodite.
Thanks for your kind assistance!There are actually a few:
There is.
Pascha - http://www.club-pascha.ch/en/index.php.
Smaller selection than some other places, but also a little less expensive.
Aphrodesia.
https://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/?language=en
The most expensive option, but also the most girls. I liked this place, as the drinks we're free.
Beatrice-Privat.
https://www.beatrice-privat.ch/?language=en
This place is booking with a single girl, and going straight to her room. This is not a contact bar, where you get to meet all the girls before choosing one. This is owned or part of the same group as Aphrodesia above, so the girls rotate between the two. Again, a little more expensive, but there is some quality here.
If you don't mind a short Uber / Cab ride, you can also go to Amesia.
https://www.amesia.ch/alle-girls.html?language=en
Depending on what you're looking for, you can also check sites like And6. And go the independent route.
Hope that helps!
Thanks Sirioja!
How can I contact them?
Google didn't delivery any result in "our" direction and the search here only delivered Aphrodite.
Thanks for your kind assistance!Beatrice-privat. Ch inside Zurich, look 19 yo Britany video and clubseline. Ch in Winterthur around Zurich. Usually in privates, You can see girls and choose, when photos are most often photoshop now on internet. Also free entry and drinks kontakt bar Aphrodisia inside Zurich, but expensive for girls.
Jimmy K II
02-06-25, 10:03
Thanks mates!
I'll make a small research and hope to find some spare time to enjoy with a lady / girl!
Unfortuneately Betarice-privat.ch is closed on saturday/sunday and i arrive on saturday and leave on sunday...
This would have been exactly what i'm looking for.
Take care.
Cheers.
PaulInZurich
02-07-25, 12:33
i arrive on saturday and leave on sunday...Studio-boombastic. Ch or studio-lustkick. Ch I think are open Saturday and Sunday, but I don't know what quality girls you find there.
Since its not an FKK club, does that mean the girls in Aphrodesia are clothed?
Since its not an FKK club, does that mean the girls in Aphrodesia are clothed?Yes, not full naked. Some days are full naked at Globe. Most often, girls are more elegant with lingerie or short sexy dress than full naked, just have to be able to see through.
PaulInZurich
02-18-25, 15:34
Anabel ex Globe returned to Amesia.
Isn't Alma Globe now at Amesia? Seem quite good casting there, with one who worked at Aphrodisia.
Vicky enjoyed at Globe on 2022, is at Aphrodisia, but I won't pay the rate, when I have higher levels for so much less expensive.
PaulInZurich
03-19-25, 19:10
It has been reported elsewhere that canton Zurich is making some changes. Girls working in apartments would not be given the 90 days visa anymore, they would need to have a company registered and they would need to pay social deductions.
Vicky enjoyed at Globe on 2022, is at Aphrodisia, but I won't pay the rate, when I have higher levels for so much less expensive.A small petite party girl at Aphro, I do recommend her though.
It has been reported elsewhere that canton Zurich is making some changes. Girls working in apartments would not be given the 90 days visa anymore, they would need to have a company registered and they would need to pay social deductions.Hi Paul,
I know you are an expert of Swiss paid sex scene. I am more into the studios in Switzerland and plan to visit some of them this year. I have a question for you if you don't mind. Are the ages of girls listed on their websites are the real ages of girls? For example, all the girls on Teeny29 website (www.teeny29.ch) are under 23, are they all really under 23? Thanks a lot for your advice.
Jimmy K II
03-26-25, 12:41
Thanks mates!
I'll make a small research and hope to find some spare time to enjoy with a lady / girl!
Unfortuneately Betarice-privat.ch is closed on saturday/sunday and i arrive on saturday and leave on sunday...
This would have been exactly what i'm looking for.
Take care.
Cheers.Many thanks for all your helpful tips.
I've been at www.lustpoint.ch in Winterthur and have enjoyed a very nice hour with Anita from Ukraine.
She's a real woman with great body and slightly enhanced rack.
DFK was more thank passionate and DATY led to a squirt from her.
The hour was 300€ which was ok for swiss price level.
For me a perfect match and when I'm around again I'll visit this place again!
Take care guys and cheers!
PaulInZurich
03-27-25, 05:03
Hi Paul,
I know you are an expert of Swiss paid sex scene. I am more into the studios in Switzerland and plan to visit some of them this year. I have a question for you if you don't mind. Are the ages of girls listed on their websites are the real ages of girls? For example, all the girls on Teeny29 website (www.teeny29.ch) are under 23, are they all really under 23? Thanks a lot for your advice.I don't know much about studios, I was only a few times in Beatrice Privat in Zurich. Even so, I think studios or individual ads or FKK clubs, they all can cheat, some more, some less. I would expect that most websites often don't show the real ages of girls.
About Teeny29, there is a thread on pay6 tipp, people there say that while the club is specialized in younger WGs, they do cheat with the ages of the girls and they don't expect great service there. I saw some girl with anal for CHF 50 on the extras list, I seriously doubt this in Switzerland.
Since no one answered I tried it. Give a 4/5 review. Good concept, nice girls (not Globe standard for looks but very service minded). Were 6-7 guys and from time to time a little orgy atmosphere. Recommend.
Swede.Credit where credit is due. This good man posted this little gem and it seems to have gone totally unnoticed. Well, not by me! One bookmark and 18 months later I was there. And I was pleasantly surprised.
For fans of group sex, this place gives old Lady Marmalade Party (London) and EMW (Berlin) vibes.
I was there on a busy night, maybe 15 men at its peak and 6 girls mostly all in action at the same time. Allot of spit roasting action, hardly any one on ones. The 'house girls' were not to my taste. Maybe with beer goggles I could have made do. For the price it's certainly value for money.
However the highlight for me was the special guest Swiss couple in attendance. Very hot, natural and welcoming to all. The girl was super cute and really seemed to enjoy taking multiple men all day long guided by her husband who is watching throughout.
In summary, certainly worth a visit any day. But keep an eye out on their website for when they have special guests becouse that could be want makes an average experience into a a really memorable one.
Thanks Swede, for posting.
ShoesAndSocks
03-27-25, 08:20
Credit where credit is due. This good man posted this little gem and it seems to have gone totally unnoticed. Well, not by me! ...I've hesitated to try this Zurich option as I've never quite understood from the website how it works in reality.
Girls are listed on the TP as Party Girls / Individual Service. Parties happen Wed / Fri / Sat.
I imagine the parties and associated sex happen in the club area where there appears to be a large circular bed?
Are all girls available only for party guests, or can some be taken away for Individual Service during the party days? Worry is all the hot ones go to rooms with regs, and the less desirable ones are left for party guests.
I've hesitated to try this Zurich option as I've never quite understood from the website how it works in reality.
Girls are listed on the TP as Party Girls / Individual Service. Parties happen Wed / Fri / Sat.
I imagine the parties and associated sex happen in the club area where there appears to be a large circular bed?
Are all girls available only for party guests, or can some be taken away for Individual Service during the party days? Worry is all the hot ones go to rooms with regs, and the less desirable ones are left for party guests.I assume yes it's possible. There are rooms onsite. But the thought didn't even cross my mind nor did I notice it happening.
I did see some girls come and go from the main room so maybe they did do a little private and return. Or they could have just been out for a bathroom or smoke break.
I generally got the sense that guests have more than enough access to the ladies in the main room so going private adds very little incremental value and it is not their motivation for being there.
ShoesAndSocks
03-27-25, 10:15
I assume yes it's possible ...Thanks for clarifying. I guess at 200 CHF for 2 hours it's probably a case of give it a try and see how it works out.
As you mentioned, I think these type of events (like the McFick sessions at Palace) depend very much on who turns up & how well everyone gels.
Could be fantastic, dismal, or anything in-between.
ShoesAndSocks
03-27-25, 12:57
Thanks for clarifying. I guess at 200 CHF for 2 hours it's probably a case of give it a try and see how it works out.Looks like you need to look at Home page with Language set to DE to see up-to-date information regarding parties.
I don't know much about studios, I was only a few times in Beatrice Privat in Zurich. Even so, I think studios or individual ads or FKK clubs, they all can cheat, some more, some less. I would expect that most websites often don't show the real ages of girls.
About Teeny29, there is a thread on pay6 tipp, people there say that while the club is specialized in younger WGs, they do cheat with the ages of the girls and they don't expect great service there. I saw some girl with anal for CHF 50 on the extras list, I seriously doubt this in Switzerland.Thank you very much for your advice and insight.
I thought that the brothels in Switzerland should be better than the ones in Germany in this regard. I will check the threads on pay6 tipp and thank you again.
Thank you very much for your advice and insight.
I thought that the brothels in Switzerland should be better than the ones in Germany in this regard. I will check the threads on pay6 tipp and thank you again.On Globe profiles, photoshop contest and not reliable for age and bare feet height.
PaulInZurich
03-28-25, 15:36
A small petite party girl at Aphro, I do recommend her though.Party girl normally means snow aficionado even in the summer indoors.
At Fake It. What is EMW in Berlin?
At SocksAndShoes. What are McFick sessions at Palace?
Thanks.
ShoesAndSocks
03-31-25, 00:49
At SocksAndShoes. What are McFick sessions at Palace?An attempt a while ago at Club Palace at group sex / gangbang sessions.
Proved unpopular, no longer happens.
There was another attempt at running a gangbang at the recent party at Club Swiss. Needed 10 guys to happen but only 4 wanted to participate so it didn't go ahead. Seems to be the fantasy of a small number of guys.
At Fake It. What is EMW in Berlin?
At SocksAndShoes. What are McFick sessions at Palace?
Thanks.I assume EWM is Erlebniswohnung in Berlin. It is closed for quite a while already and Mustafa had some legal trouble.
I tried it twice many years ago. First time was quite good but later on not so much.
ShoesAndSocks
03-31-25, 12:30
I think the best way to set up something like a gangbang would be to go to Globe in Zurich with a group of mates and book a private room with a few party girls who get on well.
But, for those of us who visit solo from afar, sadly not an option.
Sebastiane
04-06-25, 08:18
Review: Club Aphrodisia, Zurich First Quarter of 2025.
First Visit Back Since the Pre-COVID Era.
It had been five years since I last stepped into Club Aphrodisia. The club, like much of the world, closed its doors in early 2020. Returning in the first quarter of 2025 felt surreallike opening a time capsule sealed in silk and candlelight. I didn't know what to expect after so long. What I found was a club that hasn't just survivedit's evolved.
Atmosphere.
Aphrodisia still has it. The lighting is low and inviting, the music subtle, the air laced with perfume and promise. The energy is intimate but electric. Some of the pre-pandemic regulars are still around, older but with the same unmistakable Aphrodisia glow. The new additions? Just as intriguing.
The Girls.
Valentina stood out instantly. Tall, blonde, with long, straight hair and a striking face. She wore a shimmering red dress that clung just enough and moved with elegance. She had a strong, poised presencelike someone who's used to being looked at and knows exactly how to handle it. I didn't spend time with her on this visit, as she was taken already by a guy who she was chatting with, but she's at the top of the list for next time.
Lory (22), a pale Romanian in a backless floral dress, gave off a fresh, natural energy. She reminded me of Sunny in both looks and stylefeminine, playful, and low-key seductive. She had that quiet confidence that lingers with you. Definitely one to watch.
Vivienne (29) was the highlight of the evening. Blonde curls in a classic Marilyn Monroe style, dressed in lace, corset, and short shortspure pin-up fantasy. About 170 cm, and carried herself with a mix of warmth and flirtation. She's a fantastic kisser when she wants to beteasing, controlled, with just the right use of tongue. Foreplay was slow and deliberate, the BBBJ was top-class, and her cowgirl technique was smooth and connected. She also treated me to some intense face sitting, and we ventured into a few other things I'll keep private. The full hourCHF 500 felt immersive and personal. Vivienne knows how to take her time and make it count.
Drinks.
Started with a house whisky on the rocks. Later, a Chivas Regal 25-year-old. Finished the night with an Indian tonic water to reset before leaving.
Final Thoughts.
Club Aphrodisia has come back strong. It still offers that rare balance of elegance, eroticism, and escape. Returning after all these years was more than just nostalgicit was a reminder of why this place had a reputation in the first place.
If you've been before, you'll know what to expect. Despite the naysayers things are more or less the same as before including the prices and the free drinks.
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