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Kuranyi
08-15-15, 09:59
Thanks Misterxxx for the realistic prices. I guess you won't get these prices at the airport:

Misterxxx
08-15-15, 11:30
Thanks Misterxxx for the realistic prices. I guess you won't get these prices at the airport:Call the 579 + wait. They call back. English language is no problem (normally) or they say "one moment please" and connect you with another operator.

Tell them that you are at the airport, your destination and that you want the car right now.

After a few minutes they will send you a message with the number, type and colour of the taxi + the price that you have to pay.

If you don't want to spend money for the taxi, use the trolley bus (very cheap).

The bus will bring you to the train station. From the train station you can use the tram, another bus or walk.

You need about 20 minutes to walk from the train station to the opera.

Telephone-cards with ukrainian numbers (life, Kyivstar) are available at the airport.

UrbanCowboy22
08-17-15, 03:55
You definitely won't get quoted these prices to Arcardia from the Odessa airport. There are always people approaching you outside of arrivals. I was there a few weeks ago & they quoted 600 to Arcadia from the taxi stand outside! I asked them if the transportation included a helicopter ride. I negotiated it down to 300 & I was speaking Russian. Of course it's always better to call for a taxi anywhere in Ukraine but I didn't have an unlocked phone to get a Ukrainian sim card. Anyhow, as a foreigner always expect outlandish quotes for taxis unless ordered by phone and make sure to count your change when buying anything from a market or kiosk. Also got stopped by three Ukrainian police men walking through Arcadia one evening. They were looking for my passport but more importantly looking for money. I didn't have either!


Thanks Misterxxx for the realistic prices. I guess you won't get these prices at the airport:.

Volpone
08-17-15, 18:27
Ten days in Odessa ended with mixed feelings.

I tried my luck mostly with contacts from (semi-) dating or travel websites. I had many telephone numbers, but it quickly became clear, how the system works: first the taxi from the villages nearby (Illichevsk, Zatoka, Belhorod-Dnistrowsky) where most of them "are from" will cost between 600 and 2000 UAH, at least that is what the girls ask for, the bus fare is about 50 UAH, but bus is considered for poor people. Secondly many girls will call you one or two hours before the meeting and "admit" that they don't speak any English, so a translator girl will be in their company, she will ask for 20 or 25 dollars per hour. Thirdly the girls will try to determine the place of meeting, this is the clearest of indications they are just going for some money: if they name Caesar's, Salieri or Grand Prix, it is better to forget about them.

Having said all that, there were also a few great encounters, but in general Odessa this summer felt like a boomtown: the Deadwood of the Black Sea. Lots of opportunities, but also to get rigged.Here some more infos for those who travel to Odessa for dating. It could be right for some other cities in Ukraine:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/apr/06/ukraine-wife-internet-romance-industry-online-scam

Kuranyi
08-18-15, 10:15
You definitely won't get quoted these prices to Arcardia from the Odessa airport. There are always people approaching you outside of arrivals. I was there a few weeks ago & they quoted 600 to Arcadia from the taxi stand outside! I asked them if the transportation included a helicopter ride. I negotiated it down to 300 & I was speaking Russian. Of course it's always better to call for a taxi anywhere in Ukraine but I didn't have an unlocked phone to get a Ukrainian sim card. Anyhow, as a foreigner always expect outlandish quotes for taxis unless ordered by phone and make sure to count your change when buying anything from a market or kiosk. Also got stopped by three Ukrainian police men walking through Arcadia one evening. They were looking for my passport but more importantly looking for money. I didn't have either!

.And how did you handle the situation with the police? Did you get away without paying anything?

Iceberg27
08-18-15, 12:56
And how did you handle the situation with the police? Did you get away without paying anything?It is just 70 grivna.

Use Taxi Bond application. You will save thousands of grivans of the taxi cost during a week holiday.

Regards.

Azartnyi
08-18-15, 17:22
I haven't posted on this forum in a very long time. But I lived in Odessa for almost a decade and visited earlier this summer. There are thousands of beautiful women there, and even more so this year because Ukrainians are not traveling abroad on holiday like they used to. They are however, going to Odessa.

If you postulate that Odessa is over hyped, that's fine. It's likely your expectations were not realistic, or the girls were not into you. It certainly isn't expensive especially with a weak UAH.

One thing is certain: Russia and Ukraine are not like the bad old days when any foreigner was considered a GOD (even you. I am God). Now you have to work a bit differently, especially if you travel to cities like Odessa. Go to Kharkiv. Or Nikolaev, if you want an easier time with the girls. However, you'll need Russian language skills. The best girls do not speak English.


Hi,

First post on ISG and I am in Odessa. A supposed wonderland of sexy women. Sadly Odessa seems way overrated. Some sexy girls 18-20. Yet how many of them are actually fun? Ummmm. Haven't met any fun single women in the first week and a half.

Don't believe any hype about women in Odessa. Seriously. Seems most blogs on the Internet talking about so many Ukrainian women being super pretty were written by fools or Ukrainian bride scam artists.

Tried Mamba. Ru tonight. How the f to find any professional women under 22? Went to Arkadia many nights. Stayed until morning once.

Honestly though. That girl still wasn't amazing. A Ukrainian guy recently told Me that about 30 percent of Ukrainian blondes are natural blondes.

Already over the over hyped chicks here. First of all, because of all the inexperienced fools on the Internet over hyping the not-that-pretty Ukrainian women, they generally seem to believe they are pretty. Including the chicks with too many pounds of makeup and droopy tits...

Mskofmsk
12-07-15, 10:50
Hi guys,

You think its good time to be in Odessa in the winter?

December-January?

Waiting for your kind advice.

DudeNextDoor
12-07-15, 23:36
It is cold and rainy now. I was there a week ago!

You should rent a nice cozy flat (discounted due to winter) and stay warm!

Call any lady you want and invite them to your place to play! They are hungry for work these days.

It rained every day. I stayed in most the time.

I had a girl over every day. Prices were about the same as last summer.


Hi guys,

You think its good time to be in Odessa in the winter?

December-January?

Waiting for your kind advice.

Michi T
12-13-15, 20:39
Hi Guys. Is there a website with advertisement for Odessa chics?

GDreams
12-14-15, 01:28
Hi Guys. Is there a website with advertisement for Odessa chics?http://mister-x.org/prostitutki-odessy/

There are quite a few dating sites. The Russian Language ones are best. Try Love. Ua. If you want more copy the cyrillic and paste words Znakomstva Dyevushka Odessa, to google or similar and you will find some more.

Carlojj
12-14-15, 17:04
http://mister-x.org/prostitutki-odessy/

There are quite a few dating sites. The Russian Language ones are best. Try Love. Ua. If you want more copy the cyrillic and paste words Znakomstva Dyevushka Odessa, to google or similar and you will find some more.Are pictures real my friend?

Is Kiev a better scene?

GDreams
12-15-15, 04:25
Are pictures real my friend?

Is Kiev a better scene?I expect some are and some are not. If not you can always send away.

I enjoy Odessa in summer, its very vibrant but I married a Kiev girl so naturally have spent most of my time there. Both are big enough to find what you look for. I found some good introductions on free sites for myself and friends. I'm not much into clubs and bars but of course Kiev has larger selection.

DudeNextDoor
12-15-15, 13:37
Are pictures real my friend?

Is Kiev a better scene?Of course not! But most girls Show up are better looking then the pictures. If she is a hag, just give her 100 grivnas and send her back. No worries! Then call the next girl immediately!

Dominus22
05-26-16, 16:21
I looking for current information, where is the best place to sleep Hotel or private?

Tips on working or private girls?

Is there an S / M scene in Odessa?

Is there anyone else there at this time, so we can drink a beer?

Am grateful for any advice!

Best regards.

John.

Melmoths
05-30-16, 14:00
So far I tried 2 stripclubs, 3 erotic massage parlors and visited 4 places with escorts.

1) Stripclubs.

I tried Axis and the Office.

- I was not happy with Axis. Entrance is 100 UAH. You are asked for lapdances or lady drinks every 5 minutes. I took 1 lapdance for 400 UAH but the girl kept her knickers and ended the dance before the second song was over. After my refusal to pay for a lady drink the waitress gave me the bill without me requesting it, a way to say that I should leave. The athmosphere there was not very friendly.

- The office: entrance 150 UAH. Lapdance 400 UAH. Promotions: expat night on Friday no entrace fee. On mondays lapdances at 300 UAH instead of 400. No sollicitation there. A rather good athmosphere, smiling staff, the girls seemed happy to work there. Pleasant experience. Only one stage, and maybe 6-7 girls only at the same time.

2) Erotic massage parlors.

VIP massage: the most expensive one. When I called a guy named andrew answered the phone, he told me it was 1200 for a 1 h30 massage with 2 relaxes + 500 more for 1 more girl. Turns out it was 1200 for just 1 hour + 600 for one more girl. The girls were pretty, between 7 and 9. There were 6 girls avaible. The massage is fully nude. I enjoyed but it's very expensive.

Chaoyang massage: a good place, went twice. The menu is 400 for basic massage, 650 for double relax, 1 hour, + 100 for a second girl, 1000 for 1 h30 massage with 2 girls champagne and lesbi show.

The bad point is that massages are not fully nude, just topless. All the photos on their site are real.

So the first time, there were 3 girls including 2 petite 20 years old hotties I would rate 8. So I took the VIP massage with champagne, for 1000 UAH, it was great.

Second time, there were 4 larger women in the late 20's early 30's. I would rate them between 5 and 7. I just took the basic massage with 1 relax and paid 500 UAH.

Drakon massage: 500 for 1 hour with 1 girl, 700 with 2. Fully naked. The problem is, I called 3 times and each time there was only 1 girl. I went once and had a great classic massage and good erotic ending by a thin brunette I would rate 6-7. I will go again when they have more girls, if it happens.

3) escorts.

I tried natasha escorts, but looks like there are only "salons" registered there. And many profiles have "verified photos" which are in fact fake. I visited 2 places and wlaked out because the girls were old or ugly.

http://mister-x.org/ seems to be a much better site. When they display verified photos it's much more reliable, and there are independent escorts.

But from my experience, the level of beauty of the girls is proportional to the price. If you pay 600 UAH for a girl don't expect better than a 5. If you pay 1000 you can expect a 7, and from 1200 even a 8.

I met 2 of these 1200 girls and there were indeed 8's maybe even 9. The problem with escorts is that maybe 20% of them speak english so if you don't speak russian you will be unable to set up a meeting.

Most of the girls are in Arkadia. So my advice is, if you want to get quality just don't be cheap and filter out those under 1000 UAH.

Zidane10
06-02-16, 08:01
Hi guys,

Now that I have determined the city of destination which will be Odessa I have several questions in this regard. I have not been lazy and I've thoroughly browsed Odessa thread and even though that I found answers to some of the questions I'm going to ask, it's always better to double check the facts and learn any possible new feedback from forum members to the questions which already had been answered. So my questions are as follows:

1. As I'm going to make my trip in November (unfortunately it's the only time I can to take vacation), it seems to me that since it's not high season among tourists there must be more offer for less price. I mean given that November is not popular month for tourists and it should somehow affect offer / demand ratio (or am I wrong?

2. Does fluency in Russian will make any difference in establishing contacts with girls in clubs and parties or it's not much of an advantage as long as you put some fancy clothes on. In other words are there girls willing to try one night stand or it's just all about money? Don't get me wrong I'm not cheap, but I'd like at least to try to experience some chemistry with local girls and get them to bed. Is it any feasible?

3. Is Odessa really that overpriced? I heard some rumors like "since Crimea is gone most of local people come to Odessa and as a result prices soared up drastically". Honestly I don't believe it, bit anyway it never harms to confirm with other people.

4. Do you think 1 week is enough to explore, experience and fully enjoy all of the "local sex gems and attractions"?

Many thanks to all of you in advance.

Melmoths
06-02-16, 16:35
From what I've heard it's quite dead. You might consider going to Kiev instead, many more options. It's a very nice city also.

DudeNextDoor
06-02-16, 20:40
1) yes, you are wrong. There will be less girls to pick and prices will not be cheap (escorts). The only thing that will be cheaper is your boarding cost (hotel, apt etc etc).

2) How often do you pick up girls in your hometown? I bet not so often, I do get them very rare. Now you are not in your hometown so it will be harder then that.

3) Overpriced compare to some small town but cheaper then Kiev or Lviv. Go out of tourist bubble in Odessa and it gets cheaper and scarier. Not recommended!

4) When it comes to a vacation in Ukraine or Russia, it is never enough. There are so many beautiful woman to play with and so little time!

Hope these helps. Google translate and smart phone with internet Access is your best friend! Good luck and enjoy your vacation.


Hi guys,

Now that I have determined the city of destination which will be Odessa I have several questions in this regard. I have not been lazy and I've thoroughly browsed Odessa thread and even though that I found answers to some of the questions I'm going to ask, it's always better to double check the facts and learn any possible new feedback from forum members to the questions which already had been answered. So my questions are as follows:

1. As I'm going to make my trip in November (unfortunately it's the only time I can to take vacation), it seems to me that since it's not high season among tourists there must be more offer for less price. I mean given that November is not popular month for tourists and it should somehow affect offer / demand ratio (or am I wrong?

2. Does fluency in Russian will make any difference in establishing contacts with girls in clubs and parties or it's not much of an advantage as long as you put some fancy clothes on. In other words are there girls willing to try one night stand or it's just all about money? Don't get me wrong I'm not cheap, but I'd like at least to try to experience some chemistry with local girls and get them to bed. Is it any feasible?

3. Is Odessa really that overpriced? I heard some rumors like "since Crimea is gone most of local people come to Odessa and as a result prices soared up drastically". Honestly I don't believe it, bit anyway it never harms to confirm with other people.

4. Do you think 1 week is enough to explore, experience and fully enjoy all of the "local sex gems and attractions"?

Many thanks to all of you in advance.

Sorbonne
06-02-16, 21:13
So far I tried 2 stripclubs, 3 erotic massage parlors and visited 4 places with escorts.

1) Stripclubs.

I tried Axis and the Office.

- I was not happy with Axis. Entrance is 100 UAH. You are asked for lapdances or lady drinks every 5 minutes. I took 1 lapdance for 400 UAH but the girl kept her knickers and ended the dance before the second song was over. After my refusal to pay for a lady drink the waitress gave me the bill without me requesting it, a way to say that I should leave. The athmosphere there was not very friendly.

- The office: entrance 150 UAH. Lapdance 400 UAH. Promotions: expat night on Friday no entrace fee. On mondays lapdances at 300 UAH instead of 400. No sollicitation there. A rather good athmosphere, smiling staff, the girls seemed happy to work there. Pleasant experience. Only one stage, and maybe 6-7 girls only at the same time.

2) Erotic massage parlors.

VIP massage: the most expensive one. When I called a guy named andrew answered the phone, he told me it was 1200 for a 1 h30 massage with 2 relaxes + 500 more for 1 more girl. Turns out it was 1200 for just 1 hour + 600 for one more girl. The girls were pretty, between 7 and 9. There were 6 girls avaible. The massage is fully nude. I enjoyed but it's very expensive.

Chaoyang massage: a good place, went twice. The menu is 400 for basic massage, 650 for double relax, 1 hour, + 100 for a second girl, 1000 for 1 h30 massage with 2 girls champagne and lesbi show.

The bad point is that massages are not fully nude, just topless. All the photos on their site are real.

So the first time, there were 3 girls including 2 petite 20 years old hotties I would rate 8. So I took the VIP massage with champagne, for 1000 UAH, it was great.

Second time, there were 4 larger women in the late 20's early 30's. I would rate them between 5 and 7. I just took the basic massage with 1 relax and paid 500 UAH.

Drakon massage: 500 for 1 hour with 1 girl, 700 with 2. Fully naked. The problem is, I called 3 times and each time there was only 1 girl. I went once and had a great classic massage and good erotic ending by a thin brunette I would rate 6-7. I will go again when they have more girls, if it happens.

3) escorts.

I tried natasha escorts, but looks like there are only "salons" registered there. And many profiles have "verified photos" which are in fact fake. I visited 2 places and wlaked out because the girls were old or ugly.

http://mister-x.org/ seems to be a much better site. When they display verified photos it's much more reliable, and there are independent escorts.

But from my experience, the level of beauty of the girls is proportional to the price. If you pay 600 UAH for a girl don't expect better than a 5. If you pay 1000 you can expect a 7, and from 1200 even a 8.

I met 2 of these 1200 girls and there were indeed 8's maybe even 9. The problem with escorts is that maybe 20% of them speak english so if you don't speak russian you will be unable to set up a meeting.

Most of the girls are in Arkadia. So my advice is, if you want to get quality just don't be cheap and filter out those under 1000 UAH.Would you kindly let me know the web address of Chaoyang massage? I can't find it.

DudeNextDoor
06-02-16, 21:42
Would you kindly let me know the web address of Chaoyang massage? I can't find it.Google it. Massage salon "Chao Yang".

DudeNextDoor
06-17-16, 00:04
Google it. Massage salon "Chao Yang".Actually by googling this you get a yellow pages look alike page where they have phone numbers and email address. When you call they demand you to hang up and wait for their call. They call from a different number and give you the address.

I also emailed them and they sent me a link to their website. It is not accurate. The girls changed and prices rised. No need to search for the site. Just call them and ask address and prices. Good luck.

DudeNextDoor
06-18-16, 18:43
Stripclubs:

Many around but I did not bother going to any.

Massage Parlors:

Vip is a good choice if you do not know any better. For 1200 grivnas I prefer to fuck a young hot escort. Not just to be jerked off.

I visited Chao yang twice and Dragon Spa once.

1 hour massage and 2 releases 650 grivnas at Chao yang with Susha (20 years old petite girl) 1 HR massage and 2 releases with Dasha (25+ petite girl who is very sensual) at Dragon for 600. Last day 2 girls 2 releases 1 HR massage at Chao Yang for 750.

Escorts:

Calling an agency is always a hit or miss! Even most mamba profiles are linked to the agencies. They act like they are independent but actually a girl from agency. They say yes, that was me on there chatting which is a lie but that's okay if the girl is as hot as the pictures. %50 are fake and bad service. But the other half is always good and sometimes they are better looking then the pictures.

I met Ilona 20 years old spinner from Kiev via Mamba, turns out to be here via agency. 1000 grivnas. She was distance at start but ended the night with a creampie in her pussy. She stayed another hour for free but mostly chatting and eating my chocolate and drinking my bailies whiskey.

I met Liza 24 years old spinner through another mamba girl. She is skinny, cheerful, speaks well. She was 1000 plus taxi as usual. But she charged me 300 for a creampie. Guys, there is a price tag for everything, just ask!

I called Lisa the 19 years old from mamba. The mamasan acted like it is her and sent me her via an unmarked black Mercedes with tinted Windows. I went to meet her but she did not come out of the car. Instead the rough looking driver comes out of the car and demands Money for his services. I told him I needed to see the girl first but he insist that I give him 200 so i get to see the girl. I called the manager and told her to cancell the date. Manager told the girl to come out of the car but she still did not come out of the car. I am not good at gambling. I bet my Money on the things I can see or believe in. I called in over 60 girls from agencies via taxi in the last 2 years in Odessa, Kiev, Lviv and Kharkiv but I never seen anything like this. Things are getting nasty in the mongering World!

Streetwalkers:

Deribaskaya Street between the stakehouse and the mcdonalds. Some are older, some are very very young. But there are plenty to chose from!

Bolshaya Arvautskaya Streen between the highrise building by the park and the massage parlors. After 9 pm you will fing 10 or more Street walkers. Mostly 30+ women in high heels and mini skirts, few very very young looking girls. Their handler (pimps, boyfriends or whatever you call them) are in close distance.

I advice you drive there, not walk. Also be carefull friving. In that 500 meters strech of hookers I see cops pull over many cars!

SickhHeart
06-20-16, 22:02
Hi,

I stay in Bazarna street need to know some safest strip clubs and girls for sex at my hotel.

I do not Russian language.

For person like me how to deal with Ukrainian situation.

This post was mainly for help.

Harry Hirsch
06-22-16, 07:12
Tomorrow comes nice girl from Kiev for some days to Odessa.

She is 21 slim and like all sex and CIM, sex with condom.

I like stay some times with her, she is good and friendly.

If anybody want meet with her, I will contact her.

Don't go to strip club, they want only your money.

SickhHeart
06-22-16, 21:42
I need her. How to contact. Let me the know price.


Tomorrow comes nice girl from Kiev for some days to Odessa.

She is 21 slim and like all sex and CIM, sex with condom.

I like stay some times with her, she is good and friendly.

If anybody want meet with her, I will contact her.

Don't go to strip club, they want only your money.

Melmoths
07-03-16, 06:57
http://en.reporter-ua.ru/in-odessa-two-klofelinschica-robbed-and-killed-an-italian.html

Happened yesterday. In short an 64 yo italian guy met 2 hookers on arcadia beach, took them to his hotel room. There, they put some drug in his glass to knock him uncouncious, they robbed him and left, but he died.

Mskofmsk
07-03-16, 15:23
Hi guys,

Can you please advice green (girl friendly) hotels in Odessa?

Looking for 4 or 5 stars.

Thanks in advance.

ReDroo
07-03-16, 17:56
Hi all,

I will be staying in Odessa from August 1-21.

Renting an apartment out in Arkardia from my old girlfriend.

Just wondering if any other members will be in town at the same time?

I want to ask what are the best website addresses these days to find local P4P ladies these days?

The ways I used to look at all seem inactive these days.

If anyone has a local contact they recommend, please PM me.

Cheers,

R

DudeNextDoor
07-03-16, 22:28
All hotels are OK unless you walk in there with trouble maker street hookers that're known to the receptionist!


Hi guys,

Can you please advice green (girl friendly) hotels in Odessa?

Looking for 4 or 5 stars.

Thanks in advance.

Schauer
07-06-16, 16:34
Hi all,

I will be staying in Odessa from August 1-21.

Renting an apartment out in Arkardia from my old girlfriend.

Just wondering if any other members will be in town at the same time?

I want to ask what are the best website addresses these days to find local P4P ladies these days?

The ways I used to look at all seem inactive these days.

If anyone has a local contact they recommend, please PM me.

Cheers,

RI would try Relaxportal, and Tinder.

SportMongr
07-16-16, 01:37
I'm in Odessa too. Let's go hit some night clubs together. Or even check out some brothels, but should go together because there is safety in numbers. My Viber phone number, pm me and I'll give you my Viber contact.I 'm in town with some dudes that play the old man dating game. I'm game to uncover rocks and find gems. My 1st time here and not feeling comfortable doing the mission solo. PM or message the board to hook up. By the way my reports are coming. It's my 2nd night here in odessa. Jury is still out but my insticts tell me this place is a trap. Lot of eye candy but very difficult to join the party. Just my 2 night opinion. Things could change.

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07-16-16, 17:40
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ReDroo
07-26-16, 12:05
OK. I've come a few days earlier than I planned, and jet lagged as hell. I'll be around for about 3-4 weeks.

Just spent the morning on a sun lounge by the pool at Ibiza. 300 gr this year mid week! Be interesting to see what it climbs to by the weekend.

Not a great deal of eye candy up before lunch, and I'm off home for a catch up nap and hopefully reset my internal clock.

Iceberg27
07-28-16, 22:29
Hi everyone,

I will be in city until 8th of August.

If you want to grab a beer just send me a msg.

I am experienced in the city.

Regards.

DudeNextDoor
08-02-16, 14:03
I am in Odessa till the 5th.


Hi everyone,

I will be in city until 8th of August.

If you want to grab a beer just send me a msg.

I am experienced in the city.

Regards.

Tuggar
08-02-16, 20:13
Hi guys,

I'll be in Odessa next week! Let's meet up and have a beer together.

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Iceberg7811
08-14-16, 17:44
Hey guys,

Will be in Odessa during these dates. 30's Australian. Let me know if you want to grab a beer.

Cheers.

SexAdvisor
08-17-16, 17:59
Long time lurker first time poster. Thought I would share some some stuff I found.

1. Do not stay in Arcadia. All of the girls come from the center so you have to pay for their taxi 200-250 ($10 US) and it takes 30 minutes extra. There are no street walkers in Arcadia and going to the clubs like Ibiza are a waste of money.

2. Get a local sim card. They are very cheap, less than $5 US and you MUST have it to call girls.

3. Don't bother with trying to find brothels or street walkers. You can call escorts delivered to your room and they are great. I used http://odessa.relaxportal.biz/eng/ with success but I'm sure there are others.

How to order:

A. Choose a girl and call the number. From my experience there is no difference in quality between girls that charge 600 Ukraine Hryvnia (UAH) and 1,000 so you might as well choose the cheaper.

B. If your girl is unavailable, ask the mamasan if they have another girl for you. Ask for their age and weight. My friend got sent an old lady because he didn't ask.

C. The girl can come straight to your room. One girl's driver made me meet them in the parking lot, it was fine, nothing bad happened but it was annoying.

D. You have to pay the girl first so she can call her driver and let them know she is okay. After that you get a full hour and get to cum twice.

The first girl I had Nastasia was amazing. Total GFE. Hard worker, enjoyed her job, was on top half the time.

The second girl Kristina was terrible. She hated her job and wanted to spend the entire time smoking out my window and talking with her friends on her phone. She only laid there. I told her that she should get a different job if she hates doing this as much as she does.

I've just called a 3rd girl as I'm still horny and want to see if I just got lucky with the first or not.

Good news is both girls were as pictured on relax portal which was surprising they are using real pictures. Ukraine has lived up to its name! Enjoy Odessa.

P.S. Do not solicit normal girls on Tinder for paid sex, it is offensive and will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off. Most girls in Ukraine are actually very nice, normal girls.

Harry Hirsch
08-18-16, 14:32
SexAdvisor,

Advertisement?

I think yes, to much if, when and strange instructions.

Sorbonne
08-23-16, 01:14
Long time lurker first time poster. Thought I would share some some stuff I found.

1. Do not stay in Arcadia. All of the girls come from the center so you have to pay for their taxi 200-250 ($10 US) and it takes 30 minutes extra. There are no street walkers in Arcadia and going to the clubs like Ibiza are a waste of money.

2. Get a local sim card. They are very cheap, less than $5 US and you MUST have it to call girls.

3. Don't bother with trying to find brothels or street walkers. You can call escorts delivered to your room and they are great. I used http://odessa.relaxportal.biz/eng/ with success but I'm sure there are others.

How to order:

A. Choose a girl and call the number. From my experience there is no difference in quality between girls that charge 600 Ukraine Hryvnia (UAH) and 1,000 so you might as well choose the cheaper.

B. If your girl is unavailable, ask the mamasan if they have another girl for you. Ask for their age and weight. My friend got sent an old lady because he didn't ask.

C. The girl can come straight to your room. One girl's driver made me meet them in the parking lot, it was fine, nothing bad happened but it was annoying.

D. You have to pay the girl first so she can call her driver and let them know she is okay. After that you get a full hour and get to cum twice.

The first girl I had Nastasia was amazing. Total GFE. Hard worker, enjoyed her job, was on top half the time.

The second girl Kristina was terrible. She hated her job and wanted to spend the entire time smoking out my window and talking with her friends on her phone. She only laid there. I told her that she should get a different job if she hates doing this as much as she does.

I've just called a 3rd girl as I'm still horny and want to see if I just got lucky with the first or not.

Good news is both girls were as pictured on relax portal which was surprising they are using real pictures. Ukraine has lived up to its name! Enjoy Odessa.

Thanks for your report. Do let us know how things went with the third girl and later ones.

Misterxxx
08-23-16, 09:44
Long time lurker first time poster. Thought I would share some some stuff I found.

1. Do not stay in Arcadia. .......Bla. Bla. Bla.

Everything wrong if you are looking for the real "Odessa experience". The Odessa experience is the location. And especially Arcadia.

Arcadia is the pick-up location number one. If you don't stay in Arcadia it will be hard for you to bring the girl home. A lot of stress with the traffic and even to find a cheap taxi.

Relaxportal and other sites offer prostitutes. That's right. But the photos are not real. Don't expect that you will get any of the girls that you can see on the site. All photos are stolen form Met-Art or porn-sites. You just call an agency. Blindfold. Not an independent girl. And it doesn't matter what they write or promise you. They always send what they have. And normally the best girls don't work for such a "cheap" agency. You can order a blonde girl and they will send a girl with black hair. You can order a slim girl and they send a fat girl. You can order the 18 year old Beauty and they will send the 38 year old ****. Even the price can be wrong. But okay: If you just want to have "a girl" and don't care who will come, it can be nice for you. Then I just wonder why anybody must go to Odessa if there is no real chance to choose. I can order local girls at home. Also for a cheap rate. And don't have to waste time and money in the Ukraine.

Sorbonne
08-29-16, 13:06
Thanks for your report. Do let us know how things went with the third girl and later ones.Well, I guess this is it.

I wanted to know how he would go about with his ad.

RogerThis
08-29-16, 23:56
(I used to post as Rod The Mod but I lost control of that email address a couple of years ago).

So I read through the last few pages of Odessa reports, and looked through a lot of pages on some of the sites. I noticed one person said anything below 1000 should be ignored, and another said there's no difference between 600 and 1000. I ended up picking one of the salons that quoted 800. They had a few girls that looked OK, and, well, it had been a while so even if sub-1000 girls were not of the highest standard I reckoned I'd get some quick relief, and then decide whether to move upmarket. The salon I picked (I found it on relax portal and then went to its own site, wildorchid) was Milady. There's a lot of crap on the site about the luxurious apartments and the fine drinks they have, so I took a shower and changed my clothes and went to the address, 22 a Voenniy Spusk. (I mention the address because I rang another place with a different number later and they gave the same address.) It looked a bit run-down. I called them again from the street and after about 10 minutes a fat granny came and let me in. It was kind of bare inside. I didn't see much of that luxurious refinement. Three girls came in. An ugly blonde, a small forgettable one, and a dark-haired girl who was probably the best of a bad lot. The blonde kept giggling, though, and the dark girl looked like she thought my presence was a personal insult, so I went with the blonde. Granny took the cash, and blonde took me upstairs to a room with a broken bedstead and a mattress on the floor. There was a girl sleeping on the mattress who got up and left. Damn, she was a lot nicer. Perhaps that's why she was sleeping. So my girl sent me to have a shower. She didn't bother herself. I have more experience in Asia and I'm used to taking a shower with the girl. Anyway, I came back, got on the mattress and she started with the covered BJ and attacking my balls. She was pretty rough. I let her get on with it because, well, it was interesting and it wasn't really painful. One thing annoyed me. She was still wearing her bra and panties. I started groping inside them feeling her arse and tits and she pulled off her panties, took my hand off her arse and pushed it firmly into her pussy. OK, but, well, fishy smell. I expect some awareness of hygiene in a professional. And she didn't take her bra off. I had to ask her to, and she did but she was a little grudging. Her breasts were smaller than they looked in the bra and just starting to get a little tired.

There's nothing to say about the rest of it, she served her purpose, but.

A) The salon was a lowdown cheap flophouse. It was nothing like the elegant apartment promised on the website.

B) the girls were several points lower than the girls on the website.

C) the next day I found three long scratches on my scrotum. I guess she was squeezing my balls so hard I didn't notice at the time. She didn't draw blood but the surface of the skin was broken. This is not something you want to happen in these circumstances, when there are body fluids around.

D) she was neither shaven nor unshaven. I guess she last shaved around the same time she last washed herself.

As I was leaving I asked her name. I had to ask twice. Lesya. There is a Lesya on some of the websites with her face obscured by flowers. It looks a bit like her but if it is the pictures must be at least a couple of years old. She's not that nice any more. I'm not 100% sure it's her though, but if it is, she's not just obscuring her face for anonymity.

After that I thought I'd better leave it until the scratches disappeared. After a couple of days I called a girl asking 1000. She looked really hot. They said she wasn't there but they had three girls, why didn't I come and see? I asked how old. One was 19. So I went over and was taken up to a much higher class apartment, nicely furnished, there was even a WiFi router flashing away by the door. In came three girls, a slim blonde, but I'd just had a slim blonde experience, one in the middle, they always seem to put the ugliest in the middle, and a dark girl who might have been very nice but she was wearing a baggy dress and I couldn't see what was on offer. None of them was anywhere near the quality of the girl on the website. I said sorry, I was looking for the girl in the picture, and left. It was a little embarrassing, I'm not sure how to get out of that situation politely. I wish I'd gone there first instead of the 800 uah place. Is it fair to conclude that the poster who said don't consider them below 1000 was right, or is it just chance?

For my much worse Ukraine experience part 2 see the Kiev thread.

Michi T
08-30-16, 19:32
Long time lurker first time poster. Thought I would share some some stuff I found.

1. Do not stay in Arcadia. All of the girls come from the center so you have to pay for their taxi 200-250 ($10 US) and it takes 30 minutes extra. There are no street walkers in Arcadia and going to the clubs like Ibiza are a waste of money.

.Why is that? Are there better places to meet local girls? I want to meet local girls from a pub / disco. Which is the place to go? On a Friday or Saturday night?

Michi T
08-31-16, 12:19
...You can call escorts delivered to your room and they are great. I used http://odessa.relaxportal.biz/eng/ with success but I'm sure there are others.

...After that you get a full hour and get to cum twice.The girls on that website are just amazing. And prices are very reasonable. 1'000 UAH is around 35 EUR.

Isn't all fake photos on that website? It sounds too good to be true. Any inside experience?

Schauer
08-31-16, 13:11
The girls on that website are just amazing. And prices are very reasonable. 1'000 UAH is around 35 EUR.

Isn't all fake photos on that website? It sounds too good to be true. Any inside experience?My favorite website, when I am in Ukraine. Profiles are just to give you an idea, often times the people on the phone will already tell you that the profile pictures are not correct. "They just show the type." Which is mostly true. There is really no way to tell who will show up, in terms of attraction, commitment, involvement. Range is from detached to nice to strongly arousable. Range is from gross to stunning. Most girls offer OWO for small extra, some also CIM for extra extra (in total around 70 for 1 h). Kissing is possible, yet most of them are strong smokers, in my experience. Relaxportal is sort of a lottery, but with some money you are well in the game.

Michi T
08-31-16, 13:56
All hotels are OK unless you walk in there with trouble maker street hookers that're known to the receptionist!May I book a single room and bring in a girl or is it required to book a double room them?

AhmedB75
08-31-16, 15:38
May I book a single room and bring in a girl or is it required to book a double room them?I always booked a single room (at Duke Hotel, Ayvazovski Hotel and finally at Metro Hotel Apartments last month).

No problems at all with girls.

Michi T
09-01-16, 00:37
I always booked a single room (at Duke Hotel, Ayvazovski Hotel and finally at Metro Hotel Apartments last month).

No problems at all with girls.Which website did you use to book the girls?

AhmedB75
09-02-16, 09:16
Which website did you use to book the girls?I never booked girls in Odessa through websites.

I visit my business partners / friends in Odessa every year and they always arrange for girls.

Michi T
09-04-16, 01:37
I never booked girls in Odessa through websites.

I visit my business partners / friends in Odessa every year and they always arrange for girls.For meeting local girls, would you say the chance is rather in the citiy center (hotel Duke and souroindings) or in Arkadia (hotel Yukus and souruindings)? Please bear in mind that I do not not like overpriczed and loud discos such as Ibiza. I want cheap but find good local girls, no hookers.

Michi T
09-05-16, 00:41
All hotels are OK unless you walk in there with trouble maker street hookers that're known to the receptionist!And what about the old lady on the every floor? Will she not stop you when you bring in a *****?

AhmedB75
09-08-16, 12:38
And what about the old lady on the every floor? Will she not stop you when you bring in a *****?What old lady? Never saw something like this in Odessa.

At least not in hotels I was staying at.

AhmedB75
09-08-16, 12:46
For meeting local girls, would you say the chance is rather in the citiy center (hotel Duke and souroindings) or in Arkadia (hotel Yukus and souruindings)? Please bear in mind that I do not not like overpriczed and loud discos such as Ibiza. I want cheap but find good local girls, no hookers.You can meet local girls everywhere in the city center. Hundreds, if not tausends of sexy girls. But difficult to aproach and to see who is available for fun and who not.

If you don't speak Russian, your change is really small.

Arkadia is a place where you can find WG but be careful. Some of them are real sharks, some of them even dangerous.

I will try to get some phone numbers from my business partners. Nice, normal local girls with jobs, looking for some extra money.

Not hardcore hookers. But don't expect 10/10 models.

If I get something, I will PM you.

Michi T
09-08-16, 16:50
[Woooooaaaahhh! Noral girls on the street in the city center are just awwwwweeeessssoommme! And really easy to approach. The problem is only that I am on my own, that makes it much more difficult. I wish some other guy were here in Odessa at the time being. Poland, Moldova, Hungary is nothing compared to Odessa!

Yes, please PM me if you can get some normal girl to have fun with. I like girls with big boobs.

DudeNextDoor
09-26-16, 00:07
My last trip was in mid August and it was absolutely awesome. Girls walking half naked on the streets. Many of them, all very hot. Day time hookups at the beach clubs by the pool. Night time hookups at the arcadia clubs.

Now only 5 weeks from my August trip, Most young hot tourist crowd is gone! I was in total shock. No more mini skirts, it was chilly weather and rain some days.

I called in girls I know, new girls from mamba, relax and mr-x. Some were hot, some were okay, and some were so bad we had to pay the taxi fare and send them home without them getting off the taxi.

My advice visit Odessa June through August for the best experience.

If you just going Odessa for sex, then anytime of the year is good.

Good luck to you all.

Cheers,

Dude.

Iceberg27
09-26-16, 15:59
My last trip was in mid August and it was absolutely awesome. Girls walking half naked on the streets. Many of them, all very hot. Day time hookups at the beach clubs by the pool. Night time hookups at the arcadia clubs.

Now only 5 weeks from my August trip, Most young hot tourist crowd is gone! I was in total shock. No more mini skirts, it was chilly weather and rain some days.

I called in girls I know, new girls from mamba, relax and mr-x. Some were hot, some were okay, and some were so bad we had to pay the taxi fare and send them home without them getting off the taxi.

My advice visit Odessa June through August for the best experience.

If you just going Odessa for sex, then anytime of the year is good.

Good luck to you all.

Cheers,

Dude.Just take the train for 7 hours and you will be fine in Kiev. No need to cry.

Misterxxx
09-26-16, 19:20
Just take the train for 7 hours and you will be fine in Kiev. No need to cry.Just take Bravoairways. Flight. 1 hour to Kiev. Very cheap (500 UAH / 20 $) even in the last moment.

www.bravoairways.kiev.ua

Reiner Otto
09-28-16, 14:45
Just take Bravoairways. Flight. 1 hour to Kiev. Very cheap (500 UAH / 20 $) even in the last moment.
www.bravoairways.kiev.uaAnd how to book? Their website looks a bit lonesome.

Misterxxx
09-28-16, 16:05
And how to book? Their website looks a bit lonesome.You can use a travel agent (in the Ukraine) or the website. The website works very well and they have an English version, too. No problem to book online and pay by credit card.

Marksv4
09-29-16, 18:42
Flying out of Canada just wanted to know if anyone else is planning a trip to Odessa / Kiev. First timer here could really use a guide and new friend, thanks.

DarkRaijin2
10-13-16, 01:04
Wanted to intro myself to EE hunter crowd. Planning something for next year so I will be doing extensive research about the area. I'm USA screen name is same w / o the 2. So I'm not new to the mongering game. Like all mongers / tourists that travel overseas Would like to meet a young hot non hooker blonde. LOL but we all know world is small enough now that does not happen. That said its mostly a pleasure trip.

I would like to meet non prof girls but won't complain if pros is all that come. Life is rarely fair and I made my peace with that.

Couple of pointers I have gotten thus far are travel during summer days.

1) June. Aug.

2) Is it a go or no go on Arcadia? 30 min drive from rest of city etc etc. (I clock F-ing 200 miles over weekend to meet dames oh how I like them so for a nice piece of poon count this DOG to crawl thru snow or desert).

Need advice on night life. I think with enough booze sweet talking, dead press all dames become friends not just US price tag on them.

Volpone
10-13-16, 08:51
Wanted to intro myself to EE hunter crowd. Planning something for next year so I will be doing extensive research about the area. I'm USA screen name is same w / o the 2. So I'm not new to the mongering game. Like all mongers / tourists that travel overseas Would like to meet a young hot non hooker blonde. LOL but we all know world is small enough now that does not happen. That said its mostly a pleasure trip.

I would like to meet non prof girls but won't complain if pros is all that come. Life is rarely fair and I made my peace with that.

Couple of pointers I have gotten thus far are travel during summer days.

1) June. Aug.

2) Is it a go or no go on Arcadia? 30 min drive from rest of city etc etc. (I clock F-ing 200 miles over weekend to meet dames oh how I like them so for a nice piece of poon count this DOG to crawl thru snow or desert).

Need advice on night life. I think with enough booze sweet talking, dead press all dames become friends not just US price tag on them.Hi DarkRaijin,

I was there last Summer, but I didn't monger as I was escorted with a blond Ukrainian girl round-the-clock. So I couldn't escape to have a look around in some private flats or anywhere at night time.

Public transport are not so great there in comparison with Kiev. There is no metro. So you have to use trams and vans or taxi. Trams are easier than vans to use, but they are slow and not so punctual. Vans and trams are quite smelly, pretty crowded and not so comfortable. Be prepared to be ripped off by taxi drivers, but that would still be pretty cheap for you in comparison of the US.

If I was mongering in Odessa, I wouldn't mind staying in Arcadia. There are beaches, restaurants, a shopping centre around and a "Silpo" food shop. Why to go to the center? To visit some old buildings and to go to other restaurants. Of course there are some private flats in the center, but some of them are also near Arcadia. For me both situations would be good, either the center or Arkadia.

Take notice that the water is usually cold there. I was there in July and the first two minutes in it was freezing. Then if you swimm a bit, the body starts to get used to it and that's bearable. It might be better when the temperatures outside are higher than 30 degrees or with some warm currents, flows, that I could sometimes enjoyed by swimming a bit farther from the shore.

Don't forget that Ukraine is not like Central and South America or some other continents. Girls won't be impressed with a guy from the US, they are white like you and you are nothing new to them. They will see in you a living ATM and many of them will be suspicious about your stay there, you, an American coming from so far away to their city. By "suspicious", I mean they will think that you are a sex tourist.

EscapeArtist
10-24-16, 08:17
I have a question why would a girl in Odessa turn down cash and request gifts or jewelry instead?


Hi DarkRaijin,

I was there last Summer, but I didn't monger as I was escorted with a blond Ukrainian girl round-the-clock. So I couldn't escape to have a look around in some private flats or anywhere at night time.

Public transport are not so great there in comparison with Kiev. There is no metro. So you have to use trams and vans or taxi. Trams are easier than vans to use, but they are slow and not so punctual. Vans and trams are quite smelly, pretty crowded and not so comfortable. Be prepared to be ripped off by taxi drivers, but that would still be pretty cheap for you in comparison of the US.

If I was mongering in Odessa, I wouldn't mind staying in Arcadia. There are beaches, restaurants, a shopping centre around and a "Silpo" food shop. Why to go to the center? To visit some old buildings and to go to other restaurants. Of course there are some private flats in the center, but some of them are also near Arcadia. For me both situations would be good, either the center or Arkadia.

Take notice that the water is usually cold there. I was there in July and the first two minutes in it was freezing. Then if you swimm a bit, the body starts to get used to it and that's bearable. It might be better when the temperatures outside are higher than 30 degrees or with some warm currents, flows, that I could sometimes enjoyed by swimming a bit farther from the shore.

Don't forget that Ukraine is not like Central and South America or some other continents. Girls won't be impressed with a guy from the US, they are white like you and you are nothing new to them. They will see in you a living ATM and many of them will be suspicious about your stay there, you, an American coming from so far away to their city. By "suspicious", I mean they will think that you are a sex tourist.

Volpone
10-26-16, 15:48
I have a question why would a girl in Odessa turn down cash and request gifts or jewelry instead?Well it depends on the context. Without knowing the situation it's difficult to give you a reason.

Some girls might enjoy more the effect of surprise as she doesn't know what she will get and that's exciting for her. Maybe she likes more jewelry than money, that's why she asks for jewelry.

YummyPL
10-26-16, 16:11
Well it depends on the context. Without knowing the situation it's difficult to give you a reason.

Some girls might enjoy more the effect of surprise as she doesn't know what she will get and that's exciting for her. Maybe she likes more jewelry than money, that's why she asks for jewelry.Or maybe she feels less like a prostitute if you give her gifts.

EscapeArtist
10-27-16, 01:24
Yes, I met her online. Long story short after a nude chat on Skype. I offered her 500 euro for the night, because she was flawless. She told me to save my money, that she would be a lot more satisfied with gifts or Jewelry, and we agreed to meet at Kompot the following evening. However, after some thought, I was skeptical and concerned. And since I was a member here, figured why not just ask.


Or maybe she feels less like a prostitute if you give her gifts.

Volpone
10-27-16, 08:14
Yes, I met her online. Long story short after a nude chat on Skype. I offered her 500 euro for the night, because she was flawless. She told me to save my money, that she would be a lot more satisfied with gifts or Jewelry, and we agreed to meet at Kompot the following evening. However, after some thought, I was skeptical and concerned. And since I was a member here, figured why not just ask.500 euro that's not enough. You can not give her just a small amount like that. I don't know where you come from, but that's peanuts here. You can buy nothing with 500 euro. She can not buy her own apartment with 500 euro, she needs at least 15000-20000 euro.

You must realize that most of the people earn around 100-250 euro for a full month of work in Odessa. So you want to give to that beautiful girl only 2 or 4 monthly salaries? You must at least give her for the half of the year. I think 1000 euro for one night, that's a kind and absolutely normal and not stupid price in Odessa.

By the way don't forget the tip, at least 10%.

EscapeArtist
10-27-16, 20:04
I'm sensing the sarcasm. Regardless of what I offered, she told me to keep it. She wanted gifts or jewelry instead. My question is why? Because I do know 500 euro is 2 months salary for her, because she told she makes 230 euro a month working two jobs.


500 euro that's not enough. You can not give her just a small amount like that. I don't know where you come from, but that's peanuts here. You can buy nothing with 500 euro. She can not buy her own apartment with 500 euro, she needs at least 15000-20000 euro.

You must realize that most of the people earn around 100-250 euro for a full month of work in Odessa. So you want to give to that beautiful girl only 2 or 4 monthly salaries? You must at least give her for the half of the year. I think 1000 euro for one night, that's a kind and absolutely normal and not stupid price in Odessa.

By the way don't forget the tip, at least 10%.

Volpone
10-28-16, 08:17
I'm sensing the sarcasm. Regardless of what I offered, she told me to keep it. She wanted gifts or jewelry instead. My question is why? Because I do know 500 euro is 2 months salary for her, because she told she makes 230 euro a month working two jobs.I think what YummyPL wrote might be right. To get a gift, it's not the same as money. So she can feel that she is not a prostitute and that you are a kind of boyfriend. Maybe she has some other reasons. Ask her. That would be one way to understand better these girls.

DudeNextDoor
11-03-16, 22:33
Yes, I met her online. Long story short after a nude chat on Skype. I offered her 500 euro for the night, because she was flawless. She told me to save my money, that she would be a lot more satisfied with gifts or Jewelry, and we agreed to meet at Kompot the following evening. However, after some thought, I was skeptical and concerned. And since I was a member here, figured why not just ask.No need to look online, just eat everyday at Kompot and aim at hot girls dining alone. They usually are there any time of the day. Hotbody. Dressed up nice! They are there to meet you but donot expect them to be cheap!

Vitrea
12-07-16, 19:34
Guys, Two of my friends and I are planing a trip to Ukraine the last week of April. It is a 5 day 6 night trip. We fly info Kiev. My question is this. Is it worth going to Odessa for two days for mongering or should I spend all my six days in Kiev? I have been to Kiev once for a very short two day trip and had a good time, though it was rushed. I wrote a detailed trip report on the Kiev thread.

This would be a purely mongering trip. Not much interest in the beach scene. Any advice?

YummyPL
12-08-16, 01:28
Not much interest in the beach scene. Any advice?Good thing. In late April the beaches are still cold as fuck and pretty much deserted. But your question is a good one because I will be there too. When I was there in April of 2013 it was fun but it seems the world has moved on according to most here.

Tomas11
12-08-16, 11:45
Guys, Two of my friends and I are planing a trip to Ukraine the last week of April. It is a 5 day 6 night trip. We fly info Kiev. My question is this. Is it worth going to Odessa for two days for mongering or should I spend all my six days in Kiev? I have been to Kiev once for a very short two day trip and had a good time, though it was rushed. I wrote a detailed trip report on the Kiev thread.

This would be a purely mongering trip. Not much interest in the beach scene. Any advice?Don't go to Odessa in April, first of all its 500 km trip on a shitty road, unless you will fly on a local plane which will take you in an hour or so. BTW if you fly on local planes don't eat anything what they serve you.

Also it could be cold, same talent in Kiev is available.

Timmy21
12-09-16, 00:10
Guys, Two of my friends and I are planing a trip to Ukraine the last week of April. It is a 5 day 6 night trip. We fly info Kiev. My question is this. Is it worth going to Odessa for two days for mongering or should I spend all my six days in Kiev? I have been to Kiev once for a very short two day trip and had a good time, though it was rushed. I wrote a detailed trip report on the Kiev thread.

This would be a purely mongering trip. Not much interest in the beach scene. Any advice?Why go to Odessa for just two days, if it's a month, absolutely, regardless of the time of year. You'll be in Kiev for only 5 days, with so much to see and do, why leave. If you do decide to go; make sure you fly, UIA has two flights daily to Odessa from KBP, R/ T will cost around 70 dollars.

Vitrea
12-09-16, 07:22
Why go to Odessa for just two days, if it's a month, absolutely, regardless of the time of year. You'll be in Kiev for only 5 days, with so much to see and do, why leave. If you do decide to go; make sure you fly, UIA has two flights daily to Odessa from KBP, R/ T will cost around 70 dollars.Sounds like Excellent advice. I will take it. Cheers.

Rulerk
12-15-16, 15:28
I am currently living in Odessa and have been for the last 10 years. I run a business consulting firm here as well as a small tourist agency, so if you like, I can help with just about any aspect of your journey to Odessa or Ukraine (including finding apartments, hotels, tours or girls). I am also available to hang out and go skirt chasing pretty much anytime since I work my own hours.

PM me for questions or contact info.

RulerK.

BobSmith1
12-29-16, 05:01
I am currently living in Odessa and have been for the last 10 years. I run a business consulting firm here as well as a small tourist agency, so if you like, I can help with just about any aspect of your journey to Odessa or Ukraine (including finding apartments, hotels, tours or girls). I am also available to hang out and go skirt chasing pretty much anytime since I work my own hours.

PM me for questions or contact info.

RulerK.Hi RulerK,

Thanks for offering help. I would like to know more. I spent 2.5 weeks in Kiev and Kharkiv. I found that Kharkiv got more college girls and I may consider marrying one. Kiev got a lot of pro-daters (They have been washed by foreigners like US and West Euro). I heard that Odessa same thing a lot of pro-daters and prosy. I'm planning another trip to Kharkiv and probably spend a little longer time there. I got 2 purposes, 1st I still want to find a good 1 to marry maybe from Kharkiv. 2nd, I still want to mess around while I'm looking for my future wife. I saw a very very pretty one in Kiev Hotel Rus. Blond, ass and boobs and sexy curves all over her body. Its very difficult to find one like this in San Francisco. I heard she needs $200 only which is pretty good. I like to chat with you more but I don't know how to private message to you bro.

Coscos7
12-31-16, 17:52
Hi RulerK,

I need some help of finding Girls, how can we get in touch? Its allowed t sent you my phone?

Thanks, enjoy your eve, happy new year.


I am currently living in Odessa and have been for the last 10 years. I run a business consulting firm here as well as a small tourist agency, so if you like, I can help with just about any aspect of your journey to Odessa or Ukraine (including finding apartments, hotels, tours or girls). I am also available to hang out and go skirt chasing pretty much anytime since I work my own hours.

PM me for questions or contact info.

RulerK.===============================================

Greetings,

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BionicMan
01-01-17, 15:34
Well it depends on the context. Without knowing the situation it's difficult to give you a reason.

Some girls might enjoy more the effect of surprise as she doesn't know what she will get and that's exciting for her. Maybe she likes more jewelry than money, that's why she asks for jewelry.Maybe jewelry, proper One, costs more than 500/.

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Vitrea
05-23-17, 17:24
As most of you that have read my report known that I had a great time in Keiv few weeks ago. I'm planning a return trip but this time I'm thinking of doing four days in Odessa in early to mid-September. My question is this: When do universities start classes? I don't want to miss out in the semi pro chicks that need to go back to school.

And in general, is that a good time to visit?

Reiner Otto
05-25-17, 15:59
And in general, is that a good time to visit?July, August best. In Sept, go as early as possible, as discos in Arkadia still open. And some beach activities.

Rulerk
06-15-17, 10:26
This post is valid until November 15, 2017-.

I am currently living in Odessa and have been for more than 10 years. I run a business consulting firm here as well as a small tourist agency, so, if you like, I can help with just about any aspect of your journey to Odessa or Ukraine (including finding apartments, hotels, tours or girls). I am also available to hang out and go skirt-chasing pretty much anytime since I work my own hours.

PM me for questions or contact info. I am not on the site unless I get an alert and sometimes the forum alerts don't go through to my e-mail. If I don't respond within a few days, please PM me again so that I get the e-mail / see the alert and can respond to you.

RulerK.

Volpone
07-19-17, 07:02
I am in Odessa right now, enjoying the sun, the beach and the sea more than the girls. What interests me more in Ukraine are the non-pros. For that I was using Mamba these last 2 years in Kiev and it worked pretty well. However at the end of last year with the invasion from the mafia putting profiles of pros, it becomes harder to get the real non-pros. Some would say, just hunt in the streets or everywhere, well I did, it doesn't work at all. They are not interested in foreigners, Odessa is full of foreigners every Summer, nothing new for them. Furthermore now they can go in Europe easily without visa.

Here in Odessa it's even worst. If you use Mamba you can find about 60 profiles, girls from 18-30, that are looking for sex or a sponsor. You can be sure that the half are pros, that just offer, sex and covered BJ. The other half are either girls that might be very selective, so be good looking on your photos or they can ignore you, or girls that are looking for a sponsor that would be at the same time a real boyfriend or girls that just having fun and are even not in Odessa or girls that don't read their messages anymore. So after doing my homework, preparing my trip, I just got 5 phone numbers of non-pros. I met 2 of them, both great, but now I have nothing more, because the 3 left, one doesn't want to do BBBJ, so it's a no go for me, another one ask 100 dollars for 1 hour without BBBJ, no way, and the last one has canceled 3 meetings. I even don't try to bargain the price here, because my choice is so limited. I don't want to lose the few girls I have.

So when I feel like having sex, I just make a call and I find a pro that do BBBJ. On one Ukrainian website you can see a few that do BBBJ or CIM. I went to one place, a sovietic style smoky flat. The young girl was a 7, no English at all, Russian is really useful in Odessa and I got my BBBJ, unfortunately for a shorter time than with the non-pros. There are plenty of flats of pros in Odessa, but most of them don't want to do BBBJ or they ask a supplement. With my Russian knowledge it's pretty easy to go to these flats.

Please don't ask me for the few non-pros contacts I have here, because I would have to answer like some other members on this forum did. No answer at all, even to get just some information about the city and where to find some girls. So I would be as laconic as they were with me. It's a pity.

However in my misfortune, I had a big luck, but that will be for another post.

Tomek123
07-19-17, 10:59
I am in Odessa right now, enjoying the sun, the beach and the sea more than the girls. What interests me more in Ukraine are the non-pros. For that I was using Mamba these last 2 years in Kiev and it worked pretty well. However at the end of last year with the invasion from the mafia putting profiles of pros, it becomes harder to get the real non-pros. Some would say, just hunt in the streets or everywhere, well I did, it doesn't work at all. They are not interested in foreigners, Odessa is full of foreigners every Summer, nothing new for them. Furthermore now they can go in Europe easily without visa.

Here in Odessa it's even worst. If you use Mamba you can find about 60 profiles, girls from 18-30, that are looking for sex or a sponsor. You can be sure that the half are pros, that just offer, sex and covered BJ. The other half are either girls that might be very selective, so be good looking on your photos or they can ignore you, or girls that are looking for a sponsor that would be at the same time a real boyfriend or girls that just having fun and are even not in Odessa or girls that don't read their messages anymore. So after doing my homework, preparing my trip, I just got 5 phone numbers of non-pros. I met 2 of them, both great, but now I have nothing more, because the 3 left, one doesn't want to do BBBJ, so it's a no go for me, another one ask 100 dollars for 1 hour without BBBJ, no way, and the last one has canceled 3 meetings. I even don't try to bargain the price here, because my choice is so limited. I don't want to lose the few girls I have..Maybe if you are looking for non-professionals then you can use not only the services of the site Mamba. Ru. But also other dating sites.

Volpone
07-19-17, 19:01
Maybe if you are looking for non-professionals then you can use not only the services of the site Mamba. Ru. But also other dating sites.I did, but without success. Even worse than Mamba.

There are pros and non-pros on Tinder, but I got nothing, except one non-pros that wanted 100 dollars for BJ and sex.

Furthermore my profile has the same photos as I was using in Kiev where it worked pretty well to get non-pros. I think they have too much choices, so they don't know which guy to choose.

Misc123
07-20-17, 04:00
Hi Volpone,

What happened to the other 3 girls? Where did they go?

I had some luck sitting in the city garden and Deribasovskaya, even McDonalds at night.

Give it a try.

It is a hit or miss though but in summer your chances are better.

Ciao.

Misc.


I am in Odessa right now, enjoying the sun, the beach and the sea more than the girls. What interests me more in Ukraine are the non-pros. For that I was using Mamba these last 2 years in Kiev and it worked pretty well. However at the end of last year with the invasion from the mafia putting profiles of pros, it becomes harder to get the real non-pros. Some would say, just hunt in the streets or everywhere, well I did, it doesn't work at all. They are not interested in foreigners, Odessa is full of foreigners every Summer, nothing new for them. Furthermore now they can go in Europe easily without visa.

Here in Odessa it's even worst. If you use Mamba you can find about 60 profiles, girls from 18-30, that are looking for sex or a sponsor. You can be sure that the half are pros, that just offer, sex and covered BJ. The other half are either girls that might be very selective, so be good looking on your photos or they can ignore you, or girls that are looking for a sponsor that would be at the same time a real boyfriend or girls that just having fun and are even not in Odessa or girls that don't read their messages anymore. So after doing my homework, preparing my trip, I just got 5 phone numbers of non-pros. I met 2 of them, both great, but now I have nothing more, because the 3 left, one doesn't want to do BBBJ, so it's a no go for me, another one ask 100 dollars for 1 hour without BBBJ, no way, and the last one has canceled 3 meetings. I even don't try to bargain the price here, because my choice is so limited. I don't want to lose the few girls I have.

So when I feel like having sex, I just make a call and I find a pro that do BBBJ. On one Ukrainian website you can see a few that do BBBJ or CIM. I went to one place, a sovietic style smoky flat. The young girl was a 7, no English at all, Russian is really useful in Odessa and I got my BBBJ, unfortunately for a shorter time than with the non-pros. There are plenty of flats of pros in Odessa, but most of them don't want to do BBBJ or they ask a supplement. With my Russian knowledge it's pretty easy to go to these flats.

Please don't ask me for the few non-pros contacts I have here, because I would have to answer like some other members on this forum did. No answer at all, even to get just some information about the city and where to find some girls. So I would be as laconic as they were with me. It's a pity.

However in my misfortune, I had a big luck, but that will be for another post.

Volpone
07-20-17, 06:27
Hi Volpone,

What happened to the other 3 girls? Where did they go?

I had some luck sitting in the city garden and Deribasovskaya, even McDonalds at night.

Give it a try.

It is a hit or miss though but in summer your chances are better.

Ciao.

Misc.Thanks guys for your precious advices.

About the 3 other girls one doesn't want to do BBBJ, so it's a no go for me, another one ask 100 dollars for 1 hour without BBBJ, no way, and the last one has canceled 3 meetings. There were 2 other one, but they are not in Odessa now.

YummyPL
07-21-17, 00:01
Thanks guys for your precious advices.

About the 3 other girls one doesn't want to do BBBJ, so it's a no go for me, another one ask 100 dollars for 1 hour without BBBJ, no way, and the last one has canceled 3 meetings. There were 2 other one, but they are not in Odessa now.Volpone, I am curious how old you are. What you are saying is surprising to me.

DudeNextDoor
07-21-17, 00:48
I do like my BBBJ but I am not going to shell out 100 usd in Odessa for that. Believe me I do spend more then that on occasion in other countries but never in Odessa. Its just too much.

A non related Odessa experience of mine. I met this gal through another working girl. She comes in we chat, drink some, smoke and then we move to the bedroom after her quick shower and we make out, BBBJ and then covered fucking in various positons.

Towards the end she was riding me rewerse cowgirl and ıt strted to feel great toa point I could not resist but cum. We then realised the cover was gone and she got a nice creampie!

She was almost going to cry but then smiled and told me she needs to take a pill so she would not be preggo att the age of 20. So she asks for 280 grivnas for the pill. At this point I kinda knew she would just take the money and risk the pregnancy. Thats how the ukrainian woman are.

I told her that's too much so she agreed half and half. I gave her 150 grivnas and she walked away happy.

Cheers,

Bobby.


Thanks guys for your precious advices.

About the 3 other girls one doesn't want to do BBBJ, so it's a no go for me, another one ask 100 dollars for 1 hour without BBBJ, no way, and the last one has canceled 3 meetings. There were 2 other one, but they are not in Odessa now.

Coyle
12-11-17, 02:25
Hey,

Guess nothing is going on in Odessa?

It is hard to believe the level of girls in this ad.

Vip-dosug dot org. Odessa section. Does anybody have experience using this website?

How about renting a car in Odessa and try to have sex on the beach road at night?

Chime in please!

PhotoSlider
12-12-17, 01:14
How about renting a car in Odessa and try to have sex on the beach road at night?

Chime in please!It is not convenient for the girl, for you, for bystanders, and for police. For Christ's sake, where are you going to take the shower before and after? What if she is beautiful, but at this very moment smells not so appropriately, just because.

Why in the car? Rhetoric question.

Coyle
12-12-17, 05:05
I personally like car sex because I feel deeper and those thrill excites me.

Of course, the girl. I think I will reserve entire night, after a few fucks, then suggest go out for fresh air. Some cold water splashing my penis and fresh air sometimes get me strength for full intercourse.


It is not convenient for the girl, for you, for bystanders, and for police. For Christ's sake, where are you going to take the shower before and after? What if she is beautiful, but at this very moment smells not so appropriately, just because.

Why in the car? Rhetoric question.

MadHatter1975
12-25-17, 17:34
I was in Odessa in beginning of December (IE: start of winter).

1st Night.

Stay at Hotel Black Sea Rishelievskaya as I'd previously heard there may be some action available at this hotel. Unfortunately I didn't really see any encouraging signs in or around the hotel whilst there, plus hotel has a security man stationed 24/7 near the elevators which didn't help matters.

2nd Night.

Moved to Zirka Hotel, which is a very budget hotel that I'd read locals use when they want to screw. The rooms in this hotel are very close together and the walls very thin, and judging by the noise at all hours of the night, the guests were definitely getting it on, though with who, I don't know.

I walked around Zirka Hotel, especially near the corner of Uspenska St, and Preobrazhenska St, cause I'd read on the forum about the possibility of street walkers. But I didn't really see any. I walked down to Derybasivska st, very later at night, saw many cute looking girls drinking and having fun at the bars near the McDonalds, but none seemed obviously to be P4 P.

Whilst walking back to Hotel Zirka, I accidentally walked two blocks too far and to my surprise saw two young street walkers at the intersection of Velyka Arnauts'ka and Preobrazhenska St. One (Brunette) spoke very good English whilst the other one (blonde) didn't speak much at all. They were very wary of me (as a foreigner).

The Brunette quoted me 1500 UAH for 1 shot. I tried to bargain down, but quickly agreed to what she was asking cause my time in Odessa was very limited and both the girls were very pretty. After agreeing to 1500 UAH, she suddenly changed her mind and became very cautious and started insisting I take both of them for 3000 UAH. I refused and walked away for a few minutes and eyed them from afar. Then a taxi pulled up near them with probably a customer inside. After a bit of discussion the Blonde got into the taxi and drove off. With only the Brunette left, I approached again and reasoned with her, until she finally agreed to go me to Zirka Hotel.

The brunette was quite well educated and had a nice personality. In the room, she had a very beautiful slender body and silky smooth skin. I went down on her for at least around 5-10 mins. She did a decent CBJ and was I'd say, above average in enthusiasm and performance when it came to the main act.

3rd Night.

Went to same intersection as mentioned above, this time chose the blonde. Once again, the brunette friend who did the negotiating, insisted on coming along and being in the room, whilst I banged her friend. I think she was just being overly protective of her friend. Though she didn't ask for any money this time, because of the awkwardness factor and due to how tiny my room was, I refused and said I just wanted the 1 girl. We finally ended up agreeing that she would come along and stay outside of room in the foyer whilst I banged her friend.

The blonde had a slightly more sexy figure than her slender brunette friend. Did DATY on the blonde for about 10 mins. Once again overall a good enjoyable experience. Both Girls let me take pictures with their faces turned. Unfortunately I can't share them, cause both are sweet girls who are clearly very cautious about what they do, and I wouldn't want to put them in any further jeopardy.

4th Night.

This time called a girl I saw on a agency website (can't remember which one). Agency said girl on site was fake photo, and send me on viber, 4 photos of girls available instead. They quoted me 1000 UAH plus 200 for taxi. I agreed and chose a mature blonde. She arrived around 30 mins later. She looked older than the picture, but from the get go, this lady was very very enthusiastic especially during DATY. She was enjoying it so much that I must have been down there for at least 25-30 mins. Since the rooms were windowless and the A/C wasn't working, we both were soaked in sweat. After the DATY I was so pumped, I screwed her in several positions and finished in missionary in one of the best sessions I've ever had.

Jojab007
04-08-18, 22:47
Warning!

Be aware when contacting girls from mamba, ukrgo, tinder, etc.

Some guys, posing as girls, are collecting your information. Pictures, phone number, location.

They do search on internet against that information, even background images in your pictures. Finally they post all that data on these extortion websites called hall of shame and ask you to register and pay $100 to remove your conent.

I know all that because I became victim myself. Luckily, I always use fake picture and virtual phone numbers.

Please be careful when sharing your information, especially when girl seem too interested in your personal life.

PM me if you want specific information.

Karat
05-25-18, 12:51
Jojab007,

Please give some more information on that. I don't understand why someone could blackmail me with data, which are harmless and more or less public anyway. And which website "called hall of shame" is it? I wonder why authorities didn't close these websites.

Thanks, Karat.

Member #4722
06-13-18, 18:10
Been trolling on Mamba for any action but it seems tougher than Kiev for meeting babes. Going to be in town July 1 and 2 if anyone wants to meet up.

Member #4722
06-15-18, 21:46
Looks like Mamba is pretty bad in Odessa. Not many ladies looking for sponsor. Two young and beautiful wrote me back they wanted $400-$500! Will probably use one of the agencies and hope for the best.

DramaFree11
06-18-18, 20:45
Looks like Mamba is pretty bad in Odessa. Not many ladies looking for sponsor. Two young and beautiful wrote me back they wanted $400-$500! Will probably use one of the agencies and hope for the best.

Odessa is a fun place, but for girls very difficult and even more games then Kiev. You would think the opposite, but can be very frustrating and expensive. Still very fun place.

Member #4722
06-19-18, 02:21
Looks like Mamba is pretty bad in Odessa. Not many ladies looking for sponsor. Two young and beautiful wrote me back they wanted $400-$500! Will probably use one of the agencies and hope for the best.

Odessa is a fun place, but for girls very difficult and even more games then Kiev. You would think the opposite, but can be very frustrating and expensive. Still very fun place.Do you think the clubs will still be busy on Sunday and Monday night?

Maxo151
06-22-18, 21:38
Hi guys,

Planning a trip next month. So far odessa, kyiev and baku (Azerbaijan) on the list.

I was RTFF but saw a post on 2016 on just page 2. How's the scene here?

I read good things about the party scene but what is mongering situation? It is a major decider for us.

Also, what do you think about Odessa / Kiev? Do both? Do just one?

TIA.

Reiner Otto
06-23-18, 08:54
Hi guys,
Also, what do you think about Odessa / Kiev? Do both? Do just one?
July / August go to Odessa (Arkadia). Most of / all the models from Kiev are there, for the beach and the clubs.

However, you will need deep pockets.

Volpone
06-24-18, 07:37
July / August go to Odessa (Arkadia). Most of / all the models from Kiev are there, for the beach and the clubs.

However, you will need deep pockets.I would add to be good looking or to have something special, because they can choose the one that suit them. You won't be the unique foreigner there and you will also be in competition with Ukrainian men. Of course if you pay more than your competitors, that would be ok. Just be ready for high amounts, maybe more than in your own country.

Maxo151
06-24-18, 16:44
Thanks for the info. What is deep pockets? Ballpartk USD for short, long, night?


July / August go to Odessa (Arkadia). Most of / all the models from Kiev are there, for the beach and the clubs.

However, you will need deep pockets.

Reiner Otto
06-27-18, 20:51
Thanks for the info. What is deep pockets? Ballpartk USD for short, long, night?Lot of cash for the party with the girl (s) in Ibiza or Itaka, the best clubs in Arkadia.

And as pocket money for the real fun afterwards. In case you have some luck.

Member #4722
06-28-18, 04:06
Lot of cash for the party with the girl (s) in Ibiza or Itaka, the best clubs in Arkadia.

And as pocket money for the real fun afterwards. In case you have some luck.Looks like I am going to forget about getting laid during my short trip to Odessa. Have some ladies waiting in Kiev offering reasonable rates. Maybe I will get lucky at the club. If anyone wants to meet up I have an extra ticket for a concert at Ibiza Sunday night.

Reiner Otto
06-28-18, 06:10
Have some ladies waiting in Kiev offering reasonable rates.Then take one from Kiev to Odessa.

Womaniszer
07-10-18, 09:36
Can any one please guide.

Is this website really reliable.

https://relaxportal.biz/eng/

Means are girls real or its just an agency.

DudeNextDoor
07-11-18, 12:05
I have used them in Odessa, Kiev, Lviv, Kharkiv and Zapo. They only failed in Zapo. The rest all worked out.

1st the photos are fake, some girls resemble the girl in photos, some do not at all!

Almost all of them come through agency.

You are better of going to clubs, massage parlors, brothels, escort agency location and pick what you like. That's not cheaper but better. Without hassles.

When the girl shows up way to different then your likes, make sure you send her back and call agency for another one.

I just do not like the waiting game. The girl comes in 30-50 minutes after the call, then I go downstairs and realize she is not the same girl or not to my liking. Then I call the agency, coos them out and then wait again for an hour for a girl to show up and the risk of starting the same process all over again.

When you travel alone, you do not have girls phone numbers handy, no local contacts, no car, it is easier to use the website. So it is okay for your 1st few times in the city but then you should be able to find better looking girls for better rates and terms. (bareback BJ, going out to dinner, inviting her sister for a 3 some etc etc).


Can any one please guide.

Is this website really reliable.

https://relaxportal.biz/eng/

Means are girls real or its just an agency.

Womaniszer
07-12-18, 02:14
I have used them in Odessa, Kiev, Lviv, Kharkiv and Zapo. They only failed in Zapo. The rest all worked out.

1st the photos are fake, some girls resemble the girl in photos, some do not at all!

Almost all of them come through agency.

You are better of going to clubs, massage parlors, brothels, escort agency location and pick what you like. That's not cheaper but better. Without hassles.

When the girl shows up way to different then your likes, make sure you send her back and call agency for another one.

I just do not like the waiting game. The girl comes in 30-50 minutes after the call, then I go downstairs and realize she is not the same girl or not to my liking. Then I call the agency, coos them out and then wait again for an hour for a girl to show up and the risk of starting the same process all over again.

When you travel alone, you do not have girls phone numbers handy, no local contacts, no car, it is easier to use the website. So it is okay for your 1st few times in the city but then you should be able to find better looking girls for better rates and terms. (bareback BJ, going out to dinner, inviting her sister for a 3 some etc etc).Thanks 4 replying.

Much appreciated.

Good Luck.

Womaniszer
07-17-18, 09:15
Hi all,

I am going on a 10 days tour to Ukraine, after 2 weeks.

Odessa and Kiev.

May I request generous members to share contacts, of girls whom they have enjoyed.

I would be grateful.

AndrewHaim2
07-17-18, 09:46
Looks like I am going to forget about getting laid during my short trip to Odessa. Have some ladies waiting in Kiev offering reasonable rates. Maybe I will get lucky at the club. If anyone wants to meet up I have an extra ticket for a concert at Ibiza Sunday night.I am in Odessa now with no luck on the adverts or the locals. Will PM you for any tips you may have. Strip Clubs like The Office are nice here but not even the underwear comes off on the stage or the first private lap dance.

Volpone
07-17-18, 15:25
I am in Odessa now with no luck on the adverts or the locals. Will PM you for any tips you may have. Strip Clubs like The Office are nice here but not even the underwear comes off on the stage or the first private lap dance.Well I am also in Odessa now and I've got some luck with the local girls. I may confess that I was here last year, so I could gather a few phone numbers and keeping them preciously to use them this year, that makes life so much easier. I also agree with Andrew, it's not easy here, it takes a time, sometimes lots of time to get a phone number.

AndrewHaim2
07-17-18, 17:03
Well I am also in Odessa now and I've got some luck with the local girls. I may confess that I was here last year, so I could gather a few phone numbers and keeping them preciously to use them this year, that makes life so much easier. I also agree with Andrew, it's not easy here, it takes a time, sometimes lots of time to get a phone number.Good to hear Volpone, can you PM them to me? I have finally got one lined up for tonight and will put a review up.

Misc123
07-17-18, 20:39
Hi Volpone. Good to see your post again. I was in Odessa, a few years back in summer. I got a few leads from.

Mister-x. Org.

At least 2 of the 3 girls I got, had their real photos up. But mostly they have fake photos.

I also got a few leads from sitting in Deribasovskaya McDonalds and the city park on the same street after 10 pm.

Taxi drivers also know some hot spots near the port and Malaya Arnautskaya.

You can also pick up girls from Arkadia in summer (premium priced).

Knowing Russian helps.

Where are you all getting your girls from?

Odessa is difficult compared to Kiev.

Ciao.

Misc.

Volpone
07-18-18, 06:37
Hi Volpone. Good to see your post again. I was in Odessa, a few years back in summer. I got a few leads from.

Mister-x. Org.

At least 2 of the 3 girls I got, had their real photos up. But mostly they have fake photos.

I also got a few leads from sitting in Deribasovskaya McDonalds and the city park on the same street after 10 pm.

Taxi drivers also know some hot spots near the port and Malaya Arnautskaya.

You can also pick up girls from Arkadia in summer (premium priced).

Knowing Russian helps.

Where are you all getting your girls from?

Odessa is difficult compared to Kiev.

Ciao.

Misc.Hi Misc,

Yeah I know all that)) (I lived here 2 months last year), but I don't use pros in Ukraine anymore. I stick to the non-pros. I usually find them on the web.

Some girls ask outrageous amount for the poorest country in Europe: 200-400 $ for a few hours. Be aware that sometimes just classical sex is included in the price. Don't be afraid to ask for what you like. If they don't, just look for another one.

Yeah in the center there are some pros. I met some of them last year and that's right Russian helps a lot here. There are also some flats with pros. Anysway as I said I stick to the non-pros and I have a good time with my small harem of chicks. The second time, the second stay is much easier than the first one. Just have to make a phone call and the girl is at the door)))). But it takes time to find them.

Misc123
07-18-18, 20:45
Hi Volpone. Good to hear from you. Off course, you are an experienced hand. And my info was mostly for newbies.

Yes, prices are all over the place, especially after EU lifted visa requirements for Ukrainians, and more low cost airlines come in.

How long are you planning to be in Odessa, this time?

You said, you get lot of non-pros from the web.

Any particular website or just mamba?

What kind of $, Euro or uah/hour cost?

As always, all your information is most appreciated.

Spasibo.

Ciao.

Misc.


Hi Misc,

Yeah I know all that)) (I lived here 2 months last year), but I don't use pros in Ukraine anymore. I stick to the non-pros. I usually find them on the web.

Some girls ask outrageous amount for the poorest country in Europe: 200-400 $ for a few hours. Be aware that sometimes just classical sex is included in the price. Don't be afraid to ask for what you like. If they don't, just look for another one.

Yeah in the center there are some pros. I met some of them last year and that's right Russian helps a lot here. There are also some flats with pros. Anysway as I said I stick to the non-pros and I have a good time with my small harem of chicks. The second time, the second stay is much easier than the first one. Just have to make a phone call and the girl is at the door)))). But it takes time to find them.

Volpone
07-21-18, 12:34
Hi Volpone. Good to hear from you. Off course, you are an experienced hand. And my info was mostly for newbies.

Yes, prices are all over the place, especially after EU lifted visa requirements for Ukrainians, and more low cost airlines come in.

How long are you planning to be in Odessa, this time?

You said, you get lot of non-pros from the web.

Any particular website or just mamba?

What kind of $, Euro or uah/hour cost?

As always, all your information is most appreciated.

Spasibo.

Ciao.

Misc.Hi Misc,

Well I have some tough time, fighting against a ear infection, probably coming from the "clean"sea. Anyway what to expect with a one milion city along the sea.

I have a good time here with my girls, but all of them now are girls I met last year. So if I remove my contacts of last year, I would have had sex 3 times in one month with non-pros. The first new one I met is a 6, flat ass, flat breasts, just an average face, skinny, I paid her 1500 UAH for one hour with BBBJ, 69. We had a long oral session before sex, around 45 minutes and she provided a good service. However the second time I asked her to come, she wanted 1800 UAH = 60 euro. Forget it! I was feeling meeting her again, but rather for 1300 UAH or less. The second new one is a 6-7 in quality and I had also a very good service with her and long time oral sex without condom. I met her twice, the first time for 1500 UAH = 50 euro and the second time for 1300 UAH = 50 dollars. She didn't complain that I asked for a cheaper price as it was the second time. The following days we chatted on whatsap and had some fun and suddenly I have no contact with her at all. I had another opportunity with a girl for 100 euro for 1 hour. I declined it. Some others opportunities with girls that wanted just normal sex witout BBBJ for more than 100 euro for 1 hour. Forget it. That's why I can say if I wasn't using my old contacts here in Odessa, it would have been worst than last year. I forget to mention, I got some other phone numbers of girls, but when I see their real photos, I realised that they are less than in average quality. One of them was even upset when I agreed to give her 1000 UAH, the girl is 4. 1000 UAH, that's lots of money in Ukraine. You can eat for 1 week with 1000 UAH, you can buy 4 hand bags for women, you can go to the hairdresser 20 times, you can have 10-20 business lunches, it depends on the restaurants, you can go 2 times from Kiev to the airport and back by taxi. You can pay your cell phone contract for more than 2 years. Etc. Etc.

I got this contacts mostly from Mamba. I will be here 2 more weeks then will head to Kiev.

Misc123
07-24-18, 04:57
Hi Volpone,

I hope you are feeling better now. It is no fun to get sick in a foreign country and that too alone.

Yes Black sea in odessa is not that clean.

I am glad you are having fun in Odessa. Old or new.

Yes, girls are asking all kinds of prices, whatever they can get away with.

You are right about paying 1000 uah for a 4. It maybe lot of money for ukraine.

But girls in ukraine now compare themselves with those in EU.

With no visa required for EU, girls are free to go to EU to earn those higher money. And people are paying them.

I was last in Odessa 2 years back.

Odessa used to be much cheaper in the old days.

Not anymore it seems.

Advent of discount airlines and Ryanair (coming), no visa to EU, Champions cup, more foreigners who are willing to pay western prices in ukraine, are all causing prices to spike.

No break for discount mongers like us.

Stay safe and healthy.

Ciao.

Misc.


Hi Misc,

Well I have some tough time, fighting against a ear infection, probably coming from the "clean"sea. Anyway what to expect with a one milion city along the sea.

I have a good time here with my girls, but all of them now are girls I met last year. So if I remove my contacts of last year, I would have had sex 3 times in one month with non-pros. The first new one I met is a 6, flat ass, flat breasts, just an average face, skinny, I paid her 1500 UAH for one hour with BBBJ, 69. We had a long oral session before sex, around 45 minutes and she provided a good service. However the second time I asked her to come, she wanted 1800 UAH = 60 euro. Forget it! I was feeling meeting her again, but rather for 1300 UAH or less. The second new one is a 6-7 in quality and I had also a very good service with her and long time oral sex without condom. I met her twice, the first time for 1500 UAH = 50 euro and the second time for 1300 UAH = 50 dollars. She didn't complain that I asked for a cheaper price as it was the second time. The following days we chatted on whatsap and had some fun and suddenly I have no contact with her at all. I had another opportunity with a girl for 100 euro for 1 hour. I declined it. Some others opportunities with girls that wanted just normal sex witout BBBJ for more than 100 euro for 1 hour. Forget it. That's why I can say if I wasn't using my old contacts here in Odessa, it would have been worst than last year. I forget to mention, I got some other phone numbers of girls, but when I see their real photos, I realised that they are less than in average quality. One of them was even upset when I agreed to give her 1000 UAH, the girl is 4. 1000 UAH, that's lots of money in Ukraine. You can eat for 1 week with 1000 UAH, you can buy 4 hand bags for women, you can go to the hairdresser 20 times, you can have 10-20 business lunches, it depends on the restaurants, you can go 2 times from Kiev to the airport and back by taxi. You can pay your cell phone contract for more than 2 years. Etc. Etc.

I got this contacts mostly from Mamba. I will be here 2 more weeks then will head to Kiev.

Member #4722
07-25-18, 18:33
I recently spent one night in Odessa. I didn't get laid but had probably one of the best times I can remember. It was a Sunday but Ibiza club was packed. They had a great concert by the Ukranian band Onuka and there were tons of babes in the club. I went there convinced that getting a girl was too expensive or too hard so I was content just to party and have a good time. I met more women than I have in a long, long time. This late 20's early 30's really beautiful girl I thought was looking at me all night and I finally got the chance to talk to her and we had a real nice time together. She was a local and lived closeby I walked her to her place as she had an early flight in the morning. I had tried to kiss her earlier in the night and got the turned cheek so I played it cool when we said our goodbyes but I had the feeling if she didn't have the early flight it may have been Game On. It was a nice and very romantic time with this one though. So went back to the club and my confidence was high wound up with some girl that was hot but drunk and crazy and she was kissing me one minute and slapping me the next. I am pretty sure she was angling for me to pay her to go home but I was too drunk at that point (probably 4 or 5 AM) and knew it would be a waste of money. Wound up going to the sea with some friends I met walking around I was the fifth wheel for two girls and two tourist guys. The pretty blonde girl I could tell was feeling me though. The girls stripped into their bra and panties to swim in the black sea. The blonde girl was looking so good her lingerie was completely see through. My inclination was to try and get her away from the guy she was already talking too but I am too nice of a guy so eventually I just left to go home as I had a flight to catch early afternoon. I need to go back and experience this city more as this was a Sunday night and I had the time of my life. I can only imagine what it is like on a Friday or Saturday!

GT1983
07-28-18, 18:21
Hi all,

Going to be in Odessa last two weeks of August on my own, if anyone have want to join me as a wingman, not really into paying for sex unless its really last resort or she is stunning, I like to try and chase some female and use some sort of charm. To be honest its my first time in Odessa and haven't a clue what I'm getting myself into. Any tips of places to go or meet girls up for fun. I know Ukrainian are not into one night stands but any advice or tips were to go find non pros or ome girls done for fun, also I don't speak any Ukrainian so its going to be an experience.

So hopefully someone can join me and have a few beers and talk shit to a load of pretty girls.

Have a good weekend.

DramaFree11
07-29-18, 17:27
I recently spent one night in Odessa. I didn't get laid but had probably one of the best times I can remember. It was a Sunday but Ibiza club was packed. They had a great concert by the Ukrainian band Onuka and there were tons of babes in the club. I went there convinced that getting a girl was too expensive or too hard so I was content just to party and have a good time. I met more women than I have in a long, long time. This late 20's early 30's really beautiful girl I thought was looking at me all night and I finally got the chance to talk to her and we had a real nice time together. She was a local and lived closeby I walked her to her place as she had an early flight in the morning. I had tried to kiss her earlier in the night and got the turned cheek so I played it cool when we said our goodbyes but I had the feeling if she didn't have the early flight it may have been Game On. It was a nice and very romantic time with this one though. So went back to the club and my confidence was high wound up with some girl that was hot but drunk and crazy and she was kissing me one minute and slapping me the next. I am pretty sure she was angling for me to pay her to go home but I was too drunk at that point (probably 4 or 5 AM) and knew it would be a waste of money. Wound up going to the sea with some friends I met walking around I was the fifth wheel for two girls and two tourist guys. The pretty blonde girl I could tell was feeling me though. The girls stripped into their bra and panties to swim in the black sea. The blonde girl was looking so good her lingerie was completely see through. My inclination was to try and get her away from the guy she was already talking too but I am too nice of a guy so eventually I just left to go home as I had a flight to catch early afternoon. I need to go back and experience this city more as this was a Sunday night and I had the time of my life. I can only imagine what it is like on a Friday or Saturday.

I also, had similar experiences in Odessa, amazing nights, terrific people and great parties, but at the end of the night, 4-6 am, I would go home too drunk, out of cash, and empty handed. Just too far to travel too and to getting aid very difficult, even if you are willing to pay. Not sure why, but it is the case. Everything else is real great there.

Rulerk
02-15-19, 14:26
This post is valid through Summer 2019.

I am currently living in Odessa and have been for more than 10 years. I run a business consulting firm here as well as a small tourist agency, so, if you like, I can help with just about any aspect of your journey to Odessa or Ukraine (including finding apartments, hotels, tours or girls). I am also available to hang out and go skirt-chasing pretty much anytime since I work my own hours. I'm also hoping to get a website about girls set up this year (before summer if I'm lucky) so PM me for the link since we can't post links in the forum proper.

PM me for questions or contact info. I am not on the site very often unless I get an alert. Oftentimes, the forum alerts don't properly get delivered to my e-mail. If I don't respond within a few days, please PM me again and again so that I get the e-mail and am able to see the alert and can respond to you. I will respond 99% of the time if I get an alert, so keep trying.

RulerK.

Riina
02-15-19, 23:37
This post is valid through Summer 2019.

I am currently living in Odessa and have been for more than 10 years. I run a business consulting firm here as well as a small tourist agency, so, if you like, I can help with just about any aspect of your journey to Odessa or Ukraine (including finding apartments, hotels, tours or girls). I am also available to hang out and go skirt-chasing pretty much anytime since I work my own hours. I'm also hoping to get a website about girls set up this year (before summer if I'm lucky) so PM me for the link since we can't post links in the forum proper.

PM me for questions or contact info. I am not on the site very often unless I get an alert. Oftentimes, the forum alerts don't properly get delivered to my e-mail. If I don't respond within a few days, please PM me again and again so that I get the e-mail and am able to see the alert and can respond to you. I will respond 99% of the time if I get an alert, so keep trying.

RulerK.This sounds useful. I'm looking to immerse myself into Ukraine come spring. Why should I go to Odessa? Please share some insight, especially in comparison to Kiev.

DramaFree11
02-16-19, 01:19
This post is valid through Summer 2019.

I am currently living in Odessa and have been for more than 10 years. I run a business consulting firm here as well as a small tourist agency, so, if you like, I can help with just about any aspect of your journey to Odessa or Ukraine (including finding apartments, hotels, tours or girls). I am also available to hang out and go skirt-chasing pretty much anytime since I work my own hours. I'm also hoping to get a website about girls set up this year (before summer if I'm lucky) so PM me for the link since we can't post links in the forum proper.

PM me for questions or contact info. I am not on the site very often unless I get an alert. Oftentimes, the forum alerts don't properly get delivered to my e-mail. If I don't respond within a few days, please PM me again and again so that I get the e-mail and am able to see the alert and can respond to you. I will respond 99% of the time if I get an alert, so keep trying.

RulerK.Odessa, can be a cool place in the summer time, winter no way! You need to be very careful there, if you think there is a lot of Scams and Fake Profiles in Kiev, it is even worse in Odessa. Also, much more difficult to get laid, stick with Kiev!!

Hamboner
03-12-19, 13:40
Hi Mongers.

I am flying to Odessa on April 4th and will stay there 3 months. I am looking for pussy, love and possibly marriage.

I have called escorts in Odessa before and there was one last year that was extremely beautiful. I made the mistake thinking I could have a long term relationship with the Escort.

It was tough watching her child during the night while she was fucking other men at work. I wanted her to quit but she did it for the cash. In Ukraine the girls do what they have to.

In order to survive.

I agree with another post here that it is hard to get pussy in Odessa with all the tourists and scams. There are a lot of scammers there and criminals. Need to be careful if you are a tourist.

Paladium Disco is one place to avoid. If you read the bad reviews on Trip Advisor and others. Also many restaurants will overcharge you several hundred dollars. Never go to a restaurant of a local girl's choosing especially if it is the first or second date. They are set ups to scam you and get cash. Stay away from Selfie Restaurant, Cesar Restaurant. You will not get your money back from your credit card company!! I found out the hard way. They don't care.

If any mongers want to meet me there or have any connections let me know.

Cheers.

Hamboner.

Riina
03-12-19, 15:01
I am looking for pussy, love and possibly marriage.Ukraine is a land where people use each other. Keep it in the back of your mind and you might find success.

Hestendk
03-12-19, 15:43
Hi Mongers.

I am flying to Odessa on April 4th and will stay there 3 months. I am looking for pussy, love and possibly marriage.

Cheers.

Hamboner.In Odessa the chance for finding an real love or Marriage is very bad.

I would take another destination.

DramaFree11
03-12-19, 15:59
Hi Mongers.

I am flying to Odessa on April 4th and will stay there 3 months. I am looking for pussy, love and possibly marriage.

I have called escorts in Odessa before and there was one last year that was extremely beautiful. I made the mistake thinking I could have a long term relationship with the Escort.

It was tough watching her child during the night while she was fucking other men at work. I wanted her to quit but she did it for the cash. In Ukraine the girls do what they have to.

In order to survive.

I agree with another post here that it is hard to get pussy in Odessa with all the tourists and scams. There are a lot of scammers there and criminals. Need to be careful if you are a tourist..Very good advice. This also applies to Kiev, unfortunately some of the regulars choose to ignore or claim it does not exist. It happens on a daily basis, much more then is ever reported. Probably because of embarrassment, individuals do not share there stories.

Thank you, for the insightful and honest report. Newbies need to pay attention, it is a huge problem in Ukraine. This is the main reason I post, because omit this from there reports,.

TinyHippo
03-12-19, 16:51
Odessa is full of hot women in summer, but I agree that mongering is really tough if you do not speak Russian. If you look on Tinder, there are a few pros. I never had any luck contacting anyone from Mister-x. So many nice profiles, but nobody speaks English or answers SMS.

Timmy21
03-13-19, 18:52
Hi Mongers.

I am flying to Odessa on April 4th and will stay there 3 months. I am looking for pussy, love and possibly marriage.

I have called escorts in Odessa before and there was one last year that was extremely beautiful. I made the mistake thinking I could have a long term relationship with the Escort.

It was tough watching her child during the night while she was fucking other men at work. I wanted her to quit but she did it for the cash. In Ukraine the girls do what they have to.

If any mongers want to meet me there or have any connections let me know.

Cheers.

Hamboner.I spent some time in Odessa a few years ago and met with an escort who had a child, a real nice girl, short maybe 162,46 kgs, fake blond, she had a three year old daughter, spent a weekend together had a real good time. This is my advice, Odessa is good for meeting escorts, maybe the best city in Ukraine, as far as value, choice, attitude go, but Odessa is a very bad city for chatting up regular girls, you may have a rough time at it. The best city in Ukraine for chatting up girls, in my opinion is Kharkov. Girls in Kharkov I have found are extremely amenable to chatting with foreigners; if you can speak a little Russian, look and act like you are a man of means, Kharkov is the place to go. There are so many young attractive girls in Kharkov, if you want a wife or girlfriend try spending three months in Kharkov, it's much, much better than Odessa.

Hamboner
03-27-19, 00:36
I spent some time in Odessa a few years ago and met with an escort who had a child, a real nice girl, short maybe 162,46 kgs, fake blond, she had a three year old daughter, spent a weekend together had a real good time. This is my advice, Odessa is good for meeting escorts, maybe the best city in Ukraine, as far as value, choice, attitude go, but Odessa is a very bad city for chatting up regular girls, you may have a rough time at it. The best city in Ukraine for chatting up girls, in my opinion is Kharkov. Girls in Kharkov I have found are extremely amenable to chatting with foreigners; if you can speak a little Russian, look and act like you are a man of means, Kharkov is the place to go. There are so many young attractive girls in Kharkov, if you want a wife or girlfriend try spending three months in Kharkov, it's much, much better than Odessa.Hey You are exactly correct. My last hot Blonde Wife with big breasts was from Kharkov. I knew her for 3 years before we married in USA. Unfortunately, she was an alcoholic and really liked to show her tits and ass off to many men. She ended up fucking another man only 10 days after I married her. He got her addicted to Meth and Heroin. Her pussy and ass was his. She forgot me really quick. I had some red flags but ignored them. She was definitely a hot piece of ass but a Party Girl and ***** Ass Cheating piece of Shit. I have been to Dnep, Kharkiv, Kiev and Odessa. I am trying to get some girls to maybe travel to meet me in Odessa. The Odessa girls are mostly just using guys to get money. I am not saying all of them are this way but like you said some other cities in Ukraine are most likely better areas to find a lifetime partner. Personally, I need a sexy hot piece of ass to fuck for the rest of my life without cheating. I want to be faithful to her and expect the same from her. JW.

Hamboner
03-27-19, 00:42
Odessa is full of hot women in summer, but I agree that mongering is really tough if you do not speak Russian. If you look on Tinder, there are a few pros. I never had any luck contacting anyone from Mister-x. So many nice profiles, but nobody speaks English or answers SMS.Yes I agree. I tried Mamba to connect but the girls there are basically escort too. At least the few who are willing to meet foreigners to fuck. You might as well save yourself the trouble and just call a good Escort company if you want to have sex. The Language barrier can be a problem. But I think if the girl is really into you, she will be willing to try Google translate with voice to have a date with you. If you find a girl who always want to use expensive interpreters I would be very careful because she might be working with the interpreter to get as much cash as she can out of you and dash. Like I said before be very careful about going to any restaurants that the girl recommends especially on the first date. In my experience they are criminal rip offs to get money from you.

DramaFree11
03-27-19, 02:09
Yes I agree. I tried Mamba to connect but the girls there are basically escort too. At least the few who are willing to meet foreigners to fuck. You might as well save yourself the trouble and just call a good Escort company if you want to have sex. The Language barrier can be a problem. But I think if the girl is really into you, she will be willing to try Google translate with voice to have a date with you. If you find a girl who always want to use expensive interpreters I would be very careful because she might be working with the interpreter to get as much cash as she can out of you and dash. Like I said before be very careful about going to any restaurants that the girl recommends especially on the first date. In my experience they are criminal rip offs to get money from you.Excellent advice. My Ex-girlfriend was one of those interpreters in Kiev. Complete Scam. Thank you, for your story and advice.

GDreams
03-27-19, 10:37
Excellent advice. My Ex-girlfriend was one of those interpreters in Kiev. Complete Scam. Thank you, for your story and advice.Not really, the correct advice if you don't have any Russian skills is select those with English speaking skills. Its not so hard, its listed on their profiles.

DramaFree11
03-28-19, 02:34
Not really, the correct advice if you don't have any Russian skills is select those with English speaking skills. Its not so hard, its listed on their profiles.Makes no difference if they can speak English or Russian, there are scams all over the place in Odessa and Kiev. You need to be real careful if you do no know the girl or Rest, sorry this is the truth.

GDreams
03-28-19, 07:33
Makes no difference if they can speak English or Russian, there are scams all over the place in Odessa and Kiev. You need to be real careful if you do no know the girl or Rest, sorry this is the truth.I first went to the Ukraine when I was 44 and was well overweight and never had trouble pulling women and very attractive ones at that. I haven't been there for 8 years as I was married and have other priorities but its unless you are very gullible or just not skilled it is not really that difficult as you make out. If you don't like the place just move on.

Sofiy
05-03-19, 15:15
Can any one please guide.

Is this website really reliable.

https://relaxportal.biz/eng/

Means are girls real or its just an agency.It's like craigslist for escorts, you have a mix of everything. I use it to call (speak Russian) or text with Viber and Google Translate to ask if you can go to them.

It's the only way I found to find salons / brothels. If someone knows of another way, please share.

Also, don't pay more than 1,200 UAH for an hour for sex, and don't pay more than 650 an hour for erotic massage.

Alex8585
05-15-19, 01:19
Hey You are exactly correct. My last hot Blonde Wife with big breasts was from Kharkov. I knew her for 3 years before we married in USA. Unfortunately, she was an alcoholic and really liked to show her tits and ass off to many men. She ended up fucking another man only 10 days after I married her.... Personally, I need a sexy hot piece of ass to fuck for the rest of my life without cheating. I want to be faithful to her and expect the same from her. JW.I have a bridge to sell you! Joke a side, I think it is very big mistake to have marriage with a lady who is not your match. She'd dump you first chance she will get. Plus, marriage is not about fucking some hot piece of ass for the rest of your life. You should just keep calling escorts whenever you get horny.

ThinAir
06-02-19, 14:02
Hey fellas,

Highly thinking of going to Odessa in mid July. Read thru 4-5 pages, seems like relaxportal might be place to go as far as internet goes. Of course tinder might be decent option, spoofed location with fake profile, will see the results in next few days. Just doing homework in advance.

Are hotels girl friendly? Should I book a room for two just in case? By the way, any other websites, saw misterx too, anything else apart of these 2 websites. P.S. I don't speak Russian apart from few words, but of course there is google translate.

TinyHippo
06-03-19, 14:34
Hey fellas,

Highly thinking of going to Odessa in mid July. Read thru 4-5 pages, seems like relaxportal might be place to go as far as internet goes. Of course tinder might be decent option, spoofed location with fake profile, will see the results in next few days. Just doing homework in advance.

Are hotels girl friendly? Should I book a room for two just in case? By the way, any other websites, saw misterx too, anything else apart of these 2 websites. P.S. I don't speak Russian apart from few words, but of course there is google translate.Relax portal is 99% fake. Look up Mister X for Odessa. It is only 80% fake. Good luck.

DramaFree11
06-04-19, 00:15
Relax portal is 99% fake. Look up Mister X for Odessa. It is only 80% fake. Good luck.Perfect, quote!

GDreams
06-04-19, 06:27
Hey fellas,

Highly thinking of going to Odessa in mid July. Read thru 4-5 pages, seems like relaxportal might be place to go as far as internet goes. Of course tinder might be decent option, spoofed location with fake profile, will see the results in next few days. Just doing homework in advance.

Are hotels girl friendly? Should I book a room for two just in case? By the way, any other websites, saw misterx too, anything else apart of these 2 websites. P.S. I don't speak Russian apart from few words, but of course there is google translate.Get an apartment I prefer central around Deribasovskaya st as that is where the restaurants are. If you are into clubbing then go for something near Arkadia. Irrespective Arkadia is worth a visit or two for the nightlife and all the hot young girls.

ReDroo
06-04-19, 17:52
Get an apartment I prefer central around Deribasovskaya st as that is where the restaurants are. If you are into clubbing then go for something near Arkadia. Irrespective Arkadia is worth a visit or two for the nightlife and all the hot young girls.I have spent the last 20 summers in Odessa.

When I was younger and really on the chase, I stayed in the centre usually one block off Deribasovskaya. There is so much more variety in town in terms of cafes, restaurants, walks in the parks, amusement park with rides, shopping, and easy transport options. The movies, arts like the infamous Ballet, and beaches just a short taxi ride (or decent walk, Lazeron) away. Strip Clubs, Massages, and Houses of poor / fake advertising, and even street walkers if you had not an interest already secreted in your apartment. TBadoo and Tinder girls like to meet there, usually at Kompt, or even StaekHouse if they're pushing their luck. HHre are also legitimate Introduction Agencies, where you can walk in, meet the owner, and / or managers and pay to date their data base of women willing to date.

As I got older and couldn't be bothered so much in the P4P chase, I moved out to a 2 bedroom apartment in Arcadia owned by an ex-girlfriend of mine. After 5 years of doing the dating / chasing thing I discovered that girls from earlier years would contact me around the time they thought I might be arriving, and basically drop hints, or even just flat out invite themselves to come share with me for a weeks holiday. So the 20 yr old agency gameplayers, strippers, are now 30 ys, divorced and sick and tired of grief and games themselves. So much easier on all involved.

I am at this stage of life happy to spend all day beside the pool in Ibiza, Itaka, Manta etc with my girls, and watch the rich Turks and Italians try so hard to pick up "princesses" who will only play 4 pay. Those of you that have experienced Ibiza Night Club and Daytime Beach Club will know what I am speaking about.

Doing things back to front like this means transport is usually much easier to organise into town early evening, and to return later. At night Taxis in Akardia are pure sharks, and booking an Uber will take you forever and involve surge pricing.

Prices are very high, and I particularly hate this trend of "table / cabana / deck chair pricing" that is load with pre-drinks / food. Your minimum spend is WAYYYYYY Up, and rest assured your date will order the most expensive food and drinks, and then probably either refuse to come home with you. Or start mentioning about "presents" of hundreds of Euro.

I don't want to put any newbies off, I just want you to know you will pay heavily to enjoy the company of some of the worlds most beautiful women. Some of whom are worth knowing. Either right away. Or 5-10 years later when they then search you out as one of the few nice guys they ever met during their gaming years.

ReDroo
06-04-19, 18:02
Hey fellas,

Highly thinking of going to Odessa in mid July. Read thru 4-5 pages, seems like relaxportal might be place to go as far as internet goes. Of course tinder might be decent option, spoofed location with fake profile, will see the results in next few days. Just doing homework in advance.

Are hotels girl friendly? Should I book a room for two just in case? By the way, any other websites, saw misterx too, anything else apart of these 2 websites. P.S. I don't speak Russian apart from few words, but of course there is google translate.You'll be fine with English and google translate on your phone. Lean Cyrillic alphabet, is dead easy, and then you can flow the street signs, understand restaurant names etc.

Websites for girls are almost always "bait and switch". The photo was blond, you'll get blonde; she was tall, you might get medium; she was 20, you might get 35. You get the picture.

If you meet them on the street then you can send them away without knowing your apartment number, or invite them in if you don't mind the look of the young lady that turns up. If you are accepting, friendly and kind you might find she stays a little longer, and "forgets" to charge you for some of the extras. You might even strike up a friendship of sorts where she gives you her direct number.

ReDroo
06-04-19, 18:07
I'll be heading back for my yearly 2nd summer, escaping from southern winters July, August, September.

If anyone from the site will be in town feel free to send me a private message, we might be able to meet up for a beer, coffee, night out etc.

Cheers, roo.

ShawMan74
06-04-19, 20:22
I have spent the last 20 summers in Odessa.

When I was younger and really on the chase, I stayed in the centre usually one block off Deribasovskaya. There is so much more variety in town in terms of cafes, restaurants, walks in the parks, amusement park with rides, shopping, and easy transport options. The movies, arts like the infamous Ballet, and beaches just a short taxi ride (or decent walk, Lazeron) away. Strip Clubs, Massages, and Houses of poor / fake advertising, and even street walkers if you had not an interest already secreted in your apartment. TBadoo and Tinder girls like to meet there, usually at Kompt, or even StaekHouse if they're pushing their luck. HHre are also legitimate Introduction Agencies, where you can walk in, meet the owner, and / or managers and pay to date their data base of women willing to date.

As I got older and couldn't be bothered so much in the P4P chase, I moved out to a 2 bedroom apartment in Arcadia owned by an ex-girlfriend of mine. After 5 years of doing the dating / chasing thing I discovered that girls from earlier years would contact me around the time they thought I might be arriving, and basically drop hints, or even just flat out invite themselves to come share with me for a weeks holiday. So the 20 yr old agency gameplayers, strippers, are now 30 ys, divorced and sick and tired of grief and games themselves. So much easier on all involved.

I am at this stage of life happy to spend all day beside the pool in Ibiza, Itaka, Manta etc with my girls, and watch the rich Turks and Italians try so hard to pick up "princesses" who will only play 4 pay. Those of you that have experienced Ibiza Night Club and Daytime Beach Club will know what I am speaking about.

Doing things back to front like this means transport is usually much easier to organise into town early evening, and to return later. At night Taxis in Akardia are pure sharks, and booking an Uber will take you forever and involve surge pricing.

Prices are very high, and I particularly hate this trend of "table / cabana / deck chair pricing" that is load with pre-drinks / food. Your minimum spend is WAYYYYYY Up, and rest assured your date will order the most expensive food and drinks, and then probably either refuse to come home with you. Or start mentioning about "presents" of hundreds of Euro.

I don't want to put any newbies off, I just want you to know you will pay heavily to enjoy the company of some of the worlds most beautiful women. Some of whom are worth knowing. Either right away. Or 5-10 years later when they then search you out as one of the few nice guys they ever met during their gaming years.Thank you so much for this post. Now I know to stay away from odessa (and warsaw) and just focus my precious 2 months on Kiev, belgrade, and bucharest. Odessa and warsaw both sound like the functional equivalent of Cali in Colombia. It wasnt bad, but there simply isn't any talent there. Its really medellin or bust. To stretch this comparative south american analogy even further, its really only rio, paulo, medellin, or bust. In other words, the talent is concentrating to fewer places. And only getting moreso that way (which makes sense in a number of ways).

I'm sure the younger, fitter, richer, smarter, more talented, and better looking members of this forum will staunchly disagree with me and that's ok, god bless 'them!

DramaFree11
06-04-19, 21:29
Thank you so much for this post. Now I know to stay away from odessa (and warsaw) and just focus my precious 2 months on Kiev, belgrade, and bucharest. Odessa and warsaw both sound like the functional equivalent of Cali in Colombia. It wasnt bad, but there simply isn't any talent there. Its really medellin or bust. To stretch this comparative south american analogy even further, its really only rio, paulo, medellin, or bust. In other words, the talent is concentrating to fewer places. And only getting moreso that way (which makes sense in a number of ways).

I'm sure the younger, fitter, richer, smarter, more talented, and better looking members of this forum will staunchly disagree with me and that's ok, god bless 'them!Agree, but not sure about Rio, just was not that great, all the other places you listed are good.

If you are going to Ukraine July / August, Kiev will not be good Odessa is a better choice. I am not a fan of either, but Kiev will be empty minus the Sex Tourists.

Travv
07-01-19, 18:55
If you are going to marry one of these pay 4 play girls, then take basic precautions to avoid being cashed out in a divorce by a golddigger. Remember, she is likely marrying your wallet, not you! You will only figure this out once you start making the lifetime alimony payments in California or Florida! (See the Divorcecorp Youtube video for the nightmare divorce info) There is no divorce in the Philippines, so get residency in the Philippines and move her there. As long as you do not take her to the land of divorce lawyers (USA or any country that speaks English) you are likely safe from huge alimony and child support payments! Option 2, keep her in a country not run by feminist man haters. Mexico or Arab countries come to mind. In Iran, I've heard men get the kids in the divorce and I imagine Saudi Arabia is much the same. .


I have a bridge to sell you! Joke a side, I think it is very big mistake to have marriage with a lady who is not your match. She'd dump you first chance she will get. Plus, marriage is not about fucking some hot piece of ass for the rest of your life. You should just keep calling escorts whenever you get horny.

Walence31
11-03-19, 20:32
Hello,

This is my first time go Odessa is very cold.

Arcadia night club is not open very boring this week.

I use outcall 1000 1300 go the store 1200 1500 go your room I go 10 12 store by viber.

I see a bit street girl in Derybasivska Street maybe 4 5 person.

I don't like Middle Eastern beggar they follow me three hour is very crazy. That time I want hit them.

I go strip club is very good I think very cheap Strip club Office. 500 uah Ticket for Low elimination.

Have very good time is Odessa I will come back next July.

Timmy21
11-04-19, 01:44
Hello,

This is my first time go Odessa is very cold.

Arcadia night club is not open very boring this week.

I use outcall 1000 1300 go the store 1200 1500 go your room I go 10 12 store by viber.

I see a bit street girl in Derybasivska Street maybe 4 5 person.

I don't like Middle Eastern beggar they follow me three hour is very crazy. That time I want hit them.

I go strip club is very good I think very cheap Strip club Office. 500 uah Ticket for Low elimination.

Have very good time is Odessa I will come back next July.I've visited Odessa on five occasions, I was just there this past Aug / Sept for 17 days, April will be very pleasant, weather wise, a good time to visit, I always stay in the old center, I've never stayed nor do I visit Arcadia, I find that a good place to rent a flat is maybe 1 K or so S / W of the Street, kind of along yl. Probrazhenska, this area has many 24 hour mini marts, 24 hour coffee cafes, as well as one large supermarket, what is also great to see is that the customer service is exceptional at these places. You'll discover many Middle Eastern people who live in Odessa full time, as far as I am concerned they are no problem at all. There are many strip-clubs in the old center, not just Office, I would advise not to visit any strip club in Odessa, once they discover you're a foreigner, there's a good possibility of up-selling. As far as escorts I find Odessa to be one of the top cities in Ukraine, for what I like to do, which is call an escort and have her come to me, I usually chose girls 1,500 and above, for the most part they have a pleasant attitude, young and attractive, naturally and genuinely excited to be with you. My last visit to Odessa I was extremely impressed the many beautiful girls (mainly university students) I noticed in coffee cafes, waiting at bus stops, or wherever. A good resource for escorts is Mister, or even Ukrgo.

Sorbonne
08-10-20, 04:07
Does anybody know how badly Odesa beaches are infested with seaweed this summer? One hotel tells me it was bad last year, but not this year, and another hotel tells me it was only bad in July when it was hottest. I'm looking into going there in early September. Not at Arcadia but a bit more south to Zatoka.

PhotoSlider
08-10-20, 10:44
Does anybody know how badly Odesa beaches are infested with seaweed this summer? One hotel tells me it was bad last year, but not this year, and another hotel tells me it was only bad in July when it was hottest. I'm looking into going there in early September. Not at Arcadia but a bit more south to Zatoka.Asked one of the Kiev girls, who is in Odessa now, - no response so far.

Search in Russian shows that Zatoka is more affected by seaweed, and consequently by microbial / bacteria. Not recommended:

https://news.liga.net/society/news/v-odesse-mojno-kupatsya-na-vseh-plyajah-v-zatoke---net

https://otzovik.com/review_2401270.html

The only exception is sand spit, where water is not as deep, but cleaner.

https://rebenok.by/articles/woman/leisure/23198-zatoka-bez-vodoroslei---eto-vozmozhno.html

Sorbonne
08-10-20, 21:48
Asked one of the Kiev girls, who is in Odessa now, - no response so far.

Search in Russian shows that Zatoka is more affected by seaweed, and consequently by microbial / bacteria. Not recommended:

https://news.liga.net/society/news/v-odesse-mojno-kupatsya-na-vseh-plyajah-v-zatoke---net

https://otzovik.com/review_2401270.html

The only exception is sand spit, where water is not as deep, but cleaner.

https://rebenok.by/articles/woman/leisure/23198-zatoka-bez-vodoroslei---eto-vozmozhno.html

I'm assuming that sand spit is the thin stretch of land north-east of Zatoka, but there are few hotels there.

I didn't want the crowd of Arkadia, but the whole area sounds like a bad idea. Maybe I should once again stick to hotels with swimming pools in Kiev. Corona is bad enough. I don't need bacteria / algae on top, even though I believe humans evolved from algae.

I also thought about Sunny Beach in Bulgaria, but the thing is that once I leave Ukraine, I can't come back for 3 months.

Thanks again.

Sorbonne
08-11-20, 09:43
Actually, swimming pools at resort hotels in Kiev don't sounds good to me, either, due to the possibility of virus.

So I'm not sure what to do with my regular.

Maybe I'll stick to a resort hotel with a swimming pool in my city with much fewer infections.

PhotoSlider
08-14-20, 00:18
Actually, swimming pools at resort hotels in Kiev don't sounds good to me, either, due to the possibility of virus.

So I'm not sure what to do with my regular.

Maybe I'll stick to a resort hotel with a swimming pool in my city with much fewer infections.About a week ago there was a confirmed case of Anthrax in Odessa region. Probably far away enough to be truly concerned.

My favorite on the Black Sea is September, - so called Velvet Season "Barkhatnyi Sezon". Fewer people, not as hot.

Not sure though if kids go back to school, even remotely this year.

Misterxxx
08-23-20, 08:56
Does anybody know how badly Odesa beaches are infested with seaweed this summer? One hotel tells me it was bad last year, but not this year, and another hotel tells me it was only bad in July when it was hottest. I'm looking into going there in early September. Not at Arcadia but a bit more south to Zatoka.I'm always in Odessa in the summer. For many years. With the seaweed, things get worse every year. In the past six years, the number of Odessa tourists has doubled. That will be a reason for it.

There is seaweed in Odessa and Zatoka. Bugaz / Zatoka is not interesting in autumn. It is more the place for families, even in summer. Not for men traveling alone. In summer I prefer Koblevo (if you really want to leave Odessa). Disco Brazil. Where the PJ women still dance naked. Just like it used to be everywhere (10 years ago).

Reiner Otto
08-23-20, 10:51
I'm always in Odessa in the summer. For many years. How is Odessa compared to Kiev middle of September and later? I am considering to come back to UA after 6 years.

Kater100
08-23-20, 13:22
In summer I prefer Koblevo (if you really want to leave Odessa). Disco Brazil. Where the PJ women still dance naked. Just like it used to be everywhere (10 years ago).That looks really good in the photos. Thanks for the tip! Are there any more in the area?

Do the women let you take them to the apartment / hotel? I'm always unsure about the English level around here.

Sorbonne
08-23-20, 18:26
I'm always in Odessa in the summer. For many years. With the seaweed, things get worse every year. In the past six years, the number of Odessa tourists has doubled. That will be a reason for it.

There is seaweed in Odessa and Zatoka. Bugaz / Zatoka is not interesting in autumn. It is more the place for families, even in summer. Not for men traveling alone. In summer I prefer Koblevo (if you really want to leave Odessa). Disco Brazil. Where the PJ women still dance naked. Just like it used to be everywhere (10 years ago).

Thanks for the info. But you're saying that even in Koblevo the situation with seaweed is bad, right?

https://reachinitiative.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=b8ea3d22c51246528abb47ef94f20edb

According to this map, the south of Odesa is in Orange, and Koblevo area is on the borderline between Yellow and Greene.

I doubt Disco Brazil is as bustling as in the photos this summer.

BTW, I was not thinking of going there solo.

Lucky Nuts
10-14-20, 10:36
I'm in Odesa and have done zero research on the game here. Just came down for few nights to see the city on a touristy visit. Anyone in town the knows the scene? Or wants to PM me or post where to look.

Wouldn't mind to check it out but if not that's ok I'll just enjoy the quiet before heading back up to Kyiv fun.

Berrys66
10-14-20, 15:06
I'm in Odesa and have done zero research on the game here. Just came down for few nights to see the city on a touristy visit. Anyone in town the knows the scene? Or wants to PM me or post where to look.

Wouldn't mind to check it out but if not that's ok I'll just enjoy the quiet before heading back up to Kyiv fun.Watch out for the scammer menus in restaurants one for locals and 1 for gullible victims which has higher prices. You get taken there by women who get a cut.

See on trustpilot.

Lucky Nuts
10-14-20, 20:52
Watch out for the scammer menus in restaurants one for locals and 1 for gullible victims which has higher prices. You get taken there by women who get a cut.

See on trustpilot.Thanks for the heads up man. This exact thing happened to me in Havana. I met a really hot chica fresh 18 year old and asked her to go out for a beer and she agreed. Then I asked her to pick a place for dinner and I followed about 50 paces behind her due to police isssues there. After we sat down and looked at the menu I asked to speak to the manager because there we no prices. He came over and said you pick one item from each catagory and it's only 35 cuc per person. I got up and said "not eating here" LOL. He quickly stopped me and said he would give a special price of half that 17.50 each which was still a lot but we stayed and had an awesome meal experience. After dinner she left to take a bunch of the food home to her Mom and I thought I'd never see her again. A half hour late of our agreed time she finally knocked on my door and it was great sex. I saw her several more times after that visit until she was 21 and no longer "a chica really hot fresh 18 year old" LOL. She tried setting me up with other girls but it never worked out. Damn I must be getting old to think back to those times LOL.

Edit: Damn Berry don't I recall now you are way more experienced in Cuba than me? I didn't really look at who sent the message until after I wrote the reply.

DramaFree11
10-16-20, 03:34
Watch out for the scammer menus in restaurants one for locals and 1 for gullible victims which has higher prices. You get taken there by women who get a cut.

See on trustpilot.Yes, very common in Odessa and Kiev. Guys need to be real careful. They got me once real good, never again.

Stevie69
11-21-20, 23:21
Just eat by yourself at McDonald's and any place in which there is a visible menu. Remember you are there for the girls, not as a culinary critic. The girl can buy her own food with the money you pay her. Your intimate pleasure is her business, but her culinary pleasure is none of your business.


Yes, very common in Odessa and Kiev. Guys need to be real careful. They got me once real good, never again.

Reiner Otto
11-29-20, 17:09
Being an oldtimer to UA, I consider a visit again, to escape German lockdown.

Will the weekend lockdown in Odessa be cancelled end of November?

Sean EZ
12-21-20, 22:09
Being an oldtimer to UA, I consider a visit again, to escape German lockdown.

Will the weekend lockdown in Odessa be cancelled end of November?When the weekend lockdown was announced, Odessa mayor told them to piss off. Nothing was shutdown or locked down in Odessa as a consequence.

Rob Hay
01-06-21, 07:03
Thank you so much for this post. Now I know to stay away from odessa (and warsaw) and just focus my precious 2 months on Kiev, belgrade, and bucharest. Odessa and warsaw both sound like the functional equivalent of Cali in Colombia. It wasnt bad, but there simply isn't any talent there. Its really medellin or bust. To stretch this comparative south american analogy even further, its really only rio, paulo, medellin, or bust. In other words, the talent is concentrating to fewer places. And only getting moreso that way (which makes sense in a number of ways).

I'm sure the younger, fitter, richer, smarter, more talented, and better looking members of this forum will staunchly disagree with me and that's ok, god bless 'them!Having spent so much time in Cali learning spanish / salsa I know what you mean. Such a great city but got to search so hard to find the talent of Medellin. Odessa is the same compared to Kiev, most of the hot vacationing girls in Odessa are living in Kiev anyways. But that said Odessa is a really pleasant place to stay.

ReDroo
01-11-21, 16:49
Having spent so much time in Cali learning spanish / salsa I know what you mean. Such a great city but got to search so hard to find the talent of Medellin. Odessa is the same compared to Kiev, most of the hot vacationing girls in Odessa are living in Kiev anyways. But that said Odessa is a really pleasant place to stay.I've been coming to Odessa for 20 years now, at least 3 months each year.

I've had time to witness all change from the wild west; where in The Arkardia Clubs of 1999 girls would be in competitions putting condoms on random men with their teeth to win some free drinks, through to the classy area it is today.

It's certainly got more difficult to find a lover by yourself without Russian language skills, but always doable, especially if you have a table booked at Ibiza You aging as your targets stay the same ages doesn't help make it any easier to tell the truth also. But hey, none of us can beat aging.

I've never been a fan of salons. So my initial months were spent getting the lay of the land, and just asking random girls out for date in the clubs and cafes, as well as meeting lots of agency girls. Odessa Agencies do a lot of bait and switch. Like others I meet the taxi outside and decide if the package is close enough to the order to proceed.

You could say I wasted those first 2 years, by refusing to believe the "marriage agencies" were scams designed to separate men from their money, all be it with gorgeous company. I dated like crazy, and was lucky enough to have many of those girls (and even the odd translator) think I was a decent enough guy to then warn me against spending money in this environment. My university student wingman / translator eventually became my lover not withstanding a significant age gap. She then proceeded to really fill me in on every part of the agencies. A surprising amount of the "Professional Daters" in Odessa, understanding I was staying for months and not just a week, then made an effort to give me their phone numbers and would date with me outside the system. Many told me point blank at that time they wanted to marry a young fit local guy and have kids, not to move overseas. I've stayed in touch with as many as possible, Birthdays, Christmas etc. And this is where being nice to people can pay off. Now I discover I have a long game in play where these young professional daters of 10 -15 years ago, now find themselves divorced, single moms and remember the older Western guy that treated them well, with respect and they felt safe with. Bingo. My email blows up every May with girls I already know asking if I will be coming to spend the season in Odessa as usual, because they're interested to spend time together. Happy Days, as I honestly can not be interested in the chase anymore. As I've got older I have found I really need a mental connection to function at my best sexually. I need the full GFE, need to feel the girl actually wants to be with me. The lower end practitioners of the craft leave me cold with their lack of warmth and affection. The whole no kissing thing is a big turn off for me, as is refusing BBBJ and Dinner at the why, because I like a lot of oral stimulation, both giving and receiving. 2020 brought a young friend back into my life who is 29. She had just finished a 4 year relationship with a young German guy. Having previously told me I was too old for her, and she had put some effort into introducing me to her older girlfriends, so I did not expect any physical relationship. Well I was wrong, and she was the best lover I have ever had. In fact she expanded some of my boundaries. We managed 2 wonderful trips together, in Thailand before the lockdown and she came to visit me in Dubai during it. As expected of a young girl still wanting to be married and have a child, I was a safe, fun, but temporary diversion and she has now found an young, fit opportunity she is exploring. There are no hard feelings involved, and I am sure we will remain good friends into the future. A new situation is developing where the friend of a girl I was pursuing a few years ago has written to me asking if I am interested in a relationship with her. She is more age appropriate (10 yr gap rather than the usual 20-30) but still in very fine form. In a few years her son will making his own life and she would be free to travel with me. I made the mistake of travelling back to Australia in Oct, where I did my 14 days compulsory Quarantine Detention guarded by the Police at a 5* Hotel. Now all Australian Citizens are now banned from leaving (without a special exemption) so it might be a while until I can get back to crank it up in person rather than video chats and Viber.

Desin
01-11-21, 20:22
Thank you for that, DeDroo.

I shall do my very best to follow your footsteps. (except not in Odessa).

Sorbonne
01-11-21, 22:00
I've been coming to Odessa for 20 years now, at least 3 months each year.

I've had time to witness all change from the wild west; where in The Arkardia Clubs of 1999 girls would be in competitions putting condoms on random men with their teeth to win some free drinks, through to the classy area it is today.

It's certainly got more difficult to find a lover by yourself without Russian language skills, but always doable, especially if you have a table booked at Ibiza You aging as your targets stay the same ages doesn't help make it any easier to tell the truth also. But hey, none of us can beat aging.

I've never been a fan of salons. So my initial months were spent getting the lay of the land, and just asking random girls out for date in the clubs and cafes, as well as meeting lots of agency girls. Odessa Agencies do a lot of bait and switch. Like others I meet the taxi outside and decide if the package is close enough to the order to proceed.

You could say I wasted those first 2 years, by refusing to believe the "marriage agencies" were scams designed to separate men from their money, all be it with gorgeous company. I dated like crazy, and was lucky enough to have many of those girls (and even the odd translator) think I was a decent enough guy to then warn me against spending money in this environment. My university student wingman / translator eventually became my lover not withstanding a significant age gap. She then proceeded to really fill me in on every part of the agencies. A surprising amount of the "Professional Daters" in Odessa, understanding I was staying for months and not just a week, then made an effort to give me their phone numbers and would date with me outside the system. Many told me point blank at that time they wanted to marry a young fit local guy and have kids, not to move overseas. I've stayed in touch with as many as possible, Birthdays, Christmas etc. And this is where being nice to people can pay off. Now I discover I have a long game in play where these young professional daters of 10 -15 years ago, now find themselves divorced, single moms and remember the older Western guy that treated them well, with respect and they felt safe with. Bingo. My email blows up every May with girls I already know asking if I will be coming to spend the season in Odessa as usual, because they're interested to spend time together. Happy Days, as I honestly can not be interested in the chase anymore. As I've got older I have found I really need a mental connection to function at my best sexually. I need the full GFE, need to feel the girl actually wants to be with me. The lower end practitioners of the craft leave me cold with their lack of warmth and affection. The whole no kissing thing is a big turn off for me, as is refusing BBBJ and Dinner at the why, because I like a lot of oral stimulation, both giving and receiving. 2020 brought a young friend back into my life who is 29. She had just finished a 4 year relationship with a young German guy. Having previously told me I was too old for her, and she had put some effort into introducing me to her older girlfriends, so I did not expect any physical relationship. Well I was wrong, and she was the best lover I have ever had. In fact she expanded some of my boundaries. We managed 2 wonderful trips together, in Thailand before the lockdown and she came to visit me in Dubai during it. As expected of a young girl still wanting to be married and have a child, I was a safe, fun, but temporary diversion and she has now found an young, fit opportunity she is exploring. There are no hard feelings involved, and I am sure we will remain good friends into the future. A new situation is developing where the friend of a girl I was pursuing a few years ago has written to me asking if I am interested in a relationship with her. She is more age appropriate (10 yr gap rather than the usual 20-30) but still in very fine form. In a few years her son will making his own life and she would be free to travel with me. I made the mistake of travelling back to Australia in Oct, where I did my 14 days compulsory Quarantine Detention guarded by the Police at a 5* Hotel. Now all Australian Citizens are now banned from leaving (without a special exemption) so it might be a while until I can get back to crank it up in person rather than video chats and Viber.You have been coming to Odessa for 3 months in summer for 20 years from Australia? You must love it there!

Well, thanks for this thought-provoking post.

Rob Hay
01-12-21, 05:54
What a tale. Feels like me in 20,25 years. As I read it I wistfully thought of my past 10,15 years of travel to Ukraine (and many other countries) and felt, if can be honest a ting of sadness also. Wondering of all the girls met and left was not one of them sufficient to move forward with or what exactly am I looking for other than a momentary good time. Like Alfie at the end of this movie wondering what this is all about and do we need to do 30+ years to figure out what we what.

Can this person (him, me, anyone) really be that happy. But then I wake up and snap back to reality. Onto the next tinder date I'm meeting tonight. I have to slap myself every time I get too deep in thought.

YummyPL
01-12-21, 19:06
You have been coming to Odessa for 3 months in summer for 20 years from Australia? You must love it there!

Well, thanks for this thought-provoking post.Well, it is winter in Australia when it is Summer here. Seems that Odessa is not a bad place to go.

IndusMint
01-23-21, 12:30
Great activities in odessa at present, pm for contacts.

Ringudor
01-23-21, 14:24
Great activities in odessa at present, pm for contacts.What if you write about those activities here and everybody knows about them?

Kater100
01-24-21, 18:31
What if you write about those activities here and everybody knows about them?Agree. Otherwise he can save himself such a comment. In my opinion self-importance or he wants to sell some number.

PhotoSlider
02-05-21, 04:48
I know at least 3 gentlemen that visited Ukraine in 2020 and 2021 with solid degree of success. They shared their wonderful stories mostly in private. Doctor ReDroo however, IMHO deserves an honor of being nominated here on Forum. What a wonderful example of high IQ literature! Humble, yet proud, respectful, intelligent and informative report.

Superb quality content.


I've been coming to Odessa for 20 years now, at least 3 months each year.

I've had time to witness all change from the wild west; where in The Arkardia Clubs of 1999 girls would be in competitions putting condoms on random men with their teeth to win some free drinks, through to the classy area it is today.

...snip...

so it might be a while until I can get back to crank it up in person rather than video chats and Viber.

WonderfulLife
03-14-21, 05:00
Since everywhere in the world is closed came finally to Odessa to find out how they try to rip you off.

I read about it a lot but wanted to see it myself.

First of all I must say most the girls in Odessa are mostly 8-10/10 on my beauty scale. Lots of make up and well dressed up to go out.

You will find them in the weekends in all bars of city center: I tried Amsterdam (hotel / restaurant) and central bar both places with good crowd and a few w / g coming in after midnight.

I also tried disco Minesterium which is open on Friday Saturday and Sunday. Young people: if you are of that age group its fun.

For calling taxis I used uber and bolt with the free internet at the airport. Simcards available in all telecom shops. Trip to city shouldn't cost more than 200 uah. 30 uah taxi will charge for entering airport zone.

The big scam I got 2 nights in a row is coming from tinder girls: they are inviting you to a disco north of the city called stereo disco.

Address: Dobrovol's'koho Ave, Odesa, Odessa Oblast, 65000.

Just google it to read other people's comments.

What happened to me is that I got in contact through tinder with some nice girl and she is proposing to meet her friend in a disco (without telling the name) and we went halfway and I smelled the scam we returned dropping girl at her home.

Second time I finished partying and another girl proposed me again from tinder to go to a disco saying her newly met friend is waiting for us in the taxi. Same story but this time I want till the door of the place to see it myself. The girl even paid for the taxi. And the end it refused to enter and took the taxi back to city center.

At the end of the story good ending the taxi driver (not uber or bolt but one with taxi sign) gave me some numbers of pro-girls.

Take care guys!

DramaFree11
03-14-21, 20:18
Since everywhere in the world is closed came finally to Odessa to find out how they try to rip you off.

I read about it a lot but wanted to see it myself.

First of all I must say most the girls in Odessa are mostly 8-10/10 on my beauty scale. Lots of make up and well dressed up to go out.

You will find them in the weekends in all bars of city center: I tried Amsterdam (hotel / restaurant) and central bar both places with good crowd and a few w / g coming in after midnight.

I also tried disco Minesterium which is open on Friday Saturday and Sunday. Young people: if you are of that age group its fun.I have been saying this for years, but you guys just think I am making this stuff up. Odessa is even worse then a Kiev for scams and that is hard to do. Odessa is a cool place, but just like Kiev there is just too many scams, both places should be avoided.

GDreams
03-15-21, 02:19
I have been saying this for years, but you guys just think I am making this stuff up. Odessa is even worse then a Kiev for scams and that is hard to do. Odessa is a cool place, but just like Kiev there is just too many scams, both places should be avoided.Odessa in the summer is wonderful. Lovely place to visit and full of pretty girls. I've never been scammed there. The scam mentioned is universal. I have had it tried on me in many locals. Given I straight out avoid bars and clubs at any time and given I always select a venue to meet that is convenient and known to me I avoid these hassles.

DramaFree11
03-15-21, 14:17
Odessa in the summer is wonderful. Lovely place to visit and full of pretty girls. I've never been scammed there. The scam mentioned is universal. I have had it tried on me in many locals. Given I straight out avoid bars and clubs at any time and given I always select a venue to meet that is convenient and known to me I avoid these hassles.You made my point. You were lucky, many are not so lucky. Yes, scams can be avoided if you know what you are doing and you have some common sense. Odessa is not a place for a Newbie. You are correct it is beautiful, just like Kiev, but there is just too many scams.

GDreams
03-15-21, 17:06
You made my point. You were lucky, many are not so lucky. Yes, scams can be avoided if you know what you are doing and you have some common sense. Odessa is not a place for a Newbie. You are correct it is beautiful, just like Kiev, but there is just too many scams.Plenty of reports of similar scams here in the ST Petersburg forum, I had it tried in China, Philippines, Mongolia and Tanzania. It really is not that difficult to avoid and certainly not a reason to avoid Kiev or Odessa. I just say I want to have sex, not a drink, and if you get resistance then you will get resistance after spending a lot of money on booze or worse get drugged and cleaned out.

DramaFree11
03-16-21, 00:10
Plenty of reports of similar scams here in the ST Petersburg forum, I had it tried in China, Philippines, Mongolia and Tanzania. It really is not that difficult to avoid and certainly not a reason to avoid Kiev or Odessa. I just say I want to have sex, not a drink, and if you get resistance then you will get resistance after spending a lot of money on booze or worse get drugged and cleaned out.Not true at all. I lived in St. Pet. For a brief time. Very few issues at all with scams Moscow was even better, almost no issues at all. Never did I have an issue at restaurant or bar, nothing like the crap they were trying to pull in Ukraine. I am in MTY I had a few issues with fake profiles, but very few. Nothing at Restaurants. Sorry you are just wrong. There are scams every where in Ukraine, you know and I know. You guys pretending they do not exist are real doing a disservice to other.

Wgmm99
03-16-21, 09:06
Since everywhere in the world is closed came finally to Odessa to find out how they try to rip you off.

I read about it a lot but wanted to see it myself.

First of all I must say most the girls in Odessa are mostly 8-10/10 on my beauty scale. Lots of make up and well dressed up to go out.

You will find them in the weekends in all bars of city center: I tried Amsterdam (hotel / restaurant) and central bar both places with good crowd and a few w / g coming in after midnight.

I also tried disco Minesterium which is open on Friday Saturday and Sunday. Young people: if you are of that age group its fun.

For calling taxis I used uber and bolt with the free internet at the airport. Simcards available in all telecom shops. Trip to city shouldn't cost more than 200 uah. 30 uah taxi will charge for entering airport zone..Very similar thing was attempted on me.

I met a girl on Tinder and met in some Irish bar right in touristy area. And then her friend showed up. And it was a huge mismatch. The girl I met was cute and dressed well. The other one was fat and dumpy. I can smell the bullshit but I am 20 meters from my airbnb and worked all day and was hoping to bang a cute girl and got to sleep. I understood that this won't happen but I am too curious and want to see where this will go. First off, they ha a story that they are from Vinnitsia on vacation and will go home the next day. I also work in Vinnitisia a lot and it is crystal clear they have never been there. I also didn't question this girl about the fact that she told me she was working in the afternoon and now says she is on vacation. Anyway. I have a few beers and say I am going home. The cute girl is now kissing on me and grabbing my dick and telling me how handsome and interesting I am and I should go with hem to a disco and if I don't feel like dancing she will dance for me. She is laying it on very thick and I am curious to know exactly what is the scam. SO. I say you will go and I use my uber to get the taxi so I will know where I am. I also went in the bathroom and put all my money in my sock except for maybe 1000 grivna and also hid my main bank card. I kept a PrivatBnak card on me with also maybe 1000 grivna. Now, in the car they are both tugging on my dick and kissing my neck, etc. Even though they said it should be a 5 minute ride, it was like 20-30 minutes. Now we are in the most gaudy nightclub in MOldavanka. Not a great area at all. And I can see 2 types of groups. Other middle aged dudes with a few young bitches hanging on them or wannabe gangster types. They ask me what I want to drink and I saw whiskey and coke. Boom. On the table is a bottle of johny walker blue, cola, ice, hooka, cheese and meat plate, etc. And of course the charade continues. I poured a large glass of whiskey. Maybe 1/3 the bottle and watched my glass close as possible. In the meantime this chick is jerking me under the table but also trying not to do too much. I excused myself to the bathroom and called an uber (I brought my drink with me) and then when I came back to the table, I could see that my uber was outside. I texted the driver and said I will be out in 2 minutes. I ordered a bunch of shots for us and for next table. Drank my shot, said I wanted to grab a cigarette and walked outside. It was clear security was watching closely so as soon as I was maybe clear of the door, I took off, jumped in the cab and said to go. This dummy was texting me for next 24 hours saying she had to pay the bill and she will find me, blah blah. I am not sure how the scam works. I assume they get a percentage of the inflated bill. But not sure if they had to pay after I stiffed them. But, I do hope so.

This was definitely a 1 time adventure and I don't recommend trying this at all. I understand it could have ended badly. But I have to say, they tried to fuck me and they got good and fucked instead!

DramaFree11
03-16-21, 16:19
Very similar thing was attempted on me.

I met a girl on Tinder and met in some Irish bar right in touristy area. And then her friend showed up. And it was a huge mismatch. The girl I met was cute and dressed well. The other one was fat and dumpy. I can smell the bullshit but I am 20 meters from my airbnb and worked all day and was hoping to bang a cute girl and got to sleep. I understood that this won't happen but I am too curious and want to see where this will go. First off, they ha a story that they are from Vinnitsia on vacation and will go home the next day. I also work in Vinnitisia a lot and it is crystal clear they have never been there. I also didn't question this girl about the fact that she told me she was working in the afternoon and now says she is on vacation. Anyway. I have a few beers and say I am going home. The cute girl is now kissing on me and grabbing my dick and telling me how handsome and interesting I am and I should go with hem to a disco and if I don't feel like dancing she will dance for me. She is laying it on very thick and I am curious to know exactly what is the scam. SO. I say you will go and I use my uber to get the taxi so I will know where I am. I also went in the bathroom and put all my money in my sock except for maybe 1000 grivna and also hid my main bank card. I kept a PrivatBnak card on me with also maybe 1000 grivna. Now, in the car they are both tugging on my dick and kissing my neck, etc.Awesome report and thanks for sharing. These guys are just flat out lying when they claim this does not exist in UKraine. They know what is going on. Maybe it does not happen to them directly, but they are well aware of this behavior and choose to ignore it or claim it does* not exist. Just not true, this is the main reason you need to avoid Ukraine, or be very careful.

WonderfulLife
03-17-21, 02:53
Finally I could find some girls from tinder who were willing to come to the hotel instead of taking me to the shady bar.

She was around 30's and asked for 1500 uah for 2 h.

Also in Amsterdam bar there were some W / G on the weekend as probably in other places.

Will come back when weather will be better and hoping to find more fun.

Happy mongering.

WonderfulLife
03-17-21, 03:05
Restaurant oblaka I visited on Sunday evening with some friends.

Very upscale and place to meet high end escorts.

Lots of model type girls could be seen with some guys or sitting alone.

If not lucky the visit to the restaurant is worth it.

Wgmm99
03-17-21, 12:06
Awesome report and thanks for sharing. These guys are just flat out lying when they claim this does not exist in UKraine. They know what is going on. Maybe it does not happen to them directly, but they are well aware of this behavior and choose to ignore it or claim it does* not exist. Just not true, this is the main reason you need to avoid Ukraine, or be very careful.I have been coming to Ukraine more regularly for work since 2014 and this is the only time it happened to me. But of course I heard of this shit happening a lot in some form or another. This restaurant scam is one of the oldest tricks in the book and luckily I saw it coming. But, if I were drugged or got caught, I would have had a big problem for sure. I never meet girls in a bar or restaurant unless of course it is a normal date with a normal woman. By normal I mean someone who it is realistic I would date. (I am 45 and in good shape but I don't look at anyone under 37 for normal dating).

I have also heard this story first hand. Guy gets a girl to come to apartment and he pays her first. Then she says she is underage and will leave and if he complains she will call the police or her brothers or whatever.

So, I take the precaution of meeting them at my apartment but say that the domophone is broken and then I meet them outside and size them up.

I also obviously working girl-proof my apartment. Documents, cards, cash, etc. Well hidden. I do have some expensive gear that is part of my profession so I have this risk. However, I keep a military medal (real) and retired police badge (my cousin's) on the bar where I invite them to sit. I also keep helmet and vest from war on a chair next to bar. I want to signal that they should think before trying a crime of opportunity. I don't know if this is effective but I haven't hd a problem yet. Of course I have had duds, cold fish, etc. Between that and dog tags, which I also make kinda obvious, I let them know what I am capable of. Some don't even notice and I wonder if they are stupid. They should also be paying attention to their surroundings!. Anyway, not everyone has such stuff of course. But I do think it is very possible top create a back story that will make them think twice before grabbing something. And obviously, with all this said, my goal is to have a nice time with a pretty girl for a few hours. So, I do all of this very subtlety. My point is that you should definitely take precautions, let them know who you are (even if it is not real), and then, after that, you are taking some risk.

GDreams
03-17-21, 14:53
Not true at all. I lived in St. Pet. For a brief time. Very few issues at all with scams Moscow was even better, almost no issues at all. Never did I have an issue at restaurant or bar, nothing like the crap they were trying to pull in Ukraine. I am in MTY I had a few issues with fake profiles, but very few. Nothing at Restaurants. Sorry you are just wrong. There are scams every where in Ukraine, you know and I know. You guys pretending they do not exist are real doing a disservice to other.Below was taken from the St Petersburg thread.


It usually does not happen elsewhere in Russia, and it happens very often in Saint Petersburg. I have close friends who have been living there for years and they warned me right away. This is a huge, ongoing, and widespread "razvod" scam that has permeated much of the most popular bar and club scene, and is not just limited to strip clubs. I have experienced daily attempts at being scammed on Tinder and by girls approaching you on Rubinstein street. Bartenders, waiters, police, and mafia are getting kick backs, and nothing is being done about it because there is so much money it in. I feel sorry for all the tourists who have been scammed during the football games in SPB.

Signs to look out for, and usually with 18-25 year old girls.

1. Tinder girl will suggest to meet on Nevski or Rubinstein street.

2. She names a good bar (could be Karaoke bar where each song is 1000, each bottle is 6000, the bill is in hundreds of dollars quickly).You say it doesn't happen others say it does. It can happen anywhere, in Tanzania it was spiked drinks, in Shanghai I had the tea scam. Scams are everywhere. I've had some low grade scams which I now know to avoid, I've read about some scams and know how to avoid but best of all I am anti social and don't drink so manage to avoid many of the scams perpetrated due to dulled brain function.

DramaFree11
03-17-21, 21:19
Below was taken from the St Petersburg thread.

You say it doesn't happen others say it does. It can happen anywhere, in Tanzania it was spiked drinks, in Shanghai I had the tea scam. Scams are everywhere. I've had some low grade scams which I now know to avoid, I've read about some scams and know how to avoid but best of all I am anti social and don't drink so manage to avoid many of the scams perpetrated due to dulled brain function.You have to try to get scammed in Russia, it is so obvious. I will say Odessa is fun, and I had a great time, but for getting laid it is the wrong place. Yes, Odessa and Kiev are the capital of Scams, I have no knowledge of the other places your listed.

GDreams
03-18-21, 01:16
You have to try to get scammed in Russia, it is so obvious. I will say Odessa is fun, and I had a great time, but for getting laid it is the wrong place. Yes, Odessa and Kiev are the capital of Scams, I have no knowledge of the other places your listed.Then if you don't know about other places don't say Kiev and Odessa are the capital of scams. Spell out the scams and educate people and if they don't heed you they have been warned. Spell out all the scams you have been subjected to.

Both Kiev and Odessa are nice places to visit and much easier than Russia so a lot of people will visit there whether you recommend it or not.

PhotoSlider
03-22-21, 03:32
Then if you don't know about other places don't say Kiev and Odessa are the capital of scams. Spell out the scams and educate people and if they don't heed you they have been warned. Spell out all the scams you have been subjected to.

Both Kiev and Odessa are nice places to visit and much easier than Russia so a lot of people will visit there whether you recommend it or not.Wish I had the talent to explain my thoughts in such a succinct and concise manner.

I almost said "Do not cast your pearls before swine", but then nobody would have had the pleasure of witnessing how brilliantly you debunked our resident drama troll.

Ivan Buyan
03-23-21, 12:06
Hey guys,

A lot of forum members think Ukraine is all about scams. Is it so? - Definitely yes. Just like any other country of the world if you look and act like a guy who needs to be scammed.

I made friends with some escort girls, strip club security guys and and all sort of people over few last years of living in Kyiv. Trust me, foreigners and locals are scammed the same way.

It's just foreigners have more money as a rule and girls like to scam them more. The most common scam is so-called "consummation" is when a girl gets a % (usually 25%) from a check of the.

Food and drinks consumed by her "guest". It is super common is strip clubs. Ever wondered why strippers like pine apple fresh juice so much? Cause its expensive.

Girls try to make you drunk first, very often working closely with bar guys to add more "hard" stuff into your cocktails. When you are drunk, you lose control over your money. I heard few stories from.

Strip clib security guys that foreigners give them credit cards to go to the nearest ATM and cash out more funds for fun (how stupid can it be! + when you are drunk, they will add more items into your check.

So the most universal rule to avoid scams. Don't get too drunk and use common sense.

If the girl is approaching you and she definitely looks out of your league, then ask hew straight away. How much she wants for sex. If she is a real pro hooker, she will tell you the price and you can negotiate on where and how you want to do it. Is she says some bullshit like "I'm not like that, I just like you" along with too many compliments, then most likely you are the aim for consummation.

PhotoSlider
03-23-21, 21:48
Hey guys,

A lot of forum members think Ukraine is all about scams. Is it so? - Definitely yes. Just like any other country of the world if you look and act like a guy who needs to be scammed.Agree. Enjoy your life, do not be high-strung. Visible signs of distrust make one look less confident, confused, vulnerable, and that sort of behavior definitely attracts predators. But certainly be aware of ever present risks.


I made friends with some escort girls, strip club security guys and and all sort of people over few last years of living in Kyiv. Trust me, foreigners and locals are scammed the same way.

It's just foreigners have more money as a rule and girls like to scam them more.Some of the foreigners also frequent locations with higher probability for scams:

Dating sites,

Arena City,

Strip clubs.

Those are designed to scam. Strip club IMHO is not about naked ladies, it is about stripping the customers off of their hard earned cash.


The most common scam is so-called "consummation" is when a girl gets a % (usually 25%) from a check of the.

Food and drinks consumed by her "guest". It is super common is strip clubs. Ever wondered why strippers like pine apple fresh juice so much? Cause its expensive.

Girls try to make you drunk first, very often working closely with bar guys to add more "hard" stuff into your cocktails. When you are drunk, you lose control over your money. I heard few stories from.

Strip clib security guys that foreigners give them credit cards to go to the nearest ATM and cash out more funds for fun (how stupid can it be! + when you are drunk, they will add more items into your check.

So the most universal rule to avoid scams. Don't get too drunk and use common sense.Precisely! Common sense.

If the girl gives you a present on the very first date, then it's a scam. Wait for a follow-up request.

If the girl invites you to go shopping, then it may be a scam. Agree on the compensation amount, or she'll try to squeeze money out of you. I am OK with having sex first, and then me saying "Why don't we go now, and buy you a dress for our going together to theater tonight? I have 600 UAH." That's better than her pushing with a promise of a bright future while rubbing my cock in the taxi.

If the girl refuses to go to Puzata Hata fast food chain, and insists on Alaska or Monaco or Velyur, then it's a scam, and I will reply that I am unfortunately busy, will cancel the date with her, and instead invite one of my regulars to Velyur, simply because Velyur has a sofa in the men's washroom, and me and my girl did test-drive it already, having fun before waiting for our order being cooked in the kitchen. Back in 2013 Velyur had great food and impeccable service. I like those locations where I don't even have to open the menu, but rather explain what I'd like to eat, and they make it. And if I don't have sufficient time, then my regular will join me at Puzata Hata, NP. GIA girls went with me, - easy. I consider it a good test of girl's trustworthiness, - first lunch date at Puzata Hata.

I do value ladies with decent degree of dignity. At the same time, any attempt to control me, any chance of her pretending that she is the only one in the whole country of Ukraine, and she gets the boot. Next one please.


If the girl is approaching you and she definitely looks out of your league, then ask hew straight away. How much she wants for sex. If she is a real pro hooker, she will tell you the price and you can negotiate on where and how you want to do it. Is she says some bullshit like "I'm not like that, I just like you" along with too many compliments, then most likely you are the aim for consummation.I don't care if she looks out of my league. It's a free market economy. If she has an attractive offer, and I consider it reasonable, then her being 10+ in my rating book will not instill any humility in me. On the contrary, I'll be happy to have her. That's Kiev, possibilities are endless. Diamonds occasionally can be found, and chances of getting better ones, according to my individual personal requirements, are higher in Kiev than anywhere else. YMMV.

I have been almost scammed with lost wallet on the floor at Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow. Check-in desk airline employee and police were all visibly involved in staging it. At the time I didn't know the particular structure of that scam. Common sense helped to avoid it.

There was an attempt in San Diego with a P4P girl, saying "Pay me upfront" and then she had to go to get her purse from the car. Kicked her out without giving her money.

I do not leave my drinks unattended.

I do not go to any dating sites, and God forbid, I would never think of marrying an Administrator / Manager of a dating site / agency. Not in Ukraine, not anywhere else. And even knowing all that is going on in those dating sites, I would still not think that Kiev and Odessa are the scam capitals of the world. Don't be stupid, do not expose yourself to the obvious dangers.

There are threats, vulnerabilities and risks. Making someone less protected by frequenting locations with higher probability of materialized threat, makes that person more vulnerable, more susceptible, raises the risk. Simple math.

Again, I never go to Arena City, and as much as I enjoyed Rio and Star Rhino for a few years, I stopped. I could see Rio across the street from my balcony, and felt no appeal. I think of them as vacuum cleaners, sucking money out of my pockets. Mandarin next to River Palace has been great, but is long time gone.

Getting regular, or even hourly girls from established consolidating dispatchers is so much safer, because those dispatchers treat me as a repeat customer, and it is in their interest to keep me safe and returning. I vet the girls during curbside casting, and still maybe 10% or so in my bedroom do not live up to expectations, that's the inevitable price of business, just like banks allow a certain degree of online fraud to keep the cash flowing, or customers go elsewhere. Typical allowance at large institutions like JP Morgan Chase is 5% or less. The most secure way to avoid financial fraud is not to be in business at all. Same with mongering.

Once I picked a girl, paid right away, and gave the money to the other girl that didn't pass the casting (I always ask to deliver at least 2 girls to choose from). So, she decided to play smart, that perhaps I have too much, and don't care, or am drunk and in a hurry. She announced:

- It's one 500 UAH bill short!

Well I always count the money before getting out of my apartment, put the exact amount agreed upon over the phone in my jeans pocket, plus 100 UAH in another, if I decide to reject, but the girls are polite and classy enough to give them the ride fee. Anyway, I firmly said: "Find it. Call your mama-san. I gave it to you" Well, lo and behold she found it. Why? Because back at the agency apartment she would have been explained of consequences, and potentially penalty might have been imposed.

I've witnessed personally three occasions with Kiev hourly girls fined. Two of them for $200 - for giving their personal phone numbers to me, and enforcement checked all the messengers. And another girl - $500, for going incommunicado, in that one I wasn't involved.

So, you are right, Ivan. Scams are evenly distributed throughout the world. There are extremums around locations destined to attract crime.

I enjoyed my lengthy stays in Rio de Janeiro. Crime is very high in Rio and Sao Paolo. I didn't experience any. I had an awesome college girl Danielle at Monte Carlo Terma. After 2 am she had to leave the premises, so she simply said to my happy face:

- I am going with you to your place now!

Did I feel I was in danger? No. I didn't pick her up on Copacabana beach, she didn't look like a drug addict. I didn't find her through the dating site, and I had no intention to marry her, or even have a relationship with her. I also didn't go looking for girls in Rocinha or Vigidal favelas. I speak enough Brazilian-Portuguese (or Russian, or Ukrainian) to understand that she was indeed a Liberal Arts student. We didn't discuss money, and she became my friend and language instructor with great oral skills for the rest of my stay. No regrets. Gorgeous smile, amazing coffee with milk skin tone body. In the end she insisted on going with me to the airport, seeing me through check-in, and giving a loooong 20 years old GFE DFK. That was after back at my place we were almost late for our taxi, because she wanted to get a third shot out of me, and succeeded. Then while riding with me in the taxi, she took off her panties, and asked to put it into my check-in luggage. Later I learned it's a national tradition in Brazil, a sign of ultimate admiration. What a lady!

BTW, my apartment is always girl-proof. In any country. Still I behaved with Danielle like I trusted her. That's the only way to open up the beautiful young lady, to live a life. Cariocas IMHO are the closest to Ukrainian girls in their behavior.

So, screw the resident drama troll, badmouthing Kiev for his own failures, pretending to protect newbies, while in reality begging for attention and respect. As GDreams explained, we can decide ourselves.

Forgive my lengthy rant. Yes, I love Odessa, Kiev, Ukraine, and beyond. Woman in any country is what you will make out of her.

Be safe, gentlemen!

Ivan Buyan
03-29-21, 12:09
Another scams that are less common but a lot more dangerous and they still may happen in Ukraine are the scams aimed to scary the shit out of.

Easy sex seekers and sometimes even hurt them (and take their money of course).

Again, this may happen to anybody not being cautious in any country.

So the most common start of the scam is same as consummation. Some nice looking girl approaches you and doesn't offer sex for money straight away.

She accepts your cocktails, talks to you, laughs a lot and then (when you are drunk) offers to continue the party in some other place or at her apartment.

If you accept the offer, then there are few outcomes:

1) You are super lucky and it ends with real party and sex afterwards.

2) You are taken to some suburbs district with zero foreigners and end up in some apartment where some other guy appears and acts husband or policeman.

It may turn out that the girls is underaged / has drugs on her so you will lose money not be beaten by a jealous husband or not to be taken to the police.

3) The least pleasant variant. You may get robbed when you step out of the taxi car by some other dudes that work closely with the girl.

And back to some drugs. Also one of the most common ways to scam foreigners is to sell them "drugs".

In the best case it will end with you getting what you did not pay for (for.

Example some cheap low quality amphetamine in stead of cocaine. Low quality amphetamine.

Is super popular among hookers / party girls in Ukraine but be careful.

Remember that cocaine is super expensive in Ukraine and may cost up to 200 dollar per gram.

If you are offered a low price, then most likely you will lose money or get some low quality.

Amphetamine which will keep you awake and uncomfortable for many hours.

I know some girls offer to sell you Viagra like its something illegal and hard to get.

Remember, in Ukraine you can buy Viagra in almost any drug store. It can be sold.

Without doctor's prescription.

Common sense, less alcohol, stay away from non-tourist places outside of Kyiv / Odessa center.

And some advice from me that look obvious for some users but may be new to others.

A) don't flash money. I prefer to keep money not in the wallet and have.

It in different amounts and different pockets. When you are a foreigner and take out your wallet at the bar to pay for cocktails / food. Trust me, chances.

Are really high that many eyes are looking at what you have inside. Its a sign that you need to be robbed / fooled when you have a stash of 500 UAH bills along.

With euros and dollar inside. Better leave the wallet at home. Take 200 UAH bills + some 50 UAH bills for tips and keep them in different pockets.

When I want to party and plan to spend some money for "love", I take 50-100 $ bills and hide it inside my ass (kidding), I put in inside my deepest pocket and.

Don't touch it unless I need to pay for sex in some cosy and safe place. Then I put some 200 UAH bills in the right pocket and 50-100 UAH in the left pocket.

This way I am sure that I can "dive" into my right pocket, count 5 bills and take 1000 UAH without flashing anything.

Another GEM. In Ukraine, you don't need to register sim cards, so I suggest you to buy 200 dollar Android phone and a sim card for pubs / bars / parties. I once lost.

My main phone with all the mail / bank / messengers profiles which drove me nuts.

Believe me, bling bling on your hand and neck + iPhone 12 max + leather wallet with multi GEO bills = you are a target for scammers.

Cash, regular phone, nice but not casual expensive clothes, smile and the absense of fear on your face + moderate tipping (10-15%) you are a romantic traveler, a nice dude who chose Ukraine.

Among other countries and this will attract only good vibes to you.

PhotoSlider
03-29-21, 20:32
...She accepts your cocktails, talks to you, laughs a lot and then (when you are drunk) offers to continue the party in some other place or at her apartment...There's also another variation on the above:

The room has the door, which supposedly provides privacy. But the rest of the apartment or even the whole building is more like a dorm, with people coming in and out. There also might be a screen or a bookshelf separating your bed from the door. Happy customer leaves his clothes, cash and other valuables closer to the door, and engages in foreplay with the beauty (Ukrainian or Chinese or Cuban or some other country, same scam). The other partner in crime enters, - stealthily, or simply quickly grabs your clothes, takes possession of the valuables, and leaves without being noticed, or maybe creates noise to scare everybody, relying on the fact that customer's dick is inside the girl, and the customer himself, not so happy anymore, but still naked, is too shy to run through the hallway in pursuit of his credit cards, ID, etc.

The defense against this is obvious: control your environment, do not go to unknown locations. Invite the girls to your own scam-proof apartment. The rest is. Just as Ivan explained: do not place yourself in a position of a target.

Besides that, I do not like fucking the girls at their apartment anyway, even if it's an agency, or an indie. Do not trust their hygiene, etc. It is also difficult to romance the young beauty with my boyish charms while mamasan is outside the door, ready to knock while you still have 10 more minutes, and literally are trying to come.

Drugs represent a serious offense in Ukraine, and bribes on the spot may not help. Legal system is significantly different. Do not do it as a foreigner. In fact, do not accept anything, even water from an unknown person in a potentially risky situation, even from the cab driver. Have your own. Best of all. Do it at your own place.

Otherwise, IMO mongering in Ukraine is safe. I personally had minimal challenges, that I could totally handle on my own. Even while drunk, I am treated as a repeated customer, and crime against me is bad for business. The worst is when the girl is not that much into me, or vise versa. First sex was great, but then in the morning she doesn't seem as attractive anymore. The solution is simple. Get another one. Or two. Rinse, repeat, until completely satisfied, then sleep it off, and keep going. Lots of young ladies celebrate their 18th birthdays every day all over Ukraine!

Andres901
04-22-21, 04:36
I have been to many countries and Ukraine once. But back then I stayed in a hotel and grabbed street hookers for fun at $100/ each. Fun back then but not now. Now I want less of a street girl. After this Covid stuff dies down and we can freely travel, I would like to rent an apartment in Odessa (where?) but not sure how to find girls to come over. Any leads? Websites?

Thanks guys.

Andres901
04-22-21, 16:51
Restaurant oblaka I visited on Sunday evening with some friends.

Very upscale and place to meet high end escorts.

Lots of model type girls could be seen with some guys or sitting alone.

If not lucky the visit to the restaurant is worth it.Can you give price range of high end for the newbies please.

GDreams
04-23-21, 14:22
I have been to many countries and Ukraine once. But back then I stayed in a hotel and grabbed street hookers for fun at $100/ each. Fun back then but not now. Now I want less of a street girl. After this Covid stuff dies down and we can freely travel, I would like to rent an apartment in Odessa (where?) but not sure how to find girls to come over. Any leads? Websites?

Thanks guys.Google apartment rent Odessa. I prefer central around ekaterinskaya and deribasovskaya. Some like around arkadia.

For girls try mamba, or Google in Russian znakomstva devushki Odessa. There was also a site called mister.com that advertised a lot of girls with prices.

Iceberg27
04-23-21, 21:10
Ivan and Photoslider thanks for those informative and nice reports. I really enjoyed while reading. Regarding scams yes I totallya agree with you. No need to be a paranoid so you will seem fearfull less confident and also no need to be too relaxing. I think it is good to be in the middle of both and enjoy the mongering. I have been in Ukraine I think 20 times. 10 of this was in Odessa. I think the women in Odessa in average older and more experienced. Kiev is full of young students who are willing to lick your the. Ick for a nice dinner and taxi cost return home which is usually outside of city center. Usually they have to take 30-40 minutes taxi drives from center. I am 41 and get a nice 21 uni student in Kyiv in Christmas this year. Also Seeking arrangement website offers many opportunities. I am considering to be again in Odessa in Late may. Let s see.

Andres901
04-24-21, 15:25
Google apartment rent Odessa. I prefer central around ekaterinskaya and deribasovskaya. Some like around arkadia.

For girls try mamba, or Google in Russian znakomstva devushki Odessa. There was also a site called mister.com that advertised a lot of girls with prices.Thank you for the info. Greatly appreciated.

Ivan Buyan
04-29-21, 12:44
I have been to many countries and Ukraine once. But back then I stayed in a hotel and grabbed street hookers for fun at $100/ each. Fun back then but not now. Now I want less of a street girl. After this Covid stuff dies down and we can freely travel, I would like to rent an apartment in Odessa (where?) but not sure how to find girls to come over. Any leads? Websites?

Thanks guys.Hey buddy, so I definitely recommend Odessa in Summer time but be ready for higher prices due to the peak season for hookers and tourists. Expect a lot of guys from Turkey hunting for the same girls=). If you like the Tinder game, then it will work for you in Odessa, is you want some good GFE or just good sex with a hot girl + you have some $$$ to spend for first class hooker, then I suggest you to try OMG (http://ohmygirls.agency/). Despite having an "agency" word in their domain name, OMG is far from the agency. They are rather a service that allows you to communicate with chicks directly and they have some really hot models out there. You will need a Telegram messenger for this though.

My advice. If Odessa girls are expensive and you want to have someone to accompany and give you pleasure for few days, them pick a girl from another city and simply invite her to Odessa. You can get to Odessa from any part of Ukraine for 30 dollar and 10 hours.

As for apartments rent. Go for AirBNB or better try this - https://www.dobovo.com/.

I have been using this site since 2011 and sometimes they have super deals (even though I would not expect great discounts for Summertime in Odessa).

Sorbonne
04-30-21, 21:05
Hey buddy, so I definitely recommend Odessa in Summer time but be ready for higher prices due to the peak season for hookers and tourists. Expect a lot of guys from Turkey hunting for the same girls=). If you like the Tinder game, then it will work for you in Odessa, is you want some good GFE or just good sex with a hot girl + you have some $$$ to spend for first class hooker, then I suggest you to try OMG (http://ohmygirls.agency/). Despite having an "agency" word in their domain name, OMG is far from the agency. They are rather a service that allows you to communicate with chicks directly and they have some really hot models out there. You will need a Telegram messenger for this though.

My advice. If Odessa girls are expensive and you want to have someone to accompany and give you pleasure for few days, them pick a girl from another city and simply invite her to Odessa. You can get to Odessa from any part of Ukraine for 30 dollar and 10 hours.

As for apartments rent. Go for AirBNB or better try this - https://www.dobovo.com/.

I have been using this site since 2011 and sometimes they have super deals (even though I would not expect great discounts for Summertime in Odessa).What would you say about the beaches in Odessa? Is seaweed causing problems?

Iceberg27
04-30-21, 22:52
I guess you mean jelly fish. It is not a big problem in Odessa. It is more a problem in Yalta but let Russians worry about it anymore. I just want to give my own opinions about Odessa scene. Yes you will find lots of Turks there because we can enter a simple identity card to the country. You don't even need a passport. But you will also see spanish, arabic, Israel guys. Ivan is really giving good advice on bringing girls from another city. Offer her a nice vacation and she will jump. Easier than picking up tourist fking -experienced Odessa girls. For P4 P I will suggest stendhal. You won't find it in internet but if I can recall I will post a picture of it. It is in center. 100 USD a girl for 2 hours. Stendhal isn't always open but there is a bar close to it and you can always find young ODessa WG there. I think quality isn't bad compared to rest of the world. But of course you will be mindblowed with 9's you saw on Arcadia or beaches so you won't like the 7 s there. Anyway. Regarding MP I go to Odessa 7 years every summer and I couldn't find a descent massage place. You can find it in Kyiv-Kharkov but interestingly Odessa is so bad on this issue. If ivan knows please enlighten us. Freebies is a long issue but don't be so pessimist. Last year I was there and since there was very small no of tourists all clubs was full of Ukranian. The atmosphere was great. Always more girls in clubs but bad side this year Ukraine men from other cities came to Odesa. So there was a lot of Ukraine men too. But anyway they are not as sharky as Turks. Not big deal. Arcadia is the most busy place but I think Otrada Beach or Ikra beach has more potential.

Sorbonne
05-02-21, 10:03
I guess you mean jelly fish. It is not a big problem in Odessa. It is more a problem in Yalta but let Russians worry about it anymore. I just want to give my own opinions about Odessa scene. Yes you will find lots of Turks there because we can enter a simple identity card to the country. You don't even need a passport. But you will also see spanish, arabic, Israel guys. Ivan is really giving good advice on bringing girls from another city. Offer her a nice vacation and she will jump. Easier than picking up tourist fking -experienced Odessa girls. For P4 P I will suggest stendhal. You won't find it in internet but if I can recall I will post a picture of it. It is in center. 100 USD a girl for 2 hours. Stendhal isn't always open but there is a bar close to it and you can always find young ODessa WG there. I think quality isn't bad compared to rest of the world. But of course you will be mindblowed with 9's you saw on Arcadia or beaches so you won't like the 7 s there. Anyway. Regarding MP I go to Odessa 7 years every summer and I couldn't find a descent massage place. You can find it in Kyiv-Kharkov but interestingly Odessa is so bad on this issue. If ivan knows please enlighten us. Freebies is a long issue but don't be so pessimist. Last year I was there and since there was very small no of tourists all clubs was full of Ukranian. The atmosphere was great. Always more girls in clubs but bad side this year Ukraine men from other cities came to Odesa. So there was a lot of Ukraine men too. But anyway they are not as sharky as Turks. Not big deal. Arcadia is the most busy place but I think Otrada Beach or Ikra beach has more potential.No, I meant seaweed. I have heard that Odesa beaches are now infested with seaweed, and bacteria that come with it, due to global warming.

Ivan Buyan
05-05-21, 12:03
No, I meant seaweed. I have heard that Odesa beaches are now infested with seaweed, and bacteria that come with it, due to global warming.IMHO Odessa region has the best beaches in Ukraine still this is very much true that green seaweed that looks like a green colored oil spilled on the surface of the water is very common in Odessa in last years. It becomes a real problem in late summer and unfortunately this is not really due to the global warming but rather due to different city shit beined drained into the Black Sea.

Still I would not be worried about it much. Just don't go to the water in places with seaweed, its nothing super dangerous. Having a sex with a stranger may cause more problems=).

Odessa is super corrupted place even for Ukraine (because it has a lot of money cause of port + tourism) so Kyiv government can't do much about it. On the other hand you can see this green oil-like riverweed in Dnipro in Kyiv throughout the summer.

This summer Odesa will be full of Ukrainian men with $$ EU is still closed and lockdown is Ukraine is over, so most of the people will go to Odessa. Some will go to Turkey but from my experience Turkey is rather a place for family vacations and Odessa is number one place for bachelors and pussy seekers.

My guess is that Ibiza (probably the best summer club in Ukraine) will have full house for the whole summer.

Pro tip! If you are young, adventurous, speak some Russian and don't mind good working class heroes experience (meeting really nice open minded people and sexy non-escort and no gold diggers girls) and you want to have a type of bold and bankrupt experience then I suggest you to go to Zatoka.

Its a region near Odessa with super nice beaches, affordable prices and good vibes for certain type of people.

Alexsan
05-08-21, 18:25
Hey buddy, so I definitely recommend Odessa in Summer time but be ready for higher prices due to the peak season for hookers and tourists. Expect a lot of guys from Turkey hunting for the same girls=). If you like the Tinder game, then it will work for you in Odessa, is you want some good GFE or just good sex with a hot girl + you have some $$$ to spend for first class hooker, then I suggest you to try OMG (http://ohmygirls.agency/). Despite having an "agency" word in their domain name, OMG is far from the agency. They are rather a service that allows you to communicate with chicks directly and they have some really hot models out there. You will need a Telegram messenger for this though.

My advice. If Odessa girls are expensive and you want to have someone to accompany and give you pleasure for few days, them pick a girl from another city and simply invite her to Odessa. You can get to Odessa from any part of Ukraine for 30 dollar and 10 hours.

As for apartments rent. Go for AirBNB or better try this - https://www.dobovo.com/.

I have been using this site since 2011 and sometimes they have super deals (even though I would not expect great discounts for Summertime in Odessa).Is lockdown in Ukraine over now? Is it possible to get there next month?

FilthyBeaver
05-10-21, 03:08
It's over, book away.


Is lockdown in Ukraine over now? Is it possible to get there next month?

IndusMint
05-10-21, 08:06
What is still required for entry into ukraine?

FilthyBeaver
05-10-21, 17:15
Visitukraine. Today.

Negative PCR test and health insurance.


What is still required for entry into ukraine?

Iceberg27
05-12-21, 16:50
Visitukraine. Today.

Negative PCR test and health insurance.Be carefull about prices of insurance. UIA was giving good prices before but now visitukraine gives half prices. Don't overpay.

Anyway is there any updated info about massage parlors or masseusea in Odessa? I really need a good relaxing massage.

VinDici
05-13-21, 17:17
Anyway is there any updated info about massage parlors or masseusea in Odessa? I really need a good relaxing massage.Send me a DM, I'll share what I know.

Adindas
05-18-21, 22:31
Visitukraine. Today.

Negative PCR test and health insurance.


Be carefull about prices of insurance. UIA was giving good prices before but now visitukraine gives half prices. Don't overpay.

Anyway is there any updated info about massage parlors or masseusea in Odessa? I really need a good relaxing massage.If you already have a multi trip international Travel Insurance and you just want to stay in UA or less than a month, do you still need a Health insurance?

If yes, does the travel insurance need to be bought from Ukrainian Insurance Company or it could be from anywhere else? Thanks.

FilthyBeaver
05-19-21, 02:47
I can't answer that definitely and not to sound like a complete ass, but it's not even worth thinking about. Buy it from one of the companies on visitukraine.com, the price is laughable by western (especially US) standards. It's one less thing you'll need to think about.


If you already have a multi trip international Travel Insurance and you just want to stay in UA or less than a month, do you still need a Health insurance?

If yes, does the travel insurance need to be bought from Ukrainian Insurance Company or it could be from anywhere else? Thanks.

VinDici
05-19-21, 08:00
If you already have a multi trip international Travel Insurance and you just want to stay in UA or less than a month, do you still need a Health insurance?

If yes, does the travel insurance need to be bought from Ukrainian Insurance Company or it could be from anywhere else? Thanks.Yes and Yes.

Buy some from the Visit Ukraine website, it's dirt cheap. They do check the insurance document at the border.

Iceberg27
05-31-21, 15:01
Hi everyone, since I benefited the reports here I see an owe to all of you to report back. I was in city from 12th till 19th. Complete one week and half of it wasted honestly. I arrived on Wednesday and streets was empty. Even deribesovskaya was ten percent of the people that I see in summer. I will say in beginning; what I learned is; never go to Odessa except July-August season. I think even June 25 will be below your expectations. Anyway I spend time in Salon Egoist (the cheapest MP in town) and strip clubs. Salon Egoist is really an optimal choice. The girl on phone made me a bit angry and I shouted at her a little bit (because of reservation issue) but all in all, I got an ok session. I guess that was the girl on phone. About 11 pm they give me two options one was a 35 years old. 7 and the other was a 24 years old 8. ON my second visit there were 5 girls. All was 7-8. It is a big pleasure to have some nice tits rubbing on your dick for just 700 grivna. It is even for worthless Turkish liras is a small money. For people paid with Euro and USD it is nothing. I also checked Standhal Restaurant many times and there were two girls (both 7). 100 USD cost.
STRIP CLUBS.
La Rouge. Ex-Zazigalka. Ex Axis. Still nice. There was a host who can speak Turkish but girls there are a bit money side. La Rouge Burlesque and one more belong to same group. They are changing girls. System is same. 500 grivna PD.

On my last day I discovered a nice one. And it is located in the same street with Burlesque. Close to old Estrelita Restaurant. In the same side of street. Bar fine 500 grivna entrance 200 grivna. Sorry I can't recall the name of it.

Office strip club is the most pumped one on the internet but I believe it is just marketing. Same price for PD. Girls are not as nice as Burlesque group.

I didn't go to a normal club so I can't tell you how was them but mostly empty. I spotted one Turkish taxi driver and he told me Park Residence is working as a night club but I never tried.

I was planning to pick up some girls on beach game but weather was too windy. Not possible for most people to swim. There were very very few people in Otrada beach. Ibiza beach was also closed. Arcadia was dead.
TINDER-HAPPEN
I spend a lot of time and matched with maybe 30 girls. I got at least 15 phone numbers and managed to meet 2 of them. All of them that you meet from this platforms are restaurant girls. They get commission from restaurants and bars.

Briefly, Odessa is a very nice place in July August but it is not in winter and the rest of year. Better to go Kyiv or Lviv or maybe Kharkiv.

DramaFree11
05-31-21, 19:57
Hi everyone, since I benefited the reports here I see an owe to all of you to report back. I was in city from 12th till 19th. Complete one week and half of it wasted honestly. I arrived on Wednesday and streets was empty. Even deribesovskaya was ten percent of the people that I see in summer. I will say in beginning; what I learned is; never go to Odessa except July-August season. I think even June 25 will be below your expectations. Anyway I spend time in Salon Egoist (the cheapest MP in town) and strip clubs. Salon Egoist is really an optimal choice. The girl on phone made me a bit angry and I shouted at her a little bit (because of reservation issue) but all in all, I got an ok session. I guess that was the girl on phone. About 11 pm they give me two options one was a 35 years old. 7 and the other was a 24 years old 8. ON my second visit there were 5 girls. All was 7-8. It is a big pleasure to have some nice tits rubbing on your dick for just 700 grivna. It is even for worthless Turkish liras is a small money. For people paid with Euro and USD it is nothing. I also checked Standhal Restaurant many times and there were two girls (both 7). 100 USD cost.
STRIP CLUBS.
La Rouge. Ex-Zazigalka. Ex Axis. Still nice. There was a host who can speak Turkish but girls there are a bit money side. La Rouge Burlesque and one more belong to same group. They are changing girls. System is same. 500 grivna PD..Great report. Kind how some claim there are no scams in Odessa. If you want to go for fun, an amazing place. For girls no way.

GDreams
06-01-21, 02:12
Great report. Kind how some claim there are no scams in Odessa. If you want to go for fun, an amazing place. For girls no way.[Deleted by Admin] Firstly no one is claiming there are no scams in Odessa they are saying go with open eyes and you can enjoy yourself. Scams are everywhere I can assure you there are plenty of Russian girls who have tried to scam me without success. Obviously with your sensitivity you are a bit more gullible than the average person. Secondly the only scam he mentioned is the restaurant scam which has been mentioned here in various guises a number of times. It has an easy fix which is what I do, tell them where you are going to meet and if they object drop them. Wow, that's complicated isn't it! Why don't you take a break from Ukraine until you actually have something relevant to add.

DramaFree11
06-01-21, 03:40
Firstly no one is claiming there are no scams in Odessa they are saying go with open eyes and you can enjoy yourself. Scams are everywhere I can assure you there are plenty of Russian girls who have tried to scam me without success. [Deleted by Admin] Secondly the only scam he mentioned is the restaurant scam which has been mentioned here in various guises a number of times. It has an easy fix which is what I do, tell them where you are going to meet and if they object drop them. Wow, that's complicated isn't it! Why don't you take a break from Ukraine until you actually have something relevant to add.

Dude there are scams everywhere in Odessa, not just restaurants.[Deleted by Admin] I like Odessa read my report.

Yes, I have been to Russia many times and I had almost no issues with scams. Much, much better then Ukraine.

Hargow20
06-03-21, 18:48
I was checking this site and a lot of the girls want 400 UAH for 30 minutes. Now this only $14. !! This does not seem correct. ??

https://relaxodessa.com/en/

VinDici
06-04-21, 08:20
I was checking this site and a lot of the girls want 400 UAH for 30 minutes. Now this only $14. !! This does not seem correct. ??It is not correct, those that have very low pricing are almost without exception salons. If you actually try to book the price will be minimum 1000 UAH depending on the girl and that will be for the most basic service.

GDreams
06-04-21, 12:43
I was checking this site and a lot of the girls want 400 UAH for 30 minutes. Now this only $14. !! This does not seem correct. ??

https://relaxodessa.com/en/Have you tried this site? https://aa.mister-x.org/prostitutki-odessy/.

Ricko85
06-10-21, 16:03
Hi,

You can check hookers prices in Odessa on this websites: relaxportal. Biz, relaxodessa.com, keksik.net.

Between 1000-3000 uah. For 1 hour. Under 25 age, the average price of nice girls is around 2000 uah. Odessa is a beautiful city.

But if rudeness and expensiveness bother you, I do not recommend you to go to Odessa in summer. But still cheaper than in Kiev.

DramaFree11
06-11-21, 15:14
Hi,

You can check hookers prices in Odessa on this websites: relaxportal. Biz, relaxodessa.com, keksik.net.

Between 1000-3000 uah. For 1 hour. Under 25 age, the average price of nice girls is around 2000 uah. Odessa is a beautiful city.

But if rudeness and expensiveness bother you, I do not recommend you to go to Odessa in summer. But still cheaper than in Kiev.This is going to be very low end girls. Short and fat. Maybe you can find someone desperate, but the chances of that happening are slim to none. Be realistic.

Ricko85
06-12-21, 14:24
This is going to be very low end girls. Short and fat. Maybe you can find someone desperate, but the chances of that happening are slim to none. Be realistic.I guess we are talking about different cities. I'm talking about the city of Odessa in Ukraine. A city where the average monthly net salary is around $400. I'll give a girl about $75 an hour and to be realistic I have to imagine fat and desperate girls. Is that so? You really must be kidding.)

Do you think this 19 year old blonde looks desperate? It's not even $60. https://relaxportal.biz/escort-61133/.

What about this slavic chick? 1200 uah for 1 hour. About 45 dollars. I checked them today. https://relaxportal.biz/escort-61133/.

Get the addresses of the apartments and visit them yourself. The best girls start work around 9 pm and are up by 12 pm. This rule applies to most brothels in Ukraine.

Ricko85
06-12-21, 16:54
I guess we are talking about different cities. I'm talking about the city of Odessa in Ukraine. A city where the average monthly net salary is around $400. I'll give a girl about $75 an hour and to be realistic I have to imagine fat and desperate girls. Is that so? You really must be kidding.)

Do you think this 19 year old blonde looks desperate? It's not even $60. https://relaxportal.biz/escort-61133/.

What about this slavic chick? 1200 uah for 1 hour. About 45 dollars. I checked them today. https://relaxportal.biz/escort-61133/.

Get the addresses of the apartments and visit them yourself. The best girls start work around 9 pm and are up by 12 pm. This rule applies to most brothels in Ukraine.Couldn't find how to fix the 2nd link. So I'm pasting it here. The price is 1200 uah.

https://relaxportal.biz/escort-61138/

Misterxxx
06-13-21, 10:01
I guess we are talking about different cities. I'm talking about the city of Odessa in Ukraine. A city where the average monthly net salary is around $400. I'll give a girl about $75 an hour and to be realistic I have to imagine fat and desperate girls. Is that so? You really must be kidding.)
Do you think this 19 year old blonde looks desperate? It's not even $60. https://relaxportal.biz/escort-61133/.
What about this slavic chick? 1200 uah for 1 hour. About 45 dollars. I checked them today. https://relaxportal.biz/escort-61133/.
Get the addresses of the apartments and visit them yourself. The best girls start work around 9 pm and are up by 12 pm. This rule applies to most brothels in Ukraine.It's the same Odessa. A few years ago you could still tow freelancers from the disco or pay 500 or 1000 uah. But the times are over.

Odessa is now more expensive for Ukrainians in the summer than a vacation in Turkey. And that with poor service. Some hotels have doubled their prices compared to the previous year. Many foreign tourists are expected this year. At the same time, beautiful Ukrainian women prefer to vacation elsewhere. Not in Odessa. Or just come for a weekend.

You cannot take the minimum earnings of a Ukrainian as a yardstick. Millions of Ukrainians work abroad. Earn good money there. Support the family at home. As in the past, many girls are no longer dependent on a foreign sponsor. IT jobs in Ukraine are paid well enough. So there are now many local men who compete with foreigners. Who do you think will be the winner?

The minimum wage in Ukraine can be $ 400. But in addition, the ticket in the Ibiza night club very often costs 200 dollars and more during the season. Per person. Minimum. Especially when stars like David Guetta perform there. Before, a ticket would have cost $ 20. Times change. Ukraine and Odessa are no longer "poor" .

DramaFree11
06-13-21, 12:56
It's the same Odessa. A few years ago you could still tow freelancers from the disco or pay 500 or 1000 uah. But the times are over.

Odessa is now more expensive for Ukrainians in the summer than a vacation in Turkey. And that with poor service. Some hotels have doubled their prices compared to the previous year. Many foreign tourists are expected this year. At the same time, beautiful Ukrainian women prefer to vacation elsewhere. Not in Odessa. Or just come for a weekend.

You cannot take the minimum earnings of a Ukrainian as a yardstick. Millions of Ukrainians work abroad. Earn good money there. Support the family at home. As in the past, many girls are no longer dependent on a foreign sponsor. IT jobs in Ukraine are paid well enough. So there are now many local men who compete with foreigners. Who do you think will be the winner?

The minimum wage in Ukraine can be $ 400. But in addition, the ticket in the Ibiza night club very often costs 200 dollars and more during the season. Per person. Minimum. Especially when stars like David Guetta perform there. Before, a ticket would have cost $ 20. Times change. Ukraine and Odessa are no longer "poor" .You know your stuff. Thank you for speaking the truth. Awesome report.

Ricko85
06-13-21, 15:40
It's the same Odessa. A few years ago you could still tow freelancers from the disco or pay 500 or 1000 uah. But the times are over.

Odessa is now more expensive for Ukrainians in the summer than a vacation in Turkey. And that with poor service. Some hotels have doubled their prices compared to the previous year. Many foreign tourists are expected this year. At the same time, beautiful Ukrainian women prefer to vacation elsewhere. Not in Odessa. Or just come for a weekend.

You cannot take the minimum earnings of a Ukrainian as a yardstick. Millions of Ukrainians work abroad. Earn good money there. Support the family at home. As in the past, many girls are no longer dependent on a foreign sponsor. IT jobs in Ukraine are paid well enough. So there are now many local men who compete with foreigners. Who do you think will be the winner?

The minimum wage in Ukraine can be $ 400. But in addition, the ticket in the Ibiza night club very often costs 200 dollars and more during the season. Per person. Minimum. Especially when stars like David Guetta perform there. Before, a ticket would have cost $ 20. Times change. Ukraine and Odessa are no longer "poor" .The minimum wage in Ukraine is not 400 dollars. About $250. I'm talking about the average salary in Odessa. You can check it at oxl. Ua site. Cashier, clerk, waiter etc. Salary for jobs varies on average from 10 000 uah to 15 000 uah. Odessa and Ukraine in general are no longer as cheap as they used to be. I also agree with this. But you can still find a beautiful girl for 1500 uah for 1 hour. If you don't believe me, you can check individual hookers.

Another point you forgot is that many girls comes to Odessa from small and poor cities in the summer. In Ukraine, there are people who earn very well with their income abroad or the development of the IT sector, and there are many young people who cannot find a job with a salary of 10000 uah per month.

If you're just hanging out in the Arkadia area, you might think that all of Odessa is full of rich tourists. But the numbers don't lie. Annual per capita income in Ukraine was around 3500 dollars. In 2020. Again, I do not deny that the prices of prostitutes in Ukraine have risen a lot in recent years. But it is still possible to reach beautiful girls at affordable prices. If you act like a tourist, you incur tourist prices. The choice is yours.

DramaFree11
06-14-21, 03:48
The minimum wage in Ukraine is not 400 dollars. About $250. I'm talking about the average salary in Odessa. You can check it at oxl. Ua site. Cashier, clerk, waiter etc. Salary for jobs varies on average from 10 000 uah to 15 000 uah. Odessa and Ukraine in general are no longer as cheap as they used to be. I also agree with this. But you can still find a beautiful girl for 1500 uah for 1 hour. If you don't believe me, you can check individual hookers.

Another point you forgot is that many girls comes to Odessa from small and poor cities in the summer. In Ukraine, there are people who earn very well with their income abroad or the development of the IT sector, and there are many young people who cannot find a job with a salary of 10000 uah per month.

If you're just hanging out in the Arkadia area, you might think that all of Odessa is full of rich tourists. But the numbers don't lie. Annual per capita income in Ukraine was around 3500 dollars. In 2020. Again, I do not deny that the prices of prostitutes in Ukraine have risen a lot in recent years. But it is still possible to reach beautiful girls at affordable prices. If you act like a tourist, you incur tourist prices. The choice is yours.Odessa us great and a lot of fun. What you are taking about will take a lot of tine, some luck and a lot of hard work. Time is money! You are leaving that out of your report. A hot girl can write her own ticket, even if she is poor.

Rob Hay
06-22-21, 18:36
Very similar thing was attempted on me.

On the table is a bottle of johny walker blue, cola, ice, hooka, cheese and meat plate, etc. And of course the charade continues. I poured a large glass of whiskey. Maybe 1/3 the bottle and watched my glass close as possible. In the meantime this chick is jerking me under the table but also trying not to do too much. I excused myself to the bathroom and called an uber (I brought my drink with me) and then when I came back to the table, I could see that my uber was outside. I texted the driver and said I will be out in 2 minutes. I ordered a bunch of shots for us and for next table. Drank my shot, said I wanted to grab a cigarette and walked outside. It was clear security was watching closely so as soon as I was maybe clear of the door, I took off, jumped in the cab and said to go. This dummy was texting me for next 24 hours saying she had to pay the bill and she will find me, blah blah. I am not sure how the scam works. I assume they get a percentage of the inflated bill. But not sure if they had to pay after I stiffed them. But, I do hope so.

This was definitely a 1 time adventure and I don't recommend trying this at all. I understand it could have ended badly. But I have to say, they tried to fuck me and they got good and fucked instead!Johnny Walker Blue! These girls think they are living it up huh. They deserved it but it quite a risk you took not to mention the police could get involved with an unpaid bill. You got some balls!!

Wgmm99
06-23-21, 14:04
Johnny Walker Blue! These girls think they are living it up huh. They deserved it but it quite a risk you took not to mention the police could get involved with an unpaid bill. You got some balls!!I read about the place they took me on tripadvisor, after the fact. This is a very typical scam they seem to run there. Some of the people on tripadvisor said that they brought in the police. Now, whether it is a real cop who is in on it or just some other guy with a badge, it would be impossible to say. However, if it were a corrupt cop, I would say the best thing to do would be to insist on being arrested. They won't beat the shit out of you if you are from western Europe or north America. I have been working in Ukraine as a photojournalist since the war began and I've had a lot of interactions with the police. Wether getting hassled for covering protests or for my own antics like drink driving and fighting, and I would really be shocked if they laid a finger on a westerner. Also, by Ukrainian law, as I understand it, they have to get you a translator. Maybe somebody can confirm this?? I have insisted on this in the past and after some back and forth was let go (for drunk and disorderly type thing) . Anyway, it is a good stall tactic and would get you out of immediate danger. Of course, if it is just a goon with a fake badge, they can easily break your face. As for balls. Maybe) also, just the right amount of amphetamines and alcohol to have a low aversion to risk and make bad, but at least decisive, decisions.

Actually this question of translator should be looked into. We should know our rights with the police.

Hestendk
06-23-21, 20:01
I read about the place they took me on tripadvisor, after the fact. This is a very typical scam they seem to run there. Some of the people on tripadvisor said that they brought in the police. Now, whether it is a real cop who is in on it or just some other guy with a badge, it would be impossible to say. However, if it were a corrupt cop, I would say the best thing to do would be to insist on being arrested. They won't beat the shit out of you if you are from western Europe or north America. I have been working in Ukraine as a photojournalist since the war began and I've had a lot of interactions with the police. Wether getting hassled for covering protests or for my own antics like drink driving and fighting, and I would really be shocked if they laid a finger on a westerner. Also, by Ukrainian law, as I understand it, they have to get you a translator. Maybe somebody can confirm this?? I have insisted on this in the past and after some back and forth was let go (for drunk and disorderly type thing) . Anyway, it is a good stall tactic and would get you out of immediate danger. Of course, if it is just a goon with a fake badge, they can easily break your face. As for balls. Maybe) also, just the right amount of amphetamines and alcohol to have a low aversion to risk and make bad, but at least decisive, decisions.

Actually this question of translator should be looked into. We should know our rights with the police.I'm also sure they will not harm a western if they are real police.

If they are fake then its another case, but again your a western so they would also be afraid who you maybe know here.

I once moved a Young Traffic PoliceGuy with an Ak47 with my 2 hands away from the front of my car because he was beeing stupied and I told him several times to move, it was a traffic stop just to get money out of me.

And I Already had my lawyer on the phone and moved him gently with to hands and told him to "Stay" or I will drive on you.

Went back and closed the trunk and noticed 2 older traffic police guys standing 50 meters away and just wawed at them and shake my head as in they need train the young guy better if he should make bribes.

They smiled back and understod he fucked up and I Drove away.

I also on another traffic stop after they was stupid where they said I crossed a line on the road, which I did because else another car would have hit me.

After 2 minutes or argument I told them either they bring in the suporvisor or I call anticorruption line.

It was very fast have a good day and goodbuy from them and they went to their car.

The number is 0800213200.

PhotoSlider
06-23-21, 22:26
I guess we are talking about different cities. I'm talking about the city of Odessa in Ukraine. A city where the average monthly net salary is around $400. I'll give a girl about $75 an hour and to be realistic I have to imagine fat and desperate girls. Is that so? You really must be kidding.)

Do you think this 19 year old blonde looks desperate? It's not even $60. https://relaxportal.biz/escort-61133/...There are averages. There are super expensive outliers at Ibiza for those that can afford and consider it worthwhile.

There are also 90-95% percentiles on both ends of the statistical distribution curves.

I surveyed, assessed and enjoyed within both. Higher end, and also cheaper girls, that arrived recently from the villages and smaller towns. The key is to get them before they start understanding how wonderful they are.

Ricko, thank you so much for showing those pix, and explaining your approach. This blonde girl looks delicious indeed.

2-3 weeks in Odessa or Kiev will help to find those rare gems. Just like with searching for diamonds it is extra work, but rewards are amazing. Only Ukrainians, Latinas and Brazilieras gave me that ultimate bliss of genuine happiness with a beautiful young woman in my arms.

And fuck the naysayers.

Kozerog
06-24-21, 10:55
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57358241

A fake wedding, and a $250,000 scam.

James had fun with Irina, but they were never alone. Irina spoke minimal English and James no Russian or Ukrainian. So as is the case with much of Odessa's "dating" scene, a translator, in this case Julia, was always there. And getting paid up to $150 (107) a day.

But intimacy, even kissing, was off-limits. Translator Julia was always there and Irina told him she didn't believe in sex before marriage.

"I thought: 'That's a very high moral standard' James says. "She'd obviously been brought up very well. ".

Such is his embarrassment that he's told no-one in the UK his story, not even his family. The BBC has verified his account of what happened using bank documents, official records, text messages, and interviews with many of those directly involved.

Ivan Buyan
06-25-21, 11:25
I definitely feel sorry for that guy, I bet he had super good intentions and is a super nice person who was willing to change the life of a broken female soul.

But c'mon.! How stupid you should be to fall for this shit? 200 k for apartment in Odessa? Can't you google estate prices?

Anyway, I wish the dude all the best in returning his money and want to tell once again that "a wife from Ukraine" is a super popular scam in Ukraine.

I first heard of it in 2009 when I chick I kinda dated got a job at one of these "brides offices" where she was getting paid for talking to naive Americans who were searching for real life and feelings in Ukraine.

How all this works:

1) They create a kind of dating site / service where they have profiles of super nice women / girls from Ukraine. Most of them are fake.

2) As a man you have to register to the site but chatting with a girl is not free of charge. 1 message is 1 dollar, when you want a picture, you pay more, when you want to come to Ukraine, you need to hire a "translator" cause your Ukrainian "bride" doesn't speak good English. When you hire the "translator" and come to Ukraine, they will try to rip you off by taking to expensive places, asking for presents for a poor Mon. / dad / brother of your "Ukrainian bride".

3) In some cases it may lead to that BBC article about Odessa.

The amount of such "offices" where they scam Americans is huge. They are almost in all big Ukrainian city and top 3 are Kyiv, Dnipro and Zaporizhya.

If you are really seeking for feelings, them learn from Russian and come to Kyiv anc try to find a wife yourself (if you really want a Ukrainian wife that bad).

If you just want good sex with a hot Slavic chick, then use OMG bot (if you are looking for AAA level), stripclub is you are ok with AA level or site like keksik or any other if you are on a tight budget or just not really picky.

Ukraine is a good place but corruption ans all kinds of scam may kill your desire to visit it.

So use common sense always.

Riina
06-25-21, 23:44
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57358241

A fake wedding, and a $250,000 scam.

James had fun with Irina, but they were never alone. Irina spoke minimal English and James no Russian or Ukrainian. So as is the case with much of Odessa's "dating" scene, a translator, in this case Julia, was always there. And getting paid up to $150 (107) a day.

But intimacy, even kissing, was off-limits. Translator Julia was always there and Irina told him she didn't believe in sex before marriage.

"I thought: 'That's a very high moral standard' James says. "She'd obviously been brought up very well. ".

Such is his embarrassment that he's told no-one in the UK his story, not even his family. The BBC has verified his account of what happened using bank documents, official records, text messages, and interviews with many of those directly involved.Fake news created to attract naive men to Ukraine. The detail in this fairy tale is so unnatural.

PhotoSlider
06-26-21, 01:30
Example of why you should rent Odesa girls vs buying Precisely! Same financial and legal considerations applied to any widely used commodity.

For example, take cars. What are the options?

1. Buy.

2. Lease.

3. Rent.

Buying means it drops $5-10 K right after it's driven out of the dealership. TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) for your own car includes registration, insurance, speeding tickets, maintenance. Average repair price increases with the age. Selling and getting a different car is a hassle. Car accidents, fatal crashes are terrible. The same with wives. Divorce, alimony, fucked up life.

Buying used? Why? There are so many fresh and shiny beautiful ones.

Lease is marketed as more attractive, but is not better at all. It's an equivalent of cohabiting girlfriend. She cockblocks other beautiful girls, that flirt with you everywhere. Expenses are also high, no matter how one calculates. 3 years ago I submitted statistical analysis which proved that while hourly rate with such a dedicated resource may seem low, the actual price per one fuck is high.

The best is either taxi or a car rental. BTW, price of the car rental tripled in the last year, just like some of the P4 P ladies. Uber, Uklon, etc are great. You may get a simple Skoda, or Tesla, or even rather cool BMW / Mercedes. Probably not Bentley though.

Hourly girls or those invited for few hours are the best. Either one, Kozerog style, perfected and reliable. Or a dynamic harem of girls coming and going. Takes time to setup in the beginning, and then some effort to maintain, but the resulting joy compensates it multi-fold.

Buying a wife? James got lucky to stay alive. Why? Because they could keep milking him. No surprise trolls here are spewing vitriol after experiencing mail bride nightmare firsthand. Some UK dudes got killed in Ukraine. It's not safe to be stupid.